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--- title: November 30 2021 Work Session Meeting date: 2021-11-30 source: 2021-11-30_November_30_2021_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:05:17, 0:05:18]: B. [0:05:21, 0:05:23]: Good evening. Good evening, everyone. [0:05:23, 0:05:27]: And we are recording on Facebook Live at this time. [0:05:28, 0:05:31]: What town do we have here? Okay. [0:05:33, 0:05:34]: Alrighty, so [0:05:36, 0:05:36]: Yeah. [0:05:41, 0:05:43]: Two million. [0:05:52, 0:05:55]: Here we go. All right. [0:06:02, 0:06:07]: Hello everyone. Good evening. Good evening to you. [0:06:08, 0:06:10]: One, two. [0:06:12, 0:06:13]: Three. [0:06:14, 0:06:15]: Yeah, four. [0:06:17, 0:06:18]: Here we go. All right. [0:06:23, 0:06:36]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, I have uh six o'clock and uh like to get this uh council work session Tuesday, November 30th. And uh I'll start it on time. And uh so I'd like to call the meeting to order. [0:06:36, 0:06:38]: And Madam Kirk, roll call, please. [0:06:42, 0:06:43]: Mayor Ford. Mm-hmm. [0:06:49, 0:06:51]: Are you able to hear me, Mayor Ford? [0:06:51, 0:06:51]: Pleasant. [0:06:52, 0:06:54]: May I appro Tim Alexander? [0:06:54, 0:06:56]: President. Councilwoman Barber. [0:06:56, 0:06:57]: President. [0:06:57, 0:06:58]: Councilman Blount. [0:07:01, 0:07:06]: Let the record reflect Councilman Blount is not in attendance. Councilwoman Gantt. [0:07:07, 0:07:08]: Present. [0:07:08, 0:07:10]: And Councilman Thomas. [0:07:10, 0:07:11]: Present. [0:07:11, 0:07:13]: Mayor Ford, you have a forum. [0:07:13, 0:07:14]: Thank you. [0:07:14, 0:07:18]: Okay, please uh I'm gonna do the invocation tonight, so please bow your heads. [0:07:18, 0:07:28]: Lord, thank you for bringing us together once again as we continue to do the city's business. Allow us to make good logical decisions for our movement forward and do the best thing for our citizens. [0:07:28, 0:07:32]: And have a real good dialogue as we continue to [0:07:32, 0:07:35]: do the citizens' business once again as well. [0:07:35, 0:07:38]: Continue to be with us always, Lord, in your name. Amen. [0:07:39, 0:07:43]: Amen. Okay. I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:07:46, 0:08:06]: Well, let me let me put it this, let me say this to you. I'd like to uh entertain an amendment that we uh move our executive session somewhat up into the agenda. Um what it amounts to is that our attorneys uh only have a limited amount of time with us this evening. [0:08:06, 0:08:24]: do some other commitments. So um they uh this is the election night in Atlanta and they have some other commitments in this aspect. So I'd like to entertain a motion that we uh move the agenda after the um old business and before our public hearing on the budget. [0:08:25, 0:08:29]: Well, first of all a question, do do they have something that they need to discuss with us or? [0:08:30, 0:08:40]: Yes, there is something uh discussing with in reference to real estate uh and also a za a Zeka session deals with uh uh any personnel or litigation issues, but primarily this is dealing with real estate. [0:08:41, 0:08:44]: Yeah, this will only it'll only be real estate. Angela. [0:08:44, 0:08:47]: Our real estate attorney is here and um Alan Peterson. [0:08:47, 0:08:48]: I hear. [0:08:49, 0:08:54]: And they wanted to give you all the updates in we have to give you the updates in executive session. [0:08:55, 0:09:02]: Uh so uh so uh so move the mayor like to add an additional uh item to that. Like to uh make a [0:09:03, 0:09:10]: Can we can we at least let let's let's vote on this first? Let's take let's take one at a time. So a motion's been made uh to do that. Is there a second? [0:09:12, 0:09:13]: I think [0:09:13, 0:09:15]: [555.6, 560.2]: Okay, Mr. Mr. Thomas, I believe I got Ms. Thomas' voice. He's second dad. All in favor, please indicate. [0:09:22, 0:09:25]: Okay. All right. So we're gonna put that right behind uh [0:09:26, 0:09:30]: Uh old business and before public hearing. All right, go ahead, sir. Mayor Protestant. [0:09:30, 0:09:37]: Yes, sir. I'd like to add an item to the agenda in reference to speed bumps on Winbrook Drive in the Winslow Eagles Landing subdivision. [0:09:39, 0:09:40]: All right, is there a second to that? [0:09:41, 0:09:42]: I second. [0:09:42, 0:09:44]: Okay, all in favor, please indicate. [0:09:45, 0:09:54]: All right, great, fantastic. And how about uh that is uh how about we'll make that uh new that's new business and so we'll make that item number 14. [0:09:57, 0:10:03]: Now I need a motion to uh adopt the entire agenda for this evening, please. So moved. [0:10:04, 0:10:05]: Is there a second? [0:10:07, 0:10:10]: All three, please indicate. Okay. [0:10:10, 0:10:30]: Thank you. All right. Thank you very much. You name this on that. All right. Uh what you have before you, ladies and gentlemen, are the uh draft minutes involving uh the special call meeting on the 20th of September, the council uh meeting on the eleventh of November, excuse me, the excuse me, uh October 11th. [0:10:30, 0:10:36]: Council, the count a special excuse me, the council work session on the 26th of October as well. [0:10:36, 0:10:44]: And we will actually review those. If there are any changes, please let the uh clerk know and we'll vote on those at our next meeting, which is December uh 13th as well. [0:10:45, 0:10:51]: On that note, uh Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments? We do have one public comment, Mary. [0:10:51, 0:10:51]: Go ahead. [0:10:51, 0:10:53]: Mr. Robert Kolpeck. [0:10:54, 0:10:57]: two seventy two cotton Indian Creek Road McDonald. [0:10:58, 0:10:58]: Okay. [0:10:59, 0:11:03]: And his comment is regarding noise mitigation. [0:11:04, 0:11:06]: For the residents near the amphitheater. [0:11:06, 0:11:10]: And also checking on the water features near the amphitheater. [0:11:12, 0:11:14]: There are no further comments, Mayor. [0:11:15, 0:11:25]: All right. Um we'll give an update to uh all that here in the next few days and Mr. Kolpeck can make uh some type of uh public statement on those issues as well. [0:11:25, 0:11:28]: Water features and noise mitigation. [0:11:29, 0:11:30]: All right. [0:11:31, 0:11:42]: On that note, uh informational session, uh item number four, Falcon Design Projects Update, Status and Timeline, Mr. Palmer and Adam Price, sir. Gentlemen, please. [0:11:48, 0:12:08]: Hey, thank you. Uh Adam, Skip, and Tyler are here. Uh John had to uh had a family emergency. Sorry he couldn't make it, but I think we can uh update you on a lot of projects. Okay. We've got a PDF uh presentation that's slightly different from the one we sent Vanessa, but it's got all the same information in it just a [0:12:08, 0:12:10]: different order. So uh [0:12:11, 0:12:14]: If I can, I will share my screen. [0:12:14, 0:12:15]: Okay. [0:12:17, 0:12:19]: I think they have to let us [0:12:24, 0:12:28]: I think you could loud on the oh there you go. There you go. All right. All right. [0:12:28, 0:12:30]: Hello, this is Angie Robinson at Parker Poe. [0:12:32, 0:12:37]: Yes, ma'am. Uh Hi. Hello, Council and Mayor Ford. How is it? How is everyone doing? [0:12:37, 0:12:44]: Just fine. Uh ma'am, you you're gonna come up a little later in executive session. Yeah, we're doing executive session a little uh earlier, so that's why I sent you so late now. [0:12:49, 0:12:55]: All right, you guys uh ready? Yeah, yeah, go ahead please. And feel free to [0:12:55, 0:13:15]: Uh ask questions. Uh we're going to go through it uh kind of one by one. Uh give you the high points, give you the updates. Uh first up East Atlanta, Lee Street modifications and intersections. Uh you guys want to roll with that? Well, as you know, these projects are already under contract. The contractor [0:13:15, 0:13:27]: out there on Lee Street right now has done all the utility locates, done their ENS. They're in the process of doing clearing operations right now for the entire area. The uh [0:13:28, 0:13:48]: We have received back uh our received uh Atlanta's approval for the new signals on East Atlanta. We have not received the Lee Street signals yet. Uh according to Tyler, the Thomason office is expecting those back immediate anytime now. Uh [0:13:48, 0:14:08]: You know, last week was Thanksgiving. There was probably a lag, but uh that's where we stand on those. And then the East Atlanta had to be resubmitted back to Thomaston uh for their formal permitting uh now that Atlanta's blessed the project. Uh they did approve the street print, and that is now uh part of that signal. [0:14:08, 0:14:28]: plan. So all of that is moving forward and uh we're just waiting on DOT for the last bit of the permitting. And again, we are I I'm sure your city attorneys are going to talk to you, but we are waiting on right of uh access uh to the properties, easements, et cetera. [0:14:28, 0:14:37]: All along those areas. But the contractor, like I told you, is he's going to concentrate on Lee Street, finish Lee Street, then move over to East Atlanta. [0:14:40, 0:14:45]: Sorry. Would you mind uh increasing the view or zooming into this? [0:14:47, 0:14:48]: Thank you. [0:14:50, 0:14:51]: Mm. [0:14:52, 0:15:02]: That's kind of what this is a brief summary of what Skip just went through. Uh the next uh exhibit was uh putting out cell fence on Lee Street. [0:15:03, 0:15:05]: And traffic control also. [0:15:06, 0:15:07]: Uh [0:15:08, 0:15:12]: And that's just a copy of our approved signal plans here. [0:15:12, 0:15:18]: From uh Georgia DOT showing the street print crossings and also the uh [0:15:18, 0:15:25]: The uh black poles that uh I believe we discussed uh some time back, they did approve them. [0:15:27, 0:15:28]: Okay. [0:15:29, 0:15:30]: That's good news. [0:15:31, 0:15:41]: Yeah, but as part of that, we'll there will be a change order that'll come with these projects to handle the street print and to handle the uh pole changes and the signal changes. [0:15:44, 0:15:47]: We'll have to sit with the contractor and get all that worked out. [0:15:51, 0:15:59]: All right. And as our next project's the Lee Street improvements, the parking lot, and the extension of the sidewalk. [0:16:00, 0:16:06]: Uh you know, we we had field visits on the 20th, I guess. You went out there. Correct. [0:16:06, 0:16:11]: Uh concept plan proposed proposed revision was submitted to the city on September twenty-first. [0:16:12, 0:16:18]: Followed up the last week of September, first week of October, waiting on approvals from C to finalize plans. [0:16:18, 0:16:23]: Plans for lease tree park improvements are ongoing, pending final decision from mayor council regarding the additional path. [0:16:24, 0:16:27]: Yeah, you should sketch here's the exhibit. [0:16:28, 0:16:29]: Yeah, you know. [0:16:30, 0:16:39]: Let me zoom out a little bit here. Yeah, if you notice the uh design has changed slightly uh in the parking, no, below. [0:16:40, 0:17:00]: Yeah, here's the Lee Street, the additional parking area. Here's the one. Yeah, initially the parking uh where those hammerheads are was going to go directly into the access to the uh uh roads, but because of topographic issues and traffic, it was determined it was a better flow pattern to get it away from that intersection. So you had three. [0:17:00, 0:17:10]: three different lanes of traffic instead of everybody converging at one. And the one question we we were asked to review, go back up, Adam. [0:17:10, 0:17:23]: That black heavy black line, uh, there was a comment from somebody on the council wanting to put another sidewalk on that side of that access road. And uh [0:17:24, 0:17:40]: Mr. Knighton had asked us to go review that. We did. We uh gave him a cost estimate uh for that work and asked for direction. And we were we're basically waiting on direction on that project right now, but here's the cost estimate for that work. [0:17:41, 0:17:46]: uh to determine if the council does want to put that sidewalk in. [0:17:47, 0:17:48]: All right. [0:17:49, 0:17:54]: All right, council. Any comments on this? Uh we want to go forward with this uh this additional sidewalk. [0:17:55, 0:17:56]: Uh thank Mayor. [0:17:56, 0:17:57]: Go ahead, please. [0:17:58, 0:18:02]: I think we had generally agreed upon that because we wanted the area to go. [0:18:02, 0:18:06]: To be well connected. This is a part of our comprehensive parts. [0:18:06, 0:18:10]: uh connection as well. All of those trails will be connected. [0:18:10, 0:18:11]: Going down uh [0:18:12, 0:18:14]: North Lee Street all the way to Bryant Street. [0:18:15, 0:18:16]: And um [0:18:16, 0:18:18]: It will just be connectivity. [0:18:18, 0:18:24]: And every everything that we wanted uh as part of this project is that we got these trails. [0:18:24, 0:18:25]: Ending. [0:18:25, 0:18:28]: Trails should be continuous at all points. [0:18:28, 0:18:29]: And not in so [0:18:29, 0:18:34]: And I believe uh at that point there was uh even a eighty thousand dollar contingency fund. [0:18:35, 0:18:37]: Still left in the амфітер. [0:18:38, 0:18:40]: uh budget at that point. [0:18:41, 0:18:44]: So do you wish us to proceed with the design on this? [0:18:45, 0:18:46]: Yeah, I certainly do. [0:18:46, 0:18:48]: Uh councillor, any other comments? [0:18:48, 0:18:59]: Yes, I want to know, um, is Mr. Wiggins on the line? I want to know, is this included in the 2021 budget or will we be including this in the 2022 budget? [0:19:02, 0:19:05]: Yeah, so I'm I'm here, Councilman. Um [0:19:06, 0:19:08]: This is this is part of the um [0:19:10, 0:19:11]: That three million. [0:19:12, 0:19:14]: That was slated for um [0:19:15, 0:19:17]: The roads of Atlanta Street. [0:19:18, 0:19:18]: And Lee. [0:19:19, 0:19:24]: So uh we will have to uh take a look at this and see this uh the sidewalk should [0:19:26, 0:19:29]: I just have to check and see. I I'm I don't wanna be uh [0:19:30, 0:19:32]: What three million are you referring to? [0:19:34, 0:19:36]: We had uh three million. [0:19:37, 0:19:41]: That was set up for the road work for the amphitheater. [0:19:42, 0:19:46]: It was um part of the splash four. [0:19:47, 0:19:48]: But you steal in there. [0:19:49, 0:19:55]: Yeah, well let me let me say this. Uh I think the three men was for the inter intersection itself, right there at uh Lee Street and [0:19:55, 0:20:01]: And North Henry's what I thought the three million was for. Uh now I could be mistaken, but that's what I thought. [0:20:02, 0:20:02]: Um [0:20:03, 0:20:08]: Mayor b uh I believe it was part of the entire project, all inclusive. [0:20:11, 0:20:14]: Any other comments? Mayor. Mayor. Go right ahead, please. [0:20:14, 0:20:17]: If the project I've I've before I [0:20:17, 0:20:20]: I mean, I don't definitely don't feel comfortable voting. [0:20:21, 0:20:22]: Until I know. [0:20:22, 0:20:28]: Whether or not we have the money within that three million set aside for the road project for the amphitheater. [0:20:28, 0:20:28]: Um [0:20:29, 0:20:30]: But and then [0:20:30, 0:20:32]: I agree that I think it's where [0:20:33, 0:20:35]: The roads, the East Atlanta and Lee Street. [0:20:36, 0:20:39]: But also my can if it it fits within that. [0:20:39, 0:20:42]: Then I'm I'm certainly okay because money was already [0:20:42, 0:20:44]: set aside and allocate it for it. [0:20:45, 0:20:46]: Um however [0:20:47, 0:20:49]: You know, that does not include. [0:20:50, 0:20:55]: the sound barriers and other discussions that we've talked about for the neighborhood that's directly adjacent. [0:20:56, 0:20:59]: Or uh that's being affected or [0:20:59, 0:21:02]: by the amphitheater. So I do want us to take that into consideration. [0:21:03, 0:21:03]: Um [0:21:04, 0:21:05]: We have other [0:21:05, 0:21:07]: projects and things that we want. [0:21:08, 0:21:08]: Um [0:21:08, 0:21:09]: to consider as well. [0:21:10, 0:21:14]: And I do agree that we do need connectivity with our trails. [0:21:14, 0:21:15]: They don't just stop. [0:21:16, 0:21:16]: They continue. [0:21:17, 0:21:18]: However [0:21:19, 0:21:23]: I don't know what that flow would look like or if that was part of our trail plan to have [0:21:24, 0:21:31]: Sidewalks on both. And as so long as it fits within that three million that was already set aside for that particular area and roads. [0:21:31, 0:21:33]: And I'm I'm great with it. [0:21:33, 0:21:36]: But I think we need to know those answers first. [0:21:37, 0:21:42]: Well they we have Falcon Design on the call. Miss Miss Falcon Design uh [0:21:43, 0:22:03]: Does uh what is the total project cost for these two projects? Is it does it exceed three million or is it uh under over what? Uh yeah, you you would ask me that. I have to go check my numbers uh on what the uh Lee Street East Atlanta projects are on the server. Uh it's in my folders. Hold on. [0:22:03, 0:22:03]: And I'll look. [0:22:06, 0:22:10]: And then in addition to that, we do have a million dollars that we bonded. [0:22:10, 0:22:13]: For uh connectivity and sidewalks. [0:22:14, 0:22:16]: Uh uh in the downtown area. [0:22:20, 0:22:20]: Yeah. [0:22:21, 0:22:27]: Any other comments uh while he's looking out uh why Falcon Design is checking us out. Any other comments from the council? [0:22:28, 0:22:39]: Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. Councilman Thomas. Yeah, go right here, sir. Um, I'm going to agree with everyone as far as what is needed. I would say yes to the need. [0:22:39, 0:22:42]: uh to to enhance the total of Lee Street. [0:22:43, 0:22:47]: But let me confirm I b I believe um this project. [0:22:48, 0:22:53]: came later. I do I do not think it was included uh in that amount because [0:22:54, 0:23:01]: Um, you know, we had sort of talked about the reconfiguration of Lee Street, the traffic light, et cetera, et cetera. [0:23:01, 0:23:04]: Um this project came much later. [0:23:05, 0:23:19]: Um and I think Councilman Blount was the one brought that forward. But I would agree with everyone that it needs to be done. And and if the funds are there, I think we definitely need to do it. Uh and I'm looking at [0:23:19, 0:23:21]: Uh with fact and I see um [0:23:22, 0:23:24]: An estimate on the [0:23:25, 0:23:28]: Lee Street looked like it was ninety two. [0:23:29, 0:23:29]: Um [0:23:30, 0:23:38]: But well, it seemed like you all are back now with with that information. But Mayor, I I'm in agreement that uh this project needs to be enhanced totally. [0:23:38, 0:23:39]: Would Lee Street? [0:23:39, 0:23:47]: Uh we just want to make sure that we can uh financially accommodate uh the total enhancement of [0:23:48, 0:24:07]: There's a minute. Yeah, I hear you. Go ahead, sir. Can somebody tell me what we're looking at? Is that the total cost right there? That's that's the bid cost uh of the the two projects, East Atlanta and Lee Street combined. Yeah, 2.644. And that includes go to the top a built-in contingency as well. [0:24:08, 0:24:09]: Um [0:24:10, 0:24:11]: Of two hundred thousand dollars. [0:24:13, 0:24:13]: Okay. [0:24:14, 0:24:20]: Okay, so the total budget was three million and we have two two six four with a contingency built in. [0:24:21, 0:24:21]: Yes. [0:24:22, 0:24:35]: And just be aware that uh, you know, just the street print alone. We we bid this as an alternate uh because the council had asked for that. Uh and uh yes, it's on there. Go to the bottom. [0:24:36, 0:24:37]: No. [0:24:38, 0:24:46]: I'm going. There you go. Not a big fan, not a big fan of this mouse. Yeah. There's the street print cost. There's your street print costs. Uh [0:24:47, 0:24:56]: uh for the two projects. So it's a hundred um a little over a hundred thousand dollars for both East Atlanta and Lee Street. [0:24:57, 0:24:58]: To do the uh street print. [0:24:59, 0:25:09]: All right. Well I what I saw is I saw a very interesting design. Go back to the rendering. You had like a a circle round a sa around a circle. [0:25:09, 0:25:16]: Uh right there at the um looks like the Lee Street side, there was a bricks, a paved circle there. [0:25:16, 0:25:18]: Is it what I saw? [0:25:20, 0:25:23]: Right at Lee Street in North Henry Boulevard. [0:25:25, 0:25:26]: You want this? [0:25:27, 0:25:35]: Yeah the uh on the approved signal plan that was decent like are are you talking about the approved signal plan? We're talking about this the approves. [0:25:36, 0:25:45]: Yeah there yeah that right there. Yeah that's the East Atlanta intersection. Yeah that's the East Atlanta approval. Okay, that's the East Atlanta one. Okay, and that circle uh is already [0:25:45, 0:25:47]: That's what the plan is right there. [0:25:48, 0:25:48]: Correct. [0:25:49, 0:25:53]: That's beautiful. What so that oh wow. Okay, man, that's gonna be [0:25:53, 0:25:54]: Yeah. [0:25:54, 0:25:55]: Yeah. [0:25:55, 0:25:57]: That's gonna be nice. [0:25:57, 0:25:58]: Okay. [0:25:58, 0:26:00]: All right, uh Councilman Thomas Gray, please. [0:26:01, 0:26:06]: Mayor Ford, my my concern is, and I know we're looking at some numbers. [0:26:06, 0:26:09]: But my concern is um making sure. [0:26:10, 0:26:19]: And I know Falcon has sort of given us that, but making sure that financially we're able to do it seems to be uh three. [0:26:20, 0:26:23]: project. We we're talking about the East Atlanta project. [0:26:24, 0:26:28]: The reconfiguration of Lee Street, the first initial [0:26:29, 0:26:35]: uh project and now we're talking about what we're looking at now the uh lee street [0:26:35, 0:26:38]: extension project and I'm looking at [0:26:38, 0:26:41]: The total estimate project cost [0:26:42, 0:26:43]: And so [0:26:43, 0:26:44]: Yeah. [0:26:44, 0:26:45]: If they're [0:26:46, 0:26:48]: Ms. Holiday, were you trying to get my attention? [0:26:48, 0:26:48]: No. [0:26:49, 0:26:52]: Okay. So my concern is if the funds are there. [0:26:53, 0:26:55]: To do and I'm saying all three. [0:26:56, 0:26:59]: Uh I'm in favor of that and it and it appears [0:26:59, 0:27:02]: Uh, even with the contention that there is enough. [0:27:03, 0:27:08]: um to do it. So um let me ask Falcon um is is my [0:27:09, 0:27:11]: Um assessment, is that correct? [0:27:11, 0:27:19]: It is, but uh the one thing that uh you need to be aware of is those two parking lots that are been added on Lee Street, we have not [0:27:19, 0:27:25]: uh done a cost estimate on those at this point in time. That's another uh dollar value. [0:27:26, 0:27:31]: Okay, so this is strictly that sidewalk going from Lee back into the amphitheater. [0:27:32, 0:27:36]: Right. And and and that that ninety-two thousand uh [0:27:37, 0:27:40]: Uh Mr. Thomas is just this right here. [0:27:40, 0:27:43]: And that goes back to uh Bryant Street, is that correct? [0:27:44, 0:27:53]: Well, it connects to what we were already doing on Lee Street. Um and and that sidewalk does go all the way back to Bryant. [0:27:53, 0:27:58]: Well uh for if if that is the case, Mayor, I I would think then [0:27:58, 0:28:05]: that we we could not make a decision uh if we're still in favor of the the parking spaces there. [0:28:05, 0:28:08]: I don't see how we can um agree or vote. [0:28:09, 0:28:17]: Unless um the additional parking is included, so we would know the total amount unless we're going to. [0:28:18, 0:28:21]: approval this uh in phases. It seems that [0:28:21, 0:28:27]: Uh we have the the financially we are able to do everything ex at this point. [0:28:27, 0:28:34]: That we know of, we're able to do everything except the addition of parking. So I don't know if council wants to approve. [0:28:35, 0:28:40]: to do that and then come back uh to approve the parking or do we want to do it all in one? [0:28:42, 0:28:56]: Well, I would tell you that I know the parking would be separate because it did come after the fact. But I mean it's up to the council decision, but I would tell you I would like for us to approve this this project tonight and then the parking come back for the additional approval uh at a later date. [0:28:57, 0:28:58]: That's my thought. [0:28:58, 0:29:05]: Excuse me, but as as soon as our design is to a point, we'll generate a cost estimate and get it to the council. It should be within the next week or so. [0:29:06, 0:29:22]: Well, Mayor, I I would agree also to make sure that the project is moving forward with the uh East Atlanta Road and with the initial uh Lee Street project. I would agree with you that we definitely need that to move. And I would agree also if we could come back. [0:29:22, 0:29:25]: And to include or to amend [0:29:25, 0:29:30]: uh the parking to the overall project. So I'd be in agreement with that. [0:29:30, 0:29:43]: Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. Yeah, unless we we just we certainly want to do everything that we can to keep these projects moving down the tracks. Uh the sub the spring and the concerts will be here before we know it. [0:29:44, 0:29:44]: That is correct. [0:29:45, 0:29:55]: So uh do I have a motion uh to what we where we what we do here. I need a motion, please. Yes, sir. I'm uh I will motion to approve uh the project as presented, including. [0:29:56, 0:29:58]: The additional uh sidewalk that we had uh [0:29:59, 0:30:00]: Discussed here. [0:30:00, 0:30:03]: To make sure that this project continues moving forward. [0:30:03, 0:30:04]: On time. [0:30:05, 0:30:06]: I second. [0:30:06, 0:30:08]: All right, fantastic. Any further discussion? [0:30:09, 0:30:16]: All in favor to all favor to most questions. One really quick question. So when is this project expected to be complete? [0:30:16, 0:30:17]: More than this is a [0:30:18, 0:30:19]: Yeah. [0:30:21, 0:30:23]: Falcon, can you answer that question, please? [0:30:23, 0:30:24]: Is my [0:30:26, 0:30:27]: I uh we could hear that. [0:30:28, 0:30:35]: When's when's the the project scheduled this particular project we're gonna vote on once approved? When are you expected to be complete? [0:30:36, 0:30:56]: That's going to depend on how you want to handle this. If you wanted to bit we we'd have to go out and you know do the survey, do the design. Uh and then the city has the option of doing a change order with the contractor that's on Lee Street to just have it roll into this project. And so, you know, it would be [0:30:56, 0:31:02]: uh basically continuous with the uh Lee Street project if the council chose to do it that way. [0:31:04, 0:31:07]: When will the Lee Street project be complete? [0:31:07, 0:31:08]: Yeah, uh [0:31:08, 0:31:28]: They have a four month uh timeline on their thing right now. But again, that's weather dependent, everything else. Uh there the entire project that we had was uh almost ten months between the two and that there's not a specific breakdown on Lee Street versus East Atlanta. The breakdown. [0:31:28, 0:31:32]: breakdown is both those projects have to be finished in that 10 month window. [0:31:34, 0:31:36]: Okay. Thank you. [0:31:36, 0:31:41]: All right. Now back to the mo motion has been made and been seconded. All in favor of motion, please indicate. [0:31:43, 0:31:43]: Uh [0:31:44, 0:31:57]: Uh okay. That's an unanimous decision. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Um gentlemen, I need to just get this particular uh piece of this contract and to my desk and I'll sign off on it as soon as possible. Yes, sir. All right, thank you. [0:31:58, 0:31:59]: All right. Thank you very much. [0:31:59, 0:32:19]: Uh this is Angie Robinson. Can I say one thing um just on these two projects? There are private property owners along this project that rights have to be acquired from before construction starts. I'm waiting on um title certifications to be finalized. Some are starting to trickle in and then [0:32:19, 0:32:37]: And we gotta make offers to these owners for the rights that need to be acquired. So and Angela, what do I just wanna have you just do a complete download for us in the executive session? Sure. I just wanna make sure the Falcon folks know and they should know that there's some parcels out there that we can't get on until we have those rights. [0:32:37, 0:32:41]: The contractor is not working on anything except public right of way and city owned properties. [0:32:42, 0:32:43]: Perfect. Thank you. [0:32:46, 0:32:48]: All right. Falcon, please continue. [0:32:49, 0:32:51]: Right. Next project's downtown alleyway. [0:32:53, 0:32:54]: This is [0:32:57, 0:33:05]: Yeah. This is the uh project off of Burke uh backing up to the uh uh downtown businesses. [0:33:06, 0:33:22]: The concept uh has been modified by the city staff recently. We're uh at a point where we produced two new easements or two new cost estimates or adjusted a cost estimate. The talk was to uh, yeah, please. [0:33:23, 0:33:27]: The original plan was to uh put in a uh [0:33:28, 0:33:43]: a uh paver driveway down the alley, put some landscaping adjacent to the buildings, have access to the buildings, and a uh GAB parking lot that was going to be temporary along with the delivery system that was permanent. [0:33:43, 0:34:03]: The uh new thought thought process or new request was to modify that and uh and we've already got drawings accordingly. You you don't have it here, but uh we've got approved drawings. Well, these are the approved drawings from the city that we just got back, but uh the new S the new uh [0:34:03, 0:34:23]: Request from the city staff was all the area adjacent to the uh buildings would no longer be landscaped, it would just be solid concrete uh going to the face of the buildings, and that the parking lot itself would become uh a paved parking lot. Uh so we uh looked at the costs on. [0:34:23, 0:34:35]: on that and essentially from the original cost estimate it it increases the cost of the project by about fifty thousand dollars to do what the uh uh you know [0:34:35, 0:34:39]: What's the difference between option one and option two? Option one is the original option. [0:34:40, 0:34:42]: Yeah, that's three hundred ninety five thousand dollars. [0:34:42, 0:34:48]: And option two is with the paving. So it's basically about$50,000 increase. [0:34:50, 0:34:57]: and and taking away some of that landscaping against the building and making it a a solid impervious surface. [0:34:58, 0:35:00]: So question. Go right in, sir. [0:35:00, 0:35:05]: So the beautification is in the landscape. And so is there a cosm is there a [0:35:05, 0:35:11]: Is there an engineering reason for moving the beautification or is it just a cost? [0:35:11, 0:35:31]: It was it was more a maintenance issue, but uh the beautification is going to be in the islands around the parking lot and the pavers. Uh and then right against the building, it's going to give them more usable space uh for their areas. We have a we have some screening uh at the back doors of [0:35:31, 0:35:50]: of each one of these uh facilities, a little uh privacy fence type thing where they can hide some of their stuff uh to keep it out of the way. But uh essentially it would be a lot more efficient from a maintenance standpoint and uh usability standpoint for those property owners. [0:35:51, 0:35:57]: Well, I'm certainly in in a pro in I certainly approve the paving instead of a having a gravel parking lot. [0:35:57, 0:35:58]: But they're also [0:35:59, 0:36:01]: Uh I I I approve of that. [0:36:01, 0:36:01]: Yeah. [0:36:02, 0:36:16]: Well, our the question I would have then is, you know, the uh we were asked just to look at paving. So we're talking about paving on the ground. Would you want to make this a full-fledged parking lot with curb and gutter and all that to really dress it off? [0:36:18, 0:36:38]: Well the question okay, that's a good point. But so the question is how much additional cost would that be that process as well? Uh curbing gutter is about twenty-five dollars a foot. I I don't know, you know, I I would say you got four or five hundred feet and there'll be a little bit more fill because you're changing you we'll be raising those islands essentially. Uh, but that's about [0:36:38, 0:36:50]: it, uh a little bit of maybe a little storm grains, you're probably looking at another uh$10,000 to$15,000 in that range for that kind of work. [0:36:51, 0:36:53]: All right. Mayor. Yeah, go ahead, sir. [0:36:54, 0:36:57]: Let me just say this for me and I'm speaking for me only. [0:36:57, 0:36:59]: Is that whatever we do? [0:36:59, 0:37:01]: We want to do it right. [0:37:01, 0:37:03]: Putting this parking lot there. [0:37:03, 0:37:06]: without curb and gutter would not be right. [0:37:06, 0:37:08]: And then if if we [0:37:09, 0:37:10]: The with what we have [0:37:11, 0:37:11]: Mm. [0:37:12, 0:37:15]: Co completing this parking lot in itself. [0:37:15, 0:37:27]: Some of this should be infrastructure uh that's necessary in order to do that to be able to use water and sewer funds and uh pot potentially uh ARPA funds, is that correct? [0:37:29, 0:37:33]: Because this is this that's this is considered infrastructure, isn't it? [0:37:35, 0:37:49]: Seemed like it would be be right. I don't know if other anybody has any other comments on that or not, but uh we'll have to check into to make sure that we can utilize those funds. But I'm I'm in agreement with you. I I figure that we should be able to dress it up properly. Um [0:37:50, 0:37:55]: Anyway, um if if you're done, Mayor Potem, I'm gonna move on. Uh Miss Braggs, you have your hand up. [0:37:57, 0:38:06]: Yes, sir. Um I just wanted to make the comment with regard to the curb and gutter. The reason we um originally [0:38:07, 0:38:09]: Um had this slated for [0:38:09, 0:38:12]: Um just the gravel parking lot. [0:38:12, 0:38:18]: was because we wanted to make sure that this space was still available for future development. [0:38:18, 0:38:20]: We did not want to put in [0:38:20, 0:38:26]: a great deal of asphalt, sidewalk material, curb and gutter, that sort of thing. [0:38:27, 0:38:31]: because we wanted it to be development ready. [0:38:32, 0:38:34]: Um putting in the additional asphalt. [0:38:34, 0:38:39]: In all of the other um accoutrements that you all are speaking of. [0:38:39, 0:38:46]: might make it less attractive for a developer to come in and want to have to remove all of that. [0:38:47, 0:38:57]: But with that being said, I do want to say that after we had our meeting with the property owners in that area. [0:38:57, 0:39:12]: they were very um in favor of having at least the areas that are currently paved, um the asphalt area that is currently paved to to be repaved again. So they were uh very much [0:39:13, 0:39:18]: um against the gravel. So that is why I requested that [0:39:18, 0:39:22]: um Falcon um our Falcon designers go back and [0:39:23, 0:39:24]: Um put in [0:39:24, 0:39:25]: The [0:39:25, 0:39:28]: Asphalt give us a cost on the asphalt. [0:39:28, 0:39:33]: Um because they did make that request that the gravel not be put in place. [0:39:34, 0:39:35]: But um I [0:39:36, 0:39:39]: do want to caution us with regard to the curb and gutter. [0:39:39, 0:39:45]: Um, if we want to attract some development for that space because we are trying to create [0:39:46, 0:39:50]: that city square that was depicted in our RSVP. [0:39:50, 0:39:57]: We don't want to do a lot of infrastructure in that space if it's going to be torn out eventually by a future developer. [0:39:59, 0:40:06]: Well, I d I don't know if that's well, I I understand that, but uh additional parking space is always something I think we would need as well. But once again [0:40:06, 0:40:10]: was have to get query the the council on what time thoughts you have. So the [0:40:10, 0:40:24]: Anybody else on the council have any other comments? Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please, sir. Uh yeah, before Mrs. Bragg spoke, that was going to be my concern. I I think whatever we do in that area, I'm I'm in favor of the the parking area, but I think [0:40:25, 0:40:28]: Everything we do have to line up with the [0:40:28, 0:40:32]: Overall uh comprehensive plan. [0:40:32, 0:40:36]: uh for uh our our downtown um [0:40:36, 0:40:37]: re redevelopment. [0:40:37, 0:40:44]: So um I I'm gonna agree with Mrs. Bragg and I I think we may have to revisit that. [0:40:44, 0:40:48]: To make sure that everything we do, we don't want to waste money. [0:40:49, 0:40:56]: uh um you know with curbing gutters if it's not if those uh spaces are not conducive to [0:40:57, 0:41:01]: the overall plan because um and I don't want to get too far into [0:41:02, 0:41:10]: um, you know, uh businesses coming in and that that kind of conversation. But I think we need to keep in mind that we are [0:41:10, 0:41:11]: uh opened. [0:41:12, 0:41:15]: uh for business uh in that particular area. [0:41:16, 0:41:17]: So [0:41:17, 0:41:18]: Not [0:41:18, 0:41:27]: Getting too deep into this discussion. I think we need to make sure that everything that we do in that area fits. [0:41:27, 0:41:30]: With the overall master plan. [0:41:30, 0:41:33]: for revitalization in our downtown. [0:41:34, 0:41:35]: Oh yeah. [0:41:35, 0:41:36]: Go ahead, sir. [0:41:36, 0:41:38]: I just have one question. So [0:41:38, 0:41:44]: Uh this area is designated for parking in the RSVP, is it not? [0:41:46, 0:41:52]: No, sir. That particular area is designated for um future construction. [0:41:53, 0:42:13]: What what is what was going to be constructed there? Because it's behind what is this? This is behind what? The this is behind um Martin Luther King Senior Heritage Trail. This is the area that is right next to um Fletcher and Sons automotive. The grassy area is beside Fletcher and Sons at the bottom of the screen. [0:42:13, 0:42:21]: Screen that kind of moved it off of the if you move that move it the page back up, you'll see Fletcher and Sons on the corner. There's a grassy area there. [0:42:22, 0:42:29]: And then there is a paved area at the top of that grassy area. And that is currently where. [0:42:30, 0:42:32]: Um there is some parking, but that [0:42:32, 0:42:39]: particular um area. The asphalt is very broken and um unsightly at this point. [0:42:39, 0:42:44]: Where where is the Ted Strickland parking at? I see Ted Strickland. Where's the parking? I don't see it indicated. [0:42:45, 0:42:57]: Right behind, yeah, where the cursor is right now. That's where um parking is currently available for the Ted Strickland. And that is where the old um police station was taken out. [0:42:57, 0:43:12]: Okay, so okay. So how um I'm now I'm totally confused. So how would the park I I thought that's where we were in in this drawing. I thought we were behind uh the Ted. But this is the empty park, that is the parking lot. [0:43:12, 0:43:13]: That lines up [0:43:14, 0:43:16]: Uh where it is uh it's currently vacant. [0:43:16, 0:43:17]: There now, correct? [0:43:18, 0:43:18]: Yes, sir. [0:43:20, 0:43:21]: Okay, so [0:43:22, 0:43:26]: If this was not in the RSVP, how did we end up with [0:43:26, 0:43:29]: The parking suggestion there versus [0:43:29, 0:43:31]: Improving the parking behind the tid. [0:43:33, 0:43:53]: Um this was not necessarily a parking improvement project. This was just to um correct some of the um I guess drainage issues that are in the back of the alleyway and in that particular lot, and also to correct um the asphalt issues. There are potholes and other um [0:43:52, 0:43:53]: Um [0:43:53, 0:43:57]: I guess unsightly conditions in that particular area. [0:43:58, 0:44:05]: So it was basically just to clean it up and to um pave the alleyway itself. [0:44:05, 0:44:10]: Okay, so in the RSVP then this is the anchor building location. [0:44:11, 0:44:16]: When you refer to anchor building the the mixed the right right below where when you [0:44:17, 0:44:24]: When you're looking at the rendering of the video on the RSVP, there's a mixed use building in this location. Is that correct? [0:44:25, 0:44:40]: It is a mixed use it mixed juice is um prescribed for that particular space, the entire space, and then if you were to move past the Ted Strickland, um there is also um future proposed mixed use. [0:44:40, 0:44:45]: Um past the Ted Strickland on Berk Street. So if you were to move the um [0:44:46, 0:44:47]: The map up a little more. [0:44:47, 0:44:55]: You would be able to see where the other proposed development is. Well, well, that that's what I'm saying. I'm totally confused because I thought we were right. [0:44:55, 0:45:14]: behind uh where the TED is. No, this should not even no sir. This should not be behind the you're actually behind CNL Beauty Salon, um the um Barrie Street building and the building that the city currently owns, which is one fourteen MLK. [0:45:14, 0:45:26]: So so in essence, none of this parking should be there because we should be focusing on improving the parking behind the TED, which is which I thought this is what we were doing. So in essence [0:45:26, 0:45:27]: This should be [0:45:27, 0:45:28]: uh [0:45:28, 0:45:32]: raw land or uh t in order for the future [0:45:32, 0:45:35]: possible anchor building to go in this location. [0:45:36, 0:45:43]: That is what is proposed for that site, some sort of future development. And that was the reason why we initially [0:45:44, 0:45:50]: did not want to put down asphalt and make this into a parking lot. People park there now. [0:45:51, 0:45:53]: Бфорче перпис. [0:45:53, 0:45:56]: We plan to have a building there. [0:45:58, 0:46:01]: Okay. N now now I understand. I thought we were behind [0:46:02, 0:46:12]: uh the TED and we were working on improving the parking behind the TED, which which is what we should be doing. But uh any behind the TED is a part of the Breezeway. [0:46:13, 0:46:13]: Mm-hmm. [0:46:13, 0:46:24]: The Breezeway connectivity that is proposed as phase two of this project would handle the parking behind the Ted Strickland, but that is a part of phase two. [0:46:25, 0:46:32]: the breezeway portion. So in essence, this is a totally new project that has been introduced into what what was going to happen. [0:46:33, 0:46:40]: No, sir. This is not new. We've been talking about this parking is a totally new phase. [0:46:40, 0:46:46]: 'Cause this parking wasn't this parking is this so this parking is not part of the RSBP at all, is it? [0:46:47, 0:46:52]: This is parking that was already existing there. That's why I was saying we were not trying to [0:46:52, 0:46:56]: put asphalt we were going to have just a gravelled um [0:46:57, 0:47:02]: space back there so it would be ready for development. However [0:47:02, 0:47:06]: There has been some um when we spoke with the [0:47:07, 0:47:11]: current property owners um when we had our meeting [0:47:11, 0:47:21]: they were not in favor of having um gravel placed back there because they have been used to having asphalt parking back there. [0:47:22, 0:47:27]: But that is up to the council as to whether or not they would want to put [0:47:27, 0:47:29]: Asphalt back there to [0:47:29, 0:47:33]: Um accommodate those um business owners who [0:47:34, 0:47:40]: are currently parking back there and would like to see asphalt returned back there or if you would like to [0:47:40, 0:47:43]: um start moving toward having that area. [0:47:44, 0:47:46]: uh prepared for future development. [0:47:46, 0:47:51]: So in essence what will happen is the you would put the asphalt back there temporarily. [0:47:52, 0:47:56]: Uh yes, sir. Okay. Okay. Now I I I I was off base. I I I [0:47:56, 0:48:00]: I pull back. So yeah, that would be my recommendation. [0:48:00, 0:48:00]: Okay. [0:48:01, 0:48:16]: Councilman Thomas, go ahead, please. Uh yes, Mayor Pro Tem, I was going to um suggest and recommend that you do pull back somewhat because I I think your orientation is is a little off on on the on the on the projected plan. [0:48:16, 0:48:18]: And I I think some of your [0:48:18, 0:48:21]: uh understanding could be had [0:48:21, 0:48:22]: Offline. [0:48:22, 0:48:25]: Uh but it but yeah, I I mean [0:48:25, 0:48:28]: Just knowing the plan, I I would say that [0:48:28, 0:48:29]: Yo [0:48:29, 0:48:48]: You're miss you're misunderstanding uh what's actually to come, but um since you've already pulled back, I would just sort of just let it go at that and we move on. And I think uh some of your questions and concern could be answered uh offline somewhere because we don't really want to get too deep into [0:48:48, 0:48:50]: Um, you know [0:48:50, 0:48:52]: Some of the [0:48:52, 0:48:54]: discussions of [0:48:56, 0:48:57]: And I'll leave it at that. [0:48:59, 0:49:19]: All right. So back to you, Falcon. So otherwise, uh, for you you asked about curve and gutter. So I would think now that um that is off the table at this point. And um you're just going to uh submit or or or talk to us about some of some of this uh paving to be done and this. [0:49:19, 0:49:21]: Aspect is what I gather now. [0:49:26, 0:49:46]: Yes. Uh like I say, we were we understood it was supposed to be temporary parking, but when the asphalt was introduced, that's when we, you know, wanted to know how long a frame, whether or not you wanted to do the aesthetics of that, et cetera. But that's not a problem. Uh we'll we can put that all together. [0:49:46, 0:50:06]: As a matter of fact, we already have uh they're finalizing all of that as we speak. And then the only thing that would be uh since we do have approved uh design plans from the city staff, uh the only thing that we would be waiting on, which I guess the attorneys will talk to you some more about is is easements and uh acquisitions. [0:50:06, 0:50:08]: Along that the alleyway. [0:50:09, 0:50:11]: Okay. Yeah. [0:50:11, 0:50:17]: Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. The the appropriate question is is when when when will this project start and when will it end? [0:50:17, 0:50:19]: Now that we've made this decision. [0:50:20, 0:50:24]: Uh it's gonna be totally up to the acquisition of properties. [0:50:24, 0:50:25]: Oh. [0:50:27, 0:50:27]: All right. [0:50:28, 0:50:38]: All right. And so um attorneys, uh you obviously this is somewhat new to you at this point. And and uh you have any idea how how how long this may take? [0:50:42, 0:50:48]: But hope was and tell me, Ms. Robinson, what you think. We were going to these were all going to be things we're going to discuss in executive sessions. Okay. [0:50:49, 0:50:53]: I could just say title works in the process right now. All right. Okay. It's for Falcon's benefit. [0:50:53, 0:50:56]: Okay, thank you. All right, Falcon, continue on, please. [0:50:58, 0:51:01]: All right, uh next project. [0:51:02, 0:51:06]: Is Smith Barnes sewer collection system rehab force main rehab and replacement. [0:51:07, 0:51:21]: Yeah, that's bidding this week. Uh we're waiting on that. That's a C D BG project, by the way, that uh yeah, the city's getting uh a little over three hundred thousand dollars uh in grant money for this work and uh [0:51:21, 0:51:35]: Uh hopefully we'll uh as soon as we get get the bids in and we bet the contractors and the you know the the uh council approves a award, uh we'll we'll be putting a contractor to work. [0:51:37, 0:51:41]: All right. Thank you. Any questions, counsel, about this? [0:51:43, 0:51:48]: I do, I do have a question. Go right here, please. Uh project award and execution of contracts. [0:51:48, 0:51:52]: is estimated to be an additional sixty days. Why is that? [0:51:53, 0:52:11]: That's the time frame that you the city is basically taken uh from the time of award till uh execution or time of posting of bid to award. Yeah. That's all that's all. It's it that's been the norm that's uh happened uh currently. [0:52:14, 0:52:34]: I mean it's gonna be posted for 30 days for bid. Well it's already been posted. It's bidding this week. Yep. Uh the contracts will come out. Uh like I say, contractors, the procurement department will vet the contractor and uh make recommendations to the council. But uh like I say, uh previous projects have been [0:52:34, 0:52:38]: Approximately sixty days before council uh awarded contract. [0:52:39, 0:52:42]: Okay, no, we need to cut that down to at least 30 days. [0:52:42, 0:52:47]: after council approves the recommendation to award. [0:52:47, 0:53:07]: That should be less than 30 days. Well, once the council approves recommendation award and we're notified, uh we immediately send out the contract documents to the uh contractor for execution and then they return to the city for you know for their side of it. So again, uh as fast as uh [0:53:07, 0:53:15]: uh the council award or makes the award, uh contracts will be going within a day or two to the contractor. [0:53:15, 0:53:20]: Right. So that sixty days that you have there it sh is a bit [0:53:21, 0:53:21]: Much. [0:53:22, 0:53:23]: Hello. [0:53:23, 0:53:36]: Should actually be lingered to that's just an arbitrary number. That other projects that have been recently have taken about that long before we got a recomm before we were notified that the council had awarded the uh approved the award. [0:53:37, 0:53:38]: Okay, thank you. [0:53:41, 0:53:42]: Any other questions? [0:53:43, 0:53:45]: All right, continue on, please. [0:53:46, 0:53:50]: Sign design, wayfinding signs. [0:53:52, 0:53:53]: We got an update on that. [0:53:57, 0:53:59]: Go right, yeah. [0:54:01, 0:54:01]: Yeah. [0:54:03, 0:54:23]: Again, uh we've met with the city staff. Uh we're going to they want to do an overlay of uh uh the wayfinding signs with other operations that are currently going on and uh try and work on phasing the uh these signs in and do a site-specific. [0:54:23, 0:54:34]: design for each one, but the city staff is going to be doing the research on where they want to put where the signs will do the most for the city. [0:54:35, 0:54:46]: These were some of the documents. These are the signed design documents that were uh reviewed by the city. Well they they were submitted to the city back in August and we're waiting for approval. [0:54:47, 0:54:48]: Okay, maybe. [0:54:48, 0:54:49]: Yes, sir. [0:54:49, 0:54:55]: Okay. Uh uh with all due respect, that we have made the decision on where the signs were going to go. [0:54:55, 0:54:56]: This council [0:54:57, 0:54:57]: In a retreat. [0:54:59, 0:55:03]: plotted out where we wanted the signs to be with you on the call. [0:55:07, 0:55:25]: We we have the location, but now you talk about site specific issues that the sign has to fit that area and there's probably for for like the gateway signs, there's gonna have to be land acquisition, et cetera. And that's what uh the uh development people want to take a look at uh in-house. [0:55:26, 0:55:31]: This is I imagine this is part of our executive session issue that we need to discuss, I b I would imagine. [0:55:33, 0:55:34]: Is that correct? [0:55:35, 0:55:35]: Mm. [0:55:36, 0:55:42]: I don't know anything about w uh I don't have a way finding signs and um matter open at Parker Poe. [0:55:43, 0:55:44]: Okay. [0:55:46, 0:55:47]: All right. [0:55:49, 0:56:02]: So well what I'm scrolling through and showing you are the plans, the formal design plans that were submitted for approval from the city. If you're wondering what I'm scrolling through. [0:56:04, 0:56:10]: And these were the uh plans a while back that were approved by uh the city in a meeting. [0:56:13, 0:56:33]: All right. So the d delay is because we need additional acquisition of something. You said here earlier. Is that what it there's going to be required uh some land acquisition for some of these signs? Uh the in meetings with staff it was determined that the the initial push would be to go ahead and get all the uh wayfarers. [0:56:33, 0:56:53]: Finder pedestrian signs in the downtown corridor and uh move forward with those and uh then do the like I say