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--- title: Regular Council Meetings date: 2022-04-11 source: 2022-04-11_Regular_Council_Meetings.wav --- [0:00:07, 0:00:09]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are now recording. [0:00:21, 0:00:24]: And we are now on Facebook Live as well. [0:00:30, 0:00:38]: [ 40.7, 43.6]: [0:00:52, 0:00:54]: [ 83.4, 85.8]: I'm I'm at a meeting. [0:01:28, 0:01:30]: You're mad, you're me. [0:01:31, 0:01:34]: Uh Mr. Anderson, if you would there you go. Thank you. [0:01:50, 0:01:52]: Good evening. Good evening. [0:02:08, 0:02:11]: Hello everyone. Good evening. [0:02:21, 0:02:23]: Yes. [0:02:56, 0:03:00]: Yeah, what time is the uh ceremony tomorrow for the [0:03:01, 0:03:03]: Center for the stem school. [0:03:07, 0:03:08]: The mu [0:03:09, 0:03:12]: Four four PM. Just four PM okay. [0:03:12, 0:03:13]: Yeah, I'm sorry about that. Yes, four PM. [0:03:15, 0:03:17]: All right, thank you. [0:03:27, 0:03:29]: Okay, let's see here. [0:03:30, 0:03:36]: We have uh okay, Mr. Washington, okay. [0:03:37, 0:03:39]: Just one second, Mayor. Okay, thank you. [0:04:10, 0:04:10]: Yeah. [0:05:01, 0:05:02]: Are you good to go now, Miss Holliday? [0:05:09, 0:05:14]: We had a request for an email change. So um IT is sending that out right now. [0:05:14, 0:05:17]: If you give us just a couple of seconds, please. Okay. [0:05:44, 0:05:47]: Continue to be patient, folks. We'll get started in just a second here. [0:06:19, 0:06:20]: [388.6, 404.5]: It's been sent mayor and you do have a quantum. Okay. Thanks a lot. I appreciate it. Thank you. All right, late. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, okay. Yeah, I have 602. I'm gonna call our council meeting for April 11th, 2020 to order and I will give the invocation. So please buy ahead. [0:06:45, 0:06:52]: Lord, thank you for bringing this together once again to do the city's business as the citizens have elected us to do. Allow us to have outstanding dialogue. [0:06:53, 0:06:58]: continue to move the city forward, continue to make good logical decisions. Be us always Lord in your name. [0:06:58, 0:06:59]: Amen. [0:06:59, 0:07:00]: Amen. [0:07:01, 0:07:02]: I need a um [0:07:04, 0:07:07]: Pledge of allegiance, please. Let's keep please stand for a pledge of allegiance. [0:07:10, 0:07:23]: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, to the Republic for which it stays one nature, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice small. [0:07:25, 0:07:28]: Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Madam Kirk, we'll call, please. [0:07:35, 0:07:36]: Mayor Ford. Present. [0:07:36, 0:07:38]: Mayor Pro Tem Thomas. [0:07:38, 0:07:39]: Present. [0:07:39, 0:07:41]: Councilman Alexander. [0:07:41, 0:07:42]: Present. [0:07:42, 0:07:43]: Councilwoman Barber. [0:07:43, 0:07:44]: Present. [0:07:44, 0:07:45]: Councilman Blount. [0:07:46, 0:07:46]: President [0:07:46, 0:07:47]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:07:50, 0:08:03]: the breaker reflect councilwoman Gantt is not in attendance mayor forward do you have a forum thank you madam clerk i appreciate that um council i need adoption of the agenda i believe there's going to be amendment to the agenda which i was that clear [0:08:04, 0:08:10]: Yes, sir. Mayor I'd like to um amend the agenda to add a resolution. [0:08:10, 0:08:13]: Allowing the council to return to in person meetings. [0:08:14, 0:08:16]: Uh obviously that is contingent upon. [0:08:16, 0:08:21]: Uh the changes and uh the science, and uh we shall continue to follow that. [0:08:21, 0:08:24]: But this gives us the the ability to be able to meet. [0:08:24, 0:08:26]: uh in person going forward. [0:08:27, 0:08:27]: Is there a second? [0:08:28, 0:08:31]: Ms. Barber seconded that motion. All in favor, please indicate. [0:08:33, 0:08:38]: Okay. Okay. As as unanimous in that decision. We'll make that item number thirteen a new business. Okay. [0:08:40, 0:09:00]: And uh we'll have our attorneys to start off that discussion when we get to that point. Um a motion to adopt the minutes uh that we have present. Then those are uh minutes for the four February 14th council meeting and also the February 22nd um council work session. I need a motion to adopt those minutes, please. [0:09:00, 0:09:00]: [541.8, 546.2]: We need to adopt the full agenda. Right. If you would adopt the agenda with the amendment. [0:09:07, 0:09:08]: That's right. [0:09:08, 0:09:15]: Keep it straight. Okay. You're right. I need a motion to adopt the overall agenda, please. So move. Is there a second? [0:09:16, 0:09:20]: Miss Barber, your hand is again second. Okay, she seconded that. All favor, please indicate. [0:09:21, 0:09:25]: All right, unanimous decision. All right. So keep me honest, right? Okay, now. [0:09:26, 0:09:35]: In reference to the adoption of the minutes, I've already mentioned that council work, a council meeting on February 14th and council work session on February 22nd. Please, a motion. [0:09:35, 0:09:36]: So [0:09:36, 0:09:38]: Okay, Mr. Alexander, sir second. [0:09:40, 0:09:41]: Is there a second? [0:09:43, 0:09:49]: In reference to the minutes, is there a second to approve the minutes? Ms. Barber, saw your hand again. Okay. All in favor, please indicate. [0:09:50, 0:09:52]: Outstanding is announced decision on that point. [0:09:53, 0:09:56]: All right, uh Miss Holiday, do we have any public comments at all? [0:09:57, 0:10:01]: Mayor Ford, we do have two public comments tonight. [0:10:02, 0:10:05]: First comment is from Mr. Burns with Senior Greenland Drive. [0:10:06, 0:10:07]: McDonald, Georgia. [0:10:08, 0:10:17]: The city of Stockbridge has jammed over thirty-two hundred people in the state-of-the-art Stockbridge amphitheater since September 2021, but yet continues to hold city. [0:10:17, 0:10:26]: Of Stockbridge, Georgia City Council meetings virtually. The entire government of Henry County and neighboring counties are open to the public. [0:10:26, 0:10:43]: Why is the mayor and city council still denying the public access to these meetings in person? There is absolutely no excuse to continue to hold these meetings virtually when the administration, mayor, and council is massless away from city hall. Open up these meetings to the public in person, please. [0:10:45, 0:11:00]: Second comment, Mayor. All right, go ahead. Well obviously, obviously that particular issue we're going to address later on this evening. Okay. All right. Good. Yes, sir. Next comment. Next comment is from Sonny Randanza, Brant Street, Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:11:01, 0:11:06]: The noise mitigation issue should be on the agenda, but it is still not. [0:11:07, 0:11:17]: Please keep your promises. It's disrespectful to continually put this problem off. It is damaging people's health, mine in particular. We still have no schedule. [0:11:17, 0:11:21]: for sound checks and no attempt to limit the time for sound checks. [0:11:21, 0:11:28]: Which lasts way longer than the actual concerts. We deserve to at least know when we will be blasted out. [0:11:29, 0:11:30]: In our homes. [0:11:31, 0:11:33]: The Thursday before the party. [0:11:33, 0:11:33]: Concert. [0:11:34, 0:11:36]: We had a two hour [0:11:36, 0:11:39]: Sound check. The next day, Friday, [0:11:39, 0:11:43]: I was working from home and the sound check started at twelve fifty seven. [0:11:43, 0:11:47]: You can imagine how difficult it is to carry on a conversation with a customer. [0:11:48, 0:11:55]: Everything you guys do lately is harmful to taxpayers and constituents. Even City Hall closed at 3 p.m. that day. [0:11:56, 0:12:16]: To deal with the show, please can someone address this problem tonight? We have waited long enough for the city to have inquiries into noise abatement, especially when it should have been addressed before construction. For more than three years, I have asked for mitigation for this neighborhood. Also, please address sunshine loss and the fact that the city of Stockbridge Council [0:12:16, 0:12:26]: meetings are still not being held in public. We see officials all over town in public. No mask. How long will we be banned from public participation? Thanks. [0:12:26, 0:12:28]: Thank you for that. And um [0:12:28, 0:12:48]: Mr. Gardner, you still have the lead, sir, in reference to this mitigation and um that's a collective issue that we have to deal with. So we'll continue to work through the process and try to get see what we can do to get this thing resolved. Appreciate your assistance, sir. Thank you very much. Mayor. Yes, ma'am. For the record, Councilwoman Gantt has joined the meeting. Fantastic. Okay, that's a compliment. All right. Yeah, um [0:12:48, 0:12:49]: Mr. Gordon. [0:12:49, 0:12:54]: Yes, ma'am. And um I've tasked the uh engineers and architects with [0:12:54, 0:12:58]: coming up with three options on the sound mitigation. [0:12:58, 0:13:02]: So as soon as they completed that work, we'll present that to May and Council. [0:13:02, 0:13:05]: Along with the cost associated to implement it. [0:13:06, 0:13:07]: Thanks, sir. Appreciate that. [0:13:07, 0:13:08]: You're welcome. [0:13:08, 0:13:15]: Okay, ceremonial. We have a couple of proclamations this evening and Robin Jones. I'm glad to see you join us. [0:13:16, 0:13:22]: This is a proclamation from the councils, uh, Mary City Council on um child abuse prevention month, which is April. [0:13:23, 0:13:28]: Whereas children are critical to Georgia's future success, prosperity, and quality of life. [0:13:28, 0:13:33]: While children are our most valuable resource, they are also our most vulnerable. [0:13:34, 0:13:41]: Children have a right to be safe and an opportunity to thrive, learn, and grow in an environment that fosters healthy development. [0:13:43, 0:13:52]: And whereas child abuse and neglect can be prevented by supporting and strengthening Georgia's families, thus preventing a far-reaching effect of maltreatment. [0:13:52, 0:13:59]: and providing the opportunity for children to develop healthy, trusting family bonds and consequently building the foundation of communities. [0:14:00, 0:14:12]: And whereas effectively intervening in the lives of children threatened by abuse is a shared responsibility. And Georgia citizens must come together so that the voices of our children are heard by all. [0:14:13, 0:14:17]: We all must ensure that our communities are extending helpful hands. [0:14:17, 0:14:35]: to children and families in need, whereas effective child abuse prevention strategies succeed because of partnerships created among citizens, human resource agencies, schools, faith communities, healthcare providers, civic organizations, law enforcement agencies, and the business community. [0:14:36, 0:14:56]: Whereas by providing a safe and nurturing environment for our children, free of violence, abuse, and neglect, we can ensure that Georgia's children will grow to their full potential as the next generation of leaders, helping to secure the future of this state and nation. Now, therefore, I, Mayor Anthony S. Ford, by virtue of authority vested in me as a mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:14:56, 0:14:56]: Mm-hmm. [0:14:57, 0:15:13]: And on behalf of City Council members Elton Alexander, Yolanda Barber, John Blount, Nakesa Gantt and Afonso Thomas, do hereby proclaim April 2022 as Child Abuse Prevention Month in Georgia and urge families and communities to become involved in protecting Georgia's children. [0:15:14, 0:15:30]: In witness whereof I have here hereunto set my hand on the 11th day of April 2022 and have caused the official seal of the great city of Stockbridge to be affixed here too. And I signed the proclamation along with uh Vanessa Holliday, our clerk. Congratulations. Thank you, Robin, for being here. [0:15:31, 0:15:34]: Robin, the the floor is yours, ma'am, for any comments that you may have. [0:15:35, 0:15:48]: Thank you so much, Mayor Ford. We greatly appreciate it. And you've already given me the beautifully framed proclamation. We do appreciate that. And we just appreciate the city of Stockbridge and your commitment to the children of Henry County. [0:15:48, 0:16:07]: And also for your continued support year after year for prevent child abuse, Henry. Thank you so much. Well, thank you for being here. And you and you're more than welcome to stay as long as you like for the meeting tonight. It's up clear clearly up to you. Okay. I appreciate it. I have a board meeting at 6 30 though, but thank you so much. You're welcome. Take care of yourself. You too. Okay. [0:16:09, 0:16:10]: Dr. Paul Brown, welcome sir. [0:16:13, 0:16:19]: Mayor Ford, thank you so much for allowing me to be a part of the ceremony this evening. No problem. No problem, sir. I have a proclamation for you as well. [0:16:19, 0:16:26]: This is for the National Medical Laboratory Professionals Week, which is April 24th to 30th of 2022. [0:16:27, 0:16:39]: Whereas Medical Laboratory Professionals Week, MLPW, provides the profession with a unique opportunity to increase public understanding of and appreciation for the clinical laboratory personnel. [0:16:40, 0:16:41]: And whereas [0:16:41, 0:16:54]: MLPW, which takes place the last full week of April each year, and is coordinated by the collaborative committee with representatives from seven uh 17 national clinical laboratory organizations, including [0:16:54, 0:17:07]: AMT, American Medical Technologists, AC, excuse me, ASCLS, American Society for Clinical Laboratory Science, and ASM, the American Society on Microbiology. [0:17:07, 0:17:27]: And whereas there's approximately 300,000 practitioners of the clinical laboratory science in the United States, and whereas lab week is the annual celebration of the medical laboratory professionals and pathologists who play a vital role in healthcare and patient advocacy. Now, therefore, I, Anthony S. Ford, mayor of City of Stockbridge, Georgia, along with council members Elton Alexander. [0:17:27, 0:17:42]: Alana Barber John Blount Lakeisha Gantt and Afonso Thomas do hereby proclaim the week of April 20 to 2024 to 30, 2022, as National Medical Library Professional Week in the great city of Stockbridge, Georgia, and recognize and celebrate. [0:17:43, 0:17:50]: the term teams of the lab at Piemont Henry Hospital, who are the impact behind diagnostic medicine. [0:17:50, 0:18:06]: Thank you for all that you do, a witness whereof I have hereunto sent my hand and the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the eleventh day of April, the year of our Lord 2022. And I sign this proclamation along with our clerk Vanessa Holiday. Congratulations, sir. Mr. Brown. [0:18:08, 0:18:13]: Thank you, Chair. We appreciate it. And on behalf of the Clinical Lab Science Group. [0:18:13, 0:18:20]: And especially the group at Pete Mount Henry Hospital. Uh we do ac actually recognize that last week in April internationally. [0:18:20, 0:18:22]: Other places as well. So uh [0:18:23, 0:18:26]: I'm not sure whether Leticia Harris is on today, but she's a manager there and [0:18:27, 0:18:30]: Our thanks to you and the council for providing [0:18:30, 0:18:33]: of this proclamation on their behalf. Thank you so very much. [0:18:34, 0:18:42]: You're welcome, sir. And I'll make a point to coordinate in reference to getting an actual framed proclamation to you, sir, and your staff. Okay. I got to work that out with you. All right. [0:18:43, 0:18:48]: Thank you very much, sir. Appreciate it. No problem. Appreciate it. Take care of yourself, sir. You can stay as long as you like, by the way, as well. So clear it up to you. [0:18:49, 0:18:51]: Okay. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Uh huh. [0:18:52, 0:19:07]: We'll move right on right on. We have a presentation. The Hemedy County Chamber of Commerce Convention and Visitors Bureau annual hotel motel tax report for the city of Stockbridge for FY21, presented by Laura Lucre. And I see we also have Mr. Joe Henning online as well. [0:19:08, 0:19:09]: Okay. [0:19:10, 0:19:11]: Laura's all yours. [0:19:12, 0:19:13]: Thank you, Mayor. [0:19:16, 0:19:18]: Can y'all see the presentation? [0:19:18, 0:19:19]: Yes, we do. [0:19:19, 0:19:20]: Okay. [0:19:20, 0:19:40]: So as Mayor said, I am Laura Lucer and I am the director of tourism for Visit Henry County, Georgia, or as we call ourselves a destination marketing organization, which means that we market Henry County as a destination for tourists to visit, eat, stay. [0:19:40, 0:19:55]: meet, shop, or play. And our mission is to inspire tourism by engaging our partners and the community in order to build a sense of hospitality for Henry County visitors and to stimulate economic development. [0:19:56, 0:20:16]: And we um I think it's important to note that the law states that our role is promoting tourism's conventions and trade shows and to do so by planning, conducting, or participating in programs of information and publicity that are designed to attract or advertise tourism conventions or trade shows. So again. [0:20:16, 0:20:26]: Again, it's all about the advertising and the publicity. It's not um about um the building of the actual things. I like to I saw I saw this um [0:20:27, 0:20:46]: example and I really liked it. I feel like it's really clear picture of what a d DMO or a destination marketing organization does. Um that we are museum curators. We don't create the art or select the types of art that goes into the museum necessarily, but we are charged with looking at what we have. [0:20:47, 0:20:59]: and figuring out how those patrons, those visitors will best respond to it and how to package it, how to market it to get them to come and to visit our museum. And so we're really facilitators and collaborators. [0:21:00, 0:21:20]: And just um as we talk about CVBs, there's a lot of I think um confusion maybe about what um destination marketing organizations or CVBs do. We are in fact a private nonprofit that by law must be a 501c6, and we are completely supported by what's called the hotel motel. [0:21:20, 0:21:23]: Tax. You'll see it referred to later as the HMT. [0:21:23, 0:21:43]: And we, while we are a division of the chamber, we are geographic and industry specific rather than membership-based as the chamber is. And we also do have our own board of directors and financials. And we promote the cities of Hampton, Stockbridge, Locust Grove, and then the unincorporated parts of Henry County. [0:21:43, 0:22:03]: And so while we receive this hotel motel tax, it is not a tax that's paid by locals. It's not supported by local tax. It is by people who visit and stay in hotels. And we don't receive any funding from any source, other no government sources, just that hotel motel tax. And like I said, we're not, we are not a membership. [0:22:03, 0:22:23]: Organization. But and while we do promote for businesses to get to know each other, we feel like there's a lot of real good benefits from our partners knowing each other. We are not primarily a business promotion or business networking organization. So that's just some of the ways in which we differ. Again, we're our entire efforts are focused outward. [0:22:24, 0:22:32]: And so we promote um restaurants, attractions, accommodations, caterers, special event venues, special event um [0:22:32, 0:22:52]: Special events themselves, film sites, anything that brings tourists to the area. And these types of tourists include leisure travelers, youth sports travelers, brides, business travelers, wedding re weddings, family reunions, corporate meetings, day trippers, production companies. But what you'll notice on the list that's not included is not residents. We do not promote. [0:22:52, 0:23:12]: To residents. So if we are doing our jobs well, you will probably not see the majority of the ads that we're doing because we are not targeting them inside Henry County. Our ads are all targeted outside Henry County. Exceptions might be if you, you know, maybe subscribe to a local magazine or a travel magazine, pick up the state travel guide, or maybe if you're seeing [0:23:12, 0:23:19]: one of our billboards. Those are instances, I guess, in which residents may see billboards or see some of our ads. [0:23:20, 0:23:33]: Now, um, so this is a tax that is paid by the by the visitor. Um, this is kind of how it functions. You'll see a visitor will come to stay at a hotel, they'll book a hotel, and when they check in, they pay for the room rate. [0:23:34, 0:23:42]: The state and local taxes, they pay the occupancy tax or the hotel motel tax, and then the$5 state transportation fee. And they pay this per night. [0:23:42, 0:24:02]: So the hotel collects all of this. They collect all of their occupancy tax. And at the end of the month, they then send that month's hotel motel tax to the city or the county in which they reside. So if it's in Stockbridge, then they would send the money directly to Stockbridge. From that point, the stock [0:24:02, 0:24:09]: City of Stockbridge then keeps um either sixty or forty percent, or excuse me, sixty or um roughly [0:24:10, 0:24:14]: Um depending on the the percentage, whether it's five percent or eight percent, um, they keep [0:24:14, 0:24:16]: The larger share and then send [0:24:17, 0:24:28]: um either forty or forty-three point seven five percent um of the tax on. So in Stockbridge's case, because um the city of Stockbridge collects at eight percent, then they um [0:24:28, 0:24:34]: Send the CVB forty three point seven five percent of the hotel motel tax that is collected. [0:24:35, 0:24:55]: Um, while as they retain they retain the rest of it, and you retain the rest of it. Um, this also includes short-term rentals, which are Airbnbs and VRBOs. As of July 2021, um, a law went into effect that did require that Airbnb and VRBO collect hotel motel tax just like a hotel does, and they have to [0:24:55, 0:25:05]: to remit it to the cities and the county just like a hotel would do. And then that money is governed under the same law. So basically they just took the existing hotel motel tax law and they um [0:25:05, 0:25:17]: they change the definition of an innkeeper to include those short-term rentals. So that money is then um must be utilized in the same ways and under the same jurisdiction and laws in which the regular hotel motel tax is. [0:25:18, 0:25:38]: Now here's a breakdown of the funding. If it's 5%, just um so you'll see that if you collect under 5%, which the county and the city of Hampton do, then 60% of that hotel motel tax is considered non-restricted. And what that means is that the this money can be used for any legal general fund purpose. It can be [0:25:38, 0:25:58]: used to pay salaries, pay roads, you name it, you can do it as long as it's legal. 40% then is considered restricted. This means that it is required by law to be provided to a private nonprofit set up for the promotion of tourism and it can only be used for what's called TCT or tourism conventions and trade shows. [0:25:58, 0:26:03]: from that earlier slide that we saw. That means that promotion of tourism conventions and trade shows. [0:26:03, 0:26:08]: Now if you collected eight percent, which is what Stockbridge does, then you'll see here's the breakdown. [0:26:09, 0:26:10]: Is there a question? [0:26:11, 0:26:31]: No, go right ahead, please. Okay, sorry. Um, so if um if you're collecting at 8%, then you'll see that 37 and a half percent are considered non-restricted. This um means that again, those monies can be used for any legal fund purpose. And then 18.75% is considered restricted, but it still stays with the city. [0:26:31, 0:26:51]: But instead of general operating expenses, this money is restricted in what is called tourism product development or TPD money. It can only be used for specific tourism development purposes, such as your amphitheater or enhancements to the conference center, those kinds of things, anything that enhances or creates a visitor experience. [0:26:52, 0:27:11]: And then 43 and a half, 43.75% is then um considered restricted for tourism conventions and trade shows promotion, and then has to go to that designated nonprofit set up for that purpose. So that's how it breaks down for the city of Stockbridge. And to use some real numbers, um, City of Stockbridge, um [0:27:12, 0:27:22]: The CVB received about$210,000 from the city of Stockbridge for 2021. And so extrapolating that number out, we can um do some rough math that says that. [0:27:22, 0:27:39]: In 2021, the city of Stockbridge had about$180,000 of that non-restricted money that's considered, you know, any legal purpose, and then about$90,000 that was considered restricted for tourism product development for purposes, whereas the Miss EVB. [0:27:39, 0:27:45]: uh bringing into about 271,000 of total hotel motel tax the city um retained last year. [0:27:47, 0:27:48]: And [0:27:48, 0:28:08]: So then if we um kind of look at a pie chart of how the budget for the Convention and Visitors Bureau breaks down, you'll see that each of these pie pieces is a different color. The gray piece at the bottom um has is 25%. That's the city of Stockbridge. That represents um the city of Stockbridge contribution or makeup of our overall budget. [0:28:08, 0:28:25]: Um the city of Locust Grove is at 37% at that or orange piece, city of excuse me, Henry County is 36, and then Hampton is that blue slice at the top with 1%. So that's kind of how our overall budget breaks down. We um have not quite equal thirds. [0:28:26, 0:28:30]: if you will, of budget, um, but um we represent everybody. [0:28:31, 0:28:51]: And um we represent a total of 30 hotels as well as a bed and breakfast included in that number. Um and we are still working on how best to represent and work with our short-term rentals since there's not an easy um to access list of all of those properties and or contacts. But those are gonna be an important piece, I think, as we move forward. [0:28:51, 0:28:53]: as those collections continue. [0:28:53, 0:28:58]: And I think the city of Stockbridge collects from five hotels along with that bed and breakfast. [0:29:00, 0:29:20]: So if you want again some just some real numbers of kind of how that number breaks down and what um benefit we receive from being part of a collective organization. Um so here is um kind of a breakdown if we were if the city was trying to replicate the um program that the CVB currently operates without the [0:29:20, 0:29:40]: Additional resources provided by the other cities. And so we take salaries and benefits, occupation expenses. This means anything that's not salaries and benefits, copiers, phone systems, computer, that kind of thing. And then our website, you have this is not to set up a new website, this is just to maintain an existing one. [0:29:40, 0:30:00]: to make sure it is SEO friendly, to purchase servers, domains, SSL certificates, all that kind of thing. And then our visitors guide, which currently is a 68-page magazine-style visitors guide, seven digital billboards, and then a robust digital imprint campaign as long as as well as a media and PR campaign. So all of those things [0:29:59, 0:30:11]: things. You'll see those represented in a dollar figure on the right hand side. Salaries and benefits and occupation expenses account for just one per per person versus the three that the CVB currently has. So there is also um [0:30:12, 0:30:13]: Um [0:30:13, 0:30:25]: We get a lot more access and resources with having three people because we can have people that really specialize in their areas and do really specific things for our partners and for our cities. [0:30:26, 0:30:31]: So here's just a kind of a rundown of some of the highlights of the the program of work for 2021. [0:30:32, 0:30:43]: We as I mentioned we have a a beautiful visitor's guide. The cover here is our 2022 visitors guide. Um and um with our one of my favorite pictures of the [0:30:43, 0:30:48]: Uh Stockbridge Lakes Bed and Breakfast. I just feel like that's such a calming, beautiful image and perfect for where we are. [0:30:48, 0:31:08]: Going into 2020, we hope that that's kind of where people want to be. Um, so in each publication, each magazine, you will have a there is a spread for each city. The content and the images are provided by the city, and we use those city colors as the tabs on the visitor's guide, and then throughout the magazine you will see that when I [0:31:08, 0:31:28]: restaurant is in the city of Stockbridge, it's highlighted in yellow or your kind of your yellow pink, excuse me, your pink, um kind of pinkish coral color to represent um that that's a the location in the city of Stockbridge. We distribute these through um those hotel brochure racks all the way from Stockbridge to the Florida line. And we also distribute these [0:31:28, 0:31:44]: in the Georgia Welcome Centers in special racks that were created by Barn Beautiful. We did that in four racks this year, and it was so successful that we've expanded it to eight racks for this year. And through that program, we were able to distribute almost 40,000 visitors guide. [0:31:44, 0:31:51]: Um the program just was so, so successful. Like so we ordered instead of doing thirty thousand and having to reprint an additional 10. [0:31:51, 0:31:57]: We um ordered fifty thousand this year and we'll with a budget to potentially um [0:31:57, 0:31:58]: Um [0:31:58, 0:32:15]: print more with more if we need them. Um so we're excited about that. And just these are some cop content, excuse me, some emails from the visitor center managers. I don't know if you can really see those, but this is what those racks look like. They do have um they are the custom barn wood and um [0:32:15, 0:32:35]: Ontaria, who is the manager at that center, says that the spot really is a hot spot and that they move like hot cakes and that the repurposed barn would display really brings people to their counter and it lets them tell our per partner's story and that they're telling our story to everybody that'll listen. [0:32:35, 0:32:48]: themselves um are just very conversation pieces, which is what the welcome centers want. They want an opportunity to talk to people, they want an opportunity to share what they know and um [0:32:48, 0:33:08]: We have hosted um several well somebody from at least every center, two people from every center for a um study tour. So they they've been to Henry County, they've been to Barn Beautiful, they've talked to Greg, they've walked around his shop. And so when somebody comes up to them and says, tell me about this brochure rack, tell me about Henry County, what is this, they can do that. Um [0:33:08, 0:33:12]: So that was really exciting. And again, said that we're just um we. [0:33:12, 0:33:16]: Could not keep brochures in these racks last year. Um, so we've [0:33:16, 0:33:25]: partnered with a distribution company so that we can keep um keep guides going. And they asked for 24 boxes right off the bat this year so that they could keep it going. [0:33:26, 0:33:42]: Um, in advertising, we have three permanent billboard locations last year that were digital. Um, and we added two additional spots as part of an Explore Georgia marketing grant. Um, and we had city billboards rotating on these. So this is an example of what the city of Stockbridge's board looks like. [0:33:42, 0:34:01]: And these were um we had them um from Marietta and um all the way down into Henry County. And these are currently still rotating um as part of our general general campaign. We have other boards that do rotate in, but all of our city boards are um rotating as well. So if you're driving, you probably will see these. [0:34:03, 0:34:06]: Um, and we've expanded that campaign to seven this year. So we have seven billboards now. [0:34:07, 0:34:27]: And then here's just examples of some of our digital and our print advertising. The large ad on the right is a print ad that was in Atlanta style weddings. And then you'll see our digital ads that were in various and other publications as well, really kind of covering the gamut of what we what we can advertise. And here's some additional print ads. [0:34:27, 0:34:43]: And um I will say that the ad with the grandfather and his grandsons fishing at Lake Bit Panola is in the straight, was in the state travel guide last year. And um it is about$15,000 for that ad. It's a two-thirds page ad. [0:34:43, 0:35:03]: And it can um I love that size because there's always copy on that page so that nobody's just flipping through it because it's just an ad. They're stopping, they're reading that copy as well. We're only able to afford to buy um that large of an ad because of our collective buying power that we have as being a collective organization. Um and then [0:35:03, 0:35:09]: And these are just some additional options of billboards, excuse me, not billboards on of print ads that we had done last year. [0:35:10, 0:35:12]: We also um have [0:35:13, 0:35:13]: Um [0:35:13, 0:35:33]: a very robust video marketing campaign, digital campaign that we ran um last year and are continuing into this year because of the results that we saw. So we had over 467,000 video, Stockbridge video specific ads that were served either through YouTube, Connected TV, or over the top TV. [0:35:33, 0:35:53]: You've heard them probably called CTV or OTV. These are things like either Hulu or in-stream content or anything that streams off of your connected TV, your live TV, via your phone, those kinds of things. And we had more than 38, excuse me, 382,000 of these videos that were completely. [0:35:53, 0:36:02]: viewed all the way from beginning to end with over 200 clicks to the City of Stockbridge's specific content, either their city page or their itinerary page on our website. [0:36:03, 0:36:23]: And then we also have digital specific ads. And what we did last year that really proved successful that we're moving into again this year is that we looked at each of our cities and we said, okay, what are the things that they have that are really unique, that are really um special and unique for them? What do they have a lot of? Is it history? [0:36:23, 0:36:43]: History, is it food, is it shopping? And then we tailored ads to specific cities that had proven to be high performing cities for those, for that particular city. So Stockbridge's cities may look a little bit different than who we target for Hamptons or for Henry Counties. And so in this ad, you can see it's an ad for the history that Stopburg's. [0:36:43, 0:37:01]: Bridge has, particularly the Floyd Chapel, and these types of ads. So the left one's a mobile, the middle one that you see there, that's a what it looks like on display on desktop. And we had more than 800,000 of these that were impressions or views, people that were they were times they were served or shown. [0:37:01, 0:37:10]: and over 300 and excuse me, 3,200 link clicks or they clicked on these ads to go to our StockBridge specific content on our site to learn more. [0:37:11, 0:37:20]: And for our website, um, these are just two, you can just see these two screen captures. It's hard to do justice to a website um in a presentation like this, but [0:37:20, 0:37:40]: The um one with the map that you see that's our Stockbridge um specific city page. And then the middle is our itinerary that we did. We have an itinerary for each of our cities, and so the top number you'll see the 114 sessions. That is our total site traffic, and then the city specific traffic is below it. So um this day well spent [0:37:40, 0:37:45]: in Stockbridge and the city page, that's where all of our ads landed. [0:37:45, 0:38:05]: We did change um to the day well spent in Stockbridge to the itineraries in September of last year and they really performed very well. And so in fact that the day well spent in Stockbridge was the second most visited page on our site last year with um two point excuse me, two minutes and 17 seconds on that page uh spent on the page. Those are really, really great numbers. [0:38:05, 0:38:05]: Yeah. [0:38:06, 0:38:12]: And from PR and a media standpoint, we do host travel writers. We have a um a page on the um [0:38:13, 0:38:33]: Georgia press room that people can pull um photos and information from. And so last year we had 83 published results for an earned media value of$1.65 million. And what that means is that if we had to go out and buy that kind of ad space and those types of magazines, publications are on those websites, it would have cost. [0:38:33, 0:38:37]: us about$1.6 million in order to do it, but we didn't, we got it as earned. [0:38:38, 0:38:58]: Um, and that accounted for about 172 million impressions. So, what you see here on the right is just um one example of that. We had a writer that came in in October on a press trip and she wrote this amazing article about our bushytail art trail, um, which I'll talk about in just a minute. And it really was a fantastic article that talked about. [0:38:57, 0:39:17]: about the scroll table, about um how they were made by Barn Beautiful, how they were gonna be hung at local places like the Stockbridge Amphitheater. And so just it was a really great article from that particular trip. Just some other examples of impressions and how important media can be in various ways. [0:39:17, 0:39:33]: Leslie Peterson is a writer we had on a press trip in 2015 and we've had a really great relationship since then. And she reached out and said, I'm doing a spot for Good Day Atlanta and I'd love to include Henry County. What are some free and affordable things that you can do in Henry County for spring break? [0:39:33, 0:39:53]: And so she talked about us on uh Good Day Atlanta. And um that had about 3.5 million media impressions and was worth about$36,000 in estimated value. And she mentioned places like Rum Creek and our Bishetil Art Trail, which is just a really great um section. And then we had a guy we hosted in January, his name [0:39:53, 0:40:13]: is Bill Cleveland and he is actually from St. Louis. He was doing a road trip through um from St. Louis to Florida and he stopped in Henry. We um did a lot of different things. He toured um Barn Beautiful, interviewed Greg, and then he did a video that then aired on um a TV show news program. It was [0:40:13, 0:40:15]: was a news program in um Iowa. [0:40:16, 0:40:36]: And um I love this post. I saw that um two days after it aired, a lady from Iowa had was coming to Rockdale to visit her um a friend and had seen the piece and wanted to visit Greg and um Barn Beautiful and called specifically to see if they were going to be open and they were and between her and her friend they spent$800. So this is just a [0:40:36, 0:40:41]: one of those amazing examples of how um media can really drive um [0:40:42, 0:40:43]: The um [0:40:45, 0:40:51]: the the actual spending of a visitor, not just to them to be there, but to come and to spend money. So it's just a great example of that. [0:40:51, 0:41:11]: In addition to all the advertising that we do, we also really work with our partners to make sure they're equipped and that they're recognized for what they do for the industry. So we do that in a couple of different ways. We really feel like it's beneficial for our partners to know each other and to cross-promote each other. So we do that with our hospitality mixers. We invite all of our partners to come out to a local [0:41:11, 0:41:17]: attraction and they get to know each other and really seeing some great relationships built out of that. [0:41:18, 0:41:23]: We have conversations continued, which are an extension of our diversity, equity, and inclusion training program. [0:41:23, 0:41:43]: We do quarterly partner promotions. And this is really where Jana, who's our partner relations manager, partners with a local business. It could be a restaurant, it could be an attraction. And she goes out along with the owner of that business, the manager of that business to the hotels, takes the hotels like a little gift and says, Hey, I am Lisa with Rum. [0:41:43, 0:42:03]: Creek. Here are some free, you know, driving range passes. We'd love to have you or your guests come visit us. So it just really builds those relationships and those connections. We also do monthly customer service awards. So you'll see this is a gentleman at Rock and Roll Sushi on Hudson Bridge who got the customer service award. We look through all of the reviews, finding people who are doing good work. [0:42:03, 0:42:11]: that we can recognize because we all know that the last two years particularly have been really challenging. And so we want to make sure we're calling out that good work. [0:42:11, 0:42:22]: And then we also have a tourism marketing grant that we put into place so that our partners can help to elevate themselves as well, providing them additional opportunities for marketing. [0:42:23, 0:42:37]: We launched two new training programs, one of which was a customer service training program. So your own Christy Dean from Drip Through Coffee did an incredible job with this presentation. She worked with us to put together a [0:42:37, 0:42:56]: really great introductory training program for it we can show to our partners it's free. They can do it online or we can do it in person and facilitated. And it's about 15 to 20 minutes online or facilitated. It takes a little bit longer. It's just it's been really great. We've had um a little over a hundred, 120 people that have gone through that program. [0:42:57, 0:43:17]: And um we also launched a diversity, equity, and inclusion training program that was called Hospitality for All. And it is a five-part um program that went through five different topics with um speakers that were experts in each of these um areas. And then there's a quiz at the end to make sure that that information kind of was really retained. [0:43:18, 0:43:25]: Um and we did our first kind of pilot class last year and are rolling out our second class very soon. [0:43:25, 0:43:29]: And in social media, we do um we maintain um [0:43:30, 0:43:47]: all of the Facebook, Instagram, Twitter. We continue to rotate to make sure that we're getting all of our events, all of our cities promoted, all of our attractions. Leo joined our team in January and has really hit the ground running and has done an amazing job. So if you haven't had a chance to meet him, reach out. I'd encourage you to do that. [0:43:47, 0:44:07]: We also had a couple of new fund initiatives. We um had coloring sheets. So in addition to those um brochure racks at the welcome centers, we also gave all of the welcome centers these custom coloring sheets. So you'll see that each coloring sheet for each of the different cities that we have: Floyd Chapel, Southern Belt Farm Peaches, Helicopters at Army Aviation, and a Tiger. [0:44:07, 0:44:27]: From Noah's Ark, and they had activities on the back. We also gave them branded crayons. Um, and you'll see here's a little note from Rebecca. If you can read it, it says that these are also flying off the shelf. The visitors love them between the welcome centers. Um, and we gave them away at the Atlanta Motor Speedway for race weekend and um. [0:44:28, 0:44:40]: We also had a coloring contest, just all of the things we had about 1300, 13,000 that were given away last year. And we've ordered more and are continuing it, spanning it to all the different welcome centers for this year as well. [0:44:41, 0:45:01]: And then this is the Bushy Tale Art Trail. We launched it last year. We have 18 locations currently, and we'll probably have about 30 before the end of the year. And what it looks like a really kind of simple little squirrel table, but what it is is it's a public art initiative. We have seen tremendous feedback results, people, the way. [0:45:01, 0:45:03]: website is just so [0:45:04, 0:45:24]: The so long, people are spending so long on the website where all these tables are posted, the artist information is posted, and it's a trail. They can go from one location to the next and it's a countywide initiative. We have them at the Speedway. We're gonna have one posted at the amphitheater. Um, one of the we just put one two weeks ago at Stockbridge Lake. So they're just really all over. [0:45:24, 0:45:37]: the county a place that people can go and visit take their picture with them and just have a fun um a kind of a fun experience but also really elevate the look of um artist and henry give them a chance to kind of show off their talent so [0:45:37, 0:45:45]: Um, we're really excited and love that program. Um, and but with that, um fun way to end it. Are there any questions for me? [0:45:46, 0:45:58]: Well, first of all, Laura, uh thank you for the presentation. Uh very informative in this aspect and covering all the gambit of from soup to nuts in a sense. But before we go to the council, I want to ask uh Mr. Henning, do you have anything you want to add at this time, sir? [0:46:00, 0:46:07]: Uh thank you, Mr. Mayor and excuse me, and city council. Uh I would like to Laura, could you go back to slide thirty-three, I believe? [0:46:11, 0:46:13]: Yeah, uh I'm sorry, one more. What go go forward one. [0:46:14, 0:46:18]: The uh the DEI, the uh hospitality for all. [0:46:19, 0:46:31]: Could you share with us, I I believe you said that there were five different sections when we look at the DEI initiative for our travelers. Could you tell us those five uh different segments that that we covered in that, please? [0:46:32, 0:46:44]: Yeah, so the one you're looking at on the screen is um called The Impact of Culture, Custom Consumerism, Capitalism, and Customer Service from Dr. Ansley Booker. And um it really talks about the history of um [0:46:44, 0:46:45]: The [0:46:45, 0:46:45]: Uh [0:46:46, 0:46:50]: African American community in um America and kind of the [0:46:50, 0:46:53]: implications of what that means um [0:46:53, 0:46:54]: On today. [0:46:54, 0:47:01]: And um then we have a session with Maria Peck on understanding the Latinx community. [0:47:01, 0:47:09]: We have a session with uh Josh Lobner, who works for a company called Design Sensory on accessible tourism. And then [0:47:10, 0:47:12]: One with um [0:47:12, 0:47:18]: Gabrielle and Linda, um Gabriel Clayborn and Linda Herds, Hers. [0:47:18, 0:47:36]: Hertz. Um and they speak on LGBTQ plus community. And then we have Grace Lee from um Eagles Landing, not Eagles Landing, yes, Eagles Landing uh Christian Academy. And she talks about intersectionality and kind of building a um [0:47:36, 0:47:39]: A community that you can kind of be [0:47:40, 0:47:44]: um open and like share and kind of just understanding the differences of people. [0:47:46, 0:47:48]: Thank you. And and so with that. [0:47:49, 0:47:59]: It was more than just a superficial look at diversity, equity, and inclusion within hospitality, but what was some of the feedback you got from your hospitality partners that participated in that? [0:48:00, 0:48:10]: The partners that have participated have just really been um super flattering in their in their um commentary. They felt like [0:48:10, 0:48:12]: We had several people that went through feeling like [0:48:13, 0:48:30]: I know this, I'm good at this, I've got this. And then everybody came out of it saying, I learned something I didn't know about some area, you know, and um was practical. That was something that was really important to all of us was that this program was very practical and that nobody went through it and felt like. [0:48:31, 0:48:35]: Okay, well obviously I have a lot of work to do, but what can I do? Um that they [0:48:35, 0:48:55]: We're like, okay, I know how to make some immediate changes. And this is why I need to make those changes. I think that was really important too, is that we really tie these two programs together under what we're calling the culture of customer service. Um, that if you complete both programs, you actually get a PIN and a certificate that says, I'm a culture of customer service expert or complete. [0:48:55, 0:48:56]: [2936.8, 2950.3]: We really feel that culture of customer service and DEI training really go hand in hand and they're interchangeable, that you really can't give excellent customer service unless you understand the people that you're serving, no matter their background. Um, so [0:49:10, 0:49:15]: That's really um I feel like we were able to to to accomplish that not through [0:49:16, 0:49:36]: this work but these speakers are really just amazing and um we've also um had some feedback nationally that we actually were just um able to present for travel unity which is a international or excuse me a national um organization that works to further dei initiatives um in the tourism space and they ask us to speak at their most recent conference so we've [0:49:36, 0:49:40]: just presented um our work um at that conference and [0:49:40, 0:49:52]: Um, so they just said that nobody kind of in the travel space is is this far along and is kind of doing the work that we're doing right now, that everybody's still kind of in the meeting stages. Um, and that this was kind of [0:49:53, 0:49:58]: revolutionary groundbreaking in in that um in that space because we had [0:49:58, 0:50:04]: actually put something in practice that people were able to take it. And it's free to our partners to participate in. [0:50:04, 0:50:08]: Um so that's been it's been exciting and it's really a fantastic program. [0:50:09, 0:50:17]: Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, City Council. I appreciate the opportunity to share our highlights with you and always appreciate the opportunity to partner with you. [0:50:17, 0:50:19]: Good deal. Thank you, Mr Henney. [0:50:19, 0:50:21]: Councilwoman Gann, go ahead, please. You had a question. [0:50:22, 0:50:26]: Well, not really a question, a comment. Um I've [0:50:26, 0:50:27]: Before now. [0:50:28, 0:50:28]: Um [0:50:29, 0:50:35]: I didn't know exactly what the CBB board did for us, to be honest with you. Um [0:50:35, 0:50:47]: And I personally, now that I have a business, a sm a a business that actually serves um products, not necessarily law, but with um the ice cream coffee shop. [0:50:48, 0:50:51]: Um, can honestly say that the C B B [0:50:51, 0:50:55]: CBB board does an excellent job. [0:50:55, 0:51:13]: at marketing, working hard to train, just coming in and welcoming. Um I was very impressed. I'm impressed with the things that they they continue to do. Um I had a chance to meet with Miss Lucre and actually um really to be honest with you I was [0:51:13, 0:51:19]: When I had questions about Stockbridge, not really about my business, but um [0:51:20, 0:51:27]: I'm impressed with the community's uh the customer service video and the trainings and everything they're trying to promote. [0:51:27, 0:51:29]: Um, across the board, all over the county. [0:51:30, 0:51:33]: And so I right now I really think it's a wonderful program. [0:51:33, 0:51:34]: Um [0:51:34, 0:51:50]: I I looked at some of the um billboards, even the ones that we're utilizing now for our concerts at the amphitheater that are included. I had questions. Um I told her some of my concerns when I initially back in 2014. Um [0:51:50, 0:51:55]: And sixteen, I had real concerns in regards to [0:51:55, 0:52:10]: us giving money over 200,000 or whatever that is over to a board and then we have to sign off and write a grant or whatever and ask permission for them to advertise for us. Those policies have since changed. [0:52:10, 0:52:12]: They've been advertising and [0:52:12, 0:52:18]: Um, you know, like something Miss Bragg said a couple of years ago when we all had a a meeting together. [0:52:19, 0:52:38]: At that time, there wasn't a whole lot to promote, but on the front cover page is the bed and breakfast here in Stockbridge. And throughout some of the spreads and everything they do, they really are emphasizing our businesses. And so I really appreciate it. I'm I'm I cannot tell you, I'm I'm very impressed. [0:52:38, 0:52:39]: So thank you. [0:52:40, 0:52:40]: Okay. [0:52:41, 0:52:50]: Council, any other questions that uh thoughts that you may have? Yes, go ahead, please. Thank you for the presentation, uh Miss Lucer and [0:52:50, 0:52:52]: Mr. Henning, we certainly [0:52:52, 0:52:56]: Appreciate you coming to us and uh understanding that uh [0:52:57, 0:52:58]: It's a partnership effort. [0:52:59, 0:53:01]: I do have some questions, uh [0:53:01, 0:53:03]: about uh a few things that uh [0:53:04, 0:53:05]: We talked about. [0:53:05, 0:53:05]: No. [0:53:06, 0:53:10]: Uh I did notice that the city of McDonald was not coming um [0:53:11, 0:53:12]: contributing anything. [0:53:12, 0:53:13]: At this point. [0:53:14, 0:53:17]: Є ай дусі геві презентством. [0:53:17, 0:53:18]: Uh on [0:53:19, 0:53:32]: uh promotionals and uh in different areas, I guess overlapping between visit and then visit Henry and then with the chamber. So uh my question to them is that um [0:53:32, 0:53:36]: They're getting they seem to be getting a bang for no buck. [0:53:36, 0:53:47]: uh off of this versus the square showing up all the time and they're not contributing anything to uh the overall take of where we're trying to go. So [0:53:47, 0:53:48]: Uh [0:53:48, 0:53:51]: I just want to make sure that we're getting the balance. [0:53:51, 0:54:01]: that we deserve in terms of our overall contribution uh of two hundred uh and ten thousand dollars uh for the previous year. So [0:54:01, 0:54:08]: Uh I guess it's a uh it's uh it's a a line between whether the business is there and then [0:54:08, 0:54:09]: What the city [0:54:10, 0:54:17]: uh contributes. Talk about how that uh that line is because I see a lot of that, but I don't see any contribution. [0:54:18, 0:54:19]: On behalf of the city. [0:54:20, 0:54:21]: Something done. [0:54:21, 0:54:41]: So the city of McDonough has its own hospitality and tourism board. So they have someone that manages all of their tourism marketing. So if you've seen billboards that say visit McDonough or if you've seen ads that say visit McDonough, that is because um they have their own hospitality tourism board that is paying for those with the same [0:54:41, 0:54:48]: I mean their money is, I think they're at 8% as well. And so they're receiving that 43.75%. Um [0:54:48, 0:55:01]: just like you know what Stockbridge is sending to to the Convention of Visitors Bureau. And with that money they're then buying um Bill Wards or whatever other promotions that they they see fit for the city of McDonough. [0:55:02, 0:55:03]: Um [0:55:03, 0:55:16]: Right. And that's what I'm saying. I would think that we would see a greater representation of us because of that very fact that they have their own marketing organization. So I would think we would see a lot more of us and Hampton. [0:55:16, 0:55:21]: And uh locus grove who are actually contributing a line share of the money. [0:55:21, 0:55:23]: Well, I I think that [0:55:23, 0:55:26]: Um I think that the McDonna [0:55:26, 0:55:33]: attractions and and hotels that you see in the visitor's guide are those that are in unincorporated. [0:55:33, 0:55:46]: uh Henry counties. So like Southern Belfarm, um, some of those that are McDonough addresses, but are not within the city limits. And so the city limits is the visit is visit McDonough, but anything outside of [0:55:47, 0:55:55]: City limits. So anything from Hampton, Locust Grove, Stockbridge, obviously, but then also the unincorporated areas within Henry County. [0:55:55, 0:55:57]: Are re are represented by the C B D. [0:55:58, 0:56:04]: Well well certainly. I just see a lot of the square pictures and I guess it's like I see a representation of where [0:56:04, 0:56:11]: Uh they're trying to go with that. But thank you uh for that explanation. And again, we just want to make sure that. [0:56:11, 0:56:12]: Uh we're getting [0:56:12, 0:56:14]: Just do a so uh some [0:56:15, 0:56:16]: Representation. [0:56:16, 0:56:18]: And I thank you for the [0:56:18, 0:56:21]: Uh, presentation on diversity and inclusion. [0:56:22, 0:56:27]: Let's talk about your diversity and inclusion. So at the chamber itself, how many employees do you have? [0:56:28, 0:56:29]: Mr Mr. [0:56:30, 0:56:31]: We have something, sir. [0:56:31, 0:56:34]: You have seven. So how many minority employees do you have? [0:56:35, 0:56:37]: I have [0:56:37, 0:56:38]: There are [0:56:38, 0:56:40]: For women. [0:56:41, 0:56:44]: There are currently two African American. [0:56:45, 0:56:51]: And unfortunately, um I I'm don't have anybody that is uh uh differently abled. [0:56:51, 0:56:56]: or of uh Hispanic descent. I do have one that represents LGBTQ. [0:56:57, 0:57:01]: Okay, so out of the seven you have two who are minorities? [0:57:01, 0:57:04]: I would disagree with you, sir, respectfully. [0:57:05, 0:57:17]: Um I would say that I have one. Um, you know, I I I I have a pretty good one I'm just asking, I don't know the answer to it. I would say that I have two that are uh of African American. [0:57:17, 0:57:20]: Okay. Okay. But I also have four women. [0:57:20, 0:57:25]: Okay. I have I have I have a I have a pretty good representation within the [0:57:26, 0:57:29]: the diversity, equity, and inclusion. I'm at I'm not perfect, but we are working there. [0:57:30, 0:57:34]: Certainly, uh you know, it's always a work in progress in terms of where we're trying to go. [0:57:35, 0:57:42]: uh in that so uh my definition was like again was was based on race so let's um [0:57:42, 0:57:47]: Miss uh Luca, you how many people are with the visitor Henry County visitors in [0:57:48, 0:57:49]: Tourism Europe. [0:57:49, 0:57:50]: Three. Good. [0:57:51, 0:58:00]: But we're inclusive of what um Mr. Henning said. So that total seven includes all of your three there. Okay. It does. So so in your department, how many? [0:58:00, 0:58:03]: Uh minorities are in your department. They visit him. [0:58:03, 0:58:05]: We have two women and one African American. [0:58:06, 0:58:12]: Okay, so you have one one African American in this department. Okay, okay. [0:58:12, 0:58:21]: Okay. All right. Well, thank you uh for those numbers. And again, always this is a a per a work uh in progress as the city has. [0:58:21, 0:58:25]: uh supplier diversity policy uh in place to make sure that we get [0:58:26, 0:58:27]: uh representation [0:58:27, 0:58:30]: Uh as well. You did mention [0:58:30, 0:58:34]: About the Airbnbs being purporting [0:58:34, 0:58:41]: uh or required to pay the tax. Is that a self-reporting requirement or is our Airbnb [0:58:41, 0:58:48]: uh acting as the pass-through to get the uh to get that information and does the city have to seek it? [0:58:49, 0:59:09]: They should have contacted you. Airbnb and VRBO was required as of July 1st to have all of their payment systems in place so that they were with they took any payments after July 1st, that they were inclusive of those taxes and they were also responsible to reaching for reaching. [0:59:09, 0:59:24]: reaching out to all of the different entities to facilitate those distributions. So you should be receiving those. And if you are not, then I would recommend you talk to the Department of Community Affairs. [0:59:25, 0:59:43]: Okay. So uh uh again what I'm saying is that I want to understand from the business model side. Maybe I just didn't hear it, is that is Airbnb collecting the fee that way and then passing it on to the city? Or is there uh how's that work? I I mean is [0:59:43, 0:59:49]: Um I don't know if I'm phrasing that right to make sure it's Airbnb, just like with the hotel when they collect the tax. [0:59:50, 1:00:08]: There's a line on there that says this is what that's for. Uh these vendors, is Airbnb receipt, include this in the receipt that the customer received? It does. Yes, sir. Okay. Awesome. That's uh that's great. Now, the other question that I have to ask is this, it's just the there's there's [1:00:08, 1:00:13]: Uh I want to make sure that I understand and I explain this correctly. On Friday. [1:00:13, 1:00:17]: We were at a groundbreaking for sweet Charlie's. It was beautiful. [1:00:18, 1:00:20]: That's a part of what the city does. [1:00:20, 1:00:24]: Uh that business, I did not see a representative from the chamber there. [1:00:24, 1:00:25]: Is there a requirement? [1:00:26, 1:00:29]: To be a member of the chamber, to be featured. [1:00:29, 1:00:30]: Uh and visit Henry. [1:00:32, 1:00:52]: No, visit Henry. Um we are geographically based. We are not a membership-based organization. Um we do depend greatly on our um partners like yourself letting us know when maybe there's a new business opening and that maybe falls within that umbrella. We do have a partner relationship. [1:00:52, 1:00:58]: manager who tries to go out and to meet with new businesses and to um [1:00:59, 1:01:05]: um you know encourage them to participate to get them listed on our website um but [1:01:05, 1:01:06]: Um we are [1:01:06, 1:01:10]: you know, a small staff. And so if there are new businesses opening that um [1:01:10, 1:01:16]: that we we think we should be a part of or that we think that um would fit. We would love those recommendations. [1:01:17, 1:01:30]: Well what what I'm saying is that I would like from my own point of view to see somebody there at these ribbon cuttings, at the city ribbon cuttings on behalf of uh, you know, um visit Henry. [1:01:30, 1:01:48]: Uh councilman sir, if if we if we if we could work with your city clerk or whoever puts those together and they let us know, we'd be happy to participate, whether it's the chamber or the CVB, but we would have representation there. Um I apologize, but we were not aware of the activity on Friday. [1:01:49, 1:01:58]: Okay, so you were you you were not aware of the activity. So going forward, we'll make sure that you're aware of this because it I just wanna make sure that [1:01:58, 1:02:03]: We're we're contributing two hundred and ten thousand dollars on behalf of all of these businesses. [1:02:03, 1:02:13]: whether they're members or not. And then if you come there and then they're not a member, it might be a great opportunity to introduce them to what you're able to do. [1:02:14, 1:02:27]: To create a a greater partnership because and from my point of view, we contributed two hundred and ten thousand dollars on behalf of every business in Stock Reach. So that is the point on that. And my final point. [1:02:28, 1:02:48]: Is this in terms of where we're trying to go uh in terms of the city to be to project the image of a modern, thriving suburb? I certainly appreciate uh the focus on Barn Beautiful, Stockbridge Lakes, but at the certain time there needs to be a broader picture. [1:02:48, 1:02:51]: that covers everything that we do. [1:02:51, 1:02:58]: as a modern thriving suburb that's twenty minutes or twenty-five minutes from the busiest airport in the world. [1:02:58, 1:02:59]: having that uh [1:03:00, 1:03:11]: be somewhat of a a feature. And I went I took a little bit of time upon myself to kind of flip through the different sections. I guess I don't know unless it was uploaded overnight. I did not see [1:03:12, 1:03:18]: uh any features in terms of where the city was, in terms of the amphitheater component being added. And I'd like to know how [1:03:19, 1:03:23]: you're gonna add that or if maybe you have added it or uh overnight. [1:03:23, 1:03:43]: Not overnight, but if you go to our website, I think you may have you may have um an old copy. Um our 2022 visitors guide um on page two or three, um, that's the city stockbridge page, and it is a feature, has a um a beautiful picture of the amphitheater. And then if you go to the activities and um events. [1:03:43, 1:04:03]: events page or activities and things to do page. Then it is a gorgeous picture of the amphitheater with one of your concerts in mid-swing. So we've made a very concerted effort to include the the the amphitheater. It's a fantastic asset for the community and we wanted to be sure to highlight it. You will also see [1:04:03, 1:04:06]: in the calendar of events that we have listed. [1:04:07, 1:04:24]: that there are shows taking place at the amphitheater. When we went to press, we did not have the full schedule. So we did um just note in there that um the full schedule could be found at stockbridgeamp.com. So that is noted um in there as well. So we've made um [1:04:24, 1:04:43]: We tried very, very hard with this year's guide to be as inclusive of a lot of different types of um businesses and or and events as possible. Again, going back to that curator example, we want to make sure that there's a type of art in there for everybody, for anybody who's interested in art, um, whether it's um [1:04:43, 1:05:03]: know modern art or classic art. So those you'll see that if you go to our website to uh visit henrycounty georgia.com. You just scroll down just a little bit, you'll see the cover that I showed you with um from Stockbridge Lakes. You can click get my guide and then you can view a digital copy of the guide. It's been um posted on our site since March. And [1:05:03, 1:05:10]: And it should load quickly. It's really a great, easy, and then all the links also work. It's a click-through book. [1:05:10, 1:05:17]: Well, certainly I appreciate that. And I'll close by saying this. Obviously, we spent twenty-three million dollars on the amphitheater. [1:05:18, 1:05:20]: It is part of the LCI plan. [1:05:20, 1:05:22]: featuring downtown. [1:05:22, 1:05:25]: In that particular area, and certainly. [1:05:25, 1:05:28]: Uh, whatever you can do to help us promote that, I would think that. [1:05:28, 1:05:32]: That would won't be something that we want the council to spend a lot of money there. [1:05:32, 1:05:52]: We got the STEM school coming there with the highlights coming on tomorrow. So downtown would be a key in getting that information out and just making sure that the package is inclusive of the entire picture that we're trying to point and that we're working together collaboratively on that. Thank you. [1:05:52, 1:05:54]: And I'll just make two points, um, councilman. [1:05:55, 1:05:59]: So first is that we are currently working with um [1:05:59, 1:06:16]: um your your team um and we have billboards that ran for the um show that just happened and we also have already have the art for the show that's coming up so we are already um putting those boards in rotation on our existing boards and i will note also that [1:06:16, 1:06:23]: Um, we do have a set of you know budget that we set aside every year that you can say, I would like to um promote. [1:06:24, 1:06:44]: this show or this event. But you as a group, as uh whoever in your organization you did dictate just needs to let us know what those um what that funds are used for. You can use it for billboards if you'd like. You can use it for print ads, radio ads to promote the concert series. You can do it as an individual show or as just a promotion [1:06:44, 1:07:01]: of the concert series that's coming and kind of name of several of the shows. Those are all opportunities that are open to you that we do have um built into the budget, just waiting for you to kind of tell us um what you want to do. And those that that money that's set aside to do that is um [1:07:01, 1:07:12]: you can you know do it under the City of Stockbridge's blank branding uh specifically. And that's in addition to what we are already doing to promote the shows through other channels. [1:07:13, 1:07:27]: And then uh again, I'm sorry, you just every time you speak, you bring up another thing that I certainly want to talk about. Certainly as uh the invitation to the business exists, the concert would just certainly be the perfect opportunity. [1:07:27, 1:07:30]: For visit Henry to set up a table. [1:07:30, 1:07:37]: Where you got three thousand people in there coming in, like you would do at Atlanta Motor Speedway to make sure that we get [1:07:37, 1:07:40]: uh these messages out. So you're welcome and you're invited. [1:07:41, 1:07:50]: Well we appreciate that. We are certainly working on ways that we can um better utilize and mobilize ourselves. And that would be an excellent, um, an excellent opportunity for us. [1:07:51, 1:08:00]: Councilman Alexander, I want you to know that uh all four of the mayors of the cities uh in in uh Henry County automatically uh board a part of the board of directors for the chamber. [1:08:01, 1:08:21]: And the reason why I'm mentioning that to you and rest of the council, if they didn't know that, I routinely, matter of fact, every month, I very seldom would miss a meeting in in the five years now, one in five years now that I've been the mayor to to attend those those monthly meetings and give a report, a positive report, of course, of what's going on in the city of Stockbridge. But I'm mentioning this because I get [1:08:21, 1:08:39]: Emails on a continuum basis of all the chambers' ribbon cuttings. So I make a concerted effort. If there's a ribbon cutting that the chamber is doing inside the city limits of Stockbridge, I make a point to go to that ribbon cutting, introduce myself, meet that business owner, and also talk to them about. [1:08:39, 1:08:48]: that the city of Startbridge also does a ribbon cutting and try to encourage them to communicate with our staff and vice versa to have an actual Stockbridge ribbon cutting as well. [1:08:49, 1:08:53]: So I I do that routine I have been all this time. So I just want to mention that uh to you. [1:08:53, 1:09:13]: in an aspect. So we try to it's a it's a if I don't forget, but sometimes I I might forget something, but but I normally I don't but I I make sure that I I try to tend those and and talk to those particular small businesses and uh turn them on to our staff to get a an actual city ribbon cutting as well. Just want to mention that. Absolutely. If I would like I said just like you said [1:09:13, 1:09:26]: If they would do that uh in reverse for us uh to do the same thing, I think the partnership will work out uh so much uh better in terms of where we're going. Cause like you said, you're at all of the ribbon cuttings as the representative. [1:09:26, 1:09:33]: for the city. So we certainly want to do that. And again, I can't can't help but depride the city of McDonald. We got a seat. [1:09:33, 1:09:36]: But not not contributing so [1:09:36, 1:09:38]: You know, that's the issue for me. [1:09:38, 1:09:39]: And I want to be clear. [1:09:40, 1:09:51]: Councilman, that the city of McDonough, we do not promote anything in the city. I don't know what ads you're referencing or what you're seeing, but if you're seeing something that [1:09:51, 1:09:52]: Um [1:09:52, 1:09:55]: Is promoting the city or that we're saying [1:09:55, 1:10:00]: The it's not something that the Convention and Visitors Bureau is doing. And I also want to be clear that [1:10:01, 1:10:02]: What the chamber does. [1:10:02, 1:10:07]: is different than what the CBB does, that you can be a member of the chamber. [1:10:07, 1:10:18]: and not be a member of the Convention and Visitors Bureau, as is the case with the City of McDonough. So the chamber does work with and promote um things within the city of McDonough. [1:10:19, 1:10:37]: I would I would like to add though that they don't even need to be members of Henry County to be a member of the Henry County Chamber. They can be outside of Henry County, but doing business in Henry County and still be a member of the chamber. What the chamber does is not what we've addressed in this, and I'd be happy to come back at a later date. [1:10:37, 1:10:46]: But but what the chamber does is completely separate to the point of a separate board and separate financials from what the CVB does. [1:10:48, 1:11:05]: Okay. Thank you. All right. Uh Mayor Pro Tem Thomas, go ahead, please, sir. Thank you. Uh Mr. Henson, it's great to see you again as well. Mrs. Luca, thank you uh for coming and for the presentation. And I try to make this brief. I know we sort of went long there. [1:11:06, 1:11:09]: Um, as you may know, Mrs. Locer, um [1:11:10, 1:11:16]: The city of Stockbridge is converting uh a building into a welcome center. [1:11:16, 1:11:21]: a welcoming center. So based on your experience, um [1:11:22, 1:11:23]: What impact [1:11:24, 1:11:27]: Have you seen and and what relationship [1:11:27, 1:11:47]: uh does the uh convention and visitor bureau have with um the various welcoming center i know there's one in mcdonna i'm not sure about the other cities but um what what is your experience and what is the impact uh just based on your experience they will have uh [1:11:47, 1:11:51]: in the city of Starkridge and promoting uh our downtown. [1:11:54, 1:11:57]: I'd say it varies from city to city. Um [1:11:59, 1:12:19]: Um Roswell just closed their welcome center and they're completely remote and they have a mobile welcome center. Um the city of Marietta has their welcome center in a train depot and right in the middle of downtown. So they're obviously and they have, you know, the great food market and the strand theater. So they're right there in the middle of you know, already. [1:12:19, 1:12:22]: people coming and visiting. So I think that [1:12:22, 1:12:42]: Um, you know, that impact can can be different depending on what the city city is. And I can see that um, you know, with your with your businesses in downtown or your access to the to the amphitheater, having a welcome center there um could have benefits. Um, but I you know feel like a lot of it's it is specific to the [1:12:42, 1:12:46]: area into the foot traffic that you already have. [1:12:46, 1:12:55]: People do still won't print pieces. They also want a chance to go to the bathroom. Are you gonna have a public restroom there where people can go to the bathroom if it's a welcome center? [1:12:55, 1:13:06]: I do know that the City of McDonough has a welcome center, but their visitor center or their excuse me, their Convention Visitors Bureau hospitality board is not located in that building anymore. It's in a separate building. So [1:13:07, 1:13:13]: Um, but they still have, you know, somebody that's that's still there to answer questions um that's part of their I think DDA. [1:13:14, 1:13:32]: So everybody kind of does it a little bit differently. Um, I'm not sure if that answered your question at well, I I guess I was trying to go future to see if there if you had any uh planned uh relationship uh with the welcoming center here and start. I I didn't know maybe. [1:13:32, 1:13:44]: um just separate, you know, entities and you just walk in different paths. Um just one, is there any type of relationship or is there any planned uh joint activities or or relationships? [1:13:45, 1:13:46]: I I would say that [1:13:48, 1:14:08]: probably a great time to start that collaborative conversation because I I don't think it's anything that we want and Mayor Ford. I hope you would you would support me in this. It's it's not anything that we would want to see individually undertaken and duplicating efforts. And so if there are opportunities to collaborate, um by all means we would welcome that [1:14:08, 1:14:11]: conversation to figure out how we can support that welcome center too. [1:14:12, 1:14:17]: Thank you. I yield back, Mayor. Thank you. Okay. Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. [1:14:19, 1:14:23]: Uh thank you, Mayor I'll be very brief. Um, I promise. [1:14:23, 1:14:43]: Uh Ms. Lucer, Ms. Henny, I thank you all for your presentation. Being on this council since 2016, I've seen an evolution of your um of the chamber as far as how it advertised the city of Stockbridge. And I like the uh, I'm very pleased with the direction you all are going with that. [1:14:43, 1:15:03]: Um I I thank you, uh Mr. Henning, coming in and taking the mantle and and and really putting uh a lot of emphasis on the different areas of the stock bridge, because I think that stock bridge is so unique, it has so many different components to it. And I think that you all are addressing those components. Uh and I agree with my colleagues that in the future that we would if if it would get to give you [1:15:03, 1:15:21]: All a schedule our events uh pertain to the amphitheater, or how will we do that? Because it's not only going to be um a type of bedroom community, type of cultural community, type of historical community, it's also gonna be an entertainment community and uh all these components coming together into [1:15:21, 1:15:41]: Sist uh and to sit back and how you guys can formulate that and show from the business of relaxation to the businesses of uh entertainment and all in between. I think that uh you guys are heading in the right direction. So I thank you guys for your presentation. And uh I think that anything that we need to address uh pertaining to that. [1:15:41, 1:15:50]: And pertain to advertising and um and however we need to move forward. Um I think that we will have those meetings. And uh I just appreciate the direction you all are going. Thank you. [1:15:51, 1:15:54]: Thank you, sir. I I that that's a great point. I I guess. [1:15:55, 1:16:15]: Because Laura and I do this every day, that we kind of blur what we do. And so there might be things such as the amphitheater and um you know the the attractions and the different things like and the hotels, obviously, um, that you might see come from the CVB side of the building. Um, but from the business perspective, such [1:16:15, 1:16:34]: such as the STEM high school tomorrow, um, that falls within the the chamber side within our workforce development, some of those other pieces. And so we do try to manage the entire picture of Henry County. It just might come from one or the other of us from time to time, sometimes from both, but usually, you know, one of one or the other of us will will handle that lead. [1:16:35, 1:16:55]: Can I do a quick follow-up, Mayor, if you will? No, yes, sir. Go ahead, please. You know, I I know that uh when you look at the cities that are involved with the chamber, um, such as Locust Grove and uh City of Hampton and City of Stockbridge, um, when you talk about so many businesses that want ribbon cuttings, that want to do this, um, that could be a little cumbersome to be. [1:16:55, 1:17:12]: at all the ribbon cutters and with only seven people and staff, but as much as you can, we appreciate it. And I think and I think the mayor that he's probably at uh most of your ribbon cutters, especially when the interest of stock raised at hand. So I think that we're all going in a good direction. [1:17:14, 1:17:16]: Okay. Miss Barber, do you have any questions at all? [1:17:17, 1:17:19]: Okay, Ms. Gantt, go ahead, please. [1:17:20, 1:17:28]: Just uh uh it sounds like at the end we talked about a little bit and Casmin Alexander had made a point. [1:17:28, 1:17:38]: In regards to ribbon cuttings. And I'm an ambassador for the chamber. So I I get all these emails about what ribbon cuttings are throughout Henry County. However, [1:17:39, 1:17:40]: Um [1:17:41, 1:18:01]: I think that just to make sure, just so everyone knows, maybe the clerk can send over to the CBB board as well as the chamber our ribbon cuttings. Um it probably helps them actually. They get to know what new businesses are coming because what it sounds like is they didn't know about these new businesses. So I would [1:18:01, 1:18:09]: Hope that just like the chamber sends us the information, mayor, like he's well, they send you as a board member and me as an ambassador. Um [1:18:10, 1:18:16]: information of of all of Henry County that in return we would send over to the CVB board. [1:18:17, 1:18:26]: And over to the chamber, hey, these are new businesses that we're doing ribbon cuttings for through the city of Stockbridge. And I think that will solve that issue. [1:18:26, 1:18:27]: All right, I'll tell you what. [1:18:27, 1:18:28]: Mayor. [1:18:28, 1:18:37]: Yes, go ahead, please. I'm certainly happy to do that. The ribbon cuttings currently are being done out of our community development department and [1:18:37, 1:18:57]: So um if those are sent to me, I certainly um will be happy to pass that along. I was gonna say Miss Carter, who's online, needs that it's her part of her subset, it's her part of the department. So she really needs to have the lead on that. I mean it's nothing wrong with whoever's nothing wrong with that's wrong. Nothing wrong with Vanessa as a clerk knowing, and of course the city manager's right here, but really as a subset. [1:18:57, 1:18:59]: [4740.0, 4743.7]: And she's online. So I don't know if you want to say something now, Breca or not. It's up to you. [1:19:04, 1:19:19]: Oh, thank you, Mayor. Yes, uh Councilwoman Gantt, we'll most certainly connect with Laura and her team and the chamber and get everything coordinated because we've got a lot of exciting groundbreakings and ribbon cuttings coming up. [1:19:20, 1:19:20]: So [1:19:21, 1:19:23]: We got you covered. Thank you. [1:19:23, 1:19:24]: Absolutely. [1:19:25, 1:19:33]: All right, council. Everybody's got a chance to speak. Anything else before we let uh Ms. Lucer and Joe Henning go, unless they want to stay hang out a little longer. [1:19:34, 1:19:42]: Yeah, I just want I just want to say the same. I have seen a difference in uh the work, you know. I'm always gonna challenge us to do better on every level. [1:19:42, 1:19:53]: But I certainly have seen a difference uh in the work. I just want you to continue working in that direction and uh we're gonna be and uh you know see things move forward. So thank you. [1:19:53, 1:20:02]: Thank you, sir. I promise you we are continuing to work forward. And and and I'll tell you, I I would respectfully ask you that if you see us not, please give me a call. [1:20:04, 1:20:05]: Outstanding. Okay. [1:20:05, 1:20:12]: Laura and Mr. Henning, so long. Take care. Appreciate the briefing. All right. Thank you. Thank you all very much for your time. We'll move on. Thank you very much. [1:20:13, 1:20:15]: Okay, what we're gonna do, ladies and gentlemen, we've got a public hearing. [1:20:16, 1:20:36]: A variance case uh vr 2022-01 for 727 Beth Page Drive. Natisse Patel, the applicant and owner of a residential lot at 727 Beth Page Drive, parcel ID 051F01220000. Request a [1:20:36, 1:20:56]: variance to reduce the property's rear yard setback from the required 75 feet for a golf course abudding lot to 50 feet to allow for construction of a new single family detached home. The property is located in land lot 17 of District 6 within the Starbury City limits. [1:20:56, 1:21:07]: It comprises lot 14 of the block W within the Unit XI of the Eagles Land uh landing subdivision presented by Miss Uh Carter and uh Linda Logan. Please, ladies. [1:21:09, 1:21:18]: Good evening, Mayor. Um uh thank you so much. Um we've got Linda Logan on the line. And I also if you don't mind, I'd like to introduce our new chief planner. [1:21:18, 1:21:20]: Ryan Anderson to the team. [1:21:21, 1:21:29]: Um he is managing planning and zoning and also GIS. So uh Linda, you can go ahead and uh present. [1:21:30, 1:21:34]: Okay, I didn't know if if Ryan wanted to say anything. [1:21:35, 1:21:48]: Well, I I'll say something. Welcome, Ryan. Welcome to the city of Stockbridge. Appreciate you uh joining the team. I know you're gonna do great things uh while you're here, but you're gonna be here for many, many years, right? Absolutely. Okay. I know it's up to you, sir. You got anything you want to add at this time? [1:21:50, 1:21:52]: You're uh you're you're muted. [1:21:52, 1:21:54]: Unless you want to remain muted. [1:21:55, 1:22:04]: Uh no sir. I thank you for uh appreciate your uh your words and uh yes I'm happy to be here and I look forward to doing some great things. Uh I've been here three weeks now, so uh [1:22:05, 1:22:14]: Uh I'm familiar with this case, um, but it was in progress before I got here. So um that's why Ms. Logan is proceeding with it. But yeah, I'm having a great time by being here. [1:22:14, 1:22:16]: All right, good deal. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. [1:22:17, 1:22:18]: Ms. Logan, go right ahead, please. [1:22:19, 1:22:21]: Okay, I'm gonna share a screen. I have a [1:22:21, 1:22:23]: A PowerPoint presentation here. [1:22:25, 1:22:27]: Okay, everyone can see that. [1:22:28, 1:22:30]: Yes. Yes, we can. Okay. We can. [1:22:31, 1:22:37]: All right, this is a variance for 727 Beth Page Drive. It is in the Eagles Landing subdivision. Um [1:22:39, 1:22:48]: And this is a this is a view of uh Beth Page Drive here, which actually is a boundary between the city and county uh right here in this area. [1:22:48, 1:22:51]: Seven twenty seven is highlighted. You can see that there is a [1:22:52, 1:22:53]: A golf course uh behind it. [1:22:54, 1:22:55]: And um [1:22:55, 1:22:58]: And then some other houses here uh on the west side. [1:22:59, 1:23:01]: And the imp the important thing is to look at [1:23:02, 1:23:04]: The the setbacks that these houses have here. [1:23:04, 1:23:07]: And then there's a uh one up here as well. [1:23:08, 1:23:13]: Uh the case facts. Let me see if I can um hide this um [1:23:14, 1:23:16]: panel on the side. Um [1:23:19, 1:23:21]: I guess not. Go right ahead, please. [1:23:22, 1:23:22]: Moving down. [1:23:23, 1:23:30]: Okay, so uh you mentioned the uh the applicant Netesh Patel, um agent is Fazel Superawala. [1:23:30, 1:23:38]: Um, this is a um uh property has about half an acre, and it's on the north side of Vage Drive. It's wooded level and [1:23:38, 1:23:41]: It's vacant, level and wooded, nothing unusual about it. [1:23:42, 1:23:51]: Um this application did come in before the new DC was adopted, but regardless of zone PD PD plan development because it's part of [1:23:51, 1:23:55]: The approved plat of Eagles Landing subdivision. [1:23:55, 1:24:02]: And the plat for that subdivision requires the 75 foot rear yard setback for golf course, golf course lots. [1:24:03, 1:24:07]: So this applicant wants to reduce his reguard seven setback to seventy five feet. [1:24:08, 1:24:08]: Um [1:24:09, 1:24:10]: And um [1:24:11, 1:24:14]: He he eat to from seventy five to fifty feet. [1:24:14, 1:24:20]: Uh in dis further discussions with him about it, he later submitted a letter in which he agreed. [1:24:20, 1:24:23]: To reduce it to sixty five feet. He wants to build a new home. [1:24:24, 1:24:26]: We posted the sign on March first. [1:24:26, 1:24:27]: Um [1:24:27, 1:24:31]: You see surrounding land uses or existing homes and some undeveloped lots. [1:24:32, 1:24:38]: Most nearby homes have 75 feet and one or two appear to have slightly less than that, 62 to 65. [1:24:39, 1:24:40]: Um [1:24:40, 1:24:41]: Now [1:24:41, 1:24:46]: This is a larger view of the area. I um this is the subject property here. [1:24:46, 1:24:49]: There's a couple other lots that I wanna wanna talk about in the area. [1:24:49, 1:24:51]: Uh as far as a zoning um [1:24:52, 1:24:54]: history of the property. [1:24:55, 1:24:55]: Let's see. [1:24:57, 1:24:58]: Here we go. [1:24:58, 1:24:59]: So um [1:25:00, 1:25:05]: similar activities that have happened in the area over the years in 2011. [1:25:05, 1:25:06]: Hey. [1:25:07, 1:25:10]: A rear yard setback was allowed, but that was for a pool. [1:25:10, 1:25:12]: And then number two. [1:25:12, 1:25:14]: Another property uh [1:25:15, 1:25:17]: was g was allowed a reduction [1:25:17, 1:25:20]: In the rear yard, but that one is outside of the city. [1:25:21, 1:25:24]: Number three, eight forty-five Cog Hill. [1:25:25, 1:25:38]: Um now that in 2019 this application started the Henry County Planning and Zoning. They recommended denial because uh there's a certain required criteria criteria in the zoning code were not met. [1:25:38, 1:25:39]: Um [1:25:39, 1:25:46]: And um, but the city um because the Eagles Landing Property Owners Association approved it. [1:25:46, 1:25:49]: Therefore, um the city then approved it. However [1:25:50, 1:25:52]: property it's remains vacant today. [1:25:52, 1:25:56]: Um now nearby on eight forty two Cog Hill. [1:25:56, 1:25:57]: Um [1:25:57, 1:26:03]: Last year City granted administrative waiver rather than a bearing, but that was because of difficult topography. [1:26:03, 1:26:06]: So really the most similar one is number three here. [1:26:07, 1:26:14]: It's not been built. Uh let me just point out on here. Stand by stand by Linda. Linda, stand by, please. Ms. Alexanne, you have a question? [1:26:14, 1:26:17]: Yeah, l let me ask Mr. Garner a question. [1:26:17, 1:26:18]: No, but [1:26:18, 1:26:19]: Typically [1:26:20, 1:26:23]: And I think Henry County has this staff is allowed to [1:26:23, 1:26:36]: uh absorb a 10 for 10 percent or some type waive administrative waiver. So if they're already down to 65 and we're at 75. [1:26:36, 1:26:40]: That's seven and a half. So we're talking about two point five feet. [1:26:40, 1:26:43]: It basically right now. So [1:26:43, 1:26:50]: I I I I want your take on that because uh we talk they we they the we the requirement is seventy-five. [1:26:50, 1:27:07]: They're down all the way to 65 now. Staff can give an administrative waiver of up to 10%. So that's all that's that's seven and a half. So what is your take on that? Because I I mean we we're talking about such a minimal amount at this point. [1:27:07, 1:27:15]: Could I say something? Um the administrative waiver was because of the um difficult uh topography. [1:27:15, 1:27:17]: We don't have that situation here. [1:27:17, 1:27:18]: So that's why. [1:27:18, 1:27:21]: That when a straight waiver cannot be considered. [1:27:21, 1:27:24]: We have ten f we're talking about ten feet. [1:27:25, 1:27:27]: Ten feet. Is that what I'm talking about? [1:27:28, 1:27:29]: Yeah. Um [1:27:30, 1:27:32]: Country Alexander, you [1:27:33, 1:27:46]: Some plan a lot of planning departments allow for administrative variances or waiver from the requirements at a certain percentage. Um obviously the person you read it, it's the zoning administrator or the director of the department. [1:27:47, 1:27:57]: Um, who's charged with reviewing and approving or denying those use the same criteria whether the property is impacted by its shape, size, or topography. [1:27:57, 1:28:17]: that that doesn't allow for the regular regulations to make the property um buildable or usable in such an extent, um then they go ahead and they'll grant those variants based on those criteria. If those criteria don't exist, then obviously um they won't look at administrative variants. [1:28:17, 1:28:23]: will send it directly to the governing body as a variance to to have them address it through that process. [1:28:25, 1:28:28]: And typically even though you would you would in certain [1:28:28, 1:28:33]: You know, if if it's if it's ten if the request is ten feet and the variance is seven and a half. [1:28:34, 1:28:35]: You know [1:28:36, 1:28:41]: No one with that power will would would approve that extra two, even though it's for the close to two feet. [1:28:41, 1:28:45]: Because once you start with that process, you can't stop. So it's just it's [1:28:46, 1:28:50]: prudent to bring it before the legislative body to have them actually address it. [1:28:50, 1:28:51]: to the variance criteria. [1:28:55, 1:28:56]: Also um [1:28:57, 1:29:01]: Also he's requesting a uh a variance to fifty feet, uh, which is like twenty-five feet. [1:29:03, 1:29:08]: Well, she had mentioned that they had uh negotiated that down to sixty five feet. Is that correct? [1:29:10, 1:29:11]: Let me, if I may. [1:29:12, 1:29:16]: So the original request was for 75 to 50 feet. [1:29:17, 1:29:21]: Mm-hmm. That difference did not allow for administrative variance. [1:29:21, 1:29:27]: And it wasn't until we had already advertised, posted the sign on the property. [1:29:27, 1:29:32]: That the applicant stated, Well, I can maybe try to make it work. [1:29:32, 1:29:36]: But at that time it was already scheduled to be a public hearing before. [1:29:36, 1:29:40]: the Planning Commission and the City Council. [1:29:40, 1:29:53]: So the administrative waiver, like Mr. Gardner stated, wasn't an option because they didn't meet any topographic issues by what was being proposed. [1:29:54, 1:30:01]: So there we're moving forward in this request with the original 75 feet to 50 feet. [1:30:04, 1:30:09]: with sixty five on the table at this point that we know that that would be agreeable. Is that correct? [1:30:10, 1:30:13]: The the applicant is on, I believe is on the line and can speak to that. [1:30:16, 1:30:21]: I had a question. Well we'll stand by a second. The applicant, did you want to address that now, sir? [1:30:21, 1:30:22]: If he stays online. [1:30:24, 1:30:32]: Mayor. Yes, yes. Stand by please. I was just one double check if the Africans online, if you want to address that, I want to give them an opportunity to do that. [1:30:34, 1:30:41]: I okay. If not, go ahead. Um all right. Um uh let's go back to Mr. Blount. He spoke first. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [1:30:42, 1:30:53]: Mayor, I'm I'm almost in agreement. I I understand from the pers uh from the perspective that that it had already been advertised and what was already stated that, you know. [1:30:53, 1:30:58]: Um procedurally we have to move forward with this um [1:31:00, 1:31:10]: uh w with this because it was advertised for this. Uh and I'm gonna uh I would like to know if the app if the applicant is is asking for 65. [1:31:10, 1:31:30]: Um is there any if if we went out there and looked at is there anything that would disturb any property, any land or anything or uh water runoff or anything by giving by changing it to 65? Because it seemed like the community itself is saying they're okay with it. Uh so and now we're doing now we're we can't. [1:31:30, 1:31:40]: can't go into what what he's uh selling for 65 because we advertise this meeting that it's gonna go from 75 to 50, but 65 is thrown out there. [1:31:40, 1:31:52]: Why would um it would the the ground dist would they is there any ground disturbances in this that since you all see y'all went and looked at it of of anything for as uh runoffs or anything like that? Is [1:31:54, 1:32:06]: I'm just trying to it wouldn't appear that that there is council uh councilman Blount uh once we receive a official plan with the whatever is approved by the council. [1:32:06, 1:32:20]: The applicant will have to ensure that they meet the requirements to meet the required mitigation for runoff on the lot. So they will still have to adhere to that. [1:32:20, 1:32:21]: In accordance with the code. [1:32:22, 1:32:23]: That would not change. [1:32:23, 1:32:28]: Well it then it goes back that that if the community is okay with it in the in and it's almost uh [1:32:29, 1:32:40]: uh uh variance changed to he said the sixty five and if the contingency is that that it meets the rec the code requirements of of of the property I'm just [1:32:42, 1:32:42]: Oh. [1:32:43, 1:32:44]: Oh he was [1:32:44, 1:32:54]: He was threatened with uh with a outright denial by staff. Uh staff was considering denial her d deni denying his c request for a twenty-five feet reduction. [1:32:54, 1:32:57]: So he negotiated with staff and that's how we reached sixty five feet. [1:32:58, 1:33:03]: So staff would does staff come with recommendation on it on the on the ten feet difference? [1:33:04, 1:33:06]: Yes, we have recommendations in the staff report. [1:33:07, 1:33:11]: Okay, so we can accept the staff recommendation. [1:33:12, 1:33:13]: Yeah, thank you. [1:33:13, 1:33:17]: You can. My hope is the applicant will be on the line. [1:33:18, 1:33:31]: Go ahead, go ahead, Ms. Carter. Go ahead and finish your statement, please. Ms. Carter. I hope that the applicant will be on the line to be able to provide some um input um on the call, but he may not he may not have made it onto the to the call. [1:33:31, 1:33:34]: Okay. I'm not seeing the applicant. Okay. [1:33:35, 1:33:36]: Okay, Miss Gantt, go ahead, please. [1:33:38, 1:33:45]: Um now that um Councilman Blount pretty much summed up some of the questions that I had. [1:33:45, 1:33:50]: And I wanted to know what the staff recommendation was for this particular property. Um [1:33:51, 1:34:07]: If if I do have a concern that the applicant is not online. So if there are some questions that we need to ask or, you know, some things we need to make sure of. But I I personally think that we we can go by staff recommendation. [1:34:08, 1:34:10]: Okay. Mr. Gardner, do you [1:34:11, 1:34:16]: Continue with my presentation. Stand by a second, please. Mr. Gardner, you're unmuted. Did you have something you need to say, sir? [1:34:17, 1:34:19]: No no so, no sirve. Okay. [1:34:20, 1:34:25]: Go ahead, Ms. Logan. We can end the presentation and go ahead and move forward, Mayor. I mean we just [1:34:26, 1:34:27]: At this point. [1:34:27, 1:34:38]: is it we we just kind of tying up time we could we we got the general gist of it we had the notes on it i think we just we I'm I'm willing to accept the sixty five feet so we can move [1:34:38, 1:34:42]: Mayor, I I do want to hear the staff's recommendation though. [1:34:42, 1:35:02]: I want to hear what exactly is their recommendation. Recommendation, okay. It's it's also a public hearing. Yep, it is a I have it is a public hearing. So I so we can't vote on this just yet. But anyway, um Ms. Logan, uh continue on and and emphasize, I guess, uh or Ms. Carter, the staff recommendation, how you came about that. [1:35:02, 1:35:10]: Whatever the case is. Right. So the staff recommendation is for the reduction from 75 to 65. [1:35:12, 1:35:21]: And the Planning Commission on March 24th, they approved the reduction from 75 to 50 outright. [1:35:22, 1:35:28]: So you have the staff's recommendation with the reduction to 65 feet and the planning commissions. [1:35:28, 1:35:34]: recommendation from seventy-five to fifty feet for the full bearance request. [1:35:35, 1:35:35]: All right. [1:35:36, 1:35:43]: All right, knowing that, then uh tell you what, I'll stop this portion and we'll go on to open up the public hearing. [1:35:43, 1:36:03]: So I'll open up to a public hearing. So um if I'd like to get any comments from the public, if there are any out there that are in favor of this particular uh reduction from 75 to 65 feet. If and um so otherwise uh Ms. Holiday, if you have anybody that that wants [1:36:03, 1:36:14]: wants to uh make a comment for. And uh I believe um Santa Thorne's online as well with anything on the Facebook Live in reference to any requests for or comments for. [1:36:15, 1:36:21]: So mayor online on the Zoom call, I don't see any raised hands. Okay. [1:36:22, 1:36:23]: Mr. Orden? [1:36:31, 1:36:32]: Mr. Warren? [1:36:35, 1:36:46]: All right, Ms. Holliday, so uh if you see you see no no raised hands for four, um, how about against? Any raised hands against uh this uh recommended uh reduction from 75 to 65 feet. [1:36:46, 1:36:47]: Anything at all? [1:36:49, 1:36:52]: Just wait a second for anyone to respond. Okay. [1:36:56, 1:36:58]: Mayor, there are no raised hands. [1:36:58, 1:36:58]: All right. [1:37:00, 1:37:01]: Alrighty. [1:37:01, 1:37:06]: Well, I will tell you what, open the public hearing, I will now close the public hearing. [1:37:06, 1:37:21]: And the attorney is online. So if I that's the right thing to do, we'll close this out. And I'll ask for uh any other comments from the council. And if not, any particular comments, then I just need a motion to accept this uh recommendation. [1:37:21, 1:37:27]: Mr. Mayor, I could just mention that if if the council wishes to prove this, we have identified [1:37:27, 1:37:31]: Um some conditions of approval that are here on this slide. [1:37:32, 1:37:32]: Okay. [1:37:34, 1:37:37]: Okay. What are those? Go right ahead, please. [1:37:38, 1:37:42]: Okay, so we recommend denial reduction of fifty feet, but if the the [1:37:42, 1:37:45]: But then the approval of a variance to [1:37:45, 1:37:46]: Sixty five feet. [1:37:46, 1:37:49]: Um, should have the following conditions. [1:37:49, 1:37:51]: That A, the property should be [1:37:51, 1:37:57]: developed only accordance with a site plan that's similar to the one that was submitted. The one that was submitted [1:37:57, 1:37:58]: Still shows [1:37:58, 1:38:02]: uh the fifty feet. So he would would need to submit another site plan. [1:38:03, 1:38:04]: Showing the the sixty five feet. [1:38:05, 1:38:10]: A B the rear yard setback should be no less than sixty-five feet measured from the rear yard. [1:38:10, 1:38:12]: to the nearest point of the [1:38:12, 1:38:12]: Home. [1:38:13, 1:38:14]: And see um [1:38:14, 1:38:20]: property should be developed in accordance with all other stipulations of Eagles Landing Property Owners Association. [1:38:20, 1:38:24]: And finally, property should be developed in accordance with other stipulations. [1:38:24, 1:38:27]: Of the approved plat for Eagles Landing Subdivision Unit Eleven. [1:38:29, 1:38:35]: Mayor Four, these are all in accordance with code. Um, there's nothing outside of that that we're adding here. Okay. [1:38:37, 1:38:41]: All right. All right. So so uh Ms. Gantt, you have your hand up? [1:38:43, 1:38:44]: You've you're muted, Miss Kent. [1:38:45, 1:38:52]: I would like to make a motion to approve this with staff's recommendations and the conditions that have been read for approval. [1:38:52, 1:38:53]: So a second. [1:38:53, 1:38:57]: Second. Okay, Miss Alzheimer's second that okay, all in favor, please indicate. [1:38:59, 1:39:00]: Okay, uh maybe. [1:39:02, 1:39:13]: Unless we pull the screen, I need you to um let me know what that vote is, maybe. Yeah, well that's what I'm I'm trying to count right. So it looks like uh everybody, Miss Barber, did you vote? I have a question, please. [1:39:13, 1:39:13]: Yeah. [1:39:14, 1:39:23]: Looking at the slide and the recommendation. Um, the last note, uh item B, it says um approve. [1:39:24, 1:39:27]: Planning Commission's recommendation approval of the fifty feet. [1:39:27, 1:39:28]: So does this [1:39:29, 1:39:30]: Motion. [1:39:30, 1:39:33]: Include the approval of the sixty five feet. [1:39:33, 1:39:36]: Yeah. [1:39:36, 1:39:37]: Camp just did, I believe. [1:39:38, 1:39:40]: It's the sixty five, yes. Okay, thank you. [1:39:41, 1:39:43]: All right. Once again. [1:39:44, 1:39:47]: I tell you what, I don't uh could you remove the slide, please? [1:39:48, 1:39:52]: Uh we can stop sharing. Yeah, stop sharing. There you go. I'm sorry, stop sharing. [1:39:53, 1:39:57]: All right, now all in favor of the mo motion has been made by second. All in favor of motion, please indicate. [1:39:58, 1:40:02]: Okay. So it looks like it's unanimous decision. Okay. Good deal. Appreciate it. Thank you. [1:40:03, 1:40:05]: I will move on to new business. [1:40:05, 1:40:13]: New business council consideration to fill a vacancy and appoint a member of the Downtown Development Authority Board. Presented by Mr. Peterson, sir, please. [1:40:13, 1:40:33]: Yes, sir. Thank you, Mayor and Council. The DDA is actually still reviewing the applications. We received more, the DDA received more than expected. They're going to review it, well, continue reviewing and discuss these applications during next week's April 19th meeting, and then we'll have an update during the April. [1:40:33, 1:40:35]: April twenty sixth meeting. [1:40:36, 1:40:37]: Okay, all right. [1:40:38, 1:40:48]: So be it. Thank you, sir. We'll move on. Council consideration approved the East Atlanta Road slash least free roadway improvements project change order number one. [1:40:48, 1:40:59]: with summit construction development for the modification of the traffic signals and the use of the alternative alternate bid, I'm sorry, pricing for street print crosswalks. [1:40:59, 1:41:04]: An amount of two hundred ninety-two thousand one hundred and eighty-one dollars and eighty-five cents. [1:41:04, 1:41:07]: Funding sources from SPLOS. Mr. Aaron, please. [1:41:07, 1:41:27]: Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. I have skip Leighton with Falcon Design on as well. This is in reference to the two traffic lights. One is at East Atlanta, North Henry, the other is at North Lee Street and North Henry. The city requested that the masked arms be black. So this is a change order to incorporate that. [1:41:27, 1:41:34]: And also to use the street print for crosswalks, but Mr. Leighton is on the line if anybody has any questions. [1:41:34, 1:41:37]: Ms. Mr. Leighton, uh do you have anything you need to add at this time, sir? [1:41:37, 1:41:57]: Uh no sir. We just to let you know, we talked about this at the retreat and uh based on the contract documents we did modify the uh contractor's original request which was nearly three hundred thousand dollars for the signals alone. Uh we brought that back in line with what was allowed by contract only. We had it chosen. [1:41:57, 1:42:05]: checked by the uh uh signal guys that did actu did the design in this area and everybody's in agreement that the prices are correct. [1:42:06, 1:42:10]: All right, thank you. So council, any questions for Mr. Leighton or Mr. Dessis, please? [1:42:10, 1:42:12]: Yes, sir. Go right ahead. [1:42:12, 1:42:16]: Uh what's the funding source? I think we already have this, right? [1:42:16, 1:42:17]: Just plausible. [1:42:19, 1:42:28]: Okay, this funny sauce is squad. And for the purpose of the public, so the public understands. And we hear about this every single day about traffic. [1:42:28, 1:42:31]: Uh, this is part of the East Atlanta Road. [1:42:31, 1:42:32]: Uh [1:42:32, 1:42:35]: Project and the Lee Street Project. [1:42:36, 1:42:41]: So uh of as a part of the overall project, you will have a turn lane. [1:42:41, 1:42:58]: uh that will run from the railroad tracks all the way to North Henry Boulevard. So no more sitting there waiting to turn at the traffic signal. So a new signal will be added, a turn lane, a turn arrow will be added, uh it will be dressed up. [1:42:58, 1:43:18]: In terms of how it would look, many of us go to different areas uh where we look, or we'll go to Cumberland, or we might go up to uh, you know, in the city and we see the brick, the pretty uh brick stamp pavers uh on the crosswalk, so they'll be distinct, beautiful, and dressed up. So beautification is what we [1:43:18, 1:43:20]: We hear about a lot. [1:43:20, 1:43:24]: uh in uh in and around the city. So this [1:43:27, 1:43:33]: Project will help, especially uh especially at North and South Lee Street, which will be formed into a four-way intersect. [1:43:38, 1:43:42]: Because he mostly frozen then I believe. Okay, he is frozen. [1:43:44, 1:43:50]: 'Cause everybody's out of there in the first thirty minutes anyway, but we're making sure that we put [1:43:50, 1:43:51]: Uh, everything. [1:43:51, 1:43:52]: uh in there. [1:43:53, 1:43:53]: So [1:43:53, 1:43:57]: I certainly would like to go ahead and make a motion for approval. [1:43:57, 1:43:59]: Uh as recommended by staff. [1:44:00, 1:44:00]: Was there a second? [1:44:01, 1:44:02]: I second. [1:44:02, 1:44:05]: Ms. Gan second, are there any other questions or concerns? [1:44:06, 1:44:07]: Ms. Barber, go ahead. [1:44:07, 1:44:09]: You have a question, concern, or are you voting? [1:44:09, 1:44:15]: No, no question. So stand by stand by Mr. Blount. Ms. Gobber, did you say what now? [1:44:16, 1:44:18]: Questions for Mr. Wiggins. [1:44:19, 1:44:20]: Okay, go ahead, please. [1:44:20, 1:44:21]: Um [1:44:21, 1:44:22]: So the [1:44:23, 1:44:28]: I guess you guys just a financial of this blast account. What other project? [1:44:30, 1:44:30]: Has been [1:44:31, 1:44:33]: allocated to this account. [1:44:34, 1:44:37]: For this particular top. This this is this is the East Alam. [1:44:38, 1:44:42]: There's there's on um the road there's East Atlanta and [1:44:43, 1:44:44]: Uh Lee Street. [1:44:44, 1:44:45]: Right. [1:44:45, 1:44:46]: That's what's coming out the other county. [1:44:48, 1:44:51]: Okay, so I'm just looking at this column for actual. [1:44:51, 1:44:52]: So [1:44:52, 1:44:53]: Mm-hmm. [1:44:54, 1:44:56]: Those that's so that's excellent. [1:44:56, 1:44:57]: That's East Soleil and Lee Street. [1:44:58, 1:45:00]: Around that. Mm-hmm. [1:45:05, 1:45:11]: There you go. You can read. Okay. Okay. It's okay. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [1:45:12, 1:45:19]: Uh Mayor, I I'm I think um what I what I was trying to find out is that the allotment of money uh [1:45:20, 1:45:28]: That was set up in SPLOS for that funding. This is the only portion that's coming out at this point. Is that correct, Mr. Dacious? [1:45:30, 1:45:39]: Actually, you have costs coming out for the construct construction work that they've already performed. This would be part of that funding source. [1:45:40, 1:45:45]: So for the full amount that we had already alighted for this splotch funding. [1:45:46, 1:45:50]: Is this still the the portion that we had put overall for the roads for this? [1:45:51, 1:45:54]: Funding. Or is this a is this gonna be coming out of newsplots money? [1:45:56, 1:46:01]: This is out of uh this is my understanding, it's out of the East Atlanta and North Lee Street Project. [1:46:02, 1:46:03]: Slash four. Okay. [1:46:04, 1:46:15]: Okay, gotcha. That's what I meant. I just want to make sure this was cup still coming out of that same SPLOSS funding and not the new SPLOSS fund. No, I'm fine. So I'm I'm uh I'm I I'm good with it. [1:46:15, 1:46:16]: Okay. [1:46:16, 1:46:18]: Councillor, any other questions? [1:46:18, 1:46:22]: The motion has been made and and seconded. So yes, miss yes, Ms. Cant. [1:46:24, 1:46:27]: Aye. All in favor, please indicate. [1:46:29, 1:46:31]: All right, tsunami decision. Appreciate that. Thank you, gentlemen. [1:46:31, 1:46:33]: Thank you for those. [1:46:35, 1:46:51]: Okay, council consideration to grant the chief of police the authority to implement and or amend police department policies and procedures with review by legal counsel as appropriate, excluding policies and procedures with a financial impact greater than$5,000. Presented by uh Chief Tremor. [1:46:54, 1:46:57]: Thank you, Mayor and Council. Let me share my screen here with you. [1:46:58, 1:46:58]: Okay. [1:47:15, 1:47:20]: Okay. Are you all able to see that? Yeah. We are able to see it now. Thank you. Okay. Excellent. Excellent. [1:47:29, 1:47:36]: So the um first matter before you all is the approval of the policies and procedures or uh authorizing myself [1:47:37, 1:47:45]: To implement policies and procedures necessary for the operation of the police department. And before I get into that, I want to share with you all a little bit. [1:47:45, 1:47:47]: About the direction that we're moving. [1:47:47, 1:47:49]: with the police department. [1:47:49, 1:47:50]: Um [1:47:50, 1:47:57]: We have actually already committed to the Georgia Association of Chiefs of Police to be part of their state certification program. [1:47:58, 1:48:05]: And as it relates to the state certification program, this is an independent accrediting body by the Georgia Association of Chiefs of Police. [1:48:06, 1:48:11]: that comes into our organization, evaluates our policies and procedures to ensure that they [1:48:11, 1:48:14]: meet the uh criteria. [1:48:14, 1:48:21]: um of the current policies and procedures and recommended operating guidelines for police department. [1:48:21, 1:48:28]: Um, in this manual, there are 139 state standards that our department would have to meet in order to achieve the certification. [1:48:29, 1:48:33]: And just so you all know, there are only a hundred and thirty two of the twelve hundred and fourteen. [1:48:33, 1:48:39]: uh current law enforcement organizations in the state of Georgia that have achieved state certification. [1:48:39, 1:48:50]: We have already committed with the Georgia Association of Chiefs of Police of moving towards that uh to meet that standard. And so why are we moving forward with that? Well, obviously. [1:48:50, 1:48:56]: Uh what it does is it ensures for us that our policies and procedures are in compliance with uh state and national standards. [1:48:56, 1:49:11]: And additionally, by having these policies and procedures, it of course reduces the liability to the city, to the police department, and to those working inside our organization. And another benefit is that should the city decide to move forward with insurance through um [1:49:12, 1:49:13]: Gurma [1:49:13, 1:49:18]: that by achieving state certification, we would be eligible for a twenty percent discount on our insurance premium. [1:49:19, 1:49:23]: Um, so there's some some definite benefits of the certification program. [1:49:23, 1:49:29]: Uh the process for this program is first and foremost is organizational commitment, which we have already committed. [1:49:29, 1:49:34]: To pursuing this standard. We have applied for the certification. [1:49:34, 1:49:39]: And the next part of that process is to develop our policies and procedures. [1:49:39, 1:49:46]: Um afterwards there would be on-site assessments with uh certified assessors to the Georgia Association of Chiefs of Police. [1:49:46, 1:49:53]: where they would look at our policies and procedures manual to make sure that they met all of the 139 standards that was previously listed. [1:49:54, 1:50:00]: Um, then there would be a state certification committee that would review these, uh, then it would further be reviewed by a joint review committee. [1:50:00, 1:50:10]: They would actually come into our organization and look at our processes and procedures, not only review policy, but also to come in and actually physically inspect that we're in compliance with those standards. [1:50:11, 1:50:14]: After we do that, we would be awarded the certification. [1:50:14, 1:50:21]: And then we would be responsible for redes recertifying um every two years thereafter. And this is something that we're moving towards. [1:50:22, 1:50:26]: So obviously uh policies and procedures are um [1:50:26, 1:50:30]: a key component of that and um it is important [1:50:32, 1:50:38]: First and foremost, every organization should have uh policies and procedures that address these high liability areas. [1:50:38, 1:50:45]: Uh, while not every organization in the state of Georgia is certified, it is rec it is recommended through Georgia Association of Chiefs of Police. [1:50:45, 1:50:50]: Um that they do have these uh policies in these perci in these particular areas of which [1:50:51, 1:51:11]: um are built within our policies and procedure manual. So when I refer to or you hear reference to uh proper vetting by legal counsel as it relates to specific policies and procedures, these are the policies and procedures that we're referring to and I'll show you that's outlined here shortly. So these critical areas are looking at our human [1:51:11, 1:51:23]: resources and uh equal opportunity employment, which the city currently has policies on. And we've um we we've essentially um copied some of those standards uh or copied the standards that the city currently has. [1:51:23, 1:51:30]: Uh policies on evidence and property, vehicle operation, search and seizure, use of force, arrest, off duty, uh extra employment. [1:51:30, 1:51:35]: Um specialized equipment, mental illness, and then anything governing multi-jurisdictional task forces. [1:51:37, 1:51:41]: So this is um our current operating manual. [1:51:42, 1:51:47]: So you can see here, these are the policies and procedures that we have in process. [1:51:47, 1:52:01]: This is a voluminous manual. There are probably 600 pages in this manual. And this is just a general overview of the policies and procedures that we need to implement in order to be in compliance and to move forward with the certification process. [1:52:02, 1:52:08]: So you can see here uh there are 23 chapters. We have a written directive session uh section, our mission, goals, and objectives. [1:52:08, 1:52:13]: uh a chapter that speaks to department organization, professional standards. This basically governs [1:52:13, 1:52:22]: Um, our internal investigation processes. These highlighted areas are the high liability areas that I just re just uh briefly mentioned to you here. [1:52:22, 1:52:24]: So you can see this um [1:52:24, 1:52:31]: uh highlighted section here afterwards, that's the actual state certification standard that speaks to that specific policy. [1:52:32, 1:52:32]: Um [1:52:33, 1:52:39]: Outside employment was another one of those areas. So we have policies governing officers being able to work secondary jobs outside employment. [1:52:39, 1:52:47]: Our code of conduct is our internal operating procedures, uh, policies and procedures that deal with disciplinary actions, code of ethics. [1:52:47, 1:52:51]: uh neglective duty, um all these things that you can see here. [1:52:51, 1:52:57]: uh grievances. Uh this grievance policy models the city's policy as it relates to grievances. [1:52:58, 1:53:01]: Uh, we have a policy on uh dress code, how we're to um [1:53:02, 1:53:04]: uh maintain our uh equipment. [1:53:05, 1:53:12]: Arrest procedures, another high liability policy that we need to implement here. As you can see, search and seizure was another area mentioned. [1:53:12, 1:53:18]: We have a policy on chapter 10 here, civil processes, policies over weapons, policies over use of force. [1:53:18, 1:53:22]: Vehicle operations to include how we uh handle pursuits. [1:53:23, 1:53:23]: Uh [1:53:23, 1:53:28]: Policies that govern how we deal with property and evidence are records unit communication patrol. [1:53:28, 1:53:29]: Um [1:53:30, 1:53:33]: Detainment of uh and transportation of prisoners. [1:53:33, 1:53:38]: Policies and procedures on investigations, how we deal with juveniles, unusual occurrences. [1:53:38, 1:53:42]: What are your bomb threats, SWAT incidents? Um uh [1:53:42, 1:53:45]: In suspicious packages, things along those lines. [1:53:45, 1:53:50]: We have a policy that governs how we do training. And then the final policy is dealing with [1:53:50, 1:53:56]: the mentally ill. So as you can see, there are a number of policies that the police department needs to implement. [1:53:56, 1:54:01]: And uh it's pretty standard the chief of police in uh most all jurisdictions. [1:54:02, 1:54:06]: Um, is responsible for implementing sound policies and procedures. [1:54:06, 1:54:07]: Uh that [1:54:07, 1:54:11]: ensure that the police department is operating in accordance with uh [1:54:12, 1:54:13]: Recognized standards. [1:54:13, 1:54:20]: So as we move forward with this process, we obviously have new staff members coming on board. It's important for us to move these things forward. [1:54:21, 1:54:26]: We're in the process now. Uh most of these policies have been written, so we are in the review process now. [1:54:26, 1:54:31]: of uh going over those, but of course um with the approval of this resolution. [1:54:32, 1:54:36]: Those high liability pro policies would also be properly vetted uh with our [1:54:37, 1:54:41]: uh legal counsel as well. So I'll open it up for any questions that anyone has. [1:54:41, 1:54:44]: Thank you, Chief. Uh Ms. Gantt, go ahead, please. Saw your hand first. [1:54:45, 1:54:49]: Thank you. Um Chief, are you saying that you want us to [1:54:49, 1:54:52]: vote to implement a policy that we have not read. [1:54:53, 1:54:59]: You want to say that. This is giving me the authority to uh implement the policies and procedures on behalf of the police department. [1:55:01, 1:55:06]: Yeah, but where are they? Like we are we gonna approve those policies and procedures? [1:55:07, 1:55:13]: Now that's typically not what happens in most uh government organizations that authority is given to the chief of police. [1:55:14, 1:55:19]: implement those policies. If we had to bring every policy before council, we'd be reviewing policies through the end of the year. [1:55:20, 1:55:36]: Okay. So I'm um this is new for me as in regards to the police department, but I would think that um, you know, we would at least I see the topics, but we would at least, you know, have a copy of those policies before we approved a resolution. [1:55:36, 1:55:41]: to move forward with the policy that we haven't really approved. [1:55:41, 1:55:58]: I mean, we are the legislative body, correct? So I I just wanted to know whether or not whether we received a copy. I don't know what we're approving. We're approving sounds like we're approving or or granting permission for you to write the policies and procedures and whatever you write and says go. [1:55:59, 1:56:00]: Is that what we're doing? [1:56:02, 1:56:04]: Mr. Gardner, you had your hand up. Did you want to speak to that, sir? [1:56:06, 1:56:09]: Well no, I'm asking you Chief. Is that what we're doing? I'm not asking Mr. Garner. [1:56:10, 1:56:15]: Okay. Well council council one again, um yes, and that typically I understand this is new to you, but this is [1:56:15, 1:56:32]: Generally, what happens in most all jurisdictions. The chief of police of the city of Atlanta is the sole authority on the policies and procedures of the department. They're considered to be the resident expert. And it's not that I'm making these policies up. These policies are recognized state and national standards. So these are templates. [1:56:32, 1:56:38]: That are provided to us. And I think if you were to look at most all organizations across the state of Georgia. [1:56:38, 1:56:44]: Who have a policies and procedures manual. And unfortunately, not every department has a policies and procedure manual. [1:56:44, 1:56:50]: that this authority it uh rests with the chief of police of that organization. And the thing of it is is you have to understand like [1:56:50, 1:56:55]: Some of the things that we've seen across the board, if we run into an issue where we [1:56:55, 1:57:01]: recognize that there's something that needs to be modified with our use of force policy to ensure that we're able to [1:57:01, 1:57:02]: Um uh [1:57:03, 1:57:09]: You know, we need to be able to change those standards quickly if there's something that impacts public safety. And so these things generally are not things. [1:57:10, 1:57:24]: that um are brought before council for approval for every policy and procedure. These policies and procedures are always in process. They're constantly being reviewed. There are new policies and procedures by virtue of operation that we end up having to implement. [1:57:24, 1:57:29]: And uh most organizations have and we do have an office of professional standards, we have [1:57:29, 1:57:39]: Uh Captain Moman, who's a certified state accreditation manager, who's had training in state certification accreditation, who understands all the policies and procedures. [1:57:39, 1:57:46]: and is responsible for ensuring that we receive the correct policies and procedures that those are in compliance again with state and national standards. [1:57:47, 1:57:47]: Okay. [1:57:48, 1:57:56]: So where would the language come from? Would it be come from would it be copied verbatim from the state national standards? Um, or would it be [1:57:57, 1:57:57]: Um [1:57:58, 1:58:02]: something that you guys would draft you would draft, you and your staff would draft. [1:58:02, 1:58:09]: Yeah, the the general standards are the it's template. It's pretty standard language, but we would have to customize that to [1:58:10, 1:58:12]: Спіть парли ту. [1:58:12, 1:58:15]: our operating procedures within the Stockbridge Police Department. [1:58:16, 1:58:17]: Okay. Thank you. [1:58:18, 1:58:18]: Yes. [1:58:19, 1:58:21]: Mr. Gardner, do you have something you need to add? [1:58:22, 1:58:26]: Uh no I think chief chief hit it on the head and it and it is standard operational. [1:58:27, 1:58:38]: operational procedures that they're engaging and it changes um as laws, new laws come about and new procedures. And and as Chief stated, you know, this is looked at from the state accreditation. [1:58:38, 1:58:39]: Bold. [1:58:39, 1:58:59]: Um as it relates to us becoming state certified, as he mentioned, only a few police departments are actually state certified with our ultimate goal of becoming CALIA, which is national certification, which brings another ball of wax in review by um the standards board at CALEAR. Um so this is this is typical in in most. [1:58:59, 1:59:11]: five police departments. It's their standard operational procedure, so it doesn't need to be approved by counsel. As Chief said, you you'll be going back and forth every time they change policies. It's just their standard operational procedures for [1:59:12, 1:59:20]: What is known as police departments, as you know, paramilitary departments, the death standards are a little bit above and beyond what you typically see in your regular HR. [1:59:20, 1:59:22]: Um policy manuals. [1:59:22, 1:59:24]: Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [1:59:25, 1:59:26]: Yeah, um [1:59:27, 1:59:29]: My concerns today wasn't about [1:59:30, 1:59:40]: The SOPs is how we're gonna implement those SOPs because uh I'm I'm pretty sure you're familiar, Chief Tramer, if not, it was probably before before your time. [1:59:40, 1:59:44]: Working under Deputy Chief Taylor with Sid Lannon and Deputy Chief uh Redding. [1:59:45, 2:00:05]: Each department even in itself would bring out would would would submit SOPs for different departments. So SOPs in itself are is standard for each department. My concern was, and I talked to you, Chief Tramer, uh, is how we how we would implement those SOPs and what and what guidelines and how how we we would [2:00:05, 2:00:13]: validate those SOP so uh you know talking to you and knowing how that works and I agree with Mr. Gardner SOPs and I would tell you all [2:00:13, 2:00:17]: Uh if you go sit down in the city of Atlanta headquarters. [2:00:17, 2:00:19]: You'll see'em come through uh [2:00:19, 2:00:31]: very often and and they would come through the police department from different departments. It's not just from the chief of police. They will come from the deputy chief of different so they they it's a it's a common practice. [2:00:31, 2:00:38]: And I just wanted to see how we would implement it. So I'm I I have peace of mind of what we're doing in that in that area. So uh I'm okay with that. [2:00:39, 2:00:41]: Mayor Pro Tem, Thomas, go ahead, please. [2:00:42, 2:00:50]: Uh Chief, uh I I have a little problem with with this process. Um I I I don't have a problem with [2:00:50, 2:00:57]: uh certifying in in the city of Stockbridge Police Department moving towards certification. [2:00:58, 2:01:01]: Um I would have appreciated. [2:01:01, 2:01:19]: uh this presentation before tonight because uh I like to be able to read presentations. I like to be able to call you and ask questions beforehand. I didn't get that opportunity so I'm gonna have to sort of uh say what I need to say uh right here and right now. [2:01:20, 2:01:31]: Just as you brought this before us tonight, I I I think this is is standard and and as you mentioned, I tried to make some notes. Uh you said that um [2:01:32, 2:01:40]: Um, every organization have policies and procedures, and the chief of police is responsible. [2:01:40, 2:01:45]: Well, as you said that the city council as the governing body [2:01:46, 2:01:50]: You know, we have uh policies and procedures as well. [2:01:50, 2:01:51]: And [2:01:52, 2:01:53]: My [2:01:54, 2:01:55]: Understand and [2:01:55, 2:01:56]: About [2:01:57, 2:01:59]: All departments under [2:01:59, 2:02:02]: The city of Stockbridge structure. [2:02:02, 2:02:09]: Um they fall into a realm of uh checks and balances. [2:02:09, 2:02:11]: Uh and oversight. [2:02:11, 2:02:12]: Um [2:02:13, 2:02:19]: It appears to me that uh some of that oversight is being taken away. [2:02:20, 2:02:22]: Um I I do agree with [2:02:23, 2:02:25]: Some of the uh intricate [2:02:25, 2:02:30]: uh levels of certification and that that's not what I'm I'm that I'm not talking about those kind of thing. [2:02:31, 2:02:32]: But to give [2:02:33, 2:02:35]: The police chief. [2:02:36, 2:02:38]: As a department head [2:02:38, 2:02:40]: the authority to [2:02:41, 2:02:42]: Um [2:02:42, 2:02:45]: create policies and procedure without [2:02:46, 2:02:55]: uh oversight and checks and balances. I I have a I have a problem with that. I I don't see the police department any different from [2:02:55, 2:02:57]: Any other department in [2:02:58, 2:03:00]: Under the umbrella of the city. [2:03:01, 2:03:03]: Um you have other directors. [2:03:04, 2:03:07]: And I just don't see how [2:03:07, 2:03:13]: The police department can operate any different from uh public works. [2:03:14, 2:03:17]: um community development as far as [2:03:18, 2:03:22]: uh policies and procedures and and it's all intricate. I I I get that. [2:03:22, 2:03:25]: But just as you present it tonight. [2:03:26, 2:03:32]: That's the way I would want to see it happen. And we don't have to get into all of the details for a certification. [2:03:33, 2:03:34]: But Chief, I I cannot [2:03:34, 2:03:36]: Um, I cannot approve. [2:03:37, 2:03:38]: Of a blanket. [2:03:39, 2:03:40]: uh authority [2:03:41, 2:03:44]: To write policies and procedure without [2:03:44, 2:03:49]: something coming before the council and and I think councilwoman get [2:03:49, 2:03:52]: So to hit on my concerns as well. [2:03:52, 2:03:54]: It's not that we're going to [2:03:55, 2:03:57]: Uh try to look at every sentence. [2:03:57, 2:04:01]: in a certification manual of uh or or every [2:04:02, 2:04:09]: Um, you know, requirement. No, I'm I'm not really talking about that, but I think it's it's a it's a standard where you [2:04:10, 2:04:11]: The star bridge [2:04:12, 2:04:20]: Uh, police department will have to come back to the council, just like any other organization or any other department. [2:04:20, 2:04:25]: um under the city. And I and I think we're we're we're threading on some dangerous grounds because [2:04:26, 2:04:28]: I think that any [2:04:28, 2:04:30]: uh department under the city structure. [2:04:31, 2:04:33]: can come back and say actually the same thing because [2:04:34, 2:04:38]: Public works, community development, all of those things are very intricate. [2:04:38, 2:04:48]: And so I'm just sort of having a problem with that. And and and I just wanna, I'm thinking about in the city of New York, uh stopping frisk. [2:04:48, 2:05:04]: Uh I'm thinking about no-knock warrants. Uh I'm thinking about um chokehos, uh uh speed traps. So I'm sort of thinking about those kind of things. And not to say that Frank Tremor would do that, but [2:05:04, 2:05:11]: It's not about personality, it's about the seat of Thaibridge Police Department. And so I'm having some problem with that. [2:05:12, 2:05:19]: as far as giving or signing off on uh giving the police chief that kind of authority. [2:05:19, 2:05:23]: To to write policies and procedures where I don't really think [2:05:23, 2:05:26]: That you act, I don't think you really need that. [2:05:27, 2:05:34]: I don't think you need that to go forward and do what you need to do. I just think that you need to come back before the council and just share. [2:05:35, 2:05:36]: Uh, we need to know. [2:05:37, 2:05:42]: See, when when things go around, things go wrong in a city of Thybridge for us policing. [2:05:43, 2:05:54]: It's gonna come back to the city council. It's not gonna come back to the chief or say, it's gonna come back to the city council and and and then looking at your request, uh it's [2:05:54, 2:05:56]: It says [2:05:56, 2:06:02]: authority to implement and then it goes on to with uh legal review. [2:06:03, 2:06:12]: It also bypasses the city manager. So I'm just a little concerned that that the city manager would not even. [2:06:12, 2:06:16]: Have an opportunity to lay eyes on [2:06:16, 2:06:31]: on on a document that's going to go through. I heard you say 600 pages. No, we're not going to read 600 pages. But I just think that it's something in the process that just does not sit well with me. And I don't think that you need [2:06:31, 2:06:32]: Um [2:06:32, 2:06:35]: That authority. I I can't give that authority. [2:06:36, 2:06:37]: Um [2:06:37, 2:06:41]: I I can't give that authority to create policies and procedure. [2:06:41, 2:06:44]: I I just think that it's something that you do as the chief. [2:06:45, 2:06:48]: And you bring it back to the council and and [2:06:49, 2:07:03]: And and I'm not saying like like uh the city manager mentioned that we'll be coming back every day, uh every year, all year, to look at various things that's gonna come before. And I'm not really talking about those things, but just in general. [2:07:04, 2:07:11]: Giving the chief of police the authority to create policies and procedures of the City of Stockbridge Police Department. [2:07:12, 2:07:15]: I just have a problem with that language. Um [2:07:15, 2:07:23]: Because if if if Mr. Aaron comes forward as the uh public works director asking the same question. [2:07:23, 2:07:25]: And looking for the same authority. [2:07:27, 2:07:29]: I I think we're creating a problem with that. [2:07:30, 2:07:40]: Um, and I don't know, I don't have the answer to get around it, but it just not it does just does not sit well with me to give the chief of police a set of Thy Bridge. [2:07:40, 2:07:43]: The authority to write policies and procedures. [2:07:43, 2:07:47]: When you also mentioned that many of these things are standard. [2:07:47, 2:08:07]: Um the 139 standards and all of the certification. This is standard. So I don't see how I don't see why the city of Stockbridge Police Department cannot move forward with all of the standards, with all of the certification, without the chief of police having the authority to. [2:08:07, 2:08:09]: to create policies and procedures. [2:08:12, 2:08:20]: And maybe you can explain that a little better. But again, and I wish going forward, uh, when you have these presentations, if you could get this information. [2:08:20, 2:08:22]: Uh to us before because [2:08:22, 2:08:32]: I would have called you before and I would ask you a hundred questions, but getting this right here and right now, that does not sit well with me uh either. [2:08:32, 2:08:42]: So and and and um I'm saying this to you, Mr. Garden, as well. Um, you as a city manager, you have to be about getting these presentations to us because I don't like [2:08:43, 2:08:46]: being able to uh have to ask these kind of questions. [2:08:47, 2:08:52]: at the meeting, I like to try to ask these questions offline to try to get an answer, but [2:08:52, 2:08:56]: Uh and maybe I'm just missing something, maybe I'm not understanding, but [2:08:56, 2:08:57]: Uh tonight [2:08:57, 2:09:00]: I cannot approve of this. I cannot. [2:09:00, 2:09:07]: Uh because it it just maybe I I don't understand, but just to give you that authority. [2:09:08, 2:09:09]: Um [2:09:10, 2:09:14]: It it just doesn't sit well with me because and I'm looking at policing. [2:09:15, 2:09:17]: In today's we're a police and [2:09:17, 2:09:18]: Um [2:09:19, 2:09:21]: It's very difficult. [2:09:21, 2:09:26]: And and when I look across this country and I see what police departments are doing. [2:09:27, 2:09:30]: Um I I have problem with that. [2:09:30, 2:09:36]: And I mentioned some of those before, uh no not warrants, uh choke, stopping frisk. [2:09:37, 2:09:42]: Um and I'm not saying that Frank Tremor will institute any of those, but [2:09:42, 2:10:02]: If you have that authority to create these policy procedures and you don't have to come before the council, then you may do that. Um, Willie Joe Jones, who may be the NAC police chief 15 years down the road, may come and just do that. So that's the problem that I saw to have. And it's not about personality, it's about the city of Stylebridge Police Department. [2:10:02, 2:10:03]: Army as a whole. [2:10:03, 2:10:10]: I I just I just have a problem with this and and I just be honest with you, I I can't approve of this tonight. I cannot. [2:10:10, 2:10:20]: Um, and I think that you can go forward and do what you indicated that you need to do as far as the standards, uh meeting all certifications. I I just think you can go forward and do that. [2:10:23, 2:10:27]: Yep. Mayor Proteum, I appreciate your concern, sir. And um [2:10:28, 2:10:29]: I apologize. Um [2:10:30, 2:10:34]: There they're I I don't know what additional documentation you're referring to. Um [2:10:34, 2:10:37]: The the presentation the presentation that you just made tonight. [2:10:38, 2:10:40]: Uh okay. The um [2:10:40, 2:10:44]: Uh I was trying to give some background and context on that, but [2:10:44, 2:10:44]: Um [2:10:45, 2:10:51]: To your point here, and I I will say this and you know, hopefully I'm not um hopefully I'm not out of bounds in terms of what I say. [2:10:51, 2:10:58]: It's my understanding, um, in other organizations I've worked at, uh, I understand the point that you're making in terms of disparity between [2:10:58, 2:11:02]: uh how we are moving forward with policies versus other departments, but [2:11:02, 2:11:09]: I I'm not certain in any of the cities that I've worked in that uh the the governing body's gotten into [2:11:09, 2:11:15]: um the policies and procedures of how public works or facilities or anybody else. Those are standard operating procedures. [2:11:16, 2:11:23]: that the directors and um that there is some oversight to the extent the city manager wishes to be involved in that process. [2:11:23, 2:11:28]: In implementing those procedures. If you look at Henry County, if you look at McDonough PD at Locust Grove. [2:11:28, 2:11:34]: and any of the police departments to include Clayton County and some others who who are certified agencies. [2:11:34, 2:11:40]: that the authority is vested in the chief of police to implement those policies and procedures. So this isn't something that's foreign. [2:11:40, 2:11:46]: This isn't something that uh we're trying to do that's new. I certainly understand your concerns as it relates to the issues. [2:11:46, 2:11:53]: Just so you know, um, we're concerned about the same issues you are as well, and that's the certifying body. [2:11:53, 2:11:56]: um that dictates things like we're not going to do chokeholds. [2:11:57, 2:12:00]: We have to have clear policies on no knock warrants. [2:12:00, 2:12:05]: Um that we have to have restrictive pursuit policies. It's the accreditation standards that [2:12:06, 2:12:15]: hold an organization to those standards that meet state and national best practices in terms of how we're to operate. And so by virtue of adopting [2:12:15, 2:12:18]: state and national standards, I think we're in very good standing. [2:12:18, 2:12:23]: Uh it's not that we're trying to be secretive or we're trying to hold off on anything. It's really [2:12:23, 2:12:35]: from the standpoint of of the the amount of time, effort, energy would be required, and we have to be able to to pivot and make changes. So if I don't have the authority, and we may be talking broadly about use of force. [2:12:35, 2:12:42]: But when we implement a change, let's say to the uniform and how we're gonna wear the uniform, that has to be reflected in our policy. [2:12:42, 2:12:49]: To make that change, we would have to bring something as simple as that back before council if I didn't have the authority to be able to make those changes. [2:12:50, 2:12:53]: And furthermore, there are some changes. There are organizations [2:12:53, 2:12:58]: that had within their policy that they could implement neck restraints. [2:12:59, 2:13:00]: And [2:13:00, 2:13:02]: If the police chief [2:13:02, 2:13:07]: had to bring it before council to eliminate that as a practice, then we're talking about [2:13:08, 2:13:23]: delays in in in implementing something where I can't say, you know what, I'm drafting up a pro policy and starting today, we're not doing chokeholds anymore. I've got to wait two, four, six weeks to bring that to council to do something that really could potentially save somebody's life. [2:13:24, 2:13:26]: So I have to be able to make those changes. [2:13:26, 2:13:30]: Uh as we identify those changes and I hope that you have the trust and faith. [2:13:30, 2:13:34]: that what we're doing is moving forward in a positive direction here and and um [2:13:35, 2:13:39]: Um that that still may not address your concern, Mayor Pro Tem, but I at least just wanted to um [2:13:40, 2:13:41]: What's the statement? [2:13:41, 2:13:47]: Well, I I mean I I do understand that point when you mentioned about the uniform, those kind of things. [2:13:48, 2:13:51]: But I think there has to be a way. [2:13:51, 2:13:54]: That we can move forward with [2:13:54, 2:13:56]: Uh creating [2:13:57, 2:13:58]: Um [2:13:58, 2:14:02]: all that is needed for the city of Stybridge Police Department. [2:14:02, 2:14:03]: Um [2:14:04, 2:14:05]: I don't [2:14:05, 2:14:09]: I I guess in my mind I don't see what would prevent you from [2:14:10, 2:14:11]: Doin' [2:14:11, 2:14:15]: Some of the things that you just need to do. [2:14:15, 2:14:16]: Um [2:14:18, 2:14:22]: I I just don't see what would prevent you from just doing some of those things. [2:14:22, 2:14:40]: I just think that, you know, and and this should have been discussed um way before now. Uh and even with the review board that we talked about, you know, uh July is is is here pretty much, and we have not even sort of touched on that. [2:14:40, 2:14:41]: Um [2:14:41, 2:15:00]: I'm just having some problem with this, Chief. Just to be honest with you. I I think if we could have sort of got into this a little bit more, uh a little bit more in detail, I think we could have flushed this out. I think we could have streamlined it. So if you're talking about having the authority to create certain policies and procedures. [2:15:00, 2:15:02]: I think we'll be okay with that. [2:15:02, 2:15:05]: But just to give a blanket. [2:15:06, 2:15:07]: Авто [2:15:08, 2:15:15]: That I guess that's the problem that I have, just giving a blanket authority for one person. [2:15:15, 2:15:35]: uh the department head just to go ahead and just do what they want to do. Uh it sort of just boils down to that. And and again, I go back to other department heads. And I think we have to be very cautious on how we treat all departments of the city because the the Stockbridge Police Department it falls under the umbrella [2:15:35, 2:15:37]: Umbrella of the city government. [2:15:37, 2:15:50]: And I think we have to sort of be cautious on how we treat all of these department, how we treat all department heads, and how we have to be fair and allow, you know, for oversight and checks and balances. And so. [2:15:51, 2:15:55]: I do know and understand that in policing. [2:15:55, 2:15:57]: There has to be some checks and balances. [2:15:57, 2:16:00]: And I think the governing body [2:16:00, 2:16:02]: Is that body that does that? [2:16:02, 2:16:04]: Now we don't have to get into [2:16:05, 2:16:08]: the fine aligns of all of the details. [2:16:09, 2:16:23]: But Chief, there must be some checks and balances of the governing body with this police department. We hold the city manager accountable and you're bypassing the city manager. [2:16:23, 2:16:25]: So I I even have a problem with that. [2:16:29, 2:16:31]: All right. Um Mrs. Gardner, go ahead, please. [2:16:34, 2:16:36]: You you muted, Mr. Gardner. You muted, sir. [2:16:38, 2:16:42]: Uh hopefully like if I say this in the right way and it doesn't come across wrong. I mean [2:16:44, 2:16:48]: The policies in public works as it relates to treatment of water, May and Council does not approve that. [2:16:50, 2:16:57]: That's done administratively and any requirements to change the percentage of chlorine or whatever. [2:16:57, 2:17:01]: You guys don't get in the weeds with that that's done and state mandated and state reviewed. [2:17:02, 2:17:03]: Chief just said the same thing. [2:17:04, 2:17:05]: Uh [2:17:07, 2:17:07]: Sorry. [2:17:07, 2:17:19]: No, no, go ahead, sir. I'm I'm just gonna make a comment based on what you just said, but let me just stop you right there. See, that's when I said there was 139 standards and there's uh uh certification. [2:17:20, 2:17:27]: So I agree with that. And I think that's what you just said. So we're not gonna get into weeds on the standards and certification. [2:17:27, 2:17:29]: No, but what what I'm saying is [2:17:29, 2:17:33]: And so what what changes um Mayor Potem is [2:17:34, 2:17:34]: You you [2:17:35, 2:17:44]: The chief wouldn't know which policies should come, which change in the policy should come and which shouldn't come. Should uniform, just the way uniform is displayed come? [2:17:44, 2:17:49]: Maybe not. But then at the same time, if they're implementing [2:17:49, 2:18:05]: any of the and chief you can speak to this um under president obama most police department went to the 21st century model of policing a lot of them did the one in east point we did those policies were adopted just like you said through the chief of police who is the subject matter expert [2:18:05, 2:18:10]: And council has to have the fate and trust in its in in the people that they hire. [2:18:10, 2:18:13]: To do the right thing. And the oversight is if [2:18:14, 2:18:17]: Chief does violate those rules and regulations. [2:18:17, 2:18:22]: The standards board come down on them and any police officer that abuse it gets put in jail. [2:18:23, 2:18:26]: Well let me let me ask you, Mr. Gardner, in his point. [2:18:26, 2:18:35]: You as a city manager, did you have an opportunity to to see that, to see those? Did your city council have an opportunity to see those? [2:18:35, 2:18:38]: City Council know what the Obama administration. [2:18:38, 2:18:43]: They never approved. Chief brought it as part of his five-year plan, but they did not approve. [2:18:44, 2:18:46]: The standard operating procedures for [2:18:46, 2:18:49]: But did they see but did they but did they see those? [2:18:50, 2:18:52]: Um [2:18:52, 2:18:54]: No, they did not review them. No. [2:18:55, 2:18:58]: Um, they saw him as part of his presentation. [2:18:58, 2:19:02]: that this is the way we were going as a replace to new standards in policing. [2:19:03, 2:19:08]: um which governs these things around chokes and um chases and so forth. [2:19:09, 2:19:19]: Um and it gets even more in depth than that. I think of the chief, correct me if I'm wrong, I think it's 15 modules each point had before I left had adopted all but two of them. [2:19:19, 2:19:23]: uh were in the process of doing a review on the two that they hadn't adopted as of the time I left. [2:19:24, 2:19:25]: Um [2:19:25, 2:19:34]: But this this is whole wholly with the chief of police in order for him to manage what is unlike any other department because they're not all made the same. [2:19:34, 2:19:37]: The police department is a paramilitary organization. [2:19:38, 2:19:58]: Whether you believe it or not, it is. They have chain of command that's totally different. Rules and responsibility. That's totally different from any other department outside of a fire department. That is the closest. I will say, Mr. Garden, you know, just this conversation helps me uh somewhat. I wish we could have had this uh a little before. And I just say going [2:19:58, 2:20:05]: forward. I just think this is the way we should operate um before the city council meeting. That's why I said chief, if you could always [2:20:06, 2:20:17]: So to get something to counsel beforehand and we could call you up and you could, you know, you could give us a lecture, you can give us all of the details and those kind of things so we can understand. [2:20:17, 2:20:29]: I'm sorry. And and I do and I do get that how policing is is different from another department, but it is. And and and and realize in any time any of those officers violate those policies. [2:20:29, 2:20:32]: then not only can be determined just from the city itself. [2:20:32, 2:20:34]: But they're they're open liable. [2:20:35, 2:20:39]: Um, unlike any other department, um, they're open liable to be in jail. [2:20:40, 2:20:47]: um for for violating policies. Um and so the checks and balances are there. Um [2:20:48, 2:20:54]: Will I read all six hundred pages? No, but I will check it in reference to what I know as part of [2:20:54, 2:21:02]: the twenty first century policing module. And I now mind you, yes, we've had been now on our second president since Obama, but that was one of the groundbreaking um [2:21:03, 2:21:06]: movements in policing across the country. [2:21:06, 2:21:08]: Um and so [2:21:08, 2:21:10]: You know, as Chief stated, I mean, we're [2:21:11, 2:21:28]: We're going to move prudent with with our policies and and stuff as we go. Like I said, most departments that have standard operating procedures within their departments, those are not approved by Mayor Council. I mean, Mayor Council is the legislative body, but you you turn the operations over to a manager under the council manager form of government. [2:21:28, 2:21:33]: And if we had to do that, it's that's micromanaging operations and nothing gets done. [2:21:33, 2:21:43]: Because then you gotta get four, five, six, seven, nine people, depending on how big your council is, to agree on what should be standard operating procedures for a department when [2:21:43, 2:21:47]: Nine times out of ten, those folks in our subject matter expert or anywhere near close. [2:21:48, 2:21:52]: No, I I no no I I agree with that whole holiday. Yeah, so it's just [2:21:53, 2:21:59]: Okay. Council member Councilmember, you you you have to have some faith in in the staff. [2:22:00, 2:22:03]: uh to do their jobs and when we don't [2:22:03, 2:22:14]: You hold us responsible. That's the way it works under the Council Manager Former Government is you hold me and you hold the chief responsible if if if there are things that go awry. [2:22:14, 2:22:29]: And and if those things aren't measured meted out and measured, then we do things wrong. And I and I've said this to a few of you guys. Well I guess the problem that I have with with that statement is uh just let me just hypothetical. [2:22:29, 2:22:31]: Uh Frank Tram is here. [2:22:31, 2:22:40]: For a couple years, and he decides to move on to another jurisdiction, and someone else comes in and then. [2:22:41, 2:22:49]: This person might have a whole different uh frame set, mind frame set, and then we have to go through that. But I I mean, I get it. I'm not gonna hog the rest of the meeting with that. [2:22:49, 2:22:59]: Um I wish I would have been able to have had this information beforehand and had that discussion. Understood. Understood, Councillor Council. [2:22:59, 2:23:03]: I'll I'll let some of the other council members out of way in. Uh [2:23:04, 2:23:05]: It just [2:23:05, 2:23:08]: I I just thought of have a problem with that. Um [2:23:10, 2:23:28]: with with this the with this process and I'm gonna let some of the other council members weigh in and I may have um a rebuttal here shortly but uh it j it just not sitting well with me right now because I I think policing today is is is just like you mentioned [2:23:28, 2:23:31]: Um it it's not easy. I know. [2:23:31, 2:23:35]: Um and they and it can be problematic if you don't [2:23:35, 2:23:46]: for if you don't put you know forward thinking into it. But I'm gonna yield man that's another council. Good deal. Council, council, stand by. Stand by, council. Mr. Berry, you had your hand up earlier. [2:23:47, 2:23:51]: Yeah, turning well yeah, I mean I took it down. I was just merely gonna offer the the [2:23:52, 2:23:56]: From the lawyer's perspective, and I I dealt with this at the city of Atlanta. [2:23:56, 2:24:05]: When I was there and and Atlanta City Council did not approve the Atlanta Police Department handbook or policies or procedures at all. [2:24:05, 2:24:11]: The only time that I ever dealt with it is arising out of a two thousand nine lawsuit that was pending for years. [2:24:11, 2:24:13]: over a failed raid at a nightclub. [2:24:14, 2:24:17]: But when a council approves policies [2:24:17, 2:24:21]: In the horrible and unfortunate situation that something goes wrong. [2:24:21, 2:24:25]: Such as a you know person dying in a a police chase. [2:24:25, 2:24:29]: I don't know if if Chief Chairman's gonna institute a no chase policy or [2:24:29, 2:24:30]: Someone is shot. [2:24:31, 2:24:32]: Or restrained and they die. [2:24:33, 2:24:36]: If council has approved those policies. [2:24:36, 2:24:39]: Council is then saying that is the stamp we [2:24:39, 2:24:42]: Approve these policies on behalf of the city. [2:24:42, 2:24:43]: And it makes them [2:24:44, 2:24:46]: sort of more legally binding. [2:24:46, 2:24:49]: As opposed to if they're just policies that Chief Tramor has signed off on. [2:24:50, 2:24:54]: So there may actually be very good reason for council to not approve policies. [2:24:54, 2:24:57]: To frankly immunize or protect council. [2:24:57, 2:24:59]: Or protect the city itself. [2:24:59, 2:25:02]: As not having signed off on policies. [2:25:02, 2:25:03]: So I understand. [2:25:04, 2:25:06]: Mayor Protem Thomas of course. [2:25:06, 2:25:09]: And everybody's desire to be involved with the policies, and I I [2:25:10, 2:25:13]: would encourage regardless of this outcome of the this vote or conversation. [2:25:13, 2:25:15]: To speak to Chief Tramor. [2:25:15, 2:25:21]: uh to understand the various policies and and uh the city manager of what may or may not be implemented. [2:25:21, 2:25:24]: But in terms of council giving its its seal of approval. [2:25:25, 2:25:30]: That creates all sorts of legal liabilities for council in the city that I'm not sure you you may actually want. [2:25:30, 2:25:33]: In the unfortunate situation that someone dies or [2:25:33, 2:25:45]: Or, you know, something like that happens with the city. So I just wanted to come at it from a different perspective and offer legal advice. