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--- title: Work Session Meeting date: 2022-12-20 source: 2022-12-20_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:05:16, 0:05:16]: Well. [0:05:17, 0:05:20]: We're going to get started with five oh two, so we got a quorum. [0:05:23, 0:05:35]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, I have once again it's 502 and I'm gonna open up our urban uh redevelopment agency meeting. Uh this is Tuesday, December 20th, 2022. [0:05:36, 0:05:42]: And um called the meeting to order. Invocation. Uh please stand if you c please. Can. [0:05:43, 0:06:03]: No, I'll give the invocation. Lord, thank you to bring us together once again to conduct the city's business and allow us to make good logical decisions for our citizens as we continue to move the city forward. Be us always, Lord, and allow us, allow you you to guide us in the right path as we do our business. Be this always, Lord, in your name. Amen. Pledge of allegiance. Pledge of allegiance. [0:06:03, 0:06:12]: To the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:06:12, 0:06:15]: All right. Madam Clerk Roll Call, please. [0:06:19, 0:06:24]: Chair Ford. Present. Vice Chair Thomas. Present. Board Member Alexander. [0:06:26, 0:06:30]: With the record reflect, board member Alexander is not in attendance. [0:06:30, 0:06:35]: Board member Barber, present. Board member Blount? Present. [0:06:35, 0:06:36]: Board member Gantt. [0:06:38, 0:06:49]: Let the record reflect board member Gantt is not in attendance. Chair Ford, you have a quorum. Thank you, Madam Clerk, appreciate it. Um Agency Board members, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:06:50, 0:07:06]: Mayor Ford. Yes sir. So moved. Okay, is there a second? Ms. Barber sec Ms. Barber second that all in favor, please indicate. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Um now I need a motion to approve the minutes for the July 11th, uh, 2022 uh meeting. [0:07:09, 0:07:27]: Is there a motion, please? Ms. Blount, so moved. Is there a second? Ms. Barber Sexton. All in favor, please indicate. Thank you very much. Okay. Board consideration to approve and authorize Georgia Power Easement, East Atlanta Road and Lee Street construction project. Mr. Washington, please. [0:07:37, 0:07:39]: Yeah, no, so we can move. [0:07:44, 0:08:04]: This is simply a reiteration of the documents that council looked at in the 12th meeting, which includes a licensing agreement and easement agreements for the properties at Lee Street and the ones right out here that we're going to give the licensing agreement for the First Baptist Church of Stockbridge to be able to park on property while the construction [0:08:04, 0:08:14]: being done. And so we're asking that the URA allow us to sign off on the documents so we can get those so they can begin work on the easements. [0:08:15, 0:08:26]: Okay and and make note that I guess the PFA met earlier this evening and they signed off on those same Yes, it's three entities that are required to sign up on the documents, the URA, the PFA and the council. [0:08:26, 0:08:27]: Okay. [0:08:28, 0:08:31]: Board, do you have any questions, concerns, thoughts? [0:08:35, 0:08:36]: Anybody? [0:08:38, 0:08:44]: Okay, I guess not then. So on that note and um need a motion to uh and uh to adopt. [0:08:44, 0:08:47]: Or to to approve this so we can go forward with all the signatures. [0:08:48, 0:08:49]: Mayor Ford. Yes, ma'am. [0:08:50, 0:08:57]: I'd like to make a motion to approve and authorize Georgia Power Easement on the East Atlanta Road and Lee Street construction project. [0:08:57, 0:08:59]: Okay, thank you, sir. Second. [0:08:59, 0:09:02]: Map for Tim second that any other questions? [0:09:02, 0:09:03]: If not all in favor, please indicate. [0:09:04, 0:09:16]: Fantastic. Okay. On that note then we'll get those done. And so that's all the business of the Urban Redevelopment Agency for this evening. So if that's the case, uh then I need a motion to adjourn the meeting. [0:09:16, 0:09:21]: Mayor Ford? Yes, sir. So moved. Okay, is there a second? Ms. Barber second, all in favor, please indicate. [0:09:21, 0:09:23]: Meeting is adjourned. [0:09:23, 0:09:24]: Thank you very much. [0:09:25, 0:09:26]: All right. [0:09:30, 0:09:32]: Can you cut out silos now? [0:09:35, 0:09:36]: There you go. Okay. [0:10:12, 0:10:15]: Yeah, for the council. [0:10:20, 0:10:22]: With the brother. [0:11:20, 0:11:23]: Yeah. [0:11:33, 0:11:36]: Yeah. [0:59:50, 0:59:52]: Hey ladies and gentlemen, we're gonna get started very shortly here. [0:59:54, 0:59:56]: Councillor, could you come to the diaspora? [1:01:40, 1:01:42]: [3743.7, 3751.7]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, I have six o'clock, so I'd like to start our council work session Tuesday, December twentieth, twenty twenty-two. [1:02:32, 1:02:37]: And invocation, uh mister John Wiggins, please. Please stand if you can. [1:02:42, 1:02:45]: Good evening, Mayor and Councillor. Let's let's bow our heads. [1:02:47, 1:03:07]: Lord, thank you for bringing us all to this occasion, to this day. Give us the strength to come before you and do the will of the city to make good decisions. Lord, give us the strength and the knowledge to go forward on all of our decisions. [1:03:07, 1:03:08]: And [1:03:10, 1:03:13]: Whatever we do, we do it all for the city of Stockbridge. [1:03:15, 1:03:33]: Lord, we love you in the name of Jesus. Everybody say Amen. Amen. Pledge the legislative United States of America. One nation. Under God. Liberty and justice for all. [1:03:34, 1:03:36]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [1:03:40, 1:03:41]: Present. [1:03:43, 1:03:44]: President. [1:03:45, 1:03:45]: Exander. [1:03:46, 1:03:51]: Present. Councilwoman Barber. Present. Councilman Blount. Present. [1:03:51, 1:03:52]: Councilwoman Gand. [1:03:54, 1:03:56]: That the record reflect Councilwoman Gantt is not an attempt. [1:03:58, 1:04:18]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate it. Council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. So moved. Uh Mr. Blount, so moved. Is there a second? Ms. Barber, second that. Okay. All in favor, please indicate. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Uh Council, please review uh the minutes, uh, draft minutes for November 14th, which is the council meeting last month. [1:04:18, 1:04:34]: month and also review the minutes for draft minutes there for November 29th, which is a council work session. And we will approve those minutes at our next council meeting next month, which is actually next year. So if there are any changes or adjustments, please let the clerk know that. [1:04:34, 1:04:37]: Madam Clerk, uh do we have any public comments at all? [1:04:38, 1:04:48]: Okay. Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate that. O Business, Council Consideration to approve the twenty twenty three City Events Calendar presented by Miss Kim Jordan, please. [1:04:55, 1:05:01]: I'm Kim Jordan, the events manager, and I have the twenty twenty three calendar for your review. [1:05:02, 1:05:08]: Would you like me to go down the list? Well, uh how about any any highlights that you wanna uh you wanna focus in on? [1:05:09, 1:05:09]: Yeah. [1:05:09, 1:05:11]: So um [1:05:12, 1:05:21]: The job fair is the first one. Food truck tasty Tuesdays will begin May second and run through August twenty ninth, except for two dates, May thirtieth and July fourth. [1:05:22, 1:05:26]: The budget set is twenty thousand dollars. It'll be at Clark Park five thirty to eight thirty. [1:05:27, 1:05:30]: Memorial march is scheduled Monday, May twenty ninth. [1:05:31, 1:05:37]: nine to eleven AM going to from the Moral Manager's parking lot to Memorial Park. [1:05:38, 1:05:42]: Juneteenth is Monday, June nineteenth from five to eight in Clark Park. [1:05:43, 1:05:44]: Well um [1:05:45, 1:05:46]: Celebrate Juneteenth. [1:05:46, 1:05:49]: with cultural dance and performances. [1:05:49, 1:06:03]: July fourth is scheduled, that'll be our second annual event for this uh holiday. On Tuesday, July fourth in the amphitheater with music, food trucks, and fireworks. Um that budget said is fifty thousand dollars and I have it scheduled from eight to eleven PM. [1:06:05, 1:06:10]: Uh back to school kickoff is ten thousand dollars in the amphitheater parking lot. [1:06:10, 1:06:15]: with backpack giveaway and school supplies and that's eleven to one Saturday, July second, twenty second. [1:06:17, 1:06:26]: And then we continue on with September 11th, the 9-11th ceremony on City Hall Steps. Um Bridge Fest is scheduled for Saturday, September 30th. [1:06:27, 1:06:30]: From twelve noon to ten PM. [1:06:31, 1:06:35]: With food trucks, vendors, rides and uh acts on the s amphitheater stage. [1:06:36, 1:06:38]: Then we have pretty in pink. [1:06:38, 1:06:40]: Lunch and the fashion show. [1:06:40, 1:06:44]: On October twelfth, traditional Thursday where then this is held from eleven AM to two PM. [1:06:45, 1:06:58]: And then the love walk for Pretty and Pink, breast cancer awareness will be Saturday, October 14th, 1030 P1. Then we have the Veterans Day lunch scheduled Friday, November 10th from 11 to 1 p.m. [1:06:59, 1:07:02]: Uh catered lunch in the Merle Manders' ballroom. [1:07:04, 1:07:07]: The next event we have is a turkey giveaway. [1:07:07, 1:07:10]: Scheduled for Saturday, November eighteenth. [1:07:13, 1:07:15]: And we did have a couple of [1:07:18, 1:07:27]: Events that may be in conflict with this one. On except that's earlier in the day. On a turkey giveaway, you mean? [1:07:27, 1:07:33]: That's early in the day, however. So Yeah, it it's it'd be over soon, within a couple hours. Doesn't take long. [1:07:33, 1:07:37]: Yeah, we gave away turkeys in like thirty minutes just last time. [1:07:39, 1:07:49]: Um there's a community Thanksgiving dinner initiative scheduled for that day. That's what I was uh talking about. It's just would overlap if people come to set up early. [1:07:52, 1:07:58]: And then followed by the volunteer appreciation dinner that uh has been added. [1:07:58, 1:08:05]: or suggested to be added as a city event with a budget and that's scheduled for Saturday, December ninth from five to eight PM. [1:08:06, 1:08:12]: Then we have the holiday festival and tree lighting on Friday, December first, five thirty to nine PM. [1:08:13, 1:08:17]: Thank you. Council, any questions for Miss uh Fukim about reference to events quase or [1:08:19, 1:08:21]: I'm so I'm sorry, sir. Stand by. Ms. Ms. Alzan, go ahead, please. [1:08:22, 1:08:28]: Yes, if you would uh I think uh appreciate the presentation. I think um [1:08:28, 1:08:31]: I don't know, Chief, are you there? Can you come up for a minute? [1:08:37, 1:08:57]: I think in the past, some of these events have shown some concern about just like the turkey giveaway being at Merrymanders, being uh it would be a better situation being over here at the amphitheater because of the traffic flow and talking with the officers. [1:08:57, 1:08:57]: And then [1:08:58, 1:09:18]: being there, we had chaos going down Burke Street all the way leading through town, whereas there needs to be some discussions about moving that event over to the amphitheater where you have 700 parking spaces and there's a lot more lead time to get through there versus uh having that event uh being at the amphitheater. [1:09:18, 1:09:26]: Chief, I know I talked to several of the guys out there on the front and uh, you know, it was kind of confusing with everything being on it. What was their feedback to you? [1:09:28, 1:09:48]: Yeah, well I think just because of the volume of uh of folks that attend these events here, obviously the um the streets, the way they're configured there make it difficult for traffic control. Um the amphitheater i is is obviously a a much better option to the extent that um you know event staff and uh the council and and [1:09:48, 1:10:08]: and uh city manager um you know agreed to relocate vents. Uh obviously there's a lot of different avenues with the with the multiple exits coming out of there and there's just different ways we can configure things with traffic in order to um uh cut down on the uh the traffic overflow um that that we see over there on Burke Street as a result of some of these other events. [1:10:08, 1:10:18]: So um in in my opinion, if you ask my professional opinion, I think the amphitheater is a much better option for uh these events, especially when we have um events that involve multiple vehicles such as the Turkey giveaway. [1:10:19, 1:10:39]: Yeah, thank you, Chief. I appreciate that. Cause uh again we had people going through the library parking lot. It was kind of uh all confusing. I appreciate that input. And uh to the rest of the council members, I know we have a a list of events up here. I know this year we couldn't have a New Year's Eve event. [1:10:39, 1:10:59]: event because of some other uh issues that were going on. I think we should go back and try to revisit that New Year's Eve event uh for the city, uh extending the season uh until a later date uh where we could have a real signature event uh for the city. [1:10:59, 1:11:05]: and then uh without any of the encumbrances that we were facing. [1:11:05, 1:11:13]: Okay. Food for thought. Is that what you're getting at? Yes. Okay, thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you, Chief, for your recommendation and thoughts on that. Miraple Tim, please. Uh [1:11:14, 1:11:34]: Councilman Alexander, I think we may need to confirm the uh ampathy of the parking lot for the Turkey uh giveaway. I I think that may be appropriate for us to to actually vote on that. I know we just sort of just discussed it, but I just think we need to confirm that. Um, and you know you [1:11:34, 1:11:51]: You may want to come back and do that. Um, Mrs. Jordan, uh I do see where these two events are pending. I hope hopefully they are confirmed, the Turkey giveaway and the veterans. I mean I'm sorry, the volunteer appreciation. Um confirmed but pending your your approval. [1:11:51, 1:11:52]: Or um [1:11:53, 1:11:59]: the change in the park to the parking lot of the amphitheater and then adding volunteer appreciation as a city event. [1:12:00, 1:12:20]: Yes, yes. And you know, you and I sort of had that discussion. I know the um the one we had a few weeks ago was very successful and thank you uh for your help on that. And uh Mrs. Ross wanna thank you as well. Uh I think it was I think we did show our appreciation to our volunteers and to our citizens. Uh you and I had a [1:12:19, 1:12:39]: a discussion about uh periodical uh updates to the council uh as far as all of these events and and and I I wholeheartedly would would would would agree that and I don't have a timeline but I would appreciate if you would come before the council. I know I look like the [1:12:39, 1:12:59]: Memorial March is coming up. That you would just come back and share the plan with us and see how we can get involved to make sure that we're sort of speaking, you know, the same language in the community because just looking at the history of Memorial March, we've had [1:12:59, 1:13:19]: Up to four and five hundred participants. So if we are sort of in tune and we're all speaking the same, then we could be the foot soldiers for you out in the community, getting folks involved. And I think this is the same with all of these events. [1:13:19, 1:13:39]: to be out there uh recruiting and encouraging folks to participate in all of these city events. So I think it would be good if you would get with the council and the mayor and the city manager to get on the agenda to come fall and just give council updates a few weeks before air. [1:13:39, 1:13:40]: Yeah. [1:13:41, 1:13:47]: Yes, sir, I can do that. Right. May I yield back. Thank you. I appreciate it. You're go ahead, Mr. Blood. [1:13:47, 1:13:49]: Um [1:13:49, 1:13:54]: I think with for me, I think when it comes to events, um [1:13:55, 1:14:15]: I think that it's a good idea to be on the same page on on how these events have functioned in the past. And that let that be the template of the or the blueprint on how we move forward with those events. And if we deviate from that, then obviously we're expecting one thing and something else happens. I I think that when [1:14:15, 1:14:19]: we look at events in the in as a whole. [1:14:19, 1:14:29]: just kinda know how that that event went and we would kinda like to see the same thing. That that that level of um that that level of uh um [1:14:30, 1:14:47]: activity, if you will, done in those events. I me personally I don't need a update. I don't think we need a update on how you're gonna do the events. If you just get in tune on how those events have been ran in the past, uh, be that through uh some type of committee or whatever. [1:14:48, 1:15:00]: Um and so I think that when we put put it in your hand to run an event, I wanna just see the event ran, you know. Um on this last um on on the last um [1:15:01, 1:15:11]: Calendar we had, one of the questions that came up is why would we change the date from the 23rd of September to the 30th? [1:15:11, 1:15:14]: But I see on this one, you've changed the date. [1:15:15, 1:15:21]: Um we've never been given a uh an explanation of why we're gonna change the date. [1:15:21, 1:15:32]: There was a conflict with the I think it was a fall festival, was that the one? I'm sorry. There was a conflict with the councilperson's initiative, I believe, and it was requested that I change the date. [1:15:33, 1:15:45]: Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. No, it was um an amphitheater event on that day. Okay. And that's why I was changing because it's an amphitheater event on that day. Concert. [1:15:46, 1:15:58]: That's fine. I just know that we it it was a question about that and it was it was never brought forward or what that what what was the issue with that. Uh also when we talk about doing events and having it [1:15:58, 1:16:18]: Uh at the at at the level what we expect that we've had in the past. One that I want to comment on is is the back to school kickoff. And I know that we we have it listed here uh back to school backpack giveaway. Yes. But it's uh lot more a lot more detailed is when you say [1:16:18, 1:16:38]: And I I th I think Mr. Thomas for starting it when he first came on council, then I took the baton and we took it to another level. But we but we wanted to stay at that level. Okay. We wanted to mean more than just a backpack giveaway because when you say kickoff and it was so festive and all these things, we have pictures in in the office and [1:16:38, 1:16:58]: And things that went on during that. We uh we're budgeting it so it could be festive, so it could be something that kids can come to and have a good time, similar to what you had, but we sh we just started it so late and it's so uh detailed, you know, it it entails more to have things in place as [1:16:58, 1:17:17]: instead of last minute like that and it just kinda helps, you know. Okay. And and it kinda y y but you see what I mean.'Cause and all those people that came out and and any anything I can do to help, I'm I'm I'm I'm willing uh when it comes to sponsors or whatever. It's festive and interactive for the people who attend. [1:17:18, 1:17:21]: Thanks, I appreciate it. I'm I'm fine. Appreciate thanks for what you do. [1:17:22, 1:17:27]: Counselor, any other questions about the calendar, Vest calendar at all? Uh yeah, okay. [1:17:27, 1:17:28]: Go ahead, please. [1:17:34, 1:17:35]: As we go about [1:17:36, 1:17:56]: things. I just want to talk to the council about this in uh the way that we do things. Now, uh we worked our way through uh how we do on the Fourth of July and these free city events where we're gonna just basically put it out and basically come as you are, uh, versus uh how that ticketing thing certainly wasn't uh [1:17:56, 1:18:04]: uh working out for us. But there's been a desire, especially I think there needs to be a distinction between [1:18:04, 1:18:24]: Paid concerts and free city events. Now, when we first started planning the amphitheater, it was supposed to be everybody come, everybody welcome. You look at those renditions, you have people coming in, they bring their own chairs, they bring a blanket, they do what have you. There's no revenue. [1:18:24, 1:18:35]: There's uh for those free city events, there's no revenue uh trigger or there's no revenue uh somet some that that we would be concerned about because it's a free event. [1:18:36, 1:18:56]: I really would wish that we would consider allowing people to, for the free events, to bring in their chair or their blanket to get comfortable for the free events because we have plenty of space in there at that time. Now for the paid concerts, obviously the promoter has to generate a certain amount of [1:18:56, 1:19:16]: Profit, but for the free concerts when everybody comes, because as I think back to July the 4th, we had a thousand uh thousand people sitting outside that couldn't come in because they didn't want to leave their chairs. They wanted we had all these empty seats, but they didn't want to sit in the fixed seating, they wanted to sit in [1:19:16, 1:19:36]: their own uh lawn chairs. And I think we've had uh some communications from some of the folks who really would like to enjoy that. I'd like to just kind of get the count the council to chime in to see what you think about actually for the free not not for the paid events, but for the free city events, allowing people to bring [1:19:36, 1:19:41]: in their own blankets and chairs and get comfortable uh on the lawn section. [1:19:41, 1:19:41]: Yeah. [1:19:41, 1:19:42]: Yeah, go ahead, sir. [1:19:43, 1:19:52]: Uh I I I have to concur with Mr. Alexander on that. I think that one of the things that we could look at, Kim, and you you all are doing it so you tell me if it works. [1:19:52, 1:19:54]: I think that we have enough seating. [1:19:55, 1:19:57]: But I think that the lawn chairs [1:19:57, 1:20:01]: I think that I don't think we should have chairs on the grassy areas. Okay. [1:20:01, 1:20:10]: Because it gives those people that are sitting, all those people that were sitting out there on the grass, they come inside and sit on the grass. And I think we have enough seating. [1:20:10, 1:20:30]: uh for free concerts. And w because once we get so many people in anyway, we're gonna I mean, it's over. We close the doors. You know, it's just we had capacity. But you all have to eyeball that and make that determination. So yes, we had a plan in place in order to do that and we had security um counting as well. [1:20:30, 1:20:37]: Yeah, bec because I in the past and th we we've had people to for the free concerts you gotta do this and gotta do that. [1:20:37, 1:20:39]: For me, I say just come. [1:20:40, 1:20:43]: You know, we got a free counselor, just come because [1:20:43, 1:20:53]: You you're gonna have people coming in town that that that doesn't know the process, but then they're stuck outside because they didn't sign up or whatever. I just think if we have a free concert [1:20:54, 1:21:07]: I think it's that. You put security in place and you have a free concert and people come in. You know, I for me. Uh I I I'm just speaking for me, but I do concur that, you know, if it's a free concert, just let everybody come in and wherever you gotta stop, stop it. [1:21:07, 1:21:09]: It just makes it to me it makes it [1:21:09, 1:21:23]: It just it just it it just facilitates the community and and everybody that's coming around that hears about Stockbury is a chance to not have to technically be outside the door, but that they came and they was able to come in because they was here to to enjoy it. [1:21:23, 1:21:29]: I agree and also we can use that model from Bridgefest because that was wide open and it worked really well. [1:21:31, 1:21:51]: Mary Pro Tem, go ahead, please. Thank you. What I would suggest would that whatever we do come up with, whether it's a city event, paid event, we need to get the message, the language on our website very clearly, what the rules. [1:21:50, 1:22:10]: are. You know, we had issues last year. You can bring this in, you can't bring that in, this, that. So I think in going forward, we just need to get together and get that message correct. And hopefully um, you know, we can we can, you know, the amphitheater folks, the event staff, we can just sort of get [1:22:10, 1:22:23]: that message together. And that's the only recommendation I will make. Whatever it is, let's get it on the website, be consistent with it, and let everybody be understanding that this is the policy. Yes, I agree. Thank you, Mira. [1:22:23, 1:22:43]: No problem, welcome sir. I I think by looking at the list, the very first event like that would be the Fourth of July, then comes the Bridge Fest itself. Um and um that might be it utilizing the actual amphitheater itself, the sit sitting area. Uh but anyway, uh good thoughts and I'm pretty sure we'll work through this whole process. [1:22:43, 1:22:53]: as we swing around to the new calendar year. Any other comments, Council? And if you may I'd like to um um motion to approve the uh calendar presentation. No problem. Is there a second? [1:22:55, 1:23:00]: No chime in on the New Year's Eve Eve event. Nobody w interested in doing it. [1:23:02, 1:23:04]: All right, for discussion. I mean [1:23:04, 1:23:20]: I guess it could be done, but uh I've no other comments thus far. I mean it's it's something that uh if we don't wanna comment something that through the course of this uh over course of the year we could make some adjustments on that, I'm pretty sure. Right. I just didn't wanna have to go you know how it is, we go back and add it right now, we're doing the budget, so [1:23:20, 1:23:40]: Uh w if we're gonna do it, we need to set aside an amount for it. And obviously we built this facility. We could uh claim this event for New Year's Eve and and just have it be our primetime event. Maybe Ms. Gantt might have a few words to say. I I I think we need to new need to do that New Year's Eve event. I mean [1:23:40, 1:23:48]: What's what else is there really to do besides going downtown? Uh if we do it, I mean we could do a big blast here downtown. [1:23:49, 1:23:55]: Mayor Ford. Yeah, yeah, sir. Go ahead, please. Um I I would not ob object to it. Um [1:23:55, 1:24:07]: I think for twenty twenty four though, uh I don't see possible of course for for twenty twenty three, but uh I I think it's worth discussing. [1:24:07, 1:24:10]: uh the possibility of [1:24:10, 1:24:13]: Twenty twenty four. [1:24:14, 1:24:34]: Um so my point is I I don't have a problem in discussing that to see how feasible it really is because you know we are talking about the winter months and it's already projected what this new year is gonna be, but uh councilman Alexander, I I'm open to that discussion for 2024. [1:24:34, 1:24:34]: More. [1:24:35, 1:24:38]: All right, any other comments? Yeah, Mayor. Go ahead, please. [1:24:38, 1:24:47]: You know, I'm I'm not closed minded to any suggestions by any council member. Either I'm for it or I'm against it. That's just the way I roll. [1:24:48, 1:24:50]: Um but for me I think that [1:24:50, 1:24:52]: We're in a point in time now with the city. [1:24:53, 1:24:59]: That we have to make sure we have grips on everything that we have on before we start to because that's gonna be a [1:25:00, 1:25:11]: It's gonna be an interesting funded event. You know, I d have no idea what that what funds are be needed for that event. I think that uh in twenty twenty-three we need to make sure that we're [1:25:12, 1:25:20]: We're in tune with getting a hold and handle of what we need to do and what we need to what needs to happen in order that we are able to financially. [1:25:20, 1:25:32]: move forward, where there's other events that's gonna come in twenty twenty four or whatever. So for me, I wouldn't I'm not for adding any other events now, but I'm okay with entertaining. [1:25:32, 1:25:38]: That thought and I think that w the entertainment of that thought is not to go into details of what that would entail. [1:25:39, 1:25:42]: Uh if we're gonna talk about it throughout twenty twenty three. [1:25:42, 1:25:46]: But to say is that something we want in the f want in the future? [1:25:46, 1:25:48]: Maybe, but I think for me. [1:25:48, 1:25:54]: That we have to make sure that we're uh we're getting a handle on everything financially now. [1:25:55, 1:26:15]: All right, Mr. Alexander, go ahead, please. Yeah, let me make it clear. I'm not talking about a free city event, okay? I'm talking about a paid city event. It's a concert. People do stuff like that on that particular time where it's actually generates revenue uh for us with primetime artists that will come and folks with uh [1:26:15, 1:26:29]: uh uh participate in that. That's a discussion I think we could probably have with uh our our events team to see uh what it is that we could do. I think it actually could make money for the city versus costing us money. [1:26:30, 1:26:50]: Mayor, one last comment. You got another comment? Go again, please. And I and I I I appreciate what Ms. Alexander is saying. But one of the things we have to do as a city is look at our gains and losses, even from throughout the year what we just had for paid concerts. We have we have nothing concrete to gauge. [1:26:50, 1:27:10]: right now for me. Um whether that can happen throughout this year and we can say, okay, our gains and losses are here because we've had paid concerts throughout the year and this is this is what it's doing. We don't have nothing to gauge on that yet. I so I f that's for me. [1:27:10, 1:27:18]: Entertaining that, I'm fine with that. But for me, we have nothing to gauge our paid concerts as it is. [1:27:18, 1:27:19]: All right. [1:27:19, 1:27:31]: Any other comments and if not, then once again, y uh Mr. Blount, you made a motion, is that correct? Yes. Uh to accept uh the calendar as it is as presented. Is there a second to that motion? [1:27:32, 1:27:34]: Is there a second to the motion? [1:27:34, 1:27:51]: Uh clarification, we had some kinda we did have some uh additional changes that that staff was going to review. Right. Mr. Blount, you including the uh additional language as bringing that uh the come as you are and all of that is included. [1:27:52, 1:28:10]: Yeah, I I'm uh yeah, but I I thought all of that was gonna be in the motion because it to say come as you are, that's something that we have to s we can do that at any time. Okay. Motion that but w the actual calendar is what we're voting on itself. That that is correct. To say how we do it, that could come at any moment. But the actual calendar itself is uh [1:28:11, 1:28:12]: Uh w along we're in agreement. Thank you. [1:28:13, 1:28:14]: The motion is made. Is there a second? [1:28:15, 1:28:18]: Second. All right. All in favor and motion, please indicate. [1:28:19, 1:28:22]: All right, as you now see, thank you very much. Thank you, Kim, appreciate it. Thanks so much. [1:28:23, 1:28:32]: What's next is a public hearing, final reading and adoption of of the proposed 2023 operating budget and capital improvement plan. Mr. Wiggins, please. [1:28:36, 1:28:38]: Good evening, man. Eve evening. [1:28:42, 1:28:43]: Mm-hmm. [1:28:45, 1:28:47]: See that uh [1:28:48, 1:28:55]: Staff report to approve the 2023 fiscal year budget. [1:28:57, 1:29:15]: in accordance with the budget rules that laid out strictly for uh with chapter 81 of title 36 of George Code for holding properly notice public hearing. We had the first meeting of public hearing on November 7th. [1:29:17, 1:29:26]: We have a second meeting and public notice hearing on November 26th. [1:29:30, 1:29:36]: Okay, I'm gonna correct that. The first one was November fourteenth. Correct. Second one November twenty nine. [1:29:37, 1:29:50]: Second was the first one was the 14th, the second was the 29th, and the third one was at least on the twelfth. Uh he comes before you today to have the fourth reading public hearing. [1:30:08, 1:30:10]: Let's pick down the airport. [1:30:14, 1:30:15]: Sorry. [1:30:15, 1:30:21]: Is there any questions, concerns, or a motion for this? Um what your hands up, Ms. Bar, what do you what does that mean? [1:30:21, 1:30:27]: Mr. Wiggins, um, we talked about several of the positions that were [1:30:28, 1:30:31]: included in the budget but were not funded. [1:30:32, 1:30:38]: So I'm looking at um several of those positions and they're still included. [1:30:40, 1:30:40]: Yeah, just [1:30:45, 1:30:55]: uh uh just put them on the book so they're not flashing. So anytime next year if one position is needed. [1:30:57, 1:31:01]: and find a different position but that position will be our first. [1:31:10, 1:31:30]: and getting information for how much our position is gonna cost us as far as uh salary as well as benefits. So we'll be all prepared if comes a need to ask for those positions. Um that probably won't be assessed six months into the budget if those positions need to not [1:31:30, 1:31:37]: Just go the next year and see if we can come back in twenty twenty four to maybe add score the position again with the funding. [1:31:39, 1:31:43]: But now they're not they're not on completely. [1:31:44, 1:31:45]: Thank you. [1:31:47, 1:31:50]: Mr. Aaron, will you come to the podium? [1:32:01, 1:32:21]: Uh Mr. Aaron, we made leaps and bounds in the overall appearance of the city and the commitment that we have for beautification and right-of-way maintenance and that type of thing. Now, I want to look at this budget and I want you to understand and explain to me, uh, kind of like Councilwoman [1:32:20, 1:32:40]: M member Blount said that we have established a new standard and that that new standard will be moving forward and it will be looking at improvement and we benchmark where we want to go in terms of these contractors uh executing at a high level and uh us being committed to those. [1:32:40, 1:32:45]: those uh that that those contracts and staffing. [1:32:47, 1:33:01]: Yes, sir. We we're gonna continue to maintain the standard that we've established that's going forward, whether it's with the current city or the expanded city, we're gonna continue to provide the services that we're currently providing at the level that we're providing it at. [1:33:01, 1:33:21]: Okay, in addition to that, we've talked about it a couple of times about doing something that this council had voted on and approved for doing something special at Hudson Bridge Road and on Campground Road. But those projects had not moved forward in absence of no qualified bidder. [1:33:21, 1:33:34]: And we're gonna go to Yellowstone or or whoever the contractor was to execute those. Uh those exits still need to be fine tuned. And uh the council has already voted some time ago to move that forward. [1:33:34, 1:33:45]: N when we brought those forward, those were two plans that were brought forward. They were not approved. We had a a plan for Hudson Bridge Road as well as a plan for [1:33:45, 1:33:49]: uh campground to complete where we stopped at. [1:33:50, 1:34:03]: Those plans those were brought forward with the previous city manager. Those were not approved. They weren't well, they weren't brought to the council because the council had already voted to approve for the for them to move forward. So when w would would we get to see them? [1:34:03, 1:34:07]: I have to look back at the minutes, but I'm sure that they were presented [1:34:08, 1:34:09]: Not to us. [1:34:10, 1:34:25]: Yes, we had two well, we had two proposals to do those projects. As you said, the previous city city manager and obviously that's what scon some time ago, I certainly would like to see uh that brought back before so because those that those uh [1:34:26, 1:34:46]: uh corridors are extremely important to where we're trying to go'cause when somebody pulls off there and they they represent, they see us, we got the wayfinding signage started uh that we'll have going at those exits as well. So I I still have the proposals. I will uh submit them to Mr. Gardner and let him disseminate them to [1:34:46, 1:34:53]: to mayor and council to get a consensus as to how they want us to move forward with them. But I do have the proposals. [1:34:53, 1:35:13]: Okay. And as I said, you have everything that you need to execute execute at a high level and to continue to move your department uh forward in in excellence. There are some equipment requests in the FY 2023 budget to meet what's gonna be required for the maintenance and add it right. [1:35:13, 1:35:18]: [5719.4, 5736.3]: approximately sixty one miles of roadway. So we're going from a hundred and six miles up to a hundred and sixty seven miles. So we've almost doubled is set I we increased our road mileage by about seventy five percent. So we've already started taking action to uh [1:35:36, 1:35:51]: move forward with maintaining those right of ways with litter pickup and mowing and things of that sort. So we've been riding for the last three weeks, kind of surveying the roads to see some of the concerns and issues we're gonna have to address immediately. [1:35:51, 1:36:11]: So there are a lot of things that are gonna be coming to uh mayor and council's attention, namely uh we're gonna have to do some work on Old Conyards Road, Mount Zion Road, East Atlanta Road. There's some concerns with um Walt Stevens Road. So there are gonna be some things that come forward. [1:36:11, 1:36:30]: That we're gonna need you to assist in moving forward if we're gonna continue to maintain our infrastructure as as we're currently doing within the current city limits. So are you you working with Ms. Russell in order to look at additional funding and uh that may be potentially out there as well? [1:36:30, 1:36:35]: Yes, sir. We have constant conversation with Ms. Russell in reference to grants. [1:36:36, 1:36:40]: Okay. Thank you, sir. Mr. Blonde, go ahead, please. [1:36:40, 1:36:42]: Yeah, Mr. Aaron, why are you up here if you don't mind? [1:36:44, 1:36:50]: Is it in your budget for staff or is it in the budget for contractors? [1:36:50, 1:36:54]: When we talk about pressure washing areas. [1:36:55, 1:37:02]: Like City Hall, the fountain and all that, is that something that's that under the budget on a contract or is that be under the budget with a stuff? [1:37:03, 1:37:23]: Is there okay. Well then I don't want to get into specifics with it. Then I guess I have to talk to you about it because if it's done by staff, is it so it's already whatever's whatever the budget the staff have, doing that job is understaffed now and then it's not anything extra for that. It's that you have to just do it. Is that what you're saying? The only thing we [1:37:23, 1:37:43]: contracted out for pressure washing was after the amphitheater was completed. We did have a contract to come in and pressure wash City Hall because of the elevations of the roof and things of that nature. But the majority of it is done in-house. So we have the equipment and everything to do what we need to do around here and and and [1:37:43, 1:37:54]: Now. Yes, sir. The uh streetscape across the street is on a quarterly schedule as well as downtown sidewalks and infrastructure down there we do that. [1:37:55, 1:38:01]: Because one and the reason I'm asking, because I think that when you go to a city, where there's a city or stop bridge or any city [1:38:02, 1:38:05]: You look at that city hall. [1:38:05, 1:38:14]: as being the focal point of what you want to see in that city. And when we look at and I think one time before, even prior to you coming, we talked about [1:38:14, 1:38:23]: that. And that's why I wanted to know where is the funding already there. But you're saying that the that's in the overall scheme of the of staff, but I I would ask that. [1:38:23, 1:38:27]: You guys would somebody, whether it's you or the [1:38:27, 1:38:42]: uh of the uh the uh public work manager somebody if it's there to just come and take a look at w where is needed. I'll meet with our facility maintenance staff tomorrow. So address those concerns. [1:38:42, 1:38:45]: Any other questions from the council? Mayor Ford. I'm sorry, go ahead please. [1:38:46, 1:38:52]: Uh, Mr. Wiggins, um I wanna ask the same question. [1:38:54, 1:39:14]: But in a different way, uh about the positions uh that were not funded. And I know it's clear you said that uh they're here, they're marked in yellow, they're not funded. I get that. But I want to make sure, and I know this is [1:39:14, 1:39:34]: Is a redundant question, but if you don't mind, um tolerate this question. So in the division line where it says uh regular salaries, that the the the money, the finances, it is not. [1:39:34, 1:39:54]: calculated in that number in within each division that these positions will appear in. So no those okay you're absolutely correct. They are not in there's no salary for any of those positions that's um not funded they're not in [1:39:53, 1:39:56]: In that uh cyber line. Thank you. [1:39:57, 1:40:17]: Mayor, I'll yi back. Oh, no problem. Appreciate it. Any other questions from the council? Really quick. Go ahead, please. Mr. Aaron, um, we've endeavored and I just looked out that window and that ten foot path looks so beautiful out there, man. It looks amazing. We got the ten foot path here. We got it through the amphitheater. They're working on North Lee Street. Uh [1:40:17, 1:40:24]: And South Lee Street. The only piece that we don't have done is the East Atlanta roadside. [1:40:24, 1:40:28]: Because that side like right by city hall in front of municipal court. [1:40:29, 1:40:49]: That's still uh just uh not fitting into that puzzle as you go around. Now we have uh we bonded money for multi-use paths that could be used to extend that portion right there from uh the municipal court to East Atlanta Road, where we'll have a full circle and everything would be. [1:40:49, 1:41:09]: 10 foot at that point. So when somebody would come down to walk around the trail, they would literally be able to walk on a path all the way around City Hall through a course. So we have money again that we bonded for that, that we certainly would be able to use for trails. Certainly, would staff be able to execute that? [1:41:08, 1:41:28]: that why a nigga know. Well, that would have to first of all it would have to get approval from G Dot because that's their right of way. Mm-hmm. So unless G Dot approve it, then you can't move forward with increasing the width of the sidewalk. So the first thing would be to contact G Dot to see if they would grant the city approval to [1:41:28, 1:41:31]: put ten foot sidewalks on North Henry. [1:41:32, 1:41:52]: Yeah, certainly. I think yeah, well, you when you look at it and I've looked at it a hundred times, it's about fifteen or twenty feet there. And on the other side of North Henry Boulevard in front of uh Stockbridge Elementary, we have the pass uh on that side. But for the circular course, in order to do that, I guess we would just like you said, we would need to check with G. [1:41:52, 1:42:12]: dot and I think we're ready at the city to move forward with getting the downtown connected now that we have the money because the money basically is just sitting there. If they were would staff be able to handle it uh would a contractor need to be called in no maybe the contract because staff wouldn't be able to handle it. That would have to be a contractor but we we could do it one [1:42:12, 1:42:21]: one or two ways we can use our on call mm uh contract or you could bid it out depending on the quantities of concrete that you will install for those sidewalks. [1:42:21, 1:42:35]: The reason that I asked that, I mean, we got a contractor out there right now. So I mean it might be in our benefits is they're already on site to at least check to see whether or not they could do it since we have a pot since the money is already there. [1:42:36, 1:42:49]: They they can do it, but the only concern I have is the more as you keep adding on to this project, then it extends their time frame. So our goal is to make sure that we go ahead and get least re [1:42:49, 1:42:51]: And East Atlanta Road. [1:42:52, 1:43:12]: finish first and not hinder them by saying, well, we we adding this on to it because this project has already been long enough. So I would suggest if we're gonna do that, the first thing would be if G DOT's gonna give us approval. And then you're gonna have to, even if they give us the approval, you're gonna have to provide them with a set of plans. [1:43:12, 1:43:32]: Plans detailing that sidewalk installation. They're just not gonna say, yeah, you can do it and not have a design for it. So if that's the wish of uh mayor and council, then we'll contact G Dot about the possibility of installing 10-foot sidewalks on both sides of North Henry. [1:43:32, 1:43:43]: Boulevard. Well and and as you said, certainly wouldn't would not want to hold up the project one minute. You would want to it would be an addition to not slowing down anything else. But thank you. [1:43:43, 1:44:03]: I I would think if the council wishes, I would think that'd be a good idea to check with them. But here's food for thought. You talk about bonding money there, Mr. Alessandra, but the point of it is you think what last year, last November, we passed a T PLOS. So it's T S PLOSS money that the city's gonna get, and we the council need to set the priorities for how we're gonna use that. And that's where we have to come in and and and make that. [1:44:03, 1:44:23]: decision whether you know what we're gonna do first and and things of this nature and that could be part of the process because you're talking about connecting downtown east and west side you were talking about connecting neighborhoods with one another there are certain neighborhoods that are underserved that need to have probably higher priority than other neighborhoods that's something we've got to put our heads together and figure out how we're gonna do that because money's coming. Absolutely I just want you to understand [1:44:23, 1:44:43]: We already bonded the mil the built the million dollars when we did the police department. So the money is sitting there. And as you said, uh when the um when the uh when the t the T plus money is being collected, so Mr. Wiggins can probably tell you we're collecting three, four hundred thousand four hundred thousand dollars a month. So the money is gonna be there. So [1:44:43, 1:44:47]: So uh it's something that we need to talk about. [1:44:47, 1:44:59]: Per month. Every month, yeah. Per month. Well obviously that's a that's a session that we need to collectively have and then set the priorities for that as well as we swing around the new calendar year. Any other question for Mr. Aaron? One one. Go ahead, please, sir. [1:44:59, 1:45:06]: And and I'm trying to see make sure funding for projects are there. That's what I'm trying to do before we pass this budget. [1:45:06, 1:45:26]: When we talk about crate murders, are we cutting them every year? Because if you don't, they just grow taller and we got some growing into the wires. Or is the city actually cutting the crate mar sh pruning them back every year? They're maintained as part of our landscaping contract. They have a cutting schedule and so they maintain and cut. [1:45:26, 1:45:28]: in film back the great murder. [1:45:28, 1:45:48]: No, it's a difference between maintaining them and cutting. Exactly. I'm talking about we we have to cut them because I'm saying is that so that's a normal function of staff? That's in the scope of services for the uh landscape and Yellowstone maintains. There are some crate myrtles that staff maintain, like on [1:45:48, 1:45:58]: Jim Clark, those are trimmed and maintained by the staff, but the ones around the facility, City Hall, Municipal Court, they're maintained as part of the landscaping contract. [1:45:59, 1:46:02]: But is that maintaining is to cut them back? Yes, sir. [1:46:02, 1:46:11]: So when we come out here one day, we're gonna see them all cut. Yes, when they're when they're on the schedule to be cut, they will cut. You will definitely notice that they've been cut. [1:46:12, 1:46:13]: Not trim. [1:46:14, 1:46:22]: Mm. So I'm just I'm sorry to set up but you don't trim crepe murders. You have to cut'em off. If you don't they're gonna grow extra high. [1:46:22, 1:46:41]: Yes. Okay. All right. Come here, real quick. Yeah, go Mr. Blount, I'm right on the board with you because this look like a mess out here. If you're coming over the bridge and I think all of us know why those green, evergreen trees were really planted there. They weren't really part of the vegetation for the city. [1:46:42, 1:47:00]: that was during the dispute with the flower shop and all of that. Cause we just got a a a monstrous thing growing over here that really hasn't that serves no purpose, that really needs to be cleaned up. And all of these trees really need to be cut back and it needs to be uh it needs to be uh [1:47:01, 1:47:21]: It needs to be tightened up. It really is a mess out there because you just got a jungle growing right here by City Hall where you can't even see the amphitheater and a lot of the things there. But again, we know why those evergreen trees were planted. They didn't have anything to do with the uh the landscaping plan for the city. [1:47:21, 1:47:31]: city, they were to hide the flower shop. So at some point we might just need to take some of that stuff out of there to uh to go along with the landscaping plan to [1:47:32, 1:47:36]: uh tightness tighten this uh so I'm with you uh we wanna s go ahead and [1:47:36, 1:47:42]: s uh charge staff with cutting all of these trees back and cleaning this up. I think we need to do that. [1:47:42, 1:47:43]: So [1:47:43, 1:47:57]: At one time Main Street did have a a proposal for beautifying that area. I know when I initially when I got here in two thousand sixteen, Kira had a plan of how they want to beautify that that vacant lot there. So [1:47:58, 1:48:15]: So we probably need to revisit that and then uh and then uh go from there and see how how that uh shapes out. Yes. Okay. Any other questions, concerns before we go before I sit down, uh uh am I being requested to contact G Dot about the sidewalks on North Henry? [1:48:15, 1:48:20]: Well I would think uh I would think is that all right the counselor? [1:48:20, 1:48:40]: Wanna check with G Doc? You can you can check G Dot with a list of things. Yeah, that's right. Check go ahead and check with him. Yeah, I think that'd be good to tell me final what they have to say. And one final thing, if I could. The median on Highway 138, that's in the contract with the writer with the mate uh uh it's seventy five. It's a mess. We need to get somebody out there to fix that. Okay. [1:48:41, 1:48:53]: All right, so anything else from Mr. Wiggins on the the budget here? Uh if not, I'm looking for a motion to accept the budget as as stated. Yes sir. [1:48:54, 1:49:12]: Oh you know what? That that's thank you very much, sir. Thank you very much. There is a public hearing. Thank you. See, even I forget things from time to time. Okay, open public hearing. All right, so I'm gonna uh start on my my left side. Any anybody for the public hearing uh any for for the budget that wants to make a comment? Okay and on the right? [1:49:14, 1:49:19]: My the right side, which is my left here in this aspect. In the middle or before right on this side. [1:49:20, 1:49:35]: Seeing none. Anybody against any d against any comments from the audience? My far left, the middle, and the center and the far right. No comments. All right. Public hearing is closed. Now council. I need a motion to accept this uh budget, please. Yes. [1:49:36, 1:49:37]: So you [1:49:37, 1:49:46]: Yes, as recommended by staff and the treasurer, uh the twenty twenty-twenty-three budget, I want to make a motion to approve as recommended. [1:49:46, 1:49:47]: All right, sir, second. [1:49:50, 1:49:50]: Is there a second? [1:49:53, 1:49:55]: Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and [1:49:55, 1:50:01]: Okay. Lake she give us games second that's a choice. I second. Okay, she seconded that. Discussion. [1:50:01, 1:50:12]: Yeah, no one question. Mr. Wiggins on the on this budget, mhm, because we had some finagling and whatever's done, what portion of this budget is being [1:50:13, 1:50:25]: totaled out or if you will, from fund balance to to get a balanced budget. How much do we have? How much of the the fund balance we're using? Yeah, what is the amount of fund balance we're using to balance this budget? [1:50:25, 1:50:36]: It it'll be in the revenues, it'll be like four four million. Four point four million. We'll use them how much a fund balance to balance the budget? To be exact, it's gonna be I think four point five million. [1:50:38, 1:50:40]: Dot two [1:50:55, 1:50:55]: Yeah. [1:50:56, 1:50:58]: Exactly. Four point five million. [1:50:58, 1:51:02]: We're using four point five million of of our savings to balance the budget. [1:51:03, 1:51:14]: That is that is yes. I wanna say balance the budget, but that's four point five, that's that's what we uh a budgeting. Without the we might not use it all though. [1:51:14, 1:51:24]: Without the four point five estimates that we have, then the budget wouldn't be balanced. Is that correct? That's correct. That's why I use the term four point five to balance the budget. [1:51:24, 1:51:26]: Yeah, y you're right. You're right. [1:51:27, 1:51:32]: Right, then motion was made in a second. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:51:34, 1:51:37]: Oppose. You you you force her or of guess? [1:51:37, 1:51:50]: You're four. Okay. All four I got four votes for. Opposed? Abstain? You abstain. Four zero one motion uh motion passed. Thank you, Mr. Wiggins. All right. We do it. Thank you. [1:51:54, 1:52:14]: All right, the governing authority of the city intends to consider the vote upon the ordinance that will provide an increase in compensation for the members of the governing authority. And will provide the said increase for council members to shall increase from twelve thousand to twenty thousand annually, and for the mayor shall increase from fourteen four to twenty-two four annually. [1:52:14, 1:52:22]: If so approved, uh well says December twelfth here, and salaries will be effective on January twenty twenty four. Presented by Mr. Washington, please. [1:52:34, 1:52:54]: Good afternoon, Mayor and Council. This is just the culmination of the request to increase salaries based off based off of the need for the duties that you all have been performing. And so the vote would be tonight for the amounts as requested in the in the resolution and what would be the ordinance. [1:52:54, 1:53:11]: Okay. Any questions for Mr. Washington Council? And this is also this is also public meeting so let me open this up. There are no questions. Uh let me open it up right now. Okay, anybody that's for the conversation increase, uh please come forward on the on my very far left. [1:53:12, 1:53:15]: In the middle, my far right. [1:53:16, 1:53:20]: I see nothing for. Anybody against in the far left? [1:53:21, 1:53:41]: In the middle, order for all right. Seeing none. So public hearing and that aspect is closed. Council uh need a motion, unless there's any further discussion, I need a motion to accept this uh this increase here. Uh mayor. Yes sir. I'd like to make the uh motion to approve the uh salary increase for council uh as [1:53:41, 1:53:44]: Uh described by the attorney. Okay, is there a second? [1:53:46, 1:53:47]: Is there a second? [1:53:49, 1:53:50]: Mayor Pro Temp seconds that. [1:53:51, 1:53:54]: Okay. There's no further discussion. All in favor, please indicate. [1:53:56, 1:53:56]: All opposed. [1:53:58, 1:54:02]: Abstain. Three one one. Motion passed. Thank you. [1:54:05, 1:54:09]: Alrighty. Uh what is next? We have new business. [1:54:10, 1:54:23]: And council consideration to approve twenty twenty-three Worksman Compensation Policy with J. Smith Linair, an amount of one hundred and fifty seven thousand nine hundred and fourteen dollars presented by Miss Wheeler, please. [1:54:23, 1:54:25]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. [1:54:25, 1:54:34]: What you have before you is staff's recommendation to approve the renewal of the workers' compensation policy through January. [1:54:34, 1:54:37]: Um twenty twenty four. [1:54:37, 1:54:42]: Um this particular item is not open to competitive bidding. [1:54:42, 1:54:44]: Um during the hundred and day [1:54:44, 1:54:45]: day period. [1:54:46, 1:54:49]: We we adh try to adhere to by waiting on numbers. [1:54:50, 1:54:53]: With the additions of the police department staff. [1:54:53, 1:54:55]: And the twenty twenty three payrolls. [1:54:56, 1:54:57]: Um in the budget. [1:54:58, 1:54:59]: That has just been approved. [1:55:00, 1:55:02]: So once these numbers were added to the [1:55:03, 1:55:04]: uh proposal [1:55:04, 1:55:10]: that we received we received approximately a twenty percent reduction in our premium rate. [1:55:10, 1:55:12]: And this will allow us to see. [1:55:12, 1:55:15]: And hopefully our we can maintain. [1:55:15, 1:55:19]: the reduction um going into twenty twenty four. [1:55:20, 1:55:23]: Okay. Council, any questions for Miss Wheeler? Yes. [1:55:23, 1:55:37]: Go right up please, sir. Ms. Wheeler, so this amount, the twenty percent reduction has lowered from the last budgeted item for this, is what you're saying. We've got a lower from one hundred and seventy-nine thousand um to this year it'll be a hundred and fifty-seven thousand. [1:55:37, 1:55:47]: Um if we accept the one thousand dollar deductible, um it could go even lower um to tw one hundred and fifty three thousand if we [1:55:48, 1:55:54]: elected to do the twenty five hundred deductible. But I wanted to stay within a one thousand dollar deductible. [1:55:55, 1:56:15]: Mayor. Yes, sir. If there's no more questions from council, I'd like for us to approve the compensation policy with J. Smith Lanier in the amount of well$157,914. Motion made, is there a second? A second. Ms. Barber, I mean Ms. Gantt, I'm sorry. You spoke up. Mr. Gantt, I'm sorry. Um all in favor, please indicate. [1:56:16, 1:56:18]: Fantastic, unanimous decision. Fantastic. Good deal. [1:56:18, 1:56:25]: Okay, what we have next is council consideration to appoint several members of the Planning Commission, Youth Council Advisory, and the Main Street Advisory Board. [1:56:25, 1:56:45]: I just wanna make a recommendation that we really discuss the second session and then come back out from the second session and do this if the council would like to do that, uh these positions for these individuals. And we have to have a set we're gonna have to have a second session tonight for some other things anyway, but I was wanna make this recommendation if the council is willing to do this to have this discussion about these positions. [1:56:45, 1:56:53]: Okay, is that good? Can we do that? Yes. Okay, thank you very much. Then we'll we'll move on uh here to the upcoming meetings and announcements. [1:56:54, 1:57:14]: Council meeting will be held in the council uh city chamber meeting dates, location, and times are subject to a change. Please visit the city's website, WWW City of Stockbridge.com for the meeting invitation link. Facebook page or contact city hall offices 770-389-7900 for updates. City Council meeting second Monday. [1:57:14, 1:57:34]: Of each month, City Hall Council Chambers, January 9th. U Council meeting 6:30, second Monday of each month, City Hall Levi meeting rooms at January 9th as well. Downtown Development Authority meeting, 6 p.m. By way of Zoom, it's a special day here, January 10th, which is a Tuesday. Citywide Development Authority meeting, 6 p.m. City Hall [1:57:34, 1:57:54]: Hall Levi Meeting Room second Tuesday of each month, which should be January 10th in this case. Main Street Advisory Board meeting second Friday of each month at 9 a.m. City Hall Levi Meeting Room January 13th. Youth Council Advisory Committee meeting 6:30 p.m. third Tuesday of each month. Levi Meeting Room City Hall January 17th. [1:57:54, 1:58:07]: The Planning Commission meeting for Thursday at 6.30 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers January 26th. City Council Work Session meeting Tuesday, 6 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers, January 31st. [1:58:09, 1:58:29]: And we have a continued salute to veterans. Please forward your pictures of veterans, including name, branch, ranks, years of service as Premier Mayor Pro Tem. Uh presents a special tribute to our local veterans. Pictures should be submitted to Roslyn Walls at R. Rawls at City of Stockbridge-G A dot G-O-V. And thank you for your service. [1:58:29, 1:58:49]: Please join Councilman Alexander for the annual Martin Luther King Jr. Service Project on Saturday, January 14th, the Hudson Bridge Road in I-75. Says here parking at Walmart from 10 a.m. to 12 noon. This will occur. And please join Councilman Blount for Bingo Bash on Wednesday, January 18th, the Merle Manders Conference. [1:58:49, 1:59:09]: Center from 10 a.m. to noon. And there's an opportunity to meet the mayor and talk with me, Mayor Ford, on Tuesday, January 24th from 10 a.m. to noon. Please contact Roslin Rawls to schedule your appointment at 678-833-3348. Or you can call email her at R Rawls at City of Stockbridge-G. [1:59:09, 1:59:11]: Okay. [1:59:12, 1:59:32]: And for my additional comments, once again we're still in a pandemic, believe it or not. And what I've what I listen to here in the news and the data from the public health that uh that the uh COVID is so people still getting sick, obviously, people still being hospitalized. Unfortunately, some folks are passing, but also flu shots are uh I mean flu flu [1:59:32, 1:59:52]: Is up so get your flu shots as well. And the Henry County Health Department, of course, a 130 Henry Parkway in Madonna, are open at 9 a.m. to 11:30 a.m. or 1 p.m. to 2:30 p.m. to give you uh your vaccination uh for the COVID-19. And uh you can call and set appointment if [1:59:52, 2:00:08]: four four seven zero six six zero zero zero five. And of course boosters, please get them. Flu shots, of course, get that as well. Please keep yourself healthy in this aspect and this will help you keep you healthy and and uh in good condition. [2:00:08, 2:00:10]: Um [2:00:10, 2:00:30]: The new residents, there is a new resident guide that uh that we have developed, the city has developed, and it's been mailed out to all the new residents that are going to be effectively 1 January. And this new resident guide will uh give you an idea of uh what's happening in the city of Stockbridge. So you have some information in that new residence guide and [2:00:30, 2:00:50]: Involving the public works department, maintenance of the roads, right-of-way maintenance, the types of solid waste maintenance, how that how we do our business, how we service the public in this aspect. Also, we'll talk about stormwater maintenance, get you educated on that. Of course, identifying that we have three different parks. Clark Park, which is our largest, right next to our conference center, Merrill Manor. [2:00:50, 2:01:10]: Conference center there, Memorial Park and Gardner Park as well. And of course, this guy will tell you how to become apply for and become members of boards and committees, as well as the park pavilion rental process. [2:01:10, 2:01:30]: weather type of alerts. So if if we have a storm coming in, extremely cold weather, anything a tornado, hurricane, whatever that may be, this cold weather will help identify that to you so you can prepare to uh to be safe in this aspect. Also the guide will tell you how to stay connected with the city of Stockbridge if and also it lets you know in this aspect about [2:01:30, 2:01:50]: all the city events we have. There are some city events obviously we have. We talked about earlier today, council initiatives, which I'll also mention, and involvement and things that we do for our citizens in this area. What's not in the guide at this point that I know is information information about our police force, but obviously there'll be some additional information coming out about that as well. And we got outstanding police department. [2:01:50, 2:01:56]: It's been effective almost six months now doing phenomenal things in this aspect. [2:01:56, 2:02:02]: I want to give a um congratulation shout out to Miss Vanessa Holliday, our city clerk. [2:02:03, 2:02:23]: For a certification of being that is accomplished. She is now has what you call the International Institute of Municipal Clerks. She gets a designation of a certified municipal clerk, I believe on the back end of her name, says she's highly qualified. [2:02:23, 2:02:43]: She gets this extra three letters behind her name in the signature block, and she shows that she's a dedicated and professional and uh extremely handling handling her responsibilities properly, and has demonstrated uh all the skills necessary to be to help out a good, uh help out the government, our municipal government in this aspect, so congratulations to do. Um [2:02:42, 2:02:45]: That's a holiday. Outstanding. [2:02:50, 2:03:00]: You're more than welcome. And uh folks, as you realize, uh the happy happy holidays to you. Christmas. Have a good Christmas. Enjoy your family, friends, and loved ones. Be safe. [2:03:00, 2:03:20]: And uh don't eat too much, right? And uh or and that much don't have too much of that that uh eggnog that might be spiked with something, I suppose. You gotta be careful about that, right? And listen, we'll have a prosperous new year. Twenty twenty-three is gonna be a great year for citizens of Stockbridge and and we the council and are gonna do great things for you and and we'll continue. [2:03:20, 2:03:40]: have a listener for you in this aspect to make sure that we do the best we can to make your lives and your environment and your live your your your conditions here in the city as best as possible. So continue to keep the faith with us as we continue to do what we can, the best we can for our citizens. So 2023 is going to be a very prosperous year for us all. [2:03:40, 2:03:50]: On that note, uh council, uh I need a motion to go to the second session, please. So moved. So moved. Uh it's kind of going for litigation, personnel, and real estate issues, please. [2:03:50, 2:03:52]: Some of them. Okay. Is there a second? [2:03:52, 2:03:55]: A second. Uh Ms. Scant second off all in favor, please indicate. [2:03:56, 2:03:58]: Thank you very much. Ladies and gentlemen, we'll be back. [2:03:59, 2:03:59]: Uh. [2:04:02, 2:04:06]: Aisha Watson Hawk Hawkins. [2:04:07, 2:04:10]: Second. Uh Mr Blount, second then. All in favor, please indicate. [2:04:11, 2:04:12]: All opposed. [2:04:14, 2:04:25]: You you you Miss Barber uh uh agree? Okay, so it's a unanimous decision on that. Uh Planning Commission, Miss Gamp, please. Mayor Ford, I move that we appoint David Plashon. [2:04:26, 2:04:32]: Harold Thibodeau and Kathleen Nelson. Okay. Is there a second to that motion? Second. Mr. How's that second? All in favor, please indicate. [2:04:34, 2:04:35]: All pose. [2:04:36, 2:04:37]: Well uh [2:04:37, 2:04:40]: Okay, all f all in favor. Make sure I got the count. All favor? [2:04:40, 2:04:42]: Okay, all pose. Sustain. [2:04:42, 2:04:43]: Abstain. [2:04:43, 2:04:44]: Miss Barber. [2:04:45, 2:04:46]: What you vault? [2:04:47, 2:05:06]: You abstained? She approved. She approved. Okay. All right, so it's a unanimous decision. Okay. Economic director. Mr. Alexander, please. Yes, I wish to nominate the Mr. Kimberly Alons for the position of Economic Development Director for the City of Stockbridge. I second. Okay, it's been seconded by Miss Kant. All in favor, please indicate. [2:05:08, 2:05:20]: Oh okay is the United States now standing. Okay. And um actually Mr. Blount, IT Director, sir, please. Mayor elect the motion to bring forward the approval for IT director, Mr. Rousse. [2:05:21, 2:05:26]: Uh Pattel. Okay, is there a second? I second. Ms. Can't second then. All in favor, I'm i all in favor, please indicate. [2:05:27, 2:05:29]: Okay, all polls. [2:05:29, 2:05:30]: Abstain. [2:05:31, 2:05:39]: That's three. So it's three zero two. Motion passed. Okay, on that note, uh council need a motion to adjourn the meeting. [2:05:39, 2:05:50]: So moved. Okay. Uh Miss Scott to m uh Mr. Blount, right? And all fair please indicate. Okay. Thank you. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. That's right, Merry Christmas. Happy holidays. [2:05:57, 2:05:59]: Ah oui.

--- title: Regular Council Meetings date: 2022-12-12 source: 2022-12-12_Regular_Council_Meetings.wav --- [0:06:24, 0:06:27]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, uh please uh take your seats. [0:06:28, 0:06:32]: Yeah, six oh one. And so Madam Clerk, you are ready to go? [0:06:32, 0:06:39]: All right, good deal. Ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to open up our council meeting for December Monday, December uh twelfth. [0:06:40, 0:06:43]: Six PM or six oh one. Okay, called me in order. [0:06:43, 0:06:48]: And on that note, Pastor Evans, sir, if you can come forward and give us invocation, please. [0:06:50, 0:06:51]: If you can, please stand. [0:07:00, 0:07:20]: Your Father God who comes and degrees as stewards of all that should have blessed us. But we ask that you have the Holy Spirit guide us as we move through the agenda tonight and that the core of the air should have us to be the such Christ name. Amen. Amen. We do a pledge of allegiance. A pledge of allegiance to the flag, the United States of America. [0:07:20, 0:07:26]: and to the republic for which it stands one nation, under God, individual, with liberty and justice for all. [0:07:27, 0:07:28]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:07:42, 0:07:48]: Mayor Ford? Present. Mayor Pro Tem Thomas. Present. Councilman Alexander. [0:07:50, 0:07:55]: At the record reflect, Councilman Alexander is not in attendance. Councilwoman Barber. Present. [0:07:56, 0:08:00]: Councilman Blount. Councilwoman Gantt. [0:08:01, 0:08:14]: Let the record reflect Councilwoman Gantt is not in attendance. Mayor Ford, you have a quorum. Thank you, Madam Clerk. I appreciate that. Uh Mayor Pro Tem, I believe you have a a motion to uh to actually amend the agenda for this evening. [0:08:15, 0:08:24]: Yes, uh Mayor and Council. I have two motions to amend the agenda. Uh the first motion is to [0:08:24, 0:08:26]: Amend the agenda to add [0:08:27, 0:08:30]: uh an item seventeen [0:08:31, 0:08:32]: Licensing [0:08:32, 0:08:34]: agreement for parking [0:08:35, 0:08:38]: And agenda item eighteen. [0:08:39, 0:08:54]: contract extension for GFL sanitation services. Uh um two motions to add to the agenda, uh agenda items 17 and 18. Service item to the motion. [0:08:58, 0:09:01]: Second. Uh Mr Blount, second that. All in favor, please indicate. [0:09:03, 0:09:07]: Okay, it's announced. Appreciate that. Thank you, Council. Now need a motion to adopt the overall agenda, please. [0:09:08, 0:09:14]: Mayor Ford? Yes sir. So moved. Okay, is there a second? Second. Okay, Mr uh Alexander second down. Okay. All in favor, please indicate. [0:09:15, 0:09:21]: Thank you very much, Council. Okay. Adoption of the minutes. Uh before you council, you have draft minutes for a special call meeting. [0:09:22, 0:09:25]: October third uh October third of twenty twenty two. [0:09:26, 0:09:38]: Draft minutes for the council meeting October tenth of twenty twenty two and also the draft minutes for the work session october twenty fifth of twenty twenty two. Unless there are any changes and if there are not any changes on that one I need a motion to accept these minutes, please. [0:09:40, 0:09:46]: Uh Mr. Blount so moved that. Is there a second? Ms. Barber second that all in favor please indicate. Thank you, unanimous decision. Appreciate that. [0:09:47, 0:09:47]: Um [0:09:47, 0:09:56]: Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments at all? We do, Mayor. We have one public comment. Okay. Please come forward. And name and address, please, sir. [0:09:57, 0:09:58]: Once you get to the poltergeist. [0:10:02, 0:10:22]: My name is Maestro Evans. I live at 3322 Clemens Road in Stockbridge. My comment is that is that the city city annexation passed on November the 8th, and to my understanding that is to take place on January the first, uh that those annex annexed into the city will become actual citizens on January the first. [0:10:22, 0:10:30]: So my concern is that there has been no communications to these new citizens about what the plan is and what that means. [0:10:30, 0:10:45]: So to me that says there's no transition plan, nor has there been any communication plan. So January the first is less than two weeks away. So for those of us who would be new citizens of the city of Stockbridge, we would, you know, like to know what does that mean come January first. [0:10:46, 0:11:01]: All right, so we'll be able to identify that. I believe through the c uh through actual uh conversation during the course of the evening, we'll be able to address that. And actually the I would say the city manager's working on that specific plan and you're absolutely right, there's coming before you know it. But we'll be handling that, sir. Thank you. Appreciate it. [0:11:05, 0:11:13]: All right, so if there's no other public comments, um and may don't do that please, uh city manager, or that request. Make sure we do that. Okay, thank you, sir. [0:11:13, 0:11:15]: Uh presentation. [0:11:15, 0:11:18]: Presentation of open government project presented by Mr. Gardner. [0:11:19, 0:11:21]: John Wiggins and Price Perskinski. [0:11:22, 0:11:23]: Did I get it close? [0:11:24, 0:11:31]: Uh yes you were close, uh Mayor Ford. All right, thank you very much. Appreciate that. No problem, it's Przezinski if uh if you want to pronounce it again. [0:11:31, 0:11:35]: Perszynski? Correct. All right. Yeah, Polish. Okay, no problem. Yeah. [0:11:35, 0:11:36]: No problem at all. [0:11:37, 0:11:38]: Well, please gentlemen. [0:11:40, 0:11:41]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. [0:11:42, 0:12:02]: What we have uh tonight is a presentation um from OpenGov. They're gonna show you a platform that's gonna uh be consistent on what the mayor, I mean not the mayor, but what the city manager and I have been discussing with uh you guys about uh an open platform for transparency and reporting on uh [0:12:02, 0:12:04]: uh the government activities uh [0:12:05, 0:12:14]: Right now we what we're gonna do is we're gonna link up with Zoom and have the presentation uh presented uh with um presentation. [0:12:14, 0:12:15]: And [0:12:18, 0:12:21]: Just give us a few a few seconds here. [0:12:25, 0:12:26]: Okay, we're ready to go. [0:12:29, 0:12:30]: Sweet. Thank you, John. [0:12:30, 0:12:45]: First I would say thank you, uh, Mayor Ford and the rest of the council members for allowing us to present here today, as well as John and Fred for allowing us to be here and the opportunity to speak with them over the last several months as we evaluated OpenGov's budgeting and planning software. Um [0:12:45, 0:12:58]: On today council meeting we have myself, Bryce Brasinski, as the accounting executive for the state of Georgia, as well as I'll let him introduce himself, Scott Koble, our director of product. So Scott, if you want to introduce yourself. [0:12:59, 0:13:16]: Yeah, good evening everyone. Appreciate the time tonight. I hope I'm coming in clear. I'm calling in from Washington, D.C. I've been with OpenGov about five years now, but prior to that, I spent 20 years in government, most recently as budget manager for Montgomery County Mountains. So Bryce, I'll turn it back to you. [0:13:17, 0:13:19]: Thanks, Scott. If you could go to the next slide, please. [0:13:24, 0:13:44]: So OpenGov was founded on the idea that local governments like the city of Stockbridge were being underserved by either tyrant software companies or mottom and pop shops, not giving you all the cloud-based solutions to be confident and be able to present information to its citizens to understand what's going on financially and operationally. And the way we're able to do that, Scott, if you can go to the the next. [0:13:44, 0:13:45]: Next slide, please. [0:13:47, 0:14:02]: Is folks like Scott and also over five hundred plus years of combined government experience we have on the OpenGov staff. So if there is an issue, there is something that need to be done in a quickly timely manner, OpenGov can fix it and be an extension of Stockbridge's staff. [0:14:06, 0:14:15]: Now do you want to point out we have multiple customers across the state of Georgia, the closest one being the city of Griffin and a few others across the state with our most recent coming on. [0:14:16, 0:14:17]: Bless you. [0:14:18, 0:14:35]: No problem. Most recent coming on would be Atlanta Public Schools and also Glenn County down near Jekyll Island in Saint Simons. Um so over twenty Georgia customers as you can see on the screen. And we what we want to do is reduce reporting time as well as time spent with budgeting with the departments and John. So next slide, please, Scott. [0:14:38, 0:14:58]: What we'll be speaking about here today is our budgeting and planning, and as it pushes through our reporting and transparency platform. Um, these are all the suites that OpenGov offers here today. I do want to point out, uh uh, Councilwoman Barber, that we do have a full procurement solution that I think you might be interested in. I'd love to send you some information on that. And Councilman Blount, we do have a female information. [0:14:58, 0:15:18]: Information for asset management. So we'd love to send you some information on that as well. But we will be talking about budgeting and planning and how we can help the city of Stockbridge push uh reporting transparency to its citizens so that they understand what's going on financially and also operationally, but also allow the citizens to take some time to interact with. [0:15:18, 0:15:27]: With what's going on within the city. So with that, I want to pass it over to Scott to give an executive overview of the budgeting and planning solution for OpenGov. [0:15:29, 0:15:49]: Perfect. Thanks, Bryce. And uh I'll have Bryce uh interrupt me if you have any questions, just relay them back to me. Um so what we'll go over tonight, um we'll look at from end to end how we can help Stockbridge do your entire budgeting process. And we're starting with the end in mind. So how we can actually help with your communication, your budget book, any communication. [0:15:49, 0:16:01]: you'll have out to the community to your residents. I'll walk you through behind the scenes how this is put together. So how you can use us for reporting dashboards, how you can use this obviously to put your operating budget together. [0:16:01, 0:16:03]: Your personnel planning. [0:16:03, 0:16:23]: your capital budget and then we'll kind of finish up where we started here uh with the end in mind. So uh Bryce and I have worked on this and we put basically an example of what your budget book could look like in open gov. And a couple things to note on this. This is an interactive version that's online. So it's mobile friendly. You can translate it into thousands of [0:16:23, 0:16:43]: different languages. It's interactive. We can have charts, maps, graphs, anything that you want in your budget book, we can do. And one of the goals of most governments we work with is winning, it's called the GFOA Distinguished Budget Award. We can ensure that and also something that's very important to all of our customers, which is accessibility. [0:16:43, 0:17:03]: So this is American Disability Act compliant. I found some videos I put in here from your downtown vision RSV plan to show you kind of where you could go with this. And then the other area that we look at a lot with governments is not just pushing information out to the public, but getting feedback from your residents. [0:17:03, 0:17:12]: So we can have interaction then two-way interaction. So if you had a big project you're working on or just want the overall opinion of the public, we can help you with that as well. [0:17:13, 0:17:29]: The look and feel and everything we did here, I took the branding from your website, but we can tailor this presentation to anything you want. We have governments that do their entire council presentations in this online with an accompanying PDF. So this does print out for anybody that wants a paper copy of it. [0:17:30, 0:17:50]: To kind of show you the versatility of how we do our budget books, we do a lot of different things with governments. Um, this is a city I work with in Rochester that also uses us on their strategic plan. So your communication is unlimited with OpenGov. It's not just fixed to budget books. Governments use this for all types of communication around. [0:17:50, 0:18:01]: Big projects are working on, strategic plans, budget books, anything that you want to communicate, you can communicate outwards. Bryce, I'll pause there briefly to see if there's any questions and then I'll move on. [0:18:04, 0:18:08]: No questions, sir, thus far. Go ahead please. Perfect. Thank you. [0:18:09, 0:18:29]: Um, so let's get into a little bit how this is put together. So this is an example of what a city council dashboard would look like for one of our customers. And in essence, what we'll do is we'll tap into a government's financial system so we can bring in all the financial data. In your case, it would come from ENCODE. And that's usually on a nightly basis. So from a council perspective. [0:18:28, 0:18:38]: You can get updates on the data as frequently as you want. Usually, again, it is a nightly basis. But I think one of the things that Bryce and I, when we work with the government, [0:18:38, 0:18:39]: Really uh [0:18:40, 0:19:00]: really push out is that you can use this across the board, right? It doesn't just have to be for finance and budget or council. And it doesn't have to be just constrained to financial data. So I know performance is one of the goals of this project. And we can bring data from any source that you have. So financial data, non-financial data, performance data. And I think the other thing is [0:19:00, 0:19:20]: As we kind of grow with a government, they'll also expand with us and start rolling dashboards out to all users of a government, not just contained within finance or budget. So what we're really doing here is increasing internal transparency. We saw what the public transparency looks like from the start there, but this is absolutely helping with your departments. [0:19:20, 0:19:22]: in the communication that they have. [0:19:23, 0:19:43]: One of the other things I think, and I'll pause right after this, Bryce, that's really key with OpenGov is ease of use. So we have a goal of really taking that lift off of IT and putting the tool in the end user's hands. So it's all point and click, drag and drop. There's no coding in our software whatsoever. Um, and our end users are the ones building these after. [0:19:43, 0:19:50]: We'll set you up with all of this, but you can maintain this, build your own dashboards, your own reports, your own communication. [0:19:53, 0:20:13]: One last note on that. So the dashboards are very nice. And from a council member's perspective, you know, you do get a nice 10,000 foot view of your both financial health and non-financial health. But if you want to dive into any of the details, if you click on any of these tiles, it will take you into a report. And this again, just like the dashboards, is all point and click drag. [0:20:13, 0:20:22]: and drop. There's no coding. So our end users can go down, they can drill down on the chart or the graph or these filters and really drill down into the data that they want to see. [0:20:23, 0:20:43]: The nice thing for you know the budget team too, they can actually send a snapshot of the data to a particular department. So let's say you want to give police a snapshot of the of their overtime, you can give them that. Or you want to look at what's going on in paving. You can just send that to the people that are working on the paving projects. And then the other component. [0:20:43, 0:20:47]: of this, which is the financial or or sorry, the transparent end. [0:20:47, 0:21:04]: you can push this out to the public. So Stockbridge will have full control of what the public sees, if it's summary level data, financial, non-financial, but the same charts and graphs here are the same ones that would populate your budget book, which at in the end of the day saves a lot of work putting the uh the budget book together. [0:21:06, 0:21:08]: Bryce, I'll pause there real quick again on reporting. [0:21:09, 0:21:21]: So otherwise w if I got this correct, this is a the management tool to make things flow information flow a little better with from staff to staff, or from us and staff and for the public itself, I in a sense. So we're looking at, right? [0:21:22, 0:21:38]: Uh yes, Mayor Ford, that is correct. As well uh uh it does have the ability to Stockbridge to wanna push the information it needs to push, right? As well as all to choose what information you choose to hold from uh the public. So it's it's gonna be in the hands of Stockbridge to push this information, correct? All right. [0:21:39, 0:21:39]: Uh thank you. [0:21:40, 0:21:42]: No problem. Any other questions for the council? [0:21:44, 0:21:49]: I'd like to see how this tool is used with the procurement process. [0:21:50, 0:21:52]: Are you speaking to the procurement suite itself? Yes. [0:21:52, 0:22:05]: Yes, absolutely. Uh right now we don't have the time for presenting the whole procurement solution and uh that would be a different uh product expert. But I would be happy to schedule some time with you and the procurement team and show you that solution. That's not a problem. [0:22:08, 0:22:12]: Okay, I guess you can continue on, sir. Yep. Scott, you can continue. [0:22:13, 0:22:33]: Continue. Okay. Thanks, Bryce. Um, so then obviously there's a budget component of this, and this is what our budget solution does. And it's really designed to get a government from the beginning of their budget lifecycle to the end. So most governments will go through, you know, a department submission phase of the budget where the departments are putting in the request. They'll go through a recommended [0:22:33, 0:22:38]: or proposed budget through like the mayor or executive branch and then they'll have a final adoptive budget through council. [0:22:39, 0:22:53]: Um, our solution is designed to get a government through its entire budget lifecycle, including any scenario planning you need to do. If you have to do enhancements to the budget, target reductions, as council's approving the budget, you can have a budget just for that. [0:22:54, 0:23:11]: Couple things, I won't go into too much of the details here, but in the we call them proposals for putting the budget together, you can have as many proposals as you want. And each proposal itself can have um what we call worksheets, but this is in essence where the the budget is put together. [0:23:13, 0:23:33]: In the worksheets, one thing I wanted to highlight for council, and Bryce had had mentioned this uh to me, we can tie to any strategic or goals or initiatives that the city has. So a lot of governments use this. If you don't want to look at the budget just through traditional, like department and fund, and we can absolutely do that. But if you wanted to look at stock bridges, you [0:23:33, 0:23:45]: you know, health, like a healthy community, or I had one called Safe and Secure Community that our county executive had. This will give you a little bit different lens to look at the budget, actually ties into the strategic plan very nicely. [0:23:45, 0:24:05]: So, this is kind of the inside guts of the budget tool, again, used year-round by our the governments we work with. The biggest component of every government's budget that we work with is their personnel costs. And I know it's the same in StockRidge. I think it's roughly 70 to 80% of your entire operating budget. What we do with that, we call it our workforce model. [0:24:05, 0:24:25]: Module. And in essence, we set up all of the, we bring in the whole position list of a city or county that we work with. And then we set up all the benefits that you pay your employees in terms of we call them cost elements internally, but this gives you a down to the penny cost of every employee. And it gives you that macro picture as well. So you can see the entire personnel cost. [0:24:25, 0:24:36]: you have. I know we have a stat online and Bryce has heard me say this a million times, but we actually find 1% of every government's budget they're over budgeting on average in health in in [0:24:37, 0:24:45]: Personnel costs in some form. Usually it's healthcare or could be vacant positions or colas, but we're usually fine some much some dollars there. [0:24:46, 0:25:06]: The nice thing with this, as the team's putting the budget together, they can also run scenarios. So if they want to see what a 2% increase looks like or a 2% reduction, they can run as many workforce plans as they want. And then they the other end of the spectrum, they can also do long-term forecasting on the personnel. So this is an example from city of Minneapolis. [0:25:05, 0:25:16]: And when I say we find 1% of every government's budget, we actually found$7 million they were over budgeting in healthcare last year. Now, obviously, this is a bigger government. They had a$500 million. [0:25:16, 0:25:19]: budget, but seven million dollars is quite a bit of money. [0:25:20, 0:25:40]: So the personnel piece obviously and companies, the operating budget. The only other thing I would say on long-term planning, and this is really key for growing communities like Stockbridge, is that we can do your cap entire capital improvement plan. And so when you're doing your long-term planning, you're looking at your your investments into your capital infrastructure. [0:25:40, 0:26:00]: You can plan that out up to 36 years if you want to. But I think the real benefit here is you're seeing where your biggest chunk of your operating budget is going to be and your personnel cost over the next five to 10 years. Along with that, that's going to help you make decisions, especially for council, on where uh your capital investments can go so you don't hit things like debt service too hard. [0:26:01, 0:26:08]: So that's kind of the budget tool in a in a high level. Bryce, again, I'll pause here to see if there's any feedback from the group. [0:26:10, 0:26:12]: Anybody? Any questions or thoughts? [0:26:14, 0:26:14]: All right. [0:26:15, 0:26:18]: No, continue on please. Scott. [0:26:18, 0:26:22]: Okay. Um so we're gonna wrap up here where I started. [0:26:23, 0:26:43]: And this is to the the point of you can use us for any type of communication. So we have literally thousands of templates to help with council uh reports, monthly reports, quarterly analysis, budget books, strategic plans like this Vision Zero is one from the mayor of Tampa, where she wanted to reduce fatalities in. [0:26:43, 0:27:03]: Pedestrian crashes. So really unlimited on how you can use us. We have templates. We've already built one actually with your branding and everything you can use. But anyway, the council would want to communicate, any of the departments within Stockbridge. Obviously, finance and budget will use us heavily, but we do promote using this across an entire government, not just [0:27:03, 0:27:07]: just focused in again a budget or finance office. [0:27:08, 0:27:19]: So Bryce, I will pause there. That's really the high level overview. I'm definitely here for more questions if there's anything else. And I don't know if you or John had anything else to add uh before I stop the share here. [0:27:20, 0:27:37]: Uh no Scott, I have nothing to add. Just want to open up questions uh to the councilman. Well Terry, thank you for the presentation. But I'm kinda curious from Mr. Wiggins and Mr uh Gardiner, if you can come to the mic please, what your gentleman's thoughts are. You brought this presentation before the council. So what do you what do you what what are your thoughts about this this aspect? [0:27:39, 0:27:41]: Well, I'll let Freya go first. [0:27:41, 0:27:41]: Sure. [0:27:42, 0:28:02]: Good evening, Mayor Council. Evening. Um one of the things I'd mentioned to you guys when I first got here was um being in a position to put some software into play that would allow for us to be able to show outward facing to the public what we do, how we do, and when we're doing. Um this is that platform that would allow for us to be able to do that. [0:28:02, 0:28:22]: And so it would be able to give not just you but the regular citizens access to what's going on operationally within the city from a finance um by department all the way through the city government what's going on, what we're doing. Um so this is part of transparency and that outward facing government. But also as we finish up. [0:28:22, 0:28:42]: with our strategic plan, being able to see exactly how we're achieving our goals and objectives under our strategic plans and have that also outfacing with dashboards that illustrate exactly where we are through the process. So this is an informational tool that shares with you, but also the public at heart on what we're doing in city government. [0:28:42, 0:29:02]: Okay. Thank you, sir. John, do you have any additional comments? Yeah, and this will and and this will help out with the um monthly reporting. It also would uh you know i it'd be at at your disposal, right at your fingertips. You can always uh uh pull it up and you'll be able to see what you wanna see. Uh [0:29:02, 0:29:20]: uh and you can pull down whatever reports you need to pull down for budgeting and finance. We also um have uh reached out to uh community development department. Uh they've already had conversations with BRECA. Uh this is this is something that they have a lot of uh that deals with permitting. [0:29:21, 0:29:23]: So that will help out also uh [0:29:23, 0:29:43]: We after that we're gonna uh uh mentioned with uh Councilwoman Barber with procurement, we're gonna uh see what that looks like for us, as well as uh also has asset management. So there's some good things. Uh like I said, uh uh Fred and I, Fred first guy has just one first thing. [0:29:43, 0:30:03]: we talked about is being able to get this type of reporting and and to be able to show this transparency of what we're doing all the time. May stand by what's up. Maybe I missed something here, but uh is what's is there a monthly or yearly cost to this? I mean what's what's the yeah there's a cost okay so what this this this this this particular [0:30:03, 0:30:23]: Um well m I I'll let Bryce come up and but as far as the the costs, it's gonna be like a initial uh fifty one thousand and then after that it's going to a like a three year uh this is also a state contract. Okay. So this is this is something that's already in [0:30:23, 0:30:38]: And and um we can all we can we can jump on this right here right away because of the state contract. The monthly and then from now the three years will be annually of forty some thousand. Okay. So Rice, you gonna add something to that? [0:30:38, 0:30:58]: Yeah, I just wanted to clarify. Uh yeah, the uh the initial it's a three-year term um for the OpenGov contract, and it was forty thousand seven hundred and five dollars and fifty-seven cents for the first year, and then fifty-one thousand uh five hundred and eighty-three and thirty-seven cents for the professional services to get the city of Stockbridge trained up and [0:30:58, 0:31:03]: running and also create the online budget book which was presented at the beginning of uh the presentation. [0:31:04, 0:31:06]: Thank you. Mr. Blount, please. [0:31:07, 0:31:11]: Yeah, thank you. Thank you for the presentation also, Mr. Bryce. Um [0:31:13, 0:31:16]: So with a system like this [0:31:16, 0:31:25]: Is this something that you're gonna be putting in data that's given to you, or is that something that that you're tapping into that once data is [0:31:25, 0:31:45]: compile here it automatically goes in. How does it how is it actually gonna work? Yeah. I'm gonna answer that as best I can. Councilman uh Blount looks like uh Scott Colb had been disconnected. Um but we're system agnostic with your Tyler ENCODE uh ERP or your financials. So we're allowed to pull information every night over from your financials or whichever [0:31:45, 0:31:59]: other operational reporting platforms you need to push through our reporting transparency platform. And that data will be filtered through the reporting transparency to push to the public with the consent of the Stockbridge members and team members. [0:32:00, 0:32:08]: So when you say pool, so that means that data had to be has to be put in and then it's almost uh electronically transcribing it over to [0:32:09, 0:32:12]: The program that you're gonna put in place. [0:32:12, 0:32:14]: That would now be open for the public. [0:32:15, 0:32:23]: Correct, uh, in a sense. So the data that would be pulled over, y'all can choose what information you want to push to the public. That is correct. [0:32:24, 0:32:31]: What is d this is for John w Mr. Wiggins. What is it what he's saying that we should be doing now anyway? [0:32:32, 0:32:35]: Well you're saying what we should be doing. I'm just saying what is it that [0:32:36, 0:32:56]: Um see this is this is gonna pull from the ENCODE that we already have and it's basically just gonna uh this platform is just basically gonna promote uh the viewing of what we have in ENCODE into uh their platform where you'll be able to see the the graphs to be able to see uh [0:32:56, 0:33:15]: some of the uh uh uh uh uh the expense and and the and the revenue as far as uh being able to uh see the calculation and and other things uh to that nature. But it's basically gonna be just mirror what the ENCODE is is what we have an ENCODE it's just gonna uh display that. [0:33:15, 0:33:35]: Well then it goes back to my question. It's h hold on, Mr. Garner. Let me talk let me let me just let me get him to explain this to me, if you don't mind, sir. I'm saying versus what the citizens should be able to see now with transparency, what is the difference between us getting another entity? [0:33:35, 0:33:35]: Okay. [0:33:36, 0:33:45]: that we would now have the same information but now going through another uh cycle to be looked at when we should be doing that now. [0:33:48, 0:33:58]: Councilmember Blount, ENCODE doesn't allow for us to be able to push this information the way that open gov does. That's why a lot of communities are going in this format. [0:33:58, 0:34:01]: Not only just open gov, open gov is one platform. [0:34:01, 0:34:05]: But mister Will where my grandmama could understand it for my [0:34:06, 0:34:08]: Our system doesn't allow for that. [0:34:08, 0:34:11]: So this makes it easier for not for just council. [0:34:12, 0:34:32]: But the regular citizen who might not have financial acumen to be able to look at this and say, Oh, okay, so they're spending this or they budgeted this, they've spent that, that percent of this is out here. But not only just that, but it gives a percentage of it gives you all the information in a graphical format, easy to read. Our current system doesn't do that. Is there another city in [0:34:31, 0:34:33]: In Henry County using this? [0:34:34, 0:34:36]: No sir, we will be the first. [0:34:37, 0:34:39]: Then it goes back to my question because [0:34:39, 0:34:59]: Then why aren't we putting something online that a resident citizen can sit can just look at versus bringing it a different entity to do it for us? I'm just trying to I'm just trying to fig just I'm just trying to figure all this out because so this if a regular citizen can't go to our website and look at our financials, how is this gonna make [0:34:59, 0:35:00]: Yeah. [0:35:02, 0:35:10]: It's like the internet. Before you couldn't communicate with somebody in China without picking up the phone. Now you can actually do it online. It's it's a different system. [0:35:11, 0:35:29]: Right, that we're using that allow for them to be able to convert our information, right? That we see it in numbers and all of that stuff and put it in a more usable, user friendly format for just a regular Joe Blow citizen to understand. If we had to do that. [0:35:29, 0:35:33]: We would have to have more manpower here to be able to do perform those tasks. [0:35:33, 0:35:35]: Right. This allowed for us to be able to have [0:35:36, 0:35:54]: a software that works in conjunction with our current platform to put our data in a more user-friendly manner and push it out for the public to understand. If we had to do that manually here, that means I gotta add another body or somebody to come in and do that or work for us to be able to do that. [0:35:55, 0:35:56]: Um [0:35:56, 0:36:04]: We don't have it here. That's why you see in your platform, you see City of Roswell and other cities that have gone to this platform because even as [0:36:04, 0:36:07]: They are a little bit more advanced than we are. [0:36:07, 0:36:14]: They see the need f to utilize such software to be able to put information out there for their regular citizens to understand, but not just them for you guys. [0:36:14, 0:36:16]: But it also helps [0:36:17, 0:36:27]: Who's who's using this format? In your in your packet, I think they showed the city of Roswell, City of Griffin, Rockdale County, City of Atlanta. Um [0:36:27, 0:36:37]: There's a narrative of communities, I think they were listed in the program. So So we would need we would need something like this to show revenue expenditures in accounts. [0:36:39, 0:36:50]: No sir. If we use ENCO, what I would have to do is download it, print it out, and put it in the PDF form. [0:36:50, 0:36:50]: And [0:36:51, 0:36:53]: Send it to the clerk and let her put it online. [0:36:53, 0:36:56]: This this this particular uh system here. [0:36:57, 0:37:00]: Every night it's gonna update and then [0:37:00, 0:37:03]: Anytime anybody wants to go online to see [0:37:03, 0:37:07]: And they all they gotta do is pull up this open glue that says stop bridge. [0:37:07, 0:37:10]: And you'll see the information right there all the time. [0:37:10, 0:37:16]: Income just just does not and I and I get that what I'm saying, I guess I'm missing something because [0:37:16, 0:37:20]: They're only going to put in a system what you give them to put in there. [0:37:22, 0:37:24]: So I'm just trying I'm I I'm just trying to make [0:37:25, 0:37:32]: Make it make sense to me. If they're gonna only put in the system what we give them to put in there, why don't we have a system we can just put it in ourselves? [0:37:33, 0:37:49]: Like like every other city in this every other city in Henry County is doing. But no there's no city in Henry County that's doing this, Mr. Bull. They're not doing what he's doing. But but you're able to go into n and w and and and see their financials. Not the way this will be displayed. [0:37:50, 0:38:01]: Um Henry County I think is using a different software pocket um than OpenGov, but outside of that, no other city that I know of in Henry County is utilizing. Henry County's about. [0:38:01, 0:38:20]: Yeah. Uh uh coun uh Councilman Blind, I do want to point out we are actually meeting with Henry County uh tomorrow, Bernita Campbell, the budget director over there to look at using the open gov solution as well. Um and also uh the former uh city manager of Stockbridge, uh Mr. Knight, currently using it at the city of Roswell. [0:38:20, 0:38:26]: Okay, and that's fine. Because let me let me explain about me real quick. When I sit here [0:38:27, 0:38:38]: I don't sit here to badger, I don't sit I only sit on edge. It's only to get the facts so I can make a sound decision when I raise my hand or don't raise my hand. That's how I operate. [0:38:38, 0:38:58]: Uh uh, Councilman Blount, uh I completely understand. So really the mission and vision of OpenGov is to take every platform department that is at the city of Stockbridge and streamline it through one reporting and transparency platform. So thinking of I understand you have some background with FEMA and asset management. If we were able to bring on budgeting and also if we should bring on [0:38:58, 0:39:18]: procurement and asset management, it'll go through the same reporting and transparency platform. And yes, to some degree the ENCODE solution can do reporting, but it's not very user friendly. Or let's say someone from an elder degree wants to go online and look at line items, it doesn't give them that ability and it's leading to causes of phone calls and to the the [0:39:18, 0:39:35]: So this is not only decreasing the amount of phone calls that'll be going to the different departments across the city of Stockbridge, make them more efficient, eighty five percent faster reporting on average, as well as it'll allow the community to give feedback of where they want information. [0:39:37, 0:39:43]: remarkable um you know procedure that they did to make that happen. I think, you know [0:39:44, 0:39:49]: And this is something that I wanted to do in my prior job, but obviously we we didn't get a chance to get around to it, but [0:39:49, 0:39:53]: an opportunity to to really transform the way we do business here. [0:39:53, 0:39:56]: Um and this is just one of the many tools that I hope. [0:39:57, 0:40:03]: that we can bring that'll start to put us in an era where you know we move away um [0:40:03, 0:40:19]: from the old way the paper to being a little bit more digital in the way we do our business and reflect what we're doing um to the public. And you you'll see a stronger app when that comes out.'Cause we'll have a lot of this stuff embedded in City's app when that when we get f when we get done. [0:40:20, 0:40:25]: I know today this is just a presentation. Are you also asking for approval? [0:40:25, 0:40:30]: Well we we will we will bring that back as a contract to you guys. Um [0:40:31, 0:40:40]: But right now it was just a presentation to kinda get you acclimated and what I'll do is I'll send some additional links to you guys so y'all could see what they've done for other communities around around the country. [0:40:41, 0:40:45]: Awesome. I support it. Um anything that um [0:40:45, 0:40:50]: actually is full transparency to the public. I support it. Thank you. [0:40:51, 0:40:52]: Go ahead, Member Fortin. [0:40:52, 0:40:53]: Thank you. [0:40:53, 0:40:55]: This is my last question. Um [0:40:56, 0:41:09]: What will the relationship be with um the IT department and speak to how this will uh benefit the uh Stockbridge Police Department? [0:41:10, 0:41:30]: Yeah, absolutely. Uh uh Councilman uh Thomas. So this is a no-code environment. What that means is unlike other governmental platforms on the market, there's not a heavy lift on the IT team. Uh if you look into your packets, I've included premium support free of charge for the city of [0:41:30, 0:41:48]: Stockbridge. Um so there will be no reliance on the IT team as well as for this the police department, uh, understanding that they can go in there, submit their own proposals, as well as push information of what's going on with the departments, understanding how that replicates back to council, as well as with its citizens. [0:41:51, 0:42:11]: Mr. Blount, stand by. Mr. Blount, stand by. Mr. Alexander, go ahead, please. Yeah, thank you. I appreciate that. Uh you know, my only concern is, you know, these systems are only as good as the information being input into kind of what Mr. Blount was saying, which is it's garbage in, garbage out. If we don't have those reports already, it's it [0:42:11, 0:42:25]: it is in a situation where we don't um we're not creating anything new. We're taking the information that we already have, which I'm sure maybe Mr. Wiggins will be in charge of and putting it out to the public. [0:42:25, 0:42:30]: But the public has inf uh access through open records to get any information that they want. [0:42:30, 0:42:32]: Now if [0:42:32, 0:42:36]: Somebody wants to request some of this information about [0:42:36, 0:42:42]: Two percent of the public is gonna take the time to go on there and build a report. Two percent. [0:42:42, 0:42:43]: So [0:42:43, 0:43:03]: Is it for us or is it for the public? Because the public is wanting to be spoon-fed information on social media, on the web, where they already are, instead of creating another outside system that they got to access. That's my system. I need to understand that from you because of the information he's putting in or the city. [0:43:03, 0:43:05]: [2586.9, 2606.9]: We already have it as Mr. Blount said, but in the in in essence, I need to understand how it's going to be more effective for us if it's not creating new information or information that we readily available to the public already through an open records request. Because I I see this stuff happen all the time. The new fancy gadget. [0:43:26, 0:43:30]: is amazing. It does everything, but it ain't [0:43:30, 0:43:39]: Worth crap unless somebody's putting their information in that's accurate. And as you said, you have not budgeted for somebody to. [0:43:39, 0:43:58]: Be dedicated to this process. That is what my problem is. Now, I understand you say it'll pull information over now, right? But for specialized reports that we want, we still gotta go on the system to create it or to get the specific information that we want, we still gotta go in there and build a report. [0:43:59, 0:44:16]: Now, I don't understand I I if if it was going to be a situation where again you had somebody dedicated to the staff to enter the information and then um come through with a solid proposal for what you're generating and the actual value to the public. [0:44:16, 0:44:19]: That would be great because if you throw all of this information online. [0:44:20, 0:44:22]: Two percent of the public is gonna use it. [0:44:24, 0:44:25]: Uh [0:44:25, 0:44:45]: Uh coun councilman Alexander, uh I I see your point there. I I would like to mention Scott Cobel who was on the previously call. We had brought this budget book uh to them and we we saw about a uh seven thousand percent increase in traffic to the online budget book just because the accessibility alone. Now to your statement um of garbage in and garbage out. [0:44:45, 0:45:05]: What we'll be doing for the first few months. And again, the city has premium support, which means you have the highest SLAs, which I personally live about 25 minutes from Stockbridge. I'm a Georgia native, went, went to Georgia State way back when, and I will be looking over the account, uh, pre-sale, post-sale, et cetera. Um, and we'll be aligning with your chart of [0:45:05, 0:45:25]: accounts. Now if the chart of accounts information is not correct over to OpenGov, we won't move forward with the process of doing training and online resources. So the information that is accessible to public, yes, but not easily readable, we'll be able to take those financials and operationals and make sure that they're [0:45:25, 0:45:27]: easily able to access it and read it correctly. [0:45:29, 0:45:42]: Do you have the information available to us now for these cities that are actually using this to see how many people in the public are actually taking advantage of it? Let's say you got Roswell as a customer. How many people are using it every day? [0:45:44, 0:45:47]: I don't know the statistics off the off the top of my head, uh, Councilman Alexander. [0:45:48, 0:46:08]: Would would you be able to get that information for me while the city manager is putting together a plan so the information that goes into this will be accurate and useful to us? We can we can definitely uh contact the city of Roswell and uh ask them what's going on over there. Yes, sir, Councilman Alexander. Thank you. I would imagine on that note, besides Roswell uh in any way I think [0:46:08, 0:46:28]: The uh city manager mentioned several different uh cities. Right. You may be better just besides one city if you have several different data on several different cities of different sizes, it would be probably pretty interesting for the rest of the council as well. Right. Yeah, absolutely. I I would say the closest city to you, Mayor Ford, would be City of Griffin, who's currently in the process of developing an online budget book with us as well as [0:46:27, 0:46:34]: the city of Austral uses a solution and a few other uh cities and counties around uh the city of Stockbridge. [0:46:34, 0:46:36]: All right, thank you. Mr. Blount, go ahead please. [0:46:36, 0:46:41]: So Griffin at this point is not imp th they're they're not up and going. They're they're implementing it now. [0:46:42, 0:46:53]: So they're up and running. Uh they did not take on the online budget book though. That was a uh that was a project they put on hold, uh, Councilman uh Blount. But now we're going through the implementation and finishing the project. [0:46:53, 0:46:54]: So [0:46:56, 0:47:04]: Okay. So basically what we're looking at for is what this really needs to be done with the citizens is the online budget book book, right? [0:47:05, 0:47:07]: Is that what we're talking about to to make it simple? [0:47:07, 0:47:27]: To make it simple, the citizens would be looking at the online budget book as well as reports that go down there. That is correct, Councilman Blount. But in order to create that online budget book, we need the departments to submit their proposals to be approved by John and Fred so that that information can be pushed into a report. Uh Councilman Blount. Thanks. [0:47:27, 0:47:42]: w because that's something I guess we would have to look at and because what you're saying is is that in order for you to get it out in a timely fashion, it has to be no deficiencies from the city, whether it's coming from public works, whether it's coming from [0:47:43, 0:47:46]: excuse me, community development di uh department uh any department. [0:47:47, 0:47:51]: There can't be any deficiencies'cause whatever deficiencies come in from here for [0:47:52, 0:47:54]: For transcription into your system. [0:47:54, 0:47:57]: It wouldn't be your problem, it would be ours. [0:47:57, 0:48:17]: That is correct, Councilman Blount. We we will be having not only myself look over the account, but you will be given a project manager, a customer success manager, uh, people who have worked in government their whole lives and come over to OpenGov uh and want to help local governments like in the state of Georgia tell push proper uh and transparent information to the public. [0:48:17, 0:48:21]: Okay. Mr. Wiggins, you are you familiar with this system? [0:48:22, 0:48:25]: I am. I am. I um [0:48:25, 0:48:45]: I've uh seen demos, concer uh a lot of demos of this particular uh program. So I'm I'm f I'm familiar with I think um before I left East Point they was getting into some type of platform like that. And then um but yeah I'm familiar with I'm [0:48:45, 0:49:00]: Because I don't wanna get in I don't wanna get into it and start to add b what concerns me about it is that we had a system in place that a toast system and you know the the the the the outcome of that. I'm just I'm just trying to figure out [0:49:01, 0:49:02]: sistematically [0:49:03, 0:49:08]: How would we make this work versus other systems we've had that [0:49:09, 0:49:15]: Well, uh di we'll deal with that later. Um we'll just I we'll just deal with the presentation. That's fine. Okay. [0:49:15, 0:49:35]: Yeah. Uh Councilmember Blanc, I I'm I'm the same way. I will give you some clarity on this. So where we strive differently in the market is one through our professional services and also the support. We have all United States based support. Like I said, I am twenty five minutes away if I need to be at the city of Stockbridge a few times a week to make sure this is [0:49:35, 0:49:55]: Running effectively and confidently with the staff members, I'll be here. But another thing we would like to point out here, we we have a plan put in place to get y'all up and running. And we'll continue to have support. So if there are questions, concerns, as I spoke about in the beginning of my presentation, we have staff members about 500 years of government. [0:49:55, 0:50:15]: and expertise that are here to help as either customer success managers or we like to call them customer success engineers that'll take time out of their day, which is included in the premium support to answer any questions that need to be had or solved. So this information can not only be correct for you council members or for John and the citizens. [0:50:15, 0:50:16]: [3016.6, 3027.8]: Bryce, I appreciate that. And and hope uh I hope I didn't um confuse you. Uh for me and for what we're gonna all have to discuss uh amongst ourselves. I'm pretty sure you're ready. [0:50:28, 0:50:31]: But the whole scheme of things I just need to make sure that we're ready. [0:50:32, 0:50:34]: Understand, Councilman Blount. [0:50:35, 0:50:52]: Any other questions for the council? Go go ahead, please. Yeah, uh I think we had a little bit of confusion on the upfront cost. So I think you indicated that there was a forty thousand dollar cost and then a fifty thousand dollar cost would which would be about ninety thousand dollars. Is that correct? I think we That is correct, Councilman Alexander. [0:50:52, 0:50:56]: Okay. All right. I think we just want to make sure that's clarified. All right, thank you. [0:50:58, 0:51:07]: Any other questions? And if not, thank you for the presentation. Obviously, it's a presentation, so more information to come on this aspect as well. Thank you. Appreciate your time. [0:51:09, 0:51:21]: Now we'll go on to public hearings and the first public hearing deals with the final reading and adoption of the uh proposed budget for twenty twenty three operating budget and capital improvement plan. And Mr. Gardner, Mr. Wiggins, please. [0:52:03, 0:52:04]: Gentlemen, uh [0:52:05, 0:52:07]: We're gonna go with the presentation here. [0:52:12, 0:52:17]: I'm waiting on the um the ordinance so we can read the ordinance for the last uh for the third reading. [0:52:21, 0:52:24]: All right, so I imagine that it's not in our booklet already then, okay? [0:52:24, 0:52:27]: No, I don't think so. [0:52:29, 0:52:38]: Yeah. Yes sir. Can can we move this to the back of the agenda? Let me see what's going on with this'cause I was told that the ordinance was sent but apparently [0:52:38, 0:52:45]: All right, so we'll we'll w okay. We'll move we'll get back to this. Uh we have two other public hearings. Uh [0:52:45, 0:52:59]: So when a public hearing issue here. Okay, so we'll move on and we'll come circle back to this particular item. Notice the public hearing comment and proposed stop bridge redevelopment plans for tax allocation district number one, downtown of North Henry Boulevard corridor. [0:53:00, 0:53:04]: And once again this is uh Mr. Gardner and Gary Monaghan. [0:53:05, 0:53:10]: that you sent me or responded to me in my last [0:53:10, 0:53:11]: Uh [0:53:12, 0:53:29]: Um email my questions. I I did not see that question in there, sir. The the questions that you s um take a vote here shortly sent to us did not include the credit card, the the merchant fees on there. [0:53:30, 0:53:40]: No, no. We responded to uh the grants, the fifteen officers, the sixty-two staff in the police department, who services the cars, fuel monitoring. [0:53:41, 0:53:46]: um fuel station as it relates to um public works. [0:53:47, 0:53:52]: Um well I I may have to go back and look at the [0:53:52, 0:54:03]: The first reading, it could have been in that uh I I and I'll double check that box. We had to make sure. So But we get the gist of where we're going. I think I think we understand that. Okay. [0:54:03, 0:54:07]: Uh mayor if I may continue. Yes sir, go ahead. Okay. Um [0:54:07, 0:54:10]: I also um [0:54:10, 0:54:23]: Yeah, we have a motion on the floor. I'm sorry. We have actually have a motion on the floor, unless you want to rescind the motion. I mean we'd we take a vote on that. Did we get a second that Mr. Alexander stepped out? So he did second. Okay, okay. [0:54:23, 0:54:24]: Um [0:54:24, 0:54:32]: So if no more discussion, motions on the floor to Well that's that's that's m let's move forward then. All right. Um all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:54:32, 0:54:35]: One, two, all right. [0:54:35, 0:54:40]: And I'm assuming he well Well, I'm assuming he was. He stepped out. He made the second, but um [0:54:40, 0:55:00]: Well he seconded the motion. I told him we were gonna vote on it shortly. So uh right now uh the the motion fails at this point, and uh but uh otherwise you'll be checking this out anyway. Uh but I would think that you will you'll have well motion motion failed. So we don't we don't have a simple majority just far, but I believe you understand. [0:55:00, 0:55:07]: understand what the intent it probably is, but in this aspect. So we'll move on. What else did you have to discuss, Mr. Meriport? Yes, ma'am. [0:55:10, 0:55:14]: No, no, he he he had to take care of something. He had to he had to take he'll be back. [0:55:15, 0:55:15]: You'll be back. [0:55:17, 0:55:28]: He did not leave the meeting. He left temporarily, I should say. He'll be back. He'll return. I have a question in response to the budget. Go ahead. Go ahead. Well well standby. I'm sorry. Mr. Mayor Potem's not finished yet. Stand by. Go ahead. [0:55:28, 0:55:41]: I don't know for this item do we need to hold until he comes back or table until he comes back. But I do have another question, another area. Well, I mean yeah Well you just said fail, so [0:55:41, 0:55:54]: Well that one did, yes, it did at this point,'cause he's not here to vote. Okay. Um so mister Gardner, my other question, um, in reading the budget [0:55:55, 0:56:15]: At the last meeting, at the second reading, you indicated that the positions that you originally recommended to come forward, I noticed in the budget they were highlighted in yellow, but they were uh [0:56:15, 0:56:18]: Uh f not funded, they were zeros out, correct? [0:56:20, 0:56:37]: And you indicated as much at the at the second reading that those positions would not come forward. You in the budget in the in the um graph that you had zeroed those out and they were not funded. So my question is um [0:56:38, 0:56:42]: The economic development directive, which is not a new position. [0:56:42, 0:56:45]: uh is an existing position [0:56:45, 0:57:05]: So my question, so when will we get an opportunity to um receive resumes of your uh candidate or candidates plural? When we get the opportunity uh to vet, you know, we're going into um [0:57:05, 0:57:17]: a new year and and as we go forward that is a uh critical position and as you may or may not know we have had two directors in the last [0:57:18, 0:57:25]: Uh, maybe three years I guess. And we just wanna try to get this right this time. And w um so [0:57:27, 0:57:34]: Are you pos are you are you following me? Yes, sir. Okay, so my question is when will we get an opportunity? [0:57:34, 0:57:41]: to review the um candidates when we get a opportunity to research that. [0:57:42, 0:57:46]: You know, the candidates so we can make a uh an informed decision. [0:57:46, 0:57:49]: So when would that come forward in other words? [0:57:49, 0:58:09]: Um where will we get a chance to s you know the resumes? Yes, sir. Unless unless well I'm sorry, go ahead, sir. Uh it was my understanding and and I'm I'm learning this is that we we present this the city manager presents um the [0:58:09, 0:58:10]: The [0:58:11, 0:58:15]: recommended candidate and I guess the um [0:58:16, 0:58:19]: The second person to council an executive session. [0:58:19, 0:58:23]: And then council at that point asked any questions they may have and [0:58:24, 0:58:25]: Then [0:58:26, 0:58:44]: vote to either no either confirm or not confirm the nominated candidate by the city manager. I didn't know that there was an end of separate interview process for a department head by a city council. Well the issue is we do not have a resume to even see. [0:58:44, 0:58:49]: Well, that was gonna be presented to you guys in executive session tonight, uh, by the way. [0:58:49, 0:58:50]: Mr. Garner. [0:58:51, 0:58:52]: Yes, sir. Um [0:58:55, 0:58:56]: We don't have it now. [0:58:57, 0:58:59]: We have not had an opportunity. [0:58:59, 0:59:06]: to to even read it, to research, I I I really think is is somewhat disrespectful. [0:59:06, 0:59:14]: Sir No disrespect intended whatsoever. But Mr. Gardner, let me finish if I may. May I fa may I finish? Yes, sir. [0:59:16, 0:59:18]: I heard you just say you were going to present this [0:59:19, 0:59:21]: in executive session tonight. [0:59:22, 0:59:25]: You cannot expect us to receive a document. [0:59:26, 0:59:31]: And to read it, to understand it, and then make a decision. [0:59:32, 0:59:35]: Some of us like to research this candidate. [0:59:35, 0:59:38]: To see the history. [0:59:38, 0:59:39]: Yeah. [0:59:39, 0:59:40]: Historically the [0:59:41, 0:59:42]: And traditionally [0:59:43, 0:59:46]: We have had this in advance so we could do our due diligence. [0:59:47, 0:59:52]: in in research the candidate that you bring forward. Yes, you're correct. [0:59:52, 0:59:55]: You provide the candidate, but we have to confirm [0:59:55, 0:59:58]: And I I can't make a decision [0:59:58, 0:59:59]: Within [1:00:00, 1:00:03]: A couple of minutes in reading a resume. [1:00:04, 1:00:21]: I obviously I was given uh different type of information than what's being presented to me today, so my apologies, sir. Okay. One second please. Well, I'm I'm I'm just sort of saying I I I would appreciate it to be able to receive it. [1:00:22, 1:00:25]: Uh in advance so I will have a chance to read it. [1:00:25, 1:00:27]: Maybe to research the candidate. It is Joe. [1:00:28, 1:00:29]: Your choice to present. [1:00:30, 1:00:43]: But it's also our choice to confer. Yes, sir. But to give it to us And I will present that to you guys in executive session. You do not have to vote on it tonight. You do not Okay. Thank you. Yeah, I I just wanna say this, you know. [1:00:44, 1:00:46]: Uh you know the [1:00:48, 1:00:49]: Mr Gardner. [1:00:50, 1:00:52]: We hired you as the city manager. [1:00:54, 1:01:02]: This appointment of a economic development director is not an appointment of counsel, is your choice for who you want for economic development director. [1:01:03, 1:01:05]: That's the way it's supposed to be. [1:01:07, 1:01:17]: That's the way it's supposed to be. We we are the council. If you're the head coach, build your team that you see fit to move this city forward. [1:01:18, 1:01:22]: I don't have to see go through every piece of paperwork you bring in to hire somebody. [1:01:22, 1:01:23]: I don't. [1:01:24, 1:01:27]: Because if we're paying you enough money to be here. [1:01:27, 1:01:34]: And bring in the people that you feel you need to run this city. I don't need to go through that paperwork. [1:01:35, 1:01:43]: If you say this the person I need to run this city and do a good job, I we have to trust that you're doing what you're supposed to do. [1:01:43, 1:01:45]: And getting the people you need to do it. [1:01:46, 1:02:01]: I don't have to see it. I'm not gonna waste my time going over something that you have the authority to do. You're the city manager. We're here we're here point of order. We are here to legislate and create policies. [1:02:02, 1:02:08]: We are here to do if we hire you to do something, then then that was that's what I want to see you to do. [1:02:08, 1:02:12]: I wanna see you do what we hire you to do. I don't need to see. [1:02:13, 1:02:18]: De p d the application. If you say that that's the person qualified to do it, I'm fine with it. [1:02:18, 1:02:22]: So when you ever you get together to do that, just let me know and I'll just go home. [1:02:23, 1:02:27]: All right. Mayor Ford. Stand by please. Pointing what's appointed or ma'am? [1:02:28, 1:02:33]: Are we discussing item number five final reading and adoption? [1:02:33, 1:02:46]: Yeah, we are t we are talking about doctor the question was brought up about this particular interview. I have a question as well. Okay. Okay. And uh stand by uh Mayor Potem, what's your question? Mayor uh Councilwoman Barber. [1:02:47, 1:02:53]: have several questions actually. Okay. Uh Mr Gardner and Mr Wiggins, have you all put together a schedule for [1:02:53, 1:02:57]: next year's um mid year budget reviews. [1:02:58, 1:02:59]: Do you have a schedule? [1:02:59, 1:03:03]: Already for those since we didn't have any of them this year. [1:03:06, 1:03:16]: Five. We don't have a schedule. I'm I'm not understanding what you mean by like a schedule. Like a time frame up for it. Since I've been here, um minus this year. [1:03:16, 1:03:19]: We've had a winter and fall retreat. [1:03:19, 1:03:21]: So in February [1:03:21, 1:03:23]: And I guess in [1:03:24, 1:03:25]: September, October. [1:03:26, 1:03:27]: We've had a fall retreat. [1:03:27, 1:03:29]: We did not have that this year. [1:03:30, 1:03:30]: Um [1:03:30, 1:03:37]: There's a whole lot of questions I have in regards to the budget. I'm not going to approve it because I have so many questions. [1:03:38, 1:03:38]: Um [1:03:39, 1:03:42]: We have not had an opportunity to do a [1:03:43, 1:03:48]: deep dive into these numbers. One of the questions that I do have is in reference to [1:03:51, 1:03:52]: The [1:03:53, 1:03:56]: Information you provided us with the ARPA funding balance. [1:03:59, 1:04:01]: I have the balance. My question is [1:04:02, 1:04:03]: That middle [1:04:04, 1:04:06]: [3846.3, 3847.8]: You say original budget. [1:04:08, 1:04:10]: Is that original budget twenty twenty two? [1:04:11, 1:04:13]: Because it's not titled, is that? [1:04:13, 1:04:15]: You just say original budget. [1:04:15, 1:04:16]: Then you say [1:04:16, 1:04:18]: New revised budget. [1:04:18, 1:04:19]: So is that [1:04:20, 1:04:22]: Twenty twenty three. [1:04:23, 1:04:23]: Well. [1:04:25, 1:04:29]: Are you talking about in the budget book? Are you you talking about the t the table that was given to you? [1:04:31, 1:04:33]: This table that was flagged in the book. [1:04:38, 1:04:43]: Is that ta that page have a you have a page number on it? That's not that's not in a uh that's not in the budget book. [1:04:44, 1:04:55]: Well, it was provided in my agenda. It was given to you as information that was requested by council. Yes. Okay, so I have a question in regards to this. So I wanna know here. [1:04:55, 1:04:56]: This middle table. [1:04:57, 1:04:58]: That you provided. [1:04:59, 1:05:01]: Here where it says original budget. [1:05:01, 1:05:03]: Is that twenty twenty two? [1:05:03, 1:05:04]: Okay. [1:05:04, 1:05:08]: And the new revised budget that's twenty twenty three. [1:05:09, 1:05:12]: The new revised. [1:05:13, 1:05:33]: Yes, it's not new uh 2023. It's um it's it's the grants manager. That was a working uh spreadsheet on working on the budget to get to the point where you can get the numbers up to 2023. That summary there should be showing uh what's left. [1:05:34, 1:05:42]: My question is you have them broken down by three different categories. And what I asked for was um [1:05:44, 1:05:50]: Out of all three well the two departments Public Works and the Police Department. [1:05:50, 1:05:55]: I wanted to know how much ARPA funding had been [1:05:55, 1:05:57]: Spent by the police department. [1:05:58, 1:06:02]: how much of ARPA funds have been spent by public works. [1:06:02, 1:06:03]: I see. [1:06:04, 1:06:07]: Human resources is added on this table as well. [1:06:09, 1:06:12]: And it just says Medicaid and incentive payment. [1:06:13, 1:06:15]: I don't know what that means. [1:06:16, 1:06:23]: Is this the am I the only one that got this? [1:06:23, 1:06:26]: Okay. So please explain that. [1:06:28, 1:06:30]: So Miss Ms Barkle. [1:06:31, 1:06:35]: And the reason why that is um [1:06:35, 1:06:37]: asking about it is because [1:06:38, 1:06:43]: Along with the other бюджет репортаж та чі проводить он пейдж твою. [1:06:44, 1:06:47]: of what is this, a detail versus budget report? [1:06:48, 1:06:49]: Page two. [1:06:50, 1:06:51]: The second account. [1:06:52, 1:06:54]: The employee retention program. [1:06:55, 1:06:58]: It shows two hundred and eighty thousand five hundred dollars. [1:06:59, 1:07:01]: I'm not able to match that. [1:07:02, 1:07:03]: Ending balance. [1:07:03, 1:07:05]: Well what you have on there? [1:07:05, 1:07:08]: And I know that ARPA funding was used for the [1:07:09, 1:07:12]: incentive pay or retention program. [1:07:13, 1:07:15]: So I just need to see where [1:07:15, 1:07:17]: How all of this is aligned. [1:07:18, 1:07:20]: Okay, so explain to me what that is then. [1:07:21, 1:07:24]: You need to say it to Mike. You need to say it to Mike, please. [1:07:28, 1:07:30]: Okay, what ch what you have here [1:07:30, 1:07:32]: Um this original budget. [1:07:32, 1:07:35]: This original budget is was is what [1:07:35, 1:07:41]: was done in the beginning when we when we when we uh received the ARPA funds. [1:07:41, 1:07:47]: Uh the revised budget is what has been the reconciliation that the grant manager has done. [1:07:48, 1:07:49]: to get to this point. [1:07:49, 1:07:52]: Both of them are are twenty twenty two. [1:07:52, 1:07:54]: So um [1:07:54, 1:07:55]: Right now. [1:07:56, 1:08:00]: It's showing that is how much the police department has spent. [1:08:00, 1:08:03]: You have my paper, so I can't follow along with you. [1:08:08, 1:08:09]: Mm-hmm. [1:08:10, 1:08:11]: Well not. [1:08:14, 1:08:15]: I don't know what okay. [1:08:16, 1:08:17]: Yeah. [1:08:18, 1:08:20]: Those are the original totals, right? Right. [1:08:21, 1:08:22]: Uh right. [1:08:23, 1:08:33]: Those we would spend it for the police I just wanna understand how much um of ARPA funding was used for incentive or recension [1:08:33, 1:08:35]: Retention. [1:08:35, 1:08:55]: Yeah. And employee retention. I don't think she had only thing that's not on here is the re is the retention, which is about two hundred eighty something. That's not on here. We uh the the incentive pay one of the previous charts. Yes, this is one of the previous chart before the the retention pay. Repetition retention pay was about two hundred, but [1:08:55, 1:09:04]: The retention pay would go down in this in the in the column where you see human resources, it would go in there, which will increase that budget. [1:09:05, 1:09:08]: Of eighty eight thousand. Okay, so I asked [1:09:08, 1:09:09]: How much? [1:09:10, 1:09:16]: Of ARPA funding was spent for employee retention. Two hundred eighty thousand. Okay. [1:09:18, 1:09:23]: So that is what is in this detail versus budget report. Yes. On page two. [1:09:23, 1:09:23]: Okay. [1:09:25, 1:09:26]: So [1:09:27, 1:09:30]: The balance of our ARPA funds as it stands right now. [1:09:31, 1:09:32]: Is it don't [1:09:33, 1:09:34]: Is it the one million? [1:09:35, 1:09:36]: Five hundred and forty [1:09:37, 1:09:37]: Okay. [1:09:38, 1:09:39]: Thank you. [1:09:39, 1:09:40]: I also see [1:09:41, 1:09:43]: This employee retention initiative. [1:09:44, 1:09:47]: Is that what the proposed budget is? [1:09:47, 1:09:48]: For next year. [1:09:48, 1:09:50]: No. It was a one time. [1:09:51, 1:09:52]: Okay, so was that [1:09:53, 1:09:54]: For this year [1:09:54, 1:10:07]: Yes. This says additional approved projects for three hundred thousand dollars. No. Is that in the for for forty twenty two budget? For twenty twenty three you're gonna have one point five million to spend. [1:10:07, 1:10:10]: One one point one six seven of that. [1:10:11, 1:10:13]: is restricted to [1:10:13, 1:10:24]: Uh sewer, water, storm water and bro. What is this? This three hundred thousand dollars. What is that? [1:10:25, 1:10:26]: Hmm. [1:10:26, 1:10:27]: That [1:10:30, 1:10:36]: That was the that was the initial budget for the retention, but that didn't happen. We only spent two hundred eighty thousand. [1:10:37, 1:10:38]: Okay. Thank you. [1:10:41, 1:10:47]: Mr. Gardner, have you all put together a schedule for a mid year [1:10:48, 1:10:49]: Budget reviews. [1:10:49, 1:10:51]: For twenty twenty three. [1:10:52, 1:10:55]: For council retreats or something. [1:10:57, 1:11:00]: All right. So [1:11:01, 1:11:12]: No, we I have not actually put together for our for next year's retreat. But I will I will I'm actually looking at trying to get everything scheduled. [1:11:12, 1:11:18]: So the goal is to have that first retreat that we typically have I think we did it in [1:11:19, 1:11:25]: March. So the goal is to try to have it earlier in February. Because what I told you Mayor Pornobar. [1:11:26, 1:11:27]: Porn water. [1:11:28, 1:11:36]: We're dealing with the twenty FY twenty twenty three. Okay. My question to Mr. Gardner. [1:11:36, 1:11:47]: Mayor, you know this point you have to hear the point of order. Uh stand by I heard the point of order, okay? I heard your point of order. We'll continue on with her questioning so Mrs. Garter can finish that. Go ahead with your questioning, please. [1:11:47, 1:12:02]: So yes ma'am. So the goal is to try to do it earlier than we did it in March. Because remember I came on in January. So the goal is to try to get it done in February. So I'm trying to f get the facilitator and then get the location so we can we can do our uh [1:12:03, 1:12:23]: First retreat and hopefully by then we'll have our strategic plan so that'll be a good guide for us to go by. We can pull all of those F all those FY23 projects out and y'all guys can go over them. And then the FY twenty four we need to shuffle any of those things around. That's gonna give us a working document to go by and then y'all can gauge. [1:12:22, 1:12:42]: our success or failure based on how we accomplish those throughout the year. And then the goal obviously understanding what what you know from having a conversation with Councilmember Thomas, I think we'll do something in this in the summer. This typically the city clerk is usually able to get a a good deal on the second meeting. So we'll definitely schedule that [1:12:42, 1:12:48]: And let you guys know when that's gonna be scheduled. Somewhere we typically do it in August. [1:12:49, 1:12:55]: in August of of twenty twenty three. So February of twenty twenty three, first retreat, second retreat. [1:12:55, 1:12:56]: August of twenty twenty three. [1:12:57, 1:12:58]: Thank you, sir. You micro. [1:12:58, 1:12:59]: You're good. [1:13:00, 1:13:02]: Okay, looks like okay, Mayor Potem, go ahead, please. [1:13:03, 1:13:08]: Mr. God, let me respond to to that conversation here. [1:13:08, 1:13:10]: In your pledge. [1:13:10, 1:13:11]: What did I see? [1:13:12, 1:13:13]: Yes, sir. [1:13:21, 1:13:22]: Ooh, out. [1:13:24, 1:13:26]: You say we are that [1:13:27, 1:13:29]: And the city manager. [1:13:32, 1:13:34]: Yeah, provide to the city council. [1:13:37, 1:13:45]: These quarterly these reports, financial reports, no late no less than quarterly. [1:13:50, 1:13:51]: Just want to read it again. [1:13:51, 1:13:52]: Just for that conversation. [1:13:53, 1:13:54]: Also. [1:13:54, 1:13:56]: The charter. [1:13:57, 1:13:58]: The charm. [1:13:59, 1:14:01]: Under [1:14:07, 1:14:12]: Article four, administrative affairs. [1:14:12, 1:14:16]: Section four point one zero. [1:14:18, 1:14:30]: E it says all directors under the supervision of the city manager shall be nominated. [1:14:30, 1:14:32]: And confirmed. [1:14:33, 1:14:39]: by the city council. That's what the charts. Right. That's that's and that's that and that's what I was following, sir. [1:14:40, 1:14:42]: Traditionally [1:14:43, 1:14:51]: And I've been through nine or ten budgets during my tenure as an elected official here. Historically, traditionally, [1:14:52, 1:14:54]: We have always [1:14:54, 1:15:01]: had those resumes of those department heads that have came forward in time. [1:15:02, 1:15:06]: for council members to read study bet cet et cetera. [1:15:06, 1:15:10]: The last two economic development directors. [1:15:11, 1:15:13]: disturbably, traditionally. [1:15:13, 1:15:16]: We have the opportunity to vet them. [1:15:17, 1:15:20]: We had their resumes in advance. [1:15:20, 1:15:22]: For your confirmation. [1:15:23, 1:15:24]: We have your resume. [1:15:25, 1:15:27]: Well in advance, we [1:15:27, 1:15:30]: to study to read to vet [1:15:32, 1:15:34]: There's nothing no different from that. [1:15:34, 1:15:36]: That's what I'm saying to you. [1:15:37, 1:15:49]: That's not good enough for me, for you to want to give me a resume in a few minutes and then want me to make a decision at the very same time. I'm talking about what the charter said and I'm talking about historically and traditionally. [1:15:50, 1:16:09]: Understood. And and and and Mr. Thomas, I I I I I at the outset, once you said that, I said that I will give you those resumes and we're gonna take a vote on that. You agreed. So you speak to the charter, and the charter does say that the city manager nominates and the council confirms. [1:16:10, 1:16:19]: However, that charter does not specify anything other than traditions or what we used to do or how we used to do it is not specified in the charter. It doesn't. And [1:16:20, 1:16:20]: But [1:16:21, 1:16:25]: I I will give you an example, right? And this is where I say I'm wrong and I will correct. [1:16:26, 1:16:26]: Right. [1:16:27, 1:16:30]: And my prior job it is specific. [1:16:30, 1:16:50]: Where it says that the council shall have resumes of any nominated department heads ten days in advance of them being brought to council. That's written in the charter. That's not written in this charter. But it's just writ it's just pr the word of the charter is the word of the charter, Mr. Mr. Thomas. But I understand tradition. I will I would hear [1:16:50, 1:17:07]: But Mr. Gardner. But Mr. Gardner. And as I as I mentioned before, I was given information that obviously contradicts what you said earlier. And I said I agree and I will make the change. But m but Mr. Garner, and we have said this all the time, and then this council knows this. [1:17:08, 1:17:10]: And good conscience, how can you? [1:17:11, 1:17:12]: Present a document. [1:17:14, 1:17:15]: And expect a decision. [1:17:16, 1:17:22]: in in that in a f in a in just a in a few minutes. And and reading I'm sorta harping on this [1:17:23, 1:17:24]: As I stated earlier. [1:17:25, 1:17:31]: We have gone through two economic development directors within just a few years. [1:17:32, 1:17:34]: At some point in time [1:17:35, 1:17:36]: We have to get it right. [1:17:38, 1:17:58]: And we have and we we have a responsibility as elected officials to do our due diligence, just like you have a responsibility as the city manager. We all have our responsibility. I'm not gonna shuck mine. I'm not gonna take anything away from you. I say you do your job and let us do our job. [1:17:58, 1:18:05]: And that's what it's all about. Everybody doing their job. Everybody doing their due diligence. [1:18:06, 1:18:11]: And it's no disrespect to anyone. Everybody's just doing their due diligence. [1:18:11, 1:18:14]: We have to get this right. It's too important. [1:18:15, 1:18:20]: These directors had to come in and they have to be accountable to do a job. [1:18:22, 1:18:28]: And it's up to us as the elected body to confirm that. I don't take that lightly. [1:18:30, 1:18:36]: I yield back, Mail. Thank you. No problem. Good deal. We'll move we'll we'll move we'll we listen to you and move on. I need to I need to say something. [1:18:37, 1:18:48]: Well let I take hold on. M Mr Gardner, one of the things I've asked is that we take this antiquated charter. [1:18:50, 1:18:55]: And that we start to go down this charter and do what fits a twentieth century city. [1:18:56, 1:19:03]: We cannot continue to operate with his antiquated charter, and when it comes to the economic development directive, we've had two. [1:19:04, 1:19:07]: We've had two. This council has told a city manager. [1:19:08, 1:19:13]: We need a economic develop development director in thirty days and he gave this council what they wanted. [1:19:14, 1:19:17]: And that person probably if he lasts a year. [1:19:18, 1:19:21]: The second economic develop development director, he's gone in a year. [1:19:22, 1:19:24]: We've got to start allowing. [1:19:24, 1:19:28]: The city manager to pick the people they want. [1:19:28, 1:19:39]: And we need to fix this charter so the city can move forward, have employees that are know what they're doing, moving the city forward, vetted by our city manager. [1:19:40, 1:19:48]: I'm not a student in economic development. I know what I want, but you know how to make it happen. This is why we should look to you to to vet those positions. [1:19:49, 1:19:51]: That you've gone to school to do. [1:19:51, 1:19:55]: And that you're in that position to do. We have to stop [1:19:55, 1:20:00]: We have to look at the totality of everything and make it work for everybody. [1:20:01, 1:20:16]: When we come to this council meeting, we ask a thousand questions that we could ask behind closed doors. Citizens aren't here to hear us bicker. They're not here to ha hear questions answered that could have been asked behind closed doors. They're here to see things move and things are done. [1:20:16, 1:20:23]: And until this council get that, then we're gonna see two or three people sitting in this council, man, because nobody wants to sit here all night. [1:20:24, 1:20:36]: Listen to council members ask questions that could have been asked behind closed doors. So I thank you for the job you're doing, Mr. Garden. I hope that when you bring us a candidate, it's a candidate of your choice, and not by anything this council saying you need to do. [1:20:37, 1:20:40]: Mayor Ford Please Mayor Ford, please. [1:20:41, 1:20:43]: Let me just say this. [1:20:43, 1:20:49]: We did not know this was coming forward until he just told us. We didn't know. That's number one. [1:20:51, 1:20:52]: Number two. [1:20:53, 1:20:56]: All of the city managers, the previous [1:20:56, 1:20:57]: City Manager. [1:20:58, 1:20:59]: These were his [1:21:00, 1:21:01]: Nominees. [1:21:03, 1:21:11]: He nominated the last two, the city manager that was in position at that point in time. These were his candidates. [1:21:13, 1:21:15]: Not the city council candidates. [1:21:15, 1:21:23]: These were his candidates. If this council tells a city manager, I need a economic development director here in 30 days, it may take you 60 days. [1:21:23, 1:21:43]: Why would we put that on any city manager? I do. Why would this council take over? Mayor, either we're gonna stop the conversation or you're gonna uh or we're gonna stop it on this piece right now, cause we're gonna we're going way down. We we need to move on. We we need to move on to other legitimate type of concerns about the budget so we can get to open up the public hearing and get to a vote, whether they're gonna accept the budget or night or not. [1:21:43, 1:21:58]: not. All right. So um this once again this is the budget review. Are if uh and any other questions outside of this the personnel action that we just talked about. We need if there are any other questions about the budget, we need to be able to discuss those. Anyone? [1:21:59, 1:22:03]: I was hoping um that there would be actual [1:22:05, 1:22:09]: presentation of the additional information that they were to bring to us. [1:22:10, 1:22:19]: Well w uh well my thought I mean unless they guess something else. I mean they've we've already had two presentations, you've had the budget. With the additional information that was requested at the last minute. [1:22:20, 1:22:22]: I wanted to see the actuals from the amphitheater. [1:22:23, 1:22:25]: I wanted to see what the breakdown was. [1:22:26, 1:22:28]: Um of the ARPA funding. [1:22:28, 1:22:32]: I expected that staff was gonna do a presentation on the additional information. [1:22:32, 1:22:34]: Yes, I've reviewed it. [1:22:34, 1:22:35]: But [1:22:35, 1:22:39]: just for full transparency to the public, I thought that they would. [1:22:39, 1:22:40]: But that's fine. [1:22:42, 1:22:42]: It's fine. [1:22:45, 1:22:56]: Is there something that you have, Mr Gardner, in reference to that at all? Yeah, I think as we as we got the questions we we made the changes um as necessary. Um [1:22:58, 1:23:18]: Uh I I didn't want belated bel I'm messing up my terminologies tonight, I'm sorry. Beleaguer the the issue of going through the presentation I think we've gone through. Um, you know, the only one variable that I would say as we mentioned to to you guys before is, you know, the budget is predicated on its revenues and [1:23:18, 1:23:38]: And obviously the chief revenue source for us is still gonna be undetermined because of course we brought in