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--- title: Regular Council Meetings date: 2023-05-08 source: 2023-05-08_Regular_Council_Meetings.wav --- [0:02:09, 0:02:17]: There we go. All right. All right, ladies and gentlemen. Uh this is the uh actual ceremonial portion of our eighth May. [0:02:17, 0:02:25]: Council meeting. We have several different proclamations that I will be reading this evening. The first one deals with professional municipal clerks week. [0:02:25, 0:02:32]: Whereas the office of professional municipal clerk, a time honored and vital part of local government, exists throughout the world. [0:02:33, 0:02:47]: And the Office of Professional Municipal Clerk is the oldest among public servants. And whereas the Office of Professional Municipal Clerk provides a professional link between the citizens, the local governing bodies, and agencies of government at other levels. [0:02:48, 0:02:53]: Whereas professional municipal clerks have pledged to be either mi ever mindful of their neutrality [0:02:54, 0:02:57]: and impartiality rendering equal service to all. [0:02:57, 0:03:03]: Whereas a professional municipal clerk serves as an information center on functions of local government and community. [0:03:03, 0:03:08]: Whereas professional municipal clerks continually strive to improve the administration [0:03:08, 0:03:16]: Of the affairs of the Office of Professional Municipal Clerk through participation in educational programs, seminars, workshops, and the annual meeting of their state. [0:03:17, 0:03:31]: provisional, coun county and international profit uh professional organizations, whereas in the most appropriate that they recognize for the accomplishments of the office of professional municipal clerk. Now therefore I, Anthony S. Ford, by virtue of authority, invested in me as a mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, [0:03:32, 0:03:35]: Now on behalf of city council members Elton Alexander, Delonda Barber, [0:03:35, 0:03:40]: John Blount, the KesiGantt, and the Fons of Thomas do hereby recognize a week of April thirtieth. [0:03:40, 0:03:56]: twenty twenty three through May sixth, twenty twenty three, as Professional Municipal Clerks Week, and further extend appreciation to our Professional Municipal Clerk Office team and all the professional municipal clerks for the vital services they perform and their excellent exclamation sermon. Ooh gosh. [0:03:57, 0:04:16]: Okay, a symbolator dedication to the communities they represent. It's a humdinger, right? And whereas therefore I have here unto set my hand in the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, and on the eighth day of May of the year of our Lord 2023, and I signed this along with our clerk for that's a holiday. Yes. Yes. [0:04:17, 0:04:37]: Is that correct? Mayor, I would ask that you present this to our deputy city clerk. Okay. Okay, there you go. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Fantastic. And we also have one for our other team member, Shari Lane. Okay. Thank you very much. [0:04:37, 0:04:41]: Right, did you want to hear any additional comments? [0:04:42, 0:04:49]: Thank you. All right. Yeah. You'll be fine. You want to go? Okay, I'll come on the back. [0:04:50, 0:04:57]: Shipped over this wizard? Okay. Yeah. Shipped over. Everybody should tell me I think you guys [0:05:05, 0:05:12]: Congratulations. All right. Thank you for watching. Thank you. [0:05:13, 0:05:14]: Congratulations, ladies. [0:05:15, 0:05:20]: All right. So what we have next is actually the public service recognition week. [0:05:20, 0:05:24]: And this for this proclamation. And uh the two of you, yes. [0:05:24, 0:05:25]: Okay. [0:05:26, 0:05:35]: Our two police are this is public service. You're public service. Police officers are public service. Come on, gentlemen. Randy. But isn't this oh okay. I'm sorry. [0:05:36, 0:05:37]: Excuse me? [0:05:38, 0:05:40]: I'm hard to hear. Okay. [0:05:44, 0:05:46]: Oh well he they will once this is done. [0:05:46, 0:05:47]: No problem. [0:05:47, 0:06:07]: Tim, why don't you come on up this side? Okay, there you go. Okay, there you go. Public Service Recognition Week. Whereas the concept of public service was first introduced in the U.S. Constitution in 1787. And whereas every year since 1985, the first week in May, has been set aside as Public Service Recognition Week, a time to thank a dedicated public service for. [0:06:07, 0:06:26]: From federal, state, local, and governments across the country. Whereas during Public Service Recognition Week, we express our gratitude to our nation's civil servants for their dedication to mission service stewardship. These members of our federal, state, and local government workforces deliver results for the American people, often without a claim. [0:06:26, 0:06:30]: Whereas each day millions of government employees serve their um fellow citizens [0:06:30, 0:06:50]: And we as a nation recognize the valuable role that they play in our communities. From the law enforcement officers, which we have two with among us right now, those who work in education, health care, transportation, and other public service careers, civil servants ensure government workers works for the American people. Now therefore I, Anthony S. Ford by virtual authority vested in me as the mayor of the city of the city. [0:06:50, 0:07:10]: Stockbridge, Georgia. And on behalf of City Council members Elton Alexander, Londa Barber, John Blount, Lakeisha Gann, and Fonsel Thomas, to hereby recognize May 7th to 13th, 2023 as a public service recognition week in the great city of Stockbridge. Thank you for your service to the citizens and businesses of Stockbridge. And witness thereof, I have hereunto set my hand. [0:07:10, 0:07:19]: the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the eighth day of May of the Year of Our Lord, two thousand twenty three, and I signed this along with our clerk for Nelson Holiday. [0:07:21, 0:07:41]: Come on over, gentlemen. All right. All right. Okay. There you go. And uh we got shift. Okay. And now, do you gentlemen have anything you want to say? Um we're great to be here. Glad to be here. [0:07:40, 0:07:41]: Yeah. [0:07:42, 0:07:57]: So to provide the service that we do for the citizens of Stark Bridge. And we're just happy to be here and serve every day. Okay, fantastic. I said group for that. If you shift over this way, please we don't want that. [0:08:02, 0:08:05]: We might have to double up or something like this, only two wide. [0:08:06, 0:08:15]: Yeah, yeah. Some maybe some people come across. She's got to this way. [0:08:20, 0:08:29]: Okay there we go. Come out Tom here. Come out this way. Okay, yeah, come out this way. [0:08:40, 0:08:46]: Thank you. All right. Good deal. [0:08:47, 0:08:48]: Okay. [0:09:08, 0:09:14]: So our next proclamation is going to be the Southern Crescent chapter, Natural Women of Achievement Incorporated. [0:09:14, 0:09:18]: So come on up as we uh read this for you. [0:09:20, 0:09:20]: Thank you. [0:09:38, 0:09:58]: Glad to see you, Janet. Okay. Southern Crescent chapter of National Women of Achievement Incorporated, whereas National Women of Achievement Incorporated award scholarships to assist graduating high school students with tuition, fees, or books, etc. Scholarship recipients are selected based on their academic record, student written essays, letters of recommendation, leadership skills. [0:09:58, 0:10:18]: Community service participation and extracurricular activities. Whereas the National Women of Achievement encourages youth through our scholarship program and recognize outstanding community leaders through our annual profiles of prominence. And whereas the Southern Crescent Chapter of National Women of Achievement Incorporated is charged to expand organizational program quote program. [0:10:18, 0:10:19]: Progmatic. [0:10:20, 0:10:40]: Boundaries and the National Women of Achievement incorporated as an affective service organization by utilizing the individual and collective strengths of all achievers and by partnering with businesses, educational, religious, governmental, and service communities outside the realm reams of National Women of Achievement incorporated to affect change. And whereas Dr. Darling [0:10:40, 0:11:00]: Ruffin Alexander is a charter member of the Atlanta Midtown Chapter, NWOA Incorporated, and currently chairs as parliamentarian. Dr. Darlene Ruffin Alexander was named Vice President of the Health Services, managed full continuation of care and served as a CEO, served as a volunteer administrator, and has distinction of being the first African American. [0:11:00, 0:11:19]: African American to lead the shared leadership in major head uh health care companies and recognized by her peers as a dean of long-term care. Now therefore I, Anthony S. Four, by virtue of authority, vested me as the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. And on behalf of City Council members Elton, Alexander, Londa Barber, John Blount, Lukeesia Gantt and Afonso Thomas, [0:11:19, 0:11:23]: Do hereby recognize you, Doctor Ruffin Alexander in the Southern Crescent chapter. [0:11:23, 0:11:43]: National Women of Achievement Incorporated for some surmountable laboring in the uh vineyard and years of civic leadership. In witness thereof, I have here hereunto set my hand to the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the eighth day of May, year of Alord, 2023, and I signed the proclamation along with Vanessa. [0:11:43, 0:12:03]: Holiday. Congratulations. She also received the um Lifetime Achievement Award on last Saturday. Okay. So yeah. Fantastic. Fantastic. Let's get photo. Congratulations. I think we need to scoot a little bit this way. Do you want to say any words, sir? No. [0:12:03, 0:12:10]: Okay, yeah okay. Okay. [0:12:11, 0:12:13]: Thank you. [0:12:21, 0:12:25]: Congratulations. Congratulations. [0:12:26, 0:12:28]: Uh well, whatever you'd like to do here. [0:12:38, 0:12:40]: I think it allows too so we could shoot. [0:12:52, 0:12:54]: Yeah, you have to come over here, please. [0:12:59, 0:13:02]: Okay. The microphones. Oh goodness. [0:13:03, 0:13:07]: I got a big mouth, y'all can hear me. Go right ahead, please. Okay. [0:13:07, 0:13:15]: I am Sharon Daniels Mosley. I'm the president of Southern Crescent Chapter, National Women of Achievement Incorporated. [0:13:15, 0:13:30]: A proud citizen of Stockbridge. Each year, Southern Crescent honors individuals who turn out in their stand out in their service to their community and is being noticed by others that they don't even know they're being noticed by. [0:13:31, 0:13:38]: They are busy completing their assignments without an agenda and receive in and doesn't receive any credit. [0:13:38, 0:13:42]: This is Mayor Anthony Ford. He shows up in the [0:13:42, 0:13:44]: Least likely places [0:13:44, 0:13:44]: Like [0:13:45, 0:13:46]: The community guard. [0:13:46, 0:13:49]: He's working, he takes his assignment to heart. [0:13:50, 0:13:51]: And he works with his community. [0:13:52, 0:13:53]: He is the people's mayor. [0:13:54, 0:13:55]: And we thank you. [0:13:56, 0:13:58]: For being an [0:13:58, 0:14:05]: Not just an ordinary human being but an astronaut ordinary. Thank you very much. Appreciate that. [0:14:06, 0:14:16]: Thank you. This this is what it looks like. Thank you. I appreciate that. I'll I'll put this in my office by the way. I will hold you down. [0:14:21, 0:14:41]: Congratulations. Thank you very much. Let me put this down here for right now. Okay. Okay. Mental Health Awareness Month. The next proclamation. I do not know if anybody's here for that to receive that proclamation, but I will read it. Okay? Mental health. Mental health. [0:14:41, 0:14:43]: No, no, no. [0:14:43, 0:14:47]: You have someone who's here coming foot? [0:14:49, 0:15:04]: All right. All right. So we'll go to the next one there. The next one would be at uh hopefully that individual get here shortly. The next one will be the Na uh National Asian American and Pacific Islander Heritage Islander Heritage Month. I don't know anybody here. [0:15:04, 0:15:11]: Well I'm gonna run out run out of space here in a minute. I'm gonna go run out of space in a minute. See if we keep okay. Uh [0:15:13, 0:15:15]: Yeah, I think we are a little bit ahead. Okay. [0:15:16, 0:15:26]: Can I do this one now? Well said. Okay. Small business. No, no, no, no. That's not small business. National Motorcycle Safety Awareness Month. I individuals wanna come for four four forward for that? Okay. [0:15:32, 0:15:33]: She she's coming? [0:15:36, 0:15:56]: Okay, come on, please. I don't saw you earlier. That's all right. This is a family thing. Proclamation once again, National Motorcycle Safety Awareness Month. Whereas May is uh Motorcycle Safety Awareness Month and the NHTSA reminds vehicle drivers and motorcycles. [0:15:56, 0:16:16]: Motorists that save driving and riding practices or and cooperation from all road users will help reduce the number of fatalities and injuries on our nation's highways. And whereas motorcycles are some of the most vulnerable drivers on the road by the nature of their choice of vehicle, motorcycles are smaller and easier to miss. They move quickly and can [0:16:16, 0:16:36]: Blend into the pavement so there are much higher risk of being in an accident. And whereas this May, the U.S. Department of Transportation's National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, NHTSA, is teaming up with Brock's performance to remind all motorists of motorcyclist safety and everyone's safety. Is everyone's safe? [0:16:36, 0:16:36]: Five. [0:16:36, 0:16:40]: May is Motorcycle Safety Awareness Month and at the end of May users [0:16:41, 0:16:46]: uh us uh ushers, I'm sorry, in the unofficial start of the summer and road travel season. [0:16:46, 0:16:54]: Safe riding and driving practices and cooperation from all road users will help reduce the number of fatalities and injuries on our nation's highways. [0:16:55, 0:17:15]: And where safe driving and riding practices from all road users, drivers and riders alike will help reduce the number of fatalities and injuries on our nation's highways. Motor vehicle drivers and motorcyclists should keep the following tips in mind when on the road. Observe all traffic laws and always obey the speed limit. Drive and ride. [0:17:15, 0:17:35]: Alcohol and drug-free, avoid distractions that place other road users at risk, yield to motorcyclists, especially while turning in intersections, where high visibility personnel protected gear and DOT compliant motorcycle motorcycle helmets. Now, therefore, I Anthony S. Ford, by virtue of authority best than me. [0:17:34, 0:17:36]: as a mayor city of Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:17:37, 0:17:47]: And on behalf of City Council members Elton Alexander, Ilana Barber, John Blount, Lakeese Gantt and Afonso Thomas, do hereby proclaim May 2023 as Motorcyclist Safety Awareness Month. [0:17:47, 0:18:07]: We can we call upon motorcycle riders to commit the safe driving and riding and to our role of ensuring a safe motorcycle riding environment. In witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand on the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the eighth day of May year of my Lord, two thousand and twenty three, and I signed a proclamation with my clerk for Nessa Holiday. [0:18:11, 0:18:12]: Congratulations. [0:18:12, 0:18:15]: Any words, sir, that you wanna say? [0:18:16, 0:18:20]: We appreciate it and we really need to be looked out for'cause the stock greezy is dangerous. [0:18:23, 0:18:34]: In reference to motorcyclist. [0:18:38, 0:18:39]: Yeah. [0:18:51, 0:19:08]: Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate you as well. That's mine. I need that. Okay. Huh? It's in the photos. Can you put it? I think it's in the phone. It's in a p really bright photo when I'm taking a picture of Angor. Okay. All right, sir, I'll put it over there. [0:19:11, 0:19:17]: I didn't realize I'm thinking about I appreciate it. All right, so [0:19:20, 0:19:27]: So I have National Mental Health Awareness Month. There was someone scheduled. [0:19:27, 0:19:32]: And then and then we have uh national eight business. Well I don't have I don't have a small business right here in front of me. [0:19:34, 0:19:35]: No I don't have it here. [0:19:36, 0:19:38]: I don't I don't know what's over there with you or anywhere else. [0:19:39, 0:19:40]: It's not right it's not right here. [0:19:43, 0:19:45]: It's I don't have it up right here either. [0:19:50, 0:19:52]: A phone is still down on your desk. [0:19:54, 0:20:00]: Okay. I uh I think I gave'em all to Okay, well, okay, so be it. [0:20:01, 0:20:21]: Which one is it? Uh Natural Day National Day of Prayer. I'll go I'll do this one because you're saying that there's somebody else waiting to to receive these other two. And then there's a small business ones, then there's uh the Pure Zion. I mean uh Asian American Pacific and then mental health. Those two of Asian American Pacific Islander and then uh [0:20:21, 0:20:25]: And there's someone to receive that with you. Yes, and mental health. They're both in round. [0:20:26, 0:20:41]: Okay. So right down this is a national day of prayer. Now I actually uh we'll do this again today. We did this on the uh Thursday, the fourth of May. Uh Mr. Blount uh had a that's an em that's you know this always give me thank you so much. Okay. [0:20:44, 0:20:49]: We did this the other day, so we will do this again and put it on record. Uh, for you, sir. [0:20:51, 0:21:02]: Okay. Now's the day of prayer. Whereas throughout history Americans have lifted up fervent prayers to God on behalf of our nation from the first gathering of our founding fathers, elected officials [0:21:03, 0:21:08]: Have prayed and entreated those that serve and represent to join them in prayer. [0:21:08, 0:21:17]: Whereas the National Day of Prayer that we know today was founded in 1952 and it was co-founded uh co-founded effort between the United States Congress and President Harry S. Trum Truman. [0:21:18, 0:21:25]: Whereas this year's theme prayed fervently in righteousness and and vell march veil much, excuse me. [0:21:25, 0:21:45]: Is based on the verses of James 5:16b. The effective and fervent prayer of righteousness men avails much. And whereas on National Day of Prayer, people of different faiths are invited to pray for the United States of America and its leaders. And whereas every Thursday of May on National Day of Prayer, we not only express our faith and exercise [0:21:45, 0:21:46]: [1306.8, 1312.9]: But unite our hearts and voices in personal prayer and public gatherings throughout our city and across America. [0:21:53, 0:22:06]: with fervent praise, repentance, love, and humble intercession for our neighbor and nation, holding fast to the promises throughout the Holy Scriptures that the Lord hears and avails much as he answers the faith filled prayers of his people. [0:22:06, 0:22:19]: Now therefore I, Anthony S. Ford, by virtue of authority, vested in me as the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, and on behalf of City Council members Elton Alexander, Alonda Barber, John Blount, Nikesi Gann, and Alphonso Thomas, to hereby proclaim May fourth, twenty twenty three, [0:22:19, 0:22:39]: As a national air of prayer in the great city of Stockbridge, Georgia, we invite the citizens of our beloved community to give thanks in accordance with their own faith and consciousness, consciousness, for many freedoms and blessings, spiritual guidance, mercy, and protection. A witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand to the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:22:39, 0:22:50]: I eighth May uh on the eighth day of May in the year of our Lord 2023 and I signed this along with our uh Clerk Vanessa holiday. [0:22:51, 0:22:52]: The m the mice over here. [0:22:54, 0:22:55]: Well I'm just [0:22:56, 0:23:11]: I'm just gonna speak briefly. I just think that uh I think I speak for all of my council members. I believe we all believe in prayer and I just believe that once we all come on one accord that things can be achieved and uh I think the city for recognize the National Day of Prayer. [0:23:11, 0:23:16]: Fantastic. Okay. You need to go. Okay. [0:23:17, 0:23:18]: I hear. [0:23:24, 0:23:28]: Thank you. Okay. All right. So [0:23:28, 0:23:37]: This is the most proclamations ever done in one city. I would I know that's a fac that's a fac. That's a now this you you you can have it, sir. [0:23:37, 0:23:46]: Yeah, two uh yeah, two we have two more left here. And uh actually I think we're waiting on three. Uh actually three. [0:23:48, 0:23:48]: So [0:23:49, 0:23:55]: We have our guest here for a small business, she's already here sitting at uh preachy getting peachy. [0:24:02, 0:24:11]: And I need some more water because of all the talking, right? And enunciation of words that throw me a loop, but [0:24:11, 0:24:31]: Yeah, the clerk had put out a schedule with like a time on it, so I kinda told them kind of different times that she gave on the schedule and I think small business ones were like some of them were like five forty five, five, right. [0:24:31, 0:24:34]: Writing probably turn off the back. [0:27:15, 0:27:16]: All right. [0:27:18, 0:27:26]: Mike, it's on. It's on. How are you doing, sir? Good fine. Good. Mr. Jenkins, Stark Ridge resident, mental health professional. Yes, sir. [0:27:27, 0:27:32]: Okay, we'll continue on w with our ceremonial process here for proclamation. National Mental Health Awareness Month. [0:27:33, 0:27:44]: Whereas the area of someone lives and plays a significant role in their overall health and well-being, whereas surroundings can impact if, how, and when a person needs are met, which in turn affects mental health. [0:27:44, 0:28:04]: Whereas having safe, stable, and healthy home conditions set the foundation for achieving and maintaining good mental health. Whereas with early and effective interventions, those individuals with mental health conditions can recover and lead full, productive lives. Whereas each business, school, government, agency, health care provider, organization, and citizen shares the burden of [0:28:04, 0:28:15]: burden of mental health problems and has the responsibility to promote mental health, mental wellness and support prevention efforts. Now therefore I, Anthony S. Ford, by virtual authority investing in me, as a mayor of City Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:28:15, 0:28:22]: On behalf of City Council members Elton Alexander, Ilana Barber, John Blount, Lukees again, and Alfonso Thomas do hereby proclaim [0:28:22, 0:28:40]: May twenty twenty three is Mental Health Awareness Month and call upon citizens, us citizens, government agencies, public and private institutions, businesses and schools and starboards to recommit our community to increasing awareness and understanding of mental health, the steps our citizens can take to prevent their mental health [0:28:40, 0:28:59]: and the need for appropriate and accessible services for all people with mental health conditions. And witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand on the great seal of the city Stockbridge, Georgia, on the eighth day of May of the year of our Lord, two thousand twenty three, and assigned a proclamation along with our clerk Vanessa Holliday. Sir thank you very much. Thank you. [0:29:01, 0:29:21]: Yes, sir. Uh I appreciate the recognition. Uh as an LPC. I know that there's a need for a lot of uh counseling and maybe in the city of Stockbridge we'd have some more uh resources and partner with our law enforcement union officers to make sure that uh we get like the services at the jail and in other areas and in our public schools too. I think that mental health [0:29:21, 0:29:31]: It should be as essential as physical health. So it should be a normal part of our services here at the city of Stockwells. Thank you very much. [0:29:31, 0:29:51]: Uh also the the the city of Stockbridge just implemented a mental health component good to uh r uh processing resolutions with people with mental health with the police department. Good, good, good, good. Thank you. Okay, so we need to take a picture right down here. And she's also a therapist. Outstanding. Yeah. All right. Good deal. Come on and shift in. [0:29:51, 0:29:52]: Oh too. [0:29:53, 0:29:56]: We've got some connections here. We gotta get everywhere. [0:29:56, 0:30:02]: Okay, so that's before that one? Okay. That came too far. [0:30:02, 0:30:05]: Shift up in the center, the seal. [0:30:14, 0:30:21]: Thank you. Congratulations to you, sir. Thank you for making it on the last minute. [0:30:23, 0:30:27]: Absolutely. [0:30:30, 0:30:37]: I would imagine that you may be here to receive a proclamation. Okay. Come on up, please. [0:30:39, 0:30:59]: And you can come with your family as well. They can c they're more than welcome to come. Come on over here, please. All right. This is nothing our next proclamation deals with national Asian, American and Pacific Islander. [0:30:58, 0:31:18]: Heritage Month. Whereas as Asian Americans and Pacific Islander Heritage Month is a month to celebrate and pay tribute to the contributions of Asian Pacific Americans to our American history, society, and culture. Whereas the month of May has chosen because it commemorates the immigration of first Japanese residents in the United States in 1843. In addition, May [0:31:18, 0:31:38]: Also marks the completion of the Transcontinental Railroad in 1869, which was built with the labor of mostly Chinese immigrants. And whereas Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders are leaders in all aspects of American life, including government and industry, science and medicine, the arts and armed forces, and education and sports are critical to our future success. [0:31:38, 0:31:58]: And whereas 24 million people in the United States identify as Asian, with 1.6 million identifying as native Hawaiian, Pacific Islander, or a combination. These diverse communities have enriched this country and generations. And whereas during the month of May, we encourage everyone to reflect on Asian American resilience, particularly against the alarming rise of hate crimes. [0:31:58, 0:32:05]: Have seen in recent years. Now, therefore, I, Anthony S. Ford, by virtue of authority, vested in me as the mayor city of Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:32:05, 0:32:25]: On behalf of City Council members Elton Alexander, Yolanda Barber, John Blount, Nakisa Gantt and Afonso Thomas, do hereby proclaim May 2023 as Asian American and Islander Heritage Month. We call upon the people of Stockbridge Community to learn more about the history of Asian Americans, Native Hawaiians, Pacific Islanders, and to observe this month with an appropriate program. [0:32:25, 0:32:38]: programs and activities, and witness thereof I have here unto set my hand in the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the eighth day of May of the year of our Lord, two thousand twenty three, and I signed the proclamation along with our cleric Vanessa holiday. [0:32:41, 0:32:59]: Any comments that you'd like to make? No, I really appreciate the acknowledgement of this month and appreciate being here today. Thank you. Okay. I'll stand. Appreciate it. Keep using a scent. I'll stand. Keep getting a scent. Okay. If I could say a few words, it'll be right. [0:33:00, 0:33:04]: Excuse me, as a response to the I think I'd like to say a few words. Okay, sure. [0:33:05, 0:33:09]: Okay, [0:33:16, 0:33:21]: This is on it. [0:38:46, 0:38:47]: So [0:42:08, 0:42:15]: So we are doing what we can to recognize all the great work you can do. [0:42:16, 0:42:18]: We got uh [0:42:37, 0:42:43]: I think appreciate it. Okay, now I have um I have one more last proclamation to read. [0:42:43, 0:42:51]: Oh, what's the one? [0:42:51, 0:42:55]: Last proclamation tonight will be Teachers Appreciation Week. [0:42:56, 0:43:05]: Whereas whereas teachers mold future citizens through guidance and education, whereas teachers encounter students of widely differing backgrounds. [0:43:06, 0:43:26]: Whereas our county's future depends on providing quality education to all students. Whereas teachers spend countless hours preparing lessons, elevating progress, counseling, and coaching students, and performing community service. Whereas the community recognizes and supports its teachers and educating children in the community. Now, therefore, I am Anthony Sword by Virtual Authority Vestor Maine, the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:43:26, 0:43:46]: On behalf of city council members, Elton Alzandry, Yelanda Barber, John Blount, Keysha Gantt and Afons of Thomas do hereby proclaim the week of 8th May to uh 12 May 2023 as teaching appreciation week in the great city of Stockbridge, Georgia. A witness thereof I have here unto set my hand the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the eighth day of May of the year of our Lord, 2023. [0:43:45, 0:43:49]: and I signed the proclamation along with the clerk Vanessa Holiday. [0:43:49, 0:43:52]: I'm gonna get hand with you, sir, at this point, okay? [0:43:55, 0:43:57]: You want you want any words, no? [0:43:59, 0:44:12]: Um I just wanna say that uh I have a daughter that's my oldest daughter is a school teacher. Uh she writes curriculum for uh KIP Academy and she just got promoted to assistant person. Fantastic. [0:44:14, 0:44:15]: And call us. [0:44:25, 0:44:29]: Yeah, okay. All right. [0:44:31, 0:44:36]: And it looks like we'll be starting the meeting roughly uh twelve minutes from now. [0:53:18, 0:53:18]: [3264.3, 3265.9]: [0:54:54, 0:54:55]: Mm. [0:55:15, 0:55:16]: Mm. [0:55:24, 0:55:26]: [3370.7, 3371.4]: [0:58:04, 0:58:07]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, we're gonna get started with a meaning, please. [0:58:22, 0:58:38]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, I have uh six oh one and I'd like to call the city council meeting for Monday, eighth of may twenty twenty three, to order. Invocation, uh Mr. Lantz, please. He's our economic director for city starburish. If you can, please stand. [0:58:53, 0:58:55]: Thank you for this thing. [0:59:08, 0:59:10]: This is a major C D. [0:59:10, 0:59:15]: think for everything that we'll continue to do for the C C for its rise. [0:59:19, 0:59:36]: Amen. Pledge allegiance to Pledge Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. And to the Republic for which it stands one nation, underground, individual, with liberty and justice. [0:59:37, 0:59:39]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:59:43, 0:59:46]: Port. Present. Mayor Pro Tem Barber. [0:59:46, 0:59:47]: Present. [0:59:47, 0:59:52]: Councilman Alexander. Present. Councilman Blount. Present. Councilwoman Gantt. [0:59:54, 1:00:07]: No. Thomas. Present. Mayor Ford, you have a quorum. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Uh Council, I need a motion to amend it agenda to remove item number 12. [1:00:15, 1:00:23]: Can I receive a motion to remove and that particular removing this? My understanding the purpose is that the the uh [1:00:23, 1:00:34]: The i the type the the item is not ready for uh for presentation t this evening. And it will be sometime before the end of the month, because I think it's due by the end of the month. Is that correct, Madam Clerk? That is correct, ma'am. [1:00:35, 1:00:37]: Chair Ford, I make a motion to table [1:00:37, 1:00:57]: Um item twelve council consideration to approve the city's liability insurance policy. So I second to the motion. It's oh excuse me. For tonight, yes. Okay, she said said uh to table. [1:00:57, 1:01:05]: I just wanna make sure that's actually moving it from the agenda. It is. Okay. All right. I would say it is. And our attorney, anything any different? [1:01:07, 1:01:09]: You wanna put a period of time that you wanna come back? [1:01:10, 1:01:16]: It's it's gotta come back before the end of uh before thirty one May, is my understanding. Right, put a date on it. [1:01:17, 1:01:18]: Please. [1:01:19, 1:01:19]: Yeah. [1:01:20, 1:01:20]: Okay. [1:01:21, 1:01:32]: So we're tabling it to our council work session, our May council work session. Ma'am. Yes, ma'am. The item needs to c will come back prior to May nineteenth. [1:01:32, 1:01:34]: Oh before May nineteenth. [1:01:35, 1:01:36]: Okay. [1:01:37, 1:01:39]: Okay, probably May nineteenth. [1:01:40, 1:01:43]: Mayor Ford, ask that we table this [1:01:44, 1:01:50]: And that it returned back to the council prior to May nineteenth. Certain. Okay. All in favor, please indicate. [1:01:50, 1:02:05]: Yeah. Is there a proposed date to bring it back? Yeah before before the nineteenth. We have to call a special call meeting to do this. Is that a proposed date? Uh it was it was sent out to council. I need a consensus on the date. You have responded, uh, Councilman Blount. [1:02:06, 1:02:10]: Right, I'm saying but if we have a consistent of a date, why don't we just submit it by the date? [1:02:12, 1:02:22]: Well w if the motion is due b pri prior to nineteenth, the clerk has mentioned that. It's gotta be done prior to that, so it have to be a special call meeting. Somehow we have to continue to work on what it what a consensus would be for the meeting. [1:02:23, 1:02:26]: All right. So once again the motion was made, second. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:02:26, 1:02:34]: Yeah, well thank you. It passes. Okay. Now uh council, I need a motion to accept the rest of the agenda, please. So move. Mr. Alexander, is there a second? [1:02:35, 1:02:37]: Miss Barber Secondette. All in favor, please indicate. [1:02:38, 1:02:52]: Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Okay. Well before you council, you have the admin uh adoption of uh retreat minutes for March 20th, 21st, and 22nd, and adoption of work session minutes on uh March 23rd. [1:02:52, 1:02:55]: If there are no changes, I need a motion to accept those minutes in direct, please. [1:02:56, 1:03:00]: Okay, Mr Blount? Circuit. And Mr. Alexander Arm Fay, please indicate. [1:03:00, 1:03:04]: Thank you, appreciate that. Uh Madam Clerk, do you have any public comments at all? [1:03:05, 1:03:25]: Mayor. Okay, thank you, ma'am. Okay, ladies and gentlemen, ceremonial. Uh we had several different proclamations. The matter early part of the meeting uh started at five o'clock roughly. Eight proclamations, three proclamations. And in my tenure of being a mayor, that's the that's the most proclamations we had at any one time. Uh but it's fantastic. And I it's I'm happy to know that uh we the council [1:03:25, 1:03:33]: Also identifying and showing diversity and a sense of recognizing people with many talents and many skills. [1:03:33, 1:03:36]: What we did here the proclamations for the municipal clerk week. [1:03:37, 1:03:46]: And we have a clerk's office officer here. Public service recognition. And we had our our police officers present. National Women of Achievement. We had representatives from that organization as well. [1:03:46, 1:03:50]: Mental Health Awareness Month, we recognize that an individual received that proclamation. [1:03:51, 1:03:53]: Asian American and Pacific Islander Month. [1:03:53, 1:04:13]: That's for the month of May. We had someone uh to also receive that. National Day of Prayer, which happens on an annual basis. It's an initiative that Mr. Blount has, and we did that. And we also acknowledge uh National Small Business Week as well to acknowledge our small businesses in the uh city of Stockbridge and also small businesses is actually what really makes the world go round, right? [1:04:13, 1:04:18]: And then we we honored and recognized Motorcycle Safety Awareness Month, which is the month of May as well. [1:04:19, 1:04:38]: And so we did all those earlier and uh it was great that we we did those. I I love those those proclamations ceremonial part to recognize these different individuals and just different organizations. On that note, we'll move on to presentation. FY 2024 uh budget process timeline. And uh okay [1:04:39, 1:04:42]: John Wiggins, sir, our finance director is going to brief us on that. Thank you, sir. [1:04:45, 1:04:47]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. [1:04:48, 1:04:49]: Good evening. [1:05:43, 1:05:44]: Okay. [1:05:45, 1:05:53]: Appreciate it, sir. Go right ahead. This is the City Manager FY twenty-four budget process presentation. [1:05:56, 1:05:56]: Really. [1:05:57, 1:05:58]: Yeah. [1:05:58, 1:06:00]: Go through the presentation I [1:06:00, 1:06:02]: The purpose of this meeting [1:06:02, 1:06:06]: Is get an understanding of the manager's budget philosophy. [1:06:06, 1:06:09]: Learn about the budget process per the city charter. [1:06:10, 1:06:12]: discussion on council's budget. [1:06:13, 1:06:19]: priorities and outline the FY twenty four budget milestones to adoption. [1:06:25, 1:06:27]: Start off with the strategic priorities. [1:06:29, 1:06:31]: The first one the quality of life. [1:06:32, 1:06:32]: Well [1:06:32, 1:06:38]: This right here was to create an environment that fosters an enjoyable life for all citizens and visitors. [1:06:38, 1:06:40]: So they want [1:06:41, 1:06:44]: To stay here, build businesses here and retire here. [1:06:45, 1:06:46]: Next one was economic. [1:06:47, 1:06:48]: Economic growth [1:06:49, 1:06:52]: Support activities that stimulate the local economy. [1:06:53, 1:06:57]: So да the city can provide a higher standard of living for the citizens. [1:06:58, 1:07:01]: Third one was culture and brand development. [1:07:02, 1:07:07]: Invest in and support things that positively affect the culture. [1:07:08, 1:07:13]: and brand of our staff and the city so that people will want to work and live here. [1:07:14, 1:07:17]: And the last one, fourth one, sustainability. [1:07:18, 1:07:24]: Be sustainable in how we address our assets, our services, our finances. [1:07:25, 1:07:28]: The environment and our people so we can thrive. [1:07:28, 1:07:30]: For many years to come. [1:07:33, 1:07:35]: Budget development flow chart. [1:07:41, 1:07:45]: First we start off with we we developed the budget calendar. That's what [1:07:45, 1:07:49]: the city manager has already uh put in place. Next [1:07:49, 1:07:55]: We project all funds and revenues and expenditures. We're in the process of of doing that now. [1:07:56, 1:07:58]: Department proposed expenditures. [1:08:00, 1:08:02]: Submission to the city council. [1:08:06, 1:08:09]: City Council review advertisement of budget. [1:08:11, 1:08:13]: Oh let me go back. I'm sorry. [1:08:14, 1:08:15]: I messed up there. [1:08:15, 1:08:21]: After the department proposed expenditures, we jump down the CD manager and the finance reviews. [1:08:21, 1:08:24]: uh the proposed expenditures from the department. [1:08:24, 1:08:31]: Next, we we go through changes and adjustments to the budget request, then submission to the city council. [1:08:32, 1:08:37]: From there we go from city council review and and then at the same time we advertise [1:08:37, 1:08:38]: uh the budget. [1:08:40, 1:08:42]: And then we have two public hearings. [1:08:43, 1:08:45]: And we have budget open houses. [1:08:46, 1:08:49]: And then from there we go to the adoption of the budget. [1:08:49, 1:08:54]: Which the goal is the first meeting in December twenty twenty three. [1:09:00, 1:09:02]: Wanna highlight some of the [1:09:02, 1:09:04]: Some of the city budget priorities. [1:09:05, 1:09:08]: One of them is water and sewer infrastructure improvement. [1:09:09, 1:09:11]: Improvements to the existing parks. [1:09:12, 1:09:15]: Implementation of all splash funded projects. [1:09:16, 1:09:17]: street improvements. [1:09:18, 1:09:21]: New paving and sidewalk improvement. [1:09:21, 1:09:23]: Downtown redevelopment. [1:09:24, 1:09:26]: Rehabilitation of Mirror Manual Center. [1:09:27, 1:09:29]: Funding for the Cultural Arts Center. [1:09:29, 1:09:32]: and funding for our police department. [1:09:37, 1:09:38]: Last slide. [1:09:39, 1:09:43]: We get to the FY twenty four budget process timeline. [1:09:46, 1:09:50]: May fifth, we distribute the budget worksheet, which is has been done. [1:09:51, 1:09:52]: Next [1:09:52, 1:09:53]: May tenth through the eleventh. [1:09:54, 1:09:55]: Or May tenth through the twelfth. [1:09:57, 1:09:58]: City manager has a budget retreat. [1:10:00, 1:10:00]: With staff. [1:10:01, 1:10:03]: to go over their budget worksheets. [1:10:04, 1:10:06]: And to get their presentations. [1:10:07, 1:10:08]: June second. [1:10:09, 1:10:15]: We have capital budgets are due to the CD manager and the finance officer. [1:10:15, 1:10:16]: July seventh. [1:10:17, 1:10:20]: Capital budget submission to the city council. [1:10:21, 1:10:28]: July twenty first, we have a draft budget review by manager and city and and finance officer. [1:10:30, 1:10:31]: August tenth through the eleventh. [1:10:32, 1:10:34]: Mayor and City Council budget retreat. [1:10:36, 1:10:37]: October ninth. [1:10:38, 1:10:39]: Submit final draft. [1:10:40, 1:10:42]: Budget to mayor and council. [1:10:44, 1:10:47]: Public hearing is on November the thirteenth and November the twenty eighth. [1:10:49, 1:10:51]: And then budget adoption. [1:10:51, 1:10:52]: At the city council meeting. [1:10:52, 1:10:53]: DSML. [1:11:00, 1:11:05]: That was a quick overview of the city manager's budget process. [1:11:06, 1:11:12]: Specifically going over his budget calendar uh for the upcoming t FY twenty four budget. [1:11:13, 1:11:31]: Appreciate it, uh Mr. Wiggins. It it seems as though the timeline and the process is a little is it's um it's uh a little earlier than it was last year. So I believe that's a good thing to get started on things earlier to try to project things out. That's true. Okay, so that's I think that's a good thing in that aspect. Councillor, any questions? Miss Barber, go ahead please. [1:11:31, 1:11:35]: The budget worksheet you said it was sent out May fifth? [1:11:36, 1:11:43]: Yes, it's already been sent out to the uh department head. Was it to the department head? Yes. Okay. Thank you for clarifying that. Oh no problem. [1:11:45, 1:11:46]: Council, any other questions? [1:11:47, 1:11:56]: All right, good. Thank you. Look forward to that. That means your budget uh retreat with the ca with the staff is this week. It is. Okay, fantastic. Take care. Appreciate it. [1:11:57, 1:12:07]: Old business. Council consideration to appoint Stockbridge representative to the Trans transportation advisory group. Okay, says Mr. Gardner here. Is that you back to you, Mr. Wiggins? Okay. [1:12:10, 1:12:13]: No, m Miss Brecker Carl, she's gonna take care of it. Okay, sure. No problem. [1:12:17, 1:12:21]: Good evening, Mayor Council. How are you all tonight? Right. [1:12:23, 1:12:35]: So this is an old business item as um the transportation advisory group was formed um by the Henry County Board of Commissioners in order to have representatives from all of the [1:12:35, 1:12:37]: All five commission districts. [1:12:37, 1:12:46]: The chairperson and to have a representative from all four cities to gain input and provide um input on the transportation plan. [1:12:47, 1:13:07]: Um they were able to update the transportation plan, develop a transit master plan, and prepare a tra a trails plan. And of course, the city has adopted that joint plan as of last year. So this is for a transportation advisory group appointee that was appointed initially from the [1:13:07, 1:13:27]: City of Stockbridge. His name is N.L. Gonzalez, and he is an engineer with DRMP Inc. Engineers and Surveyors Company and with a specialization in roadway transportation. And so this is just the count, the county has asked us for a reappointment, either an appointment or reappointment. [1:13:27, 1:13:31]: appointment of for this position on that board to represent the city of Stockbridge. [1:13:31, 1:13:51]: This gentleman's thing is Mr. Gonzalez, you said? Yes. NEL Gonzalez. Okay. So counsel, is there a motion to accept Mr. Gonzalez to continue on as uh as a representative on this transportation? That's the question. What's your question, sir? Yeah, talk about the process, but their meetings, and then uh obviously, certainly if the the representative should be coming to [1:13:51, 1:13:55]: to the council to talk with us to uh [1:13:56, 1:14:16]: brief us on what's going on so we can kinda have uh see what uh the interplay is. So how does that work out or as far as that person um coming back to us and then uh reviewing some of that information with us. Um well at this point I know that uh Mr Enniel Gonzalez has provided his input [1:14:16, 1:14:36]: to the tag board. But I will, if he is reappointed or if he does need to provide an overview of his specific contribution. However, the contribution is across the board for the appointees per their jurisdiction. But if it is the will of the council [1:14:36, 1:14:41]: for him to come and brief um the council periodically or his quarterly. [1:14:41, 1:14:47]: Um then I can be sure to make sure he knows that and that's can be a condition of the appointment. [1:14:47, 1:14:52]: Uh I certainly would like to see that. I'd like Rich or more members to council members to chime in. [1:14:54, 1:15:12]: Ms. uh okay, Ms. Barber says okay, that's good. You gentlemen? Okay, m okay. You have a question, Mr. Mill? Yes. Go right, please. I I guess my question still goes back to before because up until the last meeting when we talked about this, I never knew that was a transportation advisory group. [1:15:13, 1:15:16]: So now that it's formulated now to have a board. [1:15:16, 1:15:23]: My question m then was, is this person a voting member for the city of Stockbridge on this board? [1:15:24, 1:15:29]: How many people on the board and how much weight I'm just I don't know anything about the board. Okay. [1:15:29, 1:15:33]: So the the current um transportation um advisory group [1:15:34, 1:15:54]: Is a num is 10 citizens. They are appointees from all five commission districts, and then a sixth for the chairman of the board of commissioners, along with um four different folks from each jurisdiction, which are the cities. So it gives us a total of ten. And each of those folks. [1:15:54, 1:16:03]: Provide input and represent their municipality or the district that they're in for the county commissioners. [1:16:03, 1:16:07]: So when they when they vote pertaining to this board. [1:16:08, 1:16:13]: Does their boat carry weight to decisions or just carry weights of their opinion? [1:16:13, 1:16:33]: It's input. So I'll kind of give you a a quick overview. So the the goal of of the tag is to engage citizens, it's kind of like a steering committee, engage citizens of Henry County and its municipalities in the county's transportation planning process, enabling them to give input, make recommendations on transportation. [1:16:33, 1:16:53]: Planning projects and assist in the implementation of transportation plans. So, yes, each of these individuals is a voice for that jurisdiction or commission that they're a part of. Okay, so that they're a voice for their opinion toward whatever decision that's going to be made. [1:16:53, 1:17:00]: Correct, correct. The only decisions that are gonna be made would be [1:17:00, 1:17:07]: Once the input is taken in from the committee, the plan will be drafted, which it was, and it was adopted by this council. [1:17:08, 1:17:25]: Well, I I'm fine with this person, but I have to agree with Mr. Alexander. I w I don't know this person and I'd I would like to have m met this person or something at some point in time, but I'm okay with the pointy. Um if um you [1:17:26, 1:17:27]: You know this person. [1:17:27, 1:17:37]: Yes. I have spoken to this person. If they think this is good representation for the city, I have to trust trust that you all know what you all are talking about. Absolutely. Okay. [1:17:37, 1:17:48]: I'll tell you what, how about we work with the city manager and and have uh have him come uh take a visit to the council and have a presentation as well. That way you get a chance everybody gets a chance to see him and talk with him. [1:17:49, 1:18:05]: Okay. So need a motion to accept Mr. Gonzalez, there's a motion there. Yes. I make a motion to accept with the conditions mentioned before that uh the council will receive regular briefings from the transportation representative that is appointed by the city. [1:18:05, 1:18:11]: Sir, second the motion. I'll second Miss Barber second that okay. No, I'll second that if you would add quarterly. [1:18:11, 1:18:13]: Uh quarterly please. [1:18:14, 1:18:19]: Okay, so Miles Anna to Miss Barber. Uh Madam Clerk, you have that correct? [1:18:21, 1:18:41]: Okay. All in favor, please indicate. I'm sorry, you have a question, sir? Well, I had my hand up for the C. I'm sorry, Mr. S. So I will make it now. And it just really just a comment. Uh I I do think it is important uh for this representative to have some type of uh coordination [1:18:41, 1:18:45]: with this council as far as um [1:18:45, 1:19:02]: the city of Stockbridge's interest in the overall county's uh transportation issue. And I know uh we hear this all the time from citizens. What is the county doing about transportation? So transportation issues [1:19:02, 1:19:09]: are really, really important, I think, throughout the county. So I think we do need to have some type of relationship [1:19:09, 1:19:16]: with this representative so this person would sort of be able to get um [1:19:16, 1:19:19]: a feel or a position [1:19:20, 1:19:23]: uh that that we in the city of Star Gridfield so I think it's a [1:19:23, 1:19:26]: It's a coordination, if you will. [1:19:26, 1:19:29]: But I just think there needs to be a relationship. [1:19:29, 1:19:49]: with this representative. So we're sorta speaking the same language. We're all on the same page as far as the concerns that we have and our citizens have here in the city of Stockbridge. And I do understand when we when these representatives all come together collectively, they are have the interest [1:19:49, 1:19:58]: of the county uh at heart. And I just wanted to just make that statement. So I am in favor of the city council having a relationship with this representative. [1:19:58, 1:20:08]: Thank you. Yes, Miss Barber. One quick question. Ms Carter, how long is this appointment for? It is a two year term. Okay. Thank you. [1:20:09, 1:20:13]: Okay, motion was made, been seconded, so m let's try to get on favor, please indicate. [1:20:13, 1:20:19]: Thank you very much. Unanimous decision. All right. Now we open up to public hearing and we have several public hearing um [1:20:20, 1:20:30]: Uh this evening. This is the first one. Item number eight. [1:20:30, 1:20:50]: OZM dash twenty twenty three dash zero one. Consideration of amendments to official zoning map and overlay district map in accordance with the resolution and referendum annexation method voted upon during november eighth, twenty twenty two election. There are approximately twenty two O two plus minus new parcels to be added to Stockbridge City boundaries. [1:20:50, 1:20:58]: As indicated within House Bill 612, including the including, but not limited to 23 subdivision communities. [1:20:59, 1:21:11]: and parcels primary consisting of a fifteen hundred and seven plus or minus single family residential, a hundred and five combined commercial and industrial. The zoning and overlay map district will be combined as a single document. [1:21:11, 1:21:31]: The previous zoning map and overlay district was adopted March 14th of 2022. I'm assuming, Ms. Carter, you're presenting this. Okay. Go right, please. Thank you, Mayor and Council. Yes, this item before you is um the zoning map that takes into account the newly annexed properties that came in under the [1:21:31, 1:21:51]: referendum of November the 8th. Those properties became effective January 1st, 2023, and we have the map before you. We've been working with our legal team on timing and making sure that we are making the transfer of the the use of [1:21:51, 1:22:11]: The property to be compatible with the city, um kind of a one-to-one. So if the property in Henry County prior was uh commercial or a C1, a light impact commercial district, it would transfer similarly to the C1 of the city of Stockbridge. Um [1:22:11, 1:22:31]: And it would required, of course, for the plan unit developments to have to come through, even though they'll be rezoned, they'd have to go through a rezoning process in order for their master development plan to be approved by the council. So as you recall, we we brought on, you know, quite a bit of [1:22:31, 1:22:51]: Parcels. And if you look in your your the staff report, here is the the map itself. What we've tried to do is combine the zoning and the overlay districts on a single map so that as we are building the interactive digital map, it makes it very, very simple. [1:22:51, 1:22:53]: Simple and easy for residents to [1:22:53, 1:23:13]: Find out what their zoning of the property is, and also to find out if they are located in an overlay district, which requires for them to do additional development standards or uses that are prohibited, et cetera. So that is the idea of combining the two maps. So in addition to combining them, [1:23:13, 1:23:24]: We're looking to have the new map updated to include these 2,200 additional parcels that we brought in under the city boundaries. [1:23:27, 1:23:32]: All right, so new map to include then uh source this is a complete document in this time. [1:23:32, 1:23:52]: Yes. Okay. All right. And what I've put in your staff reports, just for the public, is a list of all of the parcels. It gives you the council district and the acreage, use, what have you. What it was in Henry County, what it was is being proposed. Um so this um gives you an outline of [1:23:52, 1:24:00]: Of that. And there's about maybe 30 pages or so, but I won't bore you with that. Um, just wanted to make a notation of that for your records. [1:24:00, 1:24:20]: Okay. Council, any questions? Mr. Alzheimer's, go ahead please. Yes, sir. I thank you for the presentation. Uh and I just want to clarify for the public and everybody watching, pretty much these properties are being maintained at the zoning property, uh where they were. We just need to make sure that we transfer'em to something. [1:24:20, 1:24:40]: um compatible in the city, which is it'll be like one to one. There won't be any change in something from commercial to residential or anything like that. It's not a game. This is just to make sure that we clean up our map and that they're uh zoned appropriately under our conditions. But the one thing I just uh [1:24:40, 1:25:00]: So this is being written under the new ULDC that we adopted as a city, correct? That's correct. Okay. And the public should understand this council endeavored to write a completely new zoning package for the entire city so that we would have higher standards because there were too many. [1:25:00, 1:25:20]: Things that predated us, you know, that operated in the community. Those things consisted of tire shops, pawn shops, you know, odds and end businesses, thrift shops, you know, umpteen beauty supply stores, a different business. [1:25:20, 1:25:34]: That oversaturated the city. We took it upon ourselves, vape shops, that kind of thing, to put into code and to requirement to restrict a number of those businesses. That includes dollar stores, too, correct? [1:25:34, 1:25:54]: That's correct. Dollar stores have to be now five miles apart so that we don't have one on every single corner. Understanding we did that so that we could improve the quality of what the community looks like. Because who wants to have uh you know a dollar store on every corner, who wants to have a tire shop? [1:25:54, 1:26:14]: uh on every corner or a thrift store or consignment store. They needed to be spread out and there need to be limitations put on these businesses. As part of these this program is the overlay district was passed as well. So as you go down highway 138, all of us see what it looks like. All of us do. It got [1:26:14, 1:26:26]: that way that predated many of us. But what we wanted to do was to make sure anything new that came along Highway 138 or any of these major corridors met a certain standard. [1:26:26, 1:26:46]: Truck stops would not be allowed along these corridors. Industrial uses would not be allowed along these corridors and many undesirable business, adult locations, truck stops, um, you know, heavy industrial uses, used car dealerships, those types of things that were just allowed to come into the city. [1:26:46, 1:26:50]: Without a real plan for the first time in our history. [1:26:50, 1:27:10]: We passed a development plan for the entire city so that everybody would understand the direction that we're going in. So as we move forward with it, as you will see, out here in front of City Hall, we have 10-foot multi-use paths that are going in that are similar to what you would see to the Atlanta borderline. [1:27:10, 1:27:30]: The Atlanta Beltline has 14 foot, we have 10 feet. When you build a new development in the city, it requires along these major corridors that you build a 10-foot sidewalk so that I can have a bike rider, a cyclist, or somebody to be able to walk that particular area. Those are the type of new requirements that we put in. [1:27:29, 1:27:49]: Now, if you come to some some of these requirements will be stricter than what you used to see uh in the county, whereas these uh individual businesses that we talked about that have limitations because you know uh the county does not have some of these limitations. And we did that so that we could verify [1:27:49, 1:28:09]: Or we could uh make sure that we parse out and spread out these businesses. Uh we don't need a nail salon in every development. Or we need there's a destriction on how close they can be now. All of those things matter when you're trying to attract quality businesses to the area and that you're trying to attract restaurants and shops as we build uh [1:28:09, 1:28:29]: rebuild downtown. I wanted to make that point because we have citizens here who are concerned about, you know, the way that we're going. You know, before us, you know, the city has gone a long way from a f you know a few thousand citizens. Now we have nearly thirty-six thousand, right Mayor? That is the direction that we're going in. [1:28:29, 1:28:49]: And if everything goes as Henry County now is the fastest growing county in Metro Atlanta. And we got to understand we're going to grow. We want to grow wisely and we want to grow in the right direction. But at the same time, people are moving here for the same reason that we did. And we got to make sure that we do in quality. [1:28:49, 1:29:09]: Quality is from my standpoint is the number one thing that we're looking at. The rest of the board members can speak for themselves, but in essence, we want to build a quality community. And when someone brings a development to us, we want it to be like Roswell, we want it to be like Alpharetta. If you come to me or any of us and you say, Okay, let me bring you the C package. No. [1:29:09, 1:29:29]: No, we can't do that anymore. We did that in the past. And that's why Highway 138 looks like it looks. But anything new that comes on it is gonna be Class A, like that amphitheater that we built, or everything else that goes into place. I felt like that needed to be said so people can understand the direction that we're going in and the standard that we're set. [1:29:29, 1:29:32]: Thank you. [1:29:33, 1:29:53]: Okay, this is a public hearing. So I'm gonna open up the public hearing floor in reference to this topic. So on on that note, uh if there are any comments in the public uh for this and then um there'll be a limited amount of time uh per individual. I believe that time is three minutes unless the council awards them more [1:29:53, 1:30:00]: if there are any comments one way or the other. So on my left, which should be the right hand side of the council, any f comments four. [1:30:01, 1:30:03]: In the middle. Any comments four? [1:30:05, 1:30:07]: My right side in the comments four. [1:30:07, 1:30:08]: Okay. [1:30:08, 1:30:12]: Any comments uh guest with the proposal from my left side. [1:30:12, 1:30:13]: Any comments over here? [1:30:14, 1:30:15]: And it comes in the middle. [1:30:16, 1:30:17]: The comments are right. [1:30:18, 1:30:38]: Okay, so there are no comments one way uh or the other. So I'll close that piece of that particular issue in a public hearing. And so council, I need a motion to accept this particular item. Mayor. Sir. I'd like to make a motion to move forward with bringing these properties into the city under the appropriate zoning as recommended by city staff. Okay. [1:30:37, 1:30:39]: Mr. Alexander, is there a second? [1:30:42, 1:30:43]: Do I have a second? [1:30:49, 1:30:53]: Yes sir. Yes sir. Okay, mister Mr. Thomas second that [1:30:53, 1:31:13]: I have a Any further discussion? Yeah, I have one question. Go right ahead, please. Um and I guess I could talk to you, um, Breck and and the city manager um about this because when you bring businesses in and when you transfer almost putting in the same zonings. [1:31:13, 1:31:33]: We just want to make sure that there's no circumventing of what we pertain to our ULDC codes with with these business. That's that's my biggest concern. So I guess I'll get with you all and see how we're putting the buffers in that it won't be any circumventing uh because if we say we don't want vape shop [1:31:33, 1:31:50]: shops here or hookah shop or whatever, then this business that opens up under the different um zoning but allows it, that to me circumvents the process. And so I just wanted to find out and I'll get with you all on how do we um [1:31:51, 1:32:02]: How do we eliminate or prevent that circumventing of what we want in the city to happen because it comes under another zoning but allows something else? And that's that's been my concern. [1:32:02, 1:32:22]: Right. And I think that that isn't a concern anytime there's an annexation. Um, because the the it's not a necessarily an apples to apples transfer. There are uses within the city's requirements that are a little bit more restrictive than the counties. And for a majority of our districts, the city's requirements are more restrictive. [1:32:22, 1:32:42]: Restrictive than the counties. And then we handle any new business. We took in about 362 new businesses from the annexation. And any new business that comes in, they will be regulated under the new code. If there's a new owner, any of the triggers that we manage now, as far as any [1:32:42, 1:33:02]: anyone being grandfathered in. Um and as long as is is they meet those requirements, then they will be able to remain. However, if there are issues like, you know, illicit discharge and, you know, illegal dumping, things like that, we have to we will address on a code enforcement um capacity. Okay. That's good because I'll [1:33:02, 1:33:16]: I'm looking at when you bring a when you bring those businesses in, um, because you know, you have those grandfather calls that we still have in certain areas, how does that fit into businesses coming to the city? [1:33:16, 1:33:36]: So any crush time. Right. So any business who comes in their grandfathered in until if there's a if they have six months or more of not being in operation, then they lose their grandfather status. If you have a new owner, as long as it continues in operation, it's fine. If they d are not in business for six months or more, [1:33:36, 1:33:56]: Then they are not permitted to get that same license under that former grandfathered in status. They have to meet the current code. And that's how we over time try to, you know, weed out uses that aren't allowed currently per R code, versus telling them, hey, you've got six months to move or leave. [1:33:56, 1:34:00]: [5641.1, 5649.2]: the the um ability to develop their property and to operate under a business um until such time that changes. [1:34:09, 1:34:10]: Okay. [1:34:11, 1:34:13]: Any other questions from the council? [1:34:13, 1:34:21]: I do. I do. Ms. Carver. Um looking at the list of parcels, it has a column for district. [1:34:22, 1:34:25]: And it lists a district number twelve. [1:34:25, 1:34:38]: What district is that? Is that a state district? So there's a land there's a landlot and there's a district for the city overall that the tax assessors keeps track of. And then we separately have the council districts. [1:34:38, 1:34:40]: Gotcha. Thank you. Absolutely. [1:34:40, 1:34:42]: You know the questions counsel? [1:34:42, 1:34:45]: And if not any motion to Mail forward. Yes sir. Go ahead. [1:34:46, 1:34:47]: Uh Mrs. Carter, thank you. [1:34:49, 1:34:58]: Just based on the concern that I think Mr. Blount just spoke to and the comments from Councilman Alexander. [1:34:59, 1:35:03]: And and what I try to educate myself on is the [1:35:04, 1:35:05]: Comprehensive [1:35:06, 1:35:07]: Plan. [1:35:07, 1:35:09]: That includes [1:35:09, 1:35:29]: all of those entities where the city of Stockbridge as a municipality uh began to be uh proactive as far as land use plans, strategic plans. So how do we how do we grow? How do we build upon the great city of Starkbridge? [1:35:29, 1:35:31]: So I think when you [1:35:32, 1:35:51]: are able to look at all of these things, then I think we begin to see the picture of how we smart growth uh this area. And so I know when we alluded to the uh UDC, which is somewhat of a of a a of a guardrail, so can you just speak to [1:35:52, 1:35:54]: the collective or the comprehensive [1:35:55, 1:35:56]: Package. [1:35:56, 1:35:58]: Та а за муніципаліті [1:35:58, 1:36:02]: That we put into place to make sure that [1:36:02, 1:36:05]: We do the best we can do to make sure that [1:36:05, 1:36:25]: As our city grows, we have the guardrails in place to make sure that we're sort of being smart about how we allow things to come in. And I know we're here tonight. I know we have citizens here tonight. Probably want to get into uh some zoning issues. So all of these things. [1:36:25, 1:36:45]: Come into effect, you know, the zoning, the variance, all of these kind of requests. So I think we have to sort of have a better understanding of all of that so we can make a better decision on how we push forward uh in growing, you know, this great city. So can you just briefly just [1:36:45, 1:36:51]: sort of speak to that overall dynamic, if you will, of how we sort of [1:36:52, 1:36:57]: push forward and try to grow this great city. Sure, absolutely. Um, great point. So [1:36:58, 1:37:13]: I was here two weeks ago and we talked about our comprehensive plan update. Our comprehensive plan is our overarching twenty-five year um, you know, kind of bird's eye level of how we are to develop the city of Stockbridge. [1:37:13, 1:37:16]: The zoning code, the zoning map. [1:37:16, 1:37:19]: All of those are tools to implement. [1:37:20, 1:37:23]: Our future land use plan and our comprehensive plan. [1:37:23, 1:37:32]: So one of the great things about this process is as we are, you know, for the council to approve the zoning map and overlay district map tonight. [1:37:33, 1:37:53]: We also go back and we're gonna look at our comprehensive plan um document, which is a map, which has all these different elements, what we look at for land use, which includes zoning, we look at housing, we look at economic development, natural resources, and there are several others, transportation. And what we do is we look at what are our [1:37:53, 1:38:03]: are s are we look at a SWOT analysis. We look at the strengths, we look at the weaknesses, and we look at our opportunities and threats to make sure that we are addressing [1:38:03, 1:38:23]: What we want development to be based on where we are today? How are we progressing? What are the trends? Do we want to see more things? Do we want making sure we have those 10-foot-wide trails on all those major roads? Do we want to see, you know, a water feature, you know, throughout the city? What have you? There are lots of different things that we'll address. [1:38:23, 1:38:24]: Dress. [1:38:25, 1:38:39]: But these this is a tool in order to implement that comprehensive overarching plan. And we're going through that update process over the next several months and we'll bring that back to you guys in October. So it all ties in together. [1:38:40, 1:38:42]: Thank you, Maryland. Okay, absolutely. All right. [1:38:43, 1:38:47]: Any other questions? If if not, I need a motion to real quick. Yes, sir. [1:38:48, 1:38:53]: Um, I don't wanna mess with anybody's intelligence here and so when because when I came on this council [1:38:54, 1:39:14]: I I wasn't familiar with a lot of acronyms. So I would hope that when we say acronyms we just say what it is for the sake of the when we say UDC is that means unified development codes meaning to hold so if we just you know, I I I didn't know what ac these acronyms were. So I just wanna make sure they they know when we say UDC and when we say certain things that we [1:39:14, 1:39:27]: kind of let them know what that is. Absolutely. And um Councilman Alexander noted that earlier. So I'm sorry I did just throw the acronym out. But um yes, it is the unified development code that is our UDC, which helps us govern [1:39:28, 1:39:40]: you know, development standards, how things need to be built, what needs to be where, how many amenities you should have, street um infrastructure, road infrastructure, sidewalks and the like. [1:39:40, 1:39:41]: Thank you. [1:39:41, 1:39:51]: All right, now uh I would imagine that's probably all the questions from the council. So I need a motion, uh we all need a motion. I need a motion to accept it. Second, okay. [1:39:52, 1:39:52]: Thank you. [1:39:53, 1:39:55]: So all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:39:55, 1:39:59]: Announced decisions. All right, thank you very much. Thank you. For all. All right. [1:40:01, 1:40:21]: A lot of conversation. Okay, item number nine. Comprehensive plan amendment KCP 2022-06. Consideration of a comprehensive plan amendment request to assign the future land use designating the property located at 576 Davis Road, parcel S05. [1:40:21, 1:40:41]: Five-01002000 to high density residential to allow for construction of a town home development. Applicant Forrester Real Estate Group, USA Incorporated Agent Alex Brock of Smith, Gramble and Russell LLP. Properties located at Landlot 91. [1:40:40, 1:40:48]: or District 12. It contains 27.635 acres. Miss Reca, please. [1:40:48, 1:40:56]: I'm sorry. Mayor Ford. Yes, ma'am. Before he begins, may I ask that Miss Carter, this um [1:40:58, 1:41:00]: The overlay district map. [1:41:00, 1:41:04]: When I asked about the district numbers that's on this table here. [1:41:05, 1:41:06]: It references district twelve. [1:41:07, 1:41:08]: Can you please? [1:41:09, 1:41:10]: Add another column. [1:41:10, 1:41:12]: I am most interested in. [1:41:12, 1:41:21]: City Council districts, and I need to see for each of these parcels how many of these are specifically in each of the council districts. [1:41:22, 1:41:23]: For this [1:41:23, 1:41:25]: Thank you for this item. [1:41:25, 1:41:27]: For this public hearing. [1:41:27, 1:41:31]: Um for the compli comprehensive plan amendment case. [1:41:31, 1:41:32]: You're still referencing [1:41:33, 1:41:34]: District twelve. [1:41:35, 1:41:36]: For the record. [1:41:36, 1:41:37]: Madam Clerk. [1:41:38, 1:41:40]: In reference to city council district. [1:41:40, 1:41:42]: It is in city council district. [1:41:43, 1:41:43]: four. [1:41:44, 1:41:47]: I want that to be clear and on record. [1:41:48, 1:42:03]: If I if I may, Council Mayor Pro Tem. So there are two districts, two types of districts. There is the landlot and district for overall for the county. So this, this is in landlord. [1:42:05, 1:42:13]: This is Land Lot 91, District 12. However, the council district is specified specifically as district four. [1:42:14, 1:42:33]: And that is what should be referenced on our city council agenda meeting. Mm-hmm. Okay. Well, I can make sure that that's clarified if there are any any uh in all other documents going forward. You can still reference the tax assessors, district numbers. We will we'll add council district going forward. I appreciate it. Thank you. [1:42:34, 1:42:54]: I assume that that request from Miss Barber, that the rest of council is good with that particular. That is my it is my district. And is what I'd like to see be transparent to the people in the community so that they are not confused about what this is and what area it represents. That's all. [1:42:53, 1:43:10]: Stand by the re if you're asking for that, that means that would mean I would think that that would be the same thing for all the other council districts. That's why I'm asking that. Okay? I want to make sure that the rest of the council districts uh representatives will want the same thing. Okay. That's what I want to try to figure out. Okay. [1:43:10, 1:43:30]: I would add that this is not unusual. It is what they do at every county meeting. This is a part of the legal description for the property. Understand. You have a lot and you have a district when you l as it's part of the legal description. So adding this particular um district would be appropriate, certainly. Okay. [1:43:30, 1:43:50]: uh for the county to un for the city to citizens to understand. But understand this is a pro if you go to any of the Henry County zonings, they have they do have what you suggested. They have the district number on there and they do have uh the the um the county tax assessors district. It'll say district twelve, district seven, whatever it may be. [1:43:49, 1:44:09]: And it does follow along those columns, but it is indicated which commissioner it's referenced to. Okay, thank you, Council. I just want to make sure that that the rest of the council is well aware and would want the same type of requirement. What I thought to forgot to mention earlier, uh as I read out the item nine right below it says to be presented by the county development staff, the planning commission approved uh this request. [1:44:09, 1:44:18]: With amended conditions at the April 27, 2023 meeting. Okay, please go ahead. All right. Thank you, Mayor. [1:44:22, 1:44:42]: I'll I'll begin with the um with the applicant case facts. The applicant is Forrester Real Estate Group. The applicant's request, once again, repeating what the mayor said, assign the future land use designation of property to high density residential to allow for the development of a townhouse community with 170 units. The number of proposed units per acre would be [1:44:42, 1:45:02]: 6.15. The address of the property is 576 Davis Road and it's located in Council District 4. The number of acres the subject property represents is 27.635 acres. The property characteristics, property has three single-family residences and a detached garage. [1:45:02, 1:45:14]: In addition, it is a long wooded and narrow lot that slopes downwards to the north where the stream and buffer are located. The current city land use designation is Low Density Residential. [1:45:18, 1:45:36]: The future land use designation maps designate the subject property as low density residential. However, the current future land use is incompatible with the requested rezoning to MFR. Therefore, the applicant is seeking a comprehensive plan amendment to assign the future land use designation to high density residential. [1:45:41, 1:45:47]: On the screen now is the future land use map of the area surrounding five seventy six Davis Road. [1:45:50, 1:46:10]: The surrounding land use densities or the property, the density of the properties that surround the subject property. To the north, you got single family detached homes located along Valley Hill Road. And the land use designation of that property is low density residential. To the south, [1:46:10, 1:46:21]: You got Stockbridge Estates Mobile Home Park, and it is medium density residential. To the east, you have single-family detached homes along Davis Road, Century Oaks. [1:46:22, 1:46:36]: And the density of of th of that property is medium density residential. And to the west you got the Pine Hills Estates Mobile Home Park, Wildwood Estates Subdivision, and the density of that is low density and medium density residential. [1:46:43, 1:47:03]: Can I ask you a question? I didn't think we have medium density in our is that in the Henry County zone and planned is in our zone in plant. I thought we s kind of skipped from one to the other one and that was our density rates do uh it's kind of skewed a little bit. Uh currently uh the low density is one point five to two units per acre. The medium density is two to three point six. [1:47:03, 1:47:23]: And then we skip from three point six to five point nine, and we skip that and we go to high density, which is six sixteen units. My question is, when you say medium density, what is what number is that? Medium density is is two for these properties for those two mobile home parts. Uh the between two to three point six units per acre. [1:47:23, 1:47:25]: Okay. Yes. [1:47:26, 1:47:29]: Oh yeah, please please continue. [1:47:30, 1:47:50]: Okay, here's another um chart indicating the densities of of the surrounding properties. Pine Hills Estate Mobile Home Park. They have 91 units and their density is 2.5 units per acre. You got Century Oaks Duplex Subdivision. They have 29 units and their density rate is 0.88 units per acre. You got metal. [1:47:50, 1:48:05]: Ridge, they have 70 units and their density rate is 1.3 units per acre. You got Stockbridge, the States Mobile Home Park, they have 156 units, and their density rate is 4 units per acre, and that's still a medium. [1:48:05, 1:48:25]: And you have Wildwood Estate Subdivision, they have 233 units with a density rate of 3.22 units per acre, and that is considered a medium. You have Springwood Valley, they have 22 units at a density rate of 0.8835 units per acre. And you have Big Oak Villas. [1:48:25, 1:48:31]: They have 34 units on nine with a density rate of nine units per acre. [1:48:31, 1:48:33]: And the proposed Davis Home [1:48:34, 1:48:41]: Project has a hund has a proposed number of 170 units with a density rate of six units per acre, a little over six units per acre. [1:48:43, 1:48:46]: Here is the uh on the screen now we have a [1:48:48, 1:48:53]: A screenshot of the uh concept plan or the site plan, how it's laid out. [1:48:59, 1:49:01]: Uh staff analysis. [1:49:02, 1:49:22]: The the requested well consistent consistency with the comprehensive plan. The requested comp plan amendment of the subject property from low density to high density is necessary because the current land use does not allow the development of town homes. Furthermore, the proposed densities would not be compatible with the required density for the current land use. [1:49:22, 1:49:42]: Designation. Relation to the zoning of the property, the property requested zoning district is not compatible with the list of permitted zoning districts that are found in the comprehensive plan. To allow for the proposed zoning, the applicant has request requested that the property be rezoned to MFR to the MFR district to allow the townhomes to be built. [1:49:42, 1:50:02]: The rezoning will be heard concurrently with this case. After I finish this case right here, the rezoning is coming up next. The suitability of the site's location. The proposed high-density land use designation will be compatible with the high-density land use designation of big oaks villas located to the east. Furthermore, [1:50:01, 1:50:21]: Page 45 of the Stockbridge Comprehensive Plan provides a list of permitted uses that are compatible with the land use designation, which includes MFR multifamily residential, which the applicant is seeking. Maintaining the current land use designation. Maintaining the current land use designation would be allowable for the applicant to develop. [1:50:21, 1:50:27]: The would not be allowable for the applicant to develop the townhomes due to the proximity from an existing [1:50:29, 1:50:49]: Town home community located within the area. Furthermore, it is unlikely the subject property will be developed with the type of uses that are permitted by the existing low density residential land use. Um the property would never be developed as a commercial uh use because of the frontage and where it's located, and it's not located on the [1:50:49, 1:51:05]: major therapy and also it would not be uh feasible for the property for the subject property to be developed as a single family residential detached because you couldn't get enough units on the property for it to be economically viable. So as a result [1:51:05, 1:51:25]: Staff recommends approval of the requested change in the property's future land use designation from low density residential to high density residential. And one last note, we're currently in the process of updating the comprehensive plan and and due to the low ranges of our density rates. [1:51:25, 1:51:45]: Like low density is 1.2 to 2 units per acre, medium is 2 to 3.6 units per acre, and uh high density is 6 to 16 units per acre. Uh we feel like these density ranges are not compatible with what the city of Stockbridge is transforming into. It's becoming more of an urbanization. [1:51:44, 1:52:04]: area. So we feel that these current density rates are for more of a suburban type community. So there's chances are once we go to a ther go through a thorough analysis of the current ranges and uh while we're undergoing the process of uh updating the um the comp plan. [1:52:04, 1:52:08]: That this area could be slated to be medium density in the future. [1:52:10, 1:52:11]: Thank you. Questions, Council? [1:52:13, 1:52:14]: Yeah, cool so. [1:52:15, 1:52:21]: Why Miss Barber? As the district representative of City Council District Four. [1:52:22, 1:52:24]: I have some concerns. [1:52:24, 1:52:26]: A lot of concern concerns actually. [1:52:26, 1:52:27]: You just spoke of wine. [1:52:28, 1:52:31]: That there's gonna be updates to our comprehensive plan. [1:52:33, 1:52:35]: I have spoken with the developer on [1:52:35, 1:52:36]: A few occasions. [1:52:37, 1:52:39]: Recently I asked that they delayed. [1:52:40, 1:52:41]: [6761.5, 6762.7]: [1:52:42, 1:52:43]: of their proposal. [1:52:44, 1:52:49]: Now that I know that we're gonna be updating the comprehensive plan soon. [1:52:49, 1:52:52]: I suggest that they bring it back at a later time. [1:52:52, 1:52:58]: Uh that could be s six to seven or eight months away, council member. I'm sorry. [1:52:58, 1:53:00]: That could be six to eight months away. [1:53:00, 1:53:02]: Okay. [1:53:02, 1:53:04]: I don't object to that. [1:53:04, 1:53:04]: Okay. [1:53:05, 1:53:07]: Um that's all. [1:53:08, 1:53:10]: Mr. Point. [1:53:10, 1:53:30]: Yeah, let me let me kind of understand where we're going to. And I need everybody to understand something. This is not the end of the road, and these are tough decisions that we face on an ongoing basis. Please understand, as I said, Henry County is one of the fastest growing counties in Metro Atlanta. And trust me. [1:53:30, 1:53:41]: This is what happens and what folks don't understand about the zoning process. If we say no tonight and they take it to court and they sue and they win, they could bill whatever they want. [1:53:42, 1:54:02]: This is the they they could build whatever they want. If they take it to court and the judge decides, the judge makes the decided. This opportunity, delaying it, whatever we do, gives us an opportunity to have input to bring down the number of units, which the number of units have been brought down from 250 to [1:54:02, 1:54:15]: I think what 175? 170. 170. So we were by working with Count Mempro Tim Barber in the city, the number of residential units have been brought down from two fifty to one seventy. But [1:54:16, 1:54:18]: Say we turned it down tonight. [1:54:18, 1:54:38]: And the developer and the property owner in Georgia has all the rights they do. And that's what tires our hand most of the time, because the property rights says the property owner has a right to sell the property for the highest and best use. And what that does to us is it puts us in a position where we got big old villas down the street. [1:54:38, 1:54:58]: Street that has nine units per acre, someone in the city has already set the precedent that this is allowable in that area already. So what generally happens to us, we got a mobile home park next door that has four or five, which is in that same range. But what generally happens to us is we're in a position, the staff has made a [1:54:58, 1:55:18]: A recommendation of approval based on what the future land use map says to us. But in order to allow this council to work on the project and to continue to work on District 4 and to do what's necessary or to have the council member entertain that. And I would have uh the the legal to weigh on this. [1:55:18, 1:55:38]: As well, if Quentin is in here as well. The county is under these same pressures. That's why you keep seeing over and over again where these multifamily developments keep coming up to the county. And the county is approving them. Why do they keep proving them? Because in the end, all the laws state, again, most of the laws are only [1:55:38, 1:55:53]: on the side of the property owners. What has happened to us over and over again is property l large property owners in the area say, I'm moving, I'm ready to cash in with rates being so high, they can make a fortune. They sell to the developer, [1:55:53, 1:56:03]: then that then we get to a rezoning. We just haven't had many of these. McDonough's had a gazillion. The county has had so many more to go along with it. [1:56:03, 1:56:09]: And you listen to their particular meetings and you tune into their meetings and they share the same concerns with us. [1:56:09, 1:56:29]: Because the developers come in when you s when you tell them no, they hand you the sheet that says these are our our rights, and they say, you know what, we reserve the right to sue to reverse that decision. So no matter what we do tonight, that decision can be overturned by a court of law. And understand that. So in our position, uh in the [1:56:29, 1:56:49]: county's position that they have taken going through this is to try to work with it if we can. If it's just impossible, there's nothing that we can do to to resolve it. The residents are 100% against it and there's nothing that we can do to try to work it out between both parties. Sometimes we do reserve the right to do that, but understanding that the [1:56:49, 1:56:51]: The next this is not the end of the road. [1:56:52, 1:56:58]: And if it's not the end of the road, and I think you'll say that too, Mr. Anderson, is that this is not end of the road, is it? [1:56:58, 1:57:00]: No, sir, it's not. [1:57:00, 1:57:20]: Okay, and in these cases do go to a judge and when they go to a judge, the judge makes the decision, correct? He says, Well, this is what uh and the judge doesn't say, Well, you could have this many units per acre or whatever, they just say they have a right to sell this property and the and for the rezoning, correct? Yes, sir. [1:57:20, 1:57:25]: And staff has concluded that that this is the highest and best use of that particular land. [1:57:25, 1:57:37]: Okay, again, with no decision has been made by us, we're gonna certainly sit here and listen to every resident to say what you gotta understand. And we hear a lot of this and I'm gonna continue on, is that [1:57:37, 1:57:50]: Every we hear it every zoning here and they hear it at the county too. The state legislature is where we need to address a lot of these issues at. We hear people come in and they say traffic, traffic, traffic. [1:57:50, 1:57:52]: Under state law. [1:57:52, 1:57:58]: We cannot legally deny a development based on traffic. It might seem silly to you. [1:57:59, 1:58:19]: But if we did, that's a ground for reversal of the decision, because we said traffic. We hear it over and over again. Well the schools are overcrowded. We're bringing in all these developments. If you deny a development based on schools, they sue. That's ground for a term because the courts have said in Georgia, because the laws state what they state. [1:58:18, 1:58:24]: is that if you deny it based on traffic, the traffic is our responsibility. [1:58:25, 1:58:45]: Ours to determine our job is to widen the roads and to do what's necessary. The schools are the responsibility of the school board, which has nearly a billion dollar budget if you count T splot E splot and what they doing. So again and again that has come back to court and this has been what the the judgment is. [1:58:45, 1:59:05]: And I'm not saying what decision we're gonna make up here, but you gotta understand this is not the end of the road. This is part of the process which we listen to, which each resident has to say, and then we have to make a decision based on what's best for the community and what's legally sound in the decision. [1:59:05, 1:59:25]: That needs to be made. But trust and believe I'm telling you, this is not the end of the road. We're do going through the process and whatever we do, decision will be made to move forward or deny. We we this is not the end of the road. Thank you. No problem. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. Yeah, thank you, Mayor. Um one of the things that for me [1:59:25, 1:59:28]: As a council member elected by the citizens of Stockbridge. [1:59:29, 1:59:32]: Um, I don't have any control of the courts. [1:59:33, 1:59:53]: But now that we go on to districts, one of the things we have to do is look at how we can affect our districts. Uh but that's by listening to the citizens, that's by um talking to the developers, that's by looking in in the area what's best benefits your district and what doesn't. Um I can't I I don't make decisions up here pertaining to what the court may. [1:59:52, 2:00:01]: Or may not say, because we weren't we weren't elected as citizens to determine what we say or do pertain to what a court may say or do. [2:00:01, 2:00:07]: Um one of the things that um I have to respect out of either one of my colleagues districts [2:00:07, 2:00:11]: If they have concerns, then we have to respect those concerns for their districts. [2:00:11, 2:00:16]: And that's where I am. I'm uh so if there's a if there's more um [2:00:16, 2:00:30]: behind the scenes negotiation or talking pertaining to that district uh with the developer and as you said that that uh the comprehensive plan could uh in the future be uh brought in and and can [2:00:30, 2:00:44]: be low low density, uh media you know uh uh uh medium density, um th then so be it. But one of the things I have to do, because I would not want one council member coming to my district and telling me [2:00:45, 2:01:03]: how to develop my district when it comes to residential or commercial and what's needed and what's not needed when the citizens in my district are the ones that put me in office. So one of the things I have to do is listen to my colleagues and their concerns about their districts. And that's why I lay my decision. [2:01:04, 2:01:07]: Any other comments? Yes. Go right, please. [2:01:09, 2:01:29]: I said so there's no words being twisted. I did never say that you should ignore the district council member. Count Mayor Pro Tem Barber is the district person. I have said on Zooms that we've talked and what have you that listen, this is her district. She'll be one making the final decision. And in essence, certain [2:01:29, 2:01:49]: Certainly, no decision will ever be made based on what the courts do. I'm just trying to inform the citizens of the process and to understand. No matter what we do tonight, it may not be the end of the road. So, understanding that particular process, make sure you state when you come up here again, you gotta understand the rules. [2:01:49, 2:02:09]: rules and the rules say we can't deny based on schools or traffic. But we hear that a lot. So understanding that is very key to uh you know when you're talking, you're understanding that. Because we hear that a lot. But understanding the rules, sometimes the rules are not explained to folks and they don't really understand the rules or what determines [2:02:09, 2:02:29]: Determines what goes on. Surely we live in the community, we certainly think about schools and we do everything that we can. As a matter of fact, we secured seven hundred fifty million dollars countywide to widen almost every major road in Henry County to deal with that. And the school board has nearly a billion dollar budget to kind of deal with the schools. So that's [2:02:29, 2:02:40]: their responsibility, but certainly we want to hear you out and understand what your concerns are and defer to the district uh council member as I would expect them to defer to me as well. Thanks. [2:02:41, 2:02:44]: Um Ms. One. Yeah, go ahead, please. [2:02:44, 2:03:04]: Um Mr. Alexander, one of the things I I'm I'm not insinuating what you say and what you believe. Um that's what you believe. And I'm not um com being combative or anything but pertaining to what you believe, but and I agree with you, we cannot deny development because of schools and roads. Um [2:03:04, 2:03:16]: Uh, in my opinion, uh when you talk about a lot of high a lot of high density development versus uh infrastructure plan not coming to fruition first, you're gonna have problems. That's a that's a given. [2:03:17, 2:03:21]: And so when it comes to but when it comes to any developer [2:03:21, 2:03:27]: that wants to bring any type of development in your community, whether it's high density, medium density or low density. [2:03:28, 2:03:48]: Those negotiation, those uh and and obviously something's been had. Uh that they're they're talking now. So I have to let that council person in that dist district take the league. And that's that's that's what I'm saying. I'm not it's no beliterate anybody thought process or how we should go about doing anything. I'm just talking about just [2:03:48, 2:03:49]: John Blount. [2:03:50, 2:03:59]: All right, thank you. How about Forrester and or Alex Brock of uh did uh do you all wanna come forward and have any comments? Come on forward, sir, and if you have any comments to the council at all. [2:04:03, 2:04:23]: And I'm not sure, so to give your name because I'm not sure who exactly who you are, because I didn't meet you earlier. Yes, good evening. My name's Alex Brock with Smith Gambrell Russell. I'm here on behalf of the applicant uh Four Star Real Estate Group. Uh joining me tonight, I have Jack Burke and Ren uh Giazzoni with Fourstar. Um before I start my presentation, I do have one handout I'd like to uh give a comment. [2:04:23, 2:04:26]: Okay, sure. Uh [2:04:38, 2:04:55]: And if I could, I'd like to use staff slides. I have Okay, sure. Did the other gentleman want to join you at the mic? Uh did you want to come up, sir, at all? Any you th two gentlemen? Or are you just comfortable right where you are? Okay. If there's technical questions, I may ask Mr. Burke and Mr. Gisani to step up. Okay, thank you. [2:04:56, 2:05:15]: Um we are here tonight for three applications, comprehensive plan and rezoning and a variance. Uh it's my understanding we are going to take those one at a time. Uh so I'll start with the comprehensive plan. Um before we get into what we are proposing, I just wanted to give a brief overview of uh [2:05:15, 2:05:35]: The of how we've gotten here tonight, because this has been a lengthy journey for us. Uh, we initially started conversations with the city back last August, last July, last August, before we submitted anything for rezoning. Uh at that time, we initially proposed 252 townhome units uh on the property. That would have been a density of 9.11 units per [2:05:35, 2:05:55]: Per acre. By the time we submitted for rezoning in October, we had lowered that to 235 units, which would have been a density of 8.5 units per acre. Then with discussions with planning staff and other city officials, we went back and revisited the design to lower that even further. [2:05:55, 2:06:10]: Further, and we've dropped it down to the current plan that's before tonight of 170 units, uh, which is approxim uh which is a density of six point one eight units per acre. Uh this is only two-thirds of what we initially proposed. Uh [2:06:11, 2:06:31]: In uh overall reduction of eighty-two units. Uh we've also made a number of other changes to the plan through our conversations with the city, uh including improvements to the amenity package. We initially were proposing just a open pavilion. Uh we've converted that to a a formal clubhouse. Uh we are now including ten-foot sidewalks along Davis Street. [2:06:31, 2:06:51]: Drive. It should be noted that there are existing sidewalks on the southern right-of-way of Davis Drive, but we are proposing the full 10-foot sidewalks along the northern portion of the front edge of our property. We've also increased guest parking throughout, which I'll get into a little bit later. And a few other few other items. [2:06:51, 2:07:11]: Items which I'll get through through the course of my presentation. But to go to the comp plan request directly, we have requested a rezoning for multifamily residential in a density of 6.18 units per acre. The current land use is low density residential, which does not allow townhouse. [2:07:11, 2:07:14]: home development nor the six point one eight units per acre. [2:07:15, 2:07:35]: As uh Mr. Anderson pointed out earlier, there's a little bit of a quirk in the city's current comprehensive plan. The medium density uh land use allows for a density of two to three point six units per acre, and then there's a gap until you get to six units per acre. Uh, high density is six to sixteen units per acre. Uh so we [2:07:35, 2:07:41]: We are going with a high density residential'cause we are right at uh six point a little over six units per acre. [2:07:41, 2:08:01]: Uh and I also like to note that we are not trying to max out the density on the property. Uh we have lowered it to 6.18 units per acre, which is the low end of the high density residential. Uh so we are not trying to squeeze as many units as we can uh onto the development. And in fact, we are preserving a large amount of open space uh throughout the development. [2:08:02, 2:08:03]: Uh [2:08:05, 2:08:25]: As uh staff had mentioned earlier in their presentation, uh we are surrounded primarily by medium density residential, uh, but there are other high-density residential land uses, uh, primarily the Big Oak Villa Townhomes, which is 0.42 miles uh to the east of our property along Davis Road. Uh that is the property that's currently [2:08:25, 2:08:32]: At a density of around nine units per acre and has a uh land use designation of high density residential. [2:08:34, 2:08:39]: We fit our request fits a number of goals of the city's current comprehensive plan. Uh [2:08:41, 2:09:00]: One, to provide a variety of housing choices to suit the changing needs and lifestyle of city residents. That's on page 38 of the comp plan. To provide a mixture of housing options to attract young professionals, singles, and small families. To preserve and enhance older existing neighborhoods by promoting infill development to revitalize established neighborhoods. [2:09:01, 2:09:21]: In the comprehensive plan specifically notes the lack of townhomes and the need to provide housing options. Uh on page 18 of the comprehensive plan says the dominant housing option is likely to remain single family development. However, to attract certain segments of the population, like young adults and millennials, other housing options should be available. Currently, there's a lack of townhouse, another multifamily residential house. [2:09:21, 2:09:21]: Housing. [2:09:22, 2:09:39]: Uh it's unlikely that the property will be redeveloped uh under its current land or low density residential land use designation. Uh it's not suitable for uh single family or the other type of uh uh development that the city is seeking with its comprehensive plan. [2:09:42, 2:09:49]: So to go into a little bit of the development itself, and I want to be cognizant of my time so I don't run over, but um [2:09:51, 2:10:11]: There's a number of benefits that we've looked at with this plan. One is affordability. These units will be priced in the high 200 to 300 range. These are for sale units. So we're not seeking any tax credits for uh technical affordable housing. Uh so we're not bound by HUD restrictions uh for that, but we are making these affordable for the market. [2:10:12, 2:10:26]: Uh the medium home price of new sales in Henry County Stockbridge for the last twelve months uh ranged in the high three hundred thousands. Uh so our price range of high two hundred to to low three hundreds is well below that uh uh medium home sale price for the area. [2:10:27, 2:10:43]: And what we are proposing is within the range of many younger home buyers and empty nesters, which is our market for the townhomes. Um and it's also the market that the comprehensive plan specifically notes uh that the city of Stockbridge is trying to attract, uh the younger professionals. [2:10:45, 2:11:05]: Uh parking. Uh one issue with our initial conversations with the city was parking throughout the property. We initially only had a few guest parking spaces. Uh we did meet the UDC's requirement for parking. However, we went back and took a second look at guest parking throughout the property. Uh we'll provide a total number [2:11:05, 2:11:25]: of or there's a mix of one and two uh car garages uh so we can provide a variety of housing product uh throughout the development to attract a range of buyers. Uh we will provide approximately 281 spaces, uh garage spaces, uh an additional 281 driveway spaces, and then 92 surface parking spaces, which [2:11:25, 2:11:45]: Which is a significant number of uh guest surface spaces for this type of development, uh, for a total of six hundred and fifty-four spaces throughout the uh the development. Uh to put that in context, the yak the Stockbridge UDC only requires a minimum of two point two five units, or excuse me, two point two five spaces per unit. Uh we are at three point eight. [2:11:45, 2:12:05]: Uh four spaces per unit. So quite a quite a large number of additional parking uh for guests uh in the uh in the facility. And and the reason for this is to try to curtail on-street parking, uh, which can also be controlled through the HOA. Yeah, I record uh open space, uh as I noted. [2:12:05, 2:12:25]: Earlier, we are preserving uh or providing a large amount of open space. Approximately 7.9 acres of the overall 27 acres is uh will be open space. A large portion of that is here to the northern uh part of the property. We are providing nature trails uh through this area, uh, as well as preserving a large [2:12:25, 2:12:29]: [7950.7, 7961.2]: Uh in addition, we are providing playground, dog park, a walking trail, well walking trail I mentioned, as well as around 5,600 uh square feet of uh landscape public space. [2:12:42, 2:12:44]: Uh traffic improvements uh [2:12:45, 2:12:53]: Some of the comments that came up at the Planning Commission and some of the uh comments that we've heard from the community are were in regards to traffic. [2:12:53, 2:13:11]: Four star has performed and provided a traffic study for this development. Uh that traffic study looked at the current impacts to traffic without the project and then looked at impacts to the adjacent roadways and intersections after the future build, which means after this project is built. [2:13:12, 2:13:13]: And determine that there will be no [2:13:14, 2:13:26]: drop in a level of service to the surrounding uh intersections or roadways. And what that means, a level of service is a measurement, uh engineering measurement of how well these intersections perform. Um [2:13:27, 2:13:47]: So even with the addition of our uh project, we are not looking at more cars backing up the at the adjacent intersections. Uh in addition, the traffic study also took into account the Georgia DOTU's plan widening for Highway 138 and 42. Uh Davis Road empties onto Highway 42. It's currently a [2:13:47, 2:14:07]: A an odd intersection, to say the the least. The DOT's plans are to make that into a right-only, so it will restrict left turns out from Davis Road, which should help improve uh vehicular conflicts at that intersection. [2:14:07, 2:14:27]: Also, our proposed development's construction timeline aligns with the DOT's improvements as well. The DOT should start construction or is planned to start construction in 2024. We should have our first lots ready to uh for vertical construction uh in the summer of 2025, and then uh the lots closing around. [2:14:27, 2:14:36]: Around the summer of 2027. So the improvements to highway 42 and 138 should be online by the time our units are sold. [2:14:38, 2:14:47]: Uh in addition, as I mentioned earlier, we're providing 10-foot sidewalk along the frontage, uh which allows or facilitates pedestrian movement. Uh [2:14:48, 2:15:08]: In front of our property along Davis Road, we are also installing a left turn lane, a dedicated left turn lane, as well as a diesel lane. Uh what that does not only improves movement into uh our development, but also allows through traffic uh to proceed without having to stop and wait and back up traffic along Davis Road uh for those. [2:15:08, 2:15:10]: [8111.4, 8115.0]: Uh one other concern that was mentioned by uh [2:15:15, 2:15:33]: Both the community and Mayor Pro Tem Barber was the intersection at Davis and Shields Road. We do not have control over that intersection. That's a system improvement. Uh that is something that would fall upon the city or Henry County DOT uh to improve. Uh there is a concern about how that aligns. Um [2:15:35, 2:15:51]: Century Oak Court, which is the uh duplex development to the east of our uh uh property, does not align with Shields Road, so it it results in an awkward four-way stop configuration. However, our traffic study actually looked at this intersection. Um [2:15:53, 2:16:13]: Only thirty percent of the traffic is flowing toward eastward, uh towards that intersection. The r vast majority is seventy percent is going towards highway forty two. So we should have little impact. Stand by council, are you willing to give uh Alex uh Mr. Brock their additional time to finish this presentation? Five more minutes, please. Well, we'll give'em additional time. You you the rest of the council's good with that as well? Five. [2:16:13, 2:16:27]: We'll see. We'll give right now we'll give them extra time. Sir, continue please. Okay. I appreciate that. I'm trying to cover a lot of the points that could be made in the other applications as well, but I figured first application I'm trying to hit some of these. Um [2:16:28, 2:16:48]: And I won't take the whole five minutes, but to move next to public support uh or public outreach. Uh we've had three separate mailings as required by the cities UDC. Uh well, Cities UDC only requires us to sell out one notification to the uh adjacent property owners. Uh since this has been deferred several times, we ended up having [2:16:48, 2:17:08]: having s having to send uh three separate notifications. Uh the first one on January 6th, another one on February 28th, and then uh the last one on April 10th. The only response that we received was from the adjacent owner of the uh Pine Hills Estates Mobile Home Park, uh and they were in support, and that is the letter I handed out earlier tonight. [2:17:08, 2:17:08]: Um [2:17:10, 2:17:30]: At the planning commission, uh several property owners uh showed up. Um one at the adjacent five sixty six Davis Road and then the other property owner at the corner of Shields and Davis uh that had some concerns at the urging of that body. We set up a community meeting, uh which I'd like to point out is not required by the UDC. [2:17:30, 2:17:50]: We did that as a proactive measure to meet with the community. That was held last Wednesday on May 3rd. The residents again immediately adjacent to our property were notified. We hand delivered those notifications to the uh set those at the at the property. [2:17:49, 2:18:03]: The the weekend before the meeting, uh, we had approximately eight members of the community show up to that meeting. Uh all had similar concerns regarding traffic, uh impacts to wildlife during construction. Uh a lot of typical um [2:18:05, 2:18:25]: I guess concerns that deal generally with development uh in any sort of growth uh that a community experiences. In our studies, particularly our traffic study and our site design, we've tried to address all the issues that we can control, uh monitoring traffic, how our imp how our development will impact this routing roadways, and how we can [2:18:25, 2:18:37]: uh uh fit within the community. Uh some of the issues again are system improvements we we have no control over. Uh again, that is the normal uh growth of a community. Um [2:18:38, 2:18:58]: Uh but they are concerns to the the surrounding property owners. Uh the last point or uh last two points, we are extending uh sewer from Shields Road to our site. Uh currently there is no s uh public sewer uh to our site, so we are extending sewer up to our site. These will be sewered uh properties. And then finally, just to mention four-star. [2:18:58, 2:19:18]: The Four Star is a nationwide developer of residential lots. They do quite a number of units throughout the country. And they have several in the Atlanta area. One nearby is Hampton Preserve at 103 Hampton Circle, which is a similar townhome development. And with that, I'll rest my presentation. [2:19:18, 2:19:38]: Appreciate your presentation, sir. Uh, council, any questions for Mr. Brock? Question. Oh, go ahead, Ms. Blount. Yeah, how how did you come to the the compromise to reduce the units um and to upgrade the amenities and the the whole development plan? How did you come to that conclusion? A lot of that was through discussions with uh we reached out to city council. [2:19:38, 2:19:46]: as well as staff uh prior to the public hearings uh through our through the process to hear some of the concerns early on. [2:19:47, 2:20:07]: As this body may be well aware, it's it's a lot easier to resolve issues early in the process rather than than later. Uh so we were able to take a second look at the density uh to go back and sharpen our pencils to reduce the number of units as much as we can uh to increase to allow for increased uh guest parking as [2:20:07, 2:20:27]: well as what unit what amenities we could provide. We looked at the cost of construction of a full clubhouse versus a pavilion uh and were able to provide that without impacting the HOA. A lot of these concerns also go towards what the homeowners will be paying in uh HOA fees. [2:20:27, 2:20:29]: [8430.3, 8443.6]: Well that's well that's what what I'm getting to because I'm trying to figure out how do you go from what you all originally had to the compromise because these compromise are very specific. [2:20:43, 2:21:03]: And are you these compromise? Are you dealing with the district? Um council member in that district for for the compromise. Is that correct? That's correct. Uh the clubhouse, uh the ten foot sidewalk, and uh a number of the other items came f uh specifically from our our council member through her discussions and she she has been [2:21:03, 2:21:05]: And uh community with us. [2:21:05, 2:21:06]: No. [2:21:08, 2:21:15]: Any other questions? Go ahead, Miss Barber. Thank you. As the city council district representative [2:21:15, 2:21:18]: Of the area that you all are proposing. [2:21:18, 2:21:19]: for this development. [2:21:21, 2:21:25]: I had a couple of questions for staff. Mr Ryan Anderson. [2:21:26, 2:21:34]: Ms. Carter, I wanted to know can just for the record. When was this application for this development originally submitted? [2:21:34, 2:21:36]: Uh I'm thinking in August. [2:21:37, 2:21:44]: August of last year. Yes. Thank you, sir. Oh I mean October. October. October, right, Linda? Yes, October. [2:21:45, 2:21:46]: Oh, thank you, sir. All right. [2:21:47, 2:21:47]: Okay. [2:21:49, 2:21:52]: Октоб ластєр диспатики. [2:21:53, 2:21:54]: Within [2:21:54, 2:21:55]: The county. [2:21:55, 2:21:58]: an unincorporated Henry County. [2:21:59, 2:22:00]: I spoke with [2:22:00, 2:22:03]: Юсер і алам від партнерс. [2:22:03, 2:22:04]: Early on. [2:22:04, 2:22:08]: It was prior to the approval of the annexation. [2:22:08, 2:22:09]: I just want that [2:22:10, 2:22:11]: For the record. [2:22:12, 2:22:14]: When you contacted me in regards to this, [2:22:14, 2:22:19]: It was for a proposal of two hundred and fifty something odd units. [2:22:20, 2:22:28]: I want to say for the record, I support our city's efforts in redeveloping, redeveloping our entire city. [2:22:29, 2:22:31]: I'm gonna be real transparent about that. [2:22:32, 2:22:34]: I support the efforts. [2:22:36, 2:22:40]: I also support efforts in helping to improve [2:22:41, 2:22:43]: certain areas within my district as well. [2:22:44, 2:22:47]: This particular area I inquired about. [2:22:47, 2:22:51]: Um immediately after the annexation was approved. [2:22:51, 2:22:55]: I wanted to know what we could do to improve the quality of life. [2:22:55, 2:23:00]: Of all of the residents and homeowners within my district. [2:23:02, 2:23:03]: When I spoke with you all [2:23:04, 2:23:05]: Back in October. [2:23:06, 2:23:08]: November, whenever it was, I believe October. [2:23:09, 2:23:12]: Um I asked you all at that time to reduce the amount of units. [2:23:13, 2:23:23]: I think you've reduced your amount of units twice since then, um, perhaps with further discussions with staff. [2:23:24, 2:23:26]: I also asked during the original [2:23:26, 2:23:27]: Discussion. [2:23:27, 2:23:29]: For clubhouse and pool. [2:23:30, 2:23:35]: I also asked if you all could develop single family homes instead of town homes. [2:23:36, 2:23:40]: I also ask that you all explore tiny home options. [2:23:40, 2:23:41]: As well. [2:23:42, 2:23:43]: But here we are. [2:23:43, 2:23:45]: still with a town home development. [2:23:47, 2:23:55]: I have had an opportunity over the past three weeks to get out and talk with some of the homeowners in the area. [2:23:55, 2:23:58]: Агатасе, ам диспоїд і еферс. [2:23:58, 2:23:59]: Two. [2:23:59, 2:24:00]: Communicate. [2:24:00, 2:24:04]: with the residents who live in the immediate area for this proposed development. [2:24:05, 2:24:08]: Which is why last week when I spoke with [2:24:08, 2:24:09]: The two gentlemen. [2:24:09, 2:24:17]: I ask please postpone this presentation until there is adequate notice that's given to the homeowners there. [2:24:17, 2:24:19]: I represent them. [2:24:20, 2:24:21]: Their interests. [2:24:21, 2:24:22]: Not mine. [2:24:23, 2:24:25]: I support redevelopment. [2:24:26, 2:24:27]: Throughout our city. [2:24:27, 2:24:29]: Including this area. [2:24:29, 2:24:30]: However [2:24:31, 2:24:33]: I am elected to represent. [2:24:34, 2:24:36]: The needs, desires of the people. [2:24:37, 2:24:38]: Not my own. [2:24:39, 2:24:40]: The residents who are here [2:24:41, 2:24:44]: That I've spoken with since then. [2:24:44, 2:24:46]: They are not in support of this development. [2:24:47, 2:24:48]: I wanted time to [2:24:48, 2:24:50]: Continue talking to them. [2:24:50, 2:24:53]: and addressing their concerns and their desires. [2:24:54, 2:24:57]: In fact, I believe in twenty nineteen. [2:24:57, 2:24:59]: Де вас і потишн. [2:24:59, 2:25:02]: By homeowners who live off of Shields Road. [2:25:03, 2:25:05]: They were trying to get [2:25:05, 2:25:06]: Caution lights. [2:25:07, 2:25:08]: Speed bumps. [2:25:10, 2:25:11]: Sidewalks. [2:25:12, 2:25:14]: They even got a petition. [2:25:15, 2:25:16]: With [2:25:16, 2:25:19]: I can't remember how many signatures are on that petition. [2:25:19, 2:25:21]: I have a copy of it, it's in my car though. [2:25:21, 2:25:24]: Бо the ситі газ такин но акція. [2:25:25, 2:25:27]: А вона мекшир да ім фостерин. [2:25:28, 2:25:29]: And good. [2:25:29, 2:25:31]: relationship with the folks that I am [2:25:32, 2:25:34]: Supposed to represent. [2:25:35, 2:25:36]: Thank you, sir. [2:25:39, 2:25:59]: But we have no stem stem I first of all, sir, you should not have done that. That's something that should have been gotten to the clerk or you should have been announced, or I should've acknowledged you. Number two is the time I I think the time that that that Miss Barber's talking about this, this community, I believe, was not inside the city of limits of Stockbridge. If we're talking about Yes, it is. He lives on Shields Road. Okay. It is in within [2:25:59, 2:25:59]: Yeah. [2:26:00, 2:26:04]: The city and it's been within the city. Okay. Oh go ahead. Go ahead. [2:26:04, 2:26:08]: А sent an email to my council maids um back in April. [2:26:09, 2:26:10]: And again. [2:26:10, 2:26:12]: Um just last week. [2:26:13, 2:26:26]: Letting you all know that I would not be supporting this proposed development at this time. I ask for more time. More time because I want to see our city make [2:26:27, 2:26:27]: A [2:26:28, 2:26:28]: Um [2:26:29, 2:26:30]: Farm [2:26:30, 2:26:31]: Effort. [2:26:31, 2:26:33]: in addressing the infrastructure needs. [2:26:34, 2:26:36]: I'm afraid with this proposed development. [2:26:37, 2:26:40]: That is going to increase the traffic flow on that area. [2:26:41, 2:26:42]: I know that is not [2:26:42, 2:26:43]: Your responsibility. [2:26:44, 2:26:46]: Із ситі'с репоси. [2:26:46, 2:26:53]: The misalignment of Shields Road and Davis Road is already their safety concerns. [2:26:54, 2:26:55]: Already. [2:26:55, 2:26:56]: A knee for [2:26:57, 2:26:59]: Myself and my councilmates. [2:26:59, 2:27:01]: Point of order. [2:27:02, 2:27:22]: Legal, I I need us you to chime in to make sure we're not putting ourselves in a precarious position with some of these. Um I am addressing the concerns with other residents. He had a point of order who live in standby. He had he asked for point of order. I will continue will addressing the concerns that I've addressed with the developers already. [2:27:22, 2:27:32]: I just want this on record. Okay, stand by please. I've made stand by six. Could you stand by for a second, please? Relax for a second, please. Mr. had a point of order. Uh um Mr. Washington. [2:27:33, 2:27:53]: Your point of order seem to always come when I speak. I I don't want to cut off your rights, but I want don't we get to understand that where we're some of the comments that you made may make this easier for it to be appealed. And I and I wanna make sure the decision that we're made is sound. And if we're talking [2:27:53, 2:28:07]: about traffic improvements being placed upon the developer, that's not the is a responsability of the developer. I said that is the city's responsability. [2:28:08, 2:28:09]: The city has neglected. [2:28:10, 2:28:30]: neglected improving the infrastructure in that area. Okay, step I can't support this. Stand by. Could you could you calm down for a second? Stand by for a second please. Ms. Alexander had a point of order. He's right the he's right here in front. I just need I want to make sure that you're here and you're understanding and you're listening to what's being input. [2:28:30, 2:28:50]: But I 100% support your right to be able to support your district. But I don't want us to do something that will make our put our decision in jeopardy, which is talking about improvements that need to be made before we can move forward that the city is accountable for, because what we're doing is we're putting our [2:28:50, 2:29:10]: myself in a position where we're putting, even though we're saying that these are the responsibility of the city, we're making the dis we we're I don't want you to and I don't want to put words in your mouth. You we're we're we're we're it's projecting out like these things have to be accomplished before they can move forward. And they're not their responsibility. There's the city's responsibility [2:29:10, 2:29:30]: Responsibility. So we can't hold them up because we failed to do those role projects. As you said, that was in the city. We failed on that side. But we got to keep that on our side. And we can't hold their project up. You can deny it, but you can't deny it on those grounds that those things need to be done first before they move forward. Is what I'm saying. [2:29:30, 2:29:34]: I just want to make sure you or you're listening to what's being said. [2:29:34, 2:29:35]: What the [2:29:36, 2:29:56]: The way in which we have been working with the new development code is that if something is passed and the applicant has an issue with it, then part of the discretion that the department has along the legal is if it is going to be a legal issue, we can reserve that issue and make a decision about it. [2:29:56, 2:30:16]: it and if the parties don't agree to it then we can bring it back to you all for you all to make the final call on it and so what the hope has been is that we've always been able to work with the applicants in such a way that their goals can be accomplished while at the same time making sure we as the staff work to make sure your goals are executed in this. So they can be further they can be further reviewed as long [2:30:16, 2:30:20]: as it's not substantive further review after you all have voted on it. [2:30:21, 2:30:37]: Thank you. I'm okay with what you you you represent in the district for sure. I appreciate it. I'd like to continue addressing the concerns and desires of the residents that I represent. If I could please you can continue, but don't also get an opportunity to speak. You know, get three minutes to speak in a little bit. [2:30:37, 2:30:41]: You had to stand by, sir. Just stand by f just a little bit, sir. Stand by. Go ahead, finish your comments. [2:30:43, 2:30:44]: Does Barber finish your comments? [2:30:45, 2:30:45]: Okay. [2:30:45, 2:30:46]: Um [2:30:46, 2:30:47]: So [2:30:48, 2:30:50]: The misalignment of [2:30:50, 2:30:51]: Lee um [2:30:52, 2:30:53]: Davis Road. [2:30:53, 2:30:54]: In Shields Road. [2:30:54, 2:30:55]: Um [2:30:56, 2:30:57]: Has me really concerned. [2:30:57, 2:30:58]: Considering [2:30:58, 2:31:01]: диспис диспетишн [2:31:01, 2:31:03]: For speed bumps was presented to the council. [2:31:04, 2:31:07]: January twenty nineteen. That was prior to me. [2:31:07, 2:31:18]: Um and the city has not taken any action on it. There are safety concerns there. That's one of my standby sec. What's your point of order? Uh but stand by please. What's your point of order, sir? [2:31:18, 2:31:30]: Mayor, we're here with this in front of us. We need to speak what's germane to this, not pass petitions, not pass wants and needs of a community. I I sympathize with everybody. [2:31:31, 2:31:35]: But that's not germane to what's in front of us right now, what we need to deal with. [2:31:36, 2:31:43]: This is what this is empty time that we waste. And I'm not gonna I'm I'm not belittling what they what the communities want. [2:31:44, 2:31:50]: But speed bumps and all of that has nothing to do with this development. That's not germane to what the subject at hand. [2:31:51, 2:31:54]: We need to stick to the subject at hand because for me [2:31:55, 2:31:57]: What gets convoluted for me is [2:31:58, 2:32:18]: When you when we sit here and we look at all these compromises and all these requests and all these things and the developers is uh is doing it, and now we come back and saying now we want to talk about what they've asked for privately, that's not germane to what we're talking about right here. We need to stick to the subject here. All right, all right. Understand by understand your point. [2:32:18, 2:32:34]: Is this a public hearing? It it sure is a public hearing. Okay then the public is going to address their concerns, right? I want to continue addressing my concerns at our germane to this proposed development. If you will allow me and stop cutting me off. [2:32:34, 2:32:51]: Listen. Everyone else in here is able to speak freely without interruption. I have listen, uh I'm I'm fair and equal but You're not being fair. Yes I yes I am. I have You're not. Well I'm pointing out the speaker things that this city has failed to do. I tell you what. [2:32:51, 2:33:07]: I'll tell you what you do. How about this? You go ahead and finish. No, stand by standard. I want you to hear me out. You go ahead and finish. The people will get a chance to speak, it's a public hearing. You go ahead and finish. And we'll just see what happens in the future. I understand your concern, Mr. Blount. Go ahead. Go ahead and finish your comments and then we'll continue on. Um [2:33:08, 2:33:09]: When I asked [2:33:10, 2:33:24]: that they postpone this hearing uh or postponed this hearing to a later date to notify all of the residents who are affected in the immediate area. I did not hear back from them. [2:33:25, 2:33:26]: During the planning commission meeting [2:33:27, 2:33:37]: One of the homeowners, the homeowner whose home is adjacent to this proposed development, asked for a community forum. [2:33:38, 2:33:41]: The proposed developer, they agreed. [2:33:42, 2:33:46]: They notified only those properties that are a but. [2:33:46, 2:33:47]: Two. [2:33:48, 2:33:49]: This proposed development. [2:33:50, 2:33:52]: Only those homeowners. [2:33:53, 2:33:54]: And residents. [2:33:54, 2:34:05]: in Century Oaks Duplex Town Home Community, who live on the left side of that same community. They were the only ones notified. [2:34:05, 2:34:08]: All the ones who are on the right side of the street [2:34:08, 2:34:09]: were not notified. [2:34:10, 2:34:13]: I know that because I walked through the community. [2:34:13, 2:34:17]: I saw the notices that were left by the developer. [2:34:18, 2:34:27]: on the ground, they were in ziploc bo bags with rocks, rocks in them with the notices in them. But I didn't see any of'em on the right side. [2:34:29, 2:34:33]: In addition to that, none of the residents along Shields Road [2:34:33, 2:34:39]: or the other neighborhood on the opposite side of Pine Hill's town home. [2:34:39, 2:34:41]: have been notified. [2:34:41, 2:34:47]: I just wanted to give adequate time to all of the homeowners who would be impacted. [2:34:47, 2:34:48]: by this proposed development. [2:34:49, 2:34:50]: Once again. [2:34:51, 2:34:52]: I do not [2:34:52, 2:34:53]: Um [2:34:53, 2:34:56]: Oppose of this development. [2:34:56, 2:35:02]: What I'm asking is that every developer that comes to city council district four [2:35:03, 2:35:04]: Be developer friendly. [2:35:06, 2:35:07]: Developer friendly. [2:35:08, 2:35:13]: Anytime you're looking to develop in City Council District Four, you're gonna have to see me. [2:35:15, 2:35:15]: And I will [2:35:16, 2:35:18]: Ask that you please. [2:35:18, 2:35:20]: Please work with the people. [2:35:20, 2:35:22]: Who live in that area? [2:35:22, 2:35:23]: That's all I'm asking. [2:35:24, 2:35:27]: I think I mentioned about the clubhouse and the pool. [2:35:27, 2:35:29]: I asked for that early on. [2:35:29, 2:35:32]: I know that there is areas [2:35:32, 2:35:35]: Um in the back side of this development does not [2:35:35, 2:35:36]: Bill. [2:35:38, 2:35:38]: He didn't [2:35:39, 2:35:41]: The attorney didn't address that. [2:35:41, 2:35:42]: [9342.9, 9344.1]: That area in the back. [2:35:44, 2:35:48]: I don't know if it's wetlands or whatever the case may be, but it's not buildable. [2:35:49, 2:35:55]: Um, I don't like the fact that all these homes in the middle are squeezed in like it looks as though. [2:35:55, 2:35:57]: You know, you're jamming in. [2:35:58, 2:35:59]: Um town homes. [2:36:00, 2:36:03]: I did speak with the two gentlemen on the phone last week. [2:36:04, 2:36:07]: They requested a phone call with me. [2:36:07, 2:36:10]: In which I addressed um those middle [2:36:10, 2:36:11]: Units. [2:36:12, 2:36:14]: There are five of them in the middle. [2:36:15, 2:36:18]: I even um refer to a propo well [2:36:19, 2:36:20]: A [2:36:20, 2:36:22]: Town home community that I had driven through. [2:36:23, 2:36:24]: In Tucker. [2:36:24, 2:36:26]: Um Avery Hills, I believe. [2:36:27, 2:36:31]: Um I drove through there because I wanted to see what other town home communities look like. [2:36:32, 2:36:37]: With this proposed development they're asking for a variance of a twenty five feet. [2:36:37, 2:36:38]: Set bag. [2:36:38, 2:36:39]: Our current [2:36:40, 2:36:44]: Um code requires a fifty feet setback. [2:36:44, 2:36:48]: But this proposed development is asking for a variance. [2:36:48, 2:36:49]: I wanted to verify. [2:36:50, 2:36:53]: What new town homes currently? [2:36:53, 2:36:54]: are doing. [2:36:55, 2:37:00]: And they are correct. Most town homes now do have a twenty five feet setback. [2:37:01, 2:37:06]: But that community, Avery Heels, does not have a hundred and seventy units. [2:37:08, 2:37:08]: They have [2:37:09, 2:37:11]: Less than seventy five units. [2:37:11, 2:37:12]: We looked at it together. [2:37:16, 2:37:17]: So [2:37:17, 2:37:20]: In order to get my support on this proposed development [2:37:20, 2:37:24]: There are some firm commitments I'm looking for from the city. [2:37:24, 2:37:28]: Most of the areas that have been newly annexed in our city. [2:37:29, 2:37:33]: A lot of them are in city council district four. [2:37:33, 2:37:34]: So the clever [2:37:34, 2:37:35]: Person. [2:37:35, 2:37:38]: Who drew these district lines because [2:37:38, 2:37:40]: I wasn't involved in any of that. [2:37:40, 2:37:42]: They knew exactly what they were doing. [2:37:42, 2:37:45]: You're gonna get pushback from me every time. [2:37:45, 2:37:47]: When you try to make a decision for me. [2:37:48, 2:37:50]: And force me to just go along. [2:37:50, 2:37:51]: I'm not. [2:37:51, 2:37:52]: I will [2:37:53, 2:37:57]: Always rely on what the people in the community want. [2:37:58, 2:37:59]: They have to live there. [2:38:00, 2:38:01]: I live farthest east of the city. [2:38:02, 2:38:03]: They live farthest north. [2:38:04, 2:38:24]: I think I have addressed all of the concerns. Thank you, Mayor Ford. Appreciate it. Um Ms. Rosalind, uh come on up, please, and and do what you need to do. Um and uh could you do me a favor, Rosalind? Could you get uh our make sure our attorneys present at the right here, please? Thank you. Um okay. [2:38:24, 2:38:27]: Uh thank you for that. Any other I'm sorry, Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [2:38:28, 2:38:29]: Mayor, I just want to say this. [2:38:31, 2:38:31]: Is that [2:38:32, 2:38:35]: When we have anyone come present to us. [2:38:37, 2:38:39]: I look at everything for me. [2:38:41, 2:38:46]: And I I tell you what's what what's convoluted this whole thing for me is [2:38:46, 2:38:48]: Is that the developers [2:38:49, 2:38:50]: And what's been stated. [2:38:50, 2:38:52]: has reduced the amount of [2:38:52, 2:38:54]: Holmes twice. [2:38:54, 2:38:58]: I asked the developer how did he come to the compromise? [2:38:58, 2:39:00]: And it has come from discussions. [2:39:01, 2:39:05]: Reducing the units, upgrading amenities, these all things been discussions. [2:39:06, 2:39:10]: Development plans, ten foot pad all of these things been discussions. [2:39:12, 2:39:18]: They have been discussed not by what you don't want, it's been discussed about what you want to see. [2:39:18, 2:39:20]: That's what all this is. [2:39:21, 2:39:23]: So either we're gonna waste [2:39:24, 2:39:28]: developers time and discuss these things and they make the changes [2:39:29, 2:39:35]: What's convoluted for me is is that if you don't want something, why ask someone to make changes? [2:39:37, 2:39:38]: It makes no sense to me. [2:39:39, 2:39:40]: Oh yeah. All right. [2:39:40, 2:39:51]: I thank you. Um I have uh I have a couple of yeah. Yeah, go ahead, please. Th but see, Mr. Washington, this is the position that I I'm very concerned about, which is [2:39:52, 2:39:57]: We are s we're in a position where the developer has made numerous concessions already. [2:39:58, 2:40:05]: and we're stating that we want more concessions and then we want the city to do certain things. [2:40:06, 2:40:06]: The city [2:40:07, 2:40:13]: Can't the the requirements for the city to do these things can't be attached to this development. [2:40:14, 2:40:14]: Right. [2:40:15, 2:40:35]: Right. D these requirements, that's why I'm saying mentioning them make them seem as though the city has to commit to them before this can move forward. I don't want to put us in a position, I hope that's not what's being said. Certainly that's not a position that we want to put ourselves in. But as Mr. Bunt has alluded to. [2:40:35, 2:40:55]: We've had ongoing discussions with them. So we need to get to the point of if it is going to be, if it's not going to be, you tell us what it's going to be, but what is it that you're looking to see or that you want to see? But these the these road improvements can't be a part of that. [2:40:55, 2:41:15]: Because that's not upon them in order to do that. If there's something else that you want them to do as the developer, and then you you gotta understand you asked them to reach out to the community. They're not required to do that under the city code. So they've already gone above and beyond what was required. [2:41:15, 2:41:20]: They did not have to go to they did not have to have this uh community meeting. [2:41:20, 2:41:40]: At all. They decided to have it. They did not have to go out and pass out these additional flyers to the other residents. They did. They did not pass enough for you. But again, that is a ask. That is not a tell. They have the right to say no because under city code, they're not required to do that. So what I'm saying. [2:41:40, 2:41:43]: [9704.1, 9724.1]: Time is money to the developers and to the city and to the residents as well. We don't want them to keep coming back up here if it's it to understand what it is going to happen. So we need to get to a point where is what is known to them that they gotta do what hoop they gotta jump through or what uh if this is just impossible. [2:42:04, 2:42:24]: Say that it's impossible if that's what your position is. But if there's something that they can do uh to sort of mitigate this or something the residents can do, but I want to hear from the residents. We've talked enough. You'll get that shortened. So let's let's hear from the