site specific uh where you actually have to go to a property and determine whether it fits, how how it fits, and uh you know, on on these larger signs that uh [0:56:53, 0:57:00]: are going to have to acquire either easements or actual you know fee simple property. [0:57:02, 0:57:03]: Yeah. [0:57:07, 0:57:27]: So the way ahead is to go forward and do this, correct? Nothing. We like I say the city staff is working on this as we speak and they'll be giving us direction very shortly on on uh if they want to do the phase one uh or you know do it in phases or whether [0:57:27, 0:57:42]: they want, but they were going to go look at physical locations and determine you know accessibility and uh usability and and whether it was uh reasonable property for these type of activities. [0:57:43, 0:57:47]: Okay, so when you say staff, who specifically is gonna go out? [0:57:48, 0:57:59]: Well we were talking we were talking to Becca and her staff. Brecca. Brecca, I'm sorry. Brecca Johnson. Um guys, if if if I may, uh Mayor, if I may. [0:57:59, 0:58:19]: So myself, Deshus Aaron and Alan Peterson um have met with Falcon to discuss, you know, what the project is. Of course, we've been brought into it, you know, over the last you know, couple of weeks and just trying to get an understanding of what you know how many signs are being proposed, funding sources, which is a must, and [0:58:19, 0:58:35]: what how we're gonna phase the project. So that is what's happening now. There has not been provided any quotes for any of the signs. So that is something that staff will reach out to a couple of sign companies to get that information so that we can determine [0:58:36, 0:58:49]: what where the funding sources are going to be, how much it's going to cost, um, so that we can move forward. We're thinking with downtown because that overlay area for downtown has already been outlined. [0:58:49, 0:59:01]: And with future annexation needs and things like that, we want to make sure that we take some time to go back through and ensure that we're properly assessing each of those signs. [0:59:04, 0:59:08]: And so I'm I'm confused because I thought [0:59:08, 0:59:11]: When the council reviewed this and [0:59:11, 0:59:20]: We identified the areas in which these wayfindings were going to go and which types of signs to use in various locations. [0:59:20, 0:59:22]: I thought falcons. [0:59:22, 0:59:25]: was going to get quotes on who was going to [0:59:26, 0:59:30]: Prepare the sounds, build the sounds, but non teles. [0:59:30, 0:59:36]: When should we expect that all these signs will be installed? [0:59:36, 0:59:40]: or at least the first phase, as many as they can be installed. [0:59:45, 0:59:55]: Ms. Barber, I would say that in working with the consultants, we have to establish costs initially and where the funding source is going to come from. [0:59:55, 1:00:00]: Um once that's established, we would bring back something to the council. [1:00:00, 1:00:03]: For us to move forward with that phase again. [1:00:03, 1:00:07]: the initial portion would be the downtown area since it's already established. [1:00:07, 1:00:13]: And we definitely want to have some signage uh for what you see on the screen for the areas in the downtown area. [1:00:14, 1:00:15]: Okay, Mr. Wiggins. [1:00:16, 1:00:18]: Um wayfinding signage. [1:00:18, 1:00:21]: Was that not in the budget for 2021? [1:00:22, 1:00:24]: More too, multiple. [1:00:24, 1:00:28]: Yeah, it was in there. We was gonna use some hotel motel. [1:00:28, 1:00:29]: Okay. [1:00:29, 1:00:34]: But we initially haven't hadn't gotten I I have not seen any kind of cost. [1:00:34, 1:00:36]: For the science. But [1:00:37, 1:00:41]: Like uh Councilman Zana said, hotel motel was the primary source. [1:00:43, 1:00:51]: Okay. All right. So now that we've established where the funding is going to come from, when should we expect? [1:00:51, 1:00:55]: That at least the first phase of these signs will be installed. [1:00:56, 1:00:58]: Were ordered and installed. [1:01:03, 1:01:20]: If if the city wants to do this in phases and do the pedestrian wayfinders, we can put together a package right now that uh where you put it out for bid. Uh and you know go through your procurement department or or your procurement department can go directly, however you want to do it. [1:01:25, 1:01:35]: All right, so let's do it the most effective but but uh effective way, cost efficient way and uh with the right data and information and do it in phases and start with the downtown area if we can. [1:01:36, 1:01:37]: And may Mayor. [1:01:37, 1:01:38]: Yes, sir. [1:01:38, 1:01:47]: Uh with all due respect. Uh I think what we really want was the focus here was to get these signs up to get people to the amphitheater. [1:01:47, 1:01:52]: It wasn't to focus on downtown'cause when people come, they're gonna be coming primarily. [1:01:52, 1:01:57]: to get to the amphitheater. So to direct people off the interstate to [1:01:57, 1:02:04]: uh the amphitheater was uh the was the primary goal of what we were trying to do here, I think. So um [1:02:07, 1:02:11]: All right. So but I'm sorry, maybe we need to poll the rest of the council, but I thought that was [1:02:12, 1:02:15]: What we were trying to do was to get people to Merrymanders to [1:02:15, 1:02:17]: I give people to the amphitheater. [1:02:17, 1:02:24]: And that thing, that was the part that not necessarily cause I re really was in downtown but the amphitheater right now. [1:02:26, 1:02:26]: Mayor. [1:02:27, 1:02:32]: Yes, sir. Go ahead. Yes, ma'am. Go ahead. I'm sorry. Well, that wasn't mine, Tit. We've we've spoken of the way [1:02:33, 1:02:35]: Finding signs. [1:02:35, 1:02:37]: Even prior to our downtown [1:02:37, 1:02:39]: I mean, even prior to the amphitheater. [1:02:39, 1:02:41]: I think that there's just a need. [1:02:42, 1:02:45]: in general for our wayfinding signs to include Merrill Manders. [1:02:46, 1:02:48]: Um that has been there and and [1:02:49, 1:02:54]: that our community well at the time of Ted Strickland and Mirmander that our community [1:02:54, 1:02:58]: And other communities use on a weekly basis. [1:02:59, 1:03:01]: So I I thought it was important that we had it [1:03:01, 1:03:03]: For our future purposes. [1:03:04, 1:03:05]: And and now it's even [1:03:06, 1:03:08]: enhanced important [1:03:08, 1:03:10]: Because of the amphitheater. [1:03:10, 1:03:15]: I can agree with that, but that wasn't my reasoning for wanting the white finding signs. [1:03:15, 1:03:19]: No, I agree with your assessment, which is the second assessment which was [1:03:19, 1:03:24]: It was the overall. But my point was that the amphitheater made it urgent. [1:03:28, 1:03:35]: All right. So the priority would be the w wayfinding on the on the major roadway or the downtown area. [1:03:37, 1:03:54]: And uh I think the major road area would be c will cost uh will we'll have to have uh more time in reference to, I guess, dealing with the rights of way, things that nature. I'm only assuming that. But anyway, um, what are the thoughts we have here before we as we try to make the decision how we want to go forward? [1:03:57, 1:04:09]: My thoughts are to get as many of them up as we can. Yes. And then proceed with further, you know, and proceed with the the others when when they're available when we when we're able to. [1:04:09, 1:04:15]: All right. What is that focus on downtown? Is that focus on six seventy five and seventy five? Where does that where's that focus? [1:04:18, 1:04:23]: As many as you can. I mean, what where's the where if if we're gonna do in phases, what's the primary what's the first phase here? [1:04:27, 1:04:41]: I'm thinking uh along the seventy-five, I think we're talking about the same thing. We're trying to get people to downtown. Okay. But the way that they're the way that they're gonna get there is through our seventy-five and and and the major intersections. [1:04:41, 1:04:45]: getting them there. So I think we're really talking about the same thing, is it [1:04:45, 1:04:46]: We just [1:04:46, 1:05:00]: Uh we wanna do them all, but they're all gonna eventually going to be done. But what needs to be done first? I mean to me, we got four thousand people coming to town twice a month for a whole season. That will see appear to be those folks [1:05:00, 1:05:04]: Who don't know the city, who aren't aware of what we're doing. [1:05:04, 1:05:16]: can get to downtown. We could put the Merle Manders is going to be on thattt sign too. City Hall is going to be on the same sign. All of those businesses in downtown, not just the amphitheater, is going to be on the sign. [1:05:20, 1:05:20]: Correct. [1:05:23, 1:05:24]: Mr. Thomas, do you have any comments, sir? [1:05:29, 1:05:34]: had to get off the mute. I I would agree with that assessment. I I think once folks [1:05:35, 1:05:39]: on the outskirts coming in. I think once they are in downtown. [1:05:39, 1:05:42]: I think some of these location become obvious. [1:05:43, 1:05:44]: Um, but again [1:05:45, 1:05:47]: What is the um [1:05:48, 1:05:49]: Immediate [1:05:50, 1:05:54]: Um completion, what can we get done now? [1:05:54, 1:05:57]: What is gonna take longer to to to have done? [1:05:58, 1:05:59]: But I would agree that [1:06:00, 1:06:02]: Once you get folks into downtown. [1:06:02, 1:06:06]: And then I think some of these other locations become obvious, but [1:06:06, 1:06:11]: But just to answer your question, what we can get done now, I think we need to get that done. [1:06:12, 1:06:14]: Um and then you you it [1:06:15, 1:06:17]: If if some of the other things are gonna take longer [1:06:18, 1:06:36]: then that becomes, you know, sort of problematic. But um basically though, if you get them into downtown, I think some of these other locations become obvious, but I do agree we have to make a decision tonight. So we can definitely keep keep moving forward and getting the wayfinding because it's it's been way too long already. [1:06:37, 1:06:51]: So if I understand correctly, then we're looking primarily initially part of phase one would be the from the major highways, major roadways to get folks directed to the downtown area versus concentrating on what's internally the downtown. Is that so I don't understand? [1:06:51, 1:06:53]: I I would say so because [1:06:53, 1:07:00]: Uh folks on the outskirts are not gonna be able to see it anyway if they can't get downtown. So you got to get them downtown first. [1:07:00, 1:07:01]: All right. [1:07:02, 1:07:14]: So with that said, if that's the the way the phase one, then uh how can not only Falcon, but how can our staff go ahead and work towards this process so we can get this phase one taken care of as soon as possible? [1:07:15, 1:07:20]: Well, mayor, if I may continue, I I I think some of the the smaller details [1:07:20, 1:07:25]: I think the staff and faculty will just have to come together and get some of those things or iron out. [1:07:25, 1:07:28]: I I think if we give them the approval. [1:07:28, 1:07:32]: Uh we want to start with the outskirts first. [1:07:32, 1:07:42]: I think that's our um obligation and responsibility. Then I think from that it get handed off to faculty and the staff for them to work out the small details. [1:07:43, 1:07:43]: All right. [1:07:45, 1:07:48]: All right, so this we need to put that to a a vote, a motion and a vote. [1:07:49, 1:07:50]: I would say so. [1:07:50, 1:07:51]: Go right in, sir. [1:07:53, 1:07:54]: I need a motion. [1:07:55, 1:07:55]: And a second. [1:07:58, 1:07:59]: What would the motion be? [1:08:00, 1:08:14]: Mayor Pro Tem, would you like to go ahead and make that motion? Yes, sir. I will make a motion that we tas staff with uh working on the major arteries to get to funnel people uh into downtown uh as the priority in the phase one. [1:08:14, 1:08:16]: uh of the [1:08:16, 1:08:18]: Wayfinding signage as we move forward. [1:08:19, 1:08:21]: Uh in an expeditious manner. [1:08:21, 1:08:22]: I second that motion. [1:08:23, 1:08:24]: All right. Any further discussion? [1:08:25, 1:08:27]: If not, all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:08:28, 1:08:28]: Uh [1:08:29, 1:08:29]: Okay. [1:08:30, 1:08:33]: Ms. Barber, I can't see your hand. Let me move. I guess you voted for that. [1:08:33, 1:08:37]: Okay, there you go. Thank you very much. All right, thank you for that. [1:08:37, 1:08:47]: All right, so now we have our marching orders there. Um okay, Falcon, any any anything else further in your presentation? Yes. Yes. Go right ahead, please. [1:08:52, 1:09:12]: As you know, the the LMIG project uh uh was held up because of a contractor uh confusion. Uh that project, LMIG 2021, as the notice proceed was issued effective March 2022, which is when the contractor could go to work. That one's uh in the basically contractor. [1:09:12, 1:09:32]: Contracted and ready to go. LMIG 2022 is being bid the end of this month. And we expect that one to start almost the same time when it's released. So that you'll have, I think that's a total of almost 31 or 32 roads getting resurfaced at [1:09:32, 1:09:52]: that time. Uh then Love Street, go to the go to the next. Uh and I'm sure the uh attorneys will be discussing this with you. Uh this is the fire station on the corner of Love Street and uh MLK. And you see the blue line. [1:09:52, 1:10:12]: Based on deeds that have been able to be found, the blue line is what we have found that is owned by the city, which means the building extends beyond that. So the uh attorneys are trying to research and find additional documents. [1:10:11, 1:10:17]: documentation to show what the actual limits of uh ownership are in that area. [1:10:20, 1:10:26]: Okay. We'll we'll have further discussion about that. I'm pretty soon, pretty sure. Yeah, yeah. [1:10:28, 1:10:48]: And then the only other issue we have is you know the miscellaneous stormwaters uh projects. Just to let you know, the Hudson Bridge Drive, which was a major undertaking, uh they're wrapping that up uh this week. Uh the new pipes are in. We had to build temporary uh lanes for the for the [1:10:48, 1:11:06]: community that live behind in the county. But all the pipes have been repaired, everything's been replaced, and they're pouring the curving tomorrow to put everything back in place and we're good to go. They're moving to the Magnolias at Eagles Landing next, which will be next week. [1:11:06, 1:11:26]: And uh scheduling the work that was uh approved in that area. And uh the needletop work, uh the attorneys have gotten us access to all of that. Uh that will be the third project in line. And then uh the 103 turning point, uh, there are easements outstanding on that. I'm sure the attorneys can. [1:11:26, 1:11:27]: Can discuss with you. [1:11:30, 1:11:31]: Okay. [1:11:31, 1:11:51]: That's that's the needlepoint project where we've just uh just to let you know what happened there is there if you see the uh dashed lines there, those are existing stormwater, no the big lines. Those are existing stormwater system that you own. Uh and somehow or another, this particular [1:11:51, 1:12:11]: Area that shows all the grading. The property owner did some clearing there and buried everything so that nothing could drain into that area. And we're just cleaning it up and opening it back up so that you now have can drain that basin into the existing collection system. [1:12:11, 1:12:15]: That's what's happening at that particular site. [1:12:17, 1:12:17]: Okay. [1:12:19, 1:12:39]: And this is turning point. You've got the same issue where you've got stormwater being discharged behind a property that goes into the backyards of all these property owners. And uh we're having to modify the backyards to uh create a collection area that's gonna take that apart uh and and mitigate all the uh [1:12:39, 1:12:48]: water going to the back of these housing homes. And again, that one will move forward after the easements are obtained. [1:12:50, 1:12:51]: Okay. [1:12:53, 1:12:55]: And that is it. [1:12:55, 1:12:55]: Two. [1:12:56, 1:12:59]: Thank you. Any further questions, Council? Before they depart. [1:13:01, 1:13:03]: Okay, concealing. [1:13:03, 1:13:17]: All right. Thank you, gentlemen. Appreciate uh appreciate that. That's um uh things that we needed to vote on, we voted on. Other other than that, I guess is informational for us. I don't think there's any other votes that are needed this time. [1:13:18, 1:13:25]: Okay. All right. Thank you. Thank you. And uh you obviously you can stay as long as you like, but uh thank you for your time. Appreciate it. [1:13:26, 1:13:33]: Uh Carter Sloop project update, status and timeline, uh Chad Petson, uh if if I pronounce it properly. [1:13:35, 1:13:36]: Peddon, I guess it is. [1:13:37, 1:13:42]: Good afternoon, Mayor and Council. It's uh it's Pedon, actually. Excuse me, Pedon, excuse me. [1:13:43, 1:13:45]: Good to be here with y'all. Um [1:13:45, 1:13:48]: I'm gonna share my screen really quick, if you'll bear with me. [1:13:53, 1:14:00]: I believe y'all may have seen this document already. This is a summary of the current projects that we have. [1:14:00, 1:14:14]: Uh to start at the first one, it's the wastewater treatment plant and Glen Addy pump station improvements. We're actually so I'm sorry, Mr. Pedon, we don't see anything on screen. You see are you trying to show your screen? We don't see anything at this time. Yes, sir. [1:14:15, 1:14:18]: There we go. Looks like it's coming up now. Okay, there we go. [1:14:19, 1:14:20]: Okay. [1:14:20, 1:14:25]: You're seeing the project status report now, sir? Right, sir. Fantastic. [1:14:25, 1:14:26]: Oh my god. [1:14:27, 1:14:27]: Okay. [1:14:29, 1:14:30]: Can you make it any larger, sir? [1:14:32, 1:14:32]: So [1:14:33, 1:14:33]: Zoom in. [1:14:37, 1:14:38]: Great. Thank you. [1:14:38, 1:14:40]: Yes, ma'am. Thank you. [1:14:41, 1:14:57]: So the first project is the wastewater treatment plant in Glen Addy Pump Station Improvements. We're working on change order number three. Change order number three was replacement of the decanters in each of the SPR basins at the wastewater treatment plant. [1:14:57, 1:15:17]: We completed installation of the West Basin uh the week before Thanksgiving and we have the East Basin scheduled to be completed next week. Once that's finished, we'll address punch list items and have this project closed out the first of January. So this one's been a long time coming. [1:15:19, 1:15:19]: Yeah. [1:15:21, 1:15:41]: Next project is the Maze Crossing Lift Station Rehabilitation and Force Bane Replacement. This project has been bid. It's been awarded by council, and the contracts are actually with procurement. We're waiting on the contract agreement to be executed and then schedule a pre-construction meeting with the contract. [1:15:41, 1:15:43]: So we can start construction. [1:15:45, 1:15:46]: Okay. [1:15:48, 1:16:07]: The next project is the Burke Street sewer main rehabilitation. This project has also been bid out. It has been awarded by counsel and the uh the city's attorney is reviewing the contracts now and we're preparing to get those to the contractor for execution and then back to y'all. [1:16:07, 1:16:10]: And then we can get that project started as well. [1:16:13, 1:16:14]: All right. [1:16:14, 1:16:24]: The uh the next project that we have is a utility relocation. This is for uh State Route 138 and 42. This is right there in front of the Walmart. Yes, sir. [1:16:26, 1:16:32]: Uh uh I am a qu somebody has a question, I'm sorry. Yes, I do. Uh Mail Mayor Ford and Mr. Yeah, go ahead, sir. [1:16:33, 1:16:33]: Listen. [1:16:33, 1:16:39]: Could you elaborate somewhat on the uh Berk Street uh sewer? [1:16:39, 1:16:42]: uh rehab and and and m my thinking is [1:16:43, 1:16:43]: Um [1:16:44, 1:16:47]: You know, Burke Street is is that particular area that [1:16:48, 1:16:51]: uh we are highlighting, we're concentrating on. [1:16:51, 1:16:55]: Uh is that any information that we need to know that's going to [1:16:56, 1:17:00]: Um you know, infrastructure, you know, for sure. [1:17:00, 1:17:03]: uh in in preparedness of [1:17:03, 1:17:13]: future development in that particular area. Is there anything that you just want to share with us to give us some insight uh on on our future development in that particular area? [1:17:15, 1:17:35]: I I'm not sure about the future development in the area, but I I can't elaborate a bit on the project. So the existing sanitary sewer main in that area is in uh a degraded state. There's sections of cast iron pipe um with significant tuberculations that's minimized the capacity of the line through there. [1:17:35, 1:17:55]: As well as sections of clay pipe that have collapsed. And actually, I believe that operators have jetted out pretty large substantial pieces of the pipe. And so the condition of the pipe is in bad shape. What we have done is we've evaluated the capacity and the condition of those lines. [1:17:55, 1:18:15]: And come up with a plan to replace or rehabilitate those sections, depending on the issues that are present in those lines, whether or not we can line the pipes, whether we can uh pipe burst or have to open cut those sections. And the scope of work actually extends from the part right there at Brush Creek. [1:18:15, 1:18:27]: Creek all the way up to Highway 42. Right there. I believe it's um Bridge View Cafe is the scope of work, from there all the way into the park. [1:18:28, 1:18:33]: Yeah, I I think that's really important because any future development I think [1:18:33, 1:18:36]: Um, you know, people need to know that. [1:18:37, 1:18:57]: The infrastructure along that area has been upgraded. And I reason I ask for you to elaborate on that, I just think uh potential investors and developers need to know that that has been taken care of. And so that is great information to know. And I think for any future development, uh that is just good information. [1:18:57, 1:18:59]: information uh t to be known. [1:18:59, 1:19:03]: So I just want to thank you uh for um just elaborating on that. [1:19:04, 1:19:06]: Yes, sir. Absolutely. [1:19:06, 1:19:10]: I yield back, Mayor. Thank you. Thank you. No problem. Go ahead, sir. Please. [1:19:11, 1:19:31]: Okay. The uh the next project is the utility relocation. This was in front of Walmart. Um we have submitted second submission relocations to GDOT. At this point, they are in property acquisition and we are on hold until they come back with a let date. So [1:19:31, 1:19:34]: So at this point we're pencils down, waiting on G Doc. [1:19:36, 1:19:56]: The next project is water system modeling and hydraulic improvements. We completed and submitted a technical memorandum back in July of this year. We had a couple recommendations in that memorandum on improvements that the city could make to their distribution system. [1:19:56, 1:19:58]: System um [1:19:58, 1:20:08]: And the city has actually moved forward with some of those uh recommendations and we'll discuss those later in the 2021 water system improvements. [1:20:11, 1:20:12]: Okay, great. [1:20:14, 1:20:26]: The next project is the wastewater treatment plant pole barn. We're approximately 60% complete on design. We have uh we have geotech work scheduled. Um [1:20:27, 1:20:47]: I I believe it's going to be in the next couple weeks. Um, once we get the geotech, we'll be able to lay out and design the foundation. Um, and then once we have the foundation design, we can do the structural design, the connection of the columns to the to the slab or the footing. And uh once [1:20:47, 1:20:58]: Once that's done, we we anticipate having this out to bid sometime early in the first quarter with a completion date of uh around the first of the following year, 2023. [1:21:01, 1:21:02]: All right. [1:21:05, 1:21:15]: So the the next project is the 2021 water service line replacement. Um I don't know if you recall, this project was actually bid out. [1:21:15, 1:21:35]: Um, I believe it was in 2018, and uh there was not sufficient funding for that project, so it was shelved. Um the city came back and asked us to revisit this. We looked at that, they identified some additional areas with frequent leaks and uh issues that were causing operations. [1:21:35, 1:21:55]: Operators to go out after hours and have to replace service lines and interrupt service of the ratepayers. And so we consolidated that and have a design. We have construction plans and specifications ready to bid, but we actually included this project in the ARPA app. [1:21:55, 1:22:03]: application. And so we're on hold until we get um confirmation on funding from ARPA. [1:22:05, 1:22:10]: Okay, Mr. Wiggins, uh this is covered under our funding, correct? [1:22:10, 1:22:10]: No problem. [1:22:11, 1:22:11]: All right. [1:22:12, 1:22:14]: Yeah, a l a l a lot of these projects here. [1:22:15, 1:22:17]: uh wooden source [1:22:17, 1:22:19]: It's gonna be covered by Opera Phones. [1:22:20, 1:22:26]: Yeah, that's mayor. Yeah, I was thinking we had the funds already for this, I thought already. Some of those funds anyway. [1:22:27, 1:22:27]: Yeah, mayor. [1:22:28, 1:22:30]: Yeah, we have opera phones written. [1:22:30, 1:22:32]: Okay. To use. Yeah. [1:22:33, 1:22:37]: We have funds, proper funds to use for this right now. Is that correct? [1:22:38, 1:22:43]: Yes, um death is putting putting putting putting stuff in as they come in. [1:22:45, 1:22:57]: Mr. Mayor, this is Dash's this project is part of, you remember a couple of weeks ago, the last meeting we submitted that letter to go out to additional ARPA funding the governor had. Right. [1:22:57, 1:22:59]: The part of that governor's opera. [1:22:59, 1:23:00]: Okay. [1:23:01, 1:23:05]: All right. All right. Thank you. Thank you. That's what I needed then. Mirapal Tim, you ask something, sir? [1:23:07, 1:23:08]: You answered it. Thank you. [1:23:08, 1:23:10]: Okay, good deal. Here we go. [1:23:11, 1:23:12]: All right, thank you. Um [1:23:12, 1:23:16]: Mr Mr Pettin, if I've g got pronounced please continue. [1:23:17, 1:23:37]: Yes, sir. So the the next project is is um the 2021 water system improvements. I'm mentioned that briefly earlier. We had identified some some uh areas in the distribution system that we felt like could be improved to um to help the city's resilience in the system. Um [1:23:37, 1:23:54]: And so what the city did is they authorized us to move forward with design. We're at approximately 80, we're actually closer to 90% complete with the design right now. And similar to the water service line replacement, we're we're [1:23:54, 1:24:01]: fundamentally on hold for bidding until we get notification on the um the state governor's ARPA funding. [1:24:02, 1:24:03]: Okay, thank you. [1:24:05, 1:24:17]: The next project is the GIS program for water and sanitary sewer. We've actually been in the field collecting data the last few weeks. [1:24:17, 1:24:37]: They've been uh they've been actively working on the w the water and the wastewater. So they're not just isolated on one at this point. So um I do not have a tally of how many points they've collected to date, but I believe that they're about 20% complete right now. We we uh anticipate. [1:24:37, 1:24:40]: having all of this complete. [1:24:40, 1:24:44]: Early to mid March of of uh twenty twenty two. [1:24:45, 1:24:46]: Okay, thank you. [1:24:48, 1:25:08]: Uh the Waterway Memorial Park and Pine View lift stations, uh, these are reabutations of all three of those lift stations. Um, it also includes the replacement of the Waterway and the Pine View Force lanes. Um, we're approximately 40% complete as a whole. [1:25:08, 1:25:28]: We're a lot further along with Waterway and Memorial Park. If you will recall, the Pineview Lyft station was added later. And so we're we're not quite as far along with Pine View as we are with Walterway and Memorial Park, but we are as a whole probably around 40%. [1:25:28, 1:25:29]: Mm-hmm. [1:25:30, 1:25:50]: The uh the force main, the Walter Way Force main is is 30 percent complete in design. The Pine View um surveyors were on site the week before Thanksgiving. They started surveying that. And so as soon as we get that survey information, we will uh we'll be able to finish up the design on that and [1:25:49, 1:26:00]: continue to move forward. So we're uh we're looking at getting this one out to bid sometime in the first quarter of March and and possibly April. [1:26:02, 1:26:02]: All right, sir. Thank you. [1:26:04, 1:26:24]: Uh 2021 wastewater treatment plant improvement. So this was uh this was not a design project yet. We uh we did some preliminary engineering evaluating some options to uh improve operations at the wastewater treatment plant, particularly the influent pump station and the the [1:26:24, 1:26:44]: Blowers that uh provide oxygen to the digesters. And so we are approximately 80% complete. We actually visited the locust grove wastewater treatment plant yesterday with the operators and the sewer superintendent, and uh we looked at a uh installation. [1:26:44, 1:26:57]: application of some blowers that uh that we may possibly use for this project. So now that that um that visit's complete, we'll have a report ready and submitted to uh [1:26:57, 1:27:04]: to the city around the end of the year and then hope to move into design sometime in the first first of next year. [1:27:07, 1:27:07]: All right. [1:27:09, 1:27:15]: Uh North Bridge Station Sanitary Sewer Real Rehabilitation. This sewer um [1:27:15, 1:27:35]: Sewer line is similar to in condition to the Birch Street sewer line that that's uh getting ready to go into construction. And so um right now we're about 90% complete with the survey. I actually uh I looked at a survey file earlier today. We need a few more points. Um [1:27:35, 1:27:55]: The surveyor was on site today, and I think he may be out there a couple days though later this week. And so once we get that, we'll be able to hit that head on with design. Um, one one thing of note, this is a a pretty significant rehabilitation project, and so the construction time is extended on this, and it's it's reflecting. [1:27:55, 1:28:07]: reflective if if you look at the anticipated completion date over here of September 1st, 2023, there's a pretty significant construction period for that project. [1:28:09, 1:28:12]: Yeah. Okay. Thank you. [1:28:14, 1:28:34]: The uh the last project is the sewer manhole rehabilitation. Our our scope of work was to provide permitting through uh GDOT. And so that was completed. Our GUPS permit was uh authorized back in September 20th, 2021. And so at this point. [1:28:34, 1:28:38]: point we're waiting further instruction from the city as needed. [1:28:40, 1:28:45]: When you say further instruction, I'm I'm I'm maybe I'm dumbfounded here. What what what do you need what else you need from us in this aspect? [1:28:45, 1:28:52]: It i if we can provide assistance on any other aspect of the rehabilitation of those manholes. Um [1:28:52, 1:29:06]: we we would be ready to do that. So but at this point we've we've provided the permit and uh I believe the the city has hired the annual contractor to complete that work. So if they run into any issue that they have questions on, we we would be ready to assist. [1:29:07, 1:29:11]: Okay. Mr. Aaron, can you uh expound any further on this particular item? [1:29:12, 1:29:15]: This is the project that council approved. [1:29:15, 1:29:19]: I guess about two months ago for site engineering to go in a rehab. [1:29:19, 1:29:22]: The manholes that are like on North Henry Boulevard and [1:29:23, 1:29:23]: Okay. [1:29:23, 1:29:28]: So this is a project that's ongoing and if they run into anything. [1:29:28, 1:29:30]: out of the ordinary then. [1:29:30, 1:29:35]: Carter and Sluke will provide assistance on how to remedy that situation. Okay, good deal. Good deal. [1:29:37, 1:29:45]: Okay. Uh uh thank you, uh Mr. Pedden. Appreciate that. It's Council, any other question for yeah, then uh Councilman Thomas, go ahead sir. [1:29:45, 1:29:48]: Uh m Mr. Aaron, um [1:29:48, 1:29:51]: Not necessarily tonight. Um [1:29:52, 1:29:58]: I'd like to reach out to you or you can reach out to me, the the manhole that's on um North Henry. [1:29:58, 1:30:04]: Uh there are a number of them and if I remember correctly, there was some discussion about [1:30:04, 1:30:07]: Um responsibility of those. [1:30:08, 1:30:12]: Um, I'd like to reserve uh the opportunity to speak to you about [1:30:13, 1:30:13]: Um [1:30:14, 1:30:17]: All of the man holes on North Hinder know. [1:30:17, 1:30:19]: You indicated before. [1:30:19, 1:30:22]: That many of these manhole covers were [1:30:22, 1:30:26]: Uh outside of the uh North Henry. [1:30:26, 1:30:29]: uh parameters. So I'd like to get back with you. [1:30:29, 1:30:30]: Give me um [1:30:31, 1:30:36]: a listing of of of those and I I do recall some of those in some of the other subdivisions. [1:30:37, 1:30:40]: My concern though is with all of the ones that's on North Henry. [1:30:41, 1:30:45]: And I'm not sure if if all of those is going to be taken care of. [1:30:45, 1:30:48]: Uh my memory somewhat [1:30:48, 1:30:52]: Think that some of those manholds on North Henry. [1:30:52, 1:30:56]: uh was not included uh i in the scope um [1:30:56, 1:30:58]: Am I am I misinformed? [1:30:59, 1:31:11]: Well, there are some manholes that are not City of Stockbridge manhole. They might be ATT vault or some other utility, but the city is taking care of all the ones that are the city's responsibility that belong to the sewer system. [1:31:12, 1:31:17]: Okay, so with that being the answer, so what are the what are we doing? [1:31:18, 1:31:25]: to communicate with those other entities to make sure that um all of the manholes are are being taken care of. [1:31:28, 1:31:29]: Well [1:31:29, 1:31:33]: I don't know if we have contacted those entities directly, but we can. [1:31:34, 1:31:42]: Like I said, we can only repair our manholes. We can't do anything with theirs, but we'll definitely reach out to GDOT and those other entities. [1:31:42, 1:31:45]: And and Mr. Aaron, and the reason I say that. [1:31:45, 1:31:47]: When when when when pr when when [1:31:47, 1:31:50]: Vehicles and citizens are traveling not in [1:31:51, 1:31:54]: They don't get in c they don't get caught up in who they belong to. [1:31:55, 1:31:58]: They did they just know that they need to be repaired and so [1:31:59, 1:32:03]: We would think that that the council and the city would be proactive. [1:32:04, 1:32:20]: just to make sure it gets done. And so that would be my recommendation. And I'm only just one person, but it just needs to happen. Communication needs to go forward to make sure that all of the manholes covers on North Henry Boulevard are raised because [1:32:21, 1:32:28]: Citizens don't understand that they just know when their cars go up and down, it's you know, the wearing chair on their ties in their vehicle. [1:32:28, 1:32:30]: And it just it's just unpleasant. [1:32:30, 1:32:33]: And and it it it all goes back into [1:32:34, 1:32:40]: What we're trying to enhance the quality of life for citizens here in the city of Stockbridge. So [1:32:40, 1:32:50]: Uh the other council member can sort of weigh in on that, but I just think that somehow, somehow, communication needs to be done so we can make sure that all of the manhole covers are taken care of. [1:32:50, 1:32:51]: Oh no, Henry. [1:32:52, 1:32:52]: Mm-hmm. [1:32:53, 1:32:54]: You go right ahead, sir, please. [1:32:54, 1:32:59]: Yeah, here here to that man. I just did the obstacle course yesterday. [1:32:59, 1:33:02]: Trying to dodge the potholes on North Henry Boulevard. [1:33:02, 1:33:06]: And you're right, Councilman Thomas. The citizens just want to get it fixed. So please [1:33:07, 1:33:10]: uh reach out to ATT or any other entity to get [1:33:10, 1:33:14]: uh this problem fixed and let's get this on the fast track. [1:33:14, 1:33:16]: To get the problem solved that we [1:33:16, 1:33:24]: uh we're responsible for literally yesterday I'm on this obstacle course just trying to dodge and trying to figure out when the next one's coming up. [1:33:24, 1:33:28]: So I know I'm not the only one. I hear this from citizens all the time. So [1:33:28, 1:33:29]: Move forward, please. [1:33:30, 1:33:33]: And and and Mayor, if I may, we we just won't [1:33:33, 1:33:35]: We want the city to be proactive. [1:33:36, 1:33:37]: Um [1:33:37, 1:33:57]: You know, I hate to have to come back and and ask and and and suggest. Let's just be proactive. If if there's a problem, let's get it done. Uh if we have to reach out to other uh entities to get it done, let's be let's be pro-thinking, uh moving forward just to get it done. [1:33:57, 1:34:00]: This is something that should have just just happened anyway. [1:34:02, 1:34:02]: Thank you, Mayor. [1:34:03, 1:34:05]: Okay, no problem. Any other council comments thus far? [1:34:08, 1:34:09]: Is the patent anything else, sir? [1:34:10, 1:34:10]: You know? [1:34:11, 1:34:13]: No no, sir. Thank y'all for your time tonight. [1:34:13, 1:34:18]: Thank thank you, sir. Appreciate it. You can you're welcome to stay as long as you like. Appreciate it. Thank you very much. [1:34:19, 1:34:23]: Kekin Wood, updating stats timeline. Carl, please. [1:34:24, 1:34:29]: Evening mayor and council. I want to share my screen here. [1:34:30, 1:34:30]: Uh [1:34:34, 1:34:41]: Let me know when you see my screen. We we see projects uh the summary update. We see that now. Thank you very much. Okay. [1:34:42, 1:34:49]: Uh so and Heather Hubble is uh with us tonight also. We're gonna kind of tag team some of these things and she's got a [1:34:49, 1:34:53]: An in depth presentation on the Cultural Arts Center, which we'll get to in a minute. [1:34:54, 1:34:56]: I wanted to start with [1:34:56, 1:34:59]: uh the amphitheater and let you know where we're at on that. [1:35:00, 1:35:10]: Uh first of all, is the is this print large enough or do I need to expand it anymore? Just a little bit, sir. Probably be good. Yeah, that's that's probably good right there. [1:35:11, 1:35:11]: All right. [1:35:14, 1:35:34]: Okay, um so we all know the construction is complete. We've completed the punch list and the contractor has submitted all the closed out documents to the city. Uh really the last piece that remains as far as the contractor is concerned um in in completing [1:35:34, 1:35:35]: News. [1:35:35, 1:35:43]: uh obligations is to get a certificate of completion on the phase two parking. And I will talk about that in a minute as to why that's not yet obtained. [1:35:44, 1:35:47]: uh on the financial status um [1:35:48, 1:36:03]: We're we're still holding retainage on the contractor, five percent of the value of this contract, which is about a million dollars. Uh he's the contractor has asked for reduction under this and this will be under consideration this week in discussions with the uh city staff. [1:36:04, 1:36:05]: Um [1:36:05, 1:36:13]: Certainly I think uh some some retainage reduction would be in order. We just need to decide on uh exactly what would be appropriate. [1:36:14, 1:36:28]: Um and then there were several changes, uh scope changes near the end of the project uh that we've not yet finalized the cost with a contractor. We've been a little bit back and forth on a few things. [1:36:28, 1:36:35]: Uh we have a meeting set up uh with him Friday of this week to bring this to a conclusion. [1:36:35, 1:36:55]: uh and and get these uh uh change order amounts agreed to and uh and we'll be able to finalize the total contract amount. All of these are within the project uh budget. Uh it's within the the um uh funding that was approved, revised funding that was approved. [1:36:55, 1:36:59]: uh last February. So this is strictly kind of an internal [1:37:00, 1:37:05]: uh finalization of some of these minor changes that occurred. [1:37:06, 1:37:15]: Okay, Carl, scoop excuse me for a second, Carl. When you say contractor, are you referring to H J. Russell contractor? H J. Russell, yes. Okay. All right. Just want to make sure I understood. Thank you very much. No problem. [1:37:15, 1:37:25]: Uh so we have three additional considerations on the project that would be um that would not be able to fall within the [1:37:25, 1:37:27]: Approved project budget. [1:37:27, 1:37:33]: Uh so I want to kind of briefly touch on these and where we're at with those. Um we have been contemplating [1:37:34, 1:37:39]: uh adding car charging stations to the uh in the parking lot um [1:37:39, 1:37:41]: And we have I have [1:37:41, 1:37:45]: Obtained the costing on that and then given that to [1:37:45, 1:37:51]: Um, to Miss Johnson, I think she's going to bring that up in a future meeting for approval. [1:37:52, 1:37:52]: Um [1:37:53, 1:37:58]: The the the good thing about this car charging project, if you move forward with it. [1:37:58, 1:38:09]: Um the the actual infrastructure, which is the uh uh all the electrical, it's the the the transformer of the underground cables out to the car charging station. [1:38:10, 1:38:17]: Uh will be done at no charge to the city through Georgia Power. They have a uh program called the Make Ready Program where they [1:38:17, 1:38:34]: uh do all that infrastructure work free of charge. Um we do have to sign an agreement with them and I've given that to to Ms. Johnson to um uh to consider that uh and get that work going. So even if you don't elect to approve [1:38:34, 1:38:37]: The installing the car charging stations. [1:38:37, 1:38:45]: Certainly you would not want to miss the opportunity to get the infrastructure put in at no at no charge by George Power. So [1:38:45, 1:38:55]: Uh the car charging stations, there'll be uh what we call dual point stations. There are five stations. Each station will have two charging points, so you'll have a total of 10 charging points. [1:38:56, 1:39:00]: uh the cost of that was a little over sixty thousand dollars [1:39:00, 1:39:06]: Uh that should be coming up um to uh to city council on a future meeting for approval. [1:39:07, 1:39:09]: Say sixteen thousand or sixty. [1:39:09, 1:39:13]: Sixty sixty six zero. [1:39:16, 1:39:36]: Uh the second item was uh another owner requested change. Uh there was a lightning strike earlier this year after the project was substantially complete, and there was uh some uh minor amount of components that had to be uh repaired. Uh so uh the project team was at [1:39:36, 1:39:56]: Has to look at the budgeting to add a lightning protection system to uh to the buildings. Um that study is still in the works, uh so we'll bring that up later. Uh, but that's not a small amount of money. Um, the first brush at looking at this. Uh [1:39:56, 1:40:01]: Uh if we just did a very comprehensive lightning protection system would have been [1:40:01, 1:40:12]: in the two hundred thousand dollar range, but there are some lesser scope uh considerations that might be effective. Um, or you just may choose not to do that at all. [1:40:12, 1:40:17]: Uh certainly lightning protection on low rise buildings uh is not. [1:40:17, 1:40:20]: A normal expense that's usually reserved for [1:40:21, 1:40:23]: uh mid rise, high rise buildings, but [1:40:23, 1:40:31]: Uh we just want to do all the due diligence that the city has asked for to get some budget numbers put together to see if the city wants to pursue that. [1:40:31, 1:40:51]: Carl, uh stand by please. Carl, uh, what does that entail? What what do you mean? Lightning protection, what does that mean? What what does that do? Sure, good question. Um, so if you probably have seen on some of the the taller buildings around town, uh little spikes sticking up around the edge of the roof, uh, those are lightning uh leaders. [1:40:51, 1:40:52]: Mm-hmm. [1:40:52, 1:41:12]: Uh they're tied into some cables that that ground um any kind of lightning strike uh to keep it from moving through the building and through through systems in the building and protects the building. Um so this would involve you can imagine going back and putting all of these little antennas around all these buildings. [1:41:12, 1:41:14]: And the stage and the whole bit. [1:41:14, 1:41:31]: uh not very sightly um would be very expensive and it's um you know it's gonna be up to uh to the city and city council as to whether they want to pursue that. Um but the lightning damage I think it was a right around twelve thousand dollars of some [1:41:32, 1:41:45]: equipment that needed to be replaced. A lightning protection system, a full bore, over$200,000. It's just gonna be a kind of a risk assessment as to whether or not you would want to proceed with that. [1:41:46, 1:41:50]: Okay. Coun Councilwoman Barber, you had your hand up? [1:41:51, 1:41:55]: No, um Mr. Trevithon actually answered my question. Thank you. [1:41:55, 1:41:57]: Okay, uh Mayor Protam, go ahead, please. [1:41:58, 1:42:05]: Yeah, I I certainly would not want to do that. I think the issue that if you look at like the tall building, the skyscrapers in the city. [1:42:06, 1:42:09]: Those buildings have uh those systems installed. I think [1:42:09, 1:42:12]: For us, this is a outside building and [1:42:12, 1:42:22]: God forbid something did happen. Man,$200,000. I think we could cover it. So I I don't think that would be a wise investment for us to do that. [1:42:25, 1:42:26]: Okay, yeah. [1:42:27, 1:42:32]: Because I mean the damage really would come in the fact that there would be some type of fire or whatever. This building [1:42:32, 1:42:36]: It's not enclosed. We don't have a roof on it. That kind of thing. [1:42:39, 1:42:48]: Well, I'd like to ask Mr. Trevadon, um, do you know specifically what damage was caused earlier this year as a result of this lightning strike? This is the first I'm hearing about it. [1:42:49, 1:42:59]: Uh yeah, it was just uh some equipment. Um I think we're a little bit related to the fire alarm. I think there was some some damage to the fire alarm panel that was replaced. Um [1:42:59, 1:43:04]: I'm trying to recall now it was more equipment related. Um [1:43:04, 1:43:05]: It um [1:43:06, 1:43:12]: You know, it's it's one of those things you may or may not ever get another lightning strike. You just don't know when, you don't know. [1:43:13, 1:43:22]: uh you know what the damage is gonna be. I I certainly would not expect a a fire. That's not what I would be concerned about. I would be concerned more uh lightning. [1:43:22, 1:43:30]: uh entering the building and running through uh uh power cabling or low voltage cabling and getting the equipment. [1:43:32, 1:43:33]: Okay. [1:43:34, 1:43:39]: Well if if the council would choose to relieve us of [1:43:40, 1:43:46]: continuing to explore this, that would be helpful tonight so that we don't waste more more time and effort on on this item. [1:43:47, 1:43:50]: All right. Well, all right, then uh [1:43:50, 1:43:53]: Councilman Thomas, what are your thoughts then about that? [1:43:56, 1:44:01]: It it it does um create some concern, as you said, Carl. [1:44:02, 1:44:04]: You don't know when, but if it does. [1:44:05, 1:44:06]: uh how much damage [1:44:07, 1:44:14]: So um I'm sort of just in you know in between uh as far as uh a yeah or a nay. [1:44:14, 1:44:15]: Um [1:44:16, 1:44:20]: I I'm just I'm just not sure. I would hate for something to happen. [1:44:21, 1:44:22]: Um [1:44:22, 1:44:32]: total system goes down, especially if if you know, we talk about the amphitheater and this happens say a week before [1:44:33, 1:44:35]: uh a schedule event [1:44:36, 1:44:37]: And we cannot go forward. [1:44:38, 1:44:39]: Um [1:44:39, 1:44:42]: That's what sort of just running through my mind, but [1:44:43, 1:44:44]: I really don't have an answer, Mayor. [1:44:45, 1:44:48]: All right. Council uh Councilwoman Barber, go ahead, please. [1:44:48, 1:44:53]: So any damage would it not be covered our insurance? [1:44:54, 1:45:04]: I I do believe that damage um was submitted to to your insurance carrier. I'm kinda out of the loop once that happens, so I don't know if that's been paid or not. [1:45:05, 1:45:07]: Okay, Miss Um [1:45:07, 1:45:08]: This holiday. [1:45:09, 1:45:09]: Um [1:45:10, 1:45:14]: Do you recall submitting something like this to the insurance company? [1:45:15, 1:45:16]: I did not. [1:45:17, 1:45:23]: It did not come through the clerk's office to submit a claim. It may have been done through the city manager's office, but I did not. [1:45:23, 1:45:26]: Thank you. Mr. Trevithan, so [1:45:27, 1:45:32]: So any damage um that would be as a result to the lightning strike. [1:45:33, 1:45:36]: Um, we could use our insurance to cover. [1:45:36, 1:45:38]: Um repair costs. [1:45:38, 1:45:39]: Correct. [1:45:39, 1:45:50]: I I think that would be a question for your insurance carrier to make sure that you know you have that coverage that you that you're looking for. So I think it would be worth uh reviewing that with your insurance carrier. [1:45:50, 1:45:51]: Um [1:45:51, 1:45:54]: Uh I and then going back to some to [1:45:54, 1:45:57]: Tag on to Miss Holiday's response that did [1:45:57, 1:46:07]: uh occur uh when Mr. Knight was a city manager, I think he would have um initiated submitting that that claim to your insurance carrier. [1:46:08, 1:46:09]: Okay. Thank you. [1:46:09, 1:46:14]: Mr. Thomas, go ahead, sir. Uh Carl, how how long did it take to to repair the damage? [1:46:16, 1:46:17]: I think it [1:46:18, 1:46:18]: So [1:46:19, 1:46:21]: I I'd have to ask the um [1:46:21, 1:46:31]: Uh Kurt with the contractor with H J Russell as he did that. It did not take very long. I would say one to two weeks, all the components were back uh in operational. [1:46:32, 1:46:36]: And see and that and that's my concern when you say one or two weeks. [1:46:36, 1:46:37]: Um [1:46:38, 1:46:42]: It could happen a week out before a major event, but [1:46:42, 1:46:43]: Um [1:46:43, 1:46:46]: You know, uh that that's that's God's work, so [1:46:47, 1:46:54]: Um, I yield back, ma'am. I just want to know uh I'm I'm I would was that considered a minor [1:46:56, 1:46:57]: Fix [1:46:58, 1:46:59]: Or destruction? [1:46:59, 1:47:00]: Ha ha [1:47:00, 1:47:01]: Um [1:47:04, 1:47:15]: I I'm I'm not sure how to really categorize it. Um I think the things that took the longest to get replaced, there were some lights on exterior lights that were affected and they had to be reordered. [1:47:15, 1:47:23]: uh the components of some of the um uh uh of the equipment um they were repaired very rather quickly so [1:47:24, 1:47:30]: You know, it just depends on what a lightning strike does and what it affects as to whether or not it actually makes [1:47:31, 1:47:39]: would make the amphitheater unusable, or if it's just some cases where, you know, certain things aren't operating, but you know, the show goes on. So [1:47:39, 1:47:44]: And we don't know until it happens, right? We don't know until it happens if it ever happens. So [1:47:44, 1:47:45]: Yeah. [1:47:45, 1:47:50]: All right, thank you, sir. Well, Councilwoman Gantt, do you have any comments on this issue at all? [1:47:52, 1:47:53]: No, I don't. [1:47:54, 1:47:57]: Okay, so call asked for potential relief. [1:47:57, 1:48:07]: of this potentially. So I just want to know whether or not we're willing to give him the relief and not pursue this or whether or not do you still want him to pursue this and use manpower to do this and come back with some type of uh [1:48:08, 1:48:09]: presentation with the cost factor. [1:48:12, 1:48:13]: Just asking for your thoughts, folks. [1:48:14, 1:48:16]: Well, I would like to um [1:48:17, 1:48:25]: See if you, mayor, can test