sixty-six to seven thousand, sixty hundred to seven thousand new residents, and we've got to go back to the county and ask for more money. And so we don't know what that gonna look like until we obviously negotiate with. [1:23:38, 1:23:44]: dam but we do have the fiduciary responsibility to go ahead and obviously and and adopt our budget [1:23:45, 1:24:05]: with the understanding that that revenue source um may potentially change when we come out of negotiation, whether it be negotiated to a percentage or do we have to go the the other route, which I hope we don't, which is legal. We do we don't we don't go that route. That we can come to an agreement [1:24:05, 1:24:05]: Hey. [1:24:06, 1:24:26]: You know, those seven thousand residents represented X amount of the population from the county into the city and hence represent X amount of money to the city and the county agrees and we sign off on that new agreement and walk away. Um that's the hope. But as you guys know, you know, that process could be a little bit longer than that. But [1:24:26, 1:24:39]: I think the law does require us that we have a negotiated settlement within sixty days of January one. Once we send notification, I think our legal team is already in conjunction with working with GMA. [1:24:39, 1:24:55]: have already put together that correspondence to send immediately january one to the county, notifying them of the provisions under the law that says we had an annexation during the lost during the lost portion that was approved. That [1:24:56, 1:25:10]: That increase in our population represented more than sixteen percent and under the law, we can't take that money from the adjacent cities. We have to come to the county because that's where that cop population came from. And the county have to understand it. [1:25:10, 1:25:12]: That population represented some [1:25:12, 1:25:29]: some revenue as it relates to loss and what that is. So hopefully when we get to that point, obviously this process will start January one when we send a letter and then we'll have to be sitting down with the county staff to go over and county as chief chief elected official Miss Um Calada. [1:25:29, 1:25:32]: to determine, hey, what that percentage would be. [1:25:32, 1:25:38]: You're also gonna be um requesting rollback of police services. [1:25:39, 1:25:41]: As well for those NX. [1:25:42, 1:25:56]: Residents too, right? Uh my understanding of it and I've been I and I've I've only had one conversation with one council member, so I can't speak for the council as a whole, but that's a council decision whether or not they want to roll back the one the one point oh n [1:25:57, 1:25:59]: The one point nine oh four [1:26:00, 1:26:14]: Millage rate that was being paid for police services by city residents. Okay, so I want to make sure that I'm clear what I'm saying. I want to make sure that I'm clear in what I'm saying. I'm talking about two different groups of residents. [1:26:14, 1:26:16]: The current residence of Stockbridge is [1:26:17, 1:26:20]: We already know, we've already gone to the county, they've agreed that [1:26:21, 1:26:30]: They owe us. Yes. You already determined what that amount is. So yes. Okay, we are not talking about that. Yeah, we have to talk about it. I'm talking about the second group. [1:26:31, 1:26:33]: The newly annexed residence. [1:26:33, 1:26:36]: Who will be residents of the city January first. [1:26:37, 1:26:40]: Will we be going to the county and asking for? [1:26:40, 1:26:49]: A reimbursement for public safety for those new NX residents from January 2023. [1:26:50, 1:27:09]: To is it June? Yes, ma'am. Yes, okay. That is what I'm talking about. Yes, ma'am. So at the same time that you are going to the county to negotiate the loss percentage for those newly annexed residents, you're also gonna be asking about public safety and the reimbursement or [1:27:10, 1:27:17]: Yes. Refund for those same group of residents. And that was discussed um Correct. Yes, ma'am. And that was discussed at the meeting. [1:27:18, 1:27:38]: Um Chair Horrell recognized that and and told us that hey, um in twenty at the beginning of twenty twenty three y'all could go ahead and request that those additional funds from us. Um and that's exactly what we're going to do. Uh good deal. Now I'm assuming that that six day period actually probably bumps right up against one March, I would imagine. Somewhere around it, yes. Right. Okay. [1:27:38, 1:27:50]: Good deal. Now, um, let's let's do this. Let's go through uh uh public hearing, somebody open it up and uh go through this process. So open it up for positive comments in reference to the budget on the far left hand side, my left hand side over here. [1:27:51, 1:27:52]: In the middle. [1:27:52, 1:27:59]: Any comments positive over here on the right side. See none. Any negative comments that want uh the public here on my far left side. [1:28:00, 1:28:01]: David Commiss, in the middle. [1:28:02, 1:28:02]: Far right. [1:28:03, 1:28:12]: All right, so there are no comments uh for or against for this budget this time. Unless there's any further disc if there's not any further discussion, I need a motion to accept this particular I'm sorry. [1:28:12, 1:28:22]: No, I need to make a discussion. Yeah, we don't have a quorum. I I didn't realize it disappeared. Well we don't have a quorum, um, so I'm not making any decision, but I do have a comment. Go ahead, sir. [1:28:22, 1:28:26]: uh to make uh while we wait on the quarrel [1:28:31, 1:28:38]: It held to go in there anyway. I'm all right. No, it's that's fine. Um [1:28:41, 1:29:00]: The the the interesting thing about this whole budget right now is is the thing that I've talked to this council about from day one. When we had you, Mr. Wiggins, and talked to you, we talked to the previous city manager that was here, and we talked to our financial advisor. [1:29:02, 1:29:05]: Prior to the decisions that this council has made. [1:29:07, 1:29:14]: We was told and I had you, Mr. Wiggins, along with the financial advisor and m uh the last city manager. [1:29:14, 1:29:16]: To do a um [1:29:16, 1:29:18]: Financial uh assessment. [1:29:19, 1:29:22]: You did it from twenty nineteen through twenty twenty four. [1:29:23, 1:29:31]: And what has been told to us by our financial advisor along with our city manager, and I think you concurred with it. [1:29:31, 1:29:33]: Is that the road that we was going down? [1:29:34, 1:29:38]: had to it was a road that would have to implement a tax to pay for it. [1:29:40, 1:29:44]: This is something so when we s schematically go into something. [1:29:45, 1:29:48]: then we needed to go a about it in the best way we could. [1:29:49, 1:29:51]: To serve, in my opinion, the citizens the best way we could. [1:29:54, 1:29:55]: When I sit on this council [1:29:57, 1:29:57]: At a meeting. [1:29:59, 1:30:00]: Almost two years ago. [1:30:01, 1:30:03]: And the first time I hear that we're starting a police department. [1:30:04, 1:30:05]: Was that a council meeting? [1:30:06, 1:30:10]: Then we went down a road that once the ball get rolling. [1:30:10, 1:30:12]: Which it has, we have a police department. [1:30:13, 1:30:15]: Now we're talking about rollback. [1:30:15, 1:30:25]: Now we're talking about what's gonna how we're gonna pay this budget. Now we're talking about who we're gonna do. We're talking because we put the cart before the horse. There was no plan in place. [1:30:27, 1:30:36]: No plan in place. And one of the things that I that I will always do, I don't sit here to get re-elected. I get I sit here to tell the truth and be transparent. [1:30:36, 1:30:38]: And this is why I've always told citizens. [1:30:39, 1:30:42]: We don't have a pain plan in place to pay for all this. [1:30:44, 1:30:44]: We don't. [1:30:47, 1:30:49]: And it's interesting right now. [1:30:50, 1:30:54]: That right now we gotta wait to have a quorum on the day of our last budget. [1:30:56, 1:31:01]: I think that's real interesting that we sit here and right now we can't do anything till we have a sitting quarrel. [1:31:02, 1:31:03]: On the day of our last budget. [1:31:05, 1:31:06]: Because I'ma tell you. [1:31:06, 1:31:07]: In seven years. [1:31:08, 1:31:11]: I've never had to use our savings to balance a budget. [1:31:13, 1:31:15]: And I think that we have to. [1:31:16, 1:31:18]: Be open and honest with the citizens. [1:31:19, 1:31:26]: I don't sit here and play games with the citizens because I'm a citizen first and I would like to say that. [1:31:27, 1:31:28]: So when I sit here [1:31:29, 1:31:35]: And I'm concerned about whether I'm on this council or not, what's gonna happen to the future of this city. That's where I'm at. [1:31:37, 1:31:42]: This is why I asked for that analysis and it showed by twenty twenty four. [1:31:42, 1:31:43]: Our budget gonna almost double. [1:31:44, 1:31:45]: Almost double. [1:31:48, 1:31:49]: But we're not [1:31:49, 1:31:52]: When but but where's the plan? [1:31:54, 1:31:55]: Where's the plan? [1:31:57, 1:32:02]: And I'm only saying this because I got a budget in front of me right now that needs to be approved. [1:32:06, 1:32:07]: But I did not. [1:32:09, 1:32:15]: When we put all these things in place that was gonna cause the city money, where's the where's where the people? Where where the elected body? [1:32:19, 1:32:27]: All right, uh we now have a quorum back sitting. So I've already opened and clot opened and then closed the public hearing. No comments for or against the budget this time. [1:32:27, 1:32:37]: I need a motion uh to approve the uh budget as presented. Um is there a motion to approve this uh budget as accepted this evening? [1:32:39, 1:32:40]: Is there a motion? [1:32:43, 1:32:44]: Is there a motion? [1:32:45, 1:32:54]: All right. No motion so no approval, which makes me think right off the top of my head, that means council work session, which is scheduled for the twentieth of December. [1:32:55, 1:33:15]: Would have at least two items on it. This budget approval for 2023 and also the actual uh pay increase uh as proposed earlier for the mayor council uh to be effective at uh twenty January first of January of twenty twenty four, provided it is passed at that time. So we have a couple items on the on the work session set for. [1:33:14, 1:33:17]: [5597.5, 5598.3]: We'll move on. [1:33:19, 1:33:26]: Council consideration approved twenty twenty two utility billing write-offs, presented by Mr. Wiggins, please. [1:33:36, 1:33:43]: Mayor and Council come before you to uh have you approve the twenty twenty-one utility building write-offs. [1:33:43, 1:33:52]: Uh the twenty twenty-one utility building write-offs in the amount of forty-five thousand six hundred and forty-nine thousand eighty-three cents. [1:33:52, 1:33:55]: It's an increase from last year of about thirty one thousand. [1:33:56, 1:33:58]: Five hundred thirty eight dollars. [1:33:59, 1:34:04]: Last year council approved the write-off in the amount of fourteen thousand one hundred and one. [1:34:05, 1:34:06]: Thousand dollars and seventy eight cents. [1:34:10, 1:34:12]: Well I'll tell you what. I tell you what, John. Um [1:34:13, 1:34:22]: It's increase. I mean, I just gotta ask the question. What why did it increase? I mean people just aren't paying the bills. Is that what's what happened here? What was That's exactly uh what happened? Um [1:34:24, 1:34:44]: Um we didn't do any cutoffs. Because of the pandemic? Because of the pandemic. March 2020. And then we we picked up the uh cutoffs again back in July 2021. By that time, everybody that was on that list had already vacated. So as of now [1:34:44, 1:34:51]: when we started to cut off, uh all those services have been have been um shut off. [1:34:52, 1:35:06]: But at the same time, we had to send all those services, all those uh addresses and to collections. So that is the reason why it [1:35:06, 1:35:19]: increase and kind of stayed at the level because we weren't able to do any cutoffs. And usually when you do cutoffs that would that would get your um that that would stop the bleeding or it will um [1:35:20, 1:35:22]: [5723.3, 5743.3]: Okay, so make sure I understand the document in front of us says year twenty twenty-one. Right. Right. So you always report a year, you always report the year like this year's twenty twenty one twenty twenty-two, but we always gonna report the uh the last year. The previous year. The previous year. Okay. Rear and in rear. Okay, in rears. All right. All right, council. [1:35:43, 1:35:44]: Any questions for Mr. Wiggins? [1:35:46, 1:35:55]: Were you able to be successful in any of your collection efforts to collect on what percentage? [1:35:56, 1:36:05]: Any no. Everybody it was about fifty-three uh uh that it was about fifty-three um [1:36:06, 1:36:11]: Residence or commercial um that was um [1:36:11, 1:36:16]: on the list and we weren't able to collect any of them. So now uh [1:36:17, 1:36:18]: Digital Sydney Collection. [1:36:20, 1:36:32]: Because nobody's at that address anymore. Most of the ones that was at the address out of that fifty three or at least forty was renters. Number eight, right? And they left. Okay. Thank you. [1:36:36, 1:36:56]: Okay, any other questions? Oh no other questions? Okay. So I'm yes, sir. Go ahead. Mr. Wiggins, th this right here it comes, this is almost every year it comes to a point to this right here. And so this is nothing new. Um so um I've you all have done your due diligence on it. I'd like to motion to uh to approve the uh utility bill. [1:36:56, 1:36:58]: [5819.5, 5824.4]: Ms. Oh, Ms. Barber, second that. Okay, any further discussion? If not, all in favor, please indicate. [1:37:05, 1:37:08]: She now she says and thank you. Appreciate the council. Okay. [1:37:10, 1:37:26]: Council consideration approved water deposit change slash increase presented by Mr. Wiggins. Please now this is this is um for twenty twenty-three water deposit change. Uh the current water deposit require [1:37:26, 1:37:28]: To have services connected. [1:37:28, 1:37:30]: It's a hundred and fifty dollars. [1:37:31, 1:37:34]: For renters only in the seat of Stockbridge. [1:37:35, 1:37:39]: We utility building and fine and finance we're requesting [1:37:39, 1:37:41]: That we increase the water deposit [1:37:41, 1:37:42]: To two hundred. [1:37:43, 1:38:01]: That 200 increasingly by$50 would put us in line with all the sister cities in Henry County that uh their water prize is two hundred. So we're falling in line also with Henry County as our um water prize being two hundred. At the same time. [1:38:03, 1:38:03]: Um [1:38:04, 1:38:09]: We're looking because this is in the ordinance, it only says for renters only. [1:38:10, 1:38:14]: Um just like all the other sister cities in in Hemory County. [1:38:15, 1:38:15]: Uh [1:38:16, 1:38:21]: We're requesting that we also change the language to charge homeowners. [1:38:22, 1:38:23]: water deposit fee. [1:38:24, 1:38:28]: As well as uh property management company and [1:38:28, 1:38:30]: uh investment companies. [1:38:31, 1:38:32]: Дис асо [1:38:33, 1:38:35]: We help out with um [1:38:37, 1:38:39]: Going back to the previous uh um [1:38:40, 1:38:44]: uh agenda. This that would also help with that too, because [1:38:46, 1:38:49]: With the renters we applied the one hundred fifty. [1:38:50, 1:38:50]: But [1:38:51, 1:39:00]: With this right here, we can also it'd be able we'd be able to apply this to the homeowners to I mean to the investment company or the uh property owner. [1:39:00, 1:39:02]: The two hundred, if they open up [1:39:03, 1:39:07]: If we have them down is open up the uh award uh the account. [1:39:07, 1:39:27]: So otherwise your your your what you're asking for is is the increase is going to be uh up to two hundred dollars for everybody across the board. Period. Everybody across the board. No matter That's what you're asking. Not just renters, but everybody. And and and if that say that's approved, then do we have to change uh do you say we have to change the ordinance in the process? We can I can uh we can we have the [1:39:27, 1:39:38]: city um city attorney um here forward uh one second please let me just change the language okay change okay um i believe stand by miss barber mr blanc go ahead please [1:39:39, 1:39:40]: Thank you, Mayor. Um [1:39:41, 1:39:46]: I don't have a problem with everybody paying a deposit instead of singing out a certain group. [1:39:47, 1:39:53]: But if we change from one fifty to two hundred,'cause it's been a deposit, so at some point in time this could be refunded back. [1:39:53, 1:39:54]: Is that correct? [1:39:55, 1:40:00]: Uh and since changing from one fifty to two hundred dollars. [1:40:01, 1:40:05]: Because we're gonna be doing we we do billing write offs every year. [1:40:06, 1:40:10]: You think that's gonna show a decrease in building right offs or increase? It's it's [1:40:11, 1:40:17]: It's gonna show a d a a a a decrease. How is it? Uh well we'll be able to probably uh [1:40:18, 1:40:32]: get more money with the with the with the extra fifty dollars on some of the other uh uh not just the renters but the homeowners too as well as investment company. See we only able to uh take the the take the deposit from the renters. [1:40:32, 1:40:39]: It it don't it's only gonna show the cost to the write-offs, not the write-off itself. Because if if you're writing me off. [1:40:40, 1:40:45]: And I paid two hundred dollars, then I'll be that goes into the kitty for [1:40:45, 1:40:49]: The totality of the bill, the total bill. [1:40:49, 1:40:51]: To to your beal. [1:40:51, 1:41:03]: But the reasoning for deposits is not to put a pot for everybody else. It's for you to have in there for y if you leave. You see what I'm saying? I'm just trying to figure out increasing fifty dollars. [1:41:04, 1:41:05]: I I just don't see [1:41:06, 1:41:12]: And I understand that other people and it's that that may be an another antiquated piece to the charter that I've been talking about. [1:41:13, 1:41:15]: But doing that I just don't see how [1:41:15, 1:41:25]: Oh well and this this and then and then I think this is a a good time for the change because the one fifty has been on y you've been charging one fifty at least ten years. [1:41:25, 1:41:26]: So [1:41:26, 1:41:27]: Uh [1:41:29, 1:41:49]: Just trying to as we did the study with the rest of the sister cities are in Henry County, everybody has moved to to has moved to their uh fifty dollar increase at least uh two or three years ago. And we're the only one that's that's lagging behind. And I feel now that that will help us out in in in [1:41:49, 1:41:50]: Uh [1:41:50, 1:41:52]: Uh, keeping some of the cost down. [1:41:52, 1:41:55]: S when when people decide that I'm not gonna pay. [1:41:56, 1:42:00]: anymore. We'd be able to charge, we'd be able to apply that to to their account. [1:42:01, 1:42:09]: And I get what you're saying. But but for me it's a it's a timing thing for me. You y you see what I'm saying? Because [1:42:10, 1:42:12]: We've got everything increasing. [1:42:12, 1:42:17]: on the budget. And I understand that you said this increase will help [1:42:17, 1:42:22]: in the long run because we're writing doing write offs and all of this thing when it comes to the building. [1:42:24, 1:42:25]: Right. [1:42:27, 1:42:34]: I I want us to ch go it go ahead and do what we gotta do to this antiquated charter and then when we make changes it's in line with the charter. [1:42:35, 1:42:55]: Not with do not that we're doing something that comes against the charter. Let's let's change the charter. And that's that's all I've been asking since I've been on this council. Well this will be part of one of the changes to that charter. To the uh if if you change the language saying instead of renters include everybody and then just I'm I'm I'm for every I'm I'm I'm act I'm for [1:42:54, 1:43:07]: for everybody paying a deposit for water. I I'm for that. Mhm. I just don't see how fifty fifty dollar increase gonna change anything. I just don't but I'm not the expert in that area, so [1:43:07, 1:43:27]: If you think it will then because we don't we don't make it too expensive. You can't shoot it up to three hundred some three fifty. You wanna keep it right in line with everybody else or what they're doing. I think Mr. Aaron wanna I guess home in on that. What's coming up next. We're we're still we're still discussing it. [1:43:27, 1:43:30]: Yeah. [1:43:30, 1:43:40]: One of the things, like I say, we'll be talking about this coming up at the next agenda item, but the average water bill and stock bridge is about sixty-one dollars and twenty cents a month. [1:43:40, 1:44:00]: Mm. So you raise it a two hundred dollars. So that means that's three water bills that you collect if that person defaults.'Cause most of the time the person that skips out, they're already two months behind when they cut they're cut off and they skip out. So then you you left with the two hundred dollars to try to recoup what that person owes, but [1:44:00, 1:44:04]: But if you raise it to two hundred dollars, then that's three [1:44:04, 1:44:24]: Three months and a little change of of what their water bill. Are we allowing are we allowing people to go three months behind? No, I say if they when we had the pandemic and during the current thing, most time when people are cut off, they're like two months behind. So so if you're cut off at two months behind, that means we're still in a we we we still got'em because th they [1:44:24, 1:44:33]: you know, that's if you say average water be a s let's just say sixty five dollars. That's a hundred and thirty dollars. So we still at uh we still twenty dollars on them. [1:44:34, 1:44:39]: But I mean the the the deposit of one fifty covers two month bill, what I'm saying. [1:44:40, 1:44:47]: Uh uh you know, because if we're not if we if we're looking at cutting people off at two months behind, hundred and fifty dollars will cover the average bill. [1:44:48, 1:44:49]: And then some [1:44:50, 1:44:57]: But uh d then you gotta look at the ancillary costs as well, you know, preparing the notices, sending people out. It's it's more than just [1:44:58, 1:45:12]: you know, you cut their bill off after two months and they leave, but there's other costs associated with that as well, administrative costs. And we're just trying to ensure that by having a substantial deposit, you would hope people would [1:45:12, 1:45:30]: be more proactive in paying their bills, but if they skip out against the city recourse, so you don't have that forty one thousand dollars you right now, y you might reduce it by ten percent. But you're trying to cause the cities are not like George Power and the previous municipality I worked at that [1:45:30, 1:45:38]: If a renter skipped out, then the homeowners was responsible for paying that bill and you didn't re-establish service at that address to that. [1:45:38, 1:45:52]: back balance was a paid, that's how George Power does. If you had someone had a service there, you owned it, there was a renter, then they're gonna go out to the owner to pay that. But we're just trying to ensure that this number doesn't keep escalating that people are not paying bills. [1:45:52, 1:45:59]: Yeah, you know, but I'm just saying because whatever we charge for deposit. [1:46:00, 1:46:09]: That goes everywhere though. That goes to an extra increase for people trying to put a deposit down for apartments. Uh it it it just goes everywhere. So I mean if but if [1:46:10, 1:46:30]: And most of most of the most of the most of the individuals are on payment plans also that that accumulates on to maybe being two months behind two. So then once you once you apply to 200, most of the time if you apply to 200, you'll be close to where mo a lot of these the rent like we're looking [1:46:30, 1:46:50]: That the rentals, a lot of whether the rentals are are are at around 200. So and this covers too, like so if someone has a water leak, because there are several people, you know, you get a water bill of$2,000, they adjust it, they make adjustments, then that individual gets on a payment plan because you don't want them to incur a hardship. They might be paying ten dollars a month or$20 a month. [1:46:50, 1:47:10]: A month towards that bill. And if they decide to skip out, they owe$1,000. But they had a payment plan. They were making those payments, but they left. And so now you're sitting there with that$10,000 bill. So either you're going to eat$800 of it or you're going to eat$8,000. [1:47:10, 1:47:27]: fifty or nine hundred. So you do have those situations. For me, because you all the professionist, you tell you said talking like you know what you're talking about. Okay. I'm fine. Mayor Pro Tem go ahead please. Mayor for I I move to approve. Second. Okay. Mr. Plump second down. Okay. All further please indicate. [1:47:28, 1:47:34]: That's what I was raising my hand for from the very beginning to make the motion. So we can move along. [1:47:34, 1:47:48]: Thank you. I appreciate your your acceptance of that. All right, thank you, gentlemen. All right. Press 30. Water and sewer rate increase ordinance. Council consideration approved the ordinance presented by Mr. Aaron, please. [1:47:49, 1:48:08]: Yes, Mr. Mayor. Over the past several years we've been taking a look at our what our water and sewer rate structure is. And we reviewed the past audits. And one of the things we have a loan with GIFA that requires us to maintain a certain debt service coverage ratio. And we've noticed over the couple of years we've [1:48:09, 1:48:29]: not met that requirement. And one of the things in our loan with GIFA, it allows them, if the city doesn't subset their rates sufficiently, GIFA can go in and raise the rates to meet that debt service coverage ratio to ensure that we're healthy enough to pay back this debt that we owe. So we had Carter [1:48:29, 1:48:49]: And Sloop, one of our consultant engineers, prepare a rate study, a rate analysis for the next five years so that they show us how we ensure that we meet our GIFA loan requirement, which is a debt service ratio, I think 1.1. So I'll let Mr. Pedon, this is Chad Peaton with the stock and with uh Carter and Sloop consultant. [1:48:49, 1:48:50]: Mm-hmm. [1:48:50, 1:49:10]: So you shouldn't have this city. Can I ask your question? Before you leave, but but every time that the county raised the percentage of tax uh uh rate percentage up, the city did it as well. So that that kept us still out of comp compliance on what this needed to be? Yes, because if the c if the county raises theirs three percent, the city normally does the car. [1:49:10, 1:49:22]: corresponding three percent, but there's other increased costs like chemical treatments for your water. There's power costs like recently I read George Power is proposing a 14% increase. So [1:49:22, 1:49:42]: We're using electricity to pump water out of the ground and send water to our customers. So is that you can't buy it and sell it for the same cost and not incur a loss. Yeah, but what would this do in comparison to what we're already doing? So I'll let Mr. Pedon speak to that. That's what is required. [1:49:42, 1:49:54]: Four speaks to Thank you, Mr. I'm sorry, what's your name, sir? I'm sorry. Uh Chad Peedon, sir. Chad Peterson? Pedon, P E D E N, yes sir. Pedon, okay, Chad. Okay, good go ahead please. [1:49:54, 1:50:14]: Yeah, good afternoon, Council Mayor. Uh thank you for the opportunity to work on this. Uh as Mr. Aaron mentioned, we looked at the rates over the the uh past four years and what we found was that the cost recovery ratio was actually trending towards below one. And so what that means is that your expenses are exceeding your revenues. [1:50:14, 1:50:34]: And uh at that point, you would not have a sustainable enterprise. And so running a utility, you have to have a sustainable enterprise. And as Mr. Aaron mentioned, having a GIFA loan, um, one slight correction is they require operating ratio of 1.05 rather than 1.1. And so to ensure we meet [1:50:33, 1:50:47]: that what we've done is we've looked at uh your expenses, your revenues, did a projection out through 2026 and 2027 to uh ensure that we don't [1:50:48, 1:50:50]: That we don't um [1:50:51, 1:51:06]: increase the uh utility rates any more than we need to. And so with the sensitivity to the uh ratepayers of the city to make sure that they're only footing what is needed to make sure that this utility Yes sir. Yes ma'am [1:51:08, 1:51:08]: I'm sorry. [1:51:10, 1:51:16]: Okay. I believe you can still present. I guess we gotta wait till uh we get a quorum to vote, is that correct? [1:51:20, 1:51:20]: I would imagine [1:51:21, 1:51:22]: Cade, right? [1:51:23, 1:51:25]: Go ahead and continue on, sir. Yes, sir. [1:51:26, 1:51:46]: So what we've um proposed is is a uh custom increase with the uh end goal of of having a operating ratio of one point one. And so uh what we've looked at is increasing the current base charges are are lower than the actual cost that it takes to go out and service the meter, read the meter. [1:51:46, 1:52:06]: Send a truck out there, all of that. And so what we propose is to increase that base rate. And so that's money, regardless of what waters used, that's money that the city would collect. And then we also have an in uh cost per thousand gallons. And so what we've done to promote conservation of the case. [1:52:06, 1:52:26]: Of water is we've actually bracketed those. Zero to four thousand, each cost per thousand would be the same. And then as the uh the resident uses four thousand to nine thousand, they would actually pay a higher rate per thousand because they're having more of an impact on the system. And then anything beyond uh nine thousand. [1:52:26, 1:52:45]: Gallons would be at an even higher rate. One thing that we did consider, y'all have a about seven industrial customers, water customers. You have four of those industrial customers actually are water and sewer. And so what we proposed is that that they have a um [1:52:45, 1:53:05]: a uniform block structure and so rather that increasing rate because typically with a industrial customer they cannot control the amount of water that they use. It's dictated by their process or their um whatever product they're producing. And so rather than putting a undue strain on them, we've uh suggested that they just have a [1:53:05, 1:53:25]: A typical block structure. So the rate. I'm sorry, because a typical block structure. A block structure, yes, sir. And so what that means is that their cost per thousand gallons from uh zero to ten thousand gallons is uniform with whatever they use. And so that rather than with the residential customer. [1:53:25, 1:53:45]: So it's like a reduced rate based on the quantity, I guess. Quantity? [1:53:45, 1:53:57]: they can't really conserve water because their water is going into their product or used to make their product or for their cooling or heating systems. And so they ri that's really outside of any conservation that they can do. [1:53:57, 1:54:06]: All right. I think that's a good thing. Go ahead. When when you're calculating this and you said that that you want to be in that ratio of one try to get it w what one point one. [1:54:06, 1:54:21]: But if you're falling around one or or below, is that just for this area of consumption revenue, uh or is it just the overall budgeting for this particular area? I'm just that's what I'm trying to understand. Are you just doing are you just dealing with the consumption revenue? [1:54:21, 1:54:31]: What what we were uh our goal was to make sure that the water enterprise operated at a one point one and the sewer enterprise operated at a one point one individually. [1:54:32, 1:54:42]: So you're breaking those two off? Yes, sir. Okay. And so that that way one is isn't subsidized by the other. Okay. W so which one is falling the lower? Is it the [1:54:42, 1:54:56]: The water has been below one and the sewer is actually trending to go below one. And so it's only calculated from consump from water consumption and usage, not with anything else pertaining to the budget for those areas, right? [1:54:56, 1:55:00]: It it's it's specific to the water and sewer fund. Okay, got okay. [1:55:09, 1:55:28]: So we've made a a recommendation for an increase in these rates. That is shown on page 23 and 24. It is actually called the the custom increase. We gave three different options. We we worked with staff and and determined that that custom option was the best. Um [1:55:30, 1:55:50]: Mr. Aaron mentioned that the the average customer uses around four thousand gallons a day and that's around uh current billing around sixty one dollars a month for water and sewer. And so in an interest to to not negatively impact the residents, what we've done is we've uh as I mentioned had have that increasing [1:55:49, 1:55:59]: uh cost per thousand. And so with this rate increase, your average customer's monthly bill would increase about five dollars, so less than ten percent. [1:55:59, 1:56:05]: So otherwise be roughly sixty five dollars a month. Yes, sir. Six sixty six. Sixty six, okay. Yes, okay. [1:56:06, 1:56:06]: All right. [1:56:15, 1:56:16]: Yeah. [1:56:16, 1:56:36]: It's m Mr. Aaron, so so with this is this saying that we we would control what percentage increase versus the county coming in and we're matching that. Is that what this is trying that's that what we're trying to do? Oh council member Blount, uh actually one recommendation that we've made is that any increase that y'all receive from Henry County has to be [1:56:36, 1:56:40]: passed on. [1:56:40, 1:56:51]: Right, right. Yeah, if they increase three percent, then if we don't pa if we don't do it, then we're paying it from budget to suffice it. So but I'm s that's why I'm saying with this [1:56:52, 1:56:54]: Are we able to implement? [1:56:55, 1:57:00]: hours or we still waiting on the'cause we're doing that anyway. I'm just I'm trying to figure this out. [1:57:00, 1:57:04]: why we're doing this because we're doing the that anyway. If we're not [1:57:05, 1:57:07]: Setting our only increase. [1:57:07, 1:57:08]: From the city. [1:57:09, 1:57:14]: Then why we need this if we're setting the increase from what the county gives? That's what I'm trying to figure out. [1:57:15, 1:57:16]: You see what I'm saying, Mr. Aaron? [1:57:18, 1:57:32]: Well if if the rate if we change the ordinance for the rate, are we able to implement the rate? Because most of the citizens are getting their waters from the county. So if the county doesn't set their they don't set their rate to us, we set our rate to them. [1:57:33, 1:57:53]: So then what is this how are we what is this or how So what what the city has been doing, the ordinance says that whenever Heron County raises their rates, the city will raise theirs the same amount. Right. So we're actually saying we're gonna buy it and sell it for the same thing, and that's why we're operating at a loss. [1:57:53, 1:58:13]: Because you can't buy it and sell it for the same rate, because there are some ancillary costs we have that are independent of Henry County, like when Georgia Power raises their rates on electricity, when our chemical supplier who supplies the water treatment chemicals and steward treatment chemicals raises their rates. [1:58:13, 1:58:29]: then that's gotta be accounted for. And that's why we're sliding below that one point one percent because we've absorbed all the cost. So so I get you now. So you're saying if they raise this three percent, we may need four or five percent. [1:58:30, 1:58:40]: Yes. Instead of matching their percentage. You you you can't buy it and sell it. When I worked for an entity and mayor out mayor pro team always said [1:58:40, 1:59:00]: You know, you can't buy it and sell it for the same thing. And he always used an analogy. Some guy went to buy a load of watermelons for a dollar. He came back and sold them for a dollar. So I didn't make any money. He didn't realize he had other costs. He couldn't buy it and sell it for the same thing. And that's what we've been doing. We just been it's been a pass-through. If Henry County was three percent, we was three percent. If there was two percent, we was two percent. [1:59:00, 1:59:14]: two percent and that doesn't take into account, you know, employee cost, you know, we've been given a three percent cost of living raise. So all of those employees get a three percent and that cuts into that two percent debt. [1:59:15, 1:59:35]: You raise your rate. Do we have something that's showing what in the past what our loss have been by just matching funds and not putting an increase on that we needed to suffice whatever we needed to do? We can do card and sloop or you have anything we an when they did the analysis of the previous budgets, that's what this information and this rate structure. [1:59:35, 1:59:37]: [7177.9, 7197.9]: Yeah, but I didn't see I didn't see the loss in anything that would have been th that I I didn't see that that that in okay, if the I didn't see where we would say if we had done two percent more, we wouldn't have had this loss. I didn't see nothing like that in there. W we didn't specifically pull that out, what the pass through called. [1:59:57, 2:00:00]: elsewhere, we looked at the budget as a whole. [2:00:02, 2:00:19]: Okay. But when we work on increases we need to see what we need to see w what gives validity to all of this by seeing the numbers. If if we saying that we're such a substantial loss if we don't do it, then hey, let's go ahead and make it happen. But if we don't see anything that says [2:00:20, 2:00:21]: Yeah, let's m let's do it this way. [2:00:22, 2:00:25]: Then we're just in a place where we're putting in an increase. [2:00:26, 2:00:28]: Uh we own but we don't know. [2:00:28, 2:00:31]: You know what I'm saying? If if you all know, that's fine. [2:00:31, 2:00:35]: But I have nothing to look at myself and say, Yeah, we we definitely need to make this happen. [2:00:36, 2:00:50]: None of that was in the in in there. You you you see what I'm saying? I can I can provide mayor and council with the s spreadsheet of the budgets over the last what the revenues were, what the expenses were. That's that's what we used. We Well that would help. We budgeted [2:00:51, 2:01:04]: one point nine million, then we were saying that our expenses was gonna be one point nine, but the expenses might have been two point one or something. So W well here's the thing. Approving this tonight is not approving a rate. We're just saying we're able to do it. [2:01:05, 2:01:13]: And so if you bring that to us and then we can still approving this tonight doesn't say we're going to do it. We ate we have the ability to do it. That's all this is saying. [2:01:13, 2:01:15]: 'Cause there's no rate on here. [2:01:15, 2:01:27]: So if we approve it tonight, then we don't have to just match. We can go above it if need be. And if you show us that is a need for it, we can make it happen because it'll be a new ordinance to do it. Is that what are you saying? Is that what you understand this to be or not? [2:01:28, 2:01:38]: There are proposed rates in here for the next five years, what the water and sewer rates need to be for the next five years in order to ensure that we remain at that one point one. [2:01:39, 2:01:40]: No, I didn't see that. [2:01:41, 2:01:42]: It's all [2:01:44, 2:02:04]: Is this page 23-24 you're talking about? Y yes, sir. That's correct. Page 23-24. One other point within the scope of our work was to provide a uh rate evaluation model. And so we've actually built a spreadsheet. We're going to work with Mr. Aaron and his staff on how to use it. And so what he'll be able to do is when y'all get an increase. [2:02:04, 2:02:13]: From Henry County, he can actually modify that input in the model and then it it will spit out what the rates need to be to be sufficient. [2:02:14, 2:02:14]: Okay. [2:02:16, 2:02:17]: Point y you uh got it, Ms. Blount? [2:02:18, 2:02:20]: Twenty three, twenty four of the presentation. [2:02:21, 2:02:29]: Yes. Okay. On this chart, you wanted me to decipher that on these charts here? [2:02:42, 2:02:45]: See on this ch on these charts you don't give a [2:02:46, 2:02:48]: І сіром say not. [2:02:48, 2:03:08]: You y it may make sense to you guys, but it to break it down and look at what was needed for an increased percentage, if Henry County gave three percent, if we had done a four percent, that would have put us a certain place. That that's what I'm saying. These charts don't show that. That's that's what I mean. But if you give me what you said, Mr Aaron, about about breaking it down [2:03:08, 2:03:14]: for me showing me what could have happened, you know, if we've done those things in the past. [2:03:15, 2:03:16]: I would definitely appreciate that. [2:03:18, 2:03:19]: Because this doesn't do it. [2:03:20, 2:03:22]: I mean if you show me [2:03:22, 2:03:23]: Where it does, I'll be [2:03:24, 2:03:25]: More than appreciative to see it. [2:03:31, 2:03:35]: If you will look at uh page twenty [2:03:36, 2:03:37]: Twenty? Yes, sir. [2:03:49, 2:04:09]: The chart at the top shows the the water operating revenue and expenses per year. And so you can see the subject period from 2016 to 21. And so what we use is a trend and increases. If you look at that blue line, that's the operating cost. And so assumed bundled within there are increases from [2:04:09, 2:04:23]: Henry County Water Authority. We don't know exactly what Henry County will increase their wholesale rates by, but what we did is we assumed that they would be proportionate to whatever those increases were from 2016 to 2021. [2:04:23, 2:04:30]: And that's specific to water. The the second table, the sewer, um, i is not impacted by that water rate. [2:04:31, 2:04:38]: So you're saying the trends for operating expenses are going up, but the operating cost hasn't caught up with it. Is that what you're saying? Yes, sir. [2:04:50, 2:05:00]: Anything else to Ms. Blount? Yeah, where now give me the page that shows that uh table of increase that you guys are saying that goes along with the uh that would go along with the ordinance. [2:05:03, 2:05:05]: Twenty three and twenty four. [2:05:06, 2:05:08]: That's table four thirteen, is that correct? [2:05:10, 2:05:11]: Yes, sir. Okay. [2:05:29, 2:05:38]: So the first column what year is that? [2:05:39, 2:05:40]: Yes, sir. [2:05:42, 2:05:43]: Through twenty twenty seven. [2:05:53, 2:05:54]: Okay. [2:06:01, 2:06:03]: So you're saying this is what's needed? [2:06:04, 2:06:14]: Because I'm looking at uh when you talk about I'm looking at table thirteen as a that increase option. So in seven uh [2:06:16, 2:06:19]: In five years the max it could go up is uh [2:06:21, 2:06:37]: Uh look like roughly six dollars and forty two cents in seven ye in five years. Off of that table. Th that would be the biggest charge. Off that table with that, uh I'm gonna I'm gonna back off uh I'm gonna back off of that because [2:06:39, 2:06:42]: It it goes off of the the different [2:06:45, 2:07:05]: It changes. That's only the small on the lower end, but it changes as we go down with the something because it uh look like it could go from um the base if the base is fifteen uh you can go as uh up as much as tw um twelve dollars and three cents in five years. So it's not a substantial [2:07:05, 2:07:14]: increase on it. So you're looking at if the if the county does if the county does three percent, then we're probably only looking at maybe a half percent or one percent more. [2:07:16, 2:07:17]: So [2:07:18, 2:07:20]: This rate is [2:07:20, 2:07:40]: Independent of what the county does. This rate is just saying what the city needs to do on their behalf to ensure that these utilities remain financially viable, that they're paying for themselves. And we stay above the water line. We stay we stay above. If the county raises theirs three percent, we don't take that into account. [2:07:40, 2:07:50]: We take into account what our rates need for. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. But but we have to wait on the counter to implement their rate first. But Because we can't because then we'll have our citizens operate with [2:07:51, 2:08:00]: With the county see what I'm saying? No. We have to wait on them or or we can implement the array. We're we're projecting what the city needs to [2:08:01, 2:08:14]: What the rates need to be for the city water and sewage system to pay for themselves and not go in the hole because So this'll be at the end of every year we'll implement that rate what you're saying. Yes. For the following year. All right. [2:08:16, 2:08:25]: Even if the county doesn't do an increase, we'll implement that rate every year. To my remain financially viable. Okay. All right. Okay. Okay, we're good? [2:08:25, 2:08:41]: Yeah. Thanks. No problem. It just looked like a job blessed. All right. So on that note, uh if no other questions for uh Mr. Aaron okay, I need a motion to accept this uh increase incremental increase over the next five years. [2:08:42, 2:08:43]: Uh so mobile. [2:08:43, 2:08:46]: Okay. Okay, Mr. Blount we made the motion. Is there a second? [2:08:48, 2:08:49]: Mm. [2:08:50, 2:08:54]: Okay, she's second that okay. All in favor of this motion please indicate. [2:08:55, 2:09:00]: Okay, it passes. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it very much. Thank you, Mr. Mayor and Kill. Thank you. [2:09:02, 2:09:04]: Thanks for answering all those questions. [2:09:04, 2:09:24]: Council consideration approved the renewal of the city of Stockbridge on call sidework sidewalk replacement and repair contract with DFA concrete incorporated an amount of two hundred fifty thousand dollars. The funding source will be splot five. Mr. Please. Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. In 2018, the city had an assessment done of [2:09:24, 2:09:44]: their streets and one of the things council wanted was to have an assessment of the sidewalks done as well. So we had that and we're using it like we use our L Meg last year. DAF uh repaired or replaced over eleven thousand one hundred linear feet of sidewalks. We used the rating that was [2:09:44, 2:09:50]: was established in the streets and sidewalk assessment. So that's how we're going about [2:09:51, 2:10:09]: uh choosing the locations where we repair and replace sidewalks. So last year we s so far this year we spent over$260,000 repairing and replacing sidewalks. We did a large amount in Monarch Village. We did a lot in Windsong. We also did some in uh Summit View. [2:10:09, 2:10:29]: And so our goal is to next year do the same amount, just like with ALMIG, where we have a minimum of five miles. We want to have a minimum on the sidewalk replacement of at least 11,000 linear feet. You know, as as people are well aware, tripping hazards on sidewalks is one of the biggest things that goes on in the [2:10:29, 2:10:38]: in the community where residents are taking legal action against cities, but we want to be proactive and ensure that we maintain our sidewalks in a safe manner. [2:10:39, 2:10:59]: Yeah. All right, mist standby please sir. Mr Aaron, so how does this how does this play into the our new streets that we're going to receive on one January? What what we're doing I had a conversation with Mr Gardner is that if like the subdivisions where some are in the city, somewhere in the county now that they're coming into the city, we assume that [2:10:59, 2:11:19]: they all would have the same conditions on roads and sidewalks. So we will gradually start working those in, but we've already identified the locations because the spots were approved for specific areas of the city. So we're working through that. And so we'll start on the new areas in 2024. That's our goal. [2:11:19, 2:11:28]: We've already identified the streets for 2024 and the sidewalks for 2024 that we're gonna repair. So after that, then we'll start. [2:11:28, 2:11:48]: having a new evaluation done and then incorporating the new areas into that evaluation. So otherwise if I understand right, twenty twenty three is right on the corner, these new streets are getting get into rotation in twenty twenty four because you already got things planned for twenty twenty three right now. And we and we've got to do an assessment of the the new areas. We've uh calculated we've uh increased [2:11:48, 2:12:08]: Our road mileage by 61 miles. So our previous, we're at 106 miles, so we'll go up to 167 miles. Per year. We'll go up total roads that we'll have in the city is 167 miles. So we're going to have to do another assessment to incorporate the new roads and sidewalks into the city's inventory. [2:12:08, 2:12:08]: Sure. [2:12:09, 2:12:20]: And you have a specific date which you plan to finish that assessment? Well, the assessment was done in two thousand eighteen. It's normally five years. So late twenty twenty three we'll start a new assessment. [2:12:21, 2:12:23]: All right, thank you. Mr. Black, please. [2:12:24, 2:12:44]: Thank you, Mr. Aaron. I think it was um twenty nineteen. Mayor Ford, I asked that you look to the left. Um I I will do so. I keep raising my hand and you just keep ignoring me, so I'll just chime in. Well, no, not chime in right now. I'm giving it to Mr. Blount. I'll get you next. Thank you very much. Mayor Blount. Okay, remember to do that this time, please. [2:12:44, 2:12:49]: Mr. Blair, you said what now, sir? I yield if she wants to talk first. He yields. Go ahead, Miss Barber. [2:12:51, 2:13:01]: My question is, Mr Aaron, there's a separate contract for the L Mag list and the sidewalk repairs. Why is this needed? [2:13:01, 2:13:21]: Well, the thing with LMIG is put out every year because G DOT requires us to do that, to receive those funds from G DOT. We have to bid it out. But with this, we started out when we had some damaged sidewalks in the city that were beyond what public works staff could do. There was long stretch. [2:13:21, 2:13:41]: Stretches of sidewalks. There were sidewalks that weren't put in the subdivisions when they were developed. And this was a quicker, more efficient way to address some concerns, some safety concerns. So other cities use it, City of Hampton uses it, other municipalities, because sometimes it's easier to lease or rent a skill than to [2:13:41, 2:13:58]: employer skill. But with DAF, we've been able to do like I said, eleven thousand one hundred feet. That's over two miles of of sidewalk maintenance. We've done for a reasonable cost and it was quick and it was efficient. And also a lot of time they're more effective at [2:13:59, 2:14:19]: securing concrete than we are because a lot of times the concrete manufacturers they don't want to come deliver two yards of concrete, but they'll come out for 20 or 30 yards, which they're doing. So it's been more economical for us and also got projects moving along a lot faster than if we were trying to do it ourselves in-house. [2:14:19, 2:14:20]: No, I meant [2:14:21, 2:14:31]: We have a current contractor to handle all of the projects on the LMI list, right? This is a separate contract. This is a separate contract. Okay. [2:14:32, 2:14:43]: Why do we need a separate one? Can we not use our current contractor? No, ma'am, because LMAs, they're they're mainly into resurfacing roads. They don't do sidewalks. Gotcha. Thank you, sir. [2:14:45, 2:15:05]: Mr. Aaron, I thank you for your presentation. One of the things I think it was three or four years when we was doing the LMAG list and I came to you all and asked, because we kept getting a lot of phone calls about sidewalks, could the city itself do sidewalk analysis on this the same way LMAG, but we do it for sidewalks. And when you all started doing [2:15:05, 2:15:08]: [8108.9, 8128.9]: We got LMAG for the roads and we put this aside uh each year and we're looking at doing sidewalks, which we'll get a lot of phone calls about. So I thank you all for the great work that you all uh have been doing uh with this. Um and so this$250,000 and as you stated, we it was like$260 something last year. [2:15:28, 2:15:41]: But we're actually providing a service to the citizen repairing these sidewalks that need to be repaired. And so I just wanna uh I like to if Mr. uh um Thomas doesn't have anything to say, I'd like to go ahead and make a motion. [2:15:41, 2:15:42]: Two steps. [2:15:42, 2:15:57]: I'd like to make a motion to approve the uh renewal of the seat of stockbridge on call sidewalk replacement. Uh is there a second? Uh Mr Mayor Protein second that okay. All in flavor, please indicate. All right, you nanown decision. Thank you, Mr. Aaron. Thank you, Mr. Mayor and Council. [2:15:59, 2:16:03]: Okay, council consideration approved city events calendar. [2:16:04, 2:16:08]: says Miss Jordan on here, but she's okay. I guess uh Mr Gardner's gonna do this, all right? [2:16:14, 2:16:34]: Good evening, Mayor. Um before you guys and part of your package, you have the twenty twenty-three events calendar, um, which includes um some of the dates as well as uh budgeted um times, locations, and brief description of the events that are planned for twenty city events that are planned for twenty twenty three. [2:16:34, 2:16:40]: And there are fifteen of those events planned over the course of the year. [2:16:41, 2:16:46]: Okay, council, any questions for Mr. Gardner? Yes sir, go ahead please. [2:16:47, 2:17:07]: Uh I have a couple of motions if I may. Um not necessarily questions. Okay. Um I did some research on the uh bridge fest schedule um with Mrs. Jordan. [2:17:07, 2:17:23]: My motion is to move the bridge fest date from September the twenty-third to September the thirtieth. Um [2:17:25, 2:17:32]: 'Cause presently it's it it it's it's a conflict uh with the uh amphitheater. [2:17:34, 2:17:35]: Oh, I didn't know really? [2:17:35, 2:17:36]: Yes. [2:17:36, 2:17:37]: Hmm. [2:17:37, 2:17:57]: And also I'd like to motion uh for a l a lateral leeway uh in this schedule, even with I know we're not on the council initiative, but uh some leeway to be able to adjust some of these dates uh where [2:17:57, 2:18:05]: Where um conflicts may appear. But at this time, I think this is the only conflict that I know of. [2:18:06, 2:18:19]: And I think it's easier for us to move bridge fest'cause there we have not incurred, uh, to my knowledge, any expenses where I think some things have maybe um [2:18:20, 2:18:32]: put in place for uh for the amphitheater. And Mrs. Jordan is she's not here, so I I guess we can't get too deep into that conversation, but um [2:18:34, 2:18:43]: Well, okay. If you wanna make okay, if you make so you're making a motion that uh that you wanna change this from the twent brief to the twenty third to the thirty. The thirty, yes. I mean, okay, so is there a second to the motion? [2:18:46, 2:18:51]: There again, one of the things that we talked about if we're gonna do certain things and make changes [2:18:52, 2:18:58]: I I what is it? I have no city manager that do you know the nobody seems to know what conflict that is. [2:18:59, 2:19:00]: Oh do you know the conflict? [2:19:00, 2:19:03]: No, sir. Do you mayor? No, no, it's the first I've heard of it. [2:19:03, 2:19:04]: I have [2:19:04, 2:19:16]: Okay, but I uh well okay. Let me let me s let me mention this, let me throw this out here too, just out of curiosity. It does say seven PM to eleven PM for Bridgefest. For some strange reason I thought Bridgefest was an all day affair. [2:19:18, 2:19:22]: The British vests I recalled were for all day. [2:19:23, 2:19:24]: She's seven PM. [2:19:24, 2:19:32]: No, Bridgefest started early during the day. Right, during the day. This is seven PM d it's only a nighttime event. But I thought Bridgefest was all day long. [2:19:35, 2:19:36]: Is that not [2:19:38, 2:19:53]: Foo for food for thought. That's what I thought. Mayor Four it indicates here from seven PM to eleven PM. Yeah, but what I'm getting at, Mayor Pro Tem, previous years has been all all all day. [2:19:53, 2:20:01]: At least I I don't know why the this time frame is I have no idea, sir. That's why I'm just making I can check with with with staff on the time. That's not a problem. [2:20:03, 2:20:11]: But you are right. I think it's it's longer than it starts thinking around twelve or one o'clock. Yeah, twelve or one o'clock in the afternoon. People come out all day. I'll double check on the time. Yeah, okay. [2:20:16, 2:20:27]: Uh well so otherwise I guess Mr. Blount you're you're s making a suggestion that more information or or what you would staff look at previous concerts or previous events that we've had to see how they operate? [2:20:28, 2:20:29]: In terms of [2:20:30, 2:20:31]: Bridgeface. [2:20:33, 2:20:34]: I'm not clear. [2:20:35, 2:20:38]: Uh the the staff look at previous [2:20:40, 2:20:58]: way we've done these type events to know how they operate. Yeah, I would yes. That that's part of the staff. I know Kim hadn't been here about a year, but I know she's worked with the Conywell and the rest of the staff when they sit down and go over the schedules, what's happened in the past and what needs to be done. Well if she was here we would probably answer the question. She's out sixer. [2:20:59, 2:21:19]: See, Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. See, one of the problems is the left hand don't know what the right hand is doing, and and that's a problem. And these things just need to be talked about, need to be coordinated uh before these schedules um come before the council. And I just inquired about this one. [2:21:19, 2:21:27]: because I saw the date and I just inquired, so I just took it upon myself to inquire. And that was the information that was told to me. [2:21:29, 2:21:31]: And and again [2:21:31, 2:21:33]: What is what is proposed here [2:21:34, 2:21:36]: And that's all we have to go on is what is proposed. [2:21:36, 2:21:38]: From seven PM [2:21:39, 2:21:41]: to eleven pm [2:21:41, 2:21:43]: That is what's been proposed. [2:21:44, 2:22:04]: Once again, I will check to make sure that that time is correct. Yeah, see see the British Fest concept of course is is uh crafts, arts, a lot of a lot of vendors, a lot of cultural type activities. It's just not uh since it's not using an amphitheater, you have a lot of different activities happening around the entire downtown area. I mean, in the past we've even had uh uh uh car shows, just [2:22:04, 2:22:12]: Judgment of car shows and and and actually I one year I had a talent show for young kids on during Bridge Fest, where the young kids got and sang and danced and performed. [2:22:12, 2:22:19]: And we have actually cut back on Bridge Fest. It was a two day event. It was at one time that's right. But uh we cut back on it but [2:22:20, 2:22:40]: These hours are not gonna work so Mayor Ford is it the desire of the council to uh table this item until we get um clarification. Well, I mean that's my thought. I I would think that do that. I would say so uh Ms. Thomas or do we just want to approve with [2:22:40, 2:22:51]: with uh this one particular date, uh giving ourselves options to um, you know, laterally move the time and the date. [2:22:53, 2:22:56]: What desires. Miss Barber, you have any desires here? [2:22:56, 2:22:57]: Um my [2:22:58, 2:23:07]: In in regards to brisface, I do agree. But I do have another question I want to ask about the grand opening of the Merrill Manders. [2:23:08, 2:23:15]: Mr. Wiggins, can you tell me what the cost of renovations to Merrill Manders was? What's the total cost? [2:23:16, 2:23:17]: Yeah. [2:23:18, 2:23:29]: Point of order, mayor. Okay, what's the point of order? This has point of order. This look at the agenda item. It's approval of the of the event schedule. [2:23:30, 2:23:34]: I know the generalists. What does it have to do with the cost of the marijuana? [2:23:35, 2:23:55]: Oh o rule. Let let it last let answer the question. Two hundred and seventy seven thousand. Okay. So we have here budgeted fifty thousand for the grand reopening of the mural manders. I don't agree with that. Um so if you all are looking to approve this entire twenty twenty-three events calendar, I don't support. [2:23:55, 2:24:01]: Such an event for a grand opening of the Merrill Manders Conference Center. [2:24:02, 2:24:04]: If we can remove that item [2:24:04, 2:24:22]: from the calendar, then I support moving forward with whatever changes you all suggest. Which which which which item is that? That's the very the very first item. Mm-hmm. The grand reopening of the Merr Manders Conference Center. Don't know where that came from for fifty thousand dollars. [2:24:22, 2:24:24]: I don't think that's for like any renovation though. [2:24:25, 2:24:32]: I'm sorry? It's not for renovation. I didn't say it was for renovation. Sorry. I asked a question about renovation because [2:24:33, 2:24:35]: The amount that we spent on renovations [2:24:35, 2:24:41]: He said two hundred over two hundred thousand dollars. And we're gonna spend another fifty thousand dollars just to celebrate. [2:24:42, 2:24:45]: The reopening of it, it makes no sense to me. [2:24:46, 2:24:49]: I ask that we remove that line from this calendar completely. [2:24:51, 2:24:52]: That's my suggestion. [2:24:55, 2:24:56]: All right. [2:24:58, 2:25:18]: So I think probably what probably might be the best thing, maybe if you motion to table this and bring we're already g now we're already gonna be on the twentieth,'cause we already got two items on the twentieth anyway. Uh so maybe we we have kind of we could if the council agrees to table this until the twentieth and kind of scrub back through this with some ideas and thoughts that that just came out from. I'm in I'm in agreement with this uh Oh you're in agreement? [2:25:18, 2:25:25]: I mean something council. Okay, okay. So you okay, well well I'll tell you what. I need a motion then. [2:25:25, 2:25:27]: Someone give me a motion so we move forward. [2:25:27, 2:25:31]: Mayor Ford, I'd like to make a motion to remove [2:25:31, 2:25:32]: Um [2:25:32, 2:25:44]: The first event on the twenty twenty three events calendar to remove the grand reopening of the Merrill Manders conference center with a budgeted amount of fifty thousand dollars. [2:25:44, 2:25:45]: Second. [2:25:46, 2:25:49]: Oh, I I don't know. Is that the only motion you want to make? [2:25:49, 2:25:55]: That is not the only motion I'm gonna make. Like if you allow me to move forward with this one. [2:25:56, 2:26:06]: Okay, is it you okay, we're gonna go to okay, are you second that motion, Mr. Blount? Yes. Okay, all in favor of the motion please indicate. All posed? Mr Meripro Tem you had some questions? [2:26:08, 2:26:14]: I guess the motion was on the tape. I guess it didn't get the second day. W no, s Mr Blount second it motion. [2:26:15, 2:26:16]: What was emotional? [2:26:16, 2:26:24]: Okay, I'm sorry. I missed that. You put you to the table the whole discussion. Was it but was it seconded? I don't think your motion was seconded though. [2:26:26, 2:26:27]: No, I don't think your motion was seconded. [2:26:28, 2:26:29]: Okay. [2:26:30, 2:26:40]: So the motion was seconded. So this one still presides. So this motion motion was made and seconded to remove this fifty thousand dollars for a grand opening of murrill matters. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [2:26:42, 2:26:56]: All opposed. Oh you agree, Ms. I I I agree, but uh my concern still is with uh it's gonna happen, sir. Stand by. I think that's what's gonna happen next. Okay, okay. She agrees. So otherwise that passes, so the grand opening comes off. Miss Barber, you had another motion? [2:26:59, 2:27:02]: I wanted to make a motion to table. [2:27:04, 2:27:07]: The calendar, this event's calendar. [2:27:07, 2:27:10]: As Mayor Pro Tem Thomas suggested. [2:27:11, 2:27:16]: All right. Um okay, second to the motion. All in favor, please indicate. [2:27:17, 2:27:27]: All right, fine. It's table. Now that means that this is going back on the December twentieth uh meeting then as well. Further discussion and scrubbing through this events calendar, the event staff. [2:27:34, 2:27:39]: Council consideration to our council initiative calendar presented by Miss Rosalind Rawls. [2:27:40, 2:27:54]: Please. Good evening, Mayor and Council. Evening. Um hopefully you had a chance to review your um twenty twenty three council mission. Would you mind speaking? Uh please, thank you. Yes. Okay. [2:27:54, 2:28:02]: Hope you've had a opportunity to um review the twenty twenty three council initiative proposed um calendar. [2:28:03, 2:28:08]: Um, we may have some adjustments that may meet need to be done uh during the year. [2:28:09, 2:28:14]: Um but this is the proposed um calendar unless you have any um questions or comments. [2:28:15, 2:28:16]: Council? [2:28:16, 2:28:17]: Yes, ma'am. [2:28:17, 2:28:21]: I do. There are several changes I'd like to see. [2:28:21, 2:28:24]: on the council initiative schedule for myself. Yes and ma'am. [2:28:25, 2:28:27]: And this is for the record. Okay. Um [2:28:28, 2:28:40]: The same as in twenty twenty two, the free Zumba sessions will begin in May of twenty twenty three at Clark Park, so you can remove [2:28:41, 2:28:41]: Olive. [2:28:42, 2:28:43]: The classes you have scheduled. [2:28:43, 2:28:45]: From January. [2:28:45, 2:28:46]: Until [2:28:46, 2:28:49]: The end of April. Remove them from the calendar. Okay. Duly note it. [2:28:51, 2:28:52]: The next one. [2:28:53, 2:28:59]: If you'll remove the blood drives that you have scheduled, I will schedule them on my own. [2:29:03, 2:29:04]: The next one. [2:29:05, 2:29:05]: Um [2:29:06, 2:29:11]: In regards to the annual kickball charity event. [2:29:12, 2:29:13]: I will determine [2:29:14, 2:29:15]: The non profit. [2:29:15, 2:29:17]: And or the cause. [2:29:17, 2:29:18]: That I want to [2:29:20, 2:29:20]: Sponsor. [2:29:21, 2:29:23]: So Hands of Hope Clinic was the inaugural. [2:29:25, 2:29:25]: Honoring. [2:29:26, 2:29:31]: It is a annual kickball charity event. [2:29:32, 2:29:35]: I'll determine who the benefactor will be. [2:29:36, 2:29:37]: Each year. [2:29:37, 2:29:41]: Okay, so I So you can remove Hands of Hope from the calendar. [2:29:42, 2:29:44]: I'll determine next year. [2:29:45, 2:29:48]: Who or what non profit or cause I will be. [2:29:49, 2:29:50]: Honoring. [2:29:50, 2:29:51]: Okay. [2:29:51, 2:29:54]: Those are all the changes I have. Thank you. I have them. Thank you. [2:29:55, 2:29:59]: Council, any other questions, concerns about the initiative calendar? [2:29:59, 2:30:07]: I've not had any motion to accept to revise calendar based on Ms. Barber's input here. So moved. Is there a second? [2:30:10, 2:30:11]: You have a second? [2:30:13, 2:30:13]: Second. [2:30:14, 2:30:15]: Mirable Tim seconds it. [2:30:16, 2:30:17]: Further discussion. [2:30:24, 2:30:26]: If no further discussion, all in favor, please indicate. [2:30:27, 2:30:29]: All right, pass as you know, so thank you, Ross. Thank you. [2:30:31, 2:30:33]: Okay. [2:30:35, 2:30:37]: Council consideration. [2:30:39, 2:30:44]: To appoint members of the planning commission presented by well, Mr. Washington's not here, so [2:30:45, 2:30:46]: His representative [2:30:47, 2:30:49]: Matter of fact, um [2:30:49, 2:30:51]: The next three items. [2:30:51, 2:30:58]: All deal with the appointments to a Planning Commission, youth council advisory committee and a Main Street Advisory Board. [2:30:59, 2:31:19]: So one of the questions I have off the top of my head is what is the number of slots that need to be filled? And once again, these are individuals that we want to appoint. So my my concern with whether or not we want to do this um right now or whether we wanna discuss this in a second session and come back and give the the the report. I may afford. [2:31:19, 2:31:20]: How you Yes ma'am. [2:31:20, 2:31:27]: So I wanted to and I I know Danielle's gonna come forward and s and speak on these uh appointments, there are a number [2:31:28, 2:31:28]: Oh [2:31:28, 2:31:30]: individuals that want to be [2:31:31, 2:31:37]: Reappointed um that are eligible for their boards. But what has happened over the last week or so? [2:31:38, 2:31:39]: With the new [2:31:40, 2:31:45]: residents that have come in. We are receiving a number of applications. Well that's great. [2:31:45, 2:31:46]: And [2:31:47, 2:31:49]: Uh in fairness to them. [2:31:50, 2:31:55]: Um, I was hoping that the mayor and council would extend the time to allow for additional [2:31:56, 2:31:58]: applications to come in before you all. [2:31:58, 2:31:59]: A point. [2:32:00, 2:32:04]: Also, the problem that we have run into is [2:32:04, 2:32:09]: is with the Citic Police and Citizen Advisory Council [2:32:10, 2:32:15]: We are receiving applications for those as well. As you know, in that policy. [2:32:16, 2:32:18]: The mayor and council appoint [2:32:18, 2:32:20]: And so does the chief. [2:32:20, 2:32:21]: So when we receive [2:32:22, 2:32:36]: applications for district two, which we've received a number of applications. Who will make that appointment? I don't know if that is a chief appointment or if that is a council member appointment. So we need to clarify a few things. [2:32:36, 2:32:40]: uh there and in addition to that [2:32:40, 2:32:42]: We have people that are applying for the [2:32:43, 2:32:56]: four or five different boards. And it's like which we have vacancies now on a number of boards. But when speaking with the um I forget who was on the call the other day, um [2:32:57, 2:33:01]: Whichever officer it was that was on the call the other day for our agenda meeting. [2:33:01, 2:33:03]: He's saying that the [2:33:04, 2:33:07]: citizen and police advisory council will not appoint until [2:33:07, 2:33:22]: in the first quarter. Not sure if that's genuine for February or March. So the question is these individuals who have applied for other boards, do you want to only be considered for the police citizen advisory or do you want to [2:33:22, 2:33:23]: Sink. [2:33:23, 2:33:43]: a position on one of these other boards. And because of all of that, I am requesting and recommending that you delay this until we kinda iron things out. Give a little more clarity. Um I'm sorry, sir. Do you have anything? I want to cover it after you click your gun. Well stand by. Stand by. [2:33:43, 2:34:03]: Yeah, Mayor President Williams, sir. Uh I was gonna wait until after your comments. If you had Well, I was gonna my comments were uh well, it makes good sense that I'm not recommendation, but my comments were in reference to the police uh academy that come out of certain districts. The counsel was myself. I would think that we'll get we can well I well my well I'll [2:34:03, 2:34:23]: think that we'll be able to select those individuals and whatever people come forward g and that district give it to that I think give it to that district representative, that council member and see whether or not they would want to appoint that individual if they didn't have anybody else in mind. Give them that first look. That's what I would think since we come out of district and and we gotta get used to this district thing now,'cause obviously we're not used to that, so we we it's now part of the process. [2:34:23, 2:34:39]: That's my nine necessary thoughts on that. And in addition to the Citizens Police Advisory Council, there is also a police academy application out there. Right. And the police are recommending that those individuals who apply for the [2:34:39, 2:34:43]: uh police advisory council, citizen police advisory council. [2:34:45, 2:34:46]: Do the police academy. [2:34:46, 2:34:52]: So it there's a lot, um, that's happening and um so I'm you know [2:34:52, 2:35:06]: Okay. The I will tell you that the one board that I do believe needs to have their appointments go in sooner rather than later would be the Planning Commission because I believe without that they may not have a quorum. [2:35:06, 2:35:17]: Okay, so the Planning Commission okay, we have so okay, so but we have people from the new the new residents who have also applied for the Planning Commission. [2:35:19, 2:35:19]: Okay. [2:35:19, 2:35:27]: Okay how do you have people from the new residence and they don't come into January? You can appoint them, they cannot be sworn in until that January meeting. [2:35:27, 2:35:47]: They won't be able to act until they're sworn in. Go ahead. Yeah, but it's it it it seems to me that if you have residents that haven't been waiting to see if they're gonna be a resident or not and have applied for us in w we're not in January yet and we the normal procedure is to appoint now. [2:35:48, 2:35:52]: That's been a normal procedure, so I and I and I and I I get it. [2:35:52, 2:36:01]: But they they have to wait two years before they can even be on this council though. No no, no. Well, on the council they're saying so there's a pro there's a procedure for everything we do. [2:36:02, 2:36:04]: In my opinion. [2:36:05, 2:36:08]: for everything that's out there expires December thirty first. [2:36:09, 2:36:12]: So the very next day they would be eligible. [2:36:12, 2:36:32]: Mayor. Yeah, go ahead, Mayor Potem. Uh go ahead, sir. Uh I I think it's only fair. Uh there were a number of town hall, as you may recall, and these are some of the items that we discussed. That's correct. With those potential new citizens coming in. And I think it would be a [2:36:32, 2:36:47]: a slap in their face and we sort of close that door on them at this point. So um I move to accept the um request and the recommendation by the city clerk. [2:36:47, 2:37:00]: I second. All right. Madam Clerk. So make sure we repeat it, make sure we get it, make sure this is what we wanna say. [2:37:00, 2:37:02]: 'Cause you weren't right in it to doubt the time. [2:37:03, 2:37:03]: So [2:37:04, 2:37:08]: Could you write it down and make and restate that to make sure we get the the right understanding here? [2:37:09, 2:37:13]: My question to the mayor and council would be what meeting did you [2:37:14, 2:37:16]: Point to move this [2:37:16, 2:37:33]: Well it it probably has it has to happen before the new the beginning of the new year. So once again it's it's another agenda item for the twentieth of December, I would think. Okay, so a number of applications are uh submitted in your book, uh your agenda book now. Any additional ones that come in we will forward to you as soon as they come in. [2:37:33, 2:37:53]: Okay. Thank you. The but okay, but that that the twentieth, all right. I would think the twentieth would have to be it. Uh at least uh yeah, and then of course anybody well any b once even it's on the twentieth, everybody's gonna get sworn in a new part of the year anyway, no matter whether you're old resident or new residents. [2:37:53, 2:37:55]: [9475.9, 9476.5]: That's great. [2:37:57, 2:37:58]: And that's fine. [2:37:59, 2:38:06]: All of those all board appointments or all board positions that expire at the end of December. [2:38:08, 2:38:09]: This time. [2:38:09, 2:38:13]: Um we only have one board that is crucial that we [2:38:13, 2:38:17]: uh move forward with the appointment and that is the planning commission. [2:38:17, 2:38:21]: And if we can fill any vacancies on the planning commission. [2:38:22, 2:38:23]: By the end of [2:38:23, 2:38:24]: January. [2:38:25, 2:38:26]: Then we should be fine. [2:38:27, 2:38:29]: The other board appointments for the [2:38:29, 2:38:32]: Citizen Police Advisory Council. [2:38:33, 2:38:34]: If we can prolong that [2:38:34, 2:38:36]: Until February. [2:38:36, 2:38:37]: The other ones [2:38:38, 2:38:40]: What is it? The youth council or youth advisory. [2:38:41, 2:38:42]: Board and the others. [2:38:43, 2:38:44]: If we can just postpone it. [2:38:45, 2:38:45]: For [2:38:46, 2:38:48]: An additional month until February. [2:38:48, 2:38:53]: That allows time for those newly annexed residents. [2:38:54, 2:38:54]: Two [2:38:55, 2:38:55]: Apply. [2:38:56, 2:38:58]: Just give them an opportunity. [2:38:58, 2:39:04]: I don't think just postponing appointments until our next meeting, which is next week. [2:39:05, 2:39:08]: gives those new residents [2:39:09, 2:39:10]: Enough time. [2:39:11, 2:39:31]: Well I let me n now let me say this. It was already mentioned, I mean really there've already been plenty of new uh residents that have already uh put applications that are in our book now. We're at we're looking to stand it maybe another week before they come before us to do it on the twentieth, provided the council wants to do this. But if these appointments end on the thirty first [2:39:31, 2:39:40]: All right. And the new year's January first and these if residents are inside inside the the residents of the city and they want to come on board, we I don't see why we can't appoint them [2:39:40, 2:39:47]: But before they before the end of the year, because no one's gonna get sworn in until the the beginning of the year anyway. That is my understanding. [2:39:47, 2:39:49]: Clair okay, because you need to clarify. [2:39:50, 2:40:03]: code works even though the term ends on twelve thirty one, that um board member remains in that position until you find a new pus person or they are reappointed. [2:40:03, 2:40:10]: Wait, this is everybody or what board are you talking about? That is the way the code is written. Okay, for everybody. So they it would remain until Okay. [2:40:11, 2:40:15]: You all decided to move forward with new appointments or reappointments. [2:40:17, 2:40:37]: Well uh y y what what what you were asking for earlier is a is uh we get some clarification, I believe, Madam Clerk, I'm sorry, Madam Clerk, actually earlier to get some clarification to give a little bit more time and it but I'm thinking along the lines that uh w this we got uh the this is the twelfth, so it's eight little more than eight days. Eight days from now. [2:40:37, 2:40:39]: But uh if we got enough people [2:40:39, 2:40:59]: I mean, I don't understand why we can't do it. Try to get clarification and do this now. But that's up to the council. Stand by I'm not done, please. I'm not done, please. So it's so it's up to the council to decide how you want to go forward on that. But uh uh but uh but we had a we had a motion, but I want to make sure if it went from Mayor Pro Tem to Councilman Barber, I want to make sure that you understand what the motion. [2:40:59, 2:41:06]: motion is, we approved it, but you made a recommendation here and I want to make sure that that is understood what the real motion really is. [2:41:06, 2:41:10]: I was speaking to tabling this [2:41:12, 2:41:15]: But the date has to be uh set by the council. [2:41:16, 2:41:21]: What was your motion though? What what is we've made a motion made s I wanna make sure we understand appointments be postponed? [2:41:22, 2:41:25]: Now I'm not authorized to make a motion. I was making a recommendation. [2:41:25, 2:41:45]: Okay, that's right. You can't make a motion anyway. I'm sorry. But the date has to be determined by the council. Okay, okay. Back to Mayor Pro Tem since you made well what is what is your motion, sir? Uh uh. Ask the clerk what even though she made the request the recommendation, what would the what would you recommend the date to be for [2:41:45, 2:41:47]: for uh this uh appointment. [2:41:48, 2:42:00]: recommend that the council tell us and give it that directive. I said in February. Okay, so I suggested February. For appointments. Stand by please. Mr. Appointments. [2:42:01, 2:42:18]: Stand by please, Miss Barber. Okay, you seem to cut me off when I chime in. No, I didn't. But you haven't to check anybody else when they chime in. I'll finish what I'll finish the statement that I made. You we heard just swearing in if we can postpone that. [2:42:18, 2:42:22]: Until the middle of February I'm looking at my calendar. [2:42:23, 2:42:36]: So if we can postpone it until maybe February twentieth, I believe we've been doing the swearing ins in January, January twentieth or somewhere around that time frame. [2:42:36, 2:42:40]: If we can just postpone the swearing in for one month. [2:42:41, 2:42:49]: That allows any new resident or any other residents that is interested in applying for any of these positions. [2:42:50, 2:42:51]: But just gives him time. [2:42:52, 2:42:53]: That's all. [2:42:54, 2:43:01]: That's enough. May Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. Mayor Ford, let me get clarification from Councilwoman Blu um Barber, if I may. [2:43:02, 2:43:02]: Um [2:43:04, 2:43:09]: You're not recommending we do this in in January, you're recommending February. [2:43:10, 2:43:14]: the swearing in itself, the deadline [2:43:14, 2:43:22]: to submit applications, of course we would have to extend that. So are you recommending that we appoint [2:43:23, 2:43:27]: In January but swear in in February. Yes. [2:43:28, 2:43:29]: Okay, so [2:43:29, 2:43:49]: Just extend everything by one month. So, Mayor and Council, I am in my motion uh to add the language um to postpone until January for the selection and for swearing in in the month, the first meeting in um [2:43:49, 2:43:50]: February. [2:43:51, 2:43:52]: Is there a second to the motion? [2:43:52, 2:43:57]: A second. And um Madam Clerk, you have the motion written down, is that correct? I have it. [2:43:57, 2:44:02]: Okay. May I have a question. Go ahead, sir. Madam Clerk, when is what date is the first meeting in January? [2:44:06, 2:44:07]: It's the ninth of January. [2:44:08, 2:44:23]: It's the ninth. Second month. So roughly thirty days, roughly thirty days from now. And and this application has already been out and and posted online and we have applicants that are coming new to the city have already started applying, is that correct? [2:44:30, 2:44:34]: So if we do an appointment on the first week [2:44:34, 2:44:43]: first meeting in January, which gives it thirty more days, and we've already got people applying, then we can still have the ceremony on the twentieth. Is that correct? [2:44:45, 2:44:51]: I think they said the this way it is on the twentieth, right? The twentieth I'm talking when I tell you the twentieth, I'm talking about the twentieth of this month. [2:44:52, 2:44:57]: twentieth of this month, if we wanna select people on the twentieth of this month, they can be sworn in. [2:44:57, 2:45:00]: In in in January w on the ninth of January. [2:45:01, 2:45:21]: Well,'cause they've already you already got people to apply. They're already they're already in it. Well, I have no idea how many applicants in there. I'm I'm I'm okay with having the swearing in in January, but I don't think that we need to prolong this all the way to February. I mean I'm not for that. Uh if we wait till the first meeting in January and appoint then, because I don't have no idea who's gonna be at this meeting [2:45:21, 2:45:34]: uh next w the next meeting because it's so close to Christmas, that if we know that in Jan January that everybody hopefully would be here, we make the appointments then and then we could still have the swearing in ceremony in January. I don't think that would hurt anything. [2:45:35, 2:45:52]: I think it just makes things a lot roll move a lot smoother and hopefully everybody will be here during that month than trying to cram it like like that. I have no idea who would be at the next meeting. I don't I don't I don't agree to prolonging it to February because we've already had applic uh [2:45:53, 2:45:58]: The awareness of of of these positions are out there. If it wasn't, we wouldn't have applications already. [2:45:58, 2:46:13]: The thing about it is and and Mayor Pro Tem emphasized this and it's part of that's what I was gonna say earlier, it's part of it, so I reemphasized this part. It's part of the process when we had all these town halls that we talked about appointments and boards. That's why now that's been approved, folks are coming in, that's why it went on applied. [2:46:13, 2:46:31]: Well well I agree, but when you say that uh not waiting is a slap in the citizens' face, then okay, then the compromise is is let's do it in the first in January. I'm not trying to slap citizens in the face. So the compromise is we appoint the first meeting in January and we uh swear'em in at the end of January. [2:46:33, 2:46:33]: I mean [2:46:34, 2:46:42]: You're gonna have it one way or other. Either they're informed and we do it now, or not enough is informed, and I'm slapping them in the face and we do it later. [2:46:43, 2:47:03]: Well, okay. Well my my thoughts were that if we delayed it we can maybe look at appointing folks on the twentieth of this month and then swear'em on the ninth of January. Because if new folks are not gonna be sworn into the new part of the year anyway. Whether they were in the already in the city or with our new additions. And how do the clerk do we have a substantial amount of applicants already in? Yeah, they're in the book. [2:47:03, 2:47:04]: Quite a bit. [2:47:04, 2:47:05]: Yeah, I see quite a few. [2:47:08, 2:47:15]: Well right right now the motion's on the floor. The motion's been on the floor. So uh with this is a discussion. So all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [2:47:17, 2:47:25]: Two all pose? All right, so the motion then doesn't pass. So um what it amounts to is that um [2:47:25, 2:47:33]: If if we're gonna appoint anybody, we can either do it in the second session tonight or wait till the twentieth and represent this on the twentieth so we're gonna meet now on the twentieth of December anyway. [2:47:34, 2:47:36]: Let me go forward to that point. [2:47:38, 2:47:43]: Mayor at this point however we want to do it, I just don't think we need to prolong it to February. Okay. [2:47:44, 2:47:46]: Uh Mayor Fort. [2:47:46, 2:47:51]: I'm not in favor of tonight. Okay. I would not vote in favor. All right. [2:47:51, 2:47:59]: So we'll uh so how about a motion to table this and well did not vote in favor for tonight. Okay. I got I got it. You're not in favor. [2:47:59, 2:48:03]: I'm sorry, sir? No, I was just Madam Clerk could not hear me. Okay. [2:48:03, 2:48:05]: Are you in favor of the twentieth? [2:48:06, 2:48:24]: The twentieth of December. Which we're gonna be meeting anyway that night. So Oh you wanna wait the first meeting in January. Let me let me be clear then. So we're talking about a appointing and swearing in. No, no, appointing only. We're not cast swearing until January, sir, anyway. Okay, so are you talking about appointing December the twentieth? Right. [2:48:25, 2:48:31]: Which would include all of the new residents as well? Well rather yeah, whatever people have put in applications, absolutely. [2:48:32, 2:48:35]: But I'm saying we would not exclude. [2:48:35, 2:48:46]: The new citizen. No, no, no. Why why why would no? Because no one's gonna get sworn in until the the new year anyway. After no one's gonna no one's scheduled to get sworn in until the at the earliest would be the our meeting on the ninth of January. [2:48:47, 2:48:50]: They become effectively citizens on January first. [2:48:51, 2:48:55]: Okay, so if someone wanna make the motion I will support that but not [2:48:56, 2:49:03]: Not not going into executive session tonight. That's okay. That's that's fine. We don't have to go to exec session tonight for that, sir. Okay. [2:49:03, 2:49:22]: But since we have the uh applicants in here, and this gonna be interesting, but since we had the applicants in here, I I I I make the motion that we do the uh appointments on the twentieth,'cause you do have new residence applications, right? Yes. We'll do the appointments on the twentieth and we do the swearing in uh at a whatever proposed date in January. [2:49:22, 2:49:24]: Okay. So we're basically moving this. [2:49:25, 2:49:41]: Yes, we are. Yes. The appointments. Yeah. All three appointments. All yeah, they'd be three three different uh fourteen, fifteen and sixteen. Seems like they was th all these would be done on the twentieth. At the that's the proposal, I should say. Is that been a vote made? I can I can support that. [2:49:42, 2:49:48]: All right, is there a motion to do that? Yes, I did a motion. Okay, is there a second to the motion? [2:49:49, 2:49:53]: I'll pose. I thought you was gonna be interested, so sustain. [2:49:54, 2:50:04]: All right, well I tell you what. So I tell you what then, um if we're not gonna do this tonight then this is gonna have to be postponed anyway. I mean'cause we if we'cause um [2:50:06, 2:50:08]: I'll t well do we have any legal advice? [2:50:12, 2:50:16]: Yeah, well I know. We'd have to bring them back. [2:50:19, 2:50:21]: Um c come to Mike, please. [2:50:33, 2:50:36]: I was g saying I actually have to refer to Madam Clerk in regards to that if [2:50:37, 2:50:39]: It's not being [2:50:39, 2:50:53]: Move to the twentieth. It it will have to. Well then it will come back. It will come back on the twentieth. But I just wanna see what t legal advice you may have since you're here. It will come back on the twentieth. All right. Yes. [2:50:54, 2:51:00]: So it is fourteen, fifteen, and sixteen. We'll come back on the agenda on the twentieth. So that's at least five different things on the twentieth of December. [2:51:00, 2:51:01]: All right. [2:51:02, 2:51:08]: We'll now move to uh agenda number seventeen. Deals with licensing agreement for parking. [2:51:08, 2:51:11]: We added this motion at the beginning of the meeting and um [2:51:12, 2:51:14]: I would imagine this is you, Mr Gardner. [2:51:17, 2:51:18]: Is Danielle's gonna handle this? [2:51:21, 2:51:23]: Are you handling this this this motion? [2:51:24, 2:51:28]: License and agreement for parking. This can't it can't it did come from the attorneys. [2:51:30, 2:51:32]: If Daniel, if you don't know anything about it then I've [2:51:33, 2:51:36]: This p pumpkin This is uh [2:51:37, 2:51:51]: This deals with uh parking usage of uh the the approval of the parking usage of our of our parking lot for the church during the cour during the course of the construction of the right-of-ways and repaving that's done on Lee Street. [2:51:51, 2:52:11]: Yes. Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. So this is and I'll I'll let that get into the details, but this is the an agreement with the church as part of us re doing the relocation and the improvements of the intersection right there at um Lee Street. This is what that's involved with in terms of we're gonna be they're gonna be [2:52:11, 2:52:24]: utilizing some of their property they wanna know as we do the improvements if they can use our our parking lot in the interim whilst they're whilst they're making the transition on the Lee Street side of the property. [2:52:25, 2:52:41]: W well while the city be making the improvements to South Lee Street, realigning the road, there'll be some impact on the church that prevents them from using their parking lot. So they're requesting permission to use the parking lot at the municipal court and city hall during this process. [2:52:41, 2:52:43]: And I guess we should be good neighbors, right? [2:52:43, 2:52:45]: Therefore, [2:52:46, 2:52:56]: Stand by. Stand by. Down here first. Okay. Yes, Miss Gardner. Uh uh Miss Barber, I'm sorry. I'd like to make a motion to approve staff's recommendation. [2:52:56, 2:53:02]: Accepted. Okay. Uh this that would uh motion made second for discussion's sake. [2:53:02, 2:53:04]: Did did this have to come to us? [2:53:05, 2:53:07]: To tell somebody where they could park? [2:53:07, 2:53:09]: Well it's it's [2:53:11, 2:53:25]: It's an agreement to allow for them to utilize our parking area as they as we do the transition for Lee Street. So we'd wanna get Yeah, an easement. We'd wanna get the approvement of that, yes. [2:53:27, 2:53:41]: All right, all in favor of the motion, please indicate. All right, it's unanimous decision on that. Okay. And uh what is next? Contract extension for GFL sanitation services. I believe this is uh Mr. Aaron or m and Mr. Gardner, both? [2:53:42, 2:54:02]: Go ahead please. So what was the question because I'm unaware as to what the item it just says GFL contract? Right. Right. In reference to the contract. I believe the contract is uh is being need being renewed for one and number two is that the qu the one two to that portion would be how do we deal with our new residents? [2:54:02, 2:54:22]: They're coming in in one January. So So w one of the things we've been talking with GFL, we've gotten a list, so we finally got a list that we can work with'cause one list we received had sixteen hundred parcels, then we got another one that says there's twenty-two twenty two hundred [2:54:22, 2:54:27]: something parcel. So we're having to go through that list. [2:54:28, 2:54:47]: parcel by parcel because on today and last week when we was reviewing it, some of listed from the tax commissioner saying it's a commercial property, but when we go on the tax assessors o website and view it is actually a residential property. It's listed as single family residential. So we gotta go through all of those parcels. [2:54:47, 2:55:07]: And so we gotta integrate those parcels into the current route structure with GFL. So we've had a conversation with GFL. They say it would be they're requesting at least 90 days to start providing services to the newly annexed residents so that it'll be a smooth transition because you've got to get [2:55:07, 2:55:13]: get those routes integrated into what we currently have and if we and get carts delivered. [2:55:15, 2:55:32]: Okay, that's ninety days, all right, in that aspect. Stand by please. Ninety days. Uh okay, but what's that uh so but there's still part uh another part of this in reference to extending GFL's contract or approval for that. Is that Yes. Okay. One year renewal. [2:55:32, 2:55:52]: One renewal. Okay, is what we're looking for. So it's t okay. That's that has to be done tonight, supposedly, and then also through the negotiation with them, provided it's proved, that how we're gonna satis service service those new residents within the first ninety days, all the all the additional planning has to go into that. Yes,'cause we've got a get a billing mechanism in place as well. [2:55:52, 2:55:53]: Because [2:55:53, 2:56:02]: the current residents, they're billed on their property taxes. So these residents would have to be billed directly because it'll be uh [2:56:03, 2:56:23]: By June first of twenty twenty three, we'd have to have that information to the tax assessors to build them for the the next year. And we've estimated that taking on these additional customers based on our current rates, it would be between 45 and$50,000 a month to add those 2200 customers. So we gotta [2:56:23, 2:56:42]: figure out a way that's prudent for us to collect that revenue. Cause when we when Carriage Lakes came in, we pretty much were able to, it was a hundred homes, about a hundred homes, and it were right across from Monarch Village. So they had the same collection day as Monarch Village. So it was a easier transition. We gave them 90 days to [2:56:43, 2:57:03]: discontinued service with their current provider and then on January the first, twenty eighteen, we started providing service to those and the city pretty much absorbed the cost of those residents coming into the system because we didn't have a process in place to build those residents. So it [2:57:02, 2:57:22]: It's a process where we're going through with verifying the actual number of parcels residential and also they're being implemented into the current routing structure and then you gotta get a billing system in place to ensure that we're recovering the funds for the service. So besides that action [2:57:22, 2:57:27]: No, there's gotta be some other bigger plan or action to c somehow communicate [2:57:27, 2:57:34]: 'Cause I believe it was a gentleman tonight earlier, Mr. Evans brought up the a point about the plan to to inform every about the transition. So [2:57:35, 2:57:37]: So city manager, how are we going about doing this? [2:57:37, 2:57:40]: Yes, sir. Mayor [2:57:40, 2:57:50]: that um we need to get a letter from from a g the mayor, I guess the chief elected official that goes out to those new residents invite um, you know [2:57:50, 2:58:06]: Inviting them into the city and since we've met um this past week, I guess Friday or Thursday and finalized the the issue around sanitation, that we could include the language in there as it relates to services that would be rendered to those homeowners. That's [2:58:07, 2:58:27]: That's gonna be outside of public safety police. That'll be the only service that we'll be providing those residents. Most of those residents are Henry County Water and Sioux Authority by water or Clayton County by water. We they're not city current city re you know, on the city system. So we'll just you know put something together that pocket and have that sent out. Our goal is to you know, we're [2:58:27, 2:58:42]: Working diligently to get that done um so they could get out of here as quickly as possible for those residents. Can we do it before Christmas? Oh yeah. Oh no no we um hopefully end of this week. All right, good deal. Yes sir. Ms Ms. Garner uh Bar Miss Barber, go ahead please. Okay. [2:58:43, 2:58:48]: There was a residential and commercial waste collection. [2:58:48, 2:58:50]: solicitation that was posted. [2:58:51, 2:58:53]: It closed on December eighth. [2:58:55, 2:58:57]: Where are we with that process? [2:58:58, 2:59:07]: Well it closed on December eighth. The committee has been selected, so when procurement gives us that date for them to meet and review the two proposals we received. [2:59:08, 2:59:24]: then they will evaluate those proposals and then we'll come back with to council to award that contract. So why are we asking you all are asking us to approve the renewal of GFL for an additional year? [2:59:25, 2:59:26]: That's what you're asking. [2:59:27, 2:59:31]: Yes, ma'am. And and the reason for that is this, even though we put that proposal out there [2:59:33, 2:59:52]: We're trying to make it as unchaotic for the residents as possible. Uh I know GFL I don't know what can I say that that they're one of the biggest. Yeah. Yes. Just making sure. Um I know that GFL is one of the two that's put in for it, but at the same time [2:59:53, 3:00:13]: We're trying to make sure that we have the least corruptive and the most seamless avenue for these new residents to come into the city. Um I've been in discussions with Jeremy as well as with um our procurement manager as to how do we move, you know, moving forward. [3:00:13, 3:00:29]: with this recognizing that, you know, we have a number of those existing, those current residents that are coming in who are already GFL customers. Um, had Eagles Landing been one of them, I would have been one of those residents who are already a GFL customer. [3:00:30, 3:00:45]: Uh, we know that. We're also trying to effort that as well to determine how many people on that list are c are their current customers. We're trying to do it with the m least impact to these new residents as possible so that they don't be calling you guys as we're trying to make a shift between [3:00:45, 3:00:49]: starting up with a new company and potentially having them not have enough [3:00:50, 3:00:54]: enough equipment to cover these new people that are ca that came into the city. So we're [3:00:55, 3:01:03]: We're we're looking at all of our we're we're looking at all of our avenues to make sure that this becomes as seamless and painless as possible for these right now. Thank you, sir. But um [3:01:04, 3:01:06]: A follow up to that. [3:01:08, 3:01:14]: For quite some time citizens have complained about the service. [3:01:14, 3:01:17]: Quality of services from GFAL. [3:01:18, 3:01:19]: I cannot. [3:01:19, 3:01:22]: Approve the award of a contract. [3:01:23, 3:01:43]: to a service provider that we know we've had issues with. Mayor point of order. Point of order, Mayor. You have to know that. What's your point of order, sir? We know that time. Ms. Barber, stand by for a second. You didn't stop him when I called a point of order. I want my time to stand by, will you please? [3:01:42, 3:01:45]: Mr Mr. Blount, what is your point of order? [3:01:45, 3:01:49]: The point of water, Mayor, we have to stop as a council. [3:01:49, 3:01:52]: Sitting up here belittling any company. [3:01:52, 3:02:07]: I am addressing the concerns and desires of the citizens in our calm down where you the quality of services from the current contractor is not acceptable. Okay, fine. Asking specifically about the solicitation that was posted [3:02:07, 3:02:27]: for new sanitation services. Timing is important. You're really out of order right now. Timing is important. So this doesn't just rest on staff. If you don't have a total proposals that have been presented, I I got it. I got it. This solicitation should have gone out [3:02:27, 3:02:37]: Months ago. There's a point of order on the toilet and you should be heard. Calm down, folks, when you're a new side. [3:02:38, 3:02:52]: Just calm down. In good conscience. See what I'm saying? Don't approve the renewal. You gotta offer you right here. This current contract. I'm not sure. Either gonna take control of this meet, mayor, or you ask the officer to have a remote, but she's not gonna listen. Stand by. Will you please stand by? [3:02:53, 3:02:55]: Okay, now we got some quiet here for a second. Thank you. [3:02:56, 3:02:56]: Now [3:02:57, 3:02:58]: Mr. Blount. [3:02:59, 3:03:02]: Your point of order was My point of order is Mayor. [3:03:03, 3:03:23]: You as a ch you as a presiding officer should not allow us to sit here and belittle any companies that's under contract like we're doing right now in the process that we're going. Okay. We are in litigation right now because of that down there. Okay, it's Tom okay, got it. Now it's point order. Now, Miss Barber, did you finish your comments? I did not. [3:03:23, 3:03:43]: The citizens are not happy with current services from the sanitation company. I have a responsibility to make sure that I address the concerns and the desires here. I understand right now we gotta figure out something because we promised and we are required to provide. [3:03:43, 3:03:47]: provide sanitation services to all of the residents here. [3:03:47, 3:04:00]: It is the responsibility of staff to prepare for this. You're dropping this in our laps right now. I am not going to approve extending a contract of a provider that I know. [3:04:01, 3:04:03]: The citizens are not happy with [3:04:04, 3:04:05]: So what I'm asking [3:04:06, 3:04:11]: We have what two weeks before three weeks before the beginning of the year. [3:04:12, 3:04:15]: We need to come up with a a plan not just a plan. [3:04:16, 3:04:34]: We need actions right now. By our next meeting, we should know what our plans are. I'm already getting calls from residents, those new residents that are being annexed. I'm already getting calls and emails from them. They're asking about sanitation services. They're asking about the boards. [3:04:35, 3:04:43]: We should have planned for this beforehand. So now if things get chaotic, it is because we did not prepare for it. [3:04:43, 3:04:57]: Yes ma'am. So I don't and so let me let me and thank you. Go go ahead, you guys respond, go ahead and respond. I think the solicitation went out back in September, which is the time none of us knew whether or not this was gonna pass. [3:04:57, 3:05:05]: And to you know, to say we didn't we didn't plan, you know, we didn't know whether or not this was gonna pass or not. [3:05:06, 3:05:21]: And so once it passed we started working in earnest to figure out and once we got the data from the county and the collections and the elections office that gives us what that number was of those people that came in and now we learn that that's not even accurate. [3:05:22, 3:05:37]: So it's not just on us. We're taking the extra step to find out are these people correct? Are these homes loaned properly in terms of is it commercial reser res rather than residential properties? This shouldn't be a job that we're doing, but we're doing it. [3:05:37, 3:05:39]: Um, because we have to. [3:05:40, 3:05:43]: Right. And so to say that we didn't plan or fail to, I think is [3:05:44, 3:05:56]: Not all correct because you know, it's one thing to say, yes, I'm gonna walk in and make all these advanced notices and then they don't pass and we waste all the staff time trying to figure it out. [3:05:56, 3:05:59]: We once we knew it passed, we started working. [3:06:00, 3:06:02]: Мін до стаф ін албар. [3:06:03, 3:06:09]: And I don't know why it seems that everything we come from a negative perspective as to the staff here. [3:06:10, 3:06:12]: We start there and then work our way back to positive. [3:06:14, 3:06:16]: So Mr. Gardner. [3:06:16, 3:06:17]: Tell me what do I do? [3:06:18, 3:06:23]: Because I've heard the concerns from residents in regards to [3:06:23, 3:06:26]: Sanitation services. Mr. Aaron. [3:06:26, 3:06:28]: I've called you a number of times. [3:06:28, 3:06:32]: This year I've sent you emails this year. [3:06:32, 3:06:36]: You've seen the social media post. Tell me what am I to do. [3:06:37, 3:06:38]: What am I to do? [3:06:39, 3:06:41]: With those residents who come to me. [3:06:41, 3:06:47]: Constantly about their concerns, their complaints, trash pickup. [3:06:47, 3:06:48]: Delayed. [3:06:49, 3:06:51]: Not getting picked up at all. [3:06:51, 3:06:54]: I mean what do I do? What do I do? [3:06:54, 3:07:01]: So here's the issue we're dealing with. When I went to my public works managers conference, it's not just [3:07:01, 3:07:06]: What to do? What do I say to the residents when they come to me? [3:07:07, 3:07:08]: And they tell me [3:07:08, 3:07:28]: They tell me they're trash didn't get picked up today. What do you want me to tell? What do you want me to tell them? Other than to continue calling his mouth, you're not even gonna be able to do that. Okay, and we are charged with making sure [3:07:28, 3:07:29]: Sure. [3:07:29, 3:07:31]: That we are selecting [3:07:32, 3:07:38]: suppliers that will provide for the needs of the citizens here. Quality services. [3:07:38, 3:07:53]: Yes. Um yes, and and I can speak as as a GFL customer who who has gone through some issues with these folks as it relates to sitting on the phone for four, five, six, eight hours waiting to get somebody in customer service. So yes, I've been affected by them. [3:07:54, 3:07:58]: as a customer. Um and I know that we've met with the new regional [3:07:59, 3:08:19]: The new regional manager that came on board a few months ago, I guess. We met with him and talked to him about the issues that have been that that have been transpired and I actually had a direct conversation with him about my situation that I was going through um with GFL. And so, you know, his promise was, Hey man, we're we're gonna get this all done. Um [3:08:19, 3:08:28]: Um the issue that we're facing isn't, you know, new. It's it's not anomalous to to to GFL, I think, and and [3:08:28, 3:08:39]: Um Desh just was about to speak to this'cause I've heard from other city managers that that are having some issues around, you know, s the their private their private contractors for [3:08:40, 3:08:44]: are having some of the same issues, um trucks leaking. [3:08:45, 3:09:05]: um staffing issues with getting enough certified drivers to drive um routes, not you know incomplete routes to some degree. And so what we sat down with him and and Dest is could talk a little bit more about it was, you know, hear the cries of our residents, right? You're new, so we're employing to putting you to [3:09:05, 3:09:09]: start making some changes as it relates to the level of service that we have here. [3:09:10, 3:09:28]: Be that what it may, we also understand that, you know, but bringing on these additional folks, how do we transition in light of that? And that's the reason why w you know, we was like, okay, it's gonna take us a couple of months for order for us to get for them to get their the system for them to take it over before we can. [3:09:28, 3:09:48]: you know, we need to have that consistency there. We understand the gripes and the issues with at with the current vendor, but that just allowed for us to make that transition and then obviously transition back to putting it back out and hopefully get more than just two. Because there there are a few more companies out there other than the two that applied and would I would love to be able to get them and [3:09:48, 3:09:50]: or get more at least more on board. But [3:09:51, 3:09:55]: You know, from our standpoint looking at it, yes, I mean I've been an affected customer. [3:09:56, 3:10:02]: But at the same time, we're trying to make sure that you know, as we transition over, it's not a headache for the residents coming on board. [3:10:02, 3:10:03]: Did you know? [3:10:04, 3:10:08]: The pain that I might have suffered hopefully then they're not gonna see because we're trying to address it with them. [3:10:08, 3:10:15]: But it's also making sure that they know somebody's gonna be there on X date to collect and that it's gonna be a seamless issue. [3:10:15, 3:10:15]: So [3:10:16, 3:10:24]: The solicitation that was out there, it was closed. So it is waiting for staff to evaluate it and go through the whole process. So what do you mean by [3:10:24, 3:10:28]: stab putting it out again. W we can just, you know [3:10:29, 3:10:49]: make a determination w with the two that we have, taking in consideration that you have to rate. We're gonna go through that process, but one of the things that staff was challenged with, I think you mentioned it that you wanted a minimum of three, but we're gonna go with the two that we have. And one of them is the current vendor that we [3:10:49, 3:10:50]: We have right now. [3:10:50, 3:11:10]: And a new company that started in two thousand eleven was the other company that bidd on it. And so when I first got here in two thousand and sixteen, GFL was I think you had recently brought GFL on board. You had transitioned from in house to waste industry, it's waste industries. [3:11:10, 3:11:17]: So pre-pandemic we didn't have we didn't have issues like we've had during the pandemic. [3:11:17, 3:11:32]: And at that public works managers conference meeting, that was one of the main topics we talked about was sanitation services. Friend of mine's is the Solid Waste Direct and Griffin. He's having the same they do it in-house. They're having the same issues finding employees. They're behind. [3:11:32, 3:11:33]: Where? [3:11:33, 3:11:46]: employees because everybody is fighting fighting for the same group of employees. If GFL has a driver they paying him$18 an hour, guess what? Republic offers him 19 or 20. He goes to Republic. [3:11:47, 3:11:52]: And so just like we encountered covet issues, they encountered covet issues. [3:11:52, 3:12:12]: Just like we got these positions we haven't been able to fill, they've got positions they haven't been able to fill. But I think we've started some things, we implemented some things to m kind of help the process, like online you go in and make reservations to have bulk service or schedule yard ways. And so as we going through this process to bring on these [3:12:12, 3:12:32]: Additional customers, we don't want because the agreement says within 30 days of them being notified of newly annexed properties, they're supposed to begin service. But we're going through the holiday season. The last thing I want, if there's a snafu, somebody has service right now, and they cancel their service. [3:12:32, 3:12:52]: Service and we're unable to provide that service. So they sitting there three or four weeks. They don't have a way to get rid of their garbage. So we want to give people a date saying this date we will start providing you that service because, like I said, it's a whole lot of ancillary things involved in it. It's billing, it's getting carts delivered, it's routing them into the house. [3:12:52, 3:12:59]: Current route system so that you don't have an upset with the current customers, their date gets changed because. [3:12:59, 3:13:19]: The routes are out of balance. So it's a lot of things in the background that has to be accomplished before you start bringing on additional customers. And and that's the process we're going through now because the data, as Councilman Alexander said earlier, junk in, junk out. If we don't have the correct information to give to the vendor. [3:13:19, 3:13:39]: Then it's gonna be a nightmare. You're gonna be getting a lot of calls. We're gonna be getting a lot of calls from disgruntled people saying, When I had my prior service, I didn't have this issue. Now y'all brought me into the city, I save a few dollars, but I don't know when I'm gonna get service. So we're just trying to make sure that it's a smooth process and to have time. [3:13:39, 3:13:59]: So that when we bring on a new vendor, because we're adding something we haven't had previously, we're gonna add the commercial piece to that. So staff are gonna have to go and identify every commercial establishment in the city, what type of cart they have, what kind of service they have. And we've never done that before. So we don't have an inventory. [3:13:59, 3:14:02]: So [3:14:03, 3:14:23]: It so one of the things in the RLP was saying that it would be a year before we add the commercial piece. It gives people a chance to get away from the current contractor, but also for the city to conduct the inventory so we'll have an accurate list when we give it to them. Because heaven forbids when you make that change and somebody serves [3:14:23, 3:14:35]: service does not improve, it gets worse, then that's gonna be a lot of calls that you're gonna receive. So already getting that. So we're trying to alleviate that process, like I said, to get [3:14:36, 3:14:56]: When we all know there are supply chains issues, but we talked with GFL, they said they had fifteen hundred carts on hand. And they could get us the additional carts because some of their the customers that'll be coming in are already GFL customers. So they're going through that list, rubbing it to see which ones are already their customers and have the carts. But we want the problem. [3:14:56, 3:15:04]: process to be as smooth as possible. And I know if you said we're gonna start January first, you're not gonna be able to do it and do it effectively. [3:15:04, 3:15:22]: Well early in the conversation you you indicated third ninety days. I'm assuming that things are starting ninety days. First quarter. Yes, uh. All right. Is that right? Okay. All right. Good deal. Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. Thank you. [3:15:24, 3:15:37]: Uh Mr. Gardner, Mr. Aaron, Councilwoman Barber, I I do understand those issues. I've had those issues um as a resident myself. But this is what I do understand. [3:15:38, 3:15:40]: We have to get it right. [3:15:41, 3:15:46]: We have to serve not only the new residents. [3:15:46, 3:15:48]: But even the current one. [3:15:49, 3:15:54]: I don't know, but I believe if you bring in someone new altogether [3:15:55, 3:15:58]: I think some of the existing customers [3:15:59, 3:16:19]: Probably gonna have some problem because we have a new company out there running these routes. So, considering all of that, and I'm going to trust you two guys here to make sure that GFL, if we agree to give them the one-year extension, that we get it right. We cannot [3:16:19, 3:16:20]: College. [3:16:21, 3:16:26]: The new citizens coming in and the existences because of some of our [3:16:27, 3:16:29]: deficiency, if you will. [3:16:30, 3:16:32]: I don't think we have a lot of choices. [3:16:33, 3:16:38]: And I agree with the assessment that you all are are making here. We don't have a choice. [3:16:39, 3:16:59]: We have to go down this road and hope that you all will communicate with GFL and they do better. But we don't have a choice, Councilwoman Barr. We don't have a choice. But one thing I do know, and I I attended most of all of the sessions that we had, these town halls, and I know what we put out. [3:16:59, 3:17:03]: down there. And I know what we said. And we have a gentleman right here. [3:17:04, 3:17:06]: He's sitting here and he's heard all of this. [3:17:07, 3:17:09]: And I know it's discouraging for him. [3:17:10, 3:17:12]: We have to get this right. [3:17:13, 3:17:19]: We have to get this right. And I think from what I heard from you two gentlemen [3:17:19, 3:17:20]: The plan [3:17:21, 3:17:22]: And we had just hope. [3:17:23, 3:17:35]: And trust you all that y'all are going to get with GFL and get it right going forward for the next twelve months. We don't have a choice. We cannot [3:17:36, 3:17:39]: Make these citizens suffer. I don't want to suffer. [3:17:39, 3:17:59]: I don't want because we have a new company coming in and my schedule is on Tuesday and they come to me on a Thursday because uh they don't know where I live, they don't know this. So we don't have a choice, but we have to get it right. I'm going to trust you two guys that you all are going to work with GFL and all of the new addresses. [3:17:59, 3:18:04]: and everything that we do as you all just laid it out. And we get it right. [3:18:04, 3:18:18]: within these next 12 months. And let's just let's just be trusting in that. I get complaints as well. But if I had to communicate with anybody, any new citizens or this, I would tell them this. [3:18:19, 3:18:30]: This is the process and we're gonna try to make it right. Trust in us to get it right. That will be, I know Councilwoman Bar, you said, what do you say to these customers? This is what you have to say. [3:18:30, 3:18:34]: Nothing is perfect, but we're going to work to try to get it right. [3:18:35, 3:18:46]: And we have to do this for these citizens. They trusted us, those that went to the poll and voted to become citizens of Stockbridge. We can't stomp our toe on this. [3:18:46, 3:18:52]: Because they trusted us. When they went to the ballot and pushed that button, they trusted us. [3:18:52, 3:18:54]: To get it right. [3:18:54, 3:18:56]: And we have to deliver. [3:18:58, 3:18:59]: No eofs. [3:19:00, 3:19:04]: No ands, no buts. We have to get it right. [3:19:05, 3:19:11]: So I'm going to trust you two guys to get with GFL and in the next twelve months we we deliver. [3:19:12, 3:19:32]: I think the main thing is to make sure we verify those addresses which we're going through now because if you send somebody a bill and they're not part of the city or didn't get annexed in, then so now we gotta go through that process of refunding folks' fees because [3:19:32, 3:19:34]: I will say this [3:19:35, 3:19:38]: I think that the city should have [3:19:38, 3:19:40]: had a contingency plan. [3:19:40, 3:19:44]: Because we didn't know if it was gonna pass, we didn't know if it was gonna fail. [3:19:44, 3:19:47]: But I think we should have been prepared. [3:19:48, 3:19:50]: That it would pass. [3:19:50, 3:19:54]: Now I say that, but it's nothing we can do about that now. [3:19:56, 3:19:58]: All we got is going forward. [3:19:58, 3:20:18]: So I think these are lesson learned, but we should have had some kind of contingency in case it did pass. But again, it's nothing we can do about that now. We have to just go forward. But again, uh I I'm trusting you you guys to t to get it right. And uh and um that's our goal. We wanna get it right, we wanna be done with [3:20:18, 3:20:38]: with as little disruption as possible. But like I said, the main thing was just actually getting our hands on the parcels that were and extended because when we looked at the bill, it didn't have all of the individual parcels. It had like blocks, what were census tracts and things like that. So we [3:20:38, 3:20:55]: We just got, I think, the first one because I had a correspondence with the clerk about the actual parcels that was annexed in. So we had a conversation with the Board of Elections. They gave us a list. And then we had another conversation with the tax commissioner. He gave us a list. So [3:20:56, 3:21:02]: And now we're we're working through those lists'cause it's about a six hundred ten bucks parcel difference. So [3:21:03, 3:21:05]: Ms. Barber, you had your hand up? [3:21:05, 3:21:18]: Yes. Yeah. Um I believe over the summer the council approved a number of I believe there were resolutions in regards to contracts and the expiration of contracts. [3:21:19, 3:21:20]: This is one of them. [3:21:21, 3:21:23]: That expires at the end of this year. [3:21:24, 3:21:25]: It is [3:21:25, 3:21:30]: It has a nofied of the expiration of contracts. [3:21:31, 3:21:33]: At least a hundred and eighty days? [3:21:33, 3:21:35]: Prior to the expiration. [3:21:35, 3:21:38]: So that there is some type of evaluation or [3:21:39, 3:21:42]: The council is able to give some consideration. [3:21:42, 3:21:44]: This is another example. [3:21:44, 3:21:45]: Uh [3:21:46, 3:21:49]: A decision that's being dropped in our lap. [3:21:50, 3:21:51]: I cannot. [3:21:51, 3:22:00]: Approve the extension of a one year contract with a provider that I know our city has had. [3:22:01, 3:22:07]: the citizens have had concerns about. I will consider six months, but an entire year I will not. [3:22:07, 3:22:09]: But this [3:22:09, 3:22:10]: Item [3:22:10, 3:22:13]: was an item that was added to the agenda. [3:22:13, 3:22:14]: Just today. [3:22:15, 3:22:15]: We amended [3:22:16, 3:22:17]: Our council agenda [3:22:18, 3:22:18]: For today. [3:22:19, 3:22:20]: to add this item. [3:22:21, 3:22:22]: Once again. [3:22:23, 3:22:26]: This is a decision that's being drap dropped in our lap. [3:22:27, 3:22:29]: Dropped on our lap today. [3:22:30, 3:22:43]: It should have been made we should have been made aware of this prior to today. I'm not going to approve a one year contract with the current provider. I'm just not. Timing is important. [3:22:44, 3:22:48]: And so are all of the processes. You understand exact [3:22:48, 3:22:54]: This is the same issue I have been talking about for the past three years. [3:22:54, 3:22:59]: Абсолютні, а нотачation сервис а круче. [3:23:00, 3:23:03]: They are crucial services to the citizens here. [3:23:03, 3:23:04]: Y'all know it too. [3:23:05, 3:23:10]: Staff understands it too. So don't look at me as though it's my fault. [3:23:11, 3:23:17]: What I would suggest is that this decision, if you're looking for us to approve the renewal of this contract. [3:23:18, 3:23:20]: I would suggest that you bring it back to the council and [3:23:20, 3:23:21]: Next week [3:23:22, 3:23:23]: [12203.8, 12205.8]: Well that the other council members [3:23:26, 3:23:29]: that they would be here and they would agree to approve this. [3:23:30, 3:23:32]: Every single person here knows. [3:23:32, 3:23:46]: This is the same situation I've been talking about for three years. You're dropping it in my lap and you're forcing me to make a z decision to approve it and I'm not and I won't. Yes, ma'am. That's all. Respectfully, ma'am. [3:23:46, 3:23:53]: We put the bid out for sanitation in September. That was for for the new contract for in September. So this was done on time. [3:23:54, 3:24:00]: This is the same thing. [3:24:00, 3:24:18]: was predicated on the annexation is what caused this and that's the reason why this came. It had nothing to do with the contract this. That's running a separate track and running the track as we know it was if once a contract comes to that point, we put it out to facilitation and bid. [3:24:19, 3:24:24]: And that's what was done. That solicitation was put out in September of two thousand two twenty two. [3:24:25, 3:24:27]: All right. Do you have a comment, sir? [3:24:27, 3:24:35]: Mr Gardner, Mr Aaron, let me t look, what you all are doing is what you're able to do. [3:24:37, 3:24:47]: Everybody's been hurting for employees, every single company since the pandemic. You go to restaurants now, look at the qualities because people are hurting. [3:24:47, 3:24:52]: GFL has had people driving through neighborhoods and the driver [3:24:52, 3:24:57]: Is the same person that jumps out and grab a trash can, jumps in and dra I've seen this. [3:24:58, 3:25:00]: Everybody's hurting for employees. [3:25:01, 3:25:05]: And when you sit here and when we get new residents in [3:25:05, 3:25:13]: One thing's for sure is GFL's got thirty thousand trash cans or more out right now at people's houses. Equipment. [3:25:15, 3:25:21]: I would bet anyone to find out if any company can do that right now with everything is going on with supply, all of this stuff. [3:25:22, 3:25:39]: And to add now what you said, what what you said makes sense, Mr. Aaron. They've got residents that are now sti under GFL that is coming to the city. So the amount of equipment that they will need to be put out wouldn't be substantial as a new company. [3:25:40, 3:25:43]: We got a company that knows the city, that's doing what they do. [3:25:44, 3:25:47]: See one of the things I do, I know how to be an elected official. [3:25:48, 3:25:50]: I know meetings supposed to be ran. [3:25:51, 3:25:56]: I know what's supposed to be done as an elected official. I don't work off of emotions and feelings. [3:25:56, 3:26:00]: to dictate my d looking at what is needed in the communities. [3:26:00, 3:26:05]: What's needed is sanitation. What needed what is needed is a company that can provide it. [3:26:05, 3:26:10]: Not to sit here and belittle a company and do all this stuff. We're either gonna vote for it or you're not. [3:26:11, 3:26:12]: We don't have to go through all this. [3:26:14, 3:26:25]: This is we're making a mockery of this city coming right here from this elected body, these seats up here. It makes no sense. The right thing to do is to [3:26:25, 3:26:32]: agree to a one year extension of that contract because they can make the provisions and provide services for the citizens. [3:26:33, 3:26:36]: Simple as that. Whatever needs to be fixed, we fix it. [3:26:36, 3:26:40]: This is this is I never seen nothing like this before in my life. [3:26:41, 3:26:44]: I've never seen nothing like this before in my life. [3:26:46, 3:26:47]: This is the challenge. [3:26:48, 3:26:50]: Not what we have to do, but this right here. [3:26:51, 3:26:53]: And we got to realize people are watching this. [3:26:54, 3:26:56]: Online and coming here watching. [3:26:59, 3:27:05]: All right. Um so otherwise gentlemen you perforce we'll go through the process. [3:27:05, 3:27:07]: See we get a motion, get a second. [3:27:08, 3:27:10]: See what it passes. All right. [3:27:10, 3:27:11]: So [3:27:11, 3:27:21]: There's a motion on the floor or p excuse me, I need a motion uh to be made on whether or not uh the we're gonna accept the contract extension for GFL sanitation services. [3:27:21, 3:27:22]: Is there a motion? [3:27:24, 3:27:26]: Is there a motion? No moon. [3:27:27, 3:27:28]: Mr. Brown made a motion. Is there a second? [3:27:31, 3:27:32]: April Tim seconds that. [3:27:33, 3:27:34]: All favor motion, please indicate. [3:27:36, 3:27:37]: Oppose. [3:27:37, 3:27:38]: Of stain. [3:27:39, 3:27:44]: Say two zero one. Motion fails. This will be coming back on our twentieth agenda December agenda. [3:27:44, 3:27:55]: We can also as we get ready to leave, we can also incorporate performance standards into our to the agreement with them if that's Mr. Aaron, all due respect. [3:27:55, 3:28:00]: Because this is going way out south. We got another council member coming in now. [3:28:01, 3:28:03]: This is going way south. [3:28:04, 3:28:06]: And this vote has already been taken. [3:28:06, 3:28:08]: Trust me. [3:28:10, 3:28:14]: All right, so um on that. [3:28:15, 3:28:19]: Motion motion what term. Mr. Ayre, could you come back up here please? [3:28:22, 3:28:23]: I'll watch it a lot, I'm good. [3:28:28, 3:28:40]: Because I think that was Mr. Thomas' concern as well. And and all of us. I'd like to make a motion to extend the contract for one year with with also setting provisions for them for improvement standards. [3:28:42, 3:28:44]: Okay, first okay, is there a second in the motion? [3:28:44, 3:28:49]: I second. All right now. Back to the attorney. Back to the attorney. [3:28:53, 3:29:08]: Well no, that's that's what's that's what I was gonna think that that's what I was gonna ask. That's what I was gonna ask. I was gonna ask that question. Because nobody vote there was not there was no action done to the to the there was no I just wanna get legal advice. [3:29:09, 3:29:29]: Two zero one. That's not a action that's not an action move. Hold on a second. The motion didn't pass. Two zero one. It didn't pass. Normally normally have to pass motion or did approve it or disapprove it in these three votes. So we had a motion that did not get three votes. So it it didn't it didn't pass, all right, one way or the other. So now we're making another motion. [3:29:29, 3:29:32]: We have another member of the council make another. Can we legally do that? [3:29:33, 3:29:38]: No well It's a different motion. Well well it is a different yeah, it's verbiage is probably the same, but it's a different motion, yes. [3:29:39, 3:29:42]: has to be a different motion. I can't just reward it but that [3:29:43, 3:29:53]: No, no, it's a motion to approve one year contract for GfL with provisions to an improvement for provisions set by public works. It's a totally different motion. [3:29:54, 3:30:01]: Okay. That's it. Stand by. Don't go anywhere. And you made a motion, Mr. Blount, and Mr Mary Potem seconded the motion, is that correct? [3:30:01, 3:30:02]: Yes. [3:30:03, 3:30:04]: Okay. [3:30:04, 3:30:15]: All in favor No wait a minute, I'm sorry. Ma Ms. Gantt Ms. Gantt seconds the motion. I'm sorry. Ms. Gantt seconds the motion. Okay, I'm sorry. Ms. Gantt seconds yes, madam clerk. Yes, madam clerk. [3:30:25, 3:30:29]: That's what he just said mentioned, yeah. [3:30:32, 3:30:42]: They came to us, they came to us asking for a year's tension. And I said so moved. With the performance. No, no, no, it wasn't. No, he didn't say performance the first time. [3:30:44, 3:30:45]: I'm saying performance now. [3:30:47, 3:30:50]: The mayor read the motion off and I said so moved. [3:30:52, 3:30:54]: Tom said uh he's second. [3:30:55, 3:30:56]: didn't have any action to it. [3:30:56, 3:31:07]: This is this motion is totally different. It's a motion to extend the contract one year with performance agreements set standards set by Public Works, Mr. Aaron. [3:31:07, 3:31:07]: Yeah. [3:31:08, 3:31:10]: Mayor. [3:31:11, 3:31:13]: Yeah, we don't have to have fun. [3:31:15, 3:31:28]: No, and not if it's a different motion. And my understanding is a different motion. The first motion was just to extend the contract for one year, no extras to it. The second motion is for the extension for a year, but with the corrective measures in place. [3:31:29, 3:31:35]: Okay. Now motion was made and seconded. So discussion. Mayor Ford. Sir. [3:31:36, 3:31:37]: Excuse me. [3:31:37, 3:31:38]: Trust me. [3:31:39, 3:31:42]: I do understand and and Miss Barber's correct. [3:31:43, 3:31:45]: Uh with all of that. She is correct with that. [3:31:45, 3:31:46]: But [3:31:47, 3:32:03]: What's pressing upon me though is those citizens. Right. Yeah. And I and I'm gonna agree with Ms. Barber. You you are correct. You have been talking about these contracts and that and time matters for as we getting them. I I I agree with all of that. [3:32:03, 3:32:07]: But again, my concern is about these citizens. [3:32:08, 3:32:11]: And I don't I don't think we should penalize them because of [3:32:12, 3:32:19]: our misdoing. But I will be I will say I will agree though with those stipulations. Um [3:32:20, 3:32:40]: uh Mr. Aaron that you just talked about those improvement. So I can avote I can vote for this for twelve months with that codicle attached to uh this motion. And I will vote for that. Because again, yes, that need to be some improvement. And I think this is what y'all need to go back with them. [3:32:40, 3:32:46]: them with, but I can't approve of this for twelve months with that attached to the motion. [3:32:47, 3:32:56]: All right. I mentioned Mayor Ford. Yes, ma'am. As I mentioned, I would agree to approve an extension of six months. [3:32:56, 3:32:58]: But it's not a good thing. [3:32:58, 3:33:05]: Don't cut me off. Please allow me to finish my comments just as you allow everybody else. Go ahead. Go ahead and finish them. Thank you. [3:33:07, 3:33:08]: As I said. [3:33:10, 3:33:15]: Every one of us have heard concerns or read concerns and complaints. [3:33:15, 3:33:17]: From citizens in this community. [3:33:18, 3:33:23]: Of course, I understand the importance of having sanitation services. [3:33:24, 3:33:29]: But also I want to make sure that the quality of services that are provided. [3:33:30, 3:33:31]: That we [3:33:31, 3:33:36]: Do our very best to hold our service providers accountable. [3:33:38, 3:33:40]: I hear the complaints. [3:33:40, 3:33:42]: I read the comments. [3:33:43, 3:33:45]: I do not agree once again. [3:33:46, 3:33:47]: With a contract. [3:33:47, 3:33:49]: That's being dropped in my lap. [3:33:49, 3:33:52]: to be mak for a decision for me to be [3:33:52, 3:33:54]: making today. [3:33:56, 3:33:57]: This item was added to the agenda. [3:33:58, 3:33:58]: Today. [3:33:59, 3:34:01]: It's not like it was planned. [3:34:01, 3:34:03]: Two weeks ago and [3:34:03, 3:34:07]: you know, printed on the agenda. No, it was just dropped there today. [3:34:08, 3:34:14]: I don't wanna play any games. Councilwoman Gantt didn't just arrive just show up here out of the blue ten minutes ago. [3:34:15, 3:34:29]: She'd been watching Mayor Pornhub. Stand block. All of this mayor brought in my lap for me to make a decision. Absolutely. Those new residents who are being annexed in. [3:34:30, 3:34:32]: They were promised sanitation services. [3:34:33, 3:34:35]: January first. [3:34:36, 3:34:37]: Not in ninety days. [3:34:39, 3:34:41]: January first is what we said. [3:34:42, 3:34:49]: I agree there is a transition period. If you want to respond, Mr. Gardner, you can come over here. I'm watching your facial expression. [3:34:49, 3:34:54]: I'm watching your facial expression. If you have a response, you can come here and we can have a conversation. [3:34:55, 3:34:57]: My problem is. [3:34:57, 3:35:03]: This being dropped in my laptop and the fact that there have been complaints [3:35:04, 3:35:08]: For the past three years, and this council kips renewing. [3:35:08, 3:35:21]: The contract for the same service provider, the fact that staff, I don't know if Mr Mr. Aaron, have you addressed all the concerns over the past three years? [3:35:23, 3:35:30]: With this supplier, I I get it. I get that short staff, manpower, equipment. I get all of that. [3:35:30, 3:35:50]: Have you addressed the concerns? Yes, we have. And I think one of the things that came out of it was the online service request. So that reduced the call waiting and also allowed people that are more computer savvy, that want to do things online, they have that access and they have that capability to go online and schedule their service. [3:35:50, 3:35:58]: Had several meetings with them about the quality of service. And I said when I got here in 2016. [3:35:58, 3:36:01]: Calls and concerns with them were minimal. [3:36:01, 3:36:20]: Even before the pandemic, the year before the pandemic, calls were minimum. We did not have a lot of complaints and calls about services. Right around the pandemic time, that's when it started having an uptick in the number of calls and complaints. But like I said, prior to that, we didn't have any issues with the service. [3:36:20, 3:36:31]: Okay. And I can understand it. My first term the pandemic hit three months after me being here. So all I know is what I have experienced and seen and heard. [3:36:31, 3:36:33]: from the community surrounding [3:36:34, 3:36:36]: The service provider. That's all I know. [3:36:37, 3:36:41]: In addition to that, I know that there have also been um [3:36:43, 3:36:44]: Concerns with [3:36:44, 3:36:47]: Not having staff, pandemic woes. [3:36:47, 3:36:48]: Equipment. [3:36:49, 3:36:51]: All those things. [3:36:51, 3:36:53]: I wanna be assured [3:36:53, 3:37:03]: If I approve a one year renewal once again, because this council is known for just reapproving contracts over and over and over again. [3:37:04, 3:37:08]: I want to be assured that things are gonna be different, and I don't think that is possible. [3:37:08, 3:37:12]: I believe six months give staff may be enough time for [3:37:12, 3:37:15]: For them to put out another solicitation. [3:37:15, 3:37:17]: And do a very um [3:37:18, 3:37:19]: Aggressive. [3:37:19, 3:37:20]: Search so [3:37:21, 3:37:22]: For other [3:37:22, 3:37:23]: Suppliers. [3:37:23, 3:37:25]: or service providers. [3:37:25, 3:37:29]: Instead of just going along with the same ones that we've been using. [3:37:30, 3:37:33]: So six months should be long enough. [3:37:33, 3:37:35]: Not a whole year again. [3:37:35, 3:37:55]: Well well, here's one of the the issues and concerns we had when we discussed it. This every relationship we have with a vendor, I consider it a partnership. So we're asking them to move forward with securing almost 2600 garbage carts, and then we're gonna turn around and say, Well, three months later, we're gonna terminate your service because it'll take [3:37:55, 3:38:12]: them 90 days which is three months to get the carts delivered. So they'll provide that service for three months and there's a possibility that you're going to terminate their service, but we're asking them to make a leap of faith to say, we're going to provide these carts, you know, and we're going to [3:38:13, 3:38:33]: provide that service because the agreement says they have 30 days from the date they're notified of an annexation to start providing service to those residents. So they're not required by their agreement on January the 1st to start providing service. And there are some residents I've spoken with, they already have a service. They made the payment. [3:38:33, 3:38:48]: They've paid for the first quarter. So if we turn around and say, well, now we're gonna take that card and you're gonna have to start getting it from the city, then we gotta either we're gonna refund them their money or we're gonna bill them again for the same service that they've already paid for. So [3:38:48, 3:39:08]: You know, it it the transition is not as smooth as everybody thinks. It's just we notify them, they deliver twenty six hundred carts on the end of December, January first, they start collecting everybody. It it it has to be a period where we get this right, cause if not, then [3:39:08, 3:39:10]: Your phones are gonna [3:39:10, 3:39:30]: be ringing constantly because well I had service. Now I don't have service. Nobody collecting my garbage. I got this garbage piling up at my house. So we're trying to do everything within our powers to alleviate that issue by making sure we have a smooth and orderly process where we transition all those residents that are going to be [3:39:30, 3:39:50]: the impact that they get notified saying on such and such date, just like we did with Carrots Lakes, on such and such date, you will become a city of Stockbridge sanitation customer. And so if we haphazardly do it and start, well we add 50 here, we add some here, we add, it's not going to work. And it's going [3:39:50, 3:40:10]: To be a lot of confusion and we're trying to eliminate that. That's why we need the time to verify all these addresses because come June 1st, that information got to be to the tax commissioners. We're billing these residents for stormwater and we're billing them for sanitation. And we want that to be right. We don't want people calling up here and saying, why am I getting [3:40:10, 3:40:30]: A sanitation bill from the city of Stockbridge. I'm not in the city of Stockbridge. And also, GFL has got to have the time. They're going through that list as well, along with us, so that they can incorporate them into their current route because they they're not gonna be running all over the city. I got 20 over here, I got 30 over here. It's gotta be a smooth transition where the curve. [3:40:30, 3:40:50]: Current customers. It may be a few that changes days, but if the majority of them change their collection day, then that's gonna be another headache. So we're trying to alleviate that. And we think 90 days will give us sufficient time to address and work out all the kinks as far as how many parcels there are, what the route. [3:40:50, 3:41:00]: outs are gonna be and to get those carts delivered. GFL has told us, Mr. Garden, we had a conversation when they already got fifteen hundred carts on hand. [3:41:00, 3:41:11]: So and some of those customers, they're going through the list, they're already being identified as GFL customers. So we just wanna process like I say it [3:41:12, 3:41:29]: Even if a new provider, I've been through a transition where you change from one provider to another. We just went through it in Macon. I live in Makon. Our provider was worse than the worst. They got to the point. They brought in somebody else to start. And we made that transition. Guess it's been about a year. We're still having hiccups. [3:41:29, 3:41:49]: So it it's not as smooth as everybody thinks that you get rid of one company, then next month you got another company and everything is smooth. It's not. And we're trying to alleviate that. A year gives us enough time to make this transition as smoothly as possible because I'm telling you, we got the [3:41:49, 3:42:03]: holiday's coming up. Everybody's already getting to the mold. Keep with me next year. We just trying to make this a smooth transition for those new residents because if it does not go smoothly, we're going to hear it. [3:42:03, 3:42:07]: And we haven't even notified the residents yet because [3:42:07, 3:42:17]: We gotta we wanna make sure when we disseminate that information, it's correct, it's accurate, that they can trust what we say and we say it's gonna start on [3:42:17, 3:42:25]: April first or April it starts that day and they have their carts prior to that and they know their day of delivery. [3:42:27, 3:42:40]: And that's that's what we're trying to ensure because if you say six months, then it'll be actually like two months. So they providing twenty six hundred carts for two months. [3:42:41, 3:42:48]: if they're not the one that wins the solicitation. So we're just trying to make this transition as smooth as we can. [3:42:51, 3:42:52]: Ms. Gantt. [3:42:53, 3:43:04]: Uh yes, I just wanna apologize. I've been um to my daughter's concert, Dutchtown Middle School. That's the only reason. But on my way here I was able to um [3:43:05, 3:43:19]: watch a little bit of the I hear it on Facebook, the Facebook Live, the meeting as I and I was waiting downstairs. So um I'm prepared to vote. All right. Motion been made and then been second. So all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [3:43:21, 3:43:31]: Excuse me too. Yeah, yes, to what the motion yes, what the motion but Mr. Blount made. Are you in favor of that, right, sir? Okay, so all in favor, please raise your hand. All in favor? [3:43:32, 3:43:36]: All in favor? Yes. Okay. All opposed? Abstain. [3:43:36, 3:43:40]: All right, three zero one motion passed. Thank you, Mr. Aaron. [3:43:41, 3:43:46]: On the announcements and upcoming meeting events. Upcoming meeting events announcements. Council meetings will be held in council chamber. [3:43:47, 3:43:52]: City Council Chamber meeting dates, location, time, subject change, please visit the city website. [3:43:52, 3:44:05]: www.city of stopbridge.com for the meeting invitation Facebook page or contact City Hall offices 770-389-7900 for updates. [3:44:06, 3:44:26]: Citywide Development Authority meeting, 6 p.m. City Hall Levi Meeting Room, second Tuesday of each month, which is December 13th. Planning Commission meeting, special date. Thursday is 6:30 p.m. City Council Chamber is December 15th. City Council work session meetings is gonna be the 20th. [3:44:26, 3:44:46]: And we have several items on that meeting. That's uh Tuesday, 6 p.m. right here in the city council chambers. Downtown Development Authority meeting at 6 p.m. by bay by way of Zoom, third Tuesday of each month. And that's also December 20th. Youth Council Visory Committee meeting at 6 30 p.m. third Tuesday of each month in the Levi meeting room. [3:44:46, 3:45:06]: Right here in City Hall, December 20th as well. City Council meeting, second Monday of each month. City City Hall Council Chambers is January 9th, first meeting of our calendar year. Youth Council meeting at 6:30 p.m., second Monday of each month. City Hall Levi Meeting Room, January 9th. The Main Advice Main Street Advisory Board Meeting, 2nd. [3:45:06, 3:45:26]: Friday of each month at 9 a.m. at City Hall Levi Meeting Room. Upcoming city events, a continuous salute to veterans. Please forward your pictures of veterans, including name, branch, ranked years of service. As Merripo Tim Thomas presents a special tribute to local veterans. Pictures should be submitted to Rosalind Rawls at R. Rawls at City of Stockbridge D. [3:45:26, 3:45:31]: dash G A dot G-O-V. And of course thank you for your service. [3:45:31, 3:45:51]: And I have here please join Councilwoman Barber for a free zoom on every Saturday morning via affairs event center located seven four seven Davis Road Suite four hundred Stockbridge at eight AM Come out for free fitness. You got your opportunity to meet the mayor and talk with Mayor Ford on Monday, December nineteenth. [3:45:51, 3:46:11]: From 10 a.m. to noon, please contact Ros and Rawls to schedule an appointment 678-833-3348 or email at R Rawls at city of Stockbridge-Ga dot G-O-V. And now for my comments, uh want to first mention that uh we had an outstanding volunteer [3:46:11, 3:46:31]: volunteer gala to to s to actually thank our volunteers for this past year and for the last couple years of being volunteering for the for the city of Stockbridge all council initiatives and city events. Obviously the last two years, well two and a half almost three years now we've been in a pandemic. So so been a so we want to appreciate them and had a great [3:46:31, 3:46:51]: Great gala uh in Merrill Manors this past uh Saturday. Um and that uh we had some good uh the soul cartel band entertained us along with Isaiah Tatum, a saxophonist, a jazz saxophonist, uh entertained us as well. And a lot of awards and appreciations were given out to all the volunteers. [3:46:51, 3:47:11]: So I want to thank the council, primarily Mayor Pro Tem for bringing it forward, organizing and setting that up for success in this aspect as well. So that worked out well. Of course, as you know folks, uh, I mentioned just early in the comment that we're still really in a pandemic for all practical purposes. So you can get a vaccination uh show. [3:47:10, 3:47:30]: Shot almost anywhere in the immediate area. But Henry County Health Department does do that every day of the week from 9 a.m. to 11:30 or 1 p.m. to 2:30. They're located at 135 Henry Parkway. You can call and simple appointment at 470-664-0005. [3:47:30, 3:47:50]: And uh also you can get tested to the Red Hawk Field Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. Also located right down the street from the Henry County Health Department. And uh so otherwise you should also have your you've been vaccinated. Hopefully you had your second booster, and then actually I believe there's a third booster out there. [3:47:50, 3:48:10]: But also it's still flu shot season, so hopefully you'll get your flu shot as well. So you need to stay healthy until we eradicate this uh this uh uh virus as best as possible anyway. So it's all for the betterment of your good health. Um wanna mention to everybody, since it's the summer, happy holidays to you. And uh hopefully uh not hopefully [3:48:10, 3:48:30]: Hopefully we will have a good and prosperous new year in the city of Stockbridge where community connects. So I wish you west, uh wish you well during the holidays with your friends and family and loved ones in this aspect as well. So uh be safe. And uh on that note, council, believe it or not, I believe uh Mr. Gardner has some items for our executive session. Uh [3:48:30, 3:48:36]: uh that we need to discuss. And so I like a motion to a close executor session, please. [3:48:38, 3:48:43]: Yeah, I move that we go into an executive session for personnel, real estate and litigation. Thank you, sir. Second. [3:48:45, 3:48:47]: Mr Blount seconds that all in favor please indicate. [3:48:50, 3:48:51]: Two. [3:48:51, 3:48:56]: Three, okay. You say no? Okay, so I've got two four. [3:48:56, 3:48:57]: And [3:48:57, 3:48:59]: Got two four all poles? [3:49:02, 3:49:14]: Okay, so it's uh two one one. So we're not gonna exact concession. Uh so now I need a motion to end our council meeting then. So moved. Okay. Uh Ms. Gantt to second? Any second? [3:49:15, 3:49:18]: Sa sec, Mr. Mirapro ten second. All fair, please indicate. [3:49:19, 3:49:21]: All right, you vote and do sir to [3:49:22, 3:49:28]: Yes. Okay. That's a now decision. Good night everybody. Good night. We have now ended our meeting.