residents. You'll get that shortening so just appreciate it. Everybody in council, uh Mr. Thomas has spoken. I didn't know if whether or not you [2:42:24, 2:42:25]: You wanted to have a comment, sir, at this time. [2:42:26, 2:42:28]: Okay, good. All right. So uh [2:42:28, 2:42:33]: That's enough for right now. Public hearing. So now I'm gonna open up for a public hearing. [2:42:33, 2:42:33]: All right. [2:42:35, 2:42:36]: Miss Barber, give me a little. [2:42:39, 2:42:40]: Yes, ma'am. [2:42:40, 2:42:46]: We have Mr. Richard Richard. Well Sam standby st s stand by m uh stand by please. [2:42:46, 2:42:56]: Let me open up public hearing. Uh in point of contention. Are we doing ten four, ten against or we're going to do the whole thing? We're doing we're we're going to open it up and I'm gonna give folks the top three three minutes to [2:42:57, 2:43:09]: Three minutes to speak. Okay. So I'm open to public hearing. So all in favor in favor of, just like the last time, and all in favor of this proposal, this development. Okay, on my far left side. Any comments for? [2:43:10, 2:43:11]: Any comments in the middle? [2:43:12, 2:43:14]: Any comments for on the right side. [2:43:15, 2:43:17]: Okay, wait a minute. [2:43:18, 2:43:19]: You have comics for? [2:43:19, 2:43:20]: For the development. [2:43:21, 2:43:41]: Okay, not in the middle, none uh anyone comments on the right side. Not on the right side. Okay, any comments against this particular proposal proposal, stand by. And I'm talking about on my far left. Okay? You need to line up on this side, please. Okay, you need line up right up here. Uh uh Kim, uh Lance, raise your hand. Okay, line up right right there in that aisle right. [2:43:41, 2:43:48]: Right next to that gentleman right there. If if you're if you're stand by. I'm talking about the left side. [2:43:49, 2:43:50]: I'm talking about the left side. [2:43:51, 2:43:56]: I just line line up right there. If the stay just just play line up, just sta establish line. All right. [2:43:56, 2:43:58]: Okay. Any anybody in the middle? [2:43:59, 2:44:00]: For a against [2:44:01, 2:44:02]: Against [2:44:03, 2:44:05]: Against the proposal. I always did four. [2:44:05, 2:44:06]: Okay. [2:44:12, 2:44:14]: I've already s asked for four. I went I went through that process. [2:44:16, 2:44:18]: I closed the floor. I went through I went through that process. [2:44:25, 2:44:33]: Okay one one second. Right now, sir, just have a seat for right. [2:44:34, 2:44:35]: Have a seat for right now. [2:44:36, 2:44:36]: All right. [2:44:37, 2:44:42]: For okay, left side, people are against. Independent, people that are against this proposal. [2:44:44, 2:44:46]: Okay, line up behind this gentleman over here. [2:44:47, 2:44:49]: On my far right side, anybody against the proposal? [2:44:50, 2:44:55]: So right now I have I have two gentlemen that are against the proposal that's being presented. [2:44:58, 2:44:59]: Against [2:44:59, 2:45:00]: Against [2:45:04, 2:45:06]: Okay, that's what I thought he said earlier. [2:45:06, 2:45:07]: Okay. [2:45:07, 2:45:13]: Anybody anybody that is against the proposal, line up over here please. [2:45:14, 2:45:14]: Now [2:45:15, 2:45:23]: When you come up, get your name and address, and you get three minutes. Three minutes. The clerk will will set the clock for three minutes. [2:45:24, 2:45:24]: Okay, Mayor. [2:45:25, 2:45:32]: Initially we went through that. I have no speakers that were in favor when you went through that. [2:45:32, 2:45:45]: I I I've realized that but seems though I don't know why I thought I was clear, but he said he's for this, so I'm gonna run come back. Okay, I will come I will come back. Okay. I will come back. All right now. [2:45:46, 2:45:53]: I I seem like I got three, maybe three people that are against, all right? Come on to the podium. Name and address. Three minutes, please, Miss Clerk. [2:45:56, 2:46:04]: My name is Mark McFry. I live at 289 Shields Road, Stockbridge, Georgia. Thank you, Mr. Ford. Go ahead. Thank you. Thank you, Council. [2:46:06, 2:46:11]: I don't think we're all against this proposal. I think what we're against is the high density. [2:46:12, 2:46:16]: You've already got rules right now in place. [2:46:16, 2:46:19]: Why change'em now just for this developer. [2:46:21, 2:46:23]: That's what I ask. [2:46:23, 2:46:25]: We're looking at quality of life. [2:46:25, 2:46:31]: You know, you putn he said he wanted two hundred and fifty something, then they dropped it down to two thirty. [2:46:31, 2:46:37]: I'm looking at that land. All right. He's got a hundred and seventy crammed in there now. [2:46:37, 2:46:39]: What were they gonna do? Just [2:46:39, 2:46:40]: Bordeaux and [2:46:41, 2:46:44]: cover up that pond and that wetlands and just build on top of that. [2:46:45, 2:46:48]: I build. I've been building for forty years. [2:46:48, 2:46:50]: I know how developers work. [2:46:51, 2:46:55]: If they can put a place in there, they'd put it in there. [2:46:55, 2:46:58]: When it was Henry County, that was their plan. [2:46:58, 2:47:00]: To put two hundred and fifty. [2:47:00, 2:47:02]: When it was City of Start Bridge. [2:47:02, 2:47:05]: It was Miss Barber that, you know, said no. [2:47:06, 2:47:10]: That's because yeah, it is a community. We're homeowners. [2:47:10, 2:47:12]: And we live adjacent to it. [2:47:12, 2:47:15]: But we're not the community. We're just part of the community. [2:47:16, 2:47:19]: All we're asking is for you to the [2:47:19, 2:47:20]: The nah. [2:47:21, 2:47:22]: High density. [2:47:22, 2:47:23]: Keep it at medium. [2:47:24, 2:47:29]: That way if any other developments come up, we're still in the medium density. [2:47:29, 2:47:30]: Zhou. [2:47:31, 2:47:34]: Now, if they wanna be in medium density, they still wanna build. [2:47:34, 2:47:41]: How many townhouses is that gonna shave off what they got now? If they're at six point whatever. [2:47:42, 2:47:54]: You know, what, maybe twenty twenty houses, maybe twenty five? I mean, I don't know that's gonna make a difference. It doesn't to us, I mean, but you know, [2:47:55, 2:48:00]: There is an issue with traffic and I think the infrastructure is too far behind. [2:48:01, 2:48:02]: For this kind of development. [2:48:03, 2:48:07]: Henry County for years has been behind. [2:48:07, 2:48:10]: Он девеління інфраструктура. [2:48:11, 2:48:16]: If the infrastructure was there, we probably wouldn't have this conversation. [2:48:16, 2:48:17]: But it's not there. [2:48:18, 2:48:27]: Just last year, year before last, they put a sidewalk next to my property. They took out all my trees that were buffers between me and that road. [2:48:27, 2:48:29]: I live on the corner. [2:48:29, 2:48:45]: I hear everything that goes on. All the loud cars, all the motorcycles, all the b horns being blown because people are running that stop sign. We do need some help. We need help for inst infrastructure. [2:48:45, 2:48:50]: And the zoning meeting that I went to and my wife went to. [2:48:50, 2:48:52]: And my neighbors went too. [2:48:52, 2:48:56]: All they were concerned with was everything from their development [2:48:56, 2:48:57]: To forty two. [2:48:58, 2:49:01]: They weren't concerned about anything going toward the city of Stockbridge. [2:49:02, 2:49:06]: Sit three minutes, sir. Thank you. Appreciate it. Next gentleman. [2:49:09, 2:49:12]: Name, address and clerk three minutes please. [2:49:13, 2:49:17]: My name is Vernard Alcorn. I'm at one nine seven Shields Road. [2:49:17, 2:49:19]: Stockworth, Georgia. [2:49:20, 2:49:20]: Uh uh. [2:49:22, 2:49:23]: As Mark has said [2:49:23, 2:49:25]: We're not against [2:49:25, 2:49:26]: Them building. [2:49:26, 2:49:29]: We're not ad against developing the area. [2:49:29, 2:49:30]: What I'm against. [2:49:31, 2:49:33]: Is there's been no notification. [2:49:33, 2:49:37]: put on my door. There's piece of property beside my house. [2:49:37, 2:49:40]: But they wanted to build something that we didn't let happen. [2:49:40, 2:49:42]: Or or or it hasn't happened. Hasn't come through. [2:49:43, 2:49:48]: Because they want to put a church in our residence without any easement or anything. [2:49:48, 2:49:50]: And traffic is already bad. [2:49:50, 2:49:56]: People are running the stop sign right there at my house. You can come down Davis Road. My house sets with the Horseshoe uh driveway. [2:49:57, 2:49:58]: One nine seven [2:49:58, 2:50:03]: I have grandkids. We play in the front yard. They're riding by. [2:50:03, 2:50:07]: Throwing trash in my yard. They're rot that's now before you even build. [2:50:07, 2:50:13]: So I just want to understand that if the city is wanting them to build something, excuse me. [2:50:15, 2:50:19]: Act on all of what hasn't been acted on before for the traffic. [2:50:20, 2:50:21]: Act on for the crime. [2:50:22, 2:50:22]: I'll say crime. [2:50:23, 2:50:24]: My house has been shot at. [2:50:25, 2:50:25]: Twice. [2:50:26, 2:50:29]: They busted up all my windows going through my house. [2:50:30, 2:50:31]: Two thousand dollars worth of windows. [2:50:32, 2:50:34]: You want more traffic. [2:50:34, 2:50:35]: coming through my neighborhood. [2:50:36, 2:50:37]: And there's nobody. [2:50:38, 2:50:39]: Coming and talkin'. [2:50:39, 2:50:40]: There's nobody. [2:50:41, 2:50:42]: Coming and asking. [2:50:42, 2:50:45]: Us the neighbors that paid [2:50:46, 2:50:48]: out of my pocket that I'm paying for now. [2:50:48, 2:50:50]: For a three hundred thousand dollar house. [2:50:51, 2:50:51]: So [2:50:52, 2:50:54]: Listen to us. [2:50:54, 2:51:01]: Give us an opportunity to hear what they got. I'm just not hearing about widening one thirty-eight, forty-two, I'm the the island. [2:51:02, 2:51:03]: I'm just not hearing that. [2:51:04, 2:51:07]: Do I have to come to a zoning meeting, Miss Work? [2:51:07, 2:51:12]: To come to a zoning meeting to hear all this, or is there gonna be a way for you all to get the information out to us? [2:51:13, 2:51:19]: But it's not good living in a neighborhood and paying taxes for a house that we're not getting the information on what's going on. [2:51:20, 2:51:22]: These people are already running down the road. [2:51:22, 2:51:24]: coming through and driving through my yard. [2:51:25, 2:51:26]: А пайфойд. [2:51:27, 2:51:29]: I shouldn't have to repair my own yard. [2:51:30, 2:51:33]: They promised me that they were gonna come and do it at the water to company. [2:51:33, 2:51:34]: And they never did. [2:51:35, 2:51:37]: So my thing to this company is to this panel is [2:51:38, 2:51:47]: Just act on the things that we've asked and that's been signed on petition that Miss Barber is trying to get across to you all that you all think is not necessary. [2:51:48, 2:51:51]: But if it was going on in your neighborhood, you'll be in my shoes. [2:51:52, 2:52:01]: All we ask is listen to her talking to us to get the information out to them on what would be suitable for us to be able to see this. [2:52:02, 2:52:03]: But the traffic [2:52:03, 2:52:04]: is gonna be horrible. [2:52:05, 2:52:09]: Y'all don't want us to talk, Mr. Albizan don't want to talk about it. It's the city's situation. [2:52:10, 2:52:11]: Лес фикс та проблем. [2:52:11, 2:52:14]: that we already have in order to bring in more. [2:52:16, 2:52:17]: I just look at it that [2:52:18, 2:52:19]: If y'all want to communicate [2:52:20, 2:52:31]: Get the information out. And let me remind everybody when you come before the poll, make sure you address the chair, which is me, please. Next next uh resident. Name and address and three minute timeline, frame, please. [2:52:36, 2:52:38]: All right, qu go ahead, ma'am. Go ahead speak, please. [2:52:39, 2:52:41]: Mary Fox, two seventy Shields Road. [2:52:41, 2:52:42]: I'm also on my lunch break. [2:52:43, 2:52:45]: Um basically I want to paraphrase. [2:52:46, 2:52:47]: I'm not here because I want [2:52:47, 2:52:49]: The traffic situation to be fixed. [2:52:50, 2:52:53]: Бо да із а ситі інфраструктура респалі. [2:52:54, 2:52:55]: It is bad right now. [2:52:56, 2:52:58]: It seems very straightforward to me. [2:52:59, 2:53:03]: That if you're increasing the population by a high density development. [2:53:03, 2:53:06]: А проблем да урейдис канат хеп. [2:53:07, 2:53:08]: But B [2:53:09, 2:53:11]: continued and exacerbated. [2:53:11, 2:53:14]: It's very simple. Don't make it high density. [2:53:15, 2:53:16]: We're not I'm not saying [2:53:16, 2:53:22]: And I think many of us are, even though we would like it in a perfect world, we're not saying fix the traffic. [2:53:23, 2:53:26]: But it's very obvious how you don't make it worse. [2:53:27, 2:53:28]: It's very simple. [2:53:28, 2:53:30]: And I had a question. [2:53:30, 2:53:32]: That's one issue. I had a question. [2:53:32, 2:53:36]: А референс войд та аксес. [2:53:37, 2:53:39]: Ас ан партиал експлуашен. [2:53:40, 2:53:42]: For why it cannot be [2:53:42, 2:53:44]: developed as single family. [2:53:46, 2:53:48]: Homes, but it can be [2:53:49, 2:53:49]: As [2:53:50, 2:53:57]: High density homes. I don't understand how you can develop it for a lot of people, but you can't develop it for [2:53:58, 2:54:00]: of lower density of population. [2:54:02, 2:54:05]: But that is my my point is that [2:54:05, 2:54:09]: If you don't fix the situation, and I'm not here to talk about traffic. [2:54:10, 2:54:10]: Clearly [2:54:11, 2:54:12]: It [2:54:12, 2:54:14]: Will make it worse. [2:54:14, 2:54:18]: if you approve it for high density, and whose responsibility is that? [2:54:19, 2:54:23]: Is it a judge's to decide on the density of the the zoning? [2:54:24, 2:54:25]: Or is it ours here? [2:54:29, 2:54:34]: We we'll handle it here, ma'am. Is that your last comment? That's it? Yes, sir. Okay. Stop the clock please, Ms uh [2:54:36, 2:54:40]: Um holida. Next next gentleman, come on up, please, sir. Name and address. [2:54:41, 2:54:48]: Council, you don't know I'd like to give this gentleman at least his three minute time frame since he seems to be the last one on the on the last one on this one uh [2:54:48, 2:54:53]: My name's Robert Schuel. Live at two fifty three Shields Road. Thank you. Go ahead for [2:54:53, 2:54:54]: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. [2:54:56, 2:55:08]: Like uh Mary just said, they're saying that nobody's gonna buy that property and put single family ho ho homes on there, but they're gonna put a hundred and seventy, but to do that they gotta get a variance. [2:55:09, 2:55:15]: I don't wanna see the variance in there. Either lower the amount of houses on there, keep the fifty feet. [2:55:16, 2:55:26]: we're taking away the green space. The water comes a lot of the water comes down across my property uh right now. And I'm afraid there's gonna be more of that. [2:55:26, 2:55:29]: The second thing I don't see on there is you've got one entrance. [2:55:30, 2:55:50]: And one exit coming out of there. You've got 170 houses, say two cars per house, possibly. Look at all those vehicles that are gonna be shooting out of there, out of one entrance. Can't they put another entrance that shoots over to Valley Hill? That would be that would be something that I would like to see. That and meet. [2:55:50, 2:55:56]: Medium density. Uh don't go with the tight density. That's all I have to say. [2:55:56, 2:56:00]: Oh thank you, so I appreciate it. Thank you. Okay. Now I'm gonna go back. [2:56:00, 2:56:03]: In reference to four this was against in reference to four. [2:56:04, 2:56:05]: Last time four. [2:56:05, 2:56:06]: Open it back up. [2:56:07, 2:56:08]: My left side. [2:56:08, 2:56:09]: Over here. [2:56:09, 2:56:10]: Four. [2:56:10, 2:56:11]: No one four. [2:56:11, 2:56:12]: In the middle. [2:56:13, 2:56:14]: If you're four, come on up. [2:56:15, 2:56:20]: And see the gentleman right there, just stand right there in the aisle. Okay. Anybody else? Four from the middle. [2:56:20, 2:56:29]: Four uh uh over here in my far right. Okay, seems like only one. Come on, sir. You name and address and you get three minutes. [2:56:31, 2:56:32]: Madam Curt, please. [2:56:32, 2:56:36]: Good evening, Mr. Mayor and City Council members. My name is Richard Ordones. [2:56:37, 2:56:56]: My wife Reba Smith Ordonis and I have lived down the street on one 12-man boulevard in District 4 for 30 years. Reba grew up at 576 Davis Road on the property being discussed tonight, of which she and her family she and her siblings still own. This evening I am speaking on behalf of her and her family. [2:56:56, 2:57:02]: Our family has deep roots in Stockbridge. Our father originally purchased his property in nineteen fifty and raised us there. [2:57:03, 2:57:09]: We understand change can be hard as we have seen a lot change in the area over the last seventy-three years. [2:57:09, 2:57:17]: Stockbridge has grown to be a welcoming and enjoyable place to live. Our parents even donated a part of their land as they felt was their civic duty. [2:57:17, 2:57:22]: So Davis Road could be paved and used to the advantage of the residents and the future of our city. [2:57:23, 2:57:26]: This was their home and they would do what they could for family. [2:57:26, 2:57:28]: Friends and the neighborhood. [2:57:28, 2:57:30]: That's what a community is all about. [2:57:31, 2:57:34]: Імажі фору фай хомс. [2:57:34, 2:57:35]: On Davis Road. [2:57:36, 2:57:39]: And one home and several chicken houses with hundreds of [2:57:40, 2:57:44]: With chicken houses with hundreds of chickens on Shields Road seven decades ago. [2:57:45, 2:57:47]: Stockbridge went from dirt roads [2:57:48, 2:57:51]: One caution light and only several homes on our street. [2:57:51, 2:58:00]: To the influx of new residents, businesses, paved roads, and the existence of Interstates 75 and 675. [2:58:00, 2:58:03]: as well as the bridge on North Henry Boulevard. [2:58:04, 2:58:06]: We grew up watching the transformation of our city. [2:58:06, 2:58:08]: Від ню трейло парк с кросса стріт. [2:58:09, 2:58:13]: Then next door to us, as well as new homes going up and down Davis Road. [2:58:13, 2:58:15]: And the surrounding countryside. [2:58:15, 2:58:19]: To the addition of multiple duplexes on Century Oaks Court. [2:58:20, 2:58:23]: These changes and developments had major impacts on our lives. [2:58:23, 2:58:26]: We were farmers and had various farm animals throughout the decades. [2:58:27, 2:58:31]: We had to contend with these changes and its effect on us and our livestock. [2:58:31, 2:58:34]: However, this was our home and we adjusted. [2:58:35, 2:58:37]: We adjusted to all these changes and [2:58:37, 2:58:41]: And welcomed our new neighbors over the decades as a community should. [2:58:41, 2:58:44]: Communities thrive with new homes and new businesses. [2:58:45, 2:58:49]: Adjustments are sometimes necessary but can be made for the benefit of all. [2:58:53, 2:59:03]: With new growth like the amphitheater, Stockbridge Police Department, and continued enhancements to our parks comes increased costs as well as traffic flow considerations. [2:59:04, 2:59:09]: It is our hope that the development of our property will allow for a quality community to be built. [2:59:09, 2:59:13]: That will not only allow more individuals and families to move to Stockbridge. [2:59:14, 2:59:18]: But also provide additional revenues to support the continued growth of our beloved city. [2:59:19, 2:59:23]: As a family, we do not have an interest in developing this property ourselves. [2:59:23, 2:59:25]: This process has been a long one. [2:59:26, 2:59:31]: And the plan before you is the result of a collaborative effort between the applicant and stakeholders in the city. [2:59:32, 2:59:35]: I know our coun our councilwoman, Miss Barber. [2:59:35, 2:59:39]: Would agree that Stockbridge is a wonderful place to live and raise a family. [2:59:39, 2:59:45]: And as the city's mayor pro temp, I know she stands ready to serve and represent all of her constituents. [2:59:45, 2:59:47]: In her district, as well as residents of Stockbridge. [2:59:48, 2:59:49]: We appreciate this. [2:59:50, 2:59:52]: And are here tonight as your constituents. [2:59:52, 2:59:53]: And neighbors. [2:59:54, 2:59:57]: To ask this council for your support and approval of this project. [2:59:58, 3:00:01]: Thank you for the opportunity to present our family. [3:00:02, 3:00:03]: Our history in Stockbridge. [3:00:04, 3:00:11]: and our desire to see our parents' land and legacy be used for the continued growth and success of the city of Stockbridge. [3:00:12, 3:00:19]: Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Thank you. Okay, ladies and gentlemen, that we got four and against. I'm now gonna close the public hearing. All right. [3:00:19, 3:00:24]: Now it comes down to point unless there are any last little comments from the council. I'm like Yes sir. [3:00:25, 3:00:27]: Yeah, I just wanna make this comment. Um [3:00:29, 3:00:35]: Because I'm I'm hearing that you got people that are not against it, um and it wasn't informed. [3:00:36, 3:00:40]: That can be taken care of when you talk about infrastructure. There's a plan in place. [3:00:41, 3:00:42]: We talk about concerns. [3:00:43, 3:00:45]: Well there's something was passed around by speed bumps. [3:00:46, 3:00:50]: If you all sign a petition for speed bumps, I'm promising you this. [3:00:51, 3:00:53]: If you sign a petition for speed box. [3:00:54, 3:00:56]: And everything is lined up in order. [3:00:56, 3:01:02]: Your district representative, no matter what district you're in, can make that happen. It doesn't have to be here. [3:01:03, 3:01:06]: It can be behind closed doors. They can make that happen. [3:01:06, 3:01:17]: Because there's a process that you do, and once you do that process, you hold us accountable for making that process that you did come to fruition. It can happen. [3:01:18, 3:01:19]: We can't b [3:01:20, 3:01:22]: My biggest concern is here. [3:01:22, 3:01:24]: Із данs [3:01:25, 3:01:30]: The concerns and conditions have all been satisfied. [3:01:30, 3:01:35]: with this. I didn't talk to the developer one time because I leave that to the district. [3:01:36, 3:01:37]: Um [3:01:37, 3:01:39]: Uh who whoever's over whatever district. [3:01:40, 3:01:41]: When development is coming to the area. [3:01:43, 3:01:44]: But when you have [3:01:45, 3:01:49]: Conditions asked for and they're done. [3:01:50, 3:01:53]: It handcuffs us, it handcuffs me. [3:01:54, 3:01:55]: And making a decision. [3:01:56, 3:01:59]: Будис бюстин ассві. [3:02:01, 3:02:11]: You don't add water and something happen, but if you're doing something in the right way, if you want speed bumps and I think it's sixty percent of the community or homeowners say they want it, and everything is done to petition. [3:02:12, 3:02:14]: А промісю, і кін хапи. [3:02:16, 3:02:19]: And if you do it the right way, I'm not in your district. [3:02:19, 3:02:22]: Write all of us and say John Blount told a lie. [3:02:24, 3:02:24]: Mm-hmm. [3:02:25, 3:02:31]: But I'm trying to tell you things that you want in your community, if it's done the right way, it happens. [3:02:32, 3:02:43]: But I don't sit with developers if I don't want that development to ask them for any conditions or anything to happen or or any compromises. And that's what I'm I'm dealing with right here. [3:02:45, 3:02:51]: All right. We've had a lot of discussion. Yes. I'm gonna go Mr. Thomas. Go ahead, sir. [3:02:51, 3:02:52]: Thank you. [3:02:52, 3:02:53]: Um [3:02:53, 3:02:59]: I want the the citizen here to know that I I I grew up here in the city of Stockbridge and [3:02:59, 3:03:19]: I know quite a few residents in that area, and you all may know Mrs. I still call her Mrs. Mays. She's Mrs. Cobb, uh, Mr. John Mosley, Mr. Don Gordon. But I've known Mrs. Mays for for many, many, many years. And and I have worked with a number of citizens. [3:03:19, 3:03:31]: in that area uh on many concerns. So I do sympathize uh with this particular neighborhood. And I and I just want to commend you. [3:03:31, 3:03:34]: for doing what you do because [3:03:35, 3:03:39]: This is what I encourage citizens to do all the time. [3:03:39, 3:03:43]: to come forward and let your voices be heard. [3:03:44, 3:03:45]: Because [3:03:45, 3:03:50]: Even though we have just gone into the districts in January. [3:03:51, 3:03:53]: But we represent this whole city. [3:03:55, 3:03:56]: I would [3:03:56, 3:03:57]: I would've you know [3:03:58, 3:04:05]: I don't have a problem in that council person who represent that district to lead that discussion. [3:04:05, 3:04:08]: But I'm concerned about this whole city. [3:04:09, 3:04:18]: And when you all come out as citizens, and like you say, I grew up here, I've heard, you know, you you've been here thirty years, twenty-five years, et cetera. [3:04:18, 3:04:20]: That means a lot to me. [3:04:20, 3:04:28]: That means a lot to me. And so make no mistake and don't be discouraged about not coming. [3:04:28, 3:04:44]: and raising your voice here, signing petitions. I commend y'all continue to do that and and and I hear you. I hear you. Even though it's not my particular district, but we all here have to vote. So [3:04:44, 3:04:46]: I'm about this whole city. [3:04:47, 3:04:54]: I I don't have a fragmented vote. When I vote, I vote for the total city. [3:04:54, 3:04:59]: and what is good for the total city. And what is good for one particular neighborhood. [3:05:00, 3:05:17]: It's good for another neighborhood. So again, I I just want to thank you all for coming and continue to come. Don't shy away, don't hesitate. Whatever that decision is here, you continue to let your voices be heard because that's what you're supposed to do. Because all my life [3:05:17, 3:05:23]: I've I've I've haven't always been on this side. I've been on that side as well. And trust me. [3:05:24, 3:05:26]: My voice was heard and [3:05:26, 3:05:28]: And I just again thank you for coming. [3:05:30, 3:05:46]: A couple of points. I have a couple of comments and it is customary to allow the applicant to respond to some of the concerns now they've heard them. But I did I'm a little I just want to understand something. You s sir, you spoke for the group, but this is the entire family here? [3:05:47, 3:05:52]: No, this is not the entire not the entire family, but this is the family members. [3:05:53, 3:05:54]: Okay. [3:05:56, 3:05:57]: Mm-hmm. [3:05:57, 3:06:07]: I just wanna understand who we're speaking for. Okay, we're gonna we're gonna make this a deception. So could you come back to the podium please? [3:06:12, 3:06:15]: Okay, uh better yet? Okay. Let's we'll stop right there. [3:06:15, 3:06:28]: Do counsel, do you would you like for him to come back and and speak and finish his comments? I'm fine with that. Thank you for asking, Mayor. Yes. Thank you. Go ahead, please, sir. Sir, I just wanna understand. You you you here are you here alone or you sir other people here with you? [3:06:28, 3:06:29]: I [3:06:29, 3:06:49]: I married into the family that owned the property, my wife, Reba, her sister-in-law, her husband, and two of the two of the um children of of another owner, Mr. Ralph Smith, who is deceased, and then there's another member of the family who owned the property. There were four children in the property. And excuse me. [3:06:49, 3:07:09]: They're all scattered throughout Stockbridge, but um they have lived here all their lives. They grew up on that property. Okay. I mean just forever, it seems like. I I just wanted to understand that you know we had the for and against, we had a bunch of people here, but they didn't get up. So you you but you you spoke in in reference to for the family. [3:07:09, 3:07:29]: because we wanted just one presentation. We know it would be a little overwhelming and stuff, but they all support what I said and they all support the sale and the property of this property. And they all support this community. They support what's going on in this community, what's been going on in this community. We appreciate what the council has done as far as fixing roads, traffic concerns, what you're doing down the road here. [3:07:29, 3:07:49]: You know, that the changes, the additions, all of this is important to us because we've lived here or they've lived here all their lives. I've been here for 30 years, you know, just down the street at Man Boulevard. So we've seen a lot of the changes and we appreciate the changes. We understand there's situations when you have changes that we need to [3:07:49, 3:08:09]: To come together as a council, as a community, and fix these changes and grow for us. This is us, this is who we are, this is you who you are. And we all believe in these things together. And to make something like this go forward, we believe is going to be beneficial. But not only is it beneficial to the city as far as financial and more people coming into the city and [3:08:09, 3:08:24]: Going to these new places you propose as far as these businesses that you want to bring into the city that you mentioned. We need people to come in here and be a part of that and support these businesses. But not only that, but it's a legacy to my wife and her family. [3:08:24, 3:08:44]: This is their home. This is where they grew up. Seventy-three years ago, her father bought the property and they've been here ever since. Thank you. I appreciate those uh comments. Uh and sir, thank you very much. What's the other concern, sir? Uh the other the other one I just wanted to say to the gentleman who said I didn't care about the traffic. That's not true. [3:08:44, 3:09:04]: What I said was we couldn't make that determination inside the decision that we were making. I've been on trying to pursue$750 million in improvements since the day I was elected to try to widen every road around here. Unfortunately, we can't widen all of them, and some of them have to be prioritized. [3:09:04, 3:09:24]: But certainly Davis Road should uh go on that list uh in order to prove it and to make it, but we cannot place that burden upon the developer at this particular point. But what I would like to see or hear is it's customary for the applicant to come back up. They've made some uh they've made some [3:09:24, 3:09:35]: some assertions. So uh would you there maybe there's some answers for some of those assertions. All right come on back up Mr. um back Brock. I'm sorry, Mr. Brock, please. [3:09:39, 3:09:44]: Mayor, members of the council, thank you for uh allowing me a rebuttal. Uh [3:09:45, 3:09:53]: I was trying to take notes as much as I could during uh the public comment. So I'd like to address uh there's some underlying themes I'd like to address one at a time. [3:09:54, 3:10:14]: Uh the first was notification. Uh Mayor Pro Tem Barber mentioned that as well. Uh why we only identified the properties adjacent to us. That is required by the Stockbridge UDC to send out uh notifications to the property owners uh abutting the property. When we held the community meeting, we followed those same requirements, even though we were not required to hold that meeting or [3:10:14, 3:10:25]: To send out notifications, uh, we had to follow some sort of guidelines of who to notify, otherwise it would have been an arbitrary decision to either expand or contract that uh uh [3:10:25, 3:10:30]: the the properties that were notified. Uh so we did follow some guidelines to that. [3:10:31, 3:10:32]: Uh [3:10:33, 3:10:53]: High density. Uh there was some uh a couple of comments from the public that uh they supported the uh development, but not at high density. Uh they wanted to see medium density. I'd like to reiterate our proposed density is six point one eight units per acre. Uh again, there's a quirk in the UDC that limits medium density for [3:10:53, 3:11:06]: From two to three point six, and then there's a gap until six. In order to drop that to just below six units per acre, we would drop from 170 to 165 units. That's that's a drop of five units. Uh in our uh [3:11:08, 3:11:28]: Revisiting a re redesign of the project throughout uh this process since last August, last October, when we submit these applications. We have taken a very sharp look at how we can reduce the units, and that's how we've come to the 170 that we're at tonight. We're not asking asking to max out the density of the [3:11:28, 3:11:39]: Development at 16 units per acre or anything even close to that. We're at the very bottom limit of the high density residential. Um, and that again is just due to the quirk uh of how the [3:11:39, 3:11:42]: Comprehensive plane defines high density, medium density, residential. [3:11:44, 3:12:04]: Uh traffic improvements and also uh the request to postpone this meeting. Um these kind of go hand in hand. There's a number of uh comments regarding the improvement of the intersection of Davis and Shields Road. Again, that is a system improvement. Uh as it was noted, uh these uh uh [3:12:04, 3:12:24]: Issues have been present in the past long before we submitted this application, long before we've uh came along for this development. It is an existing problem with the community, but it's something that the city must handle. It is a system improvement. We can control what's in front of our property. We are improving Davis Road in front of our property. [3:12:24, 3:12:33]: We're adding a left turn lane, we're adding uh deacceleration lanes to facilitate traffic movement along the front edge of our property, but we cannot we have no authority to [3:12:33, 3:12:35]: uh improve anything outside of that. [3:12:37, 3:12:37]: Uh [3:12:39, 3:12:59]: Some of the other uh reasons that were brought up uh uh with these traffic improvements, Mayor Pro Tem Bar uh Barber mentioned that she wanted a commitment from this from the city on some of these system improvements uh uh so that in the future these these issues are corrected and asked us to postpone in order to make a decision on that. Uh [3:12:59, 3:13:19]: She also asked us to postpone while the city looks at the uh rewriting of the comprehensive uh plan. Both those uh asks are very long-term. Uh staff got up earlier and mentioned that the comprehensive plan is at least six to eight months out. I think that's a very conservative estimate. Uh most municipalities. [3:13:19, 3:13:21]: Most jurisdictions take longer than that to the [3:13:21, 3:13:41]: Both draft and adopt a new comprehensive plan update. Uh these traffic improvements are likely more years out. Uh so postponing the meeting for 30 days would not have have solved any of these issues. We've been in talks with the city since August on our design on [3:13:41, 3:14:01]: And what we can do to address some of the concerns that the city has. We feel that we have tried to address all the concerns as best as we can. Other concerns that you've heard tonight came up at the Planning Commission meeting two weeks ago. But again, a lot of those are system improvements that we have no control over. [3:14:01, 3:14:17]: Um so with that, uh the staff has recommended approval of this application, Planning Commission recommended approval of this application. We we recommend that you uh approve as well. Thank you. All right, just your last question, sir. Um Ms. Thompson go ahead, Ms. Thompson. Um [3:14:18, 3:14:26]: I just want to ask this question because it seems that with both sides the issue is density. Um [3:14:27, 3:14:30]: Are the developers willing to [3:14:31, 3:14:36]: from high to medium, i are you are willing to even consider the density issue? [3:14:37, 3:14:53]: I know I know you just spoke on it, but I just wanted to ask this question. Again, it through our redesign of the property, we've dropped it as much as we can uh down to one seventy. Uh in order to get below the six units per acre, we would have to drop it another five units. Um [3:14:54, 3:15:14]: I don't know what that solves for the city. Again, that wouldn't fit us into the medium density residential, which is capped at 3.6 units per acre. Uh, that would not make development of this property feasible. When you say feasible, it's so it's really about finances. Well, the cost that goes into improving the property versus um in the cost of the land versus [3:15:13, 3:15:27]: versus what uh uh we would be able to develop it for. Uh we would not be able to uh market the property uh uh if we were had if we had to drop it down to three point six or two two units per acre. [3:15:28, 3:15:32]: Okay. Well that that that's sort of my concern'cause that's [3:15:32, 3:15:45]: My role here is to try to satisfy the citizen and move the city forward as well. And it seems that both sides will be okay [3:15:46, 3:15:47]: Uh if we could [3:15:48, 3:16:03]: uh do something about the density issue. And so that's sort of where I am. And and maybe Mrs. Cart, maybe that conversation could could go a little deeper with that. [3:16:03, 3:16:08]: This may not be the proper platform to get into that discussion, but [3:16:08, 3:16:10]: If we could [3:16:10, 3:16:14]: compromise on that, I I think we can sort of get this done. [3:16:15, 3:16:35]: I'm um so then I'll be brief. So the comprehensive plan, the reason why we're going through the update this year is because we do realize we do have some issues there that have just been in play the last, you know, five years. We want to make sure that we create a density that is um [3:16:35, 3:16:55]: It more in tune with what the city, what range the city wants to go in, what other cities, our size and type of infrastructure it will go into. And yes, I do agree as a professional planner that having a high density that starts at six units per acre and up leaves you with. [3:16:54, 3:17:14]: Very little to do as far as high density, but then even more so, the medium density only ending at 3.6 units is is a little bit tight and something for us to look at. For clarification, the applicant was required of the Planning Commission to have their meeting with the community. [3:17:14, 3:17:34]: That was a requirement per the Planning Commission. So it it wasn't something they did on their own. It was a requirement to move forward before this hearing. So yes, there are options that the council has. We will work through the changes for the comprehensive plan. [3:17:34, 3:17:45]: over the next six months. That will be adopted by the Planning Commission and the City Council by October of this year, which is required as a state mandate for us. [3:17:46, 3:17:50]: So uh you have the option to cap the density. [3:17:50, 3:17:56]: You have that option because high density goes up to sixteen units. It is at the discretion of the council. [3:17:56, 3:18:05]: to cap it at a certain density, at the requested or another, what whatever you all have the desire to do. And that's how you manage the density piece. [3:18:07, 3:18:10]: Good. I'm I'm gonna make sure Mr. Thomas is done. [3:18:11, 3:18:31]: Am um I I'm still I'm still not at that point because again I I I'm trying to get to a resolution and and and what I fear from the group and both sides is that if we could get to that density issue, the compromise, I I I think we can sort of go forward. But based on what [3:18:31, 3:18:37]: When I'm here and I don't think we're there, okay well we we may have a resolution. [3:18:39, 3:18:44]: M Mayor Ford. Go right here, sir. I w I will yield to to the gentleman. Okay, Mr. Brock. [3:18:45, 3:18:59]: Yes, after uh conferring with uh four star you know, we're immutable if uh this body would like to add a condition to cap the density at six units per acre. Uh that would be what's comparable to what I believe what the city is proposing for medium density under their comprehensive plan rewrite. [3:19:00, 3:19:02]: Okay. So Mayor Ford, so [3:19:02, 3:19:07]: I was gonna say, so if you go six units, what does that give the total amount of units for the for the project? [3:19:09, 3:19:29]: What may have four. 164. All right, go ahead. So I I I wanted to know then what what would the uh citizens saw to be satisfied with that? And I guess I wanted to try to get some vibration from the citizen. Well cause that seemed to be a compromise. [3:19:29, 3:19:49]: see how I could make my vote. Yeah, we t we're getting they're just they're just my position. Okay, got it. I appreciate it. Yes, sir. Well so technically where we at Miss uh Miss Carter, will you come back can we get Miss Carter come back to the podium? Um Bracker. Oh I did see I didn't see you John [3:19:49, 3:19:50]: You talking weight. [3:19:51, 3:19:57]: Go ahead, Ms. Stand by. Mr. stand by. Okay, no problem. Ms. Carter, stay there. Go ahead, Mr. Blount. [3:19:57, 3:20:00]: M Ms Carter, so it was at sixteen. [3:20:01, 3:20:14]: It's sixteen is what what was allowed and you and we gotta work on that. And you guys brought it down to six points something. And the reason that they fell into that category is because high density starts at six units to the acre and goes all the way up to sixteen. [3:20:15, 3:20:26]: Where in most jurisdictions it's considered a medium density instead of high density. So if you bring it down to six, then that's the third compromise on how many units you're building. Is that correct? [3:20:27, 3:20:29]: Right. It will be. [3:20:30, 3:20:30]: Yeah. [3:20:32, 3:20:37]: Okay. Sir. So technically the city code says six point one [3:20:39, 3:20:40]: Well how density is a six. [3:20:41, 3:20:54]: Well, it starts at six and goes up to sixteen units, say. So the six point one does fall within high density residential. The six is does the six fall into high density or it does. Uh but what we would likely do is [3:20:54, 3:21:14]: per per the process for the comprehensive plan amendment is look at that and s and probably we would likely cap it at six for medium density and then anything beyond that. So so okay, okay. I'm I was a little confused. So once the change is made, six will actually be medium density? That is a possibility. That's up to the council to approve that we don't look at [3:21:14, 3:21:34]: Be customary to what surrounding jurisdictions are doing. Correct. It would be. So in other words, what you're saying is our high density is really very low compared to the Yes, it's the limit is low. The the top of it is, you know, considerable, but um starting at six for high density. [3:21:34, 3:21:37]: density is pretty low. [3:21:37, 3:21:56]: Okay, so th as Mr. Blount said, so this will be a third cut in the number of units. So they went from what, two fifty two thirty five two thirty five to one hundred seventy that's being presented tonight and now one sixty four if the cap is at the six units to the acre. And you're okay with the cap, sir. Y'all are okay with the cap? [3:21:56, 3:21:57]: Okay. [3:22:00, 3:22:06]: It just to clarify, yeah, six units to the acre. Six units to the acre. However many that comes out to be. Whatever it comes out to be. [3:22:07, 3:22:13]: Which I believe may be one sixty five, but so that's an additional cut. Uh that's an additional cut, right? [3:22:15, 3:22:16]: Okay, I'm done. [3:22:18, 3:22:20]: Ms you just good. Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [3:22:20, 3:22:21]: Thank you. [3:22:22, 3:22:24]: Just for public knowledge. [3:22:26, 3:22:30]: This proposal we have to consider it based on [3:22:30, 3:22:31]: A current. [3:22:31, 3:22:33]: Plan, is that correct, Miss Carter? [3:22:35, 3:22:38]: Thank you. If you'll take the microphone because I have a couple of questions. [3:22:38, 3:22:39]: That I need for you to confirm. [3:22:41, 3:22:46]: So one to two units per acre is what's considered low density. That's correct. [3:22:47, 3:22:53]: Two to three point six units is what we consider medium density. Yes. [3:22:55, 3:23:00]: Six to sixteen units per acre is what we consider high density. That's correct. [3:23:02, 3:23:03]: There is a gap. [3:23:03, 3:23:04]: And the gap is [3:23:05, 3:23:06]: Три посев юніт [3:23:07, 3:23:09]: To five point nine юніт про екер. [3:23:10, 3:23:11]: That is our gap. [3:23:12, 3:23:12]: Correct. [3:23:14, 3:23:16]: I want to make sure that the [3:23:17, 3:23:19]: Um developer understands. [3:23:20, 3:23:21]: It's between that gap. [3:23:22, 3:23:23]: Is what [3:23:24, 3:23:25]: The residents would like to see. [3:23:26, 3:23:30]: The three point seven units per acre is on the low end. [3:23:31, 3:23:33]: The five point nine units per acre. [3:23:33, 3:23:34]: Is on the high end. [3:23:35, 3:23:36]: Is the gap. [3:23:37, 3:23:37]: That gap. [3:23:38, 3:23:40]: Is what will satisfy [3:23:40, 3:23:41]: The residents here. [3:23:42, 3:23:44]: We have to consider your application. [3:23:44, 3:23:45]: Based on a current [3:23:46, 3:23:49]: The current plans that we have. [3:23:49, 3:23:53]: Not what staff is gonna bring to us in six, eight months. [3:23:54, 3:23:57]: And I don't want anybody to be confused leaving here. [3:23:58, 3:24:01]: So let's be let's be transparent about what we're doing here. [3:24:02, 3:24:02]: Um [3:24:06, 3:24:10]: The attorney he did not address or maybe I missed it. [3:24:10, 3:24:15]: He didn't address the back end of this development, nor did the [3:24:15, 3:24:20]: Homeowner, they didn't address the back end of this development that is unbable. [3:24:20, 3:24:21]: Is that correct? [3:24:22, 3:24:23]: Miss Carter, are you able to [3:24:25, 3:24:41]: Yes, the the rear of the property, um, the north arrows kinda if you tilt it up, then that's the north side, the northernmost part and what you see on your screen is the westernmost part, which there's a a major portion of the property that cannot be built within. [3:24:41, 3:24:47]: Okay. Can you tell why it cannot be built? Um there's floodplain and state borders. Thank you. [3:24:48, 3:25:05]: One of the other things with the clubhouse, I don't think they addressed the pool. With every new development coming to City Council District 4, I am gonna be asking for Clubhouse and Pool be included. [3:25:05, 3:25:05]: Um [3:25:07, 3:25:09]: He didn't address that. [3:25:09, 3:25:10]: Um [3:25:15, 3:25:21]: I will ask because we know just b it's just the four of us here who'll be voting today. [3:25:21, 3:25:24]: And just based on the conversations we've been having over an hour. [3:25:25, 3:25:28]: We're not gonna get the votes to support [3:25:29, 3:25:39]: Or deny. You don't know that until we take we take the actual vote, Mayor Pro Tem. We'll take an actual vote and then we'll find out for real. Based on the conversations that have been had here. [3:25:39, 3:25:43]: What I'd like to ask is that the developer [3:25:43, 3:25:44]: Um [3:25:44, 3:25:49]: Let's continue the discussions in regards to this proposed development. [3:25:49, 3:25:53]: Again, I support the redevelopment efforts of our city. [3:25:53, 3:25:59]: I just want to make sure that the residents um in the area who are in who will be [3:25:59, 3:26:00]: Impacted. [3:26:00, 3:26:02]: Um have a say so in this. [3:26:03, 3:26:06]: I cannot support it at this point, even with the [3:26:07, 3:26:09]: five unit reduction that you all just [3:26:10, 3:26:11]: Mentioned. [3:26:12, 3:26:13]: Ten. [3:26:13, 3:26:16]: Whatever it I can't support that. I'm sorry. [3:26:17, 3:26:18]: Okay, sir. [3:26:19, 3:26:21]: I'm sorry now? Yeah, good. You d you dumb Miss Marvel. [3:26:22, 3:26:24]: Let me just say this. [3:26:24, 3:26:27]: We started out at two hundred and something. [3:26:28, 3:26:48]: We got almost all the way to where you want to go. We're this close to where you want to go. There's not there's what to go below six, we talk about four or five more units basically, in order to go below six. We're at six. Now they've agreed to come all the way down from [3:26:48, 3:26:53]: from where they were to six at this point. Uh we agreeable with the pool. [3:26:56, 3:27:15]: Yes, we went back af after that was brought up uh last week or uh a few weeks ago we gotta have a pool. I can't vote for none without a pool. Yep. We have I was just gonna say that we went back and looked at our HOA cost, how much that would uh increase and we we can fit that in. We can add a pool. [3:27:17, 3:27:34]: I of this at this at this point it's just like again, we've asked for so much at this point and we've got all the way down to six. We've got a long way to go. But in the interim certainly that doesn't close the conversation, Mayor Pro Tem. The conversation can actually continue. [3:27:35, 3:27:50]: post today, even though i if we do decide to move forward we don't, but it just they I'm with Mayor I'm with Councilman Thomas. They've I I thought that's what the residents heard. I listened to what the residents said. I listened to what you said [3:27:50, 3:27:56]: We've gotten dramatic cuts already. We've gotten another what, nine, ten. How many is that? [3:27:56, 3:28:03]: Five units down to get below six. To get below I'm saying no, I'm saying we're at the six now. We went from one seventy five to one [3:28:04, 3:28:13]: One sixty five. One sixty five. So we just cut one seventy to one sixty five one seventy one seventy to one sixty five. Right. So now we d that got us down to six. [3:28:13, 3:28:16]: It just below six, yeah. Just b just [3:28:16, 3:28:27]: I guess fractions of a whatever ever below six. But it got you to below six. So it's kinda it's like, man, what else can we do? We got the pool. [3:28:28, 3:28:28]: Um [3:28:31, 3:28:51]: Besides no, sir, you're out of line. No, no, you gotta be quiet now. Because you can't talk from back there, sir. Let me say that let me say this as well. We're certainly committed to improving traffic in all of these areas. Certainly, I was went to every one of the meetings where GDOT was concerned in order to get highway four. [3:28:51, 3:29:05]: 42 widen and as a part of Highway 42 being widened, you know where that bottleneck is, right there beside Walmart. The road is actually gonna be moved. It's gonna be moved further to the um [3:29:06, 3:29:07]: Further to the north. [3:29:07, 3:29:20]: away from where that intersection is. So they won't be right there at the traffic light. That's a part of what one of the improvements. So that's one one of the things is gonna happen. The road is going to be moved over to the right hand side. [3:29:20, 3:29:35]: more toward away from that intersection so those two roads aren't close together so it will be easier to come out. I was at the zoning meeting because we asked for ten foot multi-use paths, we asked for new street lights, we asked for new um [3:29:36, 3:29:45]: Pope like the black signal holders that we have here at City Hall, we ask for those too. Those are the things that have gone forward in order to do that. I [3:29:45, 3:29:59]: At this point, I I don't know. I'm I'm I'm gonna le I I think that we should move forward with it at this point. And I you know, I was hesitant as in i but you know when Mayor uh Councilman Thomas said, you know, it's about the whole city. [3:29:59, 3:30:19]: It really is about the whole city. We want to be developer friendly or community business friendly and community friendly. We brought the two sides together. Nobody's ever gonna be happy a hundred and percent with what happens. I know they're not happy with going down to 165. I know y'all are not happy with uh [3:30:19, 3:30:26]: Uh at with one sixty five, but that's what compromise is all about. You gotta meet somewhere in the middle at some point. [3:30:26, 3:30:38]: I'm done. All right, so we pl had plenty of conversations already been noted. So on that note, uh need a motion uh to accept or or reject this um this proposal. [3:30:38, 3:30:39]: I need a motion. [3:30:40, 3:30:47]: Mayor Ford? Yes, Mayor. I'd like to make a motion to um table um this proposal. [3:30:49, 3:30:51]: Okay. Is there a second? [3:30:52, 3:30:53]: I second. [3:30:53, 3:30:56]: All right, it's been a second. All in favor, please indicate. [3:30:57, 3:30:59]: W qu what question do you have, sir? [3:30:59, 3:31:00]: So what to what date? [3:31:03, 3:31:04]: Thirty days. [3:31:07, 3:31:27]: It depends. Um I have to ask'em developers. I need to have a conversation. You can't have'em waiting indefinitely. How within sixty days. I'd like to table this proposal for sixty days to come back to the council um our July council meeting. [3:31:29, 3:31:47]: All right. Second up. Are they okay with that? Let's see if they no, we're in the middle of voting. We can ask for a discussion any time. We're in the middle of voting. I just want to know time out folks, time out. You're asking him to come back up to the podium to see. To ask whether they're okay with what you just asked for. Hold stand by. Stand by [3:31:47, 3:31:52]: We don't need to ask him if it's okay for us to table the item. [3:31:52, 3:31:53]: Stand by. [3:31:54, 3:31:59]: You you let's let's go through this again. You you're you made an amendment to your original proposal. [3:32:00, 3:32:04]: Right? State restates your amo uh amendment. [3:32:04, 3:32:08]: And with the title proposal, make sure we got a second and then we'll go into discussion. [3:32:10, 3:32:13]: Therefore it I'd like to make a motion. [3:32:13, 3:32:15]: To table item number nine. [3:32:16, 3:32:18]: The comprehensive plan amendment case number [3:32:18, 3:32:21]: CP dash two zero two two. [3:32:21, 3:32:22]: Dash zero six. [3:32:22, 3:32:26]: Consideration of a comprehensive plan amendment request [3:32:26, 3:32:30]: to assign the future land use designation of property located [3:32:30, 3:32:32]: At five seven six Davis Road. [3:32:33, 3:32:34]: Parcel. [3:32:34, 3:32:44]: Number S O five O one zero zero two zero zero zero to high density residential to allow for the construction of a town home development. [3:32:46, 3:32:47]: Okay, you have no days in that. [3:32:50, 3:32:54]: To be brought back to the council at our July council meeting. [3:32:56, 3:32:59]: All right. Is there a second to that motion? [3:33:01, 3:33:04]: Is there a second to that motion? [3:33:05, 3:33:07]: I hear no second. That the motion fails. [3:33:08, 3:33:09]: Mr. Alexander, you have something on your mind? [3:33:11, 3:33:31]: I just I I wanna know from Mayor Pro Tem, what is it that you wish to accomplish with the delay? What is it that you hope to accomplish in that time that you're asking for the delay, which you may be entitled to? What is it that you hope to accomplish additionally than what you already have? [3:33:32, 3:33:36]: That's a question for me. Can I answer Mayor Ford? Yes. Yes you can. Okay. [3:33:37, 3:33:39]: As I said at the beginning of the meeting. [3:33:39, 3:33:41]: I would like to allow more time. [3:33:42, 3:33:45]: Тю так вид олада хомор. [3:33:45, 3:33:46]: In the area. [3:33:47, 3:33:50]: So that they are aware of this proposed development. [3:33:51, 3:33:52]: We need their input. [3:33:54, 3:33:57]: І знову реазеновоти. [3:33:57, 3:34:01]: Those homeowners whose properties abut [3:34:01, 3:34:03]: This proposed development. [3:34:04, 3:34:05]: In century oh three [3:34:06, 3:34:10]: Duplex community, only the left side of the community was notified. [3:34:11, 3:34:13]: None of the homes on the right side. [3:34:15, 3:34:16]: So I would like [3:34:17, 3:34:17]: More time. [3:34:18, 3:34:20]: To communicate with those residents. [3:34:20, 3:34:23]: Who live in that area who's gonna be impacted by this. [3:34:24, 3:34:26]: That is a request that I made of the propos. [3:34:26, 3:34:28]: The developer [3:34:28, 3:34:29]: Last week. [3:34:29, 3:34:30]: And at the start of this meeting. [3:34:31, 3:34:40]: Thank you. Sir. Yes, go ahead, Mr. Sir. Let me so you have to understand they don't have to agree to that. That's not required in the code. [3:34:40, 3:34:53]: They um that's what I'm saying to you is that you you you're you they've complied with so many things that we asked for so far, and at this eleventh hour we're throwing up sixty more days to accomplish to accomplish [3:34:54, 3:34:58]: Um, you know, them waiting a little bit more time in order to [3:35:00, 3:35:20]: Inform more residents in the area when they've gone when they've gone above the standard that the city code requires in informing residents. There always can be more residents informed. But they've gone above and beyond that. They even though the the they agreed to have the town hall with the community, which I certainly would have asked. [3:35:20, 3:35:24]: for myself, that certainly wasn't a requirement as well. [3:35:24, 3:35:34]: I don't mind waiting more time if there is a reason to a want so what if more residents come forward and say, you know, we don't wanna that's not gonna change the density count. [3:35:35, 3:35:44]: But if residents come forward and say, We do want it. That's not gonna change the density count. And that may not. Um, I wanna hear concerns of [3:35:45, 3:35:46]: All of the residents [3:35:47, 3:35:50]: actually who live along Davis Road and Shills Road, but I know I'm not gonna get that. [3:35:51, 3:35:59]: There are still some discussions that I want to have with the developer. When you talk about a high density development, [3:35:59, 3:36:03]: I think in terms of multiple entrance and exit points. [3:36:04, 3:36:08]: And I'm not satisfied with what they have proposed. [3:36:08, 3:36:12]: We already know that there's gonna be a traffic build up. [3:36:12, 3:36:13]: At the stop sign. [3:36:14, 3:36:15]: That is misaligned. [3:36:16, 3:36:17]: We already know that. [3:36:17, 3:36:29]: We need multiple entrance and exit points, and I'm not satisfied with what this development or these developers have suggested. [3:36:30, 3:36:35]: And I know one of the entrance and exit points they're relying on um the easement. [3:36:35, 3:36:38]: uh the property owner next door, they may not get it. [3:36:39, 3:36:59]: So I want to continue the conversations with the developer. Again, for the record, I support revitalization and redevelopment of our entire city, but I also support smart growth. Thank you. I need a motion to approve or dery so we can move on to [3:36:59, 3:37:05]: The next topic. I need emotion, folks. We've had plenty of discussion for a long time. Man, let me just say this. [3:37:06, 3:37:06]: Please. [3:37:07, 3:37:08]: We just sat here. [3:37:11, 3:37:16]: Whether they put a pool on this property or not has nothing to do with traffic. [3:37:18, 3:37:31]: But it was just asked for. Yeah. Another condition that was just asked for that has nothing to do with how people go in the property or out the property. This is what I keep saying that bothers me. [3:37:32, 3:37:38]: We keep asking this developer for s for to do something and they say, okay, and now what's the next thing? [3:37:39, 3:37:44]: We just sit here and ask the developer for a pool and he said okay. [3:37:46, 3:37:48]: And now we talk about traffic. [3:37:49, 3:37:51]: А та адо а донґет з процес. [3:37:52, 3:37:54]: I don't get this process. [3:37:55, 3:38:05]: Mayor. I need a motion. Mayor, let me do this. Let me do this. Let me make the motion. I'm gonna make a motion to approve the request. [3:38:06, 3:38:10]: based on the six that we have agreed down to [3:38:11, 3:38:14]: With the condition that the developer continue the discussions. [3:38:15, 3:38:19]: with Mayor Pro Team Barber on her outstanding issues. [3:38:19, 3:38:39]: In order to move forward. So the conversation would not close tonight. They will be required to continue talking with Councilwoman Mayor Pro Tem Barber as well. The pool will be required as one of the conditions to move forward with this development. And I'm with you. [3:38:39, 3:38:43]: Mr. Bond at this point. I'm I I wanted to be so f so badly. [3:38:43, 3:39:03]: Wanted to be able to say the district council member, Council Thomas said, you know, it's about the whole city. And in the end, this is the best compromise for the entire city. Because I certainly don't want it on tape when we've already said fifty times that these these requirements we that that are per common upon the city, we demand [3:39:03, 3:39:10]: And them are the developer. They said no, they should they didn't have to. But I want to go ahead and make that motion to move. [3:39:12, 3:39:20]: Mr. Alexander made a motion. Mr. Blount seconded a motion. I want to make sure that uh I mean uh Madam Clerk, I I hope that you got this correct. [3:39:21, 3:39:22]: New mayor. [3:39:22, 3:39:24]: Okay. Yeah. [3:39:24, 3:39:25]: Go ahead. [3:39:26, 3:39:28]: You good? I'm good, hey. [3:39:29, 3:39:31]: All in favor of motion, please indicate. [3:39:33, 3:39:34]: Opposed. [3:39:36, 3:39:42]: Wait a minute, Thomas Asian? I'm I'm in favor. You're in favor? Okay, so motion of all opposed. [3:39:45, 3:39:45]: Miss Barber? [3:39:47, 3:39:57]: Motion passed. Okay? Let's move on to the next item. The development will go on under the conditions that was stated. [3:39:57, 3:39:58]: All right. [3:39:58, 3:40:01]: Item number ten, rezoning case. By the way. [3:40:01, 3:40:02]: Thank you, everybody. [3:40:02, 3:40:06]: Okay. Can we take a break? Can we take a short break? I gotta use the restroom. [3:40:08, 3:40:28]: No let's we need we uh go ahead go ahead go ahead and use the restroom. We gotta move on. We've been down here this is long enough. Item number ten rezoning case RZ two zero two two two dash zero one consideration rezoning request to assign the zoning district M F R, multiple family residential, to properly located five seventy six Davis Road, parcel [3:40:28, 3:40:32]: S zero five zero one zero zero two zero zero zero [3:40:33, 3:40:47]: To allow for construction of a town home development. Applicant Forester Real Estate Group USA Agent Alex Brock Smith Ramble and Russell LLP. Property located landlock land lot ninety-one of District 12. [3:40:47, 3:40:50]: And it contains twenty seven point six five ekers. [3:40:50, 3:41:10]: To be presented by the community development staff, the planning commission approved this item of four zoning conditions at the April 27, 2023 meeting. Ryan, please. Uh Mayor Ford, most of what I've all I'll be presenting has already been covered in the previous case. We don't have a quorum. We don't have a quorum. All right. Stand by standby to Mr. Alexander and Ms. [3:41:10, 3:41:12]: While we come back. Stand by. [3:41:14, 3:41:16]: This is ridiculous. [3:41:19, 3:41:30]: If you're not for the development, why do you keep asking? But turn your mic off, sir, if you're gonna speak. I I don't care if you hear me this week. If you're not for the development, why you keep asking for [3:41:39, 3:41:41]: Where's our Cena turn? [3:41:41, 3:41:43]: I I thought you was isn't he sitting right down there? [3:41:51, 3:41:55]: Obviously we'll have a at least a a recess now, since we don't have a quorum. [3:41:59, 3:42:03]: We might we don't have a quorum t go ahead until we get a quorum back. [3:42:58, 3:42:59]: Yeah. [3:43:43, 3:43:44]: Yeah. [3:44:14, 3:44:16]: We'll make it sure, man. [3:44:52, 3:44:55]: All right, council. Let's get back together so we can finish this meeting. [3:45:02, 3:45:04]: Mr. Blount, Mr. Alexander, please. [3:45:30, 3:45:34]: Ms. Blount, Ms. Alexander, let's let's come back to the dial so we can get with the meeting here. [3:45:41, 3:45:44]: Madam Clerk, you ready? All right. [3:45:52, 3:46:11]: All right. Mr. Ryan, go ahead with your presentation, sir. Okay. Listen up folks. As I as I m mentioned earlier that most of what I'm about to present has already been discussed. So I'll just do a short presentation. Um on the screen now you have a aerial photo of the subject property. [3:46:14, 3:46:16]: Whoa, that's not even on there. Hold on. My fault. [3:46:28, 3:46:31]: What's going on, Ryan? Trying to get it off the um [3:46:33, 3:46:34]: Uh [3:46:49, 3:46:51]: There you go. That's what you need. Yes sir. Yes sir. Okay. [3:46:52, 3:46:55]: All right, uh on the screen now you see a aerial photo of the pro of the subject property. [3:46:57, 3:46:57]: Yeah. [3:47:04, 3:47:07]: On this screen you see the the the surrounding zoning. [3:47:08, 3:47:10]: Uh on the main road [3:47:10, 3:47:30]: I mean you got rural residential is which is which is represented by the pale yellow, the gold is suburban residential, the rust colored is city center residential, the orange is MHR, the brown is MFR, the light pink is C1, the medium pink is C2, the red is C three, the teal is PUD. [3:47:32, 3:47:35]: uh the case facts uh [3:47:37, 3:47:57]: Property once again, the property is located on the north side of Davis Road, adjacent to States Avenue, a private street and Sunrise Avenue to the west, one block west of Shields Road and Century Court, Central Oaks Court. The property conditions a long, narrow lot which slopes significantly downward in the north, dropping some. [3:47:57, 3:48:06]: 70 feet where an apparent stream and adjacent buffers are located. The current use: there are three single-family residences and a detached barn. [3:48:09, 3:48:15]: The surrounding land uses, you can see it on the map that's on the screen. I've already went through that somewhat. [3:48:18, 3:48:21]: This is the conceptual site plan. [3:48:22, 3:48:23]: Yeah. [3:48:26, 3:48:31]: Conceptual site plan in black and white. And here's the conceptual site plan in color. [3:48:35, 3:48:54]: Uh the the applicant has uh a recommended um traffic impact study. Um the basis of the study basically comes down to the point that there will be a minimum impact on the surrounding com the surrounding community and the date of the project build out is the year the year 2027. [3:48:58, 3:49:00]: It was a rendering of the town homes. [3:49:09, 3:49:10]: Um [3:49:12, 3:49:32]: Staff recommend staff recommends approval with conditions. The first condition is a comprehensive plan amendment. The rezoning shall not be approved unless the applicants requested comprehensive plan amendment via CP20-206 to assign the land use designation of high density residential to the subject properties approved before or assigned. [3:49:32, 3:49:36]: with the approval of RZ20 2207. [3:49:37, 3:49:43]: Condition number two, the variance should uh the rezoning should not be approved unless the applicants requested variance. [3:49:43, 3:50:03]: Via VR 2022-03 to reduce the required minimum front yard setback from 50 feet to 25 feet is approved before or simultaneous simultaneously with the approval of RZ22-07. And condition number three: the proposed townhome development shall be constructed according to the design, which is shown. [3:50:03, 3:50:14]: on the applicant's submitted black and white conceptual plan, uh we might have to amend that if the applicant reduces the density to um by five additional units. So we may have to work on that condition. [3:50:16, 3:50:17]: So staff recommends approval. [3:50:18, 3:50:23]: All right, thank you, Mr. Harrison. Appreciate it, Ryan. Okay, council. Any questions for Ryan at this time? [3:50:26, 3:50:27]: Mr. Barber, go ahead, please. [3:50:27, 3:50:30]: The conceptual site plan. [3:50:30, 3:50:31]: Um [3:50:32, 3:50:38]: This is not at the point where we can make suggestions on building materials that we'd like to see. [3:50:39, 3:50:41]: You can add a condition in your on the motion. [3:50:42, 3:50:43]: Okay. Um [3:50:44, 3:50:51]: But they we have some pretty stringent uh design criteria in the UDC so they'll have to use uh uh primar I mean [3:50:53, 3:50:57]: High quality, high great quality materials to to construct these I like to see stone. [3:50:58, 3:51:02]: Uh okay, you could add that to I mean stone is one pref our recommended um [3:51:02, 3:51:11]: Material building materials anyway. It's a recommendation by staff, but I like to add that as a condition. Okay. For the framework. The requirement. Okay. [3:51:16, 3:51:23]: But um if I may, Mayor. Go ahead. It seems as though the council has already taken a position to override [3:51:24, 3:51:33]: Um my thoughts on this can this project. So I'm going to abstain from this. Okay. Thank you. You're welcome. [3:51:34, 3:51:35]: Yes, yes, sir. [3:51:39, 3:51:42]: Once once again, you know, I'm gonna say this. [3:51:43, 3:51:44]: I'm not overriding. [3:51:45, 3:51:47]: Anyone in any district. [3:51:48, 3:51:51]: But either for a project or you're not for a project. [3:51:52, 3:51:54]: And if you're not for it, say you're not for it. [3:51:55, 3:51:59]: Don't continue to set conditions just like one was just set. [3:52:00, 3:52:06]: for brick, but I'm going to abstain. So I'm not trying to override anybody in their districts. [3:52:07, 3:52:09]: For me, I'm just speaking about me. [3:52:10, 3:52:12]: But if you set in conditions. [3:52:13, 3:52:16]: Then that's not overriding you, that's agreeing with you. [3:52:17, 3:52:20]: If they say yes, we'll do it, then I'm agreeing with you. Let's push it forward. [3:52:22, 3:52:25]: I started out by saying I'm letting [3:52:25, 3:52:28]: District four take the lead on this. [3:52:29, 3:52:42]: But if you continue to ask for conditions and they're saying yes, I'm agreeing to let them do what they do because you've asked for conditions. You asked for a pool. You just asked for bricks. [3:52:43, 3:52:49]: If you're not for the project, then leave it alone. Don't say I want all these conditions, but I'm not even gonna vote yes or no. [3:52:50, 3:52:56]: It makes no sense to me. So don't s so I don't want to feel belittled that I'm overriding anybody. [3:52:57, 3:53:06]: I only can be John Blount, but so when it gets so convoluted and we sit in this big conundrum of situations and circumstances, I got to go what you've been asking for. [3:53:07, 3:53:14]: If you say you want the house blue and they and they say, Oh, uh uh, we can play in it blue, then okay, I'm gonna go for it.'Cause they gave you what you want. [3:53:17, 3:53:18]: All right. So um [3:53:20, 3:53:31]: I'd like to respond to that before since that comment was a very good thing. Then we need to keep thinking the reason why I said this council is overriding [3:53:31, 3:53:35]: my thoughts is because I made a motion. I made a motion to [3:53:35, 3:53:36]: Delay. [3:53:36, 3:53:37]: The approval [3:53:38, 3:53:39]: Of the comprehensive plan amendment. [3:53:40, 3:53:41]: But this council. [3:53:41, 3:53:41]: Voted. [3:53:42, 3:53:43]: In support of it. [3:53:43, 3:53:46]: So that's why I'm abstaining from [3:53:46, 3:53:46]: All of it. [3:53:47, 3:53:50]: That doesn't mean that any suggestions that I give. [3:53:51, 3:53:54]: are my own. They are still suggestions [3:53:54, 3:53:58]: and ideas of the residents who will live there. [3:53:58, 3:54:00]: I still have to speak. [3:54:00, 3:54:01]: For them. [3:54:01, 3:54:02]: Thank you. [3:54:02, 3:54:20]: Alright, okay. On that note, uh are there any other comments before we state this ask for the uh this vote here? You gotta do a public hearing or no. I'm oh that's right. See there? See I've been keeping behind this mic so long. All right, public hearing. Uh okay, so we'll open this public hearing back up. [3:54:21, 3:54:25]: And I'm four items four. People four. [3:54:25, 3:54:28]: On the very left hand side, my my left hand side, over here. [3:54:29, 3:54:30]: Four. [3:54:31, 3:54:32]: In the middle, four. [3:54:34, 3:54:35]: All right. [3:54:36, 3:54:39]: Uh you know, I guess I didn't allow you to come up and speak earlier, did I not? [3:54:40, 3:54:46]: Okay, well let me finish you'll get a chance to speak, okay. You y obviously we w we'll do it. Four. Anybody in in the middle, four? [3:54:46, 3:54:48]: Okay, if you cut if [3:54:48, 3:54:52]: If you're coming for, line up over here, okay. Just if if you have no comments or not. [3:54:53, 3:54:53]: Yes or no? [3:54:55, 3:55:00]: He can rest on his comment so far. Okay. Anybody on the right hand side? Four. [3:55:01, 3:55:10]: Seems though I have only one individual, four at this point. All right, uh name and uh address please. Go ahead. [3:55:15, 3:55:35]: Again, Mr. Baird and Council members, my name is Richard Ordonas. I reside at 112 Man Boulevard down the street. I would just like to reiterate that we are for this proposal. It's been in the family for 73 years, but it's going to be a benefit for the community, for the city of Stockbridge, as expressed by [3:55:35, 3:55:43]: Some of the council members. They want to grow it. They want to get the business in here. And we want to have more families come in here and support those businesses and make this a great county. [3:55:44, 3:55:50]: Okay, thank you. Thank you. Public hearing once again against and as far left side, my left side. [3:55:50, 3:55:53]: Lamp right there. A anybody in the middle that's against. [3:55:54, 3:56:02]: Okay. Anybody my far? Right. All right. That's against. All right. Only seeing one. Sir, please. Name and address. [3:56:05, 3:56:25]: Mr. Ford, Mark McFry, 289 Shields Road, Stockbridge, Georgia. I'm against the 25-foot setback. Um, I don't see why our current code should be altered just to put these town homes in. I know I heard what the gentleman had. [3:56:25, 3:56:37]: had said that it would be expensive for them to cut the grass for the homeowners. Um well I cut three acres every week. My neighbor cuts almost seven acres. [3:56:38, 3:56:43]: If these people can afford three hundred thousand dollars, they can afford a HOA and all that other stuff. [3:56:44, 3:56:46]: I don't see why you should give'em [3:56:48, 3:56:51]: a twenty five foot setback when the code says fifty. [3:56:52, 3:56:53]: That's what I got. [3:56:53, 3:56:58]: Okay, appreciate it. Public hearing is now closed. Um uh Mr. Bruck. [3:56:58, 3:57:00]: Mr. Brock, please come on up for it. [3:57:05, 3:57:20]: Thank you, Mr. Mayor, members of the council. Uh again, just for form, my name's Alex Brock with Smith Cambrell Russell, Office Addresses Eleven O Five Peachtree or West Peachtree Street, Atlanta, Georgia. Uh and I'm here on behalf of the applicant four-star uh USA Real Estate Group. Um [3:57:21, 3:57:41]: And I'm not going to spend a lot of time because I think we covered a lot of the issues in depth in the uh last hearing. Uh but I would like to iterate just a few uh legal points and to uh uh uh mention a few things. Uh this property is one of the cities that was just uh annexed into the city and the city adopted its uh zoning earlier tonight. [3:57:41, 3:58:01]: Uh that zoning was a uh uh zoning district of rural residential. Uh we are asking to rezone to multifamily residential to allow this townhome development. Uh as uh Mr. Anderson pointed out earlier tonight, uh it is commiserate with the number of the surrounding uh zoning districts. We have mobile home uh residential to the west. [3:58:01, 3:58:10]: The Pine Hills Mobile Home Park. To the east, we have duplexes along Century Oak Drive zone city center residential. [3:58:10, 3:58:30]: To the north are several single family homes within unincorporated Henry County, which are zoned uh residential agricultural under the Henry County Code. Uh and in addition, there is another uh multifamily residential district uh along uh Davis Road, the Big Oak Villas, which is a um town [3:58:30, 3:58:45]: Home development at a density of nine units per acre. In addition, the the subject property is also located less than one mile east of the commercial node at the intersection of Highway 92 and Highway 138. [3:58:46, 3:59:06]: Uh just to state again this rezoning request is commensurate with the properties that in districts that exist in the area today, uh as well as the uh townhomes will add a mix of housing options uh as a uh stated goal of the uh city's comprehensive plan. We are providing a mix of units, uh both two car and one-car. [3:59:06, 3:59:26]: garages. Um one thing I would like to note on staff's conditions if this uh body so chooses to adopt staff's conditions. I'd like to point out that condition number one is already satisfied uh the approval of the comprehensive plan amendment. Uh so that is a non-condition. Uh we'd ask that to be removed. [3:59:26, 3:59:46]: Uh the site plan, I would ask that it should be constructed in general accordance with the uh plan so named here, so that we may make the changes that were conditioned uh earlier tonight, uh namely adding the pool and the six units per acre density. Um adding the the wording to be in general conformance, I believe, would allow. [3:59:45, 4:00:05]: the flexibility to make those changes without having to come back before this body. And then the last request that I would have is that condition number two, the variance. Uh I request that be heard and considered separately. If there are issues with the variance as this comes up, I would not like to have that on bearing on the comprehensive plan that we already approved as well. [4:00:05, 4:00:10]: well as the rezoning that we hear tonight, uh that should be hold heard on its own merits. [4:00:11, 4:00:23]: Okay, so based on your comments, I'm I'm thinking that the uh motion if it's gonna be approved, you said you mentioned the comprehensive plan amendment should be taken off because we've already done that, and then the site plan [4:00:23, 4:00:43]: uh would have to change to what would we we agree to what we uh motioned and you all agreed to the pool and s uh six units per acre, right? That would have to be part of that and the variance would come off but if there's a pr I guess only variants only come off if there's a concern, I suppose. I get and since we have not heard that yet, um I I'd just like to remove that so we can hear that [4:00:43, 4:00:59]: That on its own merits, uh, because if it is passed with that condition and for some reason the variance is denied, then we are in a legal conundrum of how to satisfy that. Uh since you've just passed the zoning and the comprehensive plan amendment. Okay. Um okay. [4:01:00, 4:01:09]: On that note, Council, you heard that. I don't know what other comments you have, but if we make a motion, I guess those those requested things probably need to be in the motion for our final approval. [4:01:10, 4:01:30]: If that's the case. I I have a question. Go ahead, sir. On the on on the variance piece, are you trying to say you want to come back and have a discussion on that or what are you trying to do with that? No, this it since the city has decided to take these as three separate applications at three separate hearings tonight, we would hear the variance after this. Uh so once you make a motion on that, then we would hear that. [4:01:30, 4:01:32]: the merits of the variance and vote upon that. [4:01:32, 4:01:34]: That's true, it's coming next. That's right. Yes. [4:01:35, 4:01:36]: Yeah. I'm fine with that. [4:01:36, 4:01:36]: No. [4:01:37, 4:01:57]: All right. Yes sir. So uh in essence um you we there was a request made for some brick construction. I certainly do agree with uh there's been a variance of materials uh as well. [4:01:57, 4:02:17]: But there need to be a balance, of course, because this is workforce housing. And the workforce housing would include teachers, firefighters, some of our police officers to be able to purchase a home uh in the city. So uh I'm going to ask what uh we don't want uh [4:02:16, 4:02:36]: The HOA fees are gonna be uh we don't want that to be overly encumbersome on the residents. So uh a percentage of the properties being uh constructed of brick. Uh for a a homeowner who desired that, was that the desire or was it all of them? [4:02:36, 4:02:37]: But [4:02:41, 4:02:42]: Some stone. [4:02:44, 4:02:46]: Some stone uh being the suggestion. [4:02:48, 4:02:50]: Yeah, speak. [4:02:51, 4:02:54]: Yeah, but how do you determine that? Yeah. [4:02:55, 4:03:15]: You want to I would just like to go if I may. Um I would just like to say with our elevations now, we are required to comply with UDC requirements. As as staff can indicated earlier, there are significant architectural requirements for the facade, which include uh uh implementing brick and stone within the facade, so we are accounting for that. [4:03:15, 4:03:17]: What percentage are you proposing? [4:03:18, 4:03:19]: Quick. [4:03:20, 4:03:22]: Come come around, come up to the p podium, please. [4:03:26, 4:03:46]: The front the the front the frontage will have to be made out of brick or stone uh uh m or f uh s can't pronounce the cementus fiber materials. So the whole frontage would have to be made out of those materials. Yeah. And then we have secondary materials. Yeah, I think uh councilwoman Gann always says this too. If homeowners do like a [4:03:46, 4:03:57]: A um a um a choice. Somebody might not want brick. I do want some brick, but everybody might not want it. So you agreeable to that? Some brick. [4:03:58, 4:04:07]: Uh, maybe about y you know, there'll be some options so they could have vinyl. I mean not vin I'm so certainly not vinyl. They could have uh just a craftsman style hole. [4:04:09, 4:04:29]: So is there a recommendation from staff for maybe a percentage of uh brick versus instead of a hundred percent, go down to offer them maybe twenty five percent of the units of the units? They they got the units if you look close to um Mayor, if you might well let Ryan finish. Ryan's gonna answer his question. Are you saying for the total number of units [4:04:29, 4:04:38]: Twenty five percent of the total number of units. But the UDC requires that, I mean, all the units would have to be have a primary material of brick, stone, or cementus fiber. [4:04:39, 4:04:51]: Right, but at the same time we wanna offer homeowners a craftsman style, if they some homers may not desire that. Councilwoman Gann always raises that point. What do you think? Yeah, but Mr. Alexander the thing about that is [4:04:52, 4:04:58]: What if you got a unit here once and the other three don't? You don't have no continuity of the property. [4:05:00, 4:05:01]: You y you see what I'm saying? [4:05:03, 4:05:18]: But uh um on on on the uh could you put the picture? Oh so you oh sorry what you saw. Hold on, hold on, hold on, please. So the requirement is a hundred percent uh I'm okay with that. It what the UDC would outline what is necessary in the first place. [4:05:18, 4:05:24]: And uh also requires a uh 25% brick water tape on the ground. [4:05:28, 4:05:32]: So these are this is a conceptual rendering of a one and two car garage. [4:05:33, 4:05:40]: No, w well we want some full brick fronts on some of'em. That's what I'm saying, not just a water table percentage. [4:05:42, 4:05:46]: So I uh so you're not saying that it requires a hundred percent brick front? [4:05:47, 4:05:47]: Yeah. [4:05:52, 4:05:53]: Boy, Miss Carter. [4:05:54, 4:06:14]: Um the code requires for multifamily residential that the facade have thirty percent brick or stone or combination of each um on all four facades of the building, or in this case it would be either two or three because they're town homes. It would just be the end of the homes. Um and then a secondary [4:06:14, 4:06:32]: material covering remaining can be comprised of one or more of either stucco shake and or cement fiber board. And this is requirement per the code. Okay, well the code's solid. The code's got it all. It's laid out the code's already got it. Already laid it out. Okay. Thank you. [4:06:33, 4:06:53]: All right, Ryan, you need to continue? Uh no sir. Okay. Okay. All right, Mr. Brock, you you gave your uh suggestions for the requirements for uh this motion in a sense. Uh I mentioned I I try to reiterate that particular aspect which you're asking for, and of course the virus piece would be the very next thing coming. [4:06:53, 4:06:59]: [14820.0, 14826.6]: All right. So on that note, Council, I need a motion to accept rezoning case item number ten, please. [4:07:07, 4:07:27]: Mayor. Yes, sir. I want to make a motion to approve the zoning uh with the conditions uh as described and the requirements in the ULDC uh to be approved. Second. Well okay, stand by though I thought part of this process by request uh would be the [4:07:26, 4:07:43]: the variants would come out the variants would come uh uh subsequent to that and then item number one would be removed. Okay. Yes. All right. Mr Blount you second that? Yes. Okay. Mayor I mean um um chair chair [4:07:44, 4:07:45]: City clerk. [4:07:46, 4:07:49]: I I need more water. See clerk, do you understand the motion? Me too. [4:07:50, 4:07:53]: Okay. Okay. Motion was made in a second. All in favor, please indicate. [4:07:54, 4:07:55]: All right. [4:07:56, 4:07:59]: Three zero one. Opposition? Abstaining? [4:08:00, 4:08:20]: I will be abstaining. Okay, got it. So 301, the motion passed. All right. Now we'll move on. Item number eleven, variance case. Uh VR two zero two two two two two two two two two two two two dash zero three. Consideration of variance request and grant variance of property five seventy-six. Davis road partial S05-01. [4:08:20, 4:08:35]: one zero zero two zero zero zero in order to allow for construction of a town home development. Requested variance would reduce the front setback from the requirement of fifty feet to twenty five feet applicant for stir four star for stir. [4:08:36, 4:08:56]: Real Estate Group USA Incorporated Agent Alex Brock of Smith, Ramble, and Russell LLP. Property is located at Landlock 91 District 12, contains 27.635 acres. As presented by the community direct development staff planning commission approved the item with three zoning conditions. [4:08:56, 4:08:59]: April twenty seventh of twenty twenty three. Ryan, please. [4:08:59, 4:09:19]: Okay, uh most of all of the stuff I've s um be going through has already been said, so I'll give a brief synopsis of this case. Um the proposed development, the total number of townhomes will be 170 units on twenty-seven point six three acres, but that has been reduced down to a hundred and sixty-five. [4:09:19, 4:09:21]: Um [4:09:21, 4:09:41]: The site access would include a main entrance plus an emergency access off Davis Road. Internal streets would include a main loop and several cross streets. Sidewalks will be 10 feet. A mail kiosk will be located near the main entrance with on-street parking. The maximum lock covers will be 47.6. [4:09:41, 4:10:01]: 6%, which is less than 50% requirement of the MFR district. Setbacks would be 25 feet in the front with the approved variants tonight. Uh open space, which would include the stream buffer area, and would be 5,600 square feet of landscape public space. Amenities would include a playground, a doll park, [4:10:01, 4:10:09]: Parking, a walking trail, and also the pavilion and pool. Parking would include 662 total spaces. [4:10:09, 4:10:13]: And a stormwater pool will be located the north of the property. [4:10:13, 4:10:16]: Here's the site plan again in in um black and white. [4:10:18, 4:10:21]: Here's the conceptual site plan uh in color. [4:10:24, 4:10:27]: Got a quick question on that. Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. [4:10:27, 4:10:37]: Where you guys putting the the is the uh trash wh the uh dumpster settings? Or where w where they gonna take the trash? Uh it's gonna be [4:10:39, 4:10:42]: Let me blow this up. I can show you uh [4:10:42, 4:10:46]: You got a clubhouse, I'm assuming it's probably near the clubhouse, I would imagine. [4:10:47, 4:10:53]: Well, I have to admit where I live the d the d dumpster's right near the clubhouse parking lot. I'm just going by what I know, but anyway. [4:10:54, 4:10:56]: No it is No, no, it's a it is right. [4:11:02, 4:11:06]: You still looking Ryan? Is that what you're trying to figure out? Yeah, yes. Mr. Brock, you need to come up you need to come up with the mic? [4:11:09, 4:11:10]: It's larger than me. [4:11:11, 4:11:20]: I believe the question is where the dumpster is located. Wh where the w where are they gonna be able to take the trash to? This would be curbside uh pickup. We don't have a dumpster yes. Oh okay. [4:11:21, 4:11:23]: GFA? Yes. Oh, okay. [4:11:26, 4:11:27]: Yeah. [4:11:30, 4:11:30]: Okay. [4:11:32, 4:11:34]: Once again here's the renderings of the units. [4:11:41, 4:12:01]: Staff analysis um criteria A: whether the subject property has extraordinary and exceptional physical care physical characteristics compared to other properties in the zoning district. Yes, the property is long and narrow, sloping downward by some 70 feet from Davis Road to the rear. Stream buffers are also present at the rear of the property. These factors represent [4:12:01, 4:12:15]: considerable limitations toward the developability of the property in general, as well as the developer's ability to create a reasonable site plan with townhome lots that are similar size to ones that are found in other townhomes development. [4:12:15, 4:12:35]: Criterion B whether literal interpretation of the UDC would deprive the applicant of rights that are commonly enjoyed by owners of other properties in the same zoning district. The answer is yes. The applicant may be deprived of the ability to develop a townhome community with lots that are are similar size to those which are found in other MFR districts. [4:12:35, 4:12:55]: Criteria and C whether the requested variants will give the property owner any special privileges that are denied to other property owners in the zoning in the same zoning district. No special privileges would be given to the property owner. The denial of the variance will force the developer to comply with the standards, which would be unfair and create an unnecessary hardship to the property. [4:12:55, 4:13:00]: due to the d difficult physical characteristics of the property. [4:13:02, 4:13:22]: Criteria D. Whether the variance will be consistent with the purposes and intent of the UDC, whether it would be compatible with neighboring uses, and whether it would serve the public welfare. The variance will be consistent with the purpose and intent of the UDC by encouraging the most appropriate use of land and buildings on the subject property. Granting a variance would allow the [4:13:22, 4:13:42]: Development of the property in a mostly residential area which has had little development activity in recent years. The proposed townhome community would be compatible with the other existing residential uses in the area. Criteria E: whether the extraordinary conditions are not the result of actions of the applicant, the physical conditions of the [4:13:42, 4:14:02]: Subject property were not created by the applicant, yet they are limiting limiting the applicant's ability to develop the property into a reasonable use. Criteria F: whether the variance is the minimum relief that would allow the legal use of the land. The developer could still build a townhouse development on the property on the MFR without the variance. [4:14:02, 4:14:15]: However, the developer developer would be significantly constrained in designing a site plan which would allow the construction of a sif s sufficient number of units to be economically viable. [4:14:16, 4:14:28]: G, criteria G. The variance is not a request to permit a use of land, building, or structures that is prohibited in the same zoning district. Townhomes are permitted use within the proposed MFR district. [4:14:31, 4:14:51]: Staff findings and conclusions. As a result of the foregoing analysis, the planning and zoning staff have found that the subject property's physical characteristics substantially limits its developability, and that without the request of errands, it may not be positive, may not be possible to build a sufficient number of townhomes to be economically. [4:14:51, 4:14:57]: economically feasible. Staff recommends approval with conditions. [4:14:59, 4:15:19]: Um condition one has already been satisfied, condition two has already been satisfied, and um condition three the site plan shall be developed with uh according this has to be amended, has to be restated to say that the the number of units will be reduced to 160. [4:15:19, 4:15:25]: six to five units with a pool and a certain percentage of the number of units. Well [4:15:26, 4:15:29]: Would have to be stone. I think that's [4:15:30, 4:15:33]: I think that it still requires sovereignty U D C, I thought. [4:15:33, 4:15:38]: Well yeah, according to the UDC. Okay, yes. So that don't have to be amended and the first two striked out. [4:15:41, 4:15:52]: Because they're they they have already been satisfied. The comprehensive plan has already been approved and the rezoning has already already been approved tonight. So there's no need to include those conditions. [4:15:53, 4:15:58]: This is primarily dealing with the variance only since it is. All right. [4:15:58, 4:16:03]: Council, any questions for Ryan? Yes. Go ahead, please. Um [4:16:05, 4:16:10]: Would I ask to reduce the amount of units that are in the center of this proposed development? [4:16:12, 4:16:16]: If they reduce the amount of units, it would be no need for [4:16:17, 4:16:18]: The variants. [4:16:20, 4:16:22]: Therefore they wouldn't need a [4:16:22, 4:16:26]: variance on the twenty five feet setback as opposed to the fifty feet [4:16:27, 4:16:28]: That is in our code. [4:16:29, 4:16:34]: We wouldn't have to worry about on street parking or them adding additional parking spaces. [4:16:35, 4:16:36]: For on street parking. [4:16:38, 4:16:45]: When Councillor Alexander and I spoke with them a couple of weeks ago, we talked about the location. [4:16:45, 4:16:47]: of the clubhouse and pool. [4:16:48, 4:16:51]: It was agreed that they would relocate the clubhouse in the pool. [4:16:52, 4:16:53]: To the front entrance. [4:16:53, 4:16:54]: of this development. [4:16:55, 4:16:59]: I don't see that this concep conceptual drawing captures that. [4:17:00, 4:17:01]: Nor is it mentioned [4:17:01, 4:17:04]: Anywhere in the conditions by staff. [4:17:05, 4:17:07]: So I'd like to hear from the attorney. [4:17:07, 4:17:08]: For the developer. [4:17:09, 4:17:10]: Regarding that. [4:17:13, 4:17:14]: Ms. Brown, come on, please. [4:17:19, 4:17:26]: All right. Um not going to percent just yet, just to answer Mayor Pro Tem Barber's questions. Uh [4:17:28, 4:17:39]: First of all, uh the request tonight is to reduce the setback from fifty feet to twenty five feet for the individual units. Yes, but my question is in regards to our discussion that we had. [4:17:40, 4:17:50]: Um with the location of the pool and the clubhouse. Yep. To move that to the front of the development. And that that would not affect the setback of the driveways uh themselves. [4:17:50, 4:17:54]: Okay, that's my first question. Can you address that one? I'm sorry. [4:17:55, 4:18:10]: It I that was my answer that if we moved the clubhouse to the front of the neighborhood, it would not necessarily affect the need for a twenty five or reduction to twenty five foot setback for the individual units. I get that. Um [4:18:10, 4:18:16]: My second question was related to the twenty five feet setback variants that you all are requesting. [4:18:17, 4:18:21]: You won't need a variance if you reduce the amount of units that are in the center. [4:18:22, 4:18:23]: of this proposed development. [4:18:24, 4:18:26]: You won't need the variance because you will have [4:18:27, 4:18:27]: Um [4:18:28, 4:18:30]: Enough room for the fifty feet. [4:18:31, 4:18:32]: Fifty feet set back and [4:18:32, 4:18:35]: Residents will be able to park in their driveway. [4:18:35, 4:18:36]: [15516.4, 15518.3]: Four cars in the driveway. [4:18:38, 4:18:50]: In addition to two cars in the garage, as opposed to two cars in the garage and two cars in the driveway and any guests that may appear. [4:18:50, 4:18:52]: We have to park in the стріт. [4:18:52, 4:18:55]: In the designated parking spaces that you all have. [4:18:55, 4:18:57]: А вам то елими. [4:18:57, 4:18:58]: The entire middle of [4:18:59, 4:19:01]: section of units. I think there are five [4:19:02, 4:19:04]: Five buildings that you have. [4:19:04, 4:19:06]: with four or five units per building. [4:19:07, 4:19:08]: Eliminate those. [4:19:09, 4:19:11]: And you won't need a setback. [4:19:11, 4:19:12]: I'm trying to [4:19:12, 4:19:14]: avoid having a [4:19:14, 4:19:16]: Neighborhood where the streets are narrow. [4:19:17, 4:19:20]: Where there's really no room for kids to even play. [4:19:20, 4:19:22]: In the front yard. [4:19:22, 4:19:22]: Or [4:19:23, 4:19:24]: In the streets. [4:19:26, 4:19:27]: That's what I'm trying to eliminate. [4:19:28, 4:19:30]: So my first question again. [4:19:31, 4:19:36]: We agreed that you would move the pool and the clubhouse to the front of this development. [4:19:37, 4:19:46]: That is a condition that I want my councilmates to include in their approval of this variance if that's what they want to move forward with. [4:19:47, 4:19:50]: Would you like me to address the first point? [4:19:50, 4:20:05]: Well I don't know. We're talking about variance. I don't know if the this pool and clubhouse piece goes into variance piece here. I mean this is not this is dealing with the variance only. And so I don't know how that what you're asking for goes into this particular uh item right here, right now. [4:20:05, 4:20:13]: See, we're talking about the variance only. So the variance again, I'll say if you remove all the units in the middle, can you put back up your conceptual drawing? [4:20:14, 4:20:15]: So [4:20:15, 4:20:20]: The people here can see what I'm talking about. The public can't see it. [4:20:23, 4:20:28]: those five units or buildings that are in the middle of this development. [4:20:29, 4:20:30]: Six units. [4:20:30, 4:20:32]: That are in the middle of this development. [4:20:33, 4:20:34]: Remove them. [4:20:35, 4:20:36]: So that way [4:20:36, 4:20:38]: There will be no need. [4:20:38, 4:20:44]: for the on street parking that you've added as a result of the setback. [4:20:44, 4:20:45]: That you're requesting. [4:20:46, 4:20:50]: You're asking for a setback because there is no room [4:20:51, 4:20:52]: For people to park. [4:20:52, 4:20:53]: In the driveway. [4:20:54, 4:21:00]: But if you had a fifty foot driveway, you can get cars, four cars in the driveway. [4:21:01, 4:21:05]: Would you like me to address that point? [4:21:07, 4:21:27]: First point I'd like to make is this body just approved the rezoning of the comprehensive plan with the condition that it be limited to six units per acre. Uh a reduction of the six blocks total, uh, which would be I I can't count the number of units, would be far more uh than the five units that we agreed to reduce in the last two hearings. Uh [4:21:27, 4:21:27]: Oh. [4:21:28, 4:21:48]: Secondly, the 25-foot setback, uh, there are other hardships and conditions to that, and it wasn't just the to allow more on-street parking. The on-street parking was an effort to mitigate the impacts of the variants. Uh with shorter driveways, there's less parking in the driveway for other additional cars. That was one concern that made [4:21:48, 4:22:05]: Mayor Pro Tem Barber brought up when we met with her last November, January, uh, in regards to this variance. So we addressed that by adding over ninety on street parking spaces uh to the development to compensate for that loss in driveway parking. [4:22:05, 4:22:06]: Okay. [4:22:07, 4:22:15]: those ninety parking spaces are not directly in front of the homes. In fact [4:22:15, 4:22:16]: Um [4:22:16, 4:22:17]: There is another [4:22:18, 4:22:19]: Plan or [4:22:19, 4:22:21]: drawing that you all provided. [4:22:21, 4:22:28]: that shows the parking areas and slots that you have designated for on street parking. [4:22:28, 4:22:32]: Do you mind sharing that? Can you share it, Miss Carter, if you have it? [4:22:34, 4:22:39]: That shows all of the areas where they've added the on street parking because you can't see it from here. [4:22:39, 4:22:42]: I can try to zoom in and show you where we oops. [4:22:43, 4:22:44]: Left right. [4:22:44, 4:22:46]: Black and white. [4:22:56, 4:22:57]: Is that a little bit better? [4:22:57, 4:22:59]: Is that a little bit better for you all? [4:23:00, 4:23:02]: Are you able to zoom in a little more? [4:23:14, 4:23:21]: Can you point out all of the areas for the on street parking so that those who are here can see? [4:23:22, 4:23:37]: So the the parking is gonna be here, here, and these areas here, and around on the front part where the amenities are, and then on each of the sides of these units. Well that's it because [4:23:37, 4:23:43]: Right, this is the clubhouse. Where's the clubhouse? [4:23:44, 4:23:45]: Mm-hmm. There. [4:23:45, 4:24:05]: Yes. So so yes, they would have and it's it's just considered it's it's off street, off site parking versus what's in front of either the home itself or the garage parking that's provided for each because it each is required to have two car garage for each townhome. So they're uh adding additional [4:24:05, 4:24:14]: parking here for guests and things so that you don't have people locking up the entrance and exits going in and out of the development. [4:24:14, 4:24:18]: This is with a twenty five feet setback, correct? [4:24:20, 4:24:20]: Mm. [4:24:21, 4:24:28]: I I would assume yes, that's what is being proposed, correct? Okay. So they've had to add the on street parking. [4:24:28, 4:24:31]: Because of the twenty five feet setback. [4:24:32, 4:24:34]: If there were a fifty feet set back. [4:24:36, 4:24:38]: The homeowners would be able to accommodate. [4:24:39, 4:24:41]: Адишну карсьве. [4:24:43, 4:24:46]: Meaning they would need the on street parking. [4:24:47, 4:25:01]: So two issues I need for my councilmates to address. And yes, I know this particular item is only addressing the variants, but also address the clubhouse and the pool being relocated to the [4:25:01, 4:25:03]: front entrance of this [4:25:04, 4:25:05]: Proposed development. [4:25:05, 4:25:09]: Councilman Alexander, you and I had that conversation with the developer. [4:25:10, 4:25:11]: Thank you. [4:25:12, 4:25:25]: Do you need to you need to respond to that? Let let me just say this. Now we've had this discussion with the developer. There's an argument to be made because you requested all these additional parking spaces. There might be too many parking spaces in this development. [4:25:26, 4:25:27]: Actually, because [4:25:28, 4:25:39]: You you took away some of the uh uh the ability to add beautification because there's so many parking spaces, but they did that because you requested them to do so. So [4:25:40, 4:26:00]: There's no there's no argument that there's not enough parking. In my dimension, there might be too much because this development exceeds what we did on East Atlanta Road, where you have on-street parking all over the place, plus the two-car garage, plus the garages, plus the driveways. This development has added [4:26:00, 4:26:20]: And ex maybe even more parking than absolutely necessary. I certainly agree that you know the development has has come a long way in where we are now. Now, is there a reason I heard you say that that the pool and everything needs to move to the front? But what is [4:26:20, 4:26:23]: is the substantial reason for moving the pool to the front. [4:26:25, 4:26:44]: Yeah, he's that he's actually addressing you, Mayor Pro Tem. Go ahead, please. Yes. He's asking you a question. What what Well, I believe that was something you brought up during their meeting with the proposed developer when you and I spoke with them, and it was for beautification reasons. Um it was to make it more aesthetically pleasing. [4:26:45, 4:26:48]: For those who will drive through this proposed development. [4:26:49, 4:26:51]: Because it is such a narrow [4:26:51, 4:26:51]: Um [4:26:52, 4:26:52]: Property. [4:26:54, 4:27:01]: You can't see really any landscaping, you're just seeing buildings. Mm-hmm. You can't see any beautifications because it's a lot of [4:27:01, 4:27:02]: Buildings. [4:27:03, 4:27:08]: I mentioned to them early on in every discussion that I've had with this [4:27:08, 4:27:09]: Developer. [4:27:09, 4:27:12]: My concern with on street parking. [4:27:12, 4:27:14]: Their way of mitigating that was [4:27:14, 4:27:16]: Adding on street park. [4:27:16, 4:27:18]: adding additional parking here. [4:27:18, 4:27:21]: I had concerns about the twenty five feet setback. [4:27:22, 4:27:25]: I didn't like the way it looked. [4:27:26, 4:27:30]: They wanted to cram in a whole lot of units here. Two hundred and fifty at that. [4:27:31, 4:27:35]: So the start of my discussions with them was my concern. [4:27:35, 4:27:37]: with the on street parking. [4:27:39, 4:27:42]: So I hope I refreshed your memory. [4:27:43, 4:27:52]: to make it more aesthetically pleasing for those who will want to buy a home there. Let me just say this. I suggested removing some of the parking in the middle. [4:27:52, 4:28:08]: I don't recall seeing moving the pool to the front, but I may m may have misspoken. But the layout here is everything the clubhouse and everything would be in the back laid out with the pool and everything. It seems the perfect layout. And then [4:28:08, 4:28:28]: If you move the pool to the front, you're moving these residents closer back to where the wetlands are and everything to shift everything around. So I certainly may not uh might have misspoke, but my desire was to move some of those parking spaces out of the middle to add some beautification in there. But we've pass that point now. [4:28:28, 4:28:40]: We're dealing with the variant, so I think we still need beautification. So removing some of those parking spaces and adding more beautification. You all have override [4:28:40, 4:28:41]: Everything that I've suggested. [4:28:41, 4:28:43]: So I'll leave this up to you. [4:28:43, 4:28:46]: And I'll explain it to the residents as I speak to them. [4:28:46, 4:28:47]: When I go through [4:28:47, 4:28:54]: The neighborhoods over there. Okay, let I let them know. Let the developer come real real quick. I'm gonna do that real quick. Developer, can you come back to the here? [4:28:55, 4:29:10]: Now, obviously it would be less expensive for you to remove let's say we got the two units in the middle. If you remove that on street parking on the two units on both sides of that, yeah. And you added one of the units as well. [4:29:10, 4:29:30]: No, we're not talking about reducing the units. Talking about reducing the parking spaces so that you can have some beautification in there so residents can drive by something very attractive. Then this you suggested these parking spaces. They weren't there. So I don't think we should have all of these parking spaces so they're driving by all parking spaces. Now [4:29:30, 4:29:41]: I certainly would suggest it would be less expensive for you all to add some beautification in there and take those parking spaces out on both sides of this those two in the middle. [4:29:42, 4:29:43]: Okay. [4:29:43, 4:30:03]: This is a this what the topic really is very a variance is what we need to really vote on. I'm okay with the variance, honest. We need to vote on the variance. Okay. That's what really what we need to talk about. We're kind of getting off subject here. Slightly on what the item is for discussion. We still need to address the concerns that I've raised as well. M Mr. Blount, please. All of them. Mr. Blount. [4:30:04, 4:30:11]: You know, w the way the city is going and we're getting ready to deal with traffic and parking situations and permitting parking. [4:30:11, 4:30:25]: In fact if if we set someone to build a community that that addressed that issue so it wouldn't be an issue for them, that's what this look like. You got parking everywhere. That's that's that's you know, when you [4:30:26, 4:30:29]: You don't you shouldn't have to worry about anybody getting ticketed for Parker. [4:30:30, 4:30:50]: Uh whatever conversations they had, I don't know, and whatever they came up, you know, came up with I don't know. I'm only saying right here was presented to us and was presented to me. It's condition after condition after condition. And the condition for to to to include the varents because of what we were just told by who we hired. [4:30:50, 4:30:53]: to say, hey, it's needed or whatever, I I'm okay with the variance. [4:30:55, 4:30:57]: I mean to get back on the subject. Right. [4:30:59, 4:31:09]: Council, the the uh we're dealing with the variance here. I need a motion if there's no more discussion then we have plenty of discussion. I'm sorry, sir. Yeah, point of order. I [4:31:10, 4:31:11]: We have an interpublic hearing. [4:31:12, 4:31:14]: You're right. You're right. [4:31:15, 4:31:21]: Open the doors for a public hearing. Open it for public hearing. All right, I'm very uh sir, go ahead. [4:31:21, 4:31:25]: Mayor, yes. Uh as the applicant. Yes, as the applic. Go ahead, sir. [4:31:26, 4:31:46]: Uh and just for formality again, my name's Alex Brock, Smith Gimbrel Russell, Office Address 1105 West Peachtree Street. Uh here on behalf of the applicant four-star residential for this variance request. I think we've gone through a lot of these issues in uh detail, but there's a few things I wanted to point out that um staff touched upon and we haven't touched. [4:31:45, 4:32:05]: Upon in the council's earlier questions regarding hardship and and the reasons why we need this variance. As noted, it is a long narrow property. We have looked at trying to redesign this property several times. It should be noted that when we initially submitted this application, we had three variances. We were able to eliminate two of those variances. [4:32:05, 4:32:25]: Uh in the current plan, but one that we were not able to eliminate was the 25-foot setback. Uh, and again, that's due to the long, narrow shape of the property as well as the topography. The site slopes down quite a bit as you proceed to the north away from Davis Road. Uh so it makes layout of this uh [4:32:25, 4:32:27]: uh property uh difficult. [4:32:30, 4:32:30]: Um [4:32:32, 4:32:52]: One item that I would like to address that Mayor Bar Barber brought up is the meeting that we had with her and Councilmember Alexander was the day before or two days before the Planning Commission. Uh at that meeting we said we could not revise the plan because we wouldn't have time before Planning Commission. They would have to hear the plan that was presented. That that body reviewed this plan in [4:32:52, 4:32:58]: In recommended approval, same as staff, uh, for the variants, uh, for the reasons that it gave regarding the hardship. [4:32:58, 4:33:18]: We have tried to mitigate the impacts of the the variants. As I noted, we have included parking throughout the development. Um after tonight, if this uh body so chooses to move forward and approve the variants, we will take a look at adding beautification landscape uh within the the development. Uh we I think we prefer [4:33:18, 4:33:32]: landscaping over parking. But that's something that we can do. We can continue those conversations with planning staff after tonight as we move forward. So we still have to go through land development permit process and in building permits. [4:33:33, 4:33:33]: All right. [4:33:34, 4:33:54]: Um oh and one last point to make is that the homeowners association will be respon responsible for the maintenance of landscaping within the individual lots and units. Uh so the longer driveways would uh necessitate more uh uh maintenance of the landscaping and higher HOA dues as [4:33:54, 4:34:01]: result of that so that's another benefit to decreasing the the uh uh driveways and then [4:34:02, 4:34:22]: Sorry, I misspoke one last statement. Uh we have looked at some of the surrounding jurisdictions: Henry County, uh Clayton County, Rockdale County. Uh also Mayor Pro Tem Barber mentioned a townhome development she meant she visited in Tucker that had the 25-foot um uh setback uh for the lots. Now we'll note that the 50-foot setback for [4:34:22, 4:34:25]: individual lots is out of place. Uh it's uh [4:34:27, 4:34:45]: A uh uh singular requirement uh amongst all those jurisdictions. Most jurisdictions require anywhere from fifteen to uh twenty-five foot setback. So with that, I would request that you follow staff and planning commission's lead to approve this variance. Thank you. [4:34:46, 4:34:47]: On the setback. [4:34:48, 4:34:50]: If it's a twenty five foot setback. [4:34:52, 4:34:54]: For the length of the driveway. [4:34:55, 4:35:06]: We're in these cars bid or a pickup, pulling their driveway and they're hanging in the walkway. No Okay, gotcha. We've designed that so that we could fit a car between the sidewalk and the [4:35:08, 4:35:18]: The building. Public hearing. I'm open up. Anybody four? You'll speak four. This variance changed that's on the table now to be requested. Four in the middle. Uh excuse me on on the left. [4:35:19, 4:35:20]: My left. [4:35:20, 4:35:21]: See none. In the middle. [4:35:23, 4:35:27]: Okay, come on uh come on of s uh center audio here for anyone to fall right. [4:35:28, 4:35:31]: Four for the for the various states. Okay. [4:35:31, 4:35:34]: Just one. Come on, make your state your name and address, please. [4:35:35, 4:35:35]: Four [4:35:36, 4:35:38]: The reference for the Avarics change. [4:35:38, 4:35:47]: My name is Richard Ordonas. I live at 112 Man Boulevard in Stockbridge, Georgia, just a half a mile from here. I've heard a lot of discussion tonight. I've heard a lot of [4:35:48, 4:36:08]: Rediscussion and rehashing and I feel that this project should go through the approval should be positive and approved because it's a benefit to the city, to the residents, and to the future residents and to the future of the city. Thank you. [4:36:08, 4:36:27]: Else uh I mean that's against this particular variance change request. Far left in the middle, my far right, seeing none. Public hearings closed. All right, council. I need a motion to uh to accept the variance chains or disapprove the variance chains. I mean yes ma'am. [4:36:28, 4:36:31]: Um I'd like to make a comment, please. [4:36:32, 4:36:33]: Go ahead. [4:36:34, 4:36:46]: I'm sorry what when I made reference to the um townhome community in Tucker Avery Hills, there are approximately fifty units, so it's low density. [4:36:47, 4:36:50]: And yes, they do have a twenty five feet. [4:36:50, 4:36:51]: said May. [4:36:52, 4:36:53]: That's a low density. [4:36:54, 4:36:56]: What this council has approved [4:36:56, 4:36:57]: is a high density. [4:36:59, 4:37:08]: What is before this council now is whether or not to approve this variance of a twenty-five feet setback of a high density development. [4:37:10, 4:37:11]: I do not agree with it. [4:37:12, 4:37:15]: Видо ні айденси девелмент. [4:37:16, 4:37:16]: With [4:37:17, 4:37:18]: That many units. [4:37:18, 4:37:20]: With a twenty five feet setback. [4:37:22, 4:37:23]: In my district. [4:37:24, 4:37:25]: The residents that were here. [4:37:26, 4:37:27]: They expressed their concerns with it. [4:37:28, 4:37:29]: I've done everything I could. [4:37:30, 4:37:31]: To try to get it [4:37:31, 4:37:35]: Through to these developers that I'm not satisfied or happy. [4:37:35, 4:37:36]: With them. [4:37:36, 4:37:38]: in this proposed development. [4:37:39, 4:37:42]: I've made my concerns known from the very beginning. [4:37:43, 4:37:44]: The parking issue. [4:37:44, 4:37:46]: Was a result of them [4:37:46, 4:37:49]: bringing to this council a proposal. [4:37:49, 4:37:51]: For two hundred and fifty units. [4:37:53, 4:37:54]: On the site. [4:37:56, 4:37:58]: They wanted to develop two hundred and fifty units. [4:37:58, 4:38:03]: On this site, I express to them my concerns about on street parking. [4:38:03, 4:38:05]: Their way of addressing it. [4:38:05, 4:38:06]: Is by adding [4:38:07, 4:38:09]: These parking spaces in the middle. [4:38:10, 4:38:13]: And still asking for a twenty five feet setback. [4:38:13, 4:38:14]: I don't support it. [4:38:15, 4:38:30]: That's all. Thank you. I need a motion um council in reference to the proposal before you for the twenty five for the variance change. Sir, I need to make a motion to approve uh the changes as uh was described earlier. Mr. Alexander, is there a second? [4:38:32, 4:38:35]: Mr. Blount, second that. All in favor, please indicate. [4:38:36, 4:38:47]: All right. Three zero one. You abstain. I will submit. I will oppose. Oh, you actually oppose this variance. I'm opposing. Little me jump. This variance. Thank you. Okay. Three one. Motion passed. [4:38:49, 4:38:50]: All right. [4:38:51, 4:38:52]: Thank you, gentlemen. [4:38:52, 4:38:53]: Thank you everybody. [4:38:56, 4:39:04]: All right. What we have next, new business. Council of consideration to approve the economic development incentives policy framework. Mr. Lance, please. [4:39:04, 4:39:05]: Mm. [4:39:09, 4:39:12]: What's your work for? [4:39:33, 4:39:53]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Kim Alons, Economic Development Director. I'm here before you this evening to uh present the Economic Development Incensus Policy. Uh, just for background information, the policy was presented to council at the last retreat. And last month we also sent the policy for review and [4:39:53, 4:40:13]: And feedback from council. And last week we actually conducted a few council briefings and got some feedback from council. So what is in front of you tonight is a result of those public feedback that we received. As I always like to begin my presentation with the C. [4:40:13, 4:40:33]: City vision and I will uh read that. Our goal is to be the most progressive business and family-oriented community in Metro Atlanta. So before I talk about the policy itself, I want to take some time to talk about what do we mean by when we talk about incentives in economic development. So what is a [4:40:33, 4:40:45]: An incentive. An incentive is a reward intended to induce, incite, or spur action. In economic development, it is defined as [4:40:46, 4:41:06]: something that is used to attract or retain investment within a community or a targeted neighborhood in that community to lowering a firm's cost of doing business. There are several types of incentives. They can be direct financial incentives, tax incentives, indirect financial incentives, non-financial incentives. [4:41:06, 4:41:26]: And finally, special incentives. As you can see in front of you, um we have a few. For example, a direct financial incentive would be something like loans, guarantees, revolving loan funds, something like a tax incentives would be tax exemptions or abatements, and not to go through all of them, but especially [4:41:26, 4:41:42]: Special incentive would be tax increment financing. The policy that is in front of you uses a combination of that. And let me s just say that the only direct and s financial incentive or cash incentive that we're proposing would be a job creation, which I'll go through later. [4:41:43, 4:41:45]: So why should we do this in the first place? [4:41:48, 4:41:53]: The area development magazine, which is a premiere magazine for uh development [4:41:55, 4:42:10]: in our economic development world, they um survey site selectors and corporations annually and they ask them when you're trying to make a business location decision, what factors play into that? And as you can see in front of you [4:42:11, 4:42:31]: Almost every year l state and local incentives as part of the top ten, among other things. Now what we're saying is not that incentives are the reason why someone will make a l location decision, however, it is an important tool to have in our economic development toolbox. [4:42:31, 4:42:33]: And that's why we are in front of you today. [4:42:36, 4:42:38]: So what does the policy do? [4:42:39, 4:42:51]: So basically, the goal of this policy is to outline the policies, processes, and review procedures that we're going to be using to review and offer major incentives in the city. [4:42:51, 4:43:11]: The incentive that we're policy that we're creating is based on our economic development priorities. And we have ten listed in the full policy, but I just have three in front of in this presentation just for context and reference. For example, it is to enhance our cities' competitiveness. It is to increase or encourage mixed use development. [4:43:11, 4:43:15]: It is to create high wage, high value jobs. [4:43:16, 4:43:34]: Now, in terms of how the policy is set up, application and awards will be determined based on metrics that we've established. The metrics are based on our economic development priorities, on the capital investment, the number of jobs that are gonna be created, and the average weekly wage. [4:43:35, 4:43:40]: The maximum score that someone can receive based on these metrics. [4:43:40, 4:43:42]: is one hundred. [4:43:44, 4:43:54]: In order to award the incentives, we created some we created some guidelines based on tiers. For example, in order to get into tier one, you need a minimum score of forty. [4:43:54, 4:43:59]: Tier two, sixty, tier three, eighty, tier four, ninety. [4:44:00, 4:44:02]: The available incentives that we're proposing [4:44:02, 4:44:22]: are tax increment financing, permit and impact fee waivers, business license and occupational tax waivers, water and sewer abatements, job creation incentive, and downtown revolving loan fund. We also have tax abatement. Now some of these tools are tools that are subject to approval either by us or by another entity. The reason why [4:44:22, 4:44:42]: Why we include them is because we wanted this policy to be as comprehensive and as holistic as possible because we have some tools in our toolbox that we can use at the moment. So as we're creating the policy, we're going to make sure that we leave that opportunity as those tools get added into our toolbox. Just to give you an example, we've been talking about creating a TAD, and that is something [4:44:42, 4:44:58]: something that the policy contemplates, although the TAD is not fully implemented yet, because we are working with our partners to make that happen. Now, once that is part of our toolbox, then this policy would cover that. So we're just trying to cover everything that we can with this policy. [4:45:01, 4:45:21]: Just to give you an idea of the possible tax and possible incentives, you have tax abatement. The tax abatement would be provided on a reimbursement basis, and the maximum that someone can get is a 90% reimbursement on the city's portion of the tax, and that is subject to implementation again. And the maximum would be 10 years. [4:45:20, 4:45:40]: Tax increment financing subject to tail implementation would be again on a reimbursement basis with a maximum of 90% reimbursement for a maximum of 10 years. Permit and impact fee waivers would be for certain permit and impact fee waivers, it would be a reduction of up to 50% subject to the tier, and it is a one-time reimbursement. [4:45:41, 4:45:49]: Business and license business license and occupational tax waivers, that would be a maximum of twenty-five thousand up to five years based on the tier. [4:45:49, 4:46:09]: Order and sewer rebates, same idea. Reimbursement basis up to 50% for up to five years, based on the tier. Job creation incentive. As I mentioned before, this would be the only cash incentive that it would be provided. That would be uh based on key industries that the policy outlines for maximum. [4:46:09, 4:46:12]: For a minimum of five jobs rather. [4:46:12, 4:46:28]: And they would be able to receive two thousand per job based on high wage, high value jobs, which is defined in the policy. And that would be an additional bonus if the jobs are located in the downtown area as we're trying to revitalize and redevelop downtown. [4:46:30, 4:46:50]: We also have a state job tax credit, which is based on state designation of an opportunity zone. We included that in the policy. And the requirement from the state is that you create a minimum of two jobs to receive up to$3,500 per job. And that is taken against the company's Georgia tax liability and payroll withholding tax. [4:46:50, 4:46:50]: Yeah. [4:46:51, 4:46:54]: And then finally we have the downtown revolving loan fund, which is a [4:46:54, 4:46:57]: pro is which is a program that is supported by the state [4:46:57, 4:46:59]: Through DCA. [4:46:59, 4:47:10]: And the way that program works is a municipality or a local entity such as the Downtown Development Authority needs to support that project. So that is something we would add in our toolbox as well. [4:47:13, 4:47:15]: How would we process with this? [4:47:16, 4:47:35]: If someone were to uh apply for this, for first of all, we would do what we call a pre-application meeting to make sure that um whatever they're proposing is within our economic development priorities, then the incentive application itself would be submitted to our economic development department for review. [4:47:35, 4:47:38]: Uh staff would review it and evaluate based on [4:47:39, 4:47:43]: a few things. It is important when we talk about incentives to mention that [4:47:44, 4:47:57]: We only give incentives to things that we want to encourage, we want to incite. And as we give incentives, we want to make sure that we're protecting the city, that we don't give more than we receive in terms of benefits. So that's why it's important to conduct [4:47:57, 4:48:17]: a cost benefit analysis, which the city will do as part of that process. And based on on our own analysis, we would make recommendations to the city manager. The city manager then would take a look at the recommendation and decide whether or not this needs to come to city council for final approval. And if council approves then we would move to [4:48:17, 4:48:19]: what we call an implementation. [4:48:20, 4:48:25]: Oh typically it's a developer's agreement or an agreement of some sort with a corporation. [4:48:26, 4:48:28]: I've said a lot of stuff, so [4:48:30, 4:48:35]: To just give give you a case study, um, to take a look at what would that look like in in reality. [4:48:36, 4:48:44]: Let's say, for example, we have a mixed-use development and it's about 300 units. It would include some restaurants and offices. [4:48:44, 4:48:47]: And the total capital investment would be around sixty million. [4:48:47, 4:48:56]: The total jobs would be five, and the salary would be considered higher than the county average. So, based on the key metrics that we have developed. [4:48:56, 4:49:13]: When we look at ED priorities, which is economic development priorities, we determine that, you know, this project would score twenty, the capital investment would score twenty-five, the number of jobs would score five, and the average weekly wage would score fifteen, which would bring the overall score to sixty-five. [4:49:14, 4:49:21]: Now in terms of applicable tier, the a this particular application would be around the second tier. [4:49:21, 4:49:41]: Based on the second tier, this is what the applicant would be eligible for. Now let me say this: just because they're eligible for it does not mean that they're gonna get everything that they requested or everything that they're eligible for, because again, it is all about cost-benefit analysis. So the analysis would determine what can we can give them. [4:49:41, 4:49:47]: them as a municipality. So tax abatement again that would be between 50 to 70 percent. [4:49:47, 4:49:58]: The TIFF credits right now it's non applicable because we don't know what those are. Uh permit and impact fee waivers, they would get a thirty percent re reduction, and that is a one time reduction. [4:49:59, 4:50:19]: Water and sewer rebates, they would get 30% reduction up to three years. Uh business license and tax waivers and occupational tax waivers, they would get up to fifteen thousand, up to three years. And for the job incentives, they would get a thousand for the five jobs for two years, which would be a total of ten thousand dollars. And finally, [4:50:19, 4:50:36]: Uh well the state job tax credits would be subject to state designation, so we don't know what that is yet. Uh and then finally the D the RLF, it's if it's a downtown property, we would be recommending approval for it. So that is just to give you an idea of what in reality something like that could look like. [4:50:38, 4:50:41]: With that being said, I'll be more than happy to take any questions. [4:50:41, 4:51:01]: I thank you for the presentation, uh, Mr. Lott. Council, any questions? Just a comment. Sorry if we had you waiting there, but uh we you're here. I certainly appreciate it. You're certainly on the right track going in the right direction. And if you tuned in, please understand that we're interested in bringing you downtown and [4:51:01, 4:51:21]: And certainly, we certainly have had a business owner use the revolving loan fund for a project in excess of a million dollars downtown. And we're moving through that process right now. Mr. Alonce, is that correct? Yes. So in essence, if you're looking to come to Stockbridge, you secure financing and you can't come up with the [4:51:21, 4:51:36]: the total amount needed, we provide gap financing through the Revolving Loan Fund through the Downtown Development Authority. And we're assisting business owners doing that. And we can assist you if you come and join the Downtown Renaissance. Thank you. [4:51:38, 4:51:40]: Any uh comments from the council? [4:51:41, 4:51:49]: Okay. Not in the motion, go ahead to accept this uh economic development uh incentive policy. [4:51:49, 4:51:55]: So moved. Is there a second? Mr. Alexander um Mr Thomas Secondette, all in favor, please indicate. [4:51:56, 4:52:16]: NASA decision. Okay, thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much for council. Appreciate it. Okay, I have a bunch of announcements and upcoming meetings and events. Um council meetings will be held, uh city council chambers noting some board and committee meetings will be will uh will continue to take place by way of Zoom. Meeting dates and times are subject to change. Please visit the city's website at W [4:52:16, 4:52:36]: www.city of stopbridge.com for meeting invitation link, Facebook page, or contact City Hall offices, 770-389-7900 for any type of updates. Citywide Development Authority meeting, second Tuesday of each month, 6 p.m. on May 9th. Main Street Advisory Board meetings [4:52:35, 4:52:55]: second Friday of each month, 9 o'clock a.m. in the Welcome Center 130 Martin Luther King Senior Heritage Trail, which is May 12th. Downtown Development Authority meeting third Tuesday of each month. Welcome Center 130 Martin Luther King Senior Heritage Trail May 16th. U Council Advisory Committee meeting 630 [4:52:55, 4:53:15]: P.M. third to third Tuesday of each month in the Levi Meeting Room in City Hall, May 16th. Planning Commission meeting 6:30. City Council Chambers fourth Thursday of each month, May 25th. City Council Work Session meeting last Tuesday of each month, 6 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers, May 30th. City Council meeting second Monday of each month. [4:53:15, 4:53:35]: 6 p.m. in City Hall Chambers, which is June 12th. The U Council meeting is 6:30 PM, second Monday of each month, City Hall, Levi Meeting Room, and June 12th. Upcoming events, join us for Food Truck Tasty Tuesday, 5:30, 8:30, Clark Park Community. [4:53:35, 4:53:38]: Park Clark Community Park. [4:53:38, 4:53:58]: 111 Davis Row, lots of great food activities for everyone. Save the date. Carrie May Hammer Day, Saturday, May 13th. More information, follow contact, Councilman Thomas, 404-247-4972 for more information. Join Councilman Thomas for Don't Trash. Stockbridge centered around education, highlighting the causes. [4:53:58, 4:54:18]: effects of littering and illegal dumping. More information to follow on that as well. Henry for Music H F H F M presents a ASEP violin class and music program in Cotton Indian of Cotton Indian, Red Oak and Fairview Elementary Schools as students from [4:54:18, 4:54:38]: The HFM Youth Orchestra United Join Through Music, Joy Through Music. Spring concert 2023 on Tuesday, May 16th, and uh 2023, of course, 7 p.m. of Merle Manders Conference Center, and we'll feature Mare Po Tam Barber on the violin. RN Veterans and continued salute to all. [4:54:38, 4:54:58]: year long. Please send your pictures to veterans with their name, branch, rank, and years of service to Councilman Thomas. Sends a salute to honor veterans all year long here. Please send them pictures to R Rawls at city of Stockbridge dash G A dot G O V And obviously um Memorial Day weekend's coming up so we'll be honoring our [4:54:58, 4:55:18]: are uh individuals that have passed away based on their service and uh to our country with a memorial day march more information following that as well join Marepro Tam Barber for a free Zuma every Saturday 8 a.m beginning May 6th at Gardner Park on East Atlanta Road. The City of Stockbridge Police Department is conducting a [4:55:18, 4:55:38]: Teddy bear drive to benefit our partners at the Georgia Center for Child Advocacy. New and gently used teddy bears can be left at the police department located 4545 North Henry Boulevard or scan the QR code on the city's website to purchase one from Amazon. Bears are used to comfort children receiving certain children. [4:55:38, 4:55:58]: And receiving services for after significant incidents. And of course, meet the mayor. Um, it's coming up soon as well. I believe it's set from May 30th, I should know that 10 to noon. And then ask me a call, Ros and Raws at 68-678-833-3348. And for my particular comments. [4:55:58, 4:56:18]: I would first like to say happy Mother's Day to you mothers, all right out that are out there. It's this coming weekend, it's Sunday. And for Mother's Day, I want you to know that there are still tickets available to see Maxwell at the Amphitheater Saturday night and/or Sunday night. Matter of fact, you can buy tickets for both nights. Come and see them two nights in a row, right? So come to the amphitheater and enjoy the [4:56:18, 4:56:33]: that uh wonderful sir uh wonderful concert. Uh COVID-19 is still still around us, so make sure you take all your vaccinations and boosters as needed and all the additional things that you need to be healthy. Let's see here. [4:56:34, 4:56:39]: Well th the other comment I'd like to make is that uh believe it or not, the the the Vanessa holiday [4:56:39, 4:56:41]: The c city clerk and I [4:56:41, 4:56:43]: completed the inaugural cohort [4:56:44, 4:57:04]: Uh certification for completion of uh diversity equity inclusion class with GMA just the other day. And so we're part of that initial class, so had a great time learning a lot of things about diversity, equity, inclusion, and things that we want to implement here with the city itself. So uh congratulations to Miss Holiday and for uh [4:57:04, 4:57:23]: uh hanging with me and keeping me awake during the classes. All right. And as far as I know we have no um second session issues or or things to talk about. So on that note, uh council I'd like to ask for a motion to end our council meeting. So moved. Is there a second? Second. All right. All in favor please indicate. [4:57:23, 4:57:25]: God bless y'all. We are done for tonight. [4:57:28, 4:57:29]: Oh Jesus.