staff with uh contacting the insurance company to see if something like this would be covered. [1:48:25, 1:48:26]: Um and [1:48:27, 1:48:31]: Uh, if not, then I can make a better decision once I know. [1:48:32, 1:48:34]: What the insurance company says. [1:48:34, 1:48:35]: Um [1:48:35, 1:48:36]: Mayor. [1:48:36, 1:48:37]: Yes, ma'am. [1:48:37, 1:48:39]: I agree with Councilwoman Barber on that. [1:48:40, 1:48:41]: Um I think that [1:48:41, 1:48:43]: That would be smart and wise. I think we [1:48:44, 1:48:49]: probably need to reach out to Mr. Knight and and find out what did he do because we didn't receive notice of this. [1:48:50, 1:49:00]: Well, I have to admit I I this is new to me as well. Okay. Uh well, Miss Holiday, you you hear the request. I would imagine you'll be able to take care of this and get look get some idea whether or not this is covered in our insurance. [1:49:01, 1:49:02]: That's great. [1:49:02, 1:49:03]: Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate it. [1:49:04, 1:49:11]: On that and we'll reach out, uh we'll try to figure out something from uh what uh what uh Knight might have done with this in this aspect as well. [1:49:11, 1:49:12]: Um [1:49:12, 1:49:14]: Call, please continue. [1:49:14, 1:49:22]: All right, thank you. Uh the third consideration we'll talk about tonight, and this has to do with why the uh certificate of completion is not yet issued. [1:49:22, 1:49:25]: I think probably some of you may know that there is some [1:49:25, 1:49:36]: uh erosion issues in one of the detention ponds um that uh occurred earlier in the year from a from a very heavy unusual rain event. [1:49:36, 1:49:56]: Um as we have been uh as a team has been assessing that and looking at uh ways to resolve that that issue, uh we've come across some additional concerns regarding uh groundwater at that location and the cause that the groundwater is is [1:49:56, 1:49:58]: [6599.1, 6606.9]: Um so we've engaged the third party geotechnical firm, which is Atlas, who's been working on the project the whole time. [1:50:07, 1:50:12]: Uh, to do some groundwater uh monitoring and issue a report. [1:50:12, 1:50:16]: Expecting that report to come either this week or early next week. [1:50:16, 1:50:19]: And then the designers can finalize [1:50:20, 1:50:31]: uh the enhancements that are gonna need to be done to detention fund to the detention fund to handle these issues. Um it certainly is going to require [1:50:31, 1:50:36]: uh modifications to the spillway between the upper pond and the middle pond. [1:50:37, 1:50:42]: Uh and it's certainly going to require some bank stabilization around the middle pond. [1:50:43, 1:50:51]: Um we had to do something similar to that during the course of the project to the lower pond that's closer to Lee Street because of groundwater issues. [1:50:52, 1:50:57]: And we had to do some stabilization there. So it looks like we're headed towards that same solution. [1:50:58, 1:51:00]: uh for this pond so [1:51:00, 1:51:02]: Uh, we're a couple of weeks away from [1:51:03, 1:51:03]: Um [1:51:04, 1:51:12]: getting that information put together and getting the uh the designers an opportunity to finalize their recommendations for [1:51:13, 1:51:16]: uh enhancements or alterations to that pawn. [1:51:16, 1:51:36]: Uh the issue will be is that there um uh that there's not going to be enough money in the balance of the project, the contingency that we're working under uh to fund this based on some of the preliminary numbers that that I've um have have received. So we'll need to be uh in [1:51:36, 1:51:46]: In addition to looking at the resolution, looking at the funding source, but I do want to move this as quickly as we can because we we need to get these enhancements done. [1:51:47, 1:51:53]: uh so that we don't continue to have problems with this pond and and uh create additional costs later on. [1:51:54, 1:52:07]: Well Carl, I would Carl, I would think that wouldn't this be something that would be on the contractor and not on the city if this is something that wasn't done properly in the first place? Why would we have to pay for something for a mistake if it's wasn't done properly initially? [1:52:07, 1:52:11]: Certainly a good question. That you know, that's the first thing that we were looking at when this happened. [1:52:12, 1:52:19]: Um, you know, the contractor built the spillway according to designer's uh design. [1:52:19, 1:52:27]: Um I've been back through the uh the test reports from Atlas to make sure that all of the compaction was properly done. [1:52:28, 1:52:35]: Uh and so yet as to yet I've not found any reason to believe that that the contractor didn't build it correctly. [1:52:35, 1:52:41]: Uh but I don't I'm not really ready yet to speculate on on any uh end game with this. I think [1:52:41, 1:52:42]: We really need to [1:52:43, 1:52:55]: We we do know we need to do something at in addition to what was designed there to handle these issues. Certainly the groundwater issue if it is not um a contractor fault. That's an an [1:52:55, 1:53:12]: Uh you know that that is a condition of the ground that um uh that was not anticipated. So what I would say tonight um without getting into having to speculate on how this ends up is let's I want to finish up with the groundwater report. I want the [1:53:12, 1:53:20]: Designers to uh finalize uh what they recommend to be done to the fund in addition to what was designed before. [1:53:20, 1:53:25]: Um and get the cost of that and and move forward with that. [1:53:25, 1:53:34]: Um and um and try to bring at least get get the remediation done so that we don't have uh continued erosion issues there. [1:53:35, 1:53:43]: But I certainly don't right now I do not believe that the contractor failed to do anything that wasn't that he wasn't asked to do according to the design. [1:53:45, 1:53:46]: All right, so thank you. [1:53:46, 1:53:48]: Any questions, counsel for Carl? [1:53:49, 1:53:50]: Yes, Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [1:53:50, 1:53:56]: Mr. Trevathan, so Adalyst, are they a subcontractor of H J Russell? [1:53:57, 1:54:10]: No, Atlas, uh they were formerly called Piedmont. Uh they are the third party. Uh they did the geotechnical and the materials testing on the project. They're hired directly by the city as a third party um [1:54:11, 1:54:13]: Materials uh inspector. [1:54:13, 1:54:18]: Uh so they work separately from the contractor and they work separately from [1:54:18, 1:54:20]: The designers that work direct for the city. [1:54:21, 1:54:23]: uh to to do these um [1:54:24, 1:54:26]: to do the scope that they're asked to do on the project. [1:54:26, 1:54:29]: Do you know if we have an existing contract with them? [1:54:29, 1:54:30]: Yes, you did. [1:54:30, 1:54:34]: Yes, there was a contract on the project for for them to perform. [1:54:34, 1:54:36]: Uh all the testing on the project. [1:54:37, 1:54:40]: It's still active, is what I mean. It is still active. [1:54:40, 1:54:40]: Okay. [1:54:41, 1:54:41]: Um [1:54:41, 1:54:42]: And that's separate. [1:54:43, 1:54:50]: That's a separate contract from this 5% retention that you're holding from HJ Russell, correct? [1:54:51, 1:54:55]: Um not really sure what you're asking. Um [1:54:55, 1:55:01]: Right now, you know, the project through the course of the project retention is held on contractor. [1:55:01, 1:55:07]: Um until the project is complete. Um, the project's not complete because of this. [1:55:08, 1:55:08]: Um [1:55:09, 1:55:16]: I think an a a a million dollar retention on it that's a little little large based on what we think the cost will be to uh [1:55:17, 1:55:19]: та то адрес деса. [1:55:19, 1:55:24]: I think we we can certainly entertain their request for retained reduction. [1:55:24, 1:55:25]: Um [1:55:26, 1:55:26]: But [1:55:28, 1:55:34]: So I'm not sure I'm asking your question, but uh I'm trying to really explain what the retaining is is really for. [1:55:35, 1:55:41]: Well, I want to make sure that the city's assets when it was turned over to us that it's fully operational. [1:55:42, 1:55:44]: And we don't have issues like this. [1:55:45, 1:55:45]: Correct. [1:55:45, 1:55:46]: For contractors. [1:55:47, 1:55:49]: And everyone else to walk away winning. [1:55:50, 1:55:52]: Good attention. [1:55:52, 1:55:58]: their consent contingency funds and they're just walking away. And now the city is having to [1:55:58, 1:55:59]: bear the cost of [1:56:00, 1:56:02]: fixing and resolving these issues. So [1:56:03, 1:56:05]: That's all I want to make sure that [1:56:05, 1:56:11]: those contractors who are directly responsible in working with us to resolve it if we have an active contract. [1:56:11, 1:56:12]: That [1:56:12, 1:56:16]: Right now is not the time for us to discuss reducing. [1:56:16, 1:56:22]: um any retainage feeds, but I understand Atlas is separate from HJ Russell. [1:56:23, 1:56:23]: Correct. [1:56:23, 1:56:24]: Okay. [1:56:25, 1:56:27]: Ms. Mirror. Yeah, go right here, sir, please. [1:56:27, 1:56:30]: Uh Mr. Trevathan, I I want to understand [1:56:31, 1:56:37]: Whether or not uh this was built to the standard of a hundred year flood or what standard was it built to? [1:56:38, 1:56:41]: 'Cause obviously I don't remember any type of [1:56:41, 1:56:46]: delus or or uh incredible flooding in this area that would have caused [1:56:46, 1:56:50]: uh this type of issue to uh [1:56:50, 1:56:58]: become forward. I mean, when was this hundred year flood of rain that we were supposed to have? Isn't it supposed to be built to that standard? [1:56:58, 1:57:18]: And uh I appreciate that question. Uh I have asked the designers to address their initial design and they uh that will be part of what uh what I will be putting together to send to uh uh to the city staff as far as the final resolution recommendations to this. So um we will I [1:57:18, 1:57:24]: Your question will be answered when when we finalize that report and get it sent to us to the city staff. [1:57:25, 1:57:26]: But it's a very fair question. [1:57:27, 1:57:30]: Okay, and also I've noticed that uh [1:57:30, 1:57:33]: The water levels are pretty low uh in those two. [1:57:34, 1:57:34]: Uh yeah. [1:57:35, 1:57:39]: Into those first two points, I know one of them's supposed to be a spillover. For example [1:57:39, 1:57:41]: I don't know if you're familiar with the [1:57:41, 1:57:45]: Big Springs uh project in McDon in McDonough. [1:57:45, 1:57:49]: It looks full all the time, even though it is a detention or retention fund. [1:57:50, 1:58:02]: It looks full all the time. The body of water looks more like a pond than it does a detention pond because it's not as sight it's not as beautiful as I thought it would have been because the water level is always [1:58:03, 1:58:05]: Extremely low instead of being [1:58:05, 1:58:08]: Uh looking like a pond or a lake. [1:58:08, 1:58:25]: Right. Um, and you're correct. Um the con uh H J Russell has lowered and and is pumping water out of the upper pond so that we don't continue to have erosion on that spillway and make that situation worse until we get the final resolution. So [1:58:25, 1:58:31]: Those pods are intentionally drawn down right now until we can get this situation resolved. [1:58:31, 1:58:36]: Well, I mean, even before they started to draw down, I'm just saying they never really looked [1:58:36, 1:58:55]: uh you know, like a body of water that would be very appealing. It just they always look kind of low. I don't know was there a leak something that was going on previous to that, cause I I just I certainly would like to see as we're doing this project for it to look more wholesome and to look full, the pond to look full with the fountain in there. [1:58:55, 1:58:57]: uh on an ongoing basis when the project is finished. [1:58:59, 1:59:09]: Um we once we get the water levels back up to where they're supposed to be, I think we can evaluate that. I mean, I did see the water levels prior to us drawing them down. [1:59:09, 1:59:14]: Um we're still in construction so we're still doing a lot of landscaping work. [1:59:14, 1:59:20]: the water wasn't really clear because things weren't finished. [1:59:20, 1:59:32]: But I think if if there is a concern about that, um, you know, I can take that back to the civil engineer record and see if he can maybe make a a presentation to you on that. Um [1:59:32, 1:59:35]: at a future meeting to to kind of explain what their [1:59:36, 1:59:37]: uh design intent. [1:59:38, 1:59:39]: should result. [1:59:41, 1:59:42]: Okay, thank you. [1:59:43, 1:59:46]: Any other comments uh for Carl Council? [1:59:47, 1:59:48]: Concerns that [1:59:48, 1:59:50]: Uh, Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. [1:59:50, 1:59:54]: Uh uh Carl, I wanted to go back to the um [1:59:55, 2:00:08]: charging stations and I know you mentioned you quoted a sixty uh sixty thousand dollars. Did you indicate how many stations would that be um in this area? How many how many stations would that be? [2:00:08, 2:00:09]: Yes, um [2:00:09, 2:00:27]: I did. Uh there's there'll be five, what we call dual point stations. There's five of those. Each station has two charging points. So five times two is ten. There'll be ten actual charging points. Um and certainly you can choose to put all of those in or [2:00:28, 2:00:32]: Maybe you choose to put some of those in at this time. So it'll be it'll really be a [2:00:33, 2:00:37]: A question that will come up once this bit gets brought up to you for approval. [2:00:38, 2:00:41]: And and that is at a cost of uh sixty thousand. [2:00:41, 2:00:46]: Correct. If you do all all five of the stations, that will result in ten charging points. [2:00:49, 2:00:58]: And these, by the way, these car charging stations are um they're not what you would get in your house that takes you all night to charge. These charge a car. [2:00:58, 2:01:04]: uh in in a matter of just a couple of hours. So they are a a higher level [2:01:04, 2:01:07]: uh charging station than what you would find at at your house. [2:01:08, 2:01:10]: Thank you, sir. [2:01:11, 2:01:11]: Yeah, we [2:01:12, 2:01:15]: Anything else? You have for time, you have something else now? [2:01:15, 2:01:23]: Yeah, r very quickly. In the end, uh I I think that's the point is to draw more folk downtown. But the very best part of this is [2:01:24, 2:01:29]: The infrastructure bill contains money for electric car charging and electric stations. [2:01:29, 2:01:31]: So let's move in that direction. [2:01:31, 2:01:36]: uh in those funds being available in the infrastructure bill that's coming. [2:01:37, 2:01:38]: Mm-hmm. [2:01:38, 2:01:39]: Okay. That's right. [2:01:39, 2:01:40]: Casual Bottom. [2:01:41, 2:01:41]: You have a comment? [2:01:42, 2:01:45]: Oh no, I was echoing with Mayor Pro Tian Alexander. Okay. [2:01:46, 2:01:49]: If there's no other question, Mr. Trevitad. [2:01:50, 2:01:54]: How long does it take for them to install Denis charging stations? [2:01:55, 2:01:56]: Um [2:01:57, 2:02:03]: I would have to go back and look at that quote, but I think once you approve it, the actual stations um [2:02:06, 2:02:26]: I think it was six to eight weeks. That was I I tend to recall that was the the time frame I was discussing with with Mr. Knighton before. Um but that is of course that is dependent upon Georgia power getting the infrastructure in, which is a separate agreement that needs to be signed by the city to allow them to do it, even though it's at zero [2:02:26, 2:02:31]: zero cost, there is an agreement that has been sent that needs to be executed before [2:02:32, 2:02:40]: Um Georgia Power will move on their part. They've done the design work, but they have to uh they won't order the transformer until that agreement is signed. [2:02:41, 2:02:45]: Okay. Um do we know when that agreement is gonna be presented to the council? [2:02:46, 2:02:48]: Um I don't if [2:02:49, 2:02:55]: I I would have to defer that to Miss Johnson if if she's ready to bring that up or not. Um [2:02:55, 2:03:02]: I and and truly because it's a zero dollar thing, I I don't I'm not even sure if council needs to [2:03:03, 2:03:05]: Right has to vote on it, but you certainly could. [2:03:06, 2:03:08]: It could be something that maybe that could be done internally. [2:03:09, 2:03:11]: Right. I'll leave that to Mayor Ford. [2:03:11, 2:03:18]: Thank you very much. Appreciate it. On that note, Carl, thank you for the presentation. Uh unless there's something else to mention, sir, we'll move on. [2:03:18, 2:03:22]: All right, uh so I'm gonna take you to the cultural arts center. Okay, uh [2:03:23, 2:03:25]: I think I would like for Heather [2:03:26, 2:03:37]: To do. She's got a little more deeper dive presentation to do tonight. And then we'll come back to this uh this project sheet and kind of go through the specifics on it. So Heather, if you are ready. [2:03:38, 2:03:40]: Uh I will stop sharing and you can take over. [2:03:41, 2:03:43]: Sure thing, thank you. [2:03:55, 2:03:57]: Uh hopefully you can see a [2:03:58, 2:04:01]: Um perspective of the uh art center. [2:04:01, 2:04:02]: On your screen. [2:04:02, 2:04:03]: We can. [2:04:05, 2:04:09]: Uh thank you for this time your time this evening. I am going to um [2:04:09, 2:04:17]: uh give you an overview of kind of where we where we're at with the art center um and then of course questions uh [2:04:17, 2:04:29]: as appropriate. Adam Williamson is on the phone with me uh tonight and he is going to be talking, he is a principal with TSW and he's going to be talking about the site component when we get to it. [2:04:30, 2:04:38]: But project status update. So we completed the schematic design set on November the 10th of this year. [2:04:39, 2:04:41]: Um that is in Miss Johnson's hand. [2:04:41, 2:04:43]: Uh as well as um [2:04:44, 2:04:46]: Stay shift Aaron's hands as well. [2:04:46, 2:04:47]: Um [2:04:48, 2:05:00]: That set, so we had concept previously, so now we have expanded the design set. So this is a a look at uh really starting to make the concept more real. [2:05:00, 2:05:08]: Um the schematic design set has ninety-seven pages in it, so it is much more extensive than what you've seen previously. [2:05:08, 2:05:12]: The goal of the set is to really advance the design. [2:05:13, 2:05:18]: as well as to facilitate detailed construction cost estimating. So [2:05:18, 2:05:32]: Up until before this set, we didn't have any engineers involved to actually start to design the systems and to get really accurate costing, we needed that interaction. So that's occurred with this set. [2:05:33, 2:05:37]: Um tonight we're going to talk about both uh [2:05:37, 2:05:38]: What the site? [2:05:38, 2:05:48]: has been updated to some of the building updates that have been done. And then we are going to give you a separate presentation on the interiors. [2:05:49, 2:05:49]: Um [2:05:50, 2:05:51]: In the near future. [2:05:53, 2:06:04]: Uh these are uh the entities that were involved with the schematic design set. So uh you know we had civil engineers, um MEP engineers. [2:06:05, 2:06:20]: structural engineers, interior designer, theater designer, the acoustician, all of those uh folks involved to make sure that we could get some really good feedback on um you know the vision for the amphet uh the vision for the art center. [2:06:23, 2:06:28]: Um this is the concept uh for the Art Center that was done previous to now. [2:06:29, 2:06:35]: um it was you know a quick uh look at you know what what was for the site [2:06:36, 2:06:38]: Uh but it wasn't completely flush out. [2:06:39, 2:06:51]: So there were things that we need to solve, and here are the main items that we need to solve in this schematic design set. So we need to make sure to adapt that concept, the land survey. [2:06:51, 2:06:59]: Prior, uh, we did not have that information, now we do. So we need to make all of that align and work uh in a realistic way. [2:07:00, 2:07:03]: Um we also had to focus on um [2:07:04, 2:07:19]: a desell lane. With the traffic that's going to be coming into the art center and the traffic on North Henry, we really needed to get this incorporated to the site. And so that started to affect the previous concept. [2:07:19, 2:07:21]: Um we also [2:07:21, 2:07:27]: really triggered that we needed to improve the drop-off sequence, the previous drop-off sequence. [2:07:27, 2:07:28]: And I'm gonna flip back real quick. [2:07:29, 2:07:33]: You can see you came off North Henry and then to drop off you had to make this [2:07:33, 2:07:41]: large circular motion around, which really isn't practical for the functionality of the art center. So we wanted to solve that. [2:07:43, 2:07:53]: Uh and then also uh we wanted to improve uh the green space that we were providing for this site. I'm gonna flip back one more time to the concept, the previous concept. [2:07:53, 2:08:01]: So the central green space that you can see was really surrounded by this loop. And so anyone who wanted to get to the green space. [2:08:01, 2:08:04]: Um, you know, had to cross traffic. [2:08:04, 2:08:06]: Uh and you know they're [2:08:07, 2:08:11]: Uh that makes a dangerous situation potentially for kids playing. [2:08:11, 2:08:14]: So we wanted to try to [2:08:14, 2:08:14]: Right. [2:08:15, 2:08:16]: Yeah. [2:08:16, 2:08:19]: work out that design solution. [2:08:23, 2:08:34]: So this is the updated site concept, and I'm gonna turn it over to Adam Williamson to kind of talk through how the site plan uh solves those different items. [2:08:35, 2:08:39]: Thanks, Heather. Good evening, Mayor and Council. Pleasure to be here. [2:08:39, 2:08:43]: So I'm gonna go high level on this. We'll start with the main parking lot. [2:08:44, 2:08:45]: adjacent to the stock bridge. [2:08:46, 2:08:46]: Art Center. [2:08:47, 2:08:50]: You know, we're trying to maximize the parking. [2:08:50, 2:08:52]: Um to the right there. [2:08:52, 2:08:58]: And then to the left you'll see on the other side of the art center is the staff parking lot. [2:08:58, 2:08:59]: The back of house. [2:09:00, 2:09:01]: Um loading. [2:09:02, 2:09:05]: And in the front piece you'll see the revised [2:09:05, 2:09:10]: design. We're gonna zoom into these and get into a little bit more detail next on the next slide. So this plan [2:09:11, 2:09:11]: It's roughly [2:09:12, 2:09:16]: About the same as we had previously, about two hundred and forty seven parking spaces. We know it's important. [2:09:16, 2:09:19]: to get as many sparking spaces as as we can [2:09:19, 2:09:22]: And so if we'll zoom in, Heather, next slide, please. [2:09:23, 2:09:26]: So we're zooming into the green space and and the front. [2:09:27, 2:09:28]: Of the building. [2:09:28, 2:09:29]: And so [2:09:29, 2:09:33]: You know, one of the other reasons we had to shift the driveway was that D sell link. [2:09:33, 2:09:39]: Um from um G Dot. So we pushed the the entry drive down where we could access the site. [2:09:40, 2:09:46]: Um again I do agree with Heather trying to minimize the conflicts with pedestrians if you have children out there. [2:09:46, 2:09:47]: This is a safer plant. [2:09:48, 2:09:50]: Um so you come into the side. [2:09:50, 2:09:53]: One of the big components was we wanted to create the axes. [2:09:53, 2:09:58]: to the front door so this this major thoroughfare [2:09:58, 2:09:59]: Which has water features. [2:10:00, 2:10:02]: Such as Runnels and um [2:10:03, 2:10:08]: some different elements in this area to draw your eye to the door and to be that central axis. [2:10:09, 2:10:15]: We also have um parking there. We also have some parallel parking adjacent to the park. [2:10:15, 2:10:17]: Which could accommodate food trucks. [2:10:17, 2:10:20]: For having a vent to activate the space. [2:10:21, 2:10:22]: We have um [2:10:22, 2:10:25]: One of the cool features we have is in the front there. [2:10:25, 2:10:31]: And you will we'll show you an example of that where we have the big letters for that would say stockbridge in the front. [2:10:32, 2:10:34]: And you know, that could be a an Instagram moment. [2:10:35, 2:10:43]: Um for for for some folks. Um we have some a lot of seating in this area, table locations, a tree bosque. [2:10:43, 2:10:45]: And really a hard walk. [2:10:45, 2:10:46]: To [2:10:46, 2:10:48]: To really bring [2:10:48, 2:10:50]: The idea the art into this space. [2:10:51, 2:10:57]: Um and the turnaround that we we've been working on, we want to make that more efficient, more safe. [2:10:57, 2:10:58]: So it's a one way street. [2:10:59, 2:11:01]: As you come in for the drop off. [2:11:02, 2:11:04]: And you could drop off right in front of the [2:11:04, 2:11:08]: Um front door, and then you could circle back around. [2:11:08, 2:11:11]: And then you could go back and park in in the large parking lot. [2:11:12, 2:11:16]: And we also see some opportunities in that in that central green space. [2:11:16, 2:11:18]: Of the turnaround to have art. [2:11:18, 2:11:19]: And um a water feature. [2:11:20, 2:11:22]: So if we go to the next slide. [2:11:24, 2:11:27]: So this shows you uh a little zoomed in. [2:11:27, 2:11:29]: Of the parking lot. [2:11:29, 2:11:40]: Again, we're trying to maximize that. We're trying to get pedestrian movements. You see some of the sidewalks at the top, the middle, and at the bottom that will feed you to the art center in a safe manner. [2:11:41, 2:11:43]: We also have another drop off. [2:11:44, 2:11:44]: Um [2:11:44, 2:11:45]: To the side there. [2:11:46, 2:11:48]: And we do have a large pedestrian plaza. [2:11:49, 2:11:50]: That we where people can [2:11:50, 2:11:53]: Come and meet and then ha have seating. [2:11:53, 2:11:56]: And more potential for art exhibits there. [2:11:58, 2:11:59]: Think we have one more slide. [2:12:02, 2:12:08]: And this is some of the examples, and we're we're still getting cost and and thinking about how exactly this works, but [2:12:09, 2:12:12]: The top left is the in the roundabout. We could have a [2:12:12, 2:12:14]: Ma water feature. [2:12:15, 2:12:24]: And the next it shows you a inverse infinity edge central channel where the water drains to the central and drops into a channel. [2:12:25, 2:12:29]: And then the next one shows you a reflecting pool with bubble fountains. [2:12:30, 2:12:31]: And the [2:12:31, 2:12:35]: This spells, I believe, Toledo, but you get you know, we we we would be spelling [2:12:35, 2:12:38]: Stockbridge, give you an example of that at the bottom left. [2:12:39, 2:12:41]: And then some of our ideas the next two. [2:12:42, 2:12:43]: Number is just some seeding. [2:12:43, 2:12:47]: And some angled seatings, just some examples of how we'd like to integrate the seating. [2:12:47, 2:12:48]: into the design. [2:12:52, 2:12:55]: Believe there's one more slide, Heather. Is that it? [2:12:57, 2:12:59]: I believe that is it. Um [2:13:00, 2:13:03]: Should we field questions for the site before we move to the building? [2:13:04, 2:13:07]: Sure, if there's any questions or comments, love to hear from you. [2:13:08, 2:13:28]: Yeah, I I I have to admit I'm I'm a little confused about some of the entryway. Uh the if you go back to the slide for the we showed the the central part of the green space in the entryway, and you talk about the drop-off area. Uh so so otherwise uh on North Henry uh North Henry Boulevard, there's only one one. [2:13:28, 2:13:32]: One way in, no uh not another sec uh another way out, or what? Now I'm kinda confused here. [2:13:33, 2:13:36]: Oh sorry, I didn't say say that very clearly. No, that's a two way [2:13:37, 2:13:43]: I'll ask it too, I got there. Okay. Coming in. It's just the one way like right in front where the drop off is. [2:13:43, 2:13:44]: Okay. [2:13:45, 2:13:46]: Everything else is two way. [2:13:46, 2:13:48]: Okay. Got it now. All right. Good question. [2:13:49, 2:13:50]: All right, I'm I'm good. [2:13:50, 2:13:51]: Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [2:13:52, 2:13:59]: You mentioned about having the stock bridge sign at the entrance. [2:13:59, 2:14:04]: With the pedestrian bridge a block away, I thought that I've seen um [2:14:05, 2:14:06]: designs uh [2:14:07, 2:14:09]: a potential pedestrian bridge with the same [2:14:10, 2:14:10]: Like [2:14:11, 2:14:12]: Lettering. [2:14:13, 2:14:14]: Would that be overkill? [2:14:17, 2:14:18]: I'm I'm not aware of that. Heather, were you? [2:14:19, 2:14:20]: Are you aware of that? [2:14:21, 2:14:22]: I'm not aware of it either. [2:14:22, 2:14:23]: Um [2:14:24, 2:14:30]: I think it would be overkill, so I would only do it in one location. Um the [2:14:31, 2:14:37]: thought of incorporating it here is that it becomes art when you become part of that sign. [2:14:37, 2:14:38]: Um [2:14:38, 2:14:41]: So that was the reason for incorporating it here. [2:14:41, 2:14:42]: Oh. [2:14:42, 2:14:47]: But you know, glad to remove that element if that is gonna be done in another location. [2:14:48, 2:14:51]: Well maybe um mayor Alexander. [2:14:52, 2:14:57]: The image that you've been showing of the pedestrian bridge that has stock bridge on it. [2:14:58, 2:14:59]: Was that a [2:15:00, 2:15:01]: Designed by [2:15:02, 2:15:12]: It it was in the RSVP plan uh for downtown over uh the track. So yes, that was uh that was incorporated in the downtown RSVP plan. [2:15:15, 2:15:19]: So I just don't need to have it in both places. Maybe [2:15:20, 2:15:22]: uh consider something else. [2:15:22, 2:15:23]: Right. [2:15:24, 2:15:30]: Okay. Yeah, we'll you know there's a lot of opportunities playing off the art, so that's good feedback. We'll we'll remove that from the plant. [2:15:32, 2:15:35]: Ms. Bar uh Ms uh Braggs, go ahead, please. [2:15:37, 2:15:39]: I was just going to mention that [2:15:39, 2:15:45]: Um these types of letters were proposed for um three potential locations. [2:15:46, 2:15:48]: One as was mentioned, um [2:15:49, 2:15:52]: by councilwoman barber on the pedestrian bridge. [2:15:53, 2:15:57]: And um counts mayor pro tem Alexander, but also [2:15:58, 2:16:00]: In the space that we [2:16:00, 2:16:02]: Main street calls. [2:16:02, 2:16:04]: The pecan grove. [2:16:04, 2:16:07]: That was another potential location. [2:16:07, 2:16:12]: But we're not necessarily adverse to the letters being placed at the cultural arts center. [2:16:13, 2:16:18]: But Main Street has proposed three locations for those letters. [2:16:19, 2:16:20]: Thank you. [2:16:22, 2:16:23]: You know, questions, council? [2:16:26, 2:16:28]: Okay, I I guess Heather, you can continue on. [2:16:29, 2:16:29]: Okay. [2:16:34, 2:16:40]: Um so these are the floor plans uh back in March uh twenty twenty-one. [2:16:40, 2:16:48]: Again, these were done prior to uh engineers coming in and influencing. Yes, I see a hand raised. [2:16:49, 2:16:49]: Okay. [2:16:50, 2:16:52]: Right. Okay, go ahead. I I don't see it. Who is that? [2:16:52, 2:16:56]: I apologize, Mayor Ford. This is Councilman Thomas. [2:16:56, 2:16:59]: Mrs. Hubble, how are you this afternoon or this evening? [2:17:00, 2:17:03]: Good. I hope you're doing well as well. Doing good as well. [2:17:03, 2:17:06]: I I apologize. I I wanted to [2:17:06, 2:17:07]: Have you two? [2:17:08, 2:17:10]: Highlight um [2:17:10, 2:17:14]: The entryway uh from Burke Street [2:17:15, 2:17:19]: I I have not I don't recall a lot of conversation about [2:17:19, 2:17:22]: how the entryway is going to look. [2:17:22, 2:17:25]: Uh coming in off of uh Berk Street. [2:17:26, 2:17:27]: And the parking [2:17:27, 2:17:29]: Uh that's on that end. [2:17:31, 2:17:32]: Can you share just [2:17:32, 2:17:34]: Some of that concept [2:17:37, 2:17:40]: Sure. Adam, would you like to cover that? [2:17:41, 2:17:49]: Sure. We I think what we're talking about doing on Burke Street is adding parallel parking on on the left side of Burke Street. [2:17:49, 2:17:51]: But also those uh [2:17:52, 2:17:55]: Those gray sidewalks that you see in the parking lot. [2:17:56, 2:18:00]: There's three. There's one at the top and and then there's one in the middle and there's one at the bottom. [2:18:01, 2:18:01]: And so [2:18:02, 2:18:08]: You would get out of your car and make your way to those sidewalks and those would be the entry portals into the plaza area. [2:18:08, 2:18:11]: And so we're that's what we're using to [2:18:11, 2:18:16]: Um it's also the the bottom one um connects to your art walk. [2:18:16, 2:18:20]: Um and so we we're bringing people in at the bottom too, which is [2:18:21, 2:18:27]: you know, probably the main corridor into the to the plaza area to the front to the front door. [2:18:31, 2:18:32]: Sir does that answer your question? [2:18:35, 2:18:43]: You muted. It does. It does. Um I was trying to get a better I was trying to pitch a view of the [2:18:43, 2:18:45]: The landscaping [2:18:45, 2:18:48]: Um directly coming in. [2:18:48, 2:18:50]: And with the potential of [2:18:51, 2:18:53]: Future development on Burke Street. [2:18:54, 2:18:58]: to make sure that um you know everything sort of gel. [2:18:59, 2:19:00]: But I can't picture [2:19:00, 2:19:03]: I can't picture the the landscaping [2:19:05, 2:19:07]: uh you know, of that entryway is it [2:19:07, 2:19:10]: Is it sort of just bland or [2:19:10, 2:19:15]: Uh will that be a high profile entryway into the um [2:19:15, 2:19:17]: Cultural art from from Berk Street. [2:19:18, 2:19:25]: I mean, we we'd like to make it very nice. I mean, this is still early stages with a diagram as we move forward. [2:19:25, 2:19:28]: We'd be getting more into the details, um, but [2:19:28, 2:19:31]: Definitely would like to make it very nice and attractive as you enter this. [2:19:31, 2:19:32]: This great building. [2:19:35, 2:19:35]: Okay. [2:19:36, 2:19:41]: Okay, and I and I guess I would reserve some questions later as we get to that point. I'll just a little [2:19:42, 2:19:45]: Um not concerned. I just didn't see. [2:19:45, 2:19:50]: uh the enhancement uh from the Berk Street side and [2:19:50, 2:19:53]: How would future development [2:19:53, 2:19:59]: um coincide with that with that entryway going into um the culture art from Burke Street. [2:20:01, 2:20:02]: Yeah. [2:20:02, 2:20:03]: What's I think? [2:20:03, 2:20:05]: No to that and and [2:20:05, 2:20:09]: The next time we come back we'll we'll make sure to emphasize that area. [2:20:10, 2:20:13]: Well well and if I may, just for a quick minute. [2:20:14, 2:20:17]: Um and I know we all understand that parking [2:20:17, 2:20:20]: is an issue in our downtown. [2:20:20, 2:20:24]: And one thing that we have been sort of highlighting was that [2:20:24, 2:20:26]: Uh if there [2:20:26, 2:20:30]: When there are events at the amphitheater. [2:20:30, 2:20:34]: That that parking there um at the cultural arts facility. [2:20:35, 2:20:37]: would be available [2:20:37, 2:20:41]: So that w that's the reason for my question. I was trying to picture [2:20:41, 2:20:44]: How accessible would that be? [2:20:44, 2:20:48]: uh parking for uh concert goes [2:20:48, 2:20:51]: uh in that particular line. [2:20:54, 2:21:01]: Right. I we'll probably need to zoom out and and and put a zibot together where you can see that that connectivity and the possibility of that. [2:21:02, 2:21:16]: Okay. Well, and I I'll ask questions as we go, um, even um after tonight, uh, Mrs. Tovel, uh if if need be. But I appreciate uh that information, but I just want to make sure that [2:21:16, 2:21:21]: Everything coincide with the overall plan. [2:21:21, 2:21:28]: for downtown uh you know redevelopment and I think you know we have to sort of take all that in consideration. [2:21:30, 2:21:31]: Sure. [2:21:32, 2:21:34]: I yield back, Mayor. Thank you. Thank you. [2:21:35, 2:21:39]: Of course, just um a quick note on that. So we are going to improve the streetscape. [2:21:39, 2:21:42]: Along that edge, at least on the [2:21:42, 2:21:43]: Works uh [2:21:43, 2:21:46]: Birch Street side of the art center. [2:21:47, 2:21:48]: Um [2:21:48, 2:21:52]: So we will have a nice streetscape there. Um and [2:21:52, 2:21:54]: Earlier on we did have [2:21:55, 2:21:58]: a parcel on this uh property. [2:21:58, 2:22:04]: reserved for future development where you could do kind of strip retail. Um that was uh [2:22:05, 2:22:12]: you know, put to the side because of how it eliminated parking that could be uh that was needed for the art center. [2:22:12, 2:22:16]: Um but we're I'm glad to pull back up that plan if that's of interest. [2:22:19, 2:22:21]: Okay, um [2:22:21, 2:22:32]: And and and I reserve my other question for later. I won't uh tie tie up to me,'cause I know we've been sort of long already and we still have quite a bit to go tonight. But uh Mrs. Hubble, I may want to reach out to you. [2:22:33, 2:22:37]: uh at some point and and maybe discuss some other things up some I may have some other questions. [2:22:38, 2:22:39]: Sure thing. [2:22:39, 2:22:40]: All right. Thank you. [2:22:41, 2:22:43]: Is okay, go continue, please, Miss Hubble. [2:22:44, 2:23:00]: Sure, of course. So this is what the floor plan looked like in March. Obviously this was before engineers really got involved. The theater designers had been involved. That's why you see all of the uh good information on the theater itself. [2:23:00, 2:23:11]: Um but again, you know, we knew there were additional things that needed to be solved. So, you know, top on the list were acoustics and systems. So [2:23:11, 2:23:14]: uh our h or h vac, our plumbing [2:23:14, 2:23:16]: Um all the theater systems. [2:23:16, 2:23:17]: Um [2:23:18, 2:23:24]: structural system making sure that everything was going to work. So you know that was top on our list for this set. [2:23:24, 2:23:37]: Uh additionally, um you know we had received feedback to go ahead and try to increase seating capacity in the theater itself by eliminating um the individual uh private boxes. [2:23:37, 2:23:40]: Uh and then adding processional. [2:23:40, 2:23:43]: uh capability and functionality into the theater. [2:23:44, 2:23:45]: Um [2:23:45, 2:23:54]: You know, we also know knew that we need to address uh concessions, uh, due to the kind of squeezing of the theater building itself. [2:23:54, 2:24:14]: We originally started out with two concessions facilities, one on the main floor, the first floor, and one on the second floor. Uh the one on the main floor got eliminated. We only had a concession on the second floor, uh, and that created some functional issues, carrying drinks and popcorn and concessions up and down stairs for the theater uh really uh wasn't [2:24:14, 2:24:16]: doable so we need to solve that. [2:24:16, 2:24:29]: And then we need to look at re-incorporation of classrooms. So we wanted to solve where could we find space without increasing the building footprint to put back in classroom functions. [2:24:31, 2:24:33]: Uh so this is the updated floor plan. [2:24:34, 2:24:35]: Um [2:24:35, 2:24:48]: As you can see, we now have three floor plans. There was always intended to be a basement so that you know an orchestra and a pit could occur that hadn't been drawn, but now we have it drawn. You see it in the top left corner. [2:24:49, 2:24:54]: Um we have the main floor or the first floor and then we have the second floor. [2:24:55, 2:25:11]: Um so uh the uh blue components, the dark blue components again are the theater. Those are pretty much how you have seen them, uh except for some of the interior workings of the theater itself. I'm gonna talk about that increased capacity. [2:25:11, 2:25:29]: Um we have re-incorporated uh the classrooms. Those are the green components you see, the light green. Uh so we have three spaces now that can work for classrooms. Uh all of these can handle at least 25 uh people uh for a classroom setting. [2:25:30, 2:25:32]: Uh we have one that's on the first floor. [2:25:33, 2:25:46]: uh one that is on the second floor and then um a dual uh a dual flexible space that is both a theater practice space and could be a dance studio. So it's gonna have functionality for both. [2:25:46, 2:25:58]: Uh we still do have the gathering spaces which you see in red. Uh you have the main uh two-story lobby pre-function area. You still have the museum. [2:25:59, 2:26:05]: Uh and then we've taken concessions from the second story and we've moved it in. [2:26:06, 2:26:10]: Um to the first story and it is housed right here. Uh [2:26:10, 2:26:12]: due to feedback with staff. [2:26:12, 2:26:28]: Um, you know, we had a large archival space. Uh it actually appeared to be too large. So we minimized that, stretched out uh the museum space, which actually gives us more wall space for exhibits. [2:26:29, 2:26:32]: Um and incorporated the concessions down there. [2:26:33, 2:26:39]: What that did was free up a second story space uh that is a better gallery space. [2:26:39, 2:26:56]: uh than what we had previously, which was down here on the first floor. So this gallery space now is really part of this pre-function space on the second floor. And you'll actually be able to see art, have sculptures, and it will really enliven that pre-function space. [2:26:57, 2:26:59]: Ballroom remains the same. [2:27:00, 2:27:07]: Um and has not changed. Uh another thing that you'll notice is uh due to feedback and discussions uh with staff. [2:27:08, 2:27:12]: Um some of the two story spaces were really inefficient spaces. [2:27:12, 2:27:21]: So uh the museum, for instance, really didn't need the two the two-story space. So that allowed us to get some classroom space in. [2:27:21, 2:27:35]: Um the uh gallery space, which is nice at two stories, was really unusable as well. So we've used that to create uh a pre-function area to create sound isolation between um [2:27:35, 2:27:38]: you know, the entry and then that ballroom. [2:27:38, 2:27:46]: Uh so I really think you have a really robust plan here. Uh we've packed all we can in and been as efficient as we can. [2:27:46, 2:27:52]: uh so we can get some good pricing back uh and hopefully get all these com components that are uh [2:27:53, 2:27:54]: Requested and wanted. [2:27:57, 2:28:06]: Okay, Ms. Thomas, go ahead, please. Ms. Standby. Ms. Thomas, go ahead, please, sir. I I I'll wait until she finished this particular presentation. All right, sure. Go ahead, Heather. [2:28:07, 2:28:08]: Sure. [2:28:08, 2:28:28]: Um so wanted to talk about some of those items that we need to solve for. So acoustics are huge for the theater. There's no question. You know, it needs to be a high higher level than you would receive when you go into, let's say, a high school presentation or gym. [2:28:28, 2:28:42]: needs to feel professional. Everyone needs to have a great uh presentation when they go in there. We need to be able to have movies and the spoken word, theater, um, and uh [2:28:43, 2:28:50]: quartets and orchestras as well. And you know, that experience is super important. So the acoustical [2:28:50, 2:28:57]: um engineer who's involved has been very highly active in making sure we're getting everything incorporated in. [2:28:57, 2:29:01]: What that means is sound isolation is super important. [2:29:01, 2:29:17]: um sound isolation from other spaces, sound isolation from the roof, things that might filter in, including uh you know mechanical influences on the roof, all this has to be very highly thought out uh and designed properly. [2:29:18, 2:29:23]: So what that means is we are going to end up with some specialty walls in this project. [2:29:23, 2:29:24]: Uh [2:29:25, 2:29:25]: Right. [2:29:26, 2:29:35]: And I've highlighted the main ones for you here on the screen. They're not all of them, but they are kind of the key ones. So [2:29:35, 2:29:40]: Key is um the theater box. So and you see that here in yellow. [2:29:41, 2:29:44]: Um so that is gonna absolutely be especially well. [2:29:44, 2:29:48]: Uh we have gone back and forth about what that wall is. [2:29:48, 2:29:54]: Um we still may have some debate on that. Right now it is called out as precast. [2:29:54, 2:29:58]: Um that will give us the best sign isolation. [2:29:59, 2:30:00]: Uh [2:30:01, 2:30:17]: But it is an expensive wall. So we're thinking through all that carefully. There's still more discussion to occur about that, but at this stage, that is what this boundary box is, and it really will give us the best possible sound isolation. [2:30:17, 2:30:24]: Um there are also sound isolations that are planned for around the rehearsal um classroom. [2:30:24, 2:30:37]: uh because there may be theater productions going on in there, uh dance classes going on in there, and the ballroom. In those cases, those walls will more be a double wall that we can do with light age. [2:30:41, 2:30:49]: Um another key thing that really goes with sound isolation, as I mentioned, was the sound that comes down from the ceiling. [2:30:49, 2:30:56]: So it it's key for us to get uh mechanical units that have compressors off the roof. [2:30:56, 2:31:10]: And uh to do that, really what we have to do is uh invest in a central plant. Um there have been a lot of discussions about the most economical way to do that. Uh in this case, we have a four-pipe system. [2:31:11, 2:31:15]: Um and a central plant called out and that is what is gonna be priced. [2:31:15, 2:31:26]: It is currently gonna be located over here to the left, as you see, and it will be in the back of house area, so you won't see it from the front or the side of the art center. [2:31:28, 2:31:48]: Uh and then I wanted to talk about the seating. So we um we were given uh the go-ahead to try to remove the private boxes and to up the seating. So we have done that. Uh this is the updated theater plan that you see. Um we are currently at uh 405 seats, that is an [2:31:48, 2:32:08]: Approximate that will move slightly down or slightly up, pending the final chair that we select. Chairs are all a little different, and so those selections are forthcoming. The seat that has been shown here is mid-range for theater seats, so it's not a really small one, it's not a huge [2:32:08, 2:32:10]: huge one, it's kind of medium size. [2:32:11, 2:32:28]: You can see that we have removed the private seating and then we have put in these side aisles. These side aisles will stay flat with the theater surface itself, so we can do that processional up and processional back. [2:32:28, 2:32:34]: uh that would be needed for graduation or award ceremony, et cetera, to have in this space. [2:32:34, 2:32:54]: Um, you can also see that we're starting to get some articulation. Um, there's a want for a contemporary look inside of this theater. Um, so these walls will help us, but they're also the acoustical influence that you see here. Some walls need to be absorbed by the some walls need to reflect, and so. [2:32:54, 2:32:58]: all of that information is starting to get programmed into the space. [2:32:59, 2:33:02]: Um in the balcony we have maintained two private boxes. [2:33:03, 2:33:03]: Um [2:33:04, 2:33:11]: one to the left and one to the right. So there is kind of a VIP option there where you could purchase one of those two boxes. [2:33:20, 2:33:25]: Um, and those are the four main bulletin points I wanted to cover tonight. [2:33:26, 2:33:27]: Questions? [2:33:29, 2:33:36]: Uh Councilman Thomas, go ahead, please. Yes, thank you. Uh Mrs. Hubble, as you know, before uh Mr. Knighton left. [2:33:37, 2:33:45]: I shared some concerns with him and and he reached out to you and and I spoke to you as well about. [2:33:45, 2:33:49]: Um security on the first floor, on the ground floor when [2:33:49, 2:33:55]: Um folks are coming in. Can you speak to some of that? Um [2:33:56, 2:34:07]: whether it's reception area or security, just so folks cannot just walk in at will and no one knows, you know, that they are in the building. [2:34:07, 2:34:09]: And also could you share? [2:34:09, 2:34:10]: Um [2:34:10, 2:34:12]: uh storage [2:34:12, 2:34:15]: And uh are there office spaces? [2:34:15, 2:34:16]: Uh on the first floor. [2:34:18, 2:34:20]: Sure. Um [2:34:20, 2:34:23]: Yes, so I did receive the that feedback. [2:34:23, 2:34:24]: Um we [2:34:25, 2:34:45]: uh intend to incorporate the security. It has not been completely flushed out. There still needs to be work done on this central space that is all forthcoming. Our intent is to enlarge uh this room and express that uh [2:34:45, 2:34:45]: Desk. [2:34:46, 2:34:49]: more to allow for that to be a security desk. [2:34:50, 2:35:01]: uh as well as a reception, um you will see it uh balloon more into this plan. Uh that's part of that interiors focus forthcoming. [2:35:01, 2:35:03]: Um as far as the offices. [2:35:03, 2:35:04]: Uh [2:35:05, 2:35:22]: those have been left on the second floor, something has to go on the second floor. So then the giveaway the I guess compromise is the best way to say is that that reception and security desk on the first floor and then the office space remains on the second floor. [2:35:22, 2:35:25]: If there's if there's still concerns about this layout. [2:35:25, 2:35:33]: uh in this uh method, glad to hear them and um adjust as properly. There's really not room for a [2:35:34, 2:35:34]: Yeah. [2:35:35, 2:35:44]: office we on the first floor unless we move a couple of pieces to the second floor and then that's a really big move for this whole floor plan. [2:35:45, 2:35:47]: Uh the other concern was [2:35:48, 2:35:53]: And looking at the green room at the amphitheater. [2:35:53, 2:35:59]: Um strategically looked like some of the outlets were not. [2:36:00, 2:36:03]: А конвентли плясть [2:36:03, 2:36:09]: Um did you take any of that in consideration uh in laying out [2:36:09, 2:36:15]: uh electrical outlet boxes um in the uh culture art center. [2:36:15, 2:36:21]: Sure. Um so we're not to the electrical layout per individual outlets. [2:36:21, 2:36:25]: Um but I have heard of that concern. I know we're uh [2:36:27, 2:36:29]: preparing to address it for that green room. [2:36:30, 2:36:34]: And we'll make sure that uh that adjustment is made here. [2:36:35, 2:36:35]: All right. [2:36:35, 2:36:38]: Thank you. I yield back, Maya. Thank you. [2:36:38, 2:36:40]: Any other questions for storage storage? [2:36:41, 2:36:42]: Mrs. Table. [2:36:43, 2:36:48]: Oh yes, I apologize. So storage is throughout uh this plan. [2:36:48, 2:36:52]: Um there are there's large storage rooms in the back. [2:36:52, 2:37:05]: That you can see here, there's also a large building services area here as well on as the second floor. And then we have classroom storage here on the second floor. [2:37:05, 2:37:14]: This is done throughout the plan. There are lots of different specific storage rooms. Here we have a ballroom storage. So [2:37:15, 2:37:21]: Glad to provide more kind of breakdown of how much storage we have, but we feel currently that we're adequate. [2:37:25, 2:37:25]: Good deal. [2:37:26, 2:37:28]: Any other question from Ms. Hobel? [2:37:30, 2:37:30]: Okay. [2:37:31, 2:37:32]: Anything else, Miss Hubble? [2:37:34, 2:37:35]: That's it. [2:37:35, 2:37:36]: Okay. [2:37:37, 2:37:39]: Thank you for your time. Appreciate it. [2:37:42, 2:37:43]: You're done. [2:37:44, 2:37:45]: I'm sorry, go ahead, Carl. [2:37:45, 2:37:46]: Sure. [2:37:46, 2:37:55]: Uh getting my share screen back up. Thank you, Heather. And hang on, Heather, because there might be some other questions about other projects that come up that that you'll be able to answer for me. [2:37:55, 2:38:06]: So looking at the cultural arts project sheet here, the as we just talked about, the schematic drawings are now complete. [2:38:06, 2:38:26]: The city has started the procurement process for the construction manager at risk. Um step one has been completed and there were uh three firms that submitted