--- title: Work Session Meeting date: 2022-11-29 source: 2022-11-29_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:04:14, 0:04:15]: Okay. [0:58:52, 0:58:53]: That was the holidays. [0:58:53, 0:58:53]: Yeah. [0:58:57, 0:58:58]: What uh I [1:08:15, 1:08:32]: Just so you all know, we got a little delay based on a couple of things. One is that uh obviously we got a problem with our door downstairs. We want to make sure that people come in and out with no problem. And uh our attorney is l is delayed as well. But uh we got a few more minutes before we get started. Thank you. [1:08:45, 1:08:48]: [4130.1, 4133.9]: Oh no, I don't I don't know, I don't do that no more. [1:08:56, 1:08:57]: Right no more I I I [1:09:50, 1:10:01]: The front used to come back to the root. But it used to go back to where the root. Let that use away at the circuit. [1:10:24, 1:10:27]: I don't know if it's the staff denied the still. [1:10:39, 1:10:42]: Go do that. You know how that goes. [1:11:42, 1:11:42]: Mm. [1:12:12, 1:12:16]: Let's uh let's go ahead and get started with the media tonight, please. We have a quorum. [1:12:51, 1:12:53]: All right, ladies and gentlemen. Let's uh let's get started with our meeting, please. [1:12:55, 1:13:00]: So is it where's the clerk? Clerk's not there. Where's the clerk? [1:13:11, 1:13:19]: Mayor trying to call it order but the clerk is not here. The clerk's not here by not either but you gotta look at it. How your gentleman goes? [1:13:20, 1:13:20]: Yeah. [1:13:40, 1:13:43]: So we went on the desert. Yeah, we gotta we have Mr. Clus gotta be here. [1:13:44, 1:13:45]: Oh glad to go out of top. [1:13:46, 1:13:51]: But that's a number of that. I mean that's true. So we wait on her to come. Yeah, right, and then we'll be starting. [1:15:15, 1:15:18]: Okay, Madam Clerk, I know you just got back. You about ready to go? [1:15:26, 1:15:34]: Okay, good deal. All right, ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to call our council work session no Tuesday, November twenty-nint to order. It is six fifteen. [1:15:35, 1:15:39]: And on that note, invocation, Brad, please. Everybody stand if you can. [1:15:47, 1:16:07]: All right, let us break. Father God, first, we we come to you with thankful hearts. We just come out of Thanksgiving. And Father, help us all have that heart of just being thankful. Father, we ask as we proceed with the city business tonight that you make us, you help us all become worthy servants. [1:16:07, 1:16:16]: Worthy of doing how you would want us to do your will in the city of Stock Ridge, Father, and take ourselves out of it. [1:16:17, 1:16:22]: Father, we praise you. We love you in Christ's name. [1:16:22, 1:16:37]: Amen. Pledge allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag, the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [1:16:40, 1:16:41]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [1:16:43, 1:16:45]: Mayor Ford? Present. [1:16:48, 1:16:53]: Present. Councilman Alexander. Present. Councilwoman Barber. Present. Councilman Blount. [1:16:55, 1:16:59]: That the record were clear. Councilman Blount is not in attendance. Councilwoman Gantt. [1:17:01, 1:17:05]: Let the record reflect Councilwoman Gantt is not in attendance. Mayor Ford, you have a [1:17:05, 1:17:12]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate that. Mayor Pro Tem Thomas, please. We have an amendment to the agenda, please. Mayor and Council. [1:17:12, 1:17:15]: I motion to amend the agenda to add [1:17:16, 1:17:18]: Item thirteen. [1:17:18, 1:17:20]: Love negotiation [1:17:22, 1:17:23]: Certificate. [1:17:23, 1:17:26]: Is there a second? Second. Okay, all in favor, please indicate. [1:17:27, 1:17:31]: Thank you very much. Now council I need a motion to adopt the entire agenda, please. [1:17:31, 1:17:33]: So move. Is there a second? [1:17:33, 1:17:35]: Second. All right. All in favor, please indicate. [1:17:36, 1:17:37]: Thank you very much. Appreciate it. [1:17:37, 1:17:57]: Before you council, you have a review of the minutes. Draft minutes special call meeting October 3rd, 2022. Draft minutes council meeting um October 10th, 2022, and draft meeting minutes from the work session October 25th, 2022. So if you have any additional comments or clarification, please let the clerk know. [1:17:57, 1:18:01]: And our next meeting we'll be able to accept these and approve these minutes into the record. [1:18:01, 1:18:05]: On that note, Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments, please? [1:18:07, 1:18:11]: Okay, please. Uh public comment. Uh please come to the mic, give your name and address. [1:18:17, 1:18:27]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Good evening. Um my name is Giovanni Robbins, and my address is 127 Crown Park Drive, McDonough, Georgia. [1:18:27, 1:18:40]: three zero two five three. Um the reason I'm here is due to the ordinance for businesses in the city of Stockbridge, um with hair salons, barbershops, [1:18:40, 1:18:48]: Um and a list of other businesses. Can everybody hear me? Yeah, we can hear you. Go ahead. Um and um the reason I'm here, I signed a lease. [1:18:49, 1:18:54]: And I found out this morning that that lease couldn't be fulfilled. [1:18:54, 1:19:00]: And my question is, will the ordinance be changed? Will it be moved? Um [1:19:01, 1:19:19]: It are there any plans for that ordinance to be changed? Uh I would say no, actually. The ordinance is uh I don't think we're planning to make any changes to ordinance the current ordinance at this time. Okay. Um so yeah, that was the reason I come. So [1:19:19, 1:19:28]: Well, I'll tell you what, um I'll have the uh our city manager do a follow up with you in reference to anything else that you may be able to do in this aspect, all right? [1:19:29, 1:19:38]: Yeah, I put a substantial amount of money down on the lease and I don't know if there's any recourse for me to obtain my deposit and first month's rent back. [1:19:40, 1:19:46]: I don't know how I can I okay. I'll have the student manager follow up on you with you, okay? Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. [1:19:47, 1:19:49]: On that no no the public comments. [1:19:50, 1:19:50]: Okay. [1:19:51, 1:19:54]: We have a couple we have a public hearing, a couple items on public hearing. [1:19:55, 1:19:56]: So for the public hearing. [1:19:57, 1:20:09]: Uh please mute all cell phones and other electronic devices. If anybody wishes to speak tonight other on a public hearing item, please fill out the form available on the table and hand it to the city clerk before approaching the podium. [1:20:09, 1:20:23]: After each case is called, the council will hear from the city staff, followed by applicant or the representative regarding the proposed plans for property along with any other relevant uh information. The council will be free to ask questions at any time before the vote. [1:20:24, 1:20:29]: Following the applicant, anyone who wishes to speak in favor or opposed to the case will have the opportunity to do so. [1:20:30, 1:20:49]: Each side will be allotted ten minutes total. Additional time may be extended with the discretion of the counsel. Please keep comments and presentations professional, referring only to the facts that are pertinent to the case. We will not allow comments or personal attacks toward any individual or group. Please refrain from applause or comments from the audience during the public hearing. [1:20:50, 1:21:05]: After the presiding officer recognizes the speaker, he or she shall direct all comments to the presiding officer, and never to members of the council, staff, or the audience. All comments will be made from the podium, where you will be required to state your name and address for the record. [1:21:05, 1:21:25]: Please note that these hearings are not a debate. Failure to comply will cause you to be removed from the chamber and a building by law enforcement if you deviate from these proceedings. Other than the applicant, no person may speak more than once. The applicant may reverse reverse part of his or her speaking time reserve, excuse me, part of his or her speaking time. [1:21:25, 1:21:39]: time as a rebuttal and may speak next and last and may use the entire ten minutes allowed for the pro side of the application. If questions are raised, the council may ask the applicant to address questions and or concerns. [1:21:40, 1:21:43]: The presiding officer will call for a motion and a second to the motion. [1:21:44, 1:21:53]: And will have any necessary discussion. If the matter is not tabled, the presiding officer will call for the vote to recommend approval or denial of the request. [1:21:53, 1:21:55]: Okay on on that note [1:21:58, 1:22:06]: First public hearing we have tonight deals with the second reading, public hearing of proposed FY 2023 operating budget and capital improvement plan. [1:22:07, 1:22:08]: Mr. Gardner, please. [1:22:09, 1:22:16]: Yes, sir, um Mr. Mayor, Council members, um trying to pull up this uh slide real quick. [1:22:21, 1:22:22]: [4951.4, 4971.4]: There you go. All righty. All right, real quick. Thank you. As you know, this is our second reading before the adoption of the budget. Uh and so with that and with the recent events with the city negotiating with the with the cities as it relates to our share of the loss, we've uh amended uh budget. [1:22:51, 1:23:11]: budget to reflect not the expenses, which has stayed the same pretty much, but to reflect the revenues that we see coming in as part of the lost negotiations. What we predicated is a percentage are 11.5% that was negotiated [1:23:11, 1:23:31]: And I'll speak more a little bit more to that when it comes to the agenda item number thirteen, which is the certificate. But last week I sent you guys an email updating y'all on the results of the municipal meeting as it relates to our share of the thirty-four percent of the negotiated sales stocks that we did with the Henry County. [1:23:31, 1:23:51]: back in um November, early no early October. Right? And with that, we have adjusted for what we propose to see in terms of our revenues as it relates to sales. And that affects the general fund. And so you see we're now reflecting general fund revenues at 24.8. [1:23:51, 1:24:11]: versus twenty twenty-two point two. Um we're the surplus, which if uh if we stay within our budget will go into the general will go into the fund balance of the general fund. Um all other funds pretty much stayed pretty much the same with the adjustments made based on the comments that we got from council member um Alfonso Thomas [1:24:11, 1:24:31]: Um back um before the first reading reflects those changes that he had recommended that needed to be changed in the budget. And so we're proposing that the overall about the overall budget for the city through all funds is at 53.7 for revenues versus 51. [1:24:31, 1:24:37]: Fifty-one million for expenses with that surplus of two point six million. [1:24:39, 1:24:43]: Okay, council, appreciate that, Mr. Gardner. Any council, any questions for Mr. Gardner? [1:24:45, 1:24:53]: And yes, I did I did receive Mr. Thomas's email this morning at about two oh one to p AM. All right. Mayor Pro Tem go ahead please. [1:24:54, 1:24:57]: Running at midnight county. Yes, sir. Um [1:24:59, 1:25:03]: Mr. Gardner, as you know, during this whole budget process, I have [1:25:04, 1:25:06]: Um indicated [1:25:08, 1:25:26]: And I will use the word displeasure with with some of the things uh included in this budget. And I know you have mentioned on a number of c occasions that it's this is a challenging time for the city of Stockbridge. [1:25:27, 1:25:31]: And with that being said, I was hoping to see [1:25:33, 1:25:35]: some adjustments [1:25:36, 1:25:38]: to that revelation. [1:25:39, 1:25:40]: Um [1:25:40, 1:25:41]: I've spoken [1:25:42, 1:25:45]: Several time and I responded seven times, but [1:25:46, 1:25:47]: I'm still awaiting [1:25:48, 1:25:50]: My councilmates [1:25:50, 1:25:51]: For [1:25:52, 1:25:54]: their comments and their input [1:25:55, 1:25:57]: Because at the very next meeting [1:25:57, 1:26:00]: uh unless you are directed [1:26:00, 1:26:03]: To make some changes, then [1:26:03, 1:26:04]: Um [1:26:05, 1:26:07]: That is what we're going to approve. [1:26:08, 1:26:10]: Um and and [1:26:12, 1:26:16]: One of my issues in this budget is is the [1:26:17, 1:26:17]: Um [1:26:18, 1:26:19]: Is the hiring. [1:26:20, 1:26:23]: Of addition of staff. [1:26:24, 1:26:31]: which I I think we need to hold the line there. Um and I I don't wanna get [1:26:32, 1:26:34]: Too much in that because you know [1:26:34, 1:26:40]: Uh my comments on that and I shared this with the council as well, I copied them on my email. [1:26:41, 1:26:43]: But I'm curious, though. [1:26:44, 1:26:48]: to hear how other council members feel because [1:26:49, 1:26:52]: Um, in my mind there needs to be [1:26:52, 1:26:54]: Uh some directive [1:26:55, 1:27:06]: toward you to make adjustments if they feel that adjustments need to be made. I'm not one, as you know, to set on my hands. [1:27:07, 1:27:08]: Um [1:27:08, 1:27:11]: Because I think this is a collaborative [1:27:11, 1:27:13]: Process as far as [1:27:13, 1:27:14]: The budget. [1:27:15, 1:27:16]: And I know it says that [1:27:17, 1:27:20]: The city manager prepares. [1:27:21, 1:27:23]: But I am still under the contention that [1:27:24, 1:27:26]: It is prepared based on [1:27:26, 1:27:28]: The vision of a city. [1:27:29, 1:27:30]: And [1:27:30, 1:27:32]: The council need to [1:27:33, 1:27:34]: Uh project. [1:27:35, 1:27:36]: That vision. [1:27:37, 1:27:39]: And I'm still awaiting on [1:27:40, 1:27:41]: My councilmate to [1:27:43, 1:27:44]: To speak. [1:27:45, 1:27:46]: Um [1:27:46, 1:27:49]: And then if they choose not to, then [1:27:50, 1:27:55]: You know, uh so be it. I'm just one council person. But they know my [1:27:55, 1:28:02]: They know my contentions because I've shared every email to you. I've copied them as well. [1:28:02, 1:28:22]: So with that being said, Mayor, I'd like to hear from my councilmates. All right. Well let me let me start this and say well obviously you want to respond, sir? Yeah, real quick. Go ahead. Uh and and uh coun councilmember Thomas, um that was taken to heart, obviously, and and one of the things that that I've addressed with our department has as it relates [1:28:22, 1:28:23]: Two [1:28:23, 1:28:28]: to hiring is that any vacant positions that we have now will remain vacant. [1:28:28, 1:28:48]: Um outside of the police department. Um in terms of new positions that were created, those were positions that are in the budget that were approved earlier with the organizational chart that I presented to council. Um outside of that, the only new positions I uh that my it's my understanding that's part of the budget process were within [1:28:48, 1:28:55]: in the enterprise funds for positions that for stormwater. Um there was a budget m um analyst and a [1:28:56, 1:29:04]: um risk manager, which I think you guys approve for us to actually move in that direction. But outside of that, we're we're we're holding the line. [1:29:05, 1:29:06]: Um [1:29:06, 1:29:11]: You know, obviously from an administrative standpoint, if there are any vacant positions that are not critical outside of police. [1:29:12, 1:29:32]: We're you know, we're gonna hold off hiring those folks. Um, so there's and as it relates to like new positions being added, my understanding of it is the only ones that they're being added is gonna be through the Stormwater department. Am I correct? Or they might have already been vacant positions that we're gonna be filling, but um from from our review [1:29:32, 1:29:52]: uh the administrative side, on the operational side, you know, we're going to be very prudent as it relates to to hiring and bringing on additional people. I'm not proposing any new positions um outside of what I presented to you guys earlier in the summer. Um but yes we're we're looking at at that obviously as part of this process [1:29:52, 1:29:58]: as it relates to making sure we we hold the line on our hiring outside of police and outside of the enterprise funds. [1:29:59, 1:30:18]: Let me let me mayor let me get a be clear. Yes sir. Um one position is a already a funded position, as you know, the economic development director. So I'm not referring to that position. Yes sir. Yes sir. Um that is not a new position. Right. [1:30:18, 1:30:25]: Now you mentioned the organization of chart that was approved that included a number of [1:30:26, 1:30:34]: New position. Did I hear that correct? You you yes, in the summer you approve for us to add the three positions in IT? [1:30:35, 1:30:36]: Bring an IT in house. [1:30:38, 1:30:43]: with the director starting on board and then we were funding the other positions to start once the director comes on. [1:30:43, 1:31:00]: and does his assessment. There was a help desk administrator and a network administr uh network well, a help desk person and a net and a network server administrator position that I presented to you guys and you all said that was fine if we were taking over the IT functions. [1:31:01, 1:31:01]: Yeah. [1:31:02, 1:31:16]: Correct me and I need the other council members to correct me and I I will have to refer back to the minutes. I remember the conversation about a director and two other individuals. That is correct. Uh for the twenty twenty three budget. That is correct. [1:31:17, 1:31:18]: I don't recall. [1:31:20, 1:31:22]: That being approved, the other two. [1:31:23, 1:31:43]: And there are some other positions, um, risk management, budget analysts, and some others. Yeah. We're we're not we're not moving forward on the on the budget analyst position at this time. Um the risk manager, the fact that as I explained um back in the [1:31:43, 1:31:53]: the summer. You know, we're taking on fifty three plus police officers that are moving around with additional cars and haven't managed police departments before. [1:31:55, 1:31:56]: You have a teacher. [1:31:56, 1:31:58]: But police goes fast. [1:31:59, 1:32:00]: And sometimes they hit stuff. [1:32:01, 1:32:03]: And sometimes they hit people. [1:32:03, 1:32:09]: And you also have them in contact with people where sometimes in the process of dealing with [1:32:09, 1:32:10]: Criminals [1:32:11, 1:32:12]: Um people get hurt. [1:32:13, 1:32:18]: those type of functions, you you you're gonna need somebody who's actually gonna be looking at this. [1:32:19, 1:32:20]: Um [1:32:21, 1:32:37]: risk as it relates to our potential liabilities as our police officers patrol. But not only that, um, from a public work standpoint, making sure that these guys when they're out here and they're digging trenches, that these guys are getting their certifications because I will tell you [1:32:37, 1:32:39]: In twenty twenty I had a [1:32:40, 1:32:42]: Guy in the trench literally. [1:32:42, 1:32:45]: The three guys in the trench just came through. [1:32:45, 1:32:48]: training on how to set up that trench. [1:32:49, 1:32:53]: And one of those guys actually had a heart attack in the trench. [1:32:53, 1:32:55]: Right. Um [1:32:56, 1:33:10]: Yeah, the this that position as we grow is is only because as we grow and we take on more potential liabilities, that position is needed. My goal is not to fund that position right now until the second half of the fiscal year. [1:33:11, 1:33:16]: Well excluding the police department, excluding [1:33:17, 1:33:21]: Uh i if you will recollect, my comments was based on [1:33:21, 1:33:30]: other position, not the police department. Right. For an example, there was a position in community development. [1:33:30, 1:33:33]: Uh a permitting director. [1:33:33, 1:33:37]: Not happening. And there were some other position [1:33:37, 1:33:38]: This is my point. [1:33:39, 1:33:43]: In a document that that I would approve. [1:33:44, 1:33:46]: Uh those positions should not appear. [1:33:47, 1:33:53]: But th th those positions are not they're not they're not funded in this budget. We didn't fund I didn't fund the [1:33:53, 1:34:12]: Let me re let me say this. There is gonna we did not fund a permit director position in this budget. That was a request by the department head. So there were there was I believe seven positions that you had proposed. Um now not the position that we approved in 2022. [1:34:13, 1:34:31]: a IT director, um a management analyst in 2022. I'm not speaking to those. There were at least seven other positions that was proposed. So, but if you're saying then that [1:34:32, 1:34:41]: the final budget that you're going to present, those positions are not there, then I I I think we're on the same page. [1:34:42, 1:34:43]: I'm sorry. [1:34:45, 1:34:55]: I'm sorry. We we so in in the budget you saw the request that was submitted. We literally we are not funding the license permit position. [1:34:55, 1:35:04]: We're not fun we're not funding the budget analyst position. The budget the positions of the health desk technician and the network administrator are needed. [1:35:04, 1:35:06]: to if we're gonna bring IT in house. [1:35:07, 1:35:13]: The risk the risk person is the person, like I said, my goal is to to actually look at funding that in the second half of the year. [1:35:14, 1:35:16]: But that is going to be a position [1:35:16, 1:35:22]: Because of the way we are now conducting business, it's going to be needed to make sure we mitigate. [1:35:23, 1:35:27]: Our potential liabilities as our guys are out there working right now. [1:35:27, 1:35:31]: Yeah, we do not perform those some of those functions, and I think [1:35:31, 1:35:34]: The city clerk who has been in that acting role can tell you. [1:35:34, 1:35:38]: Part of making sure with a risk person is that [1:35:38, 1:35:47]: That person is out there on some of these work sites where these guys are working to make sure that they are actually working within Ocean and within all the required guidelines. [1:35:47, 1:35:48]: That's not being done. [1:35:49, 1:35:49]: Well I [1:35:50, 1:35:54]: Uh Mr. Garden, my my my response to that is [1:35:54, 1:35:56]: And and I know um [1:35:57, 1:36:10]: Councilwoman Barber had asked for uh reviews periodically and which uh we have not had and in my last email I pointed some of those things out. So you did. And [1:36:11, 1:36:12]: When that time comes. [1:36:13, 1:36:15]: Then I think we can evaluate. [1:36:16, 1:36:18]: Um those position [1:36:19, 1:36:20]: But again [1:36:21, 1:36:27]: And I'm looking through this document and I see a number of positions. But if those if these positions are [1:36:28, 1:36:29]: In [1:36:29, 1:36:31]: A process that we vote for. [1:36:32, 1:36:42]: then I cannot vote for this budget. But I hear what you're saying that that that these positions are not being funded. So I would have to have a clear understanding that these positions are removed. [1:36:43, 1:36:52]: all together and I will you and I will talk a little bit. I'm not gonna hog all of the channel, but we'll talk a little bit. But I won't but just know that if these positions [1:36:52, 1:36:54]: or part of the budget [1:36:55, 1:37:05]: Then uh you you don't have my vote on this budget. And I'm telling you this in advance. Yes, sir. I'm just only one council person. Understood. And and when you say those positions, are you including the the IT positions? [1:37:07, 1:37:14]: Correct and I speak to you to I speak to you about that as well. My recommendation for that. [1:37:14, 1:37:19]: I I'll I'll I will speak to to that, my recommendation for that. [1:37:20, 1:37:27]: Because again and this this is my issue. Yes sir. When you start bringing these positions in-house [1:37:27, 1:37:31]: Now we we these are challenging times. We've already established that fact. [1:37:32, 1:37:45]: But when you bring in new employees and you talkin' salaries, benefits, travel, training, equipment, uniform, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. [1:37:46, 1:37:48]: Those are the issues that I'm concerned about. [1:37:49, 1:37:50]: With new [1:37:51, 1:37:51]: position. [1:37:52, 1:37:53]: Excludin' [1:37:54, 1:37:55]: The police department. [1:37:56, 1:37:59]: And I don't want to get into that'cause I know the chief we've talked about [1:37:59, 1:38:19]: uh you know the grants and and you know we're moving forward with that and hopefully we will have new grants coming in which seem like it's going to self-sustain itself somewhat and I believe that the chief is gonna continue to go down that road even though in my last email I did have some concerns about the police department and I mentioned [1:38:19, 1:38:30]: those and you just indicated that you would respond to those. Yes sir. But again, salaries, benefits, all of that. [1:38:30, 1:38:50]: Though those are my concerns. Yes. And and remember when when I when I did those for you guys, I also illustrated to you guys what the the cost for IT service would be, um which had gone up to over$440,000. And it with salary and benefits, I I didn't put in there. [1:38:50, 1:39:10]: uniforms, but that cost would come in much cheaper than the the uh cost effective than the with going with the consultant at the four hundred and forty thousand we were saving by bringing it in house. If it if it was reversed, obviously that would be a decision I wouldn't have made. Um and also the fact that, you know, un [1:39:10, 1:39:18]: Not knocking our consultants, but as you know, one of the things that we like here is quick service and making sure things happen on on time and [1:39:18, 1:39:25]: and stuff. And so that's that was that those people would be readily available and for not only [1:39:25, 1:39:33]: Um council and when the council have issues with their technology, but also for our rest of our staff. Um [1:39:33, 1:39:42]: But as it relates to those to those specifically those two positions, if we're going to bring IT in-house, one person can't manage the system. [1:39:42, 1:39:46]: I d there's nowhere in this country where you will find where we've brought in [1:39:47, 1:40:07]: police department with technology and the technology that we're cur wanting to move and employ to get us more cost a cost effective and efficient, that can't be done by one person. I I I do have a recommendation. Yes sir. I've been waiting to hear it. And I and I'll I'll share that with you. And I do understand about the one person as a director, but we do have a [1:40:07, 1:40:27]: Firm in place now, and I think that contract ends uh in about a month, and I do have a recommendation uh based on that. Yes, sir. All right. Okay, thank you. On that note, obviously it's good to have some additional analysis on this whole process before we confirm this next month. But something I want to mention, logically speaking, uh we asked for [1:40:27, 1:40:47]: additional we asked for folks uh to join us join the city come become residents of the city so that passed barely but it passed all right so now we roughly have maybe an estimated 7,000 citizens coming into the city that we have to service and so it makes me just think logically that we will have to span some parts of our of our city [1:40:47, 1:41:07]: City staff to handle that. I don't know what the square miles is off the top of my head. I'm not sure about the number of streets and right-of-ways and things of this nature, but I would think there'll be part certain parts of our staff that would have to grow eventually sometime into the FY 2023 budget because effectively one January we gained roughly 7,000 additional funds. [1:41:06, 1:41:23]: So I'm assuming that that is something that we'll have to and besides the police department, outside of the police department, there probably other departments will have to grow. So something I would imagine that we need to look forward to and see how we justify that if that's the case. Yes, sir. All right. On that note that's all I need to say. Ms. Barber, you had your hand up. [1:41:23, 1:41:33]: I did. Thank you. Um, Mr. Gardner, uh several months ago when we talked about those additional positions such as the budget analyst [1:41:33, 1:41:35]: Um the risk management analytics. [1:41:36, 1:41:38]: All those positions. [1:41:39, 1:41:41]: We wanted to see. [1:41:41, 1:41:42]: What? [1:41:42, 1:41:44]: The paying class would be. [1:41:44, 1:41:48]: We approve for you to move forward with doing the research. [1:41:48, 1:41:50]: It was not my understanding. [1:41:50, 1:41:52]: That we were approving. [1:41:52, 1:41:53]: Positions for you to find. [1:41:54, 1:41:55]: So [1:41:55, 1:41:57]: Агри від Мера про Тен Тамас. [1:41:57, 1:42:00]: I do not agree with funding. [1:42:01, 1:42:07]: Um, all of those specific positions. I understand the need for the uh police department. [1:42:08, 1:42:08]: Um [1:42:09, 1:42:14]: However, the other positions. And the same with IT as far as bringing that in house. [1:42:15, 1:42:18]: My expectations was that you were gonna do the research. [1:42:18, 1:42:19]: The paying class. [1:42:19, 1:42:21]: Bring that back to us so we can [1:42:21, 1:42:22]: Do a comparison. [1:42:24, 1:42:25]: That is what [1:42:25, 1:42:28]: My expectations were. I wouldn't blindly approve [1:42:28, 1:42:45]: uh positions without even knowing what the salary is or what the range was. Guess what we we we illustrated a range when I did the presentation of what the hiring where where they would the hiring would be at. [1:42:45, 1:43:05]: I also outlaid in there the cost as it relates to benefits was what I presented to you guys when I presented this to y'all and I'll I'll send resend those back to you. Um but we did um when you say a pay in class that's something that obviously you want to do [1:43:05, 1:43:08]: [6189.6, 6205.0]: positions you'd wanna be do a paying class to see exactly where our current workforce ranks with other workforce around the metro or similar population size cities or that's what we we're c well, that is what I've become accustomed to. [1:43:25, 1:43:26]: Um Miss [1:43:27, 1:43:28]: Uh Wheeler. [1:43:28, 1:43:33]: has been able to provide that information for new positions previously zoned. [1:43:33, 1:43:50]: That's what I was expecting to come back to the council, the paying class, and then we would approve those positions. Okay. I I obviously I clearly misunderstood that I didn't know we we were gonna do a paying class study, but if if that's what's needed, we will definitely do that. And it should be something we do. [1:43:51, 1:43:55]: On from an operational standpoint, it's something we should do every two to five years. [1:43:55, 1:43:56]: Because as you know [1:43:57, 1:44:07]: dynamics change as it relates to positions as as you move forward in time. So definitely now that I know that that's something that we gotta do, I'll move forward with trying to get that out and making sure we take care of that. [1:44:08, 1:44:09]: Thank you. [1:44:10, 1:44:13]: My next question is regarding ARPA. [1:44:13, 1:44:14]: Where is that captured? [1:44:15, 1:44:15]: Here. [1:44:16, 1:44:17]: On your [1:44:17, 1:44:22]: presentation, the the balance of ARPA funds. [1:44:24, 1:44:31]: So the ARPA phones will be captured. Last year when we discussed ARPA, the usage of ARPA. [1:44:32, 1:44:33]: We allocate well [1:44:33, 1:44:37]: Іво суплос тобі алокати форбворкс проєкт. [1:44:37, 1:44:40]: And some expenses for the police department. [1:44:41, 1:44:42]: That is what ARPA. [1:44:42, 1:44:47]: was allocated for. So I just want to know what the balance is. [1:44:48, 1:44:48]: Currently. [1:44:50, 1:44:51]: Okay. [1:44:52, 1:44:55]: And how much of that did we spend in twenty twenty two? [1:44:56, 1:44:57]: Is that included here? [1:44:57, 1:44:59]: In your presentation? No, ma'am. [1:45:00, 1:45:02]: Sorry. No ma'am. [1:45:03, 1:45:11]: We'll get the balance. You're requesting about uh where we are with the balance of the offer funds and what we spent year to date for FY twenty two. [1:45:11, 1:45:31]: So will that change your totals at the bottom of this presentation? This is FY twenty three. So you're asking w w what would have we done as it relates to the funds alloc that we allocated um and FY twenty two, we'll we'll get that information to you guys hopefully by tomorrow afternoon. That shouldn't take long for us to effort. [1:45:32, 1:45:49]: But no, that's that's current under the current budget. That's under FY twenty-two. But we should be able to get that information from Kelly. She keeps track of our ARPA funds. I'll be able to share that with you. Okay. So we know that ARPA funds um expire at the end of twenty twenty four. [1:45:49, 1:45:58]: Yes ma'am. We have to use it. Correct. So um I'm curious to see [1:45:59, 1:46:05]: Um what the balances are. Okay. I want to know what what we expended for 2022. [1:46:05, 1:46:11]: And what we have planned for usage for twenty twenty three. Yes or no? Okay. [1:46:11, 1:46:14]: Um the other thing with the amphitheater. [1:46:15, 1:46:20]: Um I'm looking at several of the proposed expenditures for twenty twenty three. [1:46:21, 1:46:27]: And I just need an explanation on several of these line items equipment. [1:46:29, 1:46:31]: What equipment is it that we're looking for? [1:46:36, 1:46:37]: On page seventy nine. [1:46:55, 1:46:56]: Yes, ma'am. [1:47:06, 1:47:13]: I'm asking about the amphitheater complex the account specifically for amphitheater complex. [1:47:13, 1:47:15]: Is that the sixty power for that reason? [1:47:19, 1:47:39]: Yes, ma'am. As it relates to the question was under page under the budget, the re budget document we gave you guys, under page 79, which is the amphitheater, there's a sixty thousand dollars budget for equipment. That's what you're referencing. Yes, that's gonna be used to to use to get a lift. We currently rent the lift, but it's good for us to have a lift. [1:47:39, 1:47:59]: so that they can get up to this to the lighting equipment and some other stuff to change out those things on a regular basis. That's what that's for, ma'am. Thank you. Then the next one, construction costs. For$50,000 construction costs was still yes ma'am. That was a question I think um Councilmember Thomas had asked and we'd answered. That's actually related to any work that we have done. [1:47:59, 1:48:18]: to do to finish up the work on the on the stonewater detention. That may be part of our responsibility. Hopefully we'll be able to have that presentation by um Falcon Design as to what you know what they found when those when they were finally able to get to the bottom of the pond because it had been wet. [1:48:19, 1:48:39]: But they found that the pawn was deficient and as it relates to clay, and that was part of the reason. The other portion was the foam that's at the bottom, that you you can't really see it from the surface, wasn't long enough and that was an issue. And so the responsibility was what we were doing as it relates to who's responsible for that. [1:48:39, 1:48:44]: what portion of that work we would need to actually cover at some point to remove. Say it again, I'm sorry. [1:48:44, 1:48:55]: That that fifty goes to remediate any portion of the cost that we may incur, that we might have to incur as it relates to remediating some of that work that was done on the on on the pawns. [1:48:56, 1:49:04]: Is there not a warranty on the construction of those ponds? Yes, ma'am, there is, but [1:49:05, 1:49:17]: There's some portion of it that that um Falcon think that we may actually have to do that's that's outside of what the warranty may be as relates to the work that they did. Okay. Yes ma'am. [1:49:17, 1:49:20]: Okay, thank you. Um [1:49:20, 1:49:23]: But uh building improvements, what will that include? [1:49:24, 1:49:27]: So again, building improvements. [1:49:29, 1:49:45]: So as you know, we've we've had some incidents where a truck has hit the building once or twice. Um, I don't know if you've seen it. Most folks didn't because when you walk in you don't look up. But one of the box trucks that actually hit the soffit [1:49:45, 1:49:47]: of the the amphitheater. [1:49:47, 1:50:07]: Um and I don't know we ever found out which box struck or who it was, but when we have issues like that is part of the OM portion of owning the facility this big that that would go towards funding any of the O and M costs such as that that happened that we can fix and and keep the facility up. So would that not be a claim um submitted to our insurance company? [1:50:07, 1:50:23]: It depends on whether or not it meets the deductible. If if it's under the deductible, then we gotta pay it. So we're just being proactive, ma'am. I'm just trying to find opportunities for us to decrease some of these expenses where we can. Yes, ma'am. Um [1:50:25, 1:50:25]: Okay. [1:50:29, 1:50:35]: Okay, so there's a line item specifically for rental of equipment and vehicle. [1:50:36, 1:50:38]: For thirty thousand dollars. [1:50:38, 1:50:39]: Yes, ma'am. [1:50:40, 1:50:45]: You mentioned under equipment the You still have to rent sound [1:50:46, 1:50:50]: This the s the sound stuff, do we still have to rent those things'cause those are out of specific. [1:50:51, 1:50:53]: Thank you. [1:50:53, 1:50:58]: The landscaping. Is there a separate contract for that, just for the amphitheater? [1:50:59, 1:51:08]: It's com is combined with this proportion that's separated on that's items on this on the country or moving on. [1:51:09, 1:51:22]: Uh yes, Council Barber, there's a separate contract for the amphitheater. It was done that way so they can account for all the expenses that are generated by the amphitheater, so it's separate from all the other landscaping contracts. [1:51:22, 1:51:30]: Okay, so I'm confused as to why the actual expense of landscaping shows thirty thousand dollars for twenty twenty-two. [1:51:30, 1:51:34]: But we have budgeted for twenty twenty three seventy five thousand. [1:51:35, 1:51:47]: Well in actuality the monthly expense for the l landscaping at the amphitheater is a little over sixty one hundred six thousand dollars. So it's actually like seventy five thousand dollars for the year. [1:51:47, 1:51:51]: Okay, so the actual. Why is the actual? [1:51:51, 1:51:52]: Not [1:51:52, 1:52:03]: Because when we because when we do the budget, when we start uh uh putting the budget together, we pr we did the budget six months ago, back in July. So this cost here is really from [1:52:04, 1:52:05]: January with June. [1:52:06, 1:52:08]: We don't update it all the way up to now. [1:52:09, 1:52:10]: when you when you're dealing with the budget. [1:52:13, 1:52:15]: Because when we did when this budget was put together [1:52:15, 1:52:19]: It was put together back in July, back in June, June and July. [1:52:20, 1:52:22]: And from there [1:52:23, 1:52:26]: You can always change the proposed uh [1:52:26, 1:52:29]: budget them out, but when it comes to actual, you leave that alone. [1:52:30, 1:52:31]: Um [1:52:32, 1:52:36]: So I need to be able to see where we are. [1:52:37, 1:52:38]: Currently. [1:52:38, 1:52:58]: It i if i i think as mr desher said if that's covering the cost and the full year is sixty one, we'll make the adjustment to reflect sixty one versus are you able to make um the adjustments to all of this by the next the final please for the actuals for twenty four. [1:52:58, 1:53:15]: 2022. Yes, ma'am. When you bring this back to us, you'll have the current actuals. Yes, ma'am. Okay. Didn't have the contribute amount. I just for the for the record, the monthly cost for the landscaping at the amphitheater is six thousand one hundred and eighty-five dollars. [1:53:17, 1:53:19]: Thank you. [1:53:20, 1:53:21]: Mm. [1:53:22, 1:53:24]: We can't really change it. [1:53:25, 1:53:30]: Um it's the contract. We can't change it. We'll go we'll see what it is. So it's a lot of [1:53:31, 1:53:35]: blanks and I need to see the actual so I'll wait. [1:53:35, 1:53:37]: Thank you, sir. You're welcome, Bill. [1:53:38, 1:53:39]: Mr. Al Zara, go ahead, please. [1:53:39, 1:53:59]: Yeah, thank you. I appreciate that. Uh, we had some of these discussions behind the scenes uh with uh some of my councilmates. I'm glad that you clarified that those positions were not in the budget. They weren't budgeted to begin with. That kind of clarifies a lot of what my thought process was um in terms of where we're going um with these. But [1:53:59, 1:54:19]: But what's staring me in the face is uh a$2 million surplus in the budget, uh the revenue versus the expenses. And that is a great thing to say that we have I'm looking at um you know fifty-three million in revenue and I'm looking at fifty-one million in expenditure. [1:54:19, 1:54:39]: And that's because of the great of the um cooperation that we've had between the city and the county and the lost funding being able to come in and be able to be maintained. So that's a good news for the city. So when I'm looking at the budget, I'm looking at it from this point of, you know, where it is. And I always say it, and I think [1:54:39, 1:54:51]: I think y'all get tired of hearing me say it. You tell me what you need, I'll give you what you need. And so far I've been seven years, I've given you guys what you needed. You come back, and when you come back. [1:54:51, 1:55:11]: We haven't had any real problems with the budget. So when you asked me for something, but I did have some concern about those positions. But now that you've clarified that the positions uh will not be funded in the budget, that certainly does uh uh you know shed a new light when I'm sitting here looking at uh the win the the budgetary difference. [1:55:11, 1:55:31]: Difference, which is two million dollars uh uh uh revenue, which is basically what the city for the past since I've been on the council, I've been looking at that same number repeat itself over and over again. Two million dollars, two million dollars, two million dollars in terms of revenue over expenses where we've been able to return some of that. [1:55:31, 1:55:51]: money to uh the cat to the um to the uh reserve funds uh and where we were where we were going and our overall health of the city. I was out there knocking on doors to make sure that we uh passed this by a little bit, you know, in my private time, not as a city [1:55:51, 1:56:11]: Council member. And I did that because I wanted to make sure that we were able to increase the revenue pool for the city. And I think we've we're going to see a signific we're going to even see more than what we see here as these new businesses come into the city and they increase the overall revenue for the city. [1:56:11, 1:56:31]: Secondarily to that, I heard you say clearly that we spent four hundred thousand dollars on IT in that neighborhood. Is that correct? No, that's what the new contract for IT restate with into interdev would be$440,000. Right. That was the number that we were expecting, correct? Yeah. With the positions that and how [1:56:31, 1:56:46]: you outline this department you expect to see a actual decrease in that correct? Three hundred and sixty I think is what we budgeted for IT services, yes sir. Okay, so we'll be looking at a thirty about a thirty two thousand dollar reduction in that department. [1:56:48, 1:56:50]: Even though w with the way that you're not going to be able to do it. [1:56:51, 1:56:53]: With the way that you have it set up? Yes, sir. [1:56:54, 1:56:57]: Okay, so and that's outside of obviously, you know. [1:56:59, 1:57:05]: Every year as I uh as I tell council when we go through this process, your IT cost is gonna be citrical. [1:57:05, 1:57:23]: Right? Because as technology changes and you have to buy new sir upgrade your server or upgrade your your um security systems, you tend to spend and then you see their costs go down and two, three years later you see it kinda bump back up as technology changes and they're upgrading with with with the market. [1:57:24, 1:57:44]: But by bringing this in house, we expect to see these people working on the uh from from increases in from the south from what we pay for the services that will decrease, yes. Right. So what you're telling me in this department, we're looking at uh more resources being uh I mean uh less resources being [1:57:44, 1:57:50]: been expended upon this department, yet there should be a greater level of service. [1:57:50, 1:58:00]: I I I think that you guys would expect a greater level and so would I with this coming in house that you know we'll be able to move quicker, be a little bit more nimble. [1:58:00, 1:58:09]: Um, as well as, you know, the fact that we have folks on board that on a on a twenty four hour basis um will show will reflect that, yes sir. [1:58:10, 1:58:16]: Du could you do me a favor, is it I want you to put up a pie chart of the budget. Do you have one available? [1:58:17, 1:58:35]: That you can pull up. Because I don't wanna spend all of my time working on one percent of the budget or five point five percent of the budget or these numbers that we spend all these time throwing out these different things. I'm looking at it from here in terms of where we are year to year. [1:58:35, 1:58:55]: And and how we're looking in terms of uh that overall budget and the overall budget. Because in the end, if we're looking at spending my time studying uh what we're looking at in these figures, I want it to re I want it to be a valuable time where [1:58:55, 1:58:55]: Where we [1:58:56, 1:59:09]: Uh we were save some money or we recoup some money. And what you're telling me is that in I too IT we're gonna save some money, we're gonna recoup some money uh in this area and several other areas that we're looking at. [1:59:11, 1:59:16]: You're being very cognizant of uh what we have here. Okay. [1:59:18, 1:59:22]: C okay, it went black as soon as I put my glasses on there. Okay. [1:59:24, 1:59:31]: That's the ex the expenditure side as to where you gen where what department gets what as it relates to the general fund. [1:59:31, 1:59:51]: Absolutely. So police and public work, these are the big pies, uh uh part of what we're doing here. And then uh some of these things that we're talking about, where are these positions that we're talking about? I just want to make sure the public un where are these positions that we're talking about potentially finding? Where are they? The governing body? [1:59:51, 1:59:55]: Are they on um they're in the uh [2:00:08, 2:00:16]: You said what what were the positions So the positions that we're talking about that aren't in the budget, where are they in on this pie chart? [2:00:16, 2:00:17]: Well today. [2:00:18, 2:00:25]: They w they would be in the general fund, the r IT department, obviously, um, with the [2:00:27, 2:00:47]: The director, the network administrator, and the help desk technician would be in the IT department. Um the risk uh in this pie chart where where I don't uh is the IT is not not at IT is enumerated right here. Right. So at six percent. Okay. Of and then um the H [2:00:47, 2:01:07]: Department would roll up at 3% with the one position for the risk manager position. Um there was proposed, and as we said, proposed positions. This was would have been the finance budget management budget analyst in the finance department, which is here at [2:01:07, 2:01:08]: Five percent. [2:01:08, 2:01:28]: So basically those positions. They're not so these these these in on this pie chart, what you just told me is the what the positions that we're discussing, they're not even in here. No, sir. Except for the IT positions. Except for the IT positions. Yes, sir. And in the IT positions, we're gonna see pri basically uh [2:01:28, 2:01:40]: Uh you know, I'm sure that's a little bit there'll be a little bit of up or down, about thirty thousand dollars to thirty two thousand dollars in potential savings in that area from what what I'm seeing uh here. [2:01:46, 2:01:55]: Is it go is it going to be uh si thirty three hundred and sixty eight thousand dollars? Is that what uh around about there? That's what the projection is. [2:01:56, 2:02:02]: That's what you you at by at the end of the year I should that's uh I should be somewhere in that area. [2:02:04, 2:02:04]: Yes, sir. [2:02:06, 2:02:08]: That's what you stayed in the day, right? [2:02:09, 2:02:29]: The without having to do the the the quick calculator, but uh if my recollection was once we fund salary and benefits for the IT department, it was right around a hundred, three I think it was three hundred and sixty in the three hundred thousand dollar range versus the four hundred and forty that was presented to me. [2:02:29, 2:02:49]: As part of the renewal of the contract. Okay, let me let me get this straight again. It's not 400, it was 440. It was 450 versus 368. 360-ish. Yes. So we're looking at um, in addition, we're looking at 40 on top. So we're looking at about$70,000. [2:02:49, 2:03:09]: dollars in proposed savings. Of course, things happen. We know that number could change. Yep, the salary and benefits. That's the salary benefits. You still have the to run the department and keep up with servers and keep up with that would be the overall bottom line cost of the department. Right. I mean we have to pay for that anyway, right? Even with the four forty if somebody break down [2:03:08, 2:03:28]: We were accountable for that, right? That is correct. So that's what I'm saying. I I'm looking at it from that point of view, is that I want to make sure that we're being fiscally responsible, but at the same time, as a managerial, from a managerial side, I'm looking at it on a year-to-year and I'm looking at a savings, and I'm looking at a pickup in revenue. [2:03:29, 2:03:30]: And I'm looking at [2:03:30, 2:03:36]: additional let's say it like this additional customers coming into the queue [2:03:36, 2:03:41]: Seven thousand additional customers are coming into the queue. [2:03:41, 2:03:58]: So, you know, we're looking at uh return, those that's seven thousand additional customers that are coming through our turnstiles or we own the stadium or we own a on a venue. So we've added seven thousand to that in addition to what we're going at. So at some point [2:03:58, 2:04:18]: With the increased revenue, we should re we should be looking at reinvesting in ourselves. And I'm glad that you're showing physical constraint and that you're not jumping out there with it. And the last thing that I'm gonna say, and I'm gonna zip this up real quick. See, I keep hearing about this economic downturn, but [2:04:19, 2:04:26]: Black Friday set a br a big a record for the largest number of sales ever. [2:04:26, 2:04:27]: Right. [2:04:27, 2:04:29]: Cyber Monday, yesterday. [2:04:30, 2:04:34]: sent the largest number of cyber money sales ever. [2:04:36, 2:04:41]: I said Black Friday was the largest sales day ever on Black Friday. [2:04:41, 2:04:43]: On Monday [2:04:43, 2:04:59]: The Cyber Monday, the largest sales day ever. Yet we keep hearing all these experts talk about the gloom and doom and the uh and the consumer confidence. If consumer confidence was tragic was really down, folks wouldn't not be spending their money like they are. [2:05:00, 2:05:04]: So I'm not looking at the gloom and doom picture. I'm looking at revenue being up. [2:05:04, 2:05:11]: And I'm looking at growing the city responsibly while we can save money where we can save money yet. Thank you. [2:05:12, 2:05:22]: Uh Ms. Gantt, uh I would assume that you have some questions. Just a few. Um, I'm looking at the budget presentation that I have and their twenty twenty two budget [2:05:22, 2:05:26]: Is w how when was this captured? Because I'm looking at [2:05:26, 2:05:27]: The budget [2:05:28, 2:05:39]: And then the actual expenditures. What month was this? Was this recently captured? Is this really up to date? Mm-hmm. The actual is captured, it was captured in January through June. [2:05:40, 2:05:45]: Okay. So it isn't capturing up to now, up to this date. [2:05:45, 2:05:45]: Yeah. [2:05:46, 2:05:46]: All right. [2:05:47, 2:05:53]: And the reason I say that is I was looking at the numbers and we were well below fifty percent of spending on each [2:05:54, 2:06:01]: in every single budget. And I didn't know if that was you know, you do give some legal wiggle room there so that you don't overexpend. [2:06:01, 2:06:04]: But one of my concerns was [2:06:04, 2:06:06]: We're not even reaching fifty percent. [2:06:07, 2:06:20]: And so there were but if it's in June that explains it. So you typically try to start your you start your budget about six months out. [2:06:20, 2:06:40]: Right. And you start using those baseline numbers that you have six months to date. And then you extrapolate those numbers and kind of gear the way you're gonna end up. But reuse those actual numbers and then based on those actual numbers, you start doing that extrapolation as to what you think it's gonna be, knowing that obviously [2:06:40, 2:07:00]: It's still gonna be variable because things happen in between with different departments. But when you base your budget, so for uh for us, like I said, we look from January to June. Those numbers are captured, we look at those numbers and we start building the budget on that. If we were on a June, if we were on a July. [2:07:00, 2:07:02]: [7622.7, 7631.2]: Usually start the budget around December and you use that six-month snapshot and then you start doing your budget. That's typically how the budget is developed. [2:07:11, 2:07:23]: Right. So I I was just looking I was curious at what our actual yeah numbers are right now. When I looked at those numbers I was like that cannot be possible. So um [2:07:25, 2:07:40]: I know we again I know we give a little wiggle room, but not to that extent. And the key is So if I could get uh Mr Wiggins, if you can email me the actuals, I would love to see that. I would love to see the up to date numbers just to see where we are in each department. [2:07:41, 2:07:47]: Can I add on to that and say if you send it to her, probably send it to everybody so everybody has a good idea of what that looks like. Thank you. Please. [2:07:49, 2:08:01]: Any other questions for any questions? Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. Um Mr. Gardner, I I was listening intently to your discussion about IT. Um [2:08:03, 2:08:05]: I would like to see the analysis. [2:08:06, 2:08:09]: Uh in house versus contract. [2:08:09, 2:08:13]: And and and and I heard those numbers. Not not not tonight. [2:08:13, 2:08:15]: Uh but I heard those numbers. [2:08:15, 2:08:18]: And and that is a very thin margin. [2:08:19, 2:08:23]: Uh because in theory we can say one thing [2:08:24, 2:08:30]: But in actuality, when we start talking about colors, travel [2:08:30, 2:08:31]: Training [2:08:32, 2:08:33]: Others [2:08:33, 2:08:35]: It eats into that. [2:08:35, 2:08:41]: But I I I understand in in principle where you're trying to go and and I'm in favor of that principle. [2:08:41, 2:08:45]: But but I just need to be able to see a little bit more because [2:08:45, 2:08:47]: When you deal with contract [2:08:48, 2:08:50]: A lot of those things [2:08:50, 2:08:52]: You do not have to provide. [2:08:53, 2:09:08]: as opposed to what you have to provide in house. So let's take that in consideration, but I just like to see that that breakdown, that analysis, uh in-house versus contract. Thank you, Mayor. No problem. Any other comments? [2:09:09, 2:09:11]: Yes. [2:09:13, 2:09:25]: Because we did ask Mr. Gardner um to give us what his projection or the paying class would be with bringing IT in-house. [2:09:26, 2:09:28]: We don't have anything to compare the [2:09:29, 2:09:30]: Current contract width. [2:09:31, 2:09:34]: Um considering we're not rebidding a contract. [2:09:35, 2:09:36]: I need something. [2:09:37, 2:09:39]: To compare what we're currently paying. [2:09:39, 2:09:40]: What why [2:09:41, 2:09:42]: We're hoping to pay. [2:09:44, 2:09:50]: So if you're able to bring us back an analysis since we are not doing the competitive bidding process. [2:09:50, 2:09:51]: To determine [2:09:52, 2:09:53]: The best proposal. [2:09:54, 2:09:58]: And whether or not this is a viable option for us to bring it in house. [2:09:58, 2:10:01]: I need to see what the salary range is. [2:10:01, 2:10:03]: will be for [2:10:03, 2:10:04]: Those positions. [2:10:05, 2:10:07]: Considering we will be taking on the [2:10:08, 2:10:10]: Health and medical benefits. [2:10:10, 2:10:12]: And re certifications for [2:10:12, 2:10:15]: those positions regularly. [2:10:16, 2:10:19]: На час форті, бо [2:10:19, 2:10:22]: All of those new positions. [2:10:22, 2:10:24]: Even the ones that are not funded. [2:10:24, 2:10:25]: Um for the [2:10:25, 2:10:27]: FY twenty twenty three. [2:10:28, 2:10:29]: I wanna see what the [2:10:29, 2:10:30]: salaries would be. [2:10:31, 2:10:32]: Yes. [2:10:32, 2:10:33]: Thank you. [2:10:34, 2:10:42]: Any other comments from the council? If not, then I'm gonna open up for uh for the uh public hearing. So [2:10:43, 2:10:49]: For anybody's for the budget, having po uh positive comments, I'll start on my uh left side on left side. [2:10:50, 2:10:51]: Center. [2:10:53, 2:11:01]: Right. Okay. Anybody any comments against what's happening with the budget itself? Start on my left side. [2:11:02, 2:11:03]: middle. [2:11:04, 2:11:05]: Right side. [2:11:05, 2:11:17]: Okay, no comments. I see no hands. Uh public hearing has now been closed for this budget review. All right, since that is done, we'll move on to the next item. [2:11:18, 2:11:34]: Next item is once again it's a public hearing. It deals with the um proposed stop bridge redevelopment plan for tax a tax allocation district number one, downtown of North Henry Boulevard, North Henry Boulevard Corridor, presented by Mr. Gardner. [2:11:34, 2:11:35]: In Gary. [2:11:36, 2:11:37]: Monegan? [2:11:37, 2:11:38]: That's how you pronounce it? [2:11:39, 2:11:40]: Okay. [2:11:41, 2:11:41]: Thank you. [2:11:43, 2:11:43]: Mm. [2:11:44, 2:11:53]: I'm I'm gonna let Gary take over and um get into his presentation as to the update just to where we are with the um redevelopment plan. Gary? [2:11:58, 2:12:01]: Well good evening again, Mayor and Council. Um [2:12:02, 2:12:22]: I don't know if members of the public are here. I can leave it to your discretion if you want me to go through this presentation again. Basically, I was here three weeks ago and gave you a summary of what was in the redevelopment plan. Since that time, we finished the report, uh, delivered it uh to the city a couple weeks ago. [2:12:22, 2:12:41]: Hopefully you have seen it in your packet. Um and so basically I have the same presentation that I delivered before. Um before it was for the council's information, today it's for the public's information. I can go through it again if you want. If you don't, you know that's up to you, Mayor. [2:12:41, 2:12:54]: Council, what kind of questions do you have? Are you any initial questions uh at all? All right. Um how about this, sir? Is this being recorded? Okay. So let's go through it process. Okay, that's fine. Okay. Um [2:12:56, 2:12:59]: Uh let's see. Just give me [2:12:59, 2:13:00]: Good. [2:13:01, 2:13:04]: So basically as as I said, um [2:13:05, 2:13:25]: The way the redevelopment powers law works is you have one opportunity a year to create a tax allocation district. If that's what the city council wants to do as a matter of public policy. So you have until December 31st to adopt this plan. And if you fail to do that or choose not to do that, um [2:13:25, 2:13:43]: It delays the process for a year. So we basically have been working on this for the past few months, uh working with the city manager's office, um, and ha basically have gotten this plan to the point where you could adopt it at uh your next uh meeting. [2:13:44, 2:14:04]: Basically, what the way the law works is in order to use tax increment financing in Georgia, you have to create a tax allocation district. And in order to create a tax allocation district, you must have a plan. And the the local governing body yourselves has [2:14:04, 2:14:06]: [8046.7, 8057.4]: uh adopting the plan and stating that but for this plan redevelopment would would not occur and that would that resolution would be drafted for your consideration uh at your next meeting. [2:14:19, 2:14:19]: Um [2:14:21, 2:14:41]: In order for a TAD to be created, it must exist in a qualified area. So part of the process of this redevelopment plan is to uh create is to justify the creation of the of the district to show that the area you've selected to do this qualifies under the statute. And this side [2:14:41, 2:15:01]: Takes some language directly from the statute that defines what a redevelopment area is, which again would enable you to create a tad within this area. And these criteria are, you know, if they these are just some of the criteria which include pervasive poverty, high unemployment, high commission. [2:15:01, 2:15:05]: commercial or residential vacancies. Um [2:15:05, 2:15:25]: Uh stagnant or declining rents or sales prices for real estate. And I think what is most characteristic of this part of Stockbridge is the presence of older buildings that really don't have historical significance. There's certainly some in the area that certainly do, but a number uh particularly [2:15:25, 2:15:40]: residential properties are not historically significant and are relatively low value. And the area that we're targeting has certainly grown slower than the city as a whole in terms of its property tax digest. [2:15:41, 2:16:01]: We identified within the proposed TAD almost a half a million square feet of buildings that are more than 40 years old. And if you just look at commercial property values along North Henry Boulevard, I did a pretty extensive analysis of parcel-by-parcel data. And up until the recent commercial reval, there's an argument that commercial property value [2:16:01, 2:16:21]: Property values have been declining, not increasing in this part of the city. So the the long and short of it is that it definitely qualifies as a redevelopment area. And this map shows the part of the city that we analyzed and looked at and suggest that you designate as a redevelopment area. [2:16:21, 2:16:28]: development area and the t tax allocation district would actually cover a portion of this area, not all of it. [2:16:28, 2:16:32]: А the area has a population of about seventy seven hundred. [2:16:33, 2:16:53]: Um it's 26% of the city's population today. You'll be adding another 7,700 people next year with annexation. So it's about population-wise, about the same size as the area that is about to be annexed into the city. Population and household growth in this part of the city has been about 1% lower. [2:16:53, 2:17:13]: Lower than the city average. The main difference between this and the rest of Stockbridge is uh the home ownership rate. About half the households in this part of the city are renters, and that's not just because of apartment complexes in the area, it's also because a significant number of your single-family homes [2:17:13, 2:17:18]: And this part of the city are owned by investors and rented rather than uh ho being owned or occupied. [2:17:20, 2:17:40]: Median owner occupied owner occupied housing value is 30% lower than the city, and excuse me, 30% lower than the city, and 37% lower than the county average, as is uh the median household income in this area. So again, it qualifies under the statute as being a redevelopment. [2:17:40, 2:17:52]: Development area. So within it, you can create a tax allocation district. And a tad is simply a list of tax parcels. They have to be contiguous, they have to be connected. [2:17:52, 2:18:12]: And it's just the area of the city where you would be allowed to use tax financing and provide incentives. And for the benefit of the public, oftentimes when the public gets confused about these districts, it's because they believe certain things that TADS do not do. [2:18:12, 2:18:13]: And [2:18:13, 2:18:27]: The main thing is that being part of a TAD does not oppose a tax increase on your property compared to anybody else in the city. It doesn't grant you property tax abatements. It doesn't entitle developers or property owners. Um [2:18:29, 2:18:39]: To give to receive abatements, they can apply for them, but they're not entitled to them. This has nothing to do with eminent domain or urban renewal. That's a different part of state law. You have [2:18:40, 2:19:00]: Parts of the city where that power has been used in the past, but it's not related to this part of the redevelopment powers law. It does not authorize you to spend money to issue bonds. Those decisions are come later. They would be considered by the city council at a later date. [2:19:00, 2:19:13]: Um and it does not bind the county or school district by your adopting this plan does not bind them to participate. They have to make those decisions later, hopefully in the early part of next year. [2:19:13, 2:19:27]: And again, it doesn't entitle any property owner or developer to receive TAD funds for any purpose. It just gives them the opportunity to make proposals to the city and request your participation and support. [2:19:29, 2:19:49]: So the tax allocation district that we've proposed consists of 345 parcels, a little over 500 acres. The tax digest associated with those 500 acres shown on this map is uh about$35.9 million dollars. That's an estimate. [2:19:49, 2:20:09]: Estimate. That would have to be confirmed by the county assessor after the plan is adopted. But I think it's pretty close. That represents a little less than 3.4% of the city's tax base today. With your annexation next year, it's probably 2% of your tax base would be in. [2:20:09, 2:20:13]: inside this tad. It would be a pretty insignificant amount. [2:20:15, 2:20:35]: There is almost 1.4, 1.25 million square feet of existing buildings in the TAD, including public property like uh City Hall, religious institutions, uh, et cetera. That's all buildings and structures. Uh the average age is 1970. [2:20:34, 2:20:40]: Uh that's you know forty two years, that's the average building age. [2:20:41, 2:21:01]: Um I found about 650,000 square feet of commercial buildings, taxable commercial buildings, excluding, you know, churches, public buildings, et cetera. Um the average age of those commercial buildings is 1972. And most of those buildings are along the North Henry Boulevard corridor uh at the bottom of the TAD. [2:21:00, 2:21:06]: Uh plus the few buildings that are in a little bit north of here inside the downtown area. [2:21:08, 2:21:28]: The average tax value of those buildings is less than seventy-five dollars per square foot. So to build a new retail space today, some of the new construction going on in the city, that costs, you know, taxable value of that space when it's finished is gonna be hundred twenty-five to one hundred and fifty dollars a square foot, some even higher, so that [2:21:28, 2:21:48]: Just gives you context of how low-valued commercial property is in this part of Stockbridge. And then we found 323 housing units, about 200 of them were multifamily units, and 134 single-family homes, of which about 40% were investor-owned rentals. And the average value of those homes. [2:21:48, 2:21:53]: Homes was less than a hundred and fifty thousand dollars, and the average age was nineteen sixty-six. [2:21:55, 2:22:15]: So if this TAD is created as of December thirty first, what would happen is that the digest would be fixed at that period of time, from that period forward until the TAD is dissolved, the City General Fund would continue to collect revenues based on that thirty five million thirty five point nine million dollars of digest that exists today. [2:22:15, 2:22:20]: So you would continue to get city revenues based on that value. [2:22:20, 2:22:30]: uh as would the county and school district. Uh if they choose to participate, then any increase in tax revenues from within the TAD [2:22:30, 2:22:45]: caused by the growth in value of property, based on projects you would implement like the downtown plan, based on future development of underdeveloped parcels today, that revenue would all come to the city under your control in a special fund. [2:22:46, 2:23:06]: Uh, most of that revenue would be county and school district taxes that the city would be able to use for redevelopment purposes. Since your millage rate is is non existent today and would be low in the future, uh really no downside to city taxpayers for you to be able to use that revenue inside the [2:23:05, 2:23:25]: The TAD for redevelopment purposes. And then I would also point out that only real estate taxes are pledged. So any increased revenue you get from within the TAD from local option sales taxes, from new retail, from personal property taxes, from business licenses, all of that revenue would be new to the city. [2:23:25, 2:23:30]: Uh and continue to go to the general fund even though those properties are in the TAD. [2:23:33, 2:23:53]: Um in terms of what is the development potential of this area, uh I was actually quite surprised um at what I think is the potential here. In addition to the downtown area that you've been planning for literally decades now, there's a lot of underdeveloped and undeveloped land. [2:23:52, 2:24:03]: Um east and west of this building. And those large parcels, areas where the most potential exists are shown on this map. There are five of them. [2:24:04, 2:24:24]: And I'll I'll go through them. Um the main one, the one thing that has to happen, I think, before anything else significantly changes in Stockbridge is you need to implement your downtown plan. Uh you've been implementing the public source, you know, portions of that plan uh since the early two thousands. You have [2:24:24, 2:24:44]: you you've invested in the new city hall, amphitheater, you have more public investments on the way, you've built parks, et cetera, et cetera. But so far the private investment has not followed. And that's the goal of this TAD is to create tax increment financing to enable you to track private development to your downtown. [2:24:44, 2:25:04]: And again, we retained the city retained TSW to update the earlier plans that have been done. You had the 2005 Urban Redevelopment Plan, you had a study that was called the RSV V Plan back in 2018. Basically, what TSW did was [2:25:04, 2:25:10]: consolidated those two plans and tried to come up with a realistic estimate. [2:25:10, 2:25:30]: Of how much physical development potential exists in the downtown area. Now, the city controls and owns a number of these sites and has the ability to influence future development. You obviously don't own all of them, and there's no guarantee that the private sector would participate. But I think you're in a good position to implement, if not this. [2:25:30, 2:25:32]: particular plan something that looks like it. [2:25:33, 2:25:53]: And as shown here, if there's 27 acres shown inside this area, currently, today it's it has a taxable market value of less than six million dollars because most of the property is tax exempt today. With redevelopment, it could easily [2:25:53, 2:26:13]: Support close to$90 million in value. We're talking 220 potential housing units, rehabilitation of existing commercial space, plus new commercial buildings and freestanding and mixed-use buildings. So that would be an enormous benefit to the city, and again, would create the kind of dining. [2:26:13, 2:26:20]: entertainment district, but you've had at least three plans that I've read that talk about that kind of thing. [2:26:21, 2:26:34]: In addition to that, we found there are two areas just east and west of downtown that are largely undeveloped. And at modest densities in value, those two areas together could [2:26:35, 2:26:39]: Add a hundred and seventy seven million dollars in ta in total value. [2:26:39, 2:26:59]: and$70 million in tax digest to the city over time. And I don't think this would happen overnight. I think this would happen after your downtown plan is well underway. But again, it would not take a lot of development. We're talking, you know, only 450 units, which sounds like a lot, but it's on 120 acres. [2:26:59, 2:27:18]: And there are several locations within Stockbridge where you've had that kind of density developed on Greenfield sites. So those two areas would create a lot of increment to the TAD, probably would not require a lot of city investment that you don't have not already programmed. [2:27:20, 2:27:40]: And then in addition, further to the west on North Henry Boulevard, there are three other areas that are significantly underdeveloped and could support new development and digest growth over time. And again, estimated, those are that's almost 80 acres associated with these three parcels. [2:27:40, 2:28:00]: They're partially developed today, but again, could easily support uh$90 million in future value, assuming maybe one of the sites goes as a multifamily site, one of the sites is a townhome development. That was before you at your last meeting. These numbers seem to be pretty achievable. [2:28:00, 2:28:07]: So when you add it all up, and again recognizing this is a long term forecast, this is twenty to twenty-five years. [2:28:08, 2:28:28]: Your the the value of the district could increase. You could this could be a part of the city that could easily support three hundred and fifty to million dollars worth of new development, again, over a couple of decades. Um going from 600,000 square feet [2:28:28, 2:28:48]: Feet to over 2 million square feet. Again, on 500 acres, that's not a lot of density. And the taxable full market value at build-out would be could be over$400 million, where it's less than$100 million today. That creates a a digest of um [2:28:48, 2:29:08]: At build out of excuse me, let me find this number. There's a lot of numbers on this uh table. Um a gross digest of about 165 million, compared again to 35 million today. So to me, this care this opportunity, even if you don't [2:29:08, 2:29:28]: believe that it's that big, even if it's 50% of this opportunity, it certainly merits creating the mechanism that would help you to achieve it. And it certainly merits uh spending significant effort as a city to try to make this happen and try to implement the temp the plans that you've again [2:29:28, 2:29:37]: I've read plants going back to 2002 where you've had this vision that you've been trying to implement. This mechanism would help you get there. [2:29:38, 2:29:58]: What this tape, what this graph here just shows what that build out could mean in terms of future tax revenues overall and future increment to the TAD special fund. This assumes that the city will enact the millage rate basically to replace the [2:29:58, 2:30:13]: County police district with a city tax to fund your own police department. This assumes you would pledge that millage to within the TAD to the TAD, uh and it assumes that the county and school district would participate at a hundred percent. Um [2:30:15, 2:30:35]: Which is to be determined whether they agree to do that. If they agree to do that, you can see that over 30 years, there's a total non-discounted dollars. Over 30 years,$110 million in revenue could be generated within this TAD if the redevelopment occurs. [2:30:35, 2:30:55]: What I've done in the second row is discount that the present value using a 60% discount rate, which would approximate what that revenue would represent if it existed today, which would be about$30 to$37 million, the equivalent today. Again, achieved over a long period of time, the first 50%. [2:30:55, 2:30:57]: fifteen years it'd be substantially smaller than that. [2:30:58, 2:30:59]: But again, if you're successful [2:31:00, 2:31:02]: That's what it could mean to the district. [2:31:03, 2:31:10]: And it gives you a significant cushion to negotiate with the county and school district if they don't want to participate at 100%. [2:31:11, 2:31:31]: What I did here is take you know a reasonable if the maximum is thirty to thirty-seven million, just take thirty million as an initial estimate of what you could leverage over time in current$20,$22, and what those uses could be, how those funds could be. [2:31:31, 2:31:51]: Could be used. And clearly the most important thing is to get private investment in your downtown plan. So the bulk of the funds are for direct incentives for what I call catalyst projects, most of which would be in the downtown area. We've provided some additional funds that could be used. [2:31:51, 2:32:11]: To as incentives to get owners of multifamily developments to invest in rehabilitating and increasing the value of apartments in and around downtown. There's a set aside for structured parking in case there's a need to build structured parking to support downtown. There's additional [2:32:11, 2:32:31]: Additional funds for public parks and amenities, basically small, and you know, much smaller than the investments you've already made in those types. And additional road road and infrastructure improvements. Again, the infrastructure underneath the downtown plan, you know, will need significant investment. So that's a blueprint. [2:32:31, 2:32:51]: Of how that 30 million could could be used over time. Again, would not be available day one. I'm not suggesting that in 2023 or early 2024 you issue a$30 million TAD bond. But over time, through a number of individual agreements or deals, you could leverage this much more. [2:32:51, 2:32:51]: Money. [2:32:53, 2:33:13]: Um the draft report that you that was delivered uh is about 80 pages long. In addition to what I've talked about in detail, it has a uh it designates the city council as a redevelopment agency, which means that you can delegate functions to your DDA, to your urban redevelopment. [2:33:13, 2:33:33]: Development agency, but ultimately you retain as City Council authority to make any decisions needed with respect to future bond issues, future development agreements with private parties. You're the ultimate arbiter of what those would be. Unless you choose to designate those responsibilities to the government. [2:33:33, 2:33:34]: [9215.0, 9235.0]: There's a long section that talks about consistency of this plan with your zoning ordinance, your future land use map, talks a lot about the LCI study. As a requirement in the law that you have to confirm the city's commitment to follow state historic preservation policies, you have historic preservation policies. [2:33:55, 2:34:15]: uh commissioned, so that is not going to be a problem. So there's a statement in there to that effect. It suggests that the potential life of this TAD could be as long as 30 years. It could go as long as 50 years by state law. The probability is it would probably be dissolved in less than 30 years if you were [2:34:14, 2:34:34]: Your objectives, you can dissolve the TAD at any time, as long as there are no outstanding debt obligations. Um I've tried to give the city the maximum flexibility to use whatever approach uh you want to use to finance redevelopment, including but not limited to issuing bonds. [2:34:34, 2:34:54]: You don't have to issue bonds if you don't want to. Just gives you that authority if you decide to. And as I mentioned, only real estate taxes are pledged to the TAD. We are not suggesting that you pledge personal property taxes or any portion of the local option sales tax, although you [2:34:54, 2:34:57]: You do have the authority to do that if you want it. [2:34:58, 2:35:18]: The last section of the report includes a school system impact analysis on the county school system, talks about basically the existing how many school kids come out of the city of Stockbridge today. What that represents per household has a forecast of how many. [2:35:18, 2:35:38]: Students are anticipated from within the TAD if redevelopment is achieved. It's a long-term modest increase to school enrollment. Hopefully, it will give you some ammunition and give the school district some guidance when you start talking about whether they would consent and under what circumstances. [2:35:38, 2:35:39]: Circumstances. [2:35:41, 2:36:01]: Again, this is where we are in the process, the public hearing today. Um barring um you know any significant changes to the plan, which you can ask for, uh it would be presented to you uh in a couple of weeks to adopt on the twelfth. Uh your legal counsel will prepare um [2:36:01, 2:36:21]: uh TAD resolution that you would act on at that time. You can rec you can schedule a second hearing immediately prior to that vote. And if you choose to adopt the plan, then the next thing to take place is that we would submit the list of TAD parcels which are in the back of the report. [2:36:21, 2:36:41]: To the county tax assessor to verify. When the county assessor finishes that, that request is then sent to the Georgia Department of Revenue. And if all goes well by end of January or February of this of next year. [2:36:41, 2:36:58]: you would get a letter from the Commissioner of Revenue certifying the existence of the TAD. And from that point forward, the county assessor is obligated to prepare a digest of the TAD every year until for as long as it's in existence. [2:37:00, 2:37:20]: And then the last step of the process is the county and school district really cannot do anything until you pass the resolution and the TAD is created. As soon as that happens, then I assume that the next step would be to go to the county commission first and then to the board of education. [2:37:20, 2:37:40]: Education and request consent to the TAD. And typically that happens when TADS are approved late in the year, as we are here. That would happen in the first quarter of next year. And hopefully you can get an answer and you start negotiating intergovernmental agreements. [2:37:40, 2:37:46]: I believe that's everything I have and I've [2:37:47, 2:37:52]: All right. Probably more information than you wanted to hear. Thank you, Gary. Appreciate it. Council, any questions for Gary at this point? [2:37:53, 2:37:57]: Just one go ahead, sir. City manager come to the podium. [2:38:05, 2:38:25]: Yes, sir. I appreciate this presentation and I I appreciate this entire process because this is proactive. This is bringing something to the table to us that can be used as a tool to grow and to do to develop the areas in the city that we want to do that with. [2:38:25, 2:38:45]: In the past we've had leaders in the city who, you know, we felt like as a council member myself personally that that would have to bring stuff. We'd always have to throw stuff out there and throw stuff out there. I just want to take this time and say thank you for bringing this forward because it's something that we needed to do and it's a tool and it's being proactive. [2:38:45, 2:39:05]: Had you not been in this position, I don't think we would be here now. So I I wholeheartedly support this process and I want to kind of move forward with it as quickly as we can. And uh I thank you for bringing it forward because we need these tools and these documents. This presentation is extraordinary to realize opportunity. [2:39:05, 2:39:07]: That's what it is. [2:39:07, 2:39:17]: millions of dollars in opportunity and advancements in quality uh in the downtown is which is exactly what we've been asking for. So thank you. [2:39:17, 2:39:19]: Any further comments from the council? [2:39:20, 2:39:40]: Okay, I will now open up this for a public hearing. I'll open this up. Any comments positive for uh this this process that we just went through that Gary just presented. On my left, in the middle, to my right, okay, seeing none. Any negative comments, comments said against this from our left. [2:39:40, 2:39:42]: Left middle. [2:39:43, 2:39:55]: Right. No comments. Okay, public hearing is now closed. Gary, thanks a lot for your briefing and presentations. Fantastic. And we look forward to seeing you in a few more weeks. All right? Thank you, sir. Thank you. Our uh good deal. [2:39:56, 2:40:07]: Okay, you got a follow question, Guaya, sir. Mr. Gardner, this uh rehabilit this uh redevelopment plan uh helps to aid us in being able to move forward with opportunity zones. [2:40:09, 2:40:22]: Yes. Um we we're already pretty much about two or three steps in that direction. Um with the fact that we've designated a redevelopment area. Um we've got the data on the area. [2:40:22, 2:40:42]: And unless they've changed something since I've done one back in twenty ten, twenty twelve, which I know they've changed some of the requirements. Um, we just have to go through DCA um and submit the required information to them to get the designation as an opportunity zone. And for those who don't know that's that allow for [2:40:42, 2:41:02]: For us, this is kind of a this tool is kind of a pre-construction. That's kind of a post post thing. So when we actually do have buildings down here, the opportunity zone would allow for us to give uh job tax credits for jobs that are in the opportunity zone up to [2:41:02, 2:41:08]: $3,500 per employee that you don't have to pay to the state. [2:41:08, 2:41:28]: That money can be reinvested back in your business to advertise or to make improvements. But that's the goal of the opportunity zone is to make sure that those employees, you don't pay employee tax to the state. Those funds can be used to put back into your business and make your business prosperous. They recognize that of [2:41:28, 2:41:48]: Obviously, the first three, four years of any new business is the critical part of that. And this would allow for those businesses to not have to pay those taxes to the state and um put investors, hopefully invest those monies. The only caveat that's in there is those employer, those employees will have to be with that employer for up [2:41:48, 2:41:53]: till the first year, then they qualify for this exemption if I remember correctly. [2:41:53, 2:42:13]: It's not automatic. And I just want to understand and I I want you to understand, the DCA director was here on the ground in Stockbridge, leaning forward to assist us with said the area, everything was in place, that we and wanted to help us with this package. [2:42:13, 2:42:30]: That opportunity zone blows this area up post as you said. Yes sir. We just need to make sure that we're moving down those tracks. I just cannot understand and and not emphasize enough. Ten jobs, thirty-five thousand dollars. That's correct. [2:42:32, 2:42:51]: There will be some employers and we got a hotel or whatever here that would create multiple jobs and it would be entitled to that. And it would put us in that target zone where these developers would put us at the top of the list for their projects because they would qualify for this. We need to move this along. That's the next one that'll be coming before you guys. [2:42:51, 2:42:58]: Thank you. You're welcome. Any other question from the council? Okay. Not thank you, Gary. See you in a couple of weeks. Appreciate it. [2:43:00, 2:43:07]: New business council consideration to approve the twenty twenty three public meeting schedule presented by Miss Holliday. [2:43:10, 2:43:12]: Good evening, Mayor Council. Good evening. [2:43:13, 2:43:22]: I am presenting tonight what is required for the city to publish the meeting schedule, public meeting schedule for the upcoming year. [2:43:27, 2:43:30]: We currently have for the city council [2:43:32, 2:43:33]: The planning commission. [2:43:34, 2:43:40]: The Main Street Advisory Board, the Downtown Development Authority, the Youth Council, the Youth Council Advisory Committee. [2:43:41, 2:43:49]: Public City uh public facilities authority, citizen police advisory council, development authority, and the URA. [2:43:49, 2:43:51]: The public facilities authority [2:43:52, 2:43:55]: Development authority and the URA will meet as needed. [2:43:56, 2:43:59]: The city council is scheduled to meet the second Monday. [2:44:00, 2:44:03]: of every month at six PM here in the council chamber. [2:44:03, 2:44:12]: City Council work session meetings are scheduled for the last Tuesday of every month at 6 PM. There are a couple of exceptions there. [2:44:12, 2:44:17]: with regard to holiday and some other conventions that may [2:44:18, 2:44:19]: Have that date to change. [2:44:20, 2:44:26]: The planning commission is scheduled to meet on the fourth Thursday of every month at six thirty PM here in the council chamber. [2:44:27, 2:44:31]: Main Street Advisory Board will meet on the second Friday at nine A. M. [2:44:31, 2:44:37]: of every month at the New Welcome Center on one at one thirty, Martin Luther King, Senior [2:44:37, 2:44:39]: Heritage Trail. [2:44:39, 2:44:46]: The downtown development authority meets on the third Tuesday of each month at six o'clock PM. Their meetings are currently [2:44:47, 2:44:48]: Virtual until further notice. [2:44:49, 2:44:55]: The youth council meets on the second Monday of every month at six thirty P. M. in the Levi Meeting Room here at City Hall. [2:44:56, 2:44:59]: The youth council advisory committee meets on the third Tuesday. [2:45:00, 2:45:03]: at six thirty PM every month in the Levi Meeting Room here at City Hall. [2:45:04, 2:45:18]: And the Citizens Police Advisory Council is scheduled to meet on the first Thursday of each month at six o'clock PM at the Stockbridge Police Department. If there are no questions, I would ask for a motion to approve. Mayor. Yes, go ahead, please. [2:45:19, 2:45:22]: I would like to motion to approve the public meeting schedule for twenty twenty three. [2:45:23, 2:45:28]: Okay, Ms. Barber second that all in favor, please indicate. Thank you very much. Appreciate it, Ms. Holliday. [2:45:30, 2:45:33]: The council consideration approved the twenty twenty three agenda timeline. [2:45:34, 2:45:36]: Miss Holiday, you were up once again. [2:45:36, 2:45:41]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. What I have next is the agenda timeline. [2:45:41, 2:45:49]: And that's a document that um we put together uh here in the clerk's office and it is used um [2:45:50, 2:46:10]: Where items are uploaded into the city's agenda software program by a specific date to allow for the preparation of the information to be submitted to the mayor and council for review one week prior to the upcoming meeting. As with the meeting schedule, there are some adjustments that were made on that schedule to allow for holidays. [2:46:10, 2:46:16]: and also any conventions and conferences that may cause that schedule to change. [2:46:17, 2:46:25]: If there are no questions, I would ask for a motion to approve. Mayor. Yes, ma'am. Going for a second. I move that we approve the agenda documents deadline. Okay, is there a second? [2:46:26, 2:46:28]: Mayor Pro Tem second Dad. All in favor, please indicate. [2:46:30, 2:46:32]: Thank you very much. Thank you. Okay. [2:46:33, 2:46:38]: Council of consideration approved the twenty twenty three holiday calendar presented by Miss Wheeler, please. [2:46:47, 2:46:53]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Good evening. Uh what you have before you is the twenty twenty three holiday calendar. [2:46:55, 2:47:07]: for your approval. One of the items that um has been added um for consideration is the Veterans Day, a federal holiday to be added to the calendar. [2:47:08, 2:47:14]: For twenty twenty three. I'm asking for approval on this holiday calendar. [2:47:15, 2:47:15]: Okay. [2:47:16, 2:47:29]: Council, do you have any questions? Have not any motion. Yes, ma'am. Go ahead, please. I move that we approve the twenty twenty three holiday schedule. Okay, sir, a second. Second. Um Mr. Mr Alexander, second that. All in favor, please indicate. [2:47:30, 2:47:31]: Thank you very much. [2:47:32, 2:47:33]: Okay. [2:47:34, 2:47:47]: Council consideration excuse me, uh council approval, the health and wellness program administered by the corporate health partners in the amount of five fifty through fifty-three thousand two hundred sixty dollars, presented by Miss Wheeler, please. [2:47:47, 2:48:05]: Uh yes, Mayor and Council. What we what you have before you is the agreement for the uh health and wellness program that is provided by corporate health partners and the number of services that they provide um to the employees in this health. [2:48:05, 2:48:06]: and wellness program. [2:48:07, 2:48:10]: Um each person um [2:48:10, 2:48:12]: Gets a review in a planning session. [2:48:13, 2:48:16]: Which фаміліаризи за клан ви та культур. [2:48:16, 2:48:25]: Here in the city of Stockbridge, and we determine various location and dates for screenings and results coaching to take place. [2:48:25, 2:48:38]: We offer they offer online wellness assessment and healthy risk assessments. And what this allows them to do is through the assessments, they're able to put employees in various categories to work on the [2:48:39, 2:48:59]: various issues that they may have. Many of our employees are have um diabetes, health, um, some healthy weight issues that we are still working on, and um some employees have had very good successes in these areas in reducing their A1 [2:48:59, 2:49:19]: And sea levels and getting off of cigarettes. The biometric screenings happen once a year where this assessment takes place for the employees. Each employee has received an individual risk assessment report from the biometric screening so they know exactly where they are and what they need to do to. [2:49:19, 2:49:27]: To work on those in those in those healthy areas. We receive a monthly progress report. [2:49:27, 2:49:30]: On the participation of the employees. [2:49:30, 2:49:32]: What has been um [2:49:32, 2:49:34]: The successes they have. [2:49:34, 2:49:39]: and the various planning sessions that will be m moving forward on a monthly basis. [2:49:40, 2:49:45]: There are incentive management programs. There's a re cohort report. [2:49:45, 2:49:54]: Each employee who participates in the program gets a 30-minute coaching session with a health coach, which helps them work towards [2:49:54, 2:50:03]: whatever healthy uh measures that they put in place for themselves. The city also participates in a citywide in the Atlanta area. [2:50:03, 2:50:19]: Um city challenge. We've had five participants in the past and we've done uh very well in measuring up against the other cities in the Atlanta metro area that participate in this program. And we also implement other type of [2:50:20, 2:50:21]: Um [2:50:21, 2:50:34]: programs where the employees can take care of five k can take a part of 5K runs or walks. Um they have other challenges sleep challenge, weight loss challenge. [2:50:35, 2:50:38]: various types of challenges to help them along. [2:50:38, 2:50:41]: with their um healthy goals. [2:50:41, 2:50:44]: So I'm recommending that the council approve. [2:50:44, 2:50:46]: They um health [2:50:46, 2:50:49]: and wellness program um for the city. [2:50:49, 2:50:50]: Thank you. [2:50:50, 2:50:51]: Council any questions? [2:50:52, 2:50:53]: Mrs. Barber, go ahead, please. [2:50:55, 2:50:56]: Miss Wheeler. [2:50:56, 2:51:03]: Yeah. I'm looking at this and it says exhibit A. Exhibit A to the client services agreement. But [2:51:04, 2:51:20]: I don't see the agreement. Is uh corporate health partners they currently provide services to the city? Yes. They do. Can you tell me what those services are they currently provide? [2:51:21, 2:51:22]: That is separate from this. [2:51:25, 2:51:36]: Well basically they provide they take they are basically they handle the program for the city. So they handle all the w health and wellness programs, they do the biomex [2:51:37, 2:51:39]: Metric screenings, they come on site. [2:51:39, 2:51:43]: They do all the healthy coaching for each individual employee. [2:51:43, 2:51:45]: That is a participant of the program. [2:51:46, 2:52:04]: Um they do the lunch and learns. The lunch and learns will be a part of upcoming 2023. We did not have them in 2020 the other two years because of the um COVID. They also provide um [2:52:04, 2:52:24]: Ongoing fifteen minute one on one coaching um with each employee for a health coach. The weekly meal plans, a healthy newsletter. So they provide a variety, they come on site. We've mainly been doing it virtually for every employee, and they get a healthy credit when they participate in these various um [2:52:24, 2:52:24]: Mm-hmm. [2:52:25, 2:52:30]: Health awareness programs on diabetes. Um [2:52:31, 2:52:41]: weight loss, um cardio you know, cardiac type of uh issues that a person may have, um, tobacco sensation. [2:52:41, 2:52:51]: So they provide a numerous of numerous of programs for the city employees. I'm sorry. What I'm asking is separate from this agreement. [2:52:52, 2:52:53]: Does [2:52:55, 2:52:57]: Corporate health partners provide [2:52:58, 2:52:59]: Other services. [2:53:00, 2:53:01]: For the city. [2:53:02, 2:53:11]: Other than what you're presenting to us. They do have optional services that they provide, but we did not select those because of the cost. Thank you. [2:53:13, 2:53:17]: Any other questions from the council? I do. I'm sorry. So we don't currently have [2:53:18, 2:53:20]: An active contract. [2:53:20, 2:53:27]: with corporate health partners. We do. Their current work they've been we are actively with them this year. Okay. Yes. [2:53:28, 2:53:28]: Mayor. [2:53:28, 2:53:32]: So all of those services you just described? Yes. [2:53:32, 2:53:37]: That is separate from this. You mentioned about tobacco sensation, about the [2:53:37, 2:53:39]: weight loss program, but that's a part of [2:53:39, 2:53:40]: Disagreement. [2:53:41, 2:53:42]: I wanna know what's [2:53:42, 2:53:43]: Different. [2:53:44, 2:53:47]: What is not included in what is being presented to us today? [2:53:48, 2:53:52]: Well, there's not gonna be anything different. The program is a continuous program. [2:53:52, 2:53:56]: Of what we have been given uh what they receive every every year. [2:53:56, 2:53:57]: Mr. Gardner. [2:53:57, 2:53:59]: Can you help me please? [2:54:00, 2:54:03]: My question is in terms of the [2:54:05, 2:54:11]: Main contract that we have with corporate health partners, because you're just presenting to us exhibit a. [2:54:12, 2:54:14]: The client services agreement. [2:54:14, 2:54:19]: I wanna know what is the main contract that we have with [2:54:19, 2:54:22]: corporate health partners, what does that cover? [2:54:27, 2:54:47]: Well, the primary services on exhibit A down at the bottom. It tells you right here where it says primary services. They have the the program for all eligible employees, the healthy break, snack, and incentive budget, and of course there are there's a management fee, but on the back of the exhibit, there's all the service. [2:54:46, 2:54:50]: that are included in the healthy [2:54:50, 2:54:53]: Health and wellness program. [2:54:53, 2:54:58]: So all of the services they have that that they currently offer and will offer in twenty twenty three. [2:55:01, 2:55:02]: Thank you. [2:55:04, 2:55:06]: All right, Miss Uh Gantt. [2:55:07, 2:55:15]: I have one question. That on the optional services, the Live Better, Feel Better Mental Wellbeing Program, is that two thousand dollars per [2:55:15, 2:55:19]: Um, per employee or is that just two thousand dollars? [2:55:19, 2:55:24]: That's two thousand dollars for a maximum class size of fifteen on site. [2:55:25, 2:55:31]: Okay. So it's per fifteen or t or ver twenty five virtual. Right. Okay. [2:55:33, 2:55:41]: So that means we would every twenty five ever we have what, a hundred and eighteen employees? We approximately a hundred and eighteen employees participate in the program right now. Okay. [2:55:43, 2:55:43]: Okay. [2:55:44, 2:55:53]: Um having said that, Mayor, I move that we approve the um corporate health partners client service agreement. [2:55:54, 2:55:59]: Okay, is there a second to motion? Second. Mr. Alzheimer's second that any further discussion. [2:56:00, 2:56:02]: If not all in favor, please indicate. [2:56:04, 2:56:05]: Okay, all opposed? [2:56:06, 2:56:07]: Abstain? [2:56:07, 2:56:08]: You abstain. [2:56:08, 2:56:09]: three zero one. [2:56:10, 2:56:11]: Okay. [2:56:12, 2:56:14]: Thank you, Miss Wheeler. Okay. [2:56:18, 2:56:25]: Okay, council consideration of to approve surplus items, public works trucks. Mr. Aaron, please. [2:56:26, 2:56:46]: Good evening, Mr. Mayor and Council. Come for you tonight to uh request that we be allowed to surplus nine vehicles that have exceeded their useful life. They range in age from 11 years old up to 24 years old. The average age is about 15 years. These vehicles have been sitting here [2:56:45, 2:57:01]: for at least six years, the six years I've been here, and we're running out of storage space at the maintenance shop and they have no more useful life to the city, so we're requesting that they be surplused and auctioned off on good deals. [2:57:03, 2:57:06]: Okay, council, any questions for Mr. Aaron? Uh Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [2:57:06, 2:57:08]: They're still operable, all of them? [2:57:08, 2:57:10]: No, ma'am, they're not. [2:57:10, 2:57:12]: They're not. Okay. Thank you. [2:57:13, 2:57:19]: Maybe yes, ma'am, go ahead, please. I move that we approve the auction surplus of the vehicles that are listed. [2:57:20, 2:57:30]: Okay, Miss Barber second that. Any further discussion? If not, all in favor, please indicate. Okay, unanimous decision. Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. Um [2:57:31, 2:57:51]: Aaron, actually you're coming back. Okay. Council consideration to approve the task order number forty with Carter Sloop, uh, twenty twenty two wastewater treatment plan improvements in the amount of three hundred and ninety-eight thousand two hundred dollars. Um and the funding source is PLOS five. Mr. Aaron, please. And Brad. Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. [2:57:51, 2:58:11]: Have Brad Holzinger who's the sewer superintendent. He'll speak on this item. But this is in keeping with the improvements we've been making. We've got a wastewater plant that's over 30 years old. So we're making improvements to make sure that we continue to receive gold awards for excellence in operations. But I'll let Mr. Holzinger uh detail what the [2:58:11, 2:58:31]: this project concludes. Thank you, Mayor and Council. As Mr. Aaron said, he he was kind of wrong on this. Some of this is fifty years old. Uh it's well out of its useful life. Uh this some of these items on here can even increase our capacity. [2:58:30, 2:58:32]: Okay. [2:58:33, 2:58:53]: I'm just gonna go through them real quick. I won't take much of your time. These the existing headworks and the version pumps, that will increase capacity and during high flows. Uh real habilitation of the existing uh equalization pond, that's where your flow would go so you could have more capacity. Uh [2:58:53, 2:59:13]: New aerators, dredging of the equalization pond. The pond's way over 50 years old. It's just full of sludge and needs to be cleaned out. Replacement of existing digester blowers. That's a compliance issue. These this equipment is 20 years old. [2:59:13, 2:59:30]: application to disk filters, this is again, it can increase our capacity. Provide automated valve diversion for uh surge tank. That's the same thing. More it's all plays into part with the capacity. [2:59:31, 2:59:51]: New vacuum truck discharge station where we bought our new vacuum truck that we spent a lot of money on. We're wanting to instead use outside contractors for certain things. We'll be able to collect everything we collect in our sewer system and dispose of it in one whack and not hire outside contractors. [2:59:51, 3:00:11]: contractor do it which be more sufficient and uh lot a lot better on our budget. Uh new plant generator, which is uh I'd say it's close to 40 years old. It's just well out of its life. Uh investigate and provide correction for nuisance tripping. [3:00:11, 3:00:31]: This is a real safety issue with the main power coming into the plant. Uh replacement of existing existing aqua aerobics control panel. That's the heart of the plant. Tells everything what to do. And to replace 200 feet of gravity sewer that's over here off Old Condiers Road that's [3:00:31, 3:00:32]: Got holes in it. [3:00:34, 3:00:37]: Thank you. Council, any questions to for Brad? [3:00:37, 3:00:38]: Maybe. [3:00:38, 3:00:39]: Yes, yes, man. [3:00:39, 3:00:52]: I would like to make a motion to approve um the task order number forty with Cardinal Slope twenty twenty two wastewater treatment plant improvements in the amount of three hundred ninety-eight thousand two hundred dollars. Is there a second? [3:00:54, 3:00:56]: I have a question. Oh okay. [3:00:58, 3:01:00]: What's your question, sir? Did you did you [3:01:01, 3:01:17]: No second yet. What's your question, sir? Yeah, he said you second already. Toby I I wanna this is a good opportunity to have a update. All of these are infrastructure projects. So with the infrastructure money being on the table, what is it that we're doing that's [3:01:18, 3:01:18]: Two [3:01:19, 3:01:24]: bring some of that money to Stockbridge and did these projects actually qualify for some of that money? [3:01:26, 3:01:46]: Well, we've got several projects that are being funded by ARPA funds. We just recently completed a project that was partially funded by C D V G, which was the uh Smith Barnes Sewer basin rehabilitation. And all of these things are geared toward remaining in compliance with our permit. We were having an issue with sewer overflow. [3:01:46, 3:01:57]: flows and also this project will allow us when we have those high flows, it kind of gives us, I guess, an opportunity to eliminate our [3:01:58, 3:02:18]: flows into the creek exceeding our permit limits because we'll have this equalization basin that we can divert flow to during periods of intense rain. And so when the plant calms down at after hours, we can send this water out without exceeding our permit. And this allows us some time to while [3:02:18, 3:02:38]: We're making repairs in the collection system, but we don't have the funding to make all the necessary repairs that are needed right now. This gives us time to address those issues and find funding. This allows us, like I said, during periods of high flow, we can divert flow to this oxidation pond and bring it back when the flows are reduced. [3:02:38, 3:02:57]: That prevents us from exceeding our flow limits at the wastewater line. I I understand this. I wanna know what we're doing to line up a lot of these projects that are coming forward for uh infrastructure bill money that's on the table. We're going through a very intense mister Who's in charge of the stormwater projects? [3:02:57, 3:03:17]: That's that's in public words. Right. That's you, right. Yes. So in terms of we had this overall discussion with TSW about our master parks plan and that whole stream area that and the erosion and all of that going on. All of that, all of those types of projects need to be submitted. [3:03:17, 3:03:37]: With the money being on the table right now, so you guys don't have to come to us because this is coming. Because it's gotta be fixed, right? We have a a bi-weekly meeting to discuss the parts master plan. We had one today. They're finalizing that. They'll come before Council on the 12th and give a presentation of what's [3:03:37, 3:03:57]: Going on with the parts master plan and it addresses the stream bank restoration and Gardner Park and Clark Park as well. But this product right now is dealing with our sanitary service. Absolutely. I just wanted while we were doing this was to update us to make sure that maybe the city manager can step up here and talk to us because there's I don't just want to there's money on [3:03:57, 3:04:17]: The table right now for everything that we're trying to do. What are we doing with our grants administrator to go after that money for these things that we're working on? Miss Russell is currently we're researching everything that's available to us. We had a conversation this morning at the ops meeting about C D BG grant opportunities. So we're applying for [3:04:17, 3:04:31]: For everything that's available that we can get, we're we're we're trying to get that money. So that's what we're trying to reduce the burden on on the city's funds by going out to grant funds. So we're being very proactive in that area. [3:04:32, 3:04:33]: Okay. All right. Thank you. [3:04:35, 3:04:38]: Any other questions for uh Mr. Aaron? [3:04:38, 3:04:48]: I do. Go right, please. Um Mr. Gardner and Mr. Aaron, you may be able to answer this. ARPA funding, I know that it covers um is it wastewater? [3:04:49, 3:04:53]: Yes, or is it stormwater? One of them it doesn't cover water, wastewater and stormwater. [3:04:54, 3:05:03]: infrastructure improvements and those are allocated in ARPA, the s uh public works portion was split among storm water, wastewater and drinking water. [3:05:03, 3:05:04]: Okay. [3:05:05, 3:05:08]: Um are you not able to use ARPA funding for this? [3:05:08, 3:05:10]: Yes, ma'am, we are. [3:05:11, 3:05:11]: Okay. [3:05:13, 3:05:31]: We're using a combination of ARPRA and SPLOS bonds. That's what we're using for these projects because you had some set aside and SPLOS5 for wastewater projects. So our allocation, we pretty much used all of our allocations that were given to us in ARPRA. So those have been committed and accounted for. [3:05:31, 3:05:36]: Okay, I'd like to see the ARPA balances. [3:05:36, 3:05:39]: and what the expense expenses have been. [3:05:40, 3:05:45]: not just for public works but for police department as well [3:05:45, 3:05:51]: Yes, ma'am. And and as it relates to when when you look at your budget, if you go to the capital budget, there's a chart in there. [3:05:51, 3:05:54]: And the chart outlines the project. [3:05:55, 3:06:15]: The pro and the year of the project as well as some the funding some of the funding sources as it relates to where the funds have come from for those projects. So you'll see a mixture of uh potential splots funds and opera funds or splot funds or general funds PLOS or water sewer, depending on where where the project comes from. But as it relates to um [3:06:14, 3:06:34]: Um Councilmember Alexander, yes. We're efforting every chance we get to see what funds are out there in in the in the ethosphere as it relates to grant funding for our public work projects. And if we qualify, because some of those come with criteria, and those criteria sometimes bump us out because we don't need them. [3:06:34, 3:06:40]: More but we are investigating every aspect of those to make sure that if we qualify for'em, we're going for it. [3:06:40, 3:06:50]: Well I guess m if I could go right, please you know, we got yes, we do have American rescue plan funds. But oh have we been allocated any of the infrastructure bill funds? [3:06:54, 3:07:00]: Yes, the option. A trillion dollars was out there. Right. So we're and we're if we qualify, we're playing for'em. [3:07:01, 3:07:14]: That's the key. You know, because all that money floating, that money comes with criteria, as you know, it's federal money. They gon set parameters. If we meet those parameters, we apply. We got a lot of needs. We apply. So get some of it. [3:07:17, 3:07:18]: Any other questions for Mr. Aaron? [3:07:20, 3:07:23]: Camp you made uh Ms. Camp made a motion. The motion was not seconded. [3:07:24, 3:07:31]: So this must must provide 14 or 70. You second, you second that. Okay. So uh no more further questions. All in favor, please indicate. [3:07:31, 3:07:34]: All right, fantastic. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you, sir. [3:07:35, 3:07:45]: Council consideration to approve the U Council to utilize the Merrill Manners Conference Center on December 9, 2022, between six thirty and eight PM. Six thirty P.M. to eight P.M. [3:07:45, 3:07:49]: And for the U Council end of the year banquet, Miss Harvey, please. [3:07:49, 3:08:09]: Good afternoon, Mayor and Council. Good afternoon. Um, like I said, we're simply coming before you today to seek abroof approval to utilize the Merrill Manders for December 9th, our year end banquet, where we are um acknowledging the students for the uh things that they've done this year, as well as the volunteers and community partners. Um, it was an oversight or um [3:08:09, 3:08:28]: of the approval so I know it's like super like right behind but we were um we were under the impression on October twenty fourth that we had approval so we wouldn't have come to you you know at this point. So I apologize for that. But when we did no real recognize that we didn't have approval we making sure we got on the agenda to get it approved from you guys. [3:08:29, 3:08:30]: Okay, questions, council. [3:08:31, 3:08:32]: Go right ahead, please, Mayor Pretin. [3:08:33, 3:08:53]: Mrs. Halv, I'm glad you mentioned that because that's one of the problems that I have with this. And a few months ago, you know, we we had this big discussion about policies and procedures. And I just want to make sure that you understand that the structurally, the youth council is [3:08:53, 3:08:55]: under the governing body. [3:08:55, 3:08:57]: Outside of [3:08:58, 3:09:02]: Any activity that is not approved in January [3:09:02, 3:09:06]: When the council approved your calendar [3:09:06, 3:09:24]: You have to come back before the city council. The facility, not necessarily the event. We do the event every year and it's always on the calendar. We just have to get approval to utilize the the facility. We didn't have a we didn't have a facility set yet, um, at the beginning of the year. Um [3:09:25, 3:09:45]: I don't have my calendar in front of me, but we do a year in bank. We just didn't use the we're doing a little bit bigger this year, which is why we're asking for the mirrormanders. But we usually do it a little more smaller and intimate. But since we're starting to get more business partners and sponsors, we're make you know kind of scaling it up a little bit more. So this is something that we've done, you know, for years. Um [3:09:44, 3:10:04]: Um uh councilwoman Neat used to do it too. So this is something we've just done on a smaller uh scale. Okay. I looked I looked at the 2022 calendar and I didn't see it, but but but but as it is though, you are correct as far as coming before the council. I do not have an objection to [3:10:04, 3:10:13]: to um this activity. But I tell you the problem I do have, and you may or may not know that um [3:10:14, 3:10:20]: A volunteer appreciation is planned Saturday the tenth. [3:10:22, 3:10:31]: We well let me back up. Um I convened a planning committee for the volunteer gala. [3:10:31, 3:10:42]: And when I asked Mrs. uh Joy well when I asked her and stated to her that I needed to get in the night before, she indicated that [3:10:42, 3:10:43]: This event [3:10:44, 3:10:46]: was already planned and you all was out [3:10:47, 3:10:48]: Doing [3:10:48, 3:10:52]: And we all looked in shock because none of us knew. [3:10:52, 3:10:57]: uh that this was going on and and this is the problem. And Ms. Jordan indicated that [3:10:58, 3:11:01]: In order for this activity to happen [3:11:01, 3:11:03]: The night before [3:11:04, 3:11:07]: that it's gonna be difficult and it's gonna be costly. [3:11:08, 3:11:09]: To come in. [3:11:09, 3:11:12]: And to prepare for an event the very next night. [3:11:12, 3:11:17]: We have a plan B. Um, if we're able to utilize the downstairs area. [3:11:17, 3:11:37]: Um if that's possible, we will be willing to do that. But again, we've kind of like said we we thought we had the approval on October 24th. So we put out the invitations. We probably got 90% um people of the people who were invited to already RSVP. So again, I said we put the inform, we did our part um and we were [3:11:37, 3:11:41]: We were told on October 24th that it was approved. [3:11:42, 3:11:55]: So I mean, uh we're trying to just figure out what, you know, my and I understand'cause I did see that when I seen I was like, Oh, that could be a discrepancy with the tenth and the ninth. So we talked on the side and said, Hey, maybe we can maybe utilize the downstairs area and still make it work. [3:11:55, 3:12:00]: Well, I personally I don't have a problem for that. But let me try to get a understanding. [3:12:00, 3:12:04]: And I'm trying to make sure we don't really have to revisit this again. [3:12:04, 3:12:13]: Um how how did you assume that it was approved on the twenty fourth? I'm I'm trying to go back. I don't realize We utilize our our liaison. [3:12:16, 3:12:20]: And it you always said you always told that it was approved. [3:12:20, 3:12:22]: To use the mirror mandus. [3:12:24, 3:12:27]: Okay, well, as you know then that was incorrect. [3:12:27, 3:12:30]: I I see that now at this point. Um [3:12:30, 3:12:41]: I think it was just maybe a miscommunication. It was approved by maybe events. I I'm I'm not that's I'm that's out of my hands. I'm a volunteer. Well we so I just did the proper protocol, which is go to our liaison to seek approval. [3:12:42, 3:12:56]: And and this is the reason why I'm speaking the way I'm speaking now, because we should not have to continue to to backtrack with with these elementary kind kinds of things. And everybody should know. [3:12:56, 3:12:57]: Espeші [3:12:58, 3:13:00]: The deputy clerk who was a liaison. [3:13:01, 3:13:21]: You know, to the youth council. Well again, um I don't know exactly the processes. That's not again, I'm a volunteer. Well this this so uh I'm saying as far as on the city side, but for as far as what we are supposed to do, which is uh when we have an event to pr present that and ask for approval, I'm not always the one that presents. So sometimes when we ask for things and we it's we come back [3:13:21, 3:13:25]: [11606.2, 11608.3]: W what is your position with the youth council? [3:13:28, 3:13:33]: I'm the chair of the youth council advisory committee. Okay. So you are held accountable? [3:13:34, 3:13:37]: For what exactly? For the youth council. [3:13:37, 3:13:45]: So if anything that needs to happen, if unless you have a designee to come before this body, then we expect you to come before this body. [3:13:45, 3:13:48]: So I just wanna be clear. Okay. So I'm not, you know, we don't [3:13:49, 3:14:04]: I just want you to be clear on on the process. You're clear. And I and we want to be able to do all we can for the youth council, but for us to keep ten continue to backtrack and to go backwards, it's very disturbing for me. [3:14:04, 3:14:12]: Where I I I would vote to approve using the downstairs. I don't know you had to see Mrs. Jordan and this council probably was okay with that. [3:14:13, 3:14:14]: But again. [3:14:15, 3:14:16]: I'm not [3:14:17, 3:14:19]: I'm a little disturbing what I'm hearing. [3:14:20, 3:14:23]: And and and we've been in this too long. [3:14:23, 3:14:30]: for us to be in this situation. And I see you shaking your head and barbing and weaving. And that's one of the problems right there. [3:14:30, 3:14:35]: See that's that's one of the problems right there. And so I would say that [3:14:35, 3:14:50]: Councilman, I asked for approval like we're supposed to by our s uh liaison and our liaison stated via email on October twenty-fourth that we were approved for the venue. [3:14:50, 3:15:06]: Well, I I can't speak to that, but I'm speaking to you as a chairperson. You have to understand the process, the policies and procedures. You have to understand that. Okay. And so when stuff come to you, you're supposed to know you should been able to say that is incorrect. [3:15:07, 3:15:10]: All right. So so let me just say this. [3:15:11, 3:15:14]: I'm okay, I'm okay personally. [3:15:14, 3:15:34]: with the U council coming to us getting approval to use the downstairs of the Murray Manus. I'm okay with that. And I will vote in favor of that if that's okay with the manager of the Murrmanners Conference Center. May I yield back. Okay. Miss Kent, please. Thank you, Mayor. Um [3:15:35, 3:15:38]: I'm not okay, Mayor Protein, the way you talked. [3:15:38, 3:15:49]: to a volunteer. I'm sorry. And I'm not okay. I'm living I it's my turn. I got the I have the floor. Okay, but I wanna respond to the I have the floor. I'm not okay with that. I don't care how long [3:15:49, 3:15:55]: Any volunteer. These are unpaid positions. They don't get a dime. Not one. [3:15:56, 3:15:58]: And I think it's unprofessional. [3:15:58, 3:16:02]: To sit here and chastise someone who actually stated. [3:16:03, 3:16:09]: That they went through the protocols of the liaison who works here. And when you went to talk about [3:16:10, 3:16:20]: the volunteer, the the whoever the steering committee, which I don't know who appointed who and gave anybody permission to create a steering committee for an event that's supposed to be a city event in the first place. [3:16:20, 3:16:22]: However I'm a responsible. [3:16:23, 3:16:24]: However [3:16:27, 3:16:28]: When I [3:16:29, 3:16:30]: was chair of the ethics board. [3:16:31, 3:16:42]: And that was years ago, before I became on as solicitor for the city or anything that was paid or received a a stipend or whatever you wanna call it. [3:16:43, 3:16:44]: It's a lot of hard work. [3:16:45, 3:17:02]: And all you can do you ask questions and this can be confusing. It's confusing to us as mayor and council. There have been times even as of recent when we didn't know our own policies or we were a little bit confused as to when we needed to ask permission to utilize our facilities. [3:17:03, 3:17:08]: This is not something that just you were not you've been confused as well. [3:17:08, 3:17:14]: This is not something I'm not no no, sir. This is not something Mayor Pro Tem I have the floor. [3:17:15, 3:17:16]: I'm talking. [3:17:20, 3:17:22]: Miss Harvey has done a great job. [3:17:23, 3:17:31]: Every time she comes up here, there has always been some type of blockage or anything else due to what reason, I don't know. [3:17:32, 3:17:38]: Do i it doesn't matter. This is about our youth and for our youth. She went through the protocol that she thought [3:17:39, 3:17:40]: She was supposed to go through. [3:17:41, 3:17:42]: You bound out? [3:17:43, 3:17:45]: It was already reserved, so somebody reserved it. [3:17:46, 3:17:48]: Somebody reserved that building. [3:17:48, 3:18:02]: And she went through that, but to sit here and be like, Well, you need to be responsible. You need this and this is your responsibility. Well, w it's our responsibility to know when we are supposed to ask permission for the Merrmanders and all that too. But sometimes it gets confusing. [3:18:03, 3:18:05]: And she corrected it. [3:18:05, 3:18:09]: She's not a child. She doesn't need to be chastised by you or anybody else. [3:18:10, 3:18:11]: Especially [3:18:11, 3:18:13]: when they are volunteers. [3:18:13, 3:18:19]: You wanna do a volunteer appreciation? Appreciate the fact that she's here, sitting here for hours, waiting. [3:18:20, 3:18:21]: Waiting! [3:18:22, 3:18:26]: To be told and to be chastised about trying to do something right for our children. [3:18:27, 3:18:33]: I have a problem with that. You can say whatever you want to say. Can I speak now? But there is nothing to recover from that. Can I speak now? [3:18:33, 3:18:53]: Yes. Okay. Number one, I don't appreciate you trying to get a few minutes. I don't care what you appreciate. Okay. Well let me Don't say you either. Hold you have the floor and I'll let you speak. Right. Now let me get in check. Let me speak. Get in check. Therefore we need for you to take control of this meeting. Let me just say this and I'm and I [3:18:53, 3:19:05]: I always you always pick him only you think Miss Gantt let him talk. Let's get this do it again. Ms. Gantt, please. Listen, let me let me say this to Ms. Harvey. I'm gonna speak to Mrs. Harvey. [3:19:05, 3:19:07]: As a volunteer. [3:19:08, 3:19:09]: We have [3:19:10, 3:19:19]: Over a hundred and fifty volunteers. And and I'm gonna repeat this, and I'm not taking this back. This is what I say about anybody. [3:19:20, 3:19:34]: that's going to take a role, whether voluntary or what, because it is important. And this is why we have policies and this is why we have procedures in play. We went through this a few months ago. [3:19:35, 3:19:43]: But I'm gonna tell you this: I got permission from the city manager to be able to speak with his staff to convene this committee. [3:19:43, 3:19:50]: I did it the right way. I came before this council and got approval. But I'll say this. [3:19:50, 3:20:10]: Let me finish if I may. Now you did not say not one word about she's rolling her head and she's batting her eyes and she this and that. That's respectful for me. I'm a center. Come on, folks. Now we we're getting out of hand. Okay, I just wanna just speak to her comment. No, I just wanna speak to Mrs. Gantt's comment. [3:20:10, 3:20:23]: Well I am a sitting elected official by the people. Yes, she she is a volunteer. But but for me, this is for me only that is no excuse. [3:20:23, 3:20:35]: for anyone, whether it's the deputy clerk or a chairperson of one of our boards that do not understand the proper procedures and the protocol, especially [3:20:36, 3:20:38]: Especially [3:20:38, 3:20:54]: When we went through this several months ago and and I'll say this, shame on Mayor Council. Miss Kent, please. I'm not confused about any policy and procedures that we have. I'm not. You may be, but I'm not. Okay. Hold on, Mayor, let me just say this, Mayor. All right. Let me just say this. [3:20:55, 3:20:57]: Oh hold hold on one minute. Let me just say this. [3:20:59, 3:21:01]: When misses Jordan [3:21:02, 3:21:05]: Brought this to our attention. [3:21:07, 3:21:13]: It was totally different from misunderstanding. [3:21:15, 3:21:16]: When Mrs. Jordan [3:21:17, 3:21:20]: Brought this to our tension. [3:21:20, 3:21:22]: There was no misunderstanding. [3:21:25, 3:21:27]: And it was not said. [3:21:27, 3:21:28]: That [3:21:29, 3:21:32]: The deputy clerk approved this. [3:21:33, 3:21:38]: From my understanding, according to Mrs. Jordan, this item was placed [3:21:39, 3:21:42]: to be uh conducted at the mural. [3:21:43, 3:21:45]: Without consent. [3:21:46, 3:21:48]: At no time, at no point. [3:21:48, 3:21:50]: Was it stated that [3:21:51, 3:21:55]: There was confusion about the process. [3:21:55, 3:21:56]: And I'm gonna say this again. [3:21:57, 3:21:58]: Espešile [3:22:00, 3:22:02]: When we had this discussion several months ago. [3:22:03, 3:22:14]: Now you just raised your voice and yeah, I I'm I you know I may apologize for for my tone being a little hyper, but I'm gonna still say this. [3:22:17, 3:22:23]: My expectation from any person, chairperson of a board, and and and don't forget now [3:22:24, 3:22:28]: We allocate twenty-one thousand dollars to this youth council. [3:22:30, 3:22:32]: That's accountability right there. [3:22:33, 3:22:42]: That's accountability right there. And I will always hold us and everybody else accountable. And I'll just say this. [3:22:43, 3:22:46]: People volunteer because they want to volunteer. [3:22:47, 3:22:49]: So when you come on that platform [3:22:50, 3:22:53]: You have to expect that there are gonna be some challenges. [3:22:54, 3:22:57]: And it's about learning for all of us and and I say this about the youth council. [3:22:58, 3:23:01]: And I want to say this to to the parents and to all of these kids. [3:23:04, 3:23:05]: This city council [3:23:06, 3:23:08]: approved of this program. [3:23:10, 3:23:11]: Two [3:23:11, 3:23:16]: Ворк в янг фолос а то девеп ледершіп тренин. [3:23:17, 3:23:18]: And good governance. [3:23:20, 3:23:23]: But if we are not going to exemplify [3:23:25, 3:23:26]: Good governance. [3:23:28, 3:23:45]: We are not doing our job and we have to call it a spade for a spade when it happened. And that and that's what I am doing now. If my if my tone was a little up, okay, I apologize for that. But my words and my message is still the same. [3:23:46, 3:24:06]: All of us at the adhere to the policies and the procedure. And that's the point that I'm trying to get over. So but Mayor, I'm gonna yield back. But I just want to say that Mayor, no, let's end this. This is a no. We don't need no more words. Okay. All right. What what one second here? Hold on, stand by. Stand by a second, please. [3:24:06, 3:24:24]: All right, ms Mayor Procent, appreciate it. Okay now so this a there's a there's a thought process here and what I understand from Miss Harley Harvey, she more they're more than willing to go downstairs on the on the ninth uh of this of December for this activity. Now um is there a motion on the floor to accept that? [3:24:25, 3:24:40]: At all. So moved. Okay. Oh, I can't make a motion. Oh, I can't make a motion. He made it. He okay. Alexander to Miss Cant. All right. Uh in in favor of them, a motion's been made in a second. In favor of the youth council using downstairs on the ninth of December. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [3:24:41, 3:24:54]: Okay. I have okay. I have a question. All right, there's all it's mass four four four four votes. Pass. What's your what's your thoughts? Miss Harvey, are you all still gonna come to the volunteer gay little? Thank you. [3:24:55, 3:24:57]: All right, there you have it. Thank you, Ms. Harvey. Appreciate it. [3:24:58, 3:25:07]: All right. Uh item number thirteen, uh loss negotiation certificate. And uh imagine this deals with a resolution as well. And Mr Gardner, please. [3:25:16, 3:25:26]: Good evening, Mayor and Council, once again. Um before you we have a resolution that certifies the law for the mayor to sign [3:25:26, 3:25:46]: For the certification of the thirty four thirty-four percent uh distribution, which I will read off. City of Hampton, five point five percent, city of Locus Growth, five point five percent, city of McDonough, eleven point five percent, city of Stockbridge, eleven point five percent, and this is [3:25:46, 3:26:02]: over the 10 year period of lost collection starting in 2023 to the year 3033. And Henry County will get the remaining share of 66 um percent. But as you know, there's another step in this process that [3:26:03, 3:26:08]: We have to go back before Henry County force so that number might end up changing our number as well. [3:26:08, 3:26:26]: So but that's what that's what was agreed upon at the meeting last week, um, with the mayors and the managers, um, in terms of the distribution of the thirty four percent that we agreed upon with this with Henry County and asking for authorations for the council to give the mayor the sign um the certificate. [3:26:27, 3:26:31]: All right. Is there a motion to accept this? So moved. Is there a second? [3:26:31, 3:26:34]: I second. Okay, Alexander Gantt. All in favor, please indicate. [3:26:35, 3:26:37]: Unanimous decision, thank you very much. [3:26:37, 3:26:57]: Okay, announcements and upcoming meetings and events. Council meetings will be held in the city council chamber. Meeting dates and locations and times are subject to change. Please visit the city's website. What city of stopbridge.com for meeting invitation link, Facebook page, or contact city offices at 770-389-7900. Main Street [3:26:57, 3:27:17]: Advisory board meeting second Friday of each month, 9 o'clock, 9 a.m. in the City Hall, Levi meeting room, December 9th. City Council meeting, second Monday of each month, City Hall Council Chamber, December 12th. U Council meeting 6:30 p.m. second Monday of each month, City Hall, Levi meeting rooms and on December 12th. Downtown development [3:27:17, 3:27:37]: Authority meeting six p.m. by way of Zoom, third Tuesday of each month, which is December 20th. Youth Council Advisory Committee meeting 6:30, third Tuesday of each month. Levi meeting room in City Hall, December 20th. City Council Work Session meeting Tuesday, 6 p.m. City Hall, Council Chambers, December 20th. Planning Commission meeting [3:27:37, 3:27:42]: meeting four Thursday at six thirty PM City Hall Council Chambers on the twenty second of December. [3:27:44, 3:28:04]: Continue salute to veterans. Please forward your pictures of veterans, including name, brand, uh, name, branch, rank, and years of service as Mary Port Tim Thomas. Presents a special tribute to our local veterans. Pictures should be submitted to Roslin Rawls at R R Raw, well, R Rawls at city of Stockbridge-Ga dot G-O-V. And of course, thank you for. [3:28:04, 3:28:21]: Service. Please join Councilwoman Barber for a free Zumba on every Saturday morning at Clark Park. Mayor Ford. Yes, ma'am. I'm sorry. Um due to the weather, we're moving inside now. It's at David Affairs, 747 Davis Road. [3:28:21, 3:28:26]: Sweet four hundred every Saturday at eight AM. Could you repeat that once again, please? [3:28:28, 3:28:40]: Could you repeat that location at and time uh location? Seven four seven Davis Road Suite four hundred. Thank you, sir. Every Saturday. [3:28:40, 3:28:51]: Okay. Councilman Blount will be hosting a tow dri a toy drive on Wednesday, November thirtieth. At is tomorrow, five thirty, seven thirty PM drop-off location, Savane Funeral Home. [3:28:51, 3:28:55]: Twenty seven fifty highway forty s uh forty two north in Madonna. [3:28:56, 3:29:16]: It has the address at 30253. Join uh please join City uh Stockbridge for the annual holiday festival featuring Santa and Mrs. Claus, a live nativity scene, live entertainment, inflatables, rides, DJ and food trucks on Thursday, December 1st, as 5 p.m. to nine p.m. and that'll be at the stopbridge amphitheater parking lot. [3:29:15, 3:29:16]: Yeah. [3:29:16, 3:29:18]: Please join us up. Yes, ma'am. [3:29:19, 3:29:22]: The holiday festival has been relocated to Clark Park. [3:29:22, 3:29:29]: No, no ma'am. I believe it's it's been reverted back. I had a conversation. Matter of fact, Mr. Gardner. [3:29:30, 3:29:31]: Yes, ma'am. Okay. [3:29:32, 3:29:35]: That's yesterday. It and it it deals. [3:29:35, 3:29:39]: Yes, ma'am, it deals with voting. It deals with voting, which I'm gonna talk about in a little bit. [3:29:39, 3:29:40]: That's what it deals with. [3:29:41, 3:29:53]: You're welcome, sir. Please join the Starberry's Police uh Department for Coffee with a Cop at the Drip Through Coffee at 50 Highway 138 on Friday, December 2nd from 8 a.m. to 9 a.m. [3:29:53, 3:30:08]: All right, and uh police department is is excited about announcing its first annual shop with a cop event on Saturday, December third, ten AM to North on North Henry Boulevard, Walmart, and Saturday, December excuse me for a second. [3:30:08, 3:30:28]: Once again, the police department decided about announcing its first annual Shop with a Cop event on Saturday, December 3rd, at 10 a.m. at the North Henry Boulevard, Walmart. On Saturday, December 10th at 10 a.m. at the Hudson Bridge, Walmart, where seeking children between the ages of six and thir to thirteen for this year's event. [3:30:28, 3:30:47]: For more information on how to participate, please email P D C O M M Affairs, A-F-F-I-A-I-R-S at City of Stockbridge-G-A. G-O-V. Once again, it's P D-C-O-M-M-Affairs at city of Stockbridge-G A.g. O V. [3:30:47, 3:30:56]: Bingo is back. Please join Councilman Blount on Wednesday, December 7th from 10 a.m. to noon at the Murrell Manters Conference Center for a great time. [3:30:57, 3:31:14]: Here's our opportunity to meet the mayor, talk with me on Monday, December nineteenth from ten a.m. to noon. Contact Rosland Rawls to make an appointment at 678-833-3348 or send an email to R. Rawls at the city of Stockbridge-G A.gov. [3:31:15, 3:31:35]: And uh my particular comments today also deals with really what's very important going right now. Uh Georgia once again is in the national headlines, a spotlight with a runoff election. Show constitutional right, ladies and gentlemen, to vote. And hopefully you're a registered voter and hopefully you have a chance. If you haven't voted uh yet, you will get a chance to vote. [3:31:35, 3:31:41]: tomorrow and on with on December second as well, to December second, seven A to seven seven A.M. to seven PM. [3:31:42, 3:32:02]: You can move to the main office at 40 Atlanta Street in McDonough, Merle Manders Commerce Center at 111 Davis Road in Stockbridge, the Forest and Hampton Library at 61 McDonough Street in Hampton, the Locust Grove Library at 115 Martin Luther King Jr. Boulevard in Locust Grove, JP Moseley Park at 1041 Miller's [3:32:02, 3:32:22]: Mill Road and Stockbridge and the Fairview Recreational Center from 35 Austin Road and Stockbridge. Early voting, once again, tomorrow is the 30th, all the way to the through Friday, December 2nd. Of course, election runoff election day is December 6th. As you well know, you have the incumbent, Senator Walk, and his opponent is [3:32:21, 3:32:26]: uh Herschel Walker, so it's your constitutional right. So please go out and vote. [3:32:26, 3:32:34]: On that note, of course we still have COVID's go still going on. We still have the fact matter of fact there's plenty of place you can get your uh [3:32:34, 3:32:54]: Vaccinations, get your boosters, get tested. But uh just in case, if you want to want to coordinate this with the Henry County Health Department, you can get uh your boosters or a shot uh from the Henry County Health Department, nine a.m. to eleven thirty a.m. or from one p.m. to two thirty p.m. and that's a one thirty five Henry uh [3:32:54, 3:33:14]: Parkway and you can call them and set an appointment at 470-664-0005. Once again, 470-664-0005. And COVID-19 testing is a Red Hawk Field, right down the street from the Henry County Health Department, Monday, Wednesday, and Friday at 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. [3:33:14, 3:33:15]: Yeah. [3:33:17, 3:33:20]: And please folks get the flu shots as well. [3:33:20, 3:33:30]: flu shots, boosters and get your shots uh for COVID nineteen. On that note, I have that's all the rest of my comments. It's my understanding is no exactly session, so I'm gonna ask the council [3:33:30, 3:33:36]: Uh for a motion to adjourn this meeting. So moved. Is there a second? I second. Uh Ms. Gantt second. All in favor, please indicate. [3:33:37, 3:33:39]: Okay, good night everybody. God bless y'all.