--- title: Planning Commission date: 2023-04-27 source: 2023-04-27_Planning_Commission.wav --- [0:02:35, 0:02:36]: [158.3, 160.8]: [0:04:37, 0:04:45]: I'm gonna ask you to do the invitation. No, okay. Tibetal. Tibetan. Mr. Thibodeau. [0:04:47, 0:04:50]: So now I can do it. [0:04:51, 0:04:53]: I'm gonna need to get through this. [0:04:58, 0:05:00]: Doomers the person. [0:05:00, 0:05:01]: If you have the answer to the time. [0:05:03, 0:05:04]: Like [0:05:08, 0:05:25]: Come on, Doom. You got that preacher for us. Doom was got it. Because he sounds just like a preacher. Uh oh. Good evening everyone. [0:05:26, 0:05:29]: We're gonna go ahead and call the planning commission meeting to order. [0:05:31, 0:05:35]: And we will start with the invocation. Mr. Thibodeau. [0:05:35, 0:05:37]: You must don't miss that. [0:05:38, 0:05:38]: Mm-hmm. [0:05:39, 0:05:40]: Okay, you got it. [0:05:41, 0:05:48]: Let us pray. Living God as we gather together here tonight to conduct the business of the city. [0:05:49, 0:06:00]: We invite you to enter in our hearts and guide our thoughts and control our lives so that we may continue to be servants of all. Amen. [0:06:00, 0:06:01]: Amen. [0:06:03, 0:06:05]: If everyone would stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. [0:06:06, 0:06:08]: And we can all say it in unison. [0:06:09, 0:06:21]: I pledge allegiance to the flag to the United States of America, to the Republic which stands, a nation under God, indivisible, with liberty, justice for all. [0:06:29, 0:06:32]: Okay. Miss Logan is gonna do the roll call. [0:06:39, 0:06:41]: I ski abdul. [0:06:42, 0:06:49]: Kathleen Nelson. Present. Stanley Dumas. Present. Harold Thoubodeau. Present. David Planchon. [0:06:50, 0:06:50]: President [0:06:53, 0:06:55]: Madam Chairman, we have a quorum. [0:06:58, 0:06:59]: Okay. [0:07:02, 0:07:07]: So we are gonna move forward with the adoption of the agenda. [0:07:09, 0:07:10]: For this evening. [0:07:10, 0:07:11]: If someone would [0:07:13, 0:07:18]: Make a motion to adopt the agenda. Madam Chair, I move that we adopt the agenda as presented. [0:07:19, 0:07:20]: May I have a second? [0:07:23, 0:07:26]: I'll second it. Harold Thibodeau second it. [0:07:28, 0:07:29]: Okay. [0:07:30, 0:07:32]: So we can now have the agenda adopted. Hold it. [0:07:33, 0:07:43]: Excuse me, could I I'm sorry. Repeat who made the motion and then who seconded, please? Okay for each item. Mr. Dumas made the motion and Mr. Thibodeau seconded the motion. [0:07:45, 0:07:47]: Take bite, take bite. [0:07:48, 0:07:54]: Okay. May have a vote in favor of the agenda. All in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. [0:07:55, 0:07:59]: Okay. It has been approved to adopt today's agenda. [0:08:00, 0:08:01]: Yeah. [0:08:02, 0:08:10]: All right, now we're gonna approve the minutes for the January twenty-sixth, two thousand twenty-three meeting, if everyone would review it. [0:08:14, 0:08:18]: And let us know if any corrections need to be made. [0:08:44, 0:08:52]: Okay, may I have a motion to adopt adopt the January minutes? Mr. David Planchon, I'd like to make a motion to accept the minutes as written. [0:08:52, 0:08:53]: May I have a second? [0:08:53, 0:08:56]: And I second it. Harold Thibodeau. [0:08:56, 0:08:57]: All in favor? [0:08:58, 0:08:59]: Aye. Aye. [0:09:00, 0:09:05]: Okay, and we will move to have the January twenty-sixth, two thousand twenty-three [0:09:05, 0:09:06]: Minutes approved. [0:09:09, 0:09:12]: Did you uh get that lender who made the motion? [0:09:14, 0:09:15]: Okay, thank you. [0:09:17, 0:09:18]: Okay. [0:09:18, 0:09:20]: And Miss Linda. [0:09:20, 0:09:24]: You want to continue by presenting the rest of the information for this evening? [0:09:31, 0:09:36]: Uh madam chair, we're actually ready to uh move into the agenda at this time. [0:09:58, 0:10:05]: So at this time, um Madam Vice Chair will read the uh agenda item um as a our first public hearing. [0:10:05, 0:10:06]: I'm sorry. [0:10:06, 0:10:12]: I said we will um need to go through and go ahead and read through the first item on the agenda as a public hearing. [0:10:12, 0:10:15]: Okay, so you want me to read it? Okay. All right. [0:10:19, 0:10:26]: So the first thing is the city of Stockbridge adoption of the combined official zoning and overlay district map. [0:10:26, 0:10:28]: Number O Z M two zero. [0:10:28, 0:10:30]: Two three zero one. [0:10:31, 0:10:43]: Consideration of amend read the whole thing. You can read all the way through. Okay. Consideration of amendments to the official zoning map and overlay district map in accordance with the resolution and refer referendum annexation method. [0:10:43, 0:10:47]: voted upon during the November eighth, two thousand twenty two election. [0:10:48, 0:10:51]: There are approximately two thousand two hundred and two. [0:10:52, 0:10:56]: plus or minus new parcels to be added to the Stockbridge city boundaries. [0:10:56, 0:11:02]: As indicated within House Bill six twelve, including but not limited to twenty-three subdivision communities. [0:11:03, 0:11:05]: And parcels primarily consisting [0:11:05, 0:11:09]: Of one thousand five hundred and seven plus or minus single family residential. [0:11:09, 0:11:13]: One hundred and f five combined commercial and industrial, etcetera. [0:11:13, 0:11:20]: The zoning and overlay district map will be combined as a single document. The previous zoning map and overlay district map. [0:11:20, 0:11:24]: adopted on march fourteenth, two thousand twenty two will be repealed and replaced. [0:11:26, 0:11:28]: To be presented by the community development staff. [0:11:30, 0:11:50]: Number eight, the final plat case, number PL. We're just dealing with the first case, um chair. So thank you very much. So um before you, Madam Chair and um planning commissioners, uh we have the um zoning map, which has been combined with our overlay district map. As you might recall, last March when the unified [0:11:50, 0:12:00]: development code was adopted. We also adopted a zoning map, an official zoning map, and also an official overlay district map. [0:12:00, 0:12:20]: Since the annexation passed in November, the annexed properties came into the city effective January 1st, 2023. And with that, we needed to apply zoning to those parcels as they came into the city limits. So what we have before you is the proposed zoning [0:12:20, 0:12:40]: Districts and the overlay districts based on what the state annexation code requires the jurisdiction to do. It requires us to bring in a zoning from the county that into a compatible zoning district for the city. And that's what we've done here. [0:12:40, 0:13:00]: So you have also a a larger map in front of you. So please let me know if you have any questions. Again, the idea was to combine the official zoning map and the f the overlay district map so that we didn't have to look at two separate maps. And sometimes it's tough for people to look at that and not know. [0:13:00, 0:13:05]: whether they're in an overlay district or not, just by looking at the zoning. So we've tried to solve that here. [0:13:16, 0:13:19]: You may have already answered my question, but [0:13:21, 0:13:31]: I really wanted to understand who benefits from combining the maps. Is it for staff's benefit or is it for the public's benefit or [0:13:31, 0:13:51]: It's it's primarily for the public's benefit and for staffs because what we're our goal is to once this ad uh plan is adopted, then we would put this information online and make it an interactive map so that not only residents and business owners can look at their property based on the address or the parcel ID number. [0:13:51, 0:13:53]: Де ставки аз. [0:13:54, 0:14:09]: And that helps us to make sure that we're more accurate in our assessment of the zoning. And it helps to, you know, serve our customers in a more streamlined way. So they don't necessarily have to call us. They can go online and find the zoning themselves. [0:14:10, 0:14:17]: I guess my only concern um is I'm having difficulty reading it. Um [0:14:19, 0:14:26]: Not the zoning part, but the overlay districts seemed like it got more complicated than it was pre when they were separate. [0:14:26, 0:14:46]: So we haven't w what we only done are added in um we haven't added many districts to the mixed use overlay, only those that are along those major corridors where they already were located, like 138 and Eagles Landing and parts of Rock Quarry. So the map you have in front of you that you were provided is roll. [0:14:46, 0:15:06]: Rolled up next to you has the hatched the marks that show what whether a property has an overlay district tied to it in darker lines so it is easier to see. Having, you know, this is this is a a screenshot put here for you guys to review, but the actual document itself will be. [0:15:06, 0:15:12]: much clearer and easily to be read. Also when you put your pointer on that parcel. [0:15:12, 0:15:23]: it will outline for you the zoning and the overlay district that you are in. So it will provide that as part of the interactive map we are looking to create as a result of this approval. [0:15:23, 0:15:24]: Gotcha. [0:15:27, 0:15:28]: Are there any other questions? [0:15:32, 0:15:35]: I have a motion to adopt to adopt them. [0:15:38, 0:15:52]: Madam Chairman Stan Dumas, I move that we adopt this combination as presented. What one second, I'm sorry, this is a public hearing, so we would have to get the public's input on on this item. No problem, no problem. [0:15:54, 0:15:57]: We only do this every w once every two or three years. [0:16:01, 0:16:06]: Well you can open you you can open it up for anyone to speak in favor or opposition. [0:16:15, 0:16:17]: Thank you. [0:16:18, 0:16:25]: They they can't hear you. Y your mic is on? Oh, sorry. Okay. Are there any comments um from the public at this time? [0:16:27, 0:16:29]: Okay, since there are no comments from the public. [0:16:29, 0:16:33]: Uh may I have a motion to adopt the combined official zoning and overlay district map? [0:16:35, 0:16:36]: Oh move. [0:16:37, 0:16:38]: Do I have a second? [0:16:39, 0:16:40]: I second it, Harold. [0:16:41, 0:16:46]: Okay. May have a fo a vote now. All in favor, say aye. [0:16:46, 0:16:49]: Aye. Aye. Are there any opposed? [0:16:50, 0:16:54]: Okay, the eyes have it and we will now adopt [0:16:55, 0:16:56]: The motion. [0:16:56, 0:16:58]: For the official zoning and overlay district. [0:16:58, 0:16:59]: Thank you. [0:17:01, 0:17:08]: All right, move on to number eight, the final plat case, number PL two zero two, three, z dash zero one. [0:17:09, 0:17:13]: Consideration of a final plat for the proposed Eagles Hill Townhomes. [0:17:15, 0:17:19]: FKA Eagles Ridge Townhomes entitled Final Plat for Eagles Hill. [0:17:20, 0:17:25]: Which was prepared by Falcon Design Consultants and dated march third, two thousand twenty-three. [0:17:25, 0:17:31]: The project would be a component of the Winding Creek master plan as approved by City Council via ordinance. [0:17:31, 0:17:35]: Number OR eighteen dash four five, which requires the development. [0:17:35, 0:17:39]: To comply with the specifications of the city's previous RM dash two. [0:17:40, 0:17:42]: Multiple family resident district. [0:17:42, 0:17:44]: Townhouses zoning district. [0:17:44, 0:17:47]: The applicant proposes to develop eighty town home lots on [0:17:48, 0:17:53]: nineteen point si five seven acres at a density of four point zero eight units per acre. [0:17:53, 0:17:56]: The applicant Falcon Design Consultants. [0:17:56, 0:18:02]: The property is located on Campground Road and Highway forty two and landlots thirty three and thirty-four. [0:18:02, 0:18:03]: Of district seven. [0:18:05, 0:18:05]: Mm. [0:18:06, 0:18:22]: Okay. Yes, so um this item before you, the the code states that um all final plats are to be approved and reviewed by the Planning Commission in order for the developers to obtain building permits to start building on the property. [0:18:22, 0:18:23]: Um [0:18:23, 0:18:29]: Typically during the development phase, the civil engineer and the building inspectors will go out [0:18:29, 0:18:49]: work with the developers on ensuring that the roads are up to par, sidewalks are in, utilities are in properly in order to get to this point. Public works is also involved in this process. And before you we have the final plat again for Eagles Hill, formerly Eagles Ridge, [0:18:49, 0:19:09]: who was uh it was I think we when we annexed we realized there was another Eagles Ridge within this the county and was going to be in the city limits. So the name was changed to Eagles Hill and currently the applicants are asking for AD lots, townhomes, as part of the master plan as was mentioned earlier. [0:19:09, 0:19:20]: to the single family homes and the townhomes that are directly across the street on Campground Road. And if we just require an approval for it. But it is not a public hearing. [0:19:22, 0:19:24]: All right. Are there any questions about this? [0:19:26, 0:19:27]: Okay. [0:19:27, 0:19:42]: I I have a question. I really don't know enough about it. Uh what what was presented to us on this particular final plat case number PL twenty twenty three dash zero one. You you have the information on that except what we read? [0:19:43, 0:19:47]: You have the plat in your in your folders? [0:19:49, 0:20:09]: I'm sorry, I cannot hear you. We were invited to come out there and look at the area that oh no, you I think you're thinking of an the other project on Johtaco Road. Okay. Um no, this is a project that for any project that comes into the city that is getting a building permits, they require are required to have a final plat. [0:20:09, 0:20:28]: which means that the city is going to accept the roads, going to accept the maintenance and things like that. That is a separate process that's done through the city council. And they are required to go through this process in order to get building permits and start building on the property. [0:20:34, 0:20:44]: So where are we on this right now, as far as this particular piece of uh property? Have they uh w where are we with the city on this? [0:20:44, 0:21:04]: Well, they're the they're at this point where they have gone through and uh developed the property and prepped the land. They put in the sidewalks, utilities, curb and gutter, streets, um, so that they can start the building process. So they've met the state requirements and all of city requirements as it pertains to um [0:21:04, 0:21:06]: Um getting the property ready for building. [0:21:07, 0:21:13]: So basically they've met all their permits and requirements to develop the land. They have at this time, yes, sir. Okay. [0:21:15, 0:21:25]: Uh we do have someone representing the applicant in case there are questions uh for then. Mr. Romeris is here. Can he come up and tell us more about it so we have a better understanding? [0:21:26, 0:21:26]: Yeah. [0:21:31, 0:21:51]: Hello, how are you? My name is Francisco Ramirez and I am a land development manager manager for Meritage Homes. Um so for this property, as Breca said, um it's it's we're we're the the site is developed, so we have curb and gutter, roads, the entrance monuments in utilities. Uh we went through the city to get all the approvals, the permits. [0:21:51, 0:21:57]: So we are at the process where we are ready for planning so we can get our building permits to start building. [0:22:01, 0:22:06]: Have we done a traffic study for that area? Uh do you have that also? [0:22:06, 0:22:26]: All of all of the because this is part of a larger plan, all these studies had been done previously. Um Campground Road was upgraded by the county, um, it's under county jurisdiction, and they made improvements to it uh several years ago. Um so um there would be no required additional [0:22:26, 0:22:38]: traffic study as this overall development had to have met their minimum requirements for road improvements back when the original single family homes were being built. [0:22:42, 0:22:43]: All right, thank you. [0:22:47, 0:22:50]: No questions by me, Miss Nelson. [0:23:05, 0:23:06]: Final flat case. [0:23:08, 0:23:18]: PL two zero two three dashes. I'm sorry. Uh may I have a motion to adopt the final plaque case number PL two zero two three- zero one? [0:23:23, 0:23:27]: Madam Chair, I move that we adopt the flat case that's presented. [0:23:28, 0:23:30]: And I second it, Harold. [0:23:32, 0:23:35]: Okay, all in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye. [0:23:36, 0:23:37]: Any opposed? [0:23:40, 0:23:47]: Okay, so moved we will adopt the final plaque case, PL two zero two three- zero one. Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank you, uh Planning Commissioners. [0:23:49, 0:23:53]: Okay, moving on to the comprehensive plan amendment case. [0:23:53, 0:23:56]: Number CP dash two zero two two dash zero six. [0:23:57, 0:24:00]: Consideration of a comprehensive plan amendment request. [0:24:00, 0:24:05]: To assign the future land use designation of property property located at [0:24:05, 0:24:10]: Five seven six Davis Road, parcel number S zero five dash zero. [0:24:10, 0:24:11]: One zero zero. [0:24:12, 0:24:13]: two zero zero zero. [0:24:13, 0:24:18]: To high density residential to allow for the construction of a town home development. [0:24:18, 0:24:21]: Applicant four star real estate group, USA Incorporated. [0:24:21, 0:24:22]: Agent. [0:24:22, 0:24:24]: Alex Brock of Smith. [0:24:24, 0:24:26]: Gambrel and Russell. [0:24:26, 0:24:28]: L L P the property is located in land lot. [0:24:29, 0:24:34]: ninety one of district twelve and it contains twenty seven point six three five plus or minus acres. [0:24:41, 0:24:44]: And we'll now have the presentation. [0:24:45, 0:24:46]: That's my presentation. [0:25:00, 0:25:01]: Oh my god. [0:25:03, 0:25:05]: Uh uh [0:25:17, 0:25:32]: All right. Good evening, Planning Commission members. My name is Gordon Linton, Planner One for the City of Stockbridge, and I'm here to present the case for CP twenty twenty two-0 six, located at five seventy six Davis Road in Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:25:36, 0:25:56]: And these are the case facts. The applicant is four-star USA Real Estate Group, and the applicant's request is to assign the future land use destination of the property to high-density residential to allow the development of a townhome community with 170 units. The number of proposed units [0:25:56, 0:26:16]: Units per acre is 6.15 units per acre. The address of the property, as mentioned earlier, is 576 Davis Road. And the project characteristics, they have three single-family residences and a detached garage. In addition, it is a long, narrow, long-wood. [0:26:16, 0:26:29]: and narrow lot that slopes downward to the north where a stream and buffer are located. Currently, the city land use designation is Low Density Residential and the sign was posted on January 9th, 2023. [0:26:35, 0:26:55]: This is the City of Stockbridge comprehensive plan for 2018 through 2038. The future land use designation map designates the subject project property as low density residential. However, the current future land use map is compatible with the requested resulting to MFR, which is multifamily residential. [0:26:54, 0:27:02]: Therefore, the applicant is seeking a comprehensive plan amendment to assign a future land use designation to high density residential. [0:27:06, 0:27:26]: And this is the map, this is a feature land use map of five seventy six Davis Road. As you can see, the property is um low density residential and is mostly surrounded by either medium density to the east and to the west, and you also have a high density over here on the western portion as well. [0:27:30, 0:27:39]: And you also have Walmart here too as well. So it's low density, medium density, and also high density in that area, in the surrounding area. [0:27:43, 0:28:03]: The surrounding land use destination, the property to the north is low density residential with single family detached homes located along Valley Hill Road. The property to the south is Stopbrace Estates Mobile Home Park, and that is medium density residential. The property to the east is single family detached homes. [0:28:03, 0:28:22]: Which is located alongside Davis Road and Sentry Oaks, which is a duplex subdivision. And they're also medium density. And the property to the west is Pine Hill Estates, which is Mobile Home Park. And you also have Wildwood Estates, which is low density residential, medium density residential as well. [0:28:26, 0:28:46]: And this is the aerial photo of the property. As you can see here on the site, this is 576 Davis Road. And the road, and this is 576 Davis Road, the artillery road. And you also have the Stockbridge Estates, and you also have the Pine Hill Estates, and you also have the Century Oaks. And to the west is Big Oaks Villas, which is located around here. [0:28:46, 0:28:47]: Here and here. [0:28:51, 0:29:11]: The surrounded land use densities. Um, so the number units uh for all of the surrounding areas ranges from ninety-one to two hundred and thirty-three. And with the estimated density per acre is with two and a half units per acre, point eight eight units per acre, one point three units per acre. [0:29:11, 0:29:26]: And you also have four units per acre, three units per acre, and you have one with nine units per acre. And the Davis Rowe Townhomes, which is the pros, is 170 units per acre with six and a half, six point one five units per acre. [0:29:31, 0:29:44]: This is the Davis Town Home, Davis Road Town Homes. Um they also have it will also feature a dog park, uh amenity in the open space area with an open with an eight foot walking trail. [0:29:46, 0:29:49]: And this right here is where Davis Road is as well. [0:29:54, 0:30:14]: The staff analysis, the consistency with the comp comprehensive plan, the requested comprehensive plan of the subject property from low density residential to high density residential is necessary because the current land use does not allow the development of the townhomes. Furthermore, the proposed densities will be compatible with the with the required density for the current [0:30:14, 0:30:34]: Land use destination. In relation to the zoning of the property, the properties requested zoning is non-compatible with the list of permitted uses that are found in the comprehensive plan. To allow the proposed zoning, the applicant has requested that the property be assigned the MFR multi multiple family residential to allow the townhomes to be built. The rezoning will be currently [0:30:33, 0:30:53]: Heard concurrently with this case along with the requested variants. The suitability of the site's location, this proposed high-density residential would be compatible with the high-density residential land use designation of the big Oaks villas located to the east. Furthermore, page 45 of the Stockbridge Comprehensive Plan provides a little [0:30:53, 0:31:13]: list of permitted uses that are compatible with the land use designations, which includes multiple family residential. And maintaining the current land use designation. Maintaining the current land use designation will be allowable for the applicant to develop the townhomes due to its prop proximity from an existing townhome that is located within the area. [0:31:13, 0:31:23]: Furthermore, it is unlikely that the subject property will be developed with the type of uses that are permitted by the existing low density residential use designation. [0:31:27, 0:31:47]: And the staff recommendation. The staff report has demonstrated that the requested comprehensive plan amendment via CP twenty twenty-two-six will be necessary and devo desirable for the subject property in conjunction with the requested zoning of the property via 2022-007 to allow for the proposed. [0:31:46, 0:31:56]: to proposed multifamily units. Therefore, the planning and zoning staff recommends approval of the requested change in the property's future land use designation to high density residential. [0:31:59, 0:32:00]: Close. [0:32:03, 0:32:04]: Right and slasher. [0:32:07, 0:32:08]: Back. [0:32:16, 0:32:36]: Um I did want to make sure that you guys knew about the staff recommendation. We did have one update to it. There are two conditions before you. Um the first condition is the comprehensive plan amendment shall not be approved unless the applicant's request is rezoning via RZ. [0:32:36, 0:32:48]: E-202207 to rezone the property from rural residential to multifamily residential is approved to allow the townhomes to be built. [0:32:48, 0:32:52]: We wanted to make sure we made that additional clarification for the for the record. [0:33:01, 0:33:11]: Okay, I noticed um oh in the summary of impact concern section, there weren't any comments provided by the code compliance in the police department. Was there a reason for that? [0:33:15, 0:33:18]: And then for the fire marshal it says NA. [0:33:20, 0:33:40]: Typically as part of our um evaluation um comments from the police department or code enforcement are not required um for rezoning. They don't have any um impact on the actual land use or zoning that's being proposed before you tonight. We do put that in for rezoning just to address [0:33:40, 0:33:45]: address it um but it is not required for this rezoning process. [0:33:46, 0:33:47]: Okay. [0:33:53, 0:33:55]: Do you all have any questions? [0:33:55, 0:34:15]: Yeah, Madam Chair, I noticed that uh w we don't get any traffic studies. That's that's a lot of homes and what's considered all what's already there, and then you're gonna add a hundred and seventy more town homes. Uh that that will be heard in uh Lynt uh in the Rosona case, which will be presented by [0:34:15, 0:34:16]: Badlander. [0:34:16, 0:34:17]: Okay. [0:34:18, 0:34:19]: I I didn't hear you. What did you say? [0:34:20, 0:34:24]: That will be presented in the rezoning case by Linda as far as the traffic study. Oh okay. [0:34:29, 0:34:49]: The the item before you tonight is this particular item is for the comprehensive plan amendment, which is required before we go through the rezoning process and any variances that are attached to this property. Um so this is simply just for the comprehensive plan amendment. And then we'll talk about the rezoning in the next [0:34:49, 0:34:50]: the next public hearing. [0:34:52, 0:35:03]: I didn't hear the last of what you said. Then we would hear more about the project overall as part of the rezoning, which is part of the next public hearing, which we would need to get um any comments from the public on. [0:35:08, 0:35:10]: Right. Any other questions? [0:35:12, 0:35:12]: Yeah. [0:35:13, 0:35:33]: All right. May I have a motion to adopt the comprehensive plan and we'll need to open it up. You have two options. You can either um have the applicant come up and say anything, um, and then you could have folks who are gonna speak in in favor of the request. Okay. And then folks who wanna speak in opposition of the request before a yes, please may I have the applicant [0:35:33, 0:35:34]: Come and speak. [0:35:46, 0:35:47]: Good evening. Oops. [0:35:48, 0:36:08]: Good evening, Madam Chair and members of the Planning Commission. Uh before I begin, just one point of procedure. Uh since items nine, ten, and eleven uh are all concerning the same property and the uh same development, do we want to take those in order or one at a time? We are taking them one at a time. It's a vote for each one. [0:36:08, 0:36:22]: Okay, so I'll have ten minutes for each No no no you can do it one time. Um but but remember this is for the comprehensive plan amendment, not the rezounding. That's the rezounding is next. That's why I just wanted clarification if I need to come back up here three times or [0:36:23, 0:36:31]: Yes. Yes. But not to do not to present the same thing the whole time, but come up in in favor of understanding I'll present just the comp plan this time. Sounds good. [0:36:32, 0:36:45]: Um but a lot of the facts may overlap, but so you know. And before I begin I have one handout. This was uh emailed to uh planning staff earlier today, but it is the letter of support that we've received from a uh adjacent neighbor. [0:36:53, 0:37:06]: Again, good evening, Madam Chair and Planning Commission. My name is Alex Brock with Smith Gambrel Russell. I'm here on behalf of the applicant of Fourstar USA Real Estate Group. Joining me tonight, I have Jack Burke and Reyn Ghiazzoni with Four Star. [0:37:07, 0:37:11]: Uh and we are here to discuss our application for a comprehensive plan amendment. [0:37:12, 0:37:32]: To uh change the land use designation from low density residential to high density residential. Uh and before we get into what we are proposing, I just wanted to kind of go through uh what brings us here tonight, because this has been somewhat of a long journey for us. We originally submitted this back in October of last year. Um [0:37:32, 0:37:42]: And we began discussions with the city uh approximately August of last year uh on this development. And and the plan that's before you tonight has gone through a number of changes. Um uh [0:37:43, 0:38:03]: To come to what you see here tonight. Initially, we had considered a townhome development of 252 units. That would have been a density of 9.11 units per acre. That was lowered to 235 units. The 235 unit plan was submitted with the application in October. After meeting with uh planning staff as well. [0:38:03, 0:38:23]: Well as uh other stakeholders in the city. Uh we went back and revised our plan to drop the units even further. Uh we're at we're now at 170 units, so that's been a reduction of uh over 30 percent. Uh so what we have now is two-thirds of what we initially proposed. And we've also made another number of other [0:38:23, 0:38:43]: Uh changes to the site and upgrades. Uh we've included the addition of a clubhouse, uh, 10-foot sidewalks along Davis Drive that connect to the internal community, uh, increased guest parking throughout, uh, and others that I'll mention through the course of my presentation. Uh some amenities were uh [0:38:42, 0:38:53]: included from the beginning like the playground, the dog park and the the nature trails that we have at the rear of the property. Uh but let me skip to the comp plan amendment. [0:38:54, 0:39:13]: Again, we are requesting uh a comp plan amendment to high density residential, and that is to facilitate the uh proposed multifamily residential zoning, which would allow the town home use. Uh it also allows the uh proposed density that we are requesting, which is six point one five uh units per acre. [0:39:14, 0:39:34]: The current land use, low density residential, does not allow townhomes. And there's also a little bit of a quirk in the comp plan currently. The low density residential allows a density of up to two units per acre. Medium density allows two to three point six units per acre. And then there's a gap until you get to the high density. [0:39:34, 0:39:54]: Density goes from six to sixteen units per acre. So there's no available land use for between 3.6 and 6 units per acre. We are at the very low end of the high density residential land use at 6.15. We're not trying to max it out. We're not trying to go for 16. [0:39:54, 0:40:00]: And in fact, we've loaded it substantially from our initial proposal. [0:40:00, 0:40:15]: And this is in line with uh townhome developments that are in the area. As staff pointed out, the big oak develop our big oak townhomes our big oak villas townhomes uh further down Davis Road to the east of our property are currently at nine units per acre. [0:40:17, 0:40:18]: Um [0:40:21, 0:40:41]: We are also aligned with a number of comp plan uh goals of the comprehensive plan. Uh the comprehensive plan notes that uh one of the goals is to provide a variety of housing choices to suit the changing needs and lifestyles of city residents, uh, provide a mixture of housing options to attract young professionals, singles, and small families. Uh [0:40:41, 0:40:55]: Prof preserve and enhance older existing neighborhoods by promoting uh infill of new development to revitalize established neighborhoods. And the comp plan also specifically notes the lack of townhomes uh in providing um [0:40:56, 0:41:00]: Housing options or the current lack of town homes in the city uh uh [0:41:00, 0:41:20]: To provide housing options. Specifically, it notes that the dominant housing option is likely to remain single family development within the city. However, to attract certain segments of the population, like young adults and millennials, other housing options should be available. Currently, there's a lack of townhomes and smaller multifamily residential housing that's on Patriot. [0:41:20, 0:41:23]: eighteen of the city's current comprehensive plan. [0:41:25, 0:41:45]: It's unlikely that the subject property will be redeveloped with the current low density residential and the current zoning that's on the property. There are uh currently two single-family homes that have been there since the 1940s. Um and it's uh unsuitable for uh proposed development. We believe our uh townhome development. [0:41:45, 0:41:54]: uh is fitting with the with the area uh giving the surrounding uh developments uh and it's fitting within the within the community [0:41:56, 0:42:15]: I'll go through a few other features that we've discussed with um uh both planning staff as well as other stakeholders in the city uh before I rest, but just feel it's important to note uh because these issues have come up before. Um [0:42:16, 0:42:20]: Well first before I get to that, just to note public support. Uh we [0:42:20, 0:42:40]: As I noted, we s originally submitted in October. We sent out three rounds of uh public notification to the surrounding property owners. Uh the first was on January 6th of this year, uh, then again on February 28th, and then on April 10th. We have received no public response uh to our uh [0:42:40, 0:42:55]: uh notifications with one exception and that is the property owner directly to the west of us uh that owns the Pine Hills uh mobile home park and that is the letter and support that you have before you tonight. Uh other than that we have heard no uh [0:42:56, 0:43:00]: uh no comments from the community or no no questions from the community [0:43:02, 0:43:22]: Uh but we have been in uh significant discussions with planning staff as well as other stakeholders with the city to to make this a appropriate development for the city. Uh one concern was affordability. Uh these units will be priced at the high 200s, low three hundreds. Um these are for sale units, and we're not seeking any [0:43:22, 0:43:31]: tra tax credits for uh federal affordable requirements. Uh so we're not meeting HUD or we're not bound by HUD restrictions for this. These are uh [0:43:32, 0:43:48]: for sale uh town home units. Uh but we are pricing these in an affordable range. Uh the medium home price for new sales and resales in Henry County and Stockbridge in the last 12 months are range in the high 300,000. So these are well within the [0:43:48, 0:43:50]: the affordable range for new homes. [0:43:51, 0:44:11]: And what we are proposing is uh it's also particularly within the affordable range of younger homebuyers. Uh town homes typically attract younger homebuyers or empty nesters. Uh those that their kids may have moved out of their house and they're looking to downsize, they don't want to take care of a yard, uh, so they move into town homes. Um [0:44:11, 0:44:31]: Uh, which is what we are proposing. And both of these are encouraged by uh the comp plan to add a variety of housing. Um I'll touch on these other things briefly. Um, because I may touch on these more in the uh the uh rezoning or variance uh presentation. So but parking. Uh [0:44:31, 0:44:51]: One of the issues was the number of guest parking spaces that we have. As you'll hear later on tonight, we are requesting a variance for the front yard setback to reduce it from 50 feet down to 25 feet. One of the consequences of that is there's less parking within the driveway. We still have enough room within the driveway for uh one to two cars for each unit. [0:44:51, 0:45:03]: However, we've redone our site plan from what we initially proposed to provide a significant number of uh off-street parking spaces, guest parking spaces throughout the development, particularly if you look at the site plan um [0:45:05, 0:45:17]: Along the interior blocks here, uh we've removed units. Uh we've reduced the density to add the extra parking to uh um allow more guest parking. [0:45:17, 0:45:37]: Uh in specifically, we'll have a total of 281 garage spaces and 281 driveway spaces uh with 92 surface guest parking spaces for a total of 654 parking spaces throughout the development, which is significant for the size of residential development. Uh the city [0:45:37, 0:45:57]: Stockbridge requires a minimum of 2.25 spaces per three-bedroom unit, which would equate to around 383 spaces. Uh so we're 271 spaces above that requirement, or almost 1.7 times above what we are 170% above what we are required to do. And that is just to facilitate. [0:45:57, 0:46:02]: facilitate uh the parking within the community and to uh help keep [0:46:02, 0:46:06]: prevent people from parking on the street uh and blocking the drive aisles. [0:46:07, 0:46:22]: Uh open space and amenities, I touched on this briefly earlier, but uh just to reiterate, uh we are preserving approximately 7.9 acres of the overall uh 27 acre property, uh or 28.5% of the overall property as open space. Uh [0:46:24, 0:46:44]: The city only requires 15% open space, so we are significantly above that for the open space. Uh a large portion of that is to the north of the property, uh, where we have a stream buffer, but we are also uh preserving green space in the form of uh nature trails. Uh we are having we have a eight-foot concrete sidewalk that goes through the the [0:46:44, 0:46:57]: green space area. Uh as well, we're proposing clubhouse, playground, dog park, walking trail, and uh approximately s 5600 square feet of landscape uh public open space towards the the front of the development. [0:47:01, 0:47:01]: I can. [0:47:02, 0:47:22]: Oh ten minut okay. All right. Well I'll wrap up and just say uh traffic improvements. As staff noted, we have a traffic report that will be brought up in the rezoning case. I'll go into those uh improvements and how our our coordination with the Georgia DOT on its improvements of highway one thirty eight uh during the rezoning case uh to show how we impact traffic on the uh [0:47:22, 0:47:42]: streets. And then utilities and four star's other developments in the area. Four star is a national developer, but they have developed several properties in the Stockbridge area. And with that, I'll I'll rest my presentation. I'll bring up some of these other points in the other two applications. [0:47:42, 0:47:44]: Thank you. [0:47:49, 0:47:49]: Questions? [0:47:52, 0:47:56]: It's core to us. Um I'm sorry, I I can't hear you, Ms. I'm sorry. [0:47:56, 0:48:03]: I keep forgetting to turn it back on. Um, I wanted to ask, did the staff um get a response on what you all approved? [0:48:04, 0:48:10]: Uh the two points that you wanted to bring out to us, did you get a response from them on what you want what the staff wanted? [0:48:10, 0:48:11]: Do you get my question? [0:48:12, 0:48:14]: Do we get a response from the applicant? [0:48:14, 0:48:27]: Right, on the staff recommendation, yes. Um I haven't specifically spoken with them, but it is it is the will of the board to impose those conditions on them. But they're reasonable and it requires that I can't hear you. [0:48:31, 0:48:48]: I'm saying that the the zoning conditions that are in the case, they speak directly to making sure that if the comprehensive plan is approved and the others are not approved, then you know, well let me say it this way. Let me let me just read the conditions so that it's crystal clear. [0:48:57, 0:49:17]: The first condition of the two is the comprehensive plan amendment shall not be approved unless the applicants request request a rezoning via RZ-2022-07 to rezone the property from rural residential to multifamily residential is approved to allow. [0:49:17, 0:49:21]: how the townhomes to be built. And then condition number two. [0:49:23, 0:49:43]: States the comprehensive plan amendment shall not be approved unless the applicant's requested variance to reduce the required minimum front yard setback from fifty feet to twenty-five feet is approved simultaneously with this request. CP dash two zero two two-six. [0:49:43, 0:49:47]: Okay. That answers my question. Thank you. [0:49:49, 0:49:54]: All right, are we gonna open this to public comment? Okay. [0:49:55, 0:49:55]: Oops. [0:49:55, 0:49:56]: Thank you. [0:49:58, 0:50:02]: All right. Does the pu does anyone from the public want to come up and make a comment? [0:50:06, 0:50:16]: You have somebody have a hand up over here. Okay. Do we have someone who wants to speak in opposition of the request? Come on up. And please state your name and address for the record. [0:50:17, 0:50:37]: Good afternoon. My name is Dylan Garnett. I live at 566 Davis Road. It's the property adjacent to the uh proposed uh land development. Uh Madam Chair and Senior Members of the Council, thank you for allowing me to speak. Uh I just wanted to voice my disapproval. [0:50:37, 0:50:39]: Because of the [0:50:41, 0:50:48]: I guess because of how they have it zoned next to my property, it's directly adjacent to my property and the developers haven't [0:50:48, 0:51:08]: spoken to me or asked me or you know, we haven't spoke about how they plan on uh setting boundaries or anything like that. And I know they spoke about having a traffic uh study. Well, I live there and I know the study, you know, I see [0:51:08, 0:51:17]: the traffic that it's already a lot of traffic during the afternoon and stuff. Uh and we have a lot of uh like [0:51:19, 0:51:21]: I don't know how to explain this, but you know, people who [0:51:23, 0:51:24]: Чес вукін [0:51:24, 0:51:29]: you know, on the sidewalk since they developed it. A lot of people walk through my yard. So we have just security concerns. [0:51:29, 0:51:42]: and boundary concerns. And I'll just want to make sure that the development is not infringing on my property because they haven't come to speak to us or say anything to us about how they plan on building. And if their buildings are [0:51:43, 0:51:51]: facing my backyard or I can see in today's backyard. You know, I just want to make sure that we have set boundaries if it is approved. And uh [0:51:52, 0:52:00]: I don't know. They didn't speak to me, so I don't know what their plan is. And that's why me and my family do not approve of the development. [0:52:03, 0:52:07]: Miss Carter, can they answer his concerns? [0:52:07, 0:52:22]: Um for the time being we would just to take pop public comment on those that are in opposition and those that are opposed and then w before the vote then the council can can ask for the applicant to come and speak. Yes ma'am. Okay, thank you. Thank you. [0:52:25, 0:52:27]: Repeat his name and and address. [0:52:31, 0:52:36]: Dylan Garnett and the residence is five six six Davis Road. [0:52:39, 0:52:40]: Thank you, sir. [0:52:46, 0:52:54]: Hello, Madam Chair. My name is Mark McFry. I live at 289 SHIELDs Road, which is on the corner of Davis and Shields. [0:52:55, 0:52:57]: We've lived there for about six years. [0:52:58, 0:53:15]: Anyway, we received these letters and it always said go to the hearings. I didn't know that we were supposed to contact them directly. But uh yeah, our concern is the traffic, the impact of all those people. They're gonna be moving into our neighborhood. [0:53:15, 0:53:19]: It's already traffic and that stop sign that I live on the corner of [0:53:20, 0:53:23]: People run that stop sign left and right. We've had the police. [0:53:24, 0:53:27]: sit there and I've told'em they could sit in my yard. [0:53:27, 0:53:30]: and stop in cars. People get out and haunt. [0:53:31, 0:53:35]: You know, I'm just afraid they're gonna start shooting at each other. But [0:53:35, 0:53:38]: You've got two trailer parts. You've got the uh [0:53:39, 0:53:44]: rentals down through there and then you got the subdivision up north of there. [0:53:45, 0:53:55]: you add that many houses, you're gonna have that many more people, you're gonna have that much more crying, that much more uh people getting upset with each other, stuff like that. [0:53:55, 0:54:06]: Um I'm wondering if they did a impact study. I'm wondering what the storm water that's gonna come off that comes into my yard, which the water off Davis comes in my yard anyway. [0:54:07, 0:54:08]: At my expense. [0:54:09, 0:54:11]: After they put that sidewalk in. [0:54:11, 0:54:13]: That water has eroded the hill. [0:54:14, 0:54:17]: It has eroded my yard and I've rented equipment. [0:54:18, 0:54:29]: gotten rid of dead trees and tried to fix it best I could. But it looks like they're gonna just force people like us out of the neighborhood. [0:54:30, 0:54:34]: with their development because once they're finished and they've gotten paid, they're gone. [0:54:35, 0:54:37]: They don't they don't have to live there. We do. [0:54:38, 0:54:45]: And uh I've lived here in Stockbridge for twenty five years. I've lived in Georgia my whole life. [0:54:46, 0:54:50]: And I think we should have a little, you know, say so. [0:54:50, 0:54:52]: in what goes on in in our neighborhood. [0:54:54, 0:54:57]: But you know, I know this is just a hearing, but uh [0:54:58, 0:55:02]: And I don't know what y'all gonna do, but I I hope y'all take us into consideration. [0:55:11, 0:55:16]: Are there any other comments? Any comments um [0:55:16, 0:55:18]: Opposed or for the project? [0:55:24, 0:55:24]: Okay. [0:55:32, 0:55:33]: I believe the [0:55:37, 0:55:41]: the applicant will be coming up to address what the opposition [0:55:50, 0:56:10]: Z thank you. As as I noted, we're a little bit surprised we have opposition tonight. We haven't heard from anybody, but we one of the things that we try to do with our developments and our rezoning in particular is to meet with the community. You know, all we can do is send out notifications to request to meet. Um you know, i if they leave their [0:56:10, 0:56:11]: Um [0:56:11, 0:56:31]: contact information here tonight, we will gladly set up meetings with them after tonight uh to discuss their concerns. But I think a lot of these are easily uh addressed. Uh particularly uh the next door neighbor at five sixty six Davis Road. Um we do have buffers along our property, uh landscape buffers against his [0:56:31, 0:56:39]: uh property and there's no there's only I think two units that are even close or lots that are close to his property. [0:56:40, 0:56:57]: If you can hear me, uh here is five sixty six Davis. Uh these row or these units would back up with him, but you'd still have uh quite a significant amount of buffer between the back of these units at his backyard. Uh we can most can you guys hear them? [0:56:59, 0:57:02]: Oh okay, good. I'm trying to speak loud, so [0:57:05, 0:57:23]: The majority of this area is taken up by uh what we're proposing as emergency access. This would be uh a a entrance drive, but it it would be closed off only in times for uh firetruck had to get in there. For some reason the main entrance is closed. Uh this would be allowable for firetruck access, but that would be used. [0:57:24, 0:57:34]: rarely during the entire length uh lifetime of the development. Uh so this would essentially be a green space area next to the five sixty six uh Davis Road property. [0:57:35, 0:57:36]: Um [0:57:38, 0:57:46]: The other gentleman that lives at the corner of Shields and Davis, um, a lot of the issues that he brought up are currently existing with the city. We're not [0:57:47, 0:57:55]: uh exacerbating those issues. He brought up a number of people running the stop sign, traffic uh on the roads, crime. Uh those are [0:57:57, 0:58:01]: Issues that the city is dealing with currently. Uh we are not going to [0:58:02, 0:58:19]: Add to that, uh, we have done a traffic study that has shown that the uh number of vehicular trips from the proposed development will not negatively impact the uh local roadways uh or uh diminish the level of service of the adjacent intersections. Um [0:58:20, 0:58:40]: We are also proposing improvements to Davis Road in front of our property. I mentioned one, the ten foot uh uh section of sidewalk on along the northern section of rideway. But we are also proposing a dedicated left turn lane on to on Davis Road as well as a D cell lane into our property uh to facilitate traffic movements in and out so it does not impact uh [0:58:40, 0:58:46]: uh uh vehicular trips along Davis Road uh for people turning in or into our development. [0:58:47, 0:59:07]: Uh stormwater. Our stormwater the site generally drains to the north, which is the left side of the plan there. And you can see the light blue area in the rear is our stormwater detention pond, which will capture and detain stormwater to mitigate the runoff and water quality before it is released to the stream to the north. And the purpose of that is to [0:59:06, 0:59:18]: control uh flooding and storm flows uh so that we are not negatively impacting uh downstream properties. And that's a requirement a state requirement as well as city requirement uh that we have to meet those standards. [0:59:19, 0:59:39]: The erosion that uh the gentleman mentioned along Davis Road, again, that's an existing issue we have nothing to do with. That's something that he would need to address with either the city or Henry County, um, whoever addressed or developed the sidewalk. But our stormwater generally drains away from those properties to the north, to the left side of the plan, as you see. [0:59:39, 0:59:53]: Um but again I would offer my invitation to meet uh with the with the uh residents. Uh if you leave your contact information or we can talk after the meeting and I can get your contact information, we'd be glad to reach out with you and and meet with you individually. [0:59:54, 0:59:57]: Um with that I think I have answered the question, so [1:00:00, 1:00:20]: All right, and I want to apologize to the uh the people that came up to say something I was rushing along, but we definitely wanted to hear the comments that you had. And I encourage you to leave your contact information with them so that they can get with you for sure. I use that area when I drive to work, so um I am concerned about the the traffic as well. Um so I'll be eager to to um listen to that. [1:00:20, 1:00:22]: The information about the study. [1:00:22, 1:00:23]: Any other? [1:00:23, 1:00:26]: Questions from the panel or comments? [1:00:26, 1:00:27]: It's just [1:00:31, 1:00:37]: I guess I'll go. Who is the owner of the Pine Hills estates? Currently we just received this letter from [1:00:37, 1:00:38]: It was uh [1:00:40, 1:00:40]: Is he present? [1:00:41, 1:00:44]: It's a it's a corporate owner. Um [1:00:47, 1:01:03]: Affordable Communities Group. Uh Chris Berry is the CEO. Okay, so so this person's not here then. That's correct. Okay. He's not here. Because I had a couple of questions for him. Um can we have an open conversation about this? Are we ready for that? [1:01:05, 1:01:25]: My first concern, of course, with any residential development is traffic. Um having lived in Stockbridge since 1985, I know what Davis Road is like traffic-wise, just coming from the residential area that approach it in and out now. And if you looked at the traffic study, it was gonna add some. [1:01:25, 1:01:33]: 600 new round trips to Davis Road. And if y'all know where Davis Road exits next to Walmart. [1:01:33, 1:01:49]: It's already a backup. Way far back. And if I could just imagine adding six hundred more round trips up and down Davis Road to that existing traffic, what a nightmare that's going to be. And also [1:01:50, 1:02:10]: The proximity of where Davis Road exits next to Walmart, they're at 42 Highway, is too close to an existing traffic stop to put in another traffic control device. So if they have to, if if it's decided to reroute Davis Road away from that area further down, [1:02:10, 1:02:18]: Down to where they can put in a traffic light, is the property owner willing to give up some of his property to reroute Davis Road? [1:02:19, 1:02:26]: to make it more accessible, to you know, make it more conducive to traffic flow and state requirements. [1:02:28, 1:02:48]: I will say this. Uh first off, we're a little less than a mile east of uh uh the intersection of Davis Road and one hundred thirty eight. Uh so we we don't control that that property or that area. Um it so we could not dedicate right away for that development. But I will say that our traffic engineer has the [1:02:48, 1:03:08]: The right-of-way improvement plans for the expansion of Highway 138 and Highway 42. That will come on or begin construction in 2024. Our development will begin, or we are looking at beginning the vertical construction around 2024. [1:03:08, 1:03:28]: With the last homes being built around 2027, which would allow time for uh the improvements to highway 138 and one and 42 to come online before our uh development is built out. So we're anticipating the improvement to particularly that intersection where Davis Road and 138 [1:03:28, 1:03:43]: uh currently is. Uh we're expecting an improvement to that. And our traffic engineer has taken those improvements into account and determined that there would be uh no impact from our proposed development on those on that uh intersection. [1:03:49, 1:03:59]: In I have a copy of the traffic study. It should be in your packet as well as part of our application. I know it is quite lengthy and a little bit hard to go through, but uh uh it it details that as well. [1:04:07, 1:04:21]: Okay. It it is adding a lot of new vehicles to that already clogged up corridor there. And I ha I'm afraid that we're gonna back up so bad that people are going to use the Walmart parking lot and the residents to the [1:04:22, 1:04:36]: east of there as a way to egress the neighborhood just because of the backup it's going to create. And that that would create another problem all by itself without any kind of improvement to where Davis Road now exits onto forty two. [1:04:37, 1:04:57]: It that and that's uh what they refer to in the traffic study is the level of service of the intersection. When a intersection begins to back up and uh cannot empty the cues before the next red light occurs or next green light occurs, that is a d decrease in the level of service. Our traffic uh engineer has taken that into account. They did [1:04:57, 1:05:07]: uh traffic counts at Davis Road. And with the improvements that are coming online from the Georgia DOP Georgia DOT widening, uh [1:05:08, 1:05:25]: it is anticipated that there will be no decrease in the level of service so even with the added cars from our development. So with those improvements um in the number of cars coming out of our development, we are not expecting the traffic queues to back up any further than uh uh what they are today. [1:05:28, 1:05:31]: Okay, answered my questions. Okay. Thank you. [1:05:35, 1:05:38]: Uh Madam President, I have a question. Yes, Ms. Tibet. [1:05:38, 1:05:58]: Uh I noticed you mentioned DOT. Here's the thing over at Davis Road. It it's a bottleneck. And that whole system as far as the street design and everything needs to be changed. Uh besides the DOT, wouldn't the city be involved in on that also, on that traffic study for that, if they already know that it's [1:05:58, 1:06:00]: It's a problem at Davis Road in one hundred thirty eight? [1:06:01, 1:06:18]: As as far as the traffic study, we prepared that on our own. Uh we have provided a copy to the city. Uh as far as the Georgia DOT improvement plans, uh you would have to I would have to direct that to the city staff is as far if I don't know if City Stockbridge transportation is involved with that widening. [1:06:19, 1:06:39]: I I think that's the c uh the citizens need to take a look at that overall, even with their uh city councilperson over that area and bring that to their attention. Uh to handle that. I I think they know that that's area is backed up already and they have some some problems over there. So I would uh [1:06:39, 1:06:49]: uh request the homeowners to get with their city council person to see what they can do along with the DOT to handle that problem. [1:06:57, 1:07:01]: Mm, Miss Carter, did you have any information about DOT by any chance? [1:07:04, 1:07:05]: Uh we have not. [1:07:06, 1:07:26]: We have not received any comments from the count. Um but what we will do is um reach out to our public works department on any comments they may have. But the traffic study does that's pro has been provided by the applicant. I think we'll get into a little bit more in the next item. Um but [1:07:26, 1:07:39]: um they're required they they provided that to us so it is of course at the discretion at of this you know body to recommend approval or denial um based on the overall uh project itself [1:07:43, 1:07:55]: What sorry about that, I have another question. Yes. And if you can speak up, my tinnitus is kind of on low overload today, so all I hear is a buzz and this separator here up front kinda hurts. Um [1:07:56, 1:08:07]: Now what was my question going to um maybe you stated it, I did not hear it. What are the anticipated? I know it's down the road, but the anticipated value of these homes once they're built. [1:08:07, 1:08:27]: The initial sales price, we're pricing these at uh it it'll be the high two hundreds uh to low three hundreds. And that's we're trying to hit a a nice medium between uh quality development and affordability. You know, we're trying to provide the amenities that we have here as well as uh landscaping and uh uh uh facade material. [1:08:27, 1:08:47]: Materials, but still keep it affordable so that we attract the uh younger residents or those empty nesters. Are there I don't see any on here, but are there any plans for adding amenities to it? Because I know for a fact that people paying that kind of money for a residential are gonna want to spend a lot of time. [1:08:47, 1:09:07]: I'm in their neighborhood and and I see there's not a whole lot of amenities being developed. There's a dog park and some walking sidewalks, but as far as a pool and a tennis court and something to keep the residents there that don't have to travel outside their neighborhood necessarily for basic entertainment. Anything like that be planned? [1:09:07, 1:09:15]: Not at this time. And we have we had that discussion when we initially uh proposed this development as far as the amenities that we were uh [1:09:16, 1:09:25]: Uh proposing. Uh we initially we we had the dog park and playground and the nature trails, uh but we've added a clubhouse. Can you speak just a little louder? [1:09:26, 1:09:32]: Sorry. Uh there we go. Can you all hear me now better? Sorry about that. I'll I'll lean into the microphone a little bit. [1:09:32, 1:09:52]: I didn't realize I was being that quiet. But um uh some of the amenities that we've added since our initial proposal, we have added the clubhouse, and that came uh directly from a comment from the city. Uh we were initially proposing a pavilion. We looked at a pool, uh, but the cost versus benefit analysis. [1:09:52, 1:10:12]: Analysis of that, we haven't a lot of our newer communities don't have pools. Um tennis courts rarely get used. You you don't you don't see tennis courts too much uh anymore. A lot in senior communities you do see pickleball uh coming up now. But we are not proposing that here. We are proposing the nature trail, uh the dog park and the playground. [1:10:12, 1:10:17]: uh which are are used uh typically more often by residents. [1:10:25, 1:10:45]: Okay. It i if I could add one clarification to your earlier question. Sorry. On the Georgia DOT uh project, I just wanted to let you know that that is a project that the Georgia DOT has and in its pipeline. Uh so it is a valid project, it's it is moving forward. Uh it's not something that is uh [1:10:45, 1:10:45]: Yeah. [1:10:46, 1:10:53]: Yeah, out there that that's uh maybe. Yeah, exactly. So that widening is is coming. [1:10:53, 1:11:09]: Is there a tentative date for that wipe that we have our our traffic engineer has been told construction would start in twenty twenty four, uh the summer of twenty twenty four. Uh the length of time for that construction I'm not certain, but [1:11:10, 1:11:12]: We uh are uh [1:11:13, 1:11:20]: I believe it will be done uh before our final build out in twenty twenty seven, is our understanding from our traffic engineer. [1:11:24, 1:11:26]: All right, thank you. Mm-hmm. [1:11:30, 1:11:32]: Any other questions or comments? [1:11:34, 1:11:50]: Okay. I just wanted to point out to the community um we did have some um comments in favor of this um from some people that own property adjacent to it. So we did have some some comments in favor. It was just put in writing. So I wanted to let the community know that. [1:11:52, 1:11:54]: All right, thank you. [1:11:56, 1:11:57]: Okay, so [1:12:00, 1:12:06]: May I have a motion to adopt the comprehensive plan amendment to K C P [1:12:07, 1:12:09]: Twenty twenty two zero six. [1:12:12, 1:12:22]: And this is to assign the future land use designation of property located at fifty six Davis Road, parcel S zero five zero one zero zero two thousand. [1:12:22, 1:12:27]: to high residential to allow for the construction of a town home development. [1:12:33, 1:12:46]: Madam President, can you get close to the mic because I can even barely hear you on this end, if you don't mind. Absolutely. May I have a motion to adopt the comprehensive plan amendment to KCP 202206? [1:12:46, 1:12:51]: And this is uh in consideration of a comprehensive plan amendment request to assign the future land use. [1:12:52, 1:12:57]: Designation of property located at five seven six Davis Road to high density residential. [1:12:57, 1:13:00]: to allow for the construction of a town home development. [1:13:09, 1:13:11]: Madam Chair. [1:13:11, 1:13:17]: I move approval of the comprehensive plan amendment case as recommended by staff. [1:13:21, 1:13:26]: I'm sorry, just for clarification, do we need to add in the we don't need to add in the conditions? [1:13:26, 1:13:37]: Yes. So if you do want to go with staff's two conditions, then the um the motion would need to be amended to include those with the correction that was I stated earlier. [1:13:38, 1:13:55]: Okay. So let me rephrase it. Um can I though Mr. Dumas has the ability to um amend his motion? I will amend the motion to approve the comprehensive plan amendment as recommended by staff with the conditions that they articulated. [1:13:55, 1:13:56]: Okay, do I have a second? [1:13:57, 1:13:58]: I second it, Harold. [1:13:59, 1:13:59]: Okay. [1:14:00, 1:14:05]: All in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Aye. [1:14:06, 1:14:07]: Okay. [1:14:07, 1:14:10]: So we have three in favor, one opposed. [1:14:11, 1:14:18]: Okay, the eyes have it. So the motion has been approved um for the comprehensive plan amendment c um request. [1:14:19, 1:14:21]: To move it to high density residential. [1:14:24, 1:14:24]: Okay. [1:14:25, 1:14:31]: Okay, we're gonna move on to the rezoning case number R Z twenty twenty two dash zero seven. [1:14:33, 1:14:40]: Consideration of a rezoning request to assign the zoning district of MFR multiple family residential property. [1:14:40, 1:14:48]: Located at five seven six Davis Road, parcel number S zero five dash zero one hundred two thousand. [1:14:48, 1:14:51]: To allow for the construction of a town home development. [1:14:51, 1:14:53]: Applicant Forester Real Estate Group USA. [1:14:54, 1:14:56]: Incorporated agent Alex Brock. [1:14:56, 1:14:57]: Of Smith. [1:14:57, 1:15:01]: Gambrel and Russell LLP, the property is located in landlot. [1:15:01, 1:15:03]: ninety one of District twelve and it contains [1:15:04, 1:15:07]: twenty seven point six three five plus or minus acres. [1:15:22, 1:15:23]: Good evening, everyone. [1:15:25, 1:15:32]: Uh this was presentation for R Z 202207, rezoning for proposed Davis Road Townhomes. [1:15:38, 1:15:54]: We've covered a lot of this material already. So I'm gonna move quickly through some of these slides. Um as has been mentioned, there's actually three applications. We just went through comprehensive plan. This is the rezoning, and then I'll also be presenting a variance application after this. [1:15:55, 1:16:15]: This is a map showing surrounding zoning. Property is here, Davis Road, and you have other other uses nearby. We have a gold suburban residential, this color here, and the orange, mobile home parks. [1:16:15, 1:16:16]: Um those are the main things. [1:16:18, 1:16:26]: Here's Ariel Photo. This is Davis Road here. And uh North Henry Boulevard and Walm Walmart in this area. [1:16:29, 1:16:33]: And some case facts here. Uh we've gone through a lot of these. [1:16:37, 1:16:41]: This is a brief uh boundary survey just showing the general shape of the property. [1:16:44, 1:17:04]: Um I have the site plan. We have a black and white version as well as a colored version. And basically Davis Road is here on the right side. This is turn sideways, so north is actually here to the left. So there'll be prop main project entrance off Davis Road plus a secondary emergency only access in [1:17:04, 1:17:24]: In this here area for um fire trucks, emergency vehicles. Uh there'd be a loop street internally, and these are all the town home units here. There'd be a mail kiosk here near the front with some parking and a minute area at the rear. The property slopes down quite a bit from [1:17:24, 1:17:35]: Davis Road about seventy feet uh drop and you have a stream area and um some wetlands so that this area is not usable as far as building. [1:17:36, 1:17:48]: There would be a club a small clubhouse and dog park, a playground and also a walking trail. You can see all this better on this colored uh site plan. [1:17:52, 1:18:12]: This is just a section that was included on the site plan. There's a lot of statistics here about the proposed density and uh part number of parking spaces, um, uh buffers, minimum open space, and they meet those requirements. Um there was a traffic impact study. [1:18:12, 1:18:32]: Done as I've said. The basis of the study was a project year build out of 2027, and projections were made looking at existing conditions and then projecting in 2027 with both with and without the project. [1:18:32, 1:18:52]: Looked at the intersection of the driveway that's proposed with Davis Road, as well as the other intersection of Davis Road with North Henry Boulevard. It also included a population growth factor considering for uh Henry County. [1:18:52, 1:19:12]: Traffic count dates were made last September twenty-ninth and also March second with Henry County Public Schools were in session on those dates. A site visit was also made on March seventh to zer observe cry traffic conditions. Uh Georgia DOT has several has three, in fact, uh [1:19:12, 1:19:32]: uh traffic count stations set up in that area. Uh and those were uh considered with different uh growth factors. Uh so uh specifically the annual growth factor Henry County's annual population rate of 1.67 in 2020-20 and [1:19:32, 1:19:52]: And then estimated population projection 1.55 by year 2027 and 2% to account for background traffic growth. Project would generate 1,245 daily trips per day at full project back build out. [1:19:52, 1:20:00]: Roughly 70% of trips would come from the west of Davis Road and 30% from the east. [1:20:00, 1:20:17]: Here's a breakdown of the peak hour trips and the AM and PKM PM. Um current traffic impacts are are low and this this is all from the the cus the engineer who prepared the study. And [1:20:18, 1:20:23]: It said that the current capacity lane configura configuration would be sufficient to accommodate [1:20:24, 1:20:44]: traffic from this proposed project. Um there is some um low level of service at the nearby intersections, but again with DOT's improvement. And I'll just mention it said in the study that uh Davis Road um no they would not add another traffic light but that Davis Road [1:20:44, 1:21:04]: uh left turns out of Davis Road would be prohibited and um would require a U-turn. That is what it the proposed DOT project says. So um traffic is expected to be acceptable by twenty twenty seven both [1:21:04, 1:21:06]: with and without the project. [1:21:07, 1:21:18]: I'll move on. There's here's the renderings of what the finished townhomes would look like. You'd have the smaller townhomes with one car garages and the larger townhomes with two car garages. [1:21:20, 1:21:40]: We had different criteria to analyze and considering the rezoning. We went through the comprehensive plan and um we feel that the MF proposed MFR district would be acceptable. It would um uh located on uh major collector street uh have positive effects on the area. [1:21:40, 1:22:00]: By bringing alternative types of housing, and this is one of the goals of comprehensive plan. The site has, I mentioned before, the physical constraints. For this reason, the applicant has applied for variants, which I'll discuss next in my next presentation. [1:22:00, 1:22:00]: Mm-hmm. [1:22:01, 1:22:21]: Impacts on water sewer, a letter was received from Public Works stating a water and sewer is available. Of course, the developer would have to cover the cost of connections. We've gone through traffic impacts here. Um and these are just some more details of that I've already discussed. [1:22:21, 1:22:35]: So we we feel that the um property um although it could have further uh single family development, considering the area, we don't feel that is likely to happen. Um [1:22:36, 1:22:40]: There haven't been any demands for such development in recent years. [1:22:40, 1:22:43]: So we conclude the proposed development would be acceptable. [1:22:43, 1:23:03]: And therefore, we recommend approval with conditions and those same conditions. Number one, that the comprehensive plan amendment is is approved, as well as the variance, and then also condition on the site plan. And I'll just read for the record uh the site plan is this the proposed town. [1:23:03, 1:23:09]: home development shall be constructed according to the design which is shown on the applicant's submitted black and white. [1:23:09, 1:23:29]: Conceptual site plan entitled Davis Road Town Homes, Henry County, Georgia rezoning plan, which was prepared by Atwell Group of Marietta, Georgia on March fifteenth, twenty twenty three, as well as its companion undated colored conceptual plan, both of which were received by the city on March sixteenth. [1:23:29, 1:23:33]: Are there any questions? [1:24:09, 1:24:15]: Okay. Um didn't I didn't have any we didn't have any questions. Um, does he need to do a presentation? [1:24:16, 1:24:25]: So so at this time, yes, you can have the um if there are no questions then the applicant can come up and speak for a total of ten minutes. Okay. And um we open up for public hearing from there. [1:24:29, 1:24:30]: Thank you, Miss Logan. [1:24:39, 1:24:46]: Good evening again, Madam Chair and members of the Planning Commission. I am still Alex Brock with Smith Cambrell Russell. Uh off [1:24:47, 1:24:57]: I'll speak in the microphone so everybody can hear y'all lean in a little bit. Uh but again, I'm uh Alex Brock, Smith Cambrell Russell, office address at 1105 West Peace Street Street, Atlanta, Georgia. Um here on behalf of the applicant. [1:24:58, 1:25:17]: You know, I'll keep my this presentation fairly short because I think we had uh I gave a fairly lengthy discussion of the development itself in the previous um application, uh as well as our our follow-up questions with uh uh the commission. So I'll limit this to mostly just the uh rezoning specific items. [1:25:18, 1:25:21]: Um it [1:25:22, 1:25:42]: This property is one of the large number of properties that were just uh recommended to be rezoned for the annexation uh uh into the city of Stockbridge. It was previously zoned residential agricultural under uh unincorporated Henry County before its annexation uh earlier this year. Uh now the city [1:25:42, 1:25:51]: city with the adoption of its zoning plan, uh or zoning map will be zoned rural residential and we're asking to rezone that to a multifamily residential. [1:25:53, 1:26:13]: Uh the zoning is compatible with the surrounding properties. To the west, we have the uh Pine Hills Mobile Home Park, which is zoned Mobile Home Residential, MHR. Uh to the east, we have uh along Century Oaks Drive uh duplex lots that are zoned city center residential or will be zoned city center center residential once the uh [1:26:13, 1:26:25]: City adopts its zoning map. To the north, we have properties within unincorporated Henry County that are zoned residential agricultural along Valley Hill Road. [1:26:25, 1:26:45]: To the south of us, across Davis Road, uh is another mobile home development uh zoned um uh MHR uh as well. Uh in addition, there is another uh uh townhome development down uh Davis Road to the east that I mentioned in my earlier presentation, the Big Oak Villas, uh which are is [1:26:45, 1:27:05]: Is an attached home, uh townhome development uh at a density of nine units per acre. And if you recall, we are asking for a density of 6.15. Uh the proposed development is also located uh less than one mile east of the commercial node at North Henry Boulevard and Highway 138, uh, where you have the uh Walmart shopping center. [1:27:05, 1:27:09]: Center uh anchored commercial development. [1:27:11, 1:27:31]: The zoning that we're requesting is commensurate with other developments and zonings in the area today. Um and the MFR zoning will allow us to develop townhomes um and add a mix of housing options into the area uh to attract uh younger professionals uh that are noted in as goals among [1:27:30, 1:27:36]: The uh City of Stockbridge uh comprehensive plan uh that I went through in detail in my earlier presentation. [1:27:40, 1:28:00]: To go through, I won't reiterate a lot of the other issues that we've discussed with uh city officials and staff as far as uh affordability parking uh traffic improvements. I think we've covered if if uh commission has more questions on that, I'll be uh more than happy to answer those questions during the question and answer period. Um but a couple of things that I've [1:28:00, 1:28:20]: I will note as far as utilities, uh staff did note that y water and utilities available uh to the site. We are proposing an extension of sanitary sewer from Shields Road up to our property. Uh the developer will be installing that itself. Currently the property is on sewered, uh, but we will be uh paying for that sewer extension up to our property. [1:28:21, 1:28:36]: Um also noted the improv in our my earlier presentation, the improvements to Davis Road will be adding a turn lane as well as a D sell lane in front of our uh property to facilitate uh through traffic movements uh onto Davis Road, uh as well as traffic movements into our property. [1:28:40, 1:29:00]: Uh also just to note uh one thing that I didn't get to in my earlier presentation is Fourstar is a nationwide developer of residential lots. Uh they do a number of developments throughout the country, but particularly in the southeast and particularly within Georgia. Uh they are headquartered here in Georgia. Uh one development that is nearby is the Hampton Brazil. [1:29:00, 1:29:20]: Reserve at uh 103 Hampton Circle in Mid McDonough. Uh those units are selling in the high 200s. Uh that site is uh at a density or is eight point seven two acres uh with seventy-one units at a density of seven point nine six. So it's uh it's a higher density than what we're proposing here. [1:29:20, 1:29:34]: But it is a comparable development that Forest R has recently done. With that, I'll end my presentation and open it up for or reserve any remaining time for rebuttal or questions. Thank you. [1:29:40, 1:29:44]: Do we have any comments from the thank you. Do we have any comments from the public? Um [1:29:46, 1:29:46]: Opposition [1:29:47, 1:29:48]: For this project. [1:29:49, 1:29:49]: Yes, sir. [1:29:59, 1:30:04]: Hello, Mark McFry, two eighty nine Shields Road, Stockbridge, Georgia. [1:30:05, 1:30:15]: He was mentioning the uh sewer. Um I saw the stakes, one at one corner of my property and one where the manhole is where my sewer goes into. [1:30:15, 1:30:17]: And I'm just concerned with how they're gonna [1:30:18, 1:30:23]: get to that sewer, if they're gonna be coming up Davis and then turning down [1:30:24, 1:30:40]: I mean I haven't seen the drawing so I don't know how they're gonna do it. But they just put in that sidewalk and if that's where they're gonna be coming up through there, I I don't know if they're gonna be in the road, they're gonna be in the the small strip of of uh grass that's between the road and that. [1:30:40, 1:30:41]: But um [1:30:42, 1:31:02]: All that construction is going to impact all of our lives. I mean, you know, they're going to have construction entrances with trucks entering and exiting, you know, and it's going to make our lives pretty miserable for, you know, however long their their projects going on. And uh I know after seeing these projects what it does to the road. [1:31:01, 1:31:20]: what it does to the community around there because you know it's gonna rain, it's gonna get muddy, it's gonna dry up, it's gonna get dusty, you know, all that's gonna impact the people that live around it. So, you know, those are the concerns that I have for me and my neighbors. You know, like I said, um [1:31:21, 1:31:30]: I understand they wanna, you know, develop this property, make money, uh and that's that's the name of the game, uh, but it's impacting our lives. [1:31:31, 1:31:33]: That's that's all I got. [1:31:38, 1:31:41]: Any other comments from anyone from the public? [1:31:44, 1:31:44]: Yes, sir. [1:31:52, 1:31:58]: Uh Dylan Garnett, five six six Davis Road is the property. Uh [1:31:59, 1:32:00]: Can I take a look at it? [1:32:06, 1:32:21]: My question would be about the the buffer zone. You said you guys are gonna put up a natural barrier, uh like foliage and stuff like that. So I just wanted to know how high it would be and if and another question is uh what I'm looking at this [1:32:24, 1:32:40]: It seems like it's directly on my property line. And I know you guys came up and got a surveyor. So I just wanted to make sure that they not are they not infringing on my property when they build. And uh that's probably my only concern. And then I know you guys did a traffic study on [1:32:40, 1:32:52]: cars, but I don't think they did any studies on the foot traffic because the increased residency, I'm sure it's gonna be more foot traffic on Davis Road and it's already a lot of [1:32:52, 1:33:03]: foot traffic there because of the Walmart and stuff like that. So that would be another concern of mine's like uh are they going to are they planning on building a sidewalk in front of my home or? [1:33:04, 1:33:23]: Uh those those are just my concerns about uh my security on my side of my home and how far their barriers will be in you know proportion to my home. So those are just my only concerns so far. Thank you. [1:33:28, 1:33:29]: Okay, any other comments? [1:33:32, 1:33:34]: Okay. All right. You want to respond to it? [1:33:42, 1:34:02]: Okay, I'll try to lean into the microphone a little bit more so everybody can hear me. Um to answer the first gentleman's questions about uh you know the impacts for construction and how we are uh extending our sewer from Shields Road up to our property, that design is not finalized. We know we have to extend the sewer, but the as far as the route uh [1:34:02, 1:34:22]: that is taken. We have not done that. Uh Jack Burke with Four Star handed out our contact information to the residents. Uh we would be more than happy to continue that conversation uh with the adjacent residents to make sure that you know any impacts that we have from our construction are minimized or that we take care of their concerns as we [1:34:22, 1:34:42]: Move forward with this project. And that includes the uh alignment of the Sanitary Sewer uh extension from Shields Road. Uh so we would be happy to look at that and and coordinate with the with the community. Uh the second point he made were the impacts from construction itself as far as uh mud uh in dust and [1:34:42, 1:35:02]: And whatnot from the construction itself. We are required by state law as well as federal requirements for to provide sufficient erosion control uh during construction. Those plans will be uh reviewed and approved by the uh city of Stockbridge before we're even allowed to go out there to do any. [1:35:02, 1:35:04]: Yeah. [1:35:04, 1:35:24]: And w that is required to keep mud from exiting the site, uh, as well as to uh prevent mud from being tracked within the right-of-way or or uh uh mud from leaving the property through uh you know the use of uh certain best management practices like silk fencing or uh sediment basins during construction. Uh so that that [1:35:24, 1:35:44]: That is a typical consideration that we do with all projects. Uh, that er every contractor that is doing more than uh a certain amount of land disturbance has to comply with uh due to state law, as well as Sydney ordinances. Uh so those considerations will be taken into account during construction. The second gentleman uh [1:35:44, 1:36:04]: Uh the adjacent neighbor at uh 566 Davis. Uh he asked about the buffer as far as how high. Uh if you don't mind, I'll address this to the council, but you can hear the answer. We don't have the landscape plan uh designed yet. This is the very preliminary stages. We need to make it through zoning to make sure that we are allowed to develop. [1:36:04, 1:36:19]: develop the project or to build townhomes and it's zone properly before we move forward with the uh detailed landscaping design. Uh but we would be more than happy to cla uh to coordinate with the neighbor uh on the landscape to make sure that uh [1:36:19, 1:36:23]: Any visual impacts are buffered by proposed landscaping and plannings. [1:36:24, 1:36:39]: uh along that uh along that property line. And he also mentioned about encroaching into his property. We cannot encroach into somebody else's property. Uh we don't have the authority without an easement or some other uh agreement to encroach on somebody else's property that we do not own. So [1:36:40, 1:36:42]: Um [1:36:42, 1:37:02]: It's sidewalk in front of his home. That goes uh it's similar to my last answer. Uh we do not control the right of way in front of his property, so we cannot install sidewalk in front of his. We are proposing sidewalk along our frontage, and that uh came from a request from uh our conversations with the city uh that they would like to see a ten-foot sidewalk along the northern right of way of Davis Road. [1:37:02, 1:37:07]: Road. So uh that would end at our property line along Davis Road. [1:37:10, 1:37:16]: I think I think I answered everything, but if there's anything else, you know we're more than happy to discuss after the meeting as well. [1:37:20, 1:37:24]: I don't know. Brecka, Miss uh Carter, can he come back? Is that it? [1:37:25, 1:37:26]: Okay. [1:37:27, 1:37:28]: Um the [1:37:30, 1:37:38]: I don't know if the if the um resident back here would like to say something else if you w would allow him to speak. Okay. You wanted to say something else? Okay. [1:37:45, 1:37:55]: I wanted to find out if you guys are able to have a like a community forum so more of our concern [1:37:56, 1:38:15]: uh people in the area can have a chance to speak to them'cause I know they say they want to speak to us individually and privately, but we want to make a decision as a community in the area. So we wanted to know if there's a possibility to have a separate meeting to where they can explain the proposal to us as a community. [1:38:20, 1:38:40]: That decision will be at the discretion of this council. And if that is the will of the Planning Commission, then you can you have the option to table the item and have the applicant um set up meetings with community. Um but we just need to be maybe specific about the number of meetings and uh before we they come back to the planning commission. [1:38:39, 1:38:43]: I know they said they had um requested [1:38:43, 1:38:47]: I guess feedback January si sixth, February twenty eighth, and April tenth. [1:38:47, 1:38:53]: Um and the gentleman had brought the letter. I is it okay if I look at the letter? If we look at the letter, can we do that? Sure. [1:38:54, 1:38:56]: Mm. [1:38:56, 1:38:58]: Or may we see the letter that they sent you? [1:38:58, 1:38:59]: Right. [1:39:10, 1:39:11]: Um I thought. [1:39:12, 1:39:16]: the date of January 6, they sent us two identical letters. [1:39:20, 1:39:22]: Yeah, two other two other agents. Yeah. [1:39:23, 1:39:26]: it tells us to [1:39:28, 1:39:30]: Very often, says she. [1:39:31, 1:39:37]: Ma'am, if you would like to speak, um please um note your name and address for the record, please. [1:39:46, 1:40:00]: My name is uh Wendy Collins and I too live at two eight nine Shields Road. Um two of the letters were absolutely identical dated January sixth, and the third one is I think April or March. [1:40:01, 1:40:20]: But a majority at it tells you to contact you guys and at the very bottom is a little thing that says contact them. So we came up to one of the meetings and it was canceled. That was here. And so now we're attending this one. But we would like a chance to get more of our neighbors together. [1:40:34, 1:40:54]: Ms. Carter, I don't I don't know if you know, but was one of the meetings canceled? Yes, it was. Um because this property um it was mentioned before that it went through the annexation, it was originally gonna be proposed for an annexation, but due to the referendum getting passed in November, it did not have to go through that process. [1:40:54, 1:41:08]: So what staff had to do was go back and re-advertise for the correct legal um advertisement in order to bring it to you guys formally tonight. So that was not the fault of the applicant. [1:41:09, 1:41:09]: Okay. [1:41:11, 1:41:12]: You wanted to say something? [1:41:16, 1:41:17]: If I could mention um [1:41:19, 1:41:37]: If the Planning Commission so decides to move forward tonight uh with approval, we still have to go to city council on May eighth. Um we would welcome the opportunity to set up meetings with the community uh within that time. And if the community or city council is not uh I guess [1:41:38, 1:41:45]: Does not feel that we've adequately adequately met with the community. They can table it at that time, but I would urge the uh planning commission to move forward tonight. [1:41:50, 1:41:52]: You guys you guys have any questions or thank you. [1:41:54, 1:41:55]: What do you think? [1:41:56, 1:42:02]: You talking to me? Just you guys think they need to ask them for questions. [1:42:06, 1:42:26]: You want some feedback whether we should have them have a meeting? M Certainly. Because if the homeowners don't have any input, we're just making rules and regulations without anybody uh without representing the homeowners. I think it's unfair for us to go through everything and not [1:42:26, 1:42:36]: not let them have their say if they feel that enough of the community did not have an involvement in this process or decision making. [1:42:42, 1:42:44]: Any other comments on or thoughts on that? [1:42:45, 1:42:52]: Yeah, this was published January sixth, so it it seems like they've had plenty of time to [1:42:53, 1:42:55]: have a c comment one way or the other. [1:42:59, 1:43:19]: The the other side of this is why such a big gap and uh why didn't they have a town hall meeting for the uh community in the in that area? That's that's the question I would be asking. Now, you may have sent out these letters, but they really don't describe everything in detail enough to say [1:43:18, 1:43:37]: uh as a c person in the community that I need to go out and talk to the developer for this project. That's what a what the issue is right now. There's there there's just not enough feedback to say that the public was informed, from what I'm reading just by this paperwork. [1:43:39, 1:43:45]: They had some additional information attached um to some of the others. [1:44:00, 1:44:01]: If I could make one point, then [1:44:02, 1:44:15]: The city of Stockbridge, Stockbridge's ordinance currently do not require a uh town hall meeting or a meeting with the community. Uh other jurisdictions do as part of their rezoning process. Stockbridge has not adopted that. Uh [1:44:15, 1:44:35]: Our only avenue to reach out to the public is to send these public notification meetings, and whatever feedback we get, we can meet with the community at that time. Uh and as I noted earlier, the only response that we got to our letters uh was from the adjacent mobile home park owner uh until tonight, uh which is why we were a little bit surprised by the [1:44:35, 1:44:38]: the the the adjacent neighbors that showed up. [1:44:39, 1:44:43]: But again, we would be glad to set up a meeting between now and May eighth. [1:44:46, 1:44:56]: I would concur that they set up a meeting now between now and Apr and May eighth to uh hash out this and and make that as a condition. [1:44:56, 1:45:12]: And May eighth is when the counts you and the city council date. That's that's correct. That's our city council date. Okay. All right. I I I my thoughts are I think they did um give the community an opportunity for that for at least to have that one meeting um uh [1:45:14, 1:45:20]: It may not have been what what was thought or or it may have been a misunderstood, but they did give that opportunity. [1:45:20, 1:45:40]: Um and so I'm in agreement to have, you know, if if we decide to move forward um for them to meet and have a meeting uh before the city council meeting, um, because the city council meeting has to has to give input on this as well before it can before it can move forward. The city council has to give input. So I think that would be a good opportunity. [1:45:40, 1:45:47]: for you to get your community to get together if that's what you want, have that meeting before the city council meeting and and they you guys can set it up with them to meet. [1:45:48, 1:45:48]: Okay. [1:45:49, 1:45:53]: Um so we can if we decide to we can amend it to that. Does that make sense? [1:45:54, 1:45:57]: To you all. Okay. Mr. Dumas, do you have any [1:45:58, 1:46:02]: I can't think of any other multi family residential developments. [1:46:04, 1:46:07]: Even close to where this is located in the middle of Stockbridge. [1:46:10, 1:46:12]: I I just don't know if it's a a good fit. [1:46:14, 1:46:14]: Okay. [1:46:15, 1:46:15]: Okay. [1:46:18, 1:46:24]: Uh it there is one that's being developed now on thirty eight East Atlanta Road, uh that's two hundred plus units. [1:46:25, 1:46:26]: On East Atlanta. Yes. Okay. [1:46:33, 1:46:36]: But you're saying there's not one that's already existing? [1:46:37, 1:46:41]: Oh, he was saying there is one being developed, but you were saying there's not an existing one. [1:46:42, 1:46:43]: Like that. [1:46:43, 1:46:54]: Can you all both speak into the mic, please? Thank you. For the record. No worries. He you were saying that there's not an existing unit right now, like this one? Okay. I'm asking, is that what you said? [1:46:56, 1:46:57]: Yeah, yeah. [1:47:00, 1:47:01]: All right. [1:47:02, 1:47:06]: So I'm gonna uh ask, is there [1:47:08, 1:47:11]: One that would make a motion for the rezoning case R Z twenty. [1:47:11, 1:47:17]: twenty two dash oh seven consideration of rezoning request to assign the zoning district of M F R [1:47:17, 1:47:22]: Multiple family residential to property located at five seven six David Davis Road. [1:47:23, 1:47:27]: Parcel S zero five zero one zero zero two zero zero. [1:47:27, 1:47:28]: Zero? [1:47:28, 1:47:48]: Um with the amendment for them to meet. Is that how I would say that? Before the with the conditions with the condition um that they meet submitted by staff and the say say that again. I said but with the conditions, the three conditions that were submitted by staff and if you want to make a fourth about the [1:47:48, 1:47:55]: public meeting that they are required to have with the community. Okay. You could make that a condition as well prior to the the um May eighth. [1:47:56, 1:48:04]: Okay, so um may I have a motion uh for this rezoning case um with the conditions um that were the two conditions that were requested by the [1:48:04, 1:48:14]: staff and um with the additional third condition that they set up a meeting with the residents um within the community um prior to the May eighth. [1:48:14, 1:48:28]: meeting with the city council members. Ma madam vice chairman w staff actually presented three conditions. We had the other two cases plus the site plan. So if you want to add one that would be the fourth condition. I'm sorry. Okay so that's the fourth one. [1:48:28, 1:48:28]: Okay. [1:48:30, 1:48:32]: All right, so may I have a motion for that? [1:48:34, 1:48:35]: It's a lot. [1:48:35, 1:48:43]: Let me let me just make sure I have it. The two conditions from staff, the one condition for the community to meet with the developer. And what was the fourth one? [1:48:44, 1:49:04]: Uh for for clarification, there are three conditions for this rezoning case and a fourth could be added if you would like for there to be a public meeting uh between the applicants and the community prior to the May eighth. Okay, so we voted on the first one already to move forward. We voted on the first, yes, gotcha. Okay, all right. [1:49:04, 1:49:08]: I understand now. Do you want me to say it over? [1:49:09, 1:49:10]: Do I have a motion? [1:49:11, 1:49:29]: Madam Chair, before I make a motion, I just want to make one comment to the residents uh that took the time to come and voice their opinions and offer my thanks to you for doing so. I would uh like to remind you that the [1:49:30, 1:49:38]: Decisions of the Planning Commission, it's just a recommendation to the council, the governing authority. [1:49:39, 1:49:56]: Uh the final decision for approval or disapproval rests with the city council, not with the Planning Commission. They can agree with us whatever we decide. They can disagree with us. [1:49:56, 1:49:59]: Sometimes they agree with us, sometimes they don't. [1:50:00, 1:50:15]: So I want you to understand that because I think it's important, particularly if you're gonna have a meeting in between now and the time that they meet and vote on it, that you understand that their decision is binding and ours is not. [1:50:16, 1:50:21]: And having said that, I would make a motion to approve the uh [1:50:22, 1:50:23]: Rizarning case? [1:50:25, 1:50:31]: As recommended by staff with the four conditions that's been articulated. [1:50:32, 1:50:33]: The second. [1:50:34, 1:50:35]: I Harold, second it. [1:50:39, 1:50:39]: I [1:50:40, 1:50:41]: Those opposed? [1:50:45, 1:50:46]: Oh. [1:50:48, 1:50:51]: And so the motion has to be adopted with those conditions. [1:50:54, 1:51:00]: And the last one, the variance case VR twenty twenty two dash zero. Miss Nelson, we can't hear you. We can't hear you. [1:51:01, 1:51:12]: Okay. The last one, the variance case, VR twenty twenty two dash zero three, consideration of a variance request to grant a variance for property at five seven six. [1:51:12, 1:51:18]: Excuse me, Davis Road, parcel Sero five dash zero one zero zero two zero zero zero. [1:51:18, 1:51:22]: In order to allow for the construction of a town home development [1:51:22, 1:51:28]: The requested variants would reduce the front yard setback from the required minimum of fifty feet to twenty five feet. [1:51:29, 1:51:33]: Applicant four star real estate group USA Incorporated agent Alex Brock. [1:51:33, 1:51:33]: smet [1:51:34, 1:51:38]: Gambrel and Russell, LLP. The property is located in landlot ninety one, District twelve. [1:51:39, 1:51:43]: And it contains twenty seven point six three five plus or minus acres. [1:51:43, 1:51:44]: To be presented. [1:51:45, 1:51:45]: Okay. [1:51:46, 1:51:52]: Good evening. This is a variance case. The applicant has requested a variance to [1:51:52, 1:51:55]: Allow for the reduction in the front yard setbacks. [1:51:56, 1:52:01]: from the required minimum of fifty feet to twenty five feet. This is for the [1:52:02, 1:52:18]: MFR district, that's uh he's requested in rezoning. Mfr is multifamily residential and our unified development code requires it to have fifty feet in the front yard. Let me see if I have the um [1:52:20, 1:52:40]: I guess I don't. All right. So um anyway, that's that's we've been through some of these already. Uh there are certain uh seven, in fact, criteria to look at in in analyzing this. Um so the first is whether [1:52:40, 1:52:52]: the property has extraordinary and exceptional fiscal characteristics compared with other properties in the same don't zoning district. And yes, um it does. In fact, it's a very long and narrow [1:52:53, 1:53:13]: Uh property sloping downward by 70, some 70 feet to the rear, as I mentioned, has stream bluffers present, and these factors uh considerably limit the ability of the site to be developed, um, as well as the developer's ability to create a reasonable site plan with time. [1:53:12, 1:53:28]: town home lots. Uh the next one is uh whether literal interpretation of the UDC would deprive the applicant of rights that are enjoyed by others, uh o other owners of properties in the same don zoning district and um [1:53:29, 1:53:33]: Uh we feel that yes, applicant might be deprived of that ability. [1:53:34, 1:53:37]: And uh C criterion C [1:53:38, 1:53:41]: Whether any special privileges would be granted to this property owner. [1:53:42, 1:53:43]: We feel that they would not. [1:53:44, 1:53:47]: And also that the deni denial of the requested variants would [1:53:48, 1:53:51]: force the developer to comply with the standards and [1:53:51, 1:54:00]: having much larger lots and this would be create a hardship um considering the property's difficult ph physical characteristics. [1:54:00, 1:54:12]: Um, criterion D whether the variance would be consistent with the purposes and intent of the UTC, whether it would be compatible with neighboring uses, and whether it would serve the public welfare f welfare. [1:54:13, 1:54:21]: So we feel that it will be consistent with the UDC by encouraging most appropriate use of land and buildings on the subject property. [1:54:21, 1:54:23]: Um it would um [1:54:24, 1:54:35]: the variance in a most is a mostly residential area, which has l had little development activity in recent years, and it'll be compatible with other residential uses in the area. [1:54:36, 1:54:41]: Criterion E, whether the extraordinary circumstances are not result of the actions of the applicant [1:54:41, 1:54:46]: No, obviously the physical conditions were not oh the property were not created by the applicant. [1:54:47, 1:54:52]: A criterion F whether the variance is the minimum relief that would allow the legal use of land [1:54:52, 1:54:53]: Um [1:54:53, 1:54:58]: although developer could still build a town home development under MFR without the variance um [1:54:59, 1:55:06]: he would be significantly constrained in designing it um to uh an economically feasible uh product. [1:55:07, 1:55:23]: Criterion G, um the request for variance is not uh request to permit a use of land or structure buildings or structures that's prohibited in the MFR district and uh no town homes are a permitted use within the MFR district. [1:55:24, 1:55:30]: So we have found that the subject property's physical characteristics substantially limit its developability. [1:55:31, 1:55:38]: And that without the requested variants, it may not be possible to build a sufficient number of townhome units to be economically feasible. [1:55:39, 1:55:44]: Um, we conclude that the requested variance is reasonable and should be granted. [1:55:45, 1:55:55]: And and all but that of course it should only be granted if the comprehensive plan amendment case and the rezoning case are simultaneously approved. So um [1:55:55, 1:56:13]: Therefore we recommend approval with conditions, those conditions being the same as before, that the comprehensive plan amendment is is approved, rezoning cases approved, and the site plan which I uh m mentioned before the uh the developer complies with that site plan. [1:56:15, 1:56:16]: Any questions? [1:56:25, 1:56:25]: It's so good. [1:56:26, 1:56:30]: To decrease the fifty feet to twenty five. [1:56:30, 1:56:31]: That's correct. [1:56:32, 1:56:33]: Mike, Miss Nelson. [1:56:33, 1:56:42]: Sorry. They wanna decrease the fifty feet to the twenty five feet. That's correct. And the city is in approval of it. Yes. Because explain that again. [1:56:42, 1:56:56]: Well, the physical conditions of the property make it make it difficult. As you saw at the on the site plan, the whole rear section of the property um cannot be built on. You know, it's got a stream there and a and a a creek and a a [1:56:57, 1:57:14]: uh wetlands areas and so forth and cannot build any units there. So therefore the units have to all be built on the remainder of the property, all, you know, so compressed into a much smaller area rather than evenly distributed uh among the entire site. [1:57:16, 1:57:23]: Okay. And you all agree with that. That's correct. That's correct. Okay. All right. [1:57:23, 1:57:25]: You all have any questions? [1:57:26, 1:57:38]: I do have a question for staff. Um, and I've held my peace through the comprehensive plan discussion and the rezoning question because I wanted to [1:57:40, 1:57:55]: make sure I heard the answer before I asked the question, if that makes sense. But as you recall, this case was presented to us in January and it got pulled back. [1:57:55, 1:58:15]: And but we did receive the documentation and and read it and digested it. And the conclusion that you guys recommended to us at that time was radically different from the conclusion that you're recommending for us today. [1:58:15, 1:58:21]: Obviously you had a come to Jesus moment somewhere between January and April and I just wanna to uh [1:58:23, 1:58:43]: Well the applicant has uh significantly reduced the number of units to be built. Originally was two hundred thirty five units, now is a hundred and seventy units, so that uh reduces the density a great bit. And then they work with us to on the site plan to to change some things and make it more acceptable. [1:58:44, 1:59:04]: But it's still high density multifamily residential development. Which if I recall in the earlier narrative, your recommendation um even used the word spot zoning and it wasn't compatible with the surrounding properties and stuff like that. I and I was just curious as to [1:59:04, 1:59:05]: [7145.5, 7162.9]: Well well again the density has g been greatly reduced. It's still within the range of the high density classification and that's because uh as before was mentioned the high density uh it starts at six units per acre and this is actually gonna be just six point one five units per acre. [1:59:23, 1:59:43]: And then goes all the way up to sixteen units per acre. And that there is a gap between high density and medium medium density. This is this is this is how the comprehensive plan was written. Um there's a gap. So medium density residential stops at 3.6 units per acre. So anything [1:59:43, 1:59:50]: more than three point six units per acre automatically falls into the category of high density residential. [1:59:52, 2:00:02]: Okay. I I I'm not trying to put you on the spot. I I just'cause I I happen to think that I mean, I would have voted in favor of it in January. [2:00:02, 2:00:21]: You know, um I'm just saying that for the record, but uh I just want to know how you got from point A to point B. That's right. And and and and for the public we didn't act we we presented materials to you but we did not hold a meeting on it at the time. We we correct postponed the case. Correct. So that the applicant could make these changes. [2:00:26, 2:00:28]: All right. Thank you, Miss Logan. [2:00:29, 2:00:35]: And Miss Logan, I have a question before you before you leave. So in other words that [2:00:36, 2:00:38]: You guys the zoning. [2:00:40, 2:00:53]: staff got all the information from the applicant and made this decision about reducing the number of townhomes in that particular project, right? Am I correct to say that? [2:00:53, 2:01:10]: Well, originally because of the two thirty five units we thought that was excessive for the site and then then the the uh applicant uh requested uh uh deferral of case to to look into it further and and make some changes and then they did. [2:01:10, 2:01:30]: And and then after they made those changes, then staff agreed with those changes. Am I correct, sir? That's correct. Good, okay. I just wanna get some clarification as for us what Mr. Dumas was talking about so that we can understand why these changes were made from January to now and they are presenting the case now to us. [2:01:31, 2:01:51]: Mr. Thibodeau, if I may add, so in looking at this project, we um looked at the number of units that were originally being proposed. Um the applicant went back to reduce that number because we would not have been able to provide any type of favorable recommendation. [2:01:50, 2:02:10]: recommendation based on what was originally submitted. We looked at the land use and the potential of other types of uses going in that space. Commercial would not be appropriate. Single family homes likely would not go there or sell well well because there's a mobile home just to the west. [2:02:10, 2:02:30]: um and to the south and we wanted to ensure that we looked broad broadband at the project overall. Um the concern about the comprehensive plan where it at at three point six units and up is considered high density. [2:02:30, 2:02:50]: Is problematic for us. However, we are undergoing a five-year update that the state requires us to go through to amend our comprehensive plan and make it more a transition of uses than we have currently. So we will be undergoing that. [2:02:50, 2:02:58]: process um and we'll be addressing this type these type these types of matters and these types of projects. [2:03:00, 2:03:01]: Thank you. [2:03:03, 2:03:06]: Okay. Any other questions? [2:03:07, 2:03:10]: Okay. Does the developer need to come back? [2:03:11, 2:03:13]: No, we can open it up for public hearing unless [2:03:14, 2:03:15]: There any questions? [2:03:17, 2:03:33]: I I had a question. Um, what was your what was your um and I read what you wrote, but I just wanna hear what you have to say about the decrease from the fifty feet to to the twenty five feet. Yes, and you you're the I think the city is saying because it's not as much property they [2:03:33, 2:03:53]: felt like it would be enough room because it's not enough room to spread it out with the wetlands. That's my interpretation. That's correct. And if I have the opportunity I believe the applicant has an opportunity to uh present because this is a separate You do matter. Okay. I'll answer that. And just for the record, my name's Alex Brock with Smith Gambrel Russell, 1105 West Peace Street Street. [2:03:53, 2:04:13]: Um and before I get into the hardships, I believe Miss Logan uh uh articulated some of the hardships that we're facing, I will note that the plan that's here tonight, it is different than what was what staff reviewed in January. Uh you know there's drop in density that uh Ms. Logan mentioned, uh there's other improvements. But another [2:04:13, 2:04:25]: Another thing that's important to this hearing is that we were originally proposing three variances. We were able to eliminate two through redesign. One that we could not eliminate was the front yard setback. [2:04:25, 2:04:45]: And that's due strictly to the heart the shape of the property uh and the topography. As you can see, it's a long, narrow property. Uh the houses are facing uh inward each other, which allows for a uh efficient layout of the development with the loop road uh and efficient uh traffic circulation through the property. [2:04:46, 2:05:06]: We looked at several other designs before we came to this and before we resubmitted this to uh uh staff in February. Some of those turned the houses different ways just so we could try to meet the 50 uh foot setback. Um it it became a very awkward uh layout, uh particularly with fire. [2:05:06, 2:05:26]: Fire access. We do have to have certain requirements to meet fire apparatus access, which they can't uh we can't have a dead end more than 150 feet. This this layout accomplishes all of that. We were as I said, we were able to eliminate the other two variances which were for maximum. [2:05:26, 2:05:30]: minimum lock coverage and to uh a side yard setback. [2:05:31, 2:05:51]: However, again, we were not able to uh uh lengthen the front yard setback uh beyond the 25 feet. And we've mitigated that impact uh for the shorter driveways uh by other other issues, most notably through the addition of a significant number of off-street parking spaces. One of the drawbacks. [2:05:51, 2:06:11]: Of having a shorter driveway is that you don't you have less parking in the drive. Some people find that unattractive, but then again, it's preferable to parking on the street. The way we've gotten around that is to add heading guest parking spaces, which it may be easier to see on your letter size sheets that you have in your packet than on my board. But the [2:06:11, 2:06:31]: The center blocks of the development have a number of head-end parking spaces. I believe there's a little over 90 head-end parking spaces, uh, off-street parking spaces for guest parking. And we are still maintaining uh at least one one to two spaces per unit within the driveway for additional parking. So we're not anticipating. [2:06:31, 2:06:32]: Um [2:06:33, 2:06:40]: issues with on street parking. We we are providing well over the the minimum number of required parking spaces. [2:06:40, 2:07:00]: Um as I mentioned my uh first presentation, I think the city requires uh it is uh 2.25 units per acre. Uh we are above that, we're closer to 3.84 uh spaces per unit. Or excuse me, 2.25 uh parking spaces per unit. [2:07:00, 2:07:07]: We are at uh three point eight four spaces per unit uh for a total of uh six hundred and fifty four parking spaces. [2:07:08, 2:07:28]: Some other issues that uh we have is that four star in their HOA it's a uh they maintain the landscaping for each unit as well as the common areas. So a longer driveway uh a l you know, requires more maintenance. Uh a lot of times people move into townhomes because they don't want to deal with the yard anymore. Uh [2:07:28, 2:07:48]: Uh and the HOA will take care of that in four stars communities. When you have a lengthened driveway and longer front yard, that's more maintenance, uh increased cost for maintenance and also increases the HOA dues to compensate for that. So at it particularly at this price point, that becomes difficult for a lot of homeowners uh to have the increased [2:07:48, 2:07:49]: H O A do's. [2:07:52, 2:08:00]: Um and then also finally, 50 foot front yard setback is atypical for most townhome developments. [2:08:00, 2:08:20]: We we found it odd that City of Stockbridge has that for their townhomes. Uh we could we actually looked and could not find another townhome development within the city uh that had a 50-foot driveway. Um, you know, if anybody has an example of that, we would be glad to go out and look at it. But most townhomes are around the 25 to 30 foot uh driveway. [2:08:20, 2:08:25]: That is typical for most other jurisdictions as well. [2:08:25, 2:08:45]: So what we are asking for is not out of the ordinary. We're not asking for something extraordinarily short uh for the front yard setback. Uh and it's due strictly to the shape of the property, the long, narrow shape of the property, as well as the topography. As Miss Logan mentioned, uh we have almost a seventy foot drop uh from Davis Road down to the rear of the property. [2:08:45, 2:08:50]: And that what that does is along with the stream buffers, it pushes everything uh uh [2:08:51, 2:08:56]: to the south. Uh so we are confined with how we can lay out the uh the development as well. [2:08:56, 2:09:00]: So with that, uh you know, we would request your approval of this variant. [2:09:04, 2:09:10]: Miss Miss Carter, I was just curious, is this something that will change in the um you said you're that we're gonna have to re review [2:09:11, 2:09:14]: the I guess the current policy, is this something that would change in it? [2:09:15, 2:09:35]: That's something that that the Plan Commission can direct staff to look at um and see what the best practices are in the area. Uh we have a lot of townhomes that are going in throughout the city um that are just under just in the development phases through um plan reviews at this point. So yes, we could definitely look at this look at this item. Okay. [2:09:36, 2:09:37]: Right. [2:09:38, 2:09:40]: Is this open to public comment? [2:09:41, 2:09:45]: Okay. Um any public comments on this last [2:09:45, 2:09:47]: Item for the variants. [2:09:47, 2:09:48]: Yes, sir. [2:09:54, 2:09:58]: Mark McBride, two eighty nine Shields Road. Um [2:09:59, 2:10:11]: I'm just curious if if I was wanting to build some town homes across the road on my property and I had a builder's license, would that variance be applied to me or is it just to them? [2:10:12, 2:10:32]: for this particular project or is it gonna be changed throughout? Or is it just town homes or is it any kind of homes? I I s I I'm you know, I don't know everything, but I know building and uh I know you have rules for a reason and uh sound like they won't [2:10:32, 2:10:35]: wanted to cram as many of these as they could. Profitability. [2:10:36, 2:10:42]: If they were want to put two hundred and thirty homes in there, I don't see how they could have done it and you know. [2:10:42, 2:10:56]: i if they couldn't use the back part and then now they saying they c they they can't get the hundred and seventy unless they got fifty you know, twenty five versus fifty. I mean, I I don't know. Um I I I'm questioning that myself. [2:11:01, 2:11:04]: Any other comments opposed to this variance? [2:11:12, 2:11:26]: Dylan Garnett of 566 Davis Road. My questions for the developers are uh I seen in the letter that they said they also wanted to take go from fifteen feet in the back of the property. [2:11:26, 2:11:27]: To ten feet? [2:11:29, 2:11:34]: Y'all removed that? Okay. See so that was my only question. So and the buffer line [2:11:34, 2:11:41]: Uh, are you guys going to explain how far the buffer is from the home's backyard to [2:11:41, 2:11:43]: You know, to the adjacent properties. [2:11:43, 2:12:03]: Is is that something they can address at the meeting that they're gonna set up? I can answer that. So the buffer is going to be at from the property line inside of their property line into their property. The buffer will not encroach onto your side if you are adjacent. Okay. It's is it is located there for screening for screening. [2:12:03, 2:12:10]: Screening screening mechanism. Okay. Yeah, those are my only two questions. So they can't touch his property. No, they cannot. Okay. [2:12:10, 2:12:11]: Thank you, madam. [2:12:18, 2:12:19]: Okay. Any other [2:12:21, 2:12:24]: Comments opposed or for the variants? [2:12:26, 2:12:26]: Okay. [2:12:31, 2:12:32]: You want to say something? [2:12:38, 2:12:58]: Just to uh address some of the concerns that the uh the neighbors brought up. One thing that uh the gentleman that lives at the uh corner, Davis and Shields Road, mentioned was if any developer could use this variance, as uh this body likely knows, as well as uh planning staff can uh reiterate, is variances. [2:12:58, 2:13:10]: are particular to a uh particular piece of property and based on the hardships peculiar to that uh specific property. So our the grant of our variants does not have any um [2:13:11, 2:13:26]: precedents or lying on any other property. So if we are granted a variance for a front yard setback, doesn't mean our neighbors could go back and and build into that setback as well. And one other thing to note is that fifty foot setback is peculiar to this uh zoning district as well. [2:13:30, 2:13:40]: Um and then Mr. Garnet, I I believe I answered his questions or we answered his. He had a question about the the other setbacks. We've withdrawn those variances uh when we redesigned the the site. [2:13:46, 2:13:53]: One one more thing. Are you aware that Stockbridge City Ordinance does not allow parking on city streets? [2:13:54, 2:14:14]: I'm not aware of that, but that's something that is typically enforced through HOA Covenants, uh, regardless. Um that is one of the reasons why we've tried to provide so much parking um on the on our site. Okay. I just wanted to make sure that you and you answer my question when you said covenants, that something could be written into the covenants to let people [2:14:14, 2:14:20]: Yes, I would believe if we have any objections to that. [2:14:22, 2:14:42]: Madam President, may I speak on that about no parking on city streets? They actually have a setup where they will allow parking just for certain events in uh certain subdivision. I mean sub subdivisions and certain areas. [2:14:42, 2:15:02]: city has something in place pertaining to that. So it's not a total package where you can't park on street. But if if there's events, they have to uh I think get uh permits from the city in relationship to that. So you might want to check on that situation also. [2:15:10, 2:15:11]: Yeah, you said that we [2:15:13, 2:15:19]: I wanted to uh get clarification. You said that we can request for more information on [2:15:20, 2:15:21]: Um [2:15:21, 2:15:26]: Are you saying tonight or you're saying whether in the future this is gonna be amended? [2:15:26, 2:15:27]: Um just [2:15:28, 2:15:31]: about the the spacing and things. He was saying that [2:15:32, 2:15:35]: That's not the norm um for [2:15:35, 2:15:38]: Townhouses, if you were saying that we've gotta make some changes anyway. [2:15:39, 2:15:59]: Yeah, so we we do have a few changes that we're gonna we're looking at in the UDC that we found, you know, best practices where we need to make those tweaks here and there. Um but we will consider that um and bring something to you guys in the coming months. Uh we'll probably bring some legislation to you guys as proposed um as we do our [2:15:59, 2:16:02]: our research. I have my team to research and and we'll get back with you on that. [2:16:03, 2:16:12]: Is there any way that you can research to see if i if we if we decided to postpone this or something like that, can you see if that's something that would be changed? [2:16:13, 2:16:15]: In terms of best practices? [2:16:15, 2:16:33]: Yes. Oh well I'd have to do the research and see if it's in fact um a requirement of a lot of jurisdictions or similar jurisdictions to the city of Stockbridge. And from there we would, you know, confer with our zoning attorney to determine if it's something we need to bring forward to you all and to the city council. Okay. [2:16:33, 2:16:44]: Because my I mean my thoughts are I agree, I think rules are put in place for a reason and of course I don't know anything about this, but um I know the rules are put in in in for a reason and so if you change it for one [2:16:45, 2:17:05]: It seems like you'd have to change it for another, you'd have to change it for another. Um well you have the option to deny it and state that the applicant has to build in accordance with the code and that's it. Right. So it's gets it's gets sticky if you say okay to this person, but then you tell this person no. It seems like that would get sticky when the the rules are there. Right. Well you those are just [2:17:05, 2:17:17]: You do set a precedence when you do um a precedent when you do approve a variance. Um and if you determine there is a hardship or not, um that typically will will guide your decision. Okay. [2:17:18, 2:17:20]: All right. Any other [2:17:21, 2:17:22]: Questions from the [2:17:22, 2:17:23]: Commission. [2:17:24, 2:17:25]: Yes, sir. [2:17:31, 2:17:51]: If I could just make uh one or two points uh quickly. One uh if city staff does go back to look at this issue as far as the town home lengths, I mean that is uh a lengthy process where they'll have to investigate it and uh determine whether or not they are uh what other jurisdictions use as best practices for the uh the length of the driveways. Um we would urge you to [2:17:51, 2:18:00]: Move forward tonight on this uh while they uh go back and look at their their code issues. And the second point I would say is that um [2:18:01, 2:18:12]: There's not necessarily there's not strict precedence for granting a variance. Uh variances are peculiar to a particular property uh based on the hardships and of that property. [2:18:13, 2:18:21]: So the grant of the variance tonight does not mean our neighbors can uh uh should be granted the same variance uh for a different property. Uh [2:18:23, 2:18:33]: Again, our hardships are due strictly to the layout of our property, uh the long, narrow shape of it. It is peculiar to our property. That doesn't mean the uh [2:18:33, 2:18:46]: if the uh mobile home park to the uh west or to the south of us is redeveloped that they would meet the same hardships. Uh so there is no precedent for them to be granted the same variance. I j just wanted to make that point. [2:18:56, 2:19:05]: Oh it one one sorry. One other point I think is important. I can't believe I just forgot this, but [2:19:05, 2:19:25]: You just approved or recommended approval of the rezoning of the COM plan uh based on certain conditions. One of those was condition that the variants be approved as well, uh, and also that it was approved pursuant to the site plan that you see before you tonight, which includes the twenty-five-foot driveway. So I would urge you to move forward with a recommendation of approval on the [2:19:25, 2:19:31]: variants. Uh again, if council feels that it's uh not necessary, they can make the determination to [2:19:31, 2:19:43]: either adopt or remove conditions as necessary. Uh but since you have already recommended approval of the other two applications with those conditions, I would uh urge you to recommend approval of this as well. [2:19:47, 2:19:49]: I just I have a question in terms of funny book. [2:19:50, 2:20:10]: I have a question just in terms of point of order, may I ask you? Right. Point of order is that it is your decision tonight to determine whether there is in fact of hardship, if you believe there to be a hardship. And if so, that would guide your decision. Um and then of course you are the recommending body to the city [2:20:10, 2:20:23]: council and the council will make the final decision. But it is up to you whether you want to move forward with this. You can ad deny it, you can approve it with the conditions, or you can table it. You have those options ahead of you. Can it be postponed? [2:20:24, 2:20:28]: Yes, that's that's the same as tabling, yes ma'am. Okay. [2:20:28, 2:20:28]: What do you guys think? [2:20:30, 2:20:31]: That's kind of quite. [2:20:35, 2:20:37]: Okay. I have to make the motion. Okay. [2:20:39, 2:20:39]: Yeah. [2:20:41, 2:20:42]: If I can make [2:20:47, 2:21:07]: If I can make one last point. Uh and I just to reiterate, um I would also urge this body not to postpone uh or defer the application, uh just because there is a lengthy amount of time that the uh staff would take to do their research uh and then come up with a uh change to the the ordinance if so deemed. Um that [2:21:07, 2:21:27]: If they do make a change to the ordinance, that would uh affect future townhome developments in the city of Stockbridge. Um but we would urge you to move forward tonight based on the hardships, based on our particular peculiar uh circumstances on our property. I would like to make a point of order that the public hearing has been closed and that you can't do that. [2:21:27, 2:21:28]: You are ready for a motion. [2:21:29, 2:21:30]: Okay, thank you. [2:21:33, 2:21:34]: Okay. [2:21:36, 2:21:41]: I would like to see if we have a motion to um postpone this particular um [2:21:41, 2:21:46]: variants so we can just get some more information. Um [2:21:47, 2:21:53]: Because the rules are set and I I'm not sure how to phrase this, so I would uh see if we have a motion to postpone it. [2:21:55, 2:22:10]: I do have a question. Is the postponement based on the research needed f to determine whether that hardship is should be granted or is it based on uh best practices across? Best practices. Okay. [2:22:11, 2:22:11]: Just one moment. [2:22:17, 2:22:37]: So so because of the current even if we do the research, it is not approved by the city council today. So postponing it w may not achieve, I think, what you what you think it might. Um so what the applicants are vested in is what the code is today. So you all would have the determination. [2:22:37, 2:22:44]: To recommend approval, denial, or to table it all together. Okay. [2:22:48, 2:22:51]: Madam President, may I speak? Absolutely. [2:22:52, 2:22:54]: First of all, when you approve [2:22:54, 2:22:55]: Uh [2:22:56, 2:23:09]: The other rezoning you basically add it to all the rest of'em because if you don't approve the variance, then everything else doesn't get approved on there. [2:23:11, 2:23:15]: So and basically you you acknowledge [2:23:15, 2:23:20]: Most of the approval process here anyway. Uh [2:23:21, 2:23:25]: You would be defeating your purpose of all decisions we made tonight. [2:23:27, 2:23:28]: If we don't go forward. [2:23:29, 2:23:41]: And then you can also have the homeowners uh we can add stipulations to this even when we approve it, which you've already done on one of them that [2:23:43, 2:23:55]: we have approval to it. We actually put stipulations to some of these already. So you basically just about complete the whole task right now. [2:24:00, 2:24:11]: So do I have a motion to um move forward with this variance with um the uh the one that we've already approved, the ones that we've already approved. [2:24:12, 2:24:17]: the amendments that the city recommended as well as um the meeting [2:24:17, 2:24:20]: with the residents. Do I have a motion to [2:24:21, 2:24:22]: Approved this. [2:24:27, 2:24:36]: Are you asking for a motion? Yes. Yes, I'd like to make a motion. We accept this variance um along with the coinciding [2:24:38, 2:24:42]: And I second it, Harold. Condition? [2:24:43, 2:24:46]: Okay. Um all in favor say aye. Aye. [2:24:46, 2:24:47]: Aye. [2:24:48, 2:24:56]: Okay, those opposed, I'm opposed. So we have three forward and one against it. The eyes have it. So we will move forward with the variance. [2:24:57, 2:24:57]: Okay. [2:25:01, 2:25:02]: All right. [2:25:03, 2:25:05]: Project updates. Ms. Carter. [2:25:11, 2:25:15]: Hey, I have um just a few quick updates to make to you all. [2:25:16, 2:25:23]: Um as you know there have been um several town hall meetings that the council members have hosted and [2:25:28, 2:25:36]: And um as a result, um just wanna give you a few uh few tidbits of those meetings and we'll send this out to you as well. Um [2:25:41, 2:25:45]: I just want to kinda highlight some of the major city projects. [2:25:45, 2:26:05]: Um one of which is the uh project that you all approved for the final plat, which is Eagles Hill subdivision. There is a hotel that is going in right off of Spear Road, and that's uh the home to suites hotel and conference center. Um of course Argento at Bridges of Jotaco is underway. It is [2:26:05, 2:26:10]: is located um on the uh south side of Jotoko Road. [2:26:10, 2:26:30]: And there are 306 units underway. There's 16 buildings that are under construction, so a lot of movement there. Costco will be coming in at Bridges of Jotaco and the Holiday and Express as well. There's also a True Hilton Hotel that's being built on Papua. [2:26:30, 2:26:30]: Patrick Henry. [2:26:36, 2:26:38]: What do you want out of it? [2:26:39, 2:26:40]: You just need fold, right? [2:26:41, 2:26:46]: I you took we've share and you took it. Was it yeah. [2:26:50, 2:27:10]: And a few honorable mentions is the Starbucks that is um sub submitted uh for land disturbance application, Chick-fil-A that is scheduling a pre-submittal meeting, which they've done. And then we have other projects on the north and south side of 138, the apartments that were approved um several months ago. [2:27:09, 2:27:29]: And then the best western is um has been cited. It has not finished its construction um due to some um construction issues, um financial challenges that the owner is having. Um last but not least, I wanted to address the um five-year comprehensive plan update, which [2:27:29, 2:27:43]: we will be bringing to you all for your comments over the next months. We are required by the state to adopt an updated five-year plan by October. So we plan to have meetings in May. [2:27:44, 2:28:00]: in June and July for public comment. We have our website that will be up and running tomorrow uh so that people can do the surveys, provide comments, and uh get in the information that they're asking for. Um and that with that, that ends my comments for the evening. [2:28:06, 2:28:07]: No additional staff comments. [2:28:10, 2:28:15]: Just question for s for Bracket. Sure. The um Spear Row [2:28:16, 2:28:36]: Is that behind the McDonald's? Yes. That's the home to yes, it's right behind the McDonald's. Correct. It's gonna be a hotel and conference center. Yes. Um so they're uh uh they're proposing 108 rooms and it is currently underway as well. So a lot of movement, a lot of growth is going on in the room. [2:28:36, 2:28:42]: in the city and we're looking actually for more in our downtown area. So we're look trying to get that going as well. [2:28:42, 2:28:47]: What's happening with the hotel further down one thirty eight on the right? The best western. [2:28:48, 2:29:08]: I don't know what it's gonna be. It never got to the point where you could identify. We've had to cite the owner um for the property because they have not been able to complete it. Um it started originally, I wanna say in twenty eighteen before I came to the city, years before. Wow. And um it just uh [2:29:07, 2:29:27]: with a building sitting there, you have to get engineers to, you know, confirm that it is still structurally sound because it's been open um to all the elements. Um and of course still that broken window theory, we need to make sure we close up those windows and not make it be easy access for um for folks who are just [2:29:27, 2:29:38]: you know, pass it passing by. Um, so we are trying to work with that applicant to get things either done or we can condemn it and um get it taken down. [2:29:40, 2:29:40]: Okay. [2:29:41, 2:29:42]: Thank you. Absolutely. [2:29:52, 2:29:53]: Yeah. [2:29:53, 2:30:00]: Is there a motion for us to adjourn the meeting? Madam Chair, I move for adjournment. Okay. And I second Harold. [2:30:00, 2:30:07]: All in favor? Aye. Okay. Aye. Um the meetings are journey. Thank you so much. Okay. Have a good evening. [2:30:07, 2:30:16]: Do we need to do that? Do we want your notebooks back? Uh yes, please. Okay. Please. And we'll get you can take the information if you'd like, um, but we'll give them back to you for the next hearing. [2:30:18, 2:30:37]: We can leave it. You can leave it and we can have the maps. Yes, keep the maps. Yes, the maps are for for you all to keep. Okay. Yes. Home with you. Or you could Gordon will come and collect'em.

--- title: Regular Council Meetings date: 2023-04-10 source: 2023-04-10_Regular_Council_Meetings.wav --- [0:03:52, 0:04:12]: We see you, we will always fight and protect you for your safety and your well-being. We reaffirm our commitment to listening to children, standing with our brave survivors, and reaching out across our communities to support families and to help others in need. Whereas all community members have a role in ensuring children have a positive experience with family. [0:04:11, 0:04:31]: And have the resources they need when they need them. Well, before they are in a crisis, everyone in the community should become more aware of child abuse prevention and consider helping parents raise their children in a safe, nurturing environment. Our community should work together in a resounding this year theme: building together prevention and partner. [0:04:31, 0:04:51]: Whereas child abuse and neglect are preventable, and all communities benefit when children and families are well supported. Effective child abuse prevention programs are seen because of strong partnerships among the parent leaders, agencies, schools, religious organizations, law enforcement, and businesses in the community. Now, therefore, I am [0:04:51, 0:05:11]: Anthony S. Ward by virtual authority vested me as the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. And on behalf of City Councilmember Zelda and Alexander, Londe Barber, John Blount, and Kisi Gantt and Afonso Thomas do hereby proclaim March, excuse me, April 2023 as National Child Abuse Prevention Awareness Month. We call upon [0:05:11, 0:05:31]: Upon our community agencies, faith groups, elected leaders, medical groups, businesses, and individuals to increase their participation in efforts to support all families and strengthen the communities in which we live, thereby ensuring safety and preventing child abuse. A witness thereof, I have hereunto set my hand on the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, George on the 10th day. [0:05:31, 0:05:50]: April, year above the Lord, 2023. I signed the proclamation along with upclair for Nessa Holly. Here in this way. And now I don't think we have anybody specifically here to for me to issue this to you, but I tell you what I'd like to do. I want a few folks to come join me. [0:05:51, 0:05:53]: Anybody, come join me for a picture. All right. [0:05:53, 0:05:54]: Come on. [0:05:54, 0:05:57]: Don't be sad. All right, come on, join. [0:05:58, 0:05:59]: Come on, anybody? Come on. [0:06:00, 0:06:07]: Okay, where would you where we need to be? We need to be more centered? Is this is this good? On the other side? Let's come on the other side. Okay. [0:06:08, 0:06:08]: Okay. [0:06:10, 0:06:14]: See me on the come on around. It doesn't matter, the inside, the inside. [0:06:15, 0:06:17]: No, it's almost like [0:06:20, 0:06:22]: [386.4, 397.9]: We have a front front somewhere in the right. Come on aside. Okay. [0:06:44, 0:06:45]: Yeah. [0:06:57, 0:07:00]: Thank you folks. I really appreciate it. Appreciate you. Thank you. [0:07:07, 0:07:09]: That's all retired, you mother stayed right here. [0:07:10, 0:07:15]: And anybody else uh proclamation I'm gonna read now. [0:07:15, 0:07:17]: Anybody that wants to come on up for this and uh [0:07:18, 0:07:23]: Is everybody invited? Oh, come on, anybody's invite. Come on up. I'm gonna read this and then we'll take a photo, have a photo out. [0:07:24, 0:07:25]: All right. [0:07:26, 0:07:46]: It's good to see uh Chair Hurrel in in the house here. Appreciate that. Mr. Lewis, I don't know if this is the first time you've been here in business, sir. No, okay. Me too. It's all good. It's all good. It's all good. All right, here we go. It's a proclamation. City Star British Georgia recorded. [0:07:46, 0:07:50]: recognition of Southern Crescent Veterans Services Incorporated. [0:07:50, 0:08:03]: Where Southern Crescent Veterans Services incorporates a volunteer group of retired veterans from various war eras dedicated to assisting fellow veterans and employment, education, transition, training programs, and networking opportunities. [0:08:03, 0:08:23]: Where the Southern Crescent Veterans Services incorporate partners with various local nonprofit service organizations to meet the immediate needs of our veterans in financial crisis, shelter for homeless, veterans, employment or job leads, assistant with resume, filing for an increase of VA compensation or pension, as well as assisting them with filing their initial VA claim. [0:08:23, 0:08:43]: Whereas Southern Crescent Veterans Services incorporate a team of volunteers strive to serve our war heroes through a network of resources, contacts, and referrals where the goal is to connect veterans and their families with services and to be a conduit for many of the nonprofit organizations in our community who are serving our heroes. And whereas the Veterans of Conditions [0:08:43, 0:09:03]: Veteran conditions in the United States need more attention and care. Unfortunately, veterans are highly vulnerable to social issues such as huge educational debt, deaths, homelessness, and lack of medical care. Our community is of fortunate to have Southern Crescent Veteran Services step in and uplift our war heroes, providing free assistance to all veterans. [0:09:03, 0:09:11]: their surviving spouses and dependent children from all branches of the service. Now there now therefore I, Anthony S4, by virtue of vest of authority best in me, [0:09:11, 0:09:31]: As the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, and on behalf of City Council members Elton, Alexander, Londa Barber, John Blount, Nakesia Gann, and Afonso Thomas to hereby recognize Southern Crescent Veterans Services Incorporated for all that you do for our United States veterans, and we thank you for your volunteering your time and services as we ask the community to continue to support your efforts and witness thereof. [0:09:31, 0:09:41]: I have hereunto set my hand in the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the tenth day of April, year of our Lord, two thousand and twenty three, and I signed the proclamation along when I clerk for Nessal Holiday. [0:09:56, 0:10:09]: And the floor in the floor is yours? Oh, we try to show probably a church people. Thank you, Mary. [0:10:10, 0:10:30]: Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. I would just like to say thank you for coming out to support us. Um, without you, it will not be us. Um, we do the things that we do on behalf of our hearts to make sure that our veterans and our youths that are here in the Henry County and Clayton County area are taken care of. Um majority of the time you'll see me on Facebook begging a lot for even volunteers. [0:10:30, 0:10:41]: In kind of donations or monetary items to assist those who are in need. This is a truly appreciated award, so I thank you, Mayor Ford, for bringing it to us at this time. [0:10:41, 0:10:56]: Um if you know any best that's in the neighborhood that need our services, everything that we do and provide is free. Just let'em know that we're here to serve. And thank you. I appreciate it. Thank you as well. [0:10:57, 0:11:11]: Oh okay. Okay. I'm I'm just part of the group. So I'll be right here. It's all about you all. Okay, okay. There you go. [0:11:28, 0:11:32]: Good, how you doing? [0:16:01, 0:16:03]: [1016.4, 1017.7]: Yeah. [0:24:40, 0:24:40]: Yeah. [0:27:33, 0:27:34]: Mrs. Carter. [0:27:36, 0:27:37]: Mrs. Carter. [0:27:40, 0:27:41]: Mrs. Carter. [0:33:33, 0:33:36]: Ladies and gentlemen, Council, let's get started with the meeting, please. [0:33:51, 0:34:11]: If they were being able to fix that mirror for it. Well, I surely hope so. I have not looked at my email. I'm looking at Facebook Live now and I don't see that we're streaming live yet. Uh yes we are streaming live. They can hear us now. But my mic is on. I I have told them exactly what your concern was. [0:34:11, 0:34:16]: I meant I mentioned that to him. I didn't I don't see it on the Well, sorry about that. I I told him already. [0:34:21, 0:34:22]: Gentlemen, let's go. [0:34:35, 0:34:37]: I'm not going to have my either. No, sir. [0:34:42, 0:34:46]: Okay, we're live folks on Facebook as we're recording at this time. [0:34:46, 0:34:47]: I now have [0:34:48, 0:34:49]: Six oh five. [0:34:49, 0:34:53]: So I'd like to call our April tenth council meeting to order. [0:34:54, 0:35:00]: And on that note, please stand for invocation. Mass on retired basin, please do it honors. [0:35:05, 0:35:10]: Good evening, every one of you. Please close your eyes and bow your head as I give a brief indication. [0:35:11, 0:35:26]: Dear Heavenly Father, we'd like to thank you for this opportunity to come before you, to acknowledge that you are the one that's in charge of each and every one of us. We thank you for making the ultimate sacrifice in regards to giving your one and only son, as today is that day that he had rose from the dead. [0:35:27, 0:35:47]: We would like to thank the community for coming together to put forth the efforts to make sure that all citizens are loved, shown immense kindness, and to help them in their time of need. Please be with Mayor Ford and the elected council members to share good news and good deeds to the people who are seeking their advice and leadership. [0:35:46, 0:36:06]: We love you so very much for everything that you continue to do, and we pray this and accept this in the holy precious name of your son Jesus Christ. Amen. Amen. Pledge allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. And to be a public where we stand, one nation, one of God, indivisible, with liberty. [0:36:06, 0:36:08]: Just as well. [0:36:09, 0:36:11]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:36:15, 0:36:16]: Mayor Ford. Present. [0:36:17, 0:36:23]: Mayor Pro Tem Barber. Present. Councilman Alexander. Present. Councilman Blount. Present. [0:36:23, 0:36:29]: Councilwoman Gantt. Present. Councilman Thomas. Present. Mayor Ford, do you have a core? [0:36:29, 0:36:40]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. Council, I'm I'd like to do this. I have a I wanna make a I'd like for you to make a motion to amend the agenda to remove item number six, which is amphitheater rental policy. [0:36:42, 0:36:55]: Mayor Ford? Yes, sir. So moved. Is there a second? I second. Uh miss Ms. Gantt second. All in favor, please. Discussion. Uh discussion. No, sir. We we're gonna no no no need to discuss this. Either y yeah or nay, up or down. [0:36:55, 0:36:57]: Don't need to discuss. All in favor, please indicate. [0:36:58, 0:37:00]: Okay, I'll pose. [0:37:00, 0:37:12]: Okay, four's one. Okay, also, Council, if you don't mind I'd like to like a motion to uh motion to amend the agenda to add number eight eighteen, which would be an ordinance for consumption of alcohol at the amphitheater. [0:37:14, 0:37:15]: Don't lose. [0:37:15, 0:37:16]: I second. [0:37:16, 0:37:18]: No, there's gotta be a so move. [0:37:18, 0:37:24]: Yep, Miss Barber. So Miss I didn't see it. Miss Barber so move, Madame Ford. Okay, Miss Gantt second there. Okay, all favor, please indicate. [0:37:25, 0:37:36]: Call opposed? Oh, says okay, unanimous decision. All right, fantastic. Mayor, you said number eight. Excuse me. Number eight number eighteen, we'll add uh ordinance for consumption of alcohol to empathy for discussion number eight, item number eighteen. [0:37:37, 0:37:37]: Okay. [0:37:38, 0:37:57]: And also uh Council need a motion to amend the agenda for discussion, which will be item number nineteen, uh, for the Southern Crescent Technical College uh for amphitheater rental agreement. But uh I'd like to have that right after our first presentation so we don't keep them waiting all evening. Mayor Ford. Yes, ma'am. This will be for a discussion item. [0:37:58, 0:38:10]: It's actually uh for disc it what's going to be for approval. Well uh approval actually. But none of us have approval before approval or disapproval. But none of us have read the contract. [0:38:10, 0:38:23]: It was just Okay, I'll tell you what. You want it for discussion, we'll have a discussion. And then if we decide if we if we decide okay, if we decide to do something different, the council will decide to do something different. For discussion. Are you are you so moved? I will make a motion for discussion. Okay, is there s is there a second? [0:38:24, 0:38:31]: I wanna we we doing a rental policy, but we not we took the rental policy off. That's [0:38:31, 0:38:32]: That is correct. [0:38:33, 0:38:36]: I'm certainly support them moving ahead with this, but [0:38:36, 0:38:44]: Uh what w how are we gonna do that without the policy? But Well there's there's a there's a sign of uh a policy in front of you. Sign agreement in front of you at this time. [0:38:44, 0:38:44]: Four. [0:38:45, 0:38:45]: Yeah. [0:38:46, 0:38:47]: Mayor Forrest. Yes, Mayor. [0:38:47, 0:38:50]: I understand um what Councilman Alexander is saying now. [0:38:51, 0:39:11]: Have we approved the we've already approved a rental prom policy agreement, correct? Well we did approve it. There were some potential some adjustments that we wanted to make, but this this this particular policy with the Southern Crescent uh college have been worked through for the last several months or so. Okay. And attorneys have been actively involved in this as well. All right. So I will move to has anyone made a movement? Well she wants to [0:39:11, 0:39:18]: Mr. Pro Tem one discussed this versus versus having a a um a presentation to for approval or disapproval. [0:39:19, 0:39:19]: Okay. [0:39:20, 0:39:34]: Well anyway, you I mean you can always vote. Exactly right. So it could be for discussion. She made a motion for discussion. Is there a second motion? I second. Okay. And I want to it it's gonna be right after the presentation. Be up early. All right. Okay, so second advice, Miss Cann. All in favor, please indicate. [0:39:35, 0:39:43]: All right, unanimously fantastic. Okay, on that note, Council, you have before you uh the adoption of minutes uh for the council meeting on February thirteenth. [0:39:44, 0:39:53]: And also the council work session on February twenty-eighth. If there are no particular changes for the clerk for this particular these particular minutes, I need a motion to approve them. [0:39:53, 0:39:54]: Miss Barber? [0:39:55, 0:39:56]: Is our second? [0:39:56, 0:39:59]: Mr. Blount secondary. All favor, please indicate. [0:39:59, 0:40:03]: Unanimous decision. Thank you very much. Okay. Um [0:40:04, 0:40:07]: Uh Madam Clerk, is there any are there any public comments at all? [0:40:07, 0:40:10]: Mayor Ford, we do have one public comment. [0:40:11, 0:40:13]: Okay, come on forward please. [0:40:15, 0:40:17]: Name and address as you come forward. [0:40:22, 0:40:30]: Hi, good evening. My name is Fran Morgan. I live at three sixteen Spring Creek Drive. Okay. [0:40:31, 0:40:32]: Okay, and [0:40:34, 0:40:51]: I am a homeowner and I have lived in Will Springs subdivision for the past eleven years. The reason I'm here today is because we have quite a few residents that are parking their vehicles, trailers, recreational vehicles on the grass in the front, sides, and rear yard. [0:40:51, 0:41:10]: The grass is no longer there where it's these vehicles are being parked. This is not only an eyesore but an embarrassment when our friends and family come to visit and it has to see all this. It's also important we protect our property values and this could deter potential buyers. [0:41:10, 0:41:30]: I am aware that the city does have a code that does not allow vehicles to park in the street, but I have been told that there is no city code preventing vehicles from parking on the grass, which is an unimproved surface. I am asking if you could please review this and consider adding a city code that would not allow any. [0:41:30, 0:41:36]: vehicle trailer or recreational vehicle to be front parked in the front yard, side or rear. [0:41:36, 0:41:42]: of a residential zone property. I don't believe this should apply to the entire city of Stockbridge. [0:41:42, 0:41:47]: But it should apply to single family residential homes that are in a subdivision. [0:41:48, 0:41:53]: And I have pictures that I can leave you all if you want to review them later on. [0:41:53, 0:42:13]: to just see what's going on. I'll tell you what the the city manager is over here. He would take those pictures from you. He'll take review this in this aspect. I thought for sure we we have this covered in the ordinance. Of course our police chief is in the audience here tonight as well. Uh but uh the the police officers do we do have an ordinance and they follow the ordinance. So we'll double check what your thoughts here and make sure this accurate and we make [0:42:13, 0:42:22]: To adjustments appropriately. But the Mr. Gardner is right there, ma'am. Unless there's something else, you he will meet you and you can hand him those pictures. Okay? Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you. Appreciate it. [0:42:24, 0:42:31]: All right, next on item is ceremonial. Earlier today, uh we actually had two proclamations that uh read. [0:42:31, 0:42:49]: And uh the first one dealt with uh Child Abuse Prevention Awareness Month, which is April. And uh in the in and about the city you will see uh blue and silver pinwheels indicating our support for child abuse and uh excuse me, a support against child abuse, excuse me, and this aspect and prevention. Um [0:42:50, 0:42:58]: And it's and he has some signs there as well. Uh so I want you to know that we're very supportive of uh the aspect that uh we need to take care of our children. [0:42:58, 0:43:18]: And okay. And also the the other proclamation dealt with the Southern Crescent Veterans Us uh Corporated and Massar Basin who gave the invocation today received that and she has uh outstanding organization that works with veterans across the board to assist with them with anything that they need in reference to health issues. [0:43:18, 0:43:38]: Issues, job issues, and anything else, anything that deals with veterans, period. So it's very, very worthwhile and quite a bit of support that we have given here in the local community in reference to that. On that note, we'll move on to our presentation, annual CVB convention, Visitors Bureau 2020. [0:43:38, 0:43:44]: twenty two report presented by Laura Lucre, the executive director. Please, Laura, come forward. [0:43:54, 0:43:55]: Mm. [0:44:08, 0:44:09]: Huh? [0:44:10, 0:44:30]: Yep. Okay, there we go. Thank y'all. Uh I am Laura Lucer. I'm the Director of Tourism for Visit Henry. And um I've spoken with all of you previously, so I won't go into the specifics, just quickly to say that um we are excuse me. Okay, we are the destination marketing organization for the [0:44:30, 0:44:40]: city of Stockbridge as well as for Stockbridge or for Hampton and Locust Grove and then for unincorporated Henry County. And that means that we are um charged with the [0:44:41, 0:44:50]: promotion of um all the things that there are to do in order to make Henry County and all of its cities um a desirable destination for visitors. [0:44:50, 0:45:07]: And our mission is to inspire tourism um by engaging the partners, that's you, and all of our hotels, restaurants and attractions in the community in order to build a sense of hospitality for Henry County's um visitors to stimulate economic development because economic development is what it is all about. [0:45:09, 0:45:27]: So in 2020, I know that there were several, excuse me, 2022. Uh nobody wants to go back to 2020. Uh 2022 there were uh several changes. Um that is our first full year that we collected um hotel motel taxes from short term rentals, but it also I know that you've had several um [0:45:28, 0:45:31]: New hotels come into the city of Stockbridge with your [0:45:32, 0:45:52]: um annexation. So the numbers next year and the percentages will look a little bit different. But as I said, we do represent four different entities and you'll see those percentages of budget makeup represented here. The orange is Henry County. The yellow is um the excuse me, orange is Locust Grove, yellow is city of um or Henry County [0:45:52, 0:45:53]: Yeah. [0:45:53, 0:46:09]: Uh the gray is stockbridge at about 20% with Hampton making up that the little blue strip at the top. Um and that's um representing about 30 hotels and a bed and breakfast across um all of the community. [0:46:11, 0:46:31]: So um in 2022 um we had a variety of um things that we were working on, specifically um one of which was visitor services. Um we have our 2022 visitors guide that was um our second installation of our magazine quality visitors guide. Um and [0:46:31, 0:46:39]: And it continued the work that the previous issue had started, where we had pioneered having four. [0:46:39, 0:46:59]: Custom brochure racks from Barn Beautiful in four of the welcome centers and it was so successful we expanded that to eight. Um there are nine centers, only eight will allow any type of promotion from outside of their region. Um and so we did it in all eight and we went through um a little over fifty thousand guides. We're actually still waiting. [0:46:59, 0:47:00]: [2820.9, 2830.3]: um from our distributor if we went through more than that we ordered sixty five thousand um and we had to order fifteen additional thousand in June because we were already running out. So [0:47:10, 0:47:13]: Um that was incredibly successful, and we do have. [0:47:13, 0:47:23]: our twenty twenty three's that just came in, so if you haven't had a chance to see those, I encourage you to um request one. We'll leave some for everybody at the city as well. [0:47:24, 0:47:44]: And then some new things that we really put into practice and we're excited about this year was our photo kiosk. This is a freestanding, independent touchscreen kiosk. It allows visitors to interact with it and select from 12 different branded city backgrounds. You can see some examples of some of those photos that people have taken. They can email it to them. [0:47:43, 0:47:58]: themselves or text it to themselves, but on the back end it lets us know what they're interested in, where they're from, um, how many people they shared it with, that kind of information. Um and so we have one at the center now and we have asked if we could expand that program as well. [0:48:00, 0:48:20]: Then in 2023, excuse me, we launched our new mobile visitor center, but we started that process mid-year in 2022. And we hired our part-time expert explorer. In September, she started and began working events such as at your local the theater, not the theater, the [0:48:20, 0:48:40]: Amphitheater at hotels, restaurants, events around the community. And she is supported by more than 30 trained, what we call local explorers, which is our volunteer force. And they were incredibly successful at engaging volunteers or visitors at those events. The goal with this program is to meet visitors where [0:48:39, 0:48:50]: they are. They're coming into the destination maybe with little to no knowledge of what else they could do, maybe other than what they're there to do. And so our our goal is to be there in their moment of decision. [0:48:51, 0:48:52]: And to say [0:48:52, 0:48:58]: Here's what else you could do, here's where else you could eat and encourage them to stay longer and spend more money. [0:48:58, 0:49:08]: And so this will be our full s first full year with our actual van that is built out on the inside as well. If you haven't had a chance to to look at the inside, I [0:49:09, 0:49:12]: Um, would love to bring it and let you see it here at City Hall. [0:49:13, 0:49:33]: So we also have um several different types of advertising that we do. We have seven different um billboard locations. They are digital billboards. We have one that's the lowest one we have is in um just north of Mount Caramel Road, and the tall the one furthest north is um on Interstate 24 in Chattanooga. Um so [0:49:33, 0:49:39]: They're all facing southbound traffic. That's what we found from research is where our highest number of visitors are coming from. [0:49:40, 0:49:51]: And so we have um four different designs that rotate through when we don't have either event or um partner promotions. Um you can see here is an example of of the one for the city of Stockbridge. [0:49:52, 0:50:00]: We also do print and digital ads. Um, we did ads in a variety of different types of publications. Like I said, both print and digital, including [0:50:01, 0:50:12]: Um the Georgia State Parks Guide, uh Southbound magazine, Better Homes and Gardens, um, and then here's some additional um examples of some of those ads that we ran as well. [0:50:13, 0:50:31]: We did a lot of video advertising. Um we have fifteen second and two minute videos, the fifteen second video um for each of our cities. And um we did about one million Stockbridge specific videos. These were served via YouTube, connected TVs, over-the-top TVs. So these are things like [0:50:31, 0:50:40]: uh YouTube ads or in in-stream content if you're reading an article or um things like Hulu that have streaming content that has um [0:50:40, 0:50:49]: video ads. More than 800,000 of them were completed. So people chose to watch all 15 or seconds of it. They didn't skip it. [0:50:49, 0:50:58]: And then that created about seventeen hundred clicks through from those ads directly to um Stockbridge specific itinerary on our site. [0:50:59, 0:51:05]: We also have some very um Stockbridge specific uh display ads. These are called digital display. You see [0:51:05, 0:51:22]: Um copies of photos along with some text that tells visitors what they can expect. Um these um had over two million impressions and seventeen thousand clicks to um to our site, which was all linking directly through to Stockburge specific content. And I do wanna make sure that it's specific that [0:51:22, 0:51:42]: These two million impressions are just stock bridge specific impressions. Every city has a different set of ads. There's about 25 ads for each city. Um, and they run and rotate through depending on what people are looking for based on what's in that city. So that's what you're seeing is stock bridge specific numbers. And that is um also including paid. [0:51:42, 0:51:51]: And um paid search and paid social. So here's an example of some paid search ads. Um, and those had about 50,000 impressions as well. [0:51:52, 0:51:57]: And so they cover a variety of different topics, shopping, history, um, et cetera. [0:51:58, 0:52:12]: We had a very successful year with PR and media. Um, we had about a hundred and seventy-two th um published results, including that equaled about a hundred and sixty-eight million dollars in earned media value. That means that if we'd gone out and bought these um [0:52:13, 0:52:29]: ads in these publications, the the column length or the number of pages would have cost us about a hundred and sixty eight million dollars, but instead it was free because it was editorial content. And that did include an ad or a full several page article in uh Southern Southern Living um magazine. [0:52:31, 0:52:40]: Social media, Leo continues to knock it out of the park with social media. Um you can see here's examples of some Instagram as well as uh Facebook post. [0:52:40, 0:52:51]: And he um generated about three million total impressions on our social content last year, a hundred and about a hundred and fifty thousand um total engagements and grew our following by about two thousand. [0:52:53, 0:53:13]: We also invested in a new um research and some new research called Arrivalist. It's a company that does location based data. Um for those of you who had the opportunity to come to our annual meeting, you got to see some of this presented by um John Packer, who works for Arrivalist. And I just wanted to run through um a couple of quick [0:53:13, 0:53:33]: Overview slides. This data is so deep, so broad, there's so many applications for it. But what it does is it actually tracks visitors that come into the destination via cell phone data. So you can see here that in 2020, so this the data you're looking at is 2022 data. [0:53:33, 0:53:38]: Um we had about one point nine visitors excuse me, one point nine million visitors and this is um [0:53:39, 0:53:44]: taken the data is taken based off of at data, but it is um [0:53:45, 0:53:50]: take it along with the cer the census data and um they [0:53:50, 0:54:08]: level it accordingly so that you're not getting really skewed data. What you'll also notice is that while we had almost two million visitors, only about 32% were spending at least a night. That gives us a lot of opportunity to capture those visitors and turn them into overnight stays and then to make them stay longer as well. [0:54:09, 0:54:13]: And with this we have an idea of where they're coming from, who's staying and how long they're staying. [0:54:14, 0:54:19]: So you with this you can also see I know it's probably small for those um [0:54:19, 0:54:37]: in the audience, but what you can see is that some of the states that are our highest um trafficked states or or points of origin make a lot of sense. Obviously Georgia, we're in Georgia, um, but Florida, Alabama, we touch all of those states. But what might be as surprising is that one point two percent of our visitors in twenty twenty two actually came from New York. [0:54:38, 0:54:38]: Um [0:54:39, 0:54:50]: and from Illinois and Texas. So you see all of those um states that don't have any they don't touch us at all, but um they're generating a high traffic um to our to our county. [0:54:51, 0:55:00]: And then when you look at the origin data more specifically, when you drop when you kinda dig into it, what you'll notice is that um while Georgia um [0:55:01, 0:55:18]: provides the highest number of our visitors. It doesn't provide our highest overnight stays. While New York is what, almost sixth, seventh in terms of the number or the places that people are coming from, it has the highest number of overnights, 2.44 um [0:55:18, 0:55:25]: average of 2.44 overnight. So um it's really good to know that okay if they're coming from New York, they're tending to stay longer. Um [0:55:25, 0:55:26]: And then you'd think [0:55:26, 0:55:42]: That makes logical sense, but you also see that Florida tends to stay longer than Alabama, even though um Alabama and Florida are both touching. So those are just good data st it's just good data points to know um when we're trying to advertise and where we're trying to advertise. [0:55:42, 0:55:51]: And then when you drill down from the state to the city level, you can see that only the top five cities are Georgia cities. You got New York right back there in the mix, noting that [0:55:52, 0:55:57]: Georgia is our sixth excuse me, New York is our sixth most um [0:55:57, 0:56:01]: popular point of origin for our visitors, which actually really surprised me. [0:56:02, 0:56:14]: And then when you look at our share of overnight again, the talked about only three point two percent, but then you see how that breaks down by the number of nights. Most of our visitors are day trippers, um, with about four point three percent being four nights or more. [0:56:15, 0:56:35]: And then when you look at where people are coming from, where they're going and when they're going there, you'll see that hotels that get captures the highest number of our visitors, which makes complete sense. Again, people need a place to stay. We do see a lot of pass-through traffic because we are on I-75. Um, but then you look at when they're visiting: March, July, August, again, um [0:56:35, 0:56:47]: the race happening in March and July, that makes um you can you can see those trends, you can see tournament season, you can see concerts all coming in, you can um as they impact that travel. [0:56:49, 0:56:52]: Also when you look at a year over year, um [0:56:52, 0:57:05]: report you can see how they change based on the month. Okay, well we lost um a little over eight percent in January this year over last year, but in September we gained it. So you can [0:57:06, 0:57:12]: Can see and then you can also look and say what happened in September? Why did we get more people in September than we did the previous year? What happened in January? [0:57:13, 0:57:24]: And why did we not get as many people this year? Was it weather? Was it an event that did or didn't happen? Those are some kinds of things that you can look at when you're making better decisions. Um [0:57:24, 0:57:27]: And so we're not making any decisions in a vacuum. [0:57:27, 0:57:47]: And this is a screen capture from the presentation that John Packer gave at that annual meeting, taking the Stockbridge amphitheaters points of interest specifically. We were able to identify 29 points of interest and draw um basically a grid right around their footprint. And so only people [0:57:47, 0:58:07]: People who enter that footprint get counted as a visitor. And so while Stockbridge had 4,300 visitors that were from out of state, they were spending an average of three and a half hours in the destination. And you could see, you know, maybe what your most impactful concerts were. What looks like whatever was in August. [0:58:07, 0:58:14]: Was your highest. Um you know, you had several concerts in August. Um so maybe that's you can see how that how that um [0:58:15, 0:58:35]: shifted the the the travel trends. You can also see where they're coming from. Most people are coming from Georgia. And so it's an opportunity again for us to look at our partners, our cities, our points of points of interest and attractions, and figure out how we can best work with each of those to better leverage [0:58:35, 0:58:37]: What it is that's making people [0:58:37, 0:58:41]: come and visit and then how we can um [0:58:41, 0:58:42]: Create [0:58:42, 0:58:46]: additional experiences. One of things that John said during that presentation that [0:58:46, 0:58:56]: Um, I think it's important to emphasize is that for every hour that someone travels to get you get to you, you have to have four hours of things for them to do once they get here. So [0:58:56, 0:59:02]: If people are coming from Savannah, say and they've traveled three to four hours, then we need about twelve hours or [0:59:02, 0:59:22]: Yeah, things for them to do. And so putting together itineraries, opportunities, um, packages so that they know what else they can do when they're in destination, it provides a huge opportunity for us to um leverage the people that are already interested in what you're offering, but maybe just don't know what else they could do with an easy proximity. So um [0:59:22, 0:59:42]: Um I'd be happy to go through this data in more detail or dive into anything specific if you have um any questions at a at a later point. But at this point do y'all have any questions? That's just a real quick run through. Well, I got it. Thank you for it, Laura, for that presentation. Uh very it's progress. We're making progress, that's for sure, in this aspect. And I know we're [0:59:42, 0:59:56]: helping helping along that process process and uh for that progress. Um the van, I don't know if you've already done this along with our event staff or even with our uh amphitheater, our consultant is in here as well and our representative from our event staff is here to [0:59:56, 1:00:03]: work out something for the the C V B band to be at those particular city activities or even at the concerts, okay? [1:00:04, 1:00:24]: So I don't know if you've already started at Dialogue. You have? Okay. It will be. They'll be there um on Friday. Oh fantastic. Fantastic. So we've got volunteers and the van and Rochelle all scheduled and all very excited. Good deal. And then New York, I have to admit, I'm I'm not totally surprised personally, because every time I turn around I'm and when I meet new people, they're coming from New York, New Jersey, somewhere up north. [1:00:24, 1:00:29]: like this. So it's fantastic, okay? It's it's good good brief. I appreciate that. mister Blount, go ahead, please. [1:00:29, 1:00:31]: Yeah, thank you. Thank you for the presentation. [1:00:31, 1:00:32]: Um [1:00:33, 1:00:40]: I'm gonna start specifically with the amphitheater piece. Um, how do you calculate the points of interest? [1:00:40, 1:00:46]: Once again, how how do you calculate points of interest? Because you got a number of four thousand three hundred and twenty three. [1:00:46, 1:01:01]: So what they do is they draw a a geofence around the property. Um and so when a phone enters that fence, it's registered as a visitor. [1:01:01, 1:01:11]: if it returns to a location outside of Henry County. Um and if it is a I should have said this at the front end, um it [1:01:11, 1:01:15]: rules out anybody who is a um [1:01:15, 1:01:18]: Commuter. So if you go [1:01:18, 1:01:21]: If you live outside of Henry and you come and you go back. [1:01:22, 1:01:27]: Um then it rules you out. It doesn't count you as a visitor. Um it only [1:01:27, 1:01:31]: counts people who are in the destination for at least two hours. [1:01:31, 1:01:33]: And then um [1:01:34, 1:01:54]: That had they have to they don't I think so if you're stopping and getting gas and then going on down the road, it doesn't count you. Um and so it is all about cell phone um data for app usage. Um and that's why it's normalized for the Census Bureau because the census because you might have different populations that are heavier app users than others or heavier apps of certain apps. So [1:01:54, 1:02:12]: What it is is it's for the amphitheater specifically is that there's a invisible line basically drawn around the amphitheater. And when a cell phone enters that um that zone or somebody opens an app that is one of the apps that is tracked, it gets registered as a hit. [1:02:12, 1:02:15]: I and the reason I ask that because it's um [1:02:16, 1:02:19]: When you look at y this is for the year, is that correct? Correct. [1:02:20, 1:02:34]: But when you look at this for the year, let's just say for instance, twelve concerts on the thirty-four seat amphitheater, that's over forty thousand seats. And so for the year you're telling me that in the in the parameters of the amphitheater, only ten percent or a little less than ten percent of the people [1:02:35, 1:02:43]: got on their cell phones or they did whatever. Is that what you're saying? No, what I'm saying is that only that that percentage are from outside of Henry County. [1:02:44, 1:03:01]: Okay. Outside of Henry County? Correct. If it if they um are residents, then they will not be counted. It only counts people who whose home base is outside of Henry County and that they're not commuters. So less than ten percent of the people that got on their phones was outside of Henry County. And it's it's [1:03:02, 1:03:03]: Not about [1:03:05, 1:03:17]: It is about who gets on their phone, but that's why they normalize it so that it's not about there's there's two sets of numbers. There's real numbers and then there's the normalized data. So you have your real numbers that might say [1:03:18, 1:03:19]: That there's only [1:03:20, 1:03:23]: a hundred or a thousand um [1:03:23, 1:03:26]: visits logged and then you look at um [1:03:28, 1:03:36]: the normalization of it. And I'm not explaining this well. John would have done a better job. But you look at the census data and you say that um [1:03:37, 1:03:55]: in that age group or in that demographic or in that area, this is the percentage of the population. And they um adjust it and they've found that it's within I think ninety something percent accurate in terms of when they normalize it. Again, I'm not doing a fantastic job of describing that, but [1:03:55, 1:04:03]: And that's fine, and I would have to say you're one hundred percent sure'cause I have no idea what you just said. So but but my concern has been [1:04:03, 1:04:13]: How connected are you all? So you're a entity of the chamber or you're connected with the chamber or you're s a separate entity of the chamber? We're uh an entity of the chamber. We're underneath their umbrella. [1:04:13, 1:04:17]: So the the thing that has concerned me even since I've been on this council. [1:04:18, 1:04:19]: Is what [1:04:19, 1:04:25]: The the chamber because you know the city of Stockbridge is the heaviest provider of funds to the chamber. [1:04:27, 1:04:30]: Are you talking about hotel are you talking about hotel mental taxes? [1:04:31, 1:04:33]: I'm talking about local abscessil tax. [1:04:35, 1:04:36]: So the loss tax? Yeah. [1:04:37, 1:04:47]: The chamber's not funded through loss tax. Well the the funding well, I'll be put it this way, the funding that we give the count give to the chamber, the funding that comes from the stock bridge portion. [1:04:48, 1:04:54]: For advertising. You're talking about hotel motel? Hotel motel taxes. You're twenty percent of our budget. [1:04:54, 1:04:55]: You're talking [1:04:55, 1:05:02]: But other cities are gonna be less than that, uh with the Chamber in Henry County. No. Um That's what we were told. [1:05:02, 1:05:15]: So Stockbridge is I have a slide. Stockbridge is twenty percent. Slocus Grove is forty something percent. Are you dealing with that per capita or you're dealing with that for monies uh funding brought in? [1:05:16, 1:05:17]: The amount of money brought in. [1:05:18, 1:05:18]: Okay. [1:05:19, 1:05:32]: So I have it broken down. What I do with um the when I look at it is I put everybody's um totals in and then I take the percentage and so and it's based on the real numbers that are brought in. [1:05:33, 1:05:44]: Well that's fine because I don't wanna I don't want us going down that road. I I just I'm only going off the last information that this council was given. But my concern since I've been on this council when it can when it comes to [1:05:45, 1:06:01]: those things that the chamber are doing for the city because this amphitheater, which is the anchor for this whole area, this whole region of the county, uh has has brought you we have hotels that are going up and we have a lot going on. And when I come into [1:06:02, 1:06:05]: Come into the city. I'm looking at the numbers you're giving. [1:06:05, 1:06:18]: But I'm not seeing this type of advertising. That's what I'm saying. Because when I come in from the south end, I'm as far as a hundred miles out and I'm seeing something for McDonald's. When I come out from the north end, [1:06:18, 1:06:31]: If we just did if we just did a picture of the amphitheater and how to contact for to to understand about shows and that, I would love that. I don't see that. So the numbers you're giving versus what I've seen, that's why I even just as our mayor, have you seen this? [1:06:32, 1:06:34]: I don't see what you're doing. I don't see this. [1:06:35, 1:06:38]: And if something could be given to this council when you're doing it [1:06:39, 1:06:51]: that we can go see ourselves. That would be that would be great because it gives validity to the presentations right now for what you're giving and even the question I asked about this point of a point of interest and all that. [1:06:52, 1:06:59]: I'm not sold on that yet because I guess someone else had to present present it for you. But I would ask that the chamber would look closely to [1:07:00, 1:07:18]: What is anchoring this city, which starts with our amphitheater, which start with what we're doing, which start with the historical piece, and that this chamber look closely on the correct way and how to uh uh with the funding that they're getting to advertise our city and make it more prevalent for people to come to our city. [1:07:19, 1:07:39]: And I will say that if I'm doing my job right, you don't see um our advertising. Billboards, of course, you would see, but it is not aimed at residents. Um residents are a wonderful byproduct of what we do, um, education of residents, but it is about educating people outside. [1:07:39, 1:07:57]: of Henry to get them to visit Henry. So all of our digital ads, the video ads, all those things that I was talking about, they are targeted to cities outside the Georgia cities and cities outside of the state that we have already seen a specific tendency to [1:07:58, 1:08:18]: Um either through research or through our web data that have already showed a propensity to or for interest for City of Stockbridge. Every city's advertising is different. So we'll have Stockbridge is targeted to different cities than City of Locust Grove because your visitors are not the same. They're not interested in the same thing and they're not the same people. So [1:08:18, 1:08:38]: So we do target it differently, but you are not going to see, you're not gonna go on Roku or on Hulu and see one of your ads because you're within the city limits. You're not in Little Rock, you're not in Birmingham or wherever else the cities are being. [1:08:38, 1:08:58]: And I've yet to talk to one single person at anything that was for people from out of town and say they saw this online or they saw it on wherever. They say they saw it on Facebook, they saw it on next door, or they heard somebody tell them. That's has been from my experience. I have no idea I can only speak for John Blount. And one of the things I would ask that you all would do. [1:08:59, 1:09:01]: is to get with the people [1:09:01, 1:09:15]: of the city of Stockbridge that are in those positions to tell you the the the talking points that we would like seeing and how we would like those be presented because if I won't see it, how can I believe it? Only thing I believe in that I don't see is God himself. [1:09:16, 1:09:18]: And so I need to so if I don't see evidence of something. [1:09:19, 1:09:30]: How could I you know what exactly would you like to see? I mean, because I mean I'm showing you screen captures of actual ads that are are running or have run. Um [1:09:30, 1:09:34]: What but when you tell me I'm sorry to cut you off because you asked the question, I don't want to go stupid. [1:09:34, 1:09:46]: When you tell me the point of interest is that four thousand, I think it's three hundred and twenty-three, twenty-two or something like that. When you tell me that that's that's that's less than ten percent of a concert year. [1:09:47, 1:09:55]: And when you tell me that, and then I don't see those type of people at our concerts, because the parameters that you gave them, I'm saying I don't see what you're telling me. [1:09:55, 1:09:58]: That's all I'm saying. I don't I don't see what you're saying. [1:10:00, 1:10:04]: I don't experience that. Maybe my other council members do and that's fine, but I don't. [1:10:05, 1:10:12]: And then then when I ask about it, it's not really being explained to a point to make it clear enough to me on what because when you say you draw a line, I don't see it. [1:10:12, 1:10:20]: I'm I'm sorry, can you you don't you don't see what. I'm so I know that that my explanation for the data wasn't the best. [1:10:21, 1:10:25]: One of the greatest things that you all can do that we can see [1:10:25, 1:10:27]: It's to understand your efforts. [1:10:28, 1:10:31]: If I don't understand your efforts without results. [1:10:31, 1:10:33]: Then I question the efforts. [1:10:34, 1:10:41]: So if I don't understand your elpers, what I just asked and you and I didn't really understand what you were saying, then how can I judge the results? [1:10:41, 1:10:45]: Because if you give it all you got and then we don't have any results, it's not your fault. [1:10:47, 1:10:52]: You you see what I'm saying? So at this point, if I don't see your efforts, like you say, I don't I won't see it. [1:10:52, 1:10:56]: Then then I'm at a point where what what else do I have to have to go off for? [1:10:57, 1:11:03]: And I'm more than willing to come and present or do anything that I can. [1:11:04, 1:11:05]: I can't [1:11:09, 1:11:22]: Because of the way our ads are targeted, I can't the digital ads, I can't make sure you see those in the moment. I can certainly bring you copies of our print ads. I can bring you I can email you copies of all of the [1:11:22, 1:11:38]: articles that have been written about the city of Stockbridge by writers that we've brought in. I mean I certainly can do those things. Uh uh so I won't so I won't prolong time. I'm Councilman John Blount. I'll give you one of my cars so somebody give you my car. And when you do those ads, say you call me and say you need to check this ad out. Okay. [1:11:39, 1:11:49]: And I'll be all right. And I do have copies of every ad we've ever done. So I can send you copies of um the magazines or pictures from the magazines. Um [1:11:50, 1:12:08]: I thank you. Council, any other qu Mr. Mr. Alexander, go ahead, please. Yeah, I think I had this conversation and I share some of the um concerns that Mr. Blount was registering. This is why I would like uh Mr. Gardiner, you come to the podium and Mr. Young, will you come to the podium? [1:12:20, 1:12:40]: One of the questions that I asked uh Miss Lucer before we got started was, you know, what are we doing with the billboards and um what's gonna happen? What are we do we currently have any show promos running on their billboards right now? The answer was no. For Friday night show. The answer was [1:12:40, 1:13:00]: Was no. And the answer for for from their end, I'm not talking about from your end, I'm talking about from the C uh the Convention and Visitors Bureau angle. They have billboards. I was under the assumption, as I'm sure the council members were, that we're operating just like we were last year, that we're gonna duplicate. [1:13:00, 1:13:20]: Show advertisements on the count on the CVB boards just like they did last year. Now, I asked Miss Luca, did she was she familiar with you, Mr. Young? She said no, she was not familiar with you, and that that uh she had consulted with several members. I told her about [1:13:20, 1:13:40]: The professional hits that you had on V103, KISS 104, the digital video promotion that you had, and they don't have any of that. There's a breakdown between what you're doing, which is on a class A top level, that information is not getting to them. We need to make that connection between. [1:13:40, 1:14:00]: You, her, and the staff members, so we can get that grade A advertising information to them. Because if they have billboards that are available for us to use and we got a show on Friday night and they're not being used, we're missing that because that's part of this service that we pay for. [1:14:00, 1:14:20]: But right now we're not getting that. And um I think it is and I asked the question, well, who was the contact with the city? I do there were several contacts with the city, but there needs to be one to generate and to do exactly what Mr. Blount is saying, what I'm saying, which is communicate what we want specifically. [1:14:20, 1:14:40]: In terms of shows that we want promoted and events that we want promoted, not just as you say, not just in this here in the area, but in the billboards that you have. Certainly, if the majority of the traffic is coming from inside the these, uh inside the area, we certainly want those. [1:14:40, 1:14:44]: People at Mount at the Mount Carmel bored to drive by it and see it. [1:14:45, 1:14:56]: So if we had the Isley Brothers concert on the s the Carmel Mount Carmel board, it would be seen inside of Henry County. If we had it on I seventy five, it would be seen inside of that. [1:14:57, 1:15:17]: So I'm asking that we make that connection so that we're able to cross-promote. And I think we did as we talked about the data that we that in that excellent presentation that we received at Merrill Manders Center. We talked about extended stays, and I think it was four hours not necessary. [1:15:17, 1:15:37]: I think it was four hours. And then that if they were in this in the city four hours, then they would be more apt to book a hotel stay. And based on that, I had sent you an email in uh some of the counterparts over at Panola Mountain, and so to see whether or not we could tag. [1:15:37, 1:15:40]: [4540.5, 4542.4]: When someone would come to the site [1:15:42, 1:15:44]: The suggestion would be put forward. [1:15:45, 1:16:05]: Yeah, okay, you could excuse me, you could go to Panola Mountain, you could go to Yule Forest, you could go to Atlanta Motor Speedway, or you could go to the Stockbridge Amphitheater so we could get that greater than four hours and a hotel stay uh in in the area uh as well. Those are the cross promotion things. There was some responses. [1:16:05, 1:16:25]: On that, and we need to get involved in that and partnering with other organizations. But firstly, I would like for Mr. Young to make the connection with if it's okay with you, Mr. Gardner, to make the connection with the CVB so we can get the advertising that we're using. [1:16:25, 1:16:45]: using on their platforms and we can take advantage of those with the specific information we want provided, not necessarily because right now it seemed as though they were making the decision, but we weren't actually they weren't exactly sure what we wanted out of that uh particular process. But it would be a cleaner look especially for [1:16:44, 1:16:49]: for the amphitheater, uh for the concert that we're having and maybe we can [1:16:50, 1:17:10]: Change that today and get them some information that they need to use those billboards a hundred miles out, two hundred miles out. Surely somebody in South Carolina might want to bring their mother to the Maxwell concert or somebody in New York. Those are the kind of things that we need to see on those boards and on those advertisements. [1:17:09, 1:17:16]: that will specifically bring people uh to Stockbridge. Do you is uh was that clear or was that [1:17:17, 1:17:37]: And I just wanna state that you do have um money set aside for city advertising that you can buy billboards in South Carolina and we still pay for them. Um, but you get to select where they are and what messages go on them. Um, but that is up to the council as a whole um and whoever to be that one. [1:17:37, 1:17:47]: point of contact um to let me know who and how that money needs to be spent. And then so that's one avenue. And then you also have [1:17:47, 1:17:52]: the boards that you're speaking of. We do have seven and we can um [1:17:52, 1:18:12]: We have a do have a schedule of people who have already are already committed to spots on the board. And so if you have a concert that you want promoted, then you can say, Hey, do you have a spot? And I say, I do, but only until these days or only for this month. Or not on this board, but we do on this board. I would be happy. [1:18:12, 1:18:30]: Happy to do that. You just just let us know. Um, and we did connect this afternoon for the first time. Um, so I appreciate that connection. So your staff is doing a fantastic job of making the connections. It's just making sure that we are connecting with the right people on the right projects. Um, because I do know that [1:18:30, 1:18:50]: um, you know, the amphitheaters handled separately than maybe the conference center or the main street. And so we are connected to all of those people trying to make sure that we're plugged into all the different aspects of the city because we know that it's so multifaceted. It's it's so many different aspects. So we would love to work with you to know what your concert series [1:18:50, 1:18:56]: what your priorities are, what the art is. We would love to promote those on our social channels as well. [1:18:56, 1:19:15]: um and also obviously on our billboards so and we appreciate working with uh Mr. Young too on making sure our welcome center can be at the property um because we we want to work with you. That's what we're here to do. Um and we want to make sure that you understand what we're doing and that you um feel comfortable with it. Um [1:19:16, 1:19:17]: But um [1:19:18, 1:19:29]: Whatever that looks like. I mean I'm here. I'm here. I'm always available. I'm always here. I can provide my cars, my email. Um, I know Miss Holliday has my my email as well, so [1:19:29, 1:19:32]: Yes, and and and as you say it. [1:19:32, 1:19:36]: You just said the key thing. You're waiting on those decisions to be made. [1:19:37, 1:19:38]: On our side. [1:19:39, 1:19:59]: To tell you what we need to do with those funds if we wanted to use those that advertisement outside of the city. You're waiting on us to tell you what we want to do with the seven boards that we have access to on the specific things that we want, if we want these things done. That's what I'm talking about. [1:19:59, 1:20:19]: I'm talking about we need to do what's necessary to get the information to you on our side so that we is there's no you're not unclear on what needs to be on what we want and that connection is made. That's what I'm talking about and that's what I'm asking Mr. Gardner [1:20:19, 1:20:39]: To do through the staff is to make sure that there aren't any ambiguities. They know exactly what we want to see and what uh we want to see coming forward. The one last question is on this graph that you have here, uh we were told that Stockbridge was contributing uh certainly a large amount. Is this just hotel or motel? [1:20:39, 1:20:51]: tax or what is this rhythm uh the only thing I'm concerned about is hotel motel taxes. Okay, so this graph represents the hotel motel tax correct that is coming from the various entities uh to you all. [1:20:52, 1:21:12]: Good. I'm looking at the hotels. I mean, how many hotels are in Locust Grove? I mean A lot. Maybe fifteen. Yeah. Okay. There's tons of hotels. In the city limits. In the city limits. They're all within half a mile from the interstate. Yeah. They're and they're they've built four in the last two years, maybe. [1:21:12, 1:21:25]: Okay. Mm-hmm. Okay. So our numbers should be certainly should be coming up with the annexation and Holiday Inn coming in and several others coming in as well. So those numbers should be. I mean with the holida yeah, the Holiday Inn's uh [1:21:26, 1:21:31]: It's a great property. Um at the Holiday Inn, you get the Holiday Inn, the microtel no, that one already is yours. [1:21:32, 1:21:36]: Uh, red roof and the travel lodge. I think you get three additional hotels coming in. [1:21:37, 1:21:57]: Right, right there in in that particular session. So those that that's certainly bump our numbers up. But I just wanted to so I certainly understand what Mr. Blount was saying, and that is it. Those seven boards, we want to use them because we should have access to them. We just need to get the information to you. And and I wanna be clear too. I know that I know that it's scripted and they're shared. [1:21:57, 1:22:01]: Yeah. But if we had leaned forward earlier, we would already be there now, right? [1:22:02, 1:22:08]: on the ones that aren't already spoken for because we have agreements, yeah. So thank you. Ms. Campway, please. [1:22:09, 1:22:29]: Okay, thank you, Mayor. Um before I ask my question, I wanted to um one commend the CVB board on what they do locally. I can attest to that personally, um, their reach out to small businesses. And before that, I was a little apprehensive about what exactly the CVV [1:22:29, 1:22:38]: VB board did. Um, but when you're hands-on and you have experience with seeing that, they offer a lot of trainings and they really, really try to promote. [1:22:39, 1:22:45]: all of the businesses that are within w within your city or that are part of the chamber [1:22:45, 1:22:47]: Um and they also [1:22:48, 1:22:50]: Um work really hard. [1:22:51, 1:23:11]: At trying to get the word out outside of Henry County about going to those places. So I do want to commend you for that. I did have a question in regards to the seven billboards: what's the process of getting on those boards? What is how can we become a priority? Or how do you go about picking and choosing? [1:23:11, 1:23:19]: choosing who gets to be on those boards? So we have um the seven and um they are [1:23:20, 1:23:40]: The first priority is we have visitors guide, um, the advertisers in our guide, and the advertisers get first pick, basically. It's part of their package. Um and they get, depending on whether they're two they have whether they have full page or half page, they get either two or one month, and then they get to go through and pick which board. [1:23:40, 1:23:44]: Um and then after that it's um there's a [1:23:44, 1:23:46]: A request form. [1:23:46, 1:24:05]: that that goes through and um you can select say I'd like you know this board in this month. And can you give me the amount of advertisers that you have? You estimate maybe an advertisers you guide? Um I think we have seventeen total advertisers, maybe fifteen total advertisers. Um not all of those are full or [1:24:06, 1:24:26]: Not full or half. So um yeah. And and when they have when uh so not all of them are full or half. There's about 17 and out of the seven billboards, are they all electronic and rotate? Yes. And we can run like so right now we don't have um partners running right now. We just have our um city building. [1:24:25, 1:24:30]: words running and those run we have all four of our arts that rotate through. [1:24:30, 1:24:40]: Okay. So the city's rotating through um as part of our our overall campaign. So although it's not the Isley Brothers or the concert series, Scott Bridge is still being promoted on a b on seven billboards. [1:24:40, 1:24:47]: So in regards to that, you had mentioned that we have money set aside that we could utilize for [1:24:47, 1:24:48]: Um a billboard. [1:24:49, 1:24:56]: What is that money set of but do you guys have that money or you guys send it over to Stockbridge or how does that work and [1:24:57, 1:25:03]: Is that money that what is that money allocated for? It is allocated to promote the city of Stockbridge in [1:25:04, 1:25:24]: the way that the city chooses. This is money that you can use to promote festivals. It has to be tourism specific. Um and it c but it can be used with your branding. So all the stuff that we do has our branding, but this money is set aside for your branding, your ads, whatever. Um and um because the one thing with [1:25:24, 1:25:30]: the city ads that we excuse me, the billboards that we do um when you use our set our our [1:25:30, 1:25:38]: When you use our seven billboards is you do have to allocate a fourth of the board with our logo. Um, if you use your ad, um [1:25:39, 1:25:45]: If you do the city the city funds, then they're completely yours. You can do it however you want, the whatever the art looks like. [1:25:46, 1:26:04]: Um in the past it's been used for Bridge Fest radio advertising or um holiday festival radio advertising. And that is you basically as a city contract with that entity, whatever that entity is that you want, and then we pay those invoices directly. By law we're not allowed to give you money back. [1:26:04, 1:26:19]: Um, but um that sends up all sorts of red flags for the Department of Affair or Department of Community Affairs. But basically y'all have the contracts, the rate the invoices come directly to us, we pay those invoices directly up to the amount that um [1:26:20, 1:26:40]: um that you have allocated. Okay. And so there there but there's a percentage of of hotel motel tax that comes directly to the city of Stockbridge, correct? Correct. So this is in addition to the correct. All right. And so uh can you uh uh well you just mentioned some of the things that we've spent money on before in the past. I know that we um [1:26:39, 1:26:59]: for a fact have. I remember food trucks in particular when I when I first started them. Um we reached out to CBB and used it for some of the billboards that we wanted directly. So I do I remember that but um I was just curious and I must shift gears a little [1:26:59, 1:27:19]: bit because I know we're all focused on the amphitheater, but there's so much more that Stockbridge could have to offer and can offer. And one of those things is um and I believe it's in your field uh the movie industry um and being on the registry has [1:27:19, 1:27:39]: Has that by chance been updated to at least present maybe the Stockbridge Amphitheater, some of our recruit trails, and some of the prettier shots, I mean some of some nice shots and locations here in Stockbridge? I haven't updated it recently, but we certainly can. You can update that that eventually [1:27:39, 1:27:55]: They've changed the system and I think that other people can update it now. You can add your own listings, those kinds of things now. Um, so it doesn't all fall to the camera ready liaison to do it. But um you can we can certainly do that. We can update those. Um and I get calls [1:27:56, 1:28:16]: Several a week for different places. So right now my my role is is largely a clearinghouse, trying to make sure that I'm getting to the right person. But um I do and I I get often get calls that say, I need X. Um and rarely is it the pretty stuff, actually. It's usually I need a dirt road or a house that's falling down. [1:28:16, 1:28:36]: down but um there is certainly I've I have gotten at least three calls about the amphitheater. Um so those we are getting calls we are directing them to the appropriate places um and that's that is what I do and what my job is because I'm not a permitting agency. Y'all are the permitting agency so it's trying to make sure that those interest [1:28:36, 1:28:43]: interested parties get to the interested people um and they can connect and but having the better photo desk definitely works. [1:28:43, 1:28:52]: Mm-hmm. Thank you. And any photos that anybody has, wants, updates, let me know. We can get that happened. Mr. Thomas, please go ahead. Thank you, Mayor. [1:28:53, 1:29:01]: Ms. Luca, thank you again. Uh, I was with you at the at the Murrmanners. Um, and I just want to come in counsel. [1:29:01, 1:29:04]: I I think this dialogue is good. [1:29:04, 1:29:12]: uh getting a better understanding, uh becoming a team, to work together. I I think all of this is good. [1:29:12, 1:29:13]: But [1:29:13, 1:29:17]: Where I wanna go with this and and as a uh city. [1:29:17, 1:29:25]: And I know um Mrs. Gantt mentioned some of the things, uh Councilman Alexander mentioned some things. [1:29:25, 1:29:27]: But I think we as a city [1:29:28, 1:29:30]: We have to give travelers. [1:29:31, 1:29:32]: A reason [1:29:33, 1:29:38]: to stop in Stockbridge. Folks traveling up and down our seventy five or what have you. [1:29:39, 1:29:41]: It's incumbent upon us. [1:29:41, 1:29:55]: to give them that reason. So we're talking tourism and I think we're headed in the right direction. I think we're doing some of those things, but I don't want to get too deep and and I appreciate [1:29:55, 1:30:07]: uh uh the concerns of the council and they are sharing those concerns with you and hopefully you are going to address some of those. But I think it still comes back to the city of Stockbridge. [1:30:08, 1:30:24]: offering, creating Stark Bridge as a designation where people want to come. If you're traveling, say if you coming up from Florida, you going to wherever, and you'll say, well, okay, let's stop over in Stark Bridge because [1:30:25, 1:30:34]: And we have to offer more than the amphitheater, you see. And so and I and and again I think we are headed in the right direction. [1:30:35, 1:30:38]: But I don't want us to get too bent off into [1:30:39, 1:30:48]: You know, what what you're doing, which I think is still valid. I think the concerns that are being raised, they are valid concerns, and hopefully you're going to address those. [1:30:48, 1:30:49]: But again. [1:30:50, 1:31:00]: We as a municipality and our staff, Economic Development, Main Street, uh, all of us, I think we have to give folks [1:31:01, 1:31:21]: A little bit more as to a reason why you want to come and spend a couple of nights in Stockbridge, more than the amphitheater. So I just wanted to just share that. And I think Council, you know, we're on board with that, but we just have to dig a little deeper and we have to produce a little bit more to create Stockbridge. [1:31:21, 1:31:35]: that place. So when folks leave home and whether they going north or south, hey, let's stop in Stockbridge because and and we got to give them that because so we have to market that. But if we don't have anything [1:31:35, 1:31:37]: Why should anybody want to stop? [1:31:38, 1:31:44]: And I'll say that your stock bridge fifteen second video, um, everybody I've ever showed it to says [1:31:44, 1:31:53]: It makes me want to go to Startbridge. You have things. You really do. And I think it's about packaging. Um and about packaging, um packaging, yes. Packaging it to the right people. [1:31:53, 1:32:03]: Yes, yes. Well, thank you again for coming. Uh Mayor Ford, I'm gonna yield and hopefully uh we can move on to the next adjustment. Any other comments from the council? [1:32:03, 1:32:23]: Thank you. If not, if not, thank you. Lord, appreciate the presentation. Thank you very much. Thank you all, Council. Okay. Okay, good deal. Now we'll move on to the Southern Crescent Technical College, that presentation. And what we have, uh Mr. Ingram, come forward, please. And with the uh Southern Crescent uh Technical College, we have Dr. Clark and Dr. Johns. [1:32:23, 1:32:33]: I know that um uh Harold is here for any things that may uh may have to deal with the amphitheater self, he's is in that aspect. And of course uh the talking about the actual [1:32:33, 1:32:53]: uh contract itself and I know that uh Mr. Washington has been involved with the attorneys from the Southern Crescent as well in reference to this particular event. Go ahead, Canyon, please. Um thank you, Mayor and Council. Uh on behalf of the event staff, we've been working with Southern Crescent since about last September. [1:32:53, 1:33:00]: uh in coordinating uh their graduation which is May ninth of this year. [1:33:00, 1:33:06]: We've gone back and forth with the attorneys, uh, finding a the contract itself. [1:33:07, 1:33:19]: uh we had to put that together during this process. And we finally got that together. Today we have a uh clean signed contract uh for your approval. [1:33:20, 1:33:33]: Could you explain in reference to the uh the nonprofit aspect and all the things that the the the uh the co colleges have to do in reference to the rental process? So do you understand that? Uh the [1:33:34, 1:33:43]: In the contract, it states that we are giving nonprofits twenty-five hundred dollar rental status. Uh and that [1:33:43, 1:33:47]: We did not have a standard operating procedure. [1:33:48, 1:34:08]: other than the twenty five hundred dollars, but there are several other things that come into play. Uh the the maintenance, the police, the uh security, all the parking, all aspects which have come to now$16,000, a little over north of$16,000. [1:34:08, 1:34:10]: [5651.1, 5654.3]: So when we st when they started looking at [1:34:14, 1:34:17]: twenty five hundred dollars, that's just for the shell. [1:34:17, 1:34:23]: And and so we've come to this place now and provided help them provide the the uh [1:34:24, 1:34:42]: uh vendors that they needed to secure this. And that's where we are at this point. And counselor in front of you you have you should have a document that indicates uh the all the services that they will be uh paying for to those vendors and those vendors uh are vendors that are very familiar with operation [1:34:43, 1:35:03]: Of the amphitheater because of the same vendors we use. There's no money coming from the city for this support of this. This is something that has been worked out with the staff and with the college and their leadership in reference to uh uh renting of the facility. And and I and I'm gonna go online and say the fact that I [1:35:03, 1:35:23]: I I can't recall the actual concerts, but if I understand right, both doctors that are here, Dr. Clark and Dr. Johns, attended a concert sometime last year and enjoyed themselves and said, Well won't this be a great uh great place to have a uh a commencement service?'Cause I think they've outgrown where they have been uh d having in the past. And it's [1:35:23, 1:35:43]: something that they're looking forward to, something I would think that hopefully we're looking forward to in reference to uh having a a a routine annual type of event. And if I understand correctly, uh they expect to have roughly 3,000 people to attend this particular event, this commencement service. And so it's it's it's a great thing. Stand by please of Mr. [1:35:42, 1:35:58]: Mr. uh Alexander caught my attention first, sir. Go ahead, sir. Yes, sir. Might we just hear from them real quick? Yep, that's fine. They're they're here. Before we do that, I I would like on page three folks to remove clause number K. A K. Eight K what's AK? It has nothing to do with us. [1:35:59, 1:35:59]: Thank you. [1:36:00, 1:36:02]: Eight K. What is it? [1:36:04, 1:36:06]: Eight K. That's all. [1:36:06, 1:36:08]: It's parking. [1:36:10, 1:36:11]: Yeah. [1:36:12, 1:36:13]: Yes, in the contract. [1:36:13, 1:36:16]: Eight case is parking at elementary school. Is that what you're talking about? Right. [1:36:16, 1:36:18]: We don't own the elementary school. [1:36:18, 1:36:38]: They have uh they have contacted the school themselves, the the the uh stock uh Henry County Board of Education uh for that. And I I agree, that's fine. Um that's what they're supposed to do, but we can't contract with put that in our contract agreement. It has nothing to do with us. No, you so asking for that to be removed. [1:36:39, 1:36:43]: Okay. Stand by one please. Uh mister Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. [1:36:44, 1:36:44]: Um [1:36:47, 1:37:06]: The amphitheater rental has been going on for a couple of years, but I I I just wanna say to Southern Crescent and and any other organization that really wanna rent the the amphitheater. [1:37:07, 1:37:15]: Going back some years when and I was on this council when we discussed uh building the amphitheater. [1:37:16, 1:37:18]: And the reason for building this amphitheater. [1:37:19, 1:37:20]: And we talked about [1:37:21, 1:37:23]: а ей фасиліті [1:37:24, 1:37:24]: that [1:37:25, 1:37:26]: Вот іпакт [1:37:27, 1:37:32]: the quality of life for our citizens as far as entertainment. [1:37:33, 1:37:36]: Also number two, we talked about [1:37:36, 1:37:37]: Heaven. [1:37:38, 1:37:39]: uh an economic [1:37:40, 1:37:44]: impact in our downtown. And and I'm saying this to say [1:37:45, 1:37:46]: Іновім [1:37:47, 1:37:50]: Southern Crescent and any organization. [1:37:50, 1:38:05]: that want to come and flood downtown. That's what we want. We want people in our downtown. So make no mistake that, you know, we're pushing back on anybody coming. That's what we want. [1:38:06, 1:38:07]: But [1:38:07, 1:38:21]: The issue that I have, and I've raised this issue for more than two years now, and I think any organization, whether it's the college, fraternities, sororities, churches, schools, even in your home. [1:38:22, 1:38:35]: There are rules and regulations, there are policies and procedures that has to be in place before you can roll this out. And and that's my sticking point with this. [1:38:36, 1:38:38]: Not only with Southern Crescent. [1:38:39, 1:38:56]: But with any organization, and and I think it's it's a failure on our part because we did not get it together. And and and I think we're still sorta going around, but I from what I'm hearing and what the mayor just read, I think we're there now. [1:38:57, 1:39:06]: But I just wanted to say this and and you know we we move to take the policy off the agenda because it is it's not ready. [1:39:07, 1:39:14]: But again, I just want everybody to understand, and I believe everyone does understand, that you have to have [1:39:14, 1:39:23]: policies and procedures in place in order to roll this out properly. Because what you do for one [1:39:24, 1:39:26]: You have to do for all. [1:39:26, 1:39:37]: And so it was so fragmented, so chaotic, and that's the problem that I have. And I don't see no reason why it should have been that way. [1:39:38, 1:39:45]: You know, we're wrong folks, we're educated folks, and so why couldn't and and look in Southern Crescent. [1:39:46, 1:39:54]: This is not y'all's fault, period. Any churches, anybody, it is not y'all's fault why this policy is not in place. [1:39:55, 1:39:56]: It it is on us. [1:39:57, 1:40:17]: And I just have a problem because we did not get it done. And now we're still trying to patch and mismatch and all of that when it just wasn't necessary for us to do. So I just want everyone to say that I'm not against anyone in coming downtown. The more the merit. [1:40:17, 1:40:32]: Mary and Casim Alexander, he is the preacher for this. He knows that we want people to come into downtown. We want to have shops and restaurants and in it, because we want folks to come in and hey, spend your money in downtown. That's what we want. [1:40:33, 1:40:34]: But again [1:40:35, 1:40:37]: It is our responsibility to [1:40:38, 1:40:45]: To put the policies and the procedures in place so we can do just that. [1:40:45, 1:40:49]: En and I'm just having a problem in understanding. [1:40:50, 1:40:51]: Why? [1:40:51, 1:40:53]: We haven't been able to do this because [1:40:54, 1:40:56]: We've been talking about this for two years now. [1:40:57, 1:41:00]: And it's still fragmented. [1:41:00, 1:41:12]: So I'm hoping and and I think that's why it was pulled off because we know it's not ready, but hopefully we can go forward and allow Southern Crescent to come in. [1:41:12, 1:41:16]: But I just want everyone to know that we are not against anyone. [1:41:17, 1:41:21]: and come and participate in and partner, that's what we want. [1:41:21, 1:41:35]: But we have to put some things in place, policies and procedures. I don't, you know, I know if you're a member of any organization, you have bylaws, you have policies, you have procedures. So y'all know exactly what I'm talking about. [1:41:35, 1:41:44]: But there are some things that just were not in place. And so over the last three, four, five days, some things have become clearer. [1:41:45, 1:41:46]: Clear roar. [1:41:46, 1:41:50]: And and I think we can go forward. But just understand that [1:41:52, 1:41:52]: Yeah, if [1:41:53, 1:42:03]: And I I'm just gonna say it it was our fault that we did not get together. So Southern Crescent, it has nothing to do with you as far as you you did something wrong. You did not. [1:42:04, 1:42:12]: You know, you came and you wanted to do this. And again, you know, the failure's on us. So I'm just saying council, staff. [1:42:13, 1:42:14]: Let's get it together. [1:42:15, 1:42:35]: Let's get it together so we can put we can roll out the welcome map to all of these organizations and churches and schools or what have you to come in and be a partner with us in our great city of Stockbridge. And that's mayor that's basically all I want to say. So let's let's just do a better job in doing it. All right, good deal. Thank you. [1:42:35, 1:42:38]: Johns, Dr. uh John's and Dr. Clark. Could you come forward please? [1:42:39, 1:42:40]: Uh yeah, go ahead, sir. [1:42:42, 1:42:44]: Mr. Ingram, real quick on the um [1:42:45, 1:43:00]: 'Cause I haven't had a chance to look it all over. Um the the amounts on the rentals, all of those different fees, uh even the one for for for profit, those are non concert fees, right? [1:43:00, 1:43:13]: Those are yes. All of those are non-construct fees. Those are yes, they're nonprofit fees. But they have to pay the regular price for any vendor for the services that they need to operate. [1:43:13, 1:43:16]: No, I I I I get that, but I just wanna make sure [1:43:16, 1:43:20]: That the the fee uh scale here that I have. [1:43:20, 1:43:27]: Yes, sir. It is a non profit profit. It is a non profit. And the uh commercial for profit event. All of these are non profit [1:43:28, 1:43:29]: Concert. [1:43:30, 1:43:35]: The the last one on that line is the ten thousand dollars is it is for profit. [1:43:36, 1:43:43]: But the twenty five hundred dollars. Yes. This is true. [1:43:44, 1:43:48]: competitive within our sales. I want to make sure none of these There's no dollars exchanged. [1:43:49, 1:44:01]: on this event. So that basic price for the non profit price is that. They're not looking to make any money, they're not charging people to come. That's not what it's I I get that I I me I'll sorry. Ms. Kenway, I get that. [1:44:03, 1:44:04]: Follow me. What I'm saying is [1:44:05, 1:44:09]: Let's go all the way down to the commercial slash for property vent. Yes, sir. [1:44:10, 1:44:15]: Can someone come with that amount and and do a concert at the at the amphitheater? [1:44:18, 1:44:20]: Uh for the for profit? Yeah. [1:44:21, 1:44:23]: Yes, sir. Then I'm not forward. [1:44:23, 1:44:28]: No what is that amount? I'm not sure. [1:44:29, 1:44:30]: Respectfully, no, sir. [1:44:30, 1:44:37]: That was a rule that you guys asked us to put in place so we do not rent the facility out to anyone who wants to have a concert. [1:44:37, 1:44:56]: In competition with the city. That was a rule put in last year. But where is that in the it's in the policy document that we adopted in June of last year. We amended it and then we came back and we wanted to make further amendments to it. It's in this document. Ms. Garner, what I'm saying is Let me clarify something. If if that's our policy. [1:44:58, 1:45:01]: With all due respect, I believe that you all know that's our policy. [1:45:02, 1:45:06]: I think that all literature all liter contractual literature that we put out, even this to us. [1:45:07, 1:45:12]: Everything should be clear that that none of these none of these. [1:45:12, 1:45:15]: Or for concert purposes. [1:45:15, 1:45:21]: None of these rentals. Okay. So under the policy that we adopted in June of last year. [1:45:22, 1:45:34]: You have education and a non profit. They pay a flat fee of twenty five hundred and then any associated cost as it relates to the use of the amphitheater, that's what adds up to the sixteen thousand that they're being charged. [1:45:34, 1:45:36]: So if they have to pay for parking, that's in there. [1:45:37, 1:45:39]: If they have to pay for for fire input that's in there. [1:45:40, 1:45:49]: They have to pay for garbage pickup, that's in there. For a janitorial service, that's in there. That's what adds up to the sixteen thousand dollars. Well let me say this, because when you buy cigarettes [1:45:49, 1:45:57]: No matter what brand or what kind, no matter how many runs it calls, they got the surgeon general got a n something down there saying, you know, it's called cancer. [1:45:58, 1:46:01]: How about every time we put something out about these fees? [1:46:01, 1:46:19]: That we put something in there, the caveat in it as for non com non construct purposes or whatever we need to put on everything that we put out when it comes to this. I just don't want any misunderstanding or any misinformation going out, if you if you wouldn't mind. So d in in the policy document, the amendment we made. [1:46:20, 1:46:21]: Under each section in here. [1:46:22, 1:46:32]: We put in there civic or educational events, concerts under this section shall only be allowed under partnership agreement approved by city council. [1:46:32, 1:46:42]: Under non-profit benefit events, we have the same language. Concert under this section shall only be allowed under a partnership agreement approved by city council. [1:46:43, 1:46:46]: Under commercial and for profit events. [1:46:46, 1:46:50]: I I sorry to interrupt, I'll just for for sake of time. [1:46:50, 1:46:55]: Would there be a problem with putting that on any of these? If it is, then we'll just deal with that. [1:46:55, 1:47:00]: Would there be a problem w if we do a contract with anybody, would there be a problem putting it on here? [1:47:01, 1:47:12]: That all if you're gonna if you're gonna list all the fees, then we gotta say what the purpose of for anybody that gets this. If somebody got this and looked at it, oh wow, pro for for profit. [1:47:13, 1:47:15]: I can do for profit for ten thousand dollars. [1:47:15, 1:47:16]: We know [1:47:18, 1:47:19]: But they but nobody else would know. [1:47:20, 1:47:22]: The same arguments he has. [1:47:23, 1:47:30]: Ma May c can I just clarify a second? Yeah, so go ahead, uh go ahead, Mr. Thomas. I and I I appreciate uh Councilman Blount's concern. [1:47:32, 1:47:34]: But again [1:47:34, 1:47:38]: The question went out about this rental policy. [1:47:39, 1:47:45]: And to my knowledge, I was the only one that responded and gave some suggestions. [1:47:45, 1:47:47]: Even at retreat. [1:47:47, 1:47:50]: Um we tried to get into this. [1:47:51, 1:47:53]: I don't want Southern Crescent. [1:47:54, 1:47:57]: To get caught up in in our shortcomings. [1:47:58, 1:48:00]: Um and I think this is why [1:48:00, 1:48:02]: We delayed [1:48:02, 1:48:03]: approved [1:48:03, 1:48:05]: the rental policy because [1:48:05, 1:48:07]: It's obvious now. [1:48:08, 1:48:10]: That it is not ready. [1:48:10, 1:48:12]: So, but how can we [1:48:13, 1:48:18]: In order for Southern Crescent to meet their May Ninth deadline. [1:48:18, 1:48:20]: How can we [1:48:21, 1:48:31]: fix it somewhat so they can go far which still a double edged sword because what you do for them [1:48:31, 1:48:41]: You may have to do it for others. And just let me say about the policy, um, uh Mr. Gardner. In that policy, it talks about [1:48:41, 1:48:43]: An agreement [1:48:43, 1:48:46]: Between the applicant [1:48:46, 1:48:48]: And the city council. [1:48:50, 1:48:51]: That did not happen. [1:48:54, 1:48:55]: Right. [1:48:55, 1:48:56]: It didn't happen. [1:48:57, 1:49:17]: So uh respond and I'm I'm gonna respond to whatever you getting ready to say now. Respectfully, sir. The the contract is what you have before you that's what council approves. So whenever we get no no hold on one second I wasn't finished. He he wanted to Okay let me just make this come in, then I'm gonna yield back to Councilman Bull. [1:49:17, 1:49:20]: Let me just say this again I'm gonna respond. I'm gonna let [1:49:20, 1:49:29]: Mayor Ford. I'd like to be acknowledged after Councilman Thomas, please. Well I'm gonna yield back to to Councilman Blanc, but Mr. Garner. Yes, sir. [1:49:30, 1:49:31]: An agreement. [1:49:33, 1:49:35]: An agreement between [1:49:36, 1:49:37]: Southern Crescent. [1:49:38, 1:49:39]: And the city council. [1:49:40, 1:49:44]: It did not happen. There was where was the discussion between [1:49:45, 1:49:47]: So then Crescent. [1:49:48, 1:49:51]: and the city council. So where was that discussion for us? [1:49:52, 1:50:04]: understanding and approving and agreement. But but I'm I'm gonna yield back, but I'm just saying I'm just trying to show Can I answer the priest? Yeah, hold on one second. But I'm just trying to show [1:50:04, 1:50:07]: that this rental policy [1:50:08, 1:50:09]: Has some flaws in it. [1:50:10, 1:50:20]: And we just have to sort of get it together. But I'm I'm still trying to figure out how can we allow Southern Crescent to go forward, even though [1:50:21, 1:50:35]: This policy is not ready. But let me just yield back to to to Councilman Blount because he did have the floor. Well he did floor. But go ahead and answer your the qu uh Mr Thomas' question, Mr. Gardner, please. So so Councilman Book. [1:50:35, 1:50:55]: When an entity comes, you hire us to do to work with that entity to bring them to this point where there is a contract for this council to approve. Right? That's why you have these people here. And and the goal behind that is so that you don't have the wrangling over contractees points in in a city council meeting where [1:50:55, 1:51:03]: With with a with a with a potential person who wants to rent it, as long as they meet. As as it relates to the con to the to the policy. [1:51:03, 1:51:04]: Right. [1:51:05, 1:51:17]: We adopted the policy. We did not scrap the policy. We say we would amend it as we were moving forward, which we did in reference to some of the comments related to outside entities renting. So there is a provision in here that literally says [1:51:18, 1:51:18]: Good. [1:51:19, 1:51:28]: open to the public under commercial and for profit, open to the public where the primary use is for is making a profit. However, [1:51:28, 1:51:41]: No commercial or for profit concert shall be allowed at the amphitheater. That was one of the chief concerns that we're not competing with ourselves. So we did away with that to allow make sure that no one could come in here and have a concert. [1:51:41, 1:51:59]: in lieu of a concert that we're having. So we put that provision in there. So the key is as you have a and like with any zoning ordinance, you don't scrap the whole ordinance and then say we're gonna just amend it and leave nothing in place. You have something in place and you amend it as you go so you could get it to where you want it to be. [1:51:59, 1:52:01]: Right? We don't just take the ordinance and say it's done. [1:52:02, 1:52:03]: There's no more zooning. [1:52:03, 1:52:10]: So therefore we don't use it. So the best guide that we have is the guide that we but that we have in place. [1:52:10, 1:52:22]: Taking into account that there are some language that council wants to see change, most of those changes that we saw are not substantive changes to the actual policy. They're like change event manager to contractor. [1:52:23, 1:52:27]: Right? It wasn't anything substantive that says this is what we want to see change. [1:52:28, 1:52:34]: Correct me if I'm wrong, Council, because that's what I'm saying. Let's finish my piece. Just give me a second. I'm gonna finish my piece and y'all through with me. [1:52:35, 1:52:55]: Point of order. Point of order. What's your point of order, sir? Germain is it germane to the topic? We've they've been waiting for quite a period of time. Right. There this is not germane to approving their particular agreement. We we we this is the issue with people dealing with us. [1:52:55, 1:53:15]: We need to nip this in the bud in this conversation and vote because they've been waiting, they're patient. We know that this is a legitimate or a function that should be at the amphitheater that will bring 3,000 people downtown. Stop with the grinding and micromanaging. [1:53:14, 1:53:16]: Yeah. [1:53:16, 1:53:20]: All right. Stand by. [1:53:21, 1:53:33]: You'll get your opportunity. Mr. Washington, you got something you need to say, sir. Yeah, I'm I was gonna say part of where the confusion comes in about this is that, and this is a whole bunch of detail, but I'm gonna be brief. [1:53:34, 1:53:37]: We have a contract which is our standard contract. [1:53:37, 1:53:57]: Southern Crescent, because they are a state agency, they have a separate contract that they have to send out for signatures on when they're doing stuff because they're a state agency. So we have our policies and procedures that we sent them, and then the drafting going back and forth, they finally sent us their contract, and we, you know, Mr. Ingram. [1:53:57, 1:54:17]: And everybody, we've been on the line about this a whole bunch. So the rental policies and all the stuff that we have in place is our standard contract. What they did was they lifted language from our standard contract and put it in there. But because we know that this wanted to, we wanted to fast-track this because you all have been asking about this, this is [1:54:17, 1:54:37]: The information they lifted to put in here. So the prices that you see in there for the 2500 and 7500 and all that stuff is simply something that we can just black out, right? We can just simply black that out. That does not have to apply. And when you look at the top of the contract, it specifically says that this is just a contract between us and [1:54:37, 1:54:57]: Southern Crescent Technical, because this is the form that they send over. This is not our standard contract. This is just the contract that Southern Crescent sent to us. We got the contract at roughly 2:30 today as a clean contract. We want to try to get it before you as soon as possible. And so what will happen is the final contract, and this is one that the president did sign off on saying. [1:54:57, 1:55:08]: saying that they are fine with the language that's in this contract is that the final contract before we ask for the mayor to sign off on it, we can make the minor edits to it, which would be to take those numbers off. [1:55:09, 1:55:11]: Thank you, Mr Washington. Mr Blood, go ahead, please. [1:55:11, 1:55:12]: Thank you. [1:55:13, 1:55:16]: If you remove the other amounts [1:55:16, 1:55:22]: I'm fine with that. Everything in this contract, and let me make something clear. We had a retreat. [1:55:23, 1:55:25]: This is not new to me. [1:55:25, 1:55:25]: Yeah. [1:55:26, 1:55:28]: Everything in here we discussed. [1:55:29, 1:55:36]: Everything in here. I was clear. I'm okay with this contract. I'm okay with Southern Crescent. Only concern I asked. [1:55:37, 1:55:42]: was that if we're gonna put the amount on there that we put that writing in there. [1:55:43, 1:55:45]: Nobody up on this council. [1:55:47, 1:55:48]: Put me in office. [1:55:49, 1:55:50]: The citizens did. [1:55:51, 1:56:02]: And if we have to stay here to twelve midnight so I can make sure the citizens business is is correct in the way that I'm the voice for, that's what I'm gonna do. You gaming resolution. [1:56:03, 1:56:05]: To situation, and I'm fine with that. [1:56:06, 1:56:08]: I'm fine with you all. Have an event. [1:56:09, 1:56:29]: I just had concerns about those extra amounts in there that didn't even pertain to them. No, I that's why I wanted to explain it. This is just document drafting back and forth. They lifted it, put it in their contract because we've been going back and forth for this for several months as the mayor can attest to. They finally sent over their form contract to us, and they sent it over to us, and it had some edits. [1:56:29, 1:56:47]: and stuff in it. So we didn't get a clean contract today until roughly two weeks. So can contractually in the future if we would just put that amount that pertains to whichever one would be fine with that. I'm fine with that, yes. That that we'll totally do that now. So before before you sign it, Mr. Mayor, we'll have edited it though. Yes sir I understand. Ms. Barber go ahead please [1:56:48, 1:56:49]: Thank you, Mayor Ford. [1:56:50, 1:56:51]: Okay, so I have [1:56:52, 1:56:53]: Three questions. [1:56:54, 1:56:55]: Mr. Gardner. [1:56:55, 1:56:57]: During the retreat [1:56:57, 1:57:01]: Was this contract for Southern Crescent provided to the council? [1:57:01, 1:57:03]: For review or discussion. [1:57:03, 1:57:05]: No ma'am, there was there was really not a content at the time. [1:57:06, 1:57:07]: My next question. [1:57:08, 1:57:10]: The amphitheater policy, I know that that was [1:57:11, 1:57:15]: A topic of discussion during the retreat um and some changes. [1:57:15, 1:57:17]: That you are gonna make. Yes, ma'am. [1:57:17, 1:57:22]: I am perfectly fine with Southern Crescent holding their graduation ceremony here. [1:57:23, 1:57:24]: My concern is [1:57:25, 1:57:26]: The contract. [1:57:27, 1:57:33]: I don't know when anybody else received a copy of this contract. I mean members of the governing body. [1:57:34, 1:57:35]: I didn't receive it. [1:57:36, 1:57:38]: Until I sat down here today. [1:57:40, 1:57:41]: And I have the copy. [1:57:43, 1:57:44]: I haven't read anything. [1:57:45, 1:57:49]: So you're asking this council to approve a contract. [1:57:49, 1:57:51]: That none of us have read. [1:57:53, 1:57:53]: The mayor. [1:57:54, 1:57:55]: He did call me yesterday. [1:57:56, 1:57:58]: To make me aware that this item [1:57:58, 1:58:00]: was going to be added to our agenda today. [1:58:01, 1:58:02]: For discussion. [1:58:02, 1:58:05]: I asked for a copy of the contract. [1:58:05, 1:58:06]: To be sick. [1:58:07, 1:58:08]: Today. [1:58:08, 1:58:12]: I followed up with him again today asking, hey. [1:58:12, 1:58:14]: Are they gonna send us a copy of the contract? [1:58:15, 1:58:17]: Because I don't want to be here. [1:58:17, 1:58:19]: Discussing this contract. [1:58:19, 1:58:20]: And I haven't read it. [1:58:21, 1:58:22]: None of us have. [1:58:23, 1:58:26]: What I'm what concerns me is the inconsistency. [1:58:27, 1:58:32]: inconsistency in our processes and not only that, the pricing. [1:58:33, 1:58:34]: I don't know if [1:58:34, 1:58:39]: These pricing that are listed on this document here. [1:58:39, 1:58:40]: I guess these are [1:58:41, 1:58:42]: um cost at [1:58:42, 1:58:43]: Small being [1:58:43, 1:58:44]: Okay. [1:58:44, 1:58:45]: Electrical. [1:58:46, 1:58:46]: Cost. [1:58:47, 1:58:50]: Three hundred and fifty dollars three hundred and fifty dollars. [1:58:50, 1:58:51]: Sound. [1:58:51, 1:58:54]: Six thousand four hundred forty five dollars. [1:58:54, 1:58:55]: Janitorial. [1:58:55, 1:58:57]: Nineteen twenty five. [1:58:57, 1:58:59]: Parking attendance. [1:58:59, 1:59:00]: Two thousand dollars. [1:59:01, 1:59:03]: We didn't have parking attendance. [1:59:03, 1:59:05]: Even when we hosted our [1:59:05, 1:59:08]: First series of concerts last year. [1:59:08, 1:59:09]: Well we [1:59:09, 1:59:11]: Put that on them. [1:59:11, 1:59:14]: Those are the kinds of things that concern me. [1:59:14, 1:59:16]: If we do this now. [1:59:16, 1:59:19]: will be have to will have to be consistent. [1:59:20, 1:59:22]: Від all rental contracts that come to us. [1:59:23, 1:59:24]: Using the same [1:59:24, 1:59:25]: Pricing. [1:59:26, 1:59:28]: I don't know where these pricing [1:59:28, 1:59:29]: Came from [1:59:30, 1:59:31]: Uh [1:59:31, 1:59:34]: Were you involved in the negotiations? [1:59:34, 1:59:36]: Of this contract, Mr. Gardner. [1:59:37, 1:59:45]: You are not? No ma'am. The the pricing as specifically as it relates to parking, so last year no, we did not, but this year we do. [1:59:46, 1:59:54]: Under the new un under the new under the new management of the amphitheater leadership. That's something that we implemented this year. [1:59:54, 2:00:11]: Right, uh in terms of having a park having a private parking company to come in and manage the parking. Um as it relates to to the document, the the breakdown of of the fees are associated with what we've put in the policy document. [2:00:11, 2:00:12]: Um and [2:00:13, 2:00:19]: Jamie to how long they're going to be utilizing the facilities. So your typical concert lasts for four hours. [2:00:19, 2:00:28]: Right. They start we usually start up at five or six and we go till about ten o'clock at night. Um the the graduation is not gonna be four hours, I don't think. [2:00:28, 2:00:48]: Um and so, you know, you then have to look at how you prorate the fees that related to the to the use of the amphitheater. But everything that we've done is part of what we have as in the existing policy as we move forward with amending it. Um the the data that we got we got from from other communities [2:00:48, 2:00:50]: They have a amphitheater. [2:00:50, 2:00:53]: Um one of them being the city of Woodstock. [2:00:53, 2:00:57]: А мін дес was so Jumane to ours, that's why we looked at theirs. [2:00:58, 2:00:59]: Right. Um [2:01:01, 2:01:13]: But we we've done everything and the reason why, you know, preferably I wanted to bring this at the end because it had to go through their process. Lawyers going back and forth was the reason why it took so long. [2:01:14, 2:01:21]: Because it wasn't just our attorneys reviewing it, it was their attorneys reviewing it, getting feedback and going back and forth over the last couple of months. [2:01:21, 2:01:23]: If we had it our way, this would have been [2:01:23, 2:01:25]: to you guys in January. [2:01:26, 2:01:34]: But it wasn't because when we sent it to them as the city attorney state, they and they could attest they were back and forth between their legal counsel and our legal counsel. [2:01:35, 2:01:37]: Right, that took a lot of time. [2:01:37, 2:01:47]: So it wasn't that and I would have preferred to bring this with enough time on the twenty eighth, but the twenty eighth of this month would've left them with a week and a half to graduation and if it's denied, they don't have a venue. [2:01:49, 2:01:50]: I that was my suggestion. [2:01:51, 2:01:57]: Because I understand this was gonna be a question that came from you guys, right? And to stay consistent. [2:01:57, 2:02:04]: But sometimes you have to adapt and make changes. You can't run through the wall. You gotta go around it sometimes or go under it or go over it. [2:02:05, 2:02:10]: Right. So this was a situation that we didn't inherit. It wasn't of our making per se. [2:02:10, 2:02:26]: It was just uh let them tell the story. It was just them g us going back and forth with the changes as to what they wanted to see, what we needed to see, what they needed to have. That's what ate up almost two months of this time. Mr Gardner, my concern is I wanna be fair. [2:02:27, 2:02:32]: I wanna be fair to Southern Crescent. I see a five hundred dollar cost on here. [2:02:32, 2:02:34]: For parking lot rental rental. [2:02:35, 2:02:36]: Are we being fair? [2:02:36, 2:02:38]: Is that necessary? [2:02:38, 2:02:40]: I don't think it's necessary. Yes, ma'am. [2:02:40, 2:02:43]: It's those kinds of things that concern me. [2:02:43, 2:02:49]: Yes, ma'am. Um I am for the record, Madam Clerk, I am gonna be abstaining from this. [2:02:50, 2:03:01]: only because I have not read the terms of the contract um and I have made it a point for three years asking that contracts [2:03:01, 2:03:03]: be provided to the council [2:03:03, 2:03:04]: Beforehand, the [2:03:04, 2:03:06]: So that we can review it. [2:03:06, 2:03:07]: And [2:03:07, 2:03:08]: Bye. [2:03:08, 2:03:10]: Providing it to me. [2:03:10, 2:03:11]: А те старт у мітин. [2:03:12, 2:03:13]: It's just not [2:03:14, 2:03:15]: Sufficient enough for me. [2:03:15, 2:03:19]: That's all. All right. Thank you. Ms Mr. Thomas, please, sir. [2:03:19, 2:03:21]: Um thank you, Mayor. [2:03:22, 2:03:25]: A couple things. Um again. [2:03:25, 2:03:27]: I'm in favor of Southern Christian. [2:03:27, 2:03:34]: But I'm going to disagree with Councilman Alexander. No no one is is is micromanaging. [2:03:34, 2:03:36]: As I stated before [2:03:36, 2:03:39]: You have to have policies and procedures in place. [2:03:39, 2:03:52]: That's what we are attempting to do. You cannot do anything unless you have policies and procedures, means of how you get the business done. That's what we're preaching about today. [2:03:53, 2:04:01]: Mayor Pro Tem Barber is correct about this contract. That's the reason I asked the question. Even in the first document, it says. [2:04:02, 2:04:15]: An agreement between the applicant and the city council. It didn't say the city manager, it didn't say the city clerk, it didn't say the event staff, it says the applicant. [2:04:15, 2:04:17]: And the city council. [2:04:18, 2:04:19]: But again [2:04:20, 2:04:23]: And I don't wanna continue to throw blame [2:04:23, 2:04:28]: But this policy should have been done with. [2:04:28, 2:04:38]: We would not be going through any of this talking about a five dollar park and this and that. We have to be fair to everyone. If you had a policy in place. [2:04:39, 2:04:48]: That policy would oversee any and everyone that wanted to rent the amphitheater. That's what a policy and procedure does. [2:04:50, 2:04:58]: That's what it does. Until we understand that, we're gonna be still chaos and confusion, like we are right here, right now. [2:04:58, 2:05:01]: We did not see this contract at the retreat. [2:05:02, 2:05:08]: So I'm saying and I don't want to throw no blame at anyone, but Southern Crescent, this is not your fault. [2:05:09, 2:05:09]: So [2:05:10, 2:05:14]: I'm I'm just giving the fact the truth and the facts. [2:05:15, 2:05:32]: That's what I try to be about, the truth and the facts. And until we get this policy corrected where it pertains to any and everyone that wants to come, whether you're a nonprofit, whether you're commercial for profit, whatever the category is, the policy would lend itself to that. [2:05:33, 2:05:36]: And this is what we supposed to this should have been done. [2:05:37, 2:05:50]: Mayor. And now Southern Crescent is it's you know gett getting a shortfall because we didn't do our due diligence. I yield back, Mayor. Thank you. Thank you thank you. Appreciate a motion. Ms. Ms. Gantt, please. Mayor. Thank you. [2:05:51, 2:05:53]: Um first before I start. [2:05:55, 2:05:57]: Um this is t to Mr. Gardner. [2:05:58, 2:06:00]: The policy we voted on a policy already. [2:06:01, 2:06:10]: The meat and potatoes of the policy, the dollar amount. Is that not correct? We've already voted on those numbers, correct? Those numbers were part of the policy document, yes. And we did we adopt that policy? [2:06:11, 2:06:13]: You adopted the policy in June of last year. [2:06:13, 2:06:16]: Twenty twenty two. Okay. [2:06:16, 2:06:20]: So tell me, we were talking about amending it, but it was only for [2:06:21, 2:06:31]: minor terms, correct? Like agent slash, was it what were we amending? We were only amending certain names specific, not not the meat and potatoes. [2:06:32, 2:06:32]: But [2:06:33, 2:06:39]: Just terms. Is that not correct? So the comments that we got back were mostly germane to [2:06:40, 2:07:00]: Removing events manager and pla replacing it with contractor consultant, I think it was. So removing events manager and replacing it with what? Contractor con consultant consultant. That was the majority of that was the majority of the references. Okay. Um there were some other ones in there. I can't remember off the head'cause I don't have the notes if I [2:07:00, 2:07:15]: But it was not but dealing with the numbers and what we had already defined as nonprofit educational expenses. Is that correct? Right. There was one one area that I remember specifically I think that we wanted to add um [2:07:16, 2:07:18]: in there as it relates to [2:07:19, 2:07:39]: Um I know it was civic, educational, and then there was one other language we wanted to add to that to that to cover. He he pointed out. I just wanted to respond to something but I'll wait. What what was it? What area were we gonna add? So Because it wa it was non profits, civic was it like Yes. So [2:07:38, 2:07:42]: Under l under the current language we had there was civic, educational [2:07:43, 2:07:59]: non profit benefits, private, commercial no and for profit events. Okay. There was one one other type of entity I think that we were going to amend and I think it had to deal with civic changing the language and that civic or educational art in some another [2:07:59, 2:08:19]: type of entity. I don't have my notes in front of me, but I know that's that's what would came out of the the retreat in terms of demending that portion of it. Okay. So just adding maybe another category. But not necessarily it doesn't mess up it doesn't change anything with non profits. Is that not correct? In education I mean they they would still be the same under the same category. And there was also some discussion regarding [2:08:19, 2:08:32]: the fees and should we increase certain fees, but there was never I don't think there was a consensus in Madame City Clerk. You could remind me of if if I'm not sure if you're not a good thing. But currently the adopted policy that we have in place right now, today. [2:08:32, 2:08:44]: fits this contract agreement, correct? And this contract agreement reads between Southern Crescent Technical College and the City of Stockbridge. Is that correct? [2:08:45, 2:08:52]: That's on the first page. Yeah, I don't have it. I'm at the top. But my recommendation is well I'm I'm looking at page one. [2:08:54, 2:08:55]: This rental agreement [2:08:56, 2:09:00]: is made and enter into this tenth day of April. [2:09:00, 2:09:01]: Comma. [2:09:01, 2:09:07]: twenty twenty three, buy in between Southern Crescent Technol Technical College [2:09:08, 2:09:10]: Parentheses here and after renter. [2:09:11, 2:09:15]: And the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, here and after City. Is that not correct? [2:09:15, 2:09:20]: I would say yes. Okay. Everybody see that on page one at the top. All right, I wanna make sure. No. [2:09:21, 2:09:28]: On the page one, no one has gotten a copy of do you have a copy of this amphitheater rental part? It's the rental agreement. [2:09:28, 2:09:33]: Okay. Are you talking about Southern Crescents? [2:09:33, 2:09:42]: No, I'm I'm looking at the rental agreement by between Southern Crescent Technical College and the City of Stockbridge. All right. So one one question. I'm I'm not finished. [2:09:43, 2:09:44]: Um [2:09:45, 2:09:48]: The twenty five on page three. [2:09:49, 2:09:50]: Of this agreement. [2:09:52, 2:10:00]: We've already s asked that the other information that was copied and paste basically list of the other prop other uh [2:10:01, 2:10:05]: Events such as private events and commercial for profit events. [2:10:05, 2:10:10]: t be taken out, removed, so there would not prevent any confusion there. [2:10:11, 2:10:13]: A policy already has in place that [2:10:13, 2:10:14]: Other [2:10:15, 2:10:16]: Anyone else who rents our [2:10:16, 2:10:19]: Amphitheater cannot have concerts. [2:10:19, 2:10:20]: At the facility. [2:10:21, 2:10:25]: So that's something totally different. That's an a policy that we've already adopted and voted on. [2:10:26, 2:10:28]: And I asked that we remove [2:10:28, 2:10:29]: On clause eight. [2:10:30, 2:10:31]: Okay. [2:10:31, 2:10:38]: parking at elementary school that we remove that because that has nothing to do with the city of stop city of I can't we cannot contract. [2:10:39, 2:10:40]: With that. Understanding? [2:10:41, 2:10:44]: All right. In in regards to everything else [2:10:45, 2:10:47]: My only other questions are one. [2:10:48, 2:11:07]: What is the clause due to force of nature in regards to rain? What is the the w what are we going what's gonna happen at that point? Has that been discussed at all? I don't see it in this agreement. So I need to know I don't see that clause in here. I'm sorry, I'm a lawyer. [2:11:08, 2:11:10]: So I'm asking. [2:11:11, 2:11:15]: Where is that? And I need to know whether or not that clause [2:11:16, 2:11:26]: And what would be the plan B? Because it says that once you rent, it's non refundable. So let me know where where we are with that. I want to answer to that one. And I also want [2:11:27, 2:11:28]: To know [2:11:29, 2:11:29]: Um [2:11:30, 2:11:44]: I don't have any objections, none whatsoever. I think this is great. I think this is what we want. We want graduations at our amphitheater. We want the community and we're very proud and I would love to always support Southern Crescent. I want you to know that. [2:11:45, 2:11:48]: Um I will vote in favor of this. [2:11:48, 2:12:04]: Once we get all our uh once you can tell me the answer to in regards to the rain clause or whatever happens clause, the force of nature clause. And also I need to see the I saw a clause in here about damages, but those damages [2:12:04, 2:12:06]: The clause did not [2:12:06, 2:12:07]: One second? [2:12:08, 2:12:13]: Page four cla um section twelve says damage to personal property. [2:12:14, 2:12:29]: To the extent permitted by Georgia Law, the city is not liable for the loss or damage of any goods, equipment, or personal items stored on or used at or around the facility premises. But what about the damages to our premises? What's the repercussion of that? Where's that clause? [2:12:30, 2:12:32]: Those two items I need. [2:12:34, 2:12:35]: Seems possible. [2:12:36, 2:12:37]: Other than that. [2:12:38, 2:12:41]: I one hundred percent support Southern Crescent. [2:12:42, 2:12:44]: being a part of our um [2:12:45, 2:13:05]: uh participating here, I I'm I want to apologize. I'm sorry you have to go through this scrutiny of debates. Um it's not your fault. It's I believe that everybody on this on this council, based off of what I've heard, supports the fact that graduation would be held here. We will love it here. I just want to make sure that our claw and I [2:13:04, 2:13:11]: I would vote for it today as so long as those clauses are in there to protect the city. That's our job. [2:13:12, 2:13:14]: Okay. Mr. Thomas, sir. [2:13:15, 2:13:20]: I I'm gonna agree, as I stated before, uh I I'm in favor of Southern Crescent. [2:13:20, 2:13:20]: But [2:13:21, 2:13:36]: My message is to the staff, Southern Christmas, not to the staff, and and and and and I'm gonna continue to say this. Now, in that agreement, in that rental policy that we approve, that we keep referencing to. [2:13:36, 2:13:38]: It says [2:13:40, 2:13:43]: Agreement between the applicant [2:13:43, 2:13:53]: and the city council. Now we understand that some of us understand when you see the city of Stockbridge, that's that's the same as the city council. [2:13:53, 2:13:54]: Number one. [2:13:56, 2:14:00]: But the contract itself and council woman barber is correct. [2:14:01, 2:14:14]: This is what we have to stop doing, staff, is giving us something at the last minute. We just had a retreat. We should have had this contract at at the retreat so we could [2:14:14, 2:14:18]: This should have been on we we should have been on on on agenda item twelve by now. [2:14:19, 2:14:20]: Because [2:14:20, 2:14:23]: It's a failure of of a process. [2:14:24, 2:14:26]: Point of order. What's the point of order, sir? [2:14:26, 2:14:29]: Point of order, if we have any [2:14:30, 2:14:35]: ours or anything with staff itself as a council [2:14:35, 2:14:38]: Those things are addressed behind closed doors. Correct. [2:14:38, 2:14:45]: Well I I and I agree with that. [2:14:45, 2:14:50]: Because what we're gonna do is take the staff out to the barn and spank'em, then that's a do totally different ki uh um [2:14:51, 2:14:52]: That's a totally different meeting. Okay. [2:14:53, 2:14:54]: Are we gonna prove this or not right now? [2:14:55, 2:14:56]: May I for may I f finish. [2:14:57, 2:15:01]: Okay. I I'm gonna agree with that as far as the staff [2:15:02, 2:15:03]: But [2:15:04, 2:15:08]: When we try to deal with these things proactively. [2:15:09, 2:15:13]: And then if it don't happen, then it leaves us no course but but to do just that. [2:15:13, 2:15:17]: But again, I'm in favor. I will vote in favor of this. [2:15:17, 2:15:18]: But [2:15:18, 2:15:20]: I get tired of [2:15:20, 2:15:40]: Coming here on the dais and going through the same thing every day. And especially when we start talking about contract. Councilwoman Barber is correct about contract. And we have said this over and over and over. Give us contract in a timely manner so we can review and we can make an intelligent and a comprehensive decision. So I [2:15:40, 2:15:51]: I just wanna say that yeah, I I I'm more apologize for um tasked and counsel, but I mean uh staff, but when you don't give us a choice. [2:15:51, 2:15:59]: d this is sort of where we are. So but going forward, um, may I'm gonna yield back and hopefully um [2:16:00, 2:16:20]: Whatever the contract says and whatever the agreements are. I got it. You know, we we can sort of just go forward. And I guess any b any any other organization that come in behind this, how how do we treat them? Right. What what I'm look what I'm looking for now is a is a motion with the put particular things that we we want to see a change. [2:16:19, 2:16:39]: I guess a couple different things that were identified that need to be changed to and and uh provided that we may have we document those particular changes properly for the clerk and for understanding and have a motion to go ahead and approve this particular contract. So in that case, um uh Mr. Gardner and Mr. Um [2:16:39, 2:16:51]: Uh Washington. Could you come back to the podium first, uh please, before we go down this road? I want you all present. I got it. Okay. I got it. [2:17:00, 2:17:07]: Right. Is this is this on you now, Ms. Gat? Yes. I'll go right ahead, please. Mayor, I move that we approve the rental. [2:17:07, 2:17:10]: Between Southern Crescent and the city of Stockbridge. [2:17:11, 2:17:12]: With conditions [2:17:12, 2:17:14]: Changes in the contract agreement to read. [2:17:15, 2:17:16]: R on page three. [2:17:17, 2:17:17]: Remove [2:17:18, 2:17:20]: Under klas six. [2:17:21, 2:17:35]: Fees, remove private events at seven thousand five hundred dollars, and commercial slash for profit events of ten thousand dollars. Specifically just state what we are renting for, which is this nonprofit educational event. [2:17:35, 2:17:46]: Or educational event. Civic I'm sorry, civic and educational event. Second. I also wait, then I'm not done. I also asked on clause eight that we remove [2:17:47, 2:17:52]: Class A item K, which reads parking at elementary school on page three. [2:17:52, 2:17:56]: We also need to add into the contract agreement [2:17:58, 2:17:58]: Um [2:18:00, 2:18:11]: There's in our policy we voted for number six, which is security slash damage deposits, and we talk about damages. If anything happened to the amphitheater, that needs to be placed into the agreement. [2:18:12, 2:18:13]: Along with [2:18:13, 2:18:14]: Um [2:18:14, 2:18:16]: The mentioning of [2:18:16, 2:18:19]: you know, the rain or rain out or whatever the case may be. [2:18:20, 2:18:30]: Um having said that, I ask that we move to approve this with those conditions. Second. Okay. Motion is made and seconded. We have plenty of discussion. So all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [2:18:30, 2:18:38]: The the the procedures discussion, one of the things I wanna say, Mayor, is that this concern came up about [2:18:38, 2:18:55]: About the rain date and is there an alternative date? All this came up and I've yet to hear anything about that either. Well t well it what the staff's gonna work out. So all in favor of the motion please indicate once again. All right. [2:18:55, 2:19:00]: I'd like to add a comment for my extension. [2:19:00, 2:19:02]: Madam Clerk, for the record. [2:19:03, 2:19:04]: The full council. [2:19:05, 2:19:08]: Was not provided a copy of the contract. [2:19:08, 2:19:10]: Prior to the start. [2:19:10, 2:19:11]: of tonight's meeting. [2:19:12, 2:19:13]: I will abstain. [2:19:14, 2:19:16]: For that reason. Thank you. [2:19:16, 2:19:19]: Okay, z four zero one motion passed. [2:19:19, 2:19:39]: Dr. Clark and Dr. Johns, congratulations. We look for a long, long relationship with your college, and I know it's gonna be an outstanding event. I look forward to that and look forward to having a good time and watching everybody come across the stage, get the diplomas, families, grandparents, children, enjoy themselves. [2:19:39, 2:19:52]: Your staff have done a wonderful job. And by the way, before you go, y I don't know if there's anything you want to say. You can do it now, sir, or ma'am, if you'd like. It's up to you. But but thank you for being so patient and working with us. [2:19:52, 2:19:53]: Thank you all so much. [2:19:56, 2:20:16]: I'll just say um good afternoon, good evening, council. Thank you, Mayor Ford. Thank you, all of you, for your support. Uh Southern Crescent Technical College, which is one of 22 technical colleges here in the state of Georgia. We are proud to be able to serve not only Henry County but Stockbridge, be able to host our graduation here this year. Uh approximately 2,500 in [2:20:16, 2:20:36]: Individuals, over 400 graduates will be on site to celebrate as they earn their associates' degrees, their diplomas, and their technical certificates of completion. So we're excited to be able to support workforce development in the region and particularly in Henry County. And look forward to seeing all of you at the graduation this year as we celebrate our students and we help support our [2:20:36, 2:20:43]: industry partners to keep Georgia number one for workforce development. So thank you so much. Thank you, sir. God bless you. Thank you. Appreciate it. [2:20:44, 2:20:49]: Alrighty. Sanitation Rollout Plan presented by Mr Aaron, please. [2:20:59, 2:21:19]: Good evening, Mr. Mayor and Council. Tonight we come before you to discuss our public works and GFL. We'll roll out the sanitation services for the recently annexed residents. This has been a long, arduous process. This has been more difficult than when I oversaw the recycling program. [2:21:18, 2:21:38]: Program rollout for 96,000 customers with the city of Atlanta. One of the most challenging things was actually getting a listing that was accurate and up to date that we could provide and review and scrutinize with GFL. Then the next thing was, how were we [2:21:38, 2:21:58]: Going to go about billing the residents as the city doesn't currently have a billing mechanism in place. How we go about billing them temporarily for this year and ensuring that we collect the revenues to support this service. And the third thing was how do we go about integrating the annexed residence? [2:21:58, 2:22:02]: into the current sanitation system. [2:22:02, 2:22:05]: And last but not least was [2:22:05, 2:22:06]: How do we allow [2:22:06, 2:22:10]: residents to transition from their current provider. [2:22:10, 2:22:23]: to the city's uh provider because some residents we've learned have paid up for the year, they've paid through twenty twenty three. Some have varying expiring dates on their current terms. [2:22:23, 2:22:26]: Some are satisfied with the current provider that they have. [2:22:27, 2:22:33]: But the city makes it mandatory that residents have to use the city's provider. And so [2:22:34, 2:22:43]: What we have done is we've had bi-weekly meetings with GFL and our representative. We have secured the carts, but the main thing was the billing piece. [2:22:44, 2:23:04]: Because when we transitioned the residents in Carriage Lakes, we had a hundred customers. So we could absorb those costs. It cost us twelve hundred dollars a month to absorb those customers from August through the end of the year. But with these over 2,000 customers, it's gonna be about$40,000 a month. So we had to make sure that [2:23:04, 2:23:07]: that we get the revenue for that. The first thing that I presented to you. [2:23:08, 2:23:25]: in your packet was just a timeline outlining how much time and effort has been spent by uh Jeremy Goodwin, Leslie Nordsworthy and I with representatives from GFL to make sure that this thing went off smoothly and with as little hiccups as possible. [2:23:25, 2:23:40]: And also to ensure that the data and information we had was as accurate as possible because we build on a property tax statement. And when this goes out, we want it to be accurate because if not, we're gonna have to have a process to refund people that [2:23:41, 2:23:41]: We're not [2:23:42, 2:23:45]: that are not in the city but were built for the service so [2:23:46, 2:23:51]: Currently there are about 742 customers that are currently GFL customers. [2:23:52, 2:23:57]: And so some two hundred expire in uh [2:23:58, 2:24:03]: On June first, two hundred and sixty-two people will begin paying the city's rate. [2:24:03, 2:24:23]: On July 1st, 234 customers will start paying the rate. And on August 1st, 236. So we finally got a list that we felt was accurate on the 17th of March from the tax commissioners. So we sent out a letter to all of those customers on April 3rd. [2:24:23, 2:24:24]: There we go. [2:24:25, 2:24:45]: And that their carts will be delivered on May, starting May 1st, we'll start delivering those carts to the 1300 that are not GFL customers. And June 5th, residents will start receiving service from GFL at the city's preferred rate. And one of the things we've been getting a lot of emails and calls. [2:24:44, 2:25:00]: From new customers. They're excited. And they're also liking the fact that they're gonna get three additional services because most people just get sanitation and that's it. They don't get the recycling. So we've had some that are concerned that [2:25:00, 2:25:20]: In the county, they were allowed to not have sanitation services. So we've had a couple of residents call, say, well, I take mine to work with me. So but the process is rolling out in May. The first of May, they'll start receiving their carts. And then on the 5th of June, that's when the service goes live and everybody becomes a city of. [2:25:20, 2:25:22]: stop raised customer. [2:25:24, 2:25:44]: uh entertain any questions that anyone may have. Well I like I like your presentation and uh and it's timeline. Uh I'm going to uh read it thoroughly. I understand that been doing a lot of the good work. So transitioning to these new customers is is uh something that obviously you got a plan and we need to implement the plan properly and uh and make sure that those new citizens [2:25:44, 2:25:58]: realize that we do care about them. We're gonna take care of them and uh and make sure that they understand that uh they want to be proud to join the city Stockbridge and they they d and they voted the right way. Okay. Any other comments from the council? Yes ma'am go ahead please Ms. Barber. [2:25:58, 2:26:04]: Thank you, Mr. Aaron, for your presentation. Um, according to the timeline here. [2:26:08, 2:26:15]: I see on the second page where [2:26:16, 2:26:20]: uh procurement in December [2:26:20, 2:26:21]: December seventh. [2:26:22, 2:26:27]: An email from procurement to sanit sanitation evaluation committee. [2:26:28, 2:26:31]: I assume that is for you all to determine [2:26:31, 2:26:33]: Um the bids. [2:26:33, 2:26:35]: Or proposals that were submitted. However [2:26:36, 2:26:38]: The council approved, and [2:26:39, 2:26:42]: The extension of the existing contract [2:26:43, 2:26:44]: Wendy. [2:26:45, 2:26:47]: Bid or advertisement. [2:26:47, 2:26:49]: For the sanitation was still open. [2:26:50, 2:26:54]: I don't see that on your timeline. That the council approved. [2:26:55, 2:26:56]: Extending [2:26:56, 2:26:57]: The contract. [2:26:59, 2:27:00]: That's not on your timeline. [2:27:01, 2:27:03]: Uh it was on [2:27:03, 2:27:16]: That meeting in December, I think it was December twelfth. No, it was in November. It was prior to the close of the solicitation that was out there. You all had not evaluated the bids. [2:27:22, 2:27:33]: No uh it's on December twelfth. There's an email from Mr. Berry to Scott Johnson at GFL stating that that would come up for a vote on December twelfth. [2:27:33, 2:27:36]: About the extension of the year. [2:27:36, 2:27:39]: You came to the council in November. [2:27:39, 2:27:40]: You and Mr. Gardner. [2:27:41, 2:27:41]: U S [2:27:42, 2:27:43]: That we extend [2:27:43, 2:27:45]: The existing contract. [2:27:45, 2:27:46]: With GFAL. [2:27:47, 2:27:48]: І не вас прав. [2:27:49, 2:27:51]: You all evaluating [2:27:51, 2:27:53]: The two proposals that you received. [2:27:54, 2:27:56]: That is not a part of your timeline. [2:27:56, 2:27:57]: That you receive [2:27:58, 2:28:00]: Approval from the council. [2:28:00, 2:28:02]: To extend the current contract. [2:28:03, 2:28:08]: That was either at our November council meeting or the November work session. [2:28:09, 2:28:21]: It's just not a part of your time. When it was [2:28:21, 2:28:24]: Assigned by the mayor, but it was approved by the council. [2:28:25, 2:28:26]: In November. [2:28:26, 2:28:28]: Okay. [2:28:28, 2:28:29]: Um [2:28:29, 2:28:31]: So that I'm clear. [2:28:31, 2:28:32]: Because [2:28:33, 2:28:36]: We told the citizens that they would get sanitation services. [2:28:37, 2:28:38]: In January. [2:28:39, 2:28:42]: And we've been prolonging this. [2:28:42, 2:28:43]: So I [2:28:43, 2:28:48]: I'm clear we have a timeline now of when this rollout will happen. [2:28:49, 2:28:50]: Yes, ma'am. [2:28:50, 2:28:52]: We need to stick with this. [2:28:52, 2:29:10]: There cannot be any more pushbacks. No more excuses. Mr. Gardner, in fact, can you please, sir? This is because I'm timeline. Yeah, you gave me an explanation of all this in November. [2:29:11, 2:29:15]: And you said we would start rolling it out second quarter of twenty twenty three. [2:29:16, 2:29:21]: That didn't happen either. This is I can't hold you accountable, but Mr. Gardner, I can. [2:29:22, 2:29:24]: The residence here. [2:29:24, 2:29:24]: Mayor. [2:29:24, 2:29:26]: We cannot stand by. [2:29:26, 2:29:30]: Keep telling them that we're gonna do something and not stick with it. [2:29:31, 2:29:35]: If they put pressure on me, I'm putting pressure on mister Gardiner. [2:29:36, 2:29:38]: Do what we say we're gonna do. [2:29:38, 2:29:39]: That's all. [2:29:40, 2:29:42]: That's all. Don't make me out to be a liar. [2:29:43, 2:29:45]: Because we just keep prolonging this. [2:29:46, 2:29:47]: And I don't know any other way to [2:29:47, 2:29:48]: Put it. [2:29:49, 2:29:50]: Please. [2:29:50, 2:29:51]: Let's stick with this. [2:29:52, 2:29:53]: If we can't make it happen [2:29:54, 2:29:58]: Тен ви неї то мтоєр. [2:29:58, 2:29:59]: That's all. [2:30:00, 2:30:01]: Mr. Gardner. Mayor. [2:30:01, 2:30:03]: Thank you, ma'am. Yes, we will. [2:30:05, 2:30:05]: Mary. [2:30:06, 2:30:11]: All right, so Ms. she's done. Ms. Gantt, please go ahead please. Thank you. [2:30:11, 2:30:12]: Um [2:30:13, 2:30:19]: If I d I think I recall this correctly, we were told a while ago that [2:30:20, 2:30:37]: We would have to roll out second quarter. Well second quarter starts now. I believe. So January, February, March is first quarter. Second quarter would be April, May, June. But I so I wasn't I I just want you to be clear, I thank you for providing this to us. [2:30:37, 2:30:38]: Um [2:30:38, 2:30:39]: I didn't think that [2:30:40, 2:30:44]: We were going to have sanitation right off because we were notified [2:30:45, 2:30:48]: that we weren't. I just wanted to make sure that we communicated that [2:30:49, 2:31:05]: to all of the people who were annexed in. Because I do see a lot of times on social media that there are questions as to when are they to receive sanitation. So I wanna make sure that the city's doing everything it possible they can [2:31:05, 2:31:17]: and have communicated that to those people who have newly been annexed in and didn't and and wanted to know those that particular ant question. But I did not expect for us to roll this out in January. [2:31:17, 2:31:26]: Um, I do remember you rec stating that it was gonna take a while um just to even get some of the receptacles and some of the the things that are needed. [2:31:27, 2:31:29]: And even if we were to go with another [2:31:29, 2:31:32]: Agency, another uh sanitation [2:31:33, 2:31:34]: uh company. [2:31:34, 2:31:54]: they too would have a hard time based off of the amount of supplies and things that were going on within the economy in general. Yes. Is that not correct? Yes, ma'am. One of the most difficult things has been actually the actual number of residents. Because one one spreadsheet we got had over two twenty four hundred. [2:31:54, 2:32:14]: residents on it. Then another one had, I think, like 1400. Then you had another one that had 1200. So you had to go through and verify all of those addresses based on the annexation to ensure that we were notifying the right customers. Like I said, this goes on their property tax statement. And so we [2:32:14, 2:32:21]: We didn't wanna be stuck if we had to reh refund two hundred or three hundred people that money that we've [2:32:21, 2:32:41]: Collected. Correct. So we wanted to make sure what we do was proper and this process is as seamless as possible because guess what? It's gonna be some people, we're gonna have some hiccups when it starts. And it's gonna be some people that were perfectly fine with the company they had. And now they're having issues. So you're gonna be getting calls. We're gonna be getting calls from I didn't have [2:32:41, 2:33:01]: A problem with my old company. Y'all made me change. Now I'm having problems. We're trying to make this as seamless as possible. And the fact that we spent all of this effort and time identifying the potential pitfalls, I mean, there's a lot of countless hours has been involved in it. We've got three different ways for people to sign up. They can go online and sign up. [2:33:01, 2:33:21]: Call public works, they can call GFL. That mailing went out to all of those residents last week, and our email and phone have been blowing up since Thursday. I was taking calls Friday from people that wanted to sign up for the service. So I think we've done a good job, you know, ensuring that this thing is gonna be as seamless as possible. Like we said in that letter. [2:33:21, 2:33:41]: Better. Please give us time. There's gonna be some hiccups, but I think when people you go from paying$35 a month to$17, and now you're getting bulk waste pickup, recycling and yard waste. And when you're paying$30 just to get sanitation garbage, I think that's a big win for our residents. And I think the majority of them have been patient. I have [2:33:41, 2:34:01]: Not had but one disgruntled person, and that person was upset because they have a business in Stockbridge. They live on Banks Road, they take their trash to their business, so they don't have to have sanitation at home. But now they're gonna have to have it. That's the only disgruntled customer or resident that I've taken a call from. Most people are happy, they understand the process because it's just [2:34:01, 2:34:21]: Just like if you were a business and you bought another business, there's a transition process and you try to ensure that that process goes as smoothly as possible. And that's what we've done. And I think you're gonna be satisfied when it rolls out because you're not gonna get all the phone calls if we would have just haphazardly said come January we threw out 2,000 carts, but we didn't have a plan in place. [2:34:21, 2:34:38]: Right. To make sure that it was successful and we've done that. Well, I wanna thank you and and the department for rolling out this plan in an organized fashion. I do understand that some of the challenges. Um we've confirmed with GFL some of the challenges that were was to get some of the receptacles. [2:34:38, 2:34:50]: as well as any other company in sanitation. So I I appreciate that. We are on today's the tenth of April, so we are on the tenth day of our second term and you guys are right on time. And so I really appreciate that as well because [2:34:51, 2:34:53]: I thought that it was gonna take a year. [2:34:53, 2:35:13]: Based off of what you said last year, you your estimate was past six months, uh uh seven months. So here we are. I I believe that we're ahead of the game with this, and I'm glad we are, but I'm also glad that it's done in the manner that it is, and that you've had an outline here showing us um and you know, hopefully [2:35:13, 2:35:16]: our residents will see this as well. So thank you. [2:35:17, 2:35:21]: Any qu okay, Miss Barber, go ahead please. Um so [2:35:22, 2:35:28]: During the town halls that we had for annexation, um, Councilwoman Gantt [2:35:28, 2:35:33]: It was said that those new residents would begin receiving sanitation services. [2:35:33, 2:35:35]: January first, [2:35:36, 2:35:37]: Of twenty twenty three. [2:35:38, 2:35:40]: That's what was told to them. [2:35:40, 2:35:48]: So that is why I keep asking, please, let's stick with these dates. Then January [2:35:49, 2:35:56]: Mister Aaron said that we would begin in second quarter rolling it out. [2:35:56, 2:35:58]: So I just want us to stick with what we're [2:35:59, 2:36:03]: Stick with what we're saying, that's all. I don't want us to delay it. [2:36:04, 2:36:08]: Any further. That's all. Thank you. Any uh comments from the council? Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [2:36:09, 2:36:14]: Um, you know, usually when I talk I try to know what I'm talking about when I open my mouth, so [2:36:15, 2:36:30]: One one of the things that concern has concerned me, Miss Arian and I would say this to you, with what you're working with n right now, I think that you guys are diligently doing a doing a good job. I mean it's a a lot of stuff, a lot of moving parts going on right now. [2:36:31, 2:36:36]: However, I I I just believe that we as a city as a city and a as a whole [2:36:37, 2:36:38]: Um [2:36:39, 2:36:59]: We have to put we we have to have we gotta put strong um proactive contingency plans in place. Um and I'm not gonna go into that, but I just believe that strong proactive plans and when I [2:36:59, 2:37:06]: I say contingencies because none of us none of us knew if the annexation piece was going to come in or not. [2:37:07, 2:37:14]: But the proactive contingency plan in place, I I just believe that would have um [2:37:15, 2:37:18]: Have things a whole lot better, that's all I'm gonna say on that. [2:37:18, 2:37:20]: All right, any other comments from the council? [2:37:21, 2:37:36]: If not, thank you for the presentation. Appreciate it. You got a good timeline. I know you're gonna make it work. It's gonna work out well successful. Thank you. Appreciate that. Thank you, Mr. Mayor and Council. New business. Council consideration approved the revised youth council and youth council advisory committee bylaws presented by Doctor [2:37:36, 2:37:37]: Codeing? [2:37:38, 2:37:39]: There you go. [2:37:40, 2:37:42]: Um [2:37:43, 2:37:44]: Yes, you did. [2:37:45, 2:38:01]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Good evening. Thank y'all for having me up today. Um, two we we're trying to revise what we have the Stockbridge Youth Council Advisory Committee. We've adv um revised the Stockbridge Youth Council bylaws as well as the [2:38:02, 2:38:07]: Thought review council advisory committee bylaws. Have ya had the opportunity to look at them all? [2:38:07, 2:38:20]: Would y'all want me to go I personally took a look at it, yes. Okay, do y'all want to I personally did I Do y'all want me to go line by line? Just to correct just the um revisions that we made. That you highlighted already. Yes. Okay, got it. Go ahead. Okay, so I'll go over those. [2:38:20, 2:38:24]: So um first we're gonna go with the stock for youth council bylaws. [2:38:25, 2:38:42]: So if y'all can pull that out in front of you all on the very first page. Um the one thing that we wanted to revise, um initially we did not have a GPA attached to the um bylaws, but we thought it was appropriate to put that. Um now mind you. [2:38:43, 2:39:03]: Our children on the youth council, they are 3.0 and above, but we did not want to um eliminate any students that felt that they, you know, 2.75 is what we agreed upon. Um we thought that was a good standard. Um that's not to say that we are lessening our standards, however, we want to incorporate [2:39:03, 2:39:05]: Ли ал до Ют осток. [2:39:06, 2:39:24]: um in the surrounding areas that that can be attached to this program um because we feel that a leader, uh your GPA is not dictated by leadership. I should I say leadership is not dictated by your GPA. So we wanted to have an inclusive um language for that. So that's the reason why we changed that. [2:39:25, 2:39:29]: Um moving to the page behind that. Um [2:39:30, 2:39:40]: We wanted to we added um council participants agreed to miss no more than three monthly meetings per school year. Initially we had [2:39:41, 2:39:43]: Let me go to that one. One second. [2:39:59, 2:40:01]: Sorry, I'm trying to find that spot. [2:40:04, 2:40:06]: Initially we had no more than four. [2:40:07, 2:40:27]: Um we we changed that um because we felt four was a little bit m too much because the kids throughout the school year the kids may have or should I say the youth, they may have um an event, maybe they're on football this season or maybe they're on basketball the next season. So we understand that they still have [2:40:27, 2:40:42]: have lives outside of the youth council. So we wanted to limit that so that they wouldn't be penalized. I felt that they would you know was penalized for not coming at that time. And also um we changed or re enhanced the ten hour [2:40:42, 2:40:52]: minimum for community service because the kids are doing that with their eyes closed. So we wanted to give them a little challenge and so we increased that to twenty hours. [2:40:52, 2:40:54]: Her um [2:40:54, 2:40:56]: Pro school time. [2:40:56, 2:41:16]: Uh moving on to the bottom of the page for good standing. Um this is just a recap of the um the 2.75 GPA, so that still stands and moving on to the page um article nine, SYC ambassadors. We wanted to [2:41:16, 2:41:19]: [9681.0, 9683.8]: I'm sorry. We wanted to mirror the um [2:41:25, 2:41:41]: what their standards what the s what the root the what the standards are for the ambassadors with um mayor and what the youth council or should I say what the mayor and youth and the council members do up here because the program does represent the mayor and council here so that's why we change [2:41:42, 2:41:48]: the s the standards for their um criteria on the back. [2:41:49, 2:42:09]: Are there any questions about the SYC? I think your changes are fantastic. I I like them personally. Okay. Comment any other comments from the council? Yes. Go right in, please. Thank you so much. And I appreciate the recognition that we want to include more students, uh, as many as possible. And obviously we understand that uh [2:42:09, 2:42:20]: uh there's more to it than the uh actual GPA. And I've said from the beginning, we don't want perfect students. We want a representation of what we have in the community. [2:42:20, 2:42:26]: Exactly. Okay. So would you like me to move on to the advisory committee? Yes, please go ahead. Yes. [2:42:27, 2:42:32]: Um so the advisory committee was um also [2:42:34, 2:42:48]: Redone in order to cap recap. The first page under responsibilities of committee, the Stockwood Youth Council will host at least four events per year. Um this was changed from we'll have [2:42:49, 2:43:06]: to at least be at four events per year. And the reason why we changed it to that is we wanted them to be at um events that we're hosting. So we volunteer a lot around the community, but we wanted to be able to have um them for the events that we're actually hosting. [2:43:06, 2:43:08]: Uh moving to page three. [2:43:08, 2:43:20]: Um it was erroneously put in the last bylaws, um bi weekly meetings, as we know, the youth council as well as the sock bridge advisory council, we meet on a monthly basis. [2:43:21, 2:43:26]: Um po moving to article five attendance policy. Um [2:43:27, 2:43:44]: We have advisory council members are required to attend at least seventy percent of the SYC AC meetings um and fifty percent of the Y S the Youth Council work sessions for planning and fifty percent of the youth council activities, approved calendar events. [2:43:44, 2:44:04]: Um we put the um approved calendar events because we require the advisory to have a more hands-on approach. Uh, we do understand that the advisory committee itself they have jobs, they have families, they have children, um, and other events to attend, but we feel that if you are a member of the advisory committee, you need to [2:44:04, 2:44:19]: to be there to all in order to mentor the young the youth and the only way you can do that is by actually being present. So we increase that a little bit so that we make sure that the advisory committee is there to mentor and guide the youth. [2:44:20, 2:44:22]: Um on the fourth page. [2:44:23, 2:44:43]: We um changed if you go down to number three from the top, um actively engaged, that also goes hand in hand with why we change the percentage of time that we would, you know, expect the advisory committee to be present so that they can, you know, do more mentoring and advise the youth because that is actually [2:44:43, 2:44:48]: our reason for s you know being sworn in to this um position. [2:44:49, 2:44:51]: I'm going to the sixth page. [2:44:52, 2:45:12]: For the bookkeeper, initially we had the bookkeeper would um just review all the the items that you know the money that we've spent. Um this was added to add to add more transparency. The bookkeeper will reconcile purchases made on behalf of the SYC and provide a monthly financial report. [2:45:12, 2:45:23]: report. So that will in turn not only provide more transparency to the board, but also to let us know what we've spent and what we have left to spend for the either that quarter or the year. [2:45:25, 2:45:27]: Moving on to page seven. [2:45:27, 2:45:33]: If you look at close to the bottom of the page, the middle page, article um eleven, fiscal year. [2:45:34, 2:45:43]: Um any events during the summer months are strictly mandatory, but what we did um normally the committee for the youth council as well as advisory [2:45:44, 2:45:47]: The time period is from August to May. [2:45:47, 2:46:07]: Um with July and June being off. Now we know that our students are busy throughout the whole school year. So we want them to rest for the summer months with is which is July, June and July. But for the advisory committee, we felt we should help hold ourselves to a little higher standard. And okay, we'll take June off, but July we need to come back for um [2:46:07, 2:46:16]: Planning sessions, meetings, and development programs in order to welcome our youth back and be prepared for them when they come back from the summer break. [2:46:17, 2:46:32]: And I do believe this is the last mention, which is um we change these bylaws may be altered, amended, or appealed and may be adopted by a majority of the member of the committee at a regular or special meetings of the committee. [2:46:32, 2:46:38]: Proposed amendments to the bylaws shall be sent in writing to all committee members at least seven days before. [2:46:38, 2:46:40]: Prior to the meeting [2:46:40, 2:47:00]: Um initially that was not in there. Um we think that seven days is appropriate because it's not many pages for the advisory committee to review. We wanted them to review it, bring their suggestions to the next monthly meeting, and then we discuss it if it's something that we all agree upon, then we vote upon it, and then we bring it to the next. [2:47:00, 2:47:02]: to mayor and council for them to approve. [2:47:02, 2:47:05]: That's all I have. Fantastic. Any questions? [2:47:06, 2:47:20]: Mayor. Yes, ma'am. Go ahead, please. I move that we approve the bylaws for the youth council advisory committee. Ms. Mr. Blount, second that Ms. Gann made that motion. All favor, please indicate. She announced the decision. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Thank you for your time. All right, fantastic. [2:47:21, 2:47:35]: Council consideration approved the use of Amphitheater Green Room Thursday, May 4th, 2023, from 6 p.m. to 8 p.m. to host a small national small business week reception and honor small business owners presented by Kimberly Alance. [2:47:35, 2:47:55]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Kim Alons, Economic Development Director. Uh every year the na the small business administration recognizes uh small business owners for their contribution to our local economy and our national economy. And this year, National Small Business Week will fall on from April thirtieth through uh May. [2:47:55, 2:48:11]: six and your economic development department would like to host an event just to thank our business owners and we're here today to ask for approval to use the amphitheater green room to host that event on Thursday, May 4th from six to eight PM. [2:48:13, 2:48:18]: Okay. I would like to take any questions. Thank you. Questions, concerns. Mayor. Yes, ma'am. Go ahead, please. [2:48:18, 2:48:38]: I I just want to make sure it's gonna be large enough for the small businesses. You're inviting all the small businesses in the city? Yes, so we're we're inviting everyone. Um unfortunately we only have uh space for about fifty people. Um so we're gonna send out um an event uh blast and uh see how many people we get to our SVP point, but we'll have to [2:48:38, 2:48:41]: [10121.5, 10126.9]: Or you can go upstairs to the catwalk area where they do the sponsorship thing and have more room to spread out. [2:48:47, 2:48:51]: We'll see how the response that we get. Um we're gonna [2:48:52, 2:48:56]: And the RSP. You wouldn't want to limit for small businesses, is what I'm saying. [2:48:56, 2:49:05]: So if it gets larger, then you might need a larger venue. And I'm okay with that. I think that's a great idea. And I think i it's it's needed. [2:49:05, 2:49:21]: It's been needed. So on that note, I vote to approve um I make a motion to approve this uh national small busy business week reception at on May 4th, 2023 in the green room. But if a larger venue is needed. [2:49:21, 2:49:30]: I vote that we allow it regardless, unless unless it's already booked. Okay, Mr. Alexander second that motion for Ms. Cant. Any further discussion? [2:49:31, 2:49:33]: All right, all in favor of the motion please indicate. [2:49:33, 2:49:36]: It's a nasty season. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. [2:49:36, 2:49:36]: All right. [2:49:38, 2:49:41]: Approval to apply for a grant. [2:49:41, 2:49:50]: Georgia Land and Water Conservation Fund, LWCF, presented by Jeremy Goodwin and Kelly Russell, please. [2:49:53, 2:49:53]: Evening. [2:50:03, 2:50:06]: Did you be fair? Could you speak into the mic or somehow get it closer to you? [2:50:07, 2:50:08]: Uh this is a little better, I guess. [2:50:09, 2:50:09]: Thank you. [2:50:11, 2:50:14]: Yeah. Oh approval client. [2:50:16, 2:50:35]: Uh we're seeking to apply for the Georgia Department of Natural Resources Land and Water Conserver Conservation Grant Program. The project would be to construct a uh restroom at the west end of East Creek Trail off of Flippin Road. The total project cost is [2:50:40, 2:50:40]: [10240.9, 10244.4]: the other remaining requirement of cash cash or end time match. [2:50:44, 2:50:48]: Um the city has confirmed what we reserved in our splice account. [2:50:49, 2:50:50]: Um the grant [2:50:59, 2:51:01]: Fantastic. [2:51:02, 2:51:09]: Ms. Gantt go ahead please. Mayor, I move that we approve this land water conservation fund grant um application. [2:51:09, 2:51:24]: And uh and it requires a resolution and for the uh and for us also to direct staff to draft up a resolution for this approval. I second. Miss uh Miss uh Barber seconds that any further discussion? [2:51:25, 2:51:32]: Okay. All in favor, please indicate. All right, fantastic. Four. Four votes good. Thank you very much. Appreciate that. Outstanding. [2:51:33, 2:51:53]: Uh let's see, a council consideration approved purchase, uh one Ford Ranger, 28,565, and one Ford Edge SUV for 38,580. Understate contract nine nine nine nine-001. SPD 0000183-0001. [2:51:53, 2:52:01]: Funding source two 2023 capital improvement budget for police services presented by Chief Trammer. Please. [2:52:02, 2:52:02]: Yeah. [2:52:02, 2:52:03]: Evening, Chief. [2:52:07, 2:52:09]: Of those vehicles just worth probably forced to. [2:52:30, 2:52:50]: have a spare vehicle if something were to happen to one of those vehicles uh it were to go down so we're seeking council approval for that Ford Ranger for 28,000 that was in the capital improvement budget. Um we currently have uh just a little over 910 000 for vehicle purchases in the capital improvement uh budget and [2:52:50, 2:53:05]: And uh the remaining balance in that account is roughly$130,000. Everything else is being covered for. The other vehicle is for an unmarked vehicle for a member of our office, a member of our police department participating in the drug enforcement administration. [2:53:05, 2:53:25]: Task force we uh provide um an uh unmarked vehicle, UC vehicle for that uh particular position, and um we were able to get that uh Ford Edge from way forward that is currently um available uh at the moment. And the thing about this I think I mentioned too [2:53:25, 2:53:30]: to uh the effect of this in the uh in the item form is that we actually [2:53:38, 2:53:41]: Pay a five hundred dollar monthly V de goal. [2:53:41, 2:53:42]: Line must be [2:53:44, 2:53:44]: So [2:53:45, 2:53:48]: officer stays on the task force and participate and continue their relationship. [2:53:49, 2:53:52]: Um for three years the vehicle essentially we pay for hand. [2:53:52, 2:54:05]: coverage of our participation in that program. So uh this has been vetted by legal counsel these vehicles. Um the uh this is on uh state contract or under state contract we've referenced that here in the documents and questions I mean [2:54:06, 2:54:12]: Council, any question from Chief Tramor? Just the one question that I always ask, Chief. [2:54:13, 2:54:17]: That's right. When when are we moving in that direction? [2:54:17, 2:54:30]: We actually have some conversations that we're going to have with Mr. Stark, the Department of Strategic Plan, to look at the long-term replacement for the police fleet. [2:54:36, 2:54:37]: conversations. [2:54:38, 2:54:45]: or so we'll actually be putting together a plan to help lay up plans for uh replacement of those vehicles to incorporate electric in [2:54:46, 2:54:48]: And I just aren't reading one thing so. [2:54:50, 2:55:02]: Any question for the chief. And if not, I need a motion good for uh to uh go forward with this uh purchase. So move. Uh so move from uh Mr uh Alexander, is there a second? [2:55:02, 2:55:04]: Mr. Blount second then. All in favor, please indicate. [2:55:05, 2:55:07]: Unanimous decision. Thank you, Chief. Appreciate it. [2:55:07, 2:55:08]: Mm-hmm. [2:55:11, 2:55:23]: Council consideration to approve a contract for emergency services b uh emergency services for building permitting inspection services not to exceed six months, uh six month time frame. Ms. Carter, please. [2:55:31, 2:55:34]: Yeah, yes. Somehow I I'm thinking it's off. [2:55:34, 2:55:35]: It's back on. [2:55:35, 2:55:38]: Good evening, Mayor and Council members. Thank you so much. [2:55:39, 2:55:48]: So I'm gonna kinda whip through um my presentation. Um this is just a continuation um to wrap up the conversation around um [2:55:49, 2:55:59]: handling the building permitting inspections and civil engineering services for the department uh community development and um [2:55:59, 2:56:19]: We have a number of things to go through tonight. What I'm asking for currently is for a contract to be awarded to Bureau Veritas, North America Incorporated, for a six-month period to handle our building inspections plan review. [2:56:19, 2:56:38]: For any new projects that come into the city for a period of up to six months. This is to allow for us to advertise and start interviewing to hire in-house staff. Should that be the will of the council? But that is my Mr. Gardner's recommendation. [2:56:40, 2:57:00]: Uh we look at it as a way to um regroup and recoup some losses that we have lost as a result of having a consultant um paying you know upwards of 60 percent uh per month for split for revenues. So the request before you is to allow for um [2:57:00, 2:57:06]: the new contract to be awarded and you have the contracts before you and all the information regarding the quote. [2:57:07, 2:57:09]: Yeah, thank you. Questions, Council? [2:57:10, 2:57:11]: Mr. Blount, you have something. [2:57:12, 2:57:17]: The uh previous contract for these services has it expired. [2:57:17, 2:57:20]: Uh it will be expiring on April the twenty first. [2:57:20, 2:57:24]: On April twenty first. So if anything approved tonight it would not overlap any [2:57:25, 2:57:38]: It would overlap a few days because I've already worked with our current consulting on the offboarding and onboarding of the new company so that there can be established what new projects are underway to make sure there's continuity in services. [2:57:40, 2:57:41]: Okay. [2:57:42, 2:57:52]: Okay, any other questions, Council? Yes. Go right, Mr. Elsa. So this new vendor, what was the process behind uh vetting them, choosing them uh for this job? [2:57:52, 2:58:11]: So this particular company is one of several who uh submitted quotes. Um they have done work all over the region. Um uh Villarica, several other cities throughout the s the Metro Atlanta, and they have offices um nationwide and um in other uh continents across the world. [2:58:11, 2:58:12]: And um [2:58:13, 2:58:15]: I've taken a look at some of the things they've done online. [2:58:16, 2:58:31]: I've talked to some of the jurisdictions and believe they would be a a positive fit for us for this stopgap measure until we can bring in a uh in-house crew to be able to have some seamless um streamline operations. [2:58:32, 2:58:41]: Okay, can we have them come to the podium? Sure. I have uh uh Chris Honeycutt and also Daniel Elliott to come up and speak with you all. [2:58:44, 2:58:45]: Hi gentlemen doing. [2:58:45, 2:59:05]: How you doing, Mayor? How you doing, Council? I'm Chris Honeycutt. I'm the East Area Manager for Bureau of Eratas. Um, as she was saying, we do work for the city of Riverdale. Um, we are the building official for the city of Stonecrest as well, along with Barrow County, Oconee County, Watkinsville. [2:59:05, 2:59:20]: And numerous amounts in Georgia. Um we have two divisions in Pennsylvania, uh, three divisions in Texas, and we also have three, I believe, in Florida as well. Uh we've [2:59:20, 2:59:40]: Been consulting for a hundred and ninety-two years, I believe it is. Um I think it was 18, was it 1820? 28. So uh been at it for a while. Um Daniel you got anything to say? Nope. I think he had let me ask you a question. So right now [2:59:40, 2:59:51]: Now with this economy being what it is, um, what is your staffing situation? How many people are you do you have? How many people would you have to bring on and are you up or down? [2:59:52, 3:00:12]: So we have roughly thirty-five to thirty-six people within Georgia. Um, me as an area manager, I have six up under me along with a permit tech, which I believe that is one of the positions that you are inquiring on. Um, so we would not have to at this time bring on anybody for the six month emergency. [3:00:12, 3:00:23]: Um inquiry here. Uh if we move along through that, then we may have to look into bringing a permit tech on. But other than that, um [3:00:24, 3:00:27]: Building officials and inspectors, we are fully staffed. [3:00:28, 3:00:34]: Okay, so you normally have you said six people up under you, that's what you normally have in your area? [3:00:34, 3:00:43]: Yes, sir. That's what I have in just my area. Yes, sir. Okay. What it what what how many cities does your area are include? So we cover twelve jurisdictions right now. [3:00:44, 3:00:48]: So you have twelve jurisdictions that your six people cover. [3:00:48, 3:00:50]: Yes, sir. We provide um [3:00:51, 3:01:11]: For we provide multiple services in those areas. So some of those jurisdictions are just inspections. So that's fairly easy. Um like the city of um Stockbridge or excuse me, Stonecrest, uh we do build an official services, so that takes up a lot of my personal time. But [3:01:11, 3:01:15]: But uh a lot of those areas are just just inspections, so that's fairly easy. [3:01:16, 3:01:36]: Okay, so go you normally that that's the number that you normally have up under you. Is that number the same as it was in twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three? Have you added somebody? Absolutely. So in roughly twenty twenty two I had three people. Um and then from there we moved to six. So I mean we've we've been growing [3:01:36, 3:01:45]: Constantly. We're we're always looking just like everybody else, uh, because it is very hard to find qualified individuals in our field. Um, so [3:01:45, 3:01:58]: We are continually looking to grow if that's kinda what you're asking. So we're always trying to find somebody to bring'em on. One final question. Talk about the experience of the individuals on your team. [3:01:58, 3:02:18]: Yeah, absolutely. So we have um licensed electrical contractors to the state of Georgia. We have licensed HVAC contractors to the state of Georgia. We are all ICC certified uh in residential and commercial. Uh we have uh certified fire marshals, uh we have certified planners, uh certified [3:02:18, 3:02:38]: Building officials, uh, we have master code professionals, uh, we have almost anything the ICC offers, we have, and that is what the state of Georgia goes through. Okay, well what my getting at is that their tenure with you. So you've added the three people. So when did you add the three people and the lat the latest three and how long a day? [3:02:38, 3:02:45]: Uh the latest one was probably [3:02:46, 3:03:06]: October of last year, and that was an early career guy. Uh, we got him straight out of the Marine Corps. So we picked him up and have pretty much pushed him through the whole process. He's now fully residential certified. We're now working to get him uh commercial certified. But uh I mean I think uh early 2020. [3:03:06, 3:03:18]: twenty twenty two is when the other two came on. We picked both of those up at the same time uh from a a jurisdiction. Uh they wanted to leave there. Uh so last two, twenty twenty two. [3:03:19, 3:03:22]: Okay. All right. Thank you. Any other questions counsel at all? [3:03:23, 3:03:37]: All right, seeing none. So otherwise uh we need a motion to uh for the staff to go forward with this uh new company. May I afford. Yes, sir. So moved. Okay, Mr. uh Mr. Uh Thomas, sir second. Ms. uh Gantt second. All favor, please indicate. [3:03:38, 3:03:43]: Now it's decision. Thank you, Mayor, very much gentlemen. Appreciate it. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Council. Thank you. [3:03:46, 3:04:06]: Okay, council consideration to approve contract emergency services for civil engineering services not to exceed a six-month time frame. Ms. Carter, please. Yes, so a similar contract, uh, but for civil engineering and plan review and inspections. Um we have been working with a consultant who [3:04:06, 3:04:26]: Who has actually been one of the subcontractors for the current contractor we utilize? Um, and has uh Whitley Engineering. They familiarize themselves with a lot of the projects, have been very key in making sure that we stay in line with state code as it in regards to um soil um and and conservation uh [3:04:26, 3:04:46]: uh erosion control measures and we're trying to ensure that we keep those folks on staff in order to continue those services. The contract before you is to have up to six months for a contract for services for civil engineering that handles land disturbance reviews and [3:04:46, 3:05:06]: inspections, uh, meetings. Uh we a lot of times have meetings with new business owners, new developers who are bringing in new projects, but they need guidance, they want to put a face to the name so that they know who to contact for land uh development concerns or questions and what have you. So um [3:05:05, 3:05:14]: The request before you is to approve a similar contract for Whidley Engineering Incorporated for emergency services up to six months. [3:05:15, 3:05:18]: Okay, questions for Miss Carter, Council. [3:05:19, 3:05:20]: Mayor. Yes, Mayor. [3:05:20, 3:05:25]: I move that we approve. No, I I would question? Never mind. Go right answer. [3:05:27, 3:05:35]: I just hate to sound green. Is this the is it is the name of the company in there that you hire? I don't see it. Yes, it's uh Whitley Engineering Incorporated. [3:05:37, 3:05:41]: Is within your packet? Yeah, okay. [3:05:41, 3:06:01]: You s you say that this company is is worked out of what company? So uh Whitley En Engineering is the subcontractor under our current um larger contractor for building services. Currently, I do have Mark Whitley here who can speak a little bit about what he's done and and um the experience he has and what he [3:06:01, 3:06:11]: He's uh brought to the city. So s uh when you say the larger company, which company Um Safe Built. We currently contract with Safe Built. What? Oh, [3:06:13, 3:06:13]: Wait. [3:06:15, 3:06:17]: So they would say [3:06:17, 3:06:22]: I'm sorry, Mayor. Yes, ma'am, I'm sorry. So uh uh the company this company would say Phil? [3:06:23, 3:06:43]: They are a subcontractor. So they work separately but within under the same umbrella of building services. The way the contract was written originally, probably early 2021, before I came on, it was to have building permitting inspections and also a civil engineering firm. [3:06:43, 3:06:51]: As well. SafeBuild was not able to provide that as they had no one in-house, so they did provide a subcontractor to handle all of those services. [3:06:51, 3:06:52]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but [3:06:53, 3:06:58]: My concern with that for me is that that's common practice for [3:06:59, 3:07:19]: These companies that have subcontracts that they use that are under their umbrella, but how do you protect the city uh from any double dipping or or saying, hey, what's up? You out to the city? I mean, it's I I don't wanna get too deep into that. It's just interesting when we get companies that [3:07:19, 3:07:30]: that are sub contracted under contracts that we already have in place. It's kind of s interesting to me. [3:07:30, 3:07:50]: Mayor. Go ahead, please. Uh so who who do we have a contract with? Safe built or with Willie Engineering? We currently have a contract with SafeBuilt. Safe built contract and all subcontractors is ending April the twenty-first. Okay. Um and the subcontractor is uh Whitley Engineering who handles all the civil [3:07:50, 3:07:56]: engineering piece of all inspections, pre-construction meetings, plan reviews. [3:07:56, 3:08:02]: Um that are pivotal in making sure we bring a development on correctly according to state requirements. [3:08:02, 3:08:22]: So would we be directly contracting with them now? We're no longer contracting with Safe Bill. That is correct. Okay. But they have been doing our our inspections already. Yes, for erosion, only for erosion control. So our this contractor ahead of us handles only the construction, only the portion [3:08:22, 3:08:28]: Of the property that is land development, as prepping the land for any building to be built. [3:08:28, 3:08:31]: Safe built currently handles. [3:08:31, 3:08:38]: All the building inspections, all that when any piece of any property goes up, any buildings go up, bricks, what have you. [3:08:39, 3:08:45]: That's what Safe Bill typically does. And now Bureau Veritas will handle that in the interim. [3:08:45, 3:08:46]: Okay. [3:08:47, 3:08:48]: Oh, that's there. [3:08:48, 3:08:56]: Any other questions? So again, what was the process behind selecting this particular vendor to perform this service? [3:08:56, 3:09:16]: Well, when I um set out to at working with the um finance department to get quotes at all, a lot of them just did not have staff available for this particular use. They would also have to sub out um to someone else. And I said, Well, you know, we currently have services that are working very well for us and we're s [3:09:16, 3:09:28]: staying in in in uh lockstep with the state process, less work with who has been doing a great job at it and continue that so they can continue to move forward and provide that service for us. [3:09:33, 3:09:35]: Any other questions for Ms. Carter on this? [3:09:37, 3:09:50]: All right, then I need a motion to to s for accept um need a motion to accept this this new contractor. Mayor forward. Yes, sir. So moved. Okay. I second. Okay, from Mr Thomas to Miss Cann. All in favor please indicate. [3:09:50, 3:09:52]: Now Susan, thank you very much. [3:09:54, 3:10:03]: Thank you. All right. Council consideration adopt new job description for chief building off official full-time position. Ms. Carter, please. [3:10:03, 3:10:04]: Okay. [3:10:05, 3:10:07]: So as part of [3:10:08, 3:10:17]: This process um we just you all thank you for approving the two contracts. The objective of that is to allow for us to hire [3:10:18, 3:10:21]: Квалифа фос тобі або філда позиція см. [3:10:22, 3:10:25]: Три фултиме позиції офішал. [3:10:26, 3:10:46]: Uh, which is the first item we have, which would be the uh manager of the permitting inspections and and permit process. And we'd also have a building inspector that would be managed by the chief building official and the building permit technician that'll be handled under the building official. Um the building official. [3:10:46, 3:11:06]: The official primarily manages the permit processing and reviews and inspections. And I'm recommending this new position. The job description is as a result of, I want to say about two to three years ago, maybe 2019, it was a desire of this council to understand a little bit more about [3:11:06, 3:11:26]: um bringing this division in-house. And it allows for continuity, a little more efficiency and expediency in our processes. It allows us to be more accurate with reviews and we can say, hey everybody, let's get in a room and let's review this plan and we can move things forward. [3:11:26, 3:11:38]: Um so that is what I'm asking uh kind of one by one. This is for the chief building official position. Um you have the pay scale ahead of you, and I will pull up the [3:11:40, 3:11:42]: The organization chart. [3:11:52, 3:12:05]: Oh, that's already up. I'm not sure if you could make that up, but I'm gonna zoom into community development. Because this this um updated org chart, if approved. [3:12:06, 3:12:16]: would be incorporated with this proposed change. So the items in yellow would be new positions, the items in white are current, current positions. [3:12:17, 3:12:20]: Ms. Gann, go ahead, please. Has this been budgeted for already? [3:12:20, 3:12:40]: It has. It actually, um, if we're able to bring on these these folks full time by July one, we should work within our current budget and I would not need to come back uh to amend or to uh get any additional funds. Um it's just a matter if it does go past that and we go the six months. [3:12:40, 3:12:49]: It does depend on what we're putting out for the consultants that we may need just, you know, a little bit more additional funding, but it will be nominal. [3:12:49, 3:13:05]: Will our budget increase as of January one because we'll be there'll be full time and working the whole year? It will not, because even bringing on these four individuals, it still costs us less than we've been paying over the years for a consultant. [3:13:05, 3:13:07]: Okay, we've been paying sixty percent. [3:13:08, 3:13:21]: We're only paying fifty percent for the emergency services, and we'll be paying even less than that for um uh bringing folks on board. Our our out of pocket expense would be likely two trucks, two to three trucks. [3:13:22, 3:13:41]: When you said we were paying sixty percent, you mean the split the yes in the contract price was sixty forty. Correct. And then um seventy uh thirty in some instances, was it? It was it uh I wish it could be seventy thirty, but um sixty forty has been what it's been. We got I got it down to about fifty five percent. And now the even the emergency services is at fifty percent. [3:13:43, 3:14:03]: Mayor. Yes, sir. Go ahead please. Hey, I'm just gonna say listen, uh I don't know if we're ready for this. I think this would be a good idea, but are we ready to do this as a city? We've had several issues, we had some ongoing issues, and I'm not exactly sure we're ready for do to do it ourselves. [3:14:03, 3:14:09]: in the next six months. Uh maybe at some point we might be ready to do that. [3:14:09, 3:14:24]: Uh with some of the challenge that we've actually had. So, you know. I think I I I would like to do that, but I'd like to be a reassured that we're gonna do the job. Oh, I'm okay. [3:14:25, 3:14:26]: Mayor. Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. [3:14:27, 3:14:34]: Um I I'm in agreement with Mr. Alexander. We still have issues that haven't had oversight. [3:14:35, 3:14:39]: We still have issues that haven't been resolved even as of today. [3:14:40, 3:14:45]: Um you know, I'm when we when we contract [3:14:51, 3:15:03]: We we we when we contract because you w you don't want a quick fix for a long term issue, a long term process. And when we've done that [3:15:05, 3:15:07]: The city has gotten the short end of the stick. [3:15:08, 3:15:15]: Um and I'm not gonna go into details about that because it's not the place for it. But I I have a [3:15:15, 3:15:22]: I I I just I have a problem with some things, that's all. All right. Uh Mr Thomas, go ahead, please, sir. [3:15:22, 3:15:26]: Uh thank you and thank you, Mrs. Carter. Um [3:15:26, 3:15:28]: Uh the six months [3:15:29, 3:15:38]: We we have had the conversation uh over the last few years about bringing this in house and I think uh the research [3:15:39, 3:15:40]: uh prove then [3:15:41, 3:15:45]: And I asked you uh here recently about the same research. [3:15:45, 3:15:47]: And you went back and reviewed that. [3:15:47, 3:15:51]: And one thing that uh was true then and I think is true now. [3:15:52, 3:15:59]: When you bring staff in house and it showed too that there were uh a surplus in that. [3:15:59, 3:16:01]: But what you get is [3:16:02, 3:16:03]: The trainin [3:16:04, 3:16:05]: And the [3:16:06, 3:16:08]: Акаунтабеліті австаф. [3:16:08, 3:16:12]: when you bring folks in and I think that is [3:16:12, 3:16:14]: Uh what I see [3:16:14, 3:16:20]: And that is what I'm looking forward, to be able to bring staff in, train them. [3:16:21, 3:16:32]: and hold them accountable to the job. So that's why I'm in favor. And I was in favor then. Uh the research proved that to be a fact. And um so [3:16:32, 3:16:39]: Uh without any other questions, um mayor and council, uh I move to to approve. [3:16:40, 3:16:41]: Yeah, I do have one more. [3:16:42, 3:16:50]: Stand stand by one second. Motion has been made to move to improved. Is there a second? Miss Barber second that I second, but I have a comment, please, sir. [3:16:51, 3:16:55]: All right. Okay. I was gonna go back to Mr. Blount here, but go ahead. [3:16:55, 3:17:02]: I'm sorry. Go ahead, Councilman Blood. Go ahead, Ms. Blood. Uh vote for it. For me [3:17:03, 3:17:09]: Th when we look at approving these positions, when we look at moving around [3:17:10, 3:17:13]: Um when we're filling positions [3:17:14, 3:17:18]: that there were reluctance and or whatever and the the positions that we're filling. [3:17:20, 3:17:24]: Um, I think that some things that we're discussing now [3:17:24, 3:17:30]: It sh we should have had more discussion behind closed door because this does become a com uh uh um [3:17:31, 3:17:51]: a a a hiring position and it does become open for the discussion. Um I don't want to sit here and I would never sit here and uh belittle uh any staff, at least try not to anyway. Um but I have concerns when we're adding positions [3:17:51, 3:17:52]: Yeah. [3:17:53, 3:17:58]: to feel positions that was so long deficient. [3:17:59, 3:18:02]: My greatest concern has always been in this city. [3:18:03, 3:18:04]: Is being proactive. [3:18:05, 3:18:06]: And oversight. [3:18:07, 3:18:08]: Accountability. [3:18:09, 3:18:11]: Transparency, all of those things. [3:18:11, 3:18:16]: Make the city successful in every department, even among us as council members. [3:18:17, 3:18:18]: So for me [3:18:19, 3:18:22]: To put these positions on right now. [3:18:22, 3:18:28]: I think for me I would need further discussions on these positions and stuff behind closed doors. [3:18:28, 3:18:30]: Mayor Pro Tem Barber, go ahead, please. [3:18:31, 3:18:31]: Yeah. [3:18:33, 3:18:33]: Um [3:18:34, 3:18:36]: I was just gonna make mention that this is [3:18:36, 3:18:38]: For emergency services. [3:18:39, 3:18:42]: And because this is a emergency situation. [3:18:43, 3:18:43]: Um [3:18:43, 3:18:44]: The six month. [3:18:45, 3:18:46]: Contracts that we have with [3:18:47, 3:18:48]: The consulting services. [3:18:49, 3:18:51]: Not consulting, but service. [3:18:51, 3:18:53]: contracts that we have with [3:18:55, 3:18:57]: This company this company, I'm sorry. [3:18:57, 3:18:58]: Um [3:18:58, 3:19:00]: I would like to see us do a one year [3:19:01, 3:19:04]: contract with the both of them. I don't know if they are interested in that. [3:19:05, 3:19:06]: And after six months then we can [3:19:07, 3:19:08]: Evaluate. [3:19:08, 3:19:10]: Веде орнат ви речі. [3:19:12, 3:19:13]: to kind of bring this in house. [3:19:14, 3:19:16]: Um I just want us to be [3:19:17, 3:19:18]: Ready. [3:19:19, 3:19:23]: Um we've had some issues over the past three years since I've been here. [3:19:25, 3:19:27]: A lot of it has been internal issues. [3:19:29, 3:19:31]: So I just want to make sure that we're ready. [3:19:31, 3:19:34]: I know we've already approved the six month contracts. [3:19:35, 3:19:38]: I am in support of what you recommend. [3:19:39, 3:19:44]: with bringing these positions in house here, I just want to make sure that we're ready. [3:19:46, 3:19:46]: No, no. [3:19:47, 3:20:04]: Go ahead, sir. Yeah, what what I'm saying is to Councilwoman Barber's point, which is that we would bring this back in six months to just see what we look like from our standpoint. Cause we got people on our side of this pendulum too. [3:20:05, 3:20:25]: And they contracted got people on their side. So after six months, we would come back, we would reevaluate our readiness to move forward. And then after that thin point, we could extend for another six months if we needed to, or we could move forward with it uh at that point. Cause right now I think we just hired [3:20:25, 3:20:35]: somebody on our side um of that uh of the equation and those people are getting up uh to where they need to be. [3:20:36, 3:20:41]: All right. If there's no other comment, the motion was made and seconded, so all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [3:20:42, 3:20:44]: One, two. [3:20:45, 3:20:46]: Opposed. [3:20:48, 3:20:48]: Okay. [3:20:49, 3:20:53]: Two okay, two, two. You you vote in four? What do you say? [3:20:53, 3:21:04]: I'm sorry, I'm I'm looking at this. If we're the we're voting about the chief building official. I'm in opposition. You're in opposition. Once again, all in favor, let's do this again. Make sure we got it right. All in favor of the motion. [3:21:06, 3:21:11]: Two. All all polls. Three. So the motion fails. Two, three. Okay. [3:21:11, 3:21:31]: Mayor. Yes, sir. I'd like to make a motion to for the rest of the table, the next the next items coming up, and just repeat what we just did, which was bring them, which was deny them and then bring them back. So you're you're referring to the building inspector, the permit technician, and the civil engineer, which is a part. [3:21:31, 3:21:33]: Is that what you're referring to? [3:21:34, 3:21:44]: Yes, I mean there's no need in um at this point I don't think we've we've already made a decision on the one really that could have been brought forward as a package, but that's kinda where we are now. [3:21:44, 3:22:00]: Councilman Alexander, Mayor Ford, if I may, um I do understand the concern. Um is it possible that you would consider um approving the positions with no dollars attached to them that way if [3:22:00, 3:22:19]: within the six month period if we come back and determine we do want to move forward with bringing it in house. We don't have to wait another month or so just to get the job on the agenda and posted. Um that will take us additional time to do um interviewing and all of that. Is it possible that you all will be amenable to that? [3:22:20, 3:22:40]: I'm I'm personally fine with the recommendation and I don't know what the rest of the council's thinking here. Yeah, I'm fine with that. But he's making a motion. I just wanted to. Okay, you're Miss Barber's fine with that. I am fine with your recommendation, Ms. Carter. Okay, Mr. Alexander? No, I'm not. No, he's not, Miss McCann. I I have a question about it. [3:22:40, 3:22:43]: You're asking that we approve the job descriptions. [3:22:44, 3:23:01]: So that the positions are available, but we've already approved these positions already, correct? No. The position the positions are brand new. So we would have to just approve the job description. Um if there are no dollars tied to it at this time, then we wouldn't put it out for hiring. [3:23:03, 3:23:06]: I don't wanna do that and we have a budget [3:23:06, 3:23:10]: We we have budget meetings or whatever the case may be. [3:23:10, 3:23:11]: I don't think I want [3:23:13, 3:23:23]: to do that prematurely because even if we are taking off the dollar amount, when we are ready to advertise or put those positions out there. [3:23:24, 3:23:44]: We're gonna have to do all this anyway, right? We're gonna have to present you're gonna have to present these descriptions, chart and dollar amount, pay scale, anyway, correct? Like when we get ready to put it out there? Well typically if there are positions that are held and I'll defer to the city manager on positions that [3:23:44, 3:23:57]: even though they are on the books, there may be no money tied to them and they're frozen until a particular time where they'll be unfrozen and then we can utilize them and and uh connect dollars to them. [3:23:58, 3:24:00]: Okay. Mr. Blount. [3:24:01, 3:24:08]: For me, um I I I'm with Mr Alexander that we table these three because for me we just had a retreat. [3:24:09, 3:24:11]: And we're talking about changing the oral chart. [3:24:11, 3:24:12]: That's gonna affect the budget. [3:24:13, 3:24:33]: That's gonna move people around, that's gonna have oversight that I oversight and in different positions. I think further discussion need to be had with this because bringing this forth now, without first of all, without any funding numbers, and if we do this before then, then we won't have to do this now. I think that it convolutes the whole [3:24:33, 3:24:53]: Whole situation and we find ourselves in such a conundrum that we can't get back out of because we made a decision today to move forward with uh basically saying, hey, uh something else is gonna happen beyond now. And if, if, if, if I think we need to table this and we need to have further discussions about that, maybe some of that discussion need to [3:24:53, 3:24:56]: To be uh had behind closed doors also. [3:24:57, 3:25:04]: All right. So yeah, ms go ahead, Ms. Thompson. Uh Mayor Ford and Council. Um positions [3:25:05, 3:25:06]: Can be approved. [3:25:07, 3:25:10]: А злом із дена філд. [3:25:10, 3:25:12]: There's no money attached. [3:25:12, 3:25:16]: But positions can be approved. Thank you. [3:25:16, 3:25:17]: Right. [3:25:18, 3:25:38]: All right, so we've got a couple of different things. We want more approved positions, put the recommendation a potential recommendation from Miss Carter, or you can lump them all together and uh table all all the items. I would might want to double check with the attorney, make sure we can all lump them together to one motion to do all that though, even though they're on here as individuals. So I need for you to weigh in on that. [3:25:38, 3:25:38]: Yes sir. [3:25:40, 3:25:40]: Just need to out. [3:25:42, 3:25:43]: Okay. [3:25:46, 3:25:48]: Okay. Thank you, sir. Mr. Blount, go ahead. [3:25:49, 3:25:49]: Um [3:25:51, 3:26:02]: We have a lot of power to do something up here. We because we can do we have the right to do something and always doesn't always make it the right thing to do. [3:26:02, 3:26:03]: For me [3:26:04, 3:26:07]: The right thing for me to do is to discuss this further because [3:26:08, 3:26:10]: Once we approve positions we [3:26:10, 3:26:30]: We put a lot of this in staff's hand that we shouldn't even be dealing with as elected officials anyway when it comes to how much this person's gonna make and this and that. There's a lot that goes in the staff hand after we approve this. I got problems approving this, and this is where my where I come in, this one individual. This is why I agree with Mr. Alexander. We need to table this. [3:26:30, 3:26:40]: and have further discussions on it and have a plan in place and what this c what kinda hit this gonna do to the to to our budget and what what's gonna be needed. [3:26:40, 3:26:43]: I it's too many ins and outs for me right now. [3:26:43, 3:26:49]: All right. All right, Council. Then if that's the case I need a motion uh to reflect uh your desires here. [3:26:50, 3:26:53]: What's the motion? Mayor sir. [3:26:53, 3:26:56]: Or Ms. Anderson. Someone need a motion, please. [3:26:56, 3:27:16]: Yes, sir. I want to make a motion in accordance with what the city um attorney had recommended, which is tabling all three of this in reference to the uh index numbers that are attached to the next three. Fourteen, fifteen, and sixteen. Okay. Is there a second motion? Second. Mr. Blount's second. [3:27:16, 3:27:18]: Yes ma'am, yes ma'am. [3:27:19, 3:27:24]: Does that not include item number thirteen? It's also a motion to adopt the job description. [3:27:26, 3:27:32]: Uh we we already made a decision on thirteenth though. I'm sorry. We already made a decision on thirteenth, I thought. [3:27:32, 3:27:37]: It the motion failed to adopt it, but are is that not being tabled as well? That is the question. [3:27:38, 3:27:41]: If we did not vote I'll add number thirteen to it. [3:27:42, 3:27:54]: Well we made a we made a I don't know. I thought we did. We already made a motion on that. We already approved it, made a motion. Thirteen is only a job description. It's not it's it's if you never approved a position, you just got a job description in place. [3:27:54, 3:27:55]: The job job. [3:27:59, 3:27:59]: Yeah. [3:28:00, 3:28:01]: Yeah. [3:28:01, 3:28:13]: Well, if that's the case or we didn't, I thought we did, I will add thirteen to that. Okay, wait a minute. We got we s we have there's an action we have to take. We just can't arbitrary uh make another motion on this. Is uh is thirteen a new position? [3:28:15, 3:28:25]: It is. Okay. Thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, and sixteen are they all new positions though. I'm for table and all. Okay. Okay so the motion was made by originally who? [3:28:25, 3:28:26]: Myself. I'm thirteen. [3:28:27, 3:28:37]: Oh, you made the motion on thirteen? And and s okay, so otherwise if you made a motion on thirteen, Mr Attorney, if he wants to retract that, I guess I guess we can we can do it that way? [3:28:38, 3:28:47]: Uh to a while you wanted a you wanted a amend I guess change the motion or amend it to add thirteen to to number fourteen, fifteen, sixteen. We already voted on thirteen previously. [3:28:52, 3:29:06]: Oh that's right, it did that's right, that's right. That and I need to talk to the clerk. That's right, it did fail. I'm sorry. No wonder, that's why she asked that question. Oh it did fail. Okay, so otherwise, uh we can automatically just add that to the other the other motion with the other three items. [3:29:07, 3:29:12]: Okay. Go ahead please. I'm sorry. Yes, I amended it to add thirteen. Okay. Is that s uh who's second that motion? [3:29:13, 3:29:15]: I did, sir. Okay, Mr. Blount? [3:29:15, 3:29:21]: Okay. So I'm so otherwise the motion is I I would imagine you have this, uh Miss Clerk. [3:29:21, 3:29:33]: Okay. So all in favor of motion uh to table thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, and sixteen. I need okay. I need a motion. All in favor, please. Indicate. [3:29:33, 3:29:39]: I had a question, sir. I'm sorry. Wanted to know when we're tabling it until when? [3:29:40, 3:29:41]: When is this coming back? [3:29:42, 3:29:55]: We're we table this, we have a a a temporary contract for the six month period that we have. We will reevaluate after six months to determine whether we're ready. [3:29:55, 3:29:58]: That's with the contractors. [3:29:59, 3:29:59]: But you're [3:30:00, 3:30:02]: The purpose of this motion [3:30:03, 3:30:23]: Is for the new job descriptions. Right, the same thing. We're tabling this till indefinitely. As I said when I made the mo the first one is that we will come back to this in six months and we will evaluate whether we are ready or not. And the at the [3:30:23, 3:30:30]: six month period when they're when it's time to well we need to renew for another six months or we need to move into another direction. [3:30:33, 3:30:33]: Um [3:30:35, 3:30:37]: Okay, so then [3:30:37, 3:30:39]: After the six months. [3:30:40, 3:30:41]: We'll be able to determine [3:30:42, 3:30:45]: Whether or not we are happy with the service. [3:30:45, 3:30:47]: or quality of services that we're getting. [3:30:48, 3:30:49]: From these two. [3:30:49, 3:30:50]: Contractors. [3:30:50, 3:30:52]: But it still doesn't address the fact that [3:30:53, 3:30:55]: She needs new job descriptions. [3:30:55, 3:30:57]: Those new job descriptions. [3:30:57, 3:30:59]: Will need to be posted. [3:30:59, 3:31:00]: And advertised. [3:31:01, 3:31:02]: After that. [3:31:03, 3:31:05]: So why would you wait six months? [3:31:06, 3:31:26]: For the contribution of the case. We can bring it back at any time we want we can bring it back at any time we want to. Can we staff can put it on the agenda? Uh we can put it on the agenda. I put the six months in because it runs concurrent with with with our agreement where we will always have protection at that point. But the council can bring it back or the staff can bring it back. [3:31:26, 3:31:29]: [12690.0, 12692.0]: Bring the job description back in [3:31:32, 3:31:33]: Three months. [3:31:33, 3:31:37]: I I've said the statement that I'm g I've made the motion already. [3:31:37, 3:31:50]: I'll abstain. Okay, well first of all before you do that, ma may I want to make sure uh uh clerk has this proper before we take another vote on this. So what do you have, ma madam clerk? Well I'm having the motion to table item number thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, and sixteen. [3:31:52, 3:31:58]: for six months to be evaluated and brought back to the council at that time. [3:31:59, 3:32:07]: Mr. Mr. Alexander, is that correct? That's correct. Okay. On that note, uh ladies and gentlemen, council, um I need uh all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [3:32:09, 3:32:10]: Of opposed? [3:32:10, 3:32:18]: Okay, pose. Okay, so three, one, and you sustain, right? So three, one, one, motion pass. Three, one, one. [3:32:18, 3:32:20]: And um okay. [3:32:21, 3:32:30]: Ms. Carter, thank you very much. Thank you. All right, uh what I have here, council consideration to fill a vacancy and appoint a member of the downtown development authority presented by Mr. Washington. [3:32:33, 3:32:47]: Now once again, this is this typically we do these we dive done these in the past in in a zechular session, then come back out of a Zekir session for this, but I think there's only one person that is on this particular list. And [3:32:50, 3:32:52]: I have to admit I don't even know this gentleman. [3:33:17, 3:33:27]: We have one applicant for the appointment mayor and council. That person is Mr. Antonio Gordon, who's a uh head of business of barbershop owner here in Stockbridge, Georgia. [3:33:30, 3:33:33]: All right, I believe this is to be on the ethics committee, I believe it is. [3:33:35, 3:33:36]: Board of Ethics. [3:33:37, 3:33:38]: That's what it says here, right? [3:33:40, 3:33:45]: The downtown development authority. Downtown, okay. For downtown, okay. Where? [3:33:45, 3:33:47]: On application says something different. [3:33:48, 3:33:49]: Okay. [3:33:54, 3:33:54]: Mayor. [3:33:54, 3:34:00]: Yes sir. Yes ma'am, I'm sorry. But it's also included. [3:34:01, 3:34:18]: Okay. The final position for the Board of Ethics has to be appointed by the mayor. That has not been selected, but the applicant did make the request to be considered for any other board that had an opening. And that is why he has been presented to the council for this position. [3:34:19, 3:34:21]: And of course this business is right in the downtown area. [3:34:22, 3:34:24]: Yeah, it's on page three, he's willing to work any if available. [3:34:26, 3:34:28]: Okay. All right. [3:34:29, 3:34:35]: All right, Council Sol anything else to add, sir? No. Okay, I'm sorry. Questions? [3:34:35, 3:34:37]: Mayor. Yes yes, Mayor. [3:34:38, 3:34:55]: Go ahead, Councilman. You you're on the board of DEA. I just wanted to ask a question. I just I just I just didn't I'm sorry I d wasn't aware that this was coming up tonight. Was there some discussion uh already um with the applicant or just the qualifications have already been verified? [3:34:57, 3:35:07]: The application was submitted to the mayor and council, the D D A chair as well. Mm-hmm. Okay, so the the D D A chair has already reviewed it. [3:35:08, 3:35:11]: It was submitted to the DDA chair. [3:35:12, 3:35:32]: Well did you you want to double check with him or or uh what's Yeah let's let's do that. Let's follow let me follow up with uh uh the DDA chair because you know we know what he's been going through and we need to see whether or not uh he's had time to to chime in on the application. So your suggestion is to table it. Okay, sir. [3:35:32, 3:35:43]: Well if that's if that's what you'd like to do, uh then make a motion to that sir. Sir, I'd like to make a motion to table this appointment to consult with the D DA board and chair. Is there a second then motion? [3:35:44, 3:35:45]: Is [3:35:45, 3:35:46]: Is there a second to the motion? [3:35:47, 3:35:50]: I second. Okay, Miss Gand seconds the motion. [3:35:50, 3:35:53]: You have some apprehension there, Miss K well I I [3:35:53, 3:36:08]: This goes to show that even if we only have one applicant, we still need executive sessions. I don't I don't like the way this went. That's all. Uh well what am I? He's gonna talk further with the with the DDH chair, so uh and we'll go from there. All in favor of the motion please uh indicate. [3:36:08, 3:36:13]: All in favor? Okay, thank you very much. Okay, what's next? Uh [3:36:13, 3:36:19]: Uh, Mr. Quentin, mister Washington, is stop bridge amber theater alcohol policy, sir. [3:36:20, 3:36:21]: No ordinance. [3:36:26, 3:36:28]: Yes, Mayor and Council coming out of the retreat. [3:36:28, 3:36:29]: This was the [3:36:31, 3:36:44]: ordinance that you all requested. The only change that we would have on there is to match up to what is on the website about the seven quarts. That's not eight by eight, that's twelve by twelve coolers. [3:36:45, 3:36:56]: And so I we talked with Chief Chairman about it. It's a twelve by twelve cooler to be able to bring in alcohol and we just asked for that to be an amendment that you all would adopt for the ordinance. [3:36:59, 3:37:02]: And this is all outlined in uh number D, right? [3:37:02, 3:37:03]: Yeah, fine. [3:37:06, 3:37:11]: And this is to allow alcohol, outside alcohol for our concerts. [3:37:11, 3:37:14]: Was this provided to us before? [3:37:14, 3:37:15]: Today. [3:37:16, 3:37:18]: Is that I didn't get this until today. [3:37:21, 3:37:22]: Mr. Washington. [3:37:23, 3:37:23]: Okay. [3:37:24, 3:37:29]: Was this just provided to us at the start of the meeting? Yes, it was. Okay. I'll be abstaining again. Okay. [3:37:32, 3:37:52]: Well t this is uh well she wants to sustain, but let me mention this to the council now, just is so you have food for thought, I suppose. I have to admit I'm not in favor of this ordinance. And since it is a ordinance, um I do have by the charter I do have the power to under Mayor's power to uh veto and so uh [3:37:52, 3:38:12]: I will tell you that uh if by chance this ordinance passes with a minimum of three votes, I will veto the bill. I will veto it. All right. So and of course if I do that, then it takes four to overturn my veto. That's the checks and balances. So I just want you to know that at this point uh that that is m that's my thoughts and that's [3:38:12, 3:38:22]: That's my that'll be my action. So it's up to the council how you want to proceed and then and then however you proceed may may may cause me to do something. Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. [3:38:23, 3:38:26]: I I guess my only concern is [3:38:27, 3:38:30]: What we have advertised on the website and [3:38:31, 3:38:36]: The premise that uh concert goers help purchase tickets. [3:38:37, 3:38:41]: Да дасмали концервов ні чангес. [3:38:42, 3:38:44]: to the premise that [3:38:44, 3:38:45]: Um [3:38:46, 3:38:48]: People that purchased our tickets. [3:38:49, 3:38:52]: And I think we just need to be a little cautious on that. [3:38:53, 3:38:56]: Um and that that's my only concern. [3:38:56, 3:38:58]: Okay. Mayor. Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. Uh uh. [3:38:58, 3:39:03]: I concur with that. I think we went back and forth about this for a little while. Um [3:39:04, 3:39:05]: Last year. [3:39:07, 3:39:18]: All we kept telling everybody, even when they couldn't even bring a bottle bottle of water in, uh I saw many of these, many council members, several council members amongst myself, [3:39:18, 3:39:24]: Being very apologetic about the way the amphitheater was being ran last year. Let's just be honest. [3:39:25, 3:39:27]: And everything that we told them [3:39:27, 3:39:29]: That was gonna happen this year. [3:39:29, 3:39:32]: And I agree with uh Mr. Thomas. [3:39:32, 3:39:33]: Because [3:39:33, 3:39:36]: I'm gonna if I buy a ticket. [3:39:37, 3:39:38]: Expecting the [3:39:38, 3:39:42]: go into a suite and I get there and it's a one bedroom with no bed. [3:39:43, 3:39:45]: Uh that ain't what I purchased. [3:39:45, 3:39:50]: People purchased an experience at the amphitheater that we said we was gonna do. [3:39:50, 3:39:54]: And then at the ninth hour to say, Well, if they don't want it, we're gonna [3:39:55, 3:40:00]: This this empathy is continually trying to find his way and try to find identity. [3:40:00, 3:40:10]: And I was hoping that this year would be one that we find identity. And and through this year, if it doesn't something doesn't work, now we see. Now we actually see because [3:40:11, 3:40:13]: Of things that are put in place right now. [3:40:14, 3:40:21]: But I'm for it because of what we've put out and what we've said and we have a concert next week. [3:40:22, 3:40:23]: Next week. [3:40:23, 3:40:25]: And the talk has been [3:40:25, 3:40:45]: The city of Stockbridge is not like it was used uh I heard it's not gonna be like it was last year. I just wanna put that out there. Okay. And let me just say I think procedurally, and I talked with the chief and and Mr. Young who's over the amphitheater, if you were to use your veto on this one, my understanding is that it would take effect for the second concert, is that correct? [3:40:45, 3:40:46]: Not this one. [3:40:47, 3:40:51]: So it's the same concept of those going forward from there unless it was overturned. Okay. [3:40:52, 3:40:53]: Understand. Thank you. [3:40:53, 3:40:55]: Wait a minute. [3:40:55, 3:40:57]: What what what I'm sorry? [3:40:57, 3:41:17]: But because this concert the concert tickets have been sold and advertised. I'm talking with Chief Trammer and with Mr. Young, and if you want them to explain they're here, that the if he were to veto it, the veto would take effect after this concert. What'd he vetoed it tomorrow? So I mean [3:41:17, 3:41:21]: [13282.4, 13283.4]: So when you [3:41:27, 3:41:33]: Right. But there's already been a contract created between the people and [3:41:33, 3:41:35]: Well if [3:41:35, 3:41:38]: If Yuan wanted to, he'd the b he would still have a veto. [3:41:39, 3:41:42]: Yeah, if you want it he would still have the veto, but [3:41:43, 3:42:00]: they would not be able to get the information out to the individuals that would be trying to bring alcohol in in enough time for this concert. And so they were thinking that on the administrative side that they would be able to make it in effect for the second concert as opposed to this first one is coming up. [3:42:01, 3:42:11]: And a second concert this year happens to be Mother's Day weekend with Maxwell on the thirteenth and fourteenth of May. Is that right? So that's roughly a month, the thirty days difference in time. Mm-hmm. Maybe for it. Yes, sir. [3:42:12, 3:42:15]: I I I still have the same issue and and I don't know [3:42:16, 3:42:36]: Who bought tickets or when. I know that the Maxwell tickets went on sale one particular Friday and people came and rushed and and purchased those tickets. So I I I just still have the same concern that that you know concert girls have purchased tickets. [3:42:36, 3:42:40]: under the premise that we have stated uh on the website and [3:42:40, 3:42:41]: I just don't concern if [3:42:42, 3:42:44]: If we had sort of decided [3:42:44, 3:42:50]: During the off season, coming into January, we were gonna take a position. I'd have been fine with that. [3:42:50, 3:42:53]: But but for us to to flip flop and [3:42:54, 3:43:14]: to appear disorganized. That's just that's just a problem that I have with all of that. Sir. Yes sir. Go ahead please. Um in in the beginning, no one authorized this to be put on the website. So let's go back to there. Okay. The change was made, but I I'm not sure how the change was approved. We talked about it. [3:43:14, 3:43:34]: We had a vote. Uh there was a three to two, I think a three vote um decision that was made on the item. I think we talked about general liability and some other items that were concerned with that. So my position is I'm I certainly I think based on what you discussed, I'm certainly not for it. [3:43:35, 3:43:55]: Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. Um, if I'm not mistaken, um the consultant met with um all of the council members through Zoom. I I recall the conversation, and I I don't I don't know what um his [3:43:55, 3:44:15]: contract call for in in this particular manner? Uh it may and it may not, but I do recall uh the conversation uh during the Zoom call. I I can't speak to what that vote was or even if it was a vote. Maybe Mr. Young could respond to that. But but again, uh it's [3:44:15, 3:44:25]: It's on the website, that's the bottom line. It's on the website and and people have purchased the tickets uh under that premise, regardless of how it happened, is is is there. [3:44:26, 3:44:43]: Mayor. Yes, sir. Th someone spoke I mean, uh the attorney spoke for Chief Tramer. I I didn't uh I don't know if he wants to get fooled into this or not, but at the same time did you s uh uh uh were those your thoughts that were conveyed here at the podium? [3:44:52, 3:45:12]: Mayor Mayor Ford just take a vote. I I would I would defer to um legal and um to Mr. Young with the uh management company. My position is is we're here to enforce whatever um guidelines are put in place uh for the amphitheater, whether that's [3:45:12, 3:45:32]: you decide to admit it or uh you decide not and that's our position. All right. Thank you. Exactly. And so okay. Okay, I tell you what, we we got we have the ordinance here and uh so what amounts to I need a motion to whether or not uh we're gonna accept this uh this ordinance change dealing with the alcohol [3:45:32, 3:45:38]: being brought in at Tampa Theater or not. Well, is there a motion? We don't want to hear from Mr. Young. [3:45:39, 3:45:51]: Okay, I'm sorry. Excuse me. Mr. Young? Come to the podium, sir. Okay. I don't need to talk to Mr. Young. Mr. Come on, Mr. Young. [3:45:55, 3:45:57]: Good evening. Evening. [3:45:57, 3:45:58]: Happy you're here. [3:45:59, 3:46:19]: I'm happy to be here, sir. Yes, sir. So as a consultant, sir, what are your thoughts, sir? Back in January when we had the Zoom call, I spoke to every council. We had three, two um calls, and it was uh stated that we will allow alcohol to be brought [3:46:18, 3:46:20]: Yeah. [3:46:20, 3:46:33]: Um that's why it's on the website. All the all everything that came out of that meeting is on the website. That's what's been stated. Um so that's how it came up, Mr. Alexander. [3:46:34, 3:46:54]: So who you said has been stated, who stated it that it was approved? But I broke but we met this section and that section. So we didn't do it a c uh so whoever th whatever the three said it at that time when I brought it up, even I I [3:46:54, 3:47:00]: I discussed it on both calls. Okay, so what you're saying is there was no vote, there was just correct. [3:47:00, 3:47:15]: Did I have to have an official vote? I'm just saying you s I'm just saying stating the fact I did not have a vote. I don't I know you said you got a consensus there wasn't a vote. Right, yes sir. Thank you. Just the facts. No pa, no pa yes sir. Anything else? [3:47:15, 3:47:29]: All right, so on that note, ordinance has been brought forward by m Mr. Washington. Mr. Harold uh young just spoke. So so I need a motion to accept this particular ordinance change involving bringing in alcohol to the amphitheater for this season. [3:47:30, 3:47:32]: There is there acceptance of this motion? [3:47:33, 3:47:34]: Mayor. Yes, Mayor. [3:47:35, 3:47:39]: Well go ahead, uh council well I wanted I just wanted to make a comment before we even take a vote. [3:47:40, 3:47:50]: Concert tickets have been sold not just for this first show but throughout. That's correct. At the purchase of a concert ticket at that time a contract [3:47:52, 3:48:05]: Per each individual person who has purchased a ticket has been made. They exchange money for their ticket as well as for all the amenities and everything else that's included in their disclosure. [3:48:07, 3:48:22]: Mayor and Council needs to understand that. Okay. And that's what I'm saying. We we have to be, you know, careful with that. And I I think that um whether we you know I don't know what tickets are open right now. [3:48:23, 3:48:32]: we put a halt or whatever the case may be for the next show until we get all this ironed out. However we wanna do it. Not halt the show, but you know, however we wanna do it. But for now [3:48:33, 3:48:38]: At least through Maxwell from what I'm hearing and maybe even Monica or I dun I don't know from others. [3:48:39, 3:48:41]: We've already established [3:48:42, 3:48:43]: Some rules here and [3:48:44, 3:48:46]: We had a vote. [3:48:46, 3:48:48]: I believe we had a vote. [3:48:49, 3:48:49]: Already heard. [3:48:50, 3:48:54]: During the retreat. And if we did not [3:48:54, 3:48:55]: If we did not [3:48:56, 3:48:59]: Um, I believe we had a official vote during the retreat. [3:48:59, 3:49:02]: Which is an open meeting, a public meeting. [3:49:03, 3:49:04]: Um so [3:49:05, 3:49:07]: at that point in time. [3:49:07, 3:49:27]: And I I I honestly believe that we need to follow the process and procedures that we have in place for now and maybe work on this um halfway through from those shows that have not been announced or in sales. I think we can kinda do something at that point. [3:49:27, 3:49:27]: Yeah. [3:49:28, 3:49:29]: That's it. [3:49:29, 3:49:34]: I still need a motion whether or not we're gonna accept this uh ordinance change or not. [3:49:35, 3:49:36]: Yes, sir. [3:49:37, 3:49:55]: I'd like to make that motion but I wanna make sure, well, not necessarily to make the motion, but when the motion is made, I want the size of the cooler to be included in the motion. And that that is uh twelve inches by twelve inches, is that what it is? All right, so then five inch. No, no, no. He wants to change it to twelve inches. [3:49:56, 3:49:58]: Oh. [3:50:02, 3:50:04]: Okay. [3:50:05, 3:50:10]: All right. I mean, whoever makes a motion can can add that in there for for the vote. [3:50:12, 3:50:13]: He's making it. Is there a motion? [3:50:16, 3:50:18]: You want go ahead. [3:50:19, 3:50:34]: So I would like to make a motion that any alcohol beverages brought well, uh make a motion that we approve the ordinance provide for an exception to the restrictions of the possessions of consumption of alcohol beverages at Stockbridge Amphitheater and for the perp and and for the purposes listed. [3:50:34, 3:50:38]: um to include a twelve with the amendment on D [3:50:38, 3:50:39]: Page two [3:50:40, 3:50:48]: Um any alcohol brought into the amphitheater must be in a cooler not larger than twelve by twelve, only one cooler per patron allowed. [3:50:48, 3:50:54]: I second. Okay. Um okay, Mr. Um Thomas, second that motion. [3:50:55, 3:50:56]: All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [3:50:59, 3:51:00]: I'll pose. [3:51:00, 3:51:01]: Of staying. [3:51:02, 3:51:22]: Okay, it's three one one and as I three one one and as I mentioned before I will veto this ordinance. So I need to go through the process of official veto. I will veto it. I I'm I wasn't playing with that. So I'll veto it. And then of course uh the council can override once I officially do that with the pro proper paperwork, then the council will override the veto with four affirmative. [3:51:22, 3:51:23]: Yeah. [3:51:23, 3:51:36]: Now, so on that note, um we'll start the veto process or documentation effectively tomorrow. I'll be in tomorrow to take care of that. Unless you got some other guidance for me, Mr. Sir. I've got ordinance on that. [3:51:37, 3:51:38]: Yeah, so not meeting. [3:51:39, 3:51:40]: Uh [3:51:47, 3:51:57]: On that note, we'll move on to uh announcements and upcoming events. Council meetings will be held. City Council Chamber's noting some board and committee meetings will continue to take place via via Zoom. [3:51:58, 3:52:18]: Okay, so we go to city's website, city of starbridge.com for meeting invitation link, Facebook page, or contact city hall offices at 770-389-7900. Citywide Development Authority meeting, second Tuesday of each month, 6 p.m. City Hall Levi Meeting Room, which will be April 11th. The main speech [3:52:18, 3:52:38]: Street Advisory Board meeting second Friday of each month at 9 a.m. at the Welcome Center, 1:30 ML King Senior Heritage Trail, April 14th. Downtown Development Authority meetings as third Tuesday of each month via web zoom, April 18th. U Council Advisory Committee meeting, 6:30 p.m. Third Tuesday of each month, Levi Meeting Room, April 18th. [3:52:38, 3:52:52]: eighteenth in City Hall. City Council Work Session meeting last Tuesday of each month at six P.M. City Hall Council Chambers, April twenty fifth. Planning Commission meeting six thirty P.M. City Hall Council Chambers fourth uh Thursday of each month is April twenty-seventh. [3:52:55, 3:53:09]: Couple things here. Uh cave city events and upcoming events here. Uh council initiative uh April twenty sixth at six p.m. at Merrill Manor's Conference Center. Uh Councilwoman uh Gan is gonna have her District One Town Hall. [3:53:13, 3:53:33]: Also, Henry Free Music presents uh ASP ASEP violin classes and music program at Cotton Indian Elementary School, involving Cotton Indian uh Indian Elementary School, Red Oak Elementary, Fairview Elementary School, and the Youth Orchestra United Joy Through Music Spring Concert 2023 on Tuesday. [3:53:33, 3:53:46]: May sixteenth at twenty twenty three, seven PM at Murr Manors and uh Mayor Pro Tem uh Barber plans to participate and be in I guess she's gonna play a violin, I suppose. I don't know. Okay, there you go. All right. [3:53:47, 3:53:57]: Join Mayor Pro Tem Barber once again in partnership with JJ Smiles for the 2023 annual cookout and fundraising on April 15th from 2 p.m. to 6 p.m. at Clark Community Park. [3:53:58, 3:54:18]: Community members are encouraged to donate backpacks, backpacks, and school supplies. Monetary donations are welcome with 100% of the proceeds going directly to JJ Smiles Incorporated. This event is free and open to the public. You can email ybarber at city of Stockbridge-G A dot G-O-V for more information. [3:54:18, 3:54:27]: Join Councilman uh Blount on Wednesday, April nineteenth, is Murray Manos Conference Center for Bingle from ten A. M. to noon. Please contact Roslin Rawls at six seven eight. [3:54:28, 3:54:31]: eight three three three three three three three three three four eight for more information. [3:54:31, 3:54:34]: Join Councilman Blount once again on Thursday, April twentieth. [3:54:35, 3:54:39]: at Winsong Clubhouse for District Three Town Hall meeting, seven PM. [3:54:39, 3:54:42]: And contact once again Rosalind Rawls for that information. [3:54:43, 3:55:03]: And I got him to join Councilman Blounts again on Saturday, the 22nd of April at Clark Park at 12 p.m., 12 p.m. to 3 p.m. for Stockbridge Motorsports Safety Ride. Once again, contact Rosland Rawls at 678-833-3348. Join Councilman Thomas for Don't Trash Stockbridge. [3:55:03, 3:55:23]: Bridge centered around education, highlighting the causes and effects of littering and illegal dumping. Saved a date for the Carrie May Hammerick Day, Saturday, May 13th. More information follow. Contact Consman Thomas at 404-247-4972. And as always, a continued salute to veterans. [3:55:23, 3:55:43]: Please forward pictures of veterans, include name, rank, uh, branch, years of service to Mayor Pro Tem Tom. Well, actually, excuse me, Councilman Thomas. Uh da da special as he presents, a special tribute to our local veterans. Pictures should be submitted to Rawls and Rawls at R Rawls at City StopRage-G E dot Gov. [3:55:43, 3:56:03]: And of course thank you for your service. And also I'm sponsoring a particular event also on May uh sixth at two o'clock with uh fundraising event for Sisters Talk. It's uh it's going to be at Merrill Manors at two o'clock as I mentioned. And uh this is a a nonprofit that uh works with the young girls and and helps young girls become [3:56:03, 3:56:13]: more responsible and mature in this aspect as well. So we'll make sure we'll get that information further out as well. And uh my other comments, it is springtime. [3:56:13, 3:56:33]: But COVID nineteen is still out and about, so make sure you get your boosters. I don't think flu season is out. We're out of flu season now, but boosters are still needed, so please be safe and be health uh healthy. And happy belated Easter everybody. Re happy rec Res Recor Re ooh Resurrection Day. I can't get that out there. And hopefully that uh you gotta renew [3:56:33, 3:56:53]: uh spirit uh for life um based on what occurred a couple thousand years ago with jesus our lord uh let's see here for the uh for all the football fans the draft comes up uh here here in shortly in the next week or so so hopefully uh your favorite team will [3:56:53, 3:57:13]: Will get their particular players and wish well on the uh the Falcons as they gather some folks for the next season. And and well wishes to the Braves for a great start this season and hopefully they'll continue to uh work towards another pennant. And Friday, the 14th, will be our first concert of our [3:57:13, 3:57:33]: our concert season for 2023 with the IZ brothers and the uh group after seven. On that note, uh mayor. Yes, sir. You know what there's a there's a distinguished citizen that's probably gonna be in the top five of the NFL draft. You're absolutely right. And his name is uh Will Anderson. I got you. [3:57:33, 3:57:53]: I I understand what you mean. I got so we gotta look we gotta look forward to uh acknowledge that with him after all this guy's done to see what else we can do here in the city. Yes, uh he might be the top first uh defensive player very much so we'll take a look at that. Don't know where he's gonna go, of course, but we'll find out. On that note, uh that's my understanding, we have an executive session. [3:57:53, 3:57:53]: Yeah. [3:57:54, 3:57:57]: Uh so I need a motion to go into second session. [3:57:58, 3:57:59]: No, we don't. We don't have a exact session? [3:58:00, 3:58:01]: We do not ha okay. [3:58:02, 3:58:08]: Well if that's the case then I need a motion to end our meeting. Mayor so moved. Okay, is there a second? Ms. Barber second all in favor, please indicate. [3:58:09, 3:58:11]: Okay, thank you. God bless y'all. Good night.

