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--- title: Work Session Meeting date: 2022-01-25 source: 2022-01-25_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:03, 0:00:05]: Okay, we are now recording. [0:00:22, 0:00:25]: And we are now live on Facebook, ladies and gentlemen. [0:00:29, 0:00:29]: Okay. [0:00:46, 0:00:49]: And we do have a quorum. [0:00:50, 0:00:52]: One, two, three, four. [0:01:27, 0:01:29]: Okay, that is all good. [0:01:55, 0:01:58]: Okay, for compliments. [0:01:59, 0:02:00]: Yeah. [0:02:08, 0:02:11]: Hello everyone. Good good evening. Good evening too. [0:02:14, 0:02:15]: Green, green. [0:02:16, 0:02:23]: All right, uh I have six o'clock, ladies and gentlemen, and uh we have a quorum and the attorneys and the clerk. [0:02:23, 0:02:27]: are present so I like to call our council uh work session meeting. [0:02:28, 0:02:30]: Uh January twenty fifth to order. [0:02:30, 0:02:40]: And on that note, I'd like to ask the clerk, Ms. Holliday, to uh excuse me, excuse me, excuse me, so be it. Um [0:02:41, 0:02:48]: One second here. I'm sorry. Uh Mr. Blount. Mr. Blount, if you uh could honor us with the invocation this evening. [0:02:51, 0:02:52]: Yes, sir. [0:02:52, 0:02:52]: Thank you. [0:02:54, 0:03:00]: Dear Heavenly Gracious Father, we come to you today. Thank you, Heavenly Gracious Father, for your grace and we thank you for your mercy. [0:03:01, 0:03:05]: We ask that you will continue to be with us on this day and on this night as the leaders come together and [0:03:06, 0:03:11]: Heavenly Father, not only are you doing the business of the cities, but make sure that everything that we do will be honorable in thy sight. [0:03:12, 0:03:26]: We thank you for each and everyone on this line today. And I pray that each and everyone on this line and each and every citizen in the city of Stockbridge, Heavenly Father, that you would cover us throughout this pandemic, those that are suffering right now, Heavenly Father, that you would give them peace. [0:03:26, 0:03:29]: Those that are in need, Right Heavenly Father, that you would fulfill those needs. [0:03:30, 0:03:45]: those that are in pain that you will heal their pains. Continue to be with us and keep us as we progressively move through this city, Heavenly Father, doing your hopefully Heavenly Father, those things that we are doing are pleasing in your sight and doing the will of the people, God. We thank you, Lord, for those that are [0:03:45, 0:04:05]: Have elected themselves to come and be elected by the citizens to serve. We thank you that you would continue to cover us and keep us all. We ask that you would bless those, Heavenly Father, that have suffered great loss in the midst of different gun battles and gunfights and all of these things, Heavenly Father, that you would continue to try, Heavenly Father, can try. [0:04:05, 0:04:10]: try to to make things clear to your people, God, that you are still a true and living God and that [0:04:11, 0:04:18]: Healing can come to the land, Heavenly Father. We will just bow down before you. We thank you, God, and we bless you. And it's in Jesus' name we pray. Amen. [0:04:18, 0:04:19]: Amen. [0:04:19, 0:04:21]: Can you please stand for a pledge of allegiance? [0:04:25, 0:04:32]: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. To the Republic for which is then [0:04:32, 0:04:33]: One day she [0:04:34, 0:04:39]: Under God individual indivisible with liberty liberty and justice for all. [0:04:43, 0:04:45]: All right, now madam clerk, roll call, please. [0:04:46, 0:04:48]: Yes, Mayor Ford. Present. [0:04:48, 0:04:50]: Mayor Pro Tem Thomas. [0:04:53, 0:04:54]: Let the record reflect. [0:04:54, 0:04:56]: The ten comments? [0:04:56, 0:05:02]: He's he's present. I see him. He is present. Okay. All right. Councilman Alexander. [0:05:02, 0:05:04]: Present. Councilwoman Barber. [0:05:04, 0:05:05]: President. [0:05:05, 0:05:06]: Councilman Blount. [0:05:06, 0:05:07]: Present. [0:05:07, 0:05:08]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:05:09, 0:05:10]: Present. [0:05:10, 0:05:15]: Mayor Ford, do you have a quorum? Thank you, ma'am. I appreciate it. Council, I need the motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:05:15, 0:05:16]: Sure. [0:05:18, 0:05:34]: Okay, you made a motion. Is there something? What I would like to do is we had a discussion uh over email about uh warming centers in the community. Uh obviously we can't make that decision tonight, but before those entities meet. [0:05:34, 0:05:48]: uh to discuss it in detail to solve it. I think it is wise that we do it because uh you know the meeting is on October February fifteenth, but there's people outs outside in freezing temperatures tonight. [0:05:48, 0:06:05]: that uh we should uh do everything we can to lean forward. So I'd like to make a motion to amend the agenda to discuss potential warming centers in the city so that we can do something about it because we don't have one warming center in the community. [0:06:06, 0:06:07]: Is there a second to that motion? [0:06:09, 0:06:13]: Ms. Barber seconds that okay, Miss Barber seconds that most all in favor, please indicate. [0:06:15, 0:06:19]: All opposed. May Mayor, there's a discussion phase on every vote, so [0:06:20, 0:06:20]: Well [0:06:22, 0:06:27]: There's a motion in the first and the second as a discussion. Well, all right, sir. There's been a motion, it's been a second, discussion. Go ahead, please. [0:06:28, 0:06:48]: Well, I I'm in favor of of of of the uh suggestion. I'm so I'm in favor totally of it, but I think the a discussion among this council is a little premature tonight versus that we don't have all entities that we think need to be involved when it comes to this. We have to understand also when dealing with the homeless, you're dealing with a lot of the homeless, and I understand. [0:06:48, 0:07:08]: There's an immediate need, but there's different components to uh dealing with the homeless. And one of those components, as each and every one of us know, is a mental illness component. Um, and housing, and uh, and how do we deal with that? This council itself is not astute in those areas, and I think that we need to have all parties involved with that. [0:07:08, 0:07:13]: that discussion and and move this forward as quickly as we can, but we have to do it in the right manner. [0:07:14, 0:07:23]: We can discuss it as a council, but I think that we need to make sure that when we discuss it, that we have all parties that's proven into what how we go about doing it. [0:07:23, 0:07:26]: at the table. None of I I I [0:07:27, 0:07:47]: I don't have the answers to discuss this to know how do we handle those elements of it? How do you keep sustainability? Because a one-night stand for the homeless is not what we're looking for. We're looking for a covering throughout those times when it's winter winter time uh uh gonna be more than one night. [0:07:47, 0:07:47]: So [0:07:48, 0:07:54]: How can we as a council have a meeting on it without having inviting those that would give us [0:07:54, 0:07:58]: The knowledge we need to sustain it and to make sure that when it's done. [0:07:59, 0:08:03]: that how do we keep everyone safe that's involved in dealing with this? [0:08:03, 0:08:07]: How do we do this as a council? We we we have to have people on board. [0:08:08, 0:08:10]: The the right people on board to discuss it. [0:08:11, 0:08:21]: I I just think it's premature to discuss it with just this council and who's at hand right now. Why don't we invite someone from the uh that that's done this or doing this? [0:08:21, 0:08:28]: that could be on here and tell us how it's done and we can move this thing forward as quick as we can or other otherwise we're just wasting our time. [0:08:29, 0:08:31]: Talking about something I think each and every one of us want. [0:08:33, 0:08:33]: All right, thank you, sir. [0:08:34, 0:08:34]: If there's [0:08:35, 0:08:45]: Yes, yes, sir, Mr. Thomas Member Protestant Thomas. I I I I would agree somewhat with that, but I think we have to get into the discussion. I think the the motion and the second. [0:08:45, 0:09:05]: is only a discussion and I think in that discussion uh some of those things would be answered and I just think even if we just discuss it just to agree to invite someone here I think that's why it's important uh just to discuss it. Yeah we don't have the answers but in that discussion I think we can sort of [0:09:05, 0:09:25]: Um I think we can sort of start the process and that process may be just to invite. So I'm in agreement with just discussing. And no, we don't have the answers, but in discussing, I think we can uh move forward. Thank you. Mayor, Mayor, if you don't mind. Is there any way that we could invite, go ahead and invite whoever needs to invite and we [0:09:25, 0:09:30]: all agree tonight that we we will discuss this with the parties involved to move this forward. [0:09:31, 0:09:40]: Uh Mr. Bloine, I think Mayor Pro Tem was on point with exactly where I wanted to go, which is we need to discuss it tonight so that we can understand. [0:09:40, 0:09:48]: And the public can understand that there's there's an outcry. That's somebody gonna are gonna be outside in the next twenty days before their collaborative meeting. [0:09:48, 0:09:50]: in the freezing cold and we were [0:09:50, 0:09:52]: We cut we got caught slipping. [0:09:52, 0:09:54]: We need to do something with urgency. [0:09:55, 0:09:56]: To discuss it tonight. [0:09:56, 0:10:08]: So Mr. Gardner made some outstanding uh recommendations. We can flush some of those out tonight and then start the ball rolling. We don't finish it tonight, but we need to get the ball rolling now. [0:10:09, 0:10:15]: All right. On that note, plan of discussion already. So with motion has made been second. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:10:16, 0:10:21]: Okay. It's unanimous decision on that. We'll make that uh number that's number eighteen. [0:10:21, 0:10:23]: Item number eighteen. [0:10:26, 0:10:32]: Uh item number eighteen. Okay. On that note, that's been passed. We'll add that to agenda. Now I need a motion to adopt an entire agenda, please. [0:10:34, 0:10:35]: Oh is there a second? [0:10:36, 0:10:37]: But [0:10:38, 0:10:40]: I saw Miss Barber's hand for a second. Yes, sir. [0:10:41, 0:10:45]: Mayor, I didn't see on that. We we we put out a directive to uh [0:10:45, 0:11:02]: for to bring back the discussion because I we I I believe that in the hardship that's going on right now with with staff and food prices and everything that's going up, I I I truly believe that we need to address this, the ARPA funding as a bonus portion of that going to our employees. I don't recall seeing that on there. [0:11:03, 0:11:07]: Uh I believe that is. [0:11:08, 0:11:09]: A couple of weeks. [0:11:11, 0:11:14]: All right, one second here. I thought that was on the agenda for tonight. [0:11:14, 0:11:16]: I didn't see it on there unless I overlooked it. [0:11:19, 0:11:20]: Where are we here? [0:11:25, 0:11:31]: All right. It looks like that is not on the agenda at this point. [0:11:32, 0:11:40]: Well, it was a it was a directive to be on there. I'm trying to figure out why it's not on there because we asked for this information to come back in two weeks, and then here it is been almost a month. [0:11:40, 0:11:41]: All right. [0:11:42, 0:11:45]: And that was something that the uh [0:11:45, 0:11:49]: Who had a lead on that? Was that uh Mr. Wiggins? You had a lead on that, that aspect? [0:11:51, 0:11:54]: As a function. [0:11:56, 0:11:57]: That was HR initiative. [0:11:57, 0:11:59]: Okay, and [0:12:00, 0:12:04]: HR is not on at this point. I don't see it. [0:12:05, 0:12:16]: Um Mr. Gardner, go ahead, sir. Mr. Knight, when this directive was given, it was given that we could make sure because that was some components put to it. Uh I w we don't want to get into [0:12:17, 0:12:37]: uh increments. We I just want to get something straight across the board. So it wasn't just HR. The city attorneys are supposed to be getting back with us with any legalities or illegalities pertaining to this. So it wasn't just HR. It was, it was, it was a collaborative effort for H uh, I guess HR, uh Mr. Wigan [0:12:37, 0:12:41]: and our city attorneys, but at this point on this phone call, nobody's. [0:12:42, 0:12:43]: He's even addressed it. [0:12:44, 0:12:48]: Okay, stand by say giving that should have been came coming back to the council in two weeks. [0:12:49, 0:12:52]: Stand by sir. Mr. Gardner, you had your hand raised, sir. [0:12:53, 0:12:55]: Uh yes, very quickly. Uh [0:12:56, 0:13:13]: Good evening, uh Mayor, Council members. Um, if possible, we could address that very easily for council and work on that and have it ready um for the next meeting. Or if so, if it's the pleasure council, um [0:13:13, 0:13:21]: You can make an addendum to the agenda and then give us the authority to move forward with working on that if that hadn't been done already. [0:13:22, 0:13:24]: Um from what I hear, it sounds like it has been. [0:13:24, 0:13:29]: So if you allow us to, we'll be able to to be able to put something together and then share that with council. [0:13:30, 0:13:39]: via email and then make it happen. Um very familiar with the same similar situation that we did in the prior city I worked in. So we could accomplish that and move it forward in earnest. [0:13:41, 0:13:52]: All right. Thank you for that, sir. If that's acceptable through the council, we'll move on and adopt the agenda and allow the city manager and the staff to tighten up all the loose ends and be able to communicate with us by email on this aspect. [0:13:52, 0:13:59]: Mayor, this is Jeremy. Sorry, I just joined. I just got the link to join and and heard the the end of the council members' comments. I we have [0:13:59, 0:14:03]: We looked into that while the the ARPA funding issue for incentive payment. [0:14:04, 0:14:10]: In light of some emails that were sent today, I wanna make sure because we may have reached a different conclusion than some other jurisdictions. So [0:14:11, 0:14:17]: I mean, uh yes, we have looked into that, uh, and we'll circle back. We'll work with the city manager and others and [0:14:17, 0:14:18]: Get get that to y'all. [0:14:20, 0:14:31]: All right, thank you. I uh had asked for a motion to adopt the agenda. Uh Councilman Alexander so moved. I believe Councilman Woman Barber seconded that motion. So all in favor, please indicate. [0:14:32, 0:14:52]: All right. Uh it looks like Unanimous decision. Okay, we'll move on. Thank you very much. Um, adoption of the minutes. Before you council, you have several different minutes. Your draft minutes from a special call meeting December uh ninth, a draft uh council meeting minutes from December 13th, draft special call meeting minutes from the 15th of December, and also draft works. [0:14:52, 0:15:07]: session minutes from the 21st of December. Those before you review, we'll actually approve those minutes at our next uh council meeting uh in a couple weeks. Okay. So if there's anything that need to be adjusted, please let the uh clerk know that so we can make the appropriate adjustments. [0:15:07, 0:15:10]: On that note, uh Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments? [0:15:11, 0:15:20]: Here, no public comments, ma'am. Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate that. No, we'll go to old business. Council consideration to appoint members of the downtown development authority board. [0:15:21, 0:15:23]: It's our first actionable business. [0:15:24, 0:15:32]: There are a couple of members, uh, a couple of uh returning individuals that uh wanted to be reappointed uh to the board. Um so [0:15:32, 0:15:37]: Any motions to accept those individuals to continue on as serving on the downtown development authority? [0:15:41, 0:15:42]: Um Mr. Thomas, please. [0:15:44, 0:15:46]: Air forward and council, I move to [0:15:46, 0:15:55]: Except the nominees as presented uh to this council meeting on um January 25th. [0:15:57, 0:16:03]: All right, those those individuals, Robert Custon, and that would be Robert uh Swagger. [0:16:04, 0:16:07]: Of those individuals. Is there a second to that motion? [0:16:08, 0:16:09]: Ms. Barber, second that motion. [0:16:10, 0:16:13]: Okay. All in favor, please indicate. [0:16:14, 0:16:16]: Okay, see okay. Yes, ma'am. [0:16:17, 0:16:25]: I moved to accept Robert Snook Swagner. I wasn't gonna vote on them as a group, but I do vote in support of Robert Swagner. [0:16:26, 0:16:34]: Well wait a minute, the motion well hold on a motion's already made and been seconded. Okay, so and actually the motion involves, I will say, both of those individuals. [0:16:34, 0:16:35]: Okay. [0:16:35, 0:16:36]: And so [0:16:37, 0:16:41]: All right, so all in favor of the motion, please indicate. Once again, make sure we got it right. [0:16:41, 0:16:43]: Okay, looks like we've got four zero one. [0:16:44, 0:16:46]: On that motion. Okay. Thank you very much. Okay. Now. [0:16:46, 0:16:51]: Council consideration appoint a council liaison to the downtown development authority. [0:16:51, 0:17:08]: And uh and and they actually make a recommendation, uh, the downtown development authority individuals make a recommendation, and that would be the Miss Barber or or uh Mr. Alexander. I don't know which what uh does it matter to either one of you whether or not you're liaison or what is the council, what's the council desires here. [0:17:09, 0:17:10]: Mayor. [0:17:10, 0:17:11]: Yes, ma'am. [0:17:12, 0:17:15]: I move that we appoint um councilman. [0:17:15, 0:17:19]: Elton Alexander to the downtown development authority board. [0:17:19, 0:17:20]: Okay. [0:17:21, 0:17:27]: Is there a second? Mr. Blount sucked that. Okay. All right. Uh Councilman Zanna, I would imagine you accept that with no problem. [0:17:30, 0:17:33]: Yes, thank you. Okay. Okay. No problem. Great. So all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:17:35, 0:17:36]: All right. [0:17:37, 0:17:42]: Mayor Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. Is that room for discussion before the vote? [0:17:42, 0:17:44]: Okay, excuse me. [0:17:44, 0:17:48]: Uh and I was I was really I was really slow. I I wanted to [0:17:48, 0:17:53]: hear from uh the two council members, I would like to have [0:17:54, 0:17:57]: heard from councilwoman barber since she was [0:17:57, 0:18:07]: uh recommended by the board and uh and alexander second, but I did not hear uh any uh any comments from them. I'm okay with either one. [0:18:08, 0:18:10]: I just wish I could have um got a [0:18:11, 0:18:12]: Uh, some comments. [0:18:13, 0:18:14]: Um [0:18:14, 0:18:15]: But as it is [0:18:16, 0:18:22]: Uh I'm okay with either one. Um so if there's no comments even coming forward, we'll we'll we'll move forward. [0:18:24, 0:18:29]: All right. I don't Ms. Alexander, Miss Barber, do you have anything you need to say or want to say at this point then? [0:18:33, 0:18:35]: Actually, no, I don't. Um [0:18:36, 0:18:42]: Considering the DDA did make a recommendation of me, I was willing to accept that today. [0:18:42, 0:18:46]: But if not, I'm okay. Um, I will abstain from voting on this. [0:18:46, 0:18:47]: So [0:18:48, 0:18:49]: Right. [0:18:49, 0:18:51]: If you know the comment, yes, ma'am. [0:18:51, 0:19:01]: I'm sorry, I didn't know that the DDA recommended in a particular order. You just said two names that they recommended. I don't really suggest that the DA DDA recommend. [0:19:01, 0:19:12]: anything, even though it's placed in their bylaws at this time from my past experience of person for this past seven years, I really can't well [0:19:12, 0:19:13]: Let us. [0:19:13, 0:19:25]: Yeah, seven years. I seven whatever the amount of time has been. I really um think that uh Councilman Alexander would do well in this area, particularly because of his real estate experience. [0:19:26, 0:19:28]: So be it fine. Mr. Blount. [0:19:28, 0:19:33]: May I would concur, you know, what Mr. Alexander has [0:19:33, 0:19:35]: been on top of [0:19:35, 0:19:41]: uh announcing and looking at different businesses as they come through the city and in the county. [0:19:41, 0:19:44]: Um, he's been on the council for six years. [0:19:45, 0:20:02]: He has very much knowledge on how we're going to move forward, how this is going to move forward. It's not a belittlement of Councilwoman Barber, but I'm just going with experience. We want the high most, in my opinion, the most experienced person to be involved in this. I would uh this is why I voted on uh Councilman uh uh Alexander and I would like to move forward. [0:20:03, 0:20:08]: Okay, if there's no other further comments, the motion's been made, been second. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:20:09, 0:20:10]: You already have a boat, Mayor. [0:20:10, 0:20:17]: Well, I just wanted I'm rechecking this, but since I got it interrupted earlier, rechecking that got it all all favor, please indicate. [0:20:17, 0:20:18]: Okay. [0:20:19, 0:20:24]: Okay, you got three, three, four, four, zero, one. All right. Now we'll move on. Thank you very much. [0:20:25, 0:20:39]: Council consideration to temporarily waive spending authority limits to authorize a city manager to approve police department startup purchases not to exceed a designated amount of and or specify uh counts, excuse me, specify cost. [0:20:40, 0:20:43]: for pre approved categories. And this is uh for Chief Tramor, please. [0:20:45, 0:20:47]: Excuse me. [0:20:47, 0:20:49]: Even mayor council, this item. [0:20:50, 0:20:53]: Before you all previously and uh had been tabled. [0:20:53, 0:20:56]: my understanding that we wanted to do so. [0:20:56, 0:21:06]: To allow Mr. Garner the opportunity to review this and to weigh in on the necessity for this requirement. As you all know, uh it's increasingly difficult to [0:21:06, 0:21:10]: um obtain any supplies, let alone a lot of supplies that are law enforcement specific. [0:21:11, 0:21:18]: And um um as you all know, anything over twenty-five thousand dollars is coming before council as is the case this evening. [0:21:18, 0:21:26]: With uh later requests that we will have to purchase pistols and rifles for the police department, of which are absolutely necessary in order to move forward with our [0:21:26, 0:21:31]: Um goal and time ro timeline of implementing the department by July first. [0:21:31, 0:21:32]: Um [0:21:32, 0:21:35]: We we we've spoken with council. [0:21:35, 0:21:47]: And um I've also spoken with some other law enforcement professionals, uh other chiefs who've been part of the startup of new agencies. And uh there have been exceptions to the procurement code. [0:21:47, 0:21:54]: Um under the the the circumstances of trying to stand this up, especially with the limited time frame that we have. [0:21:54, 0:22:00]: uh to remove some of the uh barriers that are in place um you know at at present [0:22:00, 0:22:12]: The current code provides that anything over$5,000, there's there's there's uh it it's it it has to go out the bid or it has to be bid or we have to receive the uh requisite number of quotes for that. [0:22:13, 0:22:14]: And um [0:22:14, 0:22:25]: But that's even proved the challenge at some point in time. And so what we're asking for is a limited waiver of the current process up to$75,000 for essential purchases. [0:22:25, 0:22:37]: for the police department. And we've identified a number of these. Uh these purchases, of course, would be vetted, they would be approved by the city manager and then uh presented to council and later these purchases would be ratified. [0:22:38, 0:22:46]: as opposed to uh every time we have something over twenty five thousand dollars bringing it before you all during every every council meeting for approval. [0:22:46, 0:22:53]: Um, I do believe that this is something that's absolutely necessary in order for us to move forward in a timely fashion and not slow things down. [0:22:53, 0:23:00]: And um I would like to at the moment allow Mr. Gardner and also um our attorneys [0:23:00, 0:23:04]: to weigh in and and add anything to that that they would like to add as well. [0:23:05, 0:23:06]: Wait, Mr. Gardner, please. [0:23:07, 0:23:10]: Uh very quickly, uh Mayor Council members. [0:23:10, 0:23:13]: Uh spoke with Chief Tremor and uh agreed. [0:23:13, 0:23:14]: Um [0:23:14, 0:23:33]: With this uh in this circumstance, because obviously time is of the essence in terms of starting up the new police department. And so I I agree and concur with the recommendation um for this limited waiver. Uh and once we've addressed all of the issues we need to address under the waiver, that it that it goes away. [0:23:35, 0:23:38]: All right. Go ahead, Mr. Berry. [0:23:38, 0:23:43]: Uh thank you, Mayor. Uh I I I agree with the city manager and the chief on this. [0:23:43, 0:23:49]: In a good year, uh the police department would need to purchase, you know, dozens of items. [0:23:50, 0:23:50]: Now [0:23:50, 0:23:59]: Given COVID and supply chain issues and everything else, we're just trying to see how we can expedite it and and do it in the proper way. So uh we've been working with the chief to to get this done. [0:24:01, 0:24:04]: Council, what kind of concerns or uh comments do you have? [0:24:05, 0:24:07]: Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. [0:24:09, 0:24:13]: Uh yeah, I think that when you're talking about purchases, um [0:24:13, 0:24:15]: Chief, for me. [0:24:16, 0:24:22]: We we look at even with um when we talk about uh public works that lump some [0:24:23, 0:24:26]: amount that is needed and then work off that amount. [0:24:27, 0:24:37]: Because what we're working on now is not a is not an amount, is that we're opening the door and saying there's no okay, we're eliminating competitive bidding right now by by waving. [0:24:38, 0:24:39]: by waving uh [0:24:40, 0:24:41]: Procurement process. [0:24:42, 0:24:51]: But what is that amount that we're gonna need that you project that we're gonna need? Because then you you're saying that this is the amount we're gonna need and we're gonna pull from that amount. [0:24:51, 0:25:04]: versus saying that we're going to remove competitive bidding and wherever we need to put this and do this. Because if when you remove competitive bidding, then you're removing a lot of oversight of processing. Um [0:25:05, 0:25:07]: certain things that could could be interesting. [0:25:08, 0:25:12]: say the least. So I'm just saying what do you have a projection of an amount? [0:25:13, 0:25:15]: Uh from these Opera funds that whether you [0:25:16, 0:25:21]: go over and know in a ballpark, figure what you're gonna need now until the next meeting. [0:25:21, 0:25:25]: Is that something like that because that we can approve because [0:25:25, 0:25:30]: When we removed procure uh procurement process, we're removing competitive bidding. [0:25:31, 0:25:34]: And and something that we're doing. That's what I'm concerned about. [0:25:34, 0:25:40]: Sure, and I understand we're not talking about uh Councilman Blount, just about ARPA funding. Uh to answer that question. [0:25:41, 0:25:47]: Um Mr. Wiggins and I we've sat down and we've gone through and and we've looked at things that that potentially be eligible for that. I believe [0:25:48, 0:25:51]: Um we currently approved an an encumbered um [0:25:51, 0:25:52]: Uh [0:25:52, 0:25:59]: somewhere in the ballpark of four point eight million dollars, four point nine million dollars in ARPA funding for capital expenses for the department. [0:25:59, 0:26:03]: Um it was projected that we would need probably about five point five and so [0:26:04, 0:26:08]: somewhere in the ballpark of five hundred to seven hundred thousand dollars additional [0:26:08, 0:26:10]: funds from that account in order to [0:26:10, 0:26:11]: Um [0:26:11, 0:26:18]: to to purchase the necessary additional necessary equipment that uh would be required to start the department up. [0:26:18, 0:26:19]: Now [0:26:20, 0:26:25]: This doesn't pertain just to ARPA. So we have within our budget that's already been approved. Say for instance [0:26:25, 0:26:33]: We have a um a line item in our current police department operating budget for 2022 for$170,000 for uniforms and equipment. [0:26:34, 0:26:41]: Well, when we purchase bulletproof vests, and let's say that that purchase is twenty-eight thousand dollars, that means that I have to bring that before council. [0:26:41, 0:26:43]: To get approval based on the current parameters. [0:26:43, 0:26:57]: uh whether we have free quotes or not, that's something that has to come before council. And obviously it builds in an additional delay in us procuring that equipment, which already has a delay because there's a shortage on the materials to make ballistic vests. [0:26:57, 0:27:08]: Same thing applies to uniforms. It's anticipated that the cost for uniforms for officers is going to be about forty thousand dollars. So again, be another item that we have to bring before council and they're absolutely essential. [0:27:08, 0:27:13]: purchases and those would come specifically out of our police operating budget, not necessarily the ARPA fund. [0:27:14, 0:27:15]: So um [0:27:15, 0:27:21]: Hope hopefully that that that that answered your question. I'm not sure if it did entirely, but if not, please. [0:27:21, 0:27:24]: Yeah. Well not entirely because if we [0:27:24, 0:27:34]: If we got identifiable funds that are in certain areas, whether it's the police uniforms, uh vests and all these areas, those are identifiable funds that are uh [0:27:34, 0:27:40]: that that that are in one pool or if you will of what we've agreed as a budget for that. [0:27:40, 0:27:54]: So if you go outside of that with with with purchases outside of procurement, where are those fund, where's that funding gonna come from? Because if you got funding for vests and uh other funding for different things, those are already earmarked for those things. [0:27:54, 0:28:00]: But if you go in and now you're saying that you're gonna probably need more and more of this or whatever. [0:28:00, 0:28:03]: Then how where are those fundings gonna come from other than [0:28:04, 0:28:07]: uh amending the budget to make that happen. I'm just trying to figure out. [0:28:07, 0:28:10]: Hey Chief, can I can I step in? [0:28:10, 0:28:11]: Oh yeah, sir. [0:28:12, 0:28:16]: Go go ahead, Mr. Wiggins. Mr. Gardner, we'll get to you in a second. So go ahead. Oh I'm sorry. Uh [0:28:16, 0:28:18]: City Manager, you you can go ahead. [0:28:18, 0:28:21]: No, I I was gonna say very quickly, uh Councilman go Blount. [0:28:21, 0:28:25]: I I think what Chief is saying is it's not that we're gonna go um [0:28:26, 0:28:33]: and exceed what those budget line items are, it's just because those budget line items might be above twenty-five. [0:28:33, 0:28:42]: That rather than having to wait two to three weeks or longer for council approval or through the bid process to get those equipment, because as you know. [0:28:42, 0:28:44]: As everybody's trying to attract [0:28:44, 0:28:52]: Police officers and and as I as I said before, you're trying to get a bunch of fish out of a small pond and everybody's fishing from that same pond. [0:28:53, 0:28:56]: that speed for us is of the essence because [0:28:56, 0:29:00]: When you go into that porn to get uniforms and you find out that you're now six months [0:29:01, 0:29:01]: Behind [0:29:02, 0:29:05]: And trying to address it, you're gonna have officers who are coming on board with no [0:29:05, 0:29:17]: with no uniforms. It's not to exceed the amount. It's just to be able, if the amount is over that 25 threshold, to be able to go ahead and still spend within what's the within the line item budgeted amount for those items. [0:29:17, 0:29:19]: Could I move our own key through? [0:29:20, 0:29:25]: Well, I'm I'm gonna just to say if I will, um y'all forgive me. I'm just trying to just get an understanding before I vote. [0:29:26, 0:29:32]: I'm if if the money is already in the budget for certain items and for certain things that need to be bought. [0:29:32, 0:29:37]: I'm okay with using those funds for what we have to buy for with those funds. [0:29:38, 0:29:41]: I just don't want because we don't have competitive bidding. [0:29:41, 0:29:44]: To come back in the next thirty days, say or or [0:29:45, 0:29:52]: Four or five months from now, saying that because we removed the competitive bidding process, now we have to amend the budget. [0:29:52, 0:29:55]: To compensate for that. That's that's my concern. [0:29:57, 0:30:12]: We we we don't anticipate sir amending the budget. Uh we we we do not um i we have no plans whatsoever adding anything to the currently approved budget uh to acquire the additional things that we need to acquire. The only the only caveat would be is that [0:30:12, 0:30:17]: that there are certain equipment and technology purchases that could be funded through ARPA as opposed to [0:30:18, 0:30:21]: um uh other um funding sources. [0:30:21, 0:30:27]: And so um uh if that's something that uh the council wanted to consider in terms of [0:30:27, 0:30:38]: you know, some limitations on additional funding in that area, that that's certainly I think um uh another conversation. But as was indicated before, um it's it it it's estimated that [0:30:38, 0:30:46]: Uh as it relates to the ARPA fund since you initially uh led with that, that we anticipate somewhere in the ballpark of of five hundred to seven hundred thousand dollars. [0:30:46, 0:30:52]: um additional in in funds that uh we could utilize from that account, which should still leave. [0:30:52, 0:30:55]: And Mr. Wiggins, please correct me if I'm wrong. Um, in addition to [0:30:56, 0:31:02]: the the things have already been encumbered for public works, um the the the remaining half portion of those ARPA funds available. [0:31:03, 0:31:05]: For uh other uses. [0:31:05, 0:31:08]: that that uh the council would um would approve. [0:31:10, 0:31:17]: Okay, Mr. Wiggins. Yeah, go ahead, Mr. Wiggins. Uh thank you, ma'am. Sorry about um before um go ahead, sir. No problem. [0:31:17, 0:31:18]: Cheap, cheap. [0:31:18, 0:31:20]: You you're correct. We we um [0:31:21, 0:31:25]: Most of the large purchases have already gone through council, like uh [0:31:26, 0:31:29]: You know, the vehicle equipment, vehicle computers and stuff. [0:31:29, 0:31:31]: That those big purchases have already gone through. [0:31:32, 0:31:35]: I think the extra five hundred thousand that that Chief is is talking about [0:31:36, 0:31:37]: It's already [0:31:37, 0:31:38]: In [0:31:38, 0:31:39]: The offer funds. [0:31:39, 0:31:44]: and ready to be used. It's just that it just hasn't been identified on what. [0:31:45, 0:31:48]: And whenever Chief come around to you know, he might need some more pistols that might [0:31:49, 0:31:52]: be twenty six thousand dollars that you want to use from the ACA funds. [0:31:53, 0:31:56]: That hasn't been identified yet. So when that comes around. [0:31:57, 0:31:59]: In in instead of uh [0:32:00, 0:32:01]: Putting on the agenda. [0:32:02, 0:32:07]: We we want to go through this process right here to kind of speed things up because we got the July first deadline. [0:32:07, 0:32:09]: Я звелиз а [0:32:10, 0:32:12]: Getting uh at least forty officers in. [0:32:12, 0:32:14]: In in on the ground. [0:32:16, 0:32:17]: Ms. Gantt, please. [0:32:17, 0:32:19]: Stand by, Mayor Proten. Ms. Camp, please. [0:32:20, 0:32:40]: I'm fine. I'm ready to vote up just so long as it's within the budget. And I hope that each director and each department are able to have that same leeway at some point. If something if if they're beyond the budget and overspent, that's on them. There's nothing else and they're gonna be held accountable for it. But if it's in the budget and I I get it right now to have to come back. [0:32:40, 0:32:40]: [1960.6, 1974.2]: um after 25,000 when you may need up to 75,000 right now. As long as it's not over the budget, I'm good with it. And I think we should think about that practice throughout the city in general to save time in the future. [0:32:55, 0:32:56]: Mirapal Tim, go ahead, please. [0:32:57, 0:32:58]: Thank you. Um [0:32:58, 0:33:02]: Chief Chairman and um city manager um [0:33:02, 0:33:10]: I'm okay with this process because I do understand uh the urgency. Uh earlier this morning, um [0:33:11, 0:33:13]: I emailed a number of you um [0:33:13, 0:33:15]: With a concern the man um [0:33:16, 0:33:25]: Chief Chairman, I did not include you on the email and Mr. Wiggins as well, but everyone else sort of received that and that's sort of my concerns. But those were just questions. [0:33:26, 0:33:35]: that I want an answer to. I know Mr. Wiggins gave us a report, but I guess I was asking for additional information outside of that report. That's number one. [0:33:36, 0:33:36]: Um [0:33:37, 0:33:41]: Number two, uh in looking at the agenda packet, it says [0:33:42, 0:33:43]: Um [0:33:43, 0:33:46]: the city manager to approve [0:33:46, 0:33:49]: Polish department startup purchases. [0:33:50, 0:33:59]: Uh in the supporting doc document, the resolution, it says uh authority for police department to make informal purchases. [0:34:00, 0:34:03]: The question what I want to make sure, uh Chief Chairman, is that [0:34:04, 0:34:04]: Uh [0:34:05, 0:34:25]: When you decide to make these purchases, and and I I think I know the answer, but I just want to hear this uh for is uh your relationship with the city manager, uh your communication with the city manager. So before these things go forward, you and the city manager will have some conversation and he would [0:34:25, 0:34:31]: Somewhat approve uh of these purchases. I I I don't see that language, but I'm assuming. [0:34:32, 0:34:39]: That this is the way this uh communication is going to go. And I guess this is a question for Chief Trammer and um [0:34:39, 0:34:40]: City Manager. [0:34:41, 0:34:43]: Am I correct in my assumption that [0:34:44, 0:34:55]: You all will have a continuous dialogue and the city manager will be uh informed of every purchase that you are about to make and he will sort of say yay, nay. [0:34:55, 0:34:57]: I am I correct in in my assumption? [0:34:57, 0:34:59]: Yeah, Mr. Garner, go ahead, sir, please. [0:35:01, 0:35:14]: I I I think that's correct and uh Chief Trauma, I don't know if you wanna to concur or not, but that's that's exactly what I'm s the I'm of the impression that the process would be that if Chief Trauma identified um [0:35:14, 0:35:29]: uh an item, a supply item that's above that twenty-five, that he would come and say, Mr. Gardner, this is what we're looking at. Here's what we have in terms of pricing. Here's who the vendor is. And as long as it's within that parameters, that yes, I would sign off on it as well as Chief Church. [0:35:31, 0:35:35]: I concur with it, that's correct. It as a matter of fact, I think that [0:35:35, 0:35:42]: The the current the current uh uh procurement code for the city requires directors, anything over five thousand has to be approved. [0:35:43, 0:35:47]: by the city manager and so there would be conversations for those purchases and [0:35:47, 0:35:52]: Those approvals would be appr uh uh approved by Mr. Gardner in advance. [0:35:53, 0:35:56]: Lastly, uh so Mr. Gardner, would you sort of [0:35:56, 0:36:16]: uh keep up keep the council abreast as far as uh your report and and that i'm not going to uh get into this discussion tonight but i do want to talk to you about the city manager's uh monthly report so i'm hoping that uh these kind of movements would be included in some [0:36:16, 0:36:18]: kind of uh reporting [0:36:19, 0:36:22]: uh from you to the council. And I know I'm sort of [0:36:22, 0:36:29]: uh jumping here because you and I and and you and the council we have not talked about your reporting uh to the council. So [0:36:30, 0:36:38]: Uh I I just hope that that is uh going to be in place. So uh I I'm I'm okay. I'm in favor of that. I just want to sort of put that out. And I don't know. Um [0:36:38, 0:36:44]: Uh city manager, if you wanna just make a comment to the email that I put out uh earlier today. [0:36:44, 0:36:46]: Oh if you're not sure. [0:36:46, 0:36:51]: We're working to to answer those questions for you and get them back to you and council. [0:36:51, 0:36:52]: Thank you. [0:36:52, 0:36:56]: I yield back, Mayor. Okay, thank you, sir. Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [0:36:58, 0:37:03]: Uh Mayor Pro Tem Thomas actually asked my question. It was regarding the reporting. [0:37:03, 0:37:06]: I wanted to know how often would the council [0:37:06, 0:37:07]: Um [0:37:07, 0:37:12]: be providing information as far as what expenses. [0:37:12, 0:37:14]: Okay. As incurred. [0:37:15, 0:37:16]: But it sounds like [0:37:16, 0:37:20]: Um Chief Tramer and Mr. Gardner is going to be reporting that to us. [0:37:21, 0:37:27]: I don't know how frequently, but they already have a plan to do that. Thank you. All right, Ms. McGann, go ahead, please. [0:37:27, 0:37:43]: Mayor, I move that we approve the temp and the temporary waiver of spending authority limits to authorize the city manager to approve police department startup purchases not to exceed the designated amount and or specified cost for pre-approved categories. [0:37:43, 0:37:44]: Okay. [0:37:44, 0:37:50]: Okay, Ms. Um Councilman I was not second that I would imagine no further discussion. So all in favor of motion, please indicate. [0:37:51, 0:38:04]: All right. And I've unavounced decision. Fantastic. Okay. I do have one quick question. This motion is this specific to the police department? I know councilwoman can't just read. Yes, it's only the police department. Yes. [0:38:05, 0:38:06]: So in the police department this time. [0:38:07, 0:38:14]: All right. On that note, uh council consideration approved residential code enforcement fee schedule. Ms. Johnson, please. [0:38:14, 0:38:15]: I she yawned. [0:38:16, 0:38:19]: And and uh may I um [0:38:19, 0:38:26]: Uh Miss Johnson is is uh sick today and isn't part of the meeting, so I will [0:38:26, 0:38:38]: Do my best to address that item tonight. Go ahead, please. As you know, back in and the December meeting, um there was a list of code enforcement um [0:38:39, 0:38:46]: items that came up both residential and commercial together and I think council wanted those items bifurcated split. [0:38:46, 0:38:56]: um residential and commercial. And so what you have before you is the other half of that equation. Um, let me pull this up. [0:39:02, 0:39:17]: Yep. So what you have before you is the um residential code enforcement, which is in line with the excuse, Ms. Fred, excuse me, Miss Garner. Are you trying to share your screen, sir? There's not no sir. No, no, no. I assume it's part of your packet. [0:39:17, 0:39:32]: Okay, okay, good. Thank you so much. Yeah, um un unfortunately I'm reading unfortunate I'm reading for my cliff notes that the staff provided me on this item because he's unable to attend the meeting tonight. So yes. Um so what you are before you is the um [0:39:32, 0:39:46]: the fee schedule for the residential component um that was asked um requested um including the property maintenance code and um it is the wish of council to uh approve um [0:39:47, 0:39:48]: The um [0:39:48, 0:39:52]: code enforcement fee schedule for residential. [0:39:53, 0:39:54]: All right, fine. [0:39:54, 0:39:55]: Uh uh Ms. Gann, go ahead, please. [0:39:56, 0:40:02]: Um, do we know whether or not a warning is given prior to and then we began finding thereafter? [0:40:02, 0:40:05]: After the no first notice of a [0:40:05, 0:40:07]: That there is a possible violation. [0:40:08, 0:40:24]: It is my understanding that that code enforcement follows that protocol, which is customary everywhere that I've actually worked and controlled in over code enforcement. You get a warning and then subsequent to that warning, if you don't adhere to it within a certain time period, you are issued a citation. [0:40:24, 0:40:25]: Okay. [0:40:25, 0:40:30]: Um mayor, I move that we approve this residential code enforcement fee schedule. [0:40:31, 0:40:37]: All right, all right. Is uh miss Mr. Blount to second that, but I'm gonna go to discussion. Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [0:40:38, 0:40:41]: Um yeah, I do have one question. [0:40:41, 0:40:42]: What is [0:40:42, 0:40:44]: Openable windows. [0:40:44, 0:40:45]: Just curious. [0:40:46, 0:40:51]: One of the items that's on this D schedule, openable windows. [0:40:52, 0:40:53]: It's the last item on here. [0:40:55, 0:40:56]: Mm-hmm. [0:40:57, 0:40:59]: I I have to admit I don't I'm not sure personally. [0:41:00, 0:41:13]: Uh uh coun council bubble, I wouldn't I do not know that one off the top of my head. I apologize, but I can find out and and send everybody a note tomorrow morning very nearly what that actually is. Okay. [0:41:14, 0:41:16]: Uh Heather Hubble, you have your hand raised. [0:41:17, 0:41:19]: Yes, uh apologize. [0:41:19, 0:41:21]: Uh good evening, Mayor and Council. [0:41:21, 0:41:23]: I think the word should be operable. [0:41:23, 0:41:24]: Windows? [0:41:25, 0:41:27]: Um, and I think that will rectify it. [0:41:28, 0:41:28]: Okay. [0:41:29, 0:41:33]: Thank you for that. We'll double check that. Appreciate it. Appreciate your assistance. Okay. [0:41:33, 0:41:37]: A motion's been made and been seconded. Any further discussion? [0:41:38, 0:41:39]: If not, all in favor of motion, please indicate. [0:41:40, 0:41:44]: to accept this fee schedule and it looks like it's unanimous. Okay, fantastic. [0:41:44, 0:41:45]: All right. [0:41:45, 0:41:46]: All right. Good deal. [0:41:47, 0:41:53]: New business council consideration to approve change order number twenty seven for the work conducted by H. J. Russell and Company. [0:41:53, 0:41:58]: An amount of thirty eight thousand two hundred and sixty eight dollars and thirty three cents for the purchase and installation of a stage. [0:41:59, 0:42:02]: a perforated sulfit panels, acoustical. [0:42:02, 0:42:20]: At the amphitheater. The change order was recommended as a mandatory design change by the architect TSW. The Artacousco panels were installed in August 2021. So Ms. Johnson's not online, so I would imagine this is going to be done by um [0:42:21, 0:42:24]: Oh Fred, there you go. All right, sir. [0:42:24, 0:42:28]: Mr. I thank you, uh Mr. Mayor and [0:42:28, 0:42:32]: I think it's explan self explanatory, it's acoustical. Um [0:42:32, 0:42:39]: to limit the amount of sound to mitigate the sound impacts on adjacent neighborhoods and surrounding areas. Um [0:42:39, 0:42:48]: Obviously, this was a recommendation based on some of the comments that came through. I know we do have should have some representative here from TSW and HJ Russell. [0:42:48, 0:43:03]: checking was to answer any questions that that uh council may have. But this apparently this item came forward back and was paid for back. Well done the work was done back in August of twenty twenty one and the the amount is being brought to council now to [0:43:03, 0:43:05]: um pay for the um [0:43:06, 0:43:07]: The additional change order. [0:43:09, 0:43:09]: Okay. [0:43:10, 0:43:11]: So uh [0:43:11, 0:43:14]: Uh Carl, do you need to respond or add anything else to that, sir? Go ahead, please. [0:43:14, 0:43:16]: I do wanted to [0:43:16, 0:43:18]: Uh and good evening, council and and uh [0:43:19, 0:43:20]: And hey, it's good to see you guys again. [0:43:21, 0:43:29]: Um just wanted to uh clarify that um the the expenditure for this change was contemplated. [0:43:29, 0:43:36]: in the previously approved uh uh budgeting uh back in February of last year. So [0:43:36, 0:43:46]: No additional funding above the already approved uh funding for the amphitheater is needed for this. This is strictly brought to you because it exceeds the threshold. [0:43:47, 0:43:48]: uh for city council approval. [0:43:50, 0:43:51]: Okay. [0:43:51, 0:43:54]: Heather, do you have any other additional comments that you want to make at all? [0:43:56, 0:43:57]: Okay, you good? [0:43:58, 0:44:01]: All right. Uh council, what kind of questions, concerns do you have? [0:44:03, 0:44:04]: Um uh Mr Blank, go ahead, please. [0:44:05, 0:44:12]: Man, I think this is a step toward uh something that the community, surrounding community is asking for and it's something that we uh [0:44:13, 0:44:15]: As a council, I believe we expect it to happen anyway. [0:44:16, 0:44:22]: And I think the senses in within the uh budget of what's supposed to have been done and and and they're doing. [0:44:22, 0:44:24]: I would like to move ahead and approve it. [0:44:25, 0:44:28]: So you're making a motion on that, sir? Yes. I said. [0:44:28, 0:44:36]: Miss Blank Gantt seconds seconds that motion. If there's no further discussion, I don't have okay, Miss go ahead, Miss Barber. [0:44:36, 0:44:41]: According to Mr. Gardner, um this was something that was already [0:44:41, 0:44:42]: Uh [0:44:42, 0:44:44]: The work has already been complete. [0:44:45, 0:44:47]: Correct, Mr. Gardner. [0:44:47, 0:44:53]: That is my understanding, uh, Councilmember Barber, that the acoustical panels were installed back in August of twenty twenty one. [0:44:54, 0:44:59]: Okay, and this was an effort to mitigate some of the issues with sound. [0:45:00, 0:45:01]: That is my understanding, yes, ma'am. [0:45:01, 0:45:10]: Okay, can a representative from either H Russell, TSW, or Kreckenwoods um show an image of this? I'd like to know. [0:45:11, 0:45:14]: What area what this actually [0:45:17, 0:45:27]: I don't know. Do uh do you gentlemen have anybody have a a picture or something diagram to show an image of uh this all if you can share at this point? Explain exactly what this is supposed to do. [0:45:29, 0:45:35]: I think Heather, if if you would just explain where this occurs on the stage and uh and what it does. [0:45:36, 0:45:39]: Sure. So this is at the ceiling of the stage. [0:45:39, 0:45:43]: Um, if you are uh looking at the stage. [0:45:43, 0:45:47]: Um, you have the kind of wood paneling on the sides. [0:45:48, 0:45:51]: But directly above the stage is a gray panel. [0:45:52, 0:45:53]: Um and it's perforated. [0:45:54, 0:46:02]: So it allows sound to come up into that space and be absorbed by a soft uh acoustical blanket. [0:46:02, 0:46:03]: Uh and this [0:46:03, 0:46:06]: traps the sound and keeps it from bouncing. [0:46:07, 0:46:09]: uh to additional locations. [0:46:10, 0:46:13]: But I do not have a picture prep this evening. I apologize. [0:46:14, 0:46:19]: Okay, so this was um performed prior to our concerts. [0:46:20, 0:46:21]: Okay, that is correct. [0:46:22, 0:46:29]: There are still some concerns with the sound, even with the installation of this. [0:46:29, 0:46:31]: Um, so I don't know if [0:46:31, 0:46:34]: uh additional work. [0:46:34, 0:46:38]: Um can be done to help mitigate some of the sound issue. [0:46:40, 0:46:44]: Is this was this the only thing that was suggested? [0:46:44, 0:46:45]: Because we still have people. [0:46:46, 0:46:55]: If I may, uh, Councilwoman Barber, this particular item was specific to the acoustics of the stage and the listening environment of [0:46:55, 0:47:03]: The audience. So this was never intended to address any um sound issues beyond that were emanating beyond. [0:47:04, 0:47:06]: uh the amphitheater proper. [0:47:10, 0:47:14]: Okay. So co so council Mumbai, I would I would say yes. D that [0:47:14, 0:47:25]: As we move forward w the we would have to look at what and obviously from a cost standpoint was best to to probably address some of the issue the issues from the surrounding neighborhoods that [0:47:26, 0:47:28]: And correct me if I wrong this be actually behind. [0:47:29, 0:47:30]: The stage area. [0:47:31, 0:47:33]: Um and there's some obviously some [0:47:34, 0:47:39]: the different types of equipment and that can be utilized for that. Some of it can be natural. [0:47:40, 0:47:42]: Um, some of it can be obviously man made. [0:47:42, 0:47:50]: Um and I assume that the best order of businesses and talking with the engineers and consultant would be to determine which one is the best. Um [0:47:50, 0:47:53]: And which one is of obviously cost effective? [0:47:53, 0:47:56]: Um about not spending more money than we have to. [0:47:57, 0:47:59]: Um, to accomplish the same thing. So [0:48:00, 0:48:01]: Whether that could be [0:48:02, 0:48:03]: Um [0:48:04, 0:48:06]: Two or three rows of Leland cipher staggered. [0:48:07, 0:48:12]: you know, five feet on center or whatever, because at some point that'll address some of the sound areas. [0:48:12, 0:48:13]: Um [0:48:13, 0:48:20]: from the adjacent to the adjacent properties or some wall barrier, but if it's a wall barrier, obviously you know it's gonna cost more. [0:48:20, 0:48:21]: Okay. [0:48:21, 0:48:28]: Uh, be a little bit more expensive, but that's something that we can we're looking at. I know that was discussed when I first came on board. I think me and John Griggins talked about that. [0:48:29, 0:48:30]: Um [0:48:30, 0:48:31]: When I came to visit [0:48:32, 0:48:39]: Um, about some of the s things we could do to mitigate some of those sounds. So we'll investigate that with the engineers and find out which one is the best and bring that back to you guys. [0:48:40, 0:48:41]: Thank you. [0:48:41, 0:48:43]: You want to go ahead, please. [0:48:44, 0:48:51]: Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm I'm in concurrence with uh Councilman Barber because it was a little confusing to me, but I as you all was talking, I figured it was this. [0:48:52, 0:48:55]: For acoustical sounds just like we're trying to do up in Merrill Mandas. [0:48:55, 0:49:05]: One of the things that we got to start being about and and and and quit talking about is those things that are in total completion of the amphitheater that helps the communities. [0:49:06, 0:49:11]: Uh prior to the amphitheater being built, we talked about what barriers would we put up. [0:49:11, 0:49:14]: What type of barriers would we put up to mitigate sound? [0:49:15, 0:49:17]: From the amphitheater, we talked about this. [0:49:17, 0:49:21]: Uh and so we're about to go into another season. [0:49:22, 0:49:36]: of uh concerts and yet still we're talking about it and up and and w with all due respect to the new city manager here, uh Mr. Gardner, uh I hope those talks become shortened and then we actually start doing some action because [0:49:37, 0:49:44]: On this me on my election on this council is never about anything, and I'm not it's not any any beliterment of any of my colleagues. [0:49:45, 0:49:50]: It's never about how I feel about anybody or any situation. We're all here to serve every city single citizen. [0:49:51, 0:49:52]: And when we talk about [0:49:53, 0:49:58]: what we want when we build anything raised an amphitheater cultural arts center is police station. [0:49:58, 0:50:00]: When the vision is not complete. [0:50:01, 0:50:03]: Then the effect in the effects of that vision. [0:50:04, 0:50:05]: Афекс та коммуніті. [0:50:06, 0:50:10]: then we we have a problem that somebody's dropping a ball. [0:50:10, 0:50:14]: Because right now we're talking about mitigating sound. [0:50:15, 0:50:20]: Well we've already had two concerts and this concert and this uh and this amphitheater's been up for quite a while. [0:50:21, 0:50:23]: So many things with this amphitheater. [0:50:23, 0:50:25]: Should have been simultaneously done. [0:50:26, 0:50:27]: And it wasn't done. [0:50:27, 0:50:30]: And so right now we're saying at this meeting [0:50:31, 0:50:35]: That it'll be February when we talk about again about mitigating sound. [0:50:36, 0:50:44]: Throughout the neighborhoods, hopefully we'll have something in place prior to the concerts, even if it's not up, that the that the citizens will know it's coming. [0:50:45, 0:50:46]: Thank you. [0:50:46, 0:50:48]: All right. Any further comments or discussion? [0:50:49, 0:50:50]: Yes, ma'am. [0:50:51, 0:51:03]: I just want Mr. Gardner to know, um, just so I think I had sent an email prior to Mr. Knighton when he was here, um, some of the um citizens of the neighborhood at this over. [0:51:04, 0:51:04]: Um [0:51:04, 0:51:18]: a solution they would like us to look at. And it was more of a digital type of hertz sound technology that was created by some engineers that helped reduce the sound going towards the back. [0:51:18, 0:51:23]: Um, but anyway, um I'll try to forward that email over as soon as I can. [0:51:24, 0:51:25]: Yeah. [0:51:26, 0:51:32]: Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. I I briefly I just want to respond to an issue. [0:51:32, 0:51:33]: Um [0:51:34, 0:51:35]: Aye. [0:51:35, 0:51:40]: supported this from the beginning of some kind of sound barrier. [0:51:41, 0:51:46]: I did not get any support on that because the council and the city manager at the time felt that. [0:51:47, 0:51:50]: It was going to look like a prison. [0:51:50, 0:51:52]: Uh aesthetically. [0:51:52, 0:51:56]: So I just want the record just to reflect that I knew then. [0:51:57, 0:52:03]: uh what we was dealing with but again I I didn't get any support on that. So if you go back to the records and check. [0:52:03, 0:52:11]: I I spoke this on more than one occasion and didn't get no support. Now and now here we are now. So I'm saying that to say that. [0:52:11, 0:52:16]: Uh my voice did go to that area. I didn't get any support. So it was talked about. [0:52:17, 0:52:20]: It was talked about, but then we start talking about [0:52:20, 0:52:24]: planting shrubbery and that and I knew that was not going to do it. [0:52:25, 0:52:26]: Thank you, sir. [0:52:26, 0:52:28]: All right. Miss Barber, you had your hand up again? [0:52:30, 0:52:36]: Okay, so I know everybody is talking about all the discussions that have been had of regarding [0:52:37, 0:52:38]: The construction of this amphitheater. [0:52:39, 0:52:40]: I want to say this publicly. [0:52:42, 0:52:45]: I was sworn in the year of the construction of this amphitheater. [0:52:46, 0:52:47]: So the approval. [0:52:48, 0:52:51]: Of the award of this amphitheater and to construct it. [0:52:51, 0:52:53]: And where to construct it. [0:52:53, 0:52:55]: How to construct it. [0:52:56, 0:52:59]: I wasn't a part of any of those conversations. [0:52:59, 0:53:00]: However [0:53:01, 0:53:03]: I know as of last year. [0:53:03, 0:53:05]: And even in twenty twenty. [0:53:05, 0:53:07]: As it was being constructed. [0:53:07, 0:53:10]: We had conversations in regards to [0:53:10, 0:53:11]: Um the sound. [0:53:12, 0:53:14]: I do recall um [0:53:14, 0:53:16]: Making a suggestion regarding [0:53:17, 0:53:18]: A wall fencing. [0:53:19, 0:53:20]: Trees [0:53:21, 0:53:22]: Things of that nature. [0:53:22, 0:53:24]: Nonetheless, we have an issue here. [0:53:25, 0:53:28]: The sound and we need to find ways to resolve it. [0:53:28, 0:53:29]: Um [0:53:30, 0:53:33]: I don't think this is going to be the end of it. [0:53:33, 0:53:38]: Um this thirty-eight thousand dollars is just beginning of what we need to do to rectify the situation. [0:53:39, 0:53:41]: So I hope that Mr. Gardner [0:53:41, 0:53:43]: Along with um Miss Hubble. [0:53:43, 0:53:46]: Um and Mr. Kirk. [0:53:46, 0:53:52]: And and Carl, can please bring us some viable solutions so we can mitigate this issue. [0:53:53, 0:53:55]: So good. We'll do. [0:53:55, 0:53:56]: Thank you. [0:53:56, 0:54:07]: Uh Mayor. Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. Let me say this. And I've said this from the beginning, okay? I'm shoot straight with the people. Okay. And let's let's shoot straight with the people. [0:54:07, 0:54:09]: If you live close to the amphitheater. [0:54:09, 0:54:11]: I don't care what we do. [0:54:11, 0:54:13]: The sound is going to be a problem for you. [0:54:14, 0:54:15]: That's just how it is. [0:54:16, 0:54:17]: We can do what we can do. [0:54:18, 0:54:27]: But I'm not gonna shoot false hope and spend a million dollars and then we still got sound. If you live next to the amphitheater and we got a concert going on, [0:54:28, 0:54:29]: You go hear it. [0:54:29, 0:54:48]: There's nothing that we can do to move the amphitheater. It's there already. But in the end, we got to weigh what the odds are, how much money we're going to spend. I'm sympathetic to the issue, but at the same time, we cannot throw out this panacea of false hope that we're going to put a dome over the amphitheater and the sound is going to go away. [0:54:48, 0:54:55]: It don't matter how much money we spend, the sound is not going to go away. It's still going to be there. [0:54:55, 0:55:03]: It might be lessened somewhat on a scale of 100, maybe 20%, maybe 15%, but it's still gonna be there. [0:55:03, 0:55:08]: So let's understand this is where we are now and let's deal with it realistically. [0:55:09, 0:55:11]: And spending the appropriate amount of money. [0:55:12, 0:55:32]: To see what we can do about mitigating it. And but let's not throw out this false panacea that we're gonna solve the problem, because we're not. We made a decision, this city did in the LCI and the pro port to build the amphitheater where it was recommended by the Atlanta Regional Commission and the Livable City. [0:55:32, 0:55:33]: Centers initiative. [0:55:33, 0:55:37]: There was numerous meetings over a ten to twelve year decades. [0:55:37, 0:55:43]: Where there was information provided that this is where we're gonna be built in 2015. [0:55:43, 0:55:48]: This council voted to put forever theater plan B. [0:55:48, 0:56:08]: And that was the decision that was made, and we move forward with it. So I am sympathetic to the neighbors that live in that particular area, but this is going to be a vibrant, thriving downtown area, and there's going to be concerts there, and this is what we're trying to deal with in the most meaningful way possible. [0:56:08, 0:56:09]: Thank you. [0:56:10, 0:56:16]: All right. Seems like everybody had some conversation here. So the motion was made and uh seconded. So all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:56:17, 0:56:21]: All right, I believe it's unanimous decision looks like okay, good deal. [0:56:21, 0:56:22]: Appreciate it. [0:56:23, 0:56:24]: Um [0:56:26, 0:56:46]: Council consideration to extend moratoriums pertaining to resolution R21-1259 retaining relating to the building of residential rental properties in the R21-1286 relating to hookah bars and/or lounges, cigar bars and/or lounges. [0:56:46, 0:56:54]: Lounges, uh R21 uh thir one three six zero moratorium extension. And I imagine this is going to be. [0:56:54, 0:56:55]: Uh Mr. Gardner again. [0:56:56, 0:57:16]: Yes, sir. Very quickly, uh Council members. Um, as you know, we are in the process of developing the Unified Development Code. Um, that code is currently under review um for under legal scrutiny by our consultants. Um and due to that, um, there's a need to extend the moratorium for the completion of. [0:57:16, 0:57:36]: that work and to make sure that we don't have any loopholes that would allow for those entities to come into the city during this time. So our staff is requesting that that you extend the moratorium. And it's our hope to have the work uh and the UDC adopted by March 14, uh 2022. Uh and there after that point, I'll [0:57:36, 0:57:56]: We will address the issues of where those uses are permitted, not permitted, as part of our code. But right now the UDC is being reviewed for legal, legal, legal scrutiny, and we need that additional time to make this happen and to extend the moratorium so that we don't have any of those businesses coming into the city during the time this under legal review. [0:57:57, 0:57:59]: Okay. Um Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [0:58:00, 0:58:04]: Mayor, I motion that we move to go ahead and uh and extend the memoratorium on the resolution. [0:58:05, 0:58:06]: Sir Second. [0:58:06, 0:58:07]: Second. [0:58:07, 0:58:13]: Ms. Barber seconds that is that what you were gonna say, Miss Barber? You had your hand raised. That was that was that was it? Okay. [0:58:13, 0:58:15]: Are there any further discussions? [0:58:15, 0:58:20]: Really quickly. Mr. Thomas Square, please. Thank you. May I I [0:58:21, 0:58:29]: Mr. Gardner, what what what what I want to say, I just want to make sure going back to the uh UDC, um [0:58:29, 0:58:39]: the goalposts keep moving. And I understand that, you know, this is not easy. But I I I want to sort of just lend voice to uh say to you, sir. [0:58:39, 0:58:43]: And to community development uh director. [0:58:43, 0:58:45]: that uh and the and the legal. [0:58:46, 0:58:49]: Uh we need to get these documents reviewed. [0:58:50, 0:58:50]: Um [0:58:51, 0:58:55]: And and let's make sure that uh we get this done because uh [0:58:56, 0:59:00]: It was scheduled to have been completed in October of twenty twenty one. [0:59:01, 0:59:04]: So the goalposts continue to move. Um [0:59:04, 0:59:12]: In my conversation, it was due in February. Now we talk in March. So Mr. Gardner, um, Mr. Berry. [0:59:13, 0:59:17]: Let's see if we can go ahead and bring this home. If you're suggesting March. [0:59:17, 0:59:20]: Let's see if we can't meet that date. Thank you. [0:59:21, 0:59:23]: That is the goal, Councilmember Thomas. [0:59:25, 0:59:26]: Ms. Gantt, go ahead, please. [0:59:26, 0:59:28]: Oh, n never mind, I'm fine. [0:59:28, 0:59:31]: You're fine. Any other comments? Council. [0:59:31, 0:59:33]: Yeah, real quickly. Go ahead, sir. [0:59:33, 0:59:38]: We we we revisit these items and I always like to make sure folks know what we're talking about. [0:59:38, 0:59:58]: We have certain businesses that are saturated in the city that we're trying to limit the total number of. We previously passed a resolution about the dollar stores, or we passed a rental resolution, different businesses that were saturated in different areas so that we can have a variety of businesses in the nation. [0:59:58, 0:59:59]: neighborhood. [0:59:59, 1:00:03]: This is what this is, ladies and gentlemen. A lot of you all out there complain about [1:00:03, 1:00:10]: the different kind of businesses because we have so many pawn shops or we have so many tire shops and or [1:00:10, 1:00:30]: Or and our unwanted certs so-called uses. We're trying to deal with those because most of those businesses came to this community before us. So we can't put anybody out of business and we don't want to put anybody out of business, but we certainly don't want to continue to uh collect or to attract those types of business. [1:00:30, 1:00:42]: businesses. We don't want four beauty salons in one uh particular strip or or types of businesses. We want them to be varied and that kind of thing. So this is what we're dealing with. [1:00:42, 1:01:02]: And this so you understand that we're hopefully the ULDC that's coming forward will be able to capture all of those things so that you have the very businesses in your community that you've been uh talking about. I hear it all the time. We got enough tire shop, we got enough nail shots, we got yes, that's what we're dealing with right here, is significant. [1:01:02, 1:01:03]: Thank you. [1:01:04, 1:01:13]: All right. Uh Mr. Blount, do you have your hand up for something else, sir? Yeah, real quick. Um, I don't know if any of the councilmen got we supp supposed to be getting something that [1:01:14, 1:01:16]: When we talk about these different [1:01:16, 1:01:24]: a memoratorium d what defines those memor uh those businesses uh sp in specific because we see uh [1:01:24, 1:01:38]: We see around the city that's some circumventing of this memoriatorium that's been going on. So we need something to see what defines this memoriatorium pertaining to these businesses. That would be great to to get because uh [1:01:39, 1:01:59]: I mean, we we don't we I don't would never want to see one of the elected officials in an argument about something and we don't wouldn't know what we were talking about. I want to see something that defines uh these businesses. Um, because like I said, and I'm uh hate to sound like a broke record, there this ordinance is being this some moratorium. [1:01:59, 1:02:03]: is being circumvented with other big other uh businesses. [1:02:05, 1:02:07]: Ms. Gantt, go ahead. Go ahead, Ms. Gantt. [1:02:08, 1:02:12]: I think one of the things um that I do have a concern of now, if we brought that up. [1:02:13, 1:02:33]: That there are existing bars and lounges and maybe restaurant bar lounges that may have there's a difference between a hookah bar and a cigar bar that strictly sells only hookahs and have a menu of hookahs, and a cigar bar that strictly sells cigars and have a menu of cigars. But when you have clubs and lounges, [1:02:33, 1:02:49]: Well, lounges here. That's what they're considered in Stockbridge. When you have a lounge that has alcohol and you have the ability to have some hookah items on your menu, not necessarily a hookah bar with nothing but hookah. [1:02:50, 1:02:52]: then you're taken away if if [1:02:53, 1:03:09]: the bar isn't allowed to have those three or four five hookah flavor options. Now I don't smoke hoopah I don't smoke anything but right now the way it's written it looks like even existing [1:03:10, 1:03:30]: facilities that are present and active in our community are not allowed to have one, you know, amid five selections of hookahs or four selections of hookahs, whereas a hookah bar would have 25 or 30 selections of hookahs. So I think there is a difference [1:03:30, 1:03:50]: Difference there. It's not their primary thing that they item that they serve, but it has caused some friction and it has caused some issues and it has caused other businesses to call and tell on each other and go back and forth. So what we need to do is make sure that those things aren't limits. This is not personal. [1:03:49, 1:04:09]: This is not, you know, my friend or anyone's friends. We need to do this across the board for all businesses, especially those that are already operating. Clubs, lounges, or whatever. They're gonna have a specific amount, but they're not specified as a particular cigar lounge or a cigar bar. They may have a cigar area where [1:04:09, 1:04:26]: you can smoke a couple of cigars, but they don't necessarily are they're not selling and and smoking or a hookah bar or hookah lounge when they only have a couple of items that they're selling. So I think that is um causing a lot of problems and I'm getting a lot of phone calls about that. [1:04:28, 1:04:30]: All right. Mr. Gardner, you had your hand up, sir. [1:04:31, 1:04:36]: Yes, I was going to to address the issue of if if you're aware of [1:04:36, 1:04:39]: A new establishment that that is coming in. [1:04:39, 1:04:43]: Obviously let us know where those are so we can go and ascertain. [1:04:43, 1:04:51]: Whether they are legal under the moratorium or not. Um, under the more under a typical moratorium, if you were pre-existing prior to the date of that moratorium, [1:04:52, 1:04:53]: You could continue. [1:04:53, 1:04:58]: to be in business, the moratorium doesn't shut you down. It just says you can't know other [1:04:59, 1:05:03]: Or know any new establishment can be established during the time period in which you're doing [1:05:03, 1:05:21]: the moratorium and usually it is to do a study or to address through new ordinances or regulations. So if someone if it is a new entity and they're in viol you think they might be in violation, um let us know where they are. It's just a a quick investigation if they can prove that they're [1:05:22, 1:05:24]: They're operating within the confines of the law. [1:05:25, 1:05:29]: They'll continue. If they're not, then we'll shut'em down because they're in violation. [1:05:29, 1:05:30]: But if you're aware of it, let us know. [1:05:32, 1:05:33]: Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [1:05:33, 1:05:38]: I I would agree with with Mr. Alexander, you know, that we don't want a saturation. [1:05:39, 1:05:40]: Um [1:05:40, 1:05:42]: Two points real quick. [1:05:42, 1:05:45]: There's certain permitting is done to open up a hookah lounge. [1:05:46, 1:05:48]: And we've seen that come through. [1:05:48, 1:05:52]: City Hall. Certain permit are permits are done to open a hookah lounge. [1:05:53, 1:05:55]: And because you're serving a burger. [1:05:55, 1:05:56]: Or something else. [1:05:57, 1:06:05]: That doesn't mean you circumvent the per permitting process and say, Hey, we can put a hookah in this corner or we can put cigars in that corner. [1:06:06, 1:06:07]: That circumvents the process. [1:06:08, 1:06:08]: D [1:06:09, 1:06:12]: People that are legitimately getting those businesses. [1:06:12, 1:06:16]: are going through the permitting process to do those businesses. [1:06:16, 1:06:23]: Now, when you circumvent the process, you're circumventing our permitting procedure process. [1:06:24, 1:06:26]: And you're doing it because you are serving a burger. [1:06:27, 1:06:31]: Or you do have this and you have the wings and you have that food or whatever. [1:06:31, 1:06:32]: That [1:06:32, 1:06:42]: That doesn't fly. We have a permitting process for hookah lounges. And when you sell hookah, we do have a permitting process and the memorial tourum is for [1:06:42, 1:06:45]: A halt on that process. So if you're doing it. [1:06:46, 1:06:49]: And you haven't applied for the permits for it? [1:06:49, 1:06:51]: Or you can apply for the permits for it? [1:06:52, 1:06:55]: then we need to look at those businesses and say they need to shut it down. [1:06:55, 1:06:56]: As simple as that. [1:06:58, 1:07:05]: Ms. Ms. Holliday, uh I'm my it's my assumption we have a motion that was uh but that was been made and seconded. Is that correct? [1:07:05, 1:07:11]: Uh motion made by Councilman Blount, second by Councilwoman Barber. Thank you, ma'am. Any further discussion? [1:07:11, 1:07:13]: And if not, all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:07:14, 1:07:17]: It's unanimous decision. Okay. Appreciate it. Thank you very much. [1:07:19, 1:07:37]: Okay, council consideration true to approve task order number 33.2 with Carter Sloop, GIS mapping program for stormwater in the amount of$134,570. The funding source is ARPA, and this is going to be presented by Mr. Aaron, sir. [1:07:38, 1:07:40]: Please. Yes, good evening, Mr. Mayor and Council. [1:07:40, 1:07:52]: The City of Stockbridge currently holds an MS4 stormwater permit issued by the Georgia Environmental Protection Division, promulgated on the rules of the Environmental Protection Agency. [1:07:52, 1:07:58]: As part of our permit, we're required to map and identify all of our stormwater infrastructure. [1:07:58, 1:08:07]: And we have over 20,000 structures. We're also required to inspect one fifth of those structures every year. So at the end of five years, [1:08:07, 1:08:13]: We've inspected all of the structures. So we've come tonight asking counsel to allow us to move forward with having our [1:08:13, 1:08:22]: infrastructure uh GIS located and identified. The location will include like inlets and outlets uh [1:08:23, 1:08:27]: Um oxidate I'm gonna say detention and retention ponds. [1:08:27, 1:08:30]: And also other stormwater infrastructure. [1:08:30, 1:08:33]: as required by our MS4 permit. [1:08:34, 1:08:40]: All right, sir. Appreciate that. Um council, any questions, um, concerns you have for Mr. Aaron? [1:08:44, 1:08:47]: Mr. Aaron go ahead, sir. Go ahead, Mr. Go ahead, please. [1:08:48, 1:08:53]: Yes, sir. Mr. Aaron, I just well, you know, I was driving down North Henry Boulevard today. [1:08:54, 1:09:05]: And I saw that those manhole covers was starting to be filled in. I don't know, I guess is that uh would did we do that or did uh G Dot do that? We got we moving forward with that. [1:09:05, 1:09:19]: We've moved forward with raising the city's manholes. GDOT has that they will contact the other utilities to get them to raise their manholes, but the ones that have been raised are a part of the city's sewer system. [1:09:19, 1:09:28]: Well, absolutely. Well, excellent, because you know we've been dodging that obstacle course for quite a while. So I noticed that today when I was driving down North Henry. [1:09:28, 1:09:32]: And uh it certainly was uh much appreciated. I just wanted to make that note. [1:09:33, 1:09:36]: Okay, any further questions or concerns for uh Mr. Aaron? [1:09:36, 1:09:40]: And if not, I need a motion to approve the request that he has here. [1:09:42, 1:09:43]: Is there a motion? [1:09:43, 1:09:44]: Come. [1:09:44, 1:09:49]: Ms. Camp. And second by Mr. Alexander. Okay. Any further discussion? [1:09:49, 1:09:51]: If not, all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:09:53, 1:09:55]: Okay, so you now see Susan. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. [1:09:55, 1:09:57]: Thank you, Mayor and Council. [1:09:57, 1:09:57]: All right. [1:09:58, 1:10:07]: Council consideration to approve uh stop bridge and youth council's uh request to adopt Tye Street from North Henry Boulevard to Red Oak Road. [1:10:08, 1:10:10]: And this says presented by you, Mr. Aaron. [1:10:10, 1:10:18]: Yes, Mr. Mayor. Uh in October of 2021, the uh council adopted the city's Adopt the Road Program. [1:10:18, 1:10:25]: And it formalizes the ways adopted in the process they have to follow to remain in compliance with the program. [1:10:26, 1:10:31]: And one of the requirements is that they do come before council to be formally approved. [1:10:31, 1:10:36]: to adopt the role. This was scheduled for January 10th since that was ceremonial meeting. [1:10:37, 1:10:46]: And the youth council has already conducted one cleanup during the King weekend. So we just want to formalize that council approved them to officially adopt the street. [1:10:47, 1:10:49]: And Miss Gann, go ahead, please. [1:10:49, 1:11:03]: Mayor, I would like to thank the Stockbridge Youth Council and let them know that I really appreciate them making a huge community effort, Ms. Harvey and everyone else that's on the board. [1:11:03, 1:11:05]: Thank you so much. [1:11:05, 1:11:12]: for taking um to for volunteering to adopt a road. And having said that, I would like to make a motion to approve this adoption. [1:11:13, 1:11:14]: Okay, is there a second? [1:11:15, 1:11:17]: Mr. Blount, raise his hand for a second. [1:11:17, 1:11:24]: Okay, any further discussion? Yep, ma'am. Yes, sir. Oh, go ahead. Did you second you you s you are seconded in that motion, is that correct? [1:11:25, 1:11:30]: You talking to me, ma'am? Yes, sir. Yeah, Ms. Blount, did you say that? Yes, but I had a I had a statement. Okay, go right here, please. [1:11:31, 1:11:50]: Yeah, I I just want to concur. Uh I've, you know, this youth council uh meeting each and every one of them, I'm really proud of them. I see them uh really, really buying into leadership in the city of Stockbridge. Um this past week, uh weekend, we was at uh downtown, as you know, for the uh Cities United Summit. [1:11:51, 1:11:51]: Um [1:11:52, 1:11:55]: Everywhere we went, everywhere I went, I'll put it that way. [1:11:56, 1:12:01]: People was talking about how sharp our our students look, how uh even even during the um [1:12:02, 1:12:05]: Um legislative breakfast. [1:12:05, 1:12:08]: People like, oh man, these guys are sharp, they look good, and [1:12:09, 1:12:20]: Our youth council was one of the one of the highlights of the of the whole weekend when they when they got up in that uh hotel and walking around and they they was very courteous. [1:12:20, 1:12:22]: And and people want to take pictures with them. [1:12:23, 1:12:25]: And uh in fact uh Mr. Garden, I was [1:12:26, 1:12:46]: Talking to Mr. Gartner and this guy come up to us and said, Hey, you know, uh you guys from Stockbridge, hey, and he started talking about the youth council. So I I just say hats off to the youth council and the job that uh this uh Erica that you're doing with the youth council and uh all the volunteers and uh they're they're a sharp looking little group, I tell you. Well, I'm forgive me. They're a sharp looking group. I always say a little group. [1:12:45, 1:12:48]: Yeah, sharp you nice, nice looking group. [1:12:49, 1:12:56]: I will have to concur with your comments, sir. I really appreciate that. Outstanding. They were outstanding. Ms. Alexander, go ahead, please. [1:12:56, 1:13:08]: Yes, I just want to concur all of those comments. And let me say on for uh the Martin Luther King service project we did at Keystot Ridge Beautiful, they sh the youth council showed up and they showed out. [1:13:08, 1:13:12]: They were there, they worked from the beginning to the end. [1:13:12, 1:13:32]: They took the shovels, they dug the holes, they put the dirt, you know, they got down and they got their hands dirty, they went out and they picked up litter. So I always tell them when the people show up, a lot of times people show up, we don't do photo ops. They did not show up for a photo op, they showed up to work. So kudos to them. And I certainly did really, really appreciate it. [1:13:32, 1:13:38]: We wouldn't have been able to get the work that we did done without them. So thank you, Stock Ridge Use Council. [1:13:40, 1:13:48]: All right, uh are there any other further comments and if not, the motion was made and seconded. So all in favor of the motion, m Mr. Blount. [1:13:48, 1:13:51]: I I I'll be remiss if I don't say this, forgive me. [1:13:52, 1:13:52]: Um [1:13:53, 1:13:55]: Miss Miss Erica Harden was there. [1:13:55, 1:14:01]: But I I don't wanna say uh alleviate that that our staff we have a staff member there, Ms. Randy Rainey. [1:14:01, 1:14:07]: And the job that they did, I don't wanna I don't wanna exclude her, the job that they did was outstanding. [1:14:07, 1:14:13]: Even to the point where people talked about them, even on their scourging that they went on. So I I don't want to exclude Ms. Randy Rainey from that. [1:14:14, 1:14:16]: Absolutely. Right. Concur. All right. [1:14:17, 1:14:20]: A motion was made and second. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:14:21, 1:14:24]: And I see a name's decision. Okay, fantastic. [1:14:25, 1:14:26]: Okay. [1:14:29, 1:14:49]: Council consideration to accept FY 17, 18, 19, 20, C D BG subrecipient agreement for the city of Stockbridge, an amount of$305,725 from the Henry County Community Development for the Smith Barnes Sewer Basin Rehabilitation Phase 2 project. Mr. Aaron, please. [1:14:49, 1:15:09]: Yes, Mr. Mayor. Staff along with uh Falcon Design has been working on this rehabilitation project as part of the city's overall sewer system infrastructure improvement program. This is one of several projects we we have that is ongoing, but this area has been an issue for at least 15 plus years. So this [1:15:09, 1:15:22]: project will improve and correct the issues we're having with sewer spills in that Smith Barn sewer basin. So we're asking the city to approve this agreement so we can receive those funds from the Henry County Community Development. [1:15:23, 1:15:26]: Thank you, sir. Questions for Mr. Aaron, please. [1:15:26, 1:15:27]: Questions, concerns. [1:15:29, 1:15:30]: Yeah, it's Barber Goya, please. [1:15:31, 1:15:32]: Is this a lump sum? [1:15:34, 1:15:45]: Yes, ma'am, for this part of we we received funding for phase one, which was video and then camera and so that we can identify the areas that were of concern. [1:15:45, 1:15:48]: So this is continuation of this project. This is phase two funding. [1:15:49, 1:15:50]: Thank you. [1:15:50, 1:15:51]: Yeah, forward, um [1:15:52, 1:15:54]: I'm going to accept uh disagreement. [1:15:55, 1:16:00]: Okay, uh Miss Barber made a motion, Mr. Gank a second that motion. Any further discussion? [1:16:01, 1:16:03]: If not on favor of motion, please indicate. [1:16:04, 1:16:06]: Yeah, she now she's getting fantastic. [1:16:07, 1:16:08]: Fantastic. Okay. [1:16:09, 1:16:29]: Council consideration and approve and award a fixed contract to the lowest responsive response responsive responsible bidder, RDJE incorporated invitation to bid ITM number 2021-0012 for the city of Stockbridge Smith Barnes Sewer Basin Rehabilitation Phase 2, an amount of 1 million two and four thousand. [1:16:29, 1:16:31]: thousand dollars five hundred and five hundred [1:16:32, 1:16:45]: Uh and then also has eight hundred ninety-eight thousand seven hundred eighty dollars from the ARPA funds and three hundred and five thousand seven hundred twenty-five dollars from C DBG funds presented by Mr. Aaron, please. [1:16:46, 1:16:54]: Yes, Mr. Mayor, this is the awarding of the contract so that we can begin that project of the rehabilitation of the Smith Barn Sanitary Sewer Basin. [1:16:55, 1:16:55]: Okay. [1:16:56, 1:16:58]: Questions. Oh Mr. Alexander, go ahead, please. [1:16:59, 1:17:02]: Yes, uh Mr. Uh Aaron, you have previously mentioned [1:17:03, 1:17:06]: That you we had reached out to apply for some additional [1:17:07, 1:17:11]: uh ARPA funds and with the um ruling that we've heard r recently. [1:17:11, 1:17:14]: The tightening of how to spend these funds on [1:17:15, 1:17:17]: Public works infrastructure. [1:17:17, 1:17:19]: So public safety and covet. [1:17:19, 1:17:29]: Obviously those time that there should probably should be some more funds available coming our way since we have shovel ready projects uh in this aspect. Do you have an update on that? [1:17:30, 1:17:50]: Uh yes I do, but unfortunately they moved the the date back as to when they'll notify the recipients. It was supposed to be, I think, January 31st, but they pushed that date out farther. But we have submitted three additional three projects for inclusion in the governor's ARPA funds. So we're waiting to hear word. [1:17:50, 1:17:52]: Like all the other governments. [1:17:53, 1:17:54]: From the governor's office. [1:17:55, 1:18:02]: Outstanding. We got shovel ready projects. I would suspect that we should be suspect uh uh expecting a return on that. So thank you. [1:18:03, 1:18:04]: Laura we [1:18:04, 1:18:05]: Go ahead, Mr. Blount. [1:18:07, 1:18:10]: Mr. Aaron is this let me just [1:18:10, 1:18:12]: Oriented mys included of the uh [1:18:13, 1:18:18]: The area right there at that corner where the rubble strips come right there at that corner right there. [1:18:18, 1:18:35]: This it goes north from Smith Barnes Elementary School. It's pretty much the neighborhood that's bounded by Ty Street over to uh Wilson and that area in there and over to Memorial Park. Might as well say from Memorial Park. [1:18:36, 1:18:38]: to Smith Barnes Elementary School. [1:18:39, 1:18:42]: Okay, because I know at one one time we had something going on with that. [1:18:43, 1:18:45]: Station right there. [1:18:45, 1:18:48]: You you recall that, remember we talked about it been quite a little [1:18:48, 1:18:50]: over a couple of over a couple of years ago. [1:18:51, 1:18:55]: And we had to go through several backyards or something that happened there. I I don't know exactly what that was. [1:18:56, 1:19:09]: Yes, sir. That was the Glen Addy pump station that was replaced in a previous project. Glen Addy and I think Wild Wind or in that area, that was replaced in an earlier project. [1:19:10, 1:19:12]: Okay, well quick question on that. [1:19:12, 1:19:17]: When we replace that because of those properties, that we make sure that we [1:19:19, 1:19:22]: did whatever beautifications back to those properties. [1:19:22, 1:19:23]: Yes, sir, we do. [1:19:24, 1:19:24]: Okay. [1:19:25, 1:19:28]: That's it. Thanks. Mayor Pro Tem Thomas, go ahead, please. [1:19:29, 1:19:33]: Thank you, Mayor. Um Mr. Aaron, this is sort of an indirect question, not [1:19:34, 1:19:36]: pertaining to the subject at hand. [1:19:36, 1:19:40]: Um infrastructure, um rescue funds. [1:19:41, 1:19:51]: And I know the uh and I know Mrs. Hubble is is on the line as well. I know the uh cultural arts may not be uh chevro red at this particular point in time. [1:19:51, 1:19:52]: Um [1:19:53, 1:20:00]: My concern though is the infrastructure pertaining to the um cultural arts. [1:20:01, 1:20:05]: Um can you or Mrs. Hubble so to speak to [1:20:05, 1:20:07]: Yeah, can we do a point of order, please? [1:20:08, 1:20:24]: Right, yeah, right. And if we need to go into other discussion, we make a motion to amend the agenda, but that's that's not even pertaining to what's at hand right now. [1:20:24, 1:20:30]: Well, I understand that you're right. And Miss Huddle, by the way, Mayor Putem is not online. She is she is not online any longer. [1:20:31, 1:20:32]: At all. [1:20:33, 1:20:36]: Okay, well the only reason I spoke this because we we started talking about [1:20:37, 1:20:44]: uh Glenn Addy and Wildwin and and and that that we've talked about Smith Barnes, but but I I I'll yield back to that. But you know. [1:20:44, 1:20:55]: Uh we did sort of take this discussion um down the road somewhat, but uh I'm okay with that, sir. Any further conversation in reference to the subject at hand uh from the council? [1:20:55, 1:20:59]: And if not, then I need a motion to accept the proposal. [1:21:00, 1:21:02]: I'm moving there. Okay, is there a second? [1:21:03, 1:21:04]: Very good. [1:21:04, 1:21:06]: Mr. Alzheimer seconds that [1:21:06, 1:21:10]: Um motion was made and seconded. Uh Miss Yes, Miss Gantt. [1:21:10, 1:21:14]: No, I'm voting. [1:21:15, 1:21:16]: Okay. [1:21:16, 1:21:17]: Yeah, I'll pose. [1:21:19, 1:21:19]: That's [1:21:20, 1:21:23]: I abstained. Um four zero one. [1:21:24, 1:21:25]: Okay, four zero one. Thank you. [1:21:26, 1:21:28]: Thank you, Mr. Mayor and Council. No problem. [1:21:29, 1:21:37]: All right, uh Council consideration approved the purchase of 55 pistols for the city of Stockbridge Police Department. Funding source OPRA. Chief Trammer, please. [1:21:40, 1:21:43]: Sir, thank you. Um we're seeking council's approval. [1:21:43, 1:21:50]: or purchase in the amount of twenty-eight thousand one hundred and sixty dollars to purchase fifty-five pistols from ed's public safety. [1:21:50, 1:21:58]: Uh this purchase is gonna be off the Georgia State contract and that information is referenced in the uh agenda packet. Um [1:22:00, 1:22:10]: We would be seeking to uh purchase these uh with ARPA funding. And again, the money that we had mentioned earlier that we had just that we uh projected that already been encumbered. [1:22:10, 1:22:12]: We were factoring in these purchases on that as well. [1:22:12, 1:22:18]: So we would be seeking that twenty eight thousand one hundred sixty dollars in parking funding to purchase the pistols from the police department. [1:22:19, 1:22:19]: Okay. [1:22:19, 1:22:21]: Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [1:22:22, 1:22:24]: Uh my question because we just approved [1:22:25, 1:22:25]: Um [1:22:26, 1:22:35]: a temporary stay, if you will, of of of of um the procurement process. Was the procurement process used for these purchases? [1:22:37, 1:22:38]: Yep, it was. [1:22:40, 1:22:40]: Okay. [1:22:41, 1:22:44]: Any further questions for Mr. Vati Trammer? [1:22:45, 1:22:47]: If not, I mean a motion to accept this proposal. [1:22:49, 1:22:52]: Miss Miss B Miss Barber, you you're so moving? [1:22:52, 1:22:55]: I have a question. You have a go ahead, please. What's your question? [1:22:56, 1:22:57]: Tramor um [1:22:58, 1:23:01]: This is the purchase piggybacking off of a state contract. [1:23:02, 1:23:07]: Yes, as public safety holds a state contract for uh blocked fiscal sales. They're one of several. [1:23:08, 1:23:14]: Um entities uh across the state that are on state contracts provide this particular uh [1:23:14, 1:23:15]: Weapon. [1:23:15, 1:23:17]: Okay. Mayor Ford, I'd like to make a motion. [1:23:17, 1:23:24]: to approve the purchase of fifty five pistols for the city of Stockbridge Police Department. [1:23:24, 1:23:30]: Mr. Alexander second that motion. Any further discussion? All in favor, please indicate. [1:23:31, 1:23:48]: Nancy Susan, thank you very much. Okay, um Council of Consideration approved the purchase of 40 pistol of 40 patrol rifles for the city of Stockbridge Police Department from Ed's Public Safety Supply, funding source Opera. Um, Mr. Tremor, Chief Tremor, please. [1:23:49, 1:23:52]: Yes, sir. Again, uh we'd be looking [1:23:52, 1:23:53]: to [1:23:53, 1:23:56]: For council's approval for thirty seven thousand. [1:23:56, 1:24:02]: uh eighty dollars in ARPA funds to purchase patrol rifles for uh the police department. [1:24:02, 1:24:07]: Uh we did follow the procurement process for this purchase. We obtained three competitive bids. [1:24:07, 1:24:12]: And Ed's public safety was the lowest bid for this item. So we would be seeking to [1:24:12, 1:24:16]: Award that uh purchase to as public safety proportion control rival. [1:24:17, 1:24:18]: So moved. [1:24:19, 1:24:20]: Okay, is there a second? [1:24:21, 1:24:23]: Ms. Gantt uh Ms. Gantt second that motion. Any further discussion? [1:24:25, 1:24:27]: If not all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:24:29, 1:24:31]: Okay, as soon as I said, thank you very much. [1:24:34, 1:24:41]: Council consideration approval to appoint members of the stop risk ethics board. Uh Mr. Washington, please. [1:24:46, 1:24:48]: Hi Mary and Council, there were some names that were submitted for [1:24:49, 1:24:55]: uh boards and we prepared the resolution and that's the extent of your involvement with the process. [1:24:57, 1:24:57]: Okay. [1:25:00, 1:25:09]: Better question. Go ahead, sir. I'm sorry. Go ahead, man. Um Mr. Washington, how many people are on the board and with this what what completes the board? [1:25:12, 1:25:14]: That I would need some help on because we [1:25:14, 1:25:15]: We just got [1:25:16, 1:25:17]: The resolution? [1:25:17, 1:25:21]: And I didn't get any, correct me whether I'm wrong, I didn't get any names. [1:25:21, 1:25:22]: For the board. [1:25:24, 1:25:29]: There are there are two names that are in our packets. Not separate. Not separately. They were attached to the packet. [1:25:30, 1:25:30]: Okay. [1:25:32, 1:25:33]: Mayor. [1:25:33, 1:25:38]: Yeah, one question again. Uh let me see. [1:25:38, 1:25:44]: What I'm trying to find out, uh uh Miss Holliday, if you know how many people are on the board. [1:25:44, 1:25:48]: And if and if we don't have enough, how many people we need to complete the board? [1:25:49, 1:25:53]: five member board there are two vacancies there are two applicants [1:25:58, 1:26:00]: Okay, Miss Gann, go ahead, please. [1:26:00, 1:26:03]: Mayor, Miss Holliday, did you give us notice that the [1:26:04, 1:26:08]: That we were looking at board applicants for the ethics board. [1:26:08, 1:26:14]: They're all they've been placed out for quite a while, Councilwoman Gaynott. And [1:26:15, 1:26:16]: We actually [1:26:17, 1:26:19]: Lost the resident, Dr. Flynn. [1:26:19, 1:26:25]: This is to replace that particular member and Mr. Derwin Binion. [1:26:25, 1:26:26]: Had stepped down. [1:26:27, 1:26:33]: What I'm saying is, did you provide notice to Mayor Council that we were looking for additional people for the ethics board? [1:26:34, 1:26:37]: Because I for the ethics board and other boards. [1:26:37, 1:26:41]: I I'm saying I didn't know we were while Mayor, you're aware. [1:26:41, 1:26:45]: because we've had that discussion. It has been out for a while, Councilwoman Gantt. [1:26:45, 1:26:55]: Okay. So if you don't mind just letting us know, hey, we need to appoint new people to the board before you put it back out. I know it's been out for a while. [1:26:55, 1:27:13]: But if you're not recollecting our memory on it, or I don't know that we're putting out applicants, maybe I had a suggestion in mind or something to that nature, we wouldn't have that opportunity to do so. One of the applicants didn't state that they were interested in the ethics board. They just have administration in here or. [1:27:14, 1:27:25]: or there's no particular board in particular that's listed on the application. So my question is, you know, when did these come in? [1:27:25, 1:27:30]: And I don't like and I I mean I don't know the people. I have nothing against anybody, not one thing. [1:27:30, 1:27:47]: But we I wasn't aware that we were gonna put this on the agenda to select some new board members. And I would like to know specifically a gets ahead, get ahead is up, maybe a month in advance, so that if someone wants to apply, I could notify them to apply. [1:27:49, 1:28:09]: Well let me let me say this. So again, okay, go ahead, go ahead, man. There are two people, there are two names in the packet here. And both of the I when I reviewed it, both of them say ethics or involved they want to be on the ethics board. I have to admit I don't think I know either one of them myself as well. Uh but but but the the the app obviously the the the vacancies have been out there in the application process. [1:28:09, 1:28:15]: This has been ongoing in this aspect as well. But uh but Miss Holliday, you have something else you need to add, I suppose. [1:28:17, 1:28:31]: I was gonna say that exactly. Okay, no problem. I see record. I see the two, I see on here type at the top, ethics and one says board of ethics on on A. So you're right about that. [1:28:32, 1:28:42]: Um, so my apologies, but what I don't see and what I did not know is that we were gonna have this on the agenda to select for a board of ethics and that even though they're ongoing. [1:28:42, 1:28:55]: It gives us an opportunity to notify people within the community who've been here. I I don't know them. I don't have a problem with them. But it gives us an opportunity, a heads up on these board appointments. And that hasn't been happening. [1:28:57, 1:28:59]: All right, point well taken. Ms. Barber, you had a comment. [1:29:00, 1:29:02]: I actually asked about the ethics board last year. [1:29:05, 1:29:06]: Um when [1:29:06, 1:29:10]: come forward. So I'm glad that it has come forward now. [1:29:10, 1:29:18]: I don't know these individuals either, but I'd like for us to move forward with appointing them. So I moved to accept these two individuals. [1:29:19, 1:29:27]: I second. All right. Ms. Gantt seconds that all in favor. Any further first any further discussion? If not, all in favor, please indicate. [1:29:29, 1:29:45]: Okay. Okay. So it's a unanimous decision. So congratulations to uh Miss Dallas and uh Miss U Charmaine, I believe it is, in this aspect. So uh uh Miss Holiday, I believe you're gonna take charge and notify them of this appointment. [1:29:48, 1:29:48]: Is that right? [1:29:49, 1:29:52]: Well do, Mayor. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. [1:29:52, 1:30:05]: What we have next would be the added agenda item to deal with the homeless situation and how we can best support that. And I'm going to say, since uh Councilman Alexander brought this up, I'll say that you need to take the lead on this discussion, sir. [1:30:05, 1:30:10]: Well what what I wanted to do was to kinda gauge the council. I think we kinda [1:30:10, 1:30:12]: Said some things uh uh uh uh on the email. [1:30:13, 1:30:16]: But the public needs to know that we're extremely concerned. [1:30:16, 1:30:20]: That uh as we grow as a modern suburban [1:30:20, 1:30:24]: Um city and area that we don't have any. [1:30:25, 1:30:26]: Type of um [1:30:26, 1:30:27]: Warming [1:30:27, 1:30:29]: facilities on cold nights. [1:30:29, 1:30:35]: Uh and then some of the times we think about uh that uh we're talking about the homeless. [1:30:35, 1:30:43]: You'd be surprised how many senior citizens don't have heat in their homes, or they have issues like that that uh go on in the quiet. [1:30:43, 1:30:45]: We need to have some type of facility. [1:30:45, 1:30:48]: uh available as terms of a warming station. [1:30:48, 1:30:50]: I don't have the particular [1:30:51, 1:30:53]: uh so solution for this particular problem. [1:30:54, 1:30:57]: But I want this council to take a bold step in charging the staff. [1:30:58, 1:31:00]: Uh through our consensus or vote. [1:31:00, 1:31:02]: With moving forward on [1:31:02, 1:31:05]: Uh, doing what's necessary to do the research. [1:31:05, 1:31:09]: And then have uh something come back to us rather quickly. [1:31:09, 1:31:11]: Uh, to see what we can do about uh [1:31:11, 1:31:14]: Establishing some type of warming station. [1:31:14, 1:31:19]: Uh Mr. Gardner had uh brought forth some thoughts. I'd like for him to share. [1:31:20, 1:31:30]: uh his thoughts on what he's done at previous stops. Uh and I think those stops did have uh some facilities uh available uh to the public because we we gotta [1:31:31, 1:31:42]: do better when it comes to uh the homeless in this community and those in need because we know we see the tents out in the community. We have people out there starting fires. [1:31:42, 1:31:56]: uh in uh in our woods because they're cold and we need to see what we can do to step up to uh assist in that situation. So I like to call on our city manager to add his thoughts on what we could do to uh mitigate this issue. [1:31:58, 1:32:01]: Thank you, uh Councilmember Alexander. And yes, and and [1:32:02, 1:32:04]: In my last job, we we actually [1:32:05, 1:32:17]: Um because we have a fire department, we utilize the fire stations as warming stations. Um, the three fire stations that we have in the city, uh had in the city of East Point. Um, but we also go a step further. [1:32:17, 1:32:26]: Uh, we went a step further with the use of our opera funds. We looked at how do we provide um that continuum of care. [1:32:27, 1:32:32]: working with um our nonprofit entities to provide um shelter. [1:32:32, 1:32:43]: um for the homeless. Um I think Councilmember Blount hit it on the head that a lot of those folks who who are homeless are experiencing mental health issues. [1:32:43, 1:32:45]: And that's a component as well. [1:32:45, 1:32:59]: Um and so when we talked about it and as mentioned in the email was you know we we do have the use of of of a fire station that's close by, but also we can look at any potential um city building that that is vacant. [1:33:00, 1:33:06]: um as a potential warming center, um, especially if it is served through um heat and air. [1:33:06, 1:33:12]: that that's something we can do, but we can also partner with that entity to provide the staffing necessary to [1:33:13, 1:33:24]: to look over those folks whilst they're in IKEA because obviously that becomes a liability issue. Um if they're just staying there and something happens that as you know everybody likes to sue. [1:33:24, 1:33:31]: And and unfortunate you could get sued. Um and I think our attorneys could speak to that. But that's something that we looked at. [1:33:32, 1:33:46]: um in the city, but from a continuum of care looking at all of those areas um that address uh homelessness. So from the fact that they don't have shelter to the fact that they might have mental capacities. Um and also what you find too [1:33:46, 1:33:49]: Um the majority of them are usually single women with kids. [1:33:49, 1:34:09]: That's another area too, um, and being able to provide shelter for for those folks. Um, and it takes work, it's take partnerships, working um beyond what our city is charged to do to provide those services to to folks who reside in our city. Um and as I mentioned, that's a discussion I think we need to have with the county and with some of our nonprofit. [1:34:09, 1:34:16]: um entities uh in henry county to assist us with that. And that's something we'll do um once charged by by council. [1:34:18, 1:34:32]: No, appreciate that'cause uh actually, uh Mr. Gardner, some of those uh same items are things I'm concerned about, all the logistical type of support. When you're talking about warming centers, you're also talking if you're talking about twelve hours, eighteen hours, whatever the case might be, you're talking about to me. [1:34:32, 1:34:43]: uh cots or some type of bedding. You have to have some type of latrines, food, uh and mental health, uh mental health individuals or medical care on site just to make sure. [1:34:43, 1:35:03]: in this aspect as well. And um and then of course you gotta transport people. You may have to move fo folks from point A to point B to get from one location to get to one set, whether it's a tent location, one area or a stability. So you gotta look at the the movement of folks and uh as well, along with you not any type of liability that that you may be faced with, but it's a coordinated effort. It's gonna involve [1:35:03, 1:35:20]: involve a lot of different agencies and public safety as well in this whole aspect uh to make this work. So it's it's a it's a good idea, something we need to do, but it's gonna take an effort to coordinate all this and and try to and try to see what we can do and make a positive impact in the community. And that's my two cents at this point. Any other comments, please? [1:35:23, 1:35:26]: Any other comments? Well, I'd like to hear from the rest of the council. [1:35:26, 1:35:46]: to kind of chime in on this because I think what Mr. Gardner has asked for is that we uh give him a directive to actually go and do the research so that he can bring it back to us uh in that aspect. So do we have uh support for that uh to charge the city manager with moving forward to gather the information. [1:35:46, 1:35:54]: And bring it back to us. I understand that uh Connecting Henry has a cooperative meeting on the fifteenth. Not sure if we want to [1:35:55, 1:35:56]: Whatever we can do. [1:35:56, 1:35:58]: He'll bring it back to us, uh [1:35:58, 1:36:00]: At his at the earliest. [1:36:00, 1:36:06]: 'Cause every day makes a difference. So if we even if we have to call a special call meeting or whatever we gotta do. [1:36:06, 1:36:12]: uh once the information is gathered because time is of the essence. Uh we j I just want to hear from the rest of you all. [1:36:12, 1:36:18]: because we need to move forward with the motion and and I don't want to make the motion without the consensus of the group. [1:36:18, 1:36:20]: Oh, Mayor and [1:36:21, 1:36:23]: Stand by Ms. Gantt. Mm Mr Blount, go ahead, please. [1:36:24, 1:36:30]: Well, I think that we all were saying that we would like to move forward because I think we all believe that. [1:36:30, 1:36:34]: Anytime there's more of a hands on approach to any citizen [1:36:35, 1:36:49]: Uh, hands-on approach to any citizen's needs is the greatest uh approach of all. You know, and so we're all in agreement with this. And and I thank you, Mr. Gardner, for uh moving forward with getting the uh [1:36:49, 1:36:51]: much needed people uh [1:36:51, 1:36:56]: together to actually let us know how to make this work, how to sustain it. [1:36:57, 1:37:01]: Because if if it's a if it's just overnight stay then it becomes too political. [1:37:01, 1:37:20]: But if it's something that's has sustainability that can ru truly help. And I think everybody hearts is in the right place to want to help every citizen uh here in the city. So I'm I'm on board with that. Uh just bringing the people together to let us know how it needs to work, how it can work, and how we can keep everybody safe that's making it work. All of these components need to be uh [1:37:21, 1:37:23]: All these uh uh questions need to be answered. [1:37:24, 1:37:25]: So thank you, sir. [1:37:25, 1:37:27]: Ms. Kent, go ahead, please. [1:37:28, 1:37:36]: I think it's a wonderful idea. Um I think it's something needed in the entire county, um something that's been discussed throughout the community. [1:37:36, 1:37:54]: Um and we've discussed it over and over again, community-wide, Henry Countywide. Um so if it's something that we can do and make an effort towards even with the getting the county on board and and just reading some of the emails, um, I think it would be a great idea. And so I 100% support it. [1:37:56, 1:37:58]: Any other comments from the council? [1:37:59, 1:38:00]: Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. [1:38:00, 1:38:05]: Mayor Ford, I I support um the city manager doing the research and [1:38:05, 1:38:07]: Uh bringing the information back to the council. [1:38:08, 1:38:09]: All right. Fantastic. [1:38:10, 1:38:11]: Anything else? [1:38:12, 1:38:19]: Okay. And from the from the attorneys, do we need a do we need a vote or this consensus is good enough or do we need to vote on? [1:38:25, 1:38:27]: Understood that there's a specific action and [1:38:28, 1:38:32]: And what's your thoughts on this, Mr. As long as Mr. Gardner's clear, you clear Mr. Gardner on the direction we need to go? [1:38:33, 1:38:33]: Yes, sir. [1:38:34, 1:38:37]: Well, as long as it's clear as consensus. [1:38:37, 1:38:40]: Then we don't need anything unless you feel like you need a resolution. [1:38:40, 1:38:41]: Okay. [1:38:42, 1:38:53]: No, as long as everybody's on the same page and we agree, so uh we understand what the uh the issue is, Mr. Gardner will gather the information and we bring it back to us as earliest convenience to [1:38:53, 1:38:57]: uh move something forward, uh whether in partnership with the county [1:38:57, 1:39:05]: or other nonprofit entities so that we can uh move forward with mitigating this uh warming center issue in the community. [1:39:07, 1:39:13]: And and if I and if I can, um we'll be looking at probably a MOU and we'll push that by legal. [1:39:13, 1:39:19]: Um to make sure we cover all the parameters. So when when we do bring it forward you guys will have hopefully have some [1:39:19, 1:39:21]: Some actionable items to to vote on. [1:39:21, 1:39:22]: Okay. [1:39:22, 1:39:24]: Okay, fantastic. [1:39:24, 1:39:31]: All right, on that note, um my comments and I would like to start my comments off with a proclamation for National Human Trafficking Awareness Month. [1:39:32, 1:39:40]: Whereas human trafficking is a nationwide public health and civil rights crisis, its victims and survivors are everywhere, with Starberry's being no exception. [1:39:41, 1:40:01]: Whereas human trafficking includes both labor and sex trafficking with both international and domestic victims. Whereas anyone can become a victim of trafficking, while women and girls are primary victims, victim survivors come from every background, race, gender, sexual orientation, economic status. Traffickers target individuals. [1:40:00, 1:40:13]: those who for any reason are vulnerable. And whereas these whereas young people are particularly vulnerable to trafficking and exploitation, but face many barriers in reporting what has happened to them. [1:40:13, 1:40:33]: Whereas all communities must seek to prevent human trafficking before it can occur, by promoting safe, healthy, and supportive environments. And whereas the city of Stockbridge is striving to become a place where human trafficking does not exist by providing forums, workshops, information, and to educate our citizens. Now, therefore, I, Anthony Sforber, [1:40:33, 1:40:53]: Virtual authority vested in me as the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. And on behalf of City Council members Elton, Alexander, Lana, Barber, John Blount, Lakeisha Gantt, Afonso Thomas, to hereby declare January as human trafficking awareness and prevention month. In witness thereof, I have hereunto set my hand on the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the 25th day. [1:40:53, 1:41:00]: Of January of this year of our Lord 2022, and I signed the proclamation along with our clerk Vanessa Holiday. [1:41:00, 1:41:01]: Okay. [1:41:02, 1:41:22]: What I also want to mention, of course, we're still in the midst of a pandemic. Um now always the things are hopefully getting better for us all. So what's the key to this, of course, is uh vaccinations and boosters. And uh and uh if you're 16 and age, 16 aging up, uh you can get a booster free of charge. Testing the vaccine. [1:41:22, 1:41:42]: Vaccinations and booster shots are available. Public Health Department is located in Madonna at 135 Henry Parkway, 470-661-0005. Call and set up an appointment for that. And they deal with Mederma and Pfizer shots and boosters there as well. And then of course, uh COVID-19 testing. [1:41:42, 1:42:02]: free of charge Monday to Friday, 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. at Red Hawk Field, located at 143 Henry Parkway in Madonna, right down the street from the public health department in that aspect. So you can go do that as well and get and get tested. And of course, if you haven't heard uh there many of us have already signed up to receive uh our free four free testing [1:42:02, 1:42:22]: um kits and that was out uh and actually I forgot what the actual the actual number the email address for that but uh hopefully it's very available it's out there in the public venue in the social media aspect where you can get free um testing kits. You can order them to in every four four goals to every household every household in this aspect. So um [1:42:23, 1:42:43]: Uh the concern is that you can cross over Mederma and Pfizer for boosters only. You can actually do that. Mederma and Pfizer boosters, you can actually cross it. So if you had a Mederma shot, you can take a Pfizer booster. If you had a Pfizer shot, you can take a Mederma booster. So you can actually C C's you can cross over in that aspect. But once you start [1:42:43, 1:42:53]: start a a particular uh phase of of um of the actual shots, whether it's Madurma Pfizer, you gotta finish that particular, that particular series of the shots there itself. [1:42:53, 1:43:13]: If you're five years old or older, if you got young kids, uh you can take the vaccination is authorized by CDC and considered safe from a derma and pfizer as well. Five to fifteen, uh you can take the shot, but you can't take the the actual uh booster until you turn 16. And make sure you make sure you check with your doctors and physicians. [1:43:13, 1:43:33]: before you take the shots make sure everything is all right in this aspect and uh district for public health we need additional information which is uh located in the grange that is 800-847-4262 district for public health which is part of the our part of where we're located here in the Henry County that is 800 847 4262 if you need additional information [1:43:33, 1:43:53]: information on that note. Okay. New council meetings 5:30, second Wednesday of each month. The Levi Meeting Room, City Hall, and 9 February is our next meeting. Main Street Advisory Board meeting second Friday of each month, 9 a.m. by way of Zoom on February 11th. City Council meeting second Monday of each month, 6 p.m. [1:43:53, 1:44:03]: And to be determined on February fourteenth. Well, we actually we're gonna be virtual, I'm pretty sure on the fourteenth of February, um, and that aspect, which is Valentine's Day, by the way, as well. [1:44:03, 1:44:23]: Uh so downtown the authority meeting, 6 p.m. Uh by way of Zoom, third Tuesday of each month is February 15th. U Council Advisory Committee meeting 6:30, second Tuesday of each month. Patrick Henry Meeting Room, City Hall, February 15th. Our next City Council work session, last Tuesday of each month, by way of Zoom, February 22nd. [1:44:23, 1:44:43]: Planning Commission meeting at 6:30 by way of Zoom, fourth Thursday of each month, February 24th. And upcoming city initiatives, we got Councilman Alexander is planning to have a virtual town hall meeting February 24th to 7 p.m. There's a continual, continued aspect to salute the veterans. Please forward your pictures of the veterans, including names. [1:44:43, 1:45:03]: Ranked branch years of service to count well marriage for Tim Thomas. Uh as you continue, want to make sure we we have a special tribute to our local veterans. And so submit the pictures to Z Pearson at city of Stockbridge-Ga dot G-O-V. And thank you for your service, veterans. And we have to meet the mayor. Next one will [1:45:03, 1:45:12]: be Monday, February 28th, 10 a.m. to 12 noon. Call in to Vozov uh Zenovia Pearson to schedule appointment at 770-389-7900. [1:45:13, 1:45:16]: Extension two four one to have a one-on-one conversation with me. [1:45:16, 1:45:31]: And Mayor Pro Tem Thomas invites you to attend the 11th annual African American Heritage Celebration to be determined when that will be. It'd be a virtual event, but we'll have to nail down the actual date for that and that aspect. And that's all the Mayor Pro Tem Thomas, you have something, sir. [1:45:31, 1:45:42]: I just want to announce that the uh 11th annual African American Heritage Celebration will be virtual February the 26th. [1:45:42, 1:45:43]: Four PM [1:45:44, 1:45:47]: Uh the honorable um [1:45:47, 1:45:51]: Dr. TJ McBride will bring the keynote. [1:45:52, 1:46:05]: Fantastic. There you go, ladies and gentlemen. Fantastic. Okay. On that note, assume that that's all the actual announcements and the city initiatives there. Council, I need a motion to go to the executive session, please. [1:46:06, 1:46:07]: Definitely. [1:46:07, 1:46:08]: Yeah, yes, ma'am. [1:46:08, 1:46:13]: that we go into executive session for personnel litigation and real estate matters. [1:46:14, 1:46:15]: Thank you. Is there a second? [1:46:15, 1:46:16]: A second. [1:46:16, 1:46:20]: Mr. Can't seconds that okay, ladies and gentlemen, see you in exactly the session. [1:46:20, 1:46:27]: In this aspect gives us about 10 minutes. Uh Ms. Holliday, please send everybody our the appropriate uh connection so we can get in zego session. Take a vote, Mayor. [1:46:28, 1:46:38]: I'm sorry. I'm going too fast. All in favor of going second session, please indicate. Okay. I'll say announced decision. Thank you. Keep me straight. Moving too fast. All right. See y'all in a few minutes, sir. Thank you. [1:47:11, 1:47:15]: All right. Okay. What it is, I I got you on the line now. [1:47:16, 1:47:30]: Ladies and gentlemen, I've I got uh I imagine uh uh my attorneys, I hope we I can do this right. What it is somehow uh John Blount cannot get back in to our regular session, so he's he's he called me, he's on my phone. [1:47:30, 1:47:33]: And so I just want to know, can we do it this way legally? [1:47:33, 1:47:41]: Okay. All right. So wait, we got a corner. So otherwise I'll need a motion to to um to end our executive session. So move. [1:47:42, 1:47:48]: Okay, I uh uh I gave to Alexander Mr. Blount uh he seconded that. Mr. Blount second all in favor, please indicate. [1:47:50, 1:47:52]: Okay. Uh all right. [1:47:53, 1:47:58]: You know what? I just thought about something here. Geez. Uh one second. Alexander Blount. [1:48:01, 1:48:16]: Our clerk is not back in here. I just realized uh it uh I've got to take notes on this. Attorneys, please help me with these aspects. The clerk's not back. Um I'm gonna make sure we do this right. Is that right? So I need a motion to reconvene our uh city uh our city work session. So yes. [1:48:17, 1:48:19]: So move for Alexander. [1:48:19, 1:48:24]: Second. Okay, Gantt, second that. And then uh Mr. Watson, you said yes. [1:48:25, 1:48:26]: So transform against. [1:48:27, 1:48:35]: Councilman Gantt second ended. That's correct. Okay, good deal. On that note, we have nothing to to re report from the executive session, so I need a motion to end our meeting. [1:48:36, 1:48:37]: Motion to adjourn. [1:48:37, 1:48:39]: Okay, okay. [1:48:39, 1:48:41]: Okay, one second. I got uh I got Blount. [1:48:42, 1:48:43]: And um and I actually [1:48:44, 1:48:45]: Got Gantt here, okay? [1:48:47, 1:48:48]: All right. All in favor, please indicate. [1:48:49, 1:48:50]: Uh [1:48:50, 1:48:57]: All right. Okay. See I got four votes. Uh five votes, I guess. Okay, take care. Bye bye. Unanimous decision. Good night.

--- title: Planning Commission Meeting date: 2022-01-20 source: 2022-01-20_Planning_Commission_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:04, 0:00:05]: [ 58.3, 60.4]: Mr. Dumas, how are you this evening? [0:01:01, 0:01:03]: I'm doing well, sir. How are you? [0:01:04, 0:01:05]: Same in here. [0:01:05, 0:01:06]: Good. [0:01:06, 0:01:08]: Good. I'm glad you can hear me. [0:01:10, 0:01:15]: I wasn't sure. I'm working on my cell phone tonight because my computer's giving me problems. [0:01:15, 0:01:16]: Uh oh. [0:01:16, 0:01:19]: I wasn't sure if you all could hear me or not, but I'm glad you can. [0:01:20, 0:01:21]: Yes, sir. [0:01:21, 0:01:23]: Happy New Year to you. [0:01:23, 0:01:24]: Happy New Year, everybody. [0:01:26, 0:01:27]: Right, but new year. [0:01:33, 0:01:36]: You do know I'm a computer engineer, right? What's wrong with your computer? [0:01:37, 0:01:42]: Well, it's not the computer itself, it's the software that allows my camera [0:01:43, 0:01:45]: on my phone to talk to my computer. [0:01:46, 0:01:50]: So I can see y'all on the on my computer screen rather than on my cell phone screen. [0:01:52, 0:01:57]: I don't have a camera installed in my computer, but I have software that will allow me to use my [0:01:57, 0:01:59]: Inefficient phone, right. [0:01:59, 0:02:00]: Yeah. [0:02:00, 0:02:01]: Okay. Huh. [0:02:03, 0:02:06]: Yeah, ho your phone hooks up via USB to your computer. [0:02:07, 0:02:07]: Yeah. [0:02:10, 0:02:15]: I and I know you've done this, but have you tried unplugging it, waiting thirty seconds and plugging it back in? [0:02:16, 0:02:30]: Well, it's asking me for an upgrade to the software. And I need to I need to do that. And I I can't do that 15 minutes before the meeting starts. Right. So so I'll uh I'll address it when the meeting is over. Yeah, yeah. All right. [0:02:32, 0:02:33]: Good evening, everyone. [0:02:35, 0:02:39]: Good evening. Happy New Year. Can you guys hear me? Okay. I'm on a different computer, so [0:02:40, 0:02:53]: Hopefully you guys can hear me. Yes, we can see you. We can hear you. Wonderful. Well, wonderful to see your faces this new first meeting of the year. Um, lots of cool things happening. Um [0:02:54, 0:02:56]: I think I've we've got everybody on. [0:02:56, 0:02:59]: So Chairman Abdullah. [0:03:26, 0:03:28]: Brecker, you froze on us. Can you repeat that? [0:03:29, 0:03:37]: No, I just said I'm I'm handing it over to you, Mr. Chairman, for the for the agenda for this evening. [0:03:46, 0:03:46]: Uh [0:03:48, 0:03:50]: Am I s am I frozen? Can you guys hear me okay? [0:03:52, 0:03:54]: Hear you loud and clear. [0:03:54, 0:03:55]: Okay. [0:03:55, 0:03:58]: Mr. Abdullah, I think I lost you for a moment there. [0:04:00, 0:04:01]: You can't hear Mr. New. [0:04:08, 0:04:11]: He's muted. [0:04:45, 0:04:58]: Okay. Um if if I know the public is is likely watching, if you guys can bear with us for just a few moments, just see what um because I think I heard you earlier, uh chairman. [0:04:59, 0:05:00]: And then it just it went away. [0:05:07, 0:05:10]: Do you wanna try logging out then logging back in? [0:05:29, 0:05:34]: Okay, if you all would just bear with us while uh Chairman Abdullah laws back in. [0:05:36, 0:05:38]: No, he's having some technical difficulties. [0:05:40, 0:05:40]: Okay. [0:06:07, 0:06:09]: We cannot hear you, sir. [0:06:13, 0:06:16]: Try clicking the up arrow on your mute button. [0:06:16, 0:06:20]: And selecting a different speaker. I'm sorry, a m different microphone. [0:06:22, 0:06:23]: Thank you, Robert. [0:06:29, 0:06:30]: Can you hear me now? [0:06:30, 0:06:32]: Yes, sir. Yes, we can. [0:06:33, 0:06:33]: All right. [0:06:34, 0:06:35]: Thank you, Robert. Save the day. [0:06:36, 0:06:36]: Yeah. [0:06:37, 0:06:40]: I was asking Miss Nelson, wanna give us an invocation? [0:06:42, 0:06:43]: Miss Nelson, can you hear me? [0:06:46, 0:06:50]: Mr. Plashon, can you hear me? Plashon, can you hear me? Yes, I can hear you. [0:06:50, 0:06:52]: All right, we wanna give us an invocation. [0:06:53, 0:06:54]: Yes, sir. [0:06:57, 0:06:58]: Let's bow our heads. [0:06:59, 0:07:04]: Lord, we thank you for bringing us together this evening and we pray that you just lead us and guide us throughout this. [0:07:05, 0:07:06]: Meeting that we can do your will. [0:07:07, 0:07:10]: And we appreciate the fellowship. In Jesus' name we pray, Amen. [0:07:11, 0:07:12]: Amen. [0:07:12, 0:07:13]: Yeah. [0:07:13, 0:07:14]: I fled allegiance. [0:07:15, 0:07:18]: I guess we want to stand up, place our hand over our chest, hard. [0:07:23, 0:07:38]: Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. To the Republic for which you stand one nation, under God, indivisible, the liberty, justice for all. [0:07:39, 0:07:40]: Okay. [0:07:43, 0:07:45]: Uh Miss Logan hasn't shown up yet. [0:07:45, 0:07:46]: So [0:07:47, 0:07:54]: I guess I'll take the roll call. Yes, I'm here. I'm here. Okay. All right. Okay. Well, I had called on you earlier. You didn't respond. [0:07:55, 0:07:56]: I didn't hear anything. [0:07:56, 0:07:58]: Okay. All right, roll call then. [0:07:59, 0:08:00]: Ask you a double. [0:08:00, 0:08:01]: Present. [0:08:01, 0:08:02]: Oh typical. [0:08:05, 0:08:06]: It's [0:08:06, 0:08:08]: Stanley Doom Stanley Dumas. [0:08:09, 0:08:09]: Present. [0:08:11, 0:08:12]: Kathleen Nelson. [0:08:12, 0:08:13]: Present. [0:08:15, 0:08:16]: David Plantain. [0:08:16, 0:08:17]: Present [0:08:18, 0:08:19]: And Rodney Horns. [0:08:20, 0:08:21]: Present. [0:08:22, 0:08:24]: So Mr. Thibodeau is not here at the moment. [0:08:26, 0:08:28]: Okay, maybe he'll maybe he'll join us later. [0:08:28, 0:08:29]: Yeah. [0:08:29, 0:08:31]: Uh we still have a quorum, Mr. Cairn. [0:08:32, 0:08:33]: Thank you, Miss Logan. [0:08:34, 0:08:35]: Boom. [0:08:36, 0:08:39]: Wanna have a motion to adopt the current agenda? [0:08:42, 0:08:44]: I make a motion to adopt the [0:08:44, 0:08:45]: Agenda for this evening. [0:08:46, 0:08:49]: I'll second it. This is Dave Flanchon. I'll second it. [0:08:49, 0:08:53]: All right, it's been moved and seconded. All those in favor, let it be known by the sign of aye. [0:08:54, 0:08:56]: I agree. Those opposed. [0:08:57, 0:09:00]: Hearing none, the ayes have it. The motion is carried. [0:09:01, 0:09:04]: Uh reviewed amendments from December the sixteenth. [0:09:19, 0:09:25]: Unless anybody has any changes, I'd like to make a motion to approve the minutes from our last meeting. [0:09:26, 0:09:26]: A second. [0:09:28, 0:09:29]: Who's second that? [0:09:30, 0:09:35]: Mr. Dumas. Mr. Dumas. All right. It's been moved and seconded. All those in favor, let it be known by the sign of aye. [0:09:36, 0:09:38]: Aye. Uh those opposed? [0:09:39, 0:09:43]: Hearing none, I saved the the agenda from the sixteenth is adopted. [0:09:45, 0:09:46]: Okay. [0:09:47, 0:09:49]: Uh election of officers. [0:09:52, 0:09:54]: Miss Johnson, I guess you oversee that. [0:09:55, 0:09:57]: Right. So for this segment, uh we would [0:09:58, 0:09:59]: Um take a vote. [0:09:59, 0:10:04]: For who the chair and vice chair would be. [0:10:04, 0:10:06]: Okay. So we would just need to have [0:10:07, 0:10:07]: Yeah. [0:10:08, 0:10:09]: For chair. [0:10:09, 0:10:12]: And a vote and then a vote for the vice chair. [0:10:12, 0:10:13]: Okay. [0:10:20, 0:10:22]: Somebody needs to be nominated for chair and vice chair. [0:10:23, 0:10:27]: I guess Mr. Chair, Mr. Vice Chair, let us know if you still want the position. [0:10:29, 0:10:31]: Uh I'm fine with it. I'll take that. [0:10:35, 0:10:36]: We just need a motion on the floor. [0:10:40, 0:10:45]: I make a motion for Mr. Abdullah to continue uh to be the chair of the planning commission. [0:10:50, 0:10:53]: We we need a second. A second. [0:10:54, 0:10:56]: Who is that? Mr. Horns? [0:10:56, 0:10:57]: Yes. [0:10:58, 0:11:01]: Okay. Ms. Johnson, I guess you would take over from there. [0:11:02, 0:11:14]: Perfect. And uh for the vice chair, uh Mr. Thibodeau is currently the vice chair uh from the a few meetings back, so we would need a vote on uh [0:11:19, 0:11:20]: Making emotion. [0:11:20, 0:11:21]: For that position. [0:11:23, 0:11:26]: Make a motion to nominate Mr. Thibodeau for the vice chair. [0:11:31, 0:11:32]: A second. [0:11:35, 0:11:36]: We need a second. [0:11:43, 0:11:44]: We don't have a second. [0:11:46, 0:11:47]: So we need a new nominee. [0:11:50, 0:11:51]: Ms. Johnson? [0:11:53, 0:11:56]: So um you all have the option to [0:11:57, 0:11:59]: Make a motion for anyone on the [0:11:59, 0:12:00]: Board. [0:12:01, 0:12:02]: And [0:12:02, 0:12:03]: We just need a second. [0:12:04, 0:12:05]: I nominate Kathleen Nelson. [0:12:07, 0:12:08]: Okay. [0:12:10, 0:12:11]: A second. [0:12:14, 0:12:14]: Miss Johnson? [0:12:16, 0:12:16]: [738.3, 739.2]: Do we have a vote? [0:12:19, 0:12:22]: I like to make a motion that nominees be closed. [0:12:25, 0:12:30]: Ms. Johnson, uh Mr. Horn, second Mrs. Kathleen Nelson to be vice chair. [0:12:30, 0:12:31]: Mm-hmm. [0:12:31, 0:12:35]: Uh and Mr. Flash on move that we close. I assume that [0:12:36, 0:12:38]: Everybody's in approval for the current administration. [0:12:39, 0:12:44]: Well we have to because because there was a second chairman, we do have to take a vote. [0:12:45, 0:12:52]: All those all those in favor of Kathleen Nelson being the vice chair, let it be known by the sign of I. [0:12:53, 0:12:55]: Aye. Oh those opposed? [0:12:57, 0:13:01]: Hearing none, the eyes have it. Kathleen Nelson is voted in as vice chair. [0:13:01, 0:13:03]: Okay. Great. Congratulations. [0:13:04, 0:13:09]: Excuse me, but I didn't hear a vote for the chairman. I mean there was the nominations, but I didn't hear a vote. [0:13:10, 0:13:12]: So Linda, um [0:13:12, 0:13:16]: Miss Nelson made the vote for Chairman Abdullah to remain. [0:13:16, 0:13:17]: Right. The chair. [0:13:18, 0:13:19]: And Mr. Horns of the Second. [0:13:21, 0:13:23]: But then was there a vote after that? [0:13:23, 0:13:24]: It [0:13:24, 0:13:25]: Uh [0:13:25, 0:13:26]: It was unanimous. [0:13:31, 0:13:33]: Okay, so [0:13:33, 0:13:34]: Okay. Yes, sir. [0:13:34, 0:13:37]: No, I was talking to Miss Uh Logan. [0:13:40, 0:13:47]: That being the case, uh the election of officers is is been closed been approved and closed. [0:13:48, 0:13:50]: Reciting with project updates. [0:13:51, 0:13:52]: Окей, супер. [0:13:52, 0:13:56]: So at the last, uh what say the last meeting at the end of the year? [0:13:57, 0:14:05]: I admit to you all that the Bridges of Dodoco project is moving forward. We have a townhome community. [0:14:05, 0:14:11]: and an apartments and commercial retail mixed use community coming online. They have a [0:14:12, 0:14:17]: or uh their land disturbance permit, which allows them to prep the land in order to start building. [0:14:18, 0:14:22]: And they for for the apartments that are going in, there's gonna be [0:14:23, 0:14:24]: Um [0:14:24, 0:14:43]: a March date uh for the groundbreaking. I'm waiting to get the finalized um um information from the council members to make sure they can be there, but we have tentative a tentative groundbreaking for Friday, March the 11th. [0:14:44, 0:14:45]: Twenty twenty two. [0:14:46, 0:14:49]: So please mark your calendars as for 10 AM. [0:14:50, 0:14:53]: you're able to attend, we would love to have you there. [0:14:53, 0:15:11]: Um again this is a a long project where additional uh commercial types of businesses. We've spoken to some folks, nothing has been solidified yet, but there's quite a bit in the works for uh for this project, right off Jodeco Road and I-75. [0:15:12, 0:15:13]: Any questions at all? [0:15:14, 0:15:15]: Yeah, um [0:15:16, 0:15:18]: I've been watching them with that um [0:15:18, 0:15:26]: doing the groundwork directly across the street, they also have, I guess, an another project coming online. [0:15:26, 0:15:34]: That's right. That's right. That's going to be compatible or comparable with this on the uh north side. Correct. Correct. And [0:15:35, 0:15:55]: Um, our our hope is to once they start moving, it's gonna prompt and and be a catalyst for some commercial development to come into the area as well. So we're talking with other developers. There's a very much a lot of interest in it. Um, and we'll keep you posted on what's going on. [0:15:57, 0:16:06]: Um in another s uh update is I think I mentioned to you last meeting that we were gonna have a new city manager. [0:16:07, 0:16:27]: Right. And our new our new city manager is uh Mr. Frederick Gardner. He comes to us uh years in administrative and planning backgrounds in uh at the city of East Point. Um, Griffin, Henry County. Actually worked with him a little bit in Henry County. [0:16:27, 0:16:37]: and then just in the over the years throughout the region. And he's back with us. This was his first week. So um today is day three for him. [0:16:37, 0:16:40]: And uh we're I just wanted to welcome him. [0:16:41, 0:16:45]: Um and let you guys know that that he's on board. And if you have questions or would like to reach out to him. [0:16:46, 0:16:48]: I will provide you all with. [0:16:48, 0:16:50]: His contact information. [0:16:50, 0:16:51]: So [0:16:51, 0:16:54]: Um if you don't have any questions about that. [0:16:55, 0:16:56]: I don't have anything additional. [0:16:56, 0:17:01]: But um just looking forward to keeping you updated on upcoming projects. [0:17:02, 0:17:08]: All right. Uh I want to confirm that meeting, that groundbreaking 311 22 at 10 a.m. [0:17:09, 0:17:14]: And uh that would be at the corner of uh Jodico and Tunis, I assume. [0:17:14, 0:17:19]: Yes, look uh Jodico and Mount Olive right off of I seventy five. [0:17:21, 0:17:22]: Excuse me, so [0:17:26, 0:17:28]: Madam Director, excuse me. [0:17:30, 0:17:31]: Yes, sir. [0:17:32, 0:17:33]: I'm sorry. Um [0:17:33, 0:17:40]: Will we get a uh an additional notification as we get closer to that date or do we need to record this date tonight? [0:17:40, 0:17:44]: No, we'll we'll send you a an a calendar invite. [0:17:44, 0:17:48]: Very good. Um to add on to your calendar, absolutely. Thank you so much. [0:17:48, 0:17:48]: Sure. [0:17:50, 0:17:51]: Oh. [0:17:52, 0:17:53]: What was the address for that again? [0:17:54, 0:17:57]: Um it's not an address, it's actually just at the corner. [0:17:58, 0:18:02]: of Johtoco. It's it's the the address for the property is three hundred [0:18:02, 0:18:05]: Argento drive. [0:18:06, 0:18:12]: But it is a it's a raw piece of land. So right when you come off of Jodoko Road, if you're leaving from the city. [0:18:13, 0:18:14]: You're gonna make a left. [0:18:14, 0:18:16]: Onto Jellicoe. [0:18:16, 0:18:18]: And it's right, it's before you get to Mount Olive. [0:18:19, 0:18:20]: Excuse me. [0:18:23, 0:18:25]: And once we get I'm sorry? [0:18:25, 0:18:28]: I think the street there cross street there's Tunis. [0:18:28, 0:18:33]: There's Tunis. It's Mount Mount Olive is on one on the other side of it. [0:18:33, 0:18:39]: So yeah, so it's it's a really large property. It's about a hundred and seventy seventy five acres. So [0:18:40, 0:18:45]: Um we are really, really excited about getting this book forward and the council is as well. [0:18:45, 0:18:49]: Um, as this has been a long anticipated project. [0:18:49, 0:18:51]: So the project you're actually speaking of. [0:18:51, 0:18:53]: It's west of seventy five. [0:18:53, 0:18:54]: Yes. [0:18:55, 0:18:57]: Okay. I'm thinking south of Jodeco. [0:18:58, 0:19:06]: The project east of uh 75 on Jodeco at Tunis, which is an apartment complex, they got the science and everything up. [0:19:07, 0:19:18]: What you're talking about is going to be the the multi-development project on the uh west of uh 75. Yes. And it expands both, it crosses Jodicon both sides. [0:19:18, 0:19:24]: Yes. Well mostly mostly on the south side. South side. But yeah, that's part of the north side. All right, gotcha, gotcha. [0:19:25, 0:19:26]: So um [0:19:26, 0:19:28]: And I've been watching Evan as well. [0:19:28, 0:19:29]: Super. [0:19:29, 0:19:30]: Okay. [0:19:31, 0:19:36]: And if we might, Chairman for the record, uh Linda, uh Mr. Thibodeau is on the call. [0:19:37, 0:19:39]: So if you'll count him as as present. [0:19:39, 0:19:42]: Mr. T yes, I noted that. Hello, Mr. T. [0:19:43, 0:19:46]: How you doing? I got kicked out of my computer and I had to uh [0:19:47, 0:19:49]: Oh we got some good We get to see you on camera. [0:19:50, 0:19:51]: We got some video of you. [0:19:52, 0:19:55]: I I I told you I was gonna make it happen for Christmas. [0:19:55, 0:20:04]: Okay, okay, good deal. Good deal. That you did, that you did. But but this thing decided it wanted to reboot itself and everything, and then I had to [0:20:05, 0:20:09]: Re put my password in so I I was like, Okay, just at the last minute. [0:20:11, 0:20:11]: Okay. [0:20:12, 0:20:13]: Well, it's good to see you. [0:20:13, 0:20:16]: Same here, uh Happy New Year. [0:20:16, 0:20:19]: Happy New Year to all. Happy New Year. Happy New Year. [0:20:19, 0:20:20]: Happy New Year. [0:20:24, 0:20:26]: Uh any board comments? [0:20:27, 0:20:29]: Any comments from the board? [0:20:32, 0:20:35]: No comments from the board. Have a motion to adjourn. [0:20:37, 0:20:39]: I make a motion to adjourn the meeting. [0:20:40, 0:20:41]: Give it a second. [0:20:42, 0:20:43]: A second. [0:20:44, 0:21:01]: All right, it's moved and second. Uh motion for adjournment is carried. All those in favor, let it be known by the sign of aye. Aye. Those opposed, ayes have it. Meeting is adjourned until the next scheduled meeting. And I'm sure Ms. Johnson will advise us of that. [0:21:02, 0:21:06]: Absolutely. Absolutely. And we'll send you the information we talked about earlier. [0:21:06, 0:21:08]: Okay. Put on your calendars. [0:21:08, 0:21:09]: All right. [0:21:10, 0:21:11]: Well, good night to all. [0:21:11, 0:21:13]: Thank you so much. Yeah, have a good one. [0:21:14, 0:21:16]: Okay. Bye bye. [0:21:16, 0:21:17]: Right.