--- title: Downtown Development Authority date: 2022-11-15 source: 2022-11-15_Downtown_Development_Authority.wav --- [0:00:02, 0:00:10]: And good evening. Um, this is Roger Custon, and we are at the November uh Stockbridge Downtown Development Authority meeting. [0:00:10, 0:00:14]: And we will start off with a roll call. So Bob, will you please call us out? [0:00:14, 0:00:15]: Okay. [0:00:15, 0:00:16]: Uh Roger Custon. [0:00:16, 0:00:17]: Present? [0:00:18, 0:00:20]: Um Bob Swagert obviously are present. [0:00:20, 0:00:21]: Friend Barrett. [0:00:22, 0:00:22]: Present. [0:00:23, 0:00:24]: Uh Barber Richardson. [0:00:26, 0:00:26]: Present. [0:00:27, 0:00:29]: Uh Councilman Alexander. [0:00:32, 0:00:34]: And uh Maxwell Sears. [0:00:38, 0:00:47]: All right, we'll we acknowledge we have uh four of the members present, which constitutes a quorum. So we'll officially start the meeting at 6.05 p.m. [0:00:48, 0:01:08]: And um the first item on the agenda is to approve today's agenda, uh, but I would like to make a motion to amend the agenda to include an item under new businesses, which is new business uh to uh approve Mr. Brandon Bowen, who is uh also present, uh to represent [0:01:08, 0:01:20]: Present the DDA as general counsel. And I'd like to reorder that so that we have that item ahead of the officer and city staff report. So that would be the new item too. [0:01:22, 0:01:23]: Okay. Uh second. [0:01:24, 0:01:25]: Thank you, Bob. [0:01:26, 0:01:27]: Any discussion? [0:01:28, 0:01:31]: Chair Custom, I just need a correct spelling. [0:01:31, 0:01:33]: For Brandon. [0:01:33, 0:01:34]: Boeing. [0:01:36, 0:01:40]: All right. Uh uh Mr. Bowen, do you want to go ahead and um give that? Make sure. [0:01:41, 0:01:46]: Sure. And if and if my name is popping up on the your screen. Oh sorry, there you go. [0:01:47, 0:01:48]: The Japan. [0:01:49, 0:01:50]: All right, very good. [0:01:50, 0:01:51]: Thank you. [0:01:52, 0:01:55]: All right. Any discussion on the uh motion to amend the agenda? [0:01:58, 0:02:02]: All right, those in favor, uh please raise your hand to approve. [0:02:03, 0:02:10]: All right, that's unanimous. Thank you. And uh also on the attendance uh let the record show that we also have uh [0:02:11, 0:02:15]: Kira Harris Braggs and Mr. Brandon Bowen and uh Vanessa. [0:02:16, 0:02:21]: holiday our city clerk uh present and i think that's it as far as the participants at the moment [0:02:22, 0:02:23]: Yes. [0:02:23, 0:02:30]: All right, uh so with that in mind, we'll go ahead and finish up the call to order items, which is to um [0:02:31, 0:02:41]: So we approved the agendas with the amended we well no that was the to approve the amendment to the agenda. [0:02:42, 0:02:54]: Let me go ahead and make a motion to approve the actual agenda with the amendment. I I think that was combined, but just for clarity's sake, let's go ahead and um um make a motion to approve today's agenda as amended. [0:02:55, 0:02:55]: A second. [0:02:56, 0:02:56]: Thank you. [0:02:59, 0:03:00]: Uh any further discussion? [0:03:03, 0:03:05]: All right, those in favor, please raise your hand. [0:03:07, 0:03:13]: All right, that's unanimous. And sorry, I could have done that in one uh motion, but I you know I got a little mixed up there. So thank you. [0:03:13, 0:03:17]: Um and Miss and Councilman Alexander, I see you've joined. [0:03:19, 0:03:20]: Thank you. [0:03:22, 0:03:23]: How are you doing today? [0:03:24, 0:03:25]: And I'm not hearing your audio. [0:03:26, 0:03:28]: Yeah, good today. How's everyone? [0:03:28, 0:03:31]: They're doing well. Good far. Good far. [0:03:32, 0:03:47]: Mr. Bowen is an attorney who is uh joined our meeting and we've just amended the agenda to include a new order uh or a new item for new business to approve Mr. Bowen as our um uh attorney uh general counsel. [0:03:49, 0:04:06]: Um so we'll move on with the next item, which is to approve the uh October 18th meeting minutes. And um and Vanessa shared that with us uh a couple of days ago via email. So I'll uh go ahead and um ask for a motion to approve the October meeting minutes. [0:04:06, 0:04:07]: Uh sub boot. [0:04:08, 0:04:09]: Thank you, Bob. [0:04:09, 0:04:10]: Sir second. [0:04:15, 0:04:15]: Second. [0:04:16, 0:04:17]: Thank you, Barber. [0:04:18, 0:04:20]: Any discussion on the minutes? [0:04:23, 0:04:28]: Okay, I'm seeing none. So those in favor of approving the October eighteenth meeting minutes, please raise your hand. [0:04:30, 0:04:35]: All right. And that looks to be unanimous. Thank you. [0:04:36, 0:04:44]: All right, that's the call to order business, the opening item. So we'll move, we'll jump over to the uh new business, which is to um [0:04:45, 0:04:58]: really have a QA with Mr. Bowen and um and and and then ask for a motion to uh have him represent the DDA as general counsel. So we'll open up the floor for any questions that anyone might have for Mr. Bowen. [0:04:59, 0:04:59]: Right. [0:05:01, 0:05:09]: Yeah, Mr. Mo could could could you just kind of give us like a a a brief kind of a resume of your background, uh particularly working with DDAs and uh [0:05:11, 0:05:31]: Sure. So um just around I am a lifelong Georgia resident. I am a double dog from the University of Georgia, graduated from law school in 2001. Um I grew up in Gwinnett County, but I I came to Cartersville to work at a judicial clerkship. The superior courts up here. [0:05:32, 0:05:39]: And I like Cartersville. I've never heard of it before, and uh, but I liked it, and so I've been here for a little over 20 years now. [0:05:39, 0:05:40]: Um [0:05:41, 0:06:01]: So my practice is the entire time really has been local government law. I when I came out of my clerkship, um, I I went to work with one of my judges' former partners, Frank Jenkins. He's kind of the grand poo-baugh of zoning law in Georgia. He was the DeCab County Z uh zoning attorney. [0:06:01, 0:06:14]: attorney in the 70s and 80s when so much of our zoning law was established. And that's where all the crazy stuff was going on or interesting stuff, novel stuff. And so he was involved in one of those cases. [0:06:14, 0:06:18]: So when my clerkship ended, I got a job with him and [0:06:18, 0:06:26]: I had basically just worked on zoning cases and and development cases, land use cases, my whole practice. Um [0:06:27, 0:06:47]: I am a city attorney for another a number of uh uh cities in Northwest Georgia. I do a tremendous amount of work for the local county. Um, and I really I do zoning and land use work for uh jurisdictions all over the state when it's just uh specialty, you know, zoning land use. [0:06:47, 0:06:50]: Sign ordinances, you have it, that kind of stuff. [0:06:50, 0:07:06]: So that's what I do. Um, I have done a fair amount of work with DDAs, generally in the context of being the city attorney or uh attorney for the city and being asked to just assist the DDA. Um, you know, I would not say that. [0:07:06, 0:07:21]: Just being a DDA attorney has ever been the primary focus of my my uh practice. But you know, there have been things here and there, uh really for a number of years. I have done bond deals and things of that nature, so I'm familiar with how that works. [0:07:21, 0:07:24]: Um, so yeah, so that's me. Um [0:07:25, 0:07:30]: Um I uh before we get started to tonight, I read [0:07:30, 0:07:31]: Uh the um [0:07:32, 0:07:36]: the market study you have on your website, um, as well as the comprehensive plan. [0:07:37, 0:07:50]: I'll say I perused the comprehensive plan. It's a pretty long document, but I read the market study. Um and uh, you know, I'm familiar with Stockbridge. I've been to Stockbridge before, you know, growing up in the metro area. Um [0:07:50, 0:07:53]: I looked at your DDA map. [0:07:53, 0:07:55]: I I guess the question I have. [0:07:56, 0:08:04]: For you all is, you know, what do you want to do with your DDA? I mean, I saw that you're doing facade grants already. Um [0:08:04, 0:08:09]: I saw in the market study need for more um [0:08:09, 0:08:18]: uh retail and really retail that's not geared just to highway traffic, but retail is geared towards the folks that live there. [0:08:19, 0:08:21]: What do y'all plan to do about that? [0:08:24, 0:08:44]: Well if I may I'll go ahead and address that one. I know you and I spoke, but um I'm I'm hoping the DDA can serve as an engine for positive growth in the downtown district. Um I for one I'm a business owner and resident of the city of Stockbridge and a business owner in the district. And uh, you know, so my livelihood kind of depends on it. That's why I would [0:08:44, 0:08:54]: a personal interest, but I'm uh uh happy to um hear from other folks as to what your ideas are for the DDA and and what the next steps might be. [0:08:55, 0:09:00]: Well and the only question I have is what was the process behind [0:09:01, 0:09:05]: bringing Mr. Bowen on to the team. Were there more than one [0:09:05, 0:09:08]: Attorney solicited, was it posted? What was [0:09:09, 0:09:11]: Actually the process and what was required. [0:09:12, 0:09:14]: Uh he might be able to help us on [0:09:14, 0:09:18]: what's actually is required for posting this position. [0:09:20, 0:09:40]: Um I'm not aware that there's any kind of procurement rules as far as like a competitive bid, um, but as far as Mr. Bowen, um and his name was recommended to us. Um, if I remember correctly, it was actually through TSW or maybe even Bleakley um who referred me to. [0:09:40, 0:09:41]: I'm sorry about that. Um [0:09:42, 0:10:02]: Who offered his name maybe through a mutual contact. Uh when we were looking for an attorney a couple of years ago, it was when we uh selected um uh Mr. McCrae. And we had a few uh leading candidates, and Mr. Bowen was among them. Uh we ended up selecting Mr. McRae, but as we mentioned at our last meeting, he has decided. [0:10:02, 0:10:14]: decided to uh step back as general counsel. So I just tapped into the previous work that was done by the DDA and made contact with them. So that's that's the process. [0:10:14, 0:10:17]: I just wanna make sure what we're doing is um [0:10:17, 0:10:21]: According to whatever our bylaws and processes is and [0:10:21, 0:10:23]: And selecting someone'cause you know. [0:10:23, 0:10:26]: Generally you have to consult more than one person. [0:10:27, 0:10:27]: So [0:10:28, 0:10:29]: I'm not sure. [0:10:29, 0:10:33]: If the group decided on that, Mr. Custin, or you decided on that'cause [0:10:34, 0:10:39]: I'm not sure whether we uh actually met to actually discuss it. We just kind of brought him forward. [0:10:40, 0:11:00]: Well, it was brought up in the meeting last uh and when when we when I made the announcement that Mr. McCray actually was last two meetings, and I asked for every all the board members' um support and you know offering any recommendations for attorneys that they may knew and and and having received [0:10:59, 0:11:04]: None. I tapped into the uh previous work that was done by the D D A. [0:11:05, 0:11:18]: Okay, I don't know. Uh Mr. Bowen, do you have any insight on what the process is or what w uh for as far as these DDAs are concerned or these positions? I don't I don't really know the answer to that. [0:11:18, 0:11:23]: Yeah, I don't think there's any state law that really controls that. I mean the amount of [0:11:24, 0:11:32]: This type of work, the amount of money would be below the state um public contracting amounts. So [0:11:32, 0:11:40]: It really is is just up to the board to satisfy the policy the procedures that it that it chooses, so long as it's done publicly. [0:11:43, 0:11:45]: Okay, Mr. Kirst. [0:11:45, 0:11:47]: You're attesting that this is [0:11:47, 0:11:50]: according to what our bylaws are,'cause I'm not [0:11:50, 0:11:53]: familiar with that. So are you attesting to that? [0:11:54, 0:12:05]: I'll I'll double check it. Um, you know, it's a good question. I certainly always want to remain that we're uh working above board, which is part of the reason we want to make sure we have an attorney um uh general counsel. [0:12:05, 0:12:19]: But um I'm not aware of any I don't recall anything in our bylaws. And and Bob, you worked on the on the bylaws as well. We recently revised them last year, so I don't recall anything being in there about it. No, I'm not aware. I I don't either. Uh yeah, I don't recall any. [0:12:20, 0:12:21]: specific procedures. [0:12:25, 0:12:45]: Um I do have a question for um Mr. Bowen. Uh so in your proposal you provided um a kind of a tiered structure on on the uh rates uh based on whether the representation would be done by uh one of the partner attorneys or associates or paralegal. So and and that makes sense. Um [0:12:45, 0:13:05]: But uh what would be, I guess the the the question I would have would, what would be the method of engagement and how would who how would that decision be made as far as how it gets parsed to one of those uh tiered resources? Sure. Yeah. So my firm is set up, we we've got three partners and the [0:13:05, 0:13:08]: Then we have three associates. [0:13:08, 0:13:11]: Generally for work like this, I do all the work myself. [0:13:12, 0:13:27]: Um the exceptions to that would be if I had a conflict, uh generally I choose whichever meeting is going to have the hottest fire and I'll go to it and I'll send an associate to the other. Um [0:13:28, 0:13:48]: And uh, you know, if we were to get into a big project, I may use an associate or my paralegal to assist. You know, for instance, let's say you decide to do a building renovation and we've got to do a bond deal to raise the capital to do that. Well, there's a lot of paperwork involved with that, you know, going down to the courthouse and getting a judge. [0:13:48, 0:13:55]: disorder and things of that nature. So I would normally use, you know, an associate or a paralegal to try to keep those costs down. But [0:13:56, 0:13:58]: The general day to day, you know, a question comes up. [0:13:59, 0:14:03]: What do we do about this? That kind of thing. I would expect to handle all of that. [0:14:09, 0:14:10]: All right, thank you. [0:14:12, 0:14:14]: Other questions? [0:14:21, 0:14:21]: Mm. [0:14:22, 0:14:23]: All right. [0:14:24, 0:14:31]: I'm seeing hearing none. So and I I'm checking the uh bylaws now and I I don't see anything in there that imposes uh [0:14:32, 0:14:37]: Uh a limit or control on the uh purchases or authority for. [0:14:37, 0:14:38]: Engaging. [0:14:39, 0:14:40]: Um [0:14:40, 0:14:43]: for engaging any kind of professional services, including legal. [0:14:46, 0:14:48]: Any other concerns, councilman? [0:14:51, 0:15:00]: I don't I just uh I'll let you guys vote and I'll just abstain from the vote not uh understanding, not seeing the rules myself, so I'll just let you guys vote. [0:15:01, 0:15:17]: Very good. All right. Any other uh so with no other further questions, um I'll go ahead and entertain or I'll go ahead and make a motion to um request the board's approval to approve Brandon Bowen and his firm to represent the DDA as general counsel. [0:15:18, 0:15:19]: Okay. [0:15:19, 0:15:20]: Thank you, Bob. [0:15:22, 0:15:24]: Any further discussion? [0:15:26, 0:15:28]: All right, those in favor, please raise your hand. [0:15:31, 0:15:41]: All right, we have four yeses and councilman Alexander has abstained. Um thank you everyone. I appreciate your support on that. Mr. Bowen, do you have anything else you want to share with the group? [0:15:42, 0:15:47]: No, I appreciate the opportunity. Um, I look forward to it. I uh, you know. [0:15:47, 0:16:01]: What would make this um interesting to me is if, you know, there were some dynamic ideas about how to uh use the powers in the uh DDA law to improve Stockbridge and be able to help with that. So I hope that that is the case. [0:16:02, 0:16:22]: Very good. Well you're certainly welcome to um and and and I and I will mention that uh when Mr. Bowen and I spoke, since he is in Cartersville, we you know I did establish that a majority of the time our meetings are expected to be virtual, at least for now. That could change uh at the board's at the board's discretion. Um [0:16:22, 0:16:26]: And that we would not typically ask the just out of a [0:16:26, 0:16:28]: Managing the [0:16:28, 0:16:48]: the cost for legal support, we would not typically ask the attorney to attend our regular meetings unless there is an issue that is on the agenda that would require uh legal attention. Uh, and that more typically, if anything does come up in the meeting that needs a legal opinion, then we would uh communicate. [0:16:48, 0:17:01]: Communicate via email following the meeting. Okay. And so I wanted to share that with the rest of the board and make sure that there were no concerns about that method of engagement with our attorney. [0:17:05, 0:17:15]: All right, so we're not here and I'm yes, Ciara. Go ahead. Um I I had my hand raised over there. I'm sorry. I don't know if you saw it, but I just wanted to um [0:17:15, 0:17:23]: Um, respond to attorney Bowen's question about what our vision was for the downtown district. [0:17:23, 0:17:38]: Um, I would like to uh make him aware of the RSVP plan that was created for the downtown district here. Um, we worked with the Carl Vinson Institute and you from UGA to create a downtown um [0:17:38, 0:17:39]: Strategic plan. [0:17:40, 0:17:46]: And um that document is available um online and I can also send that to you, but it does have [0:17:47, 0:17:50]: Um quite a few suggestions about downtown development. [0:17:50, 0:17:53]: And um creating a mixed use. [0:17:53, 0:17:54]: Um [0:17:54, 0:17:55]: District. [0:17:55, 0:17:59]: That would include um retail restaurant. [0:17:59, 0:18:00]: And um [0:18:01, 0:18:06]: dwelling places. So I will make sure that I forward you that information so that you can see [0:18:07, 0:18:10]: Um some of the things some of the planning that has already [0:18:10, 0:18:14]: um been put in place and that will give you an idea of [0:18:14, 0:18:15]: Um a direction that [0:18:16, 0:18:24]: we as especially with uh um Main Street in partnership with the downtown development authority would like to move in the coming years. [0:18:24, 0:18:27]: Yeah, well thank you, Kira. And um [0:18:27, 0:18:42]: I saw that and I saw some flyovers on the website as well. Yes. Um and are are you working with TSW and the city attorney to to get the zoning ordinance, you know, uh lined up to allow that district? [0:18:43, 0:18:50]: Um we have some of the zoning that's already in place, um, but there is some work to do with regard to zoning once. [0:18:50, 0:18:55]: Um there's been a decision made with regard to which um developments we're gonna um work with. [0:18:55, 0:18:56]: Work on first. [0:18:58, 0:19:02]: So that's something that we definitely would um love to have your expertise on. [0:19:03, 0:19:03]: Okay, great. [0:19:08, 0:19:16]: All right. And as I mentioned, you're welcome to hang out for the rest of the meeting or drop off at sh as you wish. Certainly appreciate you joining us today. [0:19:16, 0:19:23]: Yeah, if if you don't mind, I'm gonna drop off. I've got something I've got to get to, but I appreciate the opportunity and I look forward to working with you all. [0:19:24, 0:19:25]: Likewise. [0:19:26, 0:19:26]: All right. [0:19:28, 0:19:29]: Thank you. Good night. [0:19:30, 0:19:32]: All right. Thank you. [0:19:32, 0:19:52]: Um all right, we'll move on to um what was item two on the agenda, officers and city staff reports. Um as far as general comments, uh chairman's comments, uh uh I just want to mention uh ahead of time I met with um um Mr. Gardiner earlier this uh week to um hear his [0:19:52, 0:20:12]: Thoughts on the um uh the um uh tax allocation district. And I know that was up, I believe uh at least uh the first pass of that was up at the city council meeting last night. So Mr. Councilman Alexander, when it when it comes to your turn to give us the uh council updates, uh [0:20:12, 0:20:28]: I'd like to hear any uh any development uh regarding the TAD when when you report out. Um outside of that, I don't have any other items. Um and so we can move on to the treasurer update. So Barber, what what do you have for the group? [0:20:30, 0:20:32]: And join it. [0:20:37, 0:20:38]: Excellent. [0:20:40, 0:20:42]: And uh Barber, you're so mute. [0:20:46, 0:21:06]: Okay. Yeah. I need to change this to October, but this is as of October. Um, for the month of October, the only expense that we had that was paid out was our monthly Zoom subscription, which was$40. Uh, there was no income. So year to date, we're left with the net income of$33,814 for the year. [0:21:06, 0:21:07]: Yeah. [0:21:07, 0:21:09]: As of October thirty first. [0:21:10, 0:21:12]: Far as our balance sheet is concerned. [0:21:13, 0:21:13]: Um [0:21:13, 0:21:15]: Right now that the facade grant. [0:21:16, 0:21:34]: We have$114,669.65 and our operating account,$53,150.58 for total assets of$167,820 and 23 cents. [0:21:36, 0:21:56]: Um, as I see on the PL, the cash that went out for the month was$40, which was for our Zoom subscription. But we do have a couple of expenses that's coming up that I need Zoom each month. And then uh GDA membership, we did mail that check. Um, it's already been paid, but as [0:21:55, 0:21:58]: as of October 31st, they hadn't cashed it yet. [0:21:58, 0:22:05]: I did see that it came through uh sometime this month, month of November, but as of October, um [0:22:05, 0:22:09]: though those expenses, though the check had been written, had not cashed the bank yet. [0:22:10, 0:22:25]: Uh, we owe our balance to, well, our invoice to R and R design for the logo. I did uh saw those emails, uh Roger. Um, so I did reach out to Scarlet to see if I could if there's a way that I can expedite that payment, pay it online or something like that. [0:22:26, 0:22:40]: But if not, I'll mail a check and by the time we meet next month, that will be taken care of. And as we discussed during last meeting, um a reimbursement for me, I'd paid my GDA membership as an individual before we paid it as a group. [0:22:41, 0:22:51]: Um, so technically we're overpaid, if you will. Um, and I guess I'll get with Roger, because I don't want to write myself a check. That's bad business. [0:22:51, 0:22:57]: So total up, you know, total upcoming expenses, uh$3,640. [0:22:58, 0:23:03]: If I'm missing something, um, you know, let me know and uh be sure to account for that as well. [0:23:04, 0:23:06]: But if I'm not [0:23:06, 0:23:10]: I will open the floor to any questions if anyone has anything. [0:23:10, 0:23:11]: Um [0:23:12, 0:23:14]: Any questions about the PL? [0:23:15, 0:23:18]: Our cash balance, the balance sheet. [0:23:18, 0:23:19]: Anything? [0:23:21, 0:23:23]: If not, um [0:23:24, 0:23:25]: That concludes my [0:23:26, 0:23:27]: Report. [0:23:29, 0:23:36]: All right, thank you, Barber. Appreciate that. Um, we'll turn it over to um Bob. Do you have any updates? [0:23:37, 0:23:38]: Uh no, not at this time. [0:23:38, 0:23:50]: All right, then that brings us to the Main Street Advisory Board updates and I'll I'll defer to either Barber first and then Kira for those updates. [0:23:50, 0:23:51]: Hira. [0:23:51, 0:23:53]: All right, very good. [0:23:55, 0:23:57]: And Kira, you're on mute still. [0:23:58, 0:24:01]: Sorry about that. Good evening, everyone. [0:24:01, 0:24:08]: Good to see everyone this evening. Um, I just have a few updates with regard to the Main Street program. [0:24:08, 0:24:14]: Um we are in the midst of our small business blitz. This is our [0:24:14, 0:24:27]: um push um out to the community to support small businesses. Stockbridge located small businesses through the month of December. I mean month of November, as you all know. [0:24:27, 0:24:35]: Um the nation celebrates small business Saturday and that is a um very supported um [0:24:35, 0:24:41]: Effort through Main Street, the National Main Street program and statewide Main Street programs. [0:24:42, 0:24:47]: So as um Stockbridge has been um celebrating this particular um [0:24:48, 0:24:50]: shopping date for over five years. [0:24:50, 0:24:54]: As we um have moved into the sixth year of participation. [0:24:54, 0:24:56]: We decided um [0:24:56, 0:25:00]: To extend our support of small businesses. [0:25:00, 0:25:03]: For the entire month of November and this was based on [0:25:03, 0:25:06]: Feedback that we receive from participating merchants. [0:25:06, 0:25:11]: And from um participants who actually um shop and dine. [0:25:11, 0:25:14]: А он на Small Business Saturday Holiday. [0:25:15, 0:25:20]: Um we have over thirty businesses participating this year. [0:25:20, 0:25:25]: And we have new um this year, our passport has gone digital. [0:25:25, 0:25:28]: So we are offering um [0:25:28, 0:25:34]: a more um I guess efficient way to shop, dine and do business during this month. [0:25:34, 0:25:40]: We have a QR code that you are able to scan and download the app. [0:25:41, 0:25:45]: And then when you download the app, it provides you with a map. [0:25:46, 0:25:46]: Mm. [0:25:46, 0:25:49]: Um, pinpoints all of the businesses that are participating. [0:25:50, 0:25:54]: And also gives you a listing of those businesses so that if you [0:25:54, 0:26:00]: Um, select a business, you go directly to their website and it also lists any specials or [0:26:00, 0:26:05]: Um any promotions that that particular business is hosting during the month of November. [0:26:05, 0:26:12]: In addition, you are able to immediately upload any receipts that you um have. [0:26:12, 0:26:16]: from shopping at those businesses and every four businesses that you [0:26:16, 0:26:20]: Um shop at provides you with the opportunity. [0:26:20, 0:26:24]: to be entered into a drawing for a prize pack um filled with [0:26:24, 0:26:25]: Um [0:26:25, 0:26:28]: Merchandise, gift certificates. [0:26:28, 0:26:36]: and um other items from our participating merchants and these um baskets are valued at over two hundred dollars so [0:26:36, 0:26:39]: We are really um pushing this effort. [0:26:39, 0:26:40]: And encouraging [0:26:40, 0:26:42]: Um our community. [0:26:42, 0:26:47]: Our visitors and everyone in between to participate and to support. [0:26:47, 0:26:49]: This particular effort. [0:26:49, 0:26:52]: Um I will um be happy to [0:26:52, 0:26:55]: Um email everyone the um [0:26:56, 0:27:03]: The code, the QR code, so that you all can scan it and um put the app on your phones. It's very easy to use. [0:27:03, 0:27:05]: And we're hoping that [0:27:05, 0:27:08]: This will take the place of our um printed passport. [0:27:08, 0:27:13]: As you all know, um printing costs can be very expensive and [0:27:13, 0:27:20]: Um, we're trying to um gradually phase that portion out. We still do have some physical passports. Um [0:27:20, 0:27:25]: available, but we're trying to phase that out and eventually only rely on the digital. [0:27:25, 0:27:28]: um passport for participation in this promotion. [0:27:29, 0:27:42]: So we're really excited about it and I hope, oh yes, you have it. Barber has it downloaded. Thank you, Barber. So we're hoping that you all will be as excited and as supportive of our um small businesses during the month of November. [0:27:43, 0:27:44]: Um [0:27:44, 0:27:56]: As far as the um downtown updates are concerned, um we do have um a position available on the main street advisory board. We have a um [0:27:56, 0:28:05]: City of Stockbridge um resident position available. So if you all know of a City of Stockbridge resident who would like to [0:28:05, 0:28:06]: Um [0:28:07, 0:28:09]: Um submit an application. [0:28:09, 0:28:16]: They can do so. We have received quite a few already. So we're going to have to kind of go through those applications and [0:28:16, 0:28:17]: Um [0:28:17, 0:28:19]: put forth a candidate to [0:28:20, 0:28:21]: They um [0:28:21, 0:28:24]: board for their approval and appointment. [0:28:24, 0:28:27]: Um the Ted Strickland building. [0:28:27, 0:28:31]: It has been completed as far as construction and remodel are concerned. [0:28:32, 0:28:36]: Um we do have a bit of uh or wait before we can actually [0:28:37, 0:28:37]: Um [0:28:38, 0:28:46]: Um, utilize the building and open it for the public because we have a backlog on our um furniture. [0:28:46, 0:28:48]: We've received for our chairs will be. [0:28:48, 0:28:52]: Um delivered tomorrow the seating for the um [0:28:52, 0:29:01]: offices and our workroom will be delivered tomorrow. However, we do not have the um desk. So we're gonna get some temporary furniture. [0:29:02, 0:29:06]: Um, for us to use so that we can go on and move into the building. [0:29:06, 0:29:08]: Um at the beginning of December. [0:29:08, 0:29:17]: And then um January is when everything is due. So we'll get all of our furniture installed. And then we're looking forward to doing. [0:29:17, 0:29:20]: Some sort of um open house, uh welcome. [0:29:21, 0:29:23]: to the community so that everyone can come in and [0:29:24, 0:29:28]: Um, see what has been done. We're really excited about our new home. [0:29:29, 0:29:30]: Um the downtown um [0:29:31, 0:29:33]: Development authorities new home. [0:29:33, 0:29:39]: Um you all will have a an office there as well. So we're looking forward to being able to [0:29:39, 0:29:44]: open that building and uh bring everyone to utilize that as well. [0:29:44, 0:29:46]: Um as far as the [0:29:47, 0:29:50]: Um alleway project is concerned. [0:29:50, 0:29:54]: We're still working with the attorney to get the letters out for those. [0:29:54, 0:29:58]: Um properties that will be impacted and we will need [0:29:58, 0:30:00]: access to those particular properties. [0:30:01, 0:30:07]: And once those letters are completed and delivered, I'll have um some more information to report to you all with regard to [0:30:08, 0:30:09]: that particular matter. [0:30:10, 0:30:13]: And I think that's all that I have um with regard to [0:30:14, 0:30:16]: Main street um the [0:30:16, 0:30:23]: Um it's more of a city um item, but the city will be hosting a um holiday festival and [0:30:23, 0:30:30]: As tradition has stood, since Main Street has been a part of the city, we will be hosting our annual Cocoa Booth. [0:30:31, 0:30:33]: Which has been very popular at all of the [0:30:34, 0:30:34]: Um [0:30:35, 0:30:39]: Holiday festivals that we've hosted since Main Street has been a part of it. [0:30:40, 0:30:42]: So uh we're looking forward to that as well. [0:30:45, 0:30:46]: And that concludes my report. [0:30:46, 0:30:48]: What is the date of that? Um [0:30:48, 0:30:49]: Holiday event. [0:30:50, 0:30:51]: December the first. [0:30:55, 0:30:56]: Surecoaster. [0:30:57, 0:31:02]: Yes, go ahead. [0:31:02, 0:31:04]: With the annexation [0:31:04, 0:31:05]: Oh [0:31:05, 0:31:07]: New residents. [0:31:07, 0:31:11]: and businesses um november eight [0:31:11, 0:31:16]: There will be new citizens who can apply for this board. [0:31:16, 0:31:20]: And also if you were looking into any part of the Main Street board. [0:31:21, 0:31:28]: That would be appointed uh at the January 9th meeting if any of those were to come forward. Just wonder. [0:31:29, 0:31:31]: So it has expanded. [0:31:31, 0:31:45]: Thank you. Yeah. And the criteria would be I guess the criteria for a business within the district, of course, hasn't changed, but of course that expands the number of residents, the citywide residents that um would qualify. [0:31:46, 0:31:54]: That's correct. Great. Are there any while we're on that topic, do we have any um applicants for the uh DDA position? [0:31:54, 0:31:55]: I do not, but we are [0:31:56, 0:32:02]: When we send out our welcome packet for the new residents, that will be included in the packet. [0:32:02, 0:32:04]: Oh good. Thank you. Appreciate that. [0:32:05, 0:32:06]: I'm gonna get a packet. [0:32:06, 0:32:07]: Yeah. [0:32:09, 0:32:09]: [1930.3, 1935.3]: Nice. Um any um any questions or comments for the Main Street updates? [0:32:16, 0:32:20]: Gary, ca you you you're gonna eat email us the QR code then'cause uh [0:32:21, 0:32:31]: Yes, I will do that. As soon as our meeting is over, I'll email that out to you all. Thank you. Uh my wife is the shopper and she's the the smartphone uh h holder, uh so. [0:32:31, 0:32:32]: Yay! [0:32:34, 0:32:34]: Awesome. [0:32:35, 0:32:55]: Well, I I'd just like to add a comment uh that uh thank you to the Main Street and all the all the team that worked on the digitizing the um the uh the you know the uh the the the the small business blitz for uh November. Um it's it's it's always been uh a very um uh [0:32:55, 0:33:07]: busy day for or busy month even for uh for our business and I appreciate the work that's been done and all the pre-planning that's been done for this year's uh events. So th thank you, thank you for that work. [0:33:08, 0:33:28]: And thank you for your participation. Yes. All right. And um, all right, with that, um I don't think I have anything else. Any anyone else for Main Street? All right, that moves us to the facade grant. And um I don't have any further updates, Bob. I don't I know that there haven't been any application. [0:33:28, 0:33:39]: But I do know, and we put this under the city staff updates, Kira, that there's a request related to 114 MLK. So we can go right into that if you like. [0:33:40, 0:33:48]: Okay, um is it possible for me to share um the screen? Sure. Let me s let me know if you cannot. [0:33:48, 0:33:49]: Okay. [0:33:50, 0:33:51]: Sure. [0:33:54, 0:33:57]: Uh host compared to hosting yeah, you should be able to do it. [0:33:58, 0:33:58]: Okay. [0:34:01, 0:34:02]: Um [0:34:03, 0:34:06]: Okay, that's not what I wanna share, I don't think. Let's see. [0:34:07, 0:34:08]: Stop that. [0:34:13, 0:34:14]: Yeah. [0:34:17, 0:34:18]: Okay. [0:34:18, 0:34:19]: Think I've got it. [0:34:20, 0:34:22]: No, it's still sharing the wrong thing. [0:34:24, 0:34:26]: Let me try it one more time. [0:34:36, 0:34:37]: Uh [0:34:39, 0:34:52]: Don't know why I keep sharing that instead of the screen that I keep selecting. Do you see the number two on there, on there anywhere? Screen two. The number two. Yeah, I see it. On that one. [0:34:53, 0:34:54]: All right. [0:34:55, 0:34:56]: But that's my [0:34:58, 0:35:00]: Oh, you're saying put it over on screen too? [0:35:01, 0:35:04]: All right, let me try that. Sorry about this, y'all. [0:35:20, 0:35:22]: All right, now let me try screen too. [0:35:28, 0:35:29]: That worked, I think. [0:35:31, 0:35:34]: Are you all seeing a PowerPoint presentation? [0:35:35, 0:35:40]: Yes, diversified construction of Georgia and budget, yeah. Okay, fabulous. Okay. [0:35:41, 0:35:42]: So um [0:35:42, 0:35:43]: B [0:35:44, 0:35:53]: Property that's located at 114 Martin Luther King's Senior Heritage Trail, as you all know, is owned by the city. And the city has um [0:35:54, 0:35:55]: Decided to [0:35:56, 0:35:56]: Um [0:35:58, 0:36:07]: Revitalize some particular areas that are problematic within that building so that it will be [0:36:07, 0:36:12]: So that we will be better able to market that building to potential business owners. [0:36:13, 0:36:14]: Um the [0:36:16, 0:36:17]: Building needs a new roof. [0:36:18, 0:36:22]: It also needs um some remodeling of. [0:36:22, 0:36:23]: The fasad. [0:36:24, 0:36:29]: And um there are some interior things that need to be done just to get it. [0:36:29, 0:36:32]: into um a position where [0:36:32, 0:36:39]: um a business owner would be attracted to the particular space and be able to um [0:36:40, 0:36:48]: visualize their business there and not have quite as much work to do to rehab the particular space. [0:36:48, 0:36:58]: Um, as you all might recall from um past reports that I have given, um, we are interested in redoing the facade. [0:36:58, 0:37:02]: Where the building would have a recessed entrance. [0:37:02, 0:37:02]: Way. [0:37:03, 0:37:05]: Um, this would allow for more. [0:37:06, 0:37:06]: Um [0:37:06, 0:37:08]: Display area if [0:37:08, 0:37:12]: There were a retail space to come into that um particular space. [0:37:13, 0:37:17]: Um and and then also it would allow for um outdoor dining. [0:37:18, 0:37:24]: Um, if that is also an option that a restaurant might like to take advantage of in addition to dining. [0:37:24, 0:37:27]: Um in the front portion of the building. [0:37:28, 0:37:36]: Uh we are looking at um a budget that was provided to us by diversified construction of Georgia. [0:37:36, 0:37:38]: Um, they went through a [0:37:39, 0:37:39]: Um [0:37:40, 0:37:42]: Call for bids process. [0:37:42, 0:37:44]: That was done um [0:37:44, 0:37:47]: Ласт є гарду, um [0:37:47, 0:37:50]: Um white boxing that particular building. [0:37:50, 0:37:57]: though we've scaled back what um the city has scaled back what they are interested in doing with this particular building. [0:37:57, 0:38:00]: Diversified is the um company that [0:38:00, 0:38:02]: Um they have decided to go with. [0:38:03, 0:38:09]: And they have provided us with a budget um that totals two hundred twenty-eight thousand dollars. [0:38:09, 0:38:11]: Two hundred and thirty two. [0:38:11, 0:38:16]: two hundred twenty eight thousand two hundred and thirty two dollars and seventy four cents. [0:38:16, 0:38:19]: Of that the facade grant. [0:38:19, 0:38:22]: I mean facade um cost would be [0:38:22, 0:38:26]: A hundred and nine thousand dollars roughly and [0:38:26, 0:38:31]: Um there would also be a separate cost for um the [0:38:31, 0:38:32]: We're uh [0:38:33, 0:38:34]: Repair of the [0:38:34, 0:38:36]: Rear facade. [0:38:36, 0:38:37]: What? [0:38:37, 0:38:43]: I have been charged with is asking the DDA if they would be willing to [0:38:43, 0:38:48]: Um provide facade grant money toward this particular. [0:38:48, 0:38:53]: um project so that we could defray some of those costs um through that partnership. [0:38:54, 0:38:55]: And [0:38:55, 0:38:56]: Also consider [0:38:57, 0:39:04]: um a larger amount than what is um usually granted to um businesses because we want to [0:39:04, 0:39:06]: See if this building [0:39:06, 0:39:13]: Um can which is pretty pivotal in our downtown. Um, if we can start marketing this business. [0:39:13, 0:39:20]: space and get a viable business in this particular location. The city wants to move forward on this. [0:39:20, 0:39:23]: And just asking for UAS partnership. [0:39:24, 0:39:24]: And [0:39:25, 0:39:26]: Um making this happen. [0:39:27, 0:39:29]: So um that's [0:39:29, 0:39:36]: What I'd like to present to you all. There are the costs there. It's a breakdown of what is going to be done. [0:39:36, 0:39:38]: Again, that is just going to be the roof. [0:39:39, 0:39:47]: And the facade in the front and the facade in the back, they're going it a lot of repair needs to be done. Um there has been [0:39:47, 0:39:51]: water incursion into the building because the roof is in pretty bad shape. [0:39:52, 0:39:53]: Um [0:39:53, 0:39:56]: And as we showed you before, we want to make the [0:39:56, 0:40:01]: facade um front facade front entryway a little bit more appealing [0:40:01, 0:40:02]: So that um [0:40:03, 0:40:06]: It'll be even more marketable to a potential business. [0:40:08, 0:40:11]: So um that's pretty much all. Um [0:40:12, 0:40:15]: I wanted to bring to you all for consideration. [0:40:16, 0:40:25]: And it is um up to you all what you all would like to um do if you would like to um go into partnership with the city on this particular project. [0:40:26, 0:40:27]: And at what level? [0:40:34, 0:40:38]: All right, any questions for Kira or any discussion? [0:40:40, 0:40:43]: Uh I I I think it's a great idea. Um [0:40:44, 0:40:50]: If if we can if we can provide more than the five thousand dollar um facade grant [0:40:50, 0:40:55]: Uh I'd be you know, legal if we could do that. I'd be in favor of that too, and I'm just [0:40:55, 0:41:07]: I mean, just throwing out a I'm just throwing out a figure there. I mean if we could if we could chip in, say uh forty or fifty thousand'cause I think we've got uh in our facade grant we we've got what about a hundred and fourteen [0:41:09, 0:41:14]: Something like that. Hundred and fourteen thousand in our facade. Um [0:41:15, 0:41:18]: I mean it th that that would be a major commitment, but I mean, um [0:41:20, 0:41:23]: My thinking is, you know, we got if we have the money, let's use it. [0:41:25, 0:41:30]: Don't don't wanna use all of it on on one project, obviously, but uh but you know, if we could if we could chip in more than [0:41:31, 0:41:31]: Oh. [0:41:32, 0:41:33]: I'd be in favor of it. [0:41:37, 0:41:39]: Yeah. [0:41:39, 0:41:42]: Yes, Barber. Is the city um [0:41:43, 0:41:46]: Is the city funding the other portion or funding the costs? [0:41:47, 0:41:49]: Or yes. Okay. Good. Yes. [0:41:51, 0:41:51]: Yeah. [0:41:54, 0:41:59]: Okay, so the city is definitely open for us partnering fifty fifty or [0:41:59, 0:42:01]: Or even o of a lesser [0:42:01, 0:42:02]: Um [0:42:03, 0:42:04]: Participation, right? [0:42:05, 0:42:06]: Well, um [0:42:07, 0:42:14]: That would, you know, totally be up to you all. Um, you have a representative from city council on your board. He might be able to speak. Um [0:42:15, 0:42:15]: Um [0:42:16, 0:42:19]: to you know your questions with regard to the city's involvement. [0:42:20, 0:42:22]: with regard to this project, but [0:42:22, 0:42:27]: Um, I have been um told to move forward with trying to get this project completed. [0:42:28, 0:42:40]: I just want to add my thought. I definitely think we should be a part of it for sure. In what capacity is still up in the air for me, but I do think we should definitely participate. [0:42:41, 0:42:52]: If anything, you know, one of my one of my biggest concerns or even interest when it comes to downtown development is definitely making sure. [0:42:52, 0:42:55]: That we have a place where people can. [0:42:55, 0:42:59]: can go visit and stay as a destination. [0:42:59, 0:43:12]: More so than just somewhere we just bypasses to get to the amp theater. So first thing that came to mind um with that particular property is definitely um remodeling it so it can be attractive to a restaurant tour, right? [0:43:12, 0:43:13]: Um [0:43:13, 0:43:19]: something to that fashion. So it's something that I think that DDA should definitely um be involved in with the city. [0:43:23, 0:43:25]: Other thoughts or questions? [0:43:26, 0:43:27]: I agree. [0:43:28, 0:43:29]: I I agree. [0:43:29, 0:43:31]: That we should take a uh [0:43:32, 0:43:34]: You know, we should participate. [0:43:35, 0:43:49]: In partnership with the city. Um, I even, you know, before Bob said what he said, that's kind of where my thoughts already were when Ciara was speaking, um, you know, probably 50 grand towards the facade. [0:43:49, 0:43:51]: Um, I don't know. [0:43:51, 0:44:05]: I don't know if we have to go back and revisit our facade grant or any bylaw, anything that we need to do to be able to free ourselves up to go beyond uh what we've set out in terms of the facade grant program. But if that's the case, then [0:44:06, 0:44:09]: I think that we should be willing to um [0:44:09, 0:44:12]: put in the effort to get that done so that we can. [0:44:13, 0:44:16]: move forward in a material capacity to assist with this project. [0:44:17, 0:44:17]: Um [0:44:18, 0:44:20]: Those are just my preliminary thoughts on. [0:44:21, 0:44:24]: on our participation and what that should look like. [0:44:24, 0:44:44]: I will simply add the request from the city council as a whole. I can't speak for everybody was the request for the facade grant to match. That was the request. I can't speak for anybody else other than that. That is what was agreed upon and the request that was conveyed was for to ask for a match on [0:44:44, 0:44:50]: The facade grant. That's what was requested. So anything other than that, I would have to circle back to the council to. [0:44:51, 0:44:54]: uh get approval on and some of this information is [0:44:54, 0:44:57]: Is new to me because I wasn't uh privy to [0:44:57, 0:45:01]: The conversation and said we were definitely moving forward because that's [0:45:01, 0:45:05]: Not the last discussion we had behind closed doors. So [0:45:05, 0:45:07]: Will they will say still to be determined. [0:45:08, 0:45:08]: No. [0:45:09, 0:45:13]: Well, I was given um that charge by the city manager. [0:45:14, 0:45:18]: So um if there is a miscommunication, we'll need to [0:45:18, 0:45:20]: Definitely bring him back into the circle on that. [0:45:21, 0:45:23]: Yeah, we do. We do. [0:45:25, 0:45:26]: Go ahead, Barber. [0:45:26, 0:45:32]: Councilman, so to clarify when you say a match, if the proposed cost is 109. [0:45:32, 0:45:52]: Then you're basically saying 50% from DDA and then 50%. No, no. We're talking about what we give everybody else, which is uh whatever you do for everybody else, the city would be not held any different than that. So whatever your current FSI rules are, we're going to ask that you do. [0:45:52, 0:45:57]: that for the city because you do it for everybody else. That's five thousand dollars. [0:45:58, 0:46:04]: whatever that whatever that amount is, we would that's what was the request. But again, certainly there could be additional [0:46:04, 0:46:07]: conversations as w as far as they're concerned, but there was [0:46:08, 0:46:10]: Some other stuff that just [0:46:10, 0:46:13]: was behind closed doors that I can't share with you at this point that [0:46:14, 0:46:18]: may impact that. So we'll have to circle back to the city manager for a definite answer. [0:46:20, 0:46:26]: Like I said, I'm I'm certainly I'm certainly in favor of of if if we could give more than five thousand and like I say, I'm just you know [0:46:27, 0:46:34]: You know, I don't want to just start throwing out numbers out there, but I mean fifty thousand whatever. I I think it would I think it would really say something that [0:46:34, 0:46:36]: For the D DA to say, look. [0:46:36, 0:46:39]: We're serious about this facade grant program. [0:46:40, 0:46:41]: And we're so serious about it. [0:46:42, 0:46:46]: that that that we're willing to make a a a pretty major commitment [0:46:47, 0:46:48]: Um [0:46:50, 0:46:53]: I I I think that would that would speak volumes to to um [0:46:54, 0:46:56]: uh the other business owners in the area. [0:46:58, 0:46:59]: Bobby doesn't sound like we [0:47:00, 0:47:01]: Or even talking about [0:47:02, 0:47:04]: Anything that needs to be talked about right now. [0:47:05, 0:47:05]: Right. [0:47:07, 0:47:10]: I don't think determined. [0:47:12, 0:47:20]: Well, I wasn't aware of the behind closed doors um conversation. So um I might need an update on my information as well. [0:47:20, 0:47:23]: But it's something that we want to um [0:47:24, 0:47:24]: Oh. [0:47:24, 0:47:26]: That I was asked to have you all consider. [0:47:27, 0:47:28]: Add him. [0:47:28, 0:47:30]: So we might be circling back to you. [0:47:31, 0:47:35]: Um, very soon with regard to um how you all can be involved. [0:47:35, 0:47:38]: um with regard to the um [0:47:39, 0:47:47]: The rehabbing of this building and specifically with regard to the facade, because that is where we were asked to approach. [0:47:47, 0:47:49]: um the DDA with regard to the facade grant. [0:47:50, 0:47:55]: Thank you, Kira. Kira, I do have a just curious. Um, what is this what's the size of the um [0:47:55, 0:47:56]: The building. [0:47:57, 0:48:02]: Um I would have to look up the dimensions, but I think it's 80 feet deep. [0:48:03, 0:48:04]: Uh um [0:48:05, 0:48:06]: Um [0:48:06, 0:48:09]: twenty feet wide, but I can look that up. [0:48:09, 0:48:13]: It's roughly around that size. Okay. Okay. Thank you. [0:48:13, 0:48:14]: Mm-hmm. [0:48:15, 0:48:35]: Thank you, Kira. And I'll add, um, kind of reflecting some of the comments that were made and some questions, um, I, for one, um am very interested in something happening to that property, at least to remove um uh to address the safety issues and the [0:48:35, 0:48:41]: um eyesore and blight that is it in its current consid condition. [0:48:41, 0:48:45]: But with that said, I mean you y'all have heard me kind of um [0:48:46, 0:48:51]: uh raised that issue in this meeting um uh prior, but um [0:48:52, 0:49:12]: I um my first thought was what what is the long-term plan or what is the plan for that building? Is it going to be sold? Is it going to be leased? And if it's going to be leased, is it going to be deeded over to the DDA to lease the building? [0:49:12, 0:49:28]: So I would really want to understand what the plan is from the city's perspective on the building before we make a decision on the facade grant. Um, because that to me seems like if it's going to be a facade grant and then the building gets sold to a private somebody or other. [0:49:29, 0:49:36]: then you know that's there's there's no sense in that. So I'd I'd want to establish first. [0:49:36, 0:49:44]: Let me say this, okay. The desire is to sell the building. That's what's been discussed. Think that's not um something that um [0:49:45, 0:49:47]: Is going to be a secret. That's not confidential. [0:49:48, 0:49:50]: But the idea was to improve it. [0:49:51, 0:50:02]: so that someone would want to take it. That was the idea to improve it somewhat so that someone would want to assume it. Because if you go in it, if you haven't been in it now. [0:50:02, 0:50:04]: It's trash. [0:50:04, 0:50:05]: And it needs to be [0:50:06, 0:50:07]: uh rehab the roof. [0:50:08, 0:50:10]: Facade, several other things that [0:50:10, 0:50:17]: have been put together, but to put put it in a position where anybody would even want to take it has been kind of what [0:50:17, 0:50:17]: Um [0:50:18, 0:50:19]: The discussions have been [0:50:20, 0:50:21]: uh behind the scenes. But [0:50:22, 0:50:29]: Uh i I would again, I would say circle back to you, but you gotta understand where the council is coming from and the discussions really have been. [0:50:29, 0:50:44]: to make some improvements so that it would be more attractive uh to someone to purchase it. And then again, uh uh Kara, you would need to circle back to Mr. Gardner to understand where the rest of the picture is. [0:50:46, 0:51:06]: Thank you, Councilman. And I guess to add to that point, if um if the intent is to if the clear intent is to sell the building, then it seems that the scope of the renovation that was presented is probably much more uh is probably a much broader scope than what I [0:51:05, 0:51:15]: I would consider appropriate for just a flip. No no no, what what as again, but it was a limited amount of work that would be done and considered [0:51:15, 0:51:19]: Uh like I said, I had not really seen a lot of that information. [0:51:19, 0:51:22]: But there was a limited amount of work that was gonna be done. [0:51:22, 0:51:23]: The roof. [0:51:24, 0:51:28]: Uh some the facade and that was that was the discussion the council had. [0:51:29, 0:51:39]: And that was going to be uh you know inclusive of a potential sale of the building. But those things um again would need more. [0:51:40, 0:52:00]: uh to be blanched out and uh no specifics I cannot give you even though I want to I understand and I'm not asking specifics I cannot right I I understand and I'm not asking to but that that's exactly my point. The the scale and the scope of what was presented by Kira to me is not in line with just simply getting it [0:51:59, 0:52:13]: ready for sale. You wouldn't be receding the uh entryway in the storefront to flip it for sale. That can be based on who's going to purchase it and what it's going to be used for. So that's one point. [0:52:13, 0:52:33]: Um the other point and concern is related to it's just a legal ethical question. I just have a question. It's not, I I don't know. I would I would actually defer to uh legal support for the question as to, you know, what's the ethical, legal pro appropriateness of using what is [0:52:33, 0:52:43]: is essentially city money funded through the DDA for the city to pay itself for facade grants. So you know I've I have some questions about that. [0:52:43, 0:52:47]: If there's no issue from an ethical or legal perspective. [0:52:47, 0:52:57]: I'm generally okay with that. Of course I support, you know, what we want to do here. So I I I hope we're not misrepresenting my my the expression of my concerns here. [0:52:57, 0:53:17]: I do have some concerns about making any special provisions, especially if it's for the city specifically. Not that I, you know, we're partnering with the city. I don't want you to take that statement in the wrong way. If we make an exception, I think the exception needs to be presented in a way that's available to all businesses that would be eligible. [0:53:17, 0:53:37]: For a facade grant. Let me finish. So if we were going to consider a different amount or a different rule, then we can either make it time limited or scope limited so that any business that wants to apply and yield the same benefit as the city would be getting. [0:53:37, 0:53:42]: they would be eligible. So that that's the only statement I want to put on the floor. [0:53:43, 0:53:44]: for the board's consideration. [0:53:46, 0:53:48]: Barber, see your hand up. Go ahead. [0:53:48, 0:53:52]: Okay, I'm I don't want to retract but add on because you [0:53:53, 0:54:13]: Somewhere in my head, even though no one said this, I didn't even consider that this project would be, you know, we're getting a building ready for sale. So that definitely changes, you know, kind of how I would like to approach it. I do think in that regard, you know, at best we do what councilman said the city was asking, would be asking for initially as just a match, just our [0:54:13, 0:54:14]: Normal [0:54:14, 0:54:17]: DDA, you know, facade ramp. [0:54:17, 0:54:18]: program. [0:54:18, 0:54:26]: the same way we would if it was a private business who, you know, was looking to get those same funds. So I do, you know, scale back considerably. [0:54:27, 0:54:33]: what I initially put out in terms of our partnership, you know, if in fact the intent [0:54:33, 0:54:35]: And the purpose is to [0:54:36, 0:54:37]: Ready the build in for sale. [0:54:39, 0:54:44]: So thanks for asking asking those questions because I didn't even think about that. [0:54:44, 0:54:46]: I I will simply add this. [0:54:46, 0:54:50]: The request that came from the council for clarification. [0:54:50, 0:54:58]: Was to get what everybody else gets. That's it. We didn't ask for anything else. Bob made that suggestion, but our request was. [0:54:58, 0:54:59]: To get [0:54:59, 0:55:01]: to have uh this the [0:55:01, 0:55:04]: Facade grant program applied to [0:55:05, 0:55:12]: The building. And if you look at it with vision, it's not for the city. You prepared the building. [0:55:12, 0:55:16]: To correct it so we can sell it to somebody else. So [0:55:16, 0:55:18]: It is just simply preparing it. [0:55:18, 0:55:19]: to move it through. [0:55:19, 0:55:20]: You know. [0:55:20, 0:55:21]: So [0:55:21, 0:55:32]: And that's the way that I would look at it. But again, we did not ask for any additional funding. We just asked for what everybody else is getting, no special treatment. So cor Mr. Custin, that was not the request, you know. [0:55:33, 0:55:53]: All right, understood. And I just, you know, understood. And I think it's a great discussion. And and and I would probably uh if I could paraphrase what I'm hearing, Kira, for from the board, I think there's uh kind of a united desire to you know see something done with that building and uh a desire as well to the support the [0:55:53, 0:56:13]: city and its efforts either in the short term and the long term. The one more idea just to toss out there. If we're looking at just uh getting it ready for a sale, um maybe maybe one idea is to uh paint a really crazy bullet [0:56:13, 0:56:33]: Old mural on front and back, just to give it attention, an art project, call it, you know, just to have it as, and then you know, you put a sign there that, hey, this building's for sale. And I think something like that aligns with the idea that uh there's new changes, there's something new to see in Stockbridge and not just the old [0:56:33, 0:56:44]: um um sort of neglected um, you know, uh what we've been seeing. So just just some thoughts and uh is there anything else that we want to uh talk about before we move on to the next item? [0:56:49, 0:56:59]: I guess I need to know what um my next steps are um with regard to um what you all are interested in doing because I have to report back. [0:56:59, 0:57:04]: Um to the city manager with regard to bringing this um to you all's attention. [0:57:04, 0:57:05]: Um so [0:57:06, 0:57:09]: I am interpreting the conversation as um [0:57:10, 0:57:13]: that you all are interested in supporting. [0:57:13, 0:57:15]: With a facade grant um [0:57:15, 0:57:18]: to the city with regard to the facade. [0:57:18, 0:57:23]: for the amount that um you all have already set up the facade grant for. [0:57:23, 0:57:28]: at the ten thousand dollar level. So that would be five thousand dollars with a five thousand dollar match. [0:57:30, 0:57:48]: Okay. All right. Thank you. That's the correct assumption. The only the only thing I would add to that is to consult with the city attorneys for um their opinion on whether there's any conflict of interest or even an ethical question related to the use of the funds for the city from the city through the DDA. [0:57:49, 0:57:54]: Okay. And um you all can pose that to you all's new attorney as well. [0:57:54, 0:58:12]: Right. I'm I'm satisfied with the city attorney's opinion on that. Um to take it to our attorney, it would be an additional cost for the answer to that question. I I can't think of one, but I'm an attorney, but I would just want uh an attorney's opinion on, you know, is is there any concern from that perspective? [0:58:13, 0:58:13]: Okay. [0:58:14, 0:58:15]: All right. Thank you very much. [0:58:16, 0:58:17]: Thank you. [0:58:18, 0:58:24]: All right, thank you. Um we'll move on to uh city council updates. Councilman, you have the floor. [0:58:25, 0:58:28]: Uh one thing that I would encourage you all to do. [0:58:28, 0:58:31]: Is actually watch the city council meeting. [0:58:31, 0:58:32]: Okay. [0:58:32, 0:58:42]: I would ask you to attend uh various functions that go on with the city so you know what's going on. Last night uh we had a full discussion [0:58:42, 0:58:43]: On [0:58:44, 0:58:45]: The t we have [0:58:45, 0:58:48]: A full presentation from the provider. [0:58:48, 0:58:51]: And actually you can go to the city Facebook page. [0:58:51, 0:58:54]: And you can actually watch the entire [0:58:54, 0:58:56]: pr uh presentation by [0:58:56, 0:59:01]: uh the consultant uh but in addition the city is moving forward [0:59:01, 0:59:02]: With the процес. [0:59:03, 0:59:07]: uh with uh a review on the uh our meeting on the twenty ninth. [0:59:07, 0:59:10]: And uh if all goes well, final adoption. [0:59:11, 0:59:13]: Uh at a December city council meeting. [0:59:13, 0:59:15]: That that's what the council [0:59:15, 0:59:16]: Um [0:59:16, 0:59:19]: Um gave the go ahead to move forward with the process. [0:59:20, 0:59:21]: And hopefully uh [0:59:21, 0:59:24]: You know, you will see that uh this is very in [0:59:24, 0:59:25]: Very key to [0:59:26, 0:59:28]: Developing the downtown area. [0:59:28, 0:59:32]: Uh even brought up the question that we talked about the other night. [0:59:32, 0:59:34]: In terms of the quality of the housing. [0:59:35, 0:59:37]: And he addressed that as well, saying that [0:59:37, 0:59:41]: uh in the study even before I just I brought the issue up. [0:59:41, 0:59:45]: The housing stock was uh averaged nineteen sixty six. [0:59:46, 0:59:46]: Which was [0:59:47, 0:59:48]: That's when it was built. [0:59:48, 0:59:51]: That's the average age of the house in downtown. [0:59:51, 0:59:52]: So we talked about [0:59:52, 0:59:55]: The TED being extremely helpful. [0:59:55, 0:59:57]: uh in investing in quality. [0:59:57, 1:00:00]: He referred to it as, you know, the money that would be saved. [1:00:01, 1:00:03]: That would be invested over time. It's an investment. [1:00:04, 1:00:05]: And the quality that you want. [1:00:06, 1:00:09]: Some people might look at it as a giveaway to the developer, but no. [1:00:09, 1:00:13]: Sometimes you have to incentivize the developers to get the type of growth. [1:00:13, 1:00:14]: Um [1:00:14, 1:00:16]: quality development that you want. [1:00:17, 1:00:18]: In terms of the housing stock. [1:00:19, 1:00:21]: uh going on uh in downtown. [1:00:21, 1:00:22]: But um [1:00:22, 1:00:27]: That it that was uh the process is moving forward on a tax allocation district. [1:00:27, 1:00:29]: Tax allocation district is a [1:00:30, 1:00:31]: Financial tool. [1:00:31, 1:00:34]: To be able to raise funding over time. [1:00:34, 1:00:37]: For though to be able to reinverse, uh reinvest. [1:00:37, 1:00:39]: In a certain geographical area. [1:00:40, 1:00:40]: Area. [1:00:40, 1:00:45]: The map was presented at the meeting last night so you can generally see. [1:00:45, 1:00:47]: What that area is. [1:00:47, 1:00:49]: There was parcels that were drawn out [1:00:49, 1:00:51]: Uh, as far down as where [1:00:52, 1:00:53]: The quick trip is [1:00:53, 1:00:55]: Он Нортенри Булвар. [1:00:55, 1:00:57]: And uh to [1:00:57, 1:00:59]: Uh pass on Rock Cory Road. [1:01:00, 1:01:04]: Uh on the eastern side, just slightly above North Henry Boulevard. [1:01:05, 1:01:06]: And then slightly lower. [1:01:06, 1:01:08]: Kind of mostly containing [1:01:08, 1:01:11]: Uh the downtown area, but it did extend. [1:01:11, 1:01:13]: uh West to [1:01:13, 1:01:15]: near where a quick trip is. [1:01:15, 1:01:15]: So [1:01:16, 1:01:17]: It was mostly uh [1:01:18, 1:01:38]: commercial as what uh the the the desire is to make sure that the commercial and to make sure that residents understand it has absolutely no impact on their tax burden at all. It really is a tool used uh for business and the area to draw uh [1:01:38, 1:01:46]: Additional revenue for reinvestment, where these businesses are actually frozen, and then any additional. [1:01:46, 1:01:47]: Uh [1:01:47, 1:01:49]: Valю [1:01:49, 1:01:51]: uh on their properties. [1:01:51, 1:01:54]: Uh those revenues would actually be returned to the area. [1:01:54, 1:01:55]: And that's how [1:01:55, 1:01:58]: Uh, the bank is built for future investment. [1:01:58, 1:02:04]: So they're frozen at a line where they are currently. And that's why you want to do it before development. [1:02:04, 1:02:06]: Because the line is very low. [1:02:06, 1:02:07]: And then in the end [1:02:07, 1:02:20]: as it starts to grow and you get more value, more value, homes and commercial, then the prop those property values will increase, but that money instead of being thrown into the general pot will be kicked back. [1:02:21, 1:02:23]: to the tag for reinvestment in that area. [1:02:24, 1:02:40]: So I would advise you to go back and look at the city council meeting. It's near the end where the consultant comes and makes the proposal and it's on the city Facebook page. Uh so you can take a look at it and he go do a much better job of explaining it. [1:02:40, 1:02:43]: Than I could ever do in terms of the detail'cause there's a whole lot of [1:02:44, 1:02:45]: Financial data. [1:02:45, 1:02:47]: That makes it work makes it uh [1:02:47, 1:02:48]: Uh tangible. [1:02:49, 1:02:53]: And it requires approval by the Henry County uh [1:02:53, 1:02:59]: but government and it also requires approval by the school board. So there's a couple of [1:02:59, 1:03:01]: different processes and it takes [1:03:01, 1:03:06]: It really depends on the willingness of the two ent of the entities to work together. [1:03:06, 1:03:08]: He said it could be as early as [1:03:08, 1:03:12]: five five or six months or it could be as long as two years to work out. [1:03:12, 1:03:13]: The terms is just [1:03:14, 1:03:29]: uh how agreeable uh those individuals are. I think the school board would be uh I think very interested in improving the area where they're gonna put their 45 million dollar STEM school. So I think they have a stake in the table too. [1:03:29, 1:03:31]: And allowing some of that funding to return. [1:03:32, 1:03:33]: uh to this uh general error. [1:03:34, 1:03:35]: So [1:03:35, 1:03:37]: That's the explanation on the tad. [1:03:37, 1:03:40]: Last night we approved a [1:03:40, 1:03:41]: Um [1:03:41, 1:03:45]: A development called uh o along on uh Shields Road. [1:03:45, 1:03:50]: Brush Armor, I think the name of it. Brush Creek Armor or Brush Armor, one of the two. [1:03:50, 1:04:06]: uh Brush Creek development. Oh, it's gonna be on Shields Road and it's gonna be uh 41 townhomes um uh in that community. It will extend to um where either the quick trip is over there. [1:04:06, 1:04:20]: Because that neighborhood's been sitting back there for a while. And really the developer came forward to explain to us that it had so many requirements on it in terms of amenities that nobody really wanted to invest that much in it. [1:04:21, 1:04:23]: Uh we kind of reached a happy medium. [1:04:23, 1:04:25]: Where we got uh [1:04:25, 1:04:28]: We cut the amenities, but we kept the essential ones. [1:04:28, 1:04:31]: The like the walking pass and the clubhouse and [1:04:32, 1:04:35]: uh you know the fire a pet fireplace pit [1:04:35, 1:04:40]: and and walking trails. So we kept the things that we thought were essential. [1:04:40, 1:04:42]: uh to the development and it should uh [1:04:42, 1:04:44]: be moving forward as well. So [1:04:45, 1:04:46]: We certainly [1:04:46, 1:04:48]: Wanna make sure that anything quality comes to the city. [1:04:49, 1:04:53]: Uh, the investment is solid and that uh whatever we do. [1:04:53, 1:04:55]: Uh enhances the area. This will be [1:04:56, 1:04:57]: Exactly that. [1:04:57, 1:04:59]: The quality development. [1:04:59, 1:05:02]: Uh in new home construction that we certainly need. [1:05:03, 1:05:05]: Uh, the developer had anticipated that. [1:05:05, 1:05:07]: The price point should be be between [1:05:08, 1:05:10]: Three hundred and fifty and four hundred thousand. [1:05:10, 1:05:11]: Uh, for the towel homes. [1:05:12, 1:05:15]: And they will be s about twenty one hundred to twenty four hundred. [1:05:16, 1:05:18]: square feet. So that would be equivalent to [1:05:18, 1:05:25]: a single family home size. So uh uh as well. So this will be new investment, new [1:05:25, 1:05:28]: uh community moving in and downtown, which we don't have. [1:05:29, 1:05:31]: to uh update a housing stock that [1:05:31, 1:05:35]: That uh averages a nineteen sixty six construction. [1:05:35, 1:05:40]: That's a problem for us. So I think we discussed that at our last meeting, how we needed [1:05:40, 1:05:42]: Quality investment. [1:05:42, 1:05:45]: And this is uh just the beginning. Hopefully there will be [1:05:45, 1:05:48]: А нумера с давоком аланту. [1:05:48, 1:05:52]: Hopefully you've seen in terms of the downtown you've seen. [1:05:52, 1:05:57]: Uh the East Atlanta project actually gets started again, whether actually out there [1:05:57, 1:05:58]: Doing work. [1:05:58, 1:06:02]: Uh, Georgia Power finally moved some of the uh the electrical. [1:06:02, 1:06:04]: Which was the actual ho last hold up. [1:06:05, 1:06:08]: uh that we had along the project. So they're moving forward to [1:06:08, 1:06:09]: Uh we um [1:06:10, 1:06:13]: To uh improve East Atlanta, adding a turn lane. [1:06:14, 1:06:18]: adding ten foot sidewalks and then uh eventually approving [1:06:18, 1:06:29]: and uh proceeding with uh Lee Street, uh North and South Lee Street, uh enhancing those as well. So you know we look forward to that. And the most exciting news. [1:06:29, 1:06:33]: You know, the annexation actually passed. So we got seven [1:06:33, 1:06:36]: About seven thousand new citizens coming into the city. [1:06:36, 1:06:41]: Uh some of those are very close to downtown and some of them are actually indeed. [1:06:42, 1:06:45]: New extended DDA uh map area. [1:06:45, 1:06:48]: Because some of the areas that were very close to downtown. [1:06:48, 1:06:51]: were not in the city limits, which was a s you know, which is [1:06:51, 1:06:54]: A shame, but pretty much everything now. [1:06:54, 1:06:57]: Uh in that middle area from Banks Road. [1:06:57, 1:07:07]: all the way up to uh near Maze Roads is pretty much in the city limits. So uh, you know, there's no more holes in the city at this point. Everything is solid. [1:07:07, 1:07:10]: Uh the city limits now stands out to [1:07:10, 1:07:14]: Uh Valley Hill Road out on uh down forty two. [1:07:14, 1:07:17]: And all the way out to the Clayton County line on one side. [1:07:18, 1:07:20]: And then uh there was no extension south. [1:07:21, 1:07:23]: But uh there was some commercial. [1:07:23, 1:07:25]: Uh in the Eagles Landing area. [1:07:25, 1:07:32]: that was not in the hospital that was not uh in the city limits. The hospital previously was surrounded by the city limits, but it was not. [1:07:33, 1:07:35]: The hospital is now in the city limits. [1:07:35, 1:07:37]: All of those doctors offices to the north. [1:07:38, 1:07:40]: Of Eagles Landing Parkway, so pretty much everything. [1:07:41, 1:07:43]: Along hi uh uh Eagles Landing Parkway. [1:07:45, 1:07:48]: Uh i is in the is in the city limits at this point. [1:07:48, 1:07:48]: Yes. [1:07:49, 1:07:53]: So I think uh un pretty much uh we want to be able to [1:07:54, 1:07:56]: continue moving along that process. So [1:07:57, 1:07:57]: Oh. [1:07:58, 1:08:01]: Things are moving and it's very exciting to be [1:08:01, 1:08:06]: uh in the city at this time and uh hopefully we can continue to move the needle forward. [1:08:06, 1:08:09]: I like the aggressiveness and wanting to lean forward to help out. [1:08:10, 1:08:12]: Uh Bob with the D DA. [1:08:12, 1:08:17]: And uh the one fourteen. So we just need to get clarification on that idea'cause certainly [1:08:17, 1:08:23]: Uh I'm I would be receptive of it if that actually came to that. So but let's let's just see. [1:08:23, 1:08:25]: What happens and how this plays out. [1:08:27, 1:08:29]: Thank you, Councilman. Go ahead, Barber. [1:08:29, 1:08:35]: Um just the clarity, the annexation, is that effective immediately or that takes place January? [1:08:35, 1:08:38]: It takes it takes place January first, uh [1:08:38, 1:08:44]: And uh of twenty January first. So all of those if you come in, we have basically about [1:08:44, 1:08:47]: Forty five days, but obviously we've been preparing. [1:08:48, 1:08:50]: Uh all along to in order to do that. [1:08:51, 1:08:58]: You know, you know, we've had this conversation. If you watch the meeting again last night and you see Chief Tramer and the city manager, they're discussing. [1:08:59, 1:09:01]: the annexation and they're talking about [1:09:01, 1:09:03]: You know, the effects that it's gonna have on it. [1:09:03, 1:09:12]: For say the police now would be responsible for I 75, where before Henry County police was responsible for I 75. [1:09:12, 1:09:16]: Stockbridge police will be responsible for I seventy five from [1:09:16, 1:09:20]: It from highway one thirty eight to exit two twenty eight. [1:09:20, 1:09:23]: All the way down to Johtocko, where all of that will be [1:09:23, 1:09:25]: uh stock route so it's um [1:09:26, 1:09:27]: You know, it's extremely exciting. [1:09:28, 1:09:33]: You know, the chief was able to present last night. Uh, you know, the city has gotten [1:09:33, 1:09:36]: uh one point two five milyen dollars in [1:09:37, 1:09:40]: grants for our public safety. One of the grants was one to [1:09:40, 1:09:43]: One point two five milion dollars. [1:09:43, 1:09:45]: Thankful to uh Chief Tramer and [1:09:45, 1:09:48]: Uh, Captain Anderson they're aggressively pursuing. [1:09:49, 1:09:57]: uh grant and available dollars. And what that does, it is enables the police department to grow. They're going to be adding additional officers. [1:09:57, 1:10:00]: You know, annexation's gonna require more. [1:10:00, 1:10:02]: Time and attention to that area. [1:10:02, 1:10:09]: And they've been planning for that and they apply for this grant in in anticipation that that would happen and it has. [1:10:15, 1:10:19]: Thank you, Councilman. Any other questions or comments for um the councilman? [1:10:22, 1:10:42]: All right, we will move on to old business. Uh and I'll run through these fairly quickly unless there's questions or discussion. Uh the MLK Senior Memorial Public Art Update. Uh we did get an updated uh final uh presentation or report uh developed by the consultant that the DDA approved, uh Ellen. [1:10:42, 1:11:02]: And uh so we expect to have that finalized in the next week or so. And then Ms. Holiday, I will be reaching out to you just for your guidance on when it would be appropriate to present that to the city council for consideration for uh funding and support of a public art project. [1:11:02, 1:11:04]: to honor M L K Sr. [1:11:04, 1:11:07]: Excellent. I'll send you the agenda timeline. [1:11:07, 1:11:09]: Very good. Appreciate that. [1:11:10, 1:11:30]: Uh the new DDA logo that's in motion as well. We've gotten uh a proof of the final logo, which I've shared with this uh group, and we just need to uh pay the invoice and then we should get the final package and get that wrapped up. Uh that actually will launch a number of marketing efforts. Uh [1:11:29, 1:11:49]: Namely, uh what I'd like to focus on first, given the budget that we have for the facade grant, is to develop marketing materials for the uh for the facade grant, like a print piece that we could uh pass or mail to the local businesses, uh letting them know of the facade grant and [1:11:49, 1:12:09]: and uh and its benefits and encourage its use in the downtown districts. So and you know, and other things, things like, you know, we talked about maybe some sort of t-shirts or badges or business cards for the DDA members so that we can identify ourselves at these public gatherings. I think that would be helpful as well once we have a logo. [1:12:09, 1:12:10]: Yeah. [1:12:10, 1:12:30]: Um any questions on either of those items? All right. And the TSW master plan, they have reached I have reached out to that firm, uh, given them the market study that was prepared. Um, there was a little that's actually what brought the conversation up around the tax allocation district because the same firm TSW is [1:12:30, 1:12:50]: I believe they're also involved with uh developing the plan for the TAD. So we want to make sure that the that the plan for the tax allocation district aligns with the master plan for the downtown district. Make sure those two are aligned. And now that that's underway, I think that. [1:12:50, 1:12:55]: gives us clearance to proceed the uh master plan with TSW. [1:12:56, 1:13:16]: And the last item on old business is the uh intergovernmental agreement. And and councilman, this is something I actually might reach out to uh your predecessor. There was a question that came back from the city's attorneys on the use of the city's attorneys. And I I want to make sure we're clear. [1:13:16, 1:13:36]: Clear on where that came from. We had language in there that said, you know, part of what the city provides on a regular basis is, you know, support for things like the city clerk or our office tools or conference facilities and just some basic tools for. [1:13:36, 1:13:38]: the DDA to run its business. [1:13:38, 1:13:58]: Part of what's been offered before, this was before we uh the DDA ever hired an attorney since I've been with the DDA. Uh, councilman um or councilwoman uh aGantt had said, well, you know, you can use the city's attorney. And and and and the gentleman we spoke to today even alluded to that, that he's done that for other cities where you know they sort of [1:13:58, 1:14:18]: borrow the city's attorney for an opinion for the DDA. That's what was meant to represent in that language. Um I want to make sure it wasn't interpreted as a demand or exclusivity to say that, oh, the city will provide legal support. That's that, that wasn't the intent. So we we probably need to [1:14:18, 1:14:19]: It may be [1:14:20, 1:14:40]: adjust the language to represent what our intent was. But I wanted you to understand it verbally to see if you had any questions and and maybe we need to reach out to uh councilwoman Gantt to maybe clarify what the what her thought was in that previous offer. And you know it can either be there or we can strike it. I don't want that to hold up the uh IgA. [1:14:40, 1:14:43]: Hey, but I wanted you to understand what was meant by that. [1:14:43, 1:14:45]: Any any reaction to that? [1:14:45, 1:14:47]: I just think now you have an attorney. [1:14:47, 1:14:49]: Let them do the work. [1:14:50, 1:14:53]: Right. That's what they're do that's what they're getting paid for. So [1:14:53, 1:14:58]: And then he could explain that to Quentin and they could get acquainted and this would be their first. [1:14:58, 1:14:59]: uh transaction. [1:15:00, 1:15:07]: Yeah, good idea. All right then. Uh I will probably still loop in, Councilwoman Gantt, just to make sure that I um [1:15:07, 1:15:13]: am um clear on how that wa on that offer that had been made several times previously. [1:15:13, 1:15:20]: Well uh uh understanding that uh you know, when it when when you consult the city attorney, they're getting paid. [1:15:20, 1:15:22]: You know what I mean? That's how it works. So [1:15:23, 1:15:24]: You can cause uh [1:15:24, 1:15:27]: Uh I know, you know, that would have to be brought to council and approved. [1:15:28, 1:15:32]: For them to be able to do that because if you call in there every time you call them to ask a question. [1:15:33, 1:15:36]: That's four hundred and fifty dollars. You know what I mean? So it's like [1:15:36, 1:15:40]: It's not like you're consulting them and then nothing's happening. So anytime you [1:15:40, 1:15:42]: Річ автизем. [1:15:42, 1:15:43]: It's not [1:15:43, 1:15:47]: Free and then you have your budget and the city has their budget. So [1:15:47, 1:15:50]: I I'd have to you'd have to be careful with that, you know. [1:15:50, 1:15:52]: Right. Right. All right. [1:15:53, 1:15:59]: So those are the updates I have under old business. So uh any any questions or comments on any of those points? [1:16:01, 1:16:09]: All right, that takes us to the end of the agenda. Is there anything that we want to uh cover just under uh general topics before we close the meeting? [1:16:10, 1:16:13]: Uh real quick, we have we plan on having a volunteer. [1:16:14, 1:16:16]: banquet on December the tenth. [1:16:16, 1:16:18]: Uh, each of you would um [1:16:18, 1:16:20]: Be volunteers, and certainly we would [1:16:20, 1:16:23]: Like you all to attend and be recognized for the [1:16:24, 1:16:26]: Work that you do for the city. [1:16:26, 1:16:32]: Oh, thank you. It's the first I've heard of it, so appreciate it. Moral mandums, yeah. [1:16:34, 1:16:40]: It was just approved Monday yesterday, Roger. All right, very good. All right, that's very kind. [1:16:43, 1:16:45]: All right, anything else? [1:16:49, 1:16:52]: All right. Well, shall we have a motion to adjourn? [1:16:54, 1:16:55]: So [1:16:55, 1:16:57]: Thank you, Councilman. [1:17:00, 1:17:01]: And we have a second. [1:17:01, 1:17:02]: Back in [1:17:03, 1:17:05]: Thank you, Barber. Any discussion? [1:17:06, 1:17:23]: All right. And all those in favor to adjourn, please raise your hand. That looks to be unanimous. Thank you, everyone. I appreciate your continued support. Have a great evening. Have a great thing and safe Thanksgiving. Thank you. Good night. Happy Thanksgiving. Happy Thanksgiving. Good night.

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I'll have to go away and say, uh [0:10:27, 0:10:28]: Okay. [0:10:40, 0:10:41]: [657.9, 660.1]: [0:11:06, 0:11:08]: Sounds like [0:11:10, 0:11:20]: I'll fetch her. This picture. [0:11:30, 0:11:31]: Yeah, must be happy. [0:11:41, 0:11:43]: Oh yeah, [0:11:45, 0:11:49]: So that's it. [0:11:50, 0:11:55]: [722.7, 725.9]: No, that's actually here. [0:12:07, 0:12:08]: Okay. [0:12:09, 0:12:11]: It's not the best real. [0:13:02, 0:13:05]: I'm looking at this. [0:13:15, 0:13:29]: And that's why I'm not sure. She said she said it's not. [0:13:29, 0:13:32]: So that's that's not what I'm gonna know we use now. [0:13:32, 0:13:36]: [818.3, 820.0]: It is regarding the white one. [0:13:46, 0:13:56]: Yes, that's what we're talking about. [0:14:29, 0:14:30]: Uh [0:14:33, 0:14:34]: Yeah. [0:14:50, 0:15:10]: I just talked to the version of the five. [0:15:25, 0:15:45]: She has a she has a [0:17:25, 0:17:37]: And then waiting for this point. I I don't live in the car. [0:17:45, 0:18:00]: Yeah, actually doesn't show very much. Yeah, we've gone. Oh just right, it's still up and downtown. Well, [0:18:05, 0:18:07]: The jobs and stuff. [0:18:07, 0:18:09]: It's all our [0:18:22, 0:18:27]: Yeah. [0:18:29, 0:18:32]: That's Linda. Okay. [0:18:33, 0:18:35]: Yeah, but [0:19:04, 0:19:06]: [1185.6, 1187.0]: Yeah. [0:19:47, 0:19:49]: So that's easy to write. [0:20:13, 0:20:15]: Yeah, here it's [0:20:16, 0:20:20]: [1275.7, 1278.3]: [0:21:19, 0:21:22]: Oh, there's a bit of people coming. [0:21:24, 0:21:25]: Okay. [0:21:50, 0:21:50]: Okay. [0:24:00, 0:24:02]: [1805.3, 1806.1]: [0:30:11, 0:30:20]: Yeah, some yeah, well that's there. [0:30:26, 0:30:29]: I I study and I've not really. [0:30:50, 0:30:51]: I'm sorry. [0:30:52, 0:30:54]: These are fields. [0:30:55, 0:30:57]: You know what I'm saying? [0:31:12, 0:31:14]: Yeah, right. [0:31:26, 0:31:33]: Scared, did you want to go ahead and do that now or what? Are you doing it now? [0:31:33, 0:31:36]: Like searching. [0:31:38, 0:31:39]: Yeah, that's what it's. [0:31:54, 0:31:54]: Madam Clerk. [0:32:59, 0:33:01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [0:33:12, 0:33:16]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, I'm going to call our [0:33:17, 0:33:23]: November fourteenth council meeting to order. I have now uh six oh four. [0:33:24, 0:33:29]: Invocation if you please stand if you can. Miss Linda Jones, come on up please. [0:33:29, 0:33:30]: To the mic. [0:33:37, 0:33:37]: Right there. [0:33:41, 0:33:46]: Good evening everyone. Evening. I'm just gonna turn myself a little bit. I like to face everyone too. [0:33:46, 0:33:48]: Welcome, welcome, welcome. [0:33:48, 0:33:58]: Um I'm new at what I do, but I love being in the spotlight. So thank you all for coming out tonight for this very important meeting and let's say a small prayer. [0:33:59, 0:34:03]: Father God, thank you for bringing all of us together tonight. [0:34:04, 0:34:16]: Father, please keep us all on the same accord. Give us the guidance and what you have sent us here for. These and all other blessings. We ask in your name Jesus Christ. Amen. Amen. We pledge allegiance. [0:34:17, 0:34:30]: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for this stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:34:31, 0:34:33]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:34:45, 0:35:04]: Mayor Ford? Present. Mayor Pro Tem Thomas. Present. Councilman Alexander. Present. Councilwoman Barber. Present. Councilman Blount. Present. Councilwoman Gantt. Present. Mayor Ford, we have a quorum. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate that. Um Mayor Pro Tem Thomas, I believe we have an amendment to the agenda for this evening. [0:35:04, 0:35:06]: Yes. Thank you, Mayor. [0:35:06, 0:35:08]: Uh Mayor Council, I have several [0:35:09, 0:35:11]: Amendments to the agenda. [0:35:12, 0:35:14]: First a motion to [0:35:14, 0:35:16]: Amend the agenda for [0:35:17, 0:35:19]: Council's consideration [0:35:19, 0:35:22]: For a twenty twenty two [0:35:22, 0:35:25]: Volunteer Appreciation Denner [0:35:25, 0:35:29]: On December the tenth at the Murray Manor's Conference Center. [0:35:30, 0:35:40]: And Mayor, if you would, uh I take this from individual. Okay. S second. All right. It's been second by uh Mr. Alexander. All in favor, please indicate. [0:35:41, 0:35:43]: Okay, we'll put that down. We'll put that at the end. [0:35:45, 0:35:45]: Um [0:35:45, 0:35:47]: I'm sorry, all opposed? Well. [0:35:48, 0:35:51]: I'm sorry, discussion, sir. Go right. I'm sorry. Go ahead, sir. [0:35:52, 0:36:07]: I'm sorry, good point for Mayor Proten. Go ahead, please. I'm sorry. This motion is to add it to the agenda and once it it comes up, then we'll get into the discussion. But this is just approval to add it to the agenda for council consideration. [0:36:08, 0:36:25]: Okay, any further discussion? If not all on yes sir. Mayor due respect. We don't have a proposed budget for it because we only have one more week before the actual event. You don't have a proposed budget for it? I I do, but according to the process [0:36:25, 0:36:28]: The process is to add it to the agenda for discussion. [0:36:29, 0:36:36]: And once you get into discussion, all of that will come out. Then you're gonna ask for a proposed budget? Yes. I will share all of that. [0:36:36, 0:36:40]: But this is just to get approval to add it to the agenda. [0:36:42, 0:36:45]: Any other discussion? Once again, all in favor, please indicate. [0:36:46, 0:36:52]: Okay, unamous decision, thank you very much. We'll put that at the end of our regular uh part of our meeting, our new business, all right? [0:36:53, 0:36:56]: Okay. Mayor Ford and Council. [0:36:56, 0:37:00]: Um the next motion is to remove [0:37:00, 0:37:03]: Agenda item five [0:37:03, 0:37:06]: six and seven [0:37:07, 0:37:10]: To be rescheduled for the january eighteenth. [0:37:10, 0:37:11]: Night. [0:37:12, 0:37:13]: Agenda. [0:37:14, 0:37:17]: And I do have one more which is separate from this. [0:37:18, 0:37:26]: So I I will entertain uh is there a second to that motion? Second. Uh Mr. Els had a second to that. Is there any further discussion? [0:37:26, 0:37:27]: Um [0:37:28, 0:37:42]: Go ahead please. Okay, so I'm trying to look to see what item five, six, and seven is. It deals with the annexation dealing with uh development on one forty two and the uh applicant itself, along with the attorney the represents them has asked for this uh change. Thank you. [0:37:43, 0:37:47]: Any further discussion? All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:37:47, 0:37:52]: Now's decision. Thank you very much. Okay, that go ahead, Mayor Potem. And Mayor Ford and Council, the last motion. [0:37:53, 0:37:54]: is to remove [0:37:55, 0:37:59]: Ам сара історій. [0:38:03, 0:38:14]: Uh uh y wait a minute. I'm I'm sorry. Yeah, me I think me sixteen, sir. Let me make sure. Uh originally it was eleven. Uh to remove [0:38:16, 0:38:17]: I'm sorry, to table [0:38:18, 0:38:20]: Uh agenda item sixteen. Right. [0:38:21, 0:38:27]: To table agenda item sixteen. Got it. Okay. And Mr. Alzana second that any further discussion? [0:38:28, 0:38:29]: All favor, please in okay. [0:38:30, 0:38:50]: All right, it's unanimous decision. Thank you very much. Now we need a motion to adopt the rest of the agenda, please. So moved. Is there a second? Second. Miss Barber had her hand up. Any further discussion? If not, all in favor, please indicate. Fantastic. Okay. What you have before you is the adoption of the minutes, the draft minutes for September 12th. [0:38:50, 0:39:01]: Council meeting and also the draft minutes for the September twenty-seventh council work session. If there are no changes or recommended changes to that, we're good with that. I need a motion to accept those minutes, please. [0:39:02, 0:39:06]: Mr Mr uh Blount, is there a second? Mayor. I'm I'm sorry, sir. [0:39:12, 0:39:13]: Add to the agenda? Yes sir. [0:39:14, 0:39:22]: The uh okay. One other matter would be the ordinance for the adoption of the budget or the reading of the budget. [0:39:23, 0:39:28]: Okay. And so we're going to present that we're going to present that ordinance to you all today as well. [0:39:28, 0:39:38]: All right. Uh I'm confused. Why why we're not adopting the budget. This will be the first reading of the budget. We're not adopting it. [0:39:40, 0:39:43]: Not adopted, it's the first reading. The adoption is December twelfth. [0:39:43, 0:40:00]: All right, so we don't need the ordinance until December twelfth? All right, we do not. So first reading, public hearing. Okay, that's good. We don't need to amend that. All right. I mean I'm I'm assuming that's the correct answer. I mean I I'm I'm surprised about this, but okay. Yeah, that's that's fine. All right. All right. [0:40:01, 0:40:05]: Back to okay. In reference to the draft minutes. [0:40:05, 0:40:09]: Twelfth September twelfth and September twenty seventh. I need a motion to accept those minutes, please. [0:40:11, 0:40:17]: So moved. Mr. Alexander, is there a second? Ms. Barber second that any further discussion? All in favor, please indicate. [0:40:18, 0:40:24]: Unanimous decision. Thank you very much. Okay. Now we're on to a ceremonial uh portion of our council meeting. [0:40:25, 0:40:30]: I'll come down and council you can join if you like down front. [0:40:31, 0:40:34]: And we'll go a couple of populations for each thing. [0:40:40, 0:40:42]: So it is that just [0:40:44, 0:40:49]: All right, so we have here two. First one is going to be a small business salary. [0:40:53, 0:40:54]: Just uh [0:40:54, 0:40:58]: Main Street's gonna come on up. And by the way, it's a small bit of salary. [0:40:58, 0:41:18]: If by chance, let's do this, let's see what happens here. If by chance, if anybody in council chambers is a small business owner, an entrepreneur, come on up. If you're a small business owner, entrepreneur, come on up. So this is this deals with you. Come on up and join us. Entrepreneur. [0:41:18, 0:41:23]: All right. [0:41:26, 0:41:28]: All businesses, come on up. [0:41:29, 0:41:30]: Come on up. Gather around. [0:41:40, 0:41:42]: Well I guess I need to stay right here. All right. [0:41:45, 0:41:46]: I'm sorry. [0:41:47, 0:41:51]: Well I was gonna say I'll I'll I'll walk I'll stay right here, it doesn't bother me. I'm I'm fine. [0:41:51, 0:41:54]: All right. Thank you, Madam Clerk. [0:41:56, 0:41:59]: So look at all these business owners up here with the council. All right, good stuff. [0:42:00, 0:42:01]: Yeah, yeah. [0:42:05, 0:42:25]: All right. So we have here a proclamation, City of Stockbridge, and recognition of Small Business Saturday. Whereas founded by the American Express in 2010 and officially co-sponsored by the Small Business Association, SBA, since 2011, Small Business Saturday has become an important part of small businesses busiest shopping season. Historically, the report [0:42:25, 0:42:45]: Projected spending among US consumers who shopped at independent retailers and restaurants on Small Business Saturday reached an estimate of$23.3 billion. And whereas Saturday, November 26, 2022, is Small Business Saturday, a day to celebrate and support small businesses, and all day, all they do for the [0:42:45, 0:43:05]: our communities. This year we know that small businesses need to support now more than ever as they navigate, retool, and pivot from the effects of coronavirus pandemic. Whereas according accordingly to the United States Small Business Administration, there are currently 32.5 million small businesses in the United States. [0:43:05, 0:43:25]: Small businesses represent more than 99% of companies with paid employers, employees, excuse me, and are responsible for over 60% of net new jobs created since 1995. Whereas small businesses employ nearly 47% of the employees in the private sector in our country and contribute positively. [0:43:25, 0:43:45]: To the local community by supplying jobs and generating tax revenue. Now, therefore, I am Anthony S. Ford, by virtue of uh a vested authority vested in me as a mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. And on behalf of City Council members Elton, Alexander, Yolanda, Barber, John Blount, Lakeisha Gandhi, and Fonso Thomas, do hereby urge the residents of our amazing Stockbridge community to support small. [0:43:45, 0:44:05]: Small businesses and merchants today during the main street shop small blitz during the entire month of November. Participate in s in shop small Saturday, November 26th, and support local small businesses throughout the entire year. In witness thereof, I have hereunto set my hand on the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia on the fourteenth day of November. [0:44:05, 0:44:10]: November of our year of our Lord, 2022, and I signed a proclamation along with a clerk for Nessa Holiday. [0:44:11, 0:44:24]: Okay. Now, since since we have several business owners, but since we have the main street, why don't you come on up and'cause this deals this deals deals in your area of responsibility, right? Right, why don't you all come on up and say some words here as well? [0:44:25, 0:44:25]: How about it? [0:44:26, 0:44:46]: Thank you, Mayor Ford, and thank you everyone who is here with us today. We have a very um eclectic and unique um representation of our small businesses here in the city of Stockbridge. Um we are happy to support them during the month of November, which is the Stockbridge Small Business Blitz Month. And as the Mayor [0:44:46, 0:45:06]: told you we will also be celebrating Small Business Saturday, which will be the Saturday immediately following Thanksgiving. This year it will be November the 26th, and we invite everyone to go out and support our small businesses on that day and throughout the month of November. [0:45:07, 0:45:08]: Okay, but [0:45:11, 0:45:25]: Yeah, since I have all the uh these business owners, I'm obviously everybody can't speak anybody want a special thing they want to say, these small business owners, anybody? Okay, you're all good? All right. Well thank you. Thank you for being in the same shop here. [0:45:30, 0:45:31]: Two months. [0:45:31, 0:45:37]: Yes. I'm sorry. Okay, I'm sorry. Go ahead, please. Come on, please. [0:45:38, 0:45:40]: You can go on and tell them. [0:45:41, 0:45:51]: Great. Hi everyone. We just have um some background information for you um about the small business blitz. Um [0:45:51, 0:45:55]: We're very happy to say that the Stockbridge Main Street program [0:45:55, 0:45:56]: Воз аварий [0:45:57, 0:46:02]: A national recognition by the American Express Company who created Small Business Saturday. [0:46:02, 0:46:04]: For our innovative [0:46:04, 0:46:24]: innovative projects that we do here in Stockbridge. That being said, this time around, we normally have a small passport for everyone to carry with them from store to store. We still have that, but this year we also have a digital app. So we are encouraging you when you go out into the hall [0:46:24, 0:46:44]: If you see the QR code next to the shop small logo and promo items, please go ahead and download the app so that you'll be able to shop. All of the businesses are located inside of the app. It also gives you an opportunity to upload. [0:46:44, 0:46:50]: Upload four receipts for your purchases, proving that you have shopped at four places around the city during the month of November. [0:46:51, 0:47:09]: And with those four purchases, you'll be eligible for a prize pack drawing. So and it will be full of merchandise from our um participating merchants. So please go out and support, and we appreciate you supporting the city of Stockbridge and our projects for our business community. [0:47:10, 0:47:11]: Thank you. [0:47:20, 0:47:22]: Our next uh proclamation actually is uh [0:47:23, 0:47:31]: Dealing with uh member of the Divine Nine, Sigma Gamma Rose Award Incorporated, celebrating one hundred years of uh service. Ladies, come on up, please. [0:47:39, 0:47:41]: You know you're taking you're taking all the pictures, I said. [0:47:42, 0:47:43]: Yeah, come on over here please. Yeah, thank you. [0:47:46, 0:47:47]: Okay. [0:47:49, 0:48:09]: Okay, what this says here is that whereas Sigma Gamma Rose Saority Incorporated was founded November twelfth, nineteen twenty-two, at Butler University in Indianapolis, Indiana, by seven young educators and now has over five hundred chapters, with the organization's focus on community service being an essential part of the organization's work. [0:48:09, 0:48:29]: It is a mission of Sigma GammaRoll Sority incorporated to enhance the quality of life for women and their families in the U.S. and globally throughout community service, civil, and social action, and to achieve greater progress in the areas of education, health, awareness, and leadership development. Whereas since its inception, the dynamic women of Sigma Gamma Roll [0:48:29, 0:48:49]: Have built and sustained a well-known and well-respected reputation for leading positive change to help uplift the community through sisterhood, leadership, and service. Whereas Lambda Sigma Sigma Alumni chapter of Sigma Gown Room Sword Incorporated was chartered on June 9th, 2012, in Stockbridge, Georgia. Lambda Sigma Sigma's charter moment. [0:48:49, 0:49:09]: own model, stand up and stand out through sisterhood, service, and scholarship. It's a true testament to the work being done in our commun local community. And now there are therefore I, Anthony S. Ford, by virtual authority vested in me as a mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, and on behalf of City Council members Elton Alexander, Londa Barber, John Blount, Nakisha Gantton and Fonzel Thomas, to hereby proclaim [0:49:09, 0:49:25]: in recognition of a hundred year anniversary Simon Gamarose Award incorporated on this momentous occasion, and witness thereof I have here here unto set my hand in the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia on the fourteenth day of November, the year of our Lord, two thousand twenty two, and I signed this loan when I clicked for Nessa Holiday. [0:49:27, 0:49:35]: Mic is yours. I can say something. [0:49:36, 0:49:41]: Uh as the president of the Lambda Sigma Sigma alumnate chapter here in Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:49:42, 0:50:01]: Uh I wanna thank the council, thanking Mayor Ford and all the council members because since we charted here, this council has been nothing but supportive of all of our events and we continue and will continue to give back to the communities um that we support from the schools to teaching our children how to swim to other things that we represent. So thank you so much for this honor. [0:50:03, 0:50:14]: Yeah, this uh this uh get her in here. Why counsel won't come down this way so we can uh get a picture with everybody. [0:50:15, 0:50:18]: Two ladies in the middle. Okay, you're defined, one. [0:50:21, 0:50:22]: Come on in folks. [0:50:25, 0:50:33]: Oh no, no, no, this side. Come on, come on, come on get next year. Okay, we good? [0:50:34, 0:50:35]: Yeah, [0:50:36, 0:50:39]: You want me to turn this way or this way towards me. Okay. [0:50:43, 0:50:44]: Okay. Okay. [0:50:57, 0:51:04]: Thank you. Can you take one to the phone? Yeah. Oh, I'm escaped. [0:51:09, 0:51:20]: Thank you so much. Congratulations, ladies. [0:51:47, 0:51:50]: Mayor, if you just recognize me, that would be great. [0:51:52, 0:51:54]: Yes, uh Councilman Alexander, please, go ahead, please. [0:51:55, 0:52:11]: Mayor, I want to uh make a motion to amend the agenda. I want to uh we there was number sixteen was mistakenly eliminated and we wanna put it back on. So I'm gonna make a motion to uh reinstate the uh mo number sixteen which was tabled. [0:52:11, 0:52:12]: All right, so a second? [0:52:14, 0:52:16]: Okay, Mayor Portem Second, any further discussion? [0:52:17, 0:52:18]: Okay, all in favor, please indicate. [0:52:19, 0:52:22]: All right, so you now see s uh uh Mr. Blount? [0:52:23, 0:52:31]: D are you you for favor? Okay, so you now have decisions. All right, it's back on. Alrighty. And on that note, uh [0:52:32, 0:52:33]: Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments at all? [0:52:37, 0:52:44]: Okay. On that note we have our first uh we had a public hearing. Uh let's see here. [0:52:45, 0:52:47]: Wait, can we go on? Public hearing. [0:52:47, 0:52:52]: Please uh during the public hearing folks, uh please mute all cell phones and electronic devices. [0:52:53, 0:52:58]: If anyone wishes to speak tonight on public hearing item, please fill out a form available on the table. [0:52:58, 0:53:01]: and hand it to the city clerk before approaching uh the podium. [0:53:02, 0:53:10]: After each case is called, the council will hear from the city staff, followed by applicant and representatives regarding the proposed plans for properly along. [0:53:11, 0:53:17]: uh with any other relevant uh information. The council will be free to ask questions at any time before the vote. [0:53:17, 0:53:23]: Following the applicant, anyone who wishes to speak in favor or opposed to the case will have an opportunity to do so. [0:53:24, 0:53:29]: Each side will be allotted ten minutes total. Additional time may be expended at the discretion of the council. [0:53:30, 0:53:35]: Please keep comments and presentations professional, referring only to the facts that are pertinent to the case. [0:53:35, 0:53:39]: We will not allow comments or personal attacks toward any individual group. [0:53:39, 0:53:43]: Please refrain from applause or comments from the audience during the public hearing. [0:53:44, 0:53:56]: After the presiding officer recognizes the speaker, he or she shall direct all comments to the presiding officer and never to members of the council, staff, or audience. All comments must be made from the podium and [0:53:56, 0:54:00]: Where you are required to state your name, address for the record. [0:54:00, 0:54:03]: Please note that these hearings are not debated. [0:54:03, 0:54:23]: are not a debate, excuse me. Failure to comply with cause will c will cause you to be removed from the chamber and the buildings by law enforcement if you deviate from the police proceedings. Other than the applicant, no person shall speak more than once. The applicant may rever uh reverse part of his or her speaking time excuse me reserve. [0:54:23, 0:54:34]: part of his his or her speaking time as a rebuttal and may speak next and and last and may use the entire ten minutes allowed for the pro side of the application. [0:54:34, 0:54:45]: If questions are raised, the council may ask the applicant to address questions and or concerns. The presiding officer will call for a motion and a second to the motion and have any unnecessary discussion. [0:54:45, 0:54:49]: The matter is not tabled, the presiding officer will call for the vote. [0:54:49, 0:54:53]: to recommend approval or denial for the request. So this is our first item for public hearing. [0:54:54, 0:55:03]: Which is the first reading proposed FY twenty twenty three operating budget and capital improvement plan presented by Mr. Gardner and and Mr. Wiggins, please. [0:55:06, 0:55:07]: Mm-hmm. [0:55:07, 0:55:13]: Good night, Mayor, members of council, residents, uh [0:55:46, 0:55:47]: All right, there we go. [0:55:50, 0:55:52]: Uh [0:55:57, 0:55:59]: No. [0:56:08, 0:56:11]: And okay, just [0:56:39, 0:56:48]: All right. So tonight, Mayor Council, we we present to you the FY twenty three budget. Uh as part of this process, um, I will let you know that [0:56:48, 0:57:08]: In I guess my twelve years of doing this, this this budget has been the most trickiest of them all. Um and I'll talk to you about some of the factors that that make this a tricky budget. Um but definitely um we we propose a balance budget as we did at the first presentation, but there'll be some changes in the numbers. [0:57:08, 0:57:28]: And there will continue to be some changes as it relates to revenues. Remember that your budget is predicated on revenues, not the expenses. The revenues is what the state recognizes part of your budget. So what's in this proposed budget? Some of the things we didn't discuss before, obviously, no property tax millage is contained in this fiscal year's budget. [0:57:29, 0:57:49]: Um this fiscal year budget does have some increases, some of our permit fees to bring us up to to date with what's being done metro-wide. Um we were recommended for some fees as it relates to our cemeteries, um specifically because there's been folks burying people and not paying um or not paying the [0:57:49, 0:58:01]: right costs. Um, but also we have some increases in our water rates and that's consistent with faller and Henry County's when Henry County water authority goes up, we we mirror their increase as well. [0:58:03, 0:58:23]: Some of the opportunities and challenges uh as it relates to the budget. Um we continue to fund our uh public safety, our police department operations and requests for equipment. Uh some opportunities around uh SPLOSS, our special purpose local option sales tax, and our T SPROSS, making sure that those projects continue in earnest. [0:58:23, 0:58:34]: I think you guys have been proud of of how our public works staff have actually moved forward with making those projects um come to fruition, but also our support for economic development throughout the city. [0:58:35, 0:58:42]: and for potential new economic development sites, commercial sites that are proposing to come into the city um in the very near future. [0:58:42, 0:58:44]: Wanted uh the budget also. [0:58:44, 0:58:57]: um some of the opportunities around incentives for our downtown redevelopment, revitalization to provide incentive programs and as well as projects that will change the landscape as we know it within our downtown area. [0:58:57, 0:59:13]: Some of the challenges. One of the biggest challenges that we have is lost our local option sales taxes. You know, we finally came to an agreement with the county um after we originally submitted the budget to you guys. The trick herein is the county got their sixty-six [0:59:13, 0:59:16]: We have determined how we split the thirty four. [0:59:17, 0:59:19]: But there's also another trick in this. [0:59:19, 0:59:21]: That we found out from GMA. [0:59:22, 0:59:22]: It's dead. [0:59:23, 0:59:30]: At the time when we were going through this process, we were going through this process with a population based on the twenty twenty census. Well [0:59:32, 0:59:36]: As of November eighth, that population dynamics has changed. [0:59:37, 0:59:57]: And where do we actually get the additional um how can I say two point seven five roughly in loss? And who does that come from? Um we've been told by GMA that it comes from another entity other than our sister cities. So that's gonna play an important role on [0:59:57, 1:00:08]: and how that's distributed and accounted for. So that's some of the trickiness in in as it relates to to local option sales tax is that we still have to come up with a number [1:00:09, 1:00:13]: between the four cities and then we have to have a conversation with that entity. [1:00:13, 1:00:33]: other entity regarding um some additional sales stocks based on on the growth um that we just got, which is more than fif sixteen percent, fifteen percent of the city's existing population, but right around two point seven five percent of the county's population. [1:00:35, 1:00:39]: Some of the other challenges are gonna be around long term funding for our general fund. [1:00:39, 1:00:53]: via sales tax. I I think this discussion has been had a few times in the past before I got here, but definitely there's gonna have to be some look at at in that area as we move forward. Um and then also making sure that we manage our long term debt. [1:00:54, 1:01:09]: portfolios, you know, we've we've bonded some really cool projects in making sure that we stay consistent with making re making those debt payments um as we move forward with growth and other opportunities to look at debt service for other pro major projects. [1:01:15, 1:01:16]: Mm-hmm. [1:01:19, 1:01:30]: So remember we talked about gener uh general fund budget, which is recognized by Department of Revenue as the budget that should be submitted to them. It doesn't always include your citywide budget, but definitely your general fund budget. [1:01:31, 1:01:35]: Um one of our biggest obviously source of revenue when it comes to [1:01:35, 1:01:37]: Um general phone. [1:01:37, 1:01:49]: is gonna be uh loss local option sales tax. Uh and we're recommending that we increase that a little bit based on the percentage that we know we're gonna be entitled to as part of the new growth, the new uh [1:01:50, 1:01:53]: Changes in the loss negotiation is seven point four. [1:01:53, 1:02:13]: Alcohol beverages at right under seven hundred and seventy five seventy-six thousand. Insurance premium tax, uh, we'll see a slight in little decrease in there. We're still looking at that variable um because other communities are also looking at the number of insurance being written in their communities. And we're kind of consistent with the growth, continuous growth. Um [1:02:13, 1:02:20]: Um in the city as new businesses come in. So we'll definitely look at evaluating that between bringing back the final budget. [1:02:20, 1:02:27]: Um and then other taxes right around three point one million for a total of thirteen point five eight three million. [1:02:28, 1:02:29]: For the general fund revenues. [1:02:35, 1:02:55]: So when we talk about our source, um taxation is our number one source of revenue, which is makes up about sixty-four percent of, and that's sales tax, insurance premium tax, uh hotel motel tax, uh alcohol sales tax, liquor tax, um, those types of taxes that make up the bulk of [1:02:55, 1:02:56]: Yeah. [1:02:56, 1:03:15]: Um the next biggest source is our miscellaneous income and then uh license permits intergovernmental agreement, charge for services and fines and for and forfeitures. And obviously as you guys know, we're running our own police department, so you probably will see some increase in those over the next coming years as our police become more active in the community. [1:03:19, 1:03:21]: Looking at our three year comparison. [1:03:21, 1:03:25]: Um between what we've done from twenty twenty to twenty twenty one. [1:03:25, 1:03:35]: specifically in the general fund areas around taxation license and the governmental agreements, uh and the governmental uh revenues, um, coming up to a total [1:03:36, 1:03:49]: Excuse me, total revenue of twenty four point eight million for this fiscal year. And once again, that's predicated on us receiving additional sales tax as well as us receiving uh rollback. [1:03:49, 1:03:53]: That we negotiated recently with the county, and I think that's on the agenda. [1:03:54, 1:03:55]: I should be on the agenda tonight. [1:03:56, 1:03:57]: For us to um [1:03:57, 1:04:04]: send that official letter to Henry County so that we can acquire our two point four two point two four million dollars and um [1:04:05, 1:04:06]: And roll back. [1:04:06, 1:04:18]: to fund the police department. And I will say that once we get that money, that money will not go into the general pool as it relates to the general fund. It's gonna go in a special fund specific to the police department because that's where [1:04:18, 1:04:24]: It originally was intended to go from the taxpayers to Henry County for Henry County Police Service. [1:04:24, 1:04:26]: We will make sure that that does not co-mingle. [1:04:27, 1:04:28]: with any general fund activity. [1:04:31, 1:04:39]: And so with that comes where do we spend those general fund revenues? Um, the bulk of it obviously at thirty-four percent goes to the police department. [1:04:40, 1:04:40]: And [1:04:42, 1:05:02]: To the police department. And that'll be slightly higher if you include the cost, cost, cost for court. Say that five three times. Um, that will number would jump up to close to almost forty percent. Our next biggest department is our public works department, this funded with general fund, and that includes all of our local parks as well as [1:05:02, 1:05:09]: uh regular street programs, uh road maintenance programs and billing programs, uh out of uh [1:05:09, 1:05:12]: the public works department. Planning and zoning is at ten percent. [1:05:14, 1:05:31]: And obviously that's a crucial fund crucial department as we move forward with developing and growing the city. Um economic development is right around two percent and the rest of the departments come in under five, which includes our building maintenance, um, our finance department, executive department, and so forth. [1:05:32, 1:05:44]: Mayor. Yes sir. If we could stop right there, could you rewind to the previous uh apply? I I I want to look at this pie here and I want um [1:05:44, 1:05:47]: for the benefit of everyone here, the council [1:05:47, 1:05:49]: And the public. [1:05:49, 1:06:09]: Well there is a lot of talk about, you know, the s expenses for the city. And uh I just wanna understand and I wanna make sure that I'm clear on this. The general buildings, the government buildings includes all city facilities, correct? That's correct. Okay. That includes Merrymanders, that includes City Hall. Merlimanders chaired, this building. [1:06:09, 1:06:22]: in the police department and other public works associated with the other. The amphitheaters? Yes. The amphitheater? Yes. And all of these entities, right? Okay. Because all of those included [1:06:23, 1:06:26]: Mm encompass. What percent did you have there? [1:06:27, 1:06:42]: For building government buildings? Mm-hmm. Uh right at five percent. So all of these entities, including the amphitheater, represent a total of five percent of the budget. We hear a lot of talk out there about how much go ahead. [1:06:42, 1:07:02]: But that's that's a that's as it released to maintenance. Race right, right. Of course. I'm talking about the overall upkeep general fund budget. The amphitheaters hit the an this the Merr Manders hit, the city halls hit general maintenance and everything as it refers to all of those buildings. [1:07:02, 1:07:03]: Buildings, correct? [1:07:03, 1:07:23]: Correct. Not not the of course not the death service because that we pay a lot of that out of splots and other categories. But in terms of the overall hit to the budget, that represents five percent, correct? That is correct. Okay. That's what I want to that's what I want to hit on right there, to understand the decisions that we're making. We spend a lot of time talk talking and the public spends a lot of time and there's a lot of [1:07:23, 1:07:43]: lot of misinformation out there about what the impact on maintenance. That's the discussion that we hear a lot of in the public purview about the maintenance being all of these thousands of dollars every month. It represents a microc of five total percent of the budget for all of the city buildings. So in in your budget. Yes and and and realize [1:07:43, 1:07:48]: Um the majority of our our buildings um [1:07:49, 1:07:59]: uh under twenty years old. Mm-hmm. Right? Um, Merle Manders, this building were all built in oh nine, teared stricken oh nine. Um [1:08:00, 1:08:02]: Let's see the all [1:08:02, 1:08:20]: City Hall building as I know it is now the police department. The police department. You know, that was built years ago, obviously, and that's being renovated. So when you talk about the OM costs, the newer your building, the lower you pay for OM costs. It's like your house. The older your house, the younger your house is, the newer your house is, the less you pay on [1:08:21, 1:08:34]: operations and maintenance. As your house age and the mechanics mechanical within that house age, obviously your costs go up. Now, are there variants? Yes, like if you had a bad builder and they build some crappy stuff and give you [1:08:35, 1:08:55]: You'll have some costs that typically you don't associate. But definitely most of our buildings right now are under 20 years old. And we will continue to see low maintenance costs on a lot of those buildings for the near-foreseeable future. But obviously as they get closer to 20, 25, 30 years old, those maintenance. [1:08:55, 1:09:02]: Those OM costs will start to creep up. But right now that's where we are. Especially on a brand new building, right? Okay. Thank you. [1:09:10, 1:09:27]: So as I me I mentioned before, our overall city budget is now set at fifty three. I think when we presented last time to you guys it was a set at forty nine and change. And once again that's because we're recognizing the increase in sales tax that percentage wise that the city will get. Um [1:09:28, 1:09:45]: And that's obviously still up for negotiation because we still haven't come to a final conclusion on our split of the thirty-four and what it's gonna take to get that extra two point something that we need from the county per the law, as we were were told by GMA. [1:09:45, 1:09:51]: Um that's gonna play a critical role obviously in our final numbers that we'll bring back to you guys in December. [1:09:52, 1:10:05]: You know, we don't see our expensive numbers moving anywhere. We do expect some juggling in the in the revenues based on what's happening with lost. Um that's gonna play a huge role. Uh Mr. Gardner uh question though. [1:10:05, 1:10:13]: I just I guess it's this is a common sense type question here, really, because of our success on November eighth and the fact that effectively one January [1:10:13, 1:10:21]: we're gonna increase in size. So otherwise this budget, as we look at those numbers, this budget is obviously going to change somewhat to a certain degree, I would imagine. [1:10:22, 1:10:24]: Before we approve it in December, is that correct? [1:10:24, 1:10:44]: Correct. So the the key for us is we have until December thirty first. Okay. Enriched the sign of our loss agreement solidified and that's between the city and the counties and the cities and the cities. Okay. Right. Um I know there's call, I saw email a call for us to start having discussions amongst the cities. Um [1:10:44, 1:10:52]: um and what that distribution would be and you know how w how we will effectuate the distribution of those based on, you know [1:10:52, 1:10:57]: as it that happened ten years ago when I was a part of the process with the city of McDonough. [1:10:57, 1:10:59]: City of McDonough and [1:10:59, 1:11:04]: Stargridge gave to some of our smaller sister cities who weren't growing as fast, and so they saw [1:11:05, 1:11:10]: uh neck n little to no growth in their sales stocks and that's why they give we might have to do that again. [1:11:11, 1:11:28]: Um with some of our sister cities. And so what that's gonna how that's gonna affect what that percentage will work out to, we don't know yet. We haven't gotten to that point. Um and then obviously the fact that we brought in close to seven new seven thousand new residents into the city, somewhere between there, is gonna play a role as to [1:11:29, 1:11:49]: That percentage and then where do we get that percentage from? We're being told that it comes not from our three city sisters, but from our big sister. Uh and so that's a discussion that's gonna be have to hide. And uh not looking forward to that. But you gotta do it. That is correct. I mean what's what's what's due to us? [1:11:49, 1:11:57]: is due to us and and we shall go after it. Yes. So okay. You know, at some point we will settle on a revenue number. [1:11:57, 1:12:17]: Um and if we get above that revenue number, we'll obviously make the change as a budget amendment in the new year because we don't know how long this talk is gonna last us before our effective date. Um and that's just part of the budget process. It's meant to be amended, it's not a it's not the Bible or the Constitution, it's a living breeding document. [1:12:17, 1:12:19]: Thank you. Appreciate it. Mayor have a call. Sir, go ahead, please. [1:12:21, 1:12:35]: Mr. Gardner, the uh general funded tax revenue projection for 22 uh 2023 is 13 million, a little bit point five million, thirteen um five eighty-three. [1:12:36, 1:12:43]: Um the revenue expenditures set is at twenty two one ninety three. [1:12:44, 1:13:04]: This is only this is only looking at your tax the taxes that you collect. So this is not permitting and some of the other offset costs. So this is looking at your taxation level. So your sales tax, your al your alcohol tax, your insurance premium tax. This number does not reflect permit fees, fines, forfeitures, those other types of of [1:13:04, 1:13:12]: Of revenues that we get is just looking at your taxation side of the house that most people are always concerned about, right? What do we pay in taxes? [1:13:13, 1:13:33]: Most people worry about property tax, but in this case we illustrate the sales tax portion of the house. So we did this presentation a month ago when we did the first presentation to you guys and broke it out this way. At this point I could only go by what I see. Yes, sir. So and what and what's being presented to us and what's being presented to us all of that [1:13:33, 1:13:35]: That's that's everything in a nutshell right there for you. [1:13:36, 1:13:49]: And so when we say that we're going to have an increase and you're going there with this, I'm just trying to hear where we how are we closing the gap. [1:13:50, 1:13:52]: And and and expenditures versus [1:13:53, 1:13:54]: Revenue coming in. [1:13:55, 1:14:00]: Right. We just I just mentioned to you that uh expenses uh [1:14:02, 1:14:22]: Set right now at a certain level based on some of the recommended changes that we got from council. Um that we need to make some changes there. But those are already set. The key for us is the revenue side of the house is still a little undetermined because of the fact that we have not negotiated on our largest source of revenue, which is law. [1:14:22, 1:14:25]: [4465.9, 4467.6]: Right? We still have to negotiate. [1:14:27, 1:14:29]: a distribution number. [1:14:29, 1:14:31]: А та сам тайна ви стіль. [1:14:32, 1:14:33]: To give you a budget. [1:14:34, 1:14:41]: Right. And that budget is predicated on our best information that we have at hand that we can go by. [1:14:42, 1:14:46]: Right. If this was a non tr if this was a traditional year it'd be easy. [1:14:46, 1:14:59]: where we know what our sales tax is going to be because we know what the percentages and we guess what the growth in the and the sales will be. This year we don't know because we are in a negotiating year. And unfortunate [1:14:59, 1:15:16]: This is take this process has taken us to where we are in terms of just getting approval from the county to the 6634. But now we have to go to the second part on, and that is how do Locust Grove, Hampton, Stockbridge, and McDonough distribute the 34%. [1:15:17, 1:15:29]: So until we get to that number, we won't it's still a guessing game, but because our year is a January to December versus other folks who said July to Ju to June. [1:15:29, 1:15:46]: We're not catch twenty two because we're sitting here waiting to see what that number is gonna be and at some point we just have to settle on a number. And if that number then is p negotiated and certified is a little higher, we we recognize the value. If it comes in a lower, we make the cuts and we recognize the revenue. [1:15:48, 1:15:58]: I I appreciate that, Mr. Garner. Uh one of the things that has concerned me, uh, because one of the things I've looked at is is the numbers. [1:15:59, 1:16:07]: And when we talk about numbers, we're talking about this is the first time since I've been on this council, we're balancing our budget with fund balance. [1:16:07, 1:16:08]: That's not true. [1:16:09, 1:16:16]: Our budget was at seven thousand. Uh seven uh around twelve million. Your last year's budget was was budgeted with some fund balance, so [1:16:17, 1:16:37]: with some fund balance. Yes. And I'm not saying this for argumentative purposes. I'm just trying to make sure that when we present this budget, we present what is needed, that we're identifying every elephant in the room and being open and transparent with the citizens about what is needed for this for this city that has bonded$25 million, that has started his own police [1:16:37, 1:16:47]: Department that's had so much going on. How are we going to sustain this? And that's why I come with numbers and I want to see numbers. And I'll um what's presented tonight. [1:16:48, 1:16:51]: right now and what we have to go by right now. [1:16:51, 1:16:55]: is is not the full picture. [1:16:55, 1:16:59]: Of transparency because what was given prior to tonight. [1:17:00, 1:17:04]: With us. Uh y is there something something wrong, Mr. Garner? No, sir. [1:17:06, 1:17:09]: I just want us to make sure that we're getting the numbers. [1:17:09, 1:17:11]: where they need to be. [1:17:20, 1:17:20]: Yes, sir. [1:17:21, 1:17:41]: Because you g you you have another projection that's on here that shows a projection of budget twenty twenty up uh twenty four million. That's almost double that's double of what we what the budget was almost two years ago. And so there's there's not a negoti enough in negotiations with the county. [1:17:41, 1:17:41]: Mm-hmm. [1:17:41, 1:17:43]: That's gonna close that gap. [1:17:44, 1:17:46]: Sir you can't [1:17:46, 1:18:06]: Okay. Every budget year is different. They're not the same because every year you're going to have requests for a little bit more to do a little bit more. And when your budget grows, and that's how most communities that are growing, their budget does the same thing. So you can't compare the city's budget to what it was ten years ago. Yes, you look at it from a comparison. [1:18:06, 1:18:07]: [4687.8, 4694.1]: But to say where we are today is the same as where we were in twenty twenty or twenty twenty nine, it's a different world. [1:18:14, 1:18:26]: Because when councils say we want to see more of this happening or more of that happening, these things increase or when we operationally see that certain things need to happen, that increases your need for your budget. [1:18:26, 1:18:32]: for you to provide provide those services to the citizens. So to say yes, this is what happened and [1:18:32, 1:18:34]: We are being transparent. [1:18:35, 1:18:37]: And the way we're presenting the information. [1:18:37, 1:18:44]: In terms of what this budget requires, the information is right here. You you wanna ask questions, ask question, but [1:18:44, 1:18:49]: We're not we're not hiding anything from the residents of the city we're we're not as [1:18:49, 1:19:05]: I never said I never said let me let me say this. I never said the city was hiding anything. You could you you could let me s let me finish, Ms. Gunn. You could change the focus on a lens and see the same thing, but you see it brighter. And we are the product of the decisions we make on this council. [1:19:06, 1:19:07]: This whole city is. [1:19:08, 1:19:15]: But what was told to us on the progression of what we've already this council has already approved. [1:19:16, 1:19:17]: We are not addressing [1:19:18, 1:19:21]: What it's gonna take for us [1:19:21, 1:19:25]: in the future to accommodate for all of this revenue. [1:19:25, 1:19:27]: uh for all of these expenditures. [1:19:28, 1:19:29]: That's not on this paper. [1:19:30, 1:19:32]: So this hold on let me say this. [1:19:32, 1:19:37]: Not one counselor here, and not myself, and they have everybody got it except me. [1:19:37, 1:19:40]: I've yet to get one piece of paper to show. [1:19:40, 1:19:45]: Ані фенчованто субстей осіб. [1:19:45, 1:19:53]: For what the expenditure's been put out there. This is what I'm talking about. We're right here at the end we we're in with we're in mid November. [1:19:53, 1:19:54]: With a budget right now. [1:19:55, 1:19:56]: To go into the new year. [1:19:58, 1:20:04]: And when we talk about transparency and we talk about being open and talking to the citizens, I'm not trying to say anybody's hiding anything. [1:20:05, 1:20:10]: I'm saying that we lay everything out on the table, first of all giving it to this council, and then we present it to the public. [1:20:11, 1:20:25]: I don't see that being done. So so Mr Mr Blount, what you're saying is you're not seeing what twenty twenty four budget is gonna look like or twenty twenty five budget is gonna look like. Well, unfortunate we're not charge grid providing [1:20:25, 1:20:40]: Multi-year budget to council, we're charged with providing a fiscal year budget, which means the upcoming fiscal year. Mr. Garner, five to you comment, I have an analysis done from twenty nineteen to twenty twenty-four. Okay. And what was and what was done in that analysis through our financial advisors. [1:20:40, 1:20:44]: And our treasurer, that announcement, let me finish, sir, please. [1:20:45, 1:21:05]: That analysis showed a projection of what we would do. All we can do go by is propose and propose numbers that we may have. And if that's the case, then I haven't seen a proposed projection to show sustainability. So once again, so you had a projection done by your financial advisor probably. [1:21:05, 1:21:09]: probably during either before or during the budget or somewhere in between. [1:21:10, 1:21:19]: Yes, that's that's fine to look at where you're hoping that where things will be. But your budget is your yearly s yearly budget and [1:21:20, 1:21:34]: It's not a y you're not we're not charged with presenting a multi year budget to you. That's different from you asking a financial advisor, Hey, um where do you see us five years from now? And they paint that try to paint that picture to you. [1:21:35, 1:21:45]: We're charged with providing an annual operating and capital budget on a annual, which means year basis. No, if it's if it's if it's this if this is for now. [1:21:45, 1:21:51]: But the transparency is is that we're now pulling funds to now balance our budget. [1:21:51, 1:22:02]: Yes, sir. And and I will tell you that we're not the only city around the country. I'm not concerned about any city except the city of Stockholm. Can I finish any other cities? [1:22:03, 1:22:08]: I'm only concerned about the city of Stockbury. Understood. And and if if you could let me finish, Mr. Blount. [1:22:09, 1:22:10]: Right. [1:22:10, 1:22:17]: Um you tell me I cut you off, so I'm quiet. So here's it, right? I said in here some of the challenges that we have. [1:22:17, 1:22:33]: Some of the challenges is going to be around our loss distribution and knowing what the level will be at this time. Then I said here, our long-term funding for general fund operations via sales tax only is going to be a challenge. [1:22:34, 1:22:38]: That's what I said right here in front of you. There is no ambiguity in that. That is specific. [1:22:39, 1:22:44]: Now how the discussion goes upon that is probably not a discussion for today. [1:22:44, 1:23:01]: But something that may and council might want to discuss moving forward at a different time about hey, how do we address our long-term viability in light of our growth and development? And how do we pay for what we want what the citizens want is the continued higher level of service provided to them. [1:23:01, 1:23:03]: That's a totally different discussion, sir. [1:23:05, 1:23:06]: Mayor Ford. Go ahead, sir. Mayor Portem. [1:23:08, 1:23:12]: Mr. Gardner, I I I appreciate the dialogue. Um [1:23:13, 1:23:14]: You present it [1:23:15, 1:23:24]: a budget to us before and to my knowledge I was the only one that responded to that. [1:23:25, 1:23:35]: Uh this is the first reading, but I'm enjoying this this dialogue and this conversation. I just wish I could have gotten a little bit more of this. [1:23:35, 1:23:38]: From the council. [1:23:38, 1:23:40]: Incrementali [1:23:40, 1:23:41]: As opposed to [1:23:42, 1:23:43]: All of this in the first reading. [1:23:44, 1:23:47]: So I just want to thank you for responding. [1:23:47, 1:23:54]: to to my questions. I know it was pretty lengthy and I carpet all of the council members on that. [1:23:55, 1:23:58]: So I would appreciate that we [1:23:59, 1:24:00]: Sort of spread this out. [1:24:01, 1:24:03]: And and I didn't see any comments. [1:24:03, 1:24:05]: Based on [1:24:05, 1:24:07]: The question that I asked was [1:24:07, 1:24:11]: But it all goes back to this conversation tonight. [1:24:11, 1:24:14]: So my message to the council is [1:24:19, 1:24:21]: My message to the council is [1:24:23, 1:24:25]: When you asked us to [1:24:26, 1:24:27]: Give you feedback. [1:24:28, 1:24:30]: I think this is what we must do. [1:24:31, 1:24:38]: We can't do it all here tonight in this first reading, even though we know that this budget has to be adopted and [1:24:38, 1:24:40]: Uh in December. [1:24:40, 1:24:42]: But I think if we [1:24:42, 1:25:02]: Take those opportunities to ask those questions um as we go along, then I think we have a better understanding. And I and I just wanna say that because I do have I have other questions, just like uh Councilman Blount, and you know me, so you know I have quite a few questions, but I'm gonna hold my questions. [1:25:02, 1:25:12]: and I will just send those to you. Just like before, uh I sent you a book and and you responded back to my book and I appreciate that. And so [1:25:13, 1:25:15]: My recommendation to the council is [1:25:15, 1:25:18]: Let's give you those questions. [1:25:18, 1:25:23]: Let's get'em back so we can finalize this. But in this first reading tonight. [1:25:23, 1:25:24]: Um [1:25:24, 1:25:27]: To drill and drill and drill [1:25:28, 1:25:30]: I don't know if we're gonna get what we need. [1:25:30, 1:25:38]: But I do appreciate this this dialogue, but I and I just want to say that, but I think it's it's a good habit and as you know, well [1:25:38, 1:25:50]: This is your first year, but this council know that this is a process I go through every year. I drill deep in and I ask the question and I appreciate your response back. And I do help other [1:25:50, 1:26:10]: Questions. Question based on your response to the first question. That's fine. All right. And and I will say, you know, as we go through this process, obviously, yes, this is the this is my first budget with you guys. Um that that and I've learned a lot. All right. And so part of that is making [1:26:10, 1:26:30]: some some um corrective actions based on some of the comments I've heard um as we develop 24's budget, FY24 budget, and realizing that probably what I need to do is add that, add after we go being the staff go through the budget and we come up with it, add that workshop so we can have this discussion. [1:26:29, 1:26:48]: with more time and and perspective and get everybody's situation there and then bring bring it back. So that's that's something I l I'm looking thinking about amending the next year's process to make that happen. And and let me just add this man if I may. Correct sir. That was one of the reasons uh I expressed to you one of my concerns [1:26:49, 1:26:51]: I felt that this process [1:26:52, 1:26:53]: should have started earlier. [1:26:54, 1:26:55]: You know, um [1:26:56, 1:26:57]: Хісториклі [1:26:57, 1:26:59]: We have had a budget retreat. [1:27:00, 1:27:03]: And this is where we took the deep dive. [1:27:03, 1:27:11]: Um but you chose not to do that. Now I know it is the council's authority to [1:27:12, 1:27:14]: set how we do this. [1:27:14, 1:27:17]: But uh no one objected to that. [1:27:17, 1:27:18]: Um [1:27:19, 1:27:22]: I know you looking like, you know, what am I talking about? [1:27:22, 1:27:28]: And I don't wanna quote the charter as far as the council's responsibility as far as [1:27:29, 1:27:36]: Who sets the procedure and the process, how we come to the budget? And I will say that. [1:27:36, 1:27:40]: The city manager is charged with preparing that. [1:27:40, 1:27:42]: But the council [1:27:42, 1:27:45]: set the policies as to how to. [1:27:45, 1:27:47]: But I don't want to get into that, but I just [1:27:47, 1:28:02]: I was a little concerned that we did not have the budget retreat because I felt we needed a little bit more time uh to do that, but you chose not to and so that here we are. But I'm okay with that because like I say, if you're willing to accept [1:28:02, 1:28:09]: um my fifty questions and and give me fifty answers, I I'm okay with that. [1:28:09, 1:28:13]: Okay. Thank you sir. May I just want to say this real quick for clarity. [1:28:14, 1:28:21]: That's not one question or one statement I've made tonight that haven't been made behind closed doors. [1:28:23, 1:28:30]: Everything that I'm saying to tonight has been said before. One of the things that I I I do. [1:28:31, 1:28:40]: If I have concerns, I'm a citizen in the city of Stockbridge first. If I have concerns, I've said them behind closed doors, and I'm saying them out front. [1:28:41, 1:28:44]: So I can tell you before every council m meeting. [1:28:45, 1:28:49]: One of the things that they can rest assured is I'm gonna ask the questions. [1:28:50, 1:28:52]: And I'm going to get answers. [1:28:52, 1:28:58]: And when something doesn't sound right, I'm going to tell you. That's how I operate. [1:28:59, 1:29:00]: Ms. Gamp, please. [1:29:00, 1:29:02]: Thank you. [1:29:03, 1:29:23]: Um I I wanna talk real quick about loss. I jotted down some notes. Um the last meeting that we had jointly with the cities, well it wasn't a official meeting, we w went down to the county. Um I did speak with two commissioners and stated that maybe we shouldn't vote on lost until after the elections. [1:29:23, 1:29:43]: And that was specifically because of this annexation. So I per I believe that it was voted on early on purpose. That's number one. Number two, because now we have to go back possibly and renegotiate because of the seven based off of GMA and other advice that we received. [1:29:43, 1:29:46]: um for that portion. Um [1:29:47, 1:30:01]: In regards to no comments on the emails from Mayor Mayor Pro Tem, there was a lot of questions and we received a lot of responses. So we actually received those answers, so I'm I'm taking that in. [1:30:03, 1:30:11]: If we look at the budget from twenty twenty until twenty twenty two, it has doubled. It did exactly what the financial advisor stated. [1:30:13, 1:30:14]: Again. [1:30:15, 1:30:22]: This is something that I discussed last year. I know it was campaign season, but it is what it is. It was the truth. [1:30:23, 1:30:28]: And I don't have any I I really appreciate our police department. I do. [1:30:30, 1:30:39]: Chief Train was doing an excellent job. I get it. As I've always said, I've always been for a police department. I just wanted to do things in a different manner. [1:30:41, 1:30:42]: We're here now. [1:30:43, 1:30:50]: I just wanna know that in twenty twenty one the budget increased by six million. [1:30:52, 1:31:04]: I'm sorry, in twenty twenty two the budget increased by six million. Now we're saying we're gonna increase it again additional six million. Is that in consideration of the annexation? [1:31:05, 1:31:06]: Or [1:31:07, 1:31:27]: And also have we taken to c into consideration what our public works department needs will be? Is that all a part of this or do we need to amend or do we some things need to switch up because of the most recent election? Were we prepared? [1:31:27, 1:31:28]: Prepared for it. [1:31:28, 1:31:48]: Good question. Um, thank you, ma'am. And and the answer to that is is yes and no. And so originally obviously when we did the hand handed the budget to you guys back in um October tenth, you know, we had no idea of whether or not the annexation was gonna pass or not pass, right? And so [1:31:49, 1:31:49]: You know. [1:31:50, 1:31:53]: airing obviously because obviously that's a fifty fifty shot in the dark. We [1:31:54, 1:32:13]: We budget accordingly. I will tell you that as we look towards When when you say budget accordingly, are you budgeting accordingly? Because we couldn't guess. We couldn't guess that it uh we I mean being prudent uh you know, obviously it's [1:32:14, 1:32:20]: Th it's just it's a short either way. Um we made I made the decision to go with what we are now. [1:32:21, 1:32:41]: Because we weren't sure whether or not we were gonna get annexation passed or not. Um, even though we did a very good job at getting information out there, that still was a fifty-fifty short in the dark. And so my level of confidentity was go with what we where we are today. And if we have to make any changes, we'll make those changes. [1:32:41, 1:32:53]: as as we move forward. Um rather than having to scale up and folks ask, well why are we so high and have to scale back? Well, scaling back is not our answer when you're developing a budget. [1:32:53, 1:33:07]: Um the key here is, you know, through this process will we have the revenues necessary to cover for the increase and realize this is one quick analysis I did the other day. [1:33:09, 1:33:12]: Um we brought in three new hotels. [1:33:15, 1:33:20]: We are bringing in three new Hilton. Okay. Um, you we got the Hilton [1:33:21, 1:33:24]: Garden and sweets on one thirty eight and nine seventy five. [1:33:24, 1:33:25]: The red woof in. [1:33:26, 1:33:27]: And the travel lounge. [1:33:28, 1:33:31]: Those were the only hotels I think that came in the city's part of the last session. [1:33:31, 1:33:40]: And the holiday. H me, excuse me, the holiday and across the street. Holiday and the suites, across the street on one thirty eighth. So you're talking about hotel motil too. So so those are three three hotels that came in. [1:33:40, 1:33:41]: Um [1:33:42, 1:33:47]: We had a myriad of mixed commercial that came into the city as well. [1:33:47, 1:33:48]: But [1:33:48, 1:33:49]: The [1:33:50, 1:33:54]: Yeah, the ho but the funny part with that is the hospital don't pay any taxes to us. [1:33:54, 1:33:55]: They're just a name. [1:33:56, 1:34:05]: They don't pay sales tax, they don't pay property tax, they're exempt from sales tax. I made sure I went back and looked and checked that out. Um [1:34:06, 1:34:07]: They don't [1:34:10, 1:34:10]: Yeah. [1:34:11, 1:34:15]: I d I don't know. I I I've I've talked to I've [1:34:15, 1:34:22]: I was spoken to a couple of financial experts just because I wanted to make sure what I was reading in the law was correct. [1:34:22, 1:34:28]: They are they are considered a five oh one C three non non profit organization under [1:34:29, 1:34:38]: under Piedmont and under the state law, those type of organizations, hotels, um, mental clinics and so forth are exempt from sales and use tax. [1:34:39, 1:34:39]: Um. [1:34:40, 1:34:41]: I I also [1:34:42, 1:34:46]: Am a believer. We hear it all the time that we always want to be ahead of the curve. I'd rather be [1:34:49, 1:35:00]: Um, as a business owner, we always wanna set our pri you it's no problem setting your price higher and reduce it, but it's a problem when you have it lower and have to go higher. [1:35:01, 1:35:08]: And so that's where I am right now. Those are m some of the concerns that I have. [1:35:08, 1:35:11]: Um, along with uh you know, fund balance. [1:35:12, 1:35:17]: Um we say it all the time. [1:35:18, 1:35:38]: But um I I do want some of those answers just to give you a heads up if we can kinda figure out what our public works what what is everyone gonna need because uh let's get it let's understand it's seven thousand plus residents, not necessarily seven thousand homes or area, right? [1:35:38, 1:35:40]: [5740.9, 5760.9]: Uh we we do need to understand that these are not necessarily rooftops. You know. Hopefully we got some people that got twelve twelve people in the house, I hope. But um yeah I what I'm saying to you is it's not the rooftops, it's the population and and I'll although I'm excited and I know it it was needed. [1:36:00, 1:36:05]: It's well needed to fill in those gaps. Um [1:36:06, 1:36:15]: I do wanna make sure that the services are provided with a class service as always. And I wanna know what that dollar amount is gonna be. [1:36:16, 1:36:17]: That's it. [1:36:17, 1:36:37]: And I will tell you, uh Councilmember Gantt too, um obviously our public work department is gonna have to go in those areas and rate those streets and rate the sidewalks. Um and based on those ratings, obviously they'll fall into the into the program based on where they are, um, and then they'll be [1:36:37, 1:36:47]: f you know, we'll roll them into the funding as part of the SPLOS or the L Meg program and that number should change as well in terms of our LMEG distribution will be on our new population. [1:36:47, 1:36:51]: In the next year, so that number will go up as well. Does splash change? [1:36:51, 1:36:52]: Sploss does not. [1:36:52, 1:36:53]: Splash is said. [1:36:56, 1:36:57]: Miss Barber, please. [1:36:58, 1:37:02]: Mr Gardner, um, did you finish your presentation? [1:37:03, 1:37:10]: Pretty much. I wanted to hold my questions until after you were done with the question. So with the thirty four percent [1:37:10, 1:37:15]: Um expenditure by departments for the police department. [1:37:16, 1:37:19]: Did you take into account the grants and [1:37:20, 1:37:25]: Other state federal funds, uh, the police department has been able to [1:37:26, 1:37:31]: Because they've done a great job of identifying grants. [1:37:31, 1:37:38]: So so that that thirty four percent is their operational cost outside of any grants that they may get, right? [1:37:38, 1:37:40]: Because we have to be [1:37:41, 1:37:56]: Once again, we're we're a grant is especially the grants we apply for are competitive, right? Um but um when we talk about their their share of the overall budget is thirty-four percent. [1:37:56, 1:38:01]: as it relates to the use of our our revenues, you know. [1:38:03, 1:38:15]: If they get a million dollar grant, that that helps, right? Because their budget is close to five to six million dollars. That's a sizable. But you know, a twenty five thousand dollar grant and a six million pocket pocket. [1:38:16, 1:38:36]: You know, it doesn't have that much of a dent in terms of bringing the percentage of what you know what they would get through other means down to a point where it's where it's where it makes a difference. So, you know, yes, d going after the grants we have to continue to go after those sources of funding. But when we talk about [1:38:36, 1:38:49]: their percentage of thirty-four percent of the general fund budget. You know, we still grants are not gonna cover all their salaries, not gonna cover all their equipment, it's not gonna cover all the cars, all the other stuff that they have to pay for. [1:38:50, 1:38:54]: But we could knock off chunks of that as we go. It's just prudent. [1:38:54, 1:39:01]: Um, but that's number just a reflection of what their overall cost, their budget cost is from the total buy. [1:39:02, 1:39:07]: That's all it is. Yeah. Thank you for that. And thank you also for pointing out the fact that [1:39:07, 1:39:09]: after this annexation. [1:39:10, 1:39:12]: us bringing in the seven thousand [1:39:13, 1:39:14]: as residents. [1:39:14, 1:39:15]: And how [1:39:16, 1:39:18]: That affects our loss. [1:39:18, 1:39:21]: percentage. Um I was thinking about that last night. [1:39:22, 1:39:25]: So we will need to go back before the border. [1:39:25, 1:39:26]: Commissioners. [1:39:26, 1:39:28]: And ask for. [1:39:28, 1:39:40]: Um that share of the seven thousand plus. That's what it's looking like. And and I know our attorneys are uh are verifying the information that we got from GMA. [1:39:41, 1:39:46]: GMA pretty much said that if your population to annexation grows by more than fifteen percent. [1:39:47, 1:39:49]: That that fifteen percent [1:39:49, 1:39:51]: Can't come from [1:39:51, 1:40:00]: the portion that the cities have negotiated with the county, it has to come from the county in which that percentage came from. So [1:40:02, 1:40:08]: We annexed in more than fifteen percent. It's around sixteen point something percent of our population was annexed in. [1:40:09, 1:40:10]: That number [1:40:11, 1:40:21]: I know, and we still roughly we're guessing between sixty s sixty six hundred and seven thousand. So I used the sixty six number in my calculations, right? Um [1:40:24, 1:40:30]: That number represent about two point seven five percent of Henry County's two hundred and forty thousand people population. [1:40:32, 1:40:33]: So hence [1:40:36, 1:40:42]: That might be the number we need to be talking about, right? That two point seven five percent of the sales taxes what we might be