qualifications. Uh I believe that those are being reviewed uh by the procurement office and uh will determine [2:38:27, 2:38:33]: Uh which one of those are all those that may move into step two of the procurement process? [2:38:33, 2:38:45]: But we're looking at getting our construction manager at risk on board sometime in January. Now that's gonna be very important for us to have them on board as we tackle budget issues and [2:38:45, 2:38:55]: and look at um internally with the design team of cost of construction and and bantering ideas about different things. So the construction managers [2:38:56, 2:39:00]: dear to the ground will be very helpful for us moving forward. [2:39:00, 2:39:01]: Um [2:39:03, 2:39:07]: Just a couple of other things on the status. Uh probably don't need to get in too much detail, but [2:39:08, 2:39:11]: Uh Heather and her group are involving uh [2:39:11, 2:39:13]: uh Georgia D O T regarding [2:39:13, 2:39:17]: Solving some improvements that are required along North Henry Boulevard. [2:39:18, 2:39:22]: It looks like that might require some additional right of way. [2:39:22, 2:39:27]: uh as we probably are going to have to entertain uh introducing a deceleration lane. [2:39:28, 2:39:32]: Uh so there may be some some right of way issues to deal with at some point. [2:39:33, 2:39:53]: Um and then um we're also in into site due diligence. We're initiating the geotechnical studies, the seismic studies, uh looking at all the utility uh availability and relocations with Georgia Power. So those that's where we're basically that's what's going on on site is doing this uh [2:39:53, 2:39:54]: This new diligence. [2:39:56, 2:40:05]: Um financially, uh obviously, I guess it's my job, but you know, there's always a concern about what's the cost of this project. [2:40:05, 2:40:16]: Um and uh so we have um Heather's a costing consultant now has been given the schematic package set. Uh we went through a very good detailed [2:40:17, 2:40:26]: uh workshop with them. I think it was a Friday before um last week. And so now they are embarking on a very [2:40:27, 2:40:47]: um a detailed um costing exercise. So we're awaiting with bated breath um what those numbers are gonna be when they come back. But uh certainly, you know, I guess I guess my job is to be concerned about it. Uh the market is very volatile. Uh you know we're hitting an inflation site. [2:40:47, 2:40:47]: Michael. [2:40:47, 2:40:52]: Um so there's a lot of there's a lot of cost pressures on this project right now. [2:40:53, 2:41:13]: uh in addition to you know additional programming that that may creep into the project uh already or as we go along. So uh just wanted to to state that that uh you know we we really are going to be at a reconciliation point soon to see what what this project market value is versus uh the dollars available [2:41:12, 2:41:16]: available. And so that that time that's going to be coming up very shortly. [2:41:18, 2:41:29]: Um so just going through some key points on the timeline. Uh mentioned a few of those, but further down the line as we move through year 22. [2:41:29, 2:41:38]: Um there's gonna be uh several steps of design. Um the as we finish schematic design, we'll be into design development. [2:41:39, 2:41:40]: That package shouldn't be complete. [2:41:41, 2:41:47]: Around June, uh we will meet again to make a budget reconciliation at that point. Make sure we're in budget. [2:41:48, 2:41:52]: Uh the the construction documents will be complete in November. [2:41:52, 2:41:53]: Um [2:41:53, 2:41:55]: Those will be permit ready. [2:41:55, 2:41:58]: Um and also another opportunity to [2:41:58, 2:42:04]: Uh well that's gonna be our final opportunity to to cost check this project, uh making sure we're in budget. [2:42:04, 2:42:05]: Um so [2:42:06, 2:42:07]: You know, in addition to [2:42:08, 2:42:09]: The already known [2:42:10, 2:42:16]: inflationary factors that are in the market right now. We also have to understand that we're not letting this project [2:42:16, 2:42:17]: Um [2:42:17, 2:42:27]: to the contractor until the end of two thousand twenty two and there's a lot of unknowns of what's gonna happen market wise between now and then. So [2:42:28, 2:42:32]: You know, the the whole the whole year of twenty two as we finished this design. [2:42:33, 2:42:36]: Uh is going to be it's gonna require [2:42:36, 2:42:39]: Uh quite an effort to make sure we keep the project in budget. [2:42:40, 2:42:44]: Um, there's gonna be a lot of decisions that need to be made that um you know that that's [2:42:45, 2:42:47]: That'll be we'll deal with that as we go. [2:42:47, 2:42:50]: Uh but I just want you to be prepared for that. But um [2:42:50, 2:42:53]: That that's the reality of the market right now. [2:42:53, 2:42:58]: Um so we're keying on um being able to start construction. [2:42:58, 2:43:00]: January of twenty three. [2:43:01, 2:43:02]: I will tell you that's a [2:43:02, 2:43:05]: That's an awful time of the year to bring a project out of the ground. [2:43:06, 2:43:12]: Um generally we don't try to bring anything out of the ground in January, February. So we'll need to talk carefully about [2:43:12, 2:43:20]: uh when we want to uh to initiate the uh national construction of the project. But again, that's a discussion for another day. [2:43:22, 2:43:30]: Um, so that's the end of the project sheet for the Cultural Arts Center. I'll entertain any additional questions about what I've just gone through here, if there are any. [2:43:33, 2:43:35]: Mayor. Yeah, go right here, Mayor Proton. [2:43:35, 2:43:40]: Yeah, I'm just a bit dumbfounded. It's gonna take an entire year to put the plan together. [2:43:41, 2:43:42]: She's [2:43:45, 2:43:50]: I w I was I was certainly hoping for a very a much more ambitious timetable than that. Um [2:43:51, 2:43:56]: We have the fund funding in place and everything, and it's gonna take that long for us to move forward. Jeez. [2:44:01, 2:44:13]: Certainly that is that is a timeline that's that's been put together. There's a very detailed uh chart that outlines all the activities that have to be done between now and the start of construction. [2:44:13, 2:44:19]: You know, a lot of those are are well, all of those are are driven by the ability of the design team to [2:44:19, 2:44:36]: to move through uh what they need to do. So um I don't know, Heather, if you want to comment any additional uh have any additional comments on on your design timeline. Uh sure is the driver of the pro of the uh pre-development budget or the predevelopment schedule. [2:44:36, 2:44:38]: Sure, of course. Um [2:44:38, 2:44:43]: As you can as you can tell just from the presentation I just made. [2:44:43, 2:44:47]: that uh we have a schematic set that has 97 sheets. [2:44:48, 2:45:04]: That is a huge amount of sheets and we're just beginning to address all the nuts and bolts that need to be addressed for a fully functional art center. Um this is uh much more technical and uh complicated than [2:45:04, 2:45:06]: Uh the amphitheatre is [2:45:06, 2:45:10]: Um everything is in t is inside. [2:45:10, 2:45:17]: Uh everything has to be very controlled and precisely done, uh, or we get into construction and it's a mess. [2:45:18, 2:45:33]: So we really need to give the engineers and all the designers the time it takes to really do a great job of designing and detailing because we have a ton of specialty rooms, classrooms, ballroom, theater. [2:45:33, 2:45:40]: Um all of these things uh need to be done so that you're satisfied with the end product. [2:45:40, 2:45:45]: Uh and it it takes time to make sure we're coordinating and doing that properly. [2:45:47, 2:46:07]: I would just add that similar projects of this complexity of this size, um, in my experience, um, this is the this is in my mind the correct timeline for this. Um, I think rushing this uh gives us the opportunity to miss too many details. And I certainly don't want to be [2:46:07, 2:46:17]: standing before you as construction starts and you know trying to make excuses as to why a lot of details are missed. I I just think that haste makes waste. [2:46:18, 2:46:20]: I know that's placheus, but um [2:46:20, 2:46:23]: trying to fast track this this um [2:46:23, 2:46:26]: This timeline I think would be a detriment to the project. [2:46:30, 2:46:31]: Councilwoman Barber, go ahead, please. [2:46:34, 2:46:42]: Yeah, I think um Mr. Trevathan and Ms. Hubble just explained. Um I have the same concerns as Mayor Pro Tem Alexander. [2:46:42, 2:46:44]: Uh, I kind of was expecting [2:46:45, 2:46:47]: groundbreaking at the end of the year. [2:46:47, 2:46:48]: Um [2:46:48, 2:46:49]: So [2:46:50, 2:46:53]: I remember us approving this during the retreat. [2:46:54, 2:46:55]: So between now [2:46:56, 2:46:57]: Well, between [2:46:57, 2:46:59]: February up until now. [2:47:01, 2:47:02]: Has it just been the [2:47:03, 2:47:04]: Design or [2:47:07, 2:47:08]: What has been transpiring? [2:47:09, 2:47:11]: From February up until this point. [2:47:14, 2:47:15]: So [2:47:15, 2:47:18]: Fees for professional um [2:47:18, 2:47:21]: Design work with all the engineers didn't get approved. [2:47:22, 2:47:25]: Um until the end of [2:47:25, 2:47:26]: August. [2:47:27, 2:47:40]: So we didn't get started until September. And immediately within two weeks, we did the programming survey to get feedback from council on how to move forward appropriately. [2:47:40, 2:47:43]: And then we've only had six weeks or [2:47:43, 2:47:44]: Um [2:47:44, 2:47:51]: uh eight weeks to get to where we are now, which is schematic. So we did not get started till the end of August. [2:47:51, 2:47:53]: Awesome. Thank you. Thank you very much. [2:47:55, 2:47:57]: Yeah, questions. [2:47:59, 2:48:19]: All right, Carl, Heather, thank you for your presentation. All right. A few more projects just to give you an update on. I think we can move through these pretty quick. Ted Strickland renovation documents, uh construction documents are complete. Uh, and the uh the bidding phase for the general contractor should be occurring soon. [2:48:19, 2:48:24]: I don't have the exact date from the procurement offices or when those are happening, but it's [2:48:24, 2:48:26]: Um very eminent. [2:48:29, 2:48:31]: I'll move through these quick. So if you got a uh [2:48:31, 2:48:33]: Got a question, jump in. [2:48:33, 2:48:49]: Um the uh 114 uh Martin Luther King Senior tenant space renovation has been let for bid and uh bids have been received and the um city procurement office is in the in the negotiating phase with general contractors on that. [2:48:49, 2:48:55]: So as soon as the contractor is on board, uh that project can begin construction. [2:48:59, 2:49:01]: Uh let's see. [2:49:02, 2:49:06]: So the amphitheatre spa splash pad, um I I think it's [2:49:07, 2:49:13]: I think this one needs a little bit of attention. I know that CSW is awaiting approval of their task order for the concept drawing, so [2:49:14, 2:49:20]: Um I would just uh urge um whatever it takes to get [2:49:20, 2:49:22]: TSW turned loose to move forward. [2:49:23, 2:49:33]: Um I know that it was the intention of getting this flash pad project completed next year. I think attention needs to be given to the approval so that uh uh [2:49:34, 2:49:36]: Heather Steam can get started on that. [2:49:37, 2:49:39]: And you want to add anything to that, Heather? [2:49:44, 2:49:45]: Not at this time. [2:49:45, 2:49:46]: Okay. [2:49:47, 2:49:48]: Um [2:49:50, 2:49:56]: Mayor, if I may. Yeah, go ahead, Councilman Thomas. Carl, you you just made a statement about [2:49:57, 2:49:57]: Um [2:50:00, 2:50:05]: It was something about procurement and you said that you was waiting. [2:50:05, 2:50:07]: Can can you repeat that that statement? [2:50:08, 2:50:11]: Uh, I believe that was a project um [2:50:13, 2:50:15]: one fourteen M LK [2:50:15, 2:50:16]: Senior tenant. [2:50:16, 2:50:21]: Renovation is that the one that you want to about that or it might have been about the [2:50:22, 2:50:25]: I'm not sure if it was about to tell. I I got sort of distracted but [2:50:26, 2:50:28]: Right. [2:50:29, 2:50:33]: on something and I just want to ask the question. I was going to ask um [2:50:33, 2:50:34]: Mr. Wiggins [2:50:35, 2:50:38]: Uh a a question as it relates to [2:50:38, 2:50:48]: uh procurement and I was uh looking for a timeline, but uh I'll I'll let you go go go through uh it may come back to me, but I I sort of heard that [2:50:48, 2:50:52]: I was writing something and I heard you say something and I didn't fully understand. [2:50:53, 2:50:56]: But I wanted to get a better understanding on timelines. [2:50:56, 2:50:58]: Um from [2:50:59, 2:51:02]: you know, in in procurement, how [2:51:02, 2:51:07]: things are sort of moving forward, you know. And I guess my concern is [2:51:07, 2:51:08]: Waiting. [2:51:09, 2:51:12]: It see when I keep hearing waiting. [2:51:12, 2:51:15]: And with some presentation I've heard um [2:51:16, 2:51:19]: Uh someone say uh waiting on uh [2:51:19, 2:51:25]: further instruction. See things like that. I get a little upset when [2:51:26, 2:51:29]: When you have folks ready to move and they're waiting. [2:51:30, 2:51:32]: on further instructions or [2:51:32, 2:51:35]: We're waiting on something to to happen. [2:51:36, 2:51:41]: Um, but anyway, that that just sort of my concern and I just wanted to make sure that [2:51:42, 2:51:42]: Um [2:51:43, 2:52:03]: Everybody is just doing what they need to do. I was a little concerned about uh the schedule for the uh cultural arts, but I had already asked that question uh to Mrs. Hubble before, and she sort of told me what she told you all, and I was a little disappointed in that as well. So that's why I'm sort of speaking to. [2:52:03, 2:52:10]: To these processes, and we have to make sure that when the ball is handed off to the next entity. [2:52:10, 2:52:12]: That is continuously moving. [2:52:12, 2:52:14]: And if there's something within [2:52:15, 2:52:27]: in our uh ability, say our procurement or our city manager or whatever, we just need to make sure that these things are moving. And so you just sort of caught my ear when you said something about [2:52:27, 2:52:34]: um you were waiting on something and i i was a little concerned about that but i'll let you go forward though and finish [2:52:35, 2:52:37]: Okay, thank you for that. [2:52:38, 2:52:39]: Um [2:52:40, 2:52:56]: So the Merrill Manders conference refresh again is in the same uh spot um that and I hate to use the word awaiting after that, but um TSW is needing approval of their task order for that to do the concept drawings. [2:52:57, 2:52:59]: uh on on this project. [2:53:02, 2:53:04]: A few more left here. [2:53:05, 2:53:05]: Um [2:53:06, 2:53:10]: park system plan that TSW is working on. [2:53:13, 2:53:20]: Heather is working on a task order proposal that um I'm not sure exactly what your timeline is, Heather, to have that sent. [2:53:20, 2:53:24]: Uh, but I know you told me this uh past week that you were working on getting that. [2:53:25, 2:53:26]: Uh proposal ready. [2:53:26, 2:53:31]: Th this one is actually on uh the agenda tonight under old. [2:53:31, 2:53:32]: Old business. [2:53:33, 2:53:34]: Okay, that's true. Yes. [2:53:37, 2:53:37]: Thank you. [2:53:39, 2:53:54]: Uh the per public works storage facility concepts have been completed uh by TSW. Uh so uh I guess that Heather now needs to uh to work through the approvals of that with the city before uh [2:53:54, 2:53:57]: before that project moves forward. Have you got any other comments about that one? [2:53:58, 2:54:02]: Uh yes, you know, uh the awaiting is is not uh [2:54:03, 2:54:15]: Correct on this. Uh this task order was only four concepts. Um we have received feedback from the city uh and I actually owe them a new floor plan uh that has been [2:54:15, 2:54:18]: completed and will get sent to Dacious this week. [2:54:19, 2:54:31]: Right. And I'm going to going forward make sure I carefully choose whether I use the word awaiting on anything and give you a better definition of what we're really doing at that point. So I I do appreciate those comments and feedback. [2:54:31, 2:54:34]: And how we present these reports. [2:54:35, 2:54:43]: Um the last one I wanted to bring up is the police headquarters. I believe it's on the docket uh for TSW's task order to be approved tonight. [2:54:44, 2:54:47]: Uh we'll be moving very quickly with that. Um [2:54:47, 2:54:48]: My discussions [2:54:49, 2:54:50]: Earlier today. [2:54:50, 2:54:53]: Uh uh with uh Chief Tramor. [2:54:53, 2:55:10]: uh was that this does have a very quick timeline in order to get him uh up and running uh this summer according to his timeline. So uh this project is gonna have to to find a way to move very quickly to uh to accommodate that. And so we'll be uh [2:55:10, 2:55:15]: Working on a plan uh that accomplishes that time frame. [2:55:18, 2:55:25]: Uh so that's the end of my presentation. If there's not any more questions for me, I will give it back to you, Mayor. [2:55:25, 2:55:32]: All right, thank you, sir. Any any any final questions for uh Carl and Heather uh give up to podium. [2:55:33, 2:55:35]: I see none. Okay. [2:55:36, 2:55:45]: All right. On that note, uh Interdev projects update, status and timeline, Ashley Smith, Nathan Holder or Mr. Bonds. [2:55:53, 2:55:55]: Bear with me. [2:55:56, 2:56:00]: Well good evening, honorable mayor and council. I'm Nathan Holder with Interdev. [2:56:00, 2:56:09]: Uh, thank you for having us. Um, full disclosure, Ash Ashley Smith, our CIO or your CIO, was slated to give this presentation. We had a hard stop at [2:56:10, 2:56:17]: eight thirty so we're in a next man up situation. So me and uh me and Robert will get you guys through this. Uh [2:56:17, 2:56:32]: But uh the good news is uh our presentation I don't think will be as long as the previous ones. So um and and in fact I could probably run through these slides right quick and uh save questions to the end. But if you have any, ple please feel free to interject. [2:56:33, 2:56:34]: Right um [2:56:35, 2:56:49]: I like to start out with uh always ta uh mentioning the Interdev team because uh Robert Bonds is the person you see every day on site here. But uh Ashley Smith's your CIO. He has a team of engineers that also assist. [2:56:49, 2:56:53]: Robert on a weekly basis on various projects. Uh Jesse Kale are [2:56:54, 2:57:12]: Chief Information Security Officer. Uh his team he has a team of dedicated security professionals that have gotten more involved on the Stockbridge account just due to the increased importance of cybersecurity. So his team in our back office actually monitor actually monitors a lot of your uh infrastructure on a week on a weekly basis. [2:57:13, 2:57:20]: Then you have myself as your account manager and Britton Wilson, our service delivery manager, who monitors your service board and ensures we're adhering to our SLAs. [2:57:22, 2:57:24]: Um I'll run through these [2:57:24, 2:57:28]: Current projects this year, uh, and then we'll move forward to next year. Uh there's [2:57:29, 2:57:33]: Six in total. Um, and I'll go through each of them right quick. [2:57:34, 2:57:34]: Um [2:57:35, 2:57:38]: First one is we up uh we're upgrading your [2:57:39, 2:57:43]: Backup and disaster recovery platform. You're on a barracuda appliance now, but uh [2:57:44, 2:57:50]: We're uh beefing up your backup to Veeam, uh, which is a better solution for you and uh [2:57:50, 2:57:54]: We're replicating it between city hall and public works. [2:57:55, 2:57:57]: Uh that way if one goes down [2:57:57, 2:58:09]: we recover at another site and there's no loss in in data or connectivity. Uh we'll eventually expand that uh to City Hall public public works and the police department. Um [2:58:09, 2:58:12]: with also in the future a cloud replication. [2:58:13, 2:58:15]: Um as uh budget allows. [2:58:15, 2:58:22]: Um and that should be actually that's in progress and actually should be completed um the uh end or the middle of next month. [2:58:22, 2:58:26]: Um, we upgraded your firewall this year, as you'll see a trend. [2:58:27, 2:58:32]: Cybersecurity is more and more important. You know, our job is we want to keep [2:58:32, 2:58:34]: Our customers out of the news from [2:58:35, 2:58:40]: being hacked so and a f a firewall is one of the biggest ways you can prevent that. [2:58:40, 2:58:42]: Uh so we upgraded from your [2:58:42, 2:58:48]: Marocke system to uh forta fortigate, uh which is kind of our our standard and [2:58:49, 2:58:49]: Um [2:58:50, 2:58:52]: We have placed that in high availability and [2:58:53, 2:58:56]: In layman's terms, that means that if one appliance goes down. [2:58:57, 2:59:09]: the uh you don't lose any internet connectivity uh at your site'cause uh you have redundancy in place. Uh before you did not. So that would that was a big accomplishment on our end. And that was uh completed um [2:59:10, 2:59:11]: Back in um [2:59:11, 2:59:12]: Лейт Октоб. [2:59:13, 2:59:18]: Um our security team uh has implemented Sentinel One. [2:59:18, 2:59:21]: Antivirus, this is a big deal because a lot of cyber [2:59:22, 2:59:25]: Секюрін. [2:59:26, 2:59:32]: Uh you you can't even get cyber insurance unless you have in point detection a response, which you did not before. [2:59:32, 2:59:37]: You do na have that now with this new platform. And it so the importance of that is [2:59:38, 2:59:38]: If [2:59:39, 2:59:50]: Your uh the software sees a threat um hitting your system, our our secure it reports it to our back office security team immediately and they [2:59:50, 2:59:56]: immediately begin instant response and prevent a bad situation from happening. Um [2:59:56, 2:59:59]: And that's again a c cyber security standard. [3:00:00, 3:00:04]: moving forward, uh, that just had has to be in place. Um [3:00:05, 3:00:11]: The Robert, you could probably p uh pick uh piggyback on this one because you were involved with the city network. [3:00:11, 3:00:13]: Connectivity project. [3:00:15, 3:00:30]: Definitely. Um multiple uh buildings that we have were on uh different circuits, one of them bringing Airspring. So we wanted to uh give them a more robust connection with AT<unk>T fiber so that all the buildings are on the same network. [3:00:30, 3:00:47]: uh on one billing cycle that way it's easy for us as far as spending, but also just to make sure that um each building has an adequate internet connection, uh which before we did not. Some buildings had good connections, some buildings didn't, and we just combined those until ATT fiber. [3:00:50, 3:00:50]: Okay. [3:00:52, 3:00:58]: The amphitheater, that was obviously a big project this year. Uh we built out your network. Um [3:00:58, 3:01:06]: Gotta give kudos to our team because there's some last minute network equipment that had to be ordered. And we had a small army down there at the amphitheater helping Robert. Uh [3:01:06, 3:01:14]: meet the deadline so uh before that first concert. Uh and we're able to do it. Um and that is uh up and running. [3:01:16, 3:01:21]: Uh the public works building, your network down there, that's actually [3:01:22, 3:01:29]: uh slated to could uh be completed at the end of this week, but Robert, that might have been completed as early as this evening. [3:01:30, 3:01:30]: Correct. [3:01:31, 3:01:37]: Correct. The final connection for the JCI uh security cameras and car readers were [3:01:37, 3:01:41]: uh finally connected this this afternoon. So we are done. [3:01:41, 3:01:42]: Very good. [3:01:42, 3:01:48]: Yeah, we had one of our network engineers, Kai Parker, uh who so a lot of you guys know out there finishing that up today. [3:01:49, 3:01:51]: So moving forward into twenty twenty two. [3:01:52, 3:01:52]: Um [3:01:53, 3:01:57]: These are kind of some of our big initiatives, multi-factor authentication. [3:01:58, 3:02:06]: Again, a standard for insurance companies, you have to have it for you to get coverage. Um we'll be deploying that citywide. [3:02:06, 3:02:14]: And uh that'll what that'll entail is periodically when you try to log into your Microsoft account, you might get a uh push notification on your phone. [3:02:14, 3:02:16]: And sharing it's you. [3:02:16, 3:02:18]: uh just another layer of security. [3:02:18, 3:02:28]: And when that's in place, it's really um it really prevents uh attacks from happening. Uh dark web monitoring, um [3:02:28, 3:02:30]: Kind of a small project, but uh [3:02:31, 3:02:31]: It's [3:02:31, 3:02:35]: It's a platform we use to monitor to make sure that um [3:02:36, 3:02:41]: proprietary city information confidential stuff is not being posted on the dark web. [3:02:41, 3:02:44]: Uh and it alert and alerts us if it is. [3:02:44, 3:02:45]: Um [3:02:46, 3:02:47]: Email security [3:02:47, 3:02:56]: We're upgrading that platform to decrease the on as you guys have probably seen over the years. Spam becomes more and more of an issue. So [3:02:56, 3:03:05]: The the more we upgrade and beef that uh that email protection up, the less spam you should be receiving. And uh and this should go a long way in preventing that. Um [3:03:06, 3:03:09]: But perhaps the two biggest projects coming up that uh [3:03:09, 3:03:25]: We have not been we're not quoted yet, but to be determined as the new police department, which, you know, as Kekka would mention, there's going to be a fast timeline on that. So we'll be looking forward to working with Chief um and others on, you know, what all that's going to entail to get that network up and running. Um and all the [3:03:26, 3:03:30]: Technology and resources that a new police department r requires. [3:03:30, 3:03:31]: Um [3:03:32, 3:03:33]: And um [3:03:33, 3:03:40]: Yeah, we're we're anxious and that'll also require additional resources that we budget for next next year as well. [3:03:40, 3:03:48]: Um, and that likewise the Ted Strickland building will be needing to plan that out sooner than later on the network. So [3:03:48, 3:03:50]: That is [3:03:51, 3:03:59]: I know a very quick run through. Um, hope I didn't go too fast. I probably did, but we're Rob and I are happy to field any questions. [3:04:01, 3:04:03]: In questions council at all. [3:04:06, 3:04:07]: Um [3:04:07, 3:04:08]: Yeah, go ahead, Miss Barber. [3:04:08, 3:04:11]: So is Chief Tramer on the line? [3:04:12, 3:04:13]: T years. [3:04:16, 3:04:17]: Keep training up. [3:04:18, 3:04:19]: I just had a good. [3:04:19, 3:04:20]: Відрасті [3:04:21, 3:04:22]: Um the email [3:04:23, 3:04:28]: Regarding the cameras, um, I think Mayor Pro Tem Alexander were asking about [3:04:28, 3:04:33]: earlier today. What role would IT? [3:04:33, 3:04:35]: playing in those [3:04:35, 3:04:37]: Cameras or the install. [3:04:38, 3:04:41]: Yeah, they wouldn't play a role in the install, but they uh [3:04:41, 3:04:45]: cameras that would require uh network connectivity, I believe that [3:04:46, 3:04:51]: they would have to get involved in that, especially some of the cameras that we have that will be [3:04:51, 3:05:00]: place around the city. They're gonna have to feed into the cloud somehow. We'll have to be able to bring that back to the video management system. [3:05:00, 3:05:08]: And I'm not an IT person, so they might be able to speak more intelligently to that. I know they'll be involved, but they won't be involved directly with the installation. [3:05:09, 3:05:12]: Okay. Yes, I would uh I mean we would definitely ask that. [3:05:12, 3:05:13]: You know [3:05:13, 3:05:19]: Our team, especially Ashra, CEO CIO, I mean, he has so much familiarity with police systems. So [3:05:20, 3:05:24]: Even as those decisions of selecting those vendors is coming up, you know, we want to [3:05:24, 3:05:28]: make sure we're involved in that and consulting and even that in that selection. [3:05:31, 3:05:32]: Okay. [3:05:32, 3:05:43]: So Mr. Holder, do you do you anticipate an increase in manpower to accommodate um the rollout of our police department? [3:05:43, 3:05:58]: Yes, ma'am. And we put we uh I don't have that number in front of me, but Ashley Smith, he he has put it in the budget for next year, but it wouldn't go into effect until it until it is needed. But you you're looking at at le uh another full time person. [3:05:58, 3:06:00]: I would imagine. Um [3:06:01, 3:06:05]: to you know support support of police force tet the technology wise. [3:06:05, 3:06:14]: Okay. I certainly would want um once we get a new city manager on board, this is something I certainly would want us to consider. [3:06:14, 3:06:17]: Um perhaps bringing this in-house. [3:06:17, 3:06:18]: Um [3:06:20, 3:06:20]: Just a thought. [3:06:21, 3:06:22]: But that's all. [3:06:24, 3:06:25]: Any other questions, Council? [3:06:27, 3:06:33]: Uh yes, uh, real quick. Go ahead. Uh in terms of the overall, we had talked about uh having [3:06:33, 3:06:42]: Coverage for downtown as a whole. So, what is the range on what we have at the amphitheater now? So, if you're at the amphitheater, [3:06:42, 3:06:47]: and you wanna uh have that downtown connection, what is the range on that? [3:06:50, 3:06:55]: Are are you talking about like wireless? Wi Fi, yes. Okay. [3:06:55, 3:06:58]: Robert, would would you be able to answer that? [3:06:58, 3:07:17]: Yeah, right now we only have Wi-Fi for the actual seating and the parking lot of the amphitheater. We would need to expand, uh, get more devices or more services from uh ATT, our current provider. If we want to expand that, uh that's a pretty sizable uh fee, but it can be done. But right now. [3:07:17, 3:07:18]: Yeah. [3:07:18, 3:07:21]: only covers the amphitheater and his guests. [3:07:22, 3:07:28]: Well, we had had the previous discussions about the entire downtown being covered. We wanted to be an attraction point. [3:07:29, 3:07:32]: So when you do come downtown or walk on the trails or what have you. [3:07:32, 3:07:35]: That you have access to the to the Wi Fi. [3:07:36, 3:07:39]: So I guess that's something we need to put together and see. [3:07:39, 3:07:42]: uh what that looks like in terms of overall cost. [3:07:44, 3:08:00]: Definitely, we can definitely um work with Ashley to do that, get that uh cost. Um and also, I guess, uh get with uh the mayor about exactly what those bounds are, so that way we know we cover everything. [3:08:00, 3:08:10]: Uh, because we don't wanna misquote um if we leave somebody out. So if we get a clear definition of what needs to be covered, we definitely come back with that cost. [3:08:11, 3:08:23]: All right, we can work on that. Definitely. All right. And may approach him. That was a that did come up uh with Randy Knight and I believe the week before he left. So I think it kind of stalled after that. But yeah, we can follow up. [3:08:25, 3:08:29]: Okay. All right. Anything else, Council? [3:08:32, 3:08:39]: All right, I don't see anything else at this moment. Okay. Uh thank you, gentlemen. Appreciate that. Uh thank you. Okay. [3:08:39, 3:08:47]: On this at this is a time uh councilman Thomas, go ahead, please. Uh I don't have any question for any of that. I I have a closing [3:08:47, 3:08:52]: statement I'd just like to make um and a request uh [3:08:52, 3:08:56]: at the end of this segment if if if that is the end. [3:08:57, 3:09:01]: It is the end. Actually, what it is, I was gonna ask for us to go into executive session. [3:09:01, 3:09:03]: Um real quick. [3:09:04, 3:09:11]: Well, go ahead. But it has to come after this section here. And if I may, just go ahead and get into that. I just wanted to um um [3:09:13, 3:09:26]: share with the council, you know, at our at our last meeting, uh, I made this request for these updates. And and I hope that mayor and council, I hope that we all see now and understand how important [3:09:27, 3:09:29]: Uh these updates were [3:09:29, 3:09:32]: Uh a lot of things that we didn't know. [3:09:33, 3:09:35]: Uh we injected a lot of things in. [3:09:36, 3:09:42]: And I won't really get too deep into that, but I think it was so important tonight and I think it was eye-opening for all of us. [3:09:43, 3:09:46]: So my my recommendation now is [3:09:46, 3:09:54]: And and and I'm gonna ask the city clerk to to weigh in on this, but I think that going forward, we need to require [3:09:54, 3:09:56]: Uh the city manager [3:09:56, 3:10:00]: to give us a m in his um monthly report. [3:10:01, 3:10:05]: uh a a an update a status update [3:10:05, 3:10:10]: on all project. I think this is a must for us to have going forward. For me. [3:10:11, 3:10:31]: I see clearly we we needed that because we were so in the blind of all of these projects. And even uh I think citizens now understand too that we are in a lot of the infrastructure for this city. It's not about all of the bells and the whistles, you know, the amphitheater and the culture art, but we are [3:10:31, 3:10:50]: Are paying attention to the infrastructure, you know, the guts and the framework of this city. And I think it was good information that came out tonight. But just to cut my little speech here short, I like to recommend, and I don't know if that is in the job description of the city manager, a monthly report. [3:10:50, 3:11:10]: Um that will give us a status update. And the mayor, if I may, you may know this, the city clerk, you may know, but I don't know if that is in the job description. And if it's not, I like to make sure that this is a requirement of the city manager coming in to give us uh a monthly update uh on all projects. [3:11:10, 3:11:11]: [11473.0, 11485.5]: We can easily add tag that to that city manager and to the interim until we get the city manager if that's the case. But yes, uh, we can do it. I can't recall if it's out outrightly outlined in this in the job description. I'm pretty sure there's something similar to that. [3:11:26, 3:11:27]: And but we can take care of that. [3:11:27, 3:11:34]: Okay. No problem. It is important for us to uh get these updates because we need to be in the know. [3:11:34, 3:11:54]: Thank you, sir. No problem, you're welcome. At this point, I'd like the motion to uh go into executive session uh and to deal with real estate issues and and that means that uh upon this approval, besides the council, but all our attorneys uh would need to get a connectivity to that uh separate um uh link along with Mr. Peterson. [3:11:54, 3:12:02]: And I don't think I think and everybody else will just have to be on standby till we get back to the regular session, I believe, at this point. [3:12:03, 3:12:05]: Okay. Gotta get a motion on that, please. [3:12:06, 3:12:12]: Yeah, so we're gonna move that we go into um executive session to discuss real estate matters. [3:12:12, 3:12:13]: Okay, so a second. [3:12:15, 3:12:18]: Uh Mr. Thomas seconds that okay, all in favor, please indicate. [3:12:20, 3:12:21]: Um [3:12:22, 3:12:25]: I agree, but are we not discussing personnel matters? [3:12:26, 3:12:32]: That's not that's we weren't going to discuss it. That was not part of uh the executive session for this evening. [3:12:33, 3:12:34]: Okay. [3:12:34, 3:12:35]: All right. [3:12:35, 3:12:45]: And so uh uh all in favor, uh make sure I got that right. All we got a consensus here, I think, uh that aspect. And um [3:12:45, 3:12:50]: What happened okay. Well, I don't even see um [3:12:51, 3:12:54]: Councilwoman Barb uh not Barber, but uh Dan. [3:12:55, 3:12:57]: Is she not in the meeting? [3:12:57, 3:13:04]: Anyway, all right. We got it we got a consensus. We're going with the exec session. Miss Holiday, you'll be able to give us a send everybody a link before the Zeckly session, please. [3:13:06, 3:13:07]: We'll do. [3:13:07, 3:13:11]: Thank you very much. Appreciate it. I'll see you all within ten minutes. So hopefully we'll get it done ten minutes here. Thank you. [3:13:24, 3:13:25]: Okay. [3:13:29, 3:13:31]: Try to get this together here. [3:15:52, 3:15:56]: All right. Uh we have uh we actually have our quorum right now. We got uh [3:15:57, 3:16:08]: And Miss Barber, Alexander, myself, and Thomas. Um, okay, so uh we're gonna get start back started. Uh we may not have our attorneys, they [3:16:08, 3:16:16]: They had some other tasking, so they may not pop up back in. Um, so anyway, we're gonna move on with this and um [3:16:17, 3:16:18]: So we'll talk about old business. [3:16:19, 3:16:39]: And uh old business is council consideration to approve the test order number 21 with TSW Incorporated, City of Stockbridge Parks Master Plan in amount of$385,400. Uh funding sources spLOS. And uh this will be conducted or given by Mr. Aaron and Heather Heather Hubble. Please. [3:16:39, 3:16:39]: Please. [3:16:40, 3:16:46]: Thank you, Mr. Mayor and Council. Uh several months ago during a council meeting, uh staff presented a [3:16:47, 3:16:52]: A task order from TSW to develop a parts master plan and [3:16:52, 3:16:55]: Council wanted some other items addressed in that. [3:16:55, 3:16:57]: Master plan so [3:16:57, 3:17:06]: TSW has gone back and made some revisions to the plan, to the task order. Okay, Mr. Aaron, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Please forgive me. I forgot. [3:17:06, 3:17:07]: [11827.4, 11830.6]: I need a motion to enter to end the second session. I'm sorry. [3:17:11, 3:17:13]: Is there a second? [3:17:15, 3:17:17]: Miss Barber Seconds that all in favor, please indicate. [3:17:18, 3:17:26]: Okay, I need a motion to reconvene our our our council work session. So so moved. Ms. Gantt, I'll give a second. [3:17:27, 3:17:29]: Ms. Barber seconds that all in favor, please indicate. [3:17:30, 3:17:50]: Hi. Thank you. And we have nothing to report from the executive session at this time. Now, Mr. Aaron, I'm sorry about that. Go ahead, please. Yes, sir. Uh TSW has gone back and addressed the items that came up during the previous presentation. So I'll let Mr. Brian Baze present that along with Heather Hubb Hubble. [3:17:51, 3:17:52]: I thank you. [3:17:55, 3:17:57]: Thank you. Good evening, Mayor and Council. [3:17:57, 3:17:59]: Um [3:18:00, 3:18:13]: Uh I don't remember exactly when. Uh I don't remember exactly when we last talked about this, but just quick, quick uh background. Uh we originally brought a task order that was just focused on a few small. [3:18:13, 3:18:21]: Selected design projects within uh the three parks: Clark Park, Remote Park, and Gardner Park. [3:18:21, 3:18:24]: Um and during that discussion. [3:18:25, 3:18:37]: Uh I think I think the group kind of agreed that there needed to be a little bit broader look at some of the issues uh with regard to uh park programming, uh trail access and connectivity. [3:18:38, 3:18:40]: uh and potential um [3:18:41, 3:18:44]: Opportunities for new parks and a park system plan. [3:18:45, 3:18:48]: Which is a much more comprehensive look. [3:18:48, 3:18:57]: at your park system with public input and uh guided by uh park uh system plan steering committee so [3:18:58, 3:19:03]: Um and I think one of the kind of key things, uh one of the key takeaways from that. [3:19:03, 3:19:05]: As well was that uh [3:19:06, 3:19:15]: Everybody still wanted the the priorities uh or uh they wanted to acknowledge the priorities uh of the outcome of that system plan needed. [3:19:16, 3:19:24]: To to focus on specifically Memorial Park because there's some kind of significant issues there uh with regard to access through. [3:19:25, 3:19:26]: Anybody so [3:19:27, 3:19:38]: Uh we and I I I think it's a great idea. So we went back and uh took another pass at our task order to uh both include the park system plan. [3:19:38, 3:19:47]: Uh, information in there and everything else we thought we needed to get you uh through the park system plan and into. [3:19:48, 3:19:58]: uh or or to a point in design of those three parks like we originally had talked about where uh this group or the steering committee could assess [3:19:58, 3:20:10]: the plans, the cost of the plans and make good decisions about which pieces to move forward with and you know which pieces to to maybe save for later down the road. So [3:20:10, 3:20:14]: The task order that uh we have in front of you is a three part task order. [3:20:15, 3:20:32]: Uh the first part uh really focuses on providing uh getting topographic and uh land surveys for Mr. Bays, excuse me for a second. Is that something you're gonna show on your screen, sir? Oh yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah, we we don't see it on your screen, sir. Uh let me s let me see here. [3:20:37, 3:20:39]: Let me zoom in too. [3:20:40, 3:20:41]: There we go. [3:20:46, 3:20:51]: We've been showing a lot of pretty documents on the screen, but this is not one of'em. A lot of a lot of words here. [3:20:52, 3:20:52]: Um [3:20:53, 3:20:56]: Okay, so let me let me just start from the top. [3:20:56, 3:21:16]: Uh so so to get this work done, we have a a team of a few different consultants. Uh of course, TSW leaded our planning and landscape architecture group. Architecture will have a role in assessing uh some of the existing structures uh and also helping with any programming of future programming needs. [3:21:16, 3:21:18]: Needs of future structures. [3:21:19, 3:21:35]: Um we are uh bringing a civil engineer uh to help with the planning work that we've worked with on this type of project uh a number of times, Park Master Planning, uh Volkert Engineering. Uh they're actually here in uh downtown Atlanta. [3:21:35, 3:21:36]: K D E [3:21:36, 3:21:45]: uh is a a company that does cost estimating. They did cost estimating on the amphitheater. They're working with uh Heather as well. [3:21:45, 3:21:49]: on the art center and other various projects in town. So they're very familiar with [3:21:50, 3:21:56]: Um uh the lay of the land from uh a construction cost standpoint in Stockbridge. [3:21:56, 3:21:59]: And then we've also included a company called RMPK funding. [3:22:00, 3:22:00]: Uh [3:22:01, 3:22:13]: uh on the team that uh can look at the proposed improvements and come up with a grant funding strategy uh for the for the park system plan. [3:22:13, 3:22:26]: That uh you know you can stack with some other funding that you might already have. Uh so a lot of times the grants require matching. Uh, you know, for instance, you might be able to use some SPLOSS funds to cover the matching and actually leverage that to [3:22:26, 3:22:30]: To use to have more funding to build a park uh [3:22:30, 3:22:32]: Park element. So [3:22:33, 3:22:33]: Um [3:22:35, 3:22:50]: So that's kind of how the team is stacking up right now. And as I mentioned, it's a three-part uh proposal. The first part really deals with uh getting topographic and site surveys for the three existing parks. [3:22:50, 3:22:53]: Uh Garner Park, uh Memorial Park and Clark. [3:22:53, 3:22:57]: And um and then also [3:22:58, 3:23:08]: Uh doing some as built drawings for some of the existing buildings and building assessments for some of the existing uh structures uh that we toured with uh. [3:23:08, 3:23:11]: With the public works uh folks uh [3:23:11, 3:23:15]: It's been a few months back now, but uh in and [3:23:15, 3:23:16]: And looked at those. So [3:23:17, 3:23:18]: Uh that's part A. [3:23:19, 3:23:27]: And I'm gonna just flip to the back. There's actually the I don't know if they put this in your packet, but there's actually a some cost summary at the back end. [3:23:28, 3:23:29]: of this task proposal. [3:23:30, 3:23:31]: Um [3:23:31, 3:23:32]: Uh [3:23:32, 3:23:38]: And it has a breakdown of the cost of each of these uh parts separately. [3:23:39, 3:23:39]: So [3:23:40, 3:23:42]: Part B is actually the park system plan. [3:23:43, 3:23:46]: Uh that's where we go out and assess all the parks. Uh [3:23:46, 3:23:51]: Uh we uh put together a public engagement strategy. [3:23:51, 3:23:55]: Uh uh, we look at opportunities, we do a lot of groundwork. Uh [3:23:56, 3:23:59]: Uh you know, just looking at the parks. Um [3:24:00, 3:24:02]: And um [3:24:02, 3:24:06]: And then uh we combine our findings with [3:24:06, 3:24:08]: The public engagement strategy. [3:24:09, 3:24:24]: to essentially generate a list of needs based on public input and also based on guidance from staff and uh the steering committee. And the steering committee, uh, you know, once we get into this, uh, one of the first things we're gonna do is obviously meet with [3:24:25, 3:24:33]: uh meet with the city and uh decide who needs to be on the steering committee. So they so so we have a group that's kind of helping us. [3:24:33, 3:24:36]: uh guide things along the way. There are a lot of different ways you can do that. [3:24:37, 3:24:42]: Um and we can talk about that more, I guess, uh once we get the the process started. [3:24:44, 3:24:47]: Um we talking about base mapping. [3:24:47, 3:24:52]: Uh, I'm not gonna flip through this uh in an extreme amount of detail. [3:24:52, 3:24:53]: Um [3:24:54, 3:25:04]: But I am gonna kind of fast forward to a piece of this. Uh so so you know, we'll talk to the public, we'll get input, we'll bring ideas to the public, uh [3:25:05, 3:25:16]: uh and get feedback on some planning ideas. So we've already discussed some ideas in the previous meeting, uh, you know, about potential new entrances, about location for access. [3:25:16, 3:25:20]: For new trails, we'll do a level of service analysis. [3:25:21, 3:25:22]: Uh for the parks. [3:25:22, 3:25:24]: Uh that uh [3:25:24, 3:25:29]: that actually compares what people has have expressed or what the community has expressed. [3:25:30, 3:25:35]: as needs uh and compare them to what you actually have in your park so we could see [3:25:35, 3:25:36]: Where there are deficits. [3:25:38, 3:25:40]: And then we'll actually um [3:25:41, 3:25:43]: Prepare park master plans for [3:25:43, 3:25:47]: Uh definitely each of the three parks we already know those are focus areas. [3:25:48, 3:25:57]: Uh we will uh study any trail connections, uh make recommendations for trail connectivity or extensions of existing trails. [3:25:57, 3:26:01]: That need to happen and then also um [3:26:01, 3:26:14]: Uh depending on what what we find in our level of service analysis, make recommendations for new parks if we feel like there uh is a deficit of parks or there are areas of the community that are underserved. [3:26:15, 3:26:34]: Um, it's a very comprehensive look. We're not just gonna look at your city parks, we're gonna look at just open space that's available for people to use. Uh it can be private open space, uh, it can be open space associated with schools, maybe athletic facilities. It really is uh a [3:26:34, 3:26:36]: Comprehensive look at [3:26:36, 3:26:49]: access to recreation uh and parks uh uh land in your community to make sure that that everybody has uh an equal or equitable level of service. [3:26:51, 3:26:56]: Um and then I guess the last piece, you know, once we go through the process, everybody agrees. Uh [3:26:56, 3:27:00]: on the the plans and the programming for the plans. [3:27:00, 3:27:20]: Is identifying priorities and identifying funding opportunities. I already talked a little bit about RPK funding and how they're gonna help us with that. I think once you know we have a list of you know we've got a 10-year uh horizon here that we're looking at and we can prioritize the entire plan. [3:27:20, 3:27:20]: And [3:27:20, 3:27:24]: In ten years we can prioritize whatever. [3:27:24, 3:27:25]: Uh [3:27:25, 3:27:35]: I guess whichever parts of the plan you want to focus on in ten years. And then RP R and PK will take those and put together a comprehensive funding plan to help you. [3:27:35, 3:27:38]: uh have a roadmap for um [3:27:38, 3:27:40]: pursuing grant opportunities for that. [3:27:42, 3:27:46]: Um and I I'll be glad to share an example of that. Uh if if anybody [3:27:46, 3:27:51]: Like to see that we've worked on that capacity for a number of years. So [3:27:52, 3:27:55]: So that's part B. That's the park system plan. [3:27:55, 3:28:05]: Um and you know, it's a complicated process. It takes a few months to get through, but it should yield a really detailed kind of roadmap of how [3:28:05, 3:28:06]: Uh [3:28:06, 3:28:12]: You know, we realize the park system that Stockbridge, uh both both the city and [3:28:12, 3:28:17]: um staff and the c citizens uh need and want for their community. [3:28:18, 3:28:19]: So the third part. [3:28:20, 3:28:26]: of this uh really uh is a is a adaptation of the original scope that we talked about. [3:28:27, 3:28:31]: Uh before we decided to add the park system plan and that is [3:28:31, 3:28:32]: Um [3:28:32, 3:28:39]: Schematic designs for the priority area park plans. And and what we're saying the priority areas are. [3:28:39, 3:28:42]: Ар Клак, Меморіал Ангарна паркс ен. [3:28:43, 3:28:44]: Uh [3:28:45, 3:28:49]: We will you guys have seen a ton of schematic designs. We're gonna take the site plans. [3:28:49, 3:29:00]: to a point where you know you can see what the parks would look like if we apply the programming, hardscape, shelters, uh other park elements, open space. [3:29:00, 3:29:02]: parking access roadways [3:29:02, 3:29:08]: trail heads, trail locations, that type of stuff within the park. And then we're gonna put um [3:29:09, 3:29:11]: We're gonna put real numbers with those. [3:29:11, 3:29:22]: Uh I think for schematic design, um maybe I I have the uh pricing plan listed as an option and I don't uh I'll have to look at the um [3:29:23, 3:29:28]: I'll have to look at at whether or not that's included in the cost, but we do definitely have budgetary pricing. [3:29:28, 3:29:33]: with the master plan, uh the the comprehensive master plan portion of it. [3:29:33, 3:29:41]: Um, so that it will help guide you guys uh or this group and making decisions, good financial decisions about. [3:29:41, 3:29:43]: uh park improvements um [3:29:46, 3:29:55]: I do have task three as an optional cost estimate and that should say task four uh for perspective running. So when we get there, if the if you want. [3:29:55, 3:29:57]: You know, if you want more kind of developed [3:29:58, 3:30:03]: uh imagery, uh we can do that and we can also um do a deep dive into costs. [3:30:04, 3:30:05]: costing if we want. [3:30:06, 3:30:12]: So a lot of a lot of talk about scheduling on these projects. Uh I did a quick uh breakdown of of what the schedule looks like. [3:30:12, 3:30:14]: The survey takes about six weeks. [3:30:15, 3:30:16]: Uh on a good day right now. [3:30:17, 3:30:23]: Uh all the surveyors are backed up. I think that uh last I checked with a survey and I talked with them probably every couple of weeks. [3:30:24, 3:30:27]: uh about about project work um [3:30:27, 3:30:30]: I think he said he's about six to eight weeks out. [3:30:30, 3:30:39]: Um that could run that so the survey work could run concurrent with uh the kickoff of part B. [3:30:39, 3:30:52]: Which is the park system plan. So while he's gathering his base mapping, we can do our field work and we can assess the buildings and do all the other things we need to do so that task A and B kind of come together. [3:30:53, 3:30:59]: down here um in task uh two, three, and four when we actually need that survey data. [3:31:00, 3:31:02]: Uh and you can see that uh [3:31:02, 3:31:05]: You know, if you look at the the breakdown of this. [3:31:05, 3:31:11]: Um the timing on this. It's it's not something that's gonna happen in a couple weeks. You know, perk system plan. [3:31:12, 3:31:14]: А і за процес да [3:31:14, 3:31:15]: Um [3:31:15, 3:31:25]: is somewhat cyclical. We go to the public, we get input, we go back, we do work, we come back to the public for input and to the steering committee for input. And we kind