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. So stand by. Thank you, sir. Mr. Alexander, go ahead, please. [2:25:45, 2:25:53]: Yes. Uh this conversation's been very interesting. And then just uh listening to the points of Mayor Pro Tin, we have a lot of [2:25:53, 2:25:58]: uh you know, information coming our way. Certainly the council wants to be [2:25:58, 2:26:08]: uh in terms of uh understanding what the policies and procedures are. And uh I think uh what really i it is is that once these um [2:26:09, 2:26:14]: policies and procedures are approved according to those guidelines. [2:26:14, 2:26:18]: Actually, if we did involve ourselves, it might compromise. [2:26:18, 2:26:22]: the actual uh certification process itself. [2:26:22, 2:26:28]: Because they're looking to uh from what I understand that these templates are being used. [2:26:28, 2:26:30]: As best practices from [2:26:30, 2:26:33]: uh manuals and established professionals who've done this. [2:26:34, 2:26:38]: And certainly with some of the legal rulings in the state of Georgia. [2:26:39, 2:26:59]: involving ourselves, put ourselves at legal legal jeopardy and for us to be personally sued for setting a particular policy, whereas if the chief sets the policy, then I uh I perfectly understand uh where he's going because you know with the with the Brookhaven situation with the city manager. [2:26:59, 2:27:02]: Uh and uh a staff member uh now [2:27:03, 2:27:06]: In two ho two hundred thousand dollars in legal jeopardy. [2:27:06, 2:27:14]: I certainly don't think any of us want to find ourselves in that position. And I think that's the thing that we certainly have to be cognizant of and certainly [2:27:15, 2:27:19]: uh need to be uh reviewed upon. I I certainly want to look at [2:27:19, 2:27:29]: some of the things that we talked about previously, such as uh the citizens council or review board to be able to uh have to make sure that the people [2:27:29, 2:27:34]: the people are heard from and that they uh uh have a voice at the table. [2:27:35, 2:27:46]: Now we certainly represent the voice, but the people need their own voice and the citizen review counselor board actually does that. So hand in hand with allowing the chief to have this. [2:27:46, 2:27:47]: particular authority. [2:27:48, 2:28:08]: We certainly need to make sure that we're moving forward with the citizens' uh review board and tasking the city manager or legal to put that together to make sure that the citizens. And the first thing that the chief said to us is that he wanted to make sure that this was in partnership with the citizens. And that's that's [2:28:07, 2:28:21]: what we'll do. We'll certainly make sure that he is the uh you know the professional and the uh expert in terms of what's happening but he needs uh he needs uh to hear from [2:28:21, 2:28:23]: Those individuals on the review board. [2:28:24, 2:28:28]: Uh, so that he uh stays very well connected to the community, as I'm sure. [2:28:29, 2:28:30]: Uh, he intends to do. [2:28:31, 2:28:33]: So that is the second piece of the puzzle. [2:28:33, 2:28:36]: uh the citizens review board to go along with. [2:28:36, 2:28:41]: Allowing the chief, which is to follow what is standards. So it sounds like from what I've heard so far. [2:28:42, 2:28:43]: If we went outside that [2:28:43, 2:28:45]: We would be the outlier. [2:28:46, 2:28:58]: in terms of where we're going versus what everybody else is doing. And in this line of work, I certainly don't want it said that I I signed off on a policy that cost somebody their life. [2:28:58, 2:29:02]: And I'm not an expert on this is of d these particular areas, so [2:29:02, 2:29:22]: Um in terms of I think when the past mayor we had uh uh what maybe like some type of review on a yearly basis, maybe some committee type of situation on the staff side uh for the city side to look at. Uh we had the public safety committee uh from the city side where they gave us some type. [2:29:22, 2:29:26]: to you know some regular updates and reviews to look at [2:29:26, 2:29:29]: In terms of that, but I don't want to put my hand in that pot of [2:29:30, 2:29:32]: Where we're going in terms of actually. [2:29:32, 2:29:35]: uh oh these policies so [2:29:35, 2:29:45]: Certainly I I I I came in with an open mind to look at this, but based on the conversation that I've heard tonight, I certainly don't wanna put myself in a position of being [2:29:46, 2:29:49]: uh ac l le uh legally um [2:29:50, 2:30:10]: uh at at risk for a policy that uh the city sets. Yeah. Well I will tell you a citizen review board is a great thing. I know we'll do and we'll end up doing that, implementing that process. But the other thing is uh the the police department is a subset to the council. So otherwise the department has so I would think on a quarterly basis the police chief will come before the council [2:30:10, 2:30:21]: anyway and give some type of update and briefing and that'd be appropriate time, I would imagine, ask any questions or get some type of feedback or conversation about those policies and procedures anyway. Just have some open discussion. So I would imagine. [2:30:22, 2:30:26]: And it's something that we look at a quarterly basis. On that note, Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [2:30:27, 2:30:31]: Thank you, Mayor. Um w one of the things we have to continue to look at. [2:30:32, 2:30:41]: Is that when we ask any department, you you you got something we op that's operational for us, and then you have a uh what you what I would call [2:30:41, 2:30:45]: You know, a whole different entity that this city hasn't had since we've been here. [2:30:45, 2:30:53]: And that's what you ask for in ordinary is a is a policy procedure uh manual. That's what the chiefs get ready to implement. [2:30:54, 2:31:02]: And when those policies have to change, I don't need to know that they that the Chiefs are gonna change a policy where they have to button the shirts up all the way to the net. [2:31:02, 2:31:17]: All of these kind of things. We should not get into micromanaging those policies and procedures. And I agree with Mr. Gardner, I agree with Mr. Alexander and whoever said uh said that we have to be carefully cautious that we're not micromanaging any department here. [2:31:18, 2:31:24]: Policies and this the the presentation was a policy procedures uh for a manual. [2:31:24, 2:31:26]: The chief has to create this manual. [2:31:27, 2:31:47]: And periodically an SOP has to go out when things change, when he sees something that needs to be implemented. And let me tell you something, one of the things about policing and chief uh chief training, you can correct me. If he go outside the guidelines of any standard operating procedures that would uh uh be a conflict to state or federal laws, they could lose their post certifications. [2:31:47, 2:31:53]: So it's not just just the city of Stockbridge they couldn't work for. They they won't be post-certified. [2:31:53, 2:32:01]: And you correct me if I'm wrong, Chief. So we have to trust the staff that we put in place that they're going to do what's the what they what they're asked to do. [2:32:01, 2:32:15]: And that's to create policies and procedures. If Mr. Aaron comes to us and tell us public works in certain areas, he's gonna create a policy that certain areas need two uh storm drains instead of one. Who is this counsel to say they don't know anything about it? Yes or no? [2:32:16, 2:32:19]: Who was to say about policing if you don't know, yes or no? [2:32:20, 2:32:28]: So updates is is is updates are really what we need to be getting from the police chief, whether whether it's quarter or however that comes. [2:32:28, 2:32:37]: Instead of sitting back and saying we're going to approve or disapprove a policy that could that can move the department forward, that's what we have a city manager for. That's what we got different staff for. [2:32:38, 2:32:42]: We as a council have to sit back and allow the people like the you know, like what was that whoever said it. [2:32:43, 2:32:47]: To do what we hired'em for. And if it doesn't do what we hired'em for, then we put somebody else in that position. [2:32:48, 2:32:55]: But we have to give that person the opportunity to use every tool and and use the knowledge they have to move this city forward in those various departments. [2:32:56, 2:33:05]: And if certain positive procedures, I got a clear understanding when I talk to you, Mr. Trama, uh Chief Trayman today. I I got a clear understanding when I talk to you, Mr. Gardner today. [2:33:06, 2:33:11]: So you got questions, just ask those questions. But we have to step aside and let those professionals that we have hired. [2:33:12, 2:33:14]: And that we're paying to do a job, let them do the job. [2:33:15, 2:33:17]: So I'm I'm I'm ready to approve this tonight. [2:33:18, 2:33:19]: Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [2:33:24, 2:33:25]: Thank you, Mayor. [2:33:26, 2:33:27]: Okay, first thing. [2:33:28, 2:33:37]: Chief Tramor, through that organization for your standard policies and procedures, you mentioned a 20% insurance discount. [2:33:38, 2:33:41]: That's correct. If we if we were to move over to Gurma. [2:33:42, 2:33:49]: for is the insurance provider would be eligible by virtue of certification for a twenty percent uh decrease on our insurance premiums. [2:33:50, 2:33:52]: Through Gurma. [2:33:52, 2:33:59]: So have we um compared that cost with what our existing cost is? [2:34:01, 2:34:04]: No, that's that's unfortunately way outside of my wheelhouse. [2:34:05, 2:34:06]: Okay, Mr. Gardner. [2:34:08, 2:34:10]: Can we compare the costs? [2:34:11, 2:34:17]: of what it would be under Garma versus what we currently have. [2:34:17, 2:34:22]: So so the police department will carry liability insurance. [2:34:22, 2:34:24]: Um and I will tell you that. [2:34:25, 2:34:33]: Um, with the insurance under Gurma, it will be cheaper than if we go out on the wholesale market for that risk insurance. [2:34:33, 2:34:35]: Um that's that's a given. [2:34:35, 2:34:43]: Um rarely do they rarely are they able to match um what they're doing through grammar because it's as and grammar is true GME. [2:34:44, 2:34:46]: Um, which is the Georgia Municipal Association. [2:34:47, 2:34:50]: Um but currently I thought that [2:34:50, 2:35:00]: We're insured we're insured different. We're insured through the open market. If that's if it is the wish of council to want us to to ask us to address or to investigate. [2:35:01, 2:35:03]: moving to to Grma. [2:35:04, 2:35:13]: um through GMA, um we would gladly do that and bring that back to to council if that's a wish. But we we hadn't moved in that direction as of yet. Um [2:35:14, 2:35:19]: Obviously because we're probably still on our current liability contract, but I will get with [2:35:19, 2:35:23]: Um Vanessa to find out because at some point when we bring this on. [2:35:24, 2:35:27]: One of the recommendations you guys would get for me, um [2:35:27, 2:35:30]: before the end of the month as I finish my three months here. [2:35:31, 2:35:35]: Is that we're going to have to look at bringing on a a professional risk manager. [2:35:35, 2:35:42]: Um, as we grow our department police department, because they will have fender benders, they will get involved in accidents. [2:35:43, 2:35:47]: Um that's just a given that that's happens everywhere and that level of risk. [2:35:48, 2:35:52]: Um even as we do public works, take home all public works projects, same thing. [2:35:52, 2:36:03]: Um, that risk goes up and we have to make sure that we're mitigating our risk. And that manager has to be out on site in some cases to make sure that they're following rules and proceedings as it relates to safety. [2:36:03, 2:36:04]: Um so [2:36:05, 2:36:08]: We will investigate that if that's the wish of council to [2:36:09, 2:36:13]: um quickly offset and say Mr Garden investigate that, we will definitely do that. [2:36:14, 2:36:29]: Absolutely. Um that's the only way I will approve this. I want us to be able to compare the costs. Um just just so that we know. Um and that's a side and and and and council member, that's a that's a that's a side a subset of I mean what Chief is is doing. [2:36:29, 2:36:49]: Um that once we put these policies and procedures in in place, yes, we will get a reduction. Um, no different than if we had a fire department and our fire department institute along with public works and the water um standards, we can change our ISO rating would have gone from whatever that number was, a four to a one, and that of [2:36:49, 2:36:56]: affects every homeowner and every every business that carry liability insurance in the city as a whole. [2:36:56, 2:37:00]: So Henry County guides that. I think uh Henry County is a ISO one. [2:37:00, 2:37:01]: Um [2:37:01, 2:37:03]: I think there may be either one or two. [2:37:03, 2:37:04]: Um [2:37:04, 2:37:10]: And that helps each and any each each and every individual homeowner and business. Um here. [2:37:11, 2:37:21]: that liability helps us. And so we'll in we'll look at that and investigate and talk to GMA about what it would take to participate under Gurm under the Gurman program. Um I know when I was in [2:37:22, 2:37:24]: Uh East Point we did not. Um [2:37:25, 2:37:26]: McDonough, we were [2:37:26, 2:37:27]: Um [2:37:28, 2:37:30]: Griffin, we were on the Gurma. [2:37:30, 2:37:32]: Um, Villarica, we will not. [2:37:32, 2:37:38]: Um and uh obviously Henry County was ACCG and then the rest of my experience was out of state. [2:37:38, 2:37:45]: But definitely we are looking to that to see if we could get involved with that and potentially lower our our risk insurance. [2:37:45, 2:37:51]: Okay, I'd like to make a motion for that after we finish the discussion of this item. [2:37:52, 2:37:53]: Um [2:37:53, 2:37:54]: My [2:37:54, 2:37:57]: Second uh question I wanted to ask Chief Tramer. [2:37:58, 2:38:00]: Um the other cities in Henry County. [2:38:01, 2:38:04]: Are they all governed or regulated by the same? [2:38:04, 2:38:05]: Organization. [2:38:05, 2:38:07]: Or someone else. [2:38:09, 2:38:13]: I I would have to look specifically. I mean, I could get you that information. Um [2:38:15, 2:38:23]: Here in short order, just by virtue of a quick search. I believe that uh Henry County is a state accredited agency. I believe that McDonough is. I'm not [2:38:23, 2:38:24]: Henry County's not. [2:38:25, 2:38:28]: No, McDonough, I don't know, I'm not sure if McDonough is in the county, yes. [2:38:29, 2:38:34]: I know Chief Chief Preston was working towards that when I was there with the city of McDonald, but I don't know if they ever got it. [2:38:40, 2:38:45]: Okay, miss uh Miss Barber, he's gonna check that out. If you if that's your last question, I'm gonna move on. [2:38:46, 2:38:48]: A few more actually, if I may. Um [2:38:49, 2:38:51]: So it was my understanding. [2:38:51, 2:38:52]: Um [2:38:52, 2:38:55]: Чиф Тремор уз гана брис полісі то. [2:38:56, 2:38:57]: Earlier this year. [2:38:57, 2:39:00]: uh or the latter part of last year. [2:39:00, 2:39:04]: We wanted to hold off until we got a new city manager on board. [2:39:04, 2:39:06]: Mr. Gardner is here now. So I'd much [2:39:07, 2:39:08]: I would feel comfortable. [2:39:09, 2:39:15]: knowing that at least the city manager has eyes on this whenever there are changes that are [2:39:15, 2:39:16]: Bing Bang. [2:39:17, 2:39:20]: Um the other question that I have though. [2:39:20, 2:39:21]: Is vehicle [2:39:21, 2:39:23]: Вігал юз. [2:39:23, 2:39:26]: Is that also a part of this policy? [2:39:27, 2:39:28]: Or is that separate? [2:39:29, 2:39:40]: Yes, that was that was separately approved by council if you recall. We had to do that because we had to make a decision on that from a you know from a recruiting standpoint. But that policy basically would be included within the overall. [2:39:41, 2:39:42]: Police Department policy. [2:39:42, 2:39:50]: Gotcha. So that lets me know that there are certain aspects of this policy that will need to come to the council. [2:39:50, 2:39:53]: For us to review and approve. [2:39:53, 2:39:55]: Um the V. [2:39:55, 2:39:57]: Uh I'm sorry, Councilwoman, please. [2:39:59, 2:40:07]: I was just going to say that was the reason for the uh the financial threshold there. Obviously, I'm not in a position to obligate the city to [2:40:08, 2:40:15]: Um you know, anything by virtue of implementing a policy to say, hey, we're gonna do this, and then there's a financial ramification to that. [2:40:16, 2:40:25]: as is the case with a take home vehicle. I can't say, well, we're gonna have a take home vehicle policy and we're gonna give take home vehicles. That's gonna cost the city, you know, X, Y, Z and dollars. [2:40:25, 2:40:31]: So um I was intentional in the wording there to ensure that anything that had a financial impact. [2:40:31, 2:40:38]: uh greater than my ability to be able to approve that that would then have to come before the council for consideration. [2:40:39, 2:40:40]: Gotcha. [2:40:40, 2:40:44]: Um and the last thing I want to put out. So [2:40:44, 2:40:51]: Explain again um the difference between the Citizens Advisory Board and the Citizens Review Board. [2:40:51, 2:40:56]: Um, I believe it's important at this time the council uh needs to enact. [2:40:56, 2:40:59]: Um one of these or both of these boards. [2:41:00, 2:41:01]: Möporn går det. [2:41:01, 2:41:08]: Stand by, stand by please. What's the point of this is not the agenda item. [2:41:09, 2:41:11]: Well the item was protected. [2:41:12, 2:41:14]: Therefore. Yes, ma'am. [2:41:14, 2:41:19]: I said patiently everybody to talk to Go ahead and ask your question. Go ahead and ask your question now. Go ahead. [2:41:20, 2:41:24]: Um Chief Tramer, can you please explain? [2:41:24, 2:41:29]: the difference between the citizen advisory board and the citizen review board. [2:41:31, 2:41:31]: So [2:41:32, 2:41:34]: A a a review board actually [2:41:35, 2:41:36]: Um in [2:41:36, 2:41:40]: The attorneys you can chime in and help out with this if you want to, if I misstate this, but [2:41:41, 2:41:49]: Uh a review board actually has the ability to make recommendations for disciplinary actions and things along those lines. [2:41:49, 2:41:54]: An advisory board is more of an oversight board. It's an opportunity for citizens to [2:41:55, 2:41:58]: way into to be involved in terms of policy development. [2:41:58, 2:42:03]: and and uh things that impact public safety in the community. [2:42:03, 2:42:07]: But there's there there's nothing binding um [2:42:08, 2:42:10]: per se as it relates to them. So [2:42:10, 2:42:22]: That that's I guess I would simplify that. Attorney Berry, did you wanna or attorney Washington? Correct Chief. Uh council member, the advisory board, as Chief said, is is input on policies and you know whatever else. [2:42:22, 2:42:24]: The chief of the police or [2:42:24, 2:42:28]: City manager or council members, whoever wanna go to the the Citizens Review Board. [2:42:29, 2:42:34]: as the name suggests, actually reviews conduct of officers uh or incidents. [2:42:35, 2:42:37]: So it's it's uh [2:42:37, 2:42:41]: You know, determining whether there was a violation or anything happened improper. [2:42:42, 2:42:43]: Um [2:42:44, 2:42:48]: Yeah, rather than providing input to the to the police. [2:42:50, 2:42:51]: Thank you. [2:42:51, 2:42:51]: Yeah. [2:42:51, 2:42:57]: And if I could to that point, I know Mayor Pro Tem, you mentioned earlier that we talked about that. [2:42:57, 2:43:03]: And that it's not come to fruition. And I just want to make sure everybody, including the citizens that are listening tonight. [2:43:03, 2:43:10]: They know that we're gonna make good on our promises for those advisory councils to bring the community together, be involved in the process of co-producing public safety. [2:43:11, 2:43:18]: Uh we have been, uh I promise you, hard at work at trying to stand this police department up to have it operational for July first. [2:43:18, 2:43:23]: And um there's a lot of work, a lot of work that goes on behind the scenes. [2:43:23, 2:43:28]: Um in a lot of things that we're trying to move forward. And so uh in terms of prioritizing work. [2:43:29, 2:43:34]: We are first off making sure that we can meet that promise we made to the citizens of July first implementation. [2:43:35, 2:43:41]: So there is again a tremendous amount of effort and um different things that have to be done in order to make this happen. [2:43:41, 2:43:44]: And so I just want to make it um clear. [2:43:44, 2:43:46]: that we are we are [2:43:46, 2:43:51]: as committed as ever is involving this community in that process. And because things haven't happened. [2:43:51, 2:43:56]: Um, as quickly as we might like, I just want to make sure that that commitment is known. [2:43:57, 2:44:00]: Thank you, Chief. Ms. Barber, is that your last question? [2:44:00, 2:44:20]: Actually, I wanted to make um a series of motions if I can. Well, could you stand by please? If we still got a few other things. Mr. Ms. uh Chief, were you able to find out that information about those other cities and whether or not they're certified yet? Yes, sir, I was. The only city in Henry County that is not uh state certified is Locust Grove at the moment. [2:44:20, 2:44:21]: And then of course. [2:44:22, 2:44:27]: we would have to go through that process to become it's a process to be state certified, but we certainly want to move towards that. [2:44:28, 2:44:35]: I do want to be the only city in Henry County who's Calia certified as we move forward towards national certification. [2:44:35, 2:44:40]: Um, that's a goal of ours. And so we want to be uh leading the charge as it relates to that, which means that. [2:44:41, 2:44:48]: Not just 139 standards. Now we have two hundred and seventy some odd standards that now we adhere to that are national best practices. [2:44:49, 2:44:52]: Okay. Ms. Gantt, go ahead, please. [2:44:53, 2:45:07]: Thank you. Um, Chief, I did read on US Department of Justice Office of Community Oriented Policing while this was all going on, I was researching um, because we did get this kind of last minute. [2:45:07, 2:45:15]: And I think it's unusual that we, you know, get titles and and not actual the actual policy, regardless of the amount of pages it is. [2:45:15, 2:45:17]: Um that we have access to it. [2:45:18, 2:45:19]: But um [2:45:19, 2:45:26]: Based off of the United States Department of Justice and that community office policing of starting up a new police department, it does state. [2:45:26, 2:45:29]: That the police chief does implement. [2:45:29, 2:45:36]: And write those policies. Um, that's all I really wanted to know at the time when I originally asked, because. [2:45:37, 2:45:39]: Um this is new to me. Um [2:45:40, 2:45:46]: And I think it's it's new to all of us. We haven't had a police department since nineteen seventy-seven, forty-five years ago. [2:45:46, 2:45:55]: So I really think that it's important that although these are things that we are going to implement or or we approve. [2:45:55, 2:46:01]: That we do have the information ahead of time and that we do receive a copy of the policy, even if [2:46:01, 2:46:04]: Um, you know, because it's still our business. It's still [2:46:05, 2:46:14]: our city and we are we still want to make sure that we're abreast of everything. We usually we do that at retreats and and get updates. Um [2:46:14, 2:46:27]: But I wanted to know whether or not that was the right policy procedure, never heard of that before. We have had HR come to us with and ask Baron Council to approve policies and procedures. [2:46:27, 2:46:28]: To include [2:46:29, 2:46:40]: um technology or IT or something they're doing within themselves or what they do, what the staff is able to do and not do. So I didn't think that it was odd. [2:46:40, 2:46:41]: Um [2:46:42, 2:46:55]: I I don't think that we don't receive that. We do. We've had to vote on policies and procedures before for other um departments. And that's why I asked. But based off the United States Department of Justice and the [2:46:56, 2:47:05]: manual and basics on what it is and how to start up a police department. It does state that the police of police of chief pol police chief. [2:47:05, 2:47:15]: does write and implement those policies. And having read that, um, if that would have been a part of the presentation, I would have easily voted. And now I'm in favor of it. [2:47:16, 2:47:22]: Okay, Councilwoman Gantt, if I could speak just briefly to your point for a moment, I want wanted to be known that [2:47:22, 2:47:25]: None of these things are going to be a mystery to anybody. As soon as these are developed. [2:47:26, 2:47:29]: You all will have access to these. As a matter of fact, I've mentioned before [2:47:29, 2:47:34]: In full transparency to the community, our policies and procedures will be on our website, so we don't have anything to hide. [2:47:35, 2:47:41]: Any member of the community can look at our policies and procedures and see what our standard operating procedures and practices are. [2:47:43, 2:47:47]: I appreciate that. And yes, I I wouldn't expect that, but if we're gonna get a presentation. [2:47:48, 2:48:08]: I would want to have the policies and procedures up front. It's just something maybe we will want to make a suggestion about it. Um, but I I didn't know whether or not whose job that was to approve or whether it was something taken outside of, you know, wait a minute, we're the legislative body. So um having read that and [2:48:07, 2:48:16]: Knowing that that is now the proper policies, the proper protocol, I'm in favor of that. But we didn't know that before, and we just got. [2:48:16, 2:48:21]: handed this page of titles saying, oh, we're gonna implement all these policies. [2:48:23, 2:48:24]: That's all. All right. [2:48:25, 2:48:35]: Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. Uh Mayor I'm I'm gonna close with this one. And I just want the chief to know that, and he knows this, that I supported the Star Ridge Police Department from the beginning. [2:48:35, 2:48:38]: Uh and I guess I'm the only one here on this council. [2:48:39, 2:48:41]: Um that was an adult. [2:48:42, 2:48:45]: When the city of Stockbridge had a police department before. [2:48:45, 2:48:47]: And and and I know what happened. [2:48:48, 2:48:52]: uh as well as what happened in henry county with the henry county police department. [2:48:52, 2:48:53]: So [2:48:54, 2:48:57]: My fear and my concern is based on [2:48:57, 2:48:57]: History. [2:48:58, 2:49:00]: And and one thing that I'm a history buff. [2:49:01, 2:49:03]: I think we have to learn. [2:49:04, 2:49:08]: from our past in order for us to go forward. [2:49:08, 2:49:11]: That's why I'm speaking the way I'm speaking and I hope that [2:49:11, 2:49:15]: Um that we we the sit of style's learn. [2:49:15, 2:49:17]: uh from that past because [2:49:17, 2:49:19]: If any of you would hear what [2:49:20, 2:49:22]: When we had the Stockbridge Police Department [2:49:23, 2:49:29]: You will know why I'm speaking the way I'm speaking. And and and and we trust it. [2:49:30, 2:49:34]: Uh our city officials, we we trusted the police department, but [2:49:35, 2:49:35]: Um [2:49:37, 2:49:57]: That was a lot of issues. So uh I just appreciate the information, Chief, and uh Mr. Gardner. And I think as we all said before, uh, if we can sort of streamline some of these processes with information, uh being able to um you know discuss some of these things at a true work session. [2:49:57, 2:50:05]: et cetera, et cetera. I I think it would do us well, you know, in moving forward. Uh the only thing I say is we we have to get it right. [2:50:06, 2:50:14]: Oftentimes when we do work hard, we you know we still don't get it right. But I'm just saying, Chief, um, and as you all know. [2:50:15, 2:50:18]: Policing is very difficult in 2022. [2:50:18, 2:50:26]: And I just want us to just make sure that we do the best that we can to make sure that the city of Stybridge Police Department. [2:50:26, 2:50:29]: It is exactly what we really want it to be. [2:50:29, 2:50:31]: Course there's gonna be some incidents. We know that. [2:50:32, 2:50:35]: Um, but hopefully, you know, we can minimize that and [2:50:35, 2:50:39]: We can just still go far and put a good product out there on the streets instead of stockbridge. [2:50:39, 2:50:40]: Thank you, sir. [2:50:40, 2:50:42]: Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [2:50:46, 2:50:47]: You muted, sir. [2:50:47, 2:50:51]: Yeah, I had to get it off of me, but the thing won't move all the time. Um [2:50:52, 2:50:59]: Mayor, with what uh what what the chief has said, and I understand that that what he's doing, the standard operating procedures. [2:51:00, 2:51:05]: Uh and Mr. Gardiner um has as our city manager. [2:51:06, 2:51:11]: That we've hired said that what what's going on is standard operating procedure. Mr. Gardner. [2:51:12, 2:51:15]: Uh, how many police officers did the state of Eastpawn have? [2:51:17, 2:51:20]: Uh budgeted for a hundred and [2:51:21, 2:51:23]: Fifth hundred and twenty four, hundred and fifteen. [2:51:24, 2:51:26]: Three times as big as this department. [2:51:27, 2:51:41]: I have to trust our city manager. I and I know the procedures are when you're writing SOPs in departments, especially when it comes to uh public safety and uh with with policing and and and managing that, that those SOPs come out. [2:51:42, 2:51:43]: Can be very [2:51:43, 2:51:52]: Chief Trevor said he's going to keep us abreast of everything that happens. He doesn't have to come to us with everything that he does when it comes to these policy procedures, or we're going to be. [2:51:52, 2:52:06]: Doing this all the time. So with that being said, I'd like to make a motion to approve. Stand stand by, sir. Stand by. Somebody else has already mentioned that they want to make a motion. Stand by. I've I've delayed it. So we get stand by. I'm going to Miss Barber. If that's the case. Miss Barber, what's your motion? [2:52:08, 2:52:18]: Motion to approve the recommendation of Chief Tramer for the authority to implement andor amend police department policies and procedures. [2:52:18, 2:52:21]: with review by legal counsel as appropriate. [2:52:22, 2:52:28]: Exclusive policies and pre procedures with a financial impact greater than five thousand dollars. [2:52:28, 2:52:29]: Hi. [2:52:30, 2:52:36]: Okay, Mr. Alzheimer's second that okay any further discussion? We've had plenty. All right. All in favor of that motion, please indicate. [2:52:37, 2:52:39]: Okay, is is actually a unanimous decision. [2:52:40, 2:52:41]: Okay, I'll stand it. [2:52:41, 2:52:43]: Yes, ma'am, go ahead, please. [2:52:43, 2:52:44]: I have um [2:52:44, 2:52:46]: A couple more um [2:52:47, 2:52:50]: motions I'd like to make. The first one is to task staff with preparing [2:52:51, 2:53:01]: and posting applications um for stakeholders, citizens, mayor point of order. Come on, Mayor. We gotta amend the agenda for these items. Possible. [2:53:01, 2:53:09]: Stand by please to enact the Citizen Advisory Board and the Citizen Review Board. [2:53:10, 2:53:13]: So we can start receiving in those applications now. [2:53:15, 2:53:15]: All right, so [2:53:16, 2:53:25]: So this is something that once again, I I don't know if whether or not stand by say Ms. Holly, did you understand all that? Did you get all that? Did you need to be restated? [2:53:26, 2:53:28]: What I got um was that um [2:53:29, 2:53:31]: The motion is to task staff with preparing [2:53:32, 2:53:38]: To accept applications to enact the Citizens Review Board and the Citizens Advisory Board. Is that correct? [2:53:38, 2:53:39]: That is correct. [2:53:39, 2:53:52]: All right. Okay. Mayor Protam second the motion. I got it. Any further discussion? Yeah, Mayor. I'm sorry. Is it [2:53:52, 2:53:55]: And I'm fine with whatever sh but isn't the proper procedure. [2:53:56, 2:54:01]: That we have to amend the agenda to add that item and then vote on that item. We can't just [2:54:01, 2:54:08]: We can't just bring items in. We have to amend vote to amend the agenda, agenda, and then vote on that item. [2:54:08, 2:54:20]: We can't this we we're operating we can't operate like this. Stand by, stand by, stand by. The motion uh our attorneys, you heard the motion. Can that motion be made or is there something that needs to be added to agenda and then made? [2:54:22, 2:54:25]: I'd like to confer with attorney Berry and uh Mr. Garden Pop Witzing. [2:54:26, 2:54:28]: All right, go write it, please. Stand by. [2:54:30, 2:54:34]: Uh Ms Ms. Mayor, as as they are conferring [2:54:36, 2:54:37]: Go ahead, sir. [2:54:38, 2:54:42]: Uh I I I think the mayor as the presiding officer of of the meeting. [2:54:43, 2:54:46]: I I do think you have that latitude, but I think um [2:54:46, 2:54:49]: So I think the attorneys may answer that shortly. [2:54:49, 2:54:49]: Okay. [2:54:50, 2:54:50]: So be it. [2:54:51, 2:54:56]: Mr. Gardner, your hand's up. Go ahead. Yes, ma'am. Uh do we wanna do [2:54:57, 2:55:01]: Both are or one of the other. I think um [2:55:02, 2:55:04]: The chief did it mention the advisory board. [2:55:05, 2:55:05]: Um [2:55:05, 2:55:07]: was um [2:55:07, 2:55:11]: One of them that that did he did he um looked at. [2:55:11, 2:55:14]: Um I'm not sure as to [2:55:14, 2:55:16]: Are we doing both boards?'Cause [2:55:17, 2:55:17]: Yes. [2:55:17, 2:55:18]: Yeah. [2:55:18, 2:55:20]: That okay. [2:55:20, 2:55:25]: Well, she she says yes. I don't know. T uh what uh what Chief Mr. Tramor Chief Tremors here. What do you think, Chief? [2:55:26, 2:55:28]: This deals with your responsibility. [2:55:28, 2:55:37]: Well let me let me just say this. I think I think an advisory board, absolutely. That's something that the community needs to be involved in. As we mentioned before, my vision was [2:55:37, 2:55:49]: When you appoint an advisory board, then you have obviously like with any other board, you have certain members of the community that are part of that. Now, those community members may come from different segments of the community, but they all could come from [2:55:50, 2:55:55]: one area of the community and then you don't have the full spectrum of the community's concerns being represented. [2:55:55, 2:55:59]: So my vision was to have separate advisory councils. [2:55:59, 2:56:05]: that were geographically based, much similar to what's being moved forward with council districts, so that [2:56:05, 2:56:22]: Issues that are occurring in Eagle's Landing are appropriately addressed by that advisory council and issues that are happening in the northern part of the city are appropriately being addressed by that advisory council. And furthermore, what that does is it expands citizen participation in oversight of things that impact them in their community. [2:56:23, 2:56:28]: I'm not immediately uh fond of moving forward with a review board. [2:56:28, 2:56:36]: Uh, because I think there has to be additional discussion as to what the parameters are of the review board. When you implement a review board, that means that you have citizens in the community. [2:56:37, 2:56:45]: Who now can enact disciplinary action or they can take action as it relates to things that are happening within the police department. So I think that. [2:56:46, 2:56:52]: That just requires it's not that I'm that I'm opposed to it. I think that it requires further discussion as to what the parameters [2:56:52, 2:56:54]: Of that is going to be. [2:56:55, 2:56:56]: All right. Thank you. [2:56:56, 2:56:58]: It's so um [2:56:59, 2:57:00]: All I'm saying is [2:57:01, 2:57:03]: Post and advertise for both. [2:57:04, 2:57:09]: Of course, these city attorneys um based on [2:57:10, 2:57:15]: the number of individuals or what the requirements and qualifications are. [2:57:16, 2:57:18]: The city attorneys will have to determine that. [2:57:18, 2:57:21]: Um, I guess based on state law, I don't know. [2:57:22, 2:57:25]: But all I'm saying is post and advertise them. [2:57:26, 2:57:26]: Right now. [2:57:27, 2:57:33]: Um when we when those boards actually um convene. [2:57:34, 2:57:39]: the council can discuss that. And I certainly hope that Chief Tramer. [2:57:39, 2:57:41]: um is going to be a part of [2:57:41, 2:57:49]: Evaluating and reviewing these applications. It looks like everybody has disappeared from the screen. I mean, Mr. Gardner. [2:57:50, 2:57:53]: Uh well they're discussing they're discussing this issue. They'll be back. [2:57:54, 2:58:00]: Wait is she finished? Is she finished first of all? [2:58:01, 2:58:02]: You you finished, Ms. Palmer? [2:58:02, 2:58:10]: Um yes, but I have two more motions that I want to bring forward to. Well, don't bring those up just yet. Hold them for a second. Mr. Ms. [2:58:11, 2:58:17]: Well, I certainly agree with that assessment. Again, both of the boards could be passed now and that some the council will determine. [2:58:17, 2:58:20]: uh when uh they will be implemented. [2:58:20, 2:58:37]: And understanding this, just like some of the other boards, like the ethics board works, uh, you could also have the review council be a recommending board versus versus what the chief described, which is a di I'm not sure if we want them issuing the discipline we will make. [2:58:37, 2:58:40]: Re take recommendations on what the [2:58:40, 2:58:50]: incident have versus uh actually inserting the discipline. So I think that that discussion will be had down the line with taking the applications, certainly we could do that. [2:58:51, 2:58:57]: All right, gentlemen, you're back. What's what's the what's the verdict here on on what we can do what we need to do or can't do or should do. [2:58:58, 2:59:09]: That this is an up or down issue that needs to be voted on and that if you all wish to amend the agenda, you would need to amend the agenda and have the resolution for the creation of these. [2:59:11, 2:59:23]: Okay. So the two the two boards that she's put a motion in you're saying that we to have that discussion, we need amended agenda to talk about it and then decide whether or not uh to implement these two programs. Is that what you're getting there? [2:59:23, 2:59:24]: Yes. [2:59:24, 2:59:34]: Okay, Mayor Ford, I'd like to amend the agenda to add a discussion regarding the Citizen Advisory Board and the Citizen Review Board. [2:59:34, 2:59:38]: Oh second, second, Ms. Alexander second that all in favor, please indicate. [2:59:40, 2:59:42]: All right. All right. So now she says okay now. [2:59:43, 2:59:51]: Mayor Ford, if there is no other discussions in regards to this particular item, I'd like to call for the vote. [2:59:51, 2:59:55]: Well re restate your restate your motion now. Now we added two agenda. Restate your motion, please. [2:59:55, 2:59:58]: Um to test staff with [2:59:59, 3:00:00]: Drafting or preparing [3:00:01, 3:00:02]: The advertisements. [3:00:03, 3:00:04]: And posting it. [3:00:05, 3:00:08]: For stakeholders um to apply. [3:00:09, 3:00:12]: For the citizen advisory board. [3:00:12, 3:00:14]: And Citizen Review Board. [3:00:15, 3:00:15]: Second. [3:00:15, 3:00:19]: Please have those those applications posted. [3:00:20, 3:00:22]: Um, no later than [3:00:23, 3:00:25]: Our next um meeting. [3:00:26, 3:00:28]: By April work session. I don't know when that is. [3:00:29, 3:00:32]: That's the 26th of April is our work session. [3:00:32, 3:00:34]: Let's give into it thirty days. [3:00:35, 3:00:50]: That's ambitious because we have to include in the description of the application. So that needs to go through the legal process. So I don't know that that will be ready by the next 30 days from. [3:00:50, 3:00:51]: So our [3:00:52, 3:00:54]: Main council meeting. [3:00:54, 3:01:07]: Okay. May Mayor, I mean, um councilwoman. Stand by please. So you you're so you're you're saying thirty days from this time point point, roughly thirty days in our next council meetings, what you're getting at? [3:01:07, 3:01:08]: Yeah, I'll second that. [3:01:10, 3:01:12]: We like to test that with drafting. [3:01:12, 3:01:13]: Right. [3:01:13, 3:01:15]: The application [3:01:15, 3:01:16]: Mm-hmm. [3:01:16, 3:01:18]: Posting or advertising. [3:01:19, 3:01:20]: The application. [3:01:21, 3:01:22]: Bye. [3:01:22, 3:01:25]: Our May council meeting. [3:01:26, 3:01:26]: So I can [3:01:27, 3:01:34]: All right. Okay. Stand by. Okay. Mr. Stand by Ms. Gantt. Mr. Gardner, you had your hand up earlier as well. [3:01:34, 3:01:37]: Uh no y'all you changed y'all changed it. I'm fine. [3:01:37, 3:01:39]: Okay, Miss Ms. Gann, go ahead, please. [3:01:40, 3:01:46]: Is the application for the advisory board only and then we hold off and do the um [3:01:46, 3:01:48]: The review board. [3:01:49, 3:01:51]: Later. I think it's both. [3:01:52, 3:02:02]: So my concern is we don't know whether or not once we determine the policies and or whatever however we want to do it, we first need to find out whether or not we're gonna have a review board. [3:02:02, 3:02:03]: Right. [3:02:03, 3:02:08]: Because there was some discussion with city manager and the chief they just mentioned [3:02:08, 3:02:16]: some of the things that would have to be implemented. So why would we take, I don't know if we would take what we would be looking for, what that application should look like. [3:02:16, 3:02:20]: Um this is totally different. It's public safety. So I would [3:02:20, 3:02:22]: You know, it's not like our normal [3:02:23, 3:02:24]: Form [3:02:24, 3:02:31]: which actually isn't as detailed for volunteer committees. This is something totally different. [3:02:31, 3:02:33]: Um, so would we [3:02:34, 3:02:35]: I think I would be more comfortable. [3:02:36, 3:02:41]: with the green, you know, let's go towards moving towards the advisory board applications. [3:02:42, 3:02:43]: And then [3:02:43, 3:02:50]: We are agreeing that we would implement a review board at some point in time if we want to, but [3:02:50, 3:02:53]: I don't know if we should put both of those out right now. [3:02:53, 3:02:56]: I mean, am am I missing something? Am I off track? [3:02:57, 3:02:58]: Uh mayor. [3:02:58, 3:02:59]: Yeah, yes, sir. [3:02:59, 3:03:03]: I think as was stated, we still can determine when and if [3:03:04, 3:03:13]: those boards move forward. We're just moving forward with the solicitation and we know how long it takes sometimes. So let that that's that was a suggestion. [3:03:14, 3:03:31]: Okay. Thank you. Anybody else? Mr. Gardner, you had your hand moved there? Yeah, very quickly. Um and from an expectation standpoint, I mean if you if you solicit applications, people are gonna assume that you're gonna be making a decision fairly quickly as to really as to whether or not you're gonna they're gonna be [3:03:32, 3:03:33]: Participating in a board or not? [3:03:34, 3:03:35]: Um, I don't know. [3:03:35, 3:03:36]: Um [3:03:41, 3:03:48]: If you wanna wanna do that and then you you're holding off three to four months and then somebody gets upset that they didn't you know, nothing's moving. [3:03:48, 3:03:50]: Um because they applied. [3:03:50, 3:03:53]: But we'll definitely put a caveat that says this you know. [3:03:53, 3:03:55]: You can apply, please apply. [3:03:56, 3:04:01]: Um, have some criteria around them. Um, and then just have a footnote to let'em know that, you know. [3:04:02, 3:04:07]: The applications will be reviewed, um and council will make recommendations and contact will be made. [3:04:07, 3:04:09]: At some date in the future. [3:04:09, 3:04:10]: Certainly. [3:04:12, 3:04:16]: All right, any further discussion on this particular motion. Go right up. [3:04:16, 3:04:21]: May I have a question I uh either for Mr. Gar I think Mr. Gardner or Chief. [3:04:22, 3:04:30]: Um, because this board is gonna be a lot different from any other board. It's gonna be dealing with legalities pertaining to situations. [3:04:31, 3:04:40]: Uh I think I I I I'm I'm not sure, but I'm I'm I'm maybe alluding to what Councilwoman Ganttz said. What what are the parameters for the applicants? [3:04:41, 3:04:45]: What what what is the parameters that an applicant is qualified to be on these boards? [3:04:46, 3:04:49]: We have nothing. We're saying we're saying [3:04:50, 3:04:54]: to have something written up, but wouldn't this council want to see the parameters? [3:04:55, 3:04:59]: Uh of what qualifications the applicant would have to be on these boards. [3:05:01, 3:05:09]: That would be helpful if we had that. Um okay, Mr. Gardner, you you want to respond to that one as well? Well very quickly, uh if we [3:05:09, 3:05:29]: Uh we're talking about the m the May de May meeting. If y'all allow us to, let us look at the, you know, what's what's been the best practices out there as it relates to to inclusion on these boards, what what criteria have other police departments looked at? Um, bring those back to you guys. I think we can investigate those and bring those. [3:05:29, 3:05:34]: back to you guys at the at the work session and then uh as it relates to getting, you know. [3:05:34, 3:05:43]: Having you guys review and look at those and they're fine with everybody, then move forward with posting and and and getting all of the second half of that stuff done. [3:05:43, 3:05:45]: That might work better. [3:05:45, 3:06:03]: Can I bring us like a draft of those applications that are appropriate session? The the criteria is at least what what what do other police departments look for in terms of of citizen participation? Um, do they have to come with some special skill set uh or not or just the lay citizen? [3:06:04, 3:06:16]: Um, how do they address those? And and that shouldn't take us that long to investigate four or five of them that exist around the metro area um and then be able to present that to you guys and say, hey, this is what we found. [3:06:16, 3:06:28]: that you know, a majority of the police department look for people with a legal background or this background or that background to sit on these review boards because I think Chief said it succinctly. [3:06:28, 3:06:36]: One of these boards look at discipline. I do not want to get into the point where citizens are talking about disciplinary issues. [3:06:36, 3:06:37]: Good personnel. [3:06:38, 3:06:43]: I don't want I don't know. That's I and I don't know of any other police department that does that at our size, but [3:06:43, 3:06:46]: That's information I think you guys need to have. [3:06:46, 3:06:50]: Um before making the decision and and how does how does how's that worked? [3:06:50, 3:07:00]: Um give us time to look at, research this and bring it back to you guys before you all make a final determination because we could be standing up stuff and not realizing that it's [3:07:00, 3:07:03]: Нахлін, бо пробь hindering. [3:07:03, 3:07:04]: But you at least wanna know. [3:07:05, 3:07:06]: Either way. [3:07:07, 3:07:08]: Yes, it's Barber. [3:07:08, 3:07:09]: So [3:07:09, 3:07:10]: Mr. Gardner. [3:07:11, 3:07:14]: The draft of these two applications. [3:07:15, 3:07:18]: I would hope that the city attorneys because I just mentioned [3:07:18, 3:07:20]: they need to be involved in drafting it. [3:07:21, 3:07:21]: Um [3:07:22, 3:07:24]: Will you bring back the draft to the council? [3:07:25, 3:07:26]: Our April work session. [3:07:27, 3:07:36]: No, what I was saying is can we can we bring back the criteria that other police departments use when they're looking in membership? By the April work session? [3:07:36, 3:07:41]: Yeah, that shouldn't be that shouldn't be a heavy lift. That shouldn't be a heavy. We th that's just a quick reference. [3:07:41, 3:07:46]: I'll add to my motion that staff will present. [3:07:46, 3:07:48]: А драфта до критерія. [3:07:48, 3:07:51]: For both of these boards. [3:07:52, 3:07:55]: but I still want to have them both. [3:07:55, 3:07:56]: Posted. [3:07:56, 3:08:03]: um and advertise well targeted to advertise bar May council meeting. [3:08:03, 3:08:11]: Which is May ninth, I believe it is. Right. Okay. Now, um uh Chief, you had your hand raised. [3:08:13, 3:08:20]: I I think Attorney Washington actually had his hand and attorney Berry had theirs at the end. All right. All right. Fine. Mr. Washington, go ahead, please. [3:08:21, 3:08:29]: What my concern is, and we are trying to make sure we adhere to the council wishes. What my concern is, and I guess we can ask the clerk this Miss Holliday. [3:08:29, 3:08:31]: Um if we're creating [3:08:31, 3:08:33]: It's one thing to do. [3:08:34, 3:08:36]: Applications for something. [3:08:36, 3:08:50]: And that can be done by resolution because that's a council act. I think it's another thing to create a board which has some level of authority because I think that's an ordinance. And I don't know whether procedurally you can create an ordinance on [3:08:51, 3:08:54]: And for motion when you amend the agenda. [3:08:54, 3:08:58]: without having some level of notice. That's why I wanted to ask the clerk about [3:08:59, 3:08:59]: Is [3:09:00, 3:09:00]: But [3:09:01, 3:09:02]: She would think in this situation. [3:09:04, 3:09:06]: Does this need to be if these are ordinances? [3:09:07, 3:09:16]: Does it need to be two ordinances to create these boards of whatever authority they may have that is put on an agenda so that there can be effective citizen input about that? [3:09:16, 3:09:17]: Mm. [3:09:17, 3:09:20]: And can I just quit Okay, go ahead, Jim. [3:09:20, 3:09:26]: Well, the real quick, sorry, can I just add for color? I'm looking at the City of Atlanta Citizens Review Board right now. [3:09:26, 3:09:28]: And the the statute, I mean it's got [3:09:29, 3:09:30]: Paragraphs. [3:09:30, 3:09:34]: There's fifteen members on the citizens review board for city of Atlanta. [3:09:35, 3:09:41]: One appointed by the mayor, one by the council, one by the present the council with previous experience as a law enforcement professional. [3:09:42, 3:09:48]: Four from different parts of the city, one from the Gate City Bar Association, one from Atlanta Bar Association. [3:09:48, 3:09:51]: City of Atlanta, and again that's just merely one example. [3:09:51, 3:09:53]: has an ordinance that's about [3:09:53, 3:09:55]: thirty or forty paragraphs long. [3:09:56, 3:09:57]: About the Citizens Revue Board. [3:09:58, 3:09:59]: So the [3:09:59, 3:10:06]: My my thought is it may make sense to sort of lay out ordinances here before we start taking applications for boards that don't even exist right now. [3:10:08, 3:10:09]: Okay. [3:10:10, 3:10:26]: Thank you for the input. Back to you, Vanessa. Go ahead, please. Okay, so I believe that uh the action to move forward is the resolution to actually move forward with it. Yes, you are going to need an ordinance simple similar to what we did for the youth council when it was [3:10:26, 3:10:27]: um enact it. [3:10:28, 3:10:34]: The resolution was to move forward with the with the uh board, the city council by charter. [3:10:35, 3:10:38]: is who actually creates the board. [3:10:38, 3:10:48]: but it would be done with resolution, it would have bylaws and all of that. So it's going to take more than the 30 days that I think that you're thinking it may take. [3:10:48, 3:10:50]: to actually have this happen. [3:10:50, 3:10:56]: But the first act is to resolve to do it, which is the resolution, and then [3:10:56, 3:10:59]: The enactment of it would be done by the ordinance. [3:11:01, 3:11:04]: Okay. Thank you for that. Back to you, Chief. You had your hand up still. [3:11:07, 3:11:11]: Yes, thank you. I just wanted to point out a couple of things and really it's to the point that's already been made, but [3:11:12, 3:11:12]: I think it [3:11:13, 3:11:16]: Th this this really has to be explored further because [3:11:17, 3:11:27]: We have to determine the eligibility criteria for members of the board. There are obviously background processes. If you're on a review board, uh there's certain things that they have to adhere to. I mean, people with criminal [3:11:28, 3:11:35]: convictions and you know different things along those lines, we're not going to be able to participate. We have to identify what cases we're giving them the authority to review. [3:11:36, 3:11:41]: We have to establish the extent of openness that we're going to allow uh with investigations. [3:11:41, 3:11:45]: Uh we have to take into consideration that the officers involved in these are um you know. [3:11:46, 3:11:49]: afforded due process rights and so we have to consider [3:11:49, 3:11:54]: uh the legal ramifications of of their legal representation and council in these matters. [3:11:54, 3:11:59]: Uh we have to decide whether or not we're giving giving the review board subpoena authority. I mean they're just [3:11:59, 3:12:02]: There are myriad of issues that have to be considered. This is not a [3:12:03, 3:12:10]: as simple as an advisory board, this is something that really I think needs time to uh to really develop uh if we're gonna do it the right way. [3:12:12, 3:12:16]: All right. Uh Mr. Berry, your hand's still up. Do you have something more to add or is your you just didn't take it down? [3:12:17, 3:12:19]: Sorry about that, just an excited hand. [3:12:20, 3:12:21]: Okay. [3:12:21, 3:12:23]: Uh, Ms. Gantt, go ahead, please. [3:12:23, 3:12:27]: So having said that, I am not in favor of um [3:12:27, 3:12:34]: implementing an application for a review board at this time. I think we need all the information first. [3:12:34, 3:12:36]: Um, I don't wanna [3:12:38, 3:12:39]: What I don't want to do. [3:12:40, 3:12:45]: Is jump the gun and uh you know, do this ahead of time and put out applications. [3:12:46, 3:12:47]: For people to submit. [3:12:47, 3:12:51]: When we just heard from attorney Berry. [3:12:51, 3:12:55]: There's like thirty, forty paragraphs in the city of Atlanta's review board alone. [3:12:56, 3:12:56]: Um [3:12:57, 3:12:59]: And certain requirements. [3:12:59, 3:13:12]: The gate city bar, those are attorneys that are basically being appointed on from those board from different to different to the board. Um, I think that we need to make sure we have our ducks in a row for that. I'm not against it. [3:13:12, 3:13:17]: I just want to make sure that we have everything together prior to so we know. [3:13:17, 3:13:29]: what the application needs to look like. I think it's going to take way more time for that. But I do agree that we can go ahead and move forward with the application for the advisory board. [3:13:30, 3:13:31]: Yeah, I just think [3:13:33, 3:13:35]: All right. Thank you. [3:13:35, 3:13:36]: Okay, anything else? [3:13:37, 3:13:39]: Mr. Yeah, go ahead, sir. [3:13:39, 3:13:59]: Might might I make a suggestion, okay, that we go ahead and move forward with the applications for the advisory board itself. But we certainly want to send the signal to the citizens we're going to have a review board too, and that we task staff with. [3:13:59, 3:14:17]: uh you know, setting up or constructing the ordinances of what necessary to set up a citizens review board, but remove the the the the 30 days window from it so that it does move forward. [3:14:17, 3:14:20]: but given more time to develop. [3:14:20, 3:14:24]: Uh over the course of time. I make that suggestion. [3:14:25, 3:14:41]: Okay, but uh motion was made by Councilman Barber. So thirty day the yeah, the thirty days is is to to get that done, we've been basically advised that thirty it was gonna take much longer than that. So I I need that in order to make a second on that. Yeah. That's fine. Um [3:14:42, 3:14:47]: What I want is for us to draft the applications. [3:14:47, 3:14:52]: Staff can do the due diligence and research and finding out what the criteria is for [3:14:53, 3:14:55]: you know, individuals to serve. [3:14:56, 3:15:00]: I never said anything about the council approving appointments. [3:15:01, 3:15:02]: That's a later step. [3:15:03, 3:15:04]: Oh, I wanted. [3:15:04, 3:15:07]: It's for staff to do research and due diligence. [3:15:07, 3:15:09]: In preparing the applications. [3:15:09, 3:15:10]: For both. [3:15:10, 3:15:14]: the Citizen Review Board and the Citizen Advisory Board. [3:15:15, 3:15:16]: Both of them. [3:15:17, 3:15:18]: And I believe [3:15:18, 3:15:21]: Maybe a month and a half should be a reasonable amount of time. [3:15:22, 3:15:23]: So if we say [3:15:24, 3:15:24]: Green. [3:15:25, 3:15:26]: Back to the council. [3:15:26, 3:15:29]: The criteria for both of those applications. [3:15:30, 3:15:32]: I like to put deadlines on things. [3:15:32, 3:15:33]: Because I've been shown. [3:15:34, 3:15:37]: That things don't always come back when we expect for them to. [3:15:38, 3:15:41]: So allowing staff a month and a half. [3:15:42, 3:15:44]: To draft the application. [3:15:45, 3:15:46]: And have them posted. [3:15:46, 3:15:48]: Seems reasonable to me. [3:15:48, 3:15:50]: But I won't remove. [3:15:50, 3:15:51]: Um, from my motion. [3:15:52, 3:15:52]: Um [3:15:53, 3:15:54]: They [3:15:54, 3:15:56]: Review board. [3:15:57, 3:15:58]: I want both of them. [3:15:59, 3:16:02]: I want staff to draft and do their research. [3:16:03, 3:16:05]: When developing the applications. [3:16:06, 3:16:08]: For both of the boards. [3:16:08, 3:16:12]: Yeah, if I need to remove the timeline of [3:16:12, 3:16:15]: I don't know, what was it? Uh thirty days. [3:16:15, 3:16:17]: To bring back craft to the council. [3:16:18, 3:16:19]: Or if I need to remove [3:16:20, 3:16:24]: The date, can you read back my motion, Ms. Holland? [3:16:24, 3:16:35]: So you um the motion is to task staff with preparing and advertising and posting applications to enact the citizens review review board and the [3:16:36, 3:16:38]: Citizen Advisory Board. [3:16:38, 3:16:42]: For stakeholders to be able to apply and you currently have [3:16:43, 3:16:45]: Um and with a draft. [3:16:45, 3:16:48]: Of the criteria by four twenty six. [3:16:49, 3:16:54]: It was the new date that was put in there, April twenty sixth. Okay. So would you [3:16:54, 3:16:56]: Will you mind removing? [3:16:57, 3:16:58]: Um the dates. [3:16:59, 3:17:00]: Okay. [3:17:02, 3:17:03]: Instead [3:17:04, 3:17:05]: Who will um [3:17:06, 3:17:07]: For my motion. [3:17:07, 3:17:08]: Um [3:17:08, 3:17:11]: Staff are to bring back the draft. [3:17:11, 3:17:13]: of these applications. [3:17:14, 3:17:15]: By our [3:17:19, 3:17:20]: May work session. [3:17:22, 3:17:23]: Okay. [3:17:25, 3:17:29]: That's a month and a half for staff to do their due diligence and research. [3:17:30, 3:17:32]: And prepare the criteria. [3:17:33, 3:17:34]: Begin. [3:17:35, 3:17:35]: Advertising. [3:17:36, 3:17:37]: For these boards. [3:17:38, 3:17:42]: That's one of the things that I talk with the citizens about. [3:17:42, 3:17:44]: These boards. [3:17:44, 3:17:46]: And I was able to get them to support. [3:17:47, 3:17:49]: This establishing police department. [3:17:50, 3:17:54]: Because they felt as though it as long as citizens are involved. [3:17:54, 3:17:58]: In establishing this police department, they were supported. [3:17:59, 3:18:01]: So we need to make sure that we are [3:18:01, 3:18:06]: getting citizen input and involvement and establishing these boards are important. [3:18:07, 3:18:08]: That's all. [3:18:08, 3:18:09]: Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [3:18:11, 3:18:12]: Thank you, Mayor. [3:18:13, 3:18:21]: You know, I think everyone on here wants accountability with the citizens involved, review board, advisory board. [3:18:22, 3:18:27]: We have a chief right here that's been hired. We have a city manager. [3:18:27, 3:18:31]: That's been hired. And we have city attorneys here that's been hired. [3:18:32, 3:18:43]: Why don't we tell them to give us the best procedurally how the best way to go about this, that we get what we want, get what we need in a timely fashion and how it needs to be done. [3:18:44, 3:18:47]: This council has got to stop. [3:18:47, 3:18:51]: implementing in areas that we have no idea what we're doing. [3:18:51, 3:18:54]: And all it takes is three to raise their hand and make it happen. [3:18:55, 3:18:58]: Why don't we listen to the people that we've hired to do this? [3:18:59, 3:19:06]: How much are we gonna sit here and make like the chief doesn't matter, the attorneys don't matter, the city managers don't matter? [3:19:06, 3:19:12]: Tell us how do we go about doing this? What would be the best practices? And how do we make this come about? [3:19:13, 3:19:20]: But we sit here and tell the people what we want to do and we have never did these some things before. We never did this before. [3:19:21, 3:19:32]: Why don't we deal with the professionals that can tell us which how to go? Well, change the let's do this. Please. Point of order. I'm saying my I'm saying pertaining to this agenda item. [3:19:32, 3:19:38]: Before I vote on it, why don't we ask the people that we've hired? [3:19:38, 3:19:42]: Point point order. What's your point order, please? He's just ranting. [3:19:44, 3:19:47]: That's not a point of water. Okay. Either you're going to vote. [3:19:47, 3:20:07]: On this guy because I've made an adjustment recommendation from city attorney. Okay, but that's the point of order. Okay. I have revised my motion to cover what the attorney keeps clear. All right, Miss Barber. [3:20:07, 3:20:17]: Got that. So this is granting. That's my point of order. Understand. Understand your point of order. Mr. Blount, go ahead and finish your point, but finish your discussion, please. [3:20:18, 3:20:20]: If I'm ranting for clarity. [3:20:20, 3:20:26]: I'd rather rent for clarity than to sit here and rant with about something I know nothing about and make suggestions. [3:20:26, 3:20:32]: Come on, this this this has to be done. Things about this police department. [3:20:32, 3:20:38]: In any department with the city, we have to go to the ones that know what they're doing. [3:20:38, 3:20:47]: They just that this they just sit here and told us about the ordinance change, about what college needs to be put in place, all of these things. [3:20:48, 3:20:55]: But yet we're gonna sit here and vote on two boards, pertain to two boards where we've just been advised of all we have to do. [3:20:57, 3:21:08]: Okay. Oh thanks. Appreciate it. All right. Um once again, Vanessa, make sure I'd like for you to read the motion one more time, make sure we understand what we voted on, one last time before we take the vote. [3:21:09, 3:21:11]: All right. So the motion is to task that. [3:21:12, 3:21:13]: We're preparing. [3:21:13, 3:21:15]: Advertising and posting. [3:21:16, 3:21:27]: For applications to be submitted by the stakeholders to enact a citizens review board and a citizen's advisory board with the draft of the criteria. [3:21:27, 3:21:31]: To come back to the council at the May work session. [3:21:32, 3:21:33]: Is that your motion, Councilman Barber? [3:21:37, 3:21:43]: Um the first sentence of that you mentioned about drafting and advertising. [3:21:43, 3:21:48]: Can you remove the advertising piece of that? [3:21:48, 3:21:49]: And posting. [3:21:49, 3:21:53]: And the posting advertising and posting. Okay. So we'll remove that portion. [3:21:53, 3:21:54]: So [3:21:54, 3:21:55]: Second. [3:21:56, 3:21:58]: Good Alexander. All right, thank you. [3:22:00, 3:22:03]: All right. Motion's been made, been second. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [3:22:05, 3:22:07]: We have a quite question you can't vote. [3:22:07, 3:22:09]: No, I have a question. [3:22:09, 3:22:14]: Okay. Are we I know we're doing a resolution to [3:22:14, 3:22:20]: I know we're doing a resolution to task staff with drafting this information. [3:22:20, 3:22:29]: Is this resolution also an ordinance which creates the board? No. Okay, I just want to be clear on that. [3:22:30, 3:22:38]: Once again, all in favor of the motion, please indicate. Let's get the accurate vote here. One, two, three, four, four. All posed? [3:22:39, 3:22:40]: So abstain. [3:22:42, 3:22:42]: Mayor. [3:22:43, 3:22:43]: Yes, sir. [3:22:44, 3:23:04]: Clearly, he said that this is not this is not the vote to uh actually appoint the boards, it's just to move the resolution forward. That's correct. Fine with that. Okay, so it's five five, it's an announcement vote. Okay. Now, now, Ms. Barber, you said you had two more motions. Uh so I kind of wonder what what you want to put in motion here. Uh I'm hoping that that that was in the same category. [3:23:04, 3:23:06]: what we amended the agenda, we don't have to amend the agenda anymore. [3:23:07, 3:23:09]: So I might have to look look for the attorneys to [3:23:09, 3:23:12]: advise on this. So what is your other motions you want to make? [3:23:13, 3:23:21]: to task staff with comparing the cost of the insurance with GMA and the current insurance. So I'd like to amend the agenda. [3:23:22, 3:23:23]: To add [3:23:24, 3:23:25]: An item for discussion. [3:23:26, 3:23:40]: Well, let me ask let me mention this to you. I think in the conversation, Mr. Gardner indicated and mention about me getting with uh with the Miss Holliday in reference to that. He said if it's the wishes of the council, he would do it. [3:23:40, 3:23:42]: So Mr. Garner. [3:23:43, 3:23:46]: He needed uh stand by Ms Gan mister Gardner. [3:23:46, 3:23:47]: Yes, sir. [3:23:47, 3:23:57]: Yeah, in reference to your statement before about the comparing the insurance, insurance aspect and your experiences you had with that, I thought you said you were going to do that anyway. You had plans to do that? [3:23:57, 3:24:17]: Is that right? Yeah, yeah. I mean if if if council wanted to make it a directive, I'm fine with I'm fine with council making a directive to do so for us to investigate going to the GMA for our insurance coverage. I have no problems doing that. That's okay, one second. I don't I I'm kinda wonder whether or not we need a amend agenda for that particular directive. Well that's consensus. Consensus. [3:24:18, 3:24:19]: One second, stand by [3:24:20, 3:24:21]: Yeah, Tony's [3:24:21, 3:24:24]: Mm, if if if if that's you know [3:24:24, 3:24:26]: Like I said, I was gonna look at that anyway. [3:24:26, 3:24:28]: Um, obviously a directive makes it [3:24:29, 3:24:48]: mm make sure that I get it done and it's not just on my wish list, that it's on council's wish list. Um, but I can do it anyway without having to go because I mean if we have to go back and do a resolution or gym amend the agenda, I'll just go ahead and start the work and I'll bring it back at the April work at the April work session and tell you guys what I'm finding. [3:24:48, 3:24:53]: Awesome. That is what my motion is, as recommended by um Mr. Gardner. [3:24:55, 3:24:57]: So your motion is to [3:24:58, 3:25:00]: As we'll be clear, it has [3:25:01, 3:25:04]: Stave to compare the insurance cost. [3:25:05, 3:25:09]: with GMA's insurance and our current insurance. [3:25:12, 3:25:14]: Just a second on that motion. [3:25:14, 3:25:30]: I think he said he was gonna do it anyway. We we got a consensus proof. Well that's that's well he needs a consensus and the deadline, I'm sorry, include um he will bring us back to the council by our April Work session. [3:25:33, 3:25:42]: Yes, I'll bring back what I found out after having discussions with with with GMA about the program and what it does and what it doesn't do. I'll bring that back to you guys. That shouldn't that's not a heavy lift. [3:25:43, 3:25:45]: I bring that I bring that on the twenty nine. [3:25:46, 3:25:49]: Uh try to check my name. I think it's a twenty six, sir. [3:25:49, 3:25:50]: Only six, sorry. [3:25:51, 3:25:52]: Twenty six, yes. [3:25:54, 3:25:55]: Okay, so [3:25:56, 3:25:59]: With the motion to be made, right? Is there a second emotion? [3:26:00, 3:26:15]: Well the this is the thing we we'd have to amend the agenda in order to do. Okay, so we have okay better consent. He's already agreed to do that. Why do you all keep changing the rules when it comes to me? [3:26:16, 3:26:21]: So I I'll try to get this straight agenda so that we can vote on this. [3:26:21, 3:26:23]: 'Cause I really want us to move along. [3:26:24, 3:26:26]: Mm standby. Miss Gantt? [3:26:27, 3:26:30]: No, Mayor Ford, I was just I had a comment. [3:26:31, 3:26:41]: It seems like we're doing resolutions for things that we usually do by email. I mean, if it's something an office task just to do some research, I don't I don't understand why we're [3:26:41, 3:26:58]: doing we could have a discussion. Normally we have a discussion on something. Not may not necessarily vote on it, but the staff said that they were gonna produce these this information to us. Right. I don't think we need to do everything by resolution. That costs. I mean we have to pay our attorneys to do that. [3:26:59, 3:27:19]: I I mean all the time, I mean the we're doing resolutions for every little bitty-bitty thing. And I don't think that's necessary. We haven't done that in the past. Well, I would think that we can discuss a lot of these things. And if our city manager says he's going to get it back with us, he can get it to us before the next work session because all you have to do is send [3:27:19, 3:27:24]: email says these are my comparison notes on girl we're not voting on it that's just information [3:27:25, 3:27:32]: So I think we've gotten off I think we've started a new pup procedure in doing things that [3:27:33, 3:27:38]: will get us into the weeds of every little bitty thing and and a lot of paperwork. [3:27:39, 3:27:41]: Um that is not necessary. [3:27:42, 3:27:48]: I believe that Mr. Gardner would get back to us but no later than the twenty at the latest the twenty-sixth of April. I'm pretty sure he'd do that with no problem. [3:27:49, 3:27:51]: All right. [3:27:52, 3:27:55]: I like to move forward with my motion. [3:27:56, 3:27:57]: Because [3:27:57, 3:28:00]: Every single concern I've raised. [3:28:00, 3:28:03]: Every item that I've brought to this agenda. [3:28:03, 3:28:05]: uh to this council. [3:28:05, 3:28:06]: To discuss. [3:28:07, 3:28:08]: Or for staff. [3:28:08, 3:28:09]: Um [3:28:10, 3:28:11]: To take action on. [3:28:12, 3:28:13]: None of it has moved. [3:28:14, 3:28:15]: None none of it. [3:28:15, 3:28:17]: This is what accountability looks like. [3:28:19, 3:28:20]: So every [3:28:20, 3:28:22]: Single action. [3:28:22, 3:28:24]: That the council approves here. [3:28:24, 3:28:25]: I'm expecting [3:28:26, 3:28:29]: That staff will come back in a reasonable amount of time. [3:28:30, 3:28:31]: with the deliverable. [3:28:31, 3:28:35]: Not saying that Mr. Gardner is not going to bring it back when he said he would. [3:28:36, 3:28:37]: But there have been instances. [3:28:38, 3:28:40]: Over the past two years and four months. [3:28:40, 3:28:41]: Staff is not delivered. [3:28:42, 3:28:47]: We're still waiting on procurement revisions that was approved by this council a year ago. [3:28:48, 3:28:48]: All right. [3:28:48, 3:28:53]: So you made a motion. So for me, absolutely, I want it on record. [3:28:54, 3:28:55]: So that we can hold. [3:28:56, 3:28:58]: Mr Gardner, accountable. [3:28:59, 3:29:01]: Okay, motion made. Is there a second to the motion? [3:29:02, 3:29:04]: Sir motion is a second to the motion. [3:29:07, 3:29:11]: Okay, Mr. Tom Marapotem Thomas uh second that motion. All in favor of motion, please indicate. [3:29:15, 3:29:24]: Okay, they're all posed. I got three, four, all pose. Mr. Mr. Blount, Ms. Gantton opposes, Mr. Blount. You oppose? [3:29:25, 3:29:26]: Mr Blount. [3:29:27, 3:29:31]: You're opposed. Okay. It's three three two. Motion passed. Okay. What's the other motion? [3:29:32, 3:29:33]: That was it? [3:29:33, 3:29:35]: That's the last one? Okay. [3:29:35, 3:29:37]: Uh alrighty. [3:29:38, 3:29:41]: So we were on uh [3:29:43, 3:29:45]: So council is gonna. [3:29:47, 3:30:03]: World number 10, man. Well well no well, so what it amounts to what's it is okay, uh with all this going on in reference to number nine, with given the uh we the impact of the five thousand dollars that the chief Kramer asked for. [3:30:04, 3:30:07]: What was what was the what was the final vote count on that? Five zero. [3:30:08, 3:30:12]: Okay, fantastic. Somehow I must have missed that piece for some reason. [3:30:12, 3:30:18]: We've been going around, round, around. Okay, number 10. Council consideration to approve City of Stockbridge record services policy. [3:30:19, 3:30:22]: Chief Trammer and Mr. Gardner, please. [3:30:28, 3:30:30]: Chief, you want to do the presentation? [3:30:30, 3:30:33]: Uh yes, sir. I've got it pulled up here. I just wanted to uh [3:30:35, 3:30:35]: Mm-hmm. [3:30:37, 3:30:45]: As you all are aware, with the implementation of the police department, uh it's gonna necessitate the uh utilization of record service. [3:30:45, 3:30:53]: In order to be able to accomplish our objectives. And furthermore, uh the city, as I understand, has been without a uh record service provider even for [3:30:53, 3:31:01]: um internal needs uh as it relates to uh city vehicles. So the first part of this is sort of a two-part presentation. The first part of it [3:31:02, 3:31:12]: is to approve the recor service policy, uh, which has been vetted by legal counsel and uh for which uh all of you should have been provided a copy of that policy. [3:31:13, 3:31:20]: When I go through this, it's gonna be a very high level overview of uh what the policy is, the need for the policy, what it covers, and some specific [3:31:21, 3:31:21]: Um [3:31:22, 3:31:25]: items as it relates to uh costs. [3:31:25, 3:31:29]: uh for record service. And then the subsequent follow up would be [3:31:29, 3:31:34]: to adopt uh by virtue of piggybacking off of Henry County's contract a record service. [3:31:35, 3:31:38]: For us to be able to utilize for um [3:31:39, 3:31:41]: City and for police department needs. [3:31:42, 3:31:49]: So obviously this policy is needed for these reasons here. This is uh a restatement from what's inside the policy. [3:31:50, 3:31:51]: Um, this policy [3:31:52, 3:31:56]: Establishes uh a method by which we will um enter into contracts. [3:31:57, 3:32:03]: It describes criteria by which the service operators must conduct themselves when governing business for the city. [3:32:03, 3:32:04]: Um it [3:32:04, 3:32:06]: Outlines um [3:32:07, 3:32:08]: Uh [3:32:09, 3:32:14]: The the requirements for the record company to maintain roadworthy vehicles to service the city. [3:32:14, 3:32:20]: Um it designates the type of equipment that they are required to uh maintain in order to service the city. [3:32:21, 3:32:24]: And also to make sure that the prices that they're charging the public [3:32:24, 3:32:26]: in the city are fair and reasonable. [3:32:27, 3:32:35]: Uh the policies uh needed, obviously, as we stated previously, uh, for city vehicles and other city property that uh would need to be towed. [3:32:36, 3:32:43]: And for the large part, it's needed for law enforcement purposes, such as removing traffic hazards, many of these things here that are listed legally uh parked vehicles. [3:32:44, 3:32:49]: Responding to emergencies, uh impounding vehicles from one facility to [3:32:49, 3:32:53]: uh the crime lab or um other evidence collection processing location. [3:32:54, 3:32:55]: So [3:32:55, 3:33:01]: The policy does not apply to services uh here initiated by the city or its representatives. [3:33:01, 3:33:06]: Um, including when owners or authorized user vehicle calls a specific record service, so [3:33:06, 3:33:06]: Um [3:33:07, 3:33:09]: Citizens that are at the scene are expected. [3:33:10, 3:33:12]: Uh, if the situation is [3:33:12, 3:33:13]: Um [3:33:13, 3:33:18]: Uh if if if it allows for them to request their own record service, we can assist in that process. [3:33:18, 3:33:22]: But we are not uh in the business of uh [3:33:22, 3:33:24]: you know, recommending those services. [3:33:24, 3:33:27]: uh without solicitation of the um [3:33:27, 3:33:29]: uh of of the the vehicle owner so [3:33:30, 3:33:30]: Um [3:33:31, 3:33:39]: If there's something that happens on private property again, uh we recommend them to the property owner to utilize their own record service, uh, but it does not um [3:33:40, 3:33:41]: Prohibit us from [3:33:41, 3:33:45]: Providing a recommendation for record service should they ask, but we want that onus to be [3:33:46, 3:33:48]: um on the uh individual entity. [3:33:49, 3:33:51]: So as it relates to towing service fees, um [3:33:52, 3:33:53]: This [3:33:54, 3:34:07]: Co this uh record service agreement um is a copy of the record service agreement that Henry County is utilizing at the moment. Uh we've made some modifications. We did negotiate or we did um actually amend our policies. [3:34:07, 3:34:14]: To reduce uh the fees payable to uh the citizens. So on the right hand side here is Henry County's. [3:34:14, 3:34:19]: Uh the cap for um additional extraordinary services was 500 through Henry County. [3:34:19, 3:34:26]: We reduced that to 300. So the total maximum charge for a standard vehicle would be six hundred dollars for a non-city vehicle. [3:34:26, 3:34:33]: or three hundred and sixty dollars for a city vehicle and you can see with the county it's eight hundred for non county and three sixty for a county vehicle. [3:34:34, 3:34:34]: Um [3:34:35, 3:34:38]: These are some other things that are listed in the policy uh to note. [3:34:38, 3:34:45]: Uh, we were able to negotiate with a record service company that they will not charge us an expense for a city vehicle for the first tow. [3:34:46, 3:34:49]: They will tow that at no expense to the city. [3:34:49, 3:34:55]: A second toe should it be needed, uh, would be thirty-five dollars and a third toe would be fifty-five. [3:34:55, 3:35:00]: Their current agreement with Henry County is thirty-five for every county vehicle that they tow. So [3:35:00, 3:35:05]: Uh, we were able to uh negotiate a better uh price as it relates to. [3:35:05, 3:35:07]: Dealing with uh the city vehicle. [3:35:08, 3:35:20]: The um this is the the storage cost here with the uh record companies, first twenty-four hours, no charge. If there's a a weekend or a holiday that they're not able to get their vehicle out, there's no charge. [3:35:20, 3:35:24]: Um the charge for a standard vehicle would be twenty-five dollars a day storage fee. [3:35:24, 3:35:34]: And then based on the um gross vehicle weight rating, which is the G VWR, um, that would increase depending on the size of the vehicle slightly. [3:35:36, 3:35:37]: Um [3:35:42, 3:35:51]: And and I know that's really a a high level overview. The Hen Henry County did put this out. It was a request uh for um uh [3:35:51, 3:35:51]: Yeah. [3:35:52, 3:35:56]: Quotes they did an RFQ last year for record service. [3:35:56, 3:36:00]: And uh Swatson Record Service is located in the city of Stockbridge. [3:36:01, 3:36:03]: uh won the contract for the northern part of the city. [3:36:04, 3:36:09]: And they are agreeable to the terms that we've just outlined in our record services agreement. [3:36:09, 3:36:13]: And so what we are looking to do. [3:36:13, 3:36:17]: And um well I guess I'm moving ahead of myself here, but but [3:36:17, 3:36:18]: Um [3:36:18, 3:36:23]: they kind of all relate together. Uh this is moving, I guess, more into item number eleven than it is 10. [3:36:24, 3:36:27]: So we'll have to backtrack on this, but I did want to point out here. [3:36:27, 3:36:31]: that they did put this out competitively for bids and that [3:36:31, 3:36:34]: Swanson's record service was agreeable to the terms that we listed. [3:36:34, 3:36:38]: In the uh record services policy there. [3:36:38, 3:36:46]: Um, they were found to be most competitive as it relates to the pricing that we previously had mentioned and was listed in the uh record services policy. [3:36:46, 3:36:55]: And before we get in too much to item number eleven, I wanna back up and just ask what questions, if any, there are for the record services policy. [3:36:55, 3:36:59]: Yeah, Chief, I do. And I'll start this off here. You know, uh I uh maybe I missed it. [3:37:00, 3:37:16]: But I'm gonna I think I'm gonna throw you a curveball here. All right. And what this amounts to is that this record service, okay, but some time ago, and I would imagine probably maybe three years or so ago, we passed an ordinance in reference to we're using record service for parking on the street. [3:37:17, 3:37:37]: Now, this policy right here that you're bringing forward, it doesn't actually, I don't think it addresses uh parking on the street when people, when vehicles are are illegally parked or parked on the street uh at a wrong at a different time. Implement that process, uh that ordinance or that process. You see, so unless I missed it, um, like I said, I'm probably thinking [3:37:37, 3:37:47]: throwing you a curveball here in this aspect, but I just kind of wonder about uh about whether or not uh if you thought about that or somebody's even mentioned that to you before, or do I just miss the boat here? [3:37:49, 3:37:56]: I probably moved through it too quickly, Mayor. Let me go back here. And what you're talking about, this is removing um the policy does address, as you can see here. [3:37:57, 3:38:00]: removing unattended or illegally parked vehicles from the public right of way. [3:38:00, 3:38:01]: Okay. All right. [3:38:02, 3:38:05]: So it so I I missed that then. All right, so be it. [3:38:05, 3:38:07]: If you got it covered, so be it. That's that's what I'm wanting to know. [3:38:08, 3:38:10]: Thank you. Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [3:38:14, 3:38:18]: Chief Trimer, we're piggybacking off of the [3:38:18, 3:38:21]: Um county contract with Wantson Toey. [3:38:22, 3:38:28]: Yes, ma'am. And and again, I got ahead of myself. I think the first thing we have to do is approve the record service policy. [3:38:29, 3:38:33]: And then move into that. But that's that's what our aim is, is to piggyback off of Henry County's [3:38:34, 3:38:37]: contract for record service which was competitively bid last year. [3:38:37, 3:38:41]: Okay, so then my next question is. [3:38:41, 3:38:44]: So don't we have to accept their terms and conditions? [3:38:45, 3:38:47]: Including the costs. [3:38:49, 3:38:50]: Or pricing. [3:38:52, 3:38:54]: I'm I'm not certain of that. Um [3:38:55, 3:38:56]: Are we not able to [3:38:56, 3:39:02]: Are we not able to have more agreeable terms than what the county had received when piggybacking off of the contract? [3:39:02, 3:39:06]: Well then you would be negotiating a different contract. [3:39:08, 3:39:09]: Separate from the county. [3:39:10, 3:39:14]: And correct me if I'm wrong, I'll rely on attorney Berry. [3:39:14, 3:39:20]: because you said we were piggybacking, meaning we will accept the terms, conditions. [3:39:21, 3:39:21]: The pricing. [3:39:22, 3:39:23]: Uh, the original [3:39:23, 3:39:25]: contract which is Himmer Counties. [3:39:25, 3:39:27]: So the fact that you're negotiating. [3:39:28, 3:39:30]: It is to our benefit. [3:39:31, 3:39:32]: However [3:39:33, 3:39:35]: If you're negotiating a separate contract, then [3:39:36, 3:39:38]: We would need to go through our own procurement processes. [3:39:39, 3:39:42]: Perhaps the post A R of P or R of Q. [3:39:44, 3:39:45]: Mm-hmm. [3:39:46, 3:39:47]: Oh, I'm sorry, go ahead. [3:39:47, 3:39:57]: Now what do you have to add with this? I'm kinda I think the prices, Chief, correct me if I'm wrong. The prices that the chief was saying are the prices that the person being towed [3:39:57, 3:39:58]: Would pay. [3:39:59, 3:40:04]: Which the city of course could set as opposed to the price that the city is paying. [3:40:04, 3:40:05]: The towing service. [3:40:06, 3:40:11]: So though those prices correct, Council Member Barber would be set by contract. [3:40:11, 3:40:17]: So if the city pays the towing service a hundred but charges the member of the public two hundred. [3:40:17, 3:40:21]: The city can set whatever prices it wants to charge the public. [3:40:21, 3:40:24]: Just can't set the prices that it's ch uh [3:40:24, 3:40:26]: that it's paying the towing company. [3:40:27, 3:40:27]: Gotcha. [3:40:28, 3:40:36]: Okay. I guess I I believe that's my understanding though, but Chief, correct me if I'm wrong. That makes sense. You you would have to correct me if I'm wrong. [3:40:36, 3:40:43]: So I need to, I guess I need to know um the costs that are associated or [3:40:44, 3:40:47]: I guess cost to the city or the person. Right. [3:40:48, 3:40:52]: And what the cost is per vehicle told. [3:40:52, 3:40:55]: under by the city under the contract. [3:40:56, 3:40:57]: It's two separate. [3:40:58, 3:41:00]: pricing structures there should be. [3:41:00, 3:41:03]: Right, yes. I need to see them separately. [3:41:03, 3:41:08]: I think Chief, did you did you just pull up the chart with the fees? [3:41:09, 3:41:11]: Yes, I can pull that up again here. [3:41:18, 3:41:28]: To attorney Berry's point, the um the difference in cost here is what's being charged to the actual citizen. So the citizens versus what would be what they're charging us. So that's still set at the [3:41:28, 3:41:30]: negotiated price that Henry County had. [3:41:31, 3:41:32]: Correct. [3:41:32, 3:41:33]: Okay. [3:41:33, 3:41:33]: Okay. [3:41:34, 3:41:35]: Okay. [3:41:35, 3:41:36]: Now um [3:41:36, 3:41:38]: One other question. [3:41:39, 3:41:39]: So [3:41:40, 3:41:44]: This current contract that Henry County has with Swanson Towing. [3:41:45, 3:41:47]: It expires in September. [3:41:48, 3:41:49]: So what happens? [3:41:50, 3:41:54]: With the services that Swanson would be providing us. [3:41:54, 3:41:55]: Under this contract. [3:41:57, 3:41:58]: What happened, Mr. Berry? [3:42:00, 3:42:00]: Or [3:42:01, 3:42:02]: But it would [3:42:02, 3:42:08]: Council member, I I believe and I I'm trying to pull up the contract. I believe it's got one more extension beyond that, I believe. [3:42:08, 3:42:13]: But to your point, then we would have the city would have to rebit it. This gives us an option in the interim. [3:42:14, 3:42:15]: Uh [3:42:16, 3:42:17]: For now. [3:42:17, 3:42:20]: So when is the county decides? [3:42:20, 3:42:22]: to go with another vendor then. [3:42:23, 3:42:24]: In September. [3:42:24, 3:42:24]: Okay. [3:42:25, 3:42:29]: Oh right. As it yeah, the the the city would then have to rebid it. [3:42:30, 3:42:35]: So is this is this is an interim measure which allows us to just get something up and going quickly. [3:42:35, 3:42:36]: Mm-hmm. [3:42:36, 3:42:38]: Okay, so if we're talking about [3:42:38, 3:42:40]: Approving [3:42:40, 3:42:41]: This contract [3:42:41, 3:42:42]: Um [3:42:43, 3:42:43]: Hey. [3:42:44, 3:42:49]: If we're talking about the council approving this piggyback contract with Swanson Towing under Henry County. [3:42:50, 3:42:51]: It's gonna expire in September. [3:42:52, 3:42:56]: Our police department isn't due to roll out until July first. [3:42:57, 3:42:58]: So July first. [3:42:59, 3:43:00]: August [3:43:00, 3:43:01]: And then September. [3:43:02, 3:43:03]: Um [3:43:04, 3:43:06]: We should be putting out a solicitation. [3:43:07, 3:43:07]: Of our own. [3:43:08, 3:43:09]: Like soon. [3:43:12, 3:43:14]: Am I wrong in my thinking, Mr. Gardner? [3:43:14, 3:43:20]: Mr. We we we have we you know with with with the approval of this [3:43:20, 3:43:22]: contract. Obviously it it [3:43:23, 3:43:29]: If we double double check to make sure that it doesn't have a renewal, but if if Henry County goes away from theirs. [3:43:29, 3:43:35]: Um we s this is kind of a stop gap measure, so we still have an opportunity to put it out to bed. [3:43:35, 3:43:38]: We can get working on the scope on the scope of services. [3:43:39, 3:43:43]: Um and have that ready to go in June. [3:43:43, 3:43:49]: And have some have a boy have a c uh entity on board, whether it's this guy or somebody else. [3:43:49, 3:43:51]: By uh by August [3:43:51, 3:44:11]: Um, but we'll be in contact with Henry County to see what they're going to do in terms of continuing the contract for an additional year. But I think as as Jeremy said, I think this is the stock. Obviously, we need something in place. This allows us once we get rolling July 1 to be able to have that record service in place to assist us. And then we have to bid it out. [3:44:11, 3:44:18]: out, we'll bid it out, but we'll be in conversations if we have the one year renewal and Henry County is going to exercise that one year renewal. [3:44:18, 3:44:22]: Obviously that gives us even more time to evaluate how our [3:44:22, 3:44:25]: how our level of services with this vendor. [3:44:25, 3:44:39]: and move forward either we don't like them in the couple of months we're dealing with them, we bid it out or we like what we're getting. We'll continue, Henry County continues and then rebid it out next year when it actually um the contract series ends. [3:44:39, 3:44:48]: Henry contract goes through 20, but it can go through 2024. It could. We don't know what Henry County will do. [3:44:49, 3:44:55]: So that's that's this current contract expires 2021 in September of 2020. [3:44:56, 3:44:57]: Twenty two, sorry. [3:44:57, 3:44:58]: Um [3:44:58, 3:45:00]: And we can't we shouldn't rely. [3:45:01, 3:45:03]: on just Hammer County. [3:45:04, 3:45:13]: Right, but we could also piggyback off another jurisdiction at that point as well. But uh your but your point is understood. Yeah we we've got a short runway perhaps here. [3:45:13, 3:45:19]: No, it's not short. I mean, we could put out a solicitation of our own. [3:45:19, 3:45:20]: Right now. [3:45:21, 3:45:23]: And have it come back to the council. [3:45:23, 3:45:26]: By the end of June. [3:45:26, 3:45:26]: All right. [3:45:27, 3:45:31]: Before the implementation or the rollout of the police department. [3:45:33, 3:45:34]: Well [3:45:34, 3:45:50]: I if it's okay, I I would I would l at least like for us to have this in place because obviously we still have a lot of other solicitations going out, but this would give us time in order order to program it in the schedule and get it done and have it ready and have us have uh a vendor chosen by [3:45:51, 3:45:51]: August [3:45:52, 3:45:52]: Um [3:45:53, 3:45:55]: And move forward with our own solicitation. [3:45:55, 3:45:59]: Especially we get we get favorable favorable um [3:45:59, 3:46:01]: Numbers, fees, structure. [3:46:02, 3:46:15]: that we move forward in earnest with that versus continuing with Henry County. But right now, this at least allow the police department to continue bringing on their staff and we can program this into our solicitation rotation. [3:46:15, 3:46:25]: and get it out, like I said, by June and have have a vendor on board by August. Have you guys vote on the vendor to start in earnest when this contract ends, whether Henry County continues it or not. [3:46:28, 3:46:33]: But at least we'll be able at least at least we'll council member Barber, at least we'll be able to [3:46:33, 3:46:34]: Have [3:46:35, 3:46:37]: in place um [3:46:37, 3:46:51]: what the vendors are going to charge in terms of fees versus what we're doing now. And if it actually looks like it's it's prudent for us to stay, if Henry County stays with this vendor and it's prudent based on what we get, we'll stay. But at least we'll be able to see those comparisons. [3:46:53, 3:46:53]: Thank you. [3:46:54, 3:46:55]: You're welcome. [3:46:56, 3:46:58]: Uh uh Map, any other questions? [3:47:01, 3:47:05]: All right, for no questions, council need a motion to accept uh this record service policy. [3:47:06, 3:47:07]: So move. [3:47:07, 3:47:08]: Sir a second. [3:47:11, 3:47:12]: Ms. Ms. Gantty seconded in this motion. [3:47:13, 3:47:20]: I second okay great. No further conversation. All in favor of this policy, please or motion, please raise your hand. [3:47:22, 3:47:24]: Okay. [3:47:24, 3:47:28]: I wanted to ask um Councilman Alexander if he would put in his motion. [3:47:29, 3:47:31]: about a potential alternate. [3:47:31, 3:47:32]: Bendar. [3:47:33, 3:47:35]: As Mr. Gardner mentioned. [3:47:36, 3:47:41]: Certainly I think he's gonna do it anyway, but I mean I don't I don't see the harm in it. [3:47:41, 3:47:42]: But yeah, sure. [3:47:43, 3:47:44]: We already voted. [3:47:46, 3:47:51]: The vote was taken. I mean Okay, no problem. I mean it's gonna be done. You Mr. Gardner, you gonna handle it? [3:47:52, 3:47:52]: Mm. [3:47:53, 3:47:53]: Yes, sir. [3:47:54, 3:48:07]: All right, what's taken? So I will abstain then. Um I'll give my reasons for abstaining. I'm abstaining because the current contract with Henry County. [3:48:07, 3:48:11]: Expires September of twenty twenty two. [3:48:13, 3:48:20]: I asked the question of an alternate supplier for us or alternate. [3:48:20, 3:48:21]: Record service. [3:48:22, 3:48:24]: I suggested that staff [3:48:25, 3:48:27]: Prepare the solicitation. [3:48:27, 3:48:29]: They began advertising it. [3:48:29, 3:48:30]: Now. [3:48:30, 3:48:34]: So that the council can make an award or approve an award. [3:48:34, 3:48:35]: Prior to [3:48:36, 3:48:37]: The execution. [3:48:38, 3:48:39]: A rollout. [3:48:39, 3:48:41]: Of our own police department. [3:48:43, 3:48:43]: That's all. [3:48:43, 3:49:03]: All right, 401. All right, uh thank you, council. Uh council consideration to award annual contract for record services to Supreme Uh Trio LLC, uh, which is a Swanson D DBA, Swanson towing and recovery, piggybacking off the Henry County contract number eight C. [3:49:03, 3:49:06]: Dash twenty-one dash ninety-eight. [3:49:07, 3:49:10]: Uh Mr Gardner and Chief Tremor, please. [3:49:13, 3:49:17]: Yes, Mayor and Council, as was stated previously, we're seeking to [3:49:17, 3:49:22]: uh piggyback off of the Henry County uh contract that was re that was awarded. [3:49:23, 3:49:28]: Uh September twenty eighth of twenty twenty one. This is a copy of the notice to award. [3:49:28, 3:49:32]: Uh with two mutually agreed upon renewals um [3:49:32, 3:49:37]: Set to expire September thirtieth, twenty twenty two, to the point uh that was made previously. [3:49:37, 3:49:42]: uh should they not continue with record service and obviously we would um have to [3:49:42, 3:49:43]: Um [3:49:43, 3:49:50]: have an alternate solution, but again, just to uh reiterate the point that was made by Mr. Gardner is this is a uh is an interim. [3:49:51, 3:49:54]: solution in order to allow us to be able to [3:49:54, 3:49:55]: Um [3:49:56, 3:49:59]: to implement a record service um [3:50:00, 3:50:05]: By July one, we're more operational to be able to carry out uh public safety uh related. [3:50:06, 3:50:07]: Um [3:50:07, 3:50:08]: Need. [3:50:08, 3:50:09]: From um [3:50:10, 3:50:17]: a uh a record service. So that's a copy of the contract here. I believe that you all um have this. [3:50:17, 3:50:20]: uh the contract um information. [3:50:20, 3:50:21]: And um [3:50:22, 3:50:25]: This is the um [3:50:25, 3:50:30]: resolution on the RFQ that was put out soliciting uh the contracts. [3:50:33, 3:50:41]: And uh as was stated, this is just an overview. So uh if you all would like to go through this, again, it was in your agenda packet, you're seeing the same thing that I'm seeing here. [3:50:42, 3:50:44]: So the request would be to um [3:50:45, 3:50:50]: Piggyback off of Henry County's contract to provide um immediate record service. [3:50:51, 3:50:54]: For uh purposes of public safety. [3:50:56, 3:51:01]: Questions counsel for Chief Tremor. Yes, Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [3:51:01, 3:51:06]: Okay, so the last item I got a confused. That was just for the review of the policy. [3:51:07, 3:51:11]: um i know i can't go back and change my vote if i could i would approve it [3:51:11, 3:51:14]: This is the item that I will um [3:51:16, 3:51:20]: either abstain from voting on, depending on what the motion is. [3:51:21, 3:51:23]: Any other comments, uh council? [3:51:25, 3:51:30]: Need a motion to uh accept this particular piggybacking off this particular contract. [3:51:32, 3:51:33]: Is there a motion to approve? [3:51:36, 3:51:38]: Councilwoman Barber, you want to make the motion? [3:51:41, 3:51:48]: Um Mayor Ford. Yes, Mayor. Um I will uh make a motion to approve um [3:51:50, 3:51:54]: piggybacking off of the current Henry County contract. [3:51:56, 3:51:59]: With also staff uh preparing. [3:52:00, 3:52:01]: In advertising. [3:52:01, 3:52:04]: For an alternate record service. [3:52:05, 3:52:08]: Considering the current contract expires. [3:52:09, 3:52:12]: September of twenty twenty two. I second. [3:52:13, 3:52:15]: Uh Miss Gan seconds there. Any further discussion? [3:52:16, 3:52:17]: If not all in favor of motion, please indicate. [3:52:19, 3:52:21]: Okay, unanimous decision. Thank you very much. [3:52:23, 3:52:28]: All righty. I asked, am I able to change my vote on the last the last item? [3:52:30, 3:52:35]: Well, I I don't know after the legal procedure. I think we've already passed that. We've already been passed. Let's keep moving on. [3:52:36, 3:52:37]: Um [3:52:37, 3:52:41]: So I want to change my vote from abstaining to approving it. [3:52:42, 3:52:47]: Well, as far as I'm concerned, we need to move on. You've already voted we already voted, so we need to move on. [3:52:47, 3:52:50]: Um well I like to seek um counsel from [3:52:50, 3:52:51]: The attorney. [3:52:52, 3:52:53]: Mr. Berry. [3:52:54, 3:52:55]: I think is [3:52:55, 3:53:03]: You're allowed to do a motion for reconsideration and then that would be voted on. And then we revote on the whole underlying thing. [3:53:03, 3:53:04]: Right. Yeah. [3:53:05, 3:53:09]: But it's a motion to recon it's a motion to reconsider if you're on the prevailing side. [3:53:11, 3:53:14]: What's uh right, if on the prevailing side, right, right, right. [3:53:15, 3:53:18]: But she's not on prevailing side, she'll stand. That's correct. [3:53:18, 3:53:38]: All right, all right, so we'll let's move on. Council consideration approved the public works department request to renew the annual contract RFP 2020-0026 with site engineering incorporated, on-call water, sewer emergency and operational repair, maintenance and construction services, an amount of$255,000. [3:53:39, 3:53:45]: As approved in the FY twenty twenty two storm water budget. Mr. Aaron, please. [3:53:45, 3:53:50]: Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. The annual on-call water and sewer emergency [3:53:50, 3:54:05]: Repair was solicited for bid on November 11, 2020. It closed on February 25th, 2021. It was awarded to site engineering on April 12, 2021. So this is the first renewal of that contract. [3:54:05, 3:54:17]: And we're asking council to approve the renewal. If you notice as you drive up and down North Henry Boulevard nowadays, you don't have to dodge all of those manholes that were causing problems. Site engineering did that. [3:54:18, 3:54:38]: On Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday, stormwater staff was just inundated with phone calls from residents concerned about storm drainage systems malfunctioning and not functioning properly. I know we received numerous calls from Lambert Drive and Spring Street. But one of the places we did not receive calls from was on turning point. I'm pretty sure a lot. [3:54:38, 3:54:40]: of council members are familiar with that. [3:54:40, 3:54:52]: site engineering just completed a stormwater project there for us. And also as a result of the rain, we've got two projects that we're proposing to do. One is on Pathwood Lane and one is on Creekview Overlook. [3:54:52, 3:55:12]: We also met with five residents today about a malfunctioning storm drainage. So site engineering has very been instrumental in addressing some stormwater issues and situations. I think a lot of times because these structures are underground about the season until it rains, but that five and a half inches of rain wins then. [3:55:12, 3:55:19]: And thirsty showed us some deficiencies in our stormwater system. And we've got to continue to move forward with making repairs. [3:55:19, 3:55:32]: And we've been had this utility since I think it was 2004, July 12th, when it was implemented. So we want to continue to make repairs as our permit requires us to do. [3:55:33, 3:55:38]: And I'll answer any questions if anybody has any questions. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [3:55:38, 3:55:41]: Mr. Aaron, when did this contract expire? [3:55:42, 3:55:51]: This is the first renewal. It has up to five one year renewals. This would be the first renewal under this contract that was approved on April 12th, 2021. [3:55:52, 3:55:58]: Well that when the question the question is when does it if we don't renew, when would it expire? It'll expire tomorrow. [3:55:59, 3:56:01]: And we're just getting this today. [3:56:01, 3:56:05]: Well, it came before you previously, it was table. It was table. [3:56:07, 3:56:10]: Mr. Gardner, all due respect to everybody on this call. [3:56:11, 3:56:18]: The date that this was tabled could have came back before the day before before the contract expired. [3:56:19, 3:56:23]: This has been this has been my concern when we're getting this. [3:56:24, 3:56:25]: When was it taken? [3:56:26, 3:56:28]: It was February. [3:56:30, 3:56:30]: So [3:56:31, 3:56:39]: We're two months out. We could have got it. We could have got a the council meeting after that for whatever w whatever reason it was tabled for, whatever we had to do. [3:56:39, 3:56:44]: I'm just I'm just for me. I don't know about my other colleagues. I'm just saying for me. [3:56:45, 3:56:48]: And I've I and I said this at the last council meeting. [3:56:49, 3:56:52]: I don't want to have to renew contracts a day before. [3:56:52, 3:56:55]: Well, we don't have a council meeting in between making decisions. [3:56:57, 3:56:59]: And I'm gonna prove this because [3:57:00, 3:57:06]: Um, you know, just because of where we at with it and it's renewal. But I'm just saying that we have to bring [3:57:07, 3:57:10]: If something is table, we have to bring this stuff back to council. [3:57:11, 3:57:16]: It is f if we had went a different direction, if we would recommend to go a different direction. [3:57:16, 3:57:24]: We still would have to do what we had to do tonight, Nick, and and in the inspired tomorrow. I just want to see things just in a more timely manner. That's all. [3:57:25, 3:57:26]: And and and Mr. Blount. [3:57:26, 3:57:42]: Thank you. And and that's why it came to you guys when it came to you in February, but it was table and and and quite frankly, if we brought it back in March, we weren't guaranteed that it was gonna get voted on or give us enough time to to put it out to bid. Why was it table? And [3:57:43, 3:57:46]: I can't remember Vanessa, do you I think you [3:57:47, 3:57:48]: Why why was this table? [3:57:48, 3:57:55]: Back in February. There was some issue. I'm sorry, go ahead. No, I'm sorry, Vanessa. Can you can you help us out? [3:57:56, 3:57:56]: Yeah. [3:57:57, 3:58:17]: I'll say the reason for I'm sorry, Vanessa, the reason for we just approved the the last minutes from February 14th and the 22nd, I think, of February Mayor, all due respect, let me get this from Miss Holliday real quick. Well on the table back in February, Miss Holliday. There was a motion uh made by Mayor Pro Tem Thomas. Um [3:58:17, 3:58:18]: to [3:58:19, 3:58:20]: Denied the renewal. [3:58:21, 3:58:22]: And put it out for be it. [3:58:23, 3:58:30]: And there was confusion and I believe you uh council member member Blount had asked the question because at that time [3:58:31, 3:58:32]: It was being asked. [3:58:32, 3:58:33]: To [3:58:35, 3:58:36]: Increase the contract. [3:58:37, 3:58:47]: with it coming up for renewal in April. And you were saying it was too close to the renewal to be doing that at that time. [3:58:47, 3:58:48]: And [3:58:48, 3:58:56]: So the there was a lot of questions around it and based on is that in the minutes or you thinking that's what happened? It is that is in the minutes, sir. In the minutes. [3:58:57, 3:59:05]: Well, if that's the case, then why are we just not getting it back? This if if those were the the concerns. [3:59:05, 3:59:08]: Then why are we getting it back a day before it's supposed to expire? [3:59:12, 3:59:19]: And and Councilmember Blount, um, I'll I'll take responsibility because obviously this is under me. [3:59:19, 3:59:20]: But [3:59:20, 3:59:24]: You know, we recognized that we didn't have enough time to get a bit out. [3:59:24, 3:59:30]: And I told the public works director to put it back on the agenda so council can either vote it up. [3:59:30, 3:59:31]: Or voted down. [3:59:32, 3:59:39]: And allow us to move forward. And I asked, Is this a contractor that we've had issues with? And he expressly said, No. [3:59:40, 3:59:43]: Um that they've done good work. So I said for whatever we have budgeted. [3:59:44, 3:59:47]: That's what we will carry up for to the rest of the year. [3:59:47, 3:59:49]: If council approved it, if they don't. [3:59:49, 3:59:53]: We'll go to an on call situation where if we have a [3:59:53, 4:00:03]: two 21 inch waterline berths, we'll have to hire whoever's available and get charged whatever that fee is, and we'll bring it back as an emergency procurement. [4:00:03, 4:00:13]: What's it but for for renewal for renewal of this contract, what's in the contract? How many days do we have to give them if we don't renew? [4:00:16, 4:00:28]: If if if if if the one year up in council does not approve the and hold on, I'm not let me not that's there's a there's a grace period of days of no and the reason I'm asking this. [4:00:28, 4:00:31]: Is that I don't want this council to have to get into [4:00:31, 4:00:36]: continue to writing resolutions for something that should be done by department heads. [4:00:37, 4:00:42]: Well, I and and quite frankly, so I mean, to be quite honest, and I sh I I shot an email to the mayor. [4:00:43, 4:00:52]: um having that one dis d discussion around when we get to a point where we have where we adopt a multi-year contract. [4:00:53, 4:01:01]: That we, the staff, admin evaluate those contracts based on criteria, whether the workers perform admirably. [4:01:02, 4:01:07]: Are there number of complaints regarding the work or the quality of work and if they get a favorable score? [4:01:07, 4:01:11]: And you if it's a one year contract with a two year renewal. [4:01:12, 4:01:21]: That can happen administratively as long as the cost doesn't go up. That way we keep projects moving because what happens is you're gonna have a contractor. [4:01:21, 4:01:41]: That that literally has four projects that they're working on on behalf of the city, and the contract expires because of the scope and the size of the complexity of the work. And now you're caught in the conundrum because no other engineer is gonna go back behind them and want to do their work without starting over or charging you some exorbitant price to absorb. [4:01:41, 4:01:42]: [14502.6, 14506.8]: Well what but but Mr. Garner, what I'm saying and and and to you also, Mr. Aaron. [4:01:47, 4:01:52]: Anytime I've ever said anything since I've been on this council about any contract. [4:01:52, 4:01:56]: It was done in a timely fashion that those contracts could be brought back. [4:01:56, 4:02:16]: Nothing I have ever said on any contract would put us in this position. And that's decision by department heads. And that's not what I was saying, Mr. Ms. Blount. What I'm saying is if we brought it in back to you guys in March, and let's say you voted down, then we had to put out a solicitation that has to be at a minimum of what 35, 45 days. [4:02:16, 4:02:18]: Days, you're already in April. [4:02:18, 4:02:23]: Well I would I wouldn't appreciate that. So we we we wouldn't have met that window. [4:02:23, 4:02:38]: If it was denied in February rather than table, that would have given us time to put a solicitation out and at least get in, even though they might have been on a contract a month and hope to God that nothing happened, that we could have a contract in and approved by you guys and may have a vendor in. [4:02:39, 4:02:42]: But that's a probable probable and that's an assumption. [4:02:42, 4:02:48]: But to still have it back to us in 30 days to see what would happen. Well, it can't come it couldn't come up. [4:02:49, 4:02:53]: It couldn't come back to you in thirty days. Had you at you let's say for instance in February [4:02:53, 4:02:55]: In February had you denied it. [4:02:56, 4:02:58]: And I mean i and you denied it in February. [4:02:59, 4:03:12]: We'd have to turn around and put a solicitation out. 30 days put you in March. You still have to review that, put a review committee on. No, no, we we we table, we table, if you say we tabled it in February, back in March. [4:03:13, 4:03:20]: Understood. And had you and and if we ran into the same issue where you didn't approve it or you denied it. [4:03:20, 4:03:23]: If you didn't approve it, you denied it or table it. [4:03:23, 4:03:24]: We're still where we are. [4:03:25, 4:03:31]: if you would approve if you didn't approve it. And so at this point, yes. Should we brought it back in March? [4:03:31, 4:03:45]: Yes, we but Mr. Garner, that's my point exactly. Nothing changed. That's my point. Nothing changed. That's not only thing that should have been done was to be brought back to us because nothing changed from when we table it to now. [4:03:45, 4:03:47]: Only thing that could have been better. [4:03:47, 4:03:56]: Was to bring it back to us 30 days prior to now. And and and and yes, and Mr. Blount, we we that's our fault. We take responsibility for that. [4:03:56, 4:04:04]: Um, that's one real eat. Um, but like I said, it even if we brought it in March and your state council decided not to vote on it. [4:04:05, 4:04:06]: Or voted down. [4:04:06, 4:04:17]: we still will be where we are. But yes, we should have brought it and at least give council opportunity again to hear and weigh on it. And that's our fault and that's our responsibility we take credit for it. [4:04:18, 4:04:20]: Okay, Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. [4:04:21, 4:04:22]: Okay. [4:04:23, 4:04:28]: If if if everyone would recall, um there were no [4:04:28, 4:04:30]: projects at that time. [4:04:31, 4:04:33]: I I moved to [4:04:33, 4:04:41]: Uh put it out for bed. And I'm gonna ask Mrs. Holliday what was the response uh to that, but I distinctly remember. [4:04:42, 4:04:45]: And Councilman Blount, you may remember this as well. [4:04:45, 4:04:49]: Uh that there was two hundred and fifty five thousand still in the budget. There was no project. [4:04:49, 4:04:52]: And I I motioned to [4:04:52, 4:04:55]: uh put it out for bid, but I can't recall [4:04:55, 4:04:59]: Um the outcome. So, Madam Clerk, can you [4:04:59, 4:05:00]: Recall [4:05:00, 4:05:03]: Did the mayor bring that up for [4:05:05, 4:05:10]: The motion did he based on uh based on the minutes from the twenty second, there was a motion. [4:05:11, 4:05:13]: Um initially to [4:05:14, 4:05:17]: deny and put out for bid and there was no [4:05:17, 4:05:18]: Second. [4:05:19, 4:05:22]: And then the next time there was a motion to deny. [4:05:23, 4:05:26]: And put out forbid Councilman Barber seconded it. [4:05:26, 4:05:27]: And then [4:05:27, 4:05:30]: Um, with all the questioning around it. [4:05:31, 4:05:33]: Again, as stated before, um [4:05:33, 4:05:36]: Of the city manager thought that it needed more clarification. [4:05:36, 4:05:38]: And the item was tabled. [4:05:39, 4:05:45]: And see, and and the thing about on call is it's more of a of an emergency call. [4:05:45, 4:05:52]: Um and we should have gone forward and and and and actually put it out for bid and we would have had time. [4:05:52, 4:05:57]: See that goes back to and I think Councilwoman Barber said this earlier. [4:05:57, 4:06:01]: You know, we we give directive, but for whatever reason. [4:06:01, 4:06:03]: They get caught up in [4:06:03, 4:06:06]: Somewhere. I don't I don't know why, but [4:06:07, 4:06:07]: Um [4:06:08, 4:06:11]: That's all we had to do. So again, we have to learn. [4:06:11, 4:06:12]: Um [4:06:14, 4:06:18]: Well, I mean, hey, you know, I mean it's done now and here we are now, but [4:06:18, 4:06:19]: Um [4:06:20, 4:06:23]: We have to learn from these mistakes that we're making, but [4:06:24, 4:06:28]: Uh it should have gone after be it like it was a motion and I don't know [4:06:29, 4:06:33]: And and and Mr. City Manager, if you suggested, you know, that that [4:06:34, 4:06:38]: We table it out. We assume that you were going to [4:06:39, 4:06:56]: And look into it and and that's what and that's what we did. And and like I said, our fault for not bringing it back, my fault for not directing the the department had to bring it back la um last month. But I mean, like I said, I mean this is a fresh solicitation that this went out in 2021. [4:06:57, 4:06:59]: I mean you you typically [4:06:59, 4:07:10]: want to give that contractor an opportunity to do the work, which my understanding in talking to Dashers, they did. They did the work. There was no issues with the quality of the work that they rendered. [4:07:10, 4:07:13]: So when it comes forward for the renewal. [4:07:14, 4:07:15]: Um [4:07:15, 4:07:20]: You know, because we start, you know, one of the things we have to look out to, and I think I mentioned this to a couple of you guys. [4:07:21, 4:07:25]: You know, when we're we're we're a business entity. We just happen to be [4:07:25, 4:07:25]: Public. [4:07:26, 4:07:29]: But how how other businesses view us. [4:07:30, 4:07:31]: is important. [4:07:31, 4:07:46]: regardless of the private business or public business. And when we put a solicitation out and if there's no issues and we keep bidding it out on an annual basis, at some point nobody's want to come in and do that job and we won't get any solicitations at all. [4:07:46, 4:07:50]: I mean I just came from a city with w if you if you let me [4:07:50, 4:07:52]: We couldn't get people to bid on these points. [4:07:53, 4:08:04]: This is how bad it was because of some of the same similar issues we're dealing with now. It's because they would kill contracts in the middle of the year, do all of this stuff, and no one wanted to do business with each point. [4:08:04, 4:08:12]: For risk insurance, regular insurance, contracts to do work. And if they did, they charge us some absorbing price, which we had to pay. [4:08:13, 4:08:23]: But it took us a while to get people to realize to have faith in us as a public and business entity to say, hey, okay, new leadership, new management, new folks. [4:08:24, 4:08:30]: Take a chance on doing business with us. But how we do how we conduct business in the business realm affects us. [4:08:31, 4:08:36]: And that's what I just wanted to get like so let me ask this question now, Mr. Gunn. Um so [4:08:36, 4:08:43]: If this contract is not approved tonight and we go forward and and put it out, I understand that. [4:08:44, 4:08:51]: Uh Mr. Aaron and I I I I can hear what you're saying already, but I'm just asking this question. So if it's not approved tonight, then where are we? [4:08:52, 4:08:59]: We're at the point that if we have an emergency situation, like I said, if we have a twelve inch water main that breaks and our folks can't fix it. [4:09:00, 4:09:05]: We will call whoever answers the call and pay whatever price they charge us. [4:09:05, 4:09:08]: To fix it because water is part of life safety. [4:09:09, 4:09:12]: And we have to provide that service to the residents, regardless. [4:09:12, 4:09:19]: Mr. Thomas, do you mind if I interject for one second, please? Well, actually, yeah, if Mr. Mayor Pro Tem's done, I'm going to Miss Barber. [4:09:20, 4:09:22]: She's not he's probably not done. I just wonder. [4:09:22, 4:09:25]: No, no, I mean object because [4:09:25, 4:09:34]: Because it was my baby. Um move on to me. Are you recognizing my hand now, Mayor? I I am finished, Mayor. I am finished. Okay. Miss Barber, please. [4:09:35, 4:09:35]: Thank you. [4:09:36, 4:09:36]: Um [4:09:37, 4:09:41]: So and I appreciate you, Mr. Gardner, for accepting responsibility. [4:09:42, 4:09:48]: I expected when you suggested that we table this item back in February. [4:09:50, 4:09:52]: You making the suggestion that we table it. [4:09:52, 4:09:55]: Is the reason why I rescinded? [4:09:55, 4:09:58]: My second to the motion that Mayor Pro Tem. [4:10:01, 4:10:04]: So the fact that it did not come back to us. [4:10:04, 4:10:07]: And now it's coming to us a day before it expires. [4:10:07, 4:10:10]: This puts us again in the same situation. [4:10:11, 4:10:14]: that I've been talking about for two years and four months. [4:10:14, 4:10:17]: It's almost as if staff is making the decision for us. [4:10:17, 4:10:19]: They're just forcing us to approve it. [4:10:20, 4:10:21]: No, I'm not going to approve. [4:10:22, 4:10:24]: any contracts, whether it's a renewal, [4:10:25, 4:10:28]: Or whether it is an award, please. [4:10:28, 4:10:29]: Do not. [4:10:29, 4:10:31]: Bring us well. [4:10:31, 4:10:32]: For me. [4:10:32, 4:10:36]: I I will be abstaining for this um because [4:10:36, 4:10:42]: I want to be able to make my decision based on all of the information that is provided to me. [4:10:43, 4:10:47]: I was waiting for you, Mr. Gardner, to provide information to us. [4:10:47, 4:10:49]: But we're just getting this today. [4:10:50, 4:10:59]: Please look at the operations of not just procurement, but even with Mr. Aaron when this item was brought to us. [4:10:59, 4:11:01]: how it was presented to us. [4:11:02, 4:11:06]: He wanted to increase the award amount to match the budget amount. [4:11:07, 4:11:14]: Please look at the overall operations of our city. Things are just too loosey-goosey. [4:11:14, 4:11:21]: Yes, ma'am, but there are checks and balances in place to allow the governing body to govern. [4:11:21, 4:11:28]: I certainly um would have hoped that this would have been an item. And I see that we [4:11:28, 4:11:33]: awarded this contract just last year. So bringing us a renewal. [4:11:33, 4:11:35]: It's perfectly all right. [4:11:35, 4:11:37]: But you give us the time. [4:11:37, 4:11:40]: Because you don't know what our decision may be. [4:11:40, 4:11:45]: So a contract like this that requires the council's approval for renewal [4:11:45, 4:11:50]: Please allow at least ninety days or so. [4:11:50, 4:11:51]: In advance. [4:11:51, 4:11:53]: Prior to the expiration. [4:11:54, 4:11:55]: Of the contract. [4:11:56, 4:11:57]: So that council. [4:11:57, 4:12:00]: can make the decision on how to move forward. [4:12:01, 4:12:04]: As a part of the staff bringing this to us today. [4:12:04, 4:12:06]: and dropping it in our in our lap. [4:12:07, 4:12:10]: I learned a very valuable valuable lesson last year. [4:12:11, 4:12:12]: I will not. [4:12:12, 4:12:14]: Approve any more contracts. [4:12:15, 4:12:15]: That are brought. [4:12:16, 4:12:17]: Here. [4:12:17, 4:12:18]: From me to vote on. [4:12:18, 4:12:19]: at the very last minute. [4:12:20, 4:12:21]: Absolutely not. [4:12:21, 4:12:30]: So please, sir, take a look at the overall operations, how we're functioning here. I do certainly agree with you, the public's pers perception. [4:12:31, 4:12:32]: But it starts with stabs. [4:12:33, 4:12:38]: and how these items are added to the agenda and how they're being presented to us. [4:12:39, 4:12:39]: Understood. [4:12:40, 4:12:41]: Thank you, sir. [4:12:41, 4:12:43]: You're welcome. May I come may I come in? [4:12:44, 4:12:46]: Oh boy M is there. [4:12:47, 4:12:51]: When contracts get ready to be renewed, I get a form from procurement. [4:12:52, 4:13:10]: It's contract. We don't have the dates when contract expires. She asked some questions about the vendor. Are you satisfied with the work they've done? It's like three or four questions. Would you prefer to renew the vendor? And I check, yes, if we're gonna renew the vendor. And they typically present those contract renewals. [4:13:11, 4:13:31]: But this is just one that I'm presenting because I was telling Mr. Gardner, I'm like, it's gonna expire and we're gonna have to do another solicitation. And if something comes up, we don't have anything in place to address that. Typically, the department does not bring the contract forward for renewal, but I'm just, you know, I went to Mr. Gardner, I'm like, when all [4:13:31, 4:13:37]: those calls came in Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday from the rain. I'm like, we gotta have something placed. [4:13:38, 4:13:49]: If if council wants to rebid it, then I'm okay with that too, but we still gotta have something in place to cover us in case there's an emergency, just like a couple of weeks ago up by the QT. [4:13:49, 4:14:09]: We were, I mean, very close to having to call somebody in because we don't keep all the materials on hand. We can afford to have material for everything in our system on hand. And that's why we have that on call. If there's an emergency that is beyond what we can do, then we have the authority. [4:14:09, 4:14:11]: to call that entity to help us out. [4:14:13, 4:14:15]: Right. No, Mr. Blanc, go ahead, please. [4:14:15, 4:14:21]: Uh yeah, let me make something clear and I agree with Mr. Mr. Gardiner and I would uh agree with Miss Barber. [4:14:22, 4:14:28]: And because as we talk, and that's why I was gonna ask Mr. Thomas to interject because [4:14:29, 4:14:34]: Councilwoman Barbie, you're exactly right. The problem I had was the increase. [4:14:35, 4:14:50]: to to there was the increase that was asked for this vendor when there was no work for the vendor. And that was mine was not to deny this vendor or to rebid it, it was that we did not need to add money to a vendor. [4:14:50, 4:15:01]: That was contracted for on call when we haven't used any money at at the time. Well, that shouldn't have came that that shouldn't have come to us. I'm okay right now. [4:15:01, 4:15:05]: With uh with on site being renewed. [4:15:05, 4:15:10]: It's at the time that it came for us, why are we gonna add money to something to [4:15:10, 4:15:19]: Take our budget up higher on it to for for spec speculative things that could happen when we didn't need to do it. It made no sense to me. [4:15:20, 4:15:26]: So right now what's before us is is our own call I'm saying on site being our own call. [4:15:27, 4:15:35]: A vendor, which I had no problem with that. I had a problem adding money to something that we're not using, the money that was already existing. So [4:15:35, 4:15:39]: With that being said, I would like the motion to approve the renewal of on call. [4:15:41, 4:15:42]: Right, done. [4:15:42, 4:15:45]: Are you second at Mayor Putem or [4:15:45, 4:15:52]: I raised my hand before, but okay. What what's your what's your thoughts? Go ahead, sir. Well, I I want to ask Mr. Aaron, because I do recall. [4:15:52, 4:16:04]: uh when we had those capabilities here at the city and i know we have seasoned guys there so mr ervan speak speak to that and and i think we sort of just gotten away from [4:16:04, 4:16:05]: Um [4:16:05, 4:16:11]: outsourcing, outbidding, and and I'm just wondering when are we going to look at [4:16:11, 4:16:12]: Um [4:16:13, 4:16:16]: the capability of of just doing some of these things ourselves. [4:16:18, 4:16:21]: You have a season. [4:16:21, 4:16:22]: Staff there. [4:16:23, 4:16:43]: Mayor Pro Tem Thomas, you're right. There are some things I got a staff right now that are doing some in-house things, but these are for some things that are beyond us as far as equipment-wise and some of the resources. Like right now, we got four projects pending$66,540. That would be the cost. We got two projects, six fifth. [4:16:43, 4:17:03]: one pathwood lane somebody called on Thursday and 186 Creek View Overlook that the engineers are looking at. We have experience we can do some project but some things you don't have the equipment and resources like that Hudson Bridge Drive we did last year. That was$125,000 that road had to be [4:17:03, 4:17:19]: be rebuilt. You don't have staff on board that have the expertise to rebuild the road. They're used to do things that are beyond our scope and capabilities and they don't have to go through the procurement process to obtain supplies and materials that we would have to go through. [4:17:20, 4:17:40]: And so that's why they are you something just like the ALME. It it wouldn't make sense for us to get into the business of resurfacing roads because it's not cost effective. But this, you spending$200,000 a year, you have that service, they come in and do some things that are that are beyond the scope of your paying. [4:17:40, 4:17:44]: for knowledge and subject matter expert. [4:17:44, 4:17:47]: And instead of hiring it, you're renting it. [4:17:47, 4:17:57]: And it's a lot cheaper than because that service does not come with you got to provide health benefits, you got to provide vacation, but they're just providing a service and they're moving on. [4:17:57, 4:18:11]: But staff is doing things that are within our scope of work because to go through the process we have to go through to do projects sometimes. It can be time consuming, but that vendor can come in and he can do it because he don't have to go through the hoops. [4:18:11, 4:18:15]: to buy materials and get equipment and all those things on site. [4:18:16, 4:18:21]: Well, in closing, Mayor, I I I'll just say this for public works and I think we're gonna have to get to this point. [4:18:22, 4:18:23]: Um [4:18:23, 4:18:33]: Bring your staff on, training. They they're already on board for the insurance and and and all of that. But I I just think we have to be about some training. [4:18:33, 4:18:36]: Well, I think we have to look at what we can do. [4:18:37, 4:18:43]: uh in house because you know I I in just my opinion, we're outsourcing way too much, in my opinion. [4:18:44, 4:18:50]: Uh but I yield back, Mayor. All right. And motion's been made by Mr. Blount. Is there a second to the motion? [4:18:53, 4:18:54]: Is there a second to the motion? [4:18:55, 4:18:59]: I second. Ms. Stan second the motion. Further discussion. Ms. Barber, you had your hand up? [4:19:01, 4:19:05]: Yes, Mr. Wiggins, what is the contract award amount for this? [4:19:07, 4:19:10]: I didn't see a copy of the contract included. [4:19:12, 4:19:15]: If the contract award amount is a hundred and [4:19:16, 4:19:19]: Fifty nine thousand, I'm not sure on the um [4:19:20, 4:19:22]: Okay, and the budget [4:19:23, 4:19:26]: The FY twenty twenty two budget for [4:19:26, 4:19:30]: Budget amount budget amount is two hundred and fifty five thousand. [4:19:31, 4:19:33]: Okay, so Mr. Aaron. [4:19:35, 4:19:35]: Um [4:19:38, 4:19:40]: You're just asking counsel to renew. [4:19:42, 4:19:43]: This contract. [4:19:45, 4:19:45]: Correct. [4:19:46, 4:20:01]: And for the budget amount, cause the first quarter, we've already, we're gonna when these projects that we have identified, they're$66,540. That's through the end of March. And we got two other projects they haven't given us the price on. [4:20:01, 4:20:02]: So [4:20:02, 4:20:07]: We're gonna exceed that hundred and fifty nine because I've been watching the trend. [4:20:07, 4:20:12]: Of our stormwater street. Then hold on just a second. Mr. Gardner. [4:20:12, 4:20:15]: 'Cause I don't mean that the city attorneys [4:20:15, 4:20:21]: or the treasurer or Mr. Gardner signed off on this agenda item review form. [4:20:21, 4:20:24]: So if he has task orders. [4:20:24, 4:20:26]: that are in hand. [4:20:27, 4:20:30]: That exceeds the city manager's authority. [4:20:30, 4:20:31]: Then those should be separate. [4:20:32, 4:20:33]: Items on the agenda. [4:20:34, 4:20:36]: One of the items should be [4:20:36, 4:20:39]: Um staff's recommendation to approve. [4:20:39, 4:20:41]: renewing this contract. [4:20:42, 4:20:45]: in the amount of a hundred and fifty nine thousand. [4:20:46, 4:20:49]: If you have any specific task orders. [4:20:49, 4:20:52]: That exceed twenty five thousand dollars. [4:20:52, 4:20:54]: Then you need to bring those to us. [4:20:55, 4:20:57]: Because I will not approve. [4:20:57, 4:20:59]: Well, I'm not gonna prove it anyway. [4:20:59, 4:21:02]: But you're asking to increase the award amount. [4:21:03, 4:21:04]: No. [4:21:05, 4:21:08]: The award amount is what it is. [4:21:08, 4:21:10]: If there are any it's um [4:21:11, 4:21:14]: Task orders that exceeds the award amount. [4:21:14, 4:21:17]: That is what you need to bring back to the council. [4:21:17, 4:21:19]: But I do not bel [4:21:19, 4:21:22]: These are conversations that need to be had. [4:21:22, 4:21:23]: Between staff. [4:21:24, 4:21:27]: the city manager and the department head. [4:21:27, 4:21:29]: By the time it comes to the council. [4:21:30, 4:21:30]: We [4:21:32, 4:21:35]: We were I'm not interested in hearing about. [4:21:35, 4:21:37]: You need a purchase order. [4:21:38, 4:21:41]: That's not what the governing body is tasked to do. [4:21:42, 4:21:44]: So I don't know why you keep insisting. [4:21:45, 4:21:47]: that we increase our warning out. [4:21:47, 4:21:48]: It's been awarded. [4:21:50, 4:21:50]: Wait. [4:21:50, 4:21:52]: It's no need in doing that. [4:21:52, 4:21:53]: So [4:21:53, 4:21:57]: Mr. Gardner, please. Um Yes ma'am, for for for clarity. [4:21:57, 4:21:58]: For clarity. [4:21:59, 4:22:01]: Staff wants you to approve. [4:22:02, 4:22:04]: The one year renewal. [4:22:04, 4:22:08]: For five hundred and fifty nine thousand three hundred and ninety dollars. [4:22:08, 4:22:13]: Yes, it is budgeted for over that amount, but it if and when they exceed that amount. [4:22:13, 4:22:17]: That's when we will come to you and ask your permission to exercise to go above that number. [4:22:18, 4:22:26]: But contract should be approved at the contract amount, which is one hundred and fifty-nine thousand three hundred and ninety. No more, no less. [4:22:26, 4:22:31]: If and when we come close to exceeding that, we'll come back to you guys, even though we know [4:22:31, 4:22:41]: Because what the question I asked was, did we exceed what was budgeted last year? And the answer to that was yes. So okay. So we increased the budget from what it was under the fiscal year twenty-one. [4:22:41, 4:22:43]: to fiscal year twenty two. [4:22:43, 4:22:48]: But the contract is below that. If and when they do the work and exceed that and there's more work for them to do. [4:22:48, 4:22:50]: That's that's that's genuine. [4:22:51, 4:23:05]: Then yes, we will come forth and say, Man council, we need to increase based on this number of work, the scope of work they've done, give you a list of all they have done so far, the work they've done that would add up to go beyond that amount. So [4:23:05, 4:23:11]: Our request is for approval at the hundred and fifty nine thousand three hundred and ninety dollars, no more no less. [4:23:12, 4:23:16]: Okay, so the way this item is written on the agenda. [4:23:17, 4:23:22]: It appears as though he's asking counsel to increase. [4:23:22, 4:23:23]: They weren't now. [4:23:23, 4:23:24]: He meant that [4:23:24, 4:23:44]: The FR 2022 budget amount, but he does not reference the contract amount. So I just want the record to be clean about what the motion is. That's all. Yes, ma'am. [4:23:44, 4:23:46]: Amount versus just amount. [4:23:46, 4:24:02]: is yes and then the under the background information you will see in the second paragraph um that the contract was approved for that 159 390 and that's the number that we're going under for the renewal for this year and like i said if dashes does come up with more work [4:24:02, 4:24:04]: Or the complexity of the work is [4:24:04, 4:24:06]: increases beyond that point. [4:24:06, 4:24:10]: That's when we will come for the authority to go above and beyond that. No, no, no time before. [4:24:11, 4:24:13]: Um don't try them off the day under. [4:24:14, 4:24:17]: I still want um a member of council to make a motion. [4:24:17, 4:24:21]: And refer to the item as it's [4:24:21, 4:24:25]: um written or printed on the agenda. [4:24:27, 4:24:30]: So yes, we the motion needs to be clear, that's all. [4:24:30, 4:24:37]: Yes, ma'am. And and that's something we need to do. We can make that change in there that says what is budgeted for and the actual request should be with the contract amount. [4:24:39, 4:24:49]: Mr. Zen, go ahead, please. Let me say it's almost 1030. Some of these questions need to be asked before the meeting. These meetings are excessively long. [4:24:49, 4:24:50]: For no reason. [4:24:51, 4:24:54]: Some of these questions need to be asked beforehand. [4:24:54, 4:25:01]: These meetings get longer and longer and longer because we exacerbate things that could be handled before the meeting. [4:25:02, 4:25:10]: I'm patient enough to sit here, but I'm tired of wasting my time. Over and over again, we have the same question being asked repeatedly. [4:25:11, 4:25:31]: Okay, now I don't mind listening to the conversation to educate myself, but I'm not going to reread the whole manual. We gotta move forward. I'm listening, I'm looking at people, I'm looking at Mr. Berry's uh Mr. the Chief's daughter come in and hug him. I'm looking at Mr. Berry's son in the back window, uh out of [4:25:30, 4:25:38]: The door trying to get their attention. We're affecting people's time and what they do with their families as we go along with this. [4:25:39, 4:25:49]: We gotta move better than this and more concisely than this. Make a decision and vote. No matter how you're gonna vote, you don't need to tell me how you're gonna vote. Just vote. [4:25:50, 4:25:52]: I hear you. I'll vote. Just vote. [4:25:53, 4:25:58]: But there's no reason that this meeting should still be going on at near ten thirty at night. [4:26:01, 4:26:04]: All right. So any other questions in reference to this uh [4:26:05, 4:26:05]: Proposal here. [4:26:06, 4:26:09]: No, I have no more questions, but I do have a comment. [4:26:10, 4:26:10]: What's that? [4:26:11, 4:26:11]: Um [4:26:12, 4:26:13]: As I mentioned before. [4:26:14, 4:26:18]: The way these items are added to the agenda and presented. [4:26:18, 4:26:22]: affects the discussions and decisions by the governing body. [4:26:23, 4:26:27]: So if staff can get it right on the front end. [4:26:27, 4:26:29]: We wouldn't have to ask all these questions. [4:26:30, 4:26:31]: here in the public meeting. [4:26:31, 4:26:34]: So I'm looking for Mr. Gardner. [4:26:34, 4:26:37]: To take a look at our overall operation so we can stop. [4:26:37, 4:26:39]: These long meetings. [4:26:40, 4:26:42]: I won't be asking any more questions. [4:26:42, 4:26:47]: prior to a meeting via email or phone calls because all of my questions. [4:26:48, 4:26:49]: are either ignored [4:26:50, 4:26:51]: Or I'm deceived. [4:26:51, 4:26:52]: I ask you right here. [4:26:53, 4:26:57]: So the public can hear me at ask the questions. [4:26:57, 4:26:58]: That's all. [4:26:59, 4:27:10]: Uh Mr. Uh Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead please. Well I just I just want to say this and uh Mr. Alexander uh I I I I agree with you, but sometimes we need to take our own advice because [4:27:10, 4:27:24]: That's the exact way I felt with the first item uh when you sort of just held you know the meeting up. So I'm just saying let's let's be let's be conscious of what we do as well. [4:27:24, 4:27:40]: um when it's in our favor and when it's not in our favor we want to criticize that so i think all of us can take a lesson and just govern ourselves to be short with whatever we're doing so i i just i can't appreciate anyone want to criticize [4:27:40, 4:27:45]: for someone else for asking a lot of question when they themselves [4:27:45, 4:27:56]: haul you know the early part of the meeting and i i just wanted to say that because i think we all have to learn lessons here and i think that's why sometimes when we have meetings that should be a lesson that that that's learned so [4:27:57, 4:28:06]: Let's let's listen to ourselves sometime. And I think we should be about just being direct and shortening these meetings so we can go. And we're talking about meeting in person. [4:28:06, 4:28:16]: All of these folks on this meeting as the attorneys, everyone would never be leaving trying to go home at 1030. So I'm just saying, let's take our own advice sometime. [4:28:17, 4:28:23]: I I yield back, Mayor. Okay. So on that note, there's no other conversation. I need a motion to accept this uh [4:28:24, 4:28:26]: A proposal for this con extension of this contract. [4:28:27, 4:28:28]: Sir emotion. [4:28:29, 4:28:39]: Mayor, I have it recorded as a motion from Councilman Blount. You got a motion of a second. Okay. Who second who second the motion then? I didn't. Okay, so all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [4:28:42, 4:28:45]: I'll pose. I got two four. I'll pose. [4:28:46, 4:28:47]: Of stain. [4:28:49, 4:28:53]: Okay, got okay. So what I have here is I got two zero one. [4:28:53, 4:28:56]: Uh I'm [4:28:56, 4:29:16]: You abstain as well. I'm sorry, my internet went out. I missed it. I missed my internet stall. So I did not get it. We just voted. Sorry. We just voted. Um Mayor Ford, I wanted to add a codicy. That's what you all told me. Um we just voted. I like to [4:29:16, 4:29:25]: So stand by stand by a second. All right, now listen. Okay, Mr. Blount, you made a motion. It was seconded by Ms. Gantt. All right. [4:29:25, 4:29:28]: Let's try this one more time. All in favor, the motion please indicate. [4:29:28, 4:29:29]: We just voted. [4:29:29, 4:29:30]: Stand by. [4:29:31, 4:29:32]: They're all polls. [4:29:33, 4:29:34]: Abstain. [4:29:36, 4:29:37]: Okay, so [4:29:38, 4:29:41]: Mr. Alexander, what's your vote here? I'm opposed. [4:29:43, 4:29:50]: Okay, so it's and and so Barber and Thomas abstain. So it's two, one, two. So obviously the motion doesn't pass. [4:29:50, 4:29:53]: Mayor Ford, I like to add a comment from I stand stand by one second. [4:29:54, 4:29:56]: It's holiday, you have that right there? [4:29:57, 4:30:03]: I do. I have it recorded two one two with Alexander opposing Thomas and Barber abstaining. [4:30:03, 4:30:05]: Okay, got it. Now, what's your comment, Miss Barber? [4:30:06, 4:30:08]: Um my comment was [4:30:08, 4:30:10]: I was expecting that. [4:30:10, 4:30:11]: Further information [4:30:11, 4:30:12]: Um [4:30:12, 4:30:13]: would have been brought. [4:30:14, 4:30:16]: back to the council from staff. [4:30:16, 4:30:19]: prior to today's meeting. [4:30:19, 4:30:23]: one day prior to this expiration date of this contract. [4:30:25, 4:30:27]: All right. Thank you. Ms. Gantt, go ahead, please. [4:30:28, 4:30:30]: Mayor, you said it did not pass. [4:30:31, 4:30:34]: No, didn't we have three council members to vote? That's a quorum. [4:30:35, 4:30:38]: But but but the passive measure is you have to have three in affirmative. [4:30:40, 4:30:40]: Correct? [4:30:41, 4:30:42]: The attorneys are online. [4:30:43, 4:30:49]: I don't know about three and affirmative for that. That was some that was something we that was a particular issue. [4:30:51, 4:30:55]: We we had a we have a quorum of three people that voted. [4:30:55, 4:30:57]: It was too abstained. [4:30:57, 4:31:00]: W we have three people who actually voted. [4:31:00, 4:31:01]: Correct. [4:31:01, 4:31:04]: It takes a three to it takes three to pass. Well it was two, one, two. [4:31:05, 4:31:06]: Thanks three to pass. [4:31:08, 4:31:09]: Repass. [4:31:10, 4:31:14]: Three to not only two I was trying to say it no and then you had two abstentions. [4:31:15, 4:31:15]: Okay. [4:31:16, 4:31:18]: So at this point we don't have a long call. [4:31:19, 4:31:20]: Uh or not um [4:31:22, 4:31:38]: That's for wait minute. That was I thought when it said it takes two to pass three to pass, that was for what a particular item that we were looking into at the time. Ms. Gantt, the motion failed. We didn't have three in affirmative. The most my understanding is the motion failed. We have two attorneys online. [4:31:38, 4:31:43]: They have to plead announce the fact that you need three, an affirmative to pass it. The motion failed. [4:31:43, 4:31:44]: So we're gonna move on. [4:31:44, 4:31:46]: Ma'am, that's not what I'm saying. [4:31:47, 4:31:59]: The what they're saying is we need three affirmative, but that was for a particular issue. That was for an I don't know if it was an appointment, it was something, but it was specific in the charter. [4:31:59, 4:32:05]: That's not our normal. You can't get a majority you can't get a majority, the majority of five. [4:32:06, 4:32:08]: Would still be greater than fifty percent. [4:32:09, 4:32:10]: Which would be three. [4:32:12, 4:32:12]: Okay. [4:32:13, 4:32:17]: And if it's three people and one of them opposed and two of them [4:32:17, 4:32:21]: Um approved in the majority, the two that approved. [4:32:21, 4:32:22]: No. [4:32:24, 4:32:24]: Are you sure? [4:32:25, 4:32:26]: Yes. [4:32:26, 4:32:29]: The motion failed, ladies and gentlemen. It's time to move on. [4:32:30, 4:32:31]: Position to reconsider. [4:32:33, 4:32:39]: Yeah, well we've already voted, we've moved on. Isn't that what you're voted? But the record we could we could [4:32:39, 4:32:54]: Stand by stand stand by resending your stand by please on motion to reconsider. Hold on, stand by. On that note though, he was in the descending, so I don't think can that be done? Well, but he was on the side that one, he was on the side of one though. [4:32:55, 4:32:58]: He he said he said he said no to the motion. [4:32:58, 4:33:00]: He opposed. [4:33:01, 4:33:15]: The oppos the opposition to the motion because the motion didn't pass, I think, and uh Jeremy, if you want to talk about offline, I think that his opposition with the extensions not being able to be counted and the motion did not pass, I think he can move to reconsider it. [4:33:17, 4:33:22]: Mr. Berry, you want to chime in on that? So stand by, please. [4:33:23, 4:33:25]: Right. Everything that's occurred [4:33:26, 4:33:32]: Right now has happened and then uh council member Alexander was in the minority because it voted down so he can bring a motion. [4:33:34, 4:33:35]: Motion to reconsider. [4:33:36, 4:33:37]: All right. [4:33:37, 4:33:39]: So the motion that has to be second, is that correct? [4:33:40, 4:33:40]: Second. [4:33:41, 4:33:42]: Mr. Blount seconded that motion. [4:33:43, 4:33:47]: All right. So the motion reconsider. I need uh I need a vote on that. [4:33:47, 4:33:48]: Motion to reconsider. [4:33:49, 4:33:50]: Yeah or no. [4:33:50, 4:33:58]: Three A's. Is there are uh two uh what what's your what's your uh no okay miss but Miss Barber? [4:33:58, 4:34:05]: Okay, so it's three one one. All right. So the motion has been reconsidered. So that means we have to redo the motion again. Is that correct? [4:34:07, 4:34:12]: Yes. Okay. So I need a motion to accept this uh the proposal that was brought forward. [4:34:13, 4:34:14]: So move. [4:34:15, 4:34:20]: So moved. Okay, second by Mr. Plant. Mr. Hazard made a motion. All favorite motion, please indicate. [4:34:21, 4:34:23]: Okay, three affirmative. [4:34:23, 4:34:25]: Okay, m Mr. Thomas. [4:34:25, 4:34:28]: Upsain, Miss Barber. [4:34:28, 4:34:37]: I'm staying and I wanna add the comment. I was Okay, stand by, stand by. I have it three oh two. Three zero two. Okay. What's your comment now? [4:34:38, 4:34:40]: I was expecting that. [4:34:40, 4:34:46]: Further review by staff would have come back to the council prior to today's meeting. [4:34:46, 4:34:47]: Um [4:34:47, 4:35:07]: since this contract expires tomorrow, but it did not. So I'm abstaining. Thank you. All right. So be it. We'll move on. The next uh next comment we had, next item deals with the uh the added item to to the agenda, dealt with the resolution uh to reconsider and uh reconsider an emergency order to repeal the emergency order that was uh that we have several [4:35:07, 4:35:23]: months or so ago and uh like for the attorneys uh mr washington if you can lead this discussion and if you're able to share the resolution uh that you drafted up just in case make sure everybody sees that if you could share the screen and put pull that up please and talk about this [4:35:24, 4:35:27]: Yes. Um part of the instructions that [4:35:28, 4:35:29]: We received [4:35:30, 4:35:36]: about wanting to reopen. We had passed a we had passed a motion saying that we were not going to [4:35:37, 4:35:40]: We had we had passed a motion saying that we needed to [4:35:41, 4:35:55]: close down the city and what the hot what the terms were going to be. And so we drafted a motion to be able to reopen the city. And we spoke with we spoke with Henry County, because that was a part of our resolution. [4:35:55, 4:35:56]: May actually [4:35:57, 4:36:01]: Never and I'm I'm trying to pull it up now. They actually never [4:36:03, 4:36:05]: Henry County actually never [4:36:05, 4:36:13]: passed or uh passed a resolution on this. And so, but we needed to because we passed the resolution one way and we need to do a resolution the other way because we [4:36:14, 4:36:20]: said that we would inform the citizens be in that way. And I'm pulling up the resolution now. So there's [4:36:38, 4:36:39]: All right. [4:36:50, 4:36:50]: [16625.6, 16626.2]: Wait a minute. [4:37:10, 4:37:11]: Um yes mom. [4:37:50, 4:37:51]: Okay. [4:37:55, 4:37:56]: Ms. Washington? [4:38:00, 4:38:04]: Here I'm looking for the resolution that I sent to you all today. [4:38:05, 4:38:05]: And [4:38:07, 4:38:08]: That's what I'm looking for. [4:38:10, 4:38:11]: All right. [4:38:12, 4:38:14]: Computer's been a little bit slow, so my apologies. [4:38:24, 4:38:26]: Can we vote to approve the resolution there? [4:38:27, 4:38:36]: Yeah, we can. I thought you would want to see it or have him discuss it. Well, I just for for the sake of time, I I we can just vote to approve the resolution. [4:38:36, 4:38:39]: Uh to have in person meetings. [4:38:39, 4:38:52]: And uh that's that's what okay, okay, okay. I'll tell you what. I uh stand by. All right, uh Mr. Washington, uh go ahead and describe what's in the motion. You got the lead on this, sir. Go ahead, please. Yeah, no, it just it just repealed the it just repealed the [4:38:53, 4:38:55]: August motion that we did. [4:38:55, 4:38:59]: And I thus Henry County did one in August of 2021. [4:38:59, 4:39:03]: And read off of that mo off of that. [4:39:03, 4:39:04]: motion we [4:39:06, 4:39:07]: Piggyback off of that. [4:39:07, 4:39:27]: And we said that we noticed that the COVID rates were down and the cases being admitted to Pete Mount Henry were lowering now. And so we're removing our state of emergency and then empowered the city manager to have a transition plan to work with the state and federal agencies to be able to coordinate the public health responses need. [4:39:27, 4:39:28]: Needed. [4:39:28, 4:39:29]: Where? [4:39:29, 4:39:30]: Yes, sir. [4:39:30, 4:39:45]: I would like to make a motion to approve the resolution as outlined by the city attorney to reopen the city for in-person meetings, repealing the previous order that the city issued. [4:39:46, 4:39:48]: All right, so Mr. Blount second that. [4:39:48, 4:40:08]: Any further discussion? If not, all favor please indicate Mr. Mr. Mr. Thomas, you have some discussion. Stand by, stand by. I'm sorry, Mr. Thomas, you have some discussion. Um I I I didn't hear uh a timeline, which I'm okay with uh reopening it. The only issue I have is is when and the timeline, because I think there are some things that we [4:40:08, 4:40:09]: [16810.0, 16812.4]: Um curriculum. [4:40:13, 4:40:30]: Well, honestly, I I I think we uh at this point we're just gonna have to disagree. I just think we need to go ahead and get open at the next meeting because this is just where we are right now. The staff needs to do what's necessary to get us back to opening. [4:40:31, 4:40:35]: Oh this is this was the resolution here. My positive, this is the resolution here. [4:40:35, 4:40:38]: The resolution repeal in the local emergency. [4:40:39, 4:40:40]: Is there a timeline? [4:40:41, 4:40:49]: Yeah, my motion immediately amended my motion to uh to add the timeline of the um April work session. [4:40:50, 4:41:10]: Okay. Is there a second to his additional? Okay, Mr. Blount. Okay. And it's uh that's the 26th of April, is what are you referring to? Okay. Motion's been made, been amended, and made again. So all in favor of motion, please indicate. And I got one, two, I can't stay everything. Um [4:41:10, 4:41:17]: Miss Bar Miss Barber, you what's your vote? Three. Miss uh Okay, you stay uh Mr Ms. Gantt. [4:41:18, 4:41:19]: Mr. [4:41:20, 4:41:23]: Yes, I I'm I um I accept. [4:41:23, 4:41:36]: Okay, so that's four zero one is what the motion is. Mr. Meripo Temper stains on that. All right, thank you, gentlemen, ladies, council, and motion passed. So we'll be having open meetings effectively, a work session. [4:41:36, 4:41:39]: On the twenty sixth of this month, we'll move forward on that. [4:41:39, 4:41:41]: Um if I can uh [4:41:41, 4:41:45]: Mayor well, you know what? Never mind. Sorry. [4:41:46, 4:41:46]: All right. [4:41:48, 4:41:49]: What what's uh what's happening here? [4:41:52, 4:41:58]: Mr. Washington, your screen is shown. Your screen is being shown, sir. Is this what you okay? Yeah, I'm I'm sending it to you all. [4:41:59, 4:42:00]: I'm sending you this exact motion now. [4:42:02, 4:42:04]: But I can stop sharing my screen with us. [4:42:07, 4:42:24]: All right. On that note, uh my comments are simply this. We we've opened back up for our meetings, but we still do have the pandemic is still there, but the numbers are down, the hospitalizations are down, people that are dying from this are down. And we opened up the the city hall a couple of weeks or so ago with masks being optional. [4:42:25, 4:42:27]: Uh so in this aspect. But anyway, for people are interested. [4:42:28, 4:42:34]: COVID testing is still available Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. at Red Hawk Field in Madonna. [4:42:34, 4:42:45]: And uh I have to admit I did that today with my spouse and it's a very quick process to get that done. And this uh CPR uh the uh PCR test is what what they do there. [4:42:45, 4:42:59]: And you can always go to Department of Health on Henry Henry Parkway, 9 a.m. to 130. Excuse me, 9 a.m. to 1130 for a walk-in basis for vaccinations. That would be Moderma and Pfizer. [4:42:59, 4:43:12]: And that um that is Monday through Friday, also from one uh one p.m. to two thirty p.m. And you can call for an appointment at 470-661-0005. All right, on that aspect. So [4:43:13, 4:43:22]: Uh that can you can do that and get tested and vaccinated right here in the in uh free of charge. Absolutely. So I want to talk about um [4:43:23, 4:43:31]: Some additional announcements for item for uh city events here. And so we're gonna go to uh in-person meetings. Let's say youth council meeting. [4:43:32, 4:43:37]: five thirty on a second Wednesday of each month, the Levi Meeting Room and City Hall on April thirteenth. [4:43:37, 4:43:49]: Main Street Advisory Board meeting the second Friday of each month at 9 a.m. by way of Zoom. Uh says the revised April meeting will be okay, it's been April meeting the 15th has been canceled. [4:43:49, 4:43:52]: Okay. Uh Main Street. [4:43:52, 4:43:53]: Um [4:43:54, 4:43:58]: Report Tim, uh I can you straighten me out on the main street visible says here, uh [4:44:00, 4:44:05]: says the meeting's been revised uh upon the fifteenth. That's been council, I guess. That that's cor that's that correct. [4:44:06, 4:44:16]: Uh I I believe so. Um I don't have the accurate and up-to-date information. I can help you with that, Mayor. They had rescheduled the meeting for the reschedule. [4:44:17, 4:44:22]: But City Hall will be closed. So that's why the meeting's been canceled. They're meeting in May. [4:44:22, 4:44:23]: Okay. All right. Thank you. [4:44:23, 4:44:27]: Downtown you know I'm sorry, what date you know the date in May, by the way? [4:44:29, 4:44:32]: Um second Friday of the month at nine AM. [4:44:33, 4:44:34]: I'm sorry. [4:44:34, 4:44:53]: They meet the second Friday of the month at 9 a.m. Okay, there we go. Thank you very much. Downtown Development Authority uh meeting is uh 6 p.m. by way of Zoom, second Tuesday of each month, which is going to be the uh 19th of April. New council advisory committee meeting 6:30, uh third Tuesday of each uh month in the Patrick Henry meeting room. [4:44:53, 4:45:01]: At City Hall on April nineteenth. The city council works uh session meeting last Tuesday of each month. You'll need to unlock your iPhone first. Excuse me. [4:45:04, 4:45:18]: Anyway, the um council work session uh meeting last Tuesday of each month, and it's going to be on April 26th, and that'll be in person at City Hall. Planning Commission meeting for Thursday at 6:30 p.m. by way of Zoom on April 28th. [4:45:18, 4:45:38]: uh city council meeting second monday of each month and that'd be May 9th and I'll also be in person. Upcoming city events uh we've got to continue salute to veterans please for your veterans' um uh names branch rank and years of service as uh mayor protem thomas continues uh to present and a special tribute to those local [4:45:38, 4:45:46]: Veterans. Pictures should be submitted to uh Z Pearson at city of Stockbridge-G A.gov. [4:45:47, 4:46:07]: And there's a job fair that's coming up with the city along with the Goodwill Thursday, April 21st. And also you have Delta Sigma Theta Sawardees involved in that cooperative uh job fair with the city and the goodwill. Employers will be on site to to resume assistance and immediate hiring. So it's uh so you have that. [4:46:07, 4:46:16]: opportunity to look for to get a job potentially and to be at the uh amphitheater and on April 21st, 9 a.m. to 1 p.m. [4:46:17, 4:46:24]: And it's an opportunity to meet the mayor in person, uh, bring the questions, concerns. That's Monday, April 25th. [4:46:24, 4:46:34]: And that says 9 a.m. to noon. And he calls the novia Pearson and schedule appointment, 770-389-7900, extension 248. [4:46:34, 4:46:38]: And Councilwoman Barber has the Easter family fun. [4:46:38, 4:46:50]: Which is Saturday, April 16th at Stockbridge First United Methodist Church, 4 p.m. to 6 p.m. And also on Sunday on the 17th, which is Easter Sunday, immediately following the Easter Easter service. [4:46:50, 4:47:10]: 10 30 to 12 p.m. free to everyone, free ice cream, free face painting. Come and have some fun and enjoy the Easter egg uh Easter type of events. On that note, I actually do know uh yeah, yes, Mr. Mr. Thomas. I just wanted to uh just state that the uh Main Street Advisory Board would be [4:47:10, 4:47:12]: uh May thirteenth. [4:47:12, 4:47:31]: May 13th. 9 a.m. May 13th. Okay, thank you, sir. Appreciate that. I I do know of of uh a Zekla session item that deals with Mr. Peterson and real estate issue. That's the only thing I know of. And I know it's getting late, but but uh if you want to get into Zeke session and just have this discussion, uh we'll do so if you approve it. Mr. Gardner, please. [4:47:33, 4:47:34]: You're you muted, Mr. Gardner. [4:47:36, 4:47:42]: Uh, I think Mr. Peterson wanted to have that um postponed and rescheduled for the twenty sixth. [4:47:42, 4:47:48]: Okay, fantastic. On that note, if there are no zego session issues or discussion, then I need a motion to adjourn the meeting. [4:47:49, 4:47:50]: Oh move. Is there a second? [4:47:52, 4:47:56]: Mr. Mayor Proten seconds that motion. All favor, please indicate. Aye. [4:47:56, 4:48:02]: Okay, it's an answer's decision. Okay, good night. Good night. Talk to you later.