coming after. [1:40:43, 1:40:43]: You know [1:40:44, 1:40:47]: Going back to what we had discussed with them, population. [1:40:47, 1:40:57]: Right. And we ended up going on a mix of whatever that was we negotiated with them that kept us where we are was a mix of everything. Um [1:40:58, 1:41:18]: So that's a process we have to go through to try to get that from them. But first we want to make we we're verifying that, and not that I think that Rushi isn't a j good, great general counsel. I've worked with him for 20 years almost. Um but if Rushi says that that's what it is, it's probably what it is, and we just have to figure out the process. [1:41:18, 1:41:21]: process of going and getting the money and and then [1:41:22, 1:41:36]: Is the county gonna be amenable to it and what that's gonna look like? Well that's in terms of the loss. Yes. What about for public safety? Because those same agreed you'll be taking the same approach with public safety as well. [1:41:36, 1:41:41]: Yeah, so on the agenda tonight is the resolution for us to to um [1:41:42, 1:41:45]: asked to request the for the one [1:41:45, 1:42:01]: The one point nine oh four millage rate, um which is a half the year that they asked us to at the meeting we were at a month last month. But that is for current for that is for current residents of Stockorage. I'm speaking in terms of [1:42:01, 1:42:02]: The new [1:42:02, 1:42:05]: residents that have been annexed in. [1:42:06, 1:42:26]: Will you also be going back to the county to request to negotiate that percentage as well? Lost in public safety. Yeah. So I would believe the answer is yes. That number yes, and that no so that number will that percentage number will change. [1:42:26, 1:42:46]: Obviously, and and here's the fact that I know they're gonna say that okay, the election passed in 08 it on November 8th, and obviously there was only one more month left in the year. So hence we we'll pay you all for this amount of month. So I get that. The second half of the year, which they said we have to come. [1:42:45, 1:43:05]: Come back and request. Obviously, that number needs to reflect where we were under the 2020 census plus where we are with the annexation, what that percentage would be. Yes. Thank you. Yes, ma'am. Sir. Go right ahead, Mr. Alexander. Okay. Thank you. I appreciate the presentation. I think we just re at common sense right now. [1:43:05, 1:43:25]: Lost we 7,000 residents came into the city that we're responsible for their public safety, their planning and zoning, and all of the above. So pretty much they understand that the public safety took weight off of them. The fact that we were able to put total personnel, 62%. [1:43:25, 1:43:45]: plus 50 plus officers on the street took weight off of them. It allowed them to redistribute those officers to outline areas. And I tell everybody this all the time. What we did and the courageous decision that we made made everybody in Henry County safer. Because those there's more officers patrolling and [1:43:45, 1:44:05]: Unincorporated areas than ever before. Whereas there was a shortage before, those officers are out there now, and the city police uh takes care of what we're doing. We've been focusing a lot tonight on what the expense side was. But there was a the the the very best thing that happened November. [1:44:05, 1:44:25]: The 8th? Well, there was a windfall of revenue that's attached to November the 8th when it comes to uh the total number of businesses coming into the city. As we talked about the hotel motel tax, all of the businesses, the medical uh around Piedmont Henry, including Piedmont Henry, in terms of their [1:44:25, 1:44:45]: business licensing in terms of um uh their planning and zoning and in terms of ex uh uh you know other services as well. So that is a big deal to what we're coming from to help offset bringing those residents in. They bring revenue because unlikely [1:44:45, 1:44:50]: You know, many people looked at the map and they did not understand you can look at it. [1:44:50, 1:45:10]: The Holiday Inn, which was pr probably the busiest hotel, uh bringing in the most hotel motel tax in the county, uh, right at 138, was not in the city, even though it's right there. It was not there. All of those accessory businesses that are in there, the restaurants, the uh all of that that was in there. [1:45:10, 1:45:13]: Uh you look at P. Mont Henry. [1:45:14, 1:45:34]: All of that medical that was along right there along uh Rock Quarry, the building right next to Pete Monthry, all of those doctors offices that were not there previously, those businesses are now in the city. All of those would generate revenue for us. So there was a reason that, you know, many [1:45:34, 1:45:54]: Many of us were out there knocking on doors and doing what's necessary in our private time to do that because we understood that there was a a real win bringing those residents into the city, uh, in addition to uh giving them an opportunity uh to vote uh in the upcoming elections. But um I want [1:45:54, 1:46:14]: To talk about that side right there in terms of the revenue that we're looking at uh bringing into the city with all of these businesses, different covenants. So certainly there will be some um research done and again attached to that, every last one of those 7,000 residents will be an increase in that public safety. [1:46:13, 1:46:32]: uh revenue that we would bring in in addition to the one point nine as Miss Barber has stated. Yeah, th they should count, yes. I think that's what she was saying, and I think we agree that they should count as part of the percentage. So that percentage should go beyond the one point oh nine. Um well, hold on. [1:46:35, 1:46:37]: Let me take a step back. I just realize I'm [1:46:38, 1:46:39]: I'm wrong. [1:46:40, 1:46:54]: The one point oh nine sales tax um property tax that was being paid, I think is being paid by those folks who are in the annexation area. [1:46:55, 1:46:56]: Um [1:46:57, 1:46:57]: No. [1:46:58, 1:46:58]: I'm wrong. [1:46:59, 1:47:19]: Right, because it would be going to them. It wouldn't be coming to us. So so every Henry County resident paid a paid taxes to Henry County. And they paid into the fire, the police, um, Parks and Rec. These were the S the based on SDS the just the the level of service, yes. So our portion for all of the residents. [1:47:19, 1:47:31]: Who live in Stockbridge makes up one point one point nine oh four. Now we gotta figure out what those seven thousand people who weren't part of it, which are probably close to [1:47:34, 1:47:37]: If if we make up that amount, it should be probably around the same [1:47:38, 1:47:58]: Um but we'll we'll definitely effort that number. We should be able to get what that what that would look like and go to them with a round number saying this is what you owe us. Yes. So yes. Absolutely. So uh I certainly appreciate that. It's kinda like, you know, uh in terms of future development as well. [1:47:58, 1:48:18]: Uh the three hundred acres that's coming in right around Flippin' Road, uh in that particular area where uh it's prime right there at six seventy five and I seventy five. We uh developments such as what we had at Jodico generates a tremendous amount of planning and zoning uh fees and revenue that were coming to the city. [1:48:18, 1:48:28]: city, all of that vacant land where we were basically at the point where we were running out of vacant land in the city brings a windfall to the city as well with future development, correct? [1:48:30, 1:48:50]: And there's and there's potential for an additional two to three three hundred acres coming into the city. And uh we're working with some folks now to make sure we finalize that on one of our major interstate corridors. Right. So I just it's so important that we deal with economic development and and and every time [1:48:50, 1:49:10]: Why are we talking about economic development so much? Because economic development drives what we're doing. And we talk about it, and I want you to say this one more time. The 2023 budget does not anticipate and increase no city tax, right? The 23 budget you presenting to us does not include a city tax. So everybody can hear that. [1:49:10, 1:49:11]: Loud and clearly. [1:49:11, 1:49:31]: Yeah. The the FY twenty twenty twenty three budget does not have any property tax from the city in their proper in in this budget. No. All right, thank you. Now I will tell you that you will what will happen is as a reflection of the county signing over that that rollback to us. [1:49:31, 1:49:42]: You'll see that in the budget obviously, but it won't be an a tax that the city has voted to impose. It'll be the rollback that comes that they were paying to Henry County for a service that Henry County no longer r render to them. [1:49:42, 1:49:55]: Yes. Ms. Ms. Gantt, I'm stand by, sir, please. Ms. Gantt, you had something to say. I I did. P Von Henry is considered a non profit organization and they have been tax exempt since nineteen ninety six. [1:49:57, 1:50:03]: Um, so I just looked that up. I d I d you know, I agree there are a lot of medical facilities around it. [1:50:04, 1:50:07]: But it is considered a non profit. Now our attorneys could um [1:50:08, 1:50:12]: You know, there are few tax exempt statuses. [1:50:12, 1:50:22]: uh which were all non profits, blood drop blood banks and stuff of that nature. So maybe our attorneys can look at that a little bit more in depth. Um [1:50:22, 1:50:29]: I I kinda cringe sometimes when we talk about taxes because if we're using fund balance, eventually it depletes. [1:50:29, 1:50:34]: Which we've already been advised that at some point we'll have to have a city property tax. [1:50:34, 1:50:40]: I'm not gonna shy away from that to the public or to any of our constituents, you know. [1:50:40, 1:50:45]: a at some point no one's gonna be happy about that. I don't want one. [1:50:46, 1:50:48]: I think we're taxed too much. [1:50:48, 1:50:52]: Across the board, federal and local, especially small businesses, we get [1:50:53, 1:50:57]: really hurt. We re we get really dinged and so I'm not here [1:50:58, 1:50:59]: To sugarcoat that [1:51:00, 1:51:05]: Really, to be honest, um, you know, we're we're taking from fun balance now. [1:51:06, 1:51:07]: We can't keep taking from it. [1:51:09, 1:51:13]: And although we annexed in some hotels, that's hotel motel tax. [1:51:14, 1:51:22]: A portion of it goes towards it. A portion of it goes towards that. And although we you know, and then even when we do it that way, there are certain things we can spend on. [1:51:22, 1:51:32]: Well three percent three percent of the eight goes to your general fund for use any kind of way. The rest of it is restricted. Right. It's restricted. [1:51:32, 1:51:33]: I just want [1:51:34, 1:51:49]: to be able to tell the truth. That's it. And I'm not saying we're not telling the truth, but I'm not gonna project something and make it all cloudy. I can't say that. I can I can say that we're a grown city, we're gonna be the best city that we possibly can be. [1:51:50, 1:51:51]: But at some point [1:51:52, 1:51:56]: based off of the fact that we have a police department, based off the fact that we have [1:51:56, 1:51:56]: Um [1:51:57, 1:51:58]: А к грун коммуніті. [1:51:59, 1:52:00]: I believe that [1:52:00, 1:52:18]: based off of financial advisor's advice that we will eventually have a city tax. And we're there's no need of us trying to convince it one way or another. Right now in that twenty twenty three budget it says we won't. Right. That's it. That's all I can do. Statutorily we couldn't do it any way we wanted to. [1:52:19, 1:52:19]: Correct. [1:52:20, 1:52:40]: Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. Thank you. Um excuse me. Uh I I'm going to agree with all of that as far as the future, but what I really want to say is just thank you for your presentation. And Mayor Ford, I wanted to uh suggest that we move the agenda along. [1:52:39, 1:52:40]: Um [1:52:42, 1:53:00]: You know, I think we need to continue to ask our questions as we go through this process, but I just want us to to move the agenda along. Thank you. I appreciate uh Mr. Blount, do you have some last minute comments or yeah, just just the last comment. I just want to make it clear that we um [1:53:00, 1:53:06]: We you you just made a statement that there's no tax projection for twenty twenty three. There's not. [1:53:07, 1:53:10]: Stand by please. Go ahead, Mr Blount, please continue with statement. [1:53:10, 1:53:14]: When we do a rollback from the county of what is it one point nine oh four [1:53:15, 1:53:22]: When you roll back from the county, the rollback is simply that the city of Stockbridge doesn't pay that tax to the county anymore. [1:53:23, 1:53:29]: So when does the city pay that tax? We're not gonna pay it in twenty twenty three because we're gonna take that [1:53:30, 1:53:33]: fund balance and cover that tax base of one point. Well [1:53:34, 1:53:53]: Well so so the way it works, no i i y you you so the residence in Henry County was paying for their police portion of the police service at one point oh nine. Once once we started our police department, that became the duplicative services and or what they call double taxation. [1:53:53, 1:54:01]: So Henry County at some point, whether they liked it or not, would have been breaking the law if they continued saying we weren't getting our money back. But we won't talk that. [1:54:01, 1:54:19]: Once they decide to give that money to us, obviously that mut that amount will go away on the on the residents' next next tax bill. It will be gone. The Helena County will pay us obviously for the fact that we're providing services to the residents for this year. [1:54:19, 1:54:25]: But as of the next tax year, because remember this when we were discussing this, taxes are collected and arranged. [1:54:26, 1:54:34]: That'll go away. The city if the city doesn't impose it, it will go away. It will be a reduction to all the residents at one point. [1:54:34, 1:54:36]: Well let me ask you a question. [1:54:37, 1:54:50]: If there's any rollback from the county, how would the city of Stockbridge retain that money back from the citizens? You would have to impose a property tax. And that's exactly what I'm trying to get to. You would have to. So [1:54:50, 1:55:10]: We w anytime there's a service is done that we do, and I get that we cannot they cannot get you can't have double taxing from the city and and and the county for the single services that is rendered. And I get that the citizens of Stockbridge have been have paid taxes into the services as of a certain [1:55:10, 1:55:23]: certain date and certain time. So when we say we can throw up the flags and let the balloons go and say there's no tax for twenty twenty three, but when we talk about sustainability for the city of Stockbridge, we have to talk tax [1:55:24, 1:55:44]: Because of everything that's on the table and because of the rollback has to be paid back into our budget. All of these things. So we can throw the balloons in 2023, but I'm trying to say transparency is don't well let's not talk twenty twenty-three and then you know and and and and hip hip parade. We got some serious financial decisions happening. [1:55:44, 1:55:47]: has to be made in the city beyond twenty twenty three. That is correct. [1:55:48, 1:55:53]: Mayor, I just need to respond to that quickly. Okay, we'll make this last one so we can move on to a public hearing. [1:55:54, 1:56:00]: I I I just wanna understand one thing and I and I just said it again. There's no tax city tax in twenty twenty three. [1:56:01, 1:56:20]: What it really amounts to is that the citizens are concerned about what's coming out of their pocketbook. That 1.9%, they've been paying it forever and a day, right? It's not a it's not a new tax. That's not something that we're imposing upon them. They've already been paying the 1.9%. [1:56:21, 1:56:41]: Every year. So from a citizen standpoint, they will see no difference because they've already been paying that one point nine to the county and they will not see any difference in that. That is what we're saying. So no, the city is not imposing the one point nine. They've already been paying the one point nine. [1:56:40, 1:56:54]: That is what needs to uh folks need to understand. You know, so that is uh the the most important part and and I just want everybody to understand one thing, i i the final thing. [1:56:54, 1:57:14]: Listen, governments from the federal government, the state government, and local government, nobody up here can tell you what the tax is going to be three years from now. You ask the state of Georgia, are y'all gonna raise taxes next year? Could they tell you? No. If you ask Henry County, are you gonna raise taxes next year? [1:57:14, 1:57:29]: year could they tell you no if you ask the federal government are you gonna raise taxes next year no they do exactly what we're doing and Mr. Gardner explained they do a budget they cut they look at the what the revenues are determined to be [1:57:29, 1:57:49]: They look at what uh they need to do in terms of what the taxation to be able to set the tax rate. They don't go five years down the road. They go to what needs to be done right now. That's what we're doing. Next year, when Henry County has their millage rate meeting, they will decide whether twelve point seven three three is sufficient. [1:57:49, 1:57:54]: They will increase the rate. [1:57:55, 1:58:00]: I I asked Mr. Gardner, Mayor. I asked Mr. Gardner. [1:58:00, 1:58:03]: That our financial advisor come here tonight. [1:58:04, 1:58:07]: Because these elected officials, we're gonna tell you what we want you to hear. [1:58:08, 1:58:11]: Бо воені по тіл і вот а факт із. [1:58:12, 1:58:13]: That's what I want you all to hear. [1:58:14, 1:58:18]: I want you all to hear the facts. We are not financial advisors up here. [1:58:19, 1:58:24]: And this is why I wanted the financial advisor present because what they're going to say [1:58:24, 1:58:44]: With their mouths cut the same way, is gonna be different from what you're hearing right now tonight. I can guarantee you that. All right, so otherwise, uh is that something that uh we can possibly do for the next uh reading to have'em here if that's a necessary thing to do? If it if it's to issue the council, you don't want Mr. Ward. [1:58:44, 1:59:00]: This is a public hearing, ladies and gentlemen. So I want to open it up and since it is a public hearing. And so I'm going to start on my left, which is over here. Any comments, uh, any comments, positive comments uh for on public hearing over here in my far uh left side. [1:59:02, 1:59:03]: Anybody in the mirror at all? [1:59:05, 1:59:06]: Yes, ma'am. [1:59:06, 1:59:10]: You c you had you have to come out to the podium. Come up to the podium and uh [1:59:10, 1:59:14]: It's re re yeah, it's rubbing to the budget now. Well but ma'am, it's re [1:59:15, 1:59:16]: Oh. [1:59:16, 1:59:17]: Mm-hmm. [1:59:17, 1:59:37]: Yeah, name and address please. This is this is this is a four. This is like four is a positive comment, not a negative comment. This is just a name and address please. Oh Amenta Jones, six twelve Tahoe Trail in Stockwich, Georgia. Okay. I'm in the city limits. Okay. When you were talking about GMA, what did that mean? Georgia municipal [1:59:37, 1:59:41]: Okay. That's what it is. Georgia Municipal Association. Okay. [1:59:42, 1:59:52]: Uh okay. Okay, any any uh positive comments on the far uh my far right? Okay. Uh okay, any comments on the negative side if it need be on my far left. [1:59:53, 1:59:54]: In the middle. [1:59:55, 2:00:11]: Far right. All right. On that note there are no comments. So um close the public hearing. This is just the first reading, so it doesn't take a vote that I know of at this point. And so we'll move on to our next uh agenda item. Which brings us to the uh [2:00:11, 2:00:31]: Uh number eight actually a comprehensive uh this we're still in the public hearings phase though. Comprehensive plan amendment case CP two zero two two two dash zero five. John R. Landers Jr. applicant requests a comprehensive plan uh amendment to change the future land use description uh designation, excuse me, a parcel S twenty seven. [2:00:31, 2:00:51]: Senior Heritage Trail from a medium density residential to heavy industrial to allow for industrial development. The property contains 1.962 acres, plus or minus acres, and is located in land. [2:00:51, 2:01:00]: Plan lot thirty-six of District twelve within the Stockbridge City Limits, presented by Mr. Randon uh Ryan Anderson, please. [2:01:00, 2:01:20]: Okay. The applicant up the applicant operates a house moving business from the property where he parks vehicles and stores business equipment outdoors. He proposes to continue the same use but to construct a small modular building on the property in compliance with UDC section three point two twenty to store his equipment. LI districts are local. [2:01:20, 2:01:31]: Located to the north and east of the property. Modular buildings are allowed both in L I and HI districts. Memorial Park and the City Transfer Station are located to the south of the property. [2:01:34, 2:01:54]: Uh the number of acres on the site first address. The address for the site is 400 it was 443 MLK Senior Heritage Trail. It's 1.962 acres. The property characteristics is the outdoor storage of business equipment and vehicles for a house moving company. The current land use designation is medium density residential. [2:01:54, 2:01:57]: Here's the aerial photo of the site right here. [2:02:00, 2:02:06]: If you can see my cursor or right there. Right there is the um is the city's transfer station. [2:02:07, 2:02:12]: Across the street, across where Quarry Road is the ready mix storage. [2:02:13, 2:02:22]: I mean the Red Mix Concrete Company and uh the MLK Senior Heritage Trail and Memorial Park is the south of the of the facility. [2:02:24, 2:02:44]: Here is a picture of the um an aerial photo of the applicant's business. You can see the equipment stored outside. It's stored outside on a um a suburban residential property uh which gives the property a legally non-conforming status. Um the reason why the applicant wants to go to to light industrial because he proposes to build a modular building on the property. [2:02:44, 2:02:48]: And right now he can't expand or increase the nonconformity of the lot. [2:02:53, 2:02:59]: The City of Stockbridge's current comprehensive plan lists the property as medium density residential. [2:02:59, 2:03:10]: However, the current future land use is incompatible with the requested zoning. Therefore the applicant is seeking a comprehensive plan amendment to change the future land use density designation from medium density to heavy industrial. [2:03:13, 2:03:33]: The surrounding land uses. Property to the north, like I mentioned earlier, you got the Redamix USA Stockbridge Concrete Plant, and its current designation is Light Industrial. South of the property, you got Memorial Park. Its current land use designation is park recreation and conservation. Property to the east of the subject property is vacant land, and this is [2:03:33, 2:03:42]: Current land use designation is public institution. Public institutional and to the west of the property you got vacant land and it's medium density residential. [2:03:45, 2:03:59]: The future land use uh four hundred forty three senior heritage trail. Across the street on Rock Quarry Road, you have heavy industrial and one of the recomm recommendations by staff is to use Rock Quarry Road as a boundary to keep all the industrial [2:04:00, 2:04:02]: Property East. [2:04:02, 2:04:10]: Keep out the light industrial uses east. I mean, keep out heavy industrial use east of ro of Rock Quarry Road and not to have um heavy industrial [2:04:12, 2:04:14]: To be included on this side of of Rock Rory Road. [2:04:15, 2:04:26]: The right here if you look at my cursor, that's the um the subject property right here. And right across you see, you have light industrial land uses and you have light industrial land uses over there. [2:04:27, 2:04:47]: Uh the proposed development is not consistent with the comprehensive plan future land use designation of medium density residential. Therefore, the applicant has requested a comprehensive plan amendment via CP twenty twenty-two oh five to change the property land use designation to heavy industrial, which would allow the proposed metal building to be to be built. Once again, [2:04:47, 2:05:07]: You have to remember that the subject property is currently a non-conforming land use. He's storing line, heavy well, he's storing industrial property on a suburban residential land district. The property requested zoning districts are not compatible with the list of permitted use, permitted zoning districts that are found in the comprehensive plan to allow for. [2:05:07, 2:05:27]: Proposed zoning, the applicant has requested the rezoning of the property from SR to HI Heavy Industrial to allow for the building to be built. The rezoning will be heard concurrently with this case. The proposed heavy industrial land use designation would not be compatible with the other surrounding areas that are comprised of light industrial and residential uses. [2:05:27, 2:05:33]: There are heavy industrial uses in the greater vicinity. It is separated distinctly by Rock Quarry Road. [2:05:34, 2:05:54]: Maintaining the current land use would deny the applicant for developing his proposed projects. The applicant's proposed rezoning is not feasible and compatible with the surrounding community since the area's primary light industrial and residential. And also the subject property is next door to the transfer station, so it probably would would never be developed as a residential property. [2:05:54, 2:05:56]: Yeah. [2:05:56, 2:06:16]: The proposed comp plan amendment project will result in a negative impact on the overall community because it will introduce heavy industrial uses into our area that is predominantly light industrial and residential. Staff recommend keeping the heavy industrial uses to the east of Raw Courry Road and not allow such uses to encroach into the area. [2:06:16, 2:06:17]: Yeah. [2:06:18, 2:06:36]: Uh the staff report has d demonstrated that the comprehensive plan amendment via CP twenty-two oh five will not be desirable for the subject property. As a result, planning and zoning staff recommends denial of CP twenty-two oh five to heavy industrial land use. However, staffs recommend approval with condition. [2:06:37, 2:06:47]: Recommends approval of light industrial land use in conjunction with the requested rezoning of the property via R Z twenty two oh six to allow for the applicant's proposed use. [2:06:51, 2:06:55]: Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. Do you have a question? Yeah, I have a question. Is the advocate in here? [2:06:55, 2:06:56]: Yes, sir. [2:06:56, 2:07:16]: Well I got a question for you. Um when this use as is was permitted, how was it permitted to how how was it permitted and with outside of the uh actual land use? Uh it was permitted before we adopt adopted the new uh unified development code so we to give [2:07:16, 2:07:34]: gives it a a legally non-conforming status. A legally non-con uh conforming status mean that there's a use that is not is not a the the use should be industrial, but right now it's is he's using something that's he's using a, I can't explain it right now. [2:07:35, 2:07:50]: He has an incompatible land use upon the in a s suburban residential district and in and it incur in a in normal situ in normal circumstances that would not be allowed. But because he was there before the adoption of the UDC, he's legally nonconforming. [2:07:50, 2:07:56]: Grandfather So so prior to the UDC he was compatible to the land use? Is that what you're saying? Yes. Mm-hmm. [2:07:59, 2:08:19]: Clarification. Uh good evening, council members. So the use was on the property prior to the code going into into in place. Um we have several properties that have either been there for years and years and years and years and have never done any additional either things on the property like needed to get permits. [2:08:19, 2:08:37]: permits or change ownership on a business license, those types of things. It is considered a legally non-conforming use, which means that he cannot build anything on that lot of an industrial nature unless it goes through the rezoning process. And that's the process that he is requesting before you now. [2:08:38, 2:08:51]: Then my question is then the the proposed uses that he's talking about, have you seen any plans on the proposed usage? Uh how how uh or anything pertaining to that after the uh b uh after the UDC was implemented? [2:08:52, 2:09:03]: No, we we have a plan for a a twenty four hundred square foot building. Um however the the building the building owner or property owner does have to bring the property [2:09:04, 2:09:09]: into compliance with the current code for the industrial uh designation for zoning. [2:09:09, 2:09:12]: So they still would have to in order to build anything. [2:09:12, 2:09:19]: they would have to pave it. They would have to put in the landscaping necessary in order to be able to to develop on this property. [2:09:21, 2:09:25]: And so the land usage would just be whatever industrial uses he wants. [2:09:26, 2:09:41]: Well the the land use is for our comprehensive plan, which currently is showing as um low density uh and parks. So if coming in, he can't do industrial in a land use that is parks or recreation. [2:09:41, 2:09:50]: So part of the wr process for a comprehensive plan amendment is to change it to industrial, which would allow this zoning to happen in light industrial. [2:09:51, 2:10:03]: Okay.'Cause r right now I'm I'm looking at on on that s if that's the same site I'm talking about, the one right across the bridge on the north side uh south side, I'm sorry, south side of uh [2:10:03, 2:10:06]: uh on the south side of um [2:10:07, 2:10:21]: Emma King Harriet's Trail, is that correct? That right there on the corner of Rock Quarry and and Emma King Harriet's Trail that butts up to the the back end butts up to the transfer station. Yes. And that's the project. [2:10:24, 2:10:26]: Okay. [2:10:27, 2:10:30]: With with the way that land is configurated. [2:10:30, 2:10:35]: We have the right away to anything on coming out on [2:10:36, 2:10:38]: The Heritage Trail side, is that correct? [2:10:39, 2:10:46]: So if anything that they that would be built there for future use would have to come out on Rock Quarry. Is that correct? [2:10:46, 2:11:03]: For this particular site, yes, they have access from Rock Quarry. Or from from uh MLK uh heritage for this particular property. The their interest now is M L K Heritage Trail? Yes, sir. And so that would be the only interest and exit even if they go into high density and bill? [2:11:04, 2:11:10]: That would be the only entrance and exit is right there. Correct. That's the only access they have to uh uh infrastructure road. [2:11:10, 2:11:14]: So but at this point you have nothing that's showing why what they're [2:11:14, 2:11:34]: Far as any plans. No. Do you have plans for any after I mean the applicant definitely can come up and answer that. Um but we do have a rezoning case that follows this that talks a little bit more about that. But the applicant, whatever is built there, has to meet the current code. So they would bring in plans, they we'd be reviewing it based on um those [2:11:34, 2:11:36]: criteria under light industrial. [2:11:37, 2:11:38]: Okay. [2:11:39, 2:11:42]: Report Tim, go ahead, please. Thank you. Um [2:11:43, 2:11:54]: Mr. Anderson and Mrs. Carter, thank you for that presentation. The problem that I have with with this is the future. [2:11:55, 2:11:56]: Um [2:11:58, 2:12:01]: This proposal does not coincide with [2:12:02, 2:12:11]: the future of M. L. King Harris's trail and that residential community that's in that area. [2:12:12, 2:12:18]: There's also a master park plan that is moving forward. [2:12:19, 2:12:26]: that does not coincide um you know with the future plan [2:12:26, 2:12:33]: Uh mister Anderson, uh even though he's grandfather to a certain extent, but you laid out [2:12:33, 2:12:35]: The facts [2:12:35, 2:12:36]: Why? [2:12:36, 2:12:38]: It should not be [2:12:38, 2:12:42]: Uh it's it's it's medium density, residential. [2:12:43, 2:12:45]: But but my emphasis [2:12:45, 2:12:47]: is on the future [2:12:47, 2:12:48]: Planned. [2:12:49, 2:13:01]: for ML King Heritage Trail. And you have a community there that even have issues with the transfer station. And there is um a movement of foot [2:13:02, 2:13:04]: To even move that [2:13:04, 2:13:11]: across the street as you indicated that is designated for a heavy industrial. [2:13:12, 2:13:13]: That's the future. [2:13:14, 2:13:19]: So and and and I didn't wanna say that I live in that area, but I do. [2:13:20, 2:13:21]: And so [2:13:21, 2:13:23]: I cannot see. [2:13:24, 2:13:25]: Um [2:13:26, 2:13:27]: Any [2:13:27, 2:13:29]: construction any [2:13:29, 2:13:31]: type of business of that nature. [2:13:32, 2:13:34]: Coming into this neighborhood. [2:13:34, 2:13:35]: Um [2:13:36, 2:13:48]: And I'm not gonna sort of s you know, speak a lot. I'll give my other council members uh an opportunity to speak. But the emphasis that I wanna make here is that it does not fit into [2:13:48, 2:13:52]: The land you've planned for the future of that area. [2:13:54, 2:13:56]: Because if you allow that to come, you [2:13:57, 2:13:59]: Then you're opening up. [2:13:59, 2:14:06]: the door for other developments that will come in under that same authority. [2:14:06, 2:14:08]: And and I'm I'm opposed to that. [2:14:09, 2:14:12]: So and I may have some other comments later but [2:14:13, 2:14:15]: I'm I just want to emphasize [2:14:15, 2:14:17]: That it does not [2:14:18, 2:14:19]: Coincide. [2:14:19, 2:14:21]: With the future. [2:14:21, 2:14:23]: That those folks that live in that community [2:14:25, 2:14:28]: It does not coincide with the vision of [2:14:29, 2:14:34]: that those homeowners, those property owners have that lives in that community. [2:14:36, 2:14:38]: I cannot express that. [2:14:38, 2:14:39]: More. [2:14:40, 2:14:44]: That you have property owners, you have folks that live in that neighborhood. [2:14:45, 2:14:47]: And they do not want to see [2:14:47, 2:14:48]: Heavy. [2:14:49, 2:14:52]: industrial coming next door to where they live. [2:14:52, 2:14:56]: Mr. Thank you, Mayor. Ms. Al Zanaguaya, please. [2:14:56, 2:15:16]: Uh yes, sir. And uh, you know, this to me is the perfect example of why the ballot initiative was so important on November the eighth, because Mayor Pro Tem would be the district council member for that area and you gotta understand the person closest to that [2:15:16, 2:15:36]: Kind of understands it. He outlined exactly what the future looks like with us in terms of expanding Memorial Park. You know, it's undesirable that the transfer station is there, and that access to have heavy industrial that's certainly not the vision of uh where we're trying. [2:15:36, 2:15:56]: To go uh in this particular area. And I think this is where uh Henry County has really had the advantage over us in terms of a discussion like this would have already taken place with the district commissioner. The district commissioner would have made their thoughts known up front, it would have saved us. [2:15:56, 2:16:16]: A lot of time coming here and understanding that this is counter to the vision of where the city is trying to go. So understand that, you know, I understand we'll hear from the residents later on, but with all the monies that we spent for the park and rec um master plan and all of that, this area. [2:16:16, 2:16:24]: area is certainly not uh that would not be in keeping with what uh the direction that we're going in. [2:16:25, 2:16:30]: Ms. Cann, go ahead please. Thank I just have a question uh about legal nonconforming use. [2:16:31, 2:16:34]: Can you tell me uh you mentioned that [2:16:35, 2:16:40]: the actual particular piece of property had been transferred from business to business to business, maybe? [2:16:41, 2:16:53]: Did that happen or this has been one business the entire time? This has been on the property for for years. Uh I know the applicants can speak to the time frame, but [2:16:53, 2:17:13]: What typically happens with a a a nonconforming use, especially when we have a new code change, is whenever they come in to get a permit, a license, anything that requires city review, then we have to look at the totality of the projects and state, if we give you this permit or this license, are we continuing the nonconformance of this? [2:17:13, 2:17:25]: pri property because it's currently residential. It's zoned residential. I was about to ask. It is it is actually zoned residential. That's right. At what point? Because I remember receiving [2:17:25, 2:17:27]: [8247.5, 8248.8]: It was an issue. [2:17:29, 2:17:31]: To have tractor trailer [2:17:31, 2:17:38]: trailers parked on that particular piece of property. So at what point did it become legal non conforming use? [2:17:38, 2:17:58]: It's just non conform. That means that it can continue as is, but if anything changes'cause we won't stop a pro project it's as soon as we change the code and say you have to move off this lot and so move on. So are you saying trucks can park on a residential piece of property? No, they can't. That's been going on forever. So but what have we [2:17:58, 2:18:16]: done about this is part of that process. The applicant is coming in to say, okay, I'd like to make sure that I can meet the requirements of the current code. And this is the process by where it whereby that happened. Do you understand what I'm saying? I'm saying that trucks have been on this property illegally. [2:18:17, 2:18:18]: For how long? [2:18:19, 2:18:21]: And what has the city done about it? [2:18:22, 2:18:34]: The applicant can speak on that. This is the comprehensive land use plan amendment. Um and then the rezoning will get into a little more detail about the project itself. But this is a residential piece of property. [2:18:34, 2:18:37]: So what do we do usually when [2:18:38, 2:18:42]: And maybe I I done switched my lawyer gears, excuse me, Mayor and Council. [2:18:43, 2:18:50]: Well but attorney again is speaking at this point. At what point what do we do? [2:18:51, 2:18:55]: when um something's on a piece of property [2:18:56, 2:18:58]: And it's not allowed. [2:18:59, 2:19:00]: What do we normally do? [2:19:01, 2:19:21]: Well, we will go in and have code enforcement address it. But this particular property um came to us just as a result of this particular request. So we're dealing with it as it has come to us. Is he a new owner? No, he is not. Okay. But he is looking to get a permit, which is the trigger. He cannot get [2:19:21, 2:19:34]: permit to build on the lot and so this is a process whereby he can it is at the discretion of this council to determine whether he can do that or not. What do you what does your note say in regards to this property in the past? [2:19:35, 2:19:55]: In regards to code enforcement or anything of that nature. I remember this being an issue. I just don't quite understand. It hasn't been an issue since I've been with the city. I've been with the city about a year and a half now. And you haven't seen anything, any notes on this at all? I haven't. But we can, you know, talk with the applicant a little bit and ask him some questions about his history on the property. Okay. [2:19:55, 2:20:02]: Okay. Thank you. May Ma Mayor Ford before the applicant come up, if there's no one step stand by. Mr. Alexander. [2:20:02, 2:20:22]: I just wanna follow up on what Miss Gantt said and I think thank you for that, because in essence what has been going on is an illegal use has been taking place at this location for undetermined amount of time. So in actually uh at this point, I think what you said pretty much was that the action brought [2:20:22, 2:20:37]: forth to us for this permit has brought that to our attention. But it nevertheless it has brought it to our attention where something uh can be done and something should be done. So we will continue with this process. [2:20:37, 2:20:38]: Thank you. [2:20:38, 2:20:45]: Mm the member for Tem Guay, please. Uh and and I'm gonna just piggyback on where Ms. Gantt was going. Um [2:20:46, 2:20:47]: It appears that [2:20:48, 2:20:52]: This property has been in violation for years. [2:20:53, 2:20:55]: And and and my issue is with [2:20:56, 2:20:57]: The city [2:20:57, 2:20:58]: and code enforcement. [2:20:59, 2:21:03]: It it appears that we would not be here [2:21:03, 2:21:07]: Unless the applicant wanted to um [2:21:08, 2:21:10]: Grow, I guess in other words. [2:21:11, 2:21:15]: My issue and concern with code enforcement is that [2:21:19, 2:21:20]: This [2:21:20, 2:21:21]: Property [2:21:21, 2:21:24]: should have been cited before. [2:21:26, 2:21:30]: If there were trucks parked on his property. [2:21:30, 2:21:32]: Out of compliance. [2:21:33, 2:21:34]: Being proactive. [2:21:35, 2:21:37]: Mrs. Carter, this is the issue that I have. [2:21:38, 2:21:38]: With [2:21:39, 2:21:40]: Staff. [2:21:41, 2:21:41]: Not [2:21:41, 2:21:44]: Rad in the community. [2:21:45, 2:21:46]: To see [2:21:47, 2:21:48]: These kind of issues. [2:21:51, 2:22:05]: So I just want to piggyback on that. If I can respond uh I'm I'm sorry. I and I don't mean no ill will to to the gentleman and I I I understand he has a business and he's trying to grow his business, but please understand [2:22:05, 2:22:11]: you know, where we're coming from. But I understand you're a business owner, you're trying to grow. I get that. [2:22:12, 2:22:14]: Mayor I yeah. [2:22:21, 2:22:22]: Go ahead, Mr. Blount. [2:22:30, 2:22:31]: Just dynamics and doing it [2:22:35, 2:22:38]: Ms. Johnson, I have a question for you, please. [2:22:38, 2:22:44]: Um w when was this w when was this property purchased? [2:22:45, 2:22:46]: To be used for this use. [2:22:49, 2:22:53]: So can you come to the podium? [2:22:54, 2:23:14]: Uh my name is John Landers Jr. and I am the applicant. I'm not the current owner of the property. About approximately five years ago I rented this property and I've been developing it, straighten it up, gravel the the fix the fences, that kind of stuff, so that I could park my equipment on the property. [2:23:14, 2:23:34]: property and the uh aerial photograph shows the equipment that I have on the property right now. So you purchased the property five years ago? I have not purchased the property. All of this is because I do want to purchase the property. So I have a land agreement to buy the property from the current owners and I [2:23:34, 2:23:38]: I wanted to to move onto the property permanently. [2:23:38, 2:23:49]: But I wanted to do it legally. So and since we are not it was since we're residential and they told me that we're residential just recently when I w asked them about uh buying the property. [2:23:50, 2:23:54]: Uh what I wanted was to rezone it correctly. [2:23:54, 2:24:07]: As soon as we get it rezoning, I'm gonna purchase it. So for rezone it first. So for five years you've been doing commercial use on it for as your equipment? I've been parking my equipment. I've had two tractor trailers. [2:24:07, 2:24:16]: So that I that I keep there that's mostly out on the job sites, but occasionally they're in there. Got you. So I'm saying for five years you've been doing commercial use. [2:24:16, 2:24:22]: Yeah, property. Right. Have you gotten any permits within those five years to do commercial use on those properties? No. [2:24:23, 2:24:27]: So in five years you've been doing commercial use on a property that has not been permitted [2:24:27, 2:24:47]: And yet you still don't own the property, you just decided to to do commercial use on it. Is that what you rented the property for this use? But you did nothing with the city of Stockbridge in order that you would use it for commercial uses and and no permits or anything has been issued in five years. Not in the case. And I think that's where we kind of have a disconnect because if it had done been five years. [2:24:47, 2:24:50]: years if it was done five years and your usage [2:24:50, 2:24:58]: would have been to get permits for that usage, then you would have found out five years ago that that use wasn't permitted. And so that's not [2:24:59, 2:25:19]: Maybe there's some fault that c code enforcement hadn't done that, but I think that that's the fault of the anybody that starts a business, you wanna make sure you got permits to operate that business. My business is actually in Henry County and I have a business license in Henry County but not in Stockbridge. But anytime you do business in any city, there's a point besides the point to do business yes [2:25:19, 2:25:30]: Yes, I am trying to get in compliance. That's what my goal is here, is to get into compliance. It's to expand a use that you've been doing. [2:25:31, 2:25:37]: that you haven't been not ever been permitted to do. That's you're coming to us to get an expansion of something that you haven't been permitted to do. [2:25:38, 2:25:43]: And so I I think that I think that with that being said, that I'm I'm ready to make a decision on that. [2:25:44, 2:25:52]: All right. Uh it uh let's see here. Uh any other any questions applicant is here. Any questions for the applicant, anybody? [2:25:53, 2:25:54]: Yeah [2:25:55, 2:25:57]: Okay, so this is actually um [2:25:57, 2:26:00]: Anything else, sir, before it's actually a public hearing. [2:26:01, 2:26:15]: And so I have to open up, but then before I do that, any any other comments that you want to bring to the council? Other than the transfer station is around two thirds of the property. Mm-hmm. And they have tractor trailers going in and out every day. [2:26:15, 2:26:28]: And as far as anybody knows, you know, there's I got covers across the fence to block visual looking in. But um, you know, I'm just looking for a place to park my equipment. [2:26:29, 2:26:38]: And I wanna buy this piece of property and continue using it like I have been for the last five years and get whatever permits and whatnot that I need to have. [2:26:38, 2:26:40]: In order to do that. [2:26:41, 2:26:51]: Okay. So it's a public hearing, so I'm gonna open it up for any uh positive comments on my far left over here. Uh any any positive comments. Anybody nothing there? Anyone in the middle? [2:26:52, 2:26:58]: Far right. Okay. Any p any comments against or negative per se in this aspect on the far left? [2:26:59, 2:27:00]: In the middle. [2:27:01, 2:27:02]: Okay. Yes, ma'am. [2:27:03, 2:27:06]: Okay, come on up in uh name and address, please. [2:27:09, 2:27:12]: You have up to ten minutes, uh not that you'll take that long, I'll s imagine. [2:27:13, 2:27:21]: Mayor and Council, you know I'm a woman of few words. My name is Diane D. Miller. Uh I reside at 804 Rum Hill Court. [2:27:22, 2:27:31]: I am the owner of the Greenfront Cafe. So three years ago I had to come before you and also ask for a permission in using the building. [2:27:32, 2:27:38]: The Greenfront Cafe had been in operation for sixty years, however, it had not been zoned to use commercially. [2:27:38, 2:27:52]: I had asked for uh a variance and uh I was granted the uh change of the zoning. Uh it was consistent with how it had been used and I will tell you that I am now a very humble daughter of the area. [2:27:53, 2:28:13]: And the community is a community unlike any other that I see here in Stockbridge. We have been talking for years and years about developing this area. Even there's been talk for since I can remember about moving the transfer station. Again, making this community someplace that is um friendly for family. [2:28:13, 2:28:29]: As I'm there lovingly restoring the Greenfront Cafe, when I go by, neighbors come by, they walk the streets, they're talking, they're out with their families. I cannot see this as being rezoned to light industrial in that area. [2:28:30, 2:28:37]: Also living in the area, Martin Luther King Heritage Senior Trail, right? This is our heritage area. [2:28:37, 2:28:41]: If we are looking to an area that we are going to proudly [2:28:41, 2:28:45]: Спік аз бисторик арія. [2:28:45, 2:28:46]: Having [2:28:46, 2:28:49]: light industrial in the middle does not [2:28:50, 2:28:56]: It heavy, heavy. I I'm sorry. The recommendation from staff I thought was to grant light, right? [2:28:56, 2:28:57]: But light [2:28:58, 2:29:01]: Heavy, medium, anything industrial just is not consistent. [2:29:02, 2:29:03]: And as we continue to grow. [2:29:04, 2:29:05]: Having the [2:29:06, 2:29:21]: Trails placed in the area as we have more things that would be walkable and we're inviting I I get I get buses of people coming right now. The the Greenfront Cafe's not even open. They come because we are part of the um Department of Tourism. [2:29:22, 2:29:36]: Again, that's just not consistent with having this industrial youth. So I ask you all, uh I believe on behalf of the other community members that may be a little too shy to come up and speak, um, I ask you this is not the right thing for this community. [2:29:38, 2:29:51]: Okay. Yes. Than th yeah. Thank you. I appreciate it. I don't think there's any questions for per or not oh you do have a question for? Go right, please. So uh thank you, Miss Miller. So you have other community members here with you? [2:29:51, 2:30:03]: There are other community members here. Yes, that is correct. Well they don't they they're you said they're in two shot, could they stand? I I I cannot speak for them, but if they would care to stand, I'm sure that they would feel the same way. [2:30:03, 2:30:04]: Okay. [2:30:04, 2:30:15]: All right, thank you. Appreciate it. All right. Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate that. Thank you. Okay. Anybody else? Any uh comments against uh in the middle? Uh far right. [2:30:16, 2:30:26]: Okay. On that note the public hearing is closed. All right. And so um Mr Mr. Addison, you're back up. If there's anything additional before I we take a vote. [2:30:27, 2:30:44]: Um no sir. But well, I just wanted to reiterate that staff recommended staff recommended denial of heavy industrial and recommended light industrial because there were um light industrial uses in the vicinity and in the area. So we did deny heavy industrial, but recommended light industrial. [2:30:44, 2:30:54]: All right. Thank you. Is there a motion to Mayor Ford? Yes, sir. I like to motion to deny light [2:30:55, 2:31:13]: And heavy industrial on this property. All right, is there a second the motion? Oh okay, within uh she seconded that, but if you want to add something you gotta go back. Okay, what is it to see what the mo [2:31:14, 2:31:30]: The motion was made to deny light and heavy, but we certainly should issue some directions to staff to go back and revisit the current use, which is n which is not allowed. You wanna add that to the motion? [2:31:31, 2:31:32]: Mayor Pro Tem? [2:31:33, 2:31:44]: Well Mrs. Carter from from what I understand is with the UDC coming after the fact. M Mrs. Carter, can can you speak to that? Presidential. [2:31:44, 2:31:44]: Right. [2:31:45, 2:31:46]: I don't know. [2:31:46, 2:31:48]: 'Cause I just wanna know. [2:31:49, 2:31:52]: What we would do is is I hear some comments down on the other end. [2:31:53, 2:32:08]: We would evaluate the request uh based on whatever the formal submittal by the applicant would be uh if the council were to were to approve the comprehensive plan and or the end of the rezoning. And we would ensure that whatever use is going to [2:32:08, 2:32:15]: either remain on the property or be removed from the property meets the permitted uses under the current code. [2:32:15, 2:32:20]: So they will not be allowed to do use have a use on the property that is not allowed by the code. [2:32:21, 2:32:29]: If if I may, Mayor, if if it's zone residential, this is what we would like for it to remain as. [2:32:30, 2:32:50]: Yeah. Uh you know what what standby standby. So what what uh so your motion so what is your motion to make sure cause one make sure we got the motion right? So brother in re Miss Holliday, what do you understand the motion to be? My motion is to deny. Uh yeah, but I know, but do you have ver verbiage on that? I won't the verb remains the same? [2:32:49, 2:32:52]: We haven't changed the verbiage. [2:32:52, 2:33:09]: Right. The the motion is to deny heavy and light, but the recommendation from staff is to for recommendation for approval of light. The request from the applicant is for heavy and as I understand. [2:33:10, 2:33:25]: Okay, the m but the motions it's denied both heavy and light. The motion has been uh uh seconded by Miss Barber, all right. In that aspect and what you asked Mr. Alexander was n no was not n no it was no need to add that. He didn't want to add that to his motion. [2:33:25, 2:33:33]: It remains residential. It uh excuse me? It remains residential. Right, okay, right, exactly right. All right. Back to Mr. Blount, do you had a comment, sir? [2:33:33, 2:33:37]: Yes, uh thank you, Mayor. Y you know, the problem I have with this whole [2:33:38, 2:33:39]: with this whole process. [2:33:40, 2:33:53]: And it's not just this applicant. It's it's any use of any facility, property or anything in the city limits of any city, especially here in Stockbridge. [2:33:54, 2:33:55]: We can allow [2:33:56, 2:34:00]: People to determine the use of any properties. [2:34:01, 2:34:05]: You can't just start operating at something and that make it the use. [2:34:06, 2:34:08]: without getting a permit from the city. [2:34:09, 2:34:10]: To determine that use. [2:34:12, 2:34:27]: And so when I'm I'm I'm kind of it's kinda interesting that you all said you want to prove light when we have to address the issues at hand. The issues at hand is the use of the property that has been operating for five years. [2:34:28, 2:34:37]: that was not the use of the property in the beginning. That has not been permitted in five years. The only thing in five years that hasn't happened is we hadn't told'em to stop. [2:34:40, 2:34:40]: That's it. [2:34:41, 2:35:01]: And I'm sorry to sound Blount, but that's who I am. So the thing about it is no pun intended. But the thing about it is that we cannot allow anybody to come and operate in this city and they determine the use of any property or facility. And that's what's going on right here. The city has to tighten up [2:35:01, 2:35:04]: Do what we need to do and make sure that we're going to do that. [2:35:04, 2:35:12]: What area areas we have in the future that needs to be looked at from this we should be a lesson for all of us. [2:35:12, 2:35:15]: If people are operating without permits [2:35:15, 2:35:19]: And they're running commercial businesses. [2:35:19, 2:35:24]: We need to make sure that they are allowed or disallowed and act accordingly. [2:35:25, 2:35:40]: Okay, the motion's been made been seconded. So s hopefully no other further discussion. I don't think I just have one other where is further discussion. I'm sorry, one thing. Go right ahead, miss uh what is our future plan use for that that area? [2:35:41, 2:36:01]: What's the question? What's the future plan use of that area? Well, right now it's medium density residential, same as the transfer station. Um, we have a com uh comprehensive plan update that is gonna be starting the end of this year to look at the overall comprehensive use of all the properties throughout the city to implement. [2:36:01, 2:36:06]: And we'll bring that before you all for discussion and a vote. Well I and a and again. [2:36:07, 2:36:15]: I don't know when this happened, but this is not the first time we've discussed this property. It may not have been at a council meeting but [2:36:15, 2:36:19]: But it has been a issue, otherwise I wouldn't have said what I said. I mean [2:36:19, 2:36:20]: It alerted me to it. [2:36:21, 2:36:24]: Until I know that it's been discussed in the past. [2:36:24, 2:36:38]: in City Hall. So I don't know if code enforcement in the past have been have ever came out or whatever the case may have been, but I do recall this. And I don't know if I recall it as a solicitor and I doubt that because that was been over ten years. [2:36:38, 2:36:40]: So it had to be more recent than that. [2:36:41, 2:36:42]: In the past couple of years. [2:36:43, 2:36:44]: That it was an issue. [2:36:45, 2:37:05]: So that's all. Yeah, go ahead, Mr. Alzheimer. I just want to make sure that everybody is clear going forward. Okay, because there's current activity going on on this property right now. So in essence, so we're clear, you're clear what's going to happen going forward. [2:37:05, 2:37:06]: That use going to be eliminated? [2:37:08, 2:37:28]: Correct. It will be. Now that we are alerted of the fact that it is a use that is no longer on the property, we will have to talk with the with the owner. Uh this is the person who's looking to take over ownership and go through to see what we have on the books for the property. And it can only be utilized in the under the current zoning, especially if the [2:37:28, 2:37:48]: board uh denies the request tonight. But this right here, everybody watching and everybody sitting in the audience, this is why you have realtor work with you or you have somebody or you do this process right now. Cause every I get this call all the time where somebody c already signed or bought the property. [2:37:48, 2:38:08]: Then they come back and they find out that the use is not allowed. So it it is a good thing that the property hasn't been purchased yet because so many times people get this, they bought the property, they signed the lease already, and then they come to us and the landlord and the person say, No, I'm sorry, you already signed. [2:38:08, 2:38:13]: [9495.3, 9513.2]: Yep. Nice. All right. So I'm done. Mo mo okay. Motion's been made, been second. Come in. Yep. Yes, yes, my it'll be brief. Because I I I'm trying to hit home with with this and and and my question is to the planning and zoning board and to the community development staff. [2:38:34, 2:38:38]: knowing the master park plan [2:38:39, 2:38:42]: And your department makes a recommendation. [2:38:44, 2:38:49]: This is somewhat d that that that disturbs me right there in itself. [2:38:50, 2:38:54]: And we all have to have and see the same vision. [2:38:55, 2:39:01]: The city of Starkbridge is one vision, we have to see that, and we have to act accordingly. [2:39:01, 2:39:04]: So I'm really disturbed of this recommendation. [2:39:05, 2:39:10]: And not understanding the vision and the council has set the vision. [2:39:11, 2:39:12]: And I I d I just wanted to say that. [2:39:13, 2:39:26]: May enforcement if I may. This property the the trail system does not traverse this particular lot. This lot is less than two acres. It goes around it um on the south and on the west sides. Um just for clarification, but um [2:39:26, 2:39:29]: But the point is is noted. But if I may [2:39:29, 2:39:33]: In the park in the master park plan discussion. [2:39:35, 2:39:35]: This [2:39:36, 2:39:37]: Property. [2:39:37, 2:39:40]: was an issue and the transfer st it was an issue. [2:39:40, 2:39:42]: So it's prominent. [2:39:42, 2:39:49]: in the plan. That that's the point I'm making. It's permanent in the Master Park plan for Memorial Park. [2:39:51, 2:39:55]: That's the point that I'm making. So we have to know this. [2:39:55, 2:40:02]: And we have to act accordingly. I yield back, Mayor. Thank you. All right. Motion has been made, been second. So all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [2:40:03, 2:40:12]: C and decision. Thank you very much. Now, on that note, uh uh the next rezoning case is is is a non issue now or not? [2:40:13, 2:40:18]: It is a public hearing so we do have to still read it off and go through the public hearing process. All right. [2:40:19, 2:40:20]: Would do. [2:40:20, 2:40:40]: Hold up mister uh mr anderson stand by just a second. Rezoning case RZ two zero two two dash zero six John R. Landers Junior Applicant request a rezoning to rezone parcel S twenty seven dash zero two zero two one zero zero zero AK four four three MLK Senior Heritage Trail from [2:40:41, 2:40:46]: SR suburban residential to uh HI heavy industrial to allow for industrial development. [2:40:47, 2:40:56]: The property contains one point nine six two plus or minus acres as located in landlock thirty-six of District twelve within the city's li stopper city limits presented by Mr. Anderson. Go ahead, please. [2:40:58, 2:41:12]: Okay, um once again the applicant operates a house moving business from the property where he parks vehicles and stores business equipment outdoors. He proposed to continue the same use but to construct a small modular building on the property in compliance with UD C section three point two twenty. [2:41:13, 2:41:15]: L I districts. [2:41:16, 2:41:36]: Are located to the north and east of the property. Modular buildings are allowed both in L I and HI. Memorial Park and City Transfer Stations are located to the south of the property. Here's an aerial photo of the property once again. There's the transfer station. There's the site and the ready mixed concrete facilities across the street. [2:41:36, 2:41:37]: [9700.3, 9706.9]: Uh here's the zoning map of the site and you have Memorial Park uh located south of the property. And here's the site right here. [2:41:50, 2:42:07]: And as you can see the um there's some LI right in the area, an LI across the street. Here's the applicant's um uh business. It's currently zone SR and here's the equipment parked on the on the property right there. [2:42:12, 2:42:14]: This is pictures of his operations. [2:42:17, 2:42:23]: And here is what um Mare Protein was nothing's moved, sir. [2:42:23, 2:42:27]: Yeah, nothing's been moving, sir. Oh. I don't understand okay. [2:42:39, 2:42:42]: We did have a discussion before. We did. [2:42:43, 2:42:44]: So I think Ms. [2:42:46, 2:42:47]: And the are the okay. [2:42:51, 2:42:51]: Okay. [2:43:08, 2:43:28]: Okay, here's what Mayor Pro Tem was talking about, uh Memorial Park expansion. We did include that in our analysis. That um we did take in consideration the parks master plan. So we didn't we didn't disregard it. So we did we did take that into consideration when we did our analysis. Uh the main point about the main contention. [2:43:28, 2:43:40]: of our analysis was that there are LI uses in the area. So the proper the the rezoning wouldn't be considered a spot zoning. So we thought it was it was feasible. That's how we reached our conclusion. [2:43:43, 2:43:53]: But um staff uh recommends denial of heavy industrial and recommends a um light industrial instead. [2:44:01, 2:44:04]: Okay, council, you got any questions further questions from Mr. Anderson or all? [2:44:05, 2:44:20]: Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. Uh Mr. Anderson, you you indicated uh a recommendation of heavy and or light on the other side of the railroad and uh on the other side of Rockware. Yes, sir. Um [2:44:21, 2:44:22]: That's okay. [2:44:22, 2:44:23]: Mm-hmm. [2:44:23, 2:44:39]: I uh we we can live with that. And so I would recommend to any business owner that's uh that can hear my voice right now, if you wanna look at uh doing something on the other side of uh rock quarry. [2:44:41, 2:44:42]: We could be in favor of that. [2:44:43, 2:44:45]: But on ML King Harris's trail. [2:44:46, 2:44:53]: adjacent to memorial park and in and adjacent to those residential areas. [2:44:53, 2:44:54]: No. [2:44:56, 2:45:00]: All right, any other comments, uh question from Mr. Annison? [2:45:00, 2:45:17]: Yes ma'am, go ahead. I I beg to um Mayor Pro Tem with all I I don't agree with that either. I mean this is Rock Court Road that goes up and down to the hospital. I'm sorry. I I just kinda I I know what you're saying, but uh no, I don't want them coming thinking they can do that. [2:45:22, 2:45:22]: Oh. [2:45:23, 2:45:26]: You mean in the business part and r about where uh GFL is? [2:45:28, 2:45:38]: Yeah. Oh, it's a street a particular area. Oh, I was about to say Rum Creek. Yeah, wherever. But don't give anybody idea to come and apply for something on that road. [2:45:39, 2:45:42]: That's not a part of our future land use map. [2:45:43, 2:45:44]: Yeah, mayor. [2:45:44, 2:45:55]: Yeah, go ahead, sir. As well, under st uh that it wouldn't be allowed along Rock Quarry Road'cause that's covered by the highway overlay. Uses like that aren't allowed on Rock Quarry, Eagles Landing, Hudson Bridge, no. [2:45:57, 2:46:06]: All right, so this is a public hearing, I need to open this up. And so any any um anybody on from our far left side, any public comments for? [2:46:08, 2:46:11]: In the middle four. Far right, four. [2:46:12, 2:46:16]: Okay, anybody in the far left. [2:46:17, 2:46:18]: In the middle. [2:46:19, 2:46:26]: All right. Okay. Public hearing is now uh closed in that aspect. Uh so on that note, uh Council is there a motion. [2:46:28, 2:46:31]: Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. I I move to deny. [2:46:31, 2:46:44]: Okay. Is there a second? Second. All right. And that was uh Ms. Alexander, do you second that? Okay, good. And I would imagine there's no further conversation. All in favor of the motion, please indicate? It's an unanimous decision. Thank you very much. Okay. [2:46:47, 2:46:53]: We move on. Zony modification case uh ZM dash two zero two two dash zero one. [2:46:54, 2:46:56]: Emen Fatetti. [2:46:56, 2:47:00]: Applicant and member of a pavival pavivotal. [2:47:00, 2:47:20]: Enterprises, LLC, owner as applicant, requests a zoning modification to modify the previously approved rezoning case RZ-03 04 and its development agreement along with two amendments to allow for proposed Bush Creek Commons townhome development. The applicant requests various changes. [2:47:20, 2:47:40]: to the required amenities and site plan. The property contains 15.895 plus minus plus or minus acres with frontages on Brush Creek Court and Shields Road. It's located landlots 59 and 70 of District 12 within the Starbury City limits. Miss Anderson please. [2:47:40, 2:47:51]: Okay. The applicant requests changes in the number, type, and locations of amenities that were that were required by RZ03-04 and its development agreements. [2:47:52, 2:48:12]: The last known approved site plan was from two thousand five. The applicant justifies the requested changes due to the presence of floodplains and wetlands on the property, plus anticipated high HOA maintenance costs and impractical amenity locations. The developer must still comply with the remaining development conditions of the approved rezoning and development agreement. [2:48:11, 2:48:16]: The current UDC does not list required amenities for multifamily projects. [2:48:18, 2:48:20]: Here's the side of the project right here. [2:48:22, 2:48:24]: It's in the goal. This is uh the land use map. [2:48:29, 2:48:35]: Here's the aerial photo of the site. It's highlighted by the green, the light, the fluorescent green. [2:48:39, 2:48:50]: The property was previously rezoned on July 14, 2003, via RZ 2003 from R2 single family to RM residential multifamily townhome. [2:48:50, 2:48:55]: original original developer in style Brush Creek Court, but he did not construct any buildings. [2:48:56, 2:49:09]: The property location, property's located on both sides of Brush Creek Court, across of North Hemory Boulevard, between a Quick Strip s gas station and a Waffle House restaurant. Shields Road forms the bount the real boundary. [2:49:10, 2:49:23]: Property has eighteen point eight nine five acres, but five point four five acres are in the floodplains and wet plans. The applicant cites this as being one of the reasons why some of the required amenities cannot be installed. Other reasons include [2:49:23, 2:49:27]: Once again a high HOA maintenance cost and in practical locations. [2:49:28, 2:49:31]: Uh the applicants propose to develop forty one town homes. [2:49:33, 2:49:53]: The surrounding zoning to the north you have mobile home residential and SR suburban residential districts. To the south, you have C2 General Commercial, MFR and SR suburban residential districts. To the east you have suburban residential district, west you have C three, which is Heavy Commercial, and C2 General Commercial District. [2:49:53, 2:50:08]: Future land use designation of this property as medium density and low dense density residential. The current use, the existing Brush Creek Court was previously installed to serve the development, but no buildings have been installed. The surrounding land use, you got two mobile home parks. [2:50:09, 2:50:23]: and a metal ridge subdivision. The South Land uses our quick trip and a waffle house and an apartment community. The eastern land uses our metal ridge subdivision and an individual single family residential. And the west land uses our commercial. [2:50:27, 2:50:37]: Um the previous uh approved amenities were um let me go to the table so it can it can be easily seen. [2:50:40, 2:50:43]: Well, here's here's a proper the elevations of the proposed townhomes. [2:50:50, 2:51:10]: The list of proposed amenities changes. Uh number one, uh you want to keep the following. Keep the clubhouse, the pavilion, the gazebo, and the monument sign. And you want to remove the following: soccer field, volleyball court, walking trail, extra parking spaces to serve the amenages to be removed, three wooden benches over brush creek, three. [2:51:10, 2:51:26]: Three wooden bridges over Brush Creek, the Pudding Green, and the Bird Sanctuary. And you want to change the following, reduce the number of playgrounds from one to two. I mean from two to one by having a combined playground rather than a separate tot lot and a playground for older children. [2:51:26, 2:51:45]: And also he wanna add the following, provide a gym and workout space inside the clubhouse, provide grills and benches next to the clubhouse, extend the sidewalk to interconnect to neighborhood developed commercial spaces, and provide a sidewalk stub out for future interconnectivity to neighboring lots. [2:51:46, 2:51:47]: That's it. [2:51:47, 2:51:48]: Clear. [2:51:50, 2:51:50]: Yeah. [2:51:50, 2:52:10]: You have a question, sir. Mr. Blount? Yeah, I got a question. When uh this property in in in uh originally it was the d development agreement on there was already set forward. Was it considered floodplain? Did it become floodplain? Is it was it always been? No, it was always in the floodplain, but uh however uh [2:52:11, 2:52:28]: When you look at the development plan, it doesn't look like it was really well thought out because the way they had some amenities located within the floodplain. And after it did the due diligence, they discovered some additional environmental issues. S so so when s so when he had the l before he built and had the land surveyed. Mm-hmm. [2:52:29, 2:52:30]: Two bill. Mm-hmm. [2:52:31, 2:52:41]: Well, first let me say this, Councilmember Blount, that he's not the original property owner. He's a dish he's a he's a different property owner. Well well that's what I'm saying. When he when when when he got the property though. [2:52:42, 2:53:02]: You you if if I buy a house, I'm gonna have somebody inspect and I wanna know what the just say even by bu I buy a car. Mm-hmm. Has his car ever been in a flood or what is I mean, he he didn't know any any he didn't have any paperwork on the uh existing property of of of those problems prior to uh can I defer to him? The applicant is here. Can I let him answer that question right there? Please. [2:53:02, 2:53:02]: Okay. [2:53:07, 2:53:07]: Yes it is. [2:53:11, 2:53:12]: What is it? [2:53:15, 2:53:16]: What time is it? [2:53:16, 2:53:17]: It's uh [2:53:17, 2:53:19]: I got number eight. [2:53:19, 2:53:33]: It's it's uh number ten on the yeah, I have a question. But first of all, tell me n name and address please, gentlemen. My name's Steve Cole, I'm an attorney. I represent the uh company that's bought the property and their owners, Masood Fatimi and Iman Fatimi. [2:53:33, 2:53:39]: Okay. When when you bought the property, what knowledge did you have of all the things that are going on right now? [2:53:41, 2:54:01]: Part of our discussion with the seller was for them to come and negotiate these issues and resolve these matters directly with y'all, but they seemed both unwilling and unable to do so in good faith. And uh we felt that this project could be made into a very successful project, and we took that risk to to [2:54:01, 2:54:14]: to move forward regardless. So we were aware of the wetland issues and we had asked them to come to y'all to resolve these issues, including moving the amenities, but I'm not sure if they ever did. [2:54:15, 2:54:20]: They had many years to do so and they never it doesn't seem like they ever actually took [2:54:21, 2:54:23]: Uh any um how do you say [2:54:23, 2:54:36]: th initiative to actually do that. Uh I'm not sure why they didn't, but uh now we're here trying to turn this into a successful project for the city. So you're saying you decided that [2:54:38, 2:54:44]: You're gonna purchase this property without any resolution of of prior issues. [2:54:45, 2:54:49]: Now you're gonna divide anyway and remove all these amenities. [2:54:50, 2:55:10]: And take your chances on this end versus having the resolution put in place, resolving those issues prior to now. Is that what you're saying? Mr. Consul, that's one way to look at it. The other way to look at it was overburdened with amenities to start with back in two thousand and two when it was put in place. It's twenty years. [2:55:09, 2:55:17]: Excuse me, man. But twenty years for twenty years this project has sat there with nothing going on. And some of the comments we've had tonight. [2:55:17, 2:55:21]: We talked about revenue because actually the answer to the question from the first [2:55:21, 2:55:29]: arguments w on other issues dealt with income and cost. Cost being controlled by your budgets, income [2:55:29, 2:55:31]: being fuelled by development of property. [2:55:31, 2:55:49]: And that's exactly what the city needs. Is people come and and my clients have a history of buying property that's undeveloped and turning them into successes. Austin Park is a subdivision they built within the last three years in the city of Stockbridge. Eighty one lots and they've built every one and everyone sold. [2:55:49, 2:55:58]: So every indication is that this can be turned into a a successful project. Granted, it is overburdened with um [2:55:58, 2:56:01]: wetlands and other stuff. But they their their plan [2:56:02, 2:56:03]: Doesn't want to build in the wetlands. [2:56:04, 2:56:08]: And it's only forty one lots, there's no reason to have ten amenities. [2:56:08, 2:56:11]: for forty one units with things like a soccer field and [2:56:12, 2:56:13]: Bird sanctuaries. [2:56:14, 2:56:18]: When again I'll go back to it, Austin Park has two has a clubhouse and a and a [2:56:19, 2:56:32]: Uh Austin Park has a playground, green space, and uh grills with benches with parking to share. But uh for eighty one houses. The the current UDC [2:56:32, 2:56:36]: реquires half the number of amenities we're proposing. [2:56:37, 2:56:37]: Not [2:56:38, 2:56:43]: The the eleven amenities that are currently imposed on forty one town homes. [2:56:44, 2:56:46]: Із на [2:56:46, 2:56:52]: reasonable and if we were to apply for zoning today it would not be imposed. [2:56:54, 2:57:06]: I mean I I I get that what what we require for as in our UDC for as amenages. I'm just just one one other looking at how what's the acreage and what what how much acres is considered wetland, uh Ms. Hams? [2:57:10, 2:57:11]: It's considered the web. [2:57:16, 2:57:19]: Over five acres of the eighteen acres is is in the wetland. [2:57:19, 2:57:23]: So you're gonna have thirteen acres roughly plus buildable. [2:57:25, 2:57:29]: Yes, sir. That's correct. Yeah. How many units you're trying to put in thirteen [2:57:29, 2:57:30]: Forty one units. [2:57:31, 2:57:47]: With what amenities? With the I mean with the with the suggested amenities. So you're gonna be you're gonna put forty one units in in in the thirteen plus acres with the three amenities. And that's wiping everything else out. [2:57:47, 2:58:07]: We we are proposing to install the clubhouse bit which is thirteen hundred square feet uh with parking and in within the clubhouse it has uh equipment for gym and also for kitchen. And then besides that we have a pavilion of fifteen by twenty and the [2:58:07, 2:58:27]: Other side of the street across from the clubhouse with benches and grills for enjoyment of the homeowners. And besides that, we have a playground of two age groups within one playground. And we have 3,000 square feet of open space for. [2:58:27, 2:58:29]: Enjoyment of the people for [2:58:30, 2:58:50]: And up besides we have a gazebo for children's school buses and monument in front of the subdivision for uh uh the name of the subdivision. Okay. This the reason this subdivision has been sitting over sixteen years and nobody's approaching to do [2:58:50, 2:59:03]: anything about it is is this issue of too many amenities, too costly to build, and it's very high maintenance for homeowners to be able to handle it. [2:59:05, 2:59:23]: There are just a soccer field and a volleyball court and uh uh playgrounds on the far right side of the subdivision on low grounds which are all floodplains and very n not accessible at all for homeowners. [2:59:24, 2:59:44]: You go to a parking lot of a grocery store, you park right next to the very close to the door of the uh grocery store so be able to access that grocery store. Here they are parked everything on the side of the subdivision, which has you have to actually walk a twenty feet drop. [2:59:44, 2:59:45]: to that [2:59:46, 2:59:48]: And maintain it. [2:59:50, 2:59:52]: It's just not reasonable for forty one homes. [2:59:53, 2:59:57]: To be able to maintain and pay for it. [2:59:58, 3:00:14]: It's just not feasible. These are m probably entry first time buyers or second time buyers and they cannot pay two thousand dollars per year maintenance cost of the uh amenities. It's just not feasible. Then having this development already started though? [3:00:15, 3:00:19]: Development is completed. We are just in the phase of going to start building the homes. [3:00:20, 3:00:40]: The townhomes. Yeah, but'cause I remember so so in the midst of all this, what is what is the total amount of homes gonna be out back? Forty one homes. Forty one townhomes, attached townhomes. But that's what I'm saying. Having this uh you haven't started this development yet? Is that what you're saying? The infrastructure is completed hundred percent. [3:00:40, 3:00:43]: But the homes have not been started to be built on. [3:00:45, 3:00:45]: No buildings. [3:00:48, 3:01:08]: I'm just trying to orientate myself. Is this the one like between with the with the Waffle House on the quick trip and you go straight back? Yes. So that's gonna be the that light gonna be the exit and entrance right there. Cause you're gonna go down to a CODIS Act. Yes. And when you talk about going east on the property, which is the top part, that's [3:01:08, 3:01:25]: the part where the wetland is gonna be that's where the part where the wet cola sac is past the cola sac way down below is where the uh amenities suggested to be take it no I see what amenity is I'm saying where's the uh on this where's the wetlands located? Is it located on the [3:01:26, 3:01:29]: On the far back side of it. [3:01:30, 3:01:33]: And I'm wanting to ask because I I'm trying to figure something out here. Yes. [3:01:35, 3:01:37]: It's oddly bad. [3:01:39, 3:01:41]: Which is it ain't even close. [3:01:42, 3:01:43]: No, but fifteen eighty. [3:01:44, 3:01:45]: Where are the wheeling on it? [3:01:45, 3:01:52]: Yeah, I think we had a good map. [3:01:59, 3:02:00]: So can you see that? [3:02:02, 3:02:09]: That the green is uh and the pink are the f flood zones and wetlands. The [3:02:10, 3:02:13]: So it's basically indicating that [3:02:14, 3:02:34]: It's it's indicating that the amenities as originally drawn are lying in the flood zones, which is a general no-no for any type of construction. It leads to higher maintenance costs. Uh part of the reason those are flood zones is because they're they happen to be a valley. [3:02:33, 3:02:53]: So not only would they be s in the flood zone, but they'd be surrounded by tall trees that were not allowed to be to cut down. So if you can imagine maintaining a soccer field in a volleyball court with nothing but tall trees around it, it it's and f potential flooding every so many years. [3:02:53, 3:03:13]: It's not reasonable. Unfortunately, that doesn't lend very much space for where else to put these amenities. Given the site restrictions, there is a part of what you're not seeing is that there is a large section. [3:03:13, 3:03:15]: I don't know if you can. [3:03:15, 3:03:35]: See my mouse circling right here. That's a detention pond that services a large portion of the commercial development in front, as well as the townhome. So on top of the five acres, that would be flood zone, and you'll have some acreage over here, which we can't access. [3:03:35, 3:03:42]: And then you'll have more acreage that's part of the detention pond facilities that are also non developable. [3:03:43, 3:03:45]: Let me um let me just ask this question. [3:03:45, 3:03:47]: When you're coming into that property [3:03:48, 3:03:56]: On the Waffle House side, is that one lane and then there's two lanes on the other side? Is that the way it is or is two lanes on both sides? [3:03:56, 3:04:14]: Um so as you enter this is the Waffle House on the right. Oh there's it's a two lane access, yes. In in into the subdivision. Into the subdivision, yes. That's a that's a standard I think what, twenty-six foot width or twenty-four foot width road? Twenty-six maybe? [3:04:14, 3:04:29]: Twenty four. Twenty-four. Yeah. It's a two-lane two lane road. And as drawn on the paperwork, they're gonna be all rear entry garages and the HOA will be in charge of maintaining those access alleyways. [3:04:30, 3:04:35]: Um that helps provide a nice front for all the homes. Okay. [3:04:36, 3:04:56]: I'm through. Okay, good. Uh uh Mr. Azahn, go ahead, please. What what I'm keying on is this map and uh we can read. Okay. The pink areas are a five hundred year flood, which is a uh just a incredible amount of water. Um the green area is a hundred year flood uh around. [3:04:56, 3:05:00]: round where you're showing down most of the area. Those are exceptional [3:05:01, 3:05:21]: you know rains that may happen uh through acts of nature, but that's not to be expected uh to come forth. There's something that may or may not happen. And so that's why they call it a hundred year flood. It's not something that's gonna be routine or expected to be something that would occur uh with frequency like we [3:05:21, 3:05:25]: We got at the dog park. This that's what the map says, correct? [3:05:25, 3:05:45]: Yes, it does not show fifty year or ten year floods. That being said, they do receive frequent inundations of water and the if if we were to build structures that would be illegal. The point of a hundred-year flood zone is to not encourage [3:05:45, 3:05:55]: [11155.4, 11159.1]: It would increase the HOA's cost. [3:05:59, 3:06:07]: Well, everyone's costs would be increased. And that but at the same time, we're not recommending to to [3:06:08, 3:06:09]: The current UDC [3:06:10, 3:06:14]: Would only require, I believe, two amenities plus a green space. [3:06:15, 3:06:28]: We have chosen a clubhouse, a pavilion, and a combined playground that's m more, plus we're choosing the m the better amenities, amenities people will use. [3:06:29, 3:06:32]: The You don't think people use the walking trail? [3:06:33, 3:06:45]: I think that it would be very costly to have insurance on three bridges that go through a mature forest. They're there it's literally going through a wetland. [3:06:48, 3:06:53]: Excuse me, I apologize. [3:06:53, 3:07:04]: Okay. Uh in terms of uh what we're looking at here, so uh let me ask staff. So was Austin Park and this location both loan b owned by the same landowner? [3:07:04, 3:07:10]: Austin Park, uh I'm not sure, probably but before my time, um uh [3:07:10, 3:07:17]: So you built Austin. Who did you did you buy Austin part from the same people you buy this one from? So [3:07:17, 3:07:31]: We purchased Austin Bar from different people and and not from the same people. Right. But what I'm saying is that when these developments were done, as you say, Austin Park is develop is uh amenities poor. [3:07:31, 3:07:35]: because it did not get the amenities. It would seem to me that [3:07:35, 3:07:39]: Whoever did this development probably did both of them at the same time. [3:07:40, 3:07:41]: And when they were doing so [3:07:42, 3:07:58]: that they anticipated that these projects would probably be connected and that you would have amenities that both of these communities could use, not just one. So because Austin Park doesn't have basically any amenities. Is that correct, Stan? What what amenities does Austin Park have? [3:07:58, 3:07:59]: Uh [3:08:00, 3:08:06]: I'm not sure Councilman uh Alexander. We build that subdivision. He can ask it at like three. [3:08:07, 3:08:27]: It was two different developers. Um and I don't see how the two neighborhoods would have been proposed to share amenities, being that it was two different developers and these are private amenities. So um the the code does not specify very carefully under one hundred h units or actually [3:08:27, 3:08:35]: The question was how many amenities does Austin Park have? [3:08:36, 3:08:39]: If you consider an open space an amenity, it would be three. [3:08:40, 3:08:41]: Okay. [3:08:41, 3:09:01]: There's benches and grills, there's an open space and there's a combined playground for multiple ages. Okay, so there's a playground and then there's a green space and then there's some benches. So basically they don't have any amenities to me, in what I would go by in terms of what would be required. They don't have any amenities. So [3:09:01, 3:09:21]: So I'm looking at it through my rear room window saying whoever did these two developments probably had something in line where they might have had these two neighborhoods working together. Because it makes sense that they're so close together that you would put the amenities in this neighborhood and that you would allow the residents to use both of these. [3:09:21, 3:09:41]: Locations together. It just co-happens that you where you came along and you're gonna develop them separately. But I I have a problem with anybody coming in here telling us to make the development cheaper and to eliminate the amenities that were included in it. This is a superior development. [3:09:41, 3:10:01]: Development with all of these amenities in it, which is the walking trail, the volleyball court, all of those things are awesome. That'll be an amazing community for somebody to live in. And it certainly would be again where if you were able to spread those costs between Austin Park and [3:10:01, 3:10:21]: this particular neighborhood, then it certainly would be able to uh factor in because the people at Austin Park don't have any amenities to access. Maybe they would have choose to, who knows. But the main point that I'm trying to make here is that we spent$20 million to develop a trail system in this city. [3:10:21, 3:10:41]: And you're coming in here to ask us to eliminate a trail system. You're coming in here to ask us to eliminate amenities in a the in a in a in a neighborhood where amenities help increase the value of the community. So my last question would be how much what is the pro target price point and the square footage on [3:10:41, 3:10:42]: The homes. [3:10:45, 3:11:02]: The screw with the uh digits of the home, depending uh where we finish the base most of these uh last probably gonna have some basements. Mm-hmm. Whether we finish or not somewhere from two thousand to twenty three, maybe twenty five hundred square feet. But the average about twenty one, twenty two hundred square feet. [3:11:03, 3:11:23]: Okay, and then price point all it gets dictated by the market. Uh six months ago I thought that we can sell around four hundred, but I don't think we can do that anymore. Probably somewhere between three hundred to four hundred. And questioning uh I mean uh thinking about what you just said, combining two different [3:11:23, 3:11:43]: Totally different two subdivisions. Uh the homeowners using each other's amenities. That's the first myth for me to come across with. And it required the two HOAs get together, create bylaws, and on and on and on. It's just not reasonable charges. [3:11:43, 3:12:03]: Each other for usage, who uses this and the other. It's just not reasonable. But the uh main thing is this. Okay, let's let's assume that we uh agree to incur the cost to produce the volleyball court, the uh soccer field in the floodplain, and the [3:12:03, 3:12:12]: playground is in the flood uh also is in the uh flood plain. Let's assume that we agree cost on all apart is not an issue. [3:12:13, 3:12:15]: HOA cannot sustain it. [3:12:17, 3:12:22]: They will easily give it up and leave it for go to trash. [3:12:22, 3:12:42]: No question asked. Even the amenities we are proposing for forty one homes is very expensive to maintain. Insurance, maintenance, upkeep, and taxes. We have come across with amenities we are proposing they have to pay somewhere around eight hundred to thousand dollars per year with the ones we are proposing. [3:12:42, 3:12:43]: [11563.5, 11571.7]: But the bonds in are in the books, it could be about twenty to twenty-five hundred dollars a year. They cannot homeowner forty-one homes. [3:12:52, 3:12:53]: If it was hundred homes. [3:12:54, 3:12:55]: I would say maybe. [3:12:55, 3:13:15]: It was even subdivisions over hundreds, two hundred and fifty homes, they don't have even four amenities. This is just excessive burden and that this is one of the reasons this uh neighborhood has been just sitting there for sixteen years and nobody wants to touch it. Mm-hmm. Because of these issues. I can see that. [3:13:15, 3:13:35]: I agree. Ms. Cannon, you can't. So I just you just happened to myself and the mayor live in a subdivision that um shares an HOA community thing. They come over to us Mandorly, which is right next door to us. They actually share in our amenities. Um is that correct, Ms. [3:13:35, 3:13:41]: Yeah. Okay. So we actually have that, just so you know. Um but [3:13:41, 3:13:53]: This is fifteen acres and there are laws about being uh near flood areas that's marked flood areas. I'm very I I get it. Um [3:13:54, 3:14:03]: The retention pond. Who will be responsible for the retention pond once you guys build everything and leave? Number one. Number two, um [3:14:04, 3:14:16]: It's fifteen acres. So I can see reducing uh you know, a bird watching sanctuary and some of those other uh some things that uh that I I do believe there's a lot [3:14:17, 3:14:18]: Um [3:14:20, 3:14:22]: I do believe that [3:14:22, 3:14:25]: that in two thousand three whoever [3:14:25, 3:14:26]: develop this plan [3:14:27, 3:14:30]: It wasn't really actually reasonable within that time frame. [3:14:30, 3:14:34]: And I'm shocked that you gave me a price of three or four hundred thousand. [3:14:34, 3:14:36]: For a town home near the [3:14:36, 3:14:37]: The QT. [3:14:38, 3:14:57]: An apartment complex and a waffle house and some uh trailer parks in the back. I'm really shocked that you gave me that number. Is it high or too low? Well I don't wanna say. I'm just shocked that you gave me that number. What why? Right? I'm just wondering what anything you call. And I my question is [3:14:58, 3:15:02]: My question is we have you saying forty one homes. [3:15:03, 3:15:03]: We do [3:15:04, 3:15:12]: Um, you know, I I would love to see an attachment to the trail or extended uh a a larger, what is it, ten feet sidewalks? [3:15:12, 3:15:20]: Uh is that what we mean? Along along the yes. The ten feet sidewalks would be within reason, right? Connecting um [3:15:20, 3:15:22]: Out to the main road there? [3:15:22, 3:15:23]: Um [3:15:24, 3:15:26]: And I wouldn't be [3:15:26, 3:15:35]: Uh oh and my my other question would be retention pond and then my other question is with the owners, are the owners gonna be required to have flood hazard insurance? [3:15:36, 3:15:56]: Do you know that or not? Yeah, because they're outside of the flood zones, I don't believe they would require extra insurance. That would be if their structures were lying within flood zones. Um the f as for the detention pond, there's already a reciprocal agreement. The original developer who [3:15:56, 3:16:04]: Had uh actually built the commercial areas out in front, had set in place an agreement between the commercial properties. [3:16:05, 3:16:25]: as well as this property that the HOA would technically be responsible for the maintenance, however the cost would be shared depending on the amount of use. So each of those commercial properties would be required to chip in for that maintenance. I think another thing to consider is that we [3:16:24, 3:16:44]: We do have the access roads going around all of the properties, and it does follow along Brush Creek there, and that access road functions as a walking path, including for dogs or whoever. They'll have the homes on one side and the creek and the forests. [3:16:44, 3:16:51]: Forest on the other side. And so they can use that as a walking trail. It's not quite [3:16:52, 3:17:12]: It's not quite as amazing of course as wandering straight through a forest, but there are inherent challenges with maintaining forty one townhomes, maintaining a walking trail that goes through flood zones, wetlands, and mature forests that is it just it [3:17:12, 3:17:32]: Just it's above and beyond what I would think an HOA of this size should be required to handle. Well it would be very expensive to handle all those amenities plus some. And I uh I'm looking at it, I don't know whether or not it would it would not require to be for uh a homeowner to have home blood house. [3:17:32, 3:17:35]: has an insurance or not. I'm just gonna be honest with you. [3:17:35, 3:17:38]: Looking at it, um attorney, uh what do you think? [3:17:39, 3:17:45]: That would be a lender requirement typically. It would be a requirement. If it's in a flood zone typically they require flood insurance. If it's not, they don't. [3:17:45, 3:18:01]: Right. And it's pretty close there. I mean it's fifteen eighty. You are you aren't. And you could be in a flood zone by lateral lines or by vertical lines. Okay. You can be above a flood zone and still be sitting in a flood zone. [3:18:02, 3:18:06]: Okay. And um in regard uh what did you say? [3:18:09, 3:18:18]: Okay. All right. And in regards to um I see those the first town homes there. I my other concern would be [3:18:18, 3:18:24]: I don't know about combining a playground. I kinda like the idea of having two playgrounds, one for the [3:18:24, 3:18:28]: closer to one area and one closer to the back end of the of the [3:18:28, 3:18:31]: Um community. [3:18:31, 3:18:39]: I'm sorry. No, go go ahead with your colour. Other than that, um, you know, I I understand reducing some of the amenities. Um [3:18:39, 3:18:51]: But y again you said between three and four hundred thousand, I'm a I I ex that's what I'm gonna expect that property to be worth. I expect it. Well that uh [3:18:53, 3:19:13]: Everything depends on the economy. Again, uh six months ago, anything anybody built, any product they put on got sold. We were that time we thought that we can uh do around four hundred. And given the fact that we uh that also depends, as you mentioned, it's the score of footage. [3:19:13, 3:19:33]: and what you put inside the house, uh, in terms of bells and whistles. So uh six months from now that we're gonna actually probably building maybe three months from now if everything goes well, everybody talking about recession. But so we have to kind of consider what the market can absorb [3:19:33, 3:19:39]: at that time. But uh I believe we would be within three to four hundred thousand range. [3:19:40, 3:19:41]: Yeah. [3:19:41, 3:19:42]: Okay. Go ahead, Mr. Blount. [3:19:43, 3:19:52]: Um yeah, I'm I mean I'm I'm looking at this pri I mean y you you're just talking about forty one units. Yeah. You know, and in our um [3:19:54, 3:20:00]: In our requirements, I think is it that they we have a list and they're required to do three. [3:20:01, 3:20:07]: And those specifics on those three, we leave that lead way to the builder, pretty much, right? [3:20:07, 3:20:27]: Yes, sir. But technically in the MFR district, uh UDC doesn't specify amenities for multifamily. However, in subdivisions, it it it it expresses it. Yeah. So MFR you really don't have to do it. Yeah, and you're talking only forty-one units. And if the elevation is higher than the flip, [3:20:27, 3:20:30]: Planes won't even play a role in there and [3:20:30, 3:20:39]: You got property that's been empty from in my opinion, when you guys say I don't know, sixteen years? Over sixteen years. Yeah, so. Two thousand three started. [3:20:40, 3:20:41]: Sound like a good deal to me. [3:20:42, 3:21:02]: Any other questions? Yeah. Go right, please. The city actually has in our twenty million dollar trail plan, we actually have trails along Brush Street. So this would actually be at some point hopefully tying into those trails. That's why the walking pail is so important because our trail network doesn't [3:21:02, 3:21:22]: include Brush Creek Trail if you look at the$20 million that was actually approved. So I'm looking at that and I know what you're saying. I mean we have Reeves Creek Trail that's built some partially it's in a floodplain. You know I mean sometimes that's just how it is. If you're building trails, that's some that's gonna be the result sometime. [3:21:22, 3:21:42]: So I certainly would not like to see the trail uh eliminated from the project uh because of the money and the investment and the commitment that we have made uh to that area. So at this point, you're proposing what tr what what what is it that you're committed to that you're coming in here today, you're [3:21:42, 3:21:46]: trying to eliminate pretty much everything except three? That's what you're trying to do? [3:21:47, 3:22:03]: We are proposing the clubhouse, which as I mentioned earlier, thirteen hundred squ square feet of clubhouse with uh a few parking spaces, which next to it is going to be the centralized uh mailboxes. [3:22:04, 3:22:24]: uh with a handicapped. And then across street we're gonna have a pavilion, uh fifteen by twenty. Next to it is going to be uh benches and grills for enjoyment of the community. And then next to that's going to be in front of [3:22:24, 3:22:40]: In order to be able to accomplish to have single playground for two age groups. And then next to that we're gonna have 3,000 square feet of open space solid area. [3:22:41, 3:22:52]: And then next to that's going to be the gazebo for the school bus. And then if next to that, in front of subdivision, we're gonna have the m ground-based monument for the name of the subdivision. [3:22:53, 3:23:13]: That by itself is a lot of stuff to take care of and maintain. I think homeowners is all going to be in the walking distance of their homes. They don't have to go down the hill or up the hill in the flood or dirt and this and the other. And as as to walking trail, as uh Imon mentioned, these homes [3:23:13, 3:23:33]: Homes are rear entry, rear rear loaded. Basically, the garages are in the back of the homes. We're gonna install the access road past and beyond the current roadways going to the cul-de-sac, uh, from one side to the other side, entering from one side going to the other. [3:23:33, 3:23:53]: But currently it's about I think 14 feet wide. It could serve as a walking turf. People can just walk underneath the trees on the other side of the st uh access road. It's gonna be a huge loop, just people walking around underneath the trees. And not in addition to that, creating another one just uh [3:23:53, 3:24:13]: Fo uh per original uh agreement there's a 1400 square uh feet of walking trail that has crossed the creek a couple times. Liability issues, again going through the other uh uh floodplain areas, a lot of trees, maintenance, cleanup, insurance. [3:24:13, 3:24:29]: insurance is just not feasible in our opinions. And we beg the board to consider this for the good of the city and ours, to get this thing built to generate income for city and another happy community like Austin Park. [3:24:29, 3:24:49]: So if you eliminated all three of the bridges, how would they get back? I mean, can they across at all? We are proposing not to build it. We're basically having these other amenities instead of those three, four that we're uh eliminating. And they're all again uh very accessible from the walking distance. [3:24:49, 3:25:01]: from main drag of the subdivision. And they already have sidewalks on both sides. And we're connecting those sidewalks to the commercial buildings in front of the subdivision. [3:25:01, 3:25:17]: That all by itself is plenty. Uh this is not just that we are trying to save cost on building it. Mostly we're looking in the lens of homeowners in the future that they're gonna have to carry the burden. That's the main focus. [3:25:18, 3:25:27]: If you guys decide to turn us down, we'll build it, it's gonna go down the trash. No no problem for us. We just came over here to create something for the HOA. [3:25:28, 3:25:31]: to be able to handle it, maintain it, pay for it. [3:25:32, 3:25:33]: That's the main thing. [3:25:33, 3:25:38]: So in other words, whether whatever we do, you will still be able to build it is with what you're saying. [3:25:39, 3:25:44]: Um I I'm saying No matter what decision we'll make, you will still be able to build it. Is that what you're saying? [3:25:44, 3:26:04]: We'll consider the consequences after this. Mayor. It's just it's I'm gonna you done the standard. No, I wanna go back over I wanna verify what he just said. Stand by so the you said the clubhouse is still going to be included, correct? Exactly. The covered pavilion with the fireplace, is that still included that's in part of the [3:26:04, 3:26:13]: Clubhouse? We were proposing grills and benches instead of a fireplace. We figured a grill is a little more usable. Uh fireplace. I mean [3:26:13, 3:26:25]: I kinda like the covered fireplace. So okay, uh okay. And then uh the solid sports area you said you were including that too. Say again. The solid sports area is included. [3:26:26, 3:26:39]: Yeah, three thousand square feet as drawn on the map there, yes. It's not quite as big as the soccer field originally proposed, but it soccer field didn't fit in the land available outside of the flood areas. [3:26:39, 3:26:42]: Okay, so but pretty much you're talking about eliminating [3:26:42, 3:26:44]: The pudding green. [3:26:44, 3:26:47]: The tennis courts with the basketball goals. [3:26:47, 3:27:02]: Um technically there was an amendment that the walking drills. The the there was an amendment that changed the tennis court to a soccer field. Um but there were some lost site development plans that we could not originate. [3:27:04, 3:27:04]: Okay. [3:27:05, 3:27:10]: No, I was telling this it's some book or someone's um Mayor. [3:27:10, 3:27:18]: Clubhouse only having five parking spaces. Is that what what is the recommendation from the city? [3:27:21, 3:27:32]: See it so look at the second column on your page. I'm thinking it's uh there was extra parking spaces dedicated parking space. [3:27:37, 3:27:38]: [12460.4, 12461.3]: And then we [3:27:41, 3:27:44]: Item number two, where there's a extra parking in. [3:27:48, 3:27:51]: Basically warm pool uh depending on the seats. [3:27:55, 3:27:59]: Okay. [3:28:02, 3:28:03]: One per what? [3:28:03, 3:28:06]: four fixed seats, depending on the number of seats. [3:28:09, 3:28:22]: Depending on the number of seats inside of the clubhouse. Well well, actually um pin if we categorize it as a club, so it would be five per one thousand square feet. So he would need to do um six [3:28:25, 3:28:45]: So um whatever is is being proposed it it will meet the code. So this is preliminary, but whatever comes informally before um our we have a technical review committee that reviews for all building, civil engineering, planning and zoning, fire, life safety, um and [3:28:45, 3:29:04]: building and we will make sure that of course all the other requirements are met as well as the additional um the conditions of the development agreement. And I think you wanna need us to speak into the record what Right. Okay, what they're asking for. And that was a list that just went away. [3:29:04, 3:29:07]: Yes, it's it's happening. So uh so the the proposed [3:29:08, 3:29:14]: Um items to keep are the clubhouse, which is thirteen hundred square feet. [3:29:14, 3:29:28]: the pavilion, the gazebo, and the monument sign. They're requesting to remove the soccer field, the volleyball court, the walking trail, extra parking spaces to serve the amenities. [3:29:29, 3:29:32]: Three wooden bridges over Brush Creek. [3:29:32, 3:29:34]: Putting Green and Bird Sanctuary. [3:29:35, 3:29:55]: Well what he said was that there was gonna be three thousand sided green spaces. That's not included here, but that well that's what was stated, right? But what is staff recommendation? I believe all neighborhoods are required to have uh an open space. So so what is staff's recommendation? So staff [3:29:55, 3:30:10]: I'm gonna continue to read this into the record for the city clerk if you all don't mind. Um they're looking to change or reduce the number of playgrounds from two to one by having a combined playground rather than a separate tot lot. [3:30:10, 3:30:12]: And uh playground for older children. [3:30:13, 3:30:14]: And they will provide the following [3:30:15, 3:30:18]: A gym and workout space inside the clubhouse. [3:30:18, 3:30:30]: grills and benches next to the clubhouse, extend the sidewalks to in to interconnect to the neighborhood, developed commercial spaces, and provide a sidewalk stub out for future interconnective [3:30:33, 3:30:53]: For me, I would have to have the walking trails. I mean, that's what we're doing in terms of the city and where we're trying to go. I would certainly have to have the walking trails. I could see the pudding green uh being eliminated in the volleyball court uh being eliminated. Um the bird sanctuary feeder. [3:30:53, 3:31:05]: birdhouses, benches, I could see that'll be eliminated. So that would be three, but I certainly would like to see uh the walking trails included in any neighborhood that we got going forward. [3:31:06, 3:31:07]: Okay. [3:31:07, 3:31:15]: So the sidewalk is what, four to five feet? Typically? It's five. Five feet and the walking trail would at least be eight feet, eight to ten. [3:31:15, 3:31:26]: Usually about eight feet, yes. Right. So w would it be much of a problem to extend it three additional feet? Do you still what you gotta identify as a sidewalk so that'd be p it can be turned into a trail right there, I would imagine. [3:31:26, 3:31:39]: The sidewalks have already been installed as a result. And and the streets have already been installed um as a result of the previous Oh, there's no sidewalks. So the walking trails, I guess we have to determine where those can be if you guys want to speak on that. [3:31:41, 3:32:01]: The standard sidewalks within the subdivision within the which is in the books is for I think four feet right now. So we have agreed to extend that to the front of the subdivision. Uh eight B. So I don't just foresee if T be widening it, what could that would uh [3:32:01, 3:32:19]: It's uh plus if you bring it in front of the subdivision being ten feet, bring it in front of the homes four feet, which seems to be more reasonable because the setbacks only ten feet from the property line, it makes it very difficult to have any wider sidewalk. [3:32:19, 3:32:26]: We we need a dedicated uh walking trail. That's that's what I'd like to see. A dedicated walking trail. Some of this other stuff might be [3:32:27, 3:32:36]: If you if you see the access roads that encompass the the town homes, those function as a walking trail. They they border the forested area and the creek. [3:32:37, 3:32:41]: And then hopefully if people maintain their homes, having the homes on one side will still be [3:32:41, 3:32:47]: Just beautiful and it won't require any extra maintenance on the homeowners. [3:32:47, 3:32:50]: But the homeowners are united. Satwall. [3:32:51, 3:33:00]: No. The the walking trail is already twenty foot wide. It's is now technically there would be traffic on that road, but these are these are [3:33:00, 3:33:03]: slow going roads, people need to pay attention. [3:33:03, 3:33:05]: But uh [3:33:06, 3:33:10]: The access road already encompasses the neighborhood and follows along the creek. [3:33:10, 3:33:11]: Mm-hmm. [3:33:12, 3:33:32]: You wanna show it? That heavily uh shaded areas behind the town homes. That's what he's referring to, which is access road behind the homes, which is right next m the ones on the left on the upper side. [3:33:32, 3:33:52]: side next they're next to the creek, they can actually see the creek. The ones on the other side is just pretty much entire area wooded and heavily uh a lot of trees. So what uh Iman is mentioning is the fact that they can use that uh access road all around behind the buildings as [3:33:52, 3:34:12]: Uh walking trail without they're still maintaining it without actually uh paying additional maintenance costs to have the walking trail. I'm okay with it. All right. Yeah, go ahead please. Yeah, I'm I'm looking at you talking about forty one homes. That's why they don't party. [3:34:12, 3:34:32]: Um we we're talking 41 homes and and and uh I like the I like that you guys are building the um garages on the back side of the homes because usually when you see this type of development, they're they're on the front side. Yes. And I like the access road behind there. You guys are gonna build it. [3:34:32, 3:34:52]: The higher where it won't be in the Flood Plains area. You you've chosen your amenities, and I have to say it's only 41 townhomes and they are all for sale and there'll be homeowners in them. So um Mayor, I like to go ahead and public hearing, sir. Oh, just public hearing? Public hearing. Oh, okay. So I on that note, the note of the question as far as a public hearing. [3:34:52, 3:35:03]: I'd like to open it up to the public. And any questions, I mean any c questions or concerns in favor on my left over here? You can have a speaker. Any in the middle? On the right hand side. [3:35:05, 3:35:08]: I'm sorry. They they have some comments? [3:35:09, 3:35:11]: This is in favor now. [3:35:12, 3:35:18]: This is in favor. Well come on up. Okay, I didn't realize it. Come on up. Um your name and um [3:35:18, 3:35:25]: Address please. Uh Scott Doohart, uh six thirty two Spray Berry. Scott Doohart. [3:35:27, 3:35:31]: Uh I'm at six thirty two, Sprayberry Drive. [3:35:33, 3:35:53]: Uh I do live in Austin Park. Uh so I got a lot. I'm I'm on the HOA, so I got a lot of uh things to say. Well, I don't have a lot, but I can just jot it. Uh as he previously mentioned, five months after year, uh you really can't use the park, the volleyball court, soft soccer field, or walking trail. Uh we currently have an issue at the parks with kids. [3:35:53, 3:36:13]: Kids having sex, homeless people hanging out, uh, and we just had to pay 4K for a fence and we're paying another 5k for security. So I wouldn't recommend two parks personally. Uh having all these amenities brings problems and from the outside, as he mentioned, the homeowner secures all the cost of maintaining the property. So [3:36:13, 3:36:13]: The uh [3:36:15, 3:36:35]: Trailer Park behind us, we find people up there hanging out. Uh it's nice that he's building a school bus hangout for the kids because right now we have complaints about kids just hanging out in everyone's yard. So I'm in vote of him reducing amenities and I'm not agreement of trying to come together. It's too many personalities, too many different homeowners. [3:36:35, 3:36:45]: associations mentally is just a lot. But I do agree with what he's got, what he's doing currently. And Councilman, you said 300,000 to 400,000. [3:36:45, 3:37:05]: Inflation right now. We paid 230 something, 240 something. It's just the time we're living in. If he was to offer me a home right now for three hundred fifty thousand dollars, brand new bill in this area, I would still buy it. That's all. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate your time and effort. All right. So that was that was comment four. Any more? Four in the middle. Uh four in the far. [3:37:05, 3:37:12]: Uh right. Okay. Any comments against in the far left. Against in the middle? [3:37:13, 3:37:20]: Uh ma'am, you wanted to make a a a comment against I guess this? Okay. Name and uh name and uh address please. [3:37:21, 3:37:33]: Yes. Good evening. My name is uh Darlene Brewster Clark. That's my husband, Freddie Clark, and we are adjacent to this project. We're at one forty one Shields Road. [3:37:33, 3:37:35]: And my concern [3:37:36, 3:37:44]: Well, first of all, let me say thank you to to you for allowing me to uh speak. I have several concerns in [3:37:44, 3:37:58]: The first concern is that when we talk about the access road, that access road is running right on the side of our property. And there is and I and I understand [3:37:58, 3:38:12]: the purpose of this meeting. But what's important is that part of what they are trying to do and get approved is on land that has not been determined is theirs. [3:38:14, 3:38:19]: So that's a big concern that we're going through right now. So what I'm saying now [3:38:19, 3:38:39]: We've said behind closed doors, and we're saying publicly now. I want everybody to understand that the part of the access road that we're talking about is adjacent with our property. And I just wanted to show you a few things. Uh in addition to that, we're in a very calm neighborhood, and now we're talking [3:38:39, 3:38:48]: About right at Shields Road, and north of our property, we're talking about building a playground. [3:38:48, 3:38:51]: I think the project, as someone has already said, [3:38:52, 3:38:54]: It could be successful. [3:38:55, 3:39:09]: I really believe that it could be successful. But I'm concerned at being approved today with some of the property that you are assuming belong to you because we have one survey, they have another survey. [3:39:10, 3:39:28]: And the surveys are not matching. And we're trying to sit down and discuss where the property lines are. Attorney Cole has uh given me some information to try given us information to try to consider, but one of the documents that [3:39:29, 3:39:40]: Linda Logan presented to me shows that the applicant has already moved on the plans, have already moved our fence back. [3:39:40, 3:39:55]: over half of the acres that we have at the bottom of our property. We live in four point two five acres of land. And as I show you, um let's see, I think he told me to do view. [3:39:56, 3:40:15]: And full screen mode. I know it sounds like everybody is positive about what they want to do today, and I don't have any objections to the project itself. My objection has to do with the fact that you are actually taking some of our property and assuming it belongs to you. [3:40:17, 3:40:30]: You wanna let no Okay. You're assuming that it belongs to you and you have actually written it up in the plan to move a fence that has been existing over twenty years unchallenged. [3:40:31, 3:40:31]: So [3:40:34, 3:40:35]: Taki sh. [3:40:36, 3:40:42]: Mr. Anderson, can you help her with that to Yeah, I just want to advance. Show me how to advance on this one. [3:40:43, 3:40:53]: Where are they? Here. There we go. Okay. So the first thing as I said was the access road. That access road runs north [3:40:53, 3:40:55]: On our property east west. [3:40:56, 3:40:56]: And [3:40:57, 3:41:03]: When you pull that fence back, it gives you more room to build that access road. [3:41:03, 3:41:06]: Am I making sense so far? Go ahead, please. Okay. [3:41:07, 3:41:26]: And so we talked about the noise of the playgrounds, and I know that we we're saying that we're not gonna build two, we're gonna build one, and it sounds like I heard us say that we're gonna put that second playground in the rear end of the project, which is gonna be closer to Shields Road. [3:41:31, 3:41:38]: The playground is no longer? Okay, because one of the one of the plans that was presented to me. [3:41:38, 3:41:58]: No, Linda sent me plans and and I remember we are not arguing. So Linda sent me plans that I'm I'm speaking from. And those plans were not put up today, but these plans were received from Linda last week that showed me that the the um [3:41:59, 3:42:03]: The the line, the fence had been moved. The property fence [3:42:03, 3:42:10]: It's inside of the plans that you guys are, excuse me, this council is about to approve. [3:42:11, 3:42:11]: And [3:42:12, 3:42:28]: As I spoke with the applicant, one thing was said to me as we were trying to talk through some things, and I felt that there was a form of intimidation there. He we l in in our four point two acres, the whole thing is fenced in. [3:42:28, 3:42:48]: And he said to me that he could call code enforcement to make me take down the fence, all all of the fence. And so I didn't I didn't get pushed by that. But then also the attorney is saying to me that the assumption is that the applicant owns the property because they [3:42:48, 3:43:01]: There's a thing that's called race notice, meaning that whoever files the deed first in the chain of titles, they actually own the property. [3:43:02, 3:43:12]: And saying that in 2003 that title was filed. Well, the tent the applicant bought the property in 2021. [3:43:13, 3:43:30]: If you look at the chain of titles and you look at our chain of title, then we would have assumed a chain of title in nineteen ninety-three. So I wasn't satisfied with the point that you're trying to negotiate with me about [3:43:30, 3:43:33]: Some property that we haven't established that belongs to you, said [3:43:34, 3:43:38]: So I'll skip this because we've already talked about this part. [3:43:39, 3:43:52]: The difference in the degrees has to do with they're saying that it's an eighty-nine degree difference, eighty-seven degree, that's two degrees difference in the property. [3:43:53, 3:44:13]: The survey discrepancies have dated back prior to 2003, 2003. Fence been there for two over 20 years. We've paid property and main property taxes and maintained this property for all these years. And so here is the if you look at this particular one, this is the [3:44:13, 3:44:31]: Diagram that Linda sent to me. I didn't draw this. And you see where they've already taken the fence and pulled it back. This is our property. And if you look at the property here, they're proposing to take over half of this part of our four acres. [3:44:32, 3:44:52]: Because you assume this in your plan. I mean, this is what I received from Linda. Please I didn't draw this. Please address me, ma'am. Okay, I'm sorry. I didn't draw this. This was presented to me that where the fence was, now in the proposed plan, you move the fence out that covers over half of the land. [3:44:52, 3:44:58]: at the bottom part of our property where part of the flood area is. That's where part of the flood area is. [3:44:59, 3:45:19]: So my point was that if we approve it today, you're approving it based on the assumption that part of the property belongs to them and it's gonna be part of what they're actually saying is going to be the access road. If you look right here behind all the trees, that's where they would. [3:45:19, 3:45:28]: We're telling me the access road would be right behind our property there, and proposing to take half, over half of this yard here. [3:45:29, 3:45:45]: That yard right I'm sorry, that yard right there is is you saying it belongs to you. That's that's part of the four point two acres. That belongs to us, but according to them and according to the Georgia race notice law that [3:45:45, 3:45:53]: It belong part of it belongs to them, rightfully. It belongs to them because they filed their deed first in a chain of titles. [3:45:53, 3:46:10]: But if you're going to say you purchased the property in twenty twenty one, we purchased our property in two thousand and five and if you're gonna look at chain of title, our chain of title would have been nineteen ninety three, theirs would have been two thousand and three. I know that's not your [3:46:11, 3:46:31]: Responsibility today. My point or our point is that part of the property that they are declaring is theirs and is part of the plan that you're going to approve today. So is there such a thing as a platter survey for this at all? What is uh a platter survey that indicates what who's what who has what property. [3:46:31, 3:46:37]: property or your property lines, but just y are you Both of us have surveys, but both of the surveys are different. They're different. [3:46:37, 3:46:43]: Okay, hold on. I think Miss Carter was Yeah, both of the surveys are different. Miss Carter you gonna address that or something uh [3:46:43, 3:46:45]: So the the dispute [3:46:45, 3:46:49]: between the two property owners is a civil matter. Um [3:46:50, 3:47:06]: But to be taken under under consideration, we have not final platted this project because it has already gone through the preliminary plat until this happens and they build or and they're ready to build, we'll do a final plat at that time and we'll have to address this matter at that time. [3:47:07, 3:47:20]: I see. Okay. Um stand by sir for a second. Okay. So uh I Oh he wants to ask. I'm sorry, you wanted to it's kinda stated. I just wanted to be sure. [3:47:20, 3:47:40]: We're accurate. The landlord the the deeds say the the deeds prior to her deeds and the pre the deeds not change title, they run along the north or south landlot line. That's the language that's used in the deed itself. One says it runs south eighty-nine degrees, one says it runs south eighty-seven degrees. But nope, but that's [3:47:40, 3:47:46]: There's no th her D well you had a quick claim D didn't you? [3:47:47, 3:47:52]: Well, I don't think it was a warranty deed, but it doesn't matter for here. My purpose for contacting her [3:47:52, 3:47:57]: Which I was kinda shocked to see what we've been talking about today. I was trying to settle the issue without going to court on it. [3:47:57, 3:48:04]: 'Cause it was gonna be expensive for her to deal with it, it's gonna be expensive for us to deal with it. Okay. So we were offering to give her [3:48:04, 3:48:15]: That whole part of the yard that she doesn't own that we do. Okay. Yes, sir. The ten minute rules just hit. So council, I'm I'll just want to ask you whether or not we want to continue this on. Yes, please. Okay. [3:48:15, 3:48:18]: Okay. You get you'll get a chance, sir. You get a chance to answer. [3:48:18, 3:48:24]: Quite okay. So go ahead, continue on, sir. That was my whole point. It's not as it's not as she's stating [3:48:25, 3:48:27]: There are deeds out there, and race notice simply means [3:48:28, 3:48:31]: IDs were on before her, so she can't take something that we already own. [3:48:32, 3:48:36]: And there would be an argument that's probably there'd be a lawsuit about it. There would be an argument about [3:48:36, 3:48:41]: twelve feet or two feet or whatever it worked out to be. And we were trying to avoid that for her. [3:48:41, 3:48:47]: And for us. So we made a a a proposal to her. That's all that was. It wasn't any heavy handed [3:48:47, 3:48:53]: tactics or or trying to overreach. It was simply saying, we've got an issue here that we can resolve. [3:48:53, 3:48:56]: You don't have to hire an attorney, they don't have to pay me, we don't have to go to court and deal with it. [3:48:57, 3:48:58]: We'll give you something you don't have. [3:48:59, 3:49:02]: You'll give us something that we really don't think you have, but we'll take it. [3:49:02, 3:49:07]: in compensation for it anyway, and it would resolve the issue. And that's all that was for. And that's my only reason [3:49:07, 3:49:08]: For wanting to say it. [3:49:08, 3:49:13]: 'Cause it was coming across as if we were trying to be heavy handed with her and that's not the case at all. [3:49:13, 3:49:17]: Thank you, sir. No, may I may I speak on that? Go ahead, please. [3:49:18, 3:49:33]: I wasn't implying that they were being heavy-handed. I was trying to make sure that the law was being equally held. If you're saying that the chain of titles, if the chain of titles for this applicant [3:49:34, 3:49:38]: says in two thousand and three when he did not own the property. [3:49:39, 3:49:59]: That he filed first. If you're gonna use that same logic, use it for me as well. That would mean that we purchased in 2005, but there's a chain of titles that says this title was implemented in 1993. So then that would mean that we actually file first. [3:49:59, 3:50:19]: gonna use chain of titles as to be the um the fact and I wasn't trying to say that they were strong arming me or anything like that. I'm simply saying I'm simply saying that you're looking at a picture where they actually moved the fence and as attorney cole is saying today he's saying we're gonna give her something [3:50:19, 3:50:39]: We're gonna give her something that didn't belong to her, which means that you are assuming based on this information that it belongs to the applicant. Okay. That's what you're assuming when you say I'm gonna give you this deed and you give me that deed. You're assuming that you own the property right now without any Okay. [3:50:38, 3:50:52]: Okay. Well from Miss B Carter indicated it's a civil type civil matter. I somehow I guess we shouldn't be involved in this, but since Mr. Washington's here you're gonna address that, sir. Is that correct? Yes. Go ahead. [3:50:54, 3:50:57]: The matter is best handled as a quiet title action. Okay. [3:50:57, 3:50:58]: What is that? [3:50:59, 3:51:19]: A quiet title action where all the litiGantts are brought into court to determine true title for the properties and they would look at t the judge would make a decision as to who the person that has the correct title is about all the parts in dispute because that wouldn't be something that we would have province over. Now is that something that we we should we should make a decision based on that that or we can make a decision [3:51:19, 3:51:22]: [13882.7, 13894.0]: You can make a decision based on the information you're being presented by Miss Carter, Director Carter's department. Right separate from any of this. Okay, got it. All right. Send Sam by the hold on please. Hold on, please. Mr. Blount. Oh God. [3:51:34, 3:51:36]: Uh [3:51:37, 3:51:43]: It it it it seems that uh it's not for you, uh it's for Miss Johnson. [3:51:44, 3:51:45]: Ms. Johnson. [3:51:46, 3:51:50]: W were you aware of this prior to coming in here? [3:51:50, 3:51:51]: Yes. [3:51:51, 3:52:03]: Um the applic this is a civil matter. This has nothing to do with the request before you. Um it is something that we have to do. But you say that we have to get a final we're we're gonna get a final plat, right? Yes. [3:52:03, 3:52:15]: We have to we will not final plat a property that is not titled to the applicants that are coming before us for permits. We will not. So and final plots actually go to planning commission, not to city council. [3:52:17, 3:52:35]: So final let me get understanding'cause when I'm green in certain areas. So if we final plat it, that means that those are the boundary lines. Yes. So we can't final final plat it until this is resolved. Is that what you're saying? Well yes, absolutely. I mean this has come before the council. So [3:52:35, 3:52:47]: If this isn't resolved, the city itself can't final plat it. Correct. We will not we will not file a lot without clear time. You was very much aware of this because you've given letters to [3:52:48, 3:52:48]: Okay. [3:52:49, 3:52:51]: Why are we even hearing this tonight? [3:52:54, 3:52:55]: We're [3:52:55, 3:53:07]: Ma uh Mr. Alezan, I'm asking a question. It was actually at the planning committee. The first time we met. Okay, we already but we already represented it. Let the city manager let the city manager address this, please. [3:53:08, 3:53:09]: Okay. [3:53:10, 3:53:25]: This is a s if they have any property boundaries dispute is a civil issue. This does not impede this property owner from coming before this city council to ask for relief of zoning conditions. [3:53:25, 3:53:34]: Not to redesign the property, right? Because it's already been redesigned. The streets are in, the infrastructure is already in. This man this been through approval. [3:53:35, 3:53:36]: Uh the county. [3:53:37, 3:53:55]: Years ago and it's been approved. So whatever difference they have in terms of the property boundaries is between these two property units they need to see. He's asking for y'all to do away with some zoning conditions. Has nothing to do with the proper read realigning property boundaries, no way such thing. [3:53:55, 3:53:59]: Hear it based on specifically as it relates to their request for [3:54:00, 3:54:14]: Either eliminating or not eliminating zoning conditions and that's it. Don't talk about anything about property boundaries or anything because then you're drawing us into a civil law secret. Mr Garden, I appreciate that. [3:54:15, 3:54:21]: But if Miss Johnson Helen, I'd like to hear Mr Johnson telling her. With all due respect. [3:54:21, 3:54:40]: W the staff gave whatever information they requested, but I'm asking counsel to hear this based on the request by the con by the applicant for reduction of zoning conditions. Okay. Thanks. Modifications, that's it. All right. All right, good deal. Everybody else please please take a seat. Have a seat, please. [3:54:40, 3:55:00]: And so I was uh ma'am, have a seat please. So what I was I was asking for any anybody else uh that was uh had any other comments, negative comments, I went to the center and out to the right. There was nothing to write. There was nothing to write, so I'm gonna close this public hearing. Public hearing is closed. All right now. Um on that note, uh [3:55:00, 3:55:07]: Council uh um matter of fact, uh uh let's see here, how we wanna do this. [3:55:08, 3:55:14]: I really am gonna need a motion, but uh what I wanna do first though before I ask for a motion, uh city manager and a city attorney. [3:55:16, 3:55:17]: See Madam Senator, come back here, please. [3:55:24, 3:55:44]: I think I understood you m uh mister Gardner in reference to that. Obviously Ms. Uh Carter brought up first about a civil matter we can't get involved in that. But what you're saying, what the applicant was asking for is something we could we could approve if you want to approve that. Just wanna make sure that our our attorneys will apprise an anything additional on the legal aspect that you want [3:55:44, 3:55:46]: [14147.4, 14157.1]: No sir, Your Honor. Okay. All right. Mayor. Yeah, yeah, yes, sir. I just got one question real quick. They could start building today if they wanted to, right? [3:55:58, 3:55:59]: Yes. [3:56:00, 3:56:15]: Because all of that's already been dealt with. The only thing that we're dealing with is deciding what the amenities is. So if we turn them down, they still could go ahead and bill regardless of the property line. They don't need to come back, right? Correct. So basically we just got one issue to resolve. That's it. All right. [3:56:16, 3:56:25]: [14186.4, 14198.4]: Right, right. But they right, right. But the issue is w whatever we could approve it. And and it would drastically looking at the site plan, it would drastically reduce the number of locks that they have. [3:56:39, 3:56:42]: In order to put uh regulation size soccer field. [3:56:42, 3:56:46]: On ten acres plus a regulation volleyball on ten acres. [3:56:47, 3:56:59]: So uh uh personally myself, if you ask me, that that's okay. I just want to w I'd like to see the walking trails. All right. So thank you, gentlemen. Appreciate it. Council, I need a motion to accept this proposal that's before us. [3:57:00, 3:57:01]: Mirror. [3:57:02, 3:57:02]: Yes, sir. [3:57:04, 3:57:06]: Okay. Did you want to make a motion? Yeah. Go right here? [3:57:10, 3:57:13]: Put the uh put the amenities back up there again, please. [3:57:38, 3:57:58]: Okay, thank you. We as the city manager suggested, uh, we can remove the soccer field, we can remove the volleyball court, uh, we can remove the pudding green, we can remove the bird sanctuary. Um that was the suggestion, correct, sir? I mean that was what you suggested, those two items. [3:57:58, 3:58:00]: [14286.4, 14306.4]: Uh I was adding the fact that those are sizable um amenities that obviously would eat up developable land in order to make it happen. Um or put it in the floodplain, which obviously you don't want to really do that. Right. So those that was the soccer field and the volleyball court, correct? Yeah. Okay, so the soccer field could be [3:58:26, 3:58:46]: Eliminated, the volleyball court could be eliminated, uh, the pucket putting green could be eliminated, the bird sanctuary uh could be eliminated. Uh the motion is to include the clubhouse, the pavilion, the gazebo, uh the monument sign, the walking trail, uh, and the extra [3:58:46, 3:58:56]: parking spaces, uh the and the extra parking spaces because we know people have gatherings and event and as indicated here there's uh not enough parking for the clubhouse. [3:58:57, 3:58:59]: All right, is there a second to that motion? [3:59:00, 3:59:01]: They add the grill. [3:59:02, 3:59:05]: The grill with the fireplace is a as well. [3:59:05, 3:59:07]: All right, is there a second to the motion? [3:59:07, 3:59:20]: I second. Miss Barber seconds that. All right, we plenty have plenty of discussion. So on favor and I uh the discussion is part of this format, maybe what's the discussion the discussion is that they've already laid the sidewalk. [3:59:21, 3:59:23]: They only have ten feet to d to work with. [3:59:24, 3:59:37]: on uh to the street. They've already laid the sidewalk. They can pick the amenities that they want. We've given builders that th that option to pick the amenities. The amenages that've been picked is only forty one units. [3:59:37, 3:59:40]: while we have any ability to go back [3:59:40, 3:59:41]: And now [3:59:42, 3:59:44]: Add concrete to concrete. [3:59:44, 3:59:53]: No sir, that's not what's happening. They're gonna build a separate walk and track Uh Ma uh Mayor, uh Mayor, please, can you get order when someone else is talking? Go ahead and talk. [3:59:54, 3:59:55]: For me. [3:59:55, 4:00:00]: The three amenities been picked by this builder is forty one units. [4:00:00, 4:00:01]: Um [4:00:02, 4:00:16]: They have the the the real doors they they have a lot going on with this with this development and I'm not for them spending that extra money for trails on on this and they've indicated that they d don want to put that expense on. All right, any further discussion? [4:00:18, 4:00:18]: Yes, ma'am. [4:00:27, 4:00:30]: What do you mean the mon I thought I said the monument sign, yes. [4:00:31, 4:00:35]: No, the the gym and workout and all that. [4:00:35, 4:00:37]: The jam. [4:00:44, 4:00:45]: Yes. Yes. [4:00:47, 4:00:49]: Do we need to read the whole motion over again? [4:00:51, 4:01:11]: Go right ahead, please. But read what you what read what you you have. Keep the following the clubhouse, the pavilion, the gazebo, the monument sign, the walking trails, the extra parking spaces. Um number three will reduce the number of programs from two to one by [4:01:11, 4:01:23]: having a combined playground rather than a separate top lot and playground for older children. Uh we provide a gym and workout space inside the clubhouse. Provide grills and benches next to the clubhouse. [4:01:26, 4:01:38]: Extend the sidewalk to interconnect to neighborhood, develop the commercial spaces up front, and provide a stub out for future interconnectivity to neighboring lots. [4:01:39, 4:01:42]: And and Miss Barber, you second that motion, is that correct? [4:01:43, 4:01:44]: Okay. [4:01:44, 4:01:48]: All right. Any further discussion? Can I ask for clarification? I'm sorry. [4:01:48, 4:01:49]: Um [4:01:49, 4:01:52]: She she she did second the motion, is my understanding. [4:01:53, 4:01:56]: Is Barber? Okay. She's seconded them also. Yes, ma'am. [4:01:56, 4:02:09]: I was just asking for clarification on um Councilman Alexander not allowing them to reduce the number of playground spots, uh parking. I just wanted to be sure I understood that you are not wanting to allow them to remove any parking. [4:02:10, 4:02:14]: No, right. We know right. Th the there's only a few parking spots at the clubhouse, correct? [4:02:16, 4:02:17]: Hmm? [4:02:18, 4:02:21]: We we we do we want the extra parking. [4:02:23, 4:02:31]: The extra parking spaces to serve. Right. What they were asking. No, sorry, no, right. We're not trying to remove those. We want to leave those. Sorry. [4:02:32, 4:02:46]: Okay. Um Ms. Gand, did you have something on your mind? So the only thing that we are adding from what they ask their proposal is we're only adding the walking trails and we're keeping the parking spaces as is. Is that what we're doing? [4:02:47, 4:03:07]: Mm-hmm. And we're reducing. No, we're adding the walking trails and m making them putting the extra parking spaces for the amenities. Right. And moving two uh two into one playground. Playgrounds into one. Okay. Correct. And then everything in number four for the gym and workout space, grills and benches. [4:03:07, 4:03:10]: an extended sidewalk and the sidewalk's top out. [4:03:11, 4:03:11]: Okay. [4:03:12, 4:03:13]: Any further discussion? [4:03:15, 4:03:17]: If not, all in favor of the motion please indicate [4:03:19, 4:03:23]: All opposed? Okay, four one, it passes. Thank you very much. [4:03:23, 4:03:24]: Thank you. [4:03:25, 4:03:26]: Alrighty. [4:03:27, 4:03:30]: Thank you, Mr. Anderson. Thank you, Ms. Carter. [4:03:31, 4:03:32]: Now going to new business. [4:03:33, 4:03:46]: Grant Acceptance Criminal Criminal Justice Coordinated Counsel CJCC FY twenty three law enforcement training grant in amount of seventeen thousand four hundred ninety-five dollars presented by Chief Tremor and Miss Anderson. [4:03:48, 4:03:48]: Please. [4:04:17, 4:04:20]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Evening. [4:04:23, 4:04:36]: We're here before you this evening to uh seek your approval for acceptance of uh several different grants that the police department has applied for uh that are going enable us to uh better serve our community. [4:04:36, 4:04:56]: Uh the first grant that we are seeking your um acceptance of is the uh Georgia Criminal Justice Coordinating Uh Pro uh Counsels uh grant uh for law enforcement training. We have received a grant from uh CJCC in the amount of seventeen thousand seven hundred and ninety-five dollars. Uh [4:04:56, 4:05:10]: Uh that grant will cover uh law enforcement training specifically related to use of force and de-escalation training uh for all of our staff with the Stockbridge Police Department. If there are any questions, I'd be happy to answer those at this time. [4:05:11, 4:05:31]: I actually don't have a question, but I need to apologize to Captain Anderson. I didn't say Captain Addison earlier, so excuse me, Captain. Pl please forgive me. All right. Any questions, Council? Yeah, real quick. Sir, you've been waiting a long time, but talk about these grants and the effect that they're gonna have on us moving forward in turn of [4:05:31, 4:05:39]: Overall public safety in addition to with the especially with the annexation areas that we're adding. [4:05:40, 4:05:54]: Sure, so the the three grants that we're uh presenting to council for acceptance this evening are grants that uh are related, well these two of those are related to specific training that are in line with uh the pillars of twenty first century policing. [4:05:55, 4:06:11]: Uh so this grant right here as it relates to uh use of force de-escalation training, pillar five of uh the President's Task Force on Twenty First Century Policing, obviously focuses on law enforcement training. We see a lot across the board uh as it relates to um uh [4:06:11, 4:06:31]: Officers being trained to utilize de-escalation techniques uh more appropriately, um, to develop uh use of force training programs that allow officers to respond more appropriately to uh situations that they're dealing with and encounters that they have with members of the uh community. Um that uh will allow us again [4:06:31, 4:06:33]: to better serve the community. [4:06:33, 4:06:53]: Um some of the other grants that uh we've received and are seeking acceptance for the mental health and wellness grant. That's uh pillar six of the president's uh uh twenty first century policing task force that relates to officer safety and wellness. This is an internal grant that will allow us to provide um psychological evaluations for our staff on a regular basis. [4:06:53, 4:07:13]: to um conduct various different training and wellness programs that will uh serve our officers better because what we believe is that if we serve our officers better, if we are able to provide them with additional training and additional assistance to cope with the stresses that they have to deal with, that translates into more effective service to members of the community. [4:07:13, 4:07:33]: And then the other grant is a bulletproof vest partnership award grant, which helps us offset our uniform expenses that we've already been out of pocket to provide ballistic vests for our staff. So it's covering half of the expenses that relates to that. But one of the key grants, as it relates to the question that you posed, that we're not here before the council to seek acceptance. [4:07:33, 4:07:45]: because we've already presented this, but through the diligent effort of Captain Anderson who's already secured for us this year nearly one point five million dollars in grant funding for various different initiatives. Yes, absolutely. Kudos to you. [4:07:48, 4:08:08]: Uh we received uh one point two five million dollars through the um COPS hiring grant that will enable us to onboard ten additional officers and this grant will help defray the cost of those ten additional uh sworn personnel uh for the next three years. So um and that lines with our [4:08:08, 4:08:28]: uh community policing efforts also pillar of 21st century policing. Um we've also got two smaller microgrants again that we're not seeking acceptance for, but we want to let the council uh know so that you're aware of all the work that's being done. And Walmart has gived that given us uh two grants,$5,000 apiece, so that we're able to serve [4:08:28, 4:08:48]: um some needy families in the city of Stockbridge and do a shop with a cop program at our Hudson Bridge and our North Henry Um Boulevard Walmarts. And we will be accepting applications sometime this week. So we encourage those who are online or if you know needy families who may be in need to go through the application process so that we can serve them. [4:08:48, 4:09:08]: So a lot of very good, a lot of very forward-facing uh programs, a lot of great effort initiative by Captain Anderson actively looking for some of these grand opportunities out there, again, which will ultimately help defray the cost. So, as an example, use of forced de-escalation training is extremely important to our police department. If it were not for that 18,000, [4:09:08, 4:09:28]: that we receive for that grant funding, that$18,000 would have to come from as part of our budget to be able to provide that training. The internal mental health and well-being training for our officers, again, which is very important, if it weren't for the grant funding, we would be responsible for funding that through the budget process. And so we don't have [4:09:28, 4:09:48]: And then obviously uh the fact that we've been able to uh secure funding to hire ten additional officers is extremely um extremely important to our organization, the service that uh we provide to members of our community. And um, you know, we couldn't have done it without the uh again the diligence of uh Captain Anderson moving forward and actively looking for ways. [4:09:48, 4:10:08]: That we can help to phrase some of the costs as it relates to operations of the police department. And just finally, uh in terms of going into 2023, we didn't have you all come up earlier, but uh you have what you need with this new growth coming into the city uh to uh always ask, what do you need? [4:10:08, 4:10:14]: We're doing the budgetary times now. So do you have what you need to move us forward into twenty twenty one? [4:10:14, 4:10:34]: Right. Well well the 10 positions are obviously going to help. But I want to remind the council back when we um established the police department, we decided to start out smaller because we really didn't understand what the true demands were in terms of service. Um and uh now that we have a better understanding of that, now that we're operational, um it was recommended uh through the Carl Vinson study. [4:10:34, 4:10:42]: Study that we uh start out with fifty-seven sworn officers. We started out with fifty-two. Uh so we started out uh a little smaller. So um [4:10:43, 4:11:03]: Based on our calls for service with the current population we have, um the data that we've calculated is that we need nine additional officers just to meet the demands that the city currently has uh to operate more efficiently to be able to do true community policing so that we don't have residents waiting for you know for for fifteen, twenty, thirty minutes for officers to respond. [4:11:03, 4:11:14]: Um the annexation does bring some new challenges because now with the annexation we have the entirety of the interstate that we're responsible for, from the Henry County line all the way down to Jodoko Road. It's extremely busy. [4:11:14, 4:11:34]: uh section which would necessitate uh in all likelihood a traffic unit to be able to address those um those issues. Um and then also with the addition of the eight thousand uh seven to eight thousand uh new residents, um that obviously is gonna increase the demand for service and so um you know estimations are that we need anywhere um [4:11:34, 4:11:54]: From uh the the ten officers that we requested up to twenty-one officers in order to be able to effectively uh deliver that uh service to our community. So uh we we do need additional uh positions and then there are uh some support functions too. So we're not just talking about the sworn staff, we're talking about civilian. [4:11:54, 4:12:11]: civilian staff too because we've already seen an increased demand as it relates to requests for reports, open records requests and things along those lines, serving citizens as they come into the police department. And um we we actually um uh need some more administrative personnel to be able to support that. [4:12:11, 4:12:25]: And one of the things that we would like to move forward, and Captain Anderson is actually working on, I'll share with you some of