of [3:31:26, 3:31:30]: uh refine our ideas as we get that input. So [3:31:30, 3:31:35]: You know, all in, uh it's probably about six to nine months for the park system plan. [3:31:36, 3:31:40]: Uh, to get to the point where we can do schematic designs. [3:31:40, 3:31:45]: And then the schematic designs take about eighteen to twenty four weeks. So it's probably [3:31:46, 3:31:52]: A year, uh a year and three months before we get to the end of schematic design. [3:31:52, 3:31:54]: Uh for those three parks. [3:31:56, 3:31:58]: In round numbers. And then here [3:31:59, 3:32:01]: Here's the way the cost breaks down. [3:32:01, 3:32:06]: Part A is fifty-eight thousand dollars. That's the surveying survey and building assessment. [3:32:06, 3:32:08]: The park system plan. [3:32:08, 3:32:14]: Uh it's one hundred and forty seven thousand dollars. Uh that's that's just for the um [3:32:14, 3:32:16]: Асесмент [3:32:17, 3:32:18]: uh public input. [3:32:18, 3:32:21]: Uh, the park master plans and then the funding priorities. [3:32:22, 3:32:26]: And then the schematic design piece is$180,000. [3:32:27, 3:32:28]: Uh and again, that's for three. [3:32:29, 3:32:33]: That's for three complete parks. I think before we were looking at just areas within the park. [3:32:34, 3:32:35]: Uh, but we've expanded that. [3:32:36, 3:32:40]: uh to to the complete park area based on [3:32:41, 3:32:44]: The feedback that we get from [3:32:44, 3:32:45]: Uh [3:32:46, 3:32:50]: from the prioritization uh after the park system plan. [3:32:51, 3:32:54]: And then uh the optional tasks I mentioned before. [3:32:55, 3:33:01]: Uh schematic design cost estimates twenty-six thousand dollars. That's for that's for ADE to cost. [3:33:01, 3:33:03]: All three of the full park. [3:33:03, 3:33:06]: uh plant schematic park designs. [3:33:06, 3:33:10]: Um and then if you want renderings with that, um [3:33:10, 3:33:13]: You know, there's what that's gonna cost, twelve thousand five hundred dollars. [3:33:13, 3:33:17]: Um andisha's uh remind me. [3:33:17, 3:33:18]: Um [3:33:18, 3:33:22]: Because for some reason I don't have this all totaled up because we weren't really sure. [3:33:23, 3:33:24]: Um [3:33:24, 3:33:32]: how how this would get kind of parsed out. Does the does the number that you um have on the [3:33:32, 3:33:36]: Uh tonight include both of these optional tasks or not? Do you remember? [3:33:36, 3:33:38]: I can add them up real quick to you. [3:33:40, 3:33:46]: What's in the l what's in the actual agenda says three hundred and eighty five thousand four hundred dollars is what it says. [3:33:46, 3:33:50]: Which is part A, B, and C. Okay. So if I'm [3:33:51, 3:33:51]: Pose one A. [3:33:53, 3:33:53]: Yes. [3:33:54, 3:33:56]: So does not include those optional tasks, but I think [3:33:57, 3:33:59]: I don't even honestly [3:33:59, 3:34:07]: I don't even know if we need to even think about these optional tasks until we get done with part C and we can even understand. [3:34:08, 3:34:11]: the totality of what we're talking about, um [3:34:11, 3:34:17]: Because we don't really know what those the system plan is gonna yield at this point, because there's a lot of work to be done. [3:34:17, 3:34:18]: So [3:34:18, 3:34:25]: I kinda rushed I kind of rushed through that a little bit, um, but I I did want to open it up for questions now. [3:34:26, 3:34:32]: Well I appreciate your comprehensive briefing there, sir. Sure. Okay, so uh Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [3:34:33, 3:34:35]: Wanted to ask if you could please forward [3:34:36, 3:34:38]: that presentation to the mayor and council. [3:34:39, 3:34:40]: Absolutely, yeah. [3:34:40, 3:34:42]: Thank you. And my second question is. [3:34:42, 3:34:43]: We can [3:34:44, 3:34:45]: I think we still have a [3:34:46, 3:34:48]: Agreement with Paz Foundation. [3:34:48, 3:34:51]: Um that we entered into last year. [3:34:51, 3:34:55]: Have you all worked with Path Foundation at all? [3:34:56, 3:35:04]: We have, yes. Um uh we did some belt line work with them and I mean they do a lot of work all over town, so [3:35:04, 3:35:10]: Uh pretty much any any trail that that we're involved in, they're involved in some manner. [3:35:10, 3:35:16]: I've also done some work up in Gwinnett County and then we uh and uh over at the Gwinnette Place Mall. [3:35:16, 3:35:22]: Uh and we have an on-call contract with Gwennick County, so we've worked with them in that capacity as well. [3:35:23, 3:35:24]: Okay. Um [3:35:25, 3:35:26]: So [3:35:28, 3:35:31]: Would there be an issue to substitute um [3:35:32, 3:35:41]: I guess the entity that you're using for grant opportunities, is it the RB R R and P K? [3:35:41, 3:35:45]: Yes, are you able to substitute them with Pat Foundation? [3:35:45, 3:35:51]: Um, well the Path Foundation is really specifically focused on trail uh development and maintenance. [3:35:52, 3:35:55]: Okay. RPK will look at [3:35:56, 3:36:00]: All the elements of the park, uh including storm water. [3:36:00, 3:36:02]: uh stuff. [3:36:02, 3:36:07]: And so they have a much more kind a much broader kind of view of the grant possibilities. [3:36:07, 3:36:11]: I would think Path would be a stakeholder potentially for sure. [3:36:11, 3:36:18]: And this discussion because of their um because they develop uh paths or they develop trails. [3:36:18, 3:36:18]: Yeah. [3:36:19, 3:36:20]: Okay, thank you. [3:36:22, 3:36:38]: Yeah, questions for Mr. Bays. Mayor Mayor Pro Tem. Okay, I'm sorry. Uh let Councilman Thomas go. Council Thomas, go ahead, sir. Councilman Thomas. Oh, okay. Uh thank you. Um Mr. Bays, I appreciate the the presentation. I I read through it a couple of times. [3:36:38, 3:36:41]: And as I mentioned um in our last meeting. [3:36:42, 3:36:45]: I have a great concern for Memorial Park because I think [3:36:46, 3:36:51]: Memori out of out of the three park, I think memorial is going to be [3:36:51, 3:36:56]: Uh that part with the highest level of um difficulties. [3:36:57, 3:36:58]: And I sort of marked up. [3:36:59, 3:37:06]: uh the steering committees, uh the input from the community. And I'm real concerned and want to make sure that [3:37:07, 3:37:09]: Um that that is thorough. [3:37:09, 3:37:10]: As far as um [3:37:11, 3:37:15]: You know, actually getting that input uh from [3:37:15, 3:37:19]: The community that surrounds um Memorial Park. [3:37:19, 3:37:21]: And and you know [3:37:21, 3:37:24]: And I know you have it in this in the in the document, but [3:37:25, 3:37:27]: My concern for memory is the [3:37:28, 3:37:31]: parking and the access in. [3:37:31, 3:37:45]: Yeah. As I stated earlier, I I think Momurray is going to be that part with the highest degree of difficulty to to to accomplish. So I won't sort of bog you down with this now, but. [3:37:45, 3:37:46]: Um [3:37:47, 3:37:48]: Depart. [3:37:49, 3:37:51]: А пар Б. [3:37:51, 3:37:54]: Mm-hmm. The park system plan [3:37:54, 3:37:58]: Um, and I know you talked about identifying and documenting [3:37:58, 3:38:02]: Cedar leader city leadership goals and the [3:38:02, 3:38:04]: uh public engagement strategy. [3:38:05, 3:38:09]: So I just want to make sure and I'd like to be a part of that. [3:38:09, 3:38:14]: Uh if if not for all of the park, but uh for for for sure a memorial. [3:38:15, 3:38:26]: Uh because uh there are some some great needs there. It's a beautiful park, and everyone on this council know that uh it lacks uh uh accessibility and parking. [3:38:27, 3:38:41]: And so uh I'm looking forward to go through this process. I heard you mention the timelines and and I understand that and and even the financing, but I just wanted sort of just reiterate those because those are my concerns. [3:38:41, 3:39:01]: uh for memorial park. And so when we get to that point, uh and Mr. Arid knows as he and I have talked over years about uh you know these these very same issues. So I I'm I'm I'm um I'm excited about uh you know we moving forward with this and I think the citizens in that area [3:39:01, 3:39:07]: will be as well. So uh I will be patient enough to wait till we sort of get to that point. [3:39:07, 3:39:10]: But I look forward to uh engaging. [3:39:10, 3:39:16]: along with uh community folks um in all of the park but specifically memorial park. [3:39:18, 3:39:22]: And let me just add, and and it's not in this scope. [3:39:23, 3:39:32]: uh but during the my engagement with community folks, uh that is a concern for a park um [3:39:33, 3:39:44]: on the south side of the city. Again, it's not in this scope. And I know when we start talking about these things, I know you know we have to identify funding sources. [3:39:44, 3:39:54]: But I just want to sort of put that on everyone's radar that we have to at some point in time look at how can we provide uh some type of uh park. [3:39:55, 3:39:58]: uh on the south side uh of the city [3:39:58, 3:40:12]: And so Mayor, I'll yield back for now with that, but I look forward and how we go forward. And I hope that there is some movement ongoingly with this project. [3:40:14, 3:40:16]: No problem, sir. Thank you. Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. [3:40:16, 3:40:17]: Yeah, thank you. Um [3:40:18, 3:40:32]: I appreciate the thorough assessment and um you know you guys do fine work and I expect for you to uh be able to come up with something just bold for Memorial Park for the new entrance that we're looking for. [3:40:33, 3:40:35]: Uh that will add uh the connectivity. [3:40:36, 3:40:40]: Thank the thank the Lord. We got the T Sploss Pass. [3:40:40, 3:40:43]: And Rock Quarry Road is gonna have a ten foot path. [3:40:43, 3:40:45]: And a major road running right down through there. [3:40:46, 3:40:48]: Our objective is to connect to it. [3:40:48, 3:40:51]: That's the task right there is to connect to it. [3:40:51, 3:40:53]: And the connectivity. [3:40:53, 3:40:56]: Uh working with the PAF Foundation through this. [3:40:56, 3:40:59]: It's a perfect synergy because we got the two top notch. [3:41:00, 3:41:02]: Entities working on this plan for us. [3:41:03, 3:41:04]: When the funding just [3:41:04, 3:41:06]: hit us all at one time. So [3:41:06, 3:41:08]: We certainly do appreciate that. [3:41:09, 3:41:14]: And I think that was a component of this that was going to be forward thinking. Is that not? [3:41:15, 3:41:20]: Is that not correct in terms of possibly identifying uh other park future park areas? [3:41:20, 3:41:26]: Well yeah, I I was gonna respond to that. Um, so as part of the system plan portion. [3:41:27, 3:41:47]: Yes. Uh if there's a need for for more parkland, you know, there's a couple ways we'll identify it. We're gonna do an we'll do just an analysis like uh based on based on um some kind of standards, but I mean also based on community input. So kind of our final assessment is gonna be the intersection. [3:41:47, 3:41:56]: of both of those things, um, including input from the steering committee. So I'm already hearing it now. So I'm guessing that one of the [3:41:56, 3:42:00]: I'm guessing that probably one of the outcomes of the study. [3:42:00, 3:42:02]: Will be [3:42:02, 3:42:04]: You know, potentially a location for a new park. [3:42:05, 3:42:09]: And that will be prior, you know, the design or the further. [3:42:10, 3:42:15]: uh development of that will will be in one of the priorities uh somewhere. So [3:42:15, 3:42:17]: Yeah, it's definitely part of part B for sure. [3:42:18, 3:42:24]: And and and then now I want to take that next level. And the mayor's talked about it and we talked about it. [3:42:25, 3:42:26]: As part of the connectivity [3:42:27, 3:42:28]: In the parts. [3:42:28, 3:42:29]: In the trail system. [3:42:30, 3:42:33]: And now we're engaged with Norfolk Southern. We need a tunnel. [3:42:34, 3:42:38]: Up under uh the Norfolk Southern line connecting [3:42:38, 3:42:39]: Clark Park. [3:42:40, 3:42:41]: to Gardner Park. [3:42:42, 3:42:46]: Uh in that area and now's the time because we got Norfolk Southern's ear. [3:42:47, 3:42:47]: To kind of [3:42:48, 3:43:08]: Get some conversation going with you all in the Pair Foundation. You have been involved in these intricate processes, but that's the that's the one connection that would make pull everything together if you could connect Clark Park to Gardner Park via that tunnel. And I was over there just the other day. [3:43:08, 3:43:11]: Day there's a viaduct stormwater viaduct running through there. [3:43:12, 3:43:15]: under the tracks already. So there is some [3:43:15, 3:43:19]: Uh there there somebody did a storm water up underneath that area, so [3:43:19, 3:43:31]: they were uh conducive to debt at some point. So we just need to make sure that we get them at the table to be able to uh move this forward. But all of this is the connectivity. [3:43:31, 3:43:37]: to pull everything together that we're working for so somebody could come to downtown. [3:43:37, 3:43:49]: park their car, their electric vehicle, charge it, get on the trail and fru move throughout the city without ever uh getting on getting back in the vehicle again. [3:43:49, 3:43:54]: Those are the high level things that we're talking about. And I know that you guys will hit a home run on that. [3:43:58, 3:44:00]: Outstanding concept. [3:44:01, 3:44:06]: Need look need look at doing that. Exactly right. Any other comments from Mr. Bays? [3:44:08, 3:44:20]: All right, so on this motion, I I I guess we need a motion here to accept this proposal um for him to go forward with this. Is there a mo so move? So move. Okay, is there a second? [3:44:21, 3:44:25]: Miss Barber second Miss Barber saw her hand for a second. Any further discussion? [3:44:26, 3:44:27]: All in favor, please indicate. [3:44:28, 3:44:28]: Uh [3:44:28, 3:44:37]: Okay. All right. Seems like that's a unanimous decision. I appreciate it. Thank you, Mr. Bays. We appreciate your presentation. Thank you very much. Thank you, everybody. I appreciate it. [3:44:38, 3:44:39]: Okay. [3:44:39, 3:44:48]: We now go into our public hearing. This is a budget hearing for our second reading. Um this is proposed FY 2022 operating budget. Mr. Wiggins, please. [3:44:54, 3:44:58]: Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Council. I'm gonna share my screen real quick. [3:44:58, 3:44:59]: Okay. [3:45:08, 3:45:09]: Did everybody see that? [3:45:09, 3:45:10]: Oh, we can't, sir. [3:45:11, 3:45:18]: Make make a little lar there okay, that's that's probably good. That's good. Okay. Let's see how that [3:45:20, 3:45:30]: All right, this is a um City of Stockbridge proposed FY 2022 budget hearing, second reading for November 30th, 2022. [3:45:34, 3:45:49]: The budget has um in the general fund eighteen million two hundred and eighty one thousand three level. One one second, John. Could you make it just a little smaller? Because it's really off the screen now too. It's a little way too big. This if you make a little smaller, maybe just a little bit. [3:45:51, 3:45:55]: That's that's that's better. That's better. Okay, sorry about that. [3:45:57, 3:46:16]: Enterprise fund is at twenty-four million nine hundred eleven thousand seven hundred eighty-five dollars and thirty-nine cents. The total um for the FY22 budget is forty-three million one hundred and ninety-three thousand ninety-six dollars and fifty-nine cents. [3:46:18, 3:46:18]: Okay. [3:46:19, 3:46:25]: Changes from the first um budget reading on November eighth, twenty twenty one. [3:46:26, 3:46:27]: We have [3:46:28, 3:46:29]: General Fawn. [3:46:29, 3:46:36]: Changed from 17.4 million to 18.2 million. That was an eight hundred some thousand dollar increase. [3:46:37, 3:46:39]: Uh that was um [3:46:40, 3:46:41]: We change uh [3:46:42, 3:46:45]: New police department changed from two point six million. [3:46:46, 3:46:47]: So three point three million. [3:46:47, 3:46:50]: increased by seven hundred some thousand. [3:46:50, 3:46:53]: Public works department increased about a hundred thousand. [3:46:53, 3:46:55]: For the North Henry beautification project. [3:46:57, 3:47:01]: Enterprise funds state remained the same at twenty-four point nine million. [3:47:02, 3:47:08]: And this budget also includes all sixty-three new positions descriptions. [3:47:08, 3:47:09]: And organization chart. [3:47:11, 3:47:13]: Fifty eight police positions. [3:47:13, 3:47:15]: Three community development. [3:47:16, 3:47:19]: positions, one municipal court position and one HR position. [3:47:21, 3:47:21]: And that [3:47:23, 3:47:28]: includes a small summary of what's in the budget for the second reading. [3:47:30, 3:47:37]: So any in that note accounts or any questions or clarification from you at all in reference to this. Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [3:47:38, 3:47:49]: So I wanted to know because I actually emailed a few suggestions and forgive me, I'm still learning this process. [3:47:50, 3:47:53]: Providing my feedback on things that I'd like to see. [3:47:54, 3:47:55]: Um [3:47:55, 3:47:57]: How do I go about doing that? Because um [3:47:58, 3:48:00]: I believe the last reading. [3:48:00, 3:48:05]: uh councilman thomas actually read off his suggestions for the record. [3:48:05, 3:48:06]: Should I do the same? [3:48:07, 3:48:08]: Yeah, sure, sure. Go ahead. [3:48:09, 3:48:10]: Yeah, yes, you can. [3:48:12, 3:48:32]: Okay, um and a few of these I already emailed to the mayor and council. Um one is for the org chart. I know that there is a grants um specialist position of some sort, but it's reporting to the finance or treasurer. I'd like to move that position. [3:48:32, 3:48:35]: to report under the city manager. [3:48:36, 3:48:38]: Also, I wanted to add [3:48:38, 3:48:42]: A new grants position under police services. [3:48:44, 3:48:48]: Um you're trying to form two positions here. I mean you're trying to [3:48:49, 3:48:55]: Yes, one reporting to the city manager and one reporting to police services. [3:48:56, 3:49:00]: And you can remove the grants position under the treasurer. [3:49:02, 3:49:04]: Well when you when you um [3:49:05, 3:49:07]: When you're looking for a grants writer. [3:49:07, 3:49:08]: You know. [3:49:08, 3:49:13]: Uh I I think it should be more of a grants manager or grants accountant. [3:49:14, 3:49:15]: Because it's gonna be a lot of accounting. [3:49:16, 3:49:20]: That's gonna have to go along with just uh with the grants. [3:49:20, 3:49:22]: You know, writing grants you [3:49:22, 3:49:26]: Somebody's gonna have to administer the grant and somebody's gonna have to account for the grant. [3:49:27, 3:49:31]: And that means when I mean accounting, you're gonna have to deal with the auditors. [3:49:32, 3:49:35]: Because you're gonna get audited for doing doing the grant. [3:49:35, 3:49:36]: You know, putting up the [3:49:37, 3:49:41]: The city manager m typically city manager doesn't really have [3:49:41, 3:49:43]: That particular position up on the [3:49:44, 3:49:47]: That department uses in um [3:49:48, 3:49:56]: It has its own grants, administration department, or it stays within the administration or finance. But [3:49:58, 3:50:06]: This is this is this is this is a um you know this is for the council. It's just my perspective on that particular position. [3:50:09, 3:50:09]: Well okay. What [3:50:10, 3:50:20]: I would think that the that uh if the grant writer is initially with the the treasurer, I don't see why it wouldn't need to move. We just need to be f maybe fulfill the requirement. [3:50:21, 3:50:27]: But I kinda wonder whether or not whether you move it or not, why would you need two? Because I think that individual will be fully occupied. [3:50:28, 3:50:38]: working for general grant information across the board under the treasure as well as for the police department. I I don't understand why we would need uh two individuals doing that across the board, tell you truth. [3:50:38, 3:50:43]: Well, because the the city has several, well, a lot of capital projects. [3:50:44, 3:50:45]: That we need [3:50:45, 3:50:48]: Individuals specifically dedicated [3:50:49, 3:50:50]: Four [3:50:50, 3:50:58]: City projects, and then an individual specifically dedicated for police service projects. [3:50:59, 3:51:11]: That was my thought process. Yeah. Make sure that we are capitalizing on these grant opportunities. Um, and I believe having one person designated to do that. [3:51:11, 3:51:14]: it won't be enough. It will be overwhelming. [3:51:14, 3:51:15]: For one person. [3:51:16, 3:51:18]: to be at the table. [3:51:19, 3:51:22]: trying to s look at all these opportun identify all these opportunities. [3:51:23, 3:51:25]: We really need to. [3:51:25, 3:51:29]: right now with the way um funding is coming from the federal and state level. [3:51:30, 3:51:37]: need to make sure that we're at the table and we're capitalizing on these opportunities. Again, these are just my suggestions. [3:51:38, 3:51:39]: That was number one. [3:51:40, 3:51:41]: Um number two. [3:51:41, 3:51:42]: Suggestion. [3:51:43, 3:51:56]: Um, I wanted to see us and I did consult with a couple of police departments. The municipal court or administration of courts are usually under police services. [3:51:56, 3:52:01]: I like to see us move that on the org chart under police services if we can. [3:52:03, 3:52:11]: What was that again? The um you said the municipal municipal court administration. Court administration. Yes. Mayor? Yes, ma'am. [3:52:12, 3:52:17]: Can I I have to object? Okay, let her go. I'm sorry. She wasn't finished. I'll wait. [3:52:18, 3:52:20]: Go ahead, uh Miss Barber. [3:52:21, 3:52:24]: Everyone except for the judge. [3:52:24, 3:52:29]: All the other employees of the courts would report to police services. [3:52:31, 3:52:32]: That's the second suggestion. [3:52:33, 3:52:34]: The third suggestion. [3:52:34, 3:52:36]: Із то мove конфорсне. [3:52:36, 3:52:38]: Under police services as well. [3:52:42, 3:52:49]: My fourth suggestion is to reduce and I'm trying to see for public works technicians. [3:52:49, 3:52:52]: Um Mr. Wiggins, was it eight? [3:52:53, 3:52:55]: Positions or is it eleven? [3:52:56, 3:53:01]: For public works. Yes. Public works already already had eight positions. [3:53:02, 3:53:03]: Um that [3:53:04, 3:53:06]: I think Dish has been trying to feel [3:53:06, 3:53:11]: um that they feel and then they might drop out, somebody might quit. [3:53:11, 3:53:12]: Um [3:53:12, 3:53:14]: These is our eight positions. [3:53:15, 3:53:18]: Okay, so it is already been in the been that's been in the budget. [3:53:18, 3:53:20]: Okay, I'd like to reduce that from eight to two. [3:53:21, 3:53:21]: Mm-hmm. [3:53:22, 3:53:22]: No. [3:53:22, 3:53:24]: Yes. Um [3:53:25, 3:53:26]: Okay. And number five. [3:53:28, 3:53:35]: Um the amphitheater operations, when I looked at the um budget. [3:53:36, 3:53:38]: Several of the line items are blank. [3:53:39, 3:53:40]: Such as lighting. [3:53:41, 3:53:43]: So nothing is no projected. [3:53:43, 3:53:47]: cost or expense is there. So I'd like to see all of [3:53:47, 3:53:51]: Um some type of projection in each of those line items. [3:53:52, 3:53:53]: Um [3:53:53, 3:53:54]: We can we can do that. [3:53:55, 3:53:57]: Okay. And number six. [3:53:58, 3:54:10]: Um, can you tell me if there are line items for the renovations for Ted Strickland, Merlmanders, and down uh downstairs of City Hall? I wasn't able to find that. [3:54:12, 3:54:14]: Is that in the budget for 2022? [3:54:14, 3:54:16]: Renovation for downstairs city hall. [3:54:17, 3:54:18]: Yes. Now what [3:54:20, 3:54:22]: That that that no, that's not in the budget. [3:54:23, 3:54:24]: We didn't put the [3:54:24, 3:54:29]: That wasn't put in the budget because um it was voted out last time. [3:54:30, 3:54:33]: So then didn't know if that needed to go back in there. [3:54:33, 3:54:45]: Yes, I'd like to include um the renovations to downtown downstairs of city halls. The renovation to the Ted Strickland, is that included in the 2022 budget? [3:54:46, 3:54:48]: It's in the capital CIP. [3:54:48, 3:54:49]: Okay. [3:54:50, 3:54:54]: And the Merr Manders Center that's in the budget as well. [3:54:55, 3:54:55]: Yeah. [3:54:58, 3:54:59]: Mm-hmm. [3:54:59, 3:55:00]: Far as um [3:55:01, 3:55:03]: construction. I don't I don't know how much that would be. [3:55:05, 3:55:06]: Do not have a total cost of [3:55:07, 3:55:09]: How much the renovation [3:55:09, 3:55:11]: is gonna be to be put into the budget. [3:55:11, 3:55:19]: Okay, so Mr. Aaron and I believe um Mr Canuel was supposed to bring back a quote. So [3:55:20, 3:55:21]: Please follow up with them. [3:55:22, 3:55:26]: So that's the sixth item. The seventh is um [3:55:27, 3:55:35]: I wanted us to take a closer look at the salaries that was submitted for the municipal court judge and the solicitor. [3:55:36, 3:55:49]: Um, I believe the salary for 2022 that was submitted for the judge was$65,000 a year. And for the solicitor, it was for$55,000 or might have been$50,000. [3:55:50, 3:55:52]: Um. [3:55:52, 3:55:53]: I'm sorry. [3:55:53, 3:55:54]: No, you're correct. [3:55:54, 3:55:56]: Okay. However [3:55:56, 3:55:56]: Um [3:55:57, 3:56:03]: There won't be an increase to their workload until the police department is up and running in July. [3:56:05, 3:56:06]: So to pay them a or [3:56:07, 3:56:10]: To have in the budget for a the full salary. [3:56:10, 3:56:12]: I don't think that would be [3:56:12, 3:56:13]: Accurate. [3:56:13, 3:56:16]: I emailed um my calculations. [3:56:17, 3:56:18]: for the first half of the year. [3:56:19, 3:56:20]: If we can [3:56:21, 3:56:29]: Project what they've been making in 2021 for the first half and then the second half, then divide that by. [3:56:29, 3:56:33]: I don't know. Um, six, seven months. [3:56:33, 3:56:34]: Mm-hmm. [3:56:35, 3:56:45]: divide salary of sixty five thousand dollars by seven months and that should get you a cost that you can put in for the budget for those two positions. [3:56:45, 3:56:48]: Yeah, before the judge the judge had a set cost on [3:56:49, 3:56:54]: Whenever he went to trial, he just had a set cost of what he got paid. It it wasn't our actual salary. [3:56:55, 3:56:57]: It was just a set set cost, but [3:56:57, 3:56:59]: Issue of salary was trying to be implemented. [3:57:00, 3:57:05]: Right, and we shouldn't include the full salary because they won't be fully functional. [3:57:06, 3:57:08]: Until July when the [3:57:08, 3:57:12]: police department is rolled out. That's correct. That's my bottle. [3:57:14, 3:57:22]: Okay, and include that's for the municipal court judge and the solicitor and the deputy court clerk. So those three positions. [3:57:23, 3:57:26]: might want to give an average. Um number eight. [3:57:27, 3:57:29]: Wait, you know the deputy clerk. [3:57:30, 3:57:32]: It's basically already there, I think. [3:57:33, 3:57:35]: Their position is already already there. [3:57:37, 3:57:38]: Is it [3:57:40, 3:57:41]: No, I don't think it's I don't think [3:57:42, 3:57:42]: No. [3:57:43, 3:57:44]: But the applicator, yeah, because [3:57:46, 3:57:49]: Not clear. Not I can okay. I have to take a look at it. [3:57:49, 3:57:54]: Well looking at this the original budget that I have, it shows it's vacant, but okay. [3:57:54, 3:58:14]: Number eight, I wanted us to take a closer look, perhaps and look the personnel policy to state that staff members must be employed for one full year before they are eligible for cost of living increases, bonuses, and merit increases. In fact, I'd like for us to freeze bonuses for 2022. [3:58:17, 3:58:18]: Your number [3:58:19, 3:58:20]: No. [3:58:21, 3:58:24]: Oh, these are just questions that I had. [3:58:24, 3:58:26]: That's all. That's all I had. [3:58:28, 3:58:48]: Okay, then these are recommendations. So otherwise these are your recommendations. Obviously, before we make movement on any of this or come to some type of change in or anything, there's have to be some type of consensus across the board in reference to these recommendations andor something that makes good logical sense, I would imagine. [3:58:48, 3:58:49]: Yeah. [3:58:50, 3:58:50]: Yes, sir. [3:58:51, 3:58:52]: Okay. [3:58:52, 3:58:57]: So what I so m excuse, I'm sorry, Mayor. I think what what needs to happen is um [3:58:59, 3:59:03]: In the mayor's correct, all the recommendations need to be [3:59:03, 3:59:07]: Uh um decided on because we only have one more budget hearing. [3:59:08, 3:59:10]: to uh vote on the budget and [3:59:11, 3:59:13]: I'm gonna need a list of what [3:59:13, 3:59:14]: Everybody [3:59:15, 3:59:18]: has discussed and what everybody has has agreed on. [3:59:19, 3:59:22]: to uh move forward and putting everything in the budget. [3:59:23, 3:59:35]: And I would say that the justification of of why uh why this all should happen in this aspect, real justification of this and clever and to some discussion about this. Cause you're talking about some some uh [3:59:35, 3:59:37]: Some um big moves here. [3:59:37, 3:59:57]: You you know, you're talking about the police department, which the chief is right here. I mean, you ever d talk of him further about some of these things about code enforcement and and about uh the actual court uh courthouse itself, things of that nature, the court operations. He needs to buy in on that and find out what what is uh what his opinion thoughts are. I don't know and I don't know if they [3:59:57, 3:59:58]: George. [3:59:58, 4:00:05]: I did speak with the chief and I spoke with the community development director and they both seemed to be okay with it. [4:00:06, 4:00:07]: Chief trailer. [4:00:07, 4:00:14]: Is he all wrong? Yeah, he is, but wait, stand by a second. Stand by a second. But see, all these things, these recommendations in reference to [4:00:14, 4:00:34]: uh well the amphitheater and and uh and recommendations for what uh guess the some uh recommendations to renovate Ted Strickland the Merrill Manner's conference I believe uh took down there. Um and then you're talking about uh the salaries and now the salaries you know I I think it's probably a session discussion when you talk about [4:00:34, 4:00:44]: salaries for for uh employees in this aspect. I think that's probably something that probably needs to go exactly session before we we actually have open discussion with the public on this, I would think. [4:00:44, 4:00:48]: And I know our attorneys aren't with us right now, but that's what I kind of assume. [4:00:48, 4:00:50]: Yeah. Yes, ma'am. [4:00:50, 4:00:56]: I whenever you finish, I I just have a couple of statements about what we're doing right now for this budget. [4:00:56, 4:01:16]: Right, I got it. And then uh then the personnel policy issues as as well. Uh you have to have some real thought in that and and reference that. And I know Ms. Muela is not online right now and in this aspect as well. But um I mean this is some real thought that with uh and discussion that has to occur uh with the council across the board and with [4:01:16, 4:01:21]: the staff primary staff interviews that affects these the particular recommendations here that you're mentioning. [4:01:22, 4:01:26]: Um on that note, um the go ahead, Miss Gantt. [4:01:27, 4:01:29]: Thank you, Mayor. Um [4:01:29, 4:01:30]: I was [4:01:30, 4:01:35]: Again, I ask if everybody, Ms. uh Councilman Thomas, Councilman Barber. [4:01:36, 4:01:44]: Miffer, Tim, Alexander, any of us, if we have some changes or concerns, if we can all put them on email so we can really actually do the research on it. [4:01:45, 4:01:51]: Um, I am in total objection to the police department b the the court being [4:01:52, 4:01:56]: direct response to the police department, I believe that is a conflict of interest. [4:01:57, 4:02:17]: Um, as a previous solicitor for the city of Stockbridge and looking at just an example, the city of Duluth, the city of Suwannee, looking at their organizational charts, not one, the courts and the police are separate entities, and they're separate entities for a reason. Um, in fact, most courts. [4:02:17, 4:02:37]: administrations are under the judge, even the clerks that are although they're full-time, they are under the judge. Um and let's let me give an example. Even mayor and council, although we are part-time, we um you know have the directors and everyone to report to us. Another concern I have is um [4:02:37, 4:02:43]: um possible charter uh overlooking the charter by [4:02:43, 4:02:47]: Of course, if we ask a director or anyone [4:02:47, 4:02:54]: Whether or not they're okay with us doing specific things instead of going through the city manager. [4:02:54, 4:02:56]: Ri right now, which is you, Mayor. [4:02:56, 4:03:05]: Um, I don't think that it is appropriate for any council member to discuss or to um [4:03:05, 4:03:08]: go one on one with any employee. [4:03:09, 4:03:29]: Directors included, asking if this is okay if I change your your job description or add these things under there. I think there should be some type of protocol in place. And I think that we should follow the charter in regards to that. I do have some concerns about that. Um, and I also think that [4:03:29, 4:03:30]: When it comes to [4:03:31, 4:03:32]: Police services. [4:03:33, 4:03:48]: our chief uh i understand i can understand code enforcement that makes sense i mean uh they're they're enforcing laws such as the our police officers but when you come when you're dealing with the co the court [4:03:48, 4:03:54]: Everyone is just um not gonna be just ready on day one. They have to have some prep time. [4:03:55, 4:03:58]: We had four hundred hearings a day. [4:03:58, 4:04:18]: in court you don't have court every single day and it was broken up into a m hours and p.m hours there were three clerks one clerk which was anita i um i forgot her last name gunno and then you had pam and you had another and i believe we had um there were two there were three clerks [4:04:19, 4:04:24]: uh two assistants and one main clerk. And then you had your detective. [4:04:24, 4:04:34]: And the police services that you read about in other organizational charts that deal with court services, they're talking about security and bailiffs. [4:04:34, 4:04:38]: I just pulled up the city of Duluth right now. None of them. [4:04:39, 4:04:51]: The courts, the judges report, they're the main person that reports over to the city manager in regards to the courts. Police services are in charge of the um [4:04:52, 4:04:54]: the the security [4:04:55, 4:05:02]: services of the court, but to file look let's say a police uh writes a ticket, speeding ticket. [4:05:02, 4:05:08]: When you when a solicitor calls them up for trial, you're telling me that the person running the courtroom. [4:05:09, 4:05:19]: The police is in char the chief is in charge of not only th in charge of the people who are running the courtroom as well as [4:05:20, 4:05:27]: Who also report to a judge as well as they have someone on the witness stand. [4:05:28, 4:05:41]: I mean it that's a big conflict there. And I would um ask everyone to go and look at all types of org charts and and and see that I think that's a line that we just really don't want to cross. [4:05:42, 4:05:51]: Um, and so I I want us to take into consideration all of the suggestions that are made. I have some myself. [4:05:51, 4:05:52]: Um including [4:05:53, 4:05:55]: Um from admin. [4:05:55, 4:06:12]: And and and also looking at and reviewing job descriptions. But I think that we would be here all night trying to go down those lists. So we need to do it. I guess I guess we need to send out emails to everybody on the changes that we wish to make and at some point have a discussion on it. [4:06:15, 4:06:29]: All right, thank you for that. Any other comments thus far in reference to uh the budget for the second reading convention? I'm gonna have to hear shortly, I'm gonna have to open up to the public. I don't know if we have any public comments or not, but I have to at least have to open it up. [4:06:29, 4:06:30]: Sure. [4:06:30, 4:06:32]: I have one could go ahead and [4:06:32, 4:06:52]: Yeah, go ahead, Ms. Darren. I'm sorry. Go ahead. I was just wondering what was the reasoning behind reducing the staffing for public works. We fought hard last year to get those positions because everything is increasing. And the only reason we didn't feel those positions, because now with COVID,$13 an hour, a lot of people got a lot more options now. [4:06:52, 4:06:54]: than they had before. [4:06:54, 4:07:03]: And if you reduce that number from eight to two, it's really gonna hurt the department because you already stretched thin in the areas that you're working in. [4:07:03, 4:07:08]: And that was that's my only concern because something is gonna go lacking because you won't have the resources. [4:07:13, 4:07:14]: Is that a question for me? [4:07:15, 4:07:19]: Yeah, I would say so since I am that was my concern. [4:07:19, 4:07:26]: Okay. So the reason being is and I know that thirteen dollars an hour is um a bit [4:07:27, 4:07:29]: Challenging to get someone. [4:07:29, 4:07:32]: To come on board with that. I was hoping that. [4:07:33, 4:07:34]: Perhaps Dan. [4:07:34, 4:07:38]: would look at other ways to increase the salary. [4:07:38, 4:07:40]: So would be more attractive. [4:07:41, 4:07:41]: To people. [4:07:42, 4:07:43]: Um [4:07:43, 4:07:46]: It didn't happen. Those positions went unfilled. [4:07:47, 4:07:49]: Not only that, we're contracting out. [4:07:49, 4:07:52]: A lot of services from public works. [4:07:53, 4:07:54]: Landscaping. [4:07:54, 4:07:55]: Free training. [4:07:56, 4:07:57]: Um right of way maintenance. [4:07:58, 4:08:03]: So I figured since we're already contracting out a lot of those services. [4:08:03, 4:08:04]: Um [4:08:05, 4:08:07]: We've been getting by. [4:08:07, 4:08:10]: Pretty good this year with the staff that we have. [4:08:10, 4:08:12]: Um but of course these are just [4:08:13, 4:08:14]: Сугінсь фмі. [4:08:15, 4:08:19]: Um I'm the only one who um is making this suggestion. [4:08:19, 4:08:25]: And I welcome my councilmates to offer other solutions, but those positions remain. [4:08:26, 4:08:27]: And field. [4:08:28, 4:08:28]: So I figure [4:08:30, 4:08:33]: You all aren't aggressively looking to recruit for them. [4:08:33, 4:08:36]: So we shouldn't include them in the twenty twenty two budget. [4:08:37, 4:08:40]: Because they weren't feel this year. [4:08:41, 4:08:46]: I think how many people did you uh were you able to hire this year? [4:08:46, 4:09:01]: We got one person, but we had that conversation the other day. They say uh council made a decision that a starting pay would be thirteen dollars an hour. When you compete with Yeah, we made that decision. We certainly did. That's what [4:09:02, 4:09:06]: That's what the starting salary was, you know, and rem Miss Wheeler and I [4:09:07, 4:09:15]: Had a conversation the other day with the mayor about the starting salary was so low. That's why we haven't been able to fill those positions. But [4:09:15, 4:09:26]: The the thing is we've been working diligently, but everybody is facing that shortage. Trying to find personnel, trying to recruit recruit staff is it's just been difficult. [4:09:27, 4:09:47]: Uh Mayor Pro Tem, I guess you have your hand up. The the final thing I say is when you bring somebody in above 13 and they're competing with someone that's been here for five to ten plus years, then that's difficult for the person that has been here and improving themselves to the city and you're gonna bring somebody in near the amount they're making or equal to what they're making. [4:09:47, 4:09:50]: And it just causes issues within the department. [4:09:53, 4:09:55]: Yeah, I understand that. Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. [4:09:56, 4:09:57]: Very quickly. No [4:09:58, 4:09:59]: This is what we need to do. [4:10:00, 4:10:03]: In my estimation, which is one of the suggestions that I want. [4:10:03, 4:10:09]: I think first of all we should have a fifteen million fifteen dollar minimum wage across the board. [4:10:09, 4:10:29]: bringing everybody up to the competitive level of where we are right now. But that as Mr. Aaron said, it would be unfair so that measure requires an additional step to go out and then survey what uh other employees are making above$15 an hour because this is the budget time now. So [4:10:29, 4:10:31]: the people who have already been here. [4:10:31, 4:10:33]: Would have to get an increase also. [4:10:33, 4:10:37]: As I've gone around and I've talked to employee after employee. [4:10:37, 4:10:43]: After patting myself on the chest for getting a previous survey done, I was told [4:10:43, 4:10:50]: I didn't get I only got 10 cents. I only got five cents. It didn't reach us. So I think what she should we should do is test staff. [4:10:51, 4:10:52]: We're going out. [4:10:52, 4:10:55]: And doing another survey. [4:10:55, 4:10:58]: Inclusive of the entire metro Atlanta area. [4:10:59, 4:11:09]: to make sure the staff salaries are competitive. And we understand that corporations out there now,$15 is the minimum. And if you want to get [4:11:09, 4:11:29]: Decent employees,$15 needs to be the minimum because otherwise the positions are never going to be filled. That is what is going on out there. It's it's very competitive, but in the end, you get what you pay for. And again, this is just my recommendation. And Ms. Barber made her recommend. [4:11:29, 4:11:48]: Recommendations, we will all do that and discuss that. But this is how I would solve the problem bringing everybody up to a competitive wage because as leaders here, we have one task. That is when somebody clocks in to work for the city of Stockbridge, they should be able to take care of their family. [4:11:49, 4:11:52]: And when rents are seventeen to eighteen hundred dollars a month. [4:11:53, 4:11:54]: Out there. [4:11:54, 4:12:00]: making ten or eleven dollars an hour does not even get you a place to stay in our area. [4:12:00, 4:12:05]: So we need to deal with that and to make sure that our employees make a living wage. [4:12:07, 4:12:09]: Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. [4:12:09, 4:12:10]: Uh [4:12:12, 4:12:18]: What what I I what I think we're all overlooking, and I know we've sort of been through [4:12:18, 4:12:19]: Um [4:12:19, 4:12:22]: Буджет цикл збифо. [4:12:23, 4:12:28]: But I I I think we saw the just missing, you know, the the the processes here. [4:12:28, 4:12:30]: Uh in the budget. [4:12:30, 4:12:34]: When we approve the budget, and I'm looking down at my notes. [4:12:34, 4:12:35]: Uh the [4:12:35, 4:12:38]: pay class schedule [4:12:38, 4:12:44]: Uh and and we're if we're looking at uh the position of a public works technician. [4:12:45, 4:12:47]: This is where we [4:12:47, 4:12:51]: If we want to ig if we want to increase that to fifteen dollars. [4:12:51, 4:12:53]: This is where we do that. [4:12:54, 4:12:56]: i in a motion form and and it's voted on. [4:12:57, 4:12:58]: Let me just say that number one. [4:12:59, 4:12:59]: Um [4:13:00, 4:13:06]: Uh it's been a long night. Now I've gone through the budget like I do every year and I have [4:13:07, 4:13:08]: Um [4:13:08, 4:13:15]: Sort of detected at least a uh one a million five in savings. [4:13:15, 4:13:16]: That I have seen. [4:13:17, 4:13:21]: I'm not gonna try to present that, but I will put that out to the full council. [4:13:21, 4:13:28]: uh in various uh line items. But what I'd like to do, Mayor, I'd like to set up a meeting with you. [4:13:29, 4:13:32]: And all of the uh department heads. [4:13:33, 4:13:34]: to discuss [4:13:35, 4:13:36]: Um [4:13:36, 4:13:39]: Well what I see as as saving for the city. [4:13:40, 4:13:45]: And I'd like to get a better understanding from department heads because they are the ones that have [4:13:46, 4:13:55]: Created these wish lists, and I want to I I just need a better explanation why uh some of the budget line items have have increased. [4:13:55, 4:13:58]: And but again for for everyone on the council. [4:13:59, 4:14:16]: It's a process that we have to go through and we have to go through the budget. We have to look at line items. And if we have recommendation or suggestion, this is where we make those uh recommendations. And things have to go into a motion. [4:14:16, 4:14:29]: uh for the council to approve. I understand we we're just talking and I think you know suggestions are rightfully so. But at this last um budget hearing, [4:14:29, 4:14:45]: All of these things will have to be put into a motion. We have to go into the budget. We have to look at the line items. We have to look at the departments and see where we want to make these changes. And I say that because the [4:14:45, 4:14:49]: Um managers well the department heads. [4:14:49, 4:14:51]: have presented [4:14:51, 4:14:52]: A budget. [4:14:53, 4:14:55]: It is up to this council. [4:14:55, 4:14:57]: Whether we approve [4:14:58, 4:15:00]: This budget the way it is now. [4:15:01, 4:15:02]: So now [4:15:02, 4:15:03]: The the [4:15:04, 4:15:06]: Directors have suggested [4:15:07, 4:15:07]: What [4:15:08, 4:15:09]: They desire. [4:15:09, 4:15:12]: It is up to us now to say [4:15:12, 4:15:20]: Well, yay or nay, or this is what we recommend, and we make those changes accordingly. [4:15:20, 4:15:37]: Uh but before I close just on that and and mayor, I will get with you again. I will put this out to you. I would like to meet with you, Mayor, and all of the um department heads and any other council members uh that wants to meet with me. And I was gonna ask the attorneys. [4:15:37, 4:15:41]: Um it would this be more of informational? [4:15:42, 4:15:47]: As opposed to any kind of legislation. And I think that we can meet [4:15:47, 4:15:50]: to discuss just for information because [4:15:51, 4:16:07]: What I need is is reasoning why uh some of these line items have increased. And this is what I need in order for me to be able to vote yay or nay on the proposed budget. And let's remember it is a proposed. [4:16:07, 4:16:08]: Betty. [4:16:08, 4:16:12]: And it is up to council, it is our responsibility. [4:16:12, 4:16:13]: To approve the [4:16:14, 4:16:27]: or to amend or to make changes based on what uh the directors have suggested that they won't. And this but it's uh it's uh up it is up to us again. But let me uh go back to Mr. Wiggins. [4:16:27, 4:16:37]: Uh and I know my name was referencing some things that I I mentioned at the last meeting, but Mr. Mr. Wigan, I want you to understand that a motion [4:16:37, 4:16:39]: was made. [4:16:39, 4:16:42]: It was second and it it was approved. [4:16:42, 4:16:46]: As far as a job description of a new [4:16:47, 4:16:51]: Let me underline the word it was a new position in HR. [4:16:51, 4:16:55]: So I'm saying this, uh Mr. Wigan, I want to make sure that that [4:16:55, 4:17:02]: Is coming forward and it should have been highlighted uh in this second reading. [4:17:02, 4:17:22]: Again, it was legislated properly. The motion was made and it was second and it was approved. So I'm not sure if it's there, Mr. Wigan, but um that was legally that HR position is still there. I'm Mr. Wigan, repeat the HR position is still there, it hasn't gone anywhere. [4:17:22, 4:17:26]: No, I didn't say the position. I I I mentioned the qualification. [4:17:26, 4:17:27]: For the position. [4:17:28, 4:17:36]: That that that change should be there. And I read that out. Uh it's in the minutes. You can refer back to the city clerk. [4:17:36, 4:17:39]: Not the position, but the qualifications. [4:17:40, 4:17:41]: For that position. [4:17:42, 4:17:45]: And so that should have come forward. [4:17:45, 4:17:49]: Uh with that and I think that was the only [4:17:50, 4:18:00]: That was the now I I know you you read some changes from the first reading to to this reading, but that should also be in the [4:18:00, 4:18:06]: Second reason because uh reading, because that was legislated. So that should be there, number one. [4:18:06, 4:18:11]: Uh but again if I remember right, uh I I think when I uh read [4:18:11, 4:18:14]: A description for that HR position. [4:18:15, 4:18:18]: That was sent out this last time. I thought I saw [4:18:19, 4:18:20]: Ten years on there. [4:18:22, 4:18:29]: that that was the that was the new job script uh madam clerk can you can you read that do you have that handy [4:18:30, 4:18:37]: The motion that was made and and were proved for the qualification. Oh, I understand the motion. I don't have a problem with the motion. [4:18:38, 4:18:41]: I'm saying I guess I guess what I don't know. [4:18:41, 4:18:46]: You didn't you didn't indicate and it and it may be there, but I'm just saying [4:18:46, 4:18:56]: that should be that should be in from the first reading because it had a a a qualification to the second reading. [4:18:56, 4:19:07]: And so that was approved. So that should continue to go forward all the way to the third reading. And it may be that I don't know. You didn't mention that. So I don't know if it was there or not. Oh, I understand. You you you want me to. [4:19:08, 4:19:13]: actually highlight I guess I'm asking you a question did that legislation move forward? [4:19:14, 4:19:20]: Yeah, I remember seeing the description that said 10 years on the HR position. [4:19:20, 4:19:37]: Am I am I right, Vanessa? You're correct. Um I think I just want to make I just want to make sure and I guess and I guess this is I guess I'm saying this to all my counselmates is that this is the way that these things have to come forward. I know we're just talking suggestions now. [4:19:38, 4:19:43]: But we have to put all of these things in some kind of a of of of a motion. [4:19:43, 4:19:44]: And it has to be [4:19:45, 4:19:54]: Uh second it has to be voted on. So what I would recommend to all of us with all of our suggestion, and I have more, trust me, I have more. [4:19:54, 4:19:56]: But we have to take the budget. [4:19:56, 4:20:02]: The way it is, and we have to inject in the budget format. [4:20:03, 4:20:04]: The changes [4:20:05, 4:20:07]: That we want to see. [4:20:07, 4:20:09]: And we have to sort of spell it out. [4:20:10, 4:20:15]: where motions are made. Now it could be it could be into it could be total. [4:20:16, 4:20:36]: That the motion is made to approve the budget the way it is, or we can go through the line items and make those recommendations and make those motions to be included. And so, but the final product is that we're voting on a total final product, not piece by piece by piece. [4:20:36, 4:20:46]: But you have to put those pieces in. So that's why I'm saying that I want the opportunity to meet with the mayor and the department head because. [4:20:46, 4:20:51]: What the uh directors have proposed. [4:20:51, 4:21:11]: I'm not totally uh in agreement with that because I need to know the reason why a director has proposed an increase in a line item. See, the line item could be it could be travel, it could be training, it could be uh hospitality, it could be anything, but I'm just saying. [4:21:11, 4:21:15]: You have to take these lines that way. [4:21:15, 4:21:16]: Two, two. [4:21:16, 4:21:21]: uh agree or disagree or to vote in favor not uh or if you going to [4:21:21, 4:21:28]: uh make some modifications along those line items. So am I I mean am I talking the same language, uh Mr. Wiggins? [4:21:30, 4:21:33]: No you you that's if if if uh [4:21:33, 4:21:41]: Individually, counselor, if you councilman, if you uh you know, you're making a suggestion, you're right. If you if something needs to be [4:21:42, 4:21:43]: Hard coded into the budget. [4:21:44, 4:21:46]: You have to uh make a motion and vote for it. [4:21:47, 4:21:48]: And using [4:21:48, 4:21:51]: Usually with the suggestion