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[0:02:53, 0:02:56]: And Mailford, if I may take liberty to [0:02:56, 0:03:00]: Uh to mention of course you and I and [0:03:00, 0:03:05]: Councilman Alexander were t together today at a conference as well, other staff. [0:03:06, 0:03:14]: And and I'm I'm speaking of this because as we draw near the end of this first quarter. [0:03:14, 0:03:16]: Uh I reflect on [0:03:17, 0:03:23]: where we are this year and how we're going forward. And I say all that to say is that [0:03:23, 0:03:27]: Um there are a number of opportunities. [0:03:28, 0:03:30]: For our great city and our citizens. [0:03:31, 0:03:34]: Uh, but we have to be in prayer. [0:03:34, 0:03:38]: Uh we have to be thankful for the little things, but we must [0:03:38, 0:03:40]: Constantly be in prayer. [0:03:41, 0:03:59]: and and and thinking for the small things in order to to get the big things. So I'm asking all of us here this evening to pray for all of us, pray for this great city and all of the citizens that are out there. We ask you to, if you would, to bow your heads. [0:04:00, 0:04:04]: And offer a prayer for our great city of Stockbridge. [0:04:05, 0:04:06]: Uh let us pray. [0:04:08, 0:04:09]: Father [0:04:10, 0:04:13]: Let this year be filled with wellness. [0:04:13, 0:04:15]: Peace, prosperity, and love. [0:04:17, 0:04:22]: Let us always give thanks for all of the things that we hold dear. [0:04:23, 0:04:24]: Our health. [0:04:25, 0:04:26]: Our family [0:04:26, 0:04:28]: Our citizens. [0:04:28, 0:04:30]: And our friends. [0:04:31, 0:04:33]: We ask for your guidance. [0:04:34, 0:04:36]: In your light to shine our path forward. [0:04:38, 0:04:41]: Let us lead this city from darkness to light. [0:04:42, 0:04:44]: From falsehood to truth. [0:04:45, 0:04:47]: And from wrong to right. [0:04:47, 0:04:50]: Let us remember that we're all one city. [0:04:51, 0:04:53]: Embracing all [0:04:53, 0:04:55]: and discriminating against none. [0:04:57, 0:05:02]: Father, give this counsel wisdom, strength, and courage. [0:05:03, 0:05:06]: That we may move the city of Stockbridge forward. [0:05:07, 0:05:08]: to his true destiny. [0:05:09, 0:05:12]: Of a bright and vibrant city. [0:05:14, 0:05:18]: We pray for an end to the plague that's upon this earth, Father. [0:05:20, 0:05:23]: May all those who have had heavy burdens have [0:05:23, 0:05:26]: Let their low be lightened with new hope. [0:05:27, 0:05:34]: Father, we ask that you restore happiness to those in disrespare in despair. [0:05:34, 0:05:37]: Bring love to the lonely [0:05:37, 0:05:39]: And food to the hungry. [0:05:40, 0:05:41]: Make well the sick. [0:05:42, 0:05:44]: And heal the broken hearts. [0:05:45, 0:05:48]: Father, we cannot thank you enough for [0:05:48, 0:05:50]: For all that you do. [0:05:51, 0:05:53]: But Father, let us all say [0:05:53, 0:05:54]: Thank you. [0:05:55, 0:05:56]: And amen. [0:05:56, 0:05:57]: Amen. [0:05:58, 0:06:00]: Please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. [0:06:03, 0:06:07]: I pledge allegiance to the flag. But we know the state still. [0:06:08, 0:06:16]: Two Republic, but which state, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:06:19, 0:06:21]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:06:24, 0:06:26]: Mayor Ford? Present. [0:06:27, 0:06:28]: Yeah, Pro Tem Thomas. [0:06:28, 0:06:29]: President. [0:06:29, 0:06:30]: Councilman Alexander. [0:06:31, 0:06:31]: Was it? [0:06:31, 0:06:32]: Councilwoman Barber. [0:06:33, 0:06:33]: Is it? [0:06:34, 0:06:35]: Councilman Blount. [0:06:35, 0:06:36]: Present. [0:06:36, 0:06:37]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:06:38, 0:06:39]: Present. [0:06:40, 0:06:44]: Airport, you have a quorum. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Uh Council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:06:48, 0:06:52]: So move. Okay. Uh Miss Gantt, so moved. Is there a second? [0:06:52, 0:06:55]: Sorry. Yeah, Mr. Blount, second dad. All in favor, please indicate. [0:06:57, 0:07:17]: Thank you, Junamus decision. Thank you very much. What you have before you, Council, review the minutes of the draft minutes for the council meeting February 14th and also the draft minutes for the council work session on February 22nd. Review those and our next uh actual council meeting, we'll go ahead and approve them. So if there are any changes or amendments, please get them to the clerk. [0:07:17, 0:07:22]: So we can make those adjustments. On that note, Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments? Excuse me, go clean your roll. [0:07:25, 0:07:27]: We do, Mayor, we do have one public comment. [0:07:28, 0:07:28]: Go ready, please. [0:07:29, 0:07:32]: Sonny Randanzo, Bryant Street, Stockworth, Georgia. [0:07:34, 0:07:35]: I have viewed the agenda. [0:07:36, 0:07:45]: It appears that those noise mitigation issues has once and has once again been forgotten. I'm certainly not surprised at all. [0:07:45, 0:07:48]: Rather disappointed as usual. [0:07:48, 0:07:53]: That you have not addressed the problem now. The concert is in a few days. [0:07:53, 0:07:57]: And your taxpaying neighbors are still in the dark about when the speakers [0:07:57, 0:07:59]: Will start blessing us out. [0:08:00, 0:08:07]: If you weren't aware, the day before the Shaka Khan concert, we were suddenly treated to an all-day sound check. [0:08:14, 0:08:17]: I Markware and the band. I assume. [0:08:18, 0:08:22]: It was an hour, it was an eight hour long ordeal. [0:08:22, 0:08:27]: With zero notice, could you please at the very least discuss the sound checks? [0:08:28, 0:08:35]: When will they be addressed? How long will it last? We deserve to at least be informed. [0:08:35, 0:08:42]: We are all tired of the city's surprises. This noise issue must be addressed as soon as possible. [0:08:42, 0:08:44]: We are weary of excuses. [0:08:45, 0:08:47]: Please hire a sound expert. [0:08:48, 0:08:48]: Please. [0:08:49, 0:08:53]: Also, please host the food truck Tuesdays at the park. [0:08:53, 0:08:55]: With the same concern and [0:08:55, 0:08:57]: That the Halloween festival was held. [0:08:57, 0:09:00]: With concern for the residents who are your neighbors. [0:09:01, 0:09:04]: They had a good time and were not disturbed at all and [0:09:04, 0:09:08]: This should be the model for all city events. Thank you. [0:09:09, 0:09:29]: Mayor, there are no additional comments. Again, we'll we'll address, we'll be able to address those issues as the conference season goes on. We'll be able to do that. And Mr. Gardner will keep us on track on that aspect as well. On that note, um, number three, council consideration to approve the award RFP 2021-0010 for the Ted Strickland Community. [0:09:29, 0:09:39]: Center Renovation to McWright LLC in the amount of$407,000 for the Economic Development and Main Street offices and Welcome Center. [0:09:40, 0:09:45]: Funding source building improvements presented by Mr. Peterson and Kira Harris Braggs. [0:09:45, 0:09:46]: Please. [0:09:47, 0:09:50]: Good morning, uh council. [0:09:50, 0:09:54]: And staff and citizens. Um, Miss Kira and I would like to. [0:09:55, 0:09:59]: Um present this short PowerPoint presentation on the Ted Strickland. [0:09:59, 0:10:05]: our renovations and in that presentation all of the details are outlined. [0:10:05, 0:10:11]: Um Miss Kerry, can you can you share your screen please? Yes, I would do that. [0:10:21, 0:10:22]: Okay. [0:10:23, 0:10:24]: You can go ahead, Miss Kira. [0:10:25, 0:10:29]: Okay, are you all able to see the um PowerPoint? Yes, we are. We're able to see it. [0:10:30, 0:10:31]: Okay. [0:10:35, 0:10:35]: Oops. [0:10:40, 0:10:41]: Sorry about that. [0:10:42, 0:10:55]: Okay, um good afternoon, um mayor and council members. It's exciting to be discussing our proposed repurposing and remodeling of the Ted Strickland Community Center. [0:10:55, 0:11:00]: Um, what was envisioned as a downtown home for the main street. [0:11:00, 0:11:06]: Program, Economic Development, and Welcome Center in the Stock Bridge Renaissance Vision and Strategic Plan. [0:11:06, 0:11:09]: is very close to becoming a reality. [0:11:11, 0:11:19]: As you all know, the current floor plan for the Ted Strickland Community Center features an open space with restrooms, large storage area. [0:11:19, 0:11:20]: Smart kitchen. [0:11:21, 0:11:22]: And a mechanical closet. [0:11:24, 0:11:31]: The proposed building renovations will provide a maximum usage of the available space. [0:11:31, 0:11:35]: This includes the addition of a large lobby with reception desk. [0:11:36, 0:11:40]: Um a conference room with adaptable board meeting capabilities. [0:11:40, 0:11:42]: Форвел апоінтет офіс спаси. [0:11:43, 0:11:44]: A break room for staff. [0:11:45, 0:11:49]: А лажворя дел хаузи департаментсь копір і суплиз. [0:11:49, 0:12:02]: This space will also feature an oversized work counter and what we are calling an intern desk, which is basically an area where temporary staff such as summer interns and volunteers would comfortably be able to work. [0:12:03, 0:12:06]: In addition, there will be ample storage space and an added coat closet. [0:12:07, 0:12:10]: And this design was provided to us by our. [0:12:10, 0:12:11]: Ам архітекці. [0:12:12, 0:12:13]: Um TSW. [0:12:15, 0:12:19]: The proposed interior design will be intuitive and welcoming. [0:12:20, 0:12:21]: with an open airfield. [0:12:22, 0:12:26]: Дел encourage collaboration, innovation, and implementation. [0:12:28, 0:12:31]: Vibrancy and functionality are priorities. [0:12:31, 0:12:33]: For the proposed space. [0:12:33, 0:12:34]: The colour palette [0:12:35, 0:12:42]: For this office, we'll incorporate the city's logo colors to bring vibrancy and a timeless style to the building. [0:12:42, 0:12:46]: Furniture and fixtures will be functional functional, durable. [0:12:47, 0:12:48]: And adaptive. [0:12:48, 0:12:50]: to staff and user needs. [0:12:50, 0:13:00]: flooring, wall cover, color, and all millwork will be durable and able to accommodate any future changes that the building will need. [0:13:05, 0:13:12]: Staff has followed the city's established procurement process and has identified McWright LLC. [0:13:12, 0:13:14]: As the contractor for this project. [0:13:15, 0:13:19]: They have arrived at a price of four hundred and seven thousand dollars. [0:13:20, 0:13:21]: For the remodel. [0:13:22, 0:13:26]: As confirmed by our city treasurer, the funds for this particular project. [0:13:26, 0:13:29]: Will come from the Ted Strickland building improvements. [0:13:30, 0:13:34]: Which is a part of the capital funding that is backed by Splas for. [0:13:37, 0:13:37]: And [0:13:38, 0:13:39]: If [0:13:39, 0:13:45]: You have anything else that you'd like to add, Alan? Um you can do so now. Yes. Thank you, Kira. Um [0:13:46, 0:13:47]: Staff uh [0:13:47, 0:13:51]: Council members and staff, um, as you know, the majority of the work that we do. [0:13:52, 0:13:55]: in economic development and in Main Street is in the community. [0:13:55, 0:13:58]: А we're excited about this project because this puts us. [0:13:59, 0:14:07]: Right there in the heart of our downtown, and we're easily accessible uh to citizens and uh business owners. So we we're excited about this and we're [0:14:08, 0:14:10]: Ready to answer any questions that you might have. [0:14:11, 0:14:16]: Thank you, Mr. Peterson. Council, what kind of questions do you have for these two staff members in reference to this issue? [0:14:17, 0:14:20]: Ms. Barber, you threw your hand up? Yeah, go ahead, please. [0:14:20, 0:14:25]: I wanted to ask Ms. Braggs, can you go back to the second to the last slide? [0:14:25, 0:14:28]: That shows the financial breakdowns. [0:14:28, 0:14:31]: Okay, let me try to do that. Hold on just a second. [0:14:38, 0:14:39]: Yes, ma'am. [0:14:39, 0:14:40]: Can you see that? [0:14:40, 0:14:42]: Yes, thank you. Okay. [0:14:42, 0:14:43]: Yeah. [0:14:44, 0:14:44]: Okay. [0:14:46, 0:14:49]: Okay, thank you. I wanted to ask um [0:14:50, 0:14:51]: Mr. Wiggins. [0:14:52, 0:14:52]: Um [0:14:54, 0:14:55]: Do you know how much we [0:14:56, 0:14:58]: budgeted for this particular project. [0:14:59, 0:15:00]: And if so [0:15:01, 0:15:03]: How much money or [0:15:03, 0:15:03]: That's it. [0:15:04, 0:15:04]: With a furniture. [0:15:06, 0:15:07]: For the furniture? [0:15:08, 0:15:08]: Yeah. [0:15:09, 0:15:13]: We budgeted f uh it was four hundred and forty four thousand. [0:15:15, 0:15:15]: For this project. [0:15:16, 0:15:17]: Okay, for the construction. [0:15:18, 0:15:20]: That I think that included F F and E as well. [0:15:21, 0:15:21]: Yeah. [0:15:22, 0:15:25]: It includes everything, get the the four hundred and forty four thousand. [0:15:25, 0:15:28]: was a uh budget amount and I think uh [0:15:29, 0:15:33]: Kara and Alan, when they went through, they included everything. [0:15:34, 0:15:36]: And uh when I told'em that's the budget, they [0:15:36, 0:15:39]: included everything to try to come up on the budget. [0:15:40, 0:15:41]: And they did. [0:15:41, 0:15:42]: Pony sent out. [0:15:44, 0:15:45]: For the construction. [0:15:46, 0:15:46]: Yes. [0:15:47, 0:15:52]: It's for construction. Thank you for uh w what else did you have on on the all? [0:15:52, 0:15:53]: Kingland. [0:15:54, 0:15:57]: Sure, if you need a book to that sheet. Oh, okay. [0:15:57, 0:16:11]: Okay. Doesn't include any kitchen appliances, desks, chairs, that kind of thing. Yeah. This is just for the construction. Um, because there was four hundred and forty-four thousand dollars budgeted for the total project. [0:16:12, 0:16:17]: We had some wiggle room, so construction came in under budget, so we have some space for. [0:16:17, 0:16:21]: Actually purchasing the furniture for the interior space. [0:16:21, 0:16:25]: We're only gonna have a small break room, so we won't require [0:16:25, 0:16:31]: Um any large kitchen fixtures uh we already have an ice maker that is there. [0:16:31, 0:16:42]: um ample counter. So they won't be doing a a lot of fixtures in the kitchen. The most fixtures will be associated with the office spaces, the desk and [0:16:42, 0:16:45]: Черс форсити. [0:16:45, 0:16:47]: And then the actual boardroom area. [0:16:48, 0:16:50]: Forward slash conference room area. [0:16:50, 0:16:54]: 'Cause also the the last year I think the the Ted was already uh [0:16:54, 0:16:57]: The kitchen area was already renovated. [0:16:57, 0:17:00]: So it's a lot of new stuff already there. [0:17:00, 0:17:01]: That they're gonna use. [0:17:03, 0:17:04]: Okay. That's true. [0:17:05, 0:17:06]: Thank you. [0:17:07, 0:17:09]: Council, any other questions that you may have? [0:17:10, 0:17:12]: Uh yes, sir. Go go write it, please. [0:17:13, 0:17:33]: Mr. Peterson, in terms of uh a sharing space between yourself and Main Street, how do you see that being played out in terms of your space versus uh what Main Street would share and uh how how is the layout in terms of the office? [0:17:33, 0:17:49]: Offices, uh we just had individual offices. So where's your office and where's uh the uh Miss Bragg's office or or lit or the assistant's office? Hold on just a second. [0:17:49, 0:17:49]: Mm-hmm. [0:17:57, 0:17:58]: Oops. [0:18:00, 0:18:01]: Beautiful family. [0:18:01, 0:18:03]: I'm sorry about that. [0:18:04, 0:18:05]: Thank you. [0:18:10, 0:18:11]: Okay, can you all see that? [0:18:12, 0:18:16]: Uh just your family right now. Oh we just see your your background. [0:18:16, 0:18:17]: All right, sorry. [0:18:23, 0:18:26]: Okay, now we have the slide. Now we have a slide present, please. [0:18:26, 0:18:28]: Okay. Very first slide. [0:18:28, 0:18:29]: This is what we have. [0:18:29, 0:18:31]: Sorry about that. Oh there you go. [0:18:31, 0:18:33]: There there we are. [0:18:33, 0:18:34]: Mm-hmm. [0:18:35, 0:18:37]: Can you see it, Councilmember Alexander? Yes, sir. [0:18:37, 0:18:39]: These are the offices here. Right. [0:18:40, 0:18:43]: If if you can you move your cursor to the offices, Miss Ms. Kira? [0:18:44, 0:18:46]: Yes. There you go. All right. Those are the [0:18:47, 0:18:49]: The uh the four offices right there. [0:18:49, 0:18:55]: Um now as as far as which one is going to be mine, Kira's and Lisa's. [0:18:55, 0:18:56]: Um, I don't know yet. [0:18:57, 0:18:57]: Mm-hmm. [0:18:58, 0:18:59]: Well I guess we'll uh [0:18:59, 0:19:03]: draw straws to see who gets the largest office. But um [0:19:03, 0:19:05]: But those are the offices right there. [0:19:05, 0:19:07]: Okay, so in terms of what you [0:19:08, 0:19:17]: envision on the economic development side, your use of this space would be primarily to do what you thinking uh you bringing the client [0:19:17, 0:19:21]: Yeah, uh prospective um business investors. [0:19:22, 0:19:26]: And depending on the number, I'll I'll likely have them in that conference room. [0:19:26, 0:19:33]: Mm-hmm. I like to have them in that in that conference room. Um the office I the office here is smaller than the office that I have in City Hall. [0:19:34, 0:19:38]: Um, so if if they bring drawings or anything like that, we'll be in in that conference room. [0:19:39, 0:19:40]: So um [0:19:40, 0:19:45]: Likely in the conference room is where I'm gonna have my meetings and we're downtown so we can walk downtown and [0:19:45, 0:19:53]: If we're going to a different part of the city, just hop in the city vehicle and drive with them. But you know, as you know, I don't I don't spend much time cooped up in the office. [0:19:53, 0:19:54]: So um [0:19:54, 0:19:56]: That that's the way we're we're going to arrange it. [0:19:58, 0:20:16]: So in terms of your future growth, and we like I would like to think that you would be growing your office. So we would have another office in there to add somebody uh to your department as well. I see we have four offices. So two of those offices would be yours and two of those would be Main Street. [0:20:17, 0:20:18]: Is that what the thought process is? [0:20:19, 0:20:21]: Or Miss Bragg, either one. [0:20:21, 0:20:33]: Well, um we did plan that was in our minds that we would want to plan for future growth. Um we also have the receptionist area here because someone can be seated there as well. [0:20:34, 0:20:36]: So we actually have [0:20:36, 0:20:37]: Um, five. [0:20:38, 0:20:39]: Spaces for staff. [0:20:40, 0:20:46]: And then an additional, as I mentioned before, an intern desk for um volunteer um [0:20:47, 0:20:49]: staff and or intern staff. [0:20:49, 0:20:50]: So [0:20:50, 0:20:57]: We feel that it is um ample that there is ample room for growth expansion of either one of [0:20:57, 0:20:58]: Um those [0:20:58, 0:21:01]: particular departments which is, you know, the [0:21:01, 0:21:03]: um economic development team. [0:21:04, 0:21:06]: Okay, and in terms of this project. [0:21:07, 0:21:07]: Uh [0:21:08, 0:21:09]: Lay out a timeline for it. [0:21:11, 0:21:15]: A pr I know you can't be sp you can't be down to the day, but something general. [0:21:18, 0:21:25]: Um well that would depend on um once we are able to um get [0:21:25, 0:21:27]: Move forward with the contract. Um [0:21:28, 0:21:33]: They are telling us that it would take anywhere from 90 to 120 days. [0:21:33, 0:21:35]: In order to um [0:21:35, 0:21:45]: do all of the renovations. And again, they gave us that wide window because there are some issues with um supply chain. [0:21:45, 0:21:56]: So there are some delays, or some projects have experienced some delays around the city with regard to receiving building materials. [0:21:56, 0:22:00]: But we feel that if we get started immediately, we would. [0:22:00, 0:22:10]: um be able to occupy this space by the end of the year or at the latest the early part of next year. But we would like to really push for [0:22:10, 0:22:15]: Um this year because again it is not a rebuild, it is a remodel. [0:22:16, 0:22:18]: Okay, well that that's very that sounds really um [0:22:19, 0:22:22]: You know, uh while that's aggressive to make sure that we can uh [0:22:22, 0:22:26]: Get this project going and get some construction in downtown going. [0:22:26, 0:22:28]: So it it creates some excitement. So thank you. [0:22:29, 0:22:36]: Thank you. I saw Mr. Blount's hand first, Mayor Purtain, if you don't mind. Um Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [0:22:36, 0:22:40]: Yeah, Ms. Bryce, could you put the uh the layout back up for me? [0:22:41, 0:22:42]: Yes, sir. [0:22:45, 0:22:46]: Is it up? [0:22:47, 0:22:49]: Yes. Yes, it is it is now. Okay. [0:22:51, 0:22:55]: Um, because I know one of the concerns that you all have had. [0:22:55, 0:22:56]: For quite some time. [0:22:57, 0:23:02]: has been storage space. And I'm looking at this. How how large is your storage space? [0:23:03, 0:23:05]: This is our storage space here. [0:23:05, 0:23:06]: It's sixty two. [0:23:07, 0:23:10]: I don't see could you see I'm moving the cursor? [0:23:12, 0:23:14]: Can you see that moving the cursor? [0:23:15, 0:23:17]: No, we don't see you can't see my cursor. [0:23:18, 0:23:18]: There you go. [0:23:18, 0:23:19]: There you go. [0:23:19, 0:23:20]: Okay. [0:23:20, 0:23:24]: This area here is sixty two square feet. [0:23:27, 0:23:30]: And the work area that we have here. [0:23:30, 0:23:35]: Is um all of that mealwork that you saw listed on the um [0:23:35, 0:23:36]: Pricing sheet. [0:23:37, 0:23:42]: That is going to be shelving, um, cubbies, drawers, and cabinetry. [0:23:42, 0:23:54]: so that we will be able to store um Main Street supplies and implements. If you've ever been in the Main Street closet here at the city of Stockbridge, it is chocked full at City Hall, it's chocked full. [0:23:54, 0:23:59]: So we took into the account that we do a lot of community events and activity. [0:23:59, 0:24:00]: And um [0:24:01, 0:24:06]: Programmed a lot of storage cabinetry and shelving in this particular work area. [0:24:07, 0:24:12]: We added this um storage space that is not present right now in the um Ted Strickland. [0:24:13, 0:24:19]: And then a dedicated cloak coat closet that would service this conference room. The conference room. [0:24:19, 0:24:22]: Um will also have cabinetry. [0:24:23, 0:24:26]: On both ends of the um room. [0:24:26, 0:24:29]: So we feel that we'll have ample storage space there. [0:24:29, 0:24:43]: But when we talk about tables and things like that, um, we are going to have to kind of rethink where some of that stuff is stored. We won't be using the large um round tables that are stored there currently. [0:24:43, 0:24:45]: Um but [0:24:45, 0:24:49]: That is something to think about with regard to how those tables are used. [0:24:50, 0:24:52]: Від Merrill Manders Conference Center. [0:24:52, 0:24:54]: and um the amphitheater. [0:24:56, 0:24:56]: Well [0:24:58, 0:25:00]: I'm just looking at um [0:25:00, 0:25:05]: future usage when I looked at the storage space and I know you guys had quite a bit. [0:25:06, 0:25:08]: Uh when you was designing this. [0:25:08, 0:25:28]: Was it designed and minded to only have 62 square feet of storage space or you was preferably trying to get more? Because I know that you guys talked about um items that we was uh Main Street was renting that we was if there was any purchase that's 62 square feet is pretty small. Um is that was there any [0:25:28, 0:25:35]: Any other area that you guys was looking at for storage? Because that was concerns. Oh, I'm sorry, sir. [0:25:36, 0:25:40]: I was gonna say Main Street as far as rentals are concerned, we [0:25:40, 0:25:51]: don't really do a lot of renting. We usually utilize the tables and chairs that the city already has in possession. We borrow them from the event staff. [0:25:51, 0:25:58]: Um, there is room um behind the Ted Strickland that we could um develop in the future. [0:25:58, 0:26:02]: Um to create um maybe a small um storage. [0:26:03, 0:26:04]: Um outbuilding. [0:26:05, 0:26:11]: Um, but that would be a part of our phase two of the alleyway project. We did kind of contemplate that. [0:26:11, 0:26:19]: But we really don't rent a lot of stuff. The things that we use, we utilize from [0:26:19, 0:26:19]: Um [0:26:20, 0:26:22]: the stocks that are already available. [0:26:22, 0:26:25]: through the Merrill Monders Conference Center and the event staff. [0:26:26, 0:26:31]: Okay. I was just looking at a lot of things like when we show movies and we do different things, but [0:26:31, 0:26:33]: Um I'm fine with that. Thanks. [0:26:33, 0:26:37]: Yeah, I was gonna say when we do movies, all of those tables and things that you see we rent. [0:26:38, 0:26:40]: From I make rent. We borrow from um [0:26:41, 0:26:42]: The better um [0:26:42, 0:26:46]: Event staff as far as the movie screen that is [0:26:46, 0:26:51]: Um, a part of the package that we utilize when we [0:26:51, 0:26:51]: Um [0:26:52, 0:27:01]: license our movies. Um so that's all a a a combo package, so to speak. The movie, the licensing, and the screen are a package deal. [0:27:01, 0:27:02]: Okay, thank you. [0:27:03, 0:27:04]: Yes, sir. [0:27:04, 0:27:10]: Mayor Proten comments, go ahead, please. Thank you. Uh Dr. Peterson and Ms. Braggs. [0:27:10, 0:27:12]: In terms of [0:27:12, 0:27:15]: uh commute community meetings [0:27:16, 0:27:17]: Focus groups [0:27:19, 0:27:26]: What is the plan? I know we've had uh as an advisory board member, I know we've had some sessions. [0:27:26, 0:27:33]: uh outside but what is the plans it's looking at the space uh uh on the interior [0:27:33, 0:27:40]: What is the plan for those types of uh community gatherings or focus groups? [0:27:41, 0:27:52]: Well, we were very um strategic and um very intentional with the creation of this space. Um we wanted to make sure that there was a large board slash conference room. [0:27:52, 0:27:56]: available in this particular facility because we would like [0:27:56, 0:27:58]: To be able to offer this space. [0:27:58, 0:28:03]: The small business owners who may need to um have a meeting space. [0:28:03, 0:28:07]: Ам, і спеціальні армтоун бізнес і антропенюрс. [0:28:07, 0:28:11]: Ви хост класи, ви хав аверий строгрші. [0:28:11, 0:28:13]: with um truest bank. [0:28:13, 0:28:15]: Project Hope and we also have [0:28:15, 0:28:18]: А стронг реляншеншип від Смал Бізнес Девелопна Центр. [0:28:18, 0:28:22]: out of the University of Georgia located at Clayton State University. [0:28:23, 0:28:24]: They provide um [0:28:24, 0:28:27]: Техніка асистент to our small business owners. [0:28:28, 0:28:33]: and our great partners. So we're hoping that we will be able to host classes there. [0:28:33, 0:28:39]: invite the community to this space and also serve as a welcome center in the downtown area. [0:28:39, 0:28:58]: We want um entrepreneurs, um, small business owners and um even developers to see this as a space where they can come meet with staff, learn about the community, and also learn about all of the investment opportunities that will be available in the city. That's why it was so important. [0:28:58, 0:29:06]: For us to locate the economic development offices in this space. We felt that having economic development here. [0:29:06, 0:29:09]: In the downtown with the Main Street program staff. [0:29:10, 0:29:13]: we would be able to kind of be that one two punch to be able to [0:29:14, 0:29:24]: give our prospective investors a view of our community, a welcome to our community, and then a display of all of the opportunities that we can offer. [0:29:26, 0:29:28]: In addition to that, uh Mayor Pro Tem. [0:29:28, 0:29:33]: The Henry County Chamber is in the beginning stages of of their incubator program. [0:29:33, 0:29:37]: And I've spoken with them about their program and they're in the beginning stages of that. [0:29:38, 0:29:46]: And so uh there's an opportunity for us to partner with them as well for businesses that are participating in that program that are from Stockbridge. [0:29:47, 0:29:56]: Right. We've talked with John about having almost like a a satellite type area um here in Stockbridge because um we think that there is a need [0:29:57, 0:30:00]: For the Chamber to reach out more to um [0:30:00, 0:30:03]: Екстендер річ то стокбridж бізнес. [0:30:03, 0:30:09]: And we think that this would be a win-win for our developing partnership with the Chamber of Commerce as well. [0:30:10, 0:30:13]: Right. I I I guess I was um [0:30:14, 0:30:19]: sort of going back looking at some of the things that had happened in the past. [0:30:19, 0:30:25]: And even potentially going forward, I know there's been a number of [0:30:25, 0:30:28]: uh sessions um outside [0:30:29, 0:30:32]: And and I guess I was I wanted to hear [0:30:32, 0:30:52]: um something along those lines. I know with the um the breeze way eventually is going to come. And and I guess um Mrs. Braggs, I guess as we go forward, uh when you meet uh with the advisory board, I guess some of those things come up. But I'm [0:30:52, 0:30:59]: Just sort of just going back, and the reason I'm I'm harping on this because I I just know how successful. [0:30:59, 0:31:11]: They were. And uh and one thing I I think uh as a board member myself and I think for the Main Street program, um citizens always came out. [0:31:11, 0:31:14]: uh for those uh sessions. [0:31:14, 0:31:30]: And uh there was a number of citizens that would that that that came out. And even when we met with the uh business owners uh recently, we had a large number to come out. I was looking at the the seating uh in the diagram, looked like there was like 14. [0:31:30, 0:31:32]: Seats in the conference room. [0:31:32, 0:31:34]: And I can put that back up. [0:31:34, 0:31:35]: Hold on. [0:31:36, 0:31:49]: And I guess eventually uh that would happen, but I guess I was just still sort of thinking uh in terms of going forward. And I I guess those things will happen, Ms. Brad, because I know you and um [0:31:49, 0:31:52]: Uh Miss Reed, I know you all [0:31:52, 0:32:06]: are always planning those kind of sessions. And I just know how successful they were uh when we had those um outdoor sessions. And I guess I wanted to hear if some of those things were [0:32:06, 0:32:15]: Um, you know, in the plan and and I guess without you answering that I I guess I guess they really are. But I I would just listen to see if you were gonna speak to any of that. [0:32:15, 0:32:26]: Oh um well I can do that. Um as you know, we have established a um downtown beautification and activation committee that is a a joint um committee. [0:32:27, 0:32:28]: Um that is [0:32:28, 0:32:30]: Composed of DDA members and [0:32:31, 0:32:36]: Main Street Advisory Board members and this committee is tasked with [0:32:36, 0:32:37]: Uh coming up. [0:32:37, 0:32:39]: with and brainstorming ways to [0:32:40, 0:32:41]: further activate our downtown. [0:32:42, 0:32:52]: We see the Breezeway as being an extension of our Main Street program and economic development offices. So we will be hosting. [0:32:52, 0:32:54]: Outdoor events um [0:32:54, 0:32:58]: рецепс мітн греть азви авай [0:32:58, 0:33:05]: in this space, in this extension of our offices, um, the Breezeway. So we're looking forward to that type of [0:33:05, 0:33:06]: Um [0:33:06, 0:33:08]: activation in the downtown because again [0:33:09, 0:33:14]: We want people to get used to coming downtown and being a part of downtown. [0:33:14, 0:33:15]: And being interested. [0:33:16, 0:33:17]: And being um [0:33:17, 0:33:18]: An active participant. [0:33:19, 0:33:23]: in this area. So we're looking forward to those types of activities. [0:33:24, 0:33:25]: Thank you. [0:33:25, 0:33:31]: Sir welcome. No, sir, no, stand by please. Stand by miss Gantt is next, please. Wait, Ms. Gantt. [0:33:31, 0:33:40]: Ms. Braggs, I s uh um thank you for that presentation. In regards to the uh the in the past, we've had another [0:33:40, 0:33:50]: rendering of possible office for Main Street and economic development, the DDA was included. Is the DDA included for an office space there as well? [0:33:51, 0:33:58]: Well, as we mentioned, we do have the um fourth office that is available for um [0:33:59, 0:34:12]: extended um staff use and or board use. We um the DDA is not a I guess a staff member, but they are a very active um partner and contributor to downtown development. [0:34:12, 0:34:17]: So we would be willing to make space for the DDA to be able to operate. [0:34:17, 0:34:20]: Out of um this particular um [0:34:21, 0:34:25]: Location and um again we have um [0:34:25, 0:34:33]: The intern slash volunteer space that is also available since they are um more of a a part-time presence. [0:34:33, 0:34:35]: In um our [0:34:35, 0:34:37]: Day to day operations. [0:34:37, 0:34:45]: But again, we have that extra office and if it is the um council's desire that can be utilized for them. [0:34:47, 0:34:48]: Okay. [0:34:48, 0:34:49]: Uh Mr. Gardner, please. [0:34:50, 0:34:55]: I'm I'm good. Um good. I I was just in the setting. Um Mr. Count uh Mr. [0:34:56, 0:34:57]: I'm April Tim. [0:34:57, 0:35:04]: Um, you know, when you have a large event that can't, you know, utilize the conference room, we we also still do have the Merrill Manderson City Hall. [0:35:05, 0:35:07]: Where you could have gatherings if you're doing [0:35:07, 0:35:18]: listening sessions and you need to have a larger room. We still have that facility right down the road to utilize as well, a city hall. So and this building is is geared to house economic development as a whole. [0:35:19, 0:35:22]: So your mean street, your DDA program. [0:35:23, 0:35:26]: will all be housed out of there, they're staffed by the same people. [0:35:26, 0:35:34]: Um so we should be pretty much good to go with this building and then that frees up some office space in City Hall, as you know. [0:35:34, 0:35:37]: We're we're going to have to grow a little bit. [0:35:37, 0:35:48]: Um and in light of some things happening in particular in the near future, if they do, we're we're gonna have to grow. So we're gonna need office space because City Hall is is uh full. [0:35:50, 0:35:52]: Okay, good deal. Uh Mr. Alexander, go ahead, please. [0:35:53, 0:36:01]: Yes, uh uh Ms. Kent uh kind of really stole my thunder there, but because of the DDA, we certainly are would encourage and support. [0:36:01, 0:36:02]: That um [0:36:03, 0:36:07]: You know, that we have the Office for Economic Development, which is Mr. Peterson. [0:36:07, 0:36:13]: And then the DDA uh certainly does need a space because it's active and certainly [0:36:13, 0:36:24]: uh those individuals uh need the equal representation. So that certainly would be my suggestion to have one academic development and then one DDA office in the building too. [0:36:26, 0:36:28]: All right, any other questions, comments from the council? [0:36:29, 0:36:32]: And if Miss Barber, you have something you need to say? [0:36:32, 0:36:35]: Ms. Braggs. Yes, ma'am. [0:36:35, 0:36:37]: the capacity of the conference room. [0:36:38, 0:36:46]: Um it is it is set up for 14 people at the table. However, we are going to be getting a um [0:36:47, 0:36:53]: a board table that can be um broken down into different quadrants. [0:36:53, 0:37:04]: So we would be able to get additional chairs around the single tables if we need to. We wanted this space to be very adaptable and the furniture that we select. [0:37:04, 0:37:13]: to be adaptable as well to be able to accommodate more numbers when we're not in a board meeting setting. [0:37:16, 0:37:19]: Okay. Any other questions or concerns? [0:37:19, 0:37:22]: If not, I need a motion to accept this proposal, please. [0:37:24, 0:37:29]: It's a motion to accept the proposal. Ms. Barber, you you you're making that motion, Miss Barber? Is there a second? [0:37:30, 0:37:36]: Mr. Okay, Mayor Potem, I'm sorry. Mayor Potem seconded that motion. Okay. If there's no further discussion, all favor, please indicate. [0:37:38, 0:37:40]: And Miss Cat. [0:37:41, 0:37:43]: Oh Ms. Gantt, did you vote? [0:37:44, 0:37:48]: Okay, you voted us in a an affirmative. Okay, so it's a decision. Okay, thank you very much. [0:37:49, 0:37:49]: All right. [0:37:50, 0:37:51]: Thank you very much, everyone. [0:37:52, 0:37:53]: Well, thank you very much, Council. [0:37:54, 0:37:59]: The sewer department is requesting the city council's approval to renew the term contract. [0:38:00, 0:38:20]: For request for proposal number 2018-001Q, special non-hazardous waste service agreement between Republic Services of the City of Stockbridge in the amount of$35,000. Funding source is a sewer budget uh department budget presented by Mr. Aaron and Mr. Brown Broadshore. [0:38:19, 0:38:21]: Holsener, excuse me, Mr. Holsener. [0:38:21, 0:38:22]: Go ahead, please, gentlemen. [0:38:23, 0:38:26]: Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council, I'll let Mr. Holtzinger speak to this item. [0:38:27, 0:38:30]: Thank you, Mayor Council, for hearing me and um just [0:38:30, 0:38:33]: This what we want is [0:38:33, 0:38:53]: Where we take our residual sludge. Just I want you to know we don't we try our very best to limit all we can limit what we take to the landfill. We normally take it to farmers fields where we apply it there where it really all it costs. [0:38:53, 0:39:13]: We have to take it to the landfill when weather doesn't permit or the farms don't permit via their cutting hay or something like that. This is also a manner of logistics. [0:39:13, 0:39:24]: There's really no other place around that's reasonably close and this is a good ways away for us to take it. It's a manner of just I have to. [0:39:26, 0:39:30]: Okay. Mr. Blount, do you have a question, sir? Go ahead. [0:39:35, 0:39:37]: Uh can't hear you, Mr. Blount. You're muted. [0:39:39, 0:39:47]: Mayor and the sake of time, unless other council members have some questions pertaining to this, I would like for us to uh I motion to approve the agreement between uh [0:39:48, 0:39:54]: uh um for the uh between Republican the city of Stockbridge or for a sum of thirty five thousand dollars. [0:39:54, 0:40:01]: Okay. So all right. Let's do out of curiosity, Miss Gan second that Miss Barber, you have some additional comments. Go ahead, please. [0:40:01, 0:40:04]: I do. Um so [0:40:05, 0:40:08]: Is this a one-year contract or is it a month-to-month? [0:40:11, 0:40:29]: No, ma'am, this is an annual contract because with sluds, as Mr. Holstinger said, sometimes it's raining and you can't access the fields. And also each field has a limit that a EPD will allow us to apply on those fields. So once you reach that limit. [0:40:30, 0:40:36]: And weather conditions, you have no other choice but to land apply to sludge, and all landfills do not take sludge. [0:40:37, 0:40:39]: Okay, so looking at the [0:40:40, 0:40:42]: Service agreement doesn't expire until [0:40:43, 0:40:46]: Well, no, it part last year in December. [0:40:49, 0:40:50]: Okay, so [0:40:54, 0:40:55]: I'm confused. [0:40:55, 0:40:58]: I'm looking at this um service agreement. [0:40:59, 0:41:04]: And the expiration date expired December fourth of twenty twenty one. [0:41:04, 0:41:11]: So if we approve it now with this existing contract, will expire as of [0:41:11, 0:41:12]: Today. [0:41:12, 0:41:17]: twenty twenty three or will it expire December of twenty twenty-three? [0:41:17, 0:41:18]: Well [0:41:18, 0:41:19]: Mr. B are you? [0:41:20, 0:41:28]: We'd like for it to expire December 2023 since it's it goes from budget year to bur budget year, so it's not a mid-year. [0:41:28, 0:41:35]: uh renewal so we're adding those months to get us to 2023 so that we're on the same calendar cycle as the budget. [0:41:36, 0:41:40]: Okay, this is for thirty-five thousand. [0:41:40, 0:41:41]: Yes, ma'am. [0:41:41, 0:41:45]: Okay. This is not one of those automatic renewal contracts. [0:41:45, 0:41:48]: No ma'am, it comes before you every year because. [0:41:49, 0:41:55]: F uh the budget amount typically exceeds the city manager's signing authority and this is a yearly renewal. [0:41:57, 0:41:57]: Okay. [0:41:58, 0:42:00]: I wanna ask really quick. [0:42:00, 0:42:01]: There are Wiggins. [0:42:02, 0:42:04]: And Mr. Gardner, I don't see Mr. Berry here. [0:42:05, 0:42:08]: But I'm curious, now they review this contract. [0:42:09, 0:42:12]: I'm just looking at the agenda request form and I don't see [0:42:12, 0:42:13]: You think we need it? [0:42:15, 0:42:16]: Mr. Wiggins. [0:42:16, 0:42:19]: I'm not sure if uh Mr. Berry's uh [0:42:20, 0:42:23]: reviewed his contract. I don't I don't think it's one of these contracts. [0:42:24, 0:42:26]: uh that has come before him. [0:42:27, 0:42:27]: Um [0:42:28, 0:42:30]: I think this is just a uh [0:42:30, 0:42:32]: It's almost like uh uh operations. [0:42:33, 0:42:34]: For public works. [0:42:35, 0:42:35]: So [0:42:36, 0:42:41]: Normally if it was uh up under the city manager, they would go ahead and do it. But since it's over [0:42:42, 0:42:45]: The city manager, this type of operating budget is uh [0:42:45, 0:42:47]: It just needs your uh uh [0:42:47, 0:42:49]: The city council's approval. [0:42:50, 0:42:52]: No, but we always need legal. [0:42:53, 0:42:54]: Ado. [0:42:55, 0:42:55]: That's all. [0:42:58, 0:42:59]: All right, any other comments from the council? [0:43:01, 0:43:06]: Motion was made and seconded. So all all members if if you approve this, please indicate [0:43:08, 0:43:08]: One [0:43:09, 0:43:10]: Two, three. [0:43:10, 0:43:11]: Miss Barber? [0:43:13, 0:43:13]: I'm sorry. [0:43:14, 0:43:20]: I'll abstain only because um four zero one thank you haven't information just yet. [0:43:21, 0:43:21]: Sorry. [0:43:22, 0:43:25]: All right. Four zero one motion. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you. Welcome, sir. [0:43:26, 0:43:31]: The public works uh department is requesting the city council approval to renew a term contract. [0:43:31, 0:43:47]: For with contract number two thousand one nine two zero one nine-zero zero zero twenty-two P facility maintenance solutions groundkeeper landscaper between uh CGL facilities management LLC and the city of Stockbridge an amount of three hundred thousand. [0:43:48, 0:43:49]: Three hundred thousand dollars. [0:43:49, 0:43:53]: The funding source is a public works budget presented by Mr. Aaron, please. [0:43:53, 0:44:04]: Yes, Ms. Mayor and Council. Staff is coming back, coming tonight to ask the city to renew the contract with CGL. I think a month or so ago, you approved the budget amount. [0:44:05, 0:44:06]: For this uh [0:44:07, 0:44:08]: Contract uh [0:44:08, 0:44:16]: to go ahead with the budget, which was$300,000. So we just ask you to approve the renewal of the contract. [0:44:16, 0:44:18]: For the right-of-way maintenance. [0:44:19, 0:44:19]: Okay. [0:44:20, 0:44:22]: Council questions and concerns you may have. [0:44:23, 0:44:24]: Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [0:44:25, 0:44:29]: Yes. Um in comparison to last year. [0:44:30, 0:44:32]: Has there been an increase in the cost? [0:44:33, 0:44:37]: Well, that there's increase because of materials and fuel and [0:44:38, 0:44:40]: increases and things like that. [0:44:40, 0:44:43]: That the nine point six percent that's showing. [0:44:43, 0:44:48]: Yeah. But but also we took into account that during the last service deliveries. [0:44:49, 0:44:49]: Agreement. [0:44:50, 0:44:57]: with the county that we uh receive some roles that we hadn't normally been maintaining. So those are gonna be included as well. [0:44:57, 0:45:03]: Okay, but as it pertains to the m material cost and labor cost. [0:45:05, 0:45:08]: What's the difference between last year and this year? I just want to compare this. [0:45:09, 0:45:12]: Well, right now there's some um [0:45:12, 0:45:18]: conversation between Ms. Miller and N CGL because the state hasn't officially [0:45:19, 0:45:28]: approve the increase amount. So we're still operating on last year's contract amount until the state determines if they can increase their pricing. [0:45:31, 0:45:31]: Thank you. [0:45:33, 0:45:34]: Any other questions from the council? [0:45:37, 0:45:39]: Okay, if there's no other questions, is there a motion to accept this proposal? [0:45:40, 0:45:45]: We're piggybacking off of a state contract with this, correct? Yes, ma'am. [0:45:45, 0:45:46]: Yes, I have. [0:45:49, 0:45:51]: So a motion to approve this proposal. [0:45:53, 0:45:58]: Uh well y yes. So okay m mr Mr. Alexander, Ms. Gantt, you second that motion? [0:45:59, 0:46:05]: Yes. Okay, good. Any further discussion? And if not, all in favor, please indicate. [0:46:06, 0:46:10]: It's uh look unanous decision. Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. Aaron. [0:46:11, 0:46:12]: Thank you, Mr. Mayor and Council. [0:46:13, 0:46:33]: Public Works Department is requesting City Council's approval to piggyback on contract for Unifirst, Sourcewell, RFP number 040920, City of Stockbridge contract number 2020-0027P for uniforms and related products and services through May 2024. [0:46:33, 0:46:40]: for the annual amount of thirty thousand dollars. The funds will be provided from the accountant numbers. 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One hundred dash one five six five zero dash five three one seven. [0:47:51, 0:47:52]: Five zero. [0:47:52, 0:48:11]: in the FY 2022 and FY23 but 2023 budgets presented by Mr. Aaron. Go ahead sir please. Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. This is for approval of the uniform contracts for the public staff and event staff. And it also includes mats and rugs at City Hall and assorted city buildings. [0:48:13, 0:48:15]: Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [0:48:15, 0:48:27]: Mayor, unless there's any questions from uh there's any questions from the council. I'd like to I do have a question. There's some questions there, sir. It seems like Mr. I I got hold on, Mr. Mayor Potem. Council I'm in Nile Zan, go ahead, please. [0:48:27, 0:48:35]: Yeah, the one thing that I want to understand is uh as we're moving forward and we're doing the rebranding with the new brand for the city. [0:48:36, 0:48:52]: And then with the new slogo and uh are these old uniforms that we're ordering, or we're looking at uh doing something new and uh and falling in line with the new branding for the city, uh where community connects, uh the new colors, the new logo. [0:48:52, 0:48:58]: because uh that that would seem to be appropriate at this point instead of ordering old uniforms. [0:49:00, 0:49:02]: Well, these uniforms don't have [0:49:03, 0:49:16]: at the moment don't have the logo on maybe a few of them but they typically have a a person's name and on one side and the city of Stockbridge on the other side. If we wanted to incorporate the city's logo we can meet with the vendor and [0:49:16, 0:49:18]: And request that. [0:49:18, 0:49:21]: Well well that's what I would suggest that you do. [0:49:21, 0:49:41]: Is that you bring it back to us and then uh you know, because as we go forward, we want that we want everybody out there marketing the brand appropriately. So when somebody sees a public works person, we want them consistent in seeing the same logo as on the amphitheater or the new police department. So how much time do you think that would take? [0:49:42, 0:49:49]: I have the the vendor normally comes on Thursday, so he'll be here the uh this Thursday. I'll have that conversation with him. [0:49:50, 0:49:51]: Okay, with that. [0:49:51, 0:49:51]: Okay. [0:49:52, 0:49:58]: Go ahead. And I'll and I'll r respond to Mr. Gardner as to the time frame to get those switched over. [0:49:58, 0:50:03]: Well, that's my thought. I don't know about the rest of the council. I think we need to do that. Yeah. [0:50:03, 0:50:12]: 'Cause some of most of them too are polo shirts and they just have City of Stock Bridge on them. They don't have a logo, so we'll we'll request that. [0:50:13, 0:50:14]: Yeah, we want to do better. Thanks. [0:50:15, 0:50:15]: Nice. [0:50:16, 0:50:18]: Air Pro Town, please, go ahead. [0:50:18, 0:50:22]: Uh Mr. Aaron, I know we mentioned here um [0:50:22, 0:50:25]: These budget line items. [0:50:26, 0:50:30]: Uh can you recall the amount that's [0:50:31, 0:50:36]: in the budget for uniform and you you mentioned here several items. [0:50:36, 0:50:40]: Um, do you have a rough estimate of [0:50:40, 0:50:43]: And it for the twenty twenty-two budget. [0:50:44, 0:50:46]: that total amount and and I guess [0:50:48, 0:50:50]: I I I'm assuming [0:50:50, 0:50:59]: The this category is something that we always approve every year. I know we haven't got to the 2023. [0:51:00, 0:51:03]: All the twenty twenty four budget, but [0:51:03, 0:51:06]: Uh give us an idea of what's [0:51:07, 0:51:09]: Just for twenty twenty two. [0:51:10, 0:51:13]: Uh just roughly how much was approved. [0:51:14, 0:51:17]: uh for uniforms in that 2022 budget. [0:51:18, 0:51:30]: The each division in public works has a line item for uniforms, water has a line item, sewer, storm, water, sanitation, government buildings, general maintenance, and events, events as well has a line item. [0:51:31, 0:51:49]: for our uniforms and the cost is based on the number of employees in that division. Uh general maintenance would have the largest uniform cost because they have the largest number of employees. So they're probably at about$10,000,$12,000. Then next would be the sewer department, then water department. [0:51:49, 0:51:55]: then events would be a smaller cost. I don't know what that budget is, but it is included in this. [0:51:55, 0:51:59]: this cost because they've got two employees. [0:51:59, 0:52:00]: Sorry. [0:52:00, 0:52:01]: I'm sorry. [0:52:01, 0:52:08]: is based on the number of employees, but general maintenance has the largest uh share of the expense for uniforms. [0:52:09, 0:52:25]: So these line item numbers, uh, they consist they consist of um a number of departments. Uh I believe that's that's what you say. So all of these numbers here, they they vary through the various departments. [0:52:26, 0:52:33]: Yes, so based on the number of employees, each employee gets 11 uniforms and they get a jacket for the winner. [0:52:33, 0:52:43]: So that's part of the uh uniform agreement and plus some of the rubs you see in in City Hall, the mats you wipe your feet on when you come in the door, that's a part of the uniforms as well. [0:52:44, 0:52:52]: So if if so if I go back and look at these numbers, then I'll be able to see uh exactly what department uh it's it's coming out of. [0:52:53, 0:52:54]: Yeah. Okay. [0:52:55, 0:53:01]: If you need a breakdown, we have a spreadsheet for the public works. We don't have it for [0:53:01, 0:53:21]: uh the event staff as they're not a part of public works, but for each uh division within public works, we can get you those figures for what it costs for uniforms. Okay, no, no problem. I'm just out of curious, uh all of the numbers that you mentioned, I I I just wanted to hear you say that they were from the different departments [0:53:21, 0:53:33]: departments. So it's just uh information, just knowledge that I I just like to know about the budget. And when you start throwing out these uh line items, uh you answered my question as far as [0:53:33, 0:53:38]: they come from a number of departments. So that's just the information I needed to know. [0:53:39, 0:53:40]: All right. Thank you, sir. [0:53:40, 0:53:42]: Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [0:53:44, 0:53:48]: In re in respect to the request by Mr. Alexander. [0:53:48, 0:54:08]: um on a motion would you be willing for us to go ahead motion to agree with this and then if the amount exceeds the purview of the city manager then it would come back to us that way if it doesn't these items can be approved through the city city that that portion can be approved through the city manager and it can go on forward and what [0:54:08, 0:54:11]: would have to come back to us. Are you amenable to that, Ms. Allison? [0:54:11, 0:54:11]: No. [0:54:12, 0:54:18]: I I I I think that they might be okay, but wouldn't we wanna see them to see what they look like? [0:54:19, 0:54:23]: I don't know. Maybe y'all don't do that. I'm assuming it would be the city's logo. [0:54:24, 0:54:29]: And and the names on the suits and their names in the city logo like we do on our shirts. [0:54:31, 0:54:37]: Mr. Gardner has his hand up. What is he saying? Well, yeah, I mean he could uh but go go ahead, Mr. Gardner. [0:54:37, 0:54:39]: Yes, yes, sir. Um [0:54:40, 0:54:48]: The the process already allows for that council member Blount that once you approve this and then we go back and have [0:54:48, 0:54:50]: The um [0:54:50, 0:54:56]: Consultants um add the city's uh current logo, which um council member [0:54:56, 0:55:01]: Alexander makes a lot of sense that you know, we start showing showing our new branding. [0:55:01, 0:55:06]: And it should be throughout not all vehicles and on our shirts and and and uniforms. Um [0:55:07, 0:55:27]: You know, if that process, like any other process, once it's approved and we go ahead, we got the contract to add any addition, if that exceeds the 25,000, yes, we will bring that back. That's the normal process that we have in place. So it doesn't have to be part of the motion. That's just that's our normal operating procedure. That if it comes in at$10,000. [0:55:27, 0:55:32]: dollars, I can sign that to make sure that moves forward as long as we have the funds and the budget to to cover it. [0:55:33, 0:55:53]: Yeah, but uh but because I the I I was here to bring it back and I think your amount is twenty five thousand uh that that's correct. Yeah, if it exceeds that then it automatically comes back to you guys. Yeah, but uh I'm saying that w if we could go ahead and approve it tonight and let it go through the process and if it needs to come back to us, we'll allow it to come back to us. But I like if we can just go ahead and approve it tonight if that's [0:55:53, 0:56:13]: Okay with uh discount. Yeah, yeah. I mean what I was saying was that our normal procurement procedure would allow for me to assign anything and to assign off on anything under the 25. So that's normal. It doesn't have to be part of the motion. That's just part of our normal operating procedures. But if it does, we'll bring it back. If it falls under that, we'll bring it down and [0:56:12, 0:56:20]: It's gonna be the same logo, whether it's the S and the and the and the sloops underneath and then the employee's name. [0:56:20, 0:56:23]: I mean, it's gonna be existing logos, not gonna be anything we change. [0:56:23, 0:56:26]: Well I would I would like to motion to approve the uh [0:56:26, 0:56:32]: The thirty thousand dollars with the contingency that was set forth to uh for the approval for the logo. [0:56:33, 0:56:37]: A second. All right. Ms. Barber, you had a question. [0:56:39, 0:56:43]: Okay, so what is before us is a proposal. [0:56:43, 0:56:46]: This proposal is for two years. [0:56:46, 0:56:49]: And I'm looking at the pricing structure and it talks about a [0:56:50, 0:56:56]: five year contract term commitment, a four-year contract term commitment, and a three-year contract term. [0:56:56, 0:56:57]: Commitment. [0:56:58, 0:57:00]: I don't see a breakdown of what [0:57:01, 0:57:03]: those costs are and I'm sure [0:57:03, 0:57:04]: The longer the term. [0:57:05, 0:57:06]: Maybe the less. [0:57:06, 0:57:07]: We [0:57:08, 0:57:08]: Span. [0:57:10, 0:57:11]: But I'll have a breakdown of that. [0:57:13, 0:57:14]: Can anybody [0:57:14, 0:57:17]: Answer that question. Mr. Aaron, could you have that, sir? [0:57:18, 0:57:30]: That would have to come from procurement. Procurement gave us the the information to upload for the agenda, but I know over the last two years we haven't had an increase in the uniform costs. [0:57:31, 0:57:37]: But this is a proposal for a two year agreement. Well, we can strike the [0:57:37, 0:57:45]: We can strike out 2023. I don't know. And we go with the current year and we'll revisit that next year. [0:57:47, 0:57:49]: Because twenty twenty three is not here yet. [0:57:50, 0:57:54]: Well, n what is before us, you're asking. [0:57:54, 0:57:56]: For us to approve. [0:57:57, 0:57:58]: This two year. [0:57:58, 0:57:59]: Proposal. [0:58:02, 0:58:02]: Yeah. [0:58:04, 0:58:10]: My well stand by stand by first. Uh Ms. Barb okay. Mr. Garner, go ahead, please. [0:58:10, 0:58:20]: Uh council member Baba, I mean, if if you look at what's happening now with everything going up, I think if we lock the price in for the next two years at the 30, um [0:58:21, 0:58:27]: That might actually save us versus having to come back and if if we're in in a worse um [0:58:27, 0:58:41]: uh inflationary period, you're gonna see that cost go up. So we s if we lock in at this cost, it might be in our best interest versus trying to get it to see what what it'll be again next year. And if it goes up, then we're having to change the budget versus [0:58:42, 0:58:46]: Versus us having a static cost over the next two years and then hopefully by twenty twenty three. [0:58:47, 0:58:48]: Twenty twenty four. [0:58:48, 0:59:00]: You know, we're in a better economic situation and and the prices will go down. And obviously, hopefully then we get a reduce in price or the price stays the same. But with the way things are going, with costs going up, with materials and so forth and so on. [0:59:00, 0:59:08]: It might be in our best interest to lock at the price that we are in s in light of the fact that Desh has just said that we haven't had any increase so far. [0:59:09, 0:59:12]: You know that there's gonna be an increase coming somewhere. [0:59:12, 0:59:16]: Um just because of headlight, everything we're doing, yeah. [0:59:16, 0:59:22]: You're thinking hypothetical and I don't have any well in front of me. [0:59:22, 0:59:30]: What when you say financials, um, what do you mean like how much the rugs cost versus how much each of the uniform costs, that type of breakdown? [0:59:31, 0:59:33]: Based on two year [0:59:33, 0:59:38]: Three year, four year, five year, as this proposal suggests. [0:59:38, 0:59:41]: I can't see it, I can't compare. [0:59:44, 0:59:46]: See any breakdowns for that? [0:59:48, 0:59:49]: Unless I'm overlooking it. [0:59:50, 0:59:51]: Mr. Wigan. [0:59:52, 0:59:53]: Are you able to? [0:59:54, 0:59:55]: Next boy. [0:59:59, 1:00:05]: No no I can't I I I need to um I don't have those documents in front of me, but um [1:00:05, 1:00:06]: Yeah. [1:00:07, 1:00:10]: I I think what what what um Desha was was trying to do [1:00:11, 1:00:12]: Was uh with the two year [1:00:13, 1:00:15]: Is it's like what Fred says, trying to lock in. [1:00:16, 1:00:18]: And get those prices. I think um [1:00:19, 1:00:22]: And this is right. We have it the the uniform cost is not [1:00:22, 1:00:25]: Gone up in the past two years and [1:00:25, 1:00:29]: If we can keep it at thirty thousand the way that he's been spending. [1:00:30, 1:00:37]: Because each of each of the um the accounts for the next for the past two years has been basically 30,000 each year. [1:00:37, 1:00:39]: And that's including the rugs and everything. [1:00:43, 1:00:50]: But if we would need to uh take that and break it down, I think that'd be part of uh what we need to get back to you with. [1:00:51, 1:00:53]: We can break it down and put the cost next to them. [1:00:57, 1:00:59]: All right, uh Mr. Blount, do you have some additional questions? [1:01:00, 1:01:15]: Um for me, I just I think what was been stated here even by our city manager that this is a price that we pay annually and to lock that price in for two more years would be advantageous for us as a city, I believe. So [1:01:15, 1:01:25]: I think my my motions would stand that we would um stick with this for the as it is written for the two years or pertain to the contract now. So that's my motion. [1:01:25, 1:01:28]: Sir. Uh yeah, go ahead, Mr. Alzheimer. [1:01:28, 1:01:35]: Yeah, this is what I want clarification on. It sounds very reasonable in terms of uh locking in the price and everything. [1:01:35, 1:01:40]: But what I'm looking at is I want the city manager to understand what the directive is, Mr. Gardner. [1:01:42, 1:02:02]: Is that the directive would be to uh have it and to review it uh with the newest, latest uh city uh logo and marketing material. As well as I certainly myself, I would like to see them wear the same type, some of the shirts that we wear, especially in the summertime, like the dry fit shirts. [1:02:02, 1:02:13]: uh instead of what I've been seeing them wear in the past. So if it's good enough for us, it's certainly good enough for them working out in the elements, that type of thing. So it's a nicer uh overall appearance. [1:02:13, 1:02:25]: But but but I also want you to understand too that you know dry fit when you're working in the rugged conditions, you might not work. And so the reason why you might see the hard cotton versus the dry fit is [1:02:25, 1:02:25]: You know. [1:02:26, 1:02:36]: the issue of of of um longevity in on those shirts. Um that's why the material might be a little bit more tougher because they're out in the elements every day. [1:02:36, 1:02:56]: And they're wearing these uniforms back to back to back and getting them clean and come back. So you you don't want to, you know, for us, we wear it one time occasion. We don't really well, I'll speak for myself because I when the summer comes, I'm in a polo shirt. So we'll definitely look at that um in light of you know where these guys are working and how that how you know how the material would hold up. [1:02:56, 1:03:09]: That's a conversation Des just can have with the vendor to make sure that we get the best aerated type shirts, you know, and the ones that are rugged as well to the hold up with these guys' working conditions. Okay, we'll leave that up to you. And then we'll leave it. Thank you, sir. [1:03:10, 1:03:11]: Thank you. [1:03:11, 1:03:19]: All right, so motion's been made, been seconded. If there's no more other no other comments, I'd like to ask for the approval of this motion. All in favor, please indicate. [1:03:20, 1:03:25]: Okay. Um okay and Miss Barber, your vote your vote. [1:03:25, 1:03:30]: Well abstain. I for the record I don't have enough information. [1:03:31, 1:03:33]: Okay, four zero one motion pass. [1:03:33, 1:03:50]: Okay. Council could thank you, Mr. Aaron. Uh Council consideration to amend the state office of planning a budget OPM officials for the ARPA funding to Frederick Gardner as designee and Kelly Russell, administrative point of contact, presented by Mr. Gardner himself. Sir, please. [1:03:52, 1:03:53]: Already um [1:03:53, 1:04:13]: Uh May and Council, in keeping with with what we see from and the requirements under the federal guidelines for our ARPA funds, um moving forward, um, we'd love to have the the city managers, the signature and and obviously the backup is our grant administrator who will be working on a typical day-to-day basis with any grant all. [1:04:14, 1:04:15]: Um [1:04:15, 1:04:17]: And reviewing all those grants applications. So [1:04:17, 1:04:22]: Um very easy lift. Um, we're asking to make sure that uh we're the signatures moving forward. [1:04:24, 1:04:24]: Oh bad. [1:04:25, 1:04:26]: All right. Any questions, Council? [1:04:27, 1:04:29]: M Mr Mayor Potem, go ahead, please. [1:04:32, 1:04:33]: Let me get off. [1:04:38, 1:04:39]: It's still muted, sir. [1:04:40, 1:04:40]: Still muted. [1:04:43, 1:04:52]: Okay. Um not necessarily a question. I know uh uh Mrs. Russell is here. I know uh I heard [1:04:53, 1:04:56]: that she was high I I just wanted to hear her voice. [1:04:59, 1:05:01]: I just want her to say something. Yeah. [1:05:02, 1:05:03]: Hi mere pro temp [1:05:04, 1:05:08]: Good evening, Mayor Honorable Mayor Ann City County Council. [1:05:11, 1:05:11]: It ain't [1:05:12, 1:05:32]: I guess you want you to expound on something there, Ms. Russell. Well, well, let me just say this, you know, we're excited about the opportunities uh for grant opportunities. And I just wanted to sort of I'm looking for some enthusiasm, you know, to you know, so I I just wanted to sort of you to speak that's I'm being a little facetious, but uh [1:05:32, 1:05:33]: Um [1:05:33, 1:05:36]: Looking for a little enthusiasm as far as uh [1:05:37, 1:05:46]: you know, uh going forward. That's all. Oh yes, absolutely. Um, as I've mentioned in the last council meeting, I'm very excited to be on board. [1:05:47, 1:05:55]: What I've been trying to focus on is um developing our foundation to accept grants and manage grants in compliance with federal regulations. [1:05:55, 1:06:01]: And so part of that is what you have before you today, just making sure that we have all of our ducks in a row. [1:06:01, 1:06:05]: Um as we move forward so that the pertinent personnel can receive the [1:06:05, 1:06:12]: notifications and communications from the state as well as the federal government and we can be responsive in a timely fashion. [1:06:12, 1:06:13]: So [1:06:13, 1:06:18]: Yeah, I have a a slew of things before me to work on, trying to prioritize and [1:06:18, 1:06:19]: Um [1:06:19, 1:06:23]: give the best impact, you know, immediately, but strategically. [1:06:24, 1:06:28]: Yeah. Well we we know you spoke at at the last meeting, but you know, um [1:06:29, 1:06:49]: We just i i just want to be real proactive. I want you to come to us and say, hey council, hey, I got this going. Next month, council, hey, I got this going. So I'm just saying we're excited about the opportunities. And so and I'm I'm just looking forward for you to be constantly uh giving us all that good information. [1:06:49, 1:06:55]: and uh turning over all of those rocks, finding all of those funding. So that's it pretty much. [1:06:55, 1:06:57]: Trails, trails, trails. [1:06:57, 1:06:58]: Thank you. [1:06:58, 1:07:01]: Okay. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [1:07:01, 1:07:10]: Mayor, I'd like for us to go ahead and uh we have an item on on hand here. I'd like for us to go ahead and approve the amendment of the state planning and budget. Um [1:07:11, 1:07:15]: For the officials of opera funding and uh having Miss Um Russell as a point of contact. [1:07:16, 1:07:18]: Okay, is there a second to the motion? [1:07:19, 1:07:29]: My second. Ms. Kant seconds that. Okay. Any further discussion? And if not, all in favor of motion, please indicate. Okay. Unanimous decision. Fantastic. Thank you. [1:07:32, 1:07:50]: Council consideration to approve request for proposal, RFP number 201508-02, Sanitation Collection Services, Contract Renewal, Waste Industries, Atlanta LLC, GFL Environmental, presented by Mr. Aaron and Miss Miller. Is Ms. Miller online? [1:07:52, 1:08:11]: I guess uh she's not, I guess uh she's not. She's not there. Okay, so that's gonna be Mr. Aaron. I would imagine you, Mr. Wiggins, would be assisting this process. Go ahead, gentlemen, please. Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. We're coming before you tonight to renew the contract with uh GFL for the residential garbage collection for the city of Stockbridge. [1:08:14, 1:08:15]: All right, any further? [1:08:15, 1:08:19]: It anything else, sir? That's that's it? Okay, Mayor Pro Tem, you got a question, sir? [1:08:20, 1:08:20]: Well [1:08:22, 1:08:27]: This service to the city and to the community. [1:08:27, 1:08:30]: You know, I get a lot of calls. [1:08:30, 1:08:35]: And I'm I'm just a little concerned. I'm reading here and I'm looking at [1:08:35, 1:08:36]: Um [1:08:36, 1:08:40]: I I guess a a five year an automatic five year contract. [1:08:42, 1:08:45]: And I'm I'm trying to find my question. [1:08:45, 1:08:49]: I'm a little I'm a you know, I know um [1:08:50, 1:08:52]: Some of the service is great. [1:08:52, 1:08:58]: Uh but I get so much feedback and you know we talked before about the commercial aspect of it. [1:08:59, 1:09:04]: And I know, you know, we're talking about improving, we're talking about growing. [1:09:05, 1:09:10]: And I'm just a little concerned. I I just want to make sure that we are proactively [1:09:11, 1:09:13]: Improven [1:09:13, 1:09:18]: um this particular service that we provide to the community. [1:09:18, 1:09:28]: I I I get a lot of um grumblings and I just found out recently and that, you know, citizen didn't understand that um carpet [1:09:29, 1:09:33]: Is not uh an item that they actually pick up. [1:09:33, 1:09:37]: So, you know, it's just a lot of disinformation. [1:09:38, 1:09:40]: Uh when it comes to the um [1:09:41, 1:09:45]: uh the the cutting of the tree limbs [1:09:45, 1:09:55]: And I I don't know how we can fix it. I know when I spoke to Mrs. Isaac a number of times, he shared this information all the time. And I don't know exactly um [1:09:56, 1:09:58]: What we can do, Mr. Aaron. [1:09:58, 1:10:03]: uh to try to fix some of that. You know, I'm okay with extending this, but I just think we have to [1:10:04, 1:10:17]: look at how we can improve. I think we got to have some conversations to see how we can uh improve or tweak some of the things that we're doing because you know this service is so vital. [1:10:18, 1:10:25]: uh to the communities and i don't want to take it too light i want us just to come in and say okay we're gonna you know do another contract without [1:10:25, 1:10:33]: Looking at the possibilities of how we can improve the services and having this conversation with GFL to make sure that. [1:10:33, 1:10:35]: Um we're sort of [1:10:35, 1:10:38]: Going forward, you know, to try to improve. [1:10:39, 1:10:42]: Uh and all of that and I alluded to [1:10:42, 1:10:45]: um you know the the the commercial end of it so [1:10:45, 1:10:46]: Uh [1:10:47, 1:10:50]: Mr. Aaron, does that is that anything you just want to say on that end? [1:10:51, 1:11:11]: Uh yes, I've had that conversation with with Ms. Miller about the commercial and and it involves a lot more detail than just saying we're going to get the commercial because there's uh concerns of where you're gonna take it. Would you take it to the transfer station? You probably get a different rate versus taking it directly to the landfill. And in reference to [1:11:11, 1:11:31]: Carpet and yard waste, those things are pretty much industry-wide from city to city. Reason why they don't take carpet because carpet can't go into regular landfill. It has to go into construction and demolition landfill. And also carpet is it's a big issue for equipment to get caught up in the in the tractors and [1:11:31, 1:11:41]: things like that. So that's why they don't take carpet because it has to go to that construction and demolition landfill because the state will not allow them to put it in a regular [1:11:41, 1:11:43]: Санітарі муніципол [1:11:43, 1:11:56]: landfill. And as far as the tree branches and limbs, the dimensions they're cut into, that's pretty much industry standard throughout the United States. It's not some arbitrary number they came up with, but that's pretty much [1:11:57, 1:12:02]: everywhere you go. And we understand some of the issues we've had with GFL. And one of the things we did [1:12:03, 1:12:08]: get implemented where the residents can go online and schedule buck and yard waste pickup. [1:12:08, 1:12:28]: And I just think right now, during the times I I live in Macon and we've switched providers. We had an issue with our provider not being picking up services and things like that. We're into our fourth, third month with the new provider and we still haven't hiccups. The old provider hasn't come and picked up their cart. So now they're asking people. [1:12:28, 1:12:39]: you bring your carts in and turn them in. So it's been a big headache for us. We realize there's been some hiccups with COVID related and also with some other issues, but I think we're working through those. [1:12:39, 1:12:59]: And if commercial is an item that the city wants to pursue, then we can pursue that as well. If that means issuing out a new RFP, we'll do that as well. But I think we need to do our due diligence to see what uh providing commercial services to our customers is gonna entail, because some people might get upset because now you only got one. [1:12:59, 1:13:05]: one provider, so I can't shop for the best rate. I'm locked into whatever that provider offers. So [1:13:06, 1:13:26]: Staff is ready to do whatever city is requiring us to do. If they want to pursue commercial, then we'll address that issue as well. Well, let me let me just piggyback off of something you said. And I know Mr. Isaac has attempted to inform citizens that they do have to call in for buck to be picked up. [1:13:26, 1:13:26]: Yeah. [1:13:26, 1:13:39]: Everyone, I guess when it comes to going online, that may be a problem. And from what I see, now I don't see all neighborhood, but I see stuff just piling up on the street. [1:13:39, 1:13:42]: And some households just assume [1:13:42, 1:13:45]: that they're going to just come by and pick it up. [1:13:45, 1:13:47]: How can we improve? [1:13:48, 1:13:49]: Uh [1:13:49, 1:13:51]: That process of [1:13:51, 1:13:53]: Uh notifying [1:13:54, 1:14:05]: that you know uh uh uh a homeowner has uh uh buck to be picked up how can we approve point of order mayor what what what what's what's wrong what's the point of order [1:14:05, 1:14:11]: The the the point of art is we're not talking about the process of GFAL. That's not what's on the agenda today. [1:14:12, 1:14:16]: Tonight is we're gonna renew their contract that we already have current. [1:14:16, 1:14:23]: This is not the the procedures that GFL goes through is not on the agenda, how we're going to modify. [1:14:24, 1:14:27]: their services is aren't we going to continue their services? [1:14:28, 1:14:48]: Mr. Mayor, if we want to add a discussion, hold on. We want to add a discussion on modification of services. That's a totally different conversation. Okay. I appreciate that. Are we going to continue the services or not? That's what's on the agenda. I appreciate that. Mr. Mayor. Mayor Protell. Go ahead, Mayor Protell. I heard you uh council. [1:14:47, 1:14:52]: Mira Proten, go ahead, please. How can you approve [1:14:52, 1:14:53]: Of a contract. [1:14:54, 1:14:59]: That's about service without discussing service. [1:15:00, 1:15:03]: I I don't get that. So are we talking about service? [1:15:05, 1:15:08]: Go ahead, sir. Go ahead with the contract that provides service to the community. [1:15:10, 1:15:21]: Isn't that what we're talking about? Yeah, yeah, sir. Go ahead. What's your uh conversation, please? So so I I just want us all to speak to that. Um, and and there's a concern. See this whole [1:15:21, 1:15:27]: business about point of order this and that i'm about making sure that the citizens [1:15:27, 1:15:34]: Get the services that they need. So when these items come on the agenda and we're talking about service. [1:15:35, 1:15:36]: Approving a contract. [1:15:37, 1:15:39]: Да провай сервіс. [1:15:40, 1:15:44]: to the community, we have to do our due diligence. [1:15:44, 1:15:50]: To make sure before we get into just giving someone a contract. [1:15:50, 1:15:53]: So the service is up to par. [1:15:55, 1:15:56]: That's the point I'm trying to make. [1:15:58, 1:16:00]: Anything anything else, sir? [1:16:02, 1:16:02]: Okay. [1:16:02, 1:16:05]: Um Mr. Gardner, please go ahead. [1:16:05, 1:16:18]: Yes. Uh Mayor Pro Cham, um you're exactly right. One one of the things we can do, um, part of this process with GFL is how do we provide for educational opportunities for residents to know what [1:16:19, 1:16:33]: you know, what the services are, how how do those services break down? That's an educational platform that I think we need to look at to discuss. And, you know, not just everybody on the on the on the internet, because we know that all residents aren't on the internet. [1:16:34, 1:16:41]: But being able to provide um flyers, pamphlets, um, door knockers, or even um [1:16:41, 1:16:44]: Uh the magnets that we you know used to put on your [1:16:44, 1:16:46]: on on your on your refrigerator. [1:16:47, 1:17:07]: Um, and then you know, especially when we have when you guys are having town hall meetings, you know, add add something like that to the agenda where we can start talking to citizens about you know what the services are, what the requirements are. Um, and it's just an educational issue. And I think we we're well within our purview to be able to to to [1:17:07, 1:17:27]: effectuate a good educational program in conjunction with with GFL to um to make that happen. So I think that's what you're saying is important. I mean we had to do the same thing um with our sanitation department and at my last jurisdiction. And a lot of that was education. And when we go out in the community, we talk exactly about those [1:17:27, 1:17:40]: and hand out hot hand out flyers and door knockers and all of that stuff for folks to be able to have are they ready when they need to understand, you know, if they have a bulk pickup, what that issue is, if they have limbs, how those limbs should be configured. [1:17:40, 1:17:50]: um and you know why we don't you know we don't pick up carpet and and what the reasons are and how do how do you treat carpet. Um so definitely that's just an educational platform. [1:17:50, 1:17:52]: And I think that's something we can do. [1:17:53, 1:17:58]: Uh m Mr. Biden, I really appreciate that. But in closing, let me just say this for for this council. [1:18:00, 1:18:02]: We're about providing [1:18:02, 1:18:05]: The best services we can. [1:18:06, 1:18:07]: Uh to our citizen. [1:18:08, 1:18:12]: Any future residents that's coming into our city. [1:18:12, 1:18:19]: We have to be about providing those services. I'm not here to sign a contract yet to say I sign a contract. [1:18:20, 1:18:38]: I'm about trying to deliver the best services that we can as a municipality. Well, Mr. Gardner, I appreciate that. And I'm going to close with that. Um, but I just hope that we can sort of get with them and how can we make this a little easier for citizens to be able to um [1:18:39, 1:18:53]: you know, uh reach GFL and you know, get these things picked up, whether there's a phone number or what have you. But I I appreciate your comment, sir. Mayor, I yield back. Thank you. No problem. Ms. Hold on, please. Ms. Barber, you had your hand up earlier. [1:18:55, 1:18:57]: Thank you, Mayor. Um [1:18:57, 1:18:59]: Mr. Gartner, Mr. Wiggins. [1:19:00, 1:19:03]: This contract expired December 31st. [1:19:03, 1:19:04]: Twenty twenty one. [1:19:07, 1:19:08]: That's a question. [1:19:09, 1:19:13]: I'm reading the agenda request form and that's what it suggests. [1:19:16, 1:19:21]: Barber, I was informed by uh Ms. Miller that actually [1:19:22, 1:19:24]: The council and one of the city attorneys. [1:19:25, 1:19:30]: uh discuss this item and the expiration date is actually April the eleventh. [1:19:30, 1:19:33]: 2022. That was the information that was provided to me. [1:19:36, 1:19:37]: Right. [1:19:37, 1:19:41]: That might have been an attempt to try to get everything on the budget caliber. [1:19:43, 1:19:45]: But um it it is it expires in April. [1:19:50, 1:19:53]: Mr Washington, some well, I see that new attorney. [1:19:54, 1:20:01]: the city manager or finance manager. You didn't sign or staff recommendation form. So [1:20:02, 1:20:03]: I don't know what to think of it. [1:20:04, 1:20:08]: So Jeremy deals with the matters of procurement. Well go ahead, Ms. Connor. [1:20:10, 1:20:17]: I too share the same concerns as Mayor Pro Tin Thomas. I've gotten quite a few calls from residents. [1:20:17, 1:20:17]: Uh [1:20:18, 1:20:20]: Asking about the process to pick up [1:20:20, 1:20:21]: Lambs. [1:20:21, 1:20:22]: And other [1:20:23, 1:20:24]: Household. [1:20:25, 1:20:26]: Items and debris. [1:20:26, 1:20:30]: So we need to be able to express that here. Now. [1:20:30, 1:20:33]: If this contract truly is to expire. [1:20:33, 1:20:34]: In April [1:20:35, 1:20:37]: This has been a five year contract. [1:20:38, 1:20:39]: For mi [1:20:40, 1:20:41]: I do not support. [1:20:41, 1:20:45]: extending long-term contracts like this. [1:20:46, 1:20:49]: We would be extending it for another five years. [1:20:49, 1:20:50]: That means [1:20:51, 1:20:52]: This particular company [1:20:52, 1:20:54]: Will have a contract. [1:20:54, 1:20:56]: For ten years. [1:20:56, 1:20:57]: I do not agree with. [1:20:58, 1:20:59]: Extending that. [1:21:00, 1:21:00]: Um [1:21:01, 1:21:03]: But I still would like to know. [1:21:03, 1:21:06]: When does this contract truly expire? [1:21:06, 1:21:08]: I think we've discussed this particular contract. [1:21:09, 1:21:10]: At least. [1:21:10, 1:21:11]: Twice. [1:21:11, 1:21:16]: um that I'm aware of and I wanna know what the actual expiration date of it is. [1:21:17, 1:21:22]: And if in fact this contract was executed in twenty sixteen. [1:21:22, 1:21:25]: It expires April of this year. [1:21:27, 1:21:29]: That's what, six years? [1:21:30, 1:21:31]: I don't support extending it. [1:21:32, 1:21:34]: However, I know that it is services. [1:21:34, 1:21:35]: that we do need. [1:21:35, 1:21:39]: But I really want staff to um consider. [1:21:40, 1:21:43]: prior to these contracts nearing the expiration. [1:21:44, 1:21:46]: To consider [1:21:46, 1:21:48]: Perhaps rebidding. [1:21:48, 1:21:52]: So that we can compare cost and services. [1:21:52, 1:21:53]: But to just [1:21:54, 1:21:58]: Bring it and drop it in my lap just as it's expiring. You give me no choice. [1:21:58, 1:22:01]: Well, I have a choice and I'm gonna abstain. [1:22:02, 1:22:12]: Okay, Mr. Washington, uh you were called on earlier. I don't know know if you got a chance to finish your comment in reference to the inquiry about whether or not you had an opportunity to review this or not. [1:22:12, 1:22:19]: Yeah, this is the one that we've been going back and forth on that had been brought a couple of times. And Jeremy had Jeremy had reviewed it. [1:22:19, 1:22:26]: And the date the dates were wrong on it, but he's not available to come to the meeting. But this was a contract that had come before council before. [1:22:27, 1:22:31]: I think it was toward the end of the year and that's what I was trying to reach out to him about. [1:22:31, 1:22:33]: about this exact contract. [1:22:34, 1:22:44]: Okay. All right. Uh hopefully he'll get a chance to respond to you and maybe you can update us. Uh stand by Mr. Blount. Mr. Gardner, you had your hand up, sir. Go ahead, please. [1:22:44, 1:22:58]: Yes, and and stand by stand by go ahead, Mr. Buddha. Um council members, when when you do get complaints about the level of service or the quality of the service, you know, please let us know because we we need to share that information. [1:22:58, 1:23:18]: obviously with with with the with the contractor um and allow for us to actually keep a record and a score. That way when we get to the point of looking at renewing the service, we can say, hey, we've had X amount of complaints versus this vendor and the need for us to move forward and have some [1:23:18, 1:23:35]: something that's quantitative. Um and I and and I go back to what I was saying with my pro tem, you know. Somehow you you you muted Mr. Gardner, you muted. I don't know how that happened. There you go. Yeah um it's not showing on my side man. It's my you're good now we hear you. Oh okay. Um [1:23:35, 1:23:36]: As I was saying, you know. [1:23:37, 1:23:40]: We have to keep when you guys get complaints, let us know. [1:23:41, 1:23:55]: That way we can keep track of the complaints, the amount of complaints. So when we have to renew, we'll have those to review and make sure to be making an informed decision based on the number of data complaints we're getting. Also. [1:23:55, 1:23:56]: Um [1:23:56, 1:23:58]: I think once again, um [1:23:58, 1:24:18]: us providing educational opportunities, um, handouts and flies for our residents. So when they don't, when they do call you guys, we can immediately get that person's address and be able to to to ferret over the information to them. But once again, getting out into the community and telling folks, hey, this is what the service is and this is how the service is rendered to you. [1:24:18, 1:24:22]: Um that's an important part. Education is an important part. [1:24:22, 1:24:38]: Um and especially when we're getting if we get new residents come in, that is part of their whole billing situation with us, they get a phone, they get a a handout um that explains the service and the level of service to them. So that's something we can do and work with GFL. If GFL is who we go with. [1:24:38, 1:24:40]: Um, to make that happen. [1:24:41, 1:24:42]: What do you guys? [1:24:42, 1:24:44]: Oh go ahead. Mr. Aaron, you gonna say something, sir? [1:24:45, 1:25:05]: Uh just one thing, all new residents, new customers, they do get a mail out from public works stating what's collected, what's not collected, also their collection day if they have any questions or concerns. Because I take multiple calls daily, Ms. Norrisworthy as well, scheduling bulk and yard waste pickup. So if they can't get in touch. [1:25:04, 1:25:10]: with GFL city staff is here to take calls and put in those requests for residents as well. [1:25:11, 1:25:12]: Thank you. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [1:25:14, 1:25:17]: Yeah, let me let me clarify something really quick here. [1:25:18, 1:25:22]: I agree with uh um uh Mr. Thomas. [1:25:22, 1:25:33]: That we do need to let the citizens know we're concerned about their complaints and their their their uh complaints and their concerns when it comes to um their sanitation pickups. [1:25:34, 1:25:37]: But one of the things we have to also realize [1:25:37, 1:25:41]: On this call, on this Zoom, not one person is on here from GFL. [1:25:41, 1:25:54]: These are the times when we go behind closed doors and we sit down with our city manager and the powers to be, and we sit here and tell them the concerns of the citizens. And we come out here and tell the citizens, your concerns have been heard, and this is what we're going to do. [1:25:56, 1:25:58]: I agree with Councilwoman Barber. [1:25:58, 1:26:10]: Councilwoman Barber has continually asked for things early, has continually asked that we get contracts. We don't have another council meeting to April 14th. This contract expires. [1:26:11, 1:26:12]: uh eprent [1:26:13, 1:26:17]: So we have to make a decision tonight for the citizens for sanitation service. [1:26:18, 1:26:19]: Right now tonight. [1:26:20, 1:26:31]: And one of the things that concerns me about this whole process that we're continuing to go through and we see this paradigm of things operating a certain way, we've got to change the way we're operating. [1:26:31, 1:26:33]: There's a part of this contract that I read. [1:26:34, 1:26:42]: This contract was for five years, and Councilwoman Barber, I don't know if you know this, but it's it it's it's for renewal yearly after that. [1:26:42, 1:26:46]: If I'm wrong, Mr. Dacius, please correct me. If I'm wrong, Mr. Wiggins, please correct me. [1:26:46, 1:26:48]: So we're not renewing tonight. [1:26:49, 1:27:05]: for five years. In my understanding, this it renews after the five years when uh from the 16th, uh I think um 2016 when we first came on, they came on for five years, 2021 would have been five years, and then it renews a year yearly after that. [1:27:06, 1:27:23]: But we've got to get information early. We got to get information early because of any contract ever come to us at the last minute that we can't sit the powers to be down and discuss the issues of the citizens. That's a disservice to every council member on here, every elected official that comes through this city. [1:27:23, 1:27:38]: We should always get an opportunity to sit down with the powers to be and make a uh a a decision right here whether we're going to continue those services or remove ourselves from it. But that should be done because we can't be in order in doing that. [1:27:38, 1:27:41]: If staff is not in order in bringing us the information. [1:27:41, 1:27:45]: Once again, we have a council meeting on fair on April fourteenth. [1:27:46, 1:27:48]: Бо ви хавтиме тонай. [1:27:48, 1:27:50]: Whether we're gonna continue with this services. [1:27:51, 1:27:53]: For the citizens to have sanitation pickup. [1:27:54, 1:27:59]: And I'm not gonna sit here and vote against sanitation pickup because our back is against the wall. [1:28:00, 1:28:01]: This what we have to prove tonight. [1:28:02, 1:28:04]: All right, Miss Gan, go ahead, please. [1:28:06, 1:28:07]: Well, Councilman Black just [1:28:08, 1:28:14]: Pretty much summed up exactly some of the same thing same concerns I have. I think we all get concerns about [1:28:14, 1:28:25]: about our city manager, uh Mr. Gardner, that um it's more education. I hope that we have this [1:28:25, 1:28:44]: on our the front page of our website honestly um i think that is something that we should put continue to put in our newsletters it should always be in there the schedule of of pickup for sanitation um so that we can have constant communication um to our constituents and the [1:28:44, 1:28:47]: Although this is doesn't have to do with residential. [1:28:47, 1:28:54]: We also had discussed um contracting whoever we have for sanitation, which is currently GFL. [1:28:54, 1:28:59]: to also have one person for commercial pickup. [1:28:59, 1:29:19]: Um, this has been ongoing. It's been going on for years. Um, I think that it would resolve a lot of problems. There have been over near the Walmart shopping center at one point, there was trash everywhere. Um, they have various pickups from different sanitation departments with our commercial portion, our businesses. And I think if we had one, we were [1:29:19, 1:29:29]: supposed to give them like a a six months notice that they were gonna they everyone was to switch over to the same company sanitation department that we use. [1:29:30, 1:29:44]: Um, I think it would show consistency. I think it would be professional, and I think it's something that we need to look into to hold one individual accountable for. Um, that's just my two cents. I know that's totally different from what we're talking about on our contract. [1:29:45, 1:30:00]: I agree. I think that we should have a right to discuss with our with whoever we're renewing the contracts. I think it maybe we should have a policy where if we're renewing a contract, those people need to be on our council meetings, scheduled for that day. [1:30:00, 1:30:20]: Um, because we have questions. We want to let them know we may be renewing your contract or you know, and we know that Georgia's at will and we can terminate the contract early without penalties, maybe in some of those clauses. But what we want them to know is we want them also to know our concerns. So they should be here present so that we can ask those. [1:30:20, 1:30:27]: particular questions and also address those concerns. So I think we need to make that part of our policy and get those people here on those meeting dates. [1:30:28, 1:30:32]: That's it. Thank you for that. Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [1:30:34, 1:30:42]: Yes. So the last time this came to us in December, there were some discussions about the expiration date of this. [1:30:42, 1:30:42]: Um [1:30:43, 1:30:43]: B [1:30:44, 1:30:46]: City attorney confirmed. [1:30:46, 1:30:48]: that the expiration of this [1:30:48, 1:30:51]: was to end in December of the [1:30:51, 1:30:53]: December of twenty twenty one. [1:30:54, 1:31:00]: Looking at the very first page of the Solid Waste Collection Transportation Disposal Agreement. [1:31:00, 1:31:04]: Under term, it says this agreement shall be binding. [1:31:05, 1:31:11]: on all parties for a period of five years and eight months, beginning May first of twenty sixteen. [1:31:12, 1:31:15]: And ending december thirty first of twenty twenty one. [1:31:16, 1:31:21]: provided that consistent with the multi-year contractual provisions. [1:31:21, 1:31:27]: This contract shall be automatically renewed on January one of each year. [1:31:27, 1:31:34]: unless either party provides written notice to the other of its intentions not to renew this agreement. [1:31:34, 1:31:35]: So [1:31:35, 1:31:45]: I know that it will renew for an additional, the initial term will automatically extend for five consecutive additional one year periods. [1:31:45, 1:31:46]: But this contract. [1:31:46, 1:31:50]: ended December thirty first of twenty twenty one. [1:31:51, 1:31:54]: is just now coming to us, I guess, to ratify it. [1:31:55, 1:31:55]: I don't know. [1:31:56, 1:31:57]: But I do not like the fact. [1:31:57, 1:32:00]: that is being dropped in our lap right now. [1:32:00, 1:32:02]: With a critical service like this. [1:32:03, 1:32:04]: And we're forced to sign it. [1:32:05, 1:32:06]: Again. [1:32:06, 1:32:08]: For these services. [1:32:08, 1:32:12]: That we have um awarded contracts back in. [1:32:12, 1:32:20]: 2016, 2017, and we have not put them back out to bid. I don't agree with extending them. [1:32:20, 1:32:23]: I'd much rather see them go back out to bed, but. [1:32:24, 1:32:26]: Because we're in this situation, we don't have time. [1:32:27, 1:32:28]: to bid it out. [1:32:28, 1:32:29]: But we do. [1:32:29, 1:32:31]: We should be planning. [1:32:31, 1:32:37]: you don't mind Mr. Gardner, we should be planning to bid this back out sometime this year. [1:32:37, 1:32:38]: Before [1:32:39, 1:32:40]: The renewal. [1:32:40, 1:32:44]: if that's what the council approves. [1:32:44, 1:32:49]: so that we can compare cost and services. Um, that's all. [1:32:50, 1:32:51]: Mr. Gardner, go ahead, please. [1:32:52, 1:33:02]: I I'm wholeheartedly agree. Yes. The the there's the the initial five-year term, as you stated, Councilmember Barber, from from 16 to 21, and then it has five one year. [1:33:02, 1:33:22]: So obviously this will be the the the set the renewal for the one year. Um and it has been, this will be six years worth of information and data that we've gathered on this vendor. So yes, this is something that we can look to bid out and have have something out on the streets somewhere in the area of October. [1:33:22, 1:33:23]: Um [1:33:23, 1:33:27]: No October, November and then be able to have s you know, if they win then fine if [1:33:27, 1:33:47]: Um, we'll bring a new contract and hopefully better pricing. But to see exactly yes, what's out there? Is it a better pricing available? Um, as well as um are they provide is there another vendor that is providing an enhanced quality service to their customers, i.e., they'll do that too for us. So I agree this is something we need to look at. [1:33:47, 1:33:53]: at um and we'll be we'll be looking into it to make sure that that happens. [1:33:54, 1:33:59]: I think yes, we can try to look to see if we can get a better buying file, but um [1:33:59, 1:34:01]: Obviously after five or six years. [1:34:03, 1:34:09]: That is a lot of okay, thank you. Hold on, Ms. Washington. You are unmuted, sir. Did you find out anything from uh your cohort? [1:34:10, 1:34:11]: Um big yeah. [1:34:12, 1:34:13]: Not yet. [1:34:13, 1:34:16]: Okay. Um uh councilman Alexander, go ahead, please. [1:34:16, 1:34:19]: Yeah, so Mr. Gardner, what is the recommendation? [1:34:20, 1:34:33]: So obviously we're we're we're um we're pretty much a couple of weeks away from from the ending of the term. I would I would recommend that we extend for one more year and direct staff to put this out to bed. [1:34:33, 1:34:34]: Um [1:34:35, 1:34:38]: Pro the contract give notice that we will be bidding it back out. [1:34:38, 1:34:40]: Um, I think we have to give ninety day notice. [1:34:40, 1:34:47]: Um and that'll be later in the year that we bid this out. And if GFL comes back with the best pricing and [1:34:47, 1:34:54]: We'll look at that in refer in reference to their level of service that we've given over the over the last six years. Um, if it's another vendor, then we'll bring another vendor. [1:34:56, 1:35:07]: Okay, so the recommendation is for a one-year renewal, uh, and then to put it back out for uh, you know, to see what uh what the mark market is. [1:35:07, 1:35:08]: Dicturing. [1:35:08, 1:35:13]: uh at this point and but in the meantime I still want to make sure that we follow through [1:35:13, 1:35:22]: With the recommendations of the information going out. I like that idea, especially for seniors, of the magnet on the refrigerator. [1:35:22, 1:35:30]: where they just is there i and and folks will use it. So I certainly appreciate that. And uh [1:35:31, 1:35:34]: I will make a motion to go ahead and approve that recommendation. [1:35:34, 1:35:47]: uh by uh the city manager uh to renew for one year and then to put this out for bid with the conditions that we have the upgraded information uh in this one year renewal. [1:35:48, 1:35:48]: A second. [1:35:49, 1:35:57]: I'm Ms. Gantt second that uh Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. Well, I I just wanted to just say that for me, uh, service dictate approval. [1:35:57, 1:36:03]: Uh we we talking money, but I think in this as well, we have to talk about. [1:36:04, 1:36:11]: Uh and and Mr. Aaron and uh Mr. Gardner, we're gonna have to be able to look at some of these things to see how we can improve. [1:36:12, 1:36:23]: uh the services. So I think with with all of that, we got to pinpoint how the services can be improved. So I think that has to go along with [1:36:23, 1:36:43]: um putting it back out for bid and those that's gonna come in and bid on it. We have to sort of be able to speak to uh some of the deficiencies and some of the service. But I'm okay with, you know, um the the one year, but we have to sort of talk about and and I'm okay with you and Mr. Aaron sort of doing that. [1:36:43, 1:36:58]: But you have to know what the concerns are. We have to know what level of service are right now. We always have to improve our service. We can't live on our past laurels. We have to always be about improving things. [1:37:00, 1:37:06]: Yeah, I just stop it up. Please, Mr. Blount, let us finish his comments, please. [1:37:07, 1:37:11]: No, I'm sorry. I wouldn't talk to Mr. Thomas. Forgive me. I wouldn't talk to Mr. Thomas. Forgive me. [1:37:12, 1:37:15]: So my my my point, Mr. Gunn and Mr. Aaron. [1:37:16, 1:37:20]: Uh I'm okay with GFL. They do a pretty good job. [1:37:20, 1:37:40]: But I don't care who the contractor is, we have to always be about approval. So, Mr. Gardner, Mr. Aaron, I'm okay with the one year, but I think you all got to have that conversation to see how we can improve. And that's all I just want to get over to this council. We have to understand we have to be about improvement of services. [1:37:40, 1:37:41]: Thank you, Mayor. Number year. [1:37:42, 1:37:46]: Okay, so the motion's been made, been seconded. So all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:37:49, 1:37:50]: Okay. I [1:37:50, 1:37:53]: Okay. Okay. Miss Gar uh Miss uh Barber. [1:37:54, 1:37:59]: I'll abstain. Um 40. Okay. 401. [1:38:00, 1:38:03]: For the right sorry, did we get a vote from uh Councilman Block? [1:38:03, 1:38:06]: Yes, he's he said I. He's four four zero four zero one. [1:38:07, 1:38:08]: For the biker. [1:38:08, 1:38:13]: I'm abstaining because it looks as though this contract has already expired. [1:38:14, 1:38:16]: Secondly, I wanted to um just mention [1:38:17, 1:38:21]: This contract, our current contract, requires a ninety-day [1:38:21, 1:38:22]: Notice. [1:38:24, 1:38:24]: Before. [1:38:25, 1:38:25]: Um [1:38:26, 1:38:28]: You change to another contractor. [1:38:29, 1:38:29]: However [1:38:30, 1:38:32]: Mr. Garden, you mentioned about um [1:38:32, 1:38:34]: We're building this. [1:38:34, 1:38:39]: So I would suggest that you bring back a new contract or recommendation to award. [1:38:40, 1:38:43]: ninety days prior to December thirty first. [1:38:45, 1:38:51]: Well and I I I think I did mention Councilman Biden that we we also we have to give them the ninety day notice. [1:38:52, 1:39:03]: um of the fact that we will be terminating. Um and I will work with the city attorney to make sure that that date is December 31st versus Octo um April. [1:39:03, 1:39:08]: Um because the one year renewal should if it's a true one year renewal. [1:39:08, 1:39:13]: It should go from April eleventh, twenty twenty two to April eleventh, twenty twenty three. [1:39:13, 1:39:27]: Which means we need to give ourselves that that window 90 day to notify them. But that would also be probably the prior period of time when we start the bid process out for folks to start bidding on it. Cause obviously, as you know, put it out there for 45 days plus. [1:39:27, 1:39:35]: Then staff review. That's probably another another week or two. So we'll be in concert with them, have an event to come on board when they're done. [1:39:37, 1:39:38]: You're welcome. [1:39:39, 1:39:59]: All right, so the motion passed. And uh now what's next is uh my particular comments. What I want to say tonight is simply this that COVID-19 and pandemic is still among us. So, folks, that you can still get uh tested at uh Red Hawk um field uh located 143 Henry Parkway, Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. [1:39:59, 1:40:19]: 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. In the Department of Health, you can call their on uh Henry Parkway as well. You can call them at 470-661-0005. You can get tested there as well as you can get your vaccinations there, Pfizer or Moderma. You can walk in for that. And if you want to do that at Department of Health. [1:40:19, 1:40:28]: Health, that would be Monday through Friday, 9 a.m. to 11:30 or 1 p.m. to 2 30. Okay. And so you can go there and do that as well. [1:40:28, 1:40:48]: But here recently, and actually council and staff and all the directors just recently received a message from our city manager in reference to per CD CDC guidelines that Henry County itself is experiencing low, low rates here, low rates hospitalization, low rates in reference to the people being affected by the pandemic. [1:40:48, 1:41:08]: So the CT, CDC is uh recommending in a sense that uh that uh that actually there's no requirement now for indoor mask wearing at indoor facilities. You you you can do it if you'd like to do it, but you don't have to. It's not mandatory. I think by this last message that the uh city manager said [1:41:08, 1:41:28]: Sent out to the staff and council in reference to city hall and our city buildings. The city staff doesn't necessarily have to wear a mask unless you really want to. And citizens that are coming into to do business with us don't necessarily have to wear a mask either, unless you honestly want to at this point. So that's uh that's a good sign, I would say, to you. And hopefully [1:41:28, 1:41:44]: We'll continue to move on with this process as the numbers continue to get lower and we beat this pandemic. Also, what's happening on Friday, which is April, April 1st, April Fool's Day, but we will have our first concert of 2022 season. [1:41:44, 1:42:01]: John Parde, a country star, will be in concert along with a couple other of his uh cohorts there. And you can still get tickets, folks, if you go to uh stopbridgeamp.com, find out what's available, and uh come on out and listen to some country music this this Friday evening. [1:42:01, 1:42:06]: Now also if you go to Stockbridge AMP dot com, you'll see the the actual um [1:42:06, 1:42:17]: actual tickets or the uh uh the actual concerts that we have tickets for on sale now for several different concerts as well. So take a look at that and and and take your pick of what you want to come and see for this concert season. [1:42:18, 1:42:19]: Um now [1:42:19, 1:42:39]: And what what uh what I understand that we would do also for the concert, uh the we're not going to ask anybody for a vaccination card or a booster card. It's not going to be a requirement at this time to ask you for any type of um of uh any type of uh COVID test, negative test within the last 48 hours. Uh you can [1:42:39, 1:42:42]: still wear a mask if you come to conference if you'd like to do that. [1:42:42, 1:42:46]: It's not mandatory at this time for this outdoor uh uh venue. [1:42:46, 1:42:57]: And uh it was my understanding is that there will be medical staff on to give tests or vaccinations if people want them, is my understanding. If you want them, it's not a requirement, but if you want them. [1:42:57, 1:42:58]: You can do that. [1:42:59, 1:43:03]: this aspect. So look forward to a wonderful uh concert s uh uh season. [1:43:04, 1:43:08]: Which we kick up April first and I think the last concert would be sometime in uh late October. [1:43:08, 1:43:11]: So it's fantastic in that aspect as well. [1:43:11, 1:43:14]: Earlier uh this evening and when we opened up [1:43:14, 1:43:34]: Mayor Potem gave the prayer and he and he talked about, indicated that myself, along with him and Councilman Alexander, along with several members of staff, were at a conference earlier today. And that was what you call the actual South Metro Development Outlook Conference. It's an economic conference in rest in reference to the South Metro area. [1:43:34, 1:43:54]: Area and what kind of good things are happening in the south part of the Atlanta metro area. And this has, and we're growing and we're making some good movements here. So I want you to know that during that conference, we had a lot of interaction, a lot of networking of the staff and the council members made. And this has been going on for 20 years, along with the collaborative firm. [1:43:54, 1:44:04]: which is a the partner of that is uh Mr. Michael Hightower. And so for 20 years he's done this and done an excellent job. So it was it was great, great conference in this aspect. I will tell you that [1:44:04, 1:44:24]: I as as a representative, as the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, representing Stockbridge at the time, had an opportunity to give a highlight of this of a South Metro city, give a highlight of Stockbridge. And I want to let you know the type of topic, topics, and things that I covered. And without besides uh indicating, I'm not gonna make it very long on this aspect, but besides talking about the fact [1:44:24, 1:44:44]: That uh we're over 100 years old in corporation. Of course, we didn't celebrate like we really wanted to in 2020 due to the pandemic. But I always have to mention and educate people in reference to Stockbridge being the ancestral home of the King family. You always find people that don't even know that. So you want to educate them enough to know of our historical value and our link to the king family and the civil. [1:44:44, 1:45:04]: rights movement in this aspect as well. Without a doubt, I talked about the state of the art amphitheater and what's coming to the amphitheater. In fact that it's it's a great the first amphitheater in Henry County and one of the greatest looking facilities amphitheaters in the South Metro area. I want to emphasize that the fact that the season's going to start and invited everybody of course to check out the uh check out the uh actual uh concerts [1:45:04, 1:45:24]: Online and buy a ticket and come on down and enjoy everything in this aspect as well. Um, have some conversations. Uh I talked about last year's structure for that, and wanted to talk about the course of the um police department coming online and mentioned uh Chief Tremors uh is our police chief and the fact that him and his staff are hiring uh [1:45:24, 1:45:44]: Plenty of good qualified police officers, going to be a diverse police force, and they will implement uh uh the police force on one July, something that the city has not had in 45 years. It's a good thing that we're doing this, and also had a slide that's showing a brand new spanking-looking police vehicles and the fact that we're going to spend three million dollars to renovate the [1:45:44, 1:46:04]: The old police station, stated art police station in this aspect, something that we totally differ definitely need. Talked talked briefly about um Bridget Adjodico and about last Friday, week go last week go Friday, I guess it is now, um, about our groundbreaking with our general at uh at Jodico, uh the$50 million. [1:46:04, 1:46:17]: Um these luxury apartment that Sterling Group is going to do with those luxury apartments and the fact that we have retail on the first floor of 306 of those apartments, one and two three bedroom apartments. And also the fact that that's just the beginning. [1:46:18, 1:46:38]: of the of the actual additional groundbreakings that we'll have at Bridge of Jodico, because we're going to eventually have hotels, restaurants, all types of eateries, homes, condos, town homes, and homes that have attached and detached garages, as well as a path, a network of a path where a pathway network there for people to commute [1:46:38, 1:46:45]: to walk on and and move around the facility as is is as well. And um I continued on with um [1:46:46, 1:47:06]: In reference to the Cultural Arts Center, the fact that we have that at the far west side of the uh of our downtown area, and the fact that that's planning to be a theater, a ballroom, and other types of cultural type events, art shows and things of this nature that we want to bring to this. And the fact that the the actual um groundbreaking probably won't happen for roughly a year now, late late quarter. [1:47:06, 1:47:19]: quarter of this year or first quarter of of next year is what's intended for that to happen. And actually I didn't get a chance to spend on everything like I wanted to because I I had a short period of time. So I was trying to get a lot in a whole a big period of time there. [1:47:19, 1:47:39]: And I mentioned about T-SPLOST. Thanks, you citizens, for voting for T Splots in November passing. That means the collections, what I've been told, the collection for T-SPLOST will start on April 1st, five years. Over a five-year period, the city should get an estimated of$30 million. And what we're going to do, that$30 million, is going to we're going to look at curb, gutter, widening street. [1:47:39, 1:47:59]: Streets, repaving streets and putting in some of the cross markings, crossing, crossings in actual communities, especially the underserved communities that haven't had this before. Look at the path, connecting communities with pathways, pathways there itself, connecting the communities to the downtown area so you can walk and move about. [1:47:59, 1:48:19]: And also connected or have a pathway connected to Panoma Mountain and eventually to uh the Silva Comet Trail. So all this is what's planned in that T Sploss and the Council is going to have to prioritize the funding and things we want to do with that$30 million on the next five years. Also mentioned about expanding the bridge that goes across the [1:48:19, 1:48:37]: the uh rebel track downtown ml king senior bridge we want to put a pedestrian walkway on that bridge to expand it so people can walk from east to west side safely and and be safe with that process as they move about from the from the amphitheater to our downtown areas as we look to revitalize our downtown areas well. [1:48:38, 1:48:58]: I also talked about the STEM. The Henry County Board of Education approved to put the STEM school right there at the old Henry site, old Stockbridge High School site, two blocks from down from our city hall, right in our downtown area. That's a great thing, even though it's it it helps revitalize our downtown area to have the skin sta. [1:48:58, 1:49:07]: STEM school right there. So that was also mentioned to them. And actually on the 14th of April, uh four o'clock, uh, council and its citizens, there will be a special event to unveiling [1:49:08, 1:49:12]: of this particular project that they're that they're going to have and I'm I would imagine the project will [1:49:12, 1:49:32]: Actually open up, uh officially open up probably in a good year and a half from now after you have to clear out the land and build build that STEM school. So it'll probably a good year and I probably won't uh have a grand opening in probably uh into 24, probably 2024. But they'll be able to tighten that up at the activity on April 14th. And the last thing I covered dealt with the conceptual plan in a downtown. [1:49:32, 1:49:45]: area as we want to revitalize it and and the shops and and things that we want to do there in this aspect as well. And um so I was about to highlight so they're trying to go through that pretty somewhat quickly uh in this aspect, but I'll tell you what. [1:49:46, 1:50:06]: What I heard from individuals that approached me after this particular briefing, they didn't realize a lot of things are going on at Stockbridge. And what they know where they they got an idea that we're moving forward. They also understand that and and say that that's great things that you all doing. And that's thank that's good to the council and us moving everything forward. That's good for the citizens. And we have a listen here for you citizens. [1:50:06, 1:50:26]: on what you want and the staff doing a heavy lifting as we continue to move everything forward. So we have a bright future. We're going to dub, you know, brush off this this rough diamond and make it shine. And we'll continue to shine. And so on that note um I'll end my particular comments and I'll start reading uh the actual um events here that we have going on. Now I'm [1:50:26, 1:50:43]: I'm gonna mention these events and these things are all gonna basically mention about the primarily about Zoom meetings, but they may very well change now that things are starting to open up a little bit. So that's up to the actual committee or the board whether or not they wanna have something in person, but I'll but most of them say that they're gonna be virtual and I'll read that this time. [1:50:43, 1:50:52]: Main Street Advisory Board meeting, second Friday of each month, nine o'clock by way of Zoom. And uh said the revised date for this is going to be April 15th. [1:50:52, 1:50:58]: City Council meeting the second Monday of each month. And that's by way of Zune on April eleventh. Okay. [1:51:00, 1:51:13]: April 11th. All right. So we'll see whether or not we have that by Zoom or in person. We'll find we'll have to discuss that to see manager council with how you want to handle that. New council meeting, 5 30, second Wednesday of each month in the Levi meeting room. [1:51:13, 1:51:15]: City Hall April thirteenth. [1:51:15, 1:51:29]: The Downtown Development Authority meeting is uh six o'clock by way of Zoom, third Tuesday of each month, and uh is April 19th. The U Council of Irish committee meeting is the third Tuesday of each month. The Patrick Henry meeting room, and that's April 19th. [1:51:30, 1:51:36]: Uh the planning commission meeting is a four Thursday at 630 by way of Zoom, which is April 28th. [1:51:38, 1:51:42]: see here and our let's see one second here [1:51:44, 1:51:47]: And then I have here the uh of course the uh [1:51:48, 1:51:49]: Uh [1:51:49, 1:52:09]: I have here a note in reference to uh a continuous salute to veterans, uh, four pictures of veterans, including the name, branch, and rank of years of service to Mayor Pro Tem Thomas, as we want to present and keep keep those veterans and close to us in this aspect and give them the set of due respect and honor. And uh [1:52:09, 1:52:17]: And you can communicate with uh Ms. Pearson and it's a Z Pearson at C Stockbridge dash G A dot Gov [1:52:17, 1:52:27]: And then our once I already mentioned about our first concert of the season is Friday, April 1st, uh this Friday, John Parday, which is a country singer, and the show begins at eight. [1:52:27, 1:52:31]: And it's COVID 19, once again, restrictions have been lifted. [1:52:31, 1:52:36]: And I have here Councilman Alexander is hosting a quarterly town hall meeting April fourteenth at seven PM. [1:52:37, 1:52:57]: And right. I'm sorry, that's been postponed. Postponed. Okay. Thank you very much, sir. That's been postponed. And then there's a there's a city sponsored job fair uh Thursday, April 21st, uh at uh 10 a.m. to 1 p.m. in the Amplitude Theater parking lot, with the city is as having it was with Goodwill with the city, along with a mega sci-fi uh uh fraternity. [1:52:57, 1:53:08]: And Delta Sigma Theta sorority. And they're also going to be ex offenders, part of the ex offender job fair as well, and try to get folks back into the into the job market. And um [1:53:09, 1:53:20]: And then of course I had meet the mayor and voice your concerns and uh concerns and issues and questions you may have. That'll be Monday, April 25th at 10 a.m. to noon. And we're going to do that in person. [1:53:20, 1:53:36]: And uh so you have to schedule an appointment with Zenovia Pearson at 770-389-7900, extension 248. And on that note, that's all the uh the announcements I have. And I'm it's only my assumption there is no executive session for this evening. [1:53:36, 1:53:39]: Okay, so on that note, Council, I need a motion to end our meeting. [1:53:40, 1:53:40]: So move. [1:53:41, 1:53:46]: Ms. Brant's uh the second by Alexander and Gantt put that most on favor, please indicate. [1:53:47, 1:53:50]: All right. And it looks like you now see season. Goodbye, everybody. [1:53:50, 1:53:53]: Uh and have a good evening. God bless you all. [1:53:53, 1:53:55]: Good night. All right. Have a good evening. Good night.