--- title: Regular Council Meetings date: 2022-01-10 source: 2022-01-10_Regular_Council_Meetings.wav --- [0:00:02, 0:00:03]: Okay. [0:00:09, 0:00:15]: Two minutes. So what I need to know is I know [0:01:55, 0:01:57]: Reporting in progress. [0:02:04, 0:02:05]: I'll tell you. [0:02:05, 0:02:06]: Okay. [0:02:24, 0:02:26]: Hello everyone. Hello. Good evening. [0:02:27, 0:02:28]: Leave them to you. [0:02:28, 0:02:29]: Yeah, for T. [0:02:31, 0:02:31]: Mayor. [0:03:48, 0:03:49]: Yeah. [0:03:58, 0:03:59]: [240.2, 241.3]: This is [0:04:10, 0:04:10]: Okay. [0:04:18, 0:04:21]: Okay. No, good. [0:04:34, 0:04:35]: Mm-hmm. [0:04:38, 0:04:58]: Hi, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to our first meeting for the city government in Stockbridge, Georgia, January 10th, 2020. And this is primarily a ceremonial meeting this evening. And we have several different uh individuals be sworn in, to include myself, along with several different appointments. [0:04:58, 0:05:18]: Uh that the council has uh done, that we want to make sure that we put folks in and sign them in properly and sign the documents that are over here on this table at this point. So I called the meeting in order and I'd like to call up uh Pastor Terrence Gaddis and give the invocation. Pastor Gaddis is actually the city chaplain. [0:05:18, 0:05:21]: He's also pastor of Mount Olive Baptist Church right here in Southbury. [0:05:26, 0:05:27]: Let us break. [0:05:30, 0:05:31]: How about we? [0:05:32, 0:05:34]: Thank you for this is a day that you have made. [0:05:35, 0:05:38]: Thank you, God, for allowing us to gather once again safely. [0:05:39, 0:05:41]: We thank you for this occasion, God, for [0:05:42, 0:05:46]: those servants who thought it not robbery use their gifts to serve your people. [0:05:47, 0:05:51]: So we pray your blessings upon this mayor's city council. [0:05:52, 0:05:58]: to all of the other administrators of the city, to all of those who are working hard in our community. [0:05:59, 0:06:00]: To make things better. [0:06:01, 0:06:04]: We pray that you would have your way in this. [0:06:04, 0:06:07]: Ceremony God and that you would continue to [0:06:07, 0:06:12]: anoint and use those who are called into service. [0:06:12, 0:06:14]: Continue to do great things. [0:06:14, 0:06:17]: the city of Stockbridge and for our community at large. [0:06:17, 0:06:18]: Thank you and we love you. [0:06:19, 0:06:21]: In the name of our Savior we do pray. [0:06:21, 0:06:30]: Amen. Amen. Thank you, Pastor Gallis. Ladies and gentlemen, if you if you could please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance, flag is right here. [0:06:33, 0:06:36]: But it's there. [0:06:36, 0:06:37]: You know that's where. [0:06:39, 0:06:40]: Yeah. [0:06:42, 0:06:48]: Look at that. Thank you very much. [0:06:50, 0:06:50]: Okay. [0:06:52, 0:06:58]: Judge McFord, please. Judge McFord is our judge from the city of Stockbridge. [0:06:59, 0:07:10]: And he is going to swear in myself, Councilwoman Gantt, and Councilman Thomas, which is online, because Gantt is in the same in the council chambers at this time. [0:07:11, 0:07:15]: All right. Mayor Ford, sir. You will raise your right hand. [0:07:18, 0:07:23]: And repeat after me. I'm sorry, excuse me. I'm so sorry. My dear wife, I'm sorry. I saw you. [0:07:25, 0:07:27]: Come on. [0:07:34, 0:07:54]: Before we start, didn't you have a daughter that went to the University of Alabama? She graduated. She graduated a few years ago, absolutely. I wore my crimson tie. Okay. I appreciate that. All right. Well, raise your right hand and repeat after me. Hi Anthony S. Ford. [0:07:53, 0:08:13]: board do solemnly swear solemnly swear or affirm that I will faithfully perform now faithfully perform the duties of the mayor of the city of Stock Ridge the Mayor of the City of Stockbridge and I will the best of my ability now will to the best of my ability support and defend support and defend charter thereof the charter thereof as well as the constitution as well as the constitution [0:08:13, 0:08:33]: And laws of the state of Georgia and the United States of America. United States of America. I further affirm that upon assumption of this office, I do not hold any unaccounted for public money. Do not hold any unaccounted for public money due and payable to the state. Due and payable to the state and political subdivision of the state. [0:08:33, 0:08:53]: State city of Stockbridge city of Stockbridge or any authority thereof. Nor do I hold any other office. Nor do I hold any other office? Trust of the government of the United States of the United States. Of this state, of this state, or any foreign state, any foreign state as prescribed by the law of the state of Georgia. It's prescribed by the law of the state of Georgia. I solemnly affirm. [0:08:53, 0:09:13]: I solemnly affirm that I'm fully qualified. Fully qualified the constitution and laws of the state. The constitutional laws of the state. The whole office of mayor. I have been a resident. I have been a resident. City of Stock Ring for the entire period of time. For entire period of time. Acquired by the Constitution and laws of the state of Georgia. [0:09:13, 0:09:32]: I will perform the duties of my office. I will perform the duties of my office in the best interest of the city of Stockbridge. The best interest of the city of Stockbridge. Best of my ability. Without fear. Without fear. Favor. Favor. Affection. Affection. Reward. Reward. Or expectation therefore. Or expectation thereof. Congratulations. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Yes, sir. [0:09:40, 0:09:51]: I would um you can tell we've done that before if you guys can I take a few minutes for a second. Yeah, you go right ahead. Okay. Ladies and gentlemen, I'll take a few minutes here. First of all, I want to let me get here. I want to thank [0:09:52, 0:10:12]: All the supporters of the campaign, but I want to thank citizens topic for giving me four more years. I really appreciate that and I plan to honor that and do the best of my ability along with the council to provide for you the services and things that you need, the things that you need to for you to live uh comfortably and live in this particular environment. [0:10:12, 0:10:32]: That's part of our task in this aspect. And so even individuals that uh may not have voted or may not even voted for me, it doesn't make a difference. I'm still the mayor of the city and I still represent you. And I want to be able to do what I can for you. I live here as well. So if I do good for you, I do good for myself as well. Once again, along with the the uh along with listening to [0:10:32, 0:10:52]: You have that listening area along with the actual council as well. Um, you know, what I want to want to say is that we have this great amphitheater uh that we we actually executed, it's been built by H.J. Russell and Company. That's just part of the phase one of Louisville City's initiative to bring the downtown area to fruition. Uh so one of the things I want [0:10:52, 0:11:12]: want you know is that we still got to work through the uh through the quiet zone help build up our downtown area. I want to continue to do that and work through that process. Want to also we have a cultural art center that we uh we built in a little more than a year from now, right? Roughly less than a quarter mile from this location itself. So we're looking to do that. [0:11:11, 0:11:31]: One of the great things we started to do, and you know about this, as well as gonna implement it in the middle of the summer as our police department. I have Chief Tremor and his and their staff right here with us now, this aspect in the council chamber. So that's a great thing for the city stop bridge. We've got a great chief, great staff for this. You'll see how public service will improve itself as we focus in on the citizens of Stoppridge. [0:11:31, 0:11:46]: itself. So you've got to be happy about that and you'll see the results on the results of having our own police department here in the city as well. And then don't forget about the fact that my mic reminds me all the time, what do we do about Bridges and Jodeco? It's still there. We're going to work and develop that. [0:11:47, 0:12:07]: Got four years, four years time to make all these things happen. And I'll tell you another good thing that you did last November is that you voted T Sploss in. All right. So that means we're going to get close to roughly over a five-year period, close to$30 million for the infrastructure of stock bridge itself, pathways, connecting neighborhoods, connecting neighborhoods to the downtown area. [0:12:07, 0:12:27]: Area, make it walkable, connecting the amphitheater to the downtown area itself, improving the bridge right here, Martin Luther King Senior Bridge right here, improving whether you have a pathway to go across safely in this aspect. Street infrastructure, connecting uh connecting neighborhoods, Rock Boy Road expansion, Eagles Land Parkway expansion, and to work. [0:12:27, 0:12:47]: that process as well. Those are all part of the transportation T-SPLOST that you pass and that it's a good thing not for the city but also for the actual county itself as well. And so it's going to be great for the infrastructure and roads and uh the certain areas of stock bridge will eventually get curves, gutter, crosswide, crosswalks. [0:12:47, 0:13:07]: So you can walk safely and move about bike paths and things of this nature. It's coming, folks. Four years. You gain four years, I plan to make those four years work for you along with the council to make sure we do all the proper things. You saw my wife, a dear wife was here with me, of course. She deals with me every day, day in and day out. And that's I'll sell you. So she's your first lady to stop. [0:13:06, 0:13:26]: Our daughter was here four years ago. She's uh no longer with empty nuts her, so she should be online uh watching this particular broadcast. And my mother uh is with my younger sister and we're roswell, they should be online as well. So thank you, mom, sis, Ariana. Love you all, this aspect for sort of tuning in. Um, ladies and gentlemen, if you didn't know [0:13:26, 0:13:46]: Four years ago when I got sworn in, I had my father here with me. Unfortunately, two little two years ago, he passed away at age 95. I still miss him. And a sad, I still think about him and life's lessons that he gave me as a young child growing up in St. Louis, Missouri. I will tell you though, uh, as I I mentioned, uh, what I'm gonna say next, I mentioned at his his funeral, is that uh [0:13:46, 0:14:06]: But I mean my father had a thing going on whereas that we're always being competitive, even though he's my dad, right? So I will tell you this: he passed away in 95. My thing is I'm not gonna leave this earth until I'm 96. So I got a long way to go. I gotta be my dad at that process, right? So ladies and gentlemen, I'm gonna be around for a while. I turned 65 in April, so I'll be around for a while. I just want you to [0:14:06, 0:14:26]: Know that. All right. One other thing I gotta mention. Now, this what I'm gonna say to you next is this this goal to show you how small the world is. Like we have like six degrees of separation. I just mentioned to you I'm from St. Louis, Missouri. I'm also, if you didn't know, I'm also a retired army officer, retired almost 12 years ago. But before I became on active duty in the army, I was actually an army reserve. [0:14:26, 0:14:46]: Believe it or not, ladies and gentlemen, I have my mentor, my last company commander's Army Reserve, but I came off full-time activity here with me tonight. My mentor, Al Greer is his name, retired major. And you know, the thing about it is, we did not connect again roughly, I think, three, four months or so ago. [0:14:46, 0:15:06]: We happen to be together, the VFW fundraiser, a f a fundraiser on barbecue plates. And just God will have it that I got there before he left or vice versa, you know what I mean? So what it is, we just happen to meet. And he said he recognized my voice and my eyes. I had a mask on. So that means I can't do anything wrong because everybody remembers it. Hey. [0:15:06, 0:15:09]: That's the bear over there. You can't get away with anything, right? [0:15:10, 0:15:14]: My point to you is that Al, could could you come in, please, Al, could you come on? [0:15:14, 0:15:34]: I want you folks to see my mentor when I was a young, young lieutenant, and it's been a good folks 40 years since we met up again. And just what happens that his daughter, his kids are in the area, Kim is his daughter, is an AKA, just like my wife, and uh they they know each other, and just really wild how this came about. But ladies and gentlemen, this is Al Greer. [0:15:34, 0:15:43]: mentor when I was a young lieutenant, about 26, 27 years old. And so thank you all for being here. And God got put us together again. God bless you, man. [0:15:50, 0:16:02]: I'm going to tell you on that note, I'm going to be quiet. Okay. And we got a lot of things to do tonight in this aspect. And judge, I'm going to move aside and let you continue on swearing up. Thank you, sir. Thank you, folks. [0:16:17, 0:16:18]: All right. [0:16:19, 0:16:23]: So that way that's the one thing you can think. [0:16:25, 0:16:30]: Who we got with us? I have my two daughters. This is Kylie and Katie. [0:16:31, 0:16:50]: I'm so glad y'all are here. All right, you ready? You'll raise your right hand and repeat after me. I will teach again. I will teach again. Do solemnly swear or affirm. Be solemnly swear and affirm. That I will faithfully perform the duties. That I will faithfully perform the duties. A council member of the city of Stockbridge. [0:16:51, 0:17:11]: of council member of the city of Stockbridge and that I will to the best of my ability and that I will to the best of my ability support and defend support and defend charter thereof the charter thereof as well as the constitution as well as the constitution and laws of the state of georgia and laws of the state of georg and the united states of america and [0:17:11, 0:17:12]: The United States America. [0:17:12, 0:17:21]: I further affirm I further affirm that upon assumption of this office that upon assumption of this office I do not hold any unaccounted for public money. [0:17:21, 0:17:41]: I do not hold any unaccountable public money. Due and payable to the state. Due and payable to the state. Any political subdivision of the state. Any political subdivision of the state. The city of Stockbridge. The city of Stockbridge. Or any authority thereof. Or any authority thereof. Nor do I hold any other office of trust. [0:17:41, 0:17:55]: Of the government of the United States. Of the government of the United States. Of this state. Of this state. Any foreign state. Or any foreign state. As prescribed by the law of the state of Georgia. As prescribed by the law of the state of Georgia. [0:17:55, 0:18:04]: I solemnly affirmly affirm that I'm fully qualified. That I fully qualified. Under the constitution and the laws of the state. [0:18:04, 0:18:22]: under the constitution and the laws of the state to hold the office of council member to hold the office of council member that i have been a resident of the city of stockbridge and that i have been a resident of the city of stockbridge for the entire period of time for the entire period of time required by the constitution and laws of the state of georgia [0:18:22, 0:18:25]: Required by the Constitution and Laws of the State of George. [0:18:25, 0:18:44]: I will perform the duties of my office. I will perform the duties of my office in the best interest of the city of Stockbridge. In the best interest of the city of Stockbridge to the best of my ability. To the best of my ability. Without fear. Without fear. Favor. Favor. Affection. Affection. Reward. Reward. Or expectation thereof. Or expectation thereof. [0:18:45, 0:18:46]: Right there. [0:18:54, 0:19:14]: So I um I'm gonna be real brief. I told me to come over a little bit, mask, but okay. Um real brief, my daughters have both been with me since day one. Kylie was born into politics as I became a council woman. [0:19:13, 0:19:27]: Um my I was while I was qualified, I couldn't even walk to qualify. I just they rolled me up in here and um she's been on city council, city hall is all she knows. [0:19:27, 0:19:30]: So she ru runs the holes. [0:19:30, 0:19:34]: You know, have had an opportunity to see how to serve the community. [0:19:34, 0:19:46]: as well as Hayden. I think she was probably in kindergarten. And so it's been a blessing and I want to personally let these girls know that I love them so much. [0:19:46, 0:19:49]: And I thank them for allowing me to serve. [0:19:49, 0:19:51]: Here in the city is not. [0:19:52, 0:19:54]: Um because it's a sacrifice for me. [0:19:55, 0:19:56]: Then for my [0:19:57, 0:19:59]: And to be able to do this. [0:19:59, 0:20:03]: Um I also like to thank the citizens of Statbridge. [0:20:03, 0:20:12]: for believing in me, for trusting me to make the right decisions and to represent each and every one of you, all 28,000. [0:20:13, 0:20:14]: Tá de bravo. [0:20:14, 0:20:16]: To the best of my ability. [0:20:16, 0:20:19]: I believe and I've always said [0:20:20, 0:20:20]: Bad. [0:20:20, 0:20:26]: We should always do what's in the best interest of suffrage. [0:20:26, 0:20:28]: Not within the best interest of myself. [0:20:29, 0:20:32]: Not what's in the best interest of one individual. [0:20:32, 0:20:34]: or one group or entity. [0:20:35, 0:20:37]: The best interest of software. [0:20:38, 0:20:41]: To my colleagues, I look forward to working with each. [0:20:42, 0:20:43]: And every one of you. [0:20:44, 0:20:50]: We may not always get along. We may not always agree on the same decisions. [0:20:50, 0:20:53]: But we have continued even during this candidate. [0:20:53, 0:20:55]: To move the city forward. [0:20:56, 0:20:58]: For the benefit of our citizens. [0:20:59, 0:21:01]: For the benefit of our county. [0:21:02, 0:21:05]: And so I thank each and every one of you for your service. [0:21:06, 0:21:10]: And I look forward to working with each and every one of you. [0:21:10, 0:21:14]: I always say there's only six of us, there are 30,000 of you. [0:21:14, 0:21:16]: My door is always open. [0:21:18, 0:21:24]: Also, I'd like to give a special thanks today to my parents who are here. Raise your hand mom and dad. [0:21:24, 0:21:26]: Money. [0:21:30, 0:21:35]: I have um my business partner and a close friend of mine, Devlin Cleveland, raise your hand. [0:21:36, 0:21:37]: Yeah. [0:21:39, 0:21:40]: Дікро. [0:21:40, 0:21:48]: to each independent area, which is already open to Scottish Youth Council. But just I just want to say that I'm so grateful. [0:21:49, 0:21:51]: And so we list and [0:21:52, 0:21:55]: Um I plan on showing my children, my daughters. [0:21:56, 0:22:02]: that service although monetary-wise it may not get its very minimal. [0:22:02, 0:22:05]: To be able to serve is such [0:22:05, 0:22:06]: A blessing. [0:22:06, 0:22:11]: It's a blessing beyond many. And I look forward to the next four years. Thank you. [0:22:21, 0:22:25]: All right. Councilman Thomas, are you there? Yes, I am. [0:22:26, 0:22:27]: All right, sir. [0:22:28, 0:22:37]: If you will raise your right hand and repeat after me. I Alfonso Thomas. I Alfonso Thomas. [0:22:37, 0:22:39]: Who solemnly swear or affirmation [0:22:39, 0:22:41]: Do solemnly swear and affirm. [0:22:42, 0:22:44]: That I will faithfully perform. [0:22:45, 0:22:47]: That I will faithfully perform. [0:22:48, 0:22:51]: Duties of council member of the city of Stockbridge. [0:22:51, 0:22:55]: The duties of council member of the city of Stockbridge. [0:22:56, 0:22:58]: And that I will to the best of my ability. [0:22:59, 0:23:02]: And that I will to the best of my ability. [0:23:02, 0:23:05]: Support and defend the charter thereof. [0:23:05, 0:23:08]: Support and defend the charter thereof. [0:23:09, 0:23:11]: as well as the constitution. [0:23:12, 0:23:13]: As well as the constitution. [0:23:14, 0:23:16]: Laws of the state of Georgia. [0:23:16, 0:23:19]: And the laws of the state of Georgia. [0:23:19, 0:23:20]: And the United States of America. [0:23:21, 0:23:23]: And the United States of America. [0:23:24, 0:23:25]: A further affirm. [0:23:25, 0:23:27]: I further affirm [0:23:27, 0:23:29]: And upon assumption of this office. [0:23:30, 0:23:36]: That upon the assumption of this office, I do not hold any unaccounted for public money. [0:23:36, 0:23:41]: I do not hold any accounted for public money. [0:23:41, 0:23:43]: Due and payable to the state. [0:23:44, 0:23:45]: due and payable to the state. [0:23:46, 0:23:48]: Any political subdivision of the state. [0:23:49, 0:23:52]: And any political subdivision of the state. [0:23:52, 0:23:59]: The city of Stockbridge. The city of Stockbridge. Or any authority thereof. Of any authority thereof. [0:23:59, 0:24:02]: Nor do I hold any other office of trust. [0:24:02, 0:24:06]: Nor do I hold any other office of trust. [0:24:06, 0:24:08]: Of the government of the United States. [0:24:08, 0:24:12]: Of the government of the United States of this state. [0:24:12, 0:24:13]: Of this state. [0:24:14, 0:24:15]: Or any foreign state. [0:24:16, 0:24:17]: Or any foreign state. [0:24:17, 0:24:20]: As prescribed by the law of the state of Georgia. [0:24:21, 0:24:24]: As prescribed by the law of the state of Georgia [0:24:25, 0:24:26]: I solemnly affirm that [0:24:26, 0:24:35]: I solemnly affirm that I'm fully qualified. That I am fully qualified. Under the Constitution and laws of the state. [0:24:37, 0:24:40]: Under the Constitution and the laws of the state. [0:24:40, 0:24:42]: To hold the office of council member. [0:24:42, 0:24:48]: To hold the office of council member. And then I have been a resident of the city of Stockbridge. [0:24:48, 0:24:52]: And that I have been a resident of the city of Stockbridge. [0:24:52, 0:24:54]: For the entire period of time. [0:24:55, 0:24:57]: For the entire period of time. [0:24:57, 0:25:00]: Required by the constitution and laws of the state of Georgia. [0:25:00, 0:25:04]: required by the constitution and the laws of the state of Georgia. [0:25:05, 0:25:07]: I will perform the duties of my office and [0:25:07, 0:25:13]: I will perform the duties of my office in the best interest of the city of Stockbridge. [0:25:13, 0:25:18]: In the best interest of the city of Stockbridge to the best of my ability. [0:25:19, 0:25:20]: To the best of my ability. [0:25:21, 0:25:22]: Without fear. [0:25:22, 0:25:23]: Without fear. [0:25:23, 0:25:24]: Favor? [0:25:24, 0:25:25]: Favor? [0:25:25, 0:25:26]: Faction. [0:25:26, 0:25:27]: Affection. [0:25:27, 0:25:28]: More [0:25:28, 0:25:29]: Reward. [0:25:30, 0:25:32]: Expectation thereof. Expectation thereof. [0:25:33, 0:25:35]: Congratulations, Councilor Thomas. [0:25:36, 0:25:38]: Thank you, sir. Thank you. [0:25:39, 0:25:41]: And and if I may just take a moment, um [0:25:42, 0:25:45]: I am actually uh humbled. [0:25:45, 0:25:51]: uh by the opportunity to serve the great city of Stockbridge again. [0:25:52, 0:25:53]: Um [0:25:53, 0:25:56]: In the backdrop, uh you may see um [0:25:57, 0:26:04]: A banner depicting the legacy of uh Mrs. Carrie Mae Hambrick. [0:26:04, 0:26:15]: Uh this is a lady uh that I had the opportunity to be mentored on under. She was a businesswoman here in the city of Stockbridge for over 60 years. [0:26:16, 0:26:24]: And she made it her life mission to serve the underserved uh citizens uh of this city. [0:26:24, 0:26:30]: And and I'm here tonight uh standing on the shoulders of Mrs. Hambrick. [0:26:31, 0:26:36]: uh Martin King Sr. and and many others who have trailed [0:26:36, 0:26:40]: um the the grounds here in the set of star grid. [0:26:41, 0:26:53]: But first, let me also thank my Heavenly Father for his grace and his mercy. I want to thank him for allowing the citizens of Stockbridge to see my light. [0:26:53, 0:26:57]: A a light that represent all citizens of Stockbridge. [0:26:58, 0:27:01]: I I want to thank my supporters who believed in my campaign. [0:27:01, 0:27:04]: And they believed in uh my platform. [0:27:04, 0:27:15]: uh those who walk with me um in neighborhoods, uh those who phone bank for me, uh who held signs, and those who contribute uh financially. [0:27:16, 0:27:24]: But I want to give a special thanks to my campaign manager, uh, Mrs. Uh Andrea Hughes, who I can say that. [0:27:24, 0:27:27]: uh is has successfully [0:27:28, 0:27:28]: Manage. [0:27:29, 0:27:42]: two campaigns back to back. And I just want to uh thank her and I want to thank all my supporters and I definitely want to thank the citizens for being able to see me, see my light. [0:27:43, 0:27:53]: And trust in me and believe in me, and that I will do the best of my ability to serve all of the citizens of Star Grid to ensure that. [0:27:54, 0:27:58]: Each and every one of you will be able to enjoy [0:27:59, 0:28:14]: the excitement and the benefit and a great, great uh better quality of life for all of you, youth and adults, here in the city of Thakbridge. And I just thank you so very much for allowing me another opportunity to serve you. [0:28:14, 0:28:24]: And uh my councilmate, I do look forward in working with all of you and and to the incoming city manager. Uh I'm excited uh about your hire and I look forward [0:28:25, 0:28:25]: Um [0:28:26, 0:28:30]: There are great things to come. And and again, thanks to all of you. [0:28:37, 0:28:45]: I forgot something here. I just want to acknowledge to you all that uh Henry County Superior State Judge, right? [0:28:45, 0:28:54]: Judge Ralph Bailey's in the audience here. And I just want to acknowledge the fact that he got sworn in last week by Governor Kemp. So Judge, welcome. Thank you. [0:28:59, 0:29:07]: That important who's an alpha man. So there goes another alpha man. Thank you, brothers of Rose Sigma Lambda Chapter, Alpha Alpha Turnity Incorporated. God bless you, all you brothers. [0:29:07, 0:29:11]: Okay, so uh madam clerk, can I get a roll call, please? [0:29:16, 0:29:17]: President. [0:29:18, 0:29:19]: Okay. [0:29:19, 0:29:20]: President. [0:29:22, 0:29:23]: Mm-hmm. [0:29:24, 0:29:24]: Present. [0:29:25, 0:29:26]: Remember. [0:29:27, 0:29:28]: Regular. [0:29:29, 0:29:29]: Come on again. [0:29:32, 0:29:33]: Present. [0:29:33, 0:29:34]: [1775.0, 1779.5]: Thank you, ma'am. Clerk, I appreciate that. Council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:29:41, 0:29:41]: Tá bom. [0:29:41, 0:29:42]: So a second. [0:29:43, 0:29:44]: A second. [0:29:45, 0:29:46]: Yeah, all in favor, please indicate. [0:29:48, 0:29:51]: Thank you very much. I see you, Nan's, Nanus Hands. Okay, fantastic. [0:29:52, 0:29:52]: Appreciate that. [0:29:53, 0:29:55]: Madam Clerk, do you have any public comments? [0:29:57, 0:29:58]: Okay. [0:30:05, 0:30:06]: Yeah. [0:30:08, 0:30:09]: Okay. [0:30:21, 0:30:22]: Five creates capital. [0:30:23, 0:30:25]: My name is Ann Moore. [0:30:26, 0:30:28]: And I live at five more time. [0:30:28, 0:30:32]: Oh could you put the mic closer to it, please? [0:30:34, 0:30:35]: Not bad. [0:30:36, 0:30:36]: Thank you. [0:30:39, 0:30:43]: I wanted to take this time to say council about reports. [0:30:55, 0:30:55]: Yeah. [0:31:24, 0:31:25]: Yeah. [0:31:30, 0:31:31]: [1892.4, 1893.0]: Okay. [0:31:33, 0:31:35]: I'm a seventy eight year old person. [0:31:36, 0:31:40]: My thousand things are here, everyone. [0:31:40, 0:31:40]: Yeah. [0:31:41, 0:31:42]: So this holiday seat. [0:31:43, 0:31:44]: It was hard to do. [0:31:44, 0:31:55]: Miss Barber invited me to accompany her on her visit to the senior center to play video. I went with her to Red Oak Center. I had a great time climbing. [0:31:56, 0:31:57]: You know, and I enjoy the refreshment. [0:31:59, 0:32:00]: Oh okay. [0:32:15, 0:32:18]: And I know that keeping building people socially engaged. [0:32:18, 0:32:35]: and involved in activities helps them remain healthy and positive. I want to sincerely thank Ms. Barber for picking me up and allowing me to accompany her. I enjoyed it and I could tell the residents of Read enjoyed it as well. [0:32:35, 0:32:37]: I can't wait to go again. [0:32:37, 0:32:42]: Since the only and war, five zero nine hundred foot drives, doctors, Georgia. [0:32:44, 0:32:46]: We have a second um [0:32:47, 0:32:48]: Okay, go right, please. [0:32:55, 0:32:56]: address noise. [0:33:00, 0:33:06]: minutes ago the mayor and the attorney the scary both said that it would be on the next agenda. [0:33:06, 0:33:07]: It wasn't. [0:33:08, 0:33:10]: How many years? Yes, years. [0:33:10, 0:33:12]: We really don't work any. [0:33:12, 0:33:14]: Base the constituent on this issue. [0:33:25, 0:33:26]: Mean that. [0:33:34, 0:33:35]: I've seen no way. [0:33:51, 0:33:52]: Okay, please. [0:33:52, 0:33:54]: Many concerts. [0:33:56, 0:34:07]: They use have automatic governors which lower the sound if it goes over the max decided. [0:34:08, 0:34:14]: We have already been through about two years of tortuous construction steel ongoing. [0:34:26, 0:34:27]: Tonight. [0:34:41, 0:34:42]: Make it beautiful. [0:34:44, 0:34:55]: All right, thank you for that comment. Uh Mr. Randazzle, and we'll take care of that for the upcoming uh controversy. It's gonna be taken care of. And uh you shall see. And so would everybody else. Thank you for your comment. [0:34:55, 0:35:10]: Ladies and gentlemen, what we have next is an appointment and swearing of a municipal court judge. So I would say that I would need a motion to accept the fact that the municipal court judge now, Judge Matt McFord, will continue on being our state court judge, I'm excuse me, our city judge. [0:35:10, 0:35:11]: Is there a motion, please? [0:35:12, 0:35:14]: So move for a second. [0:35:16, 0:35:19]: I second. I second. All favor, please indicate. [0:35:20, 0:35:25]: I can eat it. Okay, I think I see everybody's hands up. Okay, thank you very much. [0:35:26, 0:35:27]: Judge McCord, please, sir. [0:35:30, 0:35:31]: We'll flip the rolls here. [0:35:31, 0:35:33]: [2134.3, 2140.9]: You want this? Okay. It's different when you're not reading. [0:35:41, 0:36:01]: I state your name. I am Matthew McCord. Solemnly swear and affirm. Solemnly swear and affirm. Then I will faithfully perform. Then I will faithfully perform. The duties of municipal court judge. The duties of municipal court judge. Of the city of Stockbridge. The city of Stockbridge. Then I will that I will to the best of my ability. Charter thereof. Charter thereof. [0:36:01, 0:36:21]: As the constitution as well as the constitution and laws of the state of Georgia, the laws of the state of Georgia in the United States of America. In the United States of America. I further affirm. I further affirm that upon assumption of this office. Upon assumption of this office, I do not hold any unaccountable public money. I do not hold any unaccountable public money. Do it payable to the state. Do it payable to the state. [0:36:21, 0:36:41]: Subdivision of City of Stockbridge, City of Stockbridge, or any authority thereof, any authority thereof. Nor do I hold nor do I hold any other office of trust? Any other office of trust the government of the United States of the government of the United States of this state of this state or any foreign state foreign state as prescribed by the laws of the state of Georgia? As prescribed by the law of the state of Georgia. I do solemnly affirm. [0:36:41, 0:37:01]: And the laws of this state. The laws of this state. To hold the office of the municipal court judge. I will perform the duties of my office in the best interest in the best interest. The city of Stockbridge. That's my ability. Without fear, without fear. [0:37:01, 0:37:07]: Favorite faction faction reward or expectation narrow expectation narrow so thirty uh [0:37:07, 0:37:13]: 13th of January. This is 10th of January. [0:37:16, 0:37:17]: Yeah. [0:37:19, 0:37:20]: Awesome. [0:37:20, 0:37:22]: My credit score keeps dropping. [0:37:23, 0:37:23]: Mm-hmm. [0:37:25, 0:37:28]: I'll be brief. Uh what I'll tell you is that [0:37:29, 0:37:41]: My dad died almost exactly a year ago uh this week. And uh I was going through his things and I found where he had preached a sermon in the late sixties. And in that sermon, what he preached was [0:37:42, 0:38:02]: To love your neighbor as yourself. And in that sermon, what he went on to say was that your neighbor isn't necessarily the person next door. And they aren't somebody who looks like you. In fact, they may be somebody of a different skin color and a different faith. And to make a long story short, my grandfather was a deacon in that church, and the story is that they were after. [0:38:02, 0:38:05]: not to come back because my dad preached that sermon. [0:38:06, 0:38:12]: And here I stand over 48 years later, uh still able to shine that light. [0:38:12, 0:38:22]: So let me tell you who my neighbor is. My neighbor is Anthony Ford. My neighbor is Elton Alexander and Lakeisha Gantt and John Blount and Yolanda Barber. My neighbor is all of you. [0:38:23, 0:38:38]: And I love that and I'm humbled to be able to serve you. I'm one of those rare souls who looks to the day when my job isn't necessary anymore, because if we could all learn to love our neighbor as we love ourselves, we won't need judges and lawyers. [0:38:39, 0:38:40]: And won't that be a good day? [0:38:41, 0:38:43]: In the meantime, I'm incredibly grateful. [0:38:44, 0:38:47]: To serve you and to be a part of this city. [0:38:48, 0:38:53]: I grew up ten minutes from here. I grew up going to church at the Methodist church right down the street. [0:38:53, 0:38:58]: What an honor to stand in this room with all of you and to serve the people of this city. [0:38:58, 0:38:59]: Thank you. Thank you, Jack. [0:39:06, 0:39:26]: The court solicitor is not here, so we'll have to do that at this time. Oh better than a matter of fact, I'm sorry, the court solicitor is Julie Kurt. So I have a motion uh to a motion for her, and then if this is approved, then Judge McCorrep can go ahead and swear in. So I need a motion uh to uh accept Judy Kurt. Is our solicitor. [0:39:26, 0:39:27]: for see stuff. [0:39:27, 0:39:28]: Oh. [0:39:28, 0:39:29]: So moves our second. [0:39:31, 0:39:36]: Mr. Thomas, I see Mr. Thomas hand for a second. Okay, all fairs please indicate. [0:39:36, 0:39:45]: I thank you. Appreciate it. Okay, so so Judge, it's up to you if you can do that, sir. Appreciate it. Um, let's see here. [0:39:50, 0:39:52]: Council on aging [0:39:54, 0:39:54]: Is a um [0:39:58, 0:40:04]: Uh Miss Dorita Barber, Miss Barber, Mr. Rita Dorita Barber, Dorita Barber? [0:40:05, 0:40:09]: Yeah, could you could you uh unmute and raise your right hand please? [0:40:12, 0:40:13]: Please claro. [0:40:18, 0:40:18]: Sure. [0:40:20, 0:40:25]: It's Barber Deriva Barber. I got it pronounced right. I'm sorry if I'm messing that up. Excuse me. [0:40:30, 0:40:32]: You see it on it? Nope, not it. [0:40:35, 0:40:36]: Okay. Okay. [0:40:36, 0:40:40]: Ms. Barber, if you're present, please let me know. [0:40:40, 0:40:41]: Unmute yourself. [0:40:44, 0:40:49]: Okay, we'll we'll have to do this at another time. Okay. Um [0:40:52, 0:40:54]: Well we have next the main street advisory board members. [0:41:03, 0:41:08]: And that would include Mr. Horton, which is on Zoom. Mr. Horton, please unmute. [0:41:09, 0:41:12]: Ms. Mr. Horton and Linda Jones. [0:41:12, 0:41:13]: Miss Potts. [0:41:14, 0:41:15]: Can you please unmute? [0:41:16, 0:41:23]: And Mildred Reed as well, please unmute. And I have in person, I'm pleased, Mr. Furch is in present here. [0:41:25, 0:41:30]: uh miss spurts is on okay is on zoom as well and i got mr okay [0:41:32, 0:41:36]: So yes, if you all unmute and uh just walk as a thank you. [0:41:38, 0:41:42]: This is Mason Revisory Board. Could you all please raise your right hand? [0:41:43, 0:41:46]: Okay, I'll take a small chunks and repeat after me. [0:41:47, 0:41:53]: I say Janay. Milter Weed. Anika Potts. [0:41:53, 0:42:08]: Board member. Board member. Board member. Board member. Board member. Self display and affirm. Self-d square. Sound square and affirm. Then I'll faithfully perform. Then I'll let you know. [0:42:09, 0:42:11]: The duties of the ministry, the priority board. [0:42:11, 0:42:15]: The duties of the main street advisory board. [0:42:15, 0:42:19]: Let's see stop rate. [0:42:20, 0:42:22]: Then I will [0:42:23, 0:42:27]: To the best of my ability. To the best of my ability. [0:42:28, 0:42:32]: Support, defend, support, support, defend. [0:42:32, 0:42:49]: The charter thereof. Charter. As well as the constitution. As well as the constitution. Laws of the state of Georgia. Laws of the state of America. Law of the state of Georgia of the State of Georgia. United States of America. United States of America. [0:42:50, 0:43:10]: I further affirm that I further affirm that this office. On assumption of this office office. I do not hold any. I do not hold any unaccountable for public money. Unaccounted for public money. [0:43:10, 0:43:13]: Do a payable to a payable to say. [0:43:13, 0:43:16]: Any political subdivision of the state. [0:43:16, 0:43:19]: And I close that. [0:43:20, 0:43:28]: City of Scott Bridge, City of Space City Stockbridge. Or any authority thereof. [0:43:28, 0:43:48]: Or do I hold or do I hold any other office of trust? Of the governor of the United States, of the government of the United States of this state, of this state, or any foreign state or any foreign state. [0:43:48, 0:43:50]: Prescribed by the law. [0:43:50, 0:43:52]: That's the fair wow. [0:43:52, 0:43:53]: I'm state of Georgia. [0:43:54, 0:43:56]: Understanding Georgia. [0:43:56, 0:43:58]: I will perform the duties. [0:43:58, 0:44:18]: I will perform the duties of my office. Of my office. In the best interest of the city, and the best interest of the public city. Stockbridge. Stockbridge. Stockbridge. Without fear. Without fear. [0:44:18, 0:44:21]: Favor. Favor. Action. [0:44:23, 0:44:30]: Reward or expectation thereof or expectation there of [0:44:30, 0:44:33]: Congratulations. Congratulations, Sean. [0:44:37, 0:44:37]: Thank you for. [0:44:38, 0:44:58]: I'm sorry. Excuse me. Do you anything you want to say, sir? No, sir. I'm sorry. Okay. I'd just like to say, uh Mayor, uh Council, thank you for um giving this another opportunity to serve on the main street board. Uh I can tell you where. [0:44:58, 0:45:18]: out serve without no uncertain terms. I understand your vision. I will support your vision the best of my ability. And I thank you for uh giving me this opportunity. And for the citizen, uh I'm here for you. Uh if there's anything that I can do, please reach out to me. I've been a citizen of Stock Prayer for about 20 plus years and I love this city. And I love [0:45:18, 0:45:22]: I like the way the city's going. So council mayor, thank you. That's no problem. Thank you, sir. [0:45:26, 0:45:30]: How about you, Ms. Potts? Do you have anything you need to say, ma'am? Go right ahead, please. [0:45:31, 0:45:48]: Thank you, Mayor Ford. I would like to echo Mr. Hopkins' remarks. We as a board are excited and powered up, and we are here to serve our community and to help uh bring to fruition. [0:45:48, 0:45:50]: The city's vision. [0:45:50, 0:45:59]: Mayor and Council, and we look forward to another year of serving and um watching our downtown develop. Thank you so much. [0:45:59, 0:46:00]: Thank you. [0:46:01, 0:46:03]: Mr. Horton, please, you comment, sir. [0:46:11, 0:46:13]: Bray Horton, have you comic, sir? [0:46:15, 0:46:16]: Please unmute. Yes. [0:46:17, 0:46:22]: I hear you uh thank you, Mr. Mayor. And uh I'm just grateful for being reappointed to the Main Street Advisory Board and [0:46:23, 0:46:29]: hope to uh help move downtown Stockbridge and the city of Stockbridge forward this year. So thank you. [0:46:29, 0:46:33]: Thank you, sir. Ms. Jones, Linda Jones, please. [0:46:33, 0:46:51]: Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you. I am humble to serve on the Main Street Advisory Board again for another three-year term. I'm very humbled to take this position again. I want to thank Mayor and Council for allowing me. And I do love the city of Stockbridge. And thank you so very much. [0:46:53, 0:46:56]: Thank you. Tomorrow, sir, please. [0:46:59, 0:47:19]: Yes. Good evening, sir, and everyone else. Um, I want to thank you again for allowing me to be on the board. I'm very, very honored to be on the board for Main Street for the city of Stockbridge because the city, from the seven years that I've been in working in the city in the financial sector, um, I've seen it grow a lot. [0:47:19, 0:47:39]: And it's very, very, very, very uh promising for what the future is going to hold. Um, it actually makes me feel very proud uh to be a part of what's going on because when I always say, hey, it's over in Stockbridge, um, you know, a lot of people uh always raise their eyebrows. What is there? [0:47:39, 0:47:59]: They have this. So there's more and more things that all of you guys do, council mayor that you guys do, as well as the DDA and the Main Street program that come together to revitalize downtown. And a lot of these efforts don't go unnoticed by the citizens and people in Henry County. [0:47:59, 0:48:18]: when we talk about what's going on in Stockbridge. And it's just an honor to be a part of it. I'm very, very excited for the years to come that I'll continue to serve on the board and the continued development and all the efforts that we put towards the development of the city. So thank you again. I'm very honored and um I appreciate it. Thank you. [0:48:18, 0:48:21]: Thank you, sir. Ms. Milner Reed, please. [0:48:23, 0:48:30]: Yes, uh thank you, Mayor, for allowing me the opportunity to speak at this time. I also am honored to be on the Stockbridge um [0:48:31, 0:48:51]: Main Street Advisory Board. I have really truly, I mean it's been uh almost what five, six, five years now and going into another two more after this. And I have not once wanted to get off the board because I realize there's a lot that I can do and be involved with the city and helping the city to grow. Thank you. [0:48:51, 0:48:52]: Thank you. [0:48:53, 0:48:54]: Appreciate everybody's comments. [0:48:57, 0:49:01]: What we have next, ladies and gentlemen, will be the new council advisory committee. [0:49:01, 0:49:04]: And uh I have here uh [0:49:07, 0:49:08]: On Zoom, Miss Kendrick. [0:49:09, 0:49:12]: Ms. Kendrick, could you uh unmute yourself? [0:49:13, 0:49:19]: Okay. And in in person we have uh Darius, could you come forward, please, sir? [0:49:20, 0:49:21]: So Mika Jones. [0:49:22, 0:49:24]: See you here? Okay, come on up, please. [0:49:25, 0:49:26]: On on this on this side. [0:49:27, 0:49:29]: Uh Alfreda. [0:49:29, 0:49:30]: One up please. [0:49:31, 0:49:32]: So carry on. [0:49:34, 0:49:36]: So Carrie, I got the pronounced right? [0:49:36, 0:49:39]: Nazellas Curica, I'm sorry, excuse me. [0:49:40, 0:49:44]: Same on me. Gotta work on pronunciation here. Come on up. [0:49:45, 0:49:48]: Uh Alexander, Tody Alexander? [0:49:51, 0:49:52]: Ms. Hall? [0:49:55, 0:49:56]: Okay, one up. [0:49:56, 0:49:59]: And uh Keely White. [0:50:00, 0:50:20]: Come on, okay. Yeah, now if you could just a little down here, just uh if you get in and I'm gonna raise ask you to raise your right hand. And uh I think uh we got most folks on here, believe. All right, so we're gonna take this a small little chunk, ladies and gentlemen. And ladies and wonder, check this out. [0:50:20, 0:50:40]: Raise your right hand, please. I and Satan A. I'm sure committee member. Committee member you solemnly swear and affirm. You solemnly swear and affirm that I will faithfully perform. That I will faithfully perform. Duties of the youth council. The duties of the youth council. That I will [0:50:40, 0:51:00]: To the best of my ability, support support and defend charge thereof as well as the Constitution and laws of the state of Georgia and the United States of America. I further affirm that one assumption of this office. I do not hope. [0:51:00, 0:51:20]: Any unaccountable public money, you will payable to the state, any political subdivision of the state, any of stop rate, or any authority thereof, or any authority thereof, nor do I hold nor do I hold any other office of trust any other office. [0:51:20, 0:51:40]: the government of the United States of this state of this state or any foreign state as prescribed by the law of the state of Georgia. I will perform the duties of my office in the best interest of the city of Scott Bridge to the best of my ability. [0:51:40, 0:51:52]: Without fear, without fear, favor, favor, affection, reward, reward, expectation thereof. Congratulations. Okay. Fantastic, everybody. [0:51:53, 0:52:13]: Not a lot hold on hold on. Good right. And eventually folks, everybody's here. We got to sign our documents also, but before you go, we have to sign documents here. I gotta sign artificial documents. Everybody has at least two. Anybody any comments? Anyone else? Any? Okay, uh the chairwoman. Come on up, Erica. [0:52:13, 0:52:33]: The chairwoman here of this outstanding group. Uh you have any comments for Alice or for you to do a dot these here? Yeah, I would like to thank you all for joining this organization. We have a safe exciting um year of plant head. We um have a working really hard with pandemic if you have a safe and excited calendar. So we are so grateful that you chose. [0:52:33, 0:52:53]: our board to be a part of the help serve. I want to acknowledge one of our newly appointed advisory members, Anaya Kendrick. She was actually one of the founders of the Soccer Youth Council and she decided to come back home and join the Stock Ridge Advisory Committee. So we are so blessed to have her with us. [0:52:53, 0:52:57]: joining in a different capacity. So congratulations everybody and [0:52:57, 0:52:58]: [3186.8, 3194.1]: And what I have also now are the youth council members, um uh uh Simone Walker. [0:53:15, 0:53:16]: You're online. [0:53:20, 0:53:20]: Here. [0:53:20, 0:53:27]: Okay, cool okay, great. Uh um um uh Barnes, the poor Barnes. [0:53:29, 0:53:30]: Unmute yourself, please. [0:53:32, 0:53:34]: A boreal barns. [0:53:36, 0:53:38]: Okay, Lynn Mass. [0:53:41, 0:53:42]: Hi, I'm here. [0:53:43, 0:53:46]: You're you're not okay. K K K Les, are you here? [0:53:47, 0:53:48]: Yes, sir. [0:53:48, 0:54:01]: Okay, so I need for you, there you go. All right, fantastic. So I I need for you to you're unmuted. I need for you to raise your right hand, please. Okay. Aye and state to name. [0:54:02, 0:54:03]: I can't limit. [0:54:04, 0:54:05]: You solemnly swear. [0:54:06, 0:54:08]: You swap me swear. [0:54:08, 0:54:09]: That I will support. [0:54:09, 0:54:11]: That I was support. [0:54:11, 0:54:13]: Uphold and defend. [0:54:13, 0:54:14]: Uh all in the clean. [0:54:15, 0:54:17]: The Constitution of the United States of America. [0:54:17, 0:54:20]: The constitution of United States of America. [0:54:20, 0:54:22]: And the laws thereof. [0:54:22, 0:54:24]: And the wall thereof. [0:54:24, 0:54:25]: that I will support. [0:54:25, 0:54:27]: That I was. [0:54:27, 0:54:29]: Uphold and defend. [0:54:30, 0:54:31]: I'm holding the thing. [0:54:32, 0:54:33]: The constitution [0:54:33, 0:54:35]: The competition. [0:54:35, 0:54:37]: And the laws of the state of Georgia. [0:54:37, 0:54:39]: And the law of the state of Georgia. [0:54:40, 0:54:41]: Not inconsistent. [0:54:43, 0:54:43]: Yeah. [0:54:44, 0:54:45]: No, I don't just think [0:54:45, 0:54:48]: Okay. Uh they're they're with [0:54:49, 0:54:52]: Yeah, with that I was her [0:54:52, 0:54:54]: Then I will be done. [0:54:55, 0:54:56]: And obey the laws. [0:54:57, 0:55:00]: And obey the law. And ordinances. [0:55:00, 0:55:02]: And ornices. [0:55:02, 0:55:03]: on the city of Startbridge, Georgia. [0:55:04, 0:55:06]: But the city of Savage. [0:55:06, 0:55:08]: That I will faithfully perform. [0:55:08, 0:55:10]: That I'll be seeing this year. [0:55:11, 0:55:12]: And discharge the duties. [0:55:13, 0:55:15]: And these [0:55:15, 0:55:17]: Incumbent upon me. [0:55:17, 0:55:22]: Yeah, come upon me as a member of the city of Stockbridge Youth Council. [0:55:22, 0:55:25]: As a member of the City Staffordshire Council. [0:55:26, 0:55:27]: Fairly and honestly. [0:55:28, 0:55:30]: Yeah, honestly. [0:55:30, 0:55:32]: And to the best of my skill. [0:55:32, 0:55:34]: And so the better money. [0:55:35, 0:55:37]: and ability, so help me go. [0:55:38, 0:55:43]: And ability, so help me guys. Congratulations. [0:55:44, 0:55:45]: Thanks. [0:55:48, 0:55:52]: Maybe you can put your hand down, but in case you have something you wanna you want to say to everybody. [0:55:53, 0:55:56]: Ms. Barnes, you go ahe go ahead and do you say something? [0:55:58, 0:56:00]: Anything, anything you like. [0:56:01, 0:56:04]: Um, I just wanna say thank you for this opportunity and I can't to see [0:56:05, 0:56:07]: What Star Bridging Council has in the future? [0:56:09, 0:56:10]: Appreciate that. [0:56:11, 0:56:11]: Yes. [0:56:11, 0:56:13]: Go ahead, please. This next. [0:56:14, 0:56:28]: I'm sorry. Thank you, Mayor and all board members and council members. I want to say thank you for the opportunity. I'm very overjoyed to be a part of the Spotbridge Youth Council and I can't wait to see what the city and Spock Bridge Youth Council has in store for the city. Thank you. [0:56:29, 0:56:38]: Hi, I'm Lynne Mayor. I just want to say thank you for joining these council. I believe that you all will do great and I can't wait to work with you all. [0:56:39, 0:56:40]: Fantastic. [0:56:47, 0:56:47]: Mm. [0:56:48, 0:57:08]: Now you all realize that Stockbridge is the ancestral home for the King family. We all know that, right? And we're connected to the Civil Rights Movement. And we have a national holiday for an African-American leader, civil rights leader coming up every year. What I have before me in a proclamation, I want to read everybody. And I feel extremely proud. [0:57:08, 0:57:28]: By being not only the first African-American mayor of the city, and if you all said this election for secret term, thank you very much. I'm humbled by that. But the fact that I'm also an alpha man, and Dr. King was an alpha man, one of our greatest alpha men of our fraternity. And I have a couple of alpha men in a sanctuary, sanctuary, but church, in this council chambers with me right now. But let me read. [0:57:28, 0:57:48]: This. Whereas Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was born at noon on Tuesday, January 15, 1929, at his family home in Atlanta, Georgia, to the parents of Martin Luther King Sr. and Alberta Williams King, natives of the great city of Stockbridge. And whereas Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. devoted his life to the advancement of civil rights and public service. [0:57:48, 0:58:08]: He believed in a nation of freedom and justice for all, and challenged all citizens to help build a more perfect union to live up to the purpose of potential of America. And whereas the state of Georgia honors Dr. King's legacy each year on the third Monday in January, and whereas in eighty four, Congress initiated the King Day of Service. [0:58:08, 0:58:28]: A nationwide effort to transform the federal holiday honored Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. into the day of community service, grounded in the King, Dr. King's teachings that help solve social problems. Whereas thousands of Americans use Martin Luther King Day as a day on and not a day off by spending it performing community service and whereas Dr. King represents. [0:58:28, 0:58:48]: recognize that everybody can give be great because everybody can serve. And so during the lifetime encouraged by all Americans to serve their neighbors and the communities. And now therefore I, Anthony Spoy, by virtue of authority blessed in me, as a mayor of the city of Starbucks, Georgia. And on behalf of City Council members of Dallas and Lotta Bar, John Blount, peace again. [0:58:48, 0:59:08]: Father Thomas, who hereby proclaim January 17, 2022, as Martin Luther King Jr. Day in the Great City of Stockbridge encouraged each citizen to take part in a service that would benefit the Stockbridge community, provide a fitting memorial to the life and legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. A witness thereof, I have hereunto set my hand on the tenth day of [0:59:08, 0:59:17]: January 2022 to have calls official sale of basically a stop reproduct affixed view here too and uh assignments along with Vanessa Hall. [0:59:18, 0:59:19]: I'll stand. [0:59:25, 0:59:30]: We're gonna now go to new business and the first item of new business is appointment of the mayor pro temp. [0:59:31, 0:59:32]: Uh council. [0:59:35, 0:59:40]: I need a motion or a motion to uh uh appoint the next mayor for town, wherever that will be. [0:59:41, 0:59:44]: Mayor, Mayor Ford. [0:59:44, 0:59:49]: Uh I nominate uh councilwoman Yolanda Barber. [0:59:49, 0:59:57]: Okay. Second. Okay. Okay. Second that all favor please indicate. [1:00:00, 1:00:03]: Okay, that one, two, uh [1:00:04, 1:00:06]: Okay, all three presentation. [1:00:07, 1:00:18]: One, two. Oh, I'm sorry, Miss Gantt. I should look down. Ms. Ganttz, okay, it's three. All right. All right. And uh Miss Barmanclen makes four. Okay. And I'm all posed. [1:00:20, 1:00:21]: Okay. [1:00:23, 1:00:27]: Okay, four zero one. All right, congratulations there, Pro Tem and Mano Barber. [1:00:28, 1:00:29]: And that is a pleasure. [1:00:35, 1:00:45]: All right, uh next motion is appointment of our city attorney. We have two city attorneys from two different law firms. I need a motion to uh reappoint our city attorneys. [1:00:47, 1:00:50]: Yeah, turning that yeah. [1:00:53, 1:00:57]: Nice. No, I didn't no, I don't I don't call them being room. [1:00:57, 1:00:59]: Mm. Yes, sir. [1:01:01, 1:01:04]: Go ahead, Mary Court. I mean excuse me, Councilman Alexander now. Okay. [1:01:06, 1:01:10]: I'll make the motion to uh nominate re uh to reappoint the city attorneys. [1:01:11, 1:01:14]: Okay, just put the lust in Jeremy Berry. [1:01:14, 1:01:15]: That's yeah. [1:01:15, 1:01:22]: Well I've got it down here. Got it down here, uh Mr. Uh Ms. Uh Thomas uh uh Luke. Did that second? Okay, all in favor, please indicate. [1:01:23, 1:01:43]: Okay. All right. Okay. I think that's a unanimous decision. Okay. Uh all right. Matter of fact, excuse me. I'm sorry. Let me back up for a second. Congratulations, attorneys. Uh, but Miracle Tim Bar, I'm sorry. I I missed you, you're now on the Mirable. Do you have any comments for the audience? I'm sorry, I shouldn't have done that earlier. Do you have anything you need to say? I'm sorry, let's back up for a second. [1:01:44, 1:01:44]: Okay. [1:01:44, 1:01:45]: Well [1:01:46, 1:01:48]: I'll make it really, really short. [1:01:48, 1:01:53]: When I accepted uh the responsibility of serving on the council. [1:01:53, 1:01:56]: It was what the intentions of helping our city. [1:01:56, 1:01:57]: Be better. [1:01:57, 1:02:01]: Um, over the past two years we've been faced with a lot of challenges. [1:02:01, 1:02:02]: Um [1:02:02, 1:02:05]: From the pandemic on my first year, three months and two. [1:02:06, 1:02:18]: being on the council. But we've been able to navigate through it all with the support of staff, my councilmates, I certainly am appreciative of Councilman Thomas for nominating me. [1:02:19, 1:02:20]: Um I do not take [1:02:20, 1:02:23]: Um this responsibility lightly. [1:02:23, 1:02:23]: Um [1:02:24, 1:02:27]: We don't always agree on decisions that are made. [1:02:28, 1:02:30]: Um but all I ask is that we [1:02:30, 1:02:36]: continue to respect each other for our difference of opinions, we must do better. [1:02:37, 1:02:38]: We have to do better. [1:02:38, 1:02:42]: Um, that is exactly what my charge is to do better. [1:02:42, 1:02:51]: Do better for our constituents, the people in our community, and all of our stakeholders. So thank you again to my councilmates. [1:02:51, 1:02:54]: for entrusting me with this position. [1:02:55, 1:03:15]: Thank you. Congratulations. Okay. Umstead, Mr. Barrett, any comments that you want to say at this time, sir. Gentlemen. We're just appreciative to the city of Stockbridge, the mayor, the council, the clerk, and all of the folks that we work with on a day-to-day basis to continue to keep Stockbridge moving in a forward direction and to continue. [1:03:15, 1:03:19]: continue to be one of the best cities in the state of Georgia and ultimately in America. So thank you all. [1:03:19, 1:03:24]: Thank you, sir. I'm sorry. Yes, sir. Yes, ma'am. [1:03:25, 1:03:32]: I will abstain from voting on that, on the reappointment of the attorneys. I'm sorry, you must have missed my hand. [1:03:32, 1:03:45]: Yeah yes, okay. So that means that was uh uh 401. Okay. Miss uh Holiday? God thank you, ma'am, appreciate it. Okay, uh Mr. Berry. [1:03:45, 1:03:46]: You want live surf? [1:03:47, 1:03:55]: Thank you, Mayor. Uh, and thank you, members of council. Uh, we appreciate the opportunity. I've enjoyed working with y'all and look forward to continuing to work. [1:03:55, 1:04:04]: uh in the future with with the city to do all we can to to keep the city legal and to continue moving the city in a in a positive forward direction. [1:04:05, 1:04:25]: Thank you, sir. Uh the post the appointment of the Downtown Development Authority Board has been postponed. And so we'll take that up at a different time. And then what was next was council liaison to the Downtown Development Authority. I mean, I imagine we can do that, even though the Downtown Development Authority itself has been postponed. So if that's the case, is there a not [1:04:25, 1:04:27]: Yes, ma'am. [1:04:29, 1:04:31]: Well, I don't know what's from the lab. [1:04:32, 1:04:32]: Yeah. [1:04:35, 1:04:37]: All right, that's down corrected then. One second. [1:04:40, 1:04:41]: All right. [1:04:41, 1:04:45]: So let's let's do this. Uh Mrs. Swagger, are you online? [1:04:48, 1:04:49]: Robert Swagger. [1:04:52, 1:04:54]: [3895.0, 3896.5]: Yeah, right. [1:04:57, 1:05:09]: Not the board. Okay, the board has been postponed. Okay, for the council member. That's locked up. Okay. Excuse me. All right. So we're going back to the the liaison to the council representative to the downtown development authority. [1:05:09, 1:05:15]: uh need a motion for a uh for a council member to be that liaison is there a motion on the floor [1:05:18, 1:05:19]: Mayor. [1:05:19, 1:05:23]: Yes, sir. I believe the uh DDA had made a recommendation. [1:05:24, 1:05:26]: You did make a recommendation to that correct. [1:05:26, 1:05:28]: They did make a recommendation, sir. [1:05:28, 1:05:36]: Okay, and what were the recommendation? Do you have the recommendation? I I I remember recommendations being uh now Miracle Tim Barber or yourself. [1:05:36, 1:05:39]: We'll nominate Mayor Protein Barber to take the position. [1:05:40, 1:05:42]: Okay. Is there a second then motion? [1:05:46, 1:05:46]: Zero second. [1:05:47, 1:05:48]: Mr. Thomas section that motion. [1:05:49, 1:05:51]: Okay. All in favor, please indicate. [1:05:54, 1:05:55]: One, two. [1:05:58, 1:06:02]: I have two votes. You can vote for yourself. [1:06:03, 1:06:06]: Well you can, I suppose, if you want to do that. It's up to her. [1:06:07, 1:06:07]: Um [1:06:08, 1:06:09]: How I've seen it. [1:06:10, 1:06:11]: You'll stay. [1:06:11, 1:06:12]: Okay. [1:06:13, 1:06:13]: So [1:06:15, 1:06:16]: So we got two. [1:06:16, 1:06:17]: And [1:06:18, 1:06:19]: Mayor Ford. [1:06:19, 1:06:20]: Yes, ma'am. [1:06:20, 1:06:23]: Is this a decision that we have to make today? [1:06:23, 1:06:25]: No, it doesn't have to be made today. [1:06:26, 1:06:30]: Then not have to be made today at the once again the postponement of the [1:06:30, 1:06:37]: Downtown November authority itself, the board, it's been postponed. So it doesn't have to be made today if you if that's the wishes of the council at this time. [1:06:38, 1:06:41]: Okay, I would um suggest that we wait. [1:06:41, 1:06:44]: Um until uh yeah. [1:06:45, 1:06:46]: And then [1:06:47, 1:06:48]: We will table this action. [1:06:52, 1:06:54]: No okay, is there a second on that motion? Good point. [1:06:54, 1:06:58]: Six seconds that motion. Ms. Gan Satan, all in favor, please indicate. Thank you, ma'am. [1:06:59, 1:07:00]: One. [1:07:00, 1:07:03]: Two two. Okay. Uh looks like uh [1:07:03, 1:07:05]: That was the Nancy City, I believe. [1:07:05, 1:07:05]: Okay. [1:07:06, 1:07:08]: All right. So we are now table that. Thank you, Madam Clerk. [1:07:09, 1:07:10]: Um [1:07:11, 1:07:14]: All right, so what's next is my comments. First of all. [1:07:14, 1:07:29]: Uh obviously what we're doing tonight is the very first time we attempted this in this aspect for this ceremonial type meeting. Now, I don't know if this is going to be the way of future in a sense in this aspect, but we'll shortly see. Yes, ma'am. [1:07:29, 1:07:29]: Yeah. [1:07:33, 1:07:34]: How do I miss them? [1:07:37, 1:07:40]: Yep. You know what? That's what happens when you don't wear glasses, right? [1:07:40, 1:07:41]: Thank you. [1:07:41, 1:07:43]: Main stream value board. Thank you very much. [1:07:47, 1:07:48]: How can I do it? Okay. [1:07:52, 1:07:52]: Town. [1:07:55, 1:07:58]: May I thought we did Main Street Advisory Board with Mr. Horton, Linda Jones. [1:08:01, 1:08:03]: Okay, council appointment. Okay, there you go. Thank you very much. [1:08:06, 1:08:08]: That's why I need a clerk, right? [1:08:09, 1:08:21]: And and Miss Brads. All right. Sorry, Council. All right. Maybe advisory board layers on. Okay. Need a motion to uh see what council member will be the menstrual advisory board layers on. Is there a motion on the floor? [1:08:24, 1:08:25]: The motion on the floor. [1:08:26, 1:08:33]: Uh Mayor. Yes, sir. Uh nominate Councilman Thomas to continue in that in that role. [1:08:33, 1:08:34]: Okay, is there a second? [1:08:38, 1:08:39]: Is there a second? [1:08:39, 1:08:40]: A second. [1:08:41, 1:08:42]: Grab a second set. [1:08:42, 1:08:44]: Our favorite please indicate. [1:08:45, 1:08:46]: One, two. [1:08:48, 1:08:48]: Three. [1:08:49, 1:08:58]: Four. All right, I've got four. Uh is there of of uh someone stains of stains? [1:09:02, 1:09:03]: I got four affirmative votes. [1:09:05, 1:09:07]: Uh uh Ms. Fly, is that a affirmative vote? [1:09:09, 1:09:12]: No, you you you your pose or stain. [1:09:13, 1:09:14]: You will stay. [1:09:15, 1:09:16]: Understand it. [1:09:16, 1:09:19]: No, no. I'm for I'm I'm fine with [1:09:20, 1:09:21]: Mr. Thomas being reappointed. [1:09:22, 1:09:25]: Okay, that's the case that's in the five books. [1:09:25, 1:09:26]: Thank you. [1:09:28, 1:09:31]: All right, Ms. Bryce, thank you for catching that as well. [1:09:31, 1:09:40]: Um once again, I want to remind everybody that we're sworn in today, we have documents we need to sign, so don't go away until we sign all the documents in this aspect as well. [1:09:41, 1:10:01]: On that note, it's my comments at this time. You realize once again, I was as saying earlier, this is the first time we attempted to do it this way in this particular meeting, this meeting format. So I'm not sure if we will do this in the future, but we'll see. Otherwise, we're doing it this way because of the pandemic. And all of you have masks on, I really appreciate the fact that you're here today and separate as best as possible in this aspect. [1:10:01, 1:10:15]: So the pandemic is still going on. Homo cronics out there. So hopefully everybody here, if you haven't got vaccinated, get vaccinated. If you haven't got booster, get your booster. It's helpful. It's helpful and helpful. It's got to help out all of us in this aspect. [1:10:15, 1:10:17]: And what I understand now for uh [1:10:17, 1:10:20]: For uh children path for the uh [1:10:20, 1:10:21]: Uh Pfizer. [1:10:22, 1:10:28]: If you're 12 and owner, CDC is if CDC says at Pfizer, you get the booster. If you're 12 and owner, over. [1:10:29, 1:10:33]: And if Miderma, if you had a Miderma, you can get a booster if you're 18 and older. [1:10:33, 1:10:39]: that aspect so we have plenty of different places we can get tested and or uh get the vaccination so please do so [1:10:41, 1:10:42]: Announcements. [1:10:43, 1:10:46]: Obviously uh meetings will be held by Zoom until further notice. [1:10:49, 1:11:09]: Main Street Advisory Board will meet on the second Friday of each month at 9 a.m., which is the next meeting is January 14th. New council meetings at 5:30 p.m. on Wednesday, second Wednesday of each month in the Levi Meeting Room right here in City Hall. And the next meeting is January 12th. The downtown development authority meeting is 6 p.m. by way of Zoom, 3rd. [1:11:09, 1:11:20]: Tuesday of each month on the 18th of January. New council advisory committee meeting at 6:30 at uh and the third Tuesday of each month, which is the Pacta Henry meeting room right here in City Hall. The next meeting is January 18th. [1:11:21, 1:11:28]: Planning commission meeting is 6:30 by way of Zoom, fourth Thursday of each month. Next meeting is January 20th. Our next council, uh council work session. [1:11:29, 1:11:48]: is uh i'll kind of works on the last tues of each month so next one january 25th and our next council meeting the second monday of each month it'll be 6 p.m and uh to be determined and it's aspect as well and let me see here i've got another note here about uh now marrip and barber at the eagles landing dance center for free zoom of saturdays 8 a.m [1:11:49, 1:11:53]: And uh I have here at the 627 Red Oak Road. [1:11:53, 1:11:54]: Therefore. [1:11:55, 1:11:55]: Excuse me up. [1:11:56, 1:12:00]: those Zumba classes ended in December. [1:12:00, 1:12:01]: Okay. [1:12:01, 1:12:03]: Okay, I would make okay, thank you for that. [1:12:04, 1:12:24]: And it seems as though what I have here that uh Mr. Thomas is still uh collecting pictures of veterans, name, rank, ranks, rank, numbers of series, uh, a number of excuse me, number of years of service that uh he wants to continue to honor them. And then uh I have meet the mayor uh the voice of questions and concern the next time. [1:12:24, 1:12:32]: Time we do that with Tuesday, January 25th at 10 a.m. and uh 10 a.m. at the noon. Some appointments uh with Zenobi Peterson. [1:12:32, 1:12:39]: Pearson, I'm sorry. That's 770-389-7900. Extension 248. Um [1:12:40, 1:13:00]: Want to let you know that uh we're uh typically for this type of uh ceremony we would have um a reception. So we're not having a reception tonight based on the COVID uh concerns and that's like aspect. Uh so we're not gonna do that soon. We'll have maybe some type of uh reception later on in the year. Mayor. Yes, sir. Yeah, we have the [1:13:00, 1:13:04]: the uh Martin Luther King service project this Saturday. [1:13:05, 1:13:10]: Uh for our civic project that we always do for my Keepstart Bridge Beautiful. [1:13:10, 1:13:15]: Uh it is this Saturday uh from ten AM from nine AM to eleven AM. [1:13:15, 1:13:19]: And I seventy five and Jodico Roads a beautification project. [1:13:19, 1:13:25]: uh to make uh the Dr. King holiday a weekend of service to the community. [1:13:25, 1:13:30]: Thank you. Any any other comments, uh things I might have missed on the on the document here? [1:13:31, 1:13:32]: Okay. [1:13:33, 1:13:39]: If not that folks as the as the actual judge said earlier, he was wearing uh [1:13:39, 1:13:53]: Uh crimson tonight. Yes, I am a I'm a Bama fan. So hopefully everybody will go home and watch a nice little football game, national championships. And uh I know I'm in enemy territory, but road time. God bless y'all. [1:13:53, 1:13:56]: Anderson therefore. [1:13:56, 1:13:57]: What now? [1:13:58, 1:13:59]: Will Anderson. [1:13:59, 1:14:09]: Will we will that's right. Will Anderson is a Dutchdown high school brad and he's gonna he's gonna he's gonna really tear up those dogs on Will is an outstanding defensive uh linebacker. [1:14:09, 1:14:22]: Uh and on that note, thank you very much. We'll take care of Will though. We'll get to Will. We do have some dog fans on the council, okay? This is stock real Georgia, by the way. All right. [1:14:22, 1:14:31]: That's no problem. We'll we'll find out by the end of the night who's champion. All right. All right. On that note, council, I need a motion to adjourn the meeting. [1:14:31, 1:14:32]: So move, is there a second? [1:14:33, 1:14:34]: Mayor Ford. [1:14:34, 1:14:35]: Yes, ma'am. [1:14:37, 1:14:40]: I'd like to actually motion to go into executive session. [1:14:40, 1:14:41]: Well [1:14:42, 1:14:44]: First of all, okay. Is there a second then motion? [1:14:46, 1:14:47]: Is there seconds and most? [1:14:48, 1:14:52]: No second of motion. I need motion to adjourn. You second motion to adjourn. [1:14:53, 1:14:59]: Council may not adjourn. Okay, all all in favor, please indicate to adjourn. [1:15:00, 1:15:03]: No, I second I second the motion. [1:15:03, 1:15:04]: Two. [1:15:04, 1:15:07]: to which motion you talking about, sir? Executive session. [1:15:08, 1:15:10]: Really, okay, okay. [1:15:11, 1:15:11]: All right. [1:15:12, 1:15:17]: All right, so we got a motion that's got a second. All right. So all in favor of going to the second session, please indicate. [1:15:20, 1:15:22]: Okay, all polls. [1:15:25, 1:15:31]: Okay, that uh two, two opposed, three. So now, okay, this so we now how are we gonna do this now? [1:15:32, 1:15:32]: Yeah. [1:15:33, 1:15:37]: I've got the I think I have I have three two going into echo session. [1:15:37, 1:15:41]: And and by by the way, I'm sorry you didn't indicate what this exercise is for, by the way. [1:15:41, 1:15:42]: I'm sorry. [1:15:43, 1:15:44]: Um [1:15:44, 1:15:47]: for personnel litigation and real estate matters. [1:15:47, 1:15:49]: Okay, so [1:15:50, 1:15:52]: So how are we gonna do this with uh [1:15:54, 1:15:56]: With you there. [1:15:56, 1:15:57]: Everybody we're here. [1:15:58, 1:16:02]: So you have an idea, Mr. Mr. Bonds, how we could handle this? [1:16:02, 1:16:04]: Be on another laptop. Another laptop? [1:16:05, 1:16:06]: Okay. [1:16:06, 1:16:07]: So [1:16:08, 1:16:11]: So we'll probably have to take the other laptop. Can you do this in the other room? [1:16:11, 1:16:15]: So we have to go to the other room, but then again, everybody have to be on their laptop. [1:16:16, 1:16:36]: All right, so another another zoom session. Another zoom session. Okay. So we'll take another laptop and there you'll have to okay. All right. So give us about uh, I guess what do you need, 10-50 minutes? 10 minutes. 10 minutes. We're gonna we're gonna take the laptop into the executive session room. We'll have to notify you on the connectivity for that, and we'll do it on the laptop. [1:16:36, 1:16:37]: In the other room. [1:16:37, 1:16:37]: All right. [1:16:38, 1:16:38]: All right. [1:16:39, 1:16:50]: See y'all later. Okay, Mr. Ladies and gentlemen, you ladies and gentlemen, you're born and welcome to stay. We're going to second session, we'll come back out. But on that note, if you don't want to stay for that portion of the meeting, you all can uh depart. [1:16:51, 1:16:52]: And I wish you well. [1:16:52, 1:16:53]: And uh [1:16:53, 1:16:56]: Wish you well and in reference to an evening activity. [1:16:57, 1:17:03]: Oh yeah, we gotta sign these documents. I'm sorry, that's a good point. We gotta sign the documents here. Everybody's gotta come sign the document with community. [1:17:04, 1:17:06]: Have a good evening and go dogs. [1:17:08, 1:17:13]: That's the bounce. [1:17:14, 1:17:15]: Yeah. [1:17:16, 1:17:24]: Oh yeah. [1:17:24, 1:17:29]: So what we have one actually. [1:17:30, 1:17:32]: Right then we get [1:17:33, 1:17:35]: Yeah. [1:17:36, 1:17:47]: Well we could [1:17:50, 1:17:51]: All right, thank you. [1:18:06, 1:18:06]: [4706.2, 4707.8]: Vanessa, were you able to get that to her? [1:18:28, 1:18:30]: I did. I sent it out. [1:18:31, 1:18:31]: Okay. [1:18:41, 1:18:42]: All right, well [1:18:43, 1:18:44]: We actually have a [1:18:45, 1:18:45]: Yeah. [1:18:45, 1:18:46]: Quorum now doing. [1:18:46, 1:18:47]: Yeah. [1:18:47, 1:18:48]: No [1:18:50, 1:18:51]: You give it another minute or so. [1:19:14, 1:19:16]: I guess. I even though we're in [1:19:18, 1:19:19]: Yeah. [1:19:23, 1:19:24]: I tell you what, um [1:19:25, 1:19:28]: Th I'd like to have a motion to end our executive session, please. [1:19:32, 1:19:34]: Mr. Thomas uh so moves in a second. [1:19:35, 1:19:36]: Second. [1:19:36, 1:19:36]: All right. [1:19:37, 1:19:39]: Okay, all in favor, please indicate. [1:19:41, 1:19:42]: Okay. Miss Barber. [1:19:45, 1:19:47]: All right, three three votes. I got three votes there. [1:19:48, 1:19:50]: Now I need a motion to uh reconvene our [1:19:51, 1:19:51]: Or um [1:19:52, 1:19:53]: Um [1:19:53, 1:19:55]: Councilman Ford, tonight. [1:19:56, 1:19:59]: Ms. Thomas motioned that so moved. So second. [1:20:00, 1:20:00]: Okay. [1:20:01, 1:20:03]: Ms. Mr Melproten second at all in favor, please indicate. [1:20:05, 1:20:08]: All right, so I got three votes here. All right, we're back in the regular session. [1:20:09, 1:20:09]: Um [1:20:11, 1:20:12]: Anyway. [1:20:12, 1:20:13]: We need a duh [1:20:13, 1:20:18]: We had a uh we had some decisions that uh decision that we don't need to uh make at this time. [1:20:19, 1:20:21]: In reference to our segment session. [1:20:21, 1:20:27]: And uh so I need to need that uh that motion to go forward in reference to [1:20:28, 1:20:31]: Um our decision that we had during the Zagua session, please. [1:20:32, 1:20:36]: Therefore, I'd like to move to reconsider my nomination and vote. [1:20:37, 1:20:38]: For Mayor Pro Tan. [1:20:39, 1:20:39]: Circuit. [1:20:40, 1:20:40]: Okay. [1:20:41, 1:20:52]: Okay, all in favor of the motion. Made in a second. All in favor of the motion, please. Mayor, Mayor, this is Jeremy. Can I just correct something? I don't think there was a decision made in executive disc uh session. It was just a discussion. [1:20:53, 1:20:54]: All right. [1:20:54, 1:21:11]: So but we have from the discussion though, right, right, right. Correct, correct. Okay. I just want to be careful because you said there was a decision made. Okay. From the action, okay. From the action, there's for the discussion, there was an action that we'd like to make. And so on that note, once again. [1:21:12, 1:21:12]: Uh [1:21:13, 1:21:15]: Now, well, Ms. Barber. [1:21:15, 1:21:17]: Yeah, what is your your what is your motion? [1:21:21, 1:21:24]: I would like to move to reconsider my nomination. [1:21:24, 1:21:25]: And vote. [1:21:26, 1:21:27]: As Mayor Pro Tian. [1:21:28, 1:21:28]: Sorry. [1:21:29, 1:21:29]: Okay. [1:21:30, 1:21:32]: All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:21:33, 1:21:35]: All right, three votes, okay. [1:21:35, 1:21:39]: Is there any other uh discussion issue that we need to bring forward at this time? [1:21:42, 1:21:43]: Anything else? [1:21:43, 1:21:45]: Make the nomination. [1:21:46, 1:21:51]: Mayor Ford, I would like to move to nominate Councilman Thomas as Mayor Pro Tan. [1:21:52, 1:21:53]: Circuit. Okay. [1:21:54, 1:21:56]: Okay, uh motion was made a second. All in favor, please indicate. [1:21:59, 1:21:59]: All right. [1:22:00, 1:22:04]: Motion passed. Three three votes. Motion passed. Um [1:22:04, 1:22:12]: I have something I want to share with you, ladies and gentlemen, and uh that just hit uh hit my phone here. It's not from the second session. [1:22:12, 1:22:14]: Want to share this with you. This came from [1:22:14, 1:22:18]: Доктор Мері Елизабет Дейвіс супер інтентів скулс. [1:22:19, 1:22:23]: She says that I wanted to make you uh wanted to be able to share with you [1:22:23, 1:22:29]: That the board of education took action tonight to identify Patrick Henry Seit. [1:22:29, 1:22:31]: For the future of our stem for Hebron County. [1:22:33, 1:22:34]: Do you understand what I just said? [1:22:35, 1:22:36]: Mm-hmm. [1:22:36, 1:22:39]: All right, the STEM school from Henry County. [1:22:40, 1:22:43]: Is going to be right across from City Hall. [1:22:43, 1:22:46]: It's right down street from City Hall, Patrick Henry. [1:22:46, 1:22:47]: Cool site. [1:22:47, 1:22:48]: Okay. [1:22:48, 1:22:49]: I'll stand. [1:22:50, 1:22:54]: Just wanted you to know that just came in, came in uh a little while ago and I just happened to see it on my phone. [1:22:55, 1:22:58]: So wanna share that with you all, with the citizens that are listening, with the council. [1:22:58, 1:23:02]: Okay, on that note I need a motion to end our uh council meeting tonight. [1:23:03, 1:23:03]: No move. [1:23:04, 1:23:07]: So move, Mayor Potem, second, Mr. Thomas. [1:23:08, 1:23:09]: All in fair, please indicate. [1:23:10, 1:23:12]: We are now journal. Good night. God bless y'all. [1:23:13, 1:23:19]: Go dogs. Go dogs. Go dogs, right? No. Alabama rotted. Oh well. [1:23:19, 1:23:21]: This is Stockbridge, Georgia.

--- title: Special Called Meeting Via Zoom date: 2022-01-04 source: 2022-01-04_Special_Called_Meeting_Via_Zoom.wav --- [0:00:07, 0:00:09]: Thank you. Appreciate that. Recording. [0:00:11, 0:00:12]: Fantastic. [0:00:18, 0:00:23]: Okay, uh Councilman Barber, good evening to you. Councilman Thomas, good evening. [0:00:24, 0:00:26]: Catherine Blount, good evening to you as well. [0:00:27, 0:00:28]: Good evening, sir. [0:00:30, 0:00:31]: Good evening, everyone. [0:00:35, 0:00:36]: Ms. Johnson. [0:00:37, 0:00:37]: Good evening. [0:00:38, 0:00:39]: Right. [0:00:40, 0:00:42]: And we're now streaming on Facebook. [0:01:12, 0:01:13]: [100.0, 100.9]: Good, got it. [0:01:43, 0:01:45]: Good evening, Mr. Gardner. How you doing, sir? [0:01:46, 0:01:47]: Good to see you. [0:01:49, 0:01:50]: I'm doing fine, Mr. Mayor. How are you? [0:01:51, 0:01:53]: Oh, just fine, just fine. Absolutely. [0:01:53, 0:01:54]: Alrighty. [0:01:54, 0:01:56]: Good. Happy New Year, everybody. [0:01:56, 0:01:58]: Happy New Year too, sir. Appreciate it. [0:02:00, 0:02:01]: Happy New Year. [0:02:02, 0:02:02]: Thank you. [0:02:05, 0:02:08]: Sana Thornton, the PIO was present, outstanding. [0:02:10, 0:02:14]: We got the chief of police, Mr. Tremor. Chief Tremorlin, how you doing, sir? [0:02:15, 0:02:16]: Yeah. [0:02:16, 0:02:21]: Doing well, Mayor. I'm driving but I wanted to uh be on the call this evening. Thank you. [0:02:21, 0:02:29]: No problem. Good stuff. Appreciate it. Mayor Ford, this is Shane. Just a friendly reminder, we are live on Facebook, sir. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. [0:03:00, 0:03:00]: Mm-hmm. [0:03:01, 0:03:05]: All righty. Mr. Washington, good to see you, sir. Good evening. [0:03:07, 0:03:08]: Oh, greedy, greedy. [0:03:09, 0:03:09]: Right. [0:03:17, 0:03:18]: I'll make it. [0:03:31, 0:03:35]: Okay, so I got John Wiggins, Miss Johnson, Miss Wheeler. [0:03:36, 0:03:37]: Okay, good evening folks. [0:03:40, 0:03:41]: Good evening. [0:03:41, 0:03:42]: All right. [0:03:43, 0:03:44]: Got the Mirapro Town. [0:03:45, 0:03:46]: Good evening, sir. [0:03:50, 0:03:52]: Good evening, everyone. Good evening. [0:03:55, 0:04:00]: All right, so let's see here. What do we have for time? [0:04:01, 0:04:06]: Okay, I have, oh ladies and gentlemen, we are recording. We're on Facebook Live and I have 601. [0:04:07, 0:04:11]: So I am going to call the meeting to order. [0:04:12, 0:04:32]: And uh on that note, I will do the invocation for this evening. Please bow your heads. Lord, thank you to bring us together once again as we continue to do the cities and the citizens' work as we discuss and approve and appoint the next city manager to this outstanding city. Be with always Lord as we make good logical decisions and we continue to move the city forward. [0:04:32, 0:04:37]: with greatness and make the city even greater than it is today. Be this always, Lord, in your name. Amen. [0:04:38, 0:04:40]: All right, if we can stand for the Pledge Allegiance, please. [0:04:43, 0:04:47]: Place allegiance to the flag flag of the United States of America. [0:04:47, 0:04:50]: And to your father for which it stands. [0:04:50, 0:04:51]: One nation. [0:04:51, 0:04:52]: And look at [0:04:52, 0:04:55]: indivisible with liberty and justice for all. [0:04:56, 0:04:57]: Oh. [0:04:58, 0:05:01]: Madam Clerk, uh roll call, please. [0:05:08, 0:05:10]: You're muted, Madam Clerk. Here forward. [0:05:10, 0:05:11]: Present. [0:05:13, 0:05:14]: Mayor Pro Tem Alexander. [0:05:14, 0:05:15]: Present. [0:05:15, 0:05:16]: Councilwoman Barber. [0:05:17, 0:05:17]: Excellent. [0:05:17, 0:05:19]: Councilman Blount. [0:05:19, 0:05:20]: Present. [0:05:20, 0:05:21]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:05:24, 0:05:27]: Let the record reflect Councilwoman Gann is not in attendance. Councilman Thomas. [0:05:28, 0:05:28]: Project. [0:05:28, 0:05:31]: Mayor Ford, do you have a quorum? Thank you, uh Madam Clerk. [0:05:33, 0:05:46]: Council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, which is the special call meeting in reference to the approval and appointment of our next city manager, Mr. Fred Gardner, which is online right now with us at this time. Some of you. Is there a second? [0:05:47, 0:05:51]: Seconds. Mr. Bernbro Tim Seconds had all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:05:53, 0:06:13]: And it's unanimous for the folks that are here. Okay, ladies and gentlemen, we we have the opportunity to go ahead and approve our next city manager. He's like once again, he's present. If there is any further discussion and on the personnel matters that we have to discuss or need to discuss, we'd have to go into second session for that because this is an open meeting, so we we don't talk about personnel actions openly in this aspect. [0:06:13, 0:06:18]: But on that note, I will ask whether or not there is a motion to go into second session if that is a need. [0:06:18, 0:06:24]: Mayor Ford, I'd like to make a motion to go into an executive session for personnel matters. [0:06:24, 0:06:25]: Okay, is there a second? [0:06:27, 0:06:29]: Um councilman Thomas seconds that. [0:06:29, 0:06:30]: Okay. [0:06:31, 0:06:33]: All right. All in favor of motion, please indicate. [0:06:35, 0:06:41]: All pol okay, Merpotem, you you okay, Mayor Potem, you approve that. Okay, all pose. [0:06:42, 0:06:44]: Or sustain. Abstain. [0:06:46, 0:06:47]: Uh Class. [0:06:48, 0:06:49]: Abstain, Mayor. [0:06:49, 0:07:09]: Okay. All right. So on that note, we'll we'll go into executive session. And uh so what are we gonna need? That would be the entire council, the attorneys, the HR manager, and uh everybody else would have oh both Jeremy. I'm glad to see you online as well. So we need to get a link for all everybody else. Once again, the the account of the council. [0:07:09, 0:07:12]: Council, uh, the HR manager, the clerk. [0:07:13, 0:07:19]: Excuse me, along with the attorneys. And folks, we'll do that and then we'll be back as soon as we can. All right. Stand by. [0:07:21, 0:07:26]: I'll see you in a second session in a few minutes, please. And Miss Halley, I bless you, you'll be sending out a different link for that, correct? [0:07:43, 0:07:44]: Yeah. [0:07:46, 0:07:49]: Real quick, Miss Halliday, can you hear me? [0:07:50, 0:07:51]: Yes. [0:07:51, 0:07:56]: Generally what the county does is they don't shut the meeting down if they're in the executive session. [0:07:56, 0:08:00]: They leave it open, they leave the camera open, and that's what we used to do. [0:08:00, 0:08:02]: So when people [0:08:02, 0:08:05]: um, you know, a come on or they try to get on. [0:08:05, 0:08:12]: The meeting, the the original meeting never shuts down. It stays going. So they will know that we're in executive session if they try to use that link. [0:08:13, 0:08:15]: I've created [0:08:15, 0:08:22]: A page just for that. Um, may approach M Alexander to put up, I was going over that with IT today. [0:08:22, 0:08:26]: Okay, thank you. And we will have that in place. Thank you. You're welcome. [0:08:38, 0:08:42]: We just need the mayor to sign off on it as presiding officer. [0:08:42, 0:08:47]: All right. Is anybody a a the historian of the city? Would you happen to know what number? [0:08:48, 0:08:55]: This would be this what number city manager that would be like the 43rd president or 44th president? Would anybody know? [0:08:57, 0:08:59]: Have a document that does [0:09:00, 0:09:07]: I have a document that has the officers, but I would have to actually go back and tell you what that was. I can't tell you that right now. [0:09:07, 0:09:08]: Okay. [0:09:12, 0:09:14]: Wasn't looking for that question, so [0:09:15, 0:09:16]: That's interesting. [0:10:14, 0:10:16]: Yeah, that's good. [0:10:39, 0:10:41]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, sorry about my delay. [0:10:43, 0:10:53]: that off. Okay. So we have everybody back in here now. All right. Good deal. So I need a motion, ladies and gentlemen, to uh to end our executive session, please. So move. [0:10:53, 0:10:54]: No second. [0:10:55, 0:10:56]: Okay. [0:10:56, 0:11:03]: Okay. I got I saw Mr. Thomas, uh I mean saw Mr. Thomas's hand. We'll give it him a second. Okay, all in third, please indicate. [0:11:05, 0:11:07]: Okay, I need a motion now to reconvene a special call meeting. [0:11:08, 0:11:14]: So move. Okay. Miss okay, Miss Thomas again. Second that. All in favor, please indicate. [0:11:16, 0:11:27]: Thank you very much. All right. So out of the second uh out of the second uh session for the special call meeting, we have a a solution and an answer and and uh something we need to bring to the public side. Mayor Pro Tem, please. [0:11:27, 0:11:47]: Yes, ladies and gentlemen, I want you to understand that this council takes this charge serious. We had deliberative discussions over what we uh were going to do. Uh, we took due diligence and time because we understand uh the appointment of city manager is extremely important because on a day-to-day basis we have the councilman. [0:11:47, 0:11:52]: manager form of government and the city manager actually runs the city. [0:11:53, 0:11:58]: It is my pleasure to nominate Frederick Gardner as the new [0:11:58, 0:12:02]: City Manager for the City of Stockbridge with the confirmation of this council. [0:12:03, 0:12:04]: Second. [0:12:04, 0:12:06]: So mayor, okay, councilman Blount, second that [0:12:07, 0:12:09]: Uh okay. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:12:11, 0:12:30]: Fantastic. It's unanimous decision. Fantastic. Now, congratulations. Now, earlier in the evening, before we went to the second session, we had Mr. Gardner online. And I'd like to have us all congratulate him personally. And is there a way that we can reconnect with uh with Mr. Gardner, Ms. Holiday, if you can uh reconnect with him, please? [0:12:30, 0:12:32]: We can welcome into the fold. [0:12:38, 0:12:39]: You're muted, Vanessa. [0:12:39, 0:12:44]: Yes, sir. And I also sent the message out to the directors as well. Okay, thank you very much. Appreciate that. [0:12:46, 0:12:50]: So let's stand by here and and uh wait for everybody to be reconnected here. [0:12:54, 0:12:56]: So I'm sure it might take a mirror. [0:12:56, 0:12:57]: Yes, sir. [0:12:57, 0:13:05]: I'm sure it might take a few minutes for him to come back online for everybody to get online. I thank you for the opportunity for us to be able to speak. [0:13:05, 0:13:09]: It might be a good opportunity for you or someone on the council to kind of talk about [0:13:10, 0:13:27]: that role of city manager. A lot of people are has confusion because they think we run the city and we make the decisions and then in the end it's the city manager who carries out the day-to-day operations. I don't know whether the attorneys might be able to splay in that role or somebody might be a good opportunity to do that. [0:13:27, 0:13:47]: No, well, I mean, I can start that process and I've been acting in that capacity for a couple of months now. But anyway, the city manager runs the day-to-day staff and and implements the decisions, legislative decisions that the council makes, the merit of the council make in this aspect. But there's a merit amount of situations with all the directors that the city manager has to deal with. A lot of the directors will come right back on for [0:13:47, 0:14:07]: This part of the meeting as well. They have supervision of those day-to-day operations, those directors, whether it's for the finance, whether it's economic development. It deals with the the uh community development aspect, the public uh works, which is our largest actual uh directorate in reference to keeping the the city clean and and and spruced up and and handling all those things. [0:14:07, 0:14:21]: things and our roadways and things of this nature as well. And then we of course we have the the clerk's office and we have uh um the uh actual uh I already mentioned community development and aspect as well. Mr. Gardner, welcome back, sir. [0:14:23, 0:14:24]: Thank you. [0:14:24, 0:14:38]: Congratulations, Mr. Gardner. We we unanimously selected you as our next city manager. Welcome and welcome into the fold. Stockbridge is where community connects. You're a great asset. We we understand that. You're a great man. You're going to be great for our city. [0:14:39, 0:14:53]: And uh I'm happy to have you aboard. And I want you to know, sir, I want you to be the city manager a lot longer than I'm gonna be mayor of the city, which means you need to be city manager for many years. Okay. All right. Yes, sir. All right. I'm going um it's it's public knowledge for many years, sir. Many years we want you here. [0:14:53, 0:15:00]: On that note, I'm going to allow the city council to also give you some comments, sir. I'll start with the mayor pro tem. Go ahead, please. [0:15:01, 0:15:09]: Mr. Gardner, welcome aboard. As you said, thank you. And why and as you said, this is a team effort. [0:15:09, 0:15:14]: You know, you the one thing that struck me about what you said is that we all need to work together and people [0:15:14, 0:15:17]: that work in coordination with you have to collaborate. [0:15:18, 0:15:20]: And everybody needs to work together. [0:15:20, 0:15:22]: Uh as a team, as a unit. [0:15:22, 0:15:27]: to be more productive. And you said that you didn't have very much toleration for people who weren't [0:15:27, 0:15:47]: Team players, and that you needed everybody to work together. And that's what we need at this city. Everybody rolling in the same direction and working together cohesively to bring us uh the unity that we need in this city to move forward uh with all that we have before us right now. Uh, this is the greatest time that we have. [0:15:47, 0:15:53]: have available that in in the history of the city in my estimation with so much going on. [0:15:53, 0:15:56]: And the person that we we passing the torch to. [0:15:56, 0:16:02]: is you to carry out the tremendous projects that we're looking for in terms of the trail projects. [0:16:02, 0:16:05]: That we're looking for to redevelop our downtown and [0:16:05, 0:16:08]: You know, traffic stops in Henry County. [0:16:08, 0:16:22]: It's a heavy weight, but we know without a shadow of a doubt that we have the right man living right here in our community that can take us to the next level. So welcome aboard and thank you for accepting this position. [0:16:22, 0:16:26]: Thank you so much. Mr. Thomas, I'm thank you. I'm going to cross Mr. Thomas, you're next. [0:16:26, 0:16:29]: Thank you. Uh Mr. Garden, welcome. [0:16:29, 0:16:37]: Welcome home as as it's oftentimes they say you can't go back home, but um, but we're gonna welcome you back home. [0:16:37, 0:16:43]: Uh I I I truly appreciate you and I spoke the other night and and I appreciate you. [0:16:43, 0:16:50]: uh you know entertaining uh some of my thoughts some of my questioning i i really do appreciate that [0:16:50, 0:16:53]: Um and as as you and I saw the um [0:16:53, 0:17:02]: uh recognize that I probably have known you longer than anyone uh on this council. So, you know, we go back a little bit and um and [0:17:02, 0:17:07]: You know, your your your body of work is a um is exemplary. [0:17:07, 0:17:10]: Um I look forward to to to working with you. [0:17:10, 0:17:14]: Uh without a doubt, I think you are the uh the right man for the job. [0:17:15, 0:17:34]: I know that uh you are the kind of guy that uh works in the trenches, you roll up your sleeve, you get your hand dirty uh to make sure that the job gets done. And you know, when you and I talk, you know, and I think it's it's important for me to say this now, uh, the relationship uh between [0:17:34, 0:17:36]: Um the council [0:17:36, 0:17:38]: And the city manager. [0:17:39, 0:17:46]: Um it is very important because as these policies and goals and objectives are are created. [0:17:46, 0:17:49]: And when it comes to that relationship with staff. [0:17:50, 0:18:10]: um the city manager in the in the middle and the council it is very important for that dynamic and you and you spoke very well to that as far as your understanding so i'm excited about um you know our future here uh you know in stockbridge i'm excited about you being uh a part of that team actually too [0:18:10, 0:18:16]: to uh to lead that team. I'm really excited about them. So welcome, welcome, and welcome. [0:18:17, 0:18:17]: Thank you, sir. [0:18:18, 0:18:19]: Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. [0:18:21, 0:18:41]: Mr. Gardner, uh, I just want to personally say, uh, and I'm my uh uh listening to everyone talk that that we do welcome you to the city of Stockbridge. Uh I believe that you bring a level of expertise and knowledge to the city that you not only will have an opinion, but you will have recommendations. Uh recommendations that in progress is where we go, and that's what [0:18:41, 0:19:01]: We need. I believe that you're one that's going to have an organized and proficient workplace, along with uh knowing what we need to do and how we need to move forward. I think that you are in a place where a collaborative effort between yourself and the mayor and this council, along with all staff, I think that. [0:19:01, 0:19:12]: you're able to form that and and and uh maintain that for progress for the city. So I just want to say um welcome uh to the city of Stockbridge, but thank God that you still live in Henry County. [0:19:13, 0:19:14]: Thank you, sir. [0:19:15, 0:19:16]: Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [0:19:18, 0:19:34]: Congratulations and welcome, Mr. Gardner. Um, no doubt, I believe that you um will do a great job for us. You've come highly uh recommended. I think I am the only member of the council who've never met you before in person. [0:19:34, 0:19:38]: Only met you once, um, but uh I'm looking forward. [0:19:38, 0:19:52]: to all of the possibilities and all of the ideas that you have in your mind for our great city. What is most impressive for me is you have a vested interest. [0:19:52, 0:19:55]: In not only seeing our city дуэл. [0:19:56, 0:19:57]: You live in our community. [0:19:58, 0:20:01]: So you want our entire community to thrive. [0:20:01, 0:20:05]: And I'm super excited about that. So congratulations and welcome. [0:20:06, 0:20:06]: Thank you. [0:20:07, 0:20:15]: Mr. Gardner, just to so make sure everybody knows, I'm pretty sure they know that your original start date is 18 uh January, right after Dr. King. [0:20:15, 0:20:35]: uh birthday, holiday weekend there. But there is a time if if possible between now and then that time frame, is there a way that we can work out sometime to do a transition with you or even come to City Hall to introduce you to some of the members, which I'll do this in just a second, some of the staff here, the directors that are online, if we can work through that process that with your schedule and try to make that work [0:20:35, 0:20:44]: work in this aspect, just for food for thought. On that note, then the treasurer, just so you know, the treasure, Mr. John Wiggins, I believe you you all know each other in a sense. Ms. Mr. Wiggins, go ahead, please. [0:20:51, 0:20:55]: How's it going, uh Mr. Gardner? Doing well, doing well, John. [0:20:55, 0:20:58]: Uh it's it's uh uh I think it's um [0:20:58, 0:21:04]: A great moment for Stockbridge. This is gonna be my second tour with Mr. Gardner as uh [0:21:04, 0:21:05]: As a [0:21:06, 0:21:06]: You know. [0:21:07, 0:21:09]: See the manager. So I'm really excited. [0:21:09, 0:21:12]: You know, I had a good time my first tour, so [0:21:13, 0:21:16]: Very excited to uh get behind him and and push the city forward. [0:21:17, 0:21:19]: You John. Looking forward to [0:21:20, 0:21:20]: Good deal. [0:21:20, 0:21:22]: Chief Tremor, a police chief. [0:21:22, 0:21:23]: Sir. [0:21:24, 0:21:28]: If you had any comments, I know you all probably never ever met before, but go right here, sir. [0:21:29, 0:21:36]: No, we have not, but uh I certainly have heard uh some great things uh about you, Mr. Garner, and I s and and I look forward to uh [0:21:37, 0:21:45]: To working with you and uh collaborating with the rest of the team here to move the city of Stockbridge forward. So congratulations to you, sir. [0:21:45, 0:21:46]: And uh welcome to the scene. [0:21:47, 0:21:53]: Thank you, Chief. And we know some of the same people. So they speak highly of you as well. So just to let you know. Thank you. [0:21:54, 0:21:54]: Yes, sir. [0:21:55, 0:21:56]: Miss Johnson, please. [0:21:58, 0:22:03]: Good evening, Mayor Council. Uh Mr. Gardner, looking forward to working again. [0:22:04, 0:22:08]: Um, I've worked with you as well years, years, years ago and [0:22:10, 0:22:16]: I'm looking forward to having you on board and moving things forward um as we have all tried to chip in to do. [0:22:16, 0:22:18]: And um looking forward to briefing you. [0:22:19, 0:22:20]: on what's going on in community development. [0:22:22, 0:22:24]: Thank you, Berke. Appreciate it. Happy New Year. [0:22:24, 0:22:25]: Happy new year to you two. [0:22:26, 0:22:28]: Mr. Aaron, please. [0:22:29, 0:22:36]: Oh yes, welcome Mr. Gardner. Be a pleasure to work with you. I've heard a lot of good things about you. [0:22:36, 0:22:45]: I think we have some friends in common, but everybody I've spoken to about you that has spoken with me about you speak very highly of you. [0:22:45, 0:22:49]: And we're looking forward to being a part of your team and moving Stockbridge forward. [0:22:50, 0:22:51]: Thank you, Mr. Aaron. Looking forward to it, sir. [0:22:53, 0:22:54]: Mr. Peterson, please. [0:22:57, 0:22:59]: Happy New Year, Mayor and Council. Um [0:22:59, 0:23:08]: Mr. Gardner, I I've heard nothing but great things about you. I I look forward to meeting with you and and talking with you about all the great things we have going on in economic development. [0:23:08, 0:23:10]: But again, welcome and I'm looking forward to it. [0:23:11, 0:23:13]: Thank you, sir. Thank you, Mr. I'm looking forward to it too. [0:23:14, 0:23:21]: You know, another important person of staff, everybody's important, but I'll tell you what I I can't forget about our public relations. Miss Sana Thornton, please. [0:23:22, 0:23:22]: Yeah. [0:23:25, 0:23:40]: Hey, how are you? Happy New Year, Mayor and Council. Mr. Gardner, I um am elated with joy that you are on our team and I look forward to working with you, sir. You are part of a great team and our city is very, very, very dynamic and our future is even brighter now. Thank you. [0:23:40, 0:23:42]: Oh thank you. Looking forward to it. [0:23:44, 0:23:48]: And Mr. Bonds, I know you're an IT guy, but you're very important as well. [0:23:48, 0:23:49]: And uh [0:23:50, 0:23:54]: Uh Mr. Bonds, I um you you're online. If you have anything to say, go please go ahead and do that. [0:23:55, 0:23:59]: I do. My my uh supervisor Ashley Smith speaks highly of [0:24:00, 0:24:04]: Mr. Gardner, uh, he's looking to work and forward with him and anything he needs to make sure. [0:24:04, 0:24:06]: uh the city runs uh [0:24:07, 0:24:13]: the way he needs it to run. So definitely looking forward to working with you and uh seeing where you and actually can come up with. [0:24:13, 0:24:15]: All right, same here. [0:24:16, 0:24:23]: Yeah, Pro Tem, you got your hand up for a reason, sir? Yeah, I did. Uh uh Representative Angela Moore with District. [0:24:23, 0:24:32]: 90. Georgia House rep said she wanted to say congratulations to Mr. Gardner and to pass along her wishes as well. She looked forward to working with them. [0:24:33, 0:24:35]: Okay, thank you. Appreciate that. [0:24:35, 0:24:45]: And uh Mr. Gardner, as you well know, we have to have a we have attorneys. So you got Mr. Washington and Mr. and Mr. Barrett here. Gentlemen, I don't know if you want anything you want to say at this time. [0:24:45, 0:24:51]: You want to I would just say on behalf of uh the Quentin Washingtons here, that's two of us, one being there and one being below. [0:24:51, 0:24:55]: That's actually Jeremy Berry, but um we are excited about the possibilities. [0:24:55, 0:25:04]: And the potential and the promise of Stock Bridge and you being able to assume the hell. And we look forward to meeting you in person sooner rather than later, so we can talk. [0:25:04, 0:25:06]: Yes, sir. Looking forward to it. [0:25:06, 0:25:10]: Thanks. Likewise. Likewise, Mr. Gardner, look forward to working with you. [0:25:11, 0:25:17]: Um and having a strong and and healthy relationship and doing all we can to continue moving the city forward. [0:25:17, 0:25:23]: Uh I know people aren't always excited to talk to lawyers, but we do our best and and [0:25:23, 0:25:25]: Uh, look forward to working with you. [0:25:26, 0:25:29]: Same here, as long as you're not in trouble, you don't land with talking to a lawyer. [0:25:30, 0:25:31]: Yes, sir, absolutely. [0:25:32, 0:25:34]: Miss Wheeler, do you have anything you need to say, ma'am? [0:25:40, 0:25:40]: Ms. Wheeler? [0:25:45, 0:25:48]: Just want to welcome Mr. Gardner and look forward to working with him. [0:25:49, 0:25:50]: Thank you, Ms. Wheeler. Same here. [0:25:51, 0:26:11]: And Mr. Gardner, everybody's spoken but you, sir. Do you have any any closing comments? I mean, this is your staff, this is the council, all the key players and the the clerk hasn't spoken. I'm sorry. Oh Mr. Vanessa, sorry, excuse me. So sorry. So sorry. Head space and timing. Vanessa, please. I am so sorry. Thank you, Councilman Barber. [0:26:12, 0:26:17]: Mr. Gardner, welcome. I am excited for the city of Starkbridge. [0:26:17, 0:26:24]: And we look forward to the great things that you we know that you are going to do for this city. [0:26:24, 0:26:33]: We've seen your work, we know your background, and we are anxious and excited about what is going to come to the city of Stockbridge. [0:26:33, 0:26:37]: Anything that I can help you with in this office, please let me know. [0:26:38, 0:26:40]: Yes, ma'am, we'll do. Thank you. [0:26:41, 0:26:47]: Okay, that I think that's everybody that's on that I see in front of me in this case. Mr. Gardner, you sir. Any closing comments before we we say goodnight? [0:26:48, 0:26:57]: Yes, sir. I'm gonna make it real brief. I mean, I have a young nine year old that's ready to go to basketball practice, keep knocking on my door. Is the meeting over yet? Is the meeting over yet? [0:26:57, 0:26:58]: So [0:26:58, 0:27:04]: Um thank you, uh Mayor and Council. Obviously, um it's an honor and a privilege to [0:27:04, 0:27:08]: to sit in this seat here at the city of Stockbridge and it is a homecoming um [0:27:08, 0:27:25]: been a resident of Henry of Henry County and City of Stockbridge for 21 years, going on 22 years. So um, you know, it's a pleasure coming back home and being able to see the full potential of the city of Stockbridge and being part of it. Um, and so I'm looking forward to the work. [0:27:25, 0:27:28]: Looking forward to um working with the team. [0:27:28, 0:27:31]: And as I say, communication and collaboration that'll make it work. [0:27:32, 0:27:49]: And so, and as my mayor, outgoing mayor in the city of East Point City teamwork make the dream work. So definitely I'm looking forward to the team, council, staff, myself, uh moving the city in the right direction. So thank you for this opportunity and um looking forward to the work. [0:27:49, 0:28:06]: Absolutely. Congratulations once again, sir. Appreciate you being being a part of this of the staff and and watching Stockbridge grow and get even greater than it is today. Thank you for being a part of that. I know we'll do great things together along with this team of folks right here in front of you. On that note, folks, I'm going to have asked for a motion to adjourn. [0:28:06, 0:28:10]: So move. Ms. Blount, so moves. Is there a second? Mr. Thomas second is that. [0:28:11, 0:28:12]: Okay, Alan Fair, please indicate. [0:28:13, 0:28:19]: And we're out of here. God bless everybody. Take care of yourself. Happy New Year. Thank you. Happy New Year. Absolutely. Good night. [0:28:22, 0:28:22]: My

--- title: December 21 2021 Work Session Meeting date: 2021-12-21 source: 2021-12-21_December_21_2021_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:02, 0:00:03]: Yes. [0:00:07, 0:00:08]: [ 22.9, 23.3]: [0:00:30, 0:00:30]: [ 52.5, 53.3]: Yeah. [0:00:59, 0:01:00]: Mm. [0:01:38, 0:01:41]: Evening, Chief. Uh evening, Councilman Blount. [0:01:41, 0:01:42]: Miss Barber? [0:01:43, 0:01:44]: Evening. [0:01:45, 0:01:46]: Good evening, sir. Good evening, everyone. [0:01:59, 0:02:01]: Evening, Mare Pro Tem. [0:02:01, 0:02:03]: Councilman Thomas, you made it. [0:02:06, 0:02:13]: Yeah, uh yes, sir. Uh I'm I'm trying to get ready for the uh actual roll call, but I I'll be back in a short minute. [0:02:13, 0:02:16]: Well will you be able to give the invocation still, sir, or not? [0:02:20, 0:02:33]: Uh I I I would say not. Uh I'm not prepared to be on screen just yet. So okay. I'm trying to get ready for I just walked in, so I'm trying to get ready for on-screen presence. Okay, no problem. Appreciate it. [0:02:33, 0:02:34]: Hello, how you doing Kim? [0:02:43, 0:02:45]: Hello everyone. I don't mear put him. [0:02:46, 0:02:53]: Are we live yet? Are we live yet? Actually, we are live. I'm sorry, sir. We are live. I'm sorry about that. [0:02:54, 0:02:56]: Okay, I just want to mention that um [0:02:56, 0:03:00]: I had death in the family today and um I'm running, I'm getting home late. [0:03:01, 0:03:03]: Uh but that is the only reason why that um [0:03:04, 0:03:05]: I'm just running late. [0:03:05, 0:03:11]: All right, no problem. But but we are live. Uh Mare Pro Tem, can can I I know it's late. Can I ask you to give the invocation this evening? [0:03:11, 0:03:13]: Sure, go right sure, I think. [0:03:13, 0:03:15]: Okay, I appreciate it. Thank you very much. [0:03:15, 0:03:16]: Mm. [0:03:17, 0:03:21]: And actually, what do we have here? We got six o'clock, but we don't have our [0:03:21, 0:03:23]: Attorneys. [0:03:25, 0:03:27]: And we have a [0:03:28, 0:03:29]: Quorum. [0:03:34, 0:03:39]: Ms. Holiday, I've I'm assuming that the the attorneys did get the link for the this meeting this evening. [0:03:39, 0:03:41]: Okay, thank you. [0:03:53, 0:03:54]: Wow. [0:04:19, 0:04:20]: Hmm. [0:04:25, 0:04:26]: [272.4, 275.8]: I know we do have a quorum, but I'm looking for their attorneys to arrive. [0:04:42, 0:04:47]: I just asked IT if he can send them a a separate individual link. [0:04:47, 0:04:49]: Appreciate that. Thank you. [0:04:53, 0:04:55]: Any additional state action. I mean [0:05:27, 0:05:29]: Ms. Holliday, are you still on the line? [0:05:35, 0:05:38]: Mr. Blount, she's uh she's online. [0:05:39, 0:05:40]: And um [0:05:41, 0:05:43]: Yeah, Mr. Blount, did you need something? [0:05:43, 0:05:52]: Yeah, good evening. How are you? Um do you do you recall do you remember the date that the actual agenda that was sent through the email, the actual email date on that? Do you remember? [0:05:53, 0:05:54]: Do you recall that date? [0:05:55, 0:05:56]: For this meeting. [0:05:56, 0:06:05]: Yes, the the actual email date. No, I would have to check you because you know Randy Rainey sends that out. So I would have to actually check the sent email. [0:06:05, 0:06:07]: Oh, December. [0:06:08, 0:06:09]: December the sixteenth. [0:06:10, 0:06:12]: All right. Thank you, sir. Okay. [0:06:14, 0:06:26]: Okay, Ms. Halley, I received a message from the attorneys. They have not received a link. Um Okay, I received a message from IT that it's been reset again. So I don't know what the issue is. [0:06:27, 0:06:27]: Okay. [0:06:32, 0:06:36]: Let's see. S I T on the call. Oh yeah, he's there. He's present. [0:06:37, 0:06:37]: He hears you. [0:06:38, 0:06:42]: All right, Robert. Did you hear that that the attorneys have not received the link? [0:06:44, 0:06:46]: Yes, I just resent with U two C C'd. [0:06:48, 0:06:50]: [423.9, 424.8]: Oh, here we go. [0:07:08, 0:07:10]: Welcome, Mr. Washington. [0:07:12, 0:07:13]: Didn't even I'll I'll I [0:07:14, 0:07:17]: Good evening. I'll turn the Facebook uh off here. [0:07:18, 0:07:20]: All right, and uh [0:07:20, 0:07:26]: And Jeremy, he's uh Mr. Berry is online as well. Okay. Good deal. Thank you, sir. [0:07:26, 0:07:46]: All right. What I'd like to do, ladies and gentlemen, is call our city council work session. And this is March 21st, excuse me, December. December 21st of 2021. Oh my gosh. And uh I have actually uh 604. Uh so the meeting would like to call it the order. Um [0:07:46, 0:07:49]: Ms. Holiday, the roll call please. [0:07:53, 0:07:55]: Mayor Ford? Present. [0:07:55, 0:07:56]: We approach him Alexander. [0:07:57, 0:07:57]: Present. [0:07:57, 0:07:58]: Councilwoman Barber. [0:07:59, 0:07:59]: That's it. [0:08:00, 0:08:01]: Councilman Blount. [0:08:01, 0:08:02]: Present. [0:08:02, 0:08:03]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:08:06, 0:08:10]: Let the record reflect Councilwoman Gantt is not in attendance. Councilman Thomas. [0:08:12, 0:08:13]: President. [0:08:14, 0:08:16]: Thank you, Mayor Ford. Do you have a quorum? [0:08:16, 0:08:17]: Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate it. [0:08:18, 0:08:21]: Um Mayor Pro Tem, could you get an invocation, please? [0:08:21, 0:08:23]: Will everyone bow your heads, please? [0:08:25, 0:08:27]: I just want to thank God. [0:08:27, 0:08:29]: for being able to be a blessing. [0:08:30, 0:08:33]: I want this entire council mayor and council. [0:08:33, 0:08:34]: To be so thankful. [0:08:34, 0:08:38]: That God has gifted us with the ability to bless others. [0:08:39, 0:08:40]: Our decisions. [0:08:40, 0:08:43]: And our vision and our wisdom and our leadership. [0:08:43, 0:08:47]: are God given. Those are talents that He's granted us all. [0:08:47, 0:08:49]: But I want to focus on today. [0:08:50, 0:08:52]: Our ability to be a blessing for others. [0:08:53, 0:08:57]: Uh, with the philanthropic activity over the weekend with so many of us taking place. [0:08:58, 0:09:00]: Uh with Linda Jones and feeding God's people. [0:09:01, 0:09:05]: Our toy drive, our community development for real people toy drive. [0:09:05, 0:09:08]: Those are that's what community is all about. [0:09:08, 0:09:13]: Uh the Shaka Claus event, the Shaquille O'Neal took place in the sheriff's office. [0:09:13, 0:09:17]: All of us touch the community in some way, in a philanthropic way. [0:09:18, 0:09:20]: When the true giving [0:09:20, 0:09:22]: And caring of a community. [0:09:22, 0:09:25]: Are composed of what we can do for each other. [0:09:26, 0:09:27]: As our brother's keeper. [0:09:27, 0:09:35]: Thank God for giving us the strength, the guidance, and the sustenance to be able to impact others and be a blessing to others. [0:09:36, 0:09:38]: Let the decisions that we make tonight. [0:09:38, 0:09:42]: Impact be impactful and positive for this community. [0:09:43, 0:09:44]: As we're granted. [0:09:44, 0:09:45]: Uh leadership. [0:09:45, 0:09:48]: uh through the empowerment of the people. [0:09:48, 0:09:53]: the people, for the people, to the people, we are the people and for the people. [0:09:53, 0:09:57]: Thank you so much for spreading the joy and love and companionship. [0:09:58, 0:09:59]: That we have [0:09:59, 0:10:01]: uh in this season and this time. [0:10:01, 0:10:03]: That the Lord has blessed us with. [0:10:03, 0:10:05]: Tonight I am so thankful. [0:10:05, 0:10:08]: to everybody and to every member of this community. [0:10:08, 0:10:11]: is blessed to bless somebody else. [0:10:11, 0:10:14]: And please continue to guide us so we're able to do that. [0:10:14, 0:10:17]: with every action that we make in this meeting tonight. [0:10:17, 0:10:18]: Amen. [0:10:18, 0:10:19]: Amen. [0:10:20, 0:10:22]: Can we please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance? [0:10:25, 0:10:40]: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. One nation under God with liberty and justice for all. [0:10:41, 0:10:42]: Okay. [0:10:43, 0:10:48]: I council, I need the uh motion to actually amend the agenda. [0:10:48, 0:10:52]: And what I like to request is that item number ten that deals with the [0:10:53, 0:11:06]: uh contract to johnson control security solutions that it'd be uh removed from the agenda for further for for additional information and further uh thought process and and for additional time to uh bring it back. [0:11:08, 0:11:10]: So move Zero Second. [0:11:12, 0:11:14]: Miss Barber Secondsad. All in favor, please indicate. [0:11:15, 0:11:35]: Uh okay, thank you very much. I appreciate it. Once again, I'd like to also make another um a recommendation for to amend the agenda. Uh this will actually be the actual downtown development authority. The DDA chair has requested uh that they re-remove this and they wanted to bring this. [0:11:35, 0:11:45]: back i believe it's one month later and they want to do some time have some time to talk over with the the rest of the uh members of the of the development authority just want to bring that forward is [0:11:45, 0:11:47]: Is uh can we uh take this off as well? [0:11:48, 0:11:51]: Yes, some of what item number is that, Mayor Ford? [0:11:52, 0:11:56]: That is that is the no oh item number that would be item number twenty. [0:11:56, 0:11:57]: Okay. [0:11:57, 0:12:00]: I number twenty. She says so moves our second. [0:12:01, 0:12:01]: Uh [0:12:02, 0:12:05]: I thought Barber, you made the motion, right? You just so move? [0:12:05, 0:12:06]: Is there a second? [0:12:09, 0:12:14]: Okay. Okay, Mr. Airport temp second that all in favor, please indicate. [0:12:15, 0:12:20]: Aye. Okay. Oppose? Abstain? [0:12:21, 0:12:25]: Well I don't ms Mr. Blount, do you stain? Is that what that means? [0:12:26, 0:12:28]: I got three votes for Mr. Blount. [0:12:30, 0:12:33]: You you I can't hear you, so you're you're muted. [0:12:36, 0:12:40]: I say I'm fine with fine with that man. Okay. [0:12:41, 0:13:01]: All right, I have one other recommendation for the uh for amendment, and that would be number item to be added added to the agenda and item number 30. And this deals with the actual tasers for the police department. Chief Kramer wants to bring this forward. I believe you all received information about it. So he wants to add this to the agenda, which would be the last item um of the [0:13:01, 0:13:05]: evening. Um so is there a motion to uh to add this item? [0:13:06, 0:13:07]: Саму. [0:13:07, 0:13:09]: Okay, Miss Barber move. Is there a second? [0:13:10, 0:13:13]: Sir Mayor Putem second that all in favor, please indicate. [0:13:14, 0:13:16]: Okay, I got a quick question. [0:13:17, 0:13:18]: Yes, sir. [0:13:19, 0:13:30]: Uh Chief, is there is there gonna be like a line item of different things you're gonna need? Because I I'm just saying so we wouldn't like taser now this later that if all if all is gonna be covered on the opera funding. [0:13:30, 0:13:38]: Is there a list that you can a composed list of everything that you need? And we can kind of do that in one swoop instead of kind of piecing it off. [0:13:39, 0:13:41]: Yeah, we were actually uh [0:13:41, 0:13:45]: Discussing some some options for that, obviously um [0:13:45, 0:13:52]: bringing all these items before the council uh week to week. I did supply uh Mr. Berry with a list of items that we anticipate uh purchasing. [0:13:53, 0:13:56]: So to answer your question, the short answer is yes, we do have a list of these things. [0:13:57, 0:14:02]: Um it just be based on the consensus of the council to what degree they want to do that in one. [0:14:02, 0:14:03]: Um [0:14:04, 0:14:05]: You know, one [0:14:07, 0:14:08]: Presentation. [0:14:08, 0:14:14]: Because within that presentation we may not know the exact dollar amounts. Um so some of these are going to be [0:14:15, 0:14:23]: uh contingent upon receiving the actual uh the actual financial exact figures from the vendors for the acquisition of the equipment. [0:14:24, 0:14:33]: And the reason I'm asking that chief is but because if we if we start to do it this way, then you're gonna only be move moving. [0:14:33, 0:14:41]: twice a month or special call meetings when we could try to move things a little further on that you need to be doing and that way it could kind of [0:14:41, 0:15:00]: uh move things a little quicker. That uh whatever you have that you do know, if we can just put that in one uh itemized agenda if the council so will that that way we can uh have it all down those items that you do have the amounts on. That way we won't have to keep uh breaking it off like that. I just thought it would be better like that. Uh [0:15:00, 0:15:06]: For that council. If that's the if that's the wish of the council, that would be our preference as well. [0:15:06, 0:15:07]: And um [0:15:08, 0:15:12]: Of course, subject to appropriate betting by legal and procurement. [0:15:12, 0:15:17]: uh for these purchases which can be done after the fact. So council could approve these. [0:15:17, 0:15:20]: purchases on the front end up to a [0:15:20, 0:15:22]: certain dollar amount. [0:15:22, 0:15:26]: And uh we could ratify those at a subsequent council meeting. [0:15:27, 0:15:31]: And I would say to you that this this discussion that you're dealing with right now, Mr. [0:15:32, 0:15:42]: uh councilman blood and and the chief here for everybody's that we're gonna be able to talk about this a little later on in the agenda. So it's it's set that way. So what your concern is is going to come up in the agenda anyway for further discussion. [0:15:43, 0:15:47]: So on that note, the motion has been made, been seconded. So all in favor of motion, please indicate. [0:15:49, 0:15:56]: I got two, three. Okay. That's unanimous decision. Okay. Appreciate that. Now I need a motion to adopt the overall agenda, please. [0:15:56, 0:15:56]: Or [0:15:57, 0:15:57]: Yes, ma'am. [0:15:58, 0:16:02]: I'd like to amend the agenda to tame table three items. [0:16:03, 0:16:05]: This is item number 18. [0:16:07, 0:16:09]: Item number twenty four and twenty six. [0:16:13, 0:16:14]: You said eighteen. [0:16:15, 0:16:22]: 18 council consideration to approve green room community policy and fee schedule. Uh-huh. [0:16:22, 0:16:35]: Item 24, council consideration to grant the chief of police the authority to implement andor amend police department policies and procedures with with review by legal counsel as appropriate. [0:16:36, 0:16:37]: A second. [0:16:38, 0:16:42]: Okay, what you said eighteen, twenty four. What I thought was a third one. I must have I thought it was [0:16:42, 0:16:43]: Um [0:16:43, 0:16:55]: Council consideration to temporarily waive spending authority limits to authorize the city manager to approve police department startup purchases, not to exceed designated amount, so forth. [0:16:56, 0:16:57]: And what number is that now? [0:16:57, 0:16:58]: That's twenty six. [0:16:59, 0:17:00]: Twenty six. [0:17:02, 0:17:11]: All right, you made that motion to uh to amend the agenda to take those items off. Uh and uh Councilman Thomas uh second that motion. [0:17:12, 0:17:13]: Okay. [0:17:13, 0:17:16]: All right, motion has been made in a second. All in favor, please indicate. [0:17:16, 0:17:17]: Discussion [0:17:18, 0:17:18]: All right. [0:17:20, 0:17:21]: Discussion. [0:17:21, 0:17:31]: Well, okay. Stand by. The the only thing the only only thing I like to see on these items is that I support them. I just want to make sure that the public is understanding. [0:17:32, 0:17:34]: why we're doing what we're doing. [0:17:34, 0:17:37]: So if we could explain to the public why we're doing what we're doing. [0:17:37, 0:17:39]: I'm okay with it because I think [0:17:40, 0:17:41]: The methodology [0:17:41, 0:17:47]: And the understanding sh the public should always have the understanding on why we make a move. [0:17:49, 0:17:49]: Okay. [0:17:50, 0:17:56]: So if if if if we could just give the public a explanation on on the on the thought process behind [0:17:56, 0:18:03]: These items being moved, I think we can move right along fairly quickly. All right. Uh councilman Thomas, you got your hand up. I guess you want to explain it, sir. [0:18:03, 0:18:07]: Well, I I just have a comment. I don't know if I can explain it. I I I [0:18:08, 0:18:09]: I can explain my position. [0:18:09, 0:18:11]: Uh I'll second it. [0:18:11, 0:18:12]: Um [0:18:14, 0:18:15]: My vote. [0:18:16, 0:18:18]: Was a vote of three. [0:18:19, 0:18:22]: That established the Styridge Police Department. [0:18:23, 0:18:29]: Uh I I I voted for the police department based on uh [0:18:29, 0:18:31]: You know, the the needs. [0:18:32, 0:18:34]: The data, the facts. [0:18:35, 0:18:35]: And [0:18:36, 0:18:38]: The principles that I believe that [0:18:38, 0:18:40]: Uh, we needed the Polish department. [0:18:41, 0:18:44]: So in and second in this motion. [0:18:45, 0:18:48]: I still stand on those principles. [0:18:48, 0:18:50]: Um, it is my belief. [0:18:51, 0:18:57]: And I and I support all of these things and I continue to support support uh the Stockbridge Police Department. [0:18:58, 0:19:00]: But I do believe. [0:19:00, 0:19:01]: That [0:19:01, 0:19:03]: In a couple of weeks. [0:19:03, 0:19:05]: Uh the city manager will be on board. [0:19:06, 0:19:09]: And it is my belief that the city manager. [0:19:10, 0:19:11]: Need to be involved. [0:19:12, 0:19:15]: uh in this discussion he need to have some input. [0:19:15, 0:19:17]: Uh, for me going forward. [0:19:17, 0:19:19]: I'm about holing. [0:19:19, 0:19:20]: Everyone [0:19:21, 0:19:22]: Accountable. [0:19:22, 0:19:24]: All departments accountable. [0:19:25, 0:19:28]: I will be holding the new city manager accountable. [0:19:28, 0:19:31]: And so I just want to make sure. [0:19:31, 0:19:43]: that he has an opportunity to uh meet with the chief. Uh they discuss these things and and he may very well approve of everything the chief is trying to do. [0:19:43, 0:19:45]: So my point is opportunity. [0:19:46, 0:19:50]: Um if he was not ha if he had not been approved. [0:19:50, 0:19:52]: then I I wouldn't be in this position. [0:19:52, 0:20:02]: But the fact that he has been approved and he will be here in two weeks, uh and he has he has the experience, he has uh uh [0:20:03, 0:20:10]: directed uh two police departments in and two jurisdictions. So I know he comes in with experience. [0:20:10, 0:20:17]: So based it just on those facts, um, I'm talking about giving the new city manager an opportunity. [0:20:17, 0:20:18]: I would not [0:20:19, 0:20:22]: want to pull the rug out from under him and again [0:20:22, 0:20:26]: Uh I I am going to make sure for my position. [0:20:27, 0:20:33]: That he is accountable to everything, all directors. And and just let me say also. [0:20:33, 0:20:34]: Um [0:20:34, 0:20:38]: All departments are the same to me. All departments. [0:20:38, 0:20:58]: All department heads, they are accountable for everything that triggered down from that department. And that's my position with everything. I don't distinguish between one department or one um director from the other. They're all the same. They all has to be accountable, including the new city manager coming in. [0:20:58, 0:21:00]: So my position is [0:21:00, 0:21:11]: Let's just give the uh new city manager an opportunity to get in and and you know, like I say, he may as well um, you know, be in favor of all of this, but it's just about an opportunity. [0:21:12, 0:21:16]: Thank you so much. Okay, Semma, Councilman Thomas, clarification. [0:21:16, 0:21:35]: uh Frederick Gardner is a sole finalist. There's a 14-day period. After that 14-day period by law, then we will meet again and formally appoint him uh to the position. I would think it would it would it would everything work fine, but he's he's just a sole finalist at this point. Uh but I understand your understand your comments, sir sir. Just want to [0:21:35, 0:21:46]: put that point of clarification there. Uh Mayor Putin, you want to say something else, sir? Yeah, I I thought that was very helpful and I'm totally in agreement with that because we want to empower the city manager to be able to [0:21:47, 0:21:48]: Uh run the city. [0:21:48, 0:21:52]: And that is their charge and their job to make sure that they do that. [0:21:52, 0:21:54]: And any decision that is made. [0:21:55, 0:21:57]: should have them sign off on it because [0:21:58, 0:21:58]: In the end [0:21:59, 0:22:06]: 20 its results. And in the end, the city manager and the police chief are going to be graded and they need to be [0:22:06, 0:22:16]: They need to be uh be uh in synergy and they need to see eye to eye on what these policies are going to be because overall they're gonna decide the success or failure. [0:22:17, 0:22:21]: uh of these uh t particular city initiatives so [0:22:21, 0:22:24]: I I think that I'm perfectly agreeable with [0:22:24, 0:22:26]: Making sure that the city manager [0:22:26, 0:22:28]: uh signs off on these items. [0:22:29, 0:22:42]: any other comments on this. So right now, if not right now, we have a motion on the floor to take to take off uh items number 18, 24, and 26. Okay. [0:22:44, 0:22:46]: Okay, all in favor of that motion, please indicate. [0:22:48, 0:22:54]: All right, that's unanimous decision. Okay, those items do come off. All right. Now I need a motion. Yes, yes, sir, Mr. Blount. [0:22:54, 0:23:00]: I'm sorry. So where does that leave us in terms of items on the agenda? Is that twenty four? [0:23:01, 0:23:08]: twenty four just came off. Eighteen, twenty-four, and twenty-six just came off. [0:23:09, 0:23:10]: Well, I'll have to add'em up. [0:23:11, 0:23:25]: Uh let's see here. We got the public here. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve. Pardon. [0:23:26, 0:23:28]: I got I count 17 if my count's right. [0:23:31, 0:23:32]: And I'm a yes, sir. [0:23:34, 0:23:38]: Well, I I have a question before I ask for an uh this amendment. [0:23:38, 0:23:42]: Um with the item number twenty seven and twenty eight. [0:23:43, 0:23:47]: Um we understand and twenty nine, we understand that they're gonna be opera funded. [0:23:47, 0:23:50]: Um but we have an amount for twenty [0:23:51, 0:23:53]: Uh nine that's posted. [0:23:53, 0:23:54]: Um [0:23:54, 0:23:59]: Well, we have an upcoming amount for twenty seven and twenty uh eight. [0:23:59, 0:24:07]: Um, I don't see those amounts. Well, that's all prefunded, so I would think that's part of the presentation that uh Chief Tramer would give. [0:24:07, 0:24:12]: Well, that's the the question I'm asking is is he already does he already have those amounts because they're not listed here? [0:24:13, 0:24:16]: Okay, I see him nodding his head. Yes, is I'm assuming that's it's affirmative. [0:24:17, 0:24:22]: Is that if is that I'm I'm uh Chief, you need to answer that right now, sir, or not? [0:24:22, 0:24:25]: No, there there there are funding amounts. Um [0:24:26, 0:24:31]: Uh uh Miss Holliday, was any supplemental documentation sent to council with the updated amounts? [0:24:32, 0:24:39]: They're not referring to your uh attachments. They're referring to what was entered uh into the system and apparently [0:24:39, 0:24:40]: Um [0:24:42, 0:24:48]: The person that entered them did not include the dollar amount. So if you have those, we can add those to the agenda for. [0:24:49, 0:24:50]: Council to know that. [0:24:50, 0:24:52]: number now, Mr. Tramer. [0:24:55, 0:24:59]: Okay. If if you would like I could speak those numbers into the um [0:25:00, 0:25:01]: Into the record. [0:25:03, 0:25:16]: Uh that uh that's fine if you uh if you have a number you can and do it. I would I would I would think I would think you if he has the numbers, he'll be able to give those numbers at the presentation itself. I'm fine with that. I just didn't I just didn't have anything pertaining to those numbers, Mayor. Okay. [0:25:17, 0:25:22]: See if you bring those numbers when it comes to your that item discussed, you you give us those numbers at that point. It'd be part of your presentation. [0:25:23, 0:25:39]: Yes, sir. All right. So I I count at least 17 items, uh, Ms. Barber. I mean, so I'm looking forward to I mean, I hope that answers your question. Uh okay, I'm looking forward to amendments, excuse me, to uh to uh to adopt the uh the amended agenda. [0:25:39, 0:25:42]: All right. I need adopt a minute agenda as as stated. [0:25:42, 0:25:43]: Is there is they're so moved. [0:25:44, 0:25:46]: So moved. Okay, Ms. Barber, is there a second? [0:25:47, 0:25:50]: Second. Okay. Mayor Protein. Second, then all favor, please indicate. [0:25:52, 0:25:56]: Okay, I've got uh okay, so now she says okay, now on that note. [0:25:57, 0:26:17]: Mayor, one one more quick, quick one, if you don't mind. Um, I would like for the council to uh we've looked at discussions in several cities, uh including the county, that the that this uh council would either do as a discussion this is uh discussion or to consider an amount that we would do um during [0:26:17, 0:26:22]: these time we we're gonna be receiving over um eleven million dollars of ARPA funding. [0:26:22, 0:26:42]: And we do have uh there's an increase and I know that we've done uh what we do in the end of the year for the employees, I I believe that we should put an incentive out there to our employees during these times, uh portion of that opera fund, even if it's not with$500 per employee, uh and with those that have had uh vaccinated and and an incentive for those to get vaccinated. [0:26:42, 0:26:45]: Uh, I like for council to have that type of discussion. [0:26:45, 0:26:48]: Uh, we only have eighty something employees in that uh [0:26:48, 0:26:59]: We're we're we're we're not even talking uh we're not even talking fifty thousand dollars out of over eleven million dollars of funding that we're gonna be getting. So I would like the council to have some type of discussion of [0:26:59, 0:27:04]: some type of incentive to get to the employees uh pertaining to uh [0:27:04, 0:27:12]: vaccinations uh and to an incentive for those that are vaccinated already. Are you looking to have that discussion at the following meeting? [0:27:12, 0:27:14]: So because we already just adopted the agenda. [0:27:15, 0:27:22]: Uh the agendas w we're we're going through amendings right now. Well we just we just we we just went to [0:27:22, 0:27:32]: We just didn't approve an amendment to the agenda. Well, we we pro approved and we should approved the entire agenda. That's what I was getting at. We went through several amendments. Now it's uh was approving the rest of the agenda so we can go forward. [0:27:33, 0:27:48]: I believe that's what I asked for. You just you I'm forgiving that noise. You just approved several amendments to the agenda. What I'm saying, we haven't adopted total agenda. I thought I just asked for that just a second ago. Ms. Clerk, what what what did we just vote on, Plam? [0:27:49, 0:27:54]: You voted um to adopt the agenda um for zero, but [0:27:55, 0:28:15]: At any time you can make an amendment. So I thought I thought we adopted, we just adopted and rested uh the overall agenda now after making all those amendments. But you want to add now something else in reference to discussion uh of this in reference to ARPA funds and additional funding incentives for uh I guess our employees, which we have not had any time. [0:28:14, 0:28:17]: type of background information I don't think on this. [0:28:17, 0:28:20]: or uh data or a thought process uh [0:28:21, 0:28:25]: So well well Merritt, the the back the background information is that [0:28:25, 0:28:31]: incentives through several cities are uh separate cities are given these incentives because they are receiving offer funding. [0:28:31, 0:28:47]: Uh you and if you if you looked at the news today, there's a discussion even in the Henry County. I'm talking for the city of Stockbridge. I'm talking about us giving our employees at least$500 incentives for those that are vaccinated and uh uh and those that are working during these times of this pandemic. [0:28:47, 0:28:53]: Uh out of author funding, which not even won't even total over fifty thousand dollars and we're getting over eleven million dollars of funding from author. [0:28:55, 0:28:59]: I see. Mayor uh Councilman Thomas, go ahead, please. [0:28:59, 0:29:06]: I'm I'm I'm sorry, Miss Barber. I didn't see your hand. Mr. Thomas, stand by. Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [0:29:07, 0:29:11]: I'll yield a councilman Thomas. Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. [0:29:11, 0:29:15]: I I I I don't have a a problem with that, but what I would prefer [0:29:15, 0:29:18]: Uh for the treasurer to [0:29:19, 0:29:22]: uh pull some numbers. I know that um [0:29:22, 0:29:31]: The police department have used some of that funding source. I know Public Works has used some of that funding source. [0:29:31, 0:29:37]: um for the allocation for this year I do understand that that will be um [0:29:39, 0:29:59]: Uh, I'm not sure if that's gonna be another allocation uh in 2022 or going forward, but I'd like for the treasurer to um give us some data uh before we make that kind of decision. And hopefully if if the council is willing to entertain this discussion and if if it's agenda item 31. [0:29:58, 0:30:01]: I think by that time if the treasure could um [0:30:02, 0:30:05]: um, you know, pull the numbers together so we can so we can sort of [0:30:06, 0:30:06]: Um [0:30:06, 0:30:08]: Sort of know what we're dealing with. [0:30:10, 0:30:12]: Yeah, I can give you some numbers now. [0:30:13, 0:30:14]: Well, I I don't wanna [0:30:14, 0:30:20]: Tied a meeting up. Uh well anyway, Mayor, it I I'm gonna yield back to you. Okay, thank you. Miss Barber, you had a comment, ma'am? [0:30:22, 0:30:23]: Yeah, never mind. I just [0:30:24, 0:30:31]: Okay. Well, the whole point was to add it to the agenda. Second. Let's add it to the agenda and then let's move on. [0:30:32, 0:30:33]: Okay. [0:30:33, 0:30:40]: So so miss make sure we understand this right. Mr. Blount, you want to make a a formal motion because I'm not make sure the clerks got this down right. [0:30:40, 0:30:41]: What's your motion, sir? [0:30:41, 0:30:52]: From a motion to add a discussion for um funding or for opera funding to go as an incentive to our employees uh agenda item 31 to be determined by the council. [0:30:53, 0:30:55]: All right. All in favor, please indicate. [0:30:56, 0:30:58]: All right. So it'll be item number thirty one. [0:31:03, 0:31:03]: Mm-hmm. [0:31:04, 0:31:09]: Let's keep it moving tonight, y'all. It don't have to be long-winded. Just second. [0:31:11, 0:31:21]: All right, on that note, uh what we have before you adoption of the minutes. Just so happens that last meeting we did not approve these particular minutes. So that's the draft retreat minutes from the September 15th. [0:31:22, 0:31:29]: Draft retreat minutes from uh uh six September 16th and also the 17th. Special call meeting minutes from September 20th. [0:31:30, 0:31:38]: Council meeting minutes from uh October 11th, work session meeting uh minutes from October 26th, draft minutes um [0:31:39, 0:31:47]: From November 8th and draft minutes from um November 30th. Need a motion to accept all these particular minutes, folks. [0:31:47, 0:31:51]: Okay. So move Mayor potent okay. Okay. So move Mayor uh uh [0:31:51, 0:31:55]: Barber, uh second to uh Alexander, all favor, please indicate. [0:31:58, 0:32:00]: Okay. Okay. See now it's okay. Good deal. [0:32:01, 0:32:03]: Miss Holiday, any public comments? [0:32:03, 0:32:13]: There are no public comments, Mayor. All right, great. Now we'll go on to old business and that is a continuation of our public hearing involving the third reading as it continues. [0:32:13, 0:32:17]: uh with the adoption of the budget for twenty twenty two. [0:32:17, 0:32:20]: On that note, uh Mr. Wiggins. [0:32:20, 0:32:20]: Sir. [0:32:24, 0:32:25]: Okay, Mayor. Um [0:32:26, 0:32:27]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. [0:32:28, 0:32:29]: Um [0:32:29, 0:32:31]: I'm gonna try to share my screen here. [0:32:38, 0:32:38]: Okay. [0:32:39, 0:32:40]: Can everybody see that? [0:32:41, 0:32:41]: Couple. [0:32:41, 0:32:42]: We can. [0:32:43, 0:32:44]: All right. [0:32:46, 0:32:50]: This is the uh city of stockbridge proposed FY twenty twenty two. [0:32:50, 0:32:53]: Budget hearing, third reading, continuation. [0:32:53, 0:32:55]: For December twenty first. [0:32:55, 0:32:56]: Twenty twenty one. [0:32:57, 0:32:58]: Um [0:32:59, 0:33:00]: From the last meeting. [0:33:01, 0:33:04]: We had some changes. Uh council went through and made some changes. [0:33:05, 0:33:07]: All the changes have been put through uh [0:33:09, 0:33:13]: With those changes, we now have general fund at eighteen [0:33:13, 0:33:17]: Million three hundred eighty thousand nine hundred and ninety three dollars and twelve cents. [0:33:18, 0:33:21]: Enterprise funds come at twenty five million. [0:33:22, 0:33:23]: One hundred and sixty four. [0:33:24, 0:33:27]: Thousand seven hundred and sixty eight dollars and ninety five cents. [0:33:27, 0:33:28]: We have a total [0:33:29, 0:33:33]: For the budget, it's forty three million five hundred forty five dollars seventy two. [0:33:34, 0:33:35]: Dollars and seven cents. [0:33:36, 0:33:36]: Mayor. [0:33:37, 0:33:37]: Yes, sir. [0:33:38, 0:33:45]: See, see, Mr. Wiggins, this is the problem that I have. We're talking about the general fund budget. That's what we're talking about. [0:33:46, 0:33:58]: This confuses people saying putting the enterprise number up there. We're talk the budget we're talking about right now is the general fund budget. That budget is$18 million. [0:33:58, 0:34:18]: We need to be comparing apples to apples. We never talk about the budget in terms of this uh lumped-in number. Every year we talk about the budget in terms of the general fund number. That is the number that the public needs to see and focus on because that's what we're talking about in terms of uh balancing the balanced budget each year. [0:34:18, 0:34:22]: year is the general fund number and it confuses folks. [0:34:22, 0:34:25]: Казлас метін. [0:34:25, 0:34:34]: It was a discussion that said, Oh, we went from 18 million to four from twelve million to forty-three million. No, we didn't, because we don't ever really talk about. [0:34:34, 0:34:37]: The enterprise budget in this context. [0:34:37, 0:34:38]: But at the uh total [0:34:38, 0:34:42]: uh budgetary meeting. So the public needs to understand [0:34:42, 0:34:44]: We're talking about the gender role. [0:34:44, 0:34:48]: fun budget year to year tonight. That's what we're talking about. [0:34:52, 0:34:56]: All right, and then I understand that councilman, but when you're trying to approve [0:34:57, 0:35:00]: the budget, you need to hear the whole the total budget to approve it. [0:35:02, 0:35:06]: Not just the journal fund, even though the journal fund is the main fund that's always talked about. [0:35:07, 0:35:10]: In this particular discussion, you always want to try to prove [0:35:10, 0:35:11]: The total budget. [0:35:12, 0:35:12]: Go on. [0:35:13, 0:35:16]: Right, we're approving the general fund budget tonight, is that correct? [0:35:17, 0:35:19]: No, you're approving the whole budget. [0:35:20, 0:35:23]: Right, but the focus of this is the general fund budget. [0:35:24, 0:35:27]: Okay, well I I can focus on nothing but the journal fund there. [0:35:28, 0:35:33]: Is that the consent of the rest of the council? Is that what you want? Yes, sir. [0:35:33, 0:35:39]: If we're going to focus on a general fund budget, then where's the presentation with just the general fund budget? [0:35:39, 0:35:41]: I agree with that too. [0:35:42, 0:35:42]: Yeah. [0:35:43, 0:35:52]: Well I've I I would imagine that that's not what the the uh Mr. Wiggins as a as a treasurer is going through the entire budget is what how he for sees it, what he needs to do. [0:35:53, 0:35:53]: Yeah. [0:35:54, 0:35:57]: Yeah, Mary, I'm sorry to cut you up because if we're gonna break this down. [0:35:58, 0:35:59]: We're still breaking down. [0:36:00, 0:36:08]: The 43 plus million dollars. If we're gonna break down the general fund budget, then find and then we we look at the avenues where we can get. [0:36:09, 0:36:12]: The focus tonight and what the citizens want to see. [0:36:12, 0:36:18]: Is I agree they want to see first of all, we can go with the overall budget. [0:36:18, 0:36:25]: But then let's go in increments. Let's break the general fund budget down and find out how do we come to an agreement. [0:36:25, 0:36:40]: on the general fund budget, and then we expand out through the overall budget with all the other entities and and parameters of that. Uh there has to be a progression of this shown versus this impact that we're seeing now. [0:36:40, 0:36:41]: Okay. [0:36:42, 0:36:46]: So Ms. Wiggins, on that note, can you can pr you can explain the budget this way for twenty twenty two? [0:36:47, 0:36:51]: Right right now I have showing just the general fund changes. [0:36:51, 0:36:54]: Okay. So we can just go through the general fund changes. [0:36:54, 0:36:59]: All right, go ahead. Right if I could f follow up on that. That's exactly what I'm saying. [0:36:59, 0:37:11]: That first number gives a uh uh a a uh distortion because there's no document or anything following up on that. All there is is the general fund. So let's stick with this. Thank you. [0:37:13, 0:37:15]: Ms. Barber, you have a question? [0:37:16, 0:37:20]: Um actually I wanted to make a motion. There are [0:37:20, 0:37:22]: Several changes that I'd like [0:37:22, 0:37:25]: Um to vote on really quickly. [0:37:25, 0:37:27]: And it returns to the virgin one. [0:37:27, 0:37:28]: All right, dude. [0:37:30, 0:37:31]: And I know this is the [0:37:31, 0:37:32]: Yeah. [0:37:32, 0:37:33]: But if [0:37:34, 0:37:38]: My councilmates will just indulge me just for a minute. [0:37:38, 0:37:41]: Um, I'd like to make a motion to add an employee and volunteer. [0:37:41, 0:37:43]: Recognition lunches. [0:37:44, 0:37:44]: Um [0:37:45, 0:37:46]: Next year in December. [0:37:47, 0:37:49]: Uh with the budget amount of [0:37:50, 0:37:51]: Twenty thousand dollars. [0:37:54, 0:38:02]: Well, let me let me mention this. We typically, it wasn't for the pandemic, we typically have a luncheon for employees. Now I don't I doubt very soon it's been twenty thousand dollars. [0:38:02, 0:38:05]: Yeah, I don't think it's been that much, but we typically do that anyway. [0:38:05, 0:38:08]: Uh and that's when we when we do that. [0:38:09, 0:38:10]: Mr. Wayne. [0:38:10, 0:38:12]: Is that in the budget? I'd like to um fund that. [0:38:13, 0:38:14]: And make sure. [0:38:16, 0:38:18]: These are great questions that [0:38:18, 0:38:20]: You're saying uh far as the luncheon. [0:38:20, 0:38:25]: Yes. Yeah, we normally you we normally uh will have the luncheon in um [0:38:25, 0:38:27]: Where would I find that in the budget? [0:38:27, 0:38:30]: Uh you have to look up on the um [0:38:31, 0:38:33]: The executive budget. [0:38:33, 0:38:35]: And um I have to look on sometimes [0:38:35, 0:38:38]: We put money in there for the and and through HR. [0:38:40, 0:38:40]: Hospitality. [0:38:42, 0:38:48]: And then I want to ensure that there is money allocated for it. So I'd like to make a motion for it. Is that okay? [0:38:50, 0:38:51]: But it [0:38:51, 0:38:52]: So [0:38:52, 0:39:02]: What I'm getting at, we have we haven't we typically have that anyway. We have that I I I don't think it's twenty thousand dollars, but we typically have a a a a a holiday um [0:39:03, 0:39:08]: Lunching for all the employees. And this year we had something similar. [0:39:08, 0:39:10]: You're talking about volunteer recognition for [0:39:11, 0:39:15]: Oh o of the people that are not employees. Is that what you're referring to? For us to continue that. [0:39:16, 0:39:16]: I'm sorry. [0:39:17, 0:39:20]: For employees and волонтерs. [0:39:21, 0:39:22]: Oh, the Tio. [0:39:22, 0:39:23]: Okay. [0:39:23, 0:39:26]: We did in twenty eighteen, the gala gala that we had. [0:39:26, 0:39:27]: Right. [0:39:27, 0:39:28]: Yeah, can you? [0:39:29, 0:39:30]: I'd like to make a motion. [0:39:32, 0:39:34]: Hopefully I'll support for my councilmates. [0:39:37, 0:39:40]: May Mayor Fort. Yes, sir. Go ahead, sir. Um [0:39:41, 0:39:46]: I I'm going to second that I I I think it is uh I do understand um [0:39:47, 0:39:52]: Historically, we have had a a luncheon for employees. [0:39:52, 0:39:57]: uh during the holidays. I understand that and because of the pandemic we did not [0:39:57, 0:40:01]: Uh, but I think it will still be uh a great activity. [0:40:01, 0:40:21]: uh if we recognize uh our all of the volunteers, uh the board members, um, because you know all of the the board members are volunteers and um you know we are infringing on their time even though they volunteer uh to be on these boards. Uh it's all about you know moving the city. [0:40:21, 0:40:25]: it forward. So I just think that we should [0:40:26, 0:40:29]: Um sometime in twenty twenty two. [0:40:29, 0:40:43]: um have an event where we reach out and we thank all of our uh board members and volunteers. I I I think because we're all in this together and we we need these type of um [0:40:43, 0:41:03]: uh partnerships, um, you know, collaborations. You know, we have a lot of uh businesses that donate to a lot of um our initiatives, a lot of things that the city is doing. So I just think that we should incorporate uh some activity where we say thank you to our citizens. [0:41:03, 0:41:11]: To our business owners, to everyone that's in this with the city of Stybridge, making sure that we are creating a quality of life. [0:41:11, 0:41:26]: uh for the city of Stockbridge. And you know, we're all in this together moving forward. So I was second that and I think that would be a great activity for the City of Stockbridge to host to say thank you to all of our partners. [0:41:28, 0:41:31]: My motion is made in a second at uh any further discussion. [0:41:31, 0:41:37]: Yeah. Yes. [0:41:37, 0:41:48]: Yeah, first of all, I have this is the first I've heard of this. So how did we come up with the twenty thousand dollar amount? Who what did what is that number based on? It there are concerns about the amount. [0:41:48, 0:41:54]: Well where did you come up with the twenty thousand from? I'm just saying up to twenty thousand. [0:41:55, 0:41:58]: Right, but when we normally do these things we kinda have like a number. [0:41:59, 0:42:04]: on what we're going to do. So you just how did you come up with a twenty thousand dollar number that you want to go up to? [0:42:05, 0:42:06]: Right. I just threw out a number. [0:42:07, 0:42:12]: Right. So Mike, Mike, we want to go back to the staff and get them to look at a number in terms of [0:42:13, 0:42:15]: putting something together to be able to [0:42:15, 0:42:17]: uh come up with a adequate number or we just [0:42:18, 0:42:20]: comfortable with just saying twenty thousand dollars. [0:42:21, 0:42:25]: I believe the city um paid roughly [0:42:26, 0:42:27]: Forty. [0:42:27, 0:42:29]: plus thousand in twenty eighteen. [0:42:31, 0:42:35]: I just took a rough estimate and just said twenty. [0:42:36, 0:42:38]: I will um decrease that. [0:42:39, 0:42:43]: Why don't we that's what that's what I'm saying. Why don't we get a number? [0:42:43, 0:42:45]: These are not to exceed. [0:42:46, 0:42:55]: Not to exceed amounts. All I'm trying to do is make sure that we get it in the budget right now before we finalize it. [0:42:55, 0:42:58]: Yes, if it's necessary for staff to take a look. [0:43:00, 0:43:02]: At what the previous [0:43:02, 0:43:05]: budget was for it, that's fine. I'm okay with that. [0:43:06, 0:43:08]: I just want to make sure that we add. [0:43:09, 0:43:11]: this event to recognize these individuals. [0:43:12, 0:43:14]: In our community partners, that's all. [0:43:14, 0:43:15]: Please. [0:43:15, 0:43:16]: Back and forth. [0:43:17, 0:43:18]: Because it's not necessary. [0:43:18, 0:43:21]: Do I not need to add an amount? [0:43:23, 0:43:43]: Well, I would think that if we're gonna lose the budget for twenty twenty two, we need some type of of uh amount. And obviously this is the first I've heard of as well. And uh so I I have no idea what that uh a good uh solid amount would be in this aspect. And a couple of your councilmates uh want to be recognized. So stand by. [0:43:43, 0:43:46]: Whether this is a separate event. [0:43:46, 0:43:51]: Or whether it's the same it is not this is not gonna be a part of the luncheon. This is a new event. [0:43:53, 0:43:55]: Is that correct, Miss Barber? This is a new [0:43:56, 0:43:57]: It's a new event. [0:43:57, 0:43:59]: That is correct. [0:43:59, 0:44:00]: This is not a lunch. [0:44:01, 0:44:02]: Okay, this is a new event. Okay. [0:44:06, 0:44:07]: All right, duh. [0:44:07, 0:44:11]: Uh you're okay, so uh Councilman Blount, uh maybe you were next. [0:44:12, 0:44:19]: Yeah, Mayor, um I would like, you know, I have I have no problem with us recognizing volunteers. Uh [0:44:19, 0:44:24]: for the city, but I'm in agreement. I guess it's my first time hearing it also. [0:44:24, 0:44:28]: Um but when you have accounts for the uh executive account. [0:44:28, 0:44:32]: uh budget and the HR budget that we do have funding in right now. [0:44:33, 0:44:41]: I think to find out what fundings we can use from those counts that's already there would be for us. And when we talk about an event in 2018. [0:44:42, 0:44:49]: That was event that was mo mu uh monumentus event that was anomal anomaly to anything that we would do. We had just come out of uh [0:44:49, 0:45:04]: uh you know really uh stop reason being kept whole and those that are on the uh those those soldiers that we uh recognize that was on the f ground running that was putting up their time, money and efforts and all this that was just so that type of event was uh uh [0:45:04, 0:45:22]: was really one that that I I think the whole council at the time wanted to say, hey, we need to we we need to really make that event shine in that type of way. We obvious I I'm obviously believing that uh recognizing uh volunteers are is a good thing, but we I think that to have something formulated [0:45:22, 0:45:26]: That staff can work on and and a template that we could go off of rather than just [0:45:27, 0:45:34]: Come on here throwing out a twenty thousand dollar budget and then say, Well, I'm really cut this down. I think to really get that formulated itself. [0:45:34, 0:45:41]: Uh and see how we move forward because we already have it and need to add a little bit more, it will still be in the purview of the uh city manager to do that. [0:45:42, 0:45:52]: Uh so I I just think that we have to be careful and cautious how many city events along with initiative that we're putting out there, remember we still have an amphitheater that's gonna have an event schedule also. [0:45:52, 0:45:55]: So I think that some collaborations on all fronts need to be kind of [0:45:56, 0:46:02]: You know, we we might need to pump our brakes with so much that we're adding because we do have an amphitheater that's gonna be [0:46:02, 0:46:08]: up and vibrant next year as well. So um I I I just think we we we need to let staff [0:46:08, 0:46:17]: Get uh you know, go to the drawing board and say where can we put this? How much money this something like this would cost? And and it won't definitely won't be at the uh magnitude of twenty eighteen. [0:46:18, 0:46:20]: Okay, um Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. [0:46:22, 0:46:27]: The motion that I believe that I heard from uh Councilwoman Barber. [0:46:28, 0:46:31]: Uh she said up up two twenty. [0:46:31, 0:46:38]: I I would recommend uh Councilwoman Barber to add to the motion uh to test staff. [0:46:39, 0:46:40]: uh to research. [0:46:41, 0:46:43]: Um the motion has been made. [0:46:44, 0:46:46]: In the motion it said up to twenty. [0:46:46, 0:46:49]: Um none of this is written in stone. [0:46:49, 0:46:50]: Uh, I know we sort of [0:46:51, 0:46:59]: discussing, discussing, discussing, but I just recommend Councilman Bob just include in your motion to um [0:46:59, 0:47:03]: um to ask staff to to do the research and and ladies and gentlemen. [0:47:04, 0:47:12]: Let's let's move on. The motion said up to 20,000. Let the staff do the research and then once that happened, we can discuss this further. [0:47:13, 0:47:16]: Uh oh I'm I'm okay with that and we can add that in there. [0:47:18, 0:47:20]: Is Barber? [0:47:20, 0:47:21]: Amend my motion. [0:47:21, 0:47:23]: To test ad. [0:47:23, 0:47:25]: with doing the research. [0:47:27, 0:47:27]: I see I can. [0:47:29, 0:47:29]: And [0:47:30, 0:47:31]: Oh, I forgot. Not um [0:47:32, 0:47:33]: Present. [0:47:33, 0:47:35]: Do not exceed twenty thousand miles. [0:47:35, 0:47:38]: Twenty thousand dollars, I'm sorry. [0:47:39, 0:47:40]: Okay. [0:47:40, 0:47:42]: Mr. Thomas, you second that, right, sir? [0:47:42, 0:47:44]: Yes. Okay. [0:47:45, 0:47:46]: Uh, all in favor, please indicate. [0:47:48, 0:47:50]: And Mr. Blount, uh I guess you approved that as well. [0:47:51, 0:47:59]: Yeah, the only reason I'm abstaining because we have uh we have people in place to let us know whether we may not even have to [0:47:59, 0:48:05]: We're pr we're we're bringing stuff to approve such as this when funding could could may as well already be there. [0:48:06, 0:48:23]: You know, we're adding funding in place that funding could may may as well already be there. While we continue to add funding for events and things, this could have been vetted long before. Not you don't know anything about it, mayor. I don't know anything about it. Mr. Alexander said he doesn't know anything about it. This could have been vetted. [0:48:23, 0:48:38]: prior to this meeting and brought to us and said, hey, either the funding is there now we're saying up to some. We can't come and start asking for these type of fundings and then let's go figure out where we're gonna get it for. Well let's just add, it may already be in here. [0:48:38, 0:48:42]: That if that's an idea, this idea didn't just come up right now. [0:48:43, 0:48:46]: Vet the idea and let's see where we go with that idea. [0:48:46, 0:48:52]: Not not just all c continue to come over here and say up to this, up to this, the funding may already be there. So why are we [0:48:53, 0:49:02]: Going through this and prolonging it, it's just been I I just I I abstain there. All right, no problem. It passes 301. Hi, Miss Barber. You said you had a couple other things. [0:49:02, 0:49:05]: Yes, please. Um I'd like to make a motion. [0:49:05, 0:49:06]: To [0:49:07, 0:49:15]: Task staff with advertising for the grants administrator position under police services. [0:49:15, 0:49:19]: Um and task staff were doing the research, the paying class. [0:49:20, 0:49:22]: uh for this position for a grants administrator. [0:49:23, 0:49:24]: At the [0:49:24, 0:49:27]: I think it falls within sixty five thousand dollars falls within. [0:49:28, 0:49:31]: the range based on the DCA. [0:49:32, 0:49:32]: Um [0:49:32, 0:49:34]: link that I did, but [0:49:34, 0:49:38]: Task them to do their paying class research and advertising for this position. [0:49:39, 0:49:41]: Post a position in January. [0:49:41, 0:49:42]: Um and [0:49:43, 0:49:45]: Chief Tramer already has his position. [0:49:46, 0:49:47]: listed on this or chart. [0:49:48, 0:49:51]: Chief Tramer, is the title of that position? [0:49:51, 0:49:53]: Grants administrator. [0:49:54, 0:49:54]: Getting it. [0:49:55, 0:49:56]: I don't know if it's the coordinator or the [0:49:57, 0:50:06]: No, it was a a finance and grants manager, but we could modify that to a grant administrator with the stipulations that you [0:50:06, 0:50:10]: made regarding salary. I think that would be a fair salary for that position specifically. [0:50:12, 0:50:13]: Well [0:50:13, 0:50:18]: If it's just a title change that I need to make in my motion, I'll do that. [0:50:18, 0:50:21]: Can you repeat that title again, please? [0:50:22, 0:50:25]: Yes, it's a uh finance and grants manager. [0:50:29, 0:50:30]: Okay. [0:50:31, 0:50:34]: We want to find that position for twenty twenty two. [0:50:35, 0:50:40]: um with a salary of 65,000. I think that falls in the range. [0:50:41, 0:50:43]: That's my motion. Okay, is there a second to the motion? [0:50:45, 0:50:46]: That's okay. [0:50:46, 0:50:50]: Commare uh councilman Thomas Second's that. Commeror put him you had your hand up. [0:50:50, 0:50:56]: Yeah, I wanna understand it the position is in the police department now, cause it is it they're only gonna be doing [0:50:57, 0:51:06]: Uh are they are they gonna be in the police department? Because again we're bringing on a new city manager, we're creating this position. Might it be helpful that the [0:51:06, 0:51:17]: uh that it be citywide uh so the position can apply for grants for all of us or it's under the police department. There's a particular reason that it's under the police department. [0:51:17, 0:51:31]: Right now, the police department is priority and having a grants person in place right now to focus on acquiring all of those items that the police department will need. I believe that is. [0:51:31, 0:51:35]: Critical. You see, he's bringing forward things right now. [0:51:35, 0:51:39]: We're using farm funding for it. If we had a grants professional here. [0:51:40, 0:51:47]: They may have identified some grants. So the sooner the better. For both of them, remember, I asked for us to fund. [0:51:47, 0:51:50]: Two positions, two rent positions. [0:51:51, 0:51:51]: We only need. [0:51:53, 0:51:56]: Right. [0:51:56, 0:52:04]: Is priority. I figured let's feel it now. He already has the position, the job description, all of that is already in place. [0:52:06, 0:52:15]: My position is that this position needs to be under the city manager so they can apply for grass. Of course, that position can also be. [0:52:15, 0:52:21]: apply for grants for the police department and every department for trails, for everything. Somebody specific. [0:52:22, 0:52:34]: With those qualifications, why are they just limited to be under the police department? They're not applying for grants just for the police department. We don't need but one person and that person can apply for grants for everybody. [0:52:35, 0:52:38]: Okay, that's fine. I'm I'm fine with that. So we'll stick with [0:52:39, 0:52:40]: Um the original [0:52:42, 0:52:42]: Um [0:52:44, 0:52:45]: Job title. [0:52:45, 0:52:46]: That I suggested. [0:52:46, 0:52:50]: grants administrator and it should be an individual who [0:52:51, 0:52:52]: Газперієць і [0:52:53, 0:52:55]: Uh community development bro block grants. [0:52:56, 0:52:56]: Right. [0:52:57, 0:53:05]: Items that are needed for police services. Let's move on. Well, let me ask this. I I believe there's always a grant already a grant writer on the org chart. [0:53:06, 0:53:07]: With the treasure, is that not right? [0:53:08, 0:53:08]: And [0:53:09, 0:53:11]: It is true, but it's not funded though. [0:53:11, 0:53:14]: They're just positions. [0:53:16, 0:53:20]: I'm trying to fund these positions. I did ask at the last [0:53:20, 0:53:26]: couple of meetings ago to move the p the grants position that is currently under [0:53:26, 0:53:28]: Mr Wiggins. [0:53:28, 0:53:32]: Move that under the city manager on the org chart. [0:53:34, 0:53:43]: That's my I'm okay with that. I just don't think it should be under just the police. I want grants for everybody. And I think the police department can have it. So I'm okay with that just as long as it's [0:53:43, 0:53:48]: uh a overall arching under the city manager so that person has that [0:53:48, 0:53:55]: uh could uh has that control and I want the city manager to be empowered to control these things. Yeah. Thank you. [0:53:56, 0:54:01]: Per second. Can we all right. So does that does that now equate to the same motion that was seconded though? I'd I'm [0:54:02, 0:54:08]: Uh'cause your motion dealt with the police department. I now we're leaning towards five. I my original motion. [0:54:08, 0:54:09]: Okay. [0:54:09, 0:54:10]: No. [0:54:11, 0:54:13]: My motion is that we task staff. [0:54:14, 0:54:21]: with um identifying or researching the paying class for grants administrator position. [0:54:22, 0:54:23]: Find that position. [0:54:24, 0:54:27]: На токсе фази. [0:54:28, 0:54:31]: In addition to my motion, I'm tasking staff [0:54:31, 0:54:32]: The post [0:54:33, 0:54:34]: The job description. [0:54:35, 0:54:37]: In Janu beginning in January. [0:54:38, 0:54:42]: And leave the job description there until an offer has been accepted. [0:54:43, 0:54:51]: Now I initially said um under police services because I know that Chief Tramor already has a job description. [0:54:51, 0:54:53]: Under his department. [0:54:53, 0:54:59]: So are we able to use that job description, maybe make some tweaks to it? [0:54:59, 0:55:00]: Um [0:55:01, 0:55:04]: Or is there already a job description? [0:55:05, 0:55:10]: I I would think the job description already exists for that for that previous one. [0:55:10, 0:55:16]: Well, this one would be for a grants administrator. I believe what is listed under the treasurer. [0:55:17, 0:55:22]: The title is different and the responsibilities more than likely will be different. [0:55:22, 0:55:24]: Is that correct, Mr. Wiggins? [0:55:24, 0:55:27]: Yeah, I think it's a grants coordinator. Um [0:55:27, 0:55:29]: But cheap was it? [0:55:29, 0:55:32]: Was your position um [0:55:32, 0:55:36]: Did it have money associated or j or was it just one position that you [0:55:36, 0:55:38]: was looking for in the future. [0:55:39, 0:55:45]: Uh, this position would be responsible for uh police department procurements and working with your I mean to I'm [0:55:45, 0:55:47]: I'm asking did it have a salary? [0:55:48, 0:55:50]: No, it did. It had a salary range. It it did. [0:55:51, 0:55:53]: It was so it was in your budget for now. [0:55:55, 0:55:56]: It was an unfunded position. [0:55:57, 0:55:59]: Those are unfunding positions. So you [0:55:59, 0:56:00]: It has to be funded. [0:56:01, 0:56:02]: This position here. [0:56:02, 0:56:03]: has to be funded. [0:56:05, 0:56:05]: Yes. [0:56:06, 0:56:09]: Okay. So you're asking for additional six sixty five thousand. [0:56:10, 0:56:11]: And probably [0:56:12, 0:56:15]: twenty twenty three percent of benefits to be added to [0:56:16, 0:56:17]: The city manager's budget. [0:56:18, 0:56:19]: Yes. [0:56:21, 0:56:22]: Yes. [0:56:23, 0:56:24]: Okay. Yeah. [0:56:26, 0:56:27]: I saw [0:56:28, 0:56:34]: Ms. Holliday, could you repeat back the motion to make sure we have this right, please? Make sure it's accurate. [0:56:35, 0:56:38]: Yes, sir. The motion made by Councilwoman Barber. [0:56:40, 0:56:42]: is to [0:56:43, 0:56:46]: Bring in a grants administrator position. [0:56:48, 0:56:52]: А ситі файта, на токси файтазен долар. [0:56:53, 0:56:57]: to move the position from the finance department to the city manager's department. [0:56:58, 0:57:02]: Leave the position there until an offer has been accepted. [0:57:03, 0:57:04]: And [0:57:05, 0:57:10]: The amount again 65,000 plus 23% for benefits. [0:57:11, 0:57:20]: And I believe this is scheduled. The title is Grants Administrator. And I believe this is scheduled to start next month, January. Is that correct? Post post the position in January 2022. [0:57:20, 0:57:21]: Yeah. [0:57:21, 0:57:28]: Miss, I just want one more question if I could uh well stand by for a second before you ask that question. Miss Barber, is that the motion that you wanted? [0:57:30, 0:57:35]: Okay. Go ahead, uh Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. Yeah, Ms. Wheeler on the call. Yes, she is. [0:57:35, 0:57:40]: Okay. Uh we have a salary range with for this position. Does she have it or no? [0:57:42, 0:57:48]: She's here, you hears you. The salary range for a grants administrator is what you're asking for? [0:57:48, 0:57:49]: You're right. [0:57:50, 0:57:51]: We do not have that. [0:57:52, 0:57:54]: I will have to add that to the pay plan. [0:57:55, 0:57:58]: Because the grants position that's under the finance department. [0:57:59, 0:58:00]: was a [0:58:00, 0:58:01]: Um [0:58:03, 0:58:04]: Contract position. [0:58:05, 0:58:09]: We went out, we we were asking for a contractor to come in and do that. [0:58:09, 0:58:12]: So we would need to add that to the pay plan. [0:58:12, 0:58:14]: And go out and do a [0:58:15, 0:58:18]: A pay study to see what the pay range should be for that position. [0:58:19, 0:58:21]: Along with the job description. [0:58:21, 0:58:24]: I'll have to pull that together and submit it to council. [0:58:24, 0:58:27]: So how do we come up with the sixty five thousand dollars? [0:58:27, 0:58:30]: Because I did some research on grant administrator. [0:58:31, 0:58:32]: They based on the DA. [0:58:33, 0:58:35]: You will look at calorie range here. [0:58:36, 0:58:40]: So my motion will is in is to include [0:58:41, 0:58:43]: have staff to do the research. [0:58:43, 0:58:46]: Just uh staff to do the research. Thank you. [0:58:50, 0:58:52]: That motion's been made. Has it has it actually been seconded? [0:58:54, 0:58:55]: Second. [0:58:56, 0:58:58]: Okay, Councilman Thomas seconds that motion any further discussion. [0:59:01, 0:59:10]: Okay, all favorite motion, please indicate. Mayor, you can't see me. I cannot. I I I I could not see you, sir, because the way the no, what's what's on your mind, sir? Go ahead. [0:59:11, 0:59:12]: Bear once again [0:59:13, 0:59:14]: We as council members. [0:59:15, 0:59:18]: Have to get with staff before we start spewing out numbers. [0:59:19, 0:59:28]: Uh there was nowhere that we can find where$65,000 came from from our HR. Not council members, but from our [0:59:28, 0:59:35]: HR department that the that can show us the wages of these different positions. [0:59:35, 0:59:40]: And I believe that we're moving a little prematurely if we want our city manager to determine. [0:59:40, 0:59:48]: Whether that position needs to be under him or under finance. This is why you have department heads. You have the head of finance, you have positions under it. [0:59:49, 0:59:58]: We're moving a little prematurely for positions and we're putting amounts on these positions that are that HR didn't even have. [0:59:59, 1:00:06]: We're the elected body and we can say we want these positions, but ask HR and SD different entities to bring us the information. [1:00:06, 1:00:11]: We can't just say, hey, let's get a position, but we've never sit here and said. [1:00:11, 1:00:15]: We don't sit on here and say what we're gonna pay somebody and let's go get them. [1:00:16, 1:00:27]: And then we now put a face to the amount we said. We always get the person and then we put amount on them off a range that's given to us by HR. We're at we're doing this totally backwards right now. [1:00:27, 1:00:47]: I would ask this council to seek HR for the information we need. I would ask counselor to quit putting amounts out that HR doesn't have. I would ask counselor to wait on our city manager to come in and determine whether that position needs to be on him or on the on the finance head and that they report to the finance head and then he gets the information. [1:00:47, 1:00:48]: From there. [1:00:49, 1:01:07]: We're not to manage the city. We're here to set legislation and move with a legislative body. Why are we putting ourselves in the management of the city when we have a manager city manager coming? It makes no sense. And we have HR to give us exactly what we we don't have right now that we're being given by an elected official. [1:01:07, 1:01:09]: Makes no sense to me. [1:01:09, 1:01:13]: Mayor. Hold on a second. May uh Councilman Barber, go ahead, please. [1:01:13, 1:01:20]: This one as the call for the bottom, please. I have two NairPo Tim. [1:01:21, 1:01:28]: Yeah, I just I think what we got in the clarification was that the sixty five thousand dollars is going to be a placeholder. [1:01:28, 1:01:32]: And then we are tasking staff with actually doing the research. [1:01:32, 1:01:33]: Is that correct? [1:01:34, 1:01:34]: That's correct. [1:01:35, 1:01:41]: Okay, that lets that so we need to make sure that we state it that way so everybody knows and understand again the task this tack. [1:01:41, 1:01:44]: is tasked with actually doing the work. We're not gonna skip that step. [1:01:45, 1:01:47]: Yeah, this is just a placeholder so that we [1:01:47, 1:01:52]: uh that we can um there is some funding allocated in the budget for the position. [1:01:53, 1:01:54]: Five thousand. [1:01:55, 1:01:58]: Right. So okay, thank you. Please call for the vote. [1:01:58, 1:02:02]: Mayor, question. Yeah, go ahead, Mayor. Um Mr Mr. Blount. [1:02:02, 1:02:06]: Ms. Wheeler's on the phone. What does she say that position range is? [1:02:08, 1:02:19]: If she doesn't have that position range, we don't know if we're falling below the range for this size city or what. These things should be vetted prior to this meeting. I I I I'm not against the position. [1:02:20, 1:02:24]: I'm against the procedure we're taking right now when it comes to these positions. [1:02:24, 1:02:33]: We got HR on the phone right now that should have a salary range if this was vetted prior to this meeting. Miss Weaver, do you have a salary range for this position? [1:02:34, 1:02:39]: Not for the position that Miss Barber is asking us to research for. [1:02:40, 1:02:43]: I only we we have to go out and do the research. [1:02:44, 1:02:47]: So I can pr get that information, get a job description for you. [1:02:47, 1:02:51]: along with the pay scale for the position so that you can approve it. [1:02:52, 1:02:55]: Bring it back to the council for approval. [1:02:56, 1:02:56]: Right. [1:02:57, 1:02:57]: Thank you. [1:02:58, 1:02:58]: All right. [1:02:59, 1:03:00]: Any other discussion? [1:03:01, 1:03:04]: All right. The motion has been made. It's been seconded. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:03:06, 1:03:18]: All right. Um Mayor, you'll have to call the vote because I'm able I'm a I'm proceed. Uh Barber, Alexander, and Thomas voted, uh approved it. Uh Councilman Blount, your vote please. [1:03:19, 1:03:22]: You said would you vote no or abstain? [1:03:23, 1:03:32]: I vote no, Mayor. We should HR needs to let us know about this position. Okay. Motion passed three one zero. Thank you. All right, Miss Barber, I think you had one more. [1:03:32, 1:03:37]: Yes, I want to confirm with the treasurer, the executive assistant to mayor and council position. [1:03:38, 1:03:40]: I want to make sure that it is funded. [1:03:41, 1:03:42]: It is, it's still in there. [1:03:43, 1:03:43]: Okay. [1:03:44, 1:03:55]: And well, I want to make a motion to task staff to begin advertising it and leave it open until an offer has been received. [1:03:56, 1:03:57]: Or accepted. [1:03:59, 1:04:01]: Is there a second? Is that a motion? [1:04:02, 1:04:06]: Discussion. Second. Member Pro Tem seconded that. So discussion. [1:04:10, 1:04:11]: No discussion. [1:04:12, 1:04:13]: Okay, all in favor of motion, please indicate. [1:04:15, 1:04:16]: Okay. [1:04:17, 1:04:29]: Yeah, you'll have to call the vote for me. Okay. Alexander, are you for the motion? Unanimous. Isn't that okay? So Barber, you had for it. Uh Mr. Blount, you voted for the motion? [1:04:31, 1:04:41]: And that's yes, it's unanimous. Okay, all right, all right. There you go. Um Thank you. You're welcome. And one more budget item. Um the youth council budget. [1:04:41, 1:04:44]: the I believe the first reading I don't know [1:04:44, 1:04:50]: I don't think it changed, but I believe it's at twenty one thousand. I want to reduce it by [1:04:50, 1:05:05]: 6,000. We've asked all departments areas where we can decrease their budgets. Um, so with this one, I like to just decrease it by six thousand dollars. We know now the youth department, youth. [1:05:06, 1:05:09]: Is gonna be partnering with the council. [1:05:10, 1:05:12]: And the city on some of our city events. [1:05:13, 1:05:13]: Um [1:05:13, 1:05:19]: I'd like to make a motion to reduce the youth council budget to fifteen thousand. [1:05:20, 1:05:21]: There is a second on the motion. [1:05:22, 1:05:23]: I see okay. [1:05:23, 1:05:26]: All right, Mr. Thomas Second, uh any further discussion? [1:05:27, 1:05:29]: Yes. Go ahead, Mr. Blount. [1:05:30, 1:05:38]: Mayor, you know, I I think that what's going on with our youth with the youth council right now is that the budget that's been set and that has been approved. [1:05:39, 1:05:49]: Uh if there's any funding that has not been used, it goes back into the general fund anyway. I think with the youth now uh with information of uh attending uh [1:05:50, 1:06:10]: uh various uh entities such as uh the uh uh cities united and and to be able to move about we can sit here and approve twenty thousand dollars to recognize volunteers when this is the volunteer position itself they're working with our youth while we reduce this budget and we're increasing other areas i i want us to be consistent in what we're doing i'm not gonna [1:06:10, 1:06:22]: gonna vote to decrease the youth council budget. I think it should stay where it has, where where it is, so the youth council can move about and do better and bigger and better things with our youth with it right now. If they don't use it, then it goes back into general funds anyway. [1:06:24, 1:06:25]: Okay, any further discussion? [1:06:27, 1:06:35]: I I have a question. So go ahead, Mr. Lanzar. So the number of the six thousand dollars. So we decided to cut that from the budget. [1:06:36, 1:06:40]: Because they didn't use it. What was the reason behind the six thousand dollar cut? [1:06:42, 1:06:45]: So the public understands. I just explained that. [1:06:46, 1:06:50]: When we spoke with several department heads, we asked them. [1:06:51, 1:06:53]: Where we can decrease the budget. [1:06:54, 1:06:55]: Just because these [1:06:56, 1:06:57]: proposals. [1:06:57, 1:06:58]: R bean. [1:06:58, 1:07:02]: provided to the council doesn't necessarily mean we have to approve it. [1:07:03, 1:07:07]: Mr. Wiggins, do you have the numbers from last year? [1:07:07, 1:07:08]: From the [1:07:09, 1:07:10]: Youth Council budget. [1:07:11, 1:07:12]: What their total [1:07:12, 1:07:13]: Year spin was [1:07:15, 1:07:17]: This year, well, can you tell me what it is? [1:07:17, 1:07:19]: For this year and last year. [1:07:21, 1:07:22]: Yeah. Um [1:07:24, 1:07:26]: And why is it actually? [1:07:26, 1:07:35]: why he's doing that. Ms. Barber, did you get a chance to talk to the director uh uh uh about there, Erica, about that reduction, your particular reduction here? [1:07:36, 1:07:36]: No. [1:07:37, 1:07:37]: I did not. [1:07:38, 1:07:38]: Okay. [1:07:39, 1:07:45]: I have not spoken other than all of the department heads who come to present to us. [1:07:45, 1:07:47]: Other than those? No, I have not. [1:07:47, 1:07:48]: Okay. [1:07:48, 1:07:50]: Mr. Blank, Mr. Blank, go ahead, please. [1:07:51, 1:07:52]: Mayor, you know [1:07:54, 1:08:04]: You know, that's the proper way of doing things. You you got a youth council budget. Do you know what? And when you talk about comparing last year, remember we're still in the middle of a pandemic here. [1:08:05, 1:08:10]: The use of a fundish funding is gonna be decreased at some point in time. [1:08:11, 1:08:17]: But we believe things are going to be better. So when when we we initially talked about putting this budget in. [1:08:17, 1:08:25]: Let the youth council flourish. When we start just throwing numbers out, let's decrease six thousand dollars and have we even sat down and had a talk with. [1:08:25, 1:08:29]: uh with the youth council the the the uh the person over the youth council [1:08:30, 1:08:38]: I mean, if you're saying you didn't talk to the department heads, wouldn't we talk to the volunteer that's over the youth council trying to removing funding and see if that funding is needed? [1:08:40, 1:08:42]: We're doing stuff so backwards here. It makes no sense to me. [1:08:43, 1:08:46]: You're not even talking to the people you're taking funding from. [1:08:46, 1:08:54]: Why are we decreasing the youth council funding when we're spending all this other money? Why why go in that direction? Makes no sense to me. [1:08:54, 1:08:56]: I just explained my my rationale. [1:08:58, 1:09:00]: Uh Mr. Wiggins, have you f you found that data yet, sir? [1:09:01, 1:09:04]: Looking for this year, but last year we spent about ten thousand. [1:09:05, 1:09:06]: And that's because a lot of things were cut short. [1:09:08, 1:09:12]: Okay. But when you say last year, you're talking about twenty one or you talking about twenty. [1:09:13, 1:09:13]: 2020. [1:09:14, 1:09:18]: 2020. Okay. All right. Okay, mayor. [1:09:18, 1:09:23]: Okay, so all I'm asking is just to reduce it from 21 to 15,000. [1:09:23, 1:09:42]: But but we need to understand why that you're deciding to do that. Did you talk to the board members with the youth council? Responsible. We need to be looking at all departments. I know that Councilman Tom, no, Councilman Blount and Councilwoman Ghent are consistently concerned about our spending and budgets. [1:09:42, 1:09:47]: So I asked all of the department heads that have come here and presented to us. [1:09:48, 1:09:49]: I've spoken with them. [1:09:49, 1:09:56]: I've spoken with them, asked them areas in which we have we can cut, and I believe Mr. Wiggins have included. [1:09:56, 1:09:58]: Those cuts in the budget. [1:09:58, 1:10:00]: I didn't think it was necessary. [1:10:01, 1:10:09]: When I brought forth the motion for the city event for recognizing employees and volunteers. [1:10:10, 1:10:15]: I initially threw out the amount of twenty thousand dollars, not to exceed. [1:10:15, 1:10:22]: However, I also said if we need to scale that back to ten, that's fine. Comparing it to the [1:10:22, 1:10:24]: Holiday Gala that the city [1:10:24, 1:10:30]: had in 2018, which we spent in excess of$40,000 for that. [1:10:30, 1:10:31]: These are just [1:10:31, 1:10:33]: ideas that I have. [1:10:33, 1:10:36]: I know that there is protocol that we have to follow here. [1:10:36, 1:10:38]: Which is why I've asked. [1:10:38, 1:10:41]: Mr. Wiggins to give us the factual information. [1:10:42, 1:10:45]: He just shared with you what we've spent with the council initiative. [1:10:45, 1:10:48]: The council you council last year. [1:10:48, 1:10:50]: Ten thousand dollars. [1:10:51, 1:10:53]: So if I need to justify [1:10:53, 1:10:56]: Why I am decreasing their budget? [1:10:56, 1:10:57]: From twenty one thousand [1:10:58, 1:11:01]: to now fifteen thousand, that's just a six thousand dollar difference. [1:11:03, 1:11:05]: This this year they've spent about fifteen. [1:11:06, 1:11:09]: Fifteen thousand, but they got some more expenditures coming. [1:11:10, 1:11:10]: So [1:11:11, 1:11:11]: Yeah. [1:11:12, 1:11:14]: Yeah, I I see you sure. Time by the same thing. [1:11:15, 1:11:18]: So 15,000 is not a big deal. [1:11:19, 1:11:22]: All right, the ma uh Mr Blount, please. [1:11:22, 1:11:30]: Mayor, right now, wh why you can't look at 2020. 2020, we didn't even have City Hall open. [1:11:30, 1:11:38]: The greatest shutdown throughout this country was in 2020. We can't compare 2020 to anything that we're doing right now. [1:11:38, 1:11:46]: Okay. We didn't even ma Mayor, I'm talking. I'm excited, I'm talking. Wait, Mr. We cannot compare twenty twenty to anything. [1:11:46, 1:11:48]: We can look at 2021. [1:11:49, 1:11:53]: When you throw John Blount in there, John Blount was not for having [1:11:54, 1:12:14]: a New Year's party that Councilwoman Barber suggested last council meeting of$20,000. And Councilman uh Mr. Alexander told her that it would have to go next year because if if you amend the budget, it's for the budget for next year. She said, I'll pull back. So you're willing to have a a a a New Year's, you're willing to throw 20 right off the bat. [1:12:14, 1:12:23]: throw twenty thousand dollars toward a new year's concert or new year's event, but you will now you want to take six thousand dollars from the youth. It makes no sense. [1:12:24, 1:12:44]: Leave the youth budget alone and let's keep this thing moving. Just like it doesn't make any sense why you didn't support the police department. All right. Hold up, hold up, folks. Calm down, calm down. We don't need that. Hold up. Come, Mr. Thomas. I rescind my motion. [1:12:44, 1:12:52]: And the attorneys, um, can you clarify is there a uh speaking limit uh doing a a budget here? There is there's a speaking limit. [1:12:53, 1:12:56]: I'd like to like for us to move on. I think everyone has spoken. [1:12:56, 1:13:08]: over the two term limit. Can we move on? Okay. My motion. You rescend your motion? Okay. Fine. Can I have more items, please? You you originally told me three items. This is number six, I believe. [1:13:09, 1:13:10]: What's going on here? [1:13:11, 1:13:11]: Um [1:13:17, 1:13:18]: Oh, okay. [1:13:18, 1:13:20]: I have one more motion in this. [1:13:21, 1:13:23]: I can wait for this one, I'm sorry. [1:13:24, 1:13:29]: This is on the city events calendar, so I can wait till we get to that item on the agenda. [1:13:29, 1:13:30]: Okay. [1:13:30, 1:13:33]: Good deal. Okay, back to you, Mr. Wiggins. [1:13:34, 1:13:40]: You were you you were this was this all came up during your presentation on the budget. We were talking about the general fund budget. [1:13:40, 1:13:45]: Mr. Thomas. Uh Mayor, would you would you please reemphasize? [1:13:45, 1:13:51]: uh the the the speaking rules so we can sort of um move this uh meeting along tonight. [1:13:51, 1:13:52]: All right. [1:13:52, 1:13:56]: Speaking rules is speak twice and no more than three minutes each time at this point. [1:13:57, 1:13:57]: All right. [1:13:58, 1:13:59]: Uh Mr. Wiggins. [1:14:00, 1:14:01]: Back to you, sir. [1:14:03, 1:14:04]: Okay, with the gent okay. [1:14:05, 1:14:07]: The general form changes. [1:14:08, 1:14:08]: Um [1:14:09, 1:14:12]: Reading from changes from third [1:14:13, 1:14:14]: How long you get? [1:14:14, 1:14:15]: On the third budget. [1:14:16, 1:14:17]: Reading on December thirteenth. [1:14:17, 1:14:18]: Twenty twenty one. [1:14:19, 1:14:21]: Adjunct fund total change. [1:14:22, 1:14:25]: From eighteen point two million to eighteen point three. [1:14:26, 1:14:26]: Right. [1:14:26, 1:14:29]: That was a nine ninety nine thousand six hundred and eighty one. [1:14:31, 1:14:33]: dollar ninety three increase. [1:14:34, 1:14:35]: Yeah. [1:14:35, 1:14:36]: We [1:14:36, 1:14:38]: What I have below. [1:14:38, 1:14:42]: Or some of the changes. We had business services, they decreased their budget by a thousand. [1:14:43, 1:14:46]: Yeah, government building property dec they decrease theirs by [1:14:47, 1:14:48]: Um [1:14:48, 1:14:49]: A hundred. [1:14:49, 1:14:51]: Eleven thousand five hundred. [1:14:51, 1:14:52]: I T [1:14:52, 1:14:54]: was increased by twelve thousand. [1:14:55, 1:14:59]: Municipal court dec decreased by seventy one thousand five sixty one. [1:15:01, 1:15:03]: Police increased about three hundred thousand. [1:15:04, 1:15:07]: Public works decreased their budget by seventy three thousand six. [1:15:08, 1:15:09]: Hundred and fifty six dollars. [1:15:11, 1:15:12]: See the events increase about [1:15:12, 1:15:14]: by fifty thousand. [1:15:15, 1:15:18]: permitting development decrease about [1:15:18, 1:15:21]: By four thousand six hundred plan and zoning. [1:15:21, 1:15:24]: Decreased by six thousand Main Street. [1:15:24, 1:15:25]: decreased by six thousand. [1:15:26, 1:15:27]: Which needed that to [1:15:29, 1:15:30]: Nine nine thousand six eighty one. [1:15:32, 1:15:32]: So now you have [1:15:33, 1:15:34]: Oh of course it. [1:15:35, 1:15:35]: Okay. [1:15:36, 1:15:37]: What's your question? So go ahead. [1:15:37, 1:15:44]: What constitutes the hundred and eleven thousand decrease in government buildings and property decrease? What what what is that? [1:15:44, 1:15:45]: What is that? [1:15:46, 1:15:47]: Okay. [1:15:47, 1:15:48]: Initially [1:15:49, 1:15:51]: This is coming from um [1:15:52, 1:15:53]: The from the the last meeting? [1:15:55, 1:15:55]: Yeah. [1:15:56, 1:16:01]: You have your maintenance agreement agreement which we changed from one hundred and twenty five thousand to fifty thousand. [1:16:02, 1:16:03]: Um [1:16:04, 1:16:06]: The fountain ma maintenance. [1:16:07, 1:16:13]: was uh it's fifteen thousand it was it was is it was reduced from thirty thousand. [1:16:14, 1:16:18]: You had uh now it's ten thousand dollars in your supply materials. [1:16:19, 1:16:20]: That's coming from [1:16:21, 1:16:22]: That was fifteen thousand before. [1:16:24, 1:16:26]: Uh your hand tools and small equipment. [1:16:27, 1:16:30]: It was ten thousand, but now it's two thousand five hundred. [1:16:31, 1:16:34]: Science was reduced from two thousand five hundred to a thousand. [1:16:35, 1:16:40]: Uniforms was reduced from two thousand to one thousand five hundred. [1:16:41, 1:16:42]: Um [1:16:42, 1:16:43]: New building. [1:16:44, 1:16:45]: Um [1:16:45, 1:16:46]: Maintenance. [1:16:46, 1:16:49]: was reduced from ten thousand to five thousand. [1:16:50, 1:16:53]: And computer software was reduced from seven thousand, five thousand. [1:16:53, 1:17:00]: Okay, so who made these changes? The department head made the change or who made these changes? Department head as well as some of the council uh [1:17:01, 1:17:01]: Um [1:17:02, 1:17:03]: S on a couple of them. [1:17:04, 1:17:05]: But mainly um [1:17:05, 1:17:06]: Department. [1:17:07, 1:17:18]: What happened, Mayor what happened, Mayor Pro Tem is that several several council members met with department heads and we went through that individual budget for each of those uh department heads that we were able to meet with. And that's where the changes came from. [1:17:19, 1:17:23]: Okay. All right. Just wanna make sure we're not taking anything out there with [1:17:23, 1:17:28]: negatively impact uh where we're trying to go in terms of the quality that we're trying to get. So [1:17:29, 1:17:31]: The biggest item under that was was what? [1:17:31, 1:17:32]: Again. [1:17:32, 1:17:34]: Uh it was the um [1:17:37, 1:17:38]: The maintenance agreement. [1:17:38, 1:17:40]: Which was at one a hundred and twenty five thousand. [1:17:41, 1:17:42]: Which was reduced to fifty thousand. [1:17:43, 1:17:49]: Okay, what what is the maintenance agreement? What's that? I'm sorry. What explain that what the what the detail [1:17:49, 1:17:50]: I might need [1:17:51, 1:17:54]: I can explain that the main. [1:17:55, 1:17:58]: The maintenance agreement involves the camera and access control. [1:17:59, 1:18:05]: And our goal was last year we would have all of those upgraded and all of the city buildings, but we're not. [1:18:06, 1:18:15]: Because uh Chief Traymar and I are still looking at some additional things. So instead of that being up and running by the first of January, it'll probably be the middle of the year. [1:18:16, 1:18:19]: So that way you save on the maintenance agreement cost. [1:18:20, 1:18:22]: So that where that reduction came from. [1:18:23, 1:18:24]: Okay, thank you. [1:18:27, 1:18:30]: I Mr. Wiggins continue on, unless you unless you're done. [1:18:30, 1:18:33]: I I'm done. With this is j this is just for the general funnel. [1:18:34, 1:18:36]: If anybody ain't got any more questions about the jump on. [1:18:38, 1:18:40]: Okay. [1:18:40, 1:18:41]: Yes, sir. [1:18:41, 1:18:43]: Uh Ms. Tom Squay, please. [1:18:43, 1:18:44]: I have a motion. [1:18:46, 1:18:47]: What's that sir? Go ahead. [1:18:47, 1:18:51]: If if if Mr. Wills if Mr. Wiggins is finished with his presentation. [1:18:52, 1:18:53]: Oh yeah. [1:18:54, 1:18:58]: Uh Mayor Councilor, um I move to amend the assistant [1:18:59, 1:19:03]: Public works, directed job description, minimum qualification. [1:19:04, 1:19:05]: And it reads as follows. [1:19:06, 1:19:09]: A bachelor's degree in civil engineering. [1:19:10, 1:19:12]: A related field of engineering. [1:19:13, 1:19:15]: Environmental science or technology. [1:19:16, 1:19:19]: Requiring seven years of experience in public works. [1:19:19, 1:19:21]: Including water. [1:19:22, 1:19:22]: Sure. [1:19:23, 1:19:24]: Stone water. [1:19:25, 1:19:27]: Solid waste management. [1:19:27, 1:19:29]: Streets and roads. [1:19:30, 1:19:30]: Parks. [1:19:32, 1:19:34]: and facility and fleet maintenance. [1:19:35, 1:19:38]: with an equivalent combination of education and training. [1:19:39, 1:19:40]: And experience. [1:19:41, 1:19:50]: which provides the required knowledge, skills, and ability for this job will be considered with the required engineering degree. [1:19:50, 1:19:53]: and a valid state of Georgia uh driver's license. [1:19:55, 1:20:00]: All right. So that's uh additional that's part of the job description that you're you're requesting in. [1:20:00, 1:20:03]: Yeah, I well the motion is to amend [1:20:04, 1:20:08]: uh the qualification, not job description, but the uh qualification. [1:20:09, 1:20:09]: Okay. [1:20:10, 1:20:16]: All right. Is there a second? Okay. May I put ten second that any further discussion? [1:20:16, 1:20:25]: I just wanna one other thing. Now, uh, in terms of uh what we're doing here, this person is coming in as assistant, is this operations person? [1:20:25, 1:20:29]: with the engineering background and all of that, is there something that uh [1:20:30, 1:20:32]: Uh is in there specifically about [1:20:32, 1:20:38]: uh some type uh operations. I guess this person uh will be coming in in terms of [1:20:38, 1:20:42]: Uh operations. Uh is that anything in there referring to that? [1:20:43, 1:20:46]: Well the the the basic issue is [1:20:46, 1:20:55]: Um, you know, every time the city needs an engineer, we we have to go outside. Right. Right and and this person coming in. [1:20:55, 1:20:57]: Uh we'll held that and and [1:20:58, 1:20:58]: Um [1:20:59, 1:21:05]: The years of experience has has increased from three uh to seven. [1:21:05, 1:21:09]: And and and again, my my point and my position is [1:21:09, 1:21:11]: Uh how do we [1:21:11, 1:21:14]: Do things more efficient and effective. [1:21:15, 1:21:17]: How do we improve? [1:21:17, 1:21:19]: Uh on everything that we do. [1:21:20, 1:21:20]: Um [1:21:21, 1:21:41]: Now, even though we're in the budget cycle now, but I plan to continue to look in all departments to see where we need some improvements. And so I just sort of see this now, you know, public works, community development, those are the two large. [1:21:40, 1:21:49]: Largest departments and with the police department coming on. So if you just look at those three departments, uh, it is very crucial. [1:21:49, 1:22:01]: uh that we saw to just you know to do the best we can. So uh again, I will be coming forward with other uh recommendation, other amendments, but I just see this is one right now. [1:22:02, 1:22:05]: Um that I think is just just needed uh to go forward, but [1:22:06, 1:22:07]: Uh for me [1:22:08, 1:22:12]: How do we improve on our service delivery? [1:22:13, 1:22:20]: Uh I'm not living on past law of what we did last year and the year before, and the year before it's not acceptable now. [1:22:21, 1:22:26]: Um as the the city grows, uh the demand from citizen grows. [1:22:26, 1:22:31]: And so uh we have to be accountable ourselves at elected officials. [1:22:31, 1:22:33]: And uh it has to trigger down. [1:22:33, 1:22:53]: uh the citizens require that of us and we have to require that of of staff and then that and then and directors have to uh allow that accountability even with uh the personnel that's on them. So it's a trick-a-down effect, but we have to be more efficient, more effective, and we have to improve our service delivery to our citizens. [1:22:53, 1:23:00]: Well, this is exactly what I was looking for so that people can understand that every time something goes wrong, [1:23:00, 1:23:11]: we don't have an engineer on staff. And these qualifications are extremely important because now we have uh we'll have enough engineer uh on staff. So that's why I second this motion. [1:23:12, 1:23:14]: Uh Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [1:23:20, 1:23:21]: Ms. Barber. [1:23:28, 1:23:31]: Yes. Okay. Uh Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [1:23:32, 1:23:37]: Mayor, uh I'm not in disapproval of any biz positions that we [1:23:37, 1:23:38]: Bring in that will help. [1:23:39, 1:23:41]: To facilitate the needs of the city. [1:23:41, 1:23:45]: But once again I would say that we are bringing on a city manager. [1:23:46, 1:23:55]: And if this I would ask that we will let the city manager go through each department and with the recommendations from the city council, let us know how much that need can facilitate. [1:23:55, 1:23:57]: Or what can be done and what can be moved. [1:23:58, 1:24:02]: Uh I'm I think we're in a golden opportunity right now with the city that that [1:24:03, 1:24:07]: Collaborately with the city council and what we're able to approve and what we can can approve. [1:24:07, 1:24:11]: that we can work with the uh city manager in order to go through each department. [1:24:12, 1:24:15]: to determine and facilitate each department's needs. [1:24:15, 1:24:21]: Um and so I I I I think that this this would be the the way to go and um [1:24:22, 1:24:31]: Mr. Aaron, because I I don't know where did this come where is the job description? Is it enlightenment to any other city or how did we come about these uh job descriptions? [1:24:32, 1:24:40]: Well, my only concern to this is engineers are like doctors, engineers specialize. Not every engineer can [1:24:41, 1:25:01]: work in every discipline. Some specialize in utilities, some specialize in civil engineering. And I don't want people to be under the impression because you hire an engineer, you'll no longer need an outside engineer because that engineer might not specialize in design water and sewer improvements or stormwater improvements. He might not specialize like [1:25:01, 1:25:21]: Be doing this East Atlanta uh Lee Street improvement. He might not be able to design that an engineer is not going to be knowledgeable in all disciplines. I think one of the things if you're looking for somebody is that somebody have knowledge of public works operations and project management. Just because [1:25:21, 1:25:22]: they have an engineer. [1:25:22, 1:25:42]: on their title does not mean that they're gonna save the city a lot of money in engineering fees because if that's not a part of their discipline, you're still gonna have to find an engineer to be able to design and and draw those plans. So I just would like if it's a position that is someone that's knowledgeable of public works. [1:25:42, 1:26:02]: That they worked in the field, they can operate equipment, they can read plans, they can meet with engineers and designers and contractors and talk their language and make sure that the city gets the project that it's spending its money for. There are people out there that they might not have a degree, but they're good project managers. [1:26:02, 1:26:08]: They've managed million dollar projects and they could bring those projects to fruition. [1:26:08, 1:26:11]: Because they have that experience. They've been out there. [1:26:11, 1:26:25]: And they they've earned their stripes doing this type of work. And I just don't want to see us box ourselves in that it's gotta be an engineer. When if you get an engineer, he might have an engineering degree, but he might not be able to work in all the disciplines that we need. [1:26:26, 1:26:32]: Thank you. Just a follow-up with Mr. Aaron. This is why I would hope that we would allow the city manager. [1:26:33, 1:26:39]: what what this what what the council needs that the city manager would take those needs to you mr aaron [1:26:40, 1:27:00]: And he would facilitate those departments with the job description along with HR that's needed for those positions. And then we get the price range for those positions. And then we fill those positions. I would hope that this council would go that route. And that way, our needs are being fulfilled as a council. The needs of that department is being fulfilled, and we'll put [1:26:59, 1:27:06]: putting that position, uh the the the uh initiator of that position in the hands of the city manager. [1:27:07, 1:27:09]: Ms. Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [1:27:12, 1:27:16]: Thank you, Mayor Ford. I wanted to ask Mr. Wiggins if he could go back to his last slide. [1:27:17, 1:27:18]: Um, the one that shows [1:27:19, 1:27:22]: A recap of everything that has happened. [1:27:22, 1:27:24]: from the previous reading. [1:27:25, 1:27:27]: Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. [1:27:27, 1:27:33]: Okay, then um that's one bar that there's a motion and a second on the table, Mayor. [1:27:34, 1:27:35]: That's true it is. [1:27:36, 1:27:46]: That's true it is. Discussion should be surrounding that motion that has been made versus going back to the. [1:27:51, 1:27:52]: You good? [1:27:52, 1:27:57]: point out. Mayor Ford, let me just ask Ms. Bob, is that related to the the motion? [1:28:00, 1:28:01]: No, I'm sorry. [1:28:02, 1:28:19]: Okay, Mayor Ford, you have a motion and a second on the table. Okay. Ms. Wiggins, you can get rid of the slide at this point, please. Oh, Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. You have a motion and a second on the table. I want to know make sure that if there's no other discussion on this particular motion. [1:28:20, 1:28:22]: All right. All right. All in favor, motion, please indicate. [1:28:24, 1:28:25]: Opposed. [1:28:26, 1:28:33]: Abstain. Ma pose deposed, I think the city manager have embarrassment with the with the department head on that position. [1:28:33, 1:28:36]: All right, the motion passed three uh three to one. All right. [1:28:39, 1:28:50]: I I I yield back to you and uh Councilwoman uh Barber Mayor Ford. All right. Uh Mr. Wigan, uh anything else on your presentation that you need to mention to the to the council. [1:28:51, 1:28:53]: Um the only thing I need to mention is um [1:28:55, 1:28:55]: Um [1:28:56, 1:28:58]: If we if we're not voting for the budget. [1:28:58, 1:28:59]: Tonight [1:28:59, 1:29:02]: Then need to go back and then try to insert [1:29:03, 1:29:05]: And let staff work on um [1:29:05, 1:29:07]: Recognition done at the recognition [1:29:07, 1:29:09]: event as well as um [1:29:10, 1:29:11]: The grants administration. [1:29:12, 1:29:13]: We need to put that in. [1:29:14, 1:29:16]: And then that's gonna change the amount again. [1:29:16, 1:29:19]: And all of this will be going to the general fund, so we'll just be [1:29:19, 1:29:21]: uh updating the germ fund. [1:29:22, 1:29:25]: So otherwise with this otherwise you would should find her [1:29:27, 1:29:38]: If I understand correctly, then with these adjustments made, then you have to make some uh with these adjustments made that have been approved, you gotta go back and read and put this all online to make sure we got a balanced budget. [1:29:38, 1:29:42]: And if I understand correctly, that means that uh [1:29:42, 1:29:50]: We could not uh uh approve this particular budget this night. We would have to continue this. I'm asking hold on, I'm asking the question to the treasurer. Relax, please. [1:29:51, 1:29:55]: So I I'm just asking you, Mr. Wiggins. So so is that where you're going with this or not? [1:29:55, 1:29:59]: Well well yeah, exactly where that's where I was going. I mean, I was also [1:30:00, 1:30:01]: Want to mention too. [1:30:01, 1:30:03]: You know, with these changes, if you're approving these changes. [1:30:04, 1:30:04]: The [1:30:05, 1:30:06]: А [1:30:06, 1:30:07]: If you approve the budget [1:30:08, 1:30:09]: Tonight. [1:30:09, 1:30:10]: The [1:30:10, 1:30:13]: knowing that these changes will be will change the uh [1:30:14, 1:30:15]: It tore them out. [1:30:16, 1:30:16]: You know [1:30:17, 1:30:18]: That's not a problem. [1:30:18, 1:30:19]: We can go forward. [1:30:19, 1:30:20]: Bud beer. [1:30:21, 1:30:32]: All right, just need clarification. All right. On that note, this is a public hearing. So uh if unless there's any other comments from the from the council right now, we need to open this up for a public hearing. [1:30:32, 1:30:35]: Yeah, I I have one comment if I'm right here, sir. [1:30:35, 1:30:41]: That Mr. Wiggins, we're on here. Make these adjustments as this meeting goes along. It's time to approve the budget. [1:30:42, 1:30:44]: It's time to approve the budget. Make the adjustments. [1:30:45, 1:30:48]: As we move along in this meeting so we can vote on the budget tonight. [1:30:50, 1:30:50]: All right. [1:30:50, 1:30:53]: So it's what were you saying, um [1:30:54, 1:30:57]: Suspend it and then just bring it back to the mayor. [1:30:57, 1:30:58]: Tonight and then you [1:30:59, 1:31:02]: Y'all gonna y'all gonna go ahead and approve it tonight? [1:31:02, 1:31:04]: Well you can't approve it right now. [1:31:04, 1:31:07]: Well, what first of all, let me before we go that well. [1:31:07, 1:31:11]: He's indicating that we need to prove everything tonight, but we'll find out from the rest of the council just a second. [1:31:11, 1:31:31]: What I want to do now is a public hearing. I want to open up the public hearing. Don't know if we have anybody out there that wants to make any comments and I'm gonna need to ask the question. It's a process we need to go through. So on that note, I'm opening up the public hearing uh for anybody that is for the budget as it is stands right now, or any comments for the budget. And I note I need to ask uh the [1:31:31, 1:31:32]: They [1:31:32, 1:31:36]: The clerk, whether not is anybody out there that she that uh wants to make a [1:31:36, 1:31:45]: Any type of comment for and same thing with the PIO if see anything on Facebook Live or Facebook that needs to make any comments and need to have access to do this. [1:31:45, 1:31:51]: Mayor, this is the clerk. There are two comments, but they are both anonymous and will not be read into the record. [1:31:51, 1:31:53]: All right. Uh how about to um PL? [1:31:54, 1:32:06]: Good evening, Airford. For Facebook, we do have several comments. Nothing directly saying for or against, but there was some talk about youth council budget, people expressing um they were not for it being cut. [1:32:08, 1:32:10]: Okay. Um [1:32:10, 1:32:30]: Hmm. Okay. Well that was what I was asking was for, but now let's ask of get for I'll close that piece. No, no problem. Close that piece. And so is anybody that's for against the the budget uh from either Facebook and or from what Ms. Holliday can find that's against the actual budget itself. And uh if there are no one on phase four. [1:32:30, 1:32:33]: Yeah, no one on Facebook is saying for or no. [1:32:33, 1:32:52]: Okay. All right. All right. Good deal. On that note, I'm going to close the the public hearing on the budget. Now, as the budget has been read and with the amendments and changes of the budget uh that were approved this evening, is there a motion to approve the budget as with those adjustments that were made this evening? [1:32:53, 1:32:54]: Como [1:32:54, 1:32:56]: So move. Is there a second? [1:32:56, 1:32:57]: A circuit. [1:32:58, 1:32:59]: All right. [1:32:59, 1:33:01]: Any further discussion? [1:33:01, 1:33:09]: Mayor I just have one question if you don't mind. Yes, sir. And I I guess the city attorney can get a um can answer this. [1:33:10, 1:33:11]: How are we having a uh [1:33:11, 1:33:12]: Their budget. [1:33:13, 1:33:13]: Oh. [1:33:14, 1:33:21]: We'll open it to the public for comments on a budget that has not been solidified nor w with with the amendments and they're gonna be changes. [1:33:22, 1:33:24]: How are we how are we counting this as a um [1:33:25, 1:33:25]: But [1:33:26, 1:33:33]: Uh as a budget hearing when when when there there are uh several amendments to the budget, this is not the final budget. [1:33:36, 1:33:39]: Once it comes back, we'll see whether or not the mayor will take additional comments on it. [1:33:42, 1:33:47]: I mean and and then councilman it I would also think if that's the case then we would have [1:33:47, 1:33:52]: an inordinate number of budget meetings because then you would have to have three meetings after all amendments. [1:33:53, 1:33:57]: So it could end up lasting like six different meetings to have a the budget passed. [1:33:59, 1:34:03]: Well well well I guess um asked the question is is how can we have an official [1:34:04, 1:34:09]: budget hearing with the citizens on an amount that has yet to be amended. [1:34:09, 1:34:10]: That's [1:34:12, 1:34:13]: I would say [1:34:14, 1:34:19]: I will say Councilman Blount, this isn't official. It's uh it's been publicized as a as a public hearing. [1:34:20, 1:34:32]: and and and individuals can make comments that's why I asked for and against as part of the process. All due respect mayor, I appreciate that. Um it my question is directed to Mr. Berry as far as legal is on this. Okay. [1:34:34, 1:34:38]: Right. I mean I I think that the treasurer is able to calculate those amounts. [1:34:40, 1:34:42]: Otherwise then we would have a uh [1:34:43, 1:34:44]: Yeah, like I said, we would [1:34:45, 1:34:48]: have to have meetings, then no more further amendments and continue. [1:34:49, 1:34:50]: Um [1:34:51, 1:34:55]: You know, c continue, I guess, with no discussion or or any input. [1:34:55, 1:35:00]: And freeze it in time as long as the treasurer can finalize those amounts, I think that's okay. [1:35:00, 1:35:02]: I can state the amount now. [1:35:05, 1:35:09]: Oh you can, Mr. Wade? Yes, because'cause there's only been two two amounts that's [1:35:10, 1:35:12]: That's been stated. Sixty five thousand. [1:35:13, 1:35:15]: And the twenty thousand then I added [1:35:15, 1:35:17]: Twenty three percent on to the sixty three. [1:35:17, 1:35:19]: I mean to the sixty five. [1:35:19, 1:35:20]: Okay. [1:35:21, 1:35:21]: Right now. [1:35:21, 1:35:23]: With those changes. [1:35:25, 1:35:27]: General fund would be at eighteen. [1:35:27, 1:35:30]: Million four hundred eighty thousand. [1:35:30, 1:35:33]: Nine hundred and ninety three dollars and twelve cents. [1:35:35, 1:35:36]: Okay. [1:35:37, 1:35:44]: And if I can just add real quick, any other position that's added could be added through a budget amendment once salary and and [1:35:44, 1:35:47]: You know, is known once the city manager comes on board. [1:35:48, 1:35:48]: That's correct. [1:35:50, 1:35:52]: I'm sorry. [1:35:52, 1:35:58]: I just wanted to um restate the number eighteen four eight zero nine nine three point one two. [1:35:58, 1:35:59]: That's correct. [1:35:59, 1:36:00]: Thank you. [1:36:01, 1:36:15]: Mr. Thomas, you had your hand raised. Well, I I I I just wanted to say that this budget hearing and and other public hearings, it's no different than a zoning hearing where you have conditions. [1:36:15, 1:36:19]: So I I just want to start to just make that statement. Yeah, it it's a public hearing. [1:36:20, 1:36:21]: Thank you. [1:36:22, 1:36:37]: All right. Uh the motion's been made in the second to with the appropriate changes that have been approved tonight that the budget the 2022 budget be approved. That's the motion on the floor. So all in favor of motion, please indicate. One last question mayor before I vote, if you don't mind. [1:36:37, 1:36:39]: Okay. So go ahead. [1:36:40, 1:36:42]: Mr. Wiggins, with the identified [1:36:42, 1:36:42]: Um [1:36:43, 1:36:47]: Sources for the general budget with identified sources. [1:36:48, 1:36:50]: Would this be considered a balanced budget? [1:36:52, 1:36:54]: Yes, because what [1:36:55, 1:36:58]: What we will have to do is just um uh increase our revenue. [1:37:00, 1:37:02]: on the um on the reserves that [1:37:04, 1:37:10]: No, what I'm what I'm I guess you missed the question. With this 18 million off a budget that what what was our budget last year? [1:37:12, 1:37:16]: From the on the general fund was twelve point eight. [1:37:17, 1:37:23]: Yeah. You look you're looking at twelve point eight, so you look you're looking you're looking at almost six million dollars more. [1:37:23, 1:37:25]: What I'm asking you is [1:37:25, 1:37:31]: Is that with with the addition to this budget, which is almost six dollars more, six thousand six million more. [1:37:32, 1:37:38]: with the identified funds for this budget is this would this be considered a balanced budget? [1:37:39, 1:37:40]: Yeah. [1:37:40, 1:37:42]: It it would be considered a balanced budget. [1:37:42, 1:37:43]: Yes. [1:37:43, 1:37:44]: Okay. [1:37:44, 1:37:45]: Because sh yes. [1:37:46, 1:37:51]: 'Cause the expenditures is gonna match the revenue. Revenue is gonna match the expenditures. Yes. [1:37:51, 1:37:52]: Yeah. Okay. [1:37:52, 1:37:56]: Motion's been made in second. All in favor of motion, please indicate. [1:37:57, 1:38:06]: Okay, it's actually a unanimous decision. Fantastic. Okay. Congratulations. We now have a 2022 budget. Look forward to execution of this budget. [1:38:06, 1:38:08]: We're gonna move on to um [1:38:09, 1:38:14]: Murray Manor's Conference Center Building Renovations presented by Ms. Kim Jordan. [1:38:14, 1:38:15]: Please. [1:38:15, 1:38:15]: Ms. Jordan. [1:38:16, 1:38:21]: Yes, thank you. Um Ikani Will Ingram is going to assist with this as well. [1:38:21, 1:38:23]: Okay, Mr. Ingram, good deal. [1:38:26, 1:38:28]: So we have um [1:38:30, 1:38:33]: I think a presentation to put on the screen. Is that right, Carnel? [1:38:36, 1:38:39]: Yes, I'm gonna be pulling that up very shortly. Thank you. Okay. [1:38:40, 1:38:42]: Okay, so with the um [1:38:42, 1:38:44]: Building renovations. [1:38:44, 1:38:49]: The the building was built in two thousand and two, which makes it nearly twenty years old. [1:38:50, 1:38:54]: And it's in need of repairs, a facelift and a refresh to be competitive in the market. [1:38:55, 1:38:57]: Um, not to mention the roof has been leaking. [1:38:57, 1:38:59]: And the ballroom. [1:38:59, 1:39:00]: Um needs [1:39:01, 1:39:02]: Some work done, especially the carpet. [1:39:05, 1:39:07]: А не се кампан би реп'я. [1:39:09, 1:39:10]: So [1:39:15, 1:39:18]: We did a walkthrough recently. [1:39:18, 1:39:20]: To assess what [1:39:20, 1:39:21]: The uh [1:39:23, 1:39:24]: the the ballroom needed. [1:39:26, 1:39:29]: And uh in that walkthrough. [1:39:30, 1:39:31]: Uh we have uh [1:39:32, 1:39:33]: We've we've looked at [1:39:34, 1:39:37]: different the different things that we'll have to do with the roof. [1:39:37, 1:39:40]: Uh we talked with Gordon uh roofing. [1:39:40, 1:39:45]: That price is like ninety four thousand two hundred and fourteen dollars. [1:39:46, 1:39:47]: uh the kitchen [1:39:48, 1:39:52]: And ballroom was about a hundred and seventy thousand in the lower ballroom. [1:39:53, 1:39:54]: Was uh [1:39:55, 1:40:01]: uh uh 70 000. now we have to make some considerations how do we best execute it [1:40:02, 1:40:04]: uh in in a timely manner. [1:40:04, 1:40:06]: That is that is what [1:40:07, 1:40:09]: We are bringing forth to you now. [1:40:09, 1:40:20]: um that we as a team have to go in and do these things and and and and we would want to see if this is the way that the council would want to move. [1:40:20, 1:40:23]: To renovate the moral. [1:40:23, 1:40:27]: Mo Mandor Conference and to bring it back and uh [1:40:27, 1:40:34]: uh for for being able to rent for the different events and and things that we would be having there. [1:40:37, 1:40:47]: And that includes the l lower level, not just the ballroom, but the lower level, which has these uh meeting rooms one through three, which hold about tw uh sixty people when it's open. Um [1:40:47, 1:40:57]: and combined. The training room holds about 40, medium room four holds about 30 people. And it's a total of 5,000 square feet downstairs as well. And it has a separate entrance, obviously. [1:40:58, 1:40:59]: We would um [1:40:59, 1:41:08]: We would like to see the center get the roof fixed first, uh, followed by renovations upstairs and and downstairs. And we see the lower level. [1:41:09, 1:41:09]: Um [1:41:10, 1:41:12]: At a lower [1:41:12, 1:41:15]: rental price point in line with the Ted Strickland. [1:41:15, 1:41:16]: Which we can [1:41:17, 1:41:18]: Make it, you know, around [1:41:18, 1:41:24]: the four hundred, four fifty dollar mark to rent the spaces, which would be comparable to what the tenth strength was. [1:41:27, 1:41:47]: Uh additional uh things that we would consider is a sound system taking out some of the uh countertops in there, putting uh ice machines, so it is an independent event center. Uh the downstairs of the Merrander becomes an independent event center. [1:41:47, 1:41:49]: Uh, much as the Ted Strickland. [1:41:49, 1:41:53]: Uh, since we don't have that facility online anymore. [1:41:57, 1:41:58]: Uh [1:41:58, 1:42:01]: We looked at the bathrooms. Um [1:42:01, 1:42:10]: uh as well. And it's minimal, you know, color schemes and things like that, but it's minimal renovation that would go there. [1:42:10, 1:42:13]: The total cost that we would be looking at. [1:42:14, 1:42:14]: Four. [1:42:14, 1:42:16]: The moral mandor. [1:42:16, 1:42:18]: is uh three thousand [1:42:18, 1:42:19]: Um [1:42:20, 1:42:20]: It's uh [1:42:21, 1:42:30]: Oh, we would look at uh we would look at uh renting it out. It would be about the total renovations three hundred and fourteen thousand dollars. [1:42:30, 1:42:31]: Would be our cost. [1:42:31, 1:42:32]: To do that. [1:42:35, 1:42:40]: Yeah, we already have three thousand thirty-four thousand two hundred and fourteen. Is that [1:42:40, 1:42:41]: Estimated cost. [1:42:41, 1:42:46]: And that includes the roof repair and upstairs that includes all repairs. [1:42:47, 1:42:50]: And we do already have one hundred thousand dollars budgeted. [1:42:50, 1:42:56]: uh that was approved previously and or proposed and it's m uh moving forward with that. [1:42:58, 1:42:59]: Okay. [1:43:00, 1:43:06]: Are there any more slides that you need to show? Because right now that would be all of the slides I'm gonna [1:43:06, 1:43:07]: Undo that. [1:43:14, 1:43:20]: And we are reviewing and working through the contract with the attorneys to um you know modify this once we have [1:43:20, 1:43:23]: Um all the renovations completed. [1:43:23, 1:43:24]: And then we'll [1:43:24, 1:43:26]: Uh we want to show case. [1:43:26, 1:43:28]: [6209.3, 6211.8]: And bring the public in and get them excited about booking. [1:43:32, 1:43:35]: Um I'm yeah, we're already we get calls every day to book [1:43:35, 1:43:37]: uh the rooms, a ballroom. [1:43:37, 1:43:42]: Whatever. In fact, I had someone call me uh wanting to book a wedding for twenty twenty three. [1:43:43, 1:43:45]: So as soon as we get um [1:43:45, 1:43:53]: It up and running again and a showcase and something that can really uh make a mark in the community. We'll have a grand reopening and bring all these. [1:43:54, 1:43:55]: Perspective clients and [1:43:56, 1:44:10]: And we've also talked to tourism. We've talked to tourism in Henry County and there are dollars there. We're discussing that with Mr. Wiggins and we'll have some additional numbers that we can share with you. [1:44:10, 1:44:13]: a as well as a marketing plan. [1:44:13, 1:44:15]: to uh for reopening. [1:44:17, 1:44:19]: All right, uh thank you. Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. [1:44:19, 1:44:21]: Thank you, Mayor. Um [1:44:21, 1:44:37]: Uh Mrs. Jordan and Mr. Ingram, um, you know, I've I've had extensive conversation with both of you and Mrs. Jordan, um, since you've been on board and I'm I'm not sure if you had uh an official uh welcoming, um, but welcome to the city of Stockbridge. [1:44:37, 1:44:38]: Thank you so much. [1:44:39, 1:44:59]: You know, you and I have have spoken um a couple of times and and I sort of mentioned to you about a little about the history and with the TED, you know, sharing with you um how we repurposed the TED and that that there was a need for a facility that uh citizens uh economically [1:44:59, 1:45:02]: uh could could actually use. So I'm glad to hear. [1:45:02, 1:45:08]: Uh on the rental uh fee that you're proposing for the downstairs at at the mural. [1:45:09, 1:45:19]: uh I I think is is is really doable. I know we said when we repurposed the the TED that the green room would be that facility, but I am in agreement with [1:45:19, 1:45:22]: Some of the conversations uh, you know, about the green room. [1:45:22, 1:45:27]: So I'm I'm excited and glad to know that you are put your heads together. [1:45:27, 1:45:30]: And you have made the downstairs affordable. [1:45:30, 1:45:31]: Um [1:45:31, 1:45:35]: We all know that um that the mural needs the renovation. [1:45:36, 1:45:38]: Um I made a note of the amount. [1:45:39, 1:45:42]: I'm not gonna get into that because I I think you all are sort of vetting that. [1:45:43, 1:46:03]: But I'm in agreement with that, uh, the fact that it does need the renovation. And again, you know, uh I I speak toward the future. Uh I learn from the past, but we have to grow toward the future. So I know we have to sort of be about these things and making the murmur, even though we have the cultural art. [1:46:03, 1:46:05]: facility coming on in a year two. [1:46:05, 1:46:07]: But we still have to make the mural. [1:46:07, 1:46:09]: A viable uh entity. [1:46:10, 1:46:30]: So we have to do what we have to do, you know, to do that. So I just want to thank you and Mr. Ingram for your due diligence in that is way overdue. I wish we could have gotten some of this done in 2021 during the pandemic, but I know, you know, Mrs. Jordan, you just [1:46:30, 1:46:41]: just got here and I know we um we lost a dear friend and our past um uh manager there. So um, you know, it's never too late to go false. I just wanna say, um [1:46:41, 1:46:44]: Let let's go forward in some manner. Thank you, Eric. [1:46:45, 1:46:46]: Thank you. [1:46:47, 1:46:48]: Any other questions from the council? [1:46:49, 1:46:51]: A reference to the presentation. [1:46:54, 1:47:07]: All right, so is there a motion to accept this proposal of uh going forward with this um particular renovation and roughly start with$100,000 for the roof, but also I guess the total amount is estimated at$334,000. [1:47:10, 1:47:11]: Clear motion. [1:47:11, 1:47:12]: At all. [1:47:12, 1:47:16]: I gotta I'd just like to ask a couple more questions. Okay, what's your question, sir? [1:47:17, 1:47:25]: Again, the Merr Manders is a functional facility. We've been moving forward. The priority was the roof in order to get it going. [1:47:25, 1:47:28]: We got the roof in there. The downtown is a good option for. [1:47:29, 1:47:29]: Um [1:47:30, 1:47:33]: Do we have a itemized list that we could have? [1:47:34, 1:47:38]: looked at for these particular repairs, or do we just kind of got a broad base? [1:47:39, 1:47:52]: Um for that. No, no, there is a list in your package of the specific things in the Merle that we would do. There's the chandeliers, the sconches, the floors, the paint. [1:47:52, 1:47:56]: Uh the sound proofing, all those items are in the [1:47:57, 1:47:58]: In the in [1:47:59, 1:48:19]: Right, I saw the items. Maybe I just scanned over. I did was there a dollar amount assigned to those items or was it just listed? The ballpark for upstairs in the ballroom is one hundred and seventy thousand. Right, right. Is is that that's my assertion. There was a ballpark figure of a hundred and seventy thousand, but yes, what I'm saying is that [1:48:19, 1:48:38]: Have broken down in between the what that what is represented in the$170,000 uh itemized. That would be these items upstairs. It would be the sconched chandeliers and turn those into LED. When the when the um uh mural was first designed. [1:48:38, 1:48:39]: Uh [1:48:39, 1:48:47]: in the in 2000 uh the atmosphere was for cozy so the lighting was [1:48:48, 1:48:55]: uh dimmable but it wasn't bright. Now in the in the 2020s, um [1:48:55, 1:49:08]: People want to take selfies. So you need LED, lots of lighting. Uh so that would be included. The the colors on the walls, uh borders, nine slip floor versus carpet. The carpet. [1:49:08, 1:49:28]: Attracts bacteria. That's a high humidity room, uh, and we haven't seemed to be able to control the high humidity. So when it rains and the air conditioning is on, uh it creates mold. We've had we've had three or four incidents of that. So taking out that carpet, making it a [1:49:28, 1:49:46]: nine slip floor that's where most commercial places are going now with that so all those things would be in we've renovated the kitchen we have a new stove uh and confection oven in the kitchen so it would be just aesthetics of painting and so forth in the kitchen uh so [1:49:46, 1:49:51]: That would be the upstairs, some of the upstairs items that we would have. [1:49:52, 1:49:52]: Uh [1:49:53, 1:50:06]: Uh so the bathrooms again, that would be lighting and and some paint in the entries of those in the main doorway or main entryway as well. That would be included in that 170, those items. [1:50:06, 1:50:10]: Let me be quite frank with you, it honest is that listen. [1:50:10, 1:50:15]: We subsidize this facility every year with a significant amount of money. [1:50:15, 1:50:21]: And then obviously we're not um ever it's not gonna be a situation where we're turning around. [1:50:21, 1:50:23]: A tremendous amount of profit. [1:50:23, 1:50:24]: Uh from so [1:50:25, 1:50:29]: Where is the identified funding gonna come from, Mr. Wiggins? [1:50:32, 1:50:34]: Oh right there you have fifty thousand. [1:50:35, 1:50:38]: in the um budget right now and I think um [1:50:39, 1:50:40]: With the approval [1:50:40, 1:50:42]: I think the Rufus were gonna get started. [1:50:43, 1:50:44]: This this [1:50:44, 1:50:45]: For before [1:50:46, 1:50:47]: Um yeah, you were. [1:50:48, 1:50:56]: So we've hold on, this request is for three hundred and thirty three hundred and how much thousand dollars. Where's that? Where are we funding that from? [1:50:56, 1:50:59]: If I can print, I I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll get to that. [1:50:59, 1:51:02]: Okay. This this right now the fifty thousand. [1:51:02, 1:51:06]: Which will which is this would be a project which will move over into [1:51:07, 1:51:08]: Twenty twenty two. [1:51:08, 1:51:11]: Twenty twenty two, you have a hundred and fifty thousand. [1:51:11, 1:51:14]: So the hundred and fifty thousand plus the fifty thousand is two hundred. [1:51:15, 1:51:16]: Mm-hmm. [1:51:16, 1:51:18]: Talking um [1:51:19, 1:51:24]: Uh final about hotel using hot you can use hotel motel toward this. [1:51:25, 1:51:28]: And we can take we can use 134,000 dollars. [1:51:28, 1:51:29]: Of hotel motel. [1:51:30, 1:51:31]: To finish out the project. [1:51:32, 1:51:40]: Okay, well that sounds very so we uh so we can use hotel motel tax for this to for the difference. Okay. Okay. [1:51:40, 1:51:42]: Something you can use for that. And now [1:51:42, 1:51:47]: We can we can now we're gonna make sure we're gonna confirm this and talk to Mr. Washington. [1:51:47, 1:51:48]: And uh Mr. Berry [1:51:49, 1:51:51]: And I think the corner was already [1:51:51, 1:51:53]: All already got some information. [1:51:54, 1:51:55]: From his look. [1:51:55, 1:52:00]: From um here we came. Laura Lucre at tourism. [1:52:00, 1:52:10]: And uh so she has said that of the we have eight per eight percent uh of of hotel those that hotel tax. [1:52:10, 1:52:16]: 18.7% of that eight percent can be used for product development. [1:52:16, 1:52:20]: And so we can use it for any items that we would like. [1:52:20, 1:52:35]: And uh 37.5 percent of that eight percent could is is is unrestricted. So we can use that though those two buckets of the three buckets of that those dollars, those tax dollars that we have uh for. [1:52:35, 1:52:38]: uh for for building fund if we so choose. [1:52:39, 1:52:43]: Mayor, could I ask the attorneys to weigh in? Have they had any type of [1:52:43, 1:52:50]: conversation or do they have an opinion on what was just stated? Uh yeah, you sure you can and they're right here. They hear you. So go right here, please. [1:52:51, 1:52:59]: Mayor Pro Tem, I have not been part of any conversations. But ordinarily hotel motel tax can be used for tourism and that type of activities, but [1:52:59, 1:53:05]: Happy to to have further discussions offline, you know, and and make sure that the text can be used or [1:53:06, 1:53:07]: This can be properly funded. [1:53:08, 1:53:10]: Okay. Based on what based on what [1:53:10, 1:53:12]: I've heard tonight. [1:53:12, 1:53:15]: I'm willing to make a motion to go forward to approve. [1:53:16, 1:53:18]: Uh what has been recommended by uh [1:53:19, 1:53:21]: The Merrill Menders uh staff. [1:53:21, 1:53:27]: Whereas fifty thousand dollars is available this year, another hundred and fifty thousand dollars is available [1:53:28, 1:53:29]: Next year. [1:53:29, 1:53:32]: And with the contingency that [1:53:32, 1:53:35]: The whole tail moltel tax can be made [1:53:35, 1:53:37]: to use for the [1:53:37, 1:53:42]: uh remainder fully funding this project um with those dollars. [1:53:43, 1:53:45]: All right. Is there a second to the motion? [1:53:46, 1:53:48]: Because I I I second that. [1:53:48, 1:53:48]: Okay. [1:53:50, 1:53:53]: I stuck in there with a comment. Yes, sir, you can. [1:53:53, 1:54:06]: I I do second that, but I do want to confirm that the Murray Manders is a uh tourism uh entity and and those funds can be used um for for that as far as uh [1:54:06, 1:54:09]: Uh it's all about tourism. So yes. [1:54:10, 1:54:13]: Yeah, the simple fact that you you advertise on your billboard. [1:54:14, 1:54:20]: uh trying to draw people outside of stockbridge into stockbridge for that particular purpose. [1:54:20, 1:54:21]: Of using mirror manners. [1:54:22, 1:54:24]: It's it's uh you can use hotel motel. [1:54:25, 1:54:30]: Yes. And we have uh some we have some uh uh documentation from [1:54:31, 1:54:31]: See [1:54:31, 1:54:35]: Uh tourism uh director uh мисс локар. [1:54:35, 1:54:39]: To substantiate that that we can share with you. [1:54:41, 1:54:41]: Okay. [1:54:42, 1:54:45]: Good deal. Motion's been made, been seconded. Any further discussion? [1:54:46, 1:54:49]: And if not, uh all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:54:51, 1:54:59]: Mr. Blount. Okay, every now is decision. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Uh Mr. Jordan, Mr. Jordan and Conywell. We're now going to a new bit. [1:55:00, 1:55:02]: They're now going to new business. [1:55:02, 1:55:07]: Council consideration to approve and publish the 2022 public meeting schedules. [1:55:07, 1:55:09]: Uh presented by Miss Holliday, please. [1:55:13, 1:55:15]: Good evening, Mayor Council. Good evening. [1:55:16, 1:55:33]: The clerk's office is presenting the 2022 public meeting schedules for the stock created city council, Main Street Advisory Board, Downtown Development Authority, Planning Commission, Youth Council, and Youth Town Council Advisor. [1:55:33, 1:55:34]: Yeah. [1:55:34, 1:55:36]: Yeah, we're gonna have some type of feedback there. [1:55:36, 1:55:38]: That yeah, she's turned it off. [1:55:38, 1:55:46]: Okay. So upon approval, um, the meeting schedules will be published in the Henry County, I'm sorry, in the Henry Harold, the city's legal organ. [1:55:47, 1:55:53]: All boards and committees have approved their recommended schedules as follows. [1:55:53, 1:56:00]: The DDA will hold its meetings on the third Tuesday of each month virtually until further notice at 6 p.m. [1:56:01, 1:56:12]: The Main Street Advisory Board will hold meetings on the second Friday of each month at 9 a.m. unless otherwise noted, and we'll meet virtually until further notice. [1:56:13, 1:56:19]: The planning commission will meet on the fourth Thursday of each month at 6 p.m. All meetings will be virtual. [1:56:20, 1:56:27]: The Youth Council Advisory Committee will meet on the third Tuesday of each month at 6 30 p.m. in the Patrick Henry meeting room. [1:56:29, 1:56:36]: The youth council will meet on the second Wednesday of each month at five thirty PM in the Levi meeting room. [1:56:37, 1:56:47]: So but before you tonight, Mayor and Council, for the city council meetings and the city council work session meetings, there are two options. There were requests from [1:56:48, 1:56:49]: Staff and others. [1:56:50, 1:56:53]: who are requesting two options. [1:56:54, 1:56:58]: for the meetings for the city council and city council work session. [1:56:59, 1:57:00]: Option number one. [1:57:01, 1:57:04]: Would be for the meeting schedule to remain the same as it currently is. [1:57:05, 1:57:08]: Meeting on the second Monday of each month at six PM. [1:57:09, 1:57:12]: And the last Tuesday of each month at six PM. [1:57:13, 1:57:14]: Option two. [1:57:15, 1:57:19]: Is meeting on the second Monday of the month at six PM. [1:57:20, 1:57:22]: And the last Monday [1:57:22, 1:57:26]: I'm sorry, the last Tuesday for the work session meeting at four PM. [1:57:27, 1:57:32]: There are other options that can be made by anyone. Those those are the two that are being presented. [1:57:33, 1:57:37]: to you tonight. So I'm happy to answer any questions that you may have. [1:57:37, 1:57:39]: Mr. Blount, saw your hand first. Go ahead, sir. [1:57:41, 1:57:53]: Uh uh quick question. I I like that one option, but only only variation that I didn't like is that you had a council meeting actually on uh Valentine's Day. [1:57:54, 1:58:07]: Um on February 14th, we had a uh council meeting on that day. If we can amend that day in itself, uh I I I would like that option. I think it was option one, was it was it one? [1:58:08, 1:58:16]: Yeah, probably. I think we'd have to ask legal on that. Your charter has that the council meets on the second Monday of the month. [1:58:17, 1:58:18]: So [1:58:19, 1:58:21]: I would I would have to ask legal. [1:58:21, 1:58:23]: If we are able to move that [1:58:24, 1:58:25]: They are not. [1:58:28, 1:58:30]: Gentlemen, you have an idea? [1:58:32, 1:58:37]: I need to look at the charter. This is Jeremy. I need to look at the charter. That's what I'm pulling up now. [1:58:37, 1:58:42]: Yeah, it just you know it states that we meet on the second Monday, but whether or not we can [1:58:43, 1:58:55]: beer from that I would need. Well that was just something I mean. I mean uh I'm willing to listen to uh the other council members on on that for the meeting days. I'm fine with whatever they want to do. [1:58:55, 1:58:58]: And we just bring our spouses and loved ones to the meeting with us, right? [1:58:59, 1:59:12]: I don't know if I want to keep them up to one o'clock though. No, you won't you won't. They w they'll force you to to get done with the meeting. It's a joke. It's a joke. Okay. [1:59:13, 1:59:17]: Oh my god. Okay. Any other comments from the council? [1:59:21, 1:59:38]: Okay, I guess as it yeah, go ahead, Mayor Protein. Go ahead. Now I heard something in there about a clause for one of the boards that said all meetings will be virtual. Is that I know that's something that we're doing. We were hoping to move back when then Omicron came up, but can that be specified? [1:59:40, 1:59:43]: That's your planning commission that will meet. [1:59:47, 1:59:51]: Because in a non emergency situation, can they continue to meet [1:59:51, 1:59:55]: Can they specify for the whole year they're gonna meet virtually? [1:59:59, 2:00:13]: Ms. Johnson is on the line. I don't know if well the board has voted, so I don't know if if that would have to go back to the board, but we would need to publish this by January one. No, I need the attorneys to what you're the illegal opinion is what he's asking for, right? [2:00:17, 2:00:37]: I I would imagine as long as we we are in a state of some type of emergency with this pandemic, it would be fine. And I think uh that there has been some legal um approval at the state level, I believe, in reference to this issue. I believe. Um I believe I'm pretty sure it's something that would be further discussed at the Cities United next month as well. We might we're looking at the charter on [2:00:37, 2:00:40]: on the first one and we'll have a we'll look at the second one in just a [2:00:40, 2:00:42]: Okay. Good deal. Thank you. [2:00:45, 2:01:05]: Yeah, I think it uh I think we should be able to do it as long as we comply with open meetings uh regulatory guidance. But in and it's in a pandemic and being in a pandemic, I mean heck, we're all let me clarify. I'm certainly in support of continuing while Omicron is out there and all of that. But can you specify twelve the whole [2:01:05, 2:01:14]: Whole year of 2022, if things improve, that you're gonna say, I'm gonna continue. That's what I'm that's what I'm asking for. [2:01:20, 2:01:23]: Oh yeah, Mr. Thomas Glazer. [2:01:24, 2:01:29]: Not nothing is written in stone. I I I think you can designate tonight. [2:01:30, 2:01:32]: And if you need to come back and modify. [2:01:32, 2:01:33]: Uh [2:01:33, 2:01:35]: I I think you can do that. [2:01:35, 2:01:40]: I don't want us to get caught up in that. I just think if you need to, depending on um [2:01:40, 2:01:43]: You know, what's happening, you know, you can just come back and modify. [2:01:44, 2:01:46]: I would imagine you're probably right about that. [2:01:47, 2:01:52]: Okay. Any other comments in reference to option one or option two for the city council meetings? [2:01:54, 2:01:55]: It's one way or the other. [2:01:56, 2:02:05]: I prefer prefer option one myself, but uh but it's also a simple at least a simple content uh consensus of the council in this aspect. But uh [2:02:05, 2:02:18]: Uh in that aspect. But uh and to repeat in case someone is just joining, option one is to meet at six o'clock for the Monday meeting and also for the work session meeting at six. Option two is to meet at six o'clock. [2:02:19, 2:02:20]: on the Monday meeting and [2:02:21, 2:02:25]: Four o'clock for the work session meeting on the last Tuesday of the month. [2:02:25, 2:02:26]: Mayor. [2:02:26, 2:02:27]: Yes, sir. [2:02:27, 2:02:31]: I will simply say this. The reason that I like the later meeting. [2:02:31, 2:02:36]: Is cause people who work can attend the meeting. When you move it up to three or four o'clock. [2:02:36, 2:02:41]: then people who might ordinarily show up or be participate. [2:02:41, 2:02:59]: They won't. So I'm I'm in favor of option one. No, I understand. And I believe I mentioned that to our attorneys before about that as we had this discussion that was the reason for that to allow more participation from the citizens. We won't be in this pandemic forever. It won't be virtual forever. We'll get back in the city in city hall, city council chambers eventually. [2:03:00, 2:03:01]: Uh Mr. Mutt Blount, go ahead, please. [2:03:02, 2:03:09]: Mayor, I'm I'm in favor also, uh, like I said, with the provision that whatever provision we can make, but I'm in I'm in favor with [2:03:09, 2:03:12]: The work session and the council meeting remaining at six o'clock. [2:03:13, 2:03:15]: Um I don't want to get into that though. [2:03:16, 2:03:23]: That debacle uh we once got it that went down that road before. So I think I think we uh six o'clock crossed the borders for me also. [2:03:23, 2:03:26]: Okay. That's option one. Thank you. Right. [2:03:26, 2:03:30]: Attorneys, do you have any other input uh before we go forward a vote vote here? [2:03:32, 2:03:37]: In our review of it, normally it would allow you all to if it was not gonna be on a Monday or a Tuesday. [2:03:38, 2:03:48]: We looked at the two code sections and normally would allow you to change some meetings, but because it doesn't say you always have to ha have them on a Monday or a Tuesday and it also doesn't say the time, which is with the UL's latitude. [2:03:50, 2:03:51]: The concern that we just have. [2:03:52, 2:04:01]: was making sure that we were able to point to the sections which we can if the council wants to hear where they are, which is section three point one three in the charter. And then under article two. [2:04:02, 2:04:11]: And then under article two with the meetings of calling special meetings, it says that you all normally have meetings on the Mondays and the Tuesdays. It doesn't say always. [2:04:13, 2:04:20]: All right. Well I'm I'm I'm willing to entertain a motion uh folks for whatever option that you want here. So we move forward. [2:04:20, 2:04:20]: Okay. [2:04:21, 2:04:22]: Mere [2:04:22, 2:04:22]: Yes, sir. [2:04:23, 2:04:25]: I'll make a motion to move forward option one. [2:04:26, 2:04:28]: Uh as described by the city clerk. [2:04:29, 2:04:44]: Okay, and also yeah, yes sir. Uh I'm I'm assuming we also need to approve the rest of uh Miss Holliday, approve the rest of the other meetings for rest of the committees as well. Correct, unless there is uh an objection to anyone. All right. Um Mayor Potem, if you can expand your motion, please. [2:04:45, 2:04:49]: Yes, to include all of the boards and committees uh for the city. [2:04:49, 2:04:54]: Okay. Is there a second? Ms. Mr. Blount seconds that okay, any further discussion? [2:04:55, 2:04:58]: Yeah, Miss Barber, yeah. Okay, all all in favor, please indicate. [2:05:00, 2:05:03]: Okay, fantastic. It's a fantastic decision. Thank you very much. [2:05:03, 2:05:04]: Okay. [2:05:04, 2:05:12]: Uh council consideration uh to approve the uh 2022 agenda timeline. Miss Holliday, please. [2:05:13, 2:05:15]: Yes, Mayor and Council. [2:05:15, 2:05:18]: You know, this one is near and dear to the clerk's heart. [2:05:19, 2:05:25]: This is the agenda timeline that is distributed to staff, mayor and counselor. [2:05:26, 2:05:28]: Attorney City City Manager. [2:05:31, 2:05:38]: With a schedule of when documents are due to the clerk's office so that we can present them to the mayor and council. [2:05:39, 2:05:44]: in a timely and efficient manner for you all to be able to have the opportunity and the time [2:05:45, 2:05:46]: to review. [2:05:46, 2:05:53]: before you come to your council meeting to make these decisions. So what it is, it is a schedule for the entire year. [2:05:54, 2:05:56]: For staff. [2:05:57, 2:05:58]: The attorneys. [2:05:59, 2:06:01]: Your city manager. [2:06:01, 2:06:03]: to have and adhere to. [2:06:06, 2:06:08]: And I hope that you all approve it. [2:06:09, 2:06:09]: All right. [2:06:10, 2:06:12]: Oh yeah, Mr. Thomas. I'm sorry. Go ahead, sir. [2:06:12, 2:06:15]: Uh I I move to approve. [2:06:15, 2:06:19]: Uh, it is it is crucial, and I think we have seen. [2:06:19, 2:06:22]: In the last few weeks that when information [2:06:23, 2:06:40]: uh do not come to us in in a timely manner that we cannot make informed decisions. And I I think that is paramount in for the city council to be able to make these decisions. We need to have information and we need time. Uh just like um [2:06:40, 2:06:53]: the these dictionaries that we had here recently, uh you you cannot read through all of that uh within a few days. So I move to uh accept the timeline as presented by the uh clerk's office. [2:06:53, 2:06:55]: All right. Is there a second? [2:06:57, 2:07:05]: Yeah, Miss Barber seconds that okay. Any further discussion? No, yeah, I'm sorry. I didn't believe it. Now let me ask, is this even possible? [2:07:05, 2:07:11]: Let's say we improve the timeline this timeline for the staff, but of [2:07:11, 2:07:15]: Council members want to add items to the agenda. [2:07:15, 2:07:16]: The [2:07:16, 2:07:19]: can be a different date. That time window can be shorter. [2:07:21, 2:07:24]: Is that possible? Because this is like two weeks out. [2:07:25, 2:07:27]: Uh for us to put items on the agenda. [2:07:28, 2:07:30]: But let's say we cut the we leave we [2:07:30, 2:07:35]: The timeline for the staff is the same for the routine ordinary items. [2:07:35, 2:07:36]: But for the council [2:07:37, 2:07:45]: We we might want to cut that down to seven days for us to add another item to uh the agenda is there. Is that possible? [2:07:47, 2:07:55]: Well I respond. Yes. Yes, go ahead. Go ahead and respond. So if it's a seven day window, you all have uh [2:07:55, 2:07:57]: approved a resolution. [2:07:57, 2:08:01]: that we have to have the documents to you one week out. [2:08:02, 2:08:04]: So there would no longer be that window. [2:08:08, 2:08:28]: See, and the other thing I would like to mention, we we uh if you think about it, we what would you do early this evening? We've already amended the agenda with several items and took some things off and added some things, and we'd rather not do that, but it does happen and it happened this evening. So I would think the timeline that the clerk is asking for should remain the same, and hopefully that uh we won't make [2:08:27, 2:08:47]: it a habit to continue to add things or take things off at the last moment. But anyway, that's uh my two cents on this. Mr. Let's move on. Okay, let's move on. Yeah I I agree I agree with you mayor because it it doesn't matter uh if we stick with this because the amendments the agenda is coming they come every week anyway. Uh you know you need is three votes to say okay. [2:08:47, 2:08:56]: And so, you know, that's what you know, that's kind of a mute point right there. But I would I would that this council would actually really move toward having a true work session. [2:08:57, 2:09:17]: That we can agree on certain items that we can start really formulating uh consent agendas for our actual council meetings and uh kind of really get into some type of uniformity when it comes to work session and council meetings so that we won't have one o'clock nights and uh and that council would uh when when that uh when the clerk gets [2:09:17, 2:09:19]: us that information two weeks prior to council meetings. [2:09:20, 2:09:27]: Is that we seek staff and whoever we need to talk to prior to the meetings and not uh let uh the council meeting be the first time we see it and we sit here all night. [2:09:28, 2:09:31]: asking questions that we could ask in between. That's my two cents. [2:09:31, 2:09:39]: All right, then any further comments? Uh okay, so um the motion was made and seconded, is that correct? [2:09:40, 2:09:44]: That's correct, ma'am. Okay. So if that's the case, all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [2:09:45, 2:09:49]: Okay, it is your now institution on that. Okay, thank you very much. Thank you. All right. [2:09:50, 2:09:57]: All right, so um council consideration to approve the 2022 council initiative calendar presented by um [2:09:57, 2:10:00]: Miss Pearson, Zenovia, please. [2:10:02, 2:10:11]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. I'd like to present to you the 2022 Council initiative calendar of events for your approval. [2:10:13, 2:10:13]: Okay. [2:10:14, 2:10:19]: Is there a motion, any questions for her? And if not, is there a motion to accept the calendar as written? [2:10:20, 2:10:23]: Low move. Was there a second? Mr. Thomas seconds that. [2:10:23, 2:10:24]: Uh [2:10:25, 2:10:40]: I'm go ahead, Mayor. Okay. I got Mayor Pro Tem a motion. I actually had a comment. Okay. No problem, sir. Mayor Pro Tem made that motion. Mr. Thomas seconded that motion. Mr. Thomas, what was your comment? I'm I'm I'm I'm um went back up. Am I assuming you're second the motion, sir? Is that correct? [2:10:42, 2:10:47]: Yeah, I second I I I I know there's a motion and I know it needs to be second. [2:10:47, 2:10:50]: I can go ahead and second that and I can make my comment. [2:10:51, 2:10:53]: Um, you know, after that, which is gonna be um [2:10:55, 2:10:56]: Uh-huh. [2:10:56, 2:11:00]: Let me just let me just comment the the carame handbrick. [2:11:00, 2:11:04]: event uh is normally the um [2:11:04, 2:11:18]: the third Saturday. Uh I have not confirmed that with the organization. That may be the only change, but it it's it's not a deal breaker. I I I think uh once that's confirmed, I can come back at any time and um [2:11:18, 2:11:20]: As for um [2:11:20, 2:11:22]: A modification, so it's not a problem. [2:11:22, 2:11:25]: Okay. As long as it does does not conflict. [2:11:25, 2:11:27]: From what I can tell. [2:11:27, 2:11:32]: Uh with the calendar, it does not conflict. So I'll I'll just come back, but I do approve. [2:11:33, 2:11:41]: Okay. Absolutely. So motion the motion to made mid-second. Any further conversation? And if not, all in favor motion all supporting the motion, please indicate. [2:11:42, 2:11:44]: Okay, so now appreciate it. Thank you, Council. [2:11:46, 2:11:50]: Okay, council consideration approved the 2022 events calendar. [2:11:51, 2:11:53]: Presented by Miss Kim Jordan, please. [2:11:54, 2:12:12]: Uh yes, sir. Um the events team has included the proposed 2022 list of scheduled events in your packet. We look forward to a great year of fun-filled activities and celebrations for the citizens of Stockbridge. We have added three new events for next year, the Fourth of July extravaganza. [2:12:13, 2:12:17]: Uh in the city of Stockbridge centennial celebration as well as a Halloween festival. [2:12:18, 2:12:22]: Um, does anyone have any questions about the calendar or do I need to share it? [2:12:23, 2:12:25]: Yeah, uh would be wood somewhere. [2:12:25, 2:12:36]: Yeah sure. If see if you can share that'd be fine. So the council. Yeah, but we we need to display that so the public can see it. This meeting is for them. So let's see that and then uh have a quick follow-up question. [2:12:37, 2:12:39]: Okay, let me s [2:12:40, 2:12:40]: Mm. [2:12:41, 2:12:42]: I can get this. [2:12:46, 2:12:46]: Sorry. [2:12:51, 2:12:51]: Yep. [2:12:52, 2:12:54]: I'm so sorry. I thought I had it ready to go. [2:12:57, 2:12:58]: Oh my [2:12:58, 2:13:01]: So if I'll ask my question while she's looking for that. [2:13:03, 2:13:07]: I think we have we have agreed uh that we were gonna have the [2:13:07, 2:13:10]: uh career expos or the job fairs. [2:13:10, 2:13:17]: Uh are they allocated for in any way in time or you just gotta wait till we get with goodwill on that? [2:13:18, 2:13:19]: Can you see the calendar now? [2:13:19, 2:13:26]: Yeah, we can now, yes. Oh one. Okay. [2:13:28, 2:13:29]: That's your question. [2:13:29, 2:13:33]: Mayor Pro Tem, we we are in discussions with the [2:13:34, 2:13:37]: Uh we are discussions with the uh Goodwill. [2:13:37, 2:13:38]: To [2:13:38, 2:13:43]: to to uh have another I uh to have that book uh job fair in April. [2:13:44, 2:13:55]: Yeah, certainly. I just want to follow up on that. With these times and these employers struggling to find employees, we need to do our part uh to make sure that uh we're we're leaning forward. [2:13:56, 2:14:01]: Yes, sir. We plan to have a robust fair this year with many different industries from the community. [2:14:02, 2:14:03]: Because of the um [2:14:03, 2:14:07]: wanna engage with the community and promote working and getting back to work and helping [2:14:07, 2:14:11]: Helping the ka uh the industries and businesses hire people. [2:14:11, 2:14:14]: There's so many that need need staff. [2:14:15, 2:14:21]: So we want to and we're gonna include the new police department too for whatever hiring needs they they have. [2:14:22, 2:14:41]: We we also will be doing community engagement with uh as as Ms. Jordan said, with some of those uh community uh uh uh uh companies that are in the community uh that to bring them in ourselves, you know, to engage them ourselves to let them know about this event. [2:14:43, 2:14:43]: Thank you. [2:14:44, 2:14:48]: And we hope to have the lower level of the Merlmanders up and running so we can have um [2:14:48, 2:14:52]: Yeah, a lot of people coming in and out and going to different tables and talking to different [2:14:53, 2:14:55]: Hopefully, you know, applying right there on site even. [2:14:57, 2:15:02]: Okay. Any further comments? Oh sorry. Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [2:15:03, 2:15:04]: Yes. Um [2:15:05, 2:15:06]: So [2:15:07, 2:15:09]: I know that at our last meeting we approved. [2:15:10, 2:15:10]: Um [2:15:11, 2:15:12]: A Halloween. [2:15:12, 2:15:14]: Festival on Halloween Day. [2:15:15, 2:15:15]: Mm-hmm. [2:15:15, 2:15:16]: As a city. [2:15:17, 2:15:21]: We also have Cal Haven Vent who's going to be doing her [2:15:21, 2:15:22]: Um [2:15:22, 2:15:24]: Council initiative. [2:15:24, 2:15:26]: Uh the weekend before. [2:15:27, 2:15:29]: And we also have the youth council. [2:15:30, 2:15:31]: Hmm. [2:15:31, 2:15:34]: I think it's gonna do another fall festival. [2:15:39, 2:15:40]: That particular [2:15:40, 2:15:41]: Even [2:15:42, 2:15:43]: whole Halloween. I think we're [2:15:44, 2:15:44]: Um [2:15:46, 2:15:59]: doing overkill. I want to rescind my vote for that Halloween festival. I would think you can't do that at this point, uh, Councilman Barber. I mean that's that's that was that was another meeting and some votes already been taken. [2:16:00, 2:16:00]: Huh? [2:16:00, 2:16:02]: I don't think you can legally do that. [2:16:03, 2:16:06]: Mayor Ford, I'd like to make a motion to rescind my vote. [2:16:07, 2:16:09]: Um for approval of [2:16:10, 2:16:12]: um this Halloween event on Halloween Day. [2:16:13, 2:16:22]: We already have a motion on the floor, I believe. We are I believe we already have a motion on the floor in the discussion phase. You can't put another motion on the floor when we have a pending motion. We have this motion then. [2:16:23, 2:16:24]: I'm sorry. [2:16:25, 2:16:28]: I'll wait until after we take the motion or take the vote. [2:16:28, 2:16:31]: for to approve the schedule. [2:16:31, 2:16:32]: All right. [2:16:32, 2:16:35]: And I'll add my comment and I want to rescind my vote. [2:16:36, 2:16:41]: All right. Uh let's see here. Any further comments about this potential? Yes, sir. [2:16:42, 2:17:00]: Yeah, my qu uh question, um, sorry, I had to move around, um, is that when when we have initiatives and then we move those initiatives to city events and and respectfully we want those initiatives, those city events to because we've taken it to a level where it's become [2:17:01, 2:17:01]: Um [2:17:02, 2:17:22]: To whatever magnitude it is, whether it be the back to school kickoff, the uh trail event uh Mr. uh Alexander does or uh whatever event uh Mr. Thomas or uh Ms. Barber does. But when we make it a city event, uh we want to see it to that that level. Not that now that it's being funded by the city, we understand. [2:17:22, 2:17:33]: And the bench is doing it, and usually there's a committee meetings of boards. I would think that we would at least not to say how the event is going because they are they're city events now, but that. [2:17:33, 2:17:40]: uh that we can at least be aware of the magnitude and what's gonna happen to those events because [2:17:40, 2:17:43]: For me and uh and I guess a lot been going on because we're in a pandemic. [2:17:44, 2:17:49]: Um I found out we was doing a drive-thru uh back to school event uh [2:17:49, 2:17:52]: Within a week of of the band even happening. [2:17:52, 2:18:02]: And uh I I think that when we give those give our initiatives to the city of cities events that we want to have some more, we want to be informed a little bit better and at least see. [2:18:02, 2:18:22]: uh where that event is going because it it if if as an initiative became one of our babies. I'm pretty sure every initiative that everyone does it becomes their baby. And they want to make sure that baby's in good hands and uh they want to see how how it's going and and at least uh at least be aware of all the uh the the ins and outs of those events. So I I [2:18:22, 2:18:31]: However, we need to do to make sure that those things happen, I would like Mr. Conywell and Ms. Jordan to uh help facilitate that if you guys would. [2:18:31, 2:18:35]: Absolutely. Only with the initiatives that become city events. [2:18:36, 2:18:47]: Sure, I'm happy to share the agenda with you and the timeline and everything else. Or I can speak to any of these events right now if you have a question about a particular one you're interested in, what we have thought and brainstormed on. [2:18:48, 2:19:08]: No, no, it's just uh uh Mr uh uh uh Ms. Canyon Mr. Ingram uh uh uh probably inform you on uh what events was formerly uh youth council I'm sorry, not youth council, but was formerly council members events. And we can just go in appropriate appropriate like that. I don't I'm not I'm not saying that to address individually tonight to prolong anything. I just [2:19:08, 2:19:17]: think that we should uh at least have some awareness of what actually going on with those events because I'm pretty sure you guys have a board and you guys meet on what you're doing. That's just only my two centing that. [2:19:17, 2:19:19]: Okay, sure. Happy to do that. [2:19:21, 2:19:27]: All right, the motion is made in the second. So uh should be all the comments, uh all in favor of the motion and this calendar, please indicate. [2:19:30, 2:19:32]: for approval of this um of the calendar. [2:19:37, 2:19:38]: Okay, one. [2:19:38, 2:19:46]: Mayor. Yes, ma'am. I'm sorry, but I don't have who made the motion in the second on the counter. I thought we had a motion in the second on the counter. [2:19:47, 2:19:56]: I d I don't have that recorded. Okay. I thought I made the motion. Okay. Oh unless I'm supposed to Well I thought yeah, I thought you did make the motion. I I'll second I'll second if you don't have one there. [2:19:57, 2:20:03]: Okay. Uh okay. So Alexander s mote made the motion been segmented by uh Calcman Blount then. [2:20:04, 2:20:06]: Okay. All favor motion, please indicate. [2:20:06, 2:20:09]: You'll have to tell me, Mayor, because the screen is up. [2:20:10, 2:20:18]: All right, uh I got one. Got Alexander says yes. Blount says yes. Um okay, there we go. But Thomas says yes. [2:20:19, 2:20:20]: Miss Barber, your vote. [2:20:21, 2:20:25]: opposing. Okay, so I'll upstage. I'll upset. [2:20:26, 2:20:29]: Three zero one motion passed. Okay. [2:20:30, 2:20:33]: And this aspect. All right, Miss Barber, go ahead. [2:20:33, 2:20:40]: Okay, I want to make a motion to rescind my vote from last week's meeting. [2:20:40, 2:20:45]: in support of the how we the cities how we event [2:20:46, 2:20:52]: Now I need to ask first of all, I need to ask even uh the uh the attorneys go whether or not you can legally do that after it's already been passed and [2:20:52, 2:20:59]: So I don't know if you can legally do that at all. It doesn't make sense to me to do that, but I need legal opinion, I suppose, on this. [2:21:00, 2:21:09]: Don't think that can be done. I mean, the council member could make a note for the record in this meeting that she changes her position, but a vote history is history at this point. The vote's been taken. [2:21:09, 2:21:11]: Well Mayor, um Miss Mary. [2:21:12, 2:21:13]: And Mayor Ford. [2:21:14, 2:21:19]: There have been on several occasions that council members have rescinded their vote. [2:21:19, 2:21:21]: As long as having the one's charge. [2:21:22, 2:21:24]: Got approved. [2:21:24, 2:21:26]: Whatever the action is. [2:21:27, 2:21:28]: I can bring it back. [2:21:28, 2:21:29]: To the table. [2:21:29, 2:21:30]: For a vote. [2:21:31, 2:21:34]: I was amongst the authority to a couple. [2:21:34, 2:21:35]: The city Halloween event. [2:21:36, 2:21:37]: It was three two. [2:21:38, 2:21:40]: А но лонго супорт. [2:21:41, 2:21:43]: Moving forward with the Halloween event. [2:21:43, 2:21:45]: As a city event. [2:21:45, 2:21:50]: I explained just a minute ago, the reason being Councilwoman Gantt. [2:21:50, 2:21:51]: Already has a [2:21:52, 2:21:54]: Festival that she's doing. [2:21:54, 2:21:57]: The week well, a couple of days prior to Halloween. [2:21:59, 2:22:03]: The youth also is gonna do a festival the same month. [2:22:03, 2:22:04]: It makes no sense. [2:22:05, 2:22:14]: All right. Council member real quick. Sorry, I understood saying you wanted to change your vote from yes to no. That can't be done. If you want to bring a motion back to council to [2:22:15, 2:22:21]: Undo the action. That that yeah, that would be a full vote. But just changing your vote from yes to no can't be done. [2:22:21, 2:22:28]: Okay, that's what I want to do. I want to bring back a motion to reconsider my vote from the last meeting. [2:22:29, 2:22:37]: No. Mayor real quick. Stand by Mayor Potter. Mr. Tom, sway it, please. Uh [2:22:38, 2:22:43]: Mayor Ford, uh my understanding and knowledge of this uh issue. [2:22:43, 2:22:46]: Any council member [2:22:46, 2:22:49]: That voted in the affirmative. [2:22:50, 2:22:53]: Of only one meet at the very next meeting. [2:22:53, 2:22:56]: The very next meeting of the city council. [2:22:56, 2:23:00]: Uh that person can reconsider if they voted. [2:23:00, 2:23:02]: uh in the affirmative. [2:23:02, 2:23:09]: they can reconsider at the very next meeting, not two meetings past that, but at the very next meeting. [2:23:09, 2:23:14]: that council person that voted in the affirmative can reconsider that vote. [2:23:14, 2:23:23]: Thank you, Councilman Thomas. Stand by please. Stand by, please. Okay, so on that note, uh I'm gonna get to back to attorneys in a second. Mr. Blount. [2:23:24, 2:23:28]: Yeah, Mayor, you know, when this when this vote file first came about. [2:23:29, 2:23:35]: What was understood in that vote and I brought it up? Isn't it if it's not in the minutes, is in is in the recording on the meeting. [2:23:36, 2:23:40]: We talked about coun uh councillor woman's Gantts event. [2:23:41, 2:23:48]: We talked about the uh respecting each other's uh initiatives versus planning council uh uh city events. [2:23:48, 2:23:51]: And yet still it was voted on to move forward. [2:23:52, 2:23:57]: These this is already understood. It was vote it was voted to move forward with. [2:23:57, 2:24:13]: Um and whatever the city's attorneys d determine at this time what what we can and can't do, uh that's that's up to them. But this the knowledge of what we was voting for, and I voted against it, was on the table at that time, that this would be in conflict. [2:24:14, 2:24:23]: Because it was and and Councilwoman Ganttz spoke on it and I spoke on it, that it was in that we thought it was in conflict and an infringement on a counseling's initiative. [2:24:23, 2:24:36]: to have this event. So all the information was always uh always there. So if council uh councilwoman uh barber wants to rescind or whatever that's that's on that but but just to let everyone know this information was already out there. [2:24:37, 2:24:52]: All right. Um now, yeah, Mr. Berry, I see your hand'cause I'm gonna come to you for a legal opinion anyway, in reference to legally, because of what Mr. Thomas said. I don't I have to admit I don't recall that, but is that can we legally that is under Robert's rules, that is correct. The the [2:24:52, 2:24:58]: The side that's in the majority. So if it's three, two who voted in favor of something. [2:24:58, 2:25:01]: The three who voted in favor could have it reconsidered. [2:25:02, 2:25:04]: If it was three two against or or two three. [2:25:05, 2:25:07]: Then the ones who all voted against could reconsider. [2:25:07, 2:25:12]: So it if counts I just don't remember, but if Councilwoman Barber was No, I have it right here. [2:25:12, 2:25:15]: Was in majority she can reconsider. [2:25:15, 2:25:18]: She can make a motion to reconsider. It then takes a vote. [2:25:19, 2:25:20]: To reconsider. [2:25:20, 2:25:23]: That's section two point oh [2:25:23, 2:25:28]: Four point one four oh motions to reconsider. Motion to reconsider of any of the proceedings of council. [2:25:28, 2:25:36]: Shall not be entertained unless it be made by a member who voted with a majority, and such motions should be made at the same or succeeding meeting. [2:25:37, 2:25:46]: Mayor Ford. Yeah, Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. Um, this is my point. I I I voted uh in favor of it and and I I'm still in favor of it. [2:25:47, 2:25:57]: I just want to make sure that how we operate procedurally wise, that it is correct. That's the only reason I I made that that that point because I knew. [2:25:57, 2:25:59]: That was the correct [2:26:00, 2:26:09]: uh information and and that again I don't want us to operate off of uh misinformation but Mayor now the issue at hand is is [2:26:11, 2:26:31]: her ability to reconsider. That's the issue. Now in a point of order call, uh the discussion has to be centered around that particular issue. So the issue is um her ability to re re um to reconsider. I'm still in favor. Again, I just don't want us to operate [2:26:31, 2:26:33]: [8794.1, 8798.7]: All right. All right. Appreciate it. And then we got clarity here. All right. So Miss Barber is back to you now. [2:26:40, 2:26:43]: Want to make a motion to reconsider my vote. [2:26:44, 2:27:00]: Okay. But this is the re so otherwise okay, and that's gotta be a second to that, I suppose, this aspect, right? Turning I respect that I respect the right to do that, Mayor. I second it. It's not reconsider her vote, it would be reconsider the entire vote all the council. Right. The motion. [2:27:01, 2:27:03]: I make a motion to reconsider. [2:27:03, 2:27:04]: The motion. [2:27:05, 2:27:07]: At our previous meeting. [2:27:08, 2:27:09]: Pertaining to [2:27:09, 2:27:14]: The approval of the event as [2:27:15, 2:27:19]: All right, sir. Second to the motion. Point point of order, Mayor. Okay, go ahead, sir. [2:27:20, 2:27:24]: I I I'm still gonna differ with the opinion that that I'm hearing. [2:27:24, 2:27:25]: Um [2:27:27, 2:27:28]: Again. [2:27:28, 2:27:29]: Any council member [2:27:30, 2:27:34]: That voted in the meeting before in the affirmative. [2:27:35, 2:27:44]: I don't think it's a motion that they have to make. I don't know. I think the city clerk can clarify this, but I I just think it it's it's that councilperson's prerogative. [2:27:44, 2:27:46]: And is that council person right? [2:27:47, 2:27:49]: If they want to re consider. [2:27:50, 2:27:51]: Their vote. [2:27:51, 2:28:04]: uh at the very next meeting. I don't I don't think it's something that uh other council members have to approve or not approve. It's that council person prerogative and it's that person right if they want to reconsider. [2:28:05, 2:28:15]: period and then with that reconsideration the remaining vote is what um pushes it forward or uh deny it [2:28:15, 2:28:23]: Now that that's that's that's that's my education on that particular procedure. I don't someone can clarify me if I'm wrong. [2:28:24, 2:28:27]: Yeah, I can read it if you would like. Yeah, sure. Go ahead, please. [2:28:27, 2:28:33]: All right, so the motion to reconsider may be made only by a member who voted on the prevailing side. [2:28:34, 2:28:41]: In the original vote, such as someone who voted yes, if the motion had passed or voted no. [2:28:41, 2:28:43]: If the motion was depleted. [2:28:43, 2:28:49]: The making of the motion to reconsider takes precedence over all other motions and yields to nothing. [2:28:51, 2:28:51]: All right. [2:28:53, 2:28:55]: All right, attorneys, you're good with that as well? [2:28:57, 2:29:02]: Yes, because that what the clerk read contemplates a motion, not just like the the [2:29:02, 2:29:07]: sole power to do it, it requires a motion and then the affirmative vote. [2:29:09, 2:29:15]: All right, so she just it has a pre it has the motion has to come like any other motion has been properly moved and seconded. [2:29:15, 2:29:17]: Right. To reconsider the X. [2:29:18, 2:29:22]: Correct. All right. So it's back to Miss Barber again about about her motion. [2:29:23, 2:29:26]: I just made the motion. Okay. [2:29:27, 2:29:31]: to reconsider your vote, to change the vote. So and it needs to be seconded. Is that correct? [2:29:32, 2:29:34]: Ms. Blount, you second that motion. [2:29:35, 2:29:39]: All right. So I did so is then further discussion on this issue. [2:29:41, 2:29:47]: Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. I I I'm I'm taking issue with with how we're proceeding. [2:29:49, 2:29:52]: And and and the turnees could tell me if I'm wrong. [2:29:52, 2:29:54]: I do not think that [2:29:54, 2:29:55]: Council. [2:29:56, 2:29:58]: Can legislate [2:29:58, 2:30:02]: If a council person wants to reconsider their vote. [2:30:02, 2:30:04]: At the very next meeting, it is a right. [2:30:05, 2:30:10]: for them to reconsider that vote and and if that vote goes away. [2:30:11, 2:30:13]: Then what stands [2:30:13, 2:30:27]: that determines whether it is approved or not. But I don't think council say for instance, okay, it's asking for a motion. So if if her uh if her motion does not get a second, that means that she don't have a right to reconsider. [2:30:28, 2:30:29]: So that's why I think we're wrong. [2:30:30, 2:30:36]: I don't think we can legislate a council person's uh ability. [2:30:37, 2:30:42]: an authority to reconsider that vote at the very next meeting. [2:30:42, 2:30:50]: I don't think I don't think we have a right to do that. Because if you're going to vote whether she has a right to reconsider, that is incorrect. [2:30:51, 2:31:11]: All right, so she she takes her vote away. All right, that's her prerogative to do that. Then we have to go back to we have to vote again on or we go back. Okay. So I guess attorneys will say the the previous vote was three to two. If she takes her vote away, right, then the the remaining votes determine whether it's forward or not forward. Right. [2:31:11, 2:31:13]: And the remaining votes would make a two two. [2:31:14, 2:31:24]: All right. I mean that the that that that's that's my trade, that's my orientation. Okay, so the clerk is I would I would have to ask the clerk about that because I don't think that's ever been done for that. Okay, but that's [2:31:25, 2:31:26]: Um the the meeting [2:31:27, 2:31:33]: Two weeks ago is set in time. It's set in stone. You can't just like erase it. That's why you have a a a motion. [2:31:33, 2:31:36]: To bring it back before council. [2:31:36, 2:31:39]: Otherwise people could change their votes all the time. [2:31:40, 2:31:52]: But and that's why it takes a motion and and approval of the council to put it back on the table for consideration. But the only provision in y'all's charter and documents is a motion to reconsider if you're in the majority. [2:31:53, 2:31:56]: Maybe. If you're in the majority, you can decide if you want the motion to reconsider. [2:31:57, 2:32:00]: Then once you motion to reconsider, it's a motion before. [2:32:00, 2:32:04]: It's a motion before the body. And if the body decides to reconsider. [2:32:05, 2:32:10]: then the body can decide to reconsider because the person in the majority made that decision. And it's a majority decision only. [2:32:11, 2:32:13]: May Mayor Ford, if I may. [2:32:14, 2:32:15]: But Mr. Thomas go ahead, sir. [2:32:16, 2:32:22]: She is not reconsidering the motion of the item. [2:32:23, 2:32:26]: She is reconsidering her individual vote. [2:32:27, 2:32:30]: Not the issue that came forward. [2:32:30, 2:32:35]: Because of her reconsideration, then that determines whether [2:32:36, 2:32:37]: Without her vote. [2:32:38, 2:32:50]: Did it fail or did it pass? You can't change a vote that's already taken place. No, but she can re this is what Melford, this is where I think we're getting confused. She has a right. [2:32:51, 2:32:56]: to reconsider her individual vote. That's all her individual vote. [2:32:57, 2:33:05]: So, what I'm hearing is that we're trying to take away her in the and I don't read I'm sorry to go here because that may be a point in time when any one of us [2:33:06, 2:33:11]: We wanna come forward and reconsider our vote. So we need to just get it right. [2:33:12, 2:33:19]: All right, Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead please. [2:33:20, 2:33:21]: Councilman Tomman is is correct. [2:33:22, 2:33:25]: I'm prepared to make two separate motions. [2:33:26, 2:33:31]: There should be two separate motions. This first one is to reconsider. [2:33:32, 2:33:34]: I want to receive my vote. [2:33:34, 2:33:35]: That's the first one. [2:33:36, 2:33:37]: The second one is [2:33:37, 2:33:38]: The item. [2:33:39, 2:33:41]: If you want to put the item back on the table. [2:33:41, 2:33:43]: Because it would have failed once I rescited my vote. [2:33:44, 2:33:45]: So be it. [2:33:45, 2:33:46]: But [2:33:46, 2:33:49]: There should be two motions made here. [2:33:51, 2:33:53]: All right, stand by. [2:33:53, 2:33:56]: Here and somebody else rescinded their vote. [2:33:56, 2:34:00]: Last year as well. So why are we making a big deal about this? [2:34:02, 2:34:11]: Mayor Pro, I think we sh I think Mayor Ford, we just need to get some patterns from the clerk because I don't know what pass votes and then if she could just tell us whether there's ever been any of this that's happened. [2:34:12, 2:34:19]: That would I think give us a guide. And it has if you will, it did happen last year. [2:34:20, 2:34:33]: It happened with when we had a uh when we voted at a work session, I'm saying at a retreat last year, and Councilwoman Barber came to the meeting uh uh council meeting and changed her vote. It's happened already. [2:34:33, 2:34:37]: The presence of that has already been set and it w and it it was set in stone. [2:34:37, 2:34:38]: With that. [2:34:39, 2:34:43]: So that has happened. Is that has it has happened within the last year. [2:34:44, 2:34:49]: If you all remember that, that uh I'm I'm trying to remember what the item was, but I remember it happened. [2:34:49, 2:34:53]: Um parking item. It was in February of 2020. [2:34:54, 2:34:56]: Or it might be March, one or the other. [2:34:57, 2:34:58]: Um [2:34:59, 2:35:17]: I mean, it can happen. I I guess the conflict is coming with the process. If the process is to make two amendments to do it, then what I mean, we need to go ahead and do that because we're gonna be going all with this litigation all night on something that uh obviously uh the city attorney and the clerk has said she's got the right to do it. It's just how about how do we go about doing it? [2:35:19, 2:35:19]: Mayor. [2:35:20, 2:35:27]: Yes, ma'am. Go ahead. We move on. However, what what you need to consider is the fact that a motion [2:35:27, 2:35:30]: calls for a vote. That's and I'm that's [2:35:30, 2:35:31]: Okay. [2:35:32, 2:35:37]: F to bring a motion to the table, that means you are c asking for a vote. [2:35:38, 2:35:43]: Yes, and I made a motion to reconsider. Can we move forward with our motion, please? [2:35:45, 2:35:48]: All right. So you made a motion reconsider. Was that motion seconded? [2:35:50, 2:35:58]: It was seconded by Councilman Blount. Okay. Third time. All right. All right. So it's been seconded. So all in favor of the motion, please syndicate. [2:36:01, 2:36:02]: Opposed. [2:36:04, 2:36:05]: Abstain. [2:36:06, 2:36:10]: So we so what happened is mayor, we sit here and say [2:36:10, 2:36:13]: That the person has a right to do something, but we we vote not to give her that right. [2:36:15, 2:36:16]: Well that's my point. [2:36:16, 2:36:18]: Mairful that's that's my point. [2:36:19, 2:36:20]: You can't do that. [2:36:21, 2:36:21]: Yeah. [2:36:22, 2:36:24]: I saw council member, can I [2:36:25, 2:36:31]: Can I just give you a hypothetical that I mean the way we did it I think is correct, but I'll give you a hypothetical if y'all approved a zoning. [2:36:32, 2:36:33]: Three to two. [2:36:34, 2:36:41]: Then the the the next day someone goes out and starts building or does something to relying on the zoning. [2:36:41, 2:36:46]: And then two weeks later, someone reverses course by just said, Oops, I I want to change this way. [2:36:47, 2:36:50]: That the the the person has acted. [2:36:50, 2:36:52]: Based on the zoning on the three two boat. [2:36:53, 2:36:57]: So that's why it takes a process, a full council process, a motion. [2:36:58, 2:37:02]: To reconsider and then you actually vote on the the underlying motion again. [2:37:03, 2:37:05]: Rather than a person just simply saying [2:37:05, 2:37:08]: I want to change from yes to no or no to yes. [2:37:08, 2:37:09]: One. [2:37:09, 2:37:10]: Uhtor Berry. [2:37:10, 2:37:13]: I that that action. [2:37:13, 2:37:16]: With a developer or investor. [2:37:16, 2:37:17]: Um [2:37:17, 2:37:21]: That would be based on a contractual agreement, correct? [2:37:22, 2:37:30]: This is not contractual. All I'm asking is to resend m rescind my vote in support of an Halloween event. [2:37:31, 2:37:37]: There is no contractual agreement tied to that. So we have to look at these situations differently. [2:37:38, 2:37:46]: All of that. It's Robert's rules. I mean, I it I I just gave an example of zoning, but I mean we could come up with any example. [2:37:46, 2:37:48]: Totally different situation. [2:37:49, 2:38:01]: Mayor, uh stand by I have my hand up, right? Go ahead, sir. Okay, listen, we got six lawyers up here. Okay, we can go through this process all night. We just voted. [2:38:02, 2:38:17]: We we just voted. So in essence, what's going to happen is uh is is we can continue this process all night or we're gonna have another vote to see whether or not we give you the right, and then once you get the right, then we gotta have a right to overturn it. [2:38:17, 2:38:23]: After that. So what are we going to do? Because we can't keep going back all night with six lawyers discussing it. [2:38:24, 2:38:31]: Is the two attorneys gonna speak and then we're gonna move on or are we gonna have another vote? Let's make a decision. This is going on forever. [2:38:34, 2:38:41]: Well I say we move forward because uh the as far as I'm concerned, if the vote was was taken uh two weeks ago, over a week or so ago. [2:38:41, 2:38:53]: Okay, so let's move on. Ms. Blount, go ahead. And that's fine if if Councilwoman Barber wants to move on, because it's her prerogative. But if but if we're stating that someone has a right to do something. [2:38:53, 2:38:58]: And they do it, but we vote against that right. That's that's kind of interesting to me. [2:38:58, 2:39:02]: If she got a right to change her vote, then we allow that and then we just take another vote. [2:39:02, 2:39:06]: I wouldn't stand between any council member that has the right to change their vote. [2:39:06, 2:39:10]: If they have that right to to say no, you can't change your vote. [2:39:10, 2:39:16]: Well, we did we did we did vote on it in a vote. I mean the vote fail it failed, I believe, is what happened. [2:39:17, 2:39:21]: Uh my m my exactly. So we we're [2:39:21, 2:39:25]: W w we'll say that that person have a right but you vote against the person's right. [2:39:25, 2:39:26]: Uh nice. [2:39:26, 2:39:27]: Okay. [2:39:27, 2:39:33]: Mr. Thomas. I I just want to go on record that uh I I abstain from from from this item. [2:39:33, 2:39:53]: Okay. All right. Good deal. All right. What happened is that we're gonna move on, folks. I've somehow during the process, shame on me, I I missed uh Miss Wheeler. So otherwise there is the uh council consideration to approve the twenty twenty two holiday schedule. Miss Wheeler, please, and excuse me for my eyesight and missing you in this aspect. But go ahead. [2:39:53, 2:39:58]: your recommendation of the 2022 holidays scheduled for for next year. [2:39:59, 2:40:00]: We're asking for your approval. [2:40:03, 2:40:04]: Any questions for Miss Wheeler? [2:40:07, 2:40:13]: Could we could we put a mark could we put it could we display the schedule again for the public to see it? [2:40:14, 2:40:16]: I don't have it on my screen. I don't [2:40:17, 2:40:25]: Have it available to unless you can just if if no if we don't have access to it, put it on a is it a way that you can state what they are, I suppose? Would that help? [2:40:26, 2:40:29]: Well it's uh January first, New Year's Day. [2:40:30, 2:40:35]: Um January seventeenth, Martin Luther King holiday. April fifteenth, Good Friday. [2:40:35, 2:40:37]: May thirtieth, Memorial Day. [2:40:38, 2:40:40]: June nineteenth, which is Juneteenth holiday. [2:40:41, 2:40:43]: July fourth, Independence Day. [2:40:44, 2:40:45]: September fifth, Labor Day. [2:40:46, 2:40:48]: November twenty fourth, Thanksgiving Day. [2:40:49, 2:40:52]: November twenty fifth, the day after Thanksgiving. [2:40:52, 2:40:54]: December twenty fourth, Christmas Eve. [2:40:55, 2:40:57]: And December twenty fifth, Christmas Day. [2:40:59, 2:40:59]: Good. [2:41:00, 2:41:01]: There you have it. Okay. [2:41:02, 2:41:05]: Need a motion to accept the holiday schedule. [2:41:05, 2:41:08]: So move. All the counter. So moved. Mr. Blount, is there a second? [2:41:11, 2:41:12]: Is there a second? [2:41:15, 2:41:20]: Okay, no second for the holiday schedule calendar. Oh Miss Barber, you second that. All right. [2:41:21, 2:41:22]: All in favor, please indicate. [2:41:24, 2:41:29]: Okay, so now she seized. Thank you very much. Thank you, Ms. Wheeler. Okay, let's see here. [2:41:30, 2:41:40]: Council consideration approved the 2020 utility billing billing write-offs, fourteen thousand one hundred and eleven dollars and seventy cents. Mr. Wiggins, please. [2:41:41, 2:41:44]: Yes, this item here staff is asking council to [2:41:45, 2:41:48]: approved the twenty twenty utility building right off and the amount fourteen thousand [2:41:49, 2:41:51]: One hundred and eleven dollars seventy cents. [2:41:51, 2:41:52]: Uh uh. [2:41:53, 2:41:56]: This write off is uh is a decrease from last year. [2:41:57, 2:42:01]: Of about a hundred and sixty seven dollars fifty nine cents last year. [2:42:01, 2:42:02]: It was fourteen thousand. [2:42:03, 2:42:05]: Two hundred and seventy nine dollars and thirty-seven cents. [2:42:06, 2:42:07]: Uh [2:42:07, 2:42:08]: And [2:42:09, 2:42:09]: Right. [2:42:10, 2:42:11]: uh past years uh [2:42:13, 2:42:16]: We uh come and evaluate um [2:42:17, 2:42:18]: The accounts to where [2:42:19, 2:42:23]: Get to a point where these accounts have been sent off to collection. [2:42:23, 2:42:24]: And now we're asking [2:42:25, 2:42:29]: uh council to write them off, but at the same time we are [2:42:29, 2:42:31]: They're in collection that we [2:42:31, 2:42:34]: We'll s we'll let in collection go through the collection. [2:42:34, 2:42:37]: Прос тої ту колекта [2:42:38, 2:42:39]: The funds. [2:42:42, 2:42:44]: Okay. Any question for Mr. Wiggins Council? [2:42:46, 2:42:49]: If not, I need a motion to accept his proposal. [2:42:49, 2:42:53]: Mr. Mr. Alexander, okay, is there a second? [2:42:55, 2:42:56]: Is there a second? [2:43:00, 2:43:03]: Is there a second for this proposal to write this off? [2:43:05, 2:43:06]: Ms. Barber seconds that. [2:43:07, 2:43:08]: Any further discussion. [2:43:09, 2:43:11]: [9792.6, 9795.2]: Any further discussion? If not, all in favor, please indicate. [2:43:17, 2:43:29]: All right. Mr. Thomas, I'm sorry. Uh Abstain. Okay, so it's 301. Okay. Thank you. Um, Mr. Wiggins, counsel. All right. [2:43:31, 2:43:51]: Okay, council consideration appoint a uh member to the council on aging presented by says Mr. Washington present this. So it's only one applicant that I see in a book here. Typically, when we have these particular uh appointments, we go into Zeckling session for this to discuss this uh this aspect. Uh so I don't know if we want to do that in a little [2:43:51, 2:43:58]: later on or if we want to just go ahead and uh appoint this one individual here. Mr. Washington. Mr. Washington, please. [2:43:59, 2:44:05]: I was I was fine with it going forward, John I just for one. I mean if if we want to do all these in executive session again, that's who else called. [2:44:06, 2:44:10]: Okay. [2:44:10, 2:44:20]: Okay. Yes, Mayor Putin, go ahead, please. Yeah, I just want to go ahead and make a motion to apport the appoint Dorita Barber to the council on aging as a representative for the city of Stockbridge. [2:44:20, 2:44:21]: Okay, is there a second? [2:44:23, 2:44:24]: Is there a second? [2:44:26, 2:44:27]: Miss Barber, you second that? [2:44:27, 2:44:30]: I'll second that there's no relations. [2:44:30, 2:44:32]: Okay. [2:44:32, 2:44:36]: All right. Record. Okay. All f all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [2:44:38, 2:44:40]: Okay. Zanasi says thank you very much. [2:44:41, 2:44:42]: Um [2:44:42, 2:45:02]: She's a distinguished veteran, brother. Well, fantastic. I didn't know that, but fantastic. Council consideration, council consideration to appoint members of the Main Street Advisory Board. Once again, this was presented by Miss Braggs and uh didn't know whether or not we want to go to ZECO session for this. I believe all the members that are are up for reappointment. [2:45:02, 2:45:10]: or all individuals that are currently on the main street advisory board. So council, what is your desire? You want to [2:45:10, 2:45:15]: Go wanna go to second session for this or we wanna well I tell you what let Ms uh Mr. Thomas go ahead please. [2:45:16, 2:45:29]: Mayor Ford, I I move to accept um all nominees for reconsideration. I don't think there's anyone outside. I think all board members are asking to return. [2:45:29, 2:45:32]: Uh and I move to uh to accept. [2:45:32, 2:45:39]: Second. Thank you very much. And Miss Bragg, did you have anything you want to add at this point? [2:45:43, 2:45:44]: Are you you somehow you muted? [2:45:48, 2:45:50]: I don't know you I don't know why you're muted, but you're muted. [2:45:51, 2:45:56]: Okay. Anyway. Okay. I am I am going to do that. All favor of the motion, please indicate. [2:45:57, 2:46:17]: All right, so you name the situation. Thank you very much. Thank you, Council. Congratulations, uh, Ms. Bragg. Okay, uh Council consideration to appoint members of the Stockbridge Youth Council, uh, advisory committee. Once again, it's presented by Mr. Washington. And once again, there's several uh members here, didn't know whether or not once again we wanted to do this. [2:46:17, 2:46:19]: And go straight straight into the um [2:46:20, 2:46:22]: Two is that one session for this or not? Yes, ma'am. [2:46:23, 2:46:33]: Do you have the number of applicants? Because I believe there may be more applicants than there are positions where you have to go to executive session. Okay. Well then. [2:46:33, 2:46:35]: Then uh that will cause that then. Um [2:46:37, 2:46:39]: I don't uh I would have to count'em up. [2:46:40, 2:46:43]: I have seven. Do you have seven? Do you have seven? [2:46:43, 2:46:46]: Seven for the youth advisory council, yes. Then you're okay. [2:46:48, 2:46:55]: And if you if you want to support support all of those. Um okay, thank you, Ms. Holiday. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [2:46:55, 2:46:57]: I just motion to approve them all. Oh, is there a second? [2:46:59, 2:47:00]: Is there a second? [2:47:01, 2:47:01]: Um second. [2:47:02, 2:47:05]: Okay, Mr. Alexander seconds that motion needs further discussion. [2:47:06, 2:47:10]: Um, I would prefer that we have an executive session. [2:47:11, 2:47:14]: Oh okay. That's just thoughts, but any further comments? [2:47:15, 2:47:18]: Yes, sir. [2:47:19, 2:47:19]: Um [2:47:20, 2:47:23]: There was a candidate that I favorite. Um [2:47:24, 2:47:28]: I need to go back and look and see if that person is in in that listing. [2:47:29, 2:47:32]: Um and I hate to call the name um [2:47:34, 2:47:34]: Mm. [2:47:36, 2:47:42]: Oh let me clarification if I may. So how how many positions and how many candidates, uh Mrs. Holiday? [2:47:44, 2:47:48]: Seven positions, seven counts or seven candidates. Yes, seven candidates. [2:47:49, 2:47:51]: They currently have eight. [2:47:52, 2:47:55]: Positions open on that board. Okay, there you go. [2:47:57, 2:48:13]: There are a number of there's one, two, three unexpired terms that need to be filled. So some of these positions will be just filling it for one year because Mr. Canton Jones, Jonathan Coley, and Pamela Warner. [2:48:14, 2:48:15]: are vacating their [2:48:16, 2:48:17]: Seats early. [2:48:18, 2:48:19]: And then you have [2:48:19, 2:48:20]: Three. [2:48:21, 2:48:22]: Um [2:48:23, 2:48:28]: vacancies and then two that are asking to be reappointed that are currently on the board. [2:48:28, 2:48:32]: And that is um a part of my concern. So how do you [2:48:32, 2:48:34]: How do you determine which of the [2:48:35, 2:48:38]: will be just filling out a remaining term. [2:48:39, 2:48:42]: How do you determine which of these applicants are new? [2:48:43, 2:48:44]: Um for [2:48:44, 2:48:47]: appointees, how do you determine that? [2:48:48, 2:48:50]: That's what we need to have some discussions about. [2:48:50, 2:48:52]: I suppose you're gonna win. [2:48:52, 2:48:53]: Okay. [2:48:54, 2:48:57]: If that is the case, yes sir, Mr. Blount. [2:48:57, 2:49:02]: So you're saying that we don't have positions for all seven Africans. Is that what you're saying? [2:49:03, 2:49:05]: No, sir, that's not what I'm saying. [2:49:06, 2:49:19]: What the the question that Ms. Barber is asking is how do you determine which candidates will fill the unexpired term, which is only going to be a one-year term, and who will get the two-year term for the [2:49:19, 2:49:39]: Vacancy. You you speak to the chair, but if you got seven seven people that want to volunteer on the youth council right now, and you got seven positions open, I think we should give them the chair to respect that we're giving Main Street chair, uh uh the uh DDA chair, and let them decide, let them go. But if the seven can get [2:49:39, 2:49:48]: get in. These are volunteers. I say vote them all in and let the chair determine what she wanna do with them. It's not whether or not to appoint all seven. [2:49:49, 2:49:51]: I support appointing all seven. [2:49:51, 2:49:54]: But how does this council determine? [2:49:54, 2:49:55]: Which of the seven? [2:49:56, 2:50:00]: Will be in positions just to feel this one year term. [2:50:01, 2:50:07]: And which of those applicants will be filling the new four-year term or three year? [2:50:07, 2:50:27]: How do you determine that? Those are the conversations I think we need to discuss in executive session. I think that if we're going to determine who's going to be on the council, then this if the seven is going to be on it, that's fine. Let's just say contingent on which term they're going to serve. But if all if we're going to vote on who's going to be on it, if all [2:50:27, 2:50:40]: all seven can make it on. We don't need I don't I don't need to go in an executive session to find out who's gonna serve two year, one year, three year. I think the chair and they should decide how they're gonna work that out. [2:50:40, 2:50:42]: Because the city clerk [2:50:42, 2:50:44]: Has to be or someone. [2:50:44, 2:50:45]: has to give account. [2:50:46, 2:50:47]: For the terms. [2:50:47, 2:50:49]: Of each of those candidates. [2:50:49, 2:51:05]: Mayor, then then then let that happen. But far as the people that uh been able to make it in, Mayor, we got a first and second. Let's go ahead and okay. The motion's been made. Motion's been made, and I believe we have a second, right? Motion's made, Miss Holiday, motion's made and a second, correct? [2:51:06, 2:51:19]: Right, but mayor, may I just put in the record that I would like to confer with the attorney, which we have always done in the past with the previous attorney to determine the terms. Normally we don't have this many vacancies at one time. [2:51:20, 2:51:25]: And uh is usually as one person is coming in, they're replacing. [2:51:25, 2:51:31]: Someone who has vacated a seat. There's happens to be three vacated seats in addition to three. [2:51:32, 2:51:37]: vacancies. So I would like to put it into the record that I would like to confer with attorneys. [2:51:38, 2:51:39]: On the terms. [2:51:40, 2:51:41]: All right. [2:51:42, 2:51:44]: Is that okay with you, Mr. Washington? [2:51:44, 2:51:46]: Yes. Thank you. [2:51:47, 2:51:57]: All right. The mo the motion's been made. You've already talked a few times. The motion's been made. It's been seconded. All in favor of motion, please indicate. [2:51:59, 2:52:00]: Callopes. [2:52:03, 2:52:04]: Abstain? Yes. [2:52:06, 2:52:10]: Okay, so I got two four. Miss Barber, you abstain. Is that what you're you're doing? [2:52:11, 2:52:11]: Okay. [2:52:11, 2:52:12]: Is that right? [2:52:13, 2:52:15]: Of abstaining. All right, to Mr. Thomas. [2:52:16, 2:52:17]: Well uh [2:52:18, 2:52:22]: Let me explain my issue. There's someone that I want to recommend. [2:52:22, 2:52:33]: I don't know if that person is in the seven. See that that's out of my issue right there. So it's on I don't know how to so there's seven applicants, but there's eight. [2:52:34, 2:52:41]: There's eight applicants and seven positions. Is that correct? Seven positions. Seven applicants, eight. [2:52:41, 2:52:49]: Vacancies. Mayor, the attorney has a name. Mayor Mayor Pro Tem. I think I have the floor. Thank you. You do, sir. Go ahead, please. [2:52:50, 2:52:50]: Okay. [2:52:50, 2:52:52]: There are [2:52:53, 2:52:55]: Seven applicants. [2:52:55, 2:53:04]: And they are a position. Yes. So with that, then with that understanding, the candidate that I wanted to recommend would automatically get in. [2:53:05, 2:53:12]: I I suppose if that person's on that list, if they're going there. So if that is the case, then I I I vote uh in the affirmative. [2:53:13, 2:53:28]: All right, so that 301. 301 is that it passes. 301. That's right. Okay. Uh let's see here. Uh council consideration uh to approve the community development department code enforcement uh [2:53:29, 2:53:30]: Fees. [2:53:31, 2:53:32]: Miss Johnson, please. [2:53:34, 2:53:41]: Good evening, Mayor and Council members. So um what I'm requesting of you today is um [2:53:41, 2:53:43]: The approval of [2:53:43, 2:53:47]: The code enforcement. I don't know if you guys can see my screen. [2:53:47, 2:53:51]: Um is the code enforcement fee schedule. [2:53:52, 2:53:57]: All of my other divisions throughout the the county with their violations for you know not [2:53:58, 2:53:58]: Um [2:53:59, 2:54:16]: obtaining a permit in time or before work begins, things like that, those are handled. We have those fee schedules. And I do anticipate bringing those to you all as an updated fee schedule. But code enforcement, who we have the most violations for. [2:54:16, 2:54:22]: did not have a current fee schedule. So I'm bringing this before you now for you get all to um [2:54:23, 2:54:24]: To review [2:54:24, 2:54:44]: and to approve so that we can get this in place um either immediately or the first of the year. Our our goal is to get these out to a lot of the business owners and residents over the next you know week, two weeks so that they can be made aware upfront because we're gonna give people their notice of violation. [2:54:44, 2:54:52]: And give them a certain time frame to come into compliance with the code. And then we'll go start from the first offense, second offense, and so on. [2:54:54, 2:54:58]: Okay, great. Fantastic. Uh council, any questions for Ms. Johnson on his fee schedule? [2:55:00, 2:55:06]: Uh Mayor Mayor Ford. Go ahead, Mr. Thomas. Um Mrs. Johnson, thank you. [2:55:06, 2:55:10]: I I guess the only question I have is is about uh enforcement. [2:55:11, 2:55:12]: Um [2:55:12, 2:55:14]: So they're cited. [2:55:15, 2:55:17]: I guess they're giving warnings. [2:55:18, 2:55:20]: They're cited, that comes to court. [2:55:22, 2:55:23]: If if they don't come to court. [2:55:24, 2:55:25]: The what happens? [2:55:26, 2:55:31]: So what typically happens is from from beginning from start to finish is [2:55:31, 2:55:47]: Um, if there is a perceived violation by one of my code officers, they will issue a notice to comply or notice a violation so that the applicant, the resident, business owner has a certain number of days to come into compliance with the code. [2:55:47, 2:55:51]: If they do not come into compliance with the code, that officer is scheduled to come back. [2:55:52, 2:55:55]: within after that time frame and they will issue a citation. [2:55:56, 2:55:58]: The citation will be that first offense. [2:55:59, 2:56:03]: Um and of course once a violation is a citation is issued. [2:56:03, 2:56:14]: those folks immediately get placed on, you know, the upcoming docket. We haven't had court in several months, but the first meeting I think we have is in April of 2022. [2:56:15, 2:56:19]: If we continue to see these offenses happening with these same [2:56:20, 2:56:22]: business owners or residents. [2:56:23, 2:56:24]: We will you know [2:56:24, 2:56:27]: They'll be hit with another fee. [2:56:27, 2:56:40]: to pay. And the I the idea behind this is to keep habitual violators to a minimum because we are having that problem now on multiple occasions throughout the city. [2:56:43, 2:56:51]: Okay. Yeah, Mr. Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. Yeah, I'm looking at this list. The fine for overgrown grass is too low. [2:56:51, 2:56:52]: Okay, fifty dollars. [2:56:53, 2:56:54]: I mean [2:56:54, 2:56:55]: Yeah. [2:56:55, 2:57:02]: I just might as well not cut it. It's gonna cost me fifty dollars to get somebody to cut it. I'm gonna find gonna be what it's gonna cost to cut it. [2:57:02, 2:57:13]: So me, I might as well not cut it. They ain't gonna find me for fifty dollars anyway. That that's how much it's gonna cost to get it cut. So why is the fine for overgrown grass so low when we're trying to [2:57:14, 2:57:17]: uh emphasize that uh in our area. [2:57:17, 2:57:37]: Well, part of our due diligence and best practices is to make sure that we pull fees that are comparable around the region. And these are comparable to the region. Um, of course, you know, the council has the authority to say, hey, let's raise this, let's say 75 for the first offense, 100 for the second, um, whatever your place. [2:57:37, 2:57:47]: pleasure is, but all of these um violation fees have been based on what is typically handled throughout the region of the Atlanta region. [2:57:48, 2:57:54]: Okay. And where's the fine for l litter on their parking lot or their business? Where's that at? [2:57:55, 2:57:56]: Okay. [2:57:56, 2:57:58]: So we have um [2:58:00, 2:58:08]: Commercial vehicles, onsite parking, outside storage. Outside storage is also considered, you know, looking at illegal dumping. [2:58:09, 2:58:13]: things like that. So we have them kind of on each front and our code specific and [2:58:14, 2:58:22]: what the violation entails. So outdoor storage is considered if you have, you know, trash, rubbish, [2:58:23, 2:58:27]: And then we have the um international property maintenance code. [2:58:27, 2:58:29]: Іщу слайк санітачін. [2:58:29, 2:58:35]: when people have evictions and property items are being put out on the curb. [2:58:35, 2:58:40]: those are things we're quickly working with public works and our um [2:58:41, 2:58:43]: our sanitation company to get those removed. [2:58:44, 2:58:48]: So we we've tried to cover everything we possibly can as far as um [2:58:49, 2:58:51]: our all our code violations. [2:58:51, 2:58:53]: in this co in this fee schedule. [2:58:54, 2:58:55]: Well, when I go to building A. [2:58:56, 2:58:58]: Which is a gas station, which I won't name. [2:58:59, 2:59:05]: There's trash all over the parking lot. I don't see that covered here. I wanna uh is there any way to put a specific [2:59:05, 2:59:09]: Note in there about parking lots and commercial. [2:59:09, 2:59:13]: uh buildings they need to go outside and pick up the trash on a regular basis. [2:59:14, 2:59:19]: If you're a fast food restaurant and you got litter and bags and fries all over the ground. [2:59:19, 2:59:20]: Where is that at? [2:59:21, 2:59:29]: I I see a lot of mismatch, but can it can one be put in specifically for litter on a parking lot? [2:59:29, 2:59:30]: Sure, we can add that. [2:59:31, 2:59:32]: That's not a problem. [2:59:33, 2:59:37]: Okay, I would like to see that uh added where litter is added. [2:59:38, 2:59:41]: Uh, to the parking lot on any commercial business. [2:59:41, 2:59:43]: Or in the city. [2:59:43, 2:59:49]: Uh a stop with so do we have to make a motion on that or what? I would I'd just like to hear from the rest of the [2:59:49, 2:59:51]: Rest of y'all uh rest of this [2:59:52, 2:59:55]: the councils uh as well as far as that's concerned. [2:59:55, 3:00:02]: Yeah, I would think we need some type of motion, some type of approval for the a majority, at least a m simple majority council. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [3:00:02, 3:00:07]: Mayor, I'm in totally one hundred percent agreement with that, but I would uh I would would that we would [3:00:08, 3:00:15]: That the motion would be in a way that it covers. Uh, I just called uh Mr. Aaron just last week. [3:00:16, 3:00:24]: Um, there's a driveway that you go into, and there's this big hole. It's on private property, but there's a big hole that you can't miss going in it. [3:00:25, 3:00:32]: And people are actually tearing their cars up. So if it's some type of language that we can put in that these businesses have to up these owners. [3:00:32, 3:00:52]: Have to keep upkeep of their property, that it doesn't become a nuisance to the community nor become a hazard to the uh to uh uh citizens. Uh however we formulate that, I would like that verbiage to be that encompasses all of this pertaining to their parking lots. When we talk about these parking lots that are, that are that are [3:00:52, 3:00:53]: Yeah. [3:00:53, 3:01:02]: That that are holes are everywhere in them, that that they're not upkeeping, they're trashed up. Whatever we need to do to hold these owners accountable for. [3:01:02, 3:01:13]: the upkeep of their properties and the and and the uh beautification of their properties, if there's a way that we can do that legally, I like whatever motion we make, it encompasses everything. [3:01:14, 3:01:22]: Councilman, um Blount, if I may, so we have uh nuisances listed here and there's a whole range of nuisances in the code. [3:01:23, 3:01:26]: Um, that would cover what you're speaking of and also unsafe conditions. [3:01:27, 3:01:35]: cover that as well. I think um Chief Trammer wanted to to chime in as well on this as well. Yeah, he he had his hand up. Go ahead, Chief. [3:01:35, 3:01:45]: Yes, I just wanted to point out that within the municipal codes of Georgia, um, Title Eleven under offenses, there's a specific chapter eleven point six that addresses littering in the city. [3:01:45, 3:01:51]: And all the things that were mentioned by Mayor Pro Tem are addressed within this ordinance that's already listed. [3:01:51, 3:01:56]: in the city code and the minimum fine already established is two hundred dollars for the first offense. [3:01:57, 3:01:59]: and up to a thousand dollars for the second offense. [3:02:00, 3:02:05]: Well, my m um Ms. Alexander, if you don't mind me asking this question, uh [3:02:06, 3:02:15]: Then, if it's already in there, what is the oversight? Then I guess we need to have to have oversight because we see the same situation for months. [3:02:15, 3:02:18]: Then it's not the owners, it's us not enforcing it. [3:02:20, 3:02:37]: That that's my concern now then. And so with this schedule, whatever we need to say and enforce, and and I guess that's an internal thing now, because if this is what we see on a continual basis, then enforcement is not there. That hole has been there quite a while. And if any of you go by there on 138 over by the uh [3:02:37, 3:02:46]: uh um over by the um uh animal hospital. There's this big hole there and I I took I took pictures and saw to Dacious uh Mr. Aaron. [3:02:47, 3:03:07]: It's a it's a nuisance and a hazard to the community. So if that's been there, then I guess now we got to look at enforcement. We have to look at what on our end, how do we we need to do what we need to do to have these business owners to enforce picking up this trash or enforce keeping their their parking lots like they should be, then it's not them. Then it's you're telling us it's up. [3:03:07, 3:03:07]: [10988.5, 10995.9]: I certainly support putting both of those in there and having a fee schedule for the parking lot maintenance described by Mr. Blount. [3:03:16, 3:03:25]: And also a separate one for track a line item that is specifically addressed trash on the parking lot and a s and uh and a fine on that and then another [3:03:26, 3:03:35]: category that the deals with maintenance on the parking lot and paving with diff with fines on that one. So that they have this in front of them when they're out there. [3:03:35, 3:03:38]: uh looking for these particular violations. [3:03:39, 3:03:41]: Okay, Miss Barber, you have your hand up. [3:03:42, 3:03:55]: I wanted to ask Ms. Johnson, um so fine for uh storage pods for residents who might just be doing some home renovations. Is that listed here as well? [3:04:00, 3:04:16]: It's not specifically stated outright, but it will be considered under nuisance as well. Um, because we I believe there's a time limit on how long those can stay on a property. Uh, because remember they're typically in a driveway or some sometimes they've been spotted on the street. [3:04:16, 3:04:21]: Which of course is completely outside of um our co-regulations. [3:04:21, 3:04:25]: Um as it pertains to those two additional line items. [3:04:26, 3:04:39]: uh the litter and rubbish and commercial properties and then property lot or parking lot maintenance. That's something we can easily add. Chief and I will will um collaborate on that and ensure that the proper fees are installed. [3:04:41, 3:04:42]: All right. [3:04:42, 3:04:45]: So um yeah, okay, Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please, sir. [3:04:45, 3:04:57]: Yeah, I I just wanted to um echo and concur with the with the litter uh issue. Now I I wanted to ask this question of Mrs. Johnson. Uh uh what I see oftentimes. [3:04:58, 3:05:04]: especially in a strip mall, you have a a number of businesses, but there's trash everywhere. So do you [3:05:05, 3:05:07]: identify who actually owned [3:05:08, 3:05:14]: Um um the the property uh as opposed to the individual tenant. Is is that the process? [3:05:15, 3:05:19]: Yes, we notify the tenant, but our conversation about [3:05:20, 3:05:21]: compliances with the property owner. [3:05:22, 3:05:27]: Okay. Now I know we're in the process of uh approving our UDC. [3:05:27, 3:05:31]: Uh I'm now I'm going to parking on the street and I know um [3:05:32, 3:05:42]: the no parking signs, the no litter signs. Uh and I know public works have sort of dealt with the signs, but uh is any of this [3:05:42, 3:05:46]: Two two questions. Is any of this in your uh area? [3:05:46, 3:05:48]: My my other question is [3:05:49, 3:05:59]: um the codes of the codes up today because I was gonna you mentioned the codes because I because I was gonna ask you a little bit more about uh nuisance and abatement. [3:05:59, 3:06:04]: And so I I just didn't know how all of this uh works together. [3:06:05, 3:06:06]: Can you speak to any of that? [3:06:07, 3:06:08]: Absolutely. So [3:06:09, 3:06:14]: Um as it pertains to parking and and the the woes that I think residents have had. [3:06:14, 3:06:34]: Um, with people parking on the street, the roads not being wide enough for other cars to pass. That is something that myself, Mr. Aaron, and um will be a conversation with our new city manager to address how we need to go about managing that. Um, and and address whether we need to, you know. [3:06:35, 3:06:39]: talk with you guys more about a tow company, things like that. So that is gonna require [3:06:39, 3:06:59]: additional conversation with uh city management before it actually comes to you all. And your second question, um as it pertains to you know these other types of nuisances and abatement, again, those are conversations that we would go through with the city [3:06:59, 3:07:13]: manager as far as procedurally. Of course our codes do need a little brushing up and that is will be the next phase. But this would be the first step in addressing those habitual um [3:07:13, 3:07:22]: Violators. And so we go back, take a look at our code, see what things need to be changed because there's most certainly are some things that we need to tighten up on. [3:07:22, 3:07:25]: And then we'll bring those back to you all for a vote. [3:07:25, 3:07:31]: L last questions if I may. Uh parking in the street and no parking signs. [3:07:31, 3:07:35]: Is there a difference in subdivisions? [3:07:35, 3:07:37]: No parking and [3:07:38, 3:07:41]: um regular uh street [3:07:41, 3:07:42]: No park in it. [3:07:44, 3:07:47]: Um there is a we do have a a [3:07:48, 3:07:57]: Interestingly enough, we do have an ordinance that speaks specifically specifically to parking permits on the street, which is [3:07:58, 3:07:59]: very um [3:08:00, 3:08:08]: Um at at best very difficult to manage for uh staff. I mean, they have 3 AM cutoffs and [3:08:08, 3:08:14]: it just gets really, you know, interesting. But again, the that section, other sections like it. [3:08:14, 3:08:18]: would be something we would look at on a best practices measure. [3:08:18, 3:08:23]: and bring those back to city management and then to you all for for a vote. [3:08:24, 3:08:26]: Okay,'cause I know there um [3:08:26, 3:08:29]: Presently there are no parking sands. [3:08:29, 3:08:45]: uh on on several street not subdivision but just just regular streets and and i guess i'm i'm sort of going to the enforcement part of it and i guess maybe the chief can speak to that or i don't want to tie this meeting up but i i think this uh [3:08:45, 3:08:58]: All of this is something that we have to try to continue to improve upon. So I'm just going to stop there and I guess we will continue uh these kind of uh discussion because as we see now in this discussion. [3:08:58, 3:09:18]: There's a lot that we need to be about improving upon. But that's always been one of my issues and my concerns, uh parking on the street. And they and they park they park on the street where there's a sign that says no parking on the street. So they pretty much just ignore that. But I know in the past it was all about enforcement. [3:09:18, 3:09:18]: So [3:09:19, 3:09:22]: Maybe uh you know we can have this discussion with the chief at another time. [3:09:23, 3:09:27]: Absolutely. And and the and the city manager as well to address. [3:09:28, 3:09:42]: how we can enforce it, which is gonna be towing cars who do not adhere to the code. And until we get that nailed down, um, the enforcement for that uh would would not quite be in place, but we are working towards that and will with the new city manager. [3:09:44, 3:10:04]: Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. May Mayor, one last thing. Uh well, first of all, before I get to that, uh Ms. Johnson, could you give this council a breakdown of the definition? Because I'm as we look at some of these titles, they are they do get kind of vague uh when you look at different titles that you have on here. Um so if is is that something [3:10:04, 3:10:23]: that you can give us the breakdown each one of these. So if a if if someone calls us about something that we can look on and say, yeah, this is a violation because we see this and we see that in there. Is there a breakdown of this right here or those violations that that shows us that it's a true violation that you can give this counsel? [3:10:24, 3:10:28]: So if I if I'm if I'm clear on the question. [3:10:28, 3:10:31]: Where does where do these violations fall into the code? [3:10:31, 3:10:34]: Well for for instance you got unsafe [3:10:34, 3:10:50]: Yeah, yeah, you got unsafe, even if you could directly sit the coat when you got unsafe conditions. What does that actually mean? I mean, that's what you have on you see what I'm saying? So what does that actually mean? Unsafe conditions? Because what I just described could have been an unsafe condition, you know, with the whole industry. [3:10:50, 3:11:05]: And and the be and I I put those and that's a great question. Um I put that listing of violations under the International Property Maintenance Code, because those are the violations that are specific under the IMPC, the IPMC. [3:11:05, 3:11:06]: And [3:11:06, 3:11:16]: This is international. This is, you know, covered throughout Georgia. It's adopted by the city. Um, and we have to follow I'd have to go through kind of specifically. [3:11:17, 3:11:24]: Um, to to kind of give you a breakdown of that. But unsafe conditions, one of them would be when you have potholes and parking lots. [3:11:24, 3:11:27]: or, you know, places that can cause some type of um [3:11:28, 3:11:31]: Um, even if even if it's something as small as [3:11:31, 3:11:33]: The hedges on a property. [3:11:33, 3:11:35]: are you know obstructing view [3:11:35, 3:11:36]: To a driver. [3:11:37, 3:11:42]: Um things like that. So it it it it comes in a lot of different forms. [3:11:42, 3:11:48]: But um I can most certainly get you a clear breakdown per the IPMC. [3:11:48, 3:12:00]: Yeah, yeah. And I so we can reference actually our code what what you have. Certainly. Most certainly. Well, and and last the question is is that when we talk about parking, I called um [3:12:01, 3:12:05]: I called um I got in touch with um I I think it was you mayor. [3:12:06, 3:12:10]: Uh it was like sixteen trucks, seventeen trucks parked at uh [3:12:11, 3:12:15]: On Hudson Bridge Road at the Walmart, seventeen trucks, seventeen just out front. [3:12:16, 3:12:19]: And so it's becoming a parking uh haven. [3:12:19, 3:12:23]: uh for truckers. How do we address those type of issues? [3:12:24, 3:12:38]: Well, we since obtaining or getting the complaint um about a week and a half ago, uh my code enforcement officers have been out to both locations, Hudson Bridge and 138, and have tried to set up meetings with management to address this because [3:12:39, 3:12:43]: Yeah, one of two things are happening. Either Walmart is allowing it or the [3:12:43, 3:12:56]: you know, folks who are in the trucks are just parking and just not not, you know, adhering to the the requirements. So we've spoken with them, we've issued them a notice of violation so that they understand. [3:12:56, 3:12:58]: That you have, you know. [3:12:58, 3:13:02]: three days to come into compliance. Now what the problem we have is [3:13:03, 3:13:04]: Um [3:13:04, 3:13:05]: These trucks are parking. [3:13:06, 3:13:10]: Overnight during the times that staff is not in the office. [3:13:10, 3:13:15]: Uh, but we have a regular weekly check-in with those managers. [3:13:16, 3:13:18]: to address that specifically. [3:13:18, 3:13:38]: So I can continue to keep you updated, but they have been issued a notice of violation. Um, I have not received any additional complaints since the last week and a half um at either location, but I've uh tasked my uh staff with making sure we do a regular routine check-in because of course this is obviously [3:13:38, 3:13:39]: [11619.3, 11634.4]: Yeah, Ms. Johnson, but I'm a but but you know that because you don't get a phone call doesn't mean the problem doesn't still exist. And because you contact because you contact uh management and with with Walmart and we get them three days to comply. [3:13:54, 3:13:55]: Um [3:13:56, 3:14:16]: They may have three days to comply with this driver, but it could change every single weekend. Do our code enforcement have any leeway of putting a sticker on these vehicles when they drive through the parking lot? Because there's a big sign, even in Walmart's parking lot, no truck parking. If we have an ordinance against it with the city and they have an ordinance against [3:14:16, 3:14:24]: I'm gonna say they have a um uh something against it pertaining to Walmart. We don't have any kind of stickers or something we can put on these vehicles that they won't come back. [3:14:26, 3:14:29]: Right. Well, I think it it still goes back to enforcement. [3:14:29, 3:14:34]: W even with the stickers, can we the the we have to determine can the city [3:14:34, 3:14:36]: Tow those trucks. [3:14:36, 3:14:48]: if they do not remove their vehicles. Well one of the problem but I'm I'm sorry to cut up but one of the things about stickering putting stickers on vehicles that they're in violation, they have no idea what your powers are to do. [3:14:48, 3:14:59]: They just know they're in violation. And sometimes people would just say, I'm not gonna park up there because I don't wanna be towed, even if we're not even towing. When we let people know that they're in violation. [3:14:59, 3:15:00]: Of something. [3:15:00, 3:15:15]: Then that's when a lot of times they take take advantage and say, I'm not gonna do this because I don't need this on me to have it told or the uh or my company finding out that I gotta stick on you. You see what I'm saying? What are we doing to rectify problem? Cause when you're dealing with Walmarts. [3:15:16, 3:15:19]: Either we got it because they got they got people out there that are [3:15:20, 3:15:23]: That are breaking all the rules of the city of Scott Bridge. [3:15:24, 3:15:26]: All the rules from in uh [3:15:26, 3:15:37]: everywhere from the from the from the street levels to out front everywhere so when are we going to start taking control of the two walmarts to the best of our ability with code enforcement [3:15:38, 3:15:42]: That we got to do more than just talking because we've been talking to Walmarts. [3:15:42, 3:15:44]: Since we since uh [3:15:44, 3:15:46]: Since I've been on council. [3:15:47, 3:15:50]: So when are we gonna start taking control? That's that's my thing. [3:15:50, 3:15:51]: What is that we can do? [3:15:55, 3:16:00]: Well, I mean, this is this is a code enforcement effort that, you know, now that we have the police department [3:16:01, 3:16:06]: on board that gives us the support that we need when we go out on the field. [3:16:07, 3:16:15]: to to realize that, you know, we are n we're serious and you know they don't take us take us for granted. [3:16:15, 3:16:19]: And not adhere. Part of this process with the [3:16:19, 3:16:20]: Um [3:16:20, 3:16:22]: With the citations. [3:16:22, 3:16:25]: is so that we can begin that process. [3:16:25, 3:16:32]: Because we hope that in issuing a citation, people say, Oh no, I've got to pay two hundred, three hundred dollars. [3:16:32, 3:16:34]: for you know [3:16:34, 3:16:40]: being overnight overnight parked in a commercial lot, which is against the code. [3:16:40, 3:16:46]: Calling people working on Sundays? Do they work on Sunday? Yes, they do. Okay, gotcha. They work seven days a week. [3:16:46, 3:17:01]: Gotcha. So um and again, you know, working with the police department is part of this approach to get a stronger arm when my staff is going out there issuing the citations to businesses who are just not adhering to the code. [3:17:03, 3:17:04]: Mr. Alexander, go ahead, please. [3:17:04, 3:17:05]: Thank you. [3:17:06, 3:17:07]: Miss Miss uh [3:17:08, 3:17:11]: Johnson, are we practicing zero tolerance at this point? [3:17:16, 3:17:18]: You're muted, Miss Johnson. [3:17:18, 3:17:23]: Well what we're doing is we're going out. Um we have a a [3:17:23, 3:17:25]: Um S O P [3:17:25, 3:17:30]: standard operating procedures for each of these violations and the timeframe. [3:17:31, 3:17:33]: In which folks have to come into compliance. [3:17:34, 3:17:37]: What we have been missing has been this particular [3:17:37, 3:17:38]: Code. [3:17:38, 3:17:41]: Because even if we cite them, that means they just have to come to court. [3:17:41, 3:17:45]: If there's no dollar amount tied to their violation. [3:17:45, 3:17:48]: they're going to take what we're doing for granted. [3:17:48, 3:17:52]: And they have. And not not everyone. People do come into compliance and [3:17:52, 3:17:55]: do what they're supposed to do, but some don't. [3:17:56, 3:18:04]: And in this particular case, this is one of the tools to help move us to that zero tolerance process. [3:18:04, 3:18:06]: And this is the first step in doing so. [3:18:07, 3:18:10]: Okay, next, will you bring the code when you bring that um [3:18:11, 3:18:15]: uh insert back up with the fine and the ski f uh fee schedule on it. [3:18:16, 3:18:18]: So we it's now it's kind of [3:18:19, 3:18:21]: Mr. Mike, is it just my screen? [3:18:22, 3:18:24]: I think it might be just my screen. [3:18:24, 3:18:25]: Okay. [3:18:26, 3:18:29]: So I made it a little bit larger. There we go. [3:18:35, 3:18:37]: Okay. [3:18:42, 3:18:44]: What is all this thing? [3:18:48, 3:18:50]: Well, okay. [3:18:50, 3:18:53]: Let's do let me see uh [3:18:53, 3:18:57]: Let's uh for some reason come back to me. Come back to me. [3:18:57, 3:19:15]: Okay, let me mention this. There's a couple of different suggestions that were added. I'm kind of wondering whether or not we wanna uh we wanna vote on this this uh this evening in reference to the those additional items being added or whether or not you want those items added and then and then this entire list comes back. [3:19:15, 3:19:25]: Uh I'm not sure what uh what Mayor Pro Tem wants to get clarified here. Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. Well uh Mayor, I I was going to move to [3:19:25, 3:19:28]: approved with the modifications. [3:19:28, 3:19:32]: Um now if Mrs. Johnson would like to [3:19:32, 3:19:33]: Um [3:19:34, 3:19:41]: modifier uh her list and I'm okay with that as well, but I was going to motion to accept. [3:19:41, 3:19:45]: Uh with the modification that has been expressed. [3:19:47, 3:19:50]: So I don't know if if if Mr. Johnson wanted to um [3:19:51, 3:20:01]: just just modify and bring it back, but I'm okay with making a motion to to approve with those modification that has been expressed. I'm okay with approving it tonight myself, Mayor. [3:20:01, 3:20:04]: Okay, so Mr. Thomas made a motion. Ms. Barber second that. [3:20:05, 3:20:11]: Mayor. Yes, ma'am. We had a motion by Mayor Proteam Alexander. Originally? [3:20:11, 3:20:25]: Originally for the commercial to add the parking lot litter to the fee schedule and also to add the parking lot maintenance and paving. That's what I think that's what that's what we're talking about. That was seconded. [3:20:25, 3:20:32]: No, it was not seconded, but uh may approach a minute. Well, those are the modifications, aren't they? Right. Those are the modifications we're referring to. [3:20:33, 3:20:40]: That's what that's that covers by that. I think those are what's covered now by Mr. Thomas's motion that was taken by Barber anyway. [3:20:40, 3:20:49]: Yeah, I understand that, but Mayor Proteir made the initial motion, so I just need to know if he's rescinding and allowing their motion to go forward. There was no asset, there's not a second in the motion. [3:20:49, 3:20:53]: Second to Mayor Pro Tem Alexander's motion. [3:20:53, 3:21:06]: Okay. Oh, you now second that motion. Well wait, well wait, well, hold on a second. Now wait. It was already stated, yes. [3:21:07, 3:21:20]: Restated again. So restated again. Mayor Pro Cameron, you made a motion for the when you were speaking about the commercial portion to add for the parking lot later to be added to that fee schedule and also [3:21:20, 3:21:30]: To add the parking lot maintenance and paving that Councilman Blount spoke about, to add that to the peace schedule. There was not a second, but that is what it was motioned. [3:21:30, 3:21:36]: Okay, and this is what I want to do. Thank you so much. Now I got my screen. I had lost contact for a minute. Something went wrong. [3:21:36, 3:21:39]: What I'd like to do is to add that category. [3:21:39, 3:21:41]: For the litter uh [3:21:41, 3:21:43]: For litter on the parking lot. [3:21:43, 3:21:48]: And the fee schedule would include the first fine being a hundred and twenty five dollars. [3:21:50, 3:21:53]: And the second fine being five hundred dollars. [3:21:55, 3:21:58]: And the third fine being a thousand dollars. [3:21:59, 3:21:59]: I say it. [3:22:02, 3:22:03]: All right. Any further discussion? [3:22:04, 3:22:07]: Okay, on the damage to the parking lot. [3:22:07, 3:22:17]: Well oh hold hold on sir. Hold on sir. We you are you adding now to the motion? You just made a motion to do it. Okay. I'm sorry. We gotta have the fee schedule for the damage to the parking lot too, right? [3:22:18, 3:22:19]: Okay. [3:22:19, 3:22:22]: Right. So damn damage to the parking lot. [3:22:22, 3:22:26]: Uh the initial fee will be two hundred and fifty dollars. [3:22:26, 3:22:30]: The second fee will be seven hundred and fifty dollars. [3:22:31, 3:22:39]: And the third fee would be fifteen hundred dollars. It needs to escalate a lot because you know if it's not a significant amount on the first one, why would I fix it? [3:22:40, 3:22:43]: If it's less than a hundred dollars, I might as well leave the hole out there. [3:22:43, 3:22:44]: So [3:22:44, 3:22:45]: That's kind of where we are. [3:22:46, 3:22:48]: Uh on that one as well. And then [3:22:48, 3:22:51]: The third fee schedule on the overgrown grass. [3:22:51, 3:22:55]: We'll start with a hundred and twenty-five dollars on the first. [3:22:56, 3:22:58]: Uh, violation for the overgrown grass. [3:22:58, 3:23:01]: The second violation would be five hundred dollars. [3:23:02, 3:23:07]: And the third violation for overgrown grass would be one thousand dollars. [3:23:09, 3:23:15]: Okay, so now that's the full motion. That's the full motion. Okay. Miss Barber, you mo you seconding that motion now? [3:23:15, 3:23:16]: Yes. [3:23:16, 3:23:28]: Okay. Now uh I want to make sure uh Mr. Blount standby for a second. I want to make sure that's Ms. Holliday has has it all accurate now. I I do. Okay. All right, Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [3:23:29, 3:23:30]: Um [3:23:32, 3:23:36]: Miss Johnson, I mean I'm I we definitely want things to [3:23:37, 3:23:39]: be done by these property uh owners. [3:23:40, 3:23:51]: Um and I don't know where the amounts come from. What are we comparing the amounts to other than you s uh other than them being stated? What what amounts of were you thinking, Ms. Johnson? Because I [3:23:51, 3:23:52]: I mean that's [3:23:53, 3:23:58]: And then that's that that third I'm I'm trying to figure out what where did these amounts come from. [3:23:58, 3:24:18]: Let me tell you where the amounts came from. If I if if I don't you don't if I don't cut my grass and the fee is fifty dollars, I'm with my might as well not cut my grass because it's gonna cost me more than fifty dollars. If it's not gonna cost me more than fifty dollars, I'm not gonna cut it anyway. It's only gonna cost me fifty dollars. Now to cut your grass is gonna cost more than that. [3:24:18, 3:24:27]: at for a commercial location, maybe$75 to$100. So the fine need to be more significant than the actual cost of the cutting of the grass. [3:24:27, 3:24:47]: Now the second fine violation of$500 is punitive because we warned you numerous times in the past. You haven't taken advantage of it. This time we're hitting you hard in the pocketbook at$500 to say never again. You will never do this again. You do it again, a thousand dollars. [3:24:47, 3:24:55]: Is is not going that those mounts send a clear message each time they're escalating. Because if I chose you fifty dollars. [3:24:56, 3:25:14]: What good does it do? I'll pay the fifty dollars and not cut the grass each time. I'm not gonna I'm I'm okay with that. The second time is$125. That's cheaper than costing me to cut the grass. Well, let me let me ask the attorneys when it comes to state law. [3:25:15, 3:25:17]: Could these fees be deemed necessive? [3:25:20, 3:25:21]: need to weigh in with Desmond Court on that. [3:25:22, 3:25:26]: because these are be municipal these will be municipal fines, but generally there's gonna be some latitude. [3:25:27, 3:25:32]: But I wouldn't want to speak on what he would feel comfortable with finds without talking to him. He would be the person enforced. [3:25:33, 3:25:39]: I I I just don't want us to get into excessive fines in the city of Stockbridge because [3:25:40, 3:25:48]: If if if if I'm charged and I'm just wanting to store a number, if I'm charged fifty dollars and the next time I'm charged two hundred, I don't want to pay two hundred again. [3:25:49, 3:25:53]: And I just want to make sure that the pertaining to state law that we're not [3:25:53, 3:26:06]: compared to state law, we're not getting to get into getting into excessive fines here with that because I believe that there should be some type of fine uh put in there. But it this sounds a little uh [3:26:06, 3:26:13]: I think maybe it might be a good idea just to put up two and then at that point the judge sitting on the bench can decide what the amount is that will be given. [3:26:15, 3:26:16]: Right. [3:26:16, 3:26:18]: I do have a question if I may. [3:26:18, 3:26:21]: I think it's the thousand dollar fine the one that kind of got me. [3:26:21, 3:26:23]: The third violation [3:26:25, 3:26:30]: May I ask a question? Uh Chief has his hand up. Yeah, stand stand by, McBarn Pro Town. [3:26:30, 3:26:33]: Um actually stand by Chief. Go ahead, Miss Johnson. [3:26:34, 3:26:35]: So I guess [3:26:36, 3:26:41]: Do we want to separate the two? Separate residential overgrown. [3:26:41, 3:26:44]: grasp was what I'm I think I'm hearing Cosm Wild say. [3:26:45, 3:26:48]: And make a s a separation between the residential [3:26:48, 3:26:54]: R residents, the property owners versus commercial property owners and making a distinction between those fees. [3:26:54, 3:27:02]: My motion refers to commercial businesses. That's what I my initial motion referenced commercial businesses. [3:27:02, 3:27:03]: Okay. [3:27:05, 3:27:07]: All right, then Chief Tramer, go ahead, please. [3:27:10, 3:27:13]: Thank you. And uh forgive me. Uh no this is really not um [3:27:14, 3:27:17]: It it's it's not my agenda item, but I did want to point out [3:27:18, 3:27:21]: Uh just for everybody's awareness that the current city ordinance on litter. [3:27:21, 3:27:29]: uh does address both public and private property. And there's already a minimum fine of$200 as established in the current city charter. [3:27:29, 3:27:31]: So I just wanted to um [3:27:32, 3:27:38]: Put that out there because I know Mayor Pro Tem that you had just mentioned the minimum fine of a hundred and twenty-five dollars, if I believe [3:27:38, 3:27:43]: Um I wrote that down correctly. And so if that's the case, would the city charter need to be amended? [3:27:44, 3:27:47]: based on the motion that Mayor Pro Tem has made. [3:27:48, 3:27:50]: Well, I I did that because [3:27:50, 3:27:55]: The the fine on this schedule that was given to us is fifty dollars. So all of those fees are [3:27:56, 3:28:01]: in error if that is the case. So certainly I could support the if the charter calls for two hundred minimum. [3:28:02, 3:28:06]: I could I all I'll amend my motion to make sure the initial find [3:28:06, 3:28:12]: on all of these, the litter on the parking, the damage to the parking lot and the overgrown grass, the minimum fine. [3:28:12, 3:28:18]: will start at two hundred dollars as referenced in the city charter. Certainly I support a higher fine. [3:28:20, 3:28:24]: Okay. Miss Johnson, do you have any comment on on that at all since you've first brought this forward? [3:28:26, 3:28:30]: Um this was based on residential um areas, commercial we [3:28:31, 3:28:34]: Um can look at differently, but it whatever is the pleasure of the council. [3:28:36, 3:28:47]: Okay. Okay, so on that note, Mayor Potem, you you now've changed the figures and right. This the figure stated by the chief was that the minimum fine on the commercial. [3:28:47, 3:28:51]: was two hundred dollars. So I wanna make sure that we're in line with the charter. [3:28:51, 3:28:53]: So all of those initial fees. [3:28:54, 3:28:55]: would be two hundred dollar minimum. [3:28:56, 3:28:57]: Uh as a referred to. [3:28:57, 3:29:01]: by uh the city charter to be in compliance with the law. [3:29:03, 3:29:06]: Okay. And and not I can display that if you'd like. [3:29:07, 3:29:18]: I I don't know if that's necessarily right yet, Chief. Stand by. I'm sorry, Vanessa. I see you Mr. Blount. Vanessa, go ahead, please. I was just asking, and the second and the third remain the same. Yes. Thank you. [3:29:18, 3:29:24]: Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. And and one of the things we have to remember here with the two hundred dollar fine. [3:29:25, 3:29:36]: That fine can be implemented per day, every day until the until it's corrected. So if it goes up to$1,000, that's because it hasn't been corrected. [3:29:37, 3:29:44]: See, and then we're still in line with the charter because we're not charging a thousand dollars. But if it's not corrected, it could go up to a thousand dollars. [3:29:46, 3:29:59]: Yeah. I I'm I'm comfortable with my motion at this point and it's time to move on. I call for the vote. Okay, stand by. So you motion that you you changed the motion. So is there a second to that particular motion? Now it's been changed. What is the motion? [3:30:00, 3:30:12]: The motion calls for a fee schedule for litter on the parking lot, damage on the parking lot, and overgrown grass on the parking lot. The initial fines for all of those. [3:30:12, 3:30:17]: uh offenses called for a minimum fine of two hundred dollars for each category. [3:30:18, 3:30:28]: Uh litter on the parking lot will be two hundred dollars first fine, five hundred dollars second fine, a thousand dollars third fine. Damage to the parking lot initially. [3:30:28, 3:30:32]: will still be two hundred and fifty dollars because it's higher than the minimum. [3:30:32, 3:30:34]: Seven hundred and fifty dollars on a second. [3:30:35, 3:30:36]: Fifteen hundred dollars on the third. [3:30:37, 3:30:39]: The overgrown grass will now be [3:30:39, 3:30:44]: two hundred dollars on the first, five hundred dollars on the second, and a thousand dollars on the third. [3:30:46, 3:31:02]: Um for me, Mayor, I I can only go with in compliance with the charter on that. I'm I'm I'm for fires. If it's two hundred dollars every day up to a thousand, whatever, but I I can't go with a fee schedule that we haven't talked about with with uh [3:31:02, 3:31:22]: uh per pertaining to what this the the state is actually doing and and and with miss johnson and and with I guess Chief Tramer has some kind of um uh um knowledge of this in in this area. I I I think before I agree to throwing out numbers, which I want that enforcement, but I gotta just make sure our numbers are correct and we talk to the proper people that [3:31:22, 3:31:42]: has vetted this enough that that we're not putting something on our police department or code enforcement that is uh excessive. And uh and because you know when you when you put something excessive on someone, you're gonna get an excessive reaction. So for me, I would like them to set those parameters rather than [3:31:42, 3:31:55]: than we set them because to me it could so it sound like it could be a bit excessive pertaining to what we already have in our charter. And I I couldn't agree to that. I wouldn't want to put that on code enforcement nor on the uh police department. [3:31:56, 3:32:02]: I think what my follow-up question, Ms. Johnson, this this list that you have verified does not [3:32:02, 3:32:06]: uh comport with a daily fine. This is just a fine, is that correct? [3:32:07, 3:32:08]: Okay. [3:32:09, 3:32:10]: That's correct. [3:32:10, 3:32:30]: Right. So we're not we're talking apples and apples and oranges and oranges. We're not talking about finding somebody every day. We're talking about a one-time fine because they have time in the provision on the citation to correct it. So it's not a daily fine. So this is where we are if we want to send a strong message that we want our [3:32:30, 3:32:50]: City cleaned up. We got to get serious about this. And we got to hit these businesses who are repeatedly not following and compliant. We know who they are because we see them all the time. And again, we're hitting with what's in the charter right now that's not being enforced. It's already in the charter the$200. The council is giving a clear [3:32:50, 3:32:52]: direct of the code enforcement. [3:32:52, 3:32:53]: Go out there. [3:32:53, 3:32:57]: And may enforce this now. That's what this is doing. [3:32:57, 3:33:01]: Well, Mayor, if you will. Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. [3:33:01, 3:33:07]: You know, we can talk about fines and don't it doesn't matter if it's five thousand dollars. [3:33:07, 3:33:18]: The main thing we need to look at just with l is we just got about two or three weeks ago about this uh inundated area with trash behind a certain area uh off one thirty. [3:33:19, 3:33:29]: One of the things the city, first you have to fix one thing and you implement another. And I think the one thing we got to implement and give directives to is enforcement. [3:33:29, 3:33:39]: When we say that we're not gonna have those uh uh uh uh uh uh bins toward the street and we still send them toward the street, we that's an enforcement issue. [3:33:39, 3:33:59]: So I think that once we deal with the enforcement issues and what we already have on the books, then if it doesn't correct it, then we can implement. I don't believe in putting more making people spend more when enforcement itself has not been put in place. Even with those 17 trucks, I go up there this Saturday or this Sunday and it's 17. [3:33:59, 3:34:01]: seventeen troops still there. [3:34:01, 3:34:21]: What is the enforcement for that? So we have to come up with what how can we enforce this first? How do we uh uh oversee that enforcement and implement it? And then we see how do we put fines in place? But if we're not enforcing these things and making sure it's happening, a fine is not gonna do it. It's only gonna [3:34:21, 3:34:30]: To put a person in a more of a detriment situation, but we I think we need to enforce this stuff first. It starts there, it starts with enforcement. [3:34:30, 3:34:36]: I appreciate it. The mo the the revised motion has been made. I think that's we we still need a second on that. [3:34:38, 3:34:39]: I do have a question. [3:34:39, 3:34:41]: Okay, what's your question, please? [3:34:41, 3:34:42]: Has the attorneys [3:34:43, 3:34:45]: kind of validated um [3:34:46, 3:34:48]: What Chief Tramer? [3:34:48, 3:34:50]: referred to in the charter. [3:34:51, 3:35:02]: I just for me I wanted to kind of keep them separate. Our fee schedule for residential and a separate fee schedule for commercial. However, [3:35:02, 3:35:05]: Chief Tramer has pointed out in the charter. [3:35:05, 3:35:06]: Um about the minimum. [3:35:07, 3:35:07]: Um [3:35:08, 3:35:09]: Fine amount. [3:35:09, 3:35:13]: I just want that verified or validated by the attorneys. [3:35:13, 3:35:14]: Have they? [3:35:15, 3:35:16]: been consulted with this. [3:35:17, 3:35:18]: What are listening? [3:35:18, 3:35:23]: I can council member, I can I'm happy to look now. Yeah, all this is happening in real time. [3:35:24, 3:35:27]: Okay, we were not consulted about additional problems and fees. [3:35:28, 3:35:29]: Okay. [3:35:30, 3:35:35]: Uh just for your reference, uh Jeremy and Quentin, it's uh chapter eleven. [3:35:36, 3:35:42]: It's uh eleven point one six point zero seven and violations, and that's speaking specifically. [3:35:42, 3:35:47]: to littering. I'm not sure if it addresses the new the the nuisances. [3:35:48, 3:35:52]: Uh the nuisances I think that Mayor Pro Tem was referring to regarding the overgrown grass. [3:35:53, 3:35:55]: Um it it says that [3:35:55, 3:35:59]: Fines may be assessed up to a thousand dollars, but it doesn't specify [3:35:59, 3:36:04]: a minimum fine amount for nuisances. They're in two separate uh code section categories. [3:36:07, 3:36:15]: Thank you, Chief Tramer. Um Mayor Ford, I wanted to ask Mayor Pro Tem, can he add to his motion staff with doing [3:36:15, 3:36:16]: Um [3:36:17, 3:36:20]: further research and that would just include the attorneys. [3:36:20, 3:36:25]: uh validating this and I would certainly second this if need be. [3:36:25, 3:36:27]: Uh certainly I I'd agree to that. [3:36:28, 3:36:29]: Okay. [3:36:29, 3:36:33]: And Ms. Barber, that means you second that motion now? Yes. [3:36:33, 3:36:37]: Okay. And I would like to know no uh the Miss Holliday, you you have everything accurate at this point? [3:36:39, 3:36:41]: W what's the motion, Mayor? [3:36:41, 3:36:46]: That's that's why that's why I'm double checking it with Miss Holiday, make sure she has it everything down, right? [3:36:46, 3:36:57]: Outside, you want me to type the motion? Yes, please. All right. So this is the commercial portion of the fee schedule. And that is for the parking lot litter. [3:36:58, 3:37:04]: First fine to be two hundred dollars, second fine to be five hundred dollars, and then the third fine to be one thousand dollars. [3:37:05, 3:37:10]: Also adding for parking lot maintenance and paving and damages to parking lots. [3:37:11, 3:37:18]: First fine to be two hundred and fifty dollars, second fine to be seven hundred and fifty dollars, and the third find to be fifteen hundred dollars. [3:37:18, 3:37:21]: Then you added overgrown grass. [3:37:21, 3:37:22]: For commercial. [3:37:22, 3:37:29]: First fine to be$200, second fine to be$500, and one, the third fine to be$1,000. [3:37:31, 3:37:37]: And then part of this part of this motion now is to have the staff do some additional research. Is that correct? [3:37:37, 3:37:39]: And consult with legal. [3:37:39, 3:37:47]: And consult with legal. That's correct. Okay. Stand my please. Stand my standby. Uh Mayor Pro Tem, is that is that what you want in your motion? [3:37:47, 3:37:51]: That's accurate. Okay. And Mayor and Councilwoman Barber, you second that motion? [3:37:52, 3:37:52]: Um [3:37:54, 3:37:55]: Question. Sorry. [3:37:56, 3:37:56]: So [3:37:57, 3:37:59]: According to Chief Tramer. [3:37:59, 3:38:00]: The minimum [3:38:00, 3:38:02]: Fine is two hundred dollars. [3:38:02, 3:38:03]: But [3:38:03, 3:38:04]: Um [3:38:05, 3:38:11]: The city clerk just read off some of the fines that began the first event offense with two hundred and fifty dollars. [3:38:11, 3:38:15]: So that goes back to the point that Councilman Blount made. [3:38:15, 3:38:17]: about being excessive. [3:38:18, 3:38:21]: That is why I wanted the attorneys to review. [3:38:21, 3:38:25]: Um in the charter the language that Chief Tramer spoke to. [3:38:25, 3:38:28]: Want to make sure that we are not approving. [3:38:28, 3:38:31]: Excess of five or excess of three here. [3:38:32, 3:38:35]: Okay, l let's address this this way. Let's make them all two hundred dollars then. [3:38:37, 3:38:44]: Okay. The initial fund would be two hundred dollars on on that one instead of two fifty. So we'll we'll do what you said, which is [3:38:44, 3:38:46]: Instead of making that middle one two fifty. [3:38:46, 3:38:49]: We'll make all the initial funds two hundred dollars. [3:38:49, 3:38:52]: In accordance with what Councilwoman Barber said. [3:38:52, 3:38:53]: Can you know? [3:38:54, 3:38:57]: Clarify your motion altogether because [3:38:57, 3:39:05]: Okay, let me restate it once again. Have no problem doing that. This we might get this right before you do it. Stand by. Let me get my motion. [3:39:05, 3:39:09]: The litter on the parking lot will be two hundred dollars on the first defense. [3:39:09, 3:39:13]: Five hundred dollars on the second offense, one thousand dollars on the third offense. [3:39:14, 3:39:17]: The damage to the parking lot will be two hundred dollars on the first defense. [3:39:17, 3:39:20]: Seven hundred and fifty dollars on a second offense. [3:39:20, 3:39:22]: Fifteen hundred dollars on the third of fifth. [3:39:22, 3:39:29]: Overgrown grass will be$200 on the first offense,$500 on the second offense,$1,000 on the third offense. [3:39:31, 3:39:37]: And with the with the with the c provisions to consult legal uh as well uh and staff. [3:39:38, 3:39:42]: Okay. And there and Miss Barber, once again, you were second that motion. Is that correct? [3:39:44, 3:39:46]: Yes. Okay. Mr. Blanc, go ahead, please. [3:39:47, 3:39:52]: May Mayor and I and I and I definitely appreciate the passion of all my colleagues for what we're trying to do. [3:39:53, 3:39:55]: But I believe that in a way to keep it clean. [3:39:56, 3:39:58]: Is that I agree with the two hundred dollars. [3:39:59, 3:40:19]: But when you read the charter, it says it says it can go up to a thousand dollars. I think when you get past a warning and then you get to a fine, then you're dealing now with the courts. Fines are dealing with the courts. And then if you have to go before the judge, let that be the judge determination between that two hundred dollars to [3:40:19, 3:40:22]: to that thousand dollar, what that person's gonna be charged. [3:40:22, 3:40:42]: If it's up to a thousand dollars, that judge may say on that second offense, you're gonna pay a thousand dollars because of whatever. Each situation is gonna have a uniqueness or something attached to it. And I think that that should be left up to the courts to determine what that unique situation may be. So if we say$200 at that point, that we start to find [3:40:42, 3:40:53]: It becomes a court situation. Let the judge determine what that person's gonna end up paying. And you keep the courts and the police department separate from what we're legislating as a counsel. [3:40:55, 3:40:58]: Mayor, if I may, the the provision that the [3:40:58, 3:41:05]: Uh in the code that the chief read is correct. It's eleven point one six point zero seven zero. [3:41:06, 3:41:08]: Which caps the fine at a thousand dollars. [3:41:08, 3:41:16]: And I believe under Georgia law, the most a misdemeanor could be anyway would be a thousand dollars. We need to set that as the the upper limit. [3:41:18, 3:41:21]: Okay. Thank you for that. Miss Barber? [3:41:21, 3:41:32]: Yes, so I believe the reason for setting these fee schedules is not only for um people who may go before the courts or the judge, but there are some [3:41:32, 3:41:36]: who might want to just outright pay their fine and not go to court. [3:41:36, 3:41:38]: And we want to have a schedule put together. [3:41:38, 3:41:39]: Um [3:41:39, 3:41:40]: So that [3:41:41, 3:41:42]: Those funds. [3:41:42, 3:41:51]: or the fees for those funds are captured in a table here. Of course, the judge, it is at his discretion. [3:41:51, 3:42:00]: of whether or not um to impose this fee schedule based on every situation. But at least want to have a period there. [3:42:00, 3:42:05]: Absolutely. And Mayor, based on what the attorneys uh are you done, Miss Markham? Sorry. [3:42:06, 3:42:07]: I'm done. Go ahead. [3:42:07, 3:42:11]: Based on what the attorney just told us on his best legal advice with a [3:42:11, 3:42:14]: with a misdemeanor being kept out. [3:42:14, 3:42:34]: uh at$1,000. The damage to the parking lot fee schedule would be$200 first offense,$750 second offense, and$1,000 third offense instead of$1,500 because that is uh not inside those lines. And the and that's what Mr. Berry has stated that the maximum fine is one [3:42:34, 3:42:35]: One thousand dollars. [3:42:36, 3:42:37]: Note noted. Or [3:42:38, 3:42:48]: May Mayor. Stand by. Stand by, please. All right. So you're making an adjustment to your motion. I would imagine once again that adjustment has been seconded by Miss Barber. Is that correct? [3:42:49, 3:42:58]: I was asking Mayor Pro Tem, is this fee schedule he just recited, is it across the board for residential and commercial? It's for com it's commercial only. [3:42:58, 3:43:13]: need to state that in this motion. This this motion is for commercial only for the damage to the parking lot would be two hundred dollars first offense, seven hundred fifty dollars second offense, and one thousand for commercial entities only. [3:43:15, 3:43:20]: I believe Miss Holliday had that uh Nestle anyway, I I believe. Is that correct? [3:43:23, 3:43:24]: It's all day. [3:43:27, 3:43:36]: Sorry, yes. I'm sorry, I didn't know my um video was off. Yes, I do. So that now that we've captured what the fee schedule is for commercial. [3:43:36, 3:43:41]: What is our fee schedule for residential? Are we adopting what is suggested by staff? [3:43:41, 3:43:43]: Or are we updating that to meet? [3:43:43, 3:43:44]: The charter. [3:43:45, 3:43:48]: Um to comply with the charter with two hundred dollars. [3:43:49, 3:43:50]: Minimum fee. [3:43:51, 3:43:51]: Mm. [3:43:52, 3:44:02]: Well, before we answer that question, do you are you seconding it he made a motion, re he revised his motion. Are you gonna second that revised motion or not? No, because I need to know. [3:44:03, 3:44:09]: This this is cu this is commercial only. It's not related to the residential. We can do a separate one on the residential. [3:44:10, 3:44:15]: to make sure we address the residential piece as well. I suck in this. [3:44:16, 3:44:17]: All right. [3:44:18, 3:44:26]: Mr. Blount, you still have something you wanted to say, sir? May I use it? I'm sorry, I didn't see you, Mr. Thomas. Yeah, I've been I've been holding it for the longest. [3:44:27, 3:44:28]: Okay, I'm sorry about that. [3:44:28, 3:44:31]: Oh sorry, Mr. Blount. Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. [3:44:32, 3:44:36]: Uh Mayor Ford, um all of us are over the talk limit. [3:44:36, 3:44:43]: Uh I I move that we we go to the vote, please. I was gonna do that, sir. I got it. I got it. So stand by. [3:44:45, 3:44:47]: Yeah, everything one last comment, Mr. LeBron. [3:44:47, 3:45:03]: What I was gonna say is that what was said by the attorney is is is the fee when it comes to misdemeanors is up to a thousand dollars. Anything over a thousand dollars in the state of Georgia is is beyond a misdemeanor. Anything over twelve months uh jail time is over a misdemeanor. [3:45:03, 3:45:08]: When it says up to a thousand dollars, that's the discretion given to the courts. [3:45:09, 3:45:17]: I believe it should be given to the courts. That's why when you pass away and it says up to a thousand dollars, that discretion is for the courts. [3:45:17, 3:45:17]: All right. [3:45:19, 3:45:23]: All right, so okay. So the motion has been made, it's been second. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [3:45:24, 3:45:25]: All post. [3:45:27, 3:45:40]: I need you to note the vote, Mayor. Uh there's three three right now. Three uh Mr. Blount, what is your vote? You I abstain, Mayor, because Okay, so it's three zero three zero one. The motion passed, three zero one. All right. Now in reference to residential. [3:45:41, 3:45:45]: And uh we are doing something separate of residential. That was commercial, so something different residential here. [3:45:50, 3:45:54]: Miss Johnson, there's there's something different and residential that you need from us. [3:45:55, 3:45:55]: No. [3:45:55, 3:45:56]: No sé. [3:45:56, 3:45:57]: Okay. [3:45:58, 3:46:03]: So what we passed was commercial residential seems to be fine as as it as it stands. What are that correct? [3:46:04, 3:46:05]: A risk [3:46:05, 3:46:12]: Well, state the residential. It's right now it's fifty dollars, seventy five, a hundred, and one fifty. Are you comfortable with that, councilwoman? [3:46:14, 3:46:17]: No, aren't we supposed to be complying with the code? [3:46:19, 3:46:21]: Everything is two hundred dollars. [3:46:21, 3:46:24]: minimum fee. That's what the code says, right? [3:46:24, 3:46:25]: Am I misunderstanding it? [3:46:27, 3:46:31]: Is it two hundred dollars for the res residential two uh lawyer uh attorneys? [3:46:33, 3:46:39]: Anything that comes up under chapter eleven, the penalty section is just eleven point sixteen point zero seven oh. [3:46:40, 3:46:43]: But that also does and that's what we're trying to look at now. [3:46:43, 3:46:50]: All the littering is covered under 11.16 and that and and that involves littering on public or private. [3:46:51, 3:46:54]: And that also involves littering in [3:46:54, 3:46:55]: public or private property. [3:46:56, 3:46:57]: And so [3:46:57, 3:47:00]: We're looking now for the commercial, but we're trying to [3:47:01, 3:47:04]: Answer y'all's questions while at the same time looking at this. [3:47:04, 3:47:05]: It won't be [3:47:05, 3:47:07]: We have to do that. [3:47:09, 3:47:13]: Mayor, my concern is that I just won't don't want us making [3:47:13, 3:47:20]: uh putting this fee schedule in a place and I agree with councilwoman barber outside the boundaries of our code. [3:47:21, 3:47:27]: of our uh that that we have in our coat because if we do those things can be challenged those things when you find yourself [3:47:27, 3:47:45]: doing something to a resident or business, those are the kind of things that get us in litigation if we are going outside those boundaries. And we have to be careful and cautious when something says up to that we're implementing that direct amount because up to should be the discretion of the courts. [3:47:46, 3:48:04]: All right. So what the we on the commercial side we passed that. So now we're looking to residential. Is there anything different than residential? Anything else that Ms. Johnson, you think you need to add to this conversation to help us with this process? This is your this this is your daily wick here. Um because there, you know, there's some questions about the commercial versus residential. [3:48:04, 3:48:07]: Um the this fee schedule is based on, you know. [3:48:08, 3:48:09]: region wide. [3:48:09, 3:48:29]: Um if we need to go back, if if myself and staff need to go back and take a look at this and work with the attorneys on these fees, then we can do that and bring it back because um the violations and penalties in the code, those amounts are based on conviction and [3:48:29, 3:48:36]: And the judge makes that decision. And I think we just need to make a distinction between what the judge has a max. [3:48:37, 3:48:48]: penalty for violators versus the fee schedule that is for the actual violations that people can just pay the amount, go on and then come into compliance. So [3:48:48, 3:48:51]: If that's the pleasure of the board, just a suggestion. [3:48:52, 3:49:12]: All right, so let me so the commercial has been passed. We set that there right now is residential. So otherwise, if uh you're more than willing, Miss Johnson, if the council wants to delay this to come back further, maybe in another month or so, I guess in this aspect after confirming with the attorneys to make sure that everything is proper on the on the residential side. No certainly. [3:49:12, 3:49:16]: Okay that's what you're suggesting. Okay, so now the the issue would be [3:49:16, 3:49:19]: This should be the whether the council won wants that to occur or not. [3:49:20, 3:49:21]: Yeah, forward. Ms. Barber, go ahead. [3:49:22, 3:49:30]: I motion to approve the suggestion Ms. Johnson just mentioned. [3:49:30, 3:49:31]: About [3:49:32, 3:49:33]: Consulting with the attorneys. [3:49:34, 3:49:36]: Um and bringing us back. [3:49:36, 3:49:37]: Oh [3:49:37, 3:49:38]: A clean people. [3:49:39, 3:49:46]: And make that thirty days and then we can we and and with a t with a time with a deadline and then I'm okay with it. I'll second. [3:49:48, 3:49:49]: Ms. Barber? [3:49:50, 3:49:51]: Okay, thirty days. [3:49:51, 3:49:52]: Second. [3:49:52, 3:49:53]: And it's back in thirty days. [3:49:54, 3:49:55]: All right. [3:49:55, 3:50:02]: And this is dealing with the residential only, is what we're talking about. Okay. All right. So all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [3:50:04, 3:50:12]: Uh I see Miss uh Mr. Thomas. Mr. Thomas, okay, gotcha. Okay, so uh Mr Mr. Blount, what's your vote, sir? [3:50:13, 3:50:15]: This is the brain of peace schedule back in thirty days. [3:50:15, 3:50:21]: Yes, it is. The the the for residential. For residential. Okay, so you're in favor? [3:50:23, 3:50:31]: You're in favor, Ms. Mill. Okay, so that's that's four. Miss Oliver S for four votes for that. Okay, thank you. We're gonna we're now done with this particular section. [3:50:31, 3:50:34]: We'll move on. Thank you, Mayor. Oh, you're welcome. Thank you. [3:50:35, 3:50:42]: Okay, so number twenty-five, council consideration to approve the vehicle usage policy for the city of Stockbridge Police Department. [3:50:42, 3:50:44]: Uh Chief Traveler, sir, please. [3:50:45, 3:50:50]: Yes, Mayor Council, thank you. Uh as you are aware, we're in the process of um [3:50:50, 3:50:57]: After the first of the year, we will begin recruiting personnel for our police department. We have 53 positions that we still need to recruit for. [3:50:57, 3:51:05]: Chief, stand by a second. Chief, I'm sorry, stand by. And Miss uh uh Miss Johnson, can there you go? Thank you, appreciate it. Thank you. Go ahead, Chief. Go ahead. [3:51:05, 3:51:06]: I'm sorry. [3:51:06, 3:51:06]: Quite chief. [3:51:07, 3:51:16]: Okay, yes, sir. And um one of the things that we're doing is developing some recruitment literature. One of the benefits that we would like to provide to officers that will be seeking to join our department. [3:51:16, 3:51:27]: is the benefit of a take-home vehicle. Um obviously there are a number of benefits for having a take home vehicle, uh many of which are listed in the policy, but I would like to state publicly that some of the benefits include [3:51:28, 3:51:35]: Um, I think first and foremost is just enhanced safety and security in the community, just by having increased visibility and presence of police vehicles. [3:51:36, 3:51:40]: on the streets, roadways, and neighborhoods, it certainly serves as a turrent to crime. [3:51:40, 3:51:41]: Um [3:51:41, 3:51:43]: It also provides a quicker response time. [3:51:44, 3:51:46]: of officers who are assigned those vehicles. [3:51:47, 3:51:51]: Uh it reduces our maintenance costs and it's proven to increase the life expectancy of vehicles. [3:51:51, 3:52:01]: It also allows for the rapid deployment of off-duty personnel in the event that there's an emergency that occurs in the city that necessitates a response of off-duty officers. [3:52:01, 3:52:07]: It also uh enhances accountability by being able to hold an individual officer specifically accountable for an assigned vehicle. [3:52:08, 3:52:12]: And then as I've mentioned before, it is um a a [3:52:13, 3:52:15]: Huge incentive for officers. [3:52:15, 3:52:19]: To maintain employment with our department і so. [3:52:19, 3:52:23]: Uh many of the provisions of this policy uh there are [3:52:23, 3:52:24]: Um [3:52:25, 3:52:28]: They're they're in duplicate of what the city's current uh [3:52:29, 3:52:32]: vehicle policy is. However, there are some additions. [3:52:32, 3:52:35]: Specific to uh law enforcement vehicles. [3:52:35, 3:52:40]: Uh one of the differences is that we're seeking uh council approval for the minimum. [3:52:40, 3:52:48]: Uh, mileage restriction for that vehicle to be 35 miles. So officers that live within a 35 mile radius of the city limits. [3:52:49, 3:52:51]: would be eligible for a take home vehicle. [3:52:51, 3:52:55]: And the reason for the thirty five mile uh limit is [3:52:55, 3:53:02]: We w basically pulled distance from city limits to adjacent counties, and the furthest distance of any of those adjacent counties was thirty-five miles. [3:53:03, 3:53:08]: There is no set standard for take home mileage. It varies from department to department. [3:53:08, 3:53:23]: Um, I know there are um as a matter of fact, all the agencies in Henry County uh do offer a a take home vehicle program and the mileage differs for those agencies. As a point of reference, Henry County's minimum mileage is fifteen miles. [3:53:23, 3:53:24]: From the county. [3:53:24, 3:53:30]: Uh McDonough's is twenty, Hampton's is twenty five, and the city of Locust Grove is thirty-five miles. [3:53:30, 3:53:41]: We would like to remain among the most competitive and uh that's why we seek council's approval for that minimum thirty-five mile take home radius for officers to be eligible for a take home vehicle. [3:53:42, 3:53:42]: Air for [3:53:43, 3:53:43]: Yes, man. [3:53:44, 3:53:51]: I'd like to accept and approve the recommendation as made by Chief Tramer. We certainly want to be competitive. [3:53:52, 3:53:56]: Okay. Mr. Thomas Second Dan. Okay, further discussion. [3:53:57, 3:53:59]: But okay, all in favor, please indicate. [3:54:00, 3:54:04]: All right then, Mr. Blount, did you I didn't see your vote, sir. [3:54:05, 3:54:20]: Okay, so unanimous decision. Thank you very much. All right, we'll move right on. Uh council consideration to approve the purchase of body worn cameras, in-car video cameras, and associated storage costs for the city of Starburst Police Department. Funding source ARPA. [3:54:20, 3:54:21]: Chief Tramor, please. [3:54:22, 3:54:30]: Yes, Mayor and Council, if I could, um, I would like to allow Commander Richard Godfrey to present all these items. Uh Commander Godfrey. [3:54:30, 3:54:40]: uh did most of the research on these and is very familiar with a lot of the technical components. So if the council uh will allow, I'd like to turn this over to uh Commander Godfrey to present. [3:54:40, 3:54:41]: on uh the these items. [3:54:42, 3:54:43]: Okay, go ahead, please. [3:54:49, 3:54:50]: Well, Mr. Godfrey, go right ahead. Commander. [3:55:00, 3:55:03]: Can't hear you. Okay, I can't hear him, uh, Commander. [3:55:10, 3:55:12]: He is not muted, so he may have a problem with his mic. [3:55:13, 3:55:14]: Okay. [3:55:16, 3:55:18]: Okay, might be a problem with your mic there, Commander. [3:55:19, 3:55:23]: How about now? Oh there you go. Al standing. Gotcha. Okay. [3:55:23, 3:55:34]: So before you tonight, sir, is a resolution to approve uh body warn in any car camera systems. We have evaluated several different companies from a company referred to as GTAC. [3:55:34, 3:55:40]: uh Motorola uh watch guard and the one before you tonight is uh axon [3:55:40, 3:55:48]: Uh you most of you may know the company name better as Taser. Uh the name was changed a few years ago to Axon International. [3:55:49, 3:55:56]: So the uh cost factor that you have before you um is uh [3:55:57, 3:56:11]: a breakdown so you can see the total number so the uh body worn camera uh package would be a total for a total of 50 uh body worn cameras and the associated equipment to uh go along with it [3:56:12, 3:56:23]: Um some of the capabilities of these cameras, just like a cell phone has an LTE capability, so it has a a built-in SIM card within the body camera. [3:56:24, 3:56:44]: So when the officer uh is on a call or exits that vehicle, uh let's say a foot chase ensued uh that ended the officer with a quarter mile to a half mile away from the vehicle. And what that built-in SIM car is gonna allow them to do is to be tracked via GPS. So let's say that that officer was injured. [3:56:43, 3:57:03]: And could not get onto the radio, we would be able to track that officer via GPS and be able to locate them then provide uh medical assistance to that officer. Um built into uh the system as well, uh as part of what you're gonna hear in a few minutes with the uh taser program. The taser has a built-in [3:57:03, 3:57:05]: Uh microchip. [3:57:05, 3:57:25]: So when that it is withdrawn from the holster, it automatically activates the body camera. This works in cohesion with the built-in with the N-CAR camera system so that we can program various triggers to activate the body camera as well. So when the officer engages their emergency equipment. [3:57:25, 3:57:26]: Lights and sour. [3:57:26, 3:57:30]: Um when they turn on the uh onboard camera system. [3:57:31, 3:57:39]: When they open the door to exit the vehicle, all of these are built-in triggers to be able to activate the body worn camera. [3:57:39, 3:57:56]: Uh as you all know, body one cameras today are vital. Uh they protect the citizens and they protect the officer against false allegations. Uh so it is imperative that we not only implement the body one camera system, but we implement a camera system. [3:57:56, 3:57:58]: That is on the leading edge of technology. [3:57:58, 3:58:09]: And we all believe at the command staff level that Exxon will provide the leading edge of technology and prevail provide this type of service for many years to come. [3:58:11, 3:58:23]: Appreciate that. I um my initial question, you said 50, I thought, said 50 of these items that you wanted to purchase, but I don't I must have missed it. Did you have a total amount that uh ARPA funds this would this would uh cost? [3:58:24, 3:58:25]: Yes, sir. [3:58:25, 3:58:29]: Just one. Can you share can you share the uh can you share your screen, Commander Godfrey? [3:58:29, 3:58:33]: Shows the summary of the cost for those Yes sir. That's that's what I'm pulling up now. [3:58:49, 3:58:51]: Can everyone see my screen? [3:58:51, 3:58:51]: Yes. [3:58:53, 3:59:13]: So the first uh packet that you're looking at is for the fleet camera system. This is 42 uh in-car camera systems, uh 42 cradle points. What cradle points are is a uh router system that goes in the trunk of the car. So we've all seen little MIFIs or little jet. [3:59:13, 3:59:25]: net packs that are a broadband wireless network uh that you can operate. It's very similar to your wireless system that you would have at home or within like City Hall. [3:59:25, 3:59:41]: And what this allows it to do is to any wireless device within the car, which is the N-CAR camera system, the Body Worn camera system, our records management system that we'll be moving forward with, it allows that to provide network connectivity to all the systems. [3:59:42, 3:59:42]: Um [3:59:44, 3:59:45]: It also has [3:59:46, 3:59:53]: uh a built-in the new system that we're looking at, which will be released in the first quarter of 2022. [3:59:53, 3:59:57]: The front facing camera system also has a built-in license plate reader. [3:59:57, 4:00:07]: So you no longer have to look at that as a separate cost or separate purchase. And it is also integrated within the Axon camera system itself. [4:00:08, 4:00:28]: So as I advance down to the next couple of pages down, you will see the cost for the N-CAR systems. Uh, and this is a five-year program at 471-743-99. And that is for the N-CAR camera systems. Uh, the next uh tab over. [4:00:28, 4:00:48]: You will see the body worn camera systems. These are for the uh 50 body camera systems, comes with the various mounts, uh cables, uh, professional licensing that is needed for this. It comes with uh evidence.com, which is the back-end uh software management system, which is where [4:00:47, 4:00:57]: All the N-Car camera videos, Body One camera videos, uh the taser downloads, all of this will be stored in the backend software of evidence.com. [4:00:59, 4:01:06]: The total cost for the body warm camera system for a five-year program is two thirty-nine five hundred and one cent. [4:01:09, 4:01:14]: Okay. Thank you for that. Uh council, any questions for uh Commander Goffrey here? [4:01:15, 4:01:16]: Yes, um [4:01:16, 4:01:17]: Go ahead, please. [4:01:17, 4:01:18]: Pretty. [4:01:18, 4:01:21]: What was the total cost of the in car system? [4:01:23, 4:01:24]: So let me go back to that for you. [4:01:30, 4:01:35]: Okay, I got it. Four hundred four hundred and seventy one thousand seven forty three ninety nine. [4:01:36, 4:01:36]: Yes, ma'am. [4:01:37, 4:01:38]: Thank you. Um [4:01:39, 4:01:43]: So what it is there a warranty also included in this cost? [4:01:44, 4:01:49]: Yes, ma'am. Everything is warranted against a full replacement for over the five year period. [4:01:49, 4:01:52]: Okay, so it's not a separate cost. [4:01:52, 4:01:55]: No ma'am, it is incor incorporated within this this quote. [4:01:55, 4:02:11]: Thank you. And that is also ac includes accidental damage. So if the officer, if it gets damaged, uh say the body worn camera gets damaged during a struggle or it falls off during a foot pursuit and it's lost, uh, any type of damage at all, it is fully covered and fully replaceable. [4:02:14, 4:02:19]: Fantastic. Any other questions for Commander Goffer? Yeah. Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. [4:02:19, 4:02:25]: Yes, sir. Thank you, sir, for your presentation. Oh, I have a question about the technology. [4:02:25, 4:02:26]: Yeah, it's still. [4:02:26, 4:02:27]: So [4:02:27, 4:02:34]: There's uh systems apparently in the past where you know, we're dealing with social justice and where we are in America right now. So [4:02:35, 4:02:41]: These cameras, do the officers have the ability to turn them all on and off, or are they on a hundred percent of the time? [4:02:42, 4:02:54]: They are on. The officer will have the ability, just like any technology of being able to turn it off. However, our our policy will dictate that the camera remains on as long as they're engaging with the citizen. [4:02:56, 4:02:58]: Okay, so the policy will be [4:02:58, 4:03:01]: As long as they're engaging with a citizen at any time that [4:03:02, 4:03:06]: It so is there a technology where the camera can't be turned off or no? [4:03:07, 4:03:25]: No, sir. Most uh all the body cameras that we have evaluated have the ability of being able to turn it off. So it it falls back to a policy. And within that policy is going to require supervision to spot check a certain percentage of those videos to make sure that the officers are in compliance. [4:03:26, 4:03:31]: And and if I could, just to the technology mayor pro tem, one of the things I want to share with you, it's not yet [4:03:32, 4:03:35]: Um it's not yet available, but there is discussion with this company that [4:03:36, 4:03:41]: uh it has the capability to uh recognize uh it's got the voice analytics. [4:03:42, 4:03:49]: So uh future technology, if there's any abusive language or anything that's being said by the officer, it can send. [4:03:50, 4:03:57]: Or should be able to send in the future an alert to the supervisors to review that incident so that we have enhanced capability with our officers. So if they're [4:03:58, 4:04:10]: you know, i is is some sort of expletives or or derogatory profane language, then it would cue those things up for supervisory to review for us to be able to look at those contextually to see what um [4:04:10, 4:04:30]: uh what what's what's happening in that interaction. And obviously because of privacy concerns, you can't record the officer twenty four seven. I mean, they've got to go to the restroom and do a lot of personal things and they'll have access to uh confidential information. And so the the capability to turn on and off has to be there. However, again by our policy, uh it will [4:04:30, 4:04:31]: predicate. [4:04:31, 4:04:44]: when they're to turn it on and off and we will be checking for that. But another thing too is that we will be implementing triggers too. So that when the officer pulls their weapon from their holster, it will automatically activate their body camera. [4:04:44, 4:04:48]: when they turn their taser on, it will automatically activate their body camera. [4:04:48, 4:04:58]: So uh this system's very robust. It's at the forefront of the technology. And um I think that in terms of accountability, this is this is probably the best option out there. [4:04:58, 4:05:12]: And to piggyback on the chief's comment on that technology, uh understand that this technology is being released next year. Uh this technology will be considered as a firmware update and there will be no additional cost to the city. [4:05:13, 4:05:14]: Thank you. [4:05:15, 4:05:17]: Uh Councilwoman Barber, go ahead, please. [4:05:18, 4:05:30]: I was going to ask about the in-car systems. I know that there's um your request for uh a quantity of 50 of the body worn cameras, but what about the in-car systems? [4:05:31, 4:05:33]: How many of the vehicles will be [4:05:34, 4:05:37]: fit it with this in your proposal right here. [4:05:37, 4:05:48]: So all of the cars on patrol to include the ones we will be identified for crime scene technicians will all be equipped with in-car cameras. [4:05:50, 4:05:50]: Okay. [4:05:51, 4:05:55]: But with this figure of four hundred and seventy one thousand seven hundred and forty three [4:05:56, 4:05:57]: Towers. [4:05:59, 4:06:04]: All of the vehicles is it sixty-two vehicles, Chief Tramer? I think [4:06:04, 4:06:11]: There's sixty sixty vehicles actually. So forty-two will be equipped as Commander Gonfrey had said. Those will be all the marked patrol vehicles. [4:06:11, 4:06:16]: Um the unmarked vehicles, uh the vehicles detectives will be using in in [4:06:16, 4:06:19]: Command staff will not have those camera systems. [4:06:19, 4:06:23]: Because by law they are not supposed to be used for traffic enforcement. [4:06:23, 4:06:31]: So we really and they won't be set up for prisoner transport. So the need for those uh does not exist beyond the uh patrol vehicle. [4:06:31, 4:06:35]: We could obviously, you know, in include those, but I don't think that it would be worth the cost. [4:06:35, 4:06:40]: And what that breaks down to is about eleven thousand two hundred and thirty dollars per vehicle. [4:06:40, 4:06:45]: for that system. And again, this is cutting edge technology with these cameras. [4:06:45, 4:06:50]: It has the ability to automatically it reads all the license plates in front of the officers. [4:06:50, 4:06:59]: So if there's a stolen vehicle, if there's a wanted person, if there's a missing person, it's scanning all this information and it's giving that information right back to the officer immediately. [4:07:00, 4:07:01]: Thank you. [4:07:01, 4:07:02]: Therefore, another [4:07:02, 4:07:22]: Another prime reason why we're looking at Axon as well. Um, we're gonna be looking at additional later on, additional cameras, stationary cameras uh around the city. Uh Axon being the only company right now that partners with another company called Flock. I don't know if you have anybody heard of that, but a lot of city municipalities. [4:07:22, 4:07:42]: These counties and even statewide are implementing these cameras. And what they're doing is they're running these tags continuously as vehicles are entering the city. So for we're looking for suspended drivers, we're looking for people who have outstanding warrants tagged against the vehicle. So [4:07:42, 4:07:51]: Uh again, we're trying to leverage all the different various technologies that we can to enhance uh the city uh police department. [4:07:53, 4:07:53]: Yeah. [4:07:54, 4:07:57]: All right, uh Councilman uh Blount, go ahead, please. [4:07:58, 4:08:14]: Yeah, thank you, Mayor. Um, just to be clear, this these amounts, it said for five years. So this this the one time amount on both of these, which is about a little over seven hundred thousand dollars. That seven hundred thousand dollars that the one time amount is at the residual amount for five years. [4:08:15, 4:08:22]: That is a one time amount covering the the five years. And we can we can choose to remain in that equipment at that time, or we can look at [4:08:23, 4:08:27]: upgrading to the newest technology that may be available at that time. [4:08:27, 4:08:33]: How often does the technology advances? Because if we're locking in for five years. [4:08:33, 4:08:45]: Where will we find ourselves in an advancement of because you know our technology can, you know, I just want to know how, how, how quickly does that technology advance uh in this field? [4:08:45, 4:09:05]: Obviously, you know, there's no way for us to speak on what may come out in the next two years. Uh, because as we've seen, technology is changing sometimes weekly. Uh, but one of the primary reasons why we went with this company is because for right now, this is the latest and greatest technology that is available on the market for incarnation. [4:09:05, 4:09:12]: car cameras uh and body warm cameras. And again, the the we're so advanced in the in-car camera system. [4:09:12, 4:09:13]: That the [4:09:14, 4:09:18]: system that the the front facing camera will be incorporating [4:09:18, 4:09:38]: a license plate reader, which won't even be available until first quarter of next year. Now they will be on our cars based on the time that they're outfitted, but that is technology that is hasn't even hit the market. So we're we're purchasing technology that will be available for us, but it's not available for anybody else right now. [4:09:38, 4:09:46]: Okay. And the other thing, if if Councilman Blount to your point, if I could just inject for a moment in in in uh Commander Godfrey, uh correct me if I'm wrong. [4:09:46, 4:09:55]: that this system with the body worn devices includes a an an upgrade uh two, three years into the thing. So basically they would [4:09:55, 4:09:58]: They would upgrade this system and we would get new cameras. [4:09:59, 4:10:01]: two or three years into the contract. Is that correct? [4:10:01, 4:10:11]: Yeah, for the body worn cameras, we would have what's referred to as a refresh after two and a half years. So if Exxon does change the technology of their camera. [4:10:11, 4:10:18]: uh of the body one camera within two and a half years, we would get the upgraded system for the remaining two and a half years. [4:10:18, 4:10:32]: Okay. So we we do get one upgrade. Uh are we dealing directly with Ax Axon or are we dealing through uh a third entity? Are we dealing directly with Axon? Yes, sir. We're dealing directly with Axon on this purchase. [4:10:33, 4:10:37]: Okay, good. Uh great job, guys. Thanks a lot. Yes, sir. [4:10:37, 4:10:39]: Okay, if they're not the yes, my Miss Barber. [4:10:41, 4:10:46]: I was just gonna say you you don't you don't see me? I'm sorry, Mr. Thomas. I didn't see you. Go ahead, sir. [4:10:48, 4:11:01]: Go go ahead, Miss Bar. I just want to know, do you see me? Because I've been holding my hand up all night and you see Well, I have s I have to keep rotating back and forth. My screen only has six of you, so I have to re rotate back and forth. And I've been doing that. Now missed go ahead. If you want Miss Barber to go, she can go. [4:11:02, 4:11:09]: Okay. I I was gonna move to approve so we can go on because you know we're talking five or six time on the subject. So I'm I'm just trying to [4:11:10, 4:11:11]: I mean, you're trying to move us along. [4:11:11, 4:11:13]: Are you to uh [4:11:13, 4:11:15]: Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [4:11:15, 4:11:18]: That's exactly what I was gonna do. I was gonna make a motion. [4:11:18, 4:11:20]: Okay. Make a motion. That's great. [4:11:20, 4:11:40]: Approve, the purchase of body worn cameras, in-car video cameras, and associated storage costs for the City of Stockbridge Police Department, the funding source ARPA in the amount of seven hundred eleven thousand two hundred and forty-three dollars and ninety-nine cents. That is the total, correct? [4:11:40, 4:11:41]: Okay. [4:11:42, 4:11:42]: Okay. [4:11:42, 4:11:48]: I'm sorry, we're off what I'm sorry, we're off one cent. It's seven hundred and eleven thousand two hundred and forty four dollars even. [4:11:49, 4:11:49]: Okay. Yeah. [4:11:51, 4:11:57]: Okay. Seven hundred eleven thousand two hundred and forty-three dollars, uh forty four dollars. [4:11:58, 4:12:09]: Right. I do. Okay. Miss uh Barber made a motion. Mayor Pro Temp second that motion. All in favor of motion, please indicate. [4:12:10, 4:12:21]: Okay, and I would imagine Mr. Blount, you will you approve that as well. Okay, good deal. Thank you very much. All right. So now it's decision on that on that aspect. Thank you. [4:12:23, 4:12:28]: Council consideration to approve and the purchase of mobile in-car police radios. [4:12:29, 4:12:31]: For the C stop Bridge Police Department funding source ARPA. [4:12:32, 4:12:34]: Mr. uh Chief Tramor, please. [4:12:36, 4:12:38]: Mayor Godfrey, can you pull up those quotes, please? [4:12:45, 4:12:47]: Thank you. And if you would uh go ahead with that, uh sir. [4:12:48, 4:13:08]: So in addition to uh the body worn in-car camera systems before you tonight, we also have a requisition to purchase for your approval uh to purchase both uh portable and in-car radios um from Loudoun Communications, which is the authorized dealer for uh Harris 3 uh radio. [4:13:08, 4:13:17]: This is the same system that Henry County, as well as all the other city municipalities, use in Henry County. They are also on state contract. [4:13:19, 4:13:19]: Okay. [4:13:20, 4:13:24]: Questions for Chief uh Godfrey uh excuse me, Commander Goffery. [4:13:24, 4:13:26]: Uh Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [4:13:27, 4:13:33]: Um well this is in reference to the last item and this one as well. I wanted to ask. [4:13:34, 4:13:35]: So [4:13:39, 4:13:43]: I guess we need to know what the balance is. [4:13:44, 4:13:47]: And I can I can speak to that um uh councilwoman barber. [4:13:48, 4:13:57]: Um I sat down with Mr. Aaron and we looked at uh Mr. Aaron and Mr. Wiggins and I looked at public works projects and police projects. We s we sat down and we looked at things and [4:13:57, 4:14:02]: And um we anticipated from the police department standpoint for [4:14:02, 4:14:12]: Um future purchases about two million dollars. And we have before you tonight about a million and a half of that from ARPA funding. Currently there's about one point four million in [4:14:12, 4:14:18]: the ARPA fund balance at the moment, but we will get the other five and a half million in April. [4:14:19, 4:14:29]: Uh we what we didn't mention on the uh on the axon, the NCAR body worn, uh the NCAR and the body worn cameras as well as the taser proposal that was submit to you later this evening. [4:14:29, 4:14:31]: is that those um [4:14:31, 4:14:37]: Those items will not be the contract states, those items payments not due until May twenty twenty two. [4:14:37, 4:14:44]: So we will have the next round of ARPA funding in for uh those purchases before those purchases are due. [4:14:44, 4:14:50]: But we have uh w we have currently used three point one million. [4:14:51, 4:14:53]: for the vehicles and associated equipment. [4:14:53, 4:14:58]: uh we'll be using one point five million for these purchases and ARPA funding. [4:14:58, 4:15:00]: Which is uh four point six. [4:15:00, 4:15:04]: million of the eleven million plus that the city [4:15:04, 4:15:05]: as received. [4:15:06, 4:15:06]: Um [4:15:07, 4:15:09]: We've used, I think, um [4:15:09, 4:15:29]: roughly a million from public work so it puts us at about 5.6. So we've essentially will have used about one disbursement, which leaves us about 5.6 million in ARPA funding available for future purposes in the future. That does not include the extra two million that we may get by virtue of the grant that Mr. Aaron had applied for. [4:15:29, 4:15:32]: So that could go up to seven. [4:15:32, 4:15:33]: Point. [4:15:33, 4:15:44]: uh five seven point six million in additional ARPA funding for future purpose purchases, whether they be public safety or public works or whatever else the council deems uh appropriate. [4:15:45, 4:15:49]: Thank you for that, Chief Trainer. Um, I have one more follow-up question. [4:15:50, 4:15:55]: So you mentioned that this particular item we're piggybacking off of a state contract. [4:15:56, 4:16:03]: There's Harris Harris is on state contract. These radios are on state contract. Um that was sourced in the documents. [4:16:03, 4:16:08]: In Loudoun communication, we have a sole source letter. They are the sole provider of this equipment in the state of Georgia. [4:16:09, 4:16:10]: Thank you for that. [4:16:10, 4:16:12]: And the last item, are we pay backing? [4:16:13, 4:16:14]: Off the state contract correct. [4:16:16, 4:16:16]: Yeah. [4:16:17, 4:16:18]: Which item? [4:16:18, 4:16:20]: Um that's the body worn cameras. [4:16:22, 4:16:24]: Axon is also on state contract, yes, ma'am. [4:16:25, 4:16:26]: Thank you very much. [4:16:26, 4:16:28]: Um the other thing is [4:16:28, 4:16:31]: Most of these items, I know that there are grants out there. [4:16:32, 4:16:36]: But we're having to use ARPA because we have no one at the table. [4:16:37, 4:16:39]: to search for those grants. [4:16:40, 4:16:45]: No, you're you're no you're you're absolutely right. I have a good friend of mine that uh she's actually [4:16:46, 4:16:50]: She's um she's a grants administrator for the Rockdale County Sheriff's Office. [4:16:50, 4:17:04]: As a point as a point of reference, in the last year she's procured two million dollars in additional funding for the Rockdale County Sheriff's Office. This is exactly what I've been talking about. I hope my councilmates are paying attention. We're spending ARPA funds. [4:17:05, 4:17:06]: Of course that's [4:17:06, 4:17:09]: Not money out of our general fund. [4:17:09, 4:17:11]: But if we had another [4:17:11, 4:17:12]: Funding source [4:17:13, 4:17:14]: That a [4:17:14, 4:17:15]: Great. [4:17:15, 4:17:16]: Person [4:17:16, 4:17:20]: could have obtained from us, we wouldn't have to even use the ARPA funds. [4:17:21, 4:17:23]: That is why we need. [4:17:23, 4:17:26]: A grants administrator or [4:17:26, 4:17:39]: Someone at the table going after these grants. That's all. Um, if there are no other comments, I'd make a motion to approve uh this item at the recommendation of our chief and Mr. Commander Godfrey. [4:17:40, 4:17:40]: Second. [4:17:41, 4:17:45]: And Miraportem second that uh Mr. Thomas, you're unmuted. Do you have a comment, sir? [4:17:46, 4:17:48]: Uh I was just going to second. [4:17:49, 4:17:49]: Okay. [4:17:50, 4:17:51]: All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [4:17:53, 4:18:02]: All right, and uh and I believe uh Mr. Blount moved a stepped away for a minute. So anyway, to the pass three, three zero zero. [4:18:02, 4:18:10]: Yes, ma'am. Uh we were good. That was one of the items where they were gonna state the total so that we could put it on the record. [4:18:11, 4:18:11]: Uh. [4:18:11, 4:18:12]: All right. [4:18:13, 4:18:20]: For the radio system, the total amount for the radio system is six hundred and eleven thousand seven hundred and thirty six dollars. [4:18:21, 4:18:31]: All right, thank you. Out of opera funds. Okay. Good good catch. All right. Uh I'm sorry. Can you repeat that again, Commander Gosper? [4:18:31, 4:18:35]: Yes, ma'am, six hundred and eleven thousand seven hundred and thirty six dollars. [4:18:36, 4:18:36]: Thank you. [4:18:38, 4:18:53]: The uh council consideration to approve the purchase of remote control spotlights for the city of Stoppers Police Department patrol vehicles in amount of thirty-seven thousand five hundred eighty-nine dollars and twenty-six cents. Funding sources, ARPA, Chief, please. [4:18:56, 4:18:58]: Uh we had yes, Miss Barber. [4:19:00, 4:19:05]: Um no, I just wanted to ask um Chief Tramer. [4:19:06, 4:19:11]: I know that we need all of these items on order now. We don't want to wait until [4:19:11, 4:19:17]: you know, July first and order some of these items. I know they're critical in establishing the police department. [4:19:18, 4:19:27]: Is any of them able to just hold off at least for a month so we get a grant writer or someone to I'm just asking. [4:19:29, 4:19:40]: Yeah, I think it would take longer than a a month to even by the time that we procured a grant writer and we got this to be able to secure grants and enough time for that. The good thing is is I wanted to mention that that [4:19:40, 4:19:50]: In the upcoming year, the current administration anticipates a a a a large sum, multi millions dollars in funding uh through the Edward Byrne Memorial Justice Assistance Grant. [4:19:50, 4:20:09]: Where we will hopefully be able to hire officers, we'll be able to purchase equipment. And so we obviously would want to get somebody to focus on those things right away. Uh there will be a lot of future opportunities that we can use to offset police department expenses. Uh, but I think that that based on the time restraints we have right now, that wouldn't be a feasible option. [4:20:10, 4:20:11]: Thank you, sir. [4:20:12, 4:20:19]: Go ahead, tree uh chief, with your explanation about the uh your explanation about these uh remote control spotlights needed. [4:20:22, 4:20:23]: So uh [4:20:23, 4:20:31]: Commander Godfrey, I'll take this one and I'll leave the next one to you, sir. So essentially what happens is you all know we were able to source some vehicles. [4:20:31, 4:20:38]: uh that put us in a good position to be able to acquire vehicles in the time needed uh for police department rollout. [4:20:38, 4:20:42]: Now one of the things we did not notice until after we had procured the vehicles. [4:20:43, 4:20:47]: You see the the manufacturer goes in and selects the equipment on those vehicles. [4:20:47, 4:20:52]: So certain equipment specifications have been selected on those vehicles. [4:20:52, 4:20:57]: Uh before we weighed in on that, these vehicles had been manufactured without spotlights. [4:20:57, 4:21:16]: Uh as you know, spotlights are essential piece of equipment, especially on a patrol vehicle. So we're in a situation now where we have to uh retrofit those vehicles with the spotlights. We did not um we did not know that at the beginning, but essentially what that comes down to is the cost of retrofitting uh the 42 patrol vehicles. [4:21:17, 4:21:22]: With spotlights to include labor is thirty seven thousand five hundred and eighty nine dollars and twenty six cents. [4:21:23, 4:21:25]: Uh so we're seeking uh [4:21:25, 4:21:26]: Council approval. [4:21:27, 4:21:31]: for that purchase to be able to equip those patrol vehicles with the spotlights. [4:21:32, 4:21:37]: Okay. Uh yeah, there's a uh this loud and communication is still up. Do you still need that up, sir? [4:21:40, 4:21:42]: Commander Godfrey, can you cue the next quote there, sir? [4:21:43, 4:21:43]: Yeah. [4:21:44, 4:21:48]: Thank you. Any questions for um Chief Tremor about the spotlights? [4:21:55, 4:22:00]: Okay, thank you, sir. Any questions, concern? And if not, I need a motion to accept the proposal. [4:22:02, 4:22:05]: Mayor board, I'm I move to approve. [4:22:05, 4:22:07]: Okay, thank you. Is there a second? [4:22:07, 4:22:12]: Ms. Barber seconds that any further discussion? And if not, all in favor, please indicate. [4:22:14, 4:22:16]: Okay, and Mr. Blount. [4:22:16, 4:22:17]: Your vote, sir. [4:22:19, 4:22:23]: All right, uh three of it it passes three zero. [4:22:24, 4:22:37]: Okay. And uh on that note, uh, we got uh the next thing would be council consideration for the 56 tasers, if I have the number right. Um and uh is that you chief that's gonna uh talk about that? [4:22:37, 4:22:40]: Commander Godfrey has this. Go ahead, sir. Okay. Appreciate it. [4:22:42, 4:22:45]: You bear with me just one minute. I'm trying to uh [4:22:46, 4:22:49]: Locate the uh updated taser quote. [4:22:49, 4:22:50]: Okay. [4:22:52, 4:23:08]: And I will say I appreciate you all adding this to the agenda. Uh we just recently got the quote from the uh vendor. And uh the reason we wanted to add this is because the price goes up by 10.7% for 2022. So we wanted to take advantage of this year's pricing. It's gonna save us about$37,000. [4:23:10, 4:23:12]: Okay, great. Appreciate that. [4:23:30, 4:23:31]: Okay. [4:23:31, 4:23:33]: Okay, so before you is the uh [4:23:33, 4:23:35]: Quote for um [4:23:36, 4:23:38]: The Tasers that the chief just spoke about. [4:23:39, 4:23:47]: Uh it is for a a total of 50. Uh I'm sorry, that's a body camera. Excuse me, just wanna [4:24:05, 4:24:08]: You can see your documents in your recent is the third. [4:24:09, 4:24:12]: The third document in your file. [4:24:13, 4:24:16]: It says Stockbridge Police Department Taser seven quote. [4:24:16, 4:24:18]: Is that what you're trying to show us? [4:24:19, 4:24:21]: Yes, ma'am, I'm trying to get back to that one. [4:24:28, 4:24:34]: Commander Godfrey, if you can't get it pulled up, I can I can pull it up here. I've got it queued on my end if you're having a hard time finding it. [4:24:35, 4:24:37]: Yes, sir, it's not pulling up for some reason. [4:24:37, 4:24:41]: Okay, so why don't you stop sharing your screen and I'll pull this up. Okay. [4:24:53, 4:24:54]: Did it stop? [4:24:54, 4:24:56]: No. No, your screen's still low. Okay. [4:25:09, 4:25:11]: It's not releasing for some reason. [4:25:32, 4:25:34]: Are there okay, there we go. [4:25:34, 4:25:36]: There we go. All right. [4:25:38, 4:25:40]: Let me see here. Council, can you see my screen? [4:25:41, 4:25:42]: Yes, we can, sir. [4:25:42, 4:25:47]: Okay. So I'll go down here and this is the correct uh this is the correct quote. [4:25:52, 4:25:57]: Can you zoom into that? I can't read that. Please. [4:26:00, 4:26:01]: Thank you. [4:26:05, 4:26:07]: Who who wants to explain this, please? [4:26:08, 4:26:11]: Chief, can you go down a little uh next page, please? [4:26:14, 4:26:34]: So this is for 56 um taser X7s, which is the latest uh taser uh that has been released by Axon. Uh if you don't know, uh Taser is a uh less lethal option. Um what this device is is to do is when deployed, is just [4:26:33, 4:26:53]: Just simply incapacitate the individual without causing permanent harm. This is a situation where we've all seen the negativity associated with tasers over the years. But one of the criteria that we're being [4:26:53, 4:26:59]: that we're going to implement is number one, uh the taser color itself is going to be yellow. [4:26:59, 4:27:19]: Uh other departments have utilized a black and color uh taser, which unfortunately mirrors uh the same as a as a sidearm. It is also going to be required under policy to be a cross-draw. So in other words, if the officer's firearm is carried on the right side, uh he or she will be a force to do a cross draw. [4:27:19, 4:27:34]: in front of them and to the opposite side of the body to draw the taser. That becomes part of muscle memory and that forces them to be mindful of what they're drawing based on the circumstances provided. [4:27:34, 4:27:53]: Uh but again, this is also a five-year uh comprehensive term contract. Uh these tasers are under a complete warranty during that five-year period. Uh we are also uh that also comes with all the holsters associated to carry the the uh tasers within there. [4:27:54, 4:28:14]: Uh it comes with um cartridges, uh life cartridges, as well as training cartridges. Uh it is provided a training suit, which is referred to as the HALT suit, as well as rugged uh targets and target frames uh for practice and annual qualifications for that. It also includes five instructions. [4:28:14, 4:28:24]: instructor uh vouchers so that we can have personnel put through uh their instructor training class so that they can come back and train our own personnel. [4:28:28, 4:28:29]: Get on to the next page, sir. [4:28:36, 4:28:36]: Mm. [4:28:40, 4:28:54]: So with this new technology, what the cartridge is allowed to do is you can allow two separate cartridges to be carried within the device. So let's say you have two assailants. So you're able to deploy uh [4:28:54, 4:28:58]: the cartridge or the the prongs into one assailant. [4:28:58, 4:29:00]: And also into a separate assailant. [4:29:01, 4:29:18]: So you also have the capability of carrying long range and short range uh cartridges. So let's say you have one person that's six feet away, you will be able to deploy uh the short range cartridge and you may have another seal up that's 12 feet away. [4:29:18, 4:29:36]: So these are indicated by different color lights. When you turn the taser on, one is in red color and one is in green color to identify uh the differences of of the cartridges so that the officer knows through muscle memory and training of which one he or she is deploying. [4:29:42, 4:30:02]: Uh this system also includes docking stations. So the you'll be able to walk in and and and maintain uh fresh batteries uh for the tasers. Uh we'll be able to download so as a uh taser is deployed as part of the internal investigation for use of force we'll [4:30:02, 4:30:12]: be able to download that information into evidence.com to ensure the effectiveness of the taser and to make sure that the officer is within compliance of departmental policy. [4:30:18, 4:30:19]: You could get answer. [4:30:22, 4:30:25]: The rest of this is just a breakdown of the um [4:30:26, 4:30:29]: a breakdown of the pricing and I'm gonna have to flip the screen here for you, but [4:30:30, 4:30:31]: It just has the um [4:30:31, 4:30:33]: The cost, the total cost. [4:30:36, 4:30:38]: What is the funding source of this? [4:30:39, 4:30:39]: ARPA. [4:30:47, 4:30:50]: Okay, uh is that is it you're completed with your presentation? [4:30:53, 4:30:53]: Yes, sir. [4:30:53, 4:30:58]: Okay. Any questions, counsel you have for Commander Goffrey or Chief Tremor? [4:31:00, 4:31:02]: Any questions? Well go ahead, please. [4:31:02, 4:31:07]: Do you have a question? So this is a five year agreement, did you say? [4:31:08, 4:31:08]: Yes, ma'am. [4:31:10, 4:31:10]: Okay. [4:31:11, 4:31:15]: We're we're we're paying it up front. We're not we're not you you can [4:31:16, 4:31:18]: This is broken down to show if you were to you were to [4:31:18, 4:31:27]: uh enter into a a five year payment plan. And uh what we would like to do is just pay this up front because we would be responsible then. [4:31:27, 4:31:35]: for putting within our budget, you know, thirty-five thousand dollars a year um to to fund this. So we'd just rather pay for it up front for the five years. [4:31:36, 4:31:37]: Um [4:31:38, 4:31:41]: And it's thirty five thousand dollars per year. [4:31:41, 4:31:42]: Mm-hmm. [4:31:48, 4:31:49]: So we just approved the budget. [4:31:50, 4:31:52]: For twenty twenty two. [4:31:54, 4:31:55]: D this is Arbor Funds, I thought. [4:31:56, 4:31:56]: Oh. [4:31:56, 4:31:57]: It is. [4:31:57, 4:31:59]: Gotcha. Thank you. Thank you. [4:32:00, 4:32:00]: Um [4:32:05, 4:32:09]: Is this also another state funded or state piggyback contract? [4:32:09, 4:32:13]: Yes, ma'am, because this is a product of axon. [4:32:13, 4:32:16]: It all falls under the umbrella of the under the state contract. [4:32:16, 4:32:17]: Thank you. [4:32:19, 4:32:28]: And for and furthermore, there's a sole source that accompanies this as well. This is proprietary technology, nobody else has it, so we can't acquire it from any place else. Right. Thank you for that too. [4:32:29, 4:32:29]: Yeah. [4:32:30, 4:32:31]: Any other questions, Council? [4:32:34, 4:32:37]: If no other questions, I need a motion to accept this proposal, please. [4:32:40, 4:32:41]: Is there a motion? [4:32:42, 4:32:42]: Promo. [4:32:43, 4:32:45]: Is there a second? Mr. Alzheimer's, is there a second? [4:32:47, 4:32:49]: Miss Barber seconds the motion. [4:32:50, 4:32:51]: All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [4:32:52, 4:32:52]: Yeah. [4:32:52, 4:32:55]: Mayor Ford, I do have one more question. [4:32:55, 4:32:57]: Okay, okay. What's your question, please? [4:32:59, 4:33:00]: The total cost is [4:33:00, 4:33:01]: The [4:33:01, 4:33:04]: One hundred and seventy six thousand one ninety eight. [4:33:04, 4:33:05]: Thirty nine, correct. [4:33:06, 4:33:06]: Thank you. [4:33:07, 4:33:08]: Okay. [4:33:08, 4:33:13]: I'm ready to vote. Are any other questions? And if not, all in favor of motion, please indicate. [4:33:15, 4:33:30]: Okay. Okay. Uh okay, I have the three. It passes with three. And uh Mr. Blount did not uh vote on that one as well. Okay, thank you for that. And I'm sorry. [4:33:31, 4:33:34]: I'll I'll in the next one actually is uh dealing with um [4:33:35, 4:33:38]: Funding, ARPA funding for the employees in in reference to um [4:33:39, 4:33:50]: the employees and uh some type of pay incentive which was actually brought forward uh earlier uh today by uh mr Blount. Um mr. Blount are you available? [4:33:55, 4:34:13]: All right, uh Okay, Council, what are your desires here? You uh we we brought this forward for discussion purposes. Yes, to okay, you want to take charge of this mayorpotin? What do I what do you want to say, sir? Yeah, I think this is a very worth I'm sorry, I'm back in here. I'm sorry. Forget it. Okay. Hi Ms. Blount. [4:34:14, 4:34:14]: That's great. [4:34:15, 4:34:21]: We're we're talk we're talking in reference to the item you brought forward about additional funding, upper funding for the employees. [4:34:23, 4:34:25]: You wanted to just have lead this discussion? [4:34:30, 4:34:34]: Mayor Ford, would you ask um Commander Godfrey to remove his document? [4:34:35, 4:34:36]: Yep, he heard you. Um [4:34:37, 4:34:41]: Actually I thought uh was that the chief chief that was you did okay, thank you. There you go. [4:34:43, 4:34:44]: There's a Blount. [4:34:45, 4:34:45]: Yes, sir. [4:34:46, 4:34:48]: Yeah, I'm sorry, forgive me, may I [4:34:48, 4:34:53]: was in the middle of something real. Yeah, the the I've seen uh several cities and um [4:34:53, 4:35:01]: And I talked to several council members of different cities, and uh and as you all have probably seen in the news that they [4:35:01, 4:35:04]: With the uh discussions going on with the county. [4:35:05, 4:35:09]: I think that with what's going on with uh this pandemic and the [4:35:10, 4:35:11]: Hardships, a lot of the um [4:35:13, 4:35:24]: uh citizens the stop bridge is taken. I think that one of the steps that we could show our employees is that uh we can give an incentive. Uh some of the cities are given incentives for vaccinations, but [4:35:25, 4:35:32]: When you talk about uh five hundred dollars a sending from opera funds to those uh to the employees for however the council deems to do it. [4:35:33, 4:35:53]: uh and 250 for uh part-time employees, however we deem to do it, uh it's it's it becomes a fraction of a portion of what we're getting in APA funds. And I think it gives it sings a signal to those uh uh all of our employees to not only get vaccinated but you know to stand with the city as we [4:35:53, 4:36:01]: We stay with them throughout all this that that that they're endured. I know the gas prices are high. Uh we're right here at the holiday season. I just think uh [4:36:01, 4:36:10]: a lot of expenses that that they incurred have ha are incurred and I and I agree with uh Mr. Alexander that we was uh blessed to to not have to lay anybody off. [4:36:11, 4:36:16]: City of Stockbury has really been blessed in those areas and I just thought that this would be something that we could. [4:36:16, 4:36:29]: Knowing that that we're getting over$11 million in and my understanding that we have a uh we're applying for even more funding is that this would be just a small portion to us uh to our employees would be which would be less than uh [4:36:30, 4:36:33]: Fifty thousand less than fifty thousand dollars because we uh [4:36:33, 4:36:41]: Uh only have about eighty something uh employees in the total. So I just something I just want to uh kind of go over with the uh c my colleagues and see what they thought about it. [4:36:42, 4:36:47]: All right. Well uh actually Councilman Barber raised her hand initially. Now you have some comments, ma'am? [4:36:50, 4:36:55]: Yes, I do support um tasking um [4:36:55, 4:36:58]: Staff with doing the research on [4:36:58, 4:37:04]: um offering an incentive for uh vaccinations or booster shots. [4:37:04, 4:37:12]: ARPA funda it ARPA funding is specific. Um the parameters in which we can use it. [4:37:13, 4:37:19]: specific. So I'm not sure that funding source um will cover um [4:37:20, 4:37:26]: Cost of living increase as Councilman Blount mentioned, but certainly we can use it. [4:37:26, 4:37:27]: To [4:37:27, 4:37:28]: Um [4:37:28, 4:37:31]: kind of encourage staff to [4:37:31, 4:37:33]: of being vaccinated. [4:37:33, 4:37:35]: And get their boosters. [4:37:36, 4:37:36]: So that's the question. [4:37:37, 4:37:39]: Will you throw Cafe on Bob? [4:37:39, 4:37:43]: And and in the correction, I'm not saying to cover cost of living. It would just be an ex [4:37:44, 4:37:47]: I'm not finished. Will you finish? No, I'm not finished. I'm sorry, forgive me. [4:37:47, 4:37:48]: Thank you. [4:37:48, 4:37:53]: Um so I wanted to ask Tess the attorney's names Wheeler. [4:37:53, 4:38:00]: Um, we're doing the research around the use of ARPA and how we can implement um [4:38:02, 4:38:14]: what is necessary to promote vaccination with our employees for those that um have not been vaccinated, an incentive that we can offer using ARPA funding. [4:38:14, 4:38:15]: Um but for [4:38:16, 4:38:17]: Those who [4:38:17, 4:38:23]: have no intentions of getting uh vaccinated and don't want to get vaccinated for whatever reason. [4:38:23, 4:38:29]: Um, that's fine, but to give a cost of living increase, we would have to use general fund for that. [4:38:29, 4:38:30]: Um we can't [4:38:31, 4:38:34]: Unless they are essential. [4:38:34, 4:38:40]: employees but a cost of living increase we'd have to use general fund. I just [4:38:40, 4:38:55]: I want us to be clear on how we're using this and that it is legal. So if Attorney Berry and Attorney Washington can speak to the guidelines surrounding the use of ARPA funding, I appreciate it. [4:38:56, 4:38:56]: Yeah. [4:38:56, 4:39:02]: But I w I want to be clear on what what what I'm talking about though. I'm not talking [4:39:02, 4:39:05]: Cost of living has nothing to do with this. [4:39:05, 4:39:07]: So I just want to make that clear with the [4:39:07, 4:39:27]: The the the increased cost of living that we increase that we've been given has nothing to do with this incentive that we're giving our employees. Uh it has nothing to do with that. And when I talk to um people from other cities that are doing this, uh it seems to be successful, it seems to boost the morale in the city uh among [4:39:27, 4:39:45]: the uh staffs and and and it just it just it becomes something that we can give and if if the city uh attorneys say something differently then then so be it but i'm seeing it being done in other cities in fact uh it's it's the discrepancy even today was on the news [4:39:45, 4:39:59]: uh whether they're gonna give it to all the employees or some of the employees, even with the county today. Uh they uh I don't know if you guys saw that today on the news that was out there, uh, but but I just think it's a good something good for us to do for the for the uh employees. [4:39:59, 4:40:05]: Thank you. Um Mr. Washington, you were unmuted there for a brief moment. Do you have a comment to this, sir? [4:40:07, 4:40:11]: No, sir, Your Honor, we would just need to research this and write a member of the council about it. [4:40:12, 4:40:14]: Okay. Deborah Tem go ahead, please. [4:40:15, 4:40:30]: Yeah, I'm certainly in support of doing uh something uh for the employees uh with the funding that has come in with the city. But again, you know, we've done something. We haven't laid off anybody, we maintain uh a full staff. [4:40:31, 4:40:33]: Uh, we uh provided [4:40:33, 4:40:37]: Uh some um you know, making sure that folks are making [4:40:37, 4:40:42]: And we passed fifteen dollars an hour to move to make sure that everybody was had a livable wage. [4:40:42, 4:40:45]: I just wanna make sure two things that um [4:40:45, 4:40:47]: The attorneys are test with [4:40:47, 4:40:50]: Of course, I'm certainly gonna be supportive of [4:40:51, 4:40:59]: and a a a a a leveled approach. If we decide it's legal to give a um [4:41:00, 4:41:12]: a bonus or a uh increase or this uh one-time payment to employees there should be levels. Someone's that sought to get vaccinated. [4:41:12, 4:41:16]: should get a a a higher or different amount. [4:41:16, 4:41:20]: because they've done, they've taken the additional step. [4:41:20, 4:41:21]: In order to [4:41:21, 4:41:26]: uh protect themselves against the virus. Even there may be three tiers, two. [4:41:27, 4:41:28]: If somebody [4:41:28, 4:41:30]: Is fully vaccinated. [4:41:30, 4:41:34]: Somebody is fully vaccinated with a booster. [4:41:34, 4:41:45]: or somebody is vaccinated or somebody is not vaccinated at all. There should be different tiers to that because again, the level what we're looking at right now is [4:41:45, 4:41:49]: The definition of fully vaccinated is going to change. [4:41:49, 4:42:00]: Because if you haven't got your booster in a few months, you're not gonna be fully vaccinated anymore when the CDC changes the guideline. So to me, I like to see that tiered approach. [4:42:01, 4:42:06]: To where we have uh three tiers. The the top the the top tier is [4:42:07, 4:42:11]: A fully vaccinated boosted. The second steer is [4:42:11, 4:42:19]: You know, you got your two shots or your one shot. And then the third tier is no, you're not vaccinated at all, if that's uh possible. Because [4:42:20, 4:42:26]: You know, I think it's everybody endured and well somebody for religious reasons did not get [4:42:27, 4:42:28]: The vaccine. [4:42:29, 4:42:30]: And they then [4:42:30, 4:42:32]: Did wear a mask. [4:42:32, 4:42:33]: To protect themselves. [4:42:34, 4:42:36]: Or they did go through regular testing. [4:42:36, 4:42:38]: And they took precautions. [4:42:38, 4:42:40]: Then that's worthy of something. [4:42:40, 4:42:43]: Not a zero. So I'm okay with. [4:42:43, 4:42:48]: a tiered approach to that. And I think I would like for the attorneys to look at that and to see what [4:42:49, 4:42:51]: uh uh uh other cities around us are doing. [4:42:53, 4:42:54]: Okay, Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [4:42:57, 4:43:17]: Man, I think uh Mr. Alexander, I mean, that's a good point. And that was a part of my thinking also that we we do something for every employee across the board. Uh, because I think that when we put in uh safety guidelines, I think everybody was adhering to them. Uh and and so to promote, not only to promote this uh uh [4:43:17, 4:43:36]: that we're with our employees, but I I I'm I'm for uh uh I don't know three tier or two-tier vaccinated, not vaccinated, uh approach or but but uh I'm a I'm just uh for whatever we decide to do. I just think that it you know whatever we do, we just need to do something at this point. And I think it will be a uh [4:43:37, 4:43:38]: Um [4:43:39, 4:43:59]: you know, it will be a good incentive for us to do this at this time with the h posit the position we are in with these uh upper funds. Uh if the attorney see the attorneys can look at several cities, I think that uh uh not McDonald's I know that uh Douglasville is doing it. Um I think s uh I think Sandy Spring [4:43:59, 4:44:18]: are doing several cities are doing it. And when I looked it up, and but I've gotten a call from from a couple of cities and they told me about the other cities also. So uh however we're gonna do it, I'm I'm I'm I'm fine with the tiers or however we do it. I just think that we need to, you know, it's something that we uh we should be doing as a as a whole. [4:44:19, 4:44:21]: Ms. Barber, you have another comment, please? [4:44:23, 4:44:30]: really really quick um I like for the attorney to really look into the discrimination um [4:44:30, 4:44:35]: part of this because we don't want those who for whatever reason [4:44:35, 4:44:37]: don't want to be vaccinated. [4:44:38, 4:44:38]: Um [4:44:39, 4:44:40]: Now [4:44:42, 4:45:01]: Now you're discriminating against them. They may feel as though they're entitled to the same amount as everyone else. So I really want the attorneys to speak to that aspect of it. Of course, we want to avoid as many lawsuits as possible, um, just so that we understand, so that I understand. [4:45:02, 4:45:02]: That [4:45:03, 4:45:04]: There are no potential. [4:45:05, 4:45:10]: uh with discrimination when we do this tier approach. That's all. But I support it. I do. [4:45:11, 4:45:27]: Yep, Mayor, one of the things one of the things I was told is that this uh with the approach that uh one of those kind of came up similar to what Mr. Alexander was saying. And what they were saying is that this is no different than incentive that insurance comes to give those that [4:45:28, 4:45:45]: that would get vaccinated, they you know, you save on insurance. There's always reward for people taking an extra step for precautions. Always an award uh re award for that. And it doesn't alleviate the others. It only gives incentive to those that are took taking that extra step. [4:45:46, 4:45:56]: These are funds that's being used. Um, ARPA funds is what you're proposing that we use. So the guidelines are a bit different than they would be for [4:45:57, 4:46:00]: a healthcare provider of some sort. [4:46:01, 4:46:02]: We'll go ahead and [4:46:02, 4:46:08]: And uh in in regards to that line of speaking that Mr. Blount was referring to. [4:46:09, 4:46:17]: That's something that Miss Wheeler needs to bring back to us and uh we need to discuss as a council is [4:46:17, 4:46:21]: Is the how is the insur how are the insurers looking at that? [4:46:22, 4:46:42]: If an employee is fully vaccinated or his employee is not fully vaccinated. Is there a difference in our cost? Because we as a council have absorbed the cost where many employers have not, we have absorbed the cost year after year after year at at our at the city's expense. [4:46:42, 4:47:01]: So uh we need to look at is the insurance company gonna be passing on to us the cost of employees not getting vaccinated? So maybe Ms. Wheeler might be able to bring that information back to us and to see what that looks like and that might help us in making this decision as well. [4:47:01, 4:47:06]: On that note, Miss Willard, is there anything you can add at this point or is there additional research you have to do? [4:47:13, 4:47:14]: Miss Wheeler? [4:47:18, 4:47:30]: All right. So otherwise uh we're looking for uh Mr. Blount, are you looking for a motion? Are you too for we had discussion? Uh the attorneys obviously have heard all this, uh so I mean they can do the additional research, but uh uh how do how do you want to proceed with this? [4:47:32, 4:47:52]: Well, I think at this point, Mayor, uh the um we we've done it as a discussion. So until until we get uh some information back as soon as we can, I just want to know if if we can make a decision through a consensus on uh through email if we have to, or do we have to come before the council to make [4:47:52, 4:48:02]: those this do we have to come and make a vote of it out front? Uh uh either um Mr. Washington, could we do a consensus on on those expenditures through email? [4:48:05, 4:48:07]: I would think that it would need to be a boat take you. [4:48:08, 4:48:16]: Well then I know we gotta never gotta be specific to the there gotta be specifics of the policy that you want on the executive side to be implemented. [4:48:18, 4:48:32]: Okay, well if if my initial if my initial vote was about if my initial vote was five hundred dollars, two fifty for uh the unvaccinated em uh employees and and seven for uh the uh boosters. [4:48:32, 4:48:36]: Uh is that on the level that any of any of my colleagues was thinking of? [4:48:39, 4:48:40]: Any comments on that? [4:48:40, 4:48:41]: Mm-hmm. [4:48:41, 4:48:42]: Yes, sir. [4:48:42, 4:48:44]: Let's just do the research. [4:48:45, 4:48:54]: Let's do the research as we've discussed. Okay. That's why I asked the question. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just saying I'm just my I muted myself by mistake. Go ahead. Okay. [4:48:54, 4:49:06]: Yeah, so I'm I'm that's why I was thinking that the the the attorneys have heard this are thinking about doing some research and then come back with some information and then make a dis a final decision based on the research and make sure that we're legal across the board and what we want to implement. [4:49:06, 4:49:25]: Yeah, I'm I'm I'm fine with that. I'm fine. Yeah. I think we have a this a simple uh general consensus on that aspect. So um our attorneys have heard that and uh in this aspect. So uh I would imagine that uh maybe within the next thirty days or less you'll be able to give us some input on that. Is that proper? [4:49:26, 4:49:29]: That's what I was just trying to determine. So within the thirty days. Okay. Yes, yes, sir. [4:49:30, 4:49:30]: Yes, sir. [4:49:31, 4:49:31]: Okay. [4:49:32, 4:49:39]: On that note, uh I will go to uh my comments. And since we were talking about incentives and talking about uh [4:49:39, 4:49:41]: Yes, sir. Yes, sir. [4:49:41, 4:49:44]: Can we I don't think we need thirty days for that. [4:49:44, 4:49:46]: Can we have it by the next next meeting? [4:49:47, 4:49:55]: I mean, I we don't need 30 days. Well, in all actuality, our next meeting, well, here's the thing: our next meeting uh won't be until 10 January unless something special happens. [4:49:57, 4:50:07]: That's that's our next meeting. This is the last meeting of the of the calendar year. Well, I will talk about something in just a bit in my comments that's going to cause a special call meeting, but uh but a special call meetings for a specific purpose. [4:50:07, 4:50:15]: Yeah, but I don't think we need thirty days to find to find our weekend. Okay, but but our n but our next next meeting is not to January tenth, sir. [4:50:17, 4:50:27]: Oh okay. Well that's less than thirty days what I'm saying. Well, okay. It's it's okay, it's okay, good point. It's uh say three weeks. I guess in sense when you look at that. Three weeks, all right. [4:50:27, 4:50:43]: So comments, we're talking about uh the the uh public health type issues here, and as you well well know, Omicron, this virus, is starting to take charge and uh do damage over the delta. It's it's more prominent now. And uh in a conversation that uh [4:50:43, 4:50:45]: The public the uh Piemont Henry. [4:50:46, 4:50:52]: has had uh Dr. Henson there, the Pima Henry is getting ready for what they call the fifth surge. [4:50:53, 4:50:57]: And uh other people have talked about in the media discussing about another surge. [4:50:57, 4:51:00]: And Omicron is proven to be that that part of the third. So [4:51:01, 4:51:05]: We're in the Christmas season, gonna come to New Year's and swing around to the new calendar year. [4:51:05, 4:51:25]: So we got to prepare for this. And I will tell you, ladies and gentlemen, I I today, along with my spouse, got my booster shot for Mederma. And it it it I'll tell you what, it didn't hurt. It was quick, simple. I feel fine. I've been in this meeting all evening. I feel fine. So what it amounts to is that you need to get your vaccination, you need to get your booster shot. If you [4:51:25, 4:51:30]: haven't been tested to get tested and then get a shot at the vaccination anyway. That's the only way we're gonna beat this. [4:51:31, 4:51:51]: Omicron is coming. OMA not coming. Omicron is here. So and so otherwise it's gonna dictate how we go forward with our next calendar year in reference to how we we deal with ourselves, with our meetings, with our social events, uh, with our city activities, things of that nature. So we just gotta be properly prepared. And I'm gonna hope that the entire council and the staff that's here. [4:51:50, 4:51:58]: Among me right now, have had your vaccinations, have your boosters, please get it. And for citizens out there, you need to do that. [4:51:58, 4:52:01]: C D C guidance says sixteen age or up [4:52:01, 4:52:08]: You are qualifier for a booster, free of charge. I want the public today free of charge to do this. Set an appointment and go. [4:52:08, 4:52:28]: All right, public health department and Madonna. Uh you can set an appointment and they'll give you Madurma, a Pfizer, shots, and booster to Public Health Department as well. It's 135 Henry Parkway. And that number is 470-661-0005. Once again, 470-661-0005. [4:52:28, 4:52:28]: Five. [4:52:30, 4:52:35]: COVID nineteen testing on a continued basis, Monday through Friday, nine AM to three PM. [4:52:35, 4:52:49]: Red Hawk Field at 143 Henry Parkway. All right. They're Monday to Friday, 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. Free of Charge, go get tested. And then once you get tested and you get the results of that, if it's negative, obviously go get vaccinated and get your booster. [4:52:50, 4:53:10]: Uh the public health department uh once again at 135 Henry Parkway has walk-ins actually, a walk-in basis from 9 to 1130 andor 1 to 230 during the course of the week. Uh offices is closed at 5 p.m. and are open five days a week. Once again, that number is 470-661-000. [4:53:09, 4:53:11]: zero five. [4:53:11, 4:53:15]: And uh to go to public health department to and get a vaccination there. [4:53:15, 4:53:35]: Um and of course you can what the what they're told now you can cross over from a derma and pfizer for the boosters only. Mederma and Pfizer. If you had a Mederma um or Pfizer vaccination and you want to get a boot when you get a booster, you can take each other's boosters. So you can cross over once you get the full vaccination from a derma or pfizer. [4:53:35, 4:53:36]: Take the other booster. [4:53:36, 4:53:38]: That'll be helpful. It is you can still do it. [4:53:39, 4:53:51]: And because once you start a particular series on a Pfizer phase one and two, you've got to come, you gotta complete it. Moderma phase one and two, gotta complete it. And then you can take a different booster as well. You can legally do that. [4:53:52, 4:54:02]: Okay, five years uh individuals are five years old or older can take the vaccination, either moderma or phi uh pfizer. So kids five years or older. [4:54:02, 4:54:08]: can take the vaccination if of Mederma and Pfizer. So please do so. The young folks need to they need the young folks around. We need them well. [4:54:09, 4:54:12]: If you are ages five to fifteen. [4:54:12, 4:54:32]: And you can't take the booster, uh you can't take the booster until it's approved by CDC and the CDC has not uh approved the booster for ages five to fifteen. You can take the vaccination, but you can't take the booster uh uh yet if you're from five age five to fifteen. Okay, but if you're course a sixteen-year-old, you can't take the booster necessary. [4:54:32, 4:54:52]: So you always got to make sure that you go and you have the right permission from your doctors and your and to take all these proper shots in this aspect. Another good news story, kind of mentioned earlier tonight that uh we have we have selected, well, let's put it this way: we have the sole finalist, Frederick Gardner. Uh the [4:54:52, 4:55:00]: Be our next city manager. And uh, we have to wait 14 days before we have an official meeting to officially appoint him by a vote publicly. [4:55:01, 4:55:09]: And so that 14-day period started on Saturday. The actual 14-day period by law, by Georgia law, ends believing on the 31st of this year. [4:55:09, 4:55:29]: So sometime, uh Mr. Blount, regular meetings on January 10th, but sometime here before that regular meeting, we will have to have a special call meeting to formally appoint the next city manager, okay, after the 14-day period by virtue of law. So we look forward to that. We'll have to figure out when that day will be and that aspect. And um [4:55:29, 4:55:35]: On that note, I am going to go into the upcoming meetings and announcements. [4:55:35, 4:55:55]: City Council meeting uh and swearing in for in the ceremony. For the ceremony, the second Monday of each month is our next city council meeting. So the swearing in ceremony for myself and uh councilman Thomas and Councilwoman um uh Gantt will be January 10th. Location to be determined. So we have to figure that out based on what's going on in our environment. [4:55:55, 4:55:55]: [17756.1, 17771.4]: New Council meeting, 5.30 p.m., second Wednesday of each month in Levi Meeting Room and City Hall for January, says January 12th on that date. The Main Street Advisory Board meeting second Friday of each month, 9 a.m. by way of Zoom, January 14th. [4:56:12, 4:56:32]: New Council Advisory Committee meeting, 6 30 p.m., third Tuesday of each month. Patrick Harry Meeting Room in the City Hall on January 18th. Downtown Development Authority, 6 p.m. by way of Zoom. Their next meeting, third Tuesday of each month on January 18th. City Council work session meeting last Tuesday of each month. And this time it's going to be January 25th. [4:56:31, 4:56:49]: because we go to Cities United on the 21st to the 24th of January. And so our work session will be on January 25th. The planning commission meeting fourth Tuesday each month at 630 by way of Zoom. And that's be February 24th. [4:56:50, 4:57:10]: Uh please join Councilman Councilwoman Barber at the Eagles Land Dance Center for free Zuma Saturdays at 8 a.m. Uh at 625 Red Oak Road in Stockbridge. And then uh I have here a note says a continuous salute to veterans. Please forward your pictures of veterans, including name, brant, branch, and [4:57:10, 4:57:30]: rank and years of service to Councilman Thomas in this aspect. You present uh now I'm I'm assuming this is still ongoing, Mr. Thomas, that uh you want to have that uh continued information about the veterans to honor them. Okay, good deal. So so veterans or individuals that support veterans submit everything to uh Z Pearson at City of [4:57:29, 4:57:49]: That's Miss Uh Zenobia Pearson will receive that. And uh and actually I have the the my monthly Meet the Mayor, the voice your questions and concerns is Tuesday, uh January 25th, will be the next time we do that, 10 a.m. to noon. And you will call Ms. Zenovia Pearson to [4:57:49, 4:57:55]: set an appointment schedule appointment for that day is 770-389-7900. [4:57:55, 4:57:56]: Extension two forty eight. [4:57:57, 4:58:02]: And I want to say to everybody, to the council, to the citizens, to the staff, Merry Christmas, happy holidays. [4:58:02, 4:58:07]: Uh happy Cozana uh uh Kozwana. I can't even pronounce it right, shame on me. [4:58:07, 4:58:08]: Yeah, yeah. [4:58:08, 4:58:09]: Excuse me. [4:58:10, 4:58:11]: Hanukkah. [4:58:11, 4:58:27]: Hanukkah, Hanukkah too, absolutely. And happy new year. Uh Kozan uh Kowana. Kwanzaa. Kwanza, excuse me. I should know that. Kwanza. And okay, anyway. Uh in that aspect. And if my understanding, uh [4:58:28, 4:58:36]: That we actually have an executive session. If we when you get in a execut session, the attorneys have something they need to discuss with us. If we if we want to go in a executive session, I need a motion to do so. [4:58:38, 4:58:40]: Is there a motion to go to the second session? [4:58:40, 4:58:41]: We're looking [4:58:42, 4:58:43]: So is there [4:58:44, 4:58:45]: I'll ask the attorneys. [4:58:46, 4:58:49]: Is there anything that the council needs to consider in executive session? [4:58:52, 4:58:54]: Yes. One quick matter. [4:58:55, 4:59:02]: Therefore, I make a motion to go into an executive session for personnel, litigation, and real estate matters. [4:59:02, 4:59:03]: Okay, zero second. [4:59:04, 4:59:05]: Clear. [4:59:05, 4:59:07]: All right. All in favor, please indicate. [4:59:09, 4:59:23]: Okay, we're going to zygo session. So I'm gonna need a separate link for everybody and to go to zygo session uh in this aspect. Okay. Can we take a short yes you take a short, you take a break and I'll see you by within 10 minutes. And so you'll see each other in 10 minutes. [4:59:25, 4:59:26]: Okay, thank you. [4:59:27, 4:59:30]: Please send those uh send those links, please. [5:00:18, 5:00:19]: Okay. [5:00:38, 5:00:39]: I'm sorry. [5:01:45, 5:01:46]: Okay, [5:05:11, 5:05:26]: Okay, Vanessa. Okay, you're back. I'm sorry, I was just trying to call you. I I hung up. So that's me hang probably hanging up on you. That was I for it. That was oh that was you. Okay. Then let me okay. I'm sorry. I thought that was her. All right. [5:05:48, 5:05:50]: Oh, there we go. There she's back. Okay. [5:05:50, 5:06:02]: All right, so we actually have a quorum. Okay. So uh what I like to do is I like to have a uh motion to uh end executive session. [5:06:06, 5:06:12]: Motion there. So move. Mr. Thomas, so no, so moves. Ms. Barber, second that. Okay. All in favor, please indicate. [5:06:13, 5:06:19]: All right. Okay, good. Now I need a motion to reconvene our uh city council work session. [5:06:19, 5:06:20]: Don't go. [5:06:20, 5:06:30]: Okay, m again, Mr. Thomas moved again. Mayor uh councilman uh councilwoman barber, second that. Okay. All right. All in favor, please indicate. [5:06:31, 5:06:31]: Uh [5:06:31, 5:06:36]: Okay. All right. Now now I need a motion to end our city council work session. [5:06:37, 5:06:39]: Don't move. All right, Mr. Thomas. [5:06:39, 5:06:48]: Oh Mayor Ford, do you need to acknowledge I'm sorry, excuse me, you're right. So sorry. We have nothing to report in reference to our executive sessions this time for the public. [5:06:49, 5:07:05]: Okay, Mr. Thomas, you made the motion. The second. Yes, ma'am. This yeah, I didn't have one thing. When I announced the planning commission meetings, I made the mistake of saying six o'clock. Their meetings are actually at 6 30. I just wanted to create. Okay. Document is correct. I just misspoke. [5:07:06, 5:07:11]: Okay, no problem. Things like that happen from time to time. All right. You're human. All righty. [5:07:11, 5:07:16]: I check it out. All right. Motion has been made by Mr. Thomas to end the end our meeting. Is there a second? [5:07:17, 5:07:20]: Second. Okay. Mayor Pro Tem second that all in favor, please indicate. [5:07:21, 5:07:24]: Aye. Okay, good deal. Let's see now. [5:07:25, 5:07:35]: in this aspect. Three of you. It's unanimous in that aspect. That's all we need. Ms. Washington, we're out of here. Good night, everybody. Good night. Good night. Merry Christmas, everybody. Merry Christmas. Happy Merry Christmas.