--- title: Regular Council Meeting date: 2023-03-13 source: 2023-03-13_Regular_Council_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:05, 0:00:06]: Brandy and easy. [0:00:09, 0:00:11]: That should have been [0:00:11, 0:00:13]: I think three minutes. [0:00:17, 0:00:20]: That was uh the main one. [0:00:22, 0:00:27]: That you said you all had a great, great time now. Where's that gate lady? Oh yeah, we're at this party. [0:00:28, 0:00:30]: [ 37.2, 37.9]: Yeah. [0:00:39, 0:00:41]: Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. [0:00:44, 0:00:46]: Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. [0:00:47, 0:01:00]: Thank you all so very much for joining us. Um March is women's National Women's History Month. Um so the great city of Stockbridge is celebrating [0:01:01, 0:01:14]: all of the contributions of women across our city, across our county, across our nation. We even had a celebration by my fellow councilmate, Councilman Elton Alexander. [0:01:14, 0:01:18]: Honoring women in our city and throughout our county. [0:01:20, 0:01:28]: I'll be honoring women today and if I can ask the women who are in the room, if you can come up front and join me for the reading of this proclamation, please. [0:01:30, 0:01:31]: Madam Clerk. [0:01:36, 0:01:37]: Yeah. [0:01:37, 0:01:39]: This way. Either side. [0:01:44, 0:01:47]: One of our officers is joining us as well. [0:01:57, 0:02:02]: With the reading of proclamation, the city of Stockbridge in recognition of Women's History Month. [0:02:02, 0:02:06]: With excerpts from the twenty twenty three presidential proclamation. [0:02:07, 0:02:18]: Whereas during Women's History Month, we celebrate the countless women who have fought tirelessly and courageously for equality, justice, and opportunity in our nation. [0:02:18, 0:02:28]: And whereas we also reaffirm our commitment to advancing rights and opportunity for women and girls in the United States and around the world. [0:02:28, 0:02:35]: We are mindful that we are building on the legacy of both recognized trail blazers and unsung. [0:02:35, 0:02:36]: Heroines. [0:02:36, 0:02:40]: who have guided the course of American history and continue to shape its future. [0:02:40, 0:02:45]: And whereas last year the Supreme Court overturned the [0:02:45, 0:02:46]: Roe versus Wade. [0:02:47, 0:02:57]: stripping away a constitutional right from the American people and the ability of millions of women to make decisions about their own bodies, putting their health and lives at risk. [0:02:58, 0:03:02]: Disparities persist in economic security, health care, [0:03:02, 0:03:06]: and caregiving responsibilities, especially for women and girls of color. [0:03:07, 0:03:16]: Those who perform critical work, including those who care for our children and our families, are too often overlooked, underpaid, and undervalued. [0:03:17, 0:03:30]: And whereas, this month, as we continue our work to advance gender equality and equity, let us celebrate the contribution of women throughout our history and honor the stories that have too often gone untold. [0:03:31, 0:03:35]: Летис рекорніздат фундаментал фрідом а інтерконекте. [0:03:36, 0:03:38]: When opportunities for women are withheld. [0:03:38, 0:03:39]: We all suffer. [0:03:40, 0:03:41]: And when women's lives are improved. [0:03:42, 0:03:43]: We all gain. [0:03:43, 0:03:52]: Let us strive to create a nation where every woman and girl knows that her possibilities know no bounds in America. [0:03:52, 0:04:01]: And now, therefore, I, Yolanda Barber, by virtue of authority vested in me as Mayor Pro Tem of the great city of Stockbury's, Georgia, [0:04:02, 0:04:04]: And on behalf of Mayor Anthony S. Ford. [0:04:05, 0:04:18]: City Council members Elton Alexander, John Blount, Lakeisha Gantt and Alfonso Thomas do hereby proclaim March twenty-three as March 2023 as Women's History Month. [0:04:18, 0:04:28]: We call upon the Stockbridge community to observe this month and to celebrate with appropriate programs, ceremonies and activities, and is being done here today. [0:04:28, 0:04:40]: And witness thereof I hereunto set my hand and the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on this thirteenth day of March, in the year of our Lord, two thousand twenty three. [0:04:42, 0:04:43]: Saba. [0:04:44, 0:04:46]: Mary Po Tim, Yolanda Barber. [0:04:46, 0:04:48]: And City Clerk Vanessa Holliday. [0:04:49, 0:04:58]: I'd like to present this to um Pastor Kalicia O'Neill from Global Impact Christian Ministries. Thank you. [0:04:59, 0:05:03]: Would you like to say a few words? Would you like to [0:05:05, 0:05:25]: Well, I want to say thank you to Mayor Pro Tem Barber. Um, as a woman, I'm proud um to stand here um in a month where we repres we recognize women for their achievements, past and present. Um I say, God be the glory for the vision um and the dreams that have come to pass because of great. [0:05:25, 0:05:30]: great women and we give God glory and honor for it. Amen. [0:05:32, 0:05:34]: Very very much. Thank you. [0:05:35, 0:05:36]: You come over this way. [0:07:30, 0:07:33]: Uh okay. [0:08:57, 0:08:59]: Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. [0:09:02, 0:09:04]: It is six oh two. [0:09:05, 0:09:10]: On March thirteenth, and I'd like to call our regular city council meeting to order. [0:09:13, 0:09:20]: I've invited Ms. Pastor Kalicia O'Neal from Global Impact Christian Ministries to do the invocation for us. [0:09:24, 0:09:24]: Please stand. [0:09:30, 0:09:31]: Let us pray. [0:09:31, 0:09:37]: Heavenly Father, in the name of Jesus, this is the day you have made, and we will rejoice and be glad in it. [0:09:38, 0:09:42]: Father, you told us in your word that we should pray for politicians and all those in authority. [0:09:42, 0:09:45]: So we come boldly to your throne of grace to find help. [0:09:46, 0:09:48]: In our time of need, Heavenly Father. [0:09:48, 0:10:02]: Father, we pray that you would give our council members wisdom, clarity, and understanding as they work together for the betterment of Stockbridge. And we'll forever give you all the honor, the glory, and the praise. And it is so in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. [0:10:03, 0:10:05]: And thank you. Um Pledge of Allegiance? [0:10:06, 0:10:19]: Pledge of Allegiance to the Plague of the United States of America to the Republic of which stands a nation undergoing indivisible with liberty and justice for all. [0:10:21, 0:10:24]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:10:27, 0:10:29]: Mayor Ford? [0:10:31, 0:10:37]: Let the record reflect Mayor Ford is not in attendance. Mayor Pro Tam Barber. Present. [0:10:38, 0:10:40]: Councilman Alexander. Present. [0:10:42, 0:10:43]: Councilman Blount. [0:10:46, 0:10:51]: Let the record reflect Councilman Blount is not in attendance. Councilwoman Gantt. [0:10:54, 0:11:00]: Let the record reflect Councilwoman Gantt is not in attendance. Councilman Thomas. [0:11:00, 0:11:01]: Present. [0:11:02, 0:11:03]: Mayor Pro Tem Barber. [0:11:04, 0:11:08]: Due to a lack of a quorum, the meeting cannot proceed. [0:11:09, 0:11:15]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. Um, I'd like to consult with our city attorney, Mr. Washington. [0:11:16, 0:11:21]: I'd still like for us to just um hear the presentation from [0:11:22, 0:11:25]: The representative from s um Sky Design. [0:11:26, 0:11:27]: For a way finding. [0:11:28, 0:11:30]: I know that we can't vote on that item. [0:11:31, 0:11:34]: But I'd still like for her to proceed with her presentation. [0:11:39, 0:11:41]: As presiding officer you have that latitude, but it [0:11:42, 0:11:52]: As presiding officer you have that latitude, but there's not a quorum, so just they can still if you want people to still speak, they still can, but we don't have a quorum to be able to conduct any business right now. [0:11:53, 0:11:54]: Understand. Thank you, sir. [0:11:55, 0:11:55]: Um [0:11:56, 0:12:02]: So with that being said, uh Madam Clark, um the adoption of the minutes we cannot [0:12:03, 0:12:04]: approve or [0:12:05, 0:12:06]: Deny. [0:12:06, 0:12:07]: Um [0:12:07, 0:12:09]: Any of the old business [0:12:10, 0:12:20]: Any of the new business, we're not able to take any votes today. However, I'd like for us to move forward with hearing from the representative from Sky Design. [0:12:21, 0:12:26]: And Ms. Kira Braggs, the Main Street Manager. [0:12:26, 0:12:27]: For a wayfinding. [0:12:37, 0:12:56]: Good evening, Mayor Pro Tem and Council members. Um I'm here today before you to introduce Ms. Tiffany Chin, who is principal at Sky Design, a firm that we have consulted with with regard to our wayfinding initiative here in the city of Stockbridge, and I'd like to bring her forward to make her presentation. [0:12:58, 0:12:59]: Thank you. [0:13:02, 0:13:05]: Good evening, everyone. Nice to see you all again. [0:13:09, 0:13:15]: So today and tonight we are here to um excuse me while I [0:13:16, 0:13:17]: There we go. [0:13:17, 0:13:33]: To see progress of the signage and wayfinding master plan package that you had um hired our company to provide for you, both a strategy for how the city branding can be expressed in a [0:13:33, 0:13:43]: visual manner for identity of the city of Stockbridge, starting at its perimeter and moving forward further into the interior of the city. [0:13:44, 0:13:47]: Today, what you'll see is a culmination of [0:13:48, 0:14:02]: all of our work thus far thus far, uh multiple conversations, um, many rounds of development, and we'll start here with just the premise of how we began this project, identifying the project goals. [0:14:03, 0:14:17]: Our purpose of this was to unify the identity of the city and unify the city itself through these visual items that both act as a uh visual guide for when you have entered the city as well as draw um. [0:14:18, 0:14:23]: Providing wayfinding to drivers and eventually pedestrians throughout the city as well. [0:14:24, 0:14:36]: Additionally, this system should clearly identify the city of Stockbridge as a place and a destination, just by nature of its existence and celebration. [0:14:38, 0:14:58]: So, how we um began the fundamentals of this project is to understand who the city of Stockbridge is, your character at a snap at a glance, what your character snapshot is. Um, all of these words and images were gathered and discussed as representing what Stockbridge. [0:14:57, 0:15:00]: is about and what makes Stockbridge special. [0:15:01, 0:15:17]: We also know that the branding for the city was completed just prior or prior to when we were hired to provide this signage and wayfinding system. So that was another integral component for the building blocks of our designs. [0:15:19, 0:15:26]: And starting with the design development, we begin with the primary monument, which is also known as the Interstate Gateway. [0:15:28, 0:15:42]: And when we last reviewed this, we had seen a um much rougher design idea. And today's presentation has a much more uh refined rendering of each of these images. So what you're looking at is [0:15:42, 0:15:53]: The interstate gateway, this would belong at the northernmost end of the city and the southernmost end of the city, and then also moving in slightly from um the multiple highways at the north side. [0:15:54, 0:16:08]: And what we've done since we last met is we've taken your feedback from the last conversation. We've also spoken with GDOT, um, gotten their feedback about any concerns or uh restrictions that they may [0:16:09, 0:16:29]: Present to us in the future, and we've modified our designs according to those conversations. So, what you can see here is the highway, um, interstate gateway. You can see a scale perspective of the vehicle just down to the left. And this would be constructed from fabricated aluminum, potentially some steel structural components. [0:16:29, 0:16:49]: Components and a breakaway based with a brick veneer and concrete caps. GDOT has mentioned that a 25-foot height is their new maximum. And we originally had shown a slightly taller design and we've reduced it so we've gotten a preliminary approach. [0:16:49, 0:16:50]: Approval from them. [0:16:51, 0:17:10]: And then you can see on the side of these interstate gateways, we are proposing that this very celebr celebrational uh shape and design has reveals on the side that k bring in the Stockbridge green. And you can see here we have the Stockbridge gold and Stockbridge red. [0:17:10, 0:17:25]: So what we are proposing is that for visibility, you have the faces of the letters be white and the returns of the letters be the stockbridge green, along with these two uh rail line details on the edges of the arcs that swoop upwards. [0:17:26, 0:17:46]: Additionally, what you can see from this rendering is how we propose this being eliminated. To step backwards, because we are in these final stages of designs for council approval, what we would be um, what the next steps would be after approval is to create a technical package to then [0:17:46, 0:17:52]: um start the bid procurement process and we needed to define what [0:17:53, 0:18:04]: illumination would be present for each sign, and then understand how that gets worked into the drawings so that bidders could respond to the RFQ and RFP. [0:18:05, 0:18:23]: So from an evening rendering, we're proposing that these letters are facelit, channel letters. Those would be illuminated out of the front of the letters, and then you can see on the interior of the arcs, we're proposing that those are accented with exterior lighting that swoops upwards with the arc itself. [0:18:25, 0:18:36]: And then moving forward into the secondary monument, um, you will see a simplified version of how this design is then translated into other [0:18:36, 0:18:41]: uh city perimeter locations. Uh we have roughly [0:18:41, 0:18:51]: eight sign types and this being the second in the hierarchy of experiences, we wanted it to have a similar form and expression. [0:18:52, 0:19:12]: And we've you'll see that we're starting to propose another layer to the color scheme and the family. So we're proposing a bit of a dark gray and then a lighter silver. And then we're also proposing use of the Stockbridge S. And then you can see that those celebratory expressions become. [0:19:12, 0:19:19]: um this um very uh botanical and um expressive form from all directions. [0:19:20, 0:19:28]: The tertiary monument is um all of these work into the experience of arrival, the sequence of arrival. So [0:19:29, 0:19:31]: If a driver were to [0:19:31, 0:19:41]: Enter Stockbridge, they see the interstate gateway. If they were to come in on a secondary road, they would see the design that we just showed and a tertiary road, they would see the design you see here. [0:19:42, 0:19:56]: And so you can see that's a simplified version. You can see the secondary and tertiary monument take up a small footprint of space. Normally these occupy um a space on the side of a road, so we wanted to make sure that we were [0:19:56, 0:20:00]: adjusting and accommodating in a proactive manner for where these would be located. [0:20:01, 0:20:03]: And again, this would be fabricated aluminum. [0:20:04, 0:20:16]: We would specify that this would have an automotive grade paint with um the multiple coats and again breakaway bases with a brick veneer and uh cap. [0:20:18, 0:20:24]: And then you can see here, just from a scale perspective, they reduce further and further depending upon where these are located. [0:20:27, 0:20:47]: And then finally, we know that from um a perimeter expression, there are already some existing uh s city boundary signs. And we wanted to ensure that when when we depart from this project, that the city has a full sign family to [0:20:46, 0:20:50]: move forward with for years to come and [0:20:50, 0:20:54]: With that is um the need for. [0:20:55, 0:21:09]: any potential situation. So we created a even simplified, even more simplified uh expression for to demarcate a city edge or city boundary. And you can see that we have the same um panel. [0:21:09, 0:21:29]: The dark gray interior with this the city S on top, stockbridge letters going vertically, and we've just started to introduce an interior reveal to carry forth the original reveals from the interstate gateway, and just a simple cap on top. So this would be one of those sign types. [0:21:29, 0:21:37]: Types that's easily mass-produced and identi uh located and mass-produced in bulk quantities as needed. [0:21:40, 0:21:45]: Moving into the vehicular directionals, these are signs that would be [0:21:46, 0:21:47]: Positioned [0:21:47, 0:21:58]: Immediately from the interstate um into and throughout the city to multiple destinations. What you see on the left is the rendering at different angles and [0:21:58, 0:22:01]: It at a scale according to the vehicle. [0:22:01, 0:22:16]: And just a um mock-up of what the wayfinding could look like. You can see that the letters are tall to meet GDOT recommendations and also just from a driver's speed um readability purposes. [0:22:16, 0:22:28]: You can see we're bringing in the same graphic elements but using them in new manners. So we what we have is a um aluminum base with to mimic the brick base. [0:22:28, 0:22:47]: the curved panel to act and reflect the original graphic elements of the Interstate Gateway, and the same silver and dark gray finishes with tall copy anywhere from three to four destinations at one time. [0:22:47, 0:22:54]: And then bringing in again the gold and red accent colors as well as the green rail lines of the city of Stockbridge. [0:22:56, 0:23:03]: Moving forward into the building ID, one of the discussions that we had as part of our design process is [0:23:04, 0:23:13]: retaining some of the signs that exist and utilizing some of their elements because uh there was an investment put in in the first place and they were significant. [0:23:13, 0:23:21]: And so what we are showing is actually two styles of building IDs. One is a retrofit, and one is a um [0:23:22, 0:23:25]: production a а new a new fabrication. [0:23:25, 0:23:28]: And what we are proposing and you can see right here at the top [0:23:29, 0:23:32]: Right is how an existing sign of [0:23:32, 0:23:36]: A portion would be demolished and the base would be repurposed. [0:23:38, 0:23:44]: And this is the proposed design for the retrofitted building ID. [0:23:45, 0:24:03]: We do have uh the brick base, a brick column with a dimensional city S, with two um rail lines that wrap the wrap the column with the inset, the stock bridge red and gold arches below, and a gray panel with a gray arch above. [0:24:03, 0:24:05]: And for the [0:24:06, 0:24:09]: Single build we have um eschew the [0:24:09, 0:24:17]: Brick base below, we have this cantilevered portion above, and otherwise it maintains the same design as the retrofit. [0:24:19, 0:24:39]: And then moving into the park IDs or trailhead IDs, it could you be used for either. You can see that it takes on a similar form and expression, except we have swapped the color fields, excuse me, so that you still get some variation from park to building and a stock bridge. [0:24:38, 0:24:41]: uh green for the copy. [0:24:43, 0:25:03]: The pedestrian kiosks are currently identified as being installed in the downtown area with the knowledge that as these are being produced and new locations are being identified, they could be built in further quantities or larger quantities. But the intent of these is to serve as [0:25:03, 0:25:04]: Um [0:25:05, 0:25:11]: Elements for any pedestrian to either be informed of Stockbridge locations or [0:25:11, 0:25:17]: maybe potential retailers or other destinations, there's multiple uses that this could be used for. [0:25:17, 0:25:35]: But the thought is that they would be built with a cabinet that could be either implemented day one with a digital screen or retrofitted later and implemented with a digital screen in the future. But these would be um standing, you can see slightly above uh standard uh height. [0:25:35, 0:25:40]: And serve to provide information to anyone downtown. [0:25:42, 0:25:45]: And then finally we have the public parking ID. [0:25:46, 0:25:56]: We do have um two variations of this that we had planned on including in the bid package should we proceed to that uh design phase. [0:25:57, 0:26:02]: The design on the left you can see is a slightly more um [0:26:02, 0:26:21]: substantial design. They're both vertical with a small footprint and it just says parking on two sides. And the design on the right is much more simple with a single post and flag design with park the the green stock bridge, the stockbridge green with the P and an arrow for the wayfinding. [0:26:22, 0:26:23]: And you can see that [0:26:23, 0:26:35]: As we progress into these um physically smaller signs, we're continuing with some of the design elements and languages originally established. So both of these have [0:26:35, 0:26:45]: a green reveal on the post and you can see that again as we start to land on our last sign type, which is the street ID. [0:26:46, 0:26:47]: So here we have [0:26:48, 0:26:58]: A single post with a painted base and then a green stockbridge green street sign with the red and gold arches. [0:26:59, 0:27:01]: with reflective vinyl for the street name. [0:27:04, 0:27:11]: And that concludes the sign family design. You can see here at a glance how each of them speak to each other and [0:27:12, 0:27:18]: relate to each other in terms of scale and how none of them are duplicative but they all feel related. [0:27:19, 0:27:28]: like a family, and then we also have um a quick glance at what the budget could look like if it were implemented all at once. [0:27:29, 0:27:47]: Beyond this, we can go further into the sign types that we had discussed in the past. We've made a few adjustments, such as identifying where exactly where the 675, you can see right here, exactly where that is placed. [0:27:47, 0:27:53]: And also confirming that A one, which is the northernmost. [0:27:53, 0:28:05]: Interstate sign and A2, which is the southernmost interstate sign, all of them are placed within the city, and here you can see the blue signs, which are the secondary monuments, the orange signs are the tertiary monuments. [0:28:06, 0:28:17]: And then further we s we speak to the current list of destinations. These would inform the message schedule, which is the actual copy that goes on every single sign. [0:28:18, 0:28:25]: And here you can see at a glance the master plan for where every vehicular directional would be implemented. [0:28:25, 0:28:26]: Um one of the next [0:28:27, 0:28:47]: Major points of discussion discussion in the next design phase would be to discuss which sign types are being implemented, if they are all of them, or if we are going to select certain ones, or even from a vehicular standpoint, do we do a portion of these and do other ones further down the [0:28:47, 0:28:48]: the line. [0:28:49, 0:28:55]: Here you can see the building IDs in green and the park IDs in yellow. [0:28:56, 0:28:58]: And then here in purple. [0:28:58, 0:29:12]: You can see the pedestrian um sorry, pink the pedestrian kiosks, purple the public parking IDs, and then I just at a glance some street branding around downtown, the street signage around downtown. [0:29:14, 0:29:25]: And here are some quick renderings of where the monuments or and how they could look at each of these interstate off-ramps. [0:29:25, 0:29:26]: into the city. [0:29:29, 0:29:30]: Zoom in a little bit. [0:29:36, 0:29:38]: Here from a secondary gateway. [0:29:44, 0:29:46]: And then again each sign type. [0:29:47, 0:29:53]: And w what we would do is we would work with G Dot to establish exactly where these are located. These are as you can see. [0:29:53, 0:29:59]: Photoshopped into um Google Google Maps, but they give you a good idea of scale and placement. [0:29:59, 0:30:03]: and um general understanding of how these would look in reality. [0:30:05, 0:30:11]: Council members, Mayor Pro Tem, thank you for allowing us to present this and also to work with you to design this package. [0:30:12, 0:30:20]: Awesome. Thank you so very much. Um, and great job on the presentation and design of these signs. Um [0:30:21, 0:30:26]: I will ask my councilmates you all have any comments you would like to make? Sure, yes. [0:30:28, 0:30:30]: Councilman Alexander. [0:30:30, 0:30:50]: Uh yes, thank you. Uh I'm just overjoyed. The work is spectacular. Uh it is class A and it brings us to uh the quality message that we want to communicate to anybody that uh comes encounter with these signs. They see immediately the quality of them, they see they even offer [0:30:50, 0:31:10]: Or artistic type of expression in the detailed design of the science. Sometimes you sit down and you talk with a consultant and you don't underst they don't you don't know whether they're gonna get you or not. You guys got us. You understood exactly what the mission was, and it's a mission accomplished. Now, in terms of [0:31:10, 0:31:30]: This and I the council members will tell you that I sent out an email to uh visit Henry and Panola Mountain State Park about cross advertising because of what we have is so impressive, such as those two tourist attractions, Panola Mountain, which is outside the city limits. We certainly want to be able [0:31:30, 0:31:50]: To work with uh the che the Visit Henry Chamber Visitors Bureau to and uh the chamber and Panola Mountain and some other points of interest to be able to incorporate them into what we're doing uh with our directional signage right off our 75. Uh we went to a presentation the other day uh by the [0:31:50, 0:32:10]: Convention and Visitors Bureau and they did an analysis on various points of interest in the city. And pretty much what we saw was people would come to the amphitheater for a concert. But if it was less than four hours, they said they didn't do an overnight hotel stay. So we need to use this in order to probably [0:32:10, 0:32:30]: Partner with those other brands to be able to increase their time into the city so that it would incorporate a hotel stay and increase the amount of tourism dollars that'll be coming into the city. But this package is uh is absolutely brilliant. Uh I think Mayor Fro Tim and I were we were jumping out of our [0:32:29, 0:32:49]: Because honestly, I would go all in. I wouldn't try to piecemeal it. I would just the the product is so good. You cannot do it justice by putting a piece here and a piece there and then coming back. And it needs to go out all at one time to be able to express to uh [0:32:49, 0:32:56]: the public, uh the the the quality of the work. I'd like to ask Mr. Gardner to come to the podium. [0:33:08, 0:33:28]: Uh thank you sir, I appreciate you. Uh now we all know to really come down to what the finances look like and then been able to pay for this. But with this y very unique product, it actually qualifies as tourism, so we should be able to pay for it through the use of hotel motel tax, especially seeing [0:33:28, 0:33:48]: That um we have these additional hotels that we picked up uh in the annexation, and that fund should actually be growing. Over the past couple of years, that fund has actually increased dramatically, and I think it's somewhere near a million dollars in that fund at this particular point. So talk about how we were working. [0:33:48, 0:33:57]: Work with the uh Convention and Visitors Bureau and the and the city in order to finance this through hotel motel tax. [0:33:59, 0:34:07]: Good afternoon, Mayor Pro Tem uh Council members. Uh yes. So we the way the hotel motel tax is split up. [0:34:07, 0:34:18]: There's a portion dedicated specifically to to um items such as this. It's called tourist product development portion of the hotel motel tax. So if you're at eight percent. [0:34:19, 0:34:23]: So somewhere around one and a half percent goes to tourist product development. [0:34:23, 0:34:35]: The other rest of that that eight percent can't go towards this program. So that minimizes obviously how much of that overall sum you can use towards it. So [0:34:35, 0:34:55]: That's where we would be able to utilize those funds to assist with the payment for it. Um there's also some other funds we could look at as well to to get this moving forward. Um that we're investigating whether we can use those funds, and I'll come back and bring that to you guys. But um out of the whole a lot. [0:34:55, 0:35:07]: of the tourist product of the hotel motel tax, we can't use all of it towards this type of stuff. Only only a one point five percent of it can be used for tourist product development. That could be [0:35:07, 0:35:12]: Um, paying for the Merl Manders, paying for some of the operational costs of the [0:35:12, 0:35:22]: the um amphitheater, those type of things that that draw people to to where you are. Um, you can use those funds for it. Like even um [0:35:23, 0:35:35]: senior and youth center. If it's gonna have tournaments where people coming in, you can use that money for that. Um to cover the either the construction costs or the OM. Yes, we are growing in our hotel numbers. [0:35:35, 0:35:46]: However, we're not there yet, but I'm hoping. We've we you know, we we we lost one almost and so they're starting slow because we did predicate our budget on having um the home two. [0:35:47, 0:36:07]: you know, pretty much finished by now, which they should have been, but now they're back at the starting point because of the fire. But we're we are seeing growth in that number. But I just want council to remember that of the eight percent, only one and a half percent can go towards turret product development. And trust me, I know because we got in trouble in my last job for putting too much [0:36:07, 0:36:10]: in that fund and got sanctioned from DCA about it. [0:36:11, 0:36:31]: Okay, so what we really did was we picked up the holiday inn on highway one thirty eight, the red roof inn uh in the travel lodge uh over there. Those three and then as you say we got the new uh hotel on the construction on Country Club Drive. Three on the four under construction right now. Right. We have what the home to suites. [0:36:31, 0:36:35]: Holiday in and holiday in and uh [0:36:36, 0:36:56]: The holiday and uh in and in suites, the we could ever get them to go in, the uh best western and the home two which is on Patrick Henry. And now there's there's a particular Hilton on Patrick Henry and then the home two is on Spear, right? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well those obviously those numbers would be [0:36:55, 0:37:15]: uh increasing and and going in that direction. But what are your thoughts on it? I mean honestly I I I I I I'm kinda in the position where I think this is just where we're trying to go in terms of uh and then we have the additional product that'll be coming online in terms of the JohtoCo. We should be seeing the Costco movie. [0:37:15, 0:37:20]: And several others over there. [0:37:20, 0:37:40]: Yeah, I mean and obviously w um when I came on board last year and I saw what was done. Uh let me stop you right there. No, no, no. I wanna thank you for we were going down the wrong path with those subdivision signs and what you have brought [0:37:40, 0:37:51]: brought to the table with sky design is Buckhead versus where we were it out in the wilderness somewhere. So I wanna thank you for you you deserve all the credit for where we are today. [0:37:54, 0:38:14]: Thank you. Thank you. Ms. Briggs and her and her team as well. They deserve a huge kudos because they went through the day-to-day on this versus, you know, me just telling them, hey man, we need to switch direction. Um, you know, and go go with a firm that, you know, has done this and understand how this process. [0:38:14, 0:38:34]: actually works and then go through that process and generate what you see before you. So that that was important. And you know, it it says a lot about who we are and where we're headed when you see something like this happening going on and being constructed. So yes, we're looking at all the avenues to at which to to get this process started once it's approved by council. Um [0:38:34, 0:38:38]: I'll be discussing some of those options to you guys next week. [0:38:38, 0:38:46]: Um, as part of my presentation to you guys. So see whether you guys wanna move in that direction in terms of how we fund this and a couple of other things is is coming up the pipe. [0:38:46, 0:39:00]: Absolutely. I think what it's important to mention is that we can't vote. But pretty much there's three of us here to uh and we can't give a consensus on what we think about what's going on. So certainly we'll move in that direction. Thank you. [0:39:01, 0:39:07]: Thank you, Councilman Alexander, for your comments. Um, I believe these signs uh [0:39:07, 0:39:12]: Of course I support it. Of course I do. Um it is key to helping us to [0:39:13, 0:39:14]: Ребран Ар Ситі. [0:39:15, 0:39:17]: And as Councilman Alexander said, we [0:39:17, 0:39:19]: I don't want to piecemeal this. [0:39:19, 0:39:22]: I want to roll it all out at the same time. [0:39:22, 0:39:23]: Um [0:39:23, 0:39:26]: And I wish there were more citizens who are here. [0:39:26, 0:39:34]: To see this presentation and these design concepts, but nonetheless, Councilman Thomas, do you have any comments you'd like to share? [0:39:34, 0:39:35]: I do, thank you. [0:39:37, 0:39:57]: Like to thank um Mrs. Braggs and her team and Sky Design uh for this presentation. And I know we've been at this for a while and uh know Mr. Gardner when you came in, you know, we looked at this and we asked you um, you know, where are we going with this and we did change direction. [0:39:57, 0:40:13]: But I do wanna thank Mrs. Braggs and her team and Sky Design for this. But more importantly, I I I just wanna thank you for you met with council members, uh, in groups individually, but I wanna thank you for capturing [0:40:13, 0:40:33]: the vision of the city. Now I think that's what's important here. Um you know you came in, you met with us, we had an opportunity to input, but you capture that and this is a result of that. So I just want to thank you for that. And it's all about uh you know doing the due job. [0:40:33, 0:40:53]: Diligence, putting the work in, and making sure that we're constantly going forward. I know we we talked about rolling it all out at once and and the financial obligation to this. So I think that's something that we still have to work at to make sure we can we can do that. But I just want to say today, I just want to thank you. [0:40:53, 0:41:12]: and Sky Design for capturing our vision. And I think that is very important that you were able to do that. And Ms. Braggs again, thank you for your due diligence in working with this council and making sure that and city manager to make sure that this is going forward because we've been at this for a while. [0:41:12, 0:41:32]: And then I've always pushed, you know, is is the train going forward? And that's my most of my concern. Sometimes it doesn't matter how long, but you m but you want to make sure that the train is constantly moving. So I just want to thank all of us as a team for capturing this. And I think now um we can all go forward because I think [0:41:32, 0:41:43]: think you have met with I I believe all of the council members and so you have captured all of that input and so now it's just a matter of us raising our hands and [0:41:44, 0:41:46]: Finding the finances to do it. [0:41:46, 0:41:48]: So thank you. [0:41:49, 0:41:49]: Thank you. [0:41:50, 0:42:02]: Thank you all so much. Uh I I do want to say also thank you to Kira for Miss Braggs for all of the support and all of you as well. Um I mentioned to Mayor Pertem just ten minutes ago that [0:42:03, 0:42:05]: This процес has been um [0:42:06, 0:42:26]: Very I I just celebrated eighteen years with Sky Design and this process has been unlike any other. Your openness to collaborating and your professionalism in ensuring that we get the right designs on the page and that it actually represents you. I fully believe that we couldn't have done this without input and and [0:42:26, 0:42:27]: Yeah. [0:42:28, 0:42:45]: Um, you know, anybody can do a good design, but to do a great one you have to collaborate and and do it well. So thank you as well for giving us this opportunity. Thank you, Miss Braggs, for um proposing the idea that we have these types of discussions before we present formally. It's been a wonderful process. [0:42:45, 0:42:48]: If I could one more comment. [0:42:48, 0:43:08]: Certainly I saw where we went and we were talking about the last boxes uh in terms of uh I think we referred to them as the downtown displays or the digital displays. Yes. Now I saw those and now let me talk about my district a little bit. I would like to see those uh at the Johtaco development and that's [0:43:08, 0:43:28]: What's going to be up to the whole team up here to make sure that because those boxes, we saw those uh when we went to Avalon up in Alpharetta. They're very informative, they're very nice, especially with the digital displays and the direction on them. And as the businesses there could actually use them to for advertisement as well. So those that they have digital boards. [0:43:28, 0:43:47]: boards on them. So I just want to put that out there to my colleagues here to see whether or not when we look at that, uh maybe it's um that we would consider doing that.'Cause that development should be up and running and then being pr very productive uh as we go to downtown. We could do them on a parallel track. But thank you. [0:43:47, 0:43:49]: Thank you all. Awesome. [0:43:50, 0:43:57]: Thank you again for your presentation. You are more than welcome to stay. Um, we don't really have any more items on the agenda. [0:43:57, 0:44:03]: to discuss. So I'll just move forward with reading the upcoming meetings and announcements. [0:44:06, 0:44:15]: Uh we have our citywide development authority meeting second Tuesday of each month at six p.m. City Hall Levi Meeting Room on March 14th. [0:44:15, 0:44:21]: Our city council retreat will be March twentieth through March twenty second of twenty twenty three. [0:44:21, 0:44:25]: We have the downtown development authority meeting at six PM via Zoom. [0:44:25, 0:44:28]: Third Tuesday of each month via Zoom. [0:44:28, 0:44:29]: March twenty first. [0:44:30, 0:44:33]: Review council advisory committee meeting at six thirty PM. [0:44:33, 0:44:37]: Every third Tuesday of each month at the Levi Meeting Room. [0:44:37, 0:44:39]: City Hall, March twenty first. [0:44:40, 0:44:44]: Our planning commission meeting at six thirty PM at City Hall, Council Chamber. [0:44:45, 0:44:46]: Fourth Thursday of each month. [0:44:47, 0:44:48]: March twenty third. [0:44:49, 0:44:51]: Our city council work session meeting. [0:44:51, 0:44:55]: Ласт Туздей в іч монт а сикс пм і Сити Халл Консул Чамбер. [0:44:56, 0:44:57]: We've canceled our [0:44:58, 0:45:03]: work session meeting for March because we all will be travelling. [0:45:04, 0:45:07]: To D C for the National League of Cities. [0:45:09, 0:45:18]: We have our youth council meeting, six thirty PM, second Monday of each month, City Hall at Sevi Levi Meeting Room at City Hall, April tenth. [0:45:19, 0:45:22]: We have the city council meeting the second Monday of each month. [0:45:22, 0:45:25]: At six PM at City Hall, Council Chamber. [0:45:25, 0:45:26]: That's April tenth. [0:45:27, 0:45:32]: Our Main Street advisory board meeting second Friday of each month at nine p nine AM. [0:45:32, 0:45:35]: City Hall Levi Meeting Room april fourteenth. [0:45:36, 0:45:39]: The upcoming city events and initiatives [0:45:39, 0:45:46]: Councilman Blount on Wednesday, March 22nd at the Merrill Manders Conference Center for Bingo from 10 a.m. to noon. [0:45:47, 0:45:50]: Please contact Miss Rawls for more information. [0:45:51, 0:46:02]: A continuous salute to veterans. Please forward pictures of veterans including name, branch, rank, and years of service. Um to council member. [0:46:02, 0:46:03]: Thomas. [0:46:03, 0:46:13]: Presents a special tribute to our local veterans. Pictures should be submitted to Miss Rosalind Rawls at R. Rawls at City of Stockbridge. [0:46:13, 0:46:15]: Hyphen G A dot G O V. [0:46:16, 0:46:17]: And thank you for your service. [0:46:18, 0:46:38]: Um want to ask my councilmates, are there any additional comments, questions? Mayor Protein Barber. Uh yes, Madam Clerk. Okay, have two uh corrections on the announcements. The Main Street Advisory Board now meets at the new welcome center on Martin Luther King. [0:46:38, 0:46:55]: Senior Heritage Trail. That's where they hold their meetings now. And the bingo with Councilman Blount has been changed to March 15th due to the council retreat being taking place on the 22nd. So that event will take place on March 15th. [0:46:56, 0:46:57]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. [0:47:00, 0:47:02]: Councilman Thomas, you had a comment? [0:47:05, 0:47:05]: Oh okay. [0:47:06, 0:47:09]: Councilman Alexander, any last comments? [0:47:09, 0:47:13]: I think um was the Miss Prague still here or she already came? [0:47:13, 0:47:24]: Okay. I know today we um went to uh Mr Horton's funeral uh at um and maybe Miss Holliday might want to speak on that. Can you [0:47:29, 0:47:49]: Yes, today was the service for Mr. Greg Horton. Greg Horton was one of the owners of Barn Beautiful. He passed away a week ago last week. Miss Holliday. Yeah. Um I don't think we can hear you. If you don't mind coming to the podium in the front, please. Thank you. [0:47:57, 0:47:58]: Okay, good evening. [0:47:58, 0:48:04]: Yes, um, Councilman Alexander, thank you for mentioning that we did uh attend a service today. [0:48:05, 0:48:25]: For Mr. Greg Horton. Mr. Horton was a former member of the Main Street Advisory Board. He was a business owner here in the city of Stockbridge as part owner of Barn Beautiful over on ML King Senior Heritage Trail. He was also involved with the CVB and the [0:48:25, 0:48:33]: The arts throughout Henry County. He had a beautiful service. He was a wonderful person, and he will be missed dearly. [0:48:36, 0:48:44]: Thank you for that, Madam Clark. Um it's always uh great to have citizens in our community who are [0:48:44, 0:48:50]: actively involved and engaged with our city and certainly Mr. Horton was just that. [0:48:50, 0:48:52]: Um he brought his unique [0:48:52, 0:48:56]: talent and skills right here to our downtown. He certainly will be missed. [0:48:57, 0:49:09]: My prayers, the council's prayers are extended to he and his family. Um any other comments from my councilmates before we adjourn? [0:49:10, 0:49:11]: Mr. Gardner? [0:49:12, 0:49:12]: No help. [0:49:13, 0:49:17]: Well, if nothing else, thank you all so very much for attending. [0:49:18, 0:49:19]: I'll see you next time. [0:49:20, 0:49:21]: Have a good evening. [0:49:23, 0:49:23]: Yeah.

--- title: Work Session Meeting date: 2023-02-23 source: 2023-02-23_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:15, 0:00:18]: No, e by the same thing. [0:00:19, 0:00:25]: Yeah, yeah. [0:00:28, 0:00:30]: Yeah, [0:00:30, 0:00:31]: I don't know. [0:00:32, 0:00:35]: I don't want to access the [0:00:41, 0:00:43]: [ 48.1, 51.6]: Arm set me a table out there. [0:00:52, 0:00:54]: Already played about it. [0:01:00, 0:01:07]: And then we'll provide yourself to my [0:01:40, 0:01:42]: Yeah, so you said another thing as well. [0:01:50, 0:01:52]: Yeah, yeah, yeah [0:01:53, 0:02:02]: Yeah, but you open the double. You remove it. Oh yeah, we are okay. [0:02:03, 0:02:10]: But you're on top of him over there, right? Yeah, are you? [0:02:17, 0:02:20]: Madam Clerk, you ready to go? Okay. [0:02:21, 0:02:22]: Alrighty. [0:02:24, 0:02:37]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, um wanna call this meeting to order. Um council work session, Tuesday, February twenty-eighth, twenty twenty-three. Um the invocation, Mr. Blount, please. Please stand if you can. [0:02:42, 0:02:54]: Dear Heavenly Gracious Father, we come here, we thank you for your grace and we thank you for your mercy. We ask Heavenly Father this time you will continue to cover our hearts and our minds. And each and every decision that we make for the betterment of our city. [0:02:54, 0:03:02]: And that you would touch and open the hearts and mind of each citizens, Heavenly Father, knowing that they have elected a body, Heavenly Father, that would want to see the city prosper. [0:03:03, 0:03:15]: We ask right now that you would cover staff right now, Heavenly Father. Cover those that would be making decisions, Heavenly Father, implementing policies, Heavenly Father, that have been given to them. And Heavenly Father, we ask that you would cover each and everything in this governing body. [0:03:15, 0:03:35]: That we continue to move this city forward. Touch each and every heart of those that are out there, Heavenly Father, protecting this city. Be with them right now in the name of Jesus, Father. We ask right now that you would cover the staff and cover those elected officials, Heavenly Father, that are going through, Heavenly Father, that are suffering loss, grief, or anything, Heavenly Father, that would hinder their mind, that you would make it clear and open their minds. [0:03:35, 0:03:55]: Up right now, God, to be making rational decisions. We thank you, God, for what you're doing right now in the body of Christ and in this city. We honor you, Heavenly Father, we praise you. It's in Jesus' name we pray. Amen. Amen. We pledge allegiance, pledge allegiance to the flag, the United States of America, to the Republic with the stand. [0:03:55, 0:04:01]: [242.1, 244.8]: Roll call, please. Madam Clerk. [0:04:08, 0:04:12]: Mayor Ford. Present. Mayor Pro Tem Barber. [0:04:16, 0:04:18]: So be a pro tem barber. [0:04:20, 0:04:20]: Present. [0:04:21, 0:04:22]: Councilman Alexander. [0:04:22, 0:04:24]: President. Councilman Blank. [0:04:24, 0:04:26]: Present. Councilwoman Gantt. [0:04:28, 0:04:30]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:04:31, 0:04:41]: Let the record reflect Councilwoman Gantt is not in attendance. Councilman Thomas. Present. Mayor Ford, you have a call. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate that. Um Council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:04:41, 0:04:44]: So moved. Mr. Blount so moved as there's a second. [0:04:44, 0:04:47]: Second. Uh Mr. Alzheimer's second down. All in favor, please indicate. [0:04:49, 0:04:55]: It's right uh Ms. uh Mayor Pro Tem you you're voting to for the agenda be adopted? [0:04:59, 0:05:00]: Are you voted for [0:05:02, 0:05:19]: Uh y you voted for the minute. Okay, so it's unanimous decision. Appreciate that. What you have before you, uh, council, is that you have the draft minutes from our January ninth council meeting and the draft minutes from our July thirty excuse me, January thirty first council work session. Please review that. If there are any particular changes or concerns, please get that with the clerk. [0:05:19, 0:05:26]: And we'll be able to vote uh approve these at the next scheduled council meeting. On that note, madam [0:05:31, 0:05:32]: Mm. [0:05:32, 0:05:36]: I I guess we'll take a slight little recess here for whatever reason. [0:05:43, 0:05:43]: [414.6, 416.5]: Okay. I I don't know. Yeah [0:06:58, 0:07:06]: So what's uh what what I I must have missed it. What's uh anybody got idea what the hold up is? Sorry. It's the hold up you [0:07:06, 0:07:22]: Well, they are repositioning the camera, making sure that the full council can be viewed during this public meeting. Okay. It just seems coincidental every meeting I'm being cut off, so they're making sure the camera is positioned correctly. [0:07:23, 0:07:28]: Okay, since the city manager clerk back, wait till clerk gets set. [0:07:36, 0:07:37]: Ma'am Clerk, you said? [0:07:38, 0:07:42]: Oh you're welcome. Okay. Now on that note, c madam clerk, are there any public comments at all? [0:07:44, 0:07:55]: All right, Council, we're gonna move on then to old business. Council consideration to approve the open gov cloud solutions Carol Carol Raf. Carol Craft off. What's it how do you spell that? [0:07:55, 0:08:03]: Cora Soft, I guess it's budgeting and planning uh platform under state Georgia, state of Georgia contract 99999-SPD. [0:08:04, 0:08:18]: Dash T twenty one nine zero eight one four dash zero zero zero one for a three year term of one hundred and seventy three thousand dollars seven hundred and seventy three thousand seven hundred dollars and eight cents. Mr. Wiggins, please. Yes. Um [0:08:19, 0:08:20]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. [0:08:21, 0:08:41]: Staff comes before you just uh the consideration to approve open gov, the open gov platform for a three-year term of$173,700 and eight cents. Um and this is old business, so I'm um I'll just open for if we have any questions, if not. [0:08:41, 0:08:45]: What's a proper enunciation? So I can get this right. [0:08:45, 0:08:49]: For which one? It sa i it it says uh cloud solutions. [0:08:50, 0:09:08]: What's the name of Karasol? Karasoff. Is that Karasov? Okay, got it. All right, I'll remember that now. All right, good deal. Thank you. Uh counsel, you have any questions in reference to uh this particular open club uh budgeting planning system? Yes, sir. Okay, go ahead, please. If you would for the benefit of the public. [0:09:08, 0:09:20]: who did not tune in or may not understand the benefits of their tax dollars being spent. You kinda go over what uh the benefits of this particular uh sp expenditure is. [0:09:21, 0:09:41]: Okay. Um I have Rice. Absolutely. Uh th thank you, Mayor Ford and Council, and and thank you, Council uh Member Alexander for that question. That's a great question. So what we're seeing across the United States and especially across the state of Georgia um is the ability to be one more transparent and being able to report the information coming [0:09:41, 0:09:43]: Yeah. [0:09:43, 0:10:03]: The case that we're seeing is that it's not as easy to take this information and push it out to the public. So what we're able to do is take not only the capital projects, uh, but also the operational information, the financial information, uh pushing it to the public so that the city of Stockbridge can be more transparent, more open, as well as more engaging with. [0:10:03, 0:10:16]: citizens. So able to do tally votes, able to see what the citizens are able to vote on and be more interactive. Um all from an online version so that they can have more of an input and say as to what goes on within the city. [0:10:18, 0:10:28]: Okay, all right. And I'll I'll I'll add to that. Um this particular platform will give the citizens a easy uh uh look at [0:10:29, 0:10:40]: how we operate as far as uh financial and they'll be able to see the budget, uh they'll be able to see expenses uh in real time of who made the expenses. [0:10:41, 0:10:41]: Um [0:10:42, 0:10:45]: So it'll be like you know, a a really great tool. [0:10:46, 0:10:48]: for the city to put out there and let everybody see [0:10:49, 0:10:51]: The transparency that we're trying to uh project. [0:10:51, 0:10:54]: Okay, from the council side, tell us [0:10:54, 0:11:04]: We we we'll be accessing this information ourselves or Oh yes, it's i i exactly. Everybody. Once this goes out, everybody will be able to access this uh platform. [0:11:06, 0:11:09]: Okay, Mr. Blount, do you have a question, sir? Yeah. Uh [0:11:10, 0:11:15]: Mr. Wheel, what what was the funding the funding source on this general fund? [0:11:15, 0:11:27]: General fund? It's coming from uh it's gonna be coming from we had put uh in the budget to take care of uh this first year for um for open gov. [0:11:28, 0:11:36]: So we won't have to do an amendments to the budget anything. Sorry, it's already been budgeted in there? No amendments, yes. Okay, that's fine. Thanks. [0:11:37, 0:11:39]: Mayor Pro Tem, go away, please. [0:11:40, 0:11:46]: So in the event that this software does not meet our expectations, [0:11:46, 0:11:50]: Is there a early termination clause? [0:11:50, 0:11:51]: Just asking. [0:11:53, 0:12:12]: So the uh if we don't meet uh our requirements of what we stated in the contract, uh yes we can have that conversation. As well as each year on the renewal, we're gonna have a uh a business meeting per se to make sure that we're meeting the requirements for the city. And if the city does not see that we're meeting those requirements, yes, there is an option of getting out of it. [0:12:12, 0:12:13]: Thank you. No problem. [0:12:14, 0:12:16]: Any other question, Council at all? [0:12:18, 0:12:27]: Okay. Mayor. Yes, sir. Good please. I'm going to approve the um uh open gov contract for seventy one hundred and seventy three thousand uh seven hundred and eight cents. [0:12:27, 0:12:37]: Sir a second to the motion. Second. All right, Ms. How's that second? All favor, please indicate it's unanimous decision. Thank you very much. All right, thank you. [0:12:39, 0:12:56]: New business council consideration approved task order number two zero two three-zero three for Fabric Design, Davison Parkway, ten foot sidewalks in the amount of seventy thousand dollars. The funding source will be T Splash, presented by Mr. Aaron and Jeremy Goodwin. [0:12:56, 0:13:16]: Gentlemen, please. Good evening, Mr. Mayor and Council. Tonight, uh, Mr. Jeremy Goodwin, our assistant public works director, will be presenting these items, the T Splus items. He's going to be over our T Splas project project, so we're beginning to move forward. We had the T Splas projects ranked based on the ability and the ability to move forward. [0:13:16, 0:13:21]: forward with them quickly so Mr. Good Goodman will be presenting those items. [0:13:24, 0:13:44]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Uh I'm the Assistant Public Works Director. My name is Jeremy Goodwin and um I appreciate your time in um me being here. Uh I asked for council to approve uh the task order for uh Davidson Parkway for the ten foot concrete sidewalks. Uh that is um for in the amount of seventy thousand dollars. [0:13:43, 0:13:50]: And that's within the total estimated budget of$1.5 million coming from the T Sploss fund. [0:13:51, 0:14:03]: I thank you, sir. Any questions for Jeremy? Yes. Go right, please. To be very clear, this is the design portion, correct? It's not the actual installation, it's just design. Is that correct? That's correct. [0:14:03, 0:14:17]: Okay, so this will bring back the scope, it will tell us what needs to be done, then you will come back to us with uh or there will be a construction bid process at that point, or we use an internal contractor. How's that gonna work? [0:14:17, 0:14:37]: Uh so yes, so we'll be going through the planning phases with the concept and the actual design and then after that we'll uh proceed to uh put out an ITB that way we can um contract it out for in for any contractors uh willing to uh construct the uh sockwalks. Okay, do we have a any type of graphic or power point? [0:14:37, 0:14:57]: that we might be able to show the public what this is, where this is, or they just gotta know where it is, pretty much. Not at this time, but um normally every month me and Deshus and I uh we present like a public work hearing public works hearing. So we can present like a rendering or some sort of PowerPoint. We can include it in the PowerPoint. [0:14:57, 0:15:17]: point for our upcoming projects uh during that time. Yeah, that'll be beneficial when you come back for the actual approval so the public can see what it's looking like. They can see on a map where it's gonna run, the you know, uh it the how long it's gonna be, how long it's gonna run. Also that they should understand that this is a part [0:15:17, 0:15:37]: uh what we call our master trail plan that we passed that we're endeavoring to form a citywide trail network. And this is these are just pieces to the puzzle of establishing that trail network and that we have$22 million available over the five-year period in the [0:15:37, 0:15:41]: Mr Wiggins, can you is is it Mr Wiggins here? Mr Wiggins is present. [0:15:44, 0:15:49]: So how much money are we currently collecting off the T Splash monthly? [0:15:51, 0:15:53]: Uh right now we're sitting there [0:15:53, 0:15:54]: Twelve point five. [0:15:55, 0:16:15]: We've already collected that amount. So out of T-SPLOST, not any up, just T-SPLOST. No, it's T-SPLOST. Okay, so the T-SPLOST we collected twelve million dollars out the T-SPLOST already. So total collection we're expecting about thirty million thirty-two thirty point five million dollars. So I think at this point we're actually running ahead of projection. [0:16:15, 0:16:31]: actually uh on the T splast. So as we look at this and we're planning these out, certainly I would like to see You you're saying the thirty thousand in thirty million total. With uh Heron County. [0:16:32, 0:16:33]: We we [0:16:33, 0:16:36]: I sales we're gonna it's gonna be twenty two. [0:16:36, 0:16:39]: Point three, but in conjunction [0:16:39, 0:16:59]: Yeah, well with the with with with the county projects that include four million on Rock Quarry Road, too many those those would be thirty million dollars total. Now certainly uh again if we have twelve million dollars in there, certainly we want to be able to roll these projects out, Mr. Goodwin uh you know, spearheading them because I certainly would like to see [0:16:59, 0:17:19]: Maybe a couple of projects such as Campground Road be added to this list with that much with that much funding, basically$500,000 a month coming in. And that road was built by Henry County and has been turned over to the city. It's a new road that was built without sidewalks, and I see people out there walking on it. [0:17:19, 0:17:21]: Every day. I'm sure many of the council members [0:17:22, 0:17:28]: probably share that uh in their districts as well. So I certainly would like to see Campground Road added as well. [0:17:28, 0:17:31]: Well, these projects here'll be a good start out for home. [0:17:32, 0:17:36]: For the T Swash, because we have not spent any T Swash money. [0:17:36, 0:17:39]: Twelve million, that's outstanding though. Yeah. Thank you. [0:17:39, 0:17:51]: Okay, Miss Gam, do you have a question? I do. How did you determine the sidewalks that needed to start first? Because Walt Stevens isn't on here and a couple of other areas aren't on here as well. So I wanna know. [0:17:52, 0:17:55]: Where did the determination come from? [0:17:55, 0:17:57]: Um ironically [0:17:57, 0:18:04]: to do so sidewalk in specific areas. Was there more need in one area than the other or what? How were they ranked? [0:18:04, 0:18:19]: Well, h the process that we went by was the ones that were we already had right-of-way for. We already had right-of-way on Davidson Parkway that we already had sidewalks like Davidson Parkway, Old Atlanta Road. Uh [0:18:20, 0:18:40]: I think Time Street. Tide Street. And also I think the other one was Peach Drive. So because we had the school there and and those sort of things. But we're working all of these projects like Walt Stevens is more like trails. So we're working on how we connect that as part of our trail plan as well. So we're working on those. [0:18:39, 0:18:59]: We what we wanted to do initially is find projects that we can get done quickly so we can come to the to the citizens and say we've already done some projects. So some other projects are gonna take some coordination like the riding, widening of Rock Quarry Road, the extension, the resurfacing of Eagles Landing Parkway. [0:18:59, 0:19:19]: Hudson Bridge Road. So we tried to go for the low-hanging fruit first so that we can have some projects done and we can show the public that your funds are being used and we are moving projects forward. So it's gonna be an ongoing process. Like every month we're meeting to discuss what's the next project. So we it's [0:19:19, 0:19:39]: It's gonna be ongoing. It's gonna be about every month or every other month. You're gonna see a project come because it's gonna be Walt Stevens part of that, but we kinda identify like sidewalks, trails, and roads. Right. And that's how we're we're starting. Well that makes sense. And I appreciate that. I think that low hanging fruit makes sense a lot, especially if you already have the easements and everything. [0:19:39, 0:19:56]: in place. Because some things are gonna be more complicated than others because you're gonna have to get right away and things like that. So but we just want to come out the box and get some projects done first that we knew we it wouldn't be as much of a a struggle to get them started and done and and we'll keep moving forward. [0:19:56, 0:20:00]: Okay. That's great. I look forward to it. I look forward to the trails. I um [0:20:01, 0:20:02]: Sa di [0:20:03, 0:20:10]: I thought about the the park that's over in Lake Spivey, but it's on the Clayton County side. Yes. And connecting it from there [0:20:11, 0:20:16]: is speaking with the county commissioner from there to the city limits of Stockbridge all the way to our trail. [0:20:16, 0:20:21]: Here at Reeves Creek would be phenomenal. Um, so it's something that I definitely want to work with. [0:20:22, 0:20:36]: and work on as soon as possible. But I appreciate you guys' work on that and getting started on some of the projects, spending some of the T Sploss money. Um, because um on social media, especially next door, um, we hear those concerns a lot. [0:20:37, 0:20:38]: So thank you. [0:20:38, 0:20:41]: Any other questions, Council? Yes. Go right, Mr. Blount. [0:20:42, 0:20:46]: So Mr. Aaron, you saying that every one of these projects you we've acquired the right away? [0:20:48, 0:20:49]: Is that what you're saying to me? [0:20:49, 0:21:09]: It's gonna be some projects that are more involved when it comes to acquiring right-of-way to move forward with those projects. And like I said, these are the projects we identified because we already had the right-of-way and all of that, because we already had sidewalks on Old Atlanta and Davidson Parkway. So those are established. But when we get into areas that we don't [0:21:09, 0:21:10]: [1270.6, 1290.6]: sidewalks or infrastructure currently, then there might be some negotiations for right away and things of that sort. So we were just trying to identify projects that we can get started and and you know to give the residents and the citizens to say, hey, you voted for this a year ago. So we've got these projects that we're starting. But I under I understand. [0:21:30, 0:21:41]: And I thank you for that. Uh but what I'm saying to you is every project on here, you've acquired right away. Because if there are projects on here that you haven't acquired right away, [0:21:41, 0:21:51]: than your ideology on why you're doing it now for certain areas that you haven't acquired right away. Why haven't you done a negotiation in other areas like Paul Stevens? When you look at uh [0:21:52, 0:22:12]: Red Oak Drive from Tide Street all the way to all the way to Flippin' Road on one side is is is is all practically one owner, which is uh Global Impact Christian Ministry. When you look at Tide Street as a whole, uh Ty Street, not Tide Street, but when you look at Red Oak going over to Walt Stevens, you got you got a school there, you got two large churches there, you got a lot of foot traffic. [0:22:12, 0:22:32]: That could go in there, but um so that's why I'm asking the question is how do you determine when you have projects on here that don't have right-of-way acquisitions already, how do you get them on the list versus uh uh other other projects? But these are the projects that were identified in T-SPLOST. Red Oak is not a part of that because it wasn't in the [0:22:32, 0:22:35]: City at the time that the T-SPLOST was voted on. [0:22:35, 0:22:55]: The trails that Miss Gantt referenced is on Walt Stevens Road itself, the portion that was in the city. But there was never any sidewalks allocated in the T-spots for Red Oak Road because that wasn't in the city. The one of the T-SPLOST projects is from North Henry Boulevard down to the city limit sign at four-way stop sign at Red Oak Banks. [0:22:55, 0:23:15]: That that was a project, but there was never anything identified on Red Oak itself or Banks Road. So in the future when it comes to because we do have an annexation piece that's been set in in play, because I'm looking at uh flipping road down two rock [0:23:14, 0:23:34]: Quarry Road when you have this big park and you have kids and you have people are walking down and then doing the renovations at the park. How do you get those type places on the list since they wasn't on a since those that just come into the city? I'm hoping and I'm I'm thinking that you said before this list was formulated. Is that correct? Yes, it wouldn't be a part of this T Splus. We can only do projects that were identified. [0:23:34, 0:23:51]: identified on the T Splos. So that would either be a future T splot or future SPLOS if you want to identify additional areas that came in with the annexation. Ot other than what we see here, do you have other projects already identified on TS? Yes, we're working our way through those projects. [0:23:52, 0:23:56]: Have those projects been sent to council that those T splotch projects? [0:23:56, 0:24:13]: Council approved the T S PLOS list, but no, these are the first projects from T Splots that have been presented to Council, these first four. And going forward, we'll bring additional projects as they get ready or they get to a point where council approval is needed to continue to move forward. [0:24:13, 0:24:14]: Okay. Thank you, sir. [0:24:14, 0:24:18]: Ms. Cant, go ahead please. Thank you. And this may be a question for legal or [0:24:19, 0:24:26]: Well, uh sometimes I feel like I should know it, but the answer to this so uh w number one, is T Sploss not amendable? [0:24:27, 0:24:27]: No. [0:24:29, 0:24:39]: Do we know that? No. Is T splot amendable, especially with exceptions to annexation? That's the first question. The second question is whether [0:24:41, 0:24:46]: Or not the proportionment of cheese blossom. [0:24:47, 0:25:05]: um the tax proportionment, the proportionment that we agree to from the county, whether or not that's amendable. I think we've had that issue already. Um and so the first one is whether or not it's amendable, period. Whether or not it has to be specific. [0:25:05, 0:25:22]: Whether or not the roads that were listed, everything that was listed on T SPLOS was it specific? Does it have to be specific? As well as compared to SPLOST, where you can have broad, you can say, This money is for a capital project, this money is for [0:25:22, 0:25:42]: Okay. So go ahead. So literally I was just writing that question down. Okay. Um, to see c seek clarity, can't be a man based on the annexation was the question I just wrote in my book. Yeah. So I could ask that question because I I'm not sure. Typically when you have a SPLOSS project and you enumerate those projects, you have [0:25:42, 0:26:02]: Of your tier one, tier two, and sometimes to tier three projects. So your tier one projects will be within the confines of what is estimated to be collected. So you have to get those projects done. And the SPLOSS law is specific. If you run out of SPLOS money, you should be finishing those projects with whatever. [0:26:02, 0:26:16]: whatever money you can find. That's in the law. Does it happen? No. Um but there's there's the the other thing with this plus is if we, as um Councilmember Alexander said, if we're projecting higher than [0:26:17, 0:26:18]: What was originally projected? [0:26:19, 0:26:29]: then those additional funds can go to fund your tier two and tier three projects. Um, but I would double check to make sure if can we amend it based on extraordinary circumstances? [0:26:29, 0:26:45]: de annexation. Um and would that allow for us to do that? And if so, I would bring that back to you guys. Uh so we'll formulate a new list and have those guys approve it, have you guys approve it and then take it through the process with the state. But typically once you give that list, that's what you stuck to. [0:26:45, 0:26:49]: Okay, and that list has to be street specific. [0:26:49, 0:27:09]: Or project specific or is it not broad? Yep. Um, T Sploss, um, and working with the T Splos in Fulton County, we were specific. We enumerated every road, all the way down from tier one, tier two, tier three. That was a good one. Is that a month? [0:27:09, 0:27:29]: Or is it is that a requirement that is specific or is it something that was just checked? I I know that that's the big difference between the two because in McDonough when I was there, we just put roadway improvements and we had a lump sum. And so we choose which roads we wanted to do. Exactly. So and I I think that's [0:27:29, 0:27:35]: That's what I'm getting at, even with for in the future, if that is the case, with SPLOST or T SPLOS. [0:27:36, 0:27:41]: Um and I've always been I've always been very vocal on that, to make sure that it is as broad [0:27:41, 0:27:47]: as possible so that when things happen. We can the flexibility to [0:27:47, 0:27:59]: fix a certain thing, do landscaping in a certain area, we're able to actually direct funds where they're needed and not where something's listed, where we had to reallocate so much money from wells that we dug and [0:27:59, 0:28:01]: Um we realized was a waste of time, right? [0:28:02, 0:28:17]: And we have to go back and go through all of the process of changing it. Whereas and if we can change it, then I I want to know whether or not we can change it. I will I will look into that. Okay. In addition to that, I also want to [0:28:18, 0:28:19]: No [0:28:20, 0:28:28]: Whether or not funds from T S PLOS, we had a division of funds, the Henry Count but Henry County, right? [0:28:28, 0:28:31]: Funds were allocated to each city, each municipality. [0:28:32, 0:28:44]: And the county had funds. And then we worked on projects together where we give a portion of a project that was in the city or right. But that was based on [0:28:45, 0:28:54]: Everything prior to annexation. That is correct. So where do we stand now that we have annexed uh I listen, my area [0:28:55, 0:28:56]: Nothing was done. [0:28:58, 0:29:18]: Right. So um all the money was allocated to Ellenwood to a park and specific neighborhoods. But they were all in Ellenwood. Mm-hmm. So now that the area needs major work, people are tires are getting damaged every [0:29:17, 0:29:18]: early day. [0:29:20, 0:29:30]: We have already divided our tax allocation, our money towards that prior to annexation. Is there a way or is it [0:29:30, 0:29:33]: legal or is there something that can be done? [0:29:34, 0:29:37]: where we are allocated the right apportionment. [0:29:39, 0:29:42]: based off of the annexation of things that we've inherited. [0:29:43, 0:29:45]: Just like we are with lost. [0:29:46, 0:29:47]: We we will we will look into that. [0:29:48, 0:30:00]: to see whether or not we have some flexibility in the T sp in the T S plus to be able to to say, Hey, now that we brought in some additional areas, can we enumerate some projects in those new areas that came into the city? [0:30:00, 0:30:20]: Um as long as they weren't on the Henry County side of the sp of the the splos or their T-SPLOST. Um I know Sherry and I have had discussions about this already, uh the county manager, about you know, where we can well we we have projects that was on their side now, there's streets on our side. How can we work together to to make those projects work? [0:30:20, 0:30:21]: [1821.7, 1841.7]: The roadway don't know a resident, a county resident from a city resident. They're they're all citizens of Henry County. That's correct. And so at the end we all gotta travel those roads. And so the better we work together, the better citizens will w get that reward. So we've had that discussions. Um but we'll look into seeing how what how if there is a flexibility in the law, I will tell [0:30:41, 0:30:42]: I eat it. [0:30:42, 0:31:02]: You know, one of the things that were discussed back in the day when the SPLOS originally came out was not having a slush fund for local governments to spread money all over the place. So some of the requirements that came in the SPLOSS law was because the state didn't want to see local governments funding the money everywhere. So they made sure that we enumerated projects to keep us. [0:31:02, 0:31:15]: In in line, but I will double check that to make sure if we have that flexibility, what that process is, and bring that back to you guys. Thank you. Yes, ma'am. Stand by, Councilman uh uh Thomas. Councilman Alexander Guay, please. [0:31:16, 0:31:36]: Yeah, this is this kind of a double edged sword in response to what Councilwoman Gantt's question is. The SPLOSS law is very clear. And what we did in the T SPLOSS is we already enumerated the projects, especially the trail projects. Those projects, you're required to compete, complete what the voters had already put out. [0:31:36, 0:31:56]: Uh, because they voted on it. That's what they voted on it because it was specific. In order to change it, you have to s put it back on the ballot again, and the voters have to vote on it, and then you can change it uh like we did the whales. Now, as far as as far as uh the other requirements in terms of uh movement. [0:31:56, 0:32:16]: Moving around in the annexation. One thing that I did, and I'm gonna put this out there now, is I reached out to Commissioner Thomas about this very issue that Mr. Blount brought up, which is Cochrane Park. Now they're doing all these refurbishments at Covish, Cochrane Park, they're fixing it. I reached out to Councilman, uh Councilwoman. [0:32:16, 0:32:36]: I mean Commissioner Thomas to see whether or not we could work together and get a trail uh on Banks Road to connect that to Rock Quarry Road. Because uh Rock Quarry Road is supposed to be widened and Rock Quarry Road would have that would certainly help us to be able to put our trail plan together. But uh as I said with the [0:32:35, 0:32:55]: Previous discussions on highways is that the commissioners are not off the hook. This money was approved and they have trail money in the SPLOSS, in the T SPLOSS. They have trail money in the T SPLOS budget. They have$12 million for sidewalks or in trails and [0:32:55, 0:33:15]: And then they have additional money for road servicing and all of those projects to be able to done. So I think, as indicated, we need Mr. Gardner to sit down at the table with Ms. Matthews and go over what can be done to get those additional funds into the city. It would be great if we did not have to go. [0:33:15, 0:33:35]: To go through these rigorous discussions. The commissioner could return the phone call, we could talk to them. We could actually have a sit-down discussion versus having a wall of silence at this point. It's incumbent upon all of us to be able to work together in this situation. As you said, Ms. Gantt, a lot of your money. [0:33:35, 0:33:55]: Money went to Ellenwood. It did. And unfortunately, uh those projects were voted on, and we would need uh the commissioner, current commissioner, to work with us to be able to try to work out some of that because there are some broad areas such as the road paving and the sidewalks on the county T splas. Unfortunately, [0:33:55, 0:34:15]: That's a double edged sword because as Mr. Gardner said, the state does require that we do um list the project specifically. And in in addition to that, when it's on the ballot, the voters are looking at it like, yeah, what are you gonna do with the money? So it's like you put some of them on there as a carrot, like the aquatic. [0:34:15, 0:34:30]: Center or some other project because you want the T-SPLOST to pass. So leaving it blank and bold is kind of like it be it's in our benefit to do that to spread it around, but to get it the initiative pass, we certainly need to have specific, some specific projects under. [0:34:31, 0:34:51]: Mr. Thomas, please. Thank you, Mayor. Um Councilman Alexander, um that was the issue that I was going to uh raise that uh from the city of Stockbridge to list the projects. Uh they were listed, they were Pacific, and that's those are the projects that the citizens voted on. [0:34:51, 0:34:54]: during the referendum. So I understand [0:34:54, 0:35:14]: Mr. Garner and and his research, but um but I think you hit it the nail on the head when you indicated that those projects were listed from the City of Stockbridge standpoint, and those are the projects that the citizen voted on in the referendum. So I'm I'm agreeing with you uh on that on the facts that you [0:35:14, 0:35:15]: mention. [0:35:17, 0:35:28]: Okay, so any other comments. Ms. Barber, go ahead, please, Mayor Protec. Okay. So I know that we have allocated or have projects that we focused on in the downtown area. [0:35:29, 0:35:32]: Since my district is the district that is [0:35:32, 0:35:33]: Elongated. [0:35:33, 0:35:40]: From the east side of the city to the northern end of the city. What I'm most concerned about is not the downtown area, because I know we've got that. [0:35:41, 0:35:42]: Cannon. [0:35:42, 0:35:43]: Uh [0:35:43, 0:35:45]: assigned and we're working through it. [0:35:45, 0:35:47]: It's the northern end. [0:35:48, 0:35:51]: The northern end of North Henry Bolvard. [0:35:51, 0:35:51]: Um [0:35:52, 0:36:02]: Valley Hill Road, they don't have streetlights, um, they don't have sidewalks. So I don't know how much of the portion of Valley Hill Road, um [0:36:03, 0:36:06]: May be included in the city and what is [0:36:06, 0:36:11]: was in the county that is now annexed into the city. So I wanna ask [0:36:11, 0:36:13]: Um, Mr. Erin. [0:36:13, 0:36:15]: Can you speak to that? [0:36:16, 0:36:36]: Uh yes. Uh prior to annexation, none of Valley Hill was in the city. The only thing that was in the city was the subdivision. I think it's Pine Pine Grove. That was the only part that was in the city. Valley Hill Drive was a county-maintained road. Okay, so that is a road that we need to add. [0:36:36, 0:36:39]: to our list if at all possible, if we're able to amend [0:36:40, 0:36:42]: RT splash list. That's all. [0:36:42, 0:37:02]: All right. And all the questions, yeah, Mr. Well, I just want to make a recommendation, but I don't see Mr. Gardner, but Mr. Aaron. I I would recommend that uh since we have went forward with annexation, I I think, Mr. Gardner, I think at some point in time we have to now come back and look. [0:37:02, 0:37:06]: at those areas that were not [0:37:07, 0:37:14]: included in these projects and do some type of of an assessment and and see how how do we go forward. [0:37:15, 0:37:35]: To include uh those new areas in into these projects. So I don't wouldn't want us to sort of you know go back and forth here at this point, but I do agree that we now have to take that in consideration. And I think uh staff and hopefully we can sort of direct staff now to go back. [0:37:34, 0:37:37]: and look at how do we include [0:37:38, 0:37:40]: those annex areas into [0:37:40, 0:37:45]: the total scheme of things to sort of, you know, improve those areas. [0:37:45, 0:38:05]: Yes, sir. And I and I will tell you, I just got a response from a question that I asked a colleague, and they pretty much told me that you can't can't amend SPLOSS once your list is is what it is. Um but I will tell you that what we can't look at is and and touch on once again what Councilmember Alexander said was if we are [0:38:05, 0:38:08]: projecting ahead of what we were expecting to get. [0:38:09, 0:38:29]: then we can look at how do we from that excess, how do we now move some of these new projects into and fund them with the excess that that is coming from because that gives us the flexibility if we and we'll look at the list and make sure that how we enumerated those projects um as tier one and a tier one [0:38:29, 0:38:49]: tier two was required under the T S Plus and uh and then counties are different and Fulton County's a different animal with the city of Atlanta from everybody else. But I will double check to make sure and if we could do it that way, then that that's the way we'll look at it. But we'll bring this back to you guys in terms of what we find in terms of the the flexibility if there exists any. [0:38:49, 0:38:53]: that would allow for us to add these new streets in otherwise we're gonna have to find some other way to do it. [0:38:54, 0:39:06]: Thank you, sir. Ms. Gantt, do you have one last comment? No, that that covers it. I was just gonna tell Councilman Thomas that's exactly what I was asking initially. That's what I that's the statement that I made. Um I think we just probably [0:39:06, 0:39:20]: need to really focus in on what we can do. Um we now realize mayor and council we understand that there are roads that we just inherited and w we've been over this over and over again that we have to [0:39:20, 0:39:21]: Um [0:39:21, 0:39:23]: Go back and review [0:39:24, 0:39:26]: And now change the list up a little bit, maybe. [0:39:26, 0:39:28]: And if if we can. [0:39:28, 0:39:34]: And so there's gonna have to be some type of flex hopefully there's some type of flexibility, um, for that. [0:39:35, 0:39:35]: But um [0:39:36, 0:39:56]: I look forward to it. I hope that we can resolve these issues. Well, one of the things I think we've got working in our favor is old Atlanta Road and Davidson Parkway, as part of the T SPLOSS it said resurfacing and sidewalks, but we resurface those roads under SPLOSS so we don't have to worry about resurfacing those roads. [0:39:56, 0:40:15]: And I think the money budgeted for those two projects was rather generous. So when we do these, these projects that we got based on the allocation, what we allocated, it'll give us an idea of if we're gonna possibly have money that we can move elsewhere because I think it's like two and a half million dollars for sidewalks on. [0:40:16, 0:40:22]: Davison Parkway. So we'll have an idea once we do these few projects. [0:40:22, 0:40:29]: Where are we gonna be at financially when it comes to being able to supplement and do other projects?'Cause like I said, the resurfacing and [0:40:29, 0:40:43]: on Old Atlanta and Davidson Parkway are no longer needed because we resurfaced it on the splash. So we should realize the savings on those two projects. So this would once they're started and done, we'll get an idea of what we're gonna spend. [0:40:44, 0:41:01]: Thank you. All right, let's make this last yes, sir. Stay stand by please. Mr. Alexander, you had your hand up? One last minute comment. Those roads were in unincorporated Henry County. They were on the T splot ballot. The county got the money. Okay. Good deal. Mr. Blanc, go ahead, please. [0:41:01, 0:41:09]: Yeah, just for clarity for those that are watching, um, is that when we come came January the first. [0:41:10, 0:41:15]: Um this city did have certain roads and certain things on the T-SPLOST. [0:41:16, 0:41:20]: There's not one road that I see on this T-SPLOST. [0:41:20, 0:41:22]: Everything on here benefits the city. [0:41:22, 0:41:23]: Let me just say that. [0:41:24, 0:41:28]: Everything that we're talking about doing benefits the city of Stockbridge. [0:41:29, 0:41:35]: One of the things the citizens has to also understand that came January first, the city broke up into districts. [0:41:35, 0:41:38]: then we're not all at large, we're all in districts. [0:41:39, 0:41:50]: And so uh some of these questions and four thoughts now are that can we um do in a min but get other monies in, not only just that these are good roles to do. [0:41:50, 0:41:53]: But can we also do'em in the district that we serve? [0:41:53, 0:41:55]: Because there are niece all over the city. [0:41:56, 0:42:14]: And these are the things that we're talking about. We're not trying to say that something has been done behind the doors. We're trying to say we want to see other funding out front so we can facilitate and fulfill the needs of our own districts, as well as uh street lights over uh on Valley Hill, as well as uh uh uh [0:42:14, 0:42:20]: uh Walt Stevens being uh potholes and everything being repaired on there as well as uh um [0:42:21, 0:42:41]: uh banks road and everywhere getting you know, we just wanna see how can we facilitate as much as we could, uh much as we can when now when we get funding sources that those funds are spin it out into areas where it benefits uh everybody's getting a portion to benefit the uh different areas. So I think [0:42:40, 0:42:49]: That's the elephant in the room that we need to look at. That we're not uh everything benefits the city, but we're also concerned about our districts. [0:42:50, 0:43:10]: All right, on that note, uh Council need a motion to accept this proposal, please? So Mr. Blount, this Mr. Mayor. Yep. Yes, sir. I would like to ask that since this is in Councilman Thomas's district, that that we do we start letting the district council member do that because it's it's in his district, but it is up to the council what to do. [0:43:10, 0:43:12]: Okay. I need a second to the motion, please. [0:43:12, 0:43:15]: I second or councilman tell us you want a second? [0:43:16, 0:43:25]: Okay. All right, good deal. Motion to be seconded. Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. Uh Mr Councilman Allen, I have been in communication excuse. [0:43:26, 0:43:34]: I have been in communication with Mr. Air and we have had these discussions. So um I'm familiar with um the projects going forward. [0:43:34, 0:43:40]: Good deal. Motion has been made the second. All in favor, please indicate all opposed? [0:43:40, 0:43:44]: You four or against it? Okay. Unanimous decision. Thank you very much, gentlemen. [0:43:44, 0:43:46]: Five oh passed. [0:43:50, 0:43:51]: Alrighty. [0:43:53, 0:44:07]: Council consideration to approve task order two zero two three- zero four with Falcon Design, Tie Street, ten f uh ten foot sidewalks in amount of one hundred nineteen thousand five hundred dollars. The funding source is T S PLOSS. Mr. Aaron, Mr. Goodwin, please. [0:44:08, 0:44:19]: Uh yes, we asked that uh council approve uh tie street ten foot sidewalks in the amount of one hundred and nineteen thousand five hundred dollars uh out of the estimated total budget of two point two million dollars. [0:44:20, 0:44:23]: Okay, any questions? So council at all on this? [0:44:24, 0:44:44]: Okay, no questions? Yes, sir, please. Uh I I I I think looking at the agenda, uh most of these discussions are gonna be the same. But I will go ahead now if there's no question uh to motion uh to accept as proposed. Okay, good deal, sir. Second to the motion. Second. So Miss Barber second that uh all in favor, please indicate. Now she says, Thank you very much. [0:44:44, 0:44:44]: Mm. [0:44:46, 0:45:00]: Council uh uh consideration to approve task order two zero two three point zero five with Falcon Design, Peace Drive, ten foot uh sidewalks, an amount of forty one thousand five hundred dollars. Once again, a funding source of T-SPLOST. Mr. Aaron, Mr. Goodwin, please. [0:45:00, 0:45:12]: Uh yes, we asked that uh council approve Peach Drive uh ten foot sidewalks in the amount of forty one thousand five hundred dollars uh out of the estimated total budget of um three hundred thousand dollars. [0:45:13, 0:45:31]: Okay. Yes, uh as a district five a council member, I'd like to make a motion to approve the recommendation by council for Peach Drive sidewalks. Is there a second to motion? I second. I'm sorry, move down here. Mr. Blount, I mean Mr. Mr. Thomas, second down. Okay. All in favor, please indicate. [0:45:31, 0:45:33]: Unanimous decision. Thank you very much. [0:45:35, 0:45:47]: Council consideration approved task order number two zero two three point zero six, Falcon Design, Old Atlanta Road, ten foot sidewalks, an amount of ninety four thousand dollars. Funding source, T S PLOSS, Mr. Aaron, uh Mr. Goodwin, please. [0:45:47, 0:46:07]: Um yes, we asked that uh council approve old Atlanta Road for ten foot sidewalks in the amount of ninety-four thousand dollars out of the estimated total budget of one point five million dollars. Thank you. Motion Mission approved. Ms. Ms. Barber, uh Member Pro Tem Barber, motion that's a second. Second. Mr. Thomas, second that all in favor, please indicate unanimous decision. Thank you. [0:46:07, 0:46:08]: Thank you very much. [0:46:10, 0:46:30]: All right, Council Consideration approved the renewal of the term contract two zero one nine-zero zero zero two two two P facility maintenance solutions ground keeper landscape between CGL facilities management LLC and amount of two hundred thousand dollars. Funding source is the public works department budgeted funds. Mr. Aaron, please. [0:46:30, 0:46:50]: Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. Uh CGL is on a state contract. The council initially approved us using CGL on July 8th, 2019, Resolution R19-1077. They're our contractor who cut numerous roads for us. They maintain Highway 138 West, Hudson. [0:46:50, 0:47:06]: Bridge Road, North Henry Boulevard, Rock Quarry Road, Walt Stevens Road, Old Atlanta Road, Flippin' Road, Davison Parkway, East Atlanta Road, Highway 138, East of I 75, Jodico Road, and Campground Road. And [0:47:07, 0:47:21]: Council had always said it was some roads, major thoroughfares that you want to maintain more frequently. These roads are maintained weekly. And so it has been a good relationship between CGL and the city. And we're asking you to renew this contract for another year. [0:47:22, 0:47:42]: Thank you, Ms. Aaron. Go ahead. I'm sorry? Yeah. Ms. Go ahead, Mr. Alison. Yes, I'd like to say uh thank you because uh these have made a tremendous difference in the city. I would just like to say that uh of course we want to look at expanding and we talk about the annex areas, adding other areas to this list as well as the council gets to [0:47:42, 0:48:02]: together probably at our budget retreat to decide additional roads that would need to be added or you know based on what uh the budgetary restraints are but certainly I want to certainly in support of this particular program. I would like to go ahead and make a motion if nobody has questions. Go go right here, sir. A motion for approval. Oh is there a second? I have a question [0:48:02, 0:48:12]: question okay mayor pro tem barber second that motion all in favor please indicate I have a question oh I'm sorry I thought excuse me. Second okay Mr. Blount second that now question for you [0:48:13, 0:48:33]: Okay. Mr. Aaron, the original contract um the council approved for the hundred and fifty thousand. I see this one is for two hundred thousand. What's the difference? What roads have been added? Well we we added additional roads. The additional roads we we added were Jodico Road and Campground Road were [0:48:33, 0:48:39]: were were added along with some um uh uh areas on one hundred thirty eight. [0:48:41, 0:48:47]: It was I think one thirty eight between the holiday in and I think the tire store. So we added some additional areas. Thank you, sir. [0:48:48, 0:48:57]: Okay, motion was made by Mr. Alexander and Mr. Blount second that. Any other questions or concerns? If not, all in favor, please indicate. Okay, unanimous decision. Thank you very much. [0:49:00, 0:49:09]: Council consideration approve the renewal contract at 2019-0032P. Johnson Control Security Solutions LLC. [0:49:10, 0:49:30]: Tycho integrated security LLC for the facility equipment systems and services, an amount of$100,000. Funding sourced from the government building budget of funds. Mr. Aaron, please. Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. Johnson Control maintains the city's access control system, the fire alarm system, and the burglar alarm system, and these are the monitoring. [0:49:30, 0:49:40]: fees that are associated with those systems as well as the routine maintenance of these systems. So we're asking Mayor and Council to approve the renewal of this agreement with Johnson Control. [0:49:40, 0:49:42]: Questions for Mr. Aaron Counsel. [0:49:43, 0:49:44]: Go right ahead, please. [0:49:44, 0:50:00]: Talk to so everybody understands what um buildings are included in this contract so that they can understand that their their assets are being protected. I know at one point we were trying to get Merl Manders installed. Is Merlmanders installed now? [0:50:00, 0:50:20]: Yes, sir. City Hall, Municipal Court, the Amphitheater, the Police Department, the Welcome Center, formerly the Ted Strickland Community Center, Merrman's Conference Center, Merrill Manders Conference Center, Administrative Building, Public Works Administrative Building, the Maintenance Shop and the Wastewater Treatment Plant. So this includes like Ken. [0:50:20, 0:50:25]: cameras, access control, burglar alarm and and a fire monitoring. [0:50:25, 0:50:31]: So who does that? Is it amphithe did you say the amphitheater or no? Yes, the amphitheater is on there as well. Yeah. [0:50:32, 0:50:33]: Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. [0:50:33, 0:50:53]: Put the council to approve this contract with the uh Johnson control security solutions for one hundred thousand dollars. Okay, that's the motion. Is there a second to the motion? Second. Miss Barber sec second down favorite, please indicate. So you now have the decision. Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Towns. All right. You're welcome. Council consideration approve the budget, excuse me, approve the purchase of seven. [0:50:53, 0:51:04]: Fleet three in-car camera systems with integrated license plate readers. The cost of the camera system and license plate readers is$116,585.60. [0:51:04, 0:51:24]: The city has approved these items as part of the 2023 capital budget presented by Major Richard Coffrey. Sir, please. Mayor, City Council members, good evening. Uh if approved, uh this agenda item will allow us to purchase seven additional axon in-car camera systems with again the built-in license plate readers. Uh [0:51:24, 0:51:44]: This will be for the seven patrol cars that you previously approved on the last uh council meeting. Uh this is a sole source purchase directly from Axon and it was vetted uh through legal. Uh again, as the mayor stated, this is part of our overall uh capital funds approved as the FY twenty-three fiscal budget. Good deal. [0:51:44, 0:51:46]: Any questions, Council for Major Godfrey? [0:51:48, 0:51:52]: Mayor. Yes sir, go ahead please. I'd like for the council to approve. If there's not any questions. [0:51:52, 0:51:58]: Okay. Mr. Uh Bunt just made a motion. Is there a second? A second. Ms. Nant, second now. All I'm fair, please indicate. [0:51:59, 0:52:02]: Fantastic. Unamous decision. Thank you. Outstanding. [0:52:05, 0:52:25]: Council consideration to amend the city of Stop Ray's Municipal Code Section 5.16.050, rules of internment administration fee from one hundred dollars to two hundred dollars and assessing the unauthorized internment penalty in the amount of one thousand dollars. Presented by our clerk Vanessa Halde, please. Good evening, Mayor and Council. [0:52:26, 0:52:44]: This item actually the fees were included as an addendum to the fiscal twenty twenty three budget. So you all pass that. However, for us to change the code, I would need an ordinance to submit to Munichode so that our funeral homes and whatever can go out and see the actual changes in the code. [0:52:44, 0:52:47]: Um with these new fees. [0:52:47, 0:53:07]: Out of curiosity, Vanessa, I I I I should know the answer to this, but when was the last time we made a change like this at all? Do you recall? When we added the fee of one hundred dollars for admin fee in twenty nineteen. Good deal. Thank you. Council, any questions at all from Ms. Holiday? Yeah. Go write it, please. What's the surrounding jurisdictions? [0:53:07, 0:53:09]: What are they charging for this? [0:53:10, 0:53:14]: Do you have any idea? Do we do any comparisons? [0:53:14, 0:53:34]: I do not. What we did was we spoke with legal and we uh spoke with our the judge and we also spoke with the police department because what was happening was we were having interments that were unauthorized. The code allows us to in our city code currently allows us to charge up to the amount that we're [0:53:34, 0:53:36]: Yeah. [0:53:36, 0:53:38]: That's already in the code. [0:53:39, 0:53:59]: Okay, the only thing that I had, and I know I'm gonna slow up the meeting, is that what were we charging for people who just did in turn without permission? You know, somebody might have went out there, didn't know what the rules were or what have you. Then what were we w was there previously a penalty for it or no? There was no penalty being assessed. [0:53:59, 0:54:15]: it was a slap on the hand, but it is serious to inter a body without notifying the city of doing so. The code currently allows for us to implement a penalty up to the amount that we're requesting. [0:54:16, 0:54:18]: It's already out there. It's in the code. Okay. Yeah. [0:54:19, 0:54:22]: Ms. Holiday, thank you. [0:54:22, 0:54:42]: And it's kinda in line with what Mr. Alexander was saying. Uh see w when we implement fees and and and um penalties, I I like to have a basis on why we where the amounts come from other than we saying this is what we're gonna do. Is that in line with anybody? But but but it goes back to also when [0:54:42, 0:54:45]: The m the administration fee was$100. [0:54:47, 0:54:55]: How is two hundred dollars gonna stop them from doing what we was doing for a hundred dollars? Well, we've had to go and assess that frequently. [0:54:55, 0:55:08]: So we send it out to at least there's fifty or more funeral homes throughout the area that we send that c uh ordinance to and the information. And we still, right up the street, we have one [0:55:09, 0:55:11]: Habitual violator. [0:55:11, 0:55:21]: That is why we spoke about the penalty, which we are allowed to assess, is already in the code, and the fact that the the council already approved [0:55:22, 0:55:22]: The fee [0:55:23, 0:55:24]: Schedule. [0:55:24, 0:55:31]: This is the ordinance that I need to send to Municode in order to implement it into the into the city's code. [0:55:32, 0:55:36]: But I have a question. It was approved with the budget uh for fiscal year twenty twenty three already. [0:55:37, 0:55:38]: But I have a question. [0:55:38, 0:55:42]: On anything, if we have an habitual offender when it comes to any business. [0:55:44, 0:55:45]: Isn't that [0:55:45, 0:55:49]: D doesn't doesn't we get involved when it comes to their licenses to operate? [0:55:51, 0:56:01]: Not from my not from the clerk's office. No, no, not from no no. I'm talking about from the city of Stockbridge, period. The clerk officer can tell whoever it is that says it's a habitual offender, whether it's [0:56:01, 0:56:03]: Funeral homes of anybody. [0:56:03, 0:56:05]: if they have b habitual offenders [0:56:06, 0:56:08]: Then we have a system here in the city of Stockbridge. [0:56:09, 0:56:11]: that deals with their licenses to operate. [0:56:12, 0:56:15]: I'm not aware of that. Mr. Gardner. [0:56:16, 0:56:18]: Could it um [0:56:18, 0:56:23]: If we have habitual f offenders in any business operations. [0:56:23, 0:56:28]: Then we have something to set that that deals with their licensing to operate in the city of Stockbridge. [0:56:30, 0:56:31]: Can you s can you say it again? I'm sorry. [0:56:32, 0:56:52]: If there's an habitual offender of a process that we have here when it comes to businesses, can we revoke that business license? Or is that penalty? Do we have anything in place that affects the op uh the license to operate in the city of Stop Right? Uh I would assume that we have some penalties listed in our business license. [0:56:52, 0:56:55]: license ordinance that requires that if they [0:56:55, 0:57:00]: break the law in any such way, we should be able to uh uh put forth a penalty. [0:57:00, 0:57:02]: Be and the reason I'm asking that is because [0:57:03, 0:57:08]: For me, before we add on to something, let's correct what we already have. [0:57:08, 0:57:13]: And if we can say someone's a habitual offender, then what grounds does the city have? [0:57:13, 0:57:18]: in order to rectify the situation with a with that particular [0:57:18, 0:57:21]: business because adding on [0:57:22, 0:57:31]: affects other people that ha are not habitual offenders, but we need to fix what needs to be fixed before we start to add on in order to [0:57:32, 0:57:52]: A hundred dollars or two hundred dollars not gonna stop me from doing what I'm doing if I'm a habitual offender. Mm-hmm. No, no, no. I understand you're saying change the code, but what's already in in place now is what my concern is. Let me be clear. The one hundred dollar fee or now the the imposed two hundred dollar fee, that is an administrative fee because um [0:57:52, 0:58:11]: Public workers works is required to go to on the site when there is a burial, whenever someone is digging for a burial. That's an administrative fee. The$1,000 is a penalty when you do not abide by the current policy for interments. [0:58:11, 0:58:16]: The code currently allows for the city to assess that fee. [0:58:16, 0:58:20]: We em we added a gate. [0:58:20, 0:58:22]: At the city of Stockbridge. [0:58:23, 0:58:25]: cemetery, we have requested in our budget [0:58:26, 0:58:29]: For a second gate, we have two cemeteries to be added to Burke. [0:58:29, 0:58:30]: cemetery. [0:58:30, 0:58:32]: So that we don't have [0:58:32, 0:58:33]: People coming. [0:58:34, 0:58:37]: And in turning without [0:58:37, 0:58:41]: Following the procedures. And and I get that Ms. I I I get what you're saying. [0:58:41, 0:58:45]: But when you're talking about federal home business [0:58:45, 0:59:02]: There are so many areas you can nickel and dime and get this penalty fee that it doesn't cost you anything because you put it out there and it costs the people and they're paying it. What I'm saying is, how do we go at these businesses that are habitual offenders? [0:59:03, 0:59:09]: for as operating in the city of Stockbridge without because this thousand dollar penalty doesn't stop that. [0:59:11, 0:59:14]: It's our policies that are in place to enforce stocks. [0:59:15, 0:59:15]: Mm-hmm. [0:59:19, 0:59:24]: I I I'm not sure I understand your question, Mr. Blount. I really don't. [0:59:25, 0:59:35]: Is anybody understand what I'm saying? Mr. Blount, I I will I was uh I asked a question just now of of the city clerk. Um [0:59:36, 0:59:54]: can a funeral home outside of Henry County bury somebody here? So that means even if they're habitual, if they're not located in Henry County, there's no way that we could tie a penalty or revoke their business license. Cause they're not licensed their li their business license is not [0:59:55, 1:00:14]: Not issued in in by the city or or by um Henry County. Mr. Garner, I appreciate that, but I'm only I'm only answering the question off the information that was just given. Yes, sir. And the information that was just given wasn't outside of Stockbridge. It was inside Stockbridge. Okay. I I didn't have a problem, sorry. [1:00:15, 1:00:18]: And I and I I may have been a little tough with the word, um [1:00:19, 1:00:29]: Habitual. I will just say we have on more than three occasions in the last five years had to send them a an invoice for their administrative fee. [1:00:30, 1:00:41]: N and and I and and that and that's fair to to to not say habitual if you if you so that might have been a little strong. But that's okay. But I'm saying is though, but how are we [1:00:41, 1:00:49]: How are we enforcing now with the fees before we implement a higher fee and before we implement this penalty? How are we doing that? [1:00:49, 1:00:55]: Well we've notified. We we we notify every funeral home. [1:00:55, 1:01:15]: Um in this area and and outside of this area. We notify everybody on what we've we send them a copy of our ordinance, we send them a copy of our uh code, the policy and all of that. They receive that. It's on our website and everything. There's no reason that anybody should be interring anyone without contacting this city. But just and it [1:01:15, 1:01:19]: But just notification says I see you. [1:01:20, 1:01:24]: And they'll say, I don't care because you're doing nothing about it. [1:01:25, 1:01:31]: But that's why we're implementing the penalty. Before we only had an administrative fee. [1:01:31, 1:01:32]: Which [1:01:32, 1:01:37]: um for public works and the clerk's office going out there, that's all we had before. [1:01:37, 1:01:44]: And let me say this as well. We are full. Our sin since I've been here when I came in 2009, there were no plots available. [1:01:45, 1:01:58]: What has happened, the frequency of burials has increased because those people have aged and we are having more burials. That is why we are seeing more activity now. They we've been full for [1:01:59, 1:02:04]: Decades they've sold the plots, but now they're being interred. [1:02:06, 1:02:22]: Okay. Ms. Gantt, go ahead, sir. Thank you. Um to answer Councilman Blount's question about habitual violators, in regards to that, most times in the ordinance, and it could have changed, but when I was a solicitor, we had habitual code we have certain code sections. [1:02:23, 1:02:25]: that we include [1:02:25, 1:02:31]: the penalty for habitual violators. But I don't believe it's anything to do with the cemetery. [1:02:31, 1:02:35]: Um I looked up McDonough's fee, it's a hundred dollars. [1:02:35, 1:02:38]: right now currently for their application fee. [1:02:38, 1:02:39]: They're um [1:02:40, 1:02:43]: Admin fee. The admin fee perhaps. Is a hundred dollars. [1:02:45, 1:02:47]: But that doesn't mean [1:02:47, 1:03:00]: that we shouldn't change ours to two. And I don't know how old theirs is. Ours was very old. Right. So I get it. I I get it. I'm not saying we shouldn't change. I c I would like to know [1:03:01, 1:03:03]: kind of what's the going rate right now. [1:03:03, 1:03:18]: I'm I'm interested in that in general. You mean for the penalty for for the admin fee in general and the penalty. Oh, the penalty I'm okay with with up to a thousand dollars. That's in our code already. Right. I'm okay with that. But for the [1:03:19, 1:03:19]: Um [1:03:20, 1:03:23]: And maybe we ha need to have some type of policy in place where [1:03:23, 1:03:28]: that is determined, listen, this has happened more than once. This is a fine for one time, this is fine for [1:03:28, 1:03:35]: you know, the second time and usually a habitual violator is the third time. So um [1:03:35, 1:03:38]: But in regards to cemetery at Memphi. [1:03:38, 1:03:40]: I'm just curious. [1:03:40, 1:03:44]: as to where the one hundred to two hundred came from. [1:03:44, 1:03:46]: I I would like to know [1:03:47, 1:04:01]: I don't know if it's three hundred in most places. I don't know. I'm just saying I would like to know that w what would be the normal the normal Well we we increased and we also uh met with public works with having um them go through the cemeteries more often because we were [1:04:02, 1:04:17]: Noticing um people somebody was going in there with trash and that is why we implemented the fence. It's a twenty something thousand thousand dollar fence. It's more than that uh now and it would cost us more to get the other one and we don't have that in budget. We're trying to do it for twenty twenty four. [1:04:17, 1:04:37]: But there was more frequency there. So we have staff goes out and visits the cemetery now three days out of w out of the week. We also, you know, monitor the uh obituaries so that we make sure we make sure that and that's how we find some of these things. Um but that we are visiting and spending more time [1:04:37, 1:04:49]: in the cemeteries now than we were before. Right. So it is costing us to go out there to mow that's alarming that we don't have the record of someone being buried in the cemetery. I agree. I think that's very [1:04:50, 1:05:08]: Concerning and we implemented we have a digital uh cemetery plot now. We you all approved that software for us last year, so we had a company that goes out, we and we have a digital plot and everything now. So it it is a lot to maintain and to make sure that we do not have unauthorized interments. Okay. [1:05:09, 1:05:29]: Yes, uh m I'm gonna have to agree with Councilwoman Gantt and what I had stated originally. I applaud what you're doing, Miss Holliday, but I would like to have some data on the surrounding area, not just in Henry County, because like you said, McDonough might not have changed their fee for the last twenty years. [1:05:29, 1:05:49]: But I would like a Metro Atlanta-wide fee so we could have it based on that. Because what's going on in our area is it's not like it used to be, where things are much higher on the north side and lower than not anymore. So everybody, including inflation, the prices have gone up. So I would like if you would consider [1:05:49, 1:06:09]: To come back and bring us some data from what we have wide. And then, even as you said, if we have a habitual violator, is that fee? Does that fee? That person is repetitive, then that fee needs to escalate. How does that work? You do it, you get slapped on the phone. [1:06:09, 1:06:29]: on the hand, you get a thousand dollar fine, you do it again, the fine ought to be two thousand or five thousand. So you've got a warning one time. So though that's the kind of I would like to see that this overhaul include what we're doing Metro Atlanta wide and then that fee to escalate, not just be stuck at a thousand dollar. We might have to change the ordinance. [1:06:28, 1:06:48]: But if you do it one time, you already know. You do it again, it oughta be five thousand if that's legal. I I just need to clarify. Yeah. The pot especially with this particular friend of home, no one has buried anyone without notifying us. They have not paid their administration fee. And we had to go [1:06:48, 1:06:57]: Back and have them pay the administration fee. So that's nobody's not burying anybody without notifying us. However, [1:06:58, 1:07:03]: In the event that someone does, because it can happen. [1:07:03, 1:07:10]: There is a there is the option in the city's current code to allow for that penalty. [1:07:11, 1:07:21]: Okay. Now let me say something else. This was just to get the ordinance to submit to Unicode so that what was already approved by this council [1:07:21, 1:07:41]: would be included in the code. So what you are asking now at this point is to rescind that. Is that what you're suggesting? I don't think that's the same thing. That's not what I'm asking. I'm asking if you could come back at the very next meeting with a met kind of a Metro Atlanta wide chart for the internment so we could understand that and make sure that we're competitive. [1:07:41, 1:07:54]: Because people are coming from everywhere to and they're looking for it. If it it might be a hundred here, it might be five hundred somewhere else. What is it? I want to know what it is so to make sure we're competitive. And then I want to s make sure that [1:07:55, 1:08:07]: Quentin, uh our legal team looks at it and then as you said, if somebody did this one time, there should be no way that you should do it again. The fees should escalate. It should t thousand dollars should not be the cap. [1:08:07, 1:08:27]: Well that's the code. That's the code. Right. But the code need to be changed. If you did that one time, which is despicable, and you did it again, you buried somebody without permission, you know, that's that's a whole nother level. You v you you just thumbed your nose at the authority, you got a thousand dollar fine, and you did it again? Yeah. [1:08:27, 1:08:47]: So clarify, no one has done that. This is the issue of the process. Okay. So what you're asking for, Councilman Alexander, is something that probably the council, the rest of the council needs to make sure that if we're giving some guidance here that the that the council has in has a consensus. [1:08:47, 1:09:07]: us to move forward in that type of direction and task in this as aspect. Question. Go ahead, please. If that comes back in the administration fee is$500,$1,000 on average, are you wanting to go back and amend the budget to increase the fee? Yes. Well that's once again, that's one person's uh uh viewpoint, but we gotta make sure we got a consensus in the council. [1:09:07, 1:09:18]: Whatever it comes back at as the average, I certainly would. Okay. Go ahead, quick question. You're up there for a reason. Let me ask the question because maybe he can answer if you don't mind before he Go ahead, Mr. Go ahead, Miss Blount. [1:09:19, 1:09:21]: Under what you're doing for me. [1:09:22, 1:09:30]: If the fee is two hundred dollars, okay, if it's a hundred dollars, okay, I'm looking at that. But mine is that if we're gonna do anything to this code, [1:09:31, 1:09:33]: Биказ анадис код. [1:09:34, 1:09:38]: We aren't we're not even able to put liens or do anything. [1:09:38, 1:09:49]: For any violations, we shall not do that under this code. No, we spoke with the chief in having this go to the court, so we we had that conversation. You wanna speak to him? Yeah, but under but but the code doesn't speak to that. [1:09:49, 1:09:51]: Well well, here's what it does. When we [1:09:52, 1:10:12]: You all have a catch-all that says any violation of an ordinance in Stockbridge is punishable with at an at the municipal court level with up to a thousand dollar fine and jail time. What we hope to do and what we have done in the proposed ordinance is to clarify. [1:10:12, 1:10:32]: That to say that if it is an unlawful internment, it would then kick over to code enforcement who would go out and ticket the person. The person then goes to municipal court and they adjudicate what the fine and whether what and the other sanctions that they would have at municipal court, which could be up to a [1:10:32, 1:10:52]: thousand dollar fine and some level of jail time if that's decided. But that would then we're clarifying that so that if code enforcement is called, then go out and write the ticket for the person to come to municipal court and they deal with it there. Now the admin fee is an admin fee which is completely separate, but the penalty of up to the thousand dollar for the unlawful internment [1:10:52, 1:10:52]: That's [1:10:53, 1:11:04]: what the procedure would be is they would be ticketed by code enforcement and then they'd kick over to the municipal court to deal with. But but but then it goes back to what I was saying, Quincy, is that [1:11:04, 1:11:08]: If under our code, City of Stockbridge Code [1:11:08, 1:11:20]: doesn't allow for liens or anything to get any any p uh monies back for violations and you go to court [1:11:20, 1:11:40]: and they implement Cedar Stockbridge Court, then that's a litigated situation because in our code you don't, but the court's saying you can, we have to make sure we're changing everything that lines up with the courts before we sit here and change if the policy gonna have to be changed, change everything that it lines up with the court. Read the policy. [1:11:40, 1:11:48]: I guess I'm councilman blonde. I guess the clarification of the lien situation is is different in this context. We're not [1:11:49, 1:12:09]: Leaning, so if a if there's a violator, whether that's a business or whether that's an individual, if code enforcement is called and they go out and ticket that person, they then go to court and they would be fined that amount of money. And if they don't pay that amount of money, separate from a lien or anything, if they don't pay that amount of money, they could face sanctions for [1:12:09, 1:12:10]: Or [1:12:10, 1:12:16]: They could face sanctions which would be including jail time or probation if they pay it. Yeah, but what I'm saying, and I and I appreciate that. [1:12:18, 1:12:22]: But it's up to the court to say, rubber, they're gonna do liens for money. [1:12:22, 1:12:28]: But it needs to be lined up if if we need to have wouldn't we have to have word in front of the city? [1:12:28, 1:12:31]: It says that this can be implemented by the courts? What I'm partying. [1:12:32, 1:12:34]: When you read the if you read the code on it. [1:12:36, 1:12:37]: On violations. I [1:12:38, 1:12:46]: Because I I think we need to talk about this further. We're gonna uh um you know table it, but fine. What I'm saying is. [1:12:47, 1:12:51]: The court can't do no more than what our code says is allowable. [1:12:51, 1:12:56]: That's on any of our lines. Right. But the code can the code still [1:12:56, 1:13:07]: You have a catch-all in y'all's code in our code, which says that any municipal ordinance can be up to a thousand dollar fine and also have civil or criminal contempt. [1:13:07, 1:13:23]: which would be jail time attached to it. Right? What this is saying is this is clarifying that for an unlawful internment that the penalties would be, as already known in our code section, up to a thousand dollar fine and civil and criminal con or civil and criminal contempt. [1:13:23, 1:13:25]: And so that's what the [1:13:25, 1:13:31]: That's what the clarification is that would then be a separate adjudication at the municipal court level. [1:13:32, 1:13:52]: That's separate and apart from a lien or anything like that because liens have a different process that they go by. But this process is if an individual or a company is noted, that individual or company would then come to court and then go from there. But if there's a leaning process that the city is going to do, that would be separate and apart from this. [1:13:52, 1:13:52]: Yes. [1:13:54, 1:14:05]: Correct. All right. Um Mr Thomas, go ahead, please. Mr Washington, I I I think you're correct, but Mrs. Holiday, I I I for me, if you would [1:14:05, 1:14:06]: Um [1:14:07, 1:14:08]: Speak to [1:14:09, 1:14:13]: the administrative cost a and I think this is what [1:14:14, 1:14:20]: The two hundred dollars is an administrative fee. Yeah. I I think maybe if you speak to [1:14:20, 1:14:21]: The каст [1:14:22, 1:14:23]: And what is covered [1:14:24, 1:14:26]: And and and the various tasks. [1:14:27, 1:14:38]: That the city of Stockbridge, what is that staff? And I notice here um processing the application. So I think it may be clear if if we all understood [1:14:39, 1:14:39]: Um [1:14:40, 1:14:41]: The depth. [1:14:41, 1:14:43]: That the city [1:14:43, 1:14:45]: has to go through [1:14:45, 1:14:47]: to regulate [1:14:47, 1:14:50]: This and I think this is where we're [1:14:50, 1:14:53]: confusing the find [1:14:53, 1:14:57]: to the administrative fee so and the fee covers [1:14:58, 1:15:18]: And if you speak to what the fee covers, and I think that may help us quite a bit. So the administrative fee, and Deshes may have to speak to this as well, because we made the request to the Public Works Department. We were receiving well, especially around holidays and and different times of the year where we had the grass grown. [1:15:18, 1:15:38]: More frequently. There was trash there. The actual headstones are being cleaned. We're having to purchase those chemicals, and we are visiting these cemeteries more often. Again, my staff goes out there three times a week, sometimes more, depending on what's going on. If it's leading up to a holiday, it's because we're [1:15:38, 1:15:58]: We are trying to keep them in pristine condition so that when people go to visit their deceased loved ones, we want our cemeteries to be in good shape. We added benches, we added trash receptacles, and we just take pride in making sure that we're going to be able to [1:15:58, 1:16:18]: Sure that when you go out there that it looks nice and it is clean and it is kept up and it is mowed. And and when people go to inter, we uh ask that public works be on site. We ask them to ride through there several times during the day, uh number of times during the week, so that we don't have vagrants coming. [1:16:18, 1:16:22]: into the cemetery. So there's more activity from the staff [1:16:22, 1:16:25]: going out there more frequently than we did in the past. [1:16:26, 1:16:46]: And and Mayor Four may addly and and I think for me, when we talk about increasing the administrative fee, that that's what I know, that's what I want to hear. Not confusing it with the fine, but what the what does the fee cover? And I do have a personal experience with with Berk Street because uh the Cochrane family. [1:16:45, 1:16:47]: Yeah. [1:16:47, 1:16:51]: a barrier there and I received a number of calls [1:16:51, 1:16:53]: I'm I'm sorry that the Mays family [1:16:53, 1:16:56]: And I received a number of calls from from the Mays family. [1:16:57, 1:16:59]: Because their family members are there. [1:16:59, 1:17:10]: And they had some issues, and I uh referred them to you, and I think you sort of corrected that. But the comments that I get from the Mays family and some other families. [1:17:10, 1:17:12]: They come in the city and [1:17:12, 1:17:14]: For the way they upkeep. [1:17:14, 1:17:22]: uh those those cemeteries. And I understand uh maybe the increase in fee, but that's what I want to hear because I think [1:17:24, 1:17:35]: This is the conversation I think and and this is what you're asking for, is about the administrative fee and what does those fees go toward? And I think this is what we need to emphasize. [1:17:36, 1:17:39]: All right, thank you, sir. Uh Mr. Alzheimer's away, please. [1:17:39, 1:17:58]: Yeah, so I I just want to make sure I'm not a funeral expert by any means at all. So this administrative fee is just for administrative. There's no charge to be buried at the cemetery? They've already purchased the plots. The per the plots have already been purchased. So t what's so that charge is what? [1:17:59, 1:18:11]: They c they p plots were purchased for twenty five dollars. This goes back to the sixties or even before. So all the plots have been purchased all the We have no you cannot purchase a plot in a city cemetery. Oh wow. [1:18:11, 1:18:12]: They are all purchased. [1:18:13, 1:18:16]: Wow. Oh they are all purchased. They've been purchased. [1:18:17, 1:18:37]: By who everyone is assigned. I can get I can send you the list. But I mean, so folks just well did somebody just decide, okay, well, I'm gonna buy all of them and then sell all the time. No, they didn't sell no they didn't. A number of families have purchased plots in our cemeteries. They are purchased, they are digitized. We had a competition. [1:18:37, 1:18:41]: We've had all that done. [1:18:41, 1:18:43]: They are all sold. [1:18:44, 1:18:54]: And again, they were sold decades ago. So somebody done bought out what you're saying is somebody done bought out one person selling them. There are numerous families. [1:18:54, 1:19:06]: That were here in the Stockbridge area that purchased those plots. Why did the city sell them to them? I wasn't sir, I was not here. I cannot answer that question. I know, but I'm saying at that point it seemed like somebody ran a game. [1:19:07, 1:19:25]: It's been bought all over. Well people buy family plots all the time. That's not unusual. People buy family plots. Okay, okay, I'm done. Getting a little out of hand in this aspect. So so you But again, we're not di the the the the penalty. [1:19:25, 1:19:45]: We it's already in place for the city for anyone who violates one of our ordinances. Right. That's already in place. What we I need to do is have an ordinance though that I need to send to Municode so that they know that this administration fee is no longer one hundred dollars, it is two hundred dollars. Okay, got it. All right. And that was approved. [1:19:45, 1:19:55]: by the council in the fiscal twenty twenty three budget. Okay. Got it. Sandby, m squeezer. [1:19:55, 1:20:05]: Uh an and and this is my last comment on this and this is to answer uh Mr. Alexander. And I've been to the Burke Street uh cemetery quite a bit. [1:20:05, 1:20:07]: And when you go there [1:20:07, 1:20:08]: Юсі [1:20:08, 1:20:11]: The noted family's [1:20:11, 1:20:13]: Of the histry. [1:20:13, 1:20:33]: Of Stockbridge, the Wars, the Mays, the Cochranes, etc. etc. So these families already own these plots. And when someone passed in their families, they already own the plot. But again, I think the issue here is the upkeep of these. [1:20:33, 1:20:53]: Cemeteries, and this is what the administrative fee is. I think we're sort of losing sight of what the administrative fee covers. And it's not, it's a task on the city and the staff and the clerk's office and the public work staff to cut the grass, to weed, to spray. [1:20:53, 1:21:01]: I'm just saying expensive. We we're losing sight of what this really is. [1:21:02, 1:21:04]: Thank you, Mayor. No, you're welcome, sir. All right. [1:21:04, 1:21:17]: Okay, so we had plenty of discussion on this matter. All right. So I need a motion to go ahead and and force accept this or or disapprove this. So moved. Okay. Uh Mayor Pro Tem made a motion. Is there a second to motion? [1:21:18, 1:21:21]: A second. Ms. Gantt secondette. All in favor, please indicate. [1:21:23, 1:21:27]: Yeah okay. It's a unanimous decision. We've got we've got four. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you. [1:21:29, 1:21:49]: All right, uh my particular comments. Uh ladies and gentlemen, of course, as you well know, COVID nineteen is still exists, it's still with us. There's plenty of ways for you to get tested and or uh get um boosted in this aspect. So please beware and uh continue to uh be try to be healthy as much as you can. I understand it's late February. [1:21:49, 1:22:09]: Uh but uh still we're still in the back ends of the flu season. So if you haven't had flu shots, it's probably never too late to do that as well. Uh wanna acknowledge the fact that uh uh thanks to uh Calcman Thomas we had a successful African American celebration, a twelfth annual acan American celebration with the city of Stockbridge and this [1:22:09, 1:22:29]: year was recognizing the divine nine, the predominant African American fraternities and sawardees that are in the country. And it was in a sense to acknowledg those particular fraternities and sawardies community service efforts in this aspect and all the accomplishments here in the inner and around the area. So bear with me for a minute here please. [1:22:29, 1:22:49]: Initial divide nine, the nine different fraternity sororities organized and established uh in college universities uh around the country. First is Alpha Alpha Fraternity Incorporated, which established December uh fourth, uh, nineteen oh six at Cornell University, Ithaca, New York. The local chapter is Rose Sigma Lambda chapter, which is established on July twenty first. [1:22:49, 1:23:09]: 2008, and they're actually having a 15-year anniversary this July. I just so happens myself along with our attorney, Quentin Washington, the members of this particular fraternity. You got Alpha Kappa, Alpha Sowarty Incorporated, established January 15th, 1908, Howard University in Washington, D.C. Local chapter Psi Alpha Omega, and they were established on [1:23:09, 1:23:11]: December tenth, two thousand five. [1:23:11, 1:23:14]: Ms. Gent is a member and S awarding in in this aspect as well. [1:23:15, 1:23:19]: Got Kappa Alpha sign fraternity established January fifth, nineteen eleven. [1:23:19, 1:23:21]: Indiana University in Bloomington. [1:23:21, 1:23:22]: Uh Indiana. [1:23:22, 1:23:42]: And the local chapter, Stockbridge Jonesboro Alumni Chapter, established April 12, 2003. And I don't know if we have any council members or staff that are members of this fraternity. Omega Psi 5 Fraternity Incorporated established November 17, 1911, at Howard University in Washington, D.C. And the Zeta Mu Nu chapter was established on September 22th. [1:23:42, 1:24:02]: 26, 2014. And on the staff, we have Mr. Gardner as well as Destin Aaron, both members of Omega Sci-Fi. Delta Sigma Theta Sawarty Incorporated established January 13th, 1913 at Howard University in Washington, D.C. You got the Henry County Alumni Chapter established December 4th. [1:24:02, 1:24:22]: in 2004 and I don't recall oh yes we do we've got uh you got Shana Thornton and uh kira uh Kira Bragg so members of Delta Sigma Theta uh five beta sigma fraternity incorporated established uh December uh excuse me January ninth uh twenty fourteen Howard University in Washington DC Sigma [1:24:22, 1:24:42]: Ada Sigma alumni chapter established on uh May 6th of 2019. I don't recall we have any betas uh in the for in in uh particular structure here. You got Zeta Phi, Betas Award Incorporated established January 16th of 1920 at Howard University in Washington DC. Sigma Omega Zeta chapter established uh [1:24:42, 1:24:48]: the uh march fourteenth of two thousand three and I don't recall having these adidas on the staff here at all. [1:24:49, 1:25:09]: You got Sigma Gamma Rose Award Incorporated established November 12th, 1922, at Butler University in Indianapolis, Indiana. You got the Lambna Sigma Sigma Alumni Chapter, which is established June 9th of 2012. And once again, I don't believe there are any sigmas on our staff here as well. And the last of Divine Nine would be Iota Phi Theta. [1:25:09, 1:25:29]: Fraternity Incorporated established September nineteenth, nineteen sixty three, at Morgan State University in Baltimore, Maryland. And I believe there are two different chapters here in a local uh um Atlanta metro area. Just wanna acknowledge all those individual fraternity sororities and uh and as we can continue, Divine Knight continues to do strong and great things to [1:25:28, 1:25:30]: Or the particular communities that they serve. [1:25:31, 1:25:34]: I want to mention to everybody that um [1:25:34, 1:25:54]: If you you realize, you remember that the ARC acknowledged the city of Stockbridge uh back in late November at the regional conference at downtown and and gave us an award and recogn special recognition for our amphitheater in this aspect and the fact that uh the fact that we've done for the livable service type of uh [1:25:54, 1:25:57]: Ливос Ливабо Цент ініціатив. [1:25:57, 1:26:14]: And so it just so happens that on March eighth, the South Metro Development Outlook Conference is also going to identify and acknowledge the city of Stockbridge for economic driver, which is our Stockbridge amphitheater called now the Bridge, nicknamed the Bridge. So we'll be getting another award here shortly. [1:26:15, 1:26:35]: And uh we're very proud of that. We look forward to uh that award, look forward to outstanding concert season this year as well, which actually starts on April fourteenth with the Isaac Brothers in uh in that group after seven. So I'll always go to stopbridge uh np.com and and get the latest information on what's happening with our amphitheater, the bridge this year. [1:26:34, 1:26:54]: On that note, um, I'll move on to other announcements. Uh, council meetings will be held in the city council chambers. Meeting date and location and times are subject to change. Please visit the city's website at www.city of starbridge.com for meeting invitation link or the Facebook page or contact City Hall offices at 770-389. [1:26:54, 1:27:14]: The Main Street Advisory Board meeting is second Friday of each month at 9 a.m. City Hall Levi Meeting Room, which will be March 10th. The City Council meeting is second Monday of each month, 6 p.m. City Hall Council Chamber, March 13th. U Council meeting is 6:30 p.m. second Monday of each month. [1:27:14, 1:27:18]: Levi uh meeting room, City Hall on March thirteenth. [1:27:20, 1:27:40]: Citywide Development Authority meeting, second Tuesday of each month, 6 p.m. City uh City Hall, Levi Meeting Room, March 14th. City Council retreat, which we were all participating in, March 20th and March 22nd, 2023. The Downtown Development Authority meeting, 6 p.m. by way of Zoom, Thursday, Tuesday, third Tuesday of each month. [1:27:39, 1:27:59]: On March 21st is next meeting. Youth Council Advisory Committee meeting at 6 30 p.m. third uh Tuesday of each month in the Levi Meeting Room, City Hall, March 21st. The Planning Commission meeting is 6:30 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers fourth Thursday of each month, which is March 23rd. And the City Council set work session is typical last Tuesday of each month. [1:27:59, 1:28:19]: Month at 6 p.m., but it will be canceled for the month of March. We will not have a city council work session. Okay, as scheduled normally we're scheduled for the 28th of March, but it will be canceled. Upcoming events. Let's save the date. This is coming Saturday. Join Councilman Alexander for the annual Women's History Month celebration, Sunday, March. [1:28:19, 1:28:28]: me um Sunday says Sunday March I thought I thought it was it is Sunday March 5th I'm sorry Sunday March 5th at Merrill Man's Conference Center 3 to 5 p.m it says here [1:28:29, 1:28:31]: Councilman John Blount will on Wednesday, March twenty second. [1:28:32, 1:28:35]: You can go to Murray Manus Conference Center for Bingo. [1:28:35, 1:28:55]: From 10 a.m. to 12 noon. Please contact Raws and Rawls at 678-833-3348 for more information. And we c have a continuous salute to veterans. Please forward pictures of veterans, including name, branch, rank, and years of service to Mayor Pro Councilman Thomas. Presents a special tribute to our local veterans. Pictures should be submitted. [1:28:55, 1:29:15]: To Ros and Rawls by way of email, R. Rawls at city of Stockbridge-G A dot Gov. And of course, thank you for your service. And it's time, Council. I don't have listeners, I don't have any idea, any thoughts whether or not we have a second session for this evening. I believe we have no issues. None. Okay, so yes, yes, sir. Mr. Once you finish. [1:29:15, 1:29:16]: I have a comment. [1:29:17, 1:29:37]: All right, I was just gonna well go ahead, sir, because I was gonna I was gonna if we don't have a second session, then we I was gonna end the meeting. Go ahead, sir. Yes, I wanted to make this comment before you've got to end the meeting. Go ahead, sir, please. Okay. I w I wanted to take this opportunity to thank the council for their support and supporting the 12th annual African American Heritage. [1:29:37, 1:29:57]: Heritage Celebration. I want to thank the Murray Manus staff. I want to thank the Youth Council. But very, very importantly, I want to thank Mrs. Rawls, the executive to the Mayor and Council, and assisting me with making [1:29:57, 1:30:03]: making this a true success, um there's no way that I would have been able to um [1:30:03, 1:30:23]: uh make this a success without her assistance. And uh she and I have talked, but I just want to publicly acknowledge the fact that uh it was a great job, a great job. We was able to honor, well we were able to host this committee uh and this celebration to over two hundred [1:30:23, 1:30:25]: [5425.3, 5445.3]: Attendees and uh it went well. We started on time, we ended on time. Uh everybody had a great, great time, and we received nothing but great accomplishments uh for that. And I just want to thank all of the council members for attending, but always uh for your support. Thank you so much. Thank you, Ms. Ross. [1:30:45, 1:30:59]: Thank you again. No problem. Thank you to Rosalind as well. There she is, way over on the other side. Thank you, Rosalind. All right. On that note, council I need a uh motion to end our our council meeting this evening. So move. Ms. Lance so moves. Who's second? [1:30:59, 1:31:02]: Uh Mr Blount second, all in favor please indicate. [1:31:02, 1:31:05]: Thank goodness. God bless you all. We are now adjourned.