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[0:01:05, 0:01:06]: Um [0:01:07, 0:01:11]: You hear uh uh roll call, call order or um [0:01:13, 0:01:15]: You're called to order. [0:01:15, 0:01:16]: Well, six thirty three. [0:01:18, 0:01:19]: Invocation. [0:01:24, 0:01:31]: Uh Mr. Dumas, do an invocation pause? Sure, I will. Let us bow our heads, please. [0:01:33, 0:01:45]: God, we come before you tonight with bowed heads and normal hearts. God, we humble ourselves before you at this time to conduct the business of the citizens of the city of Stockbridge. [0:01:46, 0:01:56]: We ask God that you will guide our hearts and inspire our thoughts that we will do what is right and that's proper in your sight. [0:01:56, 0:02:00]: Yes, we pray in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. [0:02:01, 0:02:01]: Yeah. [0:02:02, 0:02:04]: Well, let's do the Pledge of Allegiance. Ready? [0:02:06, 0:02:22]: Uh-huh. Well ready for two flags. Two flags of America. Two republic and two. One nation under God. Undergard, indivisible. Liquidity, justice, is brought. [0:02:23, 0:02:25]: Ms. Logan, a roll call? [0:02:25, 0:02:26]: Yes. [0:02:26, 0:02:27]: Ask yeah Adola. [0:02:27, 0:02:28]: Present. [0:02:29, 0:02:30]: Kathleen Nelson. [0:02:32, 0:02:32]: Is it? [0:02:34, 0:02:34]: Um [0:02:35, 0:02:35]: Okay. [0:02:36, 0:02:37]: Uh, it's Stanley Dunis. [0:02:37, 0:02:38]: Present. [0:02:38, 0:02:39]: Harold Thibodeau? [0:02:41, 0:02:42]: David Planton. [0:02:43, 0:02:43]: Present. [0:02:44, 0:02:45]: Rodney Horns. [0:02:45, 0:02:46]: Present. [0:02:46, 0:02:48]: So chairman, we have quorum. [0:02:49, 0:02:50]: Thank you. [0:02:51, 0:02:52]: Excuse me. [0:02:53, 0:02:56]: I have a motion to adopt the agenda for the day. [0:02:59, 0:03:02]: I make a motion to adopt today's agenda. [0:03:03, 0:03:04]: I will second it. [0:03:04, 0:03:06]: This is David Planthron. [0:03:07, 0:03:08]: Okay, it's been moved uh [0:03:09, 0:03:12]: Ms. Nelson and then second by Mr. Planchon. [0:03:12, 0:03:15]: All those in favor, let it be known by the sign of aye. [0:03:15, 0:03:19]: Hi thu look away [0:03:19, 0:03:24]: Hearing none, uh the agenda for today is adopted. [0:03:25, 0:03:28]: Wanna review the uh minutes from January twentieth. [0:03:30, 0:03:31]: And uh [0:03:37, 0:03:38]: Note any changes. [0:03:40, 0:03:42]: Or minutes. [0:04:02, 0:04:05]: Chairman, is there a motion on the floor for the minutes? [0:04:07, 0:04:12]: I make a motion to approve the minutes from the January twentieth meeting. [0:04:13, 0:04:14]: Yeah. [0:04:15, 0:04:16]: We'll second that, Mr. Horns. [0:04:17, 0:04:18]: Yes. [0:04:18, 0:04:19]: All right. [0:04:20, 0:04:24]: It's been moved the second all over the table that it's be known by the sign of I. [0:04:25, 0:04:33]: Aye. Those opposed, as have it. The uh January 20th minutes are approved and adopted. [0:04:35, 0:04:38]: Um yeah one day. [0:04:44, 0:04:49]: So Chairman, the next item would be an introduction of new staff. [0:04:49, 0:04:51]: I want it to [0:04:51, 0:05:11]: I think as you know, since I've been director here, I've been making a point to try and build and bolster our team so that we are equipped with the uh knowledge and experience in order to welcome new business into the city and to handle all the operations that are needed to. [0:05:11, 0:05:31]: Have good customer service and quality responses to our customers. So I wanted to introduce our chief planner, Ryan Anderson, who started with us this week. I'll just briefly say that he comes with quite a bit of experience in land use and zoning. [0:05:31, 0:05:51]: He's worked in Douglasville, City of South Fulton, and a few, just to name a few. And it's coincidentally has actually worked previously with some of the staff members that are already in community development at some point or another throughout his career. So I wanted to give him the opportunity to say. [0:05:51, 0:05:59]: A few things about himself and welcome him from the Planning Commission and the Community Development Department. [0:06:00, 0:06:03]: Good evening. Uh my name is Ryan Emerson. Uh [0:06:05, 0:06:08]: Get some push feedback while I'm turning it down. [0:06:08, 0:06:28]: Uh my name is Brian Anderson. Uh I'm from originally from Jackson, Mississippi. Um I've been in the Atlanta area for uh 22 years now. Um I'm excited to be working for the city of Stockbridge and I'm looking forward to meeting you guys in person one day. And um I think I can be a big assistance, be of a bigger [0:06:28, 0:06:41]: assistance to you guys and helping um the city move forward with some new and exciting projects. And I'd like to reiterate that I'm very happy to be here and I'll look forward to meeting you guys again in the future. [0:06:42, 0:06:43]: Oh welcome aboard, Mr. [0:06:44, 0:06:45]: Anderson? [0:06:45, 0:06:48]: Yeah, I look forward to seeing you as well. Thank you, sir. [0:06:49, 0:06:50]: Thank you. All right. [0:06:51, 0:06:52]: Thanks, Sharon. [0:07:01, 0:07:02]: Any other comments? [0:07:03, 0:07:04]: No, sir, that's it for me. [0:07:05, 0:07:08]: Okay, what about uh the next item is the uh public hearing? [0:07:09, 0:07:11]: Uh if you say you and Miss Logan. [0:07:13, 0:07:16]: Yes, uh Linda view call the Adam and uh present. [0:07:19, 0:07:19]: Okay. [0:07:20, 0:07:22]: Variance case number V R [0:07:22, 0:07:24]: Two oh two two oh one. [0:07:25, 0:07:27]: For seven two seven Beth Page Drive. [0:07:28, 0:07:34]: Nitesh Patel, the applicant and owner of a residential lot at seven twenty-seven Beth Page Drive. [0:07:34, 0:07:39]: Which is parcel ID number zero five one F zero one two two. [0:07:39, 0:07:41]: Zero zero zero zero. [0:07:41, 0:07:46]: Request a variance to reduce the property's rear yard setback from the required seventy-five feet. [0:07:47, 0:07:49]: For a golf course, a budding lot to fifty feet. [0:07:50, 0:07:53]: To allow for the construction of a new single family detached home. [0:07:54, 0:07:57]: The property is located in landlot seventeen of district six. [0:07:57, 0:07:59]: Within the stock rich city limits. [0:07:59, 0:08:02]: It comprises lot fourteen of block W. [0:08:02, 0:08:05]: Within unit eleven of the Eagles Landing subdivision. [0:08:07, 0:08:10]: I have a PowerPoint presentation prepared. [0:08:10, 0:08:12]: Which uh going to share with you. [0:08:13, 0:08:15]: Uh let's see. [0:08:16, 0:08:17]: Zacking. [0:08:18, 0:08:24]: Get a l I get a lot of pop ups on my screen, some ads, unfortunately. So you might you might see some of them. [0:08:25, 0:08:26]: Um [0:08:27, 0:08:27]: Okay. [0:08:30, 0:08:30]: Well [0:08:31, 0:08:33]: Not sure. Say share. [0:08:34, 0:08:35]: Uh [0:08:39, 0:08:39]: Okay. [0:08:41, 0:08:42]: Oh, there it is. Can you see it? [0:08:43, 0:08:46]: Yes, we can see your screen. Oh, okay, excellent. [0:08:46, 0:08:48]: So this is a cover page uh [0:08:49, 0:08:50]: titles of project and [0:08:51, 0:08:51]: This [0:08:51, 0:08:55]: This case will be going to city council meeting after this on April the eleventh. [0:08:57, 0:09:02]: The uh property is located in the Eagles Landing subdivision, and this is just a portion of it. Um [0:09:03, 0:09:05]: This is Beth Page Drive. [0:09:05, 0:09:08]: Here, this curved street, the subject properties right here, seven. [0:09:09, 0:09:09]: Twenty seven. [0:09:10, 0:09:11]: За гоф корс. [0:09:11, 0:09:16]: behind it that's part of Eagles Landing Country Club. And by the way, E Bethpage Drive forms [0:09:16, 0:09:17]: boundary between [0:09:17, 0:09:20]: Stockbridge city limits and Henry County. [0:09:20, 0:09:23]: Um the street behind it is is Cog Hill. [0:09:24, 0:09:27]: And I'll talk about two other properties here in a few minutes. [0:09:28, 0:09:29]: Oh. [0:09:29, 0:09:32]: It's a close up view of the subject property. It is vacant. [0:09:33, 0:09:36]: Um, you could see a couple of other houses uh there on the street. [0:09:37, 0:09:39]: Uh we posted um [0:09:39, 0:09:42]: signs selling signs on the property on March first. [0:09:43, 0:09:43]: Um [0:09:43, 0:09:46]: Here is the view uh from the east. [0:09:46, 0:09:47]: And it's a [0:09:47, 0:09:50]: vacant property here and you can see the other houses there on the street. [0:09:51, 0:09:53]: And then from the other direction [0:09:53, 0:09:56]: Again, here's the subject property and then you can see. [0:09:56, 0:10:00]: Ha a few lots, vacant lots in between and then other [0:10:00, 0:10:01]: Houses further down. [0:10:05, 0:10:07]: So these are some facts about the property. [0:10:07, 0:10:11]: Uh uh the application. Uh Mr. Nitesh Patel's a property owner and [0:10:12, 0:10:15]: Hazel Suparawala is an agent and as well as the builder. [0:10:16, 0:10:21]: Um, I've identified the property already. It is on PD plan development, vacant, level and wooded. [0:10:22, 0:10:22]: Um [0:10:23, 0:10:25]: Uh, the applicant again requested [0:10:26, 0:10:30]: set back to fifty feet, but he later revised his request. [0:10:30, 0:10:36]: to sixty-five feet. So then that would only be ten foot difference from the required seventy five feet. [0:10:36, 0:10:37]: Um [0:10:37, 0:10:44]: I see what I've been not covered. Uh surrounding leak land use, other existing homes on the lot on the street, vacant lots, as you saw. [0:10:45, 0:10:47]: Um most of these other houses have [0:10:48, 0:10:49]: The seventy five feet and one or two. [0:10:50, 0:10:50]: Year to happen. [0:10:50, 0:10:52]: Um sixty two to sixty five feet. [0:10:53, 0:10:55]: Okay. And [0:10:55, 0:10:56]: See, I have a [0:10:57, 0:11:01]: Another slide which shows a close up of that. [0:11:02, 0:11:02]: Let's see. [0:11:03, 0:11:04]: Uh [0:11:07, 0:11:08]: Mm-hmm. [0:11:09, 0:11:11]: Oh okay. So here again is a subject property. [0:11:12, 0:11:15]: Now if you can see here some of these other houses on the street. [0:11:15, 0:11:17]: You see the roofs of'em, of course. [0:11:17, 0:11:18]: And um [0:11:19, 0:11:21]: You can see how far back they are from there. [0:11:22, 0:11:23]: From the rear yard property line. [0:11:24, 0:11:25]: And um [0:11:26, 0:11:27]: I measured on [0:11:28, 0:11:29]: uh on the computer and [0:11:30, 0:11:30]: Wasn't it [0:11:31, 0:11:33]: precise but very close and they have [0:11:34, 0:11:36]: Seventy five, except for maybe this one. [0:11:37, 0:11:37]: Oh. [0:11:39, 0:11:41]: Okay, let's move on here. [0:11:42, 0:11:43]: Now the requirement for [0:11:44, 0:11:50]: The rear yard setback of 75 feet. This is where it comes from. I don't expect you to be able to read this. [0:11:50, 0:11:56]: But this is shows this is a cover page of the final approved plat for equals landing subdivision. [0:11:56, 0:11:59]: Unit l eleven, that's one of the sections. [0:11:59, 0:12:01]: This was done in two thousand five. [0:12:01, 0:12:02]: It shows um [0:12:03, 0:12:06]: shows the streets and the lots that are covered and [0:12:07, 0:12:11]: You can't see this, but this circled area here gives the required setbacks. [0:12:12, 0:12:12]: Oh. [0:12:13, 0:12:15]: So that's where the requirement comes from. [0:12:16, 0:12:18]: Uh this is the applicant's um [0:12:18, 0:12:20]: Um original site plan. [0:12:20, 0:12:24]: Uh proposed house, John and Green. Now wait a minute, how did this get moved lower? [0:12:25, 0:12:25]: Stop. [0:12:25, 0:12:26]: Okay. [0:12:26, 0:12:27]: Um [0:12:28, 0:12:33]: And so the issue is the distance really from from front to back. [0:12:33, 0:12:36]: Um that's the issue and you can see here the [0:12:36, 0:12:41]: The the front y required front yard setback is forty feet, and that is shown in this dashed line here. [0:12:42, 0:12:42]: Um [0:12:42, 0:12:46]: So even if the the um applicant were to [0:12:46, 0:12:49]: Move a house further closer to the street. [0:12:49, 0:12:52]: there would still be an encroachment at the rear. [0:12:53, 0:12:54]: And this is because of [0:12:55, 0:12:57]: The location of a garage here. [0:12:57, 0:12:58]: Um [0:12:58, 0:13:02]: There's a requirement in Eagles Landing uh subdivision, the [0:13:02, 0:13:05]: Property Owners Association has a policy which says [0:13:06, 0:13:08]: That they must uh property owners must. [0:13:09, 0:13:11]: Not have garages facing the street. [0:13:11, 0:13:14]: So therefore the applicant has to show the driveway. [0:13:14, 0:13:17]: The coming in from the side and the entry to the garage to the side. [0:13:18, 0:13:20]: And what that means is that the [0:13:20, 0:13:23]: a garage being turned sideways then makes it longer. [0:13:24, 0:13:25]: And um [0:13:25, 0:13:28]: longer distance front front to back. Here is the [0:13:29, 0:13:31]: Policy this is a page out of there. [0:13:32, 0:13:33]: Асоціації с [0:13:34, 0:13:35]: Manual. [0:13:35, 0:13:38]: So here this says garages here. [0:13:38, 0:13:40]: Two car garages are required. [0:13:40, 0:13:44]: And a garage must face either side lot line or rear yard line. [0:13:44, 0:13:47]: And in no case may it face the front property line. [0:13:48, 0:13:49]: They must be screened. [0:13:49, 0:13:53]: And um it it says it could have golf cart garage as well. [0:13:54, 0:13:58]: So this would be a f a three car garage plus a golf cart garage. [0:13:59, 0:14:00]: Uh huh. [0:14:01, 0:14:04]: Some zoning history of the property and um [0:14:04, 0:14:05]: No I'm [0:14:06, 0:14:10]: First in the area, we had um back in two thousand eleven. [0:14:11, 0:14:16]: Uh another property is not shown on the map, but it's closer to the entrance of the country club's main street. [0:14:16, 0:14:17]: Um [0:14:17, 0:14:23]: was granted a rear yard uh setback reduction, but that was for a swimming pool and not a house. [0:14:23, 0:14:28]: Then we have on three oh six Broadmoor Way, which is two streets further to the north. [0:14:29, 0:14:30]: Um [0:14:31, 0:14:35]: This is Cog Hill, the next street to the north, which it could not uh fit on here. [0:14:36, 0:14:37]: But anyway, um [0:14:39, 0:14:47]: So that one was is a large house. That's a large house been built on two lots, but that is outside of the city. So that was the county who granted that. [0:14:48, 0:14:51]: Uh now we have 845 Cog Hill. [0:14:51, 0:14:52]: The next street to the north. [0:14:53, 0:14:56]: Um this was granted a variance approval. [0:14:56, 0:14:57]: Uh after [0:14:58, 0:14:58]: Um [0:14:59, 0:15:04]: Eagles Landing Property Association Association Association approved it. The uh county had recommended an [0:15:04, 0:15:05]: The county [0:15:06, 0:15:08]: The variants case originally came to the county. [0:15:09, 0:15:12]: And then they recommend denial, but then since the [0:15:12, 0:15:16]: property owners will say she shouldn't approve it, then the city recommended approval. [0:15:16, 0:15:17]: However, this [0:15:18, 0:15:20]: Property still remains vacant. [0:15:20, 0:15:22]: And this was three years ago, so it's not been built. [0:15:23, 0:15:25]: And now most recently. [0:15:26, 0:15:28]: Go back to this other slide again. [0:15:30, 0:15:32]: Oh so this was an eight four. [0:15:32, 0:15:32]: Uh [0:15:33, 0:15:33]: I look. [0:15:33, 0:15:35]: That was the 845 right here. [0:15:36, 0:15:38]: Now the 842 here. [0:15:38, 0:15:40]: This is the most recent one. [0:15:40, 0:15:42]: City approved this. [0:15:42, 0:15:43]: But it was [0:15:44, 0:15:44]: Um [0:15:45, 0:15:46]: Administrative [0:15:46, 0:15:48]: waiver because [0:15:48, 0:15:50]: The something about the topography. [0:15:51, 0:15:53]: So it's not not quite the same. [0:15:53, 0:15:57]: uh situation. So I was just looking at any instances of [0:15:58, 0:16:01]: where a reduction in rear yard setback was granted. [0:16:01, 0:16:06]: So that's what I was able to find and I had the I had planners at Henry County also. [0:16:06, 0:16:07]: Do some of this research. [0:16:08, 0:16:09]: Uh, for me. [0:16:11, 0:16:13]: Now uh variants I see yeah. [0:16:14, 0:16:16]: Trying to see if there's a way I can [0:16:16, 0:16:17]: Move this off the side. [0:16:18, 0:16:19]: Okay, so now [0:16:19, 0:16:20]: The [0:16:21, 0:16:26]: Zoning uh a code requires a list different criteria, seven criteria, in fact. [0:16:27, 0:16:32]: uh for gr the granting of a variance and all seven criteria must be met. [0:16:33, 0:16:34]: Um now this [0:16:34, 0:16:35]: Application came in. [0:16:36, 0:16:38]: Uh before uh [0:16:38, 0:16:41]: March fourteenth, so therefore it still complies with [0:16:42, 0:16:42]: Or [0:16:43, 0:16:50]: our most recent uh zoning code, not the one that was just adopted by city council two weeks ago on March fourteenth. [0:16:51, 0:16:54]: But anyway, um these are the criteria and I've [0:16:54, 0:16:56]: This is paraphrased. This is not exact words. [0:16:57, 0:17:02]: But uh it's a criterion number one, extraordinary and exceptional conditions must exist on the property. [0:17:03, 0:17:07]: compared to other properties in a district regarding its size, shape, or topography. [0:17:07, 0:17:10]: Well we've said there are no such uh extra uh [0:17:10, 0:17:11]: Conditions. [0:17:12, 0:17:15]: However, due to the garage policy, the property owners association [0:17:16, 0:17:21]: Uh it may be difficult to fit a home onto the lot without protruding into the rear yard setback, as I said. [0:17:22, 0:17:24]: Criterion number two. [0:17:24, 0:17:28]: A literal interpretation of zoning code would deprive the applicant of rights. [0:17:28, 0:17:29]: Which other [0:17:29, 0:17:31]: owners of properties enjoy. [0:17:31, 0:17:32]: Um [0:17:32, 0:17:33]: We're saying [0:17:33, 0:17:38]: He would not be devi deprived of any such rights. He could still build a home on the property. [0:17:39, 0:17:41]: But not be able to might not be able to build a [0:17:41, 0:17:44]: Free car garage or golf cart garage, which [0:17:44, 0:17:45]: Other homes. [0:17:45, 0:17:47]: In this uh district have. [0:17:47, 0:17:49]: Criterion number three. Um [0:17:50, 0:17:57]: Granting the applicant this variance would not confer upon him any special privileges which other property owners in this district do enjoy. [0:17:58, 0:17:59]: I I do not enjoy. [0:17:59, 0:18:00]: Uh [0:18:00, 0:18:01]: We're saying that um [0:18:02, 0:18:05]: granting him the variance for the original request of fifty feet. [0:18:06, 0:18:08]: Would give him a special pri privilege. [0:18:08, 0:18:11]: compared to other property owners on Beck Page Drive. [0:18:11, 0:18:14]: Um however his revised request [0:18:14, 0:18:16]: Reduce the rear yard set back to fifty feet. [0:18:17, 0:18:20]: Six to sixty five B would be more reasonable. [0:18:20, 0:18:21]: Since another property [0:18:22, 0:18:24]: On the street appears to have a setback of sixty two weeks. [0:18:25, 0:18:26]: Um [0:18:26, 0:18:27]: Yeah, the rest of the [0:18:27, 0:18:28]: Um [0:18:29, 0:18:29]: Okay. [0:18:29, 0:18:30]: On the wrong page here. [0:18:30, 0:18:32]: Okay, the rest of the criteria here. [0:18:34, 0:18:36]: I don't know why I keep getting this um [0:18:37, 0:18:38]: Okay, criteria number four. [0:18:39, 0:18:42]: The variance must be consistent with the purposes intent of the zoning code. [0:18:43, 0:18:46]: Musky be compatible with neighboring properties and must serve. [0:18:46, 0:18:47]: The public welfare. [0:18:48, 0:18:52]: Uh we're saying that um reduction in rear yard setback just in general. [0:18:52, 0:18:56]: is a legitimate reason for someone to request the variance. [0:18:56, 0:19:01]: Um, however, the original request to reduce it to only fifty feet would not be compatible. [0:19:01, 0:19:02]: With the neighboring properties. [0:19:03, 0:19:06]: Since most of the rear yard setbacks are seventy five feet. [0:19:06, 0:19:08]: Thus this would not serve the public welfare. [0:19:08, 0:19:11]: However, yet the applicant's revised request [0:19:11, 0:19:15]: Reduction of sixty five sixty five feet would be more reasonable. [0:19:15, 0:19:16]: As I said. [0:19:17, 0:19:18]: Criteria number five. [0:19:18, 0:19:23]: Um, extraordinary circumstances must not be the result of the applicant's actions. [0:19:24, 0:19:26]: We're saying that these circumstances are due. [0:19:26, 0:19:30]: To the applicant's wish to build a large home with multiple garages. [0:19:30, 0:19:32]: And uh A and B. [0:19:32, 0:19:34]: Due to the property owner's garage policy. [0:19:35, 0:19:35]: Uh [0:19:36, 0:19:40]: And we're saying, however, it's reasonable to expect large homes with multiple garages to exist. [0:19:41, 0:19:43]: within a country club community. [0:19:44, 0:19:46]: Criteria number six. [0:19:46, 0:19:47]: The [0:19:47, 0:19:52]: Request must be the minimum that is needed to allow the applicant to have a legal use of the land building or structures. [0:19:53, 0:19:53]: Um [0:19:53, 0:19:58]: We're saying the original request for reduction to only fifty feet is not the minimum relief. [0:19:59, 0:20:04]: But uh and he he could build a home though with just the s with sixty five foot yard setback. [0:20:05, 0:20:07]: And finally, crit criterion number seven. [0:20:08, 0:20:12]: Requested variants must not allow a type of use that is prohibited in this district. [0:20:12, 0:20:16]: Um apparance is not required to build a home. [0:20:16, 0:20:18]: However it's a reasonable to expect large homes. [0:20:19, 0:20:23]: uh with multiple garages to be built with within the country club community, as I said before. [0:20:24, 0:20:29]: So we have two conclusions. First, applicant has demonstrated that a variant [0:20:29, 0:20:32]: Covariance is needed in order to meet the regulations of the [0:20:32, 0:20:34]: Eagles Landing Property Owners Association. [0:20:35, 0:20:39]: And even if home were to be moved forward to the front yard property line, it would still encroach. [0:20:39, 0:20:41]: into the rave yard set back. [0:20:41, 0:20:42]: Um [0:20:42, 0:20:47]: Now rear entry is allowed, but this would require a longer driveway. [0:20:48, 0:20:50]: Which would mean a sharper turning radius, more pavement. [0:20:51, 0:20:54]: and little usable remaining land for backyard. [0:20:54, 0:20:56]: And second clue conclusion. [0:20:57, 0:20:59]: Applicant requ requested as [0:20:59, 0:21:00]: Agreed to [0:21:00, 0:21:07]: A revised variance request with a rear setback of 65 feet instead of the original request of 50 feet. [0:21:08, 0:21:11]: And this seems reasonable with compared to the other properties on the street. [0:21:12, 0:21:15]: And finally, uh recommendations. [0:21:15, 0:21:21]: Number one, first we recommend demi denial of applicant's original request to reduce the rear yard setback to fifty feet. [0:21:21, 0:21:23]: But we recommend approval. [0:21:23, 0:21:28]: Of the revised request to reduce the rear yard set back to sixty five feet with the following [0:21:28, 0:21:29]: Or [0:21:29, 0:21:30]: Zoning conditions. [0:21:31, 0:21:31]: Uh [0:21:32, 0:21:32]: First. [0:21:32, 0:21:36]: property shall be developed only in accordance with the site plan, which is similar [0:21:37, 0:21:39]: to the one that was submitted with the application. [0:21:39, 0:21:45]: Except that it shall be revised to show a rear yard setback of sixty five feet. Now in my staff report. [0:21:45, 0:21:46]: I have the full [0:21:47, 0:21:48]: Language of this uh [0:21:49, 0:21:50]: Of this [0:21:50, 0:21:51]: zoning condition right here. [0:21:52, 0:21:54]: Uh should I read that, Miss Johnson? [0:21:55, 0:21:56]: For the record. [0:21:57, 0:21:58]: Yeah, yeah. [0:21:58, 0:21:59]: I should. [0:21:59, 0:22:00]: Okay. [0:22:01, 0:22:02]: Let me see. [0:22:03, 0:22:04]: I should have that. [0:22:06, 0:22:06]: Here. [0:22:07, 0:22:08]: Okay. [0:22:09, 0:22:10]: That um [0:22:10, 0:22:12]: First zoning uh [0:22:12, 0:22:14]: Condition is is as [0:22:14, 0:22:16]: I'll read it as follows. [0:22:17, 0:22:20]: The property shall be developed only in accordance with a revised site plan. [0:22:21, 0:22:26]: Which is similar to the submitted one, which was prepared by Sibley Miller Surveying and Planning Incorporated. [0:22:27, 0:22:27]: On [0:22:28, 0:22:29]: ten, twenty nine, twenty one. [0:22:30, 0:22:33]: As job number L two oh two eleven forty seven. [0:22:34, 0:22:38]: And which was received on February seventh, twenty twenty two. [0:22:38, 0:22:42]: Which shows that the rear yard setback will be no greater than sixty five feet. [0:22:43, 0:22:45]: Said site plan may be conceptual only. [0:22:45, 0:22:49]: And it must meet or exceed the requirements of the current zoning code. [0:22:49, 0:22:50]: And these conditions [0:22:51, 0:22:54]: prior to the approval of a land disturbance permit. [0:22:54, 0:22:58]: If these recommended zoning conditions cause the approved site plan to be [0:22:58, 0:22:59]: Substantially different. [0:23:00, 0:23:04]: The applicant shall be required to complete the concept review procedure. [0:23:04, 0:23:07]: prior to applying for a land disturbance permit. [0:23:07, 0:23:10]: Unless it is otherwise noted herein. [0:23:10, 0:23:12]: Compliance with all conditions shall [0:23:13, 0:23:16]: That should say, shall be in place prior to the issuance of the first [0:23:17, 0:23:18]: Certificate of occupancy. [0:23:20, 0:23:20]: Okay. [0:23:21, 0:23:22]: So that was the first zoning condition. [0:23:23, 0:23:27]: Uh second one is the rear yard setback shall be no less than sixty-five feet. [0:23:28, 0:23:30]: Which shall be measured from the rear yard property line. [0:23:31, 0:23:32]: To the nearest point. [0:23:32, 0:23:35]: Of the proposed home, which is the pro principal structure. [0:23:36, 0:23:39]: Uh third one is the property shall be developed in accordance with [0:23:39, 0:23:43]: With all other stipulations of the Eagles Landing property owners. [0:23:43, 0:23:44]: Association. [0:23:45, 0:23:46]: And finally [0:23:46, 0:23:50]: The fourth zoning condition the property shall be developed in accordance with all other [0:23:51, 0:23:56]: stipulations of the of the approved plat for the Eagles Landing Subdivision Unit 11. [0:23:56, 0:23:58]: Are there any questions? [0:24:00, 0:24:01]: None that I have. [0:24:04, 0:24:05]: Anyone have any questions? [0:24:07, 0:24:09]: None for me, Mr. Chairman. [0:24:09, 0:24:11]: No, sir. No questions. [0:24:11, 0:24:21]: Mr. Chairman, I do uh have a c a question. All right, Mr Dumas. The the agenda as I recall it. [0:24:22, 0:24:24]: It's asking us to vote. [0:24:26, 0:24:27]: On the there, yes. [0:24:28, 0:24:30]: For a fifty foot setback. [0:24:32, 0:24:47]: And I understand from listening and reading the correspondence that the there has been a revised request submitted that allows for a sixty-five foot setback, which does not appear on the agenda. [0:24:48, 0:24:51]: And I'm I'm a little confused as to what are we gonna be voting on. [0:24:53, 0:24:56]: Are we voting on the original or the revised? [0:24:57, 0:25:02]: I believe we're voting on a revived because there's been a compromise. [0:25:02, 0:25:10]: That's not what it says on the agenda though. That's that's that's my only concern. The the agenda was prepared in shortly after. [0:25:11, 0:25:13]: The applicant submit his application and then he [0:25:14, 0:25:16]: Submitted um revised request later. [0:25:20, 0:25:22]: We'll see if I can pull that pull up the letter that [0:25:22, 0:25:24]: He submitted to us. [0:25:25, 0:25:29]: And uh Mr. Dunis, if I may, while while Linda's pulling that up. [0:25:29, 0:25:49]: Um you're correct. The original request was to have a um 75 to 50 foot reduction, 75 feet to 50 feet. Um working with the applicant, um they had determined that they can [0:25:49, 0:25:50]: Mm. [0:25:50, 0:26:06]: bring the, you know, change the the parameters of the lot for the building in order to have ask for a lesser variance than the uh 15 feet that they are originally asking for in reduction. Now they're asking only for 10 feet. [0:26:07, 0:26:10]: I understand that. I my only concern [0:26:13, 0:26:25]: And this is just procedural, I I I imagine the the the agenda doesn't reflect what we and we just voted to approve the agenda. It's not reflective of what we actually getting ready to do. [0:26:25, 0:26:30]: But this was this is what was advertised in the newspaper. So we we can't change that. [0:26:31, 0:26:33]: So with that. [0:26:34, 0:26:38]: You all are making a decision based on the original request. [0:26:38, 0:26:41]: and to include the information that [0:26:41, 0:26:49]: what the applicant understands to be a hardship and to be the minimum variance he can ask for to build this home. [0:26:50, 0:26:56]: is what the uh staff is stating we would recommend approval for. [0:26:58, 0:27:00]: And here is the revised letter. [0:27:05, 0:27:09]: You want me to read that? Does that clear up clear up your um question, Mr. Dumas? [0:27:11, 0:27:16]: It it it does it it it does I I I guess you know. [0:27:16, 0:27:29]: Procedurally, I'm just not I'm a little uncomfortable with it not being, I mean, if if the revised request is what we're going to be taking action on, it seems to me that should have been put on the agenda. [0:27:31, 0:27:51]: Understood, however, the original request was for 75 to 50 feet. Uh, because this is a public hearing, the applicant you can't allow the applicant time to present his case in the matter um for any clarification and ask um him any questions and then open it up for. [0:27:51, 0:27:55]: discussion and then subsequently the public hearing and a vote. [0:27:56, 0:28:00]: And we actually have had this situation before with other cases. [0:28:00, 0:28:02]: Last year the Brandon Road subdivision. [0:28:02, 0:28:04]: Had a similar situation. [0:28:05, 0:28:05]: Which uh um [0:28:06, 0:28:07]: Developer revises request. [0:28:08, 0:28:10]: Upon uh staff recommendation. [0:28:12, 0:28:14]: This is Dave Planchon, Mr. Chairman. [0:28:15, 0:28:16]: Um Go ahead, Mr. Flash. [0:28:17, 0:28:20]: Does the item number on the agenda [0:28:20, 0:28:21]: Change. [0:28:22, 0:28:28]: Because we received a revised plan or does it maintain that same item number? [0:28:28, 0:28:30]: To be really long. [0:28:31, 0:28:34]: I believe it maintained the same item number, just an amendment to that uh [0:28:35, 0:28:37]: particular application. Now I read in the letters [0:28:38, 0:28:40]: And the correspondence that they had agreed to [0:28:41, 0:28:43]: But they had originally wanted fifty feet. [0:28:44, 0:28:46]: Yeah, mining it to sixty five feet. [0:28:47, 0:28:53]: which was more in compliance with the uh other properties in the area, where they have 60 and 62 feet. [0:28:54, 0:28:57]: And so the variance is really not out of. [0:28:57, 0:29:08]: out out of line because you have other variants there already that are not meeting the 75 foot setback requirement and there has been an amendment to that. In addition that Eagles Landing accepted that. [0:29:08, 0:29:10]: as being sixty five feet. [0:29:11, 0:29:17]: And so I believe what we're voting on is the amended application uh for setback of sixty five feet. [0:29:20, 0:29:24]: I may be wrong, but that's what I think. That's my understanding. [0:29:24, 0:29:25]: Yeah. [0:29:25, 0:29:29]: Well, you're actually voting on on both. You're voting on whether to [0:29:29, 0:29:34]: To grant the original request, which we recommend denial of. [0:29:34, 0:29:35]: And then we're [0:29:36, 0:29:37]: Then we then here on this [0:29:38, 0:29:39]: I have on my screen. [0:29:39, 0:29:40]: Uh [0:29:40, 0:29:43]: The applicant's revise request, so you're voting on that too. [0:29:44, 0:29:45]: Well wait a minute now. [0:29:46, 0:29:50]: You originally denied it. Wait, wait. You originally denied it because they wanted 50 feet. [0:29:50, 0:29:56]: Correct. We didn't deny. We recommended deny. You recommended denial because it's 50 feet. [0:29:56, 0:30:00]: Then they came back with 65 feet and you approved it, correct? [0:30:00, 0:30:02]: We recommend approval. [0:30:02, 0:30:04]: You recommend approval for the sixty five feet. [0:30:05, 0:30:11]: And so they got the amendment in. So we're actually voting on the 65 feet and the 50 feet has nothing to do with it. [0:30:13, 0:30:21]: Correct? Because you already said you recommended against that. So we're actually voting we're actually voting on the 65 feet setback requirement. [0:30:22, 0:30:33]: Mr. Chairman, this is Mr. Dumas again. I may be wrong, but based on what I'm hearing, it appears to me that we probably should vote on both the original and the amended. [0:30:35, 0:30:42]: So you want to vote to deny the original and then a vote to I'm not I'm not suggesting how we should vote. I'm saying [0:30:42, 0:30:48]: That we should address both of them. It it seems confusing to me. [0:30:48, 0:30:52]: The way the way the d you're articulating it. [0:30:52, 0:31:02]: It seems confusing to me. Well, I think it might help if I were to read into the record the uh applicant's revised request, which I have on my screen, number one. [0:31:02, 0:31:03]: And number two. [0:31:03, 0:31:05]: There's supposed to be a public hearing. [0:31:05, 0:31:07]: before any vote takes place. [0:31:09, 0:31:10]: You go here, Ms. Logan. [0:31:11, 0:31:13]: Okay, so I'm reading the um [0:31:13, 0:31:15]: Applicants revised. [0:31:15, 0:31:16]: Letter. [0:31:16, 0:31:20]: That we received it has a date of March sixteenth, twenty twenty two. [0:31:21, 0:31:26]: To whom it may concern, subject seven two seven Beth Page Drive Setback Variance. [0:31:26, 0:31:31]: My name is Nitesh Patel and I'm the owner of 727 Beth Page Drive. [0:31:31, 0:31:33]: McDonald, Georgia, three oh two five three. [0:31:34, 0:31:36]: I'm planning to build our dream home on this lot. [0:31:37, 0:31:38]: In Eagles Land and Country Club. [0:31:38, 0:31:41]: Majority of the lots and the subdivision lots. [0:31:41, 0:31:45]: Has fifty foot set fifty foot setbacks, rear setbacks. [0:31:45, 0:31:49]: With the exception of some on golf course that has seventy five feet. [0:31:50, 0:31:53]: My builder Faisal Suparawala. [0:31:53, 0:31:55]: Газ біл североїзнес неборгод. [0:31:55, 0:31:57]: And was able to get a rear setback. [0:31:58, 0:31:59]: variance reduced to fifty feet. [0:32:00, 0:32:02]: A number of properties in the neighborhood. [0:32:02, 0:32:05]: As long as you get golf club approval. [0:32:05, 0:32:10]: We have the approvals from the golf course and from HOA of Equals Landing. [0:32:10, 0:32:13]: We have also provided the addresses where variances were obtained. [0:32:14, 0:32:18]: According to Eagles Landing HOA building guidelines already submitted. [0:32:18, 0:32:21]: We cannot have a front entry garage. [0:32:21, 0:32:25]: In the subdivision and then and that's why we had to build a side yard. [0:32:25, 0:32:28]: A side entry courtyard garage to fit on his lot. [0:32:29, 0:32:33]: By doing this, the house footprint will not fit within the setbacks in place. [0:32:34, 0:32:35]: That's why we are requesting [0:32:36, 0:32:38]: A reduction in rear setbacks to fifty feet. [0:32:39, 0:32:44]: However, if for any reason the board is not able to reduce to 50 feet, we will be fine. [0:32:44, 0:32:47]: With a reduction to a minimum sixty five feet. [0:32:48, 0:32:50]: This will allow us to fit the house. [0:32:50, 0:32:52]: with the current plans on to it as luck. [0:32:53, 0:32:56]: I have spent thousands of dollars with engineers and architects. [0:32:56, 0:32:58]: And over four months of time. [0:32:59, 0:33:03]: I've complied with everything the city P Z planning and zoning department asked for. [0:33:03, 0:33:06]: I hope the board consider our simple request. [0:33:06, 0:33:09]: So that we can be on our way of getting this house built. [0:33:10, 0:33:12]: Please don't hesitate to call me. [0:33:12, 0:33:14]: If you have any questions. [0:33:14, 0:33:17]: Four seven eight three three five one four [0:33:17, 0:33:18]: two seven. [0:33:20, 0:33:21]: Okay. [0:33:21, 0:33:23]: And it's sincerely Natash. [0:33:23, 0:33:24]: Patel. [0:33:24, 0:33:26]: And it has a s his signature. [0:33:26, 0:33:37]: Mr. Chairman, this is Dave Planchon. It sounds like he wants us to vote on both, whether or not we will allow him the fifty foot. And if not, then will we allow him the sixty-five? [0:33:38, 0:33:39]: Okay. [0:33:40, 0:33:48]: That's correct. That's correct. Okay. But this is a public hearing, so we will need to um open it up for it for that portion. [0:33:48, 0:33:49]: If you all are ready. [0:33:50, 0:33:52]: All right, open it up for public hearing. [0:33:57, 0:34:06]: We'll need to address those who are in opposition of the request and those in favor and each side gets time to respond. [0:34:10, 0:34:11]: Um [0:34:11, 0:34:15]: Yeah, go ahead. Uh I'm fine for Safariola. [0:34:17, 0:34:19]: Can you guys hear me? [0:34:21, 0:34:28]: Chairman, if I may, um, do you before you call for the public hearing, would you like to hear from the applicants? [0:34:28, 0:34:31]: Sure we hear from at this at this time. [0:34:31, 0:34:35]: I think he's that that uh he's the developer, he's not the applicant, but go ahead. [0:34:38, 0:34:42]: He's applied on behalf of the of the owner. Okay. Mr. Fess. [0:34:42, 0:34:45]: Yes, sir. Um again Pfizer's probably all I am. [0:34:46, 0:34:57]: Nine hundred for the pines, uh McDonald, Georgia is within the city of Five Residents of my residence. Um as uh you know we've we've been going back and forth. [0:34:58, 0:35:00]: Logan and she's been very helpful with [0:35:01, 0:35:05]: Azil, I'm sorry, we can we can barely hear you. [0:35:05, 0:35:06]: Speaker up into the mic, please. [0:35:07, 0:35:08]: Can you can you guys hear me? [0:35:09, 0:35:10]: Yes. [0:35:11, 0:35:19]: Yeah, I'm sorry. Uh so I am uh I am a builder developer, resident builder over here in Eaglesign and Country Club, built several homes. Um [0:35:20, 0:35:21]: And uh [0:35:21, 0:35:23]: This is the issue we run into uh [0:35:24, 0:35:27]: Several times with the property on the golf course. [0:35:27, 0:35:27]: Um [0:35:28, 0:35:30]: There are about eight hundred properties in this neighborhood. [0:35:30, 0:35:31]: Out of which [0:35:32, 0:35:32]: Yeah. [0:35:32, 0:35:34]: Maybe um [0:35:34, 0:35:37]: hundred are on golf course and other seven hundred they are on [0:35:38, 0:35:40]: non golf cour non golf coast properties. [0:35:41, 0:35:43]: So the setbacks on those are fifty foot. [0:35:43, 0:35:44]: Except for the [0:35:45, 0:35:46]: the the golf course ones. Um [0:35:47, 0:35:51]: And after talking to the the city several times. [0:35:51, 0:35:54]: But looking at a request, you know, they [0:35:55, 0:35:58]: They they they recommended us that seventy five foot [0:35:58, 0:36:00]: To fifty foot would be [0:36:00, 0:36:08]: would be uh not possible to get at this time. And um if if it was any other way that we could do this. So [0:36:09, 0:36:12]: That's why we are here. We are able to do this. [0:36:12, 0:36:23]: at a you know um we talked to our engineers and it's like we're gonna need minimum of sixty five foot to to get uh the this house that you know with the with this garage in there. [0:36:23, 0:36:25]: So that's why um [0:36:25, 0:36:27]: Questing um [0:36:27, 0:36:30]: If any of you have any uh [0:36:31, 0:36:34]: uh questions I'm here to answer on behalf of Mr. Patel. [0:36:36, 0:36:37]: I have a question for you. [0:36:37, 0:36:42]: Yes, sir. Did you build the other two houses with the uh setback variances? [0:36:42, 0:36:48]: Uh I built three oh six Broadmoor. Uh that was in the county. Uh that's [0:36:48, 0:36:50]: It was on the paper but [0:36:50, 0:36:57]: We couldn't see that uh map on the on the map. Uh eight forty five Coghill. I'm the one who got the variance, but [0:36:57, 0:36:57]: Um [0:36:58, 0:37:00]: Right after right after we did that. [0:37:00, 0:37:05]: the COVID happened and the seller of the the owner of the property decided not to build. [0:37:06, 0:37:10]: The other two properties, they do not abut the uh golf course at all, do they? [0:37:11, 0:37:12]: They do, both of them they do, yes sir. [0:37:13, 0:37:14]: Both of them are butcher golf course. [0:37:14, 0:37:15]: Yes, sir. [0:37:15, 0:37:16]: Okay. [0:37:16, 0:37:30]: It's one is Cog Hill, 845 Cog Hill, which is just one street. Actually is on the other side of the golf course. If you look at that picture that she was showing earlier with the plat where our subject property is, there's a golf course right behind it. [0:37:31, 0:37:34]: And the street right behind the golf course, that's yeah, so [0:37:34, 0:37:36]: That's Cog Hill on that side. [0:37:37, 0:37:40]: This is Cog Hill here, going between these two arts. [0:37:41, 0:37:41]: Zacog Hill. [0:37:42, 0:37:44]: And yeah, it actually intersects with [0:37:44, 0:37:47]: This is Beth Page Drive, so they they they intersect. [0:37:47, 0:37:56]: Yeah. And and Broadmoor is to the north on the other side of that property. Up here. Yeah. Other side of the scope. Yeah, where the cur where the cursor is, that's the other property. [0:37:56, 0:37:58]: But her cursor, yeah, right there. [0:37:58, 0:37:59]: That's the three oh six problem. [0:38:00, 0:38:01]: They're all on the hospital. [0:38:02, 0:38:08]: We were able to, I mean, you know, make our case and get fifty foot setbacks on both of those. [0:38:12, 0:38:14]: Okay, I don't have any further questions. [0:38:14, 0:38:16]: Anyone else have any questions? [0:38:21, 0:38:23]: This is Dave Planchin. Mr. Chairman, I do [0:38:26, 0:38:28]: For the builder, the FIZAL. [0:38:29, 0:38:32]: Are you going to present another building plan? [0:38:34, 0:38:36]: Sure, the the the building plan stays the same. [0:38:37, 0:38:43]: Uh that's why we are doing all this. Um the owner spent about almost twenty thousand dollars making this building plan. [0:38:43, 0:38:45]: and stays um [0:38:46, 0:38:46]: The [0:38:46, 0:38:57]: If uh the board approves that sixty-five foot setback, we would just, you know, that's one of the conditions, Miss Linda Johnson, uh Ms. Linda uh said. [0:38:57, 0:39:01]: That we just have to change the site plan asking for [0:39:02, 0:39:04]: sixty five instead of [0:39:04, 0:39:05]: Fifty. [0:39:07, 0:39:09]: Okay, the site plan that I saw. [0:39:10, 0:39:14]: showed a front entrance garage which we know is not a not [0:39:14, 0:39:17]: Hmm, no, actually it's no no. [0:39:18, 0:39:19]: As a side entry garage, sir. [0:39:20, 0:39:20]: To the right. [0:39:21, 0:39:25]: It sits out as if it's a front end drive drive right here. [0:39:25, 0:39:26]: And the entrance. [0:39:27, 0:39:30]: This way. So you have to make this turn to come into the garage. [0:39:31, 0:39:33]: On it. Okay. Okay. Okay. [0:39:36, 0:39:39]: So that is a side entrance. Okay. Thank you. [0:39:44, 0:39:45]: Any other questions? [0:39:47, 0:39:49]: I guess we'll open up to a public uh [0:39:51, 0:39:52]: Response. [0:39:54, 0:39:55]: Ms. Johnson? [0:39:56, 0:40:15]: Um, so I do not see any questions or raised hands uh from the public at this time. I believe we have two. Um, well, I do have one raised hand now. Um, Ms. Charlene Nichols, if you would um state your name and your address for the record and your request. [0:40:20, 0:40:21]: Believe she's muted. [0:40:22, 0:40:30]: She is uh if you unmute and Robert, if you wouldn't mind making Ms. Nichols a panelist to ask her question. [0:40:37, 0:40:38]: And whoa. [0:40:38, 0:40:43]: What we'll do, Miss Charlene. I think she dropped off, but if she does jump back on, um we'll [0:40:44, 0:40:48]: uh give her an opportunity to speak if we haven't concluded the matter. [0:40:49, 0:40:50]: Should be back against it. [0:40:52, 0:40:54]: Pardon me? Well what was that? [0:40:57, 0:40:58]: She'll be back in just a second. [0:40:59, 0:40:59]: Okay. [0:41:01, 0:41:01]: Can be [0:41:10, 0:41:28]: But as of right now, um we did have just Miss Charlene, who's the other person that wants to speak. Um and I'm not sure if it's in favor or or opposing the request. So we'll if you do want to give her that time to get back on, um chairman. [0:41:28, 0:41:29]: Yeah. [0:41:41, 0:41:47]: Okay, so Ms. Nichols is a panelist. Looks like she's a panelist on here and [0:41:47, 0:41:52]: Ms. Nichols, if you would like to speak, please state your name, your address. [0:41:52, 0:41:55]: And whether you're in favor or in opposition of the [0:41:56, 0:41:58]: of the proposed variants. [0:42:15, 0:42:17]: Okay. Is she there? [0:42:18, 0:42:24]: She's here, but I don't think she's able to speak. Ms. Nichols, if you wouldn't mind, if you will write in the chat. [0:42:25, 0:42:27]: And then we can address we can address your matter. [0:42:28, 0:42:29]: Um [0:42:31, 0:42:31]: Mm. [0:42:39, 0:42:48]: Chairman, I guess it at this point we can ask, if you wouldn't mind, we can ask for those, if there's anyone who would like to speak in favor of this request. [0:42:52, 0:42:57]: Is there anyone present who would like to speak in favor of uh the proposed uh variant? [0:43:03, 0:43:06]: Okay, I don't see anything in the QA. [0:43:07, 0:43:09]: And I do not see. [0:43:10, 0:43:12]: A raised hand at this time. [0:43:14, 0:43:18]: And if you wouldn't mind calling for those who would like to speak in opposition. [0:43:18, 0:43:19]: Other request? [0:43:20, 0:43:24]: Uh those parties have an uh position in opposition of the variants. [0:43:24, 0:43:28]: Kindly step forward, speak, give your name, address. [0:43:33, 0:43:34]: Hi. [0:43:34, 0:43:36]: At this time. [0:43:37, 0:43:40]: And give me one more moment. I'm gonna take a look. [0:43:45, 0:43:51]: I do not have any other questions or raised hands at this time. [0:43:52, 0:43:58]: We have we have no one at this time to speak in opposition or in favor of the request. [0:44:03, 0:44:07]: Hearing none, the the uh commission will take a vote on the variance. [0:44:08, 0:44:10]: Uh uh was there any chat come in yet? [0:44:12, 0:44:13]: Nothing is coming at this time. [0:44:14, 0:44:14]: Okay. [0:44:15, 0:44:21]: But we have no we have no one to speak in favor or opposition at this time. Okay, Ms. Nichols. Ms. Nichols is on. [0:44:22, 0:44:31]: Ms. Nichols, if you unmute your mic and tell us your name and your address for the record and whether you are in favor or opposed to the variance. [0:44:41, 0:44:42]: There may be some. [0:44:44, 0:44:45]: Technical difficulties. [0:44:49, 0:44:49]: [2695.9, 2697.2]: Oh her mic is muted. [0:44:58, 0:45:03]: Ms. Nichols, if you unmute your mic and I've asked, I've sent a request for you to unmute. [0:45:10, 0:45:11]: Mm-hmm. [0:45:14, 0:45:25]: Okay, I think there's some technical technical difficulties there. Um is up to you, Chairman, if you would like to offer any additional time to Ms. Nichols. [0:45:25, 0:45:34]: Otherwise um we would be able to move forward with with the vote. I I believe we should move forward with this. Uh yeah we [0:45:34, 0:45:40]: Pardon me, um, this is Dave Planchon. We have two other raised hands of Charlene Nichols. [0:45:40, 0:45:42]: And the Gordon Linton [0:45:42, 0:45:50]: And Gordon Linton is one of our staff members. Uh Gordon, do you have information from Ms. Nichols in regards to this matter? [0:45:50, 0:45:59]: Yes. So she's she she's she's having technical issues and she says that it's not working. Like I'm corresponding with her right now. [0:45:59, 0:46:00]: Okay. [0:46:00, 0:46:06]: Does she would she like to offer whether she is in support or in opposition of the variance request? [0:46:07, 0:46:10]: She is in opposition of their variance request. [0:46:10, 0:46:13]: Okay, she needs to stay provide her name. [0:46:13, 0:46:16]: And her address for the record. [0:46:18, 0:46:19]: Okay. [0:46:24, 0:46:24]: Oh [0:46:25, 0:46:30]: She says she's she's she's n actually she's not in opposition. She just has some questions. [0:46:32, 0:46:32]: Okay. [0:46:33, 0:46:36]: If she can correspond with you on those questions. [0:46:37, 0:46:38]: Or maybe a phone call. [0:46:42, 0:46:43]: Mm. [0:46:44, 0:46:48]: She's she asks how how will this affect the neighbors? [0:46:48, 0:46:58]: So what we'll need to do, uh Gordon, she will need to provide her full name and her address for the record. We would have to have that first to verify that she is a stockers resident. [0:46:59, 0:46:59]: Okay. [0:47:10, 0:47:10]: Mm. [0:47:10, 0:47:14]: Sept seven thirty three Beth Page Drive. [0:47:14, 0:47:19]: Thank you so much. 733 Beth Page Drive is Charlene Nichols. [0:47:21, 0:47:22]: Mm. [0:47:22, 0:47:26]: Okay, so she is not opposed, but she has questions. [0:47:26, 0:47:27]: Her question is [0:47:29, 0:47:33]: She said well, actually she's saying that's her assistant. Um [0:47:33, 0:47:35]: That's her assistant. [0:47:36, 0:47:39]: Um she's actually texting me right. Her name is Leona Shaw. [0:47:43, 0:47:43]: Okay. [0:47:44, 0:47:45]: And what is the question? [0:47:46, 0:47:50]: She asked she had a question about how will this affect neighbors? [0:47:52, 0:47:53]: That's that's her question. [0:47:54, 0:48:11]: Okay. Um chairman, you can give the um the applicant the ability to respond. Um it's it's a pretty broad question, but um if there are any specifics for them, that'd be appreciative if that can be shared. Otherwise. [0:48:11, 0:48:15]: Chairman, you can give the applicant an opportunity to respond to that question. [0:48:15, 0:48:16]: Yeah. [0:48:17, 0:48:19]: I'm sorry. Um she said it in terms of the view. [0:48:20, 0:48:23]: how this affect the neighbors in terms of the view. That's her question. [0:48:26, 0:48:33]: Excuse me, I have verified that the address of seven thirty three Beth Page Drive is located in Stockford City Limit. [0:48:35, 0:48:38]: Will you have Mr. Fizer address that issue that the um [0:48:39, 0:48:40]: Public has raised. [0:48:41, 0:48:42]: Yes. I mean that [0:48:43, 0:48:49]: The question is how is it gonna affect the view? Uh I don't know what view [0:48:50, 0:48:57]: She's talking about because this particular look sounds like this is the neighbor, the waking property. There's not a [0:48:57, 0:48:58]: There's not a house on it. [0:48:59, 0:49:00]: It's a vacant property. [0:49:01, 0:49:02]: And um [0:49:03, 0:49:07]: The view is in the backyard to the golf course. It does not affect that at all. [0:49:08, 0:49:09]: The diss. [0:49:09, 0:49:10]: Um [0:49:11, 0:49:13]: with this with this variance request. [0:49:13, 0:49:20]: So you're saying that because it's a real setback uh adjustment uh variance and it's facing the golf course. [0:49:20, 0:49:27]: It would not affect the public or any adjoining property owners view, correct? Correct correct. They'll still have their own view. [0:49:27, 0:49:29]: Whatever they see from the backyard. [0:49:29, 0:49:30]: [2970.6, 2973.2]: obstructing their backyard. We're just going in. [0:49:33, 0:49:33]: Cool. [0:49:34, 0:49:35]: Our backyard. [0:49:35, 0:49:36]: You're not obstructing their view. [0:49:37, 0:49:37]: No. [0:49:38, 0:49:42]: Correct. All right. You might mean the view from the backyard looking sideways. [0:49:43, 0:49:43]: Um [0:49:44, 0:49:51]: Well she's gonna hide. I don't know that we can verify that at this at this point since we had have to have to verify um [0:49:51, 0:50:11]: what location this is. And if the lot is currently wooded, the effect would be it would no longer be wooded and it would be built. It would be developed. And I have I have a little objection. I don't know if she qualifies to be a Stockbridge resident. It's a it's just an empty lot. She's not a resident. It's just a lot. [0:50:14, 0:50:22]: Okay. Well we have her question and her and the answer, uh Chairman. Are you ready to move forward with the vote? Yes, I am. [0:50:22, 0:50:23]: Okay. [0:50:23, 0:50:28]: Mr. Chairman, uh this is Mr. Dumas, please, before we take the vote. [0:50:29, 0:50:32]: I would just I just have a comment that I'd like to make. [0:50:33, 0:50:33]: Sure. [0:50:34, 0:50:34]: Um [0:50:36, 0:50:39]: And you guys have heard me say this many times. It's rare that I will. [0:50:41, 0:50:43]: Go against the recommendation of staff. [0:50:45, 0:50:47]: But but in this particular case. [0:50:48, 0:50:50]: Oh with four is the [0:50:50, 0:50:52]: The original variance request. [0:50:53, 0:50:53]: [3053.7, 3055.9]: Uh I'm inclined to [0:50:56, 0:50:59]: disagree with staff on this issue. [0:50:59, 0:51:00]: For several reasons. [0:51:01, 0:51:02]: Mainly of optics. [0:51:03, 0:51:04]: Because [0:51:06, 0:51:09]: We entertain this body, this this commission. [0:51:09, 0:51:12]: In February two thousand nineteen. [0:51:12, 0:51:15]: We entertain a very similar [0:51:16, 0:51:17]: Various requests. [0:51:19, 0:51:20]: In the same subdivision. [0:51:21, 0:51:22]: Same agent. [0:51:23, 0:51:26]: Same a variance request in terms of footage. [0:51:27, 0:51:30]: And this body voted unanimously to approve it. [0:51:32, 0:51:36]: And it went to city council in March of two twenty nineteen. [0:51:36, 0:51:38]: And they approved it also. [0:51:41, 0:51:47]: And I'm just concerned. I don't think there's a right or wrong answer. I'm not debating fifty versus sixty-five. [0:51:48, 0:51:51]: But I am concerned of about consistency. [0:51:53, 0:51:57]: When a person come before this body or this city. [0:51:59, 0:52:02]: with very similar requests at two different intervals. [0:52:03, 0:52:05]: and they get two different results. [0:52:05, 0:52:06]: To me that's problematic. [0:52:10, 0:52:12]: I I think from a consistency standpoint. [0:52:14, 0:52:15]: That we should [0:52:17, 0:52:22]: uh treat this uh various requests the same way we treated the one in 2019. [0:52:23, 0:52:33]: And one but you're supposed to just I'm sorry. In a variant request in 2019, what was the variance from 60 or 62 feet? 75 to 50. [0:52:34, 0:52:40]: Seventy five to fifty. Yes, it was a golf course lot. It's one street over from this one. [0:52:40, 0:52:41]: And we granted it. [0:52:42, 0:52:47]: That was an 845 Cog Hill. The Homeowners Association didn't have a problem with it. [0:52:48, 0:52:50]: Just like they don't have a problem with this one. [0:52:51, 0:52:52]: And [0:52:52, 0:52:53]: I think [0:52:54, 0:52:56]: In my opinion, we should be consistent. [0:52:59, 0:53:00]: For the sake of [0:53:02, 0:53:08]: treating treating his people this you know the same way with very similar situation. [0:53:08, 0:53:12]: Okay, you know, with with with with zoning is always interesting because [0:53:13, 0:53:15]: Everybody comes up with a with a variance. [0:53:16, 0:53:17]: Um [0:53:17, 0:53:18]: The variance [0:53:18, 0:53:21]: that's closest to this is almost across the street from them. [0:53:23, 0:53:26]: They got a variance to sixty feet or sixty-two feet. [0:53:27, 0:53:34]: Here they're asking for 65. So that is really consistent with what's been going on. Now the fact that somebody got a 50 foot variance. [0:53:35, 0:53:39]: And if I'm not mistaken, isn't that out of the uh the this that's in Henry County? [0:53:39, 0:53:48]: No. Not in not in Stockbridge. No, no. The one that we voted on in 19 was in Stockbridge. The Stockbridge? Which is why we voted on it. [0:53:48, 0:53:51]: It wouldn't have come before us if were it not. [0:53:51, 0:53:54]: No, I thought he said earlier that they have approved one. [0:53:54, 0:54:03]: That was in Henry County, something I'm not even addressing that one. Yeah. When I mentioned the word consistency, I'm not talking about [0:54:03, 0:54:15]: Stockbridge versus Henry County. I'm talking about consistency in how we treat the same person with a very similar set of circumstances, set of facts. [0:54:16, 0:54:24]: I I just don't feel like you a person should come before this body in that with that scenario and get two different results. [0:54:25, 0:54:27]: It it it's that's problematic to me. [0:54:29, 0:54:31]: Mr. Chairman, this is Dave Planchon. [0:54:31, 0:54:32]: Go ahead. [0:54:32, 0:54:35]: Uh, my comment on this matter is. [0:54:35, 0:54:38]: The property owner has given us a choice. [0:54:39, 0:54:43]: to either approve a fifty foot or a sixty five foot. [0:54:44, 0:54:48]: I don't think there's any conflict with what was done in nineteen. [0:54:48, 0:54:51]: It wasn't stated whether the twenty nineteen [0:54:51, 0:54:54]: Variants offered a choice or not. [0:54:55, 0:54:57]: And this body approved the fifty foot. [0:54:57, 0:54:59]: But this in this case. [0:55:00, 0:55:02]: The owner has given us a choice. [0:55:03, 0:55:08]: So I think that's the direction we need to look at is choosing one of his options. [0:55:10, 0:55:11]: Okay. [0:55:13, 0:55:14]: Uh [0:55:15, 0:55:16]: Anyone else have any comments? [0:55:19, 0:55:22]: All right, then then we'll uh I'm asking for a vote. [0:55:23, 0:55:27]: on the fifty foot versus the sixty-five foot. That'll be the original application. [0:55:28, 0:55:29]: Versus the amended application. [0:55:30, 0:55:36]: Mr. Chairman, I'd like to offer a motion to approve the original variance request. [0:55:37, 0:55:39]: From seven to five to fifty feet. [0:55:40, 0:55:45]: Okay. That there's uh all those in favor, let it be known by sign of I. [0:55:45, 0:55:47]: Need a second first. Well, I'm sorry, second. [0:55:48, 0:55:49]: I'm second it. [0:55:49, 0:55:50]: You second it. [0:55:50, 0:55:54]: Okay. It's been moved in second, it's hell tip, though. [0:55:54, 0:56:00]: that uh the applicant be granted a 50-foot um variant. [0:56:01, 0:56:01]: Set bag. [0:56:02, 0:56:05]: All those in favor let it be known by Santa Bye. [0:56:06, 0:56:06]: Bye. [0:56:06, 0:56:07]: Uh [0:56:09, 0:56:10]: Those opposed? [0:56:11, 0:56:12]: Those opposed? [0:56:14, 0:56:15]: Hearing none. [0:56:15, 0:56:17]: The fifty foot variance is granted. [0:56:18, 0:56:19]: Was that your name on the boat? [0:56:20, 0:56:20]: Pardon me. [0:56:21, 0:56:22]: Was that a unanimous vote? [0:56:22, 0:56:23]: Yeah. [0:56:23, 0:56:24]: It was [0:56:24, 0:56:25]: Oh, you know, well. [0:56:27, 0:56:28]: Thank you, Chairman. [0:56:28, 0:56:30]: Okay. Thank you, um commissioners. [0:56:35, 0:56:52]: So our next item are project updates. Correct. I want to just say thank you to the Planning Commission for those of you who were able to attend the groundbreaking ceremony for the Argento at Bridges Jotaco. [0:56:53, 0:57:06]: Um, if you were not able to come and it was a it was a cold, damp morning. So if you weren't able to make it out, no worries. Uh I know Ms. Nelson uh was able to come out. And if I did not see you, oh no, Chairman Doole, you were there as well. [0:57:07, 0:57:12]: And I'm not sure if I saw anyone else, but if I if I didn't, please forgive me. [0:57:12, 0:57:24]: Um, I would love to set up a time to meet you out on site so that you can, if the developers are available, meet the developers, learn a little bit about the project. [0:57:24, 0:57:44]: And we'd be more familiarized with the new development that's going on throughout the city. So thank you again for that. Next, I wanted to address the UDC, the unified development code that this board sent through to the city council in October was adopted by [0:57:44, 0:57:46]: by the council on March fourteenth. [0:57:47, 0:58:04]: So kudos to this board for your dedication and diligence in reviewing the document and providing your questions, comments, and concerns, and for pushing this forward. The code allows for us to have a little bit more uh [0:58:05, 0:58:18]: control or or you know input on design detail, but also allows the developer additional design flexibility. We wanted to find a way to combine the two, and I think we have. [0:58:20, 0:58:26]: Furthermore, our zoning map and overlay district maps were also adopted. [0:58:26, 0:58:38]: We have a consultant we are working with who will be creating a digital map for our zoning map and our overlay district, and we'll have some other information available as well. [0:58:38, 0:58:45]: So please keep your eyes uh uh open for those. I'll send you emails to keep you up to date on that. [0:58:46, 0:58:59]: And it also will help our customers be able to identify property quickly instead of looking at the static map that we currently have. So uh I'll keep you guys posted on that. [0:59:01, 0:59:21]: Last but not least, the mayor will be uh available for a session at the South Metro Development Outlook Conference that is coming up next week. I believe that is going to be next Tuesday at the Georgia International Conference Center. [0:59:21, 0:59:21]: Yeah. [0:59:22, 0:59:25]: So if you are interested in attending, it starts at 7 a.m. [0:59:26, 0:59:28]: ends about two o clock or two thirty. [0:59:29, 0:59:33]: Um so we'll address address that then if you have some interest in attending. [0:59:33, 0:59:39]: Uh that's all I have for staff updates um outside of [0:59:39, 0:59:57]: um just of being appreciative of this board for being very thoughtful about the cases and items that come before you and for the discussion at any and every meeting. This is important and we appreciate the time and dedication that you put into these meetings. [0:59:57, 1:00:00]: So that's all I've got for you all tonight. [1:00:00, 1:00:02]: Um Chairman Abdullah. [1:00:02, 1:00:06]: I have a question for you. When will we get copies of the uh unified development code? [1:00:07, 1:00:21]: Well, we're getting the last signatures from the mayor, hopefully the first part of next week and getting it codified. Uh question, does everybody want a hard copy or do you want a digital copy as well? Because everybody's getting digital. [1:00:21, 1:00:25]: But if you want a hard copy as well, please let me know and we'll get that printed for you. [1:00:25, 1:00:27]: I'd like a hard copy. [1:00:27, 1:00:27]: Okay. [1:00:28, 1:00:29]: Chairman. [1:00:30, 1:00:34]: Anyone else want a hard copy of the unified development code? [1:00:35, 1:00:38]: Yeah, I'll take a hard copy. This is Harold Tivoda. [1:00:38, 1:00:40]: I got you, Mr. Tibodeau. [1:00:43, 1:00:45]: All right, is that it for the most part? [1:00:47, 1:00:49]: Okay. I believe that. [1:00:50, 1:00:51]: That completes the agenda. [1:00:52, 1:00:54]: Uh motion to adjourn. [1:00:55, 1:00:56]: A second. [1:00:57, 1:00:59]: You know, you making the motion. [1:00:59, 1:01:04]: Oh you said motion to adjourn. You got I said may I have a motion to adjourn. [1:01:07, 1:01:09]: I make a motion to adjourn tonight's meeting. [1:01:09, 1:01:10]: Yeah. [1:01:10, 1:01:10]: Yeah. [1:01:11, 1:01:13]: I second it. Mr. Tibetal second. [1:01:14, 1:01:14]: Yeah. [1:01:15, 1:01:18]: It's been moved and second. All those in favor, let it be known by the sign of aye. [1:01:18, 1:01:21]: Uh uh those opposed. [1:01:22, 1:01:26]: Bas have it, this meeting is adjourned until the next scheduled meeting. [1:01:27, 1:01:29]: Thank you all for being present this evening. [1:01:30, 1:01:32]: And uh the debate is always welcome. [1:01:34, 1:01:41]: Everybody take care. All right. Bye bye. Thank you all. Have a good evening. Have a good evening.

--- title: Downtown Development Authority date: 2022-03-15 source: 2022-03-15_Downtown_Development_Authority.wav --- [0:00:03, 0:00:16]: Uh good evening. Um this is the uh March fifteenth meeting of the Dow Stockbridge Downtown Development Authority. Uh welcome. Uh we will start off with a roll call. Uh Bob, if you'll please call the meeting. [0:00:17, 0:00:19]: Okay. Um Councilman Alexander. [0:00:21, 0:00:21]: Present. [0:00:22, 0:00:23]: Uh, Roger Custon. [0:00:24, 0:00:25]: Present. [0:00:25, 0:00:26]: The Nico King. [0:00:26, 0:00:27]: Present. [0:00:28, 0:00:29]: Barber Richardson. [0:00:29, 0:00:30]: Present. [0:00:31, 0:00:32]: Uh Maxwell Sears. [0:00:33, 0:00:33]: Mm-hmm. [0:00:34, 0:00:36]: And Bob Swagert, president. [0:00:37, 0:00:45]: Thank you. Uh that's a um uh that calls for a quorum. So we will call the meeting in order at six oh two PM. [0:00:46, 0:01:06]: All right, first item on the agenda is um to well first of all I'd like to welcome we have some guest uh speakers with us today, so um we'll introduce them uh shortly, uh but um we'll go ahead and start off with uh today's meeting agenda. So I'd like to um [0:01:06, 0:01:15]: make um uh well first of all let me defer to Barber. Uh Barber did was there anything you wanted to reorder a motion to reorder on the agenda? [0:01:15, 0:01:19]: Yes, uh please if we could move the treasurer's report up. [0:01:20, 0:01:22]: I'm in between a couple of deadlines, so [0:01:22, 0:01:25]: That would be very helpful if it's okay with everyone else. [0:01:27, 0:01:36]: Okay, so how about we we move that? Um would it be all right uh uh if it follows the uh Georgia Tech Market Studion? [0:01:37, 0:01:37]: Yeah. [0:01:38, 0:01:58]: All right. So we'll just uh so sp so sp to clarify the the motion we'll do we'll go into after we approve the meeting minutes of the agenda of the meeting minutes will go into the Georgia Tech uh market study approval and then the treasurer's report and then we'll proceed with the um agenda as [0:01:58, 0:02:01]: stated or just the Georgia Power Place reports. [0:02:03, 0:02:08]: Is that will that work for you, Barber? All right. Is there a second? [0:02:10, 0:02:11]: Okay. [0:02:13, 0:02:20]: All right, I think I heard from Samikwa and Bob at the same time. Any discussion on the agenda or any other changes? [0:02:23, 0:02:30]: All right, hearing none. So let's um let's uh by show of hands uh approval to change the agenda as stated. [0:02:31, 0:02:35]: I see Bobson Aqua Barber. [0:02:35, 0:02:43]: And Maxwell. All right, I think that's unanimous. Thank you, everyone. Councilman Alexander, okay. If you would like. Thank you. And Councilman Alexander. [0:02:45, 0:02:47]: I think he's under Alan Peterson's um [0:02:48, 0:02:48]: I D. [0:02:48, 0:02:49]: Oh, okay. [0:02:51, 0:02:52]: We can change that. [0:02:54, 0:02:57]: You can change that. Um All right. Let me let me do that. [0:03:07, 0:03:21]: All right. Let's move to the next item, which is to approve the meeting minutes for February 15th, which was shared, I believe it was shared with everyone on Sunday. So motion to approve the uh meeting minutes. [0:03:23, 0:03:26]: I'll go ahead and make the motion. Um, do we have a second? [0:03:26, 0:03:27]: Second. [0:03:27, 0:03:30]: Thank you, Bob. Any discussion? [0:03:33, 0:03:37]: All right. My show of hands to approve the meeting minutes from February 15th. [0:03:40, 0:03:47]: All right. Councilman Alexander, you froze, so I think that's if you could say yay or nay, please. [0:03:49, 0:04:09]: I see his hand. Okay, very good. Thank you. All right. So with the uh following into new business, so we have the Georgia Tech Market Study. I sent a note about this, I believe on Sunday. Um we as in our last meeting, the board approved a$4,000 [0:04:09, 0:04:29]: Ex uh really portion of the expense for the uh uh Georgia Tech to do a marketing analysis or market analysis for the downtown area. As I was signing it, I noticed the scope was limited to residential only. So following some clarification. [0:04:28, 0:04:48]: On the scope, we got a revised uh proposal for$5,000, not$4,000 to include commercial and retail in the analysis. Uh so um I'd like to make a uh motion that we approve the five thousand dollar expense. [0:04:48, 0:05:00]: to proceed with the uh market analysis. Um and uh thank you bob is there any discussion on the motion or any questions [0:05:05, 0:05:25]: All right, hearing none, we'll do by raise of hand uh a favor to approve the$5,000 expense for the market analysis, which we're to tech. I see Councilman Alexander's and everyone. Okay, it looks like it's unanimous. Thank you, everyone. I really appreciate your support on that. And we'll move next to the uh financial report. Uh Barber, did you know? [0:05:25, 0:05:28]: need me to queue this up or you or you want to go ahead and present? [0:05:28, 0:05:34]: Oh yes, I can present. Um do I have to you need me to print you access. [0:05:38, 0:05:38]: Yeah. [0:05:39, 0:05:41]: Or if you want to share it, that's fine if it's easier. [0:05:42, 0:05:45]: E e either way, are you able to or do I need to? [0:05:45, 0:05:47]: I don't have mm. [0:05:47, 0:05:50]: Let me uh let me straighten that out just a moment. [0:05:52, 0:05:53]: There we go. [0:05:59, 0:06:00]: To be labeled on my end. [0:06:01, 0:06:03]: Okay, you should be able to now. [0:06:12, 0:06:14]: Is my screen visible to everyone? [0:06:15, 0:06:26]: Yes. Okay, so for the month of February, um, we did have non-operating revenue for the month of 45,000. This is our 2021 council approved budget. [0:06:27, 0:06:32]: So that's our intergovernmental grant that we receive from the city. [0:06:32, 0:06:41]: Of which 25,000 of the 45 is allocated to the facade grant and 20,000 is allocated for operating expenses. [0:06:41, 0:06:43]: So that's where we get the forty five thousand from. [0:06:44, 0:06:50]: That was the only income we received for the month. As far as operating expenses, we had a$5. [0:06:50, 0:06:59]: bank fee uh which was for the incoming wire of the 45,000 and then our monthly forty dollar zoom expense. [0:07:00, 0:07:04]: So excuse me, total operating expenses,$45. [0:07:04, 0:07:11]: Which uh we end up for the month of net income of forty-four thousand nine hundred fifty-five dollars. [0:07:12, 0:07:14]: Any questions on the February? [0:07:15, 0:07:16]: Revenue or expense. [0:07:18, 0:07:19]: Okay. [0:07:22, 0:07:27]: Uh this brings our cash balance at the end of February for the facade grant. We now sit at [0:07:28, 0:07:32]: One hundred nineteen thousand nine hundred seven dollars and five cents. [0:07:33, 0:07:36]: In the operating account, we have fifty-nive thousand. [0:07:36, 0:07:38]: Fourteen dollars and eight cents. [0:07:39, 0:07:40]: Oh no, I can't do it. [0:07:45, 0:07:50]: For the month of February we had a oh Jesus, one second. [0:07:53, 0:08:11]: For those who don't know, Barber manages a CPA firm. So sorry, guys. Yeah. I apologize. I thought I was gone. Anyway, so um with the revenue and expenses that brings our a change in cash for us to the positive for the month. [0:08:11, 0:08:22]: So we show a net change in cash of$44,955. And again, this is just a breakdown of what came in, the$45,000, and what went out. [0:08:22, 0:08:23]: Uh for the month. [0:08:24, 0:08:26]: Any questions about? [0:08:27, 0:08:30]: our account balances or the activity for the month of February. [0:08:30, 0:08:34]: One thing I will note is right now we don't have any liabilities. [0:08:34, 0:08:54]: And obviously we are going to have the upcoming$5,000 expense that we just approved. So we'll see that reflected in the next month. And also not in this, but just kind of a precursor, I did send anyone everyone an email with some training, some in-person training that's coming up, VA training for 2022. [0:08:54, 0:09:04]: Um so it's possible that next month, you know, we may see at least have a discussion about uh incurring some training costs for current members. [0:09:05, 0:09:08]: That's it. That's all we have forward looking right now. [0:09:10, 0:09:11]: Any questions? [0:09:13, 0:09:15]: Okay, I will start sharing. [0:09:17, 0:09:37]: Very good. Um thank you, uh Barber. Um and I'd like to, you know, thank you for putting together the information on the training. And um I really do recommend, and then we've all we've all been through basic training. I believe we've all been through advanced training, but uh that's valuable information to get repeated. I think, you know, a lot of times it it it's kind of an intensive [0:09:37, 0:09:57]: course and and it helps once we've been serving on the board, I believe, to go through the training again. So I encourage everyone to sign up for it. I'll go ahead and mention that I've also uh I'm gonna be sending a link. I th I thought I did it before but I couldn't see where it was in my sent mail. Um our attorney McCray is offering some [0:09:56, 0:10:16]: um a training course which counts towards DDA training and I'll send that information following the meeting. Consider that as a supplement in addition to or as an alternate from the training courses that Barber has uh shared with the team. So um I encourage you to keep the uh keep the education going. [0:10:16, 0:10:36]: And uh with that, uh we are going to turn over to the uh our guest speaker for the evening. So we have with us um Sharon Russell and Mike Manzier with the uh Southern Company. Um I believe I might need to make Mike the host so that you can uh share your screen. [0:10:36, 0:10:39]: But let me turn let me turn it over to Sharon. Thank you. [0:10:40, 0:10:45]: Thank you, Roger. And good evening, everyone. I am Sharon Russell. [0:10:46, 0:10:56]: And I am the community development manager with Georgia Power, and I am one of 10 community development managers located geographically across the state of Georgia. [0:10:57, 0:11:03]: I support um five metro counties on the south side, which Henry County is being one. [0:11:03, 0:11:05]: As well as faith. [0:11:05, 0:11:09]: Clayton, Calwita, and South Fulton County. [0:11:09, 0:11:18]: So I wanna just extend a a thank you to Roger as well as to Alan for inviting us here this evening to go over some. [0:11:19, 0:11:23]: Um placer analysis, retail, um foot traffic. [0:11:23, 0:11:24]: data point. [0:11:25, 0:11:41]: And with Georgia Power, our main mission in the community and economic development space is job creation as well as capital investments for the communities. But we are also here to help make Georgia's communities better places to live and to do. [0:11:41, 0:11:42]: Business. [0:11:43, 0:11:48]: We assist with existing industry and expansions as well as retention. [0:11:49, 0:11:58]: And we also assist communities with asset development, real estate products, local leadership, and community and economic development strategies. [0:11:58, 0:12:03]: And to assist us with accomplishing those goals. [0:12:03, 0:12:16]: We have a host of researchers and Mike Manzer is a data scientist on our research team who are able to do deep dives into all types of analytics demographic data. [0:12:16, 0:12:28]: and um then be able to turn that data into usable information. So he is joining me tonight. We have a new um retail tool that we are using that [0:12:29, 0:12:46]: tracks and monitors retail foot traffic. And I'm going to turn it over to Mike to give us a little deeper dive into what the results look like and what it's telling us in regards to the footprint for your downtown Main Street development. [0:12:49, 0:12:50]: Thanks, Sean. [0:12:50, 0:12:53]: Um, like Sean said, I'm Mike Maynzer. Um [0:12:54, 0:12:59]: So for those of you don't know me, I work in the research department in community economic development for Georgia Power. [0:12:59, 0:13:02]: And let me share my screen here. [0:13:03, 0:13:03]: Um [0:13:04, 0:13:05]: So we can get started. [0:13:07, 0:13:09]: That's uh this one. [0:13:13, 0:13:13]: Okay. [0:13:14, 0:13:15]: Just give me a thumbs up if [0:13:15, 0:13:16]: Y'all can see that. [0:13:17, 0:13:19]: Can get started. Okay. So [0:13:20, 0:13:26]: Uh I know that a couple of months ago we prepared a report for some Placer information. So you may have that with you or you may have seen that. [0:13:27, 0:13:34]: Uh in the couple months since that was made though, Placer has gone through a a series of updates. So there's new features that they have. [0:13:34, 0:13:40]: um and also they update this data pretty much every day so i wanted to show some more recent figures for you so [0:13:41, 0:13:43]: Uh it doesn't follow that original presentation exactly. [0:13:43, 0:13:47]: uh if you have it alongside you. And um yeah, so I'll just get started right now. [0:13:48, 0:13:49]: So [0:13:49, 0:14:01]: First things first, just to let you know about who I am and what my group and research does for Georgia Power. Um, we help a lot on both the community development and the economic development side. Um [0:14:01, 0:14:05]: Either to help communities make themselves more marketable to [0:14:05, 0:14:06]: uh industries. [0:14:06, 0:14:12]: And to existing industries to to help them either expand or or locate somewhere in the state of Georgia. [0:14:12, 0:14:23]: So we get asked a lot of questions just really to deliver information. Um a lot of times it's centered around demographics and workforce. Uh what are the industries in my area, the top employers. [0:14:24, 0:14:25]: Um [0:14:25, 0:14:28]: You know, what's the job growth look like, etcetera, et cetera. [0:14:29, 0:14:35]: Uh, something that we've been more involved with since last fall is a lot of retail and foot traffic analysis. [0:14:35, 0:14:39]: And that's what I'll I'll be talking about today, uh, specifically in the the Stockbridge D D DA. [0:14:40, 0:14:41]: But for the [0:14:42, 0:14:45]: Tool that we use for that is a piece of software called Placer AI. [0:14:46, 0:14:50]: And I swear this is the last list of bullet points that I'll I'll drum out about. [0:14:50, 0:14:50]: Um [0:14:51, 0:14:54]: But what they are and and this is just important context to understand when I [0:14:55, 0:14:57]: We walk through some of these images and maps. [0:14:57, 0:15:01]: They're a software company that specializes in foot traffic and retail analysis. [0:15:01, 0:15:13]: And the reason that a lot of people are are starting to use this software company is because instead of just basing estimates off of government surveys that are, you know, years old in many cases. [0:15:13, 0:15:17]: Um, what Placer does is they purchase anonymized cell phone location data. [0:15:18, 0:15:24]: Um, so every time we open up the apps on our phone, they talk to each other, they package that information and they sell it to companies like Placer. [0:15:25, 0:15:27]: Um place our packages it into all of these ways. [0:15:28, 0:15:29]: And they sell it back. [0:15:29, 0:15:34]: uh to people to use to understand um specifically for placer [0:15:34, 0:15:35]: uh retail analysis. [0:15:36, 0:15:38]: So it deals with um [0:15:38, 0:15:48]: It divides individuals or really cell phones into three categories. You can isolate just your residents. So I want to see the people who live in my area, where are they going to work? [0:15:48, 0:15:50]: Um what places do they shop at? [0:15:51, 0:15:55]: Um, if I just want to look at people who visit my area, uh whether it is the shop. [0:15:56, 0:15:57]: Or any other reason that somebody might visit. [0:15:57, 0:16:01]: Or if you just want to isolate it to employees, like where are my workers coming from? [0:16:02, 0:16:07]: Um and they give you the the favorite places, the trade areas, customer segmentation. [0:16:07, 0:16:10]: Uh, we can do leakage reports and a million other things. So [0:16:11, 0:16:13]: Uh, that's the context. [0:16:13, 0:16:13]: For it. [0:16:14, 0:16:15]: And [0:16:15, 0:16:20]: right away if if we look at the D DA, so these are sort of like rough boundaries and [0:16:20, 0:16:21]: If we just sort of [0:16:22, 0:16:26]: Look at all of the retail locations that Placer has in their database that are around it. [0:16:27, 0:16:28]: Um [0:16:28, 0:16:31]: The most active places is right here. [0:16:31, 0:16:32]: On this corridor. [0:16:32, 0:16:34]: All right. If you were to isolate just like the [0:16:35, 0:16:46]: most heavily trafficked single location. It's Maze Crossing, which it it's somewhere around here in this corner. I mean other shopping centers around here. I believe there's a Walmart around here as well. [0:16:47, 0:16:55]: Um inside the DDA, a lot of foot traffic happens primarily at Stockbridge Lakes, where there's I believe there's a publics that's that's pretty busy a lot. [0:16:55, 0:17:00]: Um and also Bridge Village Convenience Center down here. So that's high level overview. [0:17:01, 0:17:03]: Um of foot traffic in the area. [0:17:03, 0:17:05]: And again, right now I'm I'm just talking about visitors. [0:17:06, 0:17:08]: So not necessarily residents or workers. [0:17:08, 0:17:10]: Uh I I'll get to that later. [0:17:11, 0:17:12]: Okay, so that's high level stuff. [0:17:12, 0:17:17]: If we look at over time, just kind of weekly visits, people coming into that boundary. [0:17:18, 0:17:18]: Um [0:17:19, 0:17:22]: And this should say March twenty twenty two. Sorry, I did not update that label. [0:17:23, 0:17:31]: Um, but you can see this sustained trend. Um, it's slightly downward. You have your your huge COVID dip, right? That that basically every community has. [0:17:32, 0:17:36]: Um and then you have some uptick in the summer. Um [0:17:36, 0:17:44]: but not quite at the same levels that you were experiencing before um COVID hit, uh, which is a a pretty [0:17:44, 0:17:49]: common challenge that a lot of communities are struggling with because people have changed their behaviors. [0:17:49, 0:17:50]: Um [0:17:50, 0:17:51]: Just go over this happen. [0:17:51, 0:17:52]: Right. [0:17:53, 0:17:53]: So [0:17:54, 0:17:59]: Um, this is just another way to view the same information. So if we're just looking at total visits in a month. [0:17:59, 0:18:06]: and compare it to the same month two years ago. So talking again before COVID. This is a a a common question that we get. [0:18:07, 0:18:08]: Um, it's generally down. [0:18:09, 0:18:10]: Compared to [0:18:10, 0:18:11]: Uh, two years prior. [0:18:12, 0:18:14]: Right. So it's really just the same information as this. [0:18:15, 0:18:21]: Um, if we want to look at so the people who are coming into Stockbridge for a visit and and [0:18:22, 0:18:30]: You know, the term visit is pretty broad. A lot of times it means they're going for retail, right? Like a lot of people are coming into the area to shop at that public and then going back home. [0:18:30, 0:18:32]: But you can look at the [0:18:33, 0:18:34]: Uh home location. [0:18:35, 0:18:40]: Of where your visitors live. So many of them live locally, like in that that 30281 zip code. [0:18:41, 0:18:45]: Um and then a lot, you know, down South Metro, McDonough. [0:18:45, 0:18:46]: Um then east as well. [0:18:47, 0:18:51]: So we can get that breakdown and I just show the top seven zip codes. [0:18:51, 0:18:52]: Um [0:18:52, 0:18:55]: But if you wanted to go further with this analysis, you know, we could break out. [0:18:55, 0:18:58]: So like the top one hundred zippos and and where they're coming from, although [0:18:59, 0:19:00]: That would be kind of overkill. [0:19:01, 0:19:02]: Um [0:19:02, 0:19:04]: Yeah, uh Roger, you had a question? [0:19:05, 0:19:12]: Yeah, well it it's a a specific one and then generally, do you want us to ask questions as you go through the presentation or hold to the end? [0:19:13, 0:19:17]: Yes, please interrupt me as much as you can. I'm more than welcome. [0:19:18, 0:19:28]: I'm I'm curious what this of how the data is derived as far as how do you know where the people come from or where the visitors come from. Is this from like credit card sales or something? [0:19:29, 0:19:37]: No, so what Placer does, and I I'll go back here. So when they divide their people into these three categories. [0:19:37, 0:19:40]: They do that and they have they have a whole bunch of [0:19:40, 0:19:45]: um kind of dry statistical analyses where they they tested these things. But [0:19:45, 0:19:50]: Um they look at the patterns of the movements of their phones. [0:19:50, 0:20:02]: And are able to determine if someone is going to a place simply because they work there, right? So if it's they'll look at a phone over a two-week period and if they're going to a place for a set number of hours and then leaving and doing that consistently. [0:20:02, 0:20:04]: They'll categorize them as an employee. [0:20:05, 0:20:06]: Um [0:20:06, 0:20:10]: However, if they're going to a place and they're kind of staying there, particularly during nighttime hours. [0:20:10, 0:20:11]: Um [0:20:11, 0:20:13]: It'll be the pattern of a resident. [0:20:13, 0:20:15]: But if they're just coming in. [0:20:15, 0:20:19]: staying fifteen minutes or a couple hours and then leaving. [0:20:19, 0:20:22]: they'll categorize them as a visitor. So that's how they come to that determination. [0:20:23, 0:20:23]: Thank you. [0:20:25, 0:20:25]: Yeah. [0:20:27, 0:20:32]: Okay. Um so here's here's you know, a lot of the visitors live pretty locally. [0:20:33, 0:20:35]: Um and you can see [0:20:35, 0:20:37]: They also track these cell phones on [0:20:38, 0:20:43]: highways and roads so you can see like how busy corridors are. So the brighter the red, the more [0:20:44, 0:20:45]: This is vehicle traffic. [0:20:46, 0:20:46]: Um [0:20:47, 0:21:01]: And you see that corridor. So we saw at the beginning all of those retail locations up here on that edge that are very, very busy. Um, a lot of traffic coming in both directions. Um, I'm just showing you the routes that people are taking to get into the area. [0:21:02, 0:21:05]: But we can also swap this and see what roads are people taking to get out. [0:21:06, 0:21:07]: Of the D DA. [0:21:07, 0:21:08]: Um [0:21:08, 0:21:10]: I didn't include that map because it's pretty much identical. [0:21:10, 0:21:13]: Um they they look pretty much exactly the same. [0:21:13, 0:21:14]: Um [0:21:15, 0:21:16]: So we can get that information and [0:21:17, 0:21:23]: If y'all go down this road and want to you it can get extremely detailed of like how many cars [0:21:24, 0:21:30]: were traveling from this red light to this red light uh between twelve pm and two pm last Tuesday. [0:21:30, 0:21:33]: Um so we can get very, very specific. [0:21:33, 0:21:36]: uh if you actually need something like that. [0:21:38, 0:21:39]: Right. So [0:21:39, 0:21:48]: Um again you can isolate those things about and now I'm going to talk about residents specifically. So before I was talking about visitors, but now if we're just talking about residents in the area. [0:21:49, 0:21:53]: Um, we can also see the the areas in which they live and work. [0:21:54, 0:21:54]: Um [0:21:55, 0:21:56]: So [0:21:56, 0:21:58]: The residence [0:21:59, 0:22:03]: work either you know you have a a hot spot here downtown in midtown Atlanta. [0:22:04, 0:22:05]: And then most are working locally. [0:22:05, 0:22:06]: Or down in a dunno. [0:22:07, 0:22:10]: All right. Um if you want to look at not your residence. [0:22:10, 0:22:13]: All right, so this is like a misnomer. But if you want to look at the people who work [0:22:14, 0:22:15]: inside the DDA. [0:22:15, 0:22:16]: Um [0:22:17, 0:22:28]: They live, it's it's kind of a larger spread, but it's still located pretty locally. All right. So if I were to zoom in, which I can't because this this portion isn't interactive, but you have a huge blob right there. [0:22:28, 0:22:30]: Um in your local area. [0:22:30, 0:22:31]: So your workforce [0:22:32, 0:22:32]: Very local. [0:22:34, 0:22:34]: Right. [0:22:35, 0:22:36]: Um [0:22:36, 0:22:45]: One of the things that we get asked for a lot, and I would say primarily, this is this is the number one request that we get asked for with this this placer information, which is. [0:22:45, 0:22:51]: Yeah, people want to know if if if I draw up a boundary, whether it's the DDA or the entire city limits or or what have you. [0:22:51, 0:22:59]: Um, they want to know what types of shopping experiences are our residents l consistently leaving our area. [0:23:00, 0:23:01]: To go towards. [0:23:01, 0:23:02]: Um [0:23:02, 0:23:05]: And Placer can do that. So you can show a spread on a map. [0:23:06, 0:23:08]: And again, I'm isolating this just to residents. [0:23:08, 0:23:10]: People who live inside that area. [0:23:11, 0:23:11]: And [0:23:12, 0:23:14]: You can look at their favorite places to shop. [0:23:14, 0:23:15]: And [0:23:15, 0:23:20]: These are their favorite places, the residents' favorite places to shop, or the places they most commonly go to. [0:23:20, 0:23:21]: Um [0:23:21, 0:23:25]: Irregardless of any category. Uh yeah, Roger, c uh question. [0:23:26, 0:23:35]: When we're looking at residents as defined in this analysis, these are these are people who that live inside the downtown district. [0:23:36, 0:23:38]: Yeah, as as placers. [0:23:38, 0:23:39]: Categorizing them, yes. [0:23:39, 0:23:40]: Okay. [0:23:41, 0:23:42]: Yeah. Inside this [0:23:43, 0:23:58]: Yeah, and and I guess just it might might help you. I mean, in terms of looking at it, um, you know, the downtown district doesn't have a lot of residential. So it's it it I don't know whether that skews the results, you know, in in looking at it from this perspective. [0:23:59, 0:24:10]: Yeah, it might. So like you can see right away that your your total visitors are not huge, right? So like 333 residents go to the Walmart, which makes sense, right? Um [0:24:11, 0:24:11]: So [0:24:12, 0:24:16]: That being said, since it doesn't skew hugely like a residential area. [0:24:16, 0:24:17]: Um [0:24:17, 0:24:18]: Again, this [0:24:20, 0:24:28]: This presentation really is built to more to kind of demonstrate the kind of information that we can deliver you. So as you go down the road of like any specific challenges that you have. [0:24:28, 0:24:43]: We could do the same thing for you know visitors in the area or um employees in the area. We could expand this to like a five mile radius and do the same thing to see like, hey, what types of retail opportunities. [0:24:43, 0:24:46]: Are people going way over here for? [0:24:46, 0:24:49]: Which they might be able to do inside here. [0:24:50, 0:24:51]: Right. Um [0:24:51, 0:24:58]: So that that's a obviously a very important thing to keep in mind if it's not usually residential. So I would just look at this more as a demonstration and [0:24:59, 0:25:06]: we could use this and switch it to visitors or employees or change your geography to also get a better idea. [0:25:06, 0:25:07]: Right. [0:25:08, 0:25:10]: Uh but to demonstrate that, you know. [0:25:11, 0:25:12]: The places where they they shop. [0:25:13, 0:25:14]: You can see that list. [0:25:14, 0:25:25]: But if we're just using this as an example, you can go further and you can isolate that to specific categories. So you can see like where are people going to get groceries? [0:25:25, 0:25:36]: Um, where are they going to eat? And you can even isolate that from there. Like what are the fast food options in the area versus the full service dining restaurants in the area? [0:25:36, 0:25:37]: Um [0:25:38, 0:25:40]: So you you can do all of that information. [0:25:41, 0:25:41]: Um [0:25:43, 0:25:51]: This is something that we also get a lot of look for. So, what is the difference between supply and demand for a particular industry? [0:25:51, 0:25:54]: Um, and this is an example of using a larger geography. [0:25:55, 0:25:58]: Uh so instead of looking just at the area or just at residence. [0:25:59, 0:26:04]: Right now what I'm doing is I'm looking at the residents in these three rings. [0:26:04, 0:26:06]: So I'm looking at the residents in this one mile area. [0:26:06, 0:26:09]: residents in this three mile area and in the larger five mile area. [0:26:10, 0:26:11]: And [0:26:11, 0:26:12]: What Placer can do in [0:26:13, 0:26:16]: I hope you can see this. I I had to make it kind of small to squeeze them in. [0:26:17, 0:26:17]: But [0:26:18, 0:26:19]: What it can do is it can [0:26:20, 0:26:27]: Look at the spending patterns of the people in those areas and then also give you an estimate of the [0:26:27, 0:26:29]: businesses and the retail options in those areas. [0:26:30, 0:26:34]: And come up with an estimate of the demand for particular. [0:26:35, 0:26:39]: industries or products um and compare it to the the existing supply. [0:26:40, 0:26:44]: Um and see if you have any unmet demand or if you're oversupplied on something. [0:26:44, 0:26:47]: And I just pulled three different categories, right? [0:26:48, 0:26:48]: Um [0:26:49, 0:26:56]: And I apologize off the bat, this column is the one mile area, this is the three mile area, this is the five mile area, right? [0:26:56, 0:26:58]: So you can see that there's [0:26:59, 0:27:00]: Sorry about that. [0:27:01, 0:27:02]: You can see in that [0:27:03, 0:27:08]: really in all three of these areas, there is an unmet demand for, you know, groceries. [0:27:08, 0:27:11]: There's an unmet demand for full service restaurants. [0:27:11, 0:27:15]: However, when it comes to building material and supply dealers. [0:27:16, 0:27:16]: Um [0:27:17, 0:27:20]: you know, according to Placer, you're you're oversupplied, right? [0:27:20, 0:27:21]: На досторс. [0:27:22, 0:27:23]: Probably [0:27:23, 0:27:26]: Use a much larger geography, anyways. [0:27:26, 0:27:27]: Right. [0:27:27, 0:27:28]: Um [0:27:29, 0:27:30]: I think these are like [0:27:31, 0:27:32]: wholesale dealers for [0:27:33, 0:27:35]: the lows and home depots of the world. Um [0:27:36, 0:27:38]: So this kind of makes sense. [0:27:38, 0:27:40]: But you can do that for [0:27:41, 0:27:43]: I think there's like 30 different categories. [0:27:43, 0:27:48]: that you can identify where there's unmet demand. And right here there's just two of them. [0:27:49, 0:27:51]: In these three rings, um [0:27:51, 0:27:56]: So unmet demand for groceries, unmet demand for full service restaurants at all levels of geography. [0:27:57, 0:27:57]: Right. [0:27:59, 0:28:00]: I'll keep going here. So [0:28:01, 0:28:08]: Another thing we can do is, you know, I mentioned at the beginning that when we talk about the busiest place inside. [0:28:08, 0:28:09]: Um [0:28:09, 0:28:11]: The DDA inside those boundaries. [0:28:11, 0:28:18]: Um, the busiest place in terms of daily foot traffic or monthly foot traffic rather, uh, is that Stockbridge Lakes. [0:28:18, 0:28:19]: Shopping center. [0:28:19, 0:28:21]: Uh I believe it's like the north. [0:28:21, 0:28:22]: the northern edge. [0:28:23, 0:28:24]: Of that boundary. [0:28:24, 0:28:28]: And what you can do is you can look at the individual tenants. [0:28:29, 0:28:33]: I'm not super familiar with the shopping center, but Placer recognizes two of those tenants. [0:28:34, 0:28:35]: And [0:28:35, 0:28:37]: Both the publics and this car service shop. [0:28:38, 0:28:42]: um are extremely popular within their chain. [0:28:42, 0:28:45]: Um both locally, both nationally and within the state. [0:28:46, 0:28:49]: So if you if you look at this of the publics within Stockbridge Lakes. [0:28:50, 0:28:55]: um is within the 75th percentile of all publics in the country. [0:28:55, 0:29:02]: Right, which means there's more traffic going on at that public's than seventy five percent of all other publics in the nation. [0:29:03, 0:29:13]: All right. Um it's in the 85th percentile within Georgia. So again, that publics has more foot traffic at it than 85% of all publics within the state of Georgia. [0:29:13, 0:29:14]: Um [0:29:15, 0:29:16]: And [0:29:18, 0:29:20]: Or no, sorry. So it's seventy eight percent. [0:29:20, 0:29:22]: Of all publics. [0:29:22, 0:29:27]: It is more popular than eighty five percent of all grocery stores in the state of Georgia. [0:29:27, 0:29:28]: Um [0:29:28, 0:29:31]: So lots of traffic happening there and that kind of that that [0:29:32, 0:29:40]: Drives with what they estimate here is that there's you know unmet demand for grocery stores. So, like if you have one grocery store that's really, really popular in that area. [0:29:40, 0:29:41]: Um [0:29:41, 0:29:45]: It may signify that, you know, there's a need for maybe another grocery store. [0:29:46, 0:29:54]: All right. So Publix doing very well. Um, as well as I've never heard of um American Lube Fast, but they're also very, very popular. And there's lots of them too. [0:29:55, 0:29:56]: Um okay. [0:29:57, 0:29:57]: So [0:29:58, 0:29:59]: Well, thirty six. [0:30:00, 0:30:10]: So we can do that type of information really for any shopping center that you have either in the DDA or if you wanted to look at one outside of the DDA, you could do this same information. [0:30:10, 0:30:11]: Um [0:30:11, 0:30:21]: And use all of this stuff to kind of get of like, you know, what are our strengths, what are things that are or or potential opportunities based on the the habits of our visitors, et cetera. [0:30:22, 0:30:23]: Um [0:30:24, 0:30:25]: So we have that that ranking there. [0:30:26, 0:30:27]: And [0:30:27, 0:30:28]: We can also [0:30:29, 0:30:30]: Look at [0:30:30, 0:30:36]: So Placer also collects information about where current projects are in development, so construction projects. [0:30:37, 0:30:38]: As [0:30:38, 0:30:40]: You know, this I I just [0:30:40, 0:30:41]: Put this blob. [0:30:41, 0:30:45]: around the DDA so it's kind of hidden behind that orange thing. [0:30:46, 0:30:51]: But you can see sort of in the more immediate vicinity. So I think this is like within uh 15 miles, 10 to 15 miles. [0:30:52, 0:30:55]: You can see all of the construction projects that are in their various phases. [0:30:56, 0:31:00]: Um, so the ones that have recently been completed are these little gray. [0:31:00, 0:31:00]: Bubbles? [0:31:01, 0:31:01]: Um [0:31:02, 0:31:05]: The ones that are on hold or have been canceled are the little red ones. So there's only a couple of them. [0:31:06, 0:31:09]: Um, there are a lot of planned construction that's happening. [0:31:10, 0:31:13]: And there's quite a few current as well. Uh yes, Roger. [0:31:13, 0:31:19]: Does this include any kind of construction or specifically residential or certain type? [0:31:20, 0:31:26]: So that's a great question. So we can isolate that to any type. Um and I can actually [0:31:26, 0:31:27]: Show you the [0:31:28, 0:31:30]: Can use the interactive version here. [0:31:32, 0:31:33]: Well, you haven't. [0:31:34, 0:31:36]: Let's see area analysis. [0:31:43, 0:31:45]: Usually I I like doing the PDF because [0:31:45, 0:31:48]: You can see more because I don't know what screens people are on. [0:31:49, 0:31:49]: Um [0:31:50, 0:31:50]: But [0:31:51, 0:31:52]: Let me [0:31:53, 0:31:57]: Yeah, I can't make that full screen. So hopefully you can see this, but if I want to do the interactive version. [0:31:59, 0:32:01]: You can isolate this to various categories. [0:32:01, 0:32:05]: So like you said, you can isolate this to just residential planning projects. [0:32:07, 0:32:12]: So right here, here's your residential stuff. So a lot of planned projects happening like west of McDonough. [0:32:12, 0:32:14]: Lot of apartments, mixed use stuff. [0:32:15, 0:32:15]: Uh [0:32:16, 0:32:18]: Lots of stuff going on right around here. [0:32:19, 0:32:19]: Okay. [0:32:20, 0:32:20]: Um [0:32:21, 0:32:25]: I don't know the exact distance. I don't have my draw tools on here. [0:32:25, 0:32:26]: But again [0:32:27, 0:32:30]: got a lot of residents coming into to that northwest McDonough area. [0:32:31, 0:32:31]: Um [0:32:32, 0:32:37]: So that that's good information to have if they're building that much down there. But you can also idle isolate it to [0:32:38, 0:32:39]: Um [0:32:39, 0:32:40]: You know, hotels. [0:32:41, 0:32:46]: You can see not a lot of lot going in the way of hotels, but then retail is the biggest one that they they track. [0:32:46, 0:32:47]: Um [0:32:48, 0:32:49]: We're close. There's a [0:32:50, 0:32:53]: Just like a retail office that doesn't have a name yet. [0:32:53, 0:32:56]: Northwest of you, there's a convenience store that is unnamed. [0:32:56, 0:33:00]: So a lot of these things that are in the planning stages will be unnamed because [0:33:00, 0:33:02]: Whoever's developing it may not. [0:33:02, 0:33:04]: want it to be known yet that they're they're building something. [0:33:05, 0:33:06]: Um [0:33:07, 0:33:09]: If something just completed, there was the a dollar tree. [0:33:10, 0:33:13]: Old Kellytown Road publics or another publics. [0:33:13, 0:33:16]: Right. So we we can get all that information as well. [0:33:16, 0:33:16]: Um [0:33:17, 0:33:18]: So we have that also. [0:33:20, 0:33:21]: Go back to this guy. [0:33:22, 0:33:22]: Nope. [0:33:25, 0:33:26]: That one. Okay. [0:33:26, 0:33:27]: Um [0:33:28, 0:33:30]: So really to summarize and [0:33:30, 0:33:32]: You know, I I I try and keep it [0:33:32, 0:33:34]: Simple two examples because [0:33:35, 0:33:42]: Um, a Sharon can attest. Like, this is a rabbit hole that you could go down for like days. I mean, you could get lost in there forever. There's so much information. [0:33:43, 0:33:50]: So usually with these presentations, we like first to kind of demonstrate the potential of the tool, what type of information that it has. [0:33:50, 0:33:53]: And then it's really best suited when [0:33:54, 0:33:58]: You know, you start thinking of planning for your community. Um [0:33:58, 0:34:05]: Coming at this with sort of very specific questions in mind. And then we can get really down into the details. [0:34:06, 0:34:07]: Um [0:34:07, 0:34:11]: to be a bit more targeted in what types of data we deliver to you. [0:34:11, 0:34:11]: All right. [0:34:12, 0:34:14]: Um so again to put it in summary. [0:34:15, 0:34:21]: Very broadly, we use place where I AI can analyze the movements of populations, specifically residents, workers, or visitors. [0:34:22, 0:34:22]: Um [0:34:23, 0:34:26]: And then there's also, you know, potential opportunities for retail. [0:34:26, 0:34:27]: So you could combine [0:34:27, 0:34:30]: All these reports like that leakage analysis. [0:34:30, 0:34:31]: With that. [0:34:31, 0:34:36]: Market outlook combined with all of that residential development that's happening just south of you. [0:34:37, 0:34:44]: Um, all those things combined could be like a a a case for um attracting certain types of businesses. [0:34:44, 0:34:46]: Um to the DDA. [0:34:46, 0:34:47]: Right. So [0:34:48, 0:34:50]: That's Placer. That's how we use Placer. [0:34:50, 0:34:51]: And [0:34:51, 0:34:56]: Yeah, I mean if anybody has any questions, I've got it up so we can we can poke around. If you have questions I can [0:34:57, 0:34:58]: Try and answer them. [0:34:58, 0:34:59]: Um [0:34:59, 0:35:01]: Live, whatever y'all want to do. [0:35:04, 0:35:24]: Thank you, Mike. Anyone uh for me this is very exciting stuff. So I guess my my first question would be if we did want to take a deeper look at this and maybe even have a work session, is that a a service? I mean, is that something y'all would be available to us or any member of the DDA to to work with you and get more information about this? [0:35:24, 0:35:25]: Yeah. [0:35:25, 0:35:26]: Yeah. [0:35:26, 0:35:27]: Absolutely. [0:35:28, 0:35:35]: Just let us know um, you know, when we can get together, we can schedule something, and then you know, talk through the next steps and what we're looking for. [0:35:36, 0:35:56]: All right. And I guess the other thing I'll mention, and you heard the vote earlier, we've been engaging the uh Georgia Tech uh Innovation Institute. And um, you know, they were interested in seeing the Placer reports before, you know, well as we were working with them. So I know as they as we um now that we've got an approval to proceed, um, they may, you know. [0:35:56, 0:36:11]: I don't know whether they have direct access to this, or this is specifically with uh you know Southern Company or Georgia Power. Uh but if if they don't have direct access, they may ask for you know more detailed information as they as they as they prepare the analysis for the DDA. [0:36:14, 0:36:26]: Yeah, we we work with Georgia Tech a lot. We partner with them on a lot of different projects. Um a lot of people in our group are Georgia Tech alums. So you know, whatever whatever their process is, if they if they need to partner with somebody, uh [0:36:27, 0:36:30]: You know, definitely tell them to reach out to us. [0:36:30, 0:36:37]: Just provide provide our contact information or my name and then we can go from there and I can connect the dots what they need. [0:36:38, 0:36:40]: Excellent. Uh Lisa, I see you have your hand up. [0:36:42, 0:36:44]: Hi everyone. Um [0:36:44, 0:36:48]: Sharon and Michael, I just wanted to thank you. Um [0:36:48, 0:36:53]: I'm here tonight as a representative of the Main Street program here in Stockbridge. [0:36:54, 0:36:56]: And I thought this presentation was excellent. [0:36:57, 0:37:04]: Um, you know, we live in the community and lots of times we kind of think we know what our patterns are and what our neighbors are doing. [0:37:04, 0:37:05]: Um [0:37:06, 0:37:11]: But it's nice to get a digital impression and to realize. [0:37:11, 0:37:16]: The publics down the street from City Hall is one of the most public uh [0:37:17, 0:37:19]: I'd say popular publics. [0:37:19, 0:37:24]: In the state as well as the country based on what you've just described? [0:37:24, 0:37:30]: And the little um automotive shop, it's got a different name now and it's under different ownership. [0:37:31, 0:37:31]: Um [0:37:31, 0:37:35]: But that guy happens to be my mechanic. Um [0:37:35, 0:37:41]: Kui fun and he is excellent. And I think that's why his spot is so very popular. [0:37:42, 0:37:45]: Um, but of course, you know, we are trying to get. [0:37:45, 0:37:46]: Um [0:37:46, 0:37:51]: More activity in the heart of downtown, which is a couple blocks down. [0:37:52, 0:37:54]: Um in our historian [0:37:54, 0:38:13]: Our historic commercial district. And there is a grocery store there, but it's very old and it's very niche to like the old neighbors that have been here for like a hundred years. So, you know, it's interesting to see how we can maybe. [0:38:13, 0:38:17]: Persuade some of this population to move in that direction. [0:38:18, 0:38:19]: Thank you both. [0:38:19, 0:38:19]: Mm-hmm. [0:38:20, 0:38:21]: Glad to help. [0:38:23, 0:38:25]: Any other questions for um [0:38:26, 0:38:27]: For my course run. [0:38:28, 0:38:28]: Yes. [0:38:30, 0:38:31]: Go ahead, councilman. [0:38:32, 0:38:38]: Yeah, thank you all so much uh uh for for this presentation. It really was very informative. [0:38:38, 0:38:41]: And understand that from my side. [0:38:41, 0:38:50]: uh the you know we're looking for the sales pitch or the approach to potential businesses coming into the area so [0:38:50, 0:39:01]: If these numbers that you presented to us, they certainly do offer that to us and that the public's is a super draw in terms of foot traffic and [0:39:02, 0:39:03]: Uh I'm not sure. [0:39:04, 0:39:05]: If anybody [0:39:05, 0:39:10]: If I realize that, I'm not sure if anybody I know the public's was busy, but I did not know that [0:39:10, 0:39:13]: It would rank in the seventy five percentile. [0:39:13, 0:39:15]: uh so to speak in that [0:39:15, 0:39:16]: Um [0:39:16, 0:39:18]: It would be such a draw. [0:39:18, 0:39:22]: And I think the overall emphasis for us is the entire area. [0:39:22, 0:39:27]: So to understand that this area is doing well, it's an indicator. [0:39:27, 0:39:30]: Of what the people will support. [0:39:30, 0:39:31]: And I think uh [0:39:32, 0:39:34]: You know, Publix is not a discount brand. [0:39:34, 0:39:39]: You would think that between the two grocery stores with Food Depot being the discount brand, [0:39:39, 0:39:42]: And Publix being a a premium brand. [0:39:42, 0:39:44]: You might even think that. [0:39:44, 0:40:00]: those numbers might be different, but they're not. What they're clearly telling you is that there is a greater demand for quality uh in this area uh that Publix is offering. And uh we could basically work off of that uh to have uh [0:40:00, 0:40:04]: Tenants in that shopping center and the surrounding area realize [0:40:05, 0:40:12]: That uh there's an undead or unmet demand. And I noticed that uh again, it's not easy, it's easy for us to see. [0:40:13, 0:40:15]: That there is a unmet demand. [0:40:15, 0:40:21]: uh in terms of uh restaurants. It would be interesting to do these numbers to see [0:40:22, 0:40:24]: Uh you know, in overall [0:40:24, 0:40:33]: Uh regional spread, whereas we have an unmet demand in fine restaurants and uh quality shopping. [0:40:33, 0:40:35]: uh in the area in terms of um [0:40:36, 0:40:38]: Gar in terms of uh clothing and [0:40:39, 0:40:41]: And so to speak. So it'd be good to see [0:40:42, 0:40:46]: Exactly. And I know I've already seen it. I think most of us already know that there's a [0:40:47, 0:40:50]: There's uh millions of dollars if not a billion dollars. [0:40:50, 0:40:52]: Leaving this area. [0:40:52, 0:40:53]: To pursue. [0:40:54, 0:40:57]: uh fine restaurants and dining and um [0:40:58, 0:40:58]: Shopping. [0:40:59, 0:41:00]: And those are and entertainment. [0:41:01, 0:41:02]: For uh so to speak. [0:41:02, 0:41:05]: And I know these numbers certainly will be changing. [0:41:06, 0:41:08]: With the amphitheater in downtown with uh [0:41:08, 0:41:12]: That that that should be a a secondary uh another major draw. [0:41:13, 0:41:14]: Whereas the public's [0:41:14, 0:41:16]: itself is a daily draw. [0:41:16, 0:41:20]: So I just want to thank you for that. And then that my question in all of that was [0:41:21, 0:41:23]: uh ру to be able to do this. [0:41:23, 0:41:26]: uh in a regional type situation is see [0:41:26, 0:41:32]: when uh Stockbridge residents or Henry County residents in general are leaving where they're going. [0:41:35, 0:41:44]: So I think we do have some limitations on the um the geographic territory. Mike, you have to correct me if I'm wrong. So [0:41:45, 0:41:47]: What's the mile radius that we could actually? [0:41:49, 0:41:50]: In common. [0:41:50, 0:41:52]: total, how far reach could we go? [0:41:55, 0:41:57]: Well, I mean you can go pretty far, but [0:41:59, 0:42:05]: You know, the struggle is you you don't actually want to go too far. You don't want too big of an area because once you get further and further closer to like [0:42:06, 0:42:08]: You have downtown and [0:42:08, 0:42:13]: You know, eventually you get to like College Park, then you get to like city limits of Atlanta. The further you get there, [0:42:13, 0:42:14]: Um [0:42:15, 0:42:16]: You're starting to [0:42:17, 0:42:28]: It it muddies the waters so much because you're including so many people from so many areas. It's tough to know, like, are they actually coming anywhere towards Stockbridge anyways? It all just kind of gets lumped together. [0:42:29, 0:42:30]: Uh [0:42:30, 0:42:30]: [2551.0, 2552.7]: But we can slice it and dice it pretty much. [0:42:33, 0:42:37]: Any way you want. Uh there there are some some creative ways to approach [0:42:37, 0:42:39]: Um any solution. [0:42:40, 0:42:42]: I think for our standpoint is that [0:42:42, 0:42:46]: It it would be in reverse. It wasn't be the residents that are coming to Stockbridge. [0:42:47, 0:42:49]: It would be where are our residents going? [0:42:50, 0:42:52]: Because our residents are going [0:42:52, 0:42:53]: Places for [0:42:53, 0:42:54]: Fine dining. [0:42:55, 0:42:57]: better shopping options and entertainment so [0:42:58, 0:43:00]: The goal would be to see where [0:43:00, 0:43:03]: When people leave Henry County or Stockbridge. [0:43:03, 0:43:08]: where they're going, not versus someone coming in, because we need [0:43:08, 0:43:09]: Those needs met. [0:43:10, 0:43:13]: And the attempt is to show these businesses. [0:43:13, 0:43:14]: How many? [0:43:14, 0:43:17]: People are leaving these com leaving our community. [0:43:18, 0:43:20]: uh to pursue the entertainment [0:43:20, 0:43:21]: Uh, the shopping. [0:43:22, 0:43:23]: Uh and the fine dining. [0:43:24, 0:43:36]: And to say, okay, look at this percentage of of residents that d that and the unmet demand that are just taking millions of dollars out of this community. [0:43:38, 0:43:39]: Yeah, um [0:43:39, 0:43:44]: Sorry, I I guess I I misunderstood your initial question, but yeah, we could do exactly that. So for example [0:43:45, 0:43:56]: You know, maybe the the the DDA boundaries itself might be too limiting because there isn't a ton of residential in there. But we could do this same type of thing, right? So this is asking the question, where do our residents eat? [0:43:57, 0:44:01]: But you'll see there's so there's so few of them to begin with that this might not be relevant information. [0:44:02, 0:44:04]: We could expand this to [0:44:05, 0:44:13]: But we could play around with it. I I I I think the city limits of Stockbridge might be too large for Placer, but you could definitely put a bigger area around that. [0:44:13, 0:44:27]: Um and you can also isolate this to like right here. I I I included all the fast food restaurants. Um, but I could include it to you know fine dining full service restaurants and do the same thing. So yeah, you're exactly right. We can do that. [0:44:27, 0:44:30]: Yeah, that that would be extremely helpful when we um [0:44:31, 0:44:33]: We're talking to potential business. [0:44:33, 0:44:37]: uh prospects and we can show them this data. [0:44:37, 0:44:46]: And then uh of course I'm certainly gonna start using that public data immediately when I'm talking to prospects because uh again. [0:44:46, 0:44:47]: It relates to [0:44:48, 0:44:52]: uh what they're doing and then these numbers are compared to other public [0:44:52, 0:44:54]: uh in the nation because I would have thought [0:44:54, 0:44:57]: The the Eagles Landing Parkway. [0:44:57, 0:45:00]: What the it may not have been in the study area would have been [0:45:01, 0:45:11]: uh would have been in there. And it may very well be because it I guess it wasn't you were looking at the downtown uh boundary area, but that number is a whopping number. Yeah. [0:45:13, 0:45:13]: Yeah. [0:45:15, 0:45:18]: But I think we have a question somewhere. I can't remember where the ham was. [0:45:18, 0:45:20]: Lisa, I think Lisa. [0:45:20, 0:45:20]: Yeah. [0:45:21, 0:45:22]: Hi again, thank you. [0:45:23, 0:45:23]: Um [0:45:24, 0:45:27]: Well, I guess my mind is going through a a lot of different thoughts, but um [0:45:28, 0:45:31]: I wanted to talk about the public's plaza for a moment. So [0:45:32, 0:45:32]: Um [0:45:33, 0:45:36]: Is if if I'm understanding what you've presented. [0:45:36, 0:45:38]: And and your um language behind it. [0:45:39, 0:45:43]: Publix is popular because it's kind of the only game in town. [0:45:44, 0:45:47]: Am I right about that? I mean, we know that we've got a food depot. [0:45:48, 0:45:53]: um a couple of miles away, really just down the road, about two minutes, but um [0:45:54, 0:46:01]: It like I said, it's kind of niche and it's very old. So if someone wanted a modern supermarket, [0:46:01, 0:46:04]: Um with a fresh look, they would go to publics. [0:46:04, 0:46:05]: Um [0:46:05, 0:46:06]: I [0:46:06, 0:46:08]: I'd say that to say [0:46:08, 0:46:12]: Um we were considering in in the main street district. [0:46:12, 0:46:14]: Seeing if we could get [0:46:14, 0:46:20]: Food depot to do some updates to its current store. That happens to be their flagship store. [0:46:20, 0:46:21]: Um [0:46:21, 0:46:25]: And a lot of their other stores are newer and in better condition. [0:46:25, 0:46:26]: Um [0:46:26, 0:46:27]: But [0:46:27, 0:46:29]: I think that maybe. [0:46:30, 0:46:33]: Publix is the only game in town for someone who wants. [0:46:33, 0:46:36]: a little bit more of modern shopping. [0:46:36, 0:46:38]: That being said. [0:46:38, 0:46:38]: Um [0:46:39, 0:46:42]: The public's plaza is not necessarily the best place to. [0:46:43, 0:46:49]: Fill in the real estate. Um, there are lots of suites there that have been empty for quite some time. [0:46:49, 0:46:52]: Um, and we have done the Main Street program. [0:46:52, 0:46:55]: Has been involved with some of the tenants there. [0:46:56, 0:47:00]: There was a s a business that opened a couple of years ago. [0:47:00, 0:47:02]: That was similar to um [0:47:03, 0:47:05]: Oh gosh, I guess like a five below. [0:47:06, 0:47:11]: Um, but it did not do very well in that location and the rent was extremely high. [0:47:12, 0:47:12]: Um [0:47:12, 0:47:14]: There was um [0:47:14, 0:47:20]: A gym, a fitness center that was there, very nice, very new. [0:47:20, 0:47:25]: Um, but it did not do very well there. There was a restaurant up at the front end. [0:47:25, 0:47:30]: Several years ago, it did not do well. There's a new restaurant in that space. [0:47:30, 0:47:32]: As of about a year ago. [0:47:32, 0:47:34]: I don't see a lot of cars in the front there. [0:47:34, 0:47:38]: So people are coming there to get groceries and go home. [0:47:39, 0:47:41]: Oh, and get their cars worked on. And that's about it. [0:47:43, 0:47:50]: Do you have any um insight in regards to the issues? Do you you have any underlying data as to what to why? [0:47:51, 0:47:53]: It nothing really does well there. [0:47:54, 0:47:55]: Is it the area, the [0:47:56, 0:47:58]: Yes, um so [0:47:59, 0:48:05]: The Main Street program has a partnership with the local Small Business Development Center at Clayton State University. [0:48:06, 0:48:08]: And we've asked [0:48:08, 0:48:12]: Our colleague there to work with um [0:48:12, 0:48:15]: Some of the business owners that we just mentioned. [0:48:15, 0:48:22]: Um, and of course, I I don't know a lot of their data that only SBDC would be privy to. [0:48:22, 0:48:30]: Um, but basically those businesses were not necessarily the best suited to be in that particular suite. [0:48:31, 0:48:35]: Especially because um I guess for the five below guy. [0:48:35, 0:48:37]: Um, he thought if people were [0:48:37, 0:48:41]: Going into publics that they put their groceries away and then come and shop with him. [0:48:42, 0:48:46]: But some of the items he was selling they sell it publics. [0:48:46, 0:48:50]: And it was more convenient for them to just buy it while they were in publics. [0:48:51, 0:48:51]: Um [0:48:52, 0:49:04]: And I think, you know, people were people hardly noticed it. You know, we had him put balloons out. We had him do all these different things and they're like, yo, I'm going to get my milk and bread and my pharmacy items and I'm getting back in the car. [0:49:04, 0:49:08]: And that was it. You know, there just wasn't a lot of um [0:49:08, 0:49:13]: activity there's a nail shop that's been there for a long time um a [0:49:13, 0:49:15]: Chinese takeout. [0:49:15, 0:49:16]: Um a hair cuttery. [0:49:17, 0:49:20]: А популярна чай. [0:49:20, 0:49:22]: And a dry cleaner. Those are the only [0:49:23, 0:49:27]: Businesses that have been mainstays in that plaza. [0:49:27, 0:49:32]: All the rest, um, it's either empty or it cycles out within a couple of months. [0:49:34, 0:49:36]: You know one thing I'll say. [0:49:36, 0:49:48]: Sorry about that. One thing I'll say about that shopping center specifically is again, you know, Placer only recognizes those two locations as chains that it has information on. [0:49:48, 0:50:00]: However, if if y'all have like a site map of it where you you know the the individual, the other chains that are in the locations and also which locations are currently um like vacant. [0:50:01, 0:50:02]: What we can do is we can number one. [0:50:03, 0:50:10]: Upload that to Placer and then they can track the information to all of your other chains, not just those two. So they could isolate every single one. [0:50:11, 0:50:13]: But then the other one thing that they can do is um [0:50:14, 0:50:16]: Placer has a product called void analysis. [0:50:17, 0:50:23]: Where what it will do is it will look at the demographics of the the customers going to that shopping center. [0:50:23, 0:50:26]: They'll look at the current tenants in the shopping center, in this case the Publix. [0:50:27, 0:50:31]: And uh look at the square footage of space you have available in any [0:50:32, 0:50:34]: Of of your other tenants if there's vacants. [0:50:34, 0:50:35]: Vacancies. [0:50:35, 0:50:36]: Um [0:50:37, 0:50:48]: And they'll look at every chain across America that they track stuff with and find similar chains and sort of give you a ranking of like which ones they think would actually work at this location based on all that information. [0:50:48, 0:50:51]: Um so we could do that as like a starting point. [0:50:51, 0:50:57]: Of saying like, hey, these types of businesses might be good ones to target, um, to convince to come in. [0:50:58, 0:51:02]: to this shopping center. So that's something that we could do. We would just need a a bit more detailed information. [0:51:04, 0:51:05]: Sir. [0:51:05, 0:51:06]: Thank you. [0:51:07, 0:51:08]: Oh I just [0:51:09, 0:51:11]: Let let me just say this. [0:51:11, 0:51:14]: I think exactly what we just heard is [0:51:15, 0:51:17]: The dollar the dollar store didn't work. [0:51:17, 0:51:19]: I'm not surprised. [0:51:19, 0:51:23]: They're next to Publix, which is a quality retailer. [0:51:23, 0:51:40]: And you're gonna buy you're gonna go to Publix, a quality retailer and buy cheap stuff next door, you're not gonna do that. You're gonna you if you look in their publix, public shoppers are looking for quality. And when quality businesses locate in Stockbridge Lakes, they will do well. [0:51:41, 0:51:50]: If you open up a nice ice cream shop there, you open up a business, but you're gonna have to do it right because that public shopper is distinguishing. [0:51:51, 0:51:55]: That's why those other businesses may not have succeeded. But in the end. [0:51:56, 0:51:57]: My job is to [0:51:57, 0:51:59]: Is to present [0:52:00, 0:52:01]: The glass half full. [0:52:02, 0:52:03]: And to present [0:52:03, 0:52:19]: the area in a way that I want businesses to come in. I don't want to tell them everybody close and don't come. I want to tell them the success story is is if you act execute it correctly and you all of this foot traffic is around you. [0:52:20, 0:52:21]: All you can do. [0:52:22, 0:52:27]: as a business owner or is uh as as as a uh developer. [0:52:27, 0:52:29]: is to have a anchor tenant [0:52:30, 0:52:31]: in that development. [0:52:31, 0:52:33]: That people are coming to. [0:52:34, 0:52:35]: If you don't succeed. [0:52:36, 0:52:41]: at this location where publics is is not is not them is you [0:52:42, 0:52:46]: Because in the end, the foot traffic is there. [0:52:46, 0:52:52]: It's gotta be something going on in there. Uh, years ago there was a restaurant. [0:52:52, 0:52:55]: uh that was out front tulipies to lu to lupies [0:52:56, 0:52:58]: Tulipees restaurant that was out front. [0:52:58, 0:53:01]: It was a restaurant where you could sit down and eat. [0:53:01, 0:53:03]: But it wasn't run very well. [0:53:04, 0:53:07]: And publics is demands those. [0:53:07, 0:53:10]: Uh those standards and the people that go to publics. [0:53:10, 0:53:13]: They're looking for quality. [0:53:13, 0:53:15]: in everything that they do. [0:53:15, 0:53:17]: Now with these numbers that I have today. [0:53:18, 0:53:20]: And the numbers that we have. [0:53:20, 0:53:23]: Certainly, I think one of the main issues is that [0:53:24, 0:53:29]: I don't I don't see as a realtor, I don't see hardly any marketing for stock bridge lakes. [0:53:30, 0:53:38]: And I certainly don't see any marketing on pop on part of the city, even though this is in our entire downtown area. [0:53:38, 0:53:56]: We focus more on the strip, which is Martin Luther King Sr. Jr., which is the historic downtown. But my eyes, we need to be focusing on the whole thing because the people are telling us where they want to be. We can't tell them where we want them to be. They're telling us where they want to be. [0:53:56, 0:54:12]: But all of us who sit on this DDA board have to understand those dynamics. The pub the public's shopping center is telling us, the customers are telling us very loudly and clearly with the money. [0:54:12, 0:54:16]: And with their foot traffic where they want to be. [0:54:16, 0:54:18]: And what they will support. [0:54:18, 0:54:19]: Because [0:54:19, 0:54:22]: Uh there's been a misnomer that okay, well if you put [0:54:22, 0:54:24]: Nice things downtown. [0:54:24, 0:54:28]: then uh you know will will pup people pay a little bit more. [0:54:28, 0:54:34]: You can go to Walmart and get the product for a lot less, but you can't get that same service at public. [0:54:34, 0:54:36]: And you can't get the same quality. [0:54:36, 0:54:38]: So what I'm saying to us is that [0:54:39, 0:54:41]: We gotta look at the whole pie. [0:54:41, 0:54:43]: in terms of where we're going. [0:54:43, 0:54:46]: in terms of the entire downtown area. [0:54:47, 0:54:50]: The historic area and the new DDA map. [0:54:51, 0:54:53]: With all of it coming together because [0:54:54, 0:54:57]: We got we can't try to dictate to the folks what they're gonna do. [0:54:57, 0:54:59]: They're gonna tell us what [0:54:59, 0:55:00]: What's working? [0:55:01, 0:55:04]: They've also told us they like the amphitheater. [0:55:04, 0:55:10]: There were many people who said, don't spend that much money in downtown. Spend$23 million on this project. [0:55:11, 0:55:13]: And four thousand people showed up in the first. [0:55:13, 0:55:15]: Iteration of that. [0:55:15, 0:55:18]: There are indicators that we have to pay attention to. [0:55:19, 0:55:22]: When the quality comes, they shows up show up. [0:55:22, 0:55:25]: And the reason that I focused on the seventy five percent. [0:55:26, 0:55:46]: The 75% number didn't have anything to do with Stockbridge. It had to do with publics. It's in the 75%ile nationally with publics. So that tells you it's not just the stock bridge, it's not just uh doing well just for stock bridge, or this is not doing well just for the downtown. [0:55:46, 0:55:51]: house Doc Bridge area is doing well period at the 75%ile. [0:55:52, 0:55:58]: Thank you, Councilman. Um, so uh are there any other questions for uh Mike and Sharon? [0:55:59, 0:56:19]: I I think where I'd like to leave it is um let's collect any ideas that we have for further analysis and then collect those to you can send them to me and Alan Peterson and we'll send them off to um, you know, maybe I would I would suggest we even coordinate with the Georgia Tech team and then maybe have a working session with any [0:56:19, 0:56:29]: additional analysis that we might want to uh pursue. Uh Alan, do you have your hand raised? Go ahead. Yes. [0:56:29, 0:56:33]: Mike and Sharon, uh this was was needed and we greatly appreciate it. [0:56:34, 0:56:38]: And we look forward to getting back with you with some more detailed requests. [0:56:38, 0:56:44]: And also connecting you with Georgia Tech for our study. But um but like Councilmember Alexander said. [0:56:45, 0:56:50]: Um we need we do need to better do a better job of marketing that area because that's where the people want to be. [0:56:50, 0:56:54]: And uh that's one of the reasons for our social media campaign. [0:56:54, 0:56:55]: Um [0:56:55, 0:56:58]: that that firm that we bring in. [0:56:58, 0:57:02]: Will help us market the entire DDA and not just that main street. [0:57:03, 0:57:14]: downtown DDA area that we oftentimes focus on. Additionally, dealing with the the um the publics, there is a a a baseball field right across from that. [0:57:14, 0:57:16]: And that attracts children. [0:57:16, 0:57:18]: And that's another reason. So [0:57:18, 0:57:20]: It it it should be [0:57:21, 0:57:23]: uh easy for us to take advantage. [0:57:23, 0:57:24]: Of that of that area. [0:57:25, 0:57:28]: Mm-hmm. Thank thank you, Sharon and Mike. I I really appreciate it. [0:57:29, 0:57:38]: Thank you. And y'all are welcome to stay for the rest of the meeting, uh, but we're gonna move on with our agenda. So thank you again for your for the analysis and for uh taking your questions. [0:57:39, 0:57:40]: Thanks for having us, everybody. [0:57:41, 0:58:01]: Great segue, Mr. Peterson. So uh as far as the social social media campaign and request for proposal. So uh Alan and uh you know uh due to uh Councilman Alexander's um uh request and leadership, we've we've pers we we've put out a request for proposal for a social media campaign manager, so a firm that will help us [0:58:01, 0:58:21]: um market the downtown district. And so I'd like to ask for help from this team, the DDA team, to help evaluate the proposals. So I'm looking for um two to three members of the DDA that would be willing to review the proposals and [0:58:21, 0:58:38]: make a decision and and help um you know um recommend a decision to the DDA board as far as which one we would go with. So um you can either speak up now if you have any questions or let me know via email as far as uh who you if you'd be willing to uh serve on the evaluation team. [0:58:42, 0:58:48]: Roger, I I don't have any particular expertise as far as social media. I'm not on Facebook and Twitter and all that, but [0:58:49, 0:58:51]: I I I'd you know, I'd be happy to help. [0:58:52, 0:58:53]: Thank you. Appreciate that, Bob. [0:58:54, 0:58:55]: Roger? [0:58:55, 0:58:56]: Roger. [0:58:56, 0:58:58]: Yes. If I could um [0:58:59, 0:59:00]: I I want everyone to know that um [0:59:01, 0:59:05]: You know, you don't you don't need to be be an expert on social media. Um [0:59:06, 0:59:10]: When when these firms apply, you'll look at their presentation. [0:59:10, 0:59:14]: And um you look at their past work, that's a large component. [0:59:14, 0:59:20]: of of of the application of the scoring process. That's a that's a hefty percentage. So [0:59:20, 0:59:25]: Um, you could look at their past work and you can relate their past work to what we want done. [0:59:25, 0:59:34]: And our DDA. So you don't have to be an expert. You don't even need a Twitter or Facebook. Um, if if you like what they've done in the past and it's worked. [0:59:35, 0:59:37]: And you think that it fits what we're trying to do. [0:59:37, 0:59:41]: in um in our DDA, then you can you can be on the board. [0:59:41, 0:59:42]: Well [0:59:43, 0:59:47]: I certainly would uh you just uh to to evaluate the committee. [0:59:48, 0:59:49]: Uh not actually. [0:59:49, 0:59:53]: Uh just evaluate the committee. Oh to evaluate the uh [0:59:53, 0:59:55]: Potential uh vendor. Yeah. [0:59:55, 0:59:56]: Thank you, Councilmember. [0:59:58, 1:00:00]: Roger, this is Barber. I like to be on that committee as well. [1:00:01, 1:00:03]: Thank you, Barber. I appreciate that. [1:00:04, 1:00:24]: All right. And if any others are interested, we welcome the uh participation. And um once we get the responses back, then I'll I'll I'll share that with anyone who's expressed their interest. Um so that moves us to the next um we're kind of uh to the officers and city uh staff report. So just a few comments. Um first of all, um [1:00:24, 1:00:31]: Vanessa, have you received any applicants yet for the uh open position with the DDA? [1:00:32, 1:00:34]: We received [1:00:34, 1:00:39]: An application for the citywide but not specifically for the DDA, no. [1:00:41, 1:01:00]: Okay, so I guess uh a note to everyone who's listening, please um uh see if there's anyone who meets the criteria for the DDA. They need to either um manage or own a business in the downtown district or be a resident of the city at large. Um Barber, you have your hand up. [1:01:02, 1:01:04]: You to are we do we have one board? [1:01:05, 1:01:06]: See to feel or two. [1:01:07, 1:01:09]: Uh just the one. Just the one, okay. [1:01:10, 1:01:10]: Yes. [1:01:11, 1:01:12]: Excuse me. [1:01:13, 1:01:22]: Yes, councilman. Mr. Peterson, and I'm I and I'm just sitting here drawing a blank. The financial company that we just uh had the ribbon cutting for. [1:01:23, 1:01:25]: What's their name? I'm sorry. I just [1:01:31, 1:01:32]: You mute it. [1:01:36, 1:01:38]: Uh I need I need to check. [1:01:38, 1:01:53]: I think that's Indigo Financial. Yeah, in Indigo, yeah. Right. I I just I was drawing a blank, thank you. We certainly should reach out to Indigo Financial. They're they've indicated that you know they have an office in Alpharetta. They have a off and they chose us. [1:01:53, 1:01:56]: Specifically because of what was going on with the amphitheater. [1:01:57, 1:01:59]: And they're planning on having a concert. [1:02:00, 1:02:09]: Inviting all of their prospects, three thousand of them to the amphitheater. Imagine what that'll look like and how many business people that could actually invest in us. [1:02:10, 1:02:12]: I'm sure they would be an asset. [1:02:12, 1:02:15]: uh to this board to have somebody from that company [1:02:15, 1:02:17]: uh working on the D VA. [1:02:18, 1:02:20]: Thank you. So Mr. Peterson, can you reach out to them? [1:02:21, 1:02:21]: And see. [1:02:22, 1:02:23]: Yeah, that would be possible. [1:02:24, 1:02:25]: Oh, definitely. [1:02:26, 1:02:28]: Thank you, Councilman. That's a great suggestion. [1:02:29, 1:02:49]: All right, um a couple more announcements. So the AARF, so the annual authority registration and financials, this is a required report for all authorities uh statewide to submit a report uh to the Department of Community Affairs. Um we had fulfilled that uh that commitment for uh 2020. [1:02:49, 1:03:09]: In 2021, but I learned that the prior reports were not submitted by the DDA, the Stockbridge DDA. I'm still in the process of completing that, and but I do wanna make known that that is in process. I've gotten the information just this morning. [1:03:09, 1:03:29]: um to help prepare the financial reports and thank you Vanessa for the information you provided on the uh officer training and the board members uh at that time so i believe i have the information i need to uh prepare that and i'll be doing that within a week um barber of course uh bob and barber i'll share with you uh any submissions that we make [1:03:29, 1:03:49]: So that they can become part of the record. Just as a note, that is a prerequisite before we can take advantage of the revolving loan fund. That was the presentation that DCA gave to this board in our February meeting. So once that's in place, I believe we should be good to go as far as participating in that. [1:03:49, 1:04:09]: program. Um just a couple of uh housekeeping uh oh no uh before I move on to that uh we did get a uh quit claim deed and affidavit uh there was apparently a boundary um misunderstanding or dispute regarding the uh property [1:04:09, 1:04:29]: Sale that was uh sold uh last year by the DDA to uh Sylvain. Um I have sent that over to our attorney to review, and uh once we get their uh comments or feedback, we'll be getting that back and straightening that out as quickly as possible. Um, next item uh we I sent out [1:04:29, 1:04:49]: A note to everyone regarding the the the the city is looking so the city is looking for feedback and participation either in a steering committee or in a focus group for the park systems master plan for the city of Stockbridge. Um I sent out a flyer. [1:04:48, 1:05:08]: And I think the deadline is this week. I want to say tomorrow or by Friday of this week. Um, and I I encourage you to participate in either, is either on the focus group or the steering committee or both. Um uh this is uh an important way of uh lending your voice as to how the [1:05:08, 1:05:28]: Park system for City of Stockbridge will be designed. Here are the housekeeping notes. So I did receive a and deposited a$25 option money that was received in the mail at City Hall that got deposited to our operating account. This was the option money for the same Sylvain. [1:05:28, 1:05:48]: Land deal that was done last year in April. Um, and I've received a new debit card for our tourist account, which I'm going to be sending over to our treasurer uh for her to manage. Uh thank you, Barber. And then lastly, I did receive uh the official DDA stamp, uh, which we found. [1:05:48, 1:06:06]: during last year's uh deal that the DDA needed and did not have an official stamp to sign official documentation. That's been received and I've uh left that at City Hall to keep with the official um DDA records. Any questions on anything I've covered so far? [1:06:07, 1:06:27]: All right. That that's all the items I wanted to share with everyone. So uh next on the agenda is to uh meet our new city manager, Frederick Gardner. Um Mr. Gardner, thanks for joining our meeting. I think I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Yes, sir. Before we move on real quick, is the this port report that we just saw going [1:06:27, 1:06:40]: to be sent out to us or for our review. And thank you. I meant to ask that while they were on the phone, but I will follow up with them following the meeting to see if they can send us a copy of that presentation that Mike prepared. [1:06:41, 1:06:44]: Was Sharon still I'll see her? Is she still there? [1:06:45, 1:06:48]: I don't see that she is. [1:06:50, 1:06:54]: Oh yes, yes, you're still in call. But she is there. [1:06:55, 1:06:57]: She's just muted. [1:07:00, 1:07:02]: We'll follow request that. [1:07:07, 1:07:13]: All right, I but I do see that um uh Mr. Gardner has dropped. [1:07:13, 1:07:28]: Um, I know I know the presentation took a little longer than expected. So um I think we'll move on to the next item on the agenda. We've already covered the treasurer's report, so I'll move on to uh Secretary's updates. So Bob, do you have anything you want to share with the group? [1:07:28, 1:07:30]: Uh no, not at this time. [1:07:30, 1:07:43]: All right, that brings us to the um Main Street Advisory Board updates. Um Lisa, I see you are here. Um I'll I'll go to you first and then Barber, if you have anything to add, of course you'll have the floor. Go ahead, Lisa. [1:07:44, 1:08:04]: Okay, thank you. Um I have a couple of items. Um the first item is not actually in the Main Street district or have anything to do with the downtown, but just something for our citywide knowledge. Um on this past Friday, there was a ribbon cutting for Argento at the bridges. [1:08:04, 1:08:09]: Um, I'm not sure. I don't remember if I saw any of you there, but um it is [1:08:09, 1:08:10]: Um [1:08:10, 1:08:11]: It's [1:08:11, 1:08:16]: It's a construction project that will be going on near the bridges at Jodico. [1:08:16, 1:08:26]: And um from what I understand, it's a mixed use development of three hundred six apartment units. It's six thousand uh square feet. It will have [1:08:26, 1:08:30]: Сікс та сквер фіт вoutique retail space as well. So [1:08:31, 1:08:34]: The city is very happy to have that project underway. [1:08:34, 1:08:38]: Um and then I've got a few other items that are more downtown specific. [1:08:40, 1:08:41]: Thank you. [1:08:41, 1:08:41]: Okay. [1:08:42, 1:08:42]: Um [1:08:43, 1:08:45]: So I will um [1:08:45, 1:08:47]: Offer you our mission statement. [1:08:47, 1:08:54]: Um, the Stockbridge Main Street program's mission is to design and support an identifiable downtown historic district. [1:08:54, 1:09:03]: That promotes economic vitality, cultivates artistic expression, encourages cultural enrichment, and nurtures community spirit. [1:09:04, 1:09:09]: Um we have our April meeting date, which will be the third Friday, April fifteenth. [1:09:10, 1:09:13]: Um, we would have normally had it on the second Friday. [1:09:14, 1:09:19]: But um the eighth is during the Henry County Schools spring break. So we've moved that date. [1:09:20, 1:09:21]: Um [1:09:22, 1:09:25]: In addition to that, the Ted Strickland building. [1:09:25, 1:09:28]: Um a contractor has been selected. [1:09:28, 1:09:31]: And the contract has gone through to our legal department. [1:09:31, 1:09:37]: Um, we are waiting for that to be cleared to go onto the calendar for the upcoming city council meeting. [1:09:38, 1:09:41]: Also for the Berk Street Alleyway project. [1:09:41, 1:09:42]: Um [1:09:42, 1:09:51]: The city attorneys are working on the necessary easements to the properties that are attached to that driveway and alleyway. [1:09:52, 1:09:57]: Um, once this is done, we can start the bidding process to find contractors to do the work. [1:09:58, 1:09:59]: Okay. [1:09:59, 1:10:03]: Um if anybody hasn't noticed, there is a downtown [1:10:04, 1:10:06]: Sewer work project going on. [1:10:06, 1:10:11]: This will be a 60-day project that is being managed by the city's wastewater department. [1:10:12, 1:10:23]: The project will require street closures and detours. The work will impact downtown and the residential area along Burke Street, MLK. [1:10:23, 1:10:26]: Love Street, Jim Clark Drive, and Davis Road. [1:10:27, 1:10:31]: Also the MLK Streetscape um [1:10:31, 1:10:37]: Has recently had a power washing project that was completed last week. Maybe you guys. [1:10:37, 1:10:41]: Got to notice that it's brighter over there in our [1:10:41, 1:10:45]: Um little half wall is not as dingy. [1:10:45, 1:10:48]: Um also um just a couple more. [1:10:49, 1:10:50]: Quick things. [1:10:51, 1:10:53]: Actually just one more. Um [1:10:54, 1:10:56]: So the small business Saturday. [1:10:57, 1:10:58]: Слеш [1:10:58, 1:11:03]: A small business blitz for Stockbridge was very successful last year. [1:11:03, 1:11:07]: Um, I think everyone noticed that we did a couple of things differently. [1:11:08, 1:11:10]: Um, because of the pandemic, we [1:11:10, 1:11:13]: Decided it was a good idea to um [1:11:13, 1:11:16]: Стречне проєктн кампін паст. [1:11:17, 1:11:18]: The one Saturday in November. [1:11:19, 1:11:21]: Um and I we got a lot of good feedback. [1:11:21, 1:11:26]: We made it the entire month of November. And as always, we encourage everyone to [1:11:26, 1:11:29]: continue shopping small throughout the entire [1:11:30, 1:11:32]: holiday season into the end of the year. [1:11:33, 1:11:35]: Um so with that, um [1:11:35, 1:11:50]: We've started earlier this year, knowing that we've got a whole month to fill and and campaign for. Um, so tomorrow morning at nine o'clock, there will be um a small business blitz committee meeting. It will be on [1:11:50, 1:11:53]: The second Wednesday each month. Um [1:11:54, 1:11:55]: Going forward [1:11:55, 1:12:02]: Uh and at nine o'clock in the morning. Um, so those are our updates. We're very excited to do a better job with. [1:12:02, 1:12:05]: Small business Saturday and our [1:12:05, 1:12:08]: November or holiday shopping blitz time. [1:12:08, 1:12:14]: in 2022. Anyone would like to help with that, you're welcome to join us. [1:12:14, 1:12:15]: Thank you guys. [1:12:17, 1:12:29]: Thank you, Lisa. Great report and I really appreciate all the uh all the work uh you and the Main Street team has been doing to help um help develop the downtown. So that's great. Any any questions for Lisa? [1:12:31, 1:12:33]: Any additional comments, Barber, anything to add? [1:12:35, 1:12:36]: No. [1:12:37, 1:12:57]: All right, we'll move on to the next item on the agenda, the facade grant update. Um uh I'll uh first of all, big thanks to Bob for uh and and and Alan for the work. Um at Bob and Alan and myself, we uh formed a committee and we're reviewing all of the uh procedure documentation as well as what's published on our website. [1:12:57, 1:13:17]: related to the FUS facade grant. There's been some things that needed to be addressed. And so we're drafting those documents. We've completed one set of documents. We have a few more letters that you know this we we wanted to kind of have a template for the, you know, we've received your application. [1:13:17, 1:13:37]: And your application has been approved or denied, and then putting some rules around uh the facade grant process for consistency, just some lessons learned on the ones that uh we've experienced so far. That's near completion. We've had one more committee meeting, and I expect that by this next uh by the uh April meeting for the [1:13:37, 1:13:50]: Downtown Development Authority meeting, we'll be able to present the revised uh documents and procedures uh that we've developed for the facade grant. So that's underway. Any questions about that? [1:13:51, 1:13:52]: Yes, sir. [1:13:52, 1:13:55]: Yes, Lisa, go ahead. Yes. Um [1:13:55, 1:14:06]: So it's more of a comment and a gr and a request. It's been a little while since I went onto the um seamless docks application for the for the facade grant. [1:14:06, 1:14:11]: Um, but I did go on within the past couple months and at that time. [1:14:12, 1:14:20]: It was a little bit difficult to find it on the city's website. So if you could get with the clerk's office and just make sure it's easy for your um applicants to find. [1:14:20, 1:14:27]: And in addition to that, I think it just needed a little bit of updating because it still had the name of one of the former officers. So [1:14:28, 1:14:33]: Just a couple things to make it um fresher and easy for our applicants to find. [1:14:33, 1:14:38]: Bingo man. Soon as we get our website up, it'll be perfect, won't it? [1:14:39, 1:14:59]: And and yes, we did recognize that the application itself uh had some information that was not current. And uh I thankfully Alan Tenton and the and the city staff team that uh he's been working with, we did get access to an editable version of the application. So that we that's that's one of our next steps. We've uh there was like a [1:14:59, 1:15:19]: An overview document that had all the procedures kind of listed out. That's been complete. We've we've drafted a new version of that. And the next item we were working on was the application and the confirmation letter. So once once we do that, the whole package will be ready for publishing and that should roll very dovetail quite nicely, assuming we, you know. [1:15:19, 1:15:39]: we can proceed with a social media or web presence and we'll have an even more uh more marketing around um promoting that program because as uh councilman alexander said in our last meeting um we don't want to carry a large budget for the facade grant we want that money to go to the businesses in our district uh [1:15:39, 1:15:47]: Um, all right. Uh next item I have is just uh city staff updates. So Alan Peterson, do you have anything you want to share with group? [1:15:52, 1:15:56]: Not right now. I don't I don't have anything to add. I think everything has been said. Um [1:15:57, 1:16:04]: I think we think we have a great meeting today with Georgia Powell. I'm looking forward to implementing that with Georgia Tech. And I'm looking forward to [1:16:04, 1:16:05]: Getting um [1:16:06, 1:16:08]: this social media marketing campaign going. [1:16:09, 1:16:15]: And the information that we receive today is going to help with that tremendously because whoever we hire. [1:16:15, 1:16:16]: is going to have data. [1:16:17, 1:16:21]: to um to help. They're just not going out there blind. So I I I'm looking forward to that. [1:16:23, 1:16:24]: Uh R Roger. [1:16:25, 1:16:31]: Go ahead. I have a question for Mr. Peterson, our statement. Mr. Peterson, tell us about the brilliant visit. [1:16:31, 1:16:36]: DCA had here and oh yes how magnanimous that was. [1:16:36, 1:16:43]: Yes. What a great job you did. So it was it it it was a team effort. It was a team effort. Um [1:16:43, 1:16:48]: Councilman Alexander was there. We also had uh Miss Kira there from Main Street and [1:16:48, 1:16:54]: We met with um DCA, Miss Cherie Bennett came and we drove around. [1:16:54, 1:17:01]: Our downtown, we drove through a little bit of residential and she did tell us that we are in a good position to apply. [1:17:02, 1:17:04]: For the opportunity zone. [1:17:04, 1:17:13]: Uh as you all know, a few months ago I I had a tour with DCA, but it wasn't with Ms. Bennett. It was with another one of her team members. And uh [1:17:14, 1:17:17]: Our team member took a lot of pictures and put a report together. [1:17:17, 1:17:18]: Um after that visit. [1:17:19, 1:17:23]: We got on the Zoom meeting and we presented that information to Miss Bennett and um [1:17:23, 1:17:27]: We didn't qualify, but after this visit, now she let us know that um [1:17:27, 1:17:29]: Things looked a lot worse in person. [1:17:30, 1:17:45]: So um we're we're in a position to um to apply for that opportunity zone. I spoke with Ms. Bennett today and I was emailing her. So I'm going to go through it and ask her a few questions. The opportunity zone is not an application. Um [1:17:46, 1:17:51]: like other grants and other programs, it it's more of a checklist of things that we have to put together. [1:17:52, 1:17:54]: So I'll be in communication with her. [1:17:54, 1:18:02]: Trying to get that done. And I've worked with her and well DCA in the past, and they're very helpful. So I'll be working uh with her on that. [1:18:03, 1:18:04]: If anybody wants to help, let me know. [1:18:05, 1:18:08]: Absolutely. And understanding that uh [1:18:08, 1:18:10]: This is huge, ladies and gentlemen. [1:18:11, 1:18:14]: If we get the opportunity zone standard. [1:18:15, 1:18:26]: Yeah, let's say Ms. King, you opened up a business in downtown Stockbridge and you hired 10 employees, then you would get a check each year for$35,000. [1:18:27, 1:18:36]: Because we're in an opportunity zone. So in and you would get that check every year for 10 years for$350,000. [1:18:36, 1:18:54]: So when every person, every time, that's that's the carrot. That's why Jonesboro is succeeding. You know, a lot of these areas are succeeding because they have opportunities on businesses. Look for these, they search the globe for this. So we're able to do that. [1:18:55, 1:18:58]: Somebody wants to open a coffee shop or a bookstore. [1:18:58, 1:19:02]: And they hire twenty employees, thirty employees, whatever they hire. [1:19:02, 1:19:10]: They get this tax credit to help offset the cost for every employee that they hire. That's why this is so significant. [1:19:11, 1:19:13]: And that opportunity, I thank you, Mr. Peterson. [1:19:13, 1:19:15]: For getting Miss Bennett back. [1:19:16, 1:19:18]: Uh on that conference call, so I could ask. [1:19:18, 1:19:21]: for a reevaluation, because once she got and it was good. [1:19:21, 1:19:23]: And she went to the amphitheater. [1:19:24, 1:19:26]: What happened when she went to the amphitheater, Miss Peterson? [1:19:28, 1:19:29]: Oh, she she just lit up. [1:19:29, 1:19:31]: You know, she um [1:19:31, 1:19:40]: She uh she really liked it. Um it was top-notch. Um, you know, we were able to take her in the green room and in the green room and and all around. So [1:19:40, 1:19:59]: She she understands what we're trying to do here in our downtown area and she's very supportive as well as everyone over there in DCA. So I I do know that DCA wants to work with us and they want to see us succeed because when we succeed, you know, everybody looks good. The DDA looks good, the city looks good, and the DCA looks good. [1:20:00, 1:20:01]: So she she was very impressed with [1:20:02, 1:20:04]: within the amphitheater and what we're trying to do. [1:20:04, 1:20:07]: And I think that having heard look at the amphitheater. [1:20:08, 1:20:10]: You know, made her understand. [1:20:10, 1:20:16]: while we're trying to build this downtown area because they're so close and they complement each other. [1:20:17, 1:20:37]: Yeah, she she wants to see us succeed. It was so good in that what she said was uh she saw where we were going and that she could see we got an opportunity to present the vision. And when folks can see where you're going, then they understand uh, you know, uh the flight. So she took a second. [1:20:37, 1:20:42]: look and by the end of that car drive she was pointing to things that we needed to put [1:20:42, 1:20:44]: On the list to help us. [1:20:45, 1:20:48]: So it's good to know that Mr. Peterson's relationship [1:20:48, 1:20:49]: With them. [1:20:49, 1:20:55]: predated us and that that was able to assist. So that's exactly why we brought him to town. So thank you, sir. [1:20:56, 1:20:58]: Thank you, Councilman. Barber, I see your hand up. [1:21:02, 1:21:12]: I wanted to and Mr. Peterson had asked for volunteers. I just wanted to be clear on what the call to action was to make sure if I want to participate on that. [1:21:14, 1:21:19]: Are you are you re referring to the social media campaign or with the application? [1:21:20, 1:21:28]: Yeah, no, with what we you were just talking about with the opportunity zone, you were asking for volunteers, but I wasn't sure um what we would volunteer for. [1:21:28, 1:21:31]: Just to help with the app uh with the application, well [1:21:31, 1:21:42]: Let's say application because it's not really an application for the opportunity zone. I um we we spoke today briefly about it and we're gonna have another follow-up call. We want to make sure that we have. [1:21:42, 1:21:46]: everything that we need. So I'll be sure to keep you in the loop. [1:21:46, 1:21:54]: Um regarding that. But it in actuality, we've really already started. It started during that tour when she saw what we were trying to do. [1:21:55, 1:21:58]: So we really have already started now it's just collecting data and putting it together. [1:21:59, 1:22:00]: Got it. Okay. Thank you. [1:22:02, 1:22:21]: All right. Um Alan, actually I have a couple uh uh questions. Um it's it's a little bit later on the agenda, but and have you heard any response regarding the intergovernmental agreement that the uh that we've drafted uh that presented to the city? I know you forwarded over to the city's managers. Any any discussion or any concerns at this point? Any update? [1:22:21, 1:22:24]: I I haven't received anything back from the attorneys as of yet. [1:22:25, 1:22:45]: All right. And the other item, we haven't talked about this in a long while, but I know earlier a few months ago, you had there have been some open discussions with Norfolk Southern regarding uh, you know, the quiet zone. Any updates uh on that front? Yes, yes. Um one thing that that we're going to need is a traffic study. Now a traffic [1:22:45, 1:22:49]: study was conducted when the amphitheater was um [1:22:50, 1:22:53]: was was built and um they have a copy of that. [1:22:53, 1:22:56]: So I have a meeting with them actually next week. [1:22:56, 1:23:02]: Um, that was just scheduled. We're going to meet to see if that study is sufficient for the quiet zone. [1:23:04, 1:23:07]: Barber. [1:23:07, 1:23:15]: I'll let you all know now that's going to be somewhat of a lengthy process, you know, dealing with the railroad and that quiet zone. There are a lot of moving pieces dealing with that. [1:23:16, 1:23:36]: Right, I understand. But that, you know, the reason I'm so interested in that from a the DDA perspective is I, you know, I've I've long felt that that's a significant um factor in attracting both residential and outdoor dining to the area. And I I agree with you a hundred percent. [1:23:36, 1:23:42]: Percent Roger, especially when you're dealing with the restaurants and outdoor dining, that train is loud. I hear it in my office. [1:23:42, 1:23:59]: It stops the conversation with ins inside the business. Everything goes on pause. Right, exactly. So they um, you know, we're we're beating down their door, you know, we're we're we're constantly on them about that. [1:24:00, 1:24:02]: And we're back from my understanding. [1:24:02, 1:24:04]: Those conversations were going on. [1:24:04, 1:24:07]: Um, before I got here, then they stalled for a bit because of COVID. [1:24:08, 1:24:09]: Um now I'm here and I [1:24:10, 1:24:15]: you know, beam beam down their uh their door. So yeah, we we have a meeting next week. I'll be meeting with um [1:24:16, 1:24:22]: with um one of the representatives and uh Mr. Deshes, who was the public works director for the city of Stockbridge. [1:24:22, 1:24:25]: And um I'll keep you all posted. [1:24:26, 1:24:34]: Appreciate that. I know it's a long I know it's um I I know it's a long-term um you know path and a lot of moving parts. So I appreciate your work on that. [1:24:34, 1:24:39]: Um anything else? Uh anyone else have any questions or comments for Mr. Peterson? [1:24:41, 1:24:46]: All right, we'll move on to uh city council updates. Councilman, anything anything more you want to share with the group? [1:24:51, 1:24:54]: First of all, I just want to thank everybody for [1:24:55, 1:24:57]: Uh your participation. [1:24:57, 1:25:01]: And I think uh we're all to a great start in terms of [1:25:01, 1:25:02]: Uh twenty twenty two. [1:25:03, 1:25:07]: In saying this, we're we want to be able to meet every single month. [1:25:07, 1:25:12]: And we certainly don't want to cancel meetings and we want to meet with purpose. [1:25:12, 1:25:16]: And I think uh what we want to be able to do is to work [1:25:16, 1:25:19]: Um hand in hand with the city council. [1:25:19, 1:25:22]: uh moving the needle forward to get [1:25:22, 1:25:26]: uh to where we're looking to move this uh uh [1:25:26, 1:25:33]: move the city to. These meetings are going to be with purpose. Uh they're going to be done [1:25:33, 1:25:36]: uh in with intention um [1:25:37, 1:25:39]: And working with a coordinated vision. [1:25:40, 1:25:41]: Uh with the city. [1:25:41, 1:25:45]: And anytime that you have any questions about anything that we're doing. [1:25:45, 1:25:49]: Uh on the city side, I'm here to answer your question. I'm a email away. [1:25:50, 1:25:51]: I'm a phone call away. [1:25:51, 1:25:52]: To talk about [1:25:53, 1:25:54]: what we're doing. [1:25:54, 1:25:58]: And again, I just want to remind everyone to say [1:25:58, 1:26:02]: Who have you talked to about coming to downtown Stockbridge? [1:26:02, 1:26:07]: The function of this board is simply not to just go over what is brought to us. [1:26:08, 1:26:14]: and just vote or to talk about it. It is to act to be an actual participant. [1:26:14, 1:26:16]: in economic development. [1:26:16, 1:26:17]: So [1:26:17, 1:26:26]: Just like the data that we got today from public. So when some or on the downtown area, use that in your conversation with potential business owners to tell them. [1:26:27, 1:26:27]: We have [1:26:28, 1:26:30]: А публикс і на тон арія. [1:26:31, 1:26:32]: That is [1:26:32, 1:26:38]: uh greater foot traffic than seventy five percent of the publics in America. This is the place that you need to be. [1:26:38, 1:26:42]: and talk about it in terms of of positivity. [1:26:42, 1:27:02]: Uh in terms of the things that the city has going on, beautification, uh, we want to make sure that we uh my goal is to say that we want to be cleaner than Disney. And that's uh a a big, big aspiration for us to do that. And I'm starting that this Saturday at 9 a.m. picking up trash on Highway 138. [1:27:02, 1:27:16]: I don't I talk a lot, but I work and I try to get things done because 138, uh, we gotta do part of the you we gotta make sure that we do our place, uh cleaning the place up. We have city staff to do that. [1:27:16, 1:27:20]: A matter of fact, we just signed a new contract or renewed the contract with [1:27:20, 1:27:24]: Our contractors in order to maintain highway one thirty eight. [1:27:24, 1:27:38]: Uh when you get off there and you see things, make a report. If you see things that are out of line, you see litter or you see the grass not being cut, make a note of that. Go, we have a, you know, we have a city app. [1:27:38, 1:27:53]: We have a city app that you can report it on or you can go to the city C click fix and report these items on. And we certainly can get them work because it takes every set of eyes. When you drive down North Henry Boulevard, what do you see? [1:27:53, 1:28:13]: Because we gotta fix the gateway uh into downtown, because most people have already given up on us before they make it to downtown. Because when they see what they see, but then they see that inspiration, they see that hope and they see the amphitheater. And then you tell them about the STEM school is coming, all the new activities. [1:28:13, 1:28:24]: That are going on in downtown. And yes, the bridges at Jodeco Development kicked off. That's a$50 million investment in the city. [1:28:25, 1:28:37]: Uh the Argento project is$50 million in best in class uh luxury apartments. Why does that matter? Because they're trying to attract young urban professionals and well-appointed seniors. [1:28:37, 1:28:41]: uh to that location for residential so that [1:28:41, 1:28:43]: Uh the businesses want to see. [1:28:44, 1:28:46]: Uh residents already on location. [1:28:47, 1:28:48]: For them to come there. [1:28:48, 1:28:52]: And to be able to have foot traffic, the same foot traffic we're talking about. [1:28:52, 1:28:54]: uh public soffit so [1:28:55, 1:28:56]: And then by the way. [1:28:57, 1:29:02]: Not only are is the Argento moving forward, 140 townhomes. [1:29:02, 1:29:03]: were approved. [1:29:04, 1:29:10]: As well, a hundred and forty townhomes were approved. Those town homes are gonna be [1:29:10, 1:29:13]: Тр твоенев. [1:29:13, 1:29:16]: There will be the brownstone style town homes. [1:29:16, 1:29:20]: And the price point will probably be somewhere around four hundred thousand dollars and up. [1:29:20, 1:29:22]: So they're very significant. [1:29:22, 1:29:23]: Uh investment. [1:29:24, 1:29:34]: uh in the community. Over on the city center side, uh they're talking to several vendors, large wholesale warehouse, one of those uh that they're talking to. [1:29:34, 1:29:37]: Uh I understand that um [1:29:37, 1:29:50]: You know, that there's been some activity uh with other retailers like Starbucks and Chick-fil-A coming to the table as well. So as many people are being interested uh in uh signing up and coming on board. [1:29:50, 1:29:55]: We expect some uh big announcements uh coming from that direction. [1:29:55, 1:29:56]: So not just [1:29:56, 1:30:02]: uh you know, downtown, but all over the city. Activity is growing like never before. [1:30:03, 1:30:06]: Uh, the city manager we just talked about. [1:30:06, 1:30:14]: a potential uh residential development uh coming into downtown as well, seeing because we haven't seen a lot of building. [1:30:14, 1:30:15]: Uh coming into downtown. [1:30:16, 1:30:17]: But there's a significant [1:30:17, 1:30:21]: Uh some there's a significant developer looking to put [1:30:21, 1:30:23]: A neighborhood in downtown. [1:30:24, 1:30:31]: uh on empty space, not demolishing anything, but bringing a new s new development to downtown. [1:30:31, 1:30:34]: Uh to bring in residents uh so they can have [1:30:34, 1:30:36]: Nice accommodations. [1:30:37, 1:30:44]: uh added to downtown. So there's a lot of activity and understand that uh everything is moving forward and [1:30:44, 1:30:56]: Uh we'd like to see your presence uh out at these different events and what have you, the concerts at the amphitheater and different events so we can share the message that Stockbridge is open for business. [1:30:59, 1:31:09]: Thank you, Councilman. I do appreciate your work in promoting the development of downtown. Uh myself as a business owner, I greatly appreciate that. So thank you. Any questions for councilman? [1:31:11, 1:31:31]: All right. Uh remaining items on the agenda, the downtown strategic plan, each of the committees, you know, continue their work. I don't have any significant updates based uh you know, based on what I shared in the last month. And we've covered the item on the intergovernmental agreement. So at this point, I'll just open up the floor if there's any remaining questions or comments from anyone. [1:31:31, 1:31:32]: Any of the panelists? [1:31:35, 1:31:47]: All right. Um well with that, that covers the items on the agenda. Um I think uh then if any anyone would like to make a motion to adjourn the meeting, then I think we're we're at that point. [1:31:48, 1:31:50]: I move we adjourn the meeting. [1:31:50, 1:31:53]: All right, thank you, Bob. Can we have a second? [1:31:55, 1:31:58]: Second. Thank you, Councilman. [1:31:59, 1:32:00]: Any further discussion? [1:32:02, 1:32:10]: All right, we'll do this by show of hands, but I don't see Samequa or Barber. So if you'll say yes, if you're in favor of adjourning, well, there you go. I see Samikla. Thank you. Yes. [1:32:11, 1:32:22]: And I hear you, Barber. All right, that's unanimous. Thank you, everyone. I know it was a little bit longer than usual, but uh really good information this evening. Appreciate your continued work. Have a great night. Good night, everybody. Everybody.