--- title: Planning Commission Meeting date: 2021-12-16 source: 2021-12-16_Planning_Commission_Meeting.wav --- [0:04:47, 0:04:48]: Good evening to all. [0:04:48, 0:04:49]: Hello. [0:04:51, 0:04:52]: Hello and good evening. [0:04:53, 0:04:54]: Hello. [0:04:54, 0:04:57]: Oh, wonder if you could hear me. Well, yes. [0:04:57, 0:04:58]: Pardon me? [0:04:58, 0:04:59]: Hello. [0:05:00, 0:05:01]: How are you, Linda? [0:05:01, 0:05:02]: Yeah, good evening. [0:05:03, 0:05:04]: Mr. Thibodeau. [0:05:05, 0:05:07]: Yes, sir. How can I help you? [0:05:08, 0:05:08]: Yeah. [0:05:09, 0:05:10]: Attend this meeting. [0:05:13, 0:05:14]: Ms. Nelson? [0:05:15, 0:05:17]: Hello, how are you? [0:05:20, 0:05:21]: Outstanding. [0:05:23, 0:05:26]: You ready for Christmas with your grandchildren? [0:05:27, 0:05:29]: Yeah, yeah, you're right. [0:05:30, 0:05:31]: All right. [0:05:35, 0:05:37]: They put in all kind of last minute requests. [0:05:41, 0:05:44]: You know, they say money's falling off tree, go back there and pick some money off. [0:05:44, 0:05:45]: Can get this. [0:05:46, 0:05:47]: Right. [0:05:51, 0:05:52]: Mm-hmm. [0:05:54, 0:05:55]: Yep. [0:05:56, 0:05:58]: My first year with a grandchild. So that'll be interesting. [0:05:59, 0:06:00]: Oh yeah. [0:06:02, 0:06:04]: This is my first year with a grandchild. [0:06:05, 0:06:08]: Oh, congratulations. Thank you. [0:06:09, 0:06:11]: Mr. Wells, glad to see you join us. [0:06:18, 0:06:20]: How old is your grandchild? [0:06:21, 0:06:23]: А лил овер с севмос. [0:06:24, 0:06:27]: Oh, okay. Good deal. Christmas baby. [0:06:29, 0:06:30]: Yeah, that's the easy. [0:06:35, 0:06:37]: See, Mr. Horns has joined us. [0:06:38, 0:06:39]: Yeah. [0:06:40, 0:06:42]: Yeah, I can hear you now. So I see you joined us. [0:06:42, 0:06:43]: Oh yeah. [0:06:46, 0:06:48]: So who are we missing? We missing Dumas. [0:06:56, 0:06:57]: Yeah. [0:06:59, 0:07:00]: Miss Becca. [0:07:16, 0:07:18]: So we got one, two, three. [0:07:20, 0:07:21]: Four and six. [0:07:32, 0:07:35]: Everybody get a chance to go over the new bylaws. [0:07:38, 0:07:39]: Yes. [0:07:43, 0:07:45]: Good evening, planning commissioners. [0:07:46, 0:07:47]: Good evening, Miss Johnson. [0:07:50, 0:07:51]: Hello. [0:07:52, 0:07:53]: Oh yeah, don't tell you. [0:07:55, 0:07:56]: Outstanding. [0:07:57, 0:07:59]: Good to hear. Good to hear. [0:08:04, 0:08:05]: Well, six thirty. [0:08:09, 0:08:11]: Call the planning commission meeting to order. [0:08:15, 0:08:16]: Um [0:08:16, 0:08:16]: Yeah. [0:08:17, 0:08:19]: Mr. Horns, can you give us an invocation? [0:08:21, 0:08:23]: No, you know not been putting me on the spot like that. [0:08:25, 0:08:25]: Yeah. [0:08:27, 0:08:28]: Uh [0:08:29, 0:08:30]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [0:08:33, 0:08:34]: Yeah, bye bye here. [0:08:36, 0:08:38]: I should have no [0:08:39, 0:08:41]: Gat us to the night as we uh [0:08:41, 0:08:45]: through the city of the business of Stockbridge City of Stockbridge. [0:08:46, 0:08:50]: Let it lead us in the right direction on everything we decide to do. [0:08:51, 0:08:52]: Well you got to [0:08:53, 0:08:54]: Everybody have a [0:08:55, 0:08:56]: Safe rest of the week. [0:08:57, 0:08:57]: And [0:08:58, 0:09:02]: Amen. This is short for me, you know. I don't this ain't my thing. [0:09:03, 0:09:03]: Yeah. [0:09:03, 0:09:07]: Sorry to put you on the spot, but that's that's good enough. That's good enough. [0:09:08, 0:09:09]: Okay, um [0:09:10, 0:09:12]: I'll leave us in the pledge of allegiance and place your [0:09:15, 0:09:19]: Ah, pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. [0:09:20, 0:09:22]: And to the Republic which it stands. [0:09:23, 0:09:28]: One nation under God. Indivisible with liberty and justice for all. [0:09:30, 0:09:31]: Miss uh [0:09:32, 0:09:33]: Logan, can we get uh [0:09:33, 0:09:34]: A roll call? [0:09:35, 0:09:36]: Yes. [0:09:36, 0:09:38]: Ask you Adela. [0:09:38, 0:09:39]: Present. [0:09:40, 0:09:41]: Harold Double Doe. [0:09:42, 0:09:42]: Present. [0:09:44, 0:09:45]: Stanley Dumas. [0:09:49, 0:09:51]: Okay, uh Kathleen Nelson. [0:09:52, 0:09:52]: Present. [0:09:54, 0:09:55]: David Plancham. [0:09:56, 0:09:56]: Present [0:09:58, 0:09:59]: And Rodney Horns. [0:10:00, 0:10:00]: Present. [0:10:01, 0:10:03]: We have a quorum, Mr. Chairman. [0:10:04, 0:10:06]: Mr. Chairman, if we can also um add that. [0:10:07, 0:10:10]: If you will do a roll call for Mr. Dumas, he is now on the call. [0:10:11, 0:10:12]: He's on the call. [0:10:12, 0:10:13]: Yes, sir. [0:10:16, 0:10:17]: Miss um [0:10:18, 0:10:23]: And do we do a roll call for Mr. Dumas, please? Mr. Dumas, Stanley Dumas, are you present? [0:10:23, 0:10:24]: Present. [0:10:24, 0:10:25]: Thank you. [0:10:36, 0:10:40]: I have a motion to adopt the agenda, today's agenda. [0:10:43, 0:10:45]: I make a motion to adopt today's agenda. [0:10:46, 0:10:47]: Yeah, second second. [0:10:48, 0:10:49]: Who's second in that? [0:10:51, 0:10:53]: Well, I said second Harold. [0:10:53, 0:10:54]: Okay, so uh [0:10:55, 0:10:59]: Mr. Nelson, uh mo motion then Mr. Thibodeau second. [0:11:00, 0:11:01]: You got that, Miss Logan? [0:11:01, 0:11:02]: Yes. [0:11:02, 0:11:03]: Okay. [0:11:05, 0:11:07]: Okay, all in favor, let it be known by sign of aye. [0:11:08, 0:11:16]: Aye. Those opposed? Ayes have it. The motion is carried. Let us review uh the minutes from December the second. [0:11:32, 0:11:34]: There any changes to be made in the uh [0:11:35, 0:11:36]: The agenda from the second. [0:11:37, 0:11:38]: December second. [0:11:43, 0:11:44]: You bright eyed Mr. Doom's today. [0:11:47, 0:11:51]: Thank you, I'm glad you noticed. [0:11:53, 0:11:57]: Oh, any changes from the uh meeting from December 2nd? [0:12:00, 0:12:08]: Hearing none, um I have a motion to uh adopt the um December the second uh meetings minutes. [0:12:11, 0:12:15]: I'll make a motion to adopt the agenda from the December second. Um [0:12:16, 0:12:17]: Planning commission meeting. [0:12:18, 0:12:21]: Mr. Chairman, this is David Planchon. I'd second that. [0:12:22, 0:12:24]: Excuse me, that was the minutes, not the agenda. [0:12:24, 0:12:27]: That was the minutes from the second. From the second. [0:12:27, 0:12:30]: The minutes from the December second. I'm sorry. [0:12:31, 0:12:33]: And who s who seconds the motion? [0:12:34, 0:12:35]: Mr. Planchton. [0:12:35, 0:12:35]: Thank you. [0:12:37, 0:12:38]: Okay. [0:12:40, 0:12:41]: Okay. [0:12:43, 0:12:49]: Uh have we all had an opportunity to review the uh revised um planning commission bylaws? [0:12:49, 0:12:51]: Wait, wait a minute, was a vote taken? [0:12:53, 0:12:53]: Oh, I'm sorry. [0:12:54, 0:12:55]: Or was it? [0:12:55, 0:12:57]: All those people let it be known by the sign of by. [0:12:58, 0:13:00]: Uh those opposed. I seven. [0:13:01, 0:13:04]: The amendments from December second have been adopted. [0:13:06, 0:13:09]: removed and adopted. Um [0:13:10, 0:13:14]: Has everyone had an opportunity to re to review the revised planning commission bylaws? [0:13:17, 0:13:18]: Yes. Yes. [0:13:20, 0:13:24]: Yes. Any any changes or modifications or discussion on the bylaws? [0:13:34, 0:13:44]: hearing none that we have a motion to uh i'm sorry i'm sorry um chairman i i was trying to unmute um there is one um change i did want to [0:13:45, 0:13:52]: Bring to the attention of the board. Um Mr. Jumas um through his review brought to our attention there was a a statement. [0:13:52, 0:14:10]: within the bylaws as it pertains to um to election re-election of the chair and vice chair so under 2.1 um we had it states that the chair and vice chair [0:14:10, 0:14:30]: Uh each shall serve a term of one year or until the expiration of his or her term, whichever occurs first. However, the revision that you all agreed to was that the chair and the vice chair shall serve for one term of one year period. So that every January. [0:14:30, 0:14:33]: those two offices can be re-elected. [0:14:33, 0:14:37]: Um, excuse me, Ms. Johnson, that phrase has already been taken out. [0:14:37, 0:14:38]: In the revision. [0:14:39, 0:14:52]: We just wanted to clarify that, make sure that was clear. And I wanted to bring it up for the sake of Mr. Dumas, who alerted me to it. Just wanted to make sure that we were all clear on that, on that update. Thank you, Chair. [0:14:53, 0:14:54]: Okay. [0:14:55, 0:14:58]: Hearing none, I have a motion to adopt the bylaws, the new bylaws. [0:15:01, 0:15:04]: I make a motion to adopt the new bylaws. [0:15:05, 0:15:06]: Get a second. [0:15:07, 0:15:08]: Exactly. [0:15:08, 0:15:10]: Who's that seconding? Who who's the second? [0:15:11, 0:15:12]: Errol, give it up. [0:15:12, 0:15:13]: Mr. Tividal. [0:15:14, 0:15:18]: All right. It's been moved and second. All those in favor, let it be known by the sign of aye. [0:15:19, 0:15:27]: Aye. Those opposed? Ayes have it. The motion is carried and the um bylaws, uh the new bylaws are adopted. [0:15:30, 0:15:31]: Okay. [0:15:31, 0:15:34]: Okay, Miss Johnson. [0:15:35, 0:15:37]: We don't have any project updates, do we? [0:15:38, 0:15:58]: I don't have any any project updates from our meeting, from our last meeting. Just to tell you that we are continuing to get interest in the city and in particular in areas where we have interstate interchanges at Jodico and I-75, also at Hudson Bridge. [0:15:58, 0:16:18]: So there's a lot of a lot of moving parts. One thing I did want to uh let you all know is that the uh Mayor Ford and the council members have kind of started back with ribbon cuttings. And ribbon cuttings are held the um first and third Fridays. So we have [0:16:17, 0:16:21]: have one tomorrow at 10 a.m. Um [0:16:21, 0:16:26]: for one of our local businesses that actually came on board during the pandemic. [0:16:26, 0:16:39]: the the beginning of the pandemic because we're still in it. But um we wanted to just kind of keep you all aware of that. Also things are continuing to move forward with the Cultural Arts Center. [0:16:40, 0:17:00]: And um I think at the next meeting in January, we'll have a I have a more in-depth um detailed update for you all. But these projects that have been talked about uh by the council for you know over the last several months and you know years even prior to my coming on board um are are starting to come to fruition. So I just want to keep you alert. [0:17:00, 0:17:20]: of those things. And next year I'll be sending more information out to you all just quarterly, just so you kind of know what's going on in the department. You know what's going on kind of citywide as it pertains to zoning and projects and that sort of thing. So [0:17:20, 0:17:30]: So if you'll bear with me, I'll start pulling that information together for you in the new year so that you all can be abreast and reach out whenever you have any questions or comments. [0:17:31, 0:17:33]: But that but that is all I have. [0:17:34, 0:17:36]: Appreciate that. When did you say the ribbon cuttings were? [0:17:37, 0:17:46]: Uh the ribbon cuttings are typically the first and third Fridays at 10 a.m. Um I believe we have [0:17:48, 0:17:51]: One tomorrow. [0:17:53, 0:18:05]: And what I will do is I will force for one of our businesses here and I'll forward that to you all following this hearing, if you would like to attend. [0:18:08, 0:18:11]: Mr. Chairman, this is Dave Planchon with an unimportant question. [0:18:12, 0:18:13]: Go ahead, sir. [0:18:13, 0:18:24]: Does the planning commission have uh badges that we can wear if we go into public for ribbon cutting and that type of event for identification purposes? [0:18:25, 0:18:35]: Well what we can do, we can order those for you. Um we can get those ordered. I was hoping to to wait until um [0:18:35, 0:18:55]: The January meeting, once we elect the chairman and the vice chair. And I know those kind of switch out, but as those, as you guys kind of rotate, I want to get those to you all in the new year. We've kind of cut off our purchasing for the year, but we will most definitely get you all since we've got a final board and all the members. [0:18:55, 0:19:04]: members um we'll get some name name tags for you all, um, name badges. So we'll work on that and get that to you all in the in the new year. [0:19:06, 0:19:08]: Um may I speak, Mr. Chairman? [0:19:08, 0:19:09]: Sure. [0:19:09, 0:19:10]: Miss it too well. [0:19:12, 0:19:15]: Uh, they were also supposed to get us uh shirts. [0:19:16, 0:19:19]: For the uh planning commission also that never happened. [0:19:21, 0:19:27]: I don't know who they is, but I'm here now, so I'll be more than happy to get your sizes. [0:19:27, 0:19:28]: And um [0:19:29, 0:19:31]: We'll order the get those ordered at the same time. [0:19:32, 0:19:34]: Well that that would be that'll be fine. [0:19:34, 0:19:37]: I I I don't want to express names, but [0:19:37, 0:19:56]: I I'm just saying that what's supposed to happen. That's all. Okay. Well, on my watch, we will make sure that it does happen. So if you all don't mind, I'll be uh getting an email out to you guys. Uh Lendel send something out about getting your shirt sizes um and we'll have you try them on. [0:19:57, 0:20:10]: before we put your name on them, because we'll do a probably embroidery your name on those once we know it's a good fit for you. And um so you can have that when you're going to ruminate cuttings or going to new events, other events throughout the city. [0:20:10, 0:20:11]: and outside the city. [0:20:13, 0:20:13]: Okay. [0:20:14, 0:20:15]: Okay, uh [0:20:15, 0:20:17]: Any comments from the board? [0:20:20, 0:20:22]: Mr. Clancher, Ms. Belson. [0:20:23, 0:20:25]: Yeah, I was just gonna say I was [0:20:26, 0:20:29]: Everyone a a good new year and happy holidays. [0:20:29, 0:20:34]: We won't see each other again until next year. So you skipping Christmas? Absolutely. [0:20:34, 0:20:38]: You skipping Christmas? Yes, I'm skipping Christmas. [0:20:39, 0:20:53]: We all want to and uh like fifty percent we just wanna just not it we want not to happen, but of fifty percent we're I'm excited, I gotta say. So I wish y'all uh I wish all a happy n happy holiday, Christmas, New Year's. [0:20:54, 0:21:00]: And that we'll have a prosperous year forthcoming. Absolutely. Absolutely. Thank you. [0:21:01, 0:21:14]: Um the final uh planning uh the final city council meeting is scheduled for next um next week, the twenty first. I believe that is on [0:21:15, 0:21:33]: Tuesday night. And that starts at 6 p.m. And it will be in the council chambers unless something changes between now and then and is scheduled to be in the council chambers at six. And that meeting will be the final reading and hopefully adoption of the 2022 budget. [0:21:34, 0:21:35]: Among other items. [0:21:36, 0:21:39]: So um back. [0:21:41, 0:21:43]: It is all I have, Chairman. [0:21:44, 0:21:45]: Okay, thank you. [0:21:46, 0:21:48]: Uh any other comments? [0:21:50, 0:21:52]: Noah. Happy holidays, everybody. [0:21:53, 0:21:53]: Yeah. [0:21:54, 0:21:56]: Want to thank you. Happy holidays. [0:21:56, 0:21:57]: Thank you. [0:21:57, 0:22:01]: Well, that completes our agenda for today. Can I get a motion to adjourn? [0:22:03, 0:22:05]: Mr. Chairman, this is Dave Planchon. I would like to [0:22:06, 0:22:09]: Make a motion to adjourn our last meeting of twenty twenty one. [0:22:10, 0:22:11]: And I second it. [0:22:12, 0:22:15]: It's been moved by Mr. Planton and second by Mr. Thibodeau. [0:22:16, 0:22:19]: That this meeting is adjourned until next year. [0:22:19, 0:22:20]: All right. [0:22:20, 0:22:25]: Wanna wish everybody a happy, uh happy holiday again and prosperous new year. [0:22:25, 0:22:28]: And look forward and and look forward to seeing you next year. [0:22:29, 0:22:33]: Absolutely. Absolutely. Thank you, sir. And same to each one of you and um [0:22:34, 0:22:37]: We're looking forward to an amazing twenty twenty two. [0:22:37, 0:22:38]: Right. Definitely. [0:22:38, 0:22:40]: Sounds good. Take care. [0:22:40, 0:22:41]: All right. [0:22:42, 0:22:42]: Good night. [0:22:43, 0:22:47]: Good night, all good night, everybody. Good night. Good night.

--- title: Special Called Meeting date: 2021-12-15 source: 2021-12-15_Special_Called_Meeting.wav --- [0:04:51, 0:04:55]: Good afternoon everyone. We're already live on Facebook and recording. [0:05:00, 0:05:03]: Good afternoon. Afternoon. [0:05:04, 0:05:05]: That's new. [0:05:28, 0:05:30]: Okay. [0:06:25, 0:06:28]: I have two o'clock, but I see that we do not have a quorum at this time. [0:06:30, 0:06:31]: Uh in this aspect. So [0:06:34, 0:06:34]: Yeah. [0:06:36, 0:06:41]: Mayor Ford it has begun streaming this meeting on Facebook Live, FYI. [0:06:41, 0:06:42]: Appreciate it. Thank you. [0:06:43, 0:06:44]: Okay, let's see here. What do we got? [0:06:45, 0:06:47]: Just resent the link, so [0:06:48, 0:06:50]: Everyone should have had it at the top of their email. [0:06:51, 0:06:52]: Okay, thank you. [0:07:01, 0:07:04]: Does Chris K part need to be added to the [0:07:05, 0:07:06]: Not even. [0:07:06, 0:07:09]: Not at this time, it'd be it'll be an executive session here shortly. [0:07:09, 0:07:11]: Mective session. Okay, thanks. [0:07:11, 0:07:12]: Exactly session, right. [0:07:14, 0:07:15]: When we get to that point. [0:07:54, 0:07:55]: [508.0, 509.2]: Hello everyone. [0:08:31, 0:08:32]: Hello. [0:08:35, 0:08:38]: All right, so we now we now have a quorum. So anyway, on that note. [0:08:38, 0:08:39]: We now have a core. [0:08:39, 0:08:40]: Okay, so [0:08:41, 0:08:43]: We do Maybe I can't see everyone on the screen. [0:08:44, 0:08:47]: Well what when you do roll call, you'll see that we'll have a we have a corn present. [0:08:49, 0:08:49]: Okay. [0:08:50, 0:08:53]: All right, ladies and gentlemen. Uh since we're we're a Facebook live and recording. [0:08:53, 0:08:58]: I like to uh call the special call meeting uh for December fifteenth. Uh [0:08:58, 0:08:59]: To order. [0:08:59, 0:09:02]: And uh madam clerk, please do a roll call. [0:09:03, 0:09:04]: Mayor Ford? [0:09:04, 0:09:05]: Present. [0:09:06, 0:09:07]: May approach him Alexander. [0:09:08, 0:09:08]: President. [0:09:10, 0:09:11]: Councilwoman Barber. [0:09:12, 0:09:12]: President. [0:09:14, 0:09:14]: Councilman Blount. [0:09:17, 0:09:20]: That the record reflect counseling blind is not in attendance. [0:09:20, 0:09:22]: Councilwoman Dant. [0:09:24, 0:09:28]: Let the record reflect Councilwoman Gann is not in attendance. Councilman Thomas. [0:09:31, 0:09:34]: That the record reflect Councilman Thomas is not in attendance. [0:09:34, 0:09:36]: I thought I saw him. [0:09:37, 0:09:41]: I he's he's yeah, I I see him. He just gotta speak speak up. He's muted. [0:09:45, 0:09:46]: I'm sorry. [0:09:47, 0:09:49]: But I am here. [0:09:50, 0:10:08]: My thought. Okay. Mayor Ford, you have a quorum. Thank you. Appreciate it, uh, Madam Clerk. Uh let me do a quick invocation, please. Um, Lord, thank you to bring us together once again as we do the city's business for a special call meeting. Allow us to make good logical decisions as we continue to move our city forward. Be us always, Lord, in your name. Amen. [0:10:08, 0:10:14]: Um do we'll do a pleas a pledge of allegiance. Um I don't have a flag, but we stand for pledge of allegiance. [0:10:16, 0:10:19]: Pledge allegiance to the flag. [0:10:20, 0:10:28]: Um two things one nature, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice overall. [0:10:30, 0:10:35]: All right, council, I need a uh motion to adopt the agenda to go into executive session. [0:10:36, 0:10:37]: So [0:10:38, 0:10:38]: There's second. [0:10:41, 0:10:43]: Oh, I'm still okay. Um [0:10:43, 0:10:54]: Miss Barber's uh second that. Um I forgot to mention uh executive session for real estate issues is I'm sorry, sir. Uh I make a motion to go into executive session for real estate issues. [0:10:55, 0:10:55]: Okay. [0:10:55, 0:10:57]: Miss Barber, you second that? [0:10:58, 0:11:00]: Okay. All in favor, please indicate. [0:11:00, 0:11:01]: Uh [0:11:02, 0:11:09]: Okay. Well, okay. Thank you, sir. I hear you. Okay. So on that note, uh, we will go into executive session. [0:11:09, 0:11:11]: Uh Miss Holiday, are we straight? [0:11:11, 0:11:19]: Yes. Okay. So you need to send okay. So we need to send everybody a a separate link to go into cycle session, please. Correct. Thank you. Thank you, Monk. Appreciate it.

--- title: December 13 2021 City Council Meeting date: 2021-12-13 source: 2021-12-13_December_13_2021_City_Council_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:00]: Que música. [0:00:03, 0:00:06]: live and face. Thank you. There we go. Appreciate it. [0:00:10, 0:00:11]: All right, good deal. [0:00:22, 0:00:25]: All right, wait for everybody else to show up and get online. [0:01:00, 0:01:03]: And we are streaming live at this point on Facebook. [0:01:16, 0:01:18]: All right, Council Thomas, good evening to you. [0:01:20, 0:01:22]: Hello, sir. How are you? [0:01:22, 0:01:22]: All righty. [0:01:41, 0:01:43]: Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. [0:01:43, 0:01:46]: I didn't get a chance to talk with you earlier, but I do have uh [0:01:46, 0:01:48]: A few motions to make. [0:01:49, 0:01:50]: Um [0:01:52, 0:02:03]: Are we are we live? Yeah, actually we are live right now. So I mean if you have motions, no problem, we'll deal with that. But uh we are live actually on Facebook right now and recording. All right, thank you. Uh-huh. You're welcome. [0:02:07, 0:02:09]: Welcome, Councilwoman Barber. [0:02:19, 0:02:22]: Chief, our chief of police has now joined us outstanding. [0:02:24, 0:02:24]: Evening. [0:02:25, 0:02:25]: Evening. [0:02:36, 0:02:41]: Okay, I have 559, but uh let's see here. [0:02:42, 0:02:46]: We need our attorneys and uh we actually have a quorum. [0:02:48, 0:02:49]: We need our attorneys as well. [0:03:49, 0:03:50]: No. [0:04:17, 0:04:21]: Welcome, uh Mr. Peterson, Miss Johnson, Miss Logan. [0:04:22, 0:04:25]: Welcome to the meeting in Airport Town. Good to see you. [0:04:26, 0:04:27]: Good evening, Mayor. [0:04:28, 0:04:30]: Right? How how you doing, sir? [0:04:31, 0:04:32]: Ready? Good deal. [0:04:34, 0:04:36]: Okay. Hello everyone. [0:04:38, 0:04:38]: Okay. [0:04:40, 0:04:42]: Good evening, Mayor T. Good evening, everybody. [0:04:46, 0:04:49]: Ah, there we go. Mr. Washington is now in. [0:04:52, 0:04:53]: How are you doing, Mr. Washington? [0:04:56, 0:04:57]: Don't know, how are you, sir? [0:04:57, 0:04:58]: Good deal. All right. [0:04:58, 0:05:03]: I know uh Mr. U and I mean Jeremy is going to be attending as well. [0:05:03, 0:05:05]: Yeah, I'm sending him the we [0:05:06, 0:05:13]: Sending him the link that I'm using now. Okay. All right. All right. So on that note, I have [0:05:14, 0:05:26]: 601 and we do have a quorum present. Uh so I'd like to call our council meeting for December 13th to order. Um Miss Holiday, please, roll call. [0:05:30, 0:05:31]: You're muted, Miss Holiday? [0:05:34, 0:05:35]: Mayor Ford. Present. [0:05:35, 0:05:37]: May approach M Alexander. [0:05:37, 0:05:38]: Present. [0:05:38, 0:05:39]: Councilwoman Barber. [0:05:39, 0:05:40]: That's it. [0:05:40, 0:05:41]: Councilman Blount. [0:05:42, 0:05:43]: Present. [0:05:43, 0:05:44]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:05:47, 0:05:51]: Let the record reflect Councilman Gantt is not in attendance. Councilman Thomas. [0:05:51, 0:05:52]: President. [0:05:52, 0:05:58]: Mayor Ford, you have a quorum. Thank you, ma'am. I appreciate that. Invocation, Councilman Blount, please, sir. [0:06:00, 0:06:00]: Yeah. [0:06:02, 0:06:07]: Dear Heaven Gracious Father, we come to you today. Thank you, Heavenly Father, for each and every one on this call. [0:06:08, 0:06:19]: We thank you for the business of the city, Heavenly Father, that everything will be done decent and in order. We thank you for the citizens entrusting us to move the city forward into areas, Heavenly Father, that you will bless. [0:06:19, 0:06:31]: We thank you, Heavenly Father, for the leadership stepping forward. We thank you for this leadership that would continue to move and strive to be the best that we can be for the citizens of this great city we call Stockbridge. [0:06:31, 0:06:49]: We thank you for the opportunities. We thank you for the vision. We thank you for everything that you would endow us with, Heavenly Father, as a city. We ask that you continue to protect us, protect this county, Heavenly Father, that you would be the overseer and one that would guide and keep us all, God. Keep us all safe during these perilous times, God. [0:06:50, 0:07:02]: Keep us all from the sickness and let, Heavenly Father, anything that would hinder us from doing your job and doing your will, let it pass us right now in the name of Jesus. So we thank you, Father, for all that you're about to do. [0:07:02, 0:07:03]: And is doing. [0:07:03, 0:07:06]: And it's in Jesus' name we pray. Amen. Amen. [0:07:07, 0:07:09]: Can we all stand for the Pledge of Allegiance, please? [0:07:12, 0:07:25]: Pledge allegiance to the flag, the United States of America, and to Republicans for which you stand. One nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:07:28, 0:07:31]: All right, council. I need a motion to adopt agenda, please. [0:07:33, 0:07:34]: Therefore [0:07:34, 0:07:35]: Yes, ma'am. Yeah, for it. [0:07:36, 0:07:37]: Yes, sir. [0:07:37, 0:07:43]: Um I I'll give it to Councilwoman Barber first. Yeah, yeah, she was first actually. Go ahead, Miss Barber. [0:07:44, 0:07:47]: Um I'd like to amend the agenda. [0:07:49, 0:07:53]: For the consent agenda, there are four items listed. [0:07:54, 0:07:55]: Number seven in this. [0:07:56, 0:08:05]: It says request for proposal RP number 20160805 engineering services for Falcon Design. [0:08:05, 0:08:18]: Number eight, request for proposal, RFP number one eight, RFP 021918, CSI engineering services or SCADA system improvements with Carter and Sloop. [0:08:19, 0:08:22]: Number nine, request for proposal number. [0:08:22, 0:08:42]: 18 RP 111918-DRR Community Development Construction Project Manager with Keckham Wood. Number 10, request for proposal, RFP number 17, RFP11207-DRR, Information Technology Supportive Services. [0:08:42, 0:08:45]: with Interdev Technology LLC. [0:08:46, 0:08:50]: Those four items are already on the consent agenda. [0:08:50, 0:08:53]: But I like to propose or make a motion. [0:08:53, 0:08:55]: That we also include several other. [0:08:55, 0:08:56]: Items. [0:08:56, 0:08:58]: that are on the agenda. [0:08:58, 0:09:03]: but they're not on the consent agenda. So I wanna add them to the consent agenda. [0:09:03, 0:09:04]: With conditions. [0:09:06, 0:09:26]: Should I say what my conditions are? Well, yeah, I will tell you. Okay, yes, you you should. And then you want to add these additional uh contracts that are on under new business, is what I gather under new business under certain conditions. And those conditions will apply to the other four that you already mentioned. Is that what I'm assuming? That's what okay. Yeah, you need to identify. [0:09:26, 0:09:31]: that because the council needs to know if they're going to approve this or not. So yes, you need to identify what you want. [0:09:32, 0:09:32]: Okay. [0:09:33, 0:09:36]: So let me get back to the agenda. [0:09:40, 0:09:43]: So there are several contracts. [0:09:44, 0:09:48]: And they're listed as requests for proposals when in fact they are indeed. [0:09:48, 0:09:52]: contracts and I believe staff is presenting them. [0:09:52, 0:09:55]: As requests to expand. [0:09:55, 0:10:04]: The contracts. So I'm not sure why they're listed as requests for proposals because we're not looking to award any of them. Is that correct, Mr. Wiggins? [0:10:04, 0:10:06]: These are contract extensions. [0:10:11, 0:10:13]: You thought I on the new business? [0:10:13, 0:10:15]: Yeah. They're on a new business and so [0:10:16, 0:10:18]: Yes, they they [0:10:18, 0:10:22]: Okay, so the rec number thirteen more some remote. [0:10:22, 0:10:37]: The request number 13, request for proposal number 2020-0026, annual on-call water and sewer emergency operational repair, maintenance and construction, site engineering. [0:10:38, 0:10:49]: Number 14, request for proposal number 20210004, landscape maintenance services with Yellowstone Landscape contract renewal. [0:10:50, 0:11:00]: Number 15, request for proposal numbers 2021-0008. Annual on-call sidewalk repairs and replacement. [0:11:01, 0:11:09]: Number 16, request for proposal RP number 2020-0025, janitorial maintenance services. [0:11:10, 0:11:13]: intercontinental commercial services. [0:11:13, 0:11:31]: Number 17, request for proposal RP number 2020-0027, professional permitting and building inspection services with safe built. Number 18, request for proposal RIP number 2021 0001P. [0:11:32, 0:11:37]: Omnia partners public sector Prince Williams Public Schools contract. [0:11:39, 0:11:45]: RT one seven zero zero six and Amazon services. Um I don't [0:11:46, 0:11:50]: I can't remember. Is that a um contract extension? [0:11:51, 0:11:52]: Um [0:11:52, 0:11:55]: That is a this is gonna be like a change order. [0:11:55, 0:11:57]: Okay. It's a change to that one. [0:11:58, 0:11:58]: Okay. [0:11:59, 0:12:00]: So not number 18. [0:12:01, 0:12:06]: So we have 13, 14, 15, 16, and 17 that are contract extensions. [0:12:07, 0:12:08]: Um [0:12:09, 0:12:09]: So [0:12:10, 0:12:17]: Adding 13, 14, 15, 16, and 17 to the consent agenda, I will approve with conditions. [0:12:18, 0:12:24]: And my motion is to approve those contracts with conditions and the conditions are [0:12:25, 0:12:26]: Number one. [0:12:27, 0:12:29]: All fully executed contracts. [0:12:30, 0:12:32]: with countersign copies. [0:12:32, 0:12:36]: should be forwarded to the custodial of records as indicated in our charter. [0:12:37, 0:12:39]: As to clerk's office. [0:12:39, 0:12:41]: What was provided to the council? [0:12:42, 0:12:44]: were the original RPs. [0:12:45, 0:12:48]: We don't need the RFPs, we need the actual contract. [0:12:49, 0:12:49]: Because [0:12:50, 0:12:52]: Staff is asking the council. [0:12:53, 0:12:54]: To extend. [0:12:54, 0:12:56]: the existing contract. [0:12:56, 0:12:58]: Those existing contracts. [0:12:58, 0:13:00]: most of them on the consent agenda. [0:13:00, 0:13:02]: will expire December thirty first [0:13:03, 0:13:05]: I believe there's one that will expire in January. [0:13:06, 0:13:07]: The end of January. [0:13:07, 0:13:09]: So what I'm asking for. [0:13:09, 0:13:13]: is the actual countersign fully executed contracts. [0:13:14, 0:13:17]: So when I make the request for copies of contracts. [0:13:18, 0:13:25]: I'm not asking for the standard language that is included in the original RPs. [0:13:25, 0:13:28]: We know with the e fully executed contracts. [0:13:29, 0:13:30]: There may be conditions. [0:13:31, 0:13:32]: That the council may have [0:13:32, 0:13:33]: Indicated. [0:13:34, 0:13:36]: When they approved the original award. [0:13:37, 0:13:38]: I need to see that. [0:13:38, 0:13:41]: But I didn't get copies of it. When I asked [0:13:42, 0:13:43]: For the supporting documents. [0:13:43, 0:13:47]: of all of these contract extensions. So I just want to make sure going forward. [0:13:47, 0:13:54]: That council provides the actual contracts when they're asking council's approval to extend. [0:13:55, 0:13:56]: The second condition [0:13:57, 0:13:59]: Uh staff should present to the council. [0:13:59, 0:14:01]: The recommendation to award. [0:14:01, 0:14:03]: A new contract. [0:14:03, 0:14:05]: by our November council meeting. [0:14:06, 0:14:13]: There are several of these contracts that I'm proposing that we add to the consent agenda that have already received. [0:14:13, 0:14:15]: At least one. [0:14:15, 0:14:16]: Extension. [0:14:17, 0:14:19]: A couple of them have been extended. [0:14:20, 0:14:21]: Three times already. [0:14:22, 0:14:25]: We need to make sure that we are sending these back out for bid. [0:14:26, 0:14:27]: I want to make sure. [0:14:28, 0:14:30]: staff should present to the council. [0:14:30, 0:14:33]: The recommendation to award a new contract. [0:14:33, 0:14:35]: By november twenty twenty two. [0:14:36, 0:14:37]: Council meeting. [0:14:37, 0:14:42]: Staff will need to determine when best to post the solicitations. [0:14:42, 0:14:45]: Allowing adequate time to execute. [0:14:45, 0:14:47]: all the procurement processes. [0:14:47, 0:14:48]: while meeting. [0:14:49, 0:14:53]: the November council member deadline, a council meeting deadlines. [0:14:55, 0:14:58]: The third condition staff should automatically [0:14:59, 0:15:02]: Rebid services when council has previously approved. [0:15:03, 0:15:04]: An extension. [0:15:05, 0:15:10]: No new extensions after two approvals from council. [0:15:11, 0:15:14]: We have to do our due dil due diligence internally. [0:15:15, 0:15:17]: make sure that we are putting these back out. [0:15:17, 0:15:22]: so that we are open, fair, and transparent to the public. [0:15:22, 0:15:24]: We can't just keep renewing contracts. [0:15:25, 0:15:27]: The fourth one is [0:15:27, 0:15:30]: Um for the city attorneys, but it's also a condition. [0:15:31, 0:15:36]: Um, I don't see that there are guidelines for the council or even staff to follow. [0:15:36, 0:15:41]: With regards to readvertising city services in the ordinance, the code. [0:15:41, 0:15:42]: Policy or manual. [0:15:43, 0:15:55]: We need to have it spelled out. I believe that staff is following most of the um Department of Administrative Services, the state procurement processes, and that's fine, but we need to have it spelled out in our own. [0:15:56, 0:16:00]: codes, policies, ordinance, manuals, so that we're all clear. [0:16:01, 0:16:03]: Um and please. [0:16:03, 0:16:05]: To the city attorneys. [0:16:05, 0:16:12]: Add to the list of recommended revisions to our procurement ordinance, policy, manual, code. [0:16:12, 0:16:19]: Language or criteria that speaks to the best practices and criteria for rebidding city services. [0:16:20, 0:16:25]: The list of recommended revisions should be presented to the council for approval. [0:16:25, 0:16:27]: At our February council meeting. [0:16:28, 0:16:33]: We need to be able to demonstrate to the public that our processes are open and fair. [0:16:34, 0:16:38]: That's all. So those four conditions I'm willing to approve. [0:16:39, 0:16:45]: all of staff's request for council's approval to extend these contracts. [0:16:46, 0:16:54]: All right. Um now attorney is that is that this is all considered a legal motion. This it hadn't been seconded just yet, but it is considered a legal motion. [0:16:57, 0:17:05]: Yes, Mayor, I guess with those points, uh correct. And then I uh respectfully, Councilmember Barber, if you can send us those as well. So we make sure that we have those. [0:17:06, 0:17:09]: I guess if this you know, with if this passes, but so that we have those [0:17:10, 0:17:10]: Uh [0:17:11, 0:17:13]: Reflected correctly, please. [0:17:14, 0:17:16]: Okay, if they should be um [0:17:17, 0:17:25]: They should be included in the minutes. I believe the clerk will include those as a part of her action items. [0:17:26, 0:17:40]: The clerk was taking notes on it, but to make sure that it's uh we got it all squared away, I think uh what it amounts to is that what uh Mr. Berry is asking for to make sure that we have the right terminology upon this passing, if it passes in aspect anyway. [0:17:40, 0:17:43]: Good afternoon, Matt. I I will see. [0:17:44, 0:17:47]: Mr stand by Mr. Thomas. Go ahead, Mr. Washington. [0:17:48, 0:17:52]: I just wanna if if we could do a could we do a breakout room? [0:17:52, 0:17:55]: with the city attorney and the clerks for a second place. [0:17:55, 0:17:59]: based on the motions that bust based on the motions and stipulation that we deserve. [0:18:00, 0:18:01]: Well [0:18:01, 0:18:16]: a breakout well that would be a separate i mean to do that you have to have a separate link and it's like an executive session separate link to uh to talk with her if that's the case and you're you're referring to having a conversation with her with without the rest of the council is that what you're getting at well not not we just want to get [0:18:17, 0:18:20]: There's some clarity procedural points that I just want to iron out. [0:18:21, 0:18:29]: And so I'm I'm trying to figure that out based on what the clerk would have taken down about. Yes. Well, I mean, if we want to have a discussion here, we can, but [0:18:30, 0:18:44]: Okay. Because what's going to happen is I'm going to be we're legal's going to be asked to write resolutions about this, right? I think these should be standalone resolutions. I wanted to confer with the clerk to get her thoughts on this because these are at they're specific things which I think are outside of stipulations. [0:18:44, 0:18:47]: But I want to ask the clerk that to get her thoughts on that. [0:18:48, 0:18:50]: All right. Like for tracking purposes, what's best for you? [0:18:53, 0:18:57]: Good afternoon, Mayor. May I speak? Stand by. Stand by, Miss Miller. Um [0:18:59, 0:19:04]: Miss Holliday, did you want to answer answer? I see you, Mr. Thomas. Mr. Ms. Holiday, you want to answer him at this point? [0:19:05, 0:19:25]: Do you have an answer? Mayor uh council, your legal counsel has requested a meeting. I would um respectfully ask that we honor that. Okay, understand. I can send um a meeting to him. Okay, stand by. All right, I understand, stand by. Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. Mayor for before we go there. [0:19:25, 0:19:28]: Uh correct me someone if if I'm incorrect. [0:19:29, 0:19:32]: The concern agenda agenda [0:19:32, 0:19:34]: Uh it has to be [0:19:34, 0:19:38]: uh agreed upon amongst all council members. [0:19:38, 0:19:44]: Because I have I have some issues and I have some questions on some of these agenda items. [0:19:45, 0:19:49]: So if that is the case, they they should not go to consent agenda. Is that correct? [0:19:50, 0:19:51]: That is correct. [0:19:52, 0:19:56]: Cause I I I just have I have questions with many of these items. [0:19:58, 0:20:18]: Well, I know that we we initially agreed that these items would come on a consent agenda in our previous meeting. That's why they're there. If we're going if you're thinking about if you have further questions, you want to take something off, I guess we'll have to refer back to attorneys in reference to Robert's rules of order. I do know I do recall, Mr. Thomas, and I've talked to Mr. Berry about this, that you wanted some additional statements. [0:20:18, 0:20:30]: or additional statements some type in reference to the items on the agenda, these contracts about them having some routine guidance and updates uh per se. And I talked to Mr. Berry about that earlier. [0:20:30, 0:20:42]: And we uh we're going to discuss that further as we talked about this, but I'll tell you, stand by Mr. Thomas for a second, please. Mr. Barrett, can you can you at least expound on that? And that may be one of the things that Mr. Thomas is looking for. [0:20:43, 0:21:03]: Which part specifically, Mayor I guess I gotta look at the other. We we talked originally about the four items, four contracts on the uh consent agenda, but also in reference to a particular statement that needed to be added with those contracts in reference to reporting on a more routine basis so the council is kept uh aware of what's going on with those specific design. [0:21:03, 0:21:17]: uh projects that those contractors had. And we discussed that a couple of times, I believe. Right. Yes. Uh correct. I know there's been sentiment from the council or from council members about having regular reports from various contractors. Uh you know, either [0:21:17, 0:21:23]: Monthly reports to the city manager or quarterly reports or or regular reports to the council. [0:21:23, 0:21:32]: That can be done one of two different ways. Either we could make it the language of of contracts, which is fine. It may not need to be that, or just pass a resolution, frankly. [0:21:32, 0:21:40]: That says that that's the policy of the the council. It doesn't necessarily need to be a contract item. It can be put in the contract. [0:21:40, 0:21:46]: But if the if the council or the city manager or the mayor, whomever, wants regular updates. [0:21:46, 0:21:49]: Then they're entitled to those from the the contractors. [0:21:49, 0:21:51]: So it can be done either in the contracts. [0:21:52, 0:22:02]: separate resolution or frankly council can just say contractor we want you to report at such and such meeting doesn't even need to be in a contract in in the contract language. [0:22:02, 0:22:18]: Therefore, if I may stand by thank you, Mr. Barrett, for that. Back to you, Mr. Thomas. Go ahead, sir. See, for for instance, uh I I have issues with um Yellowstone, so I would not approve of that being in consent agenda because I have some I have questions. [0:22:18, 0:22:27]: So I don't know if this motion is going to pass or not, but I agree with some of the things that um Councilwoman Barber stated. [0:22:27, 0:22:31]: I do not agree with consent agenda because there are questions. [0:22:32, 0:22:50]: Okay. So I'm back well stand by please. Mr. Washington, back to you on the legal opinion, as well as Mr. Berry here. We have a consent agenda that we agreed to to put on this for this particular um meeting. So if we want to take something off that consent agenda, there's a process I would imagine for Robert's rules that we'd have to go through to do that is my assumption. [0:22:51, 0:22:53]: One person. [0:22:54, 0:22:59]: Yes, sir. Would be a motion to remove something from the consent agenda. Okay. [0:22:59, 0:23:00]: All right. [0:23:00, 0:23:20]: All right. Stand by Ms. Brand Pro Temp. Stand by. All right. Thank you, Mr. Barrett. Ms. Miller, go ahead, please. Yes. Mayor. I'm sorry, Miss Miller. Yes, good afternoon. Good evening, Mayor. Um Council. Hold on. Ms. Barber, stand by Miss Barber. Miss Miller. I have in front of me the I have in front of me this is [0:23:20, 0:23:34]: Is the site engineering which was uploaded to Civic Plus? On the second page is the actual contract for Civic Plus. The contract was signed by [0:23:35, 0:23:48]: It was signed and executed by the mayor, the council, and the clerk. This was uploaded with the agenda. The agenda is first, the contract is there, the RFP is next. [0:23:48, 0:23:50]: Next is [0:23:51, 0:23:57]: Omnia partners, the same thing. The actual contract that was executed. [0:23:58, 0:24:00]: It's behind the agenda. [0:24:01, 0:24:06]: The next one is janitorial janitorial. [0:24:06, 0:24:15]: By ICS. If you look at the agenda, which was uploaded to Civic Plus and submitted to the council, you'll see there is the agenda. [0:24:16, 0:24:27]: Here, the next page under the agenda is the actual executed agreement contract by the vendor. The next one that you have in front of you is Safe Build. [0:24:28, 0:24:35]: You'll see that this was uploaded to the agenda. You have the agenda. Next page after the agenda. [0:24:38, 0:24:46]: Is the actual the actual executed contract by the vendor and it was signed by the mayor, the clerk. [0:24:46, 0:24:50]: Um and the vendor. The next contract you have is Yellowstone. [0:24:52, 0:24:53]: The agenda. [0:24:53, 0:24:57]: This was also uploaded on Civic Plus and submitted to the council. [0:24:58, 0:25:03]: The next page underneath the agenda is the actual executed contract. [0:25:03, 0:25:05]: And this was signed. [0:25:12, 0:25:32]: By the mayor, the clerk, and the vendor. So, with all the agendas that were submitted, every executed contract was submitted as an exhibit. Number two, the renewal process. The renewal process is spelled out in the policy for procurement. It's also best practice. [0:25:32, 0:25:52]: Practices and for the state. When we send out a renewal, the renewal is not done based on the procurement department. The renewal is actually sent out to each department head and they give the recommendation to the procurement department and advise because they are the experts whether they want to renew or not. They have the opportunity. [0:25:52, 0:25:58]: Opportunity to say if they want to rebid. We actually send them a renewal form that they fill out. [0:25:59, 0:26:15]: And they provide to the procurement department. And then we say, okay, the department has felt that the vendor has done a good job. They want to renew. This process once again is best practices. It's spelt out in state of Georgia law. It's also spelt out in our policy. [0:26:15, 0:26:35]: Now, once we get that, once we get that back from the department heads, we then prepare an agenda. If you look at the agenda, the renewal process shows where the department head has made the decision to go ahead and renew the contract. Now, when it comes to the council, the council has the right to not agree with the department head. [0:26:35, 0:26:55]: Or to agree with the department head. Procurement has no preference on what needs to be done. Basically, we look at the procurement, the expert who is the department head, who says that this vendor has done everything according to the scope of services. We then bring it to council and say, council. [0:26:55, 0:27:08]: Look, your department head wants to renew. Your budget has been approved. Do you want us to renew or do you want us to bid out? The next issue is the readvertising. [0:27:08, 0:27:28]: Um, I'm sorry, number three was the automatic rebid no renew. Well, if we're going to do that, then your department heads would need a directive that says that they're not to renew any contract and we bid everything out the year after. And if that's the case, that would need to be in the ordinance, which is not in the ordinance. The number number four. [0:27:28, 0:27:45]: The re-advertisement policy. It seems like that's the same as number three, which is a little bit redundant. But the point is that every agenda was in some cases, you have uh more than 900 a thousand pages for each agenda. Each agenda had, again, the agenda. [0:27:45, 0:27:53]: The executed contract, the RFP that was bid on the streets, and then the renewal asking counsel to. [0:27:54, 0:28:08]: um approve whether they want to renew or not. So for the record, I just want it documented that every contract had the executed um executed contract and the fact the statement that no executed contracts is not accurate. [0:28:09, 0:28:13]: Thank you. Stand by stand by folks. We got a lot going on here. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [0:28:16, 0:28:18]: Mayor, thank you. You know. [0:28:19, 0:28:23]: Um we've yet to get to one agenda item. [0:28:23, 0:28:24]: Because [0:28:25, 0:28:27]: Prior to any of this tonight. [0:28:27, 0:28:30]: We all have this information prior to tonight. [0:28:31, 0:28:34]: We all have the opportunity to speak to. [0:28:34, 0:28:39]: The person that has the power of the city manager, which is the mayor right now. [0:28:39, 0:28:45]: We all have the power to talk to uh whatever department uh about whatever department head. [0:28:45, 0:28:49]: We all have this information in front of us prior to tonight. [0:28:50, 0:28:55]: And we've been on this call with all of these changes and all these presumptions and all of this stuff that we don't [0:28:56, 0:28:58]: Some of it, you know, it's like we don't have a [0:28:58, 0:28:59]: You know [0:28:59, 0:29:03]: Is this none of this is new? All of this information has been in front of this council. [0:29:04, 0:29:13]: And you know, if if if this council wants to go through each agenda item, uh Mr. Thomas has has said he would like to, then let's move forward with doing that. [0:29:14, 0:29:16]: That's nothing here that I'm seeing. [0:29:17, 0:29:21]: That's out of order whether we're gonna go by gender item or we're gonna go consent agenda. [0:29:22, 0:29:32]: And if we're gonna go by agenda item, then let's go ahead and do that because procedurally, I see nothing out of order here. Only thing we're saying is this council has the right to say. [0:29:32, 0:29:34]: Whether we want to go consent. [0:29:34, 0:29:45]: agenda or we want to go item by item if that's the case then why don't we start this meeting and stop all of this all night when all of this stuff has been before this council long before the night. [0:29:46, 0:29:48]: This makes no sense to me. [0:29:49, 0:29:51]: All right, st stand by Mr. Thomas. Mare Pro tem. [0:29:54, 0:30:07]: Yeah, I I just think that there's a general um I just want to make sure everybody understands the consent agenda. The consent agenda is non-debatable items that we have all agreed upon and that nobody has any contention. [0:30:08, 0:30:22]: All it takes to remove something from the consent agenda under Roberts rules is one person objects. So if all five of us don't agree, then that item is automatically removed from the consent agenda. That's how the consent agenda works. [0:30:22, 0:30:38]: The consent agenda is simply this. Everybody has to agree. Everybody's had all their questions already answered. It's put on the consent agenda for one bulk vote. That's it. There's no other vote. There's no more discussion. So is that what the intent is? [0:30:40, 0:30:44]: I would I manage it seems like that's the kin the attempt. Mr. Thomas, back to you now. [0:30:44, 0:30:45]: Um [0:30:46, 0:30:50]: Mayor, I'm I'm I'm glad you recognize me. I'm going to agree with [0:30:51, 0:30:53]: Uh Councilman Blount there. Um [0:30:53, 0:30:55]: Mayor Ford. [0:30:55, 0:30:56]: Mr. Washington. [0:30:57, 0:31:07]: Uh you all know that going back to November, um I spoke about this uh a month ago. I spoke to you again about this. [0:31:07, 0:31:17]: Um and so yes, yes, I I I've done my due diligence. I spoke up months ago to make sure that the language um [0:31:18, 0:31:29]: that the council approved on going back to November, the last two council meeting, this council approved of that language being in these contract. So when I receive the packet, that language is not there. [0:31:30, 0:31:46]: Also, let me just speak to another issue. Uh, I spoke with the community development director and I was prepared to make a motion to remove Safe Built because she informed me and she recommended that it be removed because it is not up for renewal. [0:31:47, 0:31:49]: So we receive this information. [0:31:49, 0:32:09]: um two weeks before the expiration. I have a problem with that. But again, the community development director, uh, when I spoke with her, uh, she suggested that that this removed because uh it is up is not up for renewal because it would just sign back in April. [0:32:09, 0:32:18]: And so that means it would be less than a year if we if it expires uh in December. And so again, um as the department head. [0:32:19, 0:32:26]: Uh in community development, uh she recommended that this item be removed. So that was going to be my first motion. [0:32:26, 0:32:31]: uh when you asked to approve uh of the agenda. That was gonna be my first motion. [0:32:32, 0:32:33]: Secondly [0:32:33, 0:32:47]: Um, it is correct that yes, we did approve of a consent agenda, but as the mayor pro tem indicated, coming forward to this meeting, in order for the consent agenda to be to be approved, yes, we all have to agree with that. [0:32:48, 0:32:54]: But I do have issues and I do have question. Now the motion that was made to include [0:32:54, 0:32:55]: Um [0:32:55, 0:33:09]: the other agenda items outside of what was already stated for the consent agenda, I I have questions. So I would not approve of those other agenda items going into consent because I I I have questions. [0:33:09, 0:33:14]: Okay, thank you. Okay, I appreciate that. Mm Ms. Barber, back to you now. [0:33:14, 0:33:16]: Okay. Well I was gonna tell um [0:33:16, 0:33:21]: Councilman Thomas is if he wants me to add to my motion. [0:33:22, 0:33:25]: Um that language as a condition, I will do that. [0:33:26, 0:33:30]: In addition to removing specific items [0:33:30, 0:33:31]: And a new business. [0:33:32, 0:33:33]: Ревін сертон. [0:33:34, 0:33:36]: Um from the consent agenda. [0:33:36, 0:33:37]: I'm okay with that. [0:33:37, 0:33:40]: Um, I just didn't want us to have to go. [0:33:40, 0:33:42]: Контракт бат. [0:33:43, 0:33:44]: and approving them. [0:33:44, 0:33:45]: Secondly [0:33:46, 0:33:48]: When this agenda was sent to the council. [0:33:49, 0:33:50]: It was piecemealed. [0:33:50, 0:33:51]: To us. [0:33:52, 0:33:53]: Three separate emails. [0:33:54, 0:33:57]: With various supporting documents. [0:33:58, 0:34:00]: We didn't need the RP. [0:34:01, 0:34:04]: Nine hundred pages of the RP. [0:34:05, 0:34:07]: What we needed was a contract. [0:34:07, 0:34:09]: Because that is what is before us. [0:34:10, 0:34:13]: What is before the council is whether or not [0:34:13, 0:34:15]: To extend [0:34:15, 0:34:17]: the existing contract. [0:34:17, 0:34:20]: Councilman Thomas is absolutely correct. [0:34:21, 0:34:23]: Whether or not the department head [0:34:24, 0:34:26]: Is okay with not. [0:34:26, 0:34:28]: renewing the contract. [0:34:29, 0:34:30]: That's their decision. [0:34:30, 0:34:31]: We're the governing body. [0:34:32, 0:34:34]: We get to make the final decision. [0:34:35, 0:34:36]: And to drop this in my lap. [0:34:37, 0:34:43]: In December, when the contract is going to expire in two weeks, is unacceptable. [0:34:45, 0:34:47]: Staff needs to do their due diligence. [0:34:48, 0:34:49]: Six months out. [0:34:49, 0:34:52]: Before they know a contract is going to expire. [0:34:52, 0:34:55]: There has to be criteria in place. [0:34:55, 0:34:56]: So that they know. [0:34:56, 0:34:59]: Which contracts need to go back out for bid? [0:35:00, 0:35:01]: Um, for instance. [0:35:02, 0:35:03]: One of these contracts. [0:35:03, 0:35:06]: The council approved in twenty sixteen. [0:35:08, 0:35:09]: It's the name of a contract. [0:35:09, 0:35:11]: You all have been renewing it. [0:35:11, 0:35:12]: Every year. [0:35:12, 0:35:13]: Since then. [0:35:15, 0:35:16]: That's not best practice. [0:35:18, 0:35:21]: I'm okay with one or two renewals of a contract. [0:35:21, 0:35:25]: But when it's four and five renewals. [0:35:25, 0:35:26]: That's an issue. [0:35:27, 0:35:28]: Those [0:35:28, 0:35:31]: other points that I'm trying to get us back on track. [0:35:32, 0:35:34]: Or trying to get us on track. [0:35:35, 0:35:38]: Every single meeting when there is a contract on the agenda. [0:35:39, 0:35:41]: I end up asking a whole lot of questions. [0:35:41, 0:35:43]: Because I'm not providing with the information. [0:35:43, 0:35:47]: That I need in order to make a decision as a member of the governing body. [0:35:49, 0:35:53]: When it comes to contract renewals, all I'm asking. [0:35:53, 0:35:55]: It on the consent agenda. [0:35:56, 0:35:59]: Councilman Thomas, you want to remove [0:36:00, 0:36:03]: Um which of these items on the consent agenda? [0:36:03, 0:36:05]: Did you want to remove? [0:36:05, 0:36:08]: Mayor Ford, if if if I'm able to respond to that. [0:36:09, 0:36:14]: Uh my recommendation would be Councilwoman Bar would be to remove your motion. [0:36:15, 0:36:20]: Uh and and let's just go forward as Councilman Blount said, let's just go through the agenda because [0:36:20, 0:36:21]: Um [0:36:21, 0:36:25]: That I do have a motion I think that would clear up. [0:36:25, 0:36:32]: Um, the same concern that you have, Castle Woman Barber, if I'm allowed to make this motion, I think it would clear up. [0:36:33, 0:36:37]: Um your concerns, you know, I hadn't had a chance to talk to anyone about this. [0:36:38, 0:36:56]: But I think if I'm if I'm able and allowed to make the motion, then I think it clears up. I'll withdraw my motion. Oh okay. Motion's withdrawal. Cause I was gonna ask for a second. If it, you know, well but motion you withdraw your motion. Okay, fantastic. Now I need a motion to accept the agenda as written, please. Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. [0:36:58, 0:36:59]: I'm motion. [0:37:00, 0:37:03]: To remove agenda item seventeen. [0:37:04, 0:37:09]: on the new business, building inspection service, uh safe built. [0:37:09, 0:37:14]: Georgia LLC recommended by community development. [0:37:14, 0:37:15]: Um [0:37:15, 0:37:20]: In the packet that we receive, this contract was made in April. [0:37:21, 0:37:33]: uh December in which we just received uh the packet just a few weeks ago. So according to what's in the packet, this contract expires in December 31st. [0:37:33, 0:37:36]: Uh I come to find out that that is not correct. [0:37:37, 0:37:40]: Uh it ex it is due to expire in April. [0:37:41, 0:37:41]: So [0:37:42, 0:37:49]: That that's the motion to to remove that. I do have a separate motion for the consent agenda, but I thought you were going to take. [0:37:50, 0:37:51]: Um [0:37:51, 0:37:52]: The [0:37:52, 0:37:54]: Overall agenda first. [0:37:54, 0:37:59]: And then come back and ask for the uh consent agenda. But [0:37:59, 0:38:16]: No, actually, sir, I was gonna ask for actually what I need to ask for is there an amendments to to the agenda uh or not. So you're making one amendment and we can vote we can get a second to vote on that and see whether that approves. And then if there's another one uh individual mo uh motion for a change, we do that and then we'll go and and uh approve the whole thing. [0:38:17, 0:38:26]: So if you were talking about item number 17, is there a second to item number 17? A motion second to that motion. Ms. Gantt seconds that motion. Okay. [0:38:27, 0:38:28]: Uh Mayor. [0:38:31, 0:38:31]: Yeah. [0:38:32, 0:38:52]: Yes, Mr. Well, the statement um was not accurate. I did have a chance to speak with um Brecca um and the contract does not expire in April. The reason you have the RFP as well as the um executed contract is because the executed contract lists the [0:38:52, 0:39:12]: RFP as an exhibit. So when you review the the RFP, the RFP specifies the renewal of the contract. If you look in the RFP, you'll see where it shows where every contract, where it with the date and um and month and year that it expires. So on safe build. [0:39:12, 0:39:32]: Although Safe Bill was executed on April, which I did explain to Breca, when you look at the RFP, which is an exhibit to the contract, the contract expires December and it spells out every renewal based on the physical year of the city and the state of Georgia's statute. [0:39:32, 0:39:39]: So the contract does not expire in April. The contract expires in December, as I um explained to you, Brecca. [0:39:40, 0:39:41]: Mayor. [0:39:42, 0:39:43]: Yes, man. [0:39:43, 0:39:53]: If that is the case, I would remove my um second. However, our attorney should be able to review that contract. All the contracts are right behind the agenda item. [0:39:53, 0:40:04]: Um and of course we don't have to redraw a contract because when you renew it automatically um stage in effect this the original contract. [0:40:04, 0:40:08]: So if the attorneys are if they can look at the date. [0:40:08, 0:40:15]: Um but there's a clause there basically stating when this contract was to begin, it's gonna have it in there. Then that's what I'm gonna go buy. [0:40:16, 0:40:25]: Um all right. If I can get back to a question, great. Council Member Gan, I I did discuss that with Ms. Miller today and I I'm not sure that we're on the same page. [0:40:26, 0:40:27]: All right. [0:40:27, 0:40:47]: Uh Ms. Gantt, since you withdrew your second, Mr. Thomas, you still have a motion. Wait, wait. I was going to ask uh only that was a stipulation from Councilwoman Gantt only if the I if that was correct or not. So yes, is it is it correct? Jer so uh Jeremy, you think that the contract um renews in April or [0:40:47, 0:40:50]: in uh December. You guys are legal. [0:40:52, 0:41:01]: The contract was signed in April and it says it's for one year and then they're one year extensions. And and Ms. Miller and I talked about that this morning, that the RFP [0:41:02, 0:41:03]: Contemplate [0:41:03, 0:41:10]: based on the fiscal year, but the language of the contract itself says for a from April for one year. [0:41:10, 0:41:18]: So I said we need to clarify this because if I was the contractor reading this on the other side, I would say that's for one year, not for eight months. [0:41:19, 0:41:23]: So my question is, when did Safefield begin working for the city of Stockbridge? [0:41:23, 0:41:24]: April of this year. [0:41:25, 0:41:29]: Okay, I consider that one year April. So I second the motion. [0:41:31, 0:41:34]: All right. Motion's been made to remove safe build from the [0:41:35, 0:41:38]: From uh the uh agenda item. [0:41:38, 0:41:40]: Further discussion. [0:41:41, 0:41:42]: All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:41:44, 0:41:58]: Okay, it looks like there's now a sustain okay. May I you asked for further discussion. I don't know if you can see my hand. I I did not see your hand, sir. I I I I I I just want to say because we we're gonna go forward with with with whatever is getting ready to happen now. [0:41:59, 0:42:03]: Um we've been into this meeting at l like I say again, 40 minutes. [0:42:05, 0:42:06]: And one of the things that [0:42:07, 0:42:09]: We all have to look at and understand. [0:42:10, 0:42:13]: Every question is being asked tonight. [0:42:14, 0:42:18]: Could have been asked prior to this meeting. Every concern tonight. [0:42:19, 0:42:21]: Could have been done prior to this meeting. [0:42:22, 0:42:23]: When we have new [0:42:23, 0:42:24]: information [0:42:25, 0:42:35]: in this meeting, then I understand new discussions, but nothing's that's on this agenda is brand new and they could have been discussed prior to now. [0:42:35, 0:42:43]: And when we talk about a motion to remove something from a consent agenda, that's an exception to the rule because that's new. [0:42:43, 0:42:48]: But if any information needs to be adhered to or talked about [0:42:48, 0:42:51]: This stuff is before us before tonight. [0:42:52, 0:42:56]: We're we're we're we're we're forty minutes into this meeting. [0:42:56, 0:43:02]: And we haven't done one thing other than discuss what could have been discussed prior to this meeting. [0:43:02, 0:43:05]: We gotta be better about the citizens' business than this. [0:43:06, 0:43:07]: Okay. [0:43:07, 0:43:09]: All right, so the most been made, been seconded. [0:43:09, 0:43:10]: I mean [0:43:11, 0:43:12]: Yes, go ahead, sir. [0:43:14, 0:43:20]: Mayor, th this is this is what I say to that. I I don't have a problem with us working. [0:43:21, 0:43:22]: To be more efficient. [0:43:23, 0:43:25]: and effective in what we do. [0:43:25, 0:43:34]: Uh, we have to go through these growing pains to make sure that we are efficient and effective. [0:43:34, 0:43:36]: Now I will say that [0:43:36, 0:43:40]: We just received the agenda items. Um what [0:43:40, 0:43:42]: A week ago. [0:43:42, 0:43:49]: Oh whatever. So therefore we didn't really know the language until we actually got into the book. [0:43:49, 0:44:07]: But the motion that I'm getting ready to make goes back to something that I spoke to two months ago. So that's that's that's it for my comments. So if I may move forward with my other motion, I just want to say that for we need to vote. We need to make sure we got a vote on the first one you mentioned. [0:44:07, 0:44:18]: I I thought it I thought everybody voted. But anyway, go ahead, sir. Call for the vote. Okay. Okay. Ms. Barber, are you voting or you have something else you need to add here? Okay. For all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:44:18, 0:44:19]: All right. [0:44:19, 0:44:23]: And it's you MCC, okay, fine. So number 17 comes off. [0:44:23, 0:44:37]: Congratulations, Ms. Johnson. Now, um, Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. Do you have an additional motion for the agenda? For the consent, for the consent agenda. Yes. I motion to amend. [0:44:38, 0:44:41]: The contract of Falcon Engineering [0:44:42, 0:44:43]: Cod and slow. [0:44:44, 0:44:46]: Inadale and Kekin Woods. [0:44:46, 0:44:48]: To include [0:44:49, 0:44:50]: Quarterly [0:44:50, 0:44:52]: Project updates. [0:44:52, 0:44:54]: With timelines. [0:44:55, 0:44:56]: Project status [0:44:57, 0:44:59]: As stated in the November [0:45:00, 0:45:03]: eighth twenty twenty one meeting. [0:45:05, 0:45:06]: A second. [0:45:06, 0:45:07]: Yeah. [0:45:08, 0:45:13]: All right. This Ms. Gantt got the second there. All right. All in favor, please indicate. [0:45:15, 0:45:17]: I'll I'll pose you my pose. [0:45:19, 0:45:20]: Abstain? Amen. [0:45:21, 0:45:21]: Excuse me? [0:45:21, 0:45:22]: Comments? [0:45:24, 0:45:25]: Okay. [0:45:25, 0:45:26]: You have a comment? [0:45:26, 0:45:27]: I do. [0:45:27, 0:45:28]: Go right here, please. [0:45:28, 0:45:29]: Okay. [0:45:29, 0:45:30]: Um [0:45:34, 0:45:35]: So [0:45:35, 0:45:39]: For the Falcon Inc. Design Consultant Services. [0:45:40, 0:45:43]: Was that a contract that was approved by council? [0:45:43, 0:45:44]: With an award. [0:45:45, 0:45:46]: In twenty sixteen. [0:45:49, 0:45:50]: Mr. Wiggins. [0:45:53, 0:45:54]: Yes, it was approved. [0:45:54, 0:45:55]: Back in sixteen. [0:45:56, 0:45:59]: Okay, so since then we've been just extending it. [0:46:00, 0:46:00]: Every year. [0:46:03, 0:46:04]: Correct. [0:46:04, 0:46:06]: I'll have a check and see. Um [0:46:07, 0:46:08]: Okay. [0:46:08, 0:46:13]: Thinking then is that is that a three, three year uh then after that it will renew every year. [0:46:14, 0:46:31]: Um as as you can recall, um when Mr. Knighton was here, uh we had the discussion back in January, February, March, April, May, and June. The contract had no renewals remaining. The issue before council was the fact that there was no issue, there was no um [0:46:31, 0:46:37]: No renewals remaining, however, they had 19 projects pending. [0:46:37, 0:46:48]: So when you look at the agenda, the agenda explains that there's no renewals remaining on this contract. However, because they have 19 projects pending, we needed a decision from Mr. Knighton. [0:46:49, 0:46:54]: as to whether we should go out to bid or not. That decision was never made. [0:46:54, 0:46:59]: So now we're at the situ case where we do have no renewals remaining. [0:46:59, 0:47:07]: Council has to make the decision whether to approve the contract on a one-year agreement or not. [0:47:07, 0:47:11]: The fact is that they still have 19 projects pending. [0:47:11, 0:47:25]: Okay. So hold on folks. One of time. Hold on. Miss Barber, finish your time. Can I finish my comments? Stand folks stand by. Stand by please. Miss Barber, go ahead, please. Thank you. [0:47:26, 0:47:27]: So with knowing that [0:47:28, 0:47:29]: We know. [0:47:29, 0:47:32]: that we've been just renewing this contract. [0:47:32, 0:47:39]: Um, at least it's had at least one or two extensions. This is a contract that was awarded in 2016. [0:47:39, 0:47:44]: When I looked at the RFP because there was no contract. [0:47:45, 0:47:46]: That I could find. [0:47:47, 0:47:48]: in our email or our packet. [0:47:49, 0:47:52]: It mentions that the award of this contract. [0:47:53, 0:47:55]: The council could award it to multiple. [0:47:55, 0:47:56]: Suppliers. [0:47:57, 0:47:58]: So there was no need. [0:47:58, 0:48:02]: for us to just rely on one contractor. [0:48:03, 0:48:04]: It's not best practice. [0:48:05, 0:48:08]: To put all of our eggs in one basket. [0:48:08, 0:48:12]: Now we have Falcon Design, who has 19 projects. [0:48:14, 0:48:18]: we should be able to make an award to multiple contractors. [0:48:19, 0:48:23]: For this I will oppose. Um I will oppose it. [0:48:23, 0:48:24]: Because [0:48:24, 0:48:26]: I don't want to extend what I [0:48:27, 0:48:33]: If I approve this extension, it will be with a condition of rebidding it. [0:48:36, 0:48:40]: That's the only thing I'll approve it. Stand by folks. Stand by. Mr. Wiggins, please. [0:48:41, 0:48:50]: Yes, uh and and and that and that's the case after this. If you you go ahead and extend this one more year, it has to go out to bed. [0:48:50, 0:48:51]: Just like the rest of'em. [0:48:53, 0:48:55]: Okay, thank you. [0:48:55, 0:49:00]: That's me added to the motion. Okay. Mr. Thomas, go ahead, sir. [0:49:00, 0:49:03]: The second part of my original motion was [0:49:04, 0:49:05]: A motion to [0:49:05, 0:49:07]: Approve [0:49:07, 0:49:09]: І міді юс [0:49:09, 0:49:13]: Of the city of Stockbridge contract template. [0:49:14, 0:49:16]: To be provided to the governing body. [0:49:17, 0:49:20]: In advance of request. [0:49:20, 0:49:22]: For approval. [0:49:22, 0:49:25]: To award all future contracts. [0:49:26, 0:49:31]: With language and content that protects the city. [0:49:32, 0:49:41]: Okay, sir, but I want to make sure I want to make sure that the the the the first motion you made dealt with safe safe bright. You just made another motion in reference to Edison. [0:49:42, 0:49:43]: No. [0:49:43, 0:49:48]: What not the the the first part it was the first part of the motion was to [0:49:49, 0:50:09]: uh amend the contract of Falcon et cetera et cetera for the quarterly updates that was okay i want to get back to that for a second sir and i second that so are y'all second that okay okay i have that i have that okay that's so now let's what let's vote on that let's vote on that one all right we voted didn't we no no we did not vote on that we did not vote [0:50:09, 0:50:12]: All in favor, all in favor, please indicate. [0:50:14, 0:50:21]: He was naming conditions. But okay, hold a second. So uh Miss Barber, uh are you f for or against or sustain? [0:50:22, 0:50:25]: I need for Councilman Thomas. [0:50:25, 0:50:30]: to again share what the conditions are to this motion. [0:50:30, 0:50:30]: We [0:50:31, 0:50:38]: The conditions dealt with the doing the quarterly updates is what it what they're dealt with for each one of those three. [0:50:38, 0:50:42]: Of those particular contracts for item seven [0:50:42, 0:50:45]: Seven, eight, and nine. [0:50:46, 0:50:50]: And ten. And ten. And ten. And ten. On the consent data. [0:50:51, 0:50:54]: So I need for him to finish the conditions. [0:50:54, 0:50:55]: What? [0:50:56, 0:51:04]: No, no, no, no, ma'am. What it is is that we vote we we we've made a motion to change that. We're voting on that particular motion. Now he has another one to add to that. Okay. [0:51:04, 0:51:08]: That's what we're doing. Well it with conditions. [0:51:09, 0:51:10]: Mm-hmm. [0:51:11, 0:51:13]: Do you want me to read the condition? [0:51:13, 0:51:22]: Get any condition one more time. We'll take one more vote. Okay, so Councilman Thomas motion to amend the the consent agenda. [0:51:23, 0:51:35]: Whereas the contracts for Falcon, Carter and Sloop, Interdev, and Kekinwood would include status update for the projects and timelines. [0:51:36, 0:51:54]: and quarterly reports that needs to be added to their contracts. That's what the motion was seconded by councilwoman. Second by councilwoman Gantt. All in favor of all you've already voted, Mayor. Okay. Well stand by sir. No, we haven't stand by stand by please. All in favor of that motion, please indicate. [0:51:55, 0:52:01]: One more time. All right. So you now decision. Now now, Mr. Thomas, back to you for the third. No, that wasn't Miss G Miss Barber did not vote. [0:52:02, 0:52:05]: You did not vote? You you were sustained? [0:52:05, 0:52:06]: You abstained? [0:52:07, 0:52:08]: What did you do? [0:52:09, 0:52:15]: So I wanna ask Council. Stop stop stop. Did you vote or did you sustain? [0:52:15, 0:52:24]: No, which one did you do? What I'm asking is if councilman Thomas he's already the motion's passed motion has passed. [0:52:24, 0:52:26]: Will you add that to your motion? [0:52:26, 0:52:33]: Task staff to rebid all of these these three con these four contracts. [0:52:34, 0:52:35]: Test F. [0:52:35, 0:52:37]: To send these back out. [0:52:37, 0:52:38]: For we did. [0:52:40, 0:52:41]: That is not included in this motion. [0:52:42, 0:52:50]: Well, that's up to him to make that motion. Stand by a sec. On the previous motion, did you uh abstain or did you dec uh say no? [0:52:51, 0:52:56]: Ms. Barber? If he would add this conclusion, Ms. Barber, answer the question, Ms. Barber. [0:52:57, 0:52:59]: If he would add that condition, I will approve it. [0:53:00, 0:53:02]: Fit we've got to finish this particular piece of this. [0:53:02, 0:53:11]: Did you sustain? Are you adding another condition? Or no, not right now we're not items, Councilman Thomas. May Mayor Ford, may I respond? [0:53:11, 0:53:16]: Go ahead, sir. And I and I'm trying Mayor and I I'm trying to move this along. I'm I'm trying to [0:53:17, 0:53:19]: I'm trying to get an understanding. [0:53:20, 0:53:22]: On Mrs. Barber contention to [0:53:23, 0:53:27]: Um to put these back out for rebuilding. Is that correct? [0:53:28, 0:53:29]: Yes. [0:53:31, 0:53:33]: to put them out for rebid when? [0:53:35, 0:53:36]: Next year. [0:53:39, 0:53:43]: And and when what when the when they re when they expire? [0:53:44, 0:53:46]: Trying to make barring. [0:53:46, 0:53:48]: But can we do that at that time? [0:53:49, 0:53:53]: No, sir, because staff needs to know ahead of time. [0:53:54, 0:53:55]: To rebid these. [0:53:56, 0:53:59]: Otherwise we'll find ourselves in the same situation. [0:53:59, 0:54:01]: as we are right now. [0:54:02, 0:54:07]: Okay, Map for I I do not have a problem in adding that language. [0:54:07, 0:54:09]: to my motion if [0:54:11, 0:54:15]: I mean if if I I don't have a problem with that. If if that needs to be [0:54:15, 0:54:16]: I don't have a problem with that. [0:54:17, 0:54:20]: But I just I'm I'm trying to understand, I'm trying to move along. [0:54:20, 0:54:25]: See my contention going back to November was the fact that for the updates. [0:54:25, 0:54:31]: And and I spoke to you, you the mayor and and the attorney. So that's all I was trying to accomplish here tonight. [0:54:32, 0:54:32]: Um [0:54:33, 0:54:53]: And and we and we I will say we've accomplished that. I've talked to uh the attorney about that. That's why I did this earlier in the in the meeting. So you we've had that part of that motion and all actually out the motion passed. Okay. It passed regardless, it passed. Now unless you want and and I guess I'll have to figure if you want to go back and amend a motion that's already passed. [0:54:53, 0:55:01]: I would imagine by you being an initiator of that motion, you could probably do that by Roberts Rule. But if it's already passed, what with your previous project. [0:55:02, 0:55:05]: Okay. I will add to my motion. [0:55:05, 0:55:05]: Mm-hmm. [0:55:07, 0:55:09]: I I I yield to to [0:55:09, 0:55:13]: Ms. Gang, go ahead, please. Thank you. Um [0:55:13, 0:55:17]: Councilman Thomas, if you don't mind, you can make a separate motion. [0:55:18, 0:55:19]: Um [0:55:19, 0:55:25]: And we've already voted on this and it made sense. We've asked for quarterly reports. [0:55:25, 0:55:30]: And we voted on it. Um, the majority of council has voted for that. [0:55:31, 0:55:51]: If we want right now we are bearing off of our agenda all the way we're doing policies and procedures for procurement again, even after we had our attorneys in the past go and write up their recommendations on the way our procedures for procurement should be. [0:55:51, 0:55:51]: [3352.2, 3353.9]: We hire the best. [0:55:54, 0:56:08]: Um Memphis talks about it all the time. Our HR and our and our staff and our city manager, when they do their interviews for procurement and for any other department, they hire the best. They make sure that those people are qualified and they know what to do. [0:56:09, 0:56:14]: Right now we have went from we've went far left from our agenda. [0:56:15, 0:56:24]: And I agree with you, um Councilman Thomas. We did discuss this and asked for quarterly. You amended that to be a part of the consent. [0:56:24, 0:56:40]: Everybody has agreed upon that. Now we can go, I don't say amend and take off from the agenda. My recommendation is if you want to add another additional item to the agenda, just make a motion to do that if there's something else you want to bring up. That's it. [0:56:41, 0:56:46]: Because right now we are going around in circles. We've already voted for that and we're all agreeing to it. [0:56:48, 0:56:53]: Okay. Uh Mayor Ford in in an attempt to just move forward. [0:56:53, 0:56:55]: I like to um [0:56:56, 0:56:59]: amend and add to to that motion to [0:56:59, 0:57:09]: Um and I don't know how to make this motion, but to uh test staff to uh put these bids back out uh in in in one year. [0:57:10, 0:57:16]: Second. Okay. April tempt second that. Mr. Blount, you had some discussion, sir. [0:57:17, 0:57:21]: Uh thank you, man. Jeremy, correct me if I'm wrong. [0:57:22, 0:57:24]: Whatever без дайна. [0:57:25, 0:57:26]: For a year. [0:57:26, 0:57:33]: They go back out in a year anyway without the without another motion to do that. That's [0:57:33, 0:57:40]: We've already those bids go back out anyway. They're not an automatic renewal. We've already said that. [0:57:40, 0:57:47]: Correct. The contracts need to be renewed by council in a year. Anyway, so what are we voting on? [0:57:48, 0:57:51]: This it I'm saying we're prolonging this meeting. [0:57:51, 0:58:11]: offers offer this stuff and this this happens anyway, people. Why don't we start the meeting and do what we're supposed to do and be about the people's business instead of trying to run one department when the procedure that we're voting on is already in place? It makes no sense. Oh so Mayor Ford, let me ask uh Mr. Bear, would you recommend I just with [0:58:11, 0:58:14]: draw that last part because it happens anyway. [0:58:19, 0:58:20]: Mr. Beer. [0:58:21, 0:58:23]: Sorry, it took me a second to unmute. [0:58:23, 0:58:24]: I mean I I I would think [0:58:25, 0:58:26]: Right. [0:58:27, 0:58:29]: A contract has to come back to council. [0:58:29, 0:58:35]: at the anniversary date, whenever that is, for renewal, or to decide to put it back out to bid. [0:58:36, 0:58:41]: Perhaps there could be a resolution or something a different resolution that says [0:58:41, 0:58:43]: You know, that y'all want information. [0:58:44, 0:58:52]: Four months, six months, whatever it is before contract renewal to decide up or down whether you want to proceed, whether the council wants to proceed. [0:58:52, 0:58:55]: with renewal or putting it back out to bid. [0:58:55, 0:59:00]: So I'm not sure if exactly if I answered your question. I I guess I'm sort of procedurally confused where we are right now. [0:59:01, 0:59:03]: Uh yeah uh [0:59:03, 0:59:07]: I will withdraw that particular motion, Mayor Ford. [0:59:08, 0:59:28]: All right. And I'll and I'll just move forward. I think at some point we're going to have to come back and ask for that, which you just stated about uh uh an advanced notice to for the renewal. So the second part of my motion, Mayor, if I may, so we can try to get through uh motion to approve immediate use of the city. [0:59:28, 0:59:30]: [3570.8, 3574.1]: To provide to the governing body in advance. [0:59:34, 0:59:36]: of request for approval. [0:59:37, 0:59:43]: to award all future contract with language and content that protects the city. [0:59:44, 0:59:47]: Um and from my understanding that is a template. [0:59:48, 0:59:50]: Uh for contracts. [0:59:50, 0:59:56]: And I'm my motion is for us to use that template going forward for all future contracts. [0:59:56, 1:00:07]: All right. Is there a second to that motion? Is there a second? Sir. May I put them second to that motion? All right. Mayor go. Yes, what's your question, sir? Go ahead, please. [1:00:08, 1:00:18]: When we talk about templates, are we talking about procurement templates that would probably have information that the governing elected body shouldn't get prior to? [1:00:18, 1:00:33]: certain steps in that template. This is where I'm getting kind of confused at because when we discussed this earlier on in the year, we talked about procedures that should not go to the governing body, the elected body, prior to [1:00:34, 1:00:39]: Uh the finalizing of certain procedures and policies pertaining to contracts. [1:00:40, 1:00:51]: Jeremy, where are we what are we actually voting on here? Because this comes in contradictory of what we were told earlier by you and and other people when it came to contracts and and and uh [1:00:51, 1:01:01]: Not actually having those contracts unveiled and unfolded and given to the elective body prior to other procedures being done before those contracts are awarded. Uh Mr. Jeremy, Berry? [1:01:02, 1:01:12]: Councilmember Blount, I right. The recommendation I made before was for an actual pending contract to decide some period of time, four months, six months, whatever it is, three months. [1:01:13, 1:01:18]: before renewal, whether to renew the contract or put it back out to bid. [1:01:18, 1:01:19]: I was [1:01:20, 1:01:26]: I I think that's fine. That is the role of council. Maybe what we were thinking about before is [1:01:26, 1:01:33]: Council should not get to decide winners and losers in terms of companies A, B, and C bid. We council want B. [1:01:34, 1:01:35]: That that's not [1:01:35, 1:01:40]: Council's role, that's more that's appropriate for the procurement department to run the procurement. [1:01:40, 1:01:43]: But it's certainly within councils uh [1:01:43, 1:01:49]: you know, jurisdiction to say, yes, we want to proceed with such and such company or we want to put this back out to bid. [1:01:50, 1:01:53]: Well, a follow up to that then, if you would, Mayor. [1:01:53, 1:02:13]: When we start to now get so far into procurement, when we start to say, okay, let's move forward with this company and that company, what is the then what is the grading process? Why would we have a grading process by those department heads in those areas? Now the council can decide when we move forward with this. We have to be careful and call. [1:02:13, 1:02:14]: After this. [1:02:14, 1:02:34]: When we start to move in these areas, Jeremy, because when you start to allow the elected body to decide to move forward with such companies or whatever companies, then the the grading or the uh uh the the grading process or those contracts can now look tainted or flawed because the elected body is now in the process saying. [1:02:34, 1:02:36]: who we're going to go forward with. [1:02:36, 1:02:42]: I council member, I I fully agree with you and there there's a a fine line or a gray area. [1:02:42, 1:02:46]: If a company's over budget, if they're behind schedule, if they're not doing a good job. [1:02:47, 1:02:52]: Or, you know, as council member uh barber said earlier, if someone's been in place for ten years. [1:02:52, 1:02:54]: You may just say it's time to put this back out on the street. [1:02:55, 1:02:56]: So there there's [1:02:57, 1:02:58]: But we're talking two different things, Jeremy. [1:02:59, 1:03:03]: If we're talking about not renewing someone's contract is one thing. [1:03:04, 1:03:16]: But the process that we're talking about putting in place that this this now elected body is involved in the procurement process or who moves forward in the process, we should not be a part of that. [1:03:17, 1:03:37]: Not the elected body, but the renewal of a contract or the continuation of a contract. We it's in our privilege to do that, but not to be involved in the in the process of saying which company in the procurement process that we want to move forward. That's we should not operate in gray areas. [1:03:37, 1:03:39]: When it comes to the elected body, it should be black and white. [1:03:40, 1:03:48]: Right. Understood. Understood, council member. And perhaps my my choice of words wasn't perfect. All I'm saying is in terms of picking if five companies bid. [1:03:48, 1:03:52]: And the evaluation committee recommends company number one. [1:03:52, 1:03:57]: That to me is different than okay, we the city have contracted with company number one. [1:03:57, 1:04:05]: And they've done a phenomenal job. Let's let them move forward. Or if the the right head of the agency, the correct head of the agency says, [1:04:05, 1:04:07]: No council, we should not proceed. [1:04:08, 1:04:12]: over budget. They've done a bad job. They're terrible to work with. [1:04:12, 1:04:19]: You know, they're they're bankrupt, whatever it is, that is entirely appropriate for the council to do because the council looking out [1:04:19, 1:04:22]: interest in the financial well being of the city. [1:04:22, 1:04:35]: So that's different than saying that pop that procedure is already in place. We as an elected body has the right to say right now who moves forward. Agree the things that I've done. I'm not disagreeing with you. [1:04:35, 1:04:40]: I I agree with you. I fully agree with you. But what are we doing? [1:04:41, 1:04:41]: All right. [1:04:42, 1:04:44]: We had we we've been sitting here a whole hour. [1:04:44, 1:04:55]: talking about policies and procedures that we already have in place. Let's get to this council meeting and be about the citizens' business. We're talking about things that are already in place. [1:04:55, 1:04:58]: Why we vote on something that we already had a right to do? [1:04:58, 1:05:01]: It makes no sense. [1:05:02, 1:05:03]: Never mind. [1:05:03, 1:05:12]: Ms. Barber, go ahead. Yes. Um my understanding, Councilman Thomas was simply asking about the standard language of the contract. [1:05:13, 1:05:13]: The template. [1:05:14, 1:05:15]: What's in black and white? [1:05:16, 1:05:18]: The template that is used. [1:05:18, 1:05:20]: For the executed contract. [1:05:20, 1:05:25]: This has nothing to do with evaluating and rating bids and proposals. [1:05:25, 1:05:29]: rankings of bids should not come to this council, but it did. [1:05:29, 1:05:31]: It should never come to this council. [1:05:31, 1:05:32]: Evaluating. [1:05:33, 1:05:37]: Any supplier or contractor is not the role of the governing body. [1:05:38, 1:05:40]: However, when it comes to the policies [1:05:41, 1:05:44]: of this city. That is our responsibility. [1:05:45, 1:05:48]: Councilman Thomas is speaking specifically about the [1:05:48, 1:05:52]: template of the contact language and I agree. [1:05:53, 1:05:55]: That's all. All right, Mr. Thomas. [1:05:55, 1:05:58]: Mr. Thomas, go ahead, sir. May I may have for [1:05:58, 1:06:01]: All I was attempting to do was to [1:06:02, 1:06:02]: Um [1:06:03, 1:06:07]: Make sure that with with with our contractors. [1:06:07, 1:06:11]: I thought it was important and I think going back to the November meeting. [1:06:11, 1:06:15]: I think it was clear to me, I'm not sure with anyone else, that we needed [1:06:16, 1:06:25]: Uh, the update. We needed that information in order for us to go forward. That's why for the last two months, I just insisted about the update. [1:06:25, 1:06:27]: And that's all I was attempting to do today. [1:06:28, 1:06:31]: Now and and that is a template in place. [1:06:32, 1:06:35]: Um to move the process forward. [1:06:35, 1:06:36]: So [1:06:37, 1:06:43]: Some of these comments are not what I am recommending and and it's not about my emotion. [1:06:43, 1:06:46]: So my motion is is clear cut. [1:06:46, 1:06:50]: And I think it's been second uh and it's been voted. [1:06:50, 1:06:58]: So no, no, it hasn't been voted on just yet. It's been you made a motion, Mayor Putin second that motion. How about this? All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:07:00, 1:07:01]: Okay. [1:07:02, 1:07:05]: Anybody all all approved? All right. Anybody oppose? [1:07:06, 1:07:07]: Abstain. [1:07:09, 1:07:10]: Mr. Blount, you should abstain. [1:07:11, 1:07:11]: Miss Gat. [1:07:12, 1:07:13]: That's funny. [1:07:13, 1:07:19]: Okay, so it's 302. All right. Now I need a motion for the overall agenda itself. [1:07:20, 1:07:22]: Uh I need a motion to accept the overall agenda itself. [1:07:23, 1:07:25]: Is there f is there a motion to [1:07:26, 1:07:32]: So move to something here. Anybody? So move. With all this. With all move is Gantt. Is there a second? [1:07:32, 1:07:35]: Certain. All right. All in favor, please indicate. [1:07:37, 1:07:40]: All right. Okay. Thank you. I think that was the answer. Okay. Now on that note. [1:07:41, 1:07:42]: We have [1:07:45, 1:07:47]: Ms. Holiday, do we have any public comments? [1:07:47, 1:07:57]: We have no public comments, Mayor. All right. We'll move on. And we've all we've got to the consent agenda. We've already done a motion for the consent agenda. Uh so I would say that um [1:07:58, 1:08:08]: We've added it to so it's a consent agenda with the additional that the item that we added in reference to the quarterly reports. Uh it's already been approved. So I would imagine we just got to go through this process one more time. [1:08:09, 1:08:14]: Is there a motion to accept uh everything on the over over on the agenda, uh consent agenda for this evening? [1:08:15, 1:08:16]: Mayor. Yes, sir. [1:08:17, 1:08:28]: Um I I I'll approve the consent agenda with the uh stipulations that I made it uh earlier with the motions. I protest second, all favor, please indicate. [1:08:31, 1:08:35]: Okay. Mr. Blount, I'm sorry. I you voted, sir. [1:08:36, 1:08:38]: Okay for Miss Ms. Barber. [1:08:38, 1:08:43]: I abstain and I'd like to add a comment, please. Okay, one second. Four zero one. What's your comment? [1:08:44, 1:08:45]: Okay. Um [1:08:45, 1:08:47]: My comment is [1:08:47, 1:08:49]: Staff needs to be directed. [1:08:50, 1:08:51]: To rebid. [1:08:51, 1:08:52]: These contracts. [1:08:53, 1:08:57]: Otherwise, we're gonna find ourselves in the same situation next year. [1:08:57, 1:08:58]: They'll be coming back to us. [1:08:59, 1:08:59]: Four. [1:09:00, 1:09:01]: Council consideration. [1:09:02, 1:09:03]: To extend. [1:09:04, 1:09:05]: The contract. [1:09:05, 1:09:06]: All I'm asking. [1:09:07, 1:09:09]: Is that we pass that. [1:09:09, 1:09:10]: Від критерія. [1:09:11, 1:09:13]: that they can use and we will know. [1:09:14, 1:09:17]: when these contracts are going back out for bid. [1:09:18, 1:09:25]: I understand the terms of every service and contract that the city has is different. [1:09:25, 1:09:30]: Some contracts, there are three-year terms. Some of them are annual. [1:09:30, 1:09:32]: Some are two years, some are five years. [1:09:33, 1:09:35]: We need to test staff. [1:09:35, 1:09:36]: Well [1:09:36, 1:09:38]: Putting these advertisements in [1:09:39, 1:09:39]: Back out. [1:09:40, 1:09:40]: Four B. [1:09:41, 1:09:45]: We've had contracts in place since 2016. [1:09:45, 1:09:49]: And we are stick contracts that were awarded in twenty sixteen. [1:09:50, 1:09:53]: that are still active and they have not gone back out. [1:09:53, 1:09:57]: To review it. That's all. So I'm upset. It's well noted. [1:10:00, 1:10:01]: It's been noted. Mr. Blount. [1:10:03, 1:10:06]: Mayor, when you're talking about contracts. [1:10:06, 1:10:09]: It's never one size fit all. [1:10:10, 1:10:12]: If you got a contractor doing a project. [1:10:13, 1:10:17]: And that contract is for a year, yet that project is extended. [1:10:18, 1:10:20]: We do not have to put it out for bid. [1:10:22, 1:10:24]: We only talked about an extension of that project. [1:10:25, 1:10:30]: This is not a one size fit all with all the stuff that we're doing here in the city of Stockbridge. [1:10:31, 1:10:42]: You can't just say you put all contracts out for bid and motion and that's in stone because it's each the it's not a one size fit all situation. [1:10:43, 1:10:44]: You can't do that. [1:10:46, 1:11:05]: All right, comment well noted. There's no old business. Public hearing. First public hearing. Will we deal with number 11? Rezoning case number RZ 2021-02 and comprehensive plan amendment case number CP two zero two one-zero two presented by Miss Logan. Miss Logan, please. [1:11:06, 1:11:20]: Uh Mayor Ford, if I may, this is uh Bradford Johnson. Uh the applicants withdrew their application but after we advertised for this meeting. So we did have to keep it on the agenda, but they have withdrawn their application at this time. [1:11:20, 1:11:21]: And uh [1:11:21, 1:11:29]: All right. So on that note, then uh my attorneys here, the attorneys if they if the applicant withdraw them, then it's no need to have a public hearing, correct? [1:11:30, 1:11:31]: Well. [1:11:31, 1:11:32]: All right. [1:11:32, 1:11:33]: So that [1:11:34, 1:11:39]: And no need to have public here, no need to vote. They withdrew. Do you have any idea when they're planning to come back? Or is already Ms. Johnson? [1:11:40, 1:11:46]: Um no, sir. They're actually awaiting the UDC to be adopted for the new code to come into place. All right. [1:11:47, 1:11:52]: What we have next to public hearing, third reading, and final adoption of FY 2022 operating budget. [1:11:52, 1:11:55]: Uh Mr. Wiggins, it's on you, sir. [1:11:56, 1:12:01]: Okay, thank you, Mayor. Um I'm gonna share my screen just to show the uh PowerPoint. [1:12:25, 1:12:28]: Can everyone see my PowerPoint? Yeah, see, can't see anything, sir. [1:12:28, 1:12:30]: I I see everybody here. Don't see your screen. [1:12:31, 1:12:32]: Okay. [1:12:32, 1:12:34]: Mr Bond, are you able to give him [1:12:35, 1:12:36]: Used to that screen. [1:12:37, 1:12:38]: Share screen there. [1:12:39, 1:12:40]: Yes, he has the ability. [1:12:41, 1:12:43]: There we go. I think we're we're okay. There we go. [1:12:46, 1:12:46]: Thank you, sir. [1:13:01, 1:13:02]: All right, everybody can see that. [1:13:02, 1:13:08]: Well yeah, well yeah, but uh is this uh you are you gonna click on a pr a presentation here? [1:13:09, 1:13:15]: We just see your files. Yeah, that's it. That's all we see. Oh, sorry. Sorry. You see all the files on your desktop. [1:13:15, 1:13:17]: Went went to the wrong screen. [1:13:18, 1:13:18]: Okay. [1:13:21, 1:13:21]: All right, how's that? [1:13:22, 1:13:23]: No. [1:13:24, 1:13:25]: May have a drag it over, John. [1:13:27, 1:13:27]: Are the [1:13:33, 1:13:33]: Well by now. [1:13:35, 1:13:42]: Still see your screen. I mean uh the files there, sir. To minimize that list, John. That uh list of files. Minimize it for him. [1:13:43, 1:13:43]: Gotcha. [1:13:50, 1:13:50]: Okay. [1:13:52, 1:13:53]: No, still still your files. [1:13:55, 1:13:55]: Okay. [1:14:01, 1:14:02]: Right. [1:14:03, 1:14:04]: I'm sorry, but yeah, I [1:14:14, 1:14:15]: I'm not sure why it's not. [1:14:27, 1:14:28]: Now can you see it? [1:14:29, 1:14:32]: Okay, now we okay. I think uh you got to uh [1:14:34, 1:14:38]: We can see it there, but uh you need to adjust it so we get a better look at it. [1:14:42, 1:14:43]: How's it? Is it weak enough? [1:14:45, 1:14:46]: Uh no no sir. Um [1:14:48, 1:14:54]: think you have to have to minimize it or something because get it all on the screen because we can't really get a whoa. [1:14:56, 1:14:57]: And that was that's not a [1:14:58, 1:14:58]: Okay. [1:14:59, 1:15:00]: Huh. [1:15:00, 1:15:01]: There you can see it, right? [1:15:02, 1:15:03]: That's uh that's a better look, yes sir. [1:15:04, 1:15:05]: Okay. [1:15:08, 1:15:09]: Family, okay. [1:15:12, 1:15:21]: All right, the city of Stockbridge proposed the FY 2022 budget hearing third reading for December 13th, 2021. [1:15:22, 1:15:24]: Uh as of now [1:15:25, 1:15:37]: There's no changes. We still have the same same numbers as the reading from the uh November 30th, second reading. We still have the general fund at uh 18. [1:15:37, 1:15:45]: Uh two, we got enterprise fund at 30 24.9, giving us a total of 43.1. [1:15:45, 1:15:46]: Million. [1:15:47, 1:15:50]: Um, we still have some of the same changes we had. [1:15:51, 1:15:52]: From the second budget. [1:15:53, 1:15:57]: Um re on the reading for November third that uh [1:15:57, 1:15:58]: For this particular reading. [1:15:58, 1:15:59]: No. [1:16:00, 1:16:02]: In in light of all that with this third reading. [1:16:03, 1:16:05]: There has been some um [1:16:06, 1:16:07]: Um [1:16:08, 1:16:09]: Some council um [1:16:10, 1:16:21]: budget recommendations that's been out there. Uh I think I emailed uh everybody a a some of the recommendations I think at this particular junction. [1:16:22, 1:16:22]: Uh [1:16:23, 1:16:25]: Can also need these two. [1:16:25, 1:16:26]: Uh [1:16:27, 1:16:29]: Direct staff or [1:16:29, 1:16:37]: Tell us to uh make the changes and you know for and if um if the lawyers can can um [1:16:38, 1:16:46]: If I'm going the right direction, we might have to have if they can't agree tonight on the particular recommendations from a discussion. [1:16:46, 1:16:51]: Probably need to probably have a special call meeting just to uh get the final adoption. [1:16:52, 1:17:12]: Well, let me ask you this, Mr. Wiggins. You sent out some recommendations that were discussed with some council members, and we need to try to go through that process and see if we have an agreement in reference to the rest of the entire council. And the and so whatever we do, it's got the the count, the budget has to it has to match. Everything has to match up properly. So the first bullet comment I saw that was [1:17:12, 1:17:31]: hundred thousand dollars in the budget for the North Henry Boulevard beautifications is what I saw on my my list. Is that correct? Yeah that's correct. Okay. So um how about we discuss this? Does that make sense, Council? Do you do you want to want wanna uh add that in there in the budget to make sure that we cover down on this beautification effort in North Henry Boulevard? [1:17:31, 1:17:33]: Some more [1:17:35, 1:17:36]: Zero second. [1:17:36, 1:17:37]: A second. [1:17:37, 1:17:39]: Any further discussion on that? [1:17:40, 1:17:42]: Mayor. Yes, sir. [1:17:43, 1:17:49]: Well uh when while approving these, I just want us to make sure and and I need to see. [1:17:49, 1:17:53]: Um where we are with the budget and where we're gonna be. [1:17:54, 1:17:56]: And the completion of this budget uh [1:17:57, 1:17:58]: I'm for a [1:17:58, 1:18:03]: uh monies for beautification, but I need to make sure [1:18:03, 1:18:03]: Uh [1:18:04, 1:18:06]: But Mr. Wiggins. [1:18:06, 1:18:19]: where we are and and where we're gonna go over budget that will have to be pulled from fund balance after all said and done. Because we're we're while we're proving monies, but the last adoption of this budget, because we're just now starting in it. [1:18:20, 1:18:25]: Now to discuss these items tonight. I just want to see where we are at the end. [1:18:25, 1:18:35]: of all the increases with the budget in order that we adopt uh the budget with what whatever increases is that will have to be pulled from other areas, including fund balance. [1:18:37, 1:18:38]: Okay. [1:18:38, 1:18:45]: Thanks. Mayor, you know. But right now that hundred thousand is already in the budget, so it's already balanced. [1:18:45, 1:18:51]: It's I'm fine with that. Then I'm good. I'm good. It's in the public works budget and they they have a uh it's accounted for. [1:18:52, 1:18:54]: All right. Any further questions? [1:18:54, 1:18:58]: I just want to make one one uh correction to what was said. [1:18:59, 1:19:01]: As Mr. Blount has indicated. [1:19:02, 1:19:05]: Everything that we've talked about has been available. [1:19:05, 1:19:08]: Out there, Mr. Wiggins sent this to us before the meeting. [1:19:09, 1:19:13]: And any questions could have been asked at that time. I think he made that point on a previous item. [1:19:14, 1:19:19]: And yes, on this item, the same thing applies. So if anybody had any questions. [1:19:19, 1:19:23]: We've had this is the third reading of the budget at this point. And we were all asked. [1:19:23, 1:19:25]: To submit our [1:19:25, 1:19:29]: uh suggestions. These were some of the suggestions that have been bandied around. [1:19:30, 1:19:41]: And um, you know, at this point, again, I'm glad that's already in the budget because we had discussed it previously and Mr. Wiggins put it in the budget, uh uh based on the council consensus. So I call for the vote. [1:19:41, 1:19:43]: Yes, ma'am. [1:19:43, 1:19:45]: I just want to know what's the total budget. [1:19:48, 1:19:51]: Mr. Wiggins will give us a total amount of our budget for next year. [1:19:52, 1:19:58]: As it's saying it would be forty three million one hundred ninety three thousand ninety six thousand fifty nine. [1:20:00, 1:20:05]: That's the total budget that's including your general fund and your enterprise funds. [1:20:09, 1:20:13]: So right now as it stands, we have a budget of forty three million dollars. [1:20:13, 1:20:14]: That's correct. [1:20:20, 1:20:23]: How much of that is gonna come from our fund balance? [1:20:26, 1:20:27]: Yeah. [1:20:30, 1:20:38]: Good question. Um what's gonna come from the fund balance is gonna be your CIP. And I think that's about 10 million of that. [1:20:40, 1:20:43]: That'll be in the prize phone. Oh my gosh. [1:20:45, 1:20:49]: Okay. I will be voting no to the budget. Thank you. [1:20:50, 1:20:55]: I don't I don't think that that is correct, Mr. Wiggins. I want you to look at that. I I don't believe that's correct. [1:20:56, 1:20:57]: But let's move on. [1:20:59, 1:21:05]: Therefore. Get the get the correct mr have Mr. Wiggins bring us the correct information because that's not it. [1:21:08, 1:21:10]: But let's vote on this item so we can move forward. [1:21:13, 1:21:17]: Mayor, I can't vote on any item if that budget is 43 million. [1:21:18, 1:21:24]: Let me just make it make um on on that 10 million that's part of the enterprise fund. [1:21:25, 1:21:30]: But look at looking at the CIP, uh, we're gonna have um [1:21:33, 1:21:34]: Please. [1:21:36, 1:21:41]: Most most of the uh the the fund balance is gonna be the [1:21:47, 1:22:01]: Look, it's uh I I need to make that correction. It's gonna look like it's gonna be about at least two million because right it's not it's certainly not gonna be ten. The only two was maybe for the police department. Maybe you got two because it's gonna be [1:22:01, 1:22:02]: Splash fire. [1:22:03, 1:22:15]: We still got some spots for it that we got that we that we're spending. And we're gonna have uh uh bond money that we're gonna use for the cultural arts center as as um [1:22:16, 1:22:19]: And that would take up most of our [1:22:19, 1:22:24]: the money from uh the CIP. So it's gonna be uh in the range of about two million. [1:22:24, 1:22:27]: Mr. Wiggins, the splos money had already been accounted for. [1:22:28, 1:22:36]: Yeah, the splash five, which we're using for squash five, they had already been accounted for, plus we bunded out money. [1:22:36, 1:22:40]: And we have we went from thirteen million dollar budget. [1:22:41, 1:22:45]: to a forty three million dollar budget, understanding that we're getting a police department. [1:22:46, 1:23:00]: But but I I just can't I can't vote for that. I'm sorry. I can't vote for anything with this budget. When you say total, you're you're when you say total, uh councilwoman, you you're talking about the total budget, which is including your enterprise funds. [1:23:00, 1:23:03]: Yeah. You just talking about the general fund. [1:23:03, 1:23:05]: Jump fund's gonna be AT meet. [1:23:05, 1:23:09]: Okay. One million of that is going to be police department. [1:23:10, 1:23:12]: Okay. How many million? [1:23:13, 1:23:17]: By four by four by four million is gonna be the beast be the police department. [1:23:18, 1:23:21]: By three by two, I'm sorry, three by three point three. [1:23:21, 1:23:22]: It's gonna be police department. [1:23:23, 1:23:23]: Okay. [1:23:26, 1:23:40]: And right now we're we're we're at the junction where we we're using for that some opera funds. Right. And and and some of that is gonna and and we are gonna have to use fund balance for that, but not as much. [1:23:41, 1:23:44]: What's your estimated amount for fund balance? [1:23:44, 1:23:48]: By the probably by the by the meaning for police department for fund balance. [1:23:48, 1:23:50]: Rest of it's gonna be ARPA funds. [1:23:51, 1:23:57]: And then once we do this for this upcoming year, the following years thereafter. [1:23:58, 1:24:08]: You're talking about the twenty twenty two budget. Point of order. Alexander, I didn't ask you for a dwarf. Point of order. Stand by. [1:24:09, 1:24:13]: It's financial responsibility. Good good. We're talking about year to year. [1:24:14, 1:24:20]: you know, w we will have to uh uh uh you know discuss that. [1:24:21, 1:24:26]: and and and and get with our financial advisor to look at it again because he's already told us that you know [1:24:27, 1:24:28]: Yeah, one [1:24:28, 1:24:28]: Міну [1:24:28, 1:24:30]: This first year [1:24:31, 1:24:31]: You know [1:24:32, 1:24:45]: going to that share, we're gonna probably have to do some type of tax. But right now, as you see, as you've seen, we're using ARPA funds and we got, we also have a a a bond for the police department, three, three million. [1:24:46, 1:24:48]: So right now [1:24:48, 1:24:54]: Three million will be taken care of any kind of capital, any kind of uh uh uh uh equipment for the police department. [1:24:55, 1:24:59]: ARPA funds we'll be able to uh uh use that for some of the [1:25:00, 1:25:02]: Operations now. So [1:25:02, 1:25:04]: You know, going from year to year. [1:25:07, 1:25:09]: That's kind of hard to discuss right now. [1:25:11, 1:25:11]: All right. [1:25:11, 1:25:23]: So we what we have the motion on the floor is for this one thing. This it point of order. That that is the motion on the floor. So let's just try to stay within that particular compound. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [1:25:24, 1:25:27]: Uh m Mr. Wiggins, yes. Um [1:25:27, 1:25:30]: What would probably help out a whole lot with these figures? [1:25:31, 1:25:45]: And and I agree in looking at other figures, but you don't have a slide that the citizens can see to back these figures. And if any question be answered, we can point to how we get to these figures and what we have to do. I'm just saying that. [1:25:45, 1:25:51]: Is the only slide we have showing the general fund, enterprise fund and the total. You don't have anything else for us? [1:25:53, 1:26:00]: I can pull up the budget that was sent out to everybody. We can go from um uh uh department to department. [1:26:02, 1:26:04]: No no, what I'm saying, Mr. Wiggins, is [1:26:05, 1:26:07]: I'm not talking about bringing the citizens. [1:26:07, 1:26:18]: An itemized budget that we get as a council and we go line by line. I'm talking about numbers of almost a bullet point from the budget to show. [1:26:18, 1:26:20]: Fund balance, what the increase has been, all the [1:26:21, 1:26:30]: This is not enough to show the citizens how we get here and how we come out of here because this looks like a detriment to any citizen that would look at this. [1:26:30, 1:26:31]: Mm. [1:26:32, 1:26:41]: It looks like a detriment to anybody that has a lack of understanding of what this is. When we talk about a budget that the city has incurred, which is about twelve million dollars. [1:26:41, 1:26:45]: And now that you're looking at a total now when you talk about forty three and you're talking about the eighty [1:26:46, 1:26:47]: I'm just talking about [1:26:47, 1:26:54]: Is there anything else we can show the citizens that wouldn't be alarmed by this other than this right here? [1:26:56, 1:26:58]: At this particular time I do not. [1:27:00, 1:27:15]: All right. Mr. Thomas, go ahead. Mayor Ford uh and Mr. Wiggins, uh I I had a discussion with Mr. Wiggins and and uh I'm just prepared tonight to make motions and one of my motions was gone. [1:27:16, 1:27:18]: Request uh the city treasury to [1:27:19, 1:27:22]: uh make um reports as well. [1:27:23, 1:27:27]: That would include uh Councilman Councilman Blount, some of your concerns. [1:27:28, 1:27:37]: But that that is going to be one of my motions whenever we get to that point. I was going to make that motion that will require the treasury to provide those kind of um [1:27:37, 1:27:45]: uh reports to to council. And then from that, whatever we wanted to show to citizens, then I I think that information will be there. [1:27:47, 1:27:54]: Okay. Uh well right now there is a motion on the floor in reference to the hundred thousand dollars for the budget for North Henry Boulevard beautification. [1:27:55, 1:27:56]: Right. Mayor Fort. [1:27:57, 1:27:57]: Yes, ma'am. [1:27:58, 1:28:08]: I'm not against the hundred thousand dollars beautification. I'm against the make the budget itself though. So I'll vote for the beautification because the money's already set aside. [1:28:09, 1:28:11]: And and we've talked about this for a long time. [1:28:12, 1:28:17]: But that forty three million, something's gonna have to be done. I don't think we're gonna have a balanced budget tonight. [1:28:18, 1:28:19]: Okay. [1:28:19, 1:28:37]: Well, if not any comments on this one issue, all in favor of the motion that's on the floor deals with$100,000 in uh reference to beautification. All in favor of that motion, please indicate. Okay, looks like I let me see here. Is that a unanimous decision? Let's see. Ms. Blount, you for that? Miss Barber to vote? [1:28:41, 1:28:49]: I can't see the members, Mayor. You'll have to let me know what the vote is. I'm waiting for Miss Barber, whether or not she's in favor or or against or s abstain. [1:28:50, 1:28:51]: What is the motion again? Sorry. [1:28:52, 1:28:57]: It deals with a hundred thousand dollars for the beautification for North North Henry Boulevard. [1:28:58, 1:29:03]: I second that motion or has it already been second? No, it's already been seconded. I just need to vote one way or the other. [1:29:04, 1:29:05]: You're for it. [1:29:06, 1:29:15]: Excuse me? I approve. Okay. Then it's you must a holiday so unanimous decision. Thank you. You're welcome. All right. Now, um [1:29:16, 1:29:36]: Back to you, Mr. Thomas. Uh, because there are several different there's uh in in front of me, I have about seven, eight more different things that are on this list that uh items that Mr. Wiggins sent out to everybody um in this aspect. And I was will more than willing to go down this particular list. And actually there's something on this list that I uh that [1:29:36, 1:29:51]: that uh I know that part of a conversation you and I were involved with was not on here and it dealt with the historical preservation in this aspect. I don't see it on this particular list. And I don't that was a concern of yours earlier, earlier conversation we had uh I think it was last week. [1:29:52, 1:29:52]: Um [1:29:53, 1:29:56]: Yes, um I I do have um [1:29:57, 1:30:00]: several motions and I also spoke with um [1:30:01, 1:30:04]: community de development direct uh about that very issue. [1:30:05, 1:30:12]: Mayor, if if if if you're granting me the floor, uh, I'd like to just make a statement and then I'd like to read a couple of motions, if I may. [1:30:13, 1:30:16]: Yep. No problem. That's why I came to you, sir. Go ahead, please. [1:30:16, 1:30:18]: You know, a few weeks ago council [1:30:19, 1:30:21]: I I sort of indicated that. [1:30:21, 1:30:25]: Every year I go through the budget and I see where there's a lot of fat. [1:30:26, 1:30:27]: And you know [1:30:28, 1:30:30]: What I saw was [1:30:30, 1:30:33]: uh a million and a half that we actually could have cut. [1:30:33, 1:30:34]: So [1:30:35, 1:30:40]: The attempt uh the other week to for us to be able to [1:30:40, 1:30:43]: communicate with the directors in sort of to [1:30:43, 1:30:52]: have them to explain a lot of that fact. That was that attempt. Unfortunately, you know, we we we didn't start that process early enough. [1:30:53, 1:31:13]: to allow all council members to actually to have these conversations with these directors. And I think if we could have sort of gone through that, I think everyone would probably uh wouldn't have been able to see um you know what I saw as far as the fact. And we can still do that, you know, going forward, even though I know we're scheduled to approve [1:31:13, 1:31:19]: This budget tonight. Um, but just in in what what I received back from [1:31:19, 1:31:23]: Um, you know, some of the council members I was prepared to [1:31:23, 1:31:27]: uh read some of these motions. But as I stated to Mr. Wiggins. [1:31:27, 1:31:47]: Um, and he he should have captured all of these things because I know community development made some concessions, uh, public works made some concessions. And Mr. Wigan, I don't know if you captured all of that, but there were some concessions made. Uh, but I do have about six or seven motions. [1:31:47, 1:31:50]: that I'm willing to make tonight just based on [1:31:51, 1:31:57]: Um what I've heard back from uh other council members. So mayor, I could run through these and [1:31:57, 1:31:59]: And we can have some discussion. [1:32:00, 1:32:02]: And and we can just sort of just go from there. [1:32:03, 1:32:06]: Go ahead, sir. Well let first let me ask Mr. Wiggins though. [1:32:07, 1:32:09]: Uh Mr. Wigan, I know you sent this out. [1:32:10, 1:32:16]: And you know, and I spoke with you earlier too, Mr. Wigan. You indicated that you were going to read these off. [1:32:16, 1:32:19]: And share uh with council. [1:32:19, 1:32:25]: and then we were going to have discussion and and vote. But I I'm just going to go ahead and just read mine. So [1:32:25, 1:32:33]: Uh oh Mr. Wigan, uh do you want to uh do you want to share that? Do you have it where you can't share it or do I need to just go ahead and read some of these? [1:32:34, 1:32:48]: Uh I can share the spreadsheets that I sent out there. Okay, well m Ms. Wick, let me just go ahead and read these and then if you want to weigh in, we'll just do that. And council, please uh weigh in because this is how we're going to approve or not approve. [1:32:48, 1:32:52]: uh some uh uh adjustment to the budget. So [1:32:53, 1:32:54]: Uh my first motion [1:32:55, 1:32:56]: Um [1:33:00, 1:33:03]: Motion to amend the city's twenty twenty two. [1:33:04, 1:33:06]: Pay and classification. [1:33:07, 1:33:09]: And incorporate a minimum [1:33:09, 1:33:12]: Liveable wage of fifteen dollars per hour. [1:33:13, 1:33:18]: and make the necessary adjustment to all affected employees' salary. [1:33:19, 1:33:21]: Second, second. [1:33:21, 1:33:41]: Well, ms Ms. Mayor, let me ask you this question. Do you want me just to read them? Do you want to take them one by one? Well, let's take no, let's take them one by one, sir, because there may be some discussion about this. So one by one. And you made a motion. Mayor Pro Tem seconded that motion. Actually, that was also on the list that uh Mr. Wiggins had about a fifteen dollar hour minimum wage for city employees. [1:33:41, 1:33:45]: So motion been made been second. Any further discussion about that? [1:33:46, 1:33:50]: Mayor got a question. Yes, ma'am. Go write it, please. Is HR on here? [1:33:51, 1:33:54]: Uh HR is not on here at this point. [1:33:54, 1:34:03]: I just wanted to know who do we have any employees that make less than$15 an hour? Oh, absolutely we do. We surely do. Mr. Aaron. [1:34:03, 1:34:05]: You're online. You need to speak to that sir. [1:34:05, 1:34:08]: Yes, sir, we have some staff in public works. [1:34:08, 1:34:10]: That are below the fifteen dollars an hour. [1:34:11, 1:34:11]: Okay. [1:34:13, 1:34:14]: That's all I want. [1:34:15, 1:34:16]: Okay. [1:34:16, 1:34:29]: And and I will say Mr. Aaron and and um Wiggins, of course, upon further discussion and approval of this, uh obviously we can make this budget adjustment and with no problem. Is that right? To to take care of these employees. [1:34:30, 1:34:31]: That's correct. [1:34:32, 1:34:32]: Mr. Aaron? [1:34:33, 1:34:33]: Yes, sir. [1:34:33, 1:34:37]: All right. Any further discussion, Council? Oh, Mr. Blount. Go ahead, please. [1:34:38, 1:34:40]: Mm Mr. Wiggins. [1:34:40, 1:34:48]: What would be the adjustment to the budget on the amount of employees that need to have this adjustment? What would be the amount to the budget for that? [1:34:50, 1:34:54]: I don't know the amount right now. I will have to go and get each employee [1:34:55, 1:34:58]: That's making less than 15 and calculate that up. [1:34:59, 1:35:01]: But this is but I'm saying, but this is not. [1:35:01, 1:35:12]: I guess I guess we've all been saying it tonight. This has been on the agenda. And if we approve this adjustment, at least we could have the could have had the information to know what adjustment to the budget. We're approving the budget tonight. [1:35:13, 1:35:28]: We at least would've known gotten with HR or gotten with apartment heads or whoever uh and looked at, gotten with HR to find out what adjustment needs to be made for how many employees to understand what the total amount would be for us tonight if we vote on the budget tonight. [1:35:29, 1:35:33]: This amount should have been given to us. Not that I don't approve it. I approve that. [1:35:33, 1:35:35]: But I still would like to know. [1:35:36, 1:35:40]: what adjustments are gonna be made to the budget for it and I think we we should have had that information tonight. [1:35:41, 1:35:43]: Well that's why I said uh before. [1:35:43, 1:35:45]: I started uh uh [1:35:45, 1:35:46]: Put the reading. [1:35:47, 1:35:47]: Is that [1:35:47, 1:35:50]: You're probably gonna need to discuss with your [1:35:50, 1:35:51]: Councilmates on [1:35:52, 1:35:54]: The recommendation that's been made. [1:35:55, 1:35:58]: And then we will probably have to do some type of special call meeting. [1:35:58, 1:36:01]: After we make those uh with those recommendations. [1:36:01, 1:36:03]: And and and put'em in the budget. [1:36:04, 1:36:08]: And have a special call meeting so you can approve the final butt for the final budget. [1:36:09, 1:36:11]: Uh but but let me say this, Mr. Wakens. [1:36:12, 1:36:15]: If this was if this if you already had this information. [1:36:15, 1:36:22]: I already have this information. This information was this You didn't you didn't know this you didn't know this proposal was coming tonight? [1:36:22, 1:36:30]: Well, this this this was discussed last week when all council members were supposed to have a have a meeting and discuss these. [1:36:30, 1:36:34]: particular recommendations and come to a decision on these recommendations. [1:36:35, 1:36:38]: But so did you know that this proposal or recommendation was coming tonight? [1:36:40, 1:36:41]: Yeah, I knew it. [1:36:42, 1:36:49]: But so if you knew that then why would I I you know I don't know how much let me say this let me say this [1:36:50, 1:36:56]: You would have the numbers because if we vote yes and ask you this question, we would get the answer. [1:36:57, 1:36:59]: That's why we s need it figures. [1:37:00, 1:37:00]: On that tonight. [1:37:01, 1:37:07]: If we say yes, which we all in agreement, then to to to know what the increase would be on the budget. [1:37:07, 1:37:14]: That's just simple as just saying, hey, these are how many employees needed. Let me get this to the council because they vote yes on the night. They got it. [1:37:15, 1:37:17]: If we're voting on a budget tonight. [1:37:17, 1:37:23]: I can add to that there's one boy currently in public works making less than fifteen dollars an hour. [1:37:24, 1:37:31]: And if you raise that employee up to$15 an hour, it add$4,000 to the budget. [1:37:31, 1:37:38]: to the salary line item in general maintenance public works. Mr. Aaron, I definitely appreciate that. [1:37:38, 1:37:46]: But we're talking about fifteen dollars an hour across the board, not just public works. Anybody, any city employee, that my understanding, I don't know if that's [1:37:46, 1:37:50]: the intent of the council, but I my understanding is that they were saying any employee [1:37:50, 1:38:02]: Not just public works making under$15 an hour would be moved up to fit at least$15 an hour. And then whenever adjustment needs to be made for that. But but we need to have figures. [1:38:02, 1:38:03]: We need numbers. [1:38:04, 1:38:07]: We need to know what we're we we need to we know what we want to do. [1:38:08, 1:38:11]: Here, but we just need numbers. That's all I'm saying. [1:38:12, 1:38:22]: Yes, sir. I'll just hear me Miss Ms. Wheeler ends on the call. Yeah, thank you. I see her. I was gonna I was gonna get her just a second. Um Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. [1:38:22, 1:38:26]: Let me just say this, you know, upon taking this office. [1:38:26, 1:38:29]: And I think everybody on this council has heard me say it. [1:38:30, 1:38:32]: That we wanted our people to be paid fairly. [1:38:33, 1:38:39]: We did a uh wow across the board, we did a wage salary increase study. [1:38:39, 1:38:42]: Of the entire area to make sure that our people were competitive. [1:38:43, 1:38:44]: It raised them up some. [1:38:45, 1:38:48]: But in the instance when we know now as a realtor, I am [1:38:48, 1:38:50]: Rent is fifteen hundred. [1:38:50, 1:38:52]: Sixteen hundred dollars a month. [1:38:52, 1:38:54]: For decent place to live here. [1:38:54, 1:39:04]: it's the right thing to do. But we understand that we've already made some adjustments to get people there. There should be a overwhelming number of people to come up [1:39:04, 1:39:22]: uh above$15 an hour, but anybody, if there's one person that was below$15 an hour, it's too many because we know what's going on out there. So uh in the end, uh we know that we've adjusted most ever most of the people at City Hall [1:39:22, 1:39:25]: or for and above fifteen dollars an hour, but anybody [1:39:26, 1:39:32]: That's left below the cracks because talking to staff and people come and they talk to you offline and they'll say, [1:39:33, 1:39:34]: It didn't reach me. [1:39:34, 1:39:47]: It didn't reach me. And I kept hearing that from different staff members that said, it didn't r you know, I know we got this salary jet, but it didn't reach me. So there's people out there that it didn't reach. And I want those people to hear me and know. [1:39:47, 1:39:55]: We are trying to take care of our employees because our employees take care of this city and they take care of the residents here. [1:39:56, 1:40:13]: Understanding, okay, some municipalities took the step of giving their employees bonuses. Okay, we didn't do that. But in this instance, we're going to make sure that we take care of our employees and give them a livable wage in order to do that. So that's what the attempt is here. [1:40:14, 1:40:23]: And Miss Wheeler, you're online now. Do you have any idea across the board and mounted employees that are under uh that we have that are under$15 an hour? [1:40:24, 1:40:27]: I know that there is one employee in the event staff. [1:40:28, 1:40:31]: Um that is below uh the fifteen dollars an hour. [1:40:31, 1:40:48]: And there may be maybe one other person in public works, but we haven't been making adjustments to increase the salaries of employees in public works, especially to a livable wage. It's just now come about this year regarding what has happened with the pandemic. [1:40:48, 1:40:55]: And most of my counterparts in many of the cities have also adjusted their wage to fifteen dollars an hour. [1:40:55, 1:41:03]: for the for those employees in public works or general maintenance. So we've had this conversation with um public works. [1:41:03, 1:41:07]: In trying to see if we could do that for our employees. [1:41:07, 1:41:09]: Um, so that we could retain them. [1:41:09, 1:41:21]: So the few people that are below maybe one or two and maybe three at the most, we should be able to do that according to John in the budget as approved. [1:41:21, 1:41:24]: Okay, uh can stand by a second. Miss Johnson. [1:41:24, 1:41:30]: Uh and I'm assuming that you you don't have anybody that's uh below fifteen hours, uh fifteen dollars an hour, do you at all? [1:41:32, 1:41:34]: No, sir, I do not. [1:41:34, 1:41:41]: All right, who else is on here? Okay, Destiny, Mr. Aaron, you have four or five uh gentlemen or just one? How many do you have, sir? [1:41:41, 1:41:44]: I have I have one. Only one? [1:41:44, 1:41:45]: Yes, sir. [1:41:46, 1:42:01]: And that's and that one you that's what you mentioned earlier in the conversation about four thousand dollars. That one increased that. But when we we met earlier, we adjusted that. So now with the next pay period, we won't have any below$15. [1:42:02, 1:42:07]: Okay, so okay, for the for the rest of this calendar year or are you talking about for uh twenty twenty-two now? [1:42:07, 1:42:10]: Going forward, we won't have anybody below 15. [1:42:12, 1:42:13]: Alrighty. [1:42:14, 1:42:20]: And that is the goal right there, to make sure that we never have anybody below fifteen or ever again. [1:42:20, 1:42:36]: Yeah, right. And Miss Wheeler, you're saying that you think there's only one in the event staff at all that this Yes, there is one person in the event staff who's a public works uh event person, and he is below that amount. So we'll need we'll need to make that adjustment for him. [1:42:38, 1:42:40]: Oh friend ahead of me instead of now. [1:42:41, 1:42:47]: Uh yeah, I don't I uh Miss I guess Miss Holiday, I don't know. Do you have anybody that's under fifteen, Miss Holliday? [1:42:48, 1:42:59]: Mayor, I do not. Okay. And I don't I'm not sure of any other admin staff, um, unless it's our own assistant. I'm not sure what I have to admit I'm not sure whether So most of the admin staff. [1:43:00, 1:43:03]: has been hired above the fifteen dollar an hour okay wage limit. [1:43:04, 1:43:05]: All right. [1:43:05, 1:43:22]: So I'm just trying to figure out if we have a rough number here of people and a cost factor that we can maybe move forward with some type of estimate per se in reference to uh a dollar value that we're looking at. Uh well we can use the dollar value of the one person that we need to bring up. [1:43:22, 1:43:23]: That's in advance? [1:43:24, 1:43:25]: Um [1:43:26, 1:43:29]: And that amount, John, can't be more than four or five thousand dollars. [1:43:30, 1:43:32]: I mean, we only have two more pay periods in this month. [1:43:33, 1:43:35]: So in order to cal calculate it for the [1:43:36, 1:43:36]: Um [1:43:37, 1:43:42]: Fifty you know, fifty-two weeks or twenty-six pay periods coming twenty twenty-two. [1:43:42, 1:43:53]: You'll be adding about another four thousand dollars to the events budget uh for that one individual. And that's that's four thousand there and it's also four thousand for uh public works for that individual there as well. [1:43:54, 1:44:10]: Well, that person has already been will be upgraded as of the next pay period. So Jesus has taken care of that. We heard this was coming. So let's move forward. Right. So that's that's uh so Mr. Aaron, you're you're good to go for twenty twenty two then. Is that what you're saying? [1:44:10, 1:44:11]: Yes, sir. [1:44:11, 1:44:20]: All right. And Miss Wheeler, uh for event staff, that's about for the event staff, that's another roughly four thousand yeah needed for the event staff in that aspect for 2022. [1:44:20, 1:44:21]: Correct. [1:44:21, 1:44:24]: All right. Mr. Blount, you had your hand up earlier. [1:44:24, 1:44:26]: Yeah, I would just [1:44:26, 1:44:30]: Um, you know, I I I think we're all in agreement to approve it. [1:44:30, 1:44:34]: I think we need to go ahead and improve because when we start to get into specifics in different areas. [1:44:35, 1:44:41]: Uh that is personnel and I don't want to get too deep into that. So I think we'd be for us going approving, I just would like us to go ahead and approve it. [1:44:42, 1:44:42]: All right. [1:44:43, 1:44:46]: Uh Miss Barber, you have your hand up. [1:44:47, 1:44:48]: Thank you. [1:44:48, 1:44:53]: Um I wanted to ask, so we're just talking about um the base pay. [1:44:53, 1:44:59]: What about the bonuses, the merit increases and cost of living increases annually? [1:44:59, 1:45:05]: Is that something we're continuing to do? Uh point of water. Let's can we just do the base P and get that out of the way? [1:45:05, 1:45:07]: No, I that's what the emotion is for. [1:45:09, 1:45:12]: Um, so I wanted to know, are we also? [1:45:12, 1:45:15]: talking about those three factors as well. [1:45:16, 1:45:20]: Someone made a comment that we did not give out bonuses this year. [1:45:20, 1:45:22]: Did we or did we not? [1:45:23, 1:45:25]: May Mayor, point of order. [1:45:26, 1:45:40]: I got you, I understand, sir. Well we're not stand by, please, stand by. So what what what the motion was and the motion was approved, it dealt with when the conversation around the motion dealt with the minimum um minimum wage of$15 an hour. [1:45:40, 1:46:00]: This other if issue you're talking about, Miss Barber's good point to on the point of order. We can talk about that once we get through this one process about the minimum dollar amount, because that's what the motion was on the floor for. And that's what the discussion should be surrounding in this aspect. All right. So if there's any any additional comments in reference to the minimum wage, and they're not, the motion was made and was approved and was seconded. [1:46:00, 1:46:03]: So all in favor of that motion, please indicate. [1:46:04, 1:46:19]: Okay, so I have unanimously says, okay, so fifteen dollars an hour. So now so obviously Mr. Wiggins, uh we've got to make sure for each of all those departments that we may have the right amount in there to make sure that we have the minimum amount uh for our employees of fifteen dollars an hour. Now, Miss Barber, you have another question. [1:46:21, 1:46:22]: Or concern. [1:46:25, 1:46:28]: Uh Mr. Wiggins, were bonuses issued this year? [1:46:30, 1:46:35]: Yes, that's another point of our stamp stand by. [1:46:35, 1:46:37]: What's the point order, sir? [1:46:37, 1:46:44]: The point of order is that there has to be a motion to add this to the agenda. This is not an agenda item to question this. [1:46:44, 1:46:47]: We got this long agenda. This is not agenda item. [1:46:48, 1:46:54]: We are talking about a budget. That is what this is stand by please. We're we're talking about the twenty [1:46:55, 1:46:57]: If these things are gonna be part of the discussion. [1:46:58, 1:47:01]: Then we need to m we need to amend the agenda to do it, wouldn't we? [1:47:01, 1:47:10]: This is all part of the 2022 budget. Hold on, folks. Hold on. This is part of the 2022 budget recommendation to the council. That's what we're talking about. [1:47:10, 1:47:21]: Thank you. And I believe I believe the issue deals with uh the upcoming year and where we stand and how we're gonna plan for the upcoming year. That's what we're dealing with. Thank you. For bonuses issue this year. [1:47:22, 1:47:23]: Yes. [1:47:23, 1:47:25]: Okay. With cost of living. Um [1:47:26, 1:47:27]: Also [1:47:27, 1:47:28]: Issued this year. [1:47:29, 1:47:29]: Yes. [1:47:30, 1:47:31]: Okay, what about merit increases? [1:47:33, 1:47:36]: Uh think it was a few sporadic. [1:47:36, 1:47:37]: Through departments. [1:47:38, 1:47:40]: Okay. Thank you, sir. [1:47:41, 1:47:48]: All right, now I'm back to Mr. I'm coming back to you, Mr. Thomas. You said you had some additional motion, sir. Thank you. Um [1:47:49, 1:47:55]: Motion to amend the vacant public works technicians. [1:47:55, 1:47:56]: Position [1:47:56, 1:47:58]: From eight to two. [1:47:59, 1:48:02]: And adjusting salaries and benefits. [1:48:03, 1:48:06]: to reflect the change in the [1:48:06, 1:48:10]: FY twenty twenty-two budget. [1:48:13, 1:48:16]: All right. Is there f further discussion on that issue? [1:48:17, 1:48:29]: Well, let me let me mention this. Uh so you want to take eight, there are eight vacant positions and you want to take those eight and you want to get rid of six and only have two. Is that what you're getting at, sir? Yes. And and if I may comment. [1:48:29, 1:48:32]: Um it's a possibility that this council [1:48:33, 1:48:37]: may want to bring these positions back during the [1:48:37, 1:48:39]: Um growing season. [1:48:40, 1:48:44]: Um at the last meeting or the meeting that I had with Mr. Aaron. [1:48:44, 1:48:45]: I sort of asked him [1:48:46, 1:48:47]: Um [1:48:47, 1:48:51]: What would these guys do? That's we're not asked the question about [1:48:51, 1:48:58]: cutting zones and and how many employees in each zone, how many zones. And he did share that information with me. [1:48:59, 1:49:01]: Excuse me, but when I asked [1:49:01, 1:49:02]: Um [1:49:03, 1:49:05]: What would they do during the off season? [1:49:06, 1:49:10]: He did give me an answer. It it didn't really resonate with me. Um [1:49:10, 1:49:15]: I know he sort of said they fill in, they may pick up trash, pick up litter. [1:49:15, 1:49:18]: That just didn't resonate with me. So [1:49:18, 1:49:27]: Uh I I'm not excluding this altogether, but since we are here now discussing um you know the budget at this point in time. [1:49:28, 1:49:36]: This is the recommendation, and this is sort of the talking points that I received from uh some of the other members. Now it's not to say that. [1:49:36, 1:49:43]: um later this summer you know we we we could have a um a budget amendment but that is the motion at this point [1:49:43, 1:50:03]: Okay, let me mention this to you. I'm I'm on this it's my little some simple assumption. I'm assuming some of these vacancies have occurred because of what we've been going through the pandemic. There have been shortfalls and people for ill other industries as well. And part of the problem probably is the fact that we weren't paying enough money for these possess positions.