--- title: Downtown Development Authority date: 2023-02-21 source: 2023-02-21_Downtown_Development_Authority.wav --- [0:00:02, 0:00:12]: Uh good evening. This is the uh February regular meeting for the uh Downtown Development Authority for the City of Stockbridge. Um we'll go ahead and get started with the roll call. [0:00:15, 0:00:18]: Okay, uh Councilman Alexander. [0:00:21, 0:00:22]: Uh Roger Custon. [0:00:22, 0:00:23]: Present. [0:00:24, 0:00:25]: Brian Merritt. [0:00:25, 0:00:26]: Present. [0:00:26, 0:00:28]: Barber Richardson. [0:00:30, 0:00:31]: Next will Sears [0:00:34, 0:00:36]: Bob Swigert is here and [0:00:36, 0:00:38]: Uh, do you go by Robert or Bob Anderson? [0:00:39, 0:00:41]: Uh good by Bob. [0:00:41, 0:00:43]: Okay, well that's why Bob Anderson. [0:00:43, 0:00:45]: You see her, obviously. Welcome aboard. [0:00:45, 0:00:46]: Well, thank you. [0:00:48, 0:00:49]: Um [0:00:50, 0:00:51]: Did I leave anybody out? No. [0:00:52, 0:01:08]: I don't think so, but thank you. And also for the record, we also have joining us uh Vanessa Holliday, City Clerk, and uh Kira uh Harris Braggs. Um and with um four members present, we do have a quorum. [0:01:08, 0:01:10]: And I see that Houseman Alexander's just joined. [0:01:13, 0:01:15]: Councilman, thank you for joining. [0:01:15, 0:01:16]: We just did roll call. [0:01:17, 0:01:18]: Mm-hmm. [0:01:19, 0:01:39]: And uh with that, we'll start off with um approving today's agenda. We have um a rather full agenda this evening, I will say, um, but we also would like to uh request that we um amend the agenda to include uh guest speaker uh Reggie Sylvain. He is uh [0:01:39, 0:01:59]: He's actually a local businessman and has purchased several properties in the downtown district. And I'd like to ask the board's consideration for allowing him to speak to us so we can have kind of a Q<unk>A and hear of his plans. I'm proposing that we do that. [0:01:58, 0:02:12]: uh following the uh guest speaker ariel shaw who is the uh citywide uh development authority so that would be after the um chairman's comments so that would be a new item uh four [0:02:13, 0:02:13]: Um [0:02:14, 0:02:34]: Other than that, I would like to also amend the or or or clarify on the agenda uh at the end of the meeting to have a uh closed session to discuss real estate. It's regarding the uh TSW master plan, which includes some um real estate considerations for the DDA to [0:02:34, 0:02:43]: Uh review. We have a draft version of the plan that I've shared with the DEA, and I'd like to use that time to review the details of that. [0:02:43, 0:02:56]: Um so just to uh summarize, I'd like to make a motion to amend the agenda to add guest speaker Reggie Sylvain, and secondly to enter closed session for um [0:02:56, 0:02:58]: Real estate matters. [0:02:58, 0:02:59]: Second. [0:03:00, 0:03:02]: Thank you, Councilman. Any discussion? [0:03:05, 0:03:07]: All right. All those in favor, please raise your hand. [0:03:09, 0:03:25]: All right, thank you. That's emailist. We'll move on to the next item, which is to approve the uh November 15th and January 10th meeting minutes. Um those have been sent out via email. So I'll go ahead and make a motion to approve uh both of those meeting minutes. [0:03:26, 0:03:27]: Okay. [0:03:29, 0:03:31]: Thank you, Mr. Swiger. Any discussion? [0:03:34, 0:03:54]: All right, all those in favor, raise your hand to approve the minutes. And so um Mr. Mr. Anderson, you you may want to um I don't know that I've shared them with you, um, so you may want to abstain from this particular vote, um, just because you haven't had the chance to see the minutes and and you're you may have seen the meeting. [0:03:53, 0:04:02]: meeting. Um, so because it was uh both were public sessions. So um I just wanted to, you know, point that out to make sure you're you're clear on on your vote. [0:04:03, 0:04:04]: Okay, don't you? [0:04:05, 0:04:07]: Yeah, I I read the minutes on online there, but [0:04:08, 0:04:26]: Very good. I assume that's what you all did. We yeah, we we we brought we published the uh we published but the meetings online. It's all public information. So uh we'll go ahead and um um uh accept your vote in favor of of the of the minutes. So thank you. Uh so that that motion passes as well. [0:04:27, 0:04:30]: And Roger, I note that uh Barber Richardson has now joined us as well. [0:04:31, 0:04:33]: Thank you and welcome Barber. Nice to see ya. [0:04:35, 0:04:36]: Hello everyone. [0:04:37, 0:04:39]: All right. Um [0:04:41, 0:04:51]: See, I'm keeping an eye on the attendees and uh Vanessa, if you will also have uh if you're able to see the attendees, keep a watch for our guest speakers. [0:04:55, 0:04:57]: I'm sorry, Chuck, I didn't hear that. [0:04:58, 0:05:01]: We'll do. I certainly will. Thank you. [0:05:01, 0:05:21]: All right, so we'll start off with uh the uh uh just opening remarks. Um very pleased to join uh to to uh welcome Mr. Robert Anderson to the uh DDA. Uh he was just sworn in last week uh by the city council. So thank you to the council for uh filling that position. And uh Mr. Anderson. [0:05:21, 0:05:27]: If I'll I'll turn it over to you for a moment, just tell us a little bit about your background and what made you interested in joining the D D A. [0:05:28, 0:05:40]: Uh I moved to the into the area back in nineteen sixty eight and uh was uh extremely evolved during the seventies and early eighties with the local athletic programs and [0:05:41, 0:05:48]: working with the county and whatnot to develop the local parks, Cocktonfield and uh Maysfield and [0:05:51, 0:05:53]: Then after that I took a bit of a break and now that um [0:05:55, 0:06:00]: back in the city limits. Uh I had lived right there on highway forty two and then we moved out of it. [0:06:00, 0:06:04]: to uh Adrian Driving while we're the states right on the edge of the [0:06:09, 0:06:14]: city limits. So once we decide might as well get back involved. [0:06:16, 0:06:20]: Well, we're glad you did and and again welcome to welcome to the board. [0:06:21, 0:06:22]: Um thank you. [0:06:23, 0:06:43]: All right. Um so uh I do want to mention that we've got a lot to cover tonight. So um I'd like to ask that uh you know during our regular reports out that we could uh if we could limit that to five minutes or less, that'll help us get through the agenda so that this doesn't become, you know, as a longer meeting than we than it than it needs to be. [0:06:43, 0:06:51]: Next on the agenda was going to be for our guest speakers. I don't see that they have joined yet. [0:06:54, 0:06:55]: I'm sorry. [0:06:58, 0:07:05]: I think that's just feedback. Okay, great. And uh so I'll um we'll go ahead and um [0:07:05, 0:07:18]: Move past that into our uh officers and city staff reports. And then once the guest speakers join, if we could uh, you know, between each of those staff reports, then we'll we'll bring those speakers in. [0:07:19, 0:07:21]: All right, if that's okay with everyone. [0:07:22, 0:07:28]: All right, so that would bring us to the uh treasurer update. So Barber, did you want to uh share with group? [0:07:35, 0:07:41]: Yeah, sure. Um basically short and sweet. We had very few expenses in the [0:07:43, 0:07:46]: Month of January, sorry, my computer. Can I share? I don't know. [0:07:46, 0:07:48]: Oh yeah, I can. Okay. [0:07:49, 0:08:05]: All right, so for the month of January, the only expenses we had were our normal recurring forty dollar Zoom as well as two hundred dollars for the Georgia Downtown Association membership that was reimbursed to me that I prepaid uh before we paid. [0:08:05, 0:08:13]: Um as a board. So total expenses for the month$240. No income at this moment. [0:08:13, 0:08:14]: Our [0:08:14, 0:08:29]: Cash position as of January thirty first, the facade grant$114,669 and sixty-five cents. Our operating account forty six thousand four hundred sixty dollars and fifty-eight cents. [0:08:31, 0:08:40]: Um these are the expenses I just spoke about on the panel. We have a few upcoming expenses that we'll see on February's report that I know of to date. [0:08:41, 0:08:58]: Again, monthly recurring for Zoom, as well as a DDA training and travel reimbursement for Councilman Alexander in April. And then the Georgia Tech Market Study. So these checks should clear by the time we have the December report. I'm sorry, the February report. [0:08:58, 0:09:05]: Um total expected expenses for the month of February is six thousand five dollars and seventy cents. [0:09:06, 0:09:07]: Any questions? [0:09:10, 0:09:13]: Okay. Chair Custin, one moment. Chair Custin. [0:09:13, 0:09:19]: Yes, go ahead. On the on the reimbursements to the city, those invoices that were sent over. [0:09:20, 0:09:26]: uh hospitality, different things, training. Where are we with that with reimbursing the city? [0:09:28, 0:09:29]: Barber, do you want to speak to that? [0:09:30, 0:09:32]: Oh, did I overlook some invoices? [0:09:33, 0:09:33]: Let me see. [0:09:34, 0:09:35]: Vanessa, did you send those to me? [0:09:36, 0:09:39]: Yeah, I did. I emailed them. I can resend them. [0:09:40, 0:09:44]: Okay, let me see. I need to go back through my email. [0:09:45, 0:09:46]: Uh [0:09:54, 0:09:57]: Okay, I think I found it, right? Let's see. [0:09:59, 0:10:06]: I see a hospitality invoice for okay, I found them. Okay, I'll update this and and include that and get the city reimbursed. [0:10:07, 0:10:12]: Um, for these expenses. I don't know how I missed these. All right, thank you. [0:10:12, 0:10:12]: Okay. [0:10:13, 0:10:15]: Thank you. [0:10:17, 0:10:19]: Quite a quite a few invoices. [0:10:20, 0:10:20]: Well. [0:10:20, 0:10:21]: Okay. [0:10:21, 0:10:23]: Let me start sharing. [0:10:23, 0:10:24]: But that's all I have. [0:10:25, 0:10:27]: Yes. [0:10:27, 0:10:32]: Well, and Barber, there's one more item I do want to make you aware of. Um [0:10:33, 0:10:53]: As mentioned in this meeting, the DDA had commissioned the uh master plan with TSW. That had been um sort of idle and suspended for a number of years. Um, but it was a partial, you know, it was partially completed. Um, we had uh you might recall we had paid up to a certain point uh a couple of years ago. [0:10:53, 0:11:03]: But then now we are looking at completing that plan. And so we can expect the remaining portion of that expense. [0:11:04, 0:11:06]: In probably in the next uh month or so. [0:11:07, 0:11:14]: Um I I believe the absolute total was 29,000, but the remaining portion I'll need to calculate and I can send that over to you. [0:11:15, 0:11:28]: Um we've actually gotten a couple of invoices from TSW already, but I needed uh I I was following up just to see where we were with the plan and what the next steps were. And we can go into that when we talk about the master plan, but I I just want to let you know there's an [0:11:29, 0:11:32]: A r a remaining portion of that that will be a liability. [0:11:33, 0:11:33]: Okay. [0:11:38, 0:11:41]: Any other questions for uh tre for the treasurer's report? [0:11:44, 0:11:47]: All right. Um [0:11:48, 0:11:55]: All right, then we will move on to uh secretary updates. Bob, do you um Bob Schweiger, do you have anything for the group? [0:11:55, 0:11:56]: Uh I do not. [0:11:57, 0:11:58]: All right. Then uh [0:11:59, 0:12:00]: Uh [0:12:01, 0:12:07]: Barber, I'll check with you first on the uh Main Street Advisory Board updates and then we can turn it over to Gira if you don't have anything. [0:12:07, 0:12:09]: Please, Kira, I missed the last meeting. [0:12:09, 0:12:10]: All right. [0:12:11, 0:12:12]: Mm-hmm. [0:12:13, 0:12:15]: And Kira, you're you're selling me. [0:12:16, 0:12:17]: But we see you. [0:12:21, 0:12:25]: Little by little we're making it happen here. Okay. There you go. [0:12:25, 0:12:38]: Um the Main Street program has um two new board members, um, and we have also elected new officers. Our new board members are Camille Reynoso Mason. [0:12:38, 0:12:42]: Who will be occupying a citizen position? [0:12:42, 0:12:45]: And then um Andrea Burnett. [0:12:45, 0:12:53]: Is a downtown business owner. She's um the co-owner of um powerhouse pest control. She will be um [0:12:53, 0:13:07]: occupying the downtown one of the downtown business owner positions. Our new chair is Mr. Willie Hopkins. Our vice chair is Mr. Shamari Firch. And then our new secretary is Prayer Finley. [0:13:10, 0:13:30]: We are working on bringing back our entrepreneur training program. You might remember it as being called the ETP program. This was a 12-session certificate program for entrepreneurs and new business owners. It was set up for people. [0:13:30, 0:13:42]: People who were interested in getting additional technical assistance with regard to educational classes and workshops for new businesses and opening a new business. We're going to be bringing that. [0:13:42, 0:13:46]: particular segment back, it has been um revised and revamped. [0:13:47, 0:14:00]: Um, it has gone from 12 sessions to eight sessions. They've condensed the program and it is still a certification program. So we're um happy about that. And that is a partnership with Operation Hope and Truest Bank. [0:14:01, 0:14:21]: Um, the last time we hosted this particular session, um, we had 30 participants and 28 people completed the program. So it was very successful, and we're hoping that it will be just as successful this time around. Uh, we are still solidifying the dates with the um consultants that work with us, and I'll have [0:14:21, 0:14:23]: have some um more information for that. [0:14:24, 0:14:37]: um particular class um session at our next meeting. We have several board members that will be attending the upcoming Essentials and Downtown Economic Development class. [0:14:37, 0:14:43]: on March the fifteenth, that's gonna be in LaGrange, Georgia. So we're looking forward to them. [0:14:43, 0:14:46]: attending that and I also wanted to let you all know that [0:14:46, 0:14:55]: Main Street 101 has been revised and is now available on the Georgia Downtown website. It is online. There is a [0:14:55, 0:15:04]: fee to take this particular course, but I do um recommend that all new DDA members um [0:15:04, 0:15:08]: try to commit to taking this particular class because it [0:15:08, 0:15:10]: gives you a wealth of information about [0:15:11, 0:15:15]: The Main Street program, the Main Street downtown Development Concepts. [0:15:15, 0:15:16]: And um [0:15:17, 0:15:37]: Also talks a little bit about DDA as well. So it kind of gives you an overview of all of the downtown advocacy programs that are in place. So I would recommend it. And you take it at your own pace. So it's a way for you to get acclimated to downtown development and downtown programming. [0:15:37, 0:15:39]: your leisure. So I would um [0:15:39, 0:15:41]: encourage you all to look at that. [0:15:42, 0:15:55]: Uh we have met with the owners of um two of our future downtown businesses and welcomed them to the downtown district, Miss Um Lori Isidore with Ruby's Florist, and then also um [0:15:55, 0:16:01]: Jeff Carr with carbecues. If you all are familiar with the uh it used to be a little Chinese restaurant. [0:16:01, 0:16:16]: And um fun fact, it actually used to be the old Stockbridge jail. So um that is an interesting little building in our downtown and they are planning to um have those have the jail cell that's still in there open. [0:16:17, 0:16:23]: Um, so I'm thinking that that's gonna be um a nice little tourism attraction that we'll have in the downtown area. [0:16:24, 0:16:28]: So I'm really excited about that. And I did mention the um [0:16:29, 0:16:37]: um facade grant to both of those business owners. And I know um definitely Mr. Carr is interested in [0:16:38, 0:16:41]: Um possibly applying for that. He has some. [0:16:41, 0:16:45]: work to be done with regard to his windows and the door on his um building. [0:16:45, 0:16:49]: So he told me that he would definitely want to circle back. [0:16:49, 0:16:52]: Um, to get more information about that. [0:16:53, 0:17:06]: Um, I'll be convening the downtown beautification committee next month. Um, those of you who serve on that committee will be receiving an email from me. We uh our budget has been um cut pretty [0:17:06, 0:17:15]: drastically this year. So we've got to um prioritize some of our projects that we put on our list to see where we're going to be able to um [0:17:16, 0:17:17]: Bring those particular um [0:17:18, 0:17:23]: proposed item proposed projects online. Um I know one thing is we need to [0:17:23, 0:17:30]: Replace our banners in the downtown district. They are starting to become faded. I'd like to get those replaced. [0:17:30, 0:17:32]: Um, we've also um [0:17:32, 0:17:37]: wanted to do some planters and things like that in the downtown that were proposed by the committee. [0:17:38, 0:17:43]: So um we'll be talking about that and have um more to report to you all. [0:17:43, 0:17:45]: Um at our next meeting. [0:17:45, 0:17:52]: And um that's all I'm going to report right now. I know you all need to move on. So um I'll have more at our next meeting. [0:17:55, 0:17:57]: Thank you, Kira. Any questions for Kira? [0:17:57, 0:17:58]: Yes. [0:17:59, 0:18:04]: No, I I do understand that uh we we we are finished with the [0:18:05, 0:18:06]: Uh welcome center. [0:18:06, 0:18:08]: Could you give us an update on that? [0:18:08, 0:18:11]: Uh that'll be shared space that the DDA will share. [0:18:12, 0:18:15]: So talk about that and uh understand you've moved in. [0:18:16, 0:18:25]: Yes, we have moved in. Um we were waiting, we were using borrowed um furniture for a while, but um our furniture has been delivered. [0:18:25, 0:18:28]: And uh we're still unpacking, but [0:18:28, 0:18:40]: We have moved into the space and have hosted um several meetings there and we're looking forward to um in the very near future um trying to host a um [0:18:40, 0:18:47]: I guess a a grand opening um for the community to come and see what we have there and uh [0:18:47, 0:18:51]: see the conference room and um just get an idea of [0:18:52, 0:18:56]: We are down on the downtown strip now, so we're really excited about that. [0:18:57, 0:19:00]: Okay, excellent. Excellent. That would be great. [0:19:00, 0:19:16]: I know we had some discussion about the name and all of that. So certainly we should be coming to some resolution uh on that pretty soon. But um that's exciting to see. Uh this is uh come to a close and uh we uh have another building to be very proud of in downtown. [0:19:17, 0:19:18]: Yes, definitely. [0:19:21, 0:19:22]: Any other questions for Kira? [0:19:26, 0:19:45]: Uh regarding the new space, is the conference room equipped with um for a hybrid type of meeting? In other words, does it have camera and audio equipment? It does not have a camera, but we do have um a smart TV. So we would be able to do presentations um on that particular monitor in that. [0:19:45, 0:19:46]: When [0:19:46, 0:19:47]: Um [0:19:48, 0:19:53]: We do not have a camera set up in there. Um, that was not something that we um [0:19:54, 0:19:59]: put in our original uh wish list, but it is something that we might consider in the near future. [0:20:00, 0:20:01]: All right, thank you. [0:20:01, 0:20:12]: Um, I also have an um a note from Kim. If you um when you get to the point where you would like for him to report, he did leave me a a bit of a report for you all. [0:20:13, 0:20:20]: That would be uh the next item on the agenda. So um go ahead, please. Okay. [0:20:20, 0:20:21]: Um [0:20:22, 0:20:42]: Kim left me the note that the Economic Development Department will be releasing an RFP to bring on a qualified project team to conduct a citywide economic development strategic strategic plan, which will also include marketing strategies. More updates will be provided as the process. [0:20:42, 0:20:55]: unfolds. He also asked me to mention the connectivity study. They are going to be holding one of their first um meetings. I think that's on February the 28th. [0:20:55, 0:21:01]: And um this is gonna be one of their um initial um committee meetings. [0:21:02, 0:21:03]: And um [0:21:04, 0:21:07]: That's all that I have with regard to his report. [0:21:10, 0:21:12]: Certainly, I'll probably ask a question. [0:21:12, 0:21:13]: Go ahead, councilman. [0:21:14, 0:21:33]: Certainly, uh Cura. So you had assumed the role of the direct staff support uh in absence of that position being filled. Have you now transitioned that back over to uh Mr. Alons to be the professional that would be in charge of supporting the DDA or y'all still working on that? [0:21:34, 0:21:39]: Um no, he would be you um the D DA's um support and liaison. [0:21:40, 0:21:46]: Okay, so he's he's up to speed on what's going on and that he will be able to take a step in at this point. [0:21:46, 0:21:51]: I know you were in that role. So that's our it's been officially transitioned back at this point. [0:21:51, 0:21:52]: Yes. [0:21:53, 0:21:54]: Okay. All right. Thank you. [0:21:55, 0:21:55]: Mm-hmm. [0:21:56, 0:22:16]: And and I'll add to that point that uh we I've actually met with Mr. Alan several times, uh, one-on-one meetings to brief him on the DDA activities. And then we also had a standing uh meeting which included uh Kira and Lisa and the economic development director to follow. [0:22:16, 0:22:28]: up on the work list items that came from the strategic planning session in June of 2021. So and we've we've we've reestablished that cadence. [0:22:28, 0:22:43]: Also, I would like to so you mentioned camera equipment for the room. It's our shared space. So certainly if you wanted to add that and you wanted to add a camera, certainly we could look at entertaining that in our budget uh if it wasn't in the original budget, correct? [0:22:45, 0:22:46]: All right. Thank you. [0:22:48, 0:22:53]: All right, any other items or questions for the uh city staff updates? [0:22:54, 0:22:59]: All right, that moves us to the city council of updates. Councilman Alexander. [0:22:59, 0:23:09]: Well, let me just tell you, I am so excited. You know, we've been jumping up and down to try to get economic development attention to the city as a whole. [0:23:09, 0:23:29]: And man, we've got it. Uh to you know, there's not just inside the downtown uh area, we have seen economic development uh surge throughout the city uh as a whole. It has really been amazing, you know, just outside the downtown area. I stopped at a new business a couple times, went back [0:23:29, 0:23:40]: It was so good. I stopped at Angie's Cafe, which is at 31 uh highway 138. It is the type of business that we've been looking for, a sit-down restaurant. [0:23:40, 0:23:45]: Let you enjoy. I had an omelet there. It was so good. I went back today for lunch. [0:23:46, 0:23:48]: Because it was just that impressive. [0:23:48, 0:23:51]: And they and one thing that I love [0:23:52, 0:23:53]: When I go into a business [0:23:54, 0:23:56]: The owners are there. [0:23:56, 0:24:16]: their own site, they're working the business, and they are committed to having a successful operation. So if you haven't checked them out, uh check please do and support quality uh in the community. In terms of overall economic development, as Kira mentioned, we have the new floors open, uh Ruby's at 100 [0:24:16, 0:24:25]: uh East Atlanta Road, they did a a because the city got involved and all of us turned around and helped promote them and we should do that as well. [0:24:25, 0:24:31]: They had a amazing Valentine's Day that exceeded their ex patient expectations. [0:24:31, 0:24:34]: In terms of their overall sales. They are delighted to be [0:24:35, 0:24:36]: Uh in that space. So [0:24:37, 0:24:38]: We appreciate them. [0:24:38, 0:24:44]: Uh as well, um we had a uh ribbon cutting for serene [0:24:44, 0:24:46]: uh organic. [0:24:46, 0:24:52]: uh spa salon and spa uh which is at one twenty three uh east atlanta road [0:24:52, 0:24:57]: Uh that business has been there uh since October. So we had a ribbon cutting for them. [0:24:58, 0:24:59]: Uh, they're committed to [0:24:59, 0:25:03]: Uh downtown they're very excited about being a part. [0:25:03, 0:25:09]: uh of the amphitheater and the whole surrounding area and the uh uptick in growth. [0:25:09, 0:25:14]: We also had a ribbon cutting for the Peach Cobbler factory. [0:25:14, 0:25:16]: Which is down um [0:25:16, 0:25:28]: at think it's two fifty East Atlanta Road uh in the Publix Plaza, a business that is uh a national chain. Uh this is the first national chain that we've actually had invest. [0:25:28, 0:25:30]: in the extended downtown area. [0:25:31, 0:25:33]: And they are doing and else they're doing [0:25:33, 0:25:36]: Really good business wise, as a matter of fact. [0:25:37, 0:25:45]: uh consumer base was uh over excited to see them opening. They had some delays, but now their business has really gone [0:25:48, 0:25:54]: And is doing extremely well. That's class. [0:25:57, 0:25:58]: Okay. [0:26:00, 0:26:01]: Is available [0:26:03, 0:26:03]: Yeah, it's [0:26:09, 0:26:29]: Make sure that we do everything that we can. And Mr. Sil Sylvan will tell you about a project he has going on. And I'll let him do that as in bringing a new restaurant to that location as well. So but available space in uh the extended downtown area, our downtown development authority area. [0:26:29, 0:26:42]: includes uh East Atlanta Road in the Publix. There's class A space, which is premium space that is available in the publix right now for occupancy. I have people ask all the time [0:26:42, 0:26:47]: Where's facing downtown Stockbridge? This is literally a half mile down the road. [0:26:47, 0:26:49]: Uh, from the amphitheater and downtowns. [0:26:50, 0:26:51]: In uh the main [0:26:51, 0:26:56]: Historic downtown area uh there uh for Stock Bridge as well. [0:26:56, 0:26:58]: Uh in addition to that we've had [0:26:59, 0:27:02]: Uh, several uh investors to inquire. [0:27:02, 0:27:03]: About um [0:27:03, 0:27:09]: uh bringing some development into the area. Uh as before we were having struggles with [0:27:10, 0:27:26]: uh br bringing attention to uh this particular area, but there are several interested parties in partnering with the city. We just have to be able to filter through and select the individuals uh who are worthy of or will bring the best product. [0:27:26, 0:27:30]: out of all of the above in particular multiple spaces. [0:27:30, 0:27:32]: uh that are available. [0:27:32, 0:27:41]: Uh downtown has done extremely well as far as we're concerned. Uh in downtown, the amphitheater concert series is being worked on. [0:27:41, 0:27:55]: by uh Harold Young. Harold Young now is a consultant with the city. Previously he worked uh for a a c the contractor. Now he works uh in partnership with the city as a consultant. [0:27:55, 0:27:57]: He's booking concerts right now. [0:27:57, 0:28:07]: And the lineup is absolutely going to be amazing. There's several concerts that are already been released already, including the Isley Brothers and After Seven to kick it off. [0:28:07, 0:28:08]: On April fourteenth. [0:28:09, 0:28:10]: Uh Monica and Tank. [0:28:10, 0:28:12]: On six three. [0:28:12, 0:28:29]: which is really um everybody's waiting on those tickets to go on sale and they should go on the sale uh this week uh moving through. Uh if you've been to downtown and you've seen uh the extensive work that is going on on the multi-use trails uh along East Atlanta Road. [0:28:30, 0:28:33]: Uh, those trails have gone in to extend now from [0:28:33, 0:28:36]: Uh North Henry Boulevard all the way down to Bryant Street. [0:28:37, 0:28:40]: Uh the crew is actually working on the um [0:28:41, 0:28:50]: South Lee Street trails, and they're actually working on a reconfiguration of North Lee Street. North and South Lee Street will [0:28:50, 0:28:56]: North Lee Street will actually be moved over about 500 feet so it will line up. [0:28:57, 0:29:01]: directly across from Southley Street, forming a new [0:29:01, 0:29:21]: Four-way intersection. That intersection right now is really disjointed, where you have uh North Lee Street over here and South Lee Street over here. They don't face each other. So their North Lee Street will be moved over so they form a four-way intersection. Uh there will be trails connecting that across the way. [0:29:21, 0:29:37]: Uh I spoke to the superintendent uh at the Henry County Chamber Banquet and she said that they're on schedule for the Henry County STEM School. Uh it's a forty five million dollar project that's coming uh for uh where the um [0:29:37, 0:29:52]: Oh, Patrick Henry, Stockbridge High School is. They concluded all of their field trips to different uh STEM schools all over the state. And they're trying to put together the best of the best of all of those projects that they just saw. [0:29:52, 0:30:12]: And uh Superintendent Davis indicated that what they were waiting on is for the Stranger Things series to finish uh their filming. And as soon as they finished their filming for the season, they would go into demolition and they would uh start the demolition portion uh hopefully before the end of the year uh in uh [0:30:12, 0:30:25]: starting that project with a projected opening date of the 2026-2027 uh school year for the Henry County STEM school. These are very exciting. [0:30:25, 0:30:28]: uh developments for us uh in downtown scene [0:30:28, 0:30:30]: Um you know, the things that are coming. [0:30:31, 0:30:33]: uh in the area. It is very exciting time. [0:30:33, 0:30:44]: And there's so much more that we could go over, but I'll leave that uh for Mr. Sylvan to come in and talk about his particular projects and uh actually other projects that are coming to the area. [0:30:49, 0:30:53]: Thank you, Councilman. Any um any questions or comments for the councilman? [0:30:58, 0:31:18]: All right, hearing none, we'll move on to new business. Um, the first item on the new business uh section is uh action for the uh absent board member. Um I made this group aware that um uh one of our board members has um you know been absent from from these meetings and is not uh [0:31:18, 0:31:38]: Um, I've been unable to reach this individual. Um the suggestion was made to send a certified letter to this uh person's business that that has been done by our attorney. The attorney drafted the letter and that was sent. Um I don't have the exact date, um, but uh we do have the trace of it in [0:31:38, 0:31:58]: in our email um and uh there's been no the the the the certified letter asked for the apps uh for the board member to contact me to indicate his intention to continue serving on the board and i've received no response via email or or phone neither has our attorney's office um [0:31:58, 0:32:04]: I'd like to ask this board to uh but we're if I could if if I could sorry [0:32:04, 0:32:24]: If I could before we go in there, since this is a personnel matter, there shouldn't it really be in the closed session? We have a closed session schedule today. I don't think this is not a personnel matter. This is this is a this is a board member who has uh who is serving on the DDA and has been absent well [0:32:24, 0:32:35]: But still I think six of the last seven meetings. We don't do things this way. We discuss an individual. You discussed the five years. We've already dis all right. And you're interrupting me. [0:32:35, 0:32:42]: I know that. I'll ask in the board. This is this is improper to be discussing this. You're you should be addressing to the chair. [0:32:43, 0:32:47]: It's improper to be doing this in public. That's my point. [0:32:52, 0:33:05]: I ask that we do this in closed session when we can talk about it and we can talk about individual and their performances. That's what I request. All right. So the board has already approved the agenda for today, and that's not what we discussed to have in the closed session. [0:33:06, 0:33:10]: And we already discussed this matter in our January meeting. [0:33:10, 0:33:24]: And it's public record as far as who attended these meetings in the last seven meetings. I'm asking this board to make a recommendation to the city council to refill that position that's been abandoned. [0:33:27, 0:33:29]: So I'll open it up for discussion. [0:33:32, 0:33:33]: Councilman, would you like to make a comment? [0:33:34, 0:33:37]: First of all, i is the attorney on this call [0:33:38, 0:33:47]: No, the the the engagement we have with our attorney is to be on the call when and if we need it. But when we're discussing items like this, a personnel matter. [0:33:48, 0:34:01]: This the attorney needs to be present. That's the precedent for the city council in what we do. We do not discuss items like this. What we do is we discuss these behind closed doors and we make an announcement to the public. [0:34:02, 0:34:03]: We do not discuss. [0:34:03, 0:34:08]: or no anybody's attendance or anything like that in public. We do that in the closed session. [0:34:08, 0:34:12]: And if we were gonna make a decision, we were bringing that out to the public. [0:34:12, 0:34:17]: We would make the decision and then we would move on. The details would not be discussed in public. [0:34:17, 0:34:36]: That is my portion. That is what uh my contention is, is that if we want to discuss this any further, we should defer it to uh its closed session and then come out and then make the official request uh to the city council. That's my suggestion, but the board can do whatever the board wants to do. [0:34:39, 0:34:41]: All right, any other comments? [0:34:45, 0:34:47]: What would be the harm in [0:34:47, 0:34:47]: Yeah. [0:34:49, 0:34:53]: In in in in adding this to our closed session, adding this item. [0:34:53, 0:34:54]: For a closed session. [0:34:56, 0:35:03]: If um uh if the board approved if if the board is willing to do that then then there's I don't see any harm in that. [0:35:05, 0:35:10]: Uh I I I move that we that we add this item to our closed session today. [0:35:11, 0:35:11]: Second [0:35:13, 0:35:20]: All right. So we have a motion to uh move this item to our closed session and it's been seconded. Does anybody have any further comments or discussion? [0:35:23, 0:35:28]: All right. All those in favor of discussing this as a personnel matter in our closed session, please. [0:35:28, 0:35:29]: Raise your hand. [0:35:31, 0:35:51]: All right, that's unanimous. We'll move on. This is related to the officer elections, which were due is uh per our bylaws. We're supposed to have officer elections in the first meeting of the uh of each year. Um this board agreed to postpone those elections pending the uh filling of the vacant position. [0:35:51, 0:35:52]: Um [0:35:53, 0:36:13]: I um am uh at this point I'm kind of neutral, I'll say, as far as holding the officer elections now. Um well let me let me go let me go a step further. I've I've made uh I've made my uh intentions known to this group that I need to step back from chair. Um and [0:36:13, 0:36:33]: um but i would like to for us to have the elections in um you know when when we have uh the board positions fully filled and um and we have someone who's willing to take the uh chair position i don't want to leave it abandoned and uh so um i i guess i'd like [0:36:33, 0:36:46]: to suggest that we um we we we postpone the officer elections and this is for the chair vice chair treasurer secretary uh until we have this fake until what i perceive to be a vacancy is filled [0:36:51, 0:36:52]: Was that a motion, Roger? [0:36:53, 0:37:02]: Um I'll go ahead and state that as a motion that we postpone the officer elections until we have um a full um a full seated board. [0:37:03, 0:37:04]: Okay. [0:37:06, 0:37:09]: Thank you, Bob. Any uh any discussion or further comments on that? [0:37:14, 0:37:34]: All right, seeing none hearing none. All those in favor of postponing the elections until uh the board positions are filled. Thank you. That's unanimous. All right. Uh we have old business, which is the uh I'll start with the uh MLK Senior Memorial Public Art Update. Um we did I mentioned in our last meeting that that [0:37:34, 0:37:44]: um that w that draft has been completed. Uh we're now uh planning the uh uh what I'll call it is a socialization of that um [0:37:44, 0:38:04]: uh proposal to the members of the council and ultimately to present to the council in a in a public forum. We just want to be very sensitive to the uh uh to the fact that this is a very um um you know public figure and uh we want to make sure that it's done in the right way with respect to uh [0:38:04, 0:38:11]: uh MLK seniors uh um uh heritage and of course the uh MLK family. [0:38:11, 0:38:20]: Um so um I will keep, you know, Kira and I are actually uh are planning um uh presentations to um [0:38:20, 0:38:40]: Uh socialize this with the individual members of the um of the council just to make sure that we get their feedback and incorporate that into the proposal so we can move forward. Our our intent is to have consideration for um uh uh uh funding this particular endeavor in the 2024. [0:38:40, 0:38:42]: or um uh budget. [0:38:43, 0:38:46]: Um any any questions or comments on that? [0:38:49, 0:38:49]: Um [0:38:50, 0:38:50]: Yeah. [0:38:50, 0:38:59]: Chair Custon. Yes, I just wanted to make note that there won't be a March work session meeting, so as far as your calendar was concerned. [0:39:00, 0:39:01]: And trying to get it before the council. [0:39:02, 0:39:10]: The next meeting will be um February twenty-eighth and then we have the March thirteenth, but we will not have a March work session. [0:39:11, 0:39:29]: Thank you for that, Vanessa. I think our intent is to have uh individual meetings with uh the council members just to uh make sure we hear any uh thoughts they have on the um subject and then uh before we um uh formally present it to the council. [0:39:31, 0:39:32]: All right, thank you. [0:39:32, 0:39:41]: Ki Kira, did you did you have anything to add to that? I was just saying it was gonna we were gonna try to set up the three and three meetings. Right. Yeah. [0:39:41, 0:39:42]: All right. [0:39:44, 0:40:04]: All right, um next item on the agenda is the DD new DDA logo. So uh I I would like to you know ask each of you to use the uh new logo in your email signatures. Um I will s I will follow up with um uh the actual logo and the instruction on how to use that in your in your [0:40:04, 0:40:24]: your when you're sending email addresses uh or excuse me when you're sending emails um next up would be to uh plan and design the uh business cards using our new logo i think it'd be important for each of us to have our business cards uh as well as uh the facade grant uh marketing and uh so just [0:40:24, 0:40:43]: just keep tuned into that. And if there is anything that you think should have our logo on it, please check the usage guide that came with the logo package. And if you have any questions, you can check with me or Kira or Kim Alons on the appropriate use for the logos and colors. [0:40:44, 0:41:04]: Um all right, I still don't see that we have uh our guest speakers have joined, so we will um uh I'll make one more announcement and then we'll um we'll ask to move into the closed session. So um so looking at the old business, I'm actually skipping to item D, which is the committee to draft the intergovernmental. [0:41:04, 0:41:24]: agreement uh with the city. That is in its final stage. Our attorney is um uh try has been trying uh has been unsuccessful but been trying well both both the attorneys have been busy and uh this is I think spring week or whatever and so um but they they they [0:41:23, 0:41:43]: they are scheduled to meet at some they're not scheduled but they will they will meet to review the remaining points that were raised as concerns from the city's perspective on the IGA. Once that's done we will have kind of a final draft. I expect to have that in front of this board by our next meeting um barring any other uh delays and then we can [0:41:43, 0:42:03]: uh get that to a signature. And um uh Mr. Anderson, that's uh this is really just to I think I mentioned it to you when we met this is just to have a standing um uh basis for how we conduct how the DDA conducts business with the city. We know as far as you know we get our funding from the city and what [0:42:03, 0:42:10]: would be the expectation of any shared resources that are used. That's really the main objective of this IGA. [0:42:11, 0:42:12]: Any questions or comments on that? [0:42:15, 0:42:34]: All right, so uh the only other item we have on the agenda is to talk about the uh master plan and the uh personnel matters. So uh I'd like to make a motion that we um adjourn into the uh closed session to discuss real estate matters and personnel. [0:42:35, 0:42:36]: My second. [0:42:36, 0:42:39]: Thank you, Fran. Any uh discussion? [0:42:41, 0:42:47]: All right. Um all those in favor, please raise your hand to move into closed session. [0:42:47, 0:43:07]: All right, thank you. And oh I I should have made clear and I'll I'll actually let me restate my motion. I'd like to include since this involves um since this involves uh a master plan for the city, Kira is um is with us here for representing um Kim Alons, who had a uh prior commitment this evening. [0:43:07, 0:43:27]: could not be with so I would like to include Kira in the closed session as well as uh uh City Clerk Vanessa Holliday so I want to make that clear that I'd like to include those two individuals in the closed session. So let me restate that motion with uh with that caveat that we include the uh uh city staff. [0:43:27, 0:43:30]: in the closed session so um [0:43:31, 0:43:33]: I'll make that as a a restated motion. [0:43:34, 0:43:38]: I second. Miss Holliday. [0:43:41, 0:43:52]: Mr. Custin I'm here. Go ahead. Okay. Does the same principles apply that real we need to indicate personnel, real estate, and litigation going into closed session? [0:43:53, 0:43:58]: What do you mean this same you know as we do when we make the motion at the council? [0:43:59, 0:44:03]: to indicating that what we're going to discuss real estate personnel litigation. [0:44:05, 0:44:13]: Yes, he stated that. He said really personally. Okay, he did okay, okay. My my internet must have went out then. Okay, I'm sorry. He did. Thank you. [0:44:13, 0:44:16]: Thank you. All right. Any other discussion? [0:44:18, 0:44:24]: All right, now all those in favor to uh go into closed session for real estate and personal matters. [0:44:24, 0:44:36]: Thank you. All right. Um, I will need about 10 minutes to set up the meeting invitation to the closed session. It will come as a Zoom invitation. [0:44:36, 0:44:48]: And uh if you have any trouble, please uh text or call me in about 10 minutes. So let's let's just make it for the top of the hour at 7 p.m. And I should have it set up in the next few minutes for you to join. [0:44:49, 0:44:51]: No, thank you. Great, thank you. Thank you all. [0:44:53, 0:44:54]: Thank you. [0:44:59, 0:45:10]: All right, so we have uh um motion to I'd like to make a motion to adjourn the um closed session that was for personnel and real estate. [0:45:12, 0:45:12]: Second [0:45:13, 0:45:13]: Okay. [0:45:14, 0:45:17]: Thank you. And all those in favor, please raise your hand. [0:45:18, 0:45:21]: Uh Fran, I think you're off camera so you can say yes or no. [0:45:22, 0:45:24]: Gotcha. All right. [0:45:24, 0:45:31]: And uh with that, uh are there any uh closing remarks before we motion to adjourn? [0:45:34, 0:45:37]: All right. Uh so I'd like to go ahead and make a motion to adjourn. [0:45:39, 0:45:40]: Perfect. [0:45:40, 0:45:43]: Thank you, Councilman. Any discussion? [0:45:44, 0:45:47]: All right, none all in favor of adjourning, please raise your hand. [0:45:47, 0:45:58]: Thank you so much. I know it was an extra long session tonight, but I really appreciate your work and effort on the DDA. Have a great rest of the evening. Thank you. Bye-bye. The news was great. Mr. Edison, welcome aboard again. [0:45:59, 0:46:08]: Welcome, Bob. Yeah, like it. Thank you all. Very impressive. Thank you. Thank you all so much for everything you do. Absolutely. Take care. Thank you.

--- title: Regular Council Meetings date: 2023-02-13 source: 2023-02-13_Regular_Council_Meetings.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:04]: So I'll follow back the U.S. [0:00:05, 0:00:10]: Doctor Mills. Sir, you and everybody else come on up please. [0:00:27, 0:00:34]: Come on down. Come on down. The center of the room is right here where the crest is, so come on down. We wanna split the center of the room here. Come on down, please. [0:00:37, 0:00:41]: Ladies and gentlemen, uh this evening we're having more of our ceremonial [0:00:41, 0:01:01]: part of our pre me part prior to our actual meetings which starts in roughly half an hour. Uh but uh but uh ceremonial type of things like write a couple got a couple of proclamations a day and some swearing ins uh to do. And it's always a glorious time to uh sit up and recognize uh individuals, recognize in this case [0:01:01, 0:01:21]: I would say it says college, but I'm gonna say university. Right? Okay. And by the way, just out of curiosity, how many of you all watched the Super Bowl game last night? How many of you all watched the Super Bowl game? All right. Yeah, he says yes, team won. I mean it was a good game though, by the way. It was a good game. It was a good game. I mean three points. What I mean, what can you what [0:01:21, 0:01:41]: What can you say about that? That was excellent. I have to admit I was a little torn. I gotta go on this soapbox now. I'm a little torn. I'm originally from St. Louis, Missouri, so Kansas City is on the other side of the state. That's right. So I was like, uh I'm not pulling for Kansas City. But then again, Jalen Hurts and uh Devontae uh Smith, right, went to the University of Alabama. My one only child attended and graduated. [0:01:41, 0:01:43]: for university out of balance and and [0:01:43, 0:01:51]: Our d her name is Ariana and and she had actually was in class several classes with Jalen Hurts. You know, they went they were in college at the same time, so [0:01:51, 0:01:57]: I told her she's very blessed to be in a college environment to win two national championships within a four year period. So that's great stuff. [0:01:58, 0:02:02]: And and what we're gonna do tonight, I as is a lead in, uh, for I have a proclamation here. [0:02:02, 0:02:07]: And to honor Gordon State uh College in reference to a national club football association. [0:02:07, 0:02:16]: And they are also champions, the 2022 champions. So we'll honor some champions tonight. This is fantastic. [0:02:17, 0:02:17]: Oh. [0:02:19, 0:02:19]: Well [0:02:20, 0:02:40]: And obviously this gentleman here is the president of college, uh Dr. Nooks. And um and I know you have several members of your staff that are with you. We'll get the opportunity to speak a little later in just a bit. Um but I am a football fan and this is this is great stuff. And I know it's great for the school. And I'm assuming some of these young men here, some of the uh ball players on the on the [0:02:39, 0:02:49]: on the team. Fantastic. So what this is, is proclamation city of Stockbridge, Georgia, in recognition of Gordon State College, National Club Football Association twenty twenty two champions. [0:02:50, 0:03:10]: Whereas Gordon State College is a public institution founded in 1852 and located in Barnesville, Georgia, with a campus size of 235 acres, and where Henry County serves as the number one of the 14 county primary service regions. Whereas Gordon State College cultivates and enriches the supportive environment that prepares students. [0:03:10, 0:03:16]: and continues their educational career through a variety of b baccalaureate, post-baccalaureate, and professional degree uh degrees. [0:03:16, 0:03:23]: And where outstanding milestones can only be achieved through the determination and loyalty of the students and strong leadership of Dr. Kirk Nooks president. [0:03:24, 0:03:27]: Bingo. There he is. All right. Live and in person. [0:03:27, 0:03:30]: Whereas this is achieved through a diverse faculty of staff, [0:03:32, 0:03:34]: You hear? Okay. [0:03:34, 0:03:54]: of modern uh technology and thriving campus life to engage the students such as as music, theater productions, student art shows, movies, dances, clubs, instrumental sports, whereas Gordon State Club Football started three years ago under leadership of Coach Kevin Atkins and oh okay, your assistant coach? [0:03:54, 0:04:00]: No, all right, it's coats. Fantastic coats, all right. Uh fantastic, there you go. [0:04:04, 0:04:09]: The Highlanders won back to back champions in two thousand twenty-one and twenty twenty-two. [0:04:09, 0:04:27]: All right, like a UJ, they're the double dual champions here. So now you're gonna go for a three-peat, right? Go for a three-peat, okay. And whereas Gordon State uh College Highlanders are the twenty twenty-two national champions of the National Club Football Association, defeating the Ohio State Buckeyes, thirty-five fifteen. [0:04:27, 0:04:31]: In the NFCA national championship game in Waynesboro, Pennsylvania. [0:04:32, 0:04:52]: N NCFA announced individual awards of four Highlanders, including bowl game MVP, Defensive Player of the Year, Assistant of the Year, and Freshman of the Year. Now, therefore, I, Anthony S. Ford, by virtue of authority vested in me as American City Stockbridge Georgia, and on behalf of City Council members, Elton Alexander, Yolanda Barber, John Blount, Lakeisha Gannon, Five. [0:04:52, 0:05:02]: Fonsel Thomas hereby congratulate the Gordon State College Highlanders for an amazing championship season and wish you continued success. And witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand [0:05:02, 0:05:13]: on a great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the thirteenth day of February of the year of our Lord uh twenty two thousand and twenty three. And I signed this uh along with our clerk Vanessa Holiday. Congratulations. [0:05:16, 0:05:25]: I'm good. No problem. So the so the floor is yours and and I would imagine even your coach may want to say some things as well, sir, please. Um [0:05:25, 0:05:45]: On behalf of Gordon State College, we just want to thank uh Mayor Ford and the city of Stockbridge. Uh, Henry County is our number one sending county. So over 3,000 students are at Gordon State College, and Henry County sends the most students to us. We are thrilled to be a partner with you. Uh Mayor Ford has been [0:05:45, 0:06:00]: Been there since day one with us, uh continual supporter and cheerleader. And we can't thank the residents of Stockbridge and um from Henry County uh as much as we can. You all mean so much to us. Uh at this time I'd like to acknowledge [0:06:01, 0:06:16]: Coach Kevin Atkins who who has been doing the work day in and d day out with these young men to turn them into leaders on the field. And we're so proud of his work and his uh his character and what he's doing at the program. So Coach Atkins, come and say for your way. [0:06:18, 0:06:19]: Mm-hmm. [0:06:19, 0:06:37]: Hey, it's a pleasure pleasure to be here. I'm a I'm a resident of Henry County. You know, and Henry County been great for us. Uh these gentlemen here um superstar for us. They from Henry County. That's one of our main sources to recruit from. And really we owe this championship to Henry County. Okay, round applause. [0:06:39, 0:06:54]: Um, so um so fantastic job to the the administration, staff and faculty at Gordon State. They've been awesome in the support and um looking forward to another great year and looking forward to to having another great year in recruiting season from Henry County. Thank y'all for all y'all do. [0:07:00, 0:07:14]: We'd also like to thank our uh administrative leadership. Um so we've got Dr. Tanya Moore, who's our chief of staff, Montrice Adjur Fuller, uh who's our vice president for advancement external relations and marketing, who's also a Henry County resident. [0:07:14, 0:07:26]: Uh and then Doctor Joanne Ardovini uh is here as our vice president who oversees our club sport. So Doctor Ardovini, I'm not sure if you want to say a few words or if you're okay. [0:07:26, 0:07:45]: I'm just extremely happy that you beat uh the University of Hawaii Ohio. So from Michigan, that's a big deal. Oh yes, it is. So thank you very much. No problem. Also to our coaches and to our outstanding students. Any of would you all like to say anything? [0:07:46, 0:07:47]: Okay. [0:07:48, 0:08:02]: I just wanna uh say I graduated from community Christian School here in Stockbridge. So this is this is like home to me and I just wanna say thank you for coming out here and supporting us when we get an award and everything and um just come out and support us next season. Thank you. [0:08:07, 0:08:25]: Hey, how y'all doing? Uh my name is Mitchell Smith. I went to Union Grove High School. Uh actually with this guy right here. Me and him were teammates in high school and just got lucky enough to be back with him. I thank God for that. Um and yeah, like Patrice my boy Pacer said, come and support us next season. Uh we'll have plenty of home games. So come on. [0:08:29, 0:08:34]: Uh how y'all doing? Uh my name is Michael Johnson. Uh I'm team captain of Gordon State College. [0:08:36, 0:08:56]: Uh I am also the uh recipient of the Highlander Edge Leadership Award. Um on behalf of Gordon State, I just want to thank y'all for all that y'all do. Uh I'm also I went to Union Grove High School class in 2019. Um and I grew up in Herring County all my life, and it's always been good to me. Good friends here, you know what I'm saying? Oh, sorry, forgot to be professional about it. [0:08:56, 0:09:00]: But thank you all. We appreciate y'all. [0:09:03, 0:09:08]: Okay, so we just need to take some take some pictures here. So uh Miss Barber? [0:09:08, 0:09:10]: Yeah, yeah, so [0:09:10, 0:09:18]: Okay. So no no we're gonna no you serve right this way. No no no on on the side. On the side. [0:09:18, 0:09:20]: Okay, so we so we [0:09:20, 0:09:28]: Uh uh I'm sorry, you don't we're gonna get one with you just said. I'm sorry to move away from that. Oh no, you're you're fine, sir. Okay. Okay. [0:09:31, 0:09:33]: Good, that's great. [0:09:35, 0:09:35]: Oh [0:09:36, 0:09:38]: All right, everyone ready? [0:09:39, 0:09:42]: Moved a little bit, right? [0:09:43, 0:09:50]: All right. Now we'll get everybody else in here, please. Come on around. You might have to double up. Get come on up come on in junk guys. [0:09:50, 0:09:54]: [600.0, 600.9]: Yeah, let's keep it [0:10:01, 0:10:03]: Which winds face a little bit smile. [0:10:04, 0:10:05]: [607.0, 608.4]: Yeah, take a little. [0:10:09, 0:10:10]: Garrett? [0:10:11, 0:10:14]: I need to take one more. [0:10:16, 0:10:18]: Yeah, yeah. [0:10:25, 0:10:30]: They're just making it all right. [0:10:35, 0:10:50]: I appreciate the next time. Thanks so much. We'll see you next time. [0:11:00, 0:11:02]: Yeah, we can do that next. [0:11:09, 0:11:09]: Experience. [0:11:10, 0:11:26]: Are we registering the screen? Yeah, uh the meeting starts at six o'clock, but if you want to speak you need to sign up, you need to sign up with the peripheral meeting. Okay. I just want to know the answer is yes. This is this is this is our ceremony piece. That's what starts at six o'clock. [0:11:29, 0:11:31]: Oh t shirts. Okay, okay, okay, good then. [0:11:34, 0:11:36]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, we're gonna continue on. We actually have here [0:11:37, 0:11:39]: We actually have I don't know if you wanna you wanna come, John? [0:11:47, 0:11:50]: All right. Anyway, so what I have here is a proclamation. [0:11:51, 0:12:05]: Let me tell her to step over here. Okay. Ma'am? Miss you wanna step over here? At her desk. At her desk. Uh she said that I'm going to be on the case. She she she's gonna get it for you. She's gonna get it. [0:12:07, 0:12:07]: All right. [0:12:08, 0:12:28]: So I hear a proclamation from City of Stockbridge recognition of Black History Month. This is February, excerpts from the 2023 Presidential Proclamation. Whereas in 1915, Dr. Carter Goodwin Woodson, noted Black scholar and son of former slaves, founded an association of study for Negro Life and History, which was later renamed. [0:12:28, 0:12:48]: Association Study of African American Life and History, A-S-A-L-H. And whereas each February, National History Month serves as both a celebration and powerful reminder of that black history is American history, black culture is American culture, and black stories are essential to the ongoing story of America. Our faults, our struggles, our progress, and [0:12:48, 0:12:58]: And our aspirations. And whereas during National Black History Month, we celebrate the legacy of black Americans whose power to lead, to overcome, to expand the meaning and practice of American democracy. [0:12:58, 0:13:02]: has helped our nation become more fair and a just society. [0:13:02, 0:13:22]: Whereas this country was established upon the profound but simple idea that all people are created equal and should be treated equally throughout their lives. And whereas the struggles and challenges of a black American story to make a way out of no way have been crucial where our resolve to fulfill his vision, this vision has motivated. [0:13:22, 0:13:42]: Most often been tested. Whereas Black Americans struggle for freedom, equal treatment, and the right to vote, for equal opportunities in education, housing, the workplace, for economic opportunity, equal justice and political representation, and so much more have prof reformed our democracy far beyond its founding. Black Americans have made a way. [0:13:42, 0:14:02]: Not only for themselves, but also have helped build a highway for millions of women, immigrants, and historically marginalized communities and all Americans to more fully experience the benefits of our society. Now there are now, therefore I, Anthony S. Ford, by virtue of authority vested in me, is the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. And on behalf of City Council members Elton Alexander and [0:14:02, 0:14:06]: Lana Barber, John Blount, Nakisha Gantt and Afonso Thomas hereby to proclaim [0:14:07, 0:14:27]: Hereby proclaim February twenty twenty three as National Black History Month, and we call upon public officials, educators, librarians, and others observed the relevant programs, ceremonies, and activities. In witness thereof, I have hereunto set my hand in the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the thirteenth day of February, the year of our Lord, two thousand and twenty-two, and I sign this along. [0:14:27, 0:14:28]: with our clear financial holiday. [0:14:29, 0:14:32]: And in a sense, uh I'm gonna hand this to uh Councilman uh [0:14:33, 0:14:41]: Thom Thomas and because I know he has a he has a program a little later on this month for the city of St. Gunnar. So here he goes, T council Thomas, sir. Please see you. Thank you, Mayor. [0:14:45, 0:14:47]: I'm going to reveal [0:14:48, 0:14:49]: My t shirt. [0:14:51, 0:14:53]: Let me say thank you to the mayor and council for [0:14:54, 0:14:56]: Uh supporting [0:14:56, 0:14:58]: Uh this celebration [0:14:58, 0:15:00]: Uh this is the twelfth. [0:15:00, 0:15:01]: Annual [0:15:01, 0:15:04]: African American Heritage Celebration. [0:15:04, 0:15:09]: And and again, thanks to the mayor and the council for supporting. [0:15:10, 0:15:11]: The emphasis this year [0:15:12, 0:15:14]: Із себе брати [0:15:14, 0:15:15]: The beloved community. [0:15:16, 0:15:18]: Back in December [0:15:18, 0:15:21]: Uh I had the pleasure of hosting [0:15:21, 0:15:29]: Our volunteers and all of our board members. And that was a tribute to them to say thank you for. [0:15:30, 0:15:33]: Working partner with the city of Stockbridge. [0:15:34, 0:15:36]: This black history celebration this year. [0:15:37, 0:15:39]: We are celebrating [0:15:40, 0:15:50]: the what we call the divine nine. It is the black fraternities and sororities that serves Henry County and Clayton County. [0:15:50, 0:15:54]: And in my research and in our partner basically. [0:15:54, 0:16:05]: They have served this community, scholarship, mentoring programs, et cetera, et cetera. So we thought it was fitting this year to reach out and to [0:16:05, 0:16:12]: celebrate them. So this event, the twelfth annual African American Heritage Celebration, is February [0:16:13, 0:16:14]: The twenty fifth [0:16:14, 0:16:16]: From four to seven PM [0:16:16, 0:16:18]: At the Murray Manders Conference Center. [0:16:18, 0:16:20]: And we will be celebrating [0:16:21, 0:16:34]: uh black fraternities and sororities, the uh Pan Atlantic Council, better known as the Divine Nine. So again I want to thank the mayor and the Council for supporting. And as the years go on, Hispanic Mont [0:16:34, 0:16:41]: we will be celebrating all ethnicities. So again, thank you and please come. [0:16:45, 0:16:45]: [1008.3, 1015.7]: Y'all come in. Did I miss the memo on five thirty? Five thirty. Did I miss the memo? For the ceremony? Yeah. [0:16:57, 0:17:15]: Thank you very much. Okay. Yes. You missed the memo. Who knows? Did I miss the memo at five thirty? Uh I you must have. Thank you so much. Thank you. I don't know how I missed it. Okay, I I couldn't want to tell you. Okay, so on that note uh we have next uh [0:17:16, 0:17:28]: We have next some proclamation uh excuse me, some oath of offices. And um let's do the downtown development authority uh first. So Robert Anderson, are you here, sir? Come on, come on up, sir, please. [0:17:30, 0:17:34]: Okay. Okay. Okay. [0:17:34, 0:17:39]: Come on up, sir. Why don't you uh should you get on this side please? No, okay. [0:17:40, 0:17:45]: And uh Roger, did you want to come and stand next to your board member? [0:17:45, 0:17:46]: Sure. [0:17:52, 0:18:03]: Well to be surprised because I'm gonna wan ask you to raise your right hand and I'm gonna take this small snippet snippets and I'd like for you to repeat after me. Okay. I and state your name. [0:18:03, 0:18:23]: I Robert Anderson. Board member. Board member. Do solemnly swear and affirm. Do solemnly swear and affirm. That I will faithfully perform. That I will faithfully perform. The duties of the downtown development authority. The duties of the downtown development authority. Of the city of Stockbridge. Of the City of Stockbridge. And that I will to the best of my ability. To the best of my ability. Support and defend. The charter thereof. [0:18:23, 0:18:26]: The charter thereof. As well as the constitution. [0:18:26, 0:18:32]: As well as the constitution. And laws of the state of Georgia. And laws of the state of Georgia. And the United States of America. [0:18:32, 0:18:52]: I further affirm I further affirm that upon assumption of this office I do not hold any unaccounted for public money any unaccounted for public money due and payable to the state due and payable to the state any political subdivision of the state any political subdivision of the state the city of Stockbridge or any authority thereof [0:18:52, 0:19:12]: Or any authority thereof. Nor do I hold nor do I hold any other office of trust of the government of the United States of the United States of this state of this state or any foreign state as prescribed by the law of the state of Georgia? I solemnly affirm that I'm faithfully qualified. [0:19:12, 0:19:24]: I am fully qualified. Under the Constitution and the laws of the state to hold office of downtown development. Downtown Development Authority Board Member. [0:19:24, 0:19:28]: Of downtown authority. Downtown development authority board member. [0:19:28, 0:19:48]: Of downtown authorment authority board members. And that I will perform the duties of my office in the best interest of the city of Stockbridge to the best of my ability without fear. Without fear. Favor. Favor. Affection. Affection. Reward. Or expectation thereof. [0:19:48, 0:19:56]: Or expectation thereof. And it's thirteenth day of February 2023. And it's thirteenth day of February, twenty twenty-three. Congratulations, sir. [0:19:59, 0:20:02]: Congratulations. Yo, Landa. [0:20:03, 0:20:06]: Welcome back. [0:20:07, 0:20:08]: All right. [0:20:08, 0:20:20]: [1247.4, 1262.1]: Yeah we have to take a phone. We'll take a phone. Yeah, we'll take a phone. Take a lot of pictures here, don't we? Yes sir. I know you know. Okay. All right. Thanks, sir. [0:21:04, 0:21:05]: All right. [0:21:07, 0:21:10]: With a DVD number. [0:21:14, 0:21:18]: Thank you very much. [0:21:20, 0:21:40]: You good? Yeah. Did you did you did you want to say anything in all, sir? No, no, I'm fine. You good? Um return. Well you can't put it on the steps in the other councilman Alexander. [0:21:40, 0:21:41]: Thank you. [0:21:44, 0:21:50]: Okay, thank you. I was looking at my RU but yeah I just had a code versus [0:22:01, 0:22:04]: [1329.2, 1330.7]: Yeah, because you're good. [0:22:12, 0:22:14]: No known to myself. I just known to myself. [0:22:15, 0:22:23]: Okay, ladies and gentlemen, we actually have uh another swearing in to do and this deals with the youth council advisory committee member. So uh [0:22:23, 0:22:26]: Uh Diana, if I gotta pronounce right Williams. [0:22:26, 0:22:30]: Yeah, come on up please. And Mr. Thomas Smith. Come on up, please. [0:22:45, 0:22:52]: How you doing? Okay. Now you both of you could raise your raise your right hand and uh [0:22:52, 0:23:12]: I'm gonna do a little snippet here so you can repeat after me, okay? I am please state your name. I Diana Williams. Committee member? Committee member. Do solemnly swear and affirm. Do solemnly swear and affirm. That I will faithfully perform. And I will faithfully perform. The duties of the youth council advisory committee. Of the city of Stockbridge. [0:23:12, 0:23:32]: And that I will to the best of my ability to support and defend the charter thereof as well as the Constitution and laws of the state of Georgia and the United States of America and the United States of America. I further affirm that upon assumption of this office. [0:23:32, 0:23:52]: I do not hold any unaccountable for public money. Any accountable for public money. Do and payable to the state. Doing payable to the state. Any political subdivision of the state. Any political subdivision of the state. The city of Stockbridge. The city of Stockbridge. Or any authority thereof. Or any authority thereof. Nor do I hold any other office of trust. Any other office of trust. [0:23:52, 0:24:12]: Of the n of the governor of the United States. Of the governor of the United States. Of this state. Of this state. Or any foreign state as prescribed by law. As prescribed by law. Of the state of Georgia. Of the state of Georgia. I will perform the duties of my office in the best interest of the city of Stockbridge to the best of my ability. [0:24:12, 0:24:32]: To the best of my ability. Without fear, without fear, favor, affection, affection, reward, or expectation thereof. Or expectation thereof. The thirteenth day of February. 2023. 2023. There you go. Thank you. Close it. [0:24:32, 0:24:38]: [1482.9, 1487.6]: Yeah. Yeah, the end of the good right here. Thank you. [0:25:02, 0:25:04]: Okay, Mr. Smith, right here, please. [0:25:10, 0:25:10]: [1513.9, 1518.5]: Yeah. Did either one of you want to say anything to the public here at all? [0:25:19, 0:25:29]: I'd like to say uh thank you. It's most humble and rewarding experience to have this opportunity to serve my city. [0:25:30, 0:25:32]: State and country in this position. [0:25:33, 0:25:41]: I'm also honored to serve the state of Georgia on the ML King Advisory Council and I'm always thoughtful and I think about Dr. King's state, but always. [0:25:41, 0:25:43]: He who would be greatest among you. [0:25:44, 0:25:56]: Would be in service to others. And I think there's no greater opportunity for us who are part of this and for those who are visiting today, Citizens Stockbridge. Our city is what it is and will be. [0:25:56, 0:25:58]: Because of us as citizens. [0:25:58, 0:26:00]: The leadership of the city. [0:26:00, 0:26:03]: And us of his volunteers being a part of that to make this kind of city. [0:26:04, 0:26:04]: To grow [0:26:05, 0:26:14]: for the youth of the city to be what we'd like to be. So again I say thank you to the mayor, all the city council members. Thank you again for this most wonderful and humble opportunity. Thank you. [0:26:16, 0:26:18]: Is there a sentence? [0:26:20, 0:26:40]: I would like to say thank you to each of you for this opportunity to be um and to hold a place for this next two years um on the Stockbridge Youth Council. I look forward to serving each of you. I hope that I meet each of you um at some point during the two years. Um I do have a lot of things that I wish to bring into Spearhead in the city of. [0:26:40, 0:26:58]: Stockbridge for our youth. I know that this is a time that is difficult and different for our youth, and I do hope that I am able to work um with the council as well as the state of Georgia to implement and and and just be. I'm sorry, I'm a bit of tears. [0:27:04, 0:27:06]: Just thank you. Sorry. [0:27:09, 0:27:11]: Most of it. [0:27:15, 0:27:19]: TC's right here, just take a picture. So we don't turn [0:27:19, 0:27:24]: It's okay. Congratulations. [0:27:25, 0:27:40]: Thank you. [0:27:44, 0:27:46]: Thank you very much. Okay, good doing. [0:27:47, 0:27:54]: Very nice to thank you. Congratulations to I'll get you out of touch with you. Okay. Well, thank you. [0:27:55, 0:27:58]: Thank you. Okay. [0:28:01, 0:28:02]: Okay. [0:28:02, 0:28:10]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, we have five roughly five minutes of the hour, so we get started the meeting roughly six o'clock. All right, so stand by. Thank you. How are you gonna have it? [0:28:30, 0:28:30]: You want to. [0:30:30, 0:30:34]: She's very fine. [0:30:35, 0:30:37]: Well, [0:32:09, 0:32:10]: Okay, it's all right. [0:32:38, 0:32:52]: We never mean this other stuff. [0:33:04, 0:33:07]: All right, ladies and gentlemen. I have uh 604, so we need to get the meeting started. [0:33:15, 0:33:16]: Yeah, that's what we call I know. [0:33:17, 0:33:20]: Okay. All right. Thank you. [0:33:40, 0:33:43]: [2026.0, 2030.1]: If you want to speak, we need to sign up. [0:34:05, 0:34:05]: Yeah. [0:34:10, 0:34:20]: I mean when did the five thirty notice go out? It went out. It went out. Okay. Did you get a job? I don't recall. It w it went out, but okay. All right. [0:34:23, 0:34:25]: All right, ladies and gentlemen. [0:34:28, 0:34:31]: I have six oh five. Uh so I like to call this uh [0:34:33, 0:34:34]: Okay, stand by. [0:35:35, 0:35:36]: Mm-hmm. [0:36:00, 0:36:01]: Okay. [0:36:02, 0:36:06]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, let's see here. I have six oh seven, so I'd like to call our um [0:36:06, 0:36:17]: Council meeting for February thirteenth to order. And on that note, I'd like to have Bishop uh Tillman of Floyd Chapel Baptist Church to give an invocation. And if you can, please stand. [0:36:24, 0:36:27]: Every head bowed, every eye closed. [0:36:27, 0:36:30]: Мост кайда мерсифо мастер, ви а онорд. [0:36:31, 0:36:35]: to have another opportunity to assemble ourselves to discuss the business of our city. [0:36:36, 0:36:39]: We thank you to God for being our king and our leader. [0:36:40, 0:37:00]: And we pray that you will continue to lead God and direct the leadership of our fair city. Give you all the honor, glory, and praise. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen. Amen. We'll do a pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag, the United States of America and to the Republic. [0:37:00, 0:37:04]: I regard individuals, the liberty and justice for us. [0:37:05, 0:37:07]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:37:10, 0:37:11]: Mayor Ford. [0:37:11, 0:37:12]: Ma'am, present. [0:37:13, 0:37:19]: Mayor Pro Tem Barber. Present. Councilman Alexander. Present. Councilman Blount. Present. [0:37:20, 0:37:25]: Councilwoman Gantt. Present. Councilman Thomas. Present. [0:37:25, 0:37:30]: Mayor Ford, do you have a call? Thank you, Madam Clerk. Uh Councilman Thomas, I I need uh motions to [0:37:31, 0:37:32]: Amend the agenda, please. [0:37:32, 0:37:34]: Mayor Ford and Council. [0:37:35, 0:37:39]: I moved to first of all, I have four. [0:37:39, 0:37:41]: Amendments to the agenda. [0:37:42, 0:37:45]: And we would take them one by one. [0:37:45, 0:37:46]: And have a vote. [0:37:47, 0:37:49]: uh on them individually. [0:37:49, 0:37:52]: The first motion is to amend the agenda. [0:37:53, 0:37:55]: To remove item eight. [0:37:56, 0:37:57]: Nine. [0:37:58, 0:37:59]: And ten. [0:37:59, 0:38:02]: From the agenda at the request [0:38:02, 0:38:04]: Of the legal department [0:38:04, 0:38:09]: and planning and zoning department until further notice. [0:38:10, 0:38:11]: Is there a second to the motion? [0:38:11, 0:38:16]: I second. Uh Ms. Uh Mayor Pro Tem Barber so second dad all in favor please indicate. [0:38:17, 0:38:19]: Announced decision. Thank you. Please. [0:38:19, 0:38:21]: Mayor Ford and Council, the [0:38:22, 0:38:25]: Second amendment to the agenda is a motion to amend the agenda. [0:38:26, 0:38:29]: To remove items twelve. [0:38:30, 0:38:31]: Thirteen. [0:38:31, 0:38:32]: Fourteen. [0:38:33, 0:38:34]: Fifteen. [0:38:34, 0:38:35]: And sixteen. [0:38:36, 0:38:39]: At the request of the applicant. [0:38:39, 0:38:40]: Is there a second to the motion? [0:38:41, 0:38:44]: Second. Um Mr. Dallas down or second down. All in favor, please indicate. [0:38:46, 0:38:47]: Nasty season. Thank you very much. [0:38:48, 0:38:51]: The third motion is to amend the agenda [0:38:51, 0:38:52]: To add [0:38:53, 0:38:55]: Agenda item seventeen. [0:38:55, 0:38:57]: A resolution [0:38:57, 0:39:00]: To officially welcome the new [0:39:00, 0:39:02]: Six tauzen [0:39:02, 0:39:09]: Six hundred and sixty seven residents to the city of Stockbridge. The second to the motion. [0:39:09, 0:39:10]: I second. [0:39:10, 0:39:12]: Ms. Gann, second that all in favor, please indicate. [0:39:13, 0:39:14]: Thank you very much. [0:39:15, 0:39:17]: Mayor and council the last [0:39:18, 0:39:20]: amendment to the agenda is to [0:39:21, 0:39:22]: Convene [0:39:22, 0:39:24]: Exekutive session [0:39:25, 0:39:26]: No. [0:39:27, 0:39:30]: And with public comments. [0:39:31, 0:39:32]: Dare. [0:39:34, 0:39:42]: I'm sorry, let me let me let me say this. I'm sorry to interrupt. Okay. Uh I've I would believe council executive session should probably come after our ceremonial [0:39:42, 0:39:59]: um uh piece of the of our agenda. That's my recommendation. Sir. Yes sir. That would be correct. After public speaking. It would be after it would be after public comments. And after I say put it after ceremonial so we can get through that as well. That's what I recommend. I'm sorry. For for [0:40:00, 0:40:13]: The executive session. Yes. Executive session for real estate, personnel, and litigation. Yes. Was there a second emotion? Sir. Ms. Mr. Alzheimer's saying all in favor, please indicate. Thank you. Namus decision. Thank you very much. [0:40:14, 0:40:18]: All right, uh what you have before you council or the adoption of the minutes. [0:40:19, 0:40:23]: From December twelfth council meeting and also December twentieth council work session. [0:40:23, 0:40:26]: Um so I need a motion to accept those please. [0:40:27, 0:40:32]: Mr. Blancot moved that there second. Ms. Barber uh Mayor Pro Tem Barber second that. All in favor, please indicate. [0:40:33, 0:40:36]: All right. On that note, fantastic. Okay, now [0:40:36, 0:40:40]: Now we're going to public comments. Um Madam Clerk, I would imagine we have several there. So uh [0:40:41, 0:40:45]: Uh public comments and you'll probably have to call them up because I don't have a list in front of me. [0:40:52, 0:40:57]: We have public comments from Miss I wanna make sure I get the name right. [0:40:58, 0:40:59]: You see us? [0:41:00, 0:41:04]: Did I get that right? Rhodesia? Terraces at Equal Clanty? [0:41:11, 0:41:11]: And [0:41:13, 0:41:33]: Let me uh let me mention too by public comments. You get three minutes unless the council rewards you any more. So three minutes to make your comment. And uh wanna make sure that you understand this from meeting decorum. Please address the mayor or the presiding officer, which is me in this case. Wait to be acknowledged before speaking. Please speak directly into the microphone to be heard by the in the chamber and online. [0:41:33, 0:41:43]: and be conscious of the live microphones and the audio is very sensitive so it can pick up conversations and it'd be part of a it'll be a part of a record if you happen to talk in the background and picks it up, okay? [0:41:50, 0:41:56]: I'm sorry, could we call the mayor? Yes, I'm sorry, sir. Could we call the name again? Apparently nobody's Well, uh see okay. [0:42:01, 0:42:07]: Need your name and the uh your address please in on to the mic. In the the mics on the side. There you go. [0:42:08, 0:42:10]: Good night, my name is Ania Bardisia. [0:42:11, 0:42:19]: I live in A41 Cowell Lane, McDonald, Georgia, 30253, and I'm here representing the terraces at Eagles Landing. [0:42:20, 0:42:25]: Good night, Major Ford. Thank you for the opportunity to give my opinion. [0:42:26, 0:42:40]: Basically it has been uh been to the attention of the board that there's a commercial industrial project development to construct a warehouse and the homeowners of the Terras Arriguez landing approximately one hundred and eighty-five houses. [0:42:41, 0:42:44]: We're not aware that there was a [0:42:44, 0:42:46]: A process to do that. [0:42:46, 0:42:51]: We therefore we did not have the opportunity to give our opinion on the [0:42:52, 0:42:53]: construction. [0:42:54, 0:42:56]: Apparently there was a change in zoning [0:42:56, 0:43:00]: And the project was approved under that, but when it changed to the new one [0:43:01, 0:43:01]: Um [0:43:02, 0:43:03]: It should not be there. [0:43:04, 0:43:11]: I just wanna bring to your attention that Yodeko Road is a two lane road that is already overwhelmed with traffic, including a train railroad crossing. [0:43:11, 0:43:17]: That creates traffic jams several times a day, at least ten to fifteen minutes every time the train passes. [0:43:18, 0:43:22]: The recent creation of Campgram Road, Jodico Road Intersection. [0:43:22, 0:43:28]: stoplight had created also heavy traffic, a Yodico Road that at times backowed the way to Daily Mill Road. [0:43:30, 0:43:35]: In addition to that, we have like two hundred or so apartments under construction on Foster Drive. [0:43:35, 0:43:38]: That would bring traffic also down Old Grove Road. [0:43:39, 0:43:41]: That it will be creating more traffic on Geodecov. [0:43:43, 0:43:54]: There's more construction on the other side of I seventy five, bridges apartments, for example. It's gonna create more than three hundred units that is good that it would be bringing traffic also to Jodeko Road. [0:43:55, 0:44:00]: Right now there are two luxury apartment complexes under construction on Jodeko Road two. [0:44:01, 0:44:02]: Next to Glaston Drive. [0:44:03, 0:44:06]: And how will drive, we should also create more traffic. [0:44:08, 0:44:17]: That's without the mention of Campground Road, Campground Road connecting to Highway forty two. The picture here is that the increase in population living in the area [0:44:18, 0:44:19]: But there's no increase. [0:44:20, 0:44:26]: in the size of the roads especially, Jodico Road, or the arterial roads that are connecting to it. [0:44:27, 0:44:33]: The entrance of our subdivision is facing a flat land since multiple houses on that property were demolished. [0:44:33, 0:44:36]: to convert it in apparently an axis. [0:44:37, 0:44:42]: We were not aware that a private party can khan buy a property and create a road. [0:44:42, 0:44:45]: on its own without having [0:44:45, 0:44:48]: Permit svorde county or sity. [0:44:48, 0:44:55]: zoning permits, etc., especially a study perhaps that goes over the impact in the area. [0:44:55, 0:44:57]: And if we are really [0:44:57, 0:45:00]: big enough for that's the proprietaria for that. [0:45:00, 0:45:09]: For me, it looks like a hostile takeover of land to convert in an industrial zone, regardless of the negative impact of the neighbors or their ability to enjoy their property. [0:45:09, 0:45:11]: In a residential, quiet, relaxing [0:45:12, 0:45:25]: Okay, let's do three minutes, uh uh ma'am. Three minutes is what's allowed unless the council wants to uh give her give her more than three. Yes, give her a couple more minutes. Let's get the council. Okay, we got two, is it any more? I have two people indicating. [0:45:26, 0:45:31]: Okay. It's only it's only two, so we don't have a consensus. Three minutes is up. We'll take the next person. Thank you, ma'am. [0:45:32, 0:45:36]: I have to go. No, yeah, y yes, ma'am, you do. At this point. Who's an expert individual? [0:45:38, 0:45:38]: Yeah. [0:45:43, 0:45:44]: Beth gotzing. [0:45:45, 0:45:45]: Wisconsin? [0:45:54, 0:46:07]: Name and address, please. So if you want to correct the name, I'm not sure the question is. You did. Thank you. Yes, ma'am. Name and address, please. Yes, ma'am. Yes, sir. Um, thank you so much. My name is Beth Godsey. I live at 67 and Court in McDonough, Georgia, 30253. [0:46:08, 0:46:14]: And I'm here, um, thank you s for your time, but to discuss the um development at one seventy five Canler Road. [0:46:14, 0:46:30]: which is right off of Jodeco Road. Um this this development is a um warehouse that is in a residential area. The road that it's being built off of is right in front of residential homes. Um it's on a small, I wouldn't even call that a two-lane road. [0:46:31, 0:46:31]: Um [0:46:31, 0:46:37]: So these houses are now affected, and that's in including me, because my house backs up to this road, and that's my backyard. [0:46:38, 0:46:46]: We're being affected by the noise that this is gonna bring. The the eighteen wheelers coming up and down this residential road in front of our ho homes. [0:46:46, 0:46:52]: We were not advised of this. We were not able we're my address is Henry County McDonough. This is a [0:46:52, 0:47:03]: a property this 44 acres that was annexed by the city of Stockbridge. So we had no way of knowing that this was permitted for a warehouse, nor to vote on that. We weren't advised that they were going to build this. [0:47:04, 0:47:07]: Um our property value is gonna go down. Um our [0:47:08, 0:47:16]: our prob our quality of life is actually gonna go down. If you if you think about it, there was forty-four acres of trees and habitat for our um [0:47:16, 0:47:25]: in you know, for our animals in that area, but also the air quality is gonna go down. That's that's trees that we're taking down. And the overdevelopment of Henry County is just very [0:47:26, 0:47:29]: Very depressing for a lot of вас because. [0:47:29, 0:47:49]: We the infrastructure's not there. Um, and for some of these residential areas to have to put up with uh now a large warehouse in their front yard, backyard, and then taking our road frontage to widen that small road to accommodate a warehouse that we didn't even get to vote on or even know was gonna come. So now we're losing road. [0:47:49, 0:47:54]: frontage so we're gonna be closer to these trucks coming up and down this road with no sort of [0:47:55, 0:48:08]: you know, green space to to help us not see that. Um, you know, I know this was permitted, I know they've done all the work, uh everything has been plowed down and there's spent millions of dollars out there, but it's really [0:48:08, 0:48:17]: um disheartening for the the people that live in this area that n to know that they're gonna have these security lights, we're never gonna have darkness, we're always gonna be in in this bright light. [0:48:18, 0:48:22]: and the impact it is on our on our property values and [0:48:22, 0:48:26]: And just our quality of life, to be honest, because this loud. [0:48:27, 0:48:29]: trucks and the lights and [0:48:29, 0:48:35]: you know, the air quality is all just diminishing for all of us that live in that area that have lived there for years. [0:48:36, 0:48:36]: And again [0:48:37, 0:48:38]: There's you know [0:48:38, 0:48:40]: It's a residential area. [0:48:40, 0:48:43]: In a warehouse and and there actually [0:48:43, 0:49:02]: Promoting the fact that they are one of the only warehouses in the area, so that will cut down on the traffic of big trucks. They won't have to compete with other eighteen wheelers coming in and out of that area. Um, but they will have to compete with that two-lane Johtaco Road. I thought that we built that campground Johtaco. [0:49:02, 0:49:10]: Um four lane road to help accommodate some of that extra traffic from the um new. Okay, there should three more. Thank you. [0:49:10, 0:49:11]: Appreciate it. [0:49:18, 0:49:20]: Mayor Desiree Fox. [0:49:36, 0:49:38]: Ma'am, please state your name and address. [0:49:39, 0:49:43]: Desiree Fox one thirty three Ashmore Court McDonough [0:49:43, 0:49:44]: Okay. [0:49:45, 0:49:52]: Okay. I'm here to speak about this warehouse that's being put up. [0:49:52, 0:49:57]: First, I'd like to thank Mister Alexander for bringing it to our attention. [0:49:58, 0:50:08]: because they started construction on this thing and nobody knew what was going on until it was brought to our attention. Um [0:50:11, 0:50:24]: Contractors have slid under the radar using a grandfathered in clause to get a permit to build this warehouse. They've torn down trees. [0:50:25, 0:50:28]: Let's talk about the logistics of this. [0:50:29, 0:50:31]: You've got a two lane road. [0:50:31, 0:50:37]: From for Jodico Road. A half a mile away there's a railroad track. [0:50:39, 0:50:42]: So that stops traffic on Jodeco. [0:50:43, 0:50:44]: And then [0:50:45, 0:50:51]: Then we get to who is going to pay to keep these roads? [0:50:51, 0:50:51]: Up. [0:50:53, 0:50:55]: А the tax payers [0:50:55, 0:51:01]: Are the taxpayers gonna have to keep up the roads? Because eighteen wheelers eat up roads. [0:51:02, 0:51:03]: Um [0:51:05, 0:51:13]: Jodico is a two-lane road with okay, with a railroad tra track that uh [0:51:14, 0:51:17]: close b backs up to houses. [0:51:18, 0:51:24]: It actually backs up to my grandfather's house. He's ninety six years old. [0:51:25, 0:51:26]: He's [0:51:26, 0:51:30]: He's doing great, but this is [0:51:30, 0:51:32]: Really eating him up. [0:51:33, 0:51:45]: He has no privacy. He's been there for thirty-five years and he's and he's watching his property value, which is his his uh [0:51:46, 0:51:50]: Водій з левінь то гі. [0:51:50, 0:51:52]: Is this piece of property? [0:51:53, 0:51:53]: Um [0:51:54, 0:51:58]: This impinges on our right to have a peaceful. [0:51:58, 0:51:59]: Environment. [0:52:01, 0:52:01]: Um [0:52:03, 0:52:10]: Property values of course will go down. Nobody wants to live by a warehouse. [0:52:11, 0:52:14]: Nobody wants to have lights on all the time. [0:52:15, 0:52:20]: I can take a rock and throw it from my backyard and hit this thing. [0:52:21, 0:52:23]: It's that close. [0:52:24, 0:52:28]: We're very upset about it, and we'd a like to ask that you [0:52:30, 0:52:32]: Do whatever it is that you do. [0:52:32, 0:52:35]: То ректифій ситуацію. [0:52:36, 0:52:37]: Рибил [0:52:38, 0:52:39]: Replant the [0:52:39, 0:52:42]: Two three minutes, ma'am. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. [0:52:51, 0:52:53]: Mayor Paula Sorrell. [0:53:03, 0:53:15]: Name and address please. Paula Surral, five two three Gables Court, McDonough. Okay. Good evening. Evening. City uh city council members, Mr. Alexander. [0:53:16, 0:53:30]: And Mr. Mayor Ford. Uh thank you for inviting myself as well as my neighbors and friends within my community to express mine as well as the community's concern regarding the construction of this warehouse. [0:53:32, 0:53:36]: Unbeknownst to the community, we were not aware that this was happening. [0:53:37, 0:53:40]: Someone had already thanked Mr. Alexander. Thank you. [0:53:40, 0:53:42]: For bringing that to our attention. [0:53:44, 0:53:44]: Uh [0:53:45, 0:53:49]: We were not aware that this was planned ten years ago. I was totally shocked. [0:53:50, 0:53:57]: To find out that it was planned ten years ago. I'm emotional because I've been in my community for twenty, twenty years. [0:54:03, 0:54:04]: I've invested in my home. [0:54:05, 0:54:06]: And I don't wanna see [0:54:07, 0:54:09]: My property value go down. [0:54:10, 0:54:11]: So [0:54:11, 0:54:13]: If they build this warehouse. [0:54:14, 0:54:16]: No one's gonna want to buy our homes. [0:54:17, 0:54:19]: Because no one wants to live across from a warehouse. [0:54:21, 0:54:25]: So I'm begging you to do what is right to do for the community. [0:54:25, 0:54:27]: And don't allow this to happen. [0:54:27, 0:54:30]: We were not aware this had noun this was gonna happen. [0:54:31, 0:54:33]: I would have moved ten years ago. [0:54:34, 0:54:35]: But I I I can't. [0:54:35, 0:54:37]: So I'm here now. [0:54:37, 0:54:39]: Speaking on behalf of the community. [0:54:39, 0:54:41]: To please put a stop to this. [0:54:42, 0:54:43]: Thank you. Thank you. [0:54:50, 0:54:56]: Let me please remind everybody when you make your comments, please address uh me as the mayor. Thank you. Ms. Howard, go ahead. [0:54:57, 0:54:59]: Uh Mayor Aubrey Kikiwi. [0:55:08, 0:55:28]: Name and address, please, ma'am. Aubrey Kikivi, 80 Canler Road, Southern Grace Hospice. Um, I'm not gonna bore you with facts, as I have several times and in many emails before. Um, I would like to talk about legalities. On March 14th, 2022, this council adopted the UDC that allows six exemptions. [0:55:28, 0:55:28]: Yeah. [0:55:30, 0:55:42]: The six exemptions are buildings or structures the legally under construction on the effective date of the UDC. 175 Canler Road was not being built or constructed on March 14th. [0:55:43, 0:55:47]: Buildings are structures for which a land a building permit has been issued. [0:55:47, 0:55:49]: Of the effective data of this UDC. [0:55:49, 0:55:53]: A building permit was not issued on March fourteenth, twenty twenty two. [0:55:53, 0:56:02]: A project whose plan was approved prior to the effective date of this UDC, there was no plan approved prior to March 14, 2022. [0:56:03, 0:56:17]: The proposed our actual use of property does not does not pertain to this matter. Applications for building permits, which were legally submitted with completed application fees paid prior to the adoption of this UDC. [0:56:17, 0:56:30]: Again, the fees were not paid, building permits not submitted, and zoning requests were not, nothing was legally submitted prior to March 14, 2022. And the last is exempt also, it's pertaining to the zoning requests that were denied. [0:56:31, 0:56:32]: I've gone through [0:56:32, 0:56:52]: 18 months of dates with y'all. I'm not gonna go through that again. I'm not I'm not I've sent emails and I've sat before this council and listed out every single date. All all I I'm gonna just list five things. May 26th, Miss Carter emails me stating that there have been no permits issued for this property and that the project is [0:56:52, 0:56:57]: [3417.5, 3426.8]: June tenth, one hundred seventy five Candler Road closed to Blackstone Candler development. June tenth, twenty twenty two, an actual building permit was submitted. [0:57:07, 0:57:15]: June twenty-seventh, the application to release the property from a conservation was approved due to the death of Mr. Daly in two thousand and seven. [0:57:18, 0:57:30]: On August 18th, SafeBuilt reviewed and approved the site plans for code compliance. On August 31st, an LDP was issued to Hospitality Financial Group. [0:57:30, 0:57:38]: The applicant who first applied for the permit that was denied by this council in January of 2022. [0:57:39, 0:57:41]: They were issued in LDP in error. [0:57:42, 0:58:02]: On October 17th, per Henry County DPH, there were no files of soil reports, septic construction permit applications, or septic construction permits issued by this office, which means that an entire application could not be submitted to our community development department in whole without even a soil report or a septic construction permit. [0:58:02, 0:58:03]: applied for. [0:58:04, 0:58:10]: Therefore I am asking for our council to review one thing, if I can finish. [0:58:11, 0:58:20]: Council, you want to give her an extra time? I do. I think it's um very important. Okay. I got you and Ms. and Mayor Pro okay. Well go ahead, ma'am. You've got some extra time. We've got three ones. One thing. [0:58:21, 0:58:34]: Page 47 of the UDC that this council adopted March 14, 2022, requires that light industrial maximum lot coverage, including the parking lot, is 50%. The plans submitted [0:58:35, 0:58:36]: That were approved. [0:58:37, 0:58:57]: In August. They were approved August 18th, and then by by Chief Wells on September 8th. Um, do not include a 80 it includes an 81% lot coverage minimum, not a 50% lot coverage. All I'm asking is that you please review the [0:58:57, 0:59:17]: legalities of this vesting rights and um the whether or not this property was truly grandfathered illegally as it does not appear based off of open records requests that it was. There's no engineering report until June 10th, 2022. The plans were not submitted. [0:59:17, 0:59:37]: until May 3rd, 2022. Mr. Knight sent an email in April saying that he was waiting on Henry County's depart Henry County DOT's approval. So how can we have approved plans or submitted plans without the DOT's approval for what's what they're gonna do to the road? There's I've I've emailed all of this to you, I've gone, I've I've [0:59:37, 0:59:37]: I've [0:59:38, 0:59:58]: gone back and forth respectfully and all I ask is that the board take into consideration the legalities not only of the impacts it will make to the residents and the one business on this street, but that the the legalities of whether or not this can really happen, because it does not appear that it's in line with the UDC that this [0:59:58, 1:00:00]: Council adopted. [1:00:00, 1:00:02]: Okay. Thank you. [1:00:14, 1:00:16]: Mayor. Yes, ma'am. Linda Shaw. [1:00:27, 1:00:29]: Name and address, please. [1:00:29, 1:00:49]: My name is Linda Shaw. I'm at 535 Gables Court, McDonough, Georgia, 30253. Good evening, Mr. Mayor, Councilman, specifically, Mr. Alexander. And I'm just here to reiterate what everyone has said uh for the last 10 minutes or so. [1:00:49, 1:00:55]: Which is we weren't aware of this uh warehouse space being built. [1:00:56, 1:01:13]: That we haven't been provided with any information or an opportunity to say yes, we agree that it should be there or no, we should not. As far as we knew, our area was a residential area, and now we're being bombarded with this commercial property. [1:01:13, 1:01:15]: That's going to devalue our property. [1:01:15, 1:01:17]: And also [1:01:17, 1:01:18]: Uh create [1:01:19, 1:01:39]: Significant amounts of traffic. We already have the issue with the railroad, and we thought that the better use of money in construction would have been to provide an overpass over the railroad, but that's another story. But uh if we're going to build anything, that's what should be built. [1:01:38, 1:01:55]: not a warehouse. So any opportunity that we have to at least uh vote on it, because I assure you if we vote on it, you'll see that all the residents are against it, specifically because it's just going to devalue the property. [1:01:55, 1:02:15]: And if there's any way that we can do that, and it sounds like the the uh owners of the warehouse have not done their proper due diligence to uh submit that they have the legal right to actually build there in the first place. We'd like to see some evidence of that. [1:02:15, 1:02:25]: provided to the community and we'd like to see basically that if they have not provided that evidence, then that warehouse should not be built. That's [1:02:35, 1:02:38]: Mayor. Yes, Mayor. Katie Wilhelm. [1:02:41, 1:02:52]: Mayor. Yes, sir. If I could, I would like to point out these people are Stockbridge residents, even though they have McDonough addresses for the most part. Okay, good deal. Understand. Name and address, please, ma'am. [1:02:53, 1:03:06]: Katie Wilhelm, two thirty-nine Candler Road, McDonough, Georgia, three oh two five three. Okay. Mr. Mayor and the Council, thank you all for the opportunity to speak. Um again, speaking on uh in [1:03:06, 1:03:08]: With everyone else that's already spoken. [1:03:08, 1:03:13]: Um as the adjacent property to the warehouse being built. [1:03:14, 1:03:34]: My family and I are newer residents to Henry County. We bought the farm that is closely adjacent on Canler Road. I have two young children. We recently invested in Henry County because we wanted to raise our kids in Henry County. We moved from north of Atlanta to do that down here. [1:03:34, 1:03:47]: wanted to give them space, acreage, quiet, everything that this know-through traffic land and road bought us. Shortly after that, all of that changed. [1:03:48, 1:03:50]: Our property's already been deeply impacted. [1:03:51, 1:03:52]: by the construction um [1:03:53, 1:03:56]: The initial construction that's already happened in the deforestation. [1:03:57, 1:04:03]: has they've started to put a retention pond at the back of the property. It's broken three times when it's rained. [1:04:03, 1:04:14]: Uh diesel runoff, silt, everything else has run into our natural spring creek that is at the back of our property, that throws off a natural water table, and a number of other. [1:04:14, 1:04:20]: EPA hazards to the wildlife, to just our kids playing in it. Um [1:04:20, 1:04:22]: Just deeply affecting what could be. [1:04:23, 1:04:27]: other habitats that are animals now being pushed into the land that they no longer have. [1:04:28, 1:04:31]: Um my family has had bats in our house that got we've been [1:04:31, 1:04:34]: After having them removed we were told [1:04:34, 1:04:40]: Likely was due directly to the deforestation. Again, they're losing their habitat. They needed somewhere to go when it got cold. [1:04:40, 1:04:42]: They found our house. Um [1:04:43, 1:04:43]: Вів [1:04:44, 1:04:50]: Day in and day out, we're doing children's drop offs. We're taking our kids on the street. Our kids want to play and ride their bikes. [1:04:51, 1:04:55]: Та род із нот драйваво анімор бетні а пропарті і [1:04:55, 1:04:56]: Jodico. [1:04:57, 1:05:06]: You can't get down it in a straight line anymore. The construction equipment, 18 wheelers that are already traveling up and down it, we've been assured that because the road [1:05:06, 1:05:07]: Is [1:05:07, 1:05:10]: Stockbridge, City Stockbridge on one side, Teneri County on the other. [1:05:11, 1:05:17]: That they will not have access to eighteen wheelers driving through the through the entire road. They'll only be able to enter and exit through one side. [1:05:18, 1:05:19]: There's no way you're stopping that. [1:05:19, 1:05:25]: without a gate, without something else, it's already happening. The road is already a single lane, you've heard it already. I'm not [1:05:25, 1:05:27]: Telling y'all anything new at this point. [1:05:28, 1:05:36]: It's and if the road can't be kept up while the construction's happening, I don't know how our family's gonna and the other families on the street are gonna drive up and down it every day. [1:05:37, 1:05:38]: So if it's [1:05:38, 1:05:50]: If it's not able to be stopped, then we need to know what action is being taken to again make the area habitable and continue to be habitable and grow because that's why we came down here in the first place. [1:05:50, 1:05:52]: Okay, thank you. Appreciate it. [1:06:00, 1:06:03]: Mayor. Yes, ma'am. Danita Minnes. [1:06:11, 1:06:12]: Name and address, please. [1:06:13, 1:06:21]: Danita Minnis, 2475, Walter Way, Stockbridge, Georgia. I am here today to represent North Bridge Crossing Community. [1:06:22, 1:06:28]: And I am uh the president of the HOA of the board of directors, and I did bring five other community members with me. [1:06:28, 1:06:29]: Okay. [1:06:30, 1:06:31]: To Mr. Mayor. [1:06:32, 1:06:33]: The other council members. [1:06:34, 1:06:48]: Um first I wanted to say thank you to um Councilmember Alexander. We had uh been complaining for at least two years because at the corner of Walter Way and Davidson Parkway. [1:06:49, 1:06:56]: It was co a complete dump site. People were bringing trash, you know, furniture, toilets, whatever they could and was dumping it. [1:06:57, 1:06:58]: On that um lot. [1:06:59, 1:07:06]: And so to this date, they have fenced it out and cleaned it out. And I do we really appreciate that. So thanks for that. [1:07:07, 1:07:20]: Um the issue that we're having though is parking violations. Even though our management company, PMI Cornerstone, issues citations, we still need assistance from code enforcement. [1:07:20, 1:07:31]: on three things. Number one, ongoing patrol for overnight parking on the street and on the grass. Number two, commercial vehicles being parked in the community. [1:07:32, 1:07:43]: And number three, the drive time trucks speeding and wearing down the community speed bumps as well as throwing trash out the windows as they drive through our community. [1:07:44, 1:07:49]: We don't know if Department of Tran uh Transportation can address the worn out speed bumps. [1:07:49, 1:08:06]: um and add additional speed bumps throughout our neighborhood, but we do have children who live in our community and some of them have come very close to being hit because people are speeding right over the speed bumps in some areas. And in some areas we don't have any speed bumps at all. [1:08:07, 1:08:15]: The next issue we're having is the storm drain at the corner of Armitage Way in Townsend B. It was damaged by a [1:08:15, 1:08:28]: Um truck. One of our community members, Mr. Juan Martin, he's here today. He witnessed the paving contractor damaging it by their paving equipment. When he striked when he struck it. [1:08:28, 1:08:36]: And when the road resurfacing was being done back in April, um April 18th to April 22nd of 2022. [1:08:36, 1:08:42]: The city came out and placed traffic cones around the drain, but no repairs have been done. [1:08:42, 1:08:50]: The paving contractors were hired by the city of Stockbridge, and I did bring some pictures just so you could see what it looks like. [1:08:52, 1:08:58]: It looks pretty bad and it is a a safety concern for our residents in the community. [1:08:59, 1:09:02]: And the last thing I had was um [1:09:02, 1:09:20]: Drive time again really is their their trucks are you know because they're big trucks they're damaging our streets and I know that there is no other way for them to get there other than through our community but I was just hoping that you guys would at least say something to them about it. All right, thank you very much. Thank you. [1:09:25, 1:09:36]: City manager took note of that, I'm pretty sure. So that's code enforcement and the police for overnight parking and also public works are involved in that particular situation and resolved. Madam Clerk, please. [1:09:37, 1:09:41]: Mayor. Mr. Charles Marshall. Ms. Marshall. [1:09:42, 1:09:43]: Yeah yeah. [1:09:49, 1:09:51]: Name and address, please. [1:09:51, 1:09:54]: Charles Marshall one hundred forty Somerset Hills. [1:09:55, 1:10:04]: Uh Mayor Ford and uh Stockbridge City Council members, my name is Charles Marshall. I live at 140 Somerset Hills and unincorporated Henry County. [1:10:04, 1:10:08]: near the Stockbridge city boundaries, which I hope to annex my property. [1:10:08, 1:10:12]: And to very soon to become a more active member of this city. [1:10:12, 1:10:21]: My comments tonight are in opposition to the proposed commercial structure, I think it's been earlier referred to as a warehouse, to be built near the intersection of Jodeco and Candler Road. [1:10:23, 1:10:29]: I speak as a community member with no correlation to any organization or governmental institution. [1:10:29, 1:10:34]: I oppose the construction of this structure for the following reasons. [1:10:34, 1:10:36]: It will disrupt traffic flow. [1:10:37, 1:10:41]: On the now two lane road of Jodico Road and the narrow road of Camler. [1:10:42, 1:10:44]: causing, in my opinion, a significant traffic jam. [1:10:45, 1:10:52]: or significant traffic jams and possibly accidents due to the extra truck traffic associated with this business. [1:10:52, 1:10:58]: It would also distress the livelihoods and possible property values of surrounding neighborhoods in the area. [1:10:59, 1:11:02]: It would disrupt and oppress traffic flow. [1:11:02, 1:11:04]: Of the patrons to the businesses. [1:11:04, 1:11:09]: Churches and community centers like Henry County Shrine Club, Southern Grace Hospital. [1:11:09, 1:11:14]: And the Henry Baptist Church, all of which are in the immediate vicinity. [1:11:14, 1:11:17]: And all of which serve our broader community within the area. [1:11:18, 1:11:31]: With the construction site of this business being close to the railroad crossing, as mentioned earlier in a previous presentation on Jodoko Road, I foresee a major disruption, becoming even worse once this business becomes operational. [1:11:31, 1:11:37]: I've been told that previous zoning may allow the construction of this business to occur. [1:11:38, 1:11:45]: I only ask that you use whatever authorities you have to delay the construction of this business until a more in-depth study. [1:11:45, 1:11:52]: can be done regarding regarding the negative impacts to the communities in the area. I thank you for your time and consideration. Thank you, sir. [1:12:02, 1:12:06]: Mayor. Yes, ma'am. Final comment is Nelson Rodacia. [1:12:11, 1:12:12]: Name and address, please. [1:12:12, 1:12:15]: Mayor, uh eight four one, Callwell. [1:12:16, 1:12:35]: Uh Mayor, um the reason I'm here is to oppose the uh construction of the proposed warehouse. This is uh seems to be a hostile takeover not only of the community, it's causing air and noise pollution, it's gonna have a road impact, which is gonna impact the uh [1:12:35, 1:12:37]: uh the city and [1:12:37, 1:12:44]: uh on on us is gonna cause an irreversible negative impact on our community and at least [1:12:45, 1:12:47]: two thousand residents or more. [1:12:47, 1:13:07]: Um Jericho wrote um when we moved down here nineteen years ago, um looking for a orderly, planned, and organized community. We liked the way that Henry County was doing that development. Uh we moved here to raise our [1:13:07, 1:13:23]: kids to go to uh good schools and to have peace. Uh Jericho used to have trees on both sides. So um we have seen our share of development, or organized development, but this is not it. [1:13:24, 1:13:44]: The uh the proposed uh warehouse, it it is immediate to a hospice facility where the most fragile of our citizens are being taken care of right now. It's immediate to one of the biggest uh church in the community, just meters away. The [1:13:44, 1:14:04]: uh railroad crossing is being resurfaced basically yearly because the normal traffic makes the crossing too s to sunk and the railroads to get uh out of alignment and it needs to be resurfaced at least every year or every year and a half. This is just with [1:14:04, 1:14:24]: Normal traffic. Imagine if you put 18 wheelers go over that crossing every day at all times. And by last, we need more parks, more bike trails, more green areas, more leisure uh spots where we can take our families. The permissions necessary for this kind of [1:14:24, 1:14:44]: of development needs to be transparent, clear in and in accordance to to the legal uh ways of doing this. Uh apparently the proposed development is far from that. Um I uh we have heard um how another lady um did a [1:14:44, 1:14:57]: uh date by date counting on how this uh permiss permission has been uh granted and it doesn't appear to to have followed what the uh law requires. Thank you very much for your attention. [1:15:04, 1:15:24]: Ladies and gentlemen, I appreciate all your comments. We've taken note on that, and everything's been recorded, so we'll do some follow-ups. On that note, we'll go to a ceremonial piece of the meeting. And actually, uh, a couple proclamations were read earlier starting at 5:30. We did a proclamation with Gordon State College. They have what you call a club football team, and they have been national champions. [1:15:24, 1:15:26]: Yeah. [1:15:27, 1:15:29]: And uh two тан twenty two. [1:15:29, 1:15:38]: And so the proclamation was given to the Dr. Uh Kurt Nooks, the president of the college, along with the uh coach and football members in some of the administration earlier this evening. [1:15:38, 1:15:58]: And they're looking for a three peat. Just like Georgia's looking for a three peat, we're looking for a three-peat. So we wanted to honor them and and acknowledge their their uh their championship and they beat uh believe it was Ohio State and his club uh club football championship there. And I believe the score is thirty four seventeen. But anyway, we want to recognize them. We also did a proclamation to uh for [1:15:58, 1:16:18]: uh African American Month Black History Month here in the city of Stockbridge as well. And some added comments from Councilman Thomas in reference to the activity is coming up on the 25th of February to honor the Divine Nine and all the things that the Divine Nine, these are fraternity swordes in the in the black community and all [1:16:18, 1:16:38]: things that they do have done for Henry County and the surrounding area. And just so happens in this case, uh we need to acknowledge the fact that uh Ms. Gantt is a member of Divine Nine and Alpha Kappa Alpha Sority Incorporated. And I'm also a member of Divine Nine and Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity Incorporated. And so we look forward to joining our fraternity soorities on the 25th for this recognition for [1:16:38, 1:16:58]: for the city's putting on that but Mr. Thomas has a lead on that. And then also swore in uh two members to our youth council administration uh uh screw me uh unit youth council advisory committee Ms. Williams and Mr Thomas uh were sworn in earlier this evening and for the downtown development authority and Mr. Robert Anderson was also sworn in. [1:16:58, 1:17:17]: And so we look forward to them serving in their capacities as well as uh look forward to any of the citizens of the city of Stockbridge that want to serve on our many communities uh committees and serve in volunteer capacity. On that note, uh we've added to the amended agenda to go into executive session. So council, I need a motion to go in executive session, please. [1:17:17, 1:17:18]: Mayor. Yes, Mayor. [1:17:19, 1:17:23]: I move that we go into executive session for real estate personnel and litigation. Okay, is there a second? [1:17:24, 1:17:35]: Uh Miss I saw Miss uh Mayor Potem Barber's hand is a second, all in favor, please indicate. Ladies and gentlemen, stand by and we're gonna go in executive session. We'll be back and to report out any other that discussion. Thank you. [1:18:33, 1:18:34]: Madam Clerk, you set. [1:19:27, 1:19:40]: All right, council. I uh need a motion to end our executive session, please. So moved. Mr Mr. Thomas, that uh Miss Barber seconds that all in flavor please all in favor please indicate. [1:19:41, 1:19:42]: Okay. [1:19:43, 1:20:03]: All in favor, please indicate, make sure I got okay, we got everybody? Five. Okay, good deal. All right, now I need motion to reconvene or council meeting, please. So move. Okay, council uh Mayor Pro Tem. Mayor Pro Tem, uh Barber, and uh and uh so m uh second to Miss Gantt. Okay. All in favor, please indicate. [1:20:03, 1:20:04]: Yeah. [1:20:04, 1:20:23]: All right, unanimous decision. All right, on that note. Well, we had an executive session, had several different topics. Um there's one uh uh topic that we want to address, a topic that uh came up in consistently in our public comments and our attorney, um Mr. Quinton Washington, will uh make a response to that and then we'll move on with our meeting. [1:20:28, 1:20:36]: Yes, I'm Mayor Ford and Council. After legal review, the project at 175 candle will go under review under the new unified development code. [1:20:37, 1:20:38]: Okay. [1:20:38, 1:20:39]: Thank you, sir. Appreciate that. [1:20:39, 1:20:51]: On that note, we will now continue to move on with a presentation. Presentation of the Amphitheater Sound Study results and recommendation presented by Mr. Gardner and Heaver Hubble of TSW. Please. [1:20:55, 1:21:08]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. We have um uh Heather Hubble and Shimbi McCreary um who are working to have worked to put the sound study together for the amphitheater. So I'd like to introduce them and have them do a presentation before you. [1:21:09, 1:21:11]: Okay, thank you. And welcome. [1:21:17, 1:21:18]: Password. [1:21:28, 1:21:28]: Mm. [1:22:12, 1:22:15]: Uh how do I get this full screen? [1:22:16, 1:22:21]: Oh, it looks like it's up now. It's good. So I think this is just what we're seeing here. [1:22:23, 1:22:43]: All right. Um good evening. Good evening to you, Heather. How are you? All right. Um Heather Hubble, TSW uh Design Consultant for the City and Architect. Um in July of uh 2022, uh the city asked us to conduct a sound study on the amphitheater, uh, and we're here to report out on that. [1:22:43, 1:22:48]: Um behind me as introduced is um Shimbi. [1:22:49, 1:22:50]: McCree? [1:22:50, 1:23:00]: McCreary, thank you. Um, who is a uh acoustical designer uh and um he's going to walk us through the presentation we have tonight. [1:23:01, 1:23:02]: Welcome, sir. [1:23:02, 1:23:22]: Thank you. Um Mr. Mayor and Council. Um so uh we were hired by the city to conduct a sound study of the amphitheater that has recently been constructed. Um city was receiving a f a number of complaints from residents about the noise that was escaping from uh show. [1:23:22, 1:23:42]: And sound checks that were happening at the amphitheater. And so we were asked to conduct this study to monitor the noise, making it out of the amphitheater and reaching adjacent residential properties. So following that study, uh, we were asked to provide some recommendations that could help to. [1:23:42, 1:23:44]: Address those complaints. [1:23:46, 1:24:06]: Uh together with the city, we decided that before conducting the study, it'd be good to send out a survey asking for uh resident feedback to determine who uh was filing the complaints and the degree of the problem and to get an idea of where these uh which residents were being most affected by the sound. [1:24:06, 1:24:13]: out 50 mailers and uh 13 came back. Of the 13 that came back, seven reported a disturbance. [1:24:13, 1:24:33]: Uh and six reported no disturbance. All these people were aware of sound coming from the amphitheater, but again, only seven reported uh being disturbed by that sound. Three of those lived within a thousand feet of the stage, and four were actually uh quite further away, uh more than a thousand feet from the amphitheater. [1:24:33, 1:24:45]: Of the six that reported no disturbance, one uh lived within the vicinity of the amphitheater, that is to say uh a thousand feet or less from the stage, and five lived outside of that vicinity. [1:24:48, 1:25:08]: Uh for the measurement, uh, we attended a concert on August 20th, and uh the map here shows 15, each circle represents a measurement location. So uh during the concert, while the sound's kind of going at full level, we took a measurement at each of these locations, and each measurement consisted of a five-minute [1:25:08, 1:25:28]: Continuous measurement intended to capture the level average over that sound period. The levels were converted to a weighted sound levels. This is per the city ordinance. It's a way of calibrating the sound to account for how humans hear low frequencies. [1:25:28, 1:25:29]: Um [1:25:30, 1:25:38]: And then uh yeah, so the levels were recorded at each of these locations uh during the concert. [1:25:41, 1:26:01]: This shows a table of the sound levels that were recorded. Each measurement number has a kind of average sound level that was recorded during its corresponding period. From this, we've determined that the loudest kind of that the places with the most exposure were directly to the north of the site and the place [1:26:01, 1:26:06]: [5166.7, 5178.3]: Per the ordinance, we were also required to record uh ambient levels when a sound was not happening, and that's the second column, sorry, the third column in this table here that shows uh [1:26:18, 1:26:38]: Just I came back uh the following Monday and this was around ten o'clock in the morning and just kind of recording ambient traffic noise. Um and so this provides a comparison of you know what's typically going on and how much a sound, uh a concert contributes to the levels. [1:26:38, 1:26:40]: [5204.4, 5216.5]: Uh from the findings we determined that uh the sound is largely escaping through some of the open openings in the hard surfaces that comprise the amphitheater shell. [1:26:56, 1:27:16]: And they're going out the back of the site, and that's how they're reaching uh these residences immediately adjacent to the site. Again, the levels are loudest along the properties. Um I apologize. This this street here, do you recall the the the street that's directly to the north? Is that correct? [1:27:16, 1:27:17]: Right. [1:27:20, 1:27:27]: Um yeah, I apologize. I don't r recall the the specific names of the streets that are adjacent to the site. Are you talking about East Atlanta? [1:27:27, 1:27:36]: No no no it's Is it um it's I know Lee Street Yeah, I know Lee is one and then the this this one here that's in the north south. [1:27:36, 1:27:45]: So it's the properties um to the top of page on your map, um, across the retention pond and the um the parking lot. [1:27:46, 1:27:49]: Brian, thank you. Thank you. [1:27:53, 1:28:13]: And so based on determining how the sound was getting off the site and which properties were most affected, uh we provided a recommendation for a sound blocking curtain that could be hung from the structure of the amphitheater shell and would essentially enclose the backside, um, cutting off those gaps. [1:28:16, 1:28:21]: And uh this was provided to the city. Um anything else? [1:28:23, 1:28:40]: Yes, so um so the city's not required to do anything, but if you want to improve what these residents are experiencing, this is the best solution uh to kind of block that sound that is reaching those northern properties. [1:28:40, 1:28:54]: Okay, so otherwise let me ask a question. Otherwise, if I'm standing on the stage, you're talking about the the side on the right hand side as I stand and look out into the audience. You're talking about the right hand side, having some type of big curtain hanging down f from the right hand side. [1:28:54, 1:29:14]: Um it well it's more than that. It's on three s it would be on three sides of the back of stage. Uh if you look at the diagrams on the screen, um you'll see a blue line along right behind the kind of backdrop wall. So there's a blue line where we would actually have a curtain kind of at the top of that hard wall. [1:29:14, 1:29:26]: And then on the sides where you have the working wings, uh you'll see those red lines, and those are two curtains on each side. Uh these curtains would um [1:29:27, 1:29:47]: be in the way of performances, moving stage pieces on and off of the stage, so they would have to be movable curtains. They would have to be on a track. And this is a specialty piece of drapery. You know, it has to be rated for the exterior. It is a [1:29:47, 1:29:54]: Sound absorbing device. So it's not something that you can just go pick up. It would have to be custom made. [1:29:54, 1:30:01]: Does that help answer your question? That helps some, yes, thank you. [1:30:01, 1:30:15]: Okay, uh Mr. Blount, go ahead please. I have a question. When we first initially started doing a design of the amphitheater and these sound mitigating um pieces came up and we talked about um how would we do that. [1:30:16, 1:30:32]: Nothing was ever discussed to us about a curtains. What was discussed to us was walls, bushes, trees, all of these things. None that we do a sound uh none that we do a uh a study. [1:30:33, 1:30:35]: Pra after [1:30:35, 1:30:36]: We've built it. [1:30:37, 1:30:48]: And what what's brought back to us is a sound blocking curtain that could be impeding uh for moving equipment around. But none of this was discussed during the building of the amphitheater. [1:30:48, 1:30:55]: Um yes, the the uh discussions that occurred were actually discussions uh [1:30:55, 1:31:08]: uh suggestions that were made in general. Um we did look at those options uh and Shimbi can talk about each of those. Um neither uh wall at that great of a distance um [1:31:08, 1:31:23]: would solve the sound issue uh when it is so far back from the amphitheater. Um and I I can let Shimbi talk about it, the sound will just float over top. But but but let all due respect, let me say this. [1:31:24, 1:31:26]: It's now we can say that now. [1:31:27, 1:31:31]: But during the process of building this amphitheater that you all designed. [1:31:33, 1:31:41]: None of this type of mitigating of sound was ever discussed. And that's and that's what's kind of throwing me because [1:31:42, 1:31:44]: А лота там звоню. [1:31:44, 1:31:46]: start to build anything. [1:31:47, 1:31:58]: Don't give me the bells and whistles and make it sound good without telling me what the b w what the downfall would be if we don't do it. Because when we was talked about these beautiful trees, this beautiful fish, all of this stuff. [1:31:58, 1:32:02]: None of it had anything to do with any curtains. Now we're saying [1:32:02, 1:32:06]: That the beautiful things that we was told are not gonna be sufficient. [1:32:06, 1:32:15]: that now we've brought sound blocking curtains. I don't think that that's that's a fair that's bit that's fair to this council and we don't build ampathyators you all do. [1:32:16, 1:32:20]: I I appreciate that comment. Um, with all due respect, uh [1:32:21, 1:32:25]: We were asked to come with a recommendation to improve the existing sound. [1:32:25, 1:32:42]: Um this council can choose not to do anything and still be acceptable. But but to let me say this, all due respect. Let me say this. Because you said all due respect. Let me say this. Sorry, sir. If if you but let me say this. My apologies. You just said if this council choose not to do anything [1:32:43, 1:32:53]: But I'm trying to tell you what was brought to this council was none of this. We choose we chose to do something that was what you all brought us in the beginning, all due respect. [1:32:53, 1:33:13]: Um we we did not suggest a wall. Okay. Uh no no no. Did you suggest did you suggest trees? Okay, hold hold on hold on one second. That was something that we talked about as a potential possibility, yes. The trees were a potential possibility. Let me interrupt for a second, please. Um I've been been informed that that there is a certain there's certain type of um access. [1:33:13, 1:33:28]: that we're dealing with right now. So we're it's probably best to only receive the briefing and and and not ask any specific questions because of some potential action that we're we're we're dealing with as a city. [1:33:29, 1:33:48]: And Mayor the then this should have been removed from the agenda. Well well what happened is that I I just got informed of of this in this aspect. So I'm trying to take on some um some advice proper advice here at this point to keep from uh one di digging a bigger hole, basically. And I would ask this council to remove it from the agenda because if I can't discuss [1:33:48, 1:33:55]: I'm not hired by them. I'm hired by the c I'm voted in by the city. So we can't discuss it, then it needs to be removed from the agenda. [1:33:56, 1:33:59]: My apologies. I did not know um of that action. [1:34:00, 1:34:03]: Yeah. Yes, sir. Um [1:34:03, 1:34:11]: Could you have Mr. Gardner to t to come forward for Mr Gardner. And probably I will say and Quentin as well. Yes. Probably come forward here. Um [1:34:25, 1:34:26]: Stand by, please. [1:34:58, 1:35:04]: Mayor, I have a question when we get germane to what stand by please. Um [1:35:07, 1:35:08]: Mr. Washington? [1:35:09, 1:35:11]: Mr. Mayor, we may need to [1:35:11, 1:35:13]: I think we may need to discuss this in executive session. [1:35:13, 1:35:14]: Okay. [1:35:16, 1:35:16]: All right. [1:35:18, 1:35:38]: And that means th otherwise the entire topic itself is what you're getting at. Is that correct? Yes. With with these with these two individuals here? Yes. Okay. I got it. All right. So based on that legal advice then um I will say to you that uh they'd like to have a motion to remove this topic. [1:35:38, 1:35:46]: Now for open session at this time and then have further discussion in the second session to have this briefing and have this discussion. [1:35:48, 1:35:48]: Yes, sir. [1:35:51, 1:35:55]: of that motion to um discuss this in next. [1:35:56, 1:36:01]: All right. Is there a second there motion? I second. Miss uh Miss uh Gantt second that all in favor please indicate. [1:36:04, 1:36:20]: Okay, three. All posed? Abstain? I don't really think it's Okay, I got three passed. What which what you what you desire, sir? I'm not bolding it doesn't really matter. Okay. And you you abstain too, Miss Ms. Uh Mayor Protestant? Okay, so it's 302. Okay, we'll have to talk about this further in the second session. Motion passed. [1:36:21, 1:36:21]: Okay. [1:36:23, 1:36:31]: Thank you. Is is that executive session to be tonight? Well we'll do it tonight. We'll ha we'll have another executive session tonight. Okay. To do it tonight since you're here before us at this point. [1:36:33, 1:36:40]: All right, on that note then um we have a tax allocation district update. Mr. Gardner, please. [1:36:46, 1:36:52]: Good night, Mayor Council. Very quickly to update you guys as to where we are with the tax allocation district. Uh tied [1:36:53, 1:36:55]: As you know, we adopted the TAD last December. [1:36:56, 1:37:00]: Um we then forwarded that information over to our [1:37:00, 1:37:05]: Uh Henry County Tax Assessor for the Chief Appraiser to Review and um recommend [1:37:05, 1:37:11]: The digests for twenty tw for twenty twenty two. That was done, that information. [1:37:11, 1:37:15]: Was sent over should have been sent over to the Department of Revenue. [1:37:15, 1:37:16]: Um two weeks ago. [1:37:17, 1:37:37]: Uh and from there, um our next schedule, we scheduled a meeting with the Board of Education, um, with the school superintendent, the finance director, and those folks. We met with them um for about two hours. Really good meeting. Um this is the first Todd in Henry County, so obviously they had a lot of questions, um, even the tax. [1:37:37, 1:37:47]: Office had a lot of questions because this is the first one in Henry County. So we've working work with them, give them all the information they needed. Um they're going to um [1:37:48, 1:38:08]: Digest that information. We gave them a couple of uh examples of the school boards and how school boards have actually addressed the TAD, whether it's through full use of their tax increment or some portion thereof based on the type of development that comes forward. And we were realistic with them that look, most of the area that we're we're suggesting. [1:38:08, 1:38:28]: For the Tad is the actual core of the downtown. So we don't see three and four bedroom homes because this would probably be one, two bedroom apartments that are part of a mixed-use development. You rarely see school to kids come from those type of developments. Um but where are those areas that are undeveloped that are part of the TAD and we have development opportunities. [1:38:28, 1:38:48]: There's an area for us to actually do a negotiation with them to make that happen. So they're taking all that information and running with it. We hopefully we'll be going next step with them. We'll be they'll call us to let us know that we're gonna schedule meeting before the actual Board of Education members, elected members, and therefore they'll give us an idea of what they're [1:38:48, 1:39:08]: gonna vote but that they'll let us know before then. Our next meeting is with Henry County Board of Commissioners, uh meeting with Sherry Matthews and the Chair Aurale and their finance and executive staff to do the very same thing, discuss with them the options of the TID, why the TAD is needed. And I will tell you one of the pure examples we use that I use in my [1:39:07, 1:39:21]: my discussions with the school superintendent was I asked one of our staff who was actually born and bred here in the city. Um, and I said, Hey, if I ask you to close your eyes today and remember downtown Stockbridge in nineteen eighty. [1:39:23, 1:39:24]: Then nineteen ninety. [1:39:25, 1:39:26]: Then in two thousand. [1:39:27, 1:39:28]: Two thousand ten. [1:39:29, 1:39:31]: And the only thing Nikki say was added was City Hall. [1:39:32, 1:39:33]: Yeah, ampathier. [1:39:33, 1:39:53]: Outside of that, no private development, no residential, no mixed use, any of that. And so that kind of hit the nail home with the superintendent is guess what? We could wait another 20 years and still see absolutely nothing. But if we we need this tide to actually change it. And my conversation was then was doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result, get you what you've been. [1:39:53, 1:40:13]: Been getting. So we're trying to do something different and expecting a different outcome. Uh, and so that'll be our discussions with the Henry County Board of Commissioners when we meet with them. And the reason why we need to have their increment is part of this because we're going to need it to entice private development. We have a lot of um public investment in the downtown now. We just need to spur some public. [1:40:13, 1:40:33]: investment. So that's where we are. Our meeting is coming up on the twenty seventh, twenty-seventh of this month with the county. And based on our conversations from there, we come back and give you guys another update as to what the next steps is moving forward with the Henry County Board of Commissioners. And that's my update so far on the time. All right council, any question from Mr. Gardner at all about the process [1:40:33, 1:40:43]: process of the TAD thus far. Anybody? Yeah go right please Mr. Blount. Mr. Garner with the w whatever tax digest be created with this, is Mr. Harrison bought with this? [1:40:44, 1:41:04]: From Mr. Harris is involved from the standpoint his office from certifying that the the numbers in the digest is exactly what it is. That information is then so we know that it's um let's say the district is thirty million dollars. Um they certified, his office certified that that is true. Once that's done. [1:41:04, 1:41:24]: And we send it to the state, state approves it. That set our base year as the tide for as twenty twenty two. So anything above that thirty million is used towards financing infrastructure improvements or development in the in the tide itself. So that process still is in the process, what you're saying. [1:41:23, 1:41:35]: Yeah. So we're we're pretty much done with hit with uh Michael's office, the chief tax appraiser. He's already gone through the process of reviewing it and sending forward it over to Department of Revenue. All right, thanks. Yes, sir. [1:41:37, 1:41:49]: Any other questions? Okay, Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. Mr. Gardner, you mentioned um that this will the TAD will be presented formally to the Board of Commissioners and the Board of Education. Do we have it scheduled yet? [1:41:50, 1:42:00]: Yeah, so we we've already met with the we've met with the superintendent and her staff. Uh we met with them staff to staff, we met with them uh for their approval. [1:42:00, 1:42:20]: No, just to go over the tide to talk to them about what the tide is, educate them. We give them a copy of the plan. Um, we give them copies of some other tides in the area in which the border education was involved, just to give them acclimated because this is their first time seeing this, and no one on their staff have any experience dealing with it. No one. But I know we need [1:42:20, 1:42:25]: So they will have to approve it at some point. [1:42:26, 1:42:36]: So so they they will they will review it and based on like discussions they have with some I think they're going to interview or talk to some other card of commit um education. [1:42:36, 1:42:40]: Um around the metro who've actually approved the TAD. [1:42:40, 1:43:00]: To get an idea as to where they should stand on this, whether it's gonna be a full use of the increment or a partial use of the increment. Um once they've determined that, they'll schedule, they'll have us come and talk before the um Board of Education Board of Education. Have a time frame as to when that will go. Um she told us to expect somewhere around one to two months. [1:43:00, 1:43:02]: Okay. Yes. Thank you. Mm-hmm. [1:43:03, 1:43:05]: Any other questions from Mr Gordon on the subject? [1:43:07, 1:43:15]: If not, then uh thank you, Mr. Garner. Appreciate that. Thank you. Old business is next says open government project. And I'm only gonna assume that that is uh [1:43:16, 1:43:21]: Okay, okay, that is Mr. Wiggins. Okay, thank you. And sir, please introduce yourself, uh [1:43:24, 1:43:36]: Hmm. Yeah, go ahead. Hello Mara, I'm Bryce Prosenski. I was previously presenting the OpenGov uh presentation last time. I got a slight haircut, so probably why yeah. That's why I didn't recognize you. Okay. Thank you very much. [1:43:37, 1:43:54]: Quick, please. Mayor and Council. Uh staff comes before you to ask Council consideration to approve the OpenGove budgeting and planning platform under the state Georgia contract nine nine nine nine nine-spd. [1:43:55, 1:44:00]: Dash T two zero one nine zero eight one four dash zero zero zero one. [1:44:01, 1:44:06]: For a three year term of a hundred and seventy three thousand seven hundred dollars and eight cents. [1:44:07, 1:44:12]: This term will be split up like year one will be like ninety two. [1:44:12, 1:44:14]: Thousand two hundred eighty eight [1:44:14, 1:44:16]: Dollars ninety four cents. Year two. [1:44:17, 1:44:21]: I'm sorry, it was year one. Year two would be forty thousand seven hundred and five [1:44:22, 1:44:29]: Dollars and fifty seven cents and year three will be forty thousand seven hundred and five dollars and fifty seven cents also. [1:44:29, 1:44:32]: And then at that time in year three we will come back [1:44:33, 1:44:35]: to uh [1:44:35, 1:44:37]: As for uh a renewal. [1:44:38, 1:44:41]: of uh extension of another three years. [1:44:41, 1:44:44]: Depending on how well this platform performs for us. [1:44:44, 1:44:58]: All right. Uh I have Bryce here to answer any questions. If any additional questions, I know we we we went through a presentation last time. I have Bryce here to answer any kind of question that you might need that you uh might want to get answered. [1:44:59, 1:45:06]: All right, questions council. Ms uh Mary Pro Tem, go ahead, please. Okay, you're asking us to approve a contract? Yes. [1:45:06, 1:45:13]: Did you provide the contract? The contract we it's been it was been loaded, but it was loaded late. We uh [1:45:13, 1:45:14]: Uh [1:45:14, 1:45:25]: Okay. Jeremy was able to uh go through we got this contract late, so but it is old business and we don't with you know Oh for the record, I won't approve anything. [1:45:25, 1:45:27]: Without seeing the supporting documents. [1:45:28, 1:45:33]: I heard year one um the contract was for how much, you said again? [1:45:34, 1:45:38]: Year one is ninety two thousand two hundred and eighty eight dollars and ninety four cents. [1:45:40, 1:45:47]: And I heard year two was forty thousand, year three was forty thousand. I don't have any support and documents, so I'm gonna abstain from voting on this. [1:45:48, 1:45:48]: That's all. [1:45:49, 1:45:54]: Any other questions at all? Council for these two gentlemen about to open Gov. [1:45:54, 1:45:55]: Project. [1:45:56, 1:45:59]: And I do understand that we can we can I can get all this um [1:46:00, 1:46:00]: To you. [1:46:01, 1:46:01]: Mm. [1:46:02, 1:46:08]: You'd much rather of course to have the supporting documents at the time that you're asking us to approve this. [1:46:08, 1:46:15]: This is the same issue I've been addressing for three years. You're asking me to approve a contract [1:46:15, 1:46:16]: But I don't have a contract. [1:46:17, 1:46:18]: I don't have it in front of me. [1:46:19, 1:46:23]: I'm just supposed to take your word. No, I won't you're not supposed to take my word, but I do understand. [1:46:24, 1:46:25]: I do understand. [1:46:25, 1:46:35]: Mayor Ford. Yeah, just sir, go ahead, please. Uh I'm I'm going to agree with Mayor Pro Tem. Uh one of my questions is funding source. [1:46:35, 1:46:37]: Um but at some point in time [1:46:38, 1:46:48]: You know, we talk about policies and procedures all the time. And and and we're held to make informative decisions. [1:46:49, 1:46:51]: But it is hard for us to do that. [1:46:52, 1:47:05]: When we do not have the information and have those week in advance to review, study, and even call you up and ask questions in advance. So [1:47:05, 1:47:19]: I don't know how for me, I don't know how we can go forward with this without having that information. So um my recommendation would be to to to table because as uh Mayor Pro Tem [1:47:20, 1:47:25]: I I I can't even vote in favor of this myself and I think again [1:47:25, 1:47:26]: Uh staff. [1:47:27, 1:47:30]: We have to get to that position where [1:47:30, 1:47:33]: If you do not have those supporting documents. [1:47:35, 1:47:37]: You take it off the agenda. [1:47:38, 1:47:40]: Don't bring it before council. [1:47:40, 1:47:42]: If those documents are not there. [1:47:42, 1:47:44]: We should have had'em a week ago. [1:47:44, 1:47:48]: So I think we got to get to that point. We got to go through these rough areas. [1:47:48, 1:47:53]: But that's but that's the message that we're sending and we've been saying this for years. [1:47:54, 1:47:56]: Take it off the agenda and no things happen. [1:47:57, 1:47:58]: But when those things happen. [1:47:58, 1:48:00]: It just can't come forward. [1:48:02, 1:48:14]: Because how can we make a decision? We can't. Why understand counsel? It's not like it's not that we trust what you say or not, but it just process and correct processing procedures. [1:48:15, 1:48:15]: And we have to get [1:48:16, 1:48:18]: staff to understand that if you [1:48:19, 1:48:24]: Y your desire for counsel to make an informed decision, then you have to understand [1:48:25, 1:48:26]: From the beginning. [1:48:26, 1:48:29]: Okay, we had problems, so we can't get the document. [1:48:30, 1:48:34]: Madam Clerk, we got to take this off the agenda because we don't have the document. Real simple and easy. [1:48:35, 1:48:53]: Understand. Well one of the ask at this time that we do table this and we bring it back on the twenty eighth. All right. Back it bring it back on the twenty eighth. And the representative would not have to make this trip. Right. Is exactly. All right. Go ahead, please. Motion to a table. Let's m move on. [1:48:54, 1:49:14]: Is there a second to motion? Ms. Ganttz, second offer, please indicate unanimous decision. Thank you, gentlemen. All right, what's next is new business. Council consideration to adopt a civility resolution and pledge to become a c city of civility. And I'm going to present this. And I in all actuality at the city's United Conference a couple weeks ago, the uh [1:49:13, 1:49:33]: Uh Mr. Larry Hansen brought this forward at one of our lunch of one of our meals about the initiative for a resolution and the fact that uh a new pledge that uh looking for all the cities, uh 537 cities to take on in reference to uh civility in this aspect. And there the resolution that is in your packet. [1:49:33, 1:49:53]: And once approved, everybody will sign this particular resolution. It has a pledge on it as well, but it also identifies nine pillars of civility. And these are be considerate of others' opinions, manage your emotions, emotions, that is. A silent voice is not always a weak voice. [1:49:53, 1:49:54]: Voice. [1:49:55, 1:49:55]: Be kind. [1:49:56, 1:49:57]: Actively listen. [1:49:58, 1:50:00]: Think about the impact. [1:50:01, 1:50:04]: of your actions in that aspect. Ask questions to learn. [1:50:05, 1:50:10]: Remember to acremen Q tip, which means uh quit taking it personal, [1:50:10, 1:50:30]: and have empathy. What this amounts to is is the representatives from the on the leadership of the n of the generals and municipal associations realized and seen and heard that across the the state of Georgia a lot of cities uh elected officials like ourselves, me included in this aspect, have have need to act a little more appropriately. And are [1:50:30, 1:50:43]: asking for us to take on this particular pledge and this resolution. And once it's approved or upon approved I should say, they'll get a copy of that and it'll be identified during our annual um conference since Savannah, the third week in June as well. [1:50:44, 1:51:04]: Civility Pledge. It says the way we govern ourselves is often as important as the positions we take. Our collective decisions will be better when differing views have had an opportunity to fully vet, be vetted, fully vetted and considered. All people have the right to be treated with respect, courtesy, and openness. [1:51:04, 1:51:11]: We value all input. We commit to conduct ourselves at all times with civility and courtesy to each other. [1:51:11, 1:51:23]: So this is part of the resolution. You have that in your book. If you all were at the United Cities Uh conference, you you saw probably a a little card that indicates all this. It's all in your packet. So [1:51:23, 1:51:43]: I'm uh discussing with you to bring it forward to you so we can um be part of this process and have a resolution and have everybody if it wants our point approval have everybody sign it and uh we can be a city of civility and continue to uh do the citizens' business. Is there a motion to accept this, please? Yes, ma'am. I move to adopt the civility resolution. [1:51:43, 1:51:53]: resolution and pledge to become a city of stability. Okay, good deal. From Airport Tim and I say. And to Miss Gantt, okay, if there's no further discussion, all favor, please indicate. [1:51:54, 1:51:56]: Unanimate season. Thank you very much, Council. [1:51:57, 1:52:17]: Okay, so public hearings were taken off the uh until further notice number eight nine ten. And so we'll go to item number eleven, City of Stockbridge Unified Development Code Text Amendment uh TX-2022-01 to allow for the use of computer and data processing services within a C3 heavy. [1:52:17, 1:52:28]: Commercial district as a permitted use and to update the other applicable references to this use throughout the unified development code. Ms. Carter, please. [1:52:28, 1:52:48]: Thank you, Mayor Council. Yes, the text amendment before you is one of our first since our UDC adoption in March of last year. This is in regards to computer and data processing centers, which we've gotten some interest in throughout the city and of course the county. [1:52:48, 1:53:08]: In particular centers, they transfer and convert raw data to machine readable form through a flow of data through the CPU and a memory of output devices. It's pretty much a room with servers, and you have some folks who are hired to manage those servers and to [1:53:08, 1:53:28]: To keep the flow of information going. What is being proposed is that we update the code or the UDC to allow for computer and data processing centers within the commercial, heavy commercial district, which is C3. Currently, they are only allowed in. [1:53:28, 1:53:48]: In industrial districts, but we do want to consider as new uses that are appropriate, staff believes, to a commercial district, that we allow certain uses to be brought before you all to make a decision. I do believe that it does meet the intent of the C3 zoning district. [1:53:48, 1:54:08]: District. We have a letter of support from the Development Authority, and I have Josh Finn here, who's the executive director for the Henry County Development Authority, if you have any questions for him. But this item went before the Planning Commission on January the 26th, and they recommend. [1:54:08, 1:54:12]: recommended approval for this updated change to the UDC. [1:54:13, 1:54:20]: Okay, thank you for that. Questions, Council for Ms. uh Carter. Sir. Go right in, please. Let's miss to have the development authority members come up. [1:54:34, 1:54:40]: Thank you, Breaker. Good evening, Mary. Good evening, Council. Good evening, Josh. How you doing? I'm doing good. Good sir. Introduce yourself. [1:54:40, 1:54:43]: Oh uh Josh Fennett, Executive Director of Henry County Development Authority. [1:54:44, 1:55:00]: I appreciate you all coming out tonight. Uh what I'd like to know is just give us a little nugget. Um certainly uh you you guys always looking to explore new opportunities and everything for us. Is there some bait on the end of this line? [1:55:01, 1:55:21]: Uh Councilman to answer your question, uh what brought this about uh as tasked by my board um was to you know look at the data center industry, look at what you know strengths, weaknesses, where we could put those, et cetera, in there. One of the things that we found um [1:55:21, 1:55:41]: was available inventory of sites that match with what current infrastructure is, working with our utility partners at Georgia Power, Georgia EMC and others who work in this realm. The challenge that we found was that most of the jurisdictions within the county only allow it, as Ms. Carter said, in the case of Stockbridge. [1:55:40, 1:56:00]: Is in M1 and M2. But looking at some of the heat maps, there are opportunities, I think in Stockbridge's case, where the infrastructure matches up nicely, but the zoning does not. So this does allow, you know, council. I know there's not an appetite for rezoning to M1 or M2 necessarily. [1:56:00, 1:56:20]: necessarily because if something um you know doesn't go through to the finish line that does leave it open for other uses that are out there. So it does allow council a commercial use uh to take into consideration as a tool that's there. The other thing too, as you do have some heavy commercial areas that do need redevelopment and um I think in the 138 corridor, this does allow [1:56:20, 1:56:40]: Those developers some additional opportunities, especially your empty big box types of opportunities, not just data centers, but call centers as well, that have gone into a great example just up the road in Morrow at Southlake with Chime Solutions. They took a former big box store and converted that into a [1:56:40, 1:57:00]: A call center, but also data processing is in there. So this is to open up uh opportunities that are out there. We have seen increased interest, I will say that, um, from uh companies that look to do that as the rest of the Atlanta market is getting uh tapped out, if you will, Douglas County, Fayette County. [1:57:00, 1:57:19]: Those have been built out pretty well for that market. So we're playing well, something that we have been trying to market for the last three years, but the challenge is is available property and what's under the control of the jurisdictions to open up some additional potential opportunities. What's the best way to put it? [1:57:19, 1:57:23]: Okay, so this is laying the groundwork for what may come. [1:57:24, 1:57:44]: Yes and no is probably the best way to put it, but it definitely expands um expands the field to go after and um target some of these uh industries, which we hear from a lot of community detect jobs uh are what we want. And we've seen uh very successful cases in Douglas and Fayette County um here recently with the amount of investment uh [1:57:44, 1:57:49]: Um low impact as far as traffic, but high paying jobs and great for the tax digest as well. [1:57:50, 1:57:55]: Is there anything that we might need to assess ex uh uh address in closed session? [1:57:55, 1:57:57]: Uh no sir, not at this time. [1:57:57, 1:57:58]: Thank you. [1:57:58, 1:58:03]: Any other questions for the council? For um just uh Mr. Finn or Ms. Carter at all? [1:58:04, 1:58:05]: Yes, ma'am, go ahead please. [1:58:06, 1:58:08]: From an educational standpoint, [1:58:09, 1:58:18]: Why is it that most locations only allow data centers and stuff in M one and M two instead of doing something such as this and putting it in the C three? [1:58:19, 1:58:39]: I think it's it's historically, uh I would say especially in Henry County. I mean I started Henry County in two thousand five and you had computer processing data centers in M1, but you never saw them come into those districts. Um now we're starting to see again, like um Josh was saying, that we our t the tech boom is here and people are looking for areas [1:58:39, 1:58:56]: that they can expand with little footprint in our commercial corridors where we have those areas just sitting, not collecting any tax base. And we're trying to open up the opportunity for those folks to come on in and add some more revenue to the tax digest. [1:58:57, 1:59:00]: I guess my question about that is M one. [1:59:00, 1:59:20]: It's extremely, you know, heavy commercial there. And you're talking about data centers, which is a little bit less unlight. So C three seems like it would be appropriate, right? Absolutely. Yeah, it's just as Miss Carter said, you know, councilwoman, if I can uh interject just a little bit. It's just something it's a little out of the thinking, but you know, some other [1:59:20, 1:59:35]: great examples of just out of the thinking getting out of the M1 and uh M two or heavy or light industrial zonings. Um pretty common example if you go to downtown Atlanta, the American Cancer Society headquarters Bicentennial Park, if you're familiar with where I'm talking about that building. [1:59:35, 1:59:55]: Half that building's a data center. You never know it. Um, but it draws people, it also draws other, you know, draw you know tenants and various other things'cause they want to be close by to have that speed and connectivity as well too. So um there are plenty of examples out there. Um, you know, what we want to do to the jurisdictions send something to them, say, hey. [1:59:55, 2:00:10]: Just take a look at this, you know, review your zonings as well too, see, you know, what could be done with that. So that's why we put out the communication out there to leave it up to jurisdictions to make those plans and zoning decisions. Um But we do feel this will open up some more opportunities. [2:00:10, 2:00:11]: Thank you. [2:00:12, 2:00:13]: Once again, any other questions from the council at all? [2:00:14, 2:00:18]: No, ma'am. Okay, if not, then need a motion to accept this uh proposal. Ma'am. Yes, ma'am. [2:00:19, 2:00:19]: Hope. [2:00:20, 2:00:30]: Oh very good catch. Thank you, ma'am. Very good catch. Thank you. All right. On that note, uh public hearing. So I'd like to open this up. [2:00:30, 2:00:35]: For any comments for this particular proposal, start on my very left hand side. [2:00:35, 2:00:38]: Okay. In the middle any comments over here on the left hand side. [2:00:40, 2:00:44]: And anything in the middle. Anything on the right hand side. [2:00:44, 2:00:51]: All right, any any comments against this particular proposal? My left hand side. Okay, anything in the middle? [2:00:51, 2:01:11]: Anything all right. Seeing none for or against, uh closes the public hearing. Now, council, I need a motion to accept the proposal, please. Mayor. Yes, ma'am. I move that we accept the proposal for the unified development code text amendment TX number TX-2022-01. Okay to allow the use of computer data processing services within [2:01:11, 2:01:21]: C three heavy commercial district as permitted use. All right. Is there a second? Second. Okay, so from Ms. Gantt to Mr. Alexander. [2:01:22, 2:01:25]: She naps decision. Thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you. All right. [2:01:27, 2:01:47]: 12, 13, 14, 15 have been taken off the agenda. And to 16. So we're gonna go to 17. 17 deals with a resolution welcoming the new residents to the city of Stockbridge, roughly uh 6,667, I believe it is. Uh Mr. Gardner, are you gonna present this? [2:01:47, 2:01:47]: Yes sir. [2:01:52, 2:01:54]: Huh? [2:01:55, 2:02:01]: No, I'm not gonna read the whole resolution, Mr. Blount. I attempted that last last time you all told me don't do that. [2:02:01, 2:02:15]: So I I so I I do I do listen occasionally. So I'm not gonna Mr. Gardner, you could you please present this, sir, so we can go move on with the meeting. This is a resolution in reference to officially welcoming residents in the city of Stockbridge. [2:02:19, 2:02:22]: Or or or or mister Mr. Washington. [2:02:22, 2:02:42]: Go ahead, sir. No. This was in working with the Georgia legislative office of reapportionment, the number of new residents we actually have close to an accurate count of. And so this resolution is to codify what our understanding of our new population increase is. And so with the new six. [2:02:42, 2:02:45]: six thousand six hundred sixty seven residents. [2:02:45, 2:02:53]: Stockbridge will officially be a population of thirty five thousand is noted in the resolution, which will make us the largest city in Henry County. [2:02:54, 2:03:14]: All right, thank you. Any questions, concerns for Mr. Washington in this resolution? Yes, ma'am, go ahead please. My concern is um this resolution was in our packets when we arrived today, so I haven't had opportunity to review it. But what I do know is um city council district four. [2:03:14, 2:03:15]: Is the largest [2:03:16, 2:03:21]: Council district with the most newly annexed residents. [2:03:21, 2:03:24]: That would be me. Congratulations. [2:03:25, 2:03:30]: So I have not had an opportunity to review this because it was included in our packet. [2:03:31, 2:03:41]: Here when I ride today. Okay. So I'm gonna abstain from this um only because I haven't reviewed it. Thank you. All right. Any other comments for Mr. Washington or Mr. Gardner about the resolution? [2:03:42, 2:03:51]: Council. Right. Well, basically so anyway, on what our official population county. Yeah, welcoming on what our official population county is. [2:03:52, 2:04:08]: Okay. On that note, need a motion to accept this resolution, please. So moved. Okay, it's Mr. Alexander, is there a second? Uh Mr. Blount, second. All favor, please indicate. So I got four zero one. All right, thank you. Resolution passed. Thank you, gentlemen. Appreciate that. Uh [2:04:08, 2:04:28]: Tomorrow, ladies and gentlemen, of course, is Valentine's Day. So any all you gentlemen with those special ladies, your wives, your spouses, significant others, ladies with your husbands, no significant others, wish them well on that day. Have a good time. Enjoy yourselves. Fourteenth of February. And as you well, ladies and gentlemen, we're still in a uh COVID 19. We're still actually, I don't think I'll [2:04:28, 2:04:48]: I don't know if COVID's really going to leave us, but it's probably best to get yourself vaccinated, boosted, and reboosted, things of this nature, and take a flu shot during the course of the winter months. Hopefully you've done so. We want you to remain healthy and strong. Live a long life. On that note, we're going to move on to announcements and upcoming meetings and events. [2:04:48, 2:05:08]: And of course, council meetings will be held in the city council chambers, noting some board committee meetings will continue to place be in place in Zoom by way of Zoom. I'm sorry, meeting dates and times was subject to change. So you can always go to Facebook page in City of Stockbridge or W City of Stockbridge.com to get that information or you can [2:05:08, 2:05:28]: You can call City Hall 770-389-7900 for any updates. Youth Council meetings going to be 6 30 on the second Monday of each month in City Hall Levi Meeting Room on February 30th. Well, that's tonight's February 13th. All right, it was early today. Citywide Development Authority meeting, second Tuesday of each month at 6 p.m. [2:05:28, 2:05:33]: P.M. and City Hall Levi Meeting Room on February 14th is tomorrow. [2:05:33, 2:05:53]: Downtown Development Downtown Development Authority meeting 6 p.m. by way of Zoom, third Tuesday of each month by way of Zoom, February 21st. The U Council Advisory Committee meeting 630 p.m. Second third Tuesday of each month in the Levi Meeting Room City Hall February 21st. Planning Commission meeting 630, City Hall Chambers. [2:05:53, 2:06:13]: Fourth Thursday of each month. Next one's February 23rd. City Council Work Session meeting last Tuesday of each month, 6 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers, February 28th. Main Street Advisory Board meeting second Friday of each month, 9 a.m. City Hall Levi Meeting Room, March 10th, and the City Council meeting, second Monday. [2:06:13, 2:06:33]: Of each month, 6 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers, March 13th. Upcoming events, join Mayor Mayor Pro Tem Barber for the District 4 Meet and Greet Town Hall on Tuesday, February 21st. Excuse me from 6 p.m. to 8 p.m. in the Stockbridge Police Police Precinct Community Room, located at 4545 North Henry Boulevard. [2:06:33, 2:06:34]: Hard. [2:06:36, 2:06:37]: Bingo is back. [2:06:38, 2:06:58]: Join Councilman Blount on Wednesday, February twenty-second, and it's gonna be the Merrill Managers Conference Center. And uh please contact Roslin Rawls at six seven eight-eight three three-three three four eight for more information. Join Councilman Alexander District Five, Quarley Town Hall Meeting Thursday, February twenty-third. [2:06:57, 2:07:05]: Seven PM to nine P. M. location in Merle Manders Conference Center. Save the date. Join council Sir. Yes. [2:07:06, 2:07:26]: Location was changed to uh the Winslow at Eagles Landing Clubhouse in district number five. Okay. Winslow uh HOA community building and it's gonna be district five, uh Courtley uh town hall with Councilman Alexander. Gotcha on the twenty third of February, seven to nine. [2:07:26, 2:07:46]: Save the date. Join Councilman Thomas for the 12th annual African American Heritage Celebration. Tribute to sororities and fraternities and their contributions to the community. Saturday, February 25th, and more details to occur. I believe it's from 4 to 7. Is that correct? 4 to 7 it is. Okay. Please join Mayor Ford for the monthly meet the mayor on Monday. [2:07:45, 2:08:05]: February 27th, 10 a.m. to 11 a.m. and then also from 2 p.m. to 3 p.m. Contact Rosland Ross to schedule an in-person appointment. Call 678-833-3348. Save the date. Join Councilman Alzheimer for the annual Women's History Month celebration, Sunday, March 5th at the Merrill Manters Conference. [2:08:05, 2:08:12]: Center and says more me uh details to follow. Uh Mr. Alexander, do you have a time frame a time on the foot on the fifth? [2:08:15, 2:08:35]: From three to five. Three to five, okay. All right. Three to five on Sunday, March fifth. And we have a continued salute to veterans. Please forward pictures to veterans, including name, branch, rank, years of service and uh to uh councilman Thomas as he presents a special tribute to local veterans. Pictures should be submitted to Rosalind Rawls at R. [2:08:35, 2:08:48]: Rawls at the city of Stockbridge dash G A dot G-O-V and of course thank you veterans for your service. And once again we have we have uh another executive session. All right. Uh so uh counselor need a motion go back in the executive session, please. [2:08:50, 2:08:52]: Is there a motion? Some moved. Is there a second? [2:08:52, 2:08:54]: I'm sorry, I go back w I've moved the we go back to [2:08:54, 2:09:03]: Executive session for real estate personnel litigation. Thank you, ma'am. Sir Second. Second. Okay, um uh councilman Thomas, second that all in favor, please indicate. [2:09:04, 2:09:13]: Okay, unanimous decision on that aspect. Oh well it's four at least four. Mr. Blount's not here. So four four passes. Okay, ladies and gentlemen, we'll go to the same session. We'll be back in a little bit. [2:09:19, 2:09:23]: Can we go ahead and get a motion to reconvene and get move on? [2:09:24, 2:09:28]: It's right over there. [2:09:28, 2:09:29]: Okay. [2:09:30, 2:09:50]: All right, council. I need a motion to end the second session, please. So move. Is there a second? Ms. Barber, second that. Okay. All in favor, please indicate. Uh righty. Now I need a motion to reconvene a council meeting. So move. Okay. Ms. Barber, Miss I got Miss Barber second that also from Alexander Barber. Okay. Uh we have nothing to report from the actual uh second session. [2:09:50, 2:09:54]: this aspect for the public's notice. So I need a motion to end our council meeting, please. [2:09:55, 2:09:57]: Ms. Gansel moved, is there a second? [2:09:57, 2:10:04]: Okay, the guy will give them Mr. Thomas over here. So I'll see second that all in favor, please indicate. Good night, everybody. Meeting is now adjourned. [2:10:06, 2:10:07]: And God bless you all.