--- title: Regular Council Meetings date: 2022-03-14 source: 2022-03-14_Regular_Council_Meetings.wav --- [0:00:07, 0:00:09]: So we're recording already. [0:00:53, 0:00:57]: Ladies and gentlemen, I want to know that uh we are recording at this time. [0:00:58, 0:00:58]: Okay. [0:01:39, 0:01:43]: And once again, ladies and gentlemen, we're actually on Facebook Live at this time as well. [0:02:08, 0:02:10]: That's me with the iPhone there, to get out to get each. [0:02:13, 0:02:17]: Good evening, Councilman Blount. Outstanding. Gotcha. Loud and clear. [0:02:22, 0:02:25]: Okay, so [0:02:28, 0:02:29]: Mm-hmm. [0:02:30, 0:02:30]: Mm. [0:02:35, 0:02:36]: Mm. [0:02:48, 0:02:50]: Good evening, everyone. [0:02:51, 0:02:52]: Good evening to you. [0:02:52, 0:02:53]: Evening. [0:02:54, 0:02:54]: Well [0:02:59, 0:03:01]: Mm. [0:03:42, 0:03:44]: That should buy me. [0:03:44, 0:03:45]: Oh [0:04:14, 0:04:16]: Good evening, folks. Uh let's see here. [0:04:17, 0:04:19]: I um [0:04:21, 0:04:25]: And waiting for Mr. Berry. [0:04:53, 0:04:53]: Sure. [0:05:10, 0:05:14]: Good evening, Miss Uh Washington and Miss Ross. Appreciate you all being here. [0:05:15, 0:05:18]: Good evening, Mayor. Good evening. [0:05:18, 0:05:19]: Hey C, welcome. [0:05:23, 0:05:27]: Thank you for having us. Welcome. [0:05:58, 0:05:59]: [403.6, 405.4]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, I have uh [0:06:46, 0:06:47]: six oh three. [0:06:48, 0:07:00]: I know Mr. Berry is going to join us shortly, but we do have attorney Davis for Washington's for uh sitting for Quentin at this point. Um so [0:07:01, 0:07:07]: I'd like to call this meeting to order. Once again, six oh three. There's Mr. Berry coming in now. Good deal. [0:07:08, 0:07:11]: And on that note, uh invocation, Mr. Blount, please. [0:07:13, 0:07:13]: Yes, sir. [0:07:15, 0:07:21]: Dear Hell and Gracious Father, we come to you today, thanking you, Lord, for your grace and for your mercy. [0:07:21, 0:07:27]: We come asking you, Heavenly Father, that you will be with us, mind, body, and spirit, as we continue to move the city forward. [0:07:28, 0:07:34]: Be the orchestrator of our moves, Heavenly Father, and be the guidance of our mind that we will make the decision first, pleasing in thy sight. [0:07:34, 0:07:40]: We ask that you continue to impart your wisdom upon each, every council member of the legislative body and staff. [0:07:40, 0:07:46]: Heavenly Father, that we will be a beacon of truth, God, that not only that we serve you, but that we're here to serve the people. [0:07:47, 0:07:53]: We thank you for what you're about to do in this great city of Stockbridge. And we thank you that we are a part of it in the leadership role that you've allowed us to be in. [0:07:54, 0:07:57]: We also ask God that you would continue to watch over those in Ukraine right now. [0:07:58, 0:08:02]: As the war began to roam and rage, Heavenly Father, that you would continue to keep all of them. [0:08:02, 0:08:09]: We ask that you would pierce the heart of those that would create this, Lord, that would that would be a part of devastation. Touch them right now. [0:08:10, 0:08:16]: And keep them, Heavenly Father. Keep this great city and protect us all. It's in Jesus' name we pray. Amen. [0:08:16, 0:08:20]: Amen. Please stand before the Pledge Allegiance. [0:08:21, 0:08:21]: Yeah. [0:08:24, 0:08:35]: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:08:37, 0:08:40]: Madam Crook, roll call, please. [0:08:42, 0:08:44]: Mayor Ford? Present. [0:08:44, 0:08:46]: Mayor Pro Tem Thomas. [0:08:46, 0:08:47]: Project. [0:08:47, 0:08:48]: Councilman Alexander. [0:08:49, 0:08:51]: Present Councilwoman Barber. [0:08:51, 0:08:52]: President. [0:08:52, 0:08:53]: Councilman Blount. [0:08:54, 0:08:54]: Present. [0:08:55, 0:08:56]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:08:56, 0:08:57]: Present. [0:08:57, 0:08:59]: Mayor Ford, you have a quorum. [0:08:59, 0:09:03]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate it. Council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:09:03, 0:09:05]: We're sure. [0:09:06, 0:09:12]: I'd like to make a motion to remove item number seven uh from the agenda. [0:09:13, 0:09:14]: Uh, for further discussion. [0:09:15, 0:09:15]: Thank you. [0:09:16, 0:09:19]: Okay, Mr. Blount second that motion. All in favor, please indicate. [0:09:21, 0:09:33]: And okay, so you now see season. Appreciate that. Okay. Now I need a motion to adopt the the agenda itself with the removal of that item. So moved, Mr. Alezander. So move. Is there a second? [0:09:35, 0:09:41]: So second. Oh Mr. Pro Mayor Pro Tem Tom second that. All in favor, please indicate. Aye. [0:09:41, 0:09:44]: Okay. And you just can't. [0:09:45, 0:10:05]: Aye. Thank you very much. Unanimous decision. All right, what you have before you, Council, are the adoption of the of the minutes, the draft minutes for the special call meeting on January 4th, uh, the council meeting minutes on January 10th, and also the council work session minutes on January 25th. If there are no changes or discussion [0:10:05, 0:10:08]: on that then I need a motion to adopt to adopt those actual minutes. [0:10:11, 0:10:12]: Come on, Mayor. [0:10:12, 0:10:15]: Okay. Uh uh Mr. Blount, is there a second? [0:10:15, 0:10:19]: I say. Okay, Ms. Gantt, second that. All in favor, please indicate. [0:10:21, 0:10:33]: Okay. Uh all right. Miss Barber, I'm sorry. You voted, Miss Barber. Okay. I think so you now see season on that as well. All right. Um, Miss Holiday, any public comments, please. [0:10:33, 0:10:36]: Mayor, um if you would um [0:10:37, 0:10:40]: I would like to know if you wanted me to read the one from the tenth or not. [0:10:42, 0:10:45]: Well yeah, sure. I mean, uh go ahead, please. Okay. [0:10:46, 0:10:49]: So we do have one comment there from Sonny Randazzo. [0:10:52, 0:11:12]: The retreat meetings are not being shown to the public on Zoom, so I can only hope you get my comment. Please don't forget to address noise mitigation. They really, really need to fix and address the noise issue before the next show. Also, please discuss the sponsors of the amphitheater and how the city became the advertiser for such risque products. [0:11:12, 0:11:14]: To put it politely. [0:11:14, 0:11:15]: At star ship. [0:11:16, 0:11:22]: This is an embarrassment in my opinion, and I would like to hear the council's opinion on this matter. [0:11:22, 0:11:23]: Thank you. [0:11:24, 0:11:28]: Uh Ms. Rendezvous lives at Bryant Street in Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:11:29, 0:11:32]: And we'll address that with the we'll address these concerns obviously with the [0:11:32, 0:11:35]: with our management company on this aspect as well. [0:11:35, 0:11:41]: Mayor, if you don't mind, I also would like to put on the record that the retreat meetings were public meetings held in person. [0:11:41, 0:11:44]: Okay, thank you very much. Appreciate it. You're welcome. Thank you very much. [0:11:45, 0:11:55]: Okay, we have a ceremonial uh part of our meeting this tonight, and that deals with a proclamation for Women's History Month. Okay. And um [0:11:56, 0:12:00]: What I like to do is read this into the record. Whereas in nineteen eighty [0:12:00, 0:12:05]: President Jimmy Carter issued the first presidential proclamation declaring the week of March eighth. [0:12:05, 0:12:07]: As National Women's History Week. [0:12:08, 0:12:14]: The following year, the US Congress followed suit, passing a resolution establishing a national celebration. [0:12:14, 0:12:28]: And whereas every year since 1987, the United States has formally recognized March as National Women's History Month. And whereas in 2022, women's history theme is providing healing, promoting hope. [0:12:29, 0:12:33]: as both an awareness of the ceaselessness work [0:12:33, 0:12:38]: of caregivers and frontline workers during the ongoing pandemic. [0:12:38, 0:12:45]: and a recognition of the thousands of ways that women of all cultures have provided both healing and hope throughout history. [0:12:46, 0:13:04]: And whereas every March, Women's History Month provides an opportunity to honor the generations of trail-blazing women and girls who have built our nation, shaped our progress, and strengthened our character as people. And whereas through our history, despite hardship, exclusion, and discrimination, [0:13:05, 0:13:25]: Women have strived and sacrificed for equity and equality in communities across the country. Whereas this Women's History Month, as we reflect on the achievements of women and girls across the centuries and pay tribute to the pioneers who paved the way, let us recommit to the fight and help realize the deeply American vision. [0:13:25, 0:13:31]: Of a more equal society where every person has a shot at pursuing their American dream. [0:13:31, 0:13:37]: In doing so, we will advance economic growth, our health and safety, and security of our nation and the world. [0:13:38, 0:13:50]: Now therefore I, Anthony S. Ford, by virtue of authority, vested in me as the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. And on behalf of Councilmembers Elton Alexander, Yolanda Barber, John Blount, Lakeisha Gat, and Afonso Thomas. [0:13:50, 0:14:10]: To hereby proclaim March 2022 as Women's History Month. We encourage everyone to observe this month with celebrations of women as we are doing here today and to celebrate International Women's Day on March 8, 2022. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand on the sixth day of March. [0:14:10, 0:14:18]: In the year of our Lord 20 uh 22. And I signed this along with our uh clerk Vanessa Holiday. [0:14:18, 0:14:19]: Outstanding. [0:14:21, 0:14:22]: Outstanding. [0:14:23, 0:14:29]: And we celebrate women this month, but we celebrate women every year, every day of the year, right? Absolutely. [0:14:30, 0:14:32]: Um the next item would be a public hearing. [0:14:33, 0:14:36]: This deals with a unified development code. It's our third reading. [0:14:37, 0:14:40]: The city of Stockbridge, Mayor, City Council will review. [0:14:40, 0:14:48]: the community development uh excuse me the the community development department has proposed new unified development code udc [0:14:48, 0:15:02]: Which includes the city's zoning code, sign and development codes. The new UDC would compromise, comprise, I'm a would comprise both an update and a rewriting rewriting of the existing UDC for purposes of one. [0:15:02, 0:15:09]: Making needing c needed corrections and clarifications, two revising the allowable zoning districts in the city. [0:15:09, 0:15:12]: Three, making the document more user friendly. [0:15:12, 0:15:17]: On September 23rd, 2021, the Planning Commission recommended adoption of the UDC. [0:15:18, 0:15:29]: After October 26, 2021 council meeting, the council approved for a legal team to review the UDC in more detail. This is going to be presented uh tonight by uh Ms. Johnson, please. [0:15:33, 0:15:36]: Good evening, Mayor and Council members. [0:15:36, 0:15:55]: Yes, this item has come before you all a number of times prior. In the last meeting we had in October, the attorneys with Washington Bell stated that they wanted to have a zoning attorney come in, review the documents line by line, and that is what happened. [0:15:55, 0:16:15]: We subsequently set up meetings with the council meetings, council members about two weeks ago to kind of go through some of those updates. And Casey's here with our overview of the document, short and sweet, so that we can move forward hopefully with adoption tonight. [0:16:15, 0:16:16]: Exactly. [0:16:17, 0:16:20]: Perfect. Thank you. I'm just gonna share my screen real fast. [0:16:24, 0:16:25]: Is that the [0:16:50, 0:17:10]: So thank you, Miss Breca, and thank you, Mr. Mayor and Council members, for allowing us to come back with you. Um, this has been an exciting process. Um, I know you were all with us throughout this. Um, this is culminating to about 14, 15 months. Um, and we have looked at everything. We have reached out to the public. [0:17:10, 0:17:30]: Public. We have had internal committee meetings. We have discussed things with Planning Commission. Of course, we have discussed all of the changes with you several times. And we have completed the legal review. So yay. So if it's okay, I'm just gonna remind everyone a little bit of how far we've [0:17:29, 0:17:49]: Come and some of those changes. Just like you stated, Mr. Mayor, the goals of the unified development code update were to improve organization and user friendliness for all of the users, to update the zoning and overlay districts, to integrate architectural and site design requirements. [0:17:49, 0:17:55]: requirements and to define and streamline all of your review processes. [0:17:56, 0:18:16]: I think everyone may remember we did take a look and dive deep into your zoning districts. So you previously had 19 districts, and then we were able to combine some, modify some, add some uses that we heard were needed throughout. And now you'll have 13 zoning districts. [0:18:16, 0:18:20]: Residential, commercial, industrial, and mixed use districts. [0:18:21, 0:18:41]: We also created a new two-page layout. This is something that will help all of the users. So when you do know the zoning district of your property, you'll be able to go right to this section. You'll see the intent of the district, all of the permitted uses in that district, even the conditional uses and the accessory uses. [0:18:40, 0:18:56]: And then on the second page you'll actually see your dimensional requirements. So that's going to be your lot width, your lot frontage, your front, side and rear setbacks, height setbacks, and maximum lot coverage. [0:18:57, 0:19:17]: Another new uh uh usable tool in the code is the creation of a use table or a use matrix. And what this allows someone to do is if they are actually looking for a specific use. Let's just say, in this case, a live work unit, you just scroll right. [0:19:17, 0:19:26]: over and you'll see that those are only permitted in that downtown district. So another real easy tool for everyone to know and understand. [0:19:27, 0:19:47]: We also took a look at your overlay districts. If you remember, we kind of just uh snazzed up the names a little bit because now we're looking at the city as one whole unified area. So we did combine all of the previous overlays. And this district is going to allow mixed use developments by right. So we know that is. [0:19:47, 0:20:07]: um what you want to promote and what you want those developers to bring. So we're just trying to make it clear and concise. So when they come in, it'll be an easy process. This also allows certain height increases. It defines the architectural and material requirements. We've also included streetscape design standards. [0:20:07, 0:20:27]: There are 10 feet wide pedestrian pathways. It does allow a reduction of parking in areas where the mixed use, there's a proper calculation by which to do this. So there should not be any parking problems. But we know when you have mixed use that there are different times and different peak hours for certain use. [0:20:27, 0:20:38]: It also includes site design and access management standards, and then on top of that, specific requirements for landscaping, lighting, and buffering. [0:20:39, 0:20:59]: We also took a look at your downtown village overlay district. We just renamed that one a little bit because if you recall, we actually created you a new zoning district in your downtown. So that will promote everything that downtown you envision with your new amphitheater, with your city hall, and with uh the other developments that we know. [0:20:59, 0:21:16]: you have on the horizon, such as your cultural arts center and things like that. So you do have a list of permitted uses. It is there to promote outside dining and special events. Once again, it solidifies the architectural features needed in that downtown. [0:21:16, 0:21:26]: It has the permitted materials once again, streetscape requirements, height and bulk standards, and then identifies where parking should be as well. [0:21:28, 0:21:48]: We also know that uh you you just did your groundbreaking for the Jodico development. And we know that you all worked really hard on some of those architectural design standards out there. So, what we did is we looked at ways to incorporate those throughout the entire citywide development standards. So we made [0:21:48, 0:21:55]: That there are architectural requirements for all the residential uses, as well as the mixed uses and the commercial buildings. [0:21:56, 0:22:05]: We also upgraded the out the open space and the outdoor lighting standards, and this will be citywide as well. [0:22:05, 0:22:15]: And then also looked at all the new construction on major highways. And this is once again required to have that 10 feet wide pedestrian travel zone. [0:22:16, 0:22:35]: Um, so that's kind of a quick highlight of a lot of everything. And I know one of the reasons that we're here tonight is to kind of take a look at the two moratorium that you had up. And so I do just want to turn that over a little bit to the legal team to speak a little bit more specifics about that. [0:22:38, 0:22:39]: That you must. [0:22:40, 0:22:41]: Go ahead, Martin. [0:22:42, 0:22:57]: Casey, if I if I may, I'll I'll jump in here and just to introduce Valerie Ross and Meredith Germain, or Terminal Ross and Jermaine. And they have, they are the attorneys that have been walking through the process with Ms. Washington, Quentin and his team. [0:22:57, 0:22:59]: On the [0:22:59, 0:23:19]: overall code line by line and we need to address the moratoria that were outstanding um that were in place due to the up upgrade or the approval of the UDC. So um as far as the um rent the bill to rent residential subdivisions [0:23:19, 0:23:36]: There's currently a House bill and a Senate bill in place. They have not been decided upon, but they are in the works. We were hoping to see what would happen as a result of that to determine some verbiage and if we should put verbiage in the code for those particular uses. [0:23:37, 0:23:41]: Um as it pertains to hookah and cigar, bar and lounge. [0:23:41, 0:23:43]: We have provided those. [0:23:43, 0:23:45]: um definitions in the code. [0:23:46, 0:23:50]: And they're currently allowed in C two and C two zoning districts. [0:23:51, 0:23:58]: I don't know, Valerie or Meredith, if you have anything additional to add. We did provide some information to the council earlier. [0:23:59, 0:24:01]: Um per client. [0:24:01, 0:24:03]: um attorney privilege. [0:24:03, 0:24:04]: Anything additional, ladies? [0:24:05, 0:24:25]: Um not really substantively. Um, BRECA's really addressed the issues that are before council tonight in relation to these two items on this slide. Um, as we discussed earlier, um, and as council is is aware, there is the House Bill 1093 and Senate Bill 493. [0:24:25, 0:24:29]: before that's down at the Georgia Georgia legislature that [0:24:29, 0:24:38]: um is pending and until we know whether or not it passes, um I do th I do agree with Breck in terms of just waiting and seeing if this is something that the city [0:24:39, 0:24:59]: would be allowed to do under state law as a local government based on the language in that pending house bill. And then secondly for um again regarding the hook and cigar bars, they are now added as permitted uses in those two commercial districts as of right. [0:24:59, 0:25:05]: So those are the two updates in relation to the moratoria and [0:25:05, 0:25:23]: That's all we have from that standpoint at this time. I think the biggest thing is just waiting to see whether or not those two bills will become state law from the Georgia legislature, which will be guidance for the city in terms of what to do with the bill to rent communities. [0:25:26, 0:25:26]: Okay. [0:25:27, 0:25:28]: Perfect, thank you. [0:25:29, 0:25:43]: And then um as you all know, um when we do update the entire code, we also have to update your zoning maps. So tonight in front of you, you also have a new city zoning map that you see right there. [0:25:44, 0:25:48]: And then you also have a new city overlay map. [0:25:48, 0:26:07]: Um and once again, those are consistent and match up with the text that you are reviewing here tonight. Excuse me, Casey. Um that actually comes right after the that's really next on the agenda. Oh, no problem. That'd be a separate vote, a separate discussion, I believe, and with the uh with the public as well. Okay. [0:26:08, 0:26:09]: Great. [0:26:09, 0:26:10]: Okay. [0:26:11, 0:26:20]: Is that is everything I have on the ordinance here tonight. Okay, good deal then. Appreciate that. Council, any questions for KC or Ms. Johnson or our attorneys online? [0:26:21, 0:26:22]: Uh yes, sir. [0:26:22, 0:26:23]: Go right here, please. [0:26:24, 0:26:30]: Uh thank you for that detailed um explanation and the understanding that this is something that [0:26:31, 0:26:34]: We all want to see because we want to understand that these zonings [0:26:35, 0:26:37]: Uh control what comes to the city. [0:26:38, 0:26:42]: And they must spell out quality in every form and fashion. [0:26:42, 0:26:52]: There's a couple of things that I know that we say we included a lot of these overlays uh in it some from citizen concerns that we've been uh uh dealing with and addressing. [0:26:53, 0:26:55]: uh such things as [0:26:55, 0:27:00]: uh the parking lots at the different buildings uh for public consumption. [0:27:01, 0:27:04]: In terms of the overall maintenance of the parking lot. [0:27:04, 0:27:07]: And then actually citing businesses who [0:27:07, 0:27:09]: Uh don't uh pick up the litter. [0:27:09, 0:27:15]: and trash uh on their parking lot. How is that uh covered in this new ULDC? [0:27:16, 0:27:32]: So that is actually covered under um I'd have to go back to your current code, but it's actually under your code enforcement and I believe it's titled environmental, if I'm not mistaken, in your current code. Um these will show how they're designed. [0:27:32, 0:27:37]: Um and then anything that's not in compliance when it comes to trash or debris. [0:27:38, 0:27:44]: Um it would just be it would follow up with the codes you already have in place and that would be your code enforcement team. [0:27:45, 0:27:50]: Okay, what we want what the attempt was to strengthen what we had because uh [0:27:50, 0:27:55]: When businesses I didn't think we had anything to cover where somebody had uh, you know [0:27:56, 0:27:59]: uh the parking lot needed to be paid or [0:27:59, 0:28:07]: significant uh or just trash period. We want the parking lots to be clean. So uh Ms. Johnson, maybe you can expand upon that. [0:28:07, 0:28:11]: We have a routine where maybe the code enforcement goes through. [0:28:11, 0:28:14]: And there's litter on the parking lot. [0:28:14, 0:28:22]: uh of a particular facility. We want that. I just had some cut uh residents complaining about litter at the public's own Eagles Landing parking lot. [0:28:23, 0:28:23]: So [0:28:23, 0:28:28]: How do how do we handle that under the current codes and is that covered under [0:28:28, 0:28:32]: Uh the fee schedule that we have put together or no. [0:28:33, 0:28:33]: So [0:28:34, 0:28:42]: Ne none of those things are specific to the UDC. We do have other codes, as Casey mentioned, that identify specifically property maintenance. [0:28:42, 0:28:46]: The two fee schedules that were adopted by the council. [0:28:46, 0:28:48]: Are covered by commercial [0:28:48, 0:28:52]: and our residential uh fee schedule. So those are handled separately. [0:28:53, 0:28:55]: But are are enforceable at this time. [0:28:56, 0:29:01]: Okay. They are enforceable at this time. Okay. We'll we'll follow up on that to make sure that um [0:29:02, 0:29:04]: What see what the fines are and that kind of thing. [0:29:04, 0:29:07]: We got the ten foot path requirement in there. [0:29:07, 0:29:11]: Uh is the fifty percent brick requirement before commercial, where is that reflected? [0:29:12, 0:29:23]: It's under the design standards. I'm sorry, go ahead, Casey. No, you you've nailed it. Go on ahead, Miss Marca. It's it's in the design standards. Um, I think it's chapter four, chapter six. [0:29:23, 0:29:28]: Um um of the UDC. So they are outlined specifically. [0:29:28, 0:29:33]: Uh, we wanted to pull in a lot of the requirements that we were placed for. [0:29:33, 0:29:35]: The bridges at Johtoco. [0:29:35, 0:29:38]: So yes, we have identified that as well. [0:29:39, 0:29:41]: Okay, something that I spoke with um [0:29:41, 0:29:45]: Mayor Pro Tem about earlier, maybe he wants to talk about it, which is [0:29:46, 0:29:48]: The requirement uh to have [0:29:48, 0:29:53]: A trash can uh at uh these different venus or [0:29:53, 0:29:57]: Requiring the tenant or the landlord to have a trash receptacle for each business. [0:29:57, 0:30:02]: uh outside you want to talk about that mayor pro tem or you want me to talk about it? [0:30:08, 0:30:10]: Member Pro Tem, are you available to to speak? [0:30:11, 0:30:13]: Yes, uh Mayor Ford, if I may. [0:30:13, 0:30:15]: Go right here, sir, please. Um [0:30:15, 0:30:22]: And I know um Casey and uh Mrs. Johnson sort of alluded to it in the environmental [0:30:22, 0:30:26]: And the um code enforcement section. [0:30:26, 0:30:28]: But I guess the question is [0:30:28, 0:30:30]: Can we require [0:30:31, 0:30:43]: those business owners in those uh strip areas, uh, can we require them, each business to have a trash receptacle outside of that business and they will be responsible. [0:30:43, 0:30:51]: for uh dumping those into um the larger dump to that that that may be in in the back of those uh strip areas. [0:30:52, 0:30:56]: Can can we can we demand that? Can we require those receptacles? [0:30:57, 0:30:59]: Well, I think we'd have to [0:31:00, 0:31:10]: If you're speaking of standalone commercial businesses, um, they're required to have their own separate receptacle, but for strip centers, they're also required to have. [0:31:10, 0:31:13]: А дамстер, а не кложір. [0:31:13, 0:31:16]: Um that meets the facade of the building. [0:31:16, 0:31:27]: And they're required to as part of the maintenance, property maintenance, is keep it, you know, not overflowing with trash, keep it clean, and keep there not being any outdoor debris. [0:31:28, 0:31:29]: So um [0:31:30, 0:31:32]: What is there a specific example? [0:31:32, 0:31:42]: Yeah, but the problem is uh in a lot of these areas, uh especially in the eateries, uh where you have eateries in these strip areas. [0:31:42, 0:31:48]: Um there are no receptacles and trash is just litter is just everywhere. [0:31:48, 0:31:51]: Uh yes, they have the dumpster in the back. [0:31:52, 0:31:55]: But I know if there was a receptacle. [0:31:55, 0:31:56]: Available [0:31:57, 0:31:58]: I think the um [0:31:59, 0:32:02]: customers would actually put their trash in [0:32:03, 0:32:14]: uh that receptacle as opposed to just throwing it out. But this is what we see. We see the result of no receptacle being available. And the trash and the litter just ends up [0:32:14, 0:32:17]: In the parking lot and and all over the place. [0:32:18, 0:32:19]: So I guess the question is [0:32:20, 0:32:40]: I'm sorry. Go ahead. Oh, I'm sorry. Um, this is Casey. I actually pulled open the code real fast. Um, and if um you let me elaborate, I will actually tell you that we did in the overlay. So under the streetscape design stanters, we actually are requesting that um [0:32:40, 0:33:00]: It's this is going to be in a um like a planting zone, is what we're calling it. So that 10 feet wide kind of pedestrian area. Um, that there will be trash res that trash receptacles shall be placed at street intersections and a maximum of 500 feet apart from one each other. We also have a requirement that both [0:32:59, 0:33:13]: bike racks should be installed on the properties. So we did actually include that in the code itself. And then the city would just have to use that when they, when new developments come through. [0:33:15, 0:33:18]: Well I and I'm still trying to see if there is [0:33:18, 0:33:20]: The question [0:33:20, 0:33:22]: As far as the existing [0:33:23, 0:33:26]: uh strip areas now where you have eateries. [0:33:26, 0:33:36]: I I'm not sure if if that if that speaks to that. Uh and I guess the the hard line question though is are those businesses required [0:33:36, 0:33:41]: to have a uh a receptacle out front. Yeah, they have the dumpster in the back. [0:33:42, 0:33:45]: But are they required to have something uh out front? [0:33:46, 0:33:52]: But I think what he said in addition to that is at the front door. So when they walk out the door [0:33:52, 0:33:56]: Is that but before they get to the car because it they're not gonna get to the strip. [0:33:57, 0:34:00]: Unless they're walking. So if they walk outside the front door. [0:34:00, 0:34:03]: And there's a trash receptacle and they're headed to the car. [0:34:03, 0:34:05]: Before they get to the car, they could put the trash. [0:34:05, 0:34:09]: in the receptacle, get in the car and leave. They will never make it to [0:34:09, 0:34:10]: The landscaping strip. [0:34:11, 0:34:13]: Or or or vice versa, when they are [0:34:14, 0:34:21]: driving up to the business and they get out of their car and just throw the trash out before they actually go into the into the business. [0:34:22, 0:34:23]: Or they may eat. [0:34:23, 0:34:24]: In the car. [0:34:24, 0:34:26]: And just throw those um [0:34:26, 0:34:28]: Containers out. [0:34:29, 0:34:31]: That's this is what we see. [0:34:34, 0:34:36]: Okay. Uh Mr. Gardner, go ahead, please. [0:34:37, 0:34:50]: Thank you, Mayor. Uh good evening, everybody. Um, Councilmember Alexander and Councilmember Thomas, I I I know exactly what you're talking about. So if you got a strip center with seven businesses in it, that each one of them have to have [0:34:50, 0:34:54]: A trust receptacle at the front of their individual businesses. [0:34:55, 0:34:58]: I I I would tell you aesthetically that would be [0:34:58, 0:35:01]: You're gonna find out that it's gonna be more challenging than than you think it will be. [0:35:02, 0:35:12]: Um, from the simple standpoint of now you've given opportunity for overflow of seven difference. So now you're gonna have potentially more trash actually sitting out there, especially in a high wind situation. [0:35:13, 0:35:15]: Um, like we had the other evening. [0:35:15, 0:35:19]: There's a potential that you will spread more garbage than than necess than necessary. [0:35:19, 0:35:27]: Um just because if they don't, then you add an additional burden that everybody's got to keep up with that trash while they're doing business. [0:35:27, 0:35:29]: Um, especially during [0:35:29, 0:35:30]: Um high peak. [0:35:31, 0:35:33]: Um buying season. [0:35:33, 0:35:38]: um Christmas and those types where people are just moving around and everybody in the store is going. [0:35:38, 0:35:40]: You just leave more potential. [0:35:40, 0:35:44]: for for trash to to to increase the trash level rather than decrease it. [0:35:44, 0:35:49]: Let me let me ask you this question. Can can can the owner [0:35:49, 0:35:52]: Although strip areas be required to [0:35:52, 0:35:56]: Not necessarily have a receptacle for each business. [0:35:56, 0:35:58]: But just have something available. [0:35:59, 0:36:00]: uh in that strip. [0:36:00, 0:36:04]: And and I think uh the the owners of those trips should be [0:36:05, 0:36:09]: uh required to to maintain that. Now even though it still may fall back to [0:36:09, 0:36:11]: those individual owners. [0:36:11, 0:36:15]: But now from the conversation I've had with some of those uh owners. [0:36:16, 0:36:18]: with some of those operators in those particular areas. [0:36:19, 0:36:27]: That the owners actually remove the receptacle because they did not want to be responsible for making sure that the trash get to the back. [0:36:28, 0:36:31]: of the strip to into the larger dumpster. [0:36:31, 0:36:36]: So I mean we know there's a problem, but I guess again, what is the solution to that that I don't want to [0:36:36, 0:36:39]: barg down his meeting, but I think you're correct, Mr Gardener with [0:36:40, 0:36:46]: you know, you're trying to solve one problem and you do create another one. But I think the issue though is we have to try to find [0:36:46, 0:36:56]: some uh solution to to that particular problem. So and that may be something that we can discuss uh a continual discussion with code enforcement as we go down this road. [0:36:57, 0:37:00]: Yes, sir. And and I think as staff mentioned. [0:37:00, 0:37:10]: The the one place you could probably is which makes it easier is on any new development as part of the development review that they we require that they have. [0:37:10, 0:37:16]: Let's say um external trac receptacle, decorative in nature,'cause you just don't want to put anything out there in front. [0:37:17, 0:37:31]: Um, that it has to be approved as part of the approval process when they're going through their site plan review, as we do with the dumpsters to make sure that the dumpsters are enclosed in the same facade as the building. Did they provide the you know, depending on this the length of the strip. [0:37:31, 0:37:32]: Um [0:37:33, 0:37:34]: Uh multiple [0:37:35, 0:37:40]: um troughs receptacles that are external of the of the individual business. [0:37:40, 0:37:42]: I think that that is a good go. [0:37:43, 0:37:44]: Um, started it and then [0:37:45, 0:37:47]: Look back, evaluate, see how that's going, and then [0:37:47, 0:37:50]: But retroactively trying to make'em do it and put those in. [0:37:51, 0:37:58]: You know, the the the crazy part but is you just don't want them putting any kind of trash cans out there because now you gotta control that portion of it. [0:37:58, 0:38:00]: 'Cause somebody gonna go there and put [0:38:00, 0:38:02]: different types. So you got a nice development. [0:38:03, 0:38:04]: Someone's putting out [0:38:04, 0:38:11]: a metal trash can or putting out a plastic trash can just to comply with the ordinance. Then you have to re regulate what type [0:38:11, 0:38:13]: Um going backwards. So [0:38:13, 0:38:16]: Um definitely on the new developments we can make that happen. [0:38:17, 0:38:29]: And and and just close it out my last comment. And I guess it goes back to Mrs. Johnson, code enforcement, because even at a lot of the service stations, uh, you do see some receptacles out there, but [0:38:30, 0:38:38]: uh those partic particular operators they just don't go out there and clean up. So I guess this may be something that code enforcement can sort of [0:38:38, 0:38:45]: Uh look into uh requirement and cite once they get the first warning after that, citations. [0:38:45, 0:38:46]: Yeah, okay. [0:38:47, 0:38:48]: Absolutely. [0:38:48, 0:38:53]: I yield back, Mayor. Oh thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Councilman Alexander, go ahead, please. [0:38:53, 0:39:13]: Yeah, I just like to close this out. That was an excellent conversation. And I just like to say we got to get the messages out to these businesses that it's not acceptable for your parking lot to be littered and filled with pie holes. Whatever we got to do, code enforcement or whomever, the message has to go out. Your parking lot, it's a cost of doing business. [0:39:13, 0:39:22]: Business. If you're in business, you serve food or whatever you serve, and your customer dumps that out, that's cost of doing business in the city. Thank you. [0:39:22, 0:39:26]: No problem. Any other comments from the council? Uh Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [0:39:28, 0:39:42]: Yeah, Mayor, w uh in that vein that we've been discussing, uh, is there anything in the UDC that uh that challenges business when uh we've had this discussion before about uh donation bins uh and being out front and [0:39:43, 0:39:46]: There it's it's like that the w I'm seeing more and more now. [0:39:46, 0:39:52]: Uh I know we had some, you know, perilous times for others and hardship for a lot of people, but [0:39:53, 0:39:57]: I don't think that we as a s as as as a city want to see [0:39:57, 0:40:14]: these overflowing and trash uh around these uh donation bins. I thought that we had something in place to address that. Uh wasn't to alleviate them, but that if you had to put them in the rear or whatever, that we had something in place uh pertaining to donation bands. So is there anything in this UDC that would [0:40:14, 0:40:16]: Even speak to that. [0:40:16, 0:40:17]: Or code enforcement. [0:40:18, 0:40:38]: There is already currently a donation um box ordinance um under code enforcement currently, not within the UDC. So we're following that, um, which was approved a few years ago by the council. Um, as it pertains to the properties where there's some litter um. [0:40:39, 0:40:51]: please provide, you know, what areas those are in particular. I can have my staff go out there and take a closer look and talk with the property owners specifically so we can address those things on a case by case basis. [0:40:52, 0:40:54]: But when you say there's something in in um [0:40:55, 0:40:57]: that we already have in place when it comes to the [0:40:58, 0:41:02]: uh donation box. What what do we have in place where that we're actually doing? [0:41:03, 0:41:05]: There's a separate ordinance, so they have to register with us. [0:41:06, 0:41:12]: They have to get a business license. They have to maintain that area. So if they're locations specifically. [0:41:13, 0:41:32]: that you know of where there's some additional any trash around the bin that we haven't actually took taken a look at, then we can address those areas in particular. But all of them that are out currently have to have a registration and have to get a license. And we have all the specific contact information to follow with those owners. [0:41:33, 0:41:36]: Also what does it w wasn't there something in that also about [0:41:36, 0:41:41]: the the uh site positioning of those that that they wouldn't be out front. [0:41:41, 0:41:45]: toward the street. Wasn't there something in the and also about the site positioning of them? [0:41:45, 0:41:54]: I can take a look at that. It's not in the UDC, but it is in another part of our code. So I can most certainly take a look at that and follow back up with you in regards to that. [0:41:56, 0:41:57]: Okay. [0:41:59, 0:42:03]: Okay, thank you, sir. Any other council comments thus far? [0:42:04, 0:42:05]: Anybody else? [0:42:06, 0:42:08]: Or one more if I could. [0:42:08, 0:42:13]: Just a hypothetical question. You know, there's a there's so many pages to read. [0:42:13, 0:42:17]: But if I business a wanted to open up [0:42:17, 0:42:21]: A business in downtown X. [0:42:21, 0:42:23]: And it was pink and red. Could I do it? [0:42:25, 0:42:29]: The code requires that we have a similar compatibility. [0:42:29, 0:42:40]: as it pertains to building structure, as it pertains to the color scheme, so that we don't have those specific issues. Because people get very creative with their logos and they like to have their [0:42:41, 0:42:43]: Signage we don't manage. Um [0:42:44, 0:42:45]: Outside of size [0:42:46, 0:42:48]: you know, length and width. [0:42:48, 0:43:02]: However, as far as building a facade similar to a property on Eagles Landing, it has to ensure that it meets the color scheme that is already laid out for that corridor. Casey, did you want to add anything? [0:43:02, 0:43:04]: No, you actually nailed it in. [0:43:05, 0:43:05]: Thank you. [0:43:06, 0:43:07]: Okay, all right, thank you. [0:43:08, 0:43:08]: Oh [0:43:09, 0:43:19]: I'm sorry. Why you said you just opened up the other one. The sign. How does this does this deal with this the sign issue? Do we finally solve that here or how where do we solve that? [0:43:19, 0:43:30]: The sign code is within the UDC. It has been updated. And again, this is our third hearing. Um, we had our first initial draft back in, I wanna say July of last year. [0:43:30, 0:43:41]: And that information is outlined in the code. So we've gone through, looked at best practices, our legal team has reviewed it, and we've come up with the draft that is before you tonight. [0:43:42, 0:43:47]: Okay, uh Casey, do we have a rendering of what a what it looks like or no? [0:43:48, 0:43:54]: A rendering of what what the sign or the the examples of what the sign would look like. [0:43:55, 0:44:11]: Well, when it comes to your sign ordinance, you actually only allow monument-based signs. So that would be the ones that would on the ground. You do still allow wall signage. Um, you do allow canopy signage. The one thing that, and I know um [0:44:12, 0:44:32]: Miss Valerie Ross, uh her and her team might step in, but when it comes to the signs, we can really only regulate the size, height, and location. We can't actually regulate the content. Um, but we did make sure that written in those codes, there are material requirements. So let's just say you have a brick that [0:44:32, 0:44:39]: Facade, then your monument sign should match that brick um texture. And then it also allows for um [0:44:40, 0:44:57]: plantings, uh landscaping that would go around it. Similar to the wall signs, those are designed to be on the front face. And then also we wouldn't be able to regulate content, but we do regulate whether they are illuminated or not. [0:44:58, 0:45:03]: And and finally, what triggers? Let's say I go up under a remodel. [0:45:03, 0:45:11]: Is there a percentage of remodel that triggers a new sign? Or is there when somebody does a remodel? [0:45:11, 0:45:17]: Um and they have an existing sign up there. What what amount of remodel triggers the fact that they have to have a new sign? [0:45:19, 0:45:39]: Um sure. We don't actually have, I don't, well, it's not really tied to a remodel per se. However, if they do want to modify a sign and let's just say that sign is legal non-conforming, it was built, let's just say 15 years ago and no longer meets the code, they would not be able to modify that. [0:45:39, 0:45:45]: sign they would actually have to come in and create a sign that is consistent with the new codes. [0:45:46, 0:45:50]: All right. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you so much. Casey and uh Ms. Johnson. [0:45:50, 0:46:10]: Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. So in in closing with um Casey and Brecken, would you all sort of just briefly though, speak to the fact I know a lot of uh business owners, developers have been coming to the city trying to do business and I think we've sorta been holding them off until this [0:46:10, 0:46:21]: This was completed. So all of those uh uh new developers and business owners is out there watching, can you sort of speak to uh when this is passed tonight? [0:46:21, 0:46:30]: uh how we are open for business and how we can you know how we will actually be going forward. I I I've I've heard some rumblings about [0:46:31, 0:46:32]: Um you know, some [0:46:33, 0:46:47]: some developers and some business all will sort of put on hold until this was pa was passed and hopefully it will pass tonight. So can you sort of speak to to the future and and just sort of ease the mind of [0:46:47, 0:46:48]: Hope that um [0:46:48, 0:46:52]: That have been waiting to come forward. Can you can you in case start to speak to any of that? [0:46:53, 0:46:54]: Sure. [0:46:54, 0:47:01]: So we do have businesses that have um developers, builders who have come to us and of course. [0:47:01, 0:47:21]: The code manages how they design, it manages their costs, it manages their time frame for how they're going to move forward. And yes, there are while we can't talk about specifics, there are several developers who are awaiting to see if when the UDC will be passed. [0:47:21, 0:47:24]: UDC, which is different from our current code. [0:47:25, 0:47:28]: Allows for a little bit more flexibility in design. [0:47:29, 0:47:37]: Um, it does require uh some additional things like streetscapes and those receptacles and those 10-foot-wide sidewalks and things like that. [0:47:37, 0:47:57]: But it also provides a little bit more flexibility, a little bit more ability to clarity in the code, because our current code has you go in eight different places for one development. And we've tried to make sure that we can consolidate that. And I think uh with our attorneys on board, we've been able in our consultant, we've been able. [0:47:57, 0:48:17]: To do that. So, yes, we are open for business. As I said on Friday at the grand opening, are the groundbreaking for Argento. We are open for business. We're ready to move as fast as these developers are moving within the parameters of our code. So, yes, a lot of new exciting development ahead. [0:48:17, 0:48:19]: as a result of the UDC approval. [0:48:20, 0:48:26]: Thank you. Thank I yield back, Mayor. Thank you. I appreciate it. Thank you very much. Uh any other comments for the council? [0:48:27, 0:48:47]: Okay, if not, this is actually considered a public hearing. So I need to open it up for any comments for uh what has been briefed thus far on the UDC. And uh I need to look through the clerk, Vanessa Holiday, if you have anything, any comments for um their approval. [0:48:47, 0:48:50]: of this uh UDC at all. [0:48:52, 0:49:04]: Mayor, I am not seeing anything in the chat. We would need to check to see if there's anything on Facebook online. Ms. Uh Ms. Thornton, do you have anything on Facebook online and comments for? [0:49:04, 0:49:12]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. There was a um a comment about noise mitigation regarding the topic. [0:49:13, 0:49:26]: Okay. And I think we already have public comment read in the record on that as well. Okay. On that note, then if if there are none uh for, are there any against any other comments against it all that you see, Miss Uh Holliday? [0:49:29, 0:49:31]: Are there no comments listed? [0:49:31, 0:49:35]: Okay. Ms. Yes one step up, please. Ms. Torn. [0:49:39, 0:49:46]: Ms. Thornton, do you have anything on on Facebook that have any additional comments against the UDC and its approval process? [0:49:50, 0:49:51]: Sir not at this time. [0:49:52, 0:49:54]: Thank you. Uh uh Mayor Putem, go ahead, please. [0:49:55, 0:50:06]: Councilman I'm sorry. Councilman Alzheimer's okay, I'm sorry. Yeah, I think we've had a lot of discussion and we've been going over this for the last two years. I want to thank the staff. [0:50:06, 0:50:08]: I want to thank Collaborative Firm. [0:50:08, 0:50:11]: And the citizens for participating'cause [0:50:11, 0:50:13]: Everybody be at the ground. So [0:50:13, 0:50:14]: It's time. [0:50:14, 0:50:17]: For a motion and I make a motion to approve [0:50:17, 0:50:24]: the adoption of the Stockbridge UDC rewrite as recommended by staff. [0:50:24, 0:50:25]: Is there a second? [0:50:25, 0:50:28]: Miraple Tim, Thomas Secondan. Okay. [0:50:29, 0:50:30]: All in favor, please indicate. [0:50:31, 0:50:32]: All right. [0:50:32, 0:50:38]: Okay. Unanimous decision. Okay. Thank you very much. All right, appreciate it, ladies and gentlemen. All right. So [0:50:40, 0:50:57]: Now we'll go on to number six and that's state City of Stockbridge adoption of the official zoning map and overlay district map. This is also the third reading. The City of Stockbridge Mayor and City Council will review the proposed official zoning map and overlay district map to be amended in conjunction with the Unified Development Code UDC. [0:50:57, 0:51:01]: Uh this item item is runs concurrently with the UDC. So Ms. Johnson, please. [0:51:02, 0:51:15]: Yes, so this is the official zoning map that would accompany our 19 districts from 19 districts to 13 districts in the UDC so we can consolidate and move forward. [0:51:15, 0:51:25]: The also on the docket is the uh parkway overlay district and the downtown village districts, which are overlays. [0:51:25, 0:51:28]: to identify and speci specify growth [0:51:29, 0:51:36]: uh standards as well as uses that are allowed in particular areas throughout the city. If we'll go back to the zoning map, if you would. [0:51:37, 0:51:38]: Uh Casey. [0:51:39, 0:51:40]: So um [0:51:40, 0:51:48]: The zoning map and overlay will both be digitized documents. We are working with a consultant currently. [0:51:48, 0:52:01]: Who is creating a web-based GIS platform for our public to be able to go in, check the zoning of their property, ease of staff being able to check zoning, and the public overall. [0:52:02, 0:52:07]: So um this is part of that process and staff has recommended approval as has the [0:52:07, 0:52:10]: Planning Commission and we're looking for a vote from the council tonight. [0:52:12, 0:52:15]: All right. Council, any questions in reference to the zoning map? [0:52:16, 0:52:17]: Concerns. [0:52:19, 0:52:19]: Sure. [0:52:19, 0:52:21]: We go right in, uh Castleman Alexander. [0:52:21, 0:52:26]: We've had a lot of discussion about downtown. Could we go to the downtown village? [0:52:26, 0:52:29]: And for the public consumption, can we talk about [0:52:29, 0:52:32]: uh what our new downtown standards are [0:52:32, 0:52:33]: And um [0:52:34, 0:52:38]: uh the adoption uh what the th the adoption of this overlay will mean. [0:52:39, 0:52:41]: for businesses wanting to come to downtown. [0:52:41, 0:52:50]: So you want them to take this zoning map and focus in on the downtown area? Is that what you get in there? Right. There's a downtown village, right? Yes, on the overlay on the next line, KC. [0:52:52, 0:52:57]: Oops, one second. No worries. Um, so that is your green area. [0:52:58, 0:53:04]: Oops, let's see if I can um, well I won't be able to zoom in unless I stop it. [0:53:06, 0:53:08]: Um, it actually follows your [0:53:09, 0:53:15]: Um boundaries for the Main Street area. Hold on, I'll share it in just one second again. [0:53:15, 0:53:17]: Let's see if I can zoom in for you. [0:53:24, 0:53:27]: Let's see if I can get this one larger. [0:53:30, 0:53:31]: Oh, it might not let me. [0:53:33, 0:53:47]: Okay, it's getting larger. Is it getting there? Sorry about that. It's working with the PDF and not the true GIS file. So Casey, while you're while you're pulling that up, the the the green areas, which is the downtown area. [0:53:47, 0:54:07]: Uh focuses on heavy streetscape requirements to make sure we have wide sidewalks. We know we got the amphitheater, we have city hall, we have the municipal court, and we also have the upcoming cultural arts center. So our goal here was to specifically uh list out types of uses. We want people to come and do. [0:54:07, 0:54:11]: some mixed juice. We want restaurants. We want a little bit of of [0:54:12, 0:54:16]: Um, entertainment uses in the area that would allow for [0:54:16, 0:54:21]: more development to spur in that area and more activity, quite frankly, in our downtown area. [0:54:22, 0:54:26]: So downtown, I don't know if if you're looking for any specifics as far as design. [0:54:27, 0:54:33]: But on the use side, um it does require that certain uses are allowed, it does prohibit certain uses. [0:54:33, 0:54:37]: that we would want to have on the outskirts of our downtown areas. [0:54:38, 0:54:43]: So um that is outlined as well and you all have a copy of that before you tonight. [0:54:43, 0:54:45]: Uh anything. [0:54:48, 0:54:50]: Go Go ahead, please. [0:54:51, 0:54:55]: Councilman Alexander, you were gonna say something? Yes, uh now of course downtown [0:54:55, 0:54:57]: For the most part, especially the historic part. [0:54:58, 0:54:59]: There can't be [0:54:59, 0:55:01]: There's no space for a monument sign. [0:55:01, 0:55:04]: So what what the what what does that code look like? [0:55:05, 0:55:09]: For the public, I I'm I'm on Martin Luther King Senior Heritage and [0:55:09, 0:55:13]: I wanna put a sign on my building. What is that gonna look like to the public? [0:55:17, 0:55:25]: Sure. So those are going to be your wall signs or possibly potential canopy signs that would be on the building themselves. [0:55:26, 0:55:26]: Mm-hmm. [0:55:27, 0:55:34]: Okay. Will they what it will they be backlit? Will they have lighting cast down? How how what what type of lighting? What what would it look? [0:55:36, 0:55:56]: They would be primarily downgas lighting and up lit, so backlit lighting like you would see in a West Village or a downtown Fayetteville, those types of areas where it's we're not in Linux Station, but we are a small downtown area enough, you know, to accommodate some. [0:55:56, 0:56:05]: uh versatility and you know something very different in the downtown area. We wanted the area to be create creative. [0:56:05, 0:56:05]: Um [0:56:06, 0:56:12]: but we wanted to just make sure that we allow standards that are typical of downtown areas of our size. [0:56:12, 0:56:17]: and character. So we've incorporated those as part of the overview. [0:56:17, 0:56:19]: Um but I think [0:56:19, 0:56:35]: For clarity, we were just in down we was in Fayetteville where the new city hall is. Or are you talking about the that type of lettering or the older square in in Fayetteville? Are you talking about those letters that they'll attach to the building and then [0:56:35, 0:56:36]: Cast light on them. [0:56:37, 0:56:39]: This would be like a a plated sign. [0:56:40, 0:56:50]: where you would have maybe a, I mean there's so many different types, but it wouldn't necessarily be channel letters, which are typical outs in the outskirts outside of your downtown areas. [0:56:50, 0:57:10]: Um, because you want the the signage within the downtown area to have some um continuity throughout, which would be a little bit different. Like you wouldn't have those ground monument signs because one, you you'll be walking, you want to encourage people to get out of their cars instead of having ground signage there versus an Eagle's Landing or Patrick Henry or [0:57:10, 0:57:12]: Or North Henry Boulevard. [0:57:13, 0:57:17]: Okay. Well Mr. Gardner, you you were just um you was in Fayetteville with us, so [0:57:17, 0:57:23]: Is this something similar to what we're looking at that we saw over there? Just wanna just wanna see. [0:57:24, 0:57:38]: Yeah, it'll be similar. So your signs will be the type of signs that come off the building and hang just um I guess I don't know how tall, seven feet or whatever that that height is, those type of signs and then the individual business signs they'd be allowed to have. [0:57:38, 0:57:41]: Uh something similar to what you saw on uh [0:57:42, 0:57:47]: On the bond and then if I try to remember did they have the signage on the [0:57:48, 0:57:58]: the type of canopy signs um when we went to the scoops. I can't remember. But yes, those are your typical downtown signs. [0:58:00, 0:58:01]: All right, thank you. [0:58:02, 0:58:03]: Any other comment, council? [0:58:04, 0:58:07]: Yeah, may I four my problem? [0:58:08, 0:58:14]: I I think I heard someone else. I I yield to give them an opportunity, but I do have another question, but I yield to to the voice I just heard. [0:58:16, 0:58:18]: Should you miss Cap? Yeah, go ahead, please. [0:58:19, 0:58:28]: Is there a um what's the requirement as far as building in downtown height wise, stories wise? How many stories can we build in downtown? [0:58:32, 0:58:36]: Sure. So the maximum height of any story could be would be four stories. [0:58:39, 0:58:40]: Okay. [0:58:42, 0:58:44]: Is that on your question, Ms. Camp? [0:58:44, 0:58:46]: Yes. Okay, anything else? [0:58:48, 0:58:50]: Okay, uh Merrick Tim, I believe it's on you, sir. [0:58:51, 0:58:54]: Okay. Um I want to ask um about [0:58:54, 0:58:59]: Uh in field development when we talk about downtown. [0:58:59, 0:59:01]: Uh, you know, building within [0:59:01, 0:59:07]: uh unused uh underutilized land within an existing development. [0:59:07, 0:59:08]: Um [0:59:08, 0:59:10]: mixed use or what have so [0:59:11, 0:59:18]: All of these things are inclusive and allowable in our downtown. Do I have that correct? [0:59:21, 0:59:26]: Are you speaking of allowing additional businesses that will be in bill? [0:59:27, 0:59:32]: Right. You know, uh in field development refers to building [0:59:32, 0:59:37]: Within uh unused or underutilized land. [0:59:37, 0:59:40]: Mm-hmm. That that may be in your downtown. [0:59:41, 0:59:42]: Um [0:59:42, 0:59:45]: And I guess, you know, being able to [0:59:45, 0:59:48]: Uh, the existing development patterns. [0:59:48, 0:59:53]: Um, you know, that are not typically uh inclusive in those urban areas, but [0:59:54, 0:59:55]: But yes, you know. [0:59:56, 0:59:57]: It's not we know that, you know. [0:59:58, 1:00:01]: It's not a lot of vacant land in downtown, but [1:00:01, 1:00:03]: If someone wanted to come in and utilize [1:00:04, 1:00:04]: Um [1:00:05, 1:00:08]: um unused or underused land. [1:00:08, 1:00:15]: Um are they any uh prohibitions uh for for folks to c um I know they have still conformed to [1:00:15, 1:00:21]: to the you know, to the codes, to the zoning and so forth and so on. But is there anything that would restrict [1:00:21, 1:00:22]: Is there are there? [1:00:24, 1:00:32]: trying to some try to form the question so it's understandable but um and i i you may have uh alluded to you know to some of these answers before [1:00:32, 1:00:36]: But I guess I'm trying to get a better picture of potentially [1:00:36, 1:00:39]: Uh developers coming in into downtown. [1:00:40, 1:00:43]: uh and being able to to to be o [1:00:43, 1:00:49]: Uh and I guess I guess I'm sorry to answer my own question about what's what's allowed and what's not allowed. [1:00:52, 1:01:11]: Yes, so the code actually spells out there's a variety of things when it comes to infill and even when it comes to um new larger lots, but in this one specifically, um the downtown area has specific standards and when it comes to the height, the the density, the bulk. [1:01:11, 1:01:17]: the orientation, even down to the materials and the setbacks. So [1:01:17, 1:01:37]: In order to infill, you will actually have to be basically compatible to what's around you as well. Um, we did allow certain instances in order to promote things like the outdoor dining and things like that. So they do have a little um flexibility that even other businesses had, and that it'll just be [1:01:37, 1:01:43]: how it lines up and how that final design is. But everything is still orientated to the street. [1:01:43, 1:02:03]: with the sidewalks, with the lighting, with different things like that. If it is right in the heart of downtown, you know, they could have a zero lot line and allowing them to build close to a building. So as long as they stay within those parameters, they would be able to build and I believe you would be happy with what you see because it would matter [1:02:03, 1:02:05]: catch that downtown compatibility. [1:02:05, 1:02:15]: Okay, great, great. Thank you. I know my my question was a little abstract, but I I think you answered it. We know where you're going. Thank you. [1:02:16, 1:02:20]: Okay, Kelsey, any other questions at all? In reference to the zoning map. [1:02:22, 1:02:23]: Really? [1:02:23, 1:02:33]: All right, once again, this is uh a public hearing. So I'd like to open it up and uh for any anybody, any public comments that may be online. [1:02:33, 1:02:45]: uh for uh approval of this zoning map miss holiday do you see have anybody at all please no no comments sir okay uh and uh miss thorton how about on facebook [1:02:49, 1:02:52]: Mayor Forward, at this time there are no additional comments on Facebook. [1:02:52, 1:03:03]: Okay. And I'd like to ask once again in reference to anything against the zoning maps. And Miss Holiday, once again, anything against the zoning maps? Any comments at all? [1:03:03, 1:03:07]: There are no comments, sir. All right. Ms. Shannon Thornton. [1:03:12, 1:03:17]: No, sir. No additional comments. Okay. On that note, Council, I need a motion to adopt the zoning maps, please. [1:03:18, 1:03:19]: Oh my god [1:03:19, 1:03:21]: Okay, Ms. Gantt, so moved. Is there a second? [1:03:23, 1:03:25]: Uh miss Barber, is that your hands up for a second? [1:03:28, 1:03:29]: Miss Barber, your hand was up for a second. [1:03:35, 1:03:44]: Okay, I okay, I heard I'm reading your lips here. Okay. All right. On that note, all in favor of the motion, please please acknowledge, indicate. [1:03:44, 1:03:46]: All right, you now have the season. Fantastic. [1:03:46, 1:04:00]: Thank you. Well thank you. Thank you. Matter of fact, uh uh Ms. Casey and and the attorneys, you're more than welcome to stay as long as you like. It's up to you in this aspect, unless you have something else to to stay online for. You can go if you want. [1:04:00, 1:04:07]: All right. Thank you. Good evening, everyone. Thanks a lot. Appreciate it. Appreciate you. Thank you. And Danielle as well. [1:04:07, 1:04:09]: We're going to new business. Mr. Gardner. [1:04:10, 1:04:15]: For new business, sir. I'm sorry, excuse me earlier. You have something you need to to add add real quick here. [1:04:18, 1:04:19]: The trying. [1:04:19, 1:04:26]: not muted uh no you're not muted so i hear you all right uh give me a quick second yeah [1:04:27, 1:04:29]: When I get to it. [1:04:31, 1:04:35]: All right. Um I'm not gonna read the entire thing, I'm gonna actually [1:04:36, 1:04:39]: Kind of power first, but tonight we have with us our new grant administrator. [1:04:39, 1:04:41]: Miss Kelly Russell. [1:04:41, 1:04:47]: Um Kelly Russell comes to us with over twenty-five years experience in grant writing grant administration. [1:04:47, 1:04:49]: Um, having worked for [1:04:50, 1:04:55]: A number of federal state private and nonprofit agencies to include the Justice Department, FEMA. [1:04:56, 1:05:00]: Um DHS Department of Human Health Serv Health and Human Services. [1:05:01, 1:05:02]: Um, Hud. [1:05:02, 1:05:10]: And has worked on numerous grants related to each of those various different um departments from law enforcement grants to the CARES Act. [1:05:11, 1:05:13]: Um to ARPA. [1:05:13, 1:05:16]: And always we on our state side working with El Meg. [1:05:17, 1:05:21]: Um our state uh maintenance improvement grant, which is L Meg, short for L Meg. [1:05:22, 1:05:37]: Um sorry, she miss uh Russell holds a master's degree in human resources from Central Michigan University. She's also a member of the National Grants Management Association and is currently working on her certified grants management specialist certification. [1:05:38, 1:05:40]: Um, welcome aboard. Today was the first day. [1:05:41, 1:05:43]: And uh we look forward. We had a wonderful meeting. She is [1:05:44, 1:05:59]: I'm gonna start working on some of our policies and procedures related to grants and you guys will see her presenting those um next month. So she's got already got deadlines and assignments ready to go, as well as looking at some funding for our police department. [1:05:59, 1:06:02]: Um as it relates to the Cops and Cobra grants. [1:06:03, 1:06:06]: uh and some other grants that uh we haven't looked at yet. [1:06:06, 1:06:08]: Uh so uh welcome her award. [1:06:09, 1:06:26]: I think she is on here. I don't know if you guys are allowed to see. Yeah, she's on board. She's actually unmuted as well. Welcome, uh, Miss Russell. Thank you for being with uh City of Stockbridge and choosing choosing us to be your next assignment. Okay. Congratulations. Thank you so much. Anything you wanted to add before we uh move on. [1:06:26, 1:06:43]: Oh yes, absolutely. Good evening, Honorable Mayor and City Council. I just wanted to let you all know I'm happy to be part of the team. Today was my first day with the city and I I received a very warm welcome from my colleagues. So I'm looking very I'm looking forward to working with each and every one of you and doing some great things with the city. [1:06:45, 1:06:46]: Thank you. Okay. [1:06:46, 1:06:48]: Good deal. All right. [1:06:49, 1:07:09]: You appreciate it. Okay. What we'll do, we'll move on. Thank you, Miss Russell. Obviously, you can stay as long as you like, Miss Russell. Uh we'll move on. Uh number seven was taken off. Number eight, council consideration to approve renewal contract RFP number 2020-0027, professional permitting and building inspection services. [1:07:09, 1:07:11]: safe build. Ms. Johnson, please. [1:07:14, 1:07:24]: Good evening again, Mayor and Council. Yes, uh before you is the renewal for the Safe Built contract. Uh Safe Built handles our permitting. [1:07:25, 1:07:36]: um plan reviews, inspections, and uh civil engineering reviews for all residential, industrial, and commercial plans that come into the office. [1:07:36, 1:07:40]: Um, they have been uh a great asset, I think, to the city. [1:07:41, 1:07:46]: Um, they started on probably within a month of my coming to the city last year. [1:07:46, 1:07:48]: And we've had a great um [1:07:48, 1:07:52]: A great past, you know, ten, eleven months. [1:07:52, 1:07:56]: So what I'm doing is coming before you all with a request to renew [1:07:56, 1:07:57]: The um [1:07:58, 1:08:01]: The contract for safe built, this will be the first renewal. [1:08:02, 1:08:06]: And um as a result of this particular agreement. [1:08:07, 1:08:11]: Um I've uh been ab been able to negotiate for a reduction in the [1:08:12, 1:08:22]: overall cost of revenue payment to St. Bill from 60% to 55%. So that there would be a 55-45 split. [1:08:22, 1:08:30]: Safe built to the city versus the current 6040 split that's in place under the current contract that's due to end. [1:08:30, 1:08:31]: Yeah, the end of April. [1:08:32, 1:08:38]: So staff is recommending um approval for this um case and asks that you would do the same. [1:08:39, 1:08:42]: Okay, thank you. Council, kind of questions do you have for Miss Johnson? [1:08:44, 1:08:54]: Yes. Go right ahead to it. Ms. Johnson, uh you have described this uh uh safe build as uh your recommendation to approve them. [1:08:55, 1:09:00]: We just keep hearing these grumblings uh from developers and businesses who are [1:09:00, 1:09:03]: having particular issues um [1:09:04, 1:09:07]: In terms of overall timeliness, so [1:09:07, 1:09:10]: Do you have like a matrix where you say, well [1:09:11, 1:09:22]: This uh plan goes into the system through SATE built and it should be returned to you. How is that graded out in terms of when a builder or a developer submits a plan to you? [1:09:22, 1:09:26]: And you should have it back by what day. Is there are they given a deadline? [1:09:27, 1:09:32]: So currently um the plan reviewers for our [1:09:32, 1:09:52]: commercial and residential projects are being reviewed by multiple reviewers. It's our we have our fire marshal, we have our engineer, we have our building inspector, and we have the zoning to review simultaneously. Thankfully I've been able to hire some additional staff so we're able to um [1:09:52, 1:10:03]: crank out these reviews much faster. However, you know, I'm the director and I'm reviewing plans for all of these projects, commercial and [1:10:03, 1:10:17]: You know, we typically get plans back between about 10 and 15 days. Our ultimate goal, being fully staffed, is to have everything back to plan reviewers or to these customers within 10 business days. [1:10:17, 1:10:23]: Uh, which gives each of the reviewers ample time to review and provide initial comments. [1:10:23, 1:10:33]: And then typically we meet with the customer if there are major changes so that they're clear on what the path is to getting through and streamlining the process. [1:10:33, 1:10:45]: So this is a work in progress. And that's why we have gone through this process. And I'm in the process of hiring additional staff to assist with the plan review process, because we have a lot of plans that have come in. [1:10:45, 1:10:47]: And as you know, business is booming here. [1:10:48, 1:10:52]: And we want to be able to respond accurately and timely to these customers. [1:10:53, 1:10:56]: Right. So if I'm a developer and I come to the city. [1:10:56, 1:11:05]: Uh uh do they have I don't because I'm not familiar with um how this process works. Do they have any contact with the public or is it [1:11:05, 1:11:13]: Is our who's contacted when I come in as a developer? Who who am I contacting first? And do I have any contact with Safe Build? [1:11:14, 1:11:19]: Initially, um, when plans are submitted, they'll go to the permit coordinator. [1:11:19, 1:11:23]: Who is a safe built staff member who is in our office? [1:11:23, 1:11:25]: Monday through Friday, eight to five. [1:11:25, 1:11:32]: Everything comes to streamline to that individual. That information is uploaded. It is then reviewed by staff. [1:11:32, 1:11:52]: Um that individual follows up with the coordinator, follows up with the customer to let them know, hey, we've got some comments to your plans. Please review. Here's the information to contact folks and they'll provide that. So that's part of our process. As I mentioned before, it's about 10 to 15 days. [1:11:52, 1:11:59]: days roughly to get some comments back for customers that submit plans. [1:11:59, 1:12:03]: Right. So if I'm a customer and I'm in in this process and [1:12:04, 1:12:06]: There was some type of issue that is [1:12:07, 1:12:09]: uh brought up. Who do I how how how does that work? [1:12:10, 1:12:19]: Do they contact the permit coordinator? Do they come to you? Yes. Whom do they go to? They typically comment the permit coordinator because we want to streamline the process so that [1:12:19, 1:12:22]: Customers aren't trying to track down individuals specifically. [1:12:22, 1:12:28]: Everything goes to the permit coordinator and she'll, you know, he or she will send out information. [1:12:28, 1:12:32]: to the uh plan reviewer to address any concerns. [1:12:33, 1:12:36]: Um and that's what that's what our process currently is. [1:12:37, 1:12:40]: Well I'll just close by saying this uh as a [1:12:41, 1:12:43]: The citizen, as a business. [1:12:43, 1:12:48]: I think it might be h we did like how to do business with Stockbridge in terms of [1:12:48, 1:12:49]: Uh procurement. [1:12:50, 1:12:55]: It might be helpful. Maybe we could do something like that in community development to familiarize [1:12:55, 1:12:58]: Uh some uh people were working with. [1:12:58, 1:12:59]: What the process is and to get [1:13:00, 1:13:01]: You in front of people. [1:13:01, 1:13:03]: So that they they see your face and uh [1:13:04, 1:13:05]: They understand how the process works. [1:13:06, 1:13:23]: And we'll most certainly do that once COVID kind of cuts down. That was initially part of my rollout when I started last year, and most certainly will be the rollout now that the UDC and the maps are adopted. And we'll do a rollout to our customers, business owners, and our development community as a result. [1:13:24, 1:13:25]: All right, thank you. [1:13:26, 1:13:29]: You know the question cut I'm sorry, remote. [1:13:30, 1:13:32]: Okay. I have a question. [1:13:32, 1:13:34]: Is the um [1:13:35, 1:13:46]: Ms. Ms. Johnson, so when they can't contact that person, that first point of contact, because I too have had a lot of complaints from developers. [1:13:47, 1:13:48]: Who do they go to? [1:13:49, 1:13:53]: At what point do you get involved? Because right now [1:13:54, 1:14:01]: I hear so many complaints that we have the we have the um reputation of [1:14:01, 1:14:10]: Not um calling people back or not responding, and developers will say something like, Oh, you you're [1:14:10, 1:14:20]: you know, your project's gonna take forever because we can't get permitting or we can't get a s a simple question answered. So who are they need w where do they need to go? [1:14:21, 1:14:30]: Well, my information is online as well as in every email that I send out. And I've not heard specifically of these complaints. I I'd most certainly want to follow up with these individuals. [1:14:30, 1:14:36]: But I have not received those complaints. But my information is available and is provided. [1:14:36, 1:14:41]: um to any and all customers that we have who have additional questions and [1:14:41, 1:14:42]: Um [1:14:42, 1:14:49]: that there's no issue with contacting them. So I'd be most certainly interested to follow up with um [1:14:50, 1:15:01]: Some of these folks you're saying are complaining. I haven't heard any of those, but I would like to follow up them with them one-on-one to make sure that we're addressing their needs and getting their information back in a timely fashion. [1:15:05, 1:15:06]: Okay, great. Thanks. [1:15:06, 1:15:08]: Miraport Tim Thomas, go ahead, please. [1:15:08, 1:15:09]: Thank you. [1:15:10, 1:15:30]: Mrs. Johnson, you and I have sort of talked uh since you've been here of this process, and I had informed you before uh that I initiated uh started this conversation, did some research to see how other municipalities was was doing their permitting and that. [1:15:29, 1:15:40]: have you know um inspections et cetera et cetera and uh and so you know I just wanna thank you for uh entertaining my questions and my thoughts. [1:15:41, 1:15:43]: Now, even though you're bringing this tonight. [1:15:43, 1:15:47]: But as I mentioned, uh, you and I have been talking about this for a while. [1:15:47, 1:15:50]: And um I I do have some [1:15:50, 1:16:10]: some reservations about where we are in the city of Stockbridge. But I do understand that uh, you know, things sort of take time for us to be able to um, you know, to stand on our own. I I sort of just put it that way. But that is, you know, still sort of, you know, my concern. So I'm okay. [1:16:10, 1:16:12]: with um [1:16:12, 1:16:13]: Another year. [1:16:13, 1:16:19]: uh going in this direction. But I just want the council to know that because see they know that [1:16:19, 1:16:39]: um a year or so ago, two years ago that I was pushing hard uh in this arena. So I just want them to know that you know I'm still pushing, but I you and I talk. So I make sure that all of my concerns and my questions, you and I thought it had that dialogue. And I appreciate you taking the time to uh [1:16:43, 1:16:44]: I think you're now frozen there, sir. [1:16:46, 1:16:47]: Mirple Tim. [1:16:50, 1:16:56]: I think it's stuck in time. Um to wait to get out and some of the things that you are trying to accomplish. [1:16:56, 1:16:57]: uh in this arena. [1:16:57, 1:17:00]: And I know that, you know, you just been here [1:17:00, 1:17:03]: I guess what less than a year, maybe a year. [1:17:04, 1:17:05]: And uh yeah. [1:17:05, 1:17:08]: Yeah, and I guess it's gonna take you a little time, so [1:17:08, 1:17:22]: Um I'm patient, you know, as they say Rome wasn't built in a year. So but again, I just want to sort of mention those facts that you know that um when I call and we have talked, you have taken the time to discuss. [1:17:22, 1:17:33]: future with me and I understand that and I would encourage uh all of the council members just to um you know to give you a call and and just make a schedule and to talk about [1:17:34, 1:17:35]: Where you're trying to go. [1:17:36, 1:17:37]: Uh with permitting [1:17:37, 1:17:41]: uh you know in the set of stockbridge and I think they will sort of see [1:17:41, 1:18:01]: uh you know your goals and what you're trying to accomplish because as you have expressed it to me, I do see that. Now I'm not saying that I agree with everything at all your timeline, but I do understand and and I do see that and I'm willing to allow you to uh do what you need to do like because you know you just been here [1:18:01, 1:18:12]: a short time and you need to be able to um, you know, do what you think, you know, the set of thyers need to do. So I just wanted to thank you for that and uh you have my support. [1:18:13, 1:18:15]: My pleasure, my person. Thank you. [1:18:16, 1:18:17]: Uh Councilwoman Barber, go ahead, please. [1:18:19, 1:18:21]: Thank you, Mayor Ford. I started [1:18:22, 1:18:26]: Appreciative of uh Miss Johnson and Saint Phil for [1:18:26, 1:18:28]: Uh renegotiating. [1:18:28, 1:18:31]: this contract. So that's a cost savings to the city. [1:18:32, 1:18:32]: Okay. [1:18:32, 1:18:33]: I will [1:18:34, 1:18:37]: motion to approve one year renewal contract. [1:18:38, 1:18:43]: Um for professional permitting and building inspection services would say. [1:18:45, 1:18:48]: But she made a motion. Okay, Miss Gantt second that motion. Any further discussion? [1:18:50, 1:18:51]: If not all in favor, please indicate. [1:18:52, 1:18:52]: Right. [1:18:54, 1:18:55]: Okay, Mr. Blount. [1:18:56, 1:19:01]: Okay, I got thank you. Okay, unanimous decision. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Thanks so much. Okay. [1:19:02, 1:19:16]: Uh council consideration to approve the purchase of phosphorus CC twenty fifty removal chemical from Cedar Champ chem in an amount of forty thousand dollars. The funding source is from the sewer department budgeted funds. Mr. Aaron, please. [1:19:17, 1:19:23]: Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. I'll let uh Mr. Brad Holzinger speak to this. He's our sewer superintendent. [1:19:23, 1:19:23]: Okay. [1:19:24, 1:19:44]: Thank thank you, Mayor and Council, for allowing me to speak. This product is used to remove phosphorus, which is one of our uh parameters that the EPD has set on our permit. Uh we ran, we run jar tests to determine the best product to do the job. [1:19:44, 1:19:57]: I mean the phosphorus limit is such a low limit, you don't there's not much room to play with. So um we've determined that this is the best product. It's been the best product for a long time. [1:19:59, 1:20:02]: Okay. Councillor, any questions okay, Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [1:20:03, 1:20:06]: Ellen to ask, have we used this supplier before? [1:20:06, 1:20:07]: Yes. [1:20:07, 1:20:15]: Yeah. Yes ma'am. Um thank you. I did ask Mr. Aaron for some additional information. [1:20:15, 1:20:21]: Um but if there are no other questions, I will motion to approve this. [1:20:22, 1:20:23]: Is there a second to the motion? [1:20:24, 1:20:29]: Second. Second. Mr. Mr. Alezan's second emotion. Any further discussion, council? [1:20:30, 1:20:33]: If not all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:20:33, 1:20:38]: All right. Okay. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. [1:20:40, 1:20:48]: Uh council consideration approve FY twenty twenty-three LMIG local maintenance and improvement grant list presented by Mr. Aaron, please. [1:20:48, 1:21:08]: Yes, Ms. Mayor and Council. This list was generated from the recently updated Streets and Sidewalk Assessment. And we're coming before Mayor and Council tonight to start a process to get our 2023 LMIG program up and running. The roads are Cheyenne Drive from Summerhill Circle to Banks Road. [1:21:08, 1:21:10]: in the summer heels subdivision. [1:21:10, 1:21:15]: Lorraine Lane from Summerhill Circle to Cul de Sac in the Summerhill. [1:21:15, 1:21:16]: Subdivision. [1:21:16, 1:21:21]: Sawtooth Lane from McKinley Loop to Aspen Brook Drive in the summit. [1:21:21, 1:21:26]: Pine Old Trace from Windsor Drive Dakota Second and Windsong Subdivision. [1:21:27, 1:21:28]: Aslan Grove. [1:21:28, 1:21:32]: From Windsong Drive to Sycamore Walk in the Windsong Subdivision. [1:21:33, 1:21:38]: Piccadilly Circle from Buckingham Place to Cul de Sac in the Wingate Enclave. [1:21:39, 1:21:44]: Borington Lane from Piccadilly Circle to Kent Manor in the Wingate Enclave. [1:21:44, 1:21:50]: Ventura Trail from Brentwood Parkway to the Coda Second and Brentwood subdivision. [1:21:50, 1:21:55]: Baycourt Drive from Cold de Sat to Cold de Sak and Baycourt subdivision. [1:21:55, 1:22:00]: Bay Cove Court from Bay Cove Drive to Cold de Sac in the Bay Court subdivision. [1:22:00, 1:22:05]: Bay Cole Drive from Tie Street Dakota Sac in the Bay Court subdivision. [1:22:05, 1:22:10]: Appleton Boulevard from Flippin' Road to Cold Isaac and Appleton Subdivision. [1:22:10, 1:22:20]: Granda Flora Drive from State Route 42 to Granda Flora Drive and Magnolias, North Bridge Drive from Flippin' Road to Code de Sac and North Bridge Station. [1:22:20, 1:22:25]: Applegate Lane from Nightwind Way to Winterview Way in Monarch Village. [1:22:26, 1:22:38]: Breakwater Trail from Parkwood Drive to Cold de Sac in the Monarch Village, and Martin Luther King Senior Heritage Trail from Rock Quarry Road to South Berry Street. It equals 4.66 miles. [1:22:40, 1:22:42]: All right, fantastic. Uh council, any questions for Mr. Aaron? [1:22:45, 1:22:46]: Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [1:22:47, 1:22:52]: He indicated this is um being paid with grant funds. [1:22:54, 1:23:02]: Portion is grant fund from the G Dot and a remaining portion is from uh city splots for road resurfacing. [1:23:05, 1:23:06]: Okay, thank you. [1:23:07, 1:23:09]: Any other questions for Mr. Aaron? [1:23:11, 1:23:14]: All right, no other questions. I need a motion. [1:23:14, 1:23:15]: Okay, both clear. [1:23:16, 1:23:19]: I motion to approve the list that was just presented to us. [1:23:19, 1:23:21]: Okay, a second. [1:23:21, 1:23:22]: Just can't second that. [1:23:22, 1:23:26]: So no further questions or comments, all in favor, please indicate. [1:23:28, 1:23:30]: Okay, so now she seized. Fantastic. Thank you. [1:23:33, 1:23:53]: Council consideration to approve the purchase Elgin Regan X Street Sweeper under Georgia Statewide contract number 99999-001, SPD 0000-177-009 with Environmental Products Group, an amount of$267,000. [1:23:53, 1:23:55]: [5036.3, 5040.4]: Funding source is the Stormwater Department budgeted funds. Mr. Aaron, please. [1:24:00, 1:24:20]: Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. Currently, the city and the city, all subdivision and residential streets are swept a minimum of four times a year, and the major thoroughfares are swept monthly. Uh, there were some concerns about increasing the amount of times the streets are swept. So, in order to do that, we have to purchase an additional. [1:24:20, 1:24:25]: So we'll come before mayor and council tonight to ask for approval. [1:24:26, 1:24:32]: to purchase a second su street sweeper as approved in the FY twenty twenty-two stormwater budget. [1:24:33, 1:24:35]: Okay, any questions, Council from Mr. Aaron? [1:24:35, 1:24:37]: Therefore. Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. [1:24:37, 1:24:40]: Uh Mr. Aaron, you mentioned um [1:24:41, 1:24:46]: four times a year presently. So with the new street sweeper. [1:24:46, 1:24:49]: Um, what how would that increase to what? [1:24:50, 1:24:52]: Per year, times per year. [1:24:52, 1:24:55]: Yeah, that's it four times a year. [1:24:58, 1:25:00]: I I'm I'm sorry, say that again. Sharon, please. [1:25:01, 1:25:17]: You would assume that you would uh at least double what your current sweeping streets are, but there are some additional things that were requested by certain members of council, like the major thoroughfares and downtown area to be swept more frequently. So [1:25:18, 1:25:22]: When we get back and review the matrix, then we come back with numbers. [1:25:22, 1:25:24]: How permanently streets will be swept. [1:25:26, 1:25:27]: All right, thank thank you, sir. [1:25:28, 1:25:28]: Yeah. [1:25:29, 1:25:35]: Yeah, go ahead, Mr. Alexander. Uh certainly it was more than four times a year. I just want to make sure that number was not correct. [1:25:36, 1:25:40]: Exactly. The the streets are swept on average of quarterly. [1:25:41, 1:26:01]: Once I thought we were doing better than that because we had talked at the last meeting about making sure that we had someone uh who was uh in the street sweeper every um on a daily basis. And hopefully uh you would have staff that will be able to uh assume the street sweeper and be able to use it on a daily basis. [1:26:01, 1:26:15]: basis daily. So do you have the staff necessary to get the street sweeper out there uh every day um on on a daily basis? And I mean you should have some type of projection that you can give us based on [1:26:15, 1:26:17]: the usage [1:26:17, 1:26:18]: Uh of the two. [1:26:18, 1:26:24]: uh street sweep, but it certainly are needed. But man, I um I certainly would I think when we talked previously [1:26:24, 1:26:31]: Uh you told us if we could uh authorize the additional staff, I mean we could probably go up to like on the litter pickups, maybe [1:26:31, 1:26:32]: Uh weekly. [1:26:33, 1:26:33]: And then [1:26:34, 1:26:37]: So what what are we looking at doing in terms of increasing the usage? [1:26:38, 1:26:41]: Uh of the street sweeper. Uh uh of the street sweeper. [1:26:41, 1:26:47]: It this current street sweeper, when it's operational and not in the shop, is used five times a week. [1:26:47, 1:27:04]: And also at night you have people come in on the major thoroughfares and high traffic areas, come in at night to sweep those so that you don't put staff in harm's way. The traffic is not as heavy during those times. But a street sweeper is used daily. There's someone in that street sweeper every day. [1:27:05, 1:27:10]: Okay. And then the s the the the amount of times each subdivision is done, that's that's quarterly. [1:27:11, 1:27:26]: Well that it averages out to once a quarter. That's quarterly. Wow. Okay. So with the new street sweeper then, uh if it's quarterly, then will it be every what every other month at this point or it'll be every month? 45 days? [1:27:26, 1:27:40]: It should be as long as it stays operational. Like I said, there are some downtime for the street sweeper to be serviced and maintained so that it stays operational and functional, but whenever it's not in the shop or being maintained, it's out on the road sweeping. [1:27:41, 1:28:01]: Okay, and lastly the commercial corridors. What is the agreed upon number for the commercial corridors? Surely they can't c uh in terms of like Northern Boulevard, Eagles Landing Puts C Parkway, Hudson Bridge. What what what what are we gonna be able to get to uh with this? Um I have to look at the matrix because our first [1:28:01, 1:28:21]: First priority is compliance with our EPA permit, which us to do certain things. It's not for aesthetics. Street sweeping is for stormwater pollution prevention. That's the number one thing. That's what the permit is issued for. And that's why the city is sweeping streets. That's the number one goal, is to remain compliant with our [1:28:21, 1:28:41]: MS for a permit. The the uh aesthetics is a secondary benefit. But our goal is you add that second street sweeper. We'll revise our matrix and look at like major thoroughfares and those major roads, but we also want to increase the sweeping in our subdivision. That was one of the things that was requested, and that's [1:28:41, 1:28:44]: That's why we are requesting the purchase of second streets we [1:28:44, 1:28:51]: I certainly understand that that there is a regulation requirement, but certainly [1:28:51, 1:28:54]: Beautification is extremely important too. [1:28:54, 1:28:56]: uh us in terms of the city council so [1:28:57, 1:28:59]: What I would like to do is [1:28:59, 1:29:01]: uh to make a motion for approval. [1:29:02, 1:29:03]: But to have you come back to us. [1:29:04, 1:29:05]: Uh with that time schedule. [1:29:06, 1:29:08]: Uh within how l how long would it take you to come back? [1:29:09, 1:29:11]: with the time schedule and what you're able to do. [1:29:11, 1:29:15]: I can't say that until we get that second street sweeper because [1:29:16, 1:29:36]: And the way things are running right now, it could be five to seven months before you can get that on site. Once we get the second street sweeper, then we'll have a better idea because you got two people out sweeping. That way you can kind of develop a game plan. You come back with realistic and accurate numbers versus, you know, you might say this. [1:29:36, 1:29:51]: on paper but when you're out there in the field you encounter things it doesn't go as smoothly as you expect or as efficiently as you expect. I'd like to have some time once we get the second sweeper to kind of see how those two sweepers operate and then we can give you a better [1:29:51, 1:29:56]: projection of how we're gonna improve and what numbers we're gonna be able to generate. [1:29:57, 1:30:10]: From the second. Okay, I hey, I'm gonna keep shooting at it. So once we receive the street sweeper, how long is it gonna take you to determine the maximum amount of of usage that we can get? [1:30:10, 1:30:28]: out of it once we get it whether it's three months, four months, once we get it on the ground, how long is it gonna take for you to understand these numbers and to get them back to us? I'd least like to have one quarter where we're operating two sweepers. So that gives us [1:30:29, 1:30:38]: uh realistic numbers and projections that we feel comfortable presenting to mayor and council saying based on this quarterly analysis we can expect [1:30:39, 1:30:59]: Subdivision roads to be swept this often, major thoroughfares, downtown, and other things, we'll have a better idea and understanding of what we can do with that second sweeper. Okay, so once one uh you would need basically 90 days in order to determine uh what uh with appropriate operations. [1:30:59, 1:31:19]: over that course of time to be able to determine, or quarter as you say it, which basically would be three months to determine what the appropriate usage is based on what you see out there in the field. Because I want a number to be able to hold you to, or the whole staff to. [1:31:19, 1:31:31]: That this is going to be able to happen after we get the equipment here that we want to commit to doing a certain number. After we've seen it on the ground, we've seen it operate, it's physically. [1:31:31, 1:31:37]: Possible. I'm not saying you're gonna reach it every single time, but we gotta have a high goal to aim for. [1:31:39, 1:31:41]: So but I s do see the other council members. [1:31:42, 1:31:47]: had some questions during my question and so I'm gonna allow I'm gonna all allow them to do that. [1:31:47, 1:31:51]: Uh stand stand by please. Uh Mr. Gardner, you had a response, I believe. [1:31:52, 1:31:55]: You you're muted, Mr. Gardner. You're muted, sir. [1:31:56, 1:32:01]: I I just wanna council to understand that that having run four street sweepers in the city of East Point. [1:32:01, 1:32:02]: You know. [1:32:02, 1:32:04]: Two weeks after we got'em, they started breaking down. [1:32:05, 1:32:12]: Um and so to you gotta give Dash this time to to get the equipment engaged and moving. [1:32:13, 1:32:13]: Um [1:32:14, 1:32:18]: you know, to see how she runs, maybe having any maintenance issues. Cause as he said. [1:32:19, 1:32:19]: Yeah. [1:32:20, 1:32:22]: Yes, you can swing five times a day, but [1:32:23, 1:32:27]: Those are mechanical devices with multiple moving parts that don't always work. [1:32:28, 1:32:44]: simultaneously and they do break down. And sometimes it could be two weeks, three weeks, four weeks sometimes, depending on what the issues are, to get parts in and get it fixed. So I just want everybody to understand that so we don't set the unrealistic expectations, but as soon as he can get them in rotation. [1:32:44, 1:32:49]: Uh first we'll let you know when they get here. That's number one. We'll let you know when they get you. [1:32:49, 1:33:08]: Two, um, give them enough time so we can gauge how this thing runs, um, whether we're having any issues with it when we first get it, um, and then get a pattern going and then say, hey, this is what we're doing. This is what our our bar we're setting for both of these devices to move around the city. Also remember. [1:33:08, 1:33:09]: The [1:33:09, 1:33:13]: You you you you have a another issue of growth. [1:33:14, 1:33:18]: in the city that you gotta think of once you do that. And then you now you only got two. [1:33:18, 1:33:28]: covering X amount of square miles. Um so I I want us to be also mindful of that because come January next year, things this all changes. [1:33:28, 1:33:28]: Depending on. [1:33:30, 1:33:32]: Well certainly, certainly. I I do understand that. [1:33:33, 1:33:34]: Mayor Pro Tem Thomas, go ahead, please. [1:33:35, 1:33:42]: Yeah, um, Mr. Aaron, I'm not sure if you mentioned how would they run, would both of them run [1:33:42, 1:33:43]: Uh [1:33:44, 1:33:47]: Daily together which you alternate. [1:33:47, 1:33:48]: Yeah. [1:33:48, 1:33:52]: So would that be just one running per day and you have the other one [1:33:52, 1:33:59]: as as alternate or in case it's one breakdown, you you do have the other. That was one question. And I let me just make a statement. [1:34:00, 1:34:04]: Uh in my research and doing Don't Trash Stockbridge. [1:34:04, 1:34:06]: I I did see the research. [1:34:06, 1:34:10]: Where when you have this litter on the street [1:34:10, 1:34:12]: And it washes down into [1:34:13, 1:34:18]: um the you know, the the sewers and what have it and it goes into your waterway. [1:34:18, 1:34:21]: It is very, very detrimental. So I do understand [1:34:22, 1:34:26]: The need for the street sweeper to be able to take that lid and that trash. [1:34:26, 1:34:35]: off of the street before it it it washes down in. So I I do understand that part and then and I'm glad that you really really mentioned that part because [1:34:35, 1:34:37]: Uh those are the ills affect [1:34:37, 1:34:41]: of litter on the street. And I just want to reemphasize that, but [1:34:41, 1:34:44]: Um I just wasn't clear. [1:34:44, 1:34:52]: If if both street people would be running at the same time or would that just be one per day? I wasn't too clear on that. [1:34:53, 1:35:04]: Uh Mayor Pro Tem Thomas, both of them gonna be running at the same time. One might be in a uh they'll be in different quadrants of the city, but they're they're gonna both be running at the same time as long as they're operational. [1:35:04, 1:35:07]: They both will be running five days a week. [1:35:07, 1:35:09]: All right. Thank you. May I yield back. [1:35:09, 1:35:11]: Okay, Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. [1:35:12, 1:35:19]: Yeah, thank you, Mayor. I believe that um, you know, we obviously we're saying that this equipment is needed because we're saying that we want more. [1:35:20, 1:35:36]: beautification and we want things done in the city. So the uh you know the question if do we want the machine, I think that uh I think it's this council wants the machine and and the formalities of how we're gonna use it. And I think the oversight that we have here at City Hall, I think that it's gonna be [1:35:36, 1:35:40]: used to the max. So I like go ahead and motion that we approve the uh purchase of the uh [1:35:41, 1:35:42]: Street sweeper. [1:35:42, 1:35:48]: Motion for May is there a second. Mr. Alzheimer's second that okay. Uh Miss Barber, go ahead, please. You had a comment. [1:35:50, 1:35:57]: Have a question for Mr. Aaron. This two hundred and sixty seven thousand dollars, does that include warranty? [1:35:58, 1:35:58]: Yes, ma'am. [1:35:59, 1:36:05]: Okay, you didn't provide a breakdown of what the true cost of the sweet creeper is. [1:36:06, 1:36:08]: And the additional warranty. [1:36:08, 1:36:14]: So can you explain to me what the warranty covers? I see based on this pamphlet. [1:36:15, 1:36:18]: Um it just says one year parts and labor. [1:36:19, 1:36:28]: That's the standard warranty on most vehicles, but we can also, if we choose, we can get an extended warranty as well. [1:36:29, 1:36:33]: Okay, so which one is it? Which one is it's the w it's the one year warranty. [1:36:34, 1:36:36]: Manufacturers warranty. [1:36:36, 1:36:41]: As specified in here, but we have the option to purchase an extended warranty, it'll be so too. [1:36:44, 1:36:48]: So three hundred and sixty seven thousand dollars includes just the base. [1:36:51, 1:36:53]: Warranty with the parts and light warrant. [1:36:54, 1:36:57]: I didn't hear the last part, you kind of [1:36:57, 1:36:59]: You cut out, I didn't hear. [1:37:00, 1:37:05]: The two hundred and sixty-seven thousand that this includes just a basic warranty. [1:37:05, 1:37:13]: Yes, ma'am. It's like on our previous street sweeper, we eventually we signed up for an extended warranty. [1:37:14, 1:37:18]: We had a one year warranty on the the previous one we bought a few years ago. [1:37:19, 1:37:22]: So but one of the things we did because [1:37:22, 1:37:24]: that that company [1:37:24, 1:37:34]: works on street sweeper specifically. We wanted to make sure that we had experts working on the street sweeper whenever we had issues. So we did purchase an extended warranty on it. [1:37:36, 1:37:36]: Thank you. [1:37:38, 1:37:43]: If there's no other questions, the motion is made and seconded. So all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:37:45, 1:37:48]: All right, and uh Miss Ganttz. [1:37:50, 1:38:10]: All right. Okay. I believe Miss Cant had disappeared, I believe. So four four approvals and uh I don't see her on on here online. Okay, on that note, that is the last item. Next thing is uh my comments and uh [1:38:10, 1:38:13]: Uh what I want a couple of things I want to say. One is that uh [1:38:13, 1:38:33]: Uh folks, believe it or not, we are at the two-year mark for this pandemic. Two years. Two years we've been in this virtual environment, two years been wearing masks and shots and vaccinations. So hopefully soon we'll be able to break out of this. But anyway, uh on that note, the Henry uh the Henry County Public Health Department, located at 135 Henry Park. [1:38:33, 1:38:53]: 470-664-0005. You can go there and schedule an appointment to get the Pfizer or Moderna vaccination. You can also get tested there as well. And then of course you can also call uh require [1:38:53, 1:39:02]: or or receive a four uh package, package of four for the uh free home uh test, COVID test, okay. [1:39:02, 1:39:22]: A set of four. And what I am mounts to is my understanding now. You can actually get up to two packets of four each, and you can call this number eight hundred-two three two zero two three three. Once again, eight hundred-two three two zero two three three and order a pack of four of the [1:39:22, 1:39:36]: the COVID test uh kits for your household. All right. And um it was mentioned earlier in the conversation, the meeting, that uh this past Friday, we had a first groundbreaking for Bridges Jodico with the Sterling group. [1:39:37, 1:39:57]: uh$50 million project or gentle at the bridges and we're talking about one and two and three bedroom apartments high-end apartments luxury apartments there with uh several thousand feet of uh retail space on the first floor and uh retail shops coffee shops hair salons uh insurance agencies things of that nature this [1:39:57, 1:40:17]: This is just the beginning, folks, of uh what's going to go on in Bridge of Jodico for the next three years or so before we finally built it out. And so otherwise, look forward to walkable paths, walkable community, 10-foot paths, a high-end restaurant, hotel, shops, you know, thing, all types of things, homes, single-family homes with attached. [1:40:16, 1:40:31]: and detached garages is coming. This is just the first thing. So it's going to be a lot of um groundbreakers in the next couple few years here. And we got finally got this started. So it's a great thing in this aspect as well. Look forward to uh future development. [1:40:31, 1:40:36]: on the south side and in stop region in Henry County is coming. It is here actually. Now coming is already here. [1:40:37, 1:40:44]: On that note, the downtown development authority meeting meets uh 6 p.m. by way of Zoom Tuesday of each month. [1:40:45, 1:41:05]: The planning commission meeting is the fourth Thursday, 6:30 by way of Zoom. Next meeting is on the 24th of March. City City Council work uh session meeting is the last Tuesday of each month. By way of Zoom, it's on the 29th of March. Main Street Advisory Board meeting is the second Friday of each month, 9 a.m. by way of Zoom, and that [1:41:05, 1:41:25]: Next meeting is April 8th. Our next city council meeting is the second Monday of each month. By way of Zoom, it's April 11th. The new council meeting is actually going to be 5:30 on the second Wednesday of each month in the Levi meeting room and right here in City Hall. And that meeting is actually April 13th. [1:41:25, 1:41:45]: The U Council Advisory Committee meeting is 6 30, third Tuesday of each month. And the Patrick Henry meeting room, the City Hall, April 19th is that date. The U Council is hosting a second annual March Madness event Saturday, March 19th from 10 a.m. to 4 p.m. And that's JP Moseley Event Center. [1:41:45, 1:41:59]: JP Moseley Recreational Center, 5883 Highway 155 North to Stockbridge, 30281. And then if you want to contact the staff liaison for the U Council, that's Randy Rainey. [1:41:59, 1:42:03]: It's seven seven zero three eight nine seven hundred. [1:42:03, 1:42:06]: Extension two sixty-four for more information. [1:42:07, 1:42:11]: And I has here joined uh Councilman Alexander for beautification day. You have a date for that, sir? [1:42:13, 1:42:18]: Yeah, it's actually gonna be this Saturday as well uh at nine o'clock. We'll get the information out. [1:42:19, 1:42:21]: Uh this Saturday at nine on Highway one thirty eight. [1:42:21, 1:42:41]: Okay, fantastic. And meet the mayor and voice your questions and concerns. And that'll be Monday, March 28th, at 10 a.m. to uh to twelve noon. And you can call Zenovia Pearson to schedule appointment. And that is 770-389-7900 extension two forty-eight uh to do that. Okay. [1:42:41, 1:42:50]: And on that note, uh yes, Mr. Alexander? Yes, I would like to also I wanna take this opportunity. This is Women's History Month. You gave out the proclamation. [1:42:51, 1:42:52]: Earlier [1:42:52, 1:43:06]: I certainly want to thank the women on the Women's History Month Committee uh for doing a phenomenal job. Mayor, thank you for attending Councilman uh Mayor Pro Tem. It was an event that was really on an on on just such another excellent level. [1:43:06, 1:43:10]: The honorees, the staff, Miss Holliday did her thing. [1:43:10, 1:43:12]: Uh on a committee. [1:43:13, 1:43:26]: and all of the ladies and everyone who attended, uh, it was just overjoyed with what we were able to produce. I certainly would like to uh we we're putting together a video that should air Thursday night. [1:43:26, 1:43:30]: Uh at seven o'clock on the city Facebook page for anybody that actually missed it. [1:43:31, 1:43:32]: Uh, you can see it. [1:43:32, 1:43:37]: You know, we did live streaming during the event, but you know, the live streaming sometimes can be a little [1:43:37, 1:43:48]: Iffy or so you'll be able to get to see a full production uh being put together and being re-aired uh on the city Facebook page uh Thursday night at seven o'clock. [1:43:48, 1:43:51]: Acknowledging all of these fantastic women who [1:43:51, 1:43:55]: were recognized and all the honorees and the committee members. [1:43:56, 1:43:57]: Uh as well. [1:43:57, 1:44:00]: Certainly if uh you're agreeable, May, we'd like to get [1:44:00, 1:44:03]: А копія проклямай форми. [1:44:03, 1:44:04]: Who [1:44:04, 1:44:06]: Uh served on the committee. [1:44:06, 1:44:10]: because uh it it'd be emblematic of the work that they put in as volunteers. [1:44:10, 1:44:12]: So thank you all to everyone. [1:44:12, 1:44:14]: The made out event. [1:44:14, 1:44:16]: But a memory remember that [1:44:16, 1:44:18]: Not anyone that attended. [1:44:18, 1:44:20]: We'll never forget. It was amazing. [1:44:20, 1:44:21]: Absolutely fantastic. [1:44:22, 1:44:31]: Fantastic. Okay. On that note, uh and we'll get those proclamations. Uh the the clerk took took note of that. She's gotta produce all those those proclamations there, but fantastic, we'll do that. [1:44:32, 1:44:33]: Uh Mr. Blount. [1:44:34, 1:44:39]: Yeah, just real real briefly, Mayor. Uh as you know, I'm I'm up here in DC and uh I just want to say that uh [1:44:40, 1:44:51]: Um Mayor Vincent uh Williams, they they had a we had a meeting all today and uh Pete Buddiget talked about funding that would be coming to cities pertaining to uh infrastructure. [1:44:51, 1:45:11]: uh and across the country. Uh we talked to uh Susan Rice and she uh talked about different fundings that uh rescue funding that we can do even in the midst of stuff that's going on now. Even uh President Biden spoke to us today and talked about uh some bills that he's hoping to pass to uh increase funding with uh and they're gonna open try to open up some uh [1:45:11, 1:45:30]: uh uh new funding that would also help those families that are still doing some suffering during the pandemic and doing uh that that offer didn't cover and expanding and opening up areas where those little loophole loopholes where people weren't able to get funding, they could get those fundings and and double down even uh in areas of uh [1:45:30, 1:45:36]: Just making that uh communities uh more vibrant. So uh some things I would share with you all when I get back. [1:45:37, 1:45:51]: Okay, so otherwise you're in DC with the National League of Cities, I'm assuming. Is that correct? Yeah. Yes. Fantastic. Fantastic. Okay, fantastic. On that note, Council, I need a motion to go in as yes. Can I ask Councilman Black, can you talk to them about the gas prices? [1:45:55, 1:45:57]: You see what they can do about these gas prices. [1:45:57, 1:46:01]: He he mentioned that I have to share that with you all. [1:46:02, 1:46:03]: Yeah, okay. [1:46:04, 1:46:14]: All right. All right, council. And we need a motion to go into executive session for legal and uh personnel and real estate issues. Okay. Mayor. So okay, is there a second? [1:46:14, 1:46:17]: Second. No missing plus second. All in favor, please indicate. [1:46:18, 1:46:31]: Okay. Thank you very much. Okay, I'll see you in about 10 minutes. So Miss Holiday, could you send everybody and the attorneys online a link to our executive session, please? Do about 10 minutes. Okay. See y'all shortly. Thank you. [1:46:32, 1:46:36]: Bond, you're thank you. Thank you, Ms. Bond. Appreciate it. Back to uh [1:46:38, 1:46:40]: Back to the website as well. Back to a f uh [1:46:43, 1:46:44]: To record everything. [1:46:45, 1:46:46]: And on a webinar. [1:46:51, 1:46:53]: Okay, Mr. Garner. [1:47:01, 1:47:03]: Okay, Facebook Live. There you go, sir. Thank you very much. [1:47:04, 1:47:05]: Therefore, Mr. [1:47:06, 1:47:13]: I I moved you in executive session. Uh one second, sir. We I we gotta have a quorum first, sir. See if we get a quorum first. Stand by. [1:47:21, 1:47:26]: I just need one more person to join us and one more council member. We'll have a call and we can do that. Go forward. [1:47:37, 1:47:43]: Okay, I think there we go. We knew we now what's happened to her? She disappeared. [1:47:50, 1:47:51]: Berry. [1:47:52, 1:47:54]: All right. [1:48:04, 1:48:06]: Okay, now. Okay. [1:48:07, 1:48:12]: Okay, fantastic. Here we go. All right. All right, Council. I need a motion to end the executive session, please. [1:48:12, 1:48:13]: Тому [1:48:13, 1:48:14]: There a second. [1:48:15, 1:48:19]: I second Miss Bar Miss Barber had her hand up. She seconded that all in favor, please indicate. [1:48:20, 1:48:21]: All right. [1:48:21, 1:48:25]: I need a motion to reconvene our council meeting, please. [1:48:26, 1:48:32]: Don't move. Okay, Miss uh Ms. Barby, you have the hand up again for a second. Okay. All in favor, please indicate. [1:48:32, 1:48:33]: All right. [1:48:33, 1:48:44]: Okay, great. That's four four votes each time. And there's nothing for us to report at the executive session at this time. So I have a motion. I need a motion to adjourn our meeting, please. [1:48:44, 1:48:47]: Uh never uh got Mr. Alexander, second. [1:48:48, 1:48:49]: Circuit. [1:48:49, 1:48:52]: Okay, Mayor Putem, second that all in favor, please indicate. [1:48:52, 1:48:53]: Uh [1:48:53, 1:48:57]: Okay. Okay. I'll got four votes, positive votes. Good night, everybody. Have a good evening.

--- title: Council Retreat Day 1 date: 2022-03-08 source: 2022-03-08_Council_Retreat_Day_1.wav --- [0:00:04, 0:00:07]: Yeah. [0:00:15, 0:00:21]: Well Senator Jones is gonna kinda go give a overview. So if you guys wanna make sure you record what you okay. [0:00:21, 0:00:41]: Good afternoon, Mayor and City Council. I am State Senator Emmanuel Jones, and uh thank you for this opportunity to come and meet with you today to discuss an issue that I think is very important to all of the residents of not just the residents of Stockbridge, but also the residents of Henry County, the neighboring communities. [0:00:41, 0:00:42]: Yeah. [0:00:43, 0:00:46]: I want to go back a few years ago. [0:00:46, 0:00:47]: We're [0:00:48, 0:00:51]: Residents of his area declined to. [0:00:51, 0:00:58]: split up Stockbridge into two cities when there was an effort to create a new city of Eagles Landing. [0:00:59, 0:01:01]: During that time and after the feat of that initiative. [0:01:02, 0:01:06]: I worked with some of my colleagues in the legislature to come up with what we thought would be an [0:01:07, 0:01:08]: Better idea. [0:01:08, 0:01:10]: But a city of stock bridge. [0:01:10, 0:01:13]: Since that time, I've had an opportunity to present. [0:01:13, 0:01:14]: His proposal [0:01:15, 0:01:17]: Two the mayor and city council. [0:01:18, 0:01:22]: And I believe that mayor and city council is excited about this opportunity. [0:01:22, 0:01:32]: And what I would like to share with you is Senate Bill 612. Senate Bill 612 was first read in the legislature this morning. [0:01:34, 0:01:50]: So it's already gone through that first step. In addition to that, there's a really good chance that this bill would pass the legislature within the next couple of days. There's two sponsors. I am the primary sponsor for Senate Bill 612. [0:01:50, 0:01:59]: And the co-sponsor is the senator from the 17th District, who also represents a small part of Socridge, and that's Senator Brian Strickland. [0:02:01, 0:02:09]: Based on the communications and conversations I've had with mayor, city council, and members of the community, particularly going back three and four years. [0:02:10, 0:02:14]: There was some conversation about how do we clean up the boundaries of [0:02:14, 0:02:17]: Stock bridge what I want to show you. [0:02:17, 0:02:23]: As highlighted in this kind of pinkish red area is the existing boundaries. [0:02:24, 0:02:33]: for Stockbridge. And what you can see, I kind of describe the existing boundaries of Stockbridge as being more spaghetti-like than more like a city. [0:02:34, 0:02:40]: The areas that you see surrounding Stockbridge and the lighter blue area. [0:02:40, 0:02:46]: Is the proposed annexation area that would create a much larger city. [0:02:46, 0:02:50]: For stock bridge. Currently the population based on the twenty twenty census data. [0:02:51, 0:02:53]: The stock bridge is about twenty eight thousand. [0:02:54, 0:03:03]: This proposal, which would require referendum in November of this year, 2022, would increase the population of [0:03:03, 0:03:06]: stock rates to roughly fifty one thousand. [0:03:06, 0:03:15]: In addition to the increase in population, it also includes creating district voting for the city council members. [0:03:15, 0:03:35]: So I wanted to be here today, Mayor and City Council, to show you Senate Bill 612. And that bill is quickly moving through the state Senate. And once it goes through the Senate, it then goes over to the House of Representative. I've had an opportunity to speak with the chair of the delegation. [0:03:35, 0:03:55]: Representative Demetrius Douglas about Senate Bill 612. And again, this is a bipartisan legislation, but I can share with you that Representative Demetrius Douglas, as well as the other members of the delegation, is excited about this opportunity to do something positive on the South. [0:03:55, 0:04:04]: Outside of Atlanta, something positive for the city of Stockbridge by cleaning up its boundaries, as outlined as follows. [0:04:07, 0:04:08]: And I would hope [0:04:08, 0:04:14]: that we would have an opportunity to answer any questions that anyone would have. I know [0:04:14, 0:04:21]: We're there's members out there watching it live and if they can capture any of those comments, I'd be more than glad to answer them at this time as well. [0:04:22, 0:04:23]: But this is the [0:04:24, 0:04:24]: News. [0:04:25, 0:04:26]: Yeah. [0:04:27, 0:04:40]: That again, cause for a referendum, those residents that live in these unincorporated areas of Stockbridge would have to vote in a referendum in November on a November ballot. [0:04:41, 0:04:43]: To incorporate themselves into [0:04:45, 0:04:49]: This new city or the new boundaries of the new city. [0:04:50, 0:04:56]: And uh with that that kind of concludes my remarks. And if there's any questions that I can [0:04:57, 0:04:59]: Answer, I would be more than glad to do so at this time. [0:05:01, 0:05:02]: Okay, so [0:05:02, 0:05:06]: I didn't like to make a statement. I like to thank you so much for [0:05:06, 0:05:09]: Uh this forward thinking idea. [0:05:09, 0:05:12]: Of unifying the city in one. [0:05:13, 0:05:33]: As you took the forefront and made the battle to keep the city together, and now you're taking it to the next level and putting everything together because so all people say, I'm in the city, I'm not in the city. The people that right in the middle of the city that are surrounded by the city that don't get to vote for mayor. [0:05:33, 0:05:38]: Council. They have no representation, even though they're engulfed by the city. [0:05:38, 0:05:46]: And in these actions where we've been very proactive to start the police department with concerns over public safety. [0:05:46, 0:05:47]: And also [0:05:48, 0:05:48]: Oh. [0:05:48, 0:06:00]: We have been very proactive in measures such as limiting rental subdivisions and those types of efforts. This offers these residents the opportunity to have stepped up. [0:06:00, 0:06:06]: public safety and uh they can have representation uh with a vote. [0:06:06, 0:06:25]: uh for the mayor and city council like they never had before. So I certainly want to appreciate you for uh coming forward with this bold idea because at this time of the 21st century, it really takes bold ideas like this to be able to uh you know take things to the next level. So I just want to thank you. [0:06:25, 0:06:28]: Uh for for bringing this to us and allowing us to finally [0:06:29, 0:06:31]: Dalmanize the area into one. [0:06:32, 0:06:43]: Well thank you, Councilman. One of the things that encouraged me and other members of the General Assembly, including my colleague in the Senate as well as members of the House, was the progress that Stockbridge has made. [0:06:43, 0:06:46]: You've built you all built out a beautiful entertainment venue. [0:06:47, 0:06:49]: I've had an opportunity to visit this entertainment venue. [0:06:50, 0:06:53]: And the concert was uh very, very nice by the way. [0:06:53, 0:06:56]: And I see that your city has moved forward with [0:06:58, 0:07:11]: standing up their own police department, which is I think is a positive for the members in this community because law enforcement is now much closer to members of the community. And all those are positives and I believe that and very hopeful. [0:07:11, 0:07:15]: That those residents that live in this area will embrace the good work. [0:07:15, 0:07:19]: That your mayor and city council is doing so that you can continue to grow this city. [0:07:19, 0:07:20]: Certainly [0:07:20, 0:07:24]: The way Stockbridge is positioned, like centrally within. [0:07:24, 0:07:28]: Henry County, particularly with the interstate exchanges that you see here. [0:07:29, 0:07:33]: I believe that Stockbridge is better positioned than any other city in Henry County. [0:07:33, 0:07:36]: to capitalize on this booming economy. [0:07:37, 0:07:57]: I'm gonna also think without doubt uh stuff for bringing this forward and also what this does too is it allows the citizens not only to vote but also look at having equal representation and particular district uh representation that they that I think they also need to be great. So great activities. Look forward to a great uh pass passing of this referendum to go back. [0:07:58, 0:08:05]: That's correct. And uh thank you, Mayor Ford. And certainly um this referendum would not pass without the support. [0:08:05, 0:08:11]: the city council and of course the mayor. I don't want to leave here today without asking for your support for Centerville Six Fair. [0:08:12, 0:08:16]: We haven't seen what I'll do. Thank you, Mayor. Members of City Council. [0:08:17, 0:08:21]: Uh gentlemen, without a doubt, um we talk about [0:08:22, 0:08:25]: The residential portion of the inclusion. [0:08:26, 0:08:27]: Uh in the history. [0:08:27, 0:08:29]: Have we been able to? [0:08:29, 0:08:38]: as of yet to delineate the um potential commercial other businesses, the business owners that would now be coming into the city of Taco. [0:08:39, 0:08:51]: Oh absolutely. What you can see in this entire area is that those businesses that are within this area are included in this annexation. [0:08:52, 0:08:52]: Yeah. [0:08:53, 0:09:04]: The way the law states is that any area that has more than 500 residents, the only way to incorporate that area into the city would be with a referendum. And because this map [0:09:05, 0:09:21]: almost doubles the size of Stockbridge. There was no other way around it than to include it all in one referendum that would be in November. The referendum referendum in November does not spit out presidential from commercial. It speaks to all of it. [0:09:23, 0:09:23]: Sure. [0:09:24, 0:09:24]: Okay. [0:09:27, 0:09:28]: Senator Jones. [0:09:29, 0:09:30]: Um, I wanna thank you. [0:09:31, 0:09:33]: Or making less whole. [0:09:33, 0:09:46]: uh it's actually needed um it's something that our community needs we're in and out again i have neighborhoods across the street that aren't in the city and then we go to a stop sign and we're back in [0:09:47, 0:09:57]: Um, I think this will be great for our constituents. It'll be great for our city, it'll be great for Hemley County. And I wanna thank you so much for your leadership and taking the lead on this. This is something. [0:09:58, 0:10:09]: that um our constituents need to know that we 100% support and we're doing recurve them and we want to do this for the betterment of the county itself. Thank you. [0:10:09, 0:10:14]: Thank you, Councilwoman again. And I would certainly encourage um both the mayor and the city council. [0:10:15, 0:10:35]: Uh once this bill is finally passed, which should happen within the next week or two. And because of the bipartisan support in both the House and the Senate, I'm very confident that the governor is going to sign this legislation. But it's really going to be up to you all as leaders of this community to explain and to market and essentially [0:10:35, 0:10:45]: to sell the residents of these unincorporated areas into the benefits of being in your city. Just being here today, I've seen many benefits. [0:10:45, 0:10:47]: Um of being part of [0:10:47, 0:10:59]: uh this great movement called Stockbridge. And I'm sure there's a lot of other reasons out there other than those that's been mentioned here today where the residents in this community would want to be part of your city. [0:11:01, 0:11:10]: Sister, can you sort of give us a timeline as to when the deal will actually take movement? [0:11:11, 0:11:12]: Yeah. [0:11:12, 0:11:23]: Well, the bill is all is already moving. It's already been first read. I've already signed off on the copy, which essentially means it's gone through slogo committee, city and local government committee. [0:11:23, 0:11:28]: So it's clear committee, that bill will be put back on the calendar for a full vote by the Senate. [0:11:29, 0:11:33]: Uh, which should happen within the next two to three days. [0:11:33, 0:11:40]: Once that happens, I'm gonna move for immediate transmissal over to the house. That be able to go over to the house. [0:11:40, 0:11:44]: And it would go through the same process as it gone through on the Senate. [0:11:44, 0:11:47]: Uh it just requires the majority members of [0:11:47, 0:11:53]: your delegation for Stockbridge in the House to sign off on the legislation. I believe that's five votes over there. [0:11:53, 0:12:04]: I've confirmed already that more than five members in the House supports this legislation. I do not anticipate any problem. Certainly I expect this bill in the next two weeks to be on the governor's desk. [0:12:05, 0:12:08]: [728.4, 748.4]: In terms of this, this gives the city uh ball land, which is we've been kind of land like in terms of the city limits available. You know, we got the burgeoning film and TV industry, which is something I'd like to see us uh take advantage of. Do you have any thoughts about how we might feel to [0:12:28, 0:12:37]: uh explore that without development authority of tracking those types of new jobs which uh really determine traction and uh quality of life. [0:12:37, 0:12:43]: Well, I think that industry has been booming all over the city. I remember when Governor Dio put out the [0:12:43, 0:12:53]: tax breaks that attracted a lot of that industry to state of Georgia some twelve years ago. They built uh huge facilities. As we know, a lot of movies are being made and [0:12:53, 0:13:00]: I understand that a part of Black Panther was even made in Stockbridge. So that industry is gonna continue to grow. [0:13:00, 0:13:05]: And I believe that with the way your boundaries are now delineated. [0:13:06, 0:13:12]: Uh rather than being more spaghetti-like in tentacles, you now have a city that's more concentric. [0:13:13, 0:13:17]: And I think that's gonna bode well for those who want to invest in your city. [0:13:17, 0:13:22]: And those who wanna, you know, worship and play and even be entertained at your [0:13:23, 0:13:25]: Um new venue in the city. [0:13:25, 0:13:44]: So I think this is a positive. And I think it would also help considering the size of the city, that when you have a conversation with prospective businesses, that they would now see that the city has enough density, if you will, where they would want to be a part of. [0:13:46, 0:13:50]: your city and perhaps relocate some of their [0:13:51, 0:13:51]: Offices here. [0:13:53, 0:14:13]: Senator, there's a question that is coming in asking if the map includes Valley Hill Road. Can you know? Yes, it does. Yes, it does. I'm not an expert on the city. I'm glad I have a lot of here that represent those areas. And what the mayor is telling me is that. [0:14:13, 0:14:15]: Yes it does. Okay, thank you. [0:14:16, 0:14:26]: And certainly may I I would uh I would plan to leave this with you and we can get to smaller copies as well. And uh I would so uh I encourage you to share with members in the community. [0:14:26, 0:14:33]: I'm available for any town hall meeting to come and speak to anything that I presented here. [0:14:33, 0:14:40]: I absolutely so appreciate that. Uh big copy and we'll get small copies and actually put it on a website and get uh get passed out absolutely. [0:14:41, 0:14:45]: And I can't leave here without thanking the city of Stockbridge for their support because [0:14:45, 0:14:50]: This legislation wouldn't have moved as fast as it did without the council's support on this initiative. [0:14:50, 0:14:51]: So thank all of you. [0:14:51, 0:14:52]: Thank you so appreciate it. [0:14:55, 0:14:57]: [900.3, 901.0]: Is that

--- title: URA Meeting date: 2022-02-28 source: 2022-02-28_URA_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:08, 0:00:09]: Thank you, Mr. Bond. [0:00:28, 0:00:30]: Ladies and gentlemen, we are now recording. [0:00:46, 0:00:47]: And we are now [0:00:49, 0:00:52]: Webinar is now being live streamed on Facebook as well. [0:01:11, 0:01:16]: Ms. Holliday, am I to assume that our attorneys have the link for tonight's meeting? [0:01:16, 0:01:18]: They were sent the link. [0:01:19, 0:01:20]: Okay, thank you. [0:02:35, 0:02:36]: Thank you. [0:02:53, 0:02:54]: Okay. [0:03:03, 0:03:04]: Yeah. [0:03:06, 0:03:06]: Hello. [0:03:10, 0:03:11]: How you doing, Ms. Gantt? [0:03:12, 0:03:15]: Great. Thank you, Harry. Welcome. [0:03:25, 0:03:27]: [270.8, 276.7]: Okay, ladies and gentlemen, I have uh six oh two, I believe it is now at this point. And uh [0:04:39, 0:04:45]: I'd like to call this meeting to order. This is the meeting of the Urban Redevelopment Agency. [0:04:45, 0:04:50]: And uh on that note, I will give the invocation. [0:04:50, 0:05:10]: So if you don't mind, please uh bow your heads. Lord, thank you to bring us together once again for an outstanding meeting, allowing the Urban Bredevelopment Agency to have the good discussion, discuss the way forward for our city, continue to make the progress that we need and that the citizens will be proud for us to make these particular decisions. Be us always, Lord, in your name. Amen. [0:05:10, 0:05:13]: Please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. [0:05:17, 0:05:27]: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. [0:05:28, 0:05:30]: Okay. [0:05:30, 0:05:33]: Madam Clerk, uh roll call, please. [0:05:38, 0:05:39]: Chair Ford. [0:05:39, 0:05:40]: Present. [0:05:40, 0:05:41]: Vice Chair Thomas. [0:05:42, 0:05:42]: Present. [0:05:42, 0:05:44]: Board member Alexander. [0:05:46, 0:05:50]: Let the record reflect board member Alexander is not present. [0:05:51, 0:05:52]: Board member Barber. [0:05:52, 0:05:53]: I see. [0:05:53, 0:05:54]: Board member Blount. [0:05:57, 0:06:00]: Please let the record reflect, Board Member Blount is not present. [0:06:00, 0:06:01]: Board member Gantt. [0:06:03, 0:06:04]: Present. [0:06:04, 0:06:05]: Present. [0:06:05, 0:06:06]: Chair Ford, you have a quorum. [0:06:07, 0:06:08]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. I appreciate that. [0:06:09, 0:06:09]: Um [0:06:11, 0:06:14]: Board, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:06:16, 0:06:16]: So moved. [0:06:17, 0:06:19]: Okay, thank you, Miss Barber. Is there a second? [0:06:19, 0:06:22]: Ms. Uh Gantt Second Zen, all in favor, please indicate. [0:06:22, 0:06:23]: Uh [0:06:23, 0:06:28]: Thank thank you. Appreciate it. It's a synam reference two three there. [0:06:29, 0:06:34]: All right, so I need a motion to adopt the minutes of March 22nd, 2021. [0:06:34, 0:06:38]: Hopefully you had a chance to take a look at those. Should a motion accept those particular minutes? [0:06:39, 0:06:43]: So moved. Okay, I've got Ms. Bar once again, Ms. Barber. So moved. [0:06:43, 0:06:45]: Uh Ms. Gantt, you'll second those? [0:06:46, 0:06:47]: Thank you. Thank you very much. [0:06:48, 0:06:49]: Uh all in favor, please indicate. [0:06:50, 0:07:01]: Aye. Okay, thank you very much. They passed. Uh we have executive session uh to go forward and to discuss and and and or vote on uh negotiations in reference to uh [0:07:01, 0:07:05]: property issues. So I need a motion to go in executive session, please. [0:07:06, 0:07:07]: So moved. [0:07:07, 0:07:08]: Is there a second? [0:07:10, 0:07:12]: Is Barber second that all in favor, please indicate? [0:07:13, 0:07:27]: Okay. All right. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Okay, so we'll give us about five minutes or so. We'll go into segment session and then uh Mr. Gardner, you'll you'll take charge of the time, sir. Appreciate it. See you in a bit. Miss Ms. Hawley, please give us the link. [0:07:27, 0:07:28]: Yes. [0:07:28, 0:07:29]: Thank you. [0:07:51, 0:07:53]: Okay, welcome back everybody. [0:07:54, 0:07:54]: [476.1, 481.2]: Alrighty. And we are recording and back on Facebook Live. [0:08:05, 0:08:07]: Thank you, Mr. Bond. Ms. Holliday, appreciate it. [0:08:17, 0:08:19]: Give it a few more minutes here. [0:08:58, 0:09:00]: All right, Ms. Alexander, welcome back. [0:09:10, 0:09:13]: I can give another minus C here. I'm gonna have a six fifty-two. [0:09:27, 0:09:27]: Yeah. [0:09:42, 0:09:45]: Okay, I'll tell you what, ladies and gentlemen, we actually have a quorum. [0:09:46, 0:09:53]: We have a quorum now right now. So otherwise, okay, council or board in this case. Uh someone else is coming in. Who's this now? [0:09:56, 0:10:01]: Okay, Miss Thornton. Okay. Anyway, council, I like a motion to end our executive session, please. [0:10:01, 0:10:02]: Some more [0:10:02, 0:10:07]: Okay, is there a second m Mr. Alexander, Mr. Blount, you got the second there? All in favor, please indicate. [0:10:09, 0:10:14]: All right, thank you. Now I need a motion to reconvene our URA regular meeting, please. [0:10:15, 0:10:18]: Solmo. Okay. Mr. Alexander, is there a second? [0:10:18, 0:10:21]: Mr. Blount, second is that. All in favor, please indicate. [0:10:22, 0:10:23]: Thank you very much. [0:10:23, 0:10:33]: And now there's nothing for us to report from this executive session at this time. So I nominate a motion to end our uh URA uh agency meeting for this evening. [0:10:34, 0:10:40]: Motion to observe. Okay. [0:10:41, 0:10:59]: Uh yes, well I thought we have nothing really to report this time, correct? The affidavit that there was this closed session discussion. Okay, closed session discussion. Thank you. No problem. Okay, so I'm sorry, Mr. Alexander, you made the motion for us to adjourn. Mr. Blount second that motion. All in favor, please indicate. [0:11:00, 0:11:04]: All right, thank you. You'll take care. See you soon. Thank you. Goodbye. Bye bye.