the other opportunities, um, some funding for uh software that will allow us to be better uh analyze crime data so that we can s respond more appropriately. [4:12:25, 4:12:34]: And um certainly uh a crime analyst, a dedicated crime analyst to help us respond to those things would be uh would be beneficial. So um [4:12:34, 4:12:36]: We uh [4:12:36, 4:12:52]: Uh as I said before, we're in need of nine additional positions in absence of annexation and in order to meet that demand we will need some additional officers uh to to meet that need so that we can continue to provide the high level of service that we have um uh promised uh members of the community. [4:12:53, 4:13:13]: So I'm just sorry. I'm just a little stunned about so we got all of the and you never we haven't been on the interstate and now we have all the interstate. We we had portions of it, but it it wasn't the entirety of the interstate. It was it was it was pockets uh of the interstate. But that still ke keeps us extremely busy. We're we're averaging about seventy-five instances that our officers are responsible. [4:13:13, 4:13:16]: responded to accidents out on the interstate per month just with the small section that we have. [4:13:17, 4:13:22]: So now having the entirety of the interstate it it it obviously is going to um uh [4:13:22, 4:13:26]: present some added challenges for our officers, uh, for certain. [4:13:26, 4:13:36]: Well, thanks. So could you okay, you it ends at uh Jodico, bridge to Jodico, right? Correct. And then where's the start again now? At the Henry County line. [4:13:36, 4:13:38]: It's a Harry Can I lie. [4:13:39, 4:13:50]: And how many miles out I'm I'm sorry, Chief. Is this about what's that about twenty miles? No, no, no, not twenty miles. It's probably s six to seven miles. So only six to seven? Okay. All right. All right. [4:13:50, 4:13:56]: Well both sides? Yeah, it is both sides, north and south. Okay. Got it. All right. So anyway, so um [4:13:56, 4:13:59]: Any other questions in reference to the uh this uh [4:13:59, 4:14:10]: This this first grant proposal acceptance here. Mayor Mayor Ford. Oh I I'm I'm sorry, Ms. Barber, stand by the member. I do have a couple of questions, but I want to say thank you. Thank you, Captain Anderson. [4:14:10, 4:14:11]: Um [4:14:11, 4:14:15]: That's exactly what my vision was as far as [4:14:15, 4:14:17]: Having people who are dedicated to [4:14:17, 4:14:22]: going out and identifying these grants. Um I know it's not gonna [4:14:23, 4:14:23]: Uh [4:14:24, 4:14:26]: Make up for [4:14:27, 4:14:30]: the amount of money that we have to budget for the overall [4:14:30, 4:14:33]: Operations of the police department, but it certainly does help. [4:14:34, 4:14:36]: One point four five million dollars. [4:14:36, 4:14:40]: goes a long way. Um so I appreciate your efforts. [4:14:41, 4:14:43]: I do have a question though, with [4:14:43, 4:14:47]: Remember I think um over the summer we did [4:14:48, 4:14:50]: Uh you brought a grant to us. [4:14:50, 4:14:54]: And that was going to help offset the cost for [4:14:54, 4:14:56]: Some additional officers. [4:14:57, 4:14:59]: When will that take effect? [4:15:00, 4:15:01]: That that grant um [4:15:02, 4:15:19]: The the resolution was to apply for and accept that grant. We have received that grant. So we've got the funds. There's just some procedural issues that Captain Anderson could probably speak to if you have um uh some questions about that in terms of how we receive those funds and when we receive those funds. Okay, and my next question is [4:15:19, 4:15:24]: For those officers who will be paid under that grant. [4:15:25, 4:15:40]: What about the uniforms, the cars, the equipment, weapons that they need? Is that included in our twenty twenty three budget, Mr. Gardner? Okay. [4:15:43, 4:15:44]: Thank you. [4:15:45, 4:16:05]: Good question down here? That was it. Yeah. Okay, go ahead, Mr. Porto. Yeah. Chief, I I I just wanna commend you and your staff because as you probably know, I'm I'm a little concerned about our budget. And so what I've heard, I mean, I'm really excited about it. And when I hear you say uh [4:16:05, 4:16:25]: sustaining for three years, you know, that's that's what I want to hear. And so I'm sure without even saying that you are going to continue in the trenches identifying grants that will be able to uh plug into the police department. So uh uh it's good for me and I'm I'm just glad to hear that. [4:16:24, 4:16:25]: Right. [4:16:25, 4:16:33]: Yeah, and I appreciate that. And this is what the next slide is here, just to give you an overview. Uh Captain Anderson's actually working on um uh [4:16:33, 4:16:53]: A grant that will supply additional technology and equipment that will help us uh as it relates to violent crime reduction. She's working on a uh$1.5 million grant. It would supply cameras, uh automated license plate readers, uh crime intelligence software, um, a lot of various different uh technological components. [4:16:53, 4:17:13]: You know that's a vision that we have to leverage technology for public safety. So she's working on that grant proposal right now. Some of the other large grants, and as it relates to staffing, one of the ones that we'll be seeking in the future is the governor's office of highway safety heat grant, which is a traffic-specific grant, which will fund uh vehicles and the salary for office. [4:17:13, 4:17:21]: Again for uh how many year what a year period is that? Uh it's it renews every year. Okay. So it renews year after year after year. [4:17:22, 4:17:37]: Yes. And uh we're ask we're we're also looking at uh a cops grant that will allow us to uh up to a hundred and twenty five thousand dollars to uh develop various different uh youth programs um in the community. So we're seeking those opportunities out as well. [4:17:39, 4:17:44]: Excellent. Any other questions? No questions, just excellent. [4:17:45, 4:18:02]: Well yeah, we're gonna I'm gonna ask for it. No question, I'm gonna ask for a vote. Absolutely uh I mean a a motion. Chief, I just also wanna say Chief and Cat uh Captain Anderson, I appreciate everything you all do. If I could get you out of here and just vote for all three at one time, I would do it. But um they have some procedures here. [4:18:02, 4:18:22]: Right. So anyway, for the first uh need a motion for the very first one and the criminal justice coordinated counsel. Is there a second? Second. Okay, all favor please indicate. Fantastic. Okay. Grant acceptance, uh, Office of Community Oriented Oriented Policing Services, COPS, FY twenty two law enforcement mental health and wellness act. [4:18:22, 4:18:36]: L E M H W A grant an amount of hundred seventy five thousand dollars presented by Chief Tremor and Captain Anderson, which you've already talked about. Okay. [4:18:37, 4:18:40]: I I'll give it to Barber there. She's second. All fair please indicate. [4:18:40, 4:18:42]: So now she says he's not right. [4:18:42, 4:18:55]: Grant Acceptance FY twenty two Department of Justice Bulletproof Vest Partnership Award. This funding is not awarded uh on the pre precedent pre precedent of a city identifying and confirming cost match for the project. [4:18:55, 4:19:00]: predicate okay we have the city identifying uh confirming c a cost match for the product. [4:19:00, 4:19:01]: Project. [4:19:01, 4:19:07]: This funding is awarded to offset costs of department has or will occur after April first, twenty twenty two. [4:19:07, 4:19:27]: For the purchase of bulletproof vests, the offset amount is fifty percent, and the Department of Justice will reimburse to the city. The Department has fifty-six uh bulletproof vests at a cost of forty-four thousand eight hundred dollars. The reimbursement amount awarded to the city is twenty-two thousand four hundred. The uh count uh to be used to receive the reimbursement is one hundred dash [4:19:27, 4:19:46]: Uh zero zero zero zero zero dash three three four three one seven presented by Chief Trammer. We've already talked about that. So you need a motion. So move. Okay. Uh so move for Barber. Who second that? I second. Miss Miss Grant uh Ms. Kant second that all in favor, please indicate. So you now decision. Fantastic. [4:19:51, 4:19:55]: Uh that was uh that was Blount and then to Barber on the second one. Uhhuh. [4:19:56, 4:20:16]: And then the other last one was Barber DeGantt. Yes. Okay. Council consideration to approve the res uh let's see here. This is okay. On that note, I'm sorry. That that's it for you all. Uh Chief, not the micromanage, but uh can you promote her to major real quick? Oh yeah. Yeah, she's done an excellent job for us, I'll tell you. Congratulations. There you go. [4:20:16, 4:20:21]: Awesome, awesome, awesome, man. The news is great. Appreciate it. [4:20:21, 4:20:22]: Thanks, Chief. [4:20:23, 4:20:43]: Thank you, Captain. Council consideration approved a resolution for the City of Stockbridge to request remittance of 1.904 meals associated with the former police services provided by Henry County Police Department to the City of Stockbridge residents, to the police services July 1st, 2022, to December 31st, 2022, and to amend the service to [4:20:43, 4:20:51]: Delivery strategy, SDS for police services. The city hereby withdraws from the SDS agreement and a need for the police services by Henry Counter County. [4:20:52, 4:20:58]: Further, the city request and improved staff to amend the SDS agreement to reflect the creation of the Stockbridge Police Department. [4:20:58, 4:21:18]: The city further resolves that this resolution to be presented to Henry County as a request to the end Henry County's policing of the city of Stockbridge. Further, the city requests that the city re county reimburse the city of Stockbridge for all the money is owed from July of twenty twenty two four forward. Further, if money is held for policing [4:21:18, 4:21:29]: in the next calendar year, the city requests that the money be sent to the city as well. The revenue document is attached as exhibit A presented by uh Mr. Gardner, please. [4:21:30, 4:21:42]: Good night, man, Council. Since we I think we believe but this this item is part of the the budget. Um I think everybody's quite aware what what this request is going to do so. Um and I'll take any questions. [4:21:43, 4:22:01]: Mayor. Yes, ma'am. I move that we approve this resolution. Okay. Is there a second? Second. Mr. Blount's got a second here. And uh all in favor, please indicate. Thank you very much. And the next one, council consideration approve the following dates for the redevelopment plan, public hearing and adoption. [4:22:01, 4:22:08]: November twenty ninth, twenty twenty two, first reading and december twelfth, twenty twenty two adoption. Mr. Gardner, please. [4:22:08, 4:22:23]: Yes, good night, Mayor and Council. Once again, um at our last meeting we brought uh to you guys uh update as to what we've been working on in relation to um us developing an urban redevelopment plan as part of OCGA. [4:22:23, 4:22:27]: thirty six forty four, which is the redevelopment powers law. [4:22:27, 4:22:47]: Um that allow for the city to have or to develop a tide. As you know, the residents of Henry County voted in 2020 during a referendum to allow for the cities and the county to have a tide. Um and that was done in 2021. So we're the first gonna be the first up of [4:22:47, 4:22:59]: all the cities to move with the the use of this um major incentive development incentive and as as I try to rem remind you um [4:23:00, 4:23:09]: This this incentive was done um to make Atlantic Station possible, to make um the Camp Creek Marketplace possible. [4:23:10, 4:23:17]: Um and there's been those are two of the most successful ones, I I guess in the Metro. Um, but it's been utilized around the state. [4:23:17, 4:23:21]: Um and we think it's gonna be necessary for us moving forward. [4:23:21, 4:23:41]: To invet to have this available for us as a tool in our toolbox as we look for the redevelopment and revitalization of our downtown highway one through the corridor. And so with that, I'm gonna let our consultant, uh Mr. Gary Manjin, uh, with KP Advisory Group, which is one of the biggest firms that do tide-tide studies around uh [4:23:41, 4:23:50]: Um the state of Georgia and probably in the southeast. So I'm gonna turn it over to Gary. And out he's under the weather a little bit so I'm gonna move away from my seatbelt. Please appreciate that. [4:23:51, 4:23:57]: Um I don't know where the presentation is. [4:23:59, 4:23:59]: Yeah. [4:24:05, 4:24:10]: Did I put it? Well did I PDF? There we go. That's it. [4:24:20, 4:24:37]: That's that's fine. That's right. Okay. Well you've had a long night. Um and I was gonna go for like an hour and a half, but I'll try to I'll try to uh I'll try to go a little faster if I can get rid of this. Um [4:24:42, 4:24:50]: All right, can can you get rid of this? Great. Yeah, that'd be great. [4:24:53, 4:24:55]: Okay. [4:24:58, 4:25:18]: All right, well Fred, Frederick um gave you an introduction of why we're here. Uh the only thing I would add to that is if you want to have this incentive in place to be able to use next year, you have to get it done um before December thirty-first, which is kind of why we're in the process now. If you decide to wait [4:25:18, 4:25:21]: Uh then it'll be a full twelve months before we consider again. [4:25:22, 4:25:35]: So we've been analy analyzing options. Uh we made a presentation a couple of weeks ago, a few weeks ago. We are now what I want to do tonight is kind of give you a thumbnail sketch of what's in the plan. [4:25:36, 4:25:56]: And really these redevelopment plans, there there's two or three things they have to do. One is they have to establish the qualifications uh for the redevelopment area that it's appropriate to use this incentive. Um it has to and secondly, it has to identify the tax allocation district and basically provide a business plan. [4:25:56, 4:26:08]: in terms of how the city would implement this plan, uh what it would use the funds for, et cetera, et cetera. So in we went we talked about last time what a redevelopment area is. [4:26:08, 4:26:08]: Um [4:26:10, 4:26:11]: Ian [4:26:11, 4:26:12]: This [4:26:12, 4:26:15]: In red are some of the criteria [4:26:15, 4:26:20]: that are required for designation as a redevelopment area. You don't have to meet every single one. [4:26:20, 4:26:30]: But these are the kind these are some of the criteria that this part of Stockbridge uh qualifies for. And I'll show you the map a little bit later. But [4:26:31, 4:26:33]: Basically there's five different [4:26:33, 4:26:37]: categories that apply to this area we're looking at within the city. [4:26:37, 4:26:52]: Uh one is pervasive poverty, which the statute defines as more than ten percent of the population. Uh the poverty rate in the redevelopment area is about ten point seven percent and it's eighteen percent among families with with children. So you meet that criteria. [4:26:53, 4:27:13]: Talks about high vacancy compared to the political subdivision as a whole. Uh vacancy rates right now in Stockbridge, basically everywhere in Georgia, are very, very low. Uh but in terms of the vacancy rate for all housing types, you're about a percentage point higher than the city average in terms of residential vacancy. That's all [4:27:13, 4:27:33]: All types of housing, single-family, multifamily, mobile homes, et cetera. It talks about declining or stagnant rents or sales prices compared to the community as a whole. We found that apartment rents in the redevelopment area about 13% less than the city average. Retail rents are nearly 22% less than the county average. [4:27:33, 4:27:39]: We couldn't look at retail rents just as in at the city level. [4:27:39, 4:27:45]: And then this final category is substantial presence of structures, basically old buildings with no historic significance. [4:27:45, 4:27:48]: And structures of relatively low value. And when you look at [4:27:49, 4:27:51]: This part of the city [4:27:51, 4:28:11]: Um particularly within the tax allocation district, we found four hundred and eighty thousand square feet of buildings that are more than forty years old. The assessed value of those buildings, including residential and uh commercial, is less than is only about fifty-one dollars a square foot. To build new commercial space, reasonable quality, [4:28:11, 4:28:31]: You're at about$145 to$150 a square foot. So you're like a third of replacement costs right now. And then finally, some parts of your redevelopment area have inadequate infrastructure, not necessarily today, but if you implement the plans, particularly for downtown, clearly the streets, utilities, parking areas are inadequate to be able to do that. [4:28:31, 4:28:51]: Support the plans you have in place. So those are the criteria on which it uh it qualifies as a redevelopment area. I don't know if you see this map very well, but this is what we've proposed as the redevelopment area. It's about 1,350 acres, it's contains about 26% of your city population. [4:28:51, 4:29:03]: That is before annexation, by the way. I I wrote all this stuff about a week to two weeks ago and I I did not know what was gonna happen with the annexation referendum. So all these numbers now will change dramatically. [4:29:04, 4:29:05]: Um [4:29:05, 4:29:22]: It's the rate of population growth since twenty ten has been about a percentage point lower than the city average. I think that's probably overstated because there really hasn't been much new construction in this area. Uh the main difference between this part of the city and the rest of the city is the home ownership rate. [4:29:23, 4:29:27]: is eighteen percent less than the city average. About half of all the housing units in this area [4:29:28, 4:29:32]: A renter occupied, it's because there's three apartment complexes included. [4:29:32, 4:29:34]: in it but also [4:29:34, 4:29:41]: Uh of the single family homes in the redevelopment area, significant percentage are investor owned rental units as opposed to owner occupied. [4:29:42, 4:29:44]: has a young population [4:29:44, 4:30:04]: Um the median owner occupied housing value is about almost thirty percent lower than the city and thirty-seven percent lower than the county median. Uh the meeting age of the housing stock is three years older than the than the city as a whole, and the household income median household income is twelve point nine percent lower than the city and more than the city. [4:30:04, 4:30:15]: than a quarter lower than the county median income respectively. So this area shown on this map clearly qualifies as a redevelopment area under statute. So that's hurdle one. [4:30:17, 4:30:25]: The second hurdle is the tax allocation district. I proposed the map last time we were here. That map is still subject to change. Uh [4:30:26, 4:30:26]: However [4:30:27, 4:30:31]: input we get, we'd be happy to change it, uh add to it, subtract from it. [4:30:31, 4:30:32]: Um [4:30:34, 4:30:39]: Just a couple of points regarding the tax allocation district, just to clear up some possible mis misconceptions. [4:30:40, 4:30:53]: Um communities have a lot of discretion in terms of determining how any revenues available within this tax allocation district uh can be spent. As long as they're eligible purposes, you have complete discretion. [4:30:53, 4:30:58]: In terms of how you spend that money, as long as it's consistent with the purposes of the law. [4:30:59, 4:31:04]: And the purpose of the redevelopment plan is to forecast potential and I'm gonna ask [4:31:04, 4:31:08]: I want to emphasize potential future rest future revenues. [4:31:09, 4:31:22]: Um it's not a f you know, it's not a prediction, it's a it's what's the potential of the TAD to create new tax digest, new increment, and revenues that could be spent for redevelopment purposes. [4:31:22, 4:31:31]: Um the contents of this plan are not binding on the city. If I s say that, you know, we're thinking about allocating [4:31:32, 4:31:41]: you know, three and a half million dollars or six million dollars to parking dexes does not require you to spend that money on parking decks. It's just an outline. It's a again a roadmap. [4:31:41, 4:31:43]: A plan as of today. [4:31:44, 4:31:46]: What a tad doesn't do [4:31:46, 4:31:52]: And sometimes you know people who show up at public hearings will say this it does not impose a tax increase. [4:31:52, 4:31:54]: It doesn't grant an abatement. [4:31:54, 4:31:55]: It doesn't entitle [4:31:56, 4:32:13]: Developers are property owners within the district to get an abatement. Um it has nothing to do with her eminent domain. Um it does not authorize approving this plan does not authorize bond issues or city spending. Those decisions are made afterward. [4:32:14, 4:32:20]: And it doesn't bind the county and school district to participate unless those elected officials vote to do so. [4:32:20, 4:32:28]: So before you can go to the county and school district and ask if they're willing to consent to the TED, you have to adopt the redevelopment plan first. [4:32:28, 4:32:30]: That's the way the process works. [4:32:31, 4:32:31]: Um [4:32:32, 4:32:36]: And no property within the Tad is entitled. I don't stress entitled. [4:32:36, 4:32:40]: to receive TAD funds for any purpose, but they can apply. [4:32:40, 4:32:50]: If i and typically what happens after these plans are approved, after you know what the county and school district are willing to do in terms of consent. [4:32:50, 4:32:53]: Then communities develop policies and procedures to decide [4:32:54, 4:33:06]: Um how to deal with developers, property owners who would like to apply for TAD funds. And that's down the road that would happen sometime next year. And that's not an arduous process. [4:33:07, 4:33:12]: So this slide is the proposed TED. I have not made any changes to the last version. [4:33:12, 4:33:13]: Um [4:33:14, 4:33:34]: There are you know several areas that we could consider adding to this. Um but again this is the boundary currently proposed. It's three hundred and it's actually three hundred and forty-four parcels, not three and about five hundred and one acres. Uh again, this is a work in process. I've I've been refining numbers in the last week. The twenty twenty [4:33:34, 4:33:40]: twenty two tax digest is just under this is the gross tax digest is just under thirty five point nine million dollars. [4:33:42, 4:33:46]: The area's shaded inside this map is a as I say, it's over f five hundred acres. [4:33:47, 4:33:49]: Five hundred acres surrounding this building. [4:33:50, 4:33:52]: So including your downtown. [4:33:53, 4:34:13]: 35.5 million or 35.9 million to digest is a very, very small number. Uh there's about six hundred and fifty thousand square feet of taxable commercial buildings, there's about three hundred and twenty-three housing units. Um we tried to leave out established residential neighborhoods to the extent we could. [4:34:13, 4:34:17]: Like to include some that potentially could increase in value. [4:34:17, 4:34:20]: Um if the improvements were made, but we left out [4:34:20, 4:34:21]: You can see [4:34:22, 4:34:29]: Most of the residential areas inside and surrounding this district are left out, partly because of the city limits, partly because [4:34:30, 4:34:39]: You don't want to get the school district upset by including, you know, residential development uh inside the TAD. [4:34:40, 4:35:00]: Excuse me. Gotta I'm sorry to interrupt you. It it seems like right in the middle of this you you have a it looks like it's surrounded, right? You got a area that's not inside. It's just seem like it's out it's it's it's surrounded by the tad. What right there, yeah. What what is that? That's a um that's a very dense subdivision. And that was a close call to input it in or out. Uh [4:35:00, 4:35:00]: [16501.1, 16502.5]: Is that what that is? Yes. [4:35:03, 4:35:04]: Okay. [4:35:05, 4:35:09]: Yeah, I got it. Yeah. [4:35:09, 4:35:10]: Um [4:35:11, 4:35:25]: The age of housing in this district is nineteen sixty-six. That's the average year built. And that I think that's really important. Uh the average age of commercial development is in the early nineteen seventies. Um and [4:35:25, 4:35:29]: I think the one thing you can say about this tad if the city does not do anything aggressive. [4:35:30, 4:35:34]: Chances are values twenty years from now aren't gonna be significantly different than they are today. [4:35:34, 4:35:54]: And that's basically the question. Do you want to take a risk and do some things and try to change this area or just let it grow as it has organically over time? And that's that's really the question. Um how the TAD works, we went through this slide before, I won't go through it again. But basically, uh as of December 31st, if you approve this redevelopment plan, the [4:35:54, 4:36:10]: The base digest of the TAD would be about 35.9 million. Any increase in value that occurs in the TAD in the future would would be depositive. Any increase in that tax revenue would go to your TAD special fund as opposed to the general funds. [4:36:10, 4:36:17]: The county and school district millage rates are a lot higher than yours, so most of the revenue would come from them, not from the city. [4:36:18, 4:36:19]: Um [4:36:19, 4:36:22]: Which is a another issue, but uh I'll get to that in a minute. [4:36:23, 4:36:23]: Um [4:36:24, 4:36:26]: So the main thing [4:36:26, 4:36:32]: that these plans are supposed to do is identify what's the potential for redevelopment to occur. [4:36:32, 4:36:50]: And the main area that you are all concerned about and interested in that we want to effectuate change is area one, which is your downtown, basically downtown Stockbridge, your urban redevelopment area, and then the the historic portion portion along M MLK Senior Boulevard. [4:36:50, 4:36:51]: Um [4:36:51, 4:36:53]: Senior Heritage Trail. [4:36:53, 4:36:55]: Those two areas together are kind of your downtown. [4:36:57, 4:36:58]: Um [4:36:58, 4:37:18]: So we looked at that. We looked at your comprehensive plan, which proposes to extend Rock Quarry War uh Road all the way to Old Conyers Road, which would open up a significant amount of acreage to future residential development. There is this uh area that's owned by a single area entity in area three that's [4:37:18, 4:37:21]: below Brush Creek that could support some development. [4:37:22, 4:37:42]: Area four is the area we just spent a lot of time discussing that townhome development, as well as the existing apartment complex. I think it's Villas 52, located just on the north side. This apartment complex is uh is valued at about a hundred and two thousand a unit, excuse me, hundred twenty six. [4:37:42, 4:38:02]: 6,000 a unit. It's significantly lower valued than the other two accomplis apartment complexes further to the wheat uh west. And it's also substantially lower than most other apartments in the region. So anything you could do to encourage investment in that property would probably help, although I would not consider it a huge [4:38:02, 4:38:03]: Huge problem. [4:38:03, 4:38:17]: Uh and then you got two more areas on the south side of North Henry Boulevard, uh area five, you get two very large parcels um that could support perhaps some retail, perhaps some residential on the back. [4:38:19, 4:38:21]: So in terms of potential [4:38:21, 4:38:27]: When I do these things, the first thing that always concerns me is there enough potential to justify this effort? [4:38:27, 4:38:40]: And in the case of Stockbridge there is enough potential. These are very significant numbers. I don't know if you'll be able to achieve them, but they're all predicated on being able to implement the downtown plan. [4:38:40, 4:38:43]: Um if the downtown plan is implemented and it works [4:38:44, 4:38:47]: And you've got new investment down there and it becomes an entertainment district. [4:38:48, 4:38:48]: Um [4:38:49, 4:38:54]: then the other components of the plan are likely to happen if things don't change downtown. [4:38:55, 4:38:56]: It probably won't happen. [4:38:57, 4:39:01]: So this area shown on this map, uh the city asked T SW um [4:39:01, 4:39:03]: To kinda consolidate [4:39:03, 4:39:10]: the earlier studies that were done and just give us a realistic what can this area support physically. [4:39:12, 4:39:15]: In conjunction with the recent market study that was completed [4:39:17, 4:39:22]: W how much square footage and value could this part of the city support? [4:39:23, 4:39:30]: And you know, City Hall is just outside the the map here. It includes the triangle on Ward Street. [4:39:30, 4:39:33]: And it keeps going to the uh to the west. [4:39:33, 4:39:34]: Um [4:39:34, 4:39:45]: to the railroad tracks, to the performing arts center, and kind of looks at potential of the of the Presbyterian I think it's Presbyterian Church, of including that into the plan. [4:39:46, 4:39:55]: Um the city already controls a good amount of this property, obviously not all of it. Uh you're thinking about spending significant amount of money on this performing arts center. [4:39:56, 4:39:59]: Um which would be a catalyst to everything else. [4:39:59, 4:40:06]: But anyway, this whole area is twenty-seven acres. There's only 114,000 square feet of buildings on it today. That includes a shopping center to the south. [4:40:07, 4:40:13]: of North Henry Boulevard. The taxable market value, twenty-seven acres right in the center of your community. [4:40:14, 4:40:16]: is less than six milyen dollars. [4:40:17, 4:40:23]: Now part of that is all your institutions, your government buildings, schools, et cetera, are all concentrated in this area. [4:40:23, 4:40:43]: But it's a very small part of your tax digest. And there's 16 housing units. So we think based on this plan, again, we asked TSW to be realistic physically, what could this area support? You can see these numbers, including new construction, residential units, live work townhomes. [4:40:43, 4:40:55]: homes, conventional townhomes, some single-family cottage units. And again, some of this was in your redevelopment plan going all the way back to 2005, the URA plan. [4:40:56, 4:41:14]: And then it leaves another eighty thousand square feet of of buildings on the periphery that are not part of the plan. It could have a taxable future value of almost eighty-nine million dollars when built out. So from five point nine to eighty eight and a half million dollars. Now it's gonna take a decade. [4:41:14, 4:41:16]: It's probably not all gonna happen. [4:41:16, 4:41:20]: But again, you potentially you could have a thirteen [4:41:20, 4:41:23]: Hundred percent increase in the tax digest in this in this area. [4:41:25, 4:41:31]: The rest we didn't have as much uh support in terms of be able to um look at the potential but [4:41:31, 4:41:32]: Um [4:41:33, 4:41:43]: In these two sites two and three, which I showed on the other map, those total a hundred and seventeen point eight acres. That's a lot of acreage. Again, one's on the east side, one's on the west side of your downtown. [4:41:44, 4:41:48]: There's only seven thousand square feet of buildings. The taxable market value is only two point two million. [4:41:49, 4:41:57]: The current digest is only eighty eighty hundred and ninety-one thousand. The city already owns some of these parcels that you've acquired for the uh extension. [4:41:58, 4:42:01]: and doing a very conservative build out [4:42:01, 4:42:21]: Knowing that there's a lot of wetlands here, basically figured 30% of this land wasn't usable because of wetlands, you could easily do over 460 single-family and townhomes on these combined sites. And looking at average market value of 378, which you probably couldn't build today and sell them for the [4:42:21, 4:42:23]: That um [4:42:25, 4:42:31]: You may have you know, your construction costs would probably be higher than those numbers. But assuming the market levelizes, stabilizes [4:42:31, 4:42:33]: And assuming your downtown plan is built. [4:42:34, 4:42:38]: That's another seventy point nine million dollars in potential digest. [4:42:39, 4:42:41]: So again, if I were in your shoes [4:42:42, 4:42:44]: I would want to see this area. [4:42:45, 4:42:58]: the two largest kind of areas of undeveloped land right on the boundaries of your downtown, develop to their maximum potential as opposed to letting nature take its course, because these new households are what will make your downtown viable. [4:43:00, 4:43:15]: And then sites four, five and four and five would be kind of the last part of the plan. Basically you see downtown happening first, areas two and three happening second. This area of the city would probably be last, maybe six or seven years. Nothing happens for six or seven years except [4:43:15, 4:43:18]: The townhome development you were just talking about tonight. [4:43:19, 4:43:20]: And again, I think we're going to be able [4:43:21, 4:43:28]: Knowing there's wetlands, there's also this mobile home park just to the north, you might want to consider including that in the tad. [4:43:28, 4:43:39]: I just wanted to stay out of, not include the self-storage place, the commercial frontage uh on North Henry Boulevard, which is pretty dense already, it's not gonna change. [4:43:39, 4:43:40]: Um [4:43:40, 4:43:48]: This area could either easily, I mean it's almost 80 acres, so it could easily support another hundred and sixty thousand square feet of commercial. [4:43:49, 4:43:51]: some rehabilitation of existing space. [4:43:52, 4:43:52]: Um [4:43:53, 4:44:01]: Rehabilitating the hundred and twenty-eight existing partn apartment units. Hopefully they would increase in value over time, particularly if you provide incentives for that to happen. [4:44:02, 4:44:06]: New multi family probably on one of the one of these two sites on the south side. [4:44:07, 4:44:08]: Um [4:44:08, 4:44:09]: And again [4:44:10, 4:44:19]: Taxable future value could be ninety-one million. Again, it would take fifteen years to happen, but it's another three hundred percent increase in the digest. [4:44:20, 4:44:27]: So when you add all these things together, the potential is pretty substantial. Whether it happens or not, again. [4:44:28, 4:44:28]: It's [4:44:28, 4:44:31]: Depends on whether the plan is inc implemented. [4:44:31, 4:44:51]: Um so with an a modest allowance for redevelopment in the rest of the TAD, which is again the total TAD is five hundred acres. Those five sites we talked about was about three hundred and forty-five acres. So the rest of the TAD isn't even in these calculations. So hopefully you would see one-off investments in individual buildings and smaller neighbors. [4:44:51, 4:44:52]: Neighborhoods. [4:44:53, 4:44:54]: А овертай. [4:44:55, 4:44:57]: It's a potential over twenty five to thirty years. [4:44:58, 4:45:03]: That there'd be, you know, eighty five to a hundred and ten million in TAD increment over that time period. [4:45:03, 4:45:05]: So this graph kinda shows [4:45:05, 4:45:08]: The total tax collections from all three jurisdictions [4:45:09, 4:45:11]: This green line is the increment [4:45:12, 4:45:17]: The the junk the bulk of the revenues come from the school district, obviously the rest of the county. [4:45:18, 4:45:23]: And I have an allowance for city millage rate. Now I had to make an assumption. [4:45:24, 4:45:32]: So I can make an assumption that the city millage rate for the next thirty years will be zero, or I had to put a number in, I chose two. [4:45:33, 4:45:52]: So again that's a political to me if you don't assume any city millage contribution to the TAD fund, I think that just makes your life more difficult to get county and school is to participate. So I just put it in. If you I can take it out, but it's in there now. [4:45:52, 4:45:55]: Real quick. Well the the the uh public safety [4:45:57, 4:46:05]: element, right, would qualify for that public safety element would be uh approvable uh applicable here. [4:46:07, 4:46:11]: See the one point nine public safety the public has been playing would be applicable here? [4:46:13, 4:46:33]: As a I mean the tech the it says the county's not gonna be collecting it anymore. It could be applicable to today when and tomorrow, yes. The the key is when you talk about the adding that much more activity, that much more residential, your the police department won't look the way it looks today. Right. Right? So obviously the police [4:46:33, 4:46:45]: department is going to be much bigger because your city with everything that's that's already we brought into annexation, what's about to develop, and then you're developing, redeveloping an activity center downtown. [4:46:46, 4:46:53]: Your police department is gonna be much bigger than what it is. Um and the resources needed to sustain it is gonna be it's gonna cost. Right. [4:46:54, 4:47:09]: So anyway, there's again I put in two mills. A two millage rate number applied to thirty-four point nine million in digest would generate about seventy-one thousand in city taxes. [4:47:09, 4:47:29]: pretty small. So uh that wouldn't that pay for one officer maybe and a couple of benefits. So anyway, that's the forecast. The plan requires um that you make estimates in terms of how much TAD revenue could be generated and what it would be used for. [4:47:29, 4:47:29]: [17249.9, 17259.4]: Uh if you take this forecast, these are annualized revenues forecasted out with inflation. This is a cumulative number over thirty years. So [4:47:39, 4:47:42]: In the first ten years it would slowly ramp up. [4:47:42, 4:48:02]: And again, as everything is built out uh and values increase, uh it would it would go from there. So this revenue, particularly you know, twenty to thirty years out, may not be all that helpful to you in terms of being able to leverage it for public improvements or private improvements. [4:48:02, 4:48:07]: So again I discounted that revenue stream and came up with a number of about thirty million dollars. [4:48:08, 4:48:15]: Um if the county and the school district and if the city were to institute a two mil millage rate [4:48:16, 4:48:19]: Which I said by no later than twenty twenty four. [4:48:20, 4:48:40]: Um you potentially could finance thirty million dollars worth of improvements. When I say finance, that could be public financing, that could be pay as you go agreements with private developers, it could mean reimbursing doing you know public works bonds or revenue bonds and using TAD funds as one revenue source to pay that debt service. [4:48:40, 4:49:00]: And this is how I allocated it: 15% for roads and infrastructure improvements, another million as for that's four and a half million, one and a half million for parks and amenities, seven and a half million in contributions to structured parking, which may or may not be necessary, but again, that's it's in there in these numbers. [4:49:00, 4:49:20]: Numbers are likely to change. If you were to think of rental housing rehabilitation as being an eligible activity, you could allocate four and a half million, which rehabilitation of those units would pay back in terms of increased increment. And then reserving. [4:49:20, 4:49:30]: the the lion's year about$12 million as direct incentives for catalyst projects. Those will be numbers you those will be contributions you negotiate with developers. [4:49:30, 4:49:32]: To build things the way you want them built. [4:49:32, 4:49:35]: You pay for quality that you want as part of the plan. [4:49:35, 4:49:47]: And you also have an additional ability because you control so much real estate already that you could contribute that real estate along with TAD incentives to really get a much more valuable [4:49:48, 4:49:49]: Um [4:49:49, 4:49:51]: more menetized [4:49:52, 4:49:54]: development than would be possible otherwise. [4:49:56, 4:50:00]: So again that's the recommended uses. These numbers can change. Um [4:50:00, 4:50:08]: There's no magic to them. And then finally, what else is gonna be in this redevelopment plan? Uh probably the most important thing is the way the way it's drafted now. [4:50:09, 4:50:12]: The city council will retain power as the redevelopment agency. [4:50:12, 4:50:13]: For this plan. [4:50:14, 4:50:18]: for the redevelopment powers law. You have the ability to del delegate implementation [4:50:18, 4:50:38]: Tasks to the DDA or the U Urban Redevelopment Agency as needed, but you are the controlling entity. You're not gonna give that responsibility to a third party and let them make all the decisions and not consult you. That's the way the plan's written now. Other communities have done it differently. Um in Douglas County. [4:50:38, 4:50:57]: County, the Economic Development Agency is the redevelopment agent. The plan has to address consistency with your zoning and future land use map. Based on the discussion tonight, I think that's important. As a requirement, you've got to confirm the city's commitment to follow historic preservation. [4:50:58, 4:51:02]: policies it establishes a potential thirty year life for the Tad. [4:51:02, 4:51:13]: Could go as long as fifty years, I doubt the county and school district would go along. The city could dissolve the TAD at any time prior to thirty years, as long as you don't have outstanding obligations. [4:51:14, 4:51:21]: Uh so if things don't work out, five years, ten years from now, you can you can dissolve this tad. Um [4:51:21, 4:51:41]: And it gives you the way the plan's written, I've given you maximum flexibility to use whatever approaches to finance projects, including issuing bonds, not requiring you to issuing bonds, but just give you maximum flexibility to do respond to any opportunity down the road. And then finally, we have to do a school impact analysis on the Henry County. [4:51:41, 4:52:01]: County schools. Those impacts will be significant if we're talking, you know, close to a thousand units, new construction, rehabilitation. There will be impacts on the schools. They will probably want to negotiate some kind of reduction to their increment. [4:52:01, 4:52:21]: And then finally, all the individual TAD parcels would be included in the appendix. So what happens next? Um, a week from now, you will have the draft redevelopment plan. I basically only have to do the school impact analysis and tweak some things, it's ready to go. The public hearing would be on the twenty ninth. [4:52:21, 4:52:22]: Ninth of November. [4:52:24, 4:52:28]: Uh up until that hearing and even after that hearing you can incorporate changes [4:52:29, 4:52:49]: Uh right now we're anticipating you would vote on this December twelfth. And if you do vote uh on the resolution authorizing the TAD, you would submit a request to the county assessor before the end of the month to certify the accuracy of the TAD parcels, and that goes to the Commissioner Revenue and you should by the end of uh January. [4:52:49, 4:52:58]: Where I get a letter that the TAD is created. And from that point forward till it's dissolved, the County Board of Assessors does a separate TAD digest every year. [4:53:00, 4:53:06]: And then in the first quarter twenty two, you would request consent of the county and school district and negotiate with them. [4:53:08, 4:53:28]: And from that point, once you know what's in the kitty, once you know you know what the terms of participation are, then you have the ability uh to negotiate with developers, offer city owned parcels to the private sector, establish policies, uh, et cetera. Okay. You mean January twenty twenty three at [4:53:28, 4:53:47]: First quarter twenty twenty three, right? Yes. Okay. I'm sorry, yeah, that's a typo obvious. Okay. So yeah, first quarter. Um those negotiations have gone anywhere, in my experience, from you know, one night to eighteen months. So um and I think that's it. [4:53:49, 4:54:09]: We will do an abbreviated version of this presentation for the public hearing, so you'll see it again. And again, any input you may have, uh you have you know you basically have another month if you between now and voting on the resolution to make changes. Uh but you'll have the draft next. [4:54:09, 4:54:13]: Next week. [4:54:14, 4:54:15]: Basically this is what it's gonna say. [4:54:16, 4:54:28]: I appreciate the brief. So what uh appreciate a lot of information. I gotta I personally gotta let this sink in. Uh but otherwise tonight you n you need this a motion for us to go forward or or you just this is just information for us here tonight? [4:54:28, 4:54:34]: So tonight you guys we we will ask for and if I can go back hearing. [4:54:35, 4:54:37]: The for us to have the uh [4:54:39, 4:54:44]: Public hearing? Right. On the twenty ninth. On the twenty ninth. [4:54:45, 4:55:05]: I think we went two far back. Yes. So for us to hold a hearing on the public night one um and the adoption on the twelfth, we'll go ahead and advertise those dates, um, put them in the papers and advertise those dates, and then um we'll bring the um public hearing announce the ordinances in place for us to adopt the plan. [4:55:05, 4:55:06]: Mm. [4:55:06, 4:55:08]: Um on the twelfth. [4:55:08, 4:55:12]: Okay. So we don't have to vote tonight. Yeah. Oh not oh [4:55:12, 4:55:17]: Unless you just want us well, do we have to vote for them to to choose the base? I get it. [4:55:17, 4:55:19]: No, to choose the dates. Um [4:55:20, 4:55:22]: November twenty ninth, twenty. [4:55:22, 4:55:42]: twenty two um and uh december twelfth, twenty twenty two uh as our public hearing and adoption. You just want a motion to accept this adoption process, I suppose. Stand stand by please, Ms. Gantt. Yes, what's the question, sir? Um [4:55:43, 4:55:50]: W what is it what what's the difference in doing it on the twenty ninth versus doing it the first meeting in January? [4:55:51, 4:56:11]: Well, if you wait till January C said, it kicks you another year in the case. Oh, okay. Okay. This if this process is done in twenty twenty three and we get an agreement from the school board, we can then start using those funds. If you don't do it that way, you'll have to wait until twenty twenty four before you get it. But here's the thing. Do you have to have [4:56:11, 4:56:19]: Have because you started the process, do you have to have um the school board has to give us a yes before the end of the year? [4:56:21, 4:56:41]: No, negotiations can go into next year. Um yeah, it's too late to start that process. Some communities have tried it and succeeded. Uh they've adopted the plans early enough and gotten the school districts to go on board. Um but they cannot act they cannot act, they cannot vote on anything until [4:56:41, 4:57:00]: Until the redevelopment plan is approved and you adopt your resolution and the TAD is in place. So unfortunately, I mean you're at risk. You go through all this effort and they could say, you know, no, we're not gonna participate. The county could say, no, we're not gonna participate. But [4:57:00, 4:57:02]: Yeah, that's the way it the way it's written. [4:57:02, 4:57:22]: No, I got but what I'm saying is that so but so they can't hinder the process once we start it with the with the recommended days to have a hearing. No. Since the process already started, don't matter what they say, that we don't have to wait. But if they say yes, then we already in the process. Correct. Yeah. You would you would adopt the plan and then they [4:57:22, 4:57:42]: They would act upon it. I would not, I would suggest as a as a courtesy, um, you know, the plan will be ready next Monday. Uh you could send drafts to, you know, County Commission, School, Board of Education, at least the staff members of those organizations, and tell them, you know, Stockbridge has its draft. [4:57:42, 4:57:50]: I think they know now. [4:57:51, 4:58:06]: For some reason I think they know now. Yeah. I will tell you that the county does know. I I hadn't a chance to speak to a school board, but I've spoken to the county manager about this um back in September, so they're aware that we're we're working on this process. [4:58:07, 4:58:23]: Okay. It questions down this way? Just uh very briefly. The one thing that I wanna highlight on is that our our housing. A hundred and s uh nineteen sixty six is what you said, right? We talk a lot about affordable housing, but [4:58:24, 4:58:44]: We are missing m medium price housing. We need to elevate the housing prices here uh in this particular area to qu quality development, four hundred, five hundred thousand dollar homes in the area that we have none of at this present time. That's what came back in the Georgia Tech study for the DDA. [4:58:44, 4:58:51]: is that we were missing that component, uh especially in this area, which was quality homes. Absolutely. [4:58:51, 4:59:09]: And that's what you know, communities are selectively using these incentives to get developers to pay for quality that they couldn't afford otherwise. Um and you and you really have to look at it that way. Um it's not a giveaway to developers, you're using it as a negotiating tool to get what you want. [4:59:09, 4:59:16]: Um to implement your downtown plan and then to get quality of development around your downtown that makes everything work. [4:59:17, 4:59:17]: Mm-hmm. [4:59:18, 4:59:30]: Okay, the questions go ahead please, sir. Uh I I wanna get a better map, um, especially on the other side of uh North Hendry Boulevard. [4:59:32, 4:59:46]: Okay. I'll give that to you by two more. Yeah. I just wanna see that my protein you're talking about? Yeah, I I wanna I wanna see how deep I see what City Hall is, but I just wanna see [4:59:46, 4:59:47]: Street names and [4:59:47, 5:00:06]: Yeah, I just wanna see how deep does it go uh on the other side of North Henry Boulevard. I I I get that on the on the right side near the where the cultural arts uh site is. I I mean I get that, the Presbyterian, but I wanna see the other side of uh North Henry Boulevard. [5:00:07, 5:00:07]: Okay. [5:00:08, 5:00:28]: I think you know there's a reasonable justification since you're investing all this money in parks to include maybe some parcels down here. And possibly, you know, you've got a pretty sizable mobile home park up here. Um so it could take a second look at you know what's north of this area. [5:00:28, 5:00:38]: area four. Those are really the only two things that stood out to me as potential additions. Uh you run into the city limits a little bit further south and north, so [5:00:41, 5:00:42]: Okay. Any other questions? [5:00:44, 5:00:46]: I don't have a question. I'd like to make a motion. [5:00:51, 5:00:53]: Yeah, you would originally go and make a motion. [5:00:54, 5:01:04]: Oh. I second. Okay. Can't to uh Barber. Any further discussion? All favor please indicate. [5:01:04, 5:01:07]: Okay. Unanimous decision. Yes, sir. You good? [5:01:07, 5:01:11]: Well I I know a a recommendation for the dates. [5:01:11, 5:01:15]: They're they're already on here. Okay. They're the the dates are already on here. Okay. [5:01:15, 5:01:21]: Okay. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. We look forward to uh getting that uh document, I guess, uh within the next week. [5:01:21, 5:01:23]: All right. Thank you. [5:01:24, 5:01:37]: Council consideration to authorize the city of Stockbridge to publish a notice of intake uh to take action to increase the annual compensation. The mayor from fourteen four to twenty two, city council members twelve to [5:01:37, 5:01:38]: Twenty. [5:01:38, 5:01:42]: Effect of January one, uh, twenty twenty four. Mr. Washington, please. [5:01:45, 5:01:46]: Make it quick, y'all. [5:01:51, 5:02:11]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. I was asked to assist in the drafting of the resolution for the notice for pay increases for you all. And so I drafted it for your consideration. And the precedent to that is to get the approval from you all to be able to post it in the paper, et cetera, to go from there. And so [5:02:11, 5:02:24]: up to you all to decide what was proposed, but the proposal that I had came from you all and it's up for your consideration. So thank you. Mayor. Yes sir. Is there a public hearing or anything attached to this? Um [5:02:25, 5:02:30]: No probab no uh no public uh publish a notice of intent. Uh [5:02:32, 5:02:35]: Okay. I just want to go ahead and make the motion for approval. [5:02:36, 5:02:37]: Okay. I have a question. [5:02:38, 5:02:40]: All right. [5:02:40, 5:02:47]: You said the uh everyt came f it came from the this came everything came from the council? Yes. [5:02:47, 5:02:54]: I'm I'm not aware of these numbers or anything. So when you say it came from the council, who did it what do you mean it came from the council? [5:02:54, 5:02:55]: Uh Councilman Thomas. [5:02:58, 5:02:59]: Okay. [5:03:00, 5:03:08]: Any further discussion. Okay, you wanna make a if if not, you wanna make a motion, sir? Motion to approve recomm the recommendation written by the city attorney. [5:03:08, 5:03:15]: Okay, zero second. Okay, Member Portem second that. Any further discussion? Yes. All right, go ahead please. [5:03:15, 5:03:31]: Um, one of the things I look at at this council is that when we talk about all these expenditures that we have at hand at hand right now, we have not yet formulated or have in hand anything that's showing us a path forward. [5:03:32, 5:03:35]: and our expenditure for s sustainability for the city. [5:03:36, 5:03:49]: Um and we've got s uh capital improvement projects on board. We've got all these monies that are going out. We gotta increase our police department, we've got increase services. All of these things with expenditures that we have out. [5:03:51, 5:03:55]: And none of us have anything in hand to show us our path forward. [5:03:57, 5:04:03]: tangible information showing our path forward. All I know is what I've been told. [5:04:04, 5:04:08]: Nothing in hand and what I know what our financial advisor told us. [5:04:08, 5:04:17]: And so now they come at this time right now for a raise when we have no idea where all the money's gonna come from as it is for the expenditures that are already out there. [5:04:19, 5:04:20]: I say no. [5:04:20, 5:04:22]: Okay, any further discussion? [5:04:23, 5:04:25]: Okay, if no further discussion, all in favor of the motion please indicate? [5:04:27, 5:04:28]: Okay, all polls? [5:04:29, 5:04:29]: Abstain. [5:04:30, 5:04:33]: Okay, so it's three one one. Motion passed. [5:04:34, 5:04:50]: Okay. And the next item uh dealt with um uh looking at having a um a volunteer uh luncheon or dinner, I guess, for citiz says uh citizens volunteers for the past year. And Mayor Pro Tem you wanna discuss that please? [5:04:50, 5:04:54]: Yeah, um originally we made a motion to put it on here, James. [5:04:55, 5:05:14]: Right. And now I want to motion uh for council to authorize the reallocation of the 2022 Halloween event finding that for Ariel King Heritage Trail. [5:05:16, 5:05:25]: Okay. So let me go back. Yeah, yes, sir. Well to do what? That's the motion, but I I elaborate uh during the discussion. [5:05:25, 5:05:27]: Okay, motion's been made. Zero seconds to the motion. [5:05:28, 5:05:32]: Second. Okay. Mr. Alzheimer's second ask. Okay, discussion phase, sir. Go ahead, please. [5:05:35, 5:05:45]: As you know, Mr. Alexander, um you make the motion and the council approving um uh uh breaking out. [5:05:46, 5:06:02]: Stop my mic on, I'm sorry. Um Mr. Alexander, you made a motion for the Main Street program to um plan a Halloween event on ML King Harris's trail. [5:06:02, 5:06:04]: Discounted approved. [5:06:04, 5:06:24]: Um but it it did not happen. So those are the funds that I'm asking council to reallocate for uh the volunteer uh dinner. Um as we all know, you know, we have a a number of um [5:06:24, 5:06:40]: board members, volunteers, that always meet the challenge and the call when we reach out to them. And I think they really serve us well as far as volunteering. And I think it's only fitting [5:06:40, 5:06:42]: during the holiday season. [5:06:42, 5:07:02]: To show them exactly how much uh we appreciate them in volunteering and serving on the various boards. So, but again, the funding sources would be those funds that were earmarked for um M.L. King Heritage Trail, which uh did not happen. [5:07:02, 5:07:03]: [18424.8, 18425.3]: Okay. [5:07:06, 5:07:07]: Any further conversation? [5:07:08, 5:07:26]: And what I recall, Mayor Pro Tem, this is for Saturday, December tenth. Um I'm s yes. Um in the original motion I did indicate and I checked with um the Merrmanners Conference Center calendar. So December the tenth uh is available. [5:07:26, 5:07:28]: Okay. [5:07:29, 5:07:33]: No further discussion. All in favor of the motion, please any I'm sorry. What's the amount of the funds you were talking about? [5:07:33, 5:07:38]: ten thousand. Ten thousand. What's the month? Ten thousand that I think they had allocated. Ten thousand. [5:07:40, 5:07:43]: Say ten thousand is what I've been told. I'd like that to be put in a motion, please. [5:07:44, 5:08:03]: I would like that to be put into motion, please. Well, you have okay. Um I am my motion to add the dollar amount of ten thousand dollars, which was approved by this council, to uh for the main street. [5:08:03, 5:08:23]: Um well f for the ML King Harris senior trail for a Halloween uh event and it was in the amount of uh ten thousand that was um motioned and approved. Okay. I I I second that and uh say that uh we made the right choice. [5:08:23, 5:08:28]: Miss Cant, you did a good job on your Halloween event. It wasn't necessary for this event. [5:08:29, 5:08:49]: All right, good deal. All right, so that's been added to that motion. So all in favor of the motion, please indicate? I do have um is that a comment I wanted to well, I wanted to ask Mayor Pro Tem Thomas. Initially I spoke about a employee volunteer appreciation dinner for the holidays. Will this also include employees? [5:08:49, 5:08:51]: [18531.6, 18533.6]: Uh uh. [5:08:54, 5:08:56]: For employee and volunteer. [5:09:00, 5:09:01]: Not just volunteer. [5:09:04, 5:09:05]: Okay. [5:09:06, 5:09:23]: I'm I'm sorry. The employees have two dinners already. I'm not saying that don't invite them, but we already have we have two dinners set aside and then they get a bonus check during Thanksgiving. Oh they get Ms. They get the check and they get the two dinners. [5:09:24, 5:09:44]: I'm sorry, not bonus, but you know. Well they they don't get a bonus. Okay. Okay. They don't get a check. Hold on. Hold on a second. What I wanna what I wanna be cautious of is the when you say it to staff and employees, I don't [5:09:44, 5:09:51]: I don't know how many employees we have, maybe seventy five. Too many. [5:09:53, 5:10:02]: A hundred well, we have a hundred and fifty employees. Um and I'm working on the numbers of the boards and the volunteers, so [5:10:04, 5:10:05]: Ha ha ha. [5:10:05, 5:10:13]: My thinking is we may need to because we're talking about the board members, the volunteers and their plus one. [5:10:14, 5:10:27]: So I don't want this to really just get out of hand. I want us to be able to manage the numbers. Gotcha. And and and and be honest with you, we may not even need to use the whole ten. [5:10:27, 5:10:28]: Okay. [5:10:28, 5:10:28]: Mm. [5:10:29, 5:10:42]: I just want us to to do it and and Mr. Alexander in your motion, um I I'm fine. I'm fine with that. Well good. So we we gotta understand. Okay, so let's try this again. All favorite motion, please indicate. [5:10:43, 5:10:47]: Okay, all okay. So you pull okay, it's five. Dynamics decision. All right. [5:10:49, 5:11:09]: Announcements and upcoming events. Council meetings will be held in City Council chambers, meeting dates, location, times are subject to change. Please visit the city website at uh www.citystarbridge dot com for the meeting invitation. Link, Facebook page of contact city offices at seven seven zero three eight nine seventy nine hundred for updates. [5:11:09, 5:11:29]: Citywide Development Authority meeting 6 p.m. by way of Zoom, third Tuesday of each month, November 15th. You council advisory committee meeting 6:30, third through third Tuesday of each month. Levi meeting room city hall November 15th. Planning Commission meeting fourth Thursday at 6:30 p.m. City Hall Council. [5:11:29, 5:11:38]: Chambers November 17th. City Council Work Session Meeting Tuesday, 6 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers, November 29th. [5:11:38, 5:11:58]: Main Street Advisory Board Meeting second Friday of each month, 9 a.m. City Levi, City Hall, Levi Meeting Room, December 9th. City Council meeting, second Monday of each month, City Hall, Council Chambers, December 12th. And U Council meeting 6:30, second Monday of each month. So City Hall Levi Meeting Room. And that's the City Hall on December. [5:11:58, 5:12:18]: Number twelve. Now um I I do have one correction when you get to that point. Okay. A continued salute to uh veterans, please forward uh pictures of veterans, including name, branch, rank, and years of service as Mayor Pro Tem Thomas presents a special tribute to our local veterans. Pictures should be submitted to Rosam Raw. [5:12:18, 5:12:38]: Rawls at R. Rawls at City of Stockbridge dash G A dot G-O-V and thank you for your service. Please join Councilwoman Barber for a free zoom on every Saturday morning at Clark Park, Clark Community Park, 8 a.m. Come out for your fitness in the park. The City of Stockbridge will be distributing free turkeys while [5:12:38, 5:12:58]: Supplies last on Saturday, November 19th, at Merrill Manos Conference Center parking lot 10 a.m. to 1 p.m. Mary Portin Thomas and the Henry County Fire Department will be distributing free smoke detectors by supplies last on Saturday, November 19th, in the parking lot at Merrill Manos Conference Center from 10 a.m. to 12. [5:12:58, 5:13:00]: twelve noon. Correction. Okay. [5:13:02, 5:13:16]: Okay. Correction Glacier. Um the Henry County Pol fire department will not be participating. Um Wales will be um participating. [5:13:16, 5:13:17]: Okay. [5:13:17, 5:13:37]: All right. And uh join Mayor Ford for his monthly meet the mayor on Monday, November twenty-eighth from ten AM to twelve noon. Please contact Rosland Rawls to schedule an in-person appointment. R Rawls at city of stopbridge dash G dot Gov or call six seven eight-eight three three three three four eight. Please [5:13:37, 5:13:57]: Please join the City of Star Breach for the annual holiday festival featuring Santa and Mrs. Claus and live nativity scene, live entertainment, inflatables, rides and DJing food trucks on Thursday, December first, from five PM to nine PM at the Stockbridge Amphitheater parking lot. Please join the City of Star Breach for the Annual Holiday Festival. [5:13:57, 5:14:17]: Wait a minute, that's a duplicate there. Okay. Bingle is back. Please join Councilman Blount on Wednesday, December 7th, from 10 a.m. to 12 noon at Merylman's Conference Center for lots of fun. And my particular comments for today would be first thing, congratulations to the additional citizens. [5:14:17, 5:14:23]: citizens that citizen that voted to annex into the city on November eighth. Fantastic. [5:14:23, 5:14:43]: Uh I would say that that you'll you'll be proud citizens, that uh we protected and served you well and uh you'll be happy for the rest of your living days while you're in the city of living Stockbridge that you're a member of the Stockbridge City uh government or m members of City uh City of Stockbridge. So it's up to us to to listen to you and and continue to have uh [5:14:43, 5:15:03]: uh do good things for you in this process and have open dialogue in this aspect. So congratulations and thank you for voting. That's come becomes effective one uh one January. And obviously you'll get uh each individual council member will have a specific uh council chambers, uh council um uh districts in this aspect as well so you'll get familiar with [5:15:03, 5:15:23]: With the particular uh council members that will represent your Pacific district in this aspect. So fantastic. Um mayor forward. Yes, sir. Um I'd like to also extend an invitation to uh Chief Chairman and the Stockbridge Police Department. Chief, you may recall uh [5:15:23, 5:15:25]: Um [5:15:25, 5:15:34]: Last year at Smith Barney Elementary School, um, you all assisted in the um Smoke Alarm giveaway. [5:15:34, 5:15:36]: So um [5:15:37, 5:15:57]: You you know, you can you can contact me, see if that's something that uh some of y you and your officers may want to do. It would be on the very same day that we will be doing the turkey giveaway and we'll just be on the far end uh of the line giving away the uh smoke alarm. But uh you can let me know if this [5:15:57, 5:16:00]: something that you know you wanna get involved in. [5:16:02, 5:16:22]: And prayers and condolences to the family members who actually uh unfortunately perished in a home fire that's located uh here in Stockbridge. It's well documented with on the news and uh local newspaper and and and television in this aspect. So prayers to that family and congratulations uh to the Henry County Sheriff Department for capturing [5:16:21, 5:16:41]: uh an individual that uh was uh evading their um invading them of course but come do but they found him due to the fact that uh course he had uh killed and shot uh someone so congratulations to them as well. Um happy belated veterans day to all the veterans. Um uh we had a great uh Veterans Day activity a couple of days ago. [5:16:41, 5:17:00]: um actually on Friday, and so congratulations and continue to uh let us continue to serve in your community as best as you can. Um the other thing I'd like to mention is that uh as you well know that Michael Harris, a Stockbridge resident, Stockbridge High School graduate, is up for National League Rookie of the Year. [5:17:01, 5:17:06]: It hasn't been determined yet that I know of, but uh his his actual competition, believe it or not, is another Atlanta Brave. [5:17:06, 5:17:07]: It's also a rookie. [5:17:08, 5:17:19]: uh strider, I believe his name is. So but we'll see what happens here when they make the final selection. So one way or the other we got to get Michael Harris up here and to the city council and honor him as well. [5:17:19, 5:17:31]: And ladies and gentlemen, as you well know, that uh uh you voted on November eighth and uh we now have a uh runoff election between Senator Warnock and uh Herschel Walker. [5:17:31, 5:17:34]: So early voting starts on uh the uh [5:17:34, 5:17:35]: Monday. [5:17:36, 5:17:56]: Uh November twenty-eighth. Uh so it's your constitutional right to uh vote. So hopefully you are registered and uh you go vote and uh it's your constitutional right once again, and of course it's your civic duty. And uh we shall see what happens when uh after we we have this uh runoff results. Uh so [5:17:56, 5:18:03]: Well God bless y'all. That's all I have for tonight. And uh counsel, need to ask you whether or not we're gonna go into executive session or not. [5:18:06, 5:18:07]: Mm-hmm. [5:18:07, 5:18:27]: I know. If it's not gonna go to second session, then uh So legal does have a request for executive session and we have some uh guidelines we like for you all to follow if we do go into executive session because you all be able to remain on the DS tonight for it. And we we've talked with IT and security about turning off the cameras and the microphones. [5:18:27, 5:18:33]: And they would secure the doors from the outside and not be in here so that way we'd have space and we did this. [5:18:34, 5:18:35]: All right, so [5:18:35, 5:18:40]: I okay, so uh why I need a motion to go to the second session, uh if that is the case, we will do so. [5:18:41, 5:18:45]: And we'll take a break for y'all to get, you know, something to eat, but then we'll come back in here and do it. [5:18:48, 5:18:58]: Need a motion to go into it. Motion to go in the mayor. Uhhuh. Motion to go in the you wanna make motion. Okay, you motion for the so it's gonna be personal, legal and and real estate. Yes, sir. [5:19:02, 5:19:04]: Oh, and there is one real there is one real estate item too. [5:19:05, 5:19:14]: All right. So are we secure? Real estate and personnel, yeah. That once we tell them they know how to do they have a proceeding in place for securing the room for you all to be stay where you are. [5:19:16, 5:19:23]: Let's just l no break, let's just go on straight in. Let's go ahead and move through. Okay. [5:19:24, 5:19:26]: Uh the Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, put your motion, please sir. [5:19:27, 5:19:31]: Executive session for personnel real estate. [5:19:32, 5:19:33]: Litigation. [5:19:35, 5:19:40]: And litigation, sir. Is there a second? Second. Okay, all in favor, please indicate. [5:19:40, 5:19:41]: All right. [5:19:42, 5:19:44]: We will go into second session. Okay. [5:19:46, 5:19:46]: [19187.2, 19196.0]: They're gonna go ahead and turn the camera they're gonna turn the cameras off. We're not gonna be live streaming and we're gonna turn the mics off as well. So they won't be able to hear outside security leaving man the doors from the outside. [5:20:09, 5:20:10]: Yeah. [5:20:24, 5:20:26]: Everything off now. [5:20:27, 5:20:28]: Is everything off? [5:20:29, 5:20:30]: There came out.

--- title: Work Session Meeting date: 2022-10-25 source: 2022-10-25_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:04:15, 0:04:15]: Yeah. [0:04:17, 0:04:37]: So I don't have to out of it. Besides that, I got a presscast alwarnus problemation here as well. Oh, that's okay. All right, they're confused for a second. Okay. So what I have here is a problemation for L D T Q plus history one. So anybody that that that wants to receive [0:04:36, 0:04:42]: proclamation or stand with the council you can do so at this time as I read this particular proclamation. [0:04:55, 0:05:15]: Thank you for joining us. Appreciate it. I want to give you back to the rest of the same way. Once again, the population city stock is good, recognition of LGBTQ plus history month. Whereas LGBTQ plus history month is in October of each year. [0:05:15, 0:05:35]: We marketed this spectacular event celebrating the history and achievements of the LGBTQ Plus community. When the observance was started, it mainly served as a call to action for the movement and its prosperity. But over the years, the LGBTQ Plus History Month has evolved into a national blind random effort to bring an extraordinary [0:05:35, 0:05:40]: I think we see one of L G V T U plus community to the spotlight. [0:05:40, 0:06:00]: And whereas everyone deserves to be treated with dignity, respect, compassion, and justice regardless of gender, age, race, religion, economic status, and sexual orientation. And whereas the city of Stockholm supports the rights of every individual to experience equality of treatment and values, our diverse population are less. [0:06:00, 0:06:20]: Bitnesses, visitors recognizing that this diversity is one of this community's greatest strengths. Whereas in recognition of the important contributions that LGGTQ plus individuals and groups have made to our city, to the arts, economics, and business, education, government, sports, medicine, law, journalism, science, and technical. [0:06:19, 0:06:39]: Technology and so many other fields, all of which have made us a better, richer, stronger community. Now, therefore, I am this war members of the Lord investing as a merit city scarcely Georgia. And on behalf of City Council members, Alexander, Bob McCoff, you can and follow the top food here by proclaim October has [0:06:42, 0:07:01]: I'm encouraged all residents to celebrate and reflect on the diverse heritage of our once marginalized community and continue to strengthen and enrich our city as describes and create a society that is more just, peaceful, and prosperous, prosperous to be before all. Witness thereof I have here unto step my hand. [0:07:01, 0:07:06]: Based on the city stock we're doing, conflict day of top here about lower. [0:07:08, 0:07:09]: That's a holiday. [0:07:14, 0:07:19]: Yeah, I have several here. Uh uh [0:07:21, 0:07:37]: We can have your own as well. And actually, Ben, if you want to add two uh three more. Okay, all right, all right. So on that note, uh when we do this, uh we have comments. So what comments you want to make? The floor is yours. [0:07:38, 0:07:45]: Well I just wanna say like told Councilman Parton that uh the city of Startbridge has always been problematic. [0:07:48, 0:07:52]: Any of them I've ever attended a welcome and [0:07:57, 0:07:58]: Yeah. [0:08:05, 0:08:05]: Okay. [0:08:10, 0:08:13]: It's cute. Uh [0:08:39, 0:08:59]: We'll go to it. I have this story because this is the very first time we've done a since these operations I imagine it will continue to be every October we will announce this uh this particular month. So all right. Uh we've probably taken pictures. Sure, we could if we if you want uh we got it coming on. [0:08:59, 0:09:04]: But we've got to come on one side because Council, you wanna come on down this way? [0:09:05, 0:09:09]: You put it together here? [0:09:11, 0:09:15]: Yeah, well come on, the spot is one of the [0:09:19, 0:09:22]: So I'm not paying any green. [0:09:25, 0:09:26]: Is that forward you might want to set that? [0:09:40, 0:09:57]: Yeah. [0:09:57, 0:09:59]: Okay. [0:10:18, 0:10:38]: Okay, what is next on the agenda is a presentation of the new online tool, Citizens Connect, which allows citizens of the city of Stockbridge to search crimes and incidents in the community, presented by uh Chief Tramor. And and uh Chief Trammer, right. I guess Mr. Goffrey's not gonna be with you tonight, sir. Uh no, sir. Okay. Okay. [0:10:37, 0:10:43]: me this evening. I see. Um but I think I can manage his solo. I'm pretty sure you can, Chief. No problem. [0:10:43, 0:11:03]: Can somebody administer the air conditioning? Okay, well, um hopefully, uh Mayor and Council, you all can see this on your screen. I appreciate the opportunity to present this valuable tool to you this evening, but most importantly, this presentation is really for the citizens of the city of Stockbridge. Uh we made a commitment uh to really be a model for 21st century policing, and one of the pillars of 21st century policy [0:11:03, 0:11:23]: century policing is building trust and legitimacy with the community. And one of the ways that we do that is being transparent in how we operate and transparent in how we act. And the two this presentation and also the initiative that we have before council this evening for the Citizens Police Advisory Council are two such initiatives that demonstrate our commitment to transparency with the community that we serve. [0:11:24, 0:11:26]: А the Citizen Connect amp [0:11:26, 0:11:36]: is a forward facing application is connected directly to our law enforcement database which will allow members of our community to visualize uh crime that's occurring in the community. [0:11:36, 0:11:46]: And will also allow members of the community to also visualize uh what our officers are doing, where they're spending their time, where they're responding to instances incidents. [0:11:47, 0:12:06]: Um for those who are interested in downloading the uh application or downloading, it's not really an application, it's a web-based platform. Uh you can find the link on our Facebook page, the Stockbridge Police Department Facebook page, but at the end of this presentation, I'm also going to share that link so that members of the community are able to copy that information down and uh to [0:12:07, 0:12:14]: hopefully uh by virtue of this presentation this evening give members of the community a better understanding in terms of how this system operates. [0:12:15, 0:12:35]: And so I wanted to demonstrate this for you. It's called Citizens Connect because Stockbridge is a place where community connects. And so we wanted to connect our citizens with the data inside our police department. As you can see here on the screen, there's an overlay of the map with the city limits of the city of Stockbridge. You can zoom in and out of this map to view, and as you see on here, there's no [0:12:35, 0:12:37]: data that's currently represented on this map, it's blank. [0:12:37, 0:12:40]: And that's because we haven't selected the filters that we want to see. [0:12:41, 0:12:45]: If you notice at the top portion here, Stockbridge is divided into four geographic sectors. [0:12:46, 0:13:05]: We have officers assigned consistently to those four geographic sectors. If you look here, we have sector 1901, and when we click on 1901 here, you can see this is the area represented by Sector 1901. So if citizens want to know what sector am I in in, what officers work in that area, then they're able to visualize that data here. [0:13:05, 0:13:20]: Uh sector nineteen oh two is this area here, so you can visualize that where you're located. Sector nineteen oh three is situated here and then sector nineteen oh four is if we click off that is situated in the very southern part of the city. [0:13:21, 0:13:25]: Now I'll click off of these map layers for just a second to be able to illustrate uh [0:13:26, 0:13:33]: The information here. So members of the community, if they're interested in seeing, let's say, crime data, they want to see what are the crimes that are occurring in our community. [0:13:34, 0:13:35]: Uh what they would have to do there's [0:13:36, 0:13:42]: In the lower left hand portion here a section that says date range and you'll notice it's selected right now the past week. [0:13:42, 0:14:02]: So we can select whatever range we want. We can do a custom date range in here. You can enter your own series of dates, or you can select the pre-populated. So let's just look at crime data for the last month. So we've selected here the date range for the past month. And there are three categories in the lower left-hand corner. The first one is incidents. Now, incidents are calls that often [0:14:02, 0:14:15]: So if an officer pulls out on a traffic stop, if they respond to a burglar alarm or something along those lines where there's not a report that's taken, that would be represented by incidents. [0:14:15, 0:14:32]: If an officer actually takes a report, if there's a crime that's committed, um or a report is generated by virtue of their response to an incident, it's going to be reflected as a case. And so you would collect the the case portion. And of course accidents are pretty self explanatory. If we click on that we can see where the accidents are occurring in the city. [0:14:32, 0:14:40]: So let's focus here for just a second on cases which are gonna represent crimes that are occurring in the city. So we're looking at this data and we're visualizing it for the past month. [0:14:41, 0:14:55]: If you click, it's difficult to see here, but there's a grayed out check mark next to cases. If you were to click that, what it's going to do is it's going to pull up for you all of the cases that have occurred in the city within the last month, and you're going to be able to see on here. [0:14:55, 0:15:15]: Where those incidents are occurring. So every one of these scale icons right here represent an incident in which a report was taken. So if you're interested in seeing what additional details, so what was this incident that happened here? You hover over it, it's going to tell you that this is a report regarding a runaway. If we go down here, this was an aggravated assault case that occurred here. [0:15:15, 0:15:22]: If you click over here, it's gonna tell you this was a missing person's case. So this represents all the reports that officers are taking on a regular basis. [0:15:23, 0:15:43]: If you see something like this, it's represented by two. It lets you know that there are two incidents that occurred at that particular location. If you click on the pin, it's going to expand it, and then you can see uh what those two incidents were. So you can see that there was a runaway and a missing person. Um and for privacy of members of the community, we don't include the actual address, so it's represented in the actual [0:15:43, 0:15:48]: block number when we're talking about residential areas. So you can see here where these crimes are occurring. [0:15:49, 0:16:09]: Now, if you're interested to know, for example, what's occurring in your community, so let's look for an e i is an example here. We have Monarch Village in this area represented right here. You can see in the last uh month that there were four or actually there were six incidents. Uh we had a hit and run accident, we had a forgery for [0:16:08, 0:16:09]: Broad [0:16:10, 0:16:29]: There was a theft, a terroristic threat, and then uh there was an identity theft and another theft that occurred in the last month in this area here. One of the interesting things, and I think a valuable tool for members of our community is once you sign up for an account, what you can do is you can actually go up here and you can create an alert. [0:16:30, 0:16:43]: Uh you can name it whatever you want to. You can decide what the frequency is that you want to receive these alerts. If you want to receive them daily, you want to receive them weekly, you can receive them monthly, you can select to do that. So uh we'll just title this uh my crime. [0:16:44, 0:16:47]: Data and I want to see it daily. So it selected that. [0:16:48, 0:16:53]: So when we click this alert here, what it's gonna do is it's going to [0:16:53, 0:16:54]: I've got a [0:16:55, 0:17:02]: draw the alert and so when you click draw you can basically put a pin and draw around this whole community here. [0:17:07, 0:17:13]: And then you have to take it back up to the beginning point to close the loop. And so when it's in red, it's going to show you now you have an alert drawn around this area here. [0:17:14, 0:17:21]: So anything that happens within this area right here, you're gonna get a daily alert every time there's a new incident that occurs. [0:17:21, 0:17:30]: Now these are just incidents. So these are reports that officers have taken. But if you want to see the activity, if you want to see what officers are doing, where they're spending their time, what you can also do is you can click incidents. [0:17:31, 0:17:51]: And you can see when we click incidence, you're gonna see that these are all calls that officers have responded to in this community. So when citizens say, Well, I never see an officer in the community, well, in the past three months, every one of these phone calls, every one of these numbers here represent a time that an officer was in that particular community. When you click on it, you're also going to be able to notate on there the time. So they were on a disturbance call. [0:17:51, 0:17:58]: There, September twenty-eighth at six forty-seven in the evening. You'll be able to see that detail off to the right hand side. Um [0:17:59, 0:18:09]: You you'll see on here also that here we're probably gonna see, you know, a traffic stop. That they made a traffic stop out in front of here. And this is just this community, but if you zoom out here [0:18:10, 0:18:12]: And we reset this alert. [0:18:13, 0:18:16]: To include the entire city, you can see in the last month. [0:18:16, 0:18:18]: That in the top here [0:18:19, 0:18:25]: Офіцер responded to one thousand seven hundred and twenty nine incidents in the city. [0:18:25, 0:18:37]: and sixty three uh incidents in which a report was taken. So that's what that data represents. And you can see um the types of calls here. You can click on those. It's gonna tell you um [0:18:39, 0:18:52]: Well, I don't know why it did that exactly. Uh that there were twenty two domestic instances and it's gonna give you information on, you know, where these dem well no, those are traffic stops. I apologize. It's traffic stops. It's gonna tell you where these traffic stops occurred. [0:18:53, 0:18:57]: Now if you just wanna see specifics, let's say for instance you are [0:18:59, 0:19:00]: Let's [0:19:01, 0:19:05]: Yeah, I think we had a I think we had a uh I think we had a glitch here. [0:19:05, 0:19:11]: But let's say we want to look at the cases in the last um [0:19:11, 0:19:13]: Month that we had here. [0:19:14, 0:19:34]: And we go down to the area of the Walmart at Hudson Bridge. You're gonna see this is the Walmart. You can see there were five shoplifting cases that we responded to. And as you can see, our numbers in shoplifting have gone down considerably based on the um uh the processes that we've developed with Walmart. So we've been able to reduce some of those instances, but you can see. [0:19:34, 0:19:38]: See here there are eight incidents, um five of those shoplifting and the first time. [0:19:38, 0:19:41]: Some other miscellaneous incidents entering auto general information. [0:19:42, 0:19:48]: And then if you want to scroll out, you can see and visualize where these incidents are happening incidents are happening across the city. [0:19:48, 0:20:08]: Another thing we do as it relates to traffic enforcement. We want to make sure that we're responding smartly, that we're enforcing the traffic law appropriately in the areas that need to be enforced. And so when we click on accidents, this is going to show you the locations where we've had accident reports taken in the last month. So you can see here that in this corridor right here on Hudson Bridge. [0:20:08, 0:20:28]: Bridge Road. Uh we have a lot of activity, so that's where we're going to direct our officers to enforce uh traffic in this area to try to cut down on those instances. And you can see also as we come up to uh North Henry Boulevard area, we have a lot of accidents around that area also. So this helps us to programmatically uh and strategically uh place our resources in the right way. [0:20:28, 0:20:48]: And focus on the right things. Our officers also have a separate dashboard that provides them with more detailed information. So every officer in the department has their own login where they can look in, they can see what's happening in their community, when it's happened, they can read the details, they can visualize the data so that they can develop strategies to respond appropriately to these issues. So [0:20:48, 0:21:08]: This is something again that we just wanted to highlight for members of the community. This is a free tool. It's not app-based, so you do have to access it via the web. But we share all of our data. As soon as that data is verified through our system, we push that information out to the database. It updates every 24 hours. [0:21:08, 0:21:28]: So you see that it's gonna be a day behind. It's not real time, but we have to allow those reports to work its way through the system to get approved before we push that information out. But again, we just want to make sure that we are sharing information with the community so that the community is aware of what's going on. We believe that that's the first step of really addressing issues is by [0:21:28, 0:21:48]: Showing what's happening and then bringing that awareness to the community so that we can work together to prevent these issues from happening in the future. So just a quick overview, and I wanted to share the link for members of the community that are watching. This is the web link to access this database. You can create your own account. [0:21:48, 0:22:08]: You can set up your own alerts as we had mentioned before. And of course, if you have any questions as it relates to how to operate this, feel free to contact us, email us, and we'd be happy to help address any questions that any members of our community have. That's all I have as it relates to the presentation and would certainly be happy to entertain any questions. [0:22:08, 0:22:28]: questions uh that the council may have regarding this tool. I would tell you Chief this is a great tool. I appreciate the presentation. I'm pretty sure the rest of the council does as well. This this shows to me it shows true transparency and being truthful, have a good honest relationship with the community and let them know, hey, you know we're doing our job, you can see what we're doing and check check it out. And [0:22:28, 0:22:33]: If you got any questions we talk talk with us and we'll we'll resolve it and uh this is this is good. I mean [0:22:34, 0:22:41]: Uh you're not hiding anything. Y you your hands are above board and say, This is what's happening, folks. This is this is good stuff. [0:22:41, 0:22:47]: I appreciate it. Uh council, uh I would imagine you Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. Yeah. [0:22:47, 0:23:07]: Chief, I I think this is great as well. Um, are you are you the person or who is the person that if I wanted to call and I wanted to get this app, do I reach out to you or is just go to the website as you just this website here and is and just follow the link. [0:23:07, 0:23:27]: Right. Just go to the website and follow the link. I would encourage members that are watching just to since this is recorded to go back and we've kind of walked everybody through the steps in terms of how to access it. Uh it's pretty straightforward once you get in there and you start playing with it. But um again, if there are any questions that members of the community have, uh they can contact us uh at the police department or they can email [0:23:27, 0:23:32]: [1413.9, 1415.3]: Thank you, sir. [0:23:36, 0:23:43]: You good? You good? Oh, go ahead, Miss Barber. I wanted to ask. So Chief Tramer, I'm looking at this date range and it says past month. [0:23:45, 0:23:49]: So current month, are we able to see? [0:23:50, 0:24:07]: What is being reported or the incidents. Right. So when you when you when you click into the date range, you can select whatever custom days. We can look for the past week. So we can look for what happened yesterday, uh um back through a a week prior, or you can go in here, it's a little slow here, the connection's not great. [0:24:08, 0:24:11]: One more question. So what happens when cases are closed? [0:24:12, 0:24:32]: Do they no longer appear on here? No, this information will appear on here, um it's it's gonna stay on here for the entire time frame um that you're that you're viewing. So if you wanted to see as an example, what we don't have, you can look for the past six months, but we only have three months of data. Uh if you wanted to, you can go back and look for the past two years. [0:24:32, 0:24:37]: Um this is something that is archived, is chronicled, and you can always go back and refer to at any point in time. [0:24:41, 0:24:44]: Any other questions? Yeah, go ahead, uh Mr. Blount. [0:24:44, 0:24:57]: Chief, thank you for your presentation. Uh I do think this is uh helpful tool for the community. Uh one question I have, uh when you click on let's say incidents uh in a community. [0:24:58, 0:25:00]: Does it give that address or just give the error? [0:25:01, 0:25:09]: No, it just gives the area. If you'll notice here, uh maybe we can pull up an example. It says the five hundred block of Sheffield Court. It's not gonna give a particular uh address. [0:25:10, 0:25:10]: Yeah. [0:25:17, 0:25:25]: You know, I I like to ever show that with you view them. Yeah, I like to show them some actual picture. Absolutely. Absolutely. That's why we configured it that way. [0:25:26, 0:25:34]: Yeah, I just want to say thank you for bringing this forward and I'll see you at the town hall on Thursday. All right, yes, sir, and thank you. Good deal. All right, thank you, Chief. Appreciate that. [0:25:36, 0:25:45]: Next item is a public hearing. Council consideration to adopt a twenty twenty-three to twenty twenty-seven short-term work program capital improvements element. [0:25:45, 0:25:47]: Presented by Miss Carter, please. [0:25:53, 0:25:54]: Messed up up here. [0:25:58, 0:25:59]: You don't have to take it. [0:26:01, 0:26:21]: Uh good evening, Mayor and Council. Yes, the short-term work program and capital improvements element is a plan that we draft every year, which is state mandated in order for the City of Stockbridge to maintain its um stay in compliance with state minimum standards. What we have done is the initial [0:26:20, 0:26:40]: Document that was initially drafted was in July of this year. It was approved by this board to transmit to the city, I'm sorry, to the Atlanta Regional Commission and the Department of Community Affairs. They provided some comments to us. We made updates, and we're bringing the document back to the [0:26:40, 0:26:48]: City Council for adoption so that we can be in line with our compliance to approve by October 31st, 2022. [0:27:00, 0:27:01]: I'll be happy to answer any questions. [0:27:03, 0:27:08]: I don't know you n anybody got any questions thus far? Oh I always I'll do. [0:27:09, 0:27:29]: Go ahead, sir. Uh thank you for bringing this forward, Ms. Carter. And I just uh for the benefit of the folks watching, so they understand the significance of what we're doing here. Can we talk about some of the projects that we have listed there so they know uh where their tax dollars are going and how progressive we are? [0:27:28, 0:27:32]: with uh moving these projects forward. Maybe just a few of them. [0:27:37, 0:27:57]: So um a lot of these projects um are either funded through general fund, through grant dollars, state and or federal dollars. Um majority of them um have been able to have been approved um previously and we're working with our grants administrator to bring in additional [0:27:57, 0:28:05]: Funding for these projects that we're looking to fund, like our amphitheater and um not our amphitheater, but our um splash pad. [0:28:06, 0:28:26]: Like our Cultural Arts Center. We have our electric vehicle station at the amphitheater being built now. And Georgia Power provided us a grant to be able to do all the infrastructure for us. And we pay for the actual electric vehicle stations themselves, as well as the monument signs and wayfinding signs. [0:28:26, 0:28:40]: That you all have gotten a tutorial over and we'll hear about a little bit more tonight and other multiple projects. So we're looking for funding from every source possible for these particular projects. [0:28:41, 0:29:01]: So I guess the follow-up on that is to understand this entire process is that we have a very organized plan and we have a vision that we have to submit to the state on what we plan to do for them to sign off on it. So these projects that we are managing or that we're that are coming forward. [0:29:01, 0:29:14]: forward, they're just not popping up. We have a we have a very aggressive plan in order to d to accomplish these. And these are are the part of the city plan for us to move forward. So they understand we're operating strategically. [0:29:14, 0:29:29]: And to add on to this, this piece of um legislation is also what we utilize as part of our update for our five-year comprehensive plan update. So every five years, the state is also looking to see is [0:29:29, 0:29:42]: for these projects that we've listed, have we accomplished them? Have they been completed? And they offer grant fund funding opportunities as well to complete and provide supplemental funds for these activities as well. [0:29:43, 0:30:03]: Yeah, one of the final question, one of them we just we did receive a grant for the downtown for the for the bicycle path. We did. Uh as well. So that was one of the that was part of that program, right? Correct, correct. That is a um a partial sharing uh grant that we received from the Atlanta Regional Commission that gave um a hundred and twenty [0:30:03, 0:30:21]: five thousand dollars as a grant. They gave us uh they're paying a hundred. The city is paying twenty-five thousand and um this is for the purpose of a you know just under a mile of pedestrian connectivity throughout our downtown area which helps us to to bring in those developers who want to build uh in our downtown community. [0:30:22, 0:30:22]: Thank you. [0:30:23, 0:30:26]: Council, any other questions at all from Ms. Carter? [0:30:26, 0:30:46]: Okay, so this is a public hearing, so I need to open this up for uh comments from the citizenry that is here. So I'm gonna start on my on my very on my left side. So is any comments for the agreement uh on the very left side? Any comments at all in the middle? The far right. [0:30:46, 0:30:54]: Seeing none. Any comments uh f that is against this? Uh any thoughts uh of negative comments per se? Far left side. [0:30:55, 0:30:56]: Seeing none in the middle. [0:30:58, 0:30:59]: And my far right. [0:31:00, 0:31:06]: Okay, no comments one way or the other, positive or negative, I'll close a public hearing. Council, I need a motion to accept this uh proposal here. [0:31:07, 0:31:11]: So move. Mr. Gallzenter. Uh Mayor Potem second. All in favor, please indicate. [0:31:12, 0:31:14]: Thank you very much. Thank you, Ms. Carter. Thank you. Appreciate it. [0:31:18, 0:31:33]: On old business. Council consideration to amend the amphitheater uh policy to create a non competitive clause for private events and contra uh concerts and to provide uh revenue sharing uh for profit events. Mr. Gardner, please. [0:31:55, 0:32:15]: Good evening, ma'am, counsel. Good evening. Um, we're back before you with the changes that we were able to get um via going back through the video of the meeting because I think there was a bunch of changes and then no changes and changes and then no changes. [0:32:15, 0:32:24]: But we're able to get um the gist of I think what was the concerns of some of the members of council uh during the last meeting. [0:32:26, 0:32:39]: And so what I did was kinda give you out of printing the whole thing out or give you kind of cliff notes of the couple of pages that I think were in this point of discussion um during our last meeting, which would have been page three, four. [0:32:41, 0:33:01]: five and six and specifically on page three there was the discussion around um having um the having a partnership with the city council as it relates to to um any events [0:33:01, 0:33:20]: um that that wanted to um utilize um the facility. So I think I might have caught B the amendment there were we're recommending would be um applicants outside of an approved [0:33:20, 0:33:24]: Um partnership agreement with the city council shall pay for talent. [0:33:25, 0:33:28]: Sound, light, stage hands. [0:33:28, 0:33:30]: publicity, advertisements [0:33:31, 0:33:43]: stage catering backstage catering, um, et cetera, under that section. Um, I think there was some concern that that, you know, there might be some ambiguity there as it relates to [0:33:43, 0:33:50]: folks um not being able to provide those services on their own. And then on page four [0:33:53, 0:34:13]: Under section nine, rate categories and fees. Um, there was concern around civic organizations um and it uh and educational uh events, as well as on page five, um, under nonprofit. And so what we did was [0:34:13, 0:34:13]: Two [0:34:15, 0:34:26]: to rest any concerns we put in there that if if there was a civic or educational concert that that concert would could only be sanctioned as part of an agreement. [0:34:26, 0:34:28]: Um that's approved by me and council. [0:34:29, 0:34:49]: So that we couldn't have a concert outside of an agreement with Mayor and Council. The same thing on page five for nonprofit events. Um there's a section there under the bullet point in red. You will see where it says concerts under this section shall only be allowed under a partnership agreement approved by the city council. [0:34:50, 0:34:52]: I mean that was a concern as to whether or not [0:34:53, 0:35:01]: A non profit can have a co can have a concert and how that concert would be and so it could only happen as part of an agreement. [0:35:02, 0:35:22]: The other section I think we had some really good agreement on as it relates to commercial or for-profit was that however no commercial for-profit uh concerts shall be allowed in the amphitheater um period because we understand we didn't want to compete with ourselves. Um [0:35:22, 0:35:37]: And then under there, if we do have an event that's for commercial, um, that that event shall share in the profits at about twenty uh twenty percent of the box fees plus the ten thousand dollar fee to utilize the facility. [0:35:40, 0:35:47]: And then I think that was the last one. No, I think I'm last one. Page number six. [0:35:49, 0:35:59]: There was discussion under page number six, n uh section ten, coordination of services. I think this was where we had a lot of grappling about um whether or not we would [0:35:59, 0:36:19]: um allow for the city to reimburse and I think this captures I hope it captures what the council's concerns were and specifically we added the language um under section ten that to best serve its guests and to maintain the integrity of the amphitheater. It is the policy of the city [0:36:19, 0:36:25]: city of Stockbridge that certain services shall be provided by the city [0:36:25, 0:36:45]: or its authorized agent under a partnership agreement approved by the city council with the applicant reimbursing the city for c for all costs associated with the provisions of such services. And these services may include and are not limited to the concessions, janitorial grounds, [0:36:45, 0:36:52]: parking management, emergency medical, law enforcement, fire protection, and event monitoring. [0:36:52, 0:37:08]: And I think that that was a concern that you all had that to make sure that any those exceptions would only be guaranteed under a part partnership and obviously you guys would be able to see that partnership and see if if they are asking for those exceptions what they would be and then you could approve or deny. [0:37:10, 0:37:30]: Okay. Questions, Council. Well, sir. Go right here, please. Uh Councilman Mayor Pro Tem was not here. And Mr. Blount was not here for that particular meeting. So before we start rehashing what we've already talked about, they probably need to weigh in to see exactly what they think uh in the original cover. [0:37:30, 0:37:50]: Conversation that we had, uh, I think the three of us at the meeting, we talked about the partnership. And my only concern was that we we did not leave a lane for small businesses to to come in and to participate by not allowing for reimbursement out of ticket sales. Uh [0:37:50, 0:38:10]: So pretty much you'd have to be a deep-pocketed player to come in to be able to have an event uh at the amphitheater because uh, you know, you some of those expenses up front, such as the event that we were supposed to have that uh unfortunately was weather delayed, that event called for uh some reimbursement. [0:38:10, 0:38:30]: To be included. I'm not sure whether events like that would ever come to the city if we did not have uh some type of uh agreement in place. And uh, you know, and the last thing that I'll say about that is that, you know, I was watching the special on the Showtime Lakers and uh, you know, uh Dr. [0:38:30, 0:38:50]: Dr. Bus, who rest his soul. I'm a Celtic fan, by the way. But in the end, he said every night that his avenue was closed was a day they lost. So he he looked to operate his avenue 365 days a year. Now, my contention is if the city's only gonna use it 50 days or or 20 days, 12 days a year. [0:38:50, 0:39:10]: This past year, we've lost on 353 days throughout the year. So under this agreement right now, not allowing anybody else to use the amphitheater for concerts. Let's say somebody could land uh Maxwell and we couldn't. Well, we certainly wouldn't be [0:39:10, 0:39:26]: able to deal with them by because uh they wanted to bring in the show. I think the the the medium agreement is if they if they pay us the fee and they give us twenty percent, that's a win. Because there's no guarantee that we're gonna make money on a concert. [0:39:26, 0:39:27]: There's no guarantee. [0:39:28, 0:39:32]: But if somebody else brought the concert in, they paid the fee to use the facility. [0:39:32, 0:39:34]: And they guaranteed us twenty percent. [0:39:34, 0:39:42]: There's no way to lose money on that. But that's an expanded discussion and you know it's gonna come down to what the council has to chime in on. [0:39:43, 0:39:47]: I'm sorry. Go ahead. [0:39:49, 0:40:09]: Thank you, Mr. Gardner, for your presentation. One of the things that um I've always contested is that, you know, when we set policies and procedures, what is the template that we're using to set those policies and procedures? Are we setting it through what the council desires, or is that common practice for uh events, or is that common practice for amphitheaters? [0:40:08, 0:40:09]: Yeah. [0:40:10, 0:40:13]: Um if there's a common practice among amphitheaters,'cause [0:40:14, 0:40:17]: As I've always said, none of us have run an amphitheater before. [0:40:17, 0:40:22]: So what's the template that we're using and what where where are these policies and procedures are coming from? [0:40:22, 0:40:29]: If it's not deposited procedures of other amphitheaters to do something that we're trying to make an anomaly to do, then I'm not for it. [0:40:30, 0:40:36]: Because the success of our amphitheater is to take the likeness of those things that have been successful with other amphitheaters. [0:40:37, 0:40:39]: And so whatever happens and whatever we're doing [0:40:40, 0:40:46]: for this amphitheater, I needed to if we change those policies or procedures. [0:40:46, 0:41:06]: Show me where that's coming from. That's a common practice, not just a common desire among us as council members, but those that have run on amphitheater and those that know what they're doing. So uh and I've always said also uh I would agree that we do have to make sure that there's a lower tier sponsorship level for small businesses because when before the amphitheater, they were [0:41:06, 0:41:23]: were involved, uh many of'em was involved with the city uh when it came to events came to c uh came to events and and different uh functions that we had in the city. But to change a policy to allow certain things that on a higher scale of a percentage, I have to see where that's [0:41:24, 0:41:27]: come and practice at at any amphitheater and I haven't yet to see that. [0:41:28, 0:41:30]: Okay, Mayor Pochem, go ahead, sir. [0:41:31, 0:41:45]: Yes. Um I also agree that and I don't have a problem in partnering with non profits. Um but I do have a problem with us putting ourselves in a position [0:41:47, 0:41:48]: To lose. [0:41:49, 0:41:51]: And in the word [0:41:52, 0:41:53]: reimbursing. [0:41:54, 0:41:57]: I I I sort of have a problem with that. [0:41:57, 0:42:00]: Cause ha how how do you [0:42:01, 0:42:05]: How do you enforce that? How do you guarantee that? [0:42:06, 0:42:08]: If someone has an event [0:42:08, 0:42:10]: And it is not profitable. [0:42:12, 0:42:14]: So h how how do we get reimbursed, uh [0:42:15, 0:42:22]: How how do we get reimbursed? And and that's a problem that I have. Again, I don't have a problem with with partnering. [0:42:23, 0:42:30]: And I don't have a problem in lowering some of the um costs or standards. [0:42:32, 0:42:36]: But I'm not sure I'm in favor of us going out front. [0:42:37, 0:42:40]: bearing financial expenses. [0:42:41, 0:42:52]: based on the fact that we will be in reimbursed later. And then if if if their event is not successful, then the city loses [0:42:52, 0:43:04]: as well as the uh non profit organization or the organization. So I just have a problem with this this whole wording of reimbursement and I don't know how do we [0:43:05, 0:43:25]: partner with small businesses and allow them to be able to to use this facility. But I'm just not comfortable with us going out front paying a large amount and at the end of the day or at the end of this this event, then it's a loss, loss for everyone [0:43:24, 0:43:25]: Everybody. [0:43:26, 0:43:27]: And they can walk away. [0:43:28, 0:43:29]: But for the city [0:43:30, 0:43:45]: I I just don't think we c we should be able to to walk away like that, not losing city funds. Yes, sir. And and this this coordinated service is only gonna be allowed where you, the council, approve it. [0:43:45, 0:43:49]: So if for instance a uh a uh [0:43:50, 0:43:56]: A applicant comes in and only wants janitorial services to be covered, obviously. [0:43:57, 0:44:08]: on on on an agreement where the the city entered into a partnership with this entity, let's say Hans of Hope wants to do a concert or something like that. [0:44:08, 0:44:14]: And the only thing they ask for is janitorial service. Well in a situation like that [0:44:15, 0:44:35]: You know, you're not putting up a lot in terms of what you what what what you're putting in the in as part of this agreement, but you still have the council has the opportunity to weigh in and say yes or no. It doesn't happen automatically. It it only happens if the the majority of this council or this council approves it. And if someone [0:44:34, 0:44:54]: comes in and asks for um let's say all of these services they want to be reimbursed. Obviously counsel has the right to say nope we're not doing that. We'll cover you on this and this, but we won't cover you on that or we won't cover you on any of your these associated costs. But that that decision is not left to me or the staff that [0:44:54, 0:45:11]: That's left to council as to whether or not you wanna do that. But but the problem that I have with that, I I just don't feel that the council should be put in that position. It should be equal across the board because I may favor Hands of Hope and I may wanna give them [0:45:11, 0:45:12]: Everything. [0:45:12, 0:45:21]: another council member may come or some other organization that another council member may favor and they may want less. So how do you [0:45:22, 0:45:40]: You know, and I just don't wanna put us in that position where we are going against each other, allowing one organization more or less than the other. If we can avoid putting this council in that position, I I just think the policy or the standards should be equally [0:45:41, 0:45:52]: across the board. Therefore we don't get caught up into that. Now how do you do that? I I don't know. And that's the dilemma because that's what some of the council asked us to do and obviously [0:45:53, 0:45:55]: Some of the councils don't, right? Um [0:45:56, 0:46:03]: So that's a decision obviously the the council has to make as a body, whether or not you want that exception in there or not. [0:46:03, 0:46:05]: Um so that's [0:46:05, 0:46:25]: Yes. I was gonna say now what I possibly could agree with as far as a dollar amount of reimbursement and that amount is just standard across the board. It may include janitoria, it may include this, it may include that, but it's a dollar amount that the silly [0:46:25, 0:46:27]: The city is willing [0:46:27, 0:46:28]: To [0:46:29, 0:46:40]: you know, to to to to utilize in this case. And I think that keeps all of us safe. If if they're just a dollar amount. And then it it's up to that organization. [0:46:40, 0:46:41]: You know, if [0:46:42, 0:47:02]: If they want to do it or not, or if they have some other uh sponsorship where they can sort of incur some of those um those those causes. But I just don't think that the we in the city should get caught up into picking and choosing who gets what as they approach. Cause we don't know. We don't know what they're going to ask for. [0:47:02, 0:47:21]: when they come. And I don't want to this council members, I don't want us going back and forth with each other, trying to say, well, you know, this organization should get this. And then two months later another organization come and you say, well, this organization should not get that. I just don't want to put us in that position. [0:47:24, 0:47:25]: Mr. Blount? [0:47:25, 0:47:40]: Uh Mr. Gardner, I would I would have to concur with that because when you're talking about uh the elected body and you talk about politicians, I don't ever want a policy to be set that can have political provisions set forth [0:47:40, 0:47:50]: for this person or that person. It could go into that. I think that we should set policies that are across the board, that are fair to everybody, and that because you can find yourself in uh [0:47:51, 0:47:55]: Because I've always said on this council, whatever we do. [0:47:55, 0:47:59]: Whatever standard we set becomes a precedence for everybody. [0:48:00, 0:48:12]: And when you start to put political provisions in, because you're making it now as uh uh whenever if we wanna make these provisions for this person or that person, then then then there's not a set standard. [0:48:12, 0:48:18]: It's whatever we say for this person or that person. And I think we can find ourselves in some uh [0:48:18, 0:48:38]: That's the way you find yourselves in different type litigation pertaining to decisions by the council rather than having a a policy by the city that's one standard. And I think that that's that's I I'm for setting this just one standard uh without making those provisions as as needed because they can become political. [0:48:39, 0:48:42]: Uh, and that's not a belittlement of any of my colleagues. [0:48:43, 0:48:44]: That's even beyond now. [0:48:45, 0:48:46]: That it could go into that. [0:48:47, 0:49:00]: True code. You know, I just I I I'm not I'm not for us being able to make provisions like that. We either set a policy, that's the policy, and that's the standard, and we move the city forward like that. [0:49:00, 0:49:01]: Yeah. [0:49:01, 0:49:20]: Mayor Ford, if I sir, go ahead, please. I I can agree with a dollar amount that would just be equal across the board, regardless of who may come. I think that's not the only equal and fair way actually to do it, but I'd be curious to see what the other council members have to say. Sir. You go right up, please. [0:49:20, 0:49:40]: Yeah, yeah. Sorry. If I could, I sa I I kinda agree with you that that that uh that would be agreeable to me as far as setting what a particular dollar amount is. But I think Mr. Blount you did hit on a very key thing, which is what is customary at these other facilities. We don't want to be an outlier. [0:49:40, 0:50:00]: where we're doing something totally different than somebody else. So again, there need to be a genesis for where these we're creating these policies in in a silo, or are we doing what's you know what's accustomed to what we're doing in the industry? Is there's are you able to answer those questions? Because originally I guess you know what you're [0:50:00, 0:50:15]: you were doing over at the East Point or some other cities. So what are you aware of what the other cities are doing or maybe Mr. Berry might be uh uh inclined to be able to enlighten us what they're doing and some of the facilities uh he's worked at. [0:50:15, 0:50:34]: So when we put this policy together um back in the early summer and brought it to you guys for adoption, we looked at um a number of communities and how they address their use of their amphitheater. Um and then we looked at a um [0:50:35, 0:50:55]: A city in particular that that had an amphitheater use and kind of blended theirs um uh because of the s similar size and scope of their facility to towards us. So we looked at what pretty much what was happening in the in the industry per se, and then model obviously uh our policies after those. [0:50:54, 0:51:04]: Um so we we we didn't just you know, pull it out of the air. Um and then we brought it to you guys originally. [0:51:04, 0:51:18]: So so the changes that we made were contrary to what you had already established, is that what you said? And and and realize too, I think, you know, every facility is different. They're not the same. They may be called an amphitheater, but they operate a little different. [0:51:19, 0:51:39]: Um and then you have uh where you have a government entity involved, then obviously this as you gave this the example of uh Mr. Buss, you know, that that is a for-profit organization and business versus we're we're a government. So we'll provide services and and tangential [0:51:39, 0:51:46]: entertainment or as part of some of these events that we have facilities. But um, you know [0:51:46, 0:52:06]: The wish part of this review is obviously what the council feels is in the best interest of the city and what you feel is equitable, uh as you mentioned related to small business and uh and such. In terms of the overall philosophy, my my focus, and I'm speaking for [0:52:06, 0:52:26]: Me is not the actual profit inside the building. And let's say let me make that clear. I I mentioned that Lakers example as what is the best practice out in the industry, which is what we're talking about. But anytime we have an event in downtown, if somebody had in my mind, and I'm talking for me, if somebody [0:52:26, 0:52:36]: had an event in the amphitheater. They brought thirty two hundred people downs downtown and we charge them a minimal fee. It's a win. [0:52:37, 0:52:49]: Because they brought thirty two hundred people downtown. The focus of what we're doing is to bring people downtown. So to me the policy that we set with the with the fee and then the twenty percent is really [0:52:49, 0:52:50]: Really [0:52:50, 0:52:56]: Uh it will really was a good policy to begin with, the the the fee and the and the twenty percent because [0:52:56, 0:52:59]: No matter what person who what they were doing. [0:52:59, 0:53:19]: They were bringing people into downtown and we were guaranteed a profit. Now, Melpro Tim, you said, you know, as you spoke that, you know, we partner with these organizations, and there's no guarantee that we would make a profit. But I mean, there's no guarantee that we're making profit on any of these concerts, but if we allow somebody else to bring the [0:53:19, 0:53:30]: concert to us, then especially a a large provider, they're gonna pay for everything and then they're gonna pay us the fee and then they're gonna give us twenty percent if there is a fee. [0:53:30, 0:53:43]: But as we know, there's no guarantee that we're gonna make money on our concerts. It really is a guarantee the other way around. Yeah. But those those are just my thoughts. Can I ask one second one second please. Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [0:53:45, 0:53:45]: Um [0:53:47, 0:53:51]: So my concern initially was um [0:53:51, 0:53:56]: The city receiving reimbursement or putting money up front. [0:53:56, 0:53:57]: For [0:53:57, 0:53:58]: Any organization. [0:53:59, 0:54:01]: Whether it is a non profit or [0:54:01, 0:54:02]: Commercial for profit. [0:54:03, 0:54:05]: Just don't think it is a good idea for the city. [0:54:06, 0:54:07]: To put money up front. [0:54:08, 0:54:08]: Um [0:54:08, 0:54:10]: I think it would be helpful. [0:54:10, 0:54:12]: If we break this down. [0:54:12, 0:54:13]: Um [0:54:14, 0:54:16]: Об'ясні, ви стіль на. [0:54:17, 0:54:20]: come up with a solution to address the non profit. [0:54:21, 0:54:24]: Considering their fee is twenty five hundred dollars. [0:54:24, 0:54:28]: Um, for any event that they may want to hold at the amphitheater. [0:54:29, 0:54:32]: We know twenty five hundred dollars is not going to cover [0:54:32, 0:54:33]: Um [0:54:33, 0:54:34]: The [0:54:34, 0:54:37]: Some of the coordination of services. [0:54:37, 0:54:39]: For a six hour event. [0:54:40, 0:54:48]: So the city would be holding the bag for whatever. Okay. So you explain to me, Mr. Gardner, if you can explain to me. [0:54:49, 0:54:50]: How a nonprofit [0:54:50, 0:54:53]: Can host an event at the amphitheater. [0:54:53, 0:54:55]: Um without the city. [0:54:55, 0:54:56]: Havington. [0:54:56, 0:54:58]: Pay any money up front. [0:54:59, 0:55:01]: Right. So obviously [0:55:01, 0:55:03]: If I'm a two person [0:55:03, 0:55:07]: non profit then I probably won't be looking at this as a venue. [0:55:07, 0:55:27]: But if you have a large nonprofit, let's say for instance, um Salvation Army or such a group, then yes, they they can afford to come in and utilize the facility because they have the backbone to be able to do that. Um to pay for it at the 25 and then utilize the [0:55:27, 0:55:28]: Yeah. [0:55:28, 0:55:40]: Um, but your small mom and pop nonprofit probably won't. They'll probably rent a space in the Merylmanders or a smaller space to do whatever event they're gonna have because obviously they don't have the capacity. [0:55:40, 0:55:48]: to probably give up twenty five hundred. And and I might be I might be shortchanging some of those smaller smaller non profits. But I think [0:55:48, 0:55:59]: You know, when we when we talk about the size and scope of this facility, I think everybody have to look at that as when when you make this decision. It's this is not a hundred person C [0:55:59, 0:56:00]: Venu. [0:56:00, 0:56:06]: Right. So obviously as a small business or a small non profit. [0:56:07, 0:56:09]: I'm not gonna come rent this facility. [0:56:10, 0:56:12]: Because I don't have the capacity to pay for it. [0:56:13, 0:56:21]: Right. I mean it's just like everybody in life. Some people want a Rolls Royce, but you don't have the capacity to pay for it, so you don't buy it. You get yourself a Honda Copen. [0:56:22, 0:56:24]: Right. And that's not being [0:56:24, 0:56:27]: It's not saying that they're not equitable, that's just [0:56:28, 0:56:37]: Real life situation. I mean, if like I said, I mean, you know, if if I'm looking to host an event, I'm gonna look at a venue that I know that I I can afford the space to hobby. [0:56:37, 0:56:51]: Um and then I make that decision based on, you know, if I got three or four options. But like I said, for your n larger non profit organizations, twenty five hundred dollars is probably very easy for them to to put up to have an event. [0:56:53, 0:56:57]: Okay. M Mr Blount. Sir. Mr. Blount was next. Go ahead, please. [0:56:59, 0:57:17]: Yeah, I I think uh mayor, I think all the points kind of been hit on uh on this. Um, but I would ask Mr. Glenner in the future when we talk about things of of the amphitheater, and I know that you all kinda go into other cities, because I know sometimes in our in our um binders [0:57:17, 0:57:21]: We would have uh you guys would reference rather it was a policy that was at [0:57:22, 0:57:42]: Peace Tree City or whatever, not Peace Tree City, but uh let's just say uh you know you would reference where the likeness of what we're doing to other cities. Because for me, I just want us to make sure that we're in a position, in a place where we're not the anomaly of [0:57:42, 0:57:47]: of something, I want to see where what we do is the success of something else. [0:57:48, 0:57:49]: You see what I'm saying? Yes, sir. [0:57:51, 0:57:52]: Mayor Pro Tem? [0:57:54, 0:57:56]: Mr. Garden and Council, um [0:57:57, 0:57:58]: In my mind [0:57:59, 0:58:01]: This policy should be about [0:58:01, 0:58:03]: A safeguard. [0:58:04, 0:58:05]: That protect the city. [0:58:06, 0:58:08]: If something is successful [0:58:08, 0:58:09]: Yes. [0:58:10, 0:58:11]: You know, you win. [0:58:11, 0:58:16]: But I think we have to be about a policy about the safeguard. [0:58:16, 0:58:20]: Councilman Alexander mentioned about, you know, win win. [0:58:22, 0:58:25]: When the city initiate an event [0:58:25, 0:58:27]: We control our own destiny. [0:58:28, 0:58:42]: But when we allow someone else to come in to do something, we're not in control. So we don't know how successful this is going to be. But if we're on the hook for, I don't know, just say um janitorial. [0:58:43, 0:58:45]: And we spend whatever. [0:58:45, 0:58:49]: Say we spend five, ten thousand dollars for janitoria. [0:58:50, 0:58:50]: I mean [0:58:51, 0:58:53]: We lose. So so how do you [0:58:54, 0:59:01]: Force. How do you enforce that reimbursement? So rather than going in that direction. [0:59:02, 0:59:04]: You build in [0:59:04, 0:59:08]: A safe guard you build in a safety net. [0:59:09, 0:59:13]: to prevent all of that. When things are good, it's good. [0:59:14, 0:59:17]: But this policy should be about that safety net. [0:59:18, 0:59:24]: And and that's really my contention with this. Where is the safety net? Because again, [0:59:24, 0:59:31]: We're allowing this and we're spending, but we don't know their due diligence in going out making this a success. [0:59:32, 0:59:38]: And then if it's not, then they walk away and say, Well, okay, we we didn't do it this time. But then but the city [0:59:38, 0:59:41]: We're we're you know, we we're holding the bag. [0:59:43, 1:00:03]: What I may I'll make a recommendation, just a thought though, that all v obviously we have different opinions here. Maybe s we have to have some additional discussion um and then come back uh with th those comments and kind of have you know, maybe have more discussion maybe with two one on one, uh three council members or something like this and to kind of filter through this a little better. [1:00:03, 1:00:13]: But I think Mayor Ford if if this council's okay, I would not have a problem in setting uh a dollar amount ceiling. [1:00:13, 1:00:22]: across the board, something that we probably could absorb if this event is not a success. I mean to to [1:00:23, 1:00:33]: to lose based on somebody else's effort to make it a success, that's one thing. But I just think that, you know, the the dollar amount that we can sort of live with [1:00:34, 1:00:39]: I think that may be the way to go because when we come back we still have the same issue. [1:00:40, 1:01:00]: So I'll be in favor of of a dollar amount and just and take a chance on this organization who come before us, they gonna go out there and work. So what's your recommendation for a dollar amount? Well I'm gonna I'm gonna lend to our city manager over here and just you know, and I don't know. Mm-hmm. I interject on that man. If you don't mind. Yeah. Go ahead. [1:01:01, 1:01:01]: Uh uh. [1:01:02, 1:01:06]: Be because I don't want us be I don't want us to sit here and set a dollar amount. [1:01:07, 1:01:10]: And we're just kinda coming out of the wind again. I wanted to get with people [1:01:11, 1:01:14]: that have done this, know this, and that are doing this. [1:01:15, 1:01:19]: And so when we set whatever policy we set, we want it to be solid. [1:01:19, 1:01:34]: Not just saying, hey, let's do this or let's do that. No, no, we're doing it because this is the way you're supposed to do it. So I wouldn't want this council setting any dollar amount tonight because we're just we're just throwing it out there. Let's find out what the let's find out what is [1:01:35, 1:01:38]: What is the standard for us to do whatever we're doing? [1:01:38, 1:01:47]: I do not want the city to become an anomaly because we became an anomaly this year th this year and it and and things was interesting. I'll just put it that way. [1:01:48, 1:01:53]: in a lot of areas. And I just want us to make sure that whatever move we make, whatever we do. [1:01:53, 1:01:58]: That it's a standard in the system that it's it's it's this is this is the way you operate. [1:01:59, 1:02:01]: May I forward my last comment? Yeah, go right, sir. [1:02:02, 1:02:12]: Where I disagree with that is Stockbridge is Stockbridge. Stockbridge is not McDonald's. Stockbridge is not Jonesburg. And what's good for someone else [1:02:13, 1:02:17]: may not be good for stock grid. So I'm always about [1:02:18, 1:02:38]: What is good for me and my household. I'm not looking at my next door neighbor and saying, well, okay, my next-door neighbor, this is good for him. No, it doesn't work that way. You got to look at your own household and what is good for you and be proactive and go forward. So the standard may not be good for the city. [1:02:38, 1:02:58]: Star grid according to that standard as far as someone else. And when you go out there and look at standard, you're gonna probably see different standards depending on the city, the size of the city, the organization. Some organizations are well entrenched in the community and they know how to go out there and do it, whereas some may not. [1:02:58, 1:03:04]: I just think whatever we do in Stockbridge, let's do it for Stockbridge and live with that. [1:03:05, 1:03:13]: Not based on what somebody else is doing. And Mayor, that's my last comment. Maybe let me just read go right ahead. When when I let me get something clear when I say standard. [1:03:14, 1:03:18]: Because when we started this operation, none of us knew standards. [1:03:19, 1:03:25]: You start from the standard and then you take whatever provisions you need to make to modify it to fit your city. [1:03:26, 1:03:28]: When we sit here and didn't take a standard [1:03:29, 1:03:42]: We set we had policies in place, procedures in place, percentages in place that was not beneficial for the city. Why? Because we had no idea what the standard in the market was. We didn't know that. [1:03:43, 1:03:54]: I'm talking about what the city needs to do to modify, set and di that that would identify what we're doing, but you have to have a template in place to start from. [1:03:54, 1:03:58]: Not just a number outside. So I'm not saying do what other people do. [1:03:59, 1:04:17]: I'm saying there has to be a starting point that makes sense for everybody. That makes sense for for for the system that we're going in, that makes sense for the industry. There has to be a starting point. And then you modify what fits your city. That's what I mean. I'm just trying to keep us from going down a road that we don't need to go down. [1:04:19, 1:04:19]: All right. [1:04:21, 1:04:28]: Comments on this thing? Go ahead, please. I'd like to make a motion that we table this item. Okay, so we'll request that step. [1:04:29, 1:04:32]: Second. Ms. Mr. Bell second. All in favor, please indicate. [1:04:33, 1:04:40]: I wanted to finish my motion. Oh, I thought you finished it. I'm sorry. I wanna um request that we table this item. [1:04:40, 1:04:42]: And direct staff to consult with [1:04:43, 1:04:43]: A [1:04:44, 1:04:44]: Consultant. [1:04:45, 1:04:50]: Um in the industry that knows how to set up these types of policies. [1:04:51, 1:04:57]: Okay. I thought okay, you Ms. Blount, you still second that? Yes. Okay, good. Okay. All in favor, please indicate. [1:04:57, 1:05:17]: All right, fantastic. It is now tabled. Unanimous unanimous decision on that. Okay, so council of consideration to approve the award of request for proposal RFP number two zero two two-06. Uh on call general emergen uh engineering services for the city of Stockbridge and Carter and Sloop Consult. [1:05:17, 1:05:37]: Consulting engineers. Uh Mr. Aaron, please. Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. We come back before you tonight to ask for approval of the agreement with Carter and Sloop as our second engineering firm. They was ranked the second firm. At the previous meeting, we didn't have a copy of the agreement. They only got it the day of the meeting, so they have reviewed the [1:05:37, 1:05:47]: agreement. The attorneys have reviewed it and and approved the agreement. So tonight we're asking you to approve Carter and Sloop as our second on call engineering firm. [1:05:48, 1:05:52]: Okay, is there a motion or ni first of all any questions for Mr. McDermott at all? [1:05:54, 1:05:57]: If no questions there are is there a motion to accept his proposal? [1:05:58, 1:06:02]: So is there a second? Mr from Mr. Uh Alexander, is there a second? [1:06:06, 1:06:09]: Okay, Mayor Potem second that. Any further discussion? [1:06:11, 1:06:13]: If no further discussion, all favor, please indicate. [1:06:16, 1:06:17]: All polls? [1:06:18, 1:06:23]: Abstain. Abstain. So it's three zero one. Motion passed. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Welcome. [1:06:23, 1:06:34]: Council of Consideration approved the City of Stockbridge Wayfinding Sist uh Systematic Uh Designs, schematic design, excuse me, presented by Miss Harris Braggs, Tiffany Chin. [1:06:34, 1:06:36]: Principle sky design. [1:06:37, 1:06:52]: Good evening, Mr. Mayor and Council members. Um, as you all know, I have been tasked with helping to move the wayfinding initiative forward for the city of Stockbridge by the city manager, and we have um been working with [1:06:53, 1:06:55]: The um very talented [1:06:55, 1:07:11]: um design team of Sky Design, which is an Atlanta-based firm here. I would like to bring forward Mr. Miss Tiffany Chin, who is the vice president and principal of that organization. And she is also joined by one of her team mis members, Miss Samantha Namazi. [1:07:18, 1:07:30]: Good evening everyone to see you all in person. Uh we will be presenting a recap of where we are in this project. Oh, that is not it. [1:07:35, 1:07:36]: Mm-hmm. [1:07:39, 1:07:40]: Here it is. [1:07:42, 1:07:45]: There we go. And [1:07:45, 1:07:47]: Apologies, there we go. [1:07:47, 1:07:57]: So we are going to be presenting a recap of the signage and wayfinding uh package. This involves the signage that would represent your city. [1:07:57, 1:08:17]: Around its borders and working inwards, primarily to identify the city as well as to assist with wayfinding to key destinations. As a recap of where we are today, we were tasked with the goal of understanding who the city of Stockbridge. [1:08:17, 1:08:25]: Is what kind of form and materials would represent the city in a signage capacity? [1:08:26, 1:08:31]: And then also create a system that is strategically [1:08:31, 1:08:40]: uh assisting with any type of uh destination uh finding throughout the entire city. So the presentation today [1:08:41, 1:08:45]: Вилкру сам педжіс за. [1:08:46, 1:08:59]: Wanted to start um initially just with this project goals that talks about again a little bit of recap of what I just mentioned. The point of this project is to unify the identity of the city. It will um [1:08:59, 1:09:08]: Act as a vehicle to carry forth the updated city rebranding and then direct guests to major destinations as well as downtown. [1:09:08, 1:09:16]: And then in addition to that, we will be defining what these destinations are as we work through the design process. [1:09:16, 1:09:23]: Where we are today is we are still in the latter stages of the schematics design phase. [1:09:23, 1:09:25]: Following these um [1:09:26, 1:09:37]: The conclusion of the schematics design phase, we then go into design development. And beyond that, we'll put together a documented detailed technical set, and then it will go out to bid. [1:09:37, 1:09:44]: And eventually go into installation. But just where so you know where that we are today, we are still in the schematics phase. [1:09:45, 1:09:49]: So we've taken what we understand of the city of Stockbridge character. [1:09:49, 1:09:54]: as well as the most recently updated brand guidelines. [1:09:55, 1:10:02]: And we've also created a system of sign locations based upon both um [1:10:03, 1:10:08]: The broader areas destinations as well as downtown destinations. [1:10:09, 1:10:29]: And then created programming, which quite literally is the location of signs throughout the city based upon where the city's borders are today and could possibly be in the master plan. We identify primary routes, secondary routes, and tertiary routes, all of these. [1:10:29, 1:10:39]: Again, are to be developed throughout the design process. And you can see on this particular page, we focus on the interstate routes as well as major highways and entrances into the city. [1:10:41, 1:11:01]: Furthermore, we develop we identify where secondary signs may be vehicular wayfinding, any type of additional signs that support park ID signs, and then all of these act as a breadcrumb for any guests to the city to continue to be reminded that they are in fact within the city. [1:11:01, 1:11:05]: [4267.0, 4287.0]: Here we begin the schematic design. What you're about to see is a very rough conceptual idea of our proposed forms for a number of sign types. We will begin with the highway signs, move into secondary signs that are along major routes, but still [1:11:26, 1:11:28]: On the border of the city. [1:11:28, 1:11:39]: Then you will also see some developed ideas that include vehicular directionals as well as tertiary IDs and park IDs. [1:11:40, 1:11:47]: So, from a concept level, we what we really wanted to do was understand who the city of Stockbridge is. [1:11:47, 1:11:56]: How proud you are about your history, and how much of an emphasis you would like to move forward with in terms of the future. [1:11:56, 1:12:01]: And for us, we wanted to capture all of these feelings by creating something that feels very unique. [1:12:02, 1:12:15]: That doesn't feel too traditional, but is also very authentic to the residents as well. And the forms that you see here embrace the airiness of the city, the lightness, as well as the upward progressive movement. [1:12:16, 1:12:18]: And the major sign that you see um [1:12:19, 1:12:39]: Symmetrically supports the city's identity. And then on the right side of the page, you see the secondary monument that takes these same forms but create a different language by quite literally celebrating it by having the letters on the face of these signs again supported through the a masonry base that you see. [1:12:39, 1:12:40]: Yeah. [1:12:41, 1:13:00]: In further pages, you're going to see potential proposed colors as well as materials. But these initial pages will begin to look at what they what the forms could be as well as how they appear in space. So here you see this primary sign, this gateway sign. [1:13:01, 1:13:11]: At the off ramp betw with the highway on the left and the off ra off ramp on the right and the presence that it has um to all of the drivers. [1:13:12, 1:13:25]: And then here you see a potential placement for the secondary monument. Most times when we create these types of sign types, we want to be very conscientious about the footprint that it has. [1:13:26, 1:13:45]: Um, of course, with interstate signs, you typically have a larger footprint to work with. With secondary signs along major routes, we usually have a smaller one. So most of the time, these secondary gateways are vertical. We want them to have the same amount of presence. And so what you see is a a fairly um [1:13:45, 1:13:49]: Прогрессий да сті саму традичну бес. [1:13:49, 1:13:52]: And then here you can see, and I'll zoom in a bit. [1:13:53, 1:14:02]: How these sign types could begin to look as a sign family. So you have the internet interstate sign here on the left. [1:14:02, 1:14:08]: Secondary signs on the right with the city of city name nice and proud in front. [1:14:09, 1:14:19]: Tertiary signs, which would be on secondary and tertiary roads, again with the name um right in front, and then you can see the secondary logo mark placed on this as well. [1:14:20, 1:14:30]: This is the form that we are proposing, keeping the softness of the curves and the double momentum of the arcs for the vehicular signs. [1:14:30, 1:14:40]: And then the a proposed form for the park IDs, which is an extruded and sort of tempered version of the logo mark itself. [1:14:41, 1:14:42]: How these could look. [1:14:42, 1:14:45]: In in a um [1:14:46, 1:14:51]: Colored version. So h this is a second second view from the other direction. [1:14:52, 1:15:01]: We have two options to show you of what the color materials and um potential bases could look like. Here you see [1:15:02, 1:15:10]: A traditional red brick base with cast concrete details and caps, you see a um [1:15:10, 1:15:17]: Metallic silver arcs with your floating stock bridge name and logo mark. [1:15:17, 1:15:23]: And a fairly neutral approach to the rest of the sign types with that green carrying through. [1:15:23, 1:15:32]: Again, because we're in the schematics phase, we still have opportunity to continue to develop exactly what percentage these signs are neutral or colorful. [1:15:33, 1:15:41]: But in today's presentation, we wanted to show you two that are somewhat different. You can see even for the vehicular directional and and the park ID. [1:15:41, 1:15:46]: They're still somewhat neutral with just a strong hit of the stock bridge green. [1:15:47, 1:15:50]: The second option becomes much more colorful. [1:15:51, 1:16:08]: You see the stockbridge green in the upward arcs with white uh potentially illuminated individual floating letters up on top of your colored arcs. And then you can also see here on the secondary monument. [1:16:08, 1:16:21]: how those could be colored where the faces of them are the Stockbridge green with a tonal version, white letters, and then the backs of your arcs are the colors. So you get a little bit more playfulness. [1:16:21, 1:16:32]: You also see as an alternate the potential for quarry stone for the masonry bases. And then you also see um on the tertiary monument how the colors begin to get somewhat more reduced. [1:16:34, 1:16:48]: And then finally for the vehicular directionals, they take the same and the park ID, they take the same expression with a dark hit of green, uh colorful arcs below, and then colored back behind the vehicular directional here. [1:16:51, 1:17:11]: And so, what we hope these options both do is provide some opportunity for your initial feedback. Are we on the right track for the forms of the signs themselves? Taking inspiration from the original primary monument along the interstate, and creating a family that is not duplicative or [1:17:11, 1:17:16]: or repetitive of each sign type, but still feels very cohesive and unified. [1:17:18, 1:17:25]: That is where we are today for the sign process. Well, thank you for the presentation. [1:17:25, 1:17:38]: Start as to say option B sounds good to me, looks good to me, it's more colorful, more brightness and I dislike the brightness myself in that aspect. But the council obviously has their own opinion on how and what they think about this. Anyone? Go right ahead please. [1:17:41, 1:17:43]: Yeah, I like the uh design um [1:17:45, 1:17:49]: Uh if you sc scroll down just a little bit the one at top um [1:17:50, 1:18:04]: I I I like that design because it it does show that we're it it it almost shows like a bridge, you're bridging the community together and commit and we talked about uh logo being where community connects and it and I I think it says a lot in that. [1:18:05, 1:18:06]: Uh I'm not too [1:18:07, 1:18:11]: Not too finally the other ones that look almost like something to m in my opinion. [1:18:11, 1:18:14]: Like you would see for the railroads. [1:18:15, 1:18:15]: To me. [1:18:15, 1:18:35]: But that one itself, I I like that for us exiting off of uh ramps and uh I think this I think it has a class classiness to it also, but I think it speaks to what we're what the city is actually doing. We're connecting and it and we're stopped bridge and and it shows that bridging. I think it's it speaks a lot of it. I'm I'm not too [1:18:35, 1:18:55]: crazy about the other ones on there, sir. Go right ahead, sir. You know, Mr. Blount, I actually agree with you. I I like the one. I think the green is just too strong uh on the on the bottom. It's just cause it to me it reminds me of a regular highway sign. You see green signs throughout Georgia, it wouldn't stand out because all of the signs are green. [1:18:55, 1:19:15]: When you get off the interstate, so it will kind of blend in. But that first one there with the different colors in it and the stockbridge green. The green stands out because it's it's it's it's mint, it's highlighting the city name, so the green kind of stands out. So I do like uh that one, uh, which is the first. [1:19:15, 1:19:31]: one and I would probably duplicate the first three on the last two. Something very similar with less color of that green. But I I like the green. I just think the green needs to be a splash versus dominant. Yeah. Understood. [1:19:32, 1:19:33]: Anybody else? [1:19:34, 1:19:40]: I don't too particularly like the base, um, that color of the base. [1:19:40, 1:19:40]: Um [1:19:41, 1:19:43]: So but other than that, I'm fine. [1:19:43, 1:19:46]: I agree with my councilmates, other than the base colour. [1:19:47, 1:19:49]: Um on these option B. [1:19:50, 1:19:55]: If you'll scroll down, I like that base color. Corey still the gray. Yes. [1:19:59, 1:20:19]: Member Pro Tamlin, everybody spoke but you, sir, didn't want if you had any comments. Yes, I do. Um in the session that we met, I I I think I agree as well with the excuse me for for lack of a better reason, you know, the Eiffel Tower. Um but um but that is the one that I do love. [1:20:19, 1:20:24]: like um in the session that we met, I do like that and um [1:20:25, 1:20:29]: А з міс барбаса індикато. [1:20:29, 1:20:32]: We make it play with that a little bit, but um [1:20:32, 1:20:44]: But I do like that one and I do like the the green star bridge and the different colors. So that seemed to be the consensus that, you know, we do sort of like that one as a as a as a starting point. [1:20:44, 1:20:52]: I I'll chime in May if I could. I I I could go with that uh good base. I think the bass, as you said, does kind of match better what we would have up top. [1:20:54, 1:21:00]: Uh I got a qu question. Go right here, sir. When you did that base, were you looking at something that would [1:21:00, 1:21:02]: Kind of bounce off of City Hall. [1:21:03, 1:21:13]: We were and that's what it looks like to me and I that's why I liked it because it it kind of when you when you c come in into Stockbridge, that that's what you're gonna see when you get to City Hall. [1:21:13, 1:21:19]: That's correct. And that is we we know that there is a certain level of um [1:21:20, 1:21:26]: connection that is required to just simply tie the you know tie this identity together [1:21:26, 1:21:33]: And that is where we were inspired to use that particular those particular colors, but we also feel that um [1:21:34, 1:21:45]: Whether it's the option one base or the option two base, there's still a lot of development and studies that we can do, and either one is very complementary to um either of these color schemes. [1:21:49, 1:22:09]: Okay. So the objective is for us to uh uh we've may gave our opinions. The objective is uh is to tell you exactly which ones we want and go forward with that, or what's the objective to make sure I understand? I I appreciate the the the request for clarity. The um objective today is to essentially s approve the direction in which we're [1:22:08, 1:22:10]: Okay. [1:22:12, 1:22:32]: Provide any if there's any absolute rejections of forms that you see here on this page, if somebody just does not like the park ID sign, which is this last one down here, we know that that's we need to make a departure from where it's looking, uh from how it looks today. Otherwise we will simply continue to develop. [1:22:32, 1:22:35]: You know, everything's very sketchy and um [1:22:35, 1:22:49]: somewhat unrefined right now. The next stages are for us to ensure that it doesn't look too industrial like the railroad, to work through what the lighting looks like. Do some of these um have an extra detail on the sides, things like that. [1:22:50, 1:22:58]: And um everyone has very kindly responded around a color direction, so we have that to move forward with as well. Okay. [1:22:58, 1:23:09]: So otherwise we gave your your our input, you got a kinda general consensus of that thus far. So no vote is necessary at this point and you're gonna come back at a later date with the [1:23:10, 1:23:20]: with the consensus and the drawings and then we'll g uh go through this again. That's correct. Okay. All right. You got any questions? Yeah, you got qu yes sir. One one more quick question. With with the arc. [1:23:21, 1:23:21]: Uh uh. [1:23:22, 1:23:42]: And I'm sorry, forgive me if I missed some type of meeting that you we all had, but what areas were you looking to put this? That's a great question. So these largest signs would go on the interstate. And let me back up to that um page, but essentially at the northernmost and southernmost. [1:23:42, 1:23:47]: Mm. [1:23:47, 1:23:52]: Those that is where we pro where we propose. So exit two twenty two here. [1:23:52, 1:23:55]: And two twenty eight here. [1:23:56, 1:24:12]: And we can also work through that. Um there will be further development into budget analysis, which will inform how many of each signs go where, uh, as well as physical space. Um [1:24:14, 1:24:16]: to get a little bit more detailed. [1:24:16, 1:24:21]: Now that we have a general consensus on the direction, we're go we are going to dive even deeper into [1:24:22, 1:24:30]: G dot restrictions, ensuring that the orientation is correct, the bases are correct, and so that will also inform where some signs. [1:24:30, 1:24:33]: are physically allowed to go, not just where we want them to go. [1:24:34, 1:24:40]: And and will you be providing the uh actual measurements on what you guys are gonna'cause I don't think I could see it on here. [1:24:40, 1:24:46]: We w we will be we have some estimates. Um I apologize, I didn't stop um [1:24:47, 1:24:50]: And spend a lot of time on those measurements, but [1:24:53, 1:24:54]: There we go. [1:24:55, 1:25:15]: So currently this sign is estimated around twenty-seven feet tall. Um we will play with that as well once we start diving a little deeper into how these are engineered. Uh the secondary monument is around eighteen feet. Again, we'll play with those depending on where they're placed. For example, the photograph that we had showed. [1:25:15, 1:25:17]: So [1:25:17, 1:25:25]: Cranes can't lift within a certain distance of power lines, so we have to we are going to dive deeper into the specific locations in the next step. [1:25:25, 1:25:30]: The tertiary monument is uh currently scaled at ten feet. [1:25:30, 1:25:40]: Um you would typically find those um in more suburban areas where you know you simply want a more intimate looking sign that still has some presence. [1:25:41, 1:25:45]: And then the vehicular directional we currently have scaled at twelve feet, which [1:25:45, 1:25:52]: usually allows for your standard six inch tall copy so that it's readable by vehicles going at certain speeds. [1:25:52, 1:25:59]: And then our park guide design we have scaled at a seven foot tall height, which is again, we will do further studies, but [1:25:59, 1:26:04]: It could probably reduce a little bit, but it's not too far off from a more [1:26:05, 1:26:06]: typical size. [1:26:06, 1:26:11]: Okay, c cause the stock bridge sign I see uh I think it's beautiful. [1:26:11, 1:26:18]: But it's gonna have a whole lot of different welding points to it. That's correct. And I just wanna make sure it's gonna be looking like that. [1:26:19, 1:26:30]: Two years from now, you know. Three years from now. Well, it should look like that for twenty years. Well we hope so'cause um that design's gonna have a whole lot of little welding points to it. So Well our [1:26:30, 1:26:50]: And and I apologize. Um we I did not introduce our company, but our our company is over uh thirty years. I've been personally with the company for over seventeen, and um we specialize in architectural signage. So our goal is that unless we intentionally design the sign to show welding connection points and hardware, you're not going to see it. [1:26:50, 1:26:54]: Okay. Thanks. [1:26:55, 1:26:59]: Is I six seventy five not included? [1:27:00, 1:27:06]: Uh I think we did have it on there. For one of those interstate signs. I was just curious. [1:27:07, 1:27:10]: It's one of the best levels to the [1:27:10, 1:27:14]: Oh, the spur. Right. We have one there. I d [1:27:14, 1:27:24]: We need to figure out what our footprint availability is for every location. It's technically best Playton County. So we've gotta kinda figure that out. [1:27:24, 1:27:40]: And honestly that's part of the discussions is um the hierarchy of placement and which again, which signs go in which location. And and our goal for the secondary sign was that where we k may not put [1:27:40, 1:27:47]: the our Eiffel Tower, that the secondary sign is as good of a gateway identifier as the primary. [1:27:51, 1:27:52]: Any other questions from the council? [1:27:53, 1:27:58]: All right, thank you for the presentation. Thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you so much. Uh-huh. [1:27:58, 1:27:59]: Take this. [1:28:02, 1:28:16]: Okay, Council's consideration to approve benefits renewal for calendar year twenty twenty three, United Healthcare for medical dental visual coverage affected January one, twenty twenty three, and it has here Mr. Gardner and Miss Wheeler. [1:28:21, 1:28:22]: Mayor Ford. [1:28:22, 1:28:36]: Yes, ma'am. The previous item, um, it doesn't require an approval from the council. No, not I didn't I that's what I was asking earlier. I didn't think we needed to vote on that. The item on the agenda says council consideration to approve. [1:28:36, 1:28:39]: The city of Stockbridge Wayfinding Site. [1:28:39, 1:28:43]: Uh designs. [1:28:43, 1:28:45]: They don't need an approval from it. Thank you. [1:28:47, 1:28:48]: Okay. [1:28:49, 1:28:50]: I think we're good. [1:28:51, 1:29:07]: Oh y'all, what do y'all it's is uh Okay. I think we what I mean that's what do y'all wanna do? We can take a vote real quick. I mean it don't matter. Well what it is is that we're gonna continue moving in earnest and then come back and come back and come back with those okay, that's what I thought. That's what I thought. [1:29:07, 1:29:14]: No say these this table to come back. That w that way click would have something. [1:29:14, 1:29:32]: Well uh we know okay. Cl okay. Clerk do you clerk you have clarification? You need clarification, are you good or what what do you uh what I noted was that there would she was asking for a consensus to make sure that they were moving in the d in the right direction. [1:29:32, 1:29:39]: And if there was anything that you all needed to delete or eliminate so that they would not continue down that path. [1:29:40, 1:29:57]: All right. Well see they now stepped out of here now too, but um Well I took it as there was a consensus basis. Well that's why I thought there was a consensus from the council. That's why they were the young lady back here was taking notes. Yeah, the young lady in the back was taking notes on everything. So Mayor Ford, can I just um [1:29:58, 1:30:03]: I move for us to approve the City of Stockbridge wayfinding schematic designs. [1:30:04, 1:30:06]: All right, zero second motion. [1:30:07, 1:30:08]: Yes, ma'am. Yes, sir, I'm sorry. [1:30:10, 1:30:30]: Uh Councilmember Barber, if if you would kinda give us to for staff to keep moving in the direction I think as as outlined in the presentation, that would help us more rather than the the approval, because it makes it seem like we're approving what you guys see and it's still not all done yet. Okay. So I motion to um [1:30:30, 1:30:35]: Allow stab to continue with their schematic design work. [1:30:35, 1:30:38]: All right, is there a second to the motion? Second. Okay. All in favor, please indicate. [1:30:40, 1:30:41]: Thank you. Okay. [1:30:42, 1:30:46]: And um Miss Holliday, you you got that ma'am? Okay, it's a good deal. Thank you. [1:30:46, 1:30:47]: Hi Miss Willer. [1:30:47, 1:30:50]: On you ma'am. Okay, good evening, Mayor and Council. [1:30:51, 1:30:54]: Um come before you um this evening to [1:30:54, 1:30:59]: Renew our benefits as always for the next calendar year. [1:31:00, 1:31:01]: Um in your [1:31:02, 1:31:04]: information that you received [1:31:04, 1:31:14]: Um there is a overview of what is taking place for the renewal um for this year and staff's recommendation. [1:31:14, 1:31:20]: Um Tom Hayes, who is from MSI Benefits, will go into more detail of the [1:31:20, 1:31:27]: um the marketing of our benefits to the various carriers and how we have come to the [1:31:27, 1:31:29]: uh to recommend united health care. [1:31:29, 1:31:32]: Um for next year. Okay. [1:31:33, 1:31:34]: Welcome, sir. [1:31:36, 1:31:56]: Uh a question, I guess the air is on, is that what that's what we that noise? Is that heat or air? It sounds like it's probably cold being cold. Yeah, it's uh that's the air. We we just turned the temperature down just a little bit. Okay. Turn it up just a little bit because it was getting kinda cold. Okay. All right, so making adjustments. [1:31:56, 1:31:58]: All right, thank you, sir. Yes, sir, please. [1:31:59, 1:32:19]: Yes, uh good evening, uh Mr. Mayor and City Council. My name's Tom Hayes with MSI Benefits Group. Um I was here, uh John Lega is is uh typically here for each renewal and he had a a conflict, but I work closely with him and and with this renewal that's been going on for uh a couple months since August or so, um looking at the best options for the city Stockbridge. [1:32:18, 1:32:23]: for the uh twenty twenty three health insurance benefits as well as dental envision. [1:32:24, 1:32:44]: Um so everyone should have a uh benefit presentation for today. Um I'll quickly go through page two is just a uh review of what the city did for this for for lat or for the current year for 2022. So this was from from last year. So as of uh the 2022 renewal, uh the city would have [1:32:44, 1:33:04]: Had a medical loss ratio that ran at 108%. Um so the insurance carriers look at that. 108% basically essentially means that for every dollar premium paid, uh Cygna, who's the insurance carrier, is paying a dollar and eight cents out in claims. So as of last year, Cygna had a uh medical renewal workup that [1:33:04, 1:33:18]: requested a 23% renewal increase. Um we going going back with them there was a non-marketed renewal offer from them to reduce it down to a 10% increase, which was accepted by the city. [1:33:18, 1:33:38]: had a non-marketed renewal for 10% uh with no plan change designs, no changes to the employee deductions. Um there was a small increase for the uh dental about eight point uh three percent and then no other changes so the uh overall budget increase for twenty twenty two was a hundred and ninety thousand dollars [1:33:38, 1:33:48]: that put the uh budget for medical and dental for the city for twenty twenty two at uh just about uh two million six hundred two million uh sixty thousand dollars. [1:33:50, 1:34:10]: As of on page three, this is what we're looking at for 2023. Uh like I mentioned, um, we've been working on this for uh for the last few months since uh August when we were able to get Cygnus Renewal and look at other options. The three options you see there, these are the the best options. MSI, we've marketed [1:34:10, 1:34:30]: The the benefits to all the different carriers. So, you know, we had Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield, we had we got a quote from Aetna, a quote from Himana, a quote from Kaiser Permanente. Those other carriers in in a different presentation, they were uh listed on there, but uh you know, simplified it here since those were all higher um and more like increases rather than [1:34:29, 1:34:47]: And then we have a couple really good offers on the table here. So with Cygna, the initial renewal increase was um you'll see on that first uh on the far left there in the middle that you got the current cost and the renewal. They were requesting that it's in the highlighted in yellow 14.7% increase. [1:34:48, 1:35:08]: We took this to market, got a very good renewal back or um proposal back from United Healthcare. We also did look at a self-insured option through uh company called SBR Strategic Benefit Resources, if the city wanted to be self-insured rather than a fully insured option. Uh you'll see in the middle United Healthcare, which uh [1:35:08, 1:35:28]: uh Miss Wheeler had mentioned was looking like the uh would be the the the most uh efficient best option for the city. Um it came back with a ten point five percent decrease from uh from what you are currently paying uh with Cigna. This was presented to Cygna and they came back with uh about five percent decrease. [1:35:28, 1:35:48]: Decrease on what their renewal would be. This is the same plan design. The only change is highlighted in red. For the pharmacy on tiers three and four, it's an increase somewhat for the tier three. Those are usually non-preferred brand name drugs. That'd be a$75 copay rather than$60. And then Tier 4. [1:35:48, 1:35:57]: Which are specialty drugs would be$150 copay, which is a more standard copay for a specialty drug that falls under tier four. [1:35:57, 1:36:13]: Um now then then there's also the SBR self-insured option off to the right there. You'll see that's about 8.5% decrease. Uh so it was looking, you know, that's a also a good option, but the United Healthcare did come in uh lower than that as well. Um [1:36:13, 1:36:33]: Down below in the orange, you will see that that shows what the annual net increase or decrease would be. So in United Healthcare, if you accepted this renewal or this proposal, your uh annual net decrease would be$371,000. Um$371,126 uh for 2023. [1:36:33, 1:36:53]: Now, with the Cygna renewal, you'll see there's some renewal notes off to the right side there. What that's talking about is with Cigna, you're currently on a, they call it like a level-funded uh plan, which means that the city could be eligible to get a surplus at the end of the year if you run well with your claims. And through subconscious, [1:36:53, 1:37:13]: September, your claims the city would would could get a refund of about$83,000. If that kept on running as is, the refund could be$100,000. Thinking down below, when you're looking at this revised renewal with Cigna, your annual net decrease. [1:37:13, 1:37:28]: decrease would be 170,000. If the claims happened, you know did run that same way and you got a$100,000 surplus, you'd be at$270,000 decrease while the United Healthcare quote is$100,000 cheaper than that, still at$371. [1:37:29, 1:37:33]: Um and then the the self insured options at three hundred thousand. [1:37:35, 1:37:36]: Um [1:37:37, 1:37:52]: The following page I can kind of skip over that's when SBR Advantage and the self-insured plan, the third option that we were showing on there. Um, you know, initially that was looking like the best option, but again, that United Healthcare fully insured plan uh was was offered. [1:37:53, 1:37:58]: On page five is your dental renewal and also options. So [1:37:59, 1:38:06]: Uh Cygna, which is who the city currently has for their dental envision, uh had a four point uh eight two. [1:38:06, 1:38:26]: uh percent increase for the dental. So it'd be going for that 35.99 for employee only is up to 3772 is a a monthly premium for for an employee. United healthcare had matched with the the current plan design as well as what the current rates are. So there would be no change in in in the cost or the deductions. Another important thing [1:38:26, 1:38:28]: to note is with United Healthcare. [1:38:28, 1:38:48]: the um medical rates that are shown here are showing a two two and two point five percent bundled discount um if you add the dental envision. So it's be of it it would be advised that if you were gonna go with United Healthcare, you'd want to to take the dental envision to get that two and a half points off your medical uh premiums. [1:38:48, 1:38:58]: Uh Aetna was also proposed on there as a standalone, a little bit lower, same plan design, still covering the employee 100% for dental insurance. [1:39:00, 1:39:04]: Visions on page six and it's uh kind of the same story here. [1:39:04, 1:39:20]: United Healthcare matched the uh plan design. It actually has a little bit better, pays thirty percent after a hundred thirty dollar allowance on frames. So it's uh you know, tad better than the current plan, and also matched um Cygna's current plan and which was a a flat renewal on there. [1:39:22, 1:39:42]: Um the next few pages is with uh AFLAC. So currently the city has individual uh accident insurance, there's a critical ill illness insurance, and then there's a hospital indemnity insurance. These are supplemental insurance um policies that are um you know that are optional for insurance. [1:39:42, 1:40:02]: employees and right now as an individual um apparently there's been some customer service issues with it each plan um you know it's it's it's uh a little bit harder to to handle administratively so we're offering on here there's like a group group insurance rather than an individual plan so we can move it [1:40:02, 1:40:22]: It to a group group uh crit group accident, group critic group critical illness, and a group hospital indemnity. And um it should just make it easier uh administratively. Everything could be uh enrolled online through the benefit um enrollment site instead of uh individual um paper applications. Um also could be in the [1:40:22, 1:40:30]: The employee benefit handbook, and uh usually with the customer service, it's it's we're seeing that it's just been a little bit better than those individual plans. [1:40:30, 1:40:48]: If employee did want to keep their certain critical illness plan, they still could too. It would just be off the payroll deduction and they could just pay that, you know, as a monthly payment to AFLAC if they didn't want to switch over to like a group plan instead. So they still have the option to keep their individual plan if if they uh really wanted to. [1:40:51, 1:41:01]: Um and then on page ten is just a quick summary of everything that I was just talking about. So you can see um you know the annual premium. [1:41:02, 1:41:05]: Yeah, I'm tapping ten. [1:41:06, 1:41:10]: Unless they have a different presentation. Okay. [1:41:11, 1:41:23]: I guess it's on page nine for your presentation. Um and that simply just shows uh your an annual budget and um looking between the medical dental vision and the totals on there. So [1:41:23, 1:41:24]: Um [1:41:24, 1:41:44]: You know, for the the medical on there you'd be with if with United Healthcare, um employees would have no different cost and the city would be seeing a ten point five percent decrease for uh twenty twenty three. Um so the annual net total would be uh three million hundred four uh forty eight thousand and some change. [1:41:47, 1:42:07]: And and that's it. That's everything. I think you have a question, sir? Yeah. Go right in, please. That's uh obviously this sounds like a win. Um with three hundred and seventy one thousand thousand dollars in savings. I mean it's kinda like a no brainer. The only thing the only question that I really had was I always like, you know, when we're passing on costs to [1:42:07, 1:42:27]: the employees to see what we can do to minimize that. Now you went over some things about uh some of the costs going up in terms of what the prescriptions uh benefits. Just for it's for a non-preferred brand name and specialty drugs, right? So to explain that to me, so what is that so that's d if they don't get [1:42:27, 1:42:29]: Get the generic brand or what what [1:42:29, 1:42:47]: Right. This is um vast majority of of employees would be taking a tier one or tier two. Tier one are like your basic generic drugs, pretty cheap, like um blood pressure medicine or something like that. Tier two um are gonna be like uh preferred brand name drugs out there. [1:42:48, 1:43:07]: Yeah, so some a little bit like yeah, so brand name and a little bit more expensive than just uh the generics. So tiers three and four is gonna be a uh probably smaller amount of people who who would actually take that. Um and usually tier three it's like a non-preferred, so usually there's a preferred one there. Like your eloquence, some of the very high [1:43:08, 1:43:10]: specialty drugs that employ um that [1:43:11, 1:43:18]: individuals are taking now that you see advertised a lot. Some of those drugs may fall into the specialty drug. [1:43:18, 1:43:28]: um category. We don't know exactly what the different drugs are out there, but we know that eloquists, um, jardiance [1:43:28, 1:43:48]: Um some of them fall under that. I mean I take one but I'm able to get it under the tier one or tier two. But it's some of your high level specialty drugs that employees all the time. So in essence they would still still be able to get the medication. So somebody's on a heart medication or they on some type of brand they could get it, they just couldn't get it [1:43:48, 1:43:54]: Depending depending on what their doctor prescribes for them. [1:43:54, 1:44:14]: But they'll still be able to get the dr any type of pharmacy. So the premium the markup is just if they want a specialty drug. Right. Some people do not like generics type of things. Yeah, if it's like a non preferred um then that would be what the markup would be. Or a specialty or like the ver you know, uh uh the really high expensive drugs, the ones [1:44:14, 1:44:33]: That could be, you know, five thousand dollars a month, ten thousand. Usually specialty drug is anything that's over like a thousand dollars a month. So um, you know, the the very, very expensive ones. And that and the hundred and fifty is um honestly what you all had right now is the sixty dollars. That's very, very low. Uh 150 is a more [1:44:33, 1:44:42]: more standard about what the copay generally is for a drug like that. The you know, the subscriber and member paying the one hundred fifty dollars, um, and then the rest covered for'em. [1:44:43, 1:45:03]: So I guess my d i if we saving three hundred and seventy one thousand dollars to start with, to begin with, if you change that to what we currently have, how much would that affect the pol how much would that affect where we are? If we went you said we're doing sixty now, if we made that number sixty and this is how does that fluctuate the dollar amount that we [1:45:03, 1:45:05]: [6305.6, 6325.6]: So United Healthcare, this is like a fully insured plan. And they have kind of um set plan designs that they offer. Um they're not as like customizable as like a fully insured plan uh can be. And even for Cigna, they can customize theirs a little bit more. Um usually United Healthcare and Anthem, a few other carriers, kind of just um [1:45:25, 1:45:34]: Um I guess for their own uh admin, uh they just have like a set plans that they they design and offer. So you can't really uh you can't [1:45:35, 1:45:55]: uh customize as much for each co-pay on there. So so what have that smaller I just want to make sure that we're we're not in c we're not putting somebody in a position that they need a drug then you know you to us going from sixty dollars to a hundred and fifty dollars might not be a big deal but to someone else who's making less [1:45:55, 1:46:01]: Yes, it may be. So you're saying this is an anomaly that somebody might find themselves in that category? [1:46:02, 1:46:22]: Um yeah, I mean I I'm not sure how many people are taking like a specialty drug, but it's um usually for more serious cases for like MS or if you have cancer or something like that, which you probably meet your max out of pocket either way, um, for a lot of those. And then this the tier three that fluctuates with the formulary that these carriers make. Um [1:46:22, 1:46:42]: And usually there's other alternatives out there um if they didn't want to pay the$75 copay to look at having you know be a preferred brand instead. But but see that's the thing that kind of get me. See if somebody's on cancer drug, I don't know if I want, you know, raise their rate. So that's why I was asking if there's as a trade-off to whether we could kinda, you know, take [1:46:42, 1:46:54]: You know, not get three seventy one, maybe get three sixty one and keep them at the same place they already are. Right. I I would use I'll use me as an example. Right. So I had to [1:46:54, 1:47:04]: I was prescribed a a drug by um I specialist and that drug was five thousand dollars or six thousand dollars. [1:47:05, 1:47:22]: My um primary care doctor obviously recognized that that was those premium drugs and gave me a substitute that was in the hundred dollar range versus that that premium amount. She she said that there's something else out there for you to utilize rather than that drug. [1:47:23, 1:47:29]: Um, so that's what I actually end up having to use. Uh, you know, if I could afford to pay the five thousand I would've but [1:47:30, 1:47:30]: You know. [1:47:31, 1:47:51]: I I and I don't know, we don't probably have the numbers with us on maybe how many of our employees would or prefer those, but I will tell you that it's it's probably less than the people you fingers you could count on your hands in terms of the number of employees who might actually want that type of drug or or probably would prefer it and their doctor would always [1:47:51, 1:47:53]: to give them the alternative if you can. [1:47:55, 1:47:57]: Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [1:47:57, 1:48:17]: Yeah, thank you for your presentation. The the thing that concerns me and and in line with Mr. Alexander, the thing that concerns me when you fit uh switching uh providers, help providers, is one of the things you have to look at is that when those people that have pre existing conditions, how does it fold over to the other help provider? [1:48:17, 1:48:18]: What [1:48:18, 1:48:38]: uh because they dictate what drugs they're going to cover and not cover. And if they cover you, they dictate rather they're gonna cover that as a higher cost and that may be outside line with what they're what the people are paying now. So you you you look at uh pre existing conditions and and the coverage they have now and you look at uh the doctors [1:48:38, 1:48:39]: Under [1:48:39, 1:48:45]: the the doctors that they have, if they're specialty doctors, were those doctors still changed over also? [1:48:46, 1:48:53]: You know, w w because I remember that we we had United Healthcare at one time, and then when all that big conflict happened. [1:48:53, 1:48:59]: And I'm gonna say it because it's public information. When all the big conflict happened with Peak Mont Hospital, they just dropped the [1:49:00, 1:49:05]: it i it put everybody in a bind. And that's why we left United Healthcare in the first place. I remember that. [1:49:05, 1:49:12]: Mm-hmm. This is why we left United Healthcare because they operate under a different system than Signa operates under anyway. [1:49:13, 1:49:13]: So [1:49:14, 1:49:26]: I'm for me, I'm not for United Healthcare because of that, because of how they operate. And it's a totally different system schematically on what they do versus how Signa operates. [1:49:27, 1:49:47]: Yeah, um just to respond to that, I mean mo yeah, all these insurance carriers, you know, obviously have a network of providers that they work with and they have to negotiate with those providers and and and in that case sometimes it does, you know, where there's a conflict. It's uh there's a big one with Northside Medical Center and Anthem that finally got resolved. [1:49:47, 1:50:07]: After, you know, I think it was like eight months of them going back and forth at each other. Um so that is usually kind of a battle between these carriers. And sometimes um, you know, that has happened, like you know, healthcare and like Well Star at one point, but those uh contracts have been uh renewed since then. Um but can I can I interrupt you one second? Yes, sir. So you can adjust. [1:50:07, 1:50:11]: And what's common among health providers [1:50:11, 1:50:16]: Із гів'юсь да во бета анон компетер. [1:50:17, 1:50:25]: So they'll give you prices that we can get their business, but then next thing you know, those prices go up because that's not operational costs. [1:50:26, 1:50:35]: When you look at what we're do if you let me just put it, let me put it in layman terms. You got ten people and five of them are are costing more. [1:50:35, 1:50:37]: They'll do a competitive price. [1:50:37, 1:50:52]: But once they get your business next year, they're gonna go what's best operational for them. They're gonna say, hey, these five are costing us money. We can't operate with y'all like this unless we do. That's just how the system works. So these introductory prices that we're getting. [1:50:52, 1:51:12]: This is what I've seen since I've been on this council. That's everybody, Mr. Blount. And that's and that's what concerns me, Mr. Uh Gardner, is that these competitive the competitive rates versus introductory rates, that concerns me when you're talking about employees that have doctors, that have pre-existing additions, that that are that that have medications that [1:51:12, 1:51:32]: They have to have when you start to move around that money sometimes don't add up the dollar figure versus the house that you may be putting on employees. Right. So go ahead. Um I'm shooting my turn. When you change provide when you if you change provider and all of your associated costs are the same or they're lower. [1:51:32, 1:51:33]: You know. [1:51:34, 1:51:51]: One of the things they're gonna look at a year from now is what our claim ratios are. Right. And that's every insurance company in this country. They're going to look at if you had ten cancer events, then they're you that that changes the dynamics of what you're going to pay the next year. [1:51:51, 1:52:11]: Right. They they lock you in as much as you can, but the cost that you're getting today is a cost that you're locked into for the next year. Obviously they're gonna re-evaluate us based on our claim rate. That's that's the same thing if you hit your car. Your insurance rate is gonna go up the more you hit your car. Mr. Garden, I've I fully one hundred percent [1:52:11, 1:52:18]: Understand that system. So you're I understand that. But what we have to look at when we're changing providers. [1:52:19, 1:52:21]: And we had the professional here. [1:52:21, 1:52:29]: Those numbers are deflated for business, not actual numbers for operation. I'm trying to tell you now, I know this for a fact. [1:52:30, 1:52:35]: And if you can speak to that, you've seen it happen. You have to seen it happen. [1:52:36, 1:52:56]: These are, you know, they're underwritten firm rates. So uh whenever we send these for proposals, we send them um, you know, what what Cigna is at and the census and they have underwriters review the risk and and provide what the premiums are gonna be, what they would offer for a twelve month contract on there. So everything on there is set for the you know. [1:52:56, 1:53:16]: know that would be set for the entire year. The plan design would be you know set. So if somebody does have higher claims, they're gonna pay that. They look at a whole bunch of different factors on there. Y'all were running the city was running at 108% loss ratio. United Healthcare uh can be aggressive with their with their proposal [1:53:16, 1:53:36]: proposals because they think um I mean they they have contracts with you know these different providers and some carriers a little bit more aggressive with their contracts than others. So if Cygna's like, well, you know, with uh Well Star, we'll pay you this much and much for the contract. United Healthcare may take a little bit hard more hard-nosed stance at it and they paid them less for the exact same [1:53:36, 1:53:56]: service. Um, you know, CT scan with Cigna, they could be paying, you know,$2,000. United Healthcare is paying twelve hundred dollars. And they see the, you know, a network savings there that they could be a little bit more aggressive with the rates. Um we market the benefits every year, usually starting in around October or so. Um so you know changes can be made if [1:53:56, 1:54:16]: if if uh if it's not something you know that that employees are happy with because that's that's the main um concern and want to make sure that it's a smooth tr transition. Anytime you change insurance carriers, um it's kind of you know it's it's a big deal. Obviously people are on have uh doctors and and you know if they have certain prescriptions they're taking um [1:54:16, 1:54:36]: You know, we do an open enrollment and try to make sure all employees are aware of the change, the sit down with the benefit counselor, go over, you know, the d any changes that are happening, like with the copay there for the tiers three and four, get uh make sure they have a prior authorization for any um prescriptions that they are on, so there's no like hiccup when January first starts. [1:54:35, 1:54:41]: Um usually that's the big thing is like a PA or prior authorization for drugs. Um [1:54:41, 1:55:01]: But you know, any other pre-existing condition or anything like that, United Healthcare with this proposal is accepting the risk of the group and the health of the group as is. So um, you know, there's uh not a concern of if somebody has a ongoing illness that was being covered a certain way with Cigna is all of a sudden going to be declined and not covered. [1:55:01, 1:55:21]: And as far as the networks, um, you know, these are both the OAP is the open access plus networks, Cigna's large, like nationwide um network on there, and United Healthcare has this choice plus insurance, and that's essentially their same large network, you know, very similar to that, pretty much overlaps um very [1:55:21, 1:55:27]: like ninety eight, ninety nine percent. So like most any doc you know, most doctors should be in either network. [1:55:28, 1:55:44]: But there I I understand your concern about changing carriers. It you know, it's um it's you know, there's more work involved and and and have to you know, wanna make sure employees are aware. We just saw with the savings that the city could s uh have that it was worth looking at. [1:55:47, 1:56:07]: Go right ahead, please. Uh you know, Mr. Blount, I certainly can uh agree with what you're saying in terms of you know having the caution and that's why I asked some of the questions that I asked. But generally agreeing, you're telling us that we will be able to save three hundred and seventy one thousand dollars, pretty much everybody what what the people [1:56:07, 1:56:22]: have now they will be covered uh under up to the same degree and that's not gonna change for the next twelve months and should this situ should and I w this will be we'll be back in the same position next year to do it out again if we need be, if we need to change again. [1:56:23, 1:56:43]: Yes, yes, we could change again if you know, if uh United Healthcare doesn't you know, if there's customer service issues or or issues that uh you'll you all have that you'd want to change it, we could certainly change again. Um, you know, we don't know what the renewal will be like next year. Hopefully it's it's a really good one. These are all fantastic options. Um [1:56:43, 1:56:52]: You know, to be honest, I mean it's great to see a decrease uh anytime or even a flat renewal these days. Yeah, so it's all they're all good news. Um [1:56:52, 1:57:12]: Uh but yes we certainly look at that each year and can present a variety you know variety of options every year if you guys want to take a different direction. Uh based on what the recommendation is, I'm gonna go ahead and make a motion to approve and uh with the savings of three hundred and seventy-one thousand dollars and uh base getting um comp comparable coverage. [1:57:12, 1:57:14]: for the next twelve months. [1:57:14, 1:57:15]: Zero second. [1:57:17, 1:57:21]: There are second. Oh Miss Barber seconds that. Okay. All in favor, please indicate. [1:57:23, 1:57:35]: Okay, I'll approve. Uh opposed? You No, I mean if that's what it the the direction of the council wants to go, I approve it. Okay, you approve. So it's four four. Unanimous decision. Unanimous decision four-o. Okay, thank you very much, sir. Appreciate the presentation. [1:57:36, 1:57:38]: Thank you, Ms. Mayor. Thank you, Councilman. [1:57:39, 1:57:51]: Council consideration approved the first uh progress briefing of the city council summarizing the benefits of uh establishing a tax allocation district and scheduled through adoption. Mr Gardner, please. [1:57:53, 1:58:02]: Yes, real quick, Mayor and Council. Um one of the things we've been working on as part of our initiative to provide for economic development. [1:58:03, 1:58:09]: um and economic development incentives was looking at how can we maximize [1:58:09, 1:58:19]: Um some of the existing plans that we have in place that would give us the authority to move forward with a tax allocation district. Um [1:58:19, 1:58:23]: The use of a tax allocation district was approved by the voters in twenty twenty. [1:58:24, 1:58:44]: Um that had to go on on the ballot and the majority of Henry County residents approved for Henry County and the four municipalities to develop tax tax allocation districts as part of their economic development incentive program. Um and so when we talk about a tad, you have two or three [1:58:44, 1:58:48]: three major tides in the state in the metro area that most folks know about. [1:58:48, 1:58:50]: The biggest one being Atlantic Station. [1:58:51, 1:58:54]: That used to be, if you remember, used to be a old steel mill. [1:58:55, 1:59:01]: Um back in the day and the cost associated with developing that property was prohibitive [1:59:02, 1:59:03]: Outside of the use of the tad. [1:59:04, 1:59:24]: And so with that, they were able to clean up the environmental issues associated with the old steel mill. And what you have here today is a vibrant mixed-use development in that on that same property, where before it was undevelopable because of the environmental challenge. The other one is located in the city of East Point. [1:59:24, 1:59:34]: The Cam Creek Marketplace on Cam Creek Parkway, right there off the Interstate 285. That's one of the actually the highest performing TAD right now in the state of Georgia. [1:59:35, 1:59:55]: That development would not have happened because the property on which it was developed had no infrastructure and needed it needed to be developed. And so that bond is actually moving in terms of paying it off in 30 years, is actually being paid off in 23. Um, I think it'll be paid off at the end of this year, if I'm not mistaken. Um it's one of the actually the highest. [1:59:55, 2:00:15]: Performing Tide. What this does is allow for us to make some infrastructure improvements, whether it be the use of a parking deck or water sewer, as we look to develop our downtown area and associate areas within the TIDE district for mixed use development and associated um commercial development. [2:00:15, 2:00:25]: What we did was I brought on our Blakely group to help us coordinate this effort because we had a lot of documents. We've we've we've moved somewhere down the road as it relates to [2:00:25, 2:00:45]: What's necessary to create a TAD. And so they're helping us put all of that together to to bring this TAD to fruition. That will be one of the biggest tools in our toolbox if we are able to get it approved through the main council. Along with some other incentives that we're gonna be working with the state. [2:00:45, 2:00:49]: So with that I'm gonna turn it over to Gary Mangian. [2:00:50, 2:00:59]: um to with the uh K B group to kinda give you guys um what he's found in in his work and the steps moving forward. Gary? [2:01:02, 2:01:22]: Thank you, Mayor and Council. Um I know it's getting late, and you have absorbed a tremendous amount of information tonight. Um and so I'm gonna continue that process, but I'm gonna try to go as fast as I can, I promise, and uh save time for questions and be respectful for your for your time. Um [2:01:22, 2:01:42]: Um Fred's kind of given you a good overview of uh what we've been uh retained to do. What I would like to do tonight, this is just informational uh to give you a sense of what's gonna happen in the next 45 days to get you to the point where if you choose to, you could adopt a redevelopment plan and establish a tax allocation. [2:01:42, 2:01:45]: district uh focusing on downtown. [2:01:47, 2:02:07]: Um to do that I just got to give you some a few uh definitions. Um you know, first, what is the Georgia Redevelopment Powers Law? That's the law that uh enables communities like Stockbridge to use what's called tax increment financing, which I'll explain in more detail later. Every state in the union and the District of Columbia. [2:02:07, 2:02:27]: Columbia uses this tool. About 80 cities and counties in Georgia already have approved redevelopment plans and tax allocation districts. Probably Henry was probably one of the last counties in Georgia, well, the urban counties to authorize redevelopment powers. [2:02:26, 2:02:43]: The closest TADs to you would be, again, East Point was mentioned, Forrest Park, College Park, South Fulton just approved a TAD last year. There are three tax allocation districts and unincorporated Clayton County. [2:02:43, 2:02:53]: So there were a number of these uh fairly near nearby, including Union City. And and so what's a tax allocation district? Well a ta a tax allocation district [2:02:53, 2:03:13]: Is basically an assembly of tax parcels where the local government have those parcels have to be within an approved redevelopment area and meet the definition and requirements of state law, where the local government has determined that tax increment financing could be used. The only requirements is be in a redevelopment area and the parcel. [2:03:13, 2:03:28]: Parcels are contiguous. This is an example of a TAD approved in 2021 in Canton, Georgia, surrounding their downtown, which would be pretty similar to what we're proposing or you could be considering here later in the year. [2:03:29, 2:03:48]: Um if you were to approve a redevelopment plan uh before December thirty-first, the TAD could become in effect uh in twenty twenty three. If you choose not to do that, then next available opportunity would be December of twenty twenty three to go into effect in twenty twenty four. [2:03:50, 2:04:06]: Um TADs usually have a a a finite life, uh typically twenty five to thirty years, but in some cases, as Fred mentioned, the TADs could be dissolved uh sooner. [2:04:07, 2:04:27]: Um so how does tax increment financing work? Uh well in Georgia communities are uh eligible to pledge real estate, personal property, and sales taxes up to 50 years for tax increment financing purposes. Typically in Georgia, only real estate taxes are pledged. [2:04:26, 2:04:36]: Uh typically no more for th than thirty years, but the Ellenwood Tad in Clayton County just up the road uh pledged uh their portion of the local option sales tax. [2:04:37, 2:04:38]: Um [2:04:39, 2:04:59]: The real estate tax that can be pledged includes both the city real estate tax, which you don't have one at the moment, as well as county and school district taxes. And the ability to get the consent of the county and school district is where the bulk of the revenue would come from to make [2:04:59, 2:05:19]: This work in your downtown. Basically, what would happen as of December 31st of this year if you approve the TAD, the base digest for the district would be set. From that point forward, all property taxes or any taxes that are pledged for the TAD associated with that base digest would continue to go to the general fund. [2:05:19, 2:05:39]: Funds of the city, county, and school district. Any incremental property taxes associated with value increases brought about by new private development in the district would go into a special fund managed by the City of Stockbridge to use to pay eligible redevelopment costs, which can be in the form of incentives to private. [2:05:39, 2:05:59]: Developers or public improvements to make help make projects financially feasible. In the case of the East Point TAD Friend mentioned, the revenues were used for public infrastructure. And other TADs that go directly to development incentives. I give you three quick examples of TADs located in downtown. [2:05:59, 2:06:19]: Areas and suburban locations. One is in Duluth. Right around the time you built this city hall, Duluth built a city hall on a very large town green in the center of their community. Their main street commercial district was about the size of yours next door. They assembled a lot of property around their new city hall, created a tax [2:06:19, 2:06:39]: Tax allocation district, and so far in about seven years, they have attracted$350 million in private investment. Most of it's completed. Uh they turned the site of their old city hall into a uh dining uh district with 10 restaurants. Um and again, they've they've incentivized seven. [2:06:39, 2:06:59]: Several hundred uh apartment units, townhomes, single-family homes, a hotel. I've been probably the most successful downtown TAD in Georgia percentage-wise in the Metro. Downtown Gainesville is another example. Gainesville about 2007. [2:06:59, 2:07:19]: Created a TAD for their what they call Midtown Gainesville District. They have never issued any bonds. They've basically done so far 10 what they call reimbursement agreements, where they just negotiate agreements with developers who are doing projects from small office buildings and rehabs all the way up to large [2:07:19, 2:07:39]: Multifamily developments and just negotiated agreements. If you create increment within our TED, we'll give you back a portion of that increment to make your project uh feasible. And so far, they've done again 10 projects and 150 million dollars in investment. And then the final example is downtown Douglasville. [2:07:39, 2:07:59]: Uh, which is creating right now is in the middle of constructing an amphitheater not nearly as large as yours in terms of capacity, but they took the south the site of the Douglas County Jail, which is about eleven acres located on the fringe of their downtown. They acquired that from the county, they demolished the jail site, they're building the amphitheater now. [2:07:59, 2:08:16]: And they've created a development site, about seven-acre development site for mixed use, multifamily development. They're on their second developer, it's probably gonna be an eighty million dollar project, and they wanna use the tax increment from that project to pay a portion of the debt service on the amphitheater bonds. [2:08:16, 2:08:36]: So that's just three examples. Fairly similar strategy uh to what you've been doing in Stockbridge. It's just been an enormous amount of public investment in and around within a quarter mile, half mile radius of this building over the last two decades plus. And now this tool is intended to help incentivize private investment. [2:08:36, 2:08:40]: uh to capitalize on all these public improvements you made. [2:08:41, 2:09:01]: So I mentioned this had this has to be part of a redevelopment plan, uh which the city council must adopt. Um and a redevelopment plan and a redevelopment area basically sets the geography which in Stockbridge that would qualify for this tool. [2:09:01, 2:09:21]: Development area has to meet certain definitional requirements in the state law. They're specified in the statute. It's up to us as your analysts to make sure the area we propose qualifies. It is part of a plan. And the tax allocation district can be the same geography as. [2:09:21, 2:09:38]: as a redevelopment area or the redevelopment area can be substantially larger and can actually have more than one tax allocation district within it. The only requirement is that the TAD must be contiguous and it must lie entirely within the boundary of a qualified redevelopment area. [2:09:40, 2:09:45]: Uh what qualifies a redevelopment area, again, it's it's there's a big long definition in the statute. [2:09:45, 2:10:05]: Uh and it's basically centered around growth. Uh areas of your community that have not grown as fast as other parts of the city, uh, where property values aren't as high as other parts of the city, there may be high vacancy rates, high poverty rates, high unemployment. The one thing that's not in the definition is slums and blight. That's under a different definition. [2:10:05, 2:10:25]: That's under the Urban Redevelopment Act, which you have an urban redevelopment area that includes this building. You always get somebody in a public hearing that says, Well, this area doesn't have slums and blight, it doesn't qualify. Well, that's a different statute. As a city council, you have to approve a resolution that declares. [2:10:25, 2:10:41]: declares that this area has suffered from inadequate investment, meets the definition, et cetera, et cetera. There's also this catch-all provision in the law that talks about the existence of conditions that, quote, substantially impair the sound growth of the community. [2:10:41, 2:10:48]: And what that basically means is that over the last two decades, you've done at least three plans that I know of for your downtown. [2:10:48, 2:11:08]: And to date, downtown doesn't look, it doesn't satisfy the vision that is articulated in those plans. So that's the basis. I mean, you've you've created these plans, you want your downtown to develop in certain ways. It hasn't happened because of financial feasibility reasons, and that's why you're doing [2:11:08, 2:11:24]: this. It's not because the area is blighted or full of slums or any of that kind of stuff. It's just not grown the way the city and your residents have stated that they want it in various planning efforts over over the last two decades. [2:11:25, 2:11:45]: Uh what information is required in a redevelopment plan? Well it's up to us to to make sure we write the plan that in in compliance with state law. We've done about 60 of these. Um so we have that kind of down pat. But basically, it just justifies the designation of the redevelopment area, sets out a strategy for [2:11:45, 2:12:05]: Accomplishing your goals, identifies eligible activities and costs, forecasts revenues, and sets the boundaries of the tax allocation district. That's what the plan does, in addition to some other things. The only other caveat you should be aware of that no jurisdiction can put more than 10% of its tax digest. [2:12:05, 2:12:12]: In tax allocation districts, whether that's one district or ten, like Atlanta has, is a maximum 10% cap. [2:12:15, 2:12:25]: So in Stockbridge, we've looked at a potential redevelopment area, run some demographics, pulled some um uh commercial property information. [2:12:25, 2:12:27]: And that area is kind of in yellow. [2:12:27, 2:12:47]: And it's pretty similar to the boundaries of the LCI plan that you did way back in 2001 that was updated in 2012. And within that TAD, within that redevelopment area, we're kind of looking in the red inside those red areas of areas that potentially could be within a tax L. [2:12:47, 2:12:48]: [7969.8, 7983.1]: Again, that's just what we're thinking right now. It's all preliminary. We hope to get your input, but that's kind of our current thinking of what would make sense and is consistent with what you've done in the past. [2:13:04, 2:13:12]: So, what's the rationale for this area? Again, we've looked at the demographics and commercial property values, et cetera. Um, it basically [2:13:13, 2:13:18]: It's basically identical to the uh LCI study area that's already been looked at. [2:13:18, 2:13:19]: Um [2:13:19, 2:13:39]: It clearly qualifies under the definition based on demographic income characteristics, the age of the housing stock, the relatively low value of the housing stock compared to the rest of the city, relatively slow uh growth in a number of areas, um, commercial rents, vacancy rates, etc. Um, and again. [2:13:39, 2:13:45]: And it also falls under that rubric of impairing the sound growth of the community because we can cite [2:13:45, 2:14:05]: The LCI study, the RSVP plan that you did in 2018, the LCI update, and your comprehensive plan all talk about this area and wanting to make investments in this area, increase density, do mixed-use development, have more people living downtown. All those things haven't happened to this point, and this is what the purpose of the [2:14:05, 2:14:08]: purpose of creating this tax allocation district is all about. [2:14:10, 2:14:30]: Uh that geography also includes when we drew the redevelopment area, it includes most of the city-owned property that you've assembled over the years, some of which you're using for public purposes, otherwise other sites you've disassembled eventually for purposes of making available for redevelopment. [2:14:30, 2:14:37]: and also some of the larger private uh undeveloped sites that are still available in this part of the city. [2:14:39, 2:14:50]: Um in the discussion about the amphitheater, there was talking you uh Councilman Blount were talking about well, what kind of examples do you rely upon? There is sort of a [2:14:50, 2:15:10]: Kind of an informal best practices that has developed over the years in terms of how do you right-size a tax allocation district. And again, we've done our firms worked on 40 to 50 of these things. I've done at least two to three dozen of these over my career. The important thing is to get the [2:15:10, 2:15:30]: Boundaries right because once you establish a tax allocation district is certified to a base year, if you decide three years from now you want to add some parcels, you have to reset the base to the values three years from now. So you lose any increment that's created. So it's important to get these things these things right the first time. And how we think about the [2:15:30, 2:15:43]: Geography, uh well first of all it's gotta reflect the strategy articulated in the redevelopment plan. Um that's pretty obvious. Um we try to include sites within the TAD where [2:15:43, 2:16:03]: Projects are planned or could happen both sh in the short term and things that could happen five years from now, ten years from now, that we haven't even thought about as a city. [2:16:03, 2:16:16]: necessarily the same places. Revenues generated within a TAD can be spent on eligible activities anywhere within the TAD, which makes it even more flexible than tax abatement types of redevelopment tools. [2:16:18, 2:16:38]: And we also like to include some properties where maybe nothing's going to happen on them directly, but as a result of investments that are going to incur, those values are going to increase uh over time as a result of being next to three or four or five significant projects. So we've included some residential subdivisions. You know, we don't [2:16:38, 2:16:58]: Expect you know houses to be demolished or any of that, but we expect values to increase over time because of other investments that are being that are being made. And we also try to exclude you know high-valued parcels that already have a high tax digest value and probably aren't going to change whether or not [2:16:58, 2:17:18]: You do this, that just chews up the amount of digest you can put in these districts. And then finally, there's always a political consideration. You don't want to do any anything that's likely to reduce your chances of getting consent from the county and school district. So those we're not familiar with those kinds of issues. [2:17:18, 2:17:20]: But that's you know where your input would be helpful. [2:17:21, 2:17:31]: Uh this next slide shows a study area that we're looking at. I've actually assembled property information for this area is three hundred and forty four parcels inside that white shaded area. [2:17:32, 2:17:52]: It's about 35.7 million in taxable digest within that area. Um it's about it's less than three and a half percent of the city tax digest. So it's kind of right in the ballpark. These boundaries are certainly going to change before you act on them, but this is kind of a first cut of what we're thinking. The interesting thing. [2:17:52, 2:18:12]: There's 323 existing housing units, including 131 single-family homes in this area. The average age of the housing stock is 55 years. And the thing that I found really interesting is that almost 36% of those single-family homes are owned by investors and rented. [2:18:12, 2:18:32]: And typically we find when you get into single-family neighborhoods when more than 20% of the housing units are invested or owned, that's when you start having problems. So again, that's kind of a kind of a thing we looked at to try to include: okay, which subdivisions do we include in the TED? Which do we leave out? You could obviously expand. [2:18:32, 2:18:52]: Expand this, contract this, but this is kind of our current thinking. There's also 132 acres of city-owned property in this TAD. Again, most of it's actively being used for things, but also includes some parcels that long term you want to make available for redevelopment. [2:18:52, 2:19:03]: And there's also 130 acres, including city-owned property, that's vacant and underdeveloped, which other people, you know, private sector owners could could develop in the future as well. [2:19:05, 2:19:25]: This next slide just kind of shows various areas, parcels within the within the potential TAD that are vacant where projects uh could occur. I've talked to Fred about some of these possibilities, other are just you know pure conjecture at this point. Um and again, the area immediately surrounding City Hall and [2:19:25, 2:19:37]: in and and your core downtown, you have ample plans to um you know to talk about implementing. And we're gonna try to put some numbers on what could happen inside those areas for the next meeting. [2:19:38, 2:19:58]: So what we're going to do next is we're going to continue to work on the boundaries and give you, you know, specific reasons and data on why the redevelopment area qualifies. Uh we're going to continue to work on the TAD boundaries and propose something to you, establish some kind of way that we could get input from the city council as well if you want to give [2:19:58, 2:20:18]: It to us. Start to look at potential projects, put numbers on potential projects, what revenues those projects could generate. TSW Design, who's been working with the city, who working on the Cultural Arts Center, among other things, is assisting us in that process of quantifying what's possible. [2:20:18, 2:20:21]: [8423.3, 8431.4]: And again, we're gonna kind of give you some forecast information and and suggest some potential uses of those proceeds. [2:20:31, 2:20:51]: So, how the schedule would play out is that in your November 14th meeting, we would come back with a presentation with that information, which essentially would say, summarize in a PowerPoint what the redevelopment plan is actually going to say. That gives you kind of a full month to think about that, suggest changes. [2:20:51, 2:21:11]: Et cetera, et cetera. We hope to deliver a draft of the redevelopment plan around the 21st of November, about a week prior to your November 29th City Council meeting. You are required by law to hold at least one public hearing to adopt a redevelopment plan. [2:21:11, 2:21:31]: So we would suggest that a public hearing be scheduled that night. The only thing you would need to do on November 14th is decide whether or not to schedule the public hearing. You could, if you chose, adopt the tax allocation district on November 29th, right after the public hearing. Most communities don't do that. [2:21:31, 2:21:51]: They typically wait until the next meeting. So we've given you the option of December 12th to actually vote on the resolution creating the TAD. That meeting also needs to be advertised, and because it has to be advertised as well, most communities will do a second public hearing that same night. [2:21:51, 2:22:00]: Eventually December twelfth is when you would have this agenda item to adopt the redevelopment plan and create the tax allocation district. [2:22:01, 2:22:21]: Uh after that occurs, assuming you pass it, uh we go to the County Board of Assessors. Uh they take the list of parcels we give them, they certify the values as being true and correct as of December thirty first. That information is submitted to the Georgia Department of Revenue in January, February of next year. You will get [2:22:21, 2:22:41]: The certification letter from the Commissioner of Revenue Commissioner of Revenue that the district's been approved. And that from that point forward, every year the county tax assessor has to do a separate digest for that tab. And that determines how much incremental digest growth has been created and how much revenue goes to the [2:22:41, 2:23:01]: The TAD fund. First quarter 23 is when you would go to the county and school district to request consent. That process can take anywhere from two weeks, which happened in uh Douglas County twice. That'd be great if that was that easy. [2:23:01, 2:23:10]: We've also had negotiations that are a year and a half and still ongoing. So you just never know. [2:23:11, 2:23:31]: So that's what would happen next. And I believe that's it. So if you have any questions, I'd be happy to answer them. Uh any input to the maps. I know again this is like feeding you information through a fire hose. Uh again, how to get input into this city council's [2:23:31, 2:23:43]: are always most interested in the boundaries. So what what's the map look like? I don't know whose districts this map falls into. Um there's no you know there's it entirely into [2:23:44, 2:23:56]: We don't have districts right now, but if if some other things happen it'll be two districts. Right. Um it'll be Councilmember Thomas and Councilmember Barber. Yeah. We could make sure. [2:24:01, 2:24:01]: Yep. [2:24:03, 2:24:23]: Yeah, I think the where we are in City Hall is the bound I think East Orland goes up on that right side is uh district all the way to Bottom here. And I think Mr. Thompson and uh uh boundaries cover the portion that's west of City Hall. [2:24:23, 2:24:25]: I'm going towards the Walmart shopping summer. [2:24:27, 2:24:37]: Yeah, you could you could extend these boundaries further, you could shrink them substantially. Um I'm reasonably satisfied with this as a starting point. [2:24:39, 2:24:59]: Again, I don't expect the final map to be identical to this. Um there's probably there's some opportunity to look at property further to the south of North Henry Boulevard. There's a couple areas um which could be added. Going further going closer to the highway, you get into some pretty dense high [2:24:59, 2:25:19]: high valued commercial development, um which would gener you know increase that three and a half percent of your digest to six or seven percent pretty easily. The way we've drawn the redevelopment area, if there's something happening out there three, four years from now, you could create a special a separate tax allocation district. [2:25:19, 2:25:39]: Specifically for that area near the highway. And all you would have to do is amend the plan, add the second TED. You wouldn't have to go through this long process of writing a complete redevelopment plan. City of Dalton's done that. Basically two meetings and it's done. So we want to give you the flexibility. [2:25:39, 2:25:50]: to make this document as easy as possible and anticipate as many opportunities in the future so you can address other parts of the city as well. [2:25:51, 2:25:55]: Any other? Thank you for your presentation. Really appreciate it. Mr. Blount, please. [2:25:56, 2:25:59]: Thank you, Mayor. Uh you know, one of the things about [2:26:00, 2:26:13]: Uh a few years ago when when uh the the um acronym of TAT was introduced to me and we looked at a lot of areas and we went to areas where TAS was actually functioning and working. [2:26:13, 2:26:14]: Um [2:26:14, 2:26:17]: There's a lot have to be put into [2:26:17, 2:26:20]: Да за лота граммворк хатип. [2:26:21, 2:26:25]: In order to this to be the next incentive for any development, redevelopment. [2:26:26, 2:26:31]: And I think they d they only use blighted now. I don't think they use the word slum anymore. I just wanna throw that out there. [2:26:31, 2:26:40]: But you have to look at the also the areas that the C D BG grants butts up to the areas where you talk. It is so much groundwork that needs to be laid out. [2:26:41, 2:26:43]: In order for a tad to work. [2:26:44, 2:26:51]: That we've got to do as a city right now. I mean, so much groundwork to still need to be laid out. So much. Incentive packages. [2:26:52, 2:26:59]: You know, what are we gonna give up? What are we gonna do? What we don't have, what we do have. It just and I don't wanna go into specifics. Sure. [2:26:59, 2:27:04]: But but we're in a area right now for me, and this is me, I've got a [2:27:04, 2:27:11]: Is that I'd like to see more f for me, um for me before this came before us. [2:27:12, 2:27:14]: But what what are we gonna do with the tag? [2:27:15, 2:27:19]: What are we gonna what what complements it to make development work with the child? [2:27:19, 2:27:23]: And I know those areas, but I just wanna make sure that we all understand. [2:27:24, 2:27:28]: that the progression of what is needed is not in place yet for me. [2:27:29, 2:27:45]: You certainly you have more work to do, but you've also been at this for twenty years and I wouldn't sell yourself short, you've accomplished you've accomplished a heck of a lot in terms of public improvements. I mean there's a hundred million dollars worth of public investment in this area already. [2:27:45, 2:28:05]: Yeah, and and now the challenge is to leverage those investments you've already made to create housing units, commercial development, mixed-use development. Your zoning ordinance talks about you have two overlay districts that talks about miss mixed use, the LCI plan. [2:28:05, 2:28:25]: Emphasizes mixed use. The study that the Carl Vinson Institute did in 2018 talks about mixed-use development in your core downtown. So you've laid a lot of groundwork. The objectives, you know, the overall objectives and community desires for this area have been set. [2:28:24, 2:28:36]: Now it's a as you say, it's a it's what do we do from here. And establishing the TAD kinda lays the groundwork for that. It's best as long as you get the geography right [2:28:38, 2:28:58]: You don't necessarily have to get all the details right, but it's best to set the digest of the tad when it's low, as opposed to when after things have already started to happen and values have increased. So that's you know reason the only probably the the the most important reason. [2:28:57, 2:29:17]: To think about doing it this year is what you think is going to happen to values. And then the second thing is if you don't do it by December 31st, you have to wait until December 31st of next year. So again, those are the considerations. Our job is to make sure this plan is flexible. [2:29:17, 2:29:28]: anticipates as many contingencies as we can think of, gives you the flexibility to do whatever you want and doesn't put any roadblocks in the way. Um [2:29:28, 2:29:35]: What w what I was hold on. Are you finished with your statement, sir? Yes. Okay. And you you're good? Well [2:29:37, 2:29:41]: Лайн та громворк нен фордис то. [2:29:41, 2:29:49]: It's probably something that I I'm I'd rather this I'm just gonna discuss it with the city manager. I don't wanna kinda put stuff out here that uh [2:29:49, 2:29:50]: that you know [2:29:51, 2:29:53]: There's some things that we need to do. [2:29:54, 2:29:55]: Uh you know [2:29:57, 2:30:00]: I I'd I'd I'd let Mr. Alexander go. All right, Mr. Alexander, go ahead, please. [2:30:00, 2:30:20]: Yeah, thank you for the presentation. And I think the the key thing that you hit on was that it the property values are low now. And when you go to the school board or you go and say, Listen, I need you to freeze the rate, you want them to freeze the rate low because they're giving up less money. So if you go to them and a couple [2:30:20, 2:30:40]: Couple of years when they build their STEM school and all these other developments come, you're asking them to give up a whole lot more money than now. And and what's playing in our favor is they've committed to build a$45 million STEM school here already. So they're gonna be encouraged to want to see uh great. [2:30:40, 2:31:00]: development uh enhance the area where they're making a forty-five million dollar investment. So it's essential that we do it now because once the values go up and we all understand you as you said the political element, when the board is presented with, you know, freezing the tax rate now [2:31:00, 2:31:20]: With giving up much less than they would be once the Cultural Arts Center is built and then once the SIM school is built, that's kind of where we are. So at this point, I'm encouraged by the fact that we can do this uh expeditiously and then put ourselves in a position where we can reinvest this money and put those things [2:31:20, 2:31:23]: in place that we need to put in place uh during that time. [2:31:25, 2:31:45]: Yeah, just to clarify, it's the it's the tax digest that's frozen. Millage rates always change and they will change in the future. That's right. And the amount of taxes collected with this within this trick district are gonna change year to year. It's just that percentage each year that goes goes to the city goes to the TAD fund and generates revenue. [2:31:45, 2:31:54]: And for you to do things and make investments in this area as opposed to kind of general fund expenditures is really what what the objective is. [2:31:55, 2:31:59]: Council, any other council members? No comment? Okay. You good? [2:32:00, 2:32:04]: Okay, go ahead, please. I'd like to um see a better map. [2:32:04, 2:32:10]: So I can see s the specific areas um that we're considering. [2:32:10, 2:32:14]: Um and I understand um the need for this tad. [2:32:14, 2:32:17]: It is the incentive that investors [2:32:17, 2:32:18]: Want. [2:32:18, 2:32:25]: To build here and we all want to revitalize our downtown and attract more investors. So thank you for the work, sir. [2:32:26, 2:32:46]: I believe this map that's shown on the screen w might not have been in your printed package. Um but you haven't well we do have a map but I'm not able to determine the street names. Um yeah, the street names. I can provide we'll I'll provide a map to everybody that's a little bigger but the district has a county as the county lays. [2:32:46, 2:32:48]: But like you said, that could shrink or [2:32:50, 2:32:58]: Uh uh expand a little bit, not too much, but this is pretty much the rough is what it's gonna be. But I'll provide that to you to the to council. Yes. Thank you. Okay. [2:32:59, 2:33:02]: No, you go you got questions? [2:33:03, 2:33:08]: You wanna see another map, sir he said? Yeah, with the street. I think it's gonna be usually [2:33:08, 2:33:12]: You're gonna be able you're not gonna be able to do that right now or or just gonna be the next time round? [2:33:13, 2:33:15]: We'll s we'll certainly get you a better map for the next meeting. [2:33:16, 2:33:36]: Okay. Um I think again the next time I'm in front of you uh will be to present the specifics of the plan. Um and that's when you just you'll probably need to decide whether you want to move forward or not. Uh if you choose not to move forward this year, then we stop. Uh if you [2:33:36, 2:33:55]: you choose to move forward and you want a draft plan prepared, you know, we we have to draft the plan in order to be able to give you the option to act on it in December. So really the next meeting is when you decide, okay, we'll move forward now, or we'll just take it in under advisement and do it next year. I mean that's your that's your option. [2:33:55, 2:34:06]: I just wanna reconfirm, can Mr. Gardner get us the map before Oh yes. Yeah, I'll get those mops to you all probably before the end of the week. We can get a a good size mop to you guys. [2:34:07, 2:34:07]: Ms. Barber. [2:34:08, 2:34:12]: Mayor Ford, I'd like to motion to approve the first progress briefing. [2:34:12, 2:34:17]: Of the city council summarizing the benefits of establishing a tax allocation district? [2:34:18, 2:34:19]: and scheduled through adoption. [2:34:20, 2:34:22]: Is there a second to the motion? Second. [2:34:22, 2:34:24]: Okay. All in favor, please indicate. [2:34:25, 2:34:28]: Okay, unanimous decision. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Thank you. See you on the fourteenth. [2:34:30, 2:34:37]: Council consideration approved the Stockbridge Police Department Citizen Police Advisory Council policy. Chief Tramor, please. [2:34:43, 2:34:51]: Good evening again. I believe uh everyone on council has had an opportunity to review the policy. We briefed on it the last council meeting. [2:34:51, 2:35:10]: Now we're seeking council's uh approval of the policy so that we can move forward with soliciting applications from members to serve on the Citizens Police Advisory Council. Um I will reserve this time for questions now, if there are any from the council uh prior to asking for your consideration to vote on this policy. [2:35:11, 2:35:19]: Go ahead, Mr. Blount. Go ahead, please. I move to council to approve the uh Stockbridge Police Department Citizens Academy uh Council policy. [2:35:19, 2:35:21]: There's second? Oh, yeah, four. Yes, sir. [2:35:25, 2:35:29]: I just wanted to be sure with the correction that you uh [2:35:30, 2:35:32]: I like it. We are making the motion. [2:35:35, 2:35:54]: On the amended policy, that's correct, sir. I wanted to clarify something for you too, Mayor Pro Tem, that it is true that if you appoint the member and that person for whatever reason no longer serves on the board, that the appointing council member will have the ability to reappoint somebody else to serve in their position. [2:35:55, 2:36:04]: Well but but I I wanna just make sure that Mr. Blount's motion is on the modified version. [2:36:05, 2:36:25]: So I don't do you want to speak to that? I know everyone did receive it. Right. And we sent a we sent a follow-up uh earlier today on the modified policy. I know specifically Councilman Blount and I uh spoke about that modified policy and I believe that he was in agreement with that and that he is voting on that uh amended policy. And I and I appreciate your response and you agreed as well. [2:36:25, 2:36:26]: Yes, sir. Okay. [2:36:27, 2:36:35]: Mr. Blount, do you want to restate your motion, please? The motion is standing. He's it's been is All right, is there a second to the motion? I second. [2:36:35, 2:36:38]: Mira Pro Temp Second Man. Okay, any further discussion? Yes. [2:36:39, 2:36:44]: Go ahead, please. Okay. Chief Tramer. Yes, ma'am looking at this revised um copy it [2:36:45, 2:36:48]: mentions uh it the board will consider [2:36:48, 2:36:50]: Consist of twelve members. [2:36:51, 2:36:54]: But as I'm counting these appointed [2:36:55, 2:36:58]: Um or ex selected fruit. [2:36:59, 2:37:01]: I don't count twelve. [2:37:01, 2:37:07]: Right, so the mayor will appoint one, uh each council member will appoint one at six. Mm-hmm. Um [2:37:07, 2:37:20]: There'll be one member from each of the city's four patrol zones, which is four members, one member from the business community and one member from the faith based community. Okay. That's what I was missing. Thank you. Any further discussion? [2:37:21, 2:37:28]: Mayor Ford, I just need clarification on the open meeting section. It's not changed on the revised revised topic. [2:37:28, 2:37:35]: Uh it it is. It says that uh the police advisory council shall be open to the public on the revised policy. [2:37:41, 2:37:48]: In in in retrospect and thinking through, I don't think you were copied on the uh amended policy. I'll make sure that you get a copy of that, Madam Clerk. [2:37:48, 2:37:49]: Right. [2:37:50, 2:37:51]: Any other questions for discussion? [2:37:52, 2:37:54]: Motion's been made, then seconded. All in favor, please indicate. [2:37:55, 2:38:04]: Well, Mayor Ford, I'm sorry. Can I ask that in the motion for this that it references this revised [2:38:05, 2:38:05]: Copy. [2:38:06, 2:38:08]: Or the amended policy? [2:38:08, 2:38:14]: As I suppose, it's up to Mr. Blount. He made the motion. [2:38:15, 2:38:18]: W whatever corrections, this is the policy. [2:38:19, 2:38:27]: It's not about amended or this and that. We're getting specific. That's the policy. What we got and what we received and what's being presented is the policy. [2:38:27, 2:38:30]: Okay. Motions are made and seconded. Any further discussion? [2:38:31, 2:38:33]: Mayor Ford. Yes, ma'am. [2:38:33, 2:38:40]: I am willing to vote if the motion includes this revised policy. If not, I will abstain. [2:38:41, 2:38:43]: That's your objective. All in favor of motion, please indicate. [2:38:45, 2:38:46]: Three opposed. [2:38:46, 2:38:47]: Okay. [2:38:48, 2:38:51]: You oppose. So three zero I abstain. Three zero one. It passes. [2:38:52, 2:38:53]: Thank you. [2:38:57, 2:39:04]: All right, uh uh facility use policy, Mare Pro Tem. Thomas, please. Yes. Um [2:39:06, 2:39:15]: Mayor Ford, um I won't I I move for a motion for council consideration. [2:39:15, 2:39:20]: to amend the facilities use policy section two. [2:39:21, 2:39:24]: Ту ремов висун. [2:39:25, 2:39:26]: Community center. [2:39:28, 2:39:30]: Uh Madam Clerk, am I reading too fast? No. [2:39:32, 2:39:33]: Okay, I'm I'm gonna start off if I may. [2:39:34, 2:39:36]: The motion for council consideration [2:39:36, 2:39:39]: to amend the facilities use [2:39:39, 2:39:41]: Полісі секціон Ту. [2:39:42, 2:39:43]: Ту ремов [2:39:44, 2:39:46]: The use of the Ted Strickland Community Center. [2:39:47, 2:39:48]: And to add [2:39:49, 2:39:52]: The use of the Merle Manders Conference Center. [2:39:53, 2:39:58]: with a partnership organization once each year. [2:39:59, 2:40:13]: Expenses incurred shall be the responsibility of the elected officials initiative fund and pondering organization. [2:40:15, 2:40:16]: Okay. [2:40:16, 2:40:17]: Sick. [2:40:17, 2:40:20]: Okay, Mayor Pro Tem second this any further discussion. [2:40:22, 2:40:42]: Come, just I'd have something. The current policy mentions um twice. Once during a um a weekend, Friday or Saturday, or during the course of the week, Monday and Thursday. But you on your say Merrill Manor, so you you're you said one time, so we partner. The the the the the key word here is is partnering. Okay. Now [2:40:42, 2:40:48]: the um existing policy this is just an amendment so whatever [2:40:49, 2:40:51]: Um in the original [2:40:51, 2:41:04]: That's their stance. Okay. But this is an amendment and the word partnering is is only is the difference. Okay, sir. Gotcha. Appreciate it. Okay. Good deal. Any further discussion? All in favor of the motion, amendment, please indicate. [2:41:05, 2:41:06]: Um on fabric. [2:41:06, 2:41:12]: Okay, fantastic passes unanimously. Thank you very much. Fantastic. Okay, let's move on to um [2:41:13, 2:41:15]: Announcements and meeting events. Um [2:41:16, 2:41:21]: Council meetings will be held at the council uh city council chamber, meeting dates, location times are subject to change. [2:41:22, 2:41:25]: So citizens please visit the the website. So he's websited [2:41:26, 2:41:30]: at www dot city of starbridge dot com [2:41:30, 2:41:50]: For any type of meeting information on our Facebook page or contact city hall offices at 770-389-7900 for any updates. The Main Street Advisory Board is the second Friday of each month at 9 a.m. City Hall Levi Meeting Room, 11 November. Downtown Development Authority meeting at 6 p.m. via Bay of Zoom, third Tuesday of each month. [2:41:50, 2:42:10]: Month by way of Zoom 15 uh November. 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Rawls at the city of Startbridge dash G A dot G O V. And of course thank you for your service. Please join Councilwoman Barber for a free Zuma on every Saturday morning at Clark Park at 8 a.m. Come out for fitness in the park. You see Stockbridge will host [2:43:02, 2:43:10]: So in-person annexation meeting and town hall meeting that is Tuesday, November first, six okay, six thirty. [2:43:11, 2:43:31]: P.M. which has a virtual town hall on November first. Six thirty uh six thirty PM Please visit the website or Facebook page uh to log in information. And Saturday, November fifth, is in person at six thirty PM in Bridge City Church, thirty-nine ten North Henry Boulevard. Come out and learn the facts about annexation, referendum. [2:43:31, 2:43:51]: uh neighborhoods or in the proposed area benefits of the Stockbridge annexation and proposed council districts. Please join Councilman Alexander for a Town Hall, Stockbridge Amphitheater Thursday, October 27, 7 p.m. to discuss economic development, business opportunities, and public safety, free event. Join Councilwoman Gantt for her [2:43:51, 2:44:11]: annual fall festival taking place Saturday October 29th from noon to 4 p.m. at Clark Park. And join me and and the Southern Crescent V Women in Business for a partnership event, funding aspect, funding pitch for new entrepreneurs, dealing with women entrepreneurs there. And that's actually Wednesday, tomorrow night. [2:44:11, 2:44:13]: [9854.2, 9859.2]: Upcoming concerts. Uh Key Sweat of course this Saturday, October twenty ninth. I believe it is sold out. [2:44:20, 2:44:20]: Yeah. [2:44:21, 2:44:29]: Rick Springfield and Tommy T Tutone. Not so though. It's not so? Okay. It will be by Friday. We hope by Saturday. [2:44:29, 2:44:32]: Rick Springfield and Tommy Tutone is Sunday, October 30th. [2:44:33, 2:44:43]: And a matter of fact I believe October Rick Springfield's a six o'clock. Key Swiss starts on Saturday at eight o'clock. Once again, congratulations to Henry County Chamber for being named the Chamber of the Year. [2:44:44, 2:44:45]: And for additional [2:44:46, 2:44:48]: My additional comments, of course, we're still in [2:44:48, 2:44:54]: Believe it or not, we're still in a pandemic and and so we st uh the virus is still out here. [2:44:54, 2:44:58]: And as usual, the Henry County Health Department located in in um [2:44:59, 2:45:19]: on Henry County Parkway, uh well you can get your uh shots, any type of vaccination shots and uh and booster shots um for Miderma and um and geez, I forgot the other one. Minderma and uh what is it? Pfizer Pfizer, there you go. Thank you very much. Nine air [2:45:19, 2:45:39]: to uh 130, excuse me, 9 a.m. to 1130 a.m. p.m. 9 a.m. to eleven thirty a.m. or 1 p.m. to 2 30 p.m. and call 470-664-0005. And of course, uh any testing could be done at Red Hawk Field, once again on Henry Carter Henry County Parkway. [2:45:39, 2:45:59]: And Monday, Wednesday, and Friday from 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. And the CDC recommends, of course, getting your second booster if you haven't had it. And I believe there's some for some individuals you could possibly get even a third booster at this time. What's also important since we're in the fall season is a flu shot. So if you get need to get a flu shot, ladies and gentlemen. [2:45:59, 2:46:04]: gentlemen and uh ca the the flu will be out is out here as well. [2:46:04, 2:46:05]: Um [2:46:06, 2:46:14]: Early voting has started and voting is your constitutional right and I would hope that uh that you all would take uh [2:46:15, 2:46:33]: take time to uh utilize your constitutional right and vote for of course the election is November eighth. Um but uh for uh here in the city of Stockbridge you can early vote at Merrill Manor's conference center which is 111 Davis Road October twenty fourth through the twenty eighth seven AM to seven PM [2:46:34, 2:46:39]: October twenty ninth, uh nine A. M. to five PM. [2:46:39, 2:46:49]: October thirtieth, one PM to five PM, October thirty first to four November fourth, it is seven AM to seven PM. Those same hours apply [2:46:50, 2:47:10]: to JP Mosley Park. Well back up a second. JP Mosley Park is 1041 Miller's Mill Road in Stockbridge, right? And that uh that is open actually you can early vote there October 31st to November 4th, 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. And you can also uh vote early at Fairview Recreational Center 33. [2:47:10, 2:47:30]: Austin Road in Stockbridge, Georgia, right? October 31st to 4 November, 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. The previous hours I mentioned that it coincide with Merrill Manors. You can also utilize those same hours at the Hampton Library, 61 McDonough Street in Hampton, and Local Scrooge Library, 111 Martin Luther. [2:47:29, 2:47:49]: King Jr. Boulevard and Locus Grove as well. And of course at the election voter registration main office in 40 Atlanta Street, McDonough. You're gonna really vote there as well if you need to do that. It's very very important to do that. Matter of fact, obviously, as you probably will know, and listen to the news that um we have set records thus far in early voting so far. [2:47:49, 2:48:09]: Folks are serious about this, which they need to be at all times. So it's great that it's happening. Uh Halloween or fall festivals are right around the corner. So be safe out there with your kids and grandkids and uh participate uh the best you can. If you got any problems, call stop readers finance to help you out if you have any problems in your neighborhood in that aspect and uh [2:48:09, 2:48:25]: uh they'll come and they'll be s they'll I'll be serving them they'll those police obviously be out that night anyway. They're always out. Anyway. So on that note, that is all that I have. Um oh it's one other thing. November ninth, just information. November ninth, the day after the election, believe it or not. [2:48:25, 2:48:43]: I'll be hosting the I-75 Central Corridor Coalition meeting here in Stockbridge from ten A.M. to eleven thirty. Uh so uh the they're finally gonna make the rounds here. So that'll be a good meeting and a half or an hour and a half and all those individuals as well. On that note, Council, I need a uh motion to go to executive session. [2:48:44, 2:48:49]: Uh so move for Mr. Blount. Is there a second? A second. [2:48:49, 2:48:55]: Uh oh yeah, thank you very much, sir. You're right. Legal litigation. [2:48:55, 2:49:02]: Legal real estate and uh personnel actions. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem. Ms. Barber, you second that. All in favor, please indicate. [2:49:04, 2:49:10]: Okay, okay. Okay, everybody, things again. Great. And ladies and gentlemen, we'll be back after this exercise after executive session. Thank you. [2:49:17, 2:49:18]: [10160.0, 10161.4]: Next. [2:49:25, 2:49:25]: Yeah. [2:50:01, 2:50:02]: [10203.4, 10204.8]: Is she back there or what? No. [2:50:07, 2:50:08]: Does she know that we're back out here? [2:50:09, 2:50:10]: Oh just that's okay. [2:50:12, 2:50:25]: Okay, good deal. All right. On that on that note, uh Council I need a motion to end a exact session, please. So move. Sir a second? A second. I got Mayor Pro Tem. I got Mayor Councilman Nazan and Mayor Pro Tem. All favor, please indicate. [2:50:26, 2:50:30]: Okay, now I need a motion to reconvene our work session, please. So move. Okay. [2:50:31, 2:50:32]: Yeah. [2:50:32, 2:50:37]: Is that you, Maryport Tem? Okay. Councilman Alzheimer's Mary Port Tem on Fair, please indicate. [2:50:37, 2:50:49]: Now I need a motion to end our uh uh special call our call meeting, our work session. So Mr Brunt, I mean Mayor Po Temper. Uh Mr Alexander, all in favor, please indicate. Thank you very much. God bless you all. Let's go. [2:50:50, 2:50:50]: All right.

--- title: Downtown Development Authority date: 2022-10-18 source: 2022-10-18_Downtown_Development_Authority.wav --- [0:00:04, 0:00:24]: Uh hello everyone. This is Roger Custon and this is the October 18th Downtown Development Authority of the City of Stockbridge monthly regular meeting. And we are opening the meeting and waiting for one or two of our board members to join. So we'll start with some uh general updates. [0:00:24, 0:00:33]: Um the um we did get a formal withdrawal from our general counsel, uh Dan McRae, that he will be [0:00:34, 0:00:35]: Um [0:00:35, 0:00:43]: That he will be uh, you know, that he's resigning as or withdrawing as our general counsel, and he's advised us to get another general uh counsel. [0:00:44, 0:00:45]: Um [0:00:46, 0:01:01]: The I did send some information on a mural uh workshop. So this is uh uh an an interesting like uh sort of uh uh intensive art uh program put on by the city of Thomasville where they are um inviting [0:01:02, 0:01:22]: 10 different uh cities, I believe from uh Georgia, to participate in this intensive workshop to uh learn how to use art as a place-making um method for uh cities. And uh cities would have to apply to join. They do uh many. [0:01:22, 0:01:42]: Minimum stipe into$500 to help cover some of the expenses, although that wouldn't cover all the expenses. I think it's um might be a good opportunity for the city of Stockbridge. I think it might line up well with some of the things that we're looking at in terms of the Cultural Arts Center as well as the MLK Senior Memorial. [0:01:42, 0:01:42]: Real. [0:01:43, 0:02:00]: The reason I bring it up in uh uh to this uh group is that it may have uh uh uh you know potential cost impact if the city wants to uh participate either via Main Street or the DDA or through the city directly, then um [0:02:01, 0:02:21]: You know,$500 is not going to cover the cost of three people to travel to Thomasville for three days. So there would probably be uh we need to supplement that with additional funding. And you know, it might be a point of consideration for the DDA or whichever entity is going to sponsor this uh at a [0:02:21, 0:02:29]: At future time, but I wanted to make sure you are aware of it, that that's a potential opportunity for the city of Stockbridge. [0:02:29, 0:02:32]: Any uh points or questions on that so far? [0:02:32, 0:02:37]: Let me let me reply to uh uh Barber one. [0:02:59, 0:03:08]: All right. Um, let's see. Uh Barber will bring up the uh financial worksheet. Um actually that what would involve a decision. [0:03:10, 0:03:20]: Um go ahead and no, I'll wait for Barber for that. So um let me uh turn it over to Secretary's update. Uh Bob, do you have anything you want to share with the group? [0:03:21, 0:03:22]: Uh not at this time, no. [0:03:23, 0:03:24]: All right. Um [0:03:25, 0:03:45]: Kira and as far as the Main Street advisory updates, Kira did say she had a conflict. Tonight is also the third meeting for the Parks City of the Stockbridge Parks Master Plan Group, which I participated in as well. [0:03:45, 0:04:05]: Had their third meeting uh this evening, which is why she was unabanded for uh any updates. And let's see what here. Facade grant update. We're pretty much uh closed with that. The only thing that we're uh pending on right now is the logo development. Um, we did get the finalized logo from Ryman Reason. [0:04:04, 0:04:21]: We just need to pay our final invoice and then we'll get the complete package and then we can start utilizing that in our marketing material. So that's about ready to go. I had one question on the invoice, and once we clarify that question, we'll go ahead and pay that and take care of that. [0:04:21, 0:04:41]: So uh following what would be our agenda, then that would bring us to uh Okay, I have a question. Of course. Okay, actually I had uh Miss McGriggs reach uh out to me, Latonya McGriggs. Actually I had G ask her to contact you. Uh she bought the barbershop on [0:04:41, 0:05:01]: On highway 138, uh across the street. Mm-hmm. Uh right there, you know, there's the title pond place or right there. It's right next to it. So she just bought that. And uh she had inquired about the facade grant. I don't know, and I had asked her to reach out. [0:05:01, 0:05:20]: out to you. I'm not sure if she did or not. She did not. But if you give me her information um between Bob and I, we'll be glad to make sure we contact with her and give her the information. There's information on our website. We didn't update that about six months ago. So it has the current information, but I'll be glad to talk to her. [0:05:21, 0:05:41]: Sure. I just thought it would be good for you to have a chat with her and just kind of talk to her about as a downtown business owner. She just bought the business there. So um you'll see uh you notice that the barbershop is not there anymore. So she plans on having some plans for it. She says she's still trying to decide exactly what she's gonna do with it. So [0:05:41, 0:05:43]: there's a lot a lot of activity. [0:05:44, 0:06:04]: Uh in downtown. Well, I I got the name Barber. What's the last name, Councillor? My name is uh Latanya. Oh, excuse me. A mcgriggs. McGriggs. M C G R I G G S. All right. Well, if you have contact information from Ms. McGriggs. [0:06:04, 0:06:07]: Greg's, I'll be glad to reach out to. Yeah, I'll text it over to you. [0:06:07, 0:06:08]: Very good. [0:06:11, 0:06:22]: All right. And uh let's see if there's anything else as far as updates. Um councilman, I think then uh that would bring us to uh your updates on the agenda if you'd like to share. [0:06:24, 0:06:27]: Well, uh just here one update. [0:06:28, 0:06:32]: That we had another purchase in downtown, which is the standalone building. [0:06:32, 0:06:34]: Yeah, like I say, there is the um [0:06:35, 0:06:55]: The loan of the title fund business there. And then right next to it, the barbershop, uh, Miss McGriggs purchased that property. Uh, she's the owner of it. She's uh said that she was uh going to decide and we should she should know exactly what she's gonna do uh with the building. Um possible uh there's a myriad of possibility. [0:06:55, 0:07:02]: possible usage, all the th all the things that we desire in downtown are on that list. So [0:07:02, 0:07:05]: We'll have to see where where where that goes to. [0:07:05, 0:07:15]: But uh, you know, the city is moving forward. A lot of things are happening. A big thing is happening right now is uh the annexation vote is going on. [0:07:15, 0:07:17]: Uh to close the holes in the city. [0:07:18, 0:07:19]: And uh [0:07:19, 0:07:28]: should the annexation pass, then uh the city will be more whole, especially those areas just south of City Hall near Banks Road. [0:07:28, 0:07:31]: and flip and roll that are no longer in [0:07:31, 0:07:44]: uh the city limits. Uh the one the one business that you will notice a lot of commercial as well. Like right now the holiday in uh on one highway 138 is not in the city limits. [0:07:45, 0:07:47]: Because it's on this seventy five, right. [0:07:47, 0:07:59]: Right. So if this annexation passes, the holiday end would come into the city limits and all that little pocket right there where the Waffle House is, the auto dealership. [0:07:59, 0:08:00]: Uh all of that. [0:08:01, 0:08:02]: Uh Cause [0:08:02, 0:08:05]: And then that apartment complex, which is behind [0:08:05, 0:08:08]: Uh the Kroger on highway one thirty eight. [0:08:09, 0:08:10]: That would come into the city. [0:08:11, 0:08:14]: Uh in everything out to the Clayton County line. [0:08:14, 0:08:16]: Spear Road, all of that. [0:08:16, 0:08:18]: Well, we're coming to the city. [0:08:18, 0:08:19]: That's very exciting. [0:08:20, 0:08:23]: Uh it was uh we had another exciting concert. [0:08:23, 0:08:26]: Downtown the Charlie Wilson concert was sold out. [0:08:26, 0:08:29]: It was standing room only. It was an amazing [0:08:30, 0:08:32]: uh performance there. We had a lot of [0:08:32, 0:08:35]: Influential individuals who were there. [0:08:35, 0:08:48]: Uh that we made contact with uh the GDOT representative Dana Lemon was there. Uh so always good to have Dana in the house to as you know GDOT controls the funding for what we do and uh [0:08:49, 0:08:51]: Certainly that was a good opportunity. [0:08:51, 0:08:54]: Uh Bernice King actually came down. [0:08:54, 0:08:56]: It was great that Bernice King [0:08:56, 0:08:58]: was here. She got to enjoy it. [0:08:58, 0:09:01]: Uh Isaac Ferris came down, so we had [0:09:01, 0:09:20]: uh significant we had uh members of the king family uh that were there they enjoyed the concert thoroughly uh the entertainment that we had and we treated them uh rolled out the red carpet for them they really really really enjoyed the visit we certainly had conversation with them [0:09:20, 0:09:21]: About [0:09:21, 0:09:40]: uh being involved or getting involved with the Cultural Arts Center and the legacy of Daddy King uh in the city. Mayor Pro Tem Thomas invited them. They were his uh part of the uh we worked jointly uh with him and the DDA to actually uh host them. [0:09:40, 0:09:41]: Uh, they were at our table. [0:09:42, 0:09:43]: And we were able to uh [0:09:43, 0:09:45]: Have great conversation with them. [0:09:45, 0:09:49]: What imagine how amazing that would be if the King family actually [0:09:50, 0:09:54]: decided to join us in in the everything that we're trying to do. [0:09:54, 0:09:56]: Uh, to honor Daddy King. [0:09:56, 0:10:00]: Uh it would be absolutely amazing if we were able to do that. [0:10:00, 0:10:02]: uh in a significant way. [0:10:02, 0:10:03]: Um [0:10:04, 0:10:05]: You know, we've had some [0:10:06, 0:10:08]: You know, things take place at uh [0:10:08, 0:10:11]: At various city council meetings where we've [0:10:11, 0:10:16]: move forward with some initiatives that needed to be done, that needed to be tightened up. [0:10:16, 0:10:17]: Um [0:10:17, 0:10:20]: With new development uh coming into the city. [0:10:20, 0:10:35]: We talked about uh we talked about the highway one thirty-eight developments at Spivey Road, uh on both sides of that development. So that should be uh coming into the city should be very um interesting in terms of [0:10:35, 0:10:37]: Uh the flower shop downtown. [0:10:38, 0:10:58]: Uh we should be seeing some significant. I understand a contract has been signed actually on the uh flower shop at 118 Martin Luther King Senior Heritage. And we should be seeing something, uh a restaurant come uh to that location in uh the provider. [0:10:57, 0:11:16]: provider for that rest the the I've understand that it'll be a very nice restaurant. The fire station development is moving forward at this point. The city has all of our stuff out of the fire station and the architect has begun begun uh creating renderings [0:11:16, 0:11:17]: For the developer. [0:11:18, 0:11:38]: And I understand that uh the desire for that location is a restaurant uh as well, which uh the initial plans call for. Uh it'll be it'll be two levels with the main level uh you know space and then an actual rooftop type restaurant. [0:11:38, 0:11:50]: restaurant uh on the second level. The initial rendering that we had seen several years ago with three or four stories, that's not the desired uh outcome, not not the desired uh [0:11:50, 0:12:00]: uh intent at this point. Subject, those things are these things are tentative that could change, but the initial approach is two stories with a rooftop. [0:12:00, 0:12:02]: uh on in a restaurant [0:12:02, 0:12:04]: uh at that particular location. [0:12:05, 0:12:05]: So [0:12:06, 0:12:07]: Uh that's where we are. [0:12:07, 0:12:08]: Uh at this point. [0:12:09, 0:12:20]: If there's any questions or anybody want to update on any additional items, uh the police department facility, uh the renovations have gone extremely well. Uh they're waiting on [0:12:21, 0:12:41]: At this point, for the front windows to be brought in, and then there will be a clear glass door replacing it. Or you know, if you've ever been to the precinct before, there was a solid uh type door there where there was no interior to where you could not view inside. They want it to be open, transparent. [0:12:40, 0:13:00]: So even on the outside, you can see what's going on in the building. There'll be a double door entry, and all of that will be redone. It's going to be beautiful. The total investment on the city's part will be$3.9 million reinvestment in debt. And I don't know if you might have seen we're getting [0:13:00, 0:13:10]: Well the city did um move forward with uh approval of additional work to be done on the master trail plan. [0:13:11, 0:13:21]: and on improvements to North and South Lee Street that will be inclusive of connected trails exiting the amphitheater on both sides of the road. [0:13:22, 0:13:42]: Toward Lee, toward North Lee Street. Uh that would be inclusive of uh a multi-use pass extending all the way down to Bryant Street from North Henry Boulevard, uh, with lighting to be included in both of those packages. Uh that would be inclusive of [0:13:42, 0:14:02]: Of a multi-youth path on South Lee Street, leading down South Lee Street next to what used to be Municipal Park. And then you looked at it, if you saw it, they had the Bobcat out there actually doing a little work now, trying to get things rekindled. [0:14:01, 0:14:08]: uh on that side to move things forward. Apparently we have all the easements in place. We were [0:14:08, 0:14:11]: Still waiting on Georgia Power for to do. [0:14:11, 0:14:31]: uh some utility and lighting rule relocation. One of the things that I found that was very peculiar that I asked for a second look at and we've decided to do it. If you're exiting the amphitheater toward uh North Lee Street, for some reason they put the light poles in the middle of the [0:14:31, 0:14:32]: Uh well. [0:14:32, 0:14:35]: Which made absolutely no sense. [0:14:35, 0:14:38]: Of you're riding a bike on this ten foot path. [0:14:38, 0:14:41]: And the s and the light post is right in the middle of [0:14:42, 0:15:02]: The sidewalk is be very dangerous. So they're going to uh move those light posts to the rear of the sidewalk so the 10-foot path will be usable. And then on the other side of that of there, where the retention pond was, there was no sidewalk. [0:15:01, 0:15:12]: Will be a sidewalk on both sides. So you will literally be able to walk through there, and all of these sidewalks will be connected from North Lee Street. [0:15:13, 0:15:16]: All the way to South Lee Street down to Bryant Street. [0:15:17, 0:15:18]: With lighting. [0:15:18, 0:15:19]: Also [0:15:20, 0:15:38]: uh what we decided to do was to spend a little a little bit of extra money to make sure it was looked right. If you if you know what it looks like when you go to Cumberland and the galleria area and you drive down Carl Parkway near the Cobb Energy Center where you have the black metal poles. [0:15:38, 0:15:45]: uh in type of uh lighting where type of for the signals for the uh turn signal. [0:15:45, 0:15:49]: And for the light for the uh for the turn signal and for the um [0:15:50, 0:15:51]: For the light. [0:15:51, 0:15:54]: We have ordered those to go. [0:15:54, 0:16:14]: At North Henry Boulevard and the new Lee Street. It will have those on there. The lighting will be replaced. And also the crosswalks will be uh the red stamped pavers. So the crosswalks will be highlighted with stamped pavers connecting uh all four. [0:16:14, 0:16:26]: side so it will be sharp and then you will have lighting you will have lighting on top there as well so that whole area will be lit up from North Lee Street to South Lee Street. [0:16:26, 0:16:32]: East Atlanta Road will be done exactly the same way. Those existing light poles that are silver. [0:16:32, 0:16:44]: will disappear. The black metal poles will be installed and then the stamp paper crosswalks uh will be installed. Ten foot paths will be uh or on both sides. [0:16:44, 0:17:04]: And then there will be an actual reader board installed where the near where the fountain is. So when you drive by and we want to announce a concert or anything going on at City Hall, there will be an actual reader board for you to read, a digital board that we can customize with different. [0:17:04, 0:17:20]: different messages that we want to send out to the community. So it's very exciting that that work, that's phase, what I just described to you was phase two. We expect phase one to be getting underway with Easter to resuming along East Atlanta Road. [0:17:21, 0:17:22]: To finish that project. [0:17:22, 0:17:24]: Uh before um [0:17:24, 0:17:44]: During before the uh spring concert series comes up, because it's a lot of intensive work. New lighting will be added along uh East Atlanta Road. I know we had some folks saying it was dark out there during the concert or during the bridge fest. Yes, because many of the lights have been uh disconnected because of the construction, but there will be [0:17:44, 0:17:48]: be new light, new LED lighting out there along East Atlanta. [0:17:48, 0:17:50]: And North and South Lee Street. [0:17:50, 0:17:54]: That will brighten it up and again with the ten foot sidewalks. [0:17:54, 0:17:57]: Uh to be attached. And the most exciting thing is [0:17:58, 0:18:01]: There will be a turn lane edit. [0:18:01, 0:18:05]: Um on the uh East Atlanta road. [0:18:05, 0:18:07]: Uh, between Love Street [0:18:07, 0:18:27]: And uh North Henry Boulevard, because right now when you approach City Hall on East Atlanta, there's only two lanes. So if you wanted to turn right, you can't do that. You got to wait in line, but a part of this discussion will add a full turn lane and it will extend the road all the way down to where the road railroad tracks is. [0:18:27, 0:18:41]: So if you're coming across the railroad tracks from Love Street from downtown, you would take a right and you wouldn't have to get wait on that traffic at all. That dedicated lane would take you the all the way to North Henry Boulevard. [0:18:45, 0:19:05]: Thank you, Councilman. It's a lot of exciting moves. A lot going on. Yes, there is. Yeah. Um going back to the um Charlie Wilson uh concert was uh what was your take on the King family's um uh response to the um the MLK senior [0:19:05, 0:19:11]: uh art project. Did they were they did they seem favorable with that? That that would um well what what's your take on that? [0:19:12, 0:19:19]: Let me just say that Mayor Pro Tem has an outstanding relationship with them and it was a win to have them. [0:19:20, 0:19:27]: uh be in stock bridge and for that discussion to take place, I think we should be seeing something uh develop out of that. Yes. [0:19:28, 0:19:29]: Very good. Thank you for that. [0:19:30, 0:19:31]: Oh great. [0:19:33, 0:19:40]: Uh you get you know, you you you you you see uh famous people and you get to interact with them. [0:19:40, 0:19:44]: They were just they were there, they enjoyed themselves. [0:19:44, 0:19:48]: They were so thankful for that invitation. [0:19:48, 0:19:51]: And they had they just could not say. [0:19:51, 0:20:11]: What a great time they had. They said that over and over again. We will be back. When when can y'all invite us back? So it was an amazing time. You guys gotta join us, man. You you you gotta understand what you are producing, you're selling to be in that environment, just being there, whether you stay for the whole [0:20:11, 0:20:22]: whole concert or not, but just coming in seeing 3,000, 3,200 people in the facility, everybody having a great time and nothing but positivity. [0:20:24, 0:20:24]: Yeah. [0:20:26, 0:20:30]: Thank you, Councilman. Any other questions or comments for councilman? [0:20:33, 0:20:40]: All right, Barber, good evening. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Any any any update on the I'm sorry, any any update on the railroad, the the quiet zone? [0:20:41, 0:20:42]: Yeah. [0:20:42, 0:20:47]: There's no significant update apparently, you know, we're we're stalled in terms of [0:20:47, 0:21:07]: Uh they changed personnel at uh Norfolk Southern. Uh the city's done all our part. The council voted and it's been approved. So the next step is up to them. And you know, when you're on the railroad timetable, you're on the railroad timetable and and ask the city of McDonough how they have a train stopped on the tracks. [0:21:07, 0:21:10]: Every single day for two hours. [0:21:10, 0:21:12]: And they don't have any bridges. [0:21:13, 0:21:31]: And ask them how it is to deal with the railroad. Literally, you have the city shut down on one side where the train extends across the tracks and no one can move for an hour or two with imagine if that happened to downtown. Imagine what they would do to your business if the train blocked downtown every day for you. [0:21:32, 0:21:33]: Wow. [0:21:34, 0:21:37]: Well, like like you said, it's it's in the railroad's hands. [0:21:38, 0:21:48]: Right. As soon as any anything develops on that, I'll certainly make sure that uh I pass it along. But right now it's it's in their hands and there's nothing we can do until they make a decision. [0:21:49, 0:22:00]: I'm when to proceed. They've even given us the money. They gave us fifty thousand dollars to actually close down that intersection. So they paid us. So it's really up to them what to do next. Yeah. [0:22:04, 0:22:06]: All right. Any other questions for councilman? [0:22:10, 0:22:16]: I wanna make sure Barber tuned in in enough time to see if he had the updates. How you doing, Barber? [0:22:16, 0:22:25]: Um I'm here. I'm hanging in there. Thanks for asking. We did. We've had a no sometimes you need to hear some news. We had one an additional building that was purchased. [0:22:25, 0:22:34]: Downtown on North Henry Boulevard, right there at Tide Street, you have the Georgia Title Pond business. Right next to it, there was a barber shop. [0:22:34, 0:22:53]: That barbershop has been purchased by Latanya McGriggs and she's intentional of bringing us the type of businesses that we want. And uh we shouldn't know within the next few weeks what the desired end is, but her list includes the the two the couple of items that we are looking for downtown significantly. [0:22:53, 0:22:57]: Oh nice. Was that a building owned by the city or did was it a private cell? [0:22:57, 0:23:00]: It was a private sale. Oh nice. Okay. [0:23:01, 0:23:01]: Awesome. [0:23:03, 0:23:19]: All right, so um now that we have a quorum, thank you for joining Barber. Uh we're gonna uh I guess go ahead and take uh roll call, uh Bob, and we'll I guess we'll formally open the meeting so that we can uh vote on the agenda on some other items. [0:23:19, 0:23:22]: Okay. Uh Councilman Alexander. [0:23:24, 0:23:27]: Present. Sorry, I was on the present. [0:23:27, 0:23:30]: Roger Custon. I'm present. Thank you. [0:23:31, 0:23:32]: Maxwell Sears. [0:23:34, 0:23:35]: Barber Richardson. [0:23:35, 0:23:36]: Present. [0:23:37, 0:23:38]: Fran Merritt. [0:23:40, 0:23:42]: Uh Bob Swigert, president. [0:23:44, 0:23:45]: All right. [0:23:46, 0:24:01]: Thank you, Bob. With four members present, that does constitute a quorum and we'll uh I I'm not sure as far as the order whether we mark the meeting as officially opened when we started around 10 after six or to the right now it's 637. Um [0:24:02, 0:24:08]: Um Roger, yes to be a uh official when you have a form. [0:24:08, 0:24:15]: All right, then we will mark it at a quorum at 6 37 p.m. Thank you for that. Um [0:24:16, 0:24:36]: Kira sends her regrets. Uh she has conflict tonight with the uh master plan for the parks and recreation. So first order on the agenda. Uh before we move into approving today, tonight's meeting agenda, I would like to um make a motion to correct an item. It was a copy paste error from the previous. [0:24:36, 0:24:51]: Today's agenda. Item two, guest speakers, was from the previous month. So I want to strike that item. It was to review the Georgia Tech Market Study. So uh other than that, I would um ask that we approve today's agenda. [0:24:51, 0:24:55]: as uh sent via email with uh without item number two. [0:24:56, 0:24:57]: Second. So [0:24:58, 0:24:59]: Thank you. [0:25:00, 0:25:02]: Uh all those in favor, please raise your hand. [0:25:03, 0:25:23]: All right, that's unanimous. Thank you. And we have two meeting minutes to approve. Um, we'll start with the um August 16th uh meeting minutes. We deferred that in our last meeting because it I was late in sending out the meeting minutes and we didn't have enough time to review it. [0:25:23, 0:25:29]: So I'd like to make a motion that we approve the August 16th meeting minutes. [0:25:31, 0:25:32]: Second. [0:25:32, 0:25:34]: Thank you. All those in favor? [0:25:36, 0:25:39]: All right. Barber, are you abstaining abstaining? I am. [0:25:40, 0:25:48]: All right. So we have three in favor, one abstain. I think you were absent at that meeting. All right, very good. [0:25:50, 0:26:02]: Then uh motion to approve the uh September 20th uh meeting minutes, which uh thank you, Vanessa, for uh preparing those. Appreciate the thorough work that you do for the DDA. [0:26:03, 0:26:04]: Second. [0:26:04, 0:26:05]: Thank you, Bob. [0:26:07, 0:26:20]: All right, any discussion? All those in favor, please uh raise your hand to approve the September 20th meeting minutes. Barber, you're also abstaining. Correct. All right, very good. So it's three in favor and one abstain. [0:26:20, 0:26:40]: All right, uh we'll move into the uh the the one thing I will mention about the Georgia Tech Market study is that the final report was prepared. Um Councilman Alexander had some minor feedback to uh highlight the um retail um retail and housing uh impact. They made that edit. [0:26:40, 0:26:47]: And they sent us the final report on Saturday, which I shared with you all. So that is done. [0:26:47, 0:26:50]: Um as far as uh [0:26:50, 0:27:10]: Uh Chairman's comments. The only other thing I want to mention is that we did receive the uh invoice from attorney McCrae, and this was a cumulative invoice for all the work that was done related to the um boundary dispute for the um [0:27:10, 0:27:22]: Purchase and sale of the station, the MLK, the Sylvain land deal, and then the subsequent clarification on the official DDA name. [0:27:23, 0:27:23]: Um [0:27:24, 0:27:44]: My understanding of the purchase and sale agreement, the intergovernmental agreement that was established for that purchase and sale is that the legal cost will be covered by the city. So, uh, but there are some items on that invoice that do pertain specifically to the DDA. So I'm gonna mark up the invoice. [0:27:44, 0:27:56]: to uh filter out the items that do belong to the DDA that we would cover. And councilman, I think we uh you know we will forward the remainder of that invoice over to the city for uh for payment. [0:27:57, 0:27:58]: Okay. [0:27:59, 0:28:02]: Um the [0:28:05, 0:28:13]: That's later on we will approve the uh meeting calendar. So um that leaves us to the treasurer's update. So Barber, um [0:28:14, 0:28:19]: Europe if you want me to present or would you want to present the uh expension? [0:28:19, 0:28:22]: I can present. Do I have uh capability? Yeah, I think so. [0:28:23, 0:28:25]: Let me know if you can see that. [0:28:26, 0:28:34]: It looks yep, we can. Okay, so I know we missed August, but um in the month of August, the only expense that we had was our monthly recurring Zoom. [0:28:34, 0:28:40]: Subscription, which is$40. Um, and then in the month of September, again, the recurring Zoom. [0:28:41, 0:28:45]: subscription as well as we had our uh [0:28:46, 0:28:51]: insurance renewed in the month of September at the cost of a thousand seven hundred and twenty-one dollars. [0:28:52, 0:29:03]: So total expenses for the month of September,$1,671, currently leaving us a net income for the year of$33,854. [0:29:04, 0:29:10]: um gonna go over to the balance sheet to talk about our cash our cash on hand as of September 30th. [0:29:10, 0:29:22]: Uh facade grant,$114,669.65. So far, the only expenses that has come out of that account was the reimbursement for the Fletcher, uh for Fletcher and Sons. [0:29:23, 0:29:35]: And then our operating accounts,$53,190.58 for a grand total of$167,860.23. [0:29:35, 0:29:45]: As far as these were the expenses, the change in cash from August to September was the 1,671. [0:29:45, 0:29:55]: That we discussed on the PL, uh insurance, and then the Zoom monthly subscription. We do have a couple of liabilities that's not reflected here. Excuse me, one is the cost of our logo. [0:29:56, 0:29:57]: Um [0:29:57, 0:30:16]: We will have to get that settled. I think that's like$2,700. And then whatever's going to be the remaining legal fees after Roger separates out uh the city's portion from the DDA portion. So we do have some liabilities coming up. And then I think I don't know if uh Councilman Alexander is gonna have any expenses uh for. [0:30:17, 0:30:24]: Entertainment, I guess, is what we're gonna call that. Um hospitality. Hospitality. I couldn't use the term, hospitality. [0:30:24, 0:30:31]: Yes, we will have some uh costs for that. We had uh supplied food at a couple of concerts. [0:30:31, 0:30:35]: Okay, so then there's some hospitality expenses coming up for that, but I'm pretty sure we have [0:30:36, 0:30:49]: a sufficient budget to cover all of that. The other thing that's not reflected but will be reflected in October, some known expenses is our finally got everything worked out with Renee at GDA. And so that check is in the mail. [0:30:49, 0:30:54]: um to cover all the members of the board and that was for an additional five hundred. [0:30:54, 0:31:00]: Now I guess I don't know how we bring this up to a vote or how this needs to work out, but [0:31:00, 0:31:15]: It's$500 because I initially paid for an individual membership, which was$200. Um, and so she took that$200 and took it off the tab, and the remaining balance was$500. So I guess at some. [0:31:16, 0:31:25]: point uh we can figure out how I can get reimbursed for my membership fee that's uh applied to the board's membership fee. [0:31:25, 0:31:28]: Let me know if you have any questions about that, but um. [0:31:29, 0:31:35]: So the total amount is seven hundred, not five hundred as far as the expense. All right. [0:31:35, 0:31:44]: Yeah. Um I well I think that wasn't clear when we voted on it before because I think we voted to approve the five hundred dollar uh membership. [0:31:45, 0:31:51]: Uh but you know go ahead and express that you know I think it's uh a good value. Is this an annual membership? [0:31:52, 0:31:55]: It is. It is. I don't think I can't remember. [0:31:57, 0:32:03]: Yeah, maybe that is what we I don't know. I don't remember if I knew the total cost at the time for whole board. [0:32:04, 0:32:05]: Um [0:32:05, 0:32:05]: But [0:32:06, 0:32:07]: Whatever y'all decide is fine. [0:32:09, 0:32:17]: Uh well I'm you know if you want to make a motion to go ahead and approve it as a seven hundred dollar expense, um I I certainly support that. [0:32:18, 0:32:19]: May I ask a question? [0:32:19, 0:32:20]: Yes. [0:32:20, 0:32:27]: With it being this late in the year, you're in the fourth quarter, are they gonna charge you that whole seven hundred and then turn around in January you owe that again? [0:32:27, 0:32:28]: No. [0:32:29, 0:32:33]: This is gonna cover us for the rest of this year and next year. Okay. Oh nice. Okay. [0:32:34, 0:32:34]: Some [0:32:34, 0:32:35]: Yay. [0:32:37, 0:32:42]: Good question, because I was concerned about that too, but she was like, no, she's got to go ahead and extend the membership uh for us. [0:32:42, 0:32:49]: So it's it's technically through tw uh December of twenty twenty three. Yes. As far as you understand it. [0:32:49, 0:32:49]: Yes. [0:32:51, 0:33:10]: Well, I guess two things. I think we would include um, you know, if if we feel that this is uh of value, then we, you know, would list that as a line item on our budget and then it wouldn't need to come up for you know a vote each year. Once we vote on the budget, then that expense becomes included. Um, but [0:33:11, 0:33:12]: Like I said, I [0:33:12, 0:33:16]: I'm in favor of supporting this. I've I I you know [0:33:16, 0:33:23]: I've attended many of their events and I know that's a valuable resource for uh our D DA. So I would certainly support the membership. [0:33:26, 0:33:26]: I agree. [0:33:27, 0:33:38]: Do let you wanna go ahead and do this as a as a vote. So we'll we'll oh okay. Is the motion to approve the seven hundred dollars or is the motion to approve the reimbursement? I want to make the right motion. [0:33:39, 0:33:47]: I would say both. So a total expense of seven hundred dollars, which is inclusive of a two hundred dollar reimbursement to you. [0:33:47, 0:33:51]: Okay, so make a motion that we approve the [0:33:51, 0:33:56]: Membership cost of$700, which includes a$200 reimbursement to [0:33:56, 0:33:57]: Barber Richardson. [0:33:58, 0:34:00]: I'll second that. Okay. [0:34:01, 0:34:02]: Second. [0:34:02, 0:34:04]: All right. Any discussion? [0:34:04, 0:34:05]: Questions? [0:34:06, 0:34:07]: I don't know, was it favoring? [0:34:08, 0:34:09]: Pretty small. [0:34:10, 0:34:10]: All right. [0:34:11, 0:34:12]: Thank you, Barber. Appreciate you bringing that up. [0:34:15, 0:34:23]: Uh and I think that concludes any questions about the balance sheet, the cash, the expenses, anticipated expenses, anything else? [0:34:24, 0:34:44]: No, the only comment I have, you've done an excellent job on the presentation, is is that uh during my report, you know, there's been some several significant things that we need to uh the the city just was awarded several significant grants, one for the police department uh$1.2 million, and then another [0:34:44, 0:34:47]: Another grant uh for mental health services for [0:34:47, 0:34:55]: uh one hundred and seventy five thousand dollars that's something we need to get and start having conversations with [0:34:55, 0:35:01]: uh the grant writer or for the city uh to see whether or not it w um [0:35:01, 0:35:05]: The things that we do as an entity might qualify for. [0:35:06, 0:35:09]: grants. I know there's a lot of money and green energy. [0:35:09, 0:35:13]: that type of thing. Um, you know, we're getting charges installed at the amphitheater. [0:35:14, 0:35:24]: uh for ev vehicles that may be something we might be able to incorporate in our area throughout the entire downtown area or there's a lot of [0:35:24, 0:35:30]: In the infrastructure bill that was just passed, there's billions of dollars available for [0:35:30, 0:35:34]: uh infrastructure programs, uh projects, uh EV. [0:35:34, 0:35:37]: Um charging stations, solar. [0:35:37, 0:35:40]: Even vehicles and stuff like that. So [0:35:40, 0:35:43]: We just need to make sure that we're tapping into. [0:35:43, 0:35:46]: additional resources while money is on the table for [0:35:47, 0:35:51]: uh for downtown too for our our uses yeah [0:35:51, 0:35:54]: Is the city grant writer available? [0:35:54, 0:35:55]: Four. [0:35:55, 0:36:15]: Well, that's something that we would need to talk to uh the city manager about to see uh you know what assistance we you know right now Ciara is serving as the staff liaison. So certainly staff members on a regular basis uh apply for grants. So certainly we would need to work through that channel and then talk to the city manager. [0:36:15, 0:36:30]: manager to see whether or not things that we have, whether what we need to do is to look to see what expenditures that we might have or things that we want to do in terms of projects that might qualify, because we just paid for that market study. [0:36:31, 0:36:51]: And I know, you know, the there's plenty of a grants also always available for doing studies and research and that kind of thing. So we need to make sure that we're being leaning forward to look for those types of funds that are available when they are. [0:36:51, 0:36:55]: we would have qualified for uh a for a grant. [0:36:55, 0:36:56]: Yeah, uh huh. [0:36:57, 0:36:57]: Okay. [0:37:00, 0:37:15]: Well, if it's if it's economic, the first thing that comes to mind is that we the you know, you might recall the market study was input for the master plan that we're engaging with TSW. And we we've we had already we'd long ago um [0:37:17, 0:37:23]: Um, you know, approve the proposal for the uh master plan from TSW. [0:37:23, 0:37:32]: Um, but it it's been so long, factors have changed, even the scope has changed to some degree. I think the DDA math has since changed. Um [0:37:32, 0:37:42]: that um they may very well come back and you know revise their proposal to finish out that plan. So [0:37:43, 0:37:51]: That just comes to mind as something that might um might fit uh depending on um the qualifications for the grant. [0:37:51, 0:37:59]: Absolutely. Any and all, you know I know the other grant is that the city got and I think Miss Holliday you can add in uh is that [0:38:00, 0:38:04]: We got a trails plan grant for downtown, right? [0:38:08, 0:38:09]: Can't I can't. [0:38:11, 0:38:13]: That's is that the one that Main Street applied for? [0:38:13, 0:38:17]: Right, it was a hundred it was a hundred and twenty five thousand dollars. [0:38:17, 0:38:22]: uh grant for uh and that's the gent the gentleman had actually came to our last meeting [0:38:23, 0:38:35]: And then uh made a presentation on uh uh actually implementing it. And he told us uh pretty much uh he kind of laid out a timeline. I cannot think of his name. Um [0:38:36, 0:38:37]: I I can't either write off. [0:38:38, 0:38:38]: Yeah. [0:38:39, 0:38:45]: But just just know that uh though that there was a grant as that actually was acquired. [0:38:45, 0:38:46]: uh for connectivity. [0:38:46, 0:38:50]: uh in the downtown. So what they're gonna be doing is studying [0:38:50, 0:38:55]: how to connect our area uh moving forward with the master trail plan. [0:38:58, 0:39:03]: Extremely important. But yes, that was presented at the last council meeting. Yes. [0:39:08, 0:39:11]: All right. Uh Barber, anything else for the group? [0:39:11, 0:39:13]: Oh, I think that's it. Let me start sharing. [0:39:13, 0:39:16]: Any questions for Barber before we move on? [0:39:18, 0:39:38]: Okay, we'd we'd uh covered uh most of the other items on the agenda. So let me move to the I guess the next item we hadn't covered yet is uh new business. So let me uh and the the main item there is just simply or the only item there is to uh approve the 2023 calendar. Uh I shared this via email. [0:39:38, 0:39:41]: with uh everyone prior to the meeting, but we'd go. [0:39:42, 0:39:43]: Yeah. [0:39:43, 0:39:44]: Shit screen. [0:39:46, 0:39:47]: Yep, this is true. [0:39:49, 0:40:05]: All right. Let me know if you can see the screen. It's the 2023 meeting dates. Same pattern as we're following right now, which is the third Tuesday of each month at 6 PM. I did check this against, you know, normal holidays and so forth. [0:40:05, 0:40:17]: Um two things I'll point out that February 14th is Valentine's Day. And you know, just want to point that out. It's not necessarily a holiday, but it can be present a conflict for some individuals. [0:40:17, 0:40:37]: The other thing I'll mention is that uh, you know, never November 21st, because of the way the Tuesday falls, it's uh towards the end of the month, which can uh create a conflict for um, you know, Thanksgiving, those types of things. So um I'd like to um ask for a motion to go ahead and approve the 2023 meeting dates, or if there's [0:40:37, 0:40:40]: any discussion on editing any of these dates. [0:40:42, 0:41:00]: I I move that we approve the the 2023 meeting date. Oh I'm sorry. I was ahead council. I need to make on the 17th. That's actually my birthday. I don't think I'm gonna be in a meeting that day. So on January 17th. [0:41:00, 0:41:13]: uh on that day if you chose to move forward with that. But yeah, on that date I'm probably gonna be doing a little something that evening. It it it's January, correct? Seventeenth, yeah. All right, very good. Um [0:41:14, 0:41:34]: Well, uh we we we can do one of two things. We can edit it now or we can um um or we can approve it as is and then just adjust, you know, so long as I think we give adequate notice of a date change, you know, we we can't we get we just gotta post post public notice the the regular meeting. [0:41:34, 0:41:41]: meeting has changed and now be on such and such date if if we know that that might present a conflict or a risk of not meeting the forum. [0:41:41, 0:42:01]: Well, I'm gonna leave it up to you all because um like like I said, that data will not be available on that particular date. Now, if you wanted to uh go ahead and change it, you could go ahead and change it. But that's um the issue is if you wanted to have the meeting, would you have a quorum? If you could arrange for the quorum, you could go ahead with the meeting, you know. That's right. [0:42:02, 0:42:12]: Um and you know usually we're not running this tight, but uh you know we um that that is certainly a a point of consideration. Um [0:42:12, 0:42:19]: I I suggest we move ahead with the meeting calendar as is. We can always make the adjustment if we think that we're moving into um [0:42:19, 0:42:25]: uh you know risk of not meeting a warm. Um Barber, it looks like you wanted uh you know point one minute. [0:42:25, 0:42:28]: Uh is November twenty first. That's the week of Thanksgiving. [0:42:30, 0:42:32]: November twenty first, let me take a quick look. [0:42:41, 0:42:42]: I don't [0:42:43, 0:42:46]: I don't know when it's last Thursday. Let me find out. When is it? [0:42:48, 0:42:55]: So it's the Tuesday before the Thursday Thanksgiving? Yeah. All right. So yes to answer your question. [0:42:57, 0:43:13]: The the moving the date though can sometimes conflict with either the city council meeting or the city council work session. So I'm a little hesitant to, you know, just pick another date now because without looking, without cross-referencing it with those other calendars. [0:43:13, 0:43:21]: Miss Holliday, do you have the city calendar where you can look and see? I mean, if the city's when is the city meeting? Uh November of twenty twenty three. [0:43:23, 0:43:28]: I prepare that today. So in November, the council will be meeting on November thirteenth. [0:43:29, 0:43:29]: Mm-hmm. [0:43:29, 0:43:32]: On that Monday and the work session will be [0:43:32, 0:43:35]: November twenty eighth, the last Tuesday of the month. [0:43:36, 0:43:53]: Well, certainly we could we could adjust the date and then um make it the fourteenth instead of so I mean, you know, folks gonna be on vacation and doing things for the holidays, you know, I don't that that's I I would be too close to Thanksgiving for me, you know. Instead of the fourteenth. [0:43:54, 0:43:55]: Yeah, I normally [0:43:56, 0:44:06]: I list it as the second Monday of the month and the last Tuesday and then I know except we're noted because there's certain, like you say, specific holidays where we do adjust the date. [0:44:07, 0:44:09]: And we also adjusted during um [0:44:09, 0:44:13]: GMA convention week. Those are the three that typically [0:44:14, 0:44:15]: are adjusted. [0:44:16, 0:44:21]: So on the on the like on the seventeenth, what date is the council meeting that week? [0:44:22, 0:44:24]: Uh you mean in January? [0:44:24, 0:44:37]: Yeah. The ninth. This the council meets on the second Monday, the DDA meets on the third Tuesday. Okay. All right. So since we're editing this, why don't we consider it the tenth the week prior? [0:44:39, 0:44:40]: So [0:44:41, 0:44:54]: How how's that? Now Bob, I know you made a motion for the earlier calendar dates, but we've made two revisions. Oh I can I can withdraw my motion. Yeah. I can withdraw my motion if that's uh [0:44:55, 0:45:00]: All right. So I think that are there any other uh potential conflicts anyone can see? [0:45:01, 0:45:08]: I don't know if it I I don't know if it I don't I don't know if anybody's got a hot date on Valentine's Day. [0:45:11, 0:45:24]: I don't know. I don't know. We want to be meeting well, let's check. You know, it's it's worth bringing it up. So Vanessa, if you wouldn't mind checking the calend the council calendars for February, please. The council is meeting on that Monday before on the third. [0:45:24, 0:45:27]: How is that the second? [0:45:27, 0:45:36]: Yeah. It is. It's the sixth and then the thirteenth is the second Monday. Okay, because this in February the council is meeting on the [0:45:36, 0:45:39]: Yeah, but in February, the third Tuesday is the twenty first. [0:45:40, 0:45:53]: Oh, how did I get to the 14th? That's minus a bit. That's actually the twenty four and the same is the case for March as well. It would be goodness gracious. Thank you all. I was looking at the one here and now I'm doubting my own. [0:45:53, 0:46:03]: January second. Okay, so let me look at this. So April the twenty first, the twenty the eighteenth. [0:46:05, 0:46:13]: May sixteenth, June twentieth, July eighteenth, fifteen. [0:46:14, 0:46:17]: September nineteenth, October. [0:46:18, 0:46:20]: Seventeen. Seventeen. [0:46:20, 0:46:21]: November [0:46:21, 0:46:29]: First, which we changed to the 14th. To the 14th and December 19th. [0:46:29, 0:46:33]: Yeah, everything else looks pretty good. So wait a minute, cause we have a conflict. [0:46:33, 0:46:41]: there on December nineteenth because I had to move the council meeting up to December nineteenth because of the holiday. [0:46:43, 0:46:44]: How about the twelfth then? [0:46:45, 0:46:52]: Okay, so the twelfth is the Tuesday following the city council Monday meeting. Yes. Okay. [0:46:55, 0:47:00]: All right. Well good. That was a good discussion. All right. So we've made [0:47:00, 0:47:06]: Two corrections and three revisions. This is the standing calendar here. [0:47:07, 0:47:09]: Um all right, any other discussion? [0:47:13, 0:47:20]: All right. I'd say we let's move ahead with uh approving it. So Bob, do you feel you wanna go ahead and make a motion to approve this calendar? [0:47:21, 0:47:25]: I I I move that we approve the the calendar as as uh amended. [0:47:26, 0:47:27]: All right, thank you. [0:47:27, 0:47:30]: Thank you, Barber. Any further discussion? [0:47:30, 0:47:31]: All those in favor? [0:47:33, 0:47:42]: All right, that's unanimous. Let me go ahead and save this and uh Vanessa I will send this to you. Okay, I'll get rid of that. [0:47:43, 0:47:44]: Stop the sugar. [0:47:45, 0:48:00]: All right. Let's notice. Uh now we're looking at the uh old business. Um I did mention the Georgia Tech market study, but that does now open up the uh next the planning process for the um [0:48:02, 0:48:15]: um the master plan for the city of Stockbridge with TSW. I have reached out to TSW and asked for a planning meeting for the next steps. And so I'll have a better update by their next meeting. [0:48:16, 0:48:25]: And TSW will be coordinating with the master parks plan too. We discussed that at our last meeting. So they will be engaged with the um [0:48:26, 0:48:31]: with the consultant. So they're working together on the connectivity as well. So everybody's working together. [0:48:32, 0:48:38]: Thank you for mentioning that. I and and this is sort of tying into the strategic planning session we had last June. [0:48:39, 0:48:40]: Um [0:48:40, 0:48:54]: The hot one of the high priorities that came out of that strategic planning session, it was like a first-year priority, was to establish a walking path between Clark Park and the amphitheater through Love Street. [0:48:54, 0:49:06]: And and you know, you've mentioned a couple of things, councilman, as far as you know, grant and uh, you know, I know we already had um you know uh master uh planned for um [0:49:06, 0:49:07]: uh trail plan. [0:49:08, 0:49:12]: Um, but in terms of like seeing it happen. [0:49:12, 0:49:22]: I mean the the trail plane's a you know, citywide trail plan, there's a lot to be done there, but as a priority, if we could focus on that first leg to get [0:49:22, 0:49:28]: Clark Park connected to the amphitheater. Do do you have any thoughts on that or any response to that? [0:49:30, 0:49:48]: Well, certainly downtown's gonna be a priority. Uh what we're gonna do is we're gonna take the results from when T when the Master Parks plan comes back along with TSW to see what uh projects are and then we'll prioriti prioritize them based on that. But downtown is certainly [0:49:49, 0:50:09]: are going to be highlighted. Then we it'll probably be the first projects that will be kicked off. Can I say it will be that particular one? I think that might be the the next closest one because we're taking care of North Atlanta uh East Atlanta Road. We're taking care of Lee Street uh already. So um I'll just say stay tuned. [0:50:09, 0:50:20]: then I'll let you know uh what as things go because we don't want to put get anything and then there's something else planned. So let's see what comes up. But right now say it would probably be a high priority. [0:50:21, 0:50:26]: And um Councilman Alexander, that was driving me crazy to go back and see who that was. [0:50:26, 0:50:30]: It is the council approved the RFP. [0:50:30, 0:50:33]: for the Atlanta Regional Commission grant. [0:50:33, 0:50:36]: To cake and wood to design. [0:50:36, 0:50:38]: and develop a feasibility study. [0:50:38, 0:50:43]: and concept plan for the downtown Stockbridge pedestrian and bike. [0:50:43, 0:50:48]: connectivity. So that's what that was at that meeting. And it was [0:50:48, 0:50:49]: So a grant. [0:50:49, 0:50:52]: It was a hundred and twenty five thousand dollars. [0:50:52, 0:50:56]: And the city has to pay twenty five thousand and the grant was ninety-eight thousand. [0:50:57, 0:51:02]: Right, right. So all of those would be involved the Kick and Wood, T SW [0:51:02, 0:51:07]: Uh and uh the master the the master parks where all of that will be involved and surely. [0:51:08, 0:51:12]: They will be consulting with uh us and they will be consulting with you, Mr. Custin. [0:51:13, 0:51:15]: Very good. Thank you. [0:51:16, 0:51:36]: All right, so that uh as far as old business, the next item is the MLK Senior Memorial Public Art Update. Um, we have made some good progress on the uh proposal for um uh the planning for the MLK Memorial. Uh we are meeting with the uh consultant next week to finalize that proposal. [0:51:36, 0:51:56]: And then once we feel like we've got a ready draft, it'll be both the uh the written sort of report, if you will, which is a brief report, it's about eight, 10 pages. And uh and it'll also be a presentation uh slideshow that we would present to the city council. Once we feel like we have that ready, um uh uh vanilla. [0:51:56, 0:52:04]: Nessa, I'll be reaching out to you to see when we can uh get uh on the council's agenda to present that. All right. [0:52:06, 0:52:07]: Um [0:52:07, 0:52:20]: The DDA logo I mentioned before we did get a finalized design. We just need to uh make the make the uh final payment and then we should get the full package for that. So that's almost ready. [0:52:20, 0:52:21]: And let's see what [0:52:22, 0:52:27]: What's next? We got that. And then I already mentioned the master plan. [0:52:27, 0:52:47]: Um oh then the last item on the um old business is the uh committee to draft the intergovernmental agreement. Um so Vanessa, thank you to you for initiating um with um the city's attorney, uh Mr. Washington, um what the status was. He did [0:52:47, 0:53:05]: respond to our attorney with uh um a couple of uh with a red line uh over the um uh coverage of the legal uh fees. Let me councilman let me explain to you what that what the intent was behind that. So [0:53:05, 0:53:07]: Prior to um [0:53:08, 0:53:24]: us even the DDA even engaging uh Mr. McCrae as our own attorney, it had been sort of a verbal understanding that if we needed, if the DDA needed legal support, that we could leverage the city's attorney if and when needed. [0:53:24, 0:53:26]: Um that's what that [0:53:27, 0:53:32]: um clause was meant to represent. So you know. [0:53:32, 0:53:52]: I the DDA did choose to get their own attorney and I'm glad we made that choice. It helped us out in the last couple of years. But I also like to use the city's money wisely, you know, if there's procedural things that we could just, you know, we just basic questions and things like that. [0:53:52, 0:54:12]: That. If if depending on how the the fun the rate structure is with the city's attorney, it could be a question, you know, if we could leverage the city's attorney for things that might be useful for the DDA and reduce the cost that the DDA is incurring with it with their attorney. Um, that that's what that clause. [0:54:12, 0:54:26]: was meant to address is to have the option of using the city's attorney but not necessarily um i guess require it um so maybe we need to work on the language there but i i just wanted to [0:54:27, 0:54:38]: clarify that with you, councilman, because I know that would be up uh ultimately up for the uh city council's decision on how we word that. Um do you have any questions or response to that or what the intent was there? [0:54:40, 0:54:41]: Yeah, yeah. [0:54:43, 0:54:52]: Uh no, I will just l wait on the interpretation from the attorney. You know, that's what it's gonna really come down to is what they what they what their input is. All right. [0:54:52, 0:54:54]: Very good. And um [0:54:55, 0:54:59]: See if there's anything else. Um I already did that. [0:55:00, 0:55:12]: Those are the main updates. So we'll open up for general discussion. Any updates on the economic development director uh vacancy? [0:55:13, 0:55:17]: I I don't have any update on that. I will try to do that, but I do have another update. [0:55:17, 0:55:21]: At our very last meeting, you know the condition of Burke Street. [0:55:22, 0:55:25]: We have been talking about that. That's been transferred. [0:55:25, 0:55:28]: We transferred funds from the local maintenance uh agreement. [0:55:29, 0:55:31]: And Burke Street will be repaved. [0:55:32, 0:55:37]: Yeah, instead of having that stretch down the middle of it looking like it's looking now. [0:55:37, 0:55:41]: Uh the da it that entire road will be repaved. [0:55:41, 0:55:43]: Which is befitting of what it should be. [0:55:43, 0:55:46]: Actually, I was looking at uh Jim Clark. [0:55:46, 0:55:50]: Jim Clark needs to be repaid too. So at some point we need to [0:55:50, 0:55:53]: Uh, you know, get with the public works and see. [0:55:53, 0:55:58]: what need to be done, but Berk Street really looked bad how it was with that strip. [0:55:58, 0:56:00]: down the middle how they just repay that. [0:56:00, 0:56:05]: So Burke Street will be getting re repaved down st downstrewn downtown. [0:56:07, 0:56:09]: Thank you. I appreciate that. Um [0:56:10, 0:56:15]: Uh Vanessa, have you received any applicants for the D DA vacancy? [0:56:16, 0:56:18]: I have not. I actually um [0:56:19, 0:56:25]: I mean we've been kind of aggressive with advertising this and promoting it when we go out and [0:56:26, 0:56:30]: everything. I don't know if it's the time of the year or what, but uh [0:56:30, 0:56:32]: I've not received anything for the DDA. [0:56:33, 0:56:35]: I have for the planning commission, but not for the D DA. [0:56:36, 0:56:37]: All right. [0:56:37, 0:56:51]: No, that's where we that that's where we need to be helpful. You know, some one of us needs to bring somebody to the table uh as a downtown business owner to be able to uh j you know, the citywide development authority have been kinda [0:56:51, 0:57:11]: What I was have been referring several people to that they didn't qualify for what we were doing, but to go ahead and move forward with that so we could assist of other businesses throughout the city with facade grants and such. Uh so that was kind of I want I was working on that, but certainly I will uh see the d endeavor to see whether we can get another. [0:57:11, 0:57:24]: board member and you should all you all you should all do the same. Exactly. I was I was gonna add to that that you know we we each take it upon ourselves as kind of an act of recruitment to um bring in who we think would be uh [0:57:24, 0:57:28]: uh help you know to support the DDA sort of on the board. [0:57:29, 0:57:45]: You know, you know, the one thing that we need to do with m Miss Holliday, what's the name of the business, the financial business that opened up downtown? I thought someone was going to reach out to them. Um we did a ribbon cutting there. [0:57:47, 0:57:52]: I d I don't I can't tell you right this second, but yes right there on Burke Street. Um [0:57:53, 0:57:55]: We did a ribbon cutting for them. [0:57:55, 0:58:05]: Yeah,'cause they are they are a major company. We need to see whether or not we could get And they moved here specifically. So yeah, they may very well be interested. [0:58:08, 0:58:28]: Let's see. Uh I think uh I will share that. I'll pull it up from my ribbon cutting uh file. Yeah, I think Mr. Peterson was supposed to reach out to them and then of course he's not here any longer. So we would need to make some adjustment. Maybe we could um uh you know, we'll we'll we'll we'll figure it out. But maybe Mr. Custon, you [0:58:28, 0:58:37]: might be able to reach out to them once we get the information going as an official representative uh to uh inquire whether they have any interest in that. [0:58:38, 0:58:40]: I'd be glad to. Thank you. Good idea. [0:58:41, 0:58:48]: um and then um so that's really all i have any other general discussion comments [0:58:51, 0:58:56]: All right. Well I appreciate y'all being here. I appreciate your work on the DDA as always. Um [0:58:57, 0:59:06]: And with that, how about um make a motion to adjourn the meeting? Real quick, uh the things that I wanna say. My town hall is on the twenty-seventh. [0:59:07, 0:59:08]: Um [0:59:08, 0:59:11]: to it inclusive of all public safety. [0:59:12, 0:59:12]: And [0:59:13, 0:59:17]: An economic development update, Miss Richardson. [0:59:17, 0:59:26]: It is a if you want to find out any and everything that is going on in town, this is what we're going to be doing, talking about. [0:59:26, 0:59:32]: uh inclusive of downtown, but the public the uh police chief will be there. [0:59:32, 0:59:33]: The um [0:59:34, 0:59:48]: Uh the sheriff will be there, Mr. Scandrick, Sheriff Scandrick will be there. Uh the E911 representative uh will be there uh as well. All of those individuals and someone from Henry County Police Department. [0:59:48, 0:59:52]: uh should be there and then we will have uh [0:59:52, 0:59:53]: Economic development update. [0:59:54, 1:00:06]: Uh all and it's at the amphitheater in downtown. So we expect a nice crowd to come out to just if they just wanna come and see the amphitheater, you know, it'll be a good opportunity because we're gonna have it at the amphitheater. [1:00:06, 1:00:26]: in uh the center of downtown so we can highlight that and then I actually have us I put us on the flyer okay the DDA so certainly I would uh like for all of the DDA members to attend because I would like for you all to come up be recognized and to talk about [1:00:26, 1:00:27]: about what we do. [1:00:27, 1:00:32]: I would love to. I have an IRS audit that day in Savannah. I won't be. [1:00:32, 1:00:41]: I would I would much rather be at the I'm sure you would. Oh my goodness. So that's October twenty seventh. [1:00:42, 1:00:44]: Mm-hmm. Thursday, October twenty seventh. [1:00:45, 1:00:46]: Seven PM. Okay. [1:00:47, 1:00:48]: I'm I'm sorry. [1:00:48, 1:00:49]: Seven PM. [1:00:49, 1:00:51]: Will you will it be free as well? [1:00:51, 1:00:52]: Thank you. [1:00:53, 1:00:54]: Yes, it will be streamed. [1:00:54, 1:00:56]: Okay, I can probably uh [1:00:57, 1:01:00]: look at it virtually. But yeah, I'd much rather be where you're gonna be. [1:01:01, 1:01:06]: I'm sure, my goodness. Well I'll pray for you. Thank you. [1:01:07, 1:01:10]: All right. Any other closing remarks? [1:01:13, 1:01:16]: All right, that's all we had on the agenda. Um [1:01:16, 1:01:19]: Barb, I think you were about to make a motion to adjourn. [1:01:19, 1:01:32]: Yeah, but um before I do that, I want to apologize. I feel like I wasted you guys time by coming on late. I've been super busy and super exhausted with work. I literally had this meeting at 6 30 on my couch. I don't know how, I don't know why. [1:01:33, 1:01:43]: Please accept my apologies for coming in late. Um, that's not my intention, but with that being said, um yeah, just exhaustion. [1:01:43, 1:01:47]: So I move that we end the meeting at seven fifteen PM. [1:01:49, 1:01:50]: We have a second. [1:01:52, 1:01:53]: Thank you, Bob. [1:01:54, 1:01:56]: All those all those in favor of adjourning, please raise your hand. [1:01:57, 1:02:02]: Thank you all again. I appreciate your work this evening as always. Have a great night. Good night. [1:02:03, 1:02:05]: Thank you. Good night.