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[0:11:12, 0:11:26]: And I'd like to call this uh council work session, january thirty first, twenty twenty three, to order. And invocation tonight, uh Renee Gardin. Okay, come on up, please. Please stand if you're able. [0:11:31, 0:11:33]: Have a bad please bow your heads. [0:11:34, 0:11:39]: Heavenly Father, I pray that you bless us in this meeting and keep us. [0:11:40, 0:11:45]: Lord, make your face shine on us and be gracious to us. [0:11:45, 0:11:51]: I pray that we feel your presence during this meeting because you are with us wherever we go. [0:11:52, 0:12:02]: I pray that this meeting focuses upon you and your plans for us as a body of believers. In your name we pray. Amen. Amen. [0:12:03, 0:12:16]: Pledge allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for me to stand one nation under God individually with liberty and justice for all. [0:12:18, 0:12:19]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:12:24, 0:12:24]: Present. [0:12:28, 0:12:29]: Present. [0:12:30, 0:12:31]: Present. [0:12:35, 0:12:36]: President Councilman Thomas. [0:12:37, 0:12:45]: Mayor Ford, you have a four. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate that. Um I need adoption, matter of fact, I need an amendment to the agenda this evening, please. [0:12:45, 0:12:51]: Um council uh councilman um Thomas, please. Uh Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. And Council. [0:12:52, 0:12:56]: I move to amend the agenda [0:12:57, 0:12:58]: To add [0:13:02, 0:13:06]: to add a resolution [0:13:08, 0:13:12]: to request Henry County State Legislative. [0:13:12, 0:13:14]: And congressional delegation [0:13:15, 0:13:17]: To assist [0:13:17, 0:13:19]: in identifying and help [0:13:21, 0:13:29]: Serve state and federal funding for the Cultural Arts Center, a resolution. [0:13:30, 0:13:31]: Um [0:13:32, 0:13:50]: I move to Councilman uh I'm let's let's do that first, okay, if you don't mind. Okay. Okay. Is there a second to that motion? Ms. Barber second, all all in favor, please indicate. Okay. And what we'll do is that we'll put that right after the council consideration to appoint members of the downtown development authority. We'll put it right there. [0:13:50, 0:13:50]: Okay. [0:13:51, 0:13:53]: Uh okay, go ahead, um [0:13:53, 0:13:56]: Uh I also moved to enter into [0:13:56, 0:14:00]: uh to amend the agenda to uh enter into executive session [0:14:01, 0:14:15]: Uh as agenda item one for personnel, litigation, and real estate. Okay. So you're second to that motion. I second. Uh ms uh miss barber, second that all in favor, please indicate. Okay. [0:14:15, 0:14:25]: Yeah, Mayor Po Mayor Potam Barber. Motion second that motion. That's a unanimous decision. And we'll put that executive session right after public comments if there are any public comments, all right? [0:14:27, 0:14:47]: Alrighty. Now I need a motion to to approve the the entire agenda, please. Mayor. Yes, sir. We have another um agenda uh uh amendment. Is that right? Go ahead. Yes, I'd like to amend the agenda to have a a briefing on the warehouse on highway one thirty on um [0:14:47, 0:15:07]: Candler wrote that has been a hot topic in the community. Basically we just want to be able to give the public an update on what we're doing. Let them know that we're going through the process of reviewing it and uh so they understand that we um we're in the loop and we're [0:15:07, 0:15:18]: actually reviewing the process because there's a lot of concern that uh the city was caught off. That's a very long motion. Did you the topic is is Candle Roads, is what you wanna do. All right. Is there a second to that motion? [0:15:18, 0:15:24]: I second. Uh okay, Miss again seconds that motion. Okay. All in favor of that motion be of this being added. [0:15:25, 0:15:39]: Okay. Now that'll come that's gonna come further on in in the car. That'll c we did tw uh the resolution. It was after council consideration, so we'll put this down after that uh item and uh [0:15:40, 0:15:41]: Okay. [0:15:41, 0:15:45]: Now I need a motion to accept the rest of the uh agenda, please. [0:15:47, 0:15:53]: Mayor. Yes ma'am I move that we accept the the remaining of the agenda. Okay, is there a second? Second. Uh okay. [0:15:53, 0:15:55]: Mr. How's that ask second? All in favor, please indicate. [0:15:56, 0:16:02]: All right, we'll do that. Outstanding, outstanding. Okay. On that note we have the review of the minutes. I'm sorry, ma'am. [0:16:02, 0:16:04]: Mr. Gardner is trying to get your attention. [0:16:09, 0:16:17]: Good night, Mayor Council. Mayor, if you could agenda amend the agenda, I'm sorry, to remove the Spanning Fest to come back um at a later date. Oh be fine. [0:16:19, 0:16:24]: Uh that would be uh it would be uh yeah, it's number thirteen, presentation. [0:16:24, 0:16:31]: All right. Mayor? Yes, Mayor. I uh move that we remove item number thirteen from the agenda. Okay, is there a second to that motion? [0:16:31, 0:16:34]: Second. Okay, Ms. Alzheimer's second. All favor, please indicate. [0:16:36, 0:16:37]: Uh the second was Mr. Alexander. [0:16:37, 0:16:39]: Okay, all fair please indicate. [0:16:40, 0:17:00]: Unanimous decision. Okay, it is removed. All right. Uh since that is out, we already approved the rest of the uh the other agenda. Okay, so on that note, review the minutes, draft minutes from the uh council meeting on December twelfth and also the dra uh the council work session minutes on the twentieth. Review those. If the changes please get that to the [0:17:00, 0:17:07]: Clerk, and we'll be able to approve these minutes at our next meeting, which will be in February, February 13th. On that note, um [0:17:08, 0:17:09]: Uh [0:17:10, 0:17:12]: Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments at all? [0:17:13, 0:17:17]: Okay. On that note then no public comments. I need a motion to go to the executive session, please. [0:17:17, 0:17:22]: Mayor, I move that we go into executive session for uh real estate personnel and litigation. Is there a second? [0:17:22, 0:17:30]: Um uh I got Mr. Alexander, I'm Mr. Thomas the second net. All in favor, please indicate. All right, ladies and gentlemen, we'll be back. We're going to the executive session. [0:17:38, 0:17:46]: Okay. Okay. You good? All right. I need a motion now to reconvene our our work session. Council work session, please. So moved. Ms. Gantt, second. [0:17:47, 0:17:49]: Ms. Barmer second that. Okay, all in favor, please indicate. [0:17:50, 0:17:57]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, from the executive session there are a couple items we'll mention during the course of the agenda the and that this aspect, so we'll stand stand [0:17:58, 0:18:02]: Tune for that as well. On that note we're gonna move on uh with the [0:18:03, 0:18:04]: Council discussion. [0:18:04, 0:18:07]: Well, excuse me if I back up a second, I'm on the wrong page, right? [0:18:08, 0:18:09]: Alrighty. [0:18:09, 0:18:11]: Old business, old business. [0:18:12, 0:18:32]: Council consideration to approve T Mobile five-year lease renewal at forty six seventeen North Henry Boulevard, million uh gallon water tank at the rate of three thousand five hundred uh dollars per month as a lease uh license fee, partial calendar year for to be prorated in advance by the fifth day of each calendar. [0:18:31, 0:18:42]: month. Therefore, notwithstanding any of the contrary in the lease, the lease fee will escalate by fifteen percent of the first day of each renewal year. Mr. Aaron, please. Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. [0:18:43, 0:19:03]: For the past several months, staff has been contacting uh municipalities to try to find out what they're receiving and rental fees for the use of their storage tanks and we've been unable to gather any information. Everybody we call has not responded or they don't know who or how much [0:19:03, 0:19:23]: They receive. We also asked the provider, they were they would not provide us with that information because I'm pretty sure they don't want us to know what others are paying. So they're currently paying thirty-five hundred dollars a month to lease space on the water tower. So I would suggest that we make a counteroffer to them. [0:19:23, 0:19:32]: And you know, the contract expires in February. We just make a counter offer say we think it's worth more than thirty five hundred dollars. What's the recommendation, sir? [0:19:33, 0:19:42]: I I would just suggest me and the city manager can have a conversation with the with the uh leasing agent. [0:19:42, 0:19:55]: Okay, so you don't want us to vote on this n this evening then? If if you would like just uh put a figure in there that we would take no less than X amount, then we do that as well. [0:19:55, 0:20:00]: Uh ms uh Mr Gardner, sir you have any ideas of what this this amount should be? [0:20:02, 0:20:02]: You wanna come to [0:20:04, 0:20:24]: Oh really? Up to all right. All right. Hold on. Okay. Anything else, Mr. Mr. Aaron right now? It's it's just been difficult to try to find this information. We've called Hampton, we've called Fairbank, we've called McDonald, Locust Grove, uh Heron County Water Authority, we've called Fayetteville. [0:20:24, 0:20:37]: And Union City as well to try to gather that information, but we have been unable to gather information as to what they're receiving for rental fees. All right, thanks. Council, any questions, concerns, Mr. Aaron? Yeah. Go right ahead, Mr. Blount. [0:20:38, 0:20:57]: I think any figures or numbers that need to be discussed, those things should be just discussed, embedded and brought back to us rather than we just throwing out random numbers like this. Because, you know, negotiation, negotiations. All right. Nothing uh this doesn't change that process, does it? [0:20:59, 0:20:59]: Mm. [0:21:00, 0:21:06]: I guess not then comments there, Aaron or Gardner on that last question about changing negotiations. [0:21:07, 0:21:12]: I guess not. M uh go ahead, Miss Gantt. Thank you. That step. Go ahead, Ms. Gantt. Okay. [0:21:12, 0:21:13]: Do we have a [0:21:15, 0:21:16]: Previous contract? [0:21:16, 0:21:31]: Yes, the previous contract was for thirty five hundred dollars a month, so that's what they've been paying the city for that rental on a monthly basis. And then it said is so is that previous contract that states that it will escalate fifteen percent on renewal day [0:21:31, 0:21:41]: Was that th from the original contract agreement? W that's what I assume. But from talking with the agent that's representing them as that [0:21:41, 0:21:50]: you know, she suggested, well, the city can come back to us and saying what they want or what they would recommend. So [0:21:50, 0:21:58]: So based off of the old agreement, if we were new, based off of their what we had in the old agreement with an additional fifteen percent increase [0:22:00, 0:22:17]: Um, I guess what you're saying is you wanna make sure that the numbers are right. I would hold off on voting on anything. I think we should table the I think we should continue this and see if you can find some answers to make sure that that fifteen percent increase based off of the old contract is within reason. If not [0:22:18, 0:22:24]: If it's way out of the ballpark and we need to increase more, then that's something we need to consider. But I don't wanna shoot ourselves in the foot either. [0:22:24, 0:22:44]: So the contract expires in the end of February. So or do we go month to month and allow them to continue paying what they're paying while we're trying to find out, like I say, it's it's just been extremely difficult when talking to other municipalities to find out exactly what they're receiving in payments for the rental space. [0:22:44, 0:22:49]: Mirror. So this is Opa Records with that, right? I mean, like the other [0:22:50, 0:22:58]: clerks and other uh jurisdictions, other cities and municipalities should have that information somewhere accessible. [0:22:58, 0:22:59]: Somewhere. [0:23:00, 0:23:04]: Is it not on their municode? Did we do a search or anything of that nature? [0:23:04, 0:23:22]: Every every avenue I've tried, I have not been able to gather information. It's like you get bounced from person to person. Oh, this person handles it, you talk to that person. No, I'm not the one that handles it. But I know that they're receiving rental fees for the space on their water towers. [0:23:22, 0:23:23]: Okay. All right. [0:23:23, 0:23:35]: Mr. Alexander, go ahead, please. Yeah, my question would be me, it's just basically our water tower is serving as a cell phone tower. Yes. [0:23:35, 0:23:53]: So, I mean, it's pretty consistent. What are they paying for the their position on all of the cell phone tower, not just the cell phone towers on top of a water tower? Because basically we're playing the same role. So what does ATT or Verizon or whomever pay to be on? [0:23:54, 0:24:08]: a cell phone tower anywhere in Metro Atlanta would give us a number that we could compare it to. Now maybe they're getting out they're probably getting out on the cheat because we're saying, well it's just our water tower. But in effect it's just another one of their cell towers. [0:24:10, 0:24:30]: So the agent we've been speaking with every time we ask them for that information, they have not provided the same thing. I'm just saying we we we we don't need to go to the agent. We need to go to the providers or their or a broker who works these deals out for these cell phone companies. Somebody out there knows what Verizon is paying to go on a cell tower. [0:24:30, 0:24:44]: Somebody knows. Mr. Can we ask Mr. City Manager or maybe the Economic Development Director to assist you? Somebody knows what these companies are paying to go on A cell phone tower in Metro Atlanta. Somebody knows. We just gotta find out. [0:24:45, 0:24:48]: Mr. Gardner, so might you assist us? [0:24:50, 0:24:52]: We'll bring this back at the March meeting then. [0:24:53, 0:25:13]: Yeah, if you do that, then obviously you're saying that uh we have to go month by month. Is that what it amounts to? I I would assume they wouldn't want to pay us the thirty-five hundred dollars. Right. Since we hadn't made a decision. Yes. So you all understand that I I suppose that's certainly until we get it. I mean, we can make it retroactive to the day if we want to, because they won't they not gonna give up their [0:25:13, 0:25:19]: their cell phone access because they gotta build a whole nother tower if they do. So trust me, it's worth a minute. [0:25:20, 0:25:27]: Mm. Mayor. Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. Well one of the things when you you you talk about open meetings and open record stuff and all is what [0:25:27, 0:25:30]: If if you get the information prior to [0:25:31, 0:25:34]: the next council meeting which should be a you should be able to get. [0:25:35, 0:25:39]: An email showing us what estimates are across the state of Georgia. [0:25:40, 0:25:41]: On sail towers, that's [0:25:42, 0:25:47]: That's just sending us information. We're not making the decision by getting information. [0:25:47, 0:25:50]: And if we get that information, we can make a sound decision. [0:25:50, 0:25:54]: At the next council meeting wouldn't have to wait to February the e the end of February. [0:25:54, 0:26:02]: And uh and if we do that, then everything will still be in line. We don't have to do month by month. We just tell'em with the contractually what we need them to do. [0:26:03, 0:26:05]: The next scheduled council meeting is actually february thirteenth. [0:26:08, 0:26:10]: Yes, sir, some additional information here? [0:26:11, 0:26:22]: Um, he was just showing me what's what's the average annual rate is about forty five thousand dollars a year. So we're at thirty we're about forty f yeah. [0:26:22, 0:26:25]: So the axeum for five thousand dollars wouldn't be [0:26:25, 0:26:31]: Wouldn't wouldn't be out of the question. I think the average is the average bumpy average is right around forty four hundred. [0:26:33, 0:26:37]: All right. So right now we're at thirty something hundred. Thirty five hundred. Thirty five hundred. [0:26:38, 0:26:53]: That's why I said five thousand dollars'cause it's typically in that area right now. All right. So on no knowing that information, uh counsel, you wanna m um vo vote this in now or you just wanna go ahead and wait and do some additional research here? As she desires. [0:26:54, 0:26:59]: This is this for a year would put us what, around forty two thousand. [0:27:00, 0:27:11]: It's the average that's what they said it. This rate that's on this on the agenda, it was put us around forty two thousand for the year. Yes. And if the average rate is forty forty five forty five. [0:27:13, 0:27:22]: I mean it's up to this council, they're ready to make that decision. Well, that's what I said. Sir, I I mean I would I would go with the five thousand, up to five thousand and then let the staff work it out. [0:27:23, 0:27:43]: All right. Anybody else? Now put a motion in the floor then please in reference to that. Do we need a motion? Yes, uh based on the city manager's recommendation on the average cost, we'll authorize staff to up to five thousand dollars to negotiate the terms of uh allowing this cell tower to go on the water tower in Stockbridge. [0:27:43, 0:27:47]: Second. Um Ms. Gantt, second in all favor, please indicate. [0:27:49, 0:27:53]: Opposed? Abstain? This is okay, so that's four zero one. [0:27:53, 0:27:57]: Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. Aaron. Okay. [0:28:01, 0:28:17]: Okay, council consideration approved the youth council use of the Moral Matters Conference Center lower level to allow the youth council to hold its um retreat either on February twenty fourth of twenty twenty three or march fourth of twenty twenty three from eight AM to five P. M. Presented by Dr. Gardeen. [0:28:17, 0:28:37]: The new chair. Yes. Good evening to you. Go ahead, please. Mayor and Council. Um, so annually, the Stockbridge Youth Council, we hold a retreat for team building um for the youth council as well as advisory, but it's mainly for the youth council. Um this year we voted in um five new members, so we would [0:28:37, 0:28:57]: Like to um the the we would integrate them into the retreat to share as well. Um the purpose of the retreat is like I said, team building, but we also go over the bylaws, the code of conduct, so you know everybody will know it's be on the same same sheet of music. So we requested two dates. Um we got with Miss Randy Rawls, who's out liaison. [0:28:57, 0:29:07]: on and she did say that both dates was available, but our first choice is the twenty fourth of February. So if we can stick with that date, we'd w we would really appreciate. [0:29:07, 0:29:27]: Using the um basement of the mayor manor. Okay, questions council or motion. Mayor. Yes, ma'am, go ahead please. I move that we approve the um youth council's use of the uh Merrill Manners facility um for the um on the twenty fourth of February. Yes for the retreat. All right, Mr. second. [0:29:27, 0:29:29]: that uh all in favor please indicate [0:29:30, 0:29:33]: Navy Sization, thank you very much. Thank you all very much. Thank you for waiting. [0:29:34, 0:29:41]: And by the way, outstanding that the cities united. You all did outstanding you had a great time. Did a great thing with those kids there. Appreciate it. [0:29:43, 0:30:03]: Council consideration and approved the award for a fixed contract to the lowest responsive, responsible bidder, Ferguson Enterprises LLC, DBA, Ferguson Waterworks. Invitation to bid ITB number 2022-0018. For the city of Stockbridge, 2021, Water Service Line Replace. [0:30:03, 0:30:17]: investments uh material in the total amount of uh$102 million five hundred and twelve dollars and ninety-eight cents. Excuse me one hundred and twelve thousand five hundred and twelve dollars and ninety eight cents. The funding source is a SPLOS five presented by Mr. Aaron please. [0:30:17, 0:30:37]: Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. Staff is coming before you tonight to ask for approval to purchase these items to do a uh water service line project. Uh ever since I've been here, we've had issues with leaking water service, especially in the uh Willow Springs subdivision, the developer used substandards. [0:30:37, 0:30:57]: uh service line material when it was installed so we're constantly uh repairing water leaks over there having to cut the road and things like that so what we're doing is we had bidded this project out previously and it was extremely expensive so we decided to go a different route which was to purchase material [0:30:57, 0:31:04]: material and then just bid out the labor portion to install or replace these services. And so that's what we're coming for. [0:31:05, 0:31:09]: for tonight it'll be over five hundred water services that we'll have to replace. [0:31:10, 0:31:17]: Okay, thank you. Council, any questions for Mr. Aaron about this? If not any motion to accept the proposal. [0:31:18, 0:31:37]: Mayor. Yes, ma'am. I move that we app approve the invitation to bid number twenty twenty two dash zero zero one eight city of Stockbridge twenty twenty one water service line replacement materials. All right, thank you. Uh Miss Barber second that motion. Ms. Gantt, thank you. All right, all in favor, please indicate. [0:31:40, 0:31:50]: Council Consideration approved the amended list of roadways for the use of speed detection devices. And Major Glenn Callis and Chief Frank Trammer. [0:31:50, 0:32:01]: Even the mayor council. I'm probably messed up the last thing. How's what's the proper pronunciation? It's Kalish. Nobody gets it right. I'll get it right. No problem. Kalish. All right, go ahead, sir. [0:32:02, 0:32:12]: Uh good evening, Mayor and Council. Uh police department is um asking the uh city council's approval of uh amended list of roadways. [0:32:13, 0:32:19]: Uh city council uh approved last year on April twenty sixth resolution R twenty two fourteen fifty one. [0:32:20, 0:32:28]: For uh approving a list of roadways for speed detection for law enforcement with the annexation. That obviously that list of roadways has grown. [0:32:28, 0:32:34]: Um you have been provided the additional list of roadways for just seeking council's approval on the full list. [0:32:35, 0:32:38]: Thank you. Council, any questions for uh Major Kalish? [0:32:39, 0:32:39]: No. [0:32:40, 0:32:41]: Yes, ma'am. Go ahead, Ms. Barber. [0:32:42, 0:32:46]: Okay, I'm looking at all of the rows that's on this list. [0:32:48, 0:32:52]: How do I know which ones are the newly added roads? Is it [0:32:52, 0:32:54]: On page one of four. [0:32:56, 0:33:15]: Uh, the roles that we originally approved. But which ones were so on the top of the original uh the original resolution from last year it says uh revised December twenty twenty. You see that that's the initial list. The new list says on the top revised twenty uh September twenty twenty two. [0:33:20, 0:33:27]: I think it's also marked with number one uh zero one two three dash one five one S at the top right corner. [0:33:28, 0:33:30]: Closer to the back, last two pages. [0:33:31, 0:33:33]: Got it. Three pages, two or three pages. [0:33:36, 0:33:48]: Now I was um one really quick question. Sure. So I see um several of the major corridors that are in my district. The only one that I don't see is Bally Hill Road. [0:33:51, 0:33:57]: So so I I I apologize, I'm having trouble hearing you. But what what I can say for the list of roadways is not every [0:33:58, 0:34:14]: um foot of every road roadway is approved, it has to be granted by Department of Transportation based upon um site visibility and grade. So if there's only a small portion and there's not five hundred feet of visibility, it will not be approved to run uh radar or LIDAR in that area. [0:34:14, 0:34:16]: Gotcha. Thank you. You're welcome. [0:34:17, 0:34:19]: Any other questions, Council? Remajor Calish. [0:34:21, 0:34:37]: If not, then I need a motion to accept the proposal. Mayor. Yes, ma'am. I move that we um approve and amend it all the look list of roadways for use of speed detection devices. All right, thank you very much. Ms. Barber seconded that. All in favor, please indicate. Unanimous decision. Thank you very much. Okay. [0:34:39, 0:34:52]: Council consideration to approve tasers and body worn cameras, the cost of the purchase of ten additional tasers at thirty six thousand dollars and the cost of the purchase of ten additional body worn worn cameras. [0:34:53, 0:35:12]: At thirty thousand eight hundred and twenty um dollars. The total cost of items is sixty six eight twenty. The city has approved these items as part of the two thousand twenty three capital improvement plan budget for the police department. Presented once again by Major Kalish and uh Chief Framer. Thank you. Go ahead, please. [0:35:13, 0:35:33]: Thank thank you, Mayor and Council. Uh as you're aware, the city's grown with the annexation. We've added uh uh in the process of adding ten additional positions uh with the grant funding, the Department of Justice grant funding for the ten additional police officers, the police department seeking approval um for the additional uh tasers and body worn cameras. [0:35:33, 0:35:43]: uh as previously mentioned has been um voted on approved in the capital budget it's been vetted by uh legal this is a uh sole source and a um [0:35:44, 0:35:45]: Um [0:35:46, 0:35:47]: Under state contract as well. [0:35:48, 0:35:50]: Okay. Questions, council? [0:35:51, 0:36:03]: No questions on any motion then accepted. Ms. Barber, go ahead please. It's all moved. Okay, is there a second? Sir. Mr. Alzana second. That all in favor, please indicate. She now's decision. Thank you very much. [0:36:06, 0:36:26]: Council consideration to approve the purchase of eleven portable two-way radios for the city of Stockbridge Police Department. The cost of the purchase of eleven additional portable radios, sixty-eight thousand three hundred and forty-five dollars and seventy-five cents. City has approved these as part of the twenty twenty-three capital budget presented by once again Major Kalish. [0:36:26, 0:36:46]: G Tremor. Go ahead, please. Thank you, sir. Uh again with the addition of the ten additional officers, it's necessary for us to purchase the eleven portable radios. Um, as you mentioned, the total cost is sixty-eight thousand three hundred and forty-five dollars and seventy-five cents. It's also a uh sole source vendor under state contract as well in [0:36:46, 0:36:49]: uh approved uh is under [0:36:49, 0:36:53]: uh the amount approved by city council in the capital uh [0:36:54, 0:36:54]: But [0:36:55, 0:36:59]: Thank you. Questions? At all council. You have no questions. I need a motion, please. [0:37:01, 0:37:11]: Okay, uh Mr. Blount so move that. Is there a second? I second. Okay. Okay, Ms. Gantt, second that. All in favor, please indicate. She unavouned the decision. Thank you very much. [0:37:13, 0:37:33]: Okay. A council consideration approved the purchase of twelve police vehicles for the city of Stark Bridge Police Department under Georgia State contract nine nine nine nine-001-spd zero zero zero zero one eight three-zero zero zero six. The city has approved the capital expenditure of seven seven hundred ninety-four [0:37:33, 0:37:53]: four thousand dollars for police vehicles and assorted emergency equipment in the twenty twenty three budget. Once again, Mayor Calish and actually I'll be presenting. Sir I'll I'll be presenting this and the reason being is um there's actually a [0:37:53, 0:38:13]: A modification to what was originally proposed. The amount requested initially for the 10 vehicles was$752, uh$816. What we didn't realize until after all this had been presented to council is that the cost of the police radios were not included within that. [0:38:13, 0:38:14]: Um [0:38:14, 0:38:28]: amount and so I do have and I can provide you all with copies of the um modified uh quotes that include the police radios. The police radios are uh five thousand five hundred uh [0:38:28, 0:38:48]: And forty-six dollars and seventy-one cents each, which uh brings the grand total to thirty-eight thousand eight hundred and twenty-seven dollars uh for the uh patrol vehicles. And um it increases the amount that we originally were requesting for the purchase of those twelve additional vehicles from seven hundred and fifty-two thousand eight hundred and sixteen dollars to seven hundred. [0:38:48, 0:39:08]: I will point out, however, that the$791,643 is under the$794,000 that was approved in the capital budget for the procurement of police vehicles, emergency equipment, computers associated with [0:39:08, 0:39:21]: With those vehicles along with the mobile radios uh inside those cars. And so we'd be asking for the council's approval uh to purchase those twelve additional vehicles so that we can outfit the ten additional officers that we are in the process of onboarding. [0:39:22, 0:39:25]: And the total amount once again seven ninety one, six forty three. [0:39:26, 0:39:45]: Seven ninety one six forty three. That's correct, sir. And this too has been vetted by legal counsel. Okay. Uh we will be pr uh procuring these vehicles through Wade Court Ford, who was awarded the state contract, and we referenced the state contract number um in this request. Okay. Counsel any questions for the chief? Yes. Uh m Miss Barber. [0:39:45, 0:39:46]: Oh you saw him. [0:39:47, 0:40:07]: I'm sorry. I thought you raised your hand. Okay. Okay, go ahead. Uh well I had uh Ms. Tramer, we talked about this and I think you know where I'm going. And um in terms of are there any EV vehicles available for the police department in terms of where we are on these contracts as we move toward um being more involved? [0:40:06, 0:40:15]: Environmentally friendly, and the city at some point would start to move toward purchasing uh EV vehicles in the fleet. [0:40:16, 0:40:32]: You know, we we would love to do that honestly. Um we have pr we have inquired about that. We looked at this as a matter of fact last year. Uh w unfortunately there are only a few vehicles that are on the market uh that are approved for police usage. Uh one of those vehicles is the mock the uh m the Ford Mustang Mach E. [0:40:33, 0:40:53]: Um is a point of comparison. We're spending we're paying about$40,000 for the the vehicles that we're acquiring now. Those are around$58,000, so$18,000 difference in each of those vehicles. The price is still a little high there. And I will point out that no no there are not many agencies that are using these vehicles for patrol purposes. [0:40:53, 0:41:13]: These vehicles are typically assigned to the administrative division for administrative purposes. The battery life on these vehicles is about 200 miles on a full charge with a battery. And our officers in patrolling 12-hour shifts are patrolling about 75 to 100 miles per shift. And if we use the extremes on the take, [0:41:13, 0:41:32]: Take home policy. So 35 miles home, 35 miles to work, we're looking at about 170 miles, which is putting us on the fringe of the usage of that vehicle. And then furthermore, uh with all the emergency equipment, uh, that has a tendency to drain the battery a little more. So I think that we're getting there. There's actually um in the um [0:41:32, 0:41:41]: Uh the future there are uh some some options that are becoming available that are more specific to uh the patrol function, but um [0:41:42, 0:41:48]: You know, for purposes of it right now, I guess go back to answer your question. We're looking at a six month lead time to acquire an emergency vehicle, and obviously [0:41:49, 0:41:55]: With us now being fully responsible for the additional eight thousand residents, the additional patrol area. Um [0:41:55, 0:42:15]: Uh that that's that that's a long time to wait to procure those administrative vehicles uh for our our our team members. Do you have any is this exhausting the full budget uh for vehicles this year or might there be an additional purpose purchase that could come up? Because from what I understand there is uh grant money. [0:42:15, 0:42:35]: money, lots of it available to purchase EV vehicles below$100,000. So there's been a big push from the state side and the federal side to assist in getting EV vehicles out to the community and there's subsidies available right now to buy them. So is does this exhaust the budget? [0:42:34, 0:42:50]: Or might there be some a look at and I know the new ones have a more range of uh maybe about three hundred miles. Yeah. Um as it relates to exhausting the budget, I would say yes because as was presented, we're we' the we budgeted seven hundred ninety four thousand dollars. We're at seven ninety one right now. [0:42:51, 0:42:56]: So anything over that's gonna take us over the budget, we certainly could, you know, e explore that, but [0:42:56, 0:42:57]: Again [0:42:57, 0:43:06]: It's not that we're verse to it and and just so you know, too, the vehicles that we're procuring are an eco boost, and so um they are a uh a hybrid model vehicle. [0:43:06, 0:43:19]: that has uh on average a thirty to forty percent savings in fuel economy. And so uh th they are there is a less of an impact on the uh environment with the vehicles that we're procuring. Um but uh [0:43:20, 0:43:40]: You know, as it relates to the grant funding, I really can't speak to that. I've not heard of anything. Uh while there may be some opportunities that's something we would have to do some research and and uh explore because I'm not aware of anything for law enforcement specifically. Well certainly as we go forward uh on the next round, I certainly would like to see us move forward with some uh E V vehicles in terms of [0:43:40, 0:44:00]: The police department, public works, and all of these because you know I was talking to an EV user the other day. She said she spends fifteen dollars a month charging a car versus two hundred and fifty dollars a month for or two hundred dollars a month for fuel. So that's something that we want to look at in terms of overall savings for us, as you say, maybe [0:44:00, 0:44:10]: maybe in the administrative side or other areas. So imagine that. Instead of two hundred and fifty dollars or three hundred dollars a month for vehicle, you're looking at twenty dollar electric charge. [0:44:11, 0:44:18]: All right. Ms. Barber. I wanted to ask, um, are there not any ARPA phones that are available? [0:44:19, 0:44:20]: For this purchase. [0:44:21, 0:44:26]: I couldn't speak to that and we were it's gonna go like a profile we if we were just [0:44:27, 0:44:29]: Gotcha. Thank you. Miss Gett. [0:44:29, 0:44:31]: The uh vehicles uh [0:44:31, 0:44:40]: I noticed they were gonna be purchased from Wade Ford Company. Is that because they're uh that's the place that sells those particular specialized vehicles? [0:44:41, 0:44:52]: Is that a reason? Well, they were awarded the uh the the state contract for Georgia for uh the police interceptor uh sports utility vehicles that we're procuring, so that's why we're purchasing through uh through Wade Ford. [0:44:52, 0:44:53]: Okay. [0:44:54, 0:45:00]: Any questions for fine police department? No. Good? We need a motion to accept this proposal, please. So move. [0:45:01, 0:45:21]: I'll give Ms. Barber. All right, how about a second? Ms. Alzan? Ms. Alzheimer's a second. All in favor, please indicate. All righty. Unanimous season. Thank you, gentlemen. Appreciate it. Okay. Thank you, Victor. Thank you. Okay. Let's see here. Okay. Council consideration appoint members of the youth council advisory committee. It says uh [0:45:20, 0:45:26]: um well it says Mr Washington here, but I know after discussion, Miss Gann is gonna take this here. [0:45:26, 0:45:40]: Mayor, I move that we um approve uh the the appointment of Deanna Williams and Thomas Smith for the Youth Council Advisory Committee. Okay. Um um and Mr. Blount second that all in favor please indicate. [0:45:41, 0:45:43]: Thank you, United City. Outstanding. [0:45:43, 0:45:44]: All right. [0:45:44, 0:45:47]: Council consideration appoint member to downtown dilemma authority. [0:45:47, 0:46:05]: Uh once again, Mr. Alexander, please. Yes, Mayor, I want to nominate um Robert Anderson for the position of uh Downtown Development Authority Board Member. Is there a second? Mr. Blount second down again. All in favor, please indicate. Thank you very much. Unanimous decision. All right. [0:46:05, 0:46:15]: And we had added to the agenda a resolution. And um on that note uh for that resolution, I wanna bring it to uh Mr. Thomas for your comments, please. [0:46:16, 0:46:17]: Thank you, Mayor. [0:46:19, 0:46:31]: Last week during the uh Cities United Summit, uh several of the uh Stockbridge Council members met with uh some of the Henry County delegation. [0:46:31, 0:46:35]: А і спецификли Сенатор Іманюс. [0:46:36, 0:46:38]: Uh during that discussion [0:46:38, 0:46:40]: A request was made. [0:46:41, 0:46:41]: Two [0:46:42, 0:46:46]: Uh, Senator Jones and men of the other delegation members. [0:46:46, 0:46:48]: to assist the set of stock bridge in [0:46:49, 0:46:59]: and identifying uh grants that may be used for funding the uh cultural arts facility. [0:47:00, 0:47:01]: So um [0:47:02, 0:47:03]: Attorney [0:47:04, 0:47:05]: Berry. [0:47:05, 0:47:18]: um has a resolution that he would like to read um in in favor of uh us making that request. So mayor if you would no no problem sir appreciate it. Mr Berry sir. [0:47:20, 0:47:21]: Because he hit [0:47:21, 0:47:25]: Yeah, yeah, if if he if needs uh if he needs to come to the front, please. Appreciate it. Okay. [0:47:30, 0:47:31]: Thank you. [0:47:32, 0:47:41]: Good afternoon, Mayor Council. And before before Mr. Berry start, I also wanted to let everyone know that one of the things I'm working on for any council members that are headed up to NLC. [0:47:42, 0:47:44]: Is setting up meetings with our delegation. [0:47:45, 0:48:05]: Um our federal delegation up there to talk about some things that we need down here at the city of Stockbridge and also to thank them for some of the awards we've gotten, especially as related to the police department. So I'm trying to set those meetings up with myself and whoever's going up to to meet with um Congressman Scott and um [0:48:05, 0:48:08]: uh w Senator Warner can um us off. [0:48:08, 0:48:10]: Fantastic. Thank you, sir. Appreciate that. [0:48:12, 0:48:32]: Mr. Berry, sir. Thank you, Mayor. Uh Pro Tem. Uh do you want me to read the entire resolution or just the what the resolution actually does in this instance or what's uh the the point here is to uh ask the state legislative delegation and the federal delegation of Congress to to try and identify state and federal sources of funding. [0:48:32, 0:48:35]: And they can be used for the cultural arts and or [0:48:35, 0:48:41]: Can you speak into the microphone, please? Sure. Thank you. Sorry about that. Do you need me to repeat what I said or not? [0:48:42, 0:48:48]: The the point of the resolution and I I can read the entire resolution. Yeah, please why don't you do that, sir? Put it in the record, that way we we're clear. [0:48:49, 0:48:51]: Testing my reading skills, right? Yeah, absolutely. [0:48:51, 0:48:53]: Don't let it be too long. [0:48:54, 0:48:58]: Uh well I'll pick up the where's the city count? St stand by stand by Mr. Gary. [0:48:59, 0:49:17]: Y I guess you all a a quick synopsis of what this says, it'll be fine with you all. Is that what it might okay. Give us a excuse. This is a resolution respectfully requesting that the um [0:49:18, 0:49:20]: The delegation [0:49:20, 0:49:30]: At the Georgia General Assembly and the US Federal Congressional Delegation helped identify state and federal sources of funding that can be used for the Cultural Arts Center. [0:49:31, 0:49:50]: All right. Thank you, sir. Is there a motion to accept this uh resolution? Mayor. I second. Okay. Okay. I'm giving it to Mr. Blount, okay? And Miss Ms. Gantt second that. All in favor, please indicate. What real quick, I just one comment. If I could really quick. Oh, I thought you said something. [0:49:51, 0:49:53]: Oh okay, after I choose okay stand by, stand by, excuse me. [0:49:54, 0:50:04]: All right. Oh listen to regroup. Uh stand by Mr. Alexander. Okay, mister go ahead, uh Mr. Thomas, I'm sorry. Well I I I think I motioned to accept it. [0:50:04, 0:50:24]: Okay. Well that's why we can still have conversation after after we get seconded. You motion to to accept it. Okay. Is there a second? You second. Ms. Gatsek. Conversation, discussion, please. Yes, I just wanted to say that you know we had uh thank GMA for uh bringing us to the Capitol. Right. And I want to thank uh Senator Emmanuel Jones. He said that he is the [0:50:24, 0:50:38]: He's the chairman of the MLK Junior uh committee at the state capitol and uh he had requested that we send this in during our conversation. Right. So certainly uh we want to do that and uh we wanna thank him for leading the delegation. [0:50:38, 0:50:51]: Absolutely, absolutely. Okay. Any other comments? Miss Barber Guay, please. Yes. Um in regards to Mr. Gardner, who spoke about our uh meeting with Senators Scott. [0:50:51, 0:50:56]: Can I ask for a friendly amendment to that to include the youth and senior center? [0:50:57, 0:51:03]: Certainly if they are able to identify some funding for us on the federal level, we need it. [0:51:03, 0:51:11]: Yeah, I wanted to make sure we cast a wide net. Not not just those, but make sure any of the facilities that we need funding we can listen. [0:51:11, 0:51:31]: Okay. Now, uh maybe we need to do two resolutions. Okay. Okay. Senator Jones has specifically asked that we do one project at a time because he did not want it to get bogged down by multiple requests. He did. He did our standards. That's on the state level. Yeah. I'm speaking in regards to the resolutions. Okay. Okay. That's fine. [0:51:32, 0:51:33]: All right. [0:51:33, 0:51:45]: So I would imagine the council's uh it's all right with two re diff separate resolutions for this. Okay. All right. So um on that note, uh do we don't have to amend we don't have to amend the uh the the motion for that. [0:51:46, 0:51:47]: Yeah, question. [0:51:49, 0:52:02]: I think that we test the um legal to draft uh the one and I think I don't know if the language would change any, but I guess it's just a matter of uh direct and legal to [0:52:02, 0:52:06]: draft um a second one for the federal level. [0:52:07, 0:52:27]: Well, I think the second one's for the uh youth senior and youth c um um the first one is for facility cultural arts. One for the cultural art center and one for the youth and youth uh center. Youth and adult center. Uh youth and senior and senior center. Well w hold on. One would be for both of'em to the federal level and then one would be just for the a cultural arts center for the state. [0:52:27, 0:52:39]: All right, then we need to make sure we got the right resolution. I write uh motion for this then. Make sure it's in the record properly. Because I'm not sure whether well, how about this? Miss Miss uh Clerk. [0:52:39, 0:52:42]: What what do you have what do you understand is the most important? [0:52:45, 0:53:05]: Resolution that was presented by Attorney Berry is for the resolution as recommended by Senator Jones to meet with the delegation for the Cultural Arts Center. But there and also City Manager has also requested that. [0:53:05, 0:53:10]: that the governing body whoever attends National League City meets with the elected [0:53:21, 0:53:25]: about federal funding for the [0:53:27, 0:53:28]: That's correct. [0:53:28, 0:53:48]: Okay, the now a couple of things here I wanna mention. The mi information that uh Mr Gardner mentioned, I don't know if that needs to be part of the motion. I don't think that's part of the motion. That's just I don't know if that re necessarily part of the motion. Yeah, that's that's information for us in reference to what he's doing when we go to Last League of Cities. It it will be noted in in the [0:53:48, 0:53:58]: The minutes I would recommend that uh Mr. Berry bring that one to the February thirteenth meeting so that you can adopt that one separately. [0:53:59, 0:54:10]: All right. Now what Ms. Gar um Barber mentioned is a is a so that needs to be added. I think that that's needs to be added to the amendment to the actual motion so we have it clear. [0:54:11, 0:54:15]: She she added that but that but the original motion was by Mr Thomas. [0:54:16, 0:54:28]: I was including it in the notes of the minutes when we have when I That's okay. I can bring forward a second motion and it would only include just federal funding for the youth and senior center. [0:54:29, 0:54:40]: So we'll make it clean. It'll be clean. Okay. So otherwise we're going with one one motion right now. So all in favor of that motion. Okay, point of order. What? [0:54:40, 0:55:00]: I I want to make sure we get this right because it's extremely important. Yeah, understand. If if she's going to do one just for the youth and senior center, then we need to do three. One for the Culture Art Center to the federal government, one to the Cultural Arts Center to the federal government. [0:55:00, 0:55:20]: government and then one to the state government for the cultural arts center. Or we could do both for the federal and the state on one. But otherwise we need to send one to the cult to the federal government for the cultural arts too, not just the um not just the uh youth and senior center. [0:55:21, 0:55:31]: All right, Mr. Garner, you came to the mic. You have some guidance here. I I I think I think uh uh Councilmember Alexander got it. I think when he mentioned it the first time, yes, it's having one specific for our state. [0:55:32, 0:55:40]: That has the Cultural Art Center and a separate one that goes to our federal, it has cultural art center, cultural performance and [0:55:40, 0:55:49]: The boys and girls. And to me, that's two separate motions. So that's two and and t just two resolutions. No. Oh, two resolutions. But but not two separate motions. This one. [0:55:50, 0:55:55]: All right. Well the the original motion was made by you, Mr. Thomas. [0:55:57, 0:55:58]: Talk. [0:55:58, 0:56:00]: So moved. [0:56:00, 0:56:20]: I say I heard something in my ear. Miss Barber's Miss Barber second Miss Barber second that I saw her hand. Oh I thought we'd go back on the but no we I think we had we had amended. No no well go back. That's fine. Miss Barber's second that [0:56:20, 0:56:40]: Amendment on that option. This is hilarious. Okay. All in favor of motion, please indicate. It's important. It's important. Miss Barber seconded. All right. Okay. Okay. We never withdrew the person. Never a dull moment. All right. Uh what we had to add next was it dealing with the [0:56:40, 0:56:47]: The Cannon Road and the zoning to issue in Mr. Berry, based on our conversation earlier with our second session, Mr. Berry, you're gonna address this, please? [0:56:55, 0:56:59]: Um did we skip item number twelve, Mayor? [0:57:00, 0:57:07]: No, I I I added uh the cannon road and the actual zoning issue right behind the resolution piece. Then we go to item number twelve. [0:57:08, 0:57:08]: Okay. [0:57:09, 0:57:10]: That's where I added it. [0:57:10, 0:57:11]: Yeah, we'll boy it, sir. [0:57:12, 0:57:19]: Good evening again, Mayor and Council. Uh I know that this issue has been a a hot topic of concern to to many residents. [0:57:20, 0:57:40]: Um particularly in council member Alexander's district. All I'd like to say at this point, Mayor and Council, is that this issue is under legal review right now, and hopefully we'll be able to provide a more substantive uh review or or advice going forward. But at this point, I think it's best just to say that this is under l legal review at this point. But we do acknowledge the sense of the remote. [0:57:40, 0:57:57]: sensitivity and the concerns of of constituents in the city. Okay. Thank you, sir. Appreciate that. Thank you very much. On that note, uh council consideration on the condition of East Atlanta Road, Mount Zion Parkway, Old Cony's Road, Spivey Road, and Walt Stevens Road. Uh Mr. Dissis Aaron, please. [0:58:03, 0:58:23]: Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. For the record, I also like to let Council know that I know you probably received as many complaints as we have about the condition of Rock Quarry and North Henry Boulevard. So that is in the process of being repaired. We we were waiting for GDOT to issue us the permits since that is a state road. So as soon as we [0:58:23, 0:58:30]: we get better weather, that will be repaired. But one of the things we yes, sir. [0:58:31, 0:58:51]: Excuse me, one second. Oh, you you're talking about where it where it intersects right there where the where you gotta go over the heels? Okay, sir. So that will be repaired shortly. But one of the things we we wanted to bring to your attention with with the annexation, staff has been inundated with a lot of phone calls and references to these roles. [0:58:51, 0:59:11]: And other roads about the conditions of the roads and things of that sort. You know, we've been out uh fixing potholes on Malt Stevens, Old Conyers, East Atlanta. In fact, before I came to the meeting tonight, we had a C-Click fix on Mount Zion Parkway in reference to the potholes on that road. So we're just coming to you tonight to ask for [0:59:11, 0:59:24]: guidance or recommendations or approval for us, we we're gonna eventually have to do something. These are major roles. We I know it wasn't identified in our spLs because it wasn't a part of the city, but [0:59:25, 0:59:25]: What? [0:59:25, 0:59:40]: you know, w the patent is not working. So and and it's just phone call after phone call. You know, a lot of people assume that January first everything was just magically gonna happen, you know, whatever they was calling the county for that the county didn't [0:59:41, 0:59:50]: take care of or make provisions to repair that the city was gonna automatically do it. But we we just been getting a lot of phone calls about about these roads. [0:59:50, 1:00:10]: Well I would think you couldn't you prioritize with the the phone calls and the areas and and then and go out and re and this is potholes this uh spot uh repairing or you talking about total repaving, period. Uh I would recommend if you do anything that you resurface the roads because Well don't don't we have to have won't we have to do that through the LMIG and we have to get contractors out to to rate everything and this [1:00:10, 1:00:25]: Yes, sir. Uh what you would do is if you approve this, approve for us to do something to these roads, then we'll bid it out. It'll be a separate project outside of the LME to uh repair these roads. Sir. [1:00:25, 1:00:45]: Okay, all right, good deal. Yes, Ms. Alexander, go ahead. One of the things that we did learn at class is there's another level of LMIG reimbursement. There's a certification that the city can get now that will actually increase what the LMIG contribution is on a yearly basis. So we're pursuing all of those. [1:00:45, 1:01:05]: And also in February we will be updating our our road mileage for LMIG. We won't get it this year, but next year we will get additional funds because of the annexation. We'll submit that list to the state. But uh like I said, the issue we're we're dealing with now is just the residents and [1:01:04, 1:01:15]: their concerns about Well I understand. Are you aware of the second tier? There's another tier that you can apply for a certification for to get more money yearly on the L me. [1:01:15, 1:01:35]: Yes, sir, there's other avenues to pursue. Yes, sir. Okay, so we we certainly need to do that to be able to up that portion. And then I saw President Bu Biden in um Baltimore yesterday. They gave away four billion dollars for a new tunnel because all of the infrastructure money is out there. What are we doing to get more? [1:01:35, 1:01:40]: He's going around he's in Pennsylvania today handing out [1:01:41, 1:01:48]: Couple more billion dollars. What are we doing to get more money?'Cause the money's going, it's out there, so [1:01:49, 1:01:55]: How much more I I know originally you said you were applying for something through the state, not sure what that didn't come through, but [1:01:56, 1:02:00]: What uh were there additional applications that we can file, Mr. Gardner? [1:02:00, 1:02:20]: Economic someone somebody tell me. We are working with our grant administrators to reach out and identify any potential grants that the city is eligible for. Although there are a lot of funds available sometimes, but it's you gotta qualify in order to receive those just because the money's available for for infrastructure they have. [1:02:20, 1:02:21]: Yeah. [1:02:21, 1:02:33]: things are tied that are tied to it and you gotta meet those qualifications in order to receive those funds. So we're we're searching all avenues with Ms. Russell. [1:02:33, 1:02:50]: to identify different funds so that we can do some projects that we've been working on. And to follow up on that one that one section right there at Burke Street that Mr. Blount men mentioned, no pothole filling on that. That needs to be cut out. That section need to be cut out. [1:02:50, 1:03:02]: and replace because if you fill that in like a regular pothole, it's just gonna come back. At North Henry and Rock Quarry? No, the one at Bank at Burke Street, right there at Burke Street and North Henry Boulevard. [1:03:02, 1:03:16]: It's a big pothole there now. That's are you Burke Street and Yes. Yeah, we just resurfaced uh Burke Street. But it's on it's on North Henry Boulevard, but it's right there when you come out from Burke Street. There's a huge pothole down there. [1:03:17, 1:03:18]: Two people. [1:03:18, 1:03:19]: Right. Mm-hmm. [1:03:20, 1:03:23]: On the up on the on the on the side facing [1:03:23, 1:03:43]: It's right there in front of Country Cooking Depot, between Country Cooking Depot and uh Burke Street. There's a huge pothole there now. Okay, I'll I'll check. I'm not aware of that, but so um but the one I was talking about that we've been working with G Dot on is the uh Rock Court and North Henry Boulevard. Yeah, and then that's what I'm saying. And w if they're big. [1:03:43, 1:03:44]: Yeah. [1:03:44, 1:03:53]: Patch putting them patching is not good. They need that's those sections need to be cut out and then you need to to do it that way. I'll I'll check that tomorrow. So [1:03:54, 1:04:14]: Ms. Gantt go ahead, please. Thank you. Um so I too have received and have seen on Nextdoor and on social media complaints in regards to the area. Um we have, I've addressed the issue by stating we just acquired um a lot of these roads. And so it is gonna take some time. But I do think that Walt Stevens [1:04:14, 1:04:34]: Is very important. Um, it is a everyone knows it. We talk about it all the time. Councilman Alexander mentions it. Um when the interstate is packed up, everybody's coming right through Walt Stevens. And that road now is just so bad. It should be a [1:04:34, 1:04:35]: priority to our city. [1:04:36, 1:04:48]: Mayor? Yeah. Um and it also happens to be and even that over off of Spidey Road. And I think that's because when they did that road construction on Spear Road. They were not. [1:04:48, 1:04:56]: All the traffic, all the trucks, everything went onto Spivy Road. But I so what is it that we can do right now? [1:04:58, 1:05:18]: Besides patching,'cause we've pa you guys have patched, you've filled up potholes and they're right back. I mean, I've seen it. One month is filled, two months later, a month later, is right back. And it's becoming a a problem where people are talking about their tires being burst. It's becoming a major, major problem. So we need to [1:05:18, 1:05:24]: To fix that as soon as possible. And I know that the only solution to that is resurfacing. [1:05:24, 1:05:36]: uh how can we get make that a priority? Are you gonna go back and revisit now that these other properties are annexed and we're gonna re pro pri prioritize what should be resurfaced first? [1:05:36, 1:05:56]: See, one of one of the things is that we're encountering is that the county didn't have a resurfacing program like the city, especially in the subdivisions. So those are where we're getting like Century Oak, I think, off Davidson Davis Road. That's we've been in there. There's a lot of work that's required in those is [1:05:56, 1:06:08]: It's just we're gonna have to prioritize and the reason why we're talking about these these are major thoroughfares. You know, old Conyers, everybody complains all the time'cause you're going out to the school. [1:06:09, 1:06:26]: And so it's always that under the previous S D S the county maintained the road, even though portions were in the city. So we're always getting complaints. We're out to Maze Road now on those conyers. So it's just some things are gonna have to be done to these roads. It [1:06:27, 1:06:32]: All right. I'm sorry. [1:06:32, 1:06:37]: Well, I I wanna know what is it that you want us to do tonight besides task you to [1:06:38, 1:06:48]: to approve tasking you to try to see how we can get these things done taken care of. How d what is it that r you're requesting of us tonight? [1:06:51, 1:07:11]: So this was mainly for this discussion. You know, we're gonna have a uh L Mid coming up and we wanna be able to intersperse some of these roles within our current list. You know, we know there'll this will probably leap some other roles that are already been identified, but these are [1:07:11, 1:07:14]: There's some major issues and concerns that that need to be addressed. [1:07:14, 1:07:17]: Okay. Ms. Barber, go ahead please. [1:07:17, 1:07:18]: I wanted to make a motion. [1:07:19, 1:07:28]: But I'll let Councilman Alexander. Go ahead then, Councilman Alexander. Uh what I wanna do and since we got Clayton Card here. [1:07:29, 1:07:47]: We're not gonna let the county off the hook. You can put this in the article. They turned these over to us, right? In bad shape. The commissioners are still responsible for these areas. Even though they're in the city limits, the majority of the funding goes to them. [1:07:47, 1:08:02]: We they should not be able to just throw up their hands and say, here, take this subdivision that need 90% of the roads resurfaced. We need to go to the table with them and say, listen, you turn this over to us and disrepair. [1:08:02, 1:08:22]: We need some assistance because again, 90% of the funding goes to them. So we can't take over roles that haven't been maintained for a decade and be like, we're gonna fix them ourselves. They need to still be at the table with us, assisting us, getting these roles up, not just turning them over to us. [1:08:22, 1:08:42]: uh in district spare. And in regards to Rock Quarry Road, I understand Rock Quarry Road supposed the widening is actually supposed to start this year according to the county if everything goes well. So we need to have those discussions with them. But you know, district four, district four and district two are in [1:08:42, 1:08:52]: Stockbridge and then the summer district five now. We gotta have discussions with them to say listen, we need help to fix this, right? Okay. [1:08:52, 1:09:01]: Okay. Miss Bro, you want to do a motion yesterday? We're still in discussion. Yes, sir, we are. You have you have a comment, sir? Yes, I asked you a while ago. I didn't hear you, sir. Go ahead, please. [1:09:02, 1:09:22]: Uh Mr uh Aaron, if we could just take those roles also and I agree with Mr. Alexander's that if we could s enter into uh um you know, some type of um agreement, you know, some type of uh agreement with the county when it comes to those roles that just came into the city, if [1:09:22, 1:09:32]: that can happen. I know that um you know that's gonna be attached in itself, but if you could when the new L Made come out or whenever it's coming out [1:09:32, 1:09:46]: Uh I wouldn't expect you to do anything less than what you've been doing is being as analyzing the roles to the what's priority and what's you know, what what are the priority roles and if that if w if some something on here [1:09:47, 1:10:01]: supersede something that we've already looked at, then we just have to deal with that in the future. But whatever's priority that's in the city is what we're probably looking at. And also agree with Mr Alexander that we have to do a better job with with patchwork because [1:10:02, 1:10:03]: covering [1:10:04, 1:10:08]: is not doing it. But they have to dig out and then fill in. [1:10:08, 1:10:14]: Because if if you don't, you're gonna crumble it back up and you're gonna y y you don't fix a pothole by just [1:10:15, 1:10:23]: You know, putting a patch over the top of everything. You have to dig out and then fill in. I mean, I'm not you know how to you know about that more than I do, so [1:10:24, 1:10:27]: I'm just double check. Uh Mr Thomas, do you have any comments at all, sir? [1:10:28, 1:10:30]: No, I think the mass cell made is [1:10:31, 1:10:33]: Okay. All right, good deal. Back to you, Miss Barber. [1:10:34, 1:10:35]: I like to make a motion. [1:10:36, 1:10:50]: Okay. Um I motion that we task staff with um beginning the discussions with the county in regards to uh road restruct road resurfacing. [1:10:50, 1:11:01]: for especially those areas we just annexed. I want to approve staff's recommendation to resurface [1:11:01, 1:11:05]: New roads that have been identified already by [1:11:05, 1:11:06]: Mr. Aaron. [1:11:06, 1:11:08]: That are now within our city limits. [1:11:09, 1:11:10]: That's East Atlanta Road. [1:11:11, 1:11:13]: Mount Zion Parkway. [1:11:14, 1:11:15]: Old Conyers Road? [1:11:16, 1:11:17]: Spivey Road. [1:11:18, 1:11:19]: While Stevens Road. [1:11:20, 1:11:23]: and the intersection of North Henry and Rock Quarry Roads. [1:11:24, 1:11:32]: Or is there a second to that motion? Second. Mr. Elzan second that now I need to go back to the clerk. Did you understand and get all that? [1:11:34, 1:11:35]: Okay. [1:11:35, 1:11:40]: You might have to speak a little louder. She wants to make sure she understands, got the whole motion. I want to test staff. [1:11:40, 1:11:43]: with having the discussion with the county. [1:11:44, 1:11:45]: In regards to [1:11:45, 1:11:48]: Road restructur road resurfacing. [1:11:49, 1:11:51]: On those rows. [1:11:52, 1:11:54]: that are now in the city limits. [1:11:55, 1:11:58]: that were recently annexed into the city limits. Right. [1:12:04, 1:12:05]: All right. [1:12:06, 1:12:26]: All right, so that you make that you clarify that motion is second by Mr. Alexander. Is there any further discussion? Yes. Go ahead, please. I I would I wish that the the the emotion would have just said that we would seek to enter an IGA with with the uh with with the county pertaining to those. [1:12:26, 1:12:40]: newly annexed roads because they can discuss it all day, but we want w we're prepared to enter intergovernment agreement on the on what it's gonna take to repair the roads. I would like to see that happening sometime in the near future versus [1:12:40, 1:12:47]: You know, just I I would like to see that into the uh discussion, uh to into the uh motion, if possible. [1:12:48, 1:12:57]: Well I go back to uh Miss Barber, but I would imagine that through the discussion we can come to that point with the discussion on referencing I and G A. But Miss Barber, if you want to make that change, go ahead, please. [1:12:58, 1:12:58]: Um [1:12:58, 1:13:08]: Well my concern is I don't want a IGA to hold up the progress of resurfacing the roads that have already been identified. [1:13:08, 1:13:10]: I do want staff. [1:13:10, 1:13:13]: To begin the discussions with the county. [1:13:14, 1:13:15]: In regards to [1:13:17, 1:13:35]: Coming to an am meanable uh agreement. Okay. But but that how how would we pa how would we have an agreement with an I without an IGA, how can funds be dispensed by both parties without one? [1:13:35, 1:13:52]: Well like I said earlier, I think if we have the discussion we eventually we'll get to the point of the IG. But she would have to change that motion. She wants to do that. Miss Hostem by please. Miss Gang, go ahead, please. I'm gonna be honest, I think this is gonna be a mayor council to commissioners type of communication. It's gonna have to be uh [1:13:53, 1:14:03]: We're gonna have to talk to those we're gonna have to talk to the county commissioners and they're gonna have to talk, you know, and the city manager and the county manager are gonna have to talk. But I know for a fact [1:14:03, 1:14:11]: that you know, the county manager can't do anything without the approval of those the without the count the county commissioners. [1:14:11, 1:14:16]: who are allocated funds p in their districts. So we're gonna have to [1:14:17, 1:14:18]: Meet with them. [1:14:18, 1:14:36]: Certainly we got to we we've got to do our part. Okay. This is not gonna be just a a task of just uh city manager. It's not it's not gonna work. So motion was made when seconded. So all favor of the motion please indicate. Okay, it's if approval. All five. Fantastic. Thank you, Mr. Aaron. [1:14:38, 1:14:58]: Alrighty. So item number uh item number down the Georgia Hispanic Heritages was tabled for now. So I'll move on to announcements and upcoming meetings and events. Okay, so Main Street Advisory Board meeting the second Friday of each month at 9 a.m. City Hall Levi meeting room February 10th. [1:14:58, 1:15:18]: City Council meeting second Monday of each month, 6 p.m. City Hall, Council Chambers, February 13th. Youth Council meeting, 6 30, second Monday of each month, City Hall, Levi Meeting Room, February 13th. Citywide Development Authority meeting, second Tuesday of each month, 6 p.m. City Hall, Levi Meeting Room, February 14th. [1:15:18, 1:15:38]: Downtown Development Authority meeting 6 p.m. by way of Zoom, third Tuesday of each month. By way of Zoom, February 21st. New council advisory committee meeting 6 30 p.m. Second excuse me third Tuesday of each month and Levi Meeting Room City Hall February 21st. Planning Commission meeting 6:30 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers fourth Thursday of each. [1:15:38, 1:15:58]: Month February 23rd. City Council Work Session meeting last Tuesday of each month, 6 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers, February 28th. There's a continued salute to veterans. Please forward pictures of veterans, including name, branch, rank, years of service to Councilman Thomas. Presents a special tribute to our local veterans. Pictures should be submitted to Rob. [1:15:58, 1:16:18]: Roslin Rawls at R Rawls at the City of Stockbridge dash G A dot G O V. Thank you for your service. Bingo is back. Councilman John Blount on Wednesday, February 22nd. More information to follow. Please contact Rosland Rawls at 678-833-3348 for more information. [1:16:17, 1:16:30]: Save the date, join Councilman Thomas for the twelfth annual African American Heritage Celebration, Saturday, February twenty fifth. Says more details to follow. You have anything to add on that, Councilman Thomas, thus far? [1:16:32, 1:16:45]: Uh not at this time. Um I will say that it is a tribute to um fraternities and sororities for their uh service to communities. [1:16:46, 1:17:06]: Fantastic. Okay. Please join me for the monthly meet the mayor on Monday, February 27th, 10 a.m. to uh to noon. Please contact Roslin Rawls to schedule an in-person appointment at R Rawls at city of Stockbridge-G-A.gov. Call 678-833-3348 to make that appointment. [1:17:06, 1:17:26]: Save the date, join Councilman Alexander for the annual Women's History Month celebration, Sunday, March 5th, Sunday, March 5th at the Murrell Management Conference Center. More details to follow on that as well. And then my particular comments here, of course, we're still in a pandemic, so obviously COVID-19 is still out there. Make sure you take your flu shot. [1:17:26, 1:17:46]: Shots you want to be healthy and good wellness in this aspect of vaccinations, the booster shots, please take those. Henry County Health Department, Monday to Friday, 9 a.m. to 11:30 a.m. or 1 p.m. to 2:30 p.m. Okay, and also COVID testings at Red Hawk Field Monday, Wednesday, and Friday at 9 a.m. 3 p.m. Of course, you can get testing at [1:17:46, 1:18:06]: And boosted shots almost anywhere in the Atlanta metro area. Startbridge Police Department had an outstanding recognition and promotion ceremony just yesterday at Merle Manders Conference Center, the very first time that's ever happened in the city with our new police department. So for the oath of office, there were three new uh assigned officers that were given the oath of office that joined the department. [1:18:06, 1:18:26]: The fourth quarter FY twenty twenty two employee recognition was was uh completed. Four police officers were were received a uh life service life saving award for two different separate incidents of ready saved lives of s citizens in the in the community. One incident happened on july thirteenth of twenty twenty two and the other one november twenty third. So [1:18:25, 1:18:45]: So we got some police officers out there saving people's lives. This is fantastic. Five officers were promoted to senior police officer. Two officers were promoted to detectives. Three officers were promoted to corporals. Five officers promoted to sergeants, and four officers promoted to lieutenants. And so it's a fantastic activity, and I'm pretty sure they'll have this routinely. [1:18:45, 1:19:03]: maybe twice a year or at least once a year in this promotion aspect uh with the police department. They're doing great things. And we attended this council and attended Cities United Conference in downtown Atlanta last week. And this is an annual event and it was well attended. We had a great time learning a lot of different things. [1:19:03, 1:19:23]: inter interfacing with the legislative body, which is called some of the actions this evening that we've had. And I mentioned earlier in the conversation that the youth council our youth council was there and they participated quite well and had a great job, did had a great time and learning and and interacting with the legislative uh process, legislators themselves. On that note, we've already had an executive session, so council I need a motion to agenda. Sir [1:19:23, 1:19:29]: Yes sir. If I could real quick, they said crime was down sixty-five percent. [1:19:29, 1:19:37]: That's correct. They did say that. That's a great thing. We got a great we got a great police department as well. On that note, uh need a motion to end our uh meeting, please. [1:19:38, 1:19:47]: Time. Miss Barber Mosso moved. Is there a second? Miss Gantt second. And all favor, please indicate. The meeting is adjourned. God bless you all. Take care. Thanks. [1:19:50, 1:19:51]: This is the prime was down.

--- title: Downtown Development Authority date: 2023-01-10 source: 2023-01-10_Downtown_Development_Authority.wav --- [0:00:03, 0:00:10]: Hello everyone, this is Roger Custon. We are starting the January meeting for the Stockbridge Downtown Development Authority. [0:00:11, 0:00:17]: Um we will start off with a roll call. So Bob, will you please set a call roll? [0:00:18, 0:00:20]: Uh Roger Custon. I'm present. [0:00:21, 0:00:21]: Oh. [0:00:21, 0:00:22]: Fran Merritt. [0:00:24, 0:00:25]: And merit private. [0:00:25, 0:00:26]: Uh huh. [0:00:26, 0:00:28]: Uh Bob Swagert, I'm here. [0:00:28, 0:00:29]: Um [0:00:29, 0:00:30]: Maxwell Sears. [0:00:33, 0:00:36]: Uh and uh councilman Elton Alexander. [0:00:40, 0:00:40]: Okay. [0:00:41, 0:01:01]: All right, so we'll the record shows that we do not have a quorum, but we will proceed with the meeting. Um I since we don't have a quorum, I'm gonna um skip the um uh first two items on the agenda, which is to approve today's meeting agenda and the meeting minutes. We'll come back to that once we have a quorum. [0:01:01, 0:01:21]: Um, but uh I'll just go ahead and start with the uh opening remarks. Um first I want to say I want to thank the city of Stockbridge for the volunteer appreciation event that was held in December. Um I thought that was very gracious of the city to uh recognize uh the the the work that's done by uh [0:01:21, 0:01:39]: this volunteer board and all the volunteer boards that serve the city of Stockbridge. So um thank you for doing that. Um next I was going to mention that we have a new economic development director, but uh he is here in person. So uh let me turn the floor over to you, Mr. Alons, and you can say hello and uh [0:01:39, 0:01:41]: Tell us a little bit about where uh your background. [0:01:42, 0:01:51]: Thank you so much, Mr. Chair. Um good evening, everyone. I'm very excited to be here. Certainly very excited to be back in Georgia. Um I [0:01:52, 0:01:57]: Look forward to working with you all. Um as far as my background, uh most recently [0:01:57, 0:02:01]: I was the economic development manager for the city of Wilton Manors, which is [0:02:02, 0:02:07]: A small municipality outside of Fort Lauderdale, a little over eleven thousand residents. [0:02:08, 0:02:15]: Before that, I spent about three years um in Orlando working for the city of Orlando as an economic development coordinator. [0:02:15, 0:02:28]: And prior to that, uh believe it or not, I was here um in Georgia uh working for the Department of Community Affairs, doing some affordable housing policy work and some management analyst work as well. [0:02:28, 0:02:47]: Uh as I've said before, I'm very excited to to be back um in the state and I look forward to uh working with uh the DDA. Uh I know that uh downtown uh development is a focus um and it's certainly a focus of our department as well. So I look forward to working with you all as we look to um [0:02:48, 0:02:55]: put uh downtown Stockbridge on the map and definitely uh take on some uh redevelopment projects. [0:02:56, 0:03:16]: Very good. Thank you for that. If it's all right with everyone, we'll just go around the room and introduce ourselves. So I'm Roger Custon. I'm both uh uh resident of the city of Stockbridge. I also uh my partner and I own a business uh on the in the main street and downtown district uh called on Beautiful. And uh, you know, I'm just introduced. [0:03:16, 0:03:23]: Interested to do what I can to uh help the development of the downtown district and ultimately to uh [0:03:24, 0:03:36]: uh bring in uh quality foot traffic to the downtown district. So I'm really glad you're here and I really appreciate the work that's done with this group as well as Main Street and the city staff. So thank you. [0:03:36, 0:03:40]: Um I'll turn it over to uh Bob. You want to say hello? [0:03:40, 0:03:46]: Um, I'm Bob Swigard. I'm retired. I'm a resident of Stockbridge for about twenty two years. [0:03:47, 0:03:56]: And uh like Roger, I'm also interested in in uh revitalizing and developing uh uh the downtown area of of Stockbridge and um [0:03:58, 0:03:59]: Look forward to working with you. [0:04:01, 0:04:03]: Great. Uh Fran, you wanna go next? [0:04:04, 0:04:06]: Yes, absolutely. Thank you, uh Cherry. [0:04:06, 0:04:13]: Good evening and it's so nice to meet you. I didn't get and and and please forgive me, I didn't get your first name. What is your first name again? [0:04:14, 0:04:16]: So it's Kim, K I M. [0:04:17, 0:04:20]: Thank you, thank you, thank you. I wrote something down and listen. [0:04:21, 0:04:24]: But I'm glad I got it. I got it together now. But [0:04:24, 0:04:26]: Um, family is resident for [0:04:27, 0:04:29]: eighteen years, I believe we might seen this year. [0:04:30, 0:04:31]: Um proud homeowner. [0:04:32, 0:04:37]: Um and planning on um establishing my mediation business in the future with the city of Southbridge. [0:04:38, 0:04:42]: just to give you a little tidbit of that. Um currently working in telecom industry. [0:04:43, 0:04:43]: Um [0:04:44, 0:04:49]: And listen, I am um definitely uh wanted to get more involved. [0:04:49, 0:04:52]: within about local government and [0:04:52, 0:04:55]: um being you know more involved in specifics and of course [0:04:56, 0:04:57]: being a part of this board. [0:04:57, 0:04:59]: And being um [0:04:59, 0:05:07]: I guess instrumental in revitalizing and just beautifying the city of Stockbridge is something that I'm very excited about. [0:05:07, 0:05:12]: Um and I just love to be a part of that where we just really grow. So I look forward to working with you. [0:05:13, 0:05:14]: Same. [0:05:16, 0:05:36]: Great. And um here have you had the chance to uh meet with Mr. Lawrence? I don't know if you know each other. Okay, very good. And um you've probably caught on. Um at least I prefer to be on a first name basis. Uh so you know, but I certainly respect uh your preference. Feel free to call me Kim. I [0:05:36, 0:05:37]: I [0:05:37, 0:05:57]: That that works for me. Very good. Well, we really appreciate you being here and thank you for joining tonight on such short notice. Um, let's uh just a moment if if y'all will uh uh Mr. Councilman Alexander um asked me to resend the the link and um Vanessa if you know of a [0:05:57, 0:06:04]: a trick to send the Zoom participant link to someone via [0:06:04, 0:06:06]: Text um [0:06:06, 0:06:14]: Please let me know how to do that because I all I know to do through this. I will send it to Councilman Alexander right now. Okay. All right. Very good. Thank you. [0:06:16, 0:06:36]: And um so he should be joining shortly. Um it's all right, so let me move on to the next item. And uh um if you you know you're absolutely welcome to stay for the rest of the meeting, but um or if there's anything you want to share right away that you know you you want us to be mindful of as far as what's going on with the city before we let you go. [0:06:36, 0:06:41]: know there is an item on the agenda if you want to cover that now happy to hear from you if there's anything else you want to share. [0:06:42, 0:06:46]: Mm not really. I don't really have a lot of um updates uh other than [0:06:46, 0:07:00]: I look forward to working with this group and I know that Kira has uh some Main Street updates that she'll be sharing. Um other than that, I look forward to um our meeting and I look forward to uh working with you all. And thank you so much for what you do. [0:07:01, 0:07:06]: Great. Thank you. Thanks for being here. All right. Thank you. Have a good night. All right. [0:07:07, 0:07:25]: All right, uh so there's a couple of uh just updates I wanted to share with you. Um I did complete the uh annual immigration and reform statement with the Georgia Department of Audits. I also sent the link to each of you as I was doing it this year. I I realized I was the only person who was registered with. [0:07:25, 0:07:45]: um audits to respond to that report. And I just thought, you know, as a backup, it would be good to have somebody else in case for whatever reason I'm unable to complete that. It's just an annual statement that we're complying with immigration law. Basically there's three questions and I took screenshots to make sure if anybody else [0:07:45, 0:08:05]: had to answer those questions uh they they knew at least what my response has been in the past years um the next item that's going to be due so that we've got a little bit more runway on this next item which is the uh 2022 um arf annual um authority [0:08:04, 0:08:24]: um report of financial and I'm not I'm kind of butchering the full name of it but this is a report that's required by the Department of Community Affairs for all authorities. It's both a financial report as well as um a uh contact list for the uh board members and [0:08:24, 0:08:44]: And it's a little bit more extensive. It's about 10 pages of information that's input. Thankfully, at least in past years, it has copied over the previous year's information. So if you know if the members have stayed the same, then we're able to bring. [0:08:44, 0:08:55]: that over. The main thing I'm waiting on is I'll need to work with Barber on that because it does require a lot of financial information and it's the full report for 2022. [0:08:55, 0:08:59]: Uh hold on. I just got uh notices of public inv okay. [0:08:59, 0:09:00]: And I'll say that's [0:09:01, 0:09:02]: Okay. [0:09:03, 0:09:05]: This is from Councilman Alexander. [0:09:07, 0:09:08]: Right. [0:09:10, 0:09:14]: Let me see if he's on the uh attendees. If if [0:09:15, 0:09:16]: Oh, there he is right there. [0:09:17, 0:09:19]: Let me bring in to panelists. [0:09:21, 0:09:24]: He says it was a private, um [0:09:25, 0:09:25]: Might. [0:09:26, 0:09:28]: Yes, um [0:09:30, 0:09:40]: I just promoted him to panelist. So uh councilman, you should be able to um see and hear us. Oh, he's joining in now. All right. [0:09:42, 0:09:57]: Yeah, I was a little confused about it. I kept getting it look pulling the links and the link with a public link. So yeah. That's that's another way in. That's a it's a side door. Okay. So welcome. Thanks for joining. And um [0:09:57, 0:09:58]: And I [0:09:58, 0:09:58]: No. [0:10:02, 0:10:04]: Are you able able to hear me still? [0:10:04, 0:10:24]: I can hear you, Nelia. Okay, great. Yeah, I accidentally hit my own mute button, mute button. Um all right, so with with uh councilman, we were just uh actually Mr. Kim Alons joined the meeting briefly just to introduce himself and we did a round of introductions. So uh thank you to council for filling that position. Uh [0:10:24, 0:10:40]: Um, and I was just doing a few of the um chairman's updates um since we didn't have a quorum to vote on the uh agenda and the meeting minutes. So I'll finish that and then we'll circle back to the first agenda item so that we know that we have a quorum. [0:10:40, 0:11:00]: So I was mentioned mentioning that we um are the next item to report to complete is the uh and uh the annual AARF report. Um the other two items that I wanted to mention is um uh that uh we have one, potentially two board. [0:11:00, 0:11:20]: So, you know, we've uh with uh when Samiqua left uh the DDA several months ago, that created a vacancy. The other potential vacancy is uh Mr. Maxwell Sears, who has not joined, and I've I've been unable to read. [0:11:19, 0:11:39]: Reach him after several attempts. So I'm gonna ask for the board's opinion on whether the DDA would consider that to be an abandonment of position. I did reach out to our attorney as far as, you know, what's the legal basis for how to handle something like this. And he said there's nothing really written in the law. [0:11:39, 0:11:58]: And it's not addressed in our bylaws. So it would ultimately be the city council's decision as to whether or not to reappoint a backfill for that position. But I figured that the DDA should at least express an opinion to the city council as to whether we consider that. [0:11:59, 0:12:02]: uh an an abandonment of office is an essential one. [0:12:03, 0:12:23]: So those are the updates I was gonna um I wanted to share with you all. So I will let's circle back to the uh call to order items and uh approve the rest of today's meeting agenda. So um I'll go ahead and make a motion to approve uh the meeting agenda as uh sent out last week via email. [0:12:27, 0:12:30]: Thank you, Fran. Uh any discussion on the agenda? [0:12:33, 0:12:39]: All right, let's uh all those in favor of approving today's agenda, please uh raise your hand. [0:12:40, 0:13:00]: All right, very good. That passes. The next item is to approve the November 15th meeting minutes. And again, my apologies. I only sent that out to you all uh this afternoon. If that if you did not have a chance to review the meeting minutes, um we can [0:12:59, 0:13:14]: certainly uh choose to postpone that for the next meeting um if you want a little bit more time to review that um but we'll just i'll just leave it there and it open up for discussion if we want to consider approving the meeting minutes for november [0:13:17, 0:13:20]: You might have went much more time to review it. [0:13:21, 0:13:22]: I didn't hear you clearly, Fran. Go ahead. [0:13:24, 0:13:26]: I said I would like more time to review it. [0:13:26, 0:13:27]: Okay. [0:13:27, 0:13:33]: Um any other discussion regarding the uh approving of the the November meeting minutes? [0:13:36, 0:13:56]: Uh I guess the other point I would add is Vanessa, you had said that you you found a few typos that you wanted to correct. So um if you what we'll do is we'll work from the revised version that you send out. And if you wouldn't mind sending it out to the whole board. I will do it. Okay, great. Did you want me to do that going forward? [0:13:56, 0:14:05]: Roger, because normally I think I will do that. I think so. That kind of saves a step and because I I don't want to be the the holdup when when that occurs. [0:14:05, 0:14:06]: Oh, okay. [0:14:08, 0:14:12]: Just a moment, Barber is on now. Let's see. [0:14:13, 0:14:15]: Barber, can you hear us? [0:14:16, 0:14:36]: Yes, I can. All right. And Barber's joining us by vo phone today. Uh, so she does not have her uh the ability to have her camera on. So thanks for joining. Uh all right. So Barber, we had just uh we've completed a roll call. I've done the chairman's updates and [0:14:36, 0:14:42]: And uh we decided to postpone the uh vote on the approving the November meeting minutes. [0:14:43, 0:14:52]: Got it. So that brings us right up to your treasurer updates. So uh do you want me to go ahead and share the um the report that you [0:14:52, 0:14:54]: Gabe sent to us earlier. [0:14:54, 0:14:57]: Yes, and I do my best to try to uh [0:14:58, 0:14:58]: Read this. [0:14:59, 0:15:03]: Let me give me a just a moment to queue it up and I will [0:15:05, 0:15:06]: Actually we open it first. [0:15:07, 0:15:08]: Give me just a moment. [0:15:11, 0:15:12]: There it is. [0:15:15, 0:15:17]: Of course. [0:15:21, 0:15:21]: Okay. [0:15:24, 0:15:24]: [935.9, 942.8]: All right, if someone could confirm that you can see the screen, I've landed on the profit and loss page, Barber. [0:15:43, 0:15:43]: Yes. [0:15:45, 0:15:46]: Oh. [0:15:46, 0:15:48]: Is that the right one or do you want the other tab? [0:15:49, 0:15:52]: Yes, the profit and loss. Can you screw let me see if I can. [0:15:53, 0:15:54]: Okay, there we go. [0:15:54, 0:15:55]: Um [0:15:56, 0:15:58]: So November we just had two [0:15:59, 0:16:02]: We didn't meet last month, so I'm over November and December. [0:16:02, 0:16:03]: Um November we [0:16:03, 0:16:10]: had our regular recurring$40 Zoom expense as well as our membership to the Georgia Downtown Association. [0:16:11, 0:16:12]: Five hundred dollars. [0:16:13, 0:16:16]: For uh total expenses for the month of November, five hundred and forty. [0:16:17, 0:16:19]: And then in December we had um [0:16:21, 0:16:23]: А стратегік арт культур стаді. [0:16:24, 0:16:25]: Um [0:16:25, 0:16:26]: I'll forget the vendor edit. [0:16:27, 0:16:27]: The moment. [0:16:28, 0:16:33]: But that was two thousand nine hundred and seventy dollars for that study for MLK art cultural study. [0:16:34, 0:16:37]: And then we also uh had paid the [0:16:37, 0:16:39]: B for our logo design. [0:16:39, 0:16:40]: For twenty nine hundred. [0:16:41, 0:16:44]: as well as our again forty dollar recurring Zoom. [0:16:45, 0:16:50]: um expense for the month. So total December expenses five thousand nine hundred ten dollars. [0:16:51, 0:16:52]: For the year. [0:16:52, 0:16:55]: We had total income of forty five thousand. [0:16:55, 0:17:02]: twenty-five dollars, which is uh forty-five thousand grant income. Twenty-five dollars was a fee we received. [0:17:02, 0:17:03]: Um [0:17:04, 0:17:06]: Regarding the sale of that property. [0:17:06, 0:17:10]: The option fee. The option fee, that's what it's called. Mm-hmm. [0:17:10, 0:17:12]: And then total expenses for the year. [0:17:12, 0:17:16]: Seventeen thousand six hundred sixty dollars and ninety cents. [0:17:16, 0:17:18]: For a net star plus. [0:17:18, 0:17:22]: Twenty seven thousand three hundred sixty four dollars and ten cents. [0:17:24, 0:17:25]: Any questions? [0:17:27, 0:17:29]: Okay, then if we go to the balance sheet. [0:17:30, 0:17:31]: The other tab. [0:17:33, 0:17:34]: Are you able to see it? [0:17:35, 0:17:38]: Uh let me scroll. Not yet. [0:17:40, 0:17:42]: Okay. Can you scroll to the [0:17:43, 0:17:44]: Left, I think. [0:17:45, 0:17:48]: It's as far left as it goes. Let me carm up. [0:17:50, 0:17:50]: Is it not? [0:17:51, 0:17:52]: I can make it bigger. [0:17:54, 0:17:56]: Maybe make it smaller. Maybe that's what I mean. [0:17:56, 0:17:57]: Oh, okay. [0:17:58, 0:18:01]: Okay, I think I can still barely ooh oh no no. [0:18:02, 0:18:05]: I'm sorry guys. I'm on the sphone and I can hardly make out this. [0:18:07, 0:18:18]: All right. Okay. Well, I can see that uh enough. I can see that well enough to know that the first number is our facade grant,$114,669 and 65 cents. [0:18:19, 0:18:24]: And our uh uh checking account balance forty six thousand seven hundred dollars and fifty eight cents. [0:18:24, 0:18:27]: For total cash on hand as of the end of the year. [0:18:28, 0:18:30]: One hundred sixty one dollars, three hundred seventy. [0:18:31, 0:18:34]: Может сі вон тазен три семидоласін тварин три центс. [0:18:36, 0:18:37]: Um [0:18:38, 0:18:39]: We had a change in cash. [0:18:40, 0:18:43]: Um between november and December of fifty nine hundred. [0:18:43, 0:18:47]: And again, that's those three expenses there, the Zoom, the art study and the [0:18:48, 0:18:49]: Local design. [0:18:51, 0:18:53]: And we had two. [0:18:53, 0:18:54]: Um [0:18:55, 0:18:56]: anticipated expenses coming up. [0:18:57, 0:19:01]: Um, after month in and that is again Zoom forty dollars, which is monthly. [0:19:01, 0:19:08]: And then a two hundred dollar reimbursement to me for GDA membership, which Roger and I are going to [0:19:08, 0:19:09]: Resolve this month. [0:19:11, 0:19:14]: Any questions about our balance sheet, our cash on hand? [0:19:16, 0:19:17]: Future expenses. [0:19:20, 0:19:21]: Okay, that concludes my report. [0:19:23, 0:19:43]: Thank you, Barber. A couple of comments. The Rhyme and Reason payment, the logo design, and I briefed you on this prior to our meeting. I know you had paid the invoice, but I have not yet received the logos of the marketing package. I had gotten notice that there was something at City Hall for me. I went and picked it up. [0:19:43, 0:20:03]: Up today, but it was not the actual deliverable for the logo design. So I will now reach out to Rhyme and Reason just to get the actual deliverable of our new logos and um and I will share that with you all once we have that. Kira, you you you worked with that firm before, so I imagine that's something that they would. [0:20:03, 0:20:23]: sent to us electronically like some sort of a link or something like that where we can download the actual logo image files right yes it was like a a drop box kind of thing that they um set up and we were able to download all of the things that we needed. Very good okay well I will follow up on that piece. [0:20:22, 0:20:42]: The other piece I wanted to mention is uh, Barber, this is a significant um pending uh expense that's already been approved by the uh DDA, which was the market study that was done with the uh Georgia Tech Innovation Institute. And um they have not yet invoiced us for that, but uh [0:20:42, 0:20:48]: Um I don't have the exact amount, but it was somewhere around um [0:20:49, 0:20:54]: I want to say it was sixteen thousand dollars. Um, that was either the [0:20:54, 0:21:14]: Full amount or the gross amount or the net amount. I know they gave us a significant discount off of what wouldn't be the normal expense. Um, but um I can what I'll do is I'll follow up with you, Barber, on the exact amount that we signed off on. So that um I guess you might want to note that as an [0:21:14, 0:21:19]: expected expense. Yes. So we don't lose sight of it. So [0:21:21, 0:21:23]: Yes, thank you. [0:21:25, 0:21:45]: That's all I can think of and uh related to the uh oh I'm sorry, there's one more item that we were discussing before you came on, which is um uh I'll need to get with you to do the uh annual report with the Department of Community Affairs for the the financial report, the AARF. You might recall we worked on that together last year and it's just [0:21:45, 0:22:05]: just, you know, we have to refile that each year. We have to do that sometime before June. So I'll just need to set up like an hour with you. Now that we have these financial uh figures for the year end report, that's that's most of what I think I'll need, but I'll go through it and if there's any remaining items that I'll need your help with, um, I'll I'll schedule some time. [0:22:05, 0:22:06]: [1326.7, 1327.2]: Okay. [0:22:08, 0:22:16]: All right. Um then that brings us to I guess that any other questions or comments for um the financial report. [0:22:20, 0:22:24]: All right, and that brings us to the secretary updates. Bob, do you have anything for the group? [0:22:27, 0:22:27]: Uh no. [0:22:29, 0:22:35]: All right, and that brings us to Main Street Advisory Board updates and um [0:22:36, 0:22:39]: Barber, do you want any anything to lead with or do you want to turn it over to Kira? [0:22:40, 0:22:41]: Ah, we'll turn it over to Kira. [0:22:41, 0:22:43]: All right, we're gonna get it. [0:22:56, 0:22:59]: Mm. [0:23:08, 0:23:11]: Here um you're on mute. Um [0:23:17, 0:23:18]: I'm sorry. [0:23:20, 0:23:32]: That's all right. Um did did you have any updates for the Main Street? Yes, I do. Out there was Lisa on the um other line. I was trying to get a few numbers from her, so I'm sorry. Um [0:23:33, 0:23:35]: As far as um [0:23:35, 0:23:55]: The Main Street program is concerned. I guess our biggest news is that we have two new board members who were recently sworn in at the city council meeting last night. Ms. Camille Reynoso Mason. She'll be our newest citizen representative, and she has been active with the Main Street program. [0:23:55, 0:24:15]: program for several years as a volunteer. So we were really excited that she was interested in serving on the board and put in an application. And then the second person is Ms. Andrea Burnett. She is the CEO for [0:24:16, 0:24:20]: uh powerhouse pest control, which is a downtown business. [0:24:20, 0:24:28]: And um she also has been very active with Main Street for several years. And um we had approached her. [0:24:28, 0:24:35]: um earlier um to be a board member, but at that time her schedule just would not allow for her. [0:24:35, 0:24:55]: to be able to participate, but now some um things have freed up and she was able to submit an application. So we're very excited to have her on board as well. She, as I said, is a co-owner and she serves as the CEO of Powerhouse, which is a 20-year business. So we're really excited [0:24:55, 0:25:00]: excited to have them as a part of our board. [0:25:01, 0:25:19]: Um another exciting thing to announce is that the Main Street staff has moved into the Ted Strickland building. Unfortunately, we are using borrowed furniture as we still do not have the furniture that we actually ordered specifically for the building. [0:25:20, 0:25:35]: Um, we've been promised that it would be here in January. So um, we've reached January and we're um waiting for that call to come that everything is prepared for installment. Um these are some custom pieces, so [0:25:36, 0:25:41]: Um, it's gotten, I guess, kind of mucked up in the um supply chain. [0:25:41, 0:25:50]: Situation that we've been experiencing for several months. So we're waiting for that to be available and to be installed. [0:25:50, 0:26:10]: We had a lot of community engagement over the past few months. Um our shop small efforts, including the Stockbridge Small Business Blitz and Small Business Saturday, were very, very successful. Um I want to thank all of you who may have participated and/or helped. [0:26:10, 0:26:17]: Help spread the word about our new Shop Small app. There was also a a new [0:26:18, 0:26:19]: element to our [0:26:19, 0:26:34]: promotional activities and was very successful. Um we had close to 300 um, I guess, unique users, new people that were introduced to our promotion. And um [0:26:35, 0:26:43]: thousands of um clicks and um searches through that particular app. So we were really excited about that. [0:26:43, 0:26:50]: And we look forward to continuing with the app because uh we would like to eventually, as I've told you before. [0:26:50, 0:26:57]: to phase out the the physical passport that we've used in the past, um, or at least um [0:26:57, 0:27:01]: limit the number that we have to print because it is expensive to print. [0:27:01, 0:27:03]: And um [0:27:03, 0:27:14]: make this something that um you can literally have in the palm of your hand and be able to participate through your smartphone or other um electronic device. [0:27:15, 0:27:16]: And um [0:27:16, 0:27:36]: Lisa just wanted to give a report. Lisa will be out of the office until February. She has had to have not series, but a medical procedure. So she will be off of her feet for a while. And we miss her dearly in the Main Street program office, but she's doing [0:27:36, 0:27:46]: fine and um checks in regularly as I told you we were just on the phone a few minutes ago. Um so I'm looking forward to her coming back to the office and [0:27:47, 0:27:53]: We will be planning an open house for the community to come see the new [0:27:53, 0:27:57]: Um building the renovations. [0:27:57, 0:28:04]: But I do want to wait until Lisa is back in the office. So we're looking at probably the end of February for that and [0:28:04, 0:28:14]: Of course we can't do that until we have our furniture. So um hopefully that will be delivered um by then as well, but we're planning for something at the end of February. [0:28:17, 0:28:19]: And that's all I have to report right now. [0:28:21, 0:28:28]: Thank you, Kier. Any any questions or comments for uh regarding the Main Street updates? Yes, I do. Thank you. [0:28:28, 0:28:29]: Go ahead, Councilman. [0:28:29, 0:28:38]: Uh yeah, that was a good update in terms of the it's good to see the new board members being sworn in last night. Uh does that bring you to a full board at this point? [0:28:39, 0:28:40]: Yes. [0:28:41, 0:28:49]: Excellent, excellent. Okay. So certainly now we can try to pick off a few over here. Be able to uh help assist us do what we do. [0:28:49, 0:28:51]: So uh in terms of [0:28:51, 0:28:57]: The building, it is the Ted Strickland Welcome Center. Is that correct? Or is that how is it? [0:28:57, 0:28:59]: Well, um [0:28:59, 0:29:10]: Our board meets on Friday. Um our regularly scheduled meeting is Friday and we are going to be discussing just that. Um the name of the building. There have been some um [0:29:10, 0:29:13]: suggestions and um [0:29:13, 0:29:15]: We're also gonna be um [0:29:15, 0:29:20]: Talking to our um new economic development director, he has some ideas about that as well. [0:29:21, 0:29:21]: Um [0:29:21, 0:29:30]: And we're gonna make recommendations to the council and ultimately the city council will decide what they would like to um name that particular building. [0:29:31, 0:29:47]: But we do know that community Ted Strickland Community Center is a misnomer now. So we want to make sure that we are identifying that we've created a welcome center and a pla a base of operations for downtown development. [0:29:47, 0:30:07]: and um our main street activities. So we're going to um try to come up with some some better, I guess, um names that would be more um appropriate for the building. Of course, the building was named after um I guess a beloved community member. So we don't necessarily [0:30:07, 0:30:13]: want to take the name Ted Strickland off the building, but we've got to kind of figure out how to um [0:30:14, 0:30:26]: You keep the name, but also make sure that the community knows what that building's purpose is and how they can be engaged with that facility as well. [0:30:27, 0:30:32]: Right. And the purpose is to be a welcome center. Is that correct? That's what we tried the idea is. [0:30:33, 0:30:45]: Yeah, down uh we had originally stated that we would like for that to be the um downtown-based welcome center and um base of operations for all downtown development activity. [0:30:46, 0:31:06]: Right, right, okay. Well it's certainly it'll come to the council to totally um you guys bring some ideas to the table. Just seems appropriate. I just think there would be some uproar where we try to take Mr. Strickland's name off the building. So right, we don't keep the call. [0:31:06, 0:31:17]: community member. So we definitely won't be doing that, but we do need to have something that identifies the build into the community as what its purpose will be. [0:31:18, 0:31:22]: Absolutely, absolutely. Okay. Uh thank you so much. I appreciate it. [0:31:23, 0:31:28]: No problem. Chair Custom, if I could, he was also the city manager for 25 years. Right. [0:31:29, 0:31:30]: Right. [0:31:31, 0:31:37]: So again, a b I guess a beloved member of the community. So we don't want to in any way disparage that. [0:31:39, 0:31:39]: Right. [0:31:40, 0:31:40]: All right. [0:31:42, 0:31:56]: Thank you, Franessa, for that. Yeah, I was doing a quick Google search and apparently he was also a teacher in Stockbridge for many years before he was the city manager. So yeah. Any other questions or comments regarding the main street updates? [0:31:58, 0:32:05]: Um I've just one one comment. Have you decided on uh operating hours and days for the community for the welcome center? [0:32:05, 0:32:13]: Um we are going to um be discussing that as well with the economic new economic development director. [0:32:13, 0:32:14]: Um [0:32:15, 0:32:20]: You know, we've never had a welcome center in the city of Stockbridge before, so [0:32:20, 0:32:34]: Um, we've got to kind of discuss that and look at the models that are um in neighboring cities. Um, I used to run the welcome center for the city of McDonough and for the city of Grim Griffin. I co-ran that welcome center. So [0:32:34, 0:32:48]: I have some experience with, you know, normal hours for welcome centers, but that is also on the agenda for our meeting with the new economic development director. [0:32:50, 0:32:53]: His office will be based out of that building as well. [0:32:53, 0:32:54]: All right, thank you. [0:32:54, 0:33:14]: And in in one of the earlier plans, it was um mentioned that the DDA's office would, I mean, we don't really have an office per se, but we do have files. And um, you know, and previously, you know, before before COVID and all that, we did have our meetings, you know, we we utilize city. [0:33:14, 0:33:28]: hall for our meeting space and those types of things. Is that still an option for the DDA to utilize the uh the welcome center for whatever office facilities the DDA might need? [0:33:28, 0:33:37]: Yes, definitely. And when we designed the facility, we made sure that there was um adequate um space for [0:33:37, 0:33:44]: um DDA to house their files or any equipment or um any um things that you might need to store. [0:33:45, 0:33:48]: And of course you all would be able to utilize the [0:33:48, 0:34:00]: very very nice um conference room that um has been um designed for that particular building so um i think that [0:34:00, 0:34:04]: Um, you all will get a lot of use out of the building as well. [0:34:04, 0:34:06]: Okay. Just bring you in lawn chair for now. [0:34:07, 0:34:11]: Well we have seats, they're just borrowed. I'm teasing. I'm teasing. [0:34:12, 0:34:26]: No, it's too bad that you didn't have that, you know, with problems, but under I understand the I understand the supply chain issues. But actually the chairs are actually the chairs that we're we did receive our chairs. We just did receive our desk and tables. [0:34:26, 0:34:27]: All right. [0:34:28, 0:34:40]: Very good. All right. Well we'll move on to uh facade grant updates. Um I don't have any updates. Bob, do you have any uh further updates on the facade grant? I'm not aware that we received any applications or anything further on that. [0:34:40, 0:34:41]: Uh yeah. [0:34:42, 0:34:57]: My knowledge, we have not received any others. Okay. And as far as the next I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off. Oh yeah, I I I guess we're we're we're I guess the next step would probably be, you know, we once we get our logo and everything to develop some um [0:34:57, 0:34:58]: Marketing materials. [0:34:59, 0:35:18]: Exactly. That was exactly the point I was about to make. Yeah, where that was what that was our predecessor uh activity to um get that logo and then we'll get our that's going to be our top priority is to market the uh facade grant uh program so that we can uh start utilizing those funds and sprucing up the uh downtown district. [0:35:19, 0:35:27]: All right, and that brings us to um city staff updates. Kira, you've already given the updates for Main Street. Is there anything else you wanted to share from a city staff perspective? [0:35:27, 0:35:47]: There was one other um Main Street report note. Um, as I told you, Lisa was communicating with me right when it was time for me to come on. Um, she sent me an email just to give you an idea about um the app. There were 283, I said close to 300, so 283 unique users that had a [0:35:47, 0:35:51]: Total of 5,244 engagements. [0:35:52, 0:35:59]: So for a first time app, we thought that that was um pretty good. So we hope to build on that and um [0:36:00, 0:36:04]: I know um councilman Alexander is very savvy about um [0:36:04, 0:36:12]: the social media aspect and app usage. So um hopefully that is something we can definitely build on. [0:36:12, 0:36:32]: Right. As far as um staff um updates, the only update that I really had was um that the new economic development director had been hired. I wasn't sure if he would have been able to attend the meeting. He had told me that there was a conflict with another meeting that was um going, I think the planning commission, but he was here, so he made his own. [0:36:32, 0:36:33]: announcement. [0:36:34, 0:36:34]: Great. [0:36:35, 0:36:51]: Thank you for that. And I wish Lisa full and speedy recovery. We'll look forward to seeing her back at full swing. All right, um staff update. So that moves us to city council updates. So councilman, um anything you'd like to share with the group? [0:36:51, 0:36:55]: Yeah, we got some really good news. I think I included you on the email. [0:36:55, 0:37:15]: That was coming. We finally got uh the page has been turned. Things are very exciting that are going on in downtown. Uh right now at Mart uh 118 Martin Luther King Senior Heritage Trail, the old Stock Ridge Florist. Uh there's a restaurant under construction right now uh in the building. [0:37:15, 0:37:35]: Mr. Sylvan rented rented it out to leased it out to a restaurant owner and they're in the process of um doing the uh interior construction uh on the building. Uh I was told that the restaurant could be as open as early as uh 60 days, 60 to 90 days. [0:37:35, 0:37:55]: Uh with plans and everything being submitted uh to the city uh already. So that's very exciting. Secondarily uh to that, uh the Kathy's floor shop uh you know uh was sold uh again to Mr. Sylvan. He bought the uh building and uh there was a [0:37:55, 0:38:15]: A new florist that will be coming to take over uh that particular property. It will not be Kathy's Florest anymore. Uh, there was another local florist that was looking for space that will be expanding uh into downtown, and uh they will be taking over that space. So we will have a florist in downtown uh to support. [0:38:15, 0:38:35]: So, you know, that's something that where we had two flower shops and then we went to zero. So now we'll have a florist that we can use and hopefully support and bring that energy uh back to downtown uh as well. So those are some exciting uh developments. And I actually got a chance to see some. [0:38:35, 0:38:49]: plans for the fire station and it it is amazing. There's gonna be a two-story uh the the building will be one story in itself, but there'll be a two-story deck and that second deck will form function sort of like a rooftop. [0:38:50, 0:39:10]: uh lounge area. Uh uh and below that there'll be some outside din curbside dining uh in the restaurant facility uh as the building is being in the as the concept that I saw. Now they said they fully expect to be able to move forward with something significant uh at that location. [0:39:10, 0:39:16]: And uh in excess of a million dollars that they will be spending to uh rehab the building. But [0:39:16, 0:39:19]: Again, at this point the plan is to have it be [0:39:19, 0:39:22]: A single story and then it will be like a double deck. [0:39:25, 0:39:29]: uh on the side of the building facing the Love Street side and that second deck [0:39:35, 0:39:40]: So that's exciting to know that three different businesses uh should be open. [0:39:43, 0:39:48]: Within the next calendar year uh in downtown after the struggle that we have seen um [0:39:50, 0:40:00]: uh sorry my internet I don't know what's gonna hopefully uh you got most of what I'm saying uh in terms of what uh the meeting uh the the meat of the information were and as you can see [0:40:03, 0:40:05]: See if you've driven through downtown. [0:40:06, 0:40:08]: Uh down East Atlanta Road, the construction is going. [0:40:11, 0:40:16]: on hot and heavy and trust me I had to fight ten foot paths and not five foot sidewalks. [0:40:18, 0:40:30]: They had started to put five foot sidewalks down and they had to tear them up and then they re-leveled and down East Atlanta Road. If you go down there now from East Atlanta Road on down to past the um the [0:40:32, 0:40:35]: The um I think it's c can't name it the building down there, the bit busy [0:40:37, 0:40:38]: The herb shop. [0:40:48, 0:40:56]: Be added to East Atlanta Road. Uh that turn lane will extend down back to Love Street. And so people won't have to sit. [0:40:58, 0:41:02]: there and wait on cars turning left. They'll be able to take that right on East Atlanta Road. [0:41:02, 0:41:03]: Uh oh. [0:41:05, 0:41:07]: significant mover of traffic. [0:41:13, 0:41:19]: All of that is about the connect connectivity uh and the walkability of downtown because when you come into downtown. [0:41:20, 0:41:31]: We're going to have electric car charging stations installed uh at the amphitheater. So if you're coming in, you're driving your Tesla or you're driving your Chevy Vote. [0:41:32, 0:41:32]: Or [0:41:32, 0:41:36]: Your electric E V vehicle, you can literally park at the amphitheater. [0:41:36, 0:41:38]: Charge your vehicle. [0:41:39, 0:41:40]: Get on the walking pass. [0:41:40, 0:41:42]: You know, walk down East Atlanta. [0:41:42, 0:41:45]: And then uh there'll there'll be trails. [0:41:45, 0:41:47]: There are trails on the right side. [0:41:48, 0:41:49]: Of um [0:41:49, 0:41:54]: The amp where the amphitheater is, uh, when you're coming down the pass-through road. [0:41:54, 0:41:59]: Uh but there'll be other trails that will be extended on the left hand side. So there'll be [0:42:00, 0:42:01]: Параллел трел. [0:42:01, 0:42:03]: Going on both sides of that through streak. [0:42:04, 0:42:05]: Down to [0:42:05, 0:42:06]: North Lee Street. [0:42:07, 0:42:10]: Those sidewalks will be extended in both directions. [0:42:11, 0:42:14]: Down uh north toward Bryant Street. [0:42:14, 0:42:17]: It will be a ten foot path there and then north. [0:42:17, 0:42:18]: And doing self. [0:42:19, 0:42:20]: Excuse me, two [0:42:22, 0:42:23]: North Erie Boulevard. [0:42:24, 0:42:29]: The church kind of provo uh kind of performed a little kind of caused a little bit of [0:42:30, 0:42:30]: Um [0:42:31, 0:42:33]: consternation, but we worked it out where [0:42:33, 0:42:36]: We should at least have eight feet wide. [0:42:36, 0:42:39]: uh past the entire length of it. [0:42:39, 0:42:44]: Because some of the uh ten foot would have cut into this some of their property. [0:42:44, 0:42:47]: And we just kinda had to negotiate with them so [0:42:47, 0:42:49]: We'll have at least eight foot on that. [0:42:49, 0:42:51]: Side uh bordering the church. [0:42:51, 0:42:53]: And as you go across. [0:42:54, 0:42:54]: Um [0:42:55, 0:42:57]: They're working on realigning. [0:42:57, 0:42:58]: South Lee Street. [0:42:59, 0:43:02]: You know that if you go down there, it's been very disjointed. [0:43:02, 0:43:06]: Uh where the traffic where North and South Lee Street do not line up. [0:43:07, 0:43:22]: After the close of the construction, North and South Lee Street will line up. There will be a four-way intersection at North and South Lee Street. And that traffic light will regulate both sides. Because when you come off of North Lee Street headed south, [0:43:22, 0:43:26]: There's a stop sign there basically and you gotta work your way [0:43:26, 0:43:29]: through there to try to figure out how to get out. There was a safety issue. [0:43:30, 0:43:31]: Uh especially [0:43:31, 0:43:46]: uh during the concerts. On the other side over there, as you know, the uh the Henry County STEM school is coming. So this will help in the traffic flow uh as when the STEM school arrives. And on even on that side, uh on um [0:43:46, 0:44:02]: South Lee Street, there will be a 10-foot path on one side leading back to where the old Patrick Henry High is and the new STEM school. And on the other side, facing the police department, there will be an eight-foot path on that side. [0:44:02, 0:44:03]: So anybody [0:44:04, 0:44:05]: Coming to downtown. [0:44:05, 0:44:09]: will be able to walk it, run it, ride their bike on it. [0:44:09, 0:44:11]: And potentially have a golf cart. [0:44:11, 0:44:12]: If you [0:44:13, 0:44:17]: thinking that way to be able to traverse the downtown, especially like during the concerts. [0:44:17, 0:44:19]: And you have senior citizens down there. [0:44:19, 0:44:21]: When the parking gets jammed up. [0:44:21, 0:44:25]: We plan on having uh the shuttles out there. [0:44:25, 0:44:28]: or the little carts or the buggies out there to be able to go. [0:44:28, 0:44:30]: And assist those seniors. [0:44:30, 0:44:34]: Where they are so they don't have to ride in the street, they'll be able to ride on the sidewalk. [0:44:34, 0:44:36]: To be able to come and uh [0:44:36, 0:44:37]: Assist those things yourself. [0:44:38, 0:44:40]: They are not in a position where [0:44:40, 0:44:42]: Uh, they have to walk a long distance so. [0:44:42, 0:44:45]: There will be golf carts out there to be able to [0:44:45, 0:44:47]: uh a system to do [0:44:47, 0:44:48]: Well what they [0:44:48, 0:44:50]: To get to where they're going to. [0:44:50, 0:44:53]: And last night we'll just close by saying [0:44:53, 0:45:00]: I was ho I hope you were watching the meeting last night. And I'm glad this only seven people on on this call right there. [0:45:00, 0:45:02]: Because what I'm about to say. [0:45:02, 0:45:06]: They talked about it and uh Mr. Harold Young is now officially [0:45:06, 0:45:08]: He's over our amphitheater. He's um [0:45:08, 0:45:14]: event he is uh our director over the amphitheater or the manager over the amphitheater. [0:45:14, 0:45:16]: He brought his team in. [0:45:16, 0:45:18]: And uh they are gonna do an outstanding job. [0:45:19, 0:45:21]: The working on finalizing the concert. [0:45:22, 0:45:25]: series. Uh it was some amazing names that they threw out there last night. [0:45:26, 0:45:28]: Uh Fantasia is coming with Joe. [0:45:29, 0:45:31]: Uh, if you know who Joe is, the R and B singer. [0:45:32, 0:45:33]: We have um [0:45:34, 0:45:37]: Uh certainly a lot of X that are coming that are powerhouse. [0:45:37, 0:45:41]: Uh boys to men was coming along with Joe to see. [0:45:41, 0:45:44]: Uh those are big name acts, baby faces coming. [0:45:45, 0:45:46]: Uh, along with Stokely. [0:45:47, 0:45:47]: Um [0:45:48, 0:45:50]: Patty LaBelle will be closing out the [0:45:50, 0:45:53]: Uh ri would would would be potentially the end of the year. [0:45:53, 0:45:56]: And there were several others. It is really gonna be [0:45:56, 0:45:58]: Highlight cameo. [0:45:58, 0:45:59]: Well, it's coming. [0:46:00, 0:46:03]: So there was a lot of names that were thrown out there to wet the appetite. [0:46:04, 0:46:08]: And this year's concert series we have many more concerts that we had. [0:46:08, 0:46:13]: in the past because we had a team that was able been working on this for months. [0:46:13, 0:46:16]: Uh, in order to line this up and we're getting some of the best talent. [0:46:16, 0:46:18]: uh available to bring [0:46:18, 0:46:32]: uh interest into downtown. So again, the there should be a lot of life in downtown, a lot of foot traffic. And uh hopefully we can uh start talking about enticing these folk individuals to [0:46:32, 0:46:35]: Come early before the concert, hang out at the new restaurants. [0:46:36, 0:46:36]: Or come. [0:46:37, 0:46:39]: And then spend some time in downtown. [0:46:39, 0:46:42]: Uh even on the off concert days walking and [0:46:42, 0:46:50]: uh a tra uh you know, exercising in the downtown area so to increase foot traffic on an ongoing basis. So [0:46:50, 0:46:52]: This is an exciting time. [0:46:52, 0:46:55]: Uh, to be downtown and understand the things that [0:46:55, 0:46:57]: Uh we have going on [0:46:57, 0:46:59]: uh in the area and we [0:46:59, 0:47:15]: I understand that there's certainly a lot of interest in potentially bringing uh nice residential uh into downtown as well. So it's extremely exciting uh time and uh hopefully uh we'll see a lot of this come to fruition within the next year. [0:47:19, 0:47:32]: And certainly I wanna welcome uh Mr. Kim Alaunch to the city. Uh we tell it was great when I saw Orlando on there, man. That was all I needed to see. If you can work in Orlando and economic development and Disney's back [0:47:32, 0:47:38]: Backyard, you you know what's going on because trust me, you don't want to hire the best folks in order to do [0:47:38, 0:47:46]: or and to work with uh th that type those type of entities. So we understand where we are. And certainly we want to be able to welcome [0:47:46, 0:48:06]: The new board in the city, which is the citywide development authority, to assist like we do in downtown. The Citywide Development Authority will be assisting businesses that we can't touch up North Henry Boulevard and in those areas. They will be able to offer those businesses, facade grants, and they will be able [0:48:06, 0:48:12]: to offer economic development uh opportunities outside of the general downtown area. [0:48:12, 0:48:13]: And uh [0:48:14, 0:48:15]: Their focus is [0:48:15, 0:48:35]: You know, the Heron County Development Authority's done some nice things, but their focus has been a lot on warehousing and logistics. Uh, we want to be able to recruit some film and TV industry. Uh, we want to be able to pursue some technology jobs, infrastructure, medical uh type jobs to be able to bring some uh white [0:48:35, 0:48:48]: collar jobs and professional services industries here, financial services, because I posted just the other day and I want y'all to pay attention. And this is we gotta sell this a lot. Stock bridge is one of the most fiber [0:48:49, 0:49:04]: optic intensive communities in Metro Atlanta, bar nine. You know, just the other day, uh I just uh switched over my services to AT<unk>T fiber because ATT fiber is available to most of Sockbridge right now. [0:49:05, 0:49:08]: Uh think about that. My neighbor works in film and TV. [0:49:08, 0:49:22]: He gets 10 gigabyte speed. He's able to download large movie files in just mere minutes. Yes, ATT Fiverr is available downtown, okay, uh to us right now. So [0:49:22, 0:49:42]: Understanding those things are available to businesses in the Eagles Landing area, downtown, all over the city. Uh in even in the areas where uh not ATT fiber should be available in about 95% of the city. And even and even not ATT uh is not the only option. We have spectrum fiber. [0:49:42, 0:49:48]: in areas all over the city and if we in the other areas that have Xfinity they have fiber so [0:49:49, 0:50:09]: All over the city, we are primed for any businesses to come in to take advantage of that uh at our hotels, at our you know, stays, and in in our corporate environment to be able to track these businesses. And many of these businesses in the medical, where we have Northside Hospital now, we have Well Star, we have [0:50:09, 0:50:20]: Have Emery expanding in all in the Eagles Landing area near Piedmont Henry. They're doing that and they're coming there because they have the technology infrastructure. [0:50:20, 0:50:22]: Already in place to be able to do that. [0:50:22, 0:50:24]: And like I said, my [0:50:24, 0:50:28]: Internet super fast been that way. Have a choice between spectrum. [0:50:28, 0:50:29]: And I have a choice between [0:50:30, 0:50:31]: Uh AT and T Fiber. [0:50:31, 0:50:35]: E either one or I want. Spectrum is delivering up to five hundred. [0:50:35, 0:50:36]: megabytes here. [0:50:37, 0:50:39]: And then above for business and we're [0:50:39, 0:50:44]: uh able to get like I said, my neighbor's getting 10 gigs and he's doing downloading movie files. [0:50:44, 0:50:53]: That's extremely important. If you work in film and TV and you know how intense that is, certainly you need to understand that that is a huge advantage. [0:50:54, 0:50:59]: And go talk to the people like right over in the Lake Spee area that just message me on Facebook. [0:50:59, 0:51:00]: Yes, yesterday. [0:51:01, 0:51:08]: They're dealing with a huge issue with slow internet where they're unable living in the country club. [0:51:08, 0:51:10]: House just outside the city. [0:51:10, 0:51:14]: But right in the city, we have what they what they die for. [0:51:14, 0:51:15]: Because [0:51:15, 0:51:18]: We worked. I remember it and almost close by saying in twenty sixteen. [0:51:19, 0:51:21]: We in twenty seven, that was one of the first things that we did. [0:51:22, 0:51:23]: And we invited AT and T T. [0:51:24, 0:51:28]: We invited Spectrum, Infinity, all of those people to downtown. [0:51:28, 0:51:32]: And we told them that we wanted all the city buildings connected to fiber. [0:51:32, 0:51:34]: They came, they challenged to do so. [0:51:35, 0:51:37]: And then I met Dr. Daniel Howard. [0:51:38, 0:51:40]: Uh at one of the GMA meetings and he's [0:51:40, 0:51:43]: Now, I told him at that time about our challenges with [0:51:44, 0:51:49]: Uh fiber and uh slow we will had dial up about that time in twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen. [0:51:50, 0:51:52]: And he talked concast into [0:51:53, 0:51:55]: uh guaranteed into say into [0:51:56, 0:51:56]: Committing [0:51:57, 0:52:01]: To provide fiber to the entire three oh two eight one zip code. [0:52:02, 0:52:07]: When they did that, ATT responded because ATT was not gonna be outdone. [0:52:07, 0:52:09]: That's what brought us into. [0:52:09, 0:52:12]: That leadership role when Spectrum rolled out. [0:52:12, 0:52:13]: Five G. [0:52:13, 0:52:19]: They wrote out rolled it out in stockbridge first, and they opened up their flagship store. [0:52:19, 0:52:23]: on Hudson Bridge in the Walmart complex where the Bank of America is. [0:52:24, 0:52:27]: because it was so fiber intensive here it was easy for them to do. [0:52:28, 0:52:29]: That's where we are now. [0:52:29, 0:52:32]: And that's what our carrot is to be able to attract businesses. [0:52:33, 0:52:34]: To downtown. [0:52:34, 0:52:40]: because they could get the very best in uh technology infrastructure. Thank you. [0:52:41, 0:52:53]: Thank you, Councilman. That's uh certainly a good uh development incentive. And um thank you for the other updates. I especially appreciate the uh the walkability factor and the work that you've done in that area of the downtown. [0:52:53, 0:52:56]: Any questions or comments for uh councilman? [0:52:58, 0:53:18]: I I am hoping to move to the next item of new business, which is the officer elections. Well, and and we have a board member who does need to drop off very soon. So um uh if it's okay, we'll move on to the next agenda item, which is the officer elections. Um we are uh our bylaws indicate that we are we should be uh electing officer positions, chair, vice president. [0:53:18, 0:53:25]: Chair, Treasurer, and Secretary in the first meeting of each new year. [0:53:25, 0:53:45]: We uh I I uh we uh there's a couple of things I want to say to that. Uh the first item is that, and I've informed some of you of this, is um I need to step back from chair. Um I've I've served now for um uh some time. I've been serving on this DDA for now um a little over. [0:53:45, 0:54:05]: Little over five years. And my uh work and personal responsibilities have become to where I cannot give the position the attention that it deserves. The other thing I'll mention in relation to the officer elections is that you know we have one potentially too vacant. [0:54:05, 0:54:25]: Vacancies. And we've had one vacancy with when Samiqwa left several months ago. I think there is the potential that the council may fill a position. I understand that there's an applicant who is interested in serving in the DDA. So there's two things I'd like to cover today. [0:54:25, 0:54:45]: We have a quorum. The first is um, I'd like to uh ask the board if we would consider postponing the decision for the officer elections for our next meeting with the hope and expectation that we will have another board member to um you know assign the officer roles from. So let me start with that. [0:54:45, 0:54:49]: Yeah, so I'll make a move that we postpone the officer elections until the February meeting. [0:54:51, 0:54:53]: Okay. [0:54:53, 0:54:56]: Okay, I think I've heard from that was Barber or Fran. [0:54:58, 0:54:59]: Barber. Oh, she [0:55:00, 0:55:01]: There's both. [0:55:02, 0:55:10]: All right. We'll mark it down as Barber. So uh thank you. Any any other discussion regarding uh postponing the officer elections? [0:55:12, 0:55:23]: All right. Uh all those in favor, please raise your hand. And Barber and Fran, if since you're not on video, I'll start with you, Barber. Uh yay or nay. [0:55:26, 0:55:26]: Yay. [0:55:28, 0:55:29]: And Fran. [0:55:29, 0:55:30]: Yes or no? [0:55:31, 0:55:32]: Yay. [0:55:32, 0:55:52]: All right, very good. So that's unanimous to postpone the officer elections until February. Thank you all for that. I think that gives us a little bit of breathing room and uh to think about you know how we'll reshape the the the those positions. The other thing I want uh the board's um um um to weigh in the the DEA to weigh in on is [0:55:52, 0:56:12]: Is um uh Mr. Machel Sears. Um he has been absent at the last, I think, five meetings. Um he has been unfortunately unresponsive to my uh attempts at communicating with him. I don't know if anyone else has had communication with Mr. Sears. Um I decided [0:56:12, 0:56:32]: I don't really have an indication if uh he's choose choosing to resign or not, but um without any response, uh I did check with our attorney uh as far as you know, is there any kind of legal basis as to what to do in this type of uh situation? He says there's nothing really written into the state law that defines what the action is. [0:56:32, 0:56:52]: But it's ultimately up to the city council to uh consider the to consider this to be an abandonment of the uh position. There's a general expectation that when you're serving on the board, you that you should not miss more than two meetings sequentially. And this has exceeded that amount. So I would at least [0:56:52, 0:57:12]: least like the board's expression, if you will, that we would support, being that there hasn't been any communication that we would support, that we would consider this an abandonment of the position and turn it over to the city council to consider refilling the position. [0:57:12, 0:57:28]: So I guess that's my motion is for the board to consider um Mr. Sears' um board position as abandoned. And um and I welcome any thoughts or questions or a second on that. If I could. [0:57:29, 0:57:42]: I please go ahead, Councillor. You know, I don't know because we don't know. I don't know what happened. I don't think any of us know what happened. Right. Could he be sick? Could he be, I mean, we're dealing with all this COVID and all that stuff. [0:57:42, 0:57:44]: Does anybody know? [0:57:44, 0:57:45]: So [0:57:45, 0:57:49]: I think uh maybe we might all try sending them a certified letter. [0:57:50, 0:57:54]: I mean his office is the office still in downtown. I don't know. I haven't been in contact with him. [0:57:54, 0:57:57]: To see whether or not he's still at his office. [0:57:57, 0:58:00]: To understand what is going on'cause [0:58:00, 0:58:04]: Obviously it's not like him and he's been serving on the board for a long time. [0:58:04, 0:58:06]: But before we go into [0:58:06, 0:58:10]: Uh, you know, consider the pizza position of band and I think. [0:58:10, 0:58:12]: Probably should seek additional legal counsel to see. [0:58:13, 0:58:19]: What the whether maybe we might need to send him a certified letter. Maybe somebody need to go over to his office to see see if he's over there. [0:58:20, 0:58:23]: Uh to see what is going on and to see. [0:58:23, 0:58:26]: What has happened? Uh I would hate to say that we went took this route. [0:58:27, 0:58:31]: And we found out the guy was in the hospital or something and we did not know about that. [0:58:31, 0:58:32]: So [0:58:33, 0:58:36]: I think we want to do our due diligence before we go down that road. [0:58:36, 0:58:38]: To ensure that [0:58:38, 0:58:58]: It's it doesn't come back to bite us and we found out he's laid up in the hospital somewhere and we're throwing him off the board, you know. Right. Um, I I agree and I I support your position. I will add that uh, you know, I had regular communications with Mr. Sears via, you know, text and voice. Um, and he's since been unresponsive. I personally [0:58:58, 0:59:11]: I personally went to his office and left him a note. And uh that was about a month ago, and I've not had a response. Uh, I spoke with someone at his, you know, because he has kind of a shared office space, and I spoke with uh [0:59:11, 0:59:31]: I I'm not sure if she was a manager or uh person. She actually let me into the office so she had keys. And so, you know, she says he's there, you know, and that she would deliver the note to him personally. So um I that's what I've done. And I uh I I agree with you, uh councilman, that we should do our due diligence and if uh [0:59:31, 0:59:48]: a certified letter to his office. I'm happy with that being the next step. And but I I would phrase it in such being that there hasn't been any communication that if he does not respond within a certain amount of time, that it would be considered an abandonment of office. [0:59:50, 0:59:52]: Yeah, unless you recommend differently. [0:59:54, 1:00:03]: I don't have a recommendation on a on the language. I would ask the attorney to help you help craft that letter to make sure it was legally sound. [1:00:03, 1:00:09]: All right, very good. Well then I'll reach out to our attorney to to draft the language and um and and [1:00:09, 1:00:11]: that to his uh business address. [1:00:12, 1:00:13]: Thank you. [1:00:13, 1:00:16]: Any other comments or questions uh around that point? [1:00:19, 1:00:21]: I I agree, I agree. Yeah, that that uh [1:00:24, 1:00:44]: All right. So that'll be our next point of action. All right. Thank you everyone for that. So I'll move on to old business. Um MLK Senior Memorial Public Art update. We do have the final um proposal that was uh prepared by our consultant, Ellen Parker. Um that's on me to schedule some time with the [1:00:44, 1:01:04]: city council to present that. Kira, I will probably want to get with you andor uh Lisa and sort of coordinate our presentation and decide you know when it would be appropriate. So I'll I'll leave that you know sort of between you and I since we've been working together on that piece uh as far as the timing and our next step. [1:01:04, 1:01:06]: But we have what we [1:01:06, 1:01:26]: Um paid for, in essence, from the consultant. The new DDA logo, I did uh we you know, I mentioned that earlier that we did pay for our package for a rhyme and reason. I will reach out to them to see if we can get the actual uh digital files for that. Um, on the next item, the TSW master plan. [1:01:26, 1:01:46]: And this is an item that I'm going to discuss with Mr. Mr. Lance, that, you know, just to bring him up to speed as far as where we were with the downtown master plan and to make sure he and I and uh Mr. Gardner are in alignment as far as what our next step. [1:01:46, 1:02:06]: My expectation is that we're going to proceed with TSW for the master plan. There was a discussion with Mr. Gardner and I had about a month ago to make sure that we would be. I know that he was wanting to make efforts for. [1:02:06, 1:02:17]: uh um establishing a tax allocate uh tax allocation district. So I want to make sure that the master plan that we conceive is in alignment with his goals in that regard. [1:02:18, 1:02:38]: And uh the last item I have is the uh committee to or the intergovernmental agreement with the city. Um councilman uh in particular, you know, there was some exchange that came back from the city's attorneys uh questioning a few points, which I've responded to. Has there been any other update on that? I you know that I'm I feel [1:02:38, 1:02:50]: like that's we've we've stated our position and what we hope to be in the IGA. We clarified the two points that were in question. Is there anything further as far as to get that uh established? [1:02:50, 1:02:53]: I just refer to Miss Holliday. You have any updates on this? [1:02:56, 1:02:58]: I do not um [1:02:58, 1:03:07]: I believe that's I'm not I don't recall who, but someone was going to reach out to Councilwoman Gantt to try to get clarification on the language. [1:03:08, 1:03:08]: Where [1:03:08, 1:03:13]: The city attorney could be you utilized by the D DA. [1:03:14, 1:03:18]: And not that it be a demand that that be the case, but [1:03:18, 1:03:19]: Uh yeah. [1:03:20, 1:03:22]: Use their services here and there. [1:03:23, 1:03:25]: That's the last thing that I recall. [1:03:25, 1:03:45]: Right. That that that is correct. That was a a response um to uh to the to the city's attorney that um that that was the basis for the for the position. Um how about I I reach out again to the city's attorney and um I'll certainly copy council. [1:03:45, 1:04:05]: Will McGantt to um weigh in if that was, you know, she had any more comments or feedback on that. But I'd rather not strike that particular point out unless that's the the city is really you know firm on that. I think it's a good practice to share services, you know, sharing resources. [1:04:05, 1:04:10]: where where appropriate. And you know, that includes, you know. [1:04:10, 1:04:30]: Things like, you know, legal counsel, if if there's if it's certainly if there's a project that we're working on together between the city and the DDA, there's no, you know, I would I would say, you know, in certain use cases, it's not really necessary for the DDA to incur a separate expense to call our own attorney. [1:04:30, 1:04:35]: when we could utilize the city's attorney for a shared um [1:04:35, 1:04:55]: um you know event of some sort. So I I'd rather not exclude that. But you know, I'm I'm certainly willing to discuss it and and and and figure out a way forward. But I think the larger request is that we go ahead and get an IGA established. I think it's just a good practice. And [1:04:55, 1:04:57]: And I'd like to pursue that to its conclusion. [1:04:58, 1:05:06]: So I'll I'll I'll follow up with uh that last thread and see if we can bring that to um to the you know to a conclusion. [1:05:08, 1:05:14]: All right, and those were the uh updates I had under uh old business. Um [1:05:14, 1:05:21]: Is there um anything else we want to cover before we um motion to uh adjourn the meeting? [1:05:26, 1:05:29]: All right. Well, let's hear a motion to adjourn the meeting. [1:05:32, 1:05:34]: Bob, I saw you move. [1:05:35, 1:05:42]: I can hear you. Uh I I I move that we adjourn the meeting. Very good. Thank you, sir. Any discussion? [1:05:44, 1:05:55]: All right. Those in favor to adjourn, please uh raise your hand and uh we'll have to hear from those who are voice only. So we'll start with uh Fran. [1:05:57, 1:05:59]: Okano Tari? Yes. [1:05:59, 1:06:03]: All right. And I I heard you as a yes and Barber. [1:06:04, 1:06:04]: Yes. [1:06:05, 1:06:13]: Very good. All right, everyone. Thank you for your time and service to the DDA. And I look forward to an exciting uh 2023. Have a great night. [1:06:13, 1:06:16]: Good night. Good night. Good night. I'll take care. You too.