--- title: Work Session Meeting date: 2022-02-22 source: 2022-02-22_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:01:35, 0:01:37]: Good evening, gentlemen. How you doing? [0:01:38, 0:01:42]: Mr. Bond, please make me a co host, sir. [0:01:48, 0:01:50]: Good evening, Mr Mayor. [0:01:50, 0:01:51]: Hey, how you doing Destiny? I'm sorry. [0:01:51, 0:01:53]: I'm doing fine and you? [0:01:53, 0:01:54]: Good, good. Good deal. [0:02:20, 0:02:21]: Good evening, Mayor. [0:02:21, 0:02:24]: Oh good evening. Um you kind of well. [0:02:28, 0:02:41]: Didn't I just get finished talking to you not too long ago, huh? Hey no Vanessa, all right. Let's go what we got here. Thank you, Ms. Halliday. [0:02:49, 0:02:50]: C messaging, yeah. [0:03:04, 0:03:09]: And we are recording right now. We're just not live on the Facebook live just yet, but we are recording. [0:03:17, 0:03:18]: That's [0:03:42, 0:03:43]: Good afternoon, everyone. [0:03:43, 0:03:44]: No. [0:03:44, 0:03:45]: What to do? [0:03:49, 0:03:49]: The Ingram. [0:03:50, 0:03:51]: How are you, sir? [0:03:51, 0:03:53]: And how about yourself? [0:03:53, 0:03:54]: Fantastic. [0:03:54, 0:03:55]: Good, good. [0:03:56, 0:03:58]: And and everyone else that I can't see. [0:04:40, 0:04:41]: [295.9, 299.3]: [0:05:03, 0:05:04]: Mm-hmm. [0:05:06, 0:05:07]: [308.5, 310.0]: [0:05:27, 0:05:28]: [329.5, 330.5]: Mm. [0:05:31, 0:05:32]: Mm-hmm. [0:05:54, 0:05:55]: Oh [0:06:00, 0:06:01]: [364.6, 367.6]: [0:06:09, 0:06:11]: [443.5, 444.5]: Good evening. [0:07:28, 0:07:29]: Good evening. [0:07:42, 0:07:42]: Yeah. [0:07:43, 0:07:44]: Yeah. [0:07:58, 0:08:00]: Hello. Hello there. [0:08:01, 0:08:02]: How you doing, Mr. Wood? [0:08:02, 0:08:04]: I'm good. How are you doing? [0:08:04, 0:08:05]: Really, good. [0:08:06, 0:08:09]: We are now actually streaming live on Facebook as well. [0:08:53, 0:08:55]: Are you going councilman Alexander? [0:08:57, 0:09:03]: Okay, so what do we have? We don't do it, sir. All right, alrighty. So we don't have our attorneys. [0:09:05, 0:09:06]: Oh. [0:09:10, 0:09:11]: Oh [0:09:15, 0:09:18]: And RC better. [0:09:19, 0:09:21]: Okay [0:09:30, 0:09:31]: Uh uh. [0:09:42, 0:09:42]: [609.0, 610.2]: Good evening, everyone. [0:10:12, 0:10:13]: Good evening. [0:10:14, 0:10:15]: Good evening. [0:11:13, 0:11:17]: We'll get started in just a bit, folks. Just waiting for the attorney to sign in. [0:12:04, 0:12:08]: Outstanding. Okay. On that note, ladies and gentlemen, I have [0:12:08, 0:12:11]: six oh two and like to call this uh [0:12:11, 0:12:15]: February twenty second um council work session to order. [0:12:16, 0:12:20]: And uh on that note, um, I need invocation. [0:12:20, 0:12:22]: And that would be uh [0:12:22, 0:12:23]: Ms. Gantt, please. [0:12:24, 0:12:26]: Thank you. Let's bow our heads. [0:12:26, 0:12:38]: Dear God, all authority is yours, but have given authority to leaders to protect and guide us. Today we ask that you would give all our leaders wisdom, discernment, strength, and resolve. [0:12:38, 0:12:46]: Keep them healthy, safe, and rested so that they can continue to guide us through the troubling time. [0:12:46, 0:13:06]: Give our government leaders wisdom about what needs to be done to stop the virus and stabilize our economy. Give our spiritual leaders your discernment on how to meet people's needs as they continue to glorify your name and encourage the church. Give our medical leaders insight into how to stop the virus. [0:13:06, 0:13:12]: strengthen their resolve, honor their hard work in creating a treatment for the COVID-19 virus. [0:13:13, 0:13:18]: Give our civic leaders inspiration, courage, and joy and strength. [0:13:18, 0:13:21]: And meet the needs that meet the needs of our community. [0:13:22, 0:13:29]: And help us as leaders in our communities to display courage, hope, generosity, and kindness. [0:13:30, 0:13:35]: Would they would the way we honor others inspire those around us? [0:13:35, 0:13:37]: In Jesus' name we pray. Amen. [0:13:37, 0:13:38]: Amen. [0:13:39, 0:13:42]: All right. Uh let's do the Pledge Allegiance. Please stand. [0:13:45, 0:13:52]: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands. [0:13:53, 0:13:55]: One nation under God. [0:13:55, 0:13:58]: indivisible with liberty and justice for all. [0:14:02, 0:14:04]: All right, madam Turkney roll call, please. [0:14:07, 0:14:08]: Mayor Ford? Pleasant. [0:14:09, 0:14:11]: May approach him Thomas. [0:14:11, 0:14:12]: Present. [0:14:12, 0:14:13]: Councilman Alexander. [0:14:14, 0:14:15]: Present. [0:14:15, 0:14:16]: Councilwoman Barber. [0:14:16, 0:14:17]: What's that? [0:14:17, 0:14:18]: Councilman Blount. [0:14:19, 0:14:19]: Resident. [0:14:20, 0:14:21]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:14:21, 0:14:22]: Present. [0:14:22, 0:14:29]: Mayor Ford, do you have a form? Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate it. All right, Council, I need the uh motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:14:30, 0:14:32]: That's something. [0:14:33, 0:14:34]: You can find it. Yes, ma'am. [0:14:35, 0:14:43]: I'd like to amend the agenda to add an item to task staff to seek clarity on ambiguity in the contract. [0:14:43, 0:14:57]: of the amphitheater to include what the actual validity period of this one year contract is because the first page only has the execution date of August 1st. But it doesn't include the end date. [0:14:57, 0:14:59]: However, on page three. [0:14:59, 0:15:01]: Under management team. [0:15:01, 0:15:03]: It says that the city is obligated. [0:15:03, 0:15:05]: To pay ninety thousand dollars a year. [0:15:06, 0:15:08]: But the language suggests that the city will pay [0:15:08, 0:15:10]: A management fee. [0:15:10, 0:15:11]: Of seventy five hundred. [0:15:11, 0:15:12]: Dollars per month. [0:15:13, 0:15:14]: Beginning August first. [0:15:14, 0:15:18]: through December thirty first of twenty twenty two. [0:15:19, 0:15:22]: that's exceeds ninety thousand dollars. That's actually [0:15:23, 0:15:24]: Seventeen months. [0:15:24, 0:15:27]: A total of a hundred and twenty-seven thousand. [0:15:27, 0:15:28]: Five hundred dollars. [0:15:28, 0:15:30]: So I want to pass that. [0:15:30, 0:15:31]: We [0:15:31, 0:15:35]: Uh seeking clarity on the ambiguity of the contract. [0:15:35, 0:15:36]: There's a second to the motion. [0:15:39, 0:15:39]: I second. [0:15:40, 0:15:44]: Yeah, okay. Mayor Protein second that motion. All in favor of adding this to the agenda, please indicate. [0:15:47, 0:15:48]: All opposed. [0:15:51, 0:16:00]: Okay, ma' motion fails. Okay. I need a motion to adopt it. Yes, ma'am. Um I have two other items that I wanted to amend the agenda for. [0:16:00, 0:16:08]: The other one is to task staff with exploring and researching what the benefits of sponsorship opportunities would mean for the city. [0:16:09, 0:16:11]: Okay, so second to that motion. [0:16:13, 0:16:14]: Is there a secondary motion? [0:16:15, 0:16:17]: Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. [0:16:17, 0:16:21]: Uh could you have uh Councilwoman Bob to to repeat the motion? [0:16:23, 0:16:26]: I like to test staff with exploring and researching. [0:16:27, 0:16:31]: what the benefits of sponsorship opportunities would mean for the city. [0:16:32, 0:16:34]: There are second to the motion. [0:16:34, 0:16:35]: I'll suck on that. [0:16:36, 0:16:39]: Okay, so motion a second. All in favor of having added study agenda, please indicate. [0:16:40, 0:16:41]: All in favor. [0:16:42, 0:16:43]: Opposed. [0:16:44, 0:16:45]: I abstain. [0:16:46, 0:16:53]: Okay, it's it's two to two, two, zero, two. I'll vote that we're not uh talk about this tonight. So it passes three, three, [0:16:53, 0:17:00]: I have one more item. All right. Last one is to task staff with presenting to the council their recommendation. [0:17:00, 0:17:05]: To award a new bank of order. [0:17:06, 0:17:08]: Yeah, you f you voted no, right? [0:17:08, 0:17:25]: I did. I voted no on the on the last on the last motion. Yes. So you said it passes. I'm sorry, motion failed. Excuse me, motion failed. I voted no. I noted that it it had. Okay. All right. Go ahead with go ahead with your third uh uh potential agenda item, Miss Barber. [0:17:25, 0:17:27]: The task staff with presenting to the council. [0:17:28, 0:17:31]: their recommendation to award a new venue management contract. [0:17:31, 0:17:36]: by our April work session. No, by our main council meeting. Sorry. [0:17:37, 0:17:38]: Is there a second to that motion? [0:17:39, 0:17:41]: Can you repeat that again, please? I'm sorry. [0:17:44, 0:17:47]: Um to task staff present to present to the council. [0:17:48, 0:17:49]: Their recommendation [0:17:49, 0:17:53]: To award a new venue management contract. [0:17:53, 0:17:55]: But our May [0:17:55, 0:17:56]: Council meeting. [0:17:57, 0:17:58]: So second to that motion. [0:18:00, 0:18:01]: Is there a second to the motion? [0:18:02, 0:18:07]: No second motion fails. Now ladies and gentlemen, we need a motion to adopt the applended agenda, please. [0:18:08, 0:18:08]: Oh [0:18:09, 0:18:09]: Is there a second? [0:18:10, 0:18:11]: A second. [0:18:11, 0:18:14]: Okay, all in favor of the motion, all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:18:16, 0:18:18]: Okay. I'll pose. [0:18:19, 0:18:39]: Okay, three zero excuse me, four zero one uh four one zero. All right, now we'll move on. Review, please review the draft minutes uh that are for January fourth, which is a uh council special call meeting on on the uh January fourth, the draft minutes for the council meeting on January tenth, and also the draft uh minutes on the council meeting. [0:18:39, 0:18:41]: Council work session on January twenty-fifth. [0:18:42, 0:18:49]: And on our next council meeting we'll be able to approve those particular minutes. Uh on that note, uh Madam Clerk, any public comments? [0:18:49, 0:19:01]: Yes, Mayor Ford, we have a public comment from Sonny Randazzo, Bryant Street, Stockbridge, Georgia. Okay. Once again, I ask the council to address noise mitigation for the amphitheater concerts. [0:19:01, 0:19:03]: before the concerts. [0:19:04, 0:19:11]: I am already suffering from tinnitus from the high decibel beeping for two years and counting still happening. [0:19:11, 0:19:20]: As it references in this article, hearing damage can occur when exposed to decibels over a long period of time. [0:19:20, 0:19:21]: Also [0:19:21, 0:19:24]: Excess noise is very harmful to children. [0:19:25, 0:19:26]: People should take heed. [0:19:27, 0:19:30]: All over the world lawsuits are being filed. [0:19:30, 0:19:33]: Against venues for excessive noise. [0:19:33, 0:19:35]: Since two thousand and eighteen. [0:19:35, 0:19:38]: I have been trying to get an answer to this. [0:19:38, 0:19:44]: There are many solutions to this problem. Sound curtains, sound canceling machines. [0:19:45, 0:19:47]: Flipping every other speaker. [0:19:48, 0:19:52]: It's well past time that the council addresses this issue. [0:19:52, 0:19:57]: I may the b I may be the most vocal on this issue, but I am not the only one affected. [0:19:58, 0:20:00]: Other citizens can hear it past flipping road. [0:20:01, 0:20:04]: And down old Conyers at Landover. [0:20:04, 0:20:07]: This venue should never have been constructed. [0:20:07, 0:20:09]: In a residential area. [0:20:09, 0:20:12]: No one should be run out of their home. [0:20:12, 0:20:24]: If we have money to erect flags and flagposts, we should have money to address an issue that should have been part of the$23 million construction in the first place. [0:20:24, 0:20:27]: As I said in two thousand and eighty eighteen [0:20:27, 0:20:31]: before you broke ground. Thank you. [0:20:31, 0:20:40]: There was a second um public comment from the same individual and what it um had on that comment was it referenced a company. [0:20:41, 0:20:42]: to where [0:20:42, 0:20:45]: Some of these items can be purchased. [0:20:46, 0:20:55]: That's how I appreciate you too to have that. We'll be able to uh turn it over to our management company and we'll work through this issue as we will continue to work and solve it. Mr. Plunk, go ahead, please. [0:20:56, 0:21:04]: Mayor, Mr Um uh Mr Garner, do you have an update for us pertaining to mitigated the sounds attempt here? [0:21:06, 0:21:07]: Yes, sir. [0:21:07, 0:21:13]: Good afternoon, Mayor Council. Uh yes, I'm asking uh Heather with TSW to [0:21:13, 0:21:23]: um bring to us um hopefully at the next meeting uh next month, first meeting next month, some mitigation uh options and then be able to choose one and move forward. [0:21:24, 0:21:25]: Thank you, sir. Appreciate that. [0:21:26, 0:21:46]: All right. On that note, uh no more comments. Correct uh public comments? Is that correct? Okay. We'll move on to new business. Council consideration to approve the 2022 Media Outdoor Link Billboard contract for advertising services in the amount of uh forty-nine thousand four hundred dollars with seven billboard locations presented by Kim Jordan. Please. [0:21:46, 0:21:46]: Please. [0:21:47, 0:21:48]: Thank you, Mayor. [0:21:48, 0:21:53]: Good evening. I'm Kim Jordan, the um City of Stockbreaks events manager. [0:21:53, 0:22:01]: And I am presenting this evening a request for approval from the council for a billboard. [0:22:02, 0:22:17]: um amount of$49,400 to secure digital billboards throughout Metro Atlanta, busy interstates and roads in order to advertise the amphitheater concerts, all city events and programs and Stockbridge in general. [0:22:18, 0:22:25]: These digital billboards have content that we can put on them, pictures, and the messaging can be changed. [0:22:26, 0:22:40]: Um, and we will update as needed to advertise for upcoming events. We actually have a total of three Henry County Visitor and Tourism Bureau billboards for our use for free of charge. [0:22:40, 0:22:47]: Um and in addition, we want to add with the$49,400, there'll be a total of um [0:22:48, 0:22:54]: nine additional ones. So we've added two more for the same price with negotiating. [0:22:55, 0:22:57]: For prime uh interstate visibility. [0:22:58, 0:22:59]: And um [0:23:01, 0:23:07]: To to create a real robust campaign for a large outreach outside of Stockbridge in the Southern Crescent region. [0:23:07, 0:23:16]: Down towards Macon, north up through the city of Atlanta, reaching commuters and transient travelers from the east and west corridors as well. [0:23:16, 0:23:19]: So we have a total of like I said, um [0:23:19, 0:23:21]: Eleven that would be [0:23:22, 0:23:29]: I'm sorry, three that would be from the tourism bureau and nine that would be purchased for a year. [0:23:29, 0:23:32]: And they would rotate content as as we need it to. [0:23:32, 0:23:36]: And the impressions that we get um are very vast. [0:23:37, 0:23:46]: We have an estimated uh weekly impressions for the total of the twelve to be uh uh over one million, one million six hundred and thirty-seven thousand. [0:23:48, 0:23:55]: Okay. Okay, Cam. So otherwise uh that's a total of twelve billboards overall for the next year is what we're t if we once we pass this. Is that correct? [0:23:56, 0:23:59]: That's correct. And we can start as early advertising as March 1st. [0:24:00, 0:24:04]: And the uh maybe I might have missed it, but all these billboards are electronic. [0:24:04, 0:24:06]: They're yes, sir, they're digital. [0:24:06, 0:24:16]: So they're not static and we can change them uh and they'll rotate uh through different advertising to catch people um as they're driving. [0:24:17, 0:24:18]: Okay, good deal. [0:24:18, 0:24:24]: Um you were unmuted, uh Councilman Alexander. I'm pretty sure you got something on your mind, sir. Go ahead, please. [0:24:24, 0:24:27]: I wanna understand the [0:24:27, 0:24:33]: We had our own company. We had a separ another company that was doing the advertising previously. [0:24:33, 0:24:37]: So is this the same company that we were using or is this a different company? [0:24:37, 0:24:40]: For the billboards, we've used link. [0:24:40, 0:24:42]: For the past two єers. [0:24:42, 0:24:44]: So this is the same company. [0:24:45, 0:24:53]: Okay, so this is the same company. I heard I'm sorry. I heard you mention uh the chamber. We had had our own separate distinct [0:24:53, 0:24:57]: advertising that we wanted city branded. [0:24:57, 0:24:59]: Only for the city. [0:24:59, 0:25:03]: I don't wanna make sure that we're not signing up for something where [0:25:03, 0:25:05]: We're co branding or [0:25:05, 0:25:07]: Using our advertisement for [0:25:08, 0:25:11]: Uh different venues in Henry County. We want to be using this. [0:25:11, 0:25:14]: Advertising venue only for the city of Stockbridge. [0:25:14, 0:25:15]: Is that correct? [0:25:17, 0:25:20]: That's the way I'm proposing it. Yes, sir. Go ahead, Connell. [0:25:21, 0:25:41]: Um what happens is the uh tourism boards are strictly our boards for a period of time. Um and we have the first requests in from other uh agencies or other members of the the chamber to use these boards. [0:25:41, 0:25:48]: boards. We we have uh permission to use these boards. And that's I think it's a at a three month intervals. [0:25:48, 0:25:57]: See, that's the issue that I've had with that. But it's strictly our boards. I I know we're working with the chamber. When we work with the chamber, they're not [0:25:57, 0:26:07]: If you're saying the tourism board, we don't have a tourism board. That's the Chambers Tourism Board. And they will be dictating what goes on those boards. And previously [0:26:08, 0:26:11]: We haven't been getting our just due when we partnered with the chamber. [0:26:11, 0:26:14]: That's why we went in our own separate direction. [0:26:14, 0:26:16]: So, my concern is [0:26:16, 0:26:19]: The tourism board gets to decide. So we sign up. [0:26:19, 0:26:23]: Then they decide to a uh advertise for Atlanta Motor Speedway. [0:26:23, 0:26:25]: through this tourism board. [0:26:25, 0:26:34]: That's our dollars going back to this chamber when we wanted our own separate direct marketing organization that this council council voted for. I don't I'm not [0:26:35, 0:26:48]: I don't like the arrangement where we we were partnering or going out and working with the chamber when we asked for our own distinct, unique, direct marketing organization. We were supposed to be going in that direction. [0:26:48, 0:26:53]: And in the last two years we haven't done that and here we go running right back to the chamber again. [0:26:55, 0:27:12]: Sir, I I I I want to say that we have discussed with them what the content will be. And the content for a period of time, we do not own the boards, but for a period of time, for instance, for the John Party concert. [0:27:13, 0:27:16]: And the uh next concert of May seventh. [0:27:16, 0:27:31]: And whatever comes in June, we have exclusive rights for those boards. No one else will use those boards. That is our time period. And then we can make the appeal to use them again or other boards that they have available. [0:27:31, 0:27:46]: So we do have strict, it is our messaging only on those boards. Well, you know, it's electronic boards, so other people will be on them, but we have just as are the boards that we're paying for, we're in that rotation. [0:27:47, 0:27:52]: Yeah, I our message will be in that rotation. I know that, but previously [0:27:52, 0:28:10]: We had our boards dedicated only to stock bridge. Period. There was no time limit on that. Our board had our message on it throughout the year. No one else had a right to interject into that. I that's my personal preference. I don't like [0:28:10, 0:28:25]: partnering with the chamber because of our past experience with not getting what we invested with always Atlanta Motor Speedway is always other stuff. Now we have the power. It's coming back toward us. That's just not [0:28:26, 0:28:30]: It's okay now because we had we s we decided to go. [0:28:30, 0:28:33]: Uh into our own direction. I don't have a lot I don't have [0:28:33, 0:28:34]: Uh um [0:28:35, 0:28:38]: I don't want to say that uh I would be [0:28:38, 0:28:57]: for and against we're ever working with the chamber again, but we made a decision to go on our own. So our board would always have our message on it. That's what I'm trying to do. I want a board and you asking me with our message on it at all times, not somebody else's. [0:28:58, 0:29:18]: No, that would mean that we would have static boards to have one message. I I know the boards do rotate in time, but our message, the Stockbridge message, would be on there every month of the year. It would not be something where it will rotate out to another city at some point doing another tour. [0:29:18, 0:29:18]: was on board. [0:29:19, 0:29:24]: I like the the setup that we had. What is what how can we go back to that setup? [0:29:24, 0:29:26]: We have that in this package, sir. [0:29:26, 0:29:33]: Are these the boards that we would purchase? We would have control of the content and it would um be city focused. [0:29:34, 0:29:38]: Is is that what you're interested in? What I'm proposing for [0:29:38, 0:29:40]: The forty nine thousand. [0:29:41, 0:30:01]: I'm interested in what we were already doing, which is we had a message and we had a deal with the organization that would only promote Stockbridge. Our money, every cent of it was going to promote Stock Bridge, the Stock Bridge message. We wasn't using chamber uh uh message. [0:30:01, 0:30:07]: board we were using our own message boards but i'll i'll refer to the other council [0:30:07, 0:30:14]: He gives you that, sir, in this package. You do have those seven or nine boards that you will have. [0:30:14, 0:30:34]: for that would only be our message, that that amount is 37,700. And then the uh and with the additional boards that we uh are looking at from um Lamar, that would give us the total amount of boards. So we have two companies that in that package, that is what we're asking to be [0:30:34, 0:30:37]: approved for the forty nine thousand seven hundred dollars. [0:30:38, 0:30:40]: Ms. Barber, please, go ahead. [0:30:43, 0:30:46]: Thank you, Mayor. My question is for Mr. Wiggins. [0:30:47, 0:30:49]: Can you tell me um [0:30:49, 0:30:56]: How did how much did we spend on billboard advertisements last year? I know we approved. [0:30:56, 0:30:56]: Um [0:30:57, 0:31:00]: Billboards for last year. I'm just curious. [0:31:00, 0:31:02]: to know how much this has increased. [0:31:03, 0:31:06]: I can tell you that it was forty six thousand. [0:31:06, 0:31:09]: Oh forty forty two thousand, forty two or forty six thousand. [0:31:09, 0:31:11]: It was forty two. [0:31:12, 0:31:14]: We paid about three thousand nine hundred a monthly. [0:31:15, 0:31:15]: So [0:31:16, 0:31:19]: Yeah, it's about forty. So it went up, uh it's forty nine. This went up um [0:31:20, 0:31:22]: Six thousand yeah, six thousand lost. [0:31:23, 0:31:24]: Or. [0:31:24, 0:31:26]: But we're not too far from [0:31:27, 0:31:29]: It's been going up every year a little bit. [0:31:29, 0:31:31]: Just six thousand, okay. [0:31:32, 0:31:35]: All right, uh Mayor Pro Tem, please. [0:31:39, 0:31:43]: Thank you. I I I want to get back to [0:31:43, 0:31:45]: The issue of having a [0:31:45, 0:31:56]: constant message every month. And I think uh Mr. Ingram, you sort of spoke today, you and Mrs. Jordan, y'all sort of spoke to the the the two boards. [0:31:56, 0:32:03]: Uh and and I'm somewhat um agreeing with uh Councilman Alexander. [0:32:03, 0:32:13]: uh because that needs to be a message every month and i think uh mr ingrin you you sort of spoke to that can you re- uh elaborate on [0:32:14, 0:32:15]: Um [0:32:15, 0:32:17]: The star bridge message. [0:32:18, 0:32:21]: uh being available to be out there every month. [0:32:23, 0:32:43]: Yes, sir. On on the link boards, which are those nine boards, seven boards from Link Media. They are digital boards. And Ms. Jordan and I have talked with Link to assure that those messages will be strictly stockbridge messages. [0:32:43, 0:33:03]: rotated uh at 10 second intervals uh 24 hours a day. Um and those will strictly be our boards. The uh so so to answer your question, we that will be our messaging for any campaign that we decide to do. The regrand opening of the uh Moral Amanda Conference [0:33:03, 0:33:15]: Center, the concerts, uh, you know, as they come every uh during the the concert season from April to October uh and other specific. [0:33:15, 0:33:22]: city events uh as well. So we will address each of those as those events come up. [0:33:23, 0:33:28]: So uh m Mrs. Jordan, uh let me ask you this. I'm I'm trying to see [0:33:30, 0:33:32]: What is the purpose? [0:33:32, 0:33:34]: Of pay in [0:33:35, 0:33:45]: for the additional board when we could just pay for one board and have our message uh every month. So Ms. Jordan, can you sort of [0:33:45, 0:33:46]: Explain why [0:33:47, 0:33:48]: We will spend the money. [0:33:49, 0:33:55]: on the second board when we can just pay for one board and have our message um every month. [0:33:56, 0:34:05]: Um yes, sir. These boards are located all around the Metro Atlanta area. So they're gonna target and reach uh all sorts of different [0:34:05, 0:34:19]: um travelers on the interstates. So we have um so we're gonna reach people in Conyers driving into the city. We're gonna reach people coming up from Macon. We're gonna reach people uh even as far as Kinnesaw, Cobb Parkway. [0:34:19, 0:34:21]: Um Ackworth, Eaton, [0:34:22, 0:34:26]: Peace Corners and uh public um I'm sorry, Peace Street Industrial Boulevard. [0:34:26, 0:34:38]: Old Dixie Highway and Norcross, we're gonna reach all touch points everywhere throughout the city to advertise. And we brought in I'm sorry, we brought in the reach from uh previous years. [0:34:39, 0:34:45]: So why if I'm understanding this, why why having two boys when we can just have one and do the same thing? [0:34:46, 0:34:47]: I don't know the stand. [0:34:47, 0:34:49]: These are total of the seven boards. [0:34:50, 0:34:52]: The total seven boards. [0:34:52, 0:34:54]: Um or actually eight boards that we would [0:34:55, 0:35:00]: Rent rent throughout the year that would have our message. [0:35:00, 0:35:03]: Um and rotate 24 hours a day in [0:35:04, 0:35:07]: Eight different locations, eight different interstates. [0:35:07, 0:35:14]: I I thought I heard seven and two, and I heard and the way uh Councilman Alexander was was. [0:35:14, 0:35:18]: Sort of indicating um that issue with the county. [0:35:18, 0:35:22]: And I heard that that we will have a three month. [0:35:22, 0:35:34]: priority but then after that other entities will be able to um use their board and so we would not have anything at that point in time so i'm just trying to see what's what's the point [0:35:34, 0:35:35]: Of [0:35:36, 0:35:47]: Of having that board when we can just have one board and do everything we need to do every month. Oh yes, sir. Those are the three those are the three boards from the um Henry County Chamber. [0:35:47, 0:35:58]: um visitor yes sir those are not included in the purchase or the rental cost those are [0:35:59, 0:36:06]: Those are included. We don't have to pay additional to use those boards. And that's the three month period uh Mr. Ingram was speaking to. [0:36:07, 0:36:13]: And see, and I and I'm not gonna raise this issue right now, but I know some of the council members do understand. [0:36:14, 0:36:14]: Well [0:36:15, 0:36:17]: Let let me now open that up. You know, with the um [0:36:19, 0:36:30]: I think Mrs. Gantt, I think Mrs. Gantt, I think Oliver was here at the time and we had we had an issue where we wanted to sort of be independent, but um I I'll just let that go. [0:36:31, 0:36:34]: I believe w we would be totally independent with the boards that we're renting. [0:36:36, 0:36:40]: And then the the the three from the chamber is just I guess gravy. [0:36:41, 0:36:47]: Yeah, I I I I I think Miss Gantt know where I was getting ready to go, but I but I I won't go there. [0:36:48, 0:36:51]: Okay. Thank you. Ms. Gann, go ahead, please. [0:36:51, 0:37:06]: Wait, Ms. G. Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem Thomas. And and I agree with Councilman Alexander. I agree with Mayor Pro Tem. I agree with everyone. I think what we're trying to talk about is uh a little bit different, the CBB boards, and those are the three free boards I think that you're mentioning. [0:37:07, 0:37:17]: But we've had an issue in the past that we probably need to discuss at the retreat in regards to the CVV that's been further delayed. I think we're about two years behind where we say we want it to be. [0:37:18, 0:37:19]: Um other than that [0:37:19, 0:37:23]: I'm in agreement with the billboards going all over. I think that's a great [0:37:24, 0:37:24]: Um [0:37:25, 0:37:26]: Um [0:37:27, 0:37:28]: Great locations. [0:37:29, 0:37:40]: spread it out, you know, hit people in different directions and get them to come see the best amphitheater in the um state of Georgia. So just I think that's a great idea. Thank you. [0:37:41, 0:37:42]: Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [0:37:43, 0:37:47]: Uh thank you, Mayor. Um I just want to say I think that uh [0:37:47, 0:37:49]: The main point that was asked by [0:37:50, 0:37:59]: You know, all everyone here, I think those concerns have been answered. And I think we have some things we need to do also. And I I believe that in the um [0:38:00, 0:38:06]: uh event that we have, you know, have our retreat that those things be answered. Because when we was even had to campaign for um [0:38:06, 0:38:08]: Um our you know [0:38:09, 0:38:13]: During the COVID, uh, had got many phone calls that people saw. [0:38:13, 0:38:33]: our billboard. So to have those billboards scattered abroad that different parts of angles from different areas, because you see so much advertisement for Henry County coming in from different areas, it'd be good to see some stop bridge advertisement go on. I think a lot of the questions have been answered pertaining to this. And I see Councilman [0:38:33, 0:38:40]: Woman Barber has her hands up, but I would like for us to go ahead and approve the 49,400. Uh our motion to approve it. [0:38:41, 0:38:44]: Are you making a motion on that you're making a motion right now, sir? Is that what you're doing? [0:38:44, 0:38:49]: Yes. Okay, good deal. Uh Miss uh appreciate that. Miss Barber, you have some additional comments? [0:38:49, 0:38:56]: I do. Um one question for Ms. Jordan. How many of those billboards are specific to stockwords? Did you say seven? [0:38:58, 0:39:05]: Um, no, they're scattered all around in Stockbridge itself or the three from the uh visitor bureau. [0:39:06, 0:39:15]: And then we have um a couple in McDonough on 75. Okay. That would be part of the purchase or rental price. [0:39:15, 0:39:16]: Um [0:39:16, 0:39:20]: But mostly they're outside of Stockbridge, the ones that we would be renting. [0:39:20, 0:39:26]: Okay, thank you. I have mo a motion has been made uh made by uh councilman Blount. Is there a second? [0:39:26, 0:39:35]: I second. Ms. Ganttz seconds that okay. Plenty of discussion. All in favor of motion, please indicate. So a little one more question. I just want a clarification on one thing. [0:39:35, 0:39:44]: Now we have the seven boards that are going to be dedicated to the city with the city message on them only. That's our [0:39:45, 0:39:47]: Yep, that's our board. That's right, Miss Jordan. [0:39:48, 0:39:49]: Yes, sir. [0:39:49, 0:40:01]: Okay, and then we have three additional boards with the Convention and Visitors Bureau where there's no charge for those boards to come to us for a three month period, right? [0:40:02, 0:40:03]: Yes, sir. [0:40:03, 0:40:08]: Okay, after the three months, does a charge incur at that point or no? [0:40:08, 0:40:09]: No, sir. [0:40:10, 0:40:30]: Okay, so it's it's free. So uh that that is the seven boards that we're paying for. That's it, the three remain free. That's what you're saying, correct? Well the yes, the three the three remain free and then rotate on to a different um member of the chain. Okay, certainly. Okay, okay. I'm going to go. [0:40:29, 0:40:42]: And let me just clarify one thing um to your point. We are uh renting eight, uh a total of nine boards, not seven, nine. And it's uh we added two since you've received the the agenda. [0:40:42, 0:40:43]: For the same price. [0:40:43, 0:40:49]: So nine boards with the stop bridge specific message year round included. [0:40:50, 0:40:51]: In the part that's what we're paying for. [0:40:52, 0:40:56]: Yes, sir, and we'll rotate the content to advertise our events that we want to. [0:40:56, 0:40:58]: Okay, well thank you. It's free. Thanks. [0:40:59, 0:41:01]: All right, Mr Blount. Go ahead, please, sir. [0:41:01, 0:41:06]: But we but you did say all of these boards are digital boards. [0:41:06, 0:41:19]: That would with someone else can come and do other advertising, but for us, we can we're only gonna advertise the funding that we have for our own brand and what we're doing. Is that what you're saying? [0:41:19, 0:41:25]: Correct. We will the digital boards, we can't control everything going on. Right, right. No, they rotate. They rotate. [0:41:25, 0:41:30]: That's what I want to that's what I want to make sure everybody truly understands that. [0:41:30, 0:41:33]: Yeah, they will upload our artwork or content. [0:41:34, 0:41:39]: that we submit and then it will go into the rotation cycle with other companies who are also renting. [0:41:39, 0:41:45]: But I have requested and I'll make sure with the contract that we are not like back to back with a competitor. [0:41:45, 0:41:52]: with our messaging. So anything like that would be in a rotation out, you know, away from our messaging. [0:41:53, 0:41:54]: Or [0:41:54, 0:41:56]: Mr. Gardner, you had your hand up earlier as well. [0:41:57, 0:42:03]: I I think there's clarity. Um and Mr. Alexander, it the the boards with the chamber are not free. [0:42:04, 0:42:10]: Um, I think that's where your little hotel motel tax that you pay to them and then that's paid for them. That's correct. They're not really free. [0:42:11, 0:42:21]: Okay, so they're not free. Okay, thanks. I mean we there's no direct cost to Yeah, yeah, they they you know because we don't have that many hotels. [0:42:22, 0:42:33]: And they serve as our they serve as our tourism destination organization. So a portion of what comes from our hotel motel that goes to them for that specific activity. That's what they pay for those boards for on our behalf. [0:42:34, 0:42:35]: Okay. [0:42:35, 0:42:40]: All right, good deal. Plenty of discussion. Great stuff. Motion is made in a second. So all in favor of motion, please indicate. [0:42:41, 0:43:01]: Looks like it's okay, four oh five. Okay, it's an announcement decision. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Uh Public Works Department is requesting the city council's approval to increase the annual contract two zero one nine-000 two two P with uh CGL facilities uh maintenance. [0:43:01, 0:43:10]: LLC for right-of-way landscaping to the annual amount of$300,000 as approved in the FY 2022 budget. [0:43:10, 0:43:28]: The account number is 100-422-00-522-000 right-of-way landscaping. The FY 2021 contract amount with GCGL was$210,000. [0:43:28, 0:43:37]: The staff is requesting an additional increase of$90,000 to maintain the rights away that were turned over to the city from Henry County in the service delivery strategy. [0:43:38, 0:43:39]: Mr. Aaron, please. [0:43:39, 0:43:51]: Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. Uh Public Works is coming before you tonight to request that the annual contract with CGL be amended to be congruent with what was approved in the FY 2022 budget. [0:43:52, 0:44:03]: We've noticed over the last year in conversations with Henry County that some polls and road right-of-ways were turned over to the city in the latest service delivery strategy updates. [0:44:04, 0:44:15]: And one of those roads uh is Campground Road. Henry County was more on the road. And all of a sudden we got a phone call or email from Herring County saying they was getting ready to. [0:44:15, 0:44:19]: re be it their annual lawn maintenance account. [0:44:19, 0:44:36]: And they notified us that they would no longer be more in the section that was inside the city limits of Stockbridge. Also, we got notification on Mount Zion Road and some other roads. It's our understanding from conversations with Henry County that any road the county was maintaining that. [0:44:36, 0:44:44]: travels through the city, they will no longer maintain and or provide any maintenance on those roads. That would be strictly the city's responsibility. [0:44:45, 0:44:49]: And also last year we had some requests, we did some plannings on [0:44:50, 0:45:09]: Uh Campground Road, we did some planners on East Lake, and those came out of that right of way maintenance account. So we just want to make sure that we have the resources available to maintain the right-of-aways in the condition that mayor and council want to see those right-of-ways. We're efforting like everybody else to find additional staff. [0:45:09, 0:45:19]: We're having three interviews this week. We're having a job fair to try to fill those 10 vacancies. We're feeling the same effects at Herring County. They're trying to fill 300 vacancies. So [0:45:20, 0:45:35]: But in the interim, we want to ensure that the right-of-ways are maintained on a weekly basis as mayor and council requested. So we're asking that you amend the contract with CGL so that the contract will be congruent with what was approved in the FY 2022 budget. [0:45:37, 0:45:46]: Thank you, Mr. Aaron. All right, Council. What kind of questions do you have? Mr. Alexander waiting. Um thank you, Mr. Aaron. I appreciate that. Obviously we're trying to make sure that we move forward with [0:45:47, 0:45:55]: beautification in the city. Is it is this contractor, this contractor is currently maintaining what right of ways uh in the city at this point? [0:45:56, 0:46:04]: They're maintaining the courses of Flippin' Road, Walt Stevens Road, Highway 138, Jodico Road, East Atlanta Road. [0:46:05, 0:46:07]: And Davidson Parkway. [0:46:07, 0:46:08]: and old Atlanta road. [0:46:09, 0:46:22]: Who's maintaining a rock quarry road? Who's doing that? And they'll maintain rock quarter road as well. I forgot to mention that. Right. That that was the first one that they took over for. And man, they're doing a masterful job. Because even though and citizens should understand [0:46:22, 0:46:24]: The commitment that we have. [0:46:24, 0:46:25]: To [0:46:25, 0:46:27]: Beautification in the city. [0:46:27, 0:46:28]: Because some of Banks role [0:46:29, 0:46:31]: Is not Banks Row is not in the city limits. [0:46:32, 0:46:34]: But because of this council's commitment to [0:46:35, 0:46:37]: Making sure that we maintain our right of ways. [0:46:37, 0:46:38]: You know, used to be [0:46:39, 0:46:45]: The county would cut this part and uh the city would cut this part, the county wouldn't cut bank roll banks roll for [0:46:45, 0:46:48]: Three months, so we'd have like [0:46:48, 0:46:52]: Cut here, not cut there, but the city and this council as a whole. [0:46:52, 0:46:52]: Це [0:46:53, 0:47:00]: Let's stop that. The citizens don't care whether it's in the city limits or not. They want it to be maintained. And that's why Rock Quarry Road. [0:47:00, 0:47:01]: Looks like it looks now. [0:47:02, 0:47:04]: This contractor has been a doing [0:47:04, 0:47:05]: A good job and especially [0:47:06, 0:47:09]: I noticed especially when you get off highway one thirty eight now. [0:47:10, 0:47:15]: It's not embarrassing. It used to be a situation where you got off at highway one thirty-eight. [0:47:15, 0:47:30]: The grass was extremely tall, litter everywhere, and citizens have noticed that. So I'm certainly uh would like to see uh this I'm glad you said this contractor was Rock Courry Row because they're doing a great job. And uh I I've seen their work. [0:47:32, 0:47:33]: Okay, council. Any other comments from the council? [0:47:34, 0:47:36]: Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [0:47:37, 0:47:45]: Thank you, Mayor. So I see item number five for CGL that we're discussing for right away. [0:47:46, 0:47:49]: Um landscaping, but we also have [0:47:49, 0:47:51]: Item number eight on the agenda. [0:47:51, 0:47:53]: for Yellowstone. That's also landscaping. [0:47:54, 0:47:58]: Just for the purpose of um public knowledge and understanding. [0:47:58, 0:48:07]: Can you please provide them with what the difference between these two companies are? They're both landscaping companies. [0:48:08, 0:48:21]: Yes, ma'am. CGL maintains the city right-of-ways and helps supplement the maintenance of city right-of-ways. Yellowstone maintains the city buildings, such as the amphitheater, city hall, the municipal court, municipal park. [0:48:21, 0:48:35]: Ted Strickland Community Center, Merrill Manders. They maintained the Public Works Administrative Building. They maintain the banner stations at Rock Quarry Road and uh at Walmart, along with the historic markers at Florida Chapel and the Greenfront Cafe. [0:48:39, 0:48:50]: All right, uh counsel, any other questions, concerns? Yeah. Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. I didn't finish. I'm sorry. All right. What I wanted to ask was um so. [0:48:50, 0:48:53]: Last year we had a mid-year budget review. [0:48:53, 0:48:54]: Um [0:48:54, 0:48:55]: And [0:48:55, 0:48:58]: Because we just approved the budget two months ago. [0:48:59, 0:49:02]: Мстер Арин, Дюй Акалтор? [0:49:02, 0:49:03]: In the budget. [0:49:04, 0:49:05]: For twenty twenty two. [0:49:06, 0:49:26]: Yes, ma'am. These are numbers that were received from the vendor when we went over the services for the year. So it was included in the FY 2022 budget because there were some additions from the previous 2021 budget. So we just coming before you tonight so that we'll be congruent to what you approved in in the budget so that. [0:49:26, 0:49:38]: that when we put in a requisition for the purchase order, they'll match. Okay, so what you're asking is for us to amend the contract to expand or extend the scope of work. [0:49:38, 0:49:41]: to include those additional locations. [0:49:41, 0:50:01]: To have the funding available, I know that Campground Road is one that we will assume from the county, as well as Mount Zion Road and some additional right-of-ways from the county as of the recent updated service delivery strategy. So we want to have funding available. If we aren't able to find additional employees. [0:50:01, 0:50:14]: to supplement or fill those vacancies we currently have, we know those right of ways still have to be cut and maintained. So we wanna have the funding available for that and to meet the standards that mayor and council have wanted to see. [0:50:15, 0:50:16]: Well we [0:50:16, 0:50:21]: We've already budgeted three hundred thousand for it. So you have money in the budget. [0:50:21, 0:50:22]: Already. [0:50:22, 0:50:25]: You're not asking us to increase the budget amount. [0:50:26, 0:50:28]: No ma'am, I'm asking. [0:50:28, 0:50:31]: The contract agree with the budget. [0:50:32, 0:50:38]: Okay. Mr. Gardner, um, and I don't know what your thoughts are, but [0:50:38, 0:50:47]: Can we schedule mid-year or quarterly budget reviews so that we don't get these type of requests just sporadically throughout the year? [0:50:49, 0:50:56]: Well, I and and and council uh council uh baba we we spoke about it and when and when you say budget reviews. [0:50:56, 0:50:59]: Yeah, y are you talking about budget amendments? [0:50:59, 0:51:04]: As we as we discussed so so but the budget amendment process is when [0:51:05, 0:51:25]: You've exceeded what the budget line item is, then you amend the budget from pulling money from somewhere else that is not spending as much to show up that that other portion that's spending a little bit more. Um, that's a budget amendment. And as we discussed, you know, my philosophy is we look at it and try to look on a quarterly. [0:51:24, 0:51:31]: basis. Most finance directors, you know, they do it um biannually, twice a year. Um [0:51:32, 0:51:37]: And so you probably will see a budget amendment at some point within the fiscal year. [0:51:37, 0:51:44]: Um but to offset that we also look at giving you monthly reports as to where we are budget to actual. [0:51:44, 0:51:52]: Um so that you'll know on a monthly basis, you know, how we're faring. Um so so yeah, so in this case. [0:51:52, 0:51:52]: You know. [0:51:53, 0:51:56]: This is those and you guys approve a budget of three hundred. [0:51:56, 0:52:16]: Um, the original contract was in the neighborhood of 210, as what they had under. But with the additional right-a-ways that Henry County is throwing at us, in order to actually make sure we keep keep up with the maintenance, as Mr. Alexander said, we're uh we're adding those streets, but we know that they're gonna come at a cost. So at this point, we're [0:52:16, 0:52:21]: asking to just go to that level so that we can make sure that the company can continue to [0:52:22, 0:52:30]: as we add on these additional roads that Henry County will no longer maintain, they were able to maintain those. So that's that's the the clear cut way of doing it. [0:52:30, 0:52:35]: So if by some chance Henry County threw ten more right aways at us and they're no longer gonna do that. [0:52:36, 0:52:39]: And exceeds that three, that's when we'll come to you. [0:52:39, 0:52:43]: and asked to exceed that three, but that's when we'll also look at that's when that'll be [0:52:43, 0:52:48]: An ab an amendment to the budget to move money from where we're spending less to where we're spending more. [0:52:48, 0:52:51]: Okay, so and that is exactly my point. [0:52:51, 0:53:07]: What he's bringing to us now, we already have budgeted for it. Right. So he's he's he's on he's he's coming to that number, he's not exceeding it. But if by some chance, let's say for instance, Henry County say, Oh, by the way, you know, we're not gonna do Walt Stevens anymore either, and we're not gonna do [0:53:08, 0:53:17]: Like you know, Terry Street anymore. We used to. We know that the contractor is going to charge us some additional monies to run to maintain those right-of-ways. And if it exceeds that three, [0:53:17, 0:53:21]: That's when you'll see us have to find the money to pay'em and then we'd have to amend the budget. [0:53:22, 0:53:23]: To make sure we capture that cat. [0:53:24, 0:53:28]: Right. And what I'm asking is can you schedule quarterly? [0:53:28, 0:53:31]: budget review so that we can take care of [0:53:31, 0:53:35]: those amendments as opposed to them just coming to us. [0:53:35, 0:53:36]: sporadically. [0:53:36, 0:53:38]: Right. Yeah, and and and we'll, you know. [0:53:38, 0:53:58]: Usually, you know, staff between working with the finance director and the and the city manager, you know, at some point we determine where those are and we move them. Um we'll come to you guys and say, hey, here's the budget amendment where we've got to move XYC. Um there might be times when we don't have to, everything might be in line, so there is no need for a budget amendment as long as everything stays. [0:53:58, 0:54:13]: under what we budget, we'll continue to move only in in essence when that expense exceeds what's budgeted as we we'll come back and bring those amendments to you guys. But I don't want to say bring a quarterly, every quarterly and you hold me to that and then we don't have one. We don't have a need for one. [0:54:14, 0:54:16]: We're bringing we're bringing absolutely nothing to you at that point. [0:54:17, 0:54:21]: But when we need'em, you definitely are seeing because here's here's the big kicker. [0:54:21, 0:54:25]: In Georgia and in most local and state governments, unlike the feds. [0:54:26, 0:54:28]: We're required to have a balanced [0:54:28, 0:54:29]: budget. [0:54:29, 0:54:30]: At the end of the year. [0:54:31, 0:54:32]: Failure to do that. [0:54:32, 0:54:34]: is in violation of state law. [0:54:35, 0:54:52]: So that's when you usually see a last end of the year budget adjustment and the auditors come in, we move money around to balance the budget. We can usually do it within the budget. If you can't, that's when you go to fund balance and move money from fund balance and budget and balance the budget. But by law, you cannot exceed what you budget. [0:54:53, 0:54:56]: By law in Georgia and the communities are doing that those [0:54:57, 0:55:00]: They they got other financial issues going on and they can't do that. Um [0:55:00, 0:55:02]: But we're nowhere near there. [0:55:04, 0:55:07]: All right. Stand by please. Ms. Alexander, you have something, sir. [0:55:07, 0:55:10]: I wanted to go ahead and make a motion to move the meeting forward. [0:55:11, 0:55:28]: Okay, stand by a second. Americ Pro Tam, go ahead, please. Well, I just wanted to ask Mr. Aaron this question here. Uh he mentioned the job fair. What is the plan if you're able to hire those additional uh eight to ten uh workers? What is the plan for them? [0:55:30, 0:55:41]: Well, when when we bring those additional staff on board, there are some concerns and areas that we have. Right now you have 10 city employees that are responsible for maintaining. [0:55:41, 0:55:43]: approximately 90 miles a right away. [0:55:44, 0:55:45]: So out of that ten, you've got [0:55:46, 0:55:54]: Six more on four that pick up paper. And it's an insurmountable job for 10 people. So that department has been lacking it with. [0:55:54, 0:56:14]: uh substituted with temporary staffing in the past. When COVID happened, temporary employees were hard to find. So we moved and came before council last year and asked to hire part full-time employees. So when those employees come on board, there'll be more than enough for those employees to do. Because like I said, you get [0:56:14, 0:56:21]: got 10 people right now doing everything within their power to maintain 90 plus miles of right away of mowing and literally picking up. [0:56:22, 0:56:26]: And and it gets to be daunting tasks for those 10 individuals. [0:56:27, 0:56:30]: Well, I appreciate that, but I I just wanted to hear you say that. [0:56:30, 0:56:32]: that there was a plan. [0:56:32, 0:56:33]: You know, for that. [0:56:34, 0:56:47]: Yes, sir. We we sent the presentation that we're going to have the corridor teams that will be comprised of four to five employees and in that corridor. They'll be run responsible for right-of-moreing, litter pickup. [0:56:47, 0:56:56]: uh pothole patching sign maintenance, it'll be like everybody in that team does an essential public works function within that corridor that they're assigned to. [0:56:57, 0:57:03]: So how how many miles does uh CGL maintain out of those um ninety? [0:57:04, 0:57:06]: Well, we have a hundred and five total miles. [0:57:06, 0:57:13]: So the last breakdown when we looked at it, they're maintaining about 8.2 miles of a right away for the city. [0:57:14, 0:57:15]: All right, thank you, sir. [0:57:16, 0:57:18]: Uh Councilwoman Gantt please go ahead. [0:57:19, 0:57:25]: Thank you. I'm I'm just looking at this item on the agenda and I'm a little confused at why it's even here. [0:57:25, 0:57:42]: unless we're just making a motion to amend the contract because we're not amending a budget. We already voted for this already. We voted for the 300,000. And I'm ready to second councilman Alexander's motion to move forward. Um I'm trying to figure out [0:57:43, 0:57:46]: Is there a way in the future we can streamline this? [0:57:46, 0:57:58]: where maybe we just need to include the roads that we're amending to be kept up, the the right-of-way areas, just list those that we're adding because we've already approved the budget for it. [0:57:59, 0:57:59]: So [0:58:00, 0:58:00]: I mean [0:58:01, 0:58:06]: Again, I don't understand why I think we need to work on streamlining the way we handle this. [0:58:07, 0:58:09]: We but it's already in the budget. There's no amendment. [0:58:09, 0:58:11]: We need to do [0:58:12, 0:58:22]: All they're doing is expand, they're adding on the roads that are included on what we've already budgeted for. So I in that case, I make a motion to approve this item. [0:58:22, 0:58:31]: um the right away annual contract in the amount of three hundred thousand dollars. All right. Well I thought I was gonna give that to Mr. Alexander since you mentioned it earlier. I'll second it if he wants to do it. [0:58:32, 0:58:33]: Mr. Azan, please. [0:58:34, 0:58:38]: We'll make a motion as what Councilwoman Gantt has described to for approval. [0:58:39, 0:58:44]: All right. So if you're making that ms the gas second, okay. We have plenty of discussion. All in favor, motion, please indicate. [0:58:45, 0:58:48]: All right. Uh any opposed? [0:58:49, 0:58:55]: Okay, so it's four uh one. Okay. Mayor Mayor Pro Tem, you oppose the motion? [0:58:56, 0:59:12]: I actually I wanted to respond to Mrs. Gantt's concern, but I am in favor. But just let me say if I may, um go ahead, sir. I I think you have to allow the process for transparency uh to come forward because [0:59:12, 0:59:16]: If you even though you have budgeted, say three hundred. [0:59:16, 0:59:19]: And the current contract is say [0:59:19, 0:59:22]: Two seventy, two or I mean two hundred, whatever. [0:59:23, 0:59:28]: I I think you have to be transparent because if you don't, then you you leave room for [0:59:29, 0:59:30]: Um [0:59:30, 0:59:31]: They're [0:59:32, 0:59:50]: uh under the table deals and and all of that. So that's why, and even with the reporting that the uh city manager mentioned, you know, the the quarterly or what have you, you have to do those things because I'm not saying that we have anyone here on our staff that would do that, but we read in the paper every day. [0:59:51, 0:59:53]: Where you have these kind of deals. [0:59:53, 0:59:58]: That are going, even though you put it in the budget. But if it does not come before us or if it's not reported. [0:59:59, 1:00:14]: then you allow for theft and any other thing to happen. So that's why, and um Mr. Garden, you could correct me if I'm wrong, but that's why these things have to continue to come forward just to uh be transparent and and for it to be on the surface. [1:00:15, 1:00:21]: And uh Mayor, this is Jeremy. Uh Mayor Pro Tems right. The the amount that's budgeted. [1:00:21, 1:00:22]: It's just [1:00:22, 1:00:25]: You know, sort of a pot of funds that's set aside. [1:00:25, 1:00:30]: It's the contract and the the resolution that actually authorizes the money to be spent. [1:00:31, 1:00:38]: So you could allocate, you know, a million dollars for this in the budget, but it's the contract that actually authorizes the money to be spent. [1:00:39, 1:00:43]: And the the the previous contract was only for two hundred and ten thousand dollars. [1:00:44, 1:00:55]: And and it exceeds I think the authority under the city manager, which I think is twenty-five. So obviously that ninety thousand is additional. So that exceeds what I can do, even though it's within line with the budget. [1:00:56, 1:01:07]: But I think moving forward in the future, you're as we move forward, citizens will have a ho have a clear view of what we're spending as we institute some new technologies, like OpenGov. [1:01:09, 1:01:15]: A good deal. I look forward to signing that then if that's the case. Miss Holiday, I had a unanimous decision on that particular motion, okay? [1:01:18, 1:01:24]: I just want to let you know it was a unanimous decision. Okay, so m Mr. Thomas changed his vote. No, he you recorded it differently. [1:01:24, 1:01:33]: No, no, he voted for it. I voted in favor beginning. I I really just wanted that comment to get in. Okay. So your hand okay, thank you. Yeah, that's what I was gonna clarify. Okay, thank you very much. [1:01:34, 1:01:54]: Okay, next item. The Public Works Department is requested City Council's approval to increase the annual contract RFP 2020-0025 with the Intercontinental Commercial Services Incorporated for Janitorial Maintenance Services to an annual amount of$118,080. The increase includes the addition of the Public Works Admin Building. [1:01:54, 1:02:14]: And day porter services. Budgeted funds available in 2022. Budget amount of numbers 100-15650-52319. Facility cleaning public works admin and 100-15650-5223199. [1:02:14, 1:02:33]: Facility cleaning city hall. The FY 2021 contract amount with ICS was$89,280. Staffers requesting an increase of$28,000 to cover the day portal cleaning and a new public works building. Mr. Aaron, please. [1:02:34, 1:02:50]: Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. When staff was developing the public works and the government buildings budget, one of the things that was of concern was we were in the middle of COVID and there were some staff that were concerned about COVID cleaning at at the facility. So Mr. Knighton. [1:02:51, 1:02:56]: wanted to get additional uh day porter service to address the COVID cleaning issues. [1:02:56, 1:03:16]: And also the public works building was not online at that time. So as we got later in the year, the building began to take shape. There was actually a building that ICS could tour to give us a price on what it would cost to clean that building. So we're coming before Mayor and Council asking you to approve the amending of the contract to add. [1:03:16, 1:03:20]: at the addition of day porter and the cleaning of the public works building. [1:03:22, 1:03:24]: Also any comments, Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [1:03:27, 1:03:30]: Thank you, Mira. Mr. Aaron, so the [1:03:31, 1:03:35]: The old or I guess, yeah, the old public works building. [1:03:36, 1:03:37]: I'm sure they'll still be [1:03:38, 1:03:43]: some cleaning actions happening there, but probably not as much. [1:03:43, 1:03:45]: Um now that we have the new facility. [1:03:45, 1:03:48]: So what about the money? [1:03:48, 1:03:49]: That was [1:03:50, 1:03:54]: I guess use to clean this old public works building. [1:03:54, 1:03:59]: Um, I know that we are increasing this to include the new public works building. [1:04:00, 1:04:00]: But [1:04:02, 1:04:06]: What about the old one? Do they plan on continuing to clean that? [1:04:07, 1:04:13]: Yes, ma'am. Here's what happened. The Public Works Administrative staff was stationed at the wastewater treatment plant. [1:04:13, 1:04:33]: That building still have staff in there, the wastewater treatment operators, the wastewater collection operators, they're housed out of that building. So that building still has to be clean. You've got the general maintenance staff that crew out of the maintenance shop. That building still has to be clean because there are staff in there using the restroom and other uh parts of that building. [1:04:33, 1:04:40]: So we would just add an additional building because you took the administrative people out of the wastewater treatment. [1:04:40, 1:04:44]: Offices so we vacated spaces that we were [1:04:44, 1:04:51]: using that they allow the administration to use those spaces, but the building still has to be cleaned. It's still stamping those buildings. [1:04:52, 1:05:02]: Okay. And the same with this one. You're not asking us to increase the budget. You're just asking us to amend the scope of services for the existing contract to include. [1:05:02, 1:05:06]: an additional building, the new public work location. [1:05:07, 1:05:10]: Yes, ma'am. And the day porter. This was approved. [1:05:10, 1:05:15]: in the budget so we're just trying to get the contract to be congruent with the budget with the approved budget. [1:05:15, 1:05:16]: Thank you. [1:05:17, 1:05:20]: Else any other c uh comments or concerns? [1:05:21, 1:05:24]: And if not any emotion to accept this proposal. [1:05:27, 1:05:30]: Is there a move? Okay, Miss Kant, so moved. Is there a second? [1:05:32, 1:05:34]: Mr. Blount, second that any further discussion? [1:05:34, 1:05:36]: If not, all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:05:38, 1:05:40]: Okay, uh Miss Cap. [1:05:40, 1:05:41]: You [1:05:41, 1:05:42]: One more question. [1:05:43, 1:05:43]: Okay. [1:05:44, 1:05:50]: The motion actually pa I mean uh well I got four uh four affirmatives. Miss Barber, are you for the motion or not? [1:05:50, 1:05:54]: I have one more question, if I may, please, really quick. [1:05:55, 1:05:57]: When does this contract end? I'm sorry. [1:05:58, 1:06:00]: When is it up for renewal? Forgive me. [1:06:00, 1:06:03]: Well, the contract it was bidded out. [1:06:04, 1:06:10]: On October twenty-second, twenty twenty one. It closed on February the fourth, twenty twenty one. [1:06:11, 1:06:13]: And it was awarded on April twelfth, twenty twenty one. [1:06:14, 1:06:14]: And [1:06:14, 1:06:16]: uh that council meeting. [1:06:17, 1:06:21]: And it's a one year contract with the right for four one year renewals. [1:06:22, 1:06:25]: May I ask that you repeat that um dashes? [1:06:25, 1:06:32]: My document said the ICS janitor the janitory services were bidded out on October 22nd, 2020. [1:06:32, 1:06:40]: The bid closed on February the 4th, 2021. It was awarded on April 12th, 2021. [1:06:40, 1:06:46]: And resolution R twenty one dash twelve eighty two in the amount of eighty nine thousand two hundred and eighty dollars. [1:06:48, 1:06:51]: Okay. Is there a plans to rebid this at some point? [1:06:54, 1:07:04]: Well w what I uh uh mentioned earlier is that the end of the year, procurement sends us a notice. We evaluate every vendor if we're satisfied with the vendor because I [1:07:05, 1:07:19]: The RLP is written where you can renew it for four additional years if you choose. If they're not performing up to the services, then we we make make a recommendation that we would not like to continue with that vendor and then it goes back out for bid. [1:07:19, 1:07:22]: Okay, thank you. I'll upstay in Mail Pierre. [1:07:23, 1:07:28]: I um we'll do this once again. The motion is made in a second. So all in favor of motion, please indicate one more time. [1:07:29, 1:07:34]: All right. I've got four and she's abstained. So four zero one. The motion passed. Okay. Thank you. [1:07:36, 1:07:56]: Uh the Public Works Department is requesting City Council's approval to increase the annual contract RFP 2020-0026 with site engineering incorporated for on-call water and sewer emergency and operational repair, maintenance, maintenance and construction services to the annual amount of$255,000. [1:07:56, 1:07:56]: Yeah. [1:07:57, 1:08:14]: As approved in FY 2022 stormwater budget, this is a$50,000 increase over the FY 2021 budget. The account number is 510-42500-542515 stormwater repair. [1:08:15, 1:08:35]: Staff has noticed a substantial increase in the materials and related costs due to COVID and wanted to ensure significant funding was available for stormwater repair projects. Staff is also proposing to engage in more stormwater rep more stormwater repairs in FY 2022 to comply with the MS-4 permit. [1:08:35, 1:08:38]: And I imagine that this is you, Mr. Um. [1:08:39, 1:08:41]: Aaron, do explain, please. [1:08:41, 1:08:45]: Yes, Mr. Mayor. We're just trying to amend the contract so that is [1:08:45, 1:08:56]: compliant with what was budgeted. Last year we noticed, you know, we budgeted$200,000 for stormwater projects and we did two projects last year. [1:08:56, 1:09:07]: It was$190 something thousand dollars. The first major project was Hudson Bridge Drive. The road was in danger of washing out b because of a stormwater pipe under the road that had failed. [1:09:07, 1:09:14]: We did that project, it was$129,000. Then there was a stormwater issue on turning point. [1:09:14, 1:09:34]: uh with some ro houses and yards being flooded. So we did a stormwater project to correct that issue and concern. That was$73,000. So we did two projects and that was all we was able to do in 2021. And as we've noticed when we go to make purchase that goods and services are increasing steadily. [1:09:34, 1:09:36]: So we want to be [1:09:37, 1:09:45]: I guess proactive instead of reactive if we have some issues, we have some funding available to do those projects if something comes up. [1:09:46, 1:09:47]: Okay, thank you. [1:09:47, 1:09:50]: Mr. Blount, I saw your hand first, please. [1:09:50, 1:09:52]: Yeah, Mr. Dacious, this contract [1:09:53, 1:09:56]: is also one of those contracts that's that's renewable, is that correct? [1:09:57, 1:10:00]: Yes, sir. I think I think I read in there, I think it's five years. [1:10:01, 1:10:06]: Four or five years? A maximum. It could be a maximum of five years. Right. [1:10:06, 1:10:06]: No [1:10:08, 1:10:10]: Because of the wording on this for me. [1:10:11, 1:10:14]: Is that when I read it, their first renewal is [1:10:15, 1:10:18]: April twelfth, which I saw in the documents that we got. Is that correct? [1:10:19, 1:10:22]: It'll be April twelfth of this year of twenty twenty. [1:10:22, 1:10:32]: Then why would we do an increase two months before the instead of saying increase, why wouldn't we wait two months and have that to be the renewal amount? [1:10:32, 1:10:33]: For the contract. [1:10:35, 1:10:44]: Well, one of the reasons why is we're trying to get a purchase order and they will not issue the purchase order with without the approval of council. [1:10:44, 1:10:51]: approving this amount. So if they do any work without a we can't do any work without a purchase order. [1:10:51, 1:10:53]: So you're saying we have somebody now that [1:10:54, 1:10:56]: Is up for renewal in two months. [1:10:58, 1:11:02]: Uh I'm sorry, forgive me for the phone. The sub for renewal in two months. [1:11:02, 1:11:05]: And if we don't do this fifty thousand dollar increase. [1:11:06, 1:11:14]: That would then give them a renewal of fifty thousand dollars that they won't purchase what they've already contracted to do now. Is that what you're saying? [1:11:14, 1:11:18]: No, so what I'm saying is they don't currently have any projects right now that they're working on. [1:11:19, 1:11:22]: So we've come before council because we have budgeted [1:11:22, 1:11:24]: two hundred thousand dollars for on-call repairs. [1:11:25, 1:11:30]: So we're coming for a council to ask them to amend the contract that we currently have. [1:11:31, 1:11:35]: with site engineering to allow it to be congruent with [1:11:35, 1:11:55]: the$255,000 that was budgeted. If in April we decide we don't want to go in that direction, then whatever we issued that purchase order purchase order for, it ends right there. If they've done$10,000 worth of work and after April 12th we decide we're going to move forward and bid it again, then that's all they do is$10,000 worth of work. [1:11:56, 1:11:59]: Yeah, but but then you go I'm go back to my question again. [1:12:00, 1:12:03]: W if you saying they don't have anything going on right now. [1:12:04, 1:12:12]: And they're up for renewal April the twelfth. Why we were amended to put fifty thousand dollars down on when we can renew their contract in two months. [1:12:13, 1:12:18]: for$255,000 that was budgeted. I mean, I'm just trying to make sense of it. It makes [1:12:18, 1:12:23]: And because you're putting down the word increase, where in too much you can say renewal. [1:12:25, 1:12:31]: Well, why would we pay an increase now and in two months that could be the renewal contract? That's the incentive to any company. [1:12:32, 1:12:33]: An increase. [1:12:33, 1:12:37]: And renewal is an incentive of any company to stay with any entity. [1:12:37, 1:12:44]: But I'm trying to figure out why we're doing an increase now. And you just said they don't have any projects going on. Why would we do this now instead of waiting two months? [1:12:45, 1:12:53]: So we're coming before council to ask them to approve so we can issue a purchase order because if something happens between now [1:12:53, 1:12:56]: And April twelfth, then we don't have a vendor. [1:12:57, 1:13:09]: to take care of that emergency situation. Just like but hold on, Mr. Day, I'm sorry to cut y'all. But they're contracted with us until April 12th for renewal date. What do you mean we won't have a vendor? They're they're under contract with us. [1:13:10, 1:13:26]: But the funding was out of 2021 budget. You haven't issued anything for the 2022 budget. We're coming asking to issue a purchase order, a requisition for the access to funds that are available in the 2022 budget. [1:13:27, 1:13:31]: Yeah but we we but we approve but we approve the extra fifty thousand dollars. [1:13:32, 1:13:36]: For the twenty twenty two budget, which would be in place for a renewal. [1:13:36, 1:13:43]: in April and I'm trying to figure out I'm just trying I don't understand why we're doing an increase now. I'm just it don't make sense to me. That's all. [1:13:43, 1:13:44]: [4425.3, 4437.5]: We don't have a purchase order with them. So it's just like the previous one. We're coming, asking, saying, hey, this is the vendor that was approved, that was approved to April 12, 2022. [1:13:57, 1:14:17]: Right now, there is no money available if we found a project that needed to be done. There is no purchase order for that. There would be no purchase order for that project. We're asking if we issue the purchase order and they do two projects and then it comes April the 10th or April the 12th, Lindell's, Ms. Miller. [1:14:17, 1:14:32]: sends out that form and asks us, are we satisfied with site? And we say no, then that purchase order ends there. Then the remaining funds would go into a purchase order for the next vendor that's chosen to be the on-call. [1:14:33, 1:14:34]: Emergency repair. [1:14:34, 1:14:39]: I I I guess Mr. Dacious, I I I guess that ain't so it don't make sense to me. [1:14:39, 1:14:41]: And I'm still saying it don't make sense to me. [1:14:42, 1:14:45]: When anytime we're c'cause they're contracted till April. [1:14:46, 1:14:54]: So it just it don't it just don't make sense to I I it don't make sense to me to say increase when we can say renewal in two months. It just don't make sense to me. [1:14:54, 1:14:57]: All right, stand by please. Ms. G Bar Barber, you're next, please. [1:14:58, 1:15:03]: Yes, um, Mr. Aaron, we are two months into the year. [1:15:04, 1:15:07]: And you said that there is no work that has been done. [1:15:07, 1:15:14]: So I I too share the same concerns as Councilman Blount. That's why I called and spoke with you earlier. [1:15:15, 1:15:15]: Um [1:15:16, 1:15:23]: And this is another reason why I encourage for us to have those mid-year budget reviews or something. [1:15:24, 1:15:26]: um for a situation such as this. [1:15:27, 1:15:28]: Uh [1:15:28, 1:15:34]: If this contract ends in April, why are we increasing? Why are you asking us to increase? [1:15:35, 1:15:36]: The contract award amount. [1:15:37, 1:15:39]: when we've already budgeted for it. [1:15:40, 1:15:44]: That is the problem is, and I don't think [1:15:46, 1:15:47]: I don't think this is the [1:15:47, 1:15:52]: I don't think this is where you should be um asking questions in regards to increasing [1:15:53, 1:15:57]: the contract amount and the budget amount at this particular time. [1:15:58, 1:16:06]: Maybe I'm not explaining it correctly. Okay, be coming into the 2022 budget, we sat down with our stormwater staff. [1:16:06, 1:16:10]: And identify some projects that we want to do in twenty twenty two. [1:16:10, 1:16:15]: Okay, we said in 2021 we spent$190,000 on projects. [1:16:16, 1:16:36]: So we can't come back in 2022 and say, well, we're gonna spend the same amount, we're gonna budget the same amount,$200,000, when we know that prices are constantly going up. So in order to be proactive, when we identify those projects, let's budget$255,000 this year. Instead of doing just two projects, we might be [1:16:36, 1:16:37]: [4597.9, 4600.2]: But we'll have the funding available. [1:16:41, 1:16:49]: To use an event that there's a price increase. Concrete is going up and other materials and things. So we would have that funding available. [1:16:50, 1:16:58]: So we came, we come to council tonight to say, well, we budgeted$255,000 for this on-call maintenance. [1:16:59, 1:17:11]: And we want to have a purchase order issue so that if something comes up between now and April 12th, we got somebody that can repair or fix it if it's an emergency and if [1:17:11, 1:17:17]: If at April 12th we don't renew this vendor, we go back out the bid, then whatever we spent. [1:17:18, 1:17:21]: That's that's all we'll spend. If we didn't spend nothing. [1:17:21, 1:17:29]: We won't spend anything, but we'll have the funding available if there's an emergency that comes up that's beyond the equipment. [1:17:29, 1:17:40]: and resources that we have to repair it. We know that we have a vendor on call that we've got prices that we can verify and document. [1:17:41, 1:17:46]: Do you have a task order or a change order or work order in hand right now? [1:17:48, 1:17:55]: No man with this product, it's just like CG, there's no task order. We identify projects, the engineer or sketch it out. [1:17:55, 1:17:59]: and submit it to the vendor and he gives us a price on it. [1:17:59, 1:18:10]: And then if the price is acceptable, then we move forward with that project. If it sees the city manager's signing authority, just like the Hudson Bridge Drive, we brought that before council for approval. [1:18:10, 1:18:13]: Just like the turning point role, we brought that to council for. [1:18:14, 1:18:22]: So that's how the process works. We identify projects and engineers sketch a design that's submitted to the vendor so that he can pull the price on. [1:18:22, 1:18:31]: Right. So when you get to the point where you identify a project and you contact um this company and they give you a quote and [1:18:31, 1:18:35]: They issue a change order or task order or work order. [1:18:35, 1:18:37]: That is what you need to bring to us. [1:18:37, 1:18:38]: But currently [1:18:39, 1:18:41]: I don't believe it's necessary. [1:18:41, 1:18:43]: For you to come to us when you don't have [1:18:44, 1:18:46]: a project that's pending the approval. [1:18:47, 1:18:48]: Of council. [1:18:49, 1:18:56]: But without a purchase, without a purchase order, we can't come before council because there's no money to fund it. [1:18:56, 1:18:57]: Okay. [1:18:58, 1:19:04]: Uh Mayor Pro Tem Thomas, go ahead, please. Mayor Ford, I I like to move to deny. [1:19:04, 1:19:08]: and to uh rebeat uh immediately. [1:19:09, 1:19:10]: But all right. [1:19:11, 1:19:18]: Can I ask this question? It it would just be that last year. It closed on February the twelfth, twenty twenty-one. This project. [1:19:18, 1:19:19]: This be [1:19:20, 1:19:23]: was accepted on February. That was closing date. [1:19:24, 1:19:26]: For this for this RTB. [1:19:27, 1:19:36]: Well it it expires in April as you just indicated. So I I still move to deny and to uh rebid uh immediately for. [1:19:37, 1:19:55]: All right. I don't know if any uh uh Miss Barber you second that motion? Yes. Okay. Stand by uh one second. I'm coming to you, sir. Coming to you. Mr. Alexander, go ahead. I'm gonna come to Mr. I want to hear what Mr. Gardner has to say about the situation. What assistance take? All right, fine. Mr. Gardner, go ahead, please. [1:19:56, 1:19:57]: Uh thank you, Council. Um [1:19:59, 1:19:59]: Excuse me. [1:20:03, 1:20:03]: All right. [1:20:03, 1:20:04]: If we build [1:20:05, 1:20:05]: I mean [1:20:06, 1:20:09]: We just bid it out. I don't and obviously [1:20:10, 1:20:10]: Um [1:20:11, 1:20:14]: The Public Works Director can attest to whether or not over the last [1:20:16, 1:20:17]: Nine or ten months. [1:20:18, 1:20:21]: The this firm has been working with them. Have they been [1:20:22, 1:20:26]: Working um admirantly for the admirably for the county for the city. [1:20:26, 1:20:27]: Or not. I mean [1:20:28, 1:20:34]: That should be the determining factor as to whether we go back to bed as as we said in the previous contract. [1:20:34, 1:20:40]: Um, we do the evaluation and if the evalu if they do a good job when they're called upon. [1:20:41, 1:20:44]: Then that's fine. I'm I'm a little clear unclear. [1:20:44, 1:20:47]: Myself as it relates to um [1:20:49, 1:20:49]: You know. [1:20:50, 1:20:53]: We don't have any budget in the stormwater funds. [1:20:54, 1:20:54]: You know. [1:20:54, 1:21:00]: I I would ask that this be table rather than than than than ask for it to be denied and be [1:21:01, 1:21:02]: Rebid it. Um [1:21:03, 1:21:05]: Let me give some more information. [1:21:05, 1:21:08]: Um, because I need to know. I mean, usually [1:21:08, 1:21:09]: If we have a project. [1:21:10, 1:21:11]: That happens in an emergency. [1:21:12, 1:21:13]: Um [1:21:13, 1:21:15]: You spend the money to fix it. [1:21:16, 1:21:25]: And then come back to council in as an in an emergency capacity to pay for it because obviously you can't wait two weeks if you have a stormwater issue where it's flooding. [1:21:26, 1:21:37]: you know, somebody's house or somebody or street or an area, we can't wait. So you want to get the job done, job done now. In my previous experience, we call that an emergency procurement. [1:21:38, 1:21:46]: Stop, go spend the money, we bring it back and council ratifies it at the end because we know that the work has been done and whatever damage has been mitigated. [1:21:46, 1:21:49]: Because we're able to work on that ASAP. [1:21:49, 1:22:07]: versus having to wait a week or two or a week and a half before we get the council to get approval to then go spend the money. I mean whether that's a busted twenty two main pipe or a stormwater blowout where we have water moving where it shouldn't and it's impacting people's homes and livelihood or health safety and welfare. [1:22:07, 1:22:10]: Um at that point. So [1:22:10, 1:22:10]: You know. [1:22:11, 1:22:15]: I just need to clear up with with our public works director and our finance director what's budgeted. [1:22:16, 1:22:19]: Um and what's left, you know, we just started the fiscal year. [1:22:20, 1:22:27]: Um so I don't know we've had any jobs done between since I've been here in the month last month. I haven't heard of any new jobs. So [1:22:27, 1:22:28]: Let me get some clarity. [1:22:28, 1:22:30]: Because if we have money in the funds. [1:22:31, 1:22:35]: then let's spend the money if their projects need to get done. [1:22:35, 1:22:38]: And if by some chance we come to that level. [1:22:38, 1:22:47]: Before the April date. I mean, there should be an evaluation that should be conducted by the public works director. And I know he's, as he stated before, they do that. [1:22:47, 1:22:51]: And at that point, if we feel unsatisfactory about this contractor. [1:22:52, 1:22:57]: We put it out to bid or if there's a on call list, we go to the next one. But I don't want us in a situation where [1:22:58, 1:23:02]: We're left without a a potential on call company and something does happen. [1:23:02, 1:23:05]: That exceeds the capacity of staff, which happens. [1:23:05, 1:23:07]: Um, and that leaves us flat footed. [1:23:08, 1:23:19]: Um so from that standpoint, uh I would ask that we re-table and we get some clear information with Mr. Aaron and Mr. Wiggins. Um, and then if need be, we bring it back at the next meeting. [1:23:19, 1:23:30]: All right, so what I'm standing by stand by please. And as I understand, Miss Barber, you uh rescinded your second to that motion. Is that correct? Yes. Okay, thank you very much. All right. So [1:23:30, 1:23:32]: Mr. Alexander, go ahead, please. [1:23:32, 1:23:37]: Yeah, I do have a follow-up. There is a project that nest needs to be dealt with. [1:23:38, 1:23:41]: The stormwater situation in the amphitheater pool. [1:23:41, 1:23:46]: needs to be dealt with at the pond. So where where are we with that in terms of [1:23:47, 1:23:49]: uh having it uh be resolved. [1:23:49, 1:23:53]: And whether or not this fund will take care of it or [1:23:53, 1:23:55]: Whether what what's gonna happen with it? [1:23:56, 1:24:01]: Cause we have you know, we've been sitting there looking at a mud puddle for s eight months. [1:24:01, 1:24:04]: When is that beautiful when is that beautiful water? [1:24:05, 1:24:07]: fund going to return. [1:24:09, 1:24:11]: Anybody who can answer that question? Anyone? [1:24:12, 1:24:20]: Well, I I think I know breakfast on the line that we do have a meeting tomorrow to discuss the pond at the amphitheater. [1:24:20, 1:24:23]: So we'll have uh more information after that meeting. [1:24:24, 1:24:26]: with AJ Russell Land T S W. [1:24:27, 1:24:47]: Yeah, my point is I don't want us out there digging a mud puddle after the concert starts. We should have had this done already. And now we're at the point where, right, the first concert is April the first, and we're gonna have a dozer out there digging up the pond. Can we get that? Can we move it forward? We we should have had these discussions earlier. So can we set [1:24:47, 1:24:49]: Set a timetable to get that fixed. [1:24:49, 1:24:55]: uh tonight can we can we can we we need to have some clear cut direction on how to fix that. Thank you. [1:24:58, 1:25:05]: All right, um Mr. Garner, I guess you'll work with the staff on trying to get a clear cut uh definitive timeline on that. [1:25:05, 1:25:08]: Uh stand by please. Ms. Gantt, you had your hand raised some time ago. [1:25:08, 1:25:10]: Thank you, uh Mayor. [1:25:11, 1:25:31]: I just have a question, and this is what I mean by streamline. I agree, even with what Mayor was saying about making sure that we do our checks and balances. But in regards to this process, I think we're getting confused by the word increase, as in increasing our budget when we're really just a [1:25:31, 1:25:34]: Amending our contract to match what our budget is saying. [1:25:35, 1:25:38]: And uh my question is, is that absolutely necessary? [1:25:38, 1:25:41]: I think we used to do it per project. [1:25:42, 1:25:42]: So [1:25:43, 1:25:45]: I don't understand why [1:25:45, 1:25:53]: I really right now I'm a little confused. I don't know what council members understand what exactly we're trying to do here. [1:25:55, 1:26:08]: Where this new process comes in from. But usually when we have a project or something, we vote on it. Why can't you just spend the money if it's already in the budget? We have a contract, you wanna amend it to what's stated in 2022. [1:26:08, 1:26:11]: I don't know if that's to our benefit or or to theirs. [1:26:12, 1:26:28]: So let's say a contract is at a hundred thousand and we amended it to one, we're we're gonna change it because we budgeted for one fifty. It automatically renews the next year over. We have money in the budget in 2022 for 150. So when we have a project, don't we go and vote on them? [1:26:29, 1:26:31]: I'm confused at what we're doing right now. [1:26:33, 1:26:35]: Is anybody else understanding this? [1:26:36, 1:26:54]: Yes, ma'am. What we've done previously, like say last year we had$200,000 budgeted for stormwater project. When stormwater staff was out doing inspections, they found something that was deficient that needed to be repaired. They brought it to the attention of, well, Falcon Design has done a lot of stormwater for us. [1:26:54, 1:26:55]: They go out. [1:26:56, 1:27:02]: and look at the situation, then they come back with a design, what it would what it would take to repair that. [1:27:03, 1:27:05]: So it's like a a small set of plans. [1:27:06, 1:27:11]: So they go to that vendor, site engineer, and say, hey, this is a problem we've identified. [1:27:11, 1:27:31]: Give me a quote on repairing this. So when Site gives them a quote, they come back and say, Hey, well, we think it's it's a little too high. So they go back and negotiate with Site. When they're okay with the cost, then they bring it back to us. And if it exceeds the city manager's authority, even though we have$200,000. [1:27:31, 1:27:42]: Budgeted, we bring it before council for approval. Just like the Hudson Bridge Drive, that was part of that$200,000 last year. We brought it before council. It was$129,000. [1:27:42, 1:27:44]: Then when we identified the one. [1:27:44, 1:27:45]: On turning point. [1:27:46, 1:28:01]: After we went back and forth and finalized the design, it was$73,000. They gave us a price. We like, okay, we still got$75,000 left in that budget. We can do this project. So we came before council and asked for your approval. [1:28:01, 1:28:16]: To make that repair a turning point, you voted to approve it. So we spent 190,000 out of that 200,000. So we're like, well, we're done with projects for 2021. We don't have any more funding left. So now to be proactive in 2022, in case something comes up. [1:28:16, 1:28:23]: And with prices increasing, let's spend$255,000 this year in stormwater maintenance. [1:28:23, 1:28:25]: Just in case somebody [1:28:25, 1:28:45]: ordinary extraordinary happens like when we were doing uh the resurfacing and parks out a few years ago they were milling and a whole sinkhole opened up in the road that had to be repaired so Aaron I understand what you're saying by that but I'm asking so when that project comes up aren't you gonna bring it back to council if it exceeds the budget [1:28:45, 1:29:02]: amount you got to bring it back to us anyway for us to vote on whether or not we approve a particular project is that not correct any project that it sees the city manager and an authority why are we doing this is what I'm saying if you we gotta come if you when you have a project [1:29:02, 1:29:04]: You're gonna bring it to us. [1:29:05, 1:29:11]: And we're gonna vote on it if it exceeds the amount that's already budget. We already voted and approved the budget. [1:29:11, 1:29:16]: So if a project exceeds that amount that's authorized. [1:29:16, 1:29:28]: What exactly are we doing right now besides saying we're gonna amend our contracts or give notice to those providers that we increased our amount for them to give us higher quotes? [1:29:30, 1:29:35]: Cause I'm trying to figure out what's the benefit of this right now. The process doesn't make any sense to me. [1:29:36, 1:29:45]: I like thinking ahead, but if you have a project when you have it, then we vote on it. I'm trying to figure out what this part is. [1:29:47, 1:29:50]: See that budget amount keeps us from having a blank. [1:29:50, 1:30:05]: check it says you're going to be capped at$200,000. You will not exceed that. So we find projects that fit within the the funding. So it's like most of the projects are$15 or$20,000 projects. [1:30:06, 1:30:19]: But they all still come before council. But we just set a budget limit and said, this is what we're gonna spend, and we're not gonna spend anything above that unless it's some catastrophic event. Then we come before you and say, well, this is something we need to repair. [1:30:20, 1:30:25]: But it just gives us a starting point to do maintenance in our stormwater management system. [1:30:25, 1:30:31]: I understand that. But when you do your maintenance in that system, when when you find a project that you want to spend money on. [1:30:31, 1:30:36]: And it exceeds the city manager's um approval amount, what do you have to do? [1:30:37, 1:30:42]: I'll come before council and ask for your approval before we move forward with the project. All right. So that's all I'm saying. [1:30:43, 1:30:43]: Right. [1:30:43, 1:30:45]: Miraport Tim Thomas, go ahead, please. [1:30:47, 1:30:56]: Thank you. Um I I was just gonna reiterate w we we have we have uh on site until April. [1:30:57, 1:31:05]: There's money in the budget. There's no um tax order. There's no work order. So I'm sort of agreeing with um. [1:31:05, 1:31:07]: With Councilwoman Gantt. [1:31:07, 1:31:15]: But still, um for me though, I know my motion was the second was taken down. [1:31:16, 1:31:20]: And and and I don't know, Mr. Gardner's out my question to Mr. Aaron. [1:31:20, 1:31:21]: So [1:31:21, 1:31:26]: How much or Mr. Wiggins? So how much is in the budget now for on call? [1:31:29, 1:31:30]: Two hundred and fifty five thousand. [1:31:31, 1:31:35]: So again, that that that that sort of proved the point right there. [1:31:35, 1:31:36]: Um [1:31:37, 1:31:40]: W we have funds in the budget. There's no project. [1:31:41, 1:31:44]: And we have someone under contract until April. [1:31:46, 1:31:52]: So my motion is still on the table. I know the second were withdrawn, but my motion is still on the table. [1:31:52, 1:31:54]: All right, uh Mr. Blanc, go ahead, please. [1:31:55, 1:31:59]: Yeah, thank you, Mayor. H here here's here's the thing, everyone, is that [1:32:01, 1:32:02]: In April [1:32:02, 1:32:07]: Mr. Gardner just said and Mr. Dacius will be they would be working together to [1:32:07, 1:32:09]: I don't know the I don't know. [1:32:10, 1:32:12]: What's the the the uh um [1:32:13, 1:32:17]: Uh I I don't know the level of of of this company. I don't know. They only know that. [1:32:18, 1:32:20]: So if they're up for renewal in April [1:32:20, 1:32:26]: That's where we analyze this company and figure out if that's are we going to renew the contract. That's one portion on it. [1:32:27, 1:32:32]: But I agree with Mr. Gordon. We table this because if there's an emergency in the city that something happens. [1:32:33, 1:32:37]: they're gonna be able to do it anyway and then come to council because it's an emergency. [1:32:38, 1:32:50]: My biggest problem I still will say is that we're doing an increase two months prior to renewal. Why not do an increase in renewal one time where we don't have to touch this contract again? [1:32:50, 1:32:59]: This whole process right now makes no sense. So I agree with Mr. Garner and I would motion that we table this until they figure out what they're doing with this. [1:33:00, 1:33:11]: All right, the motion was made and seconded because Mr. Merit Pro Tem's motion uh second was taken away so it falls off the side. So motion been made and seconded. So there's no further discussion. All in favor of the motion to table, please indicate. [1:33:12, 1:33:13]: Mm. [1:33:13, 1:33:15]: Okay, there's a little confusion for the clerk. [1:33:16, 1:33:16]: Okay. [1:33:17, 1:33:25]: Because in May Pro Tem's last statement, he said that his even though there was a denial, he put his motion back out there. So that would need a second or [1:33:26, 1:33:29]: Well there is no second second. No one second that. [1:33:29, 1:33:31]: No one second, so it falls off the table. [1:33:33, 1:33:34]: This is no second. [1:33:35, 1:33:53]: Okay. I'll I'll note it that way that he put he put that back out there. There was no second received. Now we have a new motion. Right. Uh Mr. Blount second by Councilwoman Gang, correct? That's correct. No, no, count no. Stand by Miss Barber. Blount made the motion of I believe it was second by Councilman Alexander. [1:33:54, 1:33:54]: Right. [1:33:55, 1:33:57]: Oh Alexander, thank you. [1:33:59, 1:34:02]: Right, a motion to table this uh to table, correct. [1:34:02, 1:34:03]: Figure it out. [1:34:03, 1:34:06]: Right. All right. Miss Barber, you got something, ma'am? [1:34:06, 1:34:09]: No, I was just saying I don't think you called for a second. [1:34:10, 1:34:10]: Um [1:34:11, 1:34:13]: for Mayor Pro Tian Thomas's. [1:34:14, 1:34:33]: Well, I have to admit I didn't call for a second. But if if you if you had if you made a second second was Councilwoman Barber, you had second, you say you withdraw your second. Right. So that's that's why I didn't call for it again. He mentioned that, but I didn't call for it because you're the only one second, you withdrew it. And no one else has seconded it before. Right. Originally, yes, I withdrew my motion from his original. [1:34:34, 1:34:34]: Right. [1:34:34, 1:34:38]: motion but I don't think you asked for it again. That's okay. [1:34:38, 1:34:39]: We can move along. [1:34:39, 1:34:44]: I appreciate that. Thank you very much. Motion has been made has been seconded to writ table. So all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:34:46, 1:34:47]: Hi. [1:34:47, 1:34:49]: Okay, uh pose. [1:34:49, 1:34:52]: Pose. Okay. It's a state, Miss Barber. [1:34:53, 1:34:54]: Huh? [1:34:55, 1:34:56]: Would you vote, please? [1:34:57, 1:35:05]: I approved the table. The table. Okay. I'm sorry. Then it's four four four zero uh four one. Four one. Okay. Thank you. [1:35:07, 1:35:07]: Thank you. [1:35:10, 1:35:30]: Okay, the next item public works department is requesting city council's approval for the budget adjustment for annual landscaping services for government buildings in the amount of three hundred thousand dollars and amphitheater in the amount of seventy-five thousand dollars. The public works department is also requesting city council approval to increase the annual contract RFP zero to one. [1:35:30, 1:35:40]: 1-0004 with Yellowstone Landscaping LLC for the facility of landscape maintenance services to an annual amount of$375,000. [1:35:40, 1:36:00]: The FY 2021 contract amount was$300,000. The increase includes the addition of the amphitheater. The amount, excuse me, the account number is$100-15650-5-22219 landscaping and 565-610. [1:36:00, 1:36:09]: Dash five two two one nine landscaping. And I believe this is you once again, Mr. Aaron. [1:36:10, 1:36:22]: Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. I guess it'll be a combination of Mr. Wiggins and myself coming asking to amend the contract with Yellowstone so that we can include the amphitheater, I think. [1:36:23, 1:36:24]: Previously [1:36:24, 1:36:30]: Mr. Wiggins budgeted for the amphitheater. We budgeted seventy thousand, but it's actually seventy five thousand for the [1:36:30, 1:36:34]: For the maintenance the landscape maintenance for the amphitheater. [1:36:36, 1:36:37]: Okay, Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [1:36:39, 1:36:42]: Thank you, Mayor. Once again, uh [1:36:43, 1:36:46]: This one concerns me on a several levels, and I'm gonna tell you why. [1:36:47, 1:36:50]: This contract as I read through [1:36:50, 1:36:54]: On the document. This contract was first awarded for I think it was two hundred and fifty thousand. [1:36:56, 1:37:02]: Then there was an increased asked for for$50,000, which would have taken up to$300,000. [1:37:04, 1:37:10]: This is when we all went back and forth so much. Is it three hundred or is it four hundred? Is it three hundred or is it four hundred? [1:37:12, 1:37:16]: Even to a point where procurement was apologizing and saying [1:37:16, 1:37:17]: It's three hundred. [1:37:19, 1:37:22]: Now, when we did the increase of fifty thousand dollars. [1:37:23, 1:37:31]: Look back at the the look at back what we say the fifty thousand dollars for. The fifty thousand dollars was for the new public works building and the amphitheater. [1:37:33, 1:37:34]: So now we come back. [1:37:35, 1:37:37]: And ask for seventy five thousand dollars. [1:37:38, 1:37:41]: Twenty five thousand dollars shall of four hundred. [1:37:41, 1:37:44]: was probably what's what it what it probably was. [1:37:44, 1:37:46]: And we're saying it for the same thing. [1:37:47, 1:37:50]: the new public works building in the amphitheater. [1:37:51, 1:37:53]: So that's a total of a hundred. [1:37:53, 1:38:00]: And$25,000 for the new public works facility and the amphitheater. So why are we coming back for [1:38:01, 1:38:03]: Seventy five thousand dollars now. [1:38:03, 1:38:15]: When the argument was, was it 300,000 or was it 400,000? Now we're coming back saying we need$75,000 more when it's probably$100,000 because it was probably originally$400,000. [1:38:16, 1:38:22]: I don't understand why we're coming back for seventy-five thousand dollars on top of fifty thousand dollars for the same scope of [1:38:22, 1:38:23]: What they're gonna be doing. [1:38:25, 1:38:26]: Mr. Aaron, please. [1:38:26, 1:38:29]: When this was first issued. [1:38:29, 1:38:42]: It was it was late in the year and you were going toward the last quarter of the year and that was to include the amphitheater and the public works building for the remainder of the year. That's why it was$50,000. [1:38:42, 1:38:58]: But now we're talking a full year for the amphitheater, which is seventy-five thousand dollars for a full year. We was capturing a portion of 2021 for the Eric, let me let me let me stop you right there. The fifty thousand dollars was okay and put in two months ago. [1:38:59, 1:39:05]: Two months ago. So if fifty thousand dollars for two months and it's seventy-five thousand dollars for the year, that just don't add up. [1:39:07, 1:39:11]: That was two months ago. That was December the 13th when we had that last meeting. [1:39:11, 1:39:15]: Yes, you had this big debacle for fifty thousand dollars. [1:39:15, 1:39:18]: And now you're coming back now here two months later. [1:39:19, 1:39:27]: Saying we need$75,000 because there's a different scope for the whole year. So is that is that big that is it that big of a discount or what we're doing? [1:39:28, 1:39:40]: No, so like I said, that$50,000 on December 13th, you asked for approval because the work that they was doing was gonna exceed the initial purchase order because you were adding the amphitheater. [1:39:40, 1:39:41]: And [1:39:41, 1:39:43]: Public works building. [1:39:43, 1:39:52]: And so that covered that for those few months of that. That's why we came on December 13th asking. And Fodacious, I'm sorry to cut you off. Excuse me for cutting you off. [1:39:53, 1:39:59]: But if that was approved December the thirteenth, you only have two weeks left in December. We're in a new year. [1:40:00, 1:40:05]: So we just approved$50,000. Now we're coming back to approve$75,000. [1:40:06, 1:40:09]: I'm just trying to figure out when was the fifty thousand dollars gonna be used up. [1:40:10, 1:40:23]: Versus and now the seventy-five thousand dollars when this big debacle was, was the a tr contract three hundred thousand or was it four hundred thousand? And now we're almost back to the four hundred thousand, which we originally said. [1:40:23, 1:40:27]: Was it that when we had this big debacle on here? And nobody said anything. [1:40:28, 1:40:31]: That's that's why this portion concerns me. [1:40:32, 1:40:40]: Is that we have to come forward to staff and to uh uh uh our my colleagues here about actuals. [1:40:40, 1:40:50]: Because what you just said makes no sense to give somebody fifty thousand dollars for two weeks of work and now seventy-five thousand dollars for the year. It makes no sense, Mr. Aaron. [1:40:53, 1:40:57]: Okay, Ms. Aaron, do you have any additional comments before I go in further? Somebody else? [1:40:58, 1:40:59]: Okay. [1:40:59, 1:41:01]: Mayor Pro Tem, Thomas, go ahead, please. [1:41:02, 1:41:05]: Councilman Blount, I I I just want to thank you. [1:41:06, 1:41:10]: Th this has been my contention all the while, but let me let me go back to [1:41:10, 1:41:14]: September twenty eighth, twenty twenty one. [1:41:15, 1:41:21]: The public works facility was always in the scope of work. [1:41:21, 1:41:22]: Always [1:41:23, 1:41:26]: And you're correct about the the 50,000. [1:41:27, 1:41:32]: See, and and this is what I alluded to earlier when we start talking about contracts. [1:41:32, 1:41:35]: and how things need to come back to the council. [1:41:36, 1:41:39]: Because if you don't, then things happen. [1:41:40, 1:41:41]: Money's [1:41:41, 1:41:48]: or being awarded, contracts are being awarded without anyone even knowing. [1:41:49, 1:41:53]: And this this this example right here with Yellowstone. [1:41:53, 1:42:03]: is a true example. Now one council member tried to say that the work that they were doing, it has nothing to do with the quality of the work. [1:42:03, 1:42:11]: It's all about these contracts and it's and it's duplication. We are paying over and over, and let's not forget now. [1:42:12, 1:42:16]: Originally it was a hundred and fifty thousand. [1:42:17, 1:42:20]: But as I question and question and question. [1:42:20, 1:42:22]: And then only then. [1:42:23, 1:42:28]: Only then, after 15 minutes of questioning, only then it came back and say. [1:42:29, 1:42:30]: Uh it was a typo. [1:42:31, 1:42:51]: It would meant to be 50,000. See, I'm telling you, this is the problem right here. This is a true and a clear example of exactly what I've been saying. We are paying over and over and over for the same scope of work because, as Councilman Blank tried to indicate, that it appears that. [1:42:51, 1:43:11]: That they're trying to get back up to that 400,000 that originally they they tried to get. But we started at 200, we approved$250,000 in September of 2021 for the very same scope of work. And here we are in February again. [1:43:11, 1:43:22]: Trying to pay again for the same scope of work. It makes no sense at all. For the same scope of work, we have gone from 250. [1:43:22, 1:43:29]: September the 28th, now to February, up to 407,000 for the same scope of work. [1:43:29, 1:43:31]: So I I cannot [1:43:31, 1:43:34]: And I will not approve of this. I would not. [1:43:35, 1:43:35]: I would not. [1:43:36, 1:43:38]: All right. Ms. Barber. [1:43:38, 1:43:48]: Mayor stand by six. That was the question. Mr. Blount, stand by please. Ms. Barber. [1:43:50, 1:43:55]: Mr. Mr. Blount, stand by. Ms. Barber, please, go ahead. I'll get back to Mr. Blount. [1:43:55, 1:44:04]: Okay, I'm gonna make it quick, Councilman Blount. Um I just wanted to ask Mr. Aaron, who's maintaining the amphitheater, the landscaping for amphitheater right now? [1:44:04, 1:44:06]: Yellowstone maintains that landscape. [1:44:07, 1:44:08]: Okay. [1:44:09, 1:44:15]: All right. Um I'd like to motion that we table this and allow staff to [1:44:15, 1:44:16]: Um [1:44:16, 1:44:17]: Review. [1:44:17, 1:44:20]: uh this contract and all of the financials. [1:44:20, 1:44:21]: Behind it. [1:44:21, 1:44:24]: This is the third time this contract has come to the council. [1:44:25, 1:44:26]: within the past six months. [1:44:26, 1:44:31]: asking for an increase or a war something and I'm not feeling comfortable. That's all. [1:44:32, 1:44:32]: A second. [1:44:33, 1:44:35]: Ms. Ganseknet, Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [1:44:36, 1:44:36]: Well [1:44:37, 1:44:44]: To me and and Mr. Aaron, if if I'm putting you out there, then we'll tape it and we'll talk about it later. But [1:44:44, 1:44:48]: If I ask a question in public, I expect an answer because [1:44:48, 1:44:51]: The question that was put out there, the citizens want to know. [1:44:52, 1:44:56]: How do we increase a contract by fifty thousand dollars for two weeks of work? [1:44:57, 1:44:59]: And now we're gonna increase it once again. [1:45:00, 1:45:03]: Форт со семьі файтаза. [1:45:04, 1:45:06]: I'm just trying to figure out for the same scope of work. [1:45:08, 1:45:17]: And this$50,000 was only for two weeks left in the year. And we've already approved for the fiscal year. How is that increase going up to$75,000? I don't understand it. [1:45:19, 1:45:28]: I don't have to go back and look at the contract. I'll present in the data that was given to me because it's all the prices based on the number of visits per. [1:45:29, 1:45:48]: per week or to each facility. So there was a schedule for the growing season and there was a schedule for the non-growing season. So that I have to get a copy of the contract to see what those visits and costs were per visit during the growing season and during the non-growing season. But but I'll say this, Mr. Aaron, what we have to be careful and cautious of. [1:45:49, 1:45:55]: Is that we awarded fifty thousand dollars on a contract for two weeks until we went into our new year. [1:45:55, 1:45:56]: О, баджетин. [1:45:56, 1:45:58]: January the first. [1:45:59, 1:46:04]: Now we're coming two months into January the first asking for 75,000 in two weeks. [1:46:04, 1:46:16]: The$50,000 was supposed to be the expenditure. And this is where it gets convoluted for me. And we'll talk about it more uh um being at table, we can talk about it more to get a better understanding. [1:46:17, 1:46:19]: Mr. Gandhi, you have some additional comments? [1:46:19, 1:46:22]: Just a question. Um Mr. Wiggins. [1:46:22, 1:46:25]: Out of that fifty thousand dollars that was budgeted, how much was spent? [1:46:30, 1:46:32]: You said I I'm trying to [1:46:33, 1:46:37]: Search for the fifty thousand because we got what we have budgeted for the amphitheater. [1:46:38, 1:46:39]: is seventy thousand. [1:46:41, 1:46:46]: So out of the fifty thousand that was budgeted or seventy thousand that was budgeted for twenty twenty one. [1:46:46, 1:46:49]: And we just talked about this before. [1:46:49, 1:46:55]: Well, in December or whatever the dollar amount was, out of that amount, how much was spent? [1:46:57, 1:47:00]: I will have to go to and look look it up. I think um [1:47:04, 1:47:05]: I'm I'm thinking that the [1:47:06, 1:47:09]: We haven't transferred it out of the amphitheater yet. [1:47:10, 1:47:12]: So I need to I need to check and see um [1:47:12, 1:47:14]: How much that is. [1:47:15, 1:47:17]: So I have to probably uh I think we uh took it from [1:47:18, 1:47:19]: Because of um [1:47:19, 1:47:23]: The account wasn't registered with the bank yet. So my need to um [1:47:25, 1:47:27]: Take a look take a look at that. [1:47:28, 1:47:29]: I'll have that answer one uh [1:47:30, 1:47:30]: I can have it tomorrow. [1:47:31, 1:47:32]: Thank you. [1:47:32, 1:47:34]: Uh Memphis, you had another comment, sir? [1:47:36, 1:47:36]: Well [1:47:37, 1:47:41]: I I just wanted to say this. The question was asked [1:47:41, 1:47:45]: Um Mr. Alexander asked the question at the time, the frequency. [1:47:46, 1:47:48]: Mr. Mangrum was there. [1:47:48, 1:47:50]: And he indicated the frequency. [1:47:51, 1:47:52]: Um [1:47:52, 1:47:56]: You go back to the minutes, all of this is stated in the in the minutes. [1:47:56, 1:48:02]: Even the documents that was um provided to the council going back to September 28th. [1:48:03, 1:48:05]: All of this is just there. [1:48:05, 1:48:23]: And and I alleged these things and I don't know if at that time if anyone went back and and actually reviewed that, but I I just want to thank Councilman uh Blount for sort of seeing it. I mean, you know, uh I'm not saying he's agreeing with me, but I think he just he see what I see. [1:48:25, 1:48:31]: I yield, Mayor, but Okay, good deal. We motion is made and and seconded to table. So all in favor of motion, please indicate. [1:48:33, 1:48:42]: Okay, looks like a unanimous decision on it. Okay, great stuff. Okay, on that note, um, let's see here. You've got SKUs uh [1:48:43, 1:48:49]: If you hear a dog in the background, excuse me. I my dog was having a fit here. Uh okay, my comment. [1:48:50, 1:48:51]: I said, my dog was having a fit here. [1:48:52, 1:48:53]: Can you put them out? [1:48:53, 1:48:58]: Put'em out. No well, yeah, I could put'em out, but right now I'm gonna take care of you all here, right? [1:48:58, 1:49:01]: I got someone else doing that. Anyway, my comments. [1:49:01, 1:49:21]: Obviously, we're still living in a pandemic. COVID-19 and Omicron virus is still out there. Matter of fact, unfortunately, they're talking about there might be another way, but hopefully not. But but other than that, the the actual uh cases and deaths have gone down. Need to get lower, but they have gone down. We hope that doesn't price spike up anymore. So COVID-19 testing is still available at Red Hawk Field. [1:49:21, 1:49:41]: 143 Henry Parkway in Madonna, Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. Okay. And of course, you can go to public health department at 135 uh Henry Parkway, uh anywhere from 9 to 11:30 for walk-ins uh to get tested and to uh they get a vaccination or one to two thirty. And uh today. [1:49:41, 1:50:01]: Do that. You can do that to five days a week. And that's uh 470-661-0005. Now, we actually here in the city of Stoppridge, as you as you well know, we had uh testing a vaccination uh going on. And um understandingly, um, there's a notice now that's been canceled, and understanding these are my [1:50:01, 1:50:16]: comments, but I'd like to open up right now for Ms. Jordan Ori Kinewell to explain to the council and to the American to our citizens in reference to uh why uh the session has been postponed and what kind of plans you have in the future for this. If you can expound on that, please. [1:50:17, 1:50:37]: Um yes sir, I sure can. Um I we we uh evaluated the traffic that we got on the weekends that we were out um in February, the three the three days that we were in February. And it just didn't justify enough traffic to continue into March. We had about 16 people the first day. [1:50:37, 1:50:37]: Say [1:50:38, 1:50:50]: um 20 people the second day and only like six people the third day. So what we decided to do was um wait to see if there's a the need arises again and then we can implement it again at any time. [1:50:51, 1:50:54]: Okay. Thank you for that. Appreciate it. Okay. [1:50:55, 1:50:56]: Mr. Eisander? [1:50:56, 1:51:00]: I don't know how they were able to make that decision. I don't. [1:51:00, 1:51:09]: That's not a staff decision. This council decided that we wanted to have COVID testing available for the citizen. How does the staff just cancel it? [1:51:10, 1:51:12]: What if there's another wave? [1:51:12, 1:51:32]: We don't pay the problem is we're doing a terrible job of getting the word out. That's what the problem is. It's not that the folks are not we don't we're not getting the word out. We're not. Okay. Whatever we're doing is not working. People are getting covet testing and we've never had it in the center. All right, my unfortunate. Unfortunately, I opened this door. [1:51:32, 1:51:39]: Open this particular. 370 screen screens. There's been 255 views. [1:51:39, 1:51:59]: The staff would the staff's going to work out this issue and Mr. Gardner's going to uh work with this process as well. But I just want to get an update in the fact that right now there's postponed. But they they can read this, get this back up, and if need be, if we have a um another uh particular type of surge, and it we may very well have that. Um [1:51:59, 1:52:19]: I understand, sir. I got you. I heard what you said. I heard you said. Uh Kim, you sure you sure you want another comment, sir? Kim, before we go. I was just gonna comment that with the um at-home COVID testing that was readily available and shipped to people's homes upon request, and then the vaccines readily available at all pharmacy outlets. [1:52:19, 1:52:33]: outlets. That was one of the deciding factors as well. Plus, I monitored the county activity and they went from three sites for many hours during the day down to one site with limited hours as well. So that's the that's the way we decided. [1:52:34, 1:52:37]: W the decision uh factors that we used. [1:52:38, 1:52:40]: I just wanted to let you know there's more to it. All right. [1:52:40, 1:53:00]: More to follow on that. Uh for the particular type of announcements, upcoming events. Uh of course meetings are still being held uh by Zoom. And so uh look at the website in reference to those meeting updates and things of this nature. Uh new council meetings, 5:30 p.m. second Wednesday of each month, the Levi Meeting Room and City Hall, March 9th. [1:53:00, 1:53:16]: The Main Street Advisory Board meeting, second Friday of each month, 9 a.m. by way of Zoom, which is March 11th. Our next six and next city council meeting is the second Monday of each month, uh, March 14th. Downtown Development Authority meeting, 6 p.m. by way of Zoom on the third Tuesday of each month. [1:53:17, 1:53:37]: Once again, March 15th. You council advisory committee meetings. Uh uh could uh could um what it could you mute that please? Let's see, you council advisory committee meeting 6 30 p.m. Uh third Tuesday of each month in a Patrick Henry meeting room, city hall, March 15th, planning commission meeting 4 30. [1:53:37, 1:53:41]: Thursday at 6 30 p.m. by way of Zoom, February 24th. [1:53:41, 1:54:01]: Our next City Council work session is the last Tuesday of each month by way of Zoom, which is March 29th. And of course, there's four events as a continued salute to veterans, please uh four pictures of veterans, including name, branch, rank, and years of service. As uh Smith Tim Thomas presents a special tribute to local veterans. Pictures be submitted to ZP. [1:54:01, 1:54:21]: Pearson at CityStabrace dash G A.gov. And thank you for your service. Join Councilman Alexander for a virtual virtual community update, Town Hall, Thursday, February 24th, in a couple of days, 7 p.m. Town Hall will be broadcast live on the city's web uh Facebook page and join Mayor Pro Tem Thomas on the 11th 41th. [1:54:21, 1:54:41]: Annual African American Heritage Celebration Saturday, February 26, 4 p.m. Our program will be broadcast live on the city's Facebook page. And uh there's opportunity to meet the mayor. Me on the voice of your questions or concerns on Monday, February 28th, uh from 10 a.m. to 12 noon. Call Zenovia Pearson to schedule an appointment at 776. [1:54:41, 1:54:45]: Zero three eight nine seventy nine hundred extension to four eight. [1:54:46, 1:54:54]: And once again, join uh Castleman Alexander for the seventh annual Women's History Month celebration, Sunday, March 6th at 3 p.m. [1:54:54, 1:55:08]: And the program will broadcast live in the city's uh Facebook page. On that note, I do not know of any executive session issues and concerns that we have from the attorneys, and I would imagine not for anybody in the council. And if that is the case. [1:55:08, 1:55:16]: Um yes, uh yes, Mr. Thomas, Mayor Putin. I I just wanted to uh plug the uh African American Heritage Celebration. [1:55:17, 1:55:19]: Um there is a promo code. [1:55:20, 1:55:24]: for those that would love to get a commemorative t-shirt. [1:55:24, 1:55:31]: Um it it is listed out there, Mayor Pro Tem, Thomas, uh two. [1:55:32, 1:55:34]: Twenty six, twenty two. [1:55:35, 1:55:37]: To get you a commemorative [1:55:37, 1:55:39]: African American t shirt. [1:55:40, 1:55:41]: All righty. Good deal. [1:55:41, 1:55:45]: On that note, appreciate it. On that note, I need a motion to for adjournment. [1:55:46, 1:55:47]: So move. [1:55:47, 1:55:51]: Second. Miss uh Gantt second that all in favor, please indicate. [1:55:52, 1:55:56]: All right. Financy season. Good night, everybody. God bless you all. See you soon. [1:55:56, 1:55:58]: Solong. Thank you.

--- title: Downtown Development Authority date: 2022-02-15 source: 2022-02-15_Downtown_Development_Authority.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:00]: Yeah. [0:00:03, 0:00:16]: Uh good evening. This is uh Roger Custon and we are uh convening the uh Downtown Development Authority meeting on uh February 22nd. Um Bob, if you would please uh call roll. [0:00:17, 0:00:18]: Okay. Um [0:00:19, 0:00:23]: Can you ever hear Okay, there we go. Yeah. We hear you. Roger Custom. [0:00:24, 0:00:24]: Present. [0:00:25, 0:00:26]: Bob Swiger, President. [0:00:27, 0:00:28]: Barber Richardson. [0:00:29, 0:00:29]: That's it. [0:00:31, 0:00:32]: А сумій кокей. [0:00:33, 0:00:33]: Present. [0:00:34, 0:00:36]: Um Maxwell Sears. [0:00:38, 0:00:40]: Present. Uh present. [0:00:45, 0:00:47]: Uh that's that's everybody. [0:00:48, 0:00:52]: And uh Councilman Alexander. And Councilman Alexander, yeah. Present. [0:00:54, 0:01:14]: Thank you. That uh constitutes a quorum. So we will uh officially start the meeting at 6.04 p.m. Thank you, Bob. Um first item on the agenda is to approve today's agenda, and I'd like to make a request um to move items 3b and 3a to [0:01:14, 0:01:31]: follow the officer elections. So the sequence would be officer elections, then the request to approve the market study, and then the revolving loan fund from our guest speaker, Sheree Bennett. So I'd like to make that as a motion. [0:01:32, 0:01:32]: Second. [0:01:34, 0:01:35]: Thank you, Barber. [0:01:37, 0:01:38]: Any discussion? [0:01:40, 0:02:00]: All right, and by uh show of hands, um those who approve the changes to the agenda. I see it looks to be unanimous. Thank you. All right, and the next item on the agenda is to approve the November 16th meeting minutes. These were sent by [0:02:00, 0:02:10]: uh Vanessa on December the 9th. So I'll go ahead and make a motion to approve the uh November 16th meeting minutes. [0:02:13, 0:02:14]: Thank you, Sunequa. [0:02:17, 0:02:17]: Discussion. [0:02:20, 0:02:28]: All right, hearing none seeing us we'll go ahead and do a vote by hands. Those in favor of approving the November 16th meeting minutes, show of hands. [0:02:29, 0:02:49]: And I will abstain from this vote. I see that. Uh councilman, thank you. So councilman abstains, but I do have uh the other board members uh approve. Uh Vanessa, do you have the record? Very good. Thank you, everyone. All right, we will get into the uh main section of the meeting. [0:02:49, 0:03:09]: I really the the opening remarks is um uh you know I uh welcome Councilman Alexander to the board. We appreciate your leadership and uh serving as a liaison to the city council. Looking forward to um um a uh looking forward forward to the progress that we that you've outlined. [0:03:09, 0:03:29]: for us for uh for the DDA. So thank you for you know agreeing to serve. And and uh the next and I'll and and you know I I um what I and also for those of you you know my both my term and Bob's terms were um had expired and [0:03:29, 0:03:49]: And the city council approved to renew both of our terms. And I believe we were both sworn in uh yesterday. So we have re rejoined for uh for to continue serving on the DDA. So without further ado, I want to go ahead and go into the officer elections. So we need to appoint um a chair, vice chair. [0:03:49, 0:03:58]: Uh, treasurer and secretary. So I will start with the uh chair appointments. So I'd like to take any nominations for chair. [0:03:59, 0:04:00]: Not with a Roger. [0:04:01, 0:04:03]: Thank you. Right. [0:04:07, 0:04:14]: And is there a second? Oh, a second. Thank you, Samequa. All right, any discussion? [0:04:17, 0:04:26]: All right, we'll do this by um by show of hands as well. Those in favor of um asking me to serve as uh chair, raise your hand. [0:04:28, 0:04:30]: All right, and [0:04:31, 0:04:37]: So and I I see show of hands except for Maxwell. So is are you abstaining or is that uh an A? [0:04:40, 0:05:00]: Okay, so you're in favor. So that's that's a yes. Thank you. All right, honored to serve. Thank you. We'll move along. Um and uh for the position of vice chair, um, I'd like to go ahead and nominate uh Maxwell Sears if he's willing to serve um as vice chair. Um may have a second. Thank you, uh Barber. [0:05:00, 0:05:02]: Hold on a second. Any discussion? [0:05:05, 0:05:12]: Seeing none, we'll do a show of hands to uh approve uh Maxwell Sears as vice chair for the DDA. [0:05:13, 0:05:20]: All right, that looks to be unanimous. Thank you. And moving along. [0:05:20, 0:05:36]: Treasurer appointment. So if I may, I'd like to also uh nominate uh Barber Richardson as treasurer. She has done an excellent job with maintaining our records. So I'd love if he'd continue on that uh front. Um so I'll nominate Barber as treasurer. [0:05:37, 0:05:38]: Second. [0:05:39, 0:05:43]: I think that was Bob, so go ahead. Thank you, Bob. Uh all those any discussion? [0:05:45, 0:05:50]: All right, show of hands, those in favor of Barber serving as treasurer. [0:05:51, 0:06:00]: That looks to be unanimous. Thank you. And finally, secretary. Um, I'll go ahead and uh nominate uh Bob as Secretary. [0:06:00, 0:06:01]: Okay. [0:06:01, 0:06:05]: Thank you, Barber. Uh second. And uh any discussion? [0:06:07, 0:06:11]: All right, show of hands in favor of Bob Serving as Secretary. [0:06:12, 0:06:32]: And again, that looks to be unanimous. Thank you. All right. We've appointed our officer positions. That was uh uh that was uh rather efficient. Um all right, so with the revised agenda, the next item I'd like to ask for your vote and support on is for the approval for the market study. Um [0:06:32, 0:06:52]: Um, Mr. Peterson has done some excellent work in trying to get a market study for the downtown area. Um, just to give you a little bit of background, um, you might recall that this has been a discussion in this meeting previously. Um, about two years ago, the DDA did [0:06:52, 0:07:12]: Propose a did engage a firm to develop a master plan, not a market study, a master plan for the downtown area. This master plan required, as input, a market study. At the time that market study was going to be funded by the city, then 2020 happened. [0:07:12, 0:07:32]: Happened, everything was sort of suspended at that point. And we've been trying to get the master plan and the accompanying market study to be resumed. We restarted that effort back around the October timeframe. I will say that back then the market study. [0:07:32, 0:07:37]: It was quoted at$8,500 for the city to uh fund. [0:07:38, 0:07:58]: That same firm quoted uh the same market study two years later at$20,900, if I think I have that right. Um, because the city would be paying for this, um, that required a competitive bid. So that's where Allen came in and started reaching out to Georgia Tech and some other firms to see if they could. [0:07:58, 0:08:18]: Could provide a competitive bid for a market study. This firm, which is uh through Georgia Tech's uh innovation program, they have uh partnered with a program that uh actually allows for a federal grant. So the price that Georgia Tech is charging for this market. [0:08:18, 0:08:22]: market studies$16,000. [0:08:22, 0:08:42]: the portion that the that the that that would remain to be paid would be four thousand dollars the difference, which is much less than the original amount that we were looking at two years ago. Um so that's the that's the and and um and Alan has asked if the DDA could fund that out of uh out of our budget. So uh [0:08:42, 0:08:57]: I sent you the details of this in an email, I think yesterday or the day before. I welcome any questions that you might have on this, but I'd like to go ahead and make a motion that the DDA fund not to exceed$4,000 for a market study. [0:08:58, 0:09:07]: I have one question. I mean I'm gonna of course I support the DAP, but just for my clarity. So the market study has to be done in conjunction. [0:09:07, 0:09:12]: with the master plan or was it just a missing piece of the master plan that we still have to finish? [0:09:12, 0:09:18]: It serves as input for the master plan. Okay. Yeah. So so for the master plan to really [0:09:18, 0:09:31]: be viable, you know, can can we sustain a you know, I don't know, a certain amount of rent or a certain amount of um dollar per sales and so forth. That's that's going to be determined by what the market here will bear. [0:09:32, 0:09:36]: And that's gonna determine what type of development should go into the downtown area. [0:09:37, 0:09:37]: Okay. [0:09:38, 0:09:39]: Great question. [0:09:41, 0:09:42]: Any other questions on this? [0:09:44, 0:09:46]: Uh I like excuse me, sir. [0:09:48, 0:09:49]: Yes, of course, Councilman. [0:09:49, 0:09:52]: Yeah, I'd like to hear from Mr. Peterson on um [0:09:52, 0:09:55]: His thoughts and then um [0:09:55, 0:09:56]: His approach on this. [0:09:59, 0:10:02]: Yes, sir. Uh I think that um [0:10:02, 0:10:03]: You know, Georgia Tech. [0:10:04, 0:10:18]: Did a great job with this proposal. What we did was we sent them all the information that we had collected. So far, I sent them all the information that I had from Georgia Power, including the Placer information. For those that don't know Placer. [0:10:19, 0:10:32]: is a new database that Georgia Power has where they they calculate the foot traffic of a designated area. They did that for the Downtown Development Authority District. [0:10:32, 0:10:35]: Um sent in the RSBP plan. [0:10:35, 0:10:42]: Everything that we have, we've had extensive conversations with them. Everything that we need for this DD8 market study is in this proposal. [0:10:43, 0:10:55]: And um as Roger mentioned, uh it will only be four thousand dollars out of the DDA budget because of grants that they can pursue. So I think it's a great opportunity for the DDA. Uh certainly the price is right. [0:10:55, 0:10:58]: And it gets us back on track. [0:10:58, 0:11:01]: to where we were back in 2019. [0:11:01, 0:11:03]: Way before I got here. So [0:11:03, 0:11:12]: So so the what is the what is the time frame that we're looking at to once we move past and then we get to [0:11:12, 0:11:17]: The next stage, when will they begin? And then when are we looking at completion? [0:11:18, 0:11:21]: Right. Uh if you look on page four. [0:11:21, 0:11:22]: Over the proposal. [0:11:23, 0:11:26]: Um they can they can begin in March. [0:11:26, 0:11:33]: They can pre they can begin in March with the data collection and the final report will be completed in June. [0:11:33, 0:11:34]: Okay. [0:11:35, 0:11:40]: And um I I I would like to also say that for those that didn't attend, um [0:11:40, 0:11:50]: City Council voted to enter into a contract with Nucleworks for the CID feasibility study. And if if that study comes back favorably. [0:11:50, 0:11:53]: Um, we can look into putting the CID along 138. [0:11:54, 0:12:11]: And I know these areas don't touch, but you know, having that CID and then getting this market study uh with the DDA will put us in pr in in in position to really uh attract some some businesses. So this is if we decide to take this route, I think it'd be a good step. [0:12:11, 0:12:13]: and capitalized off the amphitheater. [0:12:14, 0:12:19]: Well, since since you mentioned mentioned it, tell'em what C I D means. [0:12:19, 0:12:22]: No, uh CID is a community improvement district. [0:12:22, 0:12:39]: where um businesses in that proposed district will self-tax themselves and they can use that tax to improve the infrastructure infrastructure, a pedestrian walkway, uh SA, you know, there are um a lot of possibilities that they can do with with those CID funds. [0:12:40, 0:12:47]: Absolutely. And yeah, and they just understand the gateway into downtown and the lead way is through highway one thirty eight. [0:12:48, 0:12:49]: And [0:12:49, 0:12:52]: leading to that. When you go to Cumberland or you go to [0:12:52, 0:12:57]: Sugarloaf or you go to those areas, those are community improvement districts. [0:12:57, 0:13:06]: where private contractors maintain those areas. That's why they're so beautiful. We got to do something about that gateway leading into the city. And that's what this does. Thank you. [0:13:06, 0:13:07]: Okay. [0:13:10, 0:13:17]: All right, any other questions or comments regarding the um request to approve the market study for$4,000? [0:13:21, 0:13:26]: All right, hearing none. I I made the motion. I don't know if anyone has seconded it. [0:13:27, 0:13:29]: Second. Oh, second. [0:13:30, 0:13:43]: Thank you. I think I heard Samaqua first. Um if there's no other discussion, we'll go ahead and uh bring it to vote. So everyone in favor of approving the market study for$4,000, uh please raise your hand to approve. [0:13:45, 0:13:51]: All right. Can't see the vote, Roger. I'm sorry, let me uh stop sharing so we can see that. Thank you. [0:13:52, 0:14:12]: All right, so it looks to be unanimous. Thank you everyone. I really appreciate your support and very excited about getting this um restarted because this this really is a first step in launching uh many important um uh um points that are really going to make some real differences in our downtown. [0:14:12, 0:14:24]: So with that, Sheree, thank you for um uh sitting through some of our housekeeping items, and uh we will turn the floor over to you to talk to us about the revolving loan program. [0:14:25, 0:14:28]: Okay, I was going to share a PowerPoint. [0:14:28, 0:14:29]: All right. [0:14:30, 0:14:32]: Do you need to allow me to share my screen? [0:14:33, 0:14:36]: I think you should be able to do it now. [0:14:38, 0:14:39]: Yes. [0:14:46, 0:14:46]: Mm. [0:14:47, 0:14:50]: Okay, can y'all see that? Yes. [0:14:51, 0:14:51]: Yes. [0:14:51, 0:15:00]: Okay. And if it's okay with you, I'm gonna keep it on this version. That way I can also see your faces if it's if it's um big enough for y'all to see. [0:15:01, 0:15:16]: And feel free to jump in and ask me questions as we go along. So part of my duties at the Department of Community Affairs, I have four different programs that I manage, but the Downtown Development Revolving Loan Fund Program is one of those. [0:15:16, 0:15:21]: We call it DDRLF for short, and that's probably what I'll call it throughout the presentation. [0:15:22, 0:15:27]: But um Alan asked me if I could um give y'all an overview of this program. [0:15:28, 0:15:28]: Um [0:15:29, 0:15:33]: And just tell you a little bit about it and how it might be used in downtown Stockbridge. [0:15:34, 0:15:45]: So what is it? It's a gap financing program and it's there to um, you know, if the DDA hears about a project that wants to come into the downtown. [0:15:46, 0:15:50]: A business that wants to come in, purchase a building and maybe renovate that building. [0:15:50, 0:15:59]: then and but the business can't seem to get full financing, this is where we could step in and fill that gap with a low interest loan. [0:16:00, 0:16:10]: So we say it's designed to help local governments revitalize and enhance their downtown areas. The loan does flow through the DDA. [0:16:11, 0:16:17]: then to the borrower, which would ultimately be the business. And the benefits are that we do offer a low interest rate. [0:16:18, 0:16:24]: Um, a subordinated debt position to the private bank financing, and we can also offer some technical assistance where needed. [0:16:26, 0:16:46]: It does have to be located within the core historic commercial area of your downtown, or if there are adjacent residential neighborhoods, those historic residential neighborhoods that are sometimes on the edges of downtowns that have been rezoned commercial. And now those homes now. [0:16:46, 0:16:53]: contain maybe doctor's office or a day spa or a salon or that kind of thing. We can also do those. [0:16:53, 0:16:58]: Um and it's for um cities with less than a hundred thousand in population. [0:16:59, 0:17:03]: Some of the projects that we funded in the past, law offices in downtown Noonan. [0:17:04, 0:17:06]: The Empire South clothing store in downtown Hartwell. [0:17:07, 0:17:10]: Scoops ice cream shop in downtown Meadow. [0:17:10, 0:17:15]: Um a co-working space in downtown Canton and the historic Ottawa Mill. [0:17:15, 0:17:18]: The Lift Fitness Studio in downtown Bainbridge. [0:17:19, 0:17:23]: Story on the Square Bookshop in downtown McDonough, y'all might be familiar with. [0:17:24, 0:17:26]: Fuzzy goat yarn shop in downtown Thomasville. [0:17:27, 0:17:41]: And then mixed use spaces that include retail maybe on the first floor and then apartments above in downtown Dublin and in downtown Statesboro. So those are the kinds of projects that we've been a part of in the past. [0:17:43, 0:17:49]: Typically, what uh types of activities that we would fund are land acquisition. [0:17:50, 0:17:51]: Building acquisition. [0:17:51, 0:17:52]: New construction. [0:17:53, 0:17:56]: renovation or combinations of the above. [0:17:56, 0:17:59]: probably ninety percent of the time. [0:17:59, 0:18:05]: We are funding historic building acquisition in a historic downtown. [0:18:06, 0:18:10]: and the renovation of that building. So the combination of those two. [0:18:11, 0:18:26]: We cannot fund things like these, working capital, operating expenses, the refinancing of permanent loans that are already in place, administrative cost, or to fund a local revolving fund. [0:18:27, 0:18:30]: Um, we have had folks come to us and say [0:18:30, 0:18:36]: Uh, I already have a loan for my business, but you're offering a lower interest rate. So we'd like to get the loan from you. [0:18:36, 0:18:39]: And as I said, that that wouldn't be something that's eligible. [0:18:40, 0:18:40]: Um [0:18:41, 0:18:58]: We're not here just to finance any and every business because we'd be out of money pretty quickly. We're just there to help make projects that wouldn't be able to happen normally happen by, as I said, closing that gap when the bank is not able to loan the project the full amount. [0:19:01, 0:19:16]: So our typical terms are 3%, but for Stockbridge, our interest rate would be 2% because y'all are a Main Street community. You're a classic Main Street community in good standing with the program. So y'all would be eligible to offer that 2%. [0:19:17, 0:19:17]: Interest rate. [0:19:18, 0:19:25]: Um, it's a 15-year term with a 15-year amortization. We don't charge any application fees or loan origination fees. [0:19:26, 0:19:34]: Um, and the application is made by the DDA. They are technically the applicant. Um, the [0:19:34, 0:19:41]: often we refer to as the business as the sub borrower because um at the loan closing [0:19:42, 0:19:48]: And DCA makes a simultaneous loan. It sort of just all happens at the same time. We make a loan to the DDA. [0:19:49, 0:19:54]: And then the DDA makes a loan to the business. And at that point, the DDA is out. [0:19:54, 0:20:08]: The DDA just serves as the conduit for those state funds because the state can't make a direct loan to the uh to a private business. So the DDA is the conduit through which these funds flow. [0:20:08, 0:20:18]: Um, and the repayments are made back to DCA. The DDA doesn't have to be um involved in dealing with the payments or anything like that. [0:20:20, 0:20:23]: The only thing that we ask is if we should have ever have any problem maybe with [0:20:24, 0:20:34]: um loan payments not being made, we might call like I might call Alan and say, hey, have you have you heard what's going on with the business at you know X address? [0:20:34, 0:20:43]: And he may say, oh, well, I know that they've had a death in the family or, you know, they've been sick or, you know, they're going out of business. And he would just let me know what's going on. [0:20:46, 0:20:57]: We um typically make loans around 200,000. Our maximum loan amount is 250,000, but the amount cannot exceed 40% of the total project costs. [0:20:57, 0:21:09]: We don't make loans less than 50,000. So that would mean 50,000 is 40% of 125,000. So total project cost of 125,000. We could do a$50,000 loan. [0:21:10, 0:21:11]: And [0:21:11, 0:21:13]: Um, our structure is typically [0:21:13, 0:21:22]: 50% bank financing, 40% coming from our gap financing, and then we do require that 10% owner equity in the project. [0:21:25, 0:21:33]: The applications have two parts. Uh, we call it an IPA, an initial project assessment is the pre-application. [0:21:34, 0:21:40]: And that's just to make sure that it appears that the project is eligible for the program. It looks like it's going to appear. [0:21:41, 0:21:54]: that it would meet our qualifications. And we can review those pretty quickly, turn that back around to you, and then invite the business and the DDA to submit a full application. [0:21:55, 0:22:00]: But what we're looking for, of course, is that gap in financing. Like I said, we will ask for things like bank commitment letters. [0:22:01, 0:22:21]: To show that there is that gap there. We want to see that the project fits in with the community's plans for downtown revitalization. So if you have a downtown master plan or strategic plan, or if it's in your comp plan, we we love it when applications point to those plans to show us that this is the type of project or business. [0:22:21, 0:22:24]: That specifically that um ya had wanted. [0:22:24, 0:22:31]: maybe it is in your plan you've talked about blight removal or you've talked about the desire to have um [0:22:31, 0:22:39]: Residential in your downtown. And so projects that would uh alleviate blight or add residential to your downtown. [0:22:39, 0:22:46]: We would want to see that those meet those plans and that you are fully supportive as the DDA of the project. [0:22:47, 0:23:01]: We want to see that the project is going to have a positive impact on the downtown, meaning that jobs are going to be created. Um, they're gonna it's gonna add foot traffic to the downtown, it's going to enhance the current vitality of the downtown. [0:23:01, 0:23:06]: that it would remove blight from the downtown if that's something that y'all are dealing with. [0:23:07, 0:23:09]: Um, we love to see those projects. [0:23:10, 0:23:13]: that um maybe in a two story building would [0:23:13, 0:23:17]: [1399.9, 1411.7]: And would have residential on the second floor and would maybe even r remove a blighted um building by renovating it. Um remove that blighted buildings from your tax roll. [0:23:32, 0:23:35]: We do need to see that the project is feasible and sound. So [0:23:36, 0:23:44]: We will ask um in full application, probably not the pre-app stage, but we will ask for things like a business plan or a marketing or feasibility study. [0:23:45, 0:23:48]: Look at the financial capacity of that sub borrower. [0:23:48, 0:23:49]: Um [0:23:49, 0:23:54]: Like I said, the bank commitment letter to see, you know, what other funding commitments have been made. [0:23:54, 0:23:58]: And um does the project meet the overall objectives of our program? [0:23:59, 0:24:09]: And of course that the borrower is credit worthy. We do have in-house underwriters at DCA and they will be looking at the the sub-borrowers financials. [0:24:11, 0:24:14]: The applications are accepted year round. [0:24:14, 0:24:18]: Um, you can find the applications on DCA's website. Um [0:24:18, 0:24:22]: And there is the IPA that pre application on there as well as [0:24:22, 0:24:29]: um the full application so you can see all the things that um we are looking for in those applications and um [0:24:29, 0:24:35]: Tracy Sanchez is the DCA regional rep for your area. [0:24:35, 0:24:43]: And so what we like to do is have the DCA regional rep come out. If you have a project in mind, the DDA sets up a meeting with Tracy. [0:24:43, 0:24:51]: And the potential sub-borrower A and Tracy can come down and answer questions about the program and do the site visit of the building that they're looking at. [0:24:53, 0:25:00]: If y'all don't have any questions, I was just going to go into some examples of projects that we've done in other parts of the state. [0:25:01, 0:25:03]: Well, do have a question. [0:25:03, 0:25:04]: Yes, sir. [0:25:05, 0:25:07]: So uh we're looking at the b uh [0:25:07, 0:25:10]: Looking at the buyer and the credit worthiness. [0:25:10, 0:25:12]: Is there like a minimum credit score or something that [0:25:13, 0:25:18]: you're looking for uh in terms of the the uh in you the uh applicant. [0:25:19, 0:25:19]: Um [0:25:20, 0:25:38]: Well, I can't say that for sure. I mean, our credit underwriters would could probably be very specific with you, but um what they're looking at is that, you know, if if the borrower himself is not perfectly credit worthy, then he would need to have somebody come along and be the guarantor on the project. [0:25:38, 0:25:49]: or um you know have collateral. Um I mean we definitely would take the the building as collateral if if the borrower is looking to acquire the building. [0:25:49, 0:25:55]: Um, but we would come in in a second lean position to the bank financing on that. [0:25:55, 0:25:57]: All right, okay, thank you. [0:25:57, 0:26:00]: Um what was the name of our regional contact? [0:26:01, 0:26:05]: Tracy Sanchez. Tracy Sanchez. Thank you. Alan has her. [0:26:05, 0:26:06]: contact info. [0:26:07, 0:26:08]: Lisa, I see your hand is up. [0:26:09, 0:26:11]: Hi, um hi everyone. [0:26:12, 0:26:13]: Oh um [0:26:13, 0:26:23]: So Sheree, it's been a long time since I uh was briefed on DDRLF, but I I guess my question was something in the back of my mind. [0:26:23, 0:26:30]: If the borrower defaults on the loan, is the DDA in some way responsible for it? [0:26:30, 0:26:38]: No, um it is a non-recourse loan to the DDA. The DDA would not we would not come after the DDA for the payment. [0:26:38, 0:26:47]: Um, that's why we require the collateral or we require that guarantor and that that was that's why we have that this we would obtain the second lien on the building. [0:26:47, 0:26:52]: So that if there were a default, those are the item would be the items that we would go after. [0:26:52, 0:26:53]: To get repayment. [0:26:54, 0:27:00]: And you're in second position behind the bank, correct? That's right. Okay, good. Thank you. [0:27:01, 0:27:02]: Kira has a question. [0:27:02, 0:27:04]: Looks like you have a hand up, Kira. [0:27:05, 0:27:15]: Um yes, I wanted to um ask Cherie if there was ever a situation or projects that you all have funded where the DDA was actually [0:27:15, 0:27:18]: doing the development work. They didn't necessarily have [0:27:18, 0:27:23]: um a private partner. They wanted to do the development themselves. [0:27:24, 0:27:29]: Um yes, we have had that um happen in the past. It's not happened [0:27:30, 0:27:34]: I don't think it's happened in the in quite a few years, but [0:27:35, 0:27:46]: In the past, there have been projects where the DDA um has asked for our help, particularly with blight very blighted buildings that um [0:27:46, 0:27:52]: They were in such bad shape, but they were historic um landmark buildings that did. [0:27:52, 0:27:57]: you know, have a place in the history of the community and really did need to be preserved. [0:27:57, 0:28:08]: Um, but nobody was willing to step forward. And so the the DDA did step forward um to do those um with a lot of help, with a lot of grants and and our loan. [0:28:09, 0:28:17]: Um, and then a very solid business plan at the end of you know what they were going to use the the building for. [0:28:17, 0:28:23]: Um, so that they knew that they were going to have a revenue stream. You know, if they were gonna rent it out as an event facility, they were [0:28:24, 0:28:29]: they were going to have a revenue stream coming in that they could um repay the the loan with. [0:28:30, 0:28:30]: Um [0:28:31, 0:28:36]: that has like I said, that hasn't happened really probably since I've had this job. [0:28:37, 0:28:39]: And I've had this job for [0:28:40, 0:28:42]: Oh yeah, that's [0:28:42, 0:28:43]: Sixteen, I think. [0:28:44, 0:28:51]: Um, but I know before I was here, I remember projects being talked about. And I can certainly get examples of those if you're interested. [0:28:55, 0:28:56]: Thank you. [0:28:58, 0:29:02]: Other questions? Yeah, I just have one last question. Will we be able to um [0:29:03, 0:29:08]: have access to your slides um at the end of the presentation because I was [0:29:08, 0:29:20]: Taking notes feverishly. Yes. Oh yeah. Uh-huh. I can um I can send um You can send them to you want me to send them to you? Okay. Yes, I can send them to you, Roger. [0:29:21, 0:29:30]: And and I have a kind of a follow-up question. So it seems like the the funding actually comes from DCA. Is that right? It does. [0:29:32, 0:29:33]: Right. [0:29:36, 0:29:40]: Yes, we got um we got money years and years ago, um back in [0:29:40, 0:29:41]: Two thousand eight. [0:29:42, 0:29:49]: Um, and we're able we've just been able to it. That's why we call it the revolving loan fund. We've literally been able to revolve that money. [0:29:50, 0:29:52]: over these years, um, because we haven't had [0:29:53, 0:30:01]: um any money given to us from the legislature for for many, many years. But as we make loans, people repay them and then we're able to [0:30:01, 0:30:05]: um revolve the money and give it to new projects. [0:30:05, 0:30:20]: I have one last question. Yes. So there's no um revenue opportunity in this process for the local DDAs. It was just like the conduit to facilitate the lunch the loan between the DCA and the borrower. Mm-hmm. Okay. [0:30:20, 0:30:27]: Yes. You're just serving um serving in that capacity to help projects happen in your downtown that you want to see happen. [0:30:28, 0:30:28]: Okay. [0:30:30, 0:30:36]: One one quick question. Uh if there's a conflict between the DDA and the DAC, how is that resolved? [0:30:37, 0:30:41]: Like if you uh we disagree that this person should get the loan. [0:30:41, 0:30:45]: And you all might want that person to get the loan. How's that conflict resolved? [0:30:46, 0:30:56]: Um, you mean if the DDA really wants to see the project happen, but at DCA our credit underwriter say says that the borrower is not credit worthy. So deny. [0:30:57, 0:31:00]: Well, it's our money, so we can say no. [0:31:01, 0:31:02]: Well I've been [0:31:02, 0:31:16]: Yeah, so ultimately the decision is ours, but we definitely would would not want to participate in a project that you guys, you know, you as the locals would know more information about the project. So if it wasn't something that y'all supported to happen, we would want to know that. [0:31:17, 0:31:18]: Thank you. [0:31:19, 0:31:23]: Sheree, is there any type of business or project that does not qualify? [0:31:27, 0:31:30]: Mm, we haven't done we won't do a strip club. [0:31:36, 0:31:45]: I mean, we, you know, I guess it could be allowed by your zoning, but we I don't think we would state funds would want to participate in that type of project. [0:31:45, 0:31:48]: So a strip mall is good, but not a strip club. [0:31:48, 0:31:51]: That's yeah. Yeah. [0:31:52, 0:31:52]: Yeah. [0:31:55, 0:32:01]: Well, I'll just tell you about a couple of projects that we have participated in. Um, y'all may be familiar with this project over in Covington. [0:32:02, 0:32:07]: If y'all were fans of the Vampire Diaries television show, I never watched it, but [0:32:08, 0:32:10]: Um apparently it was very popular. It went on for [0:32:11, 0:32:13]: Like six or seven seasons. [0:32:13, 0:32:14]: But [0:32:15, 0:32:24]: This particular building in downtown Covington served as um the facade of the Mystic Grill in that television show. [0:32:24, 0:32:25]: Um [0:32:25, 0:32:29]: There had been a fire in the building. Um, it had sat vacant or or [0:32:30, 0:32:34]: mostly vacant for many, many years. And the mayor and his wife and another couple [0:32:35, 0:32:45]: decided that it was time to capitalize on the popularity of the Vampire Diaries television show. And I don't know if you've been over there because I was over there recently and then there are still people [0:32:45, 0:32:50]: you know, walking around and taking the vampire tours and that kind of thing, even though the the [0:32:51, 0:32:52]: The television show is is no longer. [0:32:53, 0:32:53]: Um [0:32:54, 0:32:55]: being filmed. [0:32:55, 0:33:01]: But um they decided to make a restaurant out of this um building. [0:33:02, 0:33:16]: And um I'll show you an interior photograph. So this is what it looks like now. Um they made the bar as uh a replica of the one that's in the television show. And they even made this really beautiful rooftop bar that overlooks the downtown courthouse square. [0:33:16, 0:33:26]: Um, so it's a really great project. Here's how we came in. The total project cost was one point almost, yeah, almost one point eight million. [0:33:27, 0:33:27]: Um [0:33:28, 0:33:31]: For uh acquisition and renovations um [0:33:32, 0:33:37]: We came in at 250,000, which you remember that's the max that we can come in at. [0:33:38, 0:33:41]: Oftentimes when projects are really big like this one. [0:33:41, 0:33:47]: Our sister agency at uh GCF, which stands for the Georgia Cities Foundation. [0:33:47, 0:33:52]: Um, they came in with another 250,000. Um [0:33:52, 0:33:54]: I believe they're max. [0:33:54, 0:34:08]: uh it had dropped down to 200. It might be back up to 250 right now. But GCF uses our underwriters on their projects. So it's it makes it um pretty easy for us to do projects together. Again, if they're large enough. [0:34:08, 0:34:13]: Um, you know, if the the total project costs are large enough for us to both participate. So in this sense, it's they did. [0:34:14, 0:34:17]: Um four hundred and fifty thousand in um [0:34:19, 0:34:27]: Equity from the owners to make this project happen. In addition to the restaurant, there's also in the basement there is a um [0:34:28, 0:34:39]: A gift shop called The Alley, which uh sells vampire diaries merchandise and has props from the movie and that kind of thing. So another uh revenue source in the basement. [0:34:40, 0:34:40]: Um [0:34:40, 0:34:50]: Very popular location. If you're over on the square, you'll see people lined up to go in. And this also helped create about 40 jobs in downtown Covington. [0:34:51, 0:35:03]: It also, um, they have often said that it it really was the catalyst for the creation of lots of other restaurants on the downtown square. So it was really a positive project for downtown Covington. [0:35:03, 0:35:14]: And I didn't realize I threw this other um project in, which is also in Covington. Um this is the city pharmacy right across the street uh from Mystic Grill in downtown. [0:35:14, 0:35:16]: They came in, um [0:35:17, 0:35:27]: This is an older picture of what the building looked like on the corner. It had been a pharmacy for many, many years. Um, as you can tell, I think since like at least like the 1920s. [0:35:27, 0:35:31]: Here's what it looks like today. It's it's a restaurant. [0:35:32, 0:35:35]: Here's what the interior looked like before renovations. [0:35:35, 0:35:38]: And now an interior shot after renovations. [0:35:38, 0:35:43]: We came in um also with GCF on this one and partnered with them with two hundred and fifty. [0:35:43, 0:36:02]: thousand a piece. Um so 1.6 million. But oftentimes our our projects are nowhere near this amount. You know, they're much lower. And we're just coming in to fill the gap and doing 40% of total project costs. But just wanted to show you those two projects which are in downtown and have made a difference um [0:36:02, 0:36:03]: With removing [0:36:04, 0:36:08]: fairly blighted buildings um from the downtown area. [0:36:09, 0:36:16]: And uh putting in a lot of foot traffic and reasons for folks to be down there and helping to revitalize and add economic. [0:36:16, 0:36:18]: uh development in the downtown. [0:36:20, 0:36:23]: And this is my contact information if y'all need me. [0:36:25, 0:36:25]: And [0:36:26, 0:36:29]: And did I spur any other questions? [0:36:30, 0:36:32]: I have one. Um [0:36:32, 0:36:52]: Is there, you know, you indicated this is a gap financing um you know tool. Um is there um kind of an ideal proportion that um DCA looks for as far as filling in the gap? Are they looking for the bank to finance fifty percent or eighty percent? Typically [0:36:52, 0:37:00]: You know, typically that's what happens is that the bank is is willing to come in at about 50%. [0:37:00, 0:37:06]: And then we come in at 40%. That's just the the typical structure of our loans, 50, 40, 10. [0:37:07, 0:37:14]: And another thing to keep in mind, because this has come up a lot recently where people needed money. [0:37:14, 0:37:16]: right then to make a project happen. [0:37:17, 0:37:18]: So just so you know. [0:37:19, 0:37:20]: The DDRLF loan. [0:37:21, 0:37:25]: Does not close until the project is complete. [0:37:26, 0:37:26]: So [0:37:27, 0:37:33]: That might um hinder some folks that need money for the project on the front end. [0:37:33, 0:37:40]: We don't come in until the project is complete, meaning renovation work is complete and our certificate of occupancy has been issued. [0:37:41, 0:37:41]: Um [0:37:42, 0:37:50]: And people say, well, that doesn't help me. I needed the money on the front end. But what normally happens is the bank agrees to loan 50%. [0:37:52, 0:38:03]: The applicant then is looking for other money, comes to us, applies, goes through the process and we say, yes, we're willing to loan you 40%. And they take that award letter back to the bank. [0:38:03, 0:38:06]: The bank is then willing to give them the [0:38:06, 0:38:13]: a um construction loan or interim financing to get them through to the end of the project. [0:38:13, 0:38:26]: And then once the certificate of occupancy has been issued, we can close. And then that money is then used to pay down that bank financing, that interim financing that the bank gave them. [0:38:29, 0:38:42]: So the 5040 10, 50% would be the bank, 40% would be the DDRLF, and 10% would be the down payment from the from the the owner equity in the project, yeah. Okay. [0:38:44, 0:38:45]: Nice. [0:38:51, 0:39:11]: Okay, question. Go ahead, sir. Yeah, so uh this program obviously uh it's is is a key in uh closing the gap because a lot of times buyers find themselves owners in this position. So um as you say, the funding is available, it's revolving. So uh at this point, I guess. [0:39:11, 0:39:11]: Yeah. [0:39:11, 0:39:19]: Uh so the fund goes up to what what was the what was the dollar amount of total available funds or or at any one point at this time? [0:39:20, 0:39:22]: What do we have right now? [0:39:23, 0:39:26]: Um the last time I looked it was around four million. [0:39:26, 0:39:27]: Okay. [0:39:28, 0:39:32]: And then for each one of these loans, so if this DDA took out [0:39:32, 0:39:52]: Let's say we had one applicant for 250,000, then another applicant wanted another loan for 250,000, just as long as there's separate applications. That's that wasn't is there a limit for us on how many applicants that we could have at once? Um there is a limit, but um I don't, you know, I don't when I looked back, I did not [0:39:52, 0:40:01]: see another loan for Stockbridge. So you got a ways to go to reach our limit. We it it could only be 10% of our loan portfolio. [0:40:02, 0:40:04]: So you've got a ways to go. [0:40:05, 0:40:06]: Much a [0:40:08, 0:40:16]: Okay, and now you mentioned that this program is the Gap program. Are there any other programs that we should know about? [0:40:16, 0:40:17]: Uh in addition to this one. [0:40:18, 0:40:24]: Uh any other type of financing programs that we should know about or is this pretty much what you are offering at this point? [0:40:25, 0:40:26]: Hmm. [0:40:27, 0:40:28]: Well, um [0:40:29, 0:40:36]: I I have other programs. Um Alan and I have talked about the Opportunity Zone program, and we don't think that's a good fit for y'all. [0:40:36, 0:40:37]: Um [0:40:38, 0:40:39]: What's your population? [0:40:40, 0:40:51]: Uh right right right twenty-nine thousand now. I've I've been off obviously I was interested in getting us an opportunity zone stat uh status for obvious reasons for [0:40:51, 0:41:09]: attraction to those businesses. You know, around us, Jonesboro has that status. Some reason we did not file when uh that blanket uh authorization occurred. So I certainly would be interested in providing that for business owners with a thirty four hundred dollar tax credit. That certainly would help our [0:41:10, 0:41:14]: uh, you know, in our toolbox. We're t looking for everything that we could possibly [0:41:14, 0:41:29]: garner in our toolbox. Is it a possibility at this point? Well, y'all um y'all actually, you know, have a good problem where you don't have a ton of blight. And so that's what we were talking about. You know, we really need a higher concentration of blight to move forward with the state OZ program. Um [0:41:29, 0:41:43]: And you know, in looking, y'all just don't don't have that, which is a good thing you don't have tons of blight. Um, I was also thinking about the rural zone program, but that's for communities under 15,000. So that wouldn't work. Um [0:41:45, 0:41:58]: Well, we certainly have a lot of blight along North Henry Boulevard and in this in this downtown area. So I don't know. Is anybody have you uh is is it possible to have a ride through to kind of take a look and see what we have? [0:41:59, 0:42:05]: Just to kinda because there certainly is a lot of blight along North Henry and the central downtown area, you know. [0:42:06, 0:42:11]: Yeah, um I mean I could certainly come out and make a ride through. I think Tracy made the ride through. [0:42:11, 0:42:26]: Yeah, we we had a we had a ride through. I had a ride through with Tracy and Tracy took um a lot of pictures and uh what what she expressed was that there's a difference between blight and something being undeveloped. [0:42:27, 0:42:38]: Correct, correct. So so for the opportunities on program, just so you know, you have to have at least 15% or greater poverty in the census block groups, which I think y'all had. [0:42:38, 0:42:42]: Um we do visual blight. [0:42:42, 0:42:52]: Um, meaning that property owners are not properly maintaining their buildings. We don't look at green space. So we're just looking at at the buildings. [0:42:53, 0:42:56]: Um, if if the building looks blighted because there's [0:42:57, 0:42:57]: You know [0:42:57, 0:43:00]: fifteen signs on it. [0:43:00, 0:43:01]: Um [0:43:01, 0:43:12]: You know, that instead is one of your problems because if you don't have a sign ordinance, y'all need to set up a sign ordinance and make sure that it's being properly enforced. [0:43:12, 0:43:21]: But but blight, what I'm looking for when I'm talking about blight is not just you know a bunch of signs on a building and more than just maybe a couple of pieces of chipping paint. [0:43:22, 0:43:25]: I'm looking at a deteriorated building and a uh [0:43:26, 0:43:34]: And properties not being properly maintained. We certainly have all of that, and I certainly will like a second assessment. [0:43:34, 0:43:50]: on whether or not we qualify because we have poverty. We have really we have a really uh that area is really impoverished, especially around Floyd Chapel Baptist Church. In that area, it certainly qualifies under that 15%. So I certainly would like a reassessment. [0:43:50, 0:44:03]: And then the other the other two criteria are under development. So we're looking and we're we would require data that shows that there's a higher vacancy rate there than in other areas of your city. [0:44:03, 0:44:10]: lower number of business licenses being issued there than in other areas of your city and lower number of building permits being issued. [0:44:10, 0:44:11]: So that's under development. [0:44:11, 0:44:16]: And then the other criterion is general distress. [0:44:16, 0:44:22]: And the things that you would use to prove that those areas are in general distress would be a higher crime rate. [0:44:23, 0:44:27]: you know, a higher cr rate of crime going on in that area than in your city as