you go through and you [4:21:52, 4:21:55]: You compile I compile all the suggestions. [4:21:55, 4:21:57]: Put'em in the budget, see how it works. [4:21:57, 4:21:59]: And then once you take another look at it. [4:22:00, 4:22:05]: And then that's when you in totality, you have you know, the council votes for it. But [4:22:06, 4:22:07]: Like like now, um [4:22:09, 4:22:09]: Uh [4:22:09, 4:22:14]: Everything all the all of the uh suggestions and anything that you [4:22:14, 4:22:20]: you want to see or you want to discuss it all needs to go to the mayor who's who's a uh acting city manager. [4:22:20, 4:22:24]: And then he'll get what get what um myself and all of the um [4:22:25, 4:22:29]: directors and start seeing and making the change, you know. [4:22:30, 4:22:39]: Well Mayor Mr. Mr. Wiggins. Hand by a second. Go ahead, go ahead. Go ahead and stop. Let me give you an example, and I'm just gonna use this. [4:22:39, 4:22:50]: Uh and I guess I'm I'm I'm speaking to I know uh Councilwoman Barber said she was new, but I guess I'm speaking to to everyone here. I'm just taking this as an example of one of the [4:22:50, 4:22:57]: uh department that I looked at uh under uh community development, uh planning and zoning. [4:22:57, 4:23:01]: Now say a a certain amount was proposed. [4:23:02, 4:23:04]: It was proposed. [4:23:04, 4:23:10]: I may disagree with what was proposed and I may have an alternative. [4:23:10, 4:23:11]: Uh proposal. [4:23:12, 4:23:19]: And so I will indicate that, but I go through the whole budget and I look at every department. [4:23:19, 4:23:25]: I look at every line item, but what's important is I look at what is being proposed. [4:23:26, 4:23:45]: And so if I agree with that, then everything is okay. But if I don't agree with it, then I'm gonna come with something that I know that that I can live with. And again, if we if we go back and look at all of the um project updates that we had tonight, and we're looking at [4:23:46, 4:23:50]: uh cost, cost, cost, cost, cost. Now a lot of these projects. [4:23:51, 4:23:56]: have a designated funding source, that is well and good. [4:23:56, 4:24:11]: But a lot of these projects do not. So are we gonna have to tap into uh uh uh fund balance to to to finance some of these things? And so I'm um I'm I'm talking sort of long-winded just to get us to understand is that. [4:24:11, 4:24:30]: We have to look at the total picture of operating this city, whether it's the police department, whether it's uh community development, whether it's in uh public works, uh code enforcement. We have to look at all of these line items, but we have to look at what is being proposed. [4:24:30, 4:24:36]: And I could go through, and I've gone through, and like I say, I see uh a million dollar saving. [4:24:37, 4:24:57]: Only because we just got to cut back some. See, I'm not one, I'm not, I'm not Santa Claus. I'm not willing to give folks um uh uh uh just a blind eye to a wish list. And I would recommend to the council that we have to tighten the belt up a little bit. I think we can survive and I think we [4:24:57, 4:25:00]: can still operate without um [4:25:00, 4:25:20]: increasing the budget in certain areas. Some areas of the budget, it does need that. But just because it's a wish list and but just because it is proposed, that doesn't mean that these department heads are going to get that. And I think we have to scrutinize the budget. And I think this is the way that we have to operate. And [4:25:20, 4:25:32]: But again, I understand the fact that we have funding sources that's going to uh alleviate some of the um you know finances coming out of fund balance, which is great, which is good. [4:25:32, 4:25:37]: But I just think we as a council, I think we need to do our due diligence. [4:25:38, 4:25:46]: Go through the budget, look at every department, look at every line item, and see what is being proposed. And you look at that versus. [4:25:47, 4:25:55]: What was proposed last year and the year before that, and the year before that. See, and I'll say this in a lot of in some of these line items. [4:25:55, 4:26:02]: There are monies that are being proposed that over the last three years, the money has never been used. [4:26:02, 4:26:05]: So why would you inflate the budget? [4:26:06, 4:26:15]: with with with with this proposal and the money is not being used, but you can redirect the those money to where it is needed. [4:26:15, 4:26:17]: You see what I'm saying? So [4:26:18, 4:26:19]: That that's who I am. [4:26:19, 4:26:23]: And that's how I look at the budget. And I'm just recommending that. [4:26:23, 4:26:32]: This is how we should look at the budget. So me, I'm I'm gonna cut short right there, but I will get with you, Mr. Mayor, and I will ask for a meeting with. [4:26:33, 4:26:44]: um directors and any council members that want to join. And I have a lot of questions to ask about line item. And and and and Mr. Aaron, just just for you. [4:26:44, 4:26:48]: Um I I one of my questions, I I want to know. [4:26:49, 4:26:49]: Um [4:26:50, 4:27:10]: The cutting zones uh for uh general maintenance. And I know we talked about this before. I want to know um the zones, how often do we cut, how many workers are in these zones, and and what if you want an additional eight folk? So, what are they going to do during the none? [4:27:10, 4:27:10]: And [4:27:11, 4:27:12]: Cut in season. [4:27:12, 4:27:32]: So these are just questions. I know you have answers for these, but I'm just saying I just need to ask the question and I just need to get your response to that. And then after that process, then it may still be okay. But these are questions that I want to ask, and hopefully that you can answer that for me. How many zones, how many uh right-of-way cutting zones do we have? [4:27:32, 4:27:40]: How many workers are in these zones, and how often during the grass cutting season, how often do we cut? [4:27:41, 4:27:45]: And then during the non-cutting season, what do they do? [4:27:46, 4:27:51]: And I think these are legitimate questions, but I have questions for every director. [4:27:52, 4:27:54]: Right. And because of Thanksgiving and [4:27:55, 4:28:13]: you know, campaigning. I just haven't had that opportunity to have this kind of dialogue with with all of the directors, but I do plan to do that before the thirteenth of December. Okay, we'll we'll set it up. We'll set everything up. Uh we'll work through the process, set it up, uh Councilman Thomas. Uh Ms. Gantt, go ahead. You have something to say. [4:28:13, 4:28:15]: I did. Um [4:28:15, 4:28:16]: Yeah. [4:28:16, 4:28:36]: I'm gonna be real short. I don't recall. I remember us having a discussion about the HR physician, and then 10 years' experience came, but I don't remember voting for that. I remember us discussing that. And then Ms. Wheeler made some statements about her concerns on that, based off the years of experience. And I don't [4:28:36, 4:28:45]: recall and I know that the position was already there listed. So I don't recall that. And I knew that was kind of slid in as an example, but for the record. [4:28:46, 4:28:54]: I don't recall us voting for a 10 years of experienced person based off of changing the job description to read as such. [4:28:55, 4:28:57]: Um and I'll go back and review the tape. [4:28:58, 4:29:18]: Um I I ask that other council members do the same. In regards to the budget and why the inflation, I do believe that we should look back at fair reasonable days pre-post, but not I mean post or pre-pandemic days. Right now, of course. [4:29:17, 4:29:21]: a lot of things the city hall wasn't open we just opened last week [4:29:22, 4:29:26]: for the public. So a lot of spending, a lot of things stopped. [4:29:26, 4:29:46]: um activities, you name it, for quite some time frame. So I think we need to really honestly take that into consideration. We also um lost our city manager. Uh you know, uh our city manager resigned during this time frame of the budget discussion. [4:29:46, 4:30:06]: And yes, we usually go line by line, but we also had a retreat and were able to do so. Um, so I think and Councilman Thomas, I I would love to sit in the meetings with you when you ask those questions because those are some very good questions. You make some very good points on some things. But I totally would like. [4:30:06, 4:30:26]: For us to consider some of the things that even Mayor Pro Tem Um Alexander made some great points in regards to a pay scale, which I hope that we were already there anyway. But I think that we really have to sit down. And again, all our suggestions should be through email. [4:30:26, 4:30:42]: email or however we're gonna do it and then iron out what should be the right way to go. When I speak, I don't speak saying that this is it. I speak saying, hey, we I know I need three votes to get something across. [4:30:42, 4:30:46]: sometimes it comes across as this is the way it's going to be done and that's that. [4:30:46, 4:31:06]: And I hope that we all make wise educated decisions and research and show, you know, we're not reinventing the wheel, but we also want to be considerate of what used to be, because hopefully the COVID numbers are going down and we can get back to normal and we're [4:31:06, 4:31:15]: Going to need to have things already in place and not be behind the curve ball, but be in front of it. [4:31:16, 4:31:25]: So that's my two cents. I just hope that we can move on from here. We've heard the budget hearing for tonight and it is 1134 and we got other items. [4:31:26, 4:31:28]: Thank you. It's eleven thirty. [4:31:28, 4:31:29]: Okay. [4:31:29, 4:31:34]: All right. Eleven thirty four PM. Okay. No problem. Mr. Thomas, you got something else, sir. [4:31:35, 4:31:47]: Finally, I I I just want to just say this and I'm gonna ask the city clerk if she would just um read that back into I'm not sure if everyone was present uh at that point in time. [4:31:47, 4:31:51]: Uh it did come forward. It was read, it was stated. [4:31:52, 4:31:56]: Um there were some conversation, but let me just say this though. [4:31:57, 4:31:57]: We had a vote. [4:31:58, 4:32:03]: We did. Let me just say this man. I'm gonna be real short with this. I know I spoke quite a while. [4:32:04, 4:32:05]: Um [4:32:06, 4:32:10]: When I was out and about doing this last campaign. [4:32:10, 4:32:16]: I heard a lot from citizens. And and I'll say this, and this has always been my position. [4:32:16, 4:32:17]: Um [4:32:19, 4:32:21]: Citizens demand [4:32:22, 4:32:24]: quite a bit from the elected body. [4:32:26, 4:32:29]: We cannot live on our past Laura, what we did and [4:32:30, 4:32:33]: Twenty nineteen, twenty eighteen, and twenty seventeen. [4:32:33, 4:32:36]: The bar always goes up. [4:32:37, 4:32:43]: And it has to trickle down. The accountability has to trickle down from the setting. It comes to us. [4:32:43, 4:32:45]: We had to pass it down to staff. [4:32:46, 4:32:49]: And that's just the nature of this kind of business that we're in. [4:32:49, 4:32:50]: For me [4:32:51, 4:32:51]: Um [4:32:52, 4:32:54]: We as an elected body. [4:32:54, 4:32:57]: Um, we high staff. [4:32:57, 4:33:07]: to come in and to move our goals and objectives forward. That is their role. We are the legislators, we are the policymakers. [4:33:08, 4:33:09]: That's what we do. [4:33:09, 4:33:15]: We have folks to come in to move those things forward. It's not the other way around. [4:33:16, 4:33:26]: You know, we we put the policies out there, we put the goals and objectives out there, and we have staff that can come and move those goals forward. [4:33:26, 4:33:37]: That's the nature of this municipality. This is the nature of that business. But Mrs. Um uh sit Madam Kirk, would you read, if you will, that legislation that was passed at the last budget hearing? [4:33:40, 4:33:43]: Okay, I was just pulling up the action. [4:33:43, 4:33:44]: Minutes. [4:33:45, 4:33:51]: If you don't have it available, we won't we won't I won't hold the meeting up because we just we still have quite a bit, but I'm just saying. [4:33:52, 4:33:53]: Um [4:33:54, 4:34:07]: And council, council know me. I I've been on the council almost 10 years. I've been the same way every year. This is what I do every year. I go through this budget and I come forward with the same thing every year. [4:34:08, 4:34:17]: All right. I'll tell you what, let me let me open it. Mayor, if you will allow her Okay, go ahead. Go ahead, please. Go ahead and read it. [4:34:18, 4:34:36]: So um Councilman Thomas amend he amended there was an original uh motion, but the one that passed was when he amended his motion and made a motion to amend the HR coordinator position with a minimum of 10 years of [4:34:37, 4:34:39]: Ten years of public safety. [4:34:39, 4:34:40]: Experience. [4:34:41, 4:34:43]: And all associated funding. [4:34:44, 4:34:49]: Noted, noting as Miss Wheeler and Chief Tramer spoke. [4:34:49, 4:34:52]: to the public safety acknowledged that they would [4:34:53, 4:34:54]: That would be needed. [4:34:55, 4:34:58]: And it was seconded by Councilwoman Barber. [4:34:58, 4:35:00]: The motion passed three one one. [4:35:01, 4:35:02]: Thank you. [4:35:02, 4:35:03]: Okay. [4:35:03, 4:35:23]: Right at this moment I'd like to just uh stop this discussion with the council and just open us up for the a public hearing because this is actually supposed to be a public hearing, right? So I'm gonna open up a public hearing for any uh anybody that is uh in favor uh of uh the current discussion or favor of the budget as as we have discussed and they as they know it is this point. [4:35:23, 4:35:43]: And so I would let last the Ms. Holiday if she knows of any anybody out there said that's indicating that they want to be in favor of this or is online and my public relations uh uh officer is online if these if there's anything good evening, Mayor. Yep. As as of now, Mayor Ford, there is no comment or feedback. [4:35:43, 4:35:46]: regarding this discussion on social media. [4:35:46, 4:35:56]: So let me okay, so let me just ask this other half of you. No, you told me let me anybody against the public hearing uh or any comments uh uh against this budget, I mean this public hearing aspect. [4:35:57, 4:36:03]: I said for now against. Uh so I've say that there's no one against you see no one out there for any comments of against. Is that correct? [4:36:07, 4:36:23]: Ms. Ford, yes. Um the comments we do have um some feedback, um, but the stance doesn't seem to be definitively for or against it's referencing stations that are needed, funding um, and things needed for the future. [4:36:23, 4:36:24]: Um [4:36:24, 4:36:26]: Elements of the amphitheater. [4:36:27, 4:36:28]: Okay. [4:36:28, 4:36:32]: That's on social media. So that may just be taken as some feedback as well. [4:36:32, 4:36:33]: Okay. All right. [4:36:34, 4:36:54]: All right. On that note, uh, I will close this public hearing at this time. All right, now it's closed. Uh before we move on, council, any other questions or concerns or thoughts before we move on to the next subject on this uh in reference to uh the budget. Now we will set up we'll set up some time frames uh uh and here shortly uh to have [4:36:54, 4:37:03]: this discussion with the directors, my involvement and some council involvement as well to have to go through this more thoroughly so we can be proper properly ready to go on the 13th of December. [4:37:04, 4:37:11]: All right. No other comments will be but May Mayor. I'm sorry. Sorry if I if if uh if if I could I spoke to um [4:37:12, 4:37:13]: Um [4:37:13, 4:37:15]: I've sent some information to council um [4:37:16, 4:37:22]: yesterday or day before yesterday regarding the uh police budget. And I know that we had um changed that amount from [4:37:22, 4:37:32]: believe it was originally set at two point six million dollars. Uh we moved it up to three point three million dollars and that was to cover um essentially seven months worth of salaries. [4:37:33, 4:37:39]: be able to onboard new folks from June until the end of the year. Uh one of the things that was not factored in. [4:37:39, 4:37:46]: was police services or continuation of police services rather from Henry County from January until July. [4:37:46, 4:37:58]: So we would need to add two hundred and eighty eight thousand dollars to police services budget to continue with the same level of service that we're receiving from Henry County between now and July one. And I've got [4:37:58, 4:38:08]: Uh the data on that, if you would like to see that, I can pull up on my screen a breakdown of uh what those funds are exactly, but we would need to amend the budget. [4:38:08, 4:38:15]: To add two hundred and eighty eight thousand dollars to the police services budget for Henry County Police Services from January until July. [4:38:15, 4:38:18]: You said you already sent that to us though? Is that right? [4:38:18, 4:38:23]: I I sent out a presentation uh yesterday, uh summary presentation. [4:38:24, 4:38:29]: Okay. But that's the same presentation you just opted to show us right now. Is that correct? [4:38:30, 4:38:31]: Yeah, would you like me to pull that up? [4:38:32, 4:38:35]: Mm sure, why not? Why not? I mean. [4:38:35, 4:38:36]: Oh yeah. [4:38:36, 4:38:38]: Let me pull this up here for you. [4:38:38, 4:38:44]: Um just so you can see everybody hopefully can see my screen here and I'll pull that this up. [4:38:44, 4:38:48]: So basically seven months of uh police salaries is [4:38:49, 4:38:50]: Um [4:38:51, 4:38:58]: You can see here at the bottom three point three seven two. We've uh earmarked three point three million dollars. This is just for [4:38:58, 4:39:11]: Stockbridge police departments for seven months worth of operating expenses. This is just for Stockbridge PD. This does not include Henry County. Uh if we continue with Henry County Police Services, this is what that's gonna look like. So from January to July. [4:39:12, 4:39:21]: These are the things that we've been paying for. So we pay uh two to three officers seven days a week for a park and business patrol detail. It'd be a hundred and thirteen thousand. [4:39:21, 4:39:26]: Our city hall detail, an officer Monday through Friday from eight to five is fifty four thousand. The amphitheater. [4:39:27, 4:39:33]: Uh estimating between now and start date, six events of fifteen officers is thirty-two thousand. The court detail. [4:39:33, 4:39:38]: Three officers record two to three days per month, ten thousand dollars. Special events. [4:39:38, 4:39:43]: Is there anything that comes up um uh through the events department? [4:39:43, 4:39:49]: Uh twelve thousand dollars and then the council detail, one officer two days per month for council is about three. [4:39:50, 4:39:53]: thousand dollars puts us at two hundred and twenty seven thousand dollars. [4:39:54, 4:40:02]: Uh if you look at the PD budget, 3.3 plus the 227 puts us a total budget need of 3.6. [4:40:02, 4:40:09]: We've earmarked three point three one one two nine six according to the most recent, which would put us at a deficit. [4:40:09, 4:40:15]: of two hundred eighty eight thousand nine hundred and eighty eight dollars to continue to provide that same level of service. [4:40:17, 4:40:18]: All right, thank you, sir, for that. [4:40:19, 4:40:29]: Okay, so obviously w the bottom line is we're gonna have to make an adjustment uh to your budget uh for twenty twenty two to make this thing work properly. Is what I gather. Is that correct? [4:40:31, 4:40:33]: Yes, sir, that's correct. Assuming that's uh wishes of the council. [4:40:34, 4:40:38]: So that was from January to June or January to July. [4:40:38, 4:40:49]: January to July. From June to July we'll be training our officers on our policies and procedures and operating protocols. So we won't be in a position to be able to assume those services from June to July. [4:40:51, 4:40:51]: All right. [4:40:52, 4:41:00]: All right, we're gonna move on to new business. Council consideration approved downtown Stockbridge 2021 strategic work plan. [4:41:00, 4:41:01]: Mr. Peterson, please. [4:41:05, 4:41:08]: Thank you, Mayor and Council. In um [4:41:08, 4:41:11]: June of this year, June of twenty twenty one. [4:41:12, 4:41:17]: The downtown development authority and Main Street had a droid strategic planning session. [4:41:17, 4:41:19]: And from that session. [4:41:19, 4:41:24]: Came a joint strategic plan that Main Street needed for. [4:41:25, 4:41:28]: their uh certification uh that they need every year. [4:41:28, 4:41:30]: And uh also um [4:41:31, 4:41:36]: It provided an opportunity for the D DA and Main Street to collaborate from my understanding. [4:41:36, 4:41:38]: That was the first time that this happened. [4:41:38, 4:41:43]: In the city of Stockbridge. Um a lot of transformation strategies came from that. [4:41:43, 4:41:45]: uh vision and a lot of [4:41:45, 4:41:51]: Important and uh tangible goals came from that. Uh additionally, four committees were formed. [4:41:52, 4:41:57]: We have the Downtown Connectivity and Design Committee that's head by Kira and Lisa. [4:41:57, 4:42:00]: We have the downtown beautification and activation committee. [4:42:01, 4:42:04]: Also head by Kieran Lisa, our main street staff. [4:42:04, 4:42:09]: Our tourism product development committee headed by Roger Custon, who's our [4:42:09, 4:42:11]: Downtown Development Authority Director. [4:42:11, 4:42:23]: and the downtown business recruitment and retention committee, uh head by me, the economic development department. Um, we would like for the city council to um [4:42:23, 4:42:37]: formally uh approve this plan just so we'll have you all's backing uh moving forward. And I know that we had a lot of council members uh come to that session this summer and we really, really appreciated that. [4:42:37, 4:42:39]: And we just would like you all's backing. [4:42:41, 4:42:46]: All right. So you want a mo motion to accept this uh this particular strategic plan. Is that correct, sir? [4:42:46, 4:42:47]: Yes, sir, Mayor. [4:42:48, 4:42:51]: Okay, council. Any questions and or motion? [4:42:58, 4:43:01]: Is there a motion or any concerns or questions? [4:43:04, 4:43:07]: Okay. Looks like no one's willing to make a motion at this time. [4:43:09, 4:43:11]: Mayor, if I may. Yes, sir. [4:43:12, 4:43:12]: Um [4:43:13, 4:43:18]: Doctor Peterson, I I think what you're saying, I don't think this is a [4:43:18, 4:43:21]: A denial of this, I think. [4:43:21, 4:43:25]: I think the lateness of the night, I'm not sure if everybody have [4:43:26, 4:43:29]: actually read this document and was familiar with it. [4:43:30, 4:43:31]: Um [4:43:31, 4:43:34]: I I would suggest rather than [4:43:34, 4:43:35]: Um [4:43:36, 4:43:38]: uh a a novel [4:43:38, 4:43:41]: Um I I want to sort of suggest [4:43:42, 4:43:46]: uh tabling it. I I would hate for it to have a a record of a no vote. [4:43:47, 4:43:49]: I just think that if you give counsel [4:43:50, 4:43:54]: a little bit more time and I don't know if council wanna admit that they have not [4:43:54, 4:43:58]: fully uh read the document or [4:43:59, 4:44:01]: Uh, had the opportunity to give you a call. [4:44:02, 4:44:04]: Uh to ask some questions. [4:44:05, 4:44:08]: Um and I I sort of think that's that's sort of [4:44:08, 4:44:09]: Where we are. [4:44:09, 4:44:12]: Um I did participate in the section. [4:44:13, 4:44:14]: Session. [4:44:14, 4:44:18]: And I'm a little familiar with the document, but I'm sort of thinking this is um [4:44:19, 4:44:23]: without anyone saying it, but I think this is what's what's started happening. [4:44:23, 4:44:24]: Um [4:44:25, 4:44:26]: Would you consider [4:44:27, 4:44:46]: uh bringing this back again uh is it is is it not pressing for to for you to approval tonight i i'd i definitely would like to bring it back again and have roger custom the dda director and kira and lisa on uh it's um almost 1145 [4:44:46, 4:44:50]: Uh so I I think they've they've got an on got an off. [4:44:50, 4:44:58]: But um, you know, it it was it was a a joint, it's the it is a joint effort. Uh the plan is ongoing, it's a joint effort between Main Street. [4:44:59, 4:45:13]: and DDA and and economic developments it would be good if if they would would be on as well. Because this it is an important document. I would have no problem in making the motion. I'm not sure if I get a second, but but rather than a second. [4:45:14, 4:45:15]: Sorry. [4:45:16, 4:45:20]: Okay, well um well if if that is the case then uh mayor [4:45:21, 4:45:26]: I I I move that we move forward and uh to accept this. [4:45:26, 4:45:29]: Uh strategic work plan presented by um [4:45:29, 4:45:31]: Uh, Doctor Peterson. [4:45:31, 4:45:32]: Sir a second. [4:45:33, 4:45:33]: Yeah, yeah. [4:45:34, 4:45:38]: Okay I'm Ms. Mayor I'll give Mayor Pro Tam here. Okay. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [4:45:39, 4:45:39]: Uh. [4:45:40, 4:45:43]: Okay, it passes unanimously. Great stuff. You got it. [4:45:44, 4:45:45]: Thank you, Council. [4:45:46, 4:45:52]: Council consideration approved fleet and equipment replacement policy. Mr. Aaron, please. [4:45:53, 4:45:59]: Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. During the last budget reading, uh Councilman Thomas requested that we [4:46:00, 4:46:08]: Uh submit a vehicle and equipment replacement policy. We have done that and submitted the mayor and council for review. [4:46:08, 4:46:13]: It addresses how the city would go about replacing vehicles and equipment. [4:46:14, 4:46:27]: We all know that one size does not fit all. Certain vehicles will go beyond this life expectancy or rating system, such as like the vehicle I have is eight years old, it has 44,000 miles on it. [4:46:28, 4:46:30]: So it'll probably go ten to fifteen years. [4:46:31, 4:46:35]: before it's being replaced, but this addresses how vehicles will be replaced. [4:46:36, 4:46:38]: But it does not include the police department. [4:46:39, 4:46:51]: Because I'm sure Chief has um mechanisms in place for how he will replace his vehicles, but this is for all of the city's vehicles and equipment outside of the police department. [4:46:52, 4:46:54]: I'll take it. Yes. [4:46:54, 4:46:55]: No. [4:46:55, 4:46:57]: Councillor, any question for Mr. Aaron at all? [4:46:58, 4:47:09]: So how would we um approach the police vehicles? Uh Chief Tramer, will you be putting together a separate policy for police vehicles? [4:47:15, 4:47:15]: Yeah, so ours. [4:47:16, 4:47:21]: just because of the nature of the uh the usage of the vehicle is probably gonna be a little bit different. I had the opportunity to look at [4:47:22, 4:47:25]: Mr. Aaron put together and I think it's certainly suitable for standard [4:47:26, 4:47:34]: uh city vehicles that are used regularly just in the course of business. However, police vehicles obviously, with those being emergency vehicles, at least emergency vehicles, [4:47:34, 4:47:37]: Uh, the life cycle's probably gonna be um [4:47:37, 4:47:38]: Uh a little shorter. [4:47:39, 4:47:47]: We would have somebody when we when within the organizational proposed organizational chart, we have we have a position to actually be managing our fleet. [4:47:47, 4:47:51]: So that individual be responsible for uh keeping up with that data. [4:47:51, 4:47:59]: in providing us with the uh requisite information we would need to make the informed decision and project future replacements for vehicles. [4:48:02, 4:48:02]: All right. [4:48:03, 4:48:06]: Uh on that note, uh any further questions for Mr. Aaron? [4:48:06, 4:48:09]: And if not any motion for accept the policy. [4:48:11, 4:48:13]: Is there a motion to accept a policy? [4:48:14, 4:48:18]: Mayor Ford, I make a motion to approve the fleet and equipment replacement policy. [4:48:19, 4:48:22]: Okay, thank you, Ms. Barber. Mr. Thomas seconds that motion. [4:48:22, 4:48:24]: Okay, all in favor, please indicate. [4:48:24, 4:48:25]: I [4:48:25, 4:48:28]: Okay, fantastic passes. Good stuff. [4:48:29, 4:48:46]: Thank you, Mr. Aaron. And uh Council consideration approved purchase of police vehicle emergency equipment, graphics, and associated upfitting costs for 60 police vehicles, an amount of$754,615.40. Funding source, ARPA. [4:48:47, 4:48:50]: Mr. Well excuse me, Chief Trammer, please. [4:49:10, 4:49:10]: See? [4:49:13, 4:49:14]: I guess I was on mute. [4:49:14, 4:49:16]: You're right. Okay. [4:49:16, 4:49:30]: So um I sent to everybody you should have received a copy of the quotes. This is just a summary of those quotes, but the quotes specifically outline uh all the equipment associated costs affiliated with the different vehicles that we've ordered. [4:49:30, 4:49:48]: Uh the 39 patrol vehicles that we have, the costs on those are gonna be more expensive because you have um obviously uh prisoner transport area, cage, um uh vehicle graphics, um, light bars, whereas the administrative vehicles don't have as much emergency uh equipment on those. So [4:49:48, 4:49:55]: Um for those 39 vehicles, we're looking at about sixteen thousand dollars per vehicle, uh total cost of six hundred thirty-three thousand. [4:49:55, 4:50:05]: $254 for the uh interceptor and the rest of these are essentially administrative vehicles. You can see the associated cost price per vehicle and the total cost. [4:50:05, 4:50:12]: And for those 60 vehicles, um puts us at 754,615.39. [4:50:13, 4:50:16]: Um we're seeking to um [4:50:16, 4:50:35]: Fund this through ARPA. It would be associated emergency equipment. We did have this vetted through our city attorneys and procurement. This is a piggyback off of the state contract through the Georgia Department of Public Safety. This was competitively bid recently. [4:50:36, 4:50:52]: and uh pro logistics uh who is the vendor that we're seeking to acquire this equipment from was awarded the uh state contract the Georgia Department of Public Safety contract for federal signal products which you uh can see here at the bottom of uh this highlighted section here [4:50:53, 4:50:58]: And Dana Safety Supply was for wheel in products, but we are gonna be uh putting federal signal. [4:50:58, 4:51:04]: um emergency lights and the sirens on our vehicle. So we're seeking to piggyback again off that contract. [4:51:04, 4:51:12]: Uh with the state. As I said, this is embedded already through procurement and our attorneys. So I'm seeking uh council's approval. [4:51:12, 4:51:16]: For the funding of this so that we can equip our uh police fleet fleet. [4:51:17, 4:51:18]: with the necessary emergency equipment. [4:51:20, 4:51:21]: Any questions? [4:51:24, 4:51:26]: If no questions and need a motion to accept this proposal. [4:51:27, 4:51:30]: No move. Okay, Mr. Alexander, thank you. Is there a second? [4:51:32, 4:51:34]: Ms. Barber seconds that. Uh any further discussion? [4:51:36, 4:51:37]: And if not, all in favor, please indicate. [4:51:40, 4:51:40]: Yeah. [4:51:41, 4:51:45]: Okay, Miss Kent. Okay, you you abstain? [4:51:45, 4:51:52]: Okay. I do. Okay. So um and uh Mr. Thomas, I didn't see see. Did you vote? I'm okay. I'm in favor. [4:51:52, 4:51:57]: Okay, thank you. So that's three zero one. Okay, it passes. All right. Um [4:51:59, 4:51:59]: Excuse me. [4:52:00, 4:52:04]: All right, uh council consideration uh to approve uh [4:52:05, 4:52:19]: TSW task order for construction design of North Precinct Police Building, 4545 North Henry Boulevard, amount of 165,000,$165,175 funding sources through the bonding process. [4:52:19, 4:52:20]: Chief Trammer, please. [4:52:22, 4:52:29]: Yes, uh I'm not sure if everyone is familiar with or has seen the facility over there. It's uh quite dated and it is in need of upfitting. [4:52:30, 4:52:34]: Uh currently Henry County is operating a [4:52:34, 4:52:39]: Essentially a precinct out there. This is not a police headquarters. [4:52:39, 4:52:50]: Uh therefore there are uh necessary additions that will be required. Uh in addition to that, as I said before, the building is in need of some uh some cosmetic uh uh [4:52:51, 4:52:52]: repairs, renovations. [4:52:52, 4:52:57]: There's a complete second level of the building that's unfinished that we'd be seeking to finish out. [4:52:57, 4:53:01]: uh to allow us for uh future growth for the department. [4:53:01, 4:53:10]: Um, this is just a rendering. It's a very uh rudimentary, it's not anything uh that I'm sure Miss Hubble and her team will assemble, but I just wanted to provide. [4:53:10, 4:53:29]: uh council and uh uh you may are also with just a rendering so you have an idea of what we're looking to accomplish. This is the first level of the facility. In the upper right hand corner you can see there's a roll call room and what that room is, it's it's basically uh uh where the police officers meet prior to their shift and they receive their briefing orders. [4:53:30, 4:53:46]: We would like to expand that room, turn it into a community room slash multi-purpose room that we could use for various different community functions, public safety related functions. This would also be a training room where we could host outside training, invite other agencies in to be a part of training that we host. [4:53:46, 4:54:03]: And it would also serve as uh an emergency operations center in the event that uh we were required to set something up uh along those lines for the city. So we would want to move this space out, which would require us um moving uh this this uh this wall here, and I don't know if you all can see. [4:54:03, 4:54:12]: um my cursor, but we would have to extend this space back here, uh reconfigure a couple of offices. We would have to reconfigure this uh this center space here. [4:54:13, 4:54:32]: And um uh just add a few offices here. One of the big structural things we'd need to do is add a door to the back of the facility. This is all gated parking back here in the back. Um, and we would like the officers to be able to access the facility from the officer gated parking lot instead of uh having to [4:54:32, 4:54:33]: Um [4:54:34, 4:54:38]: walk around non-access controlled areas to gain access into the facility. [4:54:39, 4:54:49]: Uh the second level is completely uh open. We'd be looking to convert that into office space and we have consulted with TSW on this project. [4:54:49, 4:55:09]: And just wanted to give you a little bit of an overview. And Heather and Carl with Kekkenwood is also on the call with us. I believe I saw them here. And so they would be able to answer any specific questions that you might have. But the project overview basically updating the aesthetics of the building. [4:55:09, 4:55:18]: Um uh adding new doors as you can see here. The front doors are all wood. We would like to open this up, turn these into glass doors and add a door to the back of it. [4:55:18, 4:55:25]: Um the interior renovations is basically updating the floors, walls, doors, ceilings, lighting, furnishing, so on and so forth. [4:55:25, 4:55:30]: It would be reconfiguring that multi-purpose room that I spoke of. [4:55:30, 4:55:34]: We would have to incorporate a property and evidence uh slash crime lab. [4:55:34, 4:55:42]: into the building which currently does not exist. We would need to reconfigure the roll call room or patrol suite. We'd be looking to add a fitness center. [4:55:42, 4:55:46]: and then um do some office reconfiguration. [4:55:46, 4:55:58]: The unfinished space we would be converting into executive, administrative offices, conference room, kitchenette, and restrooms in that second level that I've mentioned here. So that's what we're looking to accomplish. [4:55:58, 4:56:15]: Um in going over the proposal that I sent to you all yesterday, it's broken down into several different phases. Uh the first phase obviously is the rough draft of schematic design where we sat down with our project manager, sat down with TSW and their architects. [4:56:15, 4:56:18]: And come up with uh the conceptual design. [4:56:18, 4:56:26]: Phase B would be design development where they would provide us with a rendering of that. We'd be able to make modifications if needed to if those need to be made at that time. [4:56:26, 4:56:37]: Phase C would be preparation to construction documents, and then phase D would be bidding and approval, getting all the permitting, bid preparation, evaluation, and the last part is construction administration. [4:56:37, 4:56:39]: Uh there are two [4:56:39, 4:56:41]: uh options that we are considering. [4:56:42, 4:57:00]: And in terms of uh renovation, this is just a uh timeline. So you can see if we go the traditional route in terms of following these different phases that was just uh mentioned, uh we would we would be looking um and there is some variance um [4:57:01, 4:57:21]: one way or the other on this, um, but conservatively, as I understand that Heather was estimating uh the end of August uh would be a realistic time frame if we went with the traditional uh bidding process. The other option that was proposed to us was the construction manager at risk option. And I will let Heather speak to that specifically for any questions. [4:57:21, 4:57:22]: Yeah. [4:57:22, 4:57:28]: But essentially with that we could cut down the uh construction time on the project. Um [4:57:29, 4:57:37]: by nearly a month, if we were to go this route. And there are pros and cons, uh, which again I will allow Heather to uh share with you. [4:57:37, 4:57:43]: Uh from a cost standpoint, uh we're seeking$165,175. [4:57:43, 4:57:46]: uh funding source would be at the police be out of the police bond. [4:57:46, 4:57:48]: uh to uh [4:57:48, 4:57:59]: consult with or or work with TSW to prepare the uh renderings, the design development, construction documents, and assist us with that process. [4:58:01, 4:58:02]: Any questions? [4:58:03, 4:58:04]: Yeah. [4:58:05, 4:58:14]: It let me ask you, is there a difference in the cost factor, whatever fate what if whiche the way we go with the the the timeline? Is there a difference in the cost at all? [4:58:15, 4:58:23]: No, I don't believe there is, Heather, and and I don't want to misspeak, but based on our conversations, I believe that those are essentially going to be the same. We may [4:58:23, 4:58:33]: um um be able to get some of that funding back if we go to construction manager at risk, but as it stands right now, uh it would be this price either way. [4:58:34, 4:58:35]: You want to speak to that, Helen? [4:58:36, 4:58:56]: That is that is correct. Um, so the if CM at risk was taken on, um the consultant that would be affected would be our cost consultant, ADE. Um, you should be familiar with them. They're doing the um art center, they're gonna be doing the park system plan. [4:58:56, 4:59:00]: Um but pending how [4:59:00, 4:59:02]: And if CM at risk comes on board. [4:59:03, 4:59:04]: Their [4:59:05, 4:59:08]: Work scope would change from creating [4:59:08, 4:59:09]: Um [4:59:10, 4:59:13]: cost estimates to just reviewing. [4:59:14, 4:59:25]: Um and if that's the route that is taken, um I have I have made Chief a promise that at that time we'll provide uh a deduct. [4:59:26, 4:59:32]: professional feedback for that to the city. Um and not knowing if that's the way the city's gonna take and when that [4:59:33, 4:59:34]: Uh, see him at risk. [4:59:34, 4:59:36]: Would become a board. I can't [4:59:37, 4:59:42]: give you a specific amount of money. Uh, but I am promising you all that um [4:59:43, 4:59:43]: Uh huh. [4:59:43, 4:59:45]: If at all possible [4:59:45, 4:59:49]: The sooner seam at risk gets on board will provide a deduct. [4:59:50, 4:59:51]: professional feedback to see. [4:59:52, 4:59:57]: Sounds good to me personally, but we'll see what everybody else is thinking. Uh was it that two men for ten you want to [4:59:58, 5:00:01]: Mayer, if you don't mind, I'd like to add on to the discussion. [5:00:02, 5:00:03]: Um [5:00:04, 5:00:05]: The only concern I have [5:00:05, 5:00:11]: And I think construction manager at risk would help us on the on the back end as far as uh [5:00:11, 5:00:13]: shortening up the time to [5:00:14, 5:00:14]: Um [5:00:15, 5:00:21]: Get them under contract to to do the project. I do I do have a concern that [5:00:22, 5:00:29]: uh on the front end, how long it would take us to go through a procurement step, the procurement process to bring a construction manager. [5:00:29, 5:00:35]: on board. I'm not saying I have a solution for that tonight. Uh I've just started the discussions with [5:00:36, 5:00:40]: А вот Чиф Траймер тоді. [5:00:40, 5:00:45]: And I wanna look at some maybe some other procurement options with the procurement department regarding [5:00:46, 5:00:52]: uh parts of this project. So before we land on how we're gonna deliver the construction, I I wouldn't [5:00:52, 5:00:54]: Рекоменда um [5:00:55, 5:00:58]: The Heather and Chief and I talk a little bit more about that. [5:00:58, 5:01:04]: And get with the the with the uh procurement department to come up with a a plan to actually deliver the construction. [5:01:05, 5:01:11]: Uh the the biggest problem is is this is a very short timeline to get a construction project designed. [5:01:11, 5:01:20]: and bid and then constructed. Um it's it feels very, very tight to me. And you can see that Heather's uh they're [5:01:20, 5:01:22]: schedule was was quite long. [5:01:23, 5:01:32]: I just wanna get sold on whether or not the construction manager at risk is gonna buy us the time we need or maybe there's some other procurement processes that we can explore. [5:01:33, 5:01:37]: uh to do that to get this project done as quickly as the chief needs it done. [5:01:38, 5:01:48]: Okay, thank you. Uh was that Mayor Pro Tem were you next, sir? You speaking? Yeah. Yes. The follow up question that I would have is Chief, is it absolutely necessary for [5:01:49, 5:01:52]: The building to be one hundred percent complete on July first. [5:01:52, 5:01:55]: Uh would that additional time be beneficial? [5:01:56, 5:01:58]: To making sure that the project was done. [5:01:58, 5:02:00]: A hundred percent correct. [5:02:02, 5:02:08]: Yeah, it it doesn't have to be completely finished. And that's what Carl and I were speaking of earlier today. Uh the city has [5:02:08, 5:02:12]: As I understand and Mr. Wiggins, you can probably speak to this the [5:02:12, 5:02:18]: Um a construction company that they were uh contracting with previously that was going to do the [5:02:18, 5:02:30]: um addition in the lower level of City Hall that you all were talking of earlier, uh, there may be a way that that we could potentially utilize them for the renovation portion of the first level. [5:02:30, 5:02:35]: And then we could uh work on building out that second level, that unfinished space. [5:02:36, 5:02:41]: Um as we're occupying the facility. So we could approach this as a phase route. It's our hope that [5:02:41, 5:03:00]: we can, you know, get most of it done, if not all of it, before we move in. But uh we were discussing that in in, you know, either way, uh we're gonna we're gonna make do and we're gonna get into that building one way or the other. But uh that there is the possibility that we can break this up into two separate projects. [5:03:01, 5:03:08]: Right. My my point being is that it might be beneficial in order to do that because as Carl was stating. [5:03:08, 5:03:14]: Uh there might be s you know, you never know with these construction projects. There might be some additional time that's [5:03:14, 5:03:21]: that we've seen uh from these projects due to what what you know it's inside, but it might be weather, whatever the case might be. [5:03:22, 5:03:24]: But um I just want to make sure that [5:03:24, 5:03:28]: We're delivering to these officers what they deserve. [5:03:28, 5:03:32]: in the time frame, even if it takes a few extra days in order to do that. [5:03:34, 5:03:40]: Yeah, we certainly don't want to circumvent or or cut any corners and uh sacrifice. [5:03:40, 5:03:45]: Um, you know, the the quality that certainly will not happen, but um [5:03:45, 5:03:57]: I think that being the first level, we're just looking at, you know, renovations that perhaps maybe we could get to work on that um sooner than later. I did speak with uh Chief Amberman of Henry County. They're prepared to move out. [5:03:57, 5:04:03]: Um as soon as February first. So February first I believe they'll be out of the building so we'll have it available. [5:04:03, 5:04:08]: uh to begin doing whatever we need to do. But uh Carl and I will have some additional discussions. [5:04:08, 5:04:11]: And uh actually he and Heather and I are looking at [5:04:11, 5:04:18]: sinking up next week to go over and look at the space again and and to put our hands together and see what solutions we can come up with. [5:04:18, 5:04:23]: So you need from us the ability to just approve this and then you all can work out. [5:04:23, 5:04:26]: The rest of the details amongst yourselves. [5:04:26, 5:04:27]: That's correct. [5:04:28, 5:04:35]: Right. Okay. All right. Thank you. Stand by for a second. Mr. Thomas, you had you're unmuted. Do you have something to say, sir? [5:04:35, 5:04:38]: No, I'm good. anybody else? Any other comments? [5:04:39, 5:04:42]: All right, Mayor Proton, go ahead. You I think you want to do something here. [5:04:42, 5:04:55]: Yeah, I want to make a motion to uh what what we suggested, which was building in the extra time to it to do it in phases and do it 100% correct uh delivering uh on the best possible project. [5:04:56, 5:04:57]: So [5:04:58, 5:05:05]: Okay. Uh I've heard Mr. Thomas's voice there. I heard Mr. Thomas' voice. Any further discussion? If not, all in favor, please indicate. [5:05:06, 5:05:07]: Is it [5:05:07, 5:05:21]: Is it okay unanimous decision? Okay, fantastic. All right, for what we have next was a council consideration for the speed bunts for Winslow Eagles Landing at Eagles Landing. And I'm gonna start this off with Mr. Aaron, please. [5:05:22, 5:05:34]: Yes, Ms. Mayor. Um the City of Stockbridge currently has a speed hump policy that requires a simple majority to install speed humps. It's 51%. It's not a [5:05:34, 5:05:44]: supermajority like a lot of other places that requires two thirds of the residents. We received a petition from the residents in uh Winslow's Eagles Landing. [5:05:44, 5:05:47]: And sixteen percent of the residents responded to [5:05:48, 5:05:51]: The petition, but the petition requires fifty one percent. [5:05:51, 5:05:53]: For it to be approved. [5:05:53, 5:05:55]: according to the city's bead harm policy. [5:05:57, 5:06:00]: Okay. Yes, sir. [5:06:00, 5:06:04]: Okay, it's been a long day already. I live in the community. [5:06:04, 5:06:09]: I can't drive through the community and talk to anybody without dealing with this particular process. [5:06:09, 5:06:13]: Uh and I think uh the requirement is very cumbersome. [5:06:14, 5:06:15]: You know, it requires [5:06:15, 5:06:19]: Uh, fifty percent of a neighborhood with three hundred and nine homes and [5:06:19, 5:06:39]: You know, maybe 35 or 40 percent of rentals. So it's a monumental task. It's absolutely necessary. So I think the city should move forward uh with the uh speed bumps on the western side of Winbrook Drive to make sure that these residents stay safe. There's trucks cutting through there, the school bus. [5:06:39, 5:06:59]: is cutting through there because we understand the city had nothing to do with this project, but we have the utmost responsibility to make sure it's safe. So I would like to go ahead and make a motion that we move forward with the speed bumps as recommended that these residents have requested on Winbrook Drive West. [5:07:00, 5:07:15]: All right. Well you realize that we're going against our own policy though. You realize that. I I I certainly do. But in the end, it's it's a rec the policy is a recommendation. It's not a uh it is the council's the will to do that. And that this point we need to move forward with it. [5:07:16, 5:07:21]: We'll be setting a new precedent, by the way. I just wanted to make make that known. Is there a second to the motion? [5:07:21, 5:07:30]: Mayor Ford, I want to ask Mayor Pro Tin Alexander. I'm very much aware of the situation in this subdivision. [5:07:30, 5:07:32]: I wanted to ask him if he would include. [5:07:33, 5:07:33]: Well. [5:07:33, 5:07:36]: First, let me ask Mr. H Aaron. [5:07:36, 5:07:40]: Is it appropriate to also add no cut through signs? [5:07:42, 5:07:44]: Those yes, yes ma'am, we [5:07:45, 5:07:57]: We had put some out earlier, but just like a lot of other things, people look at signs, they don't really pay attention to certain signs, just like the no-cut through at City Hall, you still have people. So [5:07:58, 5:08:02]: is the ones that gonna obey the law, gonna obey the law, those are that are not or not. [5:08:03, 5:08:13]: And then on July 1st, we'll have the chief have set up the car in there. Then they got the sign and they see the sign. But again, I want to go ahead and make a motion to move forward with this. [5:08:13, 5:08:14]: Waving the city. [5:08:15, 5:08:18]: uh policy at this time to move forward with this. [5:08:18, 5:08:22]: to do what's appropriate in this unique urgent circumstance. [5:08:22, 5:08:24]: Maybe ma'am. [5:08:25, 5:08:30]: Oh I'm sorry. I'll wait for the second first before I okay. Is there a second to your motion? [5:08:33, 5:08:51]: I was asking if you can amend your motion to include the no cut-through sign. Oh, certainly. Yes. Let's add that to the motion. Amend the motion based on what I just said and add the cut through signs. And then again, the chief, we need somebody in there to enforce this once we get it get up get it up under us. [5:08:53, 5:08:55]: Okay. Is there a second to the motion? [5:08:56, 5:09:00]: I second. Okay, Ms. Barber seconds that. Okay, Ms. Gantt, go ahead, please. [5:09:00, 5:09:05]: Okay, I have a question. So we don't have 51%. [5:09:05, 5:09:09]: Yeah. Is that what we is that what we're saying? Yes, right. We don't [5:09:10, 5:09:25]: And is there a reason that they attempt to get everyone in the neighborhood? Because I I totally understand that that campground road and the busyness of that, but I have a concern. I mean, I would think that everybody in that subdivision will want to sign this. [5:09:26, 5:09:27]: And if not [5:09:27, 5:09:30]: I don't believe in going against the policy. [5:09:31, 5:09:32]: That we presented. [5:09:33, 5:09:37]: Well we're getting ready. Have we heard some people that are against it? [5:09:37, 5:09:46]: I mean, I I just need to know, I think we need to abide by our our policies. I'm not against this at all. I agree. [5:09:46, 5:09:58]: But I can't I did what I didn't know is, and I actually put it in the email, let's just call for the vote. Everybody knows that this I thought the petition had over 51, I mean had 51%. [5:09:58, 5:10:02]: No, it doesn't. But if it doesn't, I don't want to go against our policy. [5:10:02, 5:10:16]: So is there a re did we cut it short? Is there someone here who can tell me who won who was the person that went out to get the position petitions and why isn't it more than 51%? What what's the problem? [5:10:16, 5:10:29]: The issue is it requires 50% of the entire subdivision, and the subdivision now has been cut in half. On my side of the subdivision, it doesn't affect us at all. [5:10:29, 5:10:49]: Because there's no traffic coming through my side of the subdivision. The side of the subdivision that they're on has fewer homes, but all the cars are coming through their side of the subdivision. What they did was they got the signatures