--- title: Regular Council Meetings date: 2022-10-10 source: 2022-10-10_Regular_Council_Meetings.wav --- [0:13:38, 0:13:46]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, we have six oh five and we do have a quorum uh of the council. So please uh take your seats. [0:14:07, 0:14:09]: Is that [0:14:17, 0:14:21]: Madam Quirk, you look you ready? Okay. [0:14:28, 0:14:28]: Right. [0:14:31, 0:14:42]: All right, Madam Clerk, appreciate that. All right, ladies and gentlemen, I will call this uh council meeting for October tenth to order at six oh six and the Pledge of Allegiance, please. [0:14:43, 0:14:46]: I'm sorry, excuse me, invocation first. Mr. Crawford, please. [0:14:50, 0:14:51]: Please stand if you can. [0:14:54, 0:15:14]: That's right. Father, thank you for this beautiful day you provided for us. Thank you for the constituents that show up here and thank you for those leaders in this city that uh that run this and I pray that their decisions tonight are within within your glory. Pray that uh all turn safely tonight to our homes. Bless us, uh bless us as we continue to move in your service. [0:15:13, 0:15:30]: Amen. Pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag, the United States of America, and to the Republic who withstands one nation under God, individual liberty and justice for all. [0:15:31, 0:15:33]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:15:38, 0:15:39]: Present. [0:15:39, 0:15:41]: May approach him Thomas. [0:15:48, 0:15:52]: Present. Councilwoman Barber. Present. Councilman Blank. [0:15:54, 0:16:00]: That the record reflects Councilman Blount is not in attendance. Councilwoman Gantt. Present. Bear forward, do you have a quarter? [0:16:00, 0:16:02]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate that. [0:16:02, 0:16:09]: Uh Council, I need the uh adoption actually amendment to the agenda. Uh Mr. Alexander, please. [0:16:09, 0:16:29]: Yes, sir, Mayor, thank you. Uh, I need to amend the agenda to remove item number sixteen, item number seventeen, item number eighteen that will not be heard tonight. The applicant has requested this item be tabled and heard at the November 14th City Council meeting. That is the request. Also, we're gonna add to the agenda. [0:16:29, 0:16:42]: a resolution on the local option sales tax referred to as lost and um my councilman alexander's use of the amphitheater for uh the town hall on the twenty eighth. [0:16:43, 0:16:45]: Is there a second to that amendment? [0:16:45, 0:16:46]: I second. [0:16:46, 0:16:49]: Is there okay? Uh all in favor, please indicate. [0:16:50, 0:16:58]: Thank you. Okay, so you now have a decision on that aspect. Now now I need a motion to adopt an entire agenda, please. So moved. Okay, is there a second? [0:16:58, 0:17:00]: Second. All right. All in favor, please indicate. [0:17:01, 0:17:21]: Thank you very much. Appreciate that. Council, you have before you the adoption of the minutes. You got the council minutes from our meeting in August 8th of 2022. Special call meeting minutes on August 15th. And also the work session minutes on August 30th of 2022. If you have any changes, please let those be known. If not, I need to [0:17:21, 0:17:32]: motion to accept those minutes, please. So moved. So Mr. Alexander, okay. Second. Ms. Ms. Gann, all in favor, please indicate. Thank you. Thank you very much. Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments, please? [0:17:35, 0:17:51]: number of people here this this evening and I believe they were under the under in the impression I'm sorry that the item for Camler Road was going to be on the agenda. It is not therefore this will not be a public hearing for that item but it it is available for [0:17:51, 0:17:52]: Public comment. [0:17:54, 0:18:00]: Okay, so otherwise the public comment is is based on the agenda items that were removed for November fourteenth. [0:18:00, 0:18:08]: No, sir, that's a totally different item. Okay, I'm sorry. This is a separate um item for Canada Road. It is not an item on the agenda. [0:18:09, 0:18:13]: But it's dealing with a public comment in reference to like a public hearing issue. [0:18:14, 0:18:27]: It's not in reference to a public hearing at all, but if anyone who wants to speak on Canler Road, it would become a public comment, sir. All right, well, okay, fine. So be it. So be it. So we have someone who wants to I'll uh have a public comment reference to Canler Road. [0:18:27, 0:18:29]: do uh terror welch. [0:18:34, 0:18:39]: You don't have any comments? No. Okay. Mark Welch? [0:18:43, 0:18:44]: John Burnett. [0:18:49, 0:18:50]: Operate. [0:18:52, 0:18:55]: Khivi. And Arbor Khivi. [0:19:02, 0:19:05]: Okay, it needs your name and uh address, please. [0:19:09, 0:19:13]: Okay. Please speak into the mic. Yes, sir. All right. [0:19:22, 0:19:24]: Yeah, don't seem like this alone. [0:19:27, 0:19:28]: There we go. Thank you. [0:19:30, 0:19:40]: Aubrey Kakivi, AD Candler Road, representing Southern Grace Hospice. We have two primary choices in life. We can either accept conditions as they exist or we can take responsibility to change them. [0:19:41, 0:19:50]: See a lot of people want to exempt themselves from taking responsibility. All they want to do is talk about the problem. Every time you see them, they'll either tell you their story over and over and over again. [0:19:51, 0:19:54]: Since early twenty twenty one, I have pleaded with the city. [0:19:54, 0:20:00]: To stop the Candlero development over and over and over again. I come to you tonight asking. [0:20:01, 0:20:08]: For you to take responsibility as well as me taking responsibility for myself as the only business owner on Canler Road. [0:20:09, 0:20:18]: I also come tonight on behalf of my neighbors and their children, who do not only live on Kendall Road, but frequently walk and have children who ride their bikes on this semi-dirt road. [0:20:20, 0:20:28]: On June 22nd, 2021, a developer stated in an email to the DOT that they plan to develop this 175 Kandler Road. [0:20:29, 0:20:36]: Forty four acre lot into a truck trailer parking facility and have been speaking with Linda Logan with the city of Stockbridge regarding this. [0:20:38, 0:20:51]: The open records request revealed at the time the project was called Candler Road Industrial Park, a 498,160 square foot warehouse with over 124 tra tractor trailer parking spaces. [0:20:52, 0:21:12]: On July 1st, 2021, Henry County DOT informed the developer of the current County Road conditions, stating that it is a narrow surface treated roadway that was insufficient for tractor trailer use. On October 29th, I sent y'all an email based off of Linder's verb verbal approval and Gordon Linton's zoning verification letter dated May. [0:21:12, 0:21:13]: twenty twenty one. [0:21:14, 0:21:30]: On November 4th, Mayor Ford responded of the mat that the matter was being investigated, and currently the current research has indicated that plans have not been submitted to the city for a thorough review. November 6, 2021, Mayor Ford concluded that the Community Development Director has conducted a thorough research of the zoning requirements. [0:21:30, 0:21:38]: And a truck stop, truck terminal, or parking lot is not allowed under the current L M or M one zoning designation for the property. [0:21:39, 0:21:51]: May twenty sixth, two thousand twenty two, I emailed again that traffic was continuing. Um a stop work order was issued by the prop by the city for work for land being disturbed without a permit. [0:21:51, 0:21:53]: Август форт, твари то. [0:21:53, 0:21:59]: A notice of intent for the project entitled Canler Road Industrial was filed with the city of Stockbridge, august eighteenth. [0:21:59, 0:22:06]: 2022, Brian Gardiner from Safe Built reviewed for code compliance the development entitled Inlight Stock Bridge. [0:22:07, 0:22:26]: Same plans, 498,160 square foot warehouse and over 120 fract for tractor trailer parking spaces that Mayor Ford already stated was not permitted and would require rezoning. August 31st, 2022, a common development permit was issued for the project roject Candler Road Industrial Park. [0:22:26, 0:22:33]: October third, twenty twenty two, I submitted an open records request to this city and only received one email. [0:22:33, 0:22:41]: I humbly request to be able to continue. I'll stand by. Uh Council, I would imagine that you wanted to continue this. Go right ahead, please, ma'am. Thank you. [0:22:41, 0:22:51]: The records included the civil plans for the 498,160 square foot industrial building and parking entitled Canler Road Industrial Park, the development that Mayor you already seized. [0:22:52, 0:22:58]: On june tenth, twenty twenty-two, the forty-three point nine acre property closed to Blackstone Decayler Development. [0:22:58, 0:23:02]: As of the day as of today, the city has no record of a traffic study. [0:23:02, 0:23:12]: or any formal road plans that have been approved for the project by the DOT under the names Inlight Stockbridge or Canler Road Industrial Park. In fact, the developer has stated that the DO to the DOT [0:23:13, 0:23:20]: On two separate occasions that the Jodico Jodico intersection has been addressed and that the city of Stockbridge is in agreement with this plan. [0:23:21, 0:23:31]: Per the City of Stockbridge's Unified Development Code on adopted by all of you on March fourteenth, twenty twenty two, there are a plethora of code violations that prohibit this development from progressing forward. [0:23:32, 0:23:34]: nonetheless obtaining a land disturbance permit. [0:23:36, 0:23:41]: The property closed june tenth, twenty twenty two. It was into conservation until june twenty-seventh, twenty twenty two. [0:23:42, 0:23:48]: Therefore, no permits, project plans, or proposed property use letters submitted or obtained prior to its closure date are valid. [0:23:48, 0:23:56]: When the Unified Tax Development Code was adopted, this property was under a 10-year agricultural conservation or tax shelter, strictly put in place to. [0:23:56, 0:24:00]: protect the property from development and to save the owner's tax dollars. [0:24:00, 0:24:02]: The land disturbance permit issued. [0:24:03, 0:24:20]: Submitted on 8422 2022 includes an attestation that the developer contends all requirements under the City of Stockbridge's Universal Development Code have been met or accounted for in the attached plans. However, as I will outline, and I promise to be quick, that is not the case. Number one. [0:24:20, 0:24:40]: Per our Unified Development Code, Chapter 2, page 46, defines the light industrial district intent is to provide for light industrial uses, all of which shall be nuisance-free and not generators of a hazardous waste. It is intended that the light manufacturing uses shall be located on either arterial or major collector streets or within industrial parks. Canler Road is not. [0:24:40, 0:24:41]: Either of these. [0:24:41, 0:25:01]: Which brings me to number two. Per the city of Stockbridge's minimum development standards on page 99, if Canler Road were considered an arterial or collector street, the developer would be required to have a minimum of 80 to 100 feet of ride of way. They do not have this. Problem three: the letter of intent proposed a warehouse and office, no trailer park. [0:25:01, 0:25:15]: Parking was mentioned as this developer was informed truck parking would require rezoning by our mayor in November 2021. However, on the plan submitted with the name Inlight Stockbridge, over 124 tractor trailer parking spaces surrounded this warehouse. [0:25:16, 0:25:18]: We still have no idea what is exactly getting built. [0:25:19, 0:25:22]: Problem four, the current City of Stockbridge Unified Development Code. [0:25:23, 0:25:24]: The максимум [0:25:24, 0:25:44]: Lot coverage that includes parking per the diagram in the development code on page 47 is 50 percent. That means a new development can cover no more than 50 percent of a total lot. The developer plans includes thirty-five point five of the forty-three point nine acres covered, which equates to over eighty percent of the lot coverage. Again, not in compliance with [0:25:44, 0:25:45]: With code. [0:25:47, 0:25:49]: All right, council, wanna continue? [0:25:50, 0:26:10]: I have one more minute. Stand by. Okay. Go ahead, ma'am. Problem five. It's intended use according to the project summary submitted for a permit is moderate hazard storage, which is defined as buildings occupied for storing any flammable or combustible materials that are likely to permit the development and production of fire with a moderate rapidity. Per stockbridge, unified development. [0:26:09, 0:26:22]: Code, the L1 Indu industrial district is to provide for light industrial uses, all of which shall be nuisance-free and not generous, generators of hazardous wastes. Again, not in compliance with Stockbridge Code. Problem six. [0:26:23, 0:26:36]: Our code on page 139 states that sidewalks shall have a minimum width of eight feet in all commercial, industrial, and mixed use development areas. The site plans submitted to the city do not include a sidewalk, do not include any sidewalk plans at all. [0:26:37, 0:26:38]: In the last three weeks, [0:26:39, 0:26:51]: I have met with or contacted a plethora of you. Gordon Linton came to the site and measured Candler Road himself. The width in front of my property is only seventeen and a half feet, not big enough to even fit two cars through. [0:26:51, 0:26:58]: I've contacted Brenda Carter a total of seven times, in which all I received back was a text asking for my name. [0:26:58, 0:27:07]: I went to City Hall to meet with Ryan and Brenda, who insisted he would call me back and was diligently working on understanding the project. No return calls were received. [0:27:07, 0:27:13]: I have outlined six issues tonight which give you the power to immediately stop this development. [0:27:13, 0:27:21]: That has hastily been pushed through planning and zoning, a development that will significantly impact the safety and well-being of your constituents, the will that will redistrict. [0:27:23, 0:27:30]: That will impact the safety of the children who live on Canler Road and prevent them from riding their bikes as they have for many generations. [0:27:30, 0:27:37]: Henry Evans states, a culture of accountability makes a good organization great and a great organization unstoppable. [0:27:37, 0:27:45]: Therefore, I humbly and respectfully request that the planning and zoning department and this developer, who has presented itself under multiple names, [0:27:45, 0:27:52]: be held accountable to follow the city's minimum development standards and unified development code set forth and approved by this council. [0:27:53, 0:28:13]: I plead that Stockbridge take the opportunity to prove to prove that it is indeed a great, unstoppable city, and immediately sees the development of a warehouse with one hundred and twenty-four tractor trailer parking spaces, whether it be called Canler Road Industrial Park, Inlight Stockbridge, or any other development disguising itself and deliberately intending to mislead the city. [0:28:13, 0:28:13]: City. [0:28:14, 0:28:24]: Let's call a spade a spade. They are taking forty four acres of land and building a tractor trailer parking space spot overnight parking, despite being so this would require rezoning. [0:28:25, 0:28:27]: May I answer any questions the council may have? [0:28:27, 0:28:44]: Uh actually uh what what's gonna happen is that the city uh manager is well aware of this along with the council members, city manager has a charge to uh dig down in this particular issue and get it resolved and at the best as possible in that aspect. Thank you for your comments. Thank you. Appreciate it. Okay. [0:28:46, 0:28:49]: Okay, we will move on. Any any other uh public comments? Um [0:28:50, 0:28:57]: Okay, thank you. All right. Uh on this note uh we will now go on a ceremonial uh basis for the meeting here. [0:28:59, 0:29:07]: And I have several proclamations to read. Council, you will be willing to join me if you want down here, if you like. And I'll call it as a point in time. [0:29:08, 0:29:09]: You go through this part. [0:29:29, 0:29:37]: We'll start with the uh Spider Cord Awareness Month. Mr. Ash, sir, you are here? Joshua Ash? [0:29:43, 0:29:51]: Oh is that right? Okay, is that what we do with [0:29:53, 0:30:01]: I know, sir. No, I'll be okay. So you want that to go first before I start a meeting? [0:30:04, 0:30:24]: All right. All right, just a proclamation of City of Stock Ridge recognition of Spinal Cord Awareness Month. Whereas a spinal cord injury refers to any damage to the spinal cord, whether from trauma, disease, or degenerative disorder. And whereas after a spinal cord injury, nerves above the level injury keep working as a [0:30:24, 0:30:44]: Did before, but messages from the brain to the body may become fully or partially blocked below the level of injury. And whereas to raise awareness about this prevalent issue in 2014, the U.S. Senate resolution 533 recognized the month of September as national spinal cord injury awareness. [0:30:44, 0:31:04]: Awareness Month. And whereas people with spinal core injury can continue to live full, productive, and rewarding lives, to do so, it's essential that they have access to the resources they need, including spinal core injury, rehabilitation, medical care, quality jobs, education, mental health treatment. And whereas the city of Stockbridge recognizes [0:31:04, 0:31:24]: It is vital that we continue to have informed, resourceful, and productive conversations about how to improve policies and resources for people with disabilities. These conversations help spark ideas and increase support around the research and discovery of effective treatments and therapies to help those with spinal cord injuries. Now, therefore, I am [0:31:24, 0:31:44]: Anthony S. Ward by Virtual Authority Ves McNey as the mayor of the City of Stockbridge, Georgia. And on behalf of City Council members, Ellen Alexander, Milana Barber John, Kesia Gantt and Aphonso Thomas, who hereby encourage everyone to join us in raising awareness of spinal core injuries in our community. A witness thereof, I have here to uh set my hand [0:31:44, 0:31:52]: I'm the Great Seal of the City of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the 10th day of October, year of our Lord, 2022. And I signed this along for our tour of Promessa Holiday. [0:31:56, 0:31:57]: Okay. [0:31:58, 0:32:03]: If we have a well, if you have a proper uh I maybe you'll necessarily mean it might the floor is yours. [0:32:04, 0:32:12]: Mayor and Council, I would like to thank you all for presenting the proclamation and most importantly, Mr. Lutation, I would like to thank you. [0:32:14, 0:32:17]: Okay, thank you very much. Appreciate that. [0:32:19, 0:32:30]: You gonna show something to us here? Yes, I'm not sure if it's gonna have audio because it was just handed to me, so I will try my best to get this played. [0:32:32, 0:32:34]: I would like to you know turn I can't I can't [0:32:36, 0:32:44]: I'm sorry, I'll let it turn. I can't I can't. Okay. Okay, here we go. [0:32:50, 0:32:51]: Call me crazy bird. [0:32:52, 0:32:53]: Don't touch my truck. [0:32:56, 0:32:57]: Yep, yep. [0:32:59, 0:33:01]: Don't touch my truck. [0:33:05, 0:33:13]: Don't touch my wood grain dash with the matte black finishing Match my shautie with the big off buttons. [0:33:14, 0:33:21]: No them boys off cause I got hard business. You can show me if you wanna go and test your luck. [0:33:21, 0:33:23]: Set up, give me. [0:33:23, 0:33:25]: Back to six. [0:33:27, 0:33:30]: Sua estija. Quero sair, eu não quero. [0:33:50, 0:33:58]: We need to make taking pictures. We need we need to make sure we take pictures of all this here. [0:34:02, 0:34:04]: And [0:34:09, 0:34:14]: I'm gonna do this two ways. Okay. [0:34:15, 0:34:22]: Get this one and then I'm gonna come for the other side so I can get the seal in the background. Okay. [0:34:32, 0:34:35]: Fantastic. Congratulations. [0:34:45, 0:34:46]: Okay. [0:34:47, 0:34:47]: Four. [0:34:50, 0:34:53]: Ms. Taylor, are you present? [0:34:55, 0:35:03]: Taylor? Okay, this is in reference. Come on, Ms. Taylor, please. This pro next population is uh domestic violence awareness month. [0:35:05, 0:35:25]: How are you? All right. All right. Yeah, okay, what's coming on the side? Problem basic city is stock race, George, recognition of domestic violence awareness month. Whereas in October is able to recognize the National Domestic Violence Awareness Month, and whereas domestic violence in the pattern of [0:35:25, 0:35:28]: [2129.4, 2149.4]: Intimidated partner, current or former, uses to gain and maintain control over another. This abuse can occur in the form of physical, verbal, emotional, sexual, and economic control. Veterans often use these multiple tactics such as isolation, intimidation, sexual, and physical association. [0:35:49, 0:36:09]: Assault forced to substance abuse assaults threatening or assessive monitoring to control and manipulate victims and survivors. And whereas domestic violence affects maities across the US, regardless of cultural background, ethnicity, sexual orientation, faith, social economic status, ability, or educational background. [0:36:09, 0:36:29]: This means it's very likely we would all know someone who is a victim or survivor and someone who is an abuser. And whereas victims and survivors need comprehensive services, but more so genuine and non-judgmental support from friends, family, and our community. [0:36:29, 0:36:49]: Education and awareness are critical components of an effort to end domestic violence. Please contact Aiden House at 770-954-1008 or the crisis line at 770-954-9229 for local health and assistance. Now therefore I am [0:36:49, 0:37:09]: Award by virtual authority best and me as the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. And on behalf of City Council members Elden Alexander, Elana, Barber, John Bon, Peace, Gannon, and Afonso Thomas, we hereby proclaim October as domestic violence and awareness month in the city of Stockbridges. And we call on all citizens and communities to join the movement to end domestic violence. [0:37:09, 0:37:28]: violence. We must do our part to support victims and survivors and come together as a community to end this abusive behavior. And witness thereof I have here to set my hand, the great seal of the city of Scott Bridge, Georgia, on the 10th day of October, year of our Lord, 2022, my son Clerk and Isaac. [0:37:43, 0:38:02]: Do you have any comments then? Um I would like to say thank you again for men and women and just to tell you all to speak up, you know, your voice can be heard to save someone's life. It's nothing to be embarrassed about. Or if you know anybody that's suffering in silence, say something because just saying something can save someone's life. [0:38:02, 0:38:07]: [2288.0, 2308.0]: This next one is actually breast cancer awareness month. So uh kind of gonna pick this month, obviously, right? All right. In this aspect. So uh I don't know if there are any breast cancer survivors uh that are present that want to come forward. I will read this regardless. Anybody? All right. All right. [0:38:27, 0:38:47]: Whereas breast cancer is the most common type of cancer among women in the world, a second leading cause of cancer death among women in the United States. More than one in eight women and one of 833 men in the U.S. will be diagnosed with breast cancer in their lifetimes. Whereas breast cancer awareness month began in 1915. [0:38:47, 0:39:07]: 1985 as a partnership between American Cancer Society, Imperial Chemical Industries, Pharmaceuticals, AstroCeneco. And whereas we encourage all women and men to find out if they are at an increased risk to learn more about their amendments and screens by speaking with their health care providers earlier. [0:39:07, 0:39:27]: And whereas during breast cancer awareness month, we recognize that women and men courageously fight to survive, protect, treat, prevent, as court survivors of this devastating disease. And if you are a breast cancer survivor or have been recently diagnosed, October is a great time to be reminded. [0:39:27, 0:39:47]: remind you and that you're not alone. Now therefore I am asked for by virtue of authority investing me as the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on behalf of City Council members Elton, Alexander Yolon, Barber John, TC Gannon and Afonso Thomas, who hereby proclaim October as breast cancer awareness month in the city of Stockbridge, and we encourage and [0:39:47, 0:40:07]: Invite everyone to join us on Saturday, October 15th for the city's annual Pink Love Walk Community Park as we walk in supportive and in remembrance of those impacted by breast capsules. That's my way that starts at 11 o'clock. And witness thereof I have here unto set my hand, the great seal of the city startup is Georgia on the 10th. [0:40:07, 0:40:16]: Day of October year run lower of 2022. And I signed this along with my product that's a holiday. Okay. [0:40:31, 0:40:36]: So in a reference to a world mental health day, Miss Myers, please. [0:40:40, 0:41:00]: How are you? All right. Um up a little closer. Okay, proclamation once again, City Star Prince Georgia recognition of World Mental Health Day. Whereas the World Health Organization recognizes World Mental Health Day on October 10th of every year, whereas the [0:41:00, 0:41:20]: Theme of 2022's World Mental Health Day is to make mental health and well-being for all a global priority. And whereas mental health problems exist in our lives with our families, the workplace, and throughout communities impacting everyone, the COVID-19 pandemic highlighted and exacerbated the global mental [0:41:19, 0:41:39]: Health crisis, fueling short and long-term stresses and undermining the mental health families. Estimates put at the rise in both anxiety and depressive disorders at more than 25% during the first year of the pandemic. At the same time, mental health services were severely interrupted and the treatment. [0:41:39, 0:41:59]: Gap for mental health conditions was widened. And whereas World Mental Health Day is a chance to talk about mental health in general, how we need to look after it, look after it, yes, and how important it is to talk about things and get help. If you or someone else knows if they're struggling. [0:41:59, 0:42:19]: Stigma and discrimination continue to be a barrier to social inclusion and access to the right care. But we can all play a part in increasing awareness about which preventive mental health interventions work. Now, therefore, I am transformed by virtual authority invested in me and as a mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:42:19, 0:42:39]: On behalf of City Council members Alexander, Lada Barber, John Blount, Lakesa Gantt, and the Father Thomas who hereby proclaim October 10th, 2022, as Rural Mental Health Day and CS Stockbridge, and we encourage everyone to show your support in making mental health a priority in our community. A witness thereof, I have here unto [0:42:39, 0:42:50]: set by hand, the great sealed city of Stockbridge, Georgia, 10th day of October, year of our Lord, 2022. And I signed this along with our clerk for Mesa Holiday. [0:43:04, 0:43:24]: Please and well any any words that you want to order to us, please. Um I just want to say thank you so much. I'm so excited that I've been doing this work for about thirty years and before it was even, you know, really spoke about a lot with a lot of things and stigma attached to it. So I'm grateful for being able to, you know, to serve everyone from homeless domestic violence. [0:43:24, 0:43:35]: you know, depression, anxiety, all types of mental health in children and adults. But I'm just grateful to receive this and I'm hoping that people continue to seek out services and mental health services. [0:43:40, 0:43:41]: I guess. Um [0:43:42, 0:43:44]: I'm a living testimony. [0:43:46, 0:44:06]: And uh my story started a long time ago when I was a child and I didn't know anything about any any help when it comes to mental health. But I witnessed a lot, I wit witnessed domestic violence, I went through things as a child that I shouldn't have gone through. [0:44:06, 0:44:07]: Yeah. [0:44:07, 0:44:10]: Ten years ago I didn't want to be here anymore. [0:44:11, 0:44:18]: Thank goodness I was a veteran and I decided to call Veterans Hope. [0:44:18, 0:44:36]: And I'm still here, I'm still fighting, I'm fighting for myself and I'm fighting for others. Because people still don't want to, you know, think about how big of a difference it will make when people are killed. [0:44:39, 0:44:41]: Thank you. [0:44:44, 0:45:04]: Okay, National Women's Small Business Month, the show. And any any of your lady friends that want to come on up, come on. Please. Well I mean all ladies. I'm sorry. Come on. Small business on the [0:45:04, 0:45:05]: Oh [0:45:09, 0:45:15]: So you get one of those you can I too as well. Fantastic. [0:45:16, 0:45:18]: More thanks for the round. [0:45:28, 0:45:37]: Okay, quote myself Yeah he pop in because okay stop there is don't recognition national women small service one. [0:45:38, 0:45:46]: Whereas October is national. All right. [0:45:48, 0:46:08]: Whereas October is National Women's Small Business Month, which means it's time to recognize women-owned businesses everywhere, as well as outstanding progress female entrepreneurs have made over the years. And where starting a small business was once considered an undertaking. [0:46:08, 0:46:28]: primarily for men times and changes. There are currently over 12 million women-owned businesses in the United States. They employ nearly 10 million people to generate over 12, excuse me, 2 trillion in annual sales revenue. Whereas in October 1988, President Ronald Reagan assigned HR, for some House Resolution 50-50 [0:46:28, 0:46:48]: The Women's Business Ownership Act. This legislation increased federal support for all women-owned businesses and made it easier for female entrepreneurs to get working capital and business training assistance. Before this bill was signed into law, some states require women to have a male family member co-signed on the business loan applications. [0:46:48, 0:47:08]: Whereas entrepreneurship is a booming for women in the United States and various businesses, women are making a significant impact in professional services, healthcare, social services, educational services, and apparel and accessory industries. Now, therefore, I am scored by personal authority best of being as the mayor of the City of Stock Race, Georgia. On behalf of City Council. [0:47:08, 0:47:28]: members of Dallas and Lama Barber John Club and KC Gannon and Father Thomas do hereby proclaim October as National Women's Small Business Month in the City of Stockbridge Georgia. Witness thereof I have handed here unto set my hand with great seal of the city of Starbucks Georgia on the 10th day of October of the year of our Lord 2022 and assigned [0:47:28, 0:47:31]: [2852.1, 2860.6]: [0:47:46, 0:47:48]: You got in there? [0:47:48, 0:47:50]: Love girls. [0:47:50, 0:47:51]: Oh yeah. [0:47:53, 0:47:57]: Well we bad. [0:48:07, 0:48:11]: Fantastic. Okay. Uh you hear it? [0:48:12, 0:48:32]: Well, um thank you, City of Safbridge, um council and mayor. I am Ariel Shaw, founder and president of Southern Crescent Women in Business. These are members as well as business owners in the community. So if we could just take one second and just say what your business name is. [0:48:32, 0:48:32]: Mm-hmm. [0:48:35, 0:48:36]: Okay. [0:48:37, 0:48:38]: The gene is right. [0:48:40, 0:48:42]: Favorite. [0:48:43, 0:48:46]: A tiny team for a name line in helping show its agency. [0:48:47, 0:48:49]: Like beyond waterable wall rich. [0:48:49, 0:48:50]: [2934.0, 2935.1]: [0:49:19, 0:49:39]: Again, we think uh setting a stock raise. I want to make sure um while I have this public space to please come out to our funding pitch is going to be October 26th. It's gonna be at Merrill Mammers Conference Center, and we are there to fund a woman-owned business. So far we have funded four women-owned businesses, and so we're [0:49:39, 0:49:40]: [2989.4, 2992.8]: All right. [0:49:54, 0:49:58]: Yeah, okay. Yeah, come on up a minute. Uh solve okay. [0:50:01, 0:50:05]: Work this way, work this system. [0:50:07, 0:50:08]: Okay. [0:50:31, 0:50:40]: All right, good deal. Thank you. All right. All right, uh Michelle, you you must come back up, please. [0:50:43, 0:50:46]: And uh Glass and Woodall. [0:50:52, 0:51:12]: Ladies and gentlemen, this is the Ultra Balfour Score Citywide Development Authority. I have two members that are want to join us, uh join authority today. There you go, sir. All right. And what I'm gonna ask you to do is all gets here is to raise your right hand, and I'm gonna ask you to repeat after me. I'll take a small little snippet, sir. [0:51:12, 0:51:21]: Okay? Alright? Okay. Raise your right hand, please. I and then state your name. [0:51:21, 0:51:41]: Board okay board member do solemnly swear and affirm that I will faithfully perform the duties of the citywide development authority of the city of Stockbridge and that I will to the best of my ability [0:51:41, 0:52:01]: Support and defend the charter thereof, as well as the Constitution and laws of the state of Georgia and the United States of America. I further affirm that upon assumption of this office I do not hold. [0:52:01, 0:52:04]: No. Any unaccountable for public money? [0:52:04, 0:52:05]: Yeah. [0:52:06, 0:52:08]: Do a payable to the state? [0:52:08, 0:52:12]: in it local subdivision of the state. [0:52:12, 0:52:16]: The city of Scopridge or any authority thereof. [0:52:17, 0:52:18]: Nor do I hold [0:52:19, 0:52:23]: Any other office of trust of the government of the United States? [0:52:25, 0:52:26]: On this thing. [0:52:27, 0:52:30]: Or any foreign state as prescribed [0:52:31, 0:52:32]: By the wall. [0:52:32, 0:52:34]: Of the state of Georgia. [0:52:34, 0:52:36]: Uh so long with a firm. [0:52:37, 0:52:39]: That are fully qualified. [0:52:40, 0:52:50]: Under the constitution and the laws of the state to hold the office, Citywide Development Authority Board Member. [0:52:50, 0:53:10]: And that I will perform the duties of my office at the best of my interest. Best of my interest. Excuse me. Excuse me. Duties in the office, I'm sorry, excuse me. Duties of my office in the best interest of the city's stuff. [0:53:10, 0:53:13]: [3193.8, 3213.8]: That was a little wrong. Okay. To the best of my ability. Without fear. Without fear. Favor. Favor. Affection. Reward. Reward. Or expectation thereof. This is on the tenth day of October twenty twenty-two. Tenth day of October twenty twenty two. [0:53:33, 0:53:41]: Congratulations, got that little software in there. [0:53:41, 0:53:49]: No, we all we've all need to sign these documents here, but while we're doing this, any you have any comments that that you want to make publicly here to everybody? You have the floor? [0:53:52, 0:54:12]: Okay, so um I I mean thank you one council Alexander um who nominated me and thank you for the entire council and mayor for um supporting that nomination. I'm here to support City of Soccer as I have over several years and this would have been an official format. [0:54:17, 0:54:37]: Sir, if you have any comments, go ahead, please. Um, and the memory accounting um I think we have to prove it. So I'm not out here and I'd like to see um. [0:54:37, 0:54:42]: uh a great edition and we're reporting that I think we got [0:54:42, 0:54:59]: Okay. Oh, after training. I get that training. Do you sign many more or [0:55:08, 0:55:12]: Have a great day, the city of Scarborough. All right. [0:55:15, 0:55:16]: I think it's a both. [0:55:20, 0:55:25]: Okay. I will give me one second. So she'll take me just a second. Yeah, you wanna put that back while we take photos? Okay. [0:55:27, 0:55:37]: So um you want to seal the background here? Yes, please. Okay. But let's let's kind of look at this which you get from this angle. Please run it. [0:55:39, 0:55:40]: [3344.4, 3346.3]: [0:55:57, 0:56:07]: Thank you. Congratulations to March. All right. Okay, good. [0:56:08, 0:56:10]: So right here. [0:56:29, 0:56:40]: All right. What's next on our agenda would be a presentation of FY twenty twenty three annual operating budget and capital improvement plan. Mr. Gardner, please. [0:57:31, 0:57:32]: Alright. [0:57:33, 0:57:35]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. [0:57:35, 0:57:55]: Evening. Uh tonight. Uh my goal is to present to you uh FY twenty-three budget. And um so my goal for the presentation is to kind of reflect our funding for some key areas as well as kind of give you guys a high level view of the budget, and it might be a little bit more detailed. [0:57:55, 0:58:14]: detail than than you might be accustomed to, but um also talk a little bit about some of our challenges and some opportunities that have that have come awry and then get some some consensus from you guys as to how I wanna move it along and if that's okay with the council. [0:58:16, 0:58:36]: So as you guys know, early this year we worked with our strategic planning partner to come up with our strategic plan, our five-year strategic plan. We work with our staff in reference to after our meeting with the council back in February. Uh and our consultants are f finalizing our plan. Hopefully we bring that to you guys. [0:58:36, 0:58:56]: But we also wanted to kind of talk about funding in some areas around uh our four focus areas, which was our quality of life, cultural and brand development, economic growth, and sustainability. And with that, we've obviously provide funding in some of the key areas. And this is just a highlight, it's not all inclusive. [0:58:56, 0:59:09]: Um, but funding obviously to our park master plan, our continued funding for our public safety, as we noted, that's a high quality of life issue, as well as our infrastructure improvements over the next uh [0:59:10, 0:59:24]: fiscal year. Uh as it relates to brand obviously to keep funding for our amphitheater and have some cost savings associated with that in terms of change in venue management, but also funding for looking at potential funding for our cultural arts center. [0:59:24, 0:59:27]: And then also working around our way finding program. [0:59:28, 0:59:44]: As relates to economic growth, obviously the council has CFA to start uh development authority, citywide development authority, which is funded under the budget, but funding also for the D DA and I will try to leverage funds outside thereof for additional funding for both of those entities to operate. [0:59:44, 0:59:47]: Also part of that is working on some key [0:59:47, 0:59:52]: some key incentive programs around our tax allocation district, our TAD. [0:59:52, 1:00:12]: as well as opportunity zones and enterprise zones where we can properly put them. So we're working in this on that sustainability, obviously one of the key things we've heard about is how do we reduce our carbon footprint for sustainability. We're working on that through charging stations, as well as uh looking at stormwater so that we don't get any descent concrete around storm. [1:00:12, 1:00:22]: water management. And I'll tell you today I had to stop and pull over and tell some guys they were blowing leaves on Country Club Drive into the street. And I'm like, guys, what are y'all doing? You all supposed to pick this stuff up. [1:00:23, 1:00:27]: Um you're not supposed to do that'cause it gets in the storm drain, but they were just blowing as they go. [1:00:30, 1:00:41]: So some of the highlights and priority areas. Obviously we talk about infrastructure improvements and continuing moving in that phase. Obviously in terms of parks improvements, making sure we do some uh additional things around our parks. [1:00:42, 1:01:02]: Which are all passive and not act active. We don't host recreation programs. Um implementation of all of our SPLUS funded projects, making sure we keep in compliance with our SPLUS laws, but also moving those projects forward. Um implementing some changes in technology, and you'll start to see some of that around our work, our website, as well as some of the software that we're hoping. [1:01:02, 1:01:22]: To put in place over the next fiscal year. But also one of the big things is obviously road paving, making sure we continue our road paving. And as uh our public works director informed you guys recently, we're about, you know, last year we completed around five miles of roadway resurfacing, repaving, as well as sidewalk improvements at about two miles. [1:01:22, 1:01:25]: miles. So our goal is to continue moving in that area. [1:01:26, 1:01:29]: And one of the key projects in Dear to My Heart is downtown redevelopment. [1:01:30, 1:01:32]: And as you guys know, we've been working around [1:01:32, 1:01:44]: Um the downtown with our market analysis as well as me working with some developers to talk about interest in our downtown areas, specifically those properties that we currently own where we can get a lot of traction around. [1:01:44, 1:01:55]: revitalizing the downtown area and turning the face of our downtown around. Um, I did mention economic incentives. That's one of the key things, some key tools we're missing out of our toolbox that we need. [1:01:56, 1:02:00]: Um and can utilize and I mentioned that earlier some round uh tad. [1:02:00, 1:02:13]: That's going to be a huge deal to make some things happen here in the downtown area because as we grow residential development in the downtown, there's going to be a need for parking. And that'll be one of the key things we're going to have to address is structured parking downtown. [1:02:14, 1:02:21]: Um some of the key indicators of that is making sure right now we've got some grant monies that we're going after to connect uh [1:02:22, 1:02:42]: the west side of the train tracks with the east side of the train tracks. Uh and that's gonna be a huge deal through some of the federal funding that we got. And um we're real excited about the funding opportunities around that. And that's gonna help from an economic development standpoint,'cause somebody who lives here can tr easily traverse it when we build, can traverse over to the other side to [1:02:42, 1:02:46]: to entertain wine and dine uh as we go downtown. [1:02:46, 1:02:51]: Um continuing to look for funding options to fill that gap for the Cultural Art Center. [1:02:51, 1:02:53]: And then as we mentioned earlier before. [1:02:53, 1:03:06]: Focusing and making sure that the police department gets where they need to be, as uh our chief and his command staff say, not the best police department in the state of Georgia or the South East or the United States, but the best police department in the world. [1:03:09, 1:03:29]: So this year our for overall funding across all funds for the city is right at forty two forty nine point two million. That's uh twenty one point seven million for our fund balance, about a million dollars in grants. Hotel motel about three set three hundred and seventy five thousand. And we propose to see that increase because we're they're look [1:03:29, 1:03:40]: likelihood is we'll have four new hotels coming online um next year. We got two, three currently under construction. So two over in the Eagles Landing area, one over [1:03:40, 1:03:59]: on the west side of town on highway one hundred thirty eight and there's a proposal for an additional hotel that I'll talk to you guys about tonight um in the Eagles landing area around the hotel. But our overall budget for the year across all funds is forty nine point two million. [1:04:01, 1:04:08]: So how is that distributed in terms of general fund 21.7, uh sanitation one point nine? [1:04:09, 1:04:11]: Stormwater just over a million. [1:04:11, 1:04:27]: Uh water sewer fund one point nine million. Uh water fund two point three million. Uh capital outlay citywide is three point thirteen point five, URA one point two, uh grants red out a million dollars. And that accounts for that forty nine point two million. [1:04:31, 1:04:51]: So when we talk about how those expenses are even broken down even further, as you know, our number one resource is our people. And obviously in any organization you're gonna be people heavy in local government. So right now we're budgeting across all departments in the city eleven point five million uh for contracts and services. We're right at [1:04:51, 1:04:52]: I don't get enlarged. [1:04:54, 1:04:55]: Go on. [1:04:57, 1:05:00]: I can't even see what's on the screen. Oh [1:05:01, 1:05:12]: Uh three point eight million. Uh supplies across the city, one point four one point five million. Uh capital outlays in the general fund right at four hundred and seventy eight. [1:05:13, 1:05:22]: Um other costs sixty one hundred and sixty two thousand and other financing uses, which is usually our debt service for all of our bonds and so forth at four point two million. [1:05:26, 1:05:28]: Talk a little bit about our capital fund operations. [1:05:31, 1:05:33]: So in our capital fund operations [1:05:33, 1:05:39]: Um when we talk about revenues and remember your budget is not predicated on expenses, it's predicated on revenues. [1:05:40, 1:05:51]: So that's that's the key thing we have to look at. Your budget is not predicated on expense, it's predicated on ex on revenues. So revenues being generated through our taxation, and I'll break that down a little bit further for you, is right around [1:05:52, 1:06:01]: Right around 12.2 million from license and fees. We propose to hover around thirty uh three one point three million dollars in uh license and permits. [1:06:02, 1:06:05]: Excuse me, intergovernmental about one point two. [1:06:05, 1:06:17]: million, charges for services, three hundred and sixty five thousand. Fines and forfeitures right around nine hundred and ten. As you know, we started our new police department. So we now see we'll see some growth and especially in our fines. [1:06:18, 1:06:20]: As these guys go about doing their jobs. [1:06:21, 1:06:33]: Um investment income obviously is a little to none because we don't do a lot of major investments. Um but some miscellaneous income around four point seven and other sources just under a million dollars for a total of twenty one point seven million. [1:06:39, 1:06:59]: So when we talk about percentages, what is you know, what's our major source of revenue is it's gonna be coming from taxation, of which I'll even show you a a break further breakdown of what that looks like. But lost is our number one. And that's where we have some potential challenges. And I'll talk about those challenges as I go through the presentation. Um, as you know, we're in our final year. [1:06:59, 1:07:19]: Of loss, and we're in negotiations with the county regarding loss. And we sent you guys an email kind of updating you guys as to where we were with uh loss negotiations recently. So we're proposing to keep the loss split as they have been over the last 10 years. The county obviously is disagreeing with that, thinking that somewhere [1:07:19, 1:07:39]: Around seventy plus or more percentage of the loss should come from should go to them. Uh and so we had a meeting rec last week, Wednesday, we're prepared to go to arbitration. And um I kind of set out the rules to you guys in that memo as to how we're gonna move forward on that. But that's our number one source. [1:07:40, 1:08:00]: The miscellaneous income is another one of our major sources, fines, uh intergovernmental agreements, and permits. So right around 59% of our income comes from which should be your loss, your hotel motel, your liquor tax, um, insurance, premium tax, all those added up for your taxes. [1:08:00, 1:08:00]: [4084.0, 4092.6]: And this is what that looks like when we break it on down even further in terms of what we're proposing for lost. And so that loss number is gonna be a variable. [1:08:13, 1:08:21]: Um, we don't know exactly where we're gonna end up. Right now the county is proposing that we stay at the same for the first year, which is 6634. [1:08:22, 1:08:24]: Um but if sometimes they agree [1:08:25, 1:08:34]: Um to us to something different, obviously and we come to an agreement and that percentage dropped, that has a potential effect on on what our loss would overall be. [1:08:35, 1:08:40]: That's one of the biggest areas that that we have to look at um as it relates to our loss. [1:08:45, 1:09:05]: And as I mentioned before, uh budget, primarily these are the key areas around your budget when you develop your budget, your general fund, fiduciary funds, which are like your investment and pension, um, your enterprise funds, which we have three of water, sewer, sanitation, stormwater, uh special funds, which is SPLOSS and Grants, capital funds. [1:09:04, 1:09:12]: Fund, which is usually funded through uh capital, can be funded through grants, but major funds usually general fund and enterprise funds. [1:09:16, 1:09:28]: So when we talk about the general fund and how that's how those one that twenty-one point seven is distributed, um you will see by your chart. Oh, excuse me. [1:09:30, 1:09:50]: You'll see by your chart that public safety. And in most go governmental agencies, whether you have police or police and fire, that's usually your number one, that's where the bulk of your general fund revenues go to funding. It's public safety. So for us, we just have police, right? So police is gonna be our biggest department, it's our largest department by man. [1:09:50, 1:09:52]: Manpower, but also by equipment. [1:09:53, 1:09:55]: Right, so they make up about thirty four percent. [1:09:55, 1:10:03]: Uh where the money goes into the general fund, Public Works S next, which is the second biggest department usually in most governments, public works. [1:10:03, 1:10:06]: Right around eighteen percent, planning and development ten percent. [1:10:07, 1:10:23]: Uh other governmental entity uh activities, right around nine percent, governmental body three percent, city clerk two percent, executive four percent, finance four percent, governmental buildings um five percent, and economic development at two percent. [1:10:27, 1:10:47]: So to kind of give you a brief history of where we have been with our general fund over the years and as we continue to diversify and grow as a city, obviously, so grow with our uh operational costs. So over the last five years, we've gone from ten point eight million to twenty-one point seven million with last year. [1:10:47, 1:10:52]: year on and this is un unaudited, but eighteen point four million for the general fund. [1:10:56, 1:11:01]: Talk a little bit more about our capital and where we are with our capital outlays. [1:11:01, 1:11:02]: For the next year. [1:11:04, 1:11:08]: This kinda gives you a breakdown of our capital program um by department. [1:11:09, 1:11:10]: Right. [1:11:22, 1:11:32]: So public works, as you will know, makes up the bulk of our capital in terms of where that revenue goes to. And a lot of that I'll break down even further so you'll get a good idea of where those funds come from. [1:11:33, 1:11:43]: Um but public works is number one, water sewer, number two, uh public safety is number three, stormwater and the Merylanders is four, five. [1:11:46, 1:12:06]: So when we talk about even a little bit more drill down in terms of what's in the capital budget, um police tactical gear and equipment at one point 1.6 million, uh equipment for parks or improvements to our parks, about 300,000, resurfacing program, a million dollars, road ray intersection improvement. [1:12:06, 1:12:23]: And you'll see our funding sources for those is typically SPLOS or T SPLOS and a few general funds. And we have some APA funds that we're putting towards the court building at 84,000. But our water and sewer systems, 3.3 million, water distribution, 600,000. [1:12:23, 1:12:34]: Uh five point five million dollars, which is our Ts plus Plus, uh at five point five million, city repairs three hundred thousand, well man is two thirty nine, uh stormwater upgrades are three hundred and fifty thousand. [1:12:39, 1:12:59]: So to talk about our budget process and how we started, we you know we developed a calendar sender back to you guys back in June, kinda outlaying um our dates and times where we'd be going. We did some of our projections around our revenues. Um then we asked our departments to work on what their expenditures would be for the air for the FY twenty three budget. Um [1:12:59, 1:13:16]: They work with that with us. We reviewed it, went through it, made some cuts. We'll still make some adjustments even after we give you this documents. There'll be some adjustments being made um in the budget. Um but our overall is to stay under our revenue numbers. So we'll just be moving some numbers around. [1:13:16, 1:13:27]: um in certain departments as we go along. Uh changes and adjustments to the budget. We talked about um submittal the council. So under our ordinance section six point two four [1:13:28, 1:13:30]: You, the city council, are required to get the budget. [1:13:31, 1:13:35]: Sixty days from the date of adoption. That sixty day would be November second. [1:13:36, 1:13:41]: I buy a calendar date for this year. You guys are getting it on October tenth, that gives you roughly about [1:13:41, 1:13:43]: Two and a half months to review the budget. [1:13:44, 1:13:48]: Right, um and gun backs requ with comments and I'll get into that a little bit more. [1:13:50, 1:13:52]: So when we talk about the timeline. [1:13:52, 1:13:56]: Um, we're out at this. We're I'm doing this presentation and submitted to you tonight. [1:13:57, 1:14:17]: Our goal is obviously to get uh put on the on our agenda for October 25th question and answer. So hopefully between now and then you guys will have some questions. But look hopefully what I would hopefully to do for expedience and efficiency and effectiveness is that as you go through, email any of your comments to us, we'll address them. All of those comments we're [1:14:17, 1:14:31]: When we apply for our GOFA award, which I think will be the first time the city's actually gotten one and if we get it this year, we're gonna apply. We wanna put all the city councils comments as an appendix in that application, in our document. [1:14:31, 1:14:40]: Right, so they will see that council was involved in the process and they'll have someone to see where those questions were that you guys have. But that'll help us get through the process. Our goal is [1:14:41, 1:15:01]: for council to have the first read of the budget um on November twenty ninth. We'll have the first read of our budget and then the second read of the budget December twelfth and the adoption of the budget and then we just go forward. So my goal is hopefully we're not at the last minute as I saw as a as a resident last year where we were [1:15:01, 1:15:03]: We were switching numbers at the last eight. [1:15:04, 1:15:18]: It's not a really good good view when you're doing that. So hopefully over the next two and a half months you guys will give us all your questions. We'll make any amendments necessary. And then hopefully walk out with a budget with a balanced budget adopted December twelfth. [1:15:19, 1:15:39]: All right, so what I understand and this is the introduction to this. This is the introduction, higher level over overview for you guys. This uh the PowerPoint is included in in your pocket with the budget. So any questions you guys have as of today, just send them to us, we'll answer them and we'll keep track of those questions those answers as we go with the dates. [1:15:39, 1:15:59]: And at the end, when we put together the GOFA budget, which is going to be a little bit more expansive than this, you will actually have, we'll talk a little bit more about the demographics of the city, which will look at incomes, housing costs, a lot of that other stuff the GOFA wants to see what's going on. Not only will that [1:15:59, 1:16:02]: help us with a GOFA award but actually when we [1:16:03, 1:16:13]: look to go and apply for a bond rating so we'll know exactly what the city's creditworthiness is, right? What our score is. And mind you, you might get a score double A. [1:16:14, 1:16:19]: One or two, that doesn't mean within a year or two, if we do some things, they'll move us up. [1:16:20, 1:16:40]: to a triple A rating. Um but definitely to apply for a bond rating for the city. I think it's high time that the city does that because as we move forward on some other major projects, that bond rating determines what our creditworthiness is going to be and what interest we pay on any future debts that we may have. As well as you know making sure [1:16:40, 1:17:00]: we keep some props some capital projects going. So this was just a presentation, a high level overview for you guys tonight. We'll be back at it again on the 25th to take any questions you might as generate it between now and then and then obviously keep it moving until we have a satisfactory document that everybody feel comfortable with and we can move forward with FY23. [1:16:59, 1:17:00]: January one. [1:17:01, 1:17:03]: All right, sir. Thank you for the presentation. [1:17:05, 1:17:06]: Just briefly. [1:17:06, 1:17:26]: If you would, and for us um for the general public to understand how aggressive the city how fast the city is growing in terms of economic development over the last few years, economic development has has accelerated and has actually pushed our revenue up. And then uh on the other side of that. [1:17:26, 1:17:46]: That we are pursuing every available federal dollar uh that's on the table, the infrastructure money, the uh and we have a dedicated grants person. Could you talk about that a little bit? So folks can understand that we're going after dollars in for the city. Yes. So in terms of an outside from a lot of uh [1:17:46, 1:18:06]: And from a grant standpoint, we are tapping every federal resource that we have out there in terms of what we can qualify for as a city of our size. Um we're looking at them especially to help around operations. I will tell you the biggest area where we're where we seek seek to see some gains is gonna be around public safety because as you know that's been a huge [1:18:06, 1:18:26]: If you haven't been paying attention to some of the ads that's been going on for the upcoming election, crime is a big deal. And I think that there's been funds put out there to help us. Obviously, we some of it is very competitive, which we have to apply for. But that's gonna help us a a big deal around um additional resources for public safety. But all not also public [1:18:26, 1:18:28]: public safety but also around public [1:18:29, 1:18:49]: um public works. So there's a lot of infrastructure monies out there that we're looking at and going after. One of them is being the bridge project and we've worked closely with GDOT and they felt strongly that the application that we submit will be s will be funded by the administration to give us the opportunity to go through the planning process. [1:18:49, 1:19:09]: Once that done, that document can then be used to actually put for implementation, which is construction of the bridge. The w pedestrian bridge, let me say that. Yes, ma'am. Yeah, go ahead, Ms. Gan, I'm sorry. You mentioned some of the grants. We hired someone this year in regards to grants. Are they managing the grants or are they going [1:19:09, 1:19:29]: Or writing or going after the grants and writing and applying for those grants. So until we they will be managing the grants as we get them in uh uh in conjunction with the departments, because obviously the departments will be the ones implementing, but they're also making sure that we're writing policies because that's one number one. We didn't have any grant policies. So [1:19:29, 1:19:49]: She's had to develop a lot of those policies and some of them is on the agenda tonight. One of them on the agenda tonight. Where we talk about, you know, how we do certain things based on the grants that we get, whether they come with federal requirements, because as you know, federal grants come with a lot of requirements, and we've got to adhere to those. But just having grant policies, so I know she's done a lot of that, but she's also [1:19:49, 1:20:09]: Work in conjunction with Public Works and the police department around getting them grants that we and you guys send to us. She's already in that pipeline looking at those and making sure that we qualify for those and applying for those in conjunction with the departments because it's not a one-person. A grant person doesn't write grants by themselves, they write grants in [1:20:08, 1:20:16]: In conjunction with the department in which they're working with, because they're the source of the information that she would need to make those happen. And that's a good thing. [1:20:17, 1:20:18]: Thank you. You're welcome. [1:20:19, 1:20:23]: Any other questions quickly for this or Miss Barber, you have anything in r right now? [1:20:24, 1:20:28]: Okay, all right. Thank you, Mr. Gardner. Appreciate it. All right, good deal. [1:20:30, 1:20:50]: Council consideration to approve change order from the summit construction for amphitheater parking lot improvements on North Lee Street. Original amount uh was$108,554, adjusted to$750,007 and 81 cents with a savings of$51,500. [1:20:50, 1:21:02]: $146.19. Funding source is from SPLOS, presented by Mr. Aaron and Skip Layton on this. Thank you, gentlemen. Please. [1:21:03, 1:21:03]: Number one. [1:21:05, 1:21:06]: Let's go on here. [1:21:13, 1:21:28]: Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. During uh last month work session, uh Falcon Design reviewed the proposed change order and realized there was a possible chance for some savings. So tonight Mr. Skip Layton is here to present that information. [1:21:30, 1:21:31]: Thank you, Dacius. [1:21:31, 1:21:48]: Mayor, Council. As we stated, uh and I do want you to understand that before that came to you originally, we had already discussed these uh issues with the contractor several times. That was the best number we could get at that time, but we were continuing to work. Uh [1:21:48, 1:21:55]: He has now given us a complete breakdown of all his costs associated with the ones we thought had a little uh fat in them. [1:21:56, 1:22:16]: Excuse me. And uh that out of that we did uh were able to trim fifty one thousand five hundred and forty six dollars and nineteen cents. And we feel that uh this is a fair and equitable uh change order at this time for just over the three quarter million to do the uh parking lots and the improvements. [1:22:16, 1:22:21]: uh to uh Lee Street all the way to Bryant and coming into the amphitheater entranceway. [1:22:23, 1:22:27]: Okay. Any questions, Council, for Mr. Leighton or Deus? [1:22:29, 1:22:49]: Yeah, yeah, go right, please. I just wanna thank you guys for going back and getting that skimmed for us and making sure that we got the answers that we needed. Um I appreciate Adam actually speaking to that um at the last meeting. So fifty one thousand it is is to me a big deal. Oh yeah and so it's uh great savings and I I would like to [1:22:49, 1:22:51]: To make a motion to approve. [1:22:51, 1:23:11]: Okay, is there a second to the motion? Second. Okay, good any further discussion? If not all I would like to ask a question. Okay, go ahead. So what's the timetable look like in terms of us uh uh moving these forward? Uh and then Mr. Aaron, if you could give us a update for the public uh point of view on East Atlanta, uh what [1:23:11, 1:23:31]: What does that look like moving these projects forward? Well we'll put together the change order immediately if the council approves and uh give it to the contractor for execution. The city has to execute it and then we expect them to go to work on these right away. They're as you know, they're still being sorta held up by Georgia Power on uh [1:23:31, 1:23:42]: uh Lee and East Atlanta. Uh we have all the easements, but we don't have the easements, if that makes any sense. Uh the last easement that was needed was the uh First Baptist Church. [1:23:43, 1:24:03]: The attorney, uh Miss uh Angie Robinson, had gotten that easement, but Georgia Power needed an easement from the same people. So uh in an effort to try and speed the process up, she had us revisit our exhibits and include Georgia Power into those, and she went back to have negotiations with the [1:24:03, 1:24:11]: with them to try and get, you know, it all under one umbrella. We don't know where the status is on that right now. If we should hear something in the next week or so. [1:24:12, 1:24:13]: Mm-hmm. [1:24:13, 1:24:14]: Thank you. [1:24:14, 1:24:21]: Motion's been made by second. All favor of motion, please indicate. Thank you. Congratulate. Thank you, gentlemen. All right. Thank you, Council. [1:24:23, 1:24:30]: Council consideration to amend amphitheater policy to create a non-compete clause for private events and concerts. [1:24:31, 1:24:39]: Concerts and provide uh for revenue sharing uh for profit events. For profit events. Mr. Gardner, please. [1:24:41, 1:24:41]: Mm. [1:24:47, 1:25:07]: I I apologize for messing up the the the danger bell that bad. Um hopefully the city clerk could help me out fix it. All right, um mayor council, um obviously we brought this to you guys earlier this summer to move forward on a comprehensive policy for the use of the amphitheater. [1:25:07, 1:25:15]: And one of the areas where we realized that we potentially had a conflict as it relates to potential c competition. [1:25:15, 1:25:35]: Um with the city and its cities venue management um around the use of the amphitheater um came came to a head. Um thank you that obviously that deal did not go through, but we have made some amendments um to the document on page five. [1:25:35, 1:25:42]: If you can find that, and it's around the cost per hour for the use of the amphitheater. [1:25:43, 1:25:50]: Uh the cost and at the bottom under commerci under commercial and for profit events. [1:25:52, 1:26:06]: And that the Incle has reviewed these and felt comfortable with'em. But we also made another amendment in there that if we do have a concert that not only do we get the ten thousand, but we get the ten thousand plus twenty percent. Um so in that first um [1:26:07, 1:26:17]: bullet point where it says open to public where the primary objective is making a profit. We put in there, however, no commercial [1:26:17, 1:26:19]: All for profit event. [1:26:20, 1:26:33]: All concert shall be allowed in the amphitheater. That means that we're not allowing any commercial any other entity, like another promotion company that could come in and want to bring a slate of of uh artists to the amphitheater. [1:26:33, 1:26:46]: Whereby paying us ten thousand dollars and then walking out of the door with potentially a hundred to two hundred thousand in profits at the gate,'cause they'll be controlling the fee at that point. That won't happen, um, under this provision. [1:26:49, 1:27:00]: And where we do have a fork bushel project that's other than a competing type concert that they charge, we will get a share of the box at twenty percent. They'll take eighty. [1:27:01, 1:27:02]: Plus to ten thousand. [1:27:03, 1:27:03]: that we would get in home. [1:27:04, 1:27:06]: Yes, ma'am. All right, Ms. Gantt do you have a question? [1:27:06, 1:27:07]: I do. [1:27:07, 1:27:08]: Okay. [1:27:10, 1:27:17]: So are you saying that this purpose is for non profit? Because I said for profit. Okay. For profit. But [1:27:17, 1:27:20]: It says in red, having no commercial for profit event. [1:27:21, 1:27:36]: Or concerts shall be allowed in the amphitheater. So we're making sure that I wanna be clear that no other entity can have concerts here. No, we're not allowed for any promotion, any and it typically when they do it it would be a [1:27:37, 1:27:39]: Let's say a third party promoter. [1:27:39, 1:27:45]: that comes in with a slate of artists, you know, Ford, Gantt, Alexander Barber that's gonna come in. [1:27:46, 1:27:51]: And they're gonna rent it from us under the old provision, they would have paid us ten thousand dollars, rented the amphitheater. [1:27:51, 1:27:52]: Go out there promote it. [1:27:53, 1:28:02]: And then they could have potentially made two hundred, three hundred thousand dollars in profit. We only made ten and they could have competed or locked out potential artists that we were looking to get. [1:28:03, 1:28:16]: Um that won't happen under this. We won't lease it to anybody who's doing a for profit, a for profit promoter coming in to r to release the amphitheater would not be able to do that under this provision. I understand that your example [1:28:16, 1:28:17]: But [1:28:17, 1:28:22]: Based off of what you're saying, it sounds like we're still allowing for other [1:28:22, 1:28:28]: Entities to have concerts here. Not not concerts. So let's say I wanted to come in and do a play. [1:28:29, 1:28:31]: And I wanted to charge for a plea. [1:28:31, 1:28:37]: That's not a concert. So we would uh so Bell Ethnic if you're familiar with Bell Ethnic. And then we would split the profits on that. [1:28:37, 1:28:45]: So benefic so they come in and they want to do the nutcrocker and some other stuff during Christmas. Correct. Right? Whatever they char we they release it from us for ten. [1:28:46, 1:28:48]: Right. And then whatever their ticket box is. [1:28:48, 1:28:53]: Whatever they make, we get ten percent of our ticket box. They did d twenty percent, they get eighty. [1:28:53, 1:28:54]: Okay. [1:28:56, 1:28:56]: Okay. [1:28:57, 1:29:00]: Any other questions? Ms. Uh Ms. Barber, go ahead please. [1:29:01, 1:29:05]: I'm not sure I understand. Help me. Um [1:29:05, 1:29:08]: So if someone wanted to do a comedy show. [1:29:08, 1:29:08]: Okay. [1:29:09, 1:29:13]: Same thing. So if they want to do a comedy show, which is naughty, [1:29:14, 1:29:29]: concert that competes against whoever our venue person is or us are doing a concert, which you ours are typically free. When we host them, they're free. But our venue person that's overseeing the amphitheater, if he brings in some acts, [1:29:29, 1:29:42]: Obviously because he's not doing comedy, that will be a non that that's not a competitive issue. So they will be able to allow to lease the amphitheater at ten thousand dollars and give us twenty percent of whatever the box. So let's say they brought in [1:29:44, 1:29:45]: Ricky smiley. [1:29:45, 1:29:46]: Right. [1:29:46, 1:29:49]: And a Ricky Smiley comes in and do a concert. [1:29:49, 1:29:52]: And it's done by somebody else or Ricky Smiley promotions. [1:29:53, 1:29:53]: Right. [1:29:53, 1:29:55]: Ricky Lepeyos ten. [1:29:56, 1:30:00]: thousand to use it and then give us twenty percent of whatever that box fee would be. [1:30:00, 1:30:11]: 'Cause he's not a concert, he's not an a uh performing act per se, in terms of a concert, because that's where our venue management releases for act, recording artists. [1:30:12, 1:30:13]: Which is different from a comedy show. [1:30:14, 1:30:15]: Different from a biasia. [1:30:16, 1:30:17]: So they would be able to do it. [1:30:22, 1:30:31]: So a comedy show starring Ricky Ricky Smiley? Yes. A third party promoter promoting Ort Ren and Fire? No. [1:30:34, 1:30:34]: See the difference? [1:30:36, 1:30:40]: So what if someone wanted to do a co gospel concert then? [1:30:40, 1:30:42]: They want to do a gospel concert. [1:30:42, 1:30:44]: And they have connections. [1:30:45, 1:30:47]: of artists to do the gospel concert. [1:30:47, 1:30:56]: If that if if they're doing it for profit and it is competitive against what what our venue manager is doing, no. That's considered a concert, that's a no no. [1:31:00, 1:31:02]: So there's no way for us to [1:31:02, 1:31:19]: Partner or And here's why. I mean if if our venue person is bringing in a gospel or a couple of gossip black under the next year series, we wouldn't want someone competing against him and w um competing against us. So hence the answer to that would be no. [1:31:21, 1:31:24]: Because that could potentially be a third party R and B [1:31:25, 1:31:27]: Productions, bringing on [1:31:28, 1:31:48]: Mary Mary and um I I don't really listen to gospel music I couldn't tell you. But you can But they could partner with the city of Stockbridge. Now if they're partnering with the city of Stockbridge, that's a different issue. Okay. Yeah. That's a different this is this is dealing solely for any for profit event. Okay, not city. [1:31:48, 1:31:56]: In conjunction with RB to bring in Kirk Franklin and Merritt. That's a whole different ballgame. Gotcha. Thank you. Yes, ma'am. [1:31:57, 1:32:17]: Go ahead, sir. You did? Yeah, okay, for clarification, we've had fraternities and sorority, which are non-profits, they're not profit. They might hold a fundraiser. I think we had us sorority hold a fund table with Anthony David for example. So how would that um work? [1:32:17, 1:32:37]: under this where they would be able to come in, they would hold their fundraiser as a nonprofit with uh with an artist because that has happened here. So they they would fall up underneath that category at the top of the page if they're non profit uh non profit benefit concert, they'll fall underneath that category. I'm sorry, I don't have Tom what it what are the terms on that again? [1:32:37, 1:32:41]: Twenty five hundred. So it's on the city. [1:32:42, 1:32:48]: So on page five. Okay. So on page five of the uh agenda item number eight. [1:32:54, 1:33:03]: Okay, so so there's no matching percentage for them. No. And that could potentially be a concert. [1:33:04, 1:33:06]: Um no [1:33:06, 1:33:10]: If they're if they're not charging anybody to get in [1:33:10, 1:33:30]: That's not considered a a for profit event. So it's like the city hosting an event. If they come in and they want to do a free event, they're allowed to do that. If they want to do a for profit concert to bring in artists, they're not allowed, even if they're not profitable. But but there's a difference. See you can hold a fundraiser and you can charge [1:33:30, 1:33:50]: for the fundraiser, but it's not going to profit with non profit organizations. It's going to fundraising. It's not for profit. Right. So I'm not going to be able to do under the legal lease they are five oh one C three or what have you. So the sororities and fraternities are five oh one C three. So under this they would pay that flat two hundred and [1:33:50, 1:33:55]: uh twenty five hundred but we won't get a share of any of any of the proceeds. [1:33:55, 1:33:57]: But will they be able to charge admission? [1:33:58, 1:33:59]: Well [1:33:59, 1:34:02]: I mean, that's how they're gonna make their money, is they're gonna have to charge mission. [1:34:04, 1:34:23]: But again, again, the the definition that you're using of for profit is not necessarily inconcise with what a non profit is, because we non profits hold fundraisers where they charge for admittance all the time. Right. So under under under bullet point number four, you see where it says admission or entry fee may be charged? [1:34:23, 1:34:24]: So they're allowed to charge. [1:34:26, 1:34:42]: If they're not if they're doing it as a benefit event and they're not walking off of the with the proceeds. Okay, so okay. So they would be able to charge. They can charge, yes. Okay. Okay. And I and and I will tell you we will always wanna make sure that whatever they're doing is not in competition with us'cause if it is, then we won't let'em. [1:34:42, 1:34:45]: 'Cause our goal is not to compete against ourselves. [1:34:46, 1:34:47]: Certainly. Yep. [1:34:48, 1:34:57]: If it's a are you saying that non profits can have concerts? I mean they might. I mean they might wanna like she said they might wanna do let's say [1:34:57, 1:35:01]: A church wanna do a gospel thing, but it's going towards [1:35:01, 1:35:08]: Hinds of hope hands of hope. There is one hundred percent is going to a charity, then it's not for a profit event. [1:35:09, 1:35:13]: As long as they're not competing against any of our artists or locking out any of our potential artists. [1:35:14, 1:35:15]: They should be fine. [1:35:16, 1:35:25]: How do you measure that though? How would you be because when they apply as part of the application, they need to let us know what they're doing in the application? [1:35:25, 1:35:27]: And we get to review that application and say yay or nay. [1:35:28, 1:35:29]: So [1:35:30, 1:35:32]: I probably would much rather [1:35:33, 1:35:37]: To me it's still gonna be a little messy. I would prefer [1:35:38, 1:35:47]: in general, if it's a if it's a any type of concert, they would have anybody would have to partner with Startbridge. If it was a concert [1:35:47, 1:36:05]: If there's somebody that wanted to do a concert, I feel like they would have to partner with Stockbridge. I don't think I think it would be a little cloudy and uh, you know, messy trying to determine, okay, this artist uh hey, Stockbridge, are we doing this artist? No. [1:36:05, 1:36:10]: You have to if you want to have any type of concert, you're gonna partner with Stockbridge. [1:36:11, 1:36:28]: And the other type of shows and acts and balls or whatever, like uh my sorority, we do wine tasting event or whatever that case may be. We might have a now we don't do that anymore. But they are interested, I know. Mm aka's by the way. And um [1:36:30, 1:36:35]: You know, for scholarships or whatever the case may be, then fine, so be it. But if it's a concert [1:36:36, 1:36:37]: Then they have to partner. [1:36:38, 1:36:39]: With Stockbridge. [1:36:40, 1:36:41]: But the [1:36:41, 1:36:43]: I just think that makes sense. [1:36:44, 1:37:04]: The the reason that I say that is because we actually had that happen where a provider came to us, one of the sororities, then they ended up going to McDonough because they we didn't have that option available to them. Where they had I mean, the profit margin for them was very slim. So they really if they split the profit they really weren't gonna be making any money. So [1:37:04, 1:37:24]: i these margins are very slim. So I it was a special situation where they came to us, they went I want to call them the f the sorority out, but they did uh come to us and then there was a profit arrangement and there was w they they weren't able to work that out. Yeah. I get it. And and and mind you, I mean [1:37:24, 1:37:36]: you're we're not gonna write something to gonna catch every potential issue, but to address what you were saying as it relates to a nonprofit benefit event, um, any mus any musical event. [1:37:36, 1:37:40]: Tell me what you think about this. Any musical event shall require a partnership [1:37:40, 1:37:43]: Um an approval by the city of Stockbridge. [1:37:43, 1:37:47]: Correct. We could put that billet point in there. That would aunt that would address what you just mentioned. [1:37:47, 1:37:48]: Councilmember Gamer. [1:37:49, 1:37:51]: Yes. So we'll make we'll make that we'll make that note. [1:37:54, 1:38:04]: Yes, ma'am. Um any mus any mu uh I should say any musical event shall require a partnership and agreement with the city of of Stockbridge. [1:38:04, 1:38:04]: Correct. [1:38:07, 1:38:17]: So you got you guys get the they get to come before you tell you tell us exactly what they wanna do and partnership with us and what that partnership would look like. You guys get to approve those that come before you. [1:38:17, 1:38:25]: Okay. In terms of that. So that's that way it's not left up to staff to determine whether that's a good or bad partnership to get you guys get to vet it. [1:38:28, 1:38:29]: Any other comments? [1:38:29, 1:38:40]: So I was am I assuming I'm sorry, you got no comment? Yeah, I am curious about the expenses. Um, so for even the non profits that wanna do like a a play. [1:38:41, 1:38:43]: The expenses um [1:38:43, 1:38:46]: Sounds, lighting, chairs, tables. [1:38:46, 1:38:47]: Um [1:38:48, 1:38:53]: That is included in this rental agreement. [1:38:53, 1:38:55]: Bullet point. [1:38:57, 1:39:09]: Under bullet point seven, the second to the last, any cost for services provided by and incurred by the city of Stockbridge for the operations of the event must be paid. [1:39:10, 1:39:17]: So we have to do any any special consideration, lights, all of that. They gotta pay us to do it. They pay for it, not us. [1:39:18, 1:39:36]: Um so does all events require security? Yes. As well. That's in here as well. Yes, ma'am. All events require insurance. If you liability insurance. Okay, so if you turn over to page number six. [1:39:38, 1:39:42]: It lays out um the coordinated services. [1:39:46, 1:39:55]: And in there it lays out um paid details um for um public safety in there. [1:39:56, 1:39:57]: And [1:40:02, 1:40:15]: There's another provision in there that based on the number of hours with those what based on the size of the event, there's another pro portion in the con in the agre in the policy that based on the size of the event will dictate how much public safety officials you need. [1:40:15, 1:40:20]: So the larger the event, the more public safety officials you need to pay for to be at that event. [1:40:21, 1:40:24]: Well I'm seeing here, um, it says [1:40:25, 1:40:25]: Um [1:40:26, 1:40:34]: Certain services shall be provided by the city or its authorized agents, with the agent, with the applicant reimbursing the city. [1:40:36, 1:40:40]: I don't think it's a good idea for us to pay up front costs. [1:40:40, 1:40:41]: For [1:40:41, 1:40:45]: any entity that wants to rent the amphitheater. [1:40:45, 1:40:49]: It is their responsibility to provide for [1:40:49, 1:40:51]: All these services up front. [1:40:54, 1:40:54]: Agree. [1:40:57, 1:41:05]: Whether they pay a deposit that will cover the cost of janitorial concessions. [1:41:05, 1:41:06]: Security. [1:41:07, 1:41:08]: We shouldn't [1:41:09, 1:41:12]: Bear the burden of paying the cost up front. [1:41:13, 1:41:13]: That is on. [1:41:14, 1:41:17]: That's the responsibility of the person who's renting it. [1:41:17, 1:41:21]: That's just my thought. Well and and I think it it [1:41:22, 1:41:42]: Just saying, you know, that's certain certain things we'll do that for. So in essence, like with the one we just did just now, where we made the amendment for a partnership. Well in that circumstances, yes, we might do the upfront course on certain things on lighting and sound if we're in partnership and you guys agree to it, then that would meet the requirement. [1:41:42, 1:41:47]: 'Cause it it it's it's kind of open ended to allow for us to be able to look at because it says um [1:41:50, 1:41:51]: Where was that again? [1:41:54, 1:42:14]: It says um to best serve our guests and to maintain continu um integrity of the amplitude, it is the policy of the city that certain services shall be provided by the city or its authorized agent with the applicant reimbursing a city fall cost. So certain these is open to say if it's [1:42:14, 1:42:29]: It's a partnership or something to that effect, then we could look at that and say whether or not we would do those costs. Otherwise typically they'll put they'll be paying for them in reimbursing. [1:42:29, 1:42:32]: Пиказ івенфорправит івент. [1:42:32, 1:42:33]: I don't want [1:42:34, 1:42:37]: those who may be interested in renting the amphitheater. [1:42:37, 1:42:40]: To assume the city will pay for the cost of [1:42:40, 1:42:41]: Clean up and [1:42:42, 1:42:44]: Tables and chairs. On page three. [1:42:45, 1:42:49]: Page three. Yep, top page uh and top um B. [1:42:53, 1:43:13]: Says applicants shall pay for talent, sound lights, stage hands, publicity, advertisement, backstage catering, events, security, medical services, ASCAP, BMI, transportation, trash removal, equipment to include a bucket lift, portable lighting, fencing, and barricades, telephones, events, maintenance, crowd sanitation, runners, personnel and services necessary for the efficient and safe. [1:43:13, 1:43:19]: presentation of events at the amphitheater. But I guess, and I I agree with Councilwoman Barber. [1:43:19, 1:43:35]: We need to make sure it's consistent. I don't I don't think uh yeah. I think that, you know, that can be confusing. What if there's something else that needs to be added in? Why don't we include what our rental is on our side? So I would prefer to say [1:43:36, 1:43:42]: Something like your rental includes the amphitheater, everything else is on you. [1:43:43, 1:43:52]: Uh uh a coup the point that I want to make. I mean if that's what we're gonna do. That's what I'm saying. If that's what's included. If it's if we include if we're including [1:43:52, 1:44:01]: as part of their rental agreement, other additional services, fine. But it needs to be spelled out in that manner. Yes. And I think that it would be um [1:44:02, 1:44:03]: Um [1:44:03, 1:44:11]: I I think it would be advantageous for us to do it in that way because we're showing what services we provide versus what services they're responsible for. [1:44:11, 1:44:12]: I agree. [1:44:15, 1:44:35]: Sir. Go right ahead, please. The only concern that I have with that is that do we just want Fortune five hundred companies coming in or large companies? What about a small business that wants to get started? You're putting the money up front so they can pay you back through the ticket sales. If you do not do that, then you're gonna limit it to [1:44:35, 1:44:55]: deep pocketed individuals or or businesses that can come in and do this, but the small business person is gonna be cut out because they can't they don't have the upfront capital in order to do all these expenditures. They count on the money to come back on the back end. So what you're doing is uh how a business [1:44:54, 1:45:02]: Would operate, you're gonna exclude a lot of small businesses because they're not gonna have upfront capital to do what you're asking them to do. [1:45:03, 1:45:11]: I understand. Go right ahead, please. I understand that, but so then perhaps um [1:45:11, 1:45:31]: They just don't have the financial wherewithal to put on a concert if they can't bear the burden of the cost of the expenses. Well it's not just gonna be just a concert. It's gonna be a lot of these events where they're gonna need to bring in the ticket revenue to reimburse the city, otherwise they're not gonna be able to do the event. But so for some of those entities that want to host [1:45:31, 1:45:32]: Stay. [1:45:32, 1:45:34]: show concert. [1:45:35, 1:45:36]: Whatever it may be. [1:45:36, 1:45:37]: Mm-hmm. [1:45:37, 1:45:39]: Even if it's a non profit. [1:45:40, 1:45:42]: Who's not selling tickets? [1:45:43, 1:45:49]: I don't want them to assume that the city is going to bear the cost. Oh no, oh no, they w we will [1:45:49, 1:45:52]: For security, for lighting. [1:45:52, 1:46:01]: We're not going to do that. Well I'm not we want our money back. But certainly we want the money back. No, I don't want to put any money up front. [1:46:01, 1:46:21]: At all. But again, as I said, if you don't do that, you're cutting out the small business person. They're not gonna be able they don't have that type of upfront capital in order to make that happen. That would be my concern. Right, but it the language that he said it was [1:46:21, 1:46:41]: Especially it would be well read the language again that's in there. Which one you said it would be a s diff circumstances or something you said? Um and and remember even under B, um it it says shall. So there isn't a shall is a i is a action that says you there is no ambiguity with the word shall. [1:46:41, 1:46:42]: Shaw means you will. [1:46:43, 1:46:52]: It doesn't say you might have to pay f have to shall y it doesn't say applicant might pay for talent so fort lights, all of that. It says they shall pay for those. [1:46:53, 1:47:03]: um if they use it in the venue. Um as it relates to it the section ten, coordination of services, um, it says here to best serve [1:47:03, 1:47:09]: to best serve its guests and to maintain the integrity of the amphitheater ump the amphitheater facility. [1:47:10, 1:47:28]: it is the policy of the city city of Stockbridge that certain services shall be provided by the city or its authorized agent, with the applicant reimbursing the city for all costs associated with the provisions of such services. So [1:47:29, 1:47:37]: You know, that that is that allows for in a simple case there where we could do something to help that small business or whatever. [1:47:38, 1:47:42]: You know, i it it gives some some leeway of discretion, but then again [1:47:43, 1:47:48]: You know. I don't like that at all. I think it's a conflict with B. I I actually think that [1:47:49, 1:47:50]: What we would do is [1:47:51, 1:47:51]: Um [1:47:51, 1:47:52]: Councilman Alexander. [1:47:53, 1:48:03]: Sounds like they would want to be in a partnership again because I'm not willing. I haven't met there is not one venue, a ballroom or anywhere where you go and they say [1:48:04, 1:48:17]: Oh, you know what, we're gonna take care of this for you and we'll see whether or not you're gonna get some we'll we don't know if your chick what your ticket sales are and we'll get your money back. No, you don't do that. You uh never have I seen or have I rented anything. [1:48:18, 1:48:19]: And they say [1:48:20, 1:48:32]: Okay. Y you're responsible for cleanup, but I tell you what, since you don't have the money, we're gonna go ahead and clean it up and when you get your money you pay us back. No saying out of ticket sales that night. Yeah, but I'm saying you don't [1:48:33, 1:48:34]: The amphitheater. [1:48:34, 1:48:38]: To me, and this may be different for everyone else. [1:48:39, 1:48:59]: We invested twenty-five million dollars in a state of art building. Mm-hmm. I think that it deserves the class and respect and eliteness that it deserves. Now that does not mean what I'm saying is But a small business purpose should never be cut out. I'm not trying to cut out a small business person. [1:48:59, 1:49:19]: They may not need lights. They may not need sec what but if you can't afford to pay for to be cleaned up, then you don't need to be here because this is not that place. Go to the Mermanders. I'm sorry, you this is you have to have certain limits. The amphitheater is huge, it sees 3,500 people. If you can feel that [1:49:19, 1:49:32]: place with 3500 people, then you can pay for these amenity the things that are required to do it. I have you have to be strategic about it. I can't support otherwise because you look at it. [1:49:33, 1:49:33]: Here. [1:49:34, 1:49:54]: There will the nonprofit is paying twenty five hundred dollars. Mm-hmm. If they have a fundraiser, let's say they rented the green room, they had a fundraiser, or they rented out the front part up here and they twenty five hundred dollars. All they need is security. They're not having the just like that event the other day, um, with the chamber. [1:49:54, 1:50:01]: And all of the above. That's we're not gonna pay for it and then say it'll pay us back. We're not in the m business of lending money. [1:50:01, 1:50:21]: I'm not saying any of that. What I'm saying to you is that all you're doing basically you can you're eliminating the small business person. There's no nonprofit in this area gonna be able to use the amphitheater. Not one. I'm a small business. I can't afford the amphitheater right now. And guess what? It's okay. It's okay, cause I'm gonna do what I gotta do for I will [1:50:21, 1:50:32]: I would love to do that for my business, but you cannot do that. It's unreasonable. Mr. Gardner, you have something you need to answer? Ready? Let me know what you're what you guys think. So [1:50:33, 1:50:37]: First remember I think uh the the last sentence in there says services may [1:50:38, 1:50:38]: Include [1:50:39, 1:50:59]: Um but not limited to the following. So obviously if we don't want to put lighting in there, then we need to get rid of the not limited and it shall include only these services that we would would assist on, right? So lighting and sound goes out the door because those are probably the most expensive side of the house. Right? So it takes that option off the table. We can also make an amendment. [1:50:59, 1:51:06]: Where it says to the best to best service guests and to maintain the integrity of the amphitheater facilities. [1:51:07, 1:51:09]: It is the policy of the city of Stockbridge. [1:51:10, 1:51:14]: That when in partnership with a non profit entity. [1:51:14, 1:51:34]: Um, these services shall be provided by the city or its authorized agent in conjunction, I mean with the applicant reimbursing the city for all costs associated. So, once again, that's something that would come before this body to look at and approve, nothing administrative, because any partnership has [1:51:34, 1:51:41]: has to be approved by council. Pardon. So that would give you guys an opportunity to review and make the exceptions. [1:51:42, 1:51:48]: Okay. That could be for a partnership. I could get that. But what I do not it sounds like to me [1:51:48, 1:51:52]: You know, uh if you go to a hotel room and you say, Hey [1:51:53, 1:52:05]: You broke the T V. Your kids were bad. They knocked'em down. Then guess what? You're gonna have to pay that back. So that's what the clause is really supposed to say. It's not saying it correctly, but that's what it's supposed to say. [1:52:06, 1:52:10]: Um basically if you tear up something, you're gonna be responsible for it. [1:52:10, 1:52:15]: That's it. But I think that I get what you're saying in regards to I think [1:52:16, 1:52:20]: When you say, Oh, would you be responsible for paying for lighting or something of that nature? [1:52:20, 1:52:22]: I don't think you have to take out that. I think that [1:52:23, 1:52:43]: What we're saying is it only applies to the partnerships. Correct. And and that's something that's approved by this council. Okay. So that's what it takes. So that takes it wholly out of the administrative review. It comes any partnership comes to you. So they are asking for any exceptions. You guys get to look at it and say yes or no, or we could do or we can't. [1:52:43, 1:52:50]: That's fair enough. And that'll be part of the negotiation box. Alright. So otherwise you [1:52:50, 1:52:53]: You were gonna t change Mr. Gardner? [1:52:54, 1:52:56]: You can make it you're making those appropriate [1:52:59, 1:53:05]: Um that's being inserted right after this policy of the city of Stockbridge. [1:53:08, 1:53:10]: Page number six, number ten. [1:53:11, 1:53:12]: Yes, ma'am. [1:53:14, 1:53:22]: So you're making those particular changes, so Yeah, we'll make those we'll make those and go for it once adopted with those. But how many total changes have we made today? [1:53:22, 1:53:26]: Uh section ten, as amended in section ten. [1:53:34, 1:53:36]: Yeah. [1:53:37, 1:53:38]: From the oath. [1:53:46, 1:53:50]: Page five, non profit benefit events, non concert. [1:53:52, 1:53:55]: Coach number it's just a partnership. [1:53:56, 1:54:03]: Yes. And then page number five. Under non profit. That's where we made an amendment. [1:54:07, 1:54:15]: Yes. Goes there and then everything else stays the same. I want to make sure that whatever we agreed to [1:54:15, 1:54:27]: You understand, Mr. Gardner, for the change and the clerk has that properly. Cause my assumption is if that's the case, then we're gonna have a motion to accept this particular change. These changes. Is that correct? Yeah. [1:54:32, 1:54:34]: So y so there's change on page five. [1:54:35, 1:54:38]: under non under non profit benefit events. [1:54:39, 1:54:44]: And then there's a change on page number three. [1:54:48, 1:54:49]: Oh, what was that? Nope. [1:54:58, 1:55:05]: On page number six, section ten, coordination of services, exclusive services. [1:55:14, 1:55:22]: Yeah. And um Mr. Lander, um Councilmember Lander, page nine lays out the liability. [1:55:24, 1:55:26]: А стов концерн реберси. [1:55:27, 1:55:29]: The city for services. [1:55:29, 1:55:33]: Unless it's a partnership. That's that's the only time in in Vilha. [1:55:34, 1:55:51]: Okay. So we're gonna reword. Or we'll put that? Approve with notes. So then all we gotta do is change it and then update the update the website and uh print the documents. Okay. Are you asking us to approve this? Yes, ma'am. So yeah, so we can move forward. So yes, ma'am. [1:55:52, 1:55:55]: Okay. Thank you. Yes, ma'am. [1:55:56, 1:56:01]: No. No no no. I was just illustrating the the liability insurance requirements. [1:56:04, 1:56:06]: So if I got it right, it's only three changes we're making? [1:56:08, 1:56:08]: Two, sir. [1:56:09, 1:56:10]: Two. [1:56:11, 1:56:17]: All right. So we got two changes and the council is in agreement. So is there a motion on the floor to accept these changes? [1:56:19, 1:56:20]: Mayor. Yes, Mayor. [1:56:20, 1:56:24]: I move that we accept the changes with the um [1:56:25, 1:56:26]: In regards to the [1:56:26, 1:56:29]: Amphitheater con rental contract agreement. [1:56:30, 1:56:33]: To include those things that we amended. [1:56:33, 1:56:35]: One um [1:56:35, 1:56:38]: was that for non profits [1:56:38, 1:56:43]: If they want to have a concert, they would have to partner with the city of Stockbridge. [1:56:43, 1:56:47]: and all partnerships must come before Mayor and Council. For approval, [1:56:48, 1:56:50]: Okay, is there a second? [1:56:50, 1:56:52]: So [1:56:53, 1:56:53]: Um [1:56:55, 1:56:56]: So did you [1:56:57, 1:57:08]: To both of those conditions that we talked about? Yeah. Oh and all okay, that's right. And all I'm sorry, let me amend let me change that. All [1:57:08, 1:57:12]: may come all must come before any partnership. [1:57:14, 1:57:17]: must come before mayor and council for approval, [1:57:18, 1:57:22]: And that includ and and all partnerships [1:57:23, 1:57:27]: include the reimb well I don't think we have to do that because all partnerships include we don't have to do that. [1:57:28, 1:57:31]: [7051.9, 7053.8]: does not tie the city or [1:57:34, 1:57:35]: Include the city. [1:57:36, 1:57:36]: And any [1:57:37, 1:57:38]: Actions of [1:57:38, 1:57:42]: the applicant having to reimburse us for anything. [1:57:42, 1:57:48]: They should be able to pay for all those services up front. So if we could remove [1:57:48, 1:57:51]: That sentence reimbursing the city? [1:57:51, 1:58:04]: For all costs associated with such services. But that's what we had agreed upon is that it would be a partnership. But there were certain services excluding the lighting and all of that. But we need to remove [1:58:05, 1:58:25]: Well well we would add that it must be as a in order to in order for us to do something like that it have to be parts partnership. I don't know how we would change the wording, but it has to it has to state partnership and I get what you're saying, Councilman Robert. Um Do we have legal to help us? [1:58:25, 1:58:25]: That's what this. [1:58:28, 1:58:48]: We we're simply trying to help the And I I believe that uh Mr. Garner may have to come back to the podium as well to get this finalized if Mr Mr. Washington is coming forward to be responsible for upfront cost of any entity that wants use of the amphitheater. [1:58:48, 1:58:58]: I know what he said, but I'm reading this policy and I want to make sure that the language is consistent with what he's saying. Okay. [1:59:01, 1:59:07]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. I think the easiest way if you want to incorporate that comment is just to say that the city will not pay any upfront costs. [1:59:08, 1:59:09]: And then we'll reflect that in a document. [1:59:10, 1:59:11]: Thank you. Okay. [1:59:13, 1:59:14]: Is that acceptable for the rest of the council? [1:59:15, 1:59:16]: That's acceptable. [1:59:16, 1:59:20]: Okay, so uh so we know exactly where that's gonna be placed in the document? [1:59:22, 1:59:40]: And if that's the case, then I guess we need a motion to accept these particular changes. Revise the motion. My only question is we we got a spent we got an event already that we're working on that's gonna be rescheduled for next year. That includes reimbursable funds up front. So we're not gonna do the event. [1:59:41, 1:59:47]: That event needs to come back to this can be a little bit more than a little bit. [1:59:49, 1:59:50]: Well, um okay, I'm sorry. [1:59:53, 1:59:54]: So the city will not [1:59:56, 2:00:00]: The the applicant is responsible for any upfront cost. [2:00:02, 2:00:07]: unless or w unless the council approves otherwise. [2:00:09, 2:00:11]: Because it still has to come before council. [2:00:15, 2:00:25]: All right. Unless co council approves otherwise and that's for our partnerships. Uh I I'm okay with that, but in the end if there's no they're they're gonna cancel the concert if we don't. [2:00:25, 2:00:32]: But if that's the where we are. But if that's the desire of the council. It didn't Oh I d I'm not talking about that particular. That's not my desire. [2:00:32, 2:00:39]: I know, but that's that's the end result. No, I'm saying unless counsel states otherwise, we've already uh well, [2:00:42, 2:00:55]: I thought we've already had I thought th I think that's old. This is something new. This is our new policy. I think they're grandfathered in. Going forward. Right. Unless council approves it. So what I'm saying is [2:00:55, 2:01:08]: If someone needs to if they're gonna partner with us, we're gonna approve it and we may say, Okay, we got the lights, we got this, you handle this, you handle that. But otherwise w we can't that's the best way to do this, I think. [2:01:11, 2:01:14]: Mr Gardner, need you back at the podium, sir. [2:01:14, 2:01:15]: Yeah. [2:01:23, 2:01:32]: See if we can work out these details here that we're talking about. Make sure we got it proper on the document there and as as gathered by the by the uh [2:01:33, 2:01:42]: The clerk and the counsel is in agreement. Now you all had further discussion in reference to some verbiage. You gotta make sure we understand what the verbiage is and where it's going. [2:01:44, 2:01:46]: So let's let's see if we can nail this down. [2:01:50, 2:01:52]: So are we eliminating section ten? [2:01:54, 2:01:58]: 'Cause if you eliminated then you don't have any you don't have to worry about any coordinated services. [2:01:58, 2:02:00]: I would agree with that. [2:02:01, 2:02:03]: I would agree that we eliminate [2:02:03, 2:02:04]: Section ten. [2:02:05, 2:02:06]: All together. [2:02:08, 2:02:13]: What do we do about the existing agreement that we have? We just tear it up. We already have an agreement. [2:02:14, 2:02:16]: Everything at this point. [2:02:16, 2:02:18]: Going forward. [2:02:18, 2:02:20]: will fall under this policy. [2:02:20, 2:02:22]: I don't know what agreements were made. [2:02:22, 2:02:23]: with the existing [2:02:24, 2:02:24]: Even [2:02:25, 2:02:29]: It didn't come to this council. I'm talking about everything from this point. [2:02:29, 2:02:30]: Going forward. [2:02:30, 2:02:46]: The city shouldn't be paying upfront cost. But unless it's a partnership. Right. Well that's we we said it all we just made that that every event going forward is going to be a partnership. That we've agreed upon that. We're talking about a partnership. That's what we're talking about. [2:02:50, 2:03:06]: Every event going forward will be a partnership with the language uh as described to make to make sure that these uh there are some expenses that can be reimbursed, but as these as Councilwoman Gantt said, they would have to come back to us for any partnership anyway. [2:03:08, 2:03:09]: Is that correct? [2:03:10, 2:03:18]: Yes, that's correct. They have to come to us for our uh if we're having a partnership agreement, they would have to come to us and that's way we can work out the logistics of that. [2:03:18, 2:03:38]: Right. And any other events if if this if you eliminate this provision, then you don't have to worry about any other type events that come in that might say, hey, can y'all do XYZ? We say no because we don't have any requirements. Okay, let's move forward. Mayor Ford, I'd like to make a motion. Or Councilwoman Gat, your motion is still on the floor. [2:03:38, 2:03:42]: The motion that you you originally made was it seconded? Yeah. Or did you did you amend it? [2:03:43, 2:03:47]: Ms. Geth. I I amended it. Can you amend your motion? Sure. To eliminate [2:03:48, 2:03:49]: Number ten. [2:03:49, 2:03:53]: Of the policy. Okay. Look at that. [2:04:00, 2:04:00]: Okay. [2:04:03, 2:04:05]: I'm I can amend my motion to include that. [2:04:06, 2:04:07]: To eliminate that. [2:04:08, 2:04:21]: What's what's your motion now? What's your motion? So my motion now is to remove policy number ten I mean statement number ten, coordinate coordination of services, um, to add on page five [2:04:24, 2:04:33]: That under nonprofit biz benefit events, that they can they cannot be concerts, non-concerts, unless they are part of a partnership. [2:04:33, 2:04:35]: With the city of Stockbridge, [2:04:40, 2:04:41]: And [2:04:41, 2:04:53]: I think that's it. All concert any concert must be oh any partnership must be brought to Mayor and Council requ upon request. [2:04:56, 2:05:12]: So we let me ask a question on that. Uh you you gotta understand what you're asking for. If there's three hundred and sixty five days in the year and somebody wants fifty people wanna come to us, that means fifty people gotta come back to us every single time. Is that what we wanna do? [2:05:13, 2:05:21]: Fifty times. We're gonna hear fifty different events. Is that our function or is that a staff function? I think it's micromanaging, but [2:05:24, 2:05:25]: [7527.0, 7528.3]: It's micromanaging. [2:05:29, 2:05:30]: To partner. [2:05:32, 2:05:52]: Well I would think if we want to partner, you would probably want to be able to have some say so I would imagine fifty fifty times the come to us fifty times. Ms. Garner, Mr. Gardner, sir. All right. So I I guess we something y'all y'all agree. I think this would this would y'all so any musical any any musical event shall require partnership [2:05:52, 2:05:55]: the city of Stockbridge and approved by the city council. [2:05:56, 2:05:56]: Correct. [2:06:00, 2:06:03]: Fine with me. Okay, I'm good with that. [2:06:05, 2:06:09]: Motion or not. No upfront thoughts. Or do I take that out? [2:06:09, 2:06:11]: Yeah. So we eliminate the section chain. [2:06:13, 2:06:14]: Got the end. [2:06:15, 2:06:18]: Mean all all sex and ten is coming out now? Yes. [2:06:25, 2:06:27]: And it's being replaced by what exactly now? [2:06:30, 2:06:42]: So that that coordinated services goes away. The only coordinated service will be under an agreement and obviously that's controlled by the partnership under agreement. You'll need a section cover. [2:06:42, 2:07:02]: So whatever they come in for and request, you guys get to see it and improve the scope of what their request is. And if it's if their request includes some coordination, y'all get to allocate or not allow at all. It's at your discretion. [2:07:02, 2:07:05]: quick. So if we eliminate ten. [2:07:07, 2:07:12]: kinda shooting ourselves because there's certain things. [2:07:12, 2:07:16]: Um, let's say we have a vendor that does the s the cleanup. [2:07:17, 2:07:34]: You know, when when you go rent to a specific uh facility, you can only have a certain caterer. It's kinda like you can only use these caterers because we know they do a good job. Preferred caterers. Preferred caterers. It's kinda just like that. We know that these are our preferred caterers. [2:07:34, 2:07:41]: concession people or these are our preferred janitorial services because they know our amphitheater. You can't just go out there and hire [2:07:42, 2:07:42]: Whoever you want. [2:07:43, 2:07:46]: So I think that's what this clause is trying to [2:07:46, 2:07:47]: Todo. [2:07:47, 2:07:50]: Із чайна мек шо да сіді. [2:07:51, 2:07:54]: Газ де он хуйю. [2:07:56, 2:08:00]: who the who the ser who who who we use. That's what clause ten is doing. [2:08:01, 2:08:07]: Trusted contractors that we know will take care of the business. We know it's gonna take care of the business. And I'm okay with that. [2:08:08, 2:08:12]: Right, but we have preferred caters and we we should. [2:08:12, 2:08:18]: Because some people might have terrible health scores or they may have um you know [2:08:18, 2:08:22]: Just different things. And so we should have preferred. I mean, I think that's normal. [2:08:24, 2:08:35]: This is not this doesn't say anything about caterers. No, no, I'm the I'm using it as an example. But I don't I don't I don't feel comfortable with the city paying upfront cost. [2:08:35, 2:08:37]: Of any shows. [2:08:38, 2:08:40]: Unless there is a partnership. [2:08:40, 2:08:43]: That we've all agreed and negotiated. [2:08:43, 2:08:52]: Whatever the services would be provided. I don't want us to advertise it as open-ended for anyone that wants to rent the amphitheater. [2:08:52, 2:08:55]: The city will pay the upfront cost. [2:08:55, 2:08:57]: And they will reimburse us. [2:08:57, 2:09:01]: I won't agree with that. Can I just ask that we table this item? [2:09:01, 2:09:02]: Yeah. [2:09:03, 2:09:23]: It seems as though w we we have not reached an agreement. No, no, no. I agree with you on that. I see what you're saying. But I would just remove the applicant reimbursing the city. I would still want them, just remove that line. The applicant's not going to reimburse the city, but the city has the right to say these are our preferred lists. You have to have a [2:09:23, 2:09:27]: prefer a list of some sort. Yes. So I agree with you on that. [2:09:27, 2:09:29]: A all the alternatives you can do. [2:09:30, 2:09:39]: to accommodate I think and this might accommodate everybody's that in order for you to have coordinated services, that it has to be part of an agreed upon [2:09:39, 2:09:49]: partnership with with the city. So therefore that that would you keep the language in here and you just put we can put [2:09:52, 2:09:54]: Take that language out. Um [2:09:55, 2:10:07]: I mean keep the services, take the language out and say uh the city has the say these are the preferred serv the city may have a list of preferred services or whatever that you're gonna utilize. [2:10:07, 2:10:18]: that you're gonna utilize these these particular companies. So but take out the language of us reimbursing the city for all costs. They have and the other one and it conflicts with the other clauses anyway. [2:10:18, 2:10:34]: Well, and unless you change it and make it as part of an agreement, then it doesn't contradict, right?'Cause you in order for you to get these cot these services, potentially, it has to be part of a of a partnership which has to be approved by council. [2:10:34, 2:10:38]: Right, so that's the only way that these provisions would ever come into play. [2:10:38, 2:10:51]: If they don't have a contract and they're coming in as a sole person wanting to use or entity wanting to use the facility, this doesn't come into play with them because there is no contract. They're either coming in as a straight non profit or a straight for profit entity. [2:10:51, 2:10:54]: The only time this comes into play is if you have a partnership. [2:10:55, 2:11:05]: And then it allow for you guys to be able to review it as part of that contr uh part of that and say, Yes, we're in conjunction with janitorial, we're not in conjunction with parking management. [2:11:05, 2:11:15]: a la cart whichever one of those you want as part of an agreement. Uh that way I think you you you get you you you you you satisfy both sides. [2:11:17, 2:11:28]: Yes. I think Miss Ms. Barber is Boston, you stepped up to the mic, so you have something to say, sir. I was just gonna say as long as everybody's clear with the numbers that we have for Quarum Nine takes three O to pass. [2:11:28, 2:11:32]: I'm sorry, say again please. With the numbers we have here tonight, it would take three to pass. [2:11:33, 2:11:38]: Yeah, I know. And so as long as everybody knows that be clear. [2:11:39, 2:11:52]: Well do y'all wanna table it? Y'all y'all wanna if y'all wanna t if if it's the w is a council we table it, we'll make these amendments and bring it back and then if you guys will let motion the table. All right. [2:11:52, 2:11:59]: We don't have anything in front of us coming to use it at this time. There's a motion on the floor to table. Mo so move. Is there a second? [2:11:59, 2:12:10]: I saw Miss Barber's hand first. Alexander Barber, all in favor, please indicate. Oh now table. All right, we'll move on. Okay. Thank you. [2:12:11, 2:12:26]: New business council consideration to approve adopted road program agreement with James E. Lacey Lodge number six hundred to adopt Campground Road from Woodbrook Drive to Highway forty two. Mr Aaron, please. [2:12:28, 2:12:48]: Yes, good evening once again, Mayor and Council. We come before you tonight. We have a group that wants to adopt a city road for uh litter pickup and maintenance. And we're coming tonight to ask for your approval. One of the reasons we want to bring all of these before Mayor and Council is that you have a say so in who are [2:12:48, 2:13:08]: Who are adopting streets and providing maintenance in the city of Stockbridge. We'll continue to tweak this policy as necessary. This will be our second group if it's approved. The first group is Stockbridge Youth Council. And so we just want Mayor and Council to always have the final say-so and whether our group [2:13:08, 2:13:10]: group or organization gets to adopt the city role. [2:13:11, 2:13:31]: Mayor. All right. Well fantastic. I I wanna I would imagine that the council approved this, but it's great that people want to do this this bit for our roads. But anyway, council. Yes, sir. Um my knowledge. Yeah, but it's up to you, sir. Yeah, I just want to say that yes, uh I have been spok um I spoken to uh the lodge and I've spoken to uh John Bailey. [2:13:31, 2:13:51]: And then uh my neighbor Rodney Joyner. Uh they came out, uh Rodney came out and actually helped uh with the campground road, keep Stark Bridge beautiful. And that's where he said, you know, is there anybody responsible for this road? And that's where the process began at. So certainly uh that would be a good asset to the city helping us maintain so [2:13:51, 2:14:00]: I make a motion to approve. I second. Ms. Bar um Barber second uh excuse Gantt second that. All favor, please indicate. I see you now. Thank you very much. [2:14:01, 2:14:08]: Council consideration to approve the award request for proposal RFP number two zero two two dash zero zero one. [2:14:08, 2:14:09]: One [2:14:10, 2:14:30]: Water control office and lab renovation services for the city of Stockbridge to diversify construction of Georgia, incorporating an amount of five hundred ninety-one thousand two hundred ninety-four dollars. Fund source water and sewer fund balance. Mr. Aaron, please. Yes, Mr. Mayor. On June 30th, 2022, the city opened three. [2:14:30, 2:14:50]: Three bids that were received were from McWright, General Contractor and Electrical, Crown Services Contractor, and Diversified Construction of Georgia Inc. On August 16, 2022, an evaluation committee met and reviewed the different proposals, but this project will update the city's wastewater treatment plant. [2:14:49, 2:15:09]: Laboratory and offices. It hasn't had any updates since 1997. So the laboratory equipment is outdated. It has far exceeded its useful life. And also, we're going to do some improvements to the facility as well, such as restrooms, showers, and things of that sort. So we're asking mayor improve and counsel. [2:15:09, 2:15:15]: Council to approve this renovation project that is greatly needed for the wastewater treatment facility. [2:15:15, 2:15:17]: All right. Council, any questions? [2:15:18, 2:15:29]: Only question I always have is does this anticipate any future growth whereas the facility might need to be expanded or anything or long is this part of the long term plan? [2:15:30, 2:15:50]: This is for office space, so we're kind of confined to that footprint and the staff will not increase substantially, so it will be useful far into the next fifteen and twenty years as we will be renovating a former former laboratory as well to include additional spaces and storage space for staff. [2:15:51, 2:15:53]: Any other questions for the council? [2:15:54, 2:15:56]: Need a motion to accept this proposal. [2:15:57, 2:16:00]: So moved. Ms. Kent, uh so moved. The second. [2:16:03, 2:16:04]: [8164.5, 8167.4]: Mr. Howzan, I second that. Any further discussion? [2:16:07, 2:16:09]: If not, all in favor please indicate. [2:16:10, 2:16:13]: Thank you, Mr. Council, and thank you, Mr. Aaron. [2:16:14, 2:16:15]: Yes, Mr Mayor the next [2:16:16, 2:16:18]: Council consideration to approve the award. [2:16:18, 2:16:24]: Uh for the request for proposal RFP number two zero two two dash zero zero zero six. [2:16:25, 2:16:35]: On call general engineer engineering services for the city of Stockbridge to Falcon Design Consultants, LLC, and Carter and Sloop Consulting Engineers. Mr. Aaron, please. [2:16:35, 2:16:55]: Yes, Mr. Mayor, before we explain, uh Carter and Sloop will be removed for consideration tonight because they only got their agreement this morning. They didn't have time to review it. So they'll be on an upcoming meeting. But we're asking uh mayor and council to approve awarding the on one of the on-call engineering firms to [2:16:55, 2:17:15]: Falcon Design. Falcon Design has done a lot of work for the city. They currently have 15 projects in various stages that they're working on for the city. It has been a very beneficial relationship for the city and some of the projects we've done over the years. And I just ask that mayor and council approve awarded an on-call engineering. [2:17:15, 2:17:20]: engineering bid to Falcon Design Consultants. Mayor. Yes, ma'am. Go ahead, please. [2:17:20, 2:17:33]: I move that we approve um and award our RFP request for proposal on call general engineering services to Falcon Design Consultant. Sir. Okay. Further discussion. Yes, ma'am. [2:17:36, 2:17:48]: And to remove Carter and Sloop off of the um oh off of this motion. Do we need another second to that? Second. Okay. Mr. Alzheimer's second that thank you, Ms. Clerk. And uh Ms uh Barber, go ahead please. [2:17:51, 2:17:51]: Um [2:17:53, 2:17:55]: I wanted to ask Mr [2:17:56, 2:18:00]: Aaron, so I'm not sure exactly when, but the council approved [2:18:01, 2:18:03]: Changes to our procurement процесс. [2:18:04, 2:18:07]: It requires at a minimum of five [2:18:07, 2:18:10]: um members of the evaluation committee. [2:18:10, 2:18:11]: I noticed that. [2:18:12, 2:18:13]: Item ten. [2:18:14, 2:18:17]: There were five members of the evaluation committee. [2:18:18, 2:18:19]: For item ten. [2:18:19, 2:18:21]: On August sixteenth. [2:18:22, 2:18:24]: But item eleven on the agenda. [2:18:24, 2:18:26]: There's only three members. [2:18:26, 2:18:28]: Of the evaluation committee. [2:18:30, 2:18:31]: For the engineer. [2:18:32, 2:18:32]: Yes. [2:18:33, 2:18:40]: Why is that? It was my understanding that they had five members. Procurement, I submit a list of [2:18:40, 2:18:42]: candidates to procurement. [2:18:42, 2:18:49]: For the committee and and they're the ones that put together the committee. They ask me for names and I submit names. I see four. [2:18:49, 2:18:54]: I'm going to abstain from voting on this one for now. [2:18:54, 2:18:56]: Can't pay us without three. [2:18:57, 2:18:58]: No, no, I can't. [2:19:00, 2:19:10]: All right, so anyway, the motion was made in the second, right? So let's take the count here. All in favor of motion, please indicate. Ma Mayor. Yes, ma'am. Okay, go ahead. [2:19:11, 2:19:23]: Uh, Councilman Barber, can you explain to me what you're saying was done what what you are needing information on or what happened?'Cause I'm not quite I heard you say something about five. [2:19:23, 2:19:30]: But you mean five bids or five what exactly five members of the evaluation committee? Mm-hmm. Um [2:19:31, 2:19:32]: So for item ten. [2:19:32, 2:19:34]: There were five members. [2:19:35, 2:19:36]: I can't remember exactly. [2:19:37, 2:19:38]: Ms. Holliday, do you remember [2:19:39, 2:19:42]: Um the time frame in which the council approved. [2:19:42, 2:19:44]: Those revisions to our procurement. [2:19:45, 2:19:46]: Processes. [2:19:46, 2:19:47]: That requires [2:19:48, 2:19:49]: A minimum of five [2:19:50, 2:19:53]: members of the evaluation committee. Do you remember when we did that? [2:19:55, 2:20:03]: I can tell you it was June, but whether or not it was the council member meeting in June or the work session, but it was approved in June of twenty twenty two. [2:20:04, 2:20:06]: Okay. Mr. Gardner. [2:20:12, 2:20:17]: I just want to make sure that we are consistent in what we're doing. Um [2:20:18, 2:20:23]: The item ten, there were five members of the evaluation committee. [2:20:24, 2:20:26]: But this item, item eleven. [2:20:26, 2:20:28]: For the on call service. [2:20:29, 2:20:30]: There is only three. [2:20:31, 2:20:32]: Three members. [2:20:33, 2:20:34]: of the evaluation committee. [2:20:34, 2:20:36]: Can you explain that? Why? [2:20:37, 2:20:47]: Okay. Cannot I know I don't know why it's only three uh I can find out but right now for the sake of us moving this forward, I'm going to approve it. [2:20:47, 2:20:48]: This time. [2:20:48, 2:20:49]: But please. [2:20:50, 2:20:53]: Will you please make sure that staff is consistent? [2:20:53, 2:21:06]: in what they're doing with their processes in procurement. Yes, ma'am. With only having because this council approved revisions to the processes. I just want us to be consistent. Understood. That's all. Thank you. Thank you. [2:21:07, 2:21:22]: All right, so it's there's a motion on the floor to accept this proposal for um Falcon Design and and uh Carter Sloop is not uh going to uh at this time is not going to be on this uh acceptance for this uh going forward, is my understanding. [2:21:24, 2:21:32]: And it's been seconded by Mr. Alexander. Motion by my my Ms. Gantt. So all in favor of motion, please indicate. All right, so it m now passes three zero. Thank you. [2:21:34, 2:21:54]: Council consideration to approve the purchase of a Calipillar in Inc. Model 289 D3 compact track loader skid steer under Georgia statewide contract number 99999-001. That's SPD00000. [2:21:54, 2:22:14]: With uh Yancey Brothers incorporated an amount of$131,787. Funding source is the Water and Sewer Department budget budgeted funds. Mr. Aaron, please. Yes, Mr. Mayor. The Water and Sewer Department uh budgeted for the purchase of a skid steer. [2:22:14, 2:22:34]: That would be used to clear water and sewer easements. It'll have a mulching attachment so that they can cut down trees and limbs and things of that sort. Previously, in the past, when we've had something, a large-scale project, we've had to bid it out. We just completed a project and we spent over$40,000. So if we get to the [2:22:34, 2:22:54]: point we can do it in-house we'll be able to recognize the savings also the skid steer can be used for other activities within the water and sewer department and public works as well so these are budgeted funds and we're just asking that council approve this purchase so that we can do some maintenance work on our own and not rely on contractors to do [2:22:54, 2:22:55]: Do it. [2:22:55, 2:23:00]: Uh thank you, sir. Councillor questions for Mr. Aaron. If not, I need a motion. [2:23:02, 2:23:03]: To accept his proposal. [2:23:03, 2:23:23]: Mayor, I move that we um accept the proposal that um Mr. Aaron just mentioned here. Okay, Ms. Gantt, is there a second? Second. Okay, Ms. Barber second. Ms. Barber second. Any further discussion? All in favor, please indicate. All right, fantastic. Pass three zero. Thank you, sir. Thank you, council. Okay. Council consideration. [2:23:23, 2:23:43]: To amend FY 2023 El Meg list to remove North Bridge Drive and replace it with Burke Street and the portion of Davis Road that was impacted by the Burke Street sewer project. Mr. Aaron, please. Yes, Mr. Mayor. In the next coming years, the city will be having a sewer project on North Bridge Drive that will [2:23:43, 2:24:03]: Will require us to make some road cuts. So we don't want to resurface the road and then two years later we go back and make some cuts to it. And while we when we did the sewer project on Burke Street and Davis Street, we had to excavate the center of the road, so we just patched it. And so we want to switch uh North Bridge with Davis Road and [2:24:03, 2:24:23]: Uh Burt Street so that we downtown maintain that clean, pristine image. You know, you don't want people coming through the downtown area wondering why that big patch is down the center of the road. And also by switching these roads, Birch Street was scheduled to be resurfaced in the next couple of years. We're gonna realize a savings of three thousand dollars by removing North. [2:24:23, 2:24:26]: Bridge Drive and adding Burke Street and Davis Road. [2:24:27, 2:24:29]: Good deal. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Councillor questions. [2:24:31, 2:24:32]: Okay, I need a motion. [2:24:33, 2:24:45]: So moving. I second. All right. Miss Alexander to Miss Gantt. All in favor, please indicate. Fantastic. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Council. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Miss Mayor and Council. For this project. Your motor. [2:24:46, 2:24:55]: Council consideration to authorize a city manager or his designee to apply for and receive US Department of Transportation Reconnecting Communities Pilot Grant Program. [2:24:56, 2:25:00]: The grant is to support the planning activities and preliminary engineering of constructing [2:25:00, 2:25:02]: І подъестрін бридж алонсайд. [2:25:02, 2:25:06]: The Martin Luther King Senior Bridge for a total project cost of two hundred [2:25:07, 2:25:10]: Five thousand two hundred and thir uh thirty nine dollars and ten cents. [2:25:10, 2:25:22]: Funding source uh federal share one hundred and sixty four thousand one ninety one and twenty eight cents and the city cost share forty one thousand forty seven dollars and eighty two cents. The cost share [2:25:22, 2:25:33]: will be allocated from T S PLOS. It says presented by oh Kelly Kelly Kelly Russell. Fantastic. Good to see you, ma'am. Good to see you too there. Good evening, Council. [2:25:33, 2:25:45]: Um, I'm Kelly Russell, the city admit I mean I'm sorry, the grants administrator for the city. And what you have before you is the um approval, the request for approval for the city manager to submit an application. [2:25:45, 2:25:48]: for the um infrastructure grant. [2:25:48, 2:25:51]: Фонд байда ЮС департ о транспорте. [2:25:51, 2:26:02]: This grant will allow the city to position itself, do the legwork to position itself to apply for then construction costs for us to build the pedestrian bridge alongside the Martin Luther King. [2:26:02, 2:26:04]: Senior um [2:26:04, 2:26:05]: Memorial Bridge. [2:26:06, 2:26:09]: And so we're requesting your approval to have for us to submit the application. [2:26:10, 2:26:22]: Okay, fantastic. Now you said besides, but it's really gonna is it really gonna be connected? It'll be connected to the bridge, right? It's not when you say bes by the side, you're not gonna have any type of gap between a bridge and this pedestrian piece. [2:26:22, 2:26:36]: Um so you all had a and um approved a R S V P plan in twenty and eighteen. Right. And option three sort of illustrated what that project would look like, and I believe it is uh Jason or [2:26:37, 2:26:39]: It may be its own structure. [2:26:40, 2:26:47]: Um, and I would like to defer to Mr. Aaron to provide some additional details on the project on the level. All right, fantastic. [2:26:52, 2:26:52]: Oh fuck. [2:26:55, 2:27:06]: Yes, the uh pedestrian bridge it will be a separate structure because G Dot would not allow us to connect directly to the bridge, so it'll be its own structure that spans the railroad tracks. [2:27:06, 2:27:26]: All right. And you have any idea uh the curiosity question, any idea what this uh uh the difference, uh the space difference, how many feet or yards difference from the between the two? Well, we hadn't gotten that far yet with the actual design. We're just trying to uh seek approval so that we can move forward with it. But I know that there was eight hundred thousand dollars. [2:27:26, 2:27:36]: dollars allocated in T splas for that pedestrian bridge. And if you remember if you go to Peachtree City is you're going over [2:27:36, 2:27:43]: It's kinda probably be similar to that pedestrian bridge that goes along Highway fifty five. Uh-huh. It goes over [2:27:43, 2:28:03]: I think it's a railroad track, I'm not too sure. But that bridge it'll look similar. Well we hoping it'll look similar to that in design. Okay. Characteristic, but how far we won't know until we go to get the study approved and it'll tell us what's the best. Yeah, it's just a curiosity question. I was just wondering. Anyway, council, again, questions? Yes. Well, this uh total application include lighting. [2:28:03, 2:28:21]: And there are all the accessories to go with the bridge, intense as uh lighting should be incorporated in in the request, I would think. Well the the application is to develop the study and the report that will identify the needs for lighting, utilities and things of that nature to construct the bridge. [2:28:23, 2:28:24]: Okay. [2:28:26, 2:28:46]: This this just gives this allow for us to get the federal funding to actually do the study. Okay. Once they once they complete the study, that part of that would be obviously what the design characteristics would look like. Cause I know there's one that has the words stockbridge written over it and lights. Mm-hmm. So you know, we don't know if they'll [2:28:46, 2:28:57]: We'll approve that but definitely we'll know once we finish the study what the concepts will look like and then which one we will actually send to the FedS for for funding for construction. [2:28:57, 2:29:10]: All right. Okay. Any other any other questions? Council. Need a motion to accept this, please. So moved. Okay, Ms. Gantt and Miss Barber. Ms. Gantt and Miss Barber, any further questions? If not, all in favor, please indicate. Thank you very much. Thank you, Kelly. Appreciate it. [2:29:12, 2:29:19]: Council consideration to approve the job description for police lieutenant and administrative manager position. Presented by Chief Trammer, please. [2:29:20, 2:29:23]: Good evening, Chief. Good evening, Mayor and Council. Good evening. [2:29:24, 2:29:44]: Uh this is actually uh we've had some an opportunity obviously um operating over the last several months to evaluate our operations to look at uh operational efficiencies and how we can be more effective. Uh currently we have twelve supervisory positions throughout the department. Those are all hourly positions because we [2:29:44, 2:29:50]: work twelve hour shifts. Uh we don't work a standard two thousand and eighty hour um a year. [2:29:50, 2:30:10]: Uh cycle. The officers or the supervisors in this case actually work 2,184 hours. So there's 104 hours of administratively uncontrollable overtime that's built into those positions. And in looking at the way that we're aligned, uh we are anticipating absorbing code enforcement after the first of the year, so we need to build in a mechanism for. [2:30:10, 2:30:30]: For oversight there. And then, furthermore, to allow for the growth and development of our personnel and to provide for succession planning, we'd like to create a police lieutenant's position. We're not asking to add any additional positions to the organizational structure. We're still remaining at 58 full-time employees, but we would be reclassifying those positions. Those positions would be [2:30:30, 2:30:49]: be converted from hourly positions to exempt positions. And by virtue of doing that, we actually would realize a cost savings of about$10,000, nearly$2,000 per position by converting those positions again to exempt positions. That's what we're asking the council to approve this evening. Thanks, Chief. Any questions for [2:30:50, 2:30:53]: Chief Tremor, no Yes, this agenda item [2:30:53, 2:30:55]: The background says that [2:30:56, 2:30:58]: Stockbridge Police Department is requesting to add [2:30:59, 2:31:01]: A police lieutenant position. [2:31:03, 2:31:06]: That's the position, not not the actual [2:31:07, 2:31:09]: not additional positions is to add the [2:31:10, 2:31:11]: Perhaps it wasn't worded um [2:31:13, 2:31:18]: Right. So it's to prove the job description for i is what I have on here. Maybe there's a [2:31:22, 2:31:34]: Okay. So you're saying we're saving ten thousand by making the making these positions exist. Ex as salary instead of hourly. Correct. Okay. And currently [2:31:36, 2:31:40]: But the hourly positions still have health care and all the other benefits, correct? [2:31:40, 2:31:45]: Correct. Okay. And nothing would change as it relates to the benefits associated with those positions. Okay. [2:31:45, 2:31:45]: All right. [2:31:47, 2:31:49]: Yeah, questions, if not, I need a motion. [2:31:50, 2:32:02]: So move. Mr. Alexander. I second. Okay, Miss Gantt. All in favor, please indicate. Fantastic. Thank you, Chief. Thank you. All right. We're passed three zero. All right, so uh items. [2:32:03, 2:32:12]: Sixteen, seventeen, eighteen of be uh be next month. So we'll now move on to matter of fact, uh next item is Mr. Alexander. [2:32:13, 2:32:15]: You would ask to add something item to the agenda. [2:32:16, 2:32:32]: Yes, I just wanted to make sure that I was following proper protocol and getting approval for the usage of the amphitheater for the town hall be concerning public safety. Uh the sheriff has agreed to come and several other individuals. I'd like to make a motion for approval for that. [2:32:32, 2:32:52]: I second. Okay. All favor, please indicate. Now let me tag on to this as well. You know, maybe I did maybe I missed something here. I had I also I'm in I'm actually in partnership with uh Miss Shaw in reference to her funding pitch, which was on the twenty sixth. I probably should have came to the council and asked for permission for that as well. [2:32:52, 2:32:59]: Shame off shame on me for that. So that made me think about that when you brought this up, Mr. Alexander, and then Miss Shaw was here tonight. [2:32:59, 2:33:05]: Uh so I know I didn't add this on, I guess in a sense of thinking, but I'm I I probably should have asked that. So [2:33:05, 2:33:25]: I don't know how we go about adding it. This amended w let's uh make a request to amend the agenda to add the item uh described by the mayor for the funding pitch and use of the amphitheater. Yeah, right. No, it's but not the amphitheatre. It's mural manners. I didn't think we I thought we had a rule on that already. Well, that's why automatically approve those. [2:33:25, 2:33:27]: I thought we were still requesting. Yeah. [2:33:28, 2:33:31]: Are we still requesting those, uh Miss Holliday? [2:33:32, 2:33:34]: Do we still request for the murmuranders? [2:33:35, 2:33:36]: Do we still vote for that? [2:33:38, 2:33:39]: Right. [2:33:40, 2:33:54]: Okay, the Merlman is a different man, it's not the amphitheater. Okay, okay, okay. So I'm I'm all right then. All right. I'll just you made me think about am I doing something not quite right here? Mayor, we can check it and and just simply ratify it if that's the case. [2:33:54, 2:34:05]: Okay. All right. So we'll move on. Okay. Uh okay. So what we have next is lost. Um uh the resolution for lost. Uh Ms Mr. Washington. [2:34:06, 2:34:07]: Mr Washington. [2:34:09, 2:34:15]: Uh John, please retrieve our attorney please. [2:34:29, 2:34:32]: As we take a mild little break here. [2:34:45, 2:34:54]: Yeah, we'll just have air conditioning off. Mm-hmm. I know. Council Alexander, in your [2:34:55, 2:34:59]: made the request, I believe you said October twenty eighth, but you made the twenty seventh, correct? [2:35:01, 2:35:05]: It's a Thursday. The twenty seventh, that's right. [2:35:06, 2:35:26]: That's correct. 27th of the Mr. Washington, loss, the resolution for loss, sir, please. Yes. So Mayor and Council, we've been having spirited discussions with our Henry County and our the city counterparts about the loss negotiations. And we're currently at a standstill, and we may be going to um an arbitration of which the county [2:35:26, 2:35:46]: Has not agreed to attend yet. What we're asking for in all of the counties, this all of this went through McDonough and it's coming around to the other cities as well. We're asking to sign off on this resolution saying that we at least want and our citizens would support the split that we had from 10 years ago, which we [2:35:46, 2:36:06]: Was the 6634. We're asking that Mayor Ford go to the October 18th meeting. And if you all want to come as well, you are welcome to speak out on behalf of the disastrous consequences if we do not reach a decision on lost, and also if we do not get a split that would still benefit. [2:36:06, 2:36:26]: Us. Lost gives us, as you note from Mr. Gardner's presentation, roughly five to six million dollars a year. That is predicated upon the split that we have from 10 years ago, which the county is in opposition to. And so I mean Ford can tell you, and we can as well, that we've not been able to reach any. [2:36:26, 2:36:46]: Anything close to that. And we're still working really hard to try to get them to come to the table, but part of it is going to require some level of public support and public pressure that we place on them. And so this resolution will be a part of that piece in that strategy. Thank you, Mr. Washington. I appreciate it. And we need appreciate you all the efforts you're doing here. [2:36:46, 2:37:06]: Anyway, council. Questions and concerns if questions for Mr. Washington at this point, if not, just need a motion to accept this. And I I think uh certain of our I think it would be helpful if the city manager would come to propony and uh let I mean this is a public meeting. Yes it is sir, no problem. [2:37:06, 2:37:10]: Yeah, I got you. Mr. Gardner? Mr. Gardner. [2:37:15, 2:37:35]: Can you further further explain how critical this is issue is in reference to the loss and the the negotiations and the fact that uh we have not come to a viable resolution between the cities are all in agreement, but not a viable resolution with the county, how serious this is and what we're gonna do in the sense of hopefully approving this resolution here. If you can explain any further in reference to clarification. [2:37:35, 2:37:48]: for the public's awareness of what's going on. Yes. So uh as I mentioned, every every ten years um under law we're required to negotiate with Henry County [2:37:48, 2:37:50]: All the municipalities, Stockbridge, [2:37:51, 2:37:53]: McDonough, Locus Grove and Hampton. [2:37:54, 2:37:55]: Of two [2:37:56, 2:38:16]: negotiate this share of the local option sales tax or sales tax as we know it, right? Um over the last 10 years. Um it was agreed upon back into 2013, 2012, going into 2013, and that split was 66 [2:38:16, 2:38:20]: With the county getting sixty six percent. [2:38:20, 2:38:23]: Thirty four percent come to the cities, the cities then split. [2:38:24, 2:38:25]: That thirty four percent. [2:38:26, 2:38:27]: Between us. [2:38:27, 2:38:29]: Um it wasn't a [2:38:29, 2:38:31]: population base split back then. [2:38:32, 2:38:34]: Биказ атаку [2:38:34, 2:38:37]: The city of Hampton had not grown but [2:38:37, 2:38:51]: a lot and so the city of Stockbridge and the city of McDonough gave a percentage of their sales tax to the city of Hampton to make them hold back in twenty thirteen for twenty thirteen. [2:38:51, 2:38:52]: Um [2:38:53, 2:38:56]: This year the county came in with a recommendation [2:38:56, 2:38:58]: They they get eighty percent. [2:38:58, 2:39:02]: And the cities get a split of only twenty percent. [2:39:03, 2:39:05]: That was their first initial stance. [2:39:05, 2:39:06]: We the city. [2:39:07, 2:39:09]: Путфорд а терд апроч. [2:39:09, 2:39:11]: Чула County saying, Hey. [2:39:12, 2:39:15]: We understand that all of our communities are growing, respectively. [2:39:15, 2:39:20]: But we think and based on the eight criteria's that are listed under the law. [2:39:21, 2:39:23]: But the law is not direct. [2:39:24, 2:39:30]: It has vagueness in it and according to our former state representative, mister Andy Welsh. [2:39:30, 2:39:32]: The legislature has not saw a fit. [2:39:33, 2:39:37]: to make any amendments to do away with this ambiguity. [2:39:37, 2:39:38]: or vagueness in the law. [2:39:39, 2:39:42]: So hence we are stuck with [2:39:42, 2:39:56]: These are the criteria you should review versus those eight criteria that you shall use. And that's where the the rubber hits the road, the difference between should and shall. [2:39:57, 2:39:58]: Um [2:39:58, 2:39:59]: And so the county [2:40:00, 2:40:05]: came back to us. We met, I think, three times with the county, the last time being [2:40:05, 2:40:10]: Last week Wednesday, um the city manag the county manager called a meeting of the managers and the attorneys. [2:40:11, 2:40:13]: Um and [2:40:13, 2:40:16]: Pretty much came up with a teared approach. [2:40:16, 2:40:19]: That as I outlined to you guys in my memo. [2:40:19, 2:40:20]: To you. [2:40:20, 2:40:28]: Whereby at the end of this tenure period or the last four years of this tenure period, they will get somewhere around seventy-three percent. [2:40:28, 2:40:31]: of the lost and the cities would get [2:40:31, 2:40:35]: Twenty seven or twenty six or twenty eight, somewhere around there. [2:40:35, 2:40:37]: What that does to us. [2:40:37, 2:40:38]: Is that percentage? [2:40:39, 2:40:47]: Affects the amount it comes to the city. And as the city is currently configured, sales tax is our biggest form of income. [2:40:48, 2:40:54]: that we provide all of our general services by to include police services, right? [2:40:54, 2:40:58]: So right now we're at about five point one [2:40:59, 2:41:04]: A few years ago was five point nine and that was just based on sales activities going on. [2:41:05, 2:41:07]: We're in an environment right now where we're [2:41:07, 2:41:13]: hot on the tails of not just being inflation, but now recessionary times. [2:41:13, 2:41:14]: Right. [2:41:15, 2:41:18]: Вічкан афект сел так, аз но. [2:41:18, 2:41:27]: Right. Um hence you saw the difference in the us taking a a a real mild mild-minded approach to our sales tax revenue. [2:41:27, 2:41:30]: But if those numbers fall under [2:41:30, 2:41:50]: The five million that we've been collecting over the last six or seven years under the agreement, that affects what services we can provide and will have potentially have to cut as a local government. And those services are enumerated under our general fund, which are public safety, police, public works. [2:41:50, 2:42:05]: Right. Um administration, city clerk, government body, those entities that are funded with those with those tax with those tax dollars, those sales tax dollars. So that's the that's the ill effect of what can happen. Um [2:42:05, 2:42:24]: I think obviously from what I mentioned in my memo to you guys, you know the way we perceive is that we would like for the county to go into arbitration with us. Um in twenty twelve there was a arbitration clause to allow for us to go to what was known back then as baseball arbitration. [2:42:25, 2:42:28]: Ам да вас дім унконститучно бада Джорджа Супрім Корт. [2:42:29, 2:42:41]: Hands kicked out, so now we're stuck with the situation where we are, where we just get a mediator, but we can call for arbitration, which we our goal is to do so if the county doesn't wish to attend. [2:42:41, 2:42:42]: We'll attend in earnest. [2:42:43, 2:42:52]: And we'll have that frank discussion amongst the cities and everybody will know that the county is putting itself in a tenable untenable situation. Now, under the law [2:42:54, 2:42:57]: We have until December thirty first in which to come to an agreement. [2:42:58, 2:43:00]: If there is no agreement [2:43:01, 2:43:02]: At midnight. [2:43:02, 2:43:04]: December thirty first. [2:43:05, 2:43:07]: Loss goes away for everybody. [2:43:08, 2:43:10]: And the only way it comes back. [2:43:10, 2:43:12]: Is for there to be put on [2:43:12, 2:43:14]: A referendum on the ballot. [2:43:15, 2:43:17]: At the next election cycle. [2:43:17, 2:43:20]: Um, for to come back. [2:43:20, 2:43:25]: And if the voters don't approve it, we have lost loss. As you know, once you [2:43:25, 2:43:29]: Give someone something and you take it back is how to get it back. [2:43:29, 2:43:38]: Um so that would be the ill effects if we can't get to an agreement with the county by December thirty-first that loss goes away for everyone. [2:43:39, 2:43:45]: Well that's Yeah go ahead, sir. [2:43:45, 2:43:49]: Yes. But but here's here's the catch. There's a kicker in this. They told me they don't care. [2:43:50, 2:43:51]: [9832.8, 9838.3]: The counties the county in and of itself can can call for a host. [2:43:58, 2:44:01]: Which the Cab County currently operates under. [2:44:02, 2:44:02]: Right. [2:44:03, 2:44:09]: Um they can do that. And if that's approved, they're the only ones to get that. The cities don't get a share in host. [2:44:10, 2:44:15]: Right, and that's a big issue with what's happening in the Cap county and one or two other counties that actually did this. [2:44:15, 2:44:17]: Um, some years ago. [2:44:17, 2:44:37]: But if they did that, then that it had to go back on a referendum and they would lose the money uh initially and they would have to raise taxes tremendously to cover their shortfall. So the property tax owners would be looking at a tremendous spike to cover this, which basically is being covered now by a one-cent sales tax. [2:44:37, 2:44:42]: Tax and the property tax owners should understand they're the ones that are gonna be soaked, right? [2:44:43, 2:44:51]: Yeah. At some point the county will like all of us will have to dig into reserves and at some point someone is gonna shout, Uncle [2:44:51, 2:44:53]: Because somebody's gonna run out of money first. [2:44:53, 2:44:56]: Um and at that point, um [2:44:56, 2:44:58]: That's who will be the loser. [2:44:59, 2:45:04]: And you know, the ones with the highest swim violence are the ones that'll take the longest before they scream. [2:45:05, 2:45:05]: Right. [2:45:06, 2:45:12]: Oh Ms. Gann, go ahead, please. Um let me say this. Um [2:45:13, 2:45:22]: I was personally told that the county will not go to arbitration. I was personally told that they don't care if we all lose money. [2:45:23, 2:45:31]: I'm very offended by that and I think that's poor leadership. And I am not gonna be bullied or held my feet to the fire. [2:45:32, 2:45:37]: For because this is for all of Henry County. We should always be about Henry County. [2:45:38, 2:45:48]: In general, in general, the entire county. How selfish are we? We already lost money with splost. How selfish? The population has increased. [2:45:50, 2:46:02]: Population has increased in the city. In all cities. And what I what I my biggest concern about this is, it is from my understanding that the numbers that the county and I want people to know this. [2:46:03, 2:46:04]: Because [2:46:05, 2:46:08]: For some reason, the coun county commissioners [2:46:08, 2:46:15]: And and please, uh you know, some of them are my friends, but for some reason, when they get in those positions, [2:46:16, 2:46:18]: Mayor and council [2:46:19, 2:46:33]: They forget that we still have to vote for them. They still represent the cities. They still have a part of that city. However, when they fund things, when they want to do their roles, oh it's not their role. This this is unincorporated. [2:46:33, 2:46:38]: But now you wanna include us in your percentage. [2:46:38, 2:46:43]: So their eighty percent included the city limits of Stockbridge. Then they give us the other [2:46:43, 2:46:45]: Half of that percentage. [2:46:45, 2:46:47]: And then tell us [2:46:47, 2:46:57]: Hey, we want you to join with us and put your money back in. Well, you've got money back in. You got your taxes, you've done all kind of stuff, your millage rates, and then you turn around. [2:46:57, 2:46:59]: And try to rape us. [2:47:00, 2:47:02]: In the rest of the cities, and it's not gonna work. [2:47:03, 2:47:04]: It's wrong. [2:47:05, 2:47:07]: You're double dipping. You're triple dipping. [2:47:07, 2:47:10]: You wanna include us in your population. [2:47:12, 2:47:15]: And then you wanna give us a little percentage. [2:47:15, 2:47:20]: And then you want to turn around and say, hey, we want you to join with us and pay for this project. [2:47:21, 2:47:22]: That's not gonna happen. [2:47:23, 2:47:26]: And I hope that we all stand firm with that. [2:47:27, 2:47:28]: And anybody. [2:47:29, 2:47:35]: Who goes around and say, oh well, we don't care, we'll just not go to arbitration, should not be in office. [2:47:37, 2:47:51]: It's gonna take some city council members to run for these positions in the county and be fair for the both the unincorporated and incorporated. I don't care who you are. I'm fed up. This is nine years and counting. [2:47:52, 2:48:10]: This is supposed to be about making Henry County great. The vision of the technology area, the medical area, the area where they have logistics, the area where they have um the retail and the shopping and the food. We're supposed to be working together, but instead. [2:48:11, 2:48:13]: We're fighting for what we deserve. [2:48:14, 2:48:15]: And it is dead wrong. [2:48:16, 2:48:16]: Correct. [2:48:17, 2:48:17]: And so [2:48:19, 2:48:20]: They don't want to go to arbitration. [2:48:21, 2:48:26]: Then let's get some city council members to run for their positions because they're gonna lose. [2:48:26, 2:48:28]: out on the entire county. [2:48:29, 2:48:35]: It's gonna take people who care about both the city limits and unincorporated, people who are fair. [2:48:36, 2:48:47]: Because right now that's not what's going on and I'm tired of it. This is the most selfish asinine thing I've ever heard of in my life. And I quote, I hope the AJ C and the Himmer Herald is listening. [2:48:49, 2:48:50]: That's all. [2:48:50, 2:48:53]: Thank you, ma'am. Okay, appreciate that. Uh Miss Barber, please. [2:48:54, 2:49:00]: Um I'm very disappointed. Disappointed that they don't even want to [2:49:01, 2:49:03]: meet or go through arbitration. [2:49:04, 2:49:05]: At all. [2:49:06, 2:49:07]: I know this is politics and all. [2:49:08, 2:49:09]: But they are people. [2:49:10, 2:49:12]: People involved. [2:49:13, 2:49:15]: All of us will be affected by it. [2:49:16, 2:49:17]: Every city [2:49:18, 2:49:23]: Are we are we the only city that's um passing a resolution? [2:49:23, 2:49:43]: No, they all are. The first one that did it, they did it last night in McDonough. Then we're up next and Hampton's also at a retreat. They're going to do it so all four of the cities are doing it. Yes, ma'am. This is a coordinated effort by all four of the cities. And our goal is to stick together as municipalities here in the city to get what we [2:49:43, 2:49:53]: deserve, not just what we think we deserve, but what is outlined under the law, under those eight characteristics that they should be looking at to distribute the sales tax. [2:49:54, 2:50:05]: Wow. And so that's why we're going to have when if when you all approve this what happened to the report and if you all wanna come as well, that will be presented to them at their October eighteenth meeting. [2:50:06, 2:50:09]: Thank you. Mr. Alison, do you hear any comments, sir? [2:50:09, 2:50:20]: Uh uh no, I mean mine initially I'm I concur with my colleagues and this is just a a terrible situation. It needs to be rectified and uh everybody needs to be gave it comfort. [2:50:20, 2:50:40]: So do we need a motion for this? Well well actually for the resolution we do, but I'm gonna say this as well. I've I've I responded to you all in a email uh pretty a couple of days or so ago and so you have my thoughts on that, but just to publicly announce the fact that I'm glad the city's just sticking together on this aspect that we we we've we fight together uh in in this aspect here. [2:50:40, 2:51:00]: And uh it is unheard of and so we we have to go to arbitration. We need to pull uh push the button and keep moving on this'cause I'm not happy about this either. It's it's does it's not proper, not right in this aspect. But uh I look forward to uh further dialogue and for us to at the four cities to the continue to move in one direction to to do to what [2:51:00, 2:51:15]: What's right for our citizens, period. On that note, I I need a motion to accept this, please. So move. Is there a second? Ms. Barber second then. All favor, please indicate. Fantastic. Thank you very much. Thank you. Gentlemen, great. Okay, I'll go on uh [2:51:16, 2:51:36]: With announcements and accompanying meetings and events. Main Street Advisory Board meeting second Friday of each month, 9 a.m. City Hall Levi Meeting Room, October 14th. Downtown Development Authority meeting 6 p.m. by way of Zoom, third Tuesday of each month is October 18th. U Council Advisory Committee meeting 6:30, 30. [2:51:36, 2:51:56]: Third Tuesday of each month in Levi Meeting Room City Hall October 18th. City Council Work Session meeting Tuesday, 6 p.m. City Hall, Council Chambers, October 25th. Planning Commission meeting fourth Thursday of each uh fourth Thursday of each month, 6:30 p.m. City Hall, Council Chambers, October 27th. City Council meeting [2:51:56, 2:52:16]: Meeting second Monday of each month, City Hall Council Chambers, November 14th. U Council meeting 6:30, second Monday of each month. City Hall Levi Meeting Room and it's October, uh, excuse me, November 14th. Uh continuous uh salute to veterans, please forward pictures of veterans to include name, branch, rank, and years. [2:52:15, 2:52:35]: The service of Mayor Pro Tem Thomas presents a special tribute to our local veterans. The pictures will be submitted to Rosalind Rawls at R. Rawls at city of Starbucks-G A.gov. And of course, thank you for your service. Please join Councilwoman Barber for a free Zuma every Saturday morning at Clark Park, 8 a.m. Come on. [2:52:35, 2:52:55]: out for your fitness in the park. You see Stockbridge will host an in-person annexation town hall meeting on Thursday October 13th, 630 at the New Faith Christian Church, 396 Eagles Landing Parkway Monday. Also Monday, October 17th at 630 at Red Oak United Methodist Church. [2:52:55, 2:53:15]: And Thursday, October 20th, 6:30 p.m. at Merle Manders Conference Center, 111 Davis Road. Thursday, October 24th at 6:30 at Liberty Baptist Church, 1410 Valley Hill Road, and Tuesday, uh November 1st at 6:30 p.m., which would be at Virtual Town Hall. Please visit the web. Please visit. [2:53:15, 2:53:35]: Visit the website or Facebook page for login information. And Saturday, November 5th, 6:30 at the Bridge City Church at 3910 North Henry Boulevard. Come out and learn about the facts about the annexation referendum, neighborhoods in the proposed area, benefits of Stockbridge Annexation and proposed council districts. Please join Councilman Alezar. [2:53:35, 2:53:55]: For the Town Hall, Stockbridge Amphitheater, Thursday, October 27th, 7 p.m. to discuss economic development, business opportunities, and public safety. It's a free event. And please join Councilwoman Gantt for her annual fall festival taking place Saturday, October 29th from noon to 4 p.m. at Clark Park. It's a free event. [2:53:55, 2:53:58]: Upcoming concerts this Friday, matter of fact, Charlie Wilson. [2:53:58, 2:54:03]: All right, October fourteenth and uh tickets are going fast, gonna be sold out. [2:54:03, 2:54:23]: concert I would imagine and it's gonna be off the chain. Key Sweat Saturday October 29th and I'm pretty sure that'd be close to sold out if not a sold-out concert as well. And then Rick Springfield and Tommy Tutone Sunday October 30th with the last concert of the year. We're looking forward for that one to be sold out as well. Congratulations to Henry Kelly [2:54:23, 2:54:26]: [10466.9, 10468.8]: So we got a fantastic chamber here. [2:54:29, 2:54:43]: And next is my comments. And first I'd like to say congratulations, of course, to Atlanta Braves for getting in the playoffs again. Surely hoping I'm pretty sure most of you would hope that they will continue on and look forward to them becoming World Series championships back-to-back years. [2:54:43, 2:54:48]: And uh really hope that uh mister Michael Harris, which is a stockbridge resident. [2:54:48, 2:54:50]: Right? Becomes rook of the year. [2:54:50, 2:54:52]: I mean that'd be fantastic if that happened for'em. [2:54:53, 2:55:13]: And then if that happened well regardless of what happens, we're gonna have to come and bring him to City Hall and and give'em the key to the city or something, do something for the gentleman here, right? All right. COVID nineteen is still over on folks. So Henry County Health Department, one thirty five Henry Parkway, you get the Pfizer Mederma vaccines and that's Monday to Friday and nine A. M. to eleven thirty or [2:55:13, 2:55:14]: one PM to two thirty. [2:55:15, 2:55:35]: And 470-664-0005. Make an appointment. Free testing. It still goes on for COVID-19 in Red Hawk Field. Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, 9 a.m. to 3 PM. And of course, C D C D C recommends that you receive your second booster. If you only had one booster, I wouldn't [2:55:35, 2:55:43]: Let you know thus far for the Henry County, there have been for COVID 19, there have been 54,041 people with confirmed cases that we know of. [2:55:44, 2:56:04]: Unfortunately, been 666 confirmed deaths and 2,810 folks have been hospitalized in over the course of these last two and a half years. Let's see here. And on that note, I'm going to give some additional time, you know, to Miss Barber. She had a fantastic event this past uh couple days ago and like for her to explain what [2:56:04, 2:56:18]: happened here with her event there. Go ahead please ma'am. Thank you, Mayor Forg. I want to give a special shout out to um Amanda Reeves, the executive director of Hands of Hope, Chair Carlotta Herrell. [2:56:18, 2:56:24]: Um Jonathan Penn, the director of Henry County Parks and Recreation. [2:56:24, 2:56:27]: Um Otis Key, um the assistant. [2:56:27, 2:56:36]: Director of Parks and Rec and our own uh executive assistant to mayor and counsel, Rosalind Rawls, on helping me um to [2:56:37, 2:56:38]: Uh plan [2:56:38, 2:56:44]: this inaugural kickball charity event benefiting Hands of Hope Clinic. [2:56:44, 2:57:04]: I wanted to do something fun, something fun that would bring us all together. We're Stockbridge, where community connects. So thank you, thank you, thank you all so very much for your support of the inaugural Kickball Charity event on Saturday. Um, with your support, we exceeded our fundraising. [2:57:04, 2:57:10]: raising goal, we raised over twenty-three thousand dollars and had fun while doing it. [2:57:10, 2:57:18]: We also accomplished the mission to spread public awareness of Hands of Hope Clinic and the services that they provide to Heron County residents. [2:57:19, 2:57:23]: Although our fundraising efforts have concluded for this inaugural kickball event. [2:57:23, 2:57:25]: It is my hope that each of you can [2:57:25, 2:57:27]: We'll continue to spread the word. [2:57:27, 2:57:30]: about the amazing work of Hans of Hope Clinic. [2:57:30, 2:57:32]: It's administrative staff. [2:57:32, 2:57:52]: as well as the phenomenal medical professionals who make tremendous sacrifices by volunteering their time, expertise, and efforts to meet the needs of those who are uninsured and or underserved with medical, dental, mental health counseling services during these challenging times. [2:57:52, 2:57:54]: Whether you donate it financially or [2:57:55, 2:58:15]: Signed up to play on the team, assisted in planning this event, or even helped spread the word. Your support helped to make this event a success. With gratitude, I'm thankful. Um, congratulations once again, Henry County Water Authority, on your championship win, and I'm looking forward to us um [2:58:14, 2:58:21]: continuing this each year. I also want to challenge um all the other cities. [2:58:21, 2:58:28]: Please um acknowledge the work of nonprofits throughout our county. Um they are [2:58:29, 2:58:49]: Unsung heroes that we need to know about, recognize their efforts and the impact that they have here in our community. They provide resources, services such as Because We Care, nonprofit. We have Connecting Henry, who's also a nonprofit. [2:58:49, 2:59:09]: Here in Henry County, we've got the Southern Um Veteran Services, it's also a nonprofit organization. Um, if we could uh ask all cities throughout Henry County to please bring awareness to those nonprofits so that everybody in our county would be aware of them. So thank you, Mayor Ford. I appreciate you. [2:59:09, 2:59:11]: Allowing the time. Fantastic. Okay. [2:59:13, 2:59:16]: On that note, Council, I need a motion to go in executive session, please. [2:59:17, 2:59:21]: We do? Yes yes, ma'am, we d actually do. I'm sorry, but we do. [2:59:22, 2:59:30]: I move that we for what? Personnel handle. I move that we go into the executive session for personnel litigation and real estate. [2:59:30, 2:59:32]: Is there a second? [2:59:32, 2:59:34]: Okay, Miss Barber Seconds. All favor, please indicate. [2:59:35, 2:59:39]: Okay, thank you very much. Ladies and gentlemen, we'll be back from a sake session. Thank you. [2:59:41, 2:59:42]: [10789.0, 10790.5]: Yeah, we're we're we're all here. [2:59:51, 2:59:54]: Okay, council, I need a motion to end the second session, please. [2:59:55, 2:59:58]: So moved. Okay. Second. Okay. All favor, please indicate. [3:00:00, 3:00:20]: I need a motion to reconvene a council meeting, please. So moved. Second. All right. And from our executive session, we have all favor, I'm sorry, excuse me. All favor. This is the unanimous decision. Thank you very much. I'm trying to rush too much, I suppose. Anyway, we have uh something to mention and to bring forward from our executive session. Ms. Barber, please. [3:00:20, 3:00:20]: Yeah. [3:00:20, 3:00:27]: Mayor Ford, I motion to approve the one year renewal of employment agreement with Police Chief Frank Tramer. Second. [3:00:28, 3:00:30]: Okay, fantastic. All in favor, please indicate. [3:00:31, 3:00:43]: All right. Congratulations to Chief Tramor. And uh now council need a motion to end our uh council meeting, please. So my second. Okay, all favor please indicate. Outstanding. Good night everybody. [3:00:43, 3:00:45]: God bless you.

--- title: Special Called Meeting date: 2022-10-03 source: 2022-10-03_Special_Called_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:02, 0:00:03]: Okay. We are now recording. [0:00:20, 0:00:23]: And we're now back on Facebook Live, ladies and gentlemen. [0:00:46, 0:00:50]: I'll tell you what we do. Uh actually we have [0:00:50, 0:00:59]: We actually have a quorum. So this is we actually have a quorum. So on that note, uh council, I need a motion to end the executive session, please. [0:00:59, 0:01:05]: So move. Okay, okay, Mayor Pro Tender, Mr. Alexander. All in favor, please indicate. [0:01:06, 0:01:11]: Thank you very much. Now I need a motion to reconvene our special call meeting, please. [0:01:11, 0:01:13]: So move. Okay. [0:01:13, 0:01:18]: Sec second, Mr. Alexander. Okay, Mare Protellant to Mr. Alexander. All in favor, please indicate. [0:01:19, 0:01:36]: All right, then ladies and gentlemen, we have nothing to report from this from our executive session at this time. So now I need a motion to end our special call meeting, please. So move. Okay. Second. Okay. Mayor Protect Thomas to uh Mr. Alexander. Okay. On that note, all in favor, please indicate. [0:01:37, 0:01:40]: All right. And thank you very much. Good night. God bless you all. See you soon. [0:01:40, 0:01:41]: Bye. [0:01:42, 0:01:45]: All right. Goodbye. Good night. Good night. [0:01:51, 0:01:57]: All right. Now we're now recording. I'll tell you what, uh we actually let's do this. We got attorneys. Okay. [0:01:57, 0:01:59]: Uh where's the city manager? [0:02:04, 0:02:05]: Oh. [0:03:25, 0:03:26]: Make a four. [0:03:27, 0:03:37]: Yes, sir. Is Mr. Young over is he here? I I'm on the line right now with him. He's got some problems. So I'm just uh waiting to see if he can solve his problem before we get started. [0:03:38, 0:03:39]: Thank you. You're welcome. [0:04:34, 0:04:35]: Mm short. [0:04:38, 0:04:39]: Mm-hmm. [0:05:00, 0:05:12]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, uh let's uh let's get started here. I have 604 and I'd like to call this special call meeting uh to order. Uh this is October third, Monday, October third, twenty twenty two. [0:05:12, 0:05:13]: And Mr. Blount. [0:05:14, 0:05:17]: I noticed a last minute request, but could you give the invocation tonight, uh sir? [0:05:19, 0:05:20]: Yes, sir. [0:05:20, 0:05:21]: All right, please, thank you. [0:05:23, 0:05:28]: Dear Heavenly Gracious Father, we come to you tonight. God, first of all, thank you for your grace and we thank you for your mercy. [0:05:29, 0:05:39]: We ask right now, Heavenly Father, in your presence that you would continue to guide our hearts and our minds, that we would make the decision for this great city that we call Stockbridge, Heavenly Father, that we would continue to move this city forward. [0:05:39, 0:05:43]: empowers as leaders, God, that we would continue to be steadfast and [0:05:44, 0:05:53]: And move everything in that that that first will be pleasing in your sight. We thank you, God, for the citizens. We ask Heavenly Father you continue to keep those and protect those that have suffered from the storms, Heavenly Father in Florida. [0:05:54, 0:05:55]: And up the east coast. [0:05:56, 0:06:07]: So we ask Heavenly Father right now you continue to be with us and keep us. And we will definitely give you all the grace and all the honor, Heavenly Father. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen. Amen. Could you please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance? [0:06:10, 0:06:21]: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:06:23, 0:06:25]: Madam Clerk, roll call please. [0:06:26, 0:06:27]: Mayor Ford. Present. [0:06:28, 0:06:29]: May approach him Thomas. [0:06:30, 0:06:30]: President. [0:06:30, 0:06:32]: Councilman Alexander. [0:06:32, 0:06:33]: Where is it? [0:06:33, 0:06:34]: Councilwoman Barber. [0:06:34, 0:06:35]: Is it? [0:06:35, 0:06:36]: Council Member Blount. [0:06:37, 0:06:37]: Present. [0:06:38, 0:06:39]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:06:40, 0:06:41]: Friends. [0:06:42, 0:06:50]: Mayor Ford, you have a quorum. Oh, fantastic. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Uh Council, I need adoption of the agenda for this evening, please. [0:06:53, 0:06:56]: Motion to move up. Ms. Can't so moves there a second. [0:06:56, 0:06:57]: Second. [0:06:57, 0:06:59]: Mr. Blount second, all in favor, please indicate. [0:07:00, 0:07:04]: Aye. All right. Announced decision. Thank you very much. [0:07:04, 0:07:08]: Um now I need a motion to go in executive session, please. [0:07:10, 0:07:13]: Mayor I I move that we go into executive session for personnel. [0:07:14, 0:07:34]: Thank you, sir. Second. Second. This uh Mr. Blount second. I mean Mr. Thomas sectors that all in favor, please indicate. Aye. Okay. Fantastic. Okay, so you now see. All right. So we'll go into executar session. That means uh Ms. Holliday, you will have to send uh of course a different link to everybody and we'll see you in the executive session. And Mayor Pro Tem, I was not talking to young [0:07:34, 0:07:38]: I misunderstood you. I was talking to Mr. Gardner. Mr. Yo Young will join us in the second session, sir. [0:07:39, 0:07:42]: Thank you. Okay. I'll see you on a second session.

--- title: Work Session Meeting date: 2022-09-27 source: 2022-09-27_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:20]: This is the city's portion of the franchise agreement. We have to pay for the relocation of the lighting infrastructure on uh South Lee Street and East Atlanta Road. The city has already signed the Make Ready Agreement with Georgia Power, which put them on notice to start developing the project that we were told when. [0:00:20, 0:00:40]: When we met with them uh that it'll be three to four weeks before they uh relocate the lighting infrastructure, but this is formalizing and authorizing the city to pay their franchise agreement share to Georgia Power for the relocation of the infrastructure. And this is with [0:00:39, 0:00:47]: within the the splash four that was allocated for the Lee Street East Atlanta Road improvements. [0:00:48, 0:01:01]: Uh Councilman Blount. I'd like to approve the two um I'd like to for us to go ahead and approve the uh two hundred five thousand six hundred and eight dollars for the uh re uh relocation agreement for East Atlanta Road. [0:01:02, 0:01:03]: I said. [0:01:03, 0:01:04]: A second. [0:01:05, 0:01:06]: I in a in a discussion [0:01:08, 0:01:08]: I'm sorry. [0:01:09, 0:01:11]: Me, Lakeisha. [0:01:12, 0:01:13]: In a discussion. [0:01:14, 0:01:15]: All in favor? [0:01:18, 0:01:20]: You know, uh okay. [0:01:21, 0:01:25]: Um agenda item [0:01:25, 0:01:26]: Um [0:01:27, 0:01:34]: Oh oh eleven. [0:01:35, 0:01:44]: Yes, thank you. No, it just seemed like we got some other discussion going on and I just wanna make sure that uh that that's not gonna happen on my watch. [0:01:46, 0:01:47]: Okay. [0:01:49, 0:01:58]: All right. Okay. We we're moving on. Um council um Madam Klerk, you was you was saying something? No. [0:02:04, 0:02:05]: Okay, um [0:02:07, 0:02:09]: Presentation. This is a presentation [0:02:10, 0:02:13]: for counsel regarding the agreement with Georgia Power. [0:02:14, 0:02:16]: And the Stanton Electorate. [0:02:17, 0:02:29]: to provide electric charging station at City Hall and the amphitheater installation cost sixty two thousand nine hundred and fifteen provided by Georgia Power presented by [0:02:30, 0:02:33]: Brecker Carter and Deshes Aaron. [0:02:33, 0:02:53]: Yes, Mr. Mayor Pro Tem. Uh I think when during the construction of the amphithe amphitheater, one of the the main items was the installation of electric charging stations. So we're currently having the five stations installed, but like I said, I wasn't on this project when it originally started, but we never formalized [0:02:53, 0:03:09]: the cost for the amp for the uh charging stations. This is for the actual charging stations themselves. The infrastructure is uh provided by Georgia Power and their uh one of their contractors. [0:03:15, 0:03:15]: Mm. [0:03:17, 0:03:26]: In uh in in addition though No, I w I was gonna say that the the sixty two thousand is nothing that we're paying out. That's the cost is coming from Georgia Powell. [0:03:26, 0:03:27]: Um [0:03:27, 0:03:47]: As you know, states and local governments and other entities were given monies to look at charging stations and sustainability and all of that stuff. So the Public Safety Commission, I think, got like five billion dollars and they've now allotted those money through Georgia Power, who is our power provider in the city of Stockbridge. [0:03:48, 0:03:49]: Um [0:03:49, 0:03:52]: to allow for us to work on this project with Georgia Powell. [0:03:53, 0:04:13]: Um so we will get those charging stations at no cost. The city's not putting up any cost whatsoever. Um as it relates to this, it's an opportunity for us to actually make some money. Well, there is a cost associated with it. Um it does not exceed twelve thousand dollars a year, fourteen thousand dollars a year, um, and that's just to pay for the operation. [0:04:13, 0:04:28]: and maintenance, but we will also get revenue because if we charge for fueling anything above whatever that rate is, and we'll work with Georgia Power to determine that, that's how we gain revenue. So it actually is a g revenue gain for the city as well, potentially. [0:04:30, 0:04:40]: And we see it as a good fit. It hits that goal that we talked about during our strategic plan about being sustainable. And this is one of those goals and this is one way for us to be able to achieve that sustainability. [0:04:41, 0:05:01]: I mean, that's good and awesome. I definitely um I'm definitely uh you know, we we're definitely going coming into the uh coming to our own with what we need to do in the city. I just wish that in the future we would put that item in uh presentation since there's really no uh no nothing needed from council on this other than l uh awareness, right? Right. And I and [0:05:01, 0:05:21]: And that's why it was changed to a presentation because ultimately the you know, the the cost didn't exceed whatever the authorization was for us to be able to do it, um, administratively, but you know, we we understood that someone was gonna ask a question, What's going on over there in the parking lot? They're putting in those charging stations. Georgia Power's paying sixty two thousand for it, Stanton Electric is putting it in. [0:05:22, 0:05:25]: I I don't have just one concern, I'll make it real brief. [0:05:25, 0:05:25]: Okay. [0:05:26, 0:05:27]: The location. [0:05:27, 0:05:32]: What went into deciding that particular location. And my concern is [0:05:32, 0:05:34]: Eliminating [0:05:35, 0:05:36]: Parking spaces [0:05:37, 0:05:50]: when we actually need those parking space in that location. But and I just wanted to throw that out. It's right there. [0:05:50, 0:05:53]: And that was the reason why without having to dig up to put [0:05:53, 0:05:59]: put it somewhere else. Okay. That was the reason why we would have had to destroy landscaping and some other stuff to [0:06:00, 0:06:01]: Drudge [0:06:01, 0:06:06]: and get power from another source. But if you look, there's a transformer sitting right over from [0:06:06, 0:06:09]: From this and they're piggybacking off of that. Okay. [0:06:09, 0:06:11]: Uh any other questions, concerns? [0:06:13, 0:06:26]: Well we'll be getting those spaces back, if you will, Mayor Petit. We'll be getting those spaces back with the completion on Lee Street. And that project does it. Plus you also gotta realize if someone, you know, hopefully I'm gonna be one that's gonna own an electric vehicle. [0:06:27, 0:06:31]: Um at our city hall in East Point, we had four charging stations. [0:06:31, 0:06:35]: Not that everybody who had a electron car parked in it. [0:06:35, 0:06:50]: 'Cause people did violate d did it. So um but it at least allow for those folks who have those Teslas and and some of the new electric vehicles that you see coming online will be able to come in, park, charge, go into the amphitheater, enjoy themselves, unplug and leave. [0:06:51, 0:07:06]: Okay, now this is a presentation so we don't need to take any action. Okay, any other questions, concerns on this item? Uh we we have we did motion to uh agenda item in executive session. I would run through [0:07:06, 0:07:15]: the mayor's comments uh as quick as I can and we'll go to executive session. Um [0:07:18, 0:07:31]: Time to look at the time. Okay. Um any any issues, any concerns before I run through these? Okay. Um City Council meeting the second month of each month, City Hall. [0:07:31, 0:07:51]: Uh can a council chamber october the 10th. Uh council meeting 5 30 p.m. the second month of each month, City Hall, Levi Meeting Room, uh City Hall, October 10th, Main Street Advisory Board meeting the second Friday of each month, 9 a.m. Uh City Hall Levi Meeting Room [0:07:51, 0:08:11]: October 14th. Downtown Development Authority meeting, 6 p.m. Zoom, Tuesday of each month, October 18th. U Council Advisory Committee meeting, 6:30 p.m. The third Tuesday of each month to leave our room October the 18th. [0:08:11, 0:08:31]: City Council Work Session Tuesday at 6 p.m. City Hall Chamber October the 25th. Planning Commission meeting the fourth Thursday at 6.30 p.m. City Hall. Council Chamber October the 27th. Upcoming city event. [0:08:31, 0:08:45]: and initiative. Continuous salute to veterans. Please follow your pictures of veterans, include the name, branch, rank, to Mayor Pro Tem and submit them to Rosalind Ross. [0:08:45, 0:09:02]: Uh please join Councilwoman Barber for a free Zoom every Saturday morning at Clark Community Park, 8 a.m. Please join Councilwoman Barber as she kicked healthcare. [0:09:02, 0:09:03]: Yeah, put him. [0:09:05, 0:09:11]: Our kickball charity event is being postponed until next Saturday, October eighth. [0:09:12, 0:09:17]: Okay, um please note that the [0:09:18, 0:09:20]: Kickball. [0:09:21, 0:09:26]: Which was scheduled for this Saturday has been postponed until [0:09:27, 0:09:27]: Give us a date. [0:09:28, 0:09:29]: October eighth. [0:09:29, 0:09:32]: October the eighth. [0:09:33, 0:09:38]: Okay, thank you. Um Main Street. [0:09:39, 0:09:59]: Will host a movie on the City Hall lawn featuring Spider-Man Saturday, October the 7th. Uh the fun starts at 7 p.m. Uh the City of Stockbridge will host an in-person annexation town hall meeting at Monarch Village Clubhouse, 2:40 Monarch Village. [0:09:59, 0:10:02]: village way stock bridge um [0:10:04, 0:10:16]: Please join Councilman Alexander for a town hall at the Stockbridge Amphitheater Thursday, October the twenty-seventh at seven PM to discuss economic development, business opportunities. [0:10:16, 0:10:17]: Public safety. [0:10:18, 0:10:23]: Please join Councilwoman Gantt for her annual fall festival. [0:10:24, 0:10:29]: Taking place Saturday, October the twenty ninth, at twelve noon. [0:10:29, 0:10:32]: Not ten. I'm sorry. It's at twelve noon, not ten AM. [0:10:33, 0:10:33]: Okay. [0:10:34, 0:10:52]: Taking place Saturday, October the twenty-ninth from twelve noon to four p.m. Okay. Um upcoming concert. Uh Hispanic Fest has been postponed until [0:10:54, 0:11:10]: It was scheduled for this Saturday, October the 1st. It has been postponed. There's no further date. Charlie Wilson in concert Friday, October the 14th. Stockbridge Amphitheater. Key Sweat in concert Saturday, October the 29th. [0:11:11, 0:11:13]: Rick Springfield [0:11:13, 0:11:16]: In concert Sunday, October the thirtieth. [0:11:17, 0:11:18]: Um [0:11:18, 0:11:24]: Can I get a motion for to end regular session and go into executive session? [0:11:27, 0:11:28]: Second. I second. [0:11:29, 0:11:33]: Okay. I'm sorry. I move that we go into executive session for real estate personnel and litigation. [0:11:33, 0:11:36]: In the discussion, all in favor? [0:11:38, 0:11:38]: Opposed. [0:11:40, 0:11:41]: Thank you. [0:11:43, 0:11:44]: Stop talking to it. [0:11:58, 0:12:02]: That means we feel like it says zero. [0:12:02, 0:12:04]: Mm-hmm. It's cold. [0:12:06, 0:12:07]: Right here. [0:12:17, 0:12:18]: Okay. [0:12:19, 0:12:22]: Ready, he read it, she read it. You read it, Madam Cook. Yes. [0:12:27, 0:12:32]: Council, I need a motion to end executive session. So moved. [0:12:33, 0:12:34]: Okay. [0:12:35, 0:12:36]: In a discussion. [0:12:37, 0:12:38]: All in favor? [0:12:39, 0:12:41]: Now I need a motion to resume. [0:12:42, 0:12:43]: So moved. [0:12:44, 0:12:46]: Second. Any discussion? [0:12:50, 0:12:53]: Academy's own uh all face. [0:12:54, 0:12:55]: Now I need a motion to adjoin. [0:12:56, 0:13:01]: Mayor Pro Tem, um I would like to make a motion to approve [0:13:01, 0:13:11]: I would like to make a motion to approve the um city for potential litigation of loss in STS in conjunction with other Henry County municipalities. [0:13:11, 0:13:12]: Second. [0:13:12, 0:13:14]: Any discussion? [0:13:15, 0:13:16]: All in favor? [0:13:17, 0:13:37]: Mayor Pro Tem. Yes. I would like to make a motion that we um approve uh adding three positions to create an in house information technology department. Um and one position is recommended in twenty two twenty two budget and the other positions are to be considered in the twenty twenty three budget year. [0:13:38, 0:13:41]: Second. Uh any discussion? [0:13:42, 0:13:43]: All in favor? [0:13:45, 0:13:47]: Pose? Abstain. [0:13:47, 0:13:48]: I have stayed. [0:13:49, 0:13:50]: Mayor Pro Tem. [0:13:51, 0:13:52]: Wait, wait, wait a minute. [0:13:54, 0:13:55]: Is it? [0:13:55, 0:13:59]: Well we got three in favor. Okay. So motion carry. [0:14:00, 0:14:10]: Mayor Pro Tem? Yes. I motion that we adjourn our regular scheduled work session meeting. So moved. Any discussion? All in favor? Meeting adjoined.