--- title: Regular Council Meetings date: 2023-01-09 source: 2023-01-09_Regular_Council_Meetings.wav --- [0:02:06, 0:02:13]: We are alive. Okay. We are live now. Okay. Anyway. So that that makes a little different. But anyway, we we changed the process. So [0:02:14, 0:02:34]: And of course due to, you know, of course we had the pandemic, so we're on Zoom, as well as a whole different subject there. And then we come back in the council might start. So we're live, okay. So what I'm gonna do because of the time that we have this proclamation and and one other representative, Dr. Martin Luther King today. [0:02:33, 0:02:53]: So um I don't chief, I don't know if you and your command staff or you and everybody might come on up, but I'm only gonna read a proclamation. I have individuals up here with me and I'll read it and then we'll have words of wisdom from those uh individuals. So once you come on up, right? And uh [0:02:53, 0:03:01]: We're being recorded both sides of the trees, so we're on one side and kind of bounced up a little bit. [0:03:05, 0:03:12]: Summer is finished. Uh one and G. All right, one okay. [0:03:13, 0:03:33]: So what this is, ladies and gentlemen, this is a proclamation from the city of Stockbridge and Recognition of Law Enforcement Appreciation Day. Whereas across the country on January 9th of each year, citizens are partnering with organizations that take the lead to show support on National Law Enforcement Appreciation Day, LED. LEAD, excuse me. [0:03:33, 0:03:53]: And whereas National Law Enforcement Appreciation Day was created by multiple organizations in 2015 to express their gratitude for officers in the United States and support their services for citizens who are encouraged to do their part in thanking the law enforcers on this day, who has law enforcement officers of every rank and file. [0:03:53, 0:04:13]: Chosen profession that puts their life on the line every day for their communities, knowing that they may face extremely dangerous situations. Whereas National Law Enforcement Day is an opportunity to say thank you to our city of Stockbridge police officers, our Henry County Police Officers, the Sheriff's Office, and all the law enforcement officers across the state. [0:04:13, 0:04:33]: Of Georgia and the nation to make the sacrifice to protect and serve. I therefore I am as well by virtual authority investing me as the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, and on behalf of City Council members Alexander, Nada Barber, John Blount and TC Gad, and Father Thomas who hereby proclaim January 9th, 2023 as National Law Enforcement Appreciation. [0:04:33, 0:04:53]: Day in the great city of Starbucks, Georgia. We thank each and every one of you for your service and appreciate all that you do to keep our community safe. A witness thereof, I have here undo set my hand in the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia on the 19th of January in a year ungo, 2023. I signed the property law with me. [0:04:53, 0:04:55]: Fruit with this call. [0:05:00, 0:05:03]: Come on in. [0:05:05, 0:05:12]: Che Charles? Yeah, everybody's timing in. All right, three, two, one. [0:05:14, 0:05:19]: Very good. All right. And then thank you for you. Appreciate it. Smile B for a little white. [0:05:25, 0:05:45]: And as normal too when we do this, where we get a proclamation off the floor to the words of wisdom, whatever you'd like to support any once you're done, anybody else? Yes, sir. I don't know if I have any words of wisdom, but I definitely uh would like to uh on behalf of our department thank you and uh the rest of the council members uh for their support that [0:05:45, 0:06:05]: Department. This is a difficult job to do in and of itself, and without the support of the elected body and the rest of the city staff would make our job extremely difficult. So the fact that you all spearheaded this endeavor to provide quality service for the citizens of this great city and your support of our [0:06:04, 0:06:24]: organization, our department is a big reason why many of the folks that are standing here before us today elected to be part of this organization. We have seen in a lot of cities a call to defund law enforcement. This has been a city that's made it clear and especially you that law enforcement is a priority in this community and that you fully support the men and women's department. So for that we are grateful to you and the rest of the [0:06:31, 0:06:35]: I hope we have anybody else, I mean we have time to everybody else I think. [0:06:45, 0:06:50]: I can have it. [0:06:53, 0:07:03]: Okay. Really quick development. Okay. Are we going to do it? [0:07:03, 0:07:05]: Oh yeah, that's [0:07:14, 0:07:15]: Actually, okay. [0:07:17, 0:07:18]: Little poor. [0:07:20, 0:07:35]: Are you I do it? Good job after. [0:07:35, 0:07:42]: Hey, Shana. Sorry. Um totally different subject. [0:07:44, 0:07:50]: Okay. [0:08:09, 0:08:11]: Okay, I think here we go. [0:08:15, 0:08:19]: Well in the same participant based on the [0:08:20, 0:08:25]: Well because the individual. [0:08:47, 0:08:55]: I don't think it's not good. [0:09:30, 0:09:36]: [609.9, 611.3]: Thank you. Okay. [0:10:12, 0:10:13]: You don't think? [0:10:13, 0:10:15]: Oh yeah, you know. [0:10:15, 0:10:23]: In w in a few minutes. Oh okay. Yeah, in a few minutes I'll do that. Okay. But I don't know if there'll be anybody here do other than staff maybe. [0:10:24, 0:10:31]: Well I'm here. It would be easier. We have the answer. [0:15:05, 0:15:06]: Oh. [0:15:10, 0:15:12]: [1564.4, 1565.5]: Go Dogs. [0:31:37, 0:31:39]: I I don't look. [0:31:40, 0:31:44]: All right, council. How you doing? Good council, please. Let's uh get the meeting started. [0:31:58, 0:32:00]: How are you doing? You may. Okay. [0:32:05, 0:32:15]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, I have uh six oh two and I'd like to call the city council meeting of uh nine January to order. [0:32:16, 0:32:18]: On that note [0:32:18, 0:32:30]: They have a special guest tonight in a sense, several special guests, but uh we'll start this off with an invocation and a good friend of ours from Forest uh Park. All right, council member. [0:32:31, 0:32:32]: The bow's on Tony? [0:32:32, 0:32:36]: Sir, if you can come forward and and give us invocation. Please uh stand everybody if you can. [0:32:43, 0:32:50]: Father, who are in heaven, that's the answer for Father. How be thy day? [0:32:50, 0:33:10]: That kingdom come, that will be done on earth as in heaven. Give us this day, our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses, and we have trespass against us. And lead us not to be temptation, but deliverance from evil. [0:33:10, 0:33:30]: And of glory and of God. Amen. Amen. For pledge of allegiance, please. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty. [0:33:30, 0:33:31]: Justice for all. [0:33:33, 0:33:35]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:33:37, 0:33:42]: Mayor Ford. Present. Mayor Pro Tem Thomas. Present. Councilman Alexander. [0:33:44, 0:33:58]: Let the record reflect Councilman Alexander is not in attendance. Councilwoman Barber. Present. Councilman Blount. Present. Councilwoman Gantt. Present. Mayor Ford, do you have a quorum? Thank you, Madam Clerk. I appreciate that. Um [0:33:59, 0:34:03]: Mayor Pro Tem, I um need the adoption of the minutes of the agenda, please. [0:34:05, 0:34:07]: Thank you, Mayor Ford. [0:34:07, 0:34:12]: Uh Mayor and Council, there's a number of amendments. [0:34:12, 0:34:13]: First [0:34:14, 0:34:16]: Uh I moved to [0:34:17, 0:34:19]: I'm in the agenda to [0:34:20, 0:34:22]: move agenda item [0:34:22, 0:34:24]: Twenty one. [0:34:25, 0:34:26]: To [0:34:26, 0:34:29]: Immediately after the ceremonials. [0:34:31, 0:34:33]: I also move [0:34:34, 0:34:35]: Two [0:34:35, 0:34:36]: Postponed [0:34:37, 0:34:38]: Agenda item [0:34:39, 0:34:40]: Fourteen. [0:34:41, 0:34:42]: Fifteen [0:34:43, 0:34:45]: Sixteen. [0:34:46, 0:34:47]: And seventeen. [0:34:49, 0:34:50]: Is there a second to the motion? [0:34:55, 0:34:56]: Yeah, [0:34:58, 0:35:10]: All right. And and Mayor sir. I'm I second that. Okay. And to add to that. Yes sir. To add to the motion, I wanted to include um postpone until [0:35:10, 0:35:12]: February [0:35:12, 0:35:13]: Thirteenth. [0:35:13, 0:35:18]: Meeting. Okay, for those four items that were taken off. Yes. Okay. Agenda item. [0:35:18, 0:35:19]: Fourteen. [0:35:20, 0:35:21]: Fifteen. [0:35:21, 0:35:24]: Sixtin and seventy. [0:35:24, 0:35:28]: To postpone those agenda items until [0:35:28, 0:35:48]: The February 13th City Council meeting. May Mayor Ford. Yes, ma'am. If you would allow me to read those items and what they are. Yes, go ahead, please. Okay, so for item number 14 is the adoption of the official zoning map Z um OZM 2022-01. [0:35:48, 0:35:53]: Adoption of the uh item number fifteen, adoption of the overlay district map. [0:35:54, 0:36:01]: ODM two oh two oh one item number sixteen adoption of the future land use map [0:36:02, 0:36:06]: Item number F L U M T two zero two two oh one. [0:36:07, 0:36:16]: Item number seventeen, unified development code, text amendment, TX two zero two two two two two two two two two two two two dash zero one for the record, mayor. [0:36:16, 0:36:19]: Thank you very much. Appreciate it. There there was a second to that motion, is that correct? [0:36:20, 0:36:22]: Yes. Ms. Gantt second that motion. Okay. [0:36:23, 0:36:24]: Any further discussion? [0:36:25, 0:36:26]: If not all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:36:27, 0:36:29]: Thank you very much. I appreciate it. [0:36:30, 0:36:31]: Okay. [0:36:31, 0:36:33]: Now need a motion uh to [0:36:33, 0:36:38]: Excuse me for a second. Motion to adopt the minutes and those minutes were for the minutes from November fourteenth. [0:36:39, 0:36:50]: of twenty twenty two council city minutes and also the council work session uh minutes from uh November twenty ninth of twenty twenty two. There are no changes for that I need a motion accept those particular minutes, please. [0:36:52, 0:36:52]: Summoned. [0:36:52, 0:36:55]: Now Miss Barber made a motion, is there a second? [0:36:56, 0:36:58]: Second. Uh Mayor Pro Tem second. And all in favor, please indicate. [0:37:00, 0:37:01]: Thank you very much. Unanimous decision. [0:37:01, 0:37:03]: Madam Clerk, we have to do that. [0:37:03, 0:37:14]: For the record, Councilman Alexander has joined the meeting. Fantastic. Thank you. Welcome, Councilman Councilman Alexander. Public comments, please. Do we have any? Uh Madam Clerk. Public comments, Mayor. [0:37:14, 0:37:26]: Okay. So on that note we will now go into a ceremonial part of our uh agenda and that deals with the uh swearing in of several different uh individuals. Okay? [0:37:27, 0:37:29]: Let me come on down here. [0:37:42, 0:37:56]: I just uh I realized something here. I I just watched that you'll probably have to keep me straight on this. I have first of our um swearing in of our municipal judge, but if I s I I'm swearing in our imaginary still have to do a motion to approve, is that correct? [0:37:57, 0:38:02]: Correct, you need an appointment. Yes. Okay, we need to ask you. So what's first tonight? [0:38:05, 0:38:20]: So what we have first, ladies and gentlemen, counsel, and not you can hear me from this point, is that the municipal court judge and made a motion to accept to reappoint the municipal court judge for another year. Yeah. Sir. [0:38:20, 0:38:32]: Moves it to real point, uh municipal court judge. Okay. I second. Okay, Ms. Gam second it. Um all in favor, please indicate. Okay, unanimous decision. Judge McCourt, please. [0:38:33, 0:38:34]: Yes, sir. [0:38:35, 0:38:37]: I would ask that because it's elicited in [0:38:40, 0:38:40]: Wait. [0:38:40, 0:38:46]: Well I was gonna wait till I was gonna do it I was gonna do it one at a time, sir, if you don't mind. Thank you. All right. Judge. [0:38:49, 0:38:50]: The save kids. [0:38:50, 0:38:53]: Want you why don't you come up on this side? All right. All right. [0:38:55, 0:39:00]: Now Judge, I'm gonna take this just like anybody else, I'm gonna take this small snippets, all right? All right, please raise your right hand. [0:39:01, 0:39:21]: I state your name. I Matthew McCord. Solemnly swear and affirm. Solemnly swear and affirm. That will faithfully perform. That I will faithfully perform. The duties of municipal court judge. The duties of municipal court judge. Of the city of Stockbridge. City of Stockbridge. And that I will to the best of my ability. To the best of my ability. Support and defend. Support and defend. The charter. The charter thereof as well as. [0:39:20, 0:39:40]: The Constitution and Laws of the State of Georgia. Laws of the State of Georgia. And the United States of America. And the United States of America. I further affirm that upon assumption of this office. I do not hold. I do not hold any unaccounted for public money. Any unaccounted for public money. Do and payable to the state. Do and payable to the state. Any political subdivision of the state. Any political subdivision. [0:39:40, 0:40:00]: And to the city of Stockbridge. To the city of Stockbridge. Or any other authority thereof. Or any other authority thereof. Nor do I. Nor do I. Hold any other office. Hold any other office. A trust of the government of the United States. Of the government of the United States. Of this state. Of this state. Or any foreign state. Or any foreign as prescribed by law. As prescribed by law. Of the state of Georgia. Of the state of Georgia. I solemnly firm. [0:40:00, 0:40:20]: Solemnly affirmed. That I'm fully qualified. I'm fully qualified. Under the Constitution. Under the Constitution. And the laws of this state. To hold the office of a municipal court judge. To hold the office of a municipal court judge. I will perform the duties. I will perform the duties of my office. Of the best of my interest. The best of my interest. Excuse me. In the best interest. In the best interest. Okay. Of the city of Stockbridge. City of Stockbridge. [0:40:20, 0:40:36]: To the best of my ability. Without fear. Without fear. Favor. Favor. Affection. Affection. Reward. Reward. Or expectation thereof. Or expectation thereof. On the ninth day of January, 2023. On the ninth day of January, 2023. Congratulations, Judge. Appreciate it. [0:40:38, 0:40:43]: And so blowing pairs, only some [0:40:45, 0:40:47]: Yeah, blue once there. [0:40:53, 0:41:13]: Okay. And this may happen? Thank you, sir. Yeah, yeah, I you know what? I'm gonna m let me hide down here so it's out of the way. So I got a lot of top in the night. All right. Do you take a picture of him and I? Or does does the tarkas want any picture with the judge here if you want to come on down? We know not to [0:41:13, 0:41:15]: Come on, come on, if you want come on down, come on down. [0:41:20, 0:41:31]: Yes, sir, yes, sir. What if if you want your wife? Sure, absolutely, I'm sorry. Matter of fact, you have the mic, sir. What what what kind of advice and words of wisdom that you wanna give the entire city of Stockbridge as if they [0:41:32, 0:41:35]: They may come see you, hopefully maybe not, but maybe they will. [0:41:36, 0:41:45]: Here's what I'll tell you. Uh I don't know if you realize this, but this is the tenth time that I've been sworn in as judge in the city of Stockbridge. And so um [0:41:48, 0:41:57]: It's it's incredibly humbling and to the extent that we've done anything good, it's because we have good people all around us. And um here's what I'll tell you about when you come to my court. [0:41:57, 0:42:04]: There was a judge that I loved a whole lot who died a few years ago. I get choked up talking about him. But he used to call me and he would say, Matthew [0:42:04, 0:42:11]: It would say love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, faithfulness, self-control. How are we doing on that list today? [0:42:11, 0:42:15]: Because if we can approach justice that way, then we can change the world for the better. [0:42:16, 0:42:22]: Uh so when you come to see me, hopefully you don't, but when you do that that's how we do things. [0:42:25, 0:42:27]: All right, so council wanna come on in. [0:42:28, 0:42:31]: And close. Yep, yep. Monk one closed. [0:42:50, 0:42:53]: Y'all wanna come up here? [0:42:53, 0:42:54]: Come on. [0:42:55, 0:43:15]: This is my little girl Mills, my little boy Cotton Davis, and my wife Allie. All right, come on up. One day Mills will be swearing in judges. Okay, fantastic. And one and he's all MROs. Oh why that's a good one. Absolutely. Nobody knew that. No, he didn't tell that. [0:43:15, 0:43:16]: Yeah. [0:43:16, 0:43:19]: Hey, you gotta smile, bud. You gotta look up [0:43:27, 0:43:47]: Awesome. Thank you. Good to see you. Thank you. Thank you. Hello. Hello. June seventeenth. So the response then. Can you say that? Yeah, well it it depends how you want to do this, because I've I I have several people swearing. If we can either stand here and we can make the motion and we'll have discussion for one. [0:43:47, 0:43:51]: Okay, all right. On that note then, okay now we'll turn that up. [0:43:52, 0:44:06]: All right. Uh what what is next is the uh uh oath of office for a solicitor. Uh so I need a motion to approve uh the solicitor or appoint the solicitor. So move. Okay, is there a second? That's it. Okay, all in favor please in the case. [0:44:06, 0:44:07]: All right, thank you very much. [0:44:08, 0:44:09]: Ma'am, could you please come forward? [0:44:10, 0:44:11]: Okay. [0:44:11, 0:44:13]: Judy Kirk. Okay. [0:44:16, 0:44:20]: W we'll stand right here please. Yes, sir. Okay. Raise your right hand. [0:44:21, 0:44:41]: I state your name. I Julie Kurt. Solemnly swear or affirm. Solemnly swear or affirm. That I'm faithfully that I will faithfully perform. That I will faithfully perform. The duties, the duties of municipal court solicitor. The duties of municipal court solicitor. Of the city of Stockbridge. Of the city of Stockbridge. And that I will. And that I will to the best of my ability. To the best of my ability. Support and defense. [0:44:41, 0:45:01]: Support and defend. The charter thereof. The charter thereof. As well as the Constitution. As well as the Constitution. And the laws of the State of Georgia. And laws of the State of Georgia. And the United States of America. And the United States of America. I further affirm that. I further affirm that. Upon assumption of this office. Upon assumption of this office. I do not hold any unaccounted for public money. I do not hold any [0:45:01, 0:45:21]: Any unaccounted for public money. Do and payable to the state. Do and payable to the state. Any political subdivision of the state. Any political subdivision of the state. The city of Stockbridge. The city of Stockbridge. Any authority thereof. Or any authority thereof. Nor do I hold. Nor do I hold any other office of trust. Any other office of trust. Of the government of the United States. Of the government of the United States. Of this state. [0:45:21, 0:45:41]: Of this state. Or any foreign state. Or any foreign state. Described by the laws. As described by the laws. Of the state of Georgia. Of the state of Georgia. I solemnly affirm. I solemnly affirm. That I fully I am fully qualified. I am fully qualified. Under the Constitution. Under the Constitution. And the laws of the state. And laws of the state. To hold the office. To hold the office. [0:45:40, 0:46:00]: Of the municipal court. I will perform the duties. I will perform the duties to of my office. Of my office. In the best interest. In the best interest of the city of Stockbridge. Of the city of Stockbridge. To the best of my ability. To the best of my ability. Without fear. Without fear. Favor. Favor. Affection. Affection. Reward. Reward. Or expectation thereof. Or expectation thereof. This or ninth day. [0:46:00, 0:46:15]: of January 2023. This is the ninth day of January 2023. Congratulations. Thank you very much. Congratulations. Congratulations. [0:46:20, 0:46:31]: Okay, so sound when you when you're done, solicitor, obviously you have w uh words that you wanna expound on us and uh educate us here. [0:46:33, 0:46:39]: Just briefly I just want to say thank you for giving me the opportunity to serve. It's been a great experience. I look forward to another great year. [0:46:39, 0:46:43]: Fantastic. Okay. Can we need to take one? Come on. Come on in. [0:46:56, 0:47:00]: Thank you. All right. Fantastic. Okay. All right. [0:47:02, 0:47:11]: Well and actually what is next is not actually a swearing in, is actually in a uh the motion uh from the council in reference to the mayor pro temp. [0:47:11, 0:47:12]: What's next on agenda? [0:47:14, 0:47:19]: Any one of you five want to be the mayor of Protown who you want to endorse or a motion to place someone as a mayor of Protown? [0:47:20, 0:47:28]: Mayor Forward? Yes, sir. I nominate Councilwoman Yolanda Ball. Okay. Is there a second to that motion? Second. All right. All right. [0:47:30, 0:47:37]: I'm sorry? There's a discussion. Okay, I'm sorry. Go ahead. [0:47:37, 0:47:40]: When we started doing mere protein? Yes. [0:47:40, 0:47:43]: The purpose of Mark Ten was not to start rotating. [0:47:44, 0:47:45]: Okay. [0:47:45, 0:47:47]: And the rotation came from myself. [0:47:48, 0:47:49]: Changed the council my life is out of. [0:47:50, 0:47:52]: Okay, Fonzo Thomas. [0:47:53, 0:47:55]: When it came to your London barber, she forwent her [0:47:56, 0:47:58]: And gave it back to Mr. Thomas. Okay. [0:47:59, 0:48:02]: That's not the power to do that for what we said we was gonna do. [0:48:02, 0:48:07]: If it was her year to be it, right. Then we got a a council person here. [0:48:07, 0:48:09]: Has been on council three terms. Mm-hmm. [0:48:10, 0:48:13]: The only one up here is serving three consecutive terms. [0:48:14, 0:48:15]: Councilwoman Gand. Mm-hmm. [0:48:16, 0:48:18]: And because you have a consensus to do it. [0:48:19, 0:48:21]: Didn't make it right if we said it was gonna rotate. [0:48:22, 0:48:29]: When it was her turn to be nominated, she she forwent that term and gave it to Councilman Thomas. Okay. Now [0:48:29, 0:48:48]: She's gonna come back and say because there's consensus, it's her term again when you have Councilwoman Gantt when it should be her turn to be Mayor Mayor Pro Ten, but because there's a consensus, we won't see that tonight. Well last year there was a consensus for for her. Yeah, there was a consensus for her last year. There was consensus for her to be Mayor Pro Team. That's correct. [0:48:48, 0:49:04]: But she's but she said I didn't want to be mayor for a town and gave it to that was her that was her obligation to do that. Okay well fine. She she obligated to do that. But if we made we made a motion. Motion's been made, it's been seconded. But I I said that in the discussion phase. Okay, I got it. Okay. [0:49:04, 0:49:12]: Motion's still be made in and seconded though. I I got the discussion. Okay, I got sir. Discussion. Yes sir. Mayor for [0:49:13, 0:49:15]: There is no [0:49:15, 0:49:16]: Policy. [0:49:18, 0:49:19]: In reference to [0:49:20, 0:49:22]: The city council. [0:49:22, 0:49:23]: A pointing [0:49:24, 0:49:25]: The mere pro team. [0:49:26, 0:49:28]: try to see is [0:49:29, 0:49:30]: The city council. [0:49:31, 0:49:37]: shall upon. Correct. That is the only policy. Got it. There's no policy about rotating. [0:49:38, 0:49:39]: The mere protein. [0:49:40, 0:49:45]: I just wanted to clarify. All right. So motion made been seconded. So we had a discussion. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:49:47, 0:50:00]: Okay, all opposed? Abstain. You abstain? Abstain. All right, so it's three one one. Congratulations, Member Proof Town, for next year. Abstain. No, no, no. Abstain. You abstain. And I abstain. [0:50:02, 0:50:02]: In the road. [0:50:03, 0:50:06]: You asked if you're not going to be able to stop, stop, time off, time. [0:50:06, 0:50:10]: It's three two. You because you initially uh you initially said no, I thought. [0:50:10, 0:50:16]: No sir, I abstained. It's three zero two. It's it's it passed by the way, maybe it's Okay so what's the issue then? [0:50:16, 0:50:36]: You start? 302. Congratulations. Thank you. Okay, now. Next would be our city attorney. Our city attorney, Mr. Mr. Washington. All right. So now I need a motion to uh approve or appoint our city attorney, which is also a part of the process. So we imagine Jerry. [0:50:36, 0:50:49]: Need a motion to appoint our city attorneys. Mayor forward. Yes, sir. So move. Okay, sir. Okay, good. And in discussion. [0:50:50, 0:50:51]: All favorite place in the K. [0:50:52, 0:50:53]: Fantastic. United City. [0:50:53, 0:51:05]: Sir, go forward please. Uh uh uh no win, probably. That's an appointment, so there's no swearing in for you. Okay, no swearing in for you. Congrat well congratulations. Thank you. [0:51:06, 0:51:16]: What are we gonna do with group full? We can do group of that's fine. Fantastic. Sounds good. [0:51:20, 0:51:25]: Congratulations, sir. Appreciate it. Come on in. [0:51:31, 0:51:43]: Thank you. And we'll have to we'll have to also uh inform Jeremy Berry that he's been appointed for another year. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you for everybody. [0:51:45, 0:51:52]: What is next is actually the uh planning commission. So uh Ms. Nelson, come forward please. [0:51:55, 0:51:56]: Mr. Tim Dole. [0:51:57, 0:51:57]: So [0:51:58, 0:51:58]: Yeah. [0:51:59, 0:52:01]: Come on for us, please. [0:52:03, 0:52:09]: Right there be fine? I thought you were missing. Yeah, no problem. The mic there's the mic's right there, it's why. Come on round, sir. [0:52:12, 0:52:14]: You got your younger sister taking pictures here, huh? [0:52:15, 0:52:22]: Good deal. Yeah, come on in. Come on this side of there there you go. Okay. Raise your right hand, please. And I'll take take this as small little snippets as best as possible. [0:52:22, 0:52:24]: State I state your name, please. [0:52:24, 0:52:44]: I Kathleen Nelson. Do solemnly swear and affirm. Do solemnly swear and affirm. Excuse me the wrong hand. That I'm faithfully that I will faithfully perform that I will faithfully perform the duties at the member of the city of Stockbridge Planning Commission. You doing this one at a time or are we saying it together? You say it together. You're saying it's a check. Yeah, say it okay. I'll tell you what. We'll start over. Okay. Okay, it's the same the same time. [0:52:44, 0:52:48]: But it's the same same oath, same individual, same commission. Okay? I please state your name. [0:52:49, 0:52:50]: I Harley Thibodeau. [0:52:50, 0:53:10]: I can't believe no. Okay. Do solemnly swear. Do solemnly swear. Solemnly swear. Affirm that I will faithfully perform the duties. Perform the duties. As a member of the City of Stockbridge Planning Commission. As a member of the City of Stockbridge Planning Commission. And that I will. That I will to the best of my ability. To the best of my ability. Support and defend. Support and defend. [0:53:10, 0:53:21]: Charter thereof as well as the Constitution and the laws of the state of Georgia and the laws of the State of Georgia and the United States of America. And the United States of America. [0:53:22, 0:53:42]: Upon assumption of this office. Upon assuming this office I do not hold. I do not hold any unaccountable for public money. Any unaccountable public money. Do and payable to the state. Do and payable to the state. Any political subdivision of the state? Any political subdivision of the state. Or any authority thereof. Or any authority thereof. Nor do I hold. [0:53:42, 0:54:02]: Any other office of trust? Any other office of trust? And the government of the United States. Of this state, of this state. Or any foreign state or any forever as prescribed by the law of the state of Georgia. Of the state of Georgia. I will perform the duties of my office of my office. In the best of interest [0:54:02, 0:54:22]: Excuse me, in the best interest. In the best interest. Of the city of Stockbridge. Of the city of Stockbridge. Best of my ability. Without fear, without favor, affection. Affection. Affection. Reward. Reward. Expectation thereof. Or expectation thereof. On the ninth day of January, you know, year of twenty twenty three. On the ninth day of January of the year twenty three. [0:54:22, 0:54:28]: Congratulations. [0:54:29, 0:54:31]: Mr. Delson, congratulations. Thank you. Thank you. [0:54:35, 0:54:35]: Regular. [0:54:36, 0:54:37]: Just do. [0:54:37, 0:54:39]: No here. [0:54:40, 0:54:44]: Yes. [0:54:45, 0:54:46]: Oh [0:54:49, 0:54:50]: Right. [0:54:55, 0:55:05]: Okay, so this is this is yours, Kathleen. This one and this one has a pen for you. [0:55:07, 0:55:09]: Right here. Thank you, sir. [0:55:16, 0:55:34]: It's two copies now. It's two of them. One right below. Right. Two copies of that. You signed twice already. Thank you very much. Words of wisdom, any comments? I just appreciate that I can serve again. Okay. How about you, Mr. Tumelow? Just trying to make a difference. Okay, good deal. Thank you very much. Uh hold on, we we did we didn't take a picture yet, did we? [0:55:34, 0:55:42]: Come on back, we gotta take a picture here. Historical moment. You know right here next to your partner, right? You're you all on commission together? Good deal. All right. [0:55:53, 0:55:55]: I think she she she she's done one way. [0:55:59, 0:56:07]: Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Thank you for serving again. Congratulations. All right, thank you. [0:56:09, 0:56:22]: Mayor. I'm sorry? You didn't take a picture of me there at 15? We've been sitting we've standing next to each other all along. Yeah. We can get ours later. Right. Okay, so what we have next is the youth council advisory. [0:56:23, 0:56:25]: Council and that would be the [0:56:26, 0:56:28]: Tanya Williams. [0:56:31, 0:56:33]: Miss Watson? [0:56:33, 0:56:34]: Come on up, please. [0:56:35, 0:56:35]: Yeah. [0:56:39, 0:56:42]: Yeah, Miss Harvey. I have Miss Harvey here as well. [0:56:43, 0:56:44]: Okay. [0:56:45, 0:56:48]: So you council advisory uh committee members. [0:56:50, 0:56:59]: So you're Miss Watson. Yes. Okay, so and so Miss Williams is not here tonight. Okay? [0:57:02, 0:57:05]: Kind of special wings. [0:57:06, 0:57:09]: I'm sorry? [0:57:11, 0:57:20]: Carter. Doesn't say Carter. I have I have uh Tanya Williams is you council advisory committee, Tanya Williams and Erica Harvey, along with [0:57:21, 0:57:24]: I'm sorry, excuse me. Excuse me, so sorry. [0:57:25, 0:57:30]: All right, Ms. Carter, we gotcha. I'm sorry, Ms. Carter and Ms. Adams. [0:57:31, 0:57:32]: There's Adams? [0:57:33, 0:57:39]: But along with them are do are you where we want to start it? I'll do different thoughts. [0:57:39, 0:57:42]: I heard they're having a special crowd meeting though. [0:57:44, 0:57:49]: All right. I'll tell you so all right. Okay, how about [0:57:50, 0:58:00]: How how about how about we we we waited just a little bit longer, see if they'll join us, okay? So I'll call you back up in just a little bit. All right. We'll go to Main Street next. Probably. [0:58:06, 0:58:09]: So for Main Street, uh Ms. Burnett's [0:58:12, 0:58:13]: And Miss Mason. [0:58:22, 0:58:40]: How you doing? Great. Good. How you doing, sir? Phot photographer? Okay. Good deal. All right. Yeah. Raise your right hand. And as you s you as you s are seeing this, we're taking a small little snippet as the best as possible. Are you all never met each other before? We have, we have. [0:58:40, 0:58:43]: Okay. All right. All right. Well, okay, good. [0:58:44, 0:58:46]: Brace and and uh I and state your name, please. [0:58:46, 0:59:06]: I Andrea Felicia Burnett. Okay. Board member? Board member. Do you solemnly swear and affirm? Do you solemnly swear and affirm? That I will faithfully perform. That I will faithfully perform. The duties of the Main Street Advisory Board. The duties of the Main Street Advisory Board. Of the city of Stockbridge. Of the city of Stockbridge. And that I will to the best of [0:59:06, 0:59:26]: My ability to the best of my ability. Support and defend. Support and defend. The charter thereof. The charter thereof. As as well as the constitution and laws. The constitution and laws of the state of Georgia. Of the state of Georgia. And the United States of America. And the United States of America. I further affirm that. I further affirm. [0:59:26, 0:59:46]: Upon assumption of this office? Upon assumption of this office. I do not hold. I do not hold any unaccounted for public money. Any unaccounted for public money. Do and payable to the state. Due and payable to the state. Any political subdivision of the state. Any political subdivision of the state. The city of Stockbridge. [0:59:46, 1:00:06]: Or any other authority thereof, or any other authority thereof, nor do I hold, nor do I hold any other office of trust, any other office of trust of the government, of the government of the United States, of the United States, of this state, of this state, or any foreign state, or any foreign state as prescribed by the law, as prescribed by the law of the state. [1:00:06, 1:00:26]: State of Georgia. Of the state of Georgia. I will perform the duties. I will perform the duties of my office. Of my office. In the best interest in the best interest of the city of Stockbridge. And city of Stockbridge. And to the best of my ability. And to the best of my ability. Without fear. Without fear. Favor. Favor. Affection. Affection. Reward. Reward or expectation thereof. Or expectation. [1:00:26, 1:00:41]: Expectation thereof. This is the ninth day of January twenty twenty three. Ninth of January year twenty twenty three. We got this. Congratulations. Congratulations to you. Come on, come on over here. I speak more than this. [1:00:45, 1:00:52]: Yeah. You're Andrea, right? I am. Okay, so this is one for you here. Uh take that pin, sign this one. [1:00:53, 1:00:56]: Yeah. [1:00:56, 1:01:00]: Sign that. Sign this one. [1:01:00, 1:01:01]: You need a lot. [1:01:01, 1:01:04]: Ms. Mason? Yes. Okay. [1:01:05, 1:01:11]: Because sign right there is a kind of unit. [1:01:17, 1:01:37]: One more time on that line. Okay, do you ladies have any words of wisdom, comment comments, anything you'd like to say to everybody? Well, um, as this new appointed I need that I need that back. Okay. That was mine. I appreciate the opportunity to serve because that is what we believe at Powerhouse, that the path of greatness [1:01:37, 1:01:38]: This is by serving. [1:01:40, 1:01:46]: Yeah. Um just want to say look forward to working with the Main Street program and um working more with the C Stockbridge. [1:01:47, 1:02:00]: Okay, appreciate it. Just so you know for everybody, we'll sign these investment clerk has to sign them and then you will get a copy of this, okay? Okay. Okay, thank you. Good deal. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. You got to be kitchen, huh? My ladies, my lady? [1:02:00, 1:02:01]: Yes. [1:02:04, 1:02:04]: There we go. [1:02:04, 1:02:07]: Yeah, I will look over I guess look over here, suppose. [1:02:09, 1:02:12]: Okay. [1:02:17, 1:02:18]: Congratulations. [1:02:20, 1:02:40]: Okay. All right. Good, no problem. Thank you all. Congratulations. Okay. All right. Okay, what's what's uh next would be the new council of buyers with committee uh committee members. Okay. So that would be Ms. Williams. Are they out of their meeting? Ms. Williams, come on, okay. [1:02:43, 1:02:46]: Miss Williams, Miss Harvey. [1:02:46, 1:02:48]: Okay. [1:02:50, 1:02:50]: Right. [1:02:51, 1:02:54]: Ms. Carter? [1:02:58, 1:03:00]: Miss Watson? [1:03:01, 1:03:07]: Okay. I so let's see here. And Miss Adams. [1:03:07, 1:03:08]: Right. [1:03:09, 1:03:29]: Miss Adams? So it's all five of it. Okay. Alright ladies. We'll just uh kind of gather in here. We'll just do the thing we think go or two. And so raise your right hand. And uh you wanna take and I'll try to take this smallest division snippets here. Hi, and please state your name. Hi Bonita. [1:03:29, 1:03:49]: Adam. Committee member. Committee member. You solemnly swear and affirm. You still solemnly swear and affirm. That I will faithfully perform. That I will faithfully perform. Duties of the youth council advisory committee. The duties of the youth council advisory committee. Of the city of Stockbridge. Of the city of Stockbridge. And that I will to the best of my ability. To the best of my ability. Support and defend. [1:03:49, 1:04:09]: The charter thereof, as well as the Constitution, as well as the Constitution and laws of the state of Georgia and the United States of America. And the United States of America. I further affirm that. I further affirm that upon assumption of this office. Upon assumption of this office. I do not hold any unaccountable public money. I do not hold any hold unaccountable for public money. [1:04:09, 1:04:29]: Money. Do I'll payable to the state? Do I do the state any political subdivision of the state? Any political subdivision of the state. The city of Stockbridge. The city of Sabridge. Or any authority thereof. Or any authority thereof. Nor do I hold any other office of trust any office of trust of the government of the United States. Of the government of the United States. Of this state. Of this state. [1:04:29, 1:04:49]: Or any foreign state as prescribed by the law. As prescribed by the law. State of Georgia. In the state of Georgia. I'll perform I will perform the duties of my office. Of my office. In the best interest of the city of Stockbridge. And to best of my and to the best of my abilities. [1:04:49, 1:05:09]: And so that's the liability. But our fear, favor, favor, affection, reward, reward, expectation thereof. Expectation thereof. It's not the day of January of this year. Congratulations. Congratulations to the open so we can. [1:05:09, 1:05:11]: Sign all these documents here. [1:05:15, 1:05:18]: We tapped it after. [1:05:26, 1:05:28]: Yeah, [1:05:28, 1:05:47]: You have you have uh two we have two of them. Uh Miss Williams. Is that what she was saying? [1:05:48, 1:05:49]: The blue. [1:05:49, 1:06:00]: You gonna plead? No, the youth council only been uh running since uh I got appointed two eleven twenty two. Miss Carter? Here you go,'cause you got two sheets to sign up, right there, please. [1:06:06, 1:06:10]: Ms. Harvey, of course, this is yours. [1:06:14, 1:06:15]: Well yeah. [1:06:15, 1:06:16]: A little dirty. [1:06:18, 1:06:19]: Be honest, right? [1:06:20, 1:06:35]: Did you do the details? Don't forget about me. You must be AK you're you know about that my feet. [1:06:36, 1:06:50]: All right, Miss Adams, I'm sorry. Here you go. Two you got two different sheets. There we go, there I go. [1:06:50, 1:06:51]: It was all. [1:06:52, 1:07:12]: Uh yeah. Well yeah to the restroom. Okay, sure. That's right. Yes sir, no problem. Okay. Yeah, yeah, I got I see that. Good. Okay. Yeah, blue photo here, ladies. And then of course uh do you have any comments that you want to make to the the public here? Come on in, ladies. [1:07:12, 1:07:15]: So we're going to do it. [1:07:15, 1:07:18]: There's got a couple down here too as well. Can we got everybody? [1:07:18, 1:07:19]: Yeah. [1:07:21, 1:07:28]: Looking at the shame. We look at the same thing. [1:07:29, 1:07:29]: I think. [1:07:40, 1:08:00]: Okay, we have voted. I think is that we good? All right. And you ladies have anything you need you need to say before we all sit out? Oh, they want to make it social fine. How about it? Well, we just want to say thank you this evening for entrusting us with the youth of Stockbridge, and we hope that we make you proud. And we ask and solicit your your support for the youth council. So we always [1:08:00, 1:08:11]: always looking for volunteers and again we say thank you on this evening. Okay, good deal. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Appreciate it. Okay. Good deal. [1:08:27, 1:08:31]: Man, it is. It's tough out there. Congratulations. [1:08:34, 1:08:39]: Uh thank you. [1:08:40, 1:09:00]: Right, ladies and gentlemen, that's the basically the end of our ceremonial portion for this evening. And typically on the first day of our meeting in every calendar year, we go through this whole process of appointments and and uh swearing in of new members of our boards and committees. And I look forward to um more appointments to to a [1:08:59, 1:09:19]: occur, especially since we recently annexed officially as of one January, roughly just under 7,000 new s uh residents in the city of Stockbridge. So hopefully those individuals will see interest and a need to volunteer their time on one of the many boards that we have and uh and so they'll have an opportunity to serve and get sworn in and serve in the community as well. [1:09:19, 1:09:38]: Well earlier today, uh which is only roughly half an hour prior to the start of the meeting, there are two proclamations uh that I have read. And uh the two proclamations uh dealt with, first of all, law enforcement appreciation day, and uh Chief Tremor along with his command staff were in the council chambers here. [1:09:38, 1:09:48]: for the reading of that and accepting of that and also any comments comments that the chief made. And we were able to uh tape that so it's all on uh it's all on tape in this aspect as well. [1:09:48, 1:10:08]: And besides that, uh the next proclamation that was read right before our meeting was um Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. uh day, holiday, of course, which is officially on the sixteenth, which is Monday. And of course, it's we're spe especially proud in the city of Stockbridge to read the proclamation and honor uh Doctor King simply because w without a doubt, [1:10:08, 1:10:11]: [4212.1, 4232.1]: uh uh family, historical home, I should say, of the King family. And and that is due to the fact that uh Martin Luther King Sr., which is known as Daddy King, was initially born at Starp Ridge, raised here, gave his first sermon at age fifteen at Floyd Chapel Baptist Church, which is really less than a quarter mile from this location, and before he decided [1:10:32, 1:10:43]: to go to Atlanta and link up uh with the Ebenezer Baptist Church and find his wife and raise his family. So we're extremely proud about that. Though those proclamations were read earlier this evening. [1:10:44, 1:10:56]: On that note, we will move on with our agenda. And by virtue of the amendment to the agenda, we are actually going to have item number uh originally was 21 move up now. [1:10:56, 1:11:00]: And uh that item dealt with the council consideration to ratify [1:11:00, 1:11:02]: uh the resolution to extend [1:11:03, 1:11:17]: a consultant contract to Harold Young effectively won January twenty twenty three. And I know Mr. Young is here with several members of his team, but this is going to be presented by Mr Our Attorney, Mr. Quentin Washington, please. [1:11:20, 1:11:30]: the mayor council the consultant contract that we discussed is there it is my understanding that the only part that will be changed is the parking setting concessions [1:11:34, 1:11:44]: My understanding is the only part of this contract that's going to be ch that's going to change is the part concerning the concessions. And it's going to be that the city would get a vendor fee. [1:11:44, 1:12:04]: From the concessions and my understanding from talking with the acting city manager and with Mr. Young is that that number is going to be decided based on an average that they're compiling right now from prior concession sales of past the past vendor to be able to come back and bring that number to you. [1:12:04, 1:12:08]: you to set that number for what the rent would be. [1:12:09, 1:12:19]: Oh thank you. Now uh counselor if you've got any questions obviously we can talk about that. Mayor Pro Tem you have any additional things you would like to say at this time, sir? I'll start with you. Go ahead, please. Um [1:12:23, 1:12:26]: I move to approve [1:12:27, 1:12:31]: The contract with three modifications. [1:12:33, 1:12:36]: And if I may, I will read those uh into the record. [1:12:38, 1:12:41]: Number one and I will madam clerk read them a little slow. [1:12:42, 1:12:50]: Uh um the first modification to the document that we have vetted. [1:12:51, 1:12:53]: The city shall receive [1:12:55, 1:12:59]: One hundred percent of food and beverage sales and that is to be changed. [1:12:59, 1:13:00]: Two [1:13:01, 1:13:03]: The city shall reci. [1:13:04, 1:13:05]: One hundred percent [1:13:06, 1:13:07]: of the concession [1:13:07, 1:13:09]: Vendors rent. [1:13:09, 1:13:13]: For all food and beverage sales. [1:13:15, 1:13:16]: Number two modification. [1:13:19, 1:13:20]: The signature [1:13:21, 1:13:23]: On all documents. [1:13:24, 1:13:26]: Where it states the city of Stockbridge [1:13:27, 1:13:29]: Would now be changed to [1:13:30, 1:13:31]: The mayor. [1:13:32, 1:13:34]: For his signature. [1:13:35, 1:13:38]: And number three, and the final modification. [1:13:39, 1:13:41]: is in exhibit a [1:13:43, 1:13:44]: Line five. [1:13:45, 1:13:46]: Promotions. [1:13:48, 1:13:50]: Ticketmaster Promotions. [1:13:51, 1:13:53]: Shall be changed to [1:13:55, 1:13:56]: Take it. [1:13:56, 1:13:57]: Promotion. [1:13:58, 1:14:00]: From ticket master promotion. [1:14:00, 1:14:01]: to ticket [1:14:02, 1:14:03]: Promotion. [1:14:03, 1:14:03]: Mm-hmm. [1:14:03, 1:14:06]: Mayor, those are the three modification. [1:14:07, 1:14:09]: And I moved to approve. [1:14:10, 1:14:15]: Uh disagreement with those three modifications. Thank you. Council Azure, second to the motion. [1:14:16, 1:14:18]: A second. Ms. and secondette. [1:14:18, 1:14:21]: If there's no further conversation or discussion, all in favor please indicate. [1:14:24, 1:14:25]: Okay. Everybody approved that? [1:14:26, 1:14:46]: I abstain. Okay, thank you. I appreciate that. Uh congratulations on that note. But uh for that I abstain. You scream me? I abstain. You abstain. So it's four zero one. Four zero one. Okay. Um that's for the contract, but there's still a resolution that we have to vote on. Is that yes, the resolution is in the packet. Yes. [1:14:46, 1:14:49]: Right. So Mayor Potem, please. [1:14:52, 1:15:01]: Mayor Ford, and Council. Mayor. Oh, that's right. I'm sorry. [1:15:02, 1:15:10]: After tonight? Okay, fine. After tonight she says, so be it. Um um uh thank you. Uh okay, go ahead. Go ahead, Mr. Thomas. Uh Mayor Ford and Council. [1:15:11, 1:15:15]: I move to approve the uh resolution. [1:15:16, 1:15:18]: Is there a second to a motion? [1:15:18, 1:15:22]: Second. Okay. Um Mr. Blount, second then. All in favor, please indicate. [1:15:22, 1:15:26]: I thought we did. Uh uh on motion all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:15:27, 1:15:28]: Reference to the resolution. [1:15:30, 1:15:36]: One. This is the resolution to adopt the the independent contractor status of Mr. Young? Right, that is correct. That is correct. [1:15:37, 1:15:38]: How about it? [1:15:38, 1:15:49]: Well we we have to vote on the re resolution. We voted on the contract, the changes the contract, now we have to vote on the resolution. So moved. Well it's already it's already been moved and seconded, and I'm just asking for the Oh okay. The approval. Yeah. [1:15:50, 1:15:50]: Okay. [1:15:51, 1:15:51]: Four. [1:15:52, 1:16:02]: You are staying. Four zero one. It passes. Okay, thank you very much. Thank you. All right. Thank you, gentlemen. Mr Young, please come forward and talk with us. Introduce yourself and your team, sir. [1:16:02, 1:16:07]: Enlighten us with the fact that twenty twenty-three Cons of Seniors is gonna be off the chain. [1:16:07, 1:16:12]: All right. [1:16:19, 1:16:21]: Come on up, gentlemen. Will you please, absolutely. [1:16:25, 1:16:45]: Good evening, Council Mayor. Good evening. Thank you all for this opportunity. Um, we are very excited about the twenty twenty-three concert series um that to represent the city of Stockbridge. This has been a very exciting year for us the previous year, and this come this coming year, we got some more exciting [1:16:45, 1:16:58]: concerts that we're really excited about. I uh I thank you all for this opportunity, but to put together a top-notch and run a top-notch amphitheater like as you're seeking, I couldn't do it alone. [1:16:59, 1:17:02]: And I I fair not to say I can do this by myself. [1:17:02, 1:17:22]: So I I employed and volunteered, volunteered uh several gentlemen that I want to introduce a team to you all and let you know what is coming to the city of Stockbridge. As I introduce to the right Mr. John Armstrong, who is a vice president director at the Earth. [1:17:22, 1:17:25]: Urban League and he's in charge of our sponsorships. [1:17:26, 1:17:40]: Um Mr. James Smart. He is the uh director of uh events at Morehouse College. Anything that happens at Morehouse from the President of the United States coming to a birthday party, he's in charge of. [1:17:40, 1:17:44]: So I wanna make sure you are the other. Jerome Dickerson skew. [1:17:45, 1:18:05]: Derrickson, he is in charge of some of my talent buying, and he has an agency with uh dealing with a lot of he's worked with everybody. He was a former member of Zap and Roger, played the saxophone, and he's also uh worked with everybody from Kim to Anita Baker to Patty LaBelle to anybody on the roster. [1:18:05, 1:18:09]: that you probably heard of in your life, RB and also [1:18:09, 1:18:28]: Every kind of gyre music. Then we have uh Samuel uh uh Hampt Hampton, Mumford, excuse me, excuse me, excuse me, uh, who is in charge of our security. Um we we bring in a security team, the top-notch security, making sure that everything is done correctly and everybody have a safe time. [1:18:29, 1:18:49]: Now, the gentleman to my left, you may have seen him, may recognize him from the House of Pain television show and also Tyler Perry's plays. He's going to be our resident host. So I'm going to introduce you all to Mr. Palmer Williams Jr. And he's going to be our resident host for all of our shows to make sure that everyone has from the beginning to the end. [1:18:48, 1:18:55]: a great experience. So I want to thank you all very much, and you all know who I am. I'm Harold Young. [1:18:55, 1:18:57]: Yeah, thank you. Appreciate it. [1:18:58, 1:19:15]: I I noticed w this is a fantastic start. So but before you go. Yes sir. I'm before you go, I'm pretty sure the council has some questions or thoughts for you in this aspect. So, um anybody? Certainly. Go right ahead. Mr. Young, why don't you wet their appetite a little bit? Let's give them a little teaser. [1:19:16, 1:19:35]: Yes, sir. So the first I can I can announce uh our first concert April the fourteenth, which will be the Isley Brothers and After Seven. Okay. Our first concert, which is really we have we're also bringing back I could little teaser, uh [1:19:35, 1:19:55]: Oh god, I gotta be careful because the contract is not signed. So but I gotta let you know that uh we have Zap and Cameo. What else can I talk about? Tower of Power. Tower of Power and um Robert Cray band. Who else can I have now? Babyface. Babyface Stokely Stokely. Why don't you tell them who else can we can [1:19:55, 1:20:01]: I don't have my list. Who else we can talk about? Okay. Um [1:20:03, 1:20:05]: Babyface, Stokely. Mm-hmm. [1:20:05, 1:20:20]: Fantasia and Joe Joe, um, Cameo, Zap, and the City. Yes, sir. That's enough, don't give'em no more. That's it. Thank you. Okay, all right, thank you. Anything else, Council? Any other questions for for uh for yes sir, go ahead please. [1:20:21, 1:20:22]: Uh [1:20:23, 1:20:29]: I don't know what to call you. I'm just gonna say this Stark Bridge Team. Yes, sir. Uh I'm very excited. [1:20:29, 1:20:31]: About the future. [1:20:31, 1:20:32]: Um [1:20:33, 1:20:40]: Harold, uh you know how we sort of feel about you. Uh we appreciate you being able to assemble [1:20:40, 1:20:42]: Uh this kind of a team. [1:20:42, 1:20:46]: to move the city of Stockbridge forward, the amphitheater. [1:20:46, 1:20:47]: So and [1:20:48, 1:20:53]: If you guys don't know me, Harold knows, so my expectations. [1:20:54, 1:20:55]: Are always high. [1:20:56, 1:20:58]: And I do feel that [1:20:58, 1:21:03]: My confidence in mister Young, what I have seen, his history. [1:21:03, 1:21:05]: I know he is dedicated. [1:21:05, 1:21:19]: He is concerned and he's always wanna make sure that Stockbridge is in a positive and in a great light. And this is what I appreciate about Mr. Young. So I feel [1:21:19, 1:21:20]: That [1:21:20, 1:21:22]: Him bringing you all on. [1:21:22, 1:21:24]: That you all have the same [1:21:26, 1:21:29]: accountability and mindset. [1:21:29, 1:21:30]: Two hip. [1:21:30, 1:21:31]: Uh [1:21:32, 1:21:33]: To move this city forward. [1:21:34, 1:21:54]: Thank you and welcome to the team of Stockbridge. All right. Outstanding, outstanding. Out of time. Wait a second, please. So the Honorable Mayor and all of the council members uh bid you hello from all the way from Marietta, Georgia. So um I actually um was talking with Mr. Young and one of the things that [1:21:54, 1:22:14]: was a deal breaker in order for me to even do this was that I needed to have enough gas money in order for me to get here each and every time that we have a concert because of the price of gas right now. And I want you to know that the comedy in which I'm going to be doing on stage and also in hosting and being very professional. I don't do a lot of cursing or anything like that. There won't be any cursing [1:22:14, 1:22:34]: 'Cause hell, this city has enough cussing as it is. So I know damn well that you don't want any more. Thank you. Outstanding. Outstanding. Happy New Year, gentlemen, and I've t we look forward to an o outstanding season. I know it's gonna be just great, fantastic, and we're gonna envy and the folks are gonna envy what we got going on down in the South Side. Yes, sir. [1:22:34, 1:22:54]: Mm you ask UAS. Mr. Young, I I I thank you all for coming on and um definitely looking for a great year. And whatever methodically that you guys have to do and move about just as long as you guys communicate with this council that we're all in on one accord and we're all moving the same way, that we don't compromise anything, that everything goes off the way it needs to go off and uh [1:22:54, 1:23:03]: You know, I'm I'm excited about the year and everybody uh on board'cause uh this year would definitely be the anomaly to what we need to be doing toward the future. Thank you. [1:23:03, 1:23:06]: Okay, fantastic. Any other guest ma'am, go ahead, please. [1:23:06, 1:23:26]: I wanted to ask um regarding sponsorship, not specifically who you've um secured so far, but I believe this gentleman is the one from the Urban League. Um can you tell me what your approach is? It's important to me for for sponsorships to secure as many. [1:23:26, 1:23:46]: As we can. What approach have you taken, or is that excuse me for a second? Okay. Has it been indicated to me that this is something probably we should not start discuss at this time frame in open public meetings? Something that would have to be done in more or less a closed session because you're dealing with the this type of sponsorship. So if you don't mind though, I asked for the approach. I didn't ask for [1:23:46, 1:23:55]: for packaging, I didn't ask for the levels, I didn't ask for specifics. Okay. The concept of the approach of how the process would go. [1:23:56, 1:23:58]: Approach us is a process in this aspect. [1:23:58, 1:23:58]: Good. [1:23:59, 1:24:02]: All right. All right. If you can do that, sir, that'd be fine. [1:24:03, 1:24:23]: Go ahead. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. Um, I I think like with anything, um, first thing you want to do is look at past history, um, what what organizations, what corporations have supported in the past. Uh renewals are always um the first place that you want to start. Um then you also look at the uh demographics, the people who um came to concerts on the [1:24:23, 1:24:43]: Last year. And then you try to find companies, corporations that match those demographics. That would be a very appealing from that perspective. So it starts off with a lot of research, number one. And you try to find the fits that will work in terms of the demographics of the city, the demographic of the participants, and also try to capture what [1:24:43, 1:24:57]: will meet their needs in terms of what they're looking for. So that's a very general concept, but that's the foundational basis of the way we would go. If you'd like to get more in depth, uh, you know, I can do that at another time if you in a closed session. [1:24:58, 1:24:59]: I will thank you. [1:25:00, 1:25:01]: Ms. Gann, do you have something else? [1:25:01, 1:25:21]: Well, just that um uh congratulations and thank you. I'm sure you guys are gonna do a phenomenal job. Um I look forward to working with you. I'm glad you guys are part of our family here in Stockbridge. Um in regards to sponsorship, I would hope that we look locally. Um there are quite a [1:25:21, 1:25:37]: few companies that have reached out to um even myself that are local that would love to be considered first. Exactly. Prior. And that and that's really important um to me. But um thank you guys for being here and I look forward to seeing you. [1:25:37, 1:25:57]: If everyone that way we can approach them because we don't we're not aware of those. Okay, good deal. We'll do that. Absolutely. Thank you. Thank you, gentlemen. Appreciate it. Happy new year to you. We look forward to a fantastic year this year. Thank you very much. Good deal. Appreciate you being here. All right. What we have next is actually our public hearings. We have several public hearings. [1:25:57, 1:26:17]: public hearings and the first public hearing deals with the annexation case AX-2022-01. The City of Stockbridge Planning Commission and the City of Stockbridge Mayor City Council will hear an annexation request by S3 Capital Investments LLC. The applicant represented by battle law P [1:26:17, 1:26:35]: The agent to annex a parcel as described below into the city stopbridge city limits upon incorporated uh from incorporated Henry County in order to allow the parcel to be combined with an adjacent parcel for an uh uh ages restricted res residential development. [1:26:36, 1:26:56]: Parcel number 071-01034012. Subject property is an unincorporated Henry County with the frontage of Highway 42 North across from Summit View Drive. Currently zoned MU mixed use with a land uh with a land use designation of mixed M I X mixed use. [1:26:56, 1:27:03]: use gonna contains twenty plus or so acres located in land lot thirty one of district seven. [1:27:04, 1:27:07]: Uh, the planning staff recommends the approval of this request. [1:27:07, 1:27:13]: with a twenty four month well excuse me with twenty four conditions on august twenty fifth, twenty twenty two. [1:27:13, 1:27:18]: The planning commission recommended approval of this request. The city council postponed their vote. [1:27:18, 1:27:25]: on this item until january ninth, twenty twenty three meeting in order to await the decision of the Henry County Board of Commissioners. [1:27:25, 1:27:26]: Who offered an objection [1:27:27, 1:27:28]: To the anglication. [1:27:28, 1:27:42]: However, at the November 14, 2022 Henry County Board of Commissioners, Henry County rescinded the objection, which allowed the city council to render a final decision on the annexation and accompanying zoning request for this proposed project. [1:27:43, 1:27:53]: And Ryan, Mr. Anderson, please. All right, thank you, Mayor. Um on August twenty fifth, two thousand twenty two, the Planning Commission unanimous unanimously approved this item. [1:28:00, 1:28:03]: As you can see here's a aerial topo of the site. [1:28:04, 1:28:07]: Located at twenty-one twenty-five highway forty-two north. [1:28:08, 1:28:09]: Um [1:28:12, 1:28:19]: Background information, the applicant is proposing to to develop an independent living, age restricted residential development. [1:28:20, 1:28:40]: The site address once again is 1225 Highway 42 North across from Summit View Drive and Highway 42 North at Technology Parkway. The parcel is currently located in unincorporated Herring County. The parcel size contains 20.01 acres. The applicant is S3 Capital Investments. The owner is Southern Credit. [1:28:40, 1:28:53]: Rehabilitation and retirement community. The current county zone is MU, which stands for mixed use. The current city zone is none yet. The county land use designation is MIX, which stands for mixed use. [1:28:53, 1:29:13]: And the current use of the properties is the Southern Crescent Rehabilitation and Retirement Center. The surrounding land uses to the north, you got vacant land. South and west, you got Magnolia's at Eagles Landing Subdivision. East you got an industrial warehouse and highlands at Eagles Landing Subdivision. And the Summit at Eagles Landing Subdivision and a Thai restaurant. [1:29:16, 1:29:17]: Um [1:29:18, 1:29:38]: This applicant also has a has has applied for a comprehensive plan amendment and a rezoning application. The applicant would also need to, after successful annexation, he would also need to recombine the two parcels into one, and that can be done administratively by community development staff. There's a stream, a small stream borders the property. [1:29:38, 1:29:41]: To the north, it appears to be a tributary of Wolf Creek. [1:29:44, 1:30:04]: Uh once again I go with the the project description. There's two there's there are two tracts of land like I previously mentioned. Tract one would include the existing Southern Crescent Rehab and Retirement Center and the construction of a hundred new independent living units, including seven detached units and 93 attached units with a density rate of five units per acre. [1:30:04, 1:30:24]: Track two, which is currently vacant, will feature the construction of 176 independent living units, including 52 detached units and 124 attached units with a density of eight units per acre. The total development, including both parcels, will contain 276 independent living units with a density of 6.5. [1:30:24, 1:30:26]: point six units per acre. [1:30:29, 1:30:32]: Uh amenities. Each track would have its own set of amenities. [1:30:35, 1:30:39]: Here's a copy of the uh on the screen is a copy of the boundary survey. [1:30:43, 1:30:45]: Here's a copy of Henry County zoning map. [1:30:47, 1:30:47]: It's current [1:30:50, 1:31:01]: Here's the land use designation map from Henry County. And uh on the screen now is a rendering, well not a rendering, but actually the concept site plan and the layout. [1:31:02, 1:31:06]: Uh right here is a rendering of the of the units and what they will look like. [1:31:14, 1:31:34]: Um and analysis of requests. The subject property is contiguous with this with the city to the north, which be which be which would be combined with the subject property to form the overall proposed development. Water and sewer services are provided by Heron County Water Authority. Fire and EMS services are provided by Heron County. Electricity is provided by Georgia Power. [1:31:34, 1:31:54]: Power Company. Police services are currently provided by Henry County, but this would change to the city of Star Stockbridge if the annexation is successful. The applicant proposed proposes to maintain the existing rehabilitation and rehab facility and to construct 100 independent units on the subject property. Consistency with the city [1:31:54, 1:32:14]: City's company. The subject property is located outside the city. It has a Henry County land use designation of MIX mixed use. The adjacent tract to the north, which will be combined with the subject property for the proposed development, has a land use designation of low density residential and light industrial. Although the applicants propose [1:32:14, 1:32:27]: Comprehensive plan amendment on this of the subject property to high density res residential would not be compatible with these designations. The applicant also seeks to change the land use designation of Track Two to High Density Residential. [1:32:28, 1:32:47]: the positive effects of this d proposed uh annexation. The developer will m maintain will maintain the existing Creston Center Rehabilitation and Rehabilitation Center since many of the proposed residential units will be located to the rear of this facility or the at the end of Technology Parkway. [1:32:49, 1:33:09]: The proposed development may not be visible from Highway 42. Impact on adjacent property owners. To the south and west of the subject property lies the Magnolia Eagles Landing subdivision, which appears to be fully developed. The proposed residential units will be near the lots in that subdivision, but a significant buffer is shown on the site plan. [1:33:09, 1:33:13]: It may be prudent for a developer to also install a fence along the perimeter of the property. [1:33:14, 1:33:27]: uh impact on city infrastructure. A letter from Herman County Water Authority dated March 23rd, 2022, stated that water service, sewage treatment, and sewer line capacity are all available for the subject property. [1:33:28, 1:33:48]: Uh traffic and transportation impact. The developer should coordinate with Henry County DOT and Georgia DOT regarding possible intersection improvements at Highway 42 North and Technology Drive. The city fire marshal approved the proposed new entrance of Highway 42 and the internal site circulation. A deceleration [1:33:48, 1:33:49]: Yeah. [1:33:55, 1:34:07]: Potential environmental impacts. The developer will need to coordinate with city engineers and other environmental officials regarding a bridge crossing over the existing lake, as well as protection of sensitive floodplains. [1:34:08, 1:34:28]: Staff recommendation. The proposed annexation is reasonable in view of the following. The applicant plans to include the subject parcel with the adjacent parcel for a proposed independent living, age-restricted development, traversing both parcels, the surrounding land use and conditions, and the satisfactory finding of. [1:34:28, 1:34:41]: the analysis criteria above. The community development staff therefore recommends approval of AX 202201 for the annexation of the subject property at 2125 Highway 42 North into the City of Stockbridge limits. [1:34:42, 1:34:43]: That's it. [1:34:43, 1:34:49]: Thank you, Mr. Ryan. Appreciate that. Council, any questions for Ryan at all? Questions, concerns? [1:34:51, 1:35:10]: Okay. If there are none, then this is a public hearing uh in this aspect. Uh so I need to open it up in public hearing. So any comments? Sir. Um yes. Point of order. The applicant needs to uh is given an opportunity to make a presentation. All right, we can do that. Que wait Miss Battle. [1:35:10, 1:35:13]: Use my PowerPoint um thing that I said over. [1:35:14, 1:35:34]: Okay, we're gonna roll with what staff here's has here today. I sent over my PowerPoint, but it didn't appear to get here. Um, no problem. I just tried to resend it too, just in case. Um Michelle Battle with Battle Law, 3562, Habersham at North Lake, Tucker, Georgia. Um, we are extremely excited about. [1:35:34, 1:35:54]: This proposed project. I don't want to be redundant with what staff has um already indicated. We really just want to be here to answer questions. Um but um Dr. Sowie uh and his son are here this evening. Um they have been working on this particular um proposal for quite some time. Uh they originally um sought from [1:35:54, 1:36:02]: Henry County to rezone the property that is currently in Henry County, well, that that we're trying to annex in to the city. [1:36:02, 1:36:22]: Um they rezoned that um for the first what I would call phase one of the project, where we had a hundred units that will be age-restricted, that would be adjacent to their traumatic brain injury facility. And the intent here was to allow not only for um independent. [1:36:22, 1:36:42]: Seniors to live within this community, but also for those who may be in the traumatic brain facility, that they might be able to transition out and have some space there to make their transition back into a routine, something pleasant for them. [1:36:42, 1:37:02]: because a lot of people when they come out of the facility may not have a place to go or someplace nearby that would allow them to transition back into everyday life. And so we thought that this was an excellent opportunity for that type of a facility, but also to provide much needed housing for seniors. [1:37:02, 1:37:17]: As you know, that um the senior population is one of the fastest growing populations because of the baby boomers aging. Um and there's a lot of push to have age-restricted communities. Um this annexation. [1:37:17, 1:37:37]: It's very timely from our perspective. If you um have been watching the news, the city uh the county uh just put in a moratorium on um all multifamily townhome and uh uh duplexes. And that means that if we stayed in the county, we would not be able to even put in for a building. [1:37:37, 1:37:57]: Permit on this application, even though it's already zoned for over a year. And so that would just stall out this great need for senior housing because we do have the townhome component mixed with single-family detached units as well. And so this very holistic approach to providing. [1:37:57, 1:38:17]: Senior housing allows people not only to go in as an independent senior, but also there's an aspect of assisted living by having the traumatic brain injury facility there that really will allow people to stay there and age in place because they will have the opportunity to utilize services if needed on an emergency basis. [1:38:17, 1:38:37]: Particularly for those who don't that didn't come through the traumatic brain injury facility, but would have access to the medical staff there if they had some type of emergency. The site itself will have two different community facilities that will both have pools and [1:38:37, 1:38:57]: Cabana, a lot of opportunity for community, and we'll also provide a great amenity package with trails, walkability, all of those things will be present on the site. So we're really excited about the project. We hope that you all are excited about the project. [1:38:57, 1:39:17]: And we are here to answer any questions that you may have. Mayor. Yeah, go ahead, please. Yes, uh thank you, Ms. Battle, for coming forward. I think, you know, in the previous discussion that we had had for all transparency, uh, this was something that we really thought was important for the community because as you indicated that senior house [1:39:17, 1:39:37]: Housing was something that uh there's a dearth of in the in the area and in the community, and I get that phone call on a regular basis. What uh what are we gonna do for the seniors? And it's an age-restricted uh community. Now I do understand that uh Henry County withdrew their objection, but they tried it to. [1:39:37, 1:39:57]: To uh impose some conditions which they really couldn't there was really nothing that they could do to stop the uh uh annexation. Are you trying to adhere by those? So um we have spoken with staff um with regards to that. Um the conditions there are 19 conditions that staff has proposed um that are [1:39:57, 1:40:17]: Consistent with what was proposed by Henry County. There are a few minor tweaks that we have discussed making to those because they don't reflect the totality of the project. They were very specific, sorry, very specific to just the hundred units that were in Henry County and that really. [1:40:17, 1:40:37]: really does not cover um the entire project. So there were a couple of conditions um that we did need uh to make some modifications to and I believe staff is supportive of those changes. And I'm not sure if we can put that up. Oh, they will be gotten to in the rezoning. So well I I [1:40:37, 1:40:46]: think because the annexation wouldn't be conditioned on the in any kind of conditions that would come through on the rezoning component. So we're not [1:40:47, 1:41:07]: We're not there yet. You're not there yet. No, sir. Because I think in our group, in our discussion, we had uh I think you were on the call, right, Miss Barber? Where we talked with Miss Battle about the uh uh this community. Yes. Yes. About put about uh the buried and there was going to be some um multiple. [1:41:07, 1:41:27]: The family rentals were senior citizens. That's that is correct. So that they could afford that. Yes. And that that is still present within their compatibility. I thought that was contrary to what their their request was. No, so these units will be fee simple units, um, but the declarant will be able to rent units. Um that's very important. [1:41:27, 1:41:47]: Um, from our perspective, we're not looking for the individual homeowners to be able to rent units out, but we want to be able to preserve that ability for the declarant because of the fact that we are gonna have some of these assisted living units there and for people who might be transitioning out of the um traumatic. [1:41:46, 1:42:06]: Brain injury facility, we want to make sure that there's an affordability component to this. Additionally, there may be some seniors who can't actually afford to do the 300,000 roughly price point on some of the units. And so that would allow some units to be rental there as well. But this is not intended to be 100%. [1:42:06, 1:42:26]: Percent rental community, it will be a fee simple community. Absolutely. But again, to preserve that right for seniors in the community to have some additional space where that is affordable. I think that was very important to us that that uh because you know we get that call all the time. And for them to be in the community. [1:42:26, 1:42:46]: Community and to be very specific, this is a aged community, which is fifty-five and over, so it has to be someone who is a senior who would be the renter, correct? Correct. Okay. All right. And then uh in addition to that, uh the conditions, I think Highway 42 is along the highway corridor. Is that correct, Warren? Ryan? [1:42:46, 1:42:57]: Yes. Plan which will require the ten foot multi use pass along the frontage on Highway Forty Two in adherence to the highway corridor or the parkway corridor that for the city. [1:42:58, 1:43:18]: That that's correct. We're we I didn't hear proportion. He's saying the highway corridor overlay. Yes. Okay. Yeah. Right. So the path and the frontage off of this property. There's currently no sidewalk there, so they would have the ten foot path to assist with that. Correct. Because okay. All right. So we want to make sure that that's done along with the beautification. [1:43:18, 1:43:23]: Uh that's required in the parkway corridor. Yes. All right, thank you. [1:43:24, 1:43:29]: Any other questions, counsel? Anybody? For for an applicant. Yes. [1:43:31, 1:43:32]: Yes, sir. [1:43:40, 1:43:42]: So so short term rentals. [1:43:43, 1:43:45]: So is that gonna be barrel or [1:43:46, 1:44:00]: So I uh I think that we've left some flexibility there. What we know is that people who will be coming out of the the traumatic brain facility that may want to stay because they are seniors and they want to stay in place there, um that [1:44:01, 1:44:17]: They may want to be there long term, but I wouldn't really see someone coming out and just they're like thirty days or sixty days. Um the intent here is if they're gonna move into that space that they would need to be there for a little while. So, you know, maybe a year or two um of being um on on site. [1:44:21, 1:44:31]: I wouldn't look at that short term like like I said, not like a short term Airbnb ish kind of moment. It would be somebody that would actually need to be there as they are rehabbing. [1:44:33, 1:44:45]: One follow-up question. Go ahead, please. No, the price point would be real well between two fifty and three, somewhere around there. Yes. But the market is what it is. So is that what we're looking at? Yes. All right. [1:44:46, 1:44:47]: Council, any other questions? [1:44:49, 1:45:09]: All right. You got a question, Ms. Barton? Okay, okay. Thank you. Appreciate that. I'm gonna open up the public hearing. All right. For a public hearing, I need uh anybody on my left, which would be on this side over here, if you have any uh positive comments for this particular uh development. Positive comments for my left. See nothing. [1:45:09, 1:45:10]: Middle. [1:45:11, 1:45:18]: Far right. My far right, nothing. Okay. Any comments against this particular development? Am I far left? [1:45:20, 1:45:20]: In the middle. [1:45:22, 1:45:32]: My far right. Seeing none. So I will close no comments for or against. I'll close that public hearing. And on that note, council, I need a motion to accept this proposal. Yes, ma'am. Yes, sir. [1:45:33, 1:45:46]: Since this is in my new district district number five, I'd like to recommend approval of this particular project. Uh it enhances the quality of life and uh offers uh senior housing. [1:45:46, 1:46:06]: Good deal, is there a second? Miss uh Miss Gan, second then. All all in favor of the motion, please indicate. Okay, unanimous decision. Thank you very much. Congratulations. Okay. Okay, now let's move on. Uh comprehensive plan um amendment case CP two oh two, excuse me, two zero two two two-two. [1:46:06, 1:46:06]: Mm. [1:46:06, 1:46:26]: Consideration of a comprehensive plan amendment request by S3 Capital Investments LLC, the applicant represented by Battle Law PC, the agent, to change the future land use designation of certain parcels as are described below from the light industrial to mixed use to high density resources. [1:46:26, 1:46:31]: residential in order to allow for age restricted residential development. [1:46:32, 1:46:43]: Parcel number 071-0103-4014, located within the city limits, stopward city limits with the frontage on Highway 42 North and s and situated at the end of Technology Parkway. [1:46:44, 1:46:51]: Applicant proposes to change the current land use designation from light industrial to high density residential. [1:46:52, 1:46:58]: Continent's at twenty two point zero one plus or minus acres located in land lot thirty one district seven. [1:46:59, 1:47:09]: Process number 071-01034012. Subject property is in unincorporated Henry County with frontage on Highway 42 North. [1:47:09, 1:47:29]: Across from Summit View Drive, applicant proposed to change the current county land use designation of mixed use to the city land use designation of high density residential after the parcel is annexed into the City of Stockbridge city limits. Uh twenty uh twenty acres located in land lot thirty-one of district seven. Planning staff. [1:47:29, 1:47:49]: Recommend approval of this request on August 25th, 2022. The Planning Commission recommended approval of this request. The item was delayed in connection with associated annexation case, and that is it. So, Mr. Ryan, please, sir. Okay. Well, once again, um, like the mayor said, the planning commission unanimously. [1:47:49, 1:47:57]: Unanimously approved this item on August 25th, 2022. Uh on your screen now is the aerial photo of the site. [1:48:01, 1:48:04]: There's aerial site of both parcels combined. [1:48:15, 1:48:16]: Okay. [1:48:16, 1:48:36]: Track one, uh I'll just briefly uh go over this because I previously went over this. For the sake of time, I won't go through all this stuff again. Um uh track one is located at 2125 Highway 42 and unincorporated Henry County. Uh you got you guys just recently approved to annex this into the city. Uh the applicant proposed the [1:48:36, 1:48:56]: Change the current Henry County land use designation of mixed use to the city of Stockbridge land use designation of higher density residential. Since the parcel has been annexed into the Stockbridge city limits. Also, the applicant has a companion rezoning application. Track two is already located within the city of Stockbridge with furniture on house. [1:48:56, 1:49:00]: Highway forty two and situated at the end of Technology Parkway. [1:49:01, 1:49:11]: Um once again the applicant will be developing an independent age restricted residential community. Um the applic the applicant is S3 Capital Investments. [1:49:15, 1:49:35]: Uh additional finding of facts. If the pro since the proposed annexation has been approved and the applicant wishes to proceed with the proposed development, then the applicant would need to combine both parcels for the for both the requested comprehensive plan amendment and the requested rezoning. [1:49:35, 1:49:51]: Combination plat application would be required and it could be handled administratively. Also, once again, a small stream borders the property to the south. It appears to be a tributary of Wolf Creek. Here's the boundary survey for track one. A boundary survey of both parcels. [1:49:54, 1:50:02]: Uh the Henry County zoning map. And you can see that the um the parcel to be annexed is highlighted on the map. [1:50:04, 1:50:12]: This is the City of Stockbridge zoning map. We have a legend on there. You can read and see that the different types of land uses in the area. [1:50:15, 1:50:17]: This is the Henry County land use designation map. [1:50:20, 1:50:22]: This is the conceptual site plan. [1:50:23, 1:50:25]: I'll blow it up a little bit. [1:50:31, 1:50:40]: So you can see the layout of the property. And once again, these these are the this is the rendering of the uh units and what they will look like. [1:50:42, 1:51:02]: uh the analysis of requests. The proposed development is not consistent with the comprehensive land use designation for the subject property. The requested comprehensive plan amendment for the proposed land use designation change is necessary because the current land use designation do not allow the type of development for which the applicant is proposing or do [1:51:02, 1:51:22]: or they do not allow the proposed residential densities. The applicant therefore proposes to change the future land use designation to the of the two parcels as follows. Track one, from uh which was formerly located in Herring County, from mixed use to high density residential. Track two, which is in this already in the city, from light industrial and low [1:51:22, 1:51:42]: Density verse vertical mix use to high to high density residential. The existing light industrial land use designation does not allow residential use uses and existing low density vertical mixed use land use designation is intended for buildings which contain commercial uses on the ground floor and resident. [1:51:42, 1:51:45]: Residential units. Residential use on the upper floor. [1:51:46, 1:52:01]: The properties requested zoning districts are not permitted with within the city's existing land use designations. To allow for the proposed development, the applicant therefore requested the rezoning of the subject property via RZ22-02, which will be heard after this case. [1:52:04, 1:52:09]: Uh finally, the staff recommends approval of the requested comprehensive plan amendment. [1:52:11, 1:52:16]: All right, Council. Thank you, Mr. Ryan. Thank you, Ryan. Council, any questions for Ryan at all? Yes. Go right, please. [1:52:16, 1:52:28]: Uh and Miss Bowder, you can come on up too. Let me uh in terms of this development, and I think, you know, from my perspective, what we did on Campground Road was [1:52:28, 1:52:48]: you know, protect the residential areas and it so that we could uh prohibit unwanted development. In this case, uh this development is zoned currently light industrial, which would uh right next to these residential areas would allow some unwanted development. Two types of things would go and uh [1:52:48, 1:53:08]: This uh light industrial development of this has not changed. Uh things like warehouses, um like um truck stop man? Yeah, truck stops and heavy commercial uses and um some auto repair and things of that nature. [1:53:08, 1:53:28]: Absolutely. And that's why we made the decision to allow Winding Creek subdivision on Campground Road and Winding Creek townhomes because it protected the residential. Sometimes we take these zonings when they come forward as an opportunity to protect the residents in the area where we can make sure that this is residentially developed going forward. [1:53:28, 1:53:46]: forward uh in keeping with what is in the in the area because nobody that live in the magnolia that Eagles Landing or the summit at Eagles Landing wants a truck stop or a warehouse uh in their residential area. So this is uh these is consistent with what we've done uh in the past. [1:53:47, 1:54:07]: Uh also uh in terms of the connectivity, we when we talked about this, we talked about uh the connection to Technology Parkway and then potentially talking with G Dot about a traffic light uh at uh Technology Parkway to assist the seniors in exiting uh this neighborhood. [1:54:07, 1:54:08]: Yeah. [1:54:08, 1:54:28]: Yes, uh they will have to coordinate with Henry County DOT DOT and uh G Dot on the traffic uh light. Um also we're requesting that they do a traffic study. So all after all those um factors are taken into consideration, a determination will be made on whether or not they can approve a a traffic signal or not or not based on their research. [1:54:29, 1:54:39]: Okay. I is that what the intent is, Ms. Battle, to deceit and assist these residents who have requested a traffic light at this area? [1:54:39, 1:54:59]: Uh Michelle Battle with Battle Law 3562 Habersham at North Lake, Tucker, Georgia, 30084. Um yes, we are prepared to do the traffic study and um discuss with uh GDOT the um installation of the traffic lag. I know that that was something that was already being pursued and we believe that the um additional [1:54:59, 1:55:18]: units should help with the warrant study with regards to that. But as we know, the Department Georgia Department of Transportation requires a traffic warrant study to be done to determine whether or not a traffic light is suitable. So again that will be a part of our process. All right. Thank you. [1:55:19, 1:55:21]: Council, any other questions for um [1:55:22, 1:55:26]: Ryan or Miss Battle. And if not, it's once again this is a public hearing. [1:55:26, 1:55:28]: Uh so I'll open this up. [1:55:28, 1:55:45]: I'll start on my left hand side for uh any comments for uh this change to occur. On my left side, in the middle, and my far right. Anyone oppose on my left side? [1:55:45, 1:56:05]: The middle on far right. I see no oppositions, no uh no approvals. Uh so I will close the public hearing. On that note, council, I need a motion to accept this change. Mayor, I'd like to make a motion uh for approval of as recommended by staff and the additional uh comments made by the applicant. Ms. Barber, do you want to [1:56:05, 1:56:25]: second that second okay it is great so if on that note all in favor please indicate all right unanimous decision fantastic congratulations all right um rezoning case rz 2022 zero two consideration for rezoning request of s3 capital investments lc the applicant [1:56:25, 1:56:34]: Represented by uh Battle Law PC. Uh the agent uh agent to re to rezone certain property from [1:56:34, 1:56:54]: Office institutional O L to L I Light Industrial and the Starbucks City Limits and Mix MU Mixed Use in the Unincorporated Henry County of PUD Plan Unit Development to allow for an age restricted residential development. The property contains two parcels and are listed uh with four. [1:56:54, 1:57:14]: 42.01 acres. Processal number 071-01034014. Located within the Stobber City limits with frontage on Highway 42 North, situated at the end of Technology Parkway. Currently zoned OI Office Institutional and LI Light Industrial. [1:57:14, 1:57:24]: Property also lies within the Parkway Mixed Use Overlay District, contains twenty two point zero one acres, located located in landlot thirty-one of District 7. [1:57:24, 1:57:33]: Process number 071-0103-4012. Subject property in the unincorporated Henry County with frontage on Highway 42 North. [1:57:33, 1:57:37]: Across was Summit View Drive, currently zone MU mixed use. [1:57:38, 1:57:41]: Contains twenty acres located in landlock thirty one of District Seven. [1:57:41, 1:57:45]: Planning staff recommend approval of this request on august twenty fifth, twenty twenty two. [1:57:46, 1:58:06]: Planning Commission recommended approval of this request. The City Council postponed the vote on this item until January 9, 2023 meeting in order to await the decision of the Henry County Board of Commissioners who offered an objection to the annexation. However, at the November 14, 2022, Henry County Board of Commissioners, Henry County rescinded their objection, which allows [1:58:06, 1:58:21]: for the city council to render a final decision on the anxious on the annexation and accompany zoning uh request for this proposal project. This item was delayed in con uh connection with the associated annexation request. Ryan, please. [1:58:21, 1:58:22]: Thank you. Uh [1:58:22, 1:58:25]: on the screen. Uh once again um [1:58:25, 1:58:33]: I'd like to reiterate that the um planning commission voted unanimously to approve this item right here. On the screen now we have um [1:58:34, 1:58:36]: Uh aerial photo of the site. [1:58:37, 1:58:42]: Uh on the screen now is an area photo of both sites and what the site will look like after it's combined. [1:58:44, 1:58:45]: Um [1:58:52, 1:59:00]: The applicant is seeking to um to rezone to PUD. The two parcels combined will have a total acreage of 42 acres. [1:59:09, 1:59:29]: Uh once again, this the pro the project description is independent age restricted residential development to include both parcels. Track one would include the existing Southern Crescent Rehabilitation and Retirement Center and the construction of a hundred new independent living units, including seven detached units and ninety-three attached units with a density of five units per acre. [1:59:29, 1:59:49]: Two, which is currently vacant, will feature the construction of 176 independent living units, including 52 detached units and 124 attached units, with a density of eight units per acre. The total development, including both parcels, will contain 276 independent units independent living units with a density rate of 6.6 units. [1:59:49, 1:59:58]: units per acre. Um we've already heard the two companion application. We heard the index annexation, which was approved, and um comp plan amendment that was approved. [2:00:03, 2:00:05]: Uh, here's a picture of the boundary survey. [2:00:09, 2:00:14]: Boundary survey of both parcels. Uh here's a picture of Henry County's zoning map. [2:00:18, 2:00:20]: City of Stockbridge zoning map. [2:00:24, 2:00:27]: Henry Herring County's land use designation map. [2:00:28, 2:00:33]: And a con here's a conceptual site plan which you've seen two times already, so [2:00:36, 2:00:45]: Here's a picture of the rendering of the proposed units. They'll be made mostly out of hardy paint and contain two-car and single-car garages. [2:00:47, 2:00:56]: Uh the proposed development is not consistent with the comprehensive plan and land use designation for the subject property. The comprehensive plan amendment is needed. [2:00:58, 2:01:04]: Because the the current land use designation do not allow the type of development which the applicant is proposing. [2:01:05, 2:01:07]: Um there we [2:01:10, 2:01:30]: Okay. Rationale for the rezoning. The rezoning of the subject property to requested PUD is necessary because the proposed development would include both attached and detached units as well as the existing Southern Crescent Rehabilitation and Retirement Center. The property is justified for rezoning to PUD as opposed to MFR due to the inclusion. [2:01:29, 2:01:45]: Of the Southern Crescent and the presence of the Wolf Creek tributary and its associated floodplains, which necessitates some flexibility in site design, which the PUD zoning district allowed. Since the proposed development would be primarily composed [2:01:45, 2:02:05]: A residential use is the requested PUD zoning would be compatible with the MFR zoning districts to the west, south, and east, where the Magnolias at Eagles Landing, the Highlands at Eagles Landing, and the Summit at Eagles Landing subdivisions are located. PUD zoning would also serve as a good transition from the LI and OID. [2:02:05, 2:02:25]: Districts to the north. Further, a PUD zoning district will be compatible comparable to Henry County's MU mixed-use zoning district for track one. The subject property has an unusual shape and is traversed by a tributary of Wolf Creek. These may present challenges to the final site. [2:02:25, 2:02:45]: Design of the property. The applicant's conceptual site plan showed that due to the presence of the screen, the proposed residential units would need to be separated into northern and southern sections on the site. A bridge would likely be needed to needed to be constructed over the creek, and the units in the southern section would be constructed away from the floodplains. [2:02:45, 2:03:05]: Impact upon adjacent property owners. The proposed development would be compatible with adjacent residential uses to the west, south, and east. And it would be a good transition from the warehouse uses and church uses to the north. Impact on the water and sewage system. A letter from Heron County Water Authorities dated March 23rd, 2020. [2:03:05, 2:03:17]: 22 state that water service, sewage treatment, and sewer line treatment are available at the subject property, but that the proposed project layout conflicts with an existing eight-inch sewer line. [2:03:18, 2:03:38]: Traffic and transportation impact. The conceptual site plan shows that the proposed development would have three accesses. These include the existing driveway, which serves the Southern Crescent Rehabilitation and Retirement Center, the extension of Technology Parkway, and a new access from Highway 42 across from Glenmore Drive. Since Highway 42 is the [2:03:38, 2:03:55]: state route, the developer should coordinate with both Georgia DOT and Henry County DOT and providing deceleration lanes at all three accesses, as well as the possible installation of a new traffic signal. Pedestrian crosswalks should also be installed. [2:03:57, 2:04:17]: Uh the proposed development qualifies for the requested PUD zoning because it meets the requirement that PUD district contains the two contains at least two types of residential uses. The proposed development would also further the objectives of the parkway mixed use overlay district by including a mixture of land uses representing an attractive gate. [2:04:17, 2:04:37]: Gateway into the city and representing an innovative type of development. Suitability on the present zoning. Track one could be developed under its existing Henry County zoning classification of MU since it is similar to that of the city's PUD. Track two could also be developed with additional warehouses and office institutional uses. [2:04:36, 2:04:46]: However, due to the regular shape attract to the development of those types of uses may be challenging and PUD zoning offers greater flexibility in land use and site design. [2:04:49, 2:05:00]: Um based on those based on meeting those criteria, staff recommends approval with um 19 conditions. [2:05:01, 2:05:02]: Um [2:05:04, 2:05:12]: Okay. Okay. Um Ryan, uh Council, I guess Miss Battle you might want to come kinda mic just in case of or or Miss Carter. [2:05:13, 2:05:13]: Um [2:05:14, 2:05:17]: Uh you have additional comments, Ms. Carter? [2:05:17, 2:05:20]: Uh just a few. [2:05:22, 2:05:31]: What what you see is we we've broken down the conditions, let me make this a little larger. We've broken down the conditions by category and that'll oop [2:05:37, 2:05:38]: We come back. [2:05:41, 2:05:45]: Like twenty twenty seven or twenty. [2:05:45, 2:05:52]: Well you have it in front of you. Um we may have some technical difficulties with the conditions, but we broke them down in categories by um [2:05:52, 2:05:57]: 'Cause the rezonings are where you put conditions on projects. And [2:05:57, 2:06:00]: Of course they had to get the annexation approval. [2:06:00, 2:06:20]: They had to get the comprehensive plan amendment, which you both which you all um approved tonight. And then, of course, they do have to do a recombination approval to combine the two parcels into one to begin the development process. And then what we've done is in front of you, you guys have um you have the uh order and [2:06:20, 2:06:40]: Sewer availability portion, the adherence to conceptual site plan, and building and development, where we've put in 19 conditions within that that were specific to the original rezoning when the county took place, when the county approved this several years ago. We did remove a few, but [2:06:40, 2:06:55]: But it still stands true to the primary wishes that the county had that the city agrees with from the staff perspective. And this is what our recommendation is. So if the applicant has anything. [2:06:55, 2:07:15]: We we just in case uh council you have any questions for Ms. Car Carter at all? Yeah one. Okay. Excuse me. I have one. Go ahead, please. Certainly uh this project uh would be an enhancement for the area. The only question is well, there's some discussions with Henry County. I know Highway forty two is in a long term widening uh for the roadway. I think [2:07:15, 2:07:25]: it maybe twenty twenty seven, twenty twenty eight, something like that, some way out. But uh hopefully this would uh help aid in some of that uh trap traffic release until that comes forward. [2:07:26, 2:07:36]: Correct. Um the requirement and what we talked about earlier was the traffic study. That is one of the zoning conditions here for the applicant to adhere with to that to Henry County and the city. [2:07:37, 2:07:37]: True. [2:07:38, 2:07:40]: Any other questions from Ms. Carter Council? [2:07:40, 2:08:00]: If not a question for Ms. Battle, who's here present as well. So uh Michelle Battle with Battle Law 3562, Haversham at North Lake, Tucker, Georgia. Um there were a couple of the conditions um that we wanted to make sure, I don't know, did you have that markup? Um, that we wanted to make sure um had been adjusted. [2:08:00, 2:08:04]: addressed um as a part of the zoning. [2:08:58, 2:09:18]: So while um while we're kinda looking for that document trying to get that, well one of the things um that was a a change which was a change in the name of the facility. So on your one of your first conditions under number six, you have a it talks about a memory care facility, um, but it [2:09:17, 2:09:37]: after speaking with the applicant, it in fact is considered a trauma brain facility instead of memory care. And then there was one other change that was actually very specific to the Henry County rezoning that did no longer applied to some degree. [2:09:37, 2:09:41]: And it was letter I [2:09:42, 2:09:52]: as it talks about there being a limit to the maximum of uh uh sixty units, that should in fact be one hundred dwelling units. [2:09:55, 2:09:57]: Okay, here we are. Alrighty. [2:10:11, 2:10:11]: Okay. [2:10:16, 2:10:36]: So you see here is depicted as it speaks of an approved development permit shall be limited to a maximum of 60 dwelling units. That was when the project was only 100 units total in the in Henry County. But having a hundred units where you have to [2:10:36, 2:10:56]: have an approved development permit is is amenable on the staff level. And we would just remove references to Henry County. And then we would add where it talks about the 61st unit, we would require that to be the 101st. [2:10:56, 2:10:56]: [7858.9, 7860.1]: If that's as clear as mud. [2:11:01, 2:11:03]: So w when these appropriate changes will take place? [2:11:05, 2:11:17]: So as as part of the zoning conditions. Okay. It would be those would be the um the recommendations from staff. Okay. Um that we're amenable to the applicant as they're just some minor typos. Right. [2:11:19, 2:11:39]: And just to reiterate, um the issue with regards to item nine is that um it was originally anticipated that um there was going to be a second entrance point that would have been off-site. And so um what we are doing is clarifying that there are going to actually be three points of entry um and the way that [2:11:39, 2:11:59]: That they had it was that you couldn't get past the sixty f 60th unit until that second entrance was installed. And what we are saying is we're gonna have three points of entry. Um, and we would like to have up to a hundred units because we now have over two hundred units. So um [2:11:59, 2:12:12]: The hundred units seems to be reasonable. The sixty not so much when we are now increasing by two fold the total number of units that are being installed. So basically what we all we're saying is that [2:12:13, 2:12:33]: Until we have two or more entrance points, we can't build over a hundred units. Um and we know that as a part of the um transportation study that is a part of the conditions, that we will have to agree to make all of the right-of-way improvements and the installation. [2:12:33, 2:12:53]: Of the three points of entry over the course of the development of the of the project. So that is why we are asking for that change. So again, instead of it being you can't build any more units until you install, or can't build more than 60 units until you install two entrance points, we would like to [2:12:53, 2:13:05]: to say we can't build any more units until we uh up to a hundred. We can build up to a hundred units, but we can't build that hundred and first unit until we have two or more points of entry. [2:13:05, 2:13:25]: I appreciate the I appreciate the clarification. That's that's helpful for me. I was hoping it's helpful for the council as well. Right. Thank you. And and and then the only other thing was as stated was the fact that we are a traumatic brain injury um facility and not a memory care facility. Um there was also one other point with regards to the [2:13:25, 2:13:26]: Um [2:13:27, 2:13:47]: number of pavilions that was being provided. Um in number five it talks about the community center, which we are building with the fitness and the meeting rooms and the business center. We will have the two cabanas, the two swimming pools, which contains the outdoor areas with the walking trails. I believe we were only doing two. [2:13:47, 2:14:07]: Pavilions and those pavilions again will be the clubhouses. There will be two separate clubhouses. So we just wanted to point, make that one last point that we would like that to say two pavilions as opposed to three. But again, we've got two complete clubhouse. [2:14:07, 2:14:12]: with Pool and and all the other amenities in two different locations on the site. [2:14:13, 2:14:13]: Okay. [2:14:14, 2:14:20]: Council, questions. Yes. Ms. Carter, is that consistent with what the staff recommendation? [2:14:21, 2:14:27]: Um we are just hearing about the the reduction in the number of pavilions, but outside of that, um yes. [2:14:28, 2:14:40]: What's your p what's your opinion on that? I I think it'd be fine. Um the amenities in accordance with the current code are are beyond they're re putting in beyond what's required of the code today. [2:14:40, 2:14:41]: All right, thank you. [2:14:42, 2:14:45]: Questions, council, any other questions, concerns? [2:14:46, 2:14:48]: Yeah, I'm not sure. Go ahead, sir. [2:14:57, 2:15:00]: Three dollar two. You got an image. [2:15:01, 2:15:21]: Um in this it requires the pavilions to be no less than twelve hundred square feet, and I know that the um clubhouses won't be uh less than that. They'll be more than that because uh I think one of the clubhouses will actually have an indoor pool. So one's gonna have an indoor, I think, and one's gonna have an outdoor. So these are gonna be substantial um community spaces because [2:15:21, 2:15:34]: because again it has to have um the the meaning, the fitness room, the business center, all that kind of stuff. And so we're actually duplicating in most communities you would only find one, but we're actually gonna have two sets of these. [2:15:35, 2:15:45]: Another question I'm fighting for missed this. Because of the the type of facility this is, what is the security uh aspect of it? [2:15:45, 2:15:55]: Um with regards to security, we've haven't had a h lot of discussion um surrounding that. Um it is not uh intended to be a gated community at this point. [2:15:55, 2:16:09]: So, um my understanding is that security will probably be kind of standard um security. Um probably have some cameras and things like that around throughout the community, but um there was no like [2:16:09, 2:16:14]: security guards or anything like that that have been planned. [2:16:17, 2:16:18]: Mm-hmm. [2:16:19, 2:16:39]: Mm-hmm. There are there are a lot of senior yeah, there are a lot of senior um communities that are around. Um, I guess for good or for bad, I I've visited a number of them. Not only well, for my sister, I haven't um decided that that's for me yet. Um, but I have been to a number of them and the mass majority of them don't have any [2:16:39, 2:16:40]: Not particular security. [2:16:42, 2:16:42]: Mm-hmm. [2:16:49, 2:17:03]: For some, uh I wanted to be clear, the mass majority of the people that will be living in this community, we believe, will just be independent seniors who are looking for um a community that is age restricted. [2:17:03, 2:17:23]: That we believe will be the mass majority of the people that will be living there. There will be the opportunity for people who are in that traumatic brain facility, however, to also live within that facility and have the care that they need by being so close to the traumatic brain um facility. So it will have kind of a dual [2:17:23, 2:17:36]: dual aspect, both what I would call independent and some assisted um living as well. Um but we believe that, you know, any senior that's fifty-five and older that would like to live in this community will have the opportunity to do so. [2:17:38, 2:17:58]: Any other questions? Yeah, let me one more. I'm sorry. That brought thank you to Mr. Blount. That question brought up something very interesting. Because uh I think Minding Creek uh town homes, they have a gate uh for their community, which is multifamily, which offers but the streets were still gonna be public streets because uh [2:17:58, 2:18:18]: We were gonna give them that designation, I think. Um so uh is that even an option for this to have some type of protection, especially maybe at nighttime to have a gate? So we've got three points of entry. Um the one point of entry is actually coming through where the traumatic brain facility is at. [2:18:18, 2:18:38]: They'll have kind of a shared easement, a shared drive into that space. And then you also have the um the the entrance that's dedicated where the um single family detach units are are located. And then you'll also have the one off the back where it goes through the [2:18:38, 2:18:58]: Um the Atlanta Tech Center area. And so there had not been any plans to have a gated community there with those three points of entrance. That does require some juggling of the site to a certain extent because you have to have the depth of the driveway and the turnaround. [2:18:58, 2:19:06]: um and and those types of things that would go with it. I don't know that we're necessarily opposed to it, um, but it was not contemplated. [2:19:06, 2:19:17]: Well Miss Carter step back up real quick. In terms of that, we had there was some discussion anything involving multifamily would have a gate. So what where what what what does the code say? [2:19:17, 2:19:24]: Uh the code does not require multifamily to have a gated entrance. It doesn't require any subdivision to have it. Um [2:19:25, 2:19:45]: It it does depend on, you know, we go through the final plat process, which we will go through for this and other projects like it. Um, it's determined by the applicant if whether they like for it to be private, which means it will be gated, uh, versus it being not not gated and it being um on the maintenance for our public works. [2:19:45, 2:19:51]: Is it a tr is it a combination where it could be gated and then the streets still be public? Is that allowed or no? [2:19:51, 2:19:53]: Um we haven't [2:19:54, 2:19:59]: broach uh breach that that aspect, um, but typically when it is gated [2:20:00, 2:20:12]: the HOA takes on the cost of maintenance for that for those streets. Because this is a really busy highway and it might be a good idea. [2:20:24, 2:20:25]: Yes. [2:20:25, 2:20:27]: I didn't hear the question, sorry. [2:20:29, 2:20:49]: Okay, certainly we were entertained that about uh potentially having gates because this is a very busy highway, which is gonna be a four lane uh major artery when it's widened uh in the coming years. So certainly uh I I think that the the uh [2:20:49, 2:21:09]: I if it is something that we can have discussion about um as we're going through the park, I don't think we're opposed to it. I think the challenge is which one of the entrances would have the primary gate. Um because one of the things we don't want to have is um cars out into um the right-of-way. You have to have a depth on the [2:21:09, 2:21:29]: The entrance in order to have a gate. And so right now it's not set up for the gate, which means that we would have to adjust some of the entrance points because I believe you have to have a stacking capacity and then you have to have a width wide enough in order to allow not only for you to come through the gate, but if you can't get in, that you have to be able [2:21:29, 2:21:36]: to make that turnaround to come back out. So we would have to make some adjustments with the site plan in order to be able to accommodate a gate. [2:21:37, 2:21:57]: I I I think honestly that's the way to go. And I think technology parkway would be the roadway that you would have to use uh for the m primary entrance. Hopefully there'll be a traffic light at that one day. But the concern would be and I've seen this uh in some subdivisions in the area off of Brandon Road and [2:21:56, 2:22:16]: Campground Road where people were using Highway 155 coming into the subdivisions during the night and um victimizing those areas. So having the gate there might have assist in that. So I certainly would like I can't only speak for myself, but I certainly would like to see that. [2:22:18, 2:22:20]: You know the question from the council. [2:22:21, 2:22:32]: All right. If not, I'm gonna open up the for the public hearing. And so um any comments on my far left for this project? Any comments on my far left for? [2:22:33, 2:22:40]: Seeing none in the middle, my far right. Any comments against the project as stated? My far left. [2:22:41, 2:22:42]: In the middle. [2:22:42, 2:22:43]: A far right. [2:22:44, 2:22:48]: Well actually on that case, no comments for or against, so a public hearing is closed. [2:22:48, 2:22:50]: Council, I need a motion to accept this proposal, please. [2:22:51, 2:23:07]: Mayor, I'd like to make a motion to approve this, but I would like to add the condition that we just discussed, which is requiring the gate um for this uh development uh being that it's multifamily with uh so many people being in that area. [2:23:10, 2:23:24]: All right. Mr I'm sorry, Councilman Alexander, um, are you accepting the conditions with the amendments as stated earlier in addition to your co yes your condition? Yes, and and staff recommendations and amendments. [2:23:28, 2:23:30]: Is there a second to this motion? [2:23:31, 2:23:40]: Mayor. Yes, ma'am. I have a question. Yes. Um there were three entry points. Um Councilman Alexander, is that gated on all three? [2:23:40, 2:24:00]: mean if the gate is required for all three, you're gonna gate the community. And then um of course the main entrance would be she the question was the main entrance would be off of technology parkway because in the future there's a long run there where there's other businesses located and hopefully there will be a future traffic light there. [2:24:00, 2:24:15]: And I ask and I call on the council to support this because this is about safety. That is going to be another I seventy five running right through that area with four lanes and then paths and sidewalks on both sides. Stand by. [2:24:17, 2:24:20]: Oh Dr. Sowell said he could talk to them. [2:24:20, 2:24:40]: If I may, if I may, um because there is a traffic study that still is to be done, it would be determined by the Henry County DOT, the state DOT for Highway 42, and the fire marshal on emergency access and what the main entrances would be. So that information is still yet to be determined. [2:24:40, 2:24:55]: Um, but as far as the gating piece, um if the property is gated, it does require that they be private streets and that those have to be maintained by the developer and likely the homeowners association. [2:24:56, 2:24:57]: Yeah, it kind of like increases. [2:24:58, 2:24:58]: No. [2:25:00, 2:25:01]: Meh. [2:25:02, 2:25:06]: Go ahead please. Thank you. You're welcome. Go ahead, please. [2:25:06, 2:25:13]: Uh one of the things uh I wanna say that we have to be careful when we start talking about and I I agree with uh having security to the [2:25:14, 2:25:24]: to the mo utmost that we can put in there, but we have to l also look at communities like my community. The highest traffic volumes in my community is those people are cutting through the community. [2:25:24, 2:25:44]: So if we gate if we gate my community, then if we set a standard that we're going to allow communities to gate themselves and and we approve and still do the streets, then that opens it that sets the precedence for other communities such [2:25:44, 2:25:50]: Because we're not gonna let a development come in and we gate that community. [2:25:50, 2:25:53]: And we still maintain the streets when we do have a [2:25:54, 2:25:57]: We have a safety situation in my community. [2:25:58, 2:26:02]: And if we gate it, then we would have to take over those the the cost of those streets. [2:26:02, 2:26:22]: And I agree that when you gate a community, the the the cost is substantially raised. And you cannot just get it off of um the what is the standard now for buying at home. The HO the the the the HOA is definitely [2:26:22, 2:26:33]: gonna be uh put that home in a price range much higher than what that mortgage would normally be. And so we have to be careful and cautious if we set that precedence [2:26:34, 2:26:45]: now tonight that that president's gonna have to be abided by other communities that are existing that has safety issues like we have in Winsome. [2:26:46, 2:27:06]: A good example of that would be the Eagles Land Country Club, which is a gated community, which means obviously they have to ba maintain those roads. Those are not roads in which the City of Stockbridges maintains. And that's what would happen with that in this aspect when you do that. I think the the other component to remember for our seniors in this particular community is that um there are [2:27:05, 2:27:25]: Going to be paying a substantial amount because they have to maintain all of the common areas along with so the pool and all that other stuff, they're maintaining that along with the exteriors of the townhome units and the of the buildings. And so when you then put on top of that that maintenance component with regards to [2:27:25, 2:27:45]: the streets if there's potholes if there's other issues and the gate and the mechanisms for the gate maintaining all the gate is just a lot of cost that we had really not contemplated. Um so we would prefer not to put that as a condition at this point but to give us an opportunity to work with staff and with the commissioner i mean with the council members to figure out um [2:27:45, 2:28:05]: the best way to address the safety issues and concerns because we don't want to outprice um people being able to live there with the um the assessment. You know, it's one thing to pay your mortgage, but it's a whole nother thing if you gotta pay, you know, an extra hundred dollars uh a month or fifty dollars a month in order to have all these additional um amenities that are [2:28:05, 2:28:25]: are going to have to be covered because a lot of these folks are going to be on fixed incomes. So as maintenance increases, then their assessment is going to increase. But that doesn't mean their income is increasing because they are seniors and a lot of them are going to be on fixed income. So I would just ask that to be taken as a part of the consideration. But um Councilmember Alexander, we certainly understand [2:28:25, 2:28:31]: What your concern is, and we're more than willing to have continued dialogue and to see if we can work towards something that might be amical. [2:28:32, 2:28:33]: Mr. Anzan, go away, please. [2:28:34, 2:28:47]: Yeah, I just saw again, right around the corner, at the Winding Creek townhomes, they have a gate. Uh they only have one entrance hour and they only have forty seven units. So the staff recommendation was to do what again, Ms. Carter? [2:28:49, 2:29:09]: The SAF recommendation as far as uh there wasn't one as far as the streets, um, but it's for the conditions. You said to get back to them once through the process once the traffic study and everything is done. Yes. To continue to have this as a discussion point until we get that. [2:29:09, 2:29:10]: That information in. [2:29:11, 2:29:17]: Um we we can. Um we just have to determine the mechanism to bring it back. Um [2:29:19, 2:29:39]: to you all formally because um until the traffic study's done and that usually can take a couple of months, um maybe six to eight weeks, then bringing it back to you all would require us to come back formally. Well um in terms of that, I mean, isn't that some determination you could make administrative [2:29:39, 2:29:42]: Absolutely. [2:29:42, 2:29:43]: Yes. [2:29:44, 2:29:59]: Okay, so um well I remove my contention they're gonna continue to work on that particular issue in terms of determination of whether the gate's gonna be and accept the staff's recommendations uh uh with the conditions included. [2:29:59, 2:30:10]: And that's your motion now. You readjust your motion? Yes. Okay, is there a second to that motion? Miss Barber seconds to that motion. Any further discussion? And if not, on fair please indicate. [2:30:11, 2:30:13]: I wonder because a lot of [2:30:16, 2:30:33]: I have the motion recorded by Councilman Alexander to approve with the nineteen conditions as proposed by staff and any amendments that were made tonight, but as far as the gate is concerned. [2:30:35, 2:30:41]: There is a traffic study that's going to be completed by uh with DOT to determine [2:30:41, 2:30:48]: Whether or not a gate would be needed because that would cause the development to have private streets. [2:30:49, 2:30:50]: Mm-mm. [2:30:50, 2:30:59]: Okay, let's double check. So with with with that being said, so are we at a point in this motion where whenever this study is completed [2:31:00, 2:31:18]: Are we talking about a change in the price point of the the b uh uh or of w I'm just trying to figure out if we approve it, then what do whether they do the study and complete the study, what does that have to do with the approving of the project tonight? I I don't I don't understand that. If we're not requiring them to put a gate up, why are we [2:31:18, 2:31:18]: Well. [2:31:19, 2:31:39]: But I think I think what the the request was that after the traffic study is completed, that it's determined from there and the clients work together to determine whether they can, you know, look at the price points and how that'll affect the costs to the homeowners to determine whether they can put in those those private streets. [2:31:39, 2:31:42]: Y y and that's fine. I I get it. [2:31:43, 2:31:49]: But if the traffic study is done and they're determined not to do it, then what? They're just determined not to do it. So what's the point? [2:31:51, 2:31:59]: Well, I guess. If you approve it tonight and they decide not to do it, then what's the point of the stipulation? What's the point of that contingency? [2:32:01, 2:32:21]: All right. Understood. Um, but that's that's a dis decision if you all wish to add it or not. Um it it it has no it has it has no weight to it. Mayor. It it does have weight in terms of the fact that the the the information and the the information is gonna make the decision versus um us. [2:32:21, 2:32:25]: Okay. All right. Ms. Gandhi have a question? [2:32:25, 2:32:43]: I have to agree with Councilman Blount that it really doesn't hold any weight. Um, I mean you're an expert in this field. Does that hold any weight? The fact that the traffic study I thought the traffic study was for a traffic signal, whether or not there will be a need for a traffic signal, not [2:32:44, 2:32:46]: Miss um holiday. [2:32:46, 2:33:03]: Not the gate, but the traffic signal. Was that not the purpose of that study in the first place? This came in this came up later. That's that's what it was, Miss Battle. Thank you. Um, so this is not about a gate. This is about a traffic signal. [2:33:05, 2:33:25]: And that's what G Dodd and everyone determined and and that would make sense. So whatever we vote on tonight, if we don't vote on it tonight, we don't vote on the gate tonight, or put that in as part of the condition, then it doesn't even matter. We're just going based off our word. And then that's exactly what [2:33:25, 2:33:33]: Councilman Blount was trying to say. Now, I'm not really um necessarily saying let's get a gate. [2:33:34, 2:33:54]: I I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that, especially when we are talking about the roads becoming private at that point, that it automatically would be private. And we just heard that the cost would increase significantly. We know that the cost would increase significantly. Those of us who have lived in Eagles Land and will I [2:33:54, 2:34:05]: I have would know that. So I'm not going to say that that would be necessarily the case. I'd if I'm gonna vote on, I'm gonna vote on the conditions. [2:34:06, 2:34:07]: That were given. [2:34:08, 2:34:08]: Tonight. [2:34:10, 2:34:18]: Along with what we've just discussed. If we're gonna vote for the gate tonight, let's vote for it. If we're not, then that traffic study's not gonna do us any favors. [2:34:18, 2:34:38]: For that. I I can say this on behalf of the applicant, Dr. Sowie, um, if if you all would like for him to speak. But here's what his concern is. He's asking not to have the gate. I'm just gonna sp flat out say it. He would prefer not to have the gate because he's also concerned about the fact that we have both independent and some assisted living. He doesn't want to [2:34:38, 2:34:58]: slow down in terms of um safety um not safety um uh response um if there's any type of emergency within and they have to deal with getting through the gate that's time away from being able to get to the person behind the gate and so there's some concern there because it is a senior community um we don't [2:34:58, 2:35:18]: Want to slow down any type of emergency response time getting into the community, in addition to the fact that we know that it is going to increase the cost for the residents because they will have to maintain those private streets, and that's going to add significant additional money. [2:35:18, 2:35:33]: monies onto their um assessments. So we would prefer not. That's obviously you all's decision to make, but that is our position on it. So and that's based on what Dr. Sowie has just asked me. So I'm just making sure that that's clear from our perspective. [2:35:34, 2:35:40]: I prefer not to have the gates. All right, knowing all that, Ms. Alzheimer, you're the one who made the motion. I made the motion. [2:35:40, 2:36:00]: I didn't make the motion to approve the gate tonight. I made the motion to have the staff and working with the vendor to determine whether or not the gate would be necessary after all of the data is gathered, including the traffic study and including um uh re examining uh the depths of the [2:36:00, 2:36:10]: the interest is required and all of that. Uh all of that information will be taken into consideration. That's the motion that I was making, not uh that the gate would be approved tonight. [2:36:12, 2:36:25]: All right. Now and who second uh Bess Barber, you second that? Who second that most discussion page may hold on sir. Okay, so originally it was it was originally it was seconded. Who s originally seconded that? [2:36:26, 2:36:43]: Ms. Barber, okay. So it was originally second. All right. Now we had not had further discussion. You want to have further discussion? It's fine. But a motion has been made and we're seconded. Mr. Alexander just re reiterated that particular motion that he made. And I'm pretty sure that the uh uh that the clerk has that n that interpretation. So it's further discussion, go ahead, please. [2:36:44, 2:36:47]: Mayor. [2:36:47, 2:36:49]: If the traffic study comes back. [2:36:51, 2:36:55]: And it says traffic is off the chain. [2:36:56, 2:36:58]: And they still decide not to put a gate up. [2:36:59, 2:37:02]: The city, can we make them put a gate up? [2:37:08, 2:37:09]: I wouldn't say that we could. [2:37:10, 2:37:13]: There's no community that we can make put a gate up. [2:37:14, 2:37:14]: Right. [2:37:15, 2:37:16]: So what's the point? [2:37:17, 2:37:20]: That's what I'm trying to say. Why put that in in the motion? [2:37:21, 2:37:24]: The point is it may have to respond. [2:37:24, 2:37:29]: Yeah, I'll I'll stand by before you respond. Uh you're done with your comment. Miss Gann, you had a comment? [2:37:30, 2:37:50]: Well uh yes I did. Uh if we don't approve this then it dies. Period. The the subdivision dies. That's one way of handling it. But no one wants to do that. We do want this I wouldn't want to do that. However, um based [2:37:49, 2:37:55]: Based off of the motion that Councilman Alexander made, it's pretty much tabling [2:37:57, 2:38:01]: This agenda item until a traffic study's being done. That's what it sounds like. [2:38:02, 2:38:04]: Because we're either gonna vote on it tonight. [2:38:05, 2:38:09]: Or we'll wait on a traffic study to determine all those conditions to put in. [2:38:10, 2:38:30]: That's what that's where we are. That's pretty much what he did or is saying. No, it's not what I'm saying. If we if we vote on this, then we're waiting if we wait on the traffic study and the traffic study says, Okay, it's a lot of traffic. It's all about a traffic signal. We're waiting on the traffic study to determine what? A traffic signal. [2:38:30, 2:38:32]: Not about a gate. [2:38:32, 2:38:34]: Because whatever we vote on tonight. [2:38:35, 2:38:36]: That's it. [2:38:37, 2:38:38]: Understand that. [2:38:39, 2:38:56]: Well th I th Mr. Alexander, I don't think that's his intent, but go ahead, Ms. Alexander. That's not my intent, certainly not my intent. But in in the end, I know one thing, this city's trying to set a standard. If we want gates and multifamily developments, we need to start now. But in the end, this developer, they gonna be all today. [2:38:56, 2:39:00]: But you know what? They have a decision to make and then they come they're gonna come back. [2:39:01, 2:39:02]: For something else. [2:39:02, 2:39:08]: And we understand what they do and what what how they proceed from this point forward or determine when they come back. [2:39:10, 2:39:16]: So the decision will be up to them on what to do, but we understand that there will be other developments. [2:39:16, 2:39:18]: Mayor Ford. Yes sir. [2:39:18, 2:39:25]: The the issue that I'm concerned about, as was stated, is the escalating cost. [2:39:26, 2:39:29]: For these seniors en and for that reason. [2:39:30, 2:39:32]: I'm hesitant to add [2:39:32, 2:39:35]: Anything that's going to escalate [2:39:35, 2:39:36]: The cost. [2:39:37, 2:39:42]: Uh and and if if that is true, as was stated and if that is a fact. [2:39:43, 2:39:52]: I I like to hear that reiteration, but if that's the case and that's a fact, I I would not be in favor of escalating uh the cost for those seniors. [2:39:53, 2:40:12]: S seeing as that is the case, we don't have support for it. Let us just move forward with it, the recommendations by the staff. We don't have the votes. Let's not waste any more time. We don't have the votes. Let's just go ahead with what staff recommended and I change my motion to go ahead with the amendments and the recommendation uh by the staff. [2:40:13, 2:40:33]: Councilman Alexander, if I may, Mayor Ford. Um, because the security is is one of is the primary concern, the applicant has staged us now that they're willing to put in security cameras um and some s as a condition um of the rezoning in order to to create some security measures um in place on the site. [2:40:33, 2:40:35]: Certainly they'll be acceptable. [2:40:36, 2:40:42]: Okay, so uh you wanna restate your motion once you're gonna be able to do that. [2:40:42, 2:40:48]: the uh staff as well as the security of cameras agreed to by the developer. We [2:40:49, 2:40:58]: Okay. Is there uh uh Miss Holly, you have that, is that correct? All right, no problem. Is there a second to that motion? I second. Um Miss Gantt seconds the motion this time. All in favor, please indicate. [2:40:59, 2:41:02]: Fantastic. Let's move on. Thanks. Congratulations. Okay. [2:41:03, 2:41:13]: Um items number 14, 15, 16, and 17. We amended the agenda to have that uh come to before us on the on the thirteenth of February. [2:41:13, 2:41:20]: And oddly enough that's probably a great thing, uh, because uh we will be here several more hours, right, if we had that. [2:41:20, 2:41:22]: So we're going to new business. [2:41:22, 2:41:41]: New businesses council consideration to approved Yellowstone landscape to perform the Campground Road and Hudson Bridge Road Medium Enhancement Project an amount of seventy thousand one hundred and fifty-eight dollars and ninety-six cents. Funding source from fund balance van uh excuse me, funding source from fund balance presented by Mr. Aaron, please. [2:41:51, 2:42:00]: Yes, Mr. Mayor. Uh this was an item that Councilman Alexander asked us in reference to this project a beautification project for [2:42:00, 2:42:04]: Uh Hudson Bridge Road and Campground Road. [2:42:04, 2:42:17]: And uh Yellowstone, our current landscape inventor, provided a a quote to perform the beautification projects on Hudson Bridge Road and Campground Road. So we just presenting this for information to Mayor and Council. [2:42:18, 2:42:38]: Uh sir. Good, got a good question for him? Go ahead. Yeah, this let's let's be very clear. The council voted and approved the Hudson Bridge Road development, uh beautification, and the campground road. There was a council vote. Now I asked why the these two projects had not been completed. [2:42:38, 2:42:58]: Completed. There was a RFP that was put out based on what the the vote by the council. There were no bids that were actually approved. Is that correct? There were no bids that were submitted. Yes, sir. At that point, uh, I think the former city manager and yourself, we were [2:42:58, 2:43:11]: gonna reach out to Yellowstone and get them to actually complete the project. And what actually happened was uh the previous city manager did not move forward with the project that was voted on and approved by the council. Is that correct? [2:43:12, 2:43:13]: Well uh [2:43:14, 2:43:33]: I don't know what what happened with that. I I just presented the information to him. I knew it exceeded his signing authority. But in essence, what really I mean, there was Yellowstone was supposed to do it, these two projects, but it never happened. Is that correct? Yes. That's what the council voted on and approved. Is that correct? [2:43:34, 2:43:40]: I'd have to look back at the minutes. I don't know if it was officially approved these two projects. Yes. [2:43:41, 2:43:42]: Mayor. [2:43:42, 2:43:43]: Yes, ma'am. [2:43:43, 2:43:57]: It says here that the funding sources from fund balance. Um, does that mean that it's not budgeted for? These two projects are not budgeted for No it wasn't budgeted. How could they not be budgeted? So if they weren't budgeted for, then [2:43:58, 2:44:13]: What did we ness uh madam Clerk, do you recall what we approved? Because if it's not budgeted, I'm not gonna approve something and I I don't have a budget for I can't where's the money coming from? This is coming from fund balance. And I wouldn't have approved that. [2:44:15, 2:44:35]: Councilwoman Gantt, I do not recall that, but as Mr. Aaron has indicated, it was put out for bid, which if the did we I don't know if if the amount was known at that time, which is why it was not processed via the city manager and was put out for via we would have to actually [2:44:35, 2:44:38]: Pull those records. I'm sorry, I'm not recalling that at this time. [2:44:38, 2:44:53]: Okay, thank you. So that means that we don't have it in the budget. It would have to come from fund balance, correct? We didn't budget for this project. No ma'am, we didn't. All right, do we have any supply stores or anything that we could use to fund this project? Moldel, Motel. [2:44:53, 2:45:01]: No, no. Yeah. We cannot. Calm down. So what so what uh so are you finished with your comments, ma'am? [2:45:01, 2:45:10]: I would have to speak with Mr. Wiggins on that as far as the funding source is concerned. Well he said fund balance, so is that the [2:45:11, 2:45:20]: As of right now, we s I said fund balance because it was not specifically identified in the FY twenty twenty three budget. This project wasn't. [2:45:21, 2:45:41]: Okay, thank you. Sir. Uh once one stand by a second please. Mr. Wiggins, you you have uh an answer to that in reference where this money can be the only answer I have is um the funding source like it like we said it's it will have to be fund best because we did not budget this at all. It would take some time to go through [2:45:41, 2:45:45]: and look through back through the budget and see where we can get this money from. [2:45:46, 2:45:50]: Right now going forward, you know, we just started the new year with the new budget. [2:45:51, 2:45:52]: This just wasn't budget. [2:45:52, 2:46:12]: Yeah. All right. Now I think this is like like Desha said, um the seventy thousand comes from Yellowstone because you we did not receive any beds in for when this project went out. So the you didn't we didn't have no price, we didn't know any kind of estimate of what it was. So [2:46:12, 2:46:19]: When this came back, this came back after the budget was done. So [2:46:19, 2:46:21]: Oh okay. [2:46:22, 2:46:32]: I think Ms. Alexanderway, please. Let gentlemen, come on now. The project was approved two years ago. Of course it wasn't in the 2023 budget. It was in the previous budgets. [2:46:33, 2:46:36]: It was in beautification along the interstate. [2:46:36, 2:46:42]: I think we have fifty thousand dollars that we the council approved for that maybe two to three years ago. [2:46:42, 2:47:02]: It was there. And certainly, Mr. Wiggins, you know as well as I know that uh hotel motel tax can be used for tourism and improvements along there. It does not have to come out of fund balance. Is that correct? No, I I would have to check that. [2:47:02, 2:47:22]: That's one of the categories. I I need you to go and do the research. I I can I can do the research. Please do the research. But you have to be careful about using tourism money for one of those funds is unrestricted. I need you to know that. And I need you to go do the research and come back to us. All right, so you'll get a chance to do that, so otherwise it seems as though there were [2:47:22, 2:47:24]: We'll probably have to table this item and for another time frame. [2:47:25, 2:47:26]: Yes. Yes. [2:47:27, 2:47:35]: Mayor, I move that we table this item. I made a motion to table this item until we get more information on funding. [2:47:35, 2:47:36]: Is there a second to that? [2:47:36, 2:47:38]: Miss Barber Seconds that all in favor, please indicate. [2:47:40, 2:47:44]: I oppose. Um I'm I'm okay. We'll cut bring it back to you. Which one are you with, sir? [2:47:44, 2:48:04]: I'm I'm for it. I'm just astounded that we don't even know the rules. Okay, you're f you're for the yes of of the m uh tabling it, is that right? Yes. Okay, so it's four four four zero. All right, it passes. Thank you. Four we're gonna table this item. And obviously when you r I would imagine we'll bring it back in the next uh opportune time for a uh meeting. That's [2:48:04, 2:48:24]: All right, all right, thank you very much. Council consideration approval of annual contract RFP two zero two zero-002 six with site engineering incorporated for on-call water and sewer emergency and operational repair, maintenance construction services, an amount of three hundred thousand dollars as approved in the FY 2023 stormwater budget. [2:48:24, 2:48:44]: The funding source is from the stormwater budget account number 510-4250-542515 stormwater repair. Mr. Aaron, please. Yes, Mr. Mayor, I'd like to uh put a record that the contract was not included in the uh package that Mayor and Council received. [2:48:44, 2:49:04]: But this project was this uh contract was bidded out in twenty twenty one. So we're coming up on the f I think it's the second renewal of this. And this is gonna be a key for us as we transition into the newly annexed areas because we've already identified some areas that we're gonna need some work in and also we got some projects that [2:49:04, 2:49:24]: That we just was made aware today in this on Summit View Drive that we're gonna be working to repair a stormwater project. So this agreement has been very beneficial to the city as we go about making improvements in our in our stormwater infrastructure. So we just ask the mayor and council to approve what was approved in the F. [2:49:24, 2:49:26]: Y twenty twenty three budget. [2:49:27, 2:49:47]: All right, thank you. Is there yes ma'am? Go ahead, please. Mayor, I'd like to make a motion to approve this. It was already budgeted for. Um for council to approve the annual contract RP 2020-0026 with Site Engineering Inc. for on call water and sewage emergency operational repair maintenance. [2:49:47, 2:49:57]: and construction services in the amount of three hundred thousand dollars as approved in our FY twenty twenty three stormwater budget. Is there a second to the motion? [2:50:00, 2:50:01]: Is there a second to the motion? [2:50:05, 2:50:05]: No one [2:50:06, 2:50:08]: Second. [2:50:08, 2:50:13]: Okay, Mr. Alzheimer's second the motion. Any further discussion? If not, all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [2:50:14, 2:50:16]: Okay, I'll pose. [2:50:16, 2:50:20]: Abstain? I abstain. Okay. Three zero one. [2:50:20, 2:50:21]: Motion passed. [2:50:22, 2:50:25]: Council council consideration to um [2:50:25, 2:50:41]: Approved the award or request for proposal number two zero two two-one seven Wastewater Treatment Plant Pole Barn to Diversified Construction of Georgia Incorporated in amount of one million two hundred and seventy-one thousand six hundred and fifty dollars. [2:50:42, 2:51:02]: Funding sources from the Water and Sewer Department Fund Balance Account 505-4330-5541-462. Uh WWTP facility improvements. Mr. Aaron, please. Yes, Mr. Mayor. I'd like to once again state for the record that the contract was not included in your package, but I'll let Mr. [2:51:02, 2:51:05]: Bryant Holsinger, our sewer sewer superintendent speak to this project. [2:51:06, 2:51:06]: All right. [2:51:07, 2:51:27]: Thank you, Mayor and Council, for hearing me. Uh this is a pole barn that's gonna be constructed on at the wastewater treatment plant. Uh it's a hundred and fifty foot long, fifty foot deep. And this price also includes enclosing the existing pole barn that we have so we can put heat in it so we can protect our pump truck uh [2:51:27, 2:51:47]: our pump trucks or the new VAC trucks we got and the a hundred and fifty foot pole barn, it's to protect all this expensive equipment we've been buying over the last five or six years and we still have more to come. I just want you to know that it's not really use that wears equipment out. [2:51:47, 2:51:48]: is weather. [2:51:50, 2:51:54]: Okay. All right, thank you. Councillor, any questions for uh [2:51:54, 2:52:11]: initiate question. Um so how have we been uh protecting this equipment uh in the past? It's been sitting out in the weather. A lot of it has. Now we we do have some, you know, that's covered, but it's we just have too much equipment and we need to protect it. [2:52:12, 2:52:13]: Thank you. [2:52:13, 2:52:15]: No questions from the council? [2:52:18, 2:52:38]: You got a question, sir, or are we gonna make a motion? I'm just uh no, I just see when we build in facilities like public work facility and other facilities, these types of costs need to be and looked at. And before we go down that line of building the facility, these types of things need to be looked at to consider. [2:52:38, 2:52:58]: Whether or not we're building for future growth and that we can adequately bring in these shelters or whatever else in in in on the property as well when we go down this road. So before we haven't had any provisions to just [2:52:58, 2:53:00]: We just left it out in the weather, that's what we did. [2:53:01, 2:53:21]: No, sir. Well, one of the things that came up as we started to acquire more expensive equipment, we do we noticed that we needed to have an enclosed a shelter over these items. We've had tarps and things of that nature over there. And so we're trying to have permanent heated components like the streets. [2:53:21, 2:53:41]: Sweeper. It's stored out in the elements. It got water in it. So you have pipes and things on that truck that can freeze and break and crack and things like that. So we're building facilities to put these$250,000,$300,000 pieces of equipment so that they're maintained in a warm environment during the wintertime and also they're out of [2:53:41, 2:53:58]: of the elements. And so like Mr. Holsinger said, a lot of times this equipment being out in the elements shortened the life expectancy of this equipment. So as we've acquired, like I said, we've got a second street sweeper now. We've got a back contract. So we want those under and enclosed [2:53:58, 2:54:05]: And shelter where it's out of the elements. It's not being rained on and those things like that. So so [2:54:06, 2:54:26]: How many pieces of equipment is this going to accommodate and then is there room to expand it before we build it? That there's it that was a goal in mind that if we have additional equipment that's purchased in the coming years that we'd have room for. But one of the things like I said, we've got [2:54:26, 2:54:46]: Expensive equipment that we don't want to have exposed to the environment. And also, we don't want if somebody decides they want to break into the facility again like they did previously and load up some of this equipment that's sitting out there. We want to prevent that from happening as well. So the the main thing is trying to extend the life of this. [2:54:45, 2:54:59]: the equipment that we spent uh$450,000 for a VAC truck. We spent$275,000 last year for a street sweeper. So we're trying to prolong the life of those by keeping them out of the environment. [2:55:00, 2:55:20]: So uh again, uh uh this once this is completed, how many pieces of equipment does this accommodate? Well, we've got a a back truck, we got a pump truck, we got uh mowers, we've got tractors, we got street sweepers. Well again, so so we're building the facility, what is the capacity of it? [2:55:20, 2:55:40]: It will be able to handle all of the things and also we'll be able to store other things like parts for the wastewater plant, parts for his lift stations, parts for the water system. So like now we got a bunch of water supplies that are out in the elements covered with tarp down at the maintenance shop. So you got [2:55:40, 2:55:44]: gaskets and things like that inside of those pipes that [2:55:44, 2:56:04]: When they're exposed to the elements, then those start cracking. So when you start using those materials, then they're defective because they've been out an environment and they've been compromised. So we're trying to have facilities where we can put a lot of material that's stored outside and the elements in a safe environment. And my final question. So we bought another street sweeper. Is this good? [2:56:04, 2:56:13]: gonna help us cover that too? Yes. We've got two street suites. So we bought another one. I'm saying in terms of growth in the future, is this going to cover it? Yes, sir. Okay. [2:56:14, 2:56:15]: Ms. Gann, go ahead, please. [2:56:15, 2:56:35]: Thank you. Just for clarification purposes, uh you heard my comment in regards to fund balance earlier. This is water and sewer department fund balance. Yes, ma'am. Is it often that you uh and how do I put this? Do you have a do you normally budget for projects in that in [2:56:35, 2:56:53]: that department or do you always just have a lump sum and you uh go as needed? The m majority of the projects or splice projects and the city's water and sewer has a healthy fund balance that we've been using to uh perform projects that are [2:56:54, 2:57:14]: really been needed. We also using ARPA funds that the CD water and sewer uh and storm water received about five point five million dollars of ARPA funds. So we're doing project as a combination. We did a Smith Barnes, that was C D BG and ARPA. We're doing um I think Burke Street Project that was an ARPA project. So we're using [2:57:14, 2:57:27]: a combination of all the funding that's available to us. And like I said, we have a healthy water and sewer fund balance and this is something that is definitely needed. So we identified that as a project that we need to move forward with. [2:57:27, 2:57:28]: Okay. Do you normally budget? [2:57:29, 2:57:43]: In that department or is it just uh Yes ma'am, we do, but capital projects are in the capital projects budget which the city manager had in in his FY twenty twenty three budget, we submitted the capital projects to him for inclusion in the capital projects budget. [2:57:43, 2:57:49]: Okay. And this was a part of it? Yes, ma'am. All right, thank you. All right, just making sure that it was part of it. Yes, ma'am. [2:57:49, 2:57:54]: Um having said that, uh Mayor, I'd like to make a motion to approve. [2:57:54, 2:58:14]: Um the award, the RFP request number 2022-0017 wastewater treatment plant, pole barn to to diversify constructions of Georgia, and the amount of 1.271650. Funding source is from water and sewer department fund balance. [2:58:14, 2:58:33]: All right. Zero second the motion. Ms. Barber seconds that motion. Any further discussion? If not, all in favor, please indicate. Fantastic. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you, gentlemen. All right. What is next is uh says council consideration appoint members to the youth council advisory committee presented by Mr. Washington. And uh [2:58:34, 2:58:44]: Now as you come forward, when I look at when I actually mister Washington, when I looked at this, both these individuals have here Citizens Police Academy Advisory Council on it. [2:58:46, 2:59:06]: I don't know, Miss Holly, you can answer that. I'm just kind of confused. Citizens Police Advisory Council for both these individuals it has on their application. I can respond to that. And below that they ask if there are any other boards that they like to be considered for. And when we reached out to these individuals, they said that they wanted to be considered for the [2:59:05, 2:59:08]: youth would commit. [2:59:10, 2:59:15]: It okay, so if so we we can't appoint to uh [2:59:15, 2:59:21]: Okay, I must I lost how the process goes. A point for the citizens uh police academy, we can't do that. That's uh [2:59:22, 2:59:30]: I don't believe that we have the number yet. We that board calls for twelve individuals. We are not at twelve. [2:59:30, 2:59:32]: So was this a priority one? [2:59:33, 2:59:53]: We asked the individuals, we let them know that they were not ready to appoint the citizens' advisory committee as yet. They have on their applications that they would like to be considered, and they I believe one of them had more than one. And when asked, this was the board they wanted to be considered for. Also, Mayor, our [2:59:53, 2:59:55]: Oh does not. [2:59:57, 3:00:01]: This allows individuals from being members to more than one board. [3:00:02, 3:00:10]: Okay. Yes, sir. Uh considering those facts, um I moved that we [3:00:11, 3:00:21]: table this agenda item until it becomes clear as far as the um the uh advisory board. [3:00:21, 3:00:30]: Okay. That's f fine with me. Is there a second to that uh motion to the table? Miss Barber seconds that any further discussion? And if not, all in favor of that motion please indicate. [3:00:32, 3:00:33]: Okay, I'll pause. [3:00:34, 3:00:41]: Mr. Alexander, I'm sorry I hear see your hand. One four. You forward, okay. Four z four zero, four four four. So we'll we'll table this and br and get bring this back. [3:00:42, 3:00:55]: On that note, thank you, Mr. Washington. Okay, on that note, then I got uh here announcements of upcoming uh meetings and events. And um let's see here what we have going on. [3:00:58, 3:01:09]: Okay. Citywide Development Authority meeting at six PM in City Hall, Levi meeting room, uh second Tuesday of each month, uh which will be January tenth. That's actually tomorrow. [3:01:09, 3:01:29]: Uh Main Street Advisory Board meeting second Friday of each month at 9 a.m. City Hall Levi Room January 13th. Downtown Development Authority meeting at 6 p.m. by way of Zoom, third Tuesday of each month by way of Zoom on January 20th. Youth Council Advisory Committee meeting at 6 30 third third Tuesday of each month. [3:01:29, 3:01:49]: And Levi Meeting Room City Hall January 20th as well. The Planning Commission meeting fourth Thursday of each month at 6:30 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers, January 26th. The City Council Work Session meeting last Tuesday of each month at 6 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers is January 31st. Main Street Advisory Board meeting [3:01:49, 3:02:09]: Second Friday of each month at 9 a.m. City Hall Levi Meeting Room February 10th. City Council meeting, second Monday of each month. City Hall Council Chambers, February 13th. Youth Council meeting room, excuse me, youth council meeting, 6:30 p.m., second Monday of each month. City Hall Levi Meeting Room on February 13th. [3:02:09, 3:02:29]: As well. Upcoming events is a continued salute, of course, to veterans. Please forward pictures of veterans, including name, rank name, branch, rank. Years of service to Mayor Pro Tem. Well, I guess it's Councilman Thomas back to Councilman Thomas again, but anyway, presents a special tribute to unlock veterans. Pictures should be submitted to Rosland Rawls and R. Rawls at C [3:02:29, 3:02:49]: Of Stockbridge dash G A dot G O V. And thank you for your service. Please join. And that's going to be Mayor Pro Tem, Barber, for Free Zuma every Saturday morning at Vivid Affairs Event Center, located 747 Davis Row, Suite 400, Stockbridge, 8 a.m. Come out for free fitness. Join councilman [3:02:49, 3:03:09]: Alexander Saturday, January 14th from 10 a.m. to noon for the annual MLK Junior Community Service Project to keep Stockbridge beautiful at I-75 and Hudson Bridge Road. Parking Hudson Bridge, Walmart, 1400 Hudson Bridge Road, and contact Rosland Ross for more information to 678-833-3348. [3:03:09, 3:03:25]: Or uh email her at ross at city of stopbridge dash G A dot Gov. Join Councilman Blount for Bingo Bash at Merrill Manor's Conference Center, one eleven Davis Road, Wednesday, January eighteenth, from ten AM to noon. Uh loads of fun to be had by all. [3:03:26, 3:03:27]: And there's an opportunity to meet the mayor. [3:03:28, 3:03:32]: and talk with Mayor Ford on Tuesday, January twenty fourth, ten A. M. to noon. [3:03:32, 3:03:52]: Please contact Rawls and Rawls to schedule an appointment at 678-833-3348 or email her at R Rawls at City of Stockbridge-G A.gov. And please save the dates in a sense here to join Councilman Thomas for African American Heritage Celebration, Saturday, February 25th. [3:03:52, 3:04:12]: details to follow. And for my additional comments, we're believe it or not, we're still in a pandemic. Believe it or not, ladies and gentlemen, but you know, you just now get vaccinated, get boosted, take your flu shots and be safe and keep your health and keep yourself healthy. And want to also say happy new year to everyone, happy new year to all the new citizens that we have that have now joined [3:04:12, 3:04:32]: City of Stockbridge effectively 1 January. And congratulations uh uh to the council for having your own Pacific districts. So we got five districts now, so this is gonna be pretty interesting how we go forward in this calendar year as we continue to move the city forward, period. And also the new citizens and council, you have a picture of this. You have this booklet here. Welcome to the city of Stockbridge, new residents. [3:04:32, 3:04:52]: guide was sent out to all the new citizens so to have this information for them in this aspect as well and looking forward to engaging with those citizens in their new uh new parts of of Stockbridge that is effectively is one January. So look forward to that. And uh besides that it's going on right now the Bulldogs are playing for the national championship. I have no idea what [3:04:52, 3:04:54]: Seventeen to seven. [3:04:54, 3:05:14]: Okay. Dogs. Okay, that's what it what quarter is that in? First just then of the first quarter. Okay, all right. There you have it, ladies and gentlemen. So we're gonna end this meeting so we can go check out the game. All right. God bless y'all and and uh once again happy new year to you. Uh council, I I will say we have no executive session item for tonight, and if that's the case I need [3:05:14, 3:05:15]: [11116.3, 11122.5]: Motion okay okay. I've m Ms. Gantt now I'm gonna second to uh to Councilman Thomas here. All in favor, please indicate. [3:05:23, 3:05:26]: Outstanding. Congratulations. Go watch the game. Meetings adjourned. [3:05:27, 3:05:29]: No dogs. [3:05:42, 3:05:48]: So we could use it on a bunch of different things. We could use it on the Wi-Fi next time if we wanted to. [3:05:48, 3:05:49]: It's uh on the unrestricted.