on their side of the subdivision because it affected them, because Wembrook Drive is now cutting. [5:10:49, 5:10:53]: in half campground comes across comes through the subdivision. [5:10:53, 5:10:57]: uh on our side, but the majority of the homes that live on my side. [5:10:57, 5:11:17]: No, I don't even have to go out that way ever because I can take campgrounds and leave my side of the subdivision. So they were hamstrucked by the re other side of the residents, really didn't care because they don't have to deal with that because they don't have to have to go out that side. So those those people they tried to get signatures on the other side and they wouldn't. [5:11:17, 5:11:20]: wouldn't sign it? Is that what's going on? [5:11:20, 5:11:27]: They they attempted to go out to the rest of the subdivision to do what they do, but understanding what we're dealing with. [5:11:27, 5:11:47]: Most half of the 40% of the residents are renters. They don't care whether you do it or not. They don't own the property. They rent here as we're dealing with in the city. So they were facing that uphill challenge. But what I can say is that they got 50% of the residents on Winbrook Drive, the people that actually use it. [5:11:47, 5:11:57]: use the road and they use it every day on their side of the subdivision, they got over 50% of those residents who use the road who are in danger. [5:11:57, 5:12:06]: getting out into traffic on on a regular basis because trucks come whizzing through there, cars come whizzing through there on a regular basis. And those residents [5:12:07, 5:12:27]: Will tell you if we had to go until 1215 at night, a Benito Seabolt was going to be on here and Yvette Davis was going to be on here telling us about how the dangers that they face every day in the community. So here we are. So yes, I've asked for a waiver to waive the city policy in order to move this forward because of this extraneous. [5:12:27, 5:12:41]: Circumstances of again, more of the homes live on my side of the subdivision. They have very few homes, and they did garner the signature of most of the residents on the street itself. [5:12:42, 5:12:44]: Where is anybody? [5:12:44, 5:12:46]: Besides you, Councilman Alexander. [5:12:47, 5:13:04]: representing or speaking for this, I saw I I hear what you're saying. I don't want to go against the policy, but I agree with you. I think it's absolute I I don't go there often enough, but when I did go, I it was just unbelievable the split. [5:13:04, 5:13:06]: Uh of the subdivision. [5:13:07, 5:13:09]: Um I I don't like it. [5:13:10, 5:13:10]: Um [5:13:11, 5:13:15]: What I but my biggest concern is. [5:13:17, 5:13:18]: You know [5:13:19, 5:13:23]: When at what point and when do we make exceptions to the rules? [5:13:23, 5:13:30]: I'm asking for a waiver of the rules under an extra circumstance. I don't anticipate. [5:13:30, 5:13:36]: A road being cut through the middle of any other subdivision and stock bridge because we would have control over that. [5:13:36, 5:13:37]: And we would never do that. [5:13:38, 5:13:40]: These residents have suffered enough. [5:13:40, 5:13:44]: I know that because I live here and I see them every day. [5:13:44, 5:13:58]: And I understand when a child has to cross that road to get to the swimming pool, risking their safety, it matters. And then then cars zooming up and down this road. They were prepared to say exactly what I'm saying now. [5:13:58, 5:14:03]: If we hadn't went to twelve fifteen at night. So I'm calling for the vote. [5:14:05, 5:14:07]: Well they they're prepared. [5:14:08, 5:14:12]: They would have said it during public comments, right? At the beginning of the meeting. [5:14:12, 5:14:20]: Well, what I was prepared to do was not make the presentation, but to take my time and allow one of them to speak. And they had agreed to do that. [5:14:20, 5:14:22]: So I was gonna turn [5:14:22, 5:14:27]: Wait for say a few words and then I was gonna turn the complete thing over to them because like I said. [5:14:27, 5:14:31]: I don't live on that side of the neighborhood. It has zero effect on me. [5:14:32, 5:14:43]: Because I don't have to take that side. I can take campground and go anywhere I want to go. So I might see that once a month if I'm going to Eagles Landing Middle School or Flipping Middle School. My kids aren't in school now. [5:14:44, 5:14:47]: I think the uh a campground road. [5:14:47, 5:14:49]: The type of road it is. [5:14:49, 5:14:51]: going through a subdivision. [5:14:51, 5:14:58]: is absolutely hideous. And I do think this is an extrangit ex I think this is a special circumstance. [5:14:59, 5:14:59]: I do. [5:15:00, 5:15:02]: And it may be something new. [5:15:02, 5:15:04]: It may be a new policy set. [5:15:05, 5:15:13]: Um, you know, laws do change, policies could change, and this may be a very good example of it. [5:15:13, 5:15:23]: But I I you know, I wanna make sure that we abide by our policies and rules and regulations. However, I totally understand this situation. I really do. [5:15:23, 5:15:27]: Um, I wish I would know the actual percentage of the people. [5:15:27, 5:15:35]: on that side particular side. I know you said it was overwhelmingly overwhelmingly more than 50%. Um [5:15:36, 5:15:38]: From that particular side. [5:15:38, 5:15:42]: Uh because it does. It pretty much splits that subdivision into two. [5:15:42, 5:15:46]: Um and so with that I I will support it. [5:15:47, 5:15:48]: Any other comments? [5:15:49, 5:15:56]: Before the record, Mayor, sir. Cut through signs were installed on July 2nd in 2020. [5:15:57, 5:16:07]: I don't know. I ain't seen'em. Oh well, there there is one on the front side. It says no trucks. It does not say all traffic. It just says no trucks. But they do it anyway. Yeah. [5:16:09, 5:16:29]: Mr. Thomas, go ahead, sir. Yeah, I I would agree. Uh, under the circumstances, I know I know there's a policy in place, but sometimes we have to look past that. I think when it comes to the safety of our citizens, in particular the kids, and I didn't know this before, Mayor Pro Tem, about the kids. [5:16:29, 5:16:36]: Is having to cross the street to get to the swimming pool. I think with those kind of circumstances, I think we have to um [5:16:37, 5:16:38]: vote in favor of this. [5:16:38, 5:16:39]: All right. [5:16:40, 5:16:42]: All right, all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [5:16:42, 5:16:43]: Uh [5:16:43, 5:16:59]: That's an unanimous decision. All right. So Mr. Mr. Aaron, uh, so I guess you got the mission now to go out there and um I don't know how how many how uh well I guess it's in the policy, how many feet of they're apart from one another, things of that nature. So you gotta go out there and analyze that and and get that installed. [5:17:00, 5:17:01]: All right. Yes, sir. All right. [5:17:01, 5:17:11]: Appreciate it. Okay. On that note, believe it or not, I have some comments, right? COVID 19 still among us. Matter of fact, they say this Omicron. Omicron variant is now out there. [5:17:12, 5:17:12]: I'll be done. [5:17:13, 5:17:14]: This doggone thing won't die. [5:17:15, 5:17:35]: All right. So anyway, so we still got COVID nineteen folks. We still gotta be careful. Still still gotta wear your mask, wash your hands, watch your distance, and get your vaccination. You gotta get a vaccination. Unfortunately, uh, we're right now in the state of Georgia, we are uh struggling about fifty-one percent across the state with uh people fully vaccinated. [5:17:35, 5:17:55]: And I think 58% what people um only with one doses of this vaccination. And CDC says, hey, get your booster shot as soon as possible. It's available. Supposedly it's good to go for anybody 18 or over to get a booster shot. And a little tad bit, take a flu shot too while you're at it. Get that out the way as well. [5:17:55, 5:18:00]: We are one end of the winner here shortly this aspect. Um [5:18:00, 5:18:07]: So I'll I'll just stop at that point, but uh we know we've been down this road. Uh one other thing, darn it. [5:18:07, 5:18:24]: We still got free COVID-19 testing in Red Hawk Field at uh on Henry Parkway, Monday to Friday, 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. And you want a vaccination course Department of Health uh at 135 uh Henry Parkway in Madonna, 800-847. Um [5:18:25, 5:18:40]: 4622, I believe that is. Okay. And then state of the state of department, uh the the State Department of Health, 888-7 uh 457-0186. And you call them and they'll tell you where you can get a vaccination taken care of. [5:18:40, 5:18:48]: On that note, let's go to the two uh announcements. Um planning commission meeting at 6:30 p.m. via Zoom, the revised meeting. [5:18:48, 5:18:50]: Date is going to be December second. [5:18:51, 5:18:57]: 6 30. U council meeting 5 30 by way of Zoom, second Wednesday of each month, uh December eighth. [5:19:00, 5:19:20]: Main Street Advisory Board meeting is second fire Friday of each month, 9 a.m. uh December 10th. It's by way of Zoom. The city council meeting and board hearing, budget hearing. I'm saying final adoption, 6 p.m. on the second day of the month, which is December 13th, which will be our first day where we have we're back in our chambers. [5:19:20, 5:19:40]: After a year plus year and a half, almost a year and three quarters. So December 13th in the chambers. And of course, just as we open up the buildings to the public last Monday, mass will be required, temperature checks will be required, and we'll separate people as best as possible, six feet or several seats apart from one. [5:19:40, 5:20:00]: another and the council along with the attorneys and the city and the city clerk will have uh uh plastic um or berries uh between us to keep us all safe in this aspect so december thirteenth in the chambers for the very first time in in a long time downtown author uh downtown development authority meeting six p.m by way of zoom third two [5:20:00, 5:20:20]: Tuesday of East Month on December 21st is that meeting. And youth council and violatory meeting, 630 by way of Zoom, second Tuesday, excuse me, third Tuesday of East Month, which is December 21st as well. And um it says in City Hall, but it's by way of Zoom. But anyway, youth council advisory meeting, but we'll say Zoom here. Planning Commission meeting, 630 by way of Zoom. [5:20:20, 5:20:26]: Zoom revised meeting schedule as on actually on the 16th of December for the Planning Commission meeting. [5:20:26, 5:20:31]: And please join uh Councilwoman Barber and Barbar Minus Conference Center for a free Zuma fitness. [5:20:32, 5:20:33]: Uh in the park. [5:20:33, 5:20:36]: Saturdays eight AM. Yes, ma'am. [5:20:36, 5:20:38]: That location has changed. [5:20:38, 5:20:47]: It's cold, so we've moved it to Eagles Landing Dance Center. That's at 627 Red Oak Road in Stockwell. [5:20:47, 5:20:56]: Okay, good deal. We'll make that appropriate change uh for the monthly updates uh uh in this aspect and annual holiday festival. [5:20:56, 5:20:58]: It's Thursday, December second. [5:20:58, 5:21:02]: Okay, five PM to nine p.m. at Meromana's Copper Center. [5:21:02, 5:21:20]: Outside in the out it'd be outside actually at 111 Davis Road and uh get a chance to see Santa and Mrs. Claus and Crystal Snow Princess and some live animals and reindeers and get into holiday festival uh spirit. On that note, I need motion to to uh adjourn our meeting. [5:21:22, 5:21:26]: So move. So move. Mr. Thomas, I guess you second that. [5:21:27, 5:21:31]: Well I I had a quick comment, but go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. [5:21:32, 5:21:45]: What's going on, sir? Well, I I just want to uh take this opportunity to thank all of the veterans that submitted that profile. Uh it was an honor for me to be able to uh recognize them and honor them. And because of [5:21:45, 5:22:05]: veterans are still asking can they submit profile. I just wanted to say that we will continue uh this on a monthly basis. So please uh submit your profile, your pictures, and and we will continue this process. Thanks to all of the veterans. And I appreciate that, sir. I appreciate it, sir. Since I'm a 30-year veteran, thank you very much. I appreciate your [5:22:05, 5:22:16]: your service to the veterans and to the city. Thank you for your service. All right, no problem. Okay. Mayor Pro 10, you made a motion. Councilman Thomas, you second that motion motion. All right. Good deal. [5:22:17, 5:22:18]: All in fair motion, please indicate. [5:22:19, 5:22:27]: Yes. All right. Good night. Good night. Good night. Sleep good. I'm out of you. Indeed.

--- title: Main Street Advisory Board Meeting date: 2021-11-19 source: 2021-11-19_Main_Street_Advisory_Board_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:03, 0:00:04]: Okay. [0:00:13, 0:00:30]: All right, good morning everyone. I am going to go on and get the meeting started. As I mentioned in the email reminder to everyone, there is a ribbon cutting that has been scheduled for today. It's not one that we planned. [0:00:30, 0:00:35]: Um, but we have been asked as Main Street staff to be there. [0:00:35, 0:00:37]: Um that is for a downtown business. [0:00:37, 0:00:40]: Um the funnel cake heaven. [0:00:40, 0:00:48]: And so um I want to make sure that we have some representation from the Main Street staff. And if there are any board members. [0:00:48, 0:00:51]: Who are able to get over there just to say hello. [0:00:52, 0:00:55]: Um, we would really appreciate that as well. [0:00:55, 0:00:59]: So I'm going to go on and call the meeting to order. [0:00:59, 0:01:03]: Um for our chair, um, both archair and vice chair. [0:01:03, 0:01:06]: Um are not able to be here. [0:01:06, 0:01:11]: Um our vi our chair person, Anika Potts, had um a work. [0:01:11, 0:01:14]: engagement that she could not o that was unavoidable. [0:01:15, 0:01:16]: And um [0:01:16, 0:01:17]: Oh wait a minute. [0:01:18, 0:01:22]: And um Mr. Hopkins is actually um [0:01:23, 0:01:25]: not able to attend as well. [0:01:25, 0:01:25]: So [0:01:26, 0:01:28]: Um, I'm going to start. [0:01:28, 0:01:29]: With our [0:01:30, 0:01:31]: Roll call. [0:01:31, 0:01:32]: Uh [0:01:32, 0:01:38]: Rocio Camacho, she actually has contacted me. She is out of the country at this time. [0:01:38, 0:01:40]: Um prayer Finley. [0:01:41, 0:01:41]: Present. [0:01:42, 0:01:43]: Shamari Firch. [0:01:44, 0:01:45]: Present. [0:01:46, 0:01:47]: Vanessa Gepsi. [0:01:51, 0:01:52]: Willie Hopkins. [0:01:55, 0:01:56]: Greg Horton. [0:01:57, 0:01:58]: Present. [0:01:59, 0:02:00]: Linda Jones. [0:02:01, 0:02:02]: Present. [0:02:02, 0:02:06]: Anika Potts is not here. Mildred Reed present. [0:02:08, 0:02:09]: Barber Richardson. [0:02:11, 0:02:14]: I thought I saw Barber. Oh yeah. [0:02:15, 0:02:15]: Thank you. [0:02:17, 0:02:19]: And then Alfonso Thomas. [0:02:23, 0:02:24]: Okay. [0:02:26, 0:02:27]: Yeah. [0:02:27, 0:02:29]: That is our attendance. [0:02:29, 0:02:31]: Um, Lisa. [0:02:31, 0:02:36]: If you are still on the line, can you please um resend? [0:02:36, 0:02:38]: Um a link to [0:02:38, 0:02:43]: Mr. Hopkins, it seems he just texted me and seems that he's trying to [0:02:43, 0:02:45]: Get on the [0:02:45, 0:02:47]: Um link. [0:02:47, 0:02:50]: Yes. Can I send him the same one I used? [0:02:50, 0:02:53]: Just go on and send that one so he can get in. [0:02:53, 0:02:54]: Okay. [0:02:54, 0:02:57]: Um, it might have your name on it as well. [0:02:58, 0:02:59]: But we don't know that [0:03:00, 0:03:02]: It's improperly labeled if it does go to here. [0:03:03, 0:03:04]: And it has your name on it. [0:03:05, 0:03:06]: Do I send it to the um [0:03:08, 0:03:09]: Cap a hop. [0:03:09, 0:03:10]: Yes. [0:03:10, 0:03:10]: Okay. [0:03:11, 0:03:12]: Thank you. [0:03:12, 0:03:13]: Yep, you're welcome. [0:03:13, 0:03:20]: Okay, and now we get to the meeting of our mission reading of our mission statement, and I'll go on and do that for us. [0:03:20, 0:03:24]: The Stockbridge Main Street program's mission is to design and support [0:03:25, 0:03:28]: an identifiable down identifiable downtown district. [0:03:28, 0:03:30]: Де промотц економік вitality. [0:03:31, 0:03:33]: Cultivates artistic expression. [0:03:33, 0:03:37]: Encourages cultural enrichment and nurtures community spirit. [0:03:38, 0:03:42]: As I told you all, we're gonna have a condensed um very quick [0:03:42, 0:03:44]: Um meeting. [0:03:44, 0:03:47]: So we'll go through our agenda pretty quickly to allow for [0:03:47, 0:03:50]: Um staff and board members to get to [0:03:50, 0:03:51]: The funnel cake. [0:03:51, 0:03:54]: having ribbon cutting if any board members are. [0:03:54, 0:03:56]: available to attend. [0:03:56, 0:04:00]: So let's go to the review and approval of our meeting agenda. [0:04:00, 0:04:04]: You all should have received that, and I'll give you all a few moments too. [0:04:04, 0:04:07]: Um review over it just in case you need a few moments. [0:04:12, 0:04:14]: There's Mr. Hopkins coming in. [0:04:15, 0:04:18]: Please note that Mr. Hopkins is joining the meeting. [0:04:20, 0:04:22]: Good morning. Good morning. I apologize for being talking. Good morning. [0:04:23, 0:04:24]: I couldn't find the link this morning. [0:04:25, 0:04:26]: That's okay. [0:04:27, 0:04:28]: How are you feeling this morning? [0:04:29, 0:04:35]: I'm on the road to recovery. Uh I'm just glad the doctors found that blood clot. So, you know. [0:04:36, 0:04:39]: Oh, everybody didn't know about that. [0:04:41, 0:04:42]: You scare me. [0:04:42, 0:04:44]: Yeah. Well you know. Are you coming along? [0:04:45, 0:04:51]: Yeah, a little bit. I'm still having a problem with my lower leg, but um they found a blood clot on the back on the back of my calf, so [0:04:51, 0:04:55]: Um, they got me on medication now, so I feel a whole lot better, but I'm still in a lot of pain. [0:04:55, 0:04:58]: Yeah, well I'm glad they caught that. [0:04:58, 0:05:00]: I sure would have missed you if anything went wrong. [0:05:00, 0:05:02]: I know that's right. [0:05:05, 0:05:18]: Well, Mr. Hopkins as Vice Chair, are you able to um resume um leading the meeting for us? Absolutely. Absolutely. Okay, we're at the re review and approval of the meeting agenda. [0:05:18, 0:05:23]: So um we've given everybody some time to review. So you can take it from there, sir. [0:05:23, 0:05:43]: Outstanding. Thank you, Madam Uh Director. Good morning again, everybody. I apologize for my tartiness. Uh at this present time. According to the director, everybody had an opportunity to review the agenda that was set forth. I asked at this time, what's your pleasure in uh accepting the uh agenda? [0:05:47, 0:05:52]: Mr. Vice Chair, I move we uh approve the agenda as as presented. [0:05:53, 0:06:05]: Thank you, sir. Okay. Thank you, Greg. And thank you, Ms. Richardson. It's been moved by Mr. Horton and second by Ms. Richardson to approve the agenda as presented. Are there any discussion at this time? [0:06:06, 0:06:10]: Hearing none, uh all in favor, manifested by [0:06:10, 0:06:13]: Raising your hand, uh I don't see who all in here see. [0:06:14, 0:06:21]: Um I'll call the names that I see that's on here and then we'll go from there, Miss uh, Miss Reed. [0:06:25, 0:06:30]: You're on mute. Okay. She waved. I guess that's her. I waved my hand because I was doing a couple of things. Okay. Okay. [0:06:31, 0:06:34]: Okay. All right. Uh Miss Miss Richardson. [0:06:35, 0:06:36]: Yes. [0:06:37, 0:06:39]: Mr. Horton? Yes. [0:06:39, 0:06:40]: Miss Finley? [0:06:41, 0:06:42]: Yes. [0:06:42, 0:06:43]: Mr. Furch. [0:06:44, 0:06:45]: Yes. [0:06:46, 0:06:46]: Miss Jones. [0:06:48, 0:06:48]: Yes. [0:06:49, 0:06:50]: And myself [0:06:51, 0:06:51]: Uh [0:06:52, 0:06:56]: Yes. All opposed? I think that's all I see at this present time. [0:06:56, 0:06:57]: All opposed. [0:07:02, 0:07:03]: Good morning, Willie. [0:07:03, 0:07:04]: Hey, Midjon. [0:07:06, 0:07:09]: Approved. The agenda has been approved unanimously. [0:07:09, 0:07:11]: Thank you, good folks. I appreciate that. [0:07:11, 0:07:12]: Uh [0:07:12, 0:07:26]: The next on the item is roll call and I'll um I already did roll call. Okay, I'm behind the career. I'm behind the career. So you can go straight into the uh review of the minutes. Okay, outstanding. [0:07:26, 0:07:27]: Um [0:07:28, 0:07:40]: The November minutes, uh no, no, October minutes has been disseminated via the email. Uh, think everybody had an opportunity to take a look at those uh for any correction or any misspelling at the present time. Um [0:07:41, 0:07:45]: At this time I'll ask uh what's your pleasure in in in in approving the [0:07:46, 0:07:50]: October twenty twenty-one um minutes for the Main Street board. [0:07:59, 0:08:02]: I'll move we approve the minutes as presented. [0:08:02, 0:08:03]: Thank you, Mr Horne. [0:08:07, 0:08:08]: In about a second that. [0:08:09, 0:08:10]: A certain [0:08:10, 0:08:11]: Thank you, Ms. Ree. [0:08:12, 0:08:14]: It's been probably moved and probably second. [0:08:15, 0:08:27]: Um approved by moved by Mr. Horton and properly seconded by Ms. Reed that we accept the October 2021 minutes as presented. Are there any discussions at this time in reference to those minutes? Uh any corrections to those minutes? [0:08:30, 0:08:37]: Hearing none, uh, I'll call the roll call um for your favor. Uh I say yes, Willie Hopkins, Ms. Reed. [0:08:38, 0:08:38]: Yes. [0:08:39, 0:08:42]: Thank you. Mr. Holden? Yes. [0:08:42, 0:08:43]: Miss Richardson? [0:08:44, 0:08:44]: Abstain. [0:08:45, 0:08:47]: Couldn't you? Okay. [0:08:48, 0:08:50]: I was absent that meeting. Okay. [0:08:52, 0:08:53]: Miss Finley? [0:08:53, 0:08:54]: Yes. [0:08:55, 0:08:55]: Mr. Furch. [0:08:56, 0:08:58]: Yes. Ms. Jones. [0:09:02, 0:09:03]: Yes. [0:09:04, 0:09:10]: Okay, the October 21 uh minutes have been uh uh approved with one abstention involved. [0:09:10, 0:09:13]: So uh at this present time we go ahead on with the uh [0:09:14, 0:09:15]: Next part of our agenda. [0:09:16, 0:09:30]: That would be the financial statements. Um, everybody had the opportunity, those financial statements went out at the same time the minutes was. Uh, hope everybody had the opportunity to review those uh financials at this present time. Are they um [0:09:31, 0:09:36]: I'll ask you what's your pledge at this time to approve the 20 October 2021 financials? [0:09:42, 0:09:48]: Um Sir Chair, I move that we accept the financial statements as written. [0:09:48, 0:09:50]: Thank you, Ms. Ree. Do we have a second? [0:09:50, 0:09:51]: A second. [0:09:52, 0:09:53]: Uh thank you, Mr. Furch. [0:09:55, 0:09:59]: It's been properly moved and properly seconded by Ms. Reed and Mr. Firch. [0:09:59, 0:10:04]: um to approve the October 2021 minutes. Are there any discussion at this time? [0:10:05, 0:10:07]: In reference to those uh financials. [0:10:09, 0:10:13]: Hearing none, Willie Hopkins, yes, Ms. Reed. [0:10:14, 0:10:15]: Yes. [0:10:16, 0:10:17]: Mr. Horton. [0:10:18, 0:10:18]: Yes. [0:10:19, 0:10:20]: Miss Finley? [0:10:21, 0:10:21]: Yes. [0:10:22, 0:10:23]: Miss Jones. [0:10:26, 0:10:26]: Yes. [0:10:27, 0:10:28]: Mr. Furch. [0:10:29, 0:10:31]: Yes. Minister Richardson. [0:10:32, 0:10:32]: Yes. [0:10:33, 0:10:42]: All right. It's been uh approved by a majority vote. Thank you for your participation in those approvals of those uh minutes and those financial statements. [0:10:42, 0:10:43]: Um [0:10:44, 0:10:46]: Next on the agenda. [0:10:46, 0:11:00]: Um is our Main Street manager report and discussion at this present time. I will yield the floor and send it over to Miss Kira Brace Harris, our program, our awesome program Main Street Director for her report. [0:11:01, 0:11:07]: Thank you very much. Um, and um welcome everyone and good morning. [0:11:08, 0:11:10]: I appreciate you all being here. [0:11:10, 0:11:16]: Um, for this meeting and I apologize for us having to kind of rush through. [0:11:16, 0:11:22]: But I did want to make sure that you all were updated on several items with regard to Main Street business. [0:11:23, 0:11:28]: um housekeeping items and any announcements that we have we would handle here. [0:11:29, 0:11:29]: Um [0:11:30, 0:11:41]: As far as board terms are concerned, we discussed this at um both our September and October meetings. Um I ask for everyone to submit their statement of intent. [0:11:41, 0:11:47]: For continuing on the board. There are a few members that I have not received that information from, but your terms are not. [0:11:48, 0:11:49]: Uh for um [0:11:50, 0:11:51]: Renewal. [0:11:51, 0:11:56]: Or um termination if you're interested in um rolling off the board. [0:11:56, 0:12:08]: But up for reappointment this year are Willie Hopkins, Anika Potts, Greg Horton, and um Linda Jones. Linda, I think you're the only person that I haven't received the statement of intent from. [0:12:08, 0:12:12]: So if you could get that back to me as soon as possible. [0:12:12, 0:12:18]: Um if you're planning to continue on the um board, uh we hope you will be that already. [0:12:19, 0:12:21]: Did you submit it yes, yesterday? [0:12:21, 0:12:25]: Oh yesterday. Okay. Um I just haven't received. [0:12:25, 0:12:39]: She has it. Okay. Thank you very much. Um, so um we will be um submitting those four names for reappointment to the city council. The appointments will be made at the December 13th. [0:12:39, 0:12:41]: City Council meeting. [0:12:43, 0:12:49]: So please mark that in your calendars, the December thirteenth city council meeting. [0:12:50, 0:13:01]: And that kind of gives me a segue into the fact that City Hall is now open for meetings. Um, we've opened to the public. We had been closed for the entire um [0:13:02, 0:13:05]: Covid um pandemic um [0:13:05, 0:13:05]: M. [0:13:06, 0:13:09]: We were doing that in um extreme caution. [0:13:09, 0:13:14]: Um for the safety of the public and for the safety of our staff, city hall staff. [0:13:15, 0:13:16]: But the building has now been open. [0:13:17, 0:13:20]: So that leads me to ask the board. [0:13:20, 0:13:25]: How you all would like to proceed with regard to our meetings? [0:13:25, 0:13:28]: Um we can remain virtual. [0:13:28, 0:13:33]: Or we can um change to an in-person um meeting format. [0:13:35, 0:13:36]: And um [0:13:36, 0:13:43]: In some instances, um, a hybrid type situation is available, but unfortunately. [0:13:43, 0:13:47]: With our current setup in the Levi room, there is not really [0:13:48, 0:13:49]: Um the [0:13:49, 0:13:52]: Технології авелево фор. [0:13:53, 0:13:56]: A hybrid meeting where you could choose to either be um [0:13:57, 0:14:06]: in person or on Zoom. So it's it's kind of an all or nothing with regard to our current technology in that particular meeting room. [0:14:07, 0:14:07]: Um [0:14:08, 0:14:10]: So, I would like to hear some. [0:14:11, 0:14:14]: Quick discussion as to whether you all would like to return to [0:14:15, 0:14:17]: in person or if you would like to remain virtual. [0:14:18, 0:14:20]: Or if you would like to um [0:14:20, 0:14:27]: remain virtual for a certain period of time and then return to in-person meeting. So do we have anyone with [0:14:27, 0:14:29]: I think Miss Reed, yes, Miss Reed. [0:14:29, 0:14:42]: I would like to recommend, I thought about it immediately, that we finish this year out, because it's at the end of the year virtual, if it's okay with everyone, and then make a decision starting the first of the year as to what direction we should be heading in. [0:14:43, 0:14:45]: Okay. It's Miss Reed's [0:14:45, 0:14:47]: Suggestion to [0:14:47, 0:14:55]: Um continue until some point in next year to decide what we would like to move forward with. Is there any other discussion on that? [0:14:56, 0:14:58]: That's actually exactly what I was gonna say. [0:14:59, 0:15:02]: I like the way you said that. So yes, I agree with Miss Reed. [0:15:03, 0:15:05]: Okay, Greg, I think you raised your hand. [0:15:06, 0:15:25]: Yeah, I I I I agree with uh Miss Reed as well, uh, but making the note that it it appears that cases are on the rise again. And as I think we should review it the first of the year after everybody has gathered for the holiday to see what the situation pans out to be before we decide to meet in person again. Okay. [0:15:26, 0:15:34]: And I would even recommend that um not necessarily the January meeting, but maybe the February or March meeting so that we can see what the [0:15:35, 0:15:37]: Um results are for the um [0:15:37, 0:15:39]: Holiday as Greg has mentioned. [0:15:40, 0:15:40]: Um [0:15:41, 0:15:42]: So and the [0:15:42, 0:15:46]: Ms. Reid, would you like to frame your um suggestion in a motion? [0:15:50, 0:15:51]: You're on mute, huh? [0:15:56, 0:15:58]: A little bit. Okay, I I apologize. [0:15:59, 0:16:00]: I motion that we [0:16:01, 0:16:15]: do have the meeting for the rest of the year as virtual and sometime in January, February, March timeframe that we make a decision based on the numbers after the holiday. [0:16:15, 0:16:25]: That's a long motion, I know, but you gave me three different months. Can you narrow it down to one month for us to for February? February? Okay. [0:16:30, 0:16:34]: Really? Straighten the emotion out for me, please. [0:16:34, 0:16:35]: I got you. [0:16:35, 0:16:36]: I got you. [0:16:36, 0:16:38]: Well like that. [0:16:38, 0:16:40]: I carry that for you, Blue. I got you. [0:16:40, 0:16:42]: Okay, Mr. Hopkins. [0:16:43, 0:16:44]: All right, thank you, Madam Director. [0:16:45, 0:16:45]: Uh [0:16:46, 0:16:49]: You've heard the motion, uh the motion Ms. Reed stated was [0:16:49, 0:16:58]: Uh we uh the Main Street Board will remain virtually until the month of February. We'll assess it at that time. Uh the second in reference to that. [0:16:58, 0:16:59]: I'll second that. [0:17:01, 0:17:05]: All right, it's been moved by Miss Reed and properly second by was that Miss Jones? [0:17:07, 0:17:08]: No, Miss Finley. [0:17:08, 0:17:14]: Ms. Finley, I'm sorry. Ms. Finley, um, are there any discussion in reference to the motion at this present time? [0:17:16, 0:17:21]: Hearing none, uh I asked for a vote at this time. Will it hope and I say yes, Miss Reed. [0:17:21, 0:17:21]: Yes. [0:17:22, 0:17:24]: Uh Mr. Horton. [0:17:24, 0:17:25]: Yes. [0:17:25, 0:17:26]: Mr. Furch. [0:17:28, 0:17:30]: Yes. Miss Richardson. [0:17:31, 0:17:32]: Yes. [0:17:33, 0:17:33]: Miss Belly. [0:17:35, 0:17:36]: Yes. [0:17:36, 0:17:37]: Miss Jones. [0:17:38, 0:17:38]: Yes. [0:17:39, 0:17:42]: That motion will approve by major uh by unanimous vote. [0:17:42, 0:18:02]: Thank you for voting that. And I think um that's a great opportunity for us as well. Um to just like I said, look at those numbers to see where we are. And I think we've gotten accustomed to the virtual setting, but it's also uh gonna be pleasing to for everybody to get back together to some sense of normacy, but this may be our norm at some point in time. But [0:18:02, 0:18:04]: Thank you all so much for voting on that. [0:18:05, 0:18:07]: Okay. [0:18:07, 0:18:08]: Thank you, sir. [0:18:08, 0:18:13]: All right, um as for our update on our city projects, um [0:18:14, 0:18:17]: We do have the both the um [0:18:18, 0:18:26]: One fourteen white box pro one fourteen MLK white box project and the Ted Strickland remodel. [0:18:26, 0:18:28]: Both of those um [0:18:28, 0:18:31]: projects have gone to bed and we are in the [0:18:31, 0:18:34]: Um process f of selecting a contractor now. [0:18:35, 0:18:38]: Uh, with the Ted Strickland, we are down to the final. [0:18:38, 0:18:39]: Um [0:18:39, 0:18:46]: five bidders that are going to be considered and then with the Ted Strickland we're down to those finalists as well. [0:18:46, 0:18:50]: So we should be making a decision with regard to which contractor [0:18:50, 0:18:52]: We will be going with the do the work. [0:18:53, 0:18:56]: Um, I'm thinking by the end of next week. So after that. [0:18:56, 0:19:03]: Um, it'll just be a matter of setting up the timeline for getting both of those com projects completed. So I am very excited. [0:19:04, 0:19:09]: about the movement on those particular projects. Once it goes to fit, it moves pretty quickly. [0:19:09, 0:19:16]: It's just getting to the bid process. It takes a little bit of time, but we are moving forward with those two projects. [0:19:16, 0:19:21]: With regard to the alleyway project, um there is a meeting scheduled for [0:19:21, 0:19:22]: Um later. [0:19:22, 0:19:26]: Next week that um I'll be meeting with the engineers. [0:19:26, 0:19:30]: to um look over the tweaks that they made based on our um [0:19:31, 0:19:33]: Some of our feedback that we received. [0:19:33, 0:19:36]: And um then we'll be taking that again. [0:19:36, 0:19:38]: Um to the [0:19:38, 0:19:39]: Property [0:19:39, 0:19:40]: owners in the [0:19:40, 0:19:43]: Um that downtown area that will be impacted by those. [0:19:44, 0:19:45]: That particular project. [0:19:46, 0:19:48]: Um, also I wanted to report that. [0:19:49, 0:19:49]: The [0:19:50, 0:19:50]: Um [0:19:51, 0:19:57]: DDA, joint DDA Main Street Work Plan Committees have finally started meeting. [0:19:57, 0:20:01]: The downtown beautification and um [0:20:01, 0:20:03]: activation committee met this week. [0:20:03, 0:20:07]: And the downtown um design and connectivity. [0:20:07, 0:20:12]: Um committee they have also met this month. So we have gone over the work plan. [0:20:13, 0:20:17]: Um and when the where there has been some need for tweak that has been done. [0:20:18, 0:20:23]: And everyone has had homework assignments and they're going to be coming back to us next month. [0:20:23, 0:20:25]: Uh, for more discussion and [0:20:26, 0:20:28]: setting the task [0:20:28, 0:20:28]: Um [0:20:29, 0:20:30]: Seven um [0:20:31, 0:20:33]: Setting up our tasks, making sure that we're [0:20:33, 0:20:34]: Working [0:20:34, 0:20:37]: The work we are doing the work of the work plan. [0:20:38, 0:20:40]: And making sure that we [0:20:40, 0:20:42]: uh move those items forward. [0:20:42, 0:20:46]: In addition, um, we are going to be [0:20:46, 0:20:50]: Trying to get on the December thirteenth agenda. [0:20:50, 0:20:56]: To ask for the city council to approve our work plan. [0:20:56, 0:20:59]: And this is um something that [0:20:59, 0:21:02]: We definitely need to do. I know Greg. [0:21:02, 0:21:07]: Um, had some comments at the end of our last meeting speaking to the fact that [0:21:08, 0:21:10]: We sometimes have projects that [0:21:11, 0:21:14]: We are trying to move forward and we don't always get. [0:21:14, 0:21:20]: council approval and or council buy-in to those particular projects and things stall or [0:21:21, 0:21:22]: Get taken off the table. [0:21:22, 0:21:23]: All together. [0:21:23, 0:21:25]: And so in an effort to [0:21:26, 0:21:33]: Quail that type of situation, we are going to be taking our work plan to the city council for their approval. [0:21:33, 0:21:35]: So this is them saying, Hey. [0:21:35, 0:21:40]: We are okay with everything that you all are planning to do over the next year. [0:21:40, 0:21:43]: And years to follow to support that particular plan. [0:21:44, 0:21:47]: Um we had some council members at our [0:21:47, 0:21:49]: Um retreat. [0:21:49, 0:21:51]: And they participated in [0:21:51, 0:21:58]: were in favor of the items that were added to that work plan. And so we just want to get [0:21:58, 0:21:59]: Um [0:21:59, 0:22:04]: Like I said, approval, buy-in, whatever you want to call that from the entire council. [0:22:05, 0:22:09]: so that we won't have situations where we're moving forward doing work. [0:22:09, 0:22:11]: Um as a board. [0:22:11, 0:22:17]: both Main Street and DDA putting in work, putting in um time and effort, and then to have that [0:22:17, 0:22:19]: particular project or idea. [0:22:20, 0:22:22]: Stymied or taken off the table. [0:22:23, 0:22:29]: Are there any questions with regard to the work plan committees, the projects that we're working on, or anything that I've [0:22:29, 0:22:31]: Um mentioned thus far. [0:22:33, 0:22:39]: Okay, again, I know I'm kind of moving fast, so just wanted to make sure that you all had an opportunity to [0:22:39, 0:22:40]: Chime in if you needed to. [0:22:41, 0:22:53]: Um, the next thing is um the support of our small business blitz that is going on right now and also our small business Saturday, which will be happening on November the 27th. [0:22:53, 0:22:55]: We're um [0:22:55, 0:22:58]: Doing media updates on our um [0:22:59, 0:23:00]: Social media [0:23:00, 0:23:05]: And Lisa has been working very diligently um with some of our [0:23:05, 0:23:08]: New participants this year. [0:23:08, 0:23:17]: To put together videos. As you all will recall, we have done videos for the past years with different Main Street businesses or different [0:23:17, 0:23:20]: Shop small businesses, shop small participants. [0:23:21, 0:23:27]: And we're trying to continue that tradition so that we pull in even more of our businesses that can be featured. [0:23:27, 0:23:29]: In these little vignettes. [0:23:29, 0:23:33]: Um, Lisa, are you able to queue up um one of the [0:23:33, 0:23:38]: Commercial not commercials, but spot ad spots that we've put together. [0:23:38, 0:23:41]: Um, this one is just an overview that we put together. [0:23:41, 0:23:44]: Just to give people encouragement to come out. [0:23:44, 0:23:46]: We're also doing um [0:23:46, 0:23:50]: As I said, videos with some of our new participants from this year. [0:23:51, 0:23:52]: So Lisa, if you [0:23:53, 0:23:54]: Share your screen. [0:23:54, 0:23:57]: Are you able are you all seeing Lisa screen? [0:23:58, 0:24:06]: Um, I hope so. Um, because it just for some reason decided to disappear on me. So give me give me a second, I'm gonna find it again. [0:24:10, 0:24:11]: Yes. [0:24:13, 0:24:14]: Here it comes. [0:24:14, 0:24:24]: Hello, I'm Kira Harris Braggs and I'm the Main Street Manager for the City of Stockbridge. And I'm Lisa Fareet. I'm the program coordinator for Stockbridge Main Street. [0:24:24, 0:24:44]: And we're inviting you to come and support our local businesses the entire month of November. Come out and shop, dine, and do business with all of our locally owned small businesses. We've come up with the Stockbridge Small Business Blitz and the Small Business Passport. The Passport has over 30. [0:24:44, 0:24:48]: participating locally owned businesses. [0:24:48, 0:24:53]: Customers are asked to go ahead and visit these businesses, shop at four, [0:24:53, 0:25:00]: Get four stamps and you're eligible to participate in a drawing for a hundred dollar cash card. [0:25:00, 0:25:05]: November is the month for our small business blitz here in Stockbridge. [0:25:06, 0:25:22]: One day is not enough. We want to shop and support our local businesses for the entire month of November. So please grab a passport and go shopping, go dining, and support Stockbridge businesses. [0:25:22, 0:25:27]: We need you to shop till you drop and dine non-stop. [0:25:27, 0:25:31]: You better shop around here [0:25:34, 0:25:35]: Okay. [0:25:35, 0:25:48]: So that's our overview. Hopefully you saw some businesses that you currently support and want to support in the near future. Lisa, how many um videos are we doing for businesses? [0:25:49, 0:26:06]: Um there are seven individual businesses. This video this little video is the eighth one. And we've been trying to stick with eight each year. It doesn't always work out. But what I love is that we have some newcomers to to the program. [0:26:06, 0:26:08]: We have one for Elf's Cakery. [0:26:09, 0:26:13]: That one's gonna be coming out. Um, we've got one for the funnel cake. [0:26:13, 0:26:16]: Heaven that's gonna be um doing their ribbon cutting today. [0:26:16, 0:26:17]: Um [0:26:18, 0:26:23]: Oh my goodness, all of a sudden, oh there's a paint and sit place. It's called Paint by Design. [0:26:23, 0:26:25]: On Hudson Bridge, they have a video. [0:26:26, 0:26:27]: Um the [0:26:28, 0:26:30]: The bed and breakfast also. [0:26:31, 0:26:32]: Stockbridge lights, yeah. [0:26:33, 0:26:38]: Stockbridge Lakes bed and breakfast. And for some reason the rest are not coming to my mind right now. [0:26:39, 0:26:40]: But we'll be rolling them out. [0:26:41, 0:26:44]: Um, I'm gonna try to do as many as I can. [0:26:44, 0:26:52]: Uh in the next couple of days so that it's out before Small Business Saturday. And we'll let those run till the end of the year actually. [0:26:53, 0:27:00]: So be sure to um stay connected to Main Street's social media, our Facebook page will be putting them [0:27:00, 0:27:05]: Showing them there. Also the city of Stockbridge will be rolling them as well. [0:27:05, 0:27:06]: So uh we're [0:27:07, 0:27:12]: Trying to get a good collection. We've done some in the past. Um, Greg has done one, Linda has done one. [0:27:12, 0:27:18]: Um several other businesses. Like you say, we've we've got a pretty good collection of videos that we'll be able to run. [0:27:18, 0:27:20]: The entire um [0:27:20, 0:27:31]: week of Thanksgiving and then um for small business Saturday and into the holiday season. So we're really proud of those. And I need everyone to give Lisa a hand because she has been [0:27:32, 0:27:39]: Just running ragged trying to get these things done. And um thank you, Lisa, for all the work that you're putting into this particular promotion. [0:27:40, 0:27:43]: And then awesome thank you to board members, Greg Horton. [0:27:43, 0:27:59]: Um he put the passport together and that is no easy task, let me tell you. Um just getting it, getting people to respond with their logos and letting him know whether they're gonna be open and what their hours are and what their specials are. [0:27:59, 0:28:00]: It's been um [0:28:01, 0:28:09]: Definitely a labor of love. So, Greg, thank you so much for taking over that part of the process. And then also recruiting businesses. Um [0:28:09, 0:28:13]: Prayer, Linda, both of you have been very instrumental in. [0:28:14, 0:28:17]: Um bringing businesses on board to participate. [0:28:17, 0:28:22]: Um so everyone that has done anything around this particular promotion, thank you so much. [0:28:23, 0:28:27]: Because this year we decided to do it for the entire month of November. [0:28:27, 0:28:34]: And so that kind with the amphitheater opening, trying to get this started for the entire month as opposed to just the one day. [0:28:34, 0:28:39]: It has been very um hectic and so everyone has been asked to. [0:28:39, 0:28:40]: Kinda do [0:28:40, 0:28:41]: Um [0:28:41, 0:28:49]: double duty on this. So I really do appreciate all the effort that everyone has put into this. And now I'm asking all of our board members [0:28:49, 0:28:54]: to get the word out, get your friends, your family, everyone that you know. [0:28:54, 0:28:58]: To start shopping and dining locally with our start bridge businesses. [0:28:58, 0:29:07]: And especially on the um shop small um date, small business Saturday, the twenty-seventh of November. [0:29:07, 0:29:12]: I'm charging all of our board members, if you are in the area, to please [0:29:12, 0:29:14]: Go out and support. [0:29:15, 0:29:22]: At least four of the businesses that are participating and um take pictures, do selfies. [0:29:22, 0:29:26]: Um send those in to us so that we can let people know that our board. [0:29:27, 0:29:29]: Із супортінь дис нашно ефо. [0:29:29, 0:29:30]: To support [0:29:31, 0:29:35]: Small businesses in our local community. So thank you in advance. [0:29:36, 0:29:44]: for any efforts that you all put forward around this and I have passports here at City Hall. If anyone needs passports that they would like to [0:29:44, 0:29:45]: Help distribute. [0:29:46, 0:29:54]: Um oh and I need to tell everyone that each business that is involved has passports at their location. [0:29:55, 0:29:57]: And then the passports will be turned in. [0:29:58, 0:30:04]: Um, the deadline for turning in all the passports is December the third, which is the first Friday. [0:30:04, 0:30:07]: in December and they can turn them in at [0:30:07, 0:30:09]: Greg's um location. [0:30:10, 0:30:23]: They can turn them in at drip through coffee or at city hall. So if people give them to you um because they know you're on the board and ask you to turn them in, those are locations that you can turn them in, but always you can bring them. [0:30:24, 0:30:27]: the city hall and we'll collect them here. So there's a drawing for [0:30:28, 0:30:32]: One hundred dollar giftкар, American Експрес гіфкарфопіпу шоп. [0:30:32, 0:30:36]: Throughout the month of November, people that specifically shop. [0:30:36, 0:30:36]: On [0:30:37, 0:30:41]: Um small business Saturday, they have an opportunity to be in a drawing for. [0:30:41, 0:30:52]: Um two hundred dollars, s uh two hundred dollar gift cards. So that basically makes someone eligible to win three hundred dollars during this holiday shopping season. So [0:30:52, 0:30:59]: Please get the word out and make sure that you all are doing the same in supporting Small Business Saturday. [0:30:59, 0:31:03]: And can I just um add in terms of your support? [0:31:03, 0:31:04]: Um [0:31:05, 0:31:15]: If you would please go onto the Stockbridge Main Street Facebook page and like the different videos as they're coming out, that generates more um [0:31:16, 0:31:18]: I guess viewership for them. [0:31:18, 0:31:23]: And um in addition to that, if you are out and about shopping throughout the month. [0:31:24, 0:31:26]: Um and especially on uh [0:31:27, 0:31:28]: The Saturday after Thanksgiving. [0:31:28, 0:31:39]: Please send me photos of yourself or whoever you're with at that shopping location so that I can post them on Facebook and this will generate a lot more interest. [0:31:39, 0:31:41]: Yes. Thanks, Lisa. [0:31:42, 0:32:02]: And that leads me into uh celebrating a very special business. Um, Linda Jones with CNL Family Salon has celebrated her 15th anniversary of being a downtown business. So let's give her a hand. Um that anniversary was on [0:32:01, 0:32:19]: November the 6th, I think it was. And Linda, we just want to celebrate you and thank you for um being at Downtown Business, being a part of this board, and being a part of our community. Um, as you all know, Linda also does um a [0:32:19, 0:32:23]: A spectacular community service. She has a food pantry. [0:32:23, 0:32:24]: That um [0:32:24, 0:32:26]: regularly distributes [0:32:26, 0:32:30]: Food items to the community, those who are in need of food. [0:32:31, 0:32:33]: So we definitely. [0:32:33, 0:32:40]: appreciate you, we appreciate your business and we appreciate your connection to the community because [0:32:40, 0:32:41]: You have [0:32:41, 0:32:45]: Definitely wrap your arms around the city of Stockbridge. [0:32:45, 0:32:46]: And we really [0:32:46, 0:32:47]: Admire you. [0:32:48, 0:32:49]: And we celebrate you, Linda. [0:32:50, 0:32:51]: This whole month of November. [0:32:52, 0:32:53]: Yay. [0:32:53, 0:32:54]: Yeah. [0:32:54, 0:32:55]: I [0:32:55, 0:32:56]: So much. [0:32:58, 0:32:58]: Okay. [0:32:59, 0:33:01]: Okay. Oh, Linda, are you trying to say something? [0:33:02, 0:33:03]: I just said thank you so much. [0:33:04, 0:33:06]: You are welcome. You are so welcome. [0:33:07, 0:33:10]: And I'm I might be making a mistake here, so forgive me, but [0:33:10, 0:33:11]: Um prayer. [0:33:12, 0:33:16]: Is there a an anniversary at Elf's this month also? [0:33:16, 0:33:28]: Um it was July. It was July, yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. Someone else told me they had an anniversary. I thought it was you. Yeah, it was um we celebrated 11 years, um July 25th. [0:33:28, 0:33:32]: Okay, okay. Sorry about that. We'll get we'll have a party for you in July. [0:33:38, 0:33:41]: Greg, you also don't you have a fall anniversary too? [0:33:42, 0:33:51]: No, ours is in spring. Um but drip through drip through is celebrating five years of decreased. Okay. There was one more, but it doesn't come to me right now. So [0:33:52, 0:33:56]: All right. All right. Well, thank you everyone for um [0:33:56, 0:33:58]: Supporting our small businesses. [0:33:59, 0:34:10]: And then finally, I just wanted to announce that the city of Stockbridge will have their drive-thru celebration, holiday celebration at the Merrill Manders. [0:34:10, 0:34:17]: On Thursday, December the second, it will be a drive-thru. They're going to have Santa and Mrs. Claus. [0:34:17, 0:34:20]: A winter wonderland um kind of light show. [0:34:21, 0:34:32]: They'll also have a live nativity, so a nativity scene with live animals. So if you have children, that might be something that they would definitely be interested in. Hey, I've got teenagers and we're gonna be coming through. [0:34:32, 0:34:38]: Um and they'll be giving away goodie bags and things for cr to recognize the um holiday. [0:34:38, 0:34:44]: So please um put in your plans and help us get the word out about the city of Stockbridges. [0:34:45, 0:34:48]: holiday celebration on December the second and [0:34:48, 0:34:54]: Um usually Main Street does the hot cocoa stand, but since we're still doing um our [0:34:55, 0:34:55]: Covid. [0:34:56, 0:35:02]: carrying out our COVID precautions. We will be providing cocoa, but it will not be um in liquid form. [0:35:03, 0:35:09]: will be putting to g they'll be putting together a cocoa packet and giving that to everyone as a part of their goodie bag. [0:35:10, 0:35:12]: Um in Main Street will be contributing that. [0:35:12, 0:35:16]: to the goodie bag items that will be distributed on that [0:35:16, 0:35:17]: Your word day. [0:35:18, 0:35:23]: Okay, that's all that I have for my report. Again, I'm sorry that we're kind of rushing through. [0:35:23, 0:35:24]: Um but [0:35:24, 0:35:29]: gotta get over there to the uh ribbon cutting. So I'll give it back to you. [0:35:29, 0:35:29]: Um [0:35:30, 0:35:31]: Mr. Vice Chair. [0:35:32, 0:35:52]: Uh thank you, uh Kira. Uh as we prepare to uh adjourn this meeting, I'd just like to take a a small point of privilege to uh thank uh everybody on the board, especially uh Kira, Lisa, and Mr. Peterson for your continuous support and endeavors to support this board. [0:35:52, 0:36:12]: And the leadership that you provide for this board and for the rest of the Main Street board members, thank you for your time and your effort and your input in trying to revitalize or vitalize downtown Stockbridge and make it more vibrant for footprints to come down there and have folks to enjoy our city. So thank y'all for that. Um [0:36:12, 0:36:15]: Uh, but on another note, this is the Thanksgiving season. [0:36:15, 0:36:34]: But every day is a thanks. So we need to, you know, thank everybody each and every day. Share love with our families. Uh enjoy the holiday. Don't eat too much. But just tell your family that you love them. Um we still in a pandemic, still be safe. Um, be careful, wear your mask. Um [0:36:34, 0:36:54]: And those things, if you if you uh incline to get those shots, the booster shots is out there. I've got mines, and and so just love each other, man. We got to love each other more than ever before. And uh when when we when we cross paths the wrong way, let's say, hey, I'm sorry, I apologize, and let's move on and continue to uplift. [0:36:54, 0:37:14]: with each other because we have to continue to love one another to help each other get through what you know this day is bringing to us each and every day. So but I'll yield the floor on that. And um also uh on the record, I just want to thank uh Councilman Thomas and and uh Councilman Gantt for their election as well. They back on the board. So we just want to put that on the record [0:37:14, 0:37:25]: And wishing them very well wishes in their endeavors in uh leading this city as well, and the rest of the councilmen as well and the mayor. So, but other than that, uh I would yield and um [0:37:25, 0:37:31]: adjourn this meeting ask for a motion to adjourn the meeting at this time and uh the floor is open for that motion. [0:37:34, 0:37:36]: A motion to adjourn the meeting. [0:37:38, 0:37:40]: I will second that motion, please. [0:37:40, 0:37:47]: Thank you, Mr. Jones. It's been moved by Mr. First that we adjourn the meeting at nine forty. It was properly seconded by Ms. Jones. [0:37:47, 0:37:48]: Are there any questions? [0:37:49, 0:37:55]: Hearing none. Uh I'll uh ask for a vote at this time. Willie Hopkins, yes. Miss Reed. [0:37:58, 0:37:59]: Yes. [0:38:00, 0:38:00]: Mr. Furch. [0:38:01, 0:38:02]: Yes. [0:38:03, 0:38:03]: Miss Finley. [0:38:04, 0:38:05]: Yes. [0:38:05, 0:38:06]: Miss Richardson? [0:38:08, 0:38:09]: Mr Horton. [0:38:10, 0:38:11]: Yes. [0:38:11, 0:38:12]: And Miss Jones. [0:38:13, 0:38:14]: Yes. [0:38:14, 0:38:24]: approved. Everybody uh have a good day, be safe and have a great weekend. And uh we'll see you uh December the 10th at our next uh board meeting. [0:38:25, 0:38:34]: Okay, thank you for your flexibility and we're gonna dash over to Funnel Cake Heaven. Enjoy your holiday. Happy Thanksgiving, everybody. [0:38:35, 0:38:35]: Mm. [0:38:40, 0:38:41]: Thanks, Willie. [0:38:45, 0:38:45]: Okay.