a whole. [0:44:28, 0:44:28]: Um [0:44:29, 0:44:38]: A higher number of code enforcement citations being issued there than in other areas and uh uh a lower unemployment or a higher unemployment rate. [0:44:39, 0:44:42]: We we have all of those. We had a business that actually closed. [0:44:43, 0:44:45]: We got the jewelry store there. [0:44:45, 0:44:49]: was burglarized so many times. That's why we're starting our own police department. [0:44:49, 0:45:09]: The business owner sold the business and evacuated the buildings, bank it now. We have all of that. I need somebody as a council member and a book member of this board. I need somebody to come back and do a reassessment on that fact because this area is distressed. All everything that you just described is in this area. We just need [0:45:09, 0:45:13]: We need we did we might need a microscope, but it's certainly there. [0:45:13, 0:45:19]: Well, Alan, you know, if you can get with um Mr. Alexander and [0:45:20, 0:45:21]: Give me a map. [0:45:22, 0:45:25]: I I will certainly be glad to drive. [0:45:25, 0:45:27]: that area and take a look at it. [0:45:28, 0:45:34]: Oh yeah, we'll uh council member Alexander and I will get together and we'll get that map and uh I know how to contact you, Miss Bennett. [0:45:35, 0:45:36]: Thank you. Thank you. [0:45:39, 0:45:51]: Thank you. Um, Kira, I see your hand before you go, uh before you before I bring you in. Um, Samiko, it looked like you were trying to um either ask a question or had a comment earlier. Did we [0:45:51, 0:45:54]: Did we do we address your question if you have one? [0:45:54, 0:45:55]: Yeah, it was answered. [0:45:56, 0:45:58]: Thank you. Okay. Kira, go ahead. [0:45:59, 0:46:01]: Okay. I just wanted to ask about um [0:46:02, 0:46:03]: Projects that [0:46:03, 0:46:13]: Uh don't actually have a building involved where you are doing infill, where a building may have been removed or it's just um property. [0:46:13, 0:46:18]: That you'd like to develop is this also a candidate for [0:46:18, 0:46:19]: Um, as opposed to [0:46:19, 0:46:22]: Building purchase, you would have land acquisition. [0:46:23, 0:46:35]: Is that included in this type of um funding? You could do that again, just making sure that you understand that we're talking about really tight in to the historic downtown core. [0:46:35, 0:46:35]: Mm-hmm. [0:46:36, 0:46:40]: This would be in within the central historic district. [0:46:41, 0:46:41]: Mm-hmm. [0:46:42, 0:46:42]: Okay. [0:46:44, 0:46:45]: Thank you. [0:46:46, 0:46:48]: Any other questions or comments for Sheree? [0:46:52, 0:47:12]: Seeing none hearing none. Thank you, Sheree. This has been extremely valuable. Um, I I know that most of us saw some of this during the DDA training, but uh that was along with a lot of other information that came to us all within a one or two-day training period. So it's really great to focus on this. And uh I want to thank Councilman Alexander. [0:47:12, 0:47:26]: Sandra and Alan for you know leading the way and getting this arranged to bring you in to speak to us. So I appreciate your time with us. You're welcome to stay through the rest of the meeting, um, but uh at this point we'll move on with the next item on the agenda. Okay, thank you very much. Thank you. [0:47:27, 0:47:28]: Thank you so much. [0:47:29, 0:47:31]: Thank you, Sheree. We'll be in contact. Thank you so much. [0:47:31, 0:47:32]: Sounds good. Bye. [0:47:33, 0:47:34]: Good night. Thank you. [0:47:34, 0:47:37]: Kira, is your hand still up or do you do you have something else? [0:47:40, 0:47:55]: Okay. All right, no problem. Next item on the agenda. Excuse me. Okay, we're uh back to the uh treasurer's update. So um Barber, if you'll give us the um update, please. [0:47:57, 0:47:58]: And you're on you. [0:47:59, 0:48:00]: Okay. [0:48:00, 0:48:11]: Do you uh well I guess I can share my screen if you don't have it up on yours. I I don't have it ready. If you have it available, go ahead and share it. I wanted to since we missed a couple of meetings, I wanted to. [0:48:12, 0:48:12]: Um [0:48:13, 0:48:15]: Backtrack to fiscal year. [0:48:15, 0:48:18]: Twenty twenty one and then we'll talk about January. [0:48:20, 0:48:22]: Okay, let me know if everyone can [0:48:22, 0:48:23]: See that. [0:48:24, 0:48:26]: I see the profit and loss table. Okay, perfect. [0:48:27, 0:48:40]: Pretty uneventful year for 2021. Basically, I I mean we went through this every month. So our expenses were very minimal. We had some training and attorney fees. Those were our biggest expenses in 2021. [0:48:41, 0:48:51]: uh well insurance our annual insurance policy came in at 1696 and then our professional fees for the most part i think we had a few outstanding TSW invoices but [0:48:52, 0:49:12]: Um, this was primarily legal fees and then we had some DDA training, but very minimal expenses. We were um, I just recently found out that we needed to update our wire instructions to get our annual allocation from city council. So uh we will be getting uh funded$45,000. [0:49:12, 0:49:27]: that will apply to 2021, but we're gonna get that in 2022. Um so we have submitted those instructions over to AP at the city. Uh but other than that, there were no sources of revenue for 2021. So for at the end of the year. [0:49:27, 0:49:31]: We ended out at a net loss of sixty five hundred. [0:49:32, 0:49:46]: Any questions about our activity for 2021? Again, we we go over this every month for every month, but I just wanted everyone to see it at a year's view since we didn't meet in January. [0:49:47, 0:49:50]: If no questions there, we'll go to our balance sheet. [0:49:52, 0:49:56]: Um yeah, some funds. Uh our assets are just our two bank accounts. [0:49:57, 0:50:04]: Uh currently in our facade checking account, we have ninety-four thousand eight hundred twenty-seven dollars and five cents. [0:50:05, 0:50:11]: In our operating account, we have thirty-nive thousand one hundred seventy-nine dollars and eight cents. [0:50:14, 0:50:19]: And we have no liabilities, uh had no liabilities at the end of 2021. [0:50:22, 0:50:23]: Any questions there? [0:50:25, 0:50:27]: Okay, I will hop on to [0:50:29, 0:50:30]: January. [0:50:32, 0:50:47]: Right now we only have uh for the month of January, again, no expenses. We do have a monthly uh Zoom expense that comes out. It's$40 a month for this platform that's hosting our meetings. So it's month of January, that was all we had. Um [0:50:51, 0:50:58]: So our cash balance as of January thirty first, the facade grant, uh [0:50:58, 0:51:17]: basically went down by the$40, which is a mistake. For whatever reason, Zoom is taking their fee, it's automatic and the fee is coming out of the facade grant instead of the operating. We're going to get that corrected. You don't see that reflected here, but I have transferred those funds back out of operating to reimburse the facade grant account. [0:51:18, 0:51:23]: So the facade checking is$94,787 and five cents. [0:51:24, 0:51:30]: And the operating account remained the same,$39,179.08. [0:51:33, 0:51:34]: You go below. [0:51:35, 0:51:37]: I like to show this change in cash. [0:51:37, 0:51:43]: Our total current month cash for the two checking accounts is 133 dot 133,000. [0:51:44, 0:51:54]: $966.13, which is a$40 difference from the prior month. And again, that$40 represents our Zoom payment. [0:51:56, 0:51:57]: Um [0:51:58, 0:52:05]: That concludes my report. If we have any questions, I would gladly entertain them. [0:52:11, 0:52:14]: Okay, that's it. I'll start sharing now. [0:52:36, 0:52:36]: Done. [0:52:40, 0:52:42]: Everybody's on mute. [0:52:50, 0:52:50]: Yeah. [0:52:51, 0:53:05]: I'm gonna take that as a name. Oh, I'm on mute. Yeah, you probably I'm so sorry. I know, I'm sorry. Uh I was checking if Bob uh next up is uh the secretary updates. Uh Bob, do you have anything you want to share with the group? [0:53:05, 0:53:06]: Uh no. [0:53:06, 0:53:24]: All right, we'll move on to the Main Street Advisory Board updates. So um uh Barber, shall I defer over to um Kira or did you have something you wanted to share? Because I usually have you and Kira and Lisa all sort of as sharing this agenda item. [0:53:25, 0:53:26]: And Barbie, you're on you. [0:53:27, 0:53:35]: Oh, sorry. Kara, do you want I mean, I just had the few updates for my meeting, but if you want to go on. You can go on and give your okay. Okay. Yeah, sure. [0:53:36, 0:53:37]: Okay, well um [0:53:38, 0:53:40]: Good news that uh [0:53:40, 0:53:47]: The test strickland building, we have a contractor for that, so that should be moving forward at some point. Um [0:53:48, 0:53:53]: Uh it's currently the contract is currently with the attorney for review. So hopefully Main Street will have a new home. [0:53:54, 0:53:55]: At some point. [0:53:57, 0:53:57]: Yeah. [0:53:58, 0:53:59]: Forward to that. [0:54:00, 0:54:08]: Um and then the white box project, the 114 MLK, uh I think well it's supposed to be happening next week, right? A contractor kickoff meeting. [0:54:09, 0:54:16]: And hopefully uh that project will be completed by year end as well. Well, not as well, but that project hopefully will be completed by year end. [0:54:16, 0:54:17]: Um [0:54:17, 0:54:20]: And I think those are the only two updates. Oh, Bridge Fest is back. [0:54:21, 0:54:23]: Are y'all excited about that? I am. [0:54:23, 0:54:27]: I'm very excited about Rich Best coming back. Anyway, so uh [0:54:29, 0:54:39]: I'm so ready to get back to some some form of normalcy. But yeah, Bridgefest is back and so planning should be kicking off of that very soon. We're definitely looking forward to that. [0:54:42, 0:54:44]: Here, anything you'd like to add? [0:54:44, 0:54:50]: Yes, I would just like to add that the Main Street program just recently went through its annual assessment. [0:54:51, 0:54:54]: And we passed that with flying colors. [0:54:54, 0:55:01]: Um just to give you all um an overview of how these assessments are conducted, um usually [0:55:01, 0:55:07]: Um and well we have reporting that we do on a monthly basis and then they [0:55:07, 0:55:13]: DCA, when I say they, I mean DCA, the Department of Community Affairs Office of Downtown. [0:55:13, 0:55:15]: Development will select [0:55:15, 0:55:16]: Um [0:55:16, 0:55:22]: Six about six to eight Main Street programs from across the state to actually do [0:55:22, 0:55:28]: um an in person presentation on their uh community and their main street program. [0:55:29, 0:55:42]: And our number came up for this year, so the Main Street program staff was able to provide a presentation along with our Main Street Advisory Board Chair, Anika Potts, to the DCA staff. [0:55:43, 0:55:49]: It had originally been um scheduled to be in person, but then it moved to a virtual platform. [0:55:49, 0:55:56]: And um we were still able to roll with those punches and um we were given um a very high [0:55:56, 0:56:03]: uh recommendation for our accreditation for the state level and that recommendation would be moved. [0:56:03, 0:56:07]: Um forward to the national level, so we are looking forward to being. [0:56:07, 0:56:10]: and accredited Main Street for yet another year. [0:56:11, 0:56:12]: Um [0:56:12, 0:56:24]: And um Barber mentioned the two downtown projects that are construction projects, the um 114, which is our white box project, and the Ted Strickland, which is a remodel um [0:56:25, 0:56:27]: Conversion project, but we also have [0:56:27, 0:56:30]: our um alleyway project. [0:56:30, 0:56:32]: That is also moving forward. [0:56:32, 0:56:33]: We um [0:56:34, 0:56:38]: recently had a meeting with the um [0:56:38, 0:56:47]: our engineers to give us the most recent iteration of the plan that is um set for that particular space. [0:56:47, 0:56:51]: And we're looking forward to moving that project along as well. That [0:56:52, 0:56:54]: particular project has not gone to bid yet. [0:56:54, 0:56:57]: There was some finalization that the engineers had to do. [0:56:58, 0:57:00]: And then once that um was complete. [0:57:00, 0:57:08]: we'll be moving to the bid process in uh in the very near future. So we're looking forward to that kicking off before the end of the year as well. [0:57:09, 0:57:12]: Lisa, did you have anything else to add? [0:57:14, 0:57:19]: Um the only thing I would add is just a highlight from our assessment. [0:57:20, 0:57:21]: Which was that um [0:57:23, 0:57:23]: Other [0:57:24, 0:57:29]: The staff from DCA was very impressed with our shop small campaign. [0:57:30, 0:57:30]: Um [0:57:31, 0:57:40]: They think that we're doing a really good job. Um, they think that it's our method is somehow something that they could use for future training. [0:57:40, 0:57:47]: Um, so I just wanted to thank everybody that's involved with that because it's a big undertaking and we never do it by ourselves. So thank you all. [0:57:48, 0:57:50]: for whatever help you've been able to give us. [0:57:50, 0:57:54]: And as a matter of fact, they have asked us to present. [0:57:54, 0:57:57]: Our um shop small strategy. [0:57:57, 0:58:00]: On a statewide basis, they would like for us to conduct a webinar. [0:58:01, 0:58:10]: Um, to serve as an example and um somewhat of a mentor for other Main Street programs across the state. So we're pretty excited about that. Yeah, we're pretty excited. [0:58:13, 0:58:17]: And that concludes all um that I had to report on, Roger. [0:58:18, 0:58:22]: Thank you all. Any questions for the Main Street folks? [0:58:23, 0:58:43]: All right, we will move on. The next item on the agenda is uh facade grant updates. So uh we have um we met today, um myself and Alan and Bob, who has uh agreed to help lead, you know, help lead the uh program. Um we have reviewed um both the existing application that's on our website. [0:58:43, 0:59:03]: website uh and recognize that our our application um needs a little bit of work there's some there's some areas that are that need to be updated just some examples it's got some prior DDA chair contact information it's got uh um the um wrong uh data [0:59:03, 0:59:23]: downtown city map. And because of our most recent experience with an application that's been going on for a while, we recognize that there's some rules that need to be clarified in the application to put a time limit on an application as far, you know, so that it just doesn't stay open in perpetuity. [0:59:23, 0:59:43]: So um let me say first, um, I'm asking for anyone's help uh with this team to review the existing applications. Um, in addition to what we have out there, um, Alan has given us a wealth of information that um, you know, he where he helped to serve uh in the [0:59:43, 1:00:03]: In the facade grant program at uh Stone Mountain. And that's proved to be extremely valuable to help us fill in the gaps on some of the program rules that we didn't clearly identify that would help us. So it's really a matter of reviewing those documents, making edit recommendations to our existing application, and getting that. [1:00:03, 1:00:23]: uh finalized for this board's approval to revise those um the both the internal process and the public facing application by our next board meeting. So let me uh pause on that to ask um uh well let me mention first that uh we are looking to meet next uh Monday or Wednesday. [1:00:23, 1:00:42]: at five o'clock. So I'd like to ask if there's anyone on the DDA that would be willing to help out with that. We can certainly use the extra pair of eyes and help. And if you if you're not ready to commit to that now, you can either speak up now or send me an email after the meeting. Any questions or comments on that so far? [1:00:44, 1:00:52]: Uh I do have a comment, but yes, sir. Uh certainly I'm going to this is my role to try to come in and try to listen a lot to what you guys are doing. [1:00:52, 1:00:55]: And to also kind of let you know what we look at. [1:00:56, 1:01:03]: From the council standpoint and from my standpoint, I would like that ninety-four thousand dollars to say zero at the end of the year. [1:01:04, 1:01:13]: Cause the money needs to go out. And whatever we need to do to increase the outreach, do it. Cause I'd like to give you another ninety-four thousand next year. [1:01:14, 1:01:34]: because we have you see the same things that I see on a daily basis. There are businesses out there that need it. So whatever we need to do in terms of the committee, in terms of outreach, knocking on doors, sending out information, but we got to get the information out to these businesses. So that amount comes down significantly. [1:01:33, 1:01:40]: to be our success by the end of the year is to get it as close to zero uh as we can. Thank you. [1:01:41, 1:01:56]: Thank you, sir. And I wholeheartedly agree, which is a great segue to the next phase of the uh uh program updates, which is I'm sorry, Roger, can I say something go ahead Lisa after Councilman Alexander um and hopefully Cira can um [1:01:56, 1:01:59]: kind of support me on this, but um [1:01:59, 1:02:05]: You know, what we've found out through our national and state contacts is that um [1:02:06, 1:02:07]: A lot of [1:02:07, 1:02:10]: communities are not seeing use. [1:02:10, 1:02:12]: Of the um [1:02:12, 1:02:14]: facade grant funding right now. [1:02:15, 1:02:17]: And that's as a result of the pandemic. [1:02:18, 1:02:21]: Um, it turns out that business owners are saying [1:02:21, 1:02:30]: We've got other, you know, bigger fish to fry. We're not talking about fixing up the front of the building right now. And so since the money was just sitting there. [1:02:30, 1:02:31]: Um [1:02:32, 1:02:35]: The national main street center and [1:02:35, 1:02:36]: Uh DCA [1:02:37, 1:02:41]: Have made suggestions of how you can use that money in different ways. [1:02:41, 1:02:45]: To help your local businesses during this transition period. [1:02:45, 1:02:48]: Um, so you know, we might have to rethink. [1:02:49, 1:02:52]: How the money is going to go out into the community. [1:02:52, 1:03:02]: Um, and not just focus on what we remember from three years ago. Cause it was working great back then in in a lot of communities, but a lot of things have changed and we have to be able to pivot um. [1:03:03, 1:03:05]: Along with them, so um [1:03:05, 1:03:06]: You know [1:03:06, 1:03:11]: If Kira's not able to give an example of how the money is used, we've heard some suggestions. [1:03:11, 1:03:15]: Then maybe that's something we can find out and send you more information about it. [1:03:17, 1:03:17]: Um [1:03:18, 1:03:20]: I can actually give some examples. [1:03:21, 1:03:27]: Some communities have converted these particular funds for a temporary basis into [1:03:27, 1:03:30]: micro loans and or grants. [1:03:30, 1:03:32]: They've also [1:03:33, 1:03:36]: Um created programs that [1:03:36, 1:03:39]: Асистню бізнес. [1:03:39, 1:03:41]: With opening, for example. [1:03:42, 1:03:44]: Utility deposit assistance. [1:03:45, 1:03:46]: Um [1:03:46, 1:03:51]: Building permit assistance, um, fire inspection, you know, some [1:03:51, 1:03:56]: For example, restaurants have to have very expensive. [1:03:56, 1:04:03]: Um fire prevention measures added to their um building structures. So the [1:04:03, 1:04:04]: Um [1:04:04, 1:04:21]: not irrigation, but um water prevent the where the water comes down. Sprinkler system sprinkler system. Thank you, Councilman Alexander. Sprinkler systems. You know, those types of things that are very costly for a new business to open. [1:04:22, 1:04:32]: And must have, those are the types of things that these types of funds have been used utilized for to assist those new business owners in. [1:04:33, 1:04:40]: um being able to open and to maintain their businesses that first few years of life. So [1:04:41, 1:04:44]: Um being creative with those funds, I'm I'm not saying [1:04:45, 1:04:52]: Get rid of the facade grant program, but there are ways to utilize those funds in different ways. [1:04:52, 1:04:58]: that can also assist new businesses and entrepreneurs that are coming into your downtown district. [1:04:59, 1:05:00]: That aren't necessarily [1:05:01, 1:05:02]: A facade grant. [1:05:02, 1:05:05]: Um and then once [1:05:05, 1:05:10]: you have some momentum with regard to new businesses coming into your district. [1:05:10, 1:05:12]: You can return back to [1:05:12, 1:05:19]: financing facades because you are seeing that you've got new businesses that are up and running. [1:05:19, 1:05:22]: Now let's start working on the exterior of your building. [1:05:23, 1:05:26]: So there are a lot of programs. There's the Boost program that [1:05:26, 1:05:32]: Um has been very successful across the state that um gives small business owners um [1:05:33, 1:05:36]: Initial operating cost and things like that. So [1:05:36, 1:05:43]: Um, we'd be happy to bring some of those examples from across the state for you all to look at. [1:05:43, 1:05:46]: And just get some ideas from and maybe it's something that [1:05:47, 1:05:51]: We come up with in our own community that's a necessity. [1:05:52, 1:05:55]: We have one fourteen that is going to be [1:05:55, 1:05:58]: ready, you know, completed by the end of the year. [1:05:58, 1:06:01]: Perhaps there is a way that we can utilize. [1:06:01, 1:06:10]: some of those funds as incentives for business to locate in our downtown. Um, so we can get together and put our heads together and try to figure out. [1:06:11, 1:06:19]: What is the best use for those funds in this particular moment in time? And then look for future. [1:06:19, 1:06:21]: um continuation. [1:06:21, 1:06:23]: Of a facade grant program because right now [1:06:23, 1:06:28]: The priority is not making the outside of my building look pretty. Right now is [1:06:29, 1:06:31]: The priority is let me stay open. [1:06:31, 1:06:39]: for another six months so that I can maintain this business and be a contributor to our community. [1:06:40, 1:06:42]: And I just wanted to add, um [1:06:42, 1:06:51]: Be even though we have the opportunity to do this, it's very generous, but it's not considered to be wasteful, you know. [1:06:52, 1:07:00]: I've seen some businesses recently that um, you know, they opened up as COVID preneurs, which is a big trend right now. [1:07:01, 1:07:15]: Um, but they're not necessarily um sustainable. So we do want to be careful how we are issuing the funds so that it's worth it to us as a community. You know, we want to help get our downtown up and running. [1:07:15, 1:07:18]: But we don't want sort of a fly by night, you see. [1:07:20, 1:07:24]: Exactly. Exactly. So, you know, they're gonna have to definite [1:07:24, 1:07:26]: Some thought and um [1:07:26, 1:07:27]: Strategic planning. [1:07:28, 1:07:31]: Would need to go into that um sort of repurposing. [1:07:32, 1:07:37]: But I think that it is definitely something that the DDA might want to consider. [1:07:38, 1:07:40]: All right, thank you. Barber, I see your hand up. [1:07:42, 1:08:01]: I had two, I guess, unrelated questions. Now the first question I had regarding the facade grant was, um, how does that tie into design standards? Have we developed design standards yet, you know, for aesthetics in the downtown or one had nothing to do with the other? [1:08:04, 1:08:10]: I I guess I'm Are you asking me or who are you asking? Just in just in general. [1:08:10, 1:08:12]: And you know what I mean? Like [1:08:12, 1:08:22]: If we're helping to fund the facade or or updates to the exterior of a of a building and simultaneously we have desires to have a cohesive look. [1:08:23, 1:08:25]: you know, in that area. [1:08:26, 1:08:28]: How are the two working together? [1:08:29, 1:08:33]: That is I was just gonna say that that was something that we thought would be [1:08:34, 1:08:46]: handled in the um new iteration of our UDC that the um city is currently working on. Some of those items have been addressed, but um Main Street staff [1:08:47, 1:08:53]: Um, does have um a few items that we would like to tweak a bit in what has been proposed. [1:08:53, 1:08:54]: So [1:08:55, 1:08:58]: The answer is kind of yes and no. Yes, there have been some. [1:08:58, 1:09:03]: Um, measures put in place to create some uniformity. [1:09:03, 1:09:04]: But [1:09:04, 1:09:05]: There are some [1:09:05, 1:09:10]: Um, I guess some fine points that need to be ironed out with regard to [1:09:11, 1:09:16]: Downtown specifically the historic district part of downtown. [1:09:17, 1:09:21]: that we would like to see um changed from what is currently [1:09:21, 1:09:24]: being um included in the UDC. [1:09:24, 1:09:25]: Okay. [1:09:25, 1:09:27]: Thank you. My second question, um [1:09:28, 1:09:41]: Councilman, I totally I'm all on board with how can we, you know, spend those funds. My question regarding repurposing those funds is if the council approves a certain budget for facade. [1:09:42, 1:09:50]: That's been given to us. Do we have the authority to say, okay, well, they gave us 25,000 for the side, but we're gonna repurpose that for [1:09:51, 1:09:53]: utilities and and operating expenses. Is that [1:09:54, 1:09:57]: We had the leverage to to do that, councilman? I don't know. [1:09:58, 1:10:18]: I think that's something that we'd have to ask legal. That's a legal question. So I'm not one to answer that question. Uh it sounds like a good idea, but it certainly need would need need to be uh vetted by the legal council to make sure whatever the G D D A rules are in the intergovernmental agreement is with the city. So uh I would ask the defer. [1:10:18, 1:10:20]: that question to legal counsel. [1:10:21, 1:10:25]: Okay. Cause I think it's a great idea too. So it is. Yeah. Mm-hmm. [1:10:25, 1:10:27]: And that's it. That's all my question. [1:10:27, 1:10:33]: Thank you. Alan, did you have anything to add to Barber's question regarding the design standards? [1:10:35, 1:10:41]: Oh no, um Kira touched on everything and just wanted to let you know that the council hasn't voted on that UDC yet. [1:10:42, 1:10:53]: Yeah, and I I would say that uh the ULDC is taking a long time because we want to get it right. Okay. We we've done an endeavor some things. I don't know if you watched the last meeting. [1:10:54, 1:10:57]: Uh where we were discussing the UDC about a month ago. [1:10:57, 1:11:00]: And we were talking about it intensely. [1:11:00, 1:11:17]: And the the council wants to have a zero tolerance in terms of violations. When somebody has the grass that's ungrown or they're not taking care of the lung, stop slapping them on the wrist. We've had enough of that because again, we wanted the penalty to be to be enough. [1:11:17, 1:11:22]: That if you didn't cut the grass and we charged you fifty dollars for not cutting the grass. [1:11:22, 1:11:30]: Then you might as well not cut the grass because you can pay fifty dollars uh one time for three months and not cut the grass. So [1:11:30, 1:11:50]: There is a fee schedule now that says that'll start off and then get$100. And then the second violation is$500. So it's punitive in that you do it one time, we're gonna tell we we the fine is this. But if you do it the second time, then it's five hundred dollars. And then you do it the third time, it's [1:11:50, 1:12:02]: even more than that. So those things being enforced and then the code enforcement has been doing a blitz along North Henry Drive or North Henry Boulevard to see whether or not [1:12:02, 1:12:06]: Uh they could uh improve some behavior and there has been some. [1:12:06, 1:12:10]: improvement in those behaviors whereas the repeat violators [1:12:10, 1:12:13]: were just had kind of grown across them to playing the game. [1:12:14, 1:12:17]: We don't want to play any more games with them and understand that. [1:12:17, 1:12:21]: Лисен, дис, вимот, а [1:12:21, 1:12:28]: You know, it's going to be dictated by what the policy is going forward. But the ULDC is going to be very intense. [1:12:29, 1:12:48]: If you got litter on the parking lot now, we're gonna be able to deal with that. You need to clean up the parking lot. We want the street sweeper going down the road down there for fine details. We're spending another$200,000 for another street sweeper. We got the first street sweeper out there to make sure that we're doing our part on our side. [1:12:49, 1:12:50]: Uh in terms of [1:12:50, 1:12:52]: How your building look, how [1:12:52, 1:12:58]: uh the overall property looks, those types of things need to be um [1:12:59, 1:13:02]: need to be held in check. And we cannot continue to [1:13:02, 1:13:07]: have lax rules as far as that's concerned and we no longer should have that. [1:13:07, 1:13:09]: uh at this point going forward. [1:13:12, 1:13:32]: All right, thank you. Um, so as far as the uh facade grant work, so our our goal is so you know, I want uh Lisa and Kira, the points you made about maybe um offering some creative alternatives to uh you know utilizing those funds, assuming that you know there's no uh legal constraint to repurposing. [1:13:32, 1:13:52]: uh that in addition to the facade grant, uh certainly not in instead of, um, I would I would welcome either of your input in you know the working session that Bob and I uh have planned for next week. And and you know I'm flexible it can either be Monday or Wednesday at five o'clock next week to um go through that. And that invitation is open to anyone [1:13:52, 1:14:12]: on this call who wants to help out with um um sort of getting that program um you know just cleaning up the the program updating it make sure it's current so that we can then go to the next step which would be to market the program to our local business community so that we can start taking advantage of um [1:14:12, 1:14:27]: you know, the grant itself, uh, which I see as you know kind of a marketing program. We probably need some collateral material, maybe some knocking on doors, uh reach out to make sure everyone's aware of the program, and then some in and and we're ready to uh process those applications. [1:14:27, 1:14:31]: And Roger, I did have another question for the Main Street. [1:14:31, 1:14:36]: Now the Main Street composed of the beautification committee. Could y'all talk about that a little bit? [1:14:37, 1:14:42]: That is coming up on our agenda. Okay, that's no okay, okay. I thought that was on the what they were doing now, sorry. [1:14:42, 1:15:02]: Very good. Actually, you know, um we we went past that. It was on the agenda, but I put it under the Main Street Advisory Board updates and I neglected to call it out. So Kira, do you mind? Um I think you're leading up the beautification committee for the joint uh DDA MSAB. Um do you want to provide an update? [1:15:02, 1:15:03]: [4504.5, 4516.3]: I'm sure we met, I think um two weeks ago now, might be just one week ago. Um, but we did discuss, we're we're kind of breaking down downtown beautification into [1:15:16, 1:15:20]: different um I guess areas of impact. [1:15:21, 1:15:24]: And we have, you know, discussed um [1:15:24, 1:15:28]: beautification in banners and um [1:15:28, 1:15:32]: furniture and um I guess bringing um [1:15:32, 1:15:36]: Objects into the downtown that will help enhance the overall [1:15:37, 1:15:38]: Um, vibe of the downtown. [1:15:39, 1:15:42]: We just recently at our last meeting discussed. [1:15:42, 1:15:50]: Lighting and how lighting impacts the downtown, how it creates an a certain atmosphere, mood, a feeling of safety. [1:15:51, 1:15:52]: And brings uniqueness. [1:15:53, 1:15:54]: to a downtown space. [1:15:55, 1:15:56]: And [1:15:56, 1:16:01]: We are going to be looking at ways to bring lighting into the downtown. [1:16:02, 1:16:04]: That will be cost effective and [1:16:04, 1:16:06]: Kind of change the [1:16:06, 1:16:07]: The downtown feel. [1:16:08, 1:16:16]: Um we will be meeting on um looking at how to activate the downtown in our next meeting. So our [1:16:16, 1:16:18]: Members have some homework to go out and [1:16:18, 1:16:20]: Um, think about [1:16:21, 1:16:24]: Find examples of andor brainstorm on. [1:16:24, 1:16:26]: Activating the downtown district. [1:16:27, 1:16:27]: Without [1:16:28, 1:16:29]: Bringing an event. [1:16:30, 1:16:33]: That is always a big challenge on how you [1:16:33, 1:16:37]: Activate your downtown space, get people interested in coming downtown. [1:16:38, 1:16:42]: Get people um used to coming down and creating a certain atmosphere. [1:16:43, 1:16:47]: And bringing vibrancy to your downtown area without [1:16:47, 1:16:52]: actually bringing an event. So that has been the challenge that has been issued too. [1:16:52, 1:16:57]: our beautification committee and I look forward to hearing what they have come up with. [1:17:00, 1:17:03]: Any questions or comments for Kira on the beatification? [1:17:06, 1:17:11]: All right. And any any further questions or comments regarding the uh facade grant updates? [1:17:14, 1:17:20]: All right. Um we'll move on to city staff updates. So um Mr. Peterson, we'll give you the floor. [1:17:23, 1:17:24]: Thank you very much, Roger. [1:17:25, 1:17:33]: Um, I mentioned this during the presentation. The community improvement district feasibility feasibility study was improved last night. [1:17:34, 1:17:39]: And um that's great for economic development. What we're trying to do, that's a gateway into downtown. [1:17:40, 1:17:44]: Um and that's the only staff update. My other updates on I'm later on in the agenda. [1:17:45, 1:17:48]: Um, so that's it for the um the city staff update. [1:17:49, 1:17:54]: Very good. Any um any um any questions for um for Alan? [1:17:56, 1:17:58]: Well, well, Roger, one more thing. Um [1:17:59, 1:18:00]: And I I mentioned this before. [1:18:01, 1:18:05]: Um and previous meetings and I mentioned it during the the presentation. [1:18:06, 1:18:09]: Well, not presentation, but when you discuss the market study. [1:18:09, 1:18:10]: Um [1:18:10, 1:18:15]: Placer, Georgia Power uh sent us the Placer reports. I think Roger sent that to the group, right? [1:18:16, 1:18:22]: Yes. Okay. We're trying to get Georgia Power to come to the March 15th meeting. [1:18:22, 1:18:25]: so that they can explain what all that means. [1:18:27, 1:18:47]: Um and let me a correction. I don't believe I've sent it out to the DDA because I was needing kind of confirmation that we would have someone to interpret what those reports mean because I reviewed them and it was a lot of information. Yeah, it yeah, it's it's a lot. We're we're working on them on Georgia Power coming on March the 15th. Right. Um [1:18:47, 1:18:52]: So just just just giving everyone a heads up. It's um if you look at it. [1:18:52, 1:18:54]: It's a lot of information. It can be confusing. [1:18:54, 1:18:59]: But it's it's good information. So just just giving everyone a heads up about that next meeting. [1:19:00, 1:19:18]: All right, so thank you for mentioning that. Um I will send I will go ahead and forward it to the DDA um with with the caveat that I don't I probably have as many questions as you might have once you start reviewing the information and and thank you Alan for for making the arrangements to have someone review that with us in our next meeting. [1:19:21, 1:19:41]: All right. Next up we have uh city council updates. So Councilman Alexander, thank you again for uh serving as our liaison. So do you have any updates you want to share with the DDA from council? Well the first thing, I'm I'm glad that um you know we're here to work and uh that we want to make sure that we do everything necessary. [1:19:41, 1:19:43]: to move downtown forward. [1:19:43, 1:19:51]: The one thing about me, I don't like to just meet to talk. I like to see action following what we do. [1:19:51, 1:20:05]: You know, we can come to this meeting every single day, every single month and be like, okay, we're gonna do this. No, that's not how I work. I wanna see some results at the end of the year, some tangible results. And the tangible results begin with. [1:20:05, 1:20:08]: And I challenge the council the same way. [1:20:08, 1:20:11]: Economic development does not happen in a vacuum. [1:20:12, 1:20:18]: Mr. Peterson is the economic development director, but every last one of us are economic development. [1:20:18, 1:20:22]: And how economic development works is on relationships. [1:20:22, 1:20:36]: Who do you know that you can pick up the phone and tell about the opportunities in downtown Stockbridge? Who do you know? And at the end of the year, how many opportunities or tours have you given? [1:20:36, 1:20:41]: of the downtown area, your area that we're trying to attract people to. And I think [1:20:42, 1:20:43]: You know, we need to make sure that we're [1:20:44, 1:21:01]: uh invested uh into um the thing like we were doing, which is the economic summit that we had here where we have business people come to Merrill Manders, meet, show them the interest. Right now, how many do you all know that we had a hundred million dollars in investment? [1:21:02, 1:21:05]: coming to downtown. How many raise your hand. How many people knew that? [1:21:07, 1:21:14]: Let me tell you how. Okay. The amphitheater is twenty-three million dollars. The council invested twenty-three million dollars. [1:21:14, 1:21:18]: The it see, let me under help you to understand this. [1:21:18, 1:21:38]: I love Patty LaBelle, but it's not about Patty LaBelle. It's about who Patty brings into town. Okay. All of the acts, the dancing, the music and all of that. If at the end of the day it does not bring a new restaurant or a bookstore or a clothing store or a bank or financial institution. [1:21:39, 1:21:52]: It was all for not. That's$23 million. Did you know that we just got awarded the new STEM School Science, Technology, and Engineering and Mathematics$45 million project? [1:21:52, 1:21:56]: You know, from the very first day that I took office in the school. [1:21:56, 1:21:58]: I rema in in in uh [1:21:58, 1:22:03]: I reminded the school board that there had not been a significant project. [1:22:03, 1:22:06]: Located in the city of Stockbridge and forever and a day. [1:22:06, 1:22:09]: And at every opportunity during my course of service. [1:22:10, 1:22:11]: I wanted to reach out to them. [1:22:11, 1:22:13]: To let them know how interested we were. [1:22:14, 1:22:16]: When they built the Fairview [1:22:17, 1:22:17]: Um [1:22:18, 1:22:20]: Culture art art center. [1:22:20, 1:22:23]: I was disappointed that that project didn't come to Stockbridge. [1:22:23, 1:22:24]: But in the end. [1:22:25, 1:22:28]: You know what, it was delayed, but it was not denied. [1:22:28, 1:22:48]: If you don't understand how significant that's going to be, that's a$45 million project, a three-story, absolutely beautiful state-of-the-art building coming to downtown, where all of the best educational facilities, all of the students, the brightest and the best, will be coming from all over Henry County. As you know, [1:22:48, 1:22:55]: know schools dictate economic development. Unfortunately, a lot of the schools in Stockbridge aren't highly rated. [1:22:55, 1:23:07]: this will give us the highest rated school in the community to draw economic development. So when the businesses start to look at the schools, they'll be able to look at this new state of the art school. [1:23:08, 1:23:17]: are in our downtown. They're gonna refurbish Stockbridge Elementary with a new gymnasium there. They'll be creating beautification. [1:23:17, 1:23:20]: And they'll be tying in hopefully. [1:23:20, 1:23:23]: uh to our amphitheater. The proposal that I'm trying to [1:23:23, 1:23:27]: Work through the board with and the council is to have a pedestrian bridge. [1:23:27, 1:23:29]: Go from one side of North Henry. [1:23:29, 1:23:40]: connecting the amphitheater to the um cult through the to the STEM school. So imagine that if you've been down 85 and you drive that 85 and you drive [1:23:40, 1:23:41]: Down and you see

--- title: Regular Council Meetings date: 2022-02-14 source: 2022-02-14_Regular_Council_Meetings.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:00]: [ 1.7, 3.6]: There we go. Now we're back to recording. Okay. [0:00:04, 0:00:08]: I I so move um to the motion, Mayor. Okay. [0:00:09, 0:00:09]: All right, is there a second? [0:00:11, 0:00:14]: Mr. Blount's uh Rose's hand, second that all in favor, please indicate. [0:00:16, 0:00:20]: Okay, looks like it is unanimous on that. Okay, fantastic. So those items will come off and we [0:00:21, 0:00:24]: We'll deal with them on next meeting. Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [0:00:24, 0:00:31]: Um I'd like to uh amend the agenda to add a discussion item regarding the management of the amphitheater. [0:00:32, 0:00:37]: Okay. Is there a second to that uh particular uh motion to uh amendment? [0:00:39, 0:00:47]: Ms. Gantt, you second that? Okay. All right. All all in favor of that particular motion, please indicate. [0:00:48, 0:00:49]: Two three. [0:00:50, 0:00:50]: Four [0:00:51, 0:01:01]: Ah okay, so now she says so discussion of the amphitheater and we'll put that at the very management of the amphitheater. [0:01:02, 0:01:04]: I'm sorry. Question. Yes, sir. [0:01:04, 0:01:22]: uh is that executive session or not uh i would think it can uh well i you know what we have for tonight we have um uh miss davis uh for bell bell and washington online with us since quentin is out of the yes ma'am there you go thank you ma'am for joining us [0:01:22, 0:01:32]: Yes. Um I would think that uh the question was asked about the discussion of uh about the management of of our amphitheater, which is a contractor. I'm assuming [0:01:32, 0:01:38]: that we cannot my assumption we cannot talk about a segment session is not a segment session action that I know of. [0:01:38, 0:01:46]: Okay. That's that's that's Mayor, this is Mayor, this is Jeremy. I'm joining by phone right now. That's not an executive session item. [0:01:47, 0:01:49]: Okay. [0:01:49, 0:01:55]: Okay, so the last meeting they told me no we couldn't discuss it in the executive session. Okay. [0:01:56, 0:01:59]: All right, so we will put that [0:01:59, 0:02:04]: It uh on my list that's number 24 right behind the chief here. Okay. [0:02:11, 0:02:31]: Okay. Excuse me. Are we on Facebook? Uh we are not on Facebook at this time. We're recording. Uh what it is is that um uh Ms. Thornton is is attempting to get us on Facebook. Uh our typical Mr. Bond Mr. Bond is uh not with us tonight. And as far as I know, there isn't any other [0:02:31, 0:02:47]: Unfortunately, at this time. Any other IT professional tech guy from the company that's on with us this evening. Uh made a couple phone calls to try to get that rectified. Uh Mr. Bond, I think, has some some some personal issues or something to do. So we're not. So Shana's attempting to do that if we can get it done. [0:02:47, 0:02:49]: You know, hopefully that'll happen. [0:02:51, 0:02:54]: Sir, we are now live. Okay. Thank you. [0:02:54, 0:02:58]: And lif live such as on recording or on Facebook. [0:03:02, 0:03:10]: It is saying here that we are on our Facebook streaming. We were live from the very beginning. Okay. In terms of recording. Okay. Got it. Thank you. Appreciate it then. [0:03:11, 0:03:12]: There's your answer, Mr. Blount. [0:03:13, 0:03:18]: All right, um all right, any other amendments or changes uh to this for the agenda for tonight. [0:03:21, 0:03:23]: Mayor Mayor. [0:03:23, 0:03:28]: Okay, I thought though there was an amendment uh Mr. Gardner wanted to add in reference to [0:03:28, 0:03:30]: The highway one hundred thirty eight. [0:03:31, 0:03:33]: Uh feasibility study. Is that correct? [0:03:33, 0:03:44]: That's that's correct. Good point. Well so moved. So moved. Okay. Is there a second to add the CID uh feasibility study? Ms. Barber, second that as well. All in favor, please indicate. [0:03:46, 0:03:53]: All right, so now it's decision. Okay, so that'll come near the end as well. Let's see here. The number 25. [0:03:59, 0:04:00]: Alrighty. [0:04:02, 0:04:03]: Okay. [0:04:05, 0:04:10]: Okay, on that note, uh I need a motion to accept the overall agenda, please. [0:04:12, 0:04:12]: So move. [0:04:12, 0:04:16]: Sorry, second. Ms. Barber, you second that? Oh all in favor, please indicate. [0:04:17, 0:04:37]: Okay, fantastic. You now have to assist. Okay, we will now move on. All right. Um, I need a motion to uh well actually to adopt the minutes. The minutes of the sport special call meeting on December 9th of 21. Uh the minutes for the council meeting on uh December 13th of uh 2021, the meeting minutes for [0:04:37, 0:04:48]: special call meeting on uh the 15th of December of 2021 and also the minutes for our work session on this on the 12th, excuse me, December uh 21st of 2021. [0:04:49, 0:04:50]: Solo. Is there a second? [0:04:53, 0:04:54]: Is there a second? [0:04:55, 0:04:56]: To to approve these minutes. [0:04:59, 0:05:01]: Ms. Blount, Mr. Blount second that. Okay. [0:05:02, 0:05:03]: All in favor, please indicate. [0:05:05, 0:05:18]: I see okay. Is there a dynamic decision, Miss Ms. Garden? Okay, Miss Okay, so uh you you stay all right, so uh four zero one. Ms. Barber had an opportunity to [0:05:18, 0:05:21]: Review those. Sorry. Okay. [0:05:21, 0:05:23]: 401. Thank you. Um [0:05:24, 0:05:26]: Uh Ms. Kat, you you muted. [0:05:28, 0:05:34]: I'm abstaining, I'm sorry, because I don't think I was here for the December twenty first meeting. I was with my family. [0:05:35, 0:05:38]: All right, so it's three zero two. [0:05:38, 0:05:42]: On that note, the motion still passes. Okay. Um [0:05:42, 0:05:45]: Miss Holliday. Uh any public comments at all? [0:05:45, 0:05:49]: There are no public comments bearing. Oh okay, thank you very much. [0:05:51, 0:06:04]: All right. Um ceremonial. We have several ceremonial issues this evening of readings. And um what I'd like to do is if for is uh Miss Barber Dorita Barber, you're online. [0:06:05, 0:06:21]: Yes, sir. I'm here. Mayor Ford. Well, thank you very much, ma'am. So you uh you have now been uh assigned and appointed to the uh council of aging and so I need to officially swear you in. And so uh could you could you show yourself please? [0:06:25, 0:06:29]: Let's see if I get my video up and running. Hold on one second. [0:06:30, 0:06:31]: Mm-hmm. [0:06:31, 0:06:33]: And could you raise your right hand? [0:06:34, 0:06:39]: And repeat after me and I'll take this in small pieces. Aye, and please state your name. [0:06:40, 0:06:42]: Hi Dorita Barber. [0:06:42, 0:06:43]: Do solemnly swear and affirm? [0:06:44, 0:06:48]: Do solemnly swear and affirm that I will faithfully perform [0:06:49, 0:06:52]: That I will faithfully perform. Duties of the council on aging. [0:06:53, 0:06:58]: The duties of the Council of Aging. As a representative for the city of Stockbridge. [0:06:59, 0:07:02]: As a representative for the city of Stockbridge. [0:07:02, 0:07:03]: And that I will. [0:07:04, 0:07:05]: And then I will. [0:07:05, 0:07:06]: To the best of my ability. [0:07:07, 0:07:08]: To the best of my ability. [0:07:08, 0:07:10]: Support and defend the charter. [0:07:11, 0:07:12]: Support and defend the charter. [0:07:13, 0:07:13]: Thereof. [0:07:14, 0:07:17]: Thereof. As well as the constitution and laws. [0:07:18, 0:07:20]: as well as the constitution and laws. [0:07:20, 0:07:21]: Of the state of Georgia. [0:07:22, 0:07:25]: Of the state of Georgia. In the United States of America. [0:07:25, 0:07:27]: In the United States of America. [0:07:27, 0:07:29]: I further affirm that. [0:07:29, 0:07:31]: I further affirm that [0:07:32, 0:07:33]: Upon assumption of this office. [0:07:34, 0:07:36]: Upon assumption of the office. [0:07:36, 0:07:39]: I do not hold any unaccounted for public money. [0:07:40, 0:07:44]: I do not hold any unaccounted for public money. [0:07:44, 0:07:45]: Do unpayable to the state. [0:07:46, 0:07:48]: due and payable to the state. [0:07:48, 0:07:50]: and any political subdivision of the state. [0:07:51, 0:07:53]: In any political subdivision of the state. [0:07:53, 0:07:55]: The city of Stockbridge. [0:07:55, 0:07:58]: The city of Stockbridge. Why need authority thereof? [0:07:59, 0:08:02]: or any authority thereof? Nor do I hold [0:08:02, 0:08:05]: Nor do I hold. Any other office of trust? [0:08:06, 0:08:09]: Any other office of trust? Of the government of the United States. [0:08:10, 0:08:13]: Of the government of the government of the United States. [0:08:13, 0:08:15]: Of this state? [0:08:15, 0:08:18]: Of this state? Any foreign or any foreign state. [0:08:19, 0:08:21]: Any foreign state. [0:08:21, 0:08:22]: As prescribed by the law. [0:08:23, 0:08:26]: As prescribed by the law. Of the state of Georgia. [0:08:26, 0:08:28]: Of the state of Georgia. [0:08:28, 0:08:30]: I'll perform I will perform the duties. [0:08:31, 0:08:33]: I will perform the duties. Of my office. [0:08:34, 0:08:36]: Of my office. In the best interest of the city. [0:08:37, 0:08:40]: In the best interest of the city. [0:08:41, 0:08:45]: Of stock breach. And the best and excuse me. And to the best. [0:08:46, 0:08:47]: And to the best. [0:08:47, 0:08:48]: Of my ability. [0:08:49, 0:08:51]: Of my ability. Without fear. [0:08:51, 0:08:53]: Without fear. Favour. [0:08:53, 0:08:55]: Favor. Affection. [0:08:55, 0:08:57]: Affection. Reward. [0:08:57, 0:09:00]: Reward expectation thereof. [0:09:00, 0:09:05]: our expectation thereof. This is the fourteenth day of February twenty twenty two. [0:09:06, 0:09:09]: This is the fourteenth day of February twenty twenty two. [0:09:09, 0:09:13]: Well congratulations. You're now officially sworn in. Okay. Thank you. [0:09:13, 0:09:24]: I I I will have to sign this official document and so would the clerk Vanessa Holiday and yourself. So we'll have to coordinate a time frame to get you to uh up to City Hall to sign these documents, okay? [0:09:25, 0:09:29]: Okay. Thank you, Sarah. You're welcome. Do you have any comments for any uh for us at all this time? [0:09:30, 0:09:31]: No, now at this time. [0:09:31, 0:09:34]: Okay, thank you very much. You can uh you can stay as long as you like. [0:09:35, 0:09:35]: Okay. [0:09:37, 0:09:49]: Uh next we'll have the swearing in of the downtown development authority board members, Robert Custon and and Robert Swagert. And gentlemen, please unmute yourself. [0:09:50, 0:09:51]: You raise your right hand. [0:09:53, 0:09:56]: And um I state your name, please. [0:09:57, 0:09:58]: Hi, Roger Coston. [0:10:00, 0:10:10]: Okay, so Mr. Swagert's not online? I am not seeing Mr. Swagger online. Okay, okay, Rob Robert, uh just you and I then. Uh board member, do solemnly swear or affirm. [0:10:11, 0:10:15]: Board member, do you solemnly swear and affirm? That I will faithfully perform. [0:10:15, 0:10:26]: That I will faithfully perform. The duties of the downtown development authority. The duties of the downtown development authority. Of the city of Stockbridge. Of the City of Stockbridge. And that I will. [0:10:27, 0:10:32]: And that I will to the best of my ability. To the best of my ability. Support and defend. [0:10:32, 0:10:35]: Support and defend a charter thereof. [0:10:35, 0:10:38]: The charter thereof. As well as the constitution. [0:10:39, 0:10:42]: As well as the constitution and laws of the state of Georgia. [0:10:42, 0:10:45]: And the laws of the state of Georgia. And the United States of America. [0:10:45, 0:10:47]: And the United States of America. [0:10:47, 0:10:49]: I further affirm that [0:10:49, 0:10:53]: I further affirm that upon assumption of this office [0:10:53, 0:10:57]: Upon assumption of this office. I do not hold any unaccounted for public money. [0:10:58, 0:11:15]: I do not hold any unaccounted for public money. Doable and payable to the state? Doable and payable to the state. Any political subdivision of the state. Any political subdivision of the state. The city of Stockbridge. The city of Stockbridge. Or any authority thereof. [0:11:15, 0:11:18]: Or any authority thereof. Nor do I hold. [0:11:18, 0:11:29]: Nor do I hold any other office of trust? Any other office of trust? Of the government of the of the United States? Of the government of the United States? Of this state. [0:11:29, 0:11:30]: Of this state. [0:11:31, 0:11:32]: Or any foreign state. [0:11:32, 0:11:34]: Or any foreign state. [0:11:34, 0:11:36]: As prescribed by the law. [0:11:36, 0:11:40]: As prescribed by the law of the state of Georgia. Of the state of Georgia. [0:11:40, 0:11:42]: I solemnly affirm. [0:11:42, 0:11:51]: I solemnly affirm that I'm fully qualified. That I'm fully qualified. Under the Constitution. Under the Constitution. And the laws of the state. [0:11:51, 0:11:55]: And the laws of the state. To hold the office of downtown development authority board member. [0:11:56, 0:11:59]: To hold the office of the downtown development authority board member. [0:12:00, 0:12:01]: And that I [0:12:01, 0:12:16]: And that I will perform the duties. Will perform the duties of my office. Of the office. In the best excuse me, in the best interest. In the best interest of the city of Stockbridge. Of the city of Stockbridge. To the best of my ability. [0:12:16, 0:12:18]: To the best of my ability. Without fear. [0:12:19, 0:12:31]: Without fear. Favor. Favor. Affection. Affection. Reward or expectation thereof. Reward or expectation thereof. And this is also on the 14th day of February 2022. [0:12:32, 0:12:35]: On this fourteenth day, February, twenty twenty two. [0:12:35, 0:12:36]: Congratulations, sir. [0:12:36, 0:12:40]: Thank you, Mayor Peter. Do you have any comment you have any comments at all? [0:12:40, 0:12:50]: Just it's an honor and privilege to uh serve on this board and I look forward to a very uh productive year with uh Councilman Alexander's uh liaison leadership. Thank you all. [0:12:51, 0:13:11]: Okay, and I also want to make note that um that I'm very pleased and I know you're extremely happy that the Henry County Chamber of Commerce at the Ward Banquet, you were awarded a what's called a micro business of the year. Farm and beautiful. Congratulations to you, sir, and and to your business partner. Fantastic. It's great to bring that to the [0:13:11, 0:13:15]: downtown uh Stockbridge area. Uh we're so proud of you. [0:13:15, 0:13:20]: Yeah very appreciative. No problem, sir. Abstanding. Keep doing the great work. [0:13:20, 0:13:23]: Okay. You're welcome to stay as long as you like, sir. [0:13:23, 0:13:35]: Thank you. Okay. All righty. I have here for the ethics uh swearing in ethics board members, uh Miss Dallas and Miss Charmaine. [0:13:36, 0:13:37]: Are you both here? [0:13:38, 0:13:48]: Ms. Dallas is here. Yes, sir. Seeing Ms. Charmain online, Mayor. Okay, good deal. Ladies, if you don't mind, please uh please you raise your right hand. [0:13:51, 0:13:57]: All right, uh where's uh I mean I see Miss Dallas, Miss Charmaine, are you I don't see you physic. [0:13:59, 0:14:00]: She's not here, I guess. [0:14:01, 0:14:02]: Okay. [0:14:03, 0:14:06]: Let's go with forward with this. I appreciate your name. [0:14:06, 0:14:08]: I Callandra Dallas. [0:14:08, 0:14:09]: Board member? [0:14:10, 0:14:30]: Board member. Do solemnly swear and affirm. Do solemnly swear and affirm. That I will faithfully perform the duties. That I will faithfully perform the duties. Of the Stockbridge Ethics Board. Of the Stockbridge Ethics Board. Of the city of Stockbridge. Of the city of Stockbridge. And that it will. And that I will. [0:14:30, 0:14:31]: the best of my ability. [0:14:31, 0:14:44]: to the best of my ability. Support and defend. Support and defend. The charter thereof. The charter thereof. As well as the Constitution. As well as the Constitution. And the laws of the state of Georgia. [0:14:44, 0:14:46]: and the laws of the state of Georgia. [0:14:46, 0:14:48]: And the United States of America. [0:14:48, 0:14:50]: And the United States of America. [0:14:51, 0:14:52]: I further affirm that. [0:14:52, 0:15:05]: I further affirm that. Upon assumption of this office. Upon assumption of this office. I do not hold any unaccounted for. I do not hold any unaccounted for. Public money due. [0:15:05, 0:15:08]: public money due and payable to the state. [0:15:08, 0:15:10]: And payable to the state. [0:15:10, 0:15:12]: any political subdivision of the state. [0:15:12, 0:15:15]: any political subdivision of the state. [0:15:15, 0:15:20]: The city of Stockbridge? The city of Stockbridge. Or any authority thereof. [0:15:20, 0:15:23]: Or any authority thereof. Nor do I hold. [0:15:24, 0:15:44]: Nor do I hold any other office of trust, any other office of trust of the government of the United States, of the government of the United States, of this state, of this state, or any foreign state, or any foreign state, as prescribed by the law, as prescribed by the law of the state of Georgia. [0:15:43, 0:15:52]: State of Georgia. I'm a resident of the city of Stockbridge. I am a resident of the city of Stockbridge. And I should I and I shall remain a resident. [0:15:52, 0:15:59]: And I shall remain a resident. By serving on the ethics board. By serving on the ethics board. [0:15:59, 0:16:05]: I have not been convicted. I have not been convicted. Of any felonies involving [0:16:06, 0:16:10]: Of any felonies involving. Of any felonies involving. [0:16:10, 0:16:12]: uh moral turpitude. [0:16:12, 0:16:32]: Moral turpitude in this state. In this state, or any other state, or any other state. I will perform the duties. I will perform the duties. Of my office. Of my office. In the best interest. In the best interest. Of the city of Stockbridge. Of the city of Stockbridge. And to the best of my ability. [0:16:32, 0:16:38]: And to the best of my ability. Without fear. Without fear. Favor. [0:16:38, 0:16:57]: Favor. Affection. Affection. Reward. Reward. Expectation thereof. Or expectation thereof. On the 14th day of February, 2022. Today is the 14th day of February, 2022. Congratulations. Thank you. Do we have any comments that you want to make at this time? [0:16:57, 0:17:01]: Thank you so much. I appreciate it and I look forward to serving. [0:17:02, 0:17:05]: Fantastic. Great. You're welcome to stay as long as you like. [0:17:05, 0:17:06]: Thank you. [0:17:06, 0:17:07]: All right. [0:17:09, 0:17:16]: Mayor Pro Tem Thomas, sir. You're up next. Yes, sir. Okay, this is uh swearing in for the Main Street Advisory Board once again. [0:17:17, 0:17:18]: Raise your right hand, please. [0:17:20, 0:17:21]: K I state your name. [0:17:22, 0:17:25]: I Afonso Thomas. Board member. [0:17:25, 0:17:28]: Board member. Do solemnly swear and affirm. [0:17:29, 0:17:33]: Do solemnly swear and affirm that I will faithfully perform. [0:17:33, 0:17:45]: That I will faithfully perform the duties of the Main Street Advisory Board. The duties of the Main Street Advisory Board. Of the City of Stockbridge. Of the city of Stockbridge. And that I will. [0:17:46, 0:18:06]: And that I will to the best of my ability to the best of my ability support and defend support and defend the charter thereof the charter thereof as well as as well as the constitution the constitution and the laws of the state of Georgia and the laws of the state of Georgia. [0:18:06, 0:18:11]: And the United States of America. And the United States of America. I further affirm that. [0:18:12, 0:18:21]: I further affirm that upon assumption of this office. Upon assumption of this office, I do not hold any unaccountable for public money. [0:18:21, 0:18:25]: I do not hold any unaccounted for public money. [0:18:25, 0:18:26]: due and payable to the state. [0:18:27, 0:18:29]: due and payable to the state. [0:18:29, 0:18:31]: in the political subdivision of a state. [0:18:31, 0:18:34]: Any political subdivision of the state. [0:18:34, 0:18:39]: The city of Stockbridge. The city of Stockbridge. Or any authority thereof. [0:18:39, 0:18:41]: or any authority thereof. [0:18:42, 0:18:43]: Nor do I hold [0:18:43, 0:19:03]: Nor do I hold any other office of trust, any other office of trust of the government of the United States, of the government of the United States, of this state, of this state, or any foreign state, or any foreign state, as prescribed by the law, as prescribed by the law of the state of Georgia, of the state of Georgia. [0:19:03, 0:19:17]: of Georgia. I will perform the duties. I will perform the duties of my office. Of my office in the best interest of the city of Stockbridge. In the best interests of the city of Stockbridge. And to the best of my ability [0:19:17, 0:19:28]: And to the best of my ability. Without fear. Without fear. Favor. Favor. Affection. Affection. Reward. Reward. Expectation thereof. [0:19:29, 0:19:34]: Expectation thereof. On once again the 14th day of February 2022. [0:19:34, 0:19:38]: On the fourteenth day of February twenty twenty two. [0:19:38, 0:19:39]: Congratulations, sir. [0:19:39, 0:19:42]: Thank you. No problem. You have any comments, sir, at this time? [0:19:42, 0:19:51]: Well, as usual, uh I'm I'm delighted and excited um to be a part of the uh Main Street uh program. [0:19:51, 0:19:53]: Uh we have a great team. [0:19:53, 0:19:57]: Um we have great things um planned. [0:19:57, 0:20:10]: Uh I'm just glad to be a part of the uh downtown redevelopment. And as we all know, you know, there are some great things that are getting ready to happen and just glad to be uh [0:20:10, 0:20:15]: a part of this council and a be a part of this uh movement for the city of Stockbridge. [0:20:16, 0:20:23]: Fantastic. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. We now have Councilman Alexander. [0:20:24, 0:20:30]: Sir, if you raise your right hand, we'll swear you into the downtown development authority as the layers on. [0:20:31, 0:20:40]: I state your okay. I state your name. I Elton Alexander, board member. Do solemnly swear and affirm. Do solemnly swear and affirm. [0:20:40, 0:20:41]: That I will faithfully perform. [0:20:42, 0:20:46]: That I will faithfully for perform. The duties of the downtown Dilemma Authority. [0:20:47, 0:20:53]: The duties of the downtown development authority. Of the city of Stockbridge. Of the city of Stockbridge. And then I will. [0:20:53, 0:20:56]: And that I will to the best of my ability. [0:20:56, 0:20:57]: Support and defend. [0:20:58, 0:21:04]: Support and defend the charter thereof. As well as the Constitution? As well as the Constitution. [0:21:04, 0:21:11]: And laws of the state of Georgia. And laws of the state of Georgia. And the United States of America. United States of America. [0:21:11, 0:21:13]: I further affirm. [0:21:13, 0:21:14]: No further for. [0:21:14, 0:21:16]: Upon assumption of this office. [0:21:17, 0:21:20]: Upon assumption of this office? I do not hold any. [0:21:21, 0:21:24]: I do not hold any. Unacounted for public money. [0:21:24, 0:21:44]: Una counted for public money. Do unpayable to the state. Do unpayable to the state. Any political subdivision of the state. Any political subdivision of the state? The city of Startbridge. The city of Startbridge. Any authority thereof? Any authority thereof? Nor do I hold. Nor do I hold. Any other office of trust? Any other [0:21:44, 0:21:50]: of the office of trust. The government of the United States. The government of the United States. Of this state. [0:21:50, 0:21:56]: Of this state or any foreign state. Or any foreign state. [0:21:57, 0:22:03]: As as prescribed by the laws. Of the state of Georgia. Of the state of Georgia. I solemnly affirm. [0:22:03, 0:22:09]: I solemnly affirm that I will faithfully that I am fa excuse me that I'm fully qualified. [0:22:09, 0:22:19]: Then I'm fully qualified. Under the constitution. Under the constitution. And the laws of the state. And the laws of the state. The whole office, a downtown Delma Authority Board Member. [0:22:19, 0:22:23]: Hold the Office of Downtown Development Authority Board Member. [0:22:23, 0:22:24]: And that I [0:22:24, 0:22:37]: And that I will perform the duties will perform the duties of my office of my office in the best interest in the best interest of the city of Stockbridge to the best of my ability. [0:22:37, 0:22:46]: To the best of my ability. Without fear. Without fear. Favor. Favor. Affection. Affection. Reward or expectation thereof. [0:22:46, 0:22:57]: reward or expectation thereof. Once again the 14th day of February 2022. Gradually this 14th day of February 2022. All right. So you have any comments at all, sir? [0:22:58, 0:23:00]: I do. I just want to um [0:23:00, 0:23:09]: Uh reiterate that it is a great time to be a citizen of the city of Stockbridge with so much opportunity available to us. [0:23:09, 0:23:12]: Understanding that everything that we're doing [0:23:12, 0:23:15]: And everything that we say at this meeting. [0:23:15, 0:23:27]: is being publicly recorded and pronounced to the world. Understand that we have business people watching, waiting, and preparing to locate uh in every sector of the city. [0:23:27, 0:23:33]: And they watch good governance to make sure that we're doing what's necessary to make um [0:23:33, 0:23:39]: this community move forward. One of those uh charges that they watch is the development [0:23:39, 0:23:51]: uh downtown development authority. I'm anxious to see what we can do with the uh revolving loan fund and and assisting new businesses coming to the city. That's something that we're gonna look into. [0:23:51, 0:23:55]: And I'm very excited that we have been contacted by two restaurant providers. [0:23:55, 0:24:15]: uh about bringing restaurants to downtown Stockbridge. The excitement is at an all-time high. Why is the excitement at an all-time high? Because we believed in ourselves and we invested$20 million in our amphitheater downtown. When they when you step forward and you believe in yourself and you invest in yourself first. [0:24:15, 0:24:20]: than others believe in you. That's what's going on right now. [0:24:20, 0:24:22]: And understand the amphitheater is leading. [0:24:23, 0:24:23]: The way [0:24:24, 0:24:26]: And that is our calling card right now. [0:24:26, 0:24:40]: And everything we do say or trust in that particular building will dictate the future success uh of downtown Stockbridge along with the Cultural Arts Center uh that we're moving forward with as well. It's a great time. [0:24:40, 0:24:44]: And if you are paying attention to this and you're watching this. [0:24:44, 0:24:47]: Call us. Stockbridge is open for business. [0:24:47, 0:24:49]: And we want it to in our in our community. [0:24:50, 0:24:57]: Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. And I see that Mr. Swaggard has now joined us. Uh hey Bob, if you can unmute yourself, I'll swear you in. [0:25:01, 0:25:12]: Raise your hand. I was I was yes, sir. I was here earlier. Uh I must have some technical difficulty. I could see you, but you couldn't hear me. So I do apologize for no problem. No problem. We'll take care of it now. Raise your right hand, please, sir. [0:25:13, 0:25:17]: And uh and uh repeat after me. I state your name. [0:25:17, 0:25:19]: I, Robert Swikert, [0:25:20, 0:25:20]: Board member. [0:25:21, 0:25:22]: Board member [0:25:22, 0:25:23]: You solemnly swear and affirm. [0:25:24, 0:25:25]: You solemnly swear and affirm. [0:25:25, 0:25:27]: That I will faithfully perform. [0:25:27, 0:25:31]: That I will faithfully perform the duties of the downtown dilemma authority. [0:25:32, 0:25:34]: The duties of the downtown development authority are [0:25:34, 0:25:38]: Of the city of Stockbridge. Of the city of Stockbridge. And then I will. [0:25:38, 0:25:39]: And then I will. [0:25:39, 0:25:40]: To the best of my ability. [0:25:41, 0:25:42]: To the best of my ability. [0:25:42, 0:25:43]: Important defend. [0:25:44, 0:25:45]: Support and defend. [0:25:45, 0:25:46]: The charter thereof. [0:25:46, 0:25:51]: The charter thereof. As well as the constitution. As well as the constitution. [0:25:51, 0:25:53]: And the laws of the state of Georgia? [0:25:53, 0:25:56]: And the laws of the state of Georgia, the United States of America. [0:25:56, 0:25:59]: In the United States of America. I further affirm. [0:25:59, 0:26:03]: I further affirm that upon assumption of this office [0:26:03, 0:26:06]: That upon assumption of this office, I do not hold any [0:26:07, 0:26:08]: I do not hold any. [0:26:08, 0:26:10]: Una counted for public money? [0:26:10, 0:26:12]: unaccounted for public money. [0:26:12, 0:26:14]: doing payable to the state. [0:26:14, 0:26:24]: Payable to the state. Any political subdivision of the state. Any political subdivision of the state. The city of Stockbridge. The city of Stockbridge. Any authority thereof. [0:26:25, 0:26:26]: Or any authority thereof. [0:26:26, 0:26:27]: Nor do I hold. [0:26:28, 0:26:29]: Nor do I hold. [0:26:29, 0:26:30]: Any other office of trust? [0:26:31, 0:26:33]: Any other office of trust? Of the government? [0:26:34, 0:26:44]: Of the government of the United States. Of the government of the United States. Of this state. Of this state. Or any foreign state. Or any foreign state. As prescribed by the law. [0:26:45, 0:26:48]: As prescribed by the law of the state of Georgia. Of the state of Georgia. [0:26:49, 0:26:50]: I solemnly affirm [0:26:50, 0:26:52]: I solemnly affirm. [0:26:52, 0:26:55]: That I'm faithful excuse me, that I'm fully qualified. [0:26:55, 0:27:01]: That I'm fully qualified. Under the Constitution. Under the Constitution. And the laws of the state. [0:27:01, 0:27:07]: And the laws of the state. Hold the office. Of downtown Dilemma Authority Board Member. [0:27:07, 0:27:09]: Of Downtown Development Authority Board Member. [0:27:10, 0:27:11]: And that it will perform. [0:27:11, 0:27:15]: And I will perform. Duties of my office. Duties of the office. [0:27:16, 0:27:18]: In my in the best interest of the city of Stockbridge. [0:27:19, 0:27:22]: In the best interests of the city of Stockbridge. The best of my ability. [0:27:23, 0:27:25]: To the best of my ability. Without fear. [0:27:25, 0:27:27]: Without fear, favor. [0:27:27, 0:27:31]: Favor. Affection. Affection. Reward. [0:27:31, 0:27:33]: Reward or expectation thereof. [0:27:34, 0:27:36]: Or expect in any expectation thereof. [0:27:36, 0:27:39]: And this is the 14th day of February, 2022. [0:27:40, 0:27:43]: This is the fourteenth day of February, twenty twenty two. [0:27:43, 0:27:44]: Congratulations, sir. [0:27:45, 0:27:47]: Thank you, sir. No problem. Do you have any comments at all? [0:27:48, 0:27:55]: I'm I've enjoyed working with the other uh DDA board members. I've enjoyed working with Councilwoman Gantt. [0:27:55, 0:27:59]: And I look forward to working with uh council member b uh Alexander. [0:28:00, 0:28:04]: Uh I think we got a good team and I think there Stockbridge I agree with [0:28:04, 0:28:07]: Councilman Alexander, I think Stockwich has a lot of [0:28:08, 0:28:08]: Oh. [0:28:08, 0:28:10]: Potential, a lot of opportunity. [0:28:11, 0:28:13]: And I look forward to working with everyone to uh [0:28:14, 0:28:17]: to to continue the the great progress that's already started. [0:28:18, 0:28:22]: Fantastic. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. You can stay as long as you like, by the way. Thank you, sir. [0:28:22, 0:28:42]: All right. I have a couple of pro I have three proclamations here that I need to read. And the first one is to a hometown hero right here in Stockbridge and attended Dutchdown High School. And um, and I oh, I believe I see his his mother, Mrs. Watt or up there, Mrs. Anderson. Okay, fantastic. Glad to see you, ma'am. All right, and this is a proclamation. [0:28:42, 0:29:02]: Whereas William William Anderson Jr., an American college football outside linebacker for the University of Alabama Crimson Tide and a proud member of the 2020 Alabama Crimson Tide National Championship football team, and whereas Will Anderson Jr., consistent and dominating seasons highlighted by a FB. [0:29:02, 0:29:22]: B.S. best 17.5 sacks and 34.5 tackles for loss, have him on the cusp of becoming a number one pick in the 2023 NFL draft at 6'4, 243 pounds, the sport's most unstoppable force. And whereas Will Anderson Jr., a Stockbridge native and alumni of [0:29:22, 0:29:42]: Dutchdown High School led the Bulldogs to the first region title in the school's 15-year history, was a consensus four-star prospect for all major outlets, rated top 10 player in the state of Georgia, Atlanta Journal Constitution Super 11, all-county defensive player of the year, and was selected to play in All-American Bowl in San Antonio, Texas. [0:29:42, 0:30:02]: Just to name a few. Whereas Will Anderson Jr., the Dutchtown grad and Alabama star earned the title of Southeastern Conference Defensive Player of the Year in 2021 and was named the winner of the Bronco Nagarski Trophy, an award presented to the top defensive player in college football. Whereas, in addition to his leadership on the field, [0:30:02, 0:30:22]: Will Anderson Jr. was named one of the four permanent captains by his teammates in 2021 and named Alabama's most inspiring player given to the player who affects the whole team by his attitude as well as his performance. And now therefore I, Anthony S. Ford, by virtue of authority vested in me as the mayor of the city of Star British, Georgia, and on behalf of city council members. [0:30:22, 0:30:42]: Now Alexander, Alana Barber, John Blount, Nakisha Gantt and Afonso Thomas, who hereby congratulate you for your amazing talents and I collects both on and off the field. You have made the city of Stockbridge so proud. We have made Dutchdown High School family proud. We pray for your continued success and wish you all the best in your future endeavors. And witness thereof, I have [0:30:42, 0:31:02]: hereunto set my hand on the great seal the city of starbridge georgia the 14th day of february the year of our lord 2022 congratulations will and mrs anderson anderson congratulations and i have to admit i am a bama fan and i've i've been watching them at dutchtown and i'll keep pulling for them next year as well god bless them miss anderson [0:31:02, 0:31:06]: you you have you can unmute yourself and you have some comments ma'am go ahead go right here please [0:31:06, 0:31:26]: All right, thank you. With Mayor Ford, City Councilman and Administration, thank you all so much for this honor. Um, even right now, Will is in training. Um, I forgot that Alabama's an hour behind us, so he's thinking six o'clock his time. So I have to apologize to him for that as well. Uh, but training started back up today. [0:31:26, 0:31:46]: But on behalf of our family, we say thank you. Thank you for honoring Will's hard work, his success thus far in college. And we look forward to what God is going to continue to do in his life. Also, we thank you all because we are proud citizens of Stockbridge for 10 years. [0:31:46, 0:32:06]: We love our city. We love what's happening in our city. And we thank you all very, very much to Yolanda, who's uh sparked the fire, and most of us as regular citizens to get involved with our city. And Mayor Ford, I mean, we've been together since Dutchtown. So it's it's just [0:32:06, 0:32:26]: It's it's it's such a great honor. And I just want to thank you all so, so much. Um, being at Alabama is a little hard because you know he doesn't really get that type of recognition in a in another city and state. So to have our own city recognize him, it just means the world to us. And thank you guys so much and continue to be blessed. [0:32:26, 0:32:41]: Thank you very much. I appreciate it. And uh we look forward to I know it's gonna do great things and I'm pretty sure this will not be the last time that we honor the sun. Okay. God bless you. As long as you like, okay. All right, thank you. [0:32:42, 0:32:43]: Yeah, yes, sir. [0:32:43, 0:32:49]: Might we consider making a special exception if he's available a little bit later in the meeting? [0:32:50, 0:33:10]: Well, if we could if we can do it, I mean it's possible we can do that. If he if he's able to do that, I I he's he's training, so I don't know if he'll be able to break away. His mother just said he's he started the first day of training. So I'm pretty sure there'll be other times we'll be able to honor Will Anderson. I'm pretty sure that uh occur. Absolutely, mayor for and I will I'm looking forward to him being able to see. [0:33:10, 0:33:17]: the recording and um hopefully I can get I can get him to where you all can meet meet him personally too as well. [0:33:17, 0:33:37]: Okay, thank you very much. Appreciate it. All right. Thank you all. Thank you. Okay. Uh and what I have next is as uh another proclamation. And uh Representative Demetrius Douglas, who was a proud bulldog, joined the bulldog and linebacker when he played in college. And um this is uh for him and and to do [0:33:37, 0:33:57]: To receive this and get this. And I tell you, we're so we're so proud of you too, sir, for representing us and as a representative and also the Henry County delegation. But I know that uh as a as a linebacker, I know you're very proud of the Georgia Bulldogs. So this is a proclamation uh from this uh myself and the city council and congratulating the University of Georgia on a 2022 NC. [0:33:57, 0:34:10]: CAA Football National Championship, whereas on Monday, January 10th, 2022, the Georgia Bulldogs defeated Alabama McCrianson tied in the college football playoff national championship by a score of 33 to 18. [0:34:10, 0:34:26]: And whereas the win was the Georgia Bulldogs' first college football title since 1980 and third in the program's history, whereas the win gives Georgia head coach Kirby Smart his first victory against Alabama head coach Nick Saban, ending a four-game losing streak against his former mentor. [0:34:27, 0:34:47]: Whereas in the great the it's a great day in a and dog to be a dog for Georgia fans everywhere as they celebrate the Georgia Bulldogs winning their first national championship in more than 40 years. Now, therefore, I, Anthony S. Ford, by virtue of authority, vested in me as the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. And on behalf of the city council members Elton Alexander, Yolanda Barber, John Blount. [0:34:47, 0:34:58]: Lakeisha Gantt and Afonso Thomas, who hereby proclaim February 14, 2022 as the University of Georgia Bulldogs National Championship Day in the great city of Stockbridge, Georgia. Go Dogs. [0:34:58, 0:35:18]: And whereas a witness where there whereof I have I have into excuse me here unto set my hand on the 14th day of February 2022 that and have calls to the official seal, the great city of Stockbridge, Georgia, where I assigned this along with the uh Vanessa Holliday. Congratulations, uh Dog Nation, Demetrius Douglas. [0:35:18, 0:35:27]: Representative Douglass, congratulations to you too, sir. And we're working out to get this proclamation to you, sir, as well. Uh, what kind of comments? What kind of comments, sir? The floor is yours. [0:35:27, 0:35:32]: Oh man, uh first of all I want to thank you, Mayor, along with the city council. [0:35:32, 0:35:52]: for executing this uh proclamation. Um it's been well overdue. I think 41 years. We can't wait. I don't think none of us will be around here uh and working for the city in 41 years. So it was well overdue and I just want to thank each one of you. I see a lot of familiar faces that's been on tonight. [0:35:52, 0:35:57]: Uh as I sit back and and uh just got back from the Capitol about an hour ago. [0:35:57, 0:36:13]: I see a lot of familiar faces to the uh the boards, the different boards, uh, some of my classmates, uh some of the people that I've known for over 30 years. It is a pleasure that they're getting involved in in city and state and local government. [0:36:14, 0:36:19]: Uh this speaks volumes uh about the heart that they have to serve. [0:36:19, 0:36:30]: each and every day. And so for you guys that I work well with, our city council, local city council, I'd like to thank thank you guys for just the effort. [0:36:30, 0:36:38]: That you've put forth to bring this city to the next level. And I'm I'm looking forward to it, and whatever I can do. [0:36:39, 0:36:42]: Uh to move and help you guys do what you need to do. [0:36:42, 0:36:46]: uh to make your job better just let me know you know I have a open door policy. [0:36:47, 0:36:48]: And um [0:36:48, 0:37:08]: It's all it everything works together for those who believe and do the work for people that are less fortunate who don't have a voice uh in the community. And please remember, you are their voice. And so just please respect that in your office uh each and every day that people who don't have a voice, you're their voice. [0:37:08, 0:37:14]: voice. And so when we're making decisions that it's going to affect our county and our state. [0:37:14, 0:37:16]: uh locally in our city. [0:37:16, 0:37:22]: Please be reminded of that when we make our decisions, it's not about us, but it's all about. [0:37:22, 0:37:26]: service. And thank you for this approximation. I want to take up much of your time. [0:37:26, 0:37:35]: But I see a lot of familiar faces. Uh see a new, we got we got new cities management, baby. Hey, hey, what's going on? Y'all doing great things. I love it, man. I love it. [0:37:35, 0:37:36]: But thanks again. [0:37:37, 0:37:48]: You're welcome, sir. And Representative Douglass, of course, you can stay as long as you like, sir. It's clearly up to you. But thank you. We'll work out getting this to you as well. Gonna get this to you as well, the actual proclamation itself. Okay. All right. Thank you. Thank you, sir. [0:37:49, 0:37:50]: Thank you. Thank you, Preacher. [0:37:51, 0:37:52]: Watch out now. [0:37:54, 0:37:57]: Hang around hang around for this next item. [0:37:57, 0:38:02]: Uh-oh, I will. I'm gonna stay off just because you said that. [0:38:02, 0:38:08]: My next proclamation is is uh from the course myself and the city council and deals with Black History Month. [0:38:08, 0:38:12]: Whereas in in in nineteen fifteen, Doctor Carter Goodwin Woodson [0:38:13, 0:38:33]: Noted black scholar and son of former slaves founded the Association of Study of Negro Life and History, which was later renamed Association for the Study of African-American Life and History, ASAL ASALH. And whereas in 1976, as part of the Nation's Bicentennial, Black History Week was expanded to become established. [0:38:33, 0:38:37]: established as Black History Month and is now celebrated all over North America. [0:38:37, 0:38:57]: Whereas each February, National Black History Month, serves as both a celebration and powerful reminder that Black history is American history, black culture is American culture, and black stories are essential to the ongoing story of America. Our faults, our struggles, our progress, and our aspirations. And whereas our nation was founded on an idea. [0:38:57, 0:39:17]: ID that all of us are created equal and deserve to be treated with equal dignity throughout our lives. It is a promise we have never filled, excuse me, never fully lived up to, but one that we have never ever walked away from. And whereas the observance of Black History Month calls our next [0:39:17, 0:39:37]: Nation's attention to the continued need to battle racism and to build a society that lives up to its democratic ideals. Now for now, therefore, I, Anthony S. Ford, by virtue of authority, invested in me as a mayor of City of Stockbridge, Georgia. And on behalf of City Council members Elton Alexander, London Barber, John Blount, Lakeisha Gantt and Afonso Thomas. [0:39:37, 0:39:57]: do hereby urge all citizens to celebrate our diverse heritage and culture and continue our efforts to create a world that's more just, peaceful, and prosperous for all. In witness thereof I have hereunto sent my hand and the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia on the 14th day of February of our year of our Lord 2022. [0:39:57, 0:40:03]: and I signed the proclamation along with our Club Vanessa holiday. Outstanding. Okay. [0:40:03, 0:40:04]: Fantastic. [0:40:05, 0:40:08]: And uh I mean go ahead, sir, please. [0:40:09, 0:40:09]: Um [0:40:10, 0:40:13]: As you all know, this is my eleventh. [0:40:14, 0:40:18]: Annual African American Heritage Celebration. [0:40:18, 0:40:22]: Uh it is a virtual celebration that will air. [0:40:23, 0:40:27]: Uh February the twenty-sixth at four PM [0:40:28, 0:40:31]: Um you could go to Facebook. [0:40:32, 0:40:35]: At Starkbridge City Hall. [0:40:35, 0:40:37]: uh to to join us [0:40:38, 0:40:41]: Uh this year we are [0:40:41, 0:40:44]: celebrated where we are honoring [0:40:44, 0:40:45]: The past. [0:40:46, 0:40:48]: We are celebrating. [0:40:48, 0:40:49]: The present [0:40:50, 0:40:52]: And we are inspiring [0:40:52, 0:40:53]: The future. [0:40:54, 0:40:56]: Uh Revan [0:40:56, 0:40:57]: Pastor [0:40:58, 0:41:00]: Uh Timothy J. McBride. [0:41:01, 0:41:07]: um is the keynote speaker from Tabernacle of Praise Church International. [0:41:07, 0:41:18]: Um, I'm sure many of you are familiar with his teaching. So we look forward to the the message that he is going to bring and we are [0:41:18, 0:41:26]: Uh working as we speak to make sure that uh we do what we need to do to continue to. [0:41:26, 0:41:45]: tell our story of of African Americans plight uh over the last 400 years. So I encourage all of you to um join us. And while I do have the opportunity, I want to congratulate uh Councilwoman um Barber. [0:41:46, 0:41:48]: The Heritage Committee. [0:41:48, 0:41:50]: has selected her to receive [0:41:50, 0:41:52]: The good governess. [0:41:52, 0:42:03]: award um in this uh 2022 heritage year. So congratulations to uh Councilwoman Barber. [0:42:04, 0:42:07]: Okay, fantastic. Congratulations to you on that. [0:42:07, 0:42:11]: I'll stand. I would and I would like to get a copy of that proclamation if you don't mind. [0:42:12, 0:42:15]: No, no, no, not at all. Sir, you'll you'll get it. No problem. We can do that easily. [0:42:16, 0:42:19]: Okay. On that note, uh we'll move on to new business. [0:42:20, 0:42:29]: Council consideration to approve ratification of the resolution supporting the annexation of unincorporated land. Presented by Mr Gardner, sir, please. [0:42:35, 0:42:38]: Good evening, Mayor, Council members. [0:42:38, 0:42:41]: I'm just gonna read the first section from this. I think it's [0:42:41, 0:42:50]: the most applicable of of of the resolution unless it's required to read the whole thing into all into the record, um, Mayor. [0:42:50, 0:43:08]: Well, I don't uh no no it's not uh necessarily to read the whole thing, but no problem, sir. Go ahead, please. All right. So the city of Stockbridge is proud to unanimously support legislation put forward by the Henry County legislative delegation uh to annex unincorporated lands into the city of Stockbridge. The City of Stockbridge is proud to be [0:43:10, 0:43:26]: to have such honorable advocates working for citizens and offering its support to this proposal set forth in the legislation. And as you know, this is this comes to us as our our um support for um the Henry County delegation. [0:43:26, 0:43:30]: looking to close some gaps and add some additional areas to the city. [0:43:30, 0:43:32]: Um, some of it through the legislative process. [0:43:34, 0:43:34]: Thank you, sir. [0:43:35, 0:43:43]: All right, council, you heard that uh rectif rectifying the the the resolution and so is there a motion to uh to accept this resolution? [0:43:44, 0:43:50]: Okay, Ms. Ms. Alexander, all right. [0:43:51, 0:43:59]: I did want to ask of uh Representative Douglass if he had anything to say about uh what was coming forward since he's uh uh he's on the call. [0:44:00, 0:44:03]: And then I will certainly want to make the motion to move forward. [0:44:04, 0:44:06]: Okay, Representative Douglas, uh, do you have any comments, sir? [0:44:12, 0:44:13]: No, I don't. [0:44:13, 0:44:16]: Okay. Oh thank you, sir. Appreciate it. No, every everything is fine. [0:44:17, 0:44:17]: All right. [0:44:18, 0:44:20]: Fantastic, sir. Go ahead, Mr. Alexander. [0:44:20, 0:44:23]: Yeah, I'd like to make a motion to move forward with this uh [0:44:24, 0:44:25]: Resolution. [0:44:25, 0:44:28]: Supporting uh the legislature. This is long overdue. [0:44:28, 0:44:30]: For us to be able to close these holes in our city. [0:44:31, 0:44:32]: And to be able to [0:44:32, 0:44:34]: Uh make sure to make sure that the city [0:44:34, 0:44:37]: uh is moving forward in the right direction. [0:44:37, 0:44:40]: Uh coming together. It certainly will help out. [0:44:40, 0:44:42]: Uh with our new police department moving forward. [0:44:42, 0:44:46]: Making sure that uh those gaps are closed and there's no confusion. [0:44:46, 0:44:50]: uh in uh when service is needed and dispatched and who's responsible. [0:44:51, 0:44:52]: A second. [0:44:52, 0:44:53]: Ms. Barber second that. [0:44:54, 0:44:59]: Okay, if any further discussion? And if not, all in favor of the resolution please indicate. [0:45:00, 0:45:05]: All right. And I see a unanimous decision. Outstanding. Appreciate it. Okay. Thank you very much. [0:45:07, 0:45:13]: Council consideration to approve the vaccination incentive program. Uh Ms. Wheeler, please. [0:45:17, 0:45:18]: Ms. Renee Wheeler? [0:45:19, 0:45:22]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Good evening. [0:45:26, 0:45:29]: Staff is recommending that the [0:45:29, 0:45:30]: elected body [0:45:30, 0:45:33]: Recommend utilizing funds from the ARPA funds. [0:45:34, 0:45:35]: To [0:45:35, 0:45:37]: incentivize employees to [0:45:38, 0:45:38]: Uh [0:45:39, 0:45:42]: Be a part of the vaccination incentive program. [0:45:42, 0:45:49]: The purpose of this vaccination incentive program is to increase the number of employees who are unvaccinated. [0:45:49, 0:45:52]: or have only received one vaccination. [0:45:52, 0:45:55]: The funds will be used to provide an incentive to employees [0:45:55, 0:45:57]: To get the vaccination. [0:45:57, 0:45:58]: Vaccine. [0:45:58, 0:46:00]: And keep themselves and others safe. [0:46:01, 0:46:04]: There are five tiers to the vaccination program. [0:46:05, 0:46:09]: Тір вон іф'я фулини в Booster between January first. [0:46:09, 0:46:11]: 2021. [0:46:11, 0:46:13]: to January first, twenty twenty two. [0:46:13, 0:46:16]: There'll be a one thousand dollar and s um [0:46:16, 0:46:17]: Incentive paid. [0:46:18, 0:46:23]: Tier two received two vaccinated shots with no booster is five hundred dollars. [0:46:24, 0:46:28]: If you have received one vaccinated shot, it's two hundred and fifty dollars. [0:46:29, 0:46:37]: Tier four is fully vaccinated with two shots before April first, twenty twenty-two, will be received five hundred dollars. [0:46:37, 0:46:41]: And if tier five received a booster shot by the end of April. [0:46:42, 0:46:43]: twenty twenty two. [0:46:43, 0:46:45]: Well, we see five hundred dollars. [0:46:45, 0:46:50]: Employees who have been vaccinated will have to present their card to human resources. [0:46:50, 0:46:52]: to participate in this program. [0:46:52, 0:47:00]: Those who choose to not be vaccinated on the medical or religious reasons will not be able to participate in the program. [0:47:01, 0:47:04]: And if any employee presents a false vaccination card. [0:47:04, 0:47:06]: They were subject to federal prosecution. [0:47:06, 0:47:09]: It is a federal crime to make or use any materially false [0:47:10, 0:47:13]: writing in any matter involving a health care benefit program. [0:47:13, 0:47:16]: We're asking the council to approve this program. [0:47:17, 0:47:19]: Outstanding. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [0:47:21, 0:47:23]: Uh thank you, Mayor. Um [0:47:24, 0:47:27]: Mayor when you was brought up, I guess um [0:47:27, 0:47:29]: Approximately two months ago. [0:47:30, 0:47:30]: When um [0:47:31, 0:47:34]: When I brought it up, the thing that I was looking at is the cost of living. [0:47:35, 0:47:36]: Uh, that has gone up. [0:47:37, 0:47:41]: Uh even during the midst of this pandemic, uh fuel prices. [0:47:41, 0:47:43]: Healthcare is going up. [0:47:44, 0:47:46]: Uh, there are so many um [0:47:47, 0:47:48]: There's so many [0:47:48, 0:47:51]: financial burdens that have been put on families. [0:47:51, 0:47:54]: And I was looking at our Stockbridge family as a whole. [0:47:55, 0:48:01]: instead of incentive program, which was initially put out for from what I was suggesting. [0:48:02, 0:48:10]: Um, I I think uh incentive program, not just for vaccination, but just how the cost of living for each employee has gone up. [0:48:11, 0:48:12]: Um, I'm not [0:48:13, 0:48:26]: Um, I I wasn't looking for us to do an incentive program,$1,000 here for this and this and that. I was looking at maybe$500 or more just across the board because not just vaccinations. [0:48:26, 0:48:36]: But just the hardship that each family of the city of Stockbridge is taking in the midst of this in the midst of uh this inflation and and and the high cost of fuel, food. [0:48:36, 0:48:38]: Health care, everything that's going on. [0:48:39, 0:48:44]: Uh I thought the expenditure I was hoping that the expenditure to those of those funds would not be [0:48:45, 0:48:48]: uh uh upon completion of [0:48:48, 0:48:56]: Of anything but them being a uh uh uh in the midst of a pandemic being an employee of the city of Stockbridge and we're able to [0:48:56, 0:49:01]: um actually help out in those areas, even those that uh um [0:49:02, 0:49:03]: That of this [0:49:03, 0:49:22]: Every employee needs something uh that we have an opportunity to give to employees right now. I don't want to miss that opportunity to help families uh in the midst of what's going on financially and with this inflation and the cost of living, food, fuel, everything that's going up. So I didn't I wasn't [0:49:22, 0:49:24]: My whole intention was not [0:49:24, 0:49:26]: And essential program. [0:49:26, 0:49:29]: But to give a um [0:49:30, 0:49:33]: And send up a money to, if you will. [0:49:33, 0:49:36]: Each and every employee uh one set amount. [0:49:38, 0:49:41]: Okay, uh Mr Anzana, stand by a second. Miss Wheeler, go ahead, please. [0:49:41, 0:49:45]: Um to answer Mr. Blount's question, um [0:49:45, 0:49:48]: We have i initiated a cost of living. [0:49:48, 0:49:52]: To all employees as of January first of twenty twenty two. [0:49:53, 0:49:57]: So those employees have received a three percent cost of living increase. [0:49:58, 0:49:58]: Um [0:50:01, 0:50:03]: To answer your question. [0:50:04, 0:50:07]: Uh uh thank you for that, Ms. Wheeler, as a follow up to what you just said. [0:50:08, 0:50:11]: Their cost of living increases done every year. [0:50:12, 0:50:13]: To my understanding. [0:50:13, 0:50:19]: I'm I'm talking about the city going up and ab up and above what we're able to do now with offer funding. [0:50:20, 0:50:25]: Um, I understand the incentive that we're giving employees every year. [0:50:25, 0:50:28]: But what's happening now is not commonplace. [0:50:29, 0:50:42]: What's going on with the fuel, food, and and and uh uh medical bills and everything right now is not common place. So a common incentive every year is not what I was looking at. It was I was looking at something across the board. But I thank you for that information. [0:50:43, 0:50:47]: I don't think we can use ARPA funds for that matter, sir. [0:50:47, 0:50:51]: On the app ARPA funds are um based on what I read up [0:50:52, 0:50:54]: That they have to be [0:50:54, 0:50:56]: Та специфики у [0:50:57, 0:50:58]: uh for [0:50:59, 0:51:02]: This type of program that we're putting forth. [0:51:02, 0:51:06]: We could not use the funds as far as a cost of living. [0:51:06, 0:51:09]: Um, increase across the board to the employees. [0:51:10, 0:51:12]: When looking at the conditions that [0:51:12, 0:51:15]: Um state and local government can utilize the funds for. [0:51:16, 0:51:16]: Okay. [0:51:17, 0:51:23]: So is that John or Mr. Gardner can elaborate a little bit more on that? [0:51:23, 0:51:25]: St stand by please. Mr. Alexander, go ahead, please. [0:51:26, 0:51:36]: Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Uh these are covert related uh funds that were received and any use of those funds would have to be uh in accordance with uh [0:51:36, 0:51:39]: You know, uh some type of covert. [0:51:39, 0:51:40]: relief program. So [0:51:40, 0:51:43]: Obviously if you're encouraging people to get [0:51:43, 0:51:47]: A uh bo a booster or you're encouraging them to get [0:51:47, 0:51:50]: vaccinated that would be in accordance to make sure legally [0:51:51, 0:51:53]: uh we're doing the right thing in terms of um [0:51:54, 0:51:55]: Passing the money. [0:51:56, 0:51:59]: Uh, on to the employees. I certainly want to do everything that we can legally. [0:52:00, 0:52:04]: to be able to provide the best wages possible. So I'm in agreement. [0:52:04, 0:52:07]: Uh with Mr. Blount if there's any other pot. [0:52:07, 0:52:08]: That we might be able to [0:52:09, 0:52:22]: uh reward employees out of to uh for their general service. Certainly we will wanna look into that uh as well. But these ARPA funds, I think we certainly need to make sure that we're doing those in accordance with what [0:52:23, 0:52:23]: Um [0:52:24, 0:52:26]: The the rules and regulations. [0:52:27, 0:52:30]: or or or require. So that th those are my comments. [0:52:30, 0:52:31]: Mr Gardner, please go ahead. [0:52:32, 0:52:38]: Uh very quickly, Mayor, um and uh Ms. Renee I think is correct, as well as Councilman Alexander. [0:52:38, 0:52:43]: Um the way the opera laws were set up was you had to designate [0:52:43, 0:52:54]: your employees as critical. Remember, you go back to what happened in 2020 where critical employees were allowed to move around, where non-critical employees weren't. [0:52:54, 0:53:14]: There were procedures that some cities put in place and one of them was us where we pretty much designated all of our employees as critical. Um to a great degree because we understood that to support police you need administrative staff, to support fire, you need administrative staff, to um support sanitation um in the midst of COVID, what was going on. And that was the way we [0:53:14, 0:53:25]: we were able to do it, um, as well as public safety would have been one, but obviously we didn't have a public safety here. But um we'll look back because I know that there's been some amendments. [0:53:25, 0:53:29]: made to the rules and regulations governing APA funds. [0:53:30, 0:53:31]: And if that provision exists. [0:53:31, 0:53:36]: exists or you know, been amended to allow for us to be able to do that. [0:53:36, 0:53:40]: Um, we'll go ahead and bring that presentation to you guys. [0:53:40, 0:53:41]: In earnest. [0:53:41, 0:53:44]: But as far as I know, you you just can't generally do it. [0:53:45, 0:53:48]: Um, unless you designated those your your staff as such. [0:53:50, 0:53:50]: Mm. [0:53:50, 0:53:52]: Mr. Blount, do you have another comment? [0:53:52, 0:54:04]: Mayor, and forgive me, I I know that we only have like tw two times to speak, but I just want to say that I would ask that you all would go back and look at that because I've seen other cities that have contacted me. [0:54:04, 0:54:16]: that are doing that, uh, that have looked at uh looked at how do you do this and facilitate across the board with offer funding. And that way it it helps us to not [0:54:16, 0:54:18]: Going to [0:54:18, 0:54:26]: breaking these things down and become a little convoluted with how we distribute the funds. But if we could do something across the board, I think that would help. [0:54:26, 0:54:30]: each and every employee. And I think that that incentive itself is across the board. [0:54:31, 0:54:40]: Would keep us in a place where we are doing something for every each and every employee uh during during these times right now. So I I would ask that. [0:54:40, 0:54:50]: And I because because it's being prolonged so long, I would hope I would would have hoped that these uh things would have been looked into now to by now, but uh [0:54:50, 0:55:04]: Uh is there any cities that are doing it, Miss Wheeler, that we could have contacted? I think that one city that just not long ago did it was was Douglasville. How how you know how these how are certain cities that are con and I don't want to go through all the cities because I don't want to [0:55:04, 0:55:06]: put everybody on blast, but what I'm saying is that [0:55:07, 0:55:10]: There has to be some kind of formula in place. [0:55:11, 0:55:20]: beyond what we have now that that is working for these other cities that could actually sit work with the city of Stockbridge. That's that's my claim and I would hope that [0:55:21, 0:55:25]: Um our city manager, Mr. Gardner and you, Miss Wheeler, would [0:55:25, 0:55:43]: Definitely look at look at how we can incentivize these just across the board rather than to have these tiers put in place. We do one thing across the, we do just go do one uh slate, if you will, across the board and and and that'll be it for each and for each employee. [0:55:45, 0:55:57]: Well, we would have to look into that, Mr. Blount. I know that some cities used ARPA funds for various reasons, and it was for essential personnel like police and fire. [0:55:57, 0:56:00]: who uh worked during the COVID time. [0:56:00, 0:56:03]: Um, those ARPA funds were used for that purpose. [0:56:04, 0:56:06]: But anything in addition to that? [0:56:06, 0:56:09]: I would have to look into it a little bit more. [0:56:10, 0:56:15]: to find out how the city of Douglasville or other cities utilize their ARPA funds. [0:56:16, 0:56:18]: uh for anything other than essential personnel. [0:56:21, 0:56:23]: Mr. Alexander, do you have one last comment, sir? [0:56:23, 0:56:25]: Yeah, I I'm I'm let me say this. [0:56:26, 0:56:33]: I wanna make sure that everybody is uh because who worked through the pandemic gets something. Yes, I do. [0:56:33, 0:56:39]: But I but I do agree with the tiered approach. Even if we give everybody [0:56:39, 0:56:40]: Something [0:56:40, 0:56:44]: The people who went that extra mile to get vaccinated and boosted. [0:56:45, 0:56:46]: They helped us. [0:56:46, 0:56:56]: in addition to that. So they we should put it a little bit more on top. As that that that's the incentive to give them a little extra for their reward for going out [0:56:56, 0:56:59]: Uh adding extra protection coming to the city with that. [0:56:59, 0:57:03]: Редусін на средньовірус and there. [0:57:03, 0:57:06]: overall illness in our health health insurance plan. [0:57:08, 0:57:12]: All right, thank you. Any other comments uh at all, council? Anyone else? [0:57:13, 0:57:19]: And if not, then I need a motion to accept this proposal so we can move forward. There are motion. So so moved. [0:57:19, 0:57:20]: Okay. [0:57:20, 0:57:23]: This sounds asked about who seconded that? Ms. Kent? [0:57:23, 0:57:23]: Mm-hmm. [0:57:24, 0:57:25]: Okay, Ms. Cassick then. [0:57:25, 0:57:26]: Um [0:57:26, 0:57:29]: Mayor, I thought that they was look gonna look at [0:57:30, 0:57:33]: I mean, I guess if you all want to move forward with that, it's fine, but I thought the uh [0:57:34, 0:57:41]: I thought that the m uh city manager and HR said that it's gonna look in other areas, but if you all wanna move on with that, that's fine. [0:57:41, 0:57:44]: Yeah, motion's been made in the second, so it was up for a vote, though. [0:57:44, 0:57:50]: Mr. Garner we can mayor, we can always go back and add it to it, but we don't need to hold their money up. We can go ahead and give them [0:57:50, 0:57:53]: the their money now and then we can always add [0:57:53, 0:58:01]: We can always add something to that once it comes through. Right. Okay, fine. Mr. Gardner, your hand's still up or you got something else? Okay. [0:58:01, 0:58:04]: Very quickly, Mayor. And and and I would I would um [0:58:04, 0:58:15]: Reiterate what what the council member said, yes. Um this this was not a huge charge to the allotment that was issued to the city. So we will definitely look to see if [0:58:15, 0:58:16]: We can [0:58:16, 0:58:36]: um through that premium premium pay process that was was submitted um back last year when the ARPA funds were approved. If those if that allowed for us to be able to do the bonus pay um we'll do that and calculate what that number is and bring that back before you guys. So this would be just on top but to get folks [0:58:36, 0:58:56]: Um ready and vaccinated, we decided upon this process because obviously we don't want to do a flat rate and everybody just one poison jump, they only do one vaccination, come and get a pay and walk out the door. The incentive is to make sure they get to the point where they are boosted, hopefully. And then with that, obviously get paid additional funds. But definitely. [0:58:56, 0:59:11]: definitely to try to get as many of the employees as we can um vaccinated. That gets us back to the position of being able to fully have folks integrated and work without a lot of people worrying about their status, what's gonna happen to them or their families. But yes, we will definitely investigate [0:59:12, 0:59:16]: to move forward with a premium, premium pay if we're allowed to do it. [0:59:16, 0:59:22]: Um, like I said, in East Point, we designated all of our employees as critical. So that was one of the reasons why we did it. [0:59:22, 0:59:32]: Um, because we made that a priority at fr up front. But definitely we'll look at it. Um, Councilmember Blount, and if we're able to do that, we'll bring it back to you guys and let you know exactly. [0:59:32, 0:59:35]: you know, what the amount would be and then how that [0:59:35, 0:59:37]: how that would look from the overall funds. [0:59:37, 0:59:39]: Um in terms of the [0:59:40, 0:59:40]: Oh I'm out. [0:59:41, 0:59:44]: designated towards that item. So we'll definitely bring that back to you, guys. [0:59:45, 0:59:47]: All right, thank you. Ms. Barber, you had your hand up? [0:59:49, 0:59:58]: I wanted to know, Miss Wheeler, are you able to tell us what percentage of employees are fully vaccinated and boosted? [1:00:01, 1:00:02]: Um [1:00:02, 1:00:05]: I can give you numbers. I don't have the percentage. [1:00:05, 1:00:08]: We have sixty one employees. [1:00:08, 1:00:10]: that have been vaccinated. [1:00:11, 1:00:12]: Fully vaccinated? [1:00:13, 1:00:20]: Well, right now I don't know if they're fully vaccinated. I know they indicated that they were vaccinated. They have received at least one drug. [1:00:21, 1:00:22]: Shot. [1:00:26, 1:00:29]: Okay. It would be helpful if I knew the breakdown. [1:00:30, 1:00:35]: How many were fully vaccinated and boosted? How many have received? [1:00:35, 1:00:36]: Аліст 1 шан. [1:00:37, 1:00:44]: And how many have not been vaccinated at all with no intentions of being vaccinated? [1:00:45, 1:00:45]: Uh [1:00:47, 1:00:55]: Okay. Mr. Gardner, can you speak to that? Yes. And Councilman Bod Baba, when I came on board, that was something that I asked um the HR department to effort. [1:00:56, 1:01:16]: The problem is getting people to feel comfortable giving that information out has been part of the problem. And that's not just here. That's everywhere. And so people are just hesitant about telling because they feel like if somebody gets sick, it's gonna be this be them that's gonna be blamed. Um it's just a lot of head, still some hesitancy out there from just not just the general public. [1:01:16, 1:01:16]: Public but [1:01:17, 1:01:22]: Your general public is mirrored in your force, your workforce, and some of that still exists. [1:01:22, 1:01:37]: You know, we still got a lot of questions, a lot of pushback on just getting folks to anonymously give us the information without even giving their names. We don't need any dirt uh date of birth information. Just let us know where you are on the vaccination chart. [1:01:37, 1:01:42]: Um, that was still diff that was difficult to get. I mean, people are still skeptical, still scary. [1:01:43, 1:01:47]: Um, they think that some item information is gonna be misused against them. [1:01:48, 1:01:50]: Um, and some in some cases you can't blame them. [1:01:50, 1:01:52]: Um they just don't know. [1:01:52, 1:01:58]: Um, but we try to get as much of the information as possible so we could at least get an idea of where we are. [1:01:59, 1:02:05]: Um with our vaccination rate. So that that's sixty one out of how many employees we got, Miss Renee? [1:02:06, 1:02:07]: eighty two employees. [1:02:08, 1:02:12]: So you're you're topping close to seventy something percent, which is high. [1:02:14, 1:02:16]: Yeah, they're on it. Yeah. [1:02:16, 1:02:20]: I just think that's all right. Go ahead, please, Ms. Barber. [1:02:20, 1:02:22]: I understand the hesitancy, but [1:02:24, 1:02:27]: I understand them being reluctant to provide the information up front. [1:02:29, 1:02:33]: But we're already gonna get the information in order for them to even receive [1:02:34, 1:02:35]: The incentive. [1:02:36, 1:02:38]: So they've got to give it one way or the other. [1:02:41, 1:02:42]: Either they give it to us up front. [1:02:43, 1:02:45]: Well, they give it to us before they receive. [1:02:45, 1:02:46]: The incentive. [1:02:48, 1:02:50]: And that's if they and that's if they participate. [1:02:50, 1:02:55]: Because you might have some who m who still might not participate, even though money's being dangled. [1:02:55, 1:03:00]: They still feel like they don't wanna do it. They they'll walk away from the money because [1:03:00, 1:03:09]: They don't want anyone to know where they are or they're scared about hesitancy by taking the vi the vaccine. So whatever number we get, it won't be complete. [1:03:09, 1:03:19]: Um, because you know you're gonna have those folks who just don't wanna do anything, have anything with it. They don't care about receiving a hundred dollars or eight hundred dollars, they just don't want to do it. [1:03:20, 1:03:20]: Um [1:03:21, 1:03:32]: But um be sureful that yes, you know, you know, you'll get there'll be some data gathered. We're trying not to scare people or get them to think that we're doing this for the purpose of data gathering because then that's gonna scare more folks off. [1:03:32, 1:03:33]: So um [1:03:34, 1:03:41]: Hopefully everybody will realize this in the best interests of themselves, their coworkers, their co-workers family, and their families. [1:03:43, 1:03:44]: All right. [1:03:44, 1:03:48]: I have a question from Mr. Darn, real quick if you don't mind. [1:03:48, 1:03:49]: Mm Mr. Gardner. [1:03:50, 1:03:51]: Because we have an increase. [1:03:52, 1:03:57]: Uh, this council has put an increase in what is expected out of public works as a as a whole. [1:03:57, 1:04:04]: And because we have an imp we have implemented a uh um amphitheater and we're now starting the police department. [1:04:04, 1:04:06]: What would keep the city of stop bridge from [1:04:07, 1:04:13]: from doing what East Point did, making each employee because they're needed more now. [1:04:13, 1:04:15]: To that each employee show up. [1:04:16, 1:04:30]: um that we make it critical here and we do it across the board because I you're gonna have those different levels of comfortability from uh who are comfortable with doing this and not. And it's and it's not always that. [1:04:30, 1:04:33]: I'm I'm not want to come forward because I've been vaccinated or haven't been vaccinated. [1:04:34, 1:04:36]: It's about giving information to [1:04:37, 1:04:43]: This entity when it comes to that. Because we gotta understand that e even though it's a vaccination, it's still a medical procedure. [1:04:43, 1:04:45]: Even something small as a vaccination. [1:04:46, 1:04:47]: And so this is why [1:04:47, 1:04:55]: If we can make it critical, I would like to see the city of Stockbridge make it that employees are however we did it in east point, however, you all did it in east point. [1:04:56, 1:05:04]: So that each employee will have a comfort level and uh each employee would get an incentive from the city but in in the midst of this pandemic. [1:05:05, 1:05:09]: The the the problem you have is you're doing it retroactively pass passage the law. [1:05:09, 1:05:12]: So what we did, we did in in March of twenty twenty. [1:05:13, 1:05:21]: Um, the law didn't come about until April uh signed in the law until April or May of 2021. So even when we did the payment. [1:05:21, 1:05:34]: We if you weren't on staff during twenty twenty one to the passage of that law, you didn't get it. So like new police officers who came on board, they didn't qualify, not under that provision because they weren't even employed with the city at the time. [1:05:35, 1:05:55]: Um, so there's some differences there. We designated those folks, I know not knowing that this opera funds was ever in the future. We just designated people because we needed people to come to work to perform tasks. And under the requirements, the the states um ex the governor's emergency ordinance that was governing. [1:05:55, 1:06:06]: movements or people, we know we still have to have critical people in place. So we designated positions down from who was essential to who was critical all the way down. And that's how we covered a lot of the folks. [1:06:07, 1:06:10]: But that was done retro that was done re a year before. [1:06:11, 1:06:14]: Um, all performance came on. That was on the onset of of COVID. [1:06:15, 1:06:20]: All right. All right, folks, we have a motion. It's been made in seconds. So all in favor of motion, please indicate. [1:06:22, 1:06:29]: Okay, okay. I got four votes, uh Miss Barber. You uh not you're against it or abstain again? [1:06:30, 1:06:33]: I'm gonna abstain because okay. Four zero one. [1:06:34, 1:06:36]: All right, motion passed. Thank you. [1:06:36, 1:06:38]: Yeah, where did you get your four from? [1:06:39, 1:06:43]: I I don't have a vote from Council. [1:06:43, 1:07:03]: Okay, I thought okay, you didn't I'm sorry. I thought you voted for this. You voted against I would like to see it fairly given to each and every employee. So I'm gonna abstain. Uh the process is gonna pass what you all put it forward, but I would have I would uh ask that the uh city manager and Ms. Wheeler um do some more um investigating to see. [1:07:03, 1:07:13]: see how we can facilitate each employee. Okay, fine. They indicated they were going to do that early in the conversation. Okay. So it's 302. Motion still passed. Thank you. [1:07:16, 1:07:36]: Okay, next item up uh council consideration to approve an award uh fixed contract to lowest responsible bidder Blount construction company incorporated for the invitation to bid ITB number 2021-0015 for the city of Stockbridge 2022 L MIG program road. [1:07:36, 1:07:44]: And resurfacing an amount of$1,738,673.68. Mr. Aaron, please. [1:07:45, 1:07:53]: Yes, good evening, Mr. Mayor and Council. We come tonight asking this uh council's approval of our 2022 LME resurfacing program. [1:07:54, 1:08:00]: As in the previous years, we're resurfacing 5.05 miles of roadway within the city of Stockbridge. [1:08:00, 1:08:01]: The roles are [1:08:02, 1:08:09]: Davison Parkway from Henry County Line to North Henry Boulevard, Old Atlanta Road from Flippin' Road to the Dead End. [1:08:10, 1:08:13]: Metal Ridge Drive from Davis Road to the cul-de-sac. [1:08:13, 1:08:17]: Willow Springs Lane from Old Atlanta Road to the Cold de sac. [1:08:18, 1:08:31]: Sage Court from Spring Creek Drive to Cul-de-Sac, Memory Lane from Cul-de-Sac to Cul-de-Sac, which is in the Legends subdivision. Old Legends Boulevard, Walt Stevens Road to Memory Lane, that's in the Legends as well. [1:08:32, 1:08:36]: Timeless walk from memory lane to cul-de-sac in the legends as well. [1:08:37, 1:08:41]: Home place drive from Spear Road to Cold de Sac, that's in the legends as well. [1:08:41, 1:08:43]: Bridal coal. [1:08:43, 1:09:00]: From Carriage Lake Drive to Cul-de-Sac, that's in the Carriage Lake subdivision. Lakeview Place from Carriage Lake Drive to Cul-de-Sac, that's in the Carriage Lake subdivision. Fairgreen Trail from Monarch Village Way to Walt Stevens in the Monarch Village subdivision. [1:09:00, 1:09:18]: Winterview Way in the Monarch Village Way from Winterview Way from Monarch Village Way to Cul de Sac and the Monarch Village Subdivision. Also, the city will be resurfacing the wastewater treatment plant parking lot that's being paid out of the sewer funds. [1:09:18, 1:09:27]: But we included in our aleMIG so that we can realize an economy of scale, cause parking lots are not eligible for LMIG resurfacing. [1:09:27, 1:09:40]: And so we come tonight asking for approval so we can move forward with that project. We've already received our funds from GDOT in in the amount of$281,848.94. [1:09:40, 1:09:43]: I appreciate it. Councilman Ayelzana, go ahead, please. [1:09:47, 1:09:50]: Mr. Aaron, I thought Summit View Drive was on this list. [1:09:51, 1:09:52]: Or was that? [1:09:52, 1:09:54]: That's the twenty twenty one L me. [1:09:55, 1:09:56]: Okay, this is twenty twenty two. [1:09:57, 1:09:57]: Yes, sir. [1:09:58, 1:10:02]: Okay, so when are these going to be uh when is this paving going to be done? [1:10:02, 1:10:03]: It's twenty twenty two. [1:10:03, 1:10:04]: Yeah. [1:10:05, 1:10:09]: Well, once once council give approval and the contract is signed and accepted. [1:10:10, 1:10:13]: Hopefully by April we'll get started on the twenty twenty two list. [1:10:14, 1:10:16]: Okay, so in essence what's gonna happen is [1:10:17, 1:10:23]: We're we're we kinda got um, you know, be through the contract or whatever was backed up. We got behind on twenty twenty one. [1:10:24, 1:10:25]: So we're gonna be [1:10:25, 1:10:26]: Having [1:10:26, 1:10:28]: Uh we're gonna be doing two pavings. [1:10:28, 1:10:37]: uh behind each other. So the first 2021 will be uh go at March. When was that bill? Will it be done at the same time? It's scheduled to start March 1st. [1:10:37, 1:10:49]: Okay, so the 2021 will be March first and then the 2022 will be you thinking uh somewhere in the in in the April in April. Yes, so we're pushing to get that contract approved so that we can move forward with it. [1:10:49, 1:11:02]: Okay, all right, great. That that's awesome that we will be getting caught up because we get that call every single day about what are we gonna do about these roads. So certainly what I wanna make sure we what we can do to get out to the public. [1:11:02, 1:11:16]: uh this list of roads that are going to be paid so uh folks can um understand and look and see that their roads are being addressed that we could maybe work with Shana uh or in um Mr. Gardner maybe if we could do that. [1:11:16, 1:11:20]: Uh, to get this word out to the community so they can see. [1:11:20, 1:11:22]: uh the where their funds are going. [1:11:22, 1:11:29]: That certainly would be great. I would hope the council would be uh a receptive to getting that information out as quickly as possible. [1:11:31, 1:11:35]: Okay, any other comments from the council? Anything else for Mr. Aaron? Go ahead, Mr. Blount. [1:11:37, 1:11:38]: Um [1:11:39, 1:11:46]: On this airmake, can you give me the breakdown of the funding sources on for the complete funding sources, Mr. Aaron? [1:11:46, 1:11:48]: And then I have one more quick question. [1:11:49, 1:11:56]: Yes, sir. Uh we received$281,848.94 from GDOT. [1:11:56, 1:12:13]: Uh we'll use$89,547.77 from the sewer fund balance for the wastewater treatment plant parking lot resurfacing. And we'll use$1,367,276.97 from Splos 5. [1:12:15, 1:12:30]: Okay. Thank you, sir. Uh also, what happened to the list when we was doing the um looking at the roads and this was said I I guess over two, I guess almost three years ago, we talked about getting the list for the sidewalks. What happened to that list? [1:12:30, 1:12:33]: Yes, sir. We are working on that. We are uh [1:12:33, 1:12:46]: putting together a package. We met with our uh contractors. So in the next come coming weeks, they should get started on that as well. The contract was just recently signed, I think a couple of weeks ago. So we've had an introductory meeting with [1:12:47, 1:12:57]: with the vendor. And so we went out and identified some areas that were listed in our streets and sidewalk assessment. And that's how we're uh outlining the projects for sidewalk repair. [1:12:58, 1:13:04]: Yeah, but do you not have do you have a list of the sidewalks that have been identified like we do the roads? [1:13:05, 1:13:12]: Yes, sir. As soon as we get those quantities together, the list will be submitted to council. It's like our own call. [1:13:12, 1:13:13]: Uh [1:13:15, 1:13:28]: stormwater repair and things of that nature. We go in the neighborhood, we identify those areas, then we compile a list that's submitted to the vendor when we get the price on those. We'll come back before council and get approval to move forward with those. [1:13:29, 1:13:32]: Okay. And the reason I'm asking this, Mr. Aaron, is because [1:13:33, 1:13:39]: The the many calls I get are because a lot of the homes and we get regular months. [1:13:40, 1:13:47]: A lot of the areas people are using wheelchairs and are using walkers. You know, we have some dated uh [1:13:47, 1:13:56]: Neighborhoods or well as some newer, newer subdivisions. And the concern is that being able to ride continuously on the sidewalk. [1:13:57, 1:14:04]: uh where the sidewalls are buckling. So I'm just trying to figure out when do you have a time frame of when we're gonna be able to get that list? So [1:14:05, 1:14:12]: I could say something to them. We met last week, so hopefully when we finished calculating the footages. [1:14:12, 1:14:32]: For the resurfacing, we'll put together that list and identify the subdivisions. There was also some concerns in certain subdivisions where sidewalks were not completed. They're in front of vacant lots. How do we address those? Because if the developer is gonna come back and build on that lot, they'll eventually tear that sidewalk out. [1:14:32, 1:14:41]: We got to address those concerns, but we've got a list that we're working on. As soon as we get the quantities together, then that list will be available. [1:14:42, 1:14:48]: Do you have a time frame when that list will be available? Hopefully it'll be either this week or next week at the latest. [1:14:48, 1:14:49]: Thank you, sir. [1:14:50, 1:14:52]: Mm-hmm. Tim Thomas, go ahead, please, sir. [1:14:52, 1:14:56]: Thank you, Mayor. Uh Mr. Aaron, um I know we saw the [1:14:57, 1:14:59]: Talk about this all the time. [1:15:00, 1:15:03]: Uh, can you provide us with a uh history? [1:15:04, 1:15:12]: Of and I don't know how far you may want to go back, but can you provide a list of the streets that have been? [1:15:13, 1:15:17]: And the current list and and I guess I'm trying to see what um [1:15:17, 1:15:19]: What uh intervals [1:15:20, 1:15:23]: Uh does it recycle back to [1:15:24, 1:15:30]: uh the other streets. Um I'm not sure how many streets we have in the city, but I guess I'm just trying to see [1:15:31, 1:15:33]: What is that interval uh where that [1:15:34, 1:15:54]: Well the the the cycle starts back up again, number one. Um if you can just provide me with that list and uh number two, I'm not sure if Mr. Wiggins is on this call, but I've I've I've heard you make reference to Sparch Five and and then reading uh in another upcoming agenda item. [1:15:54, 1:16:13]: it make reference to uh splash five. And I'm just sort of curious of um, you know, what that balance is. And if Mr. Wiggins is on call, if he can just sort of get that and share it with me and share it with the council sometime in the in the future, I appreciate it. As well as the list, Mr. Aaron. [1:16:13, 1:16:16]: Well I can one thing I can tell you, I don't [1:16:16, 1:16:36]: Have I can ask the clerk's office in reference to the historical data. The only information I can provide to you that I have is since I've been here. That's the 2016 LMEG list to the present. The city is resurfacing an average of five miles a year. You have 105 miles of right-of-way that you're responsible for maintaining. [1:16:36, 1:16:37]: Maintaining. [1:16:37, 1:16:38]: So [1:16:39, 1:16:40]: In the last [1:16:40, 1:16:48]: I guess this coming up twenty twenty two, you've been on resurface thirty-five miles out of your hundred and five miles. So you've been twenty miles. [1:16:49, 1:17:02]: Well well going back going back to that 2016, I I think that's sufficient. Uh I just think I just want to be able to to to look at that to see how that interval, you know, like for instance. [1:17:02, 1:17:09]: If I just threw out a name of a street, when would that street actually come back within the cycle? And I'm just trying to gaze at that. [1:17:09, 1:17:26]: See, but then it will it won't actually go that way because the roads will be rated. And sometimes some roads deteriorate faster than others depending on the amount of traffic on the road. Subdivision roads will last a lot longer than main thoroughfares like old Atlanta Road or Davidson Parkway. [1:17:28, 1:17:29]: But but you do keep a history. [1:17:32, 1:17:39]: Yes, I've got data since I've been here, 2016. Right, right. And that's basically, you know, what we need because um [1:17:40, 1:17:48]: That determination, I do understand that, but I just want to be able to look at the history. I think it's just good information, good data just to know and just to have. [1:17:48, 1:17:52]: Yes, I'll put that spreadsheet together for you. All right, thank you. [1:17:52, 1:18:12]: Um Mr. Wiggins on the call. Well you you don't you don't you don't really have to respond. I just if you heard that if you Oh it's not a problem. It's it's not a problem. If you could just pull that together and just share with us at some other point in time. I don't want to tie the meeting up with that. I just heard this reference and I know [1:18:12, 1:18:20]: uh in another agenda item coming up it make reference to splash five as well. I'm just curious as to uh balance. [1:18:21, 1:18:23]: Mayor Proton, that's not a problem. Right now. [1:18:23, 1:18:27]: We to date we have uh collected on splash five three point four million. [1:18:30, 1:18:31]: Thank you, sir. [1:18:34, 1:18:38]: All right, um uh Mr. Gardner, you had your hand up or you want me to make comments there at all? [1:18:38, 1:18:49]: Uh no, uh not anymore, man. I I I was just gonna tell Councilmember Thomas that that and the same thing um Desh said, I mean, local roads, it could be twenty years before you see that road repaved again. [1:18:49, 1:18:54]: based on traffic and and what type of traffic is going on on your subdivision streets, but [1:18:55, 1:19:08]: Um you probably won't in some cases you probably won't see a road come back for years, but your more high traffic roads are the wanna be the ones that come back because they got truck traffic on them on a regular basis versus just regular cars. [1:19:08, 1:19:12]: But residential streets, it could be twenty years. [1:19:13, 1:19:16]: Well, you know, sometimes you have to be able to explain that to the citizen. [1:19:18, 1:19:21]: Yeah, because if they they'll see a pothole where we may not see it. [1:19:22, 1:19:23]: Yes, sir. [1:19:23, 1:19:24]: Uh [1:19:24, 1:19:26]: Any other cop yeah, go ahead, Mr. Blount. [1:19:26, 1:19:33]: Mayor, just real quick, I think one of the things that Mr. Aaron told me at one time is not about the aesthetics of the road, it's the condition of the road. [1:19:33, 1:19:43]: You know, a lot of times you have roads that look uh they may have stains and all this stuff on it and they look they look old, but they may not be cracked and and and the condition of the road may not be the priority. [1:19:44, 1:19:49]: You know, it's the conditions of the road that he was that he explained to me, maybe that'll help a little bit also. [1:19:49, 1:19:50]: Right. [1:19:51, 1:19:52]: Okay, any other comments from the council? [1:19:53, 1:19:58]: Uh seeing none. All right. So otherwise we need a motion uh to accept this uh [1:19:58, 1:20:00]: Proposal so we can go forward. Is there a motion? [1:20:01, 1:20:01]: Oh [1:20:01, 1:20:03]: Okay, Mr. Alexander, someone's there a second. [1:20:05, 1:20:05]: Okay, Mr. Blount. [1:20:06, 1:20:06]: Good deal. [1:20:07, 1:20:08]: All in favor of motion, please indicate. [1:20:10, 1:20:13]: Okay, so that is the name decision. Okay, fantastic. Appreciate it. [1:20:13, 1:20:14]: Thank you very much. [1:20:18, 1:20:19]: Okay, um [1:20:20, 1:20:33]: Council consideration to approve task order number thirty-seven of Carter Sloop Wastewater Treatment Plant Capacity Review in amount of six sixty-six thousand one hundred dollars, funding source splot five. Mr. Aaron, once again, please. [1:20:34, 1:20:39]: Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. Staff is starting to look look at the options of [1:20:39, 1:20:44]: Expanding the wastewater treatment plant. We've had a lot of development going on recently. [1:20:44, 1:20:49]: We want to be proactive instead of reactive. Having been an employee of EPD, I know how they are. [1:20:50, 1:21:00]: when it comes to issue of sewer capacity, they'd rather for you to be addressing issues before they become an issue than that wait for them to become an issue and then address them. [1:21:00, 1:21:10]: We've had a developer uh major project that has come to the city, approach the city about connecting onto the sewer system there in the Henry County Water Authority service area, but [1:21:10, 1:21:17]: trying to get connected to Heron County would be a great expense to them. So they have asked the city if they would [1:21:17, 1:21:20]: take on that capacity, it would [1:21:20, 1:21:39]: bring a lot to the city and impact fees. So we've been talking with that developer along with Ms. Johnson and her department about how we go about making this happen and bringing this development to our community. I think it'll be a very nice development if it goes forward, but we just want to be proactive as we start approaching [1:21:39, 1:21:55]: halfway point of our capacity at a wastewater treatment plant because we're at about 60 percent right now. EPD wants to reach 80% of your capacity, they want you to have a plan of action as to how you go about expanding your plant or they'll issue a moratorium where you can no longer [1:21:55, 1:22:12]: allow any connections to the plant. So we're just being proactive. We want to start the process now because it's a long process. It takes five plus years to get approved before. So we just want to be at the forefront of having this permit approved and reviewed by EPD. [1:22:14, 1:22:17]: Okay. Thank you, Mr. Aaron. Council, any questions for Mr. Aaron? [1:22:20, 1:22:28]: Seeing none of this time. So is there a motion to move forward? I I got a question. Mr. Aaron so this is uh commercial development that you're speaking of. [1:22:29, 1:22:32]: A combination of commercial and residential. [1:22:32, 1:22:39]: So it's mixed use. Okay. Yes, sir. So certainly, uh so is there any w what is there any any immediate need? [1:22:39, 1:22:40]: Uh to make that [1:22:41, 1:22:47]: to facilitate that or is this just the forward looking process that you're talking about or is there [1:22:47, 1:22:50]: something immediate need that you need. [1:22:51, 1:23:11]: For the project. Right now we're okay. We can accept the capacity because it'll take a while before the project is fully completed. But we just want to start the process because once we make this commitment to this development, we still got to be able to have capacity for additional development that comes in the future. So we just want to be on [1:23:11, 1:23:14]: the forefront. We don't want to be behind schedule. [1:23:15, 1:23:18]: when other developments come and we have to turn that development down. [1:23:19, 1:23:21]: Let's get those jobs. [1:23:22, 1:23:22]: Yeah. [1:23:22, 1:23:24]: Let's get those jobs. Thank you. [1:23:25, 1:23:26]: Mr. Blount, do you have a question? [1:23:27, 1:23:30]: Yeah, I just want to move to approve the consideration to approve the tax order number thirty-seven. [1:23:31, 1:23:33]: Okay, that's emotion or second. [1:23:34, 1:23:34]: Very good. [1:23:35, 1:23:38]: Mr. Alzheimer's second that Ms. Barber, you had a c a question. [1:23:38, 1:23:41]: I do. I know Mr. Wiggins did mention [1:23:41, 1:23:46]: Um what we've collected in splash five, I like to know what the balance is. [1:23:47, 1:23:50]: We haven't spent any spent any money yet. [1:23:50, 1:23:54]: Okay. [1:23:54, 1:23:57]: That w I mean, uh that we would pay for. [1:23:57, 1:24:03]: But I'm sorry, that is an excellent question. Even if we haven't spent any of the funds, how much is in there? [1:24:05, 1:24:08]: Three point four three point four million. [1:24:09, 1:24:10]: Three point four million. [1:24:11, 1:24:14]: Okay, three point four million. I understand that those revenues have [1:24:14, 1:24:18]: have surged and that uh we're collecting a record amount so [1:24:18, 1:24:20]: That translates to what per month? [1:24:23, 1:24:27]: Um so we s it's a it's it's about four hundred, five hundred something thousand we collect. [1:24:29, 1:24:31]: Five hundred thousand on an average. [1:24:31, 1:24:32]: Each one. [1:24:33, 1:24:34]: Well, thank you. [1:24:35, 1:24:35]: Okay. [1:24:36, 1:24:41]: Alrighty. If no other questions, the motion is made in a second. So all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:24:43, 1:24:46]: Okay. Looks like it's announcing this thing. Okay, thank you very much. Appreciate it. [1:24:47, 1:24:49]: Thank you, Mr. Mayor and Council. [1:24:49, 1:24:50]: Welcome. [1:24:50, 1:24:52]: Can I add something on the side note? [1:24:52, 1:24:53]: You go right. [1:24:53, 1:25:13]: There's been a mention about streetlight assessment. You and I had a conversation with Jennifer Williams with Georgia Power. Miss Williams and I did conduct a ride through the city on January 18th. Ms. Williams is currently putting together that assessment and proposal. And once she's completed with it, she will come back before Mayor and Council and give a presentation of the street light. [1:25:13, 1:25:15]: Lights assessment she's doing it. [1:25:16, 1:25:20]: we have will be done in phases, she recommended phases so that it can help with the costs. [1:25:22, 1:25:25]: All right, great. Appreciate it. Look forward to that undo. [1:25:26, 1:25:30]: Why if I can ask Mr. Aaron a question. Go right in, please. [1:25:30, 1:25:33]: Because he brought it up. Um I know that um [1:25:33, 1:25:36]: A contract was signed with Georgia Power. [1:25:36, 1:25:39]: To change out the light fixtures in bulbs. [1:25:40, 1:25:42]: Um in Lakeside subdivision. [1:25:42, 1:25:46]: I know it was supposed to be done in February or January. [1:25:46, 1:25:48]: Where are we with that? Can you give us a status? [1:25:48, 1:25:51]: Georgia Power has ordered the materials. [1:25:51, 1:25:54]: Firm is Williams and then waiting on the schedule. [1:25:55, 1:25:56]: for the crews to get out there to work on it. [1:25:57, 1:25:57]: Thank you. [1:25:59, 1:26:01]: All right, we'll move on. Uh Mr. Alexander. [1:26:01, 1:26:03]: Yeah, I I just won't um [1:26:03, 1:26:23]: Mr. Aaron to expound on what we're talking about, which is there's so much concern in this community about dark streets. So talk about it and tell us what you drove Georgia Power through North Henry Boulevard, Highway 138. Tell us where uh they thought the priority was going to be. [1:26:23, 1:26:36]: be uh in these phases of street lights and and what what uh what was the communication between you uh and georgia power about the urgency of getting these um dark streets lit. [1:26:36, 1:26:45]: Well the well the main concerns were like say the main thoroughfares like Hudson Bridge Road, Eagles Landing Parkway, Patrick Henry Campground. [1:26:45, 1:27:04]: Road, uh, North Henry Boulevard, Old Atlanta, Davidson Parkway, the interstate interchanges, and some of the neighborhoods we rode through. So mainly the major thoroughfares. Uh like I said, she'll be she's preparing an assessment that she will present to mayor and council about how we [1:27:04, 1:27:05]: move forward with. [1:27:06, 1:27:08]: improving the city's street lights. [1:27:08, 1:27:28]: At this time with all of the money that was approved through the infrastructure bill, can we chase down some of those dollars uh in the infrastructure bill? Since you know the money's out there and the sharks are gonna get it before we get it. If we don't go and get it now, if we got this street light plan that needs to [1:27:28, 1:27:36]: To be done and the infrastructure money is out there now. Uh, what can we do, Mr. Gardner, about going after these funds for these street lights? [1:27:38, 1:27:46]: First we need to see if they're if those are eligible under any of the funds that are out there. And if they are, just making sure we put forward an application. So [1:27:46, 1:27:54]: That's entirely us making sure to see what what those eligible activities are under each of those pro different programs that are out there. [1:27:54, 1:27:59]: Like stormwater we know is one a lot of the im that type of infrastructure, but you know [1:27:59, 1:28:11]: Street lights, whether that's one of them. And what when we say street lights, what do we mean? Are we meaning we're implementing, we're putting them in versus operations and maintenance? You know, so we'd have to see exactly where [1:28:12, 1:28:16]: Well, our current infrastructure falls and relate to the eligible activities under the [1:28:16, 1:28:17]: Under the infrastructure bill. [1:28:18, 1:28:19]: Yeah. [1:28:19, 1:28:28]: All right, just whatever dollars that we can go get. I just want us to be like sharks and blood in the water, man. Let's go get it. There's a lot of money out there. Yeah. [1:28:28, 1:28:36]: I have a quick question. I'm sorry. Um, Mr. Gardner or Ms. Wheeler has the position for the grant. [1:28:36, 1:28:40]: um coordinator position has that been posted yet? [1:28:40, 1:28:43]: Yes, ma'am, and I've got uh applications and reviewing. [1:28:43, 1:28:44]: Thank you. [1:28:45, 1:28:59]: All right, council consideration to approve software and service costs for report citation management, computer aided dispatch, CAD, mobile operations, law enforcement records, management, and public safety and uh uh index. [1:29:00, 1:29:01]: Software. [1:29:02, 1:29:06]: And Tyler Technologies in the amount of a hundred and two thousand three hundred and fifty five. [1:29:06, 1:29:12]: It's analytics, I guess it is. Okay, anyway, 402,355 funding source opera. [1:29:12, 1:29:14]: Uh Chief Tremor, please. [1:29:15, 1:29:17]: Yes, good evening, Mayor and Council. [1:29:17, 1:29:22]: Um as you all know, in order to operate the police department we need a [1:29:22, 1:29:24]: system a report management system. [1:29:25, 1:29:31]: To be able to respond to calls for service and for officers, to be able to issue uh reports and citations. [1:29:32, 1:29:35]: Of the county in all of the [1:29:35, 1:29:41]: police departments within Hindery County are on the Tyler technology system. And so we want there to be interoperability. [1:29:41, 1:29:43]: Across all the agencies in Henry County. [1:29:44, 1:29:45]: And um [1:29:45, 1:29:54]: One of the advantages of going with Tyler Technology is that the county has already purchased site and mobile licenses for all agencies within the county. [1:29:54, 1:30:00]: Uh by virtue of them having done that, that saves us around two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Um [1:30:00, 1:30:03]: We were to go another avenue with this, we would pay significantly more. [1:30:04, 1:30:12]: Um, we are able to, by virtue of uh some of the advanced analytics with this, to sole source this provider. [1:30:12, 1:30:28]: As we talked about, we want to be upfront and open and transparent with the community about crime happening within the city. And one of the things about this program is it will allow residents to actually log into our site to be able to see crime data real time for themselves. [1:30:28, 1:30:33]: And so having that capacity built into this system, I certainly think is a uh is a plus. [1:30:33, 1:30:34]: Um [1:30:34, 1:30:39]: And uh we're looking four hundred and two thousand three hundred and fifty five dollars in funding. [1:30:39, 1:30:43]: uh approved by the council through ARPA in order to be able to move forward with this purchase. [1:30:45, 1:30:49]: Thank you, Chief. I appreciate appreciate that. Questions counsel for Chief Tremor. [1:30:51, 1:30:52]: Oh Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [1:30:52, 1:30:54]: I do I wanna know if the attorneys [1:30:55, 1:30:59]: Have they vetted that this is true? I know Chief Tramer said this is a sole source. [1:31:00, 1:31:00]: Um [1:31:01, 1:31:02]: And [1:31:02, 1:31:03]: I can't confirm. [1:31:04, 1:31:06]: That it is soul sore, so that is something. [1:31:06, 1:31:13]: The attorneys, Mr. Berry, are you able to confirm that? I know there is maybe a document or something, procurement requires. [1:31:14, 1:31:14]: Um [1:31:15, 1:31:16]: to be completed. [1:31:18, 1:31:18]: Is he still on? [1:31:19, 1:31:32]: Yeah, I I'm still on council member. Yes, I I believe so. And I'm honestly gonna defer to the chief's expertise on what's a sole source on some of this technical stuff. But yes. And I don't uh so yes, that's correct. [1:31:34, 1:31:37]: We we have the accompanying sole source documentation to go home this purchase. [1:31:38, 1:31:39]: Thank you. [1:31:40, 1:31:42]: Um Mr. Blanc, go ahead, please. [1:31:43, 1:31:46]: Chief Trail, would you correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that [1:31:47, 1:31:48]: This the [1:31:49, 1:31:53]: purchases and whatever's going on with the police department is not going through our [1:31:53, 1:31:56]: regular procurement process, you guys are [1:31:56, 1:32:01]: doing something on a different level is not going through our procurement process as [1:32:01, 1:32:03]: We would normally do things, is that correct? [1:32:04, 1:32:10]: It's going through the process, it's not following the exact flow that some of the other processes follow. [1:32:10, 1:32:14]: But in order for this to move forward, it does have to be vetted at the same level. [1:32:14, 1:32:17]: uh in accordance with the current procurement policy so [1:32:17, 1:32:22]: Uh this will uh once it's approved by council, this will go forward. [1:32:22, 1:32:28]: And uh Miss Miller and the attorneys will all bet the documentation before we're able to actually make this purchase. [1:32:30, 1:32:32]: But what I'm saying is prior to [1:32:32, 1:32:34]: Numbers. [1:32:34, 1:32:54]: These numbers aren't vetted, whatever numbers you're getting returning to the police department or whatever, it's not going through the procurement process as we would normally do it. You're doing this with however you guys are setting it up. I'm sorry, Mr. Wiggins, uh you over procured procurement department. I saw him kind of had his hand up if you don't mind. Yeah, yeah, uh Chancellor. [1:32:54, 1:32:55]: What this [1:32:55, 1:32:58]: This is this purchase here is over seventy five thousand. [1:32:59, 1:33:01]: So um what came before uh [1:33:02, 1:33:03]: Bear and council was [1:33:03, 1:33:04]: Uh [1:33:04, 1:33:07]: Any purchases on their seventy five thousand on the [1:33:07, 1:33:08]: They will go uh [1:33:09, 1:33:10]: Right on through procurement. [1:33:11, 1:33:14]: Anything over seventy five thousand, he still would have to go through. [1:33:15, 1:33:17]: The procurement process, this is one of them. [1:33:17, 1:33:18]: А [1:33:19, 1:33:21]: The the best thing about this is [1:33:21, 1:33:22]: It's um [1:33:23, 1:33:27]: It it's been vetted uh by the county and it's also here it's a sole source. [1:33:31, 1:33:31]: All right. [1:33:32, 1:33:33]: Any other questions, Council? [1:33:34, 1:33:49]: Okay. So I guess you answered my question then. I saying so our regular procurement process that we have in the city, that's not being utilized. It's being vetted through other sources, what you're saying. Yeah, on this particular one because it's over the seventy five thousand. [1:33:50, 1:33:51]: I'll uh leave it. [1:33:52, 1:33:53]: For police. [1:33:54, 1:33:59]: Okay. But and and council member, sole source is an exception to the procurement. If someone else is [1:34:00, 1:34:06]: Uh or if someone else has already bid this out previously, that's an exception to having to go through the whole procurement process. [1:34:06, 1:34:07]: Okay. [1:34:09, 1:34:10]: Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [1:34:10, 1:34:30]: Airport, I'd like to make motion to approve the software and service costs for the report, citation management, computer aided dispatch, mobile operations, law enforcement records management, and public safety analytics software from Tyler Technologies in the amount of 102,355. [1:34:31, 1:34:33]: Dollars at sole source. [1:34:33, 1:34:34]: Second. [1:34:34, 1:34:41]: Okay, Mr. Barber Barber Ms. Barber made the motion. Ms. Alexander made the second. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:34:43, 1:34:45]: Okay, this is Jen the unanimous decision. Great, appreciate it. [1:34:45, 1:34:46]: Thank you, Chief. [1:34:49, 1:35:09]: Council consideration to approve renovation costs for the city of Stockbridge Police Department Headquarters building at 4545 North Henry Boulevard, not to exceed the amount of three million nine hundred and fifty-one thousand five hundred and twenty-five dollars. Uh police bond three million eight hundred and fifty-two thousand four hundred and thirty-seven dollars be splot five. [1:35:09, 1:35:20]: And$99,088, uh$98,000, yeah,$99,088 will be uh used out of opera funds. Mr. Tremor, Chief Tremor, please. [1:35:21, 1:35:25]: Yes, thank you. If I could share my screen with uh you mayor and council. [1:35:26, 1:35:28]: There you go. Can every can everybody see that? [1:35:28, 1:35:29]: Yes, sir, we can. [1:35:29, 1:35:30]: Okay, excellent. [1:35:32, 1:35:35]: So I'm sure many of you are aware. [1:35:35, 1:35:38]: Of the fact that we'll be taking over the old city hall. [1:35:39, 1:35:39]: Um [1:35:40, 1:35:42]: Building and [1:35:43, 1:35:52]: It's my understanding that building has not been updated or renovated in some years. And despite the fact that the Henry County Police Department was operating a precinct out of here. [1:35:53, 1:35:59]: Um it is not uh sufficient in and of itself in order to be able to support an actual police headquarters operation. [1:36:00, 1:36:07]: Um the building's a little dated and one of the things that we're looking to do is to update the building and of course in accordance with [1:36:07, 1:36:15]: just the aesthetics of the downtown area. We want to make sure that the police department, by virtue of where it's situated, that it meets those aesthetic elements as well. [1:36:16, 1:36:19]: So wanna share with you, this is the current rendering of the building as it looks to date. [1:36:20, 1:36:25]: We've been working with TSW and this was the design that we have uh settled on. [1:36:26, 1:36:33]: We believe this is gonna be the most cost effective, uh, but also keeping with the aesthetics and providing an updated look to the front of the building. [1:36:34, 1:36:34]: Um [1:36:35, 1:36:39]: One of the things that uh we have two different views I'll show you here. This is a [1:36:39, 1:36:40]: View [1:36:40, 1:36:43]: uh in the daytime or the night time rather [1:36:43, 1:36:45]: And this is a picture of it during the day. [1:36:46, 1:36:55]: The current floor plan, I wanna just kind of show you all, just take you on a walk through a virtual tour, so to speak, of the building so you can see what it looks like at the moment. [1:36:55, 1:36:58]: This is the current floor plan for the building. [1:36:58, 1:37:01]: And as we move through, I want to just take you through [1:37:02, 1:37:02]: The [1:37:03, 1:37:04]: Um [1:37:05, 1:37:06]: The entryway here. [1:37:06, 1:37:08]: of the [1:37:09, 1:37:11]: building you can see here this is the [1:37:11, 1:37:14]: Public lobby reception area of the building. [1:37:15, 1:37:21]: And as we move through the building here, there's a room that was being utilized as a roll call room, which we [1:37:21, 1:37:27]: want to turn into a community room. One of the things that we want about this police department is we don't want it to be just for the police department. [1:37:28, 1:37:35]: We want there to be a community room and a conference room so that we can bring members of the community together for various different outreach and community related events. [1:37:36, 1:37:41]: And we want to be able to host those things within the police department. So we want something that um the community [1:37:42, 1:37:43]: is able to [1:37:43, 1:37:45]: Um, to enjoy [1:37:45, 1:37:55]: as well as to update it for purposes of um being able to operate more effectively and then just just providing a a a a good environment for the officers to work in. [1:37:56, 1:37:57]: The [1:37:58, 1:38:04]: As you advance through, just kind of give you an update or a look rather of the uh hall, you can see that it's a little [1:38:04, 1:38:06]: It's a little dated. Um again. [1:38:07, 1:38:08]: In terms of [1:38:09, 1:38:12]: the way that the building looks. I'm sorry I'm having some [1:38:13, 1:38:18]: I got a little too technical, I think, with myself on this presentation, trying to zoom in and out of the different areas here. [1:38:19, 1:38:20]: А you can see here. [1:38:21, 1:38:26]: This is the other side of the hallway. And this office you see here was the precinct commander's office. [1:38:27, 1:38:31]: So this was the uh precinct commander's office here. You can see again. [1:38:31, 1:38:34]: uh carpet walls the doors [1:38:34, 1:38:39]: And I don't know if you can see this this window here in the hallway. Again, a lot of those things are are very dated. [1:38:40, 1:38:41]: Um [1:38:41, 1:38:44]: This is the CID area where the detectives work out of. [1:38:44, 1:38:50]: Um you can see again the space is just it needs to obviously the carpet needs to be replaced. It needs to be [1:38:50, 1:38:54]: uh refinished. I'll take you on a tour here. You can see these wonderful bathrooms. [1:38:54, 1:38:58]: uh very vintage uh look that we have going on here. [1:38:58, 1:39:00]: And um [1:39:00, 1:39:01]: This is the [1:39:02, 1:39:05]: Uh kitchen area, break room. [1:39:05, 1:39:06]: That's currently in place. [1:39:07, 1:39:10]: Uh this is the locker rooms inside the facility here. [1:39:11, 1:39:17]: And the whole back portion of the room, this is all unfinished space back here. So you can see this is just open space. [1:39:17, 1:39:23]: vision for this this would be where our property and evidence uh section would be for the police department. [1:39:23, 1:39:25]: And then you have this unfinished space here. [1:39:26, 1:39:27]: Uh as well. [1:39:27, 1:39:30]: And this is what we envision to be the patrol. [1:39:30, 1:39:31]: Oh [1:39:32, 1:39:36]: control roll call room for the officers and the supervisors to work out of [1:39:36, 1:39:37]: Um in the future. [1:39:38, 1:39:38]: Now [1:39:39, 1:39:46]: I'll take you through this is the second level. Again, this is unoccupied. It's unfinished space here, so you can see what that looks like. [1:39:46, 1:39:48]: Um there there's [1:39:48, 1:39:50]: Uh it's just a shell. [1:39:51, 1:39:51]: And [1:39:53, 1:39:54]: Uh, we've gone backwards here. [1:40:00, 1:40:08]: And you are familiar with this. Currently starting out, we're looking at 52 sword officers, six civilian employees, a total of 58 staff. And I just want you to know that. [1:40:08, 1:40:16]: If we were to break this down and look at the needs based on our current organizational structure here, we need fifteen offices, fifteen cubicles currently. [1:40:16, 1:40:20]: The space as it is only has eight available offices. [1:40:20, 1:40:22]: and space enough for sixteen cubicles. [1:40:22, 1:40:25]: So the the finished space as it is. [1:40:25, 1:40:36]: Is currently not large enough for us to be able to provide office space for all the positions that we would need to provide office space for with our current organizational structure. And that's just looking at [1:40:36, 1:40:42]: things for the moment. One of the things that we did is we sat down with the project manager, we sat down with the architect. [1:40:42, 1:40:46]: And we looked at what is our department gonna look like in the future. [1:40:46, 1:40:50]: And we wanted to build within this um design. [1:40:50, 1:40:54]: The ability to grow so that this building will serve our purposes. [1:40:54, 1:40:55]: For the next decade. [1:40:56, 1:40:58]: And so looking at that, I want to share with you. [1:40:59, 1:41:00]: The [1:41:01, 1:41:03]: drawing as it relates to what we [1:41:03, 1:41:07]: Hope to do with the building if council approves. [1:41:07, 1:41:09]: The renovation cost here. [1:41:09, 1:41:20]: So you can see we want to expand the community room in the upper right hand portion here in order to be able to host events. We have a kitchenette in here so we can bring together Citizens Police Academy, youth police academies. [1:41:20, 1:41:23]: advisory councils. We want it just to be a welcoming place. [1:41:24, 1:41:29]: some place that that again the citizens are able to come to and and and work together with us. [1:41:30, 1:41:34]: Um within that space there too, it's gonna be versatile. So if we have [1:41:34, 1:41:38]: a situation happened in the city that we can open that up as a joint operation center. [1:41:38, 1:41:45]: and be able to bring other entities from the county to be able to address, you know, maybe large scale issues that are occurring within um [1:41:45, 1:41:46]: the city of Stockbridge. [1:41:47, 1:41:57]: Uh we've repurposed some space here to allow for uh some cubicles and some additional office space so that again it allows us to grow. [1:41:57, 1:42:06]: Uh as you move in here, we've incorporated a a a small fitness room to allow the officers space to be able to take care um of their personal wellness. [1:42:07, 1:42:13]: We have an evidence lab here in the back. We have a patrol squad room and space for our supervisors here. So this is the [1:42:13, 1:42:14]: Uh first floor. [1:42:14, 1:42:16]: And then this would be the second floor. [1:42:17, 1:42:24]: Um on the second floor, uh this would be where the executive administrative staff offices are. There's a conference uh room lounge. [1:42:24, 1:42:25]: And um [1:42:26, 1:42:28]: uh some storage space up here on the second level. [1:42:29, 1:42:33]: And so as it looks, one of the things I wanted to give you this is this is sort of a vision. [1:42:33, 1:42:34]: For [1:42:34, 1:42:36]: The the public lobby. [1:42:36, 1:42:39]: When we renovate this, when citizens come in. [1:42:39, 1:42:43]: Uh you'll see they'll be able to enter into that community room on the right hand side there. [1:42:43, 1:42:44]: Yeah. [1:42:44, 1:42:45]: As we [1:42:46, 1:42:50]: move into the community room just to give you a vision of what that'll look like. [1:42:50, 1:42:58]: Uh we'll have some A V set up in there so again that we're able to do various different community events and trainings within the uh police department. [1:43:02, 1:43:06]: Now taking you to the back of the building here, this is the property and evidence section. [1:43:07, 1:43:12]: And uh what we're looking at is some movable storage. We can maximize space in the back of the building. [1:43:12, 1:43:23]: We have uh these lockers here on the right-hand side and an evidence processing station so that the officers can package up the evidence and be able to move it forward back into the property and evidence section. [1:43:24, 1:43:32]: Uh, this is to give you an idea of just the the furniture, the outlook for the patrol uh briefing room area where the officers will muster. [1:43:32, 1:43:36]: Uh, this is a look of the CID space here, what that will look like. [1:43:37, 1:43:44]: And then just to give you a look, we have some cube farms that are built out in here to allow for growth and expansion in the future. [1:43:45, 1:43:53]: um as the department grows. We have a a conference room in here and I'm gonna take you on a virtual tour of the building here in just a moment. [1:43:57, 1:44:14]: So as you can see, this is just a projected uh ideal optimal growth for the department moving forward in the future. This is where we aspire to be at some point in time in the future. Um you've seen this before. Uh this is anything new, but just to give you a context of what that looks like in terms of office space. [1:44:15, 1:44:18]: Based on that organizational structure, we're going to need twenty offices. [1:44:18, 1:44:30]: Um we're going to need 26 cubicles in order to be able to accommodate all the people there. With this design here, what it does is we have 22 offices built into that. So it still gives us a few offices to be able to grow into. [1:44:30, 1:44:37]: And then it allows for us to have 33 cube spaces in there. So again, it still provides for future growth for the department. [1:44:42, 1:44:45]: Now I'm gonna try to get this to work here, so bear with me just a moment. [1:44:45, 1:44:46]: Um [1:44:48, 1:44:49]: Hopefully this [1:44:49, 1:44:51]: works the right way. Can you all see that? [1:44:51, 1:44:53]: Yes, sir. We can. Okay, great. [1:44:53, 1:45:01]: So this would be the uh the front lobby. And again, this is not the aesthetics, it's not the carpet, it's not the layout, it's just to give you a look and and feel for the flow. [1:45:02, 1:45:05]: of uh how the department will look so [1:45:05, 1:45:13]: One of the things that we want to do if you remember from the picture um in in the beginning is that these are solid wood doors in place right now. It doesn't really allow for [1:45:14, 1:45:19]: for any um uh ability to see in or out of the building. And we certainly want to open that space up so [1:45:20, 1:45:23]: When you come into the lobby here, this will be um what the seating looks like. [1:45:24, 1:45:27]: And then it will provide access to the restrooms here to the right. [1:45:27, 1:45:30]: And then to the community room here to the right also. [1:45:30, 1:45:41]: Uh these will be our service bay windows here where citizens will come in and they'll pick up their their records reports or come to file a report or anything that they need from the police department. We'll be able to serve them from this area here. [1:45:41, 1:45:49]: Moving inside, you can see this is uh the reception area where our records coordinator and a records clerk will work out of the serve. [1:45:50, 1:45:51]: The citizens [1:45:52, 1:45:56]: Uh moving inside, this is the conference room that's next to the training room here. [1:45:56, 1:45:59]: This door right here leads into the community training room. [1:45:59, 1:46:03]: But as we move around, we have this conference room here and these these um [1:46:04, 1:46:06]: This this glass right here is actually [1:46:07, 1:46:14]: Um we're able to open this up so that we we we don't have to close off this space. And so these are like sliding glass doors. [1:46:14, 1:46:20]: uh that we'll be able to utilize and have some really nice conference space in the uh front of the house here with the building. [1:46:20, 1:46:26]: Now moving into the investigations area, just to give you an idea of what that looks like, uh, there's some sergeant's offices here in the back. [1:46:27, 1:46:30]: But this will be uh cubes for our investigators to work out of. [1:46:30, 1:46:38]: Uh one of the things that's not captured here, they're actually uh two interviews in an observation room along this back wall that wasn't incorporated to the design. [1:46:38, 1:46:42]: Uh, but you can see a little bit of what this CID area is gonna look like. [1:46:43, 1:46:49]: I'm gonna take you into the sergeant's office. This is what a standard office looks like uh within the building, just to give you a feel. [1:46:49, 1:46:50]: of how that's going to be set up. [1:46:52, 1:46:58]: So you can see this is gonna be your typical supervisor or uh sergeant's office. [1:46:58, 1:46:59]: In the department. [1:47:10, 1:47:12]: This here is the patrol. [1:47:12, 1:47:13]: Area. [1:47:13, 1:47:24]: This will be where all the officers come prior to the shift to get their briefings and where they'll meet for training, um, so on and so forth. And this will be that unfinished space that was in the back of the building. [1:47:25, 1:47:30]: uh that you all had seen. This will be a conference room and then we'll have both of the patrol captains' offices will be [1:47:31, 1:47:34]: Uh back along the back this will be a a copy area. [1:47:34, 1:47:37]: And I'll take you in here. This will be the um [1:47:40, 1:47:41]: A lounge area. [1:47:41, 1:47:49]: And that's going to be shortened a little bit. We will have another lounge upstairs, but it's going to be shortened a bit to allow for the uh workout room within the facility as well. [1:47:55, 1:47:59]: As we as we uh we we move up, you can see this is kind of the executive office here. [1:48:00, 1:48:05]: And um this would be the uh the chief's office. There's a small conference room up here. [1:48:06, 1:48:08]: In order to be able to uh conduct meetings. [1:48:09, 1:48:11]: And um just give you a [1:48:11, 1:48:14]: general overview of what that looks like and then [1:48:14, 1:48:16]: Uh back here we have [1:48:16, 1:48:17]: Um [1:48:17, 1:48:21]: other administrative offices so you have an idea of what that looks like as well. [1:48:25, 1:48:27]: Let me see if I can get back to [1:48:33, 1:48:34]: Right, so [1:48:34, 1:48:40]: You've had an opportunity to to see a little bit and certainly we'll have questions, anything that you all want to know, any questions that you have. [1:48:40, 1:48:43]: And Carl, you're you're on as well, right? [1:48:45, 1:48:46]: Yeah, Carl's on. [1:48:46, 1:48:47]: Okay, great. [1:48:47, 1:48:55]: So uh this is this is how it breaks down, this is how the cost breaks down. And so the exterior update to the front, we're estimating at about$100,000. [1:48:55, 1:48:57]: uh to be able to make that adjustment. [1:48:57, 1:49:06]: And then the dollar amounts listed like first floor front,$125, that's an estimate of what it's gonna cost based on square footage to make that renovation. [1:49:06, 1:49:22]: The cost for the front, uh the first floor in the front is going to be less expensive because we're we're not all we're doing is really updating that space. We're not having to um take out every wall or build something completely from scratch. So the costs are a little lower. However, that space is the largest space. [1:49:23, 1:49:25]: in the facility. And so when you look at that square footage [1:49:26, 1:49:27]: We're looking to update that first. [1:49:28, 1:49:31]: front level there, the unfinished or the finished space rather. [1:49:31, 1:49:34]: is about one, just a little over one million dollars. [1:49:34, 1:49:42]: Uh the evidence lab, the cost per square foot is a little higher on that because there is some trenching that has to happen in that room in the concrete. [1:49:42, 1:49:47]: in order to be able to allow for this lighting storage system. So we're looking about two hundred fifty dollars a square foot there. [1:49:47, 1:49:55]: about 142,000. The finished, the unfinished space in the back, we're looking about six hundred and eighty-seven thousand and to finish the second level. [1:49:55, 1:49:58]: Seven hundred and eighty seven thousand five hundred dollars. [1:49:58, 1:50:07]: So we're looking at uh 2.7, 2.8 million dollars just in renovation uh slash construction cost in order to be able to update the building. [1:50:08, 1:50:11]: Now the additional cost it's included in the total of three point nine million. [1:50:12, 1:50:20]: Is the furniture. Um, for all the furniture for the building, obviously we have to purchase all that. Uh, two hundred and twenty-seven thousand dollars we're looking at for furniture. [1:50:20, 1:50:25]: Uh for the uh IT, the technology infrastructure, we're looking about two hundred and twenty thousand dollars. [1:50:26, 1:50:37]: uh security access control 117, the fencing around the the the perimeter of the facility, especially considering the way that the street is being reconfigured next to the police precinct. [1:50:37, 1:50:43]: Uh there's some some some modifications of the fencing that have to be made. We've gotten estimates on that, about fifty-five thousand. [1:50:43, 1:50:51]: Um, updating the signage, the monument in the front. We're looking at about 10,000, refreshing some of the landscaping in the very front at about 10,000. [1:50:52, 1:50:54]: We've already um [1:50:54, 1:50:59]: Council already approved$165,000 of TSW, but we've actually been able to reduce that cost. [1:51:00, 1:51:10]: So we're looking at$152,000 in architectural design work from TSW and of course Technwood serving as project manager on there. Their expense is$35,000. [1:51:10, 1:51:13]: So the subtotal that as you can see there, 3.6. [1:51:13, 1:51:20]: We've got about a ten percent contingency uh built into that for three hundred and thirty thousand dollars, which gets us to the three point nine. [1:51:20, 1:51:24]: That we would need in order to be able to complete this project as we would like. [1:51:25, 1:51:28]: uh so that we can grow the department into the future. [1:51:28, 1:51:29]: Now Carl. [1:51:30, 1:51:34]: Um, notice a little quick, is there anything that I missed or anything that you'd like to add? [1:51:35, 1:51:40]: He did an amazing job, Chief. Um he covered that in great detail. [1:51:40, 1:51:41]: Um [1:51:41, 1:51:43]: We're um [1:51:43, 1:51:57]: Real excited to move this forward is a tight, tight timeline to try to get the um the department moved into this building. Um we'll be doing that in phases, but um we do need to move forward very quickly with this. Um [1:51:57, 1:52:03]: The pricing drawings from the architect will be finished at the end of this month so that we can firm up the pricing. [1:52:03, 1:52:05]: Um but um [1:52:05, 1:52:05]: These are [1:52:06, 1:52:07]: Oh [1:52:07, 1:52:12]: very comfortable numbers that we put together and and uh we just ask for your approval tonight. [1:52:14, 1:52:16]: Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. [1:52:17, 1:52:19]: Uh Chief, you know, um [1:52:20, 1:52:22]: Late last year I did take the tour. [1:52:23, 1:52:25]: Oh, the facility and um [1:52:26, 1:52:27]: Um [1:52:27, 1:52:31]: It wa it wasn't good. Uh I I'll just leave that at that. [1:52:32, 1:52:37]: Uh my concern though is looking at the future and [1:52:38, 1:52:54]: uh the needs for um finances and you know we approve uh the the grant writer position and i know councilwoman barber had mentioned something here recently about um you know that if you know that position [1:52:55, 1:53:00]: uh being on board and being able to get out there in the trenches to try to [1:53:00, 1:53:10]: uh offset some of these costs. And I know Mr. Gardner, I um asked you the question and I think you sort of got on that. And so it's out there now. So but [1:53:10, 1:53:11]: Um [1:53:12, 1:53:15]: Mr. Gardner, can you speak to the the slowness? [1:53:16, 1:53:20]: and fill in that position and when does it close? [1:53:20, 1:53:38]: Because as I'm seeing it now, uh Chief, is that uh we need though we need to identify those um uh resources as soon as possible to help uh offset uh some of these costs. Cause uh as you indicated, you know, um looking at the future. [1:53:39, 1:53:43]: So I guess this is a a combination of a response from um [1:53:43, 1:53:49]: Mr. Gardner and from the chief, uh especially uh about the grant writer, uh Mr. Gardner. [1:53:50, 1:53:53]: Yes, uh Protendant Thomas. L let me first say this. [1:53:53, 1:54:00]: You know, your grant writer is not a panacea. They're not gonna s they're not and I'm gonna say that real clearly, not going to cover [1:54:01, 1:54:06]: one hundred percent, maybe even fifty percent of your police department cost moving forward. [1:54:06, 1:54:08]: I don't want us to get to the point where we put [1:54:08, 1:54:11]: Une unrealistic expectation on a person. [1:54:11, 1:54:12]: Um [1:54:13, 1:54:13]: But [1:54:14, 1:54:15]: Um obviously [1:54:16, 1:54:16]: You know. [1:54:16, 1:54:17]: Where we are today. [1:54:18, 1:54:26]: We've advertised the position. I think it's been out for about three weeks. I've gotten a good set of applications that I'm reviewing and setting up in the interviews. [1:54:26, 1:54:31]: And we'll be meeting with Ms. Renee to get that scheduled and get those moved forward. [1:54:31, 1:54:34]: Um so hopefully we'll have somebody on here fairly quick, but [1:54:35, 1:54:55]: I do want to make sure because I don't like hiring the wrong person because I'm moving quick. I'd rather hire the right person and do my due diligence because obviously, you know, this is a very important position. So definitely we're we we've already advertised it. We've already received some good applications. We're reviewing those. As soon as we get those reviewed, we'll go [1:54:55, 1:54:58]: in earnest to set up our interviews and do our background checks. [1:54:59, 1:55:01]: And make sure we bring the right person in. [1:55:01, 1:55:21]: I'd rather have the right person on the right seat on the in the bus. Mr. Garden, let me respond to that. And I appreciate your your your your frankness. But this this is my position, and I think this is the position of the council. Um, you know, we we sort of understand that um, you know, everything is not made out of gold. [1:55:21, 1:55:26]: go. But one thing that we like to move forward when the when the council [1:55:26, 1:55:28]: uh create legislation [1:55:29, 1:55:31]: Um going forward. [1:55:31, 1:55:35]: Um, the fact that we do not have the position. [1:55:35, 1:55:38]: We know then that that bucket is empty. [1:55:39, 1:55:42]: So we see you see that's the difference. The bucket is empty. [1:55:43, 1:55:49]: Whatever we get going forward, it's going to help. But if it's not moving, [1:55:49, 1:55:51]: If it's not moving. [1:55:51, 1:56:00]: And the council has legislated. Hold on, hold on. I I want you to understand my position, because this is how I am, and you're gonna learn this about me. [1:56:00, 1:56:02]: When we legislate [1:56:02, 1:56:06]: And we test staff to move forward. [1:56:06, 1:56:08]: That's what we expect. [1:56:08, 1:56:16]: So the fact that it has not moved, that means as long as it's not moving, the bucket is always empty. [1:56:17, 1:56:19]: We don't know what we're going to get. [1:56:19, 1:56:22]: Until we go out there to attempt to fill the bucket. [1:56:23, 1:56:38]: You understand? So, and that's the position that we take as this council. So, you know, you as the as the manager, I know you just got here late January. So this is not this is not your issue. And I appreciate when I ask you the question. [1:56:38, 1:56:42]: you immediately went to it and you put the position out there. [1:56:42, 1:56:44]: But I'm concerned now though that [1:56:44, 1:56:47]: Uh we approved this in in December. [1:56:48, 1:56:51]: And I think what in the last ten days. [1:56:52, 1:56:54]: That it got off the ground. [1:56:54, 1:57:00]: See, that's that's just that just a that's just a concern that I have about when council [1:57:01, 1:57:04]: legislate and approve, it does not move. [1:57:05, 1:57:10]: And now we just had this presentation from the chief and he speaks to the future. [1:57:10, 1:57:13]: And he's indicated to us what he needs. [1:57:14, 1:57:15]: And so [1:57:17, 1:57:23]: That that's the issue that I have. And we cannot we cannot fulfill these wishes. [1:57:24, 1:57:26]: If we're not moving together. [1:57:26, 1:57:31]: So and I'm just saying this just to say you as the city manager. [1:57:31, 1:57:32]: Um [1:57:33, 1:57:35]: This is the expectations. [1:57:35, 1:57:36]: That we have. [1:57:37, 1:57:38]: Um [1:57:38, 1:57:40]: We want things to move. [1:57:41, 1:57:42]: So we know if it don't move. [1:57:43, 1:57:45]: Of course you're not gonna get anything. [1:57:45, 1:57:45]: Right. [1:57:47, 1:57:49]: We don't know what we're gonna get when it moves. [1:57:49, 1:57:54]: Understood. And then that's that's that's just the point that I just want to make. But I I appreciate it. [1:57:55, 1:58:05]: I understood. Thank you, sir. And my charge is my charge is your charge. Once approved, our goal is to move forward in earnest. Um [1:58:05, 1:58:21]: That's what I've always done because that's what my prime directive is, and my job is to make sure that I implement policy directives from May and Council. That's that's job number one. So this team is going to be moving forward on any legislation passed by a council. [1:58:21, 1:58:23]: Moving forward, we will take care. [1:58:23, 1:58:25]: And make sure that those things get done. [1:58:26, 1:58:28]: in a timely manner as prescribed. [1:58:28, 1:58:29]: Um [1:58:29, 1:58:35]: You know, I I I understand we we should have had a grant manager here, a grant person here last year. [1:58:36, 1:58:37]: Yeah, before last, to be quite honest with you. [1:58:38, 1:58:41]: Um, because we have missed out on a lot of money here. [1:58:41, 1:58:43]: Over the last two years. [1:58:43, 1:58:44]: Um [1:58:44, 1:58:49]: You know, and and my hopes is, you know, we don't because a lot of this stuff comes with deadlines. [1:58:49, 1:58:51]: You know, um [1:58:52, 1:58:55]: We we were fortunate enough in my last job to have hired [1:58:56, 1:59:01]: to grant people literally right before the pandemic hit. [1:59:01, 1:59:11]: And n not knowing that it would and what the impacts would be. Um, that was just because we had another we we we had a need to go after additional things for additional departments. [1:59:11, 1:59:13]: Бот окей і на інстанці. [1:59:14, 1:59:18]: But I will tell you that we will get this person on board. We will scour. [1:59:19, 1:59:22]: Every bit of the federal monies that are out there that we could apply for. [1:59:23, 1:59:26]: and be able to manage because the one other part of this is [1:59:26, 1:59:46]: I don't want us to get so ahead by going after money that we can't implement it in a timely manner, then we lose them. And the thing too is But that comes with another set of consequences. But definitely, yes, sir. You see, not not even necessarily for the police department. No, no, no. In general. [1:59:46, 2:00:04]: Um this is not just for no, this is a citywide effort where we can find the funds to get things moving. We will definitely be looking towards those, implementing them, and making sure that I don't know. You know what I'm saying? Seek, seek and you shall find. Yes, sir. But if you don't seek, you ain't gonna find nothing. [2:00:04, 2:00:12]: Right. I agree. So so now this is this let me ask uh the chief just to expound on on his contingency there. I just thought of [2:00:12, 2:00:17]: I'm just looking at that figure. Chief, is there any in the in in the comments you want to speak to that? [2:00:17, 2:00:24]: Yes, sir. So one of the things I would and I failed to mention is um by virtue of us being able to utilize ARPA funding. [2:00:24, 2:00:28]: We've been able to all send a lot of the start up calls to the police department that we would have. [2:00:28, 2:00:33]: had to rely on the police bond to fund. So we have not spent any of the three million dollars in the police bond. [2:00:33, 2:00:40]: So uh we're in very good standing as it relates to that. And I was speaking with Mr. Wiggins, I spoke with Mr. Gardner as well. [2:00:40, 2:00:43]: Plus five, there's nine million uh eight hundred. [2:00:43, 2:00:50]: and fifty-two thousand four hundred and thirty-seven dollars allocated to civic projects. Nine million of that has been allocated to the cultural arts center. [2:00:50, 2:00:57]: However, that still leaves uh eight hundred and fifty-two thousand four hundred and thirty-seven. It's lost five on civic projects. [2:00:57, 2:01:02]: It could help offset the uh expense of this and we confirm that information with Mr. Walls as well. [2:01:03, 2:01:18]: Um there and we're we we we would if we had to understand we have contingencies of about three hundred and thirty thousand dollars, but our hopes to try to and and we've been working very diligent and Carl will tell you my team and I and and uh Carl [2:01:18, 2:01:23]: And um uh Heather, uh everybody that's been working on this project, we've been looking at how can we [2:01:23, 2:01:24]: How can we [2:01:25, 2:01:28]: accomplish the the objective but still [2:01:28, 2:01:36]: save cost. And so we we've we've probably been able to put our heads together and in and I would venture to say [2:01:36, 2:01:50]: you know, over half a million dollars in in just um, you know, things that we were able to to do. As an example, um the they recommended replacing the whole HVAC um uh structure. We were able to repurpose that. [2:01:50, 2:02:00]: And uh to only replace certain necessary elements of that. And so we've really been diligent. And I say that to say that we will continue to be as we move forward as well. And so we're looking for ways to save costs. [2:02:01, 2:02:10]: We we wouldn't, you know, obviously we we may not even happen to dip into all that. Um, but if we did, our foot could offset some of those expenses that relate specifically [2:02:10, 2:02:16]: to the information technology and the infrastructure. So we could use some of that to offset those expenses as well. [2:02:17, 2:02:37]: But I think we're in good financial standing to be able to move forward with this project without value engineering anything out to allow us to grow into the future without having to dip into fund balance or anything along those lines based on what we currently have. Now to answer your question, Mayor Pro Tem, we we that there are some things we discussed. There's some [2:02:37, 2:02:38]: [7358.7, 7365.1]: But those alternate scenarios are going to cut down on uh the available space, which means at some point in time in the future. [2:02:45, 2:02:56]: We're going to have to make modifications. And Carl can speak to this because he's the expert here. That it's my understanding that those costs are going to be significantly more for us. [2:02:56, 2:03:03]: If we do this in a phased approach instead of doing it right now while we have the opportunity. Did you want to speak to that, Carl? [2:03:03, 2:03:07]: Sure. Um when you're looking at a project like this and [2:03:07, 2:03:09]: applying good stewardship, um [2:03:10, 2:03:30]: Chief and I talked about it a great length that we want to make sure that this project services him for uh many years into the future and not just a bare bones to get him in the building. Um you will end up later on as the department grows uh coming back and doing additional renovations to accommodate that. [2:03:30, 2:03:33]: future. We don't want to be in that position. We don't want to be [2:03:33, 2:03:53]: Number one, incurring uh accelerated costs for that uh as standalone projects. Uh we certainly don't want to be in a position of having contractors inside the uh working police department uh trying to make renovations. So we're just trying to set this this department up in this first um in this initial. [2:03:53, 2:03:56]: renovation uh project. [2:03:56, 2:04:02]: uh for it's a service uh chief in his department for it for a minimum of ten years. [2:04:03, 2:04:07]: Thank you, sir. And and and I just want to just say this in closing, uh Mayor. [2:04:08, 2:04:11]: From my perspective and and where I sit. [2:04:12, 2:04:14]: As an elected official. [2:04:15, 2:04:18]: I have to look at the total picture. [2:04:18, 2:04:23]: Uh the police department is just one department. And as this council knows, [2:04:24, 2:04:30]: And without me even speaking it at this point, there are a number of [2:04:30, 2:04:31]: Things and issues. [2:04:32, 2:04:34]: that we have to deal with. [2:04:34, 2:04:38]: So when you're talking about being able to finance [2:04:38, 2:04:43]: All of the things that we need to do civic projects and other things. [2:04:44, 2:04:50]: Um we have to be able to look at the total picture. So that's why I'm a little concerned about. [2:04:50, 2:04:59]: Um, you know, some of the spending, even though I do understand a lot of the sources, but I just don't want it to be taken for granted. [2:04:59, 2:05:03]: Uh and then and the chief, you know, you sort of tease me, uh [2:05:03, 2:05:16]: during Christmas when uh I had on my little Santa Cloth outfit and I won't remind you what you how you how you tease me but uh that that sort of still hold true. So uh I just want to throw that out yeah. [2:05:20, 2:05:23]: And that that's all the inside joke between you and I. Yes, sir. [2:05:24, 2:05:25]: All right, I yeah, man. [2:05:26, 2:05:33]: No problem. Councilman Alexander, go ahead, please. Yeah, Mayor. I've been told that we're not on Facebook. These are important discussions. [2:05:33, 2:05:36]: Certainly the public need to be able to tune in. [2:05:36, 2:05:40]: I don't understand why if the IT guy was out why [2:05:40, 2:05:43]: Our contract would not have called for a substitute to be in there. [2:05:44, 2:05:47]: But to have these meetings not be on Facebook. [2:05:47, 2:05:50]: And have the public not sharing any of this. [2:05:50, 2:05:54]: We've lost so much valuable information, should have been going out tonight. [2:05:54, 2:05:57]: It's not going out. What's going on? [2:05:58, 2:06:17]: Well so obviously we'll have some we'll have to take take a look at the contract. I don't know why someone wasn't here anyway as well. And and as you see that we um uh Mr. Washington's not with us, but yet he has a a replacement online uh for him for him uh to handle any type of legal issues as well with Mr. Berry being present as well. So I don't know. We have to take it. I don't know why. Yes, ma'am. [2:06:18, 2:06:34]: Um just for the record, all of these meetings, even though they do uh broadcast live on Facebook Live, they also are uploaded the following day to the city's website to view. So the recording will be available to the public. [2:06:34, 2:06:41]: Thank you, man. Certainly that that is certainly always always a good thing. So great, grateful that we got backup, but everybody's on Facebook. [2:06:42, 2:06:51]: Well we don't when we when we're not on Facebook, we're losing. I thought uh Miss uh Thornton Miss Shana was working on it. What's going on? Did we not get it fixed? [2:06:52, 2:07:01]: Yeah, I would imagine that must be the case. If it's not, but we're not on right now. I'd imagine that's that's correct. That's not the case. [2:07:01, 2:07:02]: Oh yeah. [2:07:03, 2:07:05]: Thank you for [2:07:05, 2:07:10]: Uh and and and uh all due respect to uh councilman Alexander. Um [2:07:13, 2:07:16]: Ha ha I'm trying to phrase this in a certain way. [2:07:16, 2:07:19]: You know, we we are having discussions [2:07:19, 2:07:22]: about certain things. But let me just say that [2:07:23, 2:07:24]: Um [2:07:26, 2:07:28]: Something's [2:07:28, 2:07:31]: that needs to happen. I I think [2:07:31, 2:07:41]: um like the city clerk just mentioned, I I think some of these things will just be taken care of. I I don't want to just I don't want to get too deep into um [2:07:42, 2:07:43]: The dirty laundry. [2:07:44, 2:07:47]: Uh so if we can just sort of stay on board. [2:07:47, 2:07:54]: and just talk about the things that we need to talk about and whatever shortcomings, uh, we'll we'll just fix those. [2:07:55, 2:07:58]: Okay. Ms. Gantt, Miss Gantt, go ahead, please. [2:07:58, 2:08:18]: There also on the Facebook page right now there's a link that says, Hey, we're not live, just click on this link and it automatically takes them to the Zoom right now. Even though you know I know the Facebook is it when it goes live and it, you know, does that, but it also there's a link up there that [2:08:18, 2:08:21]: They are clicking on and coming directly to Zoom. [2:08:21, 2:08:23]: Okay, thank you. Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [2:08:24, 2:08:28]: Okay, my question is in regards to the item on the agenda. Is that correct? Go ahead, please. [2:08:30, 2:08:30]: Go ahead. [2:08:33, 2:08:36]: My question is specific to the item. [2:08:36, 2:08:40]: And I wanted to ask either Mr. Gardner or Chief Tramer. [2:08:42, 2:08:44]: I don't know. Um [2:08:44, 2:08:45]: T SWs [2:08:46, 2:08:49]: contract or their design fees, nor do I know. [2:08:49, 2:08:52]: Kevin Woods management teams. [2:08:52, 2:08:53]: Um [2:08:55, 2:08:59]: I don't have a copy of their contract, so I don't know how they deal. [2:09:01, 2:09:03]: Mr. Um Travathon, can you speak to that? [2:09:05, 2:09:09]: I'm not sure what the question is. Can you read at the um breakdown? [2:09:10, 2:09:10]: Of the charges. [2:09:11, 2:09:18]: for the construction of or the renovations. And I see Kekinwood management fees is$35,000. Can you explain what that covers? [2:09:19, 2:09:39]: Well that's um my services as applied to the project to assist the chief and the other members of the design team uh to to manage the cost, manage the procurement processes, uh manage the schedule, especially since it's a very tight schedule, uh, and be a resource to um uh to chief. [2:09:39, 2:09:43]: and his team. So uh we've been very involved uh up to this point. [2:09:44, 2:09:54]: uh in getting this project set up and uh so to be successful. Um I prepared the um the management plan that I think is part of your package tonight. [2:09:54, 2:09:57]: Uh along with the budgeting. Um so we've um [2:09:58, 2:10:04]: You know, it's a collaborative effort, but you know, I'm kind of like the quarterback of the team to try to make sure it all happens and happens on time and in budget. [2:10:05, 2:10:09]: Well, I know you didn't just pull thirty-five thousand dollars out of the air. So I'm just wanna know. [2:10:09, 2:10:13]: A formula. What how do you build this? I mean. [2:10:13, 2:10:23]: How'd you come up with 35,000? It's it's time driven. Uh I try to estimate the number of hours that I'm going to spend on a project. Usually I try to break that down by month. [2:10:23, 2:10:31]: Uh but it is it's very it's all time driven and it's and it's just based on my estimate of the hours that I feel like I've put into this project. [2:10:31, 2:10:34]: Uh based on my experience on similar projects. [2:10:36, 2:10:46]: Okay, so we should not expect that an amendment or any change order will come to us because you will be increasing your management fees. [2:10:47, 2:10:52]: I based my management uh fees and my estimate of time based on the the [2:10:53, 2:10:57]: Uh the project that we currently have um programmed um [2:10:58, 2:11:06]: You know, we know that uh the chief is wanting to get the department open in July, but we also know that there will be portions of this construction that will be going on beyond that. [2:11:07, 2:11:13]: And so my fees take all that into consideration. So I I I truly believe that if we don't change [2:11:14, 2:11:19]: any of the um of this program and it goes forward as we uh suspect that it will go. [2:11:20, 2:11:23]: Um that the my fees will will remain the same. [2:11:23, 2:11:37]: Okay, so I don't is there any representative from TSW on the line? Can they answer their design piece? Because what I don't want is for them to come back or for the police chief or the city manager to have to come back. [2:11:38, 2:11:40]: And have to ask for more more money. [2:11:41, 2:11:43]: to cover their fees. [2:11:43, 2:11:49]: I just coun councilwoman Barber, if I could speak to that. Um I spoke to Heather earlier today and she [2:11:50, 2:11:55]: Um is is not here, but uh council did previously approve one hundred and sixty five thousand dollars. [2:11:56, 2:11:59]: Um there was a resolution some months back that [2:11:59, 2:12:09]: authorize them to you know do all the the layout for the building and to prepare the plans and so on and so forth. So that that hundred and fifty two thousand dollars is not an addition to as a matter of fact. [2:12:10, 2:12:19]: Hundred and sixty-five was approved and we've been able to reduce their fee to one hundred and fifty two thousand dollars. So we don't anticipate that it's going to go any any uh there's not gonna be any additional monies. [2:12:20, 2:12:22]: Yeah, to anticipate spinning PSW. [2:12:22, 2:12:28]: That was my second question because the original information that we got with our agenda packet. [2:12:28, 2:12:31]: It accounts for a hundred and sixty five thousand, but I saw on [2:12:32, 2:12:34]: your screen as you were sharing. [2:12:35, 2:12:35]: Um [2:12:35, 2:12:40]: It said a hundred and fifty two thousand. So I figured you may have negotiated or something. [2:12:40, 2:12:41]: That's good to know. [2:12:41, 2:12:42]: Um [2:12:42, 2:12:58]: Now the other thing is reading this, so it won't go through a competitive bidding process as far as the renovations. You're actually going to be using or piggybacking off of a state contract for a contractor to do the renovation work. [2:12:59, 2:13:04]: Yes, the city was already using a contractor, uh, the Gordian group, uh, that they had worked with and [2:13:05, 2:13:11]: We've been um having some discussion with them and and coordinating. They've actually that's how we were able to reduce the cost from TSW because [2:13:12, 2:13:17]: Uh they've been involved in conversations with us and helping us cost the project. [2:13:17, 2:13:25]: So we were able to take the costing fees out of that project. But yes, to your point, we will be um utilizing state contract. [2:13:25, 2:13:28]: um contractor for those uh renovations. [2:13:29, 2:13:34]: Gotcha. And Mr. Gardner, you reviewed this. You're good with this. [2:13:35, 2:13:42]: Yes, ma'am. Okay, Mr. Berry, I want to know how Mr. Berry reviewed this proposal. [2:13:43, 2:13:43]: Yes. [2:13:44, 2:13:45]: He's supposed to be looking at this. [2:13:47, 2:13:49]: Yes, council member, I did. [2:13:49, 2:13:50]: Thank you. [2:13:51, 2:13:54]: Well, I'm sorry, it t I was on mute and it took me a second to get unmuted. [2:13:56, 2:13:58]: Okay, Mr. Alexander, go ahead, please. [2:14:01, 2:14:02]: Yes, thank you. [2:14:02, 2:14:04]: Uh obviously uh we have a [2:14:04, 2:14:06]: What what's going on here is uh [2:14:07, 2:14:10]: You know, the chief has put together a program for us to see [2:14:11, 2:14:12]: Uh what could be [2:14:12, 2:14:15]: Done, but uh what I'm more interested in is that [2:14:16, 2:14:18]: Tonight we really embarked upon [2:14:19, 2:14:22]: Uh the item number thirteen, which was the annexation. [2:14:23, 2:14:35]: Which is we're going to be growing. That's that's that is that's that's on the bill, right? That that that was item number thirteen, right? That we voted on the resolution to make it public. Yes, go ahead. Okay. [2:14:36, 2:14:39]: So that was our so in essence what's gonna happen is [2:14:40, 2:14:42]: And that process moves through [2:14:42, 2:14:44]: Uh the legislation moves through. [2:14:45, 2:14:51]: and the city is going to close the holes uh in terms of our overall borders and everything. [2:14:51, 2:14:54]: That's gonna involve a tremendous amount of growth. [2:14:54, 2:14:55]: For the city. [2:14:56, 2:15:04]: Uh closing in all the holes. I don't know, Miss, have we even involved the chief in understanding this particular? [2:15:05, 2:15:16]: Uh legislation. So yes, okay. So the chief has been made aware of what's going on. Talk about uh I saw that you had a graph there of the I think you said up to sixty seven. [2:15:17, 2:15:25]: uh officers or what was that on the on the chart for the particular for some uh future growth because obviously [2:15:25, 2:15:27]: Uh, if this legislation [2:15:27, 2:15:28]: uh moves through. [2:15:28, 2:15:31]: That growth is gonna come rapidly. So [2:15:32, 2:15:34]: Uh, with this new building plan that you got. [2:15:35, 2:15:37]: And and moving forward with it. [2:15:37, 2:15:37]: Uh [2:15:38, 2:15:39]: Is there going to [2:15:40, 2:15:41]: uh be able to [2:15:41, 2:15:49]: uh absorb this growth and it's good and it's great at this time that we're doing what we're doing. So talk about that. [2:15:49, 2:15:50]: In terms of um [2:15:50, 2:15:53]: this plan that you put together and uh [2:15:53, 2:15:56]: the the overall annexation and growth. [2:15:58, 2:16:02]: So you're right on the number. Right now we're fifty two sworn and we're looking to [2:16:03, 2:16:05]: Or we expect as we grow that [2:16:05, 2:16:07]: We'll probably be about sixty seven somewhere in the next. [2:16:07, 2:16:10]: three to five years. But obviously with annexation [2:16:10, 2:16:12]: That's going to um [2:16:13, 2:16:14]: That's gonna expand things. [2:16:14, 2:16:21]: And so the good thing about at least programming wise is with annexation, what that would require us to do. [2:16:21, 2:16:26]: is to hire more officers to patrol the area and the the thing to our advantage with with that [2:16:27, 2:16:35]: is that uh the officers what we you know th they wouldn't have a need for office space and so it wouldn't that in and of itself wouldn't necessarily [2:16:36, 2:16:36]: Um [2:16:37, 2:16:42]: uh put us in a situation where this building would not meet our needs for future growth. [2:16:42, 2:16:49]: the the forecast that we have incorporates specialized units like a traffic unit. That's something that's gonna be important for us as we move forward. [2:16:49, 2:16:50]: Um [2:16:50, 2:16:53]: You know, we we need folks that are able to work. [2:16:53, 2:16:57]: you know, fatal and serious injury accidents. So we need specialists in that area. [2:16:57, 2:17:02]: We want to have folks that are able to address narcotics issues, so we need to expand our CID. [2:17:02, 2:17:09]: We're going to need to be able to provide um a specialized unit to handle uh crime suppression um activities. [2:17:09, 2:17:13]: uh around the city we're gonna need you know uh folks as we move forward [2:17:13, 2:17:14]: Um [2:17:15, 2:17:23]: uh on the intelligence side of things. And so we've already built into the building programming those specialized positions that we will need into the future. [2:17:24, 2:17:32]: And um you know that that number that I had had thrown out there is still or I'm sorry the the the projection for the building still allows us [2:17:32, 2:17:36]: Room for growth if we add additional positions. [2:17:36, 2:17:43]: Um it it still allows us some some growth for that. But I I guess I don't know if I'm answering your question, uh Councilman Alexander. [2:17:43, 2:17:54]: that that that annexation is going to require us to hire more officers, which is going to be more boots on the street, but it doesn't necessarily mean that they'll be taking up space in the facility because they'll be operating their office as their vehicle. [2:17:55, 2:17:58]: Okay, so the the facility in itself is [2:17:58, 2:17:59]: Um [2:17:59, 2:18:19]: It it it this plan that you put together does anticipate the growth and it is able to expand or to to be able to incorporate these 67 officers into the facility that you have designed. I just want to make sure TSW has designed the facility for the future. [2:18:19, 2:18:20]: Put your [2:18:20, 2:18:21]: And nah. [2:18:21, 2:18:26]: what we currently have so that that growth can be anticipated. So instead of us [2:18:26, 2:18:28]: You know, going out in [2:18:28, 2:18:35]: building the facility and then having to expand it later on. We're doing that now. Is that what you're saying? [2:18:35, 2:18:41]: Yes, and there's room for for growth. And so it meets the it meets the projected needs, but still allows some buffer room. [2:18:42, 2:18:46]: for unforeseen things. So we didn't plan a situation for just what we need. [2:18:47, 2:18:51]: We we still even with that have allowed for a few. I think we have two extra office spaces. [2:18:51, 2:18:55]: In a number of additional cubicle spaces is we add [2:18:55, 2:19:04]: um you know we add some some additional positions to the organization. So I'm fully confident that if we move forward with this, that this building will meet our needs for the next decade. [2:19:05, 2:19:06]: Okay, and Mr. Gardner. [2:19:07, 2:19:18]: Uh in terms of the ARPA funds that the city uh has re has received and the way that we're going about uh financing this particular project. Um [2:19:19, 2:19:26]: Uh Aug is this this your your what's your take on the appropriateness of the plan that the chief has put together? [2:19:27, 2:19:42]: And then uh the uh you know, really because there's there's such limited use of what we can do uh with the ARPA funds in some instances. So obviously we need to be able to use them appropriately. And I certainly I think that this would be [2:19:43, 2:19:51]: and appropriate use of them. So what is your take on on on on this expansion uh in regards to the annexation and the growth of the city? [2:19:52, 2:19:59]: Um and and this is something we discuss, um, the chief and I. Um [2:19:59, 2:20:01]: after our meeting and [2:20:01, 2:20:19]: I realized obviously I had to get him up to speed because I need to let him know what what it what the potential future look like. So he don't get hit over the head and then run off on us in the middle of the night and don't come back. Um so I kinda let him know that you know this is this is where we potentially could be. [2:20:19, 2:20:21]: Obviously, um [2:20:21, 2:20:28]: And what that would mean from a service delivery standpoint as as well as the police. Um, good part about it is, you know. [2:20:28, 2:20:31]: Yes, the growth will w it will add to the city. [2:20:32, 2:20:37]: You know, hopefully most of the areas that we're we're we're looking at adding won't add any. [2:20:37, 2:20:57]: additional day-to-day crime issues, uh more so from a patrol standpoint, I think as Chief said, those that's where those officers will be. Um so as it relates to the use of the APA funds, obviously um the city did do a bond for the three million dollars. That portion is being utilized um to [2:20:57, 2:21:14]: to facilitate the construction of the building. Um the splosh funds is obviously being utilized to to augment the addition and the cost to get us to where we need to be, as well as the just under 100,000 for the opera funds. But in terms of the overall police use of it, um [2:21:15, 2:21:35]: Yes. I I I I feel comfortable that, you know, we're moving in the right direction with it. I will tell you that um before I left East Point, we increased police salaries to fifty-three, fifty-five, bought twenty buy in the prison buying twenty-nine, twenty-five new cars. Um we had left initially looked at transferring [2:21:34, 2:21:40]: um electric funds from electric to general fund to make that happen. [2:21:41, 2:21:41]: You know [2:21:42, 2:21:54]: Upon watching the meeting with Chief Chairman and talking to him after I got here, I think that position changed. They're actually utilizing some of the opera funds to augment that their cost from the electric fund. So yes, uh there's a good move. [2:21:56, 2:22:00]: Well well obviously that's um something that we uh [2:22:02, 2:22:03]: It is just [2:22:03, 2:22:08]: Obviously this is some something it this is a fortunate for us. I'm thinking that [2:22:08, 2:22:10]: You know, if this had happened [2:22:11, 2:22:13]: And we hadn't anticipated the growth. [2:22:13, 2:22:14]: We didn't have the ARPA funds. [2:22:15, 2:22:19]: But the three million dollars in the bond, Mr. Wiggins, we haven't spent any of that. [2:22:20, 2:22:20]: The Dacon. [2:22:21, 2:22:36]: Oh so we haven't spent any of that. So the three million dollars that we bonded to start the police department, we could use all three million dollars. That's the ch that's your that's what your plan is, Chief, is to use that money uh for the facility. Is that correct? [2:22:39, 2:22:40]: Yes, sir, that's correct. [2:22:41, 2:22:46]: And and as you as it relates to ARPA, there are things on that um on that project if we could [2:22:46, 2:22:48]: defer even the splost funds. [2:22:49, 2:22:55]: Um I I think as it relates to the the IT, uh the infrastructure of two hundred and some thousand and also [2:22:55, 2:22:57]: uh security. [2:22:57, 2:23:00]: And uh access control, those may be things that [2:23:00, 2:23:02]: It would fall under that umbrella which which [2:23:03, 2:23:12]: you know, would would be somewhere in the ballpark of three hundred and twenty five to three hundred and fifty thousand dollars in ARPA funds that could potentially be utilized for those specific a specific elements of the project. [2:23:13, 2:23:33]: Right, right. That was good that that's what I'm leading to is that the the ARP we we're we're using the ARPA funds for this, but in terms of the overall infrastructure and the water and sewer, and you mentioned some trenching, obviously that's infrastructure uh for the building. So obviously uh we want to be able to uh save the other [2:23:33, 2:23:42]: Funds because they're more flexible. So I certainly would suggest that we would use more ARPA funds and allow those PLOS funds to be used. [2:23:42, 2:23:46]: uh in in in other areas because we have some flexibility. [2:23:47, 2:23:48]: Uh in the philosophers. [2:23:49, 2:24:07]: uh what you have works. But if there's availability to use uh those ARPA funds instead of using the SPLOSS funds, that kind of gives us uh another we could we have more flexibility because the ARPA funds are like this is the narrow trench in order to use that. So [2:24:07, 2:24:09]: What are your thoughts on that? [2:24:10, 2:24:11]: Yeah, so [2:24:11, 2:24:23]: Obviously I think that it would probably be more beneficial to us. And one of the things that we've taken consideration, and I think I provided something to Mr. Gardner so he could share with it, at least you, Mayor Pro Tem, regarding the utilization of ARPA funds. [2:24:23, 2:24:24]: to this point. [2:24:24, 2:24:31]: Um sitting down with with Mr. Aaron and Mr. Wiggins, just kinda looking, we'd anticipated police department wise that we would [2:24:31, 2:24:40]: We we would use probably about half of that. Um about five and a half million dollars overall for all the department, uh all the the startup costs. [2:24:40, 2:24:46]: Um, I think to date we used about four point eight. And so if we stick with that five point five number, not to say we have to. [2:24:46, 2:24:53]: You know, that still leaves us, you know, somewhere in the ballpark to seven, eight hundred thousand dollars that we'd not utilize. So we could [2:24:53, 2:24:59]: I think there's some things with this building project that that would fall under that that we could offset and so [2:24:59, 2:25:02]: In terms of prioritizing if it's the the [2:25:02, 2:25:05]: the the consensus of the council we could after the bond [2:25:06, 2:25:10]: Um or even before the bond to the extent possible, utilize the ARPA funds. [2:25:10, 2:25:16]: Um, you know, first and foremost before we dip into any of the other funds necessary to complete the project. [2:25:17, 2:25:20]: And then you said that you have spoken to Mr. Wall. [2:25:20, 2:25:23]: about the financials in terms of verifying these. [2:25:23, 2:25:25]: available phones and those um [2:25:26, 2:25:28]: uh about loads of the available funds. [2:25:29, 2:25:40]: Uh I didn't speak to Mr. Wall specifically, but Mr. Wiggins um at at at uh my asking did reach out to Mr. Wall and uh verified with me he confirmed that data with Mr. Wall that those funds were available. [2:25:41, 2:25:45]: Is that correct, Mr. Wiggins? Is that you you spoke to Mr. Wall? [2:25:45, 2:25:47]: Are you confirmed that with him? [2:25:48, 2:25:50]: I did. I confirmed with Mr. Wall that um [2:25:51, 2:25:52]: The nine million. [2:25:53, 2:25:54]: Was um [2:25:55, 2:25:57]: We're gonna use that to um [2:25:57, 2:25:59]: For the Cultural Art Center. [2:25:59, 2:26:00]: Pay down the loan. [2:26:01, 2:26:03]: For that, but the but the point eight. [2:26:04, 2:26:06]: Is what's available in civic projects after that. [2:26:08, 2:26:10]: We didn't we didn't include the point eight into that nine million. [2:26:11, 2:26:21]: Absolutely. And and the best thing, and I'm gonna close by saying this, is that, you know, the original splash was calculated at 240 million. [2:26:21, 2:26:29]: And it's at record collection at this point. So we might end up total countywide a$250 million. [2:26:29, 2:26:38]: Uh in SPLOSS collection or even in CSI. So those account numbers could actually grow in excess to what we were actually expecting. [2:26:39, 2:26:39]: Thank you. [2:26:40, 2:26:40]: Um [2:26:41, 2:26:43]: Any other questions for Mr. the Chief Tremor? [2:26:43, 2:26:44]: At all. [2:26:45, 2:26:46]: Yeah. [2:26:46, 2:26:47]: Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [2:26:48, 2:26:53]: Chief, um good evening again. Uh the numbers that you had displayed earlier. [2:26:53, 2:26:58]: Were those combined numbers were those numbers separate to be combined for seven? [2:26:59, 2:27:02]: Like seven uh six million seven hundred and forty four th plus [2:27:02, 2:27:04]: Thousand dollars, six million seven hundred forty four. [2:27:05, 2:27:08]: Two seven five is what I kind of came up with. [2:27:09, 2:27:13]: I don't six million is not that's it was three point nine, I believe. [2:27:13, 2:27:17]: So those two numbers when he because one said additional costs. [2:27:18, 2:27:33]: So you're not you're not adding those two lines together. You're just showing additional costs in addition to which come out to a total of three. You're absolutely you're absolutely correct, sir. And let me um if you don't mind, I can share the screen again if you would like so you can see those numbers. [2:27:33, 2:27:35]: And and understand too that um [2:27:37, 2:27:39]: That uh were you all able to see that? [2:27:39, 2:27:41]: Yes, sir, we do. Got it. Okay. [2:27:42, 2:27:44]: Yeah, see how you got you got the two million. [2:27:45, 2:27:47]: Seven ninety two, seven fifty. [2:27:47, 2:27:53]: But then that's a total there, total renovation cost. But then you got it's almost like you got additional costs. [2:27:54, 2:27:54]: Which [2:27:55, 2:27:56]: Looks like with that. [2:27:57, 2:27:58]: Will be the three [2:27:58, 2:28:00]: Uh point nine mil. [2:28:00, 2:28:06]: Yeah, I could've I I guess could have been a little more clear on that. It's basically adding these up, which gets us to three point six. [2:28:06, 2:28:10]: This is ten percent contingency for the total project cost of three point nine. [2:28:11, 2:28:21]: Got okay, got you. What uh so at this point that the the building, and I haven't toured the the whole building, it doesn't have an upstairs right now. Is that is that correct? Yes, sir, that's correct. [2:28:22, 2:28:28]: And so this will be a really a total build out. What would be the square footage after the total build out? [2:28:29, 2:28:34]: Carl, correct me if I'm wrong. I think it's just a little over eighteen thousand square feet. [2:28:34, 2:28:36]: Correct. It's take right at eighteen thousand. [2:28:37, 2:28:39]: By the eighteen thousand. Mm-hmm. [2:28:40, 2:28:41]: Okay. [2:28:42, 2:28:46]: All right. And so what we're looking at is the three million dollars from the um [2:28:47, 2:28:50]: The three million dollars from the bond. [2:28:50, 2:28:55]: And then we're gonna you're gonna look at the other avenues for the uh rest. Is that what you're saying? [2:28:55, 2:29:00]: Yes, sir. And we could prioritize ARPA funding. So things like IT, the two twenty you see here. [2:29:01, 2:29:06]: And then security and access control, these things we may be able to utilize ARPA funds to offset those costs. [2:29:08, 2:29:16]: Okay. And so with with the total being the uh the three million nine hundred and fifty one thousand five twenty-five, you're just gonna kind of let us know. [2:29:17, 2:29:22]: Uh, I guess get with uh uh finance and get with Mr. Walls and find out how we're gonna finagle that and [2:29:22, 2:29:26]: Come up with the cost, uh total cost on that as soon as you can. [2:29:27, 2:29:28]: Mr. Gardner, do you want to speak to that? [2:29:29, 2:29:32]: Yeah, I I and Mr. Blount, I don't know. I mean the the costs [2:29:32, 2:29:45]: Well, stay the same is just the source of the funding is where it's gonna come from. But forgive me, then I'm um I'm um then forgive me with the cost. Then what I'm saying is, are you guys gonna get with uh Mr. Walls? [2:29:45, 2:29:49]: You know, we got because uh I think Mr. Alexander referenced to [2:29:49, 2:29:53]: Um not wanting to use those other funds out of uh SPLOSS. [2:29:53, 2:29:59]: So are we gonna look at other avenues rather than putting those uh funds from splots that have already been identified? [2:30:00, 2:30:05]: Uh and maybe using ARPA funds to compensate for the rest that we need for the uh completion. [2:30:05, 2:30:25]: That is correct. And and you know, that'll be uh a quick email feedback to let you guys know that yes, we were able to utilize the APA funds, additional APA funds for IT and and security access at that amount. Um, that would offset the use of additional either um splits funds or the use of the bond money. [2:30:25, 2:30:30]: Um but definitely we'll we'll we'll shoot an email once we verify so you guys will know. [2:30:30, 2:30:38]: Okay, yeah, cheap cheap you kinda scared me with those two numbers. I didn't know you had to. I'm sorry. Yeah, I should have been more clear with that. And just so you all know, um [2:30:39, 2:30:41]: We already have the demo plans. [2:30:41, 2:30:48]: prepared. So if council approves this, uh we could we could get started with demolition here in the next couple of weeks. Is that right, Carl? [2:30:51, 2:30:57]: You are correct. Uh I think we gotta make a slight tweak to the demo plans and then we can get the price permitted and get started. [2:30:57, 2:30:59]: Within about three weeks. [2:30:59, 2:31:06]: Well, Chief Trainer ru uh just the feedback, uh just a this another follow-up. So Carl, from from the beginning. [2:31:07, 2:31:12]: to the completion of paperwork dealing with TSA, dealing with your end on the management part. [2:31:12, 2:31:20]: When when do we expect the break ground for it? And what do y'all have a projection date for completion? Because if you're talking about implementation of [2:31:20, 2:31:26]: uh the stop British police department by June and July, then how is that going to kind of come together? I'm just trying to [2:31:27, 2:31:41]: Yeah. No, that that's a great question. Um, because the biggest concern that I've had since I've been involved in the project is how do we get this much work done by July one? And it's uh we really can't. Uh but Chief and I worked out [2:31:41, 2:32:01]: Uh kind of a I'm not I don't want to use the word phase, but it's a uh two separate completions. We're gonna have a certain amount of this project completed by July one so that he can move his department in. And then we've segregated some additional work that he doesn't need right away that will continue to go on for several months after July. [2:32:01, 2:32:02]: I want [2:32:02, 2:32:06]: Uh so we should be able to complete everything. I'm I'm thinking around September one. [2:32:07, 2:32:25]: Um so we got the demolition drawings done. Uh so we'd be able to start on that in about three weeks. Uh we want to be able to start on the reconstruction uh around April 1. Uh so that gives us about three months to get the first part of this project ready and moved in. [2:32:25, 2:32:29]: Um and then the rest of the project will occur uh beyond that. [2:32:30, 2:32:30]: Um [2:32:31, 2:32:36]: We also an another good thing about involving uh state contracts is we've identified [2:32:37, 2:32:57]: uh some items that we are going to need to get early procurement release on uh because it just takes a long time to get certain uh pieces of equipment and furniture and things like that. So we've we've initiated getting early procurements done and we've also spent a lot of time um and we'll spend more time uh working [2:32:57, 2:33:02]: supply chain issues every construction project is having those and we want to be able to [2:33:02, 2:33:14]: identify those. Another good reason to be working on state contract and having a contractor on board is that we can identify supply chain issues and overcome those without it affecting our completion dates. [2:33:15, 2:33:20]: Yeah. Chief, just one quick mayor. Chief, do you have a content plan in place? [2:33:20, 2:33:27]: Uh just uh t are you gonna have to utilize the court building or anything in the midst of this process or have you what do you have in place? [2:33:28, 2:33:31]: This it's gonna come together. I just wanna kind of know what what's what's the plan. [2:33:32, 2:33:33]: Yes, sir. So [2:33:33, 2:33:34]: Yeah. [2:33:35, 2:33:40]: the the most logical thing to do would be to set up in the lower level the Merrill Manders Conference Center. [2:33:41, 2:33:45]: And to operate out of the event space there and the event that we're not able to [2:33:45, 2:33:47]: facility by July one. [2:33:48, 2:33:48]: Right. [2:33:49, 2:34:00]: Mayor Pro Tem Thomas, go ahead, please. Okay, I I know uh the conversation is going a little long, but I'm gonna just tell you my my concern here, and I guess um um Mr. Berry. [2:34:00, 2:34:03]: Uh Mr. Garner Carl and Chief. [2:34:03, 2:34:04]: Um [2:34:05, 2:34:21]: My site is still on when we we we mentioned civic projects and I know with the opera funds uh for infrastructure uh and I know we talked about the culture art facility. So my question to Mr. Berry and and I and I guess Mr. Gardner. [2:34:22, 2:34:29]: When and if uh grant funds become available, uh can those funds um [2:34:30, 2:34:33]: be reallocated uh to [2:34:33, 2:34:34]: Um [2:34:35, 2:34:37]: And I guess in a sense go back to [2:34:38, 2:34:58]: uh some of the funding sources that we use um beforehand. Because one thing that I I I will be focusing in on is making sure that uh when it comes time for the cultural arts, um that some of that opera fund are still available for the infrastructure [2:34:58, 2:35:00]: construction for that facility. [2:35:00, 2:35:05]: That's what I was mentioning earlier because I'm looking at a total. [2:35:05, 2:35:25]: um uh view of everything we need to do, not only just the police department, uh chief. I'm looking at the overall picture and no one has said anything about trails, even though we're not talking about the trails, but I'm just saying, you know, we had to be real careful. And that's why uh Mr. Garden, I'm talking about [2:35:25, 2:35:45]: you know, having someone on board to go out there and and to help look for some funds because I know it's going to be needed. So I I want to include in the motion um that if funds become available, that they are able to be uh re-reallocated. So if if Mr. [2:35:45, 2:35:53]: Mr. Barrett can sort of just respond to that because um that's my perspective. Uh I'm looking at a total [2:35:54, 2:35:58]: um funding package. I'm looking at the other civic projects. [2:35:58, 2:36:03]: Um and we have to sort of have that kind of view. And I know uh mayor um [2:36:03, 2:36:06]: Uh Councilman Alexander was sort of [2:36:06, 2:36:11]: sort of talking there and I just didn't want make sure that he's you know we're not crossing over. [2:36:12, 2:36:14]: Taking funds from Peter. [2:36:14, 2:36:17]: to try to, you know, uh supply Paul. [2:36:19, 2:36:26]: So Mr. Barrett, so I I'm I'm not sure did I did I explain that correctly? Did you understand the question correctly? [2:36:26, 2:36:29]: about reallocation of funds if they [2:36:29, 2:36:30]: become available. [2:36:31, 2:36:33]: Yes, council member. I [2:36:33, 2:36:36]: Yeah, I understood the question and I think that could all be done. [2:36:36, 2:36:45]: uh sort of moving funds from one bucket to another and would just need to be reallocated by council if and when those funds became available in the future. [2:36:45, 2:36:48]: So should that be in a motion now or wait until that time? [2:36:49, 2:36:52]: I would wait until that time. I mean, you you've got [2:36:52, 2:37:10]: The option exists now, but you would the the motion would be better in the future when it actually is done. So you could say move from you know fund X to fund Y or something more specific. But I I understand the sentiment, but I I would recommend actually doing it. Or or you could put a resolution in now saying [2:37:10, 2:37:14]: If future funds become available, this council will, you know. [2:37:14, 2:37:18]: consider and approve as necessary, something like that, but and leave the specifics to next time. [2:37:19, 2:37:21]: Whenever uh those funds are available. [2:37:24, 2:37:28]: All right. Thank you. Thank you. Um, but that that is my concern. Um [2:37:29, 2:37:36]: So if you're saying that the motion is not needed now or sh is that correct, the motion is not needed at this point. [2:37:38, 2:37:39]: Well [2:37:39, 2:37:43]: That's right. I mean, because you the the council has that authority anyway to do it. [2:37:44, 2:37:52]: So you all you were doing would just be recognizing that authority. So I would just wait till next time, you know, wait or once you know what funds exists. [2:37:52, 2:37:56]: And then just do it then, you know, with with uh specific language. [2:37:56, 2:38:04]: So I I'll just ask Mr. Gardener at our next meeting if you could uh give us an update on the uh cultural arts and where we are. [2:38:05, 2:38:06]: Funding wise as well. [2:38:08, 2:38:16]: I know we do have a schedule of uh construction uh that Hel Heather gave us some time ago. I think um [2:38:16, 2:38:22]: during the budget re during our budget cycle, but I just want to make sure that that schedule is still true. [2:38:22, 2:38:28]: Yes, sir. And I wasn't sure when you was mentioning the issue of [2:38:28, 2:38:34]: being able to go after grants to replace costs that we've already spent. I wasn't sure if you were saying that or not. [2:38:35, 2:38:38]: Um, if that was the case, that's gonna be problematic. [2:38:38, 2:38:49]: Um most grants don't anticipate retro. Yeah, they don't anticipate retro paying back for something. It's really rare. Um and I haven't seen it with any of the funds that have come out lately. [2:38:49, 2:38:55]: Um but and are they earmarked most grants? Are they sort of earmarked specifically? [2:38:55, 2:39:13]: They have they have different activities, what they call eligible activities for which you can spend those funds on. A lot of times it's not gonna cover a retro after cost that let's say for instance, because we spend three million dollars on the police department, can we then go back and reimburse ourselves for that? It's very rare that they do that. [2:39:13, 2:39:14]: Um [2:39:15, 2:39:18]: But I mean, like I say, we'll be looking to make sure. [2:39:19, 2:39:22]: But I will say and and John correct me if I'm wrong. [2:39:23, 2:39:27]: The city's overall ARP funds were somewhere around ten million. [2:39:28, 2:39:30]: Yes, but it's gonna it's gonna [2:39:30, 2:39:32]: So eleven million. [2:39:33, 2:39:37]: So I I want Council to realize too, right? Correct me if I'm wrong. [2:39:37, 2:39:57]: You just got your first installment. There's another installment that's supposed to come sometime this year. So even though you might spend some other funds now as it relates to this, realize you still have a set of funds that are coming down the road that you can put to other things as well. And I think we're having the twenty six, I think, to be able to use them all. Well, yeah. [2:39:57, 2:40:00]: Yeah. But but the second phase of your funding hasn't come yet. [2:40:00, 2:40:13]: You just got one phase of it. There's two phases that are that are going to be spent sent to you. Right um so you still have another five point something million dollars that uh that potentially come to the city um sometime between now and the summer. [2:40:13, 2:40:20]: And we have until twenty twenty six to to use. [2:40:20, 2:40:22]: The the critical part about this is [2:40:22, 2:40:41]: the initial rules have changed. So whereby there was only five areas you could spend the money on, they've expanded those uses. Um they've become a little bit more liberal with how you can spend the money. Um, but that's something that we we we have to keep track of over time. Um [2:40:41, 2:40:52]: You know, as we go through this process. So definitely I just want you all to remember that you still have some funds that are coming to you. So it's not that if this part of money is spent on this. [2:40:52, 2:40:55]: Then all of a sudden you don't have an opportunity later now. There's still [2:40:56, 2:41:04]: There's still that additional funds. And I don't know if you guys spoke to that prior to me coming on board as to what y'all wanted to see those funds utilized for. Um [2:41:04, 2:41:17]: And if that's not the case, then obviously that's a meeting, a work session, or somewhere where we can actually sit down and say, hey, this is how we want to allot that next five to six million dollars what we want to allot it on and then we'll move forward in earnest. Okay. [2:41:17, 2:41:22]: Thank you. I yield back, Mayor. This is I know uh Valentine night. I know some of you guys got to get out. [2:41:22, 2:41:29]: Okay. Appreciate it. Casiman Alzheimer, go ahead, please. Yeah. Well I wish. [2:41:31, 2:41:32]: But uh [2:41:32, 2:41:41]: In in in essence, what you're saying i is is what I is you got five more five million dollars more and certainly we want to make sure that we save enough funds for [2:41:41, 2:41:47]: uh the cultural arts center and uh civic projects uh coming down the line for sure. [2:41:47, 2:41:52]: Uh but it looks like I'm I'm just trying to understand this. So Mr. Gardner did we [2:41:53, 2:42:13]: If we're not gonna be finished by July right now, we're we're really under the c under the gun to go ahead and get started. Is that correct? I mean we need to we need this approved yesterday. Is that correct? That's why you see it before you, uh Mr. Alexander and and and Chief. I think like you said, we understand construction time and OV. [2:42:13, 2:42:33]: see as he said supply chain issues. So their goal is not not a phase, but a tier type of tier. Well their their good their actions now between now and July is to be able to try to get the lower level done so that these guys can get in the building without having to use up any other city resource or city facilities. That's that's what they're shooting for. [2:42:33, 2:42:45]: the entire completion, I think, as as uh project manager said is September one. But they're moving with the goal of being in that space, um, specifically on the lower level by July one. [2:42:45, 2:42:54]: So you you need a vote from the council a ASAP. Is that that's that's why it's on the agenda, yes sir. Okay, so councilman Thomas said you you said you were gonna make a motion. [2:42:58, 2:43:18]: I'm sorry, I was asking Mr. Berry uh in the motion, should the reallocation be a part of that? And he sort of um the way he explained it, uh that did not have to be a part of the reallocation, did not have to be a part of any motion tonight. We can just wait until. [2:43:18, 2:43:23]: uh when and if grant funds come down we can sort of do it then but you can go ahead and make the motion [2:43:25, 2:43:45]: Okay, well okay. Well I'd like to go ahead and uh make the motion. Councilwoman barber, you had your hand up. Did you want to speak before me? Yeah, I was gonna get to her if you allow me to run the meeting like this. I was gonna get to her. I I started I didn't want to go. I see our hand up. It is on the agenda, it is on the agenda to vote tonight. Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [2:43:44, 2:43:45]: Please. [2:43:46, 2:43:51]: Stick with the item on the agenda. I was gonna call it point of order, but can we [2:43:51, 2:44:00]: move all right but yeah no problem we got it okay so now no more discussion then obviously there's a motion needs to be made please so move all right so [2:44:00, 2:44:05]: Ms. Gantt second that okay. So plenty plenty discussed. Do all in favor, all please indicate. [2:44:06, 2:44:26]: Okay, so I listen to the NAMS decision. Okay, fantastic. All right, Chief. Way to go. Uh council's consideration to approve the purchase of furniture for the Stockbridge Police Department Headquarters building from uh HON company. SPD 0000100-009. [2:44:26, 2:44:35]: In the amount of$227,4.34. And funding source says police bond. Chief Tremor, please. [2:44:35, 2:44:40]: I wanted to clarify on this and I was asking Mr. Garner in in is is a I guess as a point of [2:44:41, 2:44:46]: just just have a go about this. Uh council's already obviously approved the overall budget. This is [2:44:46, 2:44:56]: something that's actually included within that budget. It was my understanding that anything over 75,000 would still need to come before council for final approval. So even though you've approved [2:44:56, 2:45:02]: the three point nine that we still need to bring um uh projects such as this before council. [2:45:03, 2:45:07]: For final approval, that was my understanding, which is why it's on the agenda uh this evening. [2:45:07, 2:45:09]: Uh so if if if [2:45:09, 2:45:12]: That's the case. Um, go ahead, councilman. [2:45:13, 2:45:14]: Mm-hmm. [2:45:14, 2:45:22]: Well, I think we're just doing it twice. We've already seen it in the budget. And so if we have to vote on it, then I move that we approve. [2:45:22, 2:45:23]: Um [2:45:23, 2:45:31]: The purchase of the department heads building, which has already been discussed in item number 22 here, that's already part of the budget. [2:45:32, 2:45:37]: Better second uh Miss Barber second that okay so it doesn't seem like there needs to be any discussion. [2:45:38, 2:45:41]: Okay, on on that note, then all in favor, please indicate. [2:45:42, 2:45:48]: Okay. It's that unanimous decision. Fantastic. Okay. Thank you all. Appreciate your support. Thank you, Chief. [2:45:48, 2:45:55]: All right, next we added a to the agenda discussion about the management of amphitheater. Ms. Barber, you brought this up. So [2:45:55, 2:45:56]: Uh [2:45:56, 2:45:57]: What's your desires here? [2:45:59, 2:46:03]: Thank you, Mayor and members of council. [2:46:03, 2:46:07]: So I've been attempting to get answers of my c my concerns. [2:46:07, 2:46:11]: Regarding the amphitheater, specifically in the beginning. [2:46:11, 2:46:13]: The contract language that was presented to the council. [2:46:14, 2:46:16]: in preparation of our August council meeting. [2:46:17, 2:46:21]: Was not the language that had been presented to the council. [2:46:21, 2:46:23]: even after the conditions were added. [2:46:24, 2:46:28]: The revised contract was never brought back to the council for approval. [2:46:29, 2:46:35]: So far, the management company has been responsible for managing our two concerts at the end of 2021. [2:46:36, 2:46:39]: The city has sustained losses from both concerts. [2:46:39, 2:46:42]: including the first concert that was sold out. [2:46:43, 2:46:48]: It has been five months and the council has not been provided with detailed accounting. [2:46:49, 2:46:51]: Despite my many requests. [2:46:52, 2:46:55]: The city needs to make it clear regarding exclusive rights. [2:46:56, 2:46:58]: and the management company company. [2:46:58, 2:47:00]: is not authorized to negotiate. [2:47:00, 2:47:02]: With Pepsi regarding sponsorship. [2:47:02, 2:47:04]: On our behalf. [2:47:04, 2:47:06]: Because discussions with Pepsi. [2:47:06, 2:47:08]: We're already ongoing. [2:47:09, 2:47:10]: prior to the council. [2:47:10, 2:47:12]: Approving a management contract. [2:47:13, 2:47:14]: Mr. Knighton knew it. [2:47:15, 2:47:16]: The two attorneys knew it. [2:47:17, 2:47:20]: And two of my councilmates knew it because I told them. [2:47:21, 2:47:23]: This is an important issue. [2:47:23, 2:47:25]: I do not want our city. [2:47:25, 2:47:26]: To miss out on. [2:47:26, 2:47:28]: A grand opportunity. [2:47:29, 2:47:32]: If you all watched the Super Bowl as I did, you would have noticed. [2:47:33, 2:47:35]: That Pepsi was a major sponsor. [2:47:35, 2:47:37]: of the halftime show. [2:47:39, 2:47:41]: I am really looking forward. [2:47:42, 2:47:43]: to hearing. [2:47:45, 2:47:49]: Or continuing the discussions with Pepsi. [2:47:49, 2:47:51]: In regards to a sponsorship. [2:47:54, 2:47:55]: with our city. [2:47:56, 2:47:57]: No one. [2:47:58, 2:47:59]: Отон Росі. [2:48:00, 2:48:05]: should be having conversations with Pepsi regarding sponsorships. [2:48:06, 2:48:07]: Naming rights. [2:48:09, 2:48:11]: The city and the city attorneys. [2:48:12, 2:48:14]: should be having those discussions directly. [2:48:15, 2:48:16]: With Pepsi. [2:48:17, 2:48:19]: All of the questions that I've sent. [2:48:20, 2:48:23]: Prior to us awarding a contract. [2:48:23, 2:48:26]: to a management company have gone unanswered. [2:48:27, 2:48:33]: Every single question I've asked, every concern that I've raised, I've been dismissed. [2:48:34, 2:48:36]: Just disregard it. [2:48:37, 2:48:39]: Everything I've asked has been delayed. [2:48:40, 2:48:41]: Not answered. [2:48:41, 2:48:43]: So I want to get those questions answered. [2:48:43, 2:48:47]: There were fourteen questions that I posed. [2:48:47, 2:48:49]: To my councilmates. [2:48:49, 2:48:51]: To our city attorney. [2:48:51, 2:48:53]: Just a few weeks ago. [2:48:53, 2:48:56]: Um back in January also. [2:48:57, 2:49:00]: I want to read all of those questions into the record. [2:49:04, 2:49:04]: But [2:49:05, 2:49:07]: I suggest that we task our staff. [2:49:07, 2:49:17]: Mr. Gardner and the city attorneys to speak directly with Pepsi executives when there are hundreds of thousands of dollars that are potentially [2:49:18, 2:49:19]: on the table. [2:49:19, 2:49:23]: through a naming rights sponsorship. Now I'm saying potentially. [2:49:23, 2:49:24]: Because I don't know. [2:49:25, 2:49:28]: All I know is your initial conversation. [2:49:28, 2:49:29]: Myself. [2:49:29, 2:49:35]: Mr. Knighton along with Pepsi executives had in April of 2021. [2:49:37, 2:49:42]: As the current contract is with the management company, there's a 70-30. [2:49:42, 2:49:44]: Revenue split. [2:49:45, 2:49:49]: The management company received seventy percent of a sponsorship. [2:49:50, 2:49:51]: I will reiterate. [2:49:52, 2:49:52]: Pepsi. [2:49:53, 2:49:54]: was already. [2:49:54, 2:49:55]: At the table. [2:49:55, 2:49:57]: having discussions with the city. [2:49:58, 2:49:59]: prior to us. [2:49:59, 2:50:03]: approving a management contract of the amphitheater. [2:50:04, 2:50:05]: Oh reiterate. [2:50:05, 2:50:06]: Mr. Knight knew it. [2:50:07, 2:50:09]: The attorneys knew it. [2:50:10, 2:50:24]: I'm gonna just this is about the fifth time I've told you I was not involved in any of those discussions. I don't know if you were involved with the well I've told you I wasn't involved four or five times, so please stop saying that. But I was told. [2:50:25, 2:50:44]: That when I told you differently four or five times, I was never involved or aware. That Pepsi was having discussions. Point of order. Point of order. We're throwing this point of order. We're throwing the we're throwing this major potential person's name out there now. Stop. I will continue. [2:50:45, 2:51:03]: I will continue. But the uh it's not about us, it's about the company. The company has a brand. They don't want their name thrown out there like that. I suggest that all the concerns that have been raised prior to company eight after the approval of the management company's contract be addressed quickly. [2:51:03, 2:51:05]: Time is of the essence. [2:51:05, 2:51:11]: All right, that let me mention this. No contract be signed by the city with the management company. [2:51:12, 2:51:20]: Regarding sponsorships, until all of those questions are addressed, many of which I have constantly asked about. [2:51:21, 2:51:26]: prior to and after the council approved the management contract. [2:51:27, 2:51:29]: Today is February fourteenth. [2:51:30, 2:51:31]: My questions. [2:51:32, 2:51:33]: Have been disregarded. [2:51:33, 2:51:37]: prolonged, dismissed since April. [2:51:37, 2:51:39]: Oh twenty, twenty-one. [2:51:39, 2:51:42]: This is not about a win for Yolanda. [2:51:42, 2:51:45]: This is about a win for our city. [2:51:46, 2:51:48]: All right. Well let me let me [2:51:48, 2:51:49]: No. [2:51:50, 2:51:58]: They agreed to provide us with printouts of ticket sales, food and beverage, and alcohol sales from the two concerts in 2021. [2:51:58, 2:52:01]: As of today, the city has not received them. [2:52:02, 2:52:05]: We've asked that they provide us access to the city. [2:52:05, 2:52:06]: Two [2:52:06, 2:52:10]: The vendor software to track food and beverage sales. [2:52:11, 2:52:13]: The toast or point of sale software. [2:52:14, 2:52:19]: I've asked that they provide documentation of the marketing campaign or strategy. [2:52:19, 2:52:24]: To demonstrate that it was executed as outlined in the contract. [2:52:24, 2:52:29]: We don't know if all of the advertisement as agreed was [2:52:29, 2:52:30]: Done. [2:52:31, 2:52:40]: Fourth point, all communications regarding upcoming concerts, events should be directed to and acknowledged by the city manager. [2:52:41, 2:52:42]: prior to any [2:52:42, 2:52:45]: promotions by management companies. [2:52:46, 2:52:47]: As a [2:52:47, 2:52:49]: Today? I don't know. [2:52:50, 2:52:53]: If a management company has notified the city. [2:52:53, 2:52:56]: What I do know is when I sent [2:52:56, 2:53:00]: These questions to the mayor and council in January. [2:53:01, 2:53:07]: That very day, Calcman Alexander began promoting it on his Because we care page. [2:53:08, 2:53:10]: But the management company [2:53:10, 2:53:13]: Гагнат офіційно сіті. [2:53:14, 2:53:16]: that they were promoting an upcoming show. [2:53:20, 2:53:21]: Do you know their website? [2:53:22, 2:53:35]: Listed on the Stockbridgeamp.com website. However, the city manager, the mayor and council, nor the public information officer were made aware when I sent this email in January. [2:53:35, 2:53:41]: that day that councilman alexander began blasting it on his because of care page. [2:53:41, 2:53:42]: It is important. [2:53:42, 2:53:48]: Because the PIO officer nor any member of the governing body have been notified. [2:53:48, 2:53:51]: nor had the public been notified. [2:53:51, 2:53:57]: That the tickets on their website. It was on the city web, it was on the startbridge. [2:53:57, 2:54:01]: It was on Stockbridge.com website, but the city itself. [2:54:02, 2:54:07]: What have not been notified, we know the Stockbridge Amphitheater website is not ran by the city. [2:54:08, 2:54:10]: Right, so it was available to the public. [2:54:10, 2:54:30]: Fifth point, if you allow me to finish, we need to address exclusive rights. The city does not want to limit itself by only hosting community events. There should not be any restrictions that suggest that the city cannot use its own venue to host concerts, as long as the event or concert [2:54:30, 2:54:34]: does not conflict in dates or performances as scheduled [2:54:35, 2:54:36]: by the management company. [2:54:36, 2:54:38]: Number six. [2:54:38, 2:54:40]: The stakeholders in our county are important. [2:54:41, 2:54:49]: Developing long-term partnerships and relationships is or should be the goal of this council. It's certainly my goal. [2:54:49, 2:54:52]: Not just relationships that bind us by contracts. [2:54:53, 2:54:55]: Our community and county partner. [2:54:55, 2:54:59]: Are important to our city's current and future successes. [2:54:59, 2:55:01]: We need to garner their support. [2:55:01, 2:55:03]: and buy into the vision of our city. [2:55:04, 2:55:07]: The amphitheat amphitheater is one way to leverage support. [2:55:08, 2:55:13]: Pete Monthry Hospital and Legacy Ford are stakeholders in our community. [2:55:14, 2:55:14]: In our county. [2:55:15, 2:55:21]: Yet advertisements of other vendors outside of our community and our county have been made a priority. [2:55:22, 2:55:40]: And our mayor and the website. Hold on. Parking attendance. Indicate who will consume the cost. [2:55:41, 2:55:45]: If I can please finish before everybody starts cutting me off. [2:55:45, 2:55:49]: Okay, because I sent this email and I asked specifically for my councilmates. [2:55:50, 2:55:53]: To please respond with their questions and concerns. [2:55:53, 2:55:55]: They didn't respond. [2:55:55, 2:56:00]: put all of this i have a point of order um i'm not i'm not finished yet [2:56:00, 2:56:20]: And I would ask that you would at least hear my point of order. All of the actions that are necessary. State it. They're not specifically stated. Can it talk about it? [2:56:20, 2:56:32]: Ms. Barber, can you stand by all you have to do is hit the mute button. Well, well some well I'll tell you I'll tell you what, somehow I don't have control of that, sir, at this point. Or I would do that. You have a city clerk that it's all you have to do is give a direction. [2:56:33, 2:56:40]: If I may, Mayor Ford, but I have questions here before my councilmates start cutting it off. [2:56:41, 2:56:43]: So then I can throw horses all day, please. [2:56:44, 2:56:45]: Maybe a co host. [2:56:46, 2:56:49]: I'm sorry. [2:56:50, 2:56:52]: I like to finish. [2:56:53, 2:57:03]: Since I asked to add this item to the agenda agenda and you all um we gotta do better than this. [2:57:05, 2:57:06]: Okay, Miss Okay. [2:57:07, 2:57:10]: I like to add Robert standby, please. [2:57:11, 2:57:12]: Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [2:57:13, 2:57:14]: Mair. [2:57:15, 2:57:18]: The discussion is all off right now. [2:57:18, 2:57:31]: If the discussion is about the contract with G uh Georgia Radio Alliance, then we stick with the contract. When we start going into who we're missing out on, on all the things outside out of that boundaries. [2:57:31, 2:57:36]: That's for Miss Barber to come down to City Hall and speak to you all about why you're not getting back with her. [2:57:36, 2:57:40]: That's for Miss Barber to come down and speak to you all, why you haven't responded to her. [2:57:40, 2:57:46]: This is not the place to air all of her laundry on what she's getting or not getting from staff. [2:57:46, 2:57:50]: If we're going to talk about Georgia Radio Alliance, let's keep it there. [2:57:50, 2:57:59]: Because all the brand and all of these different entities is not Georgia Radio Alliance. If we want to, it said speak about Georgia Radio Alliance contract. [2:58:00, 2:58:06]: And we're not speaking about their contract, we're talking about potentials of other people. [2:58:06, 2:58:08]: That is not what this council agreed to. [2:58:09, 2:58:29]: And we have to be careful and cautious with that because what we're doing right now is getting to something that's very, very, very risky for the city to even be going into. If there's other areas to talk about, amend your amend your uh motion to what you want to talk about. But if it's about G uh Georgia Ray Allowant Alliance, then come. [2:58:29, 2:58:37]: Contract, then that's what we need to stick to, mayor. We can't venture out into what legacy, all of this other stuff. [2:58:37, 2:58:47]: We're gonna be here all night. And if we go off this book that's been written that she's reading from on other stuff other than the contract with Georgia Raider Alliance, then this is out of order. [2:58:48, 2:59:08]: This is totally out of order. It has nothing to do with the contract on what the city is doing or not doing. And if if it's something that she wants and you are in staff or whoever's not getting with Ms. Barber, then that should be had out not right here and not right now because this council agreed to talk about. [2:59:08, 2:59:09]: The contract. [2:59:09, 2:59:10]: No. [2:59:10, 2:59:24]: My motion was to discuss the dra contract is what it was. That's not what my motion was. Stand by, stand by. Miss Miss Holliday, read back the motion, please. Stand by stand by. [2:59:24, 2:59:41]: We added it to the agenda. What did what did what do we actually add to the agenda? What do you have? The motion was to have a discussion on amphitheater management. Thank you. I would like to finish reading all of my points, please. All of the mayor, then that then that then that then that tells you. [2:59:41, 2:59:47]: point of order is what is going on with my point of order the management of an everything [2:59:48, 2:59:54]: Mayor, we can't go down this region, right? We got too much stuff going on to have this. [2:59:57, 3:00:01]: I want to address I want all of my questions and concerns that have been [3:00:01, 3:00:21]: I'd like to finish reading what all your questions and concerns went to the council several several weeks a couple weeks or so ago. And no one responded, just like you know that's something that that's that's something to discuss discuss with you privately. Ms. uh Gantt, please. No, I don't want to have any more private conversations because [3:00:21, 3:00:22]: Well this name. [3:00:22, 3:00:24]: Oh this is Councilwoman Barber? [3:00:25, 3:00:35]: Okay, thank you. I I was in the meeting um with Councilwoman Barber when we did have a discussion with uh Georgia Radio Alliance and I agreed at that point. [3:00:36, 3:00:38]: For whatever questions that she listed at that time. [3:00:39, 3:00:43]: Those were the same questions. So there was no need for me to repeat myself. [3:00:43, 3:00:48]: Um, and that's the only reason I didn't feel the need to respond because I had already said [3:00:48, 3:00:51]: We'll go with the questions that you had already lined up. [3:00:52, 3:01:12]: I did see attorney Berry respond back. He actually sent an email. And in that email, he actually went down a list of all the questions and everything for clarification to make sure that this is what we're going to. These are the questions and things we're approaching with Georgia Radio Alliance. And he did that recently within this past. [3:01:12, 3:01:15]: So he did respond back. [3:01:15, 3:01:19]: Now the time frame of not getting the answers whether or not from my understanding [3:01:19, 3:01:39]: I don't know in regards to management with toast and all those different things. I've heard two different things. I heard we didn't have access to toast, and then I heard that we do have access to toast. I don't know which one that is, but we those things have been discussed, Ms. Barber and Councilwoman Barber. Um, just just so you know, just well just so you [3:01:39, 3:01:47]: You know, and and the same questions that you had were the same, and I said that right there. [3:01:47, 3:02:02]: The count the questions that Councilwoman Barber had, I may have brought up a couple more little issues or the same um, so to speak, concerns. And and that was it. But the count, I mean, attorney Berry did bring them up and he has recognized them. [3:02:02, 3:02:17]: And he did send a a long detailed email in regards to stating these are the concerns and this is what we need to get back to. My last concern is we when we talk about contracts, we're kind of borderline. [3:02:18, 3:02:19]: Contracts can be [3:02:19, 3:02:21]: Executive session talk. [3:02:21, 3:02:26]: when you're talking negotiations. So we're talking about the management of the amphitheater. [3:02:26, 3:02:30]: That's what I thought we were talking about tonight. Not the [3:02:30, 3:02:33]: the long version of what has taken place since. [3:02:34, 3:02:46]: So if we can just get directly to the management of the amphitheater, otherwise I ask that we table or or we talk about this some other time because we'll be here all night um trying to discuss different areas. [3:02:48, 3:03:08]: Now I will tell you, thank you for that, Ms. Gandhi. I'll tell you, Mr. Berry, that's all I have. Those questions on to uh the the management company and waiting for results and and conversation and data back for them as well. I also will tell you there is a contract that does exist, it's unsigned in reference to the Pepsi and reference to the pouring. [3:03:07, 3:03:27]: rights in this aspect is totally unsigned. And I understand that I watched the Super Bowl as well. And I understand that Pepsi was a major sponsor of that. And also the fact that that uh the the the actual negotiation and and discussion along this thing with Pepsi and concerts and point Pepsi. [3:03:27, 3:03:31]: they gonna they they gonna watch this meeting and be like i don't want to deal with this [3:03:31, 3:03:48]: Okay, well the point of it is is that there's more there's more discussion that needs to happen on a sidebar type of conversation in this aspect as well. But uh appreciate that. Now um back stand by Miss Barber. Mm Mr. Blount, go ahead please. [3:03:48, 3:03:53]: Go ahead, mist stand by. Go ahead. I just I just want to say this. [3:03:53, 3:04:05]: The the concerns that the councilwoman bar is bringing up, I'm not gonna discount I'm not gonna discount that they're not valid concerns. There are my concerns as well. [3:04:05, 3:04:13]: Right. I I everything she's bringing up, I I I am concerned about that. They are valid concerns. [3:04:14, 3:04:24]: But I think that we need to make sure that we got a retreat coming. We need to make sure that we're all together and we're speaking in a place in an area and times where. [3:04:24, 3:04:28]: We are not like I I agree with Mr. Alexander, we have to be careful and cautious. [3:04:29, 3:04:40]: On how we're speaking about this. This council knows what we want. Everything that she's brought up, I'm not discounting those concerns. I am very deeply concerned about what's going on with this. [3:04:40, 3:04:43]: Entity that we got managing our amphitheater. [3:04:44, 3:04:48]: I just think that we have to be careful and cautious how we bring it forward. [3:04:48, 3:04:49]: That's all. [3:04:50, 3:04:50]: All right. [3:04:51, 3:04:51]: Good deal. [3:04:52, 3:04:53]: Go ahead, Miss Barber. [3:04:55, 3:04:56]: I want you all to understand. [3:04:57, 3:04:58]: My concerns [3:04:58, 3:05:00]: weren't just after we approved. [3:05:01, 3:05:02]: This contract. [3:05:03, 3:05:05]: My concerns were way before then. [3:05:05, 3:05:08]: since april of twenty twenty one [3:05:08, 3:05:10]: So when you hear me speaking passionately. [3:05:11, 3:05:13]: It is because of this very reason. [3:05:13, 3:05:15]: Or do you keep trying to silence me? [3:05:15, 3:05:19]: You keep trying to disregard the concerns that I'm raising here. [3:05:19, 3:05:26]: Yes, Mr. Bear did send an email with all the questions and concerns that I had to the council. [3:05:26, 3:05:27]: He asked you all. [3:05:28, 3:05:31]: If there was any other questions that he needed to include, [3:05:31, 3:05:32]: No one responded. [3:05:33, 3:05:35]: Just like you all didn't respond to my initial email. [3:05:36, 3:05:39]: Asking you all, what do you think of my concerns? [3:05:39, 3:05:40]: You said nothing. [3:05:40, 3:05:43]: So all I want is to make sure. [3:05:43, 3:05:45]: Because I can't do this alone. [3:05:45, 3:05:49]: I've been chasing this since April 2021. [3:05:49, 3:05:52]: What I've tried to do is rely on staff. [3:05:52, 3:05:55]: to um bring back to the council. [3:05:55, 3:06:01]: the information so that we can make a solid decision for our city. [3:06:02, 3:06:04]: I'd like to continue reading. [3:06:05, 3:06:06]: My points. [3:06:06, 3:06:08]: And they are specific. [3:06:08, 3:06:10]: На чакт. [3:06:11, 3:06:13]: But concerns regarding the management of it. [3:06:14, 3:06:17]: I want to also, as I did at the beginning. [3:06:17, 3:06:20]: Task staff with some clear directives. [3:06:20, 3:06:24]: Yes, Mr. Berry said that he was gonna send those concerns and questions. [3:06:25, 3:06:28]: He said he was gonna send them over and get them addressed. [3:06:29, 3:06:31]: We have not given him a deadline. [3:06:31, 3:06:37]: So I like council member I sent them last week and I forwarded that email to you. Please stop cutting me off. [3:06:38, 3:06:42]: Well I'm answering your question. I sent'em last week and forwarded you the email. [3:06:42, 3:06:45]: But my questions to the entire mayor and council. [3:06:45, 3:06:47]: happened two, three weeks ago. [3:06:47, 3:06:49]: You just sent it last week. [3:06:50, 3:06:54]: This is why I want to make sure all of this is on record. [3:06:54, 3:07:05]: My seventh point is janitorial services, security services, LMS services, parking attendees, concert hosts are not specifically spelled out in the contract. [3:07:06, 3:07:10]: nor does it indicate who will consume the cost or when or how these actions will take place. [3:07:10, 3:07:13]: We need those clearly defined. [3:07:13, 3:07:20]: We need to make sure that janitorial services be conducted within 24 to 48 hours after each concert. [3:07:21, 3:07:24]: This did not happen with the two shows in twenty twenty one. [3:07:24, 3:07:27]: I know it did not happen because I went there myself. [3:07:28, 3:07:38]: I had um I let me say that we're work we're working through the process to get it all straightened out. All the things we're talking about is we're working through that process. Let me finish reading through all of my points, if I may. [3:07:39, 3:07:43]: Well, let me ask the council. Does council want to hear the rest of this or not? Um [3:07:43, 3:07:50]: Well council approved this item to the agenda. It is so s it's interesting to me. [3:07:50, 3:07:58]: Because everyone's agenda. Well let's last the council. Let's just create a council. We went very long. [3:07:58, 3:08:00]: Mr. Mr. Tom, Tom. [3:08:01, 3:08:05]: Talking about car fight by there was no outrage with that. [3:08:05, 3:08:13]: Mayor Thomas, Mayor Pro Ten Thomas, go ahead, please. Uh councilwoman Bob, if you make a motion, if you make a motion. [3:08:13, 3:08:15]: Mayor Pro Tem Thomas, please. [3:08:15, 3:08:23]: No, Bob, if you make a motion, if you make a motion to bring those forward, I'll hear from me. I'll take it to the [3:08:25, 3:08:27]: I have no problem with taking it to the media because [3:08:28, 3:08:39]: Mayor Pro Tem Thomas Goy, please. Very much aware of something if you bring that if Miss Barber, if you bring that to if you make a motion to include all of that. [3:08:40, 3:08:43]: I was second that motion and that's the way it goes forward. [3:08:44, 3:08:54]: My motion was clear. My motion was to add an item to discuss the management of the amphitheater. I'm talking about all all your points. I don't know how many points you have, but all your points. [3:08:55, 3:08:55]: Um [3:08:56, 3:08:59]: I don't need to make a motion for that because it all is included. [3:08:59, 3:09:02]: in the emotion that I already made. [3:09:02, 3:09:18]: Why do I need to do that? Why do you all keep changing the rules? Thomas, we already agreed. Mayor Prote, we already agreed to it. Well, but I'm I'm trying to why do you all keep changing rules? I'm just trying to get an understanding. What what is the desire here tonight? That's that's all I'm trying to do. What is the desire? [3:09:18, 3:09:33]: My desire is to have a discussion regarding the amphitheater. Are you okay with the way it's being ran? I'd like to finish reading through all of my concerns. Then you can bring you can um state your concerns. But I want to address my well I I'm just [3:09:33, 3:09:38]: finish addressing my concerns and then you address yours so you all can stop cutting me off. [3:09:39, 3:09:44]: Because I'm going to be heard one way or other. All right. All right. [3:09:44, 3:09:45]: Um uh [3:09:45, 3:09:50]: My ninth point in reviewing the financial statements, they are very high level. [3:09:50, 3:09:52]: financial statements that was sent. [3:09:53, 3:09:54]: Um [3:09:54, 3:09:58]: It is clear that the revenue splits are not there. [3:09:58, 3:10:04]: It is clear that staff did not negotiate anything. They just brought it to the council. [3:10:04, 3:10:12]: Um, we need to make sure that we're negotiating. In fact, I asked Mr. Knighton the day after we approved the contract. [3:10:12, 3:10:13]: Please. [3:10:14, 3:10:20]: Send me the contract. You had already signed it, Mayor. That was not the contract that was presented to this council when we [3:10:21, 3:10:24]: were tasked to review it when it was presented to us in August. [3:10:25, 3:10:28]: What was before us was not what you signed. [3:10:29, 3:10:32]: I know that there were conditions that were added during our meeting. [3:10:33, 3:10:33]: But [3:10:33, 3:10:35]: It was stated during that meeting. [3:10:36, 3:10:39]: They had already sent a revised contract. [3:10:39, 3:10:42]: To the city. I signed a revised contract. [3:10:42, 3:10:45]: But the it was council. [3:10:45, 3:10:49]: It wasn't presented to us. We don't know what changed, what didn't change. [3:10:50, 3:10:50]: So no. [3:10:51, 3:10:55]: I I sent an email on that detailing all the changes in the history. [3:10:55, 3:11:14]: Let me finish, please. He's absolutely right. You did exactly that, but go ahead and finish your comment so we can move on. What I asked during that meeting was that we add an employment link to the Stockbridge Amphitheater website. That did not happen. There are no ability for community members to apply for paid positions, nor to volunteer. [3:11:14, 3:11:18]: As of today, there is still no link for employment or volunteer opportunity. [3:11:18, 3:11:26]: We want to allow community members the opportunity to enjoy and participate in the venue that their taxpayer dollars paid for. [3:11:26, 3:11:35]: Some community members are willing to volunteer their time, talents, and efforts in exchange for an opportunity to witness some parts of the concert for free. [3:11:36, 3:11:40]: They agreed to provide actual documentation obtained from the [3:11:40, 3:11:48]: They agreed to provide us with all the feedback and comments that are given on the Stockbridge AMP website. [3:11:48, 3:11:51]: That feedback still has not been given to us. [3:11:53, 3:11:59]: The city's event staff should be attempting to attract and book shows for 2023 and beyond right now. [3:12:01, 3:12:07]: I support um tasking staff to begin the process of preparing a select solicitation. [3:12:07, 3:12:09]: For venue management services. [3:12:09, 3:12:11]: There's no reason to delay this action. [3:12:12, 3:12:17]: Proper notice from the council allows staff adequate time for research. [3:12:17, 3:12:23]: advertising, proposal evaluations, and ultimately a decision to award a new contract. [3:12:24, 3:12:26]: Um and I suggest that we [3:12:26, 3:12:29]: Post that solicitation as soon as possible. [3:12:29, 3:12:36]: even if we use whoever we're awarded to for our 2023 concert series. [3:12:37, 3:12:44]: The new proposed seating chart that the mayor sent to us, it depicts 11 tables in the pit area. [3:12:44, 3:12:51]: I asked how does this new proposed seating arrangement address the concerns that were raised? [3:12:51, 3:12:53]: With regards to the obstruction of view [3:12:53, 3:12:55]: Of the two tables that are positioned [3:12:55, 3:12:58]: at the farthest ends of both sides of the stage. [3:12:58, 3:13:02]: The speakers and equipment that were positioned at both ends of the stage [3:13:02, 3:13:08]: blocked the view of the performances from ticket holders who bought seats at those specific tables. [3:13:09, 3:13:10]: And I attached [3:13:11, 3:13:11]: Just a [3:13:12, 3:13:13]: Illustration. [3:13:13, 3:13:14]: of those tables. [3:13:15, 3:13:18]: So all these questions that I sent [3:13:18, 3:13:19]: To the mayor. [3:13:20, 3:13:21]: My councilmates. [3:13:22, 3:13:23]: The city attorneys. [3:13:23, 3:13:24]: And [3:13:24, 3:13:25]: Mr. Gardner is [3:13:25, 3:13:27]: relatively new. [3:13:28, 3:13:30]: I still haven't gotten questions. Um [3:13:31, 3:13:40]: answers to my questions. I've been asking questions since last year. So yes, what you're getting from me is a bit of frustration because you all keep brushing me off. [3:13:41, 3:13:46]: Don't come here in public and say you're concerned about it, but yet you're not willing to discuss it. [3:13:47, 3:13:51]: You're not willing to discuss it at all. In fact, you're trying to stop me from discussing it. [3:13:52, 3:13:53]: That's all. [3:13:54, 3:13:58]: It's enough at this point. Miss uh Ms. Gantt, go ahead, please. [3:13:58, 3:14:05]: No, I just I'm I'm fine. I'm the one who brought up the toast thing and wanting to know what the revenues were from the [3:14:05, 3:14:08]: From the concessions in different places. [3:14:08, 3:14:11]: But I I hope that we will get some type of resolution soon and [3:14:12, 3:14:14]: Um, you know, again, we're not a [3:14:14, 3:14:16]: Not that we're not interested. [3:14:16, 3:14:21]: But all the questions, I believe we all have some of the same and similar questions that we signed off on that. [3:14:22, 3:14:25]: And then when we get those answers, it would be greatly appreciated. [3:14:26, 3:14:27]: Mr. Blountway, please. [3:14:29, 3:14:47]: Mayor, I concur. Um, I I think that any council memories here has valid concerns and they have their right to speak those valid concerns as long as we don't waver and venture off into other areas. Um one of my concerns uh about the managing of it, uh the amphitheater. [3:14:48, 3:14:50]: Is that when this council when we voted to [3:14:51, 3:14:57]: To have this amphitheater. We saw the vision of the amphitheater. We saw the seating of the amphitheater. [3:14:58, 3:15:04]: We saw one of the things that was really that people really raved about when I showed them pictures. [3:15:04, 3:15:06]: Was the grassy areas. [3:15:07, 3:15:11]: But we got a management company that has come in and taken the grassy area and said we're gonna [3:15:11, 3:15:13]: And fluxing with chairs. [3:15:14, 3:15:16]: These grassy areas what [3:15:16, 3:15:20]: I mean that that to me that was a great identity to our ampathy. [3:15:22, 3:15:24]: And for those things to happen. [3:15:24, 3:15:25]: For so much. [3:15:26, 3:15:35]: If you will, evolution of things that happen way outside of what we envisioned when we first saw this amphitheater, saw the plans for the amphitheater, saw all this stuff going. [3:15:35, 3:15:37]: That to have a management company come in to make [3:15:38, 3:15:39]: Ласт міні десиз. [3:15:40, 3:15:41]: Абати землетера. [3:15:42, 3:15:47]: that was in my opinion outside the boundaries on what this council had voted for for the empathy. [3:15:49, 3:15:56]: Uh, and that was one of the biggest complaints that I heard about the amphitheater. Everything was so tight. When you take those grassy areas. [3:15:57, 3:16:02]: If we was gonna if we wasn't gonna utilize the grassy areas then everything should have been concrete. [3:16:03, 3:16:05]: But if we got grassy areas. [3:16:05, 3:16:07]: for an amphitheater, let's utilize them. [3:16:07, 3:16:08]: Because [3:16:10, 3:16:15]: The thing about it is, is that if you put in more chairs, you make more money. I agree with that. [3:16:16, 3:16:24]: But that wasn't the vision of this council when we had those grassy areas put in. We were told that each section were gonna be was gonna be marked off. [3:16:25, 3:16:27]: And that when you bought a seat. [3:16:27, 3:16:29]: That section was your section. [3:16:30, 3:16:34]: Not that everybody will have all these chairs banged up together. [3:16:34, 3:16:40]: And not come to the uniqueness that this council had envisioned and had built over there at this amphitheater. [3:16:40, 3:16:44]: That's a concern of mine and the operation. Miss Barber's concerns. [3:16:45, 3:16:46]: I do have concerns about that. [3:16:47, 3:16:49]: But I have to always remember [3:16:50, 3:16:54]: In any decision being made, I have to respect my council members that I'm only one vote. [3:16:54, 3:16:58]: And if this is not the direction that that one vote is going to make any sense. [3:16:58, 3:17:02]: I'm not gonna start barking up a tree and the cat won't come down. [3:17:03, 3:17:12]: So I'm just gonna sit here and say whatever this council wants to do as a whole, I think that's where we should go. But I think that we should get back in line to what's [3:17:13, 3:17:17]: The vision is amphitheater, what we saw built and what we went out there and experienced. [3:17:18, 3:17:22]: When nothing was there, when we saw the grassy areas, hey, let's keep the grass up, let's do it. [3:17:22, 3:17:24]: I think that we need to get back to that. [3:17:24, 3:17:29]: to the identity of the amphitheater and don't let anybody dictate that identity. [3:17:30, 3:17:35]: whether it's a management company, anybody else, that we need to get back to the amphitheater that we all envisioned. [3:17:36, 3:17:39]: And that's what grassy areas are not chairs scattered everywhere. [3:17:40, 3:17:40]: Right. [3:17:41, 3:17:42]: Councilman Alexander Guay, please. [3:17:43, 3:17:48]: Yeah, we've been talking a long time about the what's going on here in in [3:17:49, 3:18:09]: This has just been a mess. But in the end, what really gone down to me is this, okay? Is that we hired an entity or whoever it is to manage it. But we got a lot of experts on this council who want to micromanage it. That's not our job. Our job is to allow them. Why are the count why [3:18:09, 3:18:17]: Why are we talking about what seeks what the seats look like? None of us know how to manage a facility and know where a seat is supposed to be located at. [3:18:18, 3:18:36]: We hired them to manage the facility so that they could make it profitable. Okay. That's the bottom line of what we should be worried about. When I talk about the amphitheater, I do a lot of marketing. So don't get confused with what you see me do on social media. That's marketing. [3:18:36, 3:18:43]: That's to get people in here. That's to draw a restaurant down here or any type of economic development. [3:18:43, 3:18:44]: But in the end [3:18:44, 3:18:50]: This amphitheater is about making money. The amphitheater is about economic development. [3:18:50, 3:18:55]: Drawing restaurant, drawing shops. It's not about who's sitting where. I don't I'm not [3:18:56, 3:19:01]: caring about. And then, you know, we get involved with who the acts are supposed to be. [3:19:02, 3:19:10]: I I'm looking at who it is that's managing the event and I expect behind in those seats. [3:19:11, 3:19:15]: And at the end of the day, to square up with how much money we're making. [3:19:15, 3:19:18]: I was a little confused. Mr. Wiggins, are you there? [3:19:19, 3:19:20]: You still online? [3:19:21, 3:19:23]: I don't see him. Yeah, he's he's online. [3:19:24, 3:19:24]: Yes, I'm here. [3:19:25, 3:19:27]: Okay. I understand I you [3:19:28, 3:19:39]: We sing did what you talk what about this payment that we received from Georgia Radio Line? Did we receive a significant payment from them? If we lost all of this money, how did we get the payment? [3:19:41, 3:19:45]: Yeah, we did receive the payment, but we turned around [3:19:45, 3:19:47]: And use the payment for um [3:19:48, 3:19:49]: Deposits on X. [3:19:50, 3:20:02]: Right, right. And that's always gonna be a running total where we have to pay for the acts ahead of time. But offer the first two concerts, excluding paying the money for additional acts. [3:20:02, 3:20:08]: Did we lose money off the first concert or did we take that money and buy the next concert? [3:20:10, 3:20:13]: We lost about six thousand on that. If you just look at [3:20:13, 3:20:22]: The PL and look at what far is coming from the revenue of the tickets and then going through the progression of the percentages of. [3:20:23, 3:20:26]: of uh I'll take and the management company tape. [3:20:27, 3:20:30]: It the the the first first uh was about six thousand. [3:20:31, 3:20:44]: Right. And in addition to that that includes all of the money that was spent to buy all of the equipment, right? The chairs and all of the above, right? That we what that we did not have or that we did not own. Is that correct? [3:20:44, 3:20:56]: Those are the things that we're supposed to be moving forward with, taking to uh purchase those items so this year we don't have to go back and spend the same money. Is that correct? [3:20:56, 3:21:13]: Right. That's what we that's what we're in the midst of trying to do now. And going to the case. Proposal. Right. So we don't do that. Obviously to me, those numbers should have actually been included in the cost of the amphitheater, because you can't have a concert without chairs, without all of those other things. [3:21:13, 3:21:14]: So very inclusive. [3:21:15, 3:21:17]: Right. Well well. [3:21:18, 3:21:24]: Say again. What's about 70,000 of expenses that was included in that uh P and L. [3:21:25, 3:21:25]: Mm. [3:21:25, 3:21:30]: Right, that's what I'm saying. But in terms of the overall for the first additional [3:21:30, 3:21:49]: outlay of what the amphitheater should have been. It should have came with chairs. You should all of those items should have came. You can't have a concert without chairs anyway. So it should have all of those accessory items that were added onto that first concert. But what I'm saying to everybody here is there's a way to do what we're doing. [3:21:49, 3:21:51]: Okay, there's a way to do what we're doing. [3:21:52, 3:21:56]: And in the end, we all know that it takes three votes. [3:21:56, 3:22:07]: I can have the greatest ideas and Councilwoman Barber, you can have the greatest ideas, but it takes three votes in order to get order to move the city manager in this direction. [3:22:07, 3:22:15]: You're frustrated because you're beating your head against the wall, but you're not seeking the three votes to get you where you want to go. [3:22:15, 3:22:26]: If you had the three votes, you wouldn't have to tell Mr. Gardner to do these things or Mr. Berry to do it. They would just happen because the three votes is how things work here in Stockbridge. [3:22:26, 3:22:38]: I agreed with all of the items you said. I didn't need to put any more forward. I agreed with him. I said we agreed with him and we agreed with him a long time ago. But you never asked for the vote. [3:22:38, 3:22:54]: You it that councilman Thomas offered you an opportunity to ask for the vote again tonight. He was gonna second it. So we don't have to keep going around and around. We could ask the is that what you need to move forward, Mr. Gardner? You need the vote, right? [3:22:57, 3:22:59]: Council council member, I I think [3:23:00, 3:23:08]: Where the areas are specific to the operations, yes. But I I also realize that some of this is obviously information she was seeking from council. [3:23:08, 3:23:12]: Not just issues ri regarding to the staff and the operations thereof. [3:23:12, 3:23:22]: Um and obviously the city the attorney has already started working on I guess some of that to address those questions. Um we've actually [3:23:23, 3:23:25]: If you guys remember, I think I sent an email to you guys. [3:23:26, 3:23:29]: Y'all gave me some directions a little bit and we're we're actually moving. [3:23:29, 3:23:34]: with developing a new RFP system for this um for the venue. [3:23:34, 3:23:45]: Um so that's happening in earnest. Um that's something that was on um uh council member got barber's listed. We're already in the process of trying to address. So some of the stuff is already moving forward. [3:23:45, 3:23:55]: Yeah, and I certainly understand that. But again, those items can't move forward until you have three the support of three council members. That's just it. [3:23:55, 3:24:03]: That and that's that's that's the execution part that's missing from where you're trying to go is getting the three votes. I'm done. [3:24:04, 3:24:06]: Mr. Premier Maripotent Thomas, go ahead, please. [3:24:06, 3:24:09]: Okay. Uh Mayor Ford it it is getting late, but [3:24:10, 3:24:10]: The [3:24:11, 3:24:11]: I think [3:24:11, 3:24:19]: What I'm attempting to do tonight is just get down to the point. See, I I think what I'm hearing from the list. [3:24:20, 3:24:23]: These are what I call not micromanaging. [3:24:23, 3:24:25]: These are oversights. [3:24:26, 3:24:36]: uh things that we need to these are detailed things that we need to uh be able to look at because what I'm hearing for for an example. [3:24:37, 3:24:38]: Um [3:24:39, 3:24:42]: If we're talking about concessions. [3:24:43, 3:24:46]: And what I'm hearing from uh Councilwoman Barb is that [3:24:47, 3:24:51]: We do not know the results of. [3:24:51, 3:24:54]: What happened at the concession? [3:24:54, 3:24:55]: Fellows from me. [3:24:55, 3:24:57]: Okay, but I'm just saying as an example. [3:24:58, 3:25:04]: So if if that's an issue, then we have to be able to address that. [3:25:04, 3:25:10]: in our uh means of oversight. It's not that we're managing [3:25:10, 3:25:22]: But but if we say that we don't know, for an example, if we say that we're taking someone else's word that this is the breakdown of [3:25:22, 3:25:31]: The ticket sales. If this is the breakdown of how many uh hamburgers was sold, if this was a valid concern, valid. [3:25:32, 3:25:40]: Oh, but oh I'm I'm trying to get to a point, and I think this is uh I'm I'm I I can't speak for Councilwoman Barber, but I think what she's saying is that. [3:25:41, 3:25:46]: These are concerns and issues and oversight issues. [3:25:46, 3:25:59]: that has been raised, but they have not been addressed from a managerial or from an oversight standpoint. So I agree with that. So what I was trying to do earlier was [3:26:00, 3:26:01]: If you look at [3:26:01, 3:26:05]: Every item that she is mentioning in her list. [3:26:06, 3:26:26]: How do you address that? And I think uh Mr. Gardner, I think you sort of alluded to the fact that that you are addressing some of those items, if I'm if I heard you correct. And I think that's really just getting down to the nitty-gritty. So I don't know, just say number five on that list. And I don't even know what number five is, but [3:26:26, 3:26:32]: Number five. So how do you address number five that was on that list? [3:26:32, 3:26:33]: See, it's not about [3:26:34, 3:26:41]: chairs uh in the grassy area, even though we knew we we knew that we needed to own [3:26:41, 3:26:49]: chairs and table. But I think uh councilwoman barber is getting a little bit uh more uh um [3:26:50, 3:26:55]: more to the point than just that. And and I think those are just valid because [3:26:55, 3:26:57]: If if you asked [3:26:57, 3:26:59]: What was the breakdown? [3:27:00, 3:27:06]: I don't think anyone could even answer that question. And I think this is what you're saying that we don't know. [3:27:07, 3:27:09]: But we should know. [3:27:11, 3:27:24]: You see what I'm saying? We don't know, but we should know. And I think what she is saying is that we need to be able to address all of those things from a managerial standpoint. [3:27:24, 3:27:28]: Um the city of Stockbridge do not know. [3:27:29, 3:27:30]: The breakdown. [3:27:31, 3:27:32]: Um every [3:27:32, 3:27:35]: item of everything that happened. [3:27:35, 3:27:54]: We are relying on someone else to tell us. I don't think that's good management. I don't think that's good business. Now, if I hear what uh councilwoman barber said, that is not good management. Well, we are relying on someone, it's just like if if I own if I own uh a sandwich shop. [3:27:54, 3:27:57]: Put it in a motion and make it happen. [3:27:57, 3:28:16]: Well that that's what I want to do, but I'm just trying to get just just get down to the point. And I think uh Mr. Gardner sort of said, I think Mr. Gardner has heard the list, has taken the list, and I think um the Mr. Gardner is trying to address each one of those items. Am I correct, correct, Mr. Gardner? [3:28:18, 3:28:21]: We're we're addressing the items where we can, yes. [3:28:21, 3:28:24]: Um and I know the attorney [3:28:24, 3:28:29]: Is looking to get answers obviously that we don't have access to but require the [3:28:30, 3:28:34]: management company to provide to us that I think and [3:28:34, 3:28:46]: Mr. Jeremy could allude to that, that we've he sent that list off to get those specific answers. And and where they failed to answer those questions, obviously there are different routes we'd had to take from there through. [3:28:46, 3:28:49]: inquire upon getting the the answers that we need. [3:28:49, 3:29:09]: Um, I know that they are during the work that and on it in earnest as well. So you know, where we we're obviously from from an operational management standpoint, from my team side of the house, we're we're looking at you know what what information we have. I think John provided a breakdown um right after I got here. Um [3:29:10, 3:29:20]: Uh Mr. Wiggins, you know, kind of laid out exactly, you know, what we receive, where we receive it from, what that difference was, what the outcome was in terms of net revenue to profit. [3:29:21, 3:29:23]: Um either would be negative or positive. [3:29:23, 3:29:24]: Um [3:29:25, 3:29:25]: You know. [3:29:26, 3:29:28]: Can we shake out that information more? [3:29:29, 3:29:42]: to get more in-depth specifics. Yes. And I think what he was saying was that requires additional information provided to us from the management company so that then we could go forward and see even a more detailed breakdown. [3:29:42, 3:29:47]: But you know, as as I stated to some of you guys before, um [3:29:48, 3:29:51]: The number one way out of this is obviously [3:29:51, 3:29:58]: to to go for new service. I mean no one uh m my last point that's what we're doing. [3:29:58, 3:30:02]: Right. Mm my la my this is my last point. I think one of the issues was [3:30:02, 3:30:04]: After each concert [3:30:05, 3:30:06]: The actual cleanup. [3:30:07, 3:30:10]: Of of the amphitheater. So I I so [3:30:10, 3:30:27]: If no one can answer that, and I think this is what Councilwoman Barber's saying is that um no one could even answer that. So whose responsibility is it to actually to actually do that? And I think she is saying that should be in place, it should be known. [3:30:27, 3:30:40]: Who's gonna actually clean the facility up after every concert? Now I'm I'm just sort of just trying to remember some things she just mentioned and I'll listen to this end. But my my attempt tonight was to how do we [3:30:40, 3:30:42]: Різов [3:30:42, 3:30:53]: The concerns. How do we answer those issues so we don't continue as Councilwoman Barb said, we keep continuing to put it off, put it off, put it off, put it off. Yes, yes. [3:30:54, 3:31:06]: Just go ahead and say those lists, please have staff reply back with information regarding the list that she put forward, whether that staff be the city attorney or or ourselves. Um, like I said, we're working on some of it already, but [3:31:06, 3:31:10]: That's the vote and that will be as you said earlier in this meeting. [3:31:10, 3:31:13]: That's my directive. That's my direction to go in. [3:31:13, 3:31:21]: Yeah, yeah. And so um I I didn't have anything to add to the list as well because I thought that was uh it was a good list. [3:31:21, 3:31:41]: So uh and I think sometimes we have to understand. So if don't nobody respond, then I guess everybody is and I guess all of us could have said, I agree with the list, and I guess that's what we didn't do. And I guess then I think we would I think you know the train would have just moved if it wouldn't just said, I'm in agreement with the list, and I don't think [3:31:41, 3:31:55]: think we would have would have been at this point tonight. So I'm just saying now I agree with the list. So uh Mr. Gardner, you've already answered it. So you're working on the list, you're trying to get the answers and you're trying to put these [3:31:55, 3:31:59]: Um the oversights in place. Now we we are [3:31:59, 3:32:01]: In a contract for twenty twenty two. [3:32:02, 3:32:04]: And so we just have to make sure that [3:32:04, 3:32:06]: All of those things. [3:32:06, 3:32:10]: That has been raised from Councilwoman Barber. [3:32:10, 3:32:10]: That [3:32:11, 3:32:15]: You know, we will have to meet though. I know the first concert is April the first. [3:32:15, 3:32:18]: So everything on that list then [3:32:18, 3:32:20]: should have an answer to it. [3:32:21, 3:32:22]: Right. [3:32:22, 3:32:27]: And then that way we are more in in the oversight position. [3:32:27, 3:32:33]: to make sure that all of those things are just being taken care of. And so hopefully, um [3:32:33, 3:32:40]: You know, those things will be in place. We will have someone from [3:32:40, 3:32:47]: The city side making sure that whatever the ticket sales are, whatever the concession sales are. [3:32:47, 3:32:53]: who's cleaning up, what's this cost? So and and I just and I guess we um [3:32:55, 3:32:58]: We just got started the you know the wrong way, but I'll just say this in closing. [3:32:59, 3:33:01]: I think it's our fault. [3:33:02, 3:33:07]: I think it's the city of Stockbridge's fault that we did not put those things in place. [3:33:07, 3:33:13]: Um, because one thing I've learned from the auditors, and this goes back to a few administrations ago. [3:33:14, 3:33:17]: And they said when you have chaos. [3:33:17, 3:33:22]: When you have chaos like that, then you are opening up [3:33:22, 3:33:24]: Room for [3:33:25, 3:33:27]: Anything that could happen. [3:33:27, 3:33:36]: And so I think we just have to just tighten it up and make sure that um we don't have chaos and confusion. And then it does not lend itself to [3:33:37, 3:33:38]: The T word. [3:33:40, 3:33:42]: And I won't say what that T stand for. [3:33:43, 3:33:43]: All right. [3:33:44, 3:33:45]: Ms. Gantt, go ahead, please. [3:33:47, 3:33:48]: Um [3:33:48, 3:33:49]: Um [3:33:49, 3:33:52]: Sharing the same concerns as everyone else again. [3:33:52, 3:33:58]: Our attorneys, if you look at the emails, Mayor and Council, um, your confidential emails. [3:33:59, 3:34:06]: Between attorney to attorney, they've already started addressing this on both sides. They actually have the list one through nine. [3:34:07, 3:34:14]: um of items and it's listed out. They started February 2nd or 3rd. They sent another email on the fourth. [3:34:14, 3:34:15]: The tenth. [3:34:16, 3:34:21]: And then we just got a forward tonight again. The list has been addressed. [3:34:21, 3:34:33]: We're waiting on the other side and we also received a response in regards to that. So we need to, you know, just look at our emails and know that it is being addressed. And so [3:34:34, 3:34:41]: I'm with you. I'm with the concerns of Councilman Barber. I stated that when we met with them with Georgia Radio Alliance, her and her and myself. [3:34:42, 3:34:43]: Um and the mayor. [3:34:43, 3:34:45]: But um I'm [3:34:46, 3:34:53]: I'm saying that we can go on and on and on about these issues tonight. We have a retreat coming up. I think that would be more appropriate. [3:34:53, 3:34:58]: I'm not overlooking anybody's um concerns. [3:34:58, 3:35:08]: but they have already been addressed. They're being addressed right now. We're waiting on an answer. And if we don't get an answer for them, then we know it's time to we know what to do. [3:35:09, 3:35:10]: That's all. [3:35:11, 3:35:12]: It's a blank. Go ahead, please. [3:35:13, 3:35:22]: Mayor, I've said for months, even prior to our concert, when this council voted to bring in Kekin Wood for its purpose of oversight. [3:35:23, 3:35:32]: I've asked this council on more than one occasion. We never ran an amphitheater, and everybody on here keeps saying, we don't know, we don't know. I've asked this council before. [3:35:32, 3:35:37]: That we should have hired a consultant that's in place that has our best interests. [3:35:38, 3:35:44]: A consultant that knows about this part of what this amphitheater should and shouldn't be doing, concessions, all this stuff. [3:35:44, 3:35:48]: They report to the city manager, rem city manager reports to us. [3:35:49, 3:35:52]: We should have hired a consultant to oversee this amphitheater. [3:35:52, 3:35:56]: Because when you hire an entity that we all have issues with. [3:35:57, 3:36:05]: That's the only entity of knowledge and that's just the way it is. But if we had a consultant in place for us, the city. [3:36:05, 3:36:16]: with our best interests, maybe some of these things may or not have may or not have gone through the crack like that because somebody's in there with our best interests. And when you're taking money [3:36:16, 3:36:19]: From one concert to do another concert, that's not making money. [3:36:20, 3:36:32]: That's just that because Mr. Uh Gardner, when I finish, if you don't mind, because I've been told by several places with amphitheaters, amphitheaters are not the big moneymaker for any cities. [3:36:33, 3:36:44]: The entity to bring in businesses and all these things and bring help help to bring people in our downtown, all of that is not to make money. But the operational part, which I agree with Councilwoman Barber. [3:36:45, 3:36:52]: It has been abysmal in my opinion as well. Her list, I I agree with her list. I really do. [3:36:53, 3:36:56]: And I and I thank the city attorneys on what they're doing. And I [3:36:56, 3:37:00]: Councilwoman Barber, I love your passion for what you believe in. [3:37:00, 3:37:14]: But I'm trying to say this city, when we're in any areas, just like we did with Kekka Wood, with the operations amphitheater, why don't we hire a consultant that deals directly with our city manager that knows the business? [3:37:15, 3:37:17]: We don't know the business. [3:37:17, 3:37:20]: But a consultant to the city would. [3:37:20, 3:37:25]: They know what we should be getting for concessions. They know how if something's out of order. [3:37:25, 3:37:45]: That's what we need in the city. Or you're going to have six people, six elected bodies still questioning what's going on because we don't know what's right or wrong. And if we're getting had, but a consultant would have access to all of that. Thank Mr. Wiggins, but he's not a consultant. He doesn't know anything about all operations of an amphitheater. [3:37:45, 3:37:46]: Yeah. [3:37:46, 3:37:51]: But if we hire a consultant, which I've been saying that, it would cut all of this out. [3:37:51, 3:37:58]: Because it will make it clear to us the do's and don'ts and what's not happening in the best interest of the city. [3:37:58, 3:38:04]: Mr. Blount, make a motion. I second it to for us to hire I make a motion for the city of Stockbridge to hire a consultant. [3:38:05, 3:38:08]: to oversee all operations of the amphitheater. [3:38:08, 3:38:09]: I second the motion. [3:38:10, 3:38:13]: All right, motion's been made in a second. Any further discussion? [3:38:13, 3:38:18]: for for the for the twenty looks for the twenty second i have a second [3:38:18, 3:38:22]: For the twenty two session. For the twenty twenty two season. [3:38:23, 3:38:30]: I don't know what it's gonna cause, but I mean I I I put it this way. Let me let me let me read let me say this. Okay. [3:38:30, 3:38:41]: With getting with our city manager on how we need to do it, I don't want to go step my boundaries of the city manager. I talked to him about this. I withdraw my second. I talked to him about [3:38:42, 3:38:42]: Uh [3:38:43, 3:38:50]: That issue, Mr. Garner, you remember I said something to you about we need someone in place to have the city of Stockbridge best interest in place. [3:38:50, 3:38:55]: So I would say I uh I would withdraw that motion and ask Mr. Gardner. [3:38:55, 3:39:03]: How do we go about doing that and allow the city manager to make that decision on what he needs to do to put in place for the fun operations of the city? Let me do it that way. [3:39:03, 3:39:05]: For the twenty twenty two season. [3:39:05, 3:39:15]: However he see it fit, and we need to if we need it now or however he think we need it, however we you know, I'm gonna trust you, Mr. Gardener, that you're gonna put somebody in place. [3:39:15, 3:39:17]: To fulfill all these [3:39:19, 3:39:20]: Exactly. Um [3:39:21, 3:39:30]: No, it's not a mo I don't think is it a motion? That's no motion on the floor. No motion on the floor. I'd like to make a motion to do exactly what Councilman Blount just said. [3:39:30, 3:39:31]: Assessment. [3:39:33, 3:39:34]: Most can just go ahead and do it. [3:39:35, 3:39:35]: Yes. [3:39:36, 3:39:37]: Yeah, okay. [3:39:37, 3:39:48]: That's to put whoever whatever he feels he needs to put in place. Right. Whoever the city manager feels needs to be done, the will move forward. So we can get through with this. Okay, you got a first, second. [3:39:49, 3:39:50]: All right. All right. [3:39:50, 3:39:57]: No, I I'd like to make some comments. You all have spoken. I'd like to be recognized to make some comments. [3:39:58, 3:39:59]: Go ahead. [3:40:01, 3:40:02]: As I say. [3:40:02, 3:40:06]: I have been addressing concerns regarding the amphitheater. [3:40:06, 3:40:08]: Prior to approving. [3:40:08, 3:40:09]: The contract. [3:40:10, 3:40:12]: I know nothing about venue management. [3:40:12, 3:40:14]: I know business. [3:40:15, 3:40:16]: I know when [3:40:16, 3:40:19]: preparing the standard language of the contract. [3:40:20, 3:40:24]: and ha having all of the specifics outlined in the contract. [3:40:25, 3:40:26]: How important that is. [3:40:27, 3:40:30]: That was addressed with the um city attorneys. [3:40:31, 3:40:33]: What was also addressed with Mr. Knighton? [3:40:33, 3:40:34]: was about. [3:40:34, 3:40:36]: a sponsorship deal. [3:40:36, 3:40:38]: That was already at the table. [3:40:41, 3:40:41]: Miss Uniton. [3:40:42, 3:40:43]: The city attorneys. [3:40:44, 3:40:45]: Our wherebed. [3:40:46, 3:40:49]: They were aware of it because they carved out a date. [3:40:49, 3:40:51]: for a concert series last year. [3:40:52, 3:40:54]: with them carving out that date. [3:40:54, 3:40:55]: They knew. [3:40:55, 3:40:57]: what the intentions was. [3:40:57, 3:40:59]: That's why they carved out the time. [3:41:00, 3:41:01]: They knew [3:41:02, 3:41:04]: That was only supposed to be [3:41:04, 3:41:06]: Between the sponsor [3:41:07, 3:41:08]: And directly with the city. [3:41:09, 3:41:14]: There was never supposed to be a middleman or a third person or a management company. [3:41:16, 3:41:18]: That was clear last year. [3:41:19, 3:41:20]: In December [3:41:21, 3:41:23]: I sent several emails. [3:41:23, 3:41:24]: To you, Mayor. [3:41:24, 3:41:26]: as acting city manager. [3:41:27, 3:41:29]: You ignored or disregarded my emails. [3:41:30, 3:41:44]: Stand by. I stand by. I I I made executive decisions on what needed to be done at the time. And that would be to this point right now. I didn't cut you off when you were talking. Okay. Oh I'll respond. I'll respond to you in just a second, then when you're done. Perfectly fine. [3:41:45, 3:41:49]: When I am sending emails, I'm doing my best. [3:41:49, 3:41:50]: To communicate. [3:41:51, 3:41:52]: prior to our meetings. [3:41:53, 3:41:56]: The one thing that I've said since I joined this council. [3:41:57, 3:41:58]: I never want to shame myself. [3:41:59, 3:42:00]: My family. [3:42:00, 3:42:01]: Or this community. [3:42:02, 3:42:05]: But when you put my back against the wall. [3:42:05, 3:42:08]: And you make me have to address this stuff in public. [3:42:09, 3:42:12]: Don't sit and pretend as though, oh, now you agree with me. [3:42:13, 3:42:15]: when all of this could have been avoided. [3:42:15, 3:42:17]: Had you responded to my emails? [3:42:18, 3:42:19]: It's never been an issue. [3:42:20, 3:42:21]: Councilman Alexander. [3:42:21, 3:42:23]: When you send emails. [3:42:24, 3:42:25]: Wanting to get consensus. [3:42:26, 3:42:29]: You don't need to um wait or contact me. [3:42:29, 3:42:30]: If I agree with it. [3:42:31, 3:42:32]: I respond. [3:42:33, 3:42:33]: If I don't. [3:42:34, 3:42:35]: Then I don't respond. [3:42:35, 3:42:37]: I'm not here for politics. [3:42:37, 3:42:39]: So stop playing with me. [3:42:40, 3:42:42]: All I want is what is best for this city. [3:42:43, 3:42:46]: And if there are opportunities that are good for us. [3:42:46, 3:42:48]: I want us to make sure that we take [3:42:49, 3:42:50]: complete advantage of it. [3:42:52, 3:42:56]: At this point, what I was told even the day after the council approved. [3:42:57, 3:42:58]: The contract. [3:42:58, 3:42:59]: What I was told. [3:43:00, 3:43:01]: With that. [3:43:01, 3:43:02]: They were gonna go back. [3:43:03, 3:43:04]: and renegotiate. [3:43:05, 3:43:06]: with the management company. [3:43:07, 3:43:08]: Since then. [3:43:08, 3:43:09]: I've just been strong along. [3:43:10, 3:43:11]: Disregarded, dismissed. [3:43:13, 3:43:15]: What I want what I want to make sure happen. [3:43:15, 3:43:19]: Is all of those questions I want them to be addressed? [3:43:20, 3:43:21]: And [3:43:21, 3:43:22]: Brought back to this council. [3:43:23, 3:43:24]: Hand [3:43:25, 3:43:26]: Thomas of the essence. [3:43:26, 3:43:27]: We have a concert. [3:43:28, 3:43:29]: Up in April. [3:43:29, 3:43:31]: I just don't want responses coming to us. [3:43:32, 3:43:33]: March thirty first. [3:43:34, 3:43:35]: That's all. [3:43:35, 3:43:36]: Thank you. [3:43:36, 3:43:56]: In response to your comment, yes, you sent me information during the time that I was the acting city manager. Got it. Had a lot of different uh conversations or emails on a lot of different things. So I made some decisions at that time on what to do and what was a priority to try to get set. And working not only with the management company, but also working with and having conversations with our our trade. [3:43:56, 3:44:00]: Treasurer as well as our attorneys on some of those items, period. [3:44:00, 3:44:15]: So in this aspect, but now we're here, we we are at a location now we need to make some other decisions. Now we have a city manager and and on site as well educated in how to manage a a staff of the city itself versus me in this aspect, which is a good decision. [3:44:15, 3:44:25]: And we're gonna move forward on this. So, you know, hey, we'll we're gonna be all right. We're gonna make it through. But uh I did what I needed to do at the time. Mr. Berry, you have your hand up. [3:44:27, 3:44:40]: Thank you, Mayor. I I'd just like to say two things so the record is clear. First, I sent an extensive email to all of council outlining the outlining the contract approval process, the motion that was made. [3:44:40, 3:44:48]: the conditions to the motion, the meeting minutes and everything else, and the contract amendments. I'm happy to recirculate that. [3:44:48, 3:44:50]: Second and more important [3:44:51, 3:44:56]: So the record is clear, I never once participated in a negotiation. [3:44:57, 3:45:03]: with the former city manager and any sponsor, period. Never once. [3:45:03, 3:45:17]: I was not a part of those discussions. And I would respectfully ask that that not ever be said again because I didn't participate in those. I was not aware of those discussions. I was aware there was discussion of an event. [3:45:17, 3:45:18]: And that is it. [3:45:19, 3:45:23]: I want the record to be clear of that and I request that it not be set again. Thank you. [3:45:25, 3:45:36]: Since Mr. Berry is speaking directly to me, I am speaking about what was told to me by the former city manager. But I told you multiple times that's not true. [3:45:36, 3:45:39]: Okay. I didn't tell I didn't say if it was true or not. [3:45:40, 3:45:42]: All I'm saying is what was told to me. [3:45:43, 3:45:46]: And that's exactly what has been happening here. [3:45:47, 3:45:50]: I've been strung along, deceived and lied. [3:45:51, 3:45:53]: Баголадстав мемберс. [3:45:54, 3:45:55]: What I was told was [3:45:56, 3:46:00]: Mr. Berry and Mr. Knighton was gonna be meeting. [3:46:00, 3:46:01]: With sponsors. [3:46:02, 3:46:09]: That was way before we approved the contract for a management company and even the day after. [3:46:10, 3:46:11]: We approve the contract. [3:46:12, 3:46:15]: When I met when I called and spoke with Mr. Knighton. [3:46:15, 3:46:17]: That's what he told me. [3:46:17, 3:46:20]: that they were going to be renegotiating. In fact. [3:46:20, 3:46:22]: We had another meeting. [3:46:22, 3:46:24]: We had a meeting. [3:46:24, 3:46:28]: When we interviewed the management companies, there were two of them. [3:46:29, 3:46:31]: that we did three on three meetings with. [3:46:33, 3:46:35]: Two of my councilmates was in the meeting with me. [3:46:36, 3:46:37]: In which I addressed [3:46:38, 3:46:40]: one of the potential sponsors. [3:46:42, 3:46:42]: So [3:46:43, 3:46:48]: They are very much aware of what was on the table or what could potentially [3:46:48, 3:46:49]: be on the table. [3:46:50, 3:46:51]: Even more so. [3:46:52, 3:46:56]: When I ask about the concert series. [3:46:56, 3:46:58]: That was scheduled for last year. [3:47:00, 3:47:01]: Those dates. [3:47:02, 3:47:03]: were carved out. [3:47:03, 3:47:05]: in the current contract. [3:47:05, 3:47:06]: To accommodate [3:47:07, 3:47:08]: those concert series. [3:47:09, 3:47:11]: So what I was told was [3:47:12, 3:47:13]: That the city attorneys [3:47:14, 3:47:15]: Mr. Berry. [3:47:15, 3:47:16]: And Mr. Knighton. [3:47:16, 3:47:18]: Yeah, one of water. [3:47:18, 3:47:32]: You have to respect our city attorney. Right. Oh no, I respect on several occasions. I respect you. Stop talking over me. I respect you. [3:47:33, 3:47:34]: Porn of water. Right. [3:47:35, 3:47:55]: I've I've got that you're right, Mr. Butler. No problem. We're gonna end this part of this conversation. We've gone way too long. We okay? We already got we got a directive here in reference to um uh the city manager is gonna uh identify someone to be that that liaison or that consultant for at least the rest of this particular um concert series year. [3:47:55, 3:48:11]: And and obviously the contract uh we are under now i extends until the end of the year. And uh we'll be with this GRA unless something some strange thing is uh happens to where's that we can no longer be in a contract but it we'll call for the vote. Okay. Call for the vote for what, sir? [3:48:11, 3:48:27]: We said it we had a first and a second. There was a question, right? Did we vote? Okay, no, we didn't vote in reference to giving Mr. Gardner the directive to uh to have a consultant. Is that correct? Is that the vote we're talking about? Or or what he sees best today. Okay. Already sees fit. All right. [3:48:28, 3:48:30]: All right. So all in favor of that motion, please indicate. [3:48:33, 3:48:38]: Okay. I got uh four. I see four five five. Okay, so five it is. Okay. We'll move on. [3:48:40, 3:48:40]: Where [3:48:40, 3:48:41]: Yes, sir. [3:48:42, 3:48:54]: No, no, I'm sorry. Go ahead. Okay. What I had next was the uh CID feasibility study. Um Mr. Peterson, uh you're still on, along with uh Nicole Hall from Nicole Works. Um [3:48:54, 3:48:57]: We still got this to deal with. Go ahead, please. [3:48:59, 3:49:00]: Mr. Peterson, go away, please. [3:49:00, 3:49:20]: Yes, sir. Thank you very much, Mayor. Good evening, Council and Citizens. As you all know, we've been in discussions to put together a CID on the 138 corridor. And joined on this call, we have consultant, Ms. Nicole Hall, who is the owner and CEO of. [3:49:20, 3:49:22]: Nickel works. [3:49:23, 3:49:35]: Is in in recent weeks it's been decided that we should do a joint CID with Henry County. And Henry County is going to vote to enter into a feasibility study uh tomorrow, and that's why we're here today. [3:49:35, 3:49:39]: We would like to move along at the same pace as Henry as Henry County. [3:49:40, 3:49:40]: If [3:49:41, 3:49:42]: If I could share my screen. [3:49:43, 3:49:45]: I can bring up that proposal. [3:49:49, 3:49:51]: Should be able to do it, no problem. All right. [3:50:08, 3:50:10]: Is that helpful? Let me see. [3:50:18, 3:50:19]: All right, I've got a nominator. [3:50:19, 3:50:21]: Got it now. Okay, go ahead then. [3:50:21, 3:50:22]: There you go. [3:50:22, 3:50:23]: All right, thank you. [3:50:24, 3:50:26]: Now everyone, this is the this is the map. [3:50:27, 3:50:28]: For the C I D. [3:50:29, 3:50:32]: I think you all should have you all should have received this. [3:50:32, 3:50:35]: As you can see, it's along that one thirty-eight corridor. [3:50:40, 3:50:40]: And [3:50:43, 3:50:46]: See, I'm going to bring up the proposal right now. [3:50:54, 3:50:57]: Okay, Mayor. Hold on a second. [3:50:58, 3:51:00]: You uh you should be able to do it, sir. [3:51:02, 3:51:02]: All right. [3:51:03, 3:51:04]: Trying to [3:51:05, 3:51:06]: All right, here we go. [3:51:06, 3:51:07]: Right. [3:51:08, 3:51:15]: All right, if you see that that task one, uh the strategic plan, that will include uh the staff. [3:51:15, 3:51:18]: Council as well, and we'll put together that project plan. [3:51:18, 3:51:21]: And that general messaging for that proposed CID. [3:51:23, 3:51:24]: Task two. [3:51:25, 3:51:28]: The property owner research, we're going to in the [3:51:29, 3:51:30]: We're going to work with um [3:51:30, 3:51:33]: Nicole Hall, I'm putting together a comprehensive list of properties. [3:51:34, 3:51:35]: Uh the property owners. [3:51:36, 3:51:45]: Now I will let you know that there are about 80 parcels in that CID, but in that CID area, but only about 70 are eligible. [3:51:46, 3:51:59]: If you go to task three, that marketing materials and GIS mapping, we'll put together those materials and that online interactive map that makes it a lot easier for the public and those uh proposed parcels. [3:52:00, 3:52:07]: To interact. Task four, the property owner research and stakeholder meetings. This is that public outreach session. [3:52:08, 3:52:11]: We also have those consent forms for those willing participants. [3:52:12, 3:52:17]: Finally, task five, that final feasibility report story study will be. [3:52:17, 3:52:21]: Prepared and ready. Now, if we start in March. [3:52:21, 3:52:27]: We should be finished by August 22nd. Henry County is on a similar [3:52:27, 3:52:47]: On a similar calendar. Clayton County has started before us, so they're going to finish a little bit ahead of us. Now, if we do start at the same time as Henry County, there is a possibility that we could have some public outreach meetings together, but that will not impact our cost. [3:52:47, 3:52:49]: And as far as the cost is concerned. [3:52:50, 3:53:07]: Our portion is$38,150. Now we do have that in the economic development budget already. Uh that was put in for this fiscal year. Now, this is just the cost for the feasibility study. Now the feasibility study will let us know if a CID [3:53:07, 3:53:08]: Is um [3:53:09, 3:53:17]: is feasible as the title states and we do not uh i do not have that in the budget as of right now i only have uh that 38 150 [3:53:21, 3:53:24]: And um Nicole Haw, did you have anything that you would like to add? [3:53:28, 3:53:29]: Nope, you covered it. [3:53:30, 3:53:30]: Our fine. [3:53:32, 3:53:37]: Councilmember Alexander, I I know you've participated in in the meetings. Is there anything that you would like to add? [3:53:38, 3:53:40]: Mayor. Yeah, go right here, sir, please. [3:53:41, 3:53:47]: Yeah, I just want to say this is the greatest opportunity that we've ever had to make an impact on Highway 138. [3:53:48, 3:53:52]: We got all three entities at the table. We got Clayton County at the table. [3:53:52, 3:53:54]: Henry County at the table. [3:53:54, 3:53:55]: And us. [3:53:55, 3:54:00]: So all of these entities have been working together. The mayor's been at the meetings, Mr. Peterson. [3:54:01, 3:54:04]: Miss Barber was at some of the meetings, Councilman Thomas. [3:54:04, 3:54:06]: Uh some of the staff members. [3:54:06, 3:54:11]: I've been there and we've all been talking about comprehensive plans for the entire corridor. [3:54:11, 3:54:13]: How we're gonna do it. [3:54:13, 3:54:15]: Uh, commissioner Damont Davis. [3:54:15, 3:54:19]: has been very aggressive and wanting to do ten foot walking pass. [3:54:20, 3:54:22]: Along the entire length of this uh [3:54:22, 3:54:23]: particular project. [3:54:24, 3:54:29]: All the way from North Henry Boulevard to Clayton International. So we have a seamed uniform. [3:54:30, 3:54:32]: type of appearance to the area. [3:54:32, 3:54:34]: And to come do it to make that happen. [3:54:35, 3:54:36]: Uh would be the CID. [3:54:37, 3:54:38]: Um you know. [3:54:38, 3:54:38]: And I think [3:54:39, 3:54:40]: How you doing, Miss Hall? [3:54:41, 3:54:53]: Ms. Hall is uh I'll talk her uh she's done a great job. Talk tell us to council about your experience setting up the CIDs with uh Airport West, East West, and Aerotropolis. [3:54:56, 3:55:00]: Um good evening, Mayor and Council. Um [3:55:02, 3:55:13]: I've been in business now for twelve or thirteen years. My previous experience was working um actually at Fulton County government as a traffic engineer and um [3:55:14, 3:55:15]: After leaving that [3:55:16, 3:55:19]: Leaving the county, I worked with [3:55:19, 3:55:39]: Um I've worked with many CIDs, but specific to what Councilman Alexander mentioned, I started with Fulton Industrial CID, which was a CID in Fulton and excuse me, in Fulton County. And then after that, I went on to work with what most people know as the ATL. [3:55:39, 3:55:50]: Airport CID, previously known as Eritropolis. Um, those are two CIDs that are in two different counties, which is very similar to what um [3:55:51, 3:56:00]: The vision is for this area, which is um what we're calling the Highway 138 CID. So it would be [3:56:00, 3:56:15]: Henry County, um, which includes City of Stockbridge and unincorporated Henry County as well as Clayton County. So we've dealt with Clayton before, um, and we've actually dealt with Henry County before, um, because most of the work [3:56:15, 3:56:22]: will go through the the county as far as the actual certification. Um I did not [3:56:23, 3:56:25]: make a note when um [3:56:26, 3:56:36]: Mr. Peterson asked me if I had any other comments, but I would like to say that because the number of parcels for this potential CID is [3:56:37, 3:56:41]: Because the number of parcels is limited. [3:56:42, 3:56:55]: The additional effort that it would take to form the CID will be minimal because in previous cases where we've had to do a feasibility study, we may have started out with. [3:56:56, 3:57:16]: Um hundreds or thousands of parcels. So we had to do a sampling. In this particular case, we will be contacting all of the parcels in this area and not a sampling. So it's very plausible that we will be able to um move straight into [3:57:16, 3:57:22]: um forming a CID if that is the will of the property owners. Um and so it [3:57:23, 3:57:34]: is really a large investment or down payment toward um the CID. So I know you mentioned that. So I just wanted to state that because [3:57:34, 3:57:40]: we'll be able to get a lot more accomplished during this process. But um [3:57:40, 3:57:42]: Councilman Alexander, like I said, I've worked with [3:57:43, 3:57:47]: I work from Forsyth County to Henry County and from [3:57:47, 3:57:47]: Um [3:57:48, 3:57:53]: Stone Crest area to Douglas County. So we we cover a lot of um [3:57:54, 3:58:14]: not just CIDs but a lot of areas in between because we also um provide planning services. So we have myself as an engineer, architects, planners on our staff. So um we would look forward to working with the jurisdictions involved with this process to um complete um [3:58:14, 3:58:19]: this DID for you guys if that is the will of um the council. [3:58:20, 3:58:21]: Thank you. [3:58:21, 3:58:25]: Yeah, thank you. Appreciate it, Ms. Hall. Any other questions for Ms. Hall or Mr. Peterson? [3:58:28, 3:58:35]: And and not Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. I I just wanted to just ask um Dr. Peterson and Ms. Hall. [3:58:35, 3:58:40]: W what what kind of responses are we getting back from any of the um [3:58:40, 3:58:42]: Uh business owners. [3:58:43, 3:58:45]: We we have we haven't started. [3:58:45, 3:58:49]: We haven't started yet. Uh we would have to vote to to enter into this contract. [3:58:50, 3:58:53]: First Mayor Pro Tem Thomas and I I want to [3:58:53, 3:58:57]: I know we're throwing around CID, but the CID is a community improvement district. [3:58:57, 3:59:05]: And that's where the proposed district, if it is accepted, those commercial businesses would vote to self-tax themselves. [3:59:05, 3:59:10]: And they will use that self-tax to improve the area, whether it's um infrastructure. [3:59:10, 3:59:28]: Anything dealing with uh pedestrian walkway and they have a a large range of things that they can do for so for those on the council are listening in that didn't know what a CID was. No, no, no, no. No, I not get that part, no, that part, but I just wondered had that had that been any kind of soft. [3:59:29, 3:59:32]: uh discussion or any kind of soft [3:59:32, 3:59:37]: uh outreach just to see what what what the temperature may be like. [3:59:39, 3:59:44]: Not not on not on our end, uh Mayor Pro Tem. Uh we haven't entered into a contract, so we [3:59:45, 3:59:45]: Yeah. [3:59:46, 3:59:46]: Okay. [3:59:48, 3:59:51]: Any other questions from Dr. Peterson or Ms. Hall? [3:59:52, 4:00:02]: And if not, because uh all right, if not, then I need a a motion to accept this proposal so we move forward. So moved. Is there a second? [4:00:04, 4:00:09]: Uh Mr. Thomas, mayor prototype Thomas, second that motion. All right. All in favor, please indicate. [4:00:12, 4:00:18]: Okay, um s uh. Is that uh Mr. Blount? I'm sorry I didn't catch your hand. [4:00:19, 4:00:21]: Okay, they must get. [4:00:22, 4:00:22]: Are you in favor? [4:00:23, 4:00:35]: Okay, so unanimous decision. Okay, it's unanimous decision. Congratulations. Ms. Hall, thank you very much for being here. And I know you do an outstanding job for us, without a doubt. Okay. Mr. Peterson, appreciate it. [4:00:35, 4:00:39]: Okay, now next is com my particular comments for today's meeting. First of all. [4:00:39, 4:00:49]: Even though it is Valentine's Day, have Valentine's Day to you, obviously. So hopefully whatever's left of the day you'll be able to enjoy or continue on until to Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday. [4:00:50, 4:00:55]: So hopefully you have a good time eventually with your loved ones and your special special folks you want to spend time with. [4:00:56, 4:00:58]: Uh congratulations to [4:00:58, 4:00:59]: Matt Stafford. [4:00:59, 4:01:01]: Uh Georgia Grant. [4:01:01, 4:01:21]: And also to Sean Mavet, the coach of the uh uh LA Rams for the Super Bowl win yesterday. Fantastic. You had Georgia, Georgia individuals at the leading the pack. So congratulations to them. This happens to be the second time that the Rams won their Super Bowl. They actually won it uh in 2000 as the St. Louis Rams. So I have [4:01:21, 4:01:26]: I'm very proud of that since I'm originally from St. Louis, Missouri as well. So fantastic. Great for the Rams. [4:01:27, 4:01:28]: And uh we'll see what happens next year. [4:01:29, 4:01:32]: Maybe the faculty get there again right. Maybe? We'll see, right? [4:01:33, 4:01:34]: Anyway, on that note. [4:01:35, 4:01:41]: Folks, we're still in a pandemic. All right. Uh so once again, continue to [4:01:41, 4:02:01]: I give you information about the public health department and uh it's located at Madonna. You go by and get the vaccinations, uh 470-661-0005. Mederma and Pfizer is what they the issue there at 135 Henry Parkway. It can also get tested. Now we're gonna mention some other [4:02:01, 4:02:12]: things he got to also gonna get tested at Red Hawk Field, 143 Henry Parkway in Madonna, Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, Monday, excuse me, Monday to Friday, 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. [4:02:12, 4:02:16]: And we have something going on in Stobbridge as well, and I'll get to that just a second. [4:02:16, 4:02:27]: Upcoming meetings. Um downtown Islam authority meeting, 6 p.m. by way of Zoom, third Tuesday of each month, which would be the next one is actually tomorrow night, February 15th. [4:02:27, 4:02:36]: You council advisory committee meeting 6 30. It's a third Tuesday of each month, which is also the Patrick Henry meeting room, and that's the city hall, and that's also tomorrow night. [4:02:37, 4:02:41]: City Council work session and last Tuesday of each month. The next one is February twenty-second. [4:02:42, 4:02:48]: The planning commission meeting four Thursday of each month be 630 by way of Zoom on February 24th. [4:02:48, 4:03:04]: the U Council meeting, 530, the second Wednesday of each month, and the Levi meeting room at City Hall. And that'll next one will be March 9th. The Main Street Advisory Board meeting is second Friday of each month, 9 a.m. And that'll be by the way at Zoom as well. And that's March 11th. [4:03:05, 4:03:25]: Now, here for the city of Stockbridge, the reference to COVID testing is vaccinations. We've done this for the last couple Saturdays at the amphitheater. And so uh actually free drive up uh drive up testing right here at the Stockbridge Amphitheater is Tuesday, tomorrow, February 15th, 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. And uh we have free [4:03:25, 4:03:42]: uh drive up vaccinations uh to be administered uh to citizens on Saturday, March 5th, Saturday, March 12th, and Saturday, March 19th, 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. to get your vaccinations for this coronavirus. It's still out there. So we want you to get vaccinated to be healthy. [4:03:42, 4:03:44]: Stop the spread, right? [4:03:44, 4:03:46]: get healthy in this aspect. So one then one good thing is that [4:03:47, 4:03:49]: Supposedly the the vaccine excuse me the [4:03:49, 4:03:51]: The uh results or the [4:03:52, 4:03:58]: Uh virus is starting to get lower, starting to get smaller, but we still need to get vaccinated, make sure it doesn't rise back up again. We have another wave. [4:03:59, 4:04:18]: There's a continuous salute to veterans. Please forward your pictures to of veterans, including name, branch, branch, rank, and years of service to Mariprotam Thomas, as you present a special tribute to local veterans on a year-long basis here and send your information to Zenovia at City of Stockbridge-G A.gov. [4:04:18, 4:04:20]: Thank you for your service, veterans. [4:04:21, 4:04:41]: Please join Councilman Alexander for uh for a virtual community update. Town hall, Thursday, February 24th, 7 p.m. Discussion topics: City Services, Police Department, Downtown Stockbridge, Vivification, Bridges of Jotaco, and Community Service Recognitions. At town hall will be broadcast live on the city's Facebook page as well on the 24th. [4:04:41, 4:04:43]: of the month, seven PM. [4:04:44, 4:04:55]: Join Mayor Potem Thomas for the 11th annual African American Heritage Celebration, be presented virtually Saturday, Sept uh February 26th at 4 p.m. [4:04:55, 4:05:02]: Pastor TJ McBride of Tabernacle of Praise will be the keynote speaker, and the program will be broadcast live on the city's Facebook page as well. [4:05:03, 4:05:10]: And you have an opportunity to meet the mayor, yours truly, and voice your questions and concerns on Monday, February twenty-eighth. [4:05:11, 4:05:23]: At 10 a.m. to noon. Time slot for 10 a.m. to noon. Call uh Zanovia Pearson to schedule an appointment. This is gonna be done virtually at seven seven zero three eight nine seventy nine hundred, extension two forty-eight. [4:05:24, 4:05:44]: And then uh please join Councilman Alzander once again for the seventh annual Women's History Month Awards, March 6th at uh 2020, of course, at three o'clock. Location says location do be determined. And the program will be broadcast live and on Facebook page. Is it still be determined or do you have a location yet? Sir It's gonna be an Eagles Landing. [4:05:44, 4:05:46]: Country Club. Easy Land Country Club. [4:05:47, 4:05:51]: Okay. And I'm imagining says the country club a certain amount of requirements to attend that. Is that right? [4:05:52, 4:06:09]: Yeah, we'll have we'll be requiring vaccine and um mask. Okay, all right. That's all the that's all the notes I have here for uh announcements. And I'm assuming that there's not an executive session needed for tonight, and it's my assumption. On that note, then now we need a motion to adjourn the meeting. [4:06:12, 4:06:15]: No motion. Okay. Ms. Ganttz, there are a second. [4:06:15, 4:06:18]: Second. All right, Ms. Alexander, all in favor, please indicate. [4:06:20, 4:06:23]: We stand adjourned. I believe that is unanimous decision on that. [4:06:23, 4:06:25]: Good night. God bless y'all. Enjoy your evening. [4:06:26, 4:06:28]: Good night. [4:06:31, 4:06:32]: And now we're recording. [4:06:32, 4:06:33]: That's right. [4:06:34, 4:06:35]: I re allowed a recording. [4:06:36, 4:06:36]: Okay. [4:06:37, 4:06:42]: All right. Um on that note, I have now it is six oh two. [4:06:43, 4:06:56]: And uh on that note, I believe we should go ahead and start the meeting. This will be the council meeting for February 14th, which happy Valentine's Day, everybody, by the way. And uh on that note, I'd like once again call the meeting in order. [4:06:56, 4:07:05]: And um Ms. Gats, since you were having problems earlier, I actually asked Councilman Alexander volunteered to get an invocation. So Councilman Alexander, please. [4:07:05, 4:07:06]: Invocation, sir. Thank you. [4:07:07, 4:07:16]: Okay, because uh is she okay with that? Just want to make sure that she has no that's perfectly fine. Yes. Okay. You councilman Alzheimer, go ahead, please. [4:07:17, 4:07:18]: All right, everyone bow your heads, please. [4:07:20, 4:07:24]: Uh in these times, Lord, we understand that it's your wisdom and your guidance [4:07:25, 4:07:32]: That guides the way. We trust you to take us down the right path to make sure. [4:07:32, 4:07:35]: That we make the best decisions in regard to the citizens. [4:07:36, 4:07:40]: We know that it is your wisdom, your guidance, and your way and your light. [4:07:40, 4:07:44]: That will lead to the path of prosperity in our city. [4:07:45, 4:07:46]: These troubled times. [4:07:46, 4:07:48]: When during the pandemic. [4:07:48, 4:07:50]: You have stirred this ship. [4:07:50, 4:07:51]: To make sure. [4:07:51, 4:07:53]: That we have solid footing. [4:07:53, 4:07:59]: We're on our way out of that. I know. I know that you will lead us. I know that you will guide us. And I know that the understanding. [4:07:59, 4:08:00]: To keep us safe. [4:08:01, 4:08:03]: Let's take a moment to understand. [4:08:03, 4:08:05]: That it is your wisdom. [4:08:05, 4:08:08]: That guided us through this man through this uh situation. [4:08:08, 4:08:09]: And to understand. [4:08:10, 4:08:16]: That this pandemic will come to an end because you said it is so and you wish it to be so. [4:08:16, 4:08:17]: Thank you. [4:08:17, 4:08:21]: For giving the city of Stockbridge its way. [4:08:21, 4:08:27]: And and doing things in the way and in the order and in the guidance that you would have us do them in this meeting tonight. [4:08:27, 4:08:29]: Putting the citizens first. [4:08:29, 4:08:30]: Putting aside all [4:08:31, 4:08:33]: Personal relationships, putting aside all. [4:08:34, 4:08:35]: Grudge is putting aside all [4:08:36, 4:08:41]: in anything that interferes with doing the citizens' business. That is our first charge. [4:08:41, 4:08:45]: And that is your way. And I know that's the way that you would have us do. [4:08:45, 4:08:46]: On this day of love. [4:08:47, 4:08:49]: Have us to share that and to spread that. [4:08:50, 4:08:52]: in the kindness and in the ways of love. [4:08:52, 4:08:53]: On this day. [4:08:53, 4:08:56]: Valentine's Day 2022. [4:08:56, 4:08:57]: Amen. [4:08:57, 4:08:58]: Amen. [4:08:58, 4:08:58]: Well. [4:08:59, 4:09:02]: We can rise uh for the for the pledge of allegiance, please. [4:09:05, 4:09:15]: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, liberty and justice for all. [4:09:16, 4:09:17]: All right. [4:09:18, 4:09:19]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [4:09:24, 4:09:25]: Mayor Ford. Present. [4:09:26, 4:09:27]: Mayor Pro Tem Thomas. [4:09:27, 4:09:28]: Present. [4:09:28, 4:09:30]: Councilman Alexander. [4:09:30, 4:09:30]: Present. [4:09:31, 4:09:32]: Councilwoman Barber. [4:09:32, 4:09:33]: That's it. [4:09:33, 4:09:35]: Councilman Blount. [4:09:35, 4:09:35]: President. [4:09:36, 4:09:37]: Councilwoman Gantt. [4:09:39, 4:09:59]: Present Mayor Ford, you have a quorum. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate that. Council, I have a recommendation for you in reference to the adoption amending the agenda. Um by recommendation, actually from the city uh manager that um items number 15, 16, 17, and 20 be removed. [4:09:59, 4:10:12]: from tonight's agenda and be placed on a work session uh which would be on the 22nd of February and uh due to get get additional conversation and information to be brought forward at that time. Can I get a so move for that please?