$15 an hour or more is probably what's attracting other folks to other [1:50:03, 1:50:23]: businesses and other line uh businesses that that are short have shortfalls there as well. So I don't know whether or not changing this would would help out the process or not. And I've the one other thing I want the council to think about is that we're talking about eventually going doing annexations and growing. If that's the case, I would think these positions would be needed in this aspect. So [1:50:23, 1:50:33]: And so I just think think the look at that and see whether or not it makes sense to do what you're requesting right now. That's my two cents for that. Any further discussion? Well [1:50:35, 1:50:42]: Why, sir. Uh see this is one of the reasons why this could um this could actually, you know, come back. [1:50:42, 1:50:49]: Um annexation. I don't I don't see that happening uh tomorrow or the next day or the next day. [1:50:49, 1:50:58]: So that's why, you know, in the future, six months from now or next year, uh, all of this may be relevant, but today. [1:50:58, 1:51:04]: For this budget that we're trying to approve, uh, this is uh the motion and this is the recommendation. [1:51:05, 1:51:07]: Okay. Any further discussion? [1:51:08, 1:51:09]: Was there a second to the motion, by the way? [1:51:10, 1:51:11]: A second. [1:51:11, 1:51:17]: Okay, Miss Barber seconds that. Uh before uh before I ask for the call, Mr. Aaron, do you have anything last-minute comments you'd like to say at this time? [1:51:20, 1:51:25]: My only concern is that you already have a department that's short of staff. [1:51:26, 1:51:46]: So you're going to take positions from this, from the department. When the department also assists in other things, such as events, we support those, we support other departments as well. And right now we've had three employees that have been promoted to other positions in public works, one in water, one in sewer, one in facility maintenance. So you've [1:51:46, 1:51:47]: Post three season in fleet. [1:51:48, 1:51:50]: So now you've got about [1:51:51, 1:51:53]: Like look at my list of [1:51:54, 1:51:56]: of vacancies you've got [1:51:58, 1:52:05]: Let's see one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. [1:52:05, 1:52:07]: Eight nine ten [1:52:08, 1:52:12]: Ten employees that are doing all your right-of-way maintenance, all of your mowing. [1:52:13, 1:52:28]: That's all you have right now is 10 people that's responsible for 105 miles, a road, a right of way in the city. They're responsible for picking up litter, also making repairs in streets, patching potholes and things of that nature. [1:52:29, 1:52:29]: And [1:52:30, 1:52:35]: You're expecting 10 people to do that. That's gonna be a major undertasking. Under [1:52:35, 1:52:50]: taken for those 10 people when you got senior employees that accumulate over three to four weeks of vacation per year. So you still got to rotate in and out with those staff members. But you when you delete it from eight down to two, that's going to greatly hamper that department. [1:52:52, 1:52:54]: Okay. Miss Barber, you you had your hand up? [1:52:55, 1:53:00]: Yes, um I just wanted to mention it, Mr. Aaron, Councilman Thomas mentioned [1:53:00, 1:53:01]: you'll be able to come back. [1:53:02, 1:53:03]: Um [1:53:03, 1:53:04]: Next year. [1:53:05, 1:53:06]: And ask for a budget amendment. [1:53:06, 1:53:08]: If you need additional [1:53:08, 1:53:09]: Manpower. [1:53:09, 1:53:14]: But as it stands right now, those positions has remained, have remained, and still. [1:53:14, 1:53:15]: I'll have this here. [1:53:16, 1:53:17]: Um [1:53:17, 1:53:21]: I would think that with the increase in salary. [1:53:22, 1:53:24]: It may look a little more attractive. [1:53:25, 1:53:27]: So you should be able to feel [1:53:27, 1:53:30]: the two positions if we're able to approve this motion. [1:53:31, 1:53:34]: Right now, we should be able to fill those positions. [1:53:34, 1:53:35]: rather quickly. [1:53:36, 1:53:38]: And as soon as you feel them. [1:53:38, 1:53:40]: You can always come back to the council. [1:53:41, 1:53:44]: Mm. Go ahead, please. [1:53:45, 1:53:53]: Yep, Mr. Aaron, if you still don't thank you, Mayor. Mr. Aaron, you still on the line when you talk about rotating employees, you talk about the number of employees that are there. [1:53:53, 1:54:01]: Are you are you taking in consideration those those that we are contracted around the city also to do those uh those various jobs? [1:54:02, 1:54:10]: But those are things outside of the right-of-way moment. You got three employees that maintain the parts. All those parts get cut every week. [1:54:10, 1:54:13]: The maintenance on the parts, then you got [1:54:13, 1:54:29]: uh two employees that are fixing potholes, maintaining other things like carpentry and those sort of things. And you've got I think it's three people that are mowing right now, doing all the mowing. And you got two people that are doing [1:54:29, 1:54:36]: Well, three, one of them is out on workers comp, but you got three people picking up litter and three people mowing right now. [1:54:36, 1:54:41]: So are you are you saying you need these employ so you're saying you need these employees instead of reduction? [1:54:41, 1:55:01]: Yes, sir. That's why we sworn last year. And the only reason we didn't fill those positions with$13 an hour. And during the pandemic, when they had the enhanced unemployment, you had people getting$800 a week for sitting at home versus you're going to ask them to come to work and bring home$350. So that there was no choice. I'd rather take the$800. [1:55:01, 1:55:05]: and stay at home than to come to work and make$350. [1:55:06, 1:55:08]: And those are positioned like I said. [1:55:08, 1:55:15]: Those are positions that are needed. This is a very small public works department for a city this size. You got 10 employees. [1:55:16, 1:55:25]: that are requ that are maintaining the right of ways for 105 miles within the city. They're mowing and picking up litter and doing other things. They put up Christmas decoration, they put up [1:55:26, 1:55:32]: uh flags and all that for the Memorial Day and those assist with events when the city have events. So [1:55:36, 1:55:46]: And goodness if we budget for'em and you don't hire'em, then you s you don't spend that money, but to come back and say, Well, now's the time to [1:55:47, 1:55:54]: we want to add to the budget or increase the budget, then there's an issue trying to find the funding to bring those people on. [1:55:56, 1:55:59]: And I'd just rather not be shorthanded because it's gonna come in the summer when [1:56:00, 1:56:02]: Grass is growing and other things are happening that [1:56:03, 1:56:06]: It's gonna be some c concerns about things that are not being done. [1:56:08, 1:56:09]: Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. [1:56:10, 1:56:15]: Let me say this. Always ask the employees what they need. Miss Aaron, do you need these employees? [1:56:16, 1:56:17]: Yes, sir. They are needed. [1:56:18, 1:56:20]: Okay, and you're telling us that [1:56:20, 1:56:25]: You you believe because at the end of the year when w when I'm calling and I'm saying [1:56:25, 1:56:32]: the trash is over here and the litters over there, you gonna tell me, uh, well, you cut those employees, right? [1:56:33, 1:56:37]: Yes, sir. There's three people right now that pick up letter. [1:56:37, 1:56:38]: Throughout the whole si three people. [1:56:39, 1:56:51]: That's all you have. And right now you got because of promotion that people took positions in other departments in public work, you got three people there to mowing and then three people that take care of the parts. The parts are a full-time job. [1:56:51, 1:56:56]: It needs weekly attention. They cut all those parts every week. [1:56:56, 1:56:58]: And along with the other maintenance. [1:56:59, 1:57:04]: So in in in essence we got three people picking up litter entire uh uh in [1:57:04, 1:57:07]: Over the entire city, is that what you're saying? [1:57:07, 1:57:08]: Yes, sir. [1:57:08, 1:57:11]: So in in essence, I think we've talked about [1:57:12, 1:57:16]: adding even somebody over the weekend. The issue has been is that your [1:57:16, 1:57:19]: Una inability to feel the position. [1:57:19, 1:57:21]: So you're saying now that we've [1:57:22, 1:57:27]: uh bump the rate up to fifteen dollars an hour, you think that you may be able to fill some of these positions. [1:57:27, 1:57:31]: Or should we seek a contractor in order to do it? [1:57:32, 1:57:52]: Well, we've tried both ways. We tried with uh temporary staffing. You could find some employees, but that got to be difficult finding temporary staffing. That's why we asked for the full-time staffing, because we thought maybe you're offering benefits and other things that that would appeal to people, but it but it didn't. We were in the midst of the pandemic and some people [1:57:52, 1:57:53]: But also stay home. [1:57:53, 1:57:57]: and live off the enhanced unemployment versus coming to work. [1:57:58, 1:58:05]: Okay. Uh so your your assertion is that we need all eight of them, is that correct? Or maybe six? [1:58:06, 1:58:07]: Yeah if [1:58:07, 1:58:13]: If we want to maintain the city according to what mayor and council wants to see, then we need that additional staffing. [1:58:14, 1:58:16]: You you so you you're saying that you need all of them. [1:58:17, 1:58:18]: Yes, sir. [1:58:18, 1:58:21]: So if you had all eight of these employees. [1:58:21, 1:58:24]: And this fifteen dollars an hour search and work. [1:58:24, 1:58:28]: Break down how what the other six would do and then how you would have them do it. [1:58:29, 1:58:39]: Well, we've got five zones and plus a cemetery zone. So you'd have five uh crew leaders in those zones and within that zone they'll have [1:58:39, 1:58:47]: Three to four employees, depending on the size of the zone, that are mowing and picking up litter within those zones. And then some zones that are [1:58:47, 1:58:52]: are small, those people will come together with other zones and they'll work with each other. [1:58:53, 1:58:57]: to make sure that they get littered d litter picked up and and mowing done. [1:58:57, 1:59:01]: So they will operate within those five zones plus the two figures. [1:59:02, 1:59:04]: So those three people that are picking up litter. [1:59:04, 1:59:08]: How much litter are three people able to pick up on a weekly basis? [1:59:08, 1:59:14]: I don't I have to look at my weekly report. I'm saying how what how much area of the city are they able to cover in your estimation? [1:59:16, 1:59:18]: I think we're getting probably [1:59:18, 1:59:20]: Thirty to forty bags a week. [1:59:21, 1:59:28]: I'm saying how much of that is a city? Is that ten percent, that twenty, that thirty percent? How much of the city are the these three people covering? [1:59:28, 1:59:31]: Probably thirty to thirty five percent on the city of week. [1:59:31, 1:59:40]: So if we go to eight, then you think we might be able to cover most of the city during the week in terms of litter and and right away um [1:59:40, 1:59:47]: We if we went to eight, we are on a weekly basis, you'll pick up little probably sixty five to seven percent of the city. [1:59:48, 2:00:03]: So in essence, if if I if you if I tell you you tell me today I'm gonna give you these eight employees that you have deemed necessary, that you're gonna be able to pick up litter in 70 to 80 percent of this the city every week. Is that what you're saying? [2:00:03, 2:00:04]: Yes, sir. [2:00:04, 2:00:07]: And I can hold you and I can hold you to that. [2:00:07, 2:00:11]: Yes, if you look at where the majority of we concentrate our efforts, it's on rock water. [2:00:11, 2:00:17]: There's a lot of this three days a week is spent on Rock Quarry and Davidson Parkway in Old Atlanta. [2:00:17, 2:00:21]: Those are the roles that we spend the major especially rock for it. [2:00:21, 2:00:24]: With the apartment complex and the businesses up there. [2:00:25, 2:00:28]: Ca what I would ask Councilman Thomas to do is to [2:00:28, 2:00:32]: R consider rescinding this and let's reevaluate this in. [2:00:32, 2:00:36]: Six months to see whether Mr. Aaron has followed his word. [2:00:36, 2:00:51]: And that he's using these eight employees and he's able to staff it. And that the city, instead of thirty percent litter is being picked up, most the whole city almost 70 to 80 percent of the city is being hit every week. [2:00:51, 2:00:56]: Can I get a weekend in there too, Mr. Ayer? You think we might be able to get somebody on the weekend too? [2:00:58, 2:01:10]: I don't no, I don't know. We'd have to look into that. Okay. Well we we we we need somebody on this on that on that on the on the weekend day too. So if I get that, I I'm I don't want to cut you back because I'm not [2:01:10, 2:01:13]: I think that I want to hold you more accountable. [2:01:13, 2:01:16]: For what you say. Now you've said [2:01:16, 2:01:36]: That I if we give you the eight, we can hold you accountable for 70 to 80 percent of the city being locked down and picked up and taken care of. I want to be able to hold you to that. So I would ask that the council hold off on cutting these positions to hold you accountable since 2022 is the year of account. [2:01:36, 2:01:38]: Accountability. You okay with that? [2:01:41, 2:01:42]: Yes, I am. [2:01:42, 2:01:45]: Mayor Ford, I will withdraw my second. [2:01:46, 2:01:47]: Mm-hmm. [2:01:47, 2:01:48]: Question uh [2:01:49, 2:01:50]: Mr. Air, see. [2:01:50, 2:01:54]: One of my concerns is during the non cutting season. [2:01:55, 2:01:55]: Um [2:01:55, 2:02:01]: You know, when I look at my grass, I cut it and I don't have to cut it for another three months or so. [2:02:01, 2:02:04]: I'm when you you you keep emphasizing um [2:02:05, 2:02:06]: Cutting, cut and cutting. [2:02:07, 2:02:09]: I'm still concerned about [2:02:09, 2:02:29]: you know, are we just hiring these folks just to pick up litter, which I understand litter because you know I have a campaign against litter, but that's just one of my concerns. And and I tell you the my other concern is is all of the outsourcing. Outsourcing for the sidewalks, outsourcing for the tree trimming and outsourcing for this, outsourcing for that land. [2:02:29, 2:02:33]: landscaping. So it just sort of just just one of my concerns. So [2:02:36, 2:02:40]: I'm just a little troubled, you know, by this. Um [2:02:42, 2:02:44]: Accountability, yes. [2:02:45, 2:02:51]: But I I'll just sort of see how how the other council members feel about this, but I I just have a little concern uh about this, but [2:02:52, 2:02:56]: You know, I know we saw the people we we're talking long, but um, but that's one of my concerns. [2:02:57, 2:02:59]: Especially from now until [2:02:59, 2:03:03]: at least April or May, I I just don't see a lot of grass cutting. [2:03:04, 2:03:11]: The the the if I was able to respond to that. This is what I'm gonna say to you, Mr. Councilman Thomas. I'm so certainly respectful of. [2:03:12, 2:03:15]: What you're thinking. Just like in my neighborhood every week. [2:03:16, 2:03:18]: Our neighborhood is covered. [2:03:18, 2:03:25]: with leaves and everything. And these residents over here have to cut the grass even during the wintertime. Our grass is dormant. [2:03:25, 2:03:28]: But we still have to cut it every single week. [2:03:28, 2:03:36]: Because we have leaves and we have other things and debris and the street sweeper being out there. This is a part of where we're trying to go to be. [2:03:36, 2:03:44]: Disney clean to get where we want to go. I'd ask that you just be patient with him a little longer. And again, he's already agreed to say. [2:03:45, 2:03:46]: If he is not [2:03:47, 2:03:58]: Caught up in six months, we get to take these positions with his authority. He's already said he's gonna be a commitment. Let me just ask one last question, Mayor if I may to Mr. Aries. [2:03:59, 2:04:01]: This is the non [2:04:01, 2:04:05]: uh growing season. So are your lawnmowers? [2:04:05, 2:04:10]: Are they still cutting as active as during the growing season? [2:04:13, 2:04:32]: Yes, sir. We're still mowing. The parts still get service every week. They still get mowed. There are right-of-ways that still get mowed. We'll cut up to probably like January, the second week of January, but the parts get mowed on a weekly basis, regardless, whether it's winter, spring, summer, or fall. They mow those areas. [2:04:33, 2:04:36]: Cause the weeds grow in the winter too. [2:04:37, 2:04:44]: So let me ask let me ask council then, and it and this, you know, it's up to the consensus of the council, you're asking for eight. [2:04:45, 2:04:56]: Um w would half of that do. I'm just sort of just throwing some numbers out. But let's move on. But I just want to just throw that out, you know, just if council willing to give you half that number, or do you want to give them all eight? [2:04:58, 2:04:59]: Well yeah. [2:05:00, 2:05:04]: She uh could Barber has eight up. If if I count right, Barber has eight. [2:05:04, 2:05:19]: You know, so um okay, she's she's as a I'm tell you I think that should I personally I think that she he should keep all all the people and then hold his feet to the fire. You increase that uh the salary, so that should be helpful in retaining people, getting people and then retain them. [2:05:19, 2:05:24]: So I would agree. Let me let me ask count Councilwoman Gantt and Councilman Blount. [2:05:24, 2:05:25]: Okay. [2:05:25, 2:05:27]: Just a you know, just a short answer. [2:05:27, 2:05:28]: They're online. [2:05:31, 2:05:34]: Blount, Mr. Blount, you got a qu you got an answer to that question? [2:05:34, 2:05:39]: Well well, you know, I'm in I'm in line for giving each each department what they need. [2:05:39, 2:05:40]: Um [2:05:41, 2:05:45]: But also on this in that same vein, I'm I'm still concerned about the overall [2:05:46, 2:05:50]: uh ending of the budget because I think the budget presentation in itself needs to [2:05:51, 2:05:55]: wasn't enough for me to really have an understanding of where we're at where we're actually going. [2:05:55, 2:05:59]: Because there's gonna be some additions and subtraction, there's gonna be some things added and moved. [2:05:59, 2:06:01]: And so but I'm for [2:06:01, 2:06:06]: With all the things that are going on with the city, with all the additions that we're making and then with Mr. Aaron's [2:06:07, 2:06:10]: Uh giving a uh an example the the people that are being moved in and out. [2:06:11, 2:06:11]: Um [2:06:12, 2:06:16]: Who am I to argue his point on what he needs? I'm not a public works director. [2:06:16, 2:06:23]: So the public works and that's what he needs. What who am I to say he doesn't need it? So if we're able to make that happen, I'm I'm in agreement with making that happen. [2:06:24, 2:06:26]: Ms. Kant, do you got an idea, thought? [2:06:31, 2:06:32]: All right. [2:06:32, 2:06:34]: Yeah, I was just wondering if we had a thought to uh [2:06:35, 2:06:40]: Uh Councilman Thomas was asking your uh concern about the positions. What kind of thought you had about that? [2:06:41, 2:06:49]: I am in favor of the eight, leaving the eight like it is. Okay. There you there you have it, Mr. Thomas. Okay. So um [2:06:49, 2:06:51]: I my motion failed. [2:06:51, 2:06:55]: Okay, uh I'm gonna move on. All right, go right here, please. [2:06:55, 2:06:56]: Congratulations, Mr. Earr. [2:06:57, 2:06:58]: Um [2:06:59, 2:07:04]: Motion to amend the public works vehicle purchase line item. [2:07:04, 2:07:08]: From two hundred thousand to fifty thousand. [2:07:08, 2:07:11]: For FY twenty twenty two. [2:07:13, 2:07:23]: All right. So you t you we re you wanna reduce it for this for purchasing of vehicles. Is this correct? That is correct. And and one of my concerns is and and I think we just need to get um [2:07:24, 2:07:28]: a list of vehicles uh being being replaced. [2:07:28, 2:07:31]: And I think I asked this question and I know Mr. Eric, you provided [2:07:32, 2:07:34]: The replacement policy. [2:07:34, 2:07:38]: But I I think we have to sort of get a little deeper into that. And and and again. [2:07:38, 2:07:41]: You know, what I'm attempting to do is trim the fat. [2:07:42, 2:07:49]: And make sure that we are more efficient and effective. And I know, you know, it's not like pulling teeth here today, but I think. [2:07:50, 2:08:10]: This is a process. And I wish we could have sort of gone through this process with the directors ahead of time, but I think this is a lesson learned. And I hopefully in 2022, if God is willing, that we would take uh the budget cycle a little bit more seriously. You know, we went through the first reading, no one said a word. We went through the [2:08:10, 2:08:30]: second reading no one said a word and now here we are at the third so i think we have to learn from this process and and and you know let's get a little bit more involved it it you know during the first season during the first reading then i think we'll end up with a better product but anyway um that that's my emotion and i i'm getting a lot of this just [2:08:29, 2:08:32]: from comments from from other so [2:08:33, 2:08:37]: I if you'd like for me to read that again, motion to [2:08:37, 2:08:42]: I'm sorry. No, I was gonna say uh I think we got it. I was gonna ask Mr. Aaron what kind of comments he had. [2:08:42, 2:08:43]: Okay. [2:08:44, 2:08:48]: Yeah, if the if that's the council's decision, then we'll have to work with it. [2:08:49, 2:08:53]: Let me ask a question. Is it you already bought the street sweep already? [2:08:54, 2:08:54]: El sir. [2:08:55, 2:09:02]: So is it so what is the two hundred so uh are we gonna be able to get the street sweeper with the extra street sweeper with fifty thousand dollars? [2:09:02, 2:09:09]: The street sweeper is in a stormwater bug, not in the public. So it's not included in this. It's it's just that's what is that about? [2:09:10, 2:09:21]: This is in the public works budget for the Okay, so so the street sweeper's not being touched. No, so these were vehicles for the eight people. When you hire the additional staff, you need additional [2:09:21, 2:09:23]: uh vehicles and equipment. [2:09:23, 2:09:25]: But we'll make it work with what we have. [2:09:26, 2:09:27]: All right, second. [2:09:29, 2:09:31]: All right. Motion miss second. Is there any further discussion? [2:09:34, 2:09:37]: All right, no further discussion. Uh all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [2:09:39, 2:09:43]: Okay, I got three. Mr. Blount, Ms. Gantt. [2:09:44, 2:09:44]: I'll stay. [2:09:45, 2:09:47]: Abstain. [2:09:47, 2:09:51]: Okay, three zero two. All right, Mr. Go ahead, Mr. Thomas. Um [2:09:52, 2:09:53]: Motion to approve [2:09:54, 2:09:55]: The judge [2:09:56, 2:09:58]: The solicitor [2:09:59, 2:10:07]: Deputy, I'm reading slow so the uh city clerk can sort of record this, now start this over. Motion to approve the judge, solicitor. [2:10:08, 2:10:10]: Deputy Court Clerk. [2:10:10, 2:10:13]: And the HR coordinator position. [2:10:14, 2:10:19]: with funding for new salaries and benefit effective. [2:10:20, 2:10:22]: June first, twenty twenty two. [2:10:23, 2:10:27]: To coincide with the start up of the police services. [2:10:30, 2:10:47]: All right. Okay. So this barber second that. Okay. For discussion purposes, clarification. So you you you they have a current salary now and you're you're looking to to reduce the salary now and then and then increase it, or what I'm I'm I'm trying to understand this myself. [2:10:47, 2:10:53]: Well, f from my understanding, say with the judge, for instance, and I well [2:10:54, 2:10:58]: I I don't know. Someone tell me if if we can sort of discuss a lot of this. [2:10:59, 2:11:02]: Why don't okay, how about uh how about [2:11:03, 2:11:06]: How about our attorneys? We're talking about um [2:11:07, 2:11:12]: personnel actions or or or or salaries here for the budget purposes. Can we actually do that in this form? [2:11:17, 2:11:19]: I I believe that you can. [2:11:19, 2:11:19]: Okay. [2:11:21, 2:11:25]: Because we're talking about the budget, I suppose, huh? Is that what it means? Okay. [2:11:26, 2:11:30]: Well, let me say then, um, I think has been [2:11:31, 2:11:34]: May Mayor. Yes, sir. Yes, Mr. Blount. [2:11:35, 2:11:36]: It's telling you what [2:11:37, 2:11:39]: Mayor, when we discuss in budgets. [2:11:40, 2:11:48]: Because when you have positions at City Hall where there's only one position here, one position there, the specifics of that person is being discussed. [2:11:49, 2:11:55]: And even though we have the right or may have the right to do that, I'm not comfortable with us discussing. [2:11:56, 2:11:58]: O one particular position. [2:11:59, 2:12:02]: versus we say public works or we're saying [2:12:02, 2:12:08]: uh um other other departments that have multiple employees, but when you're talking about positions. [2:12:09, 2:12:11]: Then we are discussing [2:12:11, 2:12:19]: uh particular positions that are that either are filled or will be filled. And I don't I'm not comfortable with this council discussing. [2:12:19, 2:12:21]: salaries of people's position. [2:12:22, 2:12:26]: Uh in this type forum, we have a forum executive session to discuss employees. [2:12:27, 2:12:28]: Mm-hmm. [2:12:28, 2:12:33]: And and just let me add, and I I can somewhat agree with that, but see one of the concerns is that [2:12:35, 2:12:38]: Um and I'm trying to see how I'm trying to choose my words. [2:12:38, 2:12:41]: Um because of the [2:12:41, 2:12:45]: Uh police service that's coming on in June. [2:12:46, 2:12:47]: It is the contention that [2:12:48, 2:12:54]: Um, you know, there's more work, you know, um fees, fines. [2:12:54, 2:12:58]: You know, it's just gonna be a little bit more work. [2:12:58, 2:13:05]: uh involved and that's reason I'm saying let's let's put it out until June when the actual [2:13:06, 2:13:10]: caseloads really increase. I don't see doing it um [2:13:11, 2:13:17]: beforehand. So the status quo of what has been, you know, for the last few years. [2:13:17, 2:13:23]: I I think I'm okay with that. And maybe in June when things sort of rev up somewhat. [2:13:23, 2:13:28]: Um with the police department then I think we started bringing everything in line. [2:13:28, 2:13:33]: uh with the startup of the police department. And that's really the only difference right there, just to [2:13:33, 2:13:38]: uh increase everything when we start up the police department because until then [2:13:38, 2:13:54]: Um everything is you know as it was in 21, 2020, 2019, et cetera, et cetera, going back. Well, couldn't that be a budget amendment that we if we needed to decrease something at that point uh based on the workload? June in June, correct. Right. [2:13:55, 2:13:58]: All right. Uh well stand by. Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [2:13:59, 2:14:08]: Okay, so because this was an item that we discussed at the last meeting, my whole idea behind that was exactly as um Councilman Thomas spoke of. [2:14:09, 2:14:11]: the rollout of the police department. [2:14:11, 2:14:12]: We'll start in July. [2:14:13, 2:14:15]: The proposed budget. [2:14:15, 2:14:21]: for those specific positions at the courts and the HR coordinator. [2:14:21, 2:14:25]: won't increase until the rollout of the police department. [2:14:26, 2:14:26]: So [2:14:27, 2:14:29]: However, the proposed budget that was submitted. [2:14:30, 2:14:31]: accounts for a full year. [2:14:32, 2:14:34]: of increased activity. [2:14:34, 2:14:37]: When in fact that won't be the case. [2:14:37, 2:14:40]: What I suggested at our last meeting is [2:14:40, 2:14:41]: Curling hair. [2:14:41, 2:14:42]: Um [2:14:42, 2:14:44]: So that the [2:14:44, 2:14:45]: Proposed. [2:14:45, 2:14:46]: Salaries. [2:14:47, 2:14:48]: Well [2:14:49, 2:14:51]: The full salary won't take effect until July. [2:14:52, 2:14:53]: Not June. [2:14:53, 2:14:54]: But July. [2:14:56, 2:14:57]: Mr. Wiggins. [2:14:57, 2:14:59]: Did you include that? [2:15:01, 2:15:06]: No, I didn't include that. Okay. That's fine. All the size was still the same. [2:15:07, 2:15:10]: Okay, that's fine. But Councilman Thomas, it's July. [2:15:10, 2:15:11]: Not too [2:15:11, 2:15:18]: Well, when I say June, I guess I'm talking June thirty first or whatever the last day in June is. Okay. That's fine. [2:15:18, 2:15:19]: Make the motion. [2:15:20, 2:15:20]: Okay. [2:15:20, 2:15:27]: A mo motions actually already made, I believe, and seconded. Um this aspect. Mr. Blount, you had your hand back up. [2:15:28, 2:15:32]: Mayor, this is one reason we need to have because the courts are not dormant right now. [2:15:33, 2:15:34]: They're not dormant. [2:15:35, 2:15:39]: And when you talk about staff that is ne staff that is needed. [2:15:39, 2:15:42]: Uh for any department resident anywhere. [2:15:42, 2:15:49]: Uh if if we're talking about the police department coming on uh roughly a little over six months. [2:15:49, 2:15:50]: Uh [2:15:50, 2:15:51]: You wait. [2:15:51, 2:15:55]: six months from now or do you prepare yourselves for what's what's to come? [2:15:56, 2:15:57]: And the stuff is the same. [2:15:58, 2:15:59]: The staff is the same. [2:16:00, 2:16:02]: We just aren't talking, uh we're talking [2:16:03, 2:16:03]: Salary. [2:16:05, 2:16:12]: Therefore, if I may stand by stand by. Stand by please. Mr. Blonde, are you done with your comment, sir? [2:16:12, 2:16:20]: No, if if if I could finish, I'm saying we have to be careful and cautious when we start to move and saying we're gonna change this in six months or whatever it is. [2:16:20, 2:16:26]: Uh one of the things I think we need to do is is home in on what is needed for the budget for the year. [2:16:27, 2:16:33]: And how we're moving about doing it. And that's including every department and every uh thing that we're doing because [2:16:34, 2:16:50]: whether it's there now is going to be coming even gradually or whatever. We don't have dormant courts. We don't have this and but those things are still incrementally moving toward who the type of employees we're going to need. Uh the staffing we need is is is [2:16:51, 2:16:57]: You know, Judge McCord would have to be here to say uh to to speak on certain things or whatever. You know, uh I I mean [2:16:58, 2:17:05]: move about it just the bottom line is you know however we're gonna do it as a budget I think we need to make sure that we're we're uh [2:17:05, 2:17:13]: We're we're we're adhering to what the needs of uh of the those apartment heads, the judge or anybody. Uh let me as we did with the police chief. [2:17:14, 2:17:18]: Let me let me put some clarity here. Uh the the staffing is the same. [2:17:19, 2:17:24]: Actually it is a budget saving. So from January [2:17:24, 2:17:25]: To June. [2:17:26, 2:17:27]: That that's a saving. [2:17:27, 2:17:35]: Um the operations and the staffing is still the same. There's no change in the staffing. In my motion, I made reference to the [2:17:36, 2:17:44]: HR coordinator position, which is a new position, but for the court services, that remains the same. [2:17:45, 2:17:47]: We're just well, I'm just this is all about [2:17:47, 2:17:51]: Um savings from January to June. [2:17:53, 2:17:54]: All right, Miss Barber, please. [2:17:56, 2:17:58]: Okay, so [2:17:58, 2:18:00]: In essence [2:18:01, 2:18:02]: The court staff. [2:18:03, 2:18:05]: Whatever salary they're making per month now. [2:18:06, 2:18:07]: We're asking that [2:18:08, 2:18:09]: Mr. Wiggins. [2:18:10, 2:18:13]: Use the first six months of twenty twenty two. [2:18:15, 2:18:17]: The average of what the [2:18:17, 2:18:20]: Last six months of twenty twenty one is. [2:18:20, 2:18:21]: Use that. [2:18:22, 2:18:28]: as the first well the f the first and second quarter salaries for those specific employees. [2:18:30, 2:18:31]: That's correct. I'm July. [2:18:32, 2:18:34]: Then you can take half. [2:18:35, 2:18:36]: Of the proposed salary. [2:18:37, 2:18:39]: For all of twenty twenty two. [2:18:39, 2:18:40]: Cut that in half. [2:18:41, 2:18:46]: And that should give you the finger to add for the twenty twenty two budget. So use. [2:18:47, 2:18:50]: what they're currently paying, what they're currently making. [2:18:51, 2:18:52]: uh for the first half of the year. [2:18:54, 2:18:58]: And you have a six month saving. That's how you have a six month saving. [2:18:58, 2:18:59]: Exactly. [2:19:01, 2:19:03]: So w what what you have in the budget now. [2:19:05, 2:19:06]: For twenty twenty two. [2:19:07, 2:19:11]: Um for the you know, for the judge and solicitor you have a [2:19:12, 2:19:15]: significant increase. Do you want to just cut that in half? [2:19:16, 2:19:17]: For six months. [2:19:18, 2:19:19]: Yes. [2:19:19, 2:19:20]: Account for [2:19:21, 2:19:24]: The first six months of the year. [2:19:24, 2:19:27]: They will continue functioning at the level they are. [2:19:28, 2:19:29]: Currently. [2:19:29, 2:19:33]: I got yes, I understand. Use the uh use that. [2:19:33, 2:19:34]: So then [2:19:35, 2:19:36]: Стартін джилай. [2:19:36, 2:19:46]: And then add on the six, the half half of the six months proposed right. Exactly. Whatever they proposed um salary for 2022 was. [2:19:46, 2:19:47]: Just cut it there. [2:19:48, 2:19:49]: Correct. [2:19:49, 2:19:50]: That's all. [2:19:50, 2:19:51]: Okay. [2:19:52, 2:19:52]: Yeah. [2:19:53, 2:19:53]: Yes, ma'am. [2:19:54, 2:19:59]: I would need Councilman Thomas to change his motion because he initially stated June one. [2:20:01, 2:20:03]: Okay, um [2:20:05, 2:20:09]: I amend that motion for July. [2:20:10, 2:20:11]: And so [2:20:11, 2:20:12]: Um [2:20:12, 2:20:14]: June thirty [2:20:15, 2:20:18]: First. I mean July thirty June thirty first. [2:20:18, 2:20:20]: The last day of June. June. [2:20:21, 2:20:24]: There's only thirty days of June, sir. Third. Well, June 30th. [2:20:24, 2:20:25]: Okay, thank you. [2:20:26, 2:20:29]: That's what I was thinking. I was trying to think how many days in June. [2:20:30, 2:20:32]: All right, Miss Holliday. [2:20:32, 2:20:38]: For clarification, though, just to make sure, could you read back that motion that has been approved? Make sure we got this right, please. [2:20:39, 2:20:39]: All right. [2:20:40, 2:20:41]: The motion said. [2:20:43, 2:20:46]: Motion to approve the judge solicitor. [2:20:46, 2:20:48]: Deputy Court Clerk. [2:20:48, 2:20:50]: And HR coordinator position. [2:20:52, 2:20:57]: With funding for the salary and benefits beginning, it was June one now. [2:20:58, 2:20:59]: June thirty. [2:21:01, 2:21:05]: To coincide with the startup of the police services. [2:21:05, 2:21:08]: That is correct. Is that correct, Mr. Thomas? All right. Thank you. [2:21:10, 2:21:16]: May I add something? With the HR HR position, you're trying to start it up in July. [2:21:18, 2:21:23]: All the same, yes. The HR coordinate, all the same, yes. [2:21:23, 2:21:27]: Okay. So whatever was budgeted proposed for that particular HR [2:21:28, 2:21:28]: Position [2:21:29, 2:21:30]: We'll do six months for [2:21:32, 2:21:33]: July to December. [2:21:34, 2:21:38]: That is correct. And it is it being a new position as well. [2:21:39, 2:21:39]: Okay. [2:21:41, 2:21:49]: So otherwise what you accept, Mr. Thomas, you're accepting that amendment that he's suggesting. You're suggesting you're omitting that or or adding that to your motion. Is that correct? [2:21:49, 2:21:50]: Correct. [2:21:50, 2:21:53]: Okay. So Miss Holliday, you understand that and you have that proper? [2:21:53, 2:21:55]: I do, thank you. [2:21:55, 2:22:05]: All right. And the motion was originally made and seconded by uh Miss Barber, I believe. All right. Okay. If there's no further discussion, all favor of the motion, please indicate. [2:22:07, 2:22:09]: Okay, opposed. [2:22:10, 2:22:12]: Okay, I'm sorry, Ms. Gantt, you are you approved? [2:22:13, 2:22:13]: How to prove it. [2:22:14, 2:22:15]: Ms. Blount, Mr. Blount? [2:22:17, 2:22:33]: Because we're we're just scaling it, right? So we're just increasing their salary when they begin the other part of the work. Right, correct. I really think they're gonna need that in June, but I will go with July. So that's fine. Effective 30. Okay, got it. Uh Mr. Blount. [2:22:34, 2:22:38]: But but b because what's not clear to me, Mayor, is that what what [2:22:38, 2:22:44]: Well we're talking about fulfillment of positions because I think then a position or something like that come open a [2:22:44, 2:22:48]: over there or something like that. How does that affect positions that need to be filled? [2:22:50, 2:23:00]: What okay, wait a minute. So the the uh judge's positions already filled. Not the judge. Okay. In that in there some positions over there that need to be filled like now. [2:23:01, 2:23:10]: Uh yeah, yeah, but that's that that's that that's not part of this motion, sir. That's not um Well, I know it's not a part of but uh but does it affect that portion? [2:23:11, 2:23:20]: I would say I'm gonna say no to that at this point. Uh, cause it's not there's not it's never been discussed. So I'll say no, it doesn't affect that. It does not. [2:23:20, 2:23:21]: I definitely. [2:23:21, 2:23:22]: Right. [2:23:23, 2:23:29]: So what is what is your uh are you uh uh opposing or abstaining, sir? I'm I'm I'm not f I'm fine with that. [2:23:30, 2:23:33]: Okay, so if you're fine with that, that makes a unanimous decision, Miss Ms. Holiday. [2:23:34, 2:23:42]: Okay, Mayor I only have two more. Thank you. Okay, you're welcome. Go ahead, Mr. Mr. Top. Okay, uh I'm gonna take the lease. [2:23:43, 2:23:44]: First, um [2:23:45, 2:23:45]: Uh [2:23:46, 2:23:58]: Let me let me give some background. Um in the budget for the last several years, uh Historic Preservation had a seven thousand dollar um [2:23:58, 2:23:59]: Amount [2:23:59, 2:24:05]: and it was under planning and zoning but in this new budget it has been moved to [2:24:05, 2:24:07]: G I S [2:24:07, 2:24:08]: With no funding. [2:24:09, 2:24:21]: And so historic preservation is a part of our mission statement and the rich history that we have. And we're talking about in increasing and improving tourism. [2:24:21, 2:24:24]: How can you not have a historic preservation? [2:24:24, 2:24:26]: uh entity uh within your city. [2:24:27, 2:24:29]: So with that being said, I moved to [2:24:30, 2:24:30]: Fun. [2:24:31, 2:24:35]: А то рефон де сев таза то гісторик пресевіш. [2:24:37, 2:24:38]: And [2:24:39, 2:24:42]: The part of my motion that is blank. [2:24:43, 2:24:44]: Із [2:24:45, 2:24:49]: Where do we place it? So may I let me let me retract the motion? [2:24:49, 2:24:50]: Um [2:24:51, 2:25:01]: Can can I have a discussion before I make the motion? Well sure, sure you can. And I would thought that uh from a previous discussion that that historical pres historical preservation would go to the Main Street, I thought. [2:25:02, 2:25:16]: Well, that is that that's how I see it as well. Um now, but again, you know, you're adding more responsibility because if you're talking about uh creating a board, then you got to have staffing to to meet with them. [2:25:16, 2:25:22]: you know, uh evening, nightly. So it's a little bit more responsibility. So [2:25:23, 2:25:31]: I don't know how the council sort of view that. Um, I know it should not be on the planning and I should not be on the GIS for sure. [2:25:32, 2:25:32]: Okay. [2:25:33, 2:25:35]: So in my motion I would like to [2:25:36, 2:25:50]: put a a placeholder. I think I think we all may be in agreement with the with the funding amount. We can we can have this right right. We can have discussion. I mean whatever I mean the council can uh uh voice their opinion at this point if you're if you're willing to listen to that [2:25:50, 2:25:51]: Mayor. [2:25:51, 2:25:52]: Yes, ma'am, go ahead, please. [2:25:53, 2:26:13]: I would be in favor once we get historic preservation committee and everything up and running. Um, because this is not uh it's a nominal amount, 7,000, I would be in favor of amending our budget at the time we're ready for it. Um, for instance, although Main Street, we we we also [2:26:13, 2:26:33]: Always target with historic preservation in Main Street, mainly because we have the MLK Senior Heritage Trail. Um, and that is in the Main Street area. But historic preservation could be all over the city of Stockbridge. And so it's something for us to take into consideration, whether it was part of the development authority or whether [2:26:33, 2:26:42]: Because whatever the case may be, it would have its own separate department once we establish it, once we establish that particular committee. [2:26:42, 2:26:52]: it would no longer be a part of any other separate entity or organization. I mean, it wouldn't be on down DDA, it wouldn't be Main Street, it would be the historic preservation. [2:26:52, 2:27:09]: And so I think that we should wait to I agree. I don't think any of us would vote against it. I just think that when the time comes, we can always amend the agenda to add that$7,000 and a new line item for historic reservation committee. [2:27:11, 2:27:11]: Okay. [2:27:12, 2:27:14]: Any other council comments for discussion? [2:27:16, 2:27:28]: Uh so okay, so we're done with uh the councilman Thomas. Are you rested? Do you get all well no I I I I'm trying to pull back on the motion because uh the motion would include the amount and [2:27:29, 2:27:44]: what department, you know, where to place it. And so when I make the motion, I want to be able to include where we would place it. And that is the concern, where would we place it? I understand what uh councilwoman Gantt just just just sort of said, but [2:27:45, 2:27:48]: I I would still let you go forward and put the funds in, but [2:27:49, 2:27:50]: Um [2:27:50, 2:27:57]: And I guess we can just leave um where we will put. I guess we could leave it on the GIS for right now and then move it later. [2:27:57, 2:28:04]: Personally, I have to tell you it doesn't make sense to leave it there in my thought. But you know, that's what I would say. It doesn't make sense to leave it there. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [2:28:05, 2:28:10]: Um when we last discussed this, uh I think we're still in the same sense. [2:28:11, 2:28:14]: Go ahead, Mr. Blount. Excuse me, Mr. Alexander. Go ahead, Mr. Blount. [2:28:16, 2:28:22]: When we last discussed this, um we did discuss this previously and the same thing we talked about is getting aboard. [2:28:22, 2:28:30]: Uh and and whatever that board is, though though uh because someone came to I can't remember where we what was it, retreat or what. [2:28:30, 2:28:35]: That board uh even goes out and seek uh um um [2:28:36, 2:28:51]: They can see uh grants and all of this stuff. Uh so it's a it's a separate board. Now I agree, it's a separate board from uh any it's a separate board from GIS, it's a separate board from DDA, Main Street, or under that. It's a separate board in itself, a separate entity in itself that is funded. [2:28:51, 2:28:55]: In order to be focused totally on uh historical preservation. [2:28:56, 2:28:59]: So I'm in agreement with that, but I don't know why we would veer from [2:29:00, 2:29:03]: uh saying that it's not something needed today. [2:29:03, 2:29:05]: Uh right now while we [2:29:06, 2:29:12]: Fund it now versus waiting until it's needed and then we just amend the agenda since the because of the amount. [2:29:14, 2:29:19]: Well, I I'd like to go ahead and find an actually I was thinking about even uh taking it to ten thousand, but [2:29:19, 2:29:38]: Uh I think you got another hand up, Mayor Ford. Then I I'll I'll make a motion in a few minutes. Okay, Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. See, I've been on this council for five years and no I'm not falling for the okie dope because as soon as we don't put it in the budget and we got to do a budget amendment, it's gonna oh they gotta do a budget amendment. [2:29:38, 2:29:47]: And then it's going to be, oh, we got to take it out of fund balance or somewhere else. No, we're going to put it in. We're putting things in the budget that we want in the budget. [2:29:47, 2:29:50]: So budget members are few. [2:29:50, 2:29:52]: And far between, we will do them. [2:29:52, 2:29:55]: But in this case, in the end, every time, Miss Swell. [2:29:56, 2:29:58]: You know, we gotta do another budget amendment. [2:29:58, 2:30:18]: We're doing things appropriately. We put them in in the budget because we plan on moving forward with this, because we haven't done it uh in the past. So I'm for moving forward with it. And uh, you know, I don't see anything wrong with 10,000 if you want to go to 10,000 because it's export it's important because it even if it's put on the main street purview, it is city. [2:30:18, 2:30:20]: It's anywhere. [2:30:20, 2:30:23]: So I I I motion to fund [2:30:23, 2:30:26]: uh historic preservation to ten thousand. [2:30:27, 2:30:31]: And uh let it remain in in GIS. [2:30:33, 2:30:40]: All right, just motion and made second. Council Thomas, it's actually in pr it's it's actually in plan zoning. [2:30:41, 2:30:53]: No, in the yeah it's a budget. In the new budget, it's on the GF. I see Mrs. Johnson is on. Mel, maybe uh Mrs. Johnson may want to comment. But yeah, she's ready to she was ready to make a comment. [2:30:54, 2:31:00]: I I'm trying to tell you it was a payment made in 2019. [2:31:00, 2:31:07]: That's why it showed up on the budget sheet because it was a payment made in 2019. You do not have a budget. [2:31:08, 2:31:14]: That's in GIS for historical preservation. The budget for seven thousand is actually in [2:31:15, 2:31:16]: Play it in his own. Oh [2:31:17, 2:31:35]: Okay, I'm I'm I'm okay. I'm okay with planning his own as a placeholder. But mayor, if you would uh recognize Mr. Johnson, just get up. But I'm okay, but I'm okay with that, uh Mr. Wiggins. Well I was gonna do that, so go ahead, Ms. Johnson. The floor is yours. I I have nothing additional. Um Mr. Wiggins did um statement. [2:31:35, 2:31:37]: say what I was gonna say, so [2:31:37, 2:31:38]: Nothing additional. [2:31:39, 2:31:39]: Okay. [2:31:39, 2:31:43]: So um Mayor, I would I will uh mend the motion. [2:31:44, 2:31:46]: Uh I motion to fund [2:31:46, 2:31:50]: Um historic preservation uh up to ten thousand. [2:31:51, 2:31:52]: Um and [2:31:52, 2:31:56]: Planning and zoning as a as a placeholder. Second. [2:31:56, 2:31:58]: All right. Motion made in second. [2:31:58, 2:32:01]: If there's no further discussion, all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [2:32:02, 2:32:09]: One, two, three, four. Okay, it's unanimous decision. Fantastic. Okay. Okay. This is my last motion, Mayor. All right. Go ahead, sir. [2:32:10, 2:32:11]: Motion to amend [2:32:12, 2:32:15]: The city's organization of chart. [2:32:15, 2:32:21]: to include the position of assistant public works director. [2:32:22, 2:32:23]: Job description. [2:32:24, 2:32:26]: salary and benefits. [2:32:26, 2:32:27]: Effective [2:32:28, 2:32:29]: January one [2:32:30, 2:32:31]: Twenty twenty two. [2:32:32, 2:32:33]: Circuit. [2:32:34, 2:32:53]: Okay. Um on that discussion point, um, okay, I I like to just uh do you want to explain any further, Mr. Thomas, before I move on to something else here? Okay, as you know, um uh it is in the um the job description and the position already exists. It's not a new position. [2:32:54, 2:32:56]: I I don't want to get into [2:32:56, 2:32:57]: The reasoning [2:32:58, 2:33:00]: For the position [2:33:00, 2:33:03]: I I will say this. One one issue is [2:33:03, 2:33:06]: Uh in the qualifications. [2:33:06, 2:33:10]: Uh, it called for the person to have a degree in engineering. [2:33:10, 2:33:14]: And you know, we do not have uh anyone on staff with that background. [2:33:15, 2:33:19]: So every time we needed an engineer, we always have to outsource. [2:33:20, 2:33:23]: That's one issue that I can talk about. There are other issues. [2:33:24, 2:33:26]: Uh but I just thought of just leave it at that one. [2:33:26, 2:33:31]: If any other council member wanna sort of elaborate on that, uh it you know, it's open, but [2:33:32, 2:33:33]: Um [2:33:33, 2:33:34]: I I sort of think it's needed. [2:33:36, 2:33:37]: Mayor Protem, go ahead, please. [2:33:37, 2:33:46]: Yeah, I think Councilman Thomas is on to something right there. And uh in this particular department, we're right, we need to key in. We need an expert on staff. [2:33:46, 2:33:47]: An engineer that can [2:33:48, 2:33:50]: uh reprimand what we're trying to do. [2:33:51, 2:33:53]: Uh, in terms of where we're trying to go for the city. [2:33:54, 2:33:57]: And in certain areas we need um [2:33:57, 2:34:17]: uh that expertise and it seemed to to be able to uh bring the city uh to the next level that mr uh mr ayers a ceo but we need a co-o uh in that department to be able to uh as an operations person to be able to bring everything all together in the year of accountability. [2:34:17, 2:34:25]: and results because as Mr. Aaron has already said, he's already taken the ball and said, this is what we're going to be able to. [2:34:26, 2:34:26]: Hold him. [2:34:27, 2:34:30]: uh accountable for in terms of where we're trying to go with the city. [2:34:30, 2:34:33]: But now he has some additional support. [2:34:34, 2:34:36]: Uh in an operations expert. [2:34:36, 2:34:39]: that will be able to brought it brought back inside a degree person [2:34:40, 2:34:43]: With an engineering degree that can go out on those job sites. [2:34:43, 2:34:48]: And point us in the right direction uh as well. So I'm in full support of this position. [2:34:49, 2:34:52]: Mr. Aaron, what kind of comments and concerns do you have, sir? [2:34:56, 2:35:06]: Oh one of the things is that I know people who want a degree, but there are people out there that are extremely knowledgeable, might not have a degree. [2:35:06, 2:35:08]: That's extremely knowledgeable of [2:35:08, 2:35:28]: Public works functions and operations, I and I wish we'd consider a person's experience. The degree does not always qualify you. Experience goes a long way as well. And I've worked with people that have experience, might not have a degree, but they can do just as much or more as someone with the [2:35:28, 2:35:30]: degree because they have that [2:35:31, 2:35:41]: on ground experience of they've done construction, they've done utility, they've done civil work, but they just don't have a degree, but they have the knowledge to perform those duties. [2:35:42, 2:35:43]: All right. [2:35:45, 2:35:46]: Uh Mr Blount, go ahead, please. [2:35:48, 2:35:53]: Um I you know, some of the best mechanics I ever seen aren't certified master mechanics, but [2:35:54, 2:36:03]: I agree with Mr. Aaron. You know, uh, I would believe as an apartment head, if this council tells them what we're looking for and the type of person we want in any position that's in public works. [2:36:04, 2:36:06]: That is up to him to make sure that person is uh [2:36:07, 2:36:14]: person is hired and found. And if it's if we put a stipulation of a degree in there, I agree with Mr. Aaron once again. [2:36:14, 2:36:24]: that the most qualified person that he would see would then would be de be disqualified because they don't meet the criteria of a degree, but they may need meet the criteria of experience. [2:36:26, 2:36:29]: Okay. Any other comments, council? [2:36:30, 2:36:36]: Uh Miss Wheeler, uh as the HR director, do you have any comment on this uh is uh issue at all? [2:36:37, 2:36:40]: No, I just provided the job description that was previously [2:36:41, 2:36:46]: that the city previously had and just uh wanted Mr. Aaron to make sure he reviewed it and [2:36:46, 2:36:48]: had all the [2:36:48, 2:36:50]: qualifications and experience that he needed. [2:36:51, 2:36:52]: uh for that position. [2:36:53, 2:36:53]: Okay. [2:36:55, 2:36:57]: Thank you. Any other comments at all? [2:36:57, 2:36:58]: Yeah, [2:36:58, 2:36:59]: Go ahead. [2:36:59, 2:37:02]: No, I I don't have a degree myself, but you know what I understand. [2:37:02, 2:37:06]: That uh a lot of things are put in and there is some value to knowledge. [2:37:07, 2:37:13]: But you know, I I I appreciate people who are knowledge and are educated as well. And sometimes you can put both of those. [2:37:14, 2:37:16]: Uh up under the same caveat. [2:37:16, 2:37:29]: And sometimes having that degree brings culture and other things. Because sometimes, you know, one of my bosses said one thing to me that was really important uh when we were going to school. And those school, he said, you know. [2:37:29, 2:37:32]: You can know the material inside and out. [2:37:33, 2:37:52]: you can know it, but you become so focused on the technical parts of it that you miss that experience. And sometimes that's what the degree person brings in is a overall experience to the to to it, not just the technical side. So that's that's why I go with it in myself. [2:37:54, 2:37:55]: Okay. You know the comments? [2:37:56, 2:38:02]: Motions bit Mr. Burke, please. [2:38:03, 2:38:12]: Uh second lieutenants was looked down on because when they went into the field, they had no idea about the experience or what needed to be done in the field. And you know exactly what I mean. [2:38:12, 2:38:15]: I just you can have you can have a title. [2:38:16, 2:38:22]: But nothing beats experience. Nothing qualifies you for the experience, but the experience. [2:38:22, 2:38:28]: You had a title. I've seen many people pushed out of job opportunities that had the experience. [2:38:29, 2:38:30]: But because they didn't have the title. [2:38:31, 2:38:35]: And the title necessarily wasn't the one more qualified for the position. [2:38:35, 2:38:38]: So I wouldn't I would listen to the public works director. [2:38:39, 2:38:41]: And say if he feels that [2:38:42, 2:38:42]: Десь [2:38:43, 2:38:49]: would would hinder getting the most experienced person for the position, then I would have to go with the department head. [2:38:50, 2:38:51]: Right. Ms. Gantt. [2:38:52, 2:38:58]: Please. Okay. Just a couple of comments. One, we've never done our budget like this before. Um [2:38:59, 2:39:13]: True. This is not normal. Um, I think we all need to consider when we do our budget retreats, when we talk to the staff the first time. Um, because this is kind of last minute and [2:39:13, 2:39:15]: We're kind of throwing numbers together. [2:39:15, 2:39:35]: So I have a really big concern about that. Um I I whether we do go back to the finance committee way of doing things the way we used to, or we do what we've done previous years. This is this is something brand new. Um we're just throwing things out right now. And my concern is one. [2:39:36, 2:39:44]: Is that position already was it already budgeted for and planned for, or are we just putting it out here tonight? [2:39:44, 2:39:56]: And if it is just being put out here tonight, what is that salary and how will that increase our budget? Again, we're throwing out new items out here. Um, we had an assistant. [2:39:56, 2:40:08]: uh uh Polar Works at one time, we got rid of them. We got one, we get rid of it. You know, we're adding to the job description. Nothing wrong with that. I just think this is again our third reading. [2:40:08, 2:40:14]: And I really don't think we have a concrete um hold on our budget. [2:40:15, 2:40:16]: In general. [2:40:16, 2:40:22]: Um so uh tell can you tell me is this if this it positions added? [2:40:22, 2:40:24]: Or we already have taken this into consideration. [2:40:25, 2:40:34]: Mr. Mayor, if I if I could respond to that, um it was presented uh in September at the budget retreat. But let me just say this about [2:40:34, 2:40:36]: Going forward. Uh [2:40:36, 2:40:40]: I'm I'm not one to bank on [2:40:40, 2:40:45]: my past laws. Uh as some council members indicated. [2:40:45, 2:40:50]: Uh it's about accountability. It's about how do we improve. [2:40:50, 2:41:04]: service delivery uh to our citizens? How do we improve um you know the quality of life for our citizens here in Stockwell? That is the reason why I was in favor of public public safety. So for me, [2:41:04, 2:41:24]: It's all about how we go forward. How do we improve? I'm not looking back to how we used to do things because all that was dysfunctional. Uh I see where we need to improve in. But one thing that I do and I encourage all council members, I get into the budget every year. So this is not uh a last minute. [2:41:24, 2:41:35]: Deal for me. This is not new for me. I do the same thing every year. I present this every year. What I liked about this, what I attempted to do. [2:41:36, 2:41:47]: Uh and I should have to do this as far as encouraging council members to reach out to to uh department head and to get into the budget. So [2:41:47, 2:41:51]: You look, don't look at the process. I think we just need to look in the mirror. [2:41:52, 2:42:12]: But for me, uh I'm going to push forward to improve um service delivery to all of our citizens. How do we be more efficient? How do we be more effective in what we do every day? And that's that's my take on all of that. So, Mayor, I know we still have a couple other things to [2:42:11, 2:42:24]: to go through. I know you're gonna call for the vote. Um, but I did want uh Mrs. Johnson as soon we can get the vote, I wanted her to, I don't have a motion, but I wanted Mrs. Johnson to speak to [2:42:24, 2:42:26]: Uh some code enforcement items. [2:42:27, 2:42:27]: Um [2:42:28, 2:42:28]: Um [2:42:29, 2:42:34]: the uh vacant house registry and how that is going to improve. [2:42:35, 2:42:39]: uh the look in various neighborhood where you have vacant houses, how that [2:42:40, 2:42:40]: Um [2:42:41, 2:42:45]: you know, sort of sort of trends toward nuoses and abatement. [2:42:46, 2:42:53]: All of these things that I'm talking about, this is where all of us need to be. How do we improve? [2:42:53, 2:43:11]: The city, how do we improve the look of the city? You know, we have a nuisance can be anything. It could be noise, it could be a vacant house where you have um vagrants living in, like councilman towns, it could be it could be all of that. So I'm just saying. [2:43:11, 2:43:31]: Um, did I hear someone call my name? Yeah, yeah, that's not what we were talking about. And I I'm not not trying to bear off, but I don't want to do another 30-minute tangent like we did a couple weeks of me a couple meetings ago. Um what I'm saying to you is, and it's not you in in general, I'm saying our process has gone left. [2:43:31, 2:43:51]: We completely are throwing out things that haven't been addressed to mayor and council until our separate budget meeting. Councilman. And so that's what I'm saying. I have attempted to stay on track with everything that I presented. And I think everything I presented was in line with the budget. [2:43:51, 2:44:11]: So maybe no, I'm saying that this this new this has been new. Okay, hold on, hold on, folks. Hold on, folks. This has been presented tonight, is what I'm saying. Stand by. Stand by please. Now, Mr. Mr. Thomas, a couple council members mentioned about the educational aspect. You know, your motion has already been approved. Are you willing to change your motion to [2:44:11, 2:44:25]: uh eliminate the per se or add to eliminate ad anything about experience and also edgy educational aspect on the engineer. My my motion stand is red. Okay. All right. All right. So I just want to double check that. [2:44:25, 2:44:26]: Uh the [2:44:26, 2:44:35]: Ma uh if you don't mind, we we got a motion. Yeah, and you second the motion. I'd like to get a vote here if you don't mind. No problem. Go right ahead. All right. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [2:44:37, 2:44:38]: Okay, I got three [2:44:38, 2:44:43]: All right, uh Ms uh Ms. Gatt, are you for the motion or four again? [2:44:44, 2:44:57]: I don't know if the motion we ne I never got an answer on whether or not this was new to the budget or not. Or I mean, w this was just brought to us tonight to add to the budget and what that salary amount would be. I I don't know yet. [2:44:59, 2:45:05]: Okay. Uh Mr. Wiggins, I don't know if you can answer that question or not. We do need to know that. [2:45:06, 2:45:12]: I don't I don't know the salary for Miss Wheeler wouldn't know that, right? Who in the right mind would do that? [2:45:12, 2:45:20]: Okay, hold on, stop, stop. Mr. Wigan, you and I had a discussion. [2:45:21, 2:45:23]: Mr. Wigan, we had this discussion. [2:45:25, 2:45:28]: I know we had discussion, but I don't know the the amount. [2:45:29, 2:45:36]: Well it it's I mean the information is there. And I I hope no blue don't worry about it. I vote. [2:45:36, 2:45:38]: I don't want to throw blame, but [2:45:39, 2:45:47]: We have to be proactive and in discussions. Okay. Someone has to just go forward and and do the homework, do the research, because [2:45:48, 2:46:03]: Okay, I I can talk some more about this off off. All right. Okay. So so we made we made the we made the vote the vote. We voted. Uh and I got three positive votes on that. Miss Ganttz says she votes no. Mr. Blount, what is your desire, sir? [2:46:04, 2:46:13]: Mayor, I have to agree that we're throwing in a a position, we're throwing in the mountain, we have no idea. We're gonna write a blank check for a new position. I got to vote no. I mean uh [2:46:13, 2:46:16]: At least get some information on it. I vote no. [2:46:16, 2:46:30]: And for the record, and I want this on the record, Madam Clerk, I'm voting no because we don't have the information. We're throwing out a new position and we're just throwing out adding things to a budget, not getting a total on the balance, period. [2:46:31, 2:46:36]: And it's irresponsible and it's wrong. It's not it's not a new. [2:46:37, 2:46:44]: It's it's it's not a new position. The position it the position s is situated on the um organizational chart at this time. Is that correct? [2:46:44, 2:46:48]: No, it's not it's a new position because we didn't have it. We let it go. [2:46:48, 2:47:08]: So we had a lawsuit on it, remember, at one point. So we let it go. We didn't have another position, and we haven't had one for quite some time. Okay. So now this just came up this meeting tonight. Okay, thank you. This is a new position. Okay, got it. Sir. Yeah, go ahead, Mary Proteff. Stand by Miss Barber. Stand by Miss Barber. [2:47:08, 2:47:10]: Stand by for a second, please. Go ahead, mayor plot in. [2:47:11, 2:47:15]: Look let less understand one thing. The city had this position already. [2:47:15, 2:47:17]: We had an individual in it. [2:47:18, 2:47:31]: The council made a decision several years ago, an errant decision, to remove this position. We're reestablishing something that should have never been taken out of the budget in the very first place. [2:47:32, 2:47:36]: The citizens who live in Stockbridge, they see the difference. [2:47:36, 2:47:51]: They saw it. I saw it. That's why I ran for office. When that position was removed, removed, I could see the difference. Nobody didn't have to tell me the difference. There's no difference. I was at the Thanksgiving uh dinner with the staff and luncheon. [2:47:52, 2:47:54]: And I was talking to some of the public works employees. [2:47:54, 2:47:56]: And they said, you know what? [2:47:56, 2:47:59]: When Ted Spricklin was city manager of this city. [2:48:00, 2:48:00]: He didn't play. [2:48:01, 2:48:03]: If he called down there to the shop. [2:48:03, 2:48:05]: Somebody better answer. [2:48:05, 2:48:08]: And he held the people to that account. [2:48:08, 2:48:20]: that somebody was going to answer. And in those positions, when they had an assistant city, that person knew that that phone needed to be answered. And they knew what the standard was for the city. [2:48:20, 2:48:35]: We're correcting an error that this council took place several years ago. A new council that came in under this, under some uh precarious circumstances, made a decision to remove the position. It was the wrong position. [2:48:36, 2:48:41]: That same council eliminated the economic development directive in tenuous economic time. [2:48:42, 2:48:42]: Guess what? [2:48:43, 2:48:46]: We're correcting the rights. We're making this right. [2:48:46, 2:48:49]: And this position need to be restored. Thank you. [2:48:49, 2:48:50]: All right, Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [2:48:55, 2:49:05]: Okay, we've already um voted on that last item, right? Are we able to move for it? Because I have three three zero uh three two. Three two was a vote as I understand it. [2:49:06, 2:49:26]: So I have a couple of items that I want to well stand stand by before you before stand by. Mr. Thomas, was that the last one of your group that you want to? No, that was that that was the last motion. I wanted to give uh Mrs. Johnson the opportunity. I know she's sort of been been sort of staying with us. Uh just wanted her to give her an opportunity to talk about code enforcement. [2:49:26, 2:49:42]: And I'll ask her to be brief if she can. Code enforcement, the uh vacant registry, and how that's going to impact the city of Stockbridge. So in reference to the 2022 budget, is what you're referring to. Yes. Okay. [2:49:42, 2:49:45]: Okay, stand by Miss Barber. Miss Goy, Miss Johnson. [2:49:46, 2:49:49]: Sure, so the um they can registry. [2:49:50, 2:50:10]: Um that we have is a document we put together to identify properties throughout the city that have been vacant for a long time, or at least more than six months or longer, and have the property owners to register those buildings. Because we have the opportunity, one, to ensure [2:50:10, 2:50:30]: That they are in co-compliance, two, to be able to provide this information and keep it uh keep it under our belts for economic development in case um Mr. Peters, Dr. Peterson is looking to try and fill these spaces. And three, for the [2:50:30, 2:50:50]: the purpose of opportunities for facade improvements, for grants and things like that to bring the property up and make it more attractive to new developers and builders in the that want to come to the city of Stockbridge. So what code enforcement has done towards this effort to continue [2:50:50, 2:51:10]: To um forge ahead with vacant registry because we don't have a lot of people just coming to us saying, Yes, I've got a vacant property. Here's my fee for that. We go out um twice a month, which we call a blitz event, which allows co-enforcement officers to go. [2:51:10, 2:51:12]: to one single commercial plaza. [2:51:13, 2:51:18]: and ensure compliance with business license permits signage. [2:51:18, 2:51:20]: Um and the like. [2:51:20, 2:51:26]: And then we collect information, create um education, educational opportunities and [2:51:26, 2:51:39]: speak with the property owners there so that we can start that process. So that's what we're doing current currently to try and boost and get more business in the city. [2:51:40, 2:51:41]: Okay. [2:51:42, 2:51:51]: So is there some type of and maybe I missed it, but some type of dollar amount that you're looking for here or something that's that's been identified here for for the 2022 budget and in this aspect? [2:51:54, 2:52:14]: No, they're not a particular we we have um as a result of the blitz events that started in June, we've had twice a month. Um we've collected uh fifteen thousand dollars uh plus just from uh making sure people have their annual inspections. People are current on their 2020. [2:52:14, 2:52:22]: 21 licenses, any signed permits or other permits that they have not applied for. So, I mean, this is a clear revenue generator. [2:52:22, 2:52:35]: And the vacant registry will also be a revenue revenue generator as it pertains to economic development and getting businesses into those spaces. And that's what Dr. Peterson would do on the economic development front. [2:52:36, 2:52:38]: I have a question for Ms. Johnson. Yeah, go right here, please, sir. [2:52:39, 2:52:54]: Yeah, we had uh I know you had mentioned previously about a fee schedule for these uh violations. Is it necessary to wait until the ULDC pass or can you just bring the fee schedule forward to us because that needs to be that needs to happen now. [2:52:55, 2:53:15]: Right. So in in light of the budget um the trees and budget, you know, meetings we had, I didn't want to bring anything at the end of the year. Um, it is scheduled to come before you guys on June 10th. So we'll have those documents available to you because we do not currently have a fee schedule for code enforcement violations. There are [2:53:15, 2:53:26]: violation there's fees for maybe one or two violations but nothing else and we're trying to ensure that uh we don't have or or create um [2:53:26, 2:53:30]: um inadvertently create, you know, repeat offenders. [2:53:30, 2:53:49]: So you said June 10th or January 10th. January 10th. Okay, thank you. That's right. Okay. We're we want to bombard you guys before the end of the year with five or six schedules. I I don't want to prolong, but I just wanted Mr. Johnson to have an opportunity to just because I know we uh [2:53:49, 2:53:51]: Talking budget and I know um [2:53:51, 2:54:06]: Public works, code enforcement, you know, that's what folks see out in the in the community. And so I think going forward, we'll we'll have to get back and talk more about uh code enforcement and um public work issues because that's what see [2:54:07, 2:54:24]: That's where I get most of the complaints from. And so that was one of my reasons for sort of going down this road. But Mrs. Johnson, I just want to thank you for that. And I don't want us to sort of get off track again. And I know we have some other things uh to discuss, but I just want you to give an opportunity just to talk about those things. But I I thank you. [2:54:25, 2:54:26]: Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. Thank you. [2:54:30, 2:54:32]: Thank you. Um [2:54:34, 2:54:44]: So I wanted to make a motion um to update the personnel policy so that it states um new staff members must be employed for one full year. [2:54:45, 2:54:46]: In order to be eligible. [2:54:47, 2:54:51]: for cost of living increases, merit increases, and bonuses. [2:54:54, 2:54:54]: Okay. [2:54:55, 2:55:02]: So a second. So it's uh it's the uh the new employees aren't eligible for bonuses. [2:55:03, 2:55:05]: And then what are the other two? [2:55:06, 2:55:16]: Employees are not eligible for bonuses, for cost of living increases, marit increases, and bonuses until after. [2:55:16, 2:55:18]: One full year of employment. [2:55:20, 2:55:21]: Okay, uh [2:55:22, 2:55:25]: Would you be opposed to no bonuses in one year? [2:55:25, 2:55:29]: But if somebody's been here for eight or nine months. [2:55:29, 2:55:37]: And then they're due a raise at the end of the year. If they if they have to be here a calendar year, they're gonna have to wait almost two years. [2:55:37, 2:55:40]: Maybe there's a trigger point, maybe eight months or longer. [2:55:41, 2:55:42]: Uh on the um [2:55:43, 2:55:46]: The yearly increase if they're here eight months. [2:55:46, 2:55:51]: Then because if they're here nine months or they're here ten months or God forbid eleven months. [2:55:52, 2:55:54]: And then they come to the end of the year. [2:55:55, 2:55:55]: then [2:55:56, 2:56:02]: They gotta wait another full cycle. They've been here eleven months and then they gotta wait another full cycle to get a raise. [2:56:02, 2:56:04]: So is there some wiggle room on that? [2:56:05, 2:56:08]: No, I think you misunderst you're misunderstanding. [2:56:08, 2:56:11]: Um and if I may the whole purpose of [2:56:12, 2:56:15]: implementing this is because we've got [2:56:15, 2:56:15]: Yeah. [2:56:16, 2:56:20]: Chief Tramer just came on board. I'm sorry to use him as an example. [2:56:21, 2:56:23]: my understanding of this bonus schedule. [2:56:24, 2:56:29]: Everyone gets a bonus. Chief Transport I'm I'm okay with the bonus and let me clarify one year. [2:56:29, 2:56:32]: So one year is an anniversary date. [2:56:32, 2:56:43]: It is standard for new employees to receive a performance review or an appraisal and they get an annual review and a merit increase after a year. [2:56:44, 2:56:56]: So after twelve months, their anniversary date, I believe that's what the employee policy is, they get a merit increase or at least a performance review. [2:56:56, 2:56:59]: All I want is to make sure. [2:57:00, 2:57:04]: That new staff members, we've got a whole police force that's coming on board. [2:57:04, 2:57:05]: Right. [2:57:07, 2:57:09]: No one makes sure. [2:57:09, 2:57:12]: that we have policies in place. [2:57:12, 2:57:18]: to make sure their salary increases, cost of living increases. [2:57:18, 2:57:19]: Power is it. [2:57:20, 2:57:22]: that they at least serve one year for the city. [2:57:23, 2:57:24]: That's all. [2:57:24, 2:57:33]: You you you you made a very good point there because after they start, then they're r ink it would be on an annual basis, and you brought that up. So second. [2:57:34, 2:57:35]: All right. [2:57:35, 2:57:36]: Further discussion. [2:57:39, 2:57:43]: Miss Wheeler, you you must it's in your area of responsibility. What kind of comments do you have? [2:57:45, 2:57:49]: Of a bonus is basically um [2:57:50, 2:57:51]: Therefore [2:57:52, 2:57:54]: It's included in the budget along with the merit. [2:57:55, 2:57:59]: So normally employees receive the bonus in November. [2:58:00, 2:58:01]: Of each year. [2:58:02, 2:58:08]: Along and and the merit of the five percent includes three percent, merit, two percent. [2:58:09, 2:58:09]: Um [2:58:10, 2:58:18]: bonus, I would think. John is my correct or is that the cola is three percent and the bonus is two percent, which e the bonus is equals up to one week's pay. [2:58:19, 2:58:21]: Right. Three percent is colder, two percent. [2:58:22, 2:58:26]: Uh for the bonus, which is not added to the salary. [2:58:29, 2:58:30]: Yeah. [2:58:31, 2:58:34]: So how that's what normally happens right now. Is that what you're saying? [2:58:35, 2:58:38]: Yeah, colas are given out once a year at the beginning of the year. [2:58:38, 2:58:39]: That's correct. [2:58:39, 2:58:40]: They keep up with cost of living. [2:58:41, 2:58:47]: And that happens at uh begin of the year, no matter how long you've been employed with the uh with the city, is that correct? [2:58:47, 2:58:48]: Correct. [2:58:48, 2:58:56]: And what we're proposing is I think what's proposed right now that that would not happen unless they're employed with one full year. Is that correct? [2:58:56, 2:59:03]: Right. So any new employees that would be hired effective January one, twenty twenty two. [2:59:03, 2:59:08]: would wait until January of twenty twenty three to receive the COLA. [2:59:09, 2:59:14]: And if you get hired in say November of the previous year and you've only been employed for [2:59:14, 2:59:20]: for two months you have to wait uh more than one full year to get the bonus you're talking about. Is that correct? [2:59:21, 2:59:26]: Well, the bonuses aren't given out until November, so the bonus would not be given out. [2:59:26, 2:59:29]: until November of twenty twenty two. [2:59:29, 2:59:29]: Mm-hmm. [2:59:30, 2:59:31]: We're in December. [2:59:32, 2:59:35]: Or in December. So September thirteenth. [2:59:35, 2:59:37]: So those individuals [2:59:37, 2:59:41]: You would have to make a determination if you're hired prior to [2:59:41, 2:59:43]: November first or [2:59:44, 2:59:45]: Are you you know? [2:59:46, 2:59:48]: If I if a person gets hired in January. [2:59:49, 2:59:51]: They technically would be eligible for the bonus. [2:59:52, 2:59:54]: of November twenty twenty two. [2:59:56, 2:59:58]: Okay. Correct, Miss Barber? [2:59:59, 3:00:04]: Or are you talking about anyone hired as of November 2022? [3:00:04, 3:00:07]: Would not be eligible until November twenty twenty three. [3:00:08, 3:00:15]: Certainly there we staff can make exceptions, but the rule is [3:00:15, 3:00:17]: All employees. [3:00:17, 3:00:18]: Must be employed. [3:00:19, 3:00:20]: For a full year. [3:00:21, 3:00:24]: In order to be eligible to receive [3:00:24, 3:00:29]: Cost of living increases, merit increases, and bonuses. [3:00:30, 3:00:32]: I have a second. [3:00:32, 3:00:34]: Yeah, you gotta submit it for temp second down. [3:00:35, 3:00:42]: Okay. Um so yes, you are right, Miss Wheeler. That is exactly my um thought process. Um [3:00:44, 3:00:44]: For [3:00:45, 3:00:48]: For instance, the police force that's coming on board. [3:00:49, 3:00:50]: In July. [3:00:51, 3:00:52]: Come January. [3:00:52, 3:00:55]: They're under the current policy. [3:00:55, 3:00:58]: They are eligible for cost of living increases. [3:00:58, 3:01:01]: bonus and merit increases. [3:01:02, 3:01:04]: When they would have only been employed. [3:01:04, 3:01:05]: Six months. [3:01:06, 3:01:07]: Okay. [3:01:07, 3:01:08]: And I want to [3:01:10, 3:01:11]: Restrict. [3:01:11, 3:01:12]: That [3:01:13, 3:01:13]: Um [3:01:14, 3:01:14]: So I'm [3:01:15, 3:01:19]: So I just want to move forward with this. It has to be a full year. [3:01:19, 3:01:27]: It just makes sense. Yeah. Well, and on that example, that means that they'll have to wait till the uh till 23 before the following year. [3:01:27, 3:01:29]: Correct. All right. [3:01:30, 3:01:31]: Mr. Blank, go ahead, please. [3:01:31, 3:01:39]: Mary, well it sounded like you you you're cutting out that one mass time to give it to everybody. What you're saying is that to do an evaluation of everybody's uh [3:01:39, 3:01:41]: Everybody's uh hired date. [3:01:42, 3:01:46]: So it cuts out, you know, we we do this ceremonial thing with bonuses. [3:01:46, 3:01:53]: But what they're saying is that your cost of living, your increase in bonus and all that gonna be on your anniversary day. [3:01:53, 3:02:01]: Uh not this big mass uh ceremony that we do uh every year. You can't do that because [3:02:02, 3:02:07]: Uh you you you know, you're talking about all these employee. If you're talking about a year, you're talking about their anniversary day. [3:02:08, 3:02:11]: And so how do you give up how do you have this mass ceremony? [3:02:11, 3:02:15]: to do it when you're talking giving it even now, employees right now. [3:02:16, 3:02:21]: You you're still talking about anniversary date. So is it gonna be established anniversary date? [3:02:22, 3:02:25]: Now or is it gonna be those that are doing it yearly now? [3:02:25, 3:02:33]: Still get it yearly how it's been going, that's been here, but the newly coming in higher are gonna get it on their anniversary date. Their anniversary date could be. [3:02:33, 3:02:44]: in a June or July, but everybody has been doing it in November. So are you saying everybody now stay in November that's in November, but everybody from here forward on the anniversary day? Is that what's [3:02:44, 3:02:46]: Is that what you're saying? Is that what's being said here? [3:02:46, 3:02:48]: I'm just wanting some clarity. [3:02:50, 3:02:53]: I d I will think that uh said is [3:02:53, 3:02:58]: I want to make sure any new hires from this point. [3:02:59, 3:03:00]: That comes on board. [3:03:01, 3:03:02]: Must be employed. [3:03:03, 3:03:04]: For a full year. [3:03:04, 3:03:06]: before they are eligible. [3:03:06, 3:03:11]: to receive any cost of living increase, maritime increase, or bonus. [3:03:11, 3:03:16]: As far as the schedule in which these [3:03:16, 3:03:20]: incentives are given, they can remain the same. [3:03:21, 3:03:22]: But my motion. [3:03:23, 3:03:25]: Is in regards to [3:03:25, 3:03:27]: New employees. [3:03:27, 3:03:30]: Must be employed for one full year. [3:03:31, 3:03:32]: You can keep the schedule. [3:03:33, 3:03:37]: But I just want to make sure that they are employed for a full year. [3:03:38, 3:03:39]: May Mayor. [3:03:39, 3:03:43]: Well mention here because if you got a p employees that come in in June. [3:03:44, 3:03:47]: The next June they get an increase in cost of living. [3:03:48, 3:03:49]: And bonus. [3:03:50, 3:03:54]: But if you wait to November, you're talking about a year and a half. [3:03:54, 3:04:02]: You get a cost of living increase when you missed the cost of living increase in June. So that's what I'm trying to understand. Are you talking about the new hires? [3:04:02, 3:04:05]: Getting cost of living increase in bonuses on their higher day. [3:04:06, 3:04:15]: Which June to June, or you still trying to massively do everybody in November, which now the person that was hired from June to June on that year anniversary. [3:04:16, 3:04:20]: Now they're gonna miss out six months of cost of living increase. How do you [3:04:20, 3:04:23]: How do you bring that into to fruition for them to get that? [3:04:24, 3:04:29]: six months missed. I'm just trying to you you see what I'm saying? You can't have two systems in one. [3:04:29, 3:04:31]: Right. [3:04:31, 3:04:33]: Yeah, you're right, sir. I'm sorry. [3:04:33, 3:04:38]: Melissa try to figure that out. [3:04:39, 3:04:41]: So next year in November. [3:04:41, 3:04:47]: He'll receive a bonus. Now, whether or not he received a bonus after one month of being on board here. [3:04:47, 3:04:48]: I don't know. [3:04:48, 3:04:51]: But I would certainly want to prevent that from happening. [3:04:51, 3:04:54]: for any new employee going forward. [3:04:54, 3:04:57]: Any job that I've had [3:04:57, 3:04:58]: Yes. [3:04:59, 3:05:06]: There's been a delay, just depending on your hire date, when it comes to the incentives that the company offers. [3:05:07, 3:05:10]: Employees, the cost of living. [3:05:10, 3:05:12]: Bonuses and merit increases. [3:05:13, 3:05:16]: are not um guaranteed. [3:05:17, 3:05:19]: They're not guaranteed, they are incentives. [3:05:20, 3:05:22]: Now of course the schedule, like I said. [3:05:23, 3:05:24]: We can keep the same schedule. [3:05:25, 3:05:29]: There may be a lapse in some employees just depending on their higher date. [3:05:29, 3:05:32]: That they don't get the bonus. [3:05:32, 3:05:38]: for twenty twenty two, but they'll certainly get it in twenty twenty three. There'll just be a gap. [3:05:38, 3:05:41]: Of course, with those new employees coming on board. [3:05:42, 3:05:44]: in July of next year. [3:05:44, 3:05:57]: I would hope that when they accept the position that they are happy with their salary and they are not just signing on in anticipation of a bonus and mirror increase that's coming within the next few months. [3:05:58, 3:06:01]: Every HR depart department that I'm aware of. [3:06:01, 3:06:03]: has established criteria. [3:06:04, 3:06:05]: And policies. [3:06:06, 3:06:08]: that kind of govern this kind of thing. [3:06:08, 3:06:17]: So no employee should assume that they're going to get a bonus, cost of living, and merit increase every year, because at any point, the governing body can freeze it. [3:06:18, 3:06:20]: Or just eliminate it altogether. [3:06:20, 3:06:23]: These are incentives. They're not guaranteed. [3:06:23, 3:06:25]: Stand stand by, Mr. Blount. Stand by for a second. Miss Wheeler. [3:06:26, 3:06:36]: In reference to cola, is that only happen one time of the year? Only in January, first of the year, or ha that can it happen multiple times or different times of the of the calendar year? It only happens one time during the year. [3:06:37, 3:06:44]: All right, so okay, so wow, that means someone that could very well be hired. Um [3:06:44, 3:06:54]: in in the fall, come around January, only be uh with us for a couple of months and would have to wait until the fall in the year before he got the cola increase then, I guess, on that note. [3:06:55, 3:06:56]: Is that correct? [3:06:57, 3:07:00]: That's correct. If you're adding this in as of twenty twenty two. [3:07:00, 3:07:02]: Which is the budget we're talking about. [3:07:03, 3:07:07]: Mm-hmm. This would take effect in effect of January, you know, when we [3:07:07, 3:07:11]: And with the budget, so it'll be added into the personal employee manual. [3:07:11, 3:07:19]: And that will be included in there. Right now, we don't have this the stipulation that you have to be here one year. [3:07:20, 3:07:21]: It has been [3:07:21, 3:07:22]: Um [3:07:22, 3:07:24]: An incentive that has been given. [3:07:24, 3:07:25]: Um yearly. [3:07:26, 3:07:27]: So now we're making it. [3:07:28, 3:07:30]: Um, we're putting some rules around it. [3:07:31, 3:07:34]: and um it will be added to the employee handbag. So [3:07:35, 3:07:37]: Handbook so employees will know up front. [3:07:37, 3:07:40]: What the criteria is for those. [3:07:40, 3:07:41]: Three items. [3:07:43, 3:07:45]: All right. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [3:07:45, 3:07:48]: Mayor, the only way to make this fair is two ways you can do it. [3:07:49, 3:07:55]: Either you take all employees and let them have that increase on their anniversary, yearly anniversary. [3:07:56, 3:08:02]: Or you take those newly employees that has been less than a year and prorate that amount. [3:08:02, 3:08:09]: of what they would have gotten, prorate that amount to four months, six months, or whatever months it is, and give them that amount. [3:08:09, 3:08:16]: To put everybody on the same schedule. Other than that, you would have to do it because if somebody like you said, the officers come on in June. [3:08:17, 3:08:21]: And next June they gotta wait six months in order to get a cost of living increase. [3:08:21, 3:08:32]: or their bonuses. Well, if you keep everybody on the same schedule, then then those bonuses for those that came in, instead of instead of waiting those many months, just prorate them, just prorate the money. [3:08:33, 3:08:40]: Well then how how can you make it fair that everybody does at the same time? There's no way to do it that way. [3:08:40, 3:08:40]: Yeah. [3:08:41, 3:08:43]: It's a thought. That's a thought. Okay. [3:08:44, 3:08:46]: Well we need to get with the treasurer and um [3:08:47, 3:08:48]: And and and [3:08:48, 3:08:51]: We'd have we know we'd have to figure this out depending on what the council votes on. [3:08:53, 3:08:58]: There's one forward with that motion, please. Stand by. Go ahead, go ahead, John. [3:08:59, 3:09:03]: I would have to see if our system can do that. I don't know if Kronos can um [3:09:04, 3:09:11]: We can we can put it in like pro rate, even with ENCODE pro rate, uh everybody's pay for the incentive. [3:09:12, 3:09:15]: Yeah, it normally happens once a year. You pick [3:09:15, 3:09:16]: A time in the year. [3:09:17, 3:09:18]: Their colas will be [3:09:19, 3:09:21]: um given to all employees. [3:09:22, 3:09:25]: So normally it either be January first or July first. [3:09:26, 3:09:26]: Um [3:09:26, 3:09:28]: In which how you can budget it. [3:09:28, 3:09:31]: And that's how the okolas are given. Bonuses are [3:09:32, 3:09:35]: Not added to the base salary. So it's a one time. [3:09:36, 3:09:37]: Um incentive. [3:09:38, 3:09:39]: That's correct. [3:09:40, 3:09:42]: That is given. [3:09:42, 3:09:50]: Okay. I'd like to move forward with my motion, please. Stand by. I'm I'm here. Can I ask you a question there? I'm stand I stand by a second. [3:09:51, 3:09:55]: Uh my attorney the attorneys, you gentlemen have been listening to this conversation. [3:09:56, 3:10:00]: What type of legal advice do you have, if anything at all? [3:10:02, 3:10:03]: Turdies? [3:10:05, 3:10:05]: Gentlemen. [3:10:08, 3:10:14]: Well, Mayor, until they wake up, I have a question for Ms. Wheeler real quick and this be my last one. Go ahead, sir. Ms. Wheeler. [3:10:15, 3:10:20]: Yes, sir. You put that in the system and it shows what they get in 12 months. [3:10:21, 3:10:36]: That's systematically set in place. We can't take that from our finance and say, we can budget that. We can even budget all the amounts just for budget purposes, but we couldn't prorate that ourselves in finance and say, [3:10:36, 3:10:47]: Uh give me an instance. We say a hundred dollars is your is is your bonus and you're there six months. We can't say fifty dollars and then because anything not used in the budget gonna go back into the budget anyway. [3:10:48, 3:10:52]: We can't pro prorate it even after it's been calculated in in finance. [3:10:54, 3:10:57]: I mean, I'm sure that we can. It just um [3:10:57, 3:10:58]: Mm. [3:10:59, 3:11:01]: It would not be done as it is now as a mass. [3:11:02, 3:11:06]: Increase so we would have to remove those employees out. [3:11:06, 3:11:11]: And then uh I would you know get with John and payroll and figure out. [3:11:11, 3:11:13]: what that amount would be. [3:11:16, 3:11:17]: But you know that [3:11:18, 3:11:20]: We we we we would have to work it out. [3:11:20, 3:11:21]: All right. [3:11:22, 3:11:25]: Mayor Ford, I'd like to move forward with my motion. [3:11:25, 3:11:29]: Because all these extra discussions that are have happening here. [3:11:30, 3:11:33]: is not the intent of what this motion is about. [3:11:34, 3:11:41]: Currently, our policy doesn't speak to new employees receiving bonuses. So an employee that's hired tomorrow. [3:11:42, 3:11:46]: Or an employee that's hired in October could have received a bonus in November. [3:11:48, 3:11:52]: So all of these employ these police officers were hiring in June. [3:11:52, 3:11:55]: Are eligible to receive bonuses in November. [3:11:55, 3:11:56]: That's not what. [3:11:57, 3:11:57]: we want to do. [3:11:59, 3:12:00]: It is okay. [3:12:01, 3:12:02]: For us too. [3:12:02, 3:12:04]: Enact this new policy. [3:12:05, 3:12:09]: Which requires employees, new employees. [3:12:09, 3:12:11]: to be higher for one year. [3:12:12, 3:12:14]: before they are eligible. [3:12:14, 3:12:19]: For a merit increase, which normally comes on their anniversary day. [3:12:20, 3:12:27]: The bonuses, which they Ms. Wheeler and Mr. Wiggins just confirmed, the bonuses are usually given in November. [3:12:28, 3:12:31]: And the cost of living increases. [3:12:31, 3:12:32]: That are usually given [3:12:32, 3:12:33]: in January. [3:12:35, 3:12:37]: All I want is to make sure. [3:12:38, 3:12:41]: That new hires are employed for one year. [3:12:42, 3:12:45]: Before they are eligible for these incentives. [3:12:45, 3:12:58]: That's all. Can we move on? Appreciate it. I'd like to also get a legal opinion before we go forward. And Mr. Jeremy, Jeremy, you've been listening to our conversation, I'm assuming. And so you got an idea legally on this aspect. [3:12:59, 3:13:02]: Are any thoughts on the timing of how long someone needs to work? [3:13:03, 3:13:10]: Well, the the the whole the motion itself just wanna make sure that uh it's legally sound as best as possible. Wanna make sure you get uh legal opinion. [3:13:11, 3:13:17]: Yeah, I mean sort of a couple of things, right? In in terms of the idea of how long someone needs to work there. [3:13:18, 3:13:25]: I mean frankly that's a a a policy decision of the council or of HR to figure out there's another question. I mean [3:13:26, 3:13:29]: The idea of bonuses paid by the city is is [3:13:29, 3:13:36]: A whole separate issue because I know there been City of Atlanta had some some trouble with that a couple of years ago. And I know every year. [3:13:36, 3:13:44]: GMA looks at the issue, but whether a payment of a bonus violates the gifts and gratuities clause of the the Georgia Constitution. [3:13:45, 3:13:52]: Uh I mean I guess if you couch it in terms of a cost of living adjustment, that's different than a bonus. So that's that's a different issue. [3:13:53, 3:14:01]: But right. I mean, if the council says you have to be working here on July one and then you're eligible for a bonus, the council can do that. That's up to the council or [3:14:02, 3:14:04]: working with HR to whatever policy they want to set. [3:14:05, 3:14:15]: Mayor Ford, I'd like to move forward with my motion. I'm not done yet. You're gonna have to wait now. Mayor. Yeah, stand by, please. Stand by. All right, Jeremy, anything else you need to answer? [3:14:16, 3:14:17]: Is that it? [3:14:18, 3:14:20]: Okay. Quentin, do you have anything to answer at all? [3:14:21, 3:14:27]: I'm just making sure we answer the question. What specifically are the contingencies on the motion that the clerk has? [3:14:28, 3:14:33]: Okay. You want you want you you're asking for the clerk to read the motion, is that what you're getting asked to get clarity? [3:14:33, 3:14:47]: Yes. Because what we're finding out is happening is that and that's why I referred to the clerk in the earlier matter, because what's happening is when all this stuff is passed, we then have to come back with resolutions which are different from the resolutions that [3:14:47, 3:14:56]: We've had at the beginning of the meeting that we're told to pre-file into the exhibit packets. And so I just want to make sure that we're all on the same page about. [3:14:56, 3:15:01]: What this is. Okay. Uh Vanessa, please, mm clerk, could you read the motion? Make sure we got it straight, please. [3:15:01, 3:15:05]: Mayor, the motion made by Councilwoman Barber. [3:15:05, 3:15:08]: Is that all new employees? [3:15:08, 3:15:11]: must be employed one full year [3:15:12, 3:15:13]: In order to receive [3:15:14, 3:15:15]: The cost of living. [3:15:16, 3:15:17]: Bonus and merit. [3:15:18, 3:15:21]: Seconded by councilman, I'm sorry, Mayor Pro Tem Alexander. [3:15:22, 3:15:22]: Okay. [3:15:23, 3:15:24]: All right, that's the motion. [3:15:25, 3:15:30]: Uh you uh clarity, you got that, miss uh Ms. Watson? That's you got that now, sir? No problem? Yeah, mayor. [3:15:31, 3:15:32]: Yes, ma'am. [3:15:32, 3:15:40]: I guess my question is when will they get their bonus? Would it cause uh some if you do it that way? [3:15:41, 3:15:41]: Then [3:15:42, 3:15:45]: If we're still gonna give the bonus in November. [3:15:46, 3:15:50]: then there'll be times where people will have to go a year, year and a half. [3:15:50, 3:15:51]: Or more. [3:15:52, 3:16:12]: Sometimes right they might have just missed that that year cutoff point almost two years before they receive a bonus. So are they gonna get a bonus on their anniversary date? Or is it something that we can prorate? But we can't, I mean, I I don't think it it doesn't sound fair unless we're gonna actually do the bonuses. [3:16:12, 3:16:15]: upon the date of anniversaries. So which one is it? [3:16:16, 3:16:20]: We're not trying to do all bonuses in November then, if that's the case. [3:16:22, 3:16:24]: Correct? How are we gonna do this? [3:16:26, 3:16:33]: It's a little confusing. Does it speak specifically to any incentive? [3:16:34, 3:16:40]: Ma Mayor I'm not talking about I'm not talking about any specific [3:16:40, 3:16:44]: Schedule of when any of these incentives are issued. [3:16:46, 3:16:54]: That's not included. Now our pol but I'm saying we have to talk about that because right now our policy is that we give a bonus in November. [3:16:55, 3:17:03]: Let's go. We get the vote in November. So Berry. Mr. Berry just we're gonna have to change our talking. [3:17:03, 3:17:10]: Mr. Vera just called bonuses. We shouldn't be issuing them. You what I'm saying to you is if the bonus [3:17:11, 3:17:13]: If we've always given a bonus in November. [3:17:15, 3:17:35]: And the year anniversary, let's say somebody came in um October. They have to wait till the following October, or they came right after January. And that means they won't have another full year until the following January, but we give out bonuses in November. Are we gonna start giving out bonuses on [3:17:35, 3:17:46]: on anniversary dates and no longer give everyone their bonus in November? Or are we going to do it where they have to wait and that means they'll be out, what, 18? [3:17:47, 3:18:02]: uh what 22 months so i'm trying to figure out how would we do this to make it fair across the board and that includes although your motion is stating for one year we still have some unfinished business about it [3:18:03, 3:18:10]: That means that we need to determine how we're going to give out bonuses for our employees to make sure that it's fair. [3:18:12, 3:18:15]: All right. Mr. Quentin, go ahead, sir. You were going to say something. [3:18:15, 3:18:17]: I'm I think from a legal perspective when and [3:18:18, 3:18:21]: Jeremy, you can tell me what your thoughts on this. I think that if we had [3:18:21, 3:18:31]: If if it's true what Councilwoman Barber says, then wouldn't it also be true that after a uh after a person worked here for a year that they would be eligible for bonuses and that would just be [3:18:32, 3:18:39]: That'll just depend on the capacity of HR and the department head to make sure their year date, if they want to give them a bonus, they gave them a bonus. [3:18:39, 3:18:43]: So the person was hired in October could possibly get a bonus in [3:18:44, 3:18:46]: You know, October or November, December. [3:18:47, 3:18:55]: Or the person was hired in January could get a bonus that next January or February. Or or if you gave the latitude to the department head. [3:18:55, 3:19:00]: to be able to give if you gave latitude of discretion to department head to be able to wave it if [3:19:01, 3:19:03]: they saw fit or within their discretion. [3:19:04, 3:19:07]: But that could be entertain that could be entertained in this motion or a separate motion. [3:19:08, 3:19:10]: If the if you want to guarantee [3:19:10, 3:19:16]: But I guess the first question is do you want to guarantee any level of incentive? Because if you're guaranteeing some level of incentive to them. [3:19:17, 3:19:17]: The [3:19:19, 3:19:25]: it gets kinda into some level of a contract where they will have an expectation that they're supposed to get something. [3:19:25, 3:19:27]: But that's what you all decide of the policy maker. [3:19:28, 3:19:31]: None of these incentives are guaranteed. None of them. [3:19:32, 3:19:33]: The governing body can freeze. [3:19:34, 3:19:40]: all pay increases, incentives, any bonuses, costs of at any given time. [3:19:41, 3:19:43]: But that is not a part of my motion. [3:19:44, 3:19:47]: My motion speaks specifically to [3:19:48, 3:19:49]: Enacting a policy. [3:19:49, 3:19:52]: To ensure every employee, every new hire. [3:19:53, 3:19:55]: Has worked here for a year. [3:19:55, 3:19:57]: Before they are even eligible. [3:19:58, 3:20:00]: To receive any of these incentives. [3:20:01, 3:20:06]: I don't know what the schedules of these incentives are and that's not my issue or that's not a part of this motion. [3:20:07, 3:20:08]: Mayor Ford, please call for the vote. [3:20:09, 3:20:10]: Mayor. [3:20:10, 3:20:15]: Yeah. We'll make this the last comment, Mr. We'll make this the last comment, Mr. Blount. Go ahead. [3:20:16, 3:20:20]: Man, I think it's coming at a inopportune time when the city [3:20:20, 3:20:25]: does have that incentive there and it does bring employees and we are in a time of [3:20:25, 3:20:26]: Of a pandemic. [3:20:27, 3:20:30]: And like Councilwoman Barber said, we are about to hire [3:20:31, 3:20:33]: Several police officers in June. [3:20:34, 3:20:50]: So that to now set a policy, instead of saying we can prorate it and still give them these incentives, that goes a long way not only with the officers, but it's gonna go a long way with the employees and it's gonna go a long way being an incentive for somebody to come work for the city of Spot Bridge. [3:20:51, 3:20:51]: So [3:20:52, 3:20:57]: What there's no part there's no procedure in place for the motion. [3:20:57, 3:21:03]: How's a motion passing when there's no clear procedure in place to implement it? I have no idea how we do that. [3:21:05, 3:21:15]: All right, well we'll let's let's go ahead now. So uh we've had all this discussion. We had all the discussion and we've the motion been made. So all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [3:21:17, 3:21:21]: Okay, I got three, four, four. Okay, all pose. [3:21:21, 3:21:25]: I oppose. Okay, so it passes three, two. All right. [3:21:25, 3:21:27]: Uh what else do we have here? [3:21:28, 3:21:34]: Mayor Ford, I did have a couple of other items I want us to consider as we're discussing the budget. Um the budget [3:21:35, 3:21:44]: The budget for the amphitheater. Um, at the last meeting, I asked Mr. Wiggins if he would itemize um the expenses for the amphitheater. [3:21:44, 3:21:47]: Were you able to itemize those expenses, Mr. Wiggins? [3:21:48, 3:21:50]: the cost for lighting, that kind of thing. [3:21:51, 3:21:53]: Yeah, I d I just spread the cost out. [3:21:53, 3:21:58]: Okay. The cost what was it$250,000 for the amphitheater? [3:21:58, 3:22:05]: idea yes. I think that's under budget. I believe we will there will be a lot more expenses. Um [3:22:05, 3:22:07]: When it comes to this amphitheater. [3:22:07, 3:22:08]: Um [3:22:08, 3:22:09]: We know. [3:22:10, 3:22:12]: from this concert, although [3:22:12, 3:22:20]: The council has not been provided financial reports with the profits and loss from these two concerts. [3:22:20, 3:22:23]: Um, I don't know what it is. It hasn't been provided to me. [3:22:24, 3:22:26]: But you all should have received it by now. [3:22:27, 3:22:28]: However [3:22:28, 3:22:35]: We know that there are still items that are needed to be purchased, tables and chairs, for instance. [3:22:35, 3:22:40]: Did you include the cost of that in the budget as well? [3:22:43, 3:22:55]: You you're I would say they're probably not added in there at this point. Okay, Mr. Wiggins. No. I'm sorry. No, it's it wasn't it wasn't added. It wasn't included. [3:22:55, 3:22:56]: No, it's not included. [3:22:57, 3:23:03]: Okay, do you think we need to include um the purchase of tables and chairs for the amphitheater in the budget? [3:23:05, 3:23:05]: And [3:23:06, 3:23:09]: Anything else? Do you think we need to include that? [3:23:10, 3:23:20]: It probably need to be included. I don't think I don't know if we have a good solid number to add at this point. Mr. Wiggins, can we increase the budget for the amphitheater? Um, I'd say at least [3:23:20, 3:23:21]: Um [3:23:21, 3:23:23]: Another hundred and fifty thousand. [3:23:24, 3:23:26]: Four hundred thousand for the amphitheater. [3:23:27, 3:23:29]: We know that there are gonna be some additional costs that's coming. [3:23:30, 3:23:31]: Regarding that. [3:23:31, 3:23:34]: I've already heard some things about it. [3:23:36, 3:23:45]: Um 400, I'd like to make a motion to increase the budget for the amphitheater to include other expenses. [3:23:45, 3:23:50]: that are needed for the amphitheater, increase the budget to$450,000. [3:23:50, 3:23:51]: Please, that's my motion. [3:23:52, 3:23:53]: Mayor. [3:23:54, 3:24:00]: Mr. Mr. Thomas, second dad. Uh stand by a second. Mr. Thomas, you had your hand up earlier as well. [3:24:01, 3:24:03]: Well, I was I was I was gonna sort of [3:24:04, 3:24:08]: speak to Mrs. Barber about something, but I think four hundred uh [3:24:08, 3:24:18]: I think 400, 450 is a good amount to increase uh the budget for the amphitheater. And I think, Mrs. Barr, we can just let it go at that. [3:24:19, 3:24:21]: Uh uh her motion's dead four hundred thousand is what I understand. [3:24:22, 3:24:24]: Four Fiddly. Four Fiddling is fine. [3:24:24, 3:24:28]: I I've seconded that and and hold on, you second which one now? [3:24:28, 3:24:29]: Uh [3:24:30, 3:24:33]: Fourth. Motion for four three. [3:24:33, 3:24:36]: Yeah. Your motion is for how much? [3:24:36, 3:24:38]: Four hundred and fifty thousand dollars. [3:24:39, 3:24:45]: Okay. Well that's that's the one I do second, but I'll do second that okay. Now further this further discussion. [3:24:46, 3:25:03]: Uh Miss Ms. Gantt sorry. Ms. Gantt, go ahead, please. Mayor, uh I do have some citizens from the behind the amphitheater that want would like for us to address the noise mitigation as part of our amphitheater cost. We had discussed it before. [3:25:03, 3:25:10]: Um and I hope that we will bring that and make that a part of our budget at some point in time. Now [3:25:11, 3:25:17]: I don't know where the four hundred and fifty thousand dollars comes from. I don't know if we're just throwing out numbers. That's my biggest concern. [3:25:18, 3:25:22]: Usually at our retreats, our staff comes in. [3:25:22, 3:25:25]: And they tell us what they need. [3:25:25, 3:25:31]: And then they give us, we go by the lines and we discuss what's needed and why. [3:25:33, 3:25:35]: I don't hear that with this. [3:25:35, 3:25:43]: This uh even tonight, uh don't we need chairs? I mean we we're we are we're just guesstimating. [3:25:45, 3:25:51]: A number. We're just throwing numbers out here. We right now we're at forty three million dollars in a budget. [3:25:51, 3:25:54]: From thirteen we're I mean, we're at forty three million dollars. [3:25:55, 3:26:01]: 43 million. And this is, you know, we can talk about ARPRAP funds, but ARPAPons is a one-time deal. [3:26:02, 3:26:08]: That's it. It's for the year. It's for it's a one time deal. They give us this money. They're not gonna replenish it. [3:26:09, 3:26:09]: So [3:26:12, 3:26:23]: I've never seen us do this process like this. Again, I'm not against us putting money, but what what are we putting it in for? What are the dollar amounts? What's the line items? [3:26:23, 3:26:39]: We're just throwing numbers out there. I need a staff member to justify it. Um, I need somebody to justify why we're agreeing to these different numbers and what our budget is gonna actually look like after that. Now it sounds like we're up to almost 44 million. [3:26:40, 3:27:00]: All right, what it is that first of all, the budget ret when we had the budget retreat, obviously the information about the amphitheater wasn't even remotely available at that time anyway, because it because obviously additional costs and things of this nature came up through some conversations as we were executing our first couple of concerts in this aspect. So that's one thing. 450,000 is probably a good guesstimate, but the [3:27:00, 3:27:20]: nail it down, you would we have you have to have chairs, we have to place have to have some type of storage capability for those particular chairs and tables so we wouldn't have to rent them on a continual basis. And then there's some additional things that uh the uh uh that the Radio Alliance had asked for in reference to a backdrop to help with the acoustic sound aspect as well. [3:27:20, 3:27:34]: uh so i don't know the total numbers of all that but 450 is probably a good start in this aspect mr Blount you had your hand up first so mayor one second before he mr Blount though so we're just gonna agree to a number not knowing what [3:27:35, 3:27:49]: we really need an actual cost. What is the cost of noise mitigation for the subdivision behind for the neighborhood behind us? Or the chairs? I have to admit I don't know that that has not happened. Um I'm saying but we're just giving a number. That's that's not responsible. [3:27:50, 3:28:00]: I have same questions. Now my my whole standby. Miss Barber stand by please. Miss Gan, if you're done, Mr. Blount, I'll come to you, Barber, in a little bit. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [3:28:01, 3:28:07]: Mayor, this is why the city, nobody on this Zoom right now. [3:28:08, 3:28:11]: knows the function of this amphitheater in and out. [3:28:12, 3:28:16]: And I would r uh implore this council to that we would go seek. [3:28:17, 3:28:37]: A consultant that will work on behalf of the city when it comes to this amphitheater and everything pertaining to the amphitheater. We've yet to do that. We relied on the we relied on the uh uh uh uh vendor and everybody else. And now the council throwing out figures that we can't validate. Why don't we hire a consultant? [3:28:37, 3:28:39]: consultant that knows this business. [3:28:40, 3:28:56]: To tell us what we can do and what we shouldn't do and how we go about doing it that benefits the city instead of this council trying to run the amphitheater. Wouldn't that be well money money well spent rather than us throwing figures out like this? Well, 400, no, 450. Well [3:28:56, 3:28:59]: Why don't we hire a consultant that works for the city? [3:28:59, 3:29:19]: We actually have someone that can probably do this for us that actually in house and his name is Econuel Ingram in this aspect. And one of the reasons why you probably don't have all the data uh that you think you need to have, and now I'll take responsibility. That's probably because of me. Right. I'll take responsibility of that at this point, um, in that aspect. So it's probably on my shoulders that you you don't have some. [3:29:19, 3:29:23]: No, but but but but all due respect to you. [3:29:24, 3:29:44]: You don't know contractual, uh, how how contracts are formed for this amphitheater, how they should have been formed, what needs to be done. You don't know that. A consultant would would know that. These are the kind of things I'm saying that that would keep us from spending monies we don't have to spend. If the money is validated and it has validity to spending, so be [3:29:44, 3:29:53]: It but it's not on you, it's from some it's it should come from somebody that knows about the amphitheater to validate give validity. [3:29:54, 3:29:56]: to the money that we're spending. [3:29:56, 3:29:57]: It's just that. [3:29:57, 3:30:00]: All right. Thank you, sir. Go ahead. Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. [3:30:01, 3:30:08]: Yeah, let honestly you took the blame and you fell on the sword. And honestly, I'm gonna say it's deserving at this point. [3:30:08, 3:30:13]: Because I mean I think I you did the right thing. Because in the end [3:30:13, 3:30:16]: I think uh Mr. Murray has spoken with you. [3:30:16, 3:30:22]: He has spoken uh you know of at the concerts about different things that were going on and [3:30:22, 3:30:24]: He made the point that [3:30:24, 3:30:29]: They were renting this equipment that was causing thousands of dollars. That's why we're doing it. [3:30:30, 3:30:38]: Is that instead of spending the same amount renting the equipment in 2022, we're going to buy it? Isn't that what he said? [3:30:39, 3:30:39]: That's correct. [3:30:40, 3:30:42]: Now again we hired them. [3:30:42, 3:30:49]: To do exactly what Mr. Blount said. Their job, we have a contract with them to run the amphitheater. [3:30:49, 3:31:05]: uh it and split the profit with us uh as uh as the vendor so we do have somebody in place in order to uh to run the amphitheater and then if they don't do a good job they got a 12 month contract and we can let them go [3:31:05, 3:31:10]: So in the end, that's how we ended up in this position is that [3:31:11, 3:31:29]: We do have an idea of what the numbers were. I believe a number was given to you, Mayor, at what it was going to take in order to purchase this equipment. So we didn't do the same thing that we did this year and waste another$200,000 uh uh or on on this equipment. Is that correct? [3:31:30, 3:31:50]: Well, I did get some numbers on this aspect, but uh in reference to all that, I would tell you I wanted to make sure that before I've decided I signed any contracts or made any commitments and before I came to you all with that, I want to make sure that everything was legally in place. And one of those things actually dealt with the actual contract itself and revising of that particular contract to ensure [3:31:50, 3:32:10]: that not only the concerts that they say that we have, but the additional concerts that we want to have in reference to uh the the the concerts that we have a lot of summer type concerts that we're able to utilize and make sure that's outlined properly in the contract itself. And then also in a sense of how we can go about which is what well Mr. Thomas [3:32:10, 3:32:30]: Thomas has been asking about how we won and and actually actually it is uh it we won't review it tonight. It won't probably won't be the twenty till the twenty-first, but in reference to the rental process of the of the green room, that was all part of some things to try to get together and make sure I had good legal advice and made sound sense before we came to the council uh for the review. [3:32:30, 3:32:50]: aspect and how to go about doing all that. So that's why I said what I said earlier. I'm not I'm not joking the responsibility. It's been coming across my desk. I understand that. I got the floor right now, right? There's certain there are things that have come across my desk. [3:32:49, 3:33:05]: that I wanted to make sure that I got good proper legal advice on in this aspect. And there's probably some things I should have communicated with Mr. Wiggins in reference to further increase that the particular ampathy budget and come to you all with that. Now I accept that responsibility. [3:33:05, 3:33:11]: Alexander, if you don't mind. [3:33:12, 3:33:18]: Let me finish with what I have to say. I got the floor, so let me hold on. Let me can I finish? [3:33:19, 3:33:28]: Okay, go ahead now. All right. Go ahead, sir. Now in essence, I mayor, I'm not blaming you because you're functioning in a position of the city manager right now. [3:33:29, 3:33:37]: That's not your expertise. You're doing that and you're doing a great, you're doing as well a job as anybody could have did as a layman trying to fill in for the position. [3:33:37, 3:33:39]: Right? I mean it's hard on any of us. [3:33:40, 3:33:41]: But let us not [3:33:41, 3:33:44]: act like we're gonna be operating in this position. [3:33:45, 3:34:04]: In the budget next year. We'll have a seasoned city manager in place to navigate this. This is why the budget process has never been like this before, right? We don't have a seasoned city manager to uh guide us through this process. We're doing what's necessary based on the best information that we have. [3:34:05, 3:34:25]: And then this vendor with the amphitheater has provided us with these extraneous costs and we're trying to work those into the budget like we should, because it would be irresponsible to go out and rent two hundred thousand dollars worth of equipment again this year when we know better. Last year we didn't know better. This year [3:34:25, 3:34:32]: We know better and we'll get full use out of that in order to do what we're doing. Of course, Georgia Alliance has. [3:34:33, 3:34:44]: uh their their events that we run. But the attorneys have been very clear with us that we have and in that contract, it allows us to have city events there. So we're okay with that. [3:34:45, 3:34:50]: All right. Uh actually I'm going to Miss Barber. I think her hand hand up before yours, Mr. Thomas. [3:34:52, 3:34:55]: Yes. Um I think there is still a motion on the floor. [3:34:56, 3:34:58]: Uh yeah, but we're in discussion right now. [3:34:58, 3:35:04]: Okay, but we're off topic. Um, can I ask the city clerk to read back that motion? [3:35:07, 3:35:11]: The motion made by Councilman Barber is a proposed budget. [3:35:12, 3:35:17]: for the amphitheater in the amount of four hundred and fifty thousand dollars for fiscal year twenty two. [3:35:17, 3:35:23]: Second it by Councilman Thomas. Yeah, I second that and I call for the vote as well. [3:35:23, 3:35:32]: Well Mr. Thomas Mr. Thomas had his hand up, sir. Can I show the motion was seconded by Councilman Thomas? Is that not right? [3:35:32, 3:35:39]: That is correct. I said okay, I'm sorry. I thought I was like Do I still have the floor, Mayor Ford? [3:35:39, 3:35:39]: Well [3:35:40, 3:35:43]: Go ahead, uh Ms. Brown. I appreciate it. Thank you. [3:35:43, 3:35:46]: You're welcome. So what I was gonna ask is [3:35:46, 3:35:52]: I've never seen an invoice or the cost of these tables and chairs at all. [3:35:53, 3:35:57]: Absolutely. I just gave an estimate of what the budget should be. [3:35:57, 3:36:02]: I'm sure Mr. Wiggins has access to whatever invoices that were paid. [3:36:02, 3:36:05]: Um, in regards to those tables and chairs that we rented. [3:36:06, 3:36:10]: Somebody else staff has that. You mayor forward, someone has it. [3:36:11, 3:36:12]: So if I need to increase [3:36:13, 3:36:15]: This proposed amount of this budget. [3:36:15, 3:36:16]: In my emotion. [3:36:16, 3:36:18]: Please let me know now. [3:36:18, 3:36:19]: The other [3:36:20, 3:36:22]: thing I wanted to say is [3:36:22, 3:36:27]: the contract in which you signed for this management company, Mayor Ford. [3:36:28, 3:36:29]: It's not the contract. [3:36:29, 3:36:32]: that was presented to this council and approved. [3:36:32, 3:36:33]: So I'm asking. [3:36:34, 3:36:35]: that you bring that contract. [3:36:36, 3:36:37]: Back to the council. [3:36:38, 3:36:39]: for us to review it. [3:36:39, 3:36:41]: and have some discussions about it. [3:36:42, 3:36:48]: The day after we approved that contract, I had serious concerns then. [3:36:48, 3:36:51]: So now you're telling me we still got concerns. [3:36:52, 3:36:55]: Bring the contract back to the council so that we can review it. [3:36:56, 3:36:59]: and ultimately approve it or make some decisions. [3:37:00, 3:37:02]: I don't want us to move forward. [3:37:03, 3:37:07]: With so much uncertainty about a whole lot of stuff. [3:37:08, 3:37:11]: I was concerned about even approving this budget today. [3:37:11, 3:37:15]: For the very reason there are so many unanswered questions here. [3:37:15, 3:37:17]: I'm the newest member of the council. [3:37:18, 3:37:23]: This is the second time that I've gone through this whole budget review process. [3:37:24, 3:37:27]: Yes, we're going through it without a city a city manager. [3:37:27, 3:37:31]: But I'm certainly relying on my season council members. [3:37:31, 3:37:32]: to lead the way. [3:37:32, 3:37:34]: And they're not. We're just arguing. [3:37:34, 3:37:41]: about issues that we know we need to take care of. We know that we need to approve a budget. [3:37:41, 3:37:56]: Is there any alternative that we have besides us approving this budget tonight with so much uncertainty? Are we able to put this off to the next meeting and just hash out some of the uncertain or unanswered questions? [3:37:57, 3:37:58]: What can we do? [3:37:59, 3:38:19]: Well let me answer one of the first questions. Let me answer one of the questions. Uh in reference to the contract itself, and I I've got to talk to Jeremy. We had some discussion about trying to work through the process to revise it based on some other concerns that you and other council members have. Primarily what it deals with is making sure that [3:38:19, 3:38:39]: That the right language is in there so what we, since it's our amphitheater, can be able to utilize that when the when uh for our certain events, whether it's for other additional concerts or like a summer concert series or other events, whether it's for like the green room rental for for citizens, or if we wanted if the Henry County schools wanted to use it for some reason or some other activity and work on those things. [3:38:39, 3:38:44]: things out not only in the contract, but also work that things out in reference to the rental agreement itself. [3:38:44, 3:39:04]: for the review that the that the that the attorneys need to have and we're still working through that process. Now there is in reference to the the contract still working the process and the actual initial contract for the rental of the green room and some guidelines. We have that the the attorneys have to finish their review on that. I have a copy of that where we still got to talk about a few [3:39:04, 3:39:08]: few things and it has to be presented to the council. Originally I thought we would be able to do it tonight. [3:39:09, 3:39:29]: And obviously the meet we're meeting is very long anyway. So I'm looking forward to that. Hold on a second. When you finish, please let me finish, please. So that let me hold on. I'm still talking. Okay. So what it amounts to is that we're working through that process. Okay. So the the uh the revived any revised contract has not been signed. [3:39:29, 3:39:41]: uh uh for uh by me because it hasn't been presented back to you and we're still working through that and that that's an intent uh to to do that as we can continue to work through this whole process so in that aspect now [3:39:41, 3:39:52]: I don't I seem like hold on a second, please, because whole whole lot of people want to talk here. Now, now I I was trying to answer your question, Miss Barber. If you got something else and then eventually once you're done, I gotta move on to some other people. So what else do you have to say at this point? [3:39:53, 3:39:55]: All of those conditions that the council [3:39:56, 3:39:56]: Um [3:39:57, 3:39:58]: Red. [3:39:59, 3:40:03]: In August, when the original contract was presented to us. [3:40:03, 3:40:05]: Every one of those conditions. [3:40:06, 3:40:20]: should have been included in this contract. If it is not, then yes, please ask the city clerk to pull up those minutes so you can get all those conditions and include them in this revised contract. [3:40:20, 3:40:28]: Yes, they were in the someone brought up a condition. Someone brought up a condition to change the language in the contract, not giving. [3:40:28, 3:40:31]: Um anyone exclusive rights to the amphitheater. [3:40:32, 3:40:40]: The term ex an issue. It was an issue then, and it's an issue for us now, and it will be in the future. So we need to get it right. [3:40:41, 3:40:55]: Um, I do want to move forward with um the approval of the motion that we have on the table. Unless not not just yet. We can't do that just yet. Jeremy, you said something earlier, sir. I just want to make sure that you're able to uh make a clear statement if you need to make a clear statement. [3:40:56, 3:41:04]: Thank you, Mayor. I was just responding to the comment and I watched the YouTube video numerous times. Every condition that was mentioned during the council meeting. [3:41:05, 3:41:09]: When this contract was approved, made it into the final contract. [3:41:12, 3:41:17]: Okay, Mr. Thomas said to me I have any of the conditions. [3:41:17, 3:41:23]: Mayor, uh please Cas Warren Barber, um I'm I'm with you on that. [3:41:24, 3:41:37]: Ms. Barber, all thing I ask, just just pull back for a minute. Um let's let's you know let's let's do some of this homework uh at another time, if you would. [3:41:37, 3:41:44]: I think what's important now is the 450,000. We know that there are some things that we need to do. [3:41:45, 3:41:47]: So if you just ought to just [3:41:48, 3:41:56]: Listen to my tone and understand where I'm coming from. And let's just go ahead and the 450 is is is is is a placement. [3:41:56, 3:42:03]: uh it may be more and we can actually do that. But I think um and I'm gonna say this with the mayor. [3:42:03, 3:42:06]: I've I've made some qu inquiries myself. [3:42:07, 3:42:09]: So I know Mayor Ford um [3:42:09, 3:42:12]: Some of the conversation that I've had. [3:42:12, 3:42:15]: I know uh Mayor Pro Tem made some inquiries as well. [3:42:16, 3:42:18]: So they're just some information. [3:42:18, 3:42:29]: that um i'm assuming mayor that you're gonna bring this to us at the appropriate time so i'm just saying councilwoman barber let let us go let us just go forward and [3:42:30, 3:42:32]: All of our concern will be met. [3:42:33, 3:42:36]: Uh this is just not the time to do it. [3:42:36, 3:42:38]: So let's let's go forward. [3:42:39, 3:42:44]: Mayor, I'd like to withdraw my motion and allow someone else to make the motion. Please. [3:42:44, 3:42:48]: All right. [3:42:48, 3:42:49]: Okay. [3:42:49, 3:42:50]: All right. [3:42:50, 3:42:51]: What's [3:42:51, 3:42:54]: I I I I motion to increase [3:42:55, 3:43:00]: the amphitheaters uh budget to four hundred and fifty thousand. [3:43:01, 3:43:06]: Yeah, I I was I will second that and I need to understand, like I said, uh [3:43:06, 3:43:10]: You know, Councilwoman Barber, a lot of this frustration comes from [3:43:10, 3:43:19]: You know, things being thrown into the mix. The goal here was to get the budget. We're setting amount for the budget so that we can move forward. [3:43:19, 3:43:31]: We can always change it. The goal here tonight is to work through these things and Councilman Thomas is right. Let's just call that's why I kept calling for the vote. This discussions were unnecessary. So let's go ahead and move forward. So I second. [3:43:32, 3:43:38]: Appreciate it. But we're gonna continu okay, Mr. Blocks. Go ahead, please. Merrick, a question. Um [3:43:39, 3:43:42]: And I'm in agreement. The contract that we all discussed. [3:43:43, 3:43:46]: Do do they have a contract right now? [3:43:46, 3:43:47]: Yes. [3:43:47, 3:44:07]: They're still in the contract. Then how are we still working on it? Because we're going to we're there's a lot, there's a pair, there's a couple sentences or so, and and that I've discussed further with Jeremy. I believe Mr. Mr. Washington knows about this as well. That allows us to make some adjustments, even though the contract does exist. And that's those adjustments will allow us to to have [3:44:07, 3:44:15]: the the use of our amphithe like we will want it for our own personal city specific events. [3:44:15, 3:44:35]: you know in this aspect and that that's what we were going at and and i and i i haven't come back forward to you on that until i have the attorneys work it out with with the cup with their company and their attorneys to make sure we got a good solid product and then come back so they're still under a contract but they're agree they're agreeing to the fact that we can work out and make some additional changes to [3:44:35, 3:44:36]: to allow us to do some things. [3:44:37, 3:44:39]: My question is then Mayor. [3:44:40, 3:44:45]: Because I think it was pretty clear from this council that we did not want to relinquish any [3:44:46, 3:44:50]: Any uh uh we we want to have some deviation from [3:44:51, 3:44:53]: That company to be able to do something. [3:44:53, 3:44:58]: And if those provisions was added to the contract, so right now you guys are in [3:44:58, 3:45:02]: contract negotiations with a piece of paper you already have. [3:45:02, 3:45:06]: I have an awe that that piece of paper that you guys are getting ready to discuss. [3:45:07, 3:45:17]: On top of what we've already discussed, it hadn't been given to council to see. So only thing you gotta do is show it to a vendor. Why haven't we seen that piece of paper? Because in the reason being, I'm saying, mayor. [3:45:18, 3:45:19]: Is when you when you take [3:45:20, 3:45:28]: When you take the elected body out of a process that they have started in and then make uh make for revisions or provisions. [3:45:28, 3:45:47]: Without our knowledge, then you're gonna find something that we haven't approved, yet still we don't understand the total operations now. But if all it is that you all have the paperwork, why haven't we seen at least seen the contract that we're negotiating? Because this is a property of our, we could have done it in executive session. [3:45:47, 3:46:01]: Well, w what it is that what it is, Councilman Blount, is that I wanted the attorneys to work out the details and then bring it back to you all before I sign it. That was the intent. And that's still the intent. And it's asked now that we're on I mean, we're getting kind of sidetracked, but let me ask you this then. [3:46:01, 3:46:21]: There have been contracts that come before me in reference to entertainment. Do you want me to bring all those back to you before I sign on them as well? Because I mayor, no, sir. Okay. Because you you and I know back in 2016 we had a discussion about a contract that you signed that none of the council members knew anything about. [3:46:22, 3:46:36]: And I don't want to go down that road. So I want to say that in the future, and I've always said it from that day on, from 2016 to now, that any provisions made in any contracts that we're involved in, we should stay in the loop of it because I agree with Councilwoman Barber. [3:46:37, 3:46:49]: We had a vision of what we wanted to happen with that amphitheater in the environment with the city of Stockbridge. And is all is all you have now is it on paper now to negotiate. We should have had that paper. [3:46:50, 3:46:51]: It's simple as that. [3:46:52, 3:46:52]: Okay. [3:46:53, 3:46:58]: Okay, so uh make sure I understand this now though, in reference to [3:46:58, 3:46:59]: Entertainment [3:47:00, 3:47:20]: Uh that is uh potentially being scheduled. Uh you want me to show that to the entire council before I sign off on the I know hold on, hold on. I just want to make sure I understand. No, no, I'm I'm I'm only thing I'm trying to make clear is okay, is that whatever provisions that you all put in that contract to negotiate. [3:47:19, 3:47:23]: negotiate. That should already be set right now. Okay. [3:47:24, 3:47:26]: Only thing you got to do is go negotiate it. [3:47:26, 3:47:41]: Okay. We should understand right now, have a clear understanding of the provisions that have been set in there and make sure it's in line with the vision with the vision of the council for the amphitheater, rather than the mayor and the and the attorneys going out doing it. That's all I'm saying. [3:47:42, 3:47:50]: All right. All right. Well, attorneys here, they'll keep me straight on this. Make sure what we'll do the proper thing in this aspect as well. Um all right. So the motions on the floor. [3:47:52, 3:47:57]: Mayor Folk, I have my hand raised. I do have a last and final comment, if I may. Um go ahead. [3:47:57, 3:47:58]: According to [3:47:59, 3:48:02]: the management company of the amphitheater. [3:48:02, 3:48:03]: Um [3:48:03, 3:48:05]: In the contract. [3:48:06, 3:48:09]: The one that the council approved, not the one that you signed. [3:48:09, 3:48:10]: The one we approved. [3:48:11, 3:48:12]: It was specific. [3:48:13, 3:48:13]: that [3:48:15, 3:48:19]: The city could have events at the amphitheater. [3:48:19, 3:48:25]: But they could not be concerts or any activities that would compete. [3:48:25, 3:48:27]: With concerts. [3:48:28, 3:48:29]: We contracted them. [3:48:30, 3:48:32]: To manage our amphitheater for [3:48:32, 3:48:33]: Concerts. [3:48:34, 3:48:37]: So yes, when you're speaking about events. [3:48:37, 3:48:40]: That's bridge fest, that's ball festival. [3:48:40, 3:48:43]: That's any other little city event. [3:48:43, 3:48:45]: when it comes to concerts. [3:48:46, 3:48:47]: Entertainment. [3:48:49, 3:48:50]: The contract. [3:48:50, 3:48:56]: spoke specifically about um prohibiting us from having any concerts. [3:48:57, 3:49:06]: That is why we had those conditions added or we requested to add those conditions. So I want you, I want everyone to be clear. [3:49:06, 3:49:22]: There's a difference between what the contract outlines as it pertains to events and what it speaks to as it pertains to concerts. I am concerned about the exclusive rights, because if we wanted to hold any kind of concerts, [3:49:23, 3:49:25]: For example, the sheriff's office [3:49:26, 3:49:27]: Earlier this year. [3:49:27, 3:49:30]: Agreed to host concerts at the end. [3:49:32, 3:49:32]: So [3:49:33, 3:49:34]: Next year. [3:49:34, 3:49:36]: Under this existing contract. [3:49:38, 3:49:41]: The management company would be responsible for managing them. [3:49:42, 3:49:45]: And that is not what the desire of the council. [3:49:46, 3:49:46]: Wanted. [3:49:47, 3:49:49]: We don't want to give exclusive rights. [3:49:50, 3:49:53]: That was a deal that was already on the table. [3:49:53, 3:49:56]: before we even approved a management contract. [3:49:57, 3:50:11]: So I want to make sure that we are clear on that and we can move forward with the most well I I would tell you that's part of the the go the original no additional no s uh negotiations in this aspect that the our attorneys are going to have with their attorneys in this aspect. That's what what you're talking about is what's what's uh [3:50:12, 3:50:22]: Is what we're doing. We're working on the thing. And that mayor, if I may, that is it that is very clear with all the parties. We're making sure that the language says all that. The intent is crystal clear on both sides. [3:50:23, 3:50:23]: Yeah. [3:50:25, 3:50:26]: All right. [3:50:26, 3:50:27]: Now we had a [3:50:28, 3:50:28]: We had a motion. [3:50:29, 3:50:40]: Mr. Thomas made a motion. Mayor Pro Tem uh the second that motion for to add$450,000 to the ample theater budget uh line. All right. All in favor of motion, please indicate. [3:50:41, 3:50:46]: One, two, three. Okay. Uh Mr. Blount, Ms. Gantt? [3:50:47, 3:50:56]: I abstain only because I don't know where the four hundred and fifty thousand dollars comes from. We don't have a specific itemized anything. Mr. Blount? [3:50:57, 3:50:59]: That's the same. I have no idea where this figure comes from. [3:50:59, 3:51:04]: Okay, it's three zero two. The motion passed. I don't know with the two hundred and fifty thousand dollars covered either. [3:51:04, 3:51:13]: Let's call it down. Everybody take it down, Tom. Take it down. I wanted to have it. [3:51:13, 3:51:14]: Okay. [3:51:15, 3:51:17]: Okay, what um [3:51:17, 3:51:30]: What else what what what Mr. uh Wigan sent out also, you all should have received that. I have here on here it says Kekinwood, City Project Manager for all capital projects. And my assumptions I thought they were already doing that. Is that not correct? [3:51:32, 3:51:35]: I think Mayor, if I could speak to that for a second. [3:51:35, 3:51:40]: I think the idea was to have to be able to move these projects along. [3:51:40, 3:51:41]: And to have them be [3:51:42, 3:51:43]: the project manager for [3:51:44, 3:51:48]: All the projects going forward to make sure that we have somebody [3:51:48, 3:51:53]: Uh in our wheelhouse because they've been doing a good job of of pushing back. [3:51:53, 3:51:54]: On these vendors. [3:51:55, 3:51:59]: And we clearly know that they have the experts, the engineers, the staff. [3:51:59, 3:52:04]: To be able to push back when somebody says I need A, I got unsuitable source. [3:52:04, 3:52:17]: They have the experts to tell us whether they're telling the truth or not. And I and I've seen that and we've all seen that. So the the the idea is to have them be our eyes on the Cultural Arts Center. [3:52:17, 3:52:28]: uh on the on trails, on all of the projects that we got going forward uh to move uh in that direction. Uh we may need to uh you know that that was the desire behind. [3:52:30, 3:52:45]: But but okay, maybe um once again I got that, but I've always thought that they had oversight of that anyway. We already have they they they have oversight of specific projects, but they don't have oversight over total all capital projects, but they got specific projects. [3:52:45, 3:53:05]: Or so we make total projects. Does that change their that change their number for their employment with us then? Is that the case? We would need to go back to them and renegotiate and to talk to them. This idea isn't just to get you or the new city manager to sit down and talk with them, to see what it will take to get them to actually be the capital projects manager for the city. [3:53:05, 3:53:22]: We can't put we're not trying to do that tonight without having, we just want to make sure that we get that uh sent as a consensus to move forward with having a new city manager and yourself sit down with them to see what it's gonna take to bring them on board. [3:53:22, 3:53:29]: because they've told us that they could scale up to whatever we wanted to do in terms of project. We have millions of dollars coming. [3:53:29, 3:53:32]: And they're the ones that are gonna look over to make sure that [3:53:32, 3:53:36]: those dollars are being spent appropriately and be able to report back to council. [3:53:36, 3:53:37]: All right. [3:53:37, 3:53:42]: All right. I'm I'm fine with that. Any other questions, concerns about that these comments in uh Keck and Wood? [3:53:43, 3:53:48]: Or if not, what's on here next? I got Fourth of July holiday event with concert fireworks and food trucks. [3:53:49, 3:54:09]: And so I imagine that should be a some type of increased budget a budget line for uh a fourth of like a fourth of July celebration aspect. Then I I'm remiss on the amount that may be tagged to that at this point. Is that a sign? Yes, sir. Mayor, as uh as you recall, we had what uh what [3:54:09, 3:54:29]: what what do we have set aside for the the uh hundred year anniversary uh but i think it was ten thousand dollars i think that was fifty thousand or something was it fifty thousand yes fifty thousand okay but in the in the end that was uh around our anniversary time which was uh uh I think august sixth but this gives us an opportunity [3:54:29, 3:54:32]: To have a day in the city. [3:54:32, 3:54:34]: Where it's a revenue generator. [3:54:34, 3:54:44]: Uh it's a all day event because right now nobody has the Fourth of July. They don't have anything. So anybody in this community that wants to celebrate the Fourth of July. [3:54:44, 3:54:46]: You gotta go down to Centennial Park. [3:54:47, 3:54:48]: Or you gotta go. [3:54:48, 3:54:49]: To something on the north side. [3:54:50, 3:54:53]: We could have a uh a premiere event where we could have [3:54:54, 3:54:56]: The amphitheater uh on [3:54:56, 3:54:57]: Uh [3:54:57, 3:54:58]: Front Street. [3:54:58, 3:55:00]: Where we have people in downtown. [3:55:00, 3:55:03]: Supporting downtown businesses. [3:55:03, 3:55:07]: And having that crush just come here every single year. [3:55:07, 3:55:18]: on the holiday with the food trucks, with the fireworks, we get to have that anniversary not one time, we get to have it every year uh going forward. [3:55:18, 3:55:35]: on the holiday itself, not on the holiday weekend, on July the 4th, where folks have a place to go to celebrate on July 4th for the holiday right here in our community with a concert, food trucks, activities right here on July the 4th. [3:55:37, 3:55:40]: All right, so right now there's nothing in obviously in the budget for that, correct? [3:55:41, 3:55:42]: So [3:55:43, 3:56:03]: That is something that would have to be added. And um ten thousand for the fourth of July. It's ten thousand? It's ten thousand there, but you will have to see that so that's why I said okay, that's what that's what I thought. So that was okay, that's for right now. That's ten thousand there now. But May Merced, you said fifty thousand. That must have been the fifty thousand after twenty twenty twenty [3:56:03, 3:56:10]: twenty for the centennial process is what right right I was thinking about the centennial project for us to be able to do it [3:56:14, 3:56:15]: You're you're unmuted. [3:56:15, 3:56:19]: For the centennial project, we have fifty thousand dollars in there. [3:56:19, 3:56:26]: So I'm thinking about doing something grand, but if uh you know that's what we will need to get um [3:56:27, 3:56:36]: I that's what I was talking about doing. If you're gonna do a concert, you're not gonna be able to pay the X with fifty thousand dollars with ten thousand dollars, you know what I mean? Right. [3:56:37, 3:56:41]: So at this point I certainly would want to move forward and uh [3:56:41, 3:56:45]: Put a placeholder in there if uh the the council's agreeable to that. [3:56:45, 3:56:49]: Uh, so that we could have a significant event on the fourth of July. [3:56:49, 3:56:54]: And m maybe I could ask someone, Mr. What was the amount for the centennial amount? [3:56:55, 3:57:01]: Mr. Wiggins, do you have that? We're gonna have a centennial concert last year, but we did not have it. What was that about? [3:57:04, 3:57:18]: Give me a second to get to it. Um because that event was going to be, you know, Mayor, we we put a whole lot into that because we wanted to be significant, but we could have that event every year and it wouldn't cost us because in the end. [3:57:18, 3:57:22]: We we you know the vendors that want to come down here and supply. [3:57:22, 3:57:25]: Uh the the the concert would be sold out. We could have more than one. [3:57:26, 3:57:30]: in a in a t in in in their days period and they would be back to back and they would sell out. [3:57:30, 3:57:32]: Just with so many people downtown. [3:57:32, 3:57:40]: But I want to know what that amount is, because that amount was meant for a grand event. And that grand event, that's the magnitude that we need to be on. [3:57:44, 3:57:46]: Well, it's [3:57:46, 3:57:53]: I have to put it up. Um, it seems like in twenty twenty, that's when the budget when you had the budget. [3:57:54, 3:57:54]: Right. [3:57:57, 3:58:05]: So be last year's uh well last year's budget for the centennial year that we went into the US was in 2020. [3:58:06, 3:58:09]: Right. I think [3:58:10, 3:58:14]: Yeah, I'm still trying to pull it up on let me go to the twenty twenty budget. [3:58:15, 3:58:18]: Miss Holliday, you have any idea what that was? [3:58:20, 3:58:32]: I believe it was budgeted at fifty, but I believe they only spent twenty-nine due due to the pandemic. It was twenty-some thousand that was actually spent because we didn't do the full scale events because of COVID. [3:58:32, 3:58:37]: Okay, so that's what my recollection too was that it was for uh [3:58:37, 3:58:40]: fifty. So I'm prepared to make a motion. [3:58:40, 3:58:44]: uh to move forward with this uh for such a significant event. [3:58:44, 3:58:47]: that it will it will be going for here for [3:58:47, 3:59:05]: And I will assure you that this event will make money. So I would like to make a motion to move forward with the July 4th celebration here in the city. Extravaganza. I like to have a little fun. It's been late, right? Uh for the year for$50,000 in the budget. [3:59:05, 3:59:15]: And I was just wanted to say, yes, uh uh Vanessa is correct. It was fifty thousand, but we spent about twenty thousand that year in twenty twenty. [3:59:15, 3:59:17]: All right. Is there a second to the motion? [3:59:19, 3:59:21]: Mr. Thomas seconds that motion. Further discussion. [3:59:24, 3:59:25]: No further discussion. [3:59:26, 3:59:31]: All in favor of the motion, please indicate one, two, three. [3:59:32, 3:59:36]: Mr Okay, Ms. King. Abstain, Mr. Blount? [3:59:36, 3:59:40]: Yeah, same here, sir. Okay, three zero two, the motion passed. [3:59:42, 3:59:43]: Okay. [3:59:44, 3:59:54]: The next thing I had on this list that dealt with Halloween Carnival Trunk or Treat or Hon Halloween Night Downtown ML King Senior Heratus Trail was on this list here. [3:59:55, 3:59:57]: We we uh yes sir if I might [3:59:57, 3:59:58]: Go right in. [3:59:58, 4:00:02]: We have s we have spent a lot of time and effort on the amphitheater. [4:00:03, 4:00:04]: The Common Cultural Arts Center. [4:00:05, 4:00:08]: And we really need to task uh Main Street with creating [4:00:09, 4:00:11]: A or an entity city events. [4:00:12, 4:00:13]: Uh downtown. [4:00:13, 4:00:20]: That actually incorporates something major in the downtown. I remember growing up as a young man. [4:00:20, 4:00:22]: I was from a small town. [4:00:23, 4:00:26]: But everybody in the entire Green County. [4:00:26, 4:00:28]: would come to the Halloween carnal. [4:00:29, 4:00:30]: And they will spend time and [4:00:31, 4:00:33]: The local businesses would be involved. [4:00:33, 4:00:36]: Uh we had the uh low local clother. [4:00:36, 4:00:40]: Would open their business and they would turn it into the scary house. [4:00:40, 4:00:42]: And then they had [4:00:42, 4:00:48]: The officials or the principal was set in the dunking booth and allow you to throw the bar the things and knock the booth down. [4:00:49, 4:00:53]: We gotta have some signature events. The July fourth is one of them. [4:00:53, 4:01:12]: But Halloween is certainly certainly another one of them where we do it on MLK Senior Heritage Trail where all of the businesses, and at this point, there's going to be more businesses there on MLK Senior Trail on that night where we put together a fabulous event. [4:01:12, 4:01:16]: Right now, cause we understand that a lot of entities have trunk or tree. [4:01:16, 4:01:17]: But [4:01:17, 4:01:22]: It to to offer a safe alternative for kids to trick or treat because there's so many dangers. [4:01:22, 4:01:23]: Out there. [4:01:23, 4:01:26]: I'm envisioning something like a trick or treat. [4:01:26, 4:01:27]: Well a chunk or treat. [4:01:27, 4:01:35]: And then uh some carnival like atmosphere downtown that will bring uh those entities together for us. [4:01:37, 4:01:38]: Okay. [4:01:39, 4:01:41]: All right. Yes, ma'am. [4:01:41, 4:01:55]: This year I had the first fall festival and it was on the day before Halloween. Um usually we give the other council members the courtesy of speaking of whether or not we want to turn that into a city event. [4:01:56, 4:02:13]: It was outstanding and there was a huge turnout. It would be great to be able to put more money into it and have additional rides and and and additional themes. But I plan on having the same event again next year. Um I've already reserved for it. [4:02:14, 4:02:18]: And it's already been placed on the calendar for next year. [4:02:18, 4:02:28]: Um, if the other council members want to join in with that, I would love it. Um and if it continues to grow or if we want to make it a city event, then that's what we [4:02:28, 4:02:31]: you know, we'll do, but right now [4:02:31, 4:02:39]: Um this past year was my first one and I think that it it was a really it turned out to be phenomenal. I mean we [4:02:39, 4:02:42]: They did three hundred bags of candy and it was gone and [4:02:43, 4:02:44]: Forty five minutes. [4:02:44, 4:02:47]: Um and so I think that if we [4:02:48, 4:02:50]: um continue that growth then great. [4:02:51, 4:02:55]: Um, if there's gonna be a separate event, then so be it. But [4:02:55, 4:03:03]: I think in the past we've respected other council members and their events and not stepped on our toes to do and reinvent something that we're already doing. [4:03:04, 4:03:07]: If I could reply to that, Mayor. Yeah, go right. [4:03:07, 4:03:14]: I don't Councilwoman Gantt does not have to cancel her event. She can still have her event. She has it in Clark Park in the parking lot. [4:03:15, 4:03:15]: No. [4:03:16, 4:03:34]: Uh this event will be on MLK Senior Heritage Trail in the heart of downtown. So people can see the amphitheater, they can see the new uh Main Street welcome office, the new the businesses of downtown, the people can be down there and they can be immersed. [4:03:34, 4:03:35]: Uh in downtown. [4:03:35, 4:03:37]: That's what this is about. [4:03:38, 4:03:51]: It it could be both because uh I mean I think your event was on the Saturday. Halloween is not always on Saturday. So if your Halloween event is going to be on Saturday and then Halloween uh is on Thursday. [4:03:51, 4:03:54]: Or on Wednesday, there's separation between the two. [4:03:55, 4:04:03]: The kids come to the street. I I have it scheduled for the day before Halloween. But we're doing like trunk retreats next year. [4:04:03, 4:04:09]: Um and I've already started planning for a bigger and better. I mean, if we want to combine it, great. [4:04:09, 4:04:11]: But I've already [4:04:11, 4:04:16]: pretty much already scheduled for another another one next year. [4:04:16, 4:04:27]: uh you want to if you want to uh combine your event with the city event we can move it to mlk senior heritage we can fund it appropriately and it becomes a city event we can do that [4:04:29, 4:04:36]: That would be that probably would be better and advantageous. It doesn't make sense to have two of'em and spend way more money than we need. [4:04:37, 4:04:48]: But right now the plan was to have um that particular event I had already reserved for it. And it wasn't in the parking lot, it was actually at Clark Park, the entire park. [4:04:48, 4:05:08]: So it was it we wanted to make sure at the time that whether or not it was damp and it was raining, but they came out, they still played, and there were hundreds of participants. And it was a good old-fashioned and my concern with that is um some of the games that were played were some of the old school games I used to play in my small town. [4:05:08, 4:05:18]: whether we did the cakewalk and the hoo hoop contest and next year maybe the three legged race and a couple other things, it was a great festival. Everybody sold out. [4:05:18, 4:05:28]: Um, and we just had a really good time. It was very family oriented. It was a gr uh it's something I've been wanting to do for a long time and it turned out to be great. [4:05:29, 4:05:40]: Well, you know, I proposed this same event maybe about two years ago in twenty eighteen. But again, if you if we want to move the event to uh the thirty-first. [4:05:41, 4:05:46]: And then it can be funded appropriately and then it can be a city event. [4:05:46, 4:06:06]: I don't think we have any argument to do that. If it's going to be a city event, uh, we're going to move it downtown so the business owners can be involved. And it's not just a city standalone event. And it I'm certainly okay if we're doing that. If you want to uh uh you know, uh all of those entities can work together. This is an opportunity where we you and I can actually work together. [4:06:06, 4:06:10]: together and the whole council i if if if if that's agreeable to you. [4:06:15, 4:06:26]: I had skipped I don't mind doing a s a a Halloween event is what I'm trying to tell you with the city. I don't mind, but I had already planned for it again for next year and I've [4:06:26, 4:06:37]: I I don't know if it will take away from it or not. I don't think I mind it being combined. I don't if if the city's gonna fund it and we all participate, so be it. I don't know about it being on Halloween. [4:06:37, 4:06:57]: Um, I don't want to take away from the tradition of Halloween being in the community and the subdivisions. Um, but I have no objection to doing it in our downtown Main Street area or near our amp, you know, on that strip or or wherever we're gonna do with it. I have no objection to any of that, but I I would like [4:06:57, 4:07:07]: um some buy-in and some say-so because I think it was really important that the particular type of things we did there were like old school traditions that I I'm used to. [4:07:08, 4:07:16]: That's all I think I think we'll all have some say so uh in the event, including you and uh some of the things that you said worked out very well. [4:07:16, 4:07:19]: So certainly we would want to incorporate [4:07:19, 4:07:27]: uh those into the event. But I think all having all of the council members uh be able to participate in it. I mean we're twelve, we're nine. [4:07:27, 4:07:29]: Ten months out, so [4:07:29, 4:07:34]: I don't think it's too late to change the date and work with us and have all of us be able to work with this in [4:07:35, 4:07:36]: Uh this together. I think [4:07:36, 4:07:43]: You had to kind of scrap a little bit of the budget together in order to make it work. If it's a city event, we're gonna fund it. [4:07:43, 4:08:03]: uh appropriately with the right amount of funding to make it okay. And I think it's key that it's on Halloween itself. It gives people the idea, it gives them a option rather than going into the community where it has been. And then they could do both. They could come to us and they could still go uh [4:08:03, 4:08:06]: out trick or treating uh as well. So that is [4:08:06, 4:08:12]: uh what I have proposed. I'd like to hear from the rest of the council members. Not just up to me. It's what everybody here [4:08:12, 4:08:16]: once'cause I think we all should be involved in this and like I said, I brought this up. [4:08:16, 4:08:19]: Uh in twenty eighteen and it didn't go anywhere. [4:08:19, 4:08:24]: So but at this point I think we should uh work together. So everyone, and this is a collective event. [4:08:25, 4:08:45]: Well, I would tell you that uh on the same night, uh uh doing on the same night. I'll tell you in my community, Monar Village, where Ms. Gantt lives, we have an outstanding uh uh celebration per se. And a lot of people come through the neighborhood and I just help out in that process. But but uh if we're swinging on the s if this is approved, we're having the same night, then I have to deal with how I'm going to [4:08:45, 4:08:54]: support that I got to support the city in the process and figure out how I can support uh my own community, individual community. But I'll just deal with that internally. I'll make it work one way or the other. [4:08:54, 4:08:59]: But anyway, I just had to say that because I know we have a great event going on all every year, but regardless of that. [4:09:00, 4:09:09]: Any other calls? And I have little kids, and I can tell you right now that a tradition of being in your neighborhood, going to your neighbor's door-to-door means a lot to us. [4:09:10, 4:09:30]: So I I'm the I think I'm the only person on this council with young kids. And going into our subdivision in Monarch Village on October 31st, there's nothing like it. Um and I think that it's been that way. It's one of the reasons why I've stayed in the community that I'm in right now. Um, and so I think that [4:09:30, 4:09:32]: us having it on that day. [4:09:33, 4:09:40]: It could be a bit of a it we're changing the tradition of a lot. And yeah, people can go to both. [4:09:40, 4:09:51]: But you want when you spend money like that on the city and you have an event like that, you want it to last. You want people to stay to the end like they did for my event this year. [4:09:53, 4:10:02]: Well, I'm I'm prepared as I said to make a motion to have it be on the thirty first, to be downtown for Martin Luther King. [4:10:02, 4:10:04]: Uh senior heritage. [4:10:04, 4:10:09]: Uh if you certainly uh aren't don't want to move your event, you don't have to because you can have it. [4:10:10, 4:10:14]: And we could have two. But I I I I certainly would encourage you to [4:10:14, 4:10:32]: work with us so all of us can be involved and do uh what we needed to do. In that instance, I'd like to make a motion to move forward uh with this event as I've described it, an event of Halloween Carnival downtown Stockbridge on MRK Senior Heritage on October the 31st. [4:10:32, 4:10:36]: Which would involve trunk or treat, which would involve the scary house. [4:10:36, 4:10:39]: uh the traditional things uh with a Halloween carnival. [4:10:40, 4:10:42]: And I will let uh the staff [4:10:43, 4:10:49]: whether that be events or main street, come up with um what needs to be done in order to [4:10:49, 4:10:53]: uh make this happen and uh as we've already indicated a [4:10:54, 4:11:02]: An event of this magnitude would be about$10,000 with additional funding. So that would be uh what I would suggest on in my motion. Thank you. [4:11:03, 4:11:04]: Is there a second to the motion? [4:11:08, 4:11:14]: Is there a second? Okay, Mr. Thomas, second that motion. Any further. I do have a comment. [4:11:15, 4:11:16]: L [4:11:17, 4:11:18]: All right, Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [4:11:19, 4:11:26]: My comment is, um, and I absolutely understand uh Councilwoman Gantt and Mark Village um [4:11:27, 4:11:28]: On Halloween Day is pretty big. [4:11:29, 4:11:31]: It's been that way for years. [4:11:31, 4:11:34]: But not all subdivisions in the city. [4:11:35, 4:11:37]: Have nine hundred homes. [4:11:37, 4:11:41]: We have smaller subdivisions and those residents. [4:11:41, 4:11:42]: They don't [4:11:44, 4:11:47]: They don't have such a big turnout like Monarch Village. [4:11:48, 4:11:49]: So I think having um [4:11:50, 4:11:51]: A city. [4:11:51, 4:11:52]: Halloween event. [4:11:53, 4:11:54]: Would be beneficial. [4:11:54, 4:11:56]: For the entire city. [4:11:57, 4:11:59]: um for those smaller subdivisions. [4:12:00, 4:12:02]: And of course for Monarch Village as well. [4:12:03, 4:12:05]: Um so I support it. [4:12:06, 4:12:07]: I do. [4:12:07, 4:12:09]: Okay, stand by. Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. [4:12:10, 4:12:11]: Yeah, um [4:12:12, 4:12:17]: I like the concept of bringing these entities into downtown. [4:12:17, 4:12:21]: uh to to to boost you know the the economy [4:12:21, 4:12:23]: And and to show other [4:12:23, 4:12:28]: uh business owners about what we're trying to bring into into the downtown. [4:12:29, 4:12:32]: Uh I do understand about the uh the dates. [4:12:33, 4:12:36]: You know, that would only be my only concern with that, but [4:12:36, 4:12:42]: But I think though, and I could I could picture this being a great, great, great event. [4:12:42, 4:12:49]: especially if it's a city event and everyone is behind it, I can see this being really, really great. [4:12:49, 4:12:53]: And I think it would give um a boost. [4:12:53, 4:12:56]: uh to downtown and as you mentioned uh mayor pro tem [4:12:57, 4:13:01]: Hopefully the uh the welcome center will be um open. [4:13:02, 4:13:15]: Um I know it's gonna take a while for Mr. Zavain, uh if he if he does anything and maybe some of those uh other businesses in that area uh will begin to uh materialize and then as years go. [4:13:16, 4:13:17]: Uh even on the um [4:13:18, 4:13:19]: You know, on the other side. [4:13:19, 4:13:26]: um you know pumping a little juice into downtown but so i i i support that and i do like the concept [4:13:27, 4:13:27]: Um [4:13:28, 4:13:37]: You know, um yeah, you you propose a date and I guess I can go along with that, but I like the idea of bringing everything that we can uh in in the downtown area. [4:13:39, 4:13:40]: Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [4:13:41, 4:13:43]: Mirror on um Halloween. [4:13:44, 4:13:48]: Along with global impact Christian Management, you got about seventeen churches. [4:13:48, 4:13:52]: in that area that are having Halloween events. [4:13:52, 4:14:01]: Um, and beside the church besides the churches having Halloween events, you have people that are sponsoring events for Halloween. [4:14:02, 4:14:05]: And so having any one community lacking [4:14:06, 4:14:12]: in a Halloween event that's not existence in the city uh stockbridge. [4:14:12, 4:14:19]: Uh but I I would say, and I guess it don't matter at this point, that I would caution council members that we do plan events. [4:14:20, 4:14:33]: uh city events like this just out of the blue that would uh be so close to another council member's event, whether whoever it is on this council. There's a I think that there's a respect level right there. [4:14:34, 4:14:50]: You know, I I I wouldn't plan a bike a bike ride on a on a councilman Alexander's trail, uh with the stuff that he does at the park. You know, that's in respect to his uh initiative and his event. You want everything to be as successful as possible. Uh [4:14:50, 4:14:53]: And to to to lay out an option. [4:14:53, 4:14:59]: Rather we do it because we have the power to do it or either you join us or we're gonna do it anyway. [4:14:59, 4:15:02]: When it comes to a council any council member on here. [4:15:03, 4:15:06]: Uh because you have the right to do something, don't mean it's the right thing to do. [4:15:06, 4:15:10]: And I think they were to respect each each other's uh initiatives. [4:15:10, 4:15:13]: That's one thing, but when it comes to Halloween. [4:15:13, 4:15:22]: Nobody in the city limits of Stockbridge are lacking in those areas with so many trunk or treats going on. So many churches are being involved. [4:15:22, 4:15:26]: And then to be competitive with another council member's event. [4:15:26, 4:15:30]: Um, regardless of who it is, either one of us, I just think is wrong. [4:15:32, 4:15:33]: Ms. Barber, back to you. [4:15:34, 4:15:40]: Yeah, um so I thought the whole purpose of the council was to do things to attract [4:15:41, 4:15:43]: citizens to our downtown. [4:15:43, 4:15:45]: What better days to do it than [4:15:46, 4:15:48]: Holidays and special events. [4:15:49, 4:15:59]: Even with um this past Halloween, I know the youth council, they had a fall festival, was it before Councilwoman Gance or after hers? [4:16:00, 4:16:01]: There were [4:16:01, 4:16:02]: A week or two apart. [4:16:03, 4:16:06]: But I thought that our whole goal and focus [4:16:07, 4:16:12]: Was to find creative ways to attract people to our downtown. [4:16:12, 4:16:15]: Is that not what our mission and goal is? [4:16:16, 4:16:17]: So why not do it? [4:16:18, 4:16:19]: On Halloween. [4:16:20, 4:16:22]: Mayor. [4:16:22, 4:16:24]: Not everybody lives in [4:16:25, 4:16:30]: a large subdivision like a monarch village that is known to have these events. [4:16:30, 4:16:33]: This is not about a council initiative for me. [4:16:33, 4:16:35]: It is about the best interest. [4:16:36, 4:16:38]: other people and what we're trying to do here. [4:16:40, 4:16:40]: That's all. [4:16:41, 4:16:53]: Mayor, people like politics. Mayor people come from uh from the Kingdom. Okay, hold hold on. The question is we we we do have a we do have a budget. [4:16:53, 4:16:55]: For a Main Street division. [4:16:55, 4:16:59]: to dictate to to tell us what they the events they want to have downtown. [4:16:59, 4:17:03]: And this is an initiative brought by brought forward by the council. [4:17:03, 4:17:09]: not by main street it brought forward by the counts of the colleagues of another colleague that's having an event. [4:17:10, 4:17:10]: So [4:17:11, 4:17:12]: To justify your actions. [4:17:13, 4:17:16]: You can do anything if you got a reason to justify your actions. [4:17:16, 4:17:21]: I'm not gonna argue that point. You go right ahead and do what you guys wanna do. I'm just saying for me. [4:17:22, 4:17:27]: You know, this is something you all this council is promoting downtown, not Main Street. [4:17:27, 4:17:30]: that are getting paid to do it. It's you all doing it. [4:17:32, 4:17:33]: All right, Ms. Gantt, go ahead, please. [4:17:34, 4:17:36]: We'll make this last comment. We'll make a vote. [4:17:36, 4:17:43]: Thank you. So Monarch Village has visitors from all over. People come from the Cab County. They come from all over on. [4:17:43, 4:17:46]: Halloween day, Halloween night, [4:17:46, 4:17:50]: Um the church have event they have their trunk and tree trunk or trees. [4:17:50, 4:17:51]: And I uh [4:17:51, 4:17:56]: for the respect that I was give to the other council members. I'm not happy with that. [4:17:56, 4:18:01]: Um I could do toy drives and bike drives and all the other drives during Christmas. [4:18:02, 4:18:07]: Um, but I bear off and not do those things because I don't want to be accomplished. [4:18:08, 4:18:10]: with another council. [4:18:10, 4:18:14]: We already have these I have the a file. [4:18:14, 4:18:22]: And you're basically saying, Well, you either come with us or we're just gonna do it. That's why again, you're kinda faded. We can't hear you. [4:18:23, 4:18:26]: I'm sorry. Oh, yeah. I said I have a [4:18:27, 4:18:28]: Can you hear me? [4:18:29, 4:18:49]: Yeah, we hear you now. Go ahead. Okay. That you did you hear me when I said that people come from all over and go to trick-or-treat in Marnark Village? It's not just Marnark Village community. It's the other subdivisions, those smaller subdivisions in Stockbridge, they still come to Marnark Village. My daughter's her friends, they might live in other AVM forests, you name [4:18:49, 4:18:57]: And they come and they meet up, and everybody goes to Marnart Village on October 31st. That's number one. Number two, [4:18:58, 4:19:01]: When it comes to uh Christmas event, um [4:19:03, 4:19:10]: Let's say um Mayor Potem Alexander does a toy drive or anything of that sort. [4:19:10, 4:19:30]: I don't do the same thing even if I could, because it's in conflict. I d we already have an event. You already know what's going on. And until that person, kind of like the food trucks um or sounds of summer concert or anything else, when it got way too big, we moved it to a city event. Councilman Blount had back. [4:19:30, 4:19:31]: to school. [4:19:32, 4:19:52]: He moved it to a city event. Right now, this is my first one. I don't mind moving it. I do have a problem with October 31st. Um, for if we're gonna do it jointly, I would have a problem with that. But I also have a problem with not getting the common courtesy of asking whether or not we could do it. [4:19:52, 4:20:02]: in this manner because in the past, even with Councilman Blount's event and everyone else is like, well, will y'all please let's make this a city event. That didn't take place. [4:20:02, 4:20:09]: This is just, hey, let's do it this way. We can have two fall festival events, but I don't think that is necessary. [4:20:09, 4:20:29]: Um right now I have a the same DJ, we have other um activities, and I'm not here to say that the budget will not be the same or less or bigger or or whatever the case may be. Um, or we have more sponsors, but I just think that. [4:20:29, 4:20:32]: You know I have an event and all of a sudden [4:20:33, 4:20:44]: Um, you know, regardless of the way we vote or the way things seem or our different differences, uh as a matter of respect, you already know I have an event. And then you want to put it. [4:20:45, 4:20:49]: on the same day or day well now you want to put it on Halloween [4:20:49, 4:20:52]: an event very similar to what I already have. [4:20:53, 4:20:55]: And so I just asked that you don't do that. [4:20:56, 4:21:06]: I mean, if we can come up with it later, fine if we agree to do some type of fall event, so be it. But right now, I've already planned, I've already reserved. [4:21:07, 4:21:08]: for that event. [4:21:10, 4:21:30]: All right. I will tell you stand by stand by please. I would tell you, Ms. Gantt that what Mayor Pro Temp said earlier that he approached us uh back in 2018 with this concept and it didn't take over then. So I guess it's not the first time that obviously not the first time you brought it forward. No, it's not. So in this aspect. But anyway, I'm just I'm just recalling. [4:21:30, 4:21:50]: What he said earlier, just trying to pay attention. Listen, Miss Barber, you have to stand by. You got to stand by now. Go ahead, Mayor Protem. We need to wind this down, but go ahead, Mayor Pro Tam. Now I guess you want to respond to her message. Yeah, uh, you said exactly what I was going to say. This is not the first time. And then in 2018, Ms. Gale was against it. That's why we didn't move forward. So we're moving forward together this time. [4:21:50, 4:21:51]: Yeah. [4:21:51, 4:22:04]: I would never be against the ball festival. I'm pretty sure you can see a record on that. Never would I be against any kind of festival or any activity for children. And I can I I don't even have to even look at the record for that one. [4:22:04, 4:22:05]: All right. [4:22:05, 4:22:07]: Good. If that was the case. All right. [4:22:08, 4:22:14]: All right, now listen, Miss Barber, if you Miss Barber, if you want to say something, we'll do that and then we're gonna take a vote so we can get move on. [4:22:14, 4:22:22]: Okay, I just wanted clarity. So um Councilwoman Gantt, what day is your council initiative to take place? [4:22:23, 4:22:29]: It will be the I'm thinking it will be on that Saturday and I don't have if is is Nobia on here. [4:22:29, 4:22:33]: No, she's not, no. Okay. I think it's on that scene. [4:22:33, 4:22:34]: It's not. [4:22:35, 4:22:36]: I'm sorry. [4:22:36, 4:22:39]: your council initiative is not on Halloween. [4:22:39, 4:22:59]: Oh no, I wouldn't put anything on I wouldn't recommend anybody put anything on Halloween. The problem I have is that we're going after the same event. So when we're adding trunk retreat next year, we're gonna be doing the same thing. We we've already planned to do as part of it to get some of the stores involved in downtown. We've already [4:22:59, 4:23:14]: already plan to get some, you know, ask for certain sponsorships and we'll be going after the same thing and doing the same activity. So we'll be bumping heads during the same month, going after the same people. And there's been a complaint about that in the past. [4:23:14, 4:23:30]: where stores get tired because we're asking the same people over and over again to help us with certain things. And here we are having two of the same events. It just happens to be one is a counseling initiative and then one wants to be voted on upon as the city of Stockbridge. That's all. [4:23:31, 4:23:37]: All right. All right. We'd have we have plenty of discussion. So the motion's been made. It's been seconded. So all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [4:23:39, 4:23:47]: One, two, three. All right. And so Ms. Gann, I would say you're against the motion. I will assume Ms. Gann or you're abstaining. [4:23:48, 4:23:53]: I'm against the motion of having it on Halloween, especially. All right, Mr. Blount. [4:23:54, 4:24:00]: I'm against all right. So it is vote motion passed three two. All right. Mayor. [4:24:00, 4:24:05]: Yes, ma'am. Just for clarification, this is a separate event, correct? It's not going to be merged. [4:24:06, 4:24:11]: No, it won't be no, no, it's just a separate motion was a separate event, city events, what it was. Thank you. All right. [4:24:13, 4:24:20]: All right, I have on this list Streetlight program in collaboration with Henry County for expressway exit and commercial corridors. [4:24:22, 4:24:23]: Yes, Miss Ms. Barber. [4:24:24, 4:24:30]: But yes, Ms. Bob. Earlier when we were still discussing the budget, I still had at least [4:24:31, 4:24:33]: Two items to consider. [4:24:33, 4:24:37]: Okay. We're not we'll we'll we'll get your two items. [4:24:38, 4:24:39]: Uh you you will get your two items. [4:24:43, 4:24:47]: Are we still discussing the budget? Yeah, we're still talking about the budget. [4:24:49, 4:24:52]: All right, I'll tell you what, I'll relinquish that. [4:24:52, 4:24:54]: What's your item what's your next item? Go ahead. [4:24:54, 4:25:03]: Okay, so um at our last the second reading, um Chief Tramer spoke about um the gap in [4:25:04, 4:25:09]: Here County services, police services from January to June. [4:25:11, 4:25:13]: Mr. Wiggins, do you account for that time period? [4:25:14, 4:25:16]: In which Henry County Police Services [4:25:18, 4:25:19]: We'll continue. [4:25:20, 4:25:21]: in the twenty twenty two budget. [4:25:24, 4:25:29]: I have to refer to cheap. I think that's part of the seven hundred thousand that we put in there. [4:25:29, 4:25:31]: Oh, okay. So you did add it. [4:25:32, 4:25:37]: Um I um think so we might need to add Chief to make just to just to confirm. Is he on the line, Chief Tramer? [4:25:37, 4:25:39]: Yes he is. He just unmuted. Go ahead, Chief. [4:25:40, 4:25:46]: Yeah, I'm trying to get my camera to work. I'm sorry something's happening here, but uh no, I that wasn't included. The uh [4:25:46, 4:25:48]: Additional monies was [4:25:49, 4:25:55]: to fund the police department from June for Stockbridge police officers from June through the end of the year. [4:25:55, 4:26:03]: To allow for the onboarding of uh a few more people prior to our rollout date, uh as as it relates to implementation team members. [4:26:04, 4:26:12]: So that three hundred thousand dollars for police services for Henry County was not part of that three point three. So if we wanted to continue with services at the same level. [4:26:13, 4:26:13]: They [4:26:13, 4:26:18]: has been provided in the past, we would need to add three hundred thousand to the budget to [4:26:18, 4:26:26]: uh fund that from January until July when our and I have the amount of two hundred and eighty eight thousand. [4:26:28, 4:26:29]: Cheap trainer. [4:26:30, 4:26:32]: Two hundred and eighty eight thousand. [4:26:32, 4:26:36]: Yes, for Henry County PD from January to July. [4:26:39, 4:26:40]: How did you know what it? [4:26:40, 4:26:43]: Yeah, I I think and I I think that they're [4:26:44, 4:26:50]: I'd have to I'd have to pull that up. It was somewhere around there, uh Councilwoman Barber, two eighty eight to three hundred thousand dollars to [4:26:51, 4:26:52]: uh funding. [4:26:52, 4:27:00]: Okay. I I could pull up specifically. I'd have to go back. I'm trying to find through some files here, so give me just a moment. Okay. I just wanted to make it [4:27:01, 4:27:04]: In that process, I thought that um [4:27:04, 4:27:24]: They're they're gonna start with uh releasing. Maybe that's what I'm thinking about the building. I thought that maybe come f uh February, March that they would no longer be in the building, which made made me think that there will be no longer really policing, that we will be we will be wrapping up and I know we full full information that in first of July, but I thought during the course of the late [4:27:24, 4:27:28]: winter into the spring we'll be starting to take control of some of this. [4:27:28, 4:27:41]: I guess maybe I'm mistaken in this case now. I wasn't aware that we were paying anything because Buddy Welch told us that, you know, we went to that agreement where they had to defend the city like they were defending any other unincorporated areas. [4:27:41, 4:27:42]: Right. [4:27:42, 4:27:50]: Well that's true too. Could we still pay taxes in that aspect? This this this if I if I could state here, this is for supplemental services. So [4:27:50, 4:27:56]: The city has been paying for the last 10 years for a supplemental business and park patrol. [4:27:56, 4:27:59]: where Henry County provides three officers seven days a week. [4:28:00, 4:28:06]: to patrol uh the business district and park. We we we we haven't been getting that. So [4:28:06, 4:28:18]: Nobody here honestly believes that we've actually been getting that. I think we've just been subsidizing, but I don't believe anybody here thinks that those anybody ever seen those two offices in the park? [4:28:18, 4:28:23]: Stand stand by a second. But Chief, if Chief, actually if um [4:28:24, 4:28:36]: I mean if it's if that's the supplemental piece then I would think as we as we get our individuals lined up, couldn't we not do that ourselves? I mean, uh as we kind of ramp up the full full capability here. [4:28:37, 4:28:43]: Yeah, we wouldn't be in a position to start absorbing any patrol function until July. [4:28:44, 4:28:50]: We wouldn't be bringing our patrol officers on board until June and from June to July we would be training them. [4:28:50, 4:28:55]: Ін поліси, просиджу, і а метод з операції со. [4:28:55, 4:29:00]: in terms of us taking over actual patrol duties, we would not be in a position to do that until July. [4:29:00, 4:29:02]: Unless we wanted to [4:29:02, 4:29:09]: put those funds on the front end and we could bring officers on board sooner. We could bring a contingent of officers to be able [4:29:09, 4:29:18]: To uh provide some of those services. But again, that would be contingent on us having the ability to have them outfitted and equipped to be able to. [4:29:18, 4:29:24]: uh to take over those responsibilities, such as having police vehicles that are fully outfitted and equipped. [4:29:25, 4:29:29]: uniform, so on and so forth, so that they could uh absorb those responsibilities. [4:29:30, 4:29:33]: Now in addition to the park patrols, and I'll tell you I I did [4:29:35, 4:29:38]: go back through and um [4:29:39, 4:29:41]: looked at and had Mr. Wiggins provide me with [4:29:42, 4:29:48]: what we've been paying Henry County for supplemental services. And I did my own inquiry and investigation, reached out to [4:29:48, 4:29:54]: the uh individuals who are coordinating these supplemental assignments for the city. [4:29:54, 4:30:05]: And uh with the park patrol and business patrol again, that's something that's been happening for the last 10 years. Lieutenant Powell with Henry County Petey is the coordinator of that. And I had him provide me with activity sheets of his officers. [4:30:05, 4:30:10]: uh that outlined what they're doing during those time periods. So he's [4:30:11, 4:30:17]: uh provided me with that for the last month and has continued to do that when he submits his uh payroll request to the city. [4:30:17, 4:30:23]: We also have officers that provide security at city council meetings. We have officers that we contract with. [4:30:24, 4:30:34]: to handle uh municipal court services. Obviously uh with the amphitheater, we will continue to have to pay Henry County until we're in a position, especially with concerts starting in March. [4:30:34, 4:30:37]: To be able to provide off duty uh services. [4:30:37, 4:30:42]: I think the officer at City Hall every day that's something uh we have discussed. [4:30:43, 4:30:56]: uh reevaluating. Uh Mayor Ford, you and I had conversation about that. Um and that may not be something that's necessary, but currently uh we have an officer staffed at City Hall from Henry County from 8 a.m. until 5 p.m. uh [4:30:56, 4:30:58]: all days that the city buildings are open. [4:30:59, 4:31:13]: So when you take into account all of those additional supplemental services that are provided by the county and we want to continue those in any form or fashion, some of those which I believe we will have to, uh not that I believe I know but we'll have to as it relates to municipal court. [4:31:13, 4:31:18]: uh especially and uh the amphitheatre so you know that that [4:31:18, 4:31:28]: that funding can decrease if we decide to eliminate certain services that we're currently paying for. But if we're to continue moving forward in the same [4:31:29, 4:31:37]: with the same services that we're receiving, it would require us adding three thousand dollars three hundred thousand or close to three hundred thousand rather. [4:31:37, 4:31:40]: to the budget to be able to continue to provide those services. Uh [4:31:40, 4:31:41]: Through Henry County. [4:31:43, 4:31:44]: For for six months. [4:31:45, 4:31:47]: For six months, that's correct. Okay. [4:31:48, 4:31:51]: All right. And uh let me ask this question, Mayor. [4:31:52, 4:31:53]: Sure, go ahead. [4:31:53, 4:31:58]: So or is that it that certainly should be eligible for funds, right? ARPA funds. [4:32:00, 4:32:03]: An existing public safety is expenditure. [4:32:05, 4:32:22]: Yeah, it sounded like it'd be it'd be it sounded like it should uh work with no problem. Um it should fit this uh fit that uh that mode. I would say so it it it should be into the point that came up earlier today regarding uh the police budget. So currently it was estimated at three point three. [4:32:22, 4:32:24]: We move it up to three point six. [4:32:25, 4:32:37]: to allow for continuation of those services, we have to take into consideration. We'll be getting almost two million back, rollback taxes from the county, which leaves us to fund about$1.6 million. [4:32:37, 4:32:44]: Uh and we would decide I guess whether that's coming from general fund or ARPA funds wherever you all want to uh fund that. [4:32:44, 4:32:48]: Uh, if you decide not to continue with those services, we could probably reduce those costs. [4:32:48, 4:32:49]: Buy. [4:32:50, 4:32:56]: $150 to$200,000, I would estimate, if we just went with municipal court and amphitheater security. [4:32:56, 4:33:01]: Which would require us not to need as much funding, but it again that would be based on the wishes um [4:33:02, 4:33:05]: uh the council regarding what services they want to continue with the county. [4:33:06, 4:33:10]: Well, I I would suggest that we continue at the same level and use the [4:33:11, 4:33:16]: ARPA fund because they're a fellow. There's a lot of stuff going on now. Now's not the time for any [4:33:16, 4:33:18]: Considering any cuts in any services. [4:33:18, 4:33:20]: Oh, public safety, so [4:33:20, 4:33:24]: I would be supportive. It's not up to me, but I would be supportive of continuing [4:33:25, 4:33:26]: uh funding at the same level. [4:33:27, 4:33:29]: And using uh supplemental [4:33:29, 4:33:33]: our Arbor funds to pay the Henry County forces to continue to do what they're doing. [4:33:34, 4:33:36]: Or three hundred thousand dollars is what we're talking about. Right. [4:33:38, 4:33:42]: Six months. Okay. Are any other comments, concerns? [4:33:46, 4:33:48]: All right, is there a motion then in a sense? [4:33:48, 4:33:49]: Almost. [4:33:50, 4:33:52]: Sophia. Okay. [4:33:53, 4:33:54]: And uh [4:33:55, 4:33:59]: Stand by one second. I want to make sure something here. Miss Holiday. [4:34:00, 4:34:01]: Miss Holliday? [4:34:02, 4:34:07]: Yes, sir. I'm just trying to unmute. Did you understand the motion? Do you have it motioned down properly? [4:34:09, 4:34:23]: If and if you don't, I'll ask Mayor Pro Tem to no ac I ask May actually Mayor Potem, could you No I that's why I was Councilman Barber. Oh I'm sorry I'm sorry, Miss Barber. When you let me talk. [4:34:24, 4:34:28]: Go ahead. I'm sorry. Go ahead. I want to make sure Mr. Bolly has this down properly. [4:34:28, 4:34:35]: So I I asked if we could make sure in the budget that we account for police services. [4:34:35, 4:34:37]: Through Henry County. [4:34:37, 4:34:38]: From [4:34:39, 4:34:40]: January? [4:34:40, 4:34:42]: Through July. [4:34:42, 4:34:42]: What? [4:34:43, 4:34:44]: January through July. [4:34:45, 4:34:49]: in the amount of three hundred thousand dollars. [4:34:50, 4:34:53]: Can you specify ARPA funds can be used for that? [4:34:54, 4:34:55]: Arbuf thoughts. [4:34:55, 4:34:57]: May also be used for this. [4:34:57, 4:34:58]: Second. [4:35:00, 4:35:02]: This holiday you have that now? [4:35:02, 4:35:04]: I have that. Um [4:35:04, 4:35:07]: I just had a question about it, but what's your question? [4:35:08, 4:35:10]: My question was I thought that [4:35:11, 4:35:12]: You all [4:35:12, 4:35:13]: Actually [4:35:14, 4:35:19]: motion for this in a previous meeting because the original budget that was presented. [4:35:19, 4:35:22]: was seventeen point four million dollars. [4:35:22, 4:35:27]: And it the budget presented tonight was eight uh eighteen point two. [4:35:29, 4:35:30]: Okay, which is the eight hundred. [4:35:31, 4:35:33]: Do you recall Councilwoman Barber? [4:35:33, 4:35:39]: Yes, and Ms. uh Chief Tramor actually presented that at our last meeting. [4:35:40, 4:35:42]: That is why I asked Mr. Wiggins. [4:35:43, 4:35:44]: Did you include? [4:35:45, 4:35:46]: Um that amount. [4:35:47, 4:35:49]: Да Чеф Траймер меншу. [4:35:49, 4:35:54]: At our last meeting, it was for two hundred and eighty-eight thousand dollars, is what he had. [4:35:55, 4:35:57]: in this presentation. Is that included in this [4:35:58, 4:35:59]: Third reading. [4:36:00, 4:36:02]: And no, it's not. [4:36:04, 4:36:10]: It wasn't put in. Okay. All right. So what I had put in was seven hundred thousand. [4:36:12, 4:36:22]: Not the two not the not I didn't add the two hundred and eighty-eight with the seven hundred thousand for the plea. Okay. Um it's not for the clarification, uh John. [4:36:22, 4:36:30]: Ms. Holliday, was there indeed a vote at our last meeting to add this? Because I kind of remember that we did. [4:36:30, 4:36:31]: But I wasn't sure. [4:36:32, 4:36:40]: Well, Mr. Wiggins would have to deter mean would have to state why the original budget that was 17.4 is now 18.2, whether or not [4:36:42, 4:36:48]: I would have to go back to the record to look, but there was a reason it was changed from seventeen point four to eighteen point two. [4:36:48, 4:36:51]: To to to include that seven hundred thousand. [4:36:52, 4:36:54]: For the increase in the police department budget. [4:36:55, 4:36:58]: Which made it which w jumped it up to three point three. [4:37:00, 4:37:18]: And that, let me let me make sure I can re if I remember this right, John, is that that was for salaries for the new four officers from January to June. This 288 or the 300 that you're rounding it to is for. [4:37:18, 4:37:24]: The Henry County Police Services, correct? This is what we're clear now. [4:37:24, 4:37:25]: Great. Thank you. [4:37:26, 4:37:33]: That is that is why I think Chief Kramer said it's it hadn't been added. That is why I believe he said that. And he's he can hear this. Is that correct, Chief? [4:37:34, 4:37:40]: So that's we have it correct. Thank you. Okay, so that's correct. So otherwise it needs to we need to vote on this. This amount needs to be voted on. [4:37:41, 4:37:41]: Okay. [4:37:42, 4:37:50]: So yes, thank you, sir. Okay, the motion has been made by Ms. Barber, seconded by Mayor Pro Town. We've had enough discussion. All in favor of motion, please indicate. [4:37:51, 4:37:52]: One, two, three. [4:37:53, 4:37:55]: Okay, Miss Gantt, Miss Blount, Mr. Blount. [4:37:57, 4:37:58]: I'm staying, man. [4:37:58, 4:38:00]: Okay, Miss Dant. [4:38:02, 4:38:18]: Ms. Gantt I abstained. All right. So a three zero two motion pass. All right. Ms. Barber, you have something else? Yes, one more. Um, I had a uh idea. I'd like to see us do either a parade or fireworks on New Year's Eve. [4:38:18, 4:38:19]: Um [4:38:21, 4:38:22]: Yeah. [4:38:23, 4:38:27]: Yours okay. I want to make a motion um to add a season. [4:38:27, 4:38:32]: Talk about what it includes. Talk about the event a little bit so everybody knows. [4:38:32, 4:38:33]: What you want in it. [4:38:34, 4:38:36]: Yeah, talk about you want a parade, you want [4:38:37, 4:38:39]: Fireworks, you want what is it gonna look like? [4:38:40, 4:38:48]: Well, um of course we would leave that up to the event staff. Okay. Follow the plans, but um [4:38:49, 4:38:50]: Fireworks. [4:38:50, 4:38:58]: um if we are able to at the amphitheater. If not, then of course we can host it somewhere in the downtown area, MLK. [4:38:59, 4:39:03]: Um are trying to attract people to our downtown area. [4:39:04, 4:39:05]: Um [4:39:06, 4:39:07]: Uh [4:39:07, 4:39:11]: maybe on i don't know new year's eve is a good [4:39:12, 4:39:12]: Day. [4:39:12, 4:39:17]: It it would probably be a New Year's Eve, uh will probably be perfect. [4:39:18, 4:39:24]: Or we're gonna drop the ball, we're gonna count it down. That's a New Year's Eve concert. See, that's that that that works. [4:39:25, 4:39:44]: That's what I'm thinking of. Yes. People don't mind being you're outside. Do you see Times people be like, I want to have no c I hear us have this discussion all the time about well it's too cold. I see people in Times Square on New Year's Eve at a concert in 10 degrees. So they do that outside too. So yeah, yeah. [4:39:45, 4:39:45]: Yeah. [4:39:46, 4:39:47]: So that is my [4:39:48, 4:39:48]: Proposal. [4:39:49, 4:39:50]: What's the dollar amount? [4:39:50, 4:39:51]: Um [4:39:55, 4:39:58]: What did you have for Fourth of July? Was it or how [4:39:59, 4:40:04]: For Halloween we had ten thousand and fourth of July was extravaganza, we had fifty. [4:40:04, 4:40:06]: Okay, can we do ten thousand? [4:40:06, 4:40:08]: Just just to see [4:40:08, 4:40:15]: We won't do it um for New Year's of twenty twenty two, but we can certainly well. [4:40:15, 4:40:26]: This is twenty twenty two budget you're talking about. I know. Yeah, it's uh it's fun. Just go ahead and notice on trying to plan something. So I don't know. Maybe I need to hold this idea. [4:40:26, 4:40:29]: Um, for twenty twenty three budget. [4:40:30, 4:40:31]: It's up to you. [4:40:32, 4:40:38]: I'll wait until twenty twenty three budget because this is only two weeks, three weeks away. [4:40:38, 4:40:38]: No. [4:40:39, 4:40:45]: That's okay. No, no, we're not gonna have it this year. It'll be it would be twenty twenty two. It will be for the next year. [4:40:45, 4:40:50]: Um twenty twenty two. It would be in a twenty twenty two budget. [4:40:50, 4:40:53]: talking about the twenty twenty two budget. I'll withdraw. [4:40:54, 4:40:55]: Okay. [4:40:56, 4:40:56]: Uh Mr. Blount. [4:40:57, 4:40:58]: Mm. [4:40:58, 4:41:01]: It it may be a good idea to to let [4:41:02, 4:41:08]: Councilwoman Bar, Mr. Alexander and and uh Mr. Thomas get together and figure out what's the event plan they're gonna do. [4:41:09, 4:41:11]: Uh,'cause I it's gonna pass with him and [4:41:12, 4:41:17]: I mean that way we won't have to have discussion out front. They can decide what they're gonna do and go ahead and make it happen. [4:41:17, 4:41:23]: Uh I mean, you know, the nights getting old and then they say, Hey, let's do this and let's do the money and no, okay, I'll wait and I [4:41:24, 4:41:29]: Why don't they get just take a five minutes and get together and get a discussion going and figure out what they're gonna do? [4:41:29, 4:41:30]: All right. [4:41:30, 4:41:39]: So uh uh Ms. Barber, do you have anything else? Uh you had is that's your last uh last thing you wanted to add tonight or discuss? That was the o that was the last item to consider. [4:41:39, 4:41:58]: All right. Okay, go ahead. You you want you go ahead with the list? Yeah, we just want to go down the list, right? Go ahead, go ahead. The list that uh came out. So anyway, uh the down the list that that Mr. Uh Wiggins sent out there, Street Light program collaboration with Henry County for expressway exit and commercial corridors. [4:41:58, 4:42:05]: Yeah, I just think I don't think what we want to do is just have staff go to Henry County, get the information. [4:42:06, 4:42:09]: Uh as a collective group so we can have a consensus. [4:42:09, 4:42:10]: So we can [4:42:10, 4:42:14]: Put some street lights on highway one thirty eight so it's not black dark. [4:42:14, 4:42:16]: So we can have some lights, um [4:42:17, 4:42:21]: On uh Hudson Bridge and Eagles Landing Parkway, so it's not black, dark, Jodico. [4:42:22, 4:42:24]: And then the commercial areas uh in the city. [4:42:25, 4:42:31]: They already have some type of contract with Georgia Power, cause they put lights on Jonesboro Road. [4:42:31, 4:42:35]: They're beautiful. Citizens are crazy about it because it's too dark. [4:42:35, 4:42:38]: On our uh roadways and also um [4:42:39, 4:42:41]: You know, we have subdivisions. [4:42:41, 4:42:43]: uh as well which uh [4:42:43, 4:42:45]: You know, just like in my subdivision. [4:42:46, 4:42:50]: Uh, as we have here, these subdivision the requirement was really just [4:42:50, 4:42:51]: Um [4:42:51, 4:42:53]: Not enough in order to [4:42:53, 4:42:59]: have these subdivisions, uh have the appropriate amount of lighting as we move to look to move forward. [4:43:00, 4:43:01]: With increasing public safety. [4:43:01, 4:43:07]: Uh, we may need to go back and retrofit uh many of these subdivisions, not just mine, all of them. [4:43:07, 4:43:09]: Uh to increase lighting. [4:43:09, 4:43:12]: Uh in these areas because these lights are [4:43:12, 4:43:15]: two hundred feet apart and there they just really don't provide [4:43:16, 4:43:18]: Uh the cover that the the subdivisions and [4:43:19, 4:43:20]: the community needs, but [4:43:21, 4:43:24]: That's a part of what we need to do to test staff to. [4:43:24, 4:43:26]: Uh get this process moving so. [4:43:26, 4:43:34]: that we can we can light up this community and and and thieves don't feel like they can come here and hide under the cover of darkness. [4:43:35, 4:43:52]: So you're you're you're looking uh this is for so you don't have a cost factor about this uh at this point. Uh so your motion would be what exactly here? The motion is to charge staff with going to Henry County to work out a mutual agreement that we can [4:43:52, 4:44:04]: piggyback off of their agreement with Georgia Power to install street lights along major corridors, commercial corridors in the city and our expressway exits. [4:44:05, 4:44:06]: Okay. [4:44:06, 4:44:08]: Is there a second to the motion? [4:44:11, 4:44:13]: As I'm sorry, and as well as uh [4:44:13, 4:44:16]: uh working on uh retrofitting [4:44:16, 4:44:17]: uh subdivisions. [4:44:18, 4:44:21]: uh as well in the future to increase the amount of lighting that we have here. [4:44:23, 4:44:24]: Is there a dollar amount of sign? [4:44:25, 4:44:27]: He said he doesn't have one at this point. [4:44:27, 4:44:28]: Did I recall? [4:44:29, 4:44:32]: What do we have in the budget right now, Mr. Wiggins, for streetlighting? [4:44:34, 4:44:40]: And we what I would like to take is a uh recommend what what do we have in uh in there for street lighting right now? [4:44:42, 4:44:43]: We [4:44:43, 4:44:45]: We have uh let me see it's coming up. [4:44:51, 4:44:53]: Four hundred and thirty five thousand. [4:44:53, 4:44:54]: Please batch. [4:44:55, 4:44:58]: Okay, so four thirty five uh for the budget. [4:44:58, 4:45:15]: So I mean let me hear from the rest rest of the uh Ms. Let me hear from the rest of the council. Okay, one standby. Let me ask you 435, is that for what we pay for street lights right now? Is that what you're getting at? Or is that what we uh cause I'm I'm yeah, that that must be what for what we pay out. [4:45:15, 4:45:17]: On an annual basis, is that correct? [4:45:17, 4:45:22]: Yeah, that's the budget. That's the budget for the year coming up on what? [4:45:23, 4:45:26]: We budget for to pay all the street lights that we pay for. [4:45:26, 4:45:28]: Okay, I'm sorry. [4:45:28, 4:45:43]: Let's ask Mr. Aaron. He might have a number for us. Okay, so it has nothing to do with construction of new street lights or anything like that. So this is just actually the actual electricity that are utilized on the current street. Right. Right. The actual electricity that we pay for. [4:45:43, 4:45:48]: All right. Go ahead. I'm yeah, and I and I think Georgia Power really basically charges you for the electricity. They [4:45:49, 4:45:52]: work with you on the lighting. So Mr. Aaron might be able to tell us more about it. [4:45:53, 4:46:12]: Well,$435,000 is the number, but with Georgia Power, the city has their own lighting agreements. So if something is requested, you want additional lights and things of that nature, Georgia Power will prepare them for you. And they're typically done in a couple of ways. One way is you can pay an upfront cost. [4:46:13, 4:46:18]: Or you can not pay anything at all, but your monthly rate will be higher. [4:46:19, 4:46:21]: To sort of they cover their cost for [4:46:22, 4:46:24]: expending it and putting out the equipment. [4:46:25, 4:46:29]: So what would be your suggested dollar amount for us to put in the budget? [4:46:31, 4:46:35]: Well, you would it would be determined about how many lights you were talking about. [4:46:36, 4:46:40]: It is based on lights. So if you're talking about [4:46:40, 4:46:43]: Another two or three hundred lights. [4:46:43, 4:46:47]: Then you're probably talking about another hundred and fifty to two hundred thousand dollars. [4:46:49, 4:46:56]: Okay, so you're so you're saying it we're looking at about two hundred thousand dollars uh to put into the budget for these [4:46:56, 4:47:01]: But I wonder wow, that's not that's not daunting. So go ahead, Councilman Thomas. [4:47:01, 4:47:03]: I I want to add Mayor for [4:47:05, 4:47:06]: Oh yeah, quite, sir. [4:47:06, 4:47:07]: Okay, uh [4:47:08, 4:47:13]: I I want to ask going forward, you know, we we got the um [4:47:13, 4:47:17]: Bridges at Johtoco, we have the Eastern Lina Road Development. [4:47:17, 4:47:21]: Excuse me. So I I just want us to sort of just take a look at [4:47:22, 4:47:23]: Tentrally. [4:47:23, 4:47:28]: just in street lighting what what what is upcoming in the next couple of years. [4:47:29, 4:47:32]: So I just wanted to be a little mindful with that. [4:47:32, 4:47:33]: Um [4:47:35, 4:47:37]: Anyone having any comments on that? [4:47:38, 4:47:46]: I I I would it's gonna increase. I mean our uh revenues I mean excuse me our um amount we pay out is gonna increase anyway, but I I have no idea. [4:47:47, 4:47:58]: what the cost factor would be. So what I would recommend, uh Mayor Pro Tem, I know you you said the test staff to to get with Henry County. I would sort of just let let's do some research. [4:47:59, 4:48:01]: And and and come back because [4:48:01, 4:48:02]: Um [4:48:03, 4:48:06]: I think we got to look at the overall plan. [4:48:07, 4:48:09]: Especially for these for these developments. [4:48:10, 4:48:11]: Because I know um [4:48:12, 4:48:16]: Um Mr. Aaron, that was someone from my neighborhood called [4:48:16, 4:48:20]: Uh Mr. Aaron just the other day inquiring about street lights and so [4:48:21, 4:48:23]: Uh, we're hate for us to start a [4:48:23, 4:48:35]: you know, start looking at trying to give every subdivision, everybody a street light. But I do understand about getting off the uh the interstate. So why don't mayor pro ten, why don't we just have the staff to test? [4:48:36, 4:48:39]: uh with the county and and let's see what we come back with. [4:48:40, 4:48:46]: Well, I mean we we we uh we got if we do that, we're gonna have to have some money to actually pay for some of it. [4:48:46, 4:48:48]: 'Cause I know we want to do uh [4:48:48, 4:48:51]: You know, obviously we can't do all of it at one time, but I [4:48:52, 4:48:55]: Uh, what about putting a dollar on Mr. Aaron suggested that uh [4:48:56, 4:48:59]: We could do all of it for two hundred thousand dollars, but a portion of that [4:49:00, 4:49:03]: uh in the budget to do as uh the commercial [4:49:03, 4:49:08]: uh the expressway exits initially. So what would you think it would take to do that, Mr. [4:49:08, 4:49:11]: Well didn't he say it was uh already four hundred in? [4:49:12, 4:49:12]: Well that's [4:49:13, 4:49:24]: That four hundred thousand plus I think four thirty five, something like that is what we we we normally would pay for the existing uh lights. So that's that's on the expense side. Right. Yes, sir. Okay. [4:49:28, 4:49:28]: Well. [4:49:30, 4:49:44]: See, so if so that's all that's that's normal, that's commonplace right now. So if you want some additional more, you have to add something more to that or wait and and and get some type of um estimate from further research and then come back later. [4:49:44, 4:49:44]: One the other. [4:49:45, 4:49:53]: Well what about I'm saying doing it in phases? You are you okay with doing it in phases, councilman? Are we put some money some money in the budget now? [4:49:53, 4:50:00]: And and I'm thinking about annexation, even though we've been talking about annexing for years and years and years, I don't know when that's gonna. [4:50:00, 4:50:04]: Um, you know, come come in a come involved. [4:50:04, 4:50:05]: Um [4:50:07, 4:50:13]: Well, Mr. Aaron suggests that we could do the whole thing for two hundred thousand. We're at four what, you said four fifty? [4:50:15, 4:50:16]: Four thirty five. [4:50:17, 4:50:19]: Four thirty five. Uh [4:50:19, 4:50:32]: What if we bumped it up to just five right now? And then we're at five and that gives us an amount to do some of it. And then we'll we can come back and revisit it. But I don't want to put the whole thing in the budget. [4:50:32, 4:50:39]: It we were anticipating that we could put some of it in the budget now. I hate to put not to put anything in the budget right now. [4:50:41, 4:50:42]: Can I make a suggestion? [4:50:43, 4:50:44]: Yes, sir. Go ahead. [4:50:44, 4:50:56]: That we have our lighting representative with Georgia Power attend one of these meetings and she can give us a presentation on how they go about establishing the lighting and the cost to add additional lights. [4:50:58, 4:51:05]: So we'll have an idea and we can use it for budgetary purposes of how much would be needed to add additional lights. [4:51:06, 4:51:25]: I'm supportive of that, but in the end, we're still gonna need some money to pay for some lights. I'm okay. I wanna make sure let me get this straight. I wanna do the research. I wanna have the people come in, talk to us. I want you to talk to Georgia Power, but we're doing the budget now. We gotta have some anticipation funds. [4:51:25, 4:51:33]: in there to help pay for this. You your your initial estimate is 200,000. I'm not suggesting we do all of that, but to have some money in there. [4:51:34, 4:51:37]: Well uh go ahead, sir. [4:51:37, 4:51:43]: Mayor, uh Mayor Pro Temps, this this is this is what I'm sort of looking at, and I really didn't want to get into this. [4:51:43, 4:51:46]: Uh there are some other expenses that [4:51:47, 4:51:50]: Um, I really want to talk about I'm not going to talk about them tonight. [4:51:50, 4:51:53]: Um, but you know, there are some other things. [4:51:54, 4:52:00]: uh that we need to consider and I have to have a conversation with you and the council as well, but [4:52:00, 4:52:07]: There are some other things. Uh I've I'm I'm okay with the things that we have approved tonight for this budget. [4:52:07, 4:52:11]: Um there are some other cost factors that's [4:52:11, 4:52:17]: We've have discussed them already, but I don't think we're mindful of those things that's that's coming up. [4:52:18, 4:52:19]: And if you recall [4:52:19, 4:52:22]: The last executive session that we had. [4:52:22, 4:52:23]: Um [4:52:23, 4:52:25]: Some things came to our attention. [4:52:26, 4:52:27]: Let's be mindful. [4:52:28, 4:52:30]: Of of where we gotta go. [4:52:30, 4:52:31]: Um [4:52:31, 4:52:40]: So I would suggest Mayor Pro Tem, and we can talk about this later, cause we can always come back to budget amendments, but let's just test staff to do the research. [4:52:40, 4:52:43]: And um but I just want to remind council that [4:52:44, 4:52:49]: Just go back to the last executive session. Some things came to us. So um [4:52:51, 4:52:53]: Let me just let me just stop it there. [4:52:55, 4:52:55]: All right. [4:52:56, 4:52:59]: So anyway, uh any more discussion on this issue. [4:53:00, 4:53:01]: Yes, ma Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [4:53:05, 4:53:13]: Okay, yeah, so um Lakeside. Residents of Lakeside are in the process of reference to Ms. Mayor Pro Tem. [4:53:14, 4:53:15]: This is a reference. [4:53:17, 4:53:21]: Miss Barber, what you talking about? Is that in reference to Mareportam and the lights that you you that he's talking about? [4:53:23, 4:53:23]: Yes. [4:53:23, 4:53:26]: Okay. All right. Go ahead. I'm sorry. Go ahead. [4:53:27, 4:53:40]: The residents of Lakeside have already started circulating a petition for additional item um lighting. It's my understanding, those residents came before the council prior to me. [4:53:40, 4:53:42]: um requesting. [4:53:42, 4:53:45]: additional lighting in the subdivision. [4:53:45, 4:53:47]: I am a resident of Lakeside. [4:53:47, 4:53:49]: It is inadequate lighting. [4:53:49, 4:53:50]: Mr. Aaron. [4:53:50, 4:53:52]: And Mr. Knight and Bowls. [4:53:52, 4:53:55]: Came to the subdivision last year. [4:53:55, 4:53:58]: And he may have made a second visit here this year. [4:53:59, 4:54:02]: The lights that are currently here are very dim. [4:54:02, 4:54:04]: So this proposal from [4:54:04, 4:54:11]: um mayor pro tem alexander to implement a um a lighting program that will roll out [4:54:12, 4:54:14]: It is exactly what we need here. [4:54:15, 4:54:23]: There are safety concerns here. So absolutely. I anticipate the petition from the residents here are going to come forward to the council. [4:54:24, 4:54:27]: for review and approval. So we want to make sure that we do have [4:54:27, 4:54:28]: Money in a budget. [4:54:29, 4:54:31]: that will cover. [4:54:31, 4:54:34]: the additional lighting that are needed here. [4:54:34, 4:54:35]: Um [4:54:35, 4:54:38]: Some information from Mr. Aaron was sent to me. [4:54:39, 4:54:45]: um earlier this afternoon in regards to that lighting and I forward it to Mr. Wiggins. [4:54:45, 4:54:47]: I don't know what the cost is gonna be. [4:54:47, 4:54:47]: Um [4:54:48, 4:54:49]: No idea. [4:54:50, 4:54:50]: So [4:54:51, 4:54:54]: We definitely need to add additional funds. [4:54:55, 4:54:59]: to the street lights budget. I just don't know how much. [4:54:59, 4:55:01]: Mr Aaron [4:55:02, 4:55:04]: Can you give a suggested amount? [4:55:05, 4:55:13]: based on what you saw here in lakeside for us. So we can consider adding it to this budget for next year. [4:55:16, 4:55:25]: feel it depends on what is wanted to be what wants to be done, what mayor and council want to do as far as lighting. [4:55:25, 4:55:38]: Because it's it depends on the style of lighting. The lights on the interstate would be a higher cost than the subdivision lights. So we'd have to look at what areas you're talking about adding lights to. [4:55:39, 4:55:41]: Because that determines your cost. [4:55:42, 4:55:48]: Okay, well I was speaking specifically about Lakeside since you made a couple of visits here. Are you able to share? [4:55:49, 4:55:50]: A little bit [4:55:50, 4:55:55]: The only thing is they're not specific. The bills are not [4:55:56, 4:55:59]: Identify per subdivision or per location. [4:55:59, 4:56:07]: So that would be a trade-off. You're going from a lower watt above, I think those are seventy-four watt LEDs up to a hundred and [4:56:08, 4:56:20]: 76 watt LED. So there'll be a difference in cost. I know the annual cost for those 16 would be a little over 11,000. I don't know what the current amount is for the 16. [4:56:21, 4:56:38]: seven to four watt light fixtures that are in your subdivision, we'd have to find a way to to break that out and get the cost to see what the difference. It might be a 25% increase or 35% increase, but we'd have to get that information from Georgia Power, what they bill us for the Lakeside subdivision. [4:56:39, 4:56:44]: Okay, so we definitely need to add additional funding to our 2022 budget. [4:56:45, 4:56:51]: um for the replacement of the lights here in lakeside. I don't know how much additional that's going to be. [4:56:52, 4:56:52]: Um [4:56:53, 4:56:53]: Can [4:56:55, 4:56:58]: Can you give an estimate, Mr. Aaron? [4:56:58, 4:57:06]: I would say just add a hundred thousand dollars that'll get us started this year and hundred thousand dollars that would just cover lakeside. [4:57:06, 4:57:15]: No, to get us to get it get us started. That would be a good start for us. Some additional light, and then we have George Power come and give a presentation. [4:57:15, 4:57:17]: about how we go about implementing [4:57:17, 4:57:20]: It in a most cost effective manner. [4:57:20, 4:57:22]: to increase the lighting. [4:57:25, 4:57:27]: Starting. Okay. [4:57:27, 4:57:28]: Okay. [4:57:28, 4:57:28]: Oh bad. [4:57:29, 4:57:31]: Mr. Thomas Gray, please. Give us an amount. [4:57:32, 4:57:37]: Council, uh I I'm you know, I'm I'm I'm pretty straight on on on you know what I vote for and [4:57:38, 4:57:40]: You know, uh again. [4:57:40, 4:57:45]: Um we have a special call meeting coming up on Wednesday. Let me just throw that out there. [4:57:47, 4:57:51]: Trust me, my can you know, there are some things that's looming. [4:57:52, 4:57:53]: Um [4:57:53, 4:57:59]: I'm not prepared tonight to vote. I would be in favor of the research, but I I would not vote on this tonight. [4:58:01, 4:58:01]: Okay. [4:58:02, 4:58:02]: All right. [4:58:03, 4:58:07]: Yeah, Mr. Black's quick one. I I'll tell you what, I'm gonna go ahead and make a motion. [4:58:07, 4:58:10]: And uh I'm gonna make the motion to [4:58:10, 4:58:15]: Uh bring this back uh within the next thirty days with the research being done. [4:58:16, 4:58:23]: And at that point, we'll have doc we'll have d numbers or dollars in front of us to be able to make an appropriate decision. [4:58:24, 4:58:38]: to give the citizens the street lighting that they have been demanding. So let's say in 30 days we do the research and then have them come back to us. And at that point the council will be have to be prepared to make a decision in the next 30 days. [4:58:39, 4:58:41]: Okay, yeah, yeah. [4:58:42, 4:58:58]: On that note that our thirty days roughly is our next counts a council meeting which will be January tenth, which is actually the meeting, uh ceremonial type of meeting is what it amounts to primarily. But uh but that's what you're referring to when you say thirty days, that's what it kind of works out to be. [4:58:59, 4:58:59]: Right. [4:59:01, 4:59:10]: I'm sorry, Mr. Thomas Hughes will stand by please. Mr. Thomas, you were saying something earlier. Um on on that particular date. [4:59:10, 4:59:11]: All right. [4:59:11, 4:59:12]: Mr. Blount. [4:59:13, 4:59:15]: Yeah, mayor, thank you. Um [4:59:17, 4:59:25]: When we talk about concerns of communities, we have different subdivisions have different concerns, whether it be lighting, whether it be safety, uh [4:59:25, 4:59:29]: Um Mr. Alexander community said they won't speak bumps. [4:59:29, 4:59:36]: Um we can't not allow public works to not do their assessment in these communities. [4:59:37, 4:59:41]: But yet we could still go into the communities that are that are um [4:59:43, 4:59:46]: that are in the majority of this council. [4:59:46, 4:59:48]: Whether it be lighting, speed bumps, or whatever it is. [4:59:49, 4:59:52]: We have concerns throughout this throughout this community. [4:59:52, 4:59:56]: I think Mr. Thomas for wanting to table it to get numbers. [4:59:57, 5:00:03]: Uh but we have to be careful and cautious because there are several needs in several communities. [5:00:04, 5:00:08]: And when we can sit here and say because we'll have the votes to get it. [5:00:08, 5:00:13]: that let's get what we can get for our community. There's they're niece and wind song right now. [5:00:13, 5:00:18]: Just like their knees in Winslow, just like their knees in Lakeside, just like their knees in Monarch Village. [5:00:20, 5:00:22]: They're needs throughout the communities right here. [5:00:23, 5:00:31]: And we need the public works or somebody to go assess those needs, just like when we just did the the the L Meg with the roads. I asked them to include the uh sidewalks. [5:00:32, 5:00:42]: include the sidewalks because there's some communities, even in my community, where sidewalk repairs are needed because you may have uh uh uh wheelchair accessible areas. [5:00:42, 5:00:45]: People, you know, there are needs throughout these communities. [5:00:46, 5:00:59]: And I understand when we have council members live in certain communities, but we have to we have to focus that when we start to budget money for certain communities, instead of getting an overall analysis from public works, but doing it just because we can. [5:00:59, 5:01:04]: That's not fair to the citizens or all the taxpayers in the city limits the stop bridge. [5:01:04, 5:01:10]: Let's do an assessment across the board and let's see which one is pri let's see which one's a priority. [5:01:10, 5:01:14]: Let's see what's a priority because aesthetics are not a priority. [5:01:16, 5:01:17]: Well thank you. [5:01:18, 5:01:18]: Yeah. [5:01:18, 5:01:22]: Mm stand by please. Miss Barber. So hold your thought. Miss Barber, please. [5:01:22, 5:01:23]: Okay. [5:01:23, 5:01:27]: Thank you, Mayor. Um so the residents of Lakeside actually [5:01:28, 5:01:29]: came to this council. [5:01:29, 5:01:31]: A few years ago. [5:01:32, 5:01:37]: You all didn't move forward on whatever their request was in regards to lighting. [5:01:39, 5:01:40]: I live here now. [5:01:40, 5:01:44]: I can see that there's an issue, inadequate lighting here. [5:01:45, 5:01:46]: They begin the petition. [5:01:49, 5:01:50]: Circulation. [5:01:50, 5:01:52]: That was last year. [5:01:53, 5:01:55]: Here we are in twenty twenty one. [5:01:56, 5:01:57]: The end of twenty twenty one. [5:01:58, 5:02:00]: Mr. Lighton and Mr. Aaron both. [5:02:00, 5:02:02]: Have come to this subdivision. [5:02:02, 5:02:04]: And evaluate it. [5:02:04, 5:02:05]: The subdivision. [5:02:05, 5:02:06]: Nothing has happened. [5:02:08, 5:02:08]: When [5:02:08, 5:02:09]: Presidents. [5:02:10, 5:02:15]: Bring forward their petitions in which they are almost complete. [5:02:15, 5:02:18]: Від гадринг the necessary signatures. [5:02:19, 5:02:22]: I expect this council will do the right thing, considering [5:02:23, 5:02:23]: There are. [5:02:25, 5:02:28]: Issues with in inadequate lighting. [5:02:29, 5:02:30]: Obviously. [5:02:31, 5:02:34]: your building standards or the developments. [5:02:34, 5:02:37]: for these subdivisions were subpar. [5:02:38, 5:02:39]: There are no light. [5:02:39, 5:02:41]: in the parking lot. [5:02:42, 5:02:43]: Of the swimming pool. [5:02:45, 5:02:50]: All of the lights that are in the subdivision are decorative lights. [5:02:50, 5:02:52]: So of course they're damned. [5:02:52, 5:02:55]: I hope that you all were will consider safety. [5:02:56, 5:02:57]: of the residents that live here. [5:02:58, 5:03:01]: Including myself. If I need to abstain from voting on this. [5:03:02, 5:03:03]: It is a major issue. [5:03:05, 5:03:08]: I want to make sure in this budget there is money. [5:03:09, 5:03:10]: That will [5:03:10, 5:03:13]: Cover the expenses of increased lighting. [5:03:14, 5:03:20]: In this subdivision and any other subdivision that has been approved by this council to be developed. [5:03:20, 5:03:22]: with inadequate lighting. [5:03:23, 5:03:24]: It is a safety concern. [5:03:24, 5:03:25]: That's all. [5:03:26, 5:03:26]: Yeah. [5:03:27, 5:03:28]: Yeah, go right, sir. [5:03:28, 5:03:31]: Uh absolutely, Councilwoman Barber, I agree with you. [5:03:31, 5:03:51]: And uh I think we have a general consensus now that uh we're gonna get uh this done within 30 days, we're gonna have Georgia Power come out. We're gonna have the numbers in front of us. And if there's any safety concern and those residents, especially if somebody has a petition, that means that they have signatures and they have buy-in. [5:03:51, 5:03:53]: I think that particular [5:03:53, 5:03:57]: uh issue n would certainly need to be dealt with because you have documentation. [5:03:58, 5:04:00]: On it, where some of these are [5:04:00, 5:04:03]: Our opinions and we have documentation on there. [5:04:03, 5:04:05]: We'll certainly do that. And I think [5:04:06, 5:04:15]: Once we have Georgia Power talk to uh our representatives and we get everybody in the room, I think we all agree that we're going to. [5:04:15, 5:04:21]: uh put the money uh in the budget. We're just gonna delay it for 30 days until we have the facts and figures in front of us. [5:04:21, 5:04:26]: No, so Georgia Power has been out here. I don't know why Mr. Aaron is not speaking up. [5:04:27, 5:04:29]: They've been out here and assessed this. [5:04:29, 5:04:32]: All of this has been just drug on and just stalling. [5:04:33, 5:04:34]: I want to make sure. [5:04:34, 5:04:37]: before we approved this twenty twenty two budget. [5:04:38, 5:04:40]: that there is money allocated. [5:04:40, 5:04:44]: for lighting in this subdivision and stop stalling. [5:04:44, 5:04:48]: That's all. Mr. Aaron, can you share with the council? [5:04:48, 5:04:53]: what you know from the Georgia Power and their assessment of the subdivision. [5:04:54, 5:05:09]: Uh I submitted that information to you and I had previously told Mr. Knighton that Georgia Power, when I met with the rips, there are three different grades of lights that they use. The standard is the 74-watt light bulb. [5:05:09, 5:05:13]: Those were were installed in the majority of the subdivisions. [5:05:13, 5:05:29]: And the proposal they came back with offered two bubs that were higher watts so that they could be exchanged out if that's that's what was wanted in the subdivision. And Ms. Jennifer Williams, who is our lighting rep with George Power, recommended those. [5:05:29, 5:05:33]: Two higher grade waters bulbs to be re [5:05:33, 5:05:41]: Placed in the lakeside subdivision. And my recommendation is that we go with changing the bulbs out first. [5:05:42, 5:06:02]: To see if we don't have to add any additional lights or poles in there. There are two brands. One is the decorative brand, it's 96 watts that you currently have. And the other one is just a regular overhead light like we have on the streets that's not encumbered or covered up by the decorative poles. [5:06:02, 5:06:08]: So you have more lights emitting from that structure. And I think if we tried, we started with. [5:06:09, 5:06:10]: The uh [5:06:11, 5:06:23]: Mr. Aaron, all due respect, every subdivision in the city was supposed to have LED lights. I'm disappointed to hear that Lakeside don't. No, we shouldn't even be starting there. They should already have them. [5:06:23, 5:06:43]: All of them have LED lights, it's just the wattage of the bulbs. The traditional bubs that Georgia Power installed is 76, 74 watts, the LED bulb. That's standard, what they'll install. And now they also have a model that's one is 160. [5:06:43, 5:07:03]: And one is 96 watts. So you could go up to a higher watts bug that illuminates more area than what you currently have. And also a lot of the subdivisions, they wanted the decorative lights that are enclosed. So that prevents light from radiating out. So you [5:07:03, 5:07:10]: you don't give a big as much of a lighting area as you do with the traditional lights that are not covered. [5:07:10, 5:07:30]: And so when I spoke with councilwoman Barber, I told her I would recommend we try the 161 watt light bulbs. You change out those 16 fixtures in our neighborhood to 161 watts from 74 watts and see what the results are. If you get the illumination they desire. [5:07:31, 5:07:40]: then that resolves that issue. If not, then we look at adding additional lights in there. But that was the quicker and simpler way to address this issue so that [5:07:41, 5:07:43]: we'll be able to address it that way. [5:07:44, 5:07:50]: Okay, so with all due respect, I brought this issue to uh Mr. Knighton and Mr. Aaron in twenty twenty. [5:07:51, 5:07:52]: Um [5:07:53, 5:07:57]: They had Georgia Power to come out. If you can share with the council what [5:07:57, 5:07:59]: Georgia Power said then. [5:07:59, 5:08:02]: I know that with the information you just shared. [5:08:02, 5:08:03]: Now [5:08:03, 5:08:04]: Is information that you [5:08:05, 5:08:06]: Email to me. [5:08:06, 5:08:07]: Earlier today. [5:08:07, 5:08:11]: So that's the latest information. If you'll share with them. [5:08:11, 5:08:12]: What transpired? [5:08:12, 5:08:14]: Probably very beginning. I'd appreciate it. [5:08:15, 5:08:22]: Previously, our representative Ezekiel Roberts worked with Georgia Powell. He's no longer with Georgia Powell. He did an assessment. [5:08:22, 5:08:42]: Of the Lakeside Subdivision has said that the lighting was inadequate because of the wattage of bubbles they had used. So in between him transitioning and leaving, there was a void in our service member for about four to five months. And Ms. William has come on board. She's a new rep lighting representative. [5:08:42, 5:08:43]: For the city of [5:08:44, 5:08:57]: Bridge. And so I reminded her of this assessment Mr. Roberts had done. So she had been following up on that. So that's where we are today with the assessment she sent over today and the recommendations. [5:09:00, 5:09:01]: Okay. [5:09:01, 5:09:02]: Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [5:09:03, 5:09:14]: Uh thank you, Mr. Dacious. Uh let me just make something clear. It's about procedurally doing things, whether it's for any community, just doing it the right way. [5:09:14, 5:09:17]: Uh Mr. Alexander community submitted uh [5:09:17, 5:09:27]: uh petition and if lakeside has a petition and we talk about the situation that they need lighter uh more um heavier waters of light bugs [5:09:27, 5:09:29]: I have no problem with that. [5:09:29, 5:09:34]: I have no problem when things are done procedurally done right and done in the in the correct way. [5:09:35, 5:09:38]: But when we sit here and and continually to make [5:09:40, 5:09:43]: uh amounts of monies without any justification. [5:09:43, 5:09:46]: Then as a for me, I can't do that. [5:09:47, 5:09:53]: But when things are procedurally done the way they're supposed to be done, let's light up every community in Stockbridge we can light up. [5:09:54, 5:10:02]: Let's take care of every need that we can take care of as long as the process is not bordered by political intervention. That's all I'm saying. [5:10:05, 5:10:13]: Call for the call for the vote. Yeah, I was gonna do that. Motion's been made and it's been seconded. So uh we have plenty of discussion. So all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [5:10:14, 5:10:16]: Yeah, we'd be reading. [5:10:16, 5:10:20]: Don't you read the motion again? Okay, okay, stand by please. Uh the Miss Holiday. [5:10:22, 5:10:23]: Ms. Holiday, please. [5:10:25, 5:10:40]: minute to undo. Okay. Could you read the motion? Make sure we understand what the motion is. If I'm following this correctly, this is to do the research and have the information brought back to the council within the next thirty days regarding lighting for the city. [5:10:41, 5:10:42]: That's correct. [5:10:43, 5:10:51]: Okay, so that's that's the motion. Once again, um motion's been made and seconded. So all in favor of motion, please indicate. [5:10:51, 5:10:51]: Uh. [5:10:53, 5:11:01]: Okay. And uh I got four votes of I did not see I oppose because [5:11:01, 5:11:04]: Um we need to include in the budget. [5:11:04, 5:11:07]: Um for Lakeside, who's going to bring [5:11:08, 5:11:13]: those positions to the council in twenty twenty two and I don't want to wait until [5:11:14, 5:11:15]: We approve this budget. [5:11:16, 5:11:16]: And then [5:11:17, 5:11:18]: Having to approve. [5:11:19, 5:11:20]: The petition. [5:11:20, 5:11:21]: And not account for. [5:11:22, 5:11:26]: how much this is gonna cost if we're able to get staff to bring us back. [5:11:26, 5:11:34]: the information as it pertains to cost, we need to do it within the next two weeks before we approve this budget. [5:11:34, 5:11:36]: Not three days. That's all. [5:11:37, 5:11:43]: The motion passed four to one. Okay. Yes. Mr. Mayor, can I add a comment? Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. [5:11:43, 5:11:56]: We have two lighting agreements from Georgia Power for the Lakesap subdivision to exchange light bulbs. One is going to uh ninety-six watt and the other one is going to a hundred and [5:11:56, 5:12:00]: I think let me look a hundred and [5:12:01, 5:12:03]: Sixty one watts. [5:12:03, 5:12:04]: Uh [5:12:05, 5:12:08]: Could we move forward with one of these options? [5:12:09, 5:12:15]: so that we could start a process to remedy that lighting issue in that neighborhood. [5:12:15, 5:12:20]: Yes, please. I make a motion that we move forward as proposed by [5:12:20, 5:12:21]: Um Mr. Aaron. [5:12:22, 5:12:27]: So Mr. Aaron, you already have this in your budget already, is what you're saying. You just need to spend the money. [5:12:27, 5:12:28]: Yes, sir. [5:12:29, 5:12:30]: Oh well. [5:12:31, 5:12:35]: We are addressing this issue step by step. The first step is to go from a [5:12:36, 5:12:43]: uh 74 white bulb to uh 161 watt bulb they'll change out 16 light fixtures in there [5:12:43, 5:12:49]: And that'll be the first step in addressing this issue of the low lighting in the neighborhood. [5:12:50, 5:12:59]: Well, that's I mean, in essence, that's part of the research because if that works out, then we might not have to spend any more money. So that's part of the 30 day research. [5:12:59, 5:13:00]: So [5:13:00, 5:13:07]: Uh I'm I'm okay with them moving forward with at least testing out the light bulbs so second, so we can move forward. [5:13:07, 5:13:16]: Mm. Mr. Aaron, I don't think you don't need anything from the council to move forward with what you guys are already investigating as far as the lights, right? You're not changing the picture, you're just changing the water to the buffs, right? [5:13:17, 5:13:29]: We're we're changing fixtures as well. There is no upfront cost. It'd just be like a 25% increase in what they're currently paying, what we're currently paying for that subdivision with the higher wattage bulbs. [5:13:30, 5:13:36]: You said increase? Yes, so because you use a higher wattage bulb in the neighborhood. [5:13:37, 5:13:46]: Yes, uh Vanessa's uh Mr. Aaron, are you referring to the twenty twenty-one budget where you'll use these funds or twenty twenty two? [5:13:46, 5:13:58]: Twenty twenty one. Well they probably twenty twenty one before twenty twenty two before they officially get installed, but I just want council's approval so that we can contact Georgia Power and tell him we're moving forward with [5:13:59, 5:14:03]: trying to hire waters bugs to see if that resolves the issue in Lakeside. [5:14:03, 5:14:05]: Okay. [5:14:06, 5:14:19]: Mm, Ms. Gary, can I ask uh ask one more quick question? Go ahead, Mr. So are you looking to put the highest widest one in or the one before the higher wide? Because you know, we don't want you to have to come back. Which one do you think you're gonna need? [5:14:20, 5:14:36]: Uh based on the concerns we receive from the neighborhood, I think it'll be best to go with the higher wattage bubs. As much as 161, is that correct? Yes, sir. Okay. Let's do that. That's good. Okay, motion has been made in and motion been made in the second. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [5:14:39, 5:14:43]: Three oh Miss Barber, I didn't hear your voice or Miss Gantt. [5:14:44, 5:14:45]: I made the motion, yes. [5:14:46, 5:14:49]: Okay, what's one okay, miss scan miscant? [5:14:50, 5:15:01]: Ms. Cant did not vote on the case. I I I'm sorry, it wouldn't let me do it. I unanimous decision. All right. Thank you. All right. Good deal. Uh okay. [5:15:01, 5:15:08]: uh direct uh all surpluses in the yearly budget to the capital improvement projects budget, not fund balance. [5:15:09, 5:15:11]: Yes, sir. [5:15:11, 5:15:14]: This is something that we've been talked about in [5:15:15, 5:15:18]: Uh staff had made this recommended and we just never moved forward on it. [5:15:19, 5:15:31]: as we have projects coming forward, it's always a political dynamite to take the money out of fund balance. If the money is directed, we know we got the Cultural Arts Center coming up. [5:15:31, 5:15:33]: We know we have other [5:15:33, 5:15:35]: Uh city projects coming up. [5:15:35, 5:15:38]: If the money is put in the capital improvement fund. [5:15:38, 5:15:49]: then we know that this money was dedicated to uh city projects. Instead of dumping the money in fund balance, now we have 17 million dollars. [5:15:49, 5:15:52]: uh in fund balance are close to seventeen million dollars. [5:15:52, 5:16:12]: Honestly, we know that$17 million is not what we should have there. We say this in 2016 and 2017. Oh, we're putting the money in fund balance. Well, we can take it out later. But every time we take the money out of fund balance, there's always political dynamic. Oh, you're you're depleting our reserve, but that's why we put the [5:16:12, 5:16:29]: money in there. So let's put this some funds aside to go into the capital improvements budget versus going into uh the fund balance because we know we got city projects that we're gonna need uh to to uh [5:16:29, 5:16:30]: to invest in. [5:16:32, 5:16:37]: All right, uh comments and discussion on this um council. [5:16:39, 5:16:40]: Thought process. [5:16:40, 5:16:41]: Go ahead, Mr. Blount. [5:16:44, 5:16:49]: Mayor, I'm I'm in favor with the capital improvement budget, but we we talked about [5:16:49, 5:17:03]: uh funds that was that the additional funds and other funding that was coming in, instead of loading up our fund balance and increasing it, we talked to those that's when we initially talked about a capital improvement budget. And we also talked about [5:17:03, 5:17:23]: uh under under Mr. Knight and uh a contingency fund uh also uh because we had different stuff that happened in different uh maybe at the Merrill manager or something like that we didn't have we talked about budgets that we didn't have to go and refer back to uh fund balance so as far as exploring the capital improvement budget and how we [5:17:23, 5:17:43]: Would um um start a capital improvement budget and build that up versus continue to move move toward depleting saying fund balance. I agree with that. Uh and having a uh contingency budget like we had already discussed. In fact, I think we did have a contingency budget uh last year. Is that right, Mr. Wiggins? [5:17:44, 5:17:47]: I think it was like two hundred thousand dollars that we had a contingency budget. [5:17:47, 5:18:07]: It w it it was a hundred thousand and it was in the uh executive uh uh budget. Right, exactly. Yeah, yeah, that that that the uh Mr. Knight and uh city manager uh in reps could could approve amounts that wouldn't come out of fund balance for that. And I know we had discussed two hundred thousand dollars in the uh contingency budget, but I'm for moving. [5:18:07, 5:18:16]: Moving forward with getting uh capital improvement budget and a contingency budget. So we won't have to continue to uh move on the uh [5:18:16, 5:18:23]: Fund balance, uh every time we're gonna uh make moves for uh funding for different uh reasons. [5:18:23, 5:18:25]: Uh Mayor? Yes, sir. [5:18:25, 5:18:30]: So do we have it do we have the uh contingency fund in the twenty twenty two budget, Mr. [5:18:30, 5:18:31]: Wagens. [5:18:32, 5:18:33]: Yes, it's at a hundred thousand. [5:18:33, 5:18:39]: Okay, so it's in the twenty twenty two budget too. Okay, so I'll make a motion to move forward with directing [5:18:39, 5:18:42]: Uh merger surpluses to the capital improvements. [5:18:43, 5:18:45]: And we've already continued the [5:18:45, 5:18:47]: The contingency fund, that's the motion. [5:18:48, 5:18:49]: Is there a second? [5:18:51, 5:18:52]: Is there a second on a motion? [5:18:58, 5:19:00]: Still second on a motion at this point. [5:19:01, 5:19:02]: Okay. [5:19:03, 5:19:04]: All right. [5:19:05, 5:19:06]: We'll move on. [5:19:07, 5:19:15]: Uh work with Henry County on cutting and beautifying our expressway ramps and exits. [5:19:16, 5:19:30]: Let me see here. That's uh that's uh it's kind of close, it's kind of closely connected to uh the lighting for press expressway exits as well. I guess in a CID aspect as well on that. So discussion on that? [5:19:32, 5:19:40]: Uh I think in that instance we just wanna test staff with going to Henry County and making sure that we work out some type of uh [5:19:41, 5:19:46]: in a governmental agreement or some type of framework for an agreement. So [5:19:46, 5:20:05]: that uh when folks get off the expressway exit that they're maintained uh and that they're cut uh and that they're uh presentable and beautified. So I think uh there's no budgetary amount associated with that because uh honestly those um the expressway exits themselves are in [5:20:06, 5:20:13]: Uh the egg the ramps themselves are unincorporated and some of the the roadways are inside the city. [5:20:14, 5:20:27]: All right. So really that's it's no budgetary mark uh amount, but just the fact that the staff needs to coordinate this with the county along the lines with coordinate with the county about the uh lights about the spress expressway exits as well, I'm supposing. [5:20:28, 5:20:32]: Well this is about the uh the cutting right in [5:20:32, 5:20:36]: Right. The beautifying. This is not about the light. This is about the cutting. [5:20:36, 5:20:53]: Okay. And beautifying of those exits. Just making sure that we have the task staff understand that this is a priority for council and that uh we want to make sure that uh that Henry County gets this uh done and along uh um in coordination with us. [5:20:53, 5:21:12]: But you don't have any five uh funding amount for this unless you uh right now, the point. It's not like it's five thousand. No, this because again the the expressway exits aren't in there. If they come back to us with a dollar amount, then we can do a budget amendment for it. But I wanna to make sure that the council is on board with [5:21:12, 5:21:13]: Uh this [5:21:13, 5:21:16]: to make sure that uh we're getting this done. [5:21:18, 5:21:31]: All right, so did you have some type of motion that you want to put on this for the 2022? Well, I'd like to hear from the rest of the council members before I did that because uh to see what they think and not necessarily uh independent of of what I think. [5:21:32, 5:21:34]: All right. Any comments, Council? [5:21:39, 5:21:40]: Any comments at all? [5:21:41, 5:21:43]: Uh Mayor Ford and Council. Um [5:21:46, 5:21:48]: I'm sort of satisfied. [5:21:49, 5:21:50]: with the accomplishment [5:21:51, 5:21:51]: Um [5:21:51, 5:21:56]: I I'm sort of feeling like, you know, we need to move some of these things. Um [5:21:57, 5:21:59]: At at the next meeting. [5:22:00, 5:22:05]: Um the thing that's pressing on my mind, I really can't talk about them right now, but [5:22:05, 5:22:06]: Um [5:22:07, 5:22:12]: There are some some issues that I'm concerned about. I I think we've done a pretty good job tonight. [5:22:13, 5:22:15]: Uh we can always come back and do budget amendments. [5:22:16, 5:22:23]: So and I don't know what else, you know, any other council member may have. I know um councilwoman Gantt. [5:22:23, 5:22:26]: And and Blount have not made any um [5:22:27, 5:22:29]: you know, recommendations or what have you. [5:22:29, 5:22:30]: Um [5:22:30, 5:22:36]: But we can come back and make some other budget amendment. I I I know the chief wants to speak. [5:22:37, 5:22:39]: There's a couple more items. [5:22:39, 5:22:40]: Um [5:22:40, 5:22:45]: You know, these marathon meetings, um, you know, it's getting a little old. [5:22:46, 5:22:49]: Um, I think we've done a pretty good job with the budget. [5:22:49, 5:22:53]: I I think we sort of made some statements in going forward. [5:22:53, 5:22:54]: Um [5:22:56, 5:23:02]: You know, even with the capital improvement, you know, see we can always come back. This is not [5:23:02, 5:23:10]: uh die all tonight. Um so my my suggestion would be let's sort of just regroup. I think we've done enough. [5:23:10, 5:23:12]: Uh I think we need to sort of [5:23:13, 5:23:15]: uh analyze where we are. [5:23:15, 5:23:17]: uh it started to go forward. Um [5:23:18, 5:23:21]: You know, yes, yes, you know, capital improvements are important. [5:23:22, 5:23:23]: Um [5:23:23, 5:23:25]: But you know, we do have a meeting on the twenty first. [5:23:26, 5:23:30]: And so we can always uh, you know, we can always come back and do this. [5:23:31, 5:23:40]: Yes, sir. Go ahead. Okay. Well, that's what my frame of mind was. I'm sorry. I thought tonight was the night where we were going to uh [5:23:40, 5:23:42]: 'Cause I that's that's been the protocol. [5:23:42, 5:23:49]: Going forward, we uh we approved the budget at the first meeting in December. So I thought that's what we were working toward. [5:23:50, 5:23:52]: That well, that's typically what's supposed to happen. [5:23:52, 5:23:56]: Right. So I I I didn't know that we were gonna delay it to the end of time. [5:23:57, 5:23:59]: Do it. [5:24:00, 5:24:04]: night. Yeah and we have until the 31st to to ratify the budget. [5:24:04, 5:24:05]: Okay. All right. [5:24:06, 5:24:22]: Well that but now now the question is see this was a public hearing. Not that I and I and there's certain motions of things I need to go through, but uh don't know if I'll get any response here from the public because we've been at this for quite some time. So on that note, I will open up the public hearing. [5:24:22, 5:24:30]: So I'm gonna need the PIO and uh Venet Miss Holiday to find out whether or not there's anybody online that would have any [5:24:30, 5:24:36]: Mayor Ford, uh this is the third reading. Have have we had any comments from any citizen? [5:24:37, 5:24:41]: Well, no, but I'm I'm going through the motion, sir. I'm going through the motion. I understand. I understand. [5:24:42, 5:25:02]: I'm going through the motion. So uh so what it is is that uh wanna know if there's anybody online that you ladies may know of that are or comments uh for the budget the way it stands now and and the conversations that we've had. Anybody for the budget that you can see on anything from on Facebook Live or anything that somebody's waiting in a waiting room there, anything like that at all? [5:25:02, 5:25:14]: all this for. Mayor for this is Shana Thornton, PIO from Facebook. There are multiple comments um dealing with different discussions tonight, but at this time it doesn't seem anything obvious for me dealing with the hearing. [5:25:16, 5:25:17]: Okay. [5:25:18, 5:25:24]: And Vanessa, do you have do you have any comments at all one way or the other that you see or know or know of the someone in the waiting room at all? [5:25:24, 5:25:27]: There's no one in the waiting room, but there are [5:25:27, 5:25:31]: Anonymous comments made in the chat. [5:25:33, 5:25:50]: Okay. Um one of the questions is where is all this funny coming from? We should not acknowledge anonymous comments. Okay. Somebody should have to speak up to give your name and address. You do have to do your name. You're correct. Um Mr. Bruce Smith says this Georgia lighting should be voted down. [5:25:52, 5:25:55]: Okay. Um let me go down, continue. [5:25:57, 5:26:17]: That is the only comment with a name, Mayor. Okay. All right. So there's so no comments for. So and then so I need something to ask, are there any comments in the in uh uh against? And you just gave me a one comment of Vanessa in that aspect. So that was kind of against. Um Ms. Santa Thornton, any comments that you see on Facebook Live? [5:26:17, 5:26:26]: against uh the budget what's going on with the budget right now in our discussion. Sir, um someone on Facebook identifying themselves as a citizen has mentioned um a subdivision. [5:26:27, 5:26:30]: Pine Grove Subdivision needs resurfacing. That was mentioned. [5:26:32, 5:26:32]: Okay. [5:26:33, 5:26:39]: Okay. All right. And I have here a raised hand. [5:26:41, 5:26:44]: And I would imagine this is is this uh [5:26:45, 5:26:50]: It's probably for against in a sense. Since I talked about against. I don't know. Let's see here, see here. [5:26:53, 5:26:55]: Um [5:27:06, 5:27:14]: All right there, Mr. Bruce Smith, you had a comment in reference to the the budget proceedings and I'm on on some comments against what was going on with the budget. [5:27:20, 5:27:24]: Mrs. Smith, I've now opened it up for you to make comments. You have your hand raised. [5:27:31, 5:27:34]: Oh, I was trying to get to you. Can you hear me now? [5:27:34, 5:27:35]: I gotcha. Go ahead. [5:27:36, 5:27:38]: Uh, this meeting went on too long. [5:27:38, 5:27:40]: Exactly, too long. [5:27:40, 5:27:41]: Um [5:27:42, 5:27:45]: The agenda should have been set for it to just go smoothly right on through. [5:27:46, 5:27:50]: But you've been making a whole lot of comments down here and I apparently [5:27:50, 5:27:53]: Some council people have not been listening to other council people. [5:27:54, 5:27:56]: Uh making perfectly good sense. [5:27:56, 5:28:05]: Uh some of this stuff here should have been discussed before instead of going on you went an hour on one subject that should last about 15 minutes at the most. [5:28:06, 5:28:26]: Uh you still have people you still have people standing here waiting to uh listen to uh the chief. Uh you asking impossible questions to I guess the city attorney uh to come up with all these off-the-wall things here. Uh Ms. Bob is correct that lighting issue should have been resolved a long time ago, but that's something that should not have been [5:28:26, 5:28:31]: 40 minutes on, uh y'all act like y'all kinda bit dysfunctional at the night. [5:28:32, 5:28:52]: And yes, I do agree with Councilman Thomas that y'all should table some of this stuff and work it out and have another special call meeting and and get back to streamlining some of this stuff. It is 1130 at night and I've been on this thing with y'all since you started this council meeting. And it's a long and someone said it's a marathon session, which it really shouldn't be. It really shouldn't be. [5:28:52, 5:28:53]: Nah oh [5:28:54, 5:28:57]: Y'all know my my position on on on making money for the city. [5:28:57, 5:29:12]: Uh I think that was unwise to put a uh Halloween celebration in the city. Uh have the same thing, Councilman Blount made a point that you had people prepared to put these kind of things on, that Halloween thing, and you putting it on the 31st. [5:29:12, 5:29:28]: And and Councilman Blount was current absolutely correct. There are too many places having tongue treats. And if this thing shows up, we don't even have the structure to have this thing downtown like McDonald or Hampton or Ellingwood has, you know, or Locust Grove has. We don't have that kind of structure for that. [5:29:29, 5:29:42]: So until we build all that up, you know, we can't be planning for all of this. And I I'm listening to all this money being put out tonight, but I don't see no income coming in. I see all this money we're spending on this budget, but I don't see any income. [5:29:43, 5:29:48]: Uh you know, we gotta get it better than this. We I mean we're going into a brand new year and [5:29:49, 5:29:57]: What the what people are telling me, and I'm talking about professional people looking at stock bridge, we're gonna be a$17 million deficit come uh July. [5:29:57, 5:29:58]: And we shouldn't be like that. [5:29:59, 5:30:00]: We shouldn't be there. [5:30:02, 5:30:04]: And uh the meeting tonight. [5:30:04, 5:30:07]: It was just too long and too much out of control. [5:30:08, 5:30:12]: You know, y'all need to streamline because the citizen stock bridges deserve better. They really do. [5:30:13, 5:30:15]: All right, well thank you for your comments, sir. [5:30:22, 5:30:25]: Oh. [5:30:33, 5:30:41]: All right, folks. Um, okay. So Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. Uh I I have a question uh for the city clerk. [5:30:43, 5:30:44]: Clarific clarification. [5:30:45, 5:30:46]: I'm sorry. [5:30:46, 5:30:50]: Uh it's it's it's more of a a clarification. Okay. Um [5:30:51, 5:30:54]: The budget process, you know, um [5:30:54, 5:31:01]: my knowledge of the budget is that it it just need to be ratified um before the end of the year. [5:31:02, 5:31:02]: Um [5:31:03, 5:31:07]: Can we uh actually do this uh at the next council meeting? [5:31:07, 5:31:08]: Ratification. [5:31:09, 5:31:13]: That's correct. It would be a continuance of your public hearing. [5:31:13, 5:31:20]: If you don't adopt it by December thirty-first, you would move forward into the new year with the current budget that you have for 2021. [5:31:21, 5:31:21]: Thank you. [5:31:23, 5:31:23]: All right. [5:31:24, 5:31:28]: We're now moved and if not only the questions on that, we're now moving to new business. [5:31:29, 5:31:31]: And uh [5:31:31, 5:31:37]: Number thirteen, request for proposal RFP number twenty twenty that zero view. Yes, ma'am. [5:31:38, 5:31:40]: Can we adjourn for tonight? [5:31:40, 5:31:50]: Or do we have to go through the new business? I'm sorry. But we've been through a lot of line items and added things to the agenda and it's just it's really late. [5:31:50, 5:31:52]: I don't know if I can [5:31:53, 5:31:58]: function anymore. I'm just asking that I think we all are tired and we went through [5:31:59, 5:32:02]: W you know, we can put this on another agenda. [5:32:02, 5:32:22]: But right now, I mean, it's 1130. We had another meeting earlier this past week and we we went for a very long time. And then the meeting before that, we were here to 1230 AM. And it's just a long, long night. And it's been a long two weeks of this. And so [5:32:22, 5:32:26]: If we can kind of regroup and come back, that would be great. [5:32:27, 5:32:33]: This was a lot to take in. I mean, people came up with all kind of new ideas and and new [5:32:33, 5:32:42]: Line items. I mean, it would it's just too much. Yeah, we have these contracts to go through, and I think Chief Chief Kramer was going to make a presentation as well. [5:32:42, 5:32:45]: Um okay, well. [5:32:46, 5:33:06]: I'm ready to go forward. Now, if you all want to adjourn the meeting, we can count, put this on the next meeting, but which the next meeting also will possibly be, you know, somewhat lengthy too, because this is uh six six five additional, six additional items. And we have some other things that some uh routine uh items that uh should go very quickly in reference to the [5:33:06, 5:33:08]: Upcoming New Year. [5:33:08, 5:33:12]: But then Miss Barber, you had Ms. Hold on a second. Miss Barber, you had your hand up. You have a comment, I guess. [5:33:13, 5:33:14]: Keep moving. [5:33:15, 5:33:16]: Let's continue. [5:33:18, 5:33:20]: All right. Mayor Pro Tem? [5:33:21, 5:33:33]: Let's keep going, but we gotta do the citizens business. You know, no one gave us a time limit on what we need to do. Keep moving. Let's go. Let's keep the unnecessary comments to a minimum and let's keep keep it rolling. [5:33:34, 5:33:37]: All right. Any other comments for anybody else? [5:33:39, 5:33:55]: All right. Number 13, request for proposal, RFP number 2020-0026, annual on-call water and sewer emergency operations repair, maintenance, and construction, site engineering incorporated. Ms. Miller and Mr. Aaron, please. [5:33:55, 5:34:00]: Uh good afternoon, Mayor and Council. The public works department is requesting approval to renew the [5:34:00, 5:34:08]: Um competitive solicited contract pursuant to the RFP 202026 Site Engineering Incorporated. [5:34:11, 5:34:12]: Okay. [5:34:13, 5:34:17]: Any c and anything else, Mr. Erin, you got anything to add to that? [5:34:17, 5:34:27]: Uh they're our primary contractor. They do stormwater repair in the city. They just did a major project for us on Hudson Bridge Drive. So we use them. [5:34:27, 5:34:33]: are as as needed to do specifically stormwater projects as part of our stormwater management plan. [5:34:34, 5:34:34]: Okay. [5:34:35, 5:34:43]: Yes, and I would like to add that the contract agreement as stated is attached. Um the contract agreement also references references the RFP, which was also included. [5:34:44, 5:34:47]: Um in the um package that was submitted to council. [5:34:47, 5:34:52]: In addition to that, the contract was also renewed based on Georgia State statute. [5:34:53, 5:34:55]: Okay, any questions, Council? [5:34:55, 5:34:59]: Yes, I'd like to know when was his contract fully executed. [5:35:00, 5:35:01]: And when was the award? [5:35:02, 5:35:04]: The original award of this contract. [5:35:05, 5:35:08]: Okay, based on the contract that's attached, you execute [5:35:09, 5:35:11]: The contract was executed on [5:35:12, 5:35:13]: See here. [5:35:18, 5:35:20]: April 12th, 2021. [5:35:26, 5:35:31]: And it was signed and executed by the clerk, the mayor, the city, the mayor, and the vendor. [5:35:32, 5:35:36]: The bid the the contract was bidded out on [5:35:44, 5:35:47]: Contract was approved by council April 12th, 2021. [5:35:47, 5:35:50]: The agreement is for one year with with four one year renewals. [5:35:51, 5:35:54]: And that stated it was um renewed based on Georgia Code. [5:35:57, 5:35:58]: You know the questions, Council? [5:36:00, 5:36:09]: If not in the motion accept this uh contract or accept I do have one more question. This is um for a one year extension. [5:36:10, 5:36:13]: Right. The contract was um the contract has a one year [5:36:14, 5:36:21]: One is a one year contract with with the option to renew for four one year renewals. We're bringing it this before you now for one year extension. [5:36:22, 5:36:28]: Okay, so if this contract was approved in April of twenty twenty one. [5:36:30, 5:36:36]: A year from now would be April 2022. So why should we present it to the council at this time? [5:36:37, 5:36:37]: Oh. [5:36:38, 5:36:46]: Right. Based on Georgia code, uh six Georgia code multi-year, I can read the section of the code which applies to the fiscal year renewal if you would like. [5:36:49, 5:36:53]: If if it helps clarify anything, we must do that then. Sure, definitely. [5:36:58, 5:36:59]: Um [5:37:00, 5:37:03]: Okay, basically uh twenty sixteen Georgia Code Title Fifty. [5:37:04, 5:37:05]: Um секшен [5:37:06, 5:37:23]: One, the contract shall terminate absolutely and without further obligation on the part of the user agency of the department at the close of the physical year in which the in which the contract was executed and at the close of the succeeding fiscal year for which it may be renewed. Again, that's um 2016 Georgia Code Title 15 number one. [5:37:25, 5:37:25]: Okay. [5:37:26, 5:37:29]: Mr. Ford, I'd like to make a motion for this. [5:37:29, 5:37:30]: I go there. [5:37:31, 5:37:34]: I'll make a motion to extend this contract. [5:37:34, 5:37:39]: with the condition that this be rebidted um next year. [5:37:41, 5:37:41]: Oh [5:37:42, 5:37:46]: If this project was just this contract would just be it this year. [5:37:46, 5:37:51]: We went out for bid this year for the own call and psych was the one that [5:37:52, 5:37:57]: was awarded the contract. I'm looking at the RP and it said it built it out in twenty twenty. [5:37:58, 5:38:02]: Well perhaps the award was made in twenty twenty one. [5:38:02, 5:38:13]: Yeah. Basically the RFP number is 2020 0026. The RFP was sent out during the 2020 fiscal year. [5:38:16, 5:38:18]: The award was done after the fact. [5:38:19, 5:38:37]: So I'm not really concerned about the fiscal year. All I'm concerned about is what does the term say in the contract language? And basically the contract was approved by by council April 12th, 2021. There's a one-year contract with four one year renewals. [5:38:41, 5:38:47]: That's actually what we agreed upon when uh when because I don't sign contracts like this unless I had approval. So [5:38:47, 5:38:49]: So we agreed upon that. [5:38:50, 5:38:52]: Before we make a motion, I'd like to ask some questions. [5:38:53, 5:38:54]: All right. [5:38:55, 5:39:02]: What work what work has this vendor done for us? Uh I'm sorry you mentioned Hudson Bridge. Is that work complete or no? [5:39:03, 5:39:04]: Yes, sir, that project is complete. [5:39:05, 5:39:08]: They got a project coming up on the [5:39:09, 5:39:16]: Summit View. They've done projects throughout the city for they've done stuff in North Ridge. They've done projects in Glen Addy. [5:39:16, 5:39:20]: They've done projects in uh Winsong. [5:39:20, 5:39:26]: Uh throughout the city they've done stormwater projects. I can send a list of projects that they have. [5:39:27, 5:39:31]: Don is usually included in our quarterly update, but I could send out that spreadsheet tomorrow. [5:39:32, 5:39:35]: And so we're so w what so they've been with the city since April? [5:39:38, 5:39:52]: Well that's when I signed the contract anyway. Right. So I mean were they our previous vendor or were they just a new vendor to they were a previous vendor when we rebid it? They were the lowest binder this time as well. So that's why we're using them again. [5:39:53, 5:39:59]: Okay, so we we decided to go with the lowest vendor. That's what we're doing, is that what was required? [5:39:59, 5:40:05]: We're also actually uh there was a correction on that. This was an RFP, it was not an ITB, which means that [5:40:05, 5:40:12]: They were evaluated based on cost, was one part of it. The other part was experienced, and it was all done by the evaluation committee. [5:40:15, 5:40:19]: Okay, so it wasn't are you saying that it was or was not put [5:40:20, 5:40:32]: back out or yes it was yes it was it was it was resolicited but it was resolicited as a request for proposal in which cost is one component there was three different components in which they were evaluated. [5:40:32, 5:40:35]: Okay, so they weren't not necessarily the lowest cost and were just [5:40:36, 5:40:38]: That they were the ones selected by the committee. [5:40:38, 5:40:39]: So [5:40:39, 5:40:42]: Uh do we we're we're okay. All right. [5:40:44, 5:40:44]: Okay. [5:40:47, 5:40:48]: All right. Anything else? Mr. Blount. [5:40:50, 5:40:55]: Mayor is there a motion on the floor? Uh but it wasn't seconded. Motion wasn't seconded. [5:40:56, 5:41:03]: Well I'd like to I like the motion to um approve the request for RLP for on-site water and sewer engineering. [5:41:03, 5:41:07]: Okay. I'll second. Okay, Ms. Cass second that. All right. [5:41:08, 5:41:10]: I would imagine there's no further comment. [5:41:10, 5:41:12]: And so all in favor of motion, please indicate. [5:41:13, 5:41:13]: Uh [5:41:15, 5:41:17]: I mean it's gonna drop off over. All opposed. [5:41:19, 5:41:22]: You see that on the screen there. [5:41:23, 5:41:25]: Okay. Abstain? [5:41:27, 5:41:30]: I'm wondering, did you call for a second on the motion that I made? [5:41:31, 5:41:32]: I thought I was [5:41:34, 5:41:47]: Well, we already we just made uh well I thought I did, but uh but what it amounts to w whether I did or not now we already had a we just had a motion, a second, and we're taking a vote. And see, so that takes precedent the point. So right now I have um [5:41:47, 5:41:53]: uh two two for and two against and what is your motion what is your part of your uh what is your decision [5:41:55, 5:41:55]: According to [5:41:56, 5:41:56]: Excuse me? [5:41:57, 5:42:02]: I oppose. You oppose. Okay. So the motion fails three to two. [5:42:04, 5:42:04]: So I took [5:42:05, 5:42:14]: Can I just mention something? That means that if we have an emergency, a stormwater emergency or anything like that, we do not have a vendor available to repair it. [5:42:15, 5:42:15]: So [5:42:16, 5:42:16]: Yeah. [5:42:18, 5:42:20]: Well, I'd like to make another motion. [5:42:20, 5:42:22]: Mayor, if you'd if you'd like me to. [5:42:23, 5:42:24]: We feel a lot. [5:42:24, 5:42:29]: Stand by a second. Mr. Thomas. [5:42:29, 5:42:35]: So um aren't they still on on on call up up until [5:42:35, 5:42:39]: Uh December thirty first or April, whatever that date is. [5:42:40, 5:42:41]: No, sir. [5:42:42, 5:42:42]: They're [5:42:43, 5:42:48]: According to Ms. Miller, there the the agreement will terminate on December thirty first of this year. [5:42:49, 5:42:53]: We just had that discussion. The attorney told us twelve months is twelve months. [5:42:53, 5:42:54]: Right. [5:42:57, 5:42:58]: That is correct. [5:42:59, 5:43:00]: So [5:43:00, 5:43:03]: See that's see that's that's that's the problem w [5:43:03, 5:43:06]: I I'm just having a problem with this process. So [5:43:07, 5:43:09]: Is it is or is it not? [5:43:10, 5:43:10]: I it's [5:43:15, 5:43:17]: I need to know when this contract was fully executed. [5:43:19, 5:43:21]: In April, so it would be twelve months from that. [5:43:22, 5:43:23]: One full year. [5:43:25, 5:43:31]: And I uh um mayor counsel, so you know whatever the um uh the attorney um deems to be. [5:43:31, 5:43:33]: Uh legally sufficient. [5:43:33, 5:43:35]: Um, procurement is more than willing to. [5:43:36, 5:43:41]: accept the um attorney's legal position, um, understanding that I I I read the code. [5:43:42, 5:43:47]: Okay,'cause so could so in April could this contract be put back out is since we're not [5:43:47, 5:43:51]: Uh is that the case or how does it what works from there in April? [5:43:59, 5:44:03]: Well, if if it's council's wish, I guess we'll go back out to bed next year. [5:44:04, 5:44:06]: Well yes, let's do that. [5:44:07, 5:44:13]: Otherwise uh we're we're we're not to vote on this tonight. So that was that's why I get gathered from this point. [5:44:13, 5:44:21]: Therefore, I'd like to make a motion. My motion is to move forward with council um with staff's recommendation to [5:44:21, 5:44:23]: Extend this contract. [5:44:24, 5:44:26]: but with the condition that it be rebidd. [5:44:27, 5:44:28]: Next year. [5:44:29, 5:44:32]: And a new recommendation to award a new contract. [5:44:33, 5:44:35]: Is presented to the council. [5:44:36, 5:44:36]: Choir. [5:44:37, 5:44:38]: to the expiration date. [5:44:39, 5:44:45]: And we don't we we don't need a new motion. It's gonna go to April anyway. The attorneys already told us. [5:44:45, 5:44:53]: That the contract is 12 months. So it's not going to expire tonight. It won't expire until April. So we don't really need to do that. [5:44:54, 5:44:58]: So we don't need to do anything actually. We don't need to do anything. We they're still on the contract till April. [5:45:00, 5:45:00]: Mm. [5:45:01, 5:45:02]: Yes, Mr. Blount. [5:45:03, 5:45:04]: Uh Quentin. [5:45:05, 5:45:09]: Is there anything else on here that that you would say we don't need to approve tonight? [5:45:10, 5:45:16]: Because to go through all this and go through whatever, is it anything that you see that we don't need to prove tonight? [5:45:16, 5:45:23]: versus what m what what Ms. Miller is saying, is there something on there you saying we don't need to approve tonight that that's going to be extended through next year. [5:45:24, 5:45:28]: Because we're going through a whole bunch of nothing and I think they say Chief got a presentation. [5:45:28, 5:45:34]: It's getting late in the evening and and you know, it's it's sometimes it's time to just cut cut cut this stuff out. [5:45:34, 5:45:36]: Is there anything else on these uh [5:45:36, 5:45:42]: on here that that that that we don't need to prove tonight. Can you guys let let us know now? [5:45:46, 5:45:47]: That's a tough. [5:45:48, 5:45:49]: I like that. [5:45:49, 5:45:52]: That that's a tough one to be able to answer like that because [5:45:52, 5:45:53]: Good things, vendors. [5:45:54, 5:45:56]: And with all vendors. [5:45:56, 5:45:59]: There's going to be some level of latitude because we're working with them already. [5:46:00, 5:46:08]: And so if a contract were to expire at the end of the month, and I know we have a meeting on Wednesday, I know we have a couple of other meetings this month. [5:46:09, 5:46:09]: Then [5:46:10, 5:46:15]: That can be ingested and worked with. It does put a strain on [5:46:15, 5:46:18]: Those of us who are on the executive side. [5:46:18, 5:46:20]: If we don't have clear direction about what we want to do. [5:46:21, 5:46:21]: Yeah, so [5:46:22, 5:46:30]: They will they will give us some latitude. The question is how much latitude? And it just does put a lot of executive strain. It does put a lot of strain on the executive side if. [5:46:30, 5:46:33]: We don't have the record. Mr. Washington. Mr. Washington, real quick. [5:46:34, 5:46:36]: I'm talking about situations like we just had. [5:46:37, 5:46:37]: We're [5:46:38, 5:46:39]: We we're uh [5:46:40, 5:46:43]: The the year the year is up in uh April. [5:46:43, 5:46:46]: And we're renewing the night because as a [5:46:46, 5:46:57]: I guess a misunderstanding or or well, I'm gonna say misunderstanding and it misin an interpretation by procurement of interpretation by you all. Is there anything else that we need to approve tonight? [5:46:58, 5:47:00]: That twelve months in in twenty twenty two. [5:47:01, 5:47:03]: Because it's gonna be the same situation. [5:47:05, 5:47:10]: Uh Mr. Wing, what the fiscal year ends in Stockbridge is are y'all, is that December? [5:47:10, 5:47:13]: The third first. Third first of December. [5:47:14, 5:47:14]: Right. [5:47:15, 5:47:17]: And so that's why [5:47:17, 5:47:21]: That's where the confusion comes in, the fiscal year, as you all know. [5:47:22, 5:47:25]: Or of Stockbridge is the end of the is the end of December. [5:47:25, 5:47:34]: So the gold says you gotta bring them in. In theory, you have to bring them in, but you're already working with these vendors. And so most time it's not an issue. So I guess. [5:47:35, 5:47:40]: We can l so to answer your question, yes. If you won't give us a minute, we can look through the stuff and and talk with [5:47:41, 5:47:42]: Procurement about it. [5:47:42, 5:47:45]: Well, Quentin, let me say this because if the language [5:47:45, 5:47:48]: If the language says fiscal year. [5:47:49, 5:47:51]: And we'll wait until April. [5:47:51, 5:47:55]: then to me that's a conflict in in in uh uh [5:47:56, 5:47:58]: And what procurement is presenting [5:47:59, 5:48:06]: versus what's written in the contract versus their start the the the date of April, which you're saying that we all have to renew. [5:48:07, 5:48:09]: So I'm just trying to figure out [5:48:09, 5:48:18]: Between that those two, how do how do we determine whether we're gonna deal with fiscal year, which is December thirty first, or we're gonna deal with a full year, which is in April? [5:48:19, 5:48:22]: No, so they're still on the contract to do a full year. [5:48:23, 5:48:23]: Right. [5:48:24, 5:48:24]: But [5:48:25, 5:48:26]: In essence, if we're not [5:48:27, 5:48:29]: If we don't renew the contract. [5:48:31, 5:48:35]: Generally what will happen and and I'll let Jeremy speak to this as well. [5:48:35, 5:48:41]: Generally what will happen is that because they're under contract for a year, they have a right to perform a that entire year. [5:48:42, 5:48:43]: However, if they do not get [5:48:44, 5:48:54]: per the terms of the contract. And I'm not I'm I've not looked at the specific contract. As you all know, Jeremy's been taking the lead on the procurement. But what happens is that [5:48:54, 5:48:57]: If they're not given enough notice to be able to renew the contract. [5:48:58, 5:49:00]: then they won't renew and the services will end. [5:49:00, 5:49:05]: But typically because there's a working relationship with governmental entities like cities and and [5:49:06, 5:49:12]: water authorities and all that type of stuff, the vendors will give latitude because the vendors know that the people they're working with have good [5:49:13, 5:49:15]: the ability to pay and meet and term the contract. [5:49:15, 5:49:16]: Well, I went Jeremy. [5:49:19, 5:49:21]: Jeremy, you want to continue? Yeah, the [5:49:22, 5:49:34]: As as we discussed, it's my position. Some of these contracts that were signed in April, for example, run though the city's fiscal year is the calendar year, the contracts run. If it was signed in April, then it would run through. [5:49:35, 5:49:37]: April to April or or successive year. [5:49:41, 5:49:41]: Okay. [5:49:42, 5:49:49]: Stand by Miss Barber. Mr. Thomas, you had your hand up earlier. Well, I was I was gonna respond to uh Councilman Blount. [5:49:49, 5:49:52]: Actually it was about the next agenda item. [5:49:53, 5:50:01]: And I was going to speak on that and I was gonna make this real quick. And I think this one is, I think we can sort of um finalize this one if we get to it. [5:50:02, 5:50:08]: uh agenda item 14 uh is it seventeen whichever one it is it's actually the next item I believe. [5:50:10, 5:50:11]: All right, Miss Barber. [5:50:13, 5:50:20]: No, I wanted to, I'm looking at the contract. It is important to note the terms of this contract. [5:50:20, 5:50:23]: It doesn't speak about physical year or calendar year. [5:50:23, 5:50:26]: It just says this agreement shall be for one year. [5:50:26, 5:50:28]: Com commencing [5:50:29, 5:50:31]: On the date of execution. [5:50:31, 5:50:33]: Stated. [5:50:34, 5:50:35]: So the execution date. [5:50:36, 5:50:37]: One year from there. [5:50:38, 5:50:40]: which is in April of next year. [5:50:40, 5:50:43]: We can move on with this. There's nothing, no action. [5:50:43, 5:50:45]: from the council at this time. [5:50:45, 5:50:47]: That's that's a great that's a great point. [5:50:47, 5:50:48]: We won't. [5:50:49, 5:50:54]: Also, um again, um as stated, um procurement has um read the code. [5:50:54, 5:50:58]: Basically, there's a section also in the contract that speaks to the RFP. [5:50:58, 5:51:07]: Keep in mind that the RP is an exhibit to the actual contract. So no contract stands on this loan on its own. It's not just a two-page contract. This contract. [5:51:07, 5:51:27]: Refers to exhibit as the scope and terms as is listed in the RFP. The RFP is a component to the contract. But that being said, legal has spoken. I've learned in best practices that if legal has spoken, then procurement can then follow. So if legal has spoken, I would like to state that the next two projects. [5:51:27, 5:51:47]: Which is janitorial, and the landscape maintenance has the same issue in which it was renewed based on the state code physical term being December. And also the contract also refers to the RFP. The RFP clearly states that the renewal terms is December. [5:51:47, 5:51:49]: However, [5:51:50, 5:51:57]: Council has spoken, legal has spoken, and procurement is more than willing to follow legal legal advice. [5:52:01, 5:52:21]: Okay, so make sure I understand you you're saying the janitorial maintenance is in the same issue and you mentioned landscape maintenance. Is that right? That's correct. Both of them are um renewed based on the code, the fiscal year state code, and also in the contracts, it refers to the RFP as an exhibit. If you review the RFP, that's why they're all sent in the [5:52:21, 5:52:41]: The package because it is a part of the contract. It refers to the RFP and the terms listed in the RFP, which is part of the contract. That being said, all that was said for the record. That being said, legal has spoken, legal has determined that we do not need to go with the fiscal year. So procurement is more than willing. [5:52:41, 5:52:43]: willing to fill it to um follow legal's advice. [5:52:44, 5:52:51]: All right. And earlier, yeah, I was saying earlier, Mr. Thomas, I think you have some concern about the maintenance contract. Is that correct? [5:52:51, 5:52:53]: Yellowstone, yes I do. [5:52:53, 5:52:54]: All right. [5:52:54, 5:52:58]: Uh all right. Not the not the not to mention, but Yellowstone. [5:53:00, 5:53:02]: It says [5:53:02, 5:53:07]: It says landscape maintenance services with Yellowstone Landscape LLC. That is the one. [5:53:09, 5:53:29]: Last number 14. But I'm man and make sure before we go on. So I'm assuming number 13, no issue. We just leave it as is. We move on to number 14. Is that correct? Is that is that janitor? No, no, no, no. 14 would deal with the on-call water and sewer. I think we're moving on from that. Number 14 deals with the landscape maintenance and services with Yellowstone. That's what [5:53:28, 5:53:32]: Yes, we have the issue with Yellowstone. All right, so. [5:53:32, 5:53:50]: All right. So that's a request for proposal. RFP number 2021-004. Landscape maintenance services with Yellowstone Landscape LLC contract renewal presented by once again Miss Miller and Mr. Aaron. And so do you all have some comments before Mr. Mr. Thomas speaks? [5:53:50, 5:53:57]: No, basically uh the public works department is also requesting renewal. For the record, the contract was renewed based on state code. [5:53:57, 5:54:11]: The contract also refers to the RFP as an exhibit. The act the exhibit states basically uh the RFP states basically that the contracts renew December of each year and um the uh [5:54:12, 5:54:21]: Public Works Department has determined that they were happy with um the work of of the of Yellowstone. That being said, I'll go ahead and turn it over to the public works director. [5:54:22, 5:54:29]: Thank you. Oh, thank you, Ms. Miller. I don't have any comments at this time. As as we all know, they started in October, October one. [5:54:30, 5:54:31]: They um did some [5:54:32, 5:54:37]: uh refreshing at the amphitheater and they have done some other cities. [5:54:37, 5:54:37]: [21278.5, 21279.5]: But that's all I have. [5:54:39, 5:54:41]: Okay, Mr. Thomas, you have some comments then. [5:54:42, 5:54:51]: Yes, um if if council would recall, um Yellowstone, this contract came to us in September September the twenty-eighth. [5:54:52, 5:55:00]: uh in twenty twenty one uh in the um supporting document it referenced uh that date [5:55:01, 5:55:03]: I went back and pulled that. [5:55:04, 5:55:10]: Um that contract. I went back and pulled the uh minutes and issue that I have. [5:55:10, 5:55:16]: At that time in September of twenty eight, it spoke to the scope of [5:55:16, 5:55:17]: Work. [5:55:18, 5:55:21]: Um and Mrs. Barber had a had a comment as well. [5:55:21, 5:55:23]: So the [5:55:25, 5:55:32]: Mr. Let me just go back. Councilwoman Barber had an issue uh with [5:55:34, 5:55:36]: With the um [5:55:37, 5:55:42]: With she inquired about the area that would be covered in this agreement. [5:55:42, 5:55:53]: Uh Mr. Aaron noted I'm reading from the minutes, uh, but I can't go back to uh September the 28th with that document. Uh Mr. Aaron noted that it would cover City Hall. [5:55:54, 5:55:56]: Менісипот [5:55:56, 5:55:57]: The amputheater [5:55:58, 5:56:00]: The new public works building. [5:56:00, 5:56:03]: Maintenance m uh municipal park. [5:56:03, 5:56:09]: The Merrill Manner's Conference Center, the Ted Stricken Conference Center, the Downtown Streetscape, [5:56:10, 5:56:17]: East Atlanta Road Street, historic markers at Floyd Chapel. [5:56:17, 5:56:18]: And the Greenfront Cafe. [5:56:19, 5:56:24]: Banner stations at Walmart and North Henry Boulevard and Rockwork. [5:56:25, 5:56:28]: This is the agreement that we approved. [5:56:29, 5:56:31]: And uh on September the twenty eighth. [5:56:32, 5:56:34]: For two hundred and fifty thousand. [5:56:35, 5:56:36]: No. [5:56:36, 5:56:37]: Today. [5:56:38, 5:56:41]: This is coming back to us again. [5:56:41, 5:56:45]: For an additional hundred and fifty thousand. [5:56:45, 5:56:51]: for the same coverage that we are approved on on September the twenty eighth. [5:56:52, 5:56:57]: And just based on that, um, I'm going to motion to to deny because. [5:56:58, 5:56:59]: We have approved [5:57:00, 5:57:11]: the scope of work. And if you go back and look at the document and look at the summary minute, uh it indicates that all of these um service areas [5:57:12, 5:57:14]: were approved [5:57:15, 5:57:17]: On September the twenty eight. [5:57:18, 5:57:19]: And here now. [5:57:19, 5:57:22]: It's coming back again. [5:57:22, 5:57:24]: Uh with the same scope. [5:57:25, 5:57:27]: And they're asking us to [5:57:28, 5:57:35]: approve an additional 150,000. So my point is is again, and and as we can see all night tonight, [5:57:36, 5:57:39]: Um it it's just something wrong here. Um [5:57:40, 5:57:56]: I'm not, it's just something wrong here. And that that's the point I'm trying to make, but I'm going to make a motion uh to to deny this tonight simply because we have already approved the contract uh September the 28th for the scope of work that that was indicated at that time. [5:57:57, 5:57:58]: Uh Mayor, may I may I speak? [5:57:59, 5:58:01]: Yeah, sure. Go ahead, please. [5:58:01, 5:58:21]: Yes, um basically if you look at the agenda um that was submitted for the um landscape on page two of the land of the agenda, it basically states that yes, we are asking to renew the contract, but if um on but in the section um of the middle of the contract, it states that the public works department is [5:58:20, 5:58:40]: Also requesting that the annual contract amount of the landscape maintenance be increased by$150,000 to accommodate the modified scope of services, which will include two additional city buildings, amphitheater and public works, the two banner sites, and the [5:58:40, 5:59:00]: Two historical markers for an annual annual estimated overall contract amount of 300,000. So, yes, the contract was initially awarded as stated for 250,000, but because the public works department is asking to add additional modified scope, it actually increases. [5:59:00, 5:59:05]: the overall amount and that is listed on the second page of the agenda. [5:59:05, 5:59:12]: Mayor, I I contend that what we approved on what we approved on September the 28th. [5:59:13, 5:59:15]: It had the full scope. [5:59:15, 5:59:25]: Um and and I I I remember that because Mrs. Barber um she she abstained simply because she did not see um [5:59:26, 5:59:30]: uh the the the the contract language but [5:59:30, 5:59:33]: Um what I read just a minute ago. [5:59:34, 5:59:44]: That all of those um areas of of scope of work, this is what we approved upon September the 28th. [5:59:45, 5:59:56]: uh in 2021. We we approve all of the scope of work at that time. So there's no additional scope as I as I interpret this document. [5:59:56, 5:59:59]: It was approved upon um September the twenty eighth. [6:00:00, 6:00:01]: Dacious, would you like to speak to that? [6:00:02, 6:00:17]: Yeah, could we hear from Mr. Aaron? And Mr. Aaron is quoted in the uh summary minutes going back uh September the twenty eighth, twenty twenty-one. Uh he he responded to Council Woman's uh question. [6:00:18, 6:00:19]: Okay. [6:00:19, 6:00:24]: The price differential is remember that was a conversation where it was gonna be [6:00:25, 6:00:31]: twice a year with the pine straw. And I think Mayor Pro Tem Alexander mentioned that that wasn't frequent enough. [6:00:31, 6:00:33]: So that was changed to quarterly. [6:00:34, 6:00:36]: Instead of semi annual. [6:00:36, 6:00:44]: At all of the facilities. And that's what led to the increase because you changed the number of service or number of visits. [6:00:45, 6:01:03]: at certain locations. I know City Hall with the pine straw, it was amphitheater and it and it was the uh location across by Stockbridge Elementary School and it was some other things that you added the number of service visits to those locations. That's what led to the price increase. [6:01:04, 6:01:06]: Mayor Ford, if I may again. [6:01:06, 6:01:07]: The minutes [6:01:08, 6:01:11]: Uh Mr. Rod uh Mangrum. [6:01:11, 6:01:15]: Representative of Yellowstone landscape noted [6:01:16, 6:01:17]: It would include [6:01:18, 6:01:19]: Weekly maintenance [6:01:19, 6:01:26]: during the growing season and biweekly maintenance of the off season, weekly moin. [6:01:27, 6:01:29]: Two applications of pine straw. [6:01:29, 6:01:38]: Uh ro rotation of flower. All of this was included in the September 28th agreement. [6:01:41, 6:01:44]: All right. Uh Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [6:01:46, 6:01:50]: Thank you, Mayor Ford. I'd like to ask the city attorneys. [6:01:51, 6:01:55]: Are they reviewing these contracts before they're brought to the council? [6:01:57, 6:02:00]: I like for them to review these before they come to the council. [6:02:01, 6:02:03]: Mr. Washington, are you all reviewing these? [6:02:04, 6:02:05]: Before they come to us. [6:02:06, 6:02:07]: They're sent to us, yes. [6:02:09, 6:02:10]: All these are not sent to us. [6:02:12, 6:02:14]: I'm looking at [6:02:14, 6:02:20]: There but Jeremy now Jeremy correct me because Jeremy's dealing exclusively with procurement is one of his matters. So I [6:02:20, 6:02:21]: Can't speak on. [6:02:21, 6:02:26]: If we have by that'cause I'm doing other contracts that we do have that are coming up, but [6:02:26, 6:02:30]: I'm looking at the staff recommendation form for council approval. [6:02:30, 6:02:32]: For this particular item. [6:02:32, 6:02:34]: In the very first page. [6:02:34, 6:02:36]: Under the background information. [6:02:36, 6:02:40]: It says the public works department is requesting approval to renew. [6:02:40, 6:02:42]: The competitors solicited. [6:02:42, 6:02:43]: contract. [6:02:44, 6:02:48]: The c and it goes on to say the contract was approved by the council. [6:02:48, 6:02:49]: On September twenty eighth. [6:02:50, 6:02:54]: Of twenty twenty one in the amount of two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. [6:02:55, 6:02:58]: Then it goes on to staff recommendation. [6:02:59, 6:03:02]: Public Works is requesting approval to renew. [6:03:03, 6:03:05]: the competitive solicited contract. [6:03:06, 6:03:09]: That is really not what staff is requesting. [6:03:10, 6:03:10]: But [6:03:11, 6:03:12]: This is misleading. [6:03:13, 6:03:16]: There is um a document. [6:03:17, 6:03:19]: Here from Yellowstone. [6:03:20, 6:03:22]: And it points out the contract. [6:03:22, 6:03:23]: Effective thing. [6:03:24, 6:03:26]: October first of twenty twenty one. [6:03:26, 6:03:28]: with the contract expiration date. [6:03:29, 6:03:30]: Of September thirtieth. [6:03:31, 6:03:32]: of twenty twenty two. [6:03:34, 6:03:38]: So the council needs to be clear when these items are added to the agenda. [6:03:39, 6:03:40]: What actions? [6:03:40, 6:03:42]: Staff are looking for us to take. [6:03:43, 6:03:44]: This is a lot of information. [6:03:45, 6:03:47]: for us to have to read. This is 158 pages. [6:03:48, 6:03:50]: Just this item alone. [6:03:50, 6:03:58]: But all we need is to have a contract and to understand what it is the staff is asking the council to do. [6:03:59, 6:04:02]: This recommendation form says contract approval for renewal. [6:04:03, 6:04:11]: So it's misleading. And I just want to make sure that the attorneys are reviewing these items that contain contracts. [6:04:11, 6:04:13]: before it comes to the council. [6:04:13, 6:04:15]: Are you reviewing these, Mr. Berry? [6:04:16, 6:04:19]: But c Councilwoman Barr, Mayor Ford, if I may. [6:04:20, 6:04:21]: Go right ahead, sir. [6:04:21, 6:04:26]: Before you cut me off, Councilman Thomas, I'd like for Mr. Berry to answer my question. Jesus. [6:04:27, 6:04:31]: Yeah, same with you these council members. [6:04:32, 6:04:42]: Councilwoman Barber, if we may before we get to that point, my contention though is, and this way I'm sort of cutting you off, but my contention, we have approved. [6:04:43, 6:04:45]: The scope of work. [6:04:46, 6:04:54]: for disagreement. So this is precedent over I think what you what you are asking the attorney because it's been approved. [6:04:54, 6:05:06]: And all of the scope of work. So I think we got to deal with that issue first. You understand what I'm saying? We have approved the scope of work. So this is what you call double dipping. [6:05:08, 6:05:19]: So Councilwoman Barber, you can go ahead and and and ask uh Mr. Jeremy uh your your question, but I just want everyone to understand that we have approved the scope of work on September the 28th. [6:05:23, 6:05:24]: I already asked him my question. [6:05:25, 6:05:26]: I wanted to make sure that the attorneys [6:05:27, 6:05:32]: are reviewing these items as it pertains to contracts before they come to the council. [6:05:33, 6:05:34]: Because what [6:05:34, 6:05:36]: This is asking is for a renewal. [6:05:37, 6:05:38]: When in fact [6:05:38, 6:05:39]: That isn't [6:05:40, 6:05:44]: based on the com based on what Miss Miller said and Mr. [6:05:44, 6:05:45]: Aaron has said [6:05:46, 6:05:47]: They're not asking for a renewal. [6:05:48, 6:05:49]: But that's what this form says. [6:05:50, 6:05:52]: They're requesting counsel renewal. [6:05:54, 6:05:58]: I think for the original contract that we approved in September [6:05:59, 6:06:01]: Um for two hundred fifty thousand dollars. [6:06:02, 6:06:03]: I think now. [6:06:04, 6:06:05]: Mr. Aaron. [6:06:06, 6:06:07]: must be coming back. [6:06:08, 6:06:09]: Asking for us to increase it. [6:06:10, 6:06:12]: by another hundred and fifty thousand dollars. [6:06:14, 6:06:15]: That must be [6:06:15, 6:06:17]: what he is wanting. [6:06:17, 6:06:18]: If that is the case. [6:06:19, 6:06:25]: All of this information is irrelevant that they provide most of this information is irrelevant. [6:06:27, 6:06:41]: Mayor, may I speak? I need for Mr. Aaron or Ms. Miller to explain what is the purpose of what is this item and what action are they looking for the council to take. Mayor, may I speak? Yeah, go go write it, please. Okay, the um council recommendation form. [6:06:45, 6:06:50]: The council recommendation form here, it says background information on the front first page. [6:06:50, 6:06:53]: So the background information. [6:06:53, 6:06:55]: Is that basically the contract? [6:06:55, 6:06:57]: Was approved by council on the twenty first. [6:06:58, 6:07:02]: It's an estimated annual amount right now, background 250,000. [6:07:03, 6:07:08]: The contract is for one year with four one year renewal options. Background, we're still in background. [6:07:09, 6:07:10]: Background. [6:07:11, 6:07:13]: Second page says [6:07:14, 6:07:15]: Staff recommendation. [6:07:18, 6:07:20]: the background already happened. [6:07:20, 6:07:22]: This is the staff recommendation. [6:07:23, 6:07:26]: And you read where it says underneath staff recommendation. [6:07:26, 6:07:29]: We're summarizing now what we're asking for. [6:07:29, 6:07:30]: So now we're saying [6:07:31, 6:07:34]: Staff recommendation the public works department is requesting approval to renew. [6:07:35, 6:07:36]: The contract. [6:07:36, 6:07:38]: That's one of the staff recommendations. [6:07:39, 6:07:41]: We're referencing what the contract number is. [6:07:41, 6:07:44]: And we're asking them at the council to approve the renewal. [6:07:45, 6:07:48]: That's one of the staff recommendation. We're still under staff recommendation. [6:07:49, 6:07:50]: The next paragraph. [6:07:50, 6:07:51]: It says. [6:07:51, 6:07:55]: Public Works Department is also requesting that the annual contract amount [6:07:55, 6:07:58]: For landscaping maintenance increased by fifty thousand. [6:07:58, 6:08:02]: To accommodate the modified scope as stated by Dacious. [6:08:02, 6:08:03]: Um Mr. Erwin. [6:08:04, 6:08:10]: And to include the additional areas. We're still under the staff recommendation. So basically now. [6:08:10, 6:08:21]: We're saying that once we do, once if you were to approve that recommendation, the contract would be the overall contract amount will no longer be 200. [6:08:22, 6:08:23]: Um and fifty thousand. [6:08:24, 6:08:29]: Right, we're telling you that it will be three hundred thousand under the staff recommendation. [6:08:29, 6:08:34]: And then we just go ahead and reference that the contract is for one year. So it's so you're being mindful. [6:08:35, 6:08:39]: And then we state what the contract is for. So the first page where it says. [6:08:40, 6:08:43]: Background information basically already done. [6:08:43, 6:08:46]: The staff recommendation, this is what we're asking for. [6:08:47, 6:09:00]: Okay, Ms. Mayor Ford, looking at the first page of the staff recommendations, the action that staff is asking for, it says staff is asking for contract approval and renewal. [6:09:01, 6:09:04]: Then it says the action requested by city council. [6:09:05, 6:09:07]: It's misleading because it makes us think that [6:09:08, 6:09:09]: Staff is requesting. [6:09:10, 6:09:30]: The approval to renew this contract when in fact we are. Yes, yes, we are. Yes, ma'am. It is a one-year contract. So it's right. Well, that's the issue that um, as as stated in the previous conversation, that's the issue that um the attorneys are saying that they are taking the legal position. [6:09:30, 6:09:50]: That because it was September, that it goes through September. What I did for best practices is I looked at the state code, which is what we work under. And the state code says fiscal year. Our fiscal year is through December. The state attorney's legal opinion is that whenever it's [6:09:50, 6:10:10]: executed that it needs to go to the um next year. What I did was best practice and follow the state code. And basically when you look at the RFP, when you look at the agreement, the agreement reads the parties shall negotiate prices increase if any for 12 month renewal [6:10:10, 6:10:21]: per term renewal action. This is the actual agreement that I'm reading. And if you continue reading it, it says the terms and conditions following the terms and conditions of the RFP. [6:10:22, 6:10:33]: For the landscape needs and exhibits attached to Arvest RFP number 20210004, which means that this contract includes. [6:10:35, 6:10:37]: This RFP and whatever is in [6:10:37, 6:10:52]: This RFP pertains to this contract. So what the agenda says is that this is the background. And what we're asking for is the renewal and the modification of the contract. As stated. [6:10:53, 6:11:04]: The legal advice is that whenever it's signed, it goes for a year. What I said was that whatever legal has advised, procurement will follow and we will not go by the state code. [6:11:04, 6:11:11]: Well, there is a project detail from Yellowstone that clearly says the contract effective date. [6:11:11, 6:11:13]: It's October first of twenty twenty one. [6:11:14, 6:11:19]: And the contract expiration date is September thirtieth of twenty twenty two. [6:11:19, 6:11:23]: Right. I under yes, I understand that. [6:11:24, 6:11:27]: That's what I'm going by. Yeah, point of border. [6:11:27, 6:11:41]: Sir, I asked to speak next. Oh no, no, you didn't. Actually, Mr. Thomas is next, actually. I'm just doing that. I've had my hand up on the beginning. No, no, Mr. Thomas is next. Stand by. Maybe for it. Go ahead, sir. [6:11:41, 6:11:47]: I'm I'm not going to to that extent, even though Councilwoman Barb is correct. [6:11:48, 6:11:54]: This is my contention right here. And if we can sort of focus on this, I think we can finalize this. [6:11:54, 6:11:57]: September the twenty eighth. [6:11:58, 6:12:00]: Twenty twenty one. [6:12:00, 6:12:05]: Yep, this contract came before us with a scope of work. [6:12:06, 6:12:09]: And it included the scope of work. [6:12:09, 6:12:13]: And we approve of that for$250. [6:12:14, 6:12:16]: More than fifty thousand dollars. [6:12:17, 6:12:20]: Now it is coming back to us again. [6:12:21, 6:12:25]: asking for an a hundred a hundred and fifty thousand [6:12:25, 6:12:28]: For a scope of work. [6:12:28, 6:12:39]: that we have already approved now if you add two hundred and fifty thousand and a hundred and fifty thousand they said it was fifty thousand not a hundred and fifty thousand [6:12:40, 6:13:00]: 250,000 and 150,000. That comes up to 400. I don't even know what 300,000 came from. So if you add those two figures, it's 400,000. And in one of the documents, it taught it indicates 400,000. I don't know what 300,000 came from, but this is my point. And I think this is what we just need to do. [6:12:59, 6:13:02]: On September the twenty eighth. [6:13:03, 6:13:05]: Twenty twenty one. [6:13:05, 6:13:10]: We approved a scope of work that was inclusive. [6:13:11, 6:13:14]: Of all of the areas that I read. [6:13:14, 6:13:21]: And we approve of that contract for$250,000. That's what we approved. [6:13:21, 6:13:23]: Here tonight. [6:13:25, 6:13:28]: You're trying to come back with another contract. [6:13:29, 6:13:33]: to include the same scope of work that we approve. [6:13:34, 6:13:38]: And you want an additional hundred and fifty thousand. That's my issue. [6:13:39, 6:13:42]: That's my issue right there. Go back to [6:13:43, 6:13:49]: the minutes of September the 28th and you will see where this was approved. [6:13:49, 6:13:51]: That's the only point I'm trying to make. [6:13:51, 6:13:54]: Um, Dacius, would you like to speak to the scope of work? [6:13:54, 6:13:55]: No both. [6:13:56, 6:14:00]: Hold on. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. [6:14:01, 6:14:05]: Okay. I just I I want some clarifications and w this is what I wanna [6:14:06, 6:14:10]: Does anybody even care that Yellowstone is doing a great job? Very good job. They are. [6:14:11, 6:14:13]: They're doing a fantastic job. [6:14:14, 6:14:18]: That's what I want to focus on, the result. They're doing an amazing job. [6:14:19, 6:14:23]: Let's start right there. Now, okay, I want clarification on this. [6:14:24, 6:14:24]: Is it? [6:14:25, 6:14:30]: Fifty thousand dollars more or a hundred and fifty thousand dollars more, which one is it? [6:14:30, 6:14:49]: 150. No, it's she's saying you saying 150, she's saying the total contract is 300. Which one is it? Can the attorneys tell me the difference? Can somebody give me the right number? Now, if it's 150,000, that's a big deal. If it's 50,000, it's understandable. What is the number? [6:14:50, 6:14:56]: We're talking apples and oranges. Is the number 50,000 more or 150,000 more? [6:14:57, 6:15:10]: Darren, it was 50,000 more. And as I said, there was some additional services requested. You wanted to go from but it I know that. Is it 50,000 more or 150,000? [6:15:10, 6:15:27]: Um, he's saying that it's fifty thousand. Um, there is a typo in the second paragraph where it says one hundred and fifty thousand, but it should be fifty thousand, which brings it which brings it to an overall amount of three hundred thousand. [6:15:28, 6:15:35]: And this should have a title for$150,000. Come on. [6:15:35, 6:15:55]: Okay, okay. This is all we have first page. This is all we have to go on is Mr. Thomas, please. Get the let's get the attorneys in here. What does the contract dollar amount specify? Is there a typo in that line or not? Let's not get caught up on if somebody made a mistake or not. [6:15:55, 6:16:05]: Is there is the it it what Jeremy and Quentin is the overall effect it it somebody need to correct it if there's a hundred and fifty thousand dollar mistake. [6:16:05, 6:16:09]: That's terrible. Who i you do y'all have the contract in front of y'all? [6:16:12, 6:16:27]: Because if it's fifty thousand dollars more, that's a whole lot of different. That's what I'm trying to understand. One side is said 150,000, one side is saying fifty. If she says there's a typo, what is it? I need the number so I can decide. [6:16:29, 6:16:38]: Can I just mention something? I don't want to argue about who right or who's wrong. What is the right number? No, don't go figure out. Hold on a second, Mary Potem. [6:16:38, 6:16:50]: The right number is$300,000. When the city puts in that requisition for the purchase order for 2022, it would be a purchase order for$300,000 to Yellowstone. [6:16:50, 6:17:02]: So that that information you get is is an internal form. And that was a typo made on it. And but we know what the actual number is$300,000. It's not$400. [6:17:03, 6:17:23]: Because when we came back and added the public works building, even though we had it in the original scope, the landscaping hadn't been installed. That was a placeholder. So when the landscaping finally got installed, we met with Yellowstone at the Public Works Building. They gave us a price on that, in addition to the additional services for Pine Street. [6:17:23, 6:17:24]: Straw. [6:17:24, 6:17:31]: And that's why we increased the amount to cover the public works building and the additional visits for the pine straw. [6:17:32, 6:17:36]: I think the issue here is that you told us uh originally. [6:17:36, 6:17:39]: І за амфітеатр возінь. [6:17:39, 6:17:43]: And now I think that's kind of drawing some contention is that the amphitheater [6:17:44, 6:17:47]: appears to not be concluded, but what you're saying is that [6:17:47, 6:17:48]: The frequency [6:17:48, 6:17:52]: The amphitheater was included in in the other scope. [6:17:52, 6:17:54]: But in actuality, it's the frequency. [6:17:55, 6:17:56]: That increased [6:17:56, 6:17:58]: Uh in order to [6:17:58, 6:18:11]: do greater to to change out or to give greater services to that. But yes, sir. I just want uh you said you verified the three hundred thousand. The attorneys have you verified the three hundred thousand that's what this contract says. [6:18:15, 6:18:16]: Working on that now. [6:18:16, 6:18:18]: Okay, why the one? [6:18:18, 6:18:21]: What right, right. That's what I need to know to make [6:18:21, 6:18:23]: My decision cause I'm telling you. [6:18:23, 6:18:25]: They're doing a fantastic job. [6:18:26, 6:18:46]: And I don't want them to get caught into this mistake or whatever we got uh in order. It it's it's worth the amount of money. If it's fifty thousand dollars more, it's worth the fifty thousand dollars more because of the work that they're doing. And they'll be able to change out the pine straw in front of Stark Bridge Elementary, all of these different buildings. It'll make all of us look better. [6:18:46, 6:19:01]: better uh in the long run. But if it's 150,000, no, that ain't cool. So let's let's get that number out. Okay. All right. Mr. Thomas. Jeremy, it's on the second paragraph. Mayor Ford, you recognize me. Go ahead, Mr. Thomas. Mayor Pro Tem. [6:19:01, 6:19:05]: That that's your contention. Now this is my contention. [6:19:05, 6:19:08]: If I had not brought this up tonight. [6:19:09, 6:19:11]: We would have been approved. [6:19:12, 6:19:31]: An additional hundred and fifty thousand dollars. All we have as a council is what staff presents to us. And I have underlined here in the book that I that I was presented, it says right here in black and white. [6:19:32, 6:19:43]: The public works department is also requesting that the amount that the annual contract amount for landscaping maintenance increase. [6:19:44, 6:19:45]: By a hundred [6:19:45, 6:19:48]: And fifty thousand dollars. [6:19:49, 6:19:54]: I agree. You're right. Male Pro Tem. [6:19:55, 6:19:57]: This is unacceptable. [6:19:58, 6:20:04]: Because if I had not said anything tonight, we would have been approving. [6:20:05, 6:20:25]: 250,000 back in September the 28th, and tonight we would have been approved an additional hundred and fifty thousand with a total of four hundred thousand dollars. That is unacceptable for me, and I would not I would not vote for this tonight. We agree with that because it's not about the job that they're doing. [6:20:24, 6:20:35]: doing. Somebody has to look out for the interest of the city. And we hire staff to look out for the best interest of the city. And that did not happen in this case. [6:20:35, 6:20:40]: I think like she said, uh Miss Councilwoman Barber said is that there should have been some oversight. [6:20:40, 6:20:42]: Before and I think [6:20:42, 6:20:54]: You know, legal has to look in the middle of the study and be like what happened is that they missed the error too. So did they get it or not? No, but it i is it an error though? It's the error calling it out. [6:20:55, 6:20:56]: Hold on, too many people speaking. [6:20:57, 6:21:03]: All right. Um let's back up for a second. Hold on, Mr. Blount. Stand by. No, my resolution is too thick. [6:21:04, 6:21:17]: You're you you got two fifty on the resolution. Is that what you're saying, Mr. Quinn? All right. I'm we're looking at this now. We're looking at this now because I wrote the resolution. I take the what I take is what is presented to me off the agenda form. [6:21:17, 6:21:22]: or these after reviewing the contract and I ask for the contract because I always put exhibit a [6:21:23, 6:21:25]: based on the contract that they send me. [6:21:25, 6:21:26]: So [6:21:26, 6:21:26]: We have [6:21:27, 6:21:31]: on what I have, but I'm confirmed with Jeremy because he would have looked at the actual [6:21:31, 6:21:32]: Pure man. [6:21:32, 6:21:33]: Contract. [6:21:34, 6:21:39]: I write the resolutions asking him because I have on my resolution this in y'all's packet to me. [6:21:41, 6:21:43]: 'Cause that's what was submitted to me. [6:21:43, 6:21:45]: And we have for documentation for it. [6:21:45, 6:21:51]: But these other amounts, that's what I'm trying to ask him about. But I'll put mine on me. [6:21:51, 6:22:01]: Uh may Mayor, may I speak? Yeah, yeah, go ahead, Ms. Okay. I I'll just like to read the um section. It says um the public works department is also requesting that the annual contract amount [6:22:01, 6:22:16]: For a landscape maintenance increased by 150,000, as as Councilman Thomas um repeated, to accommodate the modified scope of services, which will include the additional buildings as uh Dacia stated. And then it said that um [6:22:16, 6:22:20]: The two banners and the historical markers for an estimated [6:22:20, 6:22:29]: for an S for an annual estimated overall contract amount of$300,000. And then on the first page of the actual agenda. [6:22:29, 6:22:36]: It says that the amount that count that the amount that council is proving is three hundred thousand dollars. [6:22:37, 6:22:39]: I just wanted to state that for the record. [6:22:39, 6:22:40]: All right, Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [6:22:41, 6:22:42]: Mayor, you know [6:22:44, 6:22:49]: We was told just just a while ago and and I would agree with Ms. Alexander, I mean that [6:22:49, 6:22:57]: For what I see around City Hall versus what we had been getting, it's like night and day. It's a bit I I'm I'm I'm proud to pass the buildings now. [6:22:58, 6:22:58]: Um [6:22:59, 6:23:06]: But they just said, Mr. Dacious and and procurement just said that under the the internal contract. [6:23:06, 6:23:08]: Has the amount. [6:23:08, 6:23:10]: Of three hundred thousand dollars. That's [6:23:10, 6:23:11]: Going [6:23:11, 6:23:13]: Two Yellowstones. [6:23:14, 6:23:18]: If there's a type or anything going, hey, you c we caught it. We caught this. [6:23:19, 6:23:26]: But that's not what internally contracted with Yellowstone is being said and been said several times, three hundred thousand dollars. [6:23:27, 6:23:30]: A fifty tausend dollars increase. [6:23:30, 6:23:50]: For services. What we're sitting here, we're arguing and going back and forth all, you know, it's getting late back and forth on this. Okay, you caught it, you got it. Hey, good catch. But they've already said the increase is$50,000. It's in writing$50,000. Jeremy just, uh Mr. Quentin just said he wrote a resolution for [6:23:50, 6:24:05]: They just ran off. It's only a$50,000 increase. We're either either gonna approve it or we're not, or we're gonna sit here and say, hey, what could have happened? But internally, it was only gonna be$300,000 and only a$50,000 increase. [6:24:06, 6:24:09]: So we're arguments hard on one end when [6:24:09, 6:24:13]: internally the contract is only gonna be three hundred thousand dollars. [6:24:14, 6:24:20]: All right, so I need I need a motion then on this asking. Mayor Ford, if I may. [6:24:20, 6:24:24]: Mirror. Okay. So if it was a mistake. [6:24:25, 6:24:37]: Where is it in this packet that we received tonight? Where is the contract language? Is it in this packet tonight where we could see that it's actual an additional 50,000? [6:24:38, 6:24:39]: Yeah, I thought she read that earlier. [6:24:40, 6:24:42]: I'm I'm talking about what we receive. [6:24:42, 6:24:49]: Okay, I'll let the council I'll let the attorneys read the way the contracts work. Um no [6:24:49, 6:24:55]: Let me let me prevent the information that we receive to study. [6:24:55, 6:24:58]: Is it in our packet for us to study and read? [6:24:58, 6:24:59]: Yes. [6:25:00, 6:25:01]: When I submit [6:25:02, 6:25:02]: Well if it [6:25:03, 6:25:05]: Let me would you like me to respond, sir? [6:25:05, 6:25:25]: No, I I just want to know is it in the packet that we received? Okay. So um on the agenda that I provided. Yes or no. Just yes or no. Come on, man. Nobody's on trial here. Come on, man. You know who gotta explain it? Oh man, you gotta have better control. I have the floor. Why are you [6:25:25, 6:25:32]: Horror phone. Hollering the loudest doesn't make it a bad Mayor. Right there doesn't make it through the bear. [6:25:32, 6:25:52]: Yes. Stand by, please. Stand by. Stand by everybody. Anyone stand by. Hold on. Do I have the floor? No. No, no, you don't. I have the floor right now. Stand by. Oh, stand by. Now listen, I believe I believe Miss Miller mentioned that I believe you said yes this is question. [6:25:52, 6:25:57]: Is that correct, Ms. Miller? [6:25:57, 6:26:02]: I I do feel Can you answer it a yes or can you answer it a yes or no? Because it's not a yes or no question. [6:26:03, 6:26:09]: What it's not a yes or no answer. I I do feel though that I am being bullied and attacked. [6:26:09, 6:26:16]: And um I do like to would like to state that for the record. However, let me um go ahead and um [6:26:16, 6:26:20]: Answer the question basically on the agenda. [6:26:20, 6:26:22]: As I stated and as I read. [6:26:23, 6:26:24]: It does show. [6:26:25, 6:26:31]: The agenda, which is what it which was what prepared, along with the actual contract agreement. [6:26:31, 6:26:40]: There would not be another amendment until after council approves it. So you would not have another contract. [6:26:41, 6:26:47]: what you have and that's why i asked for legal to provide their response because it's how contracts work [6:26:47, 6:26:52]: You have a contract that was approved by counsel back in September. [6:26:53, 6:26:53]: What [6:26:53, 6:27:02]: What the public works director is asking for is to increase and modify the existing contract. [6:27:02, 6:27:22]: That is 250,000. He's asking to exist it based on the modification of the scope of work. So you wouldn't, legal would not create another contract. What you would do is take your resolution once council has approved it and amend the existing contract. [6:27:22, 6:27:38]: after it's approved. So you wouldn't have a backup document, another contract that says 300,000, because you're amending the existing contract. And I'll ask legal to go ahead and add to the legal advice of that. [6:27:38, 6:27:39]: Okay. [6:27:40, 6:27:46]: Right. Does the legal have anything else to say on this that's right. I mean that's correct. And ordinarily when there's a renewal [6:27:46, 6:27:49]: The procurement department just sends like a one paragraph [6:27:50, 6:27:52]: One pager that just says the contract has been renewed. [6:27:53, 6:27:56]: And then we would change the scope in any cost terms as well. [6:27:57, 6:27:58]: All right. [6:27:59, 6:27:59]: All right. [6:28:00, 6:28:05]: All right, Miss Barber, we'll make this the last comment. We need to move on because we got plenty more to still do. [6:28:05, 6:28:15]: Yes. Thank you, Mayor. Um, I'd like for us to move on from this. There's no action for the council to take. Furthermore, Mayor Ford, I want to ask. [6:28:15, 6:28:17]: During our meetings. [6:28:17, 6:28:19]: This is an opportunity for the governing body. [6:28:20, 6:28:22]: To discuss the items on the agenda. [6:28:23, 6:28:25]: Oftentimes we kind of [6:28:25, 6:28:31]: blur the lines when we invite staff into the governing bodies discussions. [6:28:31, 6:28:34]: All we need is for staff to present the items. [6:28:34, 6:28:35]: Present the items. [6:28:35, 6:28:37]: And allow the council. [6:28:37, 6:28:39]: To discuss them. [6:28:39, 6:28:40]: Debate them. [6:28:40, 6:28:43]: So that staff doesn't get offended. [6:28:43, 6:28:44]: But [6:28:44, 6:28:46]: the heated arguments going back and forth. [6:28:47, 6:28:52]: I appreciate you, Ms. Miller, for your input into this discussion. However, [6:28:52, 6:28:55]: I'm looking at the staff recommendation form, David. [6:28:55, 6:28:57]: December thirteenth. [6:28:58, 6:29:03]: And just looking at the staff recommendation forms, it clearly says [6:29:04, 6:29:06]: contract approval and renewal. [6:29:07, 6:29:09]: is misleading. It also has the amount of [6:29:10, 6:29:11]: Four hundred thousand dollars on here. [6:29:12, 6:29:13]: It's all misleading. [6:29:14, 6:29:16]: I've asked for the fully executed. [6:29:17, 6:29:19]: Counter sign contracts. [6:29:20, 6:29:21]: That's not included here. [6:29:21, 6:29:29]: We need the fully executed contract and not all the other information and all the other minutiae. [6:29:29, 6:29:33]: Too much details here, which is why it's important. [6:29:33, 6:29:35]: For the city attorneys. [6:29:35, 6:29:42]: To review these. This is conversations that the attorneys and staff should have before it comes to the governing body. [6:29:43, 6:29:51]: Council member, I have reviewed this, and you've previously asked for the RFPs. So the RFPs have been included in here, and I have reviewed this. [6:29:52, 6:29:58]: Thank you, sir. But I'd like for us to just move on from this item. There's no action for the council to take at this time. [6:29:59, 6:30:01]: We know that even with the [6:30:02, 6:30:03]: added services that [6:30:04, 6:30:05]: Miss Miller mentioned. [6:30:06, 6:30:26]: Um it's for the amphitheater. Well, we still have time. This contract is still way accurate. We got fifty thousand dollars more than services. I'm I'm that's my thought. I thought that it has to be increased by fifty thousand dollars to handle everything. It goes three hundred thousand. I'm not trying to make this personal [6:30:26, 6:30:29]: If I can finish, I don't see any indication. [6:30:30, 6:30:33]: Um of a request for fifty thousand dollars. So I'd like for us to table it. [6:30:33, 6:30:37]: table it and bring us back a clean agenda with [6:30:37, 6:30:45]: the item description that staff is looking for the council to take action on. So I make a motion that we table this. [6:30:45, 6:30:52]: um until then asked for a motion there um don't talk over me i'm not finished i like to make a motion [6:30:52, 6:30:57]: that we table this and direct staff to bring us back. [6:30:57, 6:30:59]: Um the information. [6:31:00, 6:31:01]: For the fifty thousand dollars. [6:31:03, 6:31:04]: Is there a second to the motion? [6:31:05, 6:31:06]: Is there a second to the motion? [6:31:08, 6:31:18]: Mr. Blount, what is your motion? That we approve. Hold a second. Hold on please. Mr. Thomas, you second that motion? [6:31:19, 6:31:23]: You you s I don't have no choice but to second'cause this is incorrect. [6:31:24, 6:31:28]: Stand by Mr. Blount. All right. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [6:31:31, 6:31:32]: I'll pose. [6:31:33, 6:31:35]: I'll pose the motion, please indicate. [6:31:36, 6:31:37]: Abstain. [6:31:37, 6:31:38]: Thursday. [6:31:39, 6:31:47]: Ms. Blount, you miss Mr. Blount, you sustain? Yes. And Mr. Pro Mayor Proton, you sustain as well. I'm going to stay from this vote. [6:31:47, 6:31:52]: Okay. Yeah, I like to make the most tip. [6:31:52, 6:32:01]: I'd like to make the motion to approve the contract for the amount of$300,000. Okay. Only the$50,000 increase. [6:32:02, 6:32:06]: So I like to approve the contract for three hundred thousand dollars. [6:32:06, 6:32:06]: No. [6:32:07, 6:32:10]: With with only that three hundred thousand with only that fifty thousand dollar increase. [6:32:11, 6:32:13]: Okay, the motion's been made. Is there a second? [6:32:13, 6:32:15]: I have a question. [6:32:15, 6:32:25]: What's your question? Miss Miller, have you acknowledged that you made a mistake on this contract and that the total amount is three hundred thousand and that that was the initial attempt? [6:32:26, 6:32:39]: Yes, the initial intent is 300,000 and the increase is 50,000 for the additional scope of services. Mr. Ayer, is this scope of work necessary in order to get the level of um [6:32:40, 6:32:45]: services that we have um aspired to uh in in the city. [6:32:46, 6:32:56]: Yes, sir. As I mentioned earlier, this includes additional services as well as the public works building because when this was awarded, that landscaping had not been completed. [6:32:57, 6:32:57]: So [6:32:59, 6:33:01]: And and your intent was to have this to be [6:33:02, 6:33:13]: uh uh uh three hundred thousand dollars. If that was the initial intent that you discussed with Miss Miller that it was gonna be three hundred thousand dollars. That was the intent of y'all communication between the two of y'all. [6:33:14, 6:33:15]: And Mr. Knighton, yes it was. [6:33:16, 6:33:18]: And Mr. Knight can verify this as well. [6:33:19, 6:33:23]: He's not online, sir. Well I'm sure he could at some point if we reached out to him. [6:33:24, 6:33:32]: So you said Mr. Knight was involved in discussion, you was involved in discussion, Lindell was involved in the discussion, is that correct? Yes. [6:33:34, 6:33:46]: On the motion made a second. Yes, sir. Uh Mrs. Ms. Councilwoman Barber made a motion. I a second. What what was the vote on that? The vote was uh two two for and two abstain. [6:33:47, 6:34:03]: And and as you well know, Miss you and Miss Barber understand the option of abstain abstentions. I can't I I I just no I I just didn't know what to vote. I never did hear that and I couldn't really see. But just can I when my final comment says a motion has been made and I guess we're discussing, is that correct? [6:34:03, 6:34:15]: Well motion made and we are in discussion now, but emotion had we we can be in discussion, sir, but motion has been made to make this contract three hundred thousand dollars. Oh made in a second. I just want to make a comment because see. [6:34:15, 6:34:18]: I'm not questioning the work of Yellowstone. [6:34:19, 6:34:22]: I'm trying to hold folks accountable. [6:34:22, 6:34:24]: Because that's important to me. [6:34:25, 6:34:29]: If I had said if I had not said anything tonight. [6:34:29, 6:34:31]: What would we have approved? [6:34:32, 6:34:35]: See and and those are the issues that I have. [6:34:35, 6:34:36]: No. [6:34:36, 6:34:38]: If I had not said anything. [6:34:39, 6:34:42]: Was this gonna come to our attention say, okay, a mistake I've been made? [6:34:43, 6:34:50]: That's the only problem that I have with it. It's not about the work of Yellowstone. It's about the documents. [6:34:51, 6:34:55]: that we get as a council to be able to make decisions. [6:34:56, 6:35:00]: And if the and we cannot rely on the information [6:35:01, 6:35:06]: And we cannot rely on the information in this big old book here. [6:35:06, 6:35:10]: What what do we have to make an inform? [6:35:10, 6:35:11]: Correct. [6:35:12, 6:35:18]: Decision if we cannot depend on this and where's the check and balances? [6:35:18, 6:35:21]: So and if I had not mentioned this tonight. [6:35:22, 6:35:27]: W were we going to pay Yellowstone$400,000? I question that. [6:35:29, 6:35:49]: All right. Anyway, so the motion's been made, been hold on one second. Answer that question, the attorney has said that the contract calls for three hundred thousand dollar payment. So they wouldn't have been paid four hundred thousand dollars. It was a mistake or a typo in the contract. Is that correct? Now that's my understanding. But we have not seen it. [6:35:49, 6:35:50]: We don't know. [6:35:51, 6:36:00]: Uh Mr Mr. Uh Jeremy, is that the case that no matter what happened in this situation, they would have been paid three hundred thousand dollars based on. [6:36:01, 6:36:02]: Correct. [6:36:02, 6:36:17]: Right. Okay. That's what my contention is, is that I I agree with you, Councilman Thomas, and everything that you said, but I don't want this vendor to get caught in the middle of this dispute, which is it's not their fault that the staff made an error. [6:36:18, 6:36:21]: Because and then Mr Mr Mr Aaron has said [6:36:22, 6:36:22]: That uh [6:36:23, 6:36:28]: He talked to Lindell and they talked about this and the number that they talked about was 300,000. [6:36:28, 6:36:32]: The effect in the end is that they made a mistake. [6:36:32, 6:36:52]: And somebody has acknowledged that they made the mistake. I just heard a video of Miss Lindell said she acknowledged that they made the mistake. Now this mistake it shouldn't happen again because we've had we just caught this. We can't have this type of work take place in the city. But in the end, this is this is we we this was a staff error that should have never happened. [6:36:52, 6:36:55]: Mereford, if I had not called this out. [6:36:55, 6:37:01]: we would have we would we this council would have never known about this that's the point i'm trying to make you're right [6:37:02, 6:37:06]: Well the motion's been made, been a second. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [6:37:09, 6:37:20]: Mr. Blount, what's okay? Three. Uh Mr. Thomas, you of uh you're no ten. I vote I vote no. You vote no? Okay, and Miss Gantt. [6:37:22, 6:37:26]: Anyway, motion passes uh three one. [6:37:28, 6:37:30]: Three one. All right. It passes three one. [6:37:32, 6:37:42]: All right. Uh request for proposal RFP number twenty twenty one-zero zero zero eight. Annual on-call sidewalk repairs and replacement. Once again. [6:37:42, 6:37:44]: Miss Miller and Mr. Aaron. [6:37:46, 6:37:48]: Good afternoon once again, Mayor and Council. [6:37:49, 6:38:09]: Um uh the City of Stockbridge procurement division is requesting approval to award a fixed contract to the single bidder DAF Concrete RFP number 2021 for the City of Stockbridge annual on-call sidewalk repairs and replacement in the estimated annual amount of$150,000. [6:38:09, 6:38:09]: Yes. [6:38:12, 6:38:12]: Okay. [6:38:13, 6:38:15]: Ms. Aaron, do you have anything you need to add? [6:38:15, 6:38:33]: Yes, Mr. Mayor. In 2019, the city had an updated uh street assessment done and one of the requests was to have sidewalks as a part of that assessment. So we went in and had sidewalks assessed and the sidewalks are rated and ranked according to their conditions. [6:38:33, 6:38:38]: And the city wants to get into a program of replacing and repairing sidewalks. [6:38:38, 6:38:39]: And [6:38:40, 6:38:44]: You could either hire the skill or contract for the skill. [6:38:44, 6:38:50]: based on conversation with other municipalities and doing salary surveys for what a good concrete [6:38:50, 6:38:54]: Finisher with cost, we found that it was cheaper to. [6:38:54, 6:39:14]: contract out the replacement and repair of sidewalks in the city. So there are numerous sidewalks in the city. We'll do it similar to the LMIG. We'll have a specific length of sidewalk that we replace every year going forward. So we'll have a crew that can come out and and do these in an expeditious manner so that we get them done and completed. [6:39:14, 6:39:14]: Yeah. [6:39:15, 6:39:18]: All right, any questions, uh counsel? [6:39:19, 6:39:20]: Questions, concerns? [6:39:21, 6:39:24]: And if not, I need a motion to accept this particular proposal. [6:39:26, 6:39:33]: Is there a motion? Yes, sir. Uh Mr. Aaron, you say it's similar to the LMAX, but how how is that determination going to be made? [6:39:33, 6:39:35]: through staff or whoever's gonna be doing it. [6:39:35, 6:39:39]: Is based on the rankings from the sidewalk assessment. [6:39:39, 6:39:40]: All right. [6:39:40, 6:39:43]: The side of the side was will be placed on [6:39:43, 6:39:44]: The list. [6:39:46, 6:39:47]: I motion would approve it, man. [6:39:48, 6:39:53]: You you okay make you're making a motion to approve, Mr. Blount. Is there a second? I'd second. [6:39:53, 6:39:57]: Ms. Barber Seconds, any further discussion? And if not, all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [6:39:59, 6:40:05]: Okay, if a four uh confirmed with four black passing votes. Um [6:40:05, 6:40:10]: Miss Holliday, I guess uh Miss uh Gantt has departed. I don't see her on here. [6:40:11, 6:40:28]: And I have no idea. She was not present for the last item maintenance. Okay. All right. Okay. What's next? We have uh the request for proposal, RFP number 2020-0025, janitorial maintenance services, intercontinental commercial services. Ms. Miller and Mr. Aaron, please. [6:40:29, 6:40:36]: Uh uh Mayor Council, I think that was one that we decided not to go with, or are we going forward with it? I'm confused. [6:40:36, 6:40:39]: This is the one that that does inspire in in April as well. [6:40:39, 6:40:43]: This is the one with the legal opinion by the attorney. [6:40:43, 6:40:44]: Yeah, we can move on. [6:40:46, 6:40:48]: So we're not we're not dealing with this one right now, tonight. [6:40:49, 6:40:50]: All right. [6:40:50, 6:41:08]: 17 we took off number 18 request for proposal RFP number 2021-0001P Omnia Partners Public Sector Prince Williams Public Schools contract number RT 17006 and Amazon Services LLC [6:41:08, 6:41:10]: Mr. Wiggins and Miss Miller. [6:41:11, 6:41:30]: Yes, um the finance department um uh is requesting approval to piggyback the um Omnia Partners Public Sector, which is a cooperative contract which was solicited um by numerous government entities. And they're asking the contract once awarded was awarded to Amazon. [6:41:30, 6:41:40]: The city is asking to piggyback that contract in order to utilize the contract and get better pricing as the cooperative allows. [6:41:40, 6:41:41]: And um [6:41:41, 6:41:46]: With Amazon. This contract as it is awarded by the cooperative. [6:41:46, 6:41:50]: Is for uh three year. I do apologize, um. [6:41:50, 6:42:07]: It it's through Jan 2022 with the option to renew for three additional two one year periods. The city is asking to increase this contract, which was approved initially by the city manager for 25,000. [6:42:07, 6:42:15]: So we're approaching it for$75,000, which gives it an overall contract value of$100,000. [6:42:17, 6:42:17]: Okay. [6:42:19, 6:42:23]: Um council, any questions, concerns about this uh proposal? [6:42:26, 6:42:29]: Mr. Wiggins, your name is on us. You got any additional comments, sir? [6:42:30, 6:42:33]: No, I don't have any additional comments. [6:42:33, 6:42:36]: All right, council, I need a uh motion to approve this uh proposal. [6:42:39, 6:42:43]: So move there. All right, okay. So move, Mr. Blount. Thank you. Is there a second? [6:42:45, 6:42:46]: Is there a second? [6:42:47, 6:42:48]: Sorry. [6:42:48, 6:42:49]: Mr. Mayor Pro Temp Seconds that. [6:42:50, 6:42:53]: I would imagine no further comments. So all in favor of motion, please indicate. [6:42:56, 6:42:58]: Uh Paul this this [6:42:59, 6:42:59]: All opposed? [6:43:00, 6:43:08]: All right, if it's if it's two to two, I've I approved it. So I might I'll be the third vote to approve this. Okay. Three to two. Excuse me. [6:43:09, 6:43:15]: Mayor Ford, I'd like to add a comment just for the record. All right. It passes three, two. Um uh Ms. [6:43:15, 6:43:20]: Vanessa Holliday and Miss Barber, you have a comment. Go ahead, please. [6:43:21, 6:43:24]: Mayor Ford, if I could correct the vote. What do you mean? [6:43:25, 6:43:28]: Um I I was slow. I actually voted in favor. [6:43:30, 6:43:35]: But I was just slow, but I just wanted to go on record to say I I voted in favor. [6:43:36, 6:43:36]: Okay. [6:43:37, 6:43:57]: All right. Add a comment if I may. So let me get this straight now. We okay, we had two two, so we I need to take a revote on this. Is that is that what we need to do here? It's it passed, man. Well it did pass. I'm just trying to uh it did pass. I mean, I mean it put it on the voted for it, so basically [6:43:57, 6:44:13]: Mayor Ford, I was distracted. Um, I I thought I heard someone knock at my door, so I really wasn't listening. And I I turned my head and and the vote went through and I was trying to raise my hand actually to to abstain. [6:44:14, 6:44:23]: Cause I just didn't hear any of the conversation. So I I just apologize for that. But let me just go on record and just abstain. And then I'm sure it's still gonna pass. [6:44:25, 6:44:38]: No, no, it's it then we gotta mayor he if if if you already close okay I'll tell you what the vote is already taken the vote's already taken votes already taken it passed three to two miss barber your your comment please [6:44:38, 6:44:44]: Yes, according to the staff recommendation, it says the initial term of this contract. [6:44:44, 6:44:46]: Shall be from the date of the award [6:44:47, 6:44:48]: January nineteenth. [6:44:49, 6:44:50]: Twenty seven teen. [6:44:51, 6:44:52]: through January eighteenth. [6:44:53, 6:44:54]: Oh, twenty twenty two. [6:44:55, 6:44:57]: With the option to renew. [6:44:57, 6:44:59]: For three additional [6:44:59, 6:45:01]: Two year periods. [6:45:03, 6:45:05]: I'm opposing because. [6:45:06, 6:45:08]: These kind these types of contracts. [6:45:08, 6:45:10]: With the multi year [6:45:11, 6:45:13]: Contracts to renew this again. [6:45:14, 6:45:15]: It's going to [6:45:15, 6:45:16]: Um [6:45:16, 6:45:19]: This will be a six-year contract. [6:45:21, 6:45:22]: So we'll be [6:45:22, 6:45:25]: I don't know, the sixth or seventh year before it goes back out. [6:45:26, 6:45:26]: To be [6:45:26, 6:45:27]: Rebid it again. [6:45:28, 6:45:29]: And I do not like. [6:45:30, 6:45:36]: renewing and extending contracts with these multi year terms. That's all. [6:45:36, 6:45:42]: Okay, noted, well noted. Number nineteen, may I just um just to clarify? [6:45:42, 6:45:43]: Um [6:45:43, 6:45:49]: This is a cooperative contract. This is not a contract which was bid out by the city. [6:45:49, 6:45:54]: So the terms of this contract was generated by the co-op. [6:45:54, 6:46:06]: meaning it was generated by Prince William's public school contract system and we're just asking to use their contract. So the term is something that we cannot control. [6:46:06, 6:46:09]: And when we decide [6:46:10, 6:46:16]: That we don't need to renew italize it, we don't have to, but we're just asking to piggyback. [6:46:16, 6:46:31]: their contract terms and conditions, which we cannot change because when we piggyback, it's based on the terms and conditions by this company, by this co-op. So we cannot control their terms of the contract. We just don't have to use it. [6:46:32, 6:46:51]: Okay, thank you. Let's move on. Workers Compensation Policy, WCB 103338. Excuse me, one is one zero three three three eight. JC Smith Linear and Company Brokers Renewal presented by Miss Miller and Miss Wheeler, who's still on the line. Outstanding. [6:46:51, 6:46:52]: Ladies, please. [6:46:53, 6:47:13]: Good afternoon, once again, Mayor and Council. The Human Resources Department is requesting approval to renew the workers' compensation policy for J. Smith Lanier, policy number WCB 1033338, which was approved by council on December 22nd, 2020. [6:47:13, 6:47:20]: Of the actual proposal was submitted. And with that being said, I'll have Renee to go ahead and explain the workers' compensation. [6:47:22, 6:47:29]: The workers compensation proposal submitted to mayor and council is to renew uh workers' comp. [6:47:30, 6:47:32]: Um, for this city. [6:47:32, 6:47:33]: to offer [6:47:33, 6:47:35]: um insurance and [6:47:36, 6:47:37]: Um [6:47:39, 6:47:42]: Well being for the employee if there's a workplace injury. [6:47:43, 6:47:45]: This is presented by Jay Smith Lanier. [6:47:45, 6:47:48]: They have gone out to contract, uh gone out to bid. [6:47:49, 6:47:51]: Or w really not to bid, but to the market. [6:47:52, 6:47:54]: Um, this is a fair renewal. [6:47:54, 6:47:57]: We've received a twenty percent discount on our premium. [6:47:58, 6:48:02]: Um we are using encova insurance as the [6:48:02, 6:48:08]: company that will handle our workers comp claims through them. We didn't have any claims last year. [6:48:08, 6:48:15]: due to the COVID 2020, but they came back and decreased the premium to us for this year. [6:48:16, 6:48:21]: So I'm asking council's approval of this professional services agreement and [6:48:21, 6:48:23]: Compensation insurance. [6:48:24, 6:48:25]: Yes, Miss Barber. [6:48:25, 6:48:36]: Mayor Ford, I like to well, quick question. Um Ms. Wheeler, um, is this the first um renewal or extension that you're requesting? [6:48:40, 6:48:43]: This is a renewal for January first, twenty twenty two. [6:48:44, 6:48:47]: Is this the very first renewal that you're requesting? [6:48:47, 6:48:49]: For this particular [6:48:51, 6:48:52]: Contract. [6:48:53, 6:49:01]: It's not a contract, it's an agreement, a professional services agreement. It's an agreement. It's the first renewal you're requesting for this agreement. [6:49:03, 6:49:04]: For this year. [6:49:05, 6:49:07]: Yes, it it was signed last [6:49:07, 6:49:08]: Of twenty twenty. [6:49:09, 6:49:09]: Okay. [6:49:10, 6:49:14]: Mayorford, I will make a motion to approve this. Um [6:49:15, 6:49:17]: I'll make a motion to approve this. [6:49:18, 6:49:19]: Um renovable. [6:49:19, 6:49:22]: Okay, is there is there a second Ms. Miracle second that? [6:49:22, 6:49:24]: Okay, all in favor, please indicate. [6:49:27, 6:49:32]: Okay, all four of you appreciate that. Thank you for your comments, Mr. Berry. Thank you, Miss Wheeler. It is approved. [6:49:33, 6:49:46]: Okay, we'll move on. Council consideration approved the purchase of 40 mobile data data terminals terminals, MDTs, printers, and associated equipment for police patrol vehicles. Chief Tramor. [6:49:46, 6:49:47]: Marty. [6:49:49, 6:49:50]: Let's go, Tree. What you got? [6:49:51, 6:49:56]: Yeah. Well we are at the uh we are at the end of the rope here, so um [6:49:58, 6:49:59]: Yeah. [6:49:59, 6:50:14]: Uh well I I had some things that I wanted to share with you, but uh I think everybody's probably ready to hop off here. Um and so just for the sake of brevity and and the time that we've already spent here, uh let me just uh we'll get down and dirty on this. Um [6:50:14, 6:50:21]: We are looking uh to purchase 40 mobile data terminals and uh associated [6:50:21, 6:50:28]: equipment to which would be docking stations basically to secure those computers inside the patrol vehicles along with um [6:50:28, 6:50:48]: uh pocket jet printers to print out citations and any other paperwork the officers would need to print out in the vehicles. Uh the cost for those 40 computers, and I believe this is associated or attached with uh the information it um was associated with uh this agenda item a total cost$132,295 and twenty cents. [6:50:49, 6:50:55]: Uh the funding source for this would be uh ARPA. It would be associated equipment again that um [6:50:56, 6:50:57]: Is um [6:50:57, 6:51:00]: For the vehicles, the police vehicles. [6:51:00, 6:51:08]: And um I wanted to let y'all know that uh Mr. Wiggins had provided an update regarding the current ARPA funding balance. [6:51:08, 6:51:09]: Mm-hmm. [6:51:09, 6:51:09]: The [6:51:10, 6:51:30]: uh police department uh purchases that have already been um authorized via ARPA funds, as well as outstanding public works uh projects. Uh the balance uh ARPA funding balance is one million three hundred and twenty seven thousand dollars. So less than one hundred thirty two thousand two ninety five it would [6:51:29, 6:51:47]: uh leave our remaining balance for this year. And that does not include the additional five and a half million that would be coming in next year, but leave the remaining balance at$1.1 million in ARPA funding from now until we receive that additional money. [6:51:48, 6:51:49]: So um [6:51:50, 6:52:10]: This is uh on uh the these Panasonic computers are on state contract, and the state contract uh that was referenced, I believe that was uh attached as well. It was the state of Georgia in user computing contract, and that contract number uh was identified there. And so I'm seeking approval for again$132,295.20 for the [6:52:10, 6:52:16]: purchase of those computers. Just to make sure everybody's aware, this also has been uh uh [6:52:17, 6:52:24]: uh vetted through IT uh since it is IT purchase. So I I I would I would like to thank or hope that [6:52:24, 6:52:27]: Um there are no questions about this. [6:52:28, 6:52:30]: Well I'll ask the question. Early questions, counsel. [6:52:32, 6:52:35]: All right, no questions. I need a motion to accept his proposal. [6:52:35, 6:52:36]: So moon. [6:52:36, 6:52:37]: Is there a second? [6:52:40, 6:52:42]: From Mare Pro Temp to who? What a second. [6:52:45, 6:52:49]: Oh, okay. I can't second it, folks. So who's gonna second this? [6:52:50, 6:52:53]: Oh Miss Barber. Fantastic. This is a second. [6:52:53, 6:53:04]: All right, so I imagine there's no further conversation. So all right, yeah, I heard we got some police cars in. Is that true? Well you're gonna you're gonna make you you're gonna make out there. [6:53:04, 6:53:07]: I am gonna call for the vote. All in favor of motion, please indicate. [6:53:08, 6:53:14]: Okay, now okay, he just put him up there. I'm as soon as four of you because I can't [6:53:14, 6:53:16]: Yeah, okay. Uh [6:53:17, 6:53:32]: Okay. Whoa, these are all police vehicles. Whoa, okay. Sure. Is Mr. Blount on online? I vote. I my vote is yes if you can't. I I I saw you, sir. I saw you, Mr. Thomas. May I'm trying to hear the uh what was the what was the uh [6:53:33, 6:53:47]: What was the motion? The motion to accept uh uh tree pre trammer's uh proposal was 132,000 plus to purchase this I IT equipment for the mobile for all the vehicles that he needs. That's from the author funding? Yes, sir. That's correct. [6:53:47, 6:54:07]: So you you're you're approval of that. Is that is that well? Is that right? Yes. Okay. So you allow him to approve it after the votes have all been taken, but you wouldn't allow Councilman Thomas. Hey, well, I'm I'm the mayor right now. I can't right now. I'll approve the mayor. No problem. Four. Four four people approved this. Okay. All right. Now listen, uh, on that note. [6:54:07, 6:54:12]: Did you wanna show this for you got this briefing up there? Did you wanna go further with that chief? Is that what's happening here? [6:54:12, 6:54:23]: No, we're making some progress. One of the things that I did want to mention, uh just just for council consideration here, is that um we still have a lot of purchasing to do between now and implementation. [6:54:24, 6:54:29]: And the way that the current uh procurement uh policy is written, and I believe there's a resolution that was made. [6:54:30, 6:54:36]: by Mr. Knighton, uh, was that any purchase over twenty five thousand dollars needs to come before council for consideration. [6:54:36, 6:54:43]: Uh between now and April when many of these purchases are needed to be made, we're we're looking at about eight council meetings and so [6:54:43, 6:54:56]: There's some concern as to um, especially with uh agenda timelines and so on and so forth, about getting all these things before the council um in a timely manner for them to uh for you all to consider that. [6:54:57, 6:55:07]: There's been some discussion and one of the things I wanted to mention, I spoke with um a friend of mine. I believe you are acquainted with him, Chief uh uh Grogan with Dunwoody Police Department. [6:55:07, 6:55:12]: And when they were starting up the Dunwadi Police Department, there was an emergency, uh there was a waiver. [6:55:12, 6:55:15]: Uh for um uh [6:55:15, 6:55:23]: Public safety purchases for a limited period of time in order to allow them to move forward quickly with the acquisition of the equipment that's needed. [6:55:23, 6:55:41]: And so it's something that I know that that perhaps you all uh are not wanting to discuss right now, but something that uh we would like to discuss in the future in terms of how we may be able to accomplish that. One of the things, and I know we've uh I've spoken with Mayor Ford in his capacity of city manager as well as Ms. Mr. Berry. [6:55:41, 6:55:44]: And uh as well as Miss Miller, um [6:55:44, 6:55:49]: That um most of the the purchases that we're gonna have to make are over that twenty five thousand dollar threshold. [6:55:49, 6:55:54]: which would necessitate in would which would necessitate them coming before the council. [6:55:54, 6:56:08]: However, we know what it is that we need. So say for instance, we know we're gonna need ammunition at roughly fifty thousand dollars. We know we're gonna need weapons at about sixty thousand, sixty to seventy thousand. We're gonna need um a a number of items that we can give. [6:56:08, 6:56:13]: And which we did present when we went over the uh capital startup costs. [6:56:13, 6:56:33]: So uh was hoping to to get some sort of uh maybe resolution before the council in the future to grant a limited approval for certain police department startup costs not to exceed a specified amount so that we can move forward with these uh in a timely fashion. Again, not circumventing any procurement processes. I'm confident that many of the things [6:56:33, 6:56:53]: Things that uh we need, we will be able to procure uh off of state contract or uh through piggybacking or uh other uh approved means that would not require us to put these items out the bid. But I do have some concern if if, especially with this time frame and the council only meeting twice a month, us being able to get all the associated. [6:56:53, 6:57:00]: Documentation and everything to council for approval over the next couple of months. So just something to consider. [6:57:01, 6:57:02]: Yeah, uh Mayor Protein, go ahead, please. [6:57:03, 6:57:09]: Yeah, Chief, rest assured we're thinking uh in that aspect and once we have our new city manager. [6:57:09, 6:57:11]: uh in house that we [6:57:11, 6:57:14]: We certainly can give the new city manager the latitude. [6:57:15, 6:57:31]: uh to move forward with these police purchases. So I would think that would probably be the avenue uh that we would use uh and and giving the new city manager discretion uh in order to uh move these forward versus um uh delaying the process so [6:57:31, 6:57:35]: I think uh if we get the person that we think we may get. [6:57:35, 6:57:39]: then this person might uh will be empowered to do a lot of things. So [6:57:40, 6:57:45]: Uh let's just uh let's just wait and see. But we're not gonna slow you up. We're gonna make sure it works for you. [6:57:46, 6:57:56]: And I I got an additional comment to that. Uh in the meantime, I would think counsel those things that he needs to be approved in can still come to me and I can get them done and we can move it forward. [6:57:56, 6:58:00]: Absolutely. Absolutely. Any uh anything else, Chief? [6:58:01, 6:58:13]: Is that it? No, that's it. I did want to give y'all so you can kind of see we came up with a conceptual design for the police vehicles. Um, this is kind of I know it's a little rough, but this is uh what we anticipate they'll look like. [6:58:13, 6:58:26]: Um if you can see there, we'll implement some of the branding element from the city's current logo into those vehicles. Those stripes will basically be reversed to look more along the lines of the Stockbridge logo, but um [6:58:26, 6:58:31]: This is what we envision the vehicles will look like when we get them fully outfitted and and and striped out. [6:58:32, 6:58:32]: Outstanding. [6:58:33, 6:58:33]: Okay. [6:58:33, 6:58:36]: I don't know, we might have to talk about that, see. [6:58:36, 6:58:36]: Mm-hmm. [6:58:38, 6:58:39]: Yeah. [6:58:39, 6:58:40]: Yes, sir. [6:58:40, 6:58:41]: Chief. [6:58:42, 6:58:45]: Yes, sir. Is that the actual law? Is that the [6:58:45, 6:58:48]: Is it gonna is it gonna be blocked like that? [6:58:49, 6:59:05]: No, no, no. That was that was that was covering up uh the uh this is this is a scheme that's uh that's utilized by the Toronto Police Department. And so we had looked at a number of different um uh options and uh had some discussion amongst our uh our team. [6:59:05, 6:59:11]: And uh we're actually working with uh graphic designer right now to come up with a couple of mock-ups for the vehicle. [6:59:12, 6:59:16]: Uh but I did want to share with you all just kind of conceptually um what we're what we're looking at. [6:59:17, 6:59:17]: So [6:59:19, 6:59:25]: Maybe yes, sir. Well, could is it possible that you might be able to provide us with a couple of [6:59:26, 6:59:30]: examples or maybe so the council can have some input on what they look like. [6:59:34, 6:59:39]: Or will there be a couple of different designs or you tell me? I mean, there are gonna be a couple of different options we can look at. [6:59:43, 6:59:55]: Yeah, we can present uh if if if you have some ideas, uh feel free to shoot them over our way. Uh I mean if you right, if you're working with a designer, then maybe they could do a couple of different options. [6:59:56, 7:00:02]: uh for us to you know to look at. I mean there I just if we could that that would be great. [7:00:04, 7:00:05]: Okay, we'll see what we can do. [7:00:06, 7:00:07]: Anything else? That's it? [7:00:08, 7:00:12]: But but not up not up to me. How about the rest of the council? Y'all wanna have input or no? [7:00:14, 7:00:15]: Well uh [7:00:15, 7:00:17]: For me, uh Chief, I think that [7:00:18, 7:00:29]: I think whatever you see, Chief, you're gonna probably look at two or three that you're gonna say, Hey, uh uh, I could go with either one of those. And if that's the case, then I'm fine with the council taking a look at it. But if you see one that you actually [7:00:30, 7:00:35]: Wanna go with, you know, I I I think the discretion is on you for you know, far as I'm concerned. [7:00:35, 7:00:41]: Uh uh I don't know, you know, I don't know, I don't know how this worked at all. So [7:00:43, 7:00:54]: Yeah. Personally I feel confident that the chief will come up with a great great the logo, great, great way to put it on the cars. You know, so I I I mean, I I look forward to him coming up with a good design, him and his team, personally. [7:00:56, 7:00:57]: Anybody else? [7:00:59, 7:01:08]: Um I'm sure I'll be satisfied with any logo other than the cabin logo that he's been using with the train and [7:01:08, 7:01:10]: Certain tree. [7:01:11, 7:01:30]: Anything else y'all are y'all are hating on my designs and I'll tell you this, we wanted to be a little different. We wanted to to have our department a little different than everybody else, which is why we went with the carbonized gray. Uh as you the typically you see a lot of black. Henry County's got silver. So we wanted something that stood out. And then I'm a traditionalist, which is why I like the uh the two-tone. [7:01:30, 7:01:33]: uh on the vehicles. That's that that's kinda got some history in it. [7:01:34, 7:01:38]: And we were working in the striping because we wanted to incorporate some element of the um [7:01:39, 7:01:43]: some element of the city's branding uh in the vehicle that doesn't have to be included. [7:01:44, 7:01:48]: But the lettering there we found some old historical pictures um [7:01:49, 7:01:59]: uh in in in that's basically the font set for the uh city of stockbridge vehicles that uh would was was uh part of the [7:02:00, 7:02:10]: um original department and uh i could share that footage there i don't know we want to go there sheep they would just span uh cheap if if if you don't mind cheap [7:02:10, 7:02:22]: Don't do that. We we we kind of like to get away from that old uh I I I I I I I got you, but you know what as a country we have a storied past and um you know we just we take it taking a [7:02:22, 7:02:25]: Take it taking all things into consideration, but uh it [7:02:26, 7:02:30]: You know, fr I guess from the shoulder pads to the cars. I mean y'all y'all [7:02:30, 7:02:32]: Maybe I'll get get uh [7:02:33, 7:02:36]: Y'all need to be on the design committee, um and uh [7:02:36, 7:02:43]: shoot us some ideas to take a look at and we'll certain we certainly will. I promised Councilwoman Barber we wouldn't go with the ugly patch. [7:02:43, 7:02:50]: And then uh Mayor Pro Tem, it sounds to me like you're not filling the vehicle. So if you have uh you have some ideas. [7:02:50, 7:02:51]: Uh shoot'em my way. [7:02:52, 7:02:53]: Yeah. [7:02:53, 7:02:54]: All right, thank you, sir. [7:02:55, 7:03:15]: Appreciate it. All right. Chief, obviously, as you well know, we swore you in uh to be our chief of police on September twentieth. And I know we're all very proud of the fact that uh you have now had your nucleus of your leadership team on staff that we swore on on uh Monday, the December uh sixth. So we're moving in the right directions. So we added with you, of course. [7:03:15, 7:03:35]: Of course, Commander Richard Godfrey, if I got it right, Commander Glenn Calish, Lieutenant Commander Ron Mor Mormon, and Lieutenant Commander Anton Pop Paton, if I got it all pronounced right. And so uh fantastic. And we're moving move making the right moves here. Uh so I have a di I do have additional comments, but I would imagine I'll we probably just need to return to meeting. [7:03:35, 7:03:36]: What do you think, huh? [7:03:36, 7:03:37]: You ready? [7:03:39, 7:03:48]: Wow. Motion to adjourn. So move. Okay. I was going to say motion. I was asked to adjourn me. Okay. Motion to adjourn. Mayor Protect. [7:03:48, 7:03:50]: Remember 10 made a motion. Is there a second? [7:03:51, 7:03:53]: A second. All right. All fair please indicate. [7:03:54, 7:03:55]: Yes, he nails. Good night. [7:03:56, 7:03:57]: You know.

--- title: Main Street Advisory Board Meeting date: 2021-12-10 source: 2021-12-10_Main_Street_Advisory_Board_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:02, 0:00:03]: Okay. [0:00:04, 0:00:06]: Fantastic. Thank you, Kira. [0:00:06, 0:00:20]: Um good morning again, everyone. Uh, we would like to call our December 2021 uh Main Street Advisory Board meeting to order at 910 AM Seasons Greetings. Yay! [0:00:20, 0:00:20]: Right. [0:00:20, 0:00:34]: Happy Hanukkah, Merry Christmas, Happy Kwanzaa, uh, whatever it is that your heart celebrates, we are with you and happy that you are here with us. All right, so we're gonna go ahead and get started with um. [0:00:34, 0:00:47]: Um let's actually read our mission statement first and then we'll move on to roll call in regards to our agenda to allow for any additional board members to be able to join us. [0:00:48, 0:00:48]: Okay. [0:00:49, 0:00:52]: Any volunteers? If not, I'll be happy to read it. [0:00:53, 0:00:54]: No one's [0:00:55, 0:00:57]: Lisa. Yeah. Thank you, Miss Lisa. [0:00:59, 0:01:02]: Let me get my mute together here. [0:01:02, 0:01:19]: Okay, the Stockbridge Main Street program's mission is to design and support an identifiable downtown historic district that promotes economic vitality, cultivates artistic expression, encourages cultural enrichment, and nurtures community spirit. [0:01:21, 0:01:23]: Thank you very much, Miss Lisa. [0:01:24, 0:01:27]: Um, for all you do, not just reading our mission statement today. [0:01:28, 0:01:31]: Okay, we will move on to roll call. Um [0:01:31, 0:01:37]: Uh when you hear your name, please indicate uh you are present by just saying here present. [0:01:37, 0:01:38]: Uh Miss Camacho. [0:01:41, 0:01:42]: Miss Finley? [0:01:42, 0:01:43]: Present. [0:01:44, 0:01:44]: Thank you, ma'am. [0:01:45, 0:01:46]: Mr. Furch? [0:01:47, 0:01:48]: Present. [0:01:49, 0:01:50]: Thank you, sir. [0:01:51, 0:01:52]: Miss Gibson? [0:01:54, 0:01:56]: Mr. Hopkins. [0:01:56, 0:01:57]: Present. [0:01:57, 0:01:58]: Thank you, Star. [0:01:59, 0:02:00]: Mr. Horton. [0:02:01, 0:02:02]: Present. [0:02:02, 0:02:03]: Thank you, sir. [0:02:04, 0:02:05]: Miss Jones? [0:02:08, 0:02:11]: Miss Potts, I am present. Miss Reed? [0:02:15, 0:02:19]: Thank you. [0:02:19, 0:02:23]: Here, I ended up on your excuse me one moment. [0:02:23, 0:02:27]: I'm in the net with my name on your your site when I logged in. [0:02:28, 0:02:31]: Yes, that's fine. Uh we'll just make a note that [0:02:32, 0:02:37]: It's you and not my not my double ganger over there in the corner. [0:02:37, 0:02:39]: Okay, so that's still okay, okay, thank you. [0:02:40, 0:02:40]: Mm-hmm. [0:02:41, 0:02:45]: Thank you, ladies. Uh Miss Richardson. [0:02:47, 0:02:49]: And Councilman Thomas. [0:02:50, 0:03:08]: Okay. We presently have a quorum and we will move forward with our meeting. And if any additional members join in, we will acknowledge their presence. With that being done, we'll move on to agenda item number two, which is to review and approve the meeting agenda. [0:03:08, 0:03:10]: Um again, well [0:03:11, 0:03:21]: All of your meeting information was sent to you prior to our gathering today or uh meeting today, so that you can review and be prepared for the meeting. [0:03:21, 0:03:23]: So um in that [0:03:24, 0:03:26]: If we can um have [0:03:26, 0:03:28]: A moment to pull that up. [0:03:29, 0:03:36]: And then we ask for an approval of the agenda as presented, or if there's a need for discussion, so please bring it forward. [0:03:42, 0:03:47]: Okay, hearing none, can I please have a motion to accept the agenda as present as written? [0:03:49, 0:03:54]: Adam T, I move I move that we accept the December 10th, 2021 meeting meeting agenda as presented. [0:03:55, 0:04:01]: Thank you, Mr. Hopkins. And I have a second from Mr. Firch. Thank you. Um [0:04:01, 0:04:10]: Can everyone see the screen? Well, I have one participant that is unable to show herself at this time. So we'll just go through um the uh [0:04:11, 0:04:17]: By roll call, acknowledging if you um accept the the the motion that's on the floor. [0:04:18, 0:04:22]: And it looks like Ms. Jones will be joining us in just a moment. [0:04:24, 0:04:25]: Hello, Miss Jones. Good morning. [0:04:26, 0:04:27]: Come morning. [0:04:28, 0:04:32]: All right. We are um we have had a [0:04:33, 0:04:34]: Um [0:04:34, 0:04:39]: proper motion and second of the agenda being accepted as presented. [0:04:39, 0:04:40]: Um [0:04:41, 0:04:42]: Miss Finley. [0:04:45, 0:04:45]: Yeah. [0:04:45, 0:04:46]: Yes. [0:04:47, 0:04:47]: Thank you, ma'am. [0:04:48, 0:04:49]: Mr. Furch. [0:04:51, 0:04:52]: Yes. [0:04:52, 0:04:53]: Thank you, sir. [0:04:54, 0:04:55]: Mr. Hopkins. [0:04:56, 0:04:56]: Yes. [0:04:57, 0:04:59]: Thank you, sir. Mr. Horton. [0:05:00, 0:05:01]: Yes. [0:05:01, 0:05:04]: Thank you, sir. Ms. Jones, are you able to [0:05:05, 0:05:11]: Yes. Thank you, ma'am. Potts, yes. Miss Reed. Yes. [0:05:12, 0:05:27]: Thank you. All right. The motion has been moved and and and we are moving on. I'm sorry, has been approved and we will move on to the review and approval of the meeting minutes from our November 2021 minute meeting. [0:05:28, 0:05:30]: Um again it's information and [0:05:30, 0:05:32]: has been sent to you prior to our meeting today. [0:05:33, 0:05:35]: Um hopefully we've had an opportunity to review it. [0:05:36, 0:05:44]: Uh we will allow for a moment to see if there is a need to make any amendments to it as presented. [0:05:45, 0:05:49]: Any discussion or need to make amendments. [0:05:50, 0:05:56]: Do we um amend like grammatical um errors or typos and stuff like that? [0:05:56, 0:05:57]: Yes, it is. [0:05:58, 0:05:59]: Oh, okay. [0:06:00, 0:06:01]: Um [0:06:04, 0:06:05]: On page two. [0:06:06, 0:06:07]: Okay. [0:06:08, 0:06:12]: um in the housekeeping items under board terms. [0:06:13, 0:06:18]: Wouldn't that be um at the end as the stated deadline has passed P A S S E D? [0:06:22, 0:06:22]: Yes. [0:06:28, 0:06:36]: And then um in the next paragraph for the advisory board meeting format um [0:06:36, 0:06:40]: It looks like that was more of a computer um era. [0:06:40, 0:06:47]: Whereas if they would like the it to remain virtual or start meeting in person, I feel like is where that what was supposed to be there. [0:06:49, 0:06:50]: Yes, I see it. [0:06:55, 0:06:59]: And the spacing is off weird. So yeah. Mm-hmm. [0:07:00, 0:07:00]: That [0:07:01, 0:07:03]: That's the way we think about computers. [0:07:03, 0:07:04]: Okay. [0:07:05, 0:07:11]: We'll check out we'll get that checked. Mildred, did you see that as well? I'm looking at that now. Uh okay. [0:07:11, 0:07:17]: But I wanted to hear her statement, something about to remain as virtual or start meeting as [0:07:17, 0:07:19]: In person. [0:07:19, 0:07:26]: Oh in person, okay. Yeah. Remain virtual or start meeting in person is what probably needs to be there. Right, okay. [0:07:28, 0:07:29]: And then um [0:07:30, 0:07:36]: under the project updates were for the section with the alleyway project. [0:07:36, 0:07:40]: Meeting with Falcon engineers for a follow up, I think. [0:07:40, 0:07:41]: Yeah. [0:07:42, 0:07:46]: And then uh this item will be taken up with the business owners. [0:07:48, 0:07:49]: Okay. [0:07:51, 0:07:51]: Thank you. [0:07:52, 0:07:54]: Thanks. There was one more. [0:07:55, 0:07:55]: Oh. [0:07:55, 0:07:56]: No, that's fine. [0:07:57, 0:08:08]: Okay. Um in the last section with the small business blitz um after November twenty twenty one where it says be sure to stay tuned. Um wouldn't that be with the D? [0:08:10, 0:08:11]: Um [0:08:12, 0:08:13]: It tuned. [0:08:15, 0:08:20]: Wait a minute. Um which page? I'm sorry. Oh, I see on this page. Yeah, I'm going to do it. I moved to [0:08:20, 0:08:24]: Yeah. So yeah, I see it. I see it. [0:08:25, 0:08:27]: Mm-hmm. And then um [0:08:28, 0:08:31]: Greg's name has two G's the second time. [0:08:32, 0:08:33]: Yeah. [0:08:35, 0:08:37]: Available on all streaming platforms today. [0:08:39, 0:08:41]: That was all. Okay. [0:08:42, 0:08:45]: Thanks for having me. I'm still uh [0:08:45, 0:08:49]: So getting ready, I just dropped the curl off. [0:08:50, 0:09:03]: Thank you, ma'am. Thank you so much. Yes, for identifying those. And um that makes us feel fantastic because we know that they're the m minutes and agendas are actually being read. So thank you. [0:09:04, 0:09:10]: Fantastic. All right. Any other uh noted corrections needed? [0:09:12, 0:09:21]: Okay, hearing none, can we please have a motion to accept our November meeting minutes with noted corrections? [0:09:22, 0:09:25]: Yes, I'll ver I'll motion that. [0:09:25, 0:09:28]: Thank you, Ms. Finley. And can we have a second, please? [0:09:30, 0:09:37]: I'll second that. Second. Oh, go ahead. Um, let the record show Miss Linda Jones will second it. Thank you, Mr. Furch. [0:09:37, 0:09:44]: All right, we and welcome Councilman Thomas to well meeting. We will move on with our um [0:09:44, 0:09:47]: Voting for this um motion. [0:09:47, 0:09:51]: Uh so we will begin with Ms. Finley. In favor? [0:09:51, 0:09:53]: Or not. Yeah. [0:09:53, 0:09:55]: Thank you, Mr. Firch. [0:09:55, 0:09:56]: Yes. [0:09:57, 0:09:59]: Thank you, Mr. Hopkins. [0:09:59, 0:10:00]: Yes. [0:10:01, 0:10:02]: Thank you, Ms. Jones. [0:10:03, 0:10:04]: Yes, yes. [0:10:04, 0:10:04]: Mm. [0:10:05, 0:10:06]: Thank you. [0:10:06, 0:10:10]: Um, I'm gonna abstain because I wasn't present for that meeting. [0:10:10, 0:10:11]: Miss Reed? [0:10:11, 0:10:12]: Yes. [0:10:12, 0:10:15]: And thank and thank and thank you, Ms. Finley, for [0:10:16, 0:10:17]: Assisting me. [0:10:18, 0:10:20]: With these corrections. [0:10:20, 0:10:20]: Yeah. [0:10:23, 0:10:35]: Ms. Richardson, welcome to the meeting. Um uh we will move on and ask Mr. Uh uh Councilman Thomas if he is in favor of accepting it the minutes as presented. [0:10:36, 0:10:37]: Yes. [0:10:37, 0:10:42]: Thank you. Ms. Richardson, um, you have just joined, so I don't think it would be in best um [0:10:43, 0:10:50]: uh taste to request that you vote on this particular motion, but the motion does um [0:10:52, 0:10:53]: Carrie with [0:10:55, 0:10:57]: Madam Chair, I'll vote yes as well. [0:10:57, 0:11:01]: I'm sorry. So sorry, Mr. Horton. Thank you. [0:11:02, 0:11:10]: With seven in favor and two abstaining. Thank you. There was a little movement going on on the screen, so I apologize for that, sir. [0:11:11, 0:11:30]: All right, we will move on to our next agenda uh area or mo um item, which is the review and approval of the financial statement that has been presented as well. Um any questions or need for discussion for the approval of the uh financial statement. [0:11:30, 0:11:32]: For November. [0:11:36, 0:11:40]: Um, I did have a comment for the financial statement. [0:11:40, 0:11:41]: Yes, ma'am. [0:11:41, 0:11:47]: Okay, um you all might notice that the copy rental um [0:11:49, 0:11:54]: Amount is at negative nine hundred and thirty six dollars and forty four cents. [0:11:54, 0:11:55]: Um [0:11:55, 0:12:01]: I think I mentioned this before, but I just wanted to make sure that I noted this again that [0:12:01, 0:12:04]: 'cause the amount keeps getting higher and higher. [0:12:04, 0:12:07]: Um from our last financial statements. [0:12:07, 0:12:10]: That when the budget was created. [0:12:10, 0:12:14]: This particular um expense was not. [0:12:14, 0:12:20]: known or at least not um calculated properly for the Main Street program. [0:12:20, 0:12:21]: So um [0:12:22, 0:12:26]: We did get some new copiers in the building and um I think that [0:12:27, 0:12:35]: That is a reflection of the new equipment being installed in the building. So our share of the copier expense. [0:12:35, 0:12:40]: Went up and was not calculated in our original um budget creation. [0:12:40, 0:12:45]: So that is not something that we are just doing an overrun of copies or anything like that. [0:12:45, 0:12:52]: It is just that it was not properly calculated at the beginning. And I think that this is the situation with [0:12:52, 0:12:57]: All of our departments that use the um particular copiers here in [0:12:57, 0:12:58]: First floor. [0:12:59, 0:13:00]: In City Hall, so [0:13:01, 0:13:01]: Um [0:13:01, 0:13:04]: I didn't want anybody to think that Lisa and I are. [0:13:05, 0:13:06]: Printing books over here. [0:13:07, 0:13:10]: As far as the copies are concerned, that is just something that [0:13:11, 0:13:13]: In our next budget, and we just had a budget meeting. [0:13:14, 0:13:15]: Um [0:13:15, 0:13:16]: Єстей [0:13:17, 0:13:18]: Uh we have [0:13:18, 0:13:20]: contemplated or at least programmed. [0:13:21, 0:13:25]: about twelve hundred dollars there. So I think that that will cover us next year. [0:13:25, 0:13:29]: And we won't have this same um deficit reflected on our financial statement. [0:13:33, 0:13:41]: Thank you so much. Was there additional um conversation or discussion? [0:13:44, 0:13:52]: Okay, no. Hearing none, can we please have a motion to accept the agenda? I'm sorry, accept the financial statement for November 2021 as presented. [0:13:57, 0:14:00]: Uh madam chair, I've [0:14:01, 0:14:04]: I motion that we accept the um financial statement. [0:14:04, 0:14:08]: With the with the correction, with the comment from Ms. Braggs. [0:14:09, 0:14:11]: Okay. Thank you for that. [0:14:12, 0:14:15]: Extremely fine. Let's read we have a second. [0:14:15, 0:14:15]: A second. [0:14:16, 0:14:17]: Thank you, Mr. Furch. [0:14:18, 0:14:21]: Uh the uh motion has been properly [0:14:22, 0:14:23]: Uh [0:14:23, 0:14:32]: Presented, moved, and seconded. So we would like to go ahead and vote on this and see where the chips lie. All right, Miss Finley. [0:14:36, 0:14:36]: Yes. [0:14:37, 0:14:39]: Thank you, ma'am, Mr. Firch. [0:14:39, 0:14:40]: Yes. [0:14:41, 0:14:43]: Thank you, sir. Mr. Hopkins. [0:14:45, 0:14:48]: Hold on one second. Yes. [0:14:49, 0:14:51]: Oh thank you, sir. Mr. Horton. [0:14:52, 0:14:52]: Yes. [0:14:53, 0:14:56]: Thank you, sir. Ms. Jones? Yes. [0:14:58, 0:15:02]: Thank you, ma'am. Potts, yes. Ms. Reed? Yes. [0:15:03, 0:15:06]: Thank you, ma'am. Miss Richardson. Yes. [0:15:07, 0:15:10]: Thank you, ma'am. And Councilman Thomas. [0:15:10, 0:15:11]: Yes. [0:15:11, 0:15:22]: Thank you so much. And we now move our meeting over to our Main Street manager for her report, Ms. Fraggs. [0:15:22, 0:15:29]: Good morning again, everyone, and thank you all for being here. Um, I echo um [0:15:29, 0:15:36]: Ms. Potts Mrs. Potts comments earlier, um, extending holiday greetings to everyone here. [0:15:37, 0:15:42]: And I just wanted to make sure that you all received [0:15:42, 0:15:45]: A late document, and I apologize for it being late. [0:15:46, 0:15:49]: This morning I sent you all a copy of [0:15:49, 0:15:50]: The proposed [0:15:51, 0:15:51]: Um [0:15:51, 0:15:56]: Twenty twenty two Main Street Advisory Board meeting calendar. [0:15:56, 0:15:59]: So if you have access to your computers [0:15:59, 0:16:04]: Um be sure to um check that out. But I am going to share my screen. [0:16:05, 0:16:08]: Just so that you all will be able to see it. [0:16:09, 0:16:16]: Um at least I hope I'm gonna share my Ms. Braggs, before you continue, just want the record to reflect that um [0:16:17, 0:16:20]: Ms. Gibson has joined the meeting. Welcome, Ms. Gibson. [0:16:20, 0:16:21]: Okay. [0:16:21, 0:16:22]: Hi. [0:16:23, 0:16:29]: All right, I'm gonna go on and share my screen. Just one other thing. I don't think that we recognized Mr. Peterson. [0:16:29, 0:16:30]: Um [0:16:30, 0:16:32]: As a visitor in the meeting. [0:16:33, 0:16:42]: Yes, thank you. Welcome, Mr. Peterson. We are so happy that you're able to join us today. I I apologize for that uh miss at the start of our meeting. [0:16:43, 0:16:46]: Oh, it it it it's okay. Good morning, everyone. [0:16:47, 0:16:48]: Uh Madam Chair. [0:16:49, 0:16:50]: Yes, sir. [0:16:50, 0:16:52]: This is Councilman Thomas. [0:16:52, 0:16:57]: I was not present for the roll call, but please let the minute reflect that uh I am present. [0:16:58, 0:17:08]: Yes, sir. We have acknowledged that you are present as well as Ms. Jones and Ms. Richardson, who also were not present during real call. Thank you. [0:17:08, 0:17:10]: Okay. Thank you for that. [0:17:11, 0:17:15]: All right, I'm gonna go on and share my screen so you all can see the document. [0:17:15, 0:17:19]: Are you all able to see our proposed meeting schedule? [0:17:20, 0:17:25]: Yes, ma'am. Okay. Um as we have been meeting for the past um year. [0:17:26, 0:17:34]: Our meeting will be on the second Friday of every month, unless that date falls on or within a nationally [0:17:34, 0:17:37]: or City of Stockbridge recognized holiday. [0:17:38, 0:17:38]: And [0:17:39, 0:17:46]: Those cases, the meeting will be held on the following Friday or on another date deemed suitable by the Main Street Advisory Board. [0:17:46, 0:17:50]: program manager and or the Main Street Advisory Board. [0:17:50, 0:17:53]: The meeting may also be held on an alternate suitable date. [0:17:54, 0:17:55]: By a majority vote. [0:17:55, 0:17:58]: Of the board and with proper notice to the public. [0:17:59, 0:18:06]: Um board meetings will be held via Zoom video conference at nine AM unless otherwise determined. [0:18:06, 0:18:08]: by the program manager and or board. [0:18:09, 0:18:13]: Prior to COVID nineteen, all meetings were held at the Stockbridge City Hall. [0:18:14, 0:18:16]: And downtown Stockbridge. [0:18:16, 0:18:18]: Once all ковід restrictions are lifted. [0:18:19, 0:18:23]: By board vote, the meetings will again resume at City Hall. [0:18:24, 0:18:30]: In the instance of an alternative date, time andor meeting location, a public notice of this change. [0:18:31, 0:18:33]: Will be posted at Stockbridge City Hall. [0:18:33, 0:18:38]: And posted on both the cities and the Main Street program social media outlets. [0:18:38, 0:18:41]: All meetings are open to the public. [0:18:41, 0:18:41]: But [0:18:42, 0:18:46]: 2022 Main Street Advisory Board meeting schedule is as follows. [0:18:46, 0:18:50]: And um you all should be able to see. [0:18:50, 0:18:52]: You cannot move it down a little bit. [0:18:53, 0:18:54]: Gotta move you all over. [0:18:55, 0:18:55]: Right. [0:18:57, 0:18:58]: Yeah. Uh oh. [0:19:01, 0:19:02]: Can you all see it still? [0:19:04, 0:19:05]: Yes. Okay. [0:19:05, 0:19:09]: So those are the dates, and they all fall on the second. [0:19:09, 0:19:15]: Friday of um each month. I think we have avoided all of the um [0:19:15, 0:19:17]: Мейджор холидаї. [0:19:17, 0:19:19]: And um [0:19:19, 0:19:22]: We should be okay with regard to the meeting schedule. [0:19:22, 0:19:24]: So I would um [0:19:24, 0:19:26]: Madam Chair, I would need to um [0:19:27, 0:19:28]: Get this approved. [0:19:29, 0:19:32]: Proposed calendar approved by motion of the board. [0:19:33, 0:19:34]: Yes, yes. [0:19:34, 0:19:42]: Do we have a motion to accept this proposed 2022 meeting schedule for the Main Street Advisory Board as presented? [0:19:43, 0:19:45]: with all noted um [0:19:46, 0:19:56]: us, I guess, information and details as to how they will be stated to the public and how we will um move if there's a need to change. [0:19:57, 0:20:00]: and keeping the COVID factor in mind. [0:20:01, 0:20:11]: Madam Chair, go ahead. No, go ahead, Willie. Go ahead, Willie. Madam Chair, I move that we accept the Stockbridge Main Street Advisory Board 2022 meeting schedule as presented. [0:20:12, 0:20:15]: Thank you, Mr. Hopkins. Do we have a second? [0:20:19, 0:20:21]: I'll second. [0:20:21, 0:20:24]: I'll second the minutes. I'm sorry. Um [0:20:24, 0:20:27]: a calendar for twenty twenty two. [0:20:27, 0:20:36]: Just second the motion. Okay. Thank you, Ms. Jones. All right. Um, with that in place, we'll move forward without voting. Um, Miss Finley. [0:20:40, 0:20:40]: Yes. [0:20:41, 0:20:43]: Thank you, Mr. Firch. [0:20:44, 0:20:44]: Yes. [0:20:45, 0:20:46]: Thank you, Miss Gibson. [0:20:47, 0:20:48]: Yes. [0:20:48, 0:20:50]: Thank you, Mr. Hopkins. [0:20:51, 0:20:52]: Ah yes, manager. [0:20:52, 0:20:55]: Thank you. Mr. Horton. [0:20:55, 0:20:56]: Yes. [0:20:56, 0:20:57]: Thank you, Miss Jones. [0:20:58, 0:20:58]: Nice. [0:20:59, 0:21:00]: Yes, madam chair. [0:21:00, 0:21:05]: Thank you. Uh Miss Potts myself, yes. Miss Reed? Yes. [0:21:05, 0:21:06]: Thank you. [0:21:06, 0:21:08]: Miss Richardson. [0:21:09, 0:21:09]: Yes. [0:21:10, 0:21:12]: Thank you. And Councilman Thomas. [0:21:13, 0:21:13]: Yes. [0:21:14, 0:21:20]: Thank you. So moved. Thank you, Miss Braggs, for presenting it to us. And we're looking forward to 2022. [0:21:21, 0:21:22]: Okay. [0:21:24, 0:21:30]: All right, um the next housekeeping item would be the board appointments. [0:21:30, 0:21:33]: We have several folks that um [0:21:33, 0:21:38]: have requested reappointment on the board. We don't have anyone that um [0:21:39, 0:21:43]: expressed an interest in rolling off at this time. So I'm happy about that. [0:21:44, 0:21:49]: And um those board appointments are going to be made at the December thirteenth. [0:21:49, 0:22:06]: meeting of the main um I'm the main street of the city council on December the 13th at 6 p.m. uh yeah sorry I received uh emails from um Vanessa yesterday has been changed to the 21st [0:22:07, 0:22:15]: Oh, has it? Um I thought I had printed it out. Oh yeah. I have I have a copy with me. Uh please advise the [0:22:16, 0:22:20]: Please be advised the Stockwave City Council has moved the board. [0:22:20, 0:22:23]: A committee appointments to December twenty first at six PM. [0:22:23, 0:22:27]: Oh, okay. I didn't realize that. I'm sorry. [0:22:30, 0:22:34]: Did everyone that's up for reappointment receive that communication? [0:22:35, 0:22:39]: It should be Linda, Greg, Shamari, Anika, and Willie. [0:22:40, 0:22:40]: Yes. [0:22:40, 0:22:41]: Uh [0:22:43, 0:22:43]: Okay. [0:22:44, 0:22:47]: So everybody note that the twenty first. [0:22:47, 0:22:51]: So you all will um need to be present at that. [0:22:51, 0:22:53]: Um particular [0:22:53, 0:22:56]: Meeting in case they um [0:22:56, 0:22:58]: Call for any questions or have any [0:22:59, 0:22:59]: Um [0:23:00, 0:23:04]: And it's as you all know, it they usually don't have any questions or anything. So [0:23:04, 0:23:08]: Um, you all need to definitely put that on your schedules to be there though. [0:23:09, 0:23:13]: And any other board members who just want to be there at the meeting and support. [0:23:14, 0:23:16]: That is okay as well. Um [0:23:16, 0:23:17]: Or encouraged. [0:23:18, 0:23:19]: But the way they [0:23:20, 0:23:21]: Do this um [0:23:22, 0:23:25]: Because it is oh wait a minute. [0:23:26, 0:23:30]: I'm sorry, I'm kind of scattered right now. I forgot they have gone back to [0:23:30, 0:23:33]: The physical meetings, so I need to check to see whether or not. [0:23:33, 0:23:35]: The appointments are gonna be made. [0:23:35, 0:23:36]: If they want [0:23:37, 0:23:51]: the candidates to be at the physical meeting or if you are still able to join by Zoom. So I'll get back to those people who are up for reappointment and let you all know, unless it's stated in that letter, because I haven't seen the letter. [0:23:51, 0:23:55]: No, no, it's not stated. It's just one, just the morning. [0:23:55, 0:24:00]: I should send it on the ninth. Please be advised. And that's it. Okay. Madam Chair. [0:24:01, 0:24:03]: Yes, Councilman Thomas. [0:24:03, 0:24:05]: Yes, um [0:24:05, 0:24:09]: The uh agenda low was was quite [0:24:10, 0:24:11]: Uh heavy. [0:24:11, 0:24:13]: With thirty some items. [0:24:13, 0:24:14]: And [0:24:14, 0:24:17]: What the city attempted to do was to [0:24:18, 0:24:30]: uh roll off some of those agenda items to uh December the twenty first. Uh but the December thirteenth and twenty first council meeting. [0:24:31, 0:24:32]: Uh we'll be in person. [0:24:34, 0:24:36]: And I do believe that um [0:24:37, 0:24:41]: Those that those item that agenda item I think [0:24:41, 0:24:42]: Um [0:24:42, 0:24:47]: Those candidates probably will need to be in person. [0:24:47, 0:24:48]: I'm not sure if [0:24:49, 0:24:51]: I don't think there would be [0:24:51, 0:25:01]: uh in the Zoom connection for those in person meeting, even though, you know, it will be Facebook Live, et cetera, et cetera. But I don't know if that will be any um [0:25:02, 0:25:10]: Zoom access. Um, well you can check with uh Madam Clerk, uh Mrs. Holiday to be sure, but I don't I don't think so. [0:25:10, 0:25:11]: Okay. [0:25:11, 0:25:16]: I will do that and get back to everyone. And I apologize that I didn't [0:25:16, 0:25:16]: Um [0:25:17, 0:25:20]: Realised that they had moved those appointments to the [0:25:21, 0:25:22]: Um twenty first. [0:25:23, 0:25:25]: So I'm glad you all got the notice. [0:25:26, 0:25:31]: Um, my next housekeeping item is um I need to get everyone's [0:25:31, 0:25:35]: preferred email address because for some of you I have [0:25:36, 0:25:38]: Um two or three e mails. [0:25:38, 0:25:41]: But I need to make sure that you all [0:25:41, 0:25:43]: Select an email that is [0:25:44, 0:25:51]: one that you check quite frequently. Um the reason that some of you have more than one email. [0:25:51, 0:25:55]: on our email um distribution is because [0:25:55, 0:25:58]: You either requested that it be sent to two [0:25:58, 0:25:59]: Um [0:25:59, 0:26:00]: places or [0:26:01, 0:26:08]: You were not responding to emails from one of the other email addresses that I had. So I added an additional one. [0:26:08, 0:26:11]: to ensure that you are receiving communications. [0:26:12, 0:26:21]: So if you all are have access to a computer at this time, just please shoot me an email with your preferred email. [0:26:21, 0:26:23]: Um address [0:26:23, 0:26:28]: And then also um if you are not at a computer right now, just make a note to yourself. [0:26:28, 0:26:33]: to send that to me as soon as possible because we're trying to kind of clean up and streamline. [0:26:34, 0:26:36]: Our і mail communications. [0:26:36, 0:26:38]: I have inquired with [0:26:39, 0:26:42]: The um IT department to see if we [0:26:43, 0:26:46]: As the Main Street Advisory Board are able to get [0:26:46, 0:26:50]: Stockbridge email addresses. Um I know our DDA has. [0:26:50, 0:26:51]: Stock bridge. [0:26:52, 0:26:52]: Um [0:26:53, 0:26:56]: Stockbridge email addresses so that [0:26:57, 0:27:01]: Um all of their communications can go through that source and that way you're [0:27:01, 0:27:02]: Not having to receive [0:27:03, 0:27:09]: your emails at personal email addresses or work email addresses, what have you. But [0:27:10, 0:27:22]: I have to determine whether or not we're able to get those because I know at one point they were saying that there were not sorry, there were not enough. [0:27:22, 0:27:25]: Um email addresses available with our current [0:27:26, 0:27:30]: Um account. I know that some additional email addresses. [0:27:30, 0:27:32]: Or capacity has been added. [0:27:32, 0:27:37]: For the police department, because they brought the police department on board this year. [0:27:38, 0:27:40]: So I will have to get back to you all on a [0:27:41, 0:27:46]: Um stock bridge specific email for Main Street for us to use for each person. [0:27:46, 0:27:51]: But for the time being, please send me your preferred email address and that is the one that [0:27:52, 0:27:54]: I will use um going forward in January. [0:27:55, 0:27:57]: In addition, I want to try this again. [0:27:58, 0:28:03]: I need to get you all's shirt sizes uh prior to our shop small. [0:28:04, 0:28:05]: Став ам [0:28:05, 0:28:08]: I had requested to get you all's um [0:28:08, 0:28:10]: Shirt sizes. [0:28:10, 0:28:15]: And because we're trying to order polos for the Main Street Advisory Board. [0:28:15, 0:28:21]: Only a few people responded and then I got busy with some other things and did not circle back to you all. [0:28:21, 0:28:27]: So please send me your shirt sizes and we are able to I think I told you before they were gonna be [0:28:28, 0:28:30]: Unisex size, but we are able to get [0:28:30, 0:28:33]: Um male and female sizes so [0:28:34, 0:28:38]: Um, keep that in mind when you send that to me. So in your email. [0:28:38, 0:28:40]: Please be sure to send. [0:28:40, 0:28:43]: your um shirt size and your preferred [0:28:44, 0:28:48]: email address so that we can um get our polos ordered. [0:28:48, 0:28:51]: And we'll have them for next year and that way. [0:28:51, 0:28:54]: We'll look spiffy when we go to our different events and [0:28:54, 0:28:56]: Hat different meetings. [0:28:56, 0:28:58]: will have a um unified look. [0:29:00, 0:29:03]: Okay. Madam Chair. Yes, sir. [0:29:04, 0:29:04]: Um [0:29:05, 0:29:07]: I want to comment on both of those two items, if I may. [0:29:08, 0:29:12]: Sure. Um I just wanted to remind the board members that um [0:29:13, 0:29:21]: That is a uh an an important uh statement about the email address because I want everyone to be aware that um [0:29:21, 0:29:26]: with the city municipality, all of this is open subject to um [0:29:27, 0:29:30]: uh open record and and record requests. [0:29:30, 0:29:35]: And so I think it is important if you really don't want your personal email. [0:29:35, 0:29:46]: to get caught up in in that kind of uh open record or uh open record request, then I I think we probably you need to uh uh you know change that [0:29:46, 0:29:48]: Uh on the polo. [0:29:49, 0:29:50]: Uh [0:29:50, 0:29:52]: I do recall that discussion. [0:29:53, 0:29:56]: Uh personally I I I don't wear [0:29:57, 0:29:57]: Um [0:29:59, 0:30:06]: polos or those kind of so is there any way that um some of us or do we have a discussion about shirts [0:30:07, 0:30:10]: versus in the untooked shirts. [0:30:10, 0:30:12]: versus polos. [0:30:13, 0:30:16]: What type of sh shirt? You mean like a um [0:30:17, 0:30:20]: T shirt, iron shirt or no, no, no, not a t shirt. [0:30:21, 0:30:25]: But just a shirt, but it's not the the tuck in. [0:30:25, 0:30:27]: Kind of shirt it just um [0:30:28, 0:30:30]: A shirt that you wear out. [0:30:31, 0:30:38]: uh with with the cut in the side, which it's not a tuck in kind of a shirt, but it's a it's a button up shirt. [0:30:38, 0:30:40]: Oh, button down, sure. [0:30:40, 0:30:42]: Yeah. Oh, okay. [0:30:43, 0:30:50]: Um no, uh we didn't really have a discussion about it. I was just going to [0:30:50, 0:30:52]: Order polos, but if that is [0:30:53, 0:30:54]: Of концерн. [0:30:54, 0:30:55]: Um [0:30:55, 0:30:57]: To you all as a board. [0:30:57, 0:31:00]: Maybe I can come up with several different [0:31:01, 0:31:02]: Types of shirts. [0:31:03, 0:31:08]: And present them to you all and you all can decide which one you would like to go with. [0:31:08, 0:31:09]: Um [0:31:10, 0:31:13]: I can put that up for discussion. [0:31:13, 0:31:16]: Well, I just think personally a [0:31:16, 0:31:21]: A button down shirt, not the tuck in shirt. Now I think it's it's a better look. [0:31:22, 0:31:26]: than than than polos. I mean polos are okay with with some folks but [0:31:27, 0:31:29]: just personally, um [0:31:29, 0:31:33]: I I think the shirt is is a little bit more um [0:31:35, 0:31:37]: I wanna say more of a formal look. [0:31:38, 0:31:46]: Um, some folks just, you know, polos are just not it's not a good fit for some people. It just it's just my opinion. [0:31:48, 0:31:50]: Well, um [0:31:50, 0:31:53]: The reason I went with polo was because it is [0:31:54, 0:32:01]: usually a more um it does have a a more casual look because we would be wearing them at like for example our movies events. [0:32:02, 0:32:06]: Um, our outdoor meet and greets and things like that. But [0:32:06, 0:32:13]: I am open for any um suggestions if you all are um more interested in some other type of [0:32:13, 0:32:14]: shirt as um [0:32:15, 0:32:16]: Councilman Thomas has um [0:32:17, 0:32:18]: Proffered here. [0:32:19, 0:32:25]: Or I can Lisa and I can kinda go to the catalogs that we have available to us and [0:32:25, 0:32:27]: Um come up with several types of shirts. [0:32:28, 0:32:31]: And um present those to you all and you all as a board. [0:32:32, 0:32:33]: Can decide on [0:32:34, 0:32:34]: What [0:32:35, 0:32:37]: type of shirt you would like to go with. [0:32:40, 0:32:41]: Also no [0:32:42, 0:32:46]: Um long long sleeve versus short sleeve. [0:32:47, 0:32:57]: Yeah, we were going with um just short sleeve polos. Okay. Now Mrs. Bragg, I don't know uh what Mrs. Bragg's and and and uh and and Lisa [0:32:58, 0:33:01]: I I know you all have probably noticed the shirts that that [0:33:01, 0:33:03]: They were around City Hall. [0:33:03, 0:33:06]: And and those are casual shirts. [0:33:06, 0:33:13]: Um out for men and women. Uh it's just a button down shirt. Uh it's not a tuck in. [0:33:13, 0:33:17]: Uh but it's just a a shirt that you it's a casual shirt. [0:33:21, 0:33:25]: Um, I've seen a whole lot of different types of shirts around here. [0:33:26, 0:33:33]: Um, so I'm not exactly sure which one you might be referring to because I've seen them in all [0:33:33, 0:33:35]: Styles, colors. [0:33:35, 0:33:37]: All of it. So [0:33:37, 0:33:38]: Um [0:33:40, 0:33:43]: What is you all's pleasure as a board? [0:33:45, 0:33:46]: Annika. [0:33:47, 0:34:07]: Yeah, um I was thinking that uh comfort is important, that every person is comfortable in what they're wearing, because that kind of uh affects your confidence when you're not feeling like you're dressed well for yourself. So I'm thinking that maybe variety or options might be great, um, where perhaps uniformity will come in the color and where the [0:34:07, 0:34:27]: logo lives um so that we all can uh be comfortable and and and happy in what we're wearing. Sometimes long sleeves will be appropriate, other times short sleeves will. So it could be maybe we have a basic, this is what we're working with. And if you want to upgrade it to this one, maybe, you know, I don't know if we [0:34:27, 0:34:40]: we should come out of pocket for any major change. Um, but I do think that uh the uniformity can come in the color and where the logo lives opposed to the actual shirt, so that all are are happy. That's that's my opinion. [0:34:40, 0:34:41]: Okay. [0:34:42, 0:34:46]: Well, I think that that is a good idea to um maybe have [0:34:46, 0:34:50]: A couple of options that are I guess are uniform and [0:34:50, 0:34:54]: You can wear whichever one you feel most comfortable in. [0:34:54, 0:34:56]: Prayer, I think I saw a question. [0:34:56, 0:35:08]: Yeah. Um am I able to oh maybe I can put it um in the chat. I think I can attach. You can share, I think, if you need to show something. Well I just share my screen. Yeah. [0:35:09, 0:35:15]: Okay, yeah, let me do that. I was just googling some um is this the kind of [0:35:15, 0:35:20]: Like button up like a short sleeve shirt like this, is this what [0:35:22, 0:35:25]: Maybe. I think that that is what um [0:35:26, 0:35:32]: Councilman Thomas and you can um chime in. Councilman Thomas, you were thinking more of a button-down shirt like that. [0:35:32, 0:35:33]: It is. [0:35:33, 0:35:35]: Yeah, I'm I'm looking at it. [0:35:35, 0:35:36]: Yeah. Um [0:35:37, 0:35:40]: The the larger one, the the black one seemed like I can't [0:35:40, 0:35:41]: Okay, hold on. [0:35:42, 0:35:43]: Um [0:35:44, 0:35:58]: I'm sharing my screen so you got to tempt Well this is this is this for a female a similar that one's a female shirt that she was just showing but you're talking about a three right what it is it is a button down shirt similar to that [0:35:58, 0:36:01]: Now I know this one look seemed to be a little long, but um [0:36:02, 0:36:11]: But yeah, it's a shirt similar to that. Uh okay, so similar to that. Okay. So it fits over your pants versus having to tuck it in. That's what you okay. [0:36:11, 0:36:13]: Right, yeah. You do not tuck this one in. [0:36:13, 0:36:14]: Um [0:36:15, 0:36:20]: This one look a seemed to be a little long, but yeah, but that style as far as uh the button down. [0:36:20, 0:36:21]: Okay. [0:36:22, 0:36:22]: Okay. [0:36:23, 0:36:29]: And I think Councilman Thomas's other point was the style of that shirt is cut so there's no tail on it. It doesn't have to be cut. [0:36:29, 0:36:31]: Yeah. That is correct. [0:36:31, 0:36:36]: Doesn't have the round bottom where you have to correct. Yeah, that is correct. [0:36:36, 0:36:37]: Okay. [0:36:38, 0:36:38]: Okay. [0:36:39, 0:36:40]: Uh [0:36:42, 0:36:45]: All right, well, um I think based on um [0:36:46, 0:36:51]: the comments that I've heard so far. Are there any other comments? Um, if not, I guess based on those comments. [0:36:51, 0:36:55]: We will um go to some of our catalogs that um [0:36:55, 0:36:56]: The city orders from [0:36:57, 0:37:02]: And select a couple of shirts for you all to um look at. [0:37:02, 0:37:07]: And we'll get a consensus on maybe a long sleeve and a short sleeve and [0:37:08, 0:37:10]: Go on from there. Does that sound [0:37:11, 0:37:11]: Go. [0:37:13, 0:37:15]: Yes. [0:37:15, 0:37:16]: Okay. [0:37:16, 0:37:17]: Oi. [0:37:17, 0:37:25]: Well, I still will need you all's shirt sizes, so please be sure to send those with your preferred email address. [0:37:26, 0:37:28]: Okay, now I'm gonna move to project [0:37:28, 0:37:29]: Updates. [0:37:29, 0:37:30]: Um [0:37:30, 0:37:33]: And I'm gonna start with our [0:37:33, 0:37:39]: most recent promotion and that's our Small Business Saturday. So I'm going to [0:37:39, 0:37:40]: Um hand that over. [0:37:41, 0:37:42]: To Lisa. [0:37:42, 0:37:47]: Um, but before I do so, I just want to thank everyone who was supportive. [0:37:48, 0:37:49]: Of small business. [0:37:49, 0:37:55]: Excuse me, Small Business Saturday weather you were one of our Small Business Saturday. [0:37:55, 0:37:58]: Енд сма бізнес бліц каптанс. [0:37:58, 0:38:00]: Um Greg Linda. [0:38:01, 0:38:02]: Prayer, Vanessa. [0:38:03, 0:38:06]: Um, thank you so much for. [0:38:06, 0:38:08]: Helping us to get the work. [0:38:09, 0:38:15]: out Linda, did I say Linda to get the word out to everyone and to help us to recruit. [0:38:15, 0:38:17]: The small businesses and [0:38:17, 0:38:18]: For those who shop. [0:38:19, 0:38:23]: Thank you so much for shopping. You sent in your photos and [0:38:23, 0:38:25]: Text messaged me and [0:38:25, 0:38:27]: Let me know that you were out and about. [0:38:27, 0:38:29]: supporting this particular promotion. [0:38:30, 0:38:34]: So now I'm gonna hand it over to Lisa and she's gonna give you all [0:38:34, 0:38:35]: Um her report. [0:38:37, 0:38:39]: Uh good morning again, everyone. [0:38:39, 0:38:46]: Um, I do want to thank you all for participating in this year's um shop small blitz campaign. [0:38:46, 0:38:50]: Um, I think it was pretty successful. Um [0:38:50, 0:38:55]: You know, when you talk about success, there are a lot of different measures, you know. [0:38:55, 0:38:59]: Um how well it went in general and also um [0:39:00, 0:39:08]: What things were our expectations and what we hope we can do better in the future? So, one thing I definitely think is everyone we've talked to. [0:39:09, 0:39:15]: Really prefers having it as a month long blitz, if not seen uh season. [0:39:15, 0:39:16]: And I think [0:39:16, 0:39:20]: It's because it gives people time to create momentum. [0:39:21, 0:39:33]: And um capitalize on the public being aware and having more time to participate as opposed to squeezing it in during the holiday weekend when there's just a lot going on. [0:39:34, 0:39:35]: So um [0:39:35, 0:39:48]: Everyone who shopped, everyone who helped us get the word out and push passports. Also, once again, we had over 30 businesses participate, which is great. [0:39:49, 0:39:52]: I love that because I I just really was not sure. [0:39:53, 0:39:57]: How many participants we would get? I thought we'd have to cull it down to whatever. [0:39:58, 0:40:18]: You know, whoever was available. You know, a lot of businesses um changed their format since the um pandemic, or some of them have just stopped being available to us. But we do we did get more than 30 businesses. And um additionally, some of those were. [0:40:18, 0:40:20]: Бізнес да хартипайте бифо. [0:40:21, 0:40:25]: So and it was a pretty good percentage of those. And I'm really pleased about that. [0:40:26, 0:40:26]: Um [0:40:27, 0:40:29]: We've had a meeting um [0:40:29, 0:40:37]: With some folks who will probably become like a um our shop small committee, and we would like to. [0:40:37, 0:40:43]: Make a few changes so that we have a better opportunity for success next year. [0:40:43, 0:40:50]: Um, in terms of scheduling and getting our getting the word out and so on. So you'll be hearing more about that. [0:40:51, 0:40:51]: Um [0:40:52, 0:40:59]: Kira has asked me to share my screen and show you um one of the videos we [0:41:00, 0:41:02]: Um presented this year. [0:41:03, 0:41:05]: Um so each year [0:41:05, 0:41:14]: For the past few years, we've been doing um, I hope you guys can see that because on my screen it's a little bit small. Gonna see if I can blow it up. [0:41:15, 0:41:23]: Um, we've been choosing something like eight uh businesses. Hang on. So come in anytime. [0:41:24, 0:41:32]: We've been choosing eight businesses for the past three years that we created videos for. And that has been a really good. [0:41:32, 0:41:34]: um strategy. [0:41:34, 0:41:36]: Uh, we get a lot of views. [0:41:37, 0:41:41]: And comments on Facebook from the public, you know, being able to enjoy. [0:41:41, 0:41:44]: Folks they know from around the community in their [0:41:44, 0:41:45]: shops and [0:41:46, 0:41:53]: Um, getting the word out and being participants. So we're going to show you the one from Elf's Cakery, starring. [0:41:53, 0:41:55]: Ms. Prayer Finley. [0:41:57, 0:42:03]: Yeah, we really like this one. Um, I hope oh wait, let me share the sound before I go further. [0:42:03, 0:42:07]: And I hope you'll be able to hear it because sometimes it's not a good transition. [0:42:09, 0:42:11]: I'm gonna turn my sound up pretty high. [0:42:14, 0:42:15]: All right, here we go. [0:42:18, 0:42:38]: I'm Prayer Finley with Elf's Cakery. Small businesses are the heart of our community. Stockbridge needs your support now and throughout this holiday season. Here at Elf Cakery, we offer custom cakes and cupcakes for all occasions. However, you can also come in anytime. You can buy cakes, cupcakes, cake pots. [0:42:38, 0:42:46]: Cookies, we have it all. Please shop small with us through November and throughout the year. We're looking forward to satisfying your sweet tooth. [0:42:46, 0:42:52]: You better shop around. Yeah. [0:42:54, 0:42:57]: Well that turned out much better than I thought it would. [0:42:58, 0:43:00]: We really enjoyed that. [0:43:00, 0:43:04]: Is that your first post to do? You haven't seen it? [0:43:04, 0:43:22]: Oh no, Lisa, didn't you send her a link to it? I I swore I did because the thing was I didn't ask for it. Yeah, it wasn't. Yeah, you did ask for it because you only had a couple more days left and I thought I sent it to you. Oh my I apologize. Okay, we'll use it next year. [0:43:23, 0:43:29]: Yes, yes. We'll keep on using it. Oh my goodness. It came out very well and um [0:43:29, 0:43:34]: Um Barber said that was a great video, everybody. [0:43:35, 0:43:41]: Okay. Um and then Kira wanted me to show you one that we did not produce. [0:43:41, 0:43:45]: But um one of the participating vendors um [0:43:46, 0:43:56]: Their um one of their employees just took it upon herself to make um a video. I'm going to scooch down here on Boba Luba. [0:43:57, 0:44:01]: This young lady named Amelia. Um, I think she did a great job. [0:44:02, 0:44:03]: Here she is. [0:44:03, 0:44:23]: All right, hang on. I'm gonna try to blow and this was totally unsolicited. She did it on her own. I gotta give you a quick note that she still has the music that's piped into the store playing in the background. So the sound is not, you know, high quality. But if you could um try to pay attention to [0:44:23, 0:44:25]: So her it would be worth it. [0:44:27, 0:44:47]: Exciting things that are coming up. So first of all, we have joined with other small businesses in Stockbridge for a small business Blitz passport. So on this passport there are lots of different small businesses and if you shop at four of them and get stamps for four different businesses, you'll be entered. [0:44:47, 0:44:52]: You you're you're not able to hear it. Um, it's because the music on hers is piped in. [0:44:52, 0:44:55]: But if you ever get a chance, I think you'd enjoy it so. [0:44:56, 0:45:00]: Lisa. I mean this this is a pretty young girl, right? And Lisa [0:45:00, 0:45:08]: Lisa, excuse me. Lisa, we can hear it. I could hear we could hear it clearly, but it's and maybe you don't want to play it, but I could hear it very well. [0:45:08, 0:45:15]: Oh, okay we can hear it. Oh but you if you ha if you can on your screens bring your volume up a bit too. So [0:45:16, 0:45:20]: 'Cause it is a lot of interference and I think that she um well background noise and I [0:45:21, 0:45:23]: Финкш овкурші динхав а форма мікрофон. [0:45:24, 0:45:27]: So it's just her little camera or iPhone, so [0:45:27, 0:45:29]: have to listen real closely. [0:45:30, 0:45:34]: So I'm uh we're only 26 seconds in. I'm gonna just play it from here, okay? [0:45:35, 0:45:35]: Okay. [0:45:36, 0:45:50]: Ready to win a$100 gift card. We also have a coupon on here, so if you come in with this or get one from here and get your little stamp, you can buy one regular drink and get the other one for free. So it's an awesome deal. [0:45:52, 0:46:12]: Also, we have a special day with this called Shop Small Business Saturday, which is a Saturday after Thanksgiving. On that day, if you come into any of these cool little shops and make a purchase and then take a picture of yourself with that purchase, you will be entered to win a$200 gift card. [0:46:12, 0:46:32]: Which is great honestly. There's so many cool different shops that will be open on that Saturday or that will be open all throughout November because you have until December 3rd to complete this. There's Bobalubuti, obviously my favorite because I work here. Um there's Party by Design, which is an awesome place to go with your friends where you can paint and you can [0:46:32, 0:46:33]: Can um [0:46:34, 0:46:41]: drink your wine, it's very fun. We also have Barnes and Beautiful, which has the best decor ever for your house. We have [0:46:42, 0:46:47]: some of their shelves up in our shop right now. And let's see, where else? [0:46:48, 0:46:55]: There's just so many awesome stores that you should definitely check this out. Come in, get your passport, and enter to win. [0:46:56, 0:47:15]: And a hundred dollar gift card. Also, this Saturday we are having an awesome, awesome opportunity. My co-worker Sebastian is going to be having a pop-up gallery here. So she goes on to explain that one of their co-workers is doing a pop-up art gallery. I guess that's what he does on the side. [0:47:16, 0:47:20]: And what I just really loved about this is we've tried to encourage [0:47:20, 0:47:23]: Um, hang on, somebody's got something in the chat. [0:47:24, 0:47:25]: Okay. Um [0:47:26, 0:47:29]: So we've tried to encourage um [0:47:30, 0:47:41]: you know, the businesses to take it upon themselves to promote. And this young lady just really went there. And she is she's not the owner. Like she just [0:47:41, 0:47:55]: Took it upon herself to make a very well explained um video. She had all the points down pat and the understanding of how to use the passport and what the program was about. And I was just so [0:47:55, 0:48:00]: Pleased with her. Let me see if I can get to Vanessa's easily. [0:48:00, 0:48:01]: Hang on minute. [0:48:01, 0:48:02]: Hang on, hang on. [0:48:03, 0:48:08]: Normally I um have these on a disc, but I don't today. [0:48:09, 0:48:11]: So we're going from here. Let's try it going this way. [0:48:14, 0:48:14]: Okay. [0:48:17, 0:48:22]: Yeah, past that one. The one with that one wasn't bad. Oh, go past that one. [0:48:23, 0:48:25]: Oh, it's just not showing me my um [0:48:25, 0:48:26]: Wait. [0:48:26, 0:48:32]: And part of the problem is that I've got You may have to use that arrow and scroll through them. See where it says [0:48:33, 0:48:34]: We're um [0:48:35, 0:48:36]: Drip through is the arrow. [0:48:38, 0:48:46]: Did I pass go back down? No, go back down. See drip through's video. See there's an arrow right now. You know what? I can't see it because this thing is here. [0:48:47, 0:48:58]: I gotta move my um my zoom over. Okay. That's yeah. Click on that little arrow. You might be able to get to it that way. All right, here we go. That's so much better. Sorry guys. Greg, Linda. [0:49:00, 0:49:02]: Paint buses. There's Vanessa's right there. [0:49:03, 0:49:03]: Go back. [0:49:07, 0:49:10]: There she is. Yeah. Okay. Another favorite. [0:49:11, 0:49:31]: Hello, my name is Vanessa Gibson and I am the owner and director of Eagles Landing Dance Center right here in Stockbridge, Georgia. We teach dance to little people three ages three to eighteen. That's right, and we teach ballet, tap, jazz, hip-hop, lyrical, contemporary, modern, you name it. [0:49:31, 0:49:51]: Do it, even we have adult Zumba. We are so excited to be located here in Stockbridge, Georgia, and we can't wait for you to come out and support not only our small businesses but the other small businesses and restaurants right here in Stock Bridge. Please go out this month and help support all the small businesses. [0:49:51, 0:49:57]: Right here inside the me. Hey, you better shower up [0:49:58, 0:49:59]: Okay. [0:49:59, 0:50:05]: Hello, my name is Vanessa Gibson and I am the owner and director of Eagles Landing Dick. Here we go. [0:50:07, 0:50:12]: Okay. Okay. Again, another favorite. I loved Vanessa's energy. Um [0:50:13, 0:50:14]: Our um [0:50:15, 0:50:18]: Our participants are not professional. [0:50:18, 0:50:22]: um actors. Take it off share, Lisa. [0:50:22, 0:50:23]: Okay. [0:50:23, 0:50:28]: Yeah, so we can see you mean Carrie, you mean you don't want them to see our video? No, I don't want them to see that. [0:50:29, 0:50:30]: Mm. [0:50:30, 0:50:34]: You can show it. You can show it. [0:50:34, 0:50:35]: Hang on. [0:50:36, 0:50:39]: It's not good. That's the one that I don't like. [0:50:40, 0:50:43]: I thought it was good. Okay, wait, it's gonna be right here. [0:50:44, 0:50:46]: Okay, let me see if I can blow it up. [0:50:49, 0:50:50]: That's better. [0:50:51, 0:50:55]: And I'm Lisa Fareet. I'm the program coordinator for Stockbridge Main Street. [0:50:56, 0:51:16]: And we're inviting you to come and support our local businesses the entire month of November. Come out and shop, dine, and do business with all of our locally owned small businesses. We've come up with the Stockbridge Small Business Blitz and the Small Business Passport. The Passport has over [0:51:16, 0:51:20]: 30 participating locally owned businesses. [0:51:20, 0:51:25]: Customers are asked to go ahead and visit these businesses, shop at four, [0:51:25, 0:51:31]: Get four stamps and you're eligible to participate in a drawing for a$100 cash card. [0:51:32, 0:51:37]: November is the month for our small business blitz here in Stockbridge. [0:51:38, 0:51:39]: One day is not enough. [0:51:40, 0:51:54]: We want to shop and support our local businesses for the entire month of November. So please grab a passport and go shopping, go dining, and support Stockbridge businesses. [0:51:54, 0:51:59]: We need you to shop till you drop and dine non-stop. [0:51:59, 0:52:03]: Alrighty. [0:52:05, 0:52:07]: It's enough showing off. Yeah. [0:52:09, 0:52:19]: Okay. So you know, you all get an idea of uh what we're trying to do. And every year we want to try to add eight more businesses, eight you know, at least eight more businesses to kind of keep it going. [0:52:19, 0:52:25]: And as you could see when Lisa scrolled through, there were some older videos like Linda, um [0:52:26, 0:52:33]: And Greg, they had some videos and some other businesses. And we're making a collection. So we'll have a a nice store of. [0:52:34, 0:52:40]: videos for the businesses that we have and Lisa go on and continue. See I'm on this. [0:52:41, 0:52:42]: What'd you say, Linda? [0:52:43, 0:52:45]: Never mind. Um I [0:52:46, 0:53:06]: Oh, okay. Can I quickly comment really quick? I know um I'm an Instagram person more so than Facebook. And I will tell you, every time I went through my feed and a new video came, I was excited. They were beautiful. They were fantastic and they were very encouraging. So just know that it's it's it [0:53:06, 0:53:09]: reached the people and they were awesome. Thank you for doing that. [0:53:10, 0:53:17]: Thank you. Thanks for that feedback. Because um, even though I try to pay attention to the way it's going through Instagram. [0:53:17, 0:53:22]: I'm not the user. So it's it's different from your perspective and [0:53:23, 0:53:36]: I felt really like it was exciting. I I we used a different videographer this year. We wanted to see if we can get like a slightly different style. And I think he did a really nice job. Um, I think those videos. [0:53:37, 0:53:39]: We're pretty high quality. [0:53:39, 0:53:42]: Um and we're very engaging. [0:53:42, 0:53:56]: So I'm I'm really pleased with that. And of course we're just adding them to the others as Kira described, which means um, you know, we'll have a bigger catalog to run through the entire month instead of just the same eight all, you know, throughout. [0:53:57, 0:54:03]: So um any other feedback from you guys about this year's campaign, we'd be happy to hear it. [0:54:07, 0:54:15]: No? Y'all you love it? I agree that the whole month is fantastic. Um, I was able to go other places after small business, you know. [0:54:16, 0:54:32]: other than that one weekend. So I do agree um with the business owners that having it for the month was was better um because we're all crazy this time of year and to know oh yeah this place I didn't even know this existed always check this out it just gives people an opportunity to [0:54:32, 0:54:39]: really dig in a little bit more. And I think it's growing. It's it's definitely growing and it's nice to see. [0:54:39, 0:54:42]: it from a thought to something that's actually [0:54:42, 0:54:43]: breathing. So [0:54:44, 0:54:48]: Thank you so much, Lisa, and the whole committee for your effort here. [0:54:48, 0:54:51]: And we do have um [0:54:51, 0:54:53]: Two winners for the um [0:54:53, 0:54:55]: Gift certificates. [0:54:55, 0:54:58]: We have a one hundred dollar gift certificate that [0:54:58, 0:55:00]: Is going to be presented to [0:55:00, 0:55:01]: Чімей [0:55:02, 0:55:06]: She is um very active in the community. She owns a state farm agency, but [0:55:07, 0:55:09]: She went shopping and um visited. [0:55:10, 0:55:14]: A lot of small businesses um during that month of November. [0:55:14, 0:55:17]: Oh go on, Lisa. I I want to say about Kim. [0:55:17, 0:55:18]: Um [0:55:18, 0:55:33]: So she's uh uh in a part of Stockbridge that has a plaza and she shopped at the businesses in her plaza. They were not on the passport, but they are Stockbridge businesses, and that was something else we came up with this year. If you [0:55:33, 0:55:39]: Shop at a small business that's like maybe one of your favorites or that you know of and it's not on the passport. [0:55:39, 0:55:41]: There's a blank section where [0:55:41, 0:55:45]: Someone can put stickers for that location. [0:55:45, 0:55:48]: And I I thought that was a great idea. She just [0:55:48, 0:55:55]: introduced us to some places that we just haven't been in communication with for whatever the reason. So I think that's great. [0:55:55, 0:56:00]: And she shopped at some on the that were on the passport too. I I did want to make that. [0:56:00, 0:56:06]: Um clear that she shopped at those along with some passport um places as well. [0:56:06, 0:56:07]: Mm-hmm. [0:56:07, 0:56:08]: Okay. [0:56:08, 0:56:14]: Anything else? Lisa, did you have anything else on that? No, I think that's about it. I'm kind of glad it's over. [0:56:14, 0:56:22]: Oh, the second winner, um, the$200 um yes, I'm sorry. That was um Robert Kolpak. [0:56:22, 0:56:28]: Robert Kolpak, some of you know him from being in the community or on some other committees. [0:56:29, 0:56:44]: He is a staunch supporter of Small Business Saturday. Like from we've known him for a couple of years, and we met him because he was doing the shop small passport and he was a winner a few years back and um. [0:56:45, 0:57:05]: I'm telling you, I don't care what's going on. He is out there shopping on that Saturday. He's taking pictures wherever he's at. He's bringing his kids around and family members. He comes back, he delivers his passport in person. You know, he makes sure that he shows us that he's been to drip through because I guess that's his morning stop. [0:57:05, 0:57:07]: And um [0:57:07, 0:57:23]: I'm just glad to have um folks like Robert be a part of what we're doing. It's it lets us know that people do appreciate the campaign because a lot of work goes into this and we don't always get the feedback to understand how the customer is enjoying it. [0:57:25, 0:57:42]: I I wanna add to what to what Kira said that that uh Robert was taking his kids around and introducing them to the idea of supporting local and sh and small and and it was really nice to see and and uh they visited here. It was a nice pleasant visit and the way he was guiding the kids through. It's really nice. [0:57:44, 0:57:44]: Yeah. [0:57:45, 0:57:46]: Okay. [0:57:46, 0:57:56]: All right. Well I'm gonna speed along. Thank you, Lisa, for your report and thank you everyone for supporting this effort. And it's we're gonna do it even better next year. [0:57:57, 0:58:00]: Um, as far as our construction projects are concerned. [0:58:00, 0:58:02]: The Ted [0:58:02, 0:58:05]: Dricklin is um we are [0:58:05, 0:58:07]: Looking at bitters now. [0:58:07, 0:58:12]: for the work on that particular building. We did have a little bit of a snag in our bid process. [0:58:13, 0:58:17]: Where there was um s a little bit of confusion with regard to [0:58:17, 0:58:21]: some items that people were supposed to include in their bid. [0:58:21, 0:58:25]: So we've contacted all the bidders and kind of corrected that. [0:58:25, 0:58:31]: Confusion. So uh we'll be looking at FET to finalize that before the end of the month as far as which [0:58:32, 0:58:32]: Um [0:58:33, 0:58:35]: construction company will be going with [0:58:35, 0:58:36]: Um for that. [0:58:37, 0:58:40]: One fourteen MLK the White Box Project. [0:58:40, 0:58:47]: That is that contract is currently with the city attorneys and being written. So we're moving pretty fast on that one. [0:58:48, 0:58:50]: And then with the Alleyway project, um [0:58:51, 0:58:58]: The uh Falcon Design did give a report at the last um city council meeting. They're going to be tweaking [0:58:58, 0:59:02]: Um, the design that was presented to the business owners. Um [0:59:03, 0:59:06]: After getting comments from the business owners with regard to [0:59:07, 0:59:08]: Their um [0:59:08, 0:59:09]: I guess. [0:59:09, 0:59:12]: Desires for that particular spot. [0:59:12, 0:59:13]: Um [0:59:13, 0:59:19]: They're going to do a redraw of some of the elements that taking out some elements, adding some elements. [0:59:19, 0:59:25]: To make that more conducive to what the um property owners and business owners. [0:59:25, 0:59:30]: gave us feedback on. So I'll g have some more on that once they have given me. [0:59:30, 0:59:33]: The redraw to give you an update on that. [0:59:34, 0:59:38]: Um then finally I would like to uh well not finally um [0:59:38, 0:59:43]: Finally, on this particular project, our Main Street website is going live. [0:59:44, 0:59:51]: And um you all beta tested it several months ago and we got some of the kinks out and [0:59:51, 1:00:00]: Made some changes, added some content, and um I would like for you all to write down stockbridgemainstreet.com. [1:00:01, 1:00:04]: All one word, no dashes, stockbridge, main street. [1:00:04, 1:00:06]: Dot com [1:00:07, 1:00:23]: And it's gonna go live this weekend. So I would like for you all to again um visit the site, look it over, test it out, see if there's anything that's not looking right. This is just a little soft launch. [1:00:23, 1:00:32]: Um, you can tell friends and family to look at it. We're going to try to get staff to look at it as well. And just give us some feedback on what you think about. [1:00:32, 1:00:36]: the site itself. Again, that's Stockbridge Main Street. [1:00:36, 1:00:37]: dot com [1:00:38, 1:00:42]: And um just shoot us some emails and let us know what you think. [1:00:43, 1:00:50]: The work plan committee joint DDA Main Street Work Plan Committee are downtown connectivity. [1:00:50, 1:00:51]: Committee meant [1:00:51, 1:00:55]: Last week for the on the first um Tuesday of the month. [1:00:56, 1:00:57]: Think that was the seventh. [1:00:57, 1:01:00]: And then downtown beautification will be meeting. [1:01:00, 1:01:03]: On the fourteenth, both groups have homework. [1:01:03, 1:01:07]: Um, that you all are supposed to be bringing to our next meetings. [1:01:08, 1:01:08]: Um the [1:01:09, 1:01:10]: Connectivity um meet [1:01:11, 1:01:17]: Crew will not be meeting in January. So uh make note of that if you are on the design and connectivity. [1:01:18, 1:01:21]: Um committee we will not be meeting in January. [1:01:22, 1:01:23]: Uh but the um [1:01:24, 1:01:28]: Design and um downtown beautification and activation will be [1:01:28, 1:01:33]: Um meeting next week on the fourteenth, I think it is. Tuesday the fourteenth. [1:01:34, 1:01:36]: Yes, Tuesday the fourteenth at six PM. [1:01:36, 1:01:41]: And you all had a homework assignment, so make sure you come back with your homework completed. [1:01:42, 1:01:43]: Um [1:01:43, 1:01:46]: Then there's one other thing that we um [1:01:46, 1:01:51]: I want to address and that is um an issue. I'm sorry. Yes Frank is a question. Are you [1:01:52, 1:01:54]: I I wanted to say something about the work plan. [1:01:54, 1:01:56]: Mm-hmm. Um [1:01:56, 1:01:58]: So we um [1:01:58, 1:02:07]: As a committee uh our the different committees were talking about it, we thought it was a good idea to present our work plan to [1:02:09, 1:02:13]: To present the work plan to uh the council. [1:02:13, 1:02:15]: Because um [1:02:15, 1:02:20]: We just wanted to make sure they understood, although they had heard about it before, understood. [1:02:20, 1:02:27]: what we were trying to do and agree to allow us to go forward with that uh work. [1:02:28, 1:02:34]: And therefore we'll have more support as we go through. They understand what we're doing. Um [1:02:34, 1:02:40]: You know, it won't be a surprise to them when different parts um are presented uh of the work that we've [1:02:40, 1:02:44]: Completed and are trying to uh improve to the downtown. [1:02:44, 1:02:45]: So [1:02:45, 1:02:49]: Um, Mr. Peterson was able to go before the council last week. [1:02:49, 1:02:59]: and request that our uh work plan be accepted in a resolution. That resolution has passed. And so I think that's really good news. Um [1:03:00, 1:03:03]: I think sometimes in the past we had some work that was done that [1:03:03, 1:03:04]: Maybe they [1:03:05, 1:03:09]: Misunderstood or forgot about, or whatever the case may be. [1:03:09, 1:03:12]: And then um it wasn't always followed through on so [1:03:12, 1:03:15]: I think it's a great thing that we have a resolution. [1:03:15, 1:03:17]: To acknowledge our work plan. [1:03:18, 1:03:20]: Thanks for um adding that, Lisa. [1:03:20, 1:03:24]: I'm trying to speed through and that was a very important point. [1:03:24, 1:03:28]: um that we did get that resolution approved. And thank you, Alan, for [1:03:29, 1:03:32]: taking that to the city council and um making sure [1:03:32, 1:03:34]: That they understood um [1:03:34, 1:03:38]: what it is we're planning to do over the next year and into the future. [1:03:39, 1:03:44]: Okay. Um one other item I had with regard to um [1:03:45, 1:03:50]: I guess it's not necessarily a project update, but it does um work into our [1:03:51, 1:03:55]: uh work plan and that is the um creating the [1:03:55, 1:04:01]: sense of place in our downtown and we have it has come to my attention that we have [1:04:01, 1:04:03]: А хомлеснес проблем. [1:04:03, 1:04:04]: That is starting to [1:04:05, 1:04:06]: Develop [1:04:06, 1:04:08]: In the downtown area, we've got a couple of [1:04:09, 1:04:11]: Folks who have decided that [1:04:11, 1:04:13]: Our downtown is um [1:04:14, 1:04:16]: A good place for them to set up. [1:04:16, 1:04:18]: Um, their camp. [1:04:18, 1:04:22]: And we are trying very hard to discourage. [1:04:23, 1:04:24]: This sort of behaviour. [1:04:25, 1:04:26]: Um they have [1:04:26, 1:04:30]: Um, come into some of the downtown businesses and [1:04:31, 1:04:31]: Um [1:04:32, 1:04:33]: Have not. [1:04:33, 1:04:35]: made it to кон conducive for [1:04:36, 1:04:41]: people who are shopping and and coming into the downtown area to do business and [1:04:41, 1:04:46]: This is something that we definitely don't want to have in our downtown. So [1:04:47, 1:04:53]: I have spoken with the um police chief our new police chief chief um tramer [1:04:53, 1:04:57]: And I've met with him, and he has [1:04:58, 1:05:00]: Ам, спокен вид Генри Коні поліс. [1:05:01, 1:05:02]: Um they have [1:05:02, 1:05:06]: Increase the patrols for downtown trying to [1:05:06, 1:05:09]: kind of see if there's any kind of um [1:05:09, 1:05:11]: Unwanted behaviour going on. [1:05:12, 1:05:15]: Um, they have also advised us that if [1:05:16, 1:05:17]: Any um [1:05:17, 1:05:21]: Of these folks are coming into the businesses. [1:05:21, 1:05:22]: That [1:05:22, 1:05:24]: Um, you should [1:05:24, 1:05:24]: Um [1:05:25, 1:05:30]: file a police report if they are being belligerent or being in any way um [1:05:31, 1:05:31]: Um [1:05:32, 1:05:36]: I guess unwanted or showing unwanted behaviors or just [1:05:36, 1:05:39]: Um being in your places of business. [1:05:39, 1:05:41]: Um they have also [1:05:41, 1:05:42]: Um [1:05:42, 1:05:47]: told us that if the person is inside of your business and they are not [1:05:48, 1:05:49]: There to do business. [1:05:49, 1:05:52]: Make a purchase, uh, be serviced. [1:05:52, 1:05:53]: That you [1:05:53, 1:05:58]: as the business owner do have and business and or property owner do have the right. [1:05:58, 1:06:00]: To ask them to leave. [1:06:00, 1:06:04]: Um, I've also alerted our mayor about the situation. [1:06:05, 1:06:05]: Yeah. [1:06:05, 1:06:08]: Mayor in capacity as mayor and as city manager. [1:06:08, 1:06:12]: And I have alerted our public works staff about. [1:06:13, 1:06:14]: Getting the um [1:06:15, 1:06:19]: campsites removed it's kind of a slippery slope because [1:06:19, 1:06:20]: Um [1:06:21, 1:06:22]: The [1:06:22, 1:06:23]: Campsites [1:06:23, 1:06:29]: The police cannot, even though they've come out and they've um removed some volatile [1:06:29, 1:06:31]: Um s things that they had in the camp. [1:06:32, 1:06:35]: They cannot remove the camp. That is the [1:06:35, 1:06:40]: responsibility of either the property owner that the proper that the camp has been set up on. [1:06:41, 1:06:42]: Or on the city if that [1:06:43, 1:06:49]: Camp is within the city's right of way or in city owned or controlled property. [1:06:49, 1:06:54]: So I have um photographs of where the camp is and have [1:06:54, 1:06:57]: sent those to all of the parties, so um hopefully [1:06:58, 1:06:58]: That [1:06:59, 1:07:03]: will be removed immediately so that we don't have that in our downtown. [1:07:04, 1:07:09]: Um, there's also a problem uh behind the library I've been alerted to, I've met with. [1:07:09, 1:07:21]: Um, Miss Johnson, who is the head librarian at Cochrane Library, and there's a meeting scheduled with the police chief for next week with her as well. So we're trying to work toward [1:07:21, 1:07:28]: kind of nipping this situation in the bud before it becomes a very, very, very serious problem. It's serious now. [1:07:28, 1:07:30]: But we don't want it to turn into something that [1:07:31, 1:07:32]: is very um [1:07:32, 1:07:36]: Detrimental to our downtown and our downtown development efforts. [1:07:37, 1:07:39]: Okay, that concludes my report. [1:07:40, 1:07:40]: Um [1:07:41, 1:07:43]: I'll give it back over to you, Anika. [1:07:45, 1:07:46]: Okay, thank you. [1:07:46, 1:07:59]: for your report and um at this time our next agenda item is our DDA report. Is Ms. Richardson or Mr. Peterson able to present a report for us today? [1:08:02, 1:08:07]: Um once again, unfortunately there's no report. Um [1:08:07, 1:08:11]: The only thing that we have going on right now, well, we are having um [1:08:13, 1:08:22]: Council McGain and did inform us that she's rolling off the DDA board. So we don't I'm not really sure who the replacement is going to be at this time. [1:08:22, 1:08:29]: Also, um we don't have any active projects going on other than working with our joint committees with Main Street. [1:08:30, 1:08:31]: Um [1:08:31, 1:08:31]: So [1:08:32, 1:08:37]: Those will be the only two updates we have at this time. Hoping and praying for a more active 2022. [1:08:40, 1:08:42]: Okay. Alan, did you have anything? [1:08:44, 1:08:50]: Uh yes, uh Roger and I have some meetings set up regarding the DDA market study. [1:08:50, 1:08:56]: As far as the business recruitment and retention committee, I was out of town, so we did not meet this month. We will meet again. [1:08:56, 1:08:58]: In January. [1:08:58, 1:09:01]: Uh, the group has their homework and [1:09:01, 1:09:04]: Uh before that meeting, I'll send out other updates. [1:09:05, 1:09:09]: But um we'll keep you posted. Uh we'll we'll update everyone next month. [1:09:09, 1:09:13]: On the D DA market study. Uh like I said, Roger and I have some [1:09:13, 1:09:14]: Awesome. [1:09:14, 1:09:16]: Meeting set up regarding that. [1:09:16, 1:09:20]: And um Kerry and Lisa already touched on the resolution. [1:09:21, 1:09:21]: Okay. [1:09:23, 1:09:27]: Perfect. Thank you both for the update. Um any questions? [1:09:31, 1:09:35]: Okay, hearing that. And I do want to apologize for changing um [1:09:35, 1:09:40]: to no visual, I had connectivity and had to rejoin on my phone. [1:09:41, 1:09:41]: Um [1:09:42, 1:09:44]: connectivity c connectivity issue, sorry. [1:09:45, 1:09:45]: Mm. [1:09:46, 1:09:53]: Hearing no questions or concerns, we'll move on to our next agenda item, which is announcements or concerns. Do we have any? [1:09:53, 1:09:55]: From our board members. [1:09:59, 1:10:01]: No announcements, no concerns? [1:10:02, 1:10:03]: Happy holidays. [1:10:03, 1:10:07]: I know, right? Exactly. Thank you for that. [1:10:08, 1:10:09]: Okay. [1:10:11, 1:10:12]: Okay. [1:10:13, 1:10:13]: Beautiful. [1:10:14, 1:10:14]: Well [1:10:15, 1:10:19]: I echo happ happy holidays. We begin and end with the same sentiment. [1:10:19, 1:10:26]: Um we are hoping that 2022 will be fantastic for us all and um Main Street will continue to grow. [1:10:26, 1:10:28]: Um, along with the city. [1:10:28, 1:10:32]: Um and thank you all for all that you do and your service and your commitment. [1:10:32, 1:10:39]: Um and your uh rededication for several of you to the Main Street program effort. [1:10:39, 1:10:40]: Um [1:10:40, 1:10:44]: And anything else? I just want to say. [1:10:44, 1:10:47]: Happy holidays to everyone. Um [1:10:47, 1:10:48]: We've had [1:10:48, 1:10:54]: Two incredible years that just went by. My head is still spinning. [1:10:54, 1:10:58]: But you guys have really um helped us to [1:10:58, 1:11:01]: Кип, іноарнис. [1:11:02, 1:11:18]: and supported us and I rely on you and always look forward to your support. So thank you so much and enjoy your families, enjoy your holidays, stay healthy. And I know I'll see some of your faces uh before the new year, but [1:11:19, 1:11:23]: Just the same. I want to also say I'd be happy to see you in twenty twenty two. [1:11:24, 1:11:29]: All right, perfect. Thank you, Lisa. Perfect sentiment to end our meeting. [1:11:29, 1:11:30]: Madam Chair. [1:11:31, 1:11:37]: Oh yes, sir. Sorry, Mr. Thomas. Councilman Thomas. No problem. I I just want to commend the [1:11:38, 1:11:45]: uh Main Street uh board as well as the Main Street program. [1:11:45, 1:11:48]: Um as part of the elected body. [1:11:49, 1:11:50]: And [1:11:50, 1:11:53]: uh the the direction that we are taking [1:11:54, 1:11:58]: Um, you know, coming out of the past election and [1:11:58, 1:12:00]: We're in the budget cycle now. [1:12:01, 1:12:03]: And you know, we are trying to [1:12:03, 1:12:06]: Uh, look at how we can [1:12:06, 1:12:10]: Uh improve all of our efforts as a team. [1:12:11, 1:12:28]: uh to create a better quality of life for all of our citizens and improve our service delivery. But I I just want to say though as a teammate, uh I appreciate the the the Main Street program and and y'all's value to [1:12:28, 1:12:48]: uh the whole movement. I know Mrs. Bragg, you and Lisa, I know, you know, recently, you know, there have been some comments made. I know Dr. Peterson is aware of that, but um I would just say that um most folks do not, you know, take that view. And uh I appreciate, you know, [1:12:48, 1:12:52]: over the years I've I've been able to to see [1:12:53, 1:13:07]: And to appreciate the effort. And I one thing I can say about this board, um, I may miss a meeting or two here and there because of you know other reasons, but we we have a functioning [1:13:08, 1:13:12]: А нам моем фасиздат, ви авиафонни борй програм. [1:13:12, 1:13:26]: and and we're in the trenches, you know, we're working to to improve the City of Stockbridge. And and I think this is what a a lot of folks see uh when there were no other entities uh you know working. [1:13:26, 1:13:31]: you know, this this board at work and you're visible. So I just know that [1:13:31, 1:13:42]: citizens see this board where they may not even see some elected officials out here working. But I can say that um this board going back to the movies. [1:13:42, 1:13:49]: Uh, you know, when we before the pandemic, I I can just say that, you know, this is a a a a visual. [1:13:50, 1:14:05]: uh board, you know, people see you out here working. And so I just wanted to just say that because um the some of the s uh comments that have been made, uh I thought they was really off and and I have [1:14:05, 1:14:25]: um you know spoken to uh individuals that you know have made some some comments but uh i'll just say that it is not that sentiment is not viewed by the majority of of the council so I just wanna say um I I thank you all and then I commend all of the boys [1:14:25, 1:14:34]: members for being committed uh to you know help making Stockbridge a better place to live and work and play. Thank you. [1:14:36, 1:14:56]: Thank you. And thank you very much. And um I echo um Lisa's sentiments that she um gave earlier, and I thank each and every one of you. It's been a tough two years, and I thank you all for hanging in. And I know that things seem slow, but there is movement. [1:14:55, 1:14:57]: movement and [1:14:57, 1:14:58]: Oui. [1:14:58, 1:15:03]: You're gonna see it in twenty twenty two. And I'm very excited about the movement that you're going to see. [1:15:04, 1:15:05]: Everything stays on track. [1:15:05, 1:15:09]: The way we um are working it behind the scenes. [1:15:09, 1:15:13]: You're gonna be very happy with twenty twenty two and I'm excited about it. [1:15:15, 1:15:20]: Fantastic. Thank you everyone for your comments. [1:15:20, 1:15:21]: And announcements. [1:15:22, 1:15:23]: All right. [1:15:23, 1:15:34]: So last item on our agenda for this year and this month is for us to adjourn our meeting. Do we have a motion to do so? [1:15:39, 1:15:40]: Anybody? [1:15:40, 1:15:46]: Madam Chair, Madam Chair, I move I move that we adjoin the [1:15:47, 1:15:49]: Main Street Advisory Board meeting. [1:15:50, 1:15:53]: Thank you, Councilman Thomas. Do we have a second? [1:15:53, 1:15:54]: I'll suck it. [1:15:55, 1:15:57]: Thank you, Mr. Borton. [1:15:58, 1:16:06]: All right, quickly, uh, we'll do a roll call to acknowledge your answer, uh your vote. Sorry. Uh Miss Finley. [1:16:07, 1:16:07]: Yes. [1:16:08, 1:16:11]: Thank you, Mr. Perch. Yes. [1:16:12, 1:16:14]: Thank you, Miss Gibson. [1:16:14, 1:16:15]: Yes, yes. [1:16:16, 1:16:18]: Thank you, Mr. Hopkins. [1:16:19, 1:16:19]: Yes, yes. [1:16:20, 1:16:21]: Thank you, Mr. Horton. [1:16:22, 1:16:22]: Yes. [1:16:23, 1:16:25]: Thank you, Miss Jones. [1:16:25, 1:16:26]: Yes. [1:16:27, 1:16:30]: Thank you. Miss Potts, yes. Miss Reed. [1:16:30, 1:16:31]: Yes. [1:16:31, 1:16:32]: Thank you. [1:16:32, 1:16:33]: Miss Richardson. [1:16:34, 1:16:35]: Yes. [1:16:36, 1:16:37]: Thank you. And Councilman Thomas. [1:16:38, 1:16:39]: Yes. [1:16:39, 1:16:46]: The mood our meeting is adjourned at 10 27 a.m. on December the 10th. [1:16:46, 1:16:47]: Happy holidays. [1:16:48, 1:16:49]: Yay. [1:16:50, 1:16:54]: Merry Christmas. You all have a happy happy, happy holiday season. [1:16:54, 1:16:55]: Okay. [1:16:55, 1:17:05]: Thank you. And Mr. Councilman Thomas, if you can hang on, um, I need to talk with you. Lisa, um, you hang on and [1:17:06, 1:17:15]: It was one other person that I needed to talk to. I think she's already gone. So anyway, um, if you could hang on, Councilman Thomas, I'd appreciate it. [1:17:16, 1:17:25]: Yes. Merry Christmas. Happy New Year, everybody. I'm gonna hang on for one minute, have one question for you. Okay. I sent you um [1:17:27, 1:17:28]: I sent you a message. [1:17:29, 1:17:29]: Okay. [1:17:32, 1:17:33]: Um [1:17:33, 1:17:34]: Where in the chat? [1:17:35, 1:17:36]: Yes. [1:17:38, 1:17:41]: Yes, um Lisa read the mission statement. [1:17:41, 1:17:42]: Okay, thank you. [1:17:44, 1:17:46]: Vanessa, did you need something? [1:17:47, 1:17:55]: No, I'm getting ready. I'm trying to get off. Oh, well, did you we loved your video? Oh well thank you. Thank you. [1:17:56, 1:17:57]: I appreciate it. It was fun. [1:17:58, 1:18:01]: Yeah. Yes, well I'm glad that you did that for us. Thank you so much. [1:18:02, 1:18:05]: No problem. Y'all have a good one. All right. See you later. [1:18:06, 1:18:09]: Okay. Bye bye. Councilman Thomas. [1:18:10, 1:18:14]: Yes. I'm gonna stop the recording now since the meeting is over. Hold on for a minute.

--- title: Special Called Meeting Via Zoom date: 2021-12-09 source: 2021-12-09_Special_Called_Meeting_Via_Zoom.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:15]: Yeah, I don't see any it's recording. Uh I'll say webinars being recorded. Uh and then I believe we'd had uh some we we our IT guy was traveling or something along those lines. And so um [0:00:15, 0:00:19]: Anyway, we're gonna go forward here. Um, but we got a recording going. Anyway. [0:00:20, 0:00:40]: So I call the meeting order, invocation. I'll do that. Lord, continue to be with us as we continue to do the city's business. Allow us to have a good, profitable, and and uh logical meeting as we continue to uh handle our business of the city and look forward to a outstanding executive session as we look forward to uh selecting uh next city manager for the city. [0:00:39, 0:00:42]: Always Lord in your name. Amen. [0:00:42, 0:00:49]: Uh Mayor Ford, although this meeting uh appears to be recording, it is not live. [0:00:49, 0:01:09]: Okay, I got that. But right now we we got a timeline to stick to. And I'm sorry it's not live, but we're gonna continue on people are coming at a certain time. So we're gonna move on. If we can get it live into time, we will do so. I right now I mentioned earlier that as far as I understand, our our IT guy was traveling and somehow could not get us on live yet. And uh and right now, as far as I know, the PIO. [0:01:09, 0:01:13]: is not available so if you don't mind let's move forward plant allegiance please [0:01:15, 0:01:26]: I pledge allegiance to a flag in the United States of America and to the Republic which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:01:30, 0:01:32]: All right, roll call uh please. [0:01:38, 0:01:41]: Holiday? Okay, I was pressing my button and it went down. [0:01:41, 0:01:42]: Mayor Ford. [0:01:43, 0:01:44]: Present. [0:01:44, 0:01:45]: Mayor Pro Tem Alexander. [0:01:46, 0:01:47]: Present. Councilwoman Barber. [0:01:48, 0:01:48]: I see. [0:01:49, 0:01:50]: Councilman Blant. [0:01:50, 0:01:51]: Resident [0:01:51, 0:01:53]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:01:53, 0:01:56]: President. Councilman Thomas. [0:01:56, 0:01:57]: President. [0:01:57, 0:01:59]: Mayor Ford, you have a quorum. [0:01:59, 0:02:05]: Thank you very much. Um uh council, I need the uh motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:02:05, 0:02:07]: So move is there a second? [0:02:07, 0:02:08]: That's it. [0:02:09, 0:02:13]: Okay, I I got Ms. Gantt taking that. All in favor, please indicate. [0:02:13, 0:02:14]: Okay. [0:02:14, 0:02:18]: All right. Thank you very much. Okay, good Thomas. Okay, is that uh [0:02:18, 0:02:20]: Now I need a motion to go into executive session, please. [0:02:21, 0:02:25]: So move, I'll make a motion that we go into executive session for personnel. [0:02:26, 0:02:28]: Okay, thank you sir. [0:02:28, 0:02:31]: Ms. Gantt, second that again. All in flavor please indicate. [0:02:32, 0:02:40]: Aye. Aye. Thank you very much. Okay. So um Miss Halday, you sent us uh another link to get in a second session, please. Ladies and gentlemen, I'll see you shortly. [0:02:41, 0:02:41]: Okay. [0:02:42, 0:02:43]: Thank you. [0:02:43, 0:02:44]: Okay. [0:02:45, 0:02:46]: Okay. [0:04:18, 0:04:19]: Oh. [0:04:23, 0:04:25]: It's almost the people that [0:04:25, 0:04:25]: That's true. [0:04:26, 0:04:37]: All right. That was really strange, folks. Um I thought I was like, what is going on? Well it uh Mr. Bond, you you threw us a curveball. [0:04:41, 0:04:49]: Yeah. Yes, I thought they were I thought you guys were done. She's just telling me no sir, we were not. Why don't you go back to regular session? [0:04:49, 0:04:50]: Whoops. [0:04:52, 0:04:53]: Yeah. Yeah. [0:04:55, 0:04:57]: You guys can go back since we haven't went live. [0:05:07, 0:05:13]: Okay. Hey, hey, it tell tell them come back to the regular come back to special call regular main meeting. Tell them to come back to that. We'll close it out. [0:05:16, 0:05:17]: You're not muted, Mayor. [0:05:17, 0:05:18]: So this is a recording. [0:05:19, 0:05:22]: Yeah, I'm sorry. You're you're right. Thank you. I'm sorry about that. [0:05:23, 0:05:24]: Thank you, but anyway. [0:05:25, 0:05:25]: Okay. [0:05:26, 0:05:32]: Okay. All right. We're gonna come back to regular meeting and then uh we we've already had our discussion. [0:05:32, 0:05:38]: Right. We know where we're going. Thank you for that. All right. We'll wait till everybody gets here and then we'll close this thing out. [0:05:40, 0:05:47]: Oh, now we're live streaming. Okay. All right. Okay. [0:05:48, 0:05:50]: Are you talking? Is somebody talking? I can't hear. [0:05:51, 0:06:05]: Uh yeah yeah I you I can hear you. We're we're we're okay. Let's see here. What do we got here? We got uh okay, we got four of us back anyway. Five of us, I'm sorry. Five back. [0:06:08, 0:06:10]: Okay. Yeah. [0:06:13, 0:06:16]: We'll wait for a couple of minutes to get poor folks back and we'll close out. [0:06:19, 0:06:21]: Okay, Mr. Thomas is back. [0:06:23, 0:06:25]: Vanessa's coming back. All right. [0:06:27, 0:06:28]: I tell you what. [0:06:29, 0:06:35]: Okay, my number dog's acting up now. Okay, so let's see here. So all right, we got the entire Blount's not back yet. [0:06:38, 0:06:39]: All right. [0:06:41, 0:06:45]: I tell you what, uh [0:06:50, 0:06:51]: I'll tell you what we're gonna do. [0:06:51, 0:06:53]: We're gonna go ahead and uh [0:06:53, 0:07:01]: Well, I need a motion. We got a we've got a quorum here. So I need a motion to uh end our executive session, please. So move. Sir second. [0:07:03, 0:07:10]: I second. Miss Barber had her hand up. She seconds that. Clerk was taking notes. I need a motion to reconvene a special call meeting, please. [0:07:10, 0:07:30]: Some of them okay, Miss Ms. Gantt. Okay. I'll give uh Mayor Pro Tem a second. All right. Um ladies and gentlemen, we've had a special call meeting dealing with uh personnel matters. We uh have nothing to report at this time publicly, and we do have a quorum. Uh so uh we have our guidance, we have a quorum, so I'm [0:07:30, 0:07:33]: I'm gonna ask for a motion to end our special uh special call meeting. [0:07:34, 0:07:37]: Someone. Is there a second? Mayor Pro Tem, is there a second? [0:07:38, 0:07:40]: Mr. Thomas seconds that I [0:07:40, 0:07:41]: We'll stand adjourned. [0:07:42, 0:07:44]: Uh talk to you all soon. Take care. Enjoy your evening. [0:07:45, 0:07:45]: And uh [0:07:46, 0:07:46]: God bless you all. [0:07:47, 0:07:49]: Good night. Good night.