--- title: Downtown Development Authority Meeting date: 2021-11-16 source: 2021-11-16_Downtown_Development_Authority_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:02, 0:00:18]: Uh hello everyone. We are at the October regular meeting for the Downtown Development Authority. And uh it's today is October 19th at 6 p.m. Um so uh Bob, if we could start off with uh roll call, please. [0:00:21, 0:00:25]: Okay. Uh Roger Custon? I am here. [0:00:26, 0:00:27]: Uh art Christian. [0:00:28, 0:00:28]: Present. [0:00:29, 0:00:30]: Синікокінь. [0:00:31, 0:00:31]: Present. [0:00:32, 0:00:33]: Um [0:00:33, 0:00:34]: Barber Richardson? [0:00:38, 0:00:38]: Mm. [0:00:39, 0:00:40]: Uh Maxwell Sears. [0:00:43, 0:00:45]: And Bob Swagert the I'm here. [0:00:47, 0:00:51]: And uh Councilwoman Gantt as well. And and Gantt. Councilwoman Gantt. [0:00:54, 0:00:55]: Okay. [0:00:57, 0:01:08]: Well, we do have four out of the seven members, so I believe that constitutes a quorum. So um we will officially open the meeting at six oh three p.m. [0:01:10, 0:01:30]: Right. And uh we also have uh a few of the city staff. Thank you for joining and supporting the DDA, Alan Peterson, Kira, uh Harris Braggs, as well as um our trusted uh uh uh city clerk, Vanessa Holliday. Thank you all for joining. And also for the [0:01:30, 0:01:35]: the record Barber welcome I th I see you've joined as well [0:01:35, 0:01:37]: Yeah, welcome, welcome. [0:01:38, 0:01:55]: Three. All right. So first item on the agenda is to approve today's agenda. So it was sent out on uh October the 13th and a few days later as well. So I'd like to hear a motion to approve today's agenda. [0:01:57, 0:02:03]: I move that we approve the agenda today's agenda. All right, thank you. Second. [0:02:04, 0:02:08]: That was Samequa. Thank you. So is there any discussion? [0:02:12, 0:02:32]: All right, so we will do this by um I I know not all the cameras are on, so uh let's look for whoever has the camera and uh vote to approve today's agenda, we'll raise our hands in favor. And so that is myself, Art, Bob, and Barber. [0:02:32, 0:02:38]: Uh Samaqua, yeah, yes or no for today's agenda. So we'll say yes. So it's unanimous. Thank you. [0:02:42, 0:02:58]: All right, next item on the agenda is the August 17th meeting minutes. They were uh sent on October the 13th. So um I'll uh like to hear a motion not to approve the October 17th meeting minutes as prepared by the city clerk. [0:02:58, 0:03:01]: So moved. Thank you, Art. [0:03:01, 0:03:01]: Second. [0:03:02, 0:03:03]: All right. [0:03:05, 0:03:07]: Second, first. All right. Any discussion? [0:03:11, 0:03:23]: Hearing none, uh, we'll do the same thing. Those with the camera on, you uh raise your hand in favor of approving uh the August 17th meeting minutes. All right, I see unanimous by those and Sumikwa, yes or no? [0:03:23, 0:03:26]: Um, do I have to abstain? Because I wasn't at that meeting. [0:03:27, 0:03:28]: You may. Okay. [0:03:31, 0:03:49]: Thank you. All right. So that uh that moves those items along. So I don't have any uh opening remarks, so we will move right into the uh treasurer's update. So uh Barber, did you want to present or you want me to uh present the report you sent just earlier? [0:03:49, 0:03:54]: You you mean as in on the screen? If you can share your screen. I sure will. Okay. [0:03:54, 0:03:56]: I'm working on two computers. I'm sorry. [0:03:56, 0:04:01]: No worries. Let me get it ready and I'll have it in just a moment. [0:04:03, 0:04:03]: Let me see. [0:04:04, 0:04:05]: Alright. [0:04:08, 0:04:12]: Okay, it is here. Let me share the screen. [0:04:19, 0:04:20]: All right. [0:04:21, 0:04:26]: If you can confirm you can see it. Yes, we can we can. All right, very good. [0:04:28, 0:04:31]: Pretty uneventful. We've actually had no change in cash. [0:04:31, 0:04:32]: Um [0:04:33, 0:04:46]: Since June of 2021, the cash balance has remained the same for July, August, and September. The uh outstanding liability to the city for the trend uh the surveying transaction, that check has been [0:04:46, 0:04:47]: Um [0:04:47, 0:04:53]: sent and I did check the account today and it was cleared but it didn't clear till October but we did send it in September. [0:04:54, 0:05:02]: So as of September 30th, it still shows up as a liability, but as of today, October 19th, it has since cleared the bank. [0:05:02, 0:05:05]: Um the only other items that we have. [0:05:06, 0:05:08]: Roger, if you can scroll down, coming up. [0:05:09, 0:05:15]: Is a legal bill due to our attorney for his review of the bylaws in the IGA. [0:05:16, 0:05:23]: Um, and what's not presented, I think there is gonna be a bill for Zoom, which is gonna just be a monthly ongoing operating expense. [0:05:23, 0:05:27]: Um but as of now that's the only thing that we have outstanding. So [0:05:27, 0:05:36]: Again, cash balance has remained the same for the past three months. In October, we will see that reduction for the Saveane sale. [0:05:36, 0:05:43]: Um, and then we'll probably also see the legal fees and operating expenses, which would be just the Zoom transaction. [0:05:43, 0:05:45]: On the next tab. [0:05:45, 0:05:49]: You'll see that's reflected. We have no expenses that we've incurred on the PNL. [0:05:50, 0:05:52]: The past three months, so [0:05:52, 0:05:59]: We're still sitting, no revenue or no expenses. So we're still kind of just sitting where we were for our last report. [0:06:00, 0:06:03]: I will entertain any questions if you have any. [0:06:07, 0:06:08]: Any f any questions for Barber? [0:06:11, 0:06:13]: I go ahead. [0:06:16, 0:06:32]: All right, I have a question and a comment. So the uh Sylvain uh transaction, I had a follow, I believe after you had sent the check, maybe it was received, I did get a comment from um a note from uh Mr. Wiggins, John Wiggins, the city treasurer, um um asking for the um [0:06:33, 0:06:50]: uh the final paperwork for that transaction. I did forward it to him. So Alan, if there's anything remaining pending from the city's perspective that they need to, you know, receive that payment and close the books on that transaction, uh, please let me know. But I believe I've forwarded what he needed. [0:06:50, 0:06:52]: Um the [0:06:52, 0:07:12]: Uh other question, if I can just bring up the topic about the Zoom. So just since we're here and Vanessa's on as well, um I is it Barber, I don't know if you saw my note, but maybe we can I'd rather go ahead and just set it up with our uh debit accounts. So maybe we can set up a time separate from this meeting to uh do that once you're in the office. All right. [0:07:12, 0:07:14]: Right? Yes. Okay. [0:07:15, 0:07:15]: [436.4, 442.0]: And I think that's it for that I had for financial. Any other comments or questions? [0:07:24, 0:07:25]: All right. Thank you for that. [0:07:26, 0:07:35]: Stop sharing. And next item on the agenda is uh secretary updates. Bob, do you have anything to share with the group? Uh no. [0:07:35, 0:07:36]: All right. [0:07:37, 0:07:51]: Are you okay with this uh uh being on the I mean, I know we approved the agenda, but you know, I just kind of have this sort of uh as a regular item on the agenda to touch base with you if you have anything for the group. Are you cool with leaving it on there like that? Yeah, oh absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. [0:07:51, 0:07:59]: All right. And that brings that brings us to the next item, the Main Street Advisory Board updates. So Barber, I'll start with you and we also have Kara with us today. [0:08:00, 0:08:10]: I've been out. So please, please, I would defer to to Kira as I've uh unfortunately had to miss my last two meetings with Main Street. [0:08:10, 0:08:11]: All right, great. [0:08:12, 0:08:21]: Kira, what do you have for the group? Good evening, everyone. Um, I just wanted to um give you all a few notes on [0:08:22, 0:08:27]: um some of our downtown um projects and [0:08:29, 0:08:30]: Um our amphitheater. [0:08:30, 0:08:34]: We have um as you all know um [0:08:34, 0:08:44]: held a grand opening for the downtown amphitheater. We had a sold-out performance for Gladys featuring Gladys Knight and Patty LaBelle. [0:08:44, 0:08:54]: on the um twenty fifth of September. It was a sold out crowd and we um had a ribbon cutting and all of that good stuff. So it was um [0:08:55, 0:09:03]: Very well received, I think, by the Stockbridge community and the visitors that um came into our midst for that particular. [0:09:03, 0:09:06]: event. We have another [0:09:06, 0:09:11]: Um concert that will be hosted in the amphitheater on October the twenty third. [0:09:12, 0:09:14]: Um that will be featuring um [0:09:14, 0:09:17]: The performers Shaka Khan and Freddie Jackson. [0:09:17, 0:09:21]: And tickets are on sale now for that particular. [0:09:21, 0:09:23]: Performance as well. [0:09:23, 0:09:34]: So if you haven't had a chance to um go to a performance, if you weren't able to go to the grand opening, here's your next chance to be able to. [0:09:35, 0:09:38]: Um, see the amphitheater in action. [0:09:38, 0:09:39]: Um also [0:09:40, 0:09:55]: Um with regard to the amphitheater, we've had several um tours that have um gone um through the amphitheater. So the community is also getting um the opportunity to see the amphitheater. [0:09:56, 0:10:04]: In um different tour groups. So we're hoping that the word is getting spread about the amphitheater, how fabulous it is, and um [0:10:05, 0:10:06]: How um [0:10:07, 0:10:11]: It is going to be um a great asset for the community. [0:10:12, 0:10:19]: With regard to um downtown projects, we have the um Ted Strickland uh repurposing project. [0:10:19, 0:10:21]: Um that bid [0:10:21, 0:10:27]: Um has gone out. I think that um Lisa reported that at your last meeting and um [0:10:28, 0:10:32]: The contractor viz site visit was held um [0:10:32, 0:10:39]: in September on the um fourteenth, I think it was. So that bid should be closing very soon. [0:10:40, 0:10:44]: And um a contractor will be selected for the work on that particular building. [0:10:45, 0:10:47]: Uh one fourteen MLK. [0:10:47, 0:10:58]: Um, which is the our white box project. The contractor bid went out on September the 8th, and a contractor site visit was held on October 5th. [0:10:59, 0:11:04]: So the bid that bid will also be coming to a close at the end of this month as well. [0:11:05, 0:11:05]: The [0:11:06, 0:11:08]: Mm um alleyway project. [0:11:08, 0:11:14]: Uh Main Street hosted an Allery Project presentation uh meeting on September the twenty-seventh. [0:11:14, 0:11:34]: It was very well attended. We had the majority of the property owners for the buildings that are on both Burke Street and Martin Luther King Senior Caritage Trail, including representatives from the lodge, the Masonic Lodge, were at this particular meeting. [0:11:34, 0:11:38]: Uh, Falcon design consultants uh provided an overview. [0:11:38, 0:11:43]: of the project and were there to field any questions that [0:11:43, 0:11:49]: folks had with regard to the project. This was our first time really presenting it to um the [0:11:50, 0:11:53]: Property owners who would be impacted by [0:11:53, 0:11:54]: B. [0:11:54, 0:12:02]: Project. So we were very excited to see so many people. I think only um two property owners were not. [0:12:03, 0:12:07]: Um there, but I have talked with one of them since. [0:12:07, 0:12:11]: The uh meeting and have scheduled a time for them to. [0:12:11, 0:12:14]: Come downtown and meet with me to talk about the project. So [0:12:15, 0:12:18]: That leaves only one property owner that we have to [0:12:18, 0:12:22]: um touch so to speak to make sure that they know what we're planning for. [0:12:23, 0:12:24]: Um that project. [0:12:25, 0:12:27]: We are also going to be [0:12:27, 0:12:42]: um meeting with each property owner individually so that we can talk with them about any concerns that they may have and any input that they have with regard to the plans. And then once we have met with everyone, [0:12:42, 0:12:46]: those plans will be finalized and we'll be able to send that project out for be it. [0:12:47, 0:12:50]: And that's about all that I have with regard to [0:12:51, 0:12:53]: Our projects in the downtown area. [0:12:56, 0:12:57]: And that concludes my report. [0:12:59, 0:13:01]: Uh Art looks like you have a question for Kira. [0:13:02, 0:13:04]: Yes, Kira, could you give us the uh [0:13:04, 0:13:10]: Approximate timeframe of the Alloway project going to bid. I know it's gotta go through the process, but [0:13:11, 0:13:12]: Approximate. [0:13:14, 0:13:14]: You muted. [0:13:17, 0:13:17]: You're muted. [0:13:18, 0:13:19]: Sorry about that. [0:13:19, 0:13:21]: Um I [0:13:21, 0:13:28]: Don't want to give a date for a start date because we still have to meet with all of the property owners and [0:13:29, 0:13:34]: We have to get finalized designs um before we can take it to bed. [0:13:34, 0:13:38]: I would like for everything to go to bed before the end of the year. [0:13:38, 0:13:39]: Um [0:13:39, 0:13:49]: But that will just depend on how quickly we can meet with all of the property owners, get their feedback, then get with the um engineers and [0:13:49, 0:13:50]: Get all of that. [0:13:51, 0:13:54]: Stuff completed before we can even put it out to be when the bid. [0:13:54, 0:13:56]: process is about um [0:13:57, 0:13:59]: Two to three months, I think it is. [0:14:00, 0:14:01]: So [0:14:01, 0:14:06]: Um, we're hoping that we can at least start it before the end of the year. [0:14:07, 0:14:08]: Thank you. [0:14:08, 0:14:09]: Mm-hmm. [0:14:11, 0:14:12]: Any other questions for Kira? [0:14:15, 0:14:35]: Um, I I I kind of want to follow up with the sort of with the art's comment. Um, I I know there were, you know, the next step for the alleyway project would be to get, you know, basically sign off from each of the business owners that are impacted by that area. And I know there's been some feedback on, you know, some possible design adjustments to uh what was presented at that meeting. [0:14:35, 0:14:49]: meeting. Do you do you feel optimistic here? Uh I mean, that that's resolvable at this stage? What what what are your thoughts as far as uh you know the concerns that were raised during and after the meeting? [0:14:50, 0:14:51]: Um [0:14:51, 0:14:59]: I would say it's kind of a mixed bag. There were a couple of people who are not in favor of the project at all. [0:14:59, 0:15:04]: Um which was kind of surprising. Um I think that we [0:15:04, 0:15:18]: Um, the fact that we are willing to do something should have been um, or at least I'd hoped would have been incentive to get a lot of at least preliminary buy-in um at that particular meeting, but there were some people who [0:15:19, 0:15:19]: Um [0:15:20, 0:15:20]: Did not [0:15:21, 0:15:22]: Like the project at all. [0:15:23, 0:15:29]: And then but the majority did like the project and felt like it would be an improvement in the um alleyway. [0:15:29, 0:15:35]: There was um some contention about our plan to [0:15:35, 0:15:38]: Um, replace some of the асфальт. [0:15:38, 0:15:43]: that is back there that would have to be torn out um to do some of the [0:15:43, 0:15:44]: Um [0:15:44, 0:15:47]: Drainage work with gravel as opposed to [0:15:47, 0:15:52]: replacing the asphalt and the reason we were going in that direction was so that it would be [0:15:53, 0:15:56]: Um better ready for development. [0:15:56, 0:15:59]: Um, as opposed to having the [0:15:59, 0:16:02]: putting down new asphalt and then having that torn out. [0:16:02, 0:16:08]: If a new development um came along, you know, we have an el economic development director on board now. [0:16:08, 0:16:10]: So um [0:16:10, 0:16:13]: You know, we're trying to aggressively try to get some infill there. [0:16:14, 0:16:19]: But so that's one of the things that we might have to go back to the drawing board on and just see what [0:16:20, 0:16:21]: Um cost [0:16:22, 0:16:27]: would be incurred with placing asphalt there as opposed to the gravel. [0:16:28, 0:16:30]: Um, also [0:16:30, 0:16:37]: There was some um concern about some of the landscaping that we had proposed with regard to. [0:16:37, 0:16:38]: Um the [0:16:39, 0:16:53]: the rears, the rear portions of those buildings up against those buildings. That's something that can be easily eliminated. We just won't do landscaping close to the buildings and maybe not any landscaping at all. Just make it kind of a [0:16:54, 0:16:54]: Um [0:16:55, 0:16:56]: A um [0:16:56, 0:17:00]: Blank surface, so to speak. We'd still do the pavers, but [0:17:00, 0:17:05]: leave out some of the landscaping ideas that were designed into the plan. [0:17:05, 0:17:06]: Um [0:17:06, 0:17:21]: So it's it's gonna have to be some more conversation to make sure that we can get at least the majority of people happy with uh what we'd like to propose. Um, but it is going to be very important. [0:17:21, 0:17:22]: That we get. [0:17:22, 0:17:23]: Um [0:17:24, 0:17:30]: a a large majority of the people on board with it or we won't be able to move forward because of the properties that will be impacted. [0:17:33, 0:17:53]: Thank you. Um I guess a couple of points with that is um is it an all or nothing as far as uh the agreement? Does every business owner have to sign off on it in order to in order to move forward or do you just need a majority or is that kind of are you just kind of I don't know if that's I don't know what the, you know, whether you need to [0:17:52, 0:18:06]: specific approval from each and every owner that's it's really a pro it's really a a courtesy to for the city to even be um you know having these discussions really with the property owners um because [0:18:07, 0:18:26]: In all honesty, that the majority of that property that we wanted to work with belongs to the city. So we could just only be speaking with the people whose properties will actually be impacted as far as us needing to have easement or some sort of access onto their properties. Um so I would say no, but [0:18:26, 0:18:30]: With a project of this magnitude, it would be nice to get. [0:18:30, 0:18:36]: Um the majority of people happ happy with the project and um on board with it. [0:18:36, 0:18:42]: Um, so I don't want to say it's an all or nothing, but if it turns into something that's really contentious. [0:18:43, 0:18:45]: I think that it could threaten the [0:18:45, 0:18:47]: The viability of the project. [0:18:48, 0:18:52]: Surely, surely. And is there anything that the D D A can do to help? [0:18:53, 0:18:58]: um sort of build support in this, you know, to move, you know, to help move the project forward. [0:18:58, 0:19:15]: Um definitely um support the project. Um in its once we have some final drawings, support the project. If you all have relationships with any of those business owners, um please talk to them and um emphasize how. [0:19:15, 0:19:35]: Um important this is for the downtown and creating a more walkable, more um engaging space in the alleyway because our vision was to be able to utilize the alleyway as an extension of those businesses to [0:19:35, 0:19:44]: Make it so that we could even use that space as possible event space and auxiliary. [0:19:44, 0:19:46]: Patio, if you will. [0:19:46, 0:19:52]: So it's very important that this get done because it has been a neglected [0:19:52, 0:19:58]: um property and alleyway for a very long time. And I think that [0:19:58, 0:20:02]: Its unsightliness is a detraction. [0:20:02, 0:20:03]: Um [0:20:03, 0:20:06]: And maybe even a deterrent to um [0:20:06, 0:20:21]: businesses wanting to locate in the downtown because of its unsightliness and um neglect. So I'm hoping that when we after we've talked to all of the business owners and property rather property owners again. [0:20:21, 0:20:25]: And get a baseline of what we need to do to. [0:20:25, 0:20:40]: um correct some of the things that we can correct with regard to the design. If we had host another meeting, it would be great to have DDA members present. And we did have some DDA members present at the meeting that we hosted in September, if we can have [0:20:41, 0:20:48]: um everyone on board, Main Street and DDA to just kind of be that voice of support, I think that that would be helpful. [0:20:49, 0:20:57]: Indeed. And you know, if it helps in any form, um beyond that, like to maybe um ask the board for hold on just a minute. I'm sorry. [0:21:00, 0:21:05]: I can't for you. Sorry, I'm sharing a space with my daughter who's also [0:21:05, 0:21:25]: On a Zoom meeting. That's all right. I was gonna offer is you know, uh once once once we have um, you know, uh like a design that you feel is appropriate to bring to this board, the DDA, for maybe a formal, you know, approval, you know, ask the board to formally uh approve or adopt or resolve to, you know, support the plan if that gives [0:21:25, 0:21:26]: Any kind of um [0:21:26, 0:21:39]: you know, formal support for it. We know I'm I'm happy to, you know, if you want to bring that forward to okay. That sounds good. And I think that that would be helpful because um we need as much support as we can um to get this done. [0:21:39, 0:21:49]: Agreed. All right. Well, thank you for that. Um, all right, so we'll move on to the next item on the agenda, the facade grant updates. Um, Art, do you have anything to update for the group? [0:21:49, 0:21:55]: Yes, and I'm gonna talk to you offline a little bit more, uh Roger, but one great thing about attending [0:21:55, 0:21:56]: They [0:21:57, 0:21:59]: Alleyway project uh meeting. [0:21:59, 0:22:14]: was afterwards, you know, I was interested in in just going back back there and uh Lisa happened to be back there with one of the homeowners, excuse me, the uh business owners. And I asked if I could join, you know, you know, the walkthrough uh, you know, talking about the issues back there. [0:22:14, 0:22:15]: And [0:22:17, 0:22:20]: It's I really saw the need for. [0:22:20, 0:22:26]: moving faster on facade grants. Um this business owner was very interested in that. [0:22:27, 0:22:29]: And um ліса also offered. [0:22:30, 0:22:31]: Uh [0:22:32, 0:22:37]: mentioned that the help that's available, I believe, through DCA in terms of [0:22:37, 0:22:39]: their expertise in [0:22:39, 0:22:43]: Working with those types of projects, uh, design, I believe. [0:22:43, 0:22:44]: Also [0:22:44, 0:22:46]: So that's definitely something [0:22:46, 0:22:47]: Um [0:22:47, 0:22:54]: that I definitely recognize and uh understand the need for to help move move that project along uh quicker. [0:22:54, 0:22:56]: And to get people's buy in. [0:22:56, 0:22:57]: They can say, Hey [0:22:57, 0:23:00]: We can get something that can help spruce up this area. [0:23:00, 0:23:01]: Like for example [0:23:02, 0:23:05]: Uh as Kira was pointing out and the uh [0:23:06, 0:23:07]: The developers um [0:23:08, 0:23:09]: Or the designers. [0:23:09, 0:23:11]: Talking about the importance of those pavers. [0:23:12, 0:23:19]: And you know, there was a little opposition at first, but as they explained it and said how it would be so much better, you know, for a number of reasons. [0:23:19, 0:23:24]: Um you started seeing some people, you know, moved by, you know, after they finally understood, you know. [0:23:25, 0:23:27]: the potential of how it could improve their property. So [0:23:28, 0:23:32]: Um there hasn't been any movement on um on fletchers of course. [0:23:32, 0:23:35]: Um, you know, that's still in his that the bottle's still in his court in terms of [0:23:36, 0:23:42]: whether it are they're choosing to, you know, finish those repairs and submit those for reimbursement. But that's all I have. [0:23:43, 0:23:49]: All right, thank you. Um I guess on the last point, if I well, first of all, any questions for art or any any comments or questions for about the facade grant? [0:23:52, 0:24:12]: Um I I I you know we we did have the opportunity to speak to Mr. Fletcher. He was among the attendees at the uh alleyway project presentation. And um I I think you know my sense of it is that um you know it may require a little bit of just to bring that one to closure, um I think it may require a a [0:24:12, 0:24:28]: visit during business hours when I believe it's his daughter that um kind of helps handle the uh books and may be able to provide the paperwork. Cause I think in his mind he thought he'd turned everything over. And you know what he's uh we we know that what we received were [0:24:28, 0:24:48]: you know, invoices and proposals, but not actual uh pay, you know, receipts showing payment. And so, you know, there is a difference, and we really can't cut a check until we get those receipts. So I would say, you know, if there's any way myself or any of us, you know, on this team can help um, you know, just sort of help move. [0:24:48, 0:24:57]: move move him and and and his uh along so we can bring that to a conclusion. I'd like to see that happen. And the timing of that I think is is helpful both [0:24:57, 0:25:10]: just in general to support the facade grant, but also to uh help um provide some relationship building as it relates to the alleyway project, you know, showing that the city is, you know, meeting its part. [0:25:11, 0:25:12]: Roger. [0:25:12, 0:25:12]: Yes. [0:25:15, 0:25:18]: Just had a quick a quick question. Yes. Um [0:25:20, 0:25:26]: I think where we left it as far as when I was speaking with Mr. Fletcher, it was the [0:25:26, 0:25:30]: um issue with the permitting of the [0:25:30, 0:25:30]: Um [0:25:31, 0:25:34]: painting that had to be done and that had been resolved. [0:25:35, 0:25:46]: So I know that the question had been asked of the D D A about the fees that were associated with that, if it would be covered with the grant. Has he been told that that would be covered or? [0:25:47, 0:25:49]: Is that what some of the [0:25:49, 0:25:52]: Slowdown is or is there something else? [0:25:54, 0:26:14]: It it's hard to say, Art. I don't know if you have any different take on this. My my take is that um there was a there was quite a bit of confusion between the the sign and the sign permit at as it relates to being reimbursed for the work that he did do. Um we're looking at it, you know, the sign was technically never in scope for the facade grant because. [0:26:13, 0:26:27]: because it's it's just signage is not part of the scope. Uh but he did do many other things that are re you know are in scope for the grant, such as the repainting of the building and, you know, anything else that he uh had done in in that relation. So [0:26:28, 0:26:31]: Um I d I know that the I believe the um [0:26:31, 0:26:32]: The um [0:26:33, 0:26:41]: The city council voted to waive the signed fee for Mr. Fletcher to kind of help resolve that issue. [0:26:41, 0:26:46]: Um but you know, I in either case it's not related to the reimbursement for the facade grant. [0:26:47, 0:26:56]: But that's a part of the grant. The the painting of the striping and all of that was a part of the facade grant that he was requesting. [0:26:57, 0:27:01]: So if the that was one of the things that I guess was um [0:27:02, 0:27:04]: One of the slow down [0:27:04, 0:27:06]: One of the reasons for slowdown [0:27:06, 0:27:17]: from his point of view was because the it was unresolved as to whether or not he would have to pay the fees. The signage has been approved. It just has to be painted onto the building. [0:27:18, 0:27:29]: So because it's a being painted as opposed to a standalone signage, um, that's a part of the facade, so it should be covered by the [0:27:29, 0:27:31]: Um grant and [0:27:31, 0:27:35]: It he should be able to move forward, especially if the fees have been waived. [0:27:36, 0:27:56]: Right. Well, you know, that's work that hasn't yet been done. And, you know, in my mind, I'd like to just bring this particular case to a close for the work that was done. He did it. He did do a lot. I mean, you know, they did they repaved, they did a lot of stuff, you know, related and unrelated to the foot facade grant during the renovation that. [0:27:56, 0:28:08]: there. And I'd I'd I'd like to see, you know, let's go ahead and, you know, show receipts, get them reimbursed for the work that was done. And, you know, I think part of the um [0:28:08, 0:28:27]: clarification of the facade grant procedures would be at what point could he could a business owner resubmit for an additional grant if say he does paint the sign at a later time or do something else as far as a facade grant. I don't know whether we're really clear on at what point can [0:28:28, 0:28:48]: you'd be eligible for yet another facade grant sometime later. And isn't the isn't the um the striping a part of this original facade grant? I don't understand why he would have to request another one. Well it didn't get done. You know, I'm I it's been over two years. But the reason [0:28:48, 0:28:55]: It wasn't done was because of the slowdown with regard to the fees, from what I understand. So now that council has voted. [0:28:55, 0:28:57]: For the fees to be waived. [0:28:57, 0:29:05]: Maybe he needs to be um spoken with again to say, hey, there are no fees associated with this. Go on and paint your striping. [0:29:06, 0:29:07]: I'll I'll definitely say that [0:29:07, 0:29:09]: That signage. [0:29:09, 0:29:10]: Is like [0:29:10, 0:29:11]: One of the main [0:29:12, 0:29:14]: uh features of that [0:29:15, 0:29:19]: That facade being, you know, redone. Yeah. Right. [0:29:20, 0:29:30]: I agree. It was very attractive in its per in the mock up. Yes. Well I'll I'll definitely and whoever would like to, you know, go with me, I'll definitely go by the Fletchers this week. [0:29:30, 0:29:31]: А то спеквит. [0:29:32, 0:29:33]: Uh because like like I said that [0:29:34, 0:29:36]: That signage, it was beautiful, and that's the type of [0:29:37, 0:29:39]: signage that we would want in that area. [0:29:39, 0:29:46]: Um and then it through the breeze way. Uh so I'll definitely go by there this week to talk to them about it. [0:29:47, 0:29:50]: to the whole look and feel of the building and that corner. So [0:29:51, 0:29:54]: I would like for him to be encouraged to go on and [0:29:54, 0:29:56]: Paint it so that [0:29:56, 0:30:02]: But I think asking him to do another process would just totally turn him off. [0:30:02, 0:30:08]: Well, I mean some I'm guessing at that, but I'm thinking that that probably would not be ideal. [0:30:08, 0:30:15]: I I I I hear you and I agree with you. I just I'm concerned that he may be unwilling to [0:30:17, 0:30:21]: put out more money into the project when there's already been [0:30:23, 0:30:43]: whatever perception of hassle for what he felt he was promised to begin with. So that that's why I was kind of thinking, well, can we just bring what he's done to a close and um, you know, put it back on him. But, you know, either way is fine. Um, I just I really would like to bring this to to some form of closure. [0:30:42, 0:30:51]: Ideally with the with the sine mural painted is is the best option. Yes, I agree, but that's assuming he's willing to do that. [0:30:52, 0:30:52]: Okay. [0:30:54, 0:31:00]: I'll definitely bring back an update on and I'll do it before the meeting, but especially for the next meeting also. [0:31:01, 0:31:01]: Great. [0:31:02, 0:31:12]: Okay, well thank you for that. All right. Uh anything uh we'll move on to the next item. So city staff updates. Uh Mr. Peterson. Thanks for uh thanks for joining. [0:31:13, 0:31:17]: Oh no problem. Um good evening everyone. Uh my update [0:31:18, 0:31:24]: Is about the business recruitment and retention committee. Uh we had our first meeting on [0:31:24, 0:31:34]: the fourth of October that was the first Monday of this month. We meet again on Monday, November the first at six o'clock. Um we discussed [0:31:34, 0:31:39]: Uh a lot of things and I emailed the notes to the committee members. [0:31:39, 0:31:50]: Uh so next meeting, uh hopefully we have some suggestions and some follow-ups to those notes that are in in red. But um the meeting went well and I look forward to working with [0:31:50, 0:31:51]: with the committee. [0:31:56, 0:31:59]: All right. Anything anything else, uh, Alan for the group? [0:32:00, 0:32:03]: Uh that that's about it for right now. Just the BRR report. [0:32:04, 0:32:04]: Okay. [0:32:05, 0:32:22]: Um I did I did have a chance to review the notes and I have a couple of uh comments or questions. Um the under um section five C acquire marketing data. There's a note there that marketing data will marketing data will be acquired through the DDA marketing plan. Is that [0:32:23, 0:32:30]: Was that accurate? Uh I because I'm not familiar that there's any effort on the DDA's part to develop a marketing plan. [0:32:30, 0:32:36]: Well i it was it was it was the marketing plan that goes along with the that master plan. [0:32:37, 0:32:39]: That's what I was referring to. [0:32:40, 0:32:49]: Um but if um Oh the the the market study. Okay. I got you. The market study, yeah. The the market study is what I'm gonna do. [0:32:49, 0:33:04]: All right. Um let's see. And then what to under additional tasks. There's two two questions under there that I had there. It says request for information, but I wasn't clear what the RFI would be for. [0:33:05, 0:33:22]: Uh the RFI is is for investors. I usually when they look at a community, they request um RFI and in that we'll just have information about the community, incentives, and things of that nature. So I I think everyone's involved in that task. Is that correct? It should be uh DDA. [0:33:23, 0:33:35]: Um well the committee, economic development and community development. Community development is there because they play a huge part in the incentives. [0:33:35, 0:33:37]: So in the RFI. [0:33:38, 0:33:39]: In the RFI. [0:33:40, 0:33:40]: Um [0:33:41, 0:33:46]: A large part is is the incentives that we offer to attract to attract investors. [0:33:47, 0:34:03]: Okay, so what and just to make sure I understand it correctly, this would be a request for information that would be posted by the potential investors requesting information of the city, mainstream and DDA to respond. We're the respondents. [0:34:03, 0:34:14]: Yeah, we we would we would we would provide it. I'm gonna send a template similar to the way I did for the business recruitment and retention program. Yes. Yeah. I I'm gonna I'm gonna work on a template. [0:34:14, 0:34:17]: for the RFI. So um [0:34:18, 0:34:20]: So we'll have a better understanding and I'll have that. [0:34:21, 0:34:21]: At the next meeting. [0:34:22, 0:34:23]: That's great. [0:34:23, 0:34:28]: Mm-hmm. And the last just I didn't understand the acronym B R E program. What does that say for? [0:34:29, 0:34:30]: Business recruitment in [0:34:30, 0:34:31]: And uh [0:34:32, 0:34:33]: Business recruitment and retention. [0:34:33, 0:34:35]: Okay. The R R program. [0:34:39, 0:34:50]: Or did I put the BRE program? It says BRE and I I wasn't I didn't uh I wasn't sure what that okay business recruitment and expansion. And I sent yeah, I sent that template. [0:34:51, 0:34:54]: Uh with the with the agenda and all the documents. [0:34:56, 0:34:56]: Right. [0:34:57, 0:35:01]: So if if if you all could if the committee could review that and [0:35:01, 0:35:05]: I'm I'm taking all suggestions pertaining to that program. [0:35:05, 0:35:06]: And we'll discuss that again. [0:35:07, 0:35:08]: At the [0:35:08, 0:35:10]: At the uh November first meeting. [0:35:11, 0:35:15]: All right. So we'll we have that template and I'll provide an RFI template as well. [0:35:17, 0:35:21]: Excellent. Anyone else have comments or questions for Alan? [0:35:23, 0:35:43]: All right, we'll move on to uh uh council McGantt is not um uh present, so we'll move on to the there's no new business to discuss on the agenda. So uh old business, uh downtown strategic work plan. Uh Alan mentioned uh one of the committee assignments. Uh I also [0:35:43, 0:36:03]: So uh was I'm leading the uh Tourism Development Committee and we did meet uh late in September. And basically we just kind of introduced the committee, the tasks that were associated with it, and established the committee. So there's not a lot to report there other than the fact that we've met, we've established the committee, and then we [0:36:03, 0:36:23]: We we shared the task and I've asked for feedback from the committee as far as uh who the appropriate assignees are for each of the tasks and appropriate timelines. So I'll probably have more substantive to report in our next meeting regarding that. Um any any comments or questions on any of the committees? And I know, Kiri, you've you've scheduled the [0:36:23, 0:36:43]: the ones that you're leading as well for starting a number. Yes, and I just wanted to um just comment that Main Street staff has been just extremely busy in September and turns out in October as well. So we were unable to host our work plan committees that we are um lead um designated [0:36:42, 0:36:52]: lead on. So um we weren't able to host those as we had hoped in the month of October. But new dates um have been sent out to [0:36:52, 0:37:03]: um to committee members as you've mentioned. Um but just wanted to say that downtown connectivity and design has been scheduled for November 2nd for our first meeting at 6 p.m. [0:37:04, 0:37:12]: And then the downtown beautification and activation um meeting is gonna be on a Wednesday, November the 10th. [0:37:12, 0:37:25]: And again, I've sent those um meeting invitations out to those people who have signed up for those particular committees. And I'm looking forward to meeting, going over our task list. [0:37:25, 0:37:30]: And um getting feedback. So I'll be able to report something at our next meeting, hopefully. [0:37:31, 0:37:31]: Right. [0:37:31, 0:37:47]: And and I'm I'll go ahead and mention, and this goes for I think all of the committees, um, we're you know, each of the bo e uh every one of the uh Main Street NDDA members were asked to um, you know, participate in at least one of the committees. But I I do wanna say [0:37:48, 0:37:58]: All the committees are open to anyone who wishes to participate or to attend. I think the only caveat I would throw in there would be to um [0:37:58, 0:38:01]: uh just if it's going to cause a quorum. [0:38:02, 0:38:22]: for either the DDA or the Main Street just to you know be careful because then it becomes subject to open records laws and we would have to you know uh publish the meet you know do all that stuff so um but if any of you are interested in another committee and just uh hearing or participating uh in something other than the one you were assigned contact myself [0:38:21, 0:38:24]: Kira or Alan and we'll be happy to include you. [0:38:27, 0:38:47]: All right. Um I have uh administrative zoo zoom storage increase as the next item. Um just basically we've increased our zoom storage for this uh service here. We had um it it kind of doubled the cost, which I was a little frustrated with, but because we only have one meeting a month, but okay. [0:38:47, 0:39:07]: That's that's that was this the that was their price point. That's how they get the people, I guess. But um so that's been done and um and we'll take care of that. But um the next item, and so thank you to the board for uh uh supporting that uh expense. So the um main item I wanted to touch on today for everyone's uh vote. [0:39:06, 0:39:26]: And approval is the uh updated DDA bylaws. So uh special thanks to Samequa and Bob and our attorney who has helped us. We've met uh uh several times to go over the existing bylaws and sort of uh weed through the areas that um we felt needed update. Uh a lot of this was spotted. [0:39:26, 0:39:46]: respond by the um there was a requirement in the uh current in our current set of bylaws that um that we had to um uh name a recording secretary, but then it wasn't clear as to whether that recording secretary is or is not a board member or whether that role could be served by the existing [0:39:46, 0:39:58]: voted secretary. So it was very ambiguous. And that's what kind of caused us to look at the bylaws and then clean up some of the other language. So um I've shared the um [0:39:58, 0:40:18]: the the uh the draft, the proposed draft with uh everyone on uh October the thirteenth. You should have received it via email. Uh I'm happy to share it on the screen and we can go through it line by line or we can just uh go directly to move to vote. Um I'll kind of open it up for general discussion if anyone has any preference on how to uh [0:40:18, 0:40:29]: proceed with approving uh consideration for approving the bylaws. Um any thoughts on that? This is the uh these are the these are the bylaws. There's a lot of legalese, obviously, but uh [0:40:30, 0:40:36]: Um any did any I but I guess I'll ask did everyone have the opportunity to review them and are there any questions? [0:40:37, 0:40:37]: Yeah. [0:40:41, 0:40:41]: No. [0:40:41, 0:40:46]: I think we can just vote on them since we've had two board members and our attorney. [0:40:47, 0:40:54]: Um and and had a few days to look at it ourselves, I'll be okay with just voting on it instead of going line by line. [0:40:54, 0:40:54]: All right. [0:40:56, 0:41:00]: Does anyone need more time to review it? I'll I guess ask the question that way. [0:41:01, 0:41:03]: I know we all have other commitments and [0:41:05, 0:41:21]: Okay, not hearing any, then uh I'll go ahead and make the motion that we adopt the uh revised uh DDA bylaws um as presented and shared with the uh group on um the that was sent to the group uh to the DDA board on October the thirteenth. [0:41:24, 0:41:25]: A second. [0:41:27, 0:41:30]: Roger barber second. [0:41:31, 0:41:36]: Any um any discussion or comments, questions from anyone? [0:41:40, 0:41:45]: Okay, hearing none, seeing none. Um looking for some equal. [0:41:46, 0:42:06]: Samik, were you still with us? I'm here, yes. Oh, good. I didn't sorry. I didn't see you on the list for a second. Uh all right. So we will uh we will do this by uh by vote. So all those in favor of adopting the revised uh bylaws, please uh raise your hand in approval. Yes. And I hear yes from Samik. [0:42:06, 0:42:11]: Equa and I see uh art barbas and my hand. Um [0:42:11, 0:42:31]: Bob, are you still with us? Yes. Okay. And Bob is yes. All right. So we have a unanimous approval. Thank you all for your support on that. And thank you again to the uh committee, uh Samiquan Bob, for all the work that you did on that. That's um, I think it's a much cleaner outcome. And that is the last item on the agenda. [0:42:31, 0:42:35]: agenda for today. I'll open it up for general discussions or questions from anyone. [0:42:39, 0:42:43]: Has anybody heard anything about how the the restaurant is going? [0:42:46, 0:42:47]: I have not said. [0:42:48, 0:42:55]: Has uh I don't know Alan if you or or even Kira if you would hear anything from the Sylvain project. [0:42:59, 0:43:01]: I have not heard anything. [0:43:01, 0:43:01]: Yeah. [0:43:02, 0:43:05]: I know the city is still using it as storage. [0:43:07, 0:43:11]: Which you know, I found odd they don't own the property anymore. [0:43:13, 0:43:17]: I s I saw some activity. I don't think that they're supposed to be. [0:43:17, 0:43:22]: I think that um there were some things put in there unbeknownst to [0:43:22, 0:43:23]: Um [0:43:23, 0:43:25]: I guess the [0:43:25, 0:43:27]: City manager who had the [0:43:28, 0:43:30]: The space cleaned out prior. [0:43:30, 0:43:38]: Um, to them taking possession of the building. I think some things were put in there, thinking that it was still okay to put stuff in there. [0:43:38, 0:43:39]: All right. [0:43:39, 0:43:57]: I think I noticed activity it was w the day of the amphitheater, the day before, day after. It was right around their the grand opening of the amphitheater. I noticed the, you know, the door was open and they were getting stuff in and I was like, okay, that's city staff. That's not their property anymore. [0:43:57, 0:44:04]: Yeah, that that was observed and I think it's been um mentioned. So hopefully they're taking some action with that. [0:44:06, 0:44:08]: [2650.0, 2664.5]: Maybe the new owner needs to change the locks. But all right. No, I'd rather like I'd rather see, you know, obviously something go up there. But uh yeah, I come bob, thank you for asking that. I had the same question. Yeah, I'm just now that we have got the amphitheater open and so I'm I'm you know, um [0:44:25, 0:44:28]: Anxious to see that uh completed. [0:44:28, 0:44:29]: That's right. Restaurant. [0:44:30, 0:44:35]: I think we all are. Any other questions or comments before we close? [0:44:38, 0:44:45]: Okay, seeing none seeing none and hearing none, I will um I'll go ahead and make the motion to adjourn the meeting. Um [0:44:45, 0:44:46]: Anyone want a second? [0:44:47, 0:45:07]: Second. Okay. That was I heard it from Bob first. Bob second. Roger motion. All right. All those in favor, raise your hand. And I hear a yes from Samequa. All right. We are closing the meeting at 646 PM. Thank you all for your time and your service to the city. [0:45:07, 0:45:13]: Have a great evening. Bye-bye. You too, boy. Thank you. Good night, everyone. Good night. Thank you. Good night. [0:45:14, 0:45:15]: Good night.

--- title: November 8 2021 City Council Meeting date: 2021-11-08 source: 2021-11-08_November_8_2021_City_Council_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:49, 0:00:51]: Good evening, everyone. [0:00:54, 0:00:55]: Good evening to you. [0:00:55, 0:00:56]: Good evening. [0:00:59, 0:01:00]: Um [0:01:03, 0:01:06]: Testing, testing, testing. Can you hear me? [0:01:06, 0:01:08]: Yeah, absolutely. We hear you loud and clear. [0:01:13, 0:01:19]: Okay. Mayor, can you hear me? Yes, I hear you. You're good. I hear you. Okay, yeah. Okay, that's [0:01:23, 0:01:24]: You should be good. [0:01:53, 0:01:57]: Alrighty, so what do we have here? We've got [0:01:58, 0:02:02]: Okay, five. [0:02:05, 0:02:06]: I think [0:02:27, 0:02:28]: Okay. [0:02:31, 0:02:37]: Our folks are looking for a quorum and uh for our attorneys as well. [0:02:39, 0:02:40]: Okay. [0:02:50, 0:02:54]: Mm-hmm. [0:03:02, 0:03:07]: We're now recording on Facebook Live as well. Just so you know that, ladies and gentlemen. [0:03:23, 0:03:24]: Mm-hmm. [0:03:29, 0:03:30]: Alrighty. [0:03:34, 0:03:35]: Mm. [0:03:36, 0:03:36]: Mm-hmm. [0:03:41, 0:03:46]: Well, we're still missing. We don't have a quorum yet and we're still missing our attorney. [0:03:53, 0:03:55]: Okay. [0:04:06, 0:04:09]: Uh, Mr. Washington's there, I see his uh name. [0:04:09, 0:04:11]: Okay, Washington Sierra. [0:04:12, 0:04:19]: Okay, Debbie. Good afternoon. How are you doing, Ms. Washington? Good one. How are you? All righty, sir. Okay, Mr. Thomas popped in. All right. [0:04:22, 0:04:25]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, I'll say that uh we have [0:04:26, 0:04:28]: Okay, let's see here. [0:04:33, 0:04:34]: Alrighty. [0:04:35, 0:04:41]: All right, I'd like to call the council meeting for November eighth, uh, two thousand twenty-one. I am six oh one. [0:04:41, 0:04:44]: And I'd like to call the meeting to order on that note. [0:04:44, 0:04:47]: Chief Tremor, sir, can you give the invocation, please? [0:04:49, 0:04:51]: Absolutely. Thank you, Mayor. We can all bow our heads. [0:04:52, 0:04:55]: Heavenly Father, we come to you today asking for your guidance. [0:04:56, 0:04:57]: For your wisdom. [0:04:57, 0:04:59]: And for your support as we begin this meeting. [0:05:00, 0:05:02]: Help us to engage in meaningful discussion. [0:05:03, 0:05:05]: Allow us to grow closer as a group. [0:05:06, 0:05:07]: And to nurture our bonds of community. [0:05:08, 0:05:10]: Dear Lord, we thank you for our veterans. [0:05:11, 0:05:17]: Uh we thank you for the worthy men and women who gave their best and were called upon to serve and protect this great country. [0:05:18, 0:05:21]: We pray that you will bless them for their unselfish service. [0:05:21, 0:05:26]: In the continual struggle struggle to preserve our freedoms, our safety. [0:05:26, 0:05:28]: And our country's heritage for us all. [0:05:29, 0:05:31]: We ask Father that you fill this with your grace. [0:05:33, 0:05:34]: Lord God, we [0:05:35, 0:05:40]: Ask that you help us make decisions that might affect all those who live, work, and play in this community. [0:05:40, 0:05:42]: And continue to remind us. [0:05:42, 0:05:44]: That all we do here today. [0:05:44, 0:05:46]: All that we accomplished. [0:05:46, 0:05:48]: It's for the pursuit of truth. [0:05:48, 0:05:50]: For the greater glory of you. [0:05:50, 0:05:52]: And for the service of humanity. [0:05:52, 0:05:55]: We ask all these things in your heavenly name. [0:05:56, 0:05:57]: Amen. Amen. [0:05:58, 0:06:02]: Okay, need to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance, please. [0:06:04, 0:06:18]: I pledge allegiance. Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic to stand one nation under God, individual liberty and justice for all. [0:06:22, 0:06:29]: And um on that note, I'll need the um an actual roll call, by the way. Um Madam Clerk, please. [0:06:31, 0:06:33]: Yes, Mayor Ford. Present. [0:06:34, 0:06:35]: May I approach him Alexander? [0:06:36, 0:06:38]: Present. Councilwoman Barber. [0:06:38, 0:06:39]: That's it. [0:06:39, 0:06:40]: Councilman Blount. [0:06:42, 0:06:43]: Present. [0:06:44, 0:06:45]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:06:48, 0:06:53]: Let the record reflect Councilwoman Gantt is not in attendance. Councilman Thomas. [0:06:53, 0:06:54]: Roger. [0:06:54, 0:06:55]: Mayor Ford, you have a quorum. [0:06:56, 0:06:57]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate that. [0:06:57, 0:07:00]: Council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda. [0:07:02, 0:07:03]: Mayor. Yes, sir. [0:07:04, 0:07:07]: I like to move I move. [0:07:07, 0:07:11]: To amend the agenda to remove item eleven. [0:07:12, 0:07:12]: Twell. [0:07:13, 0:07:14]: Fourteen [0:07:15, 0:07:16]: And fifteen. [0:07:17, 0:07:21]: To allow for vendors to present updates. [0:07:21, 0:07:26]: timelines and status of all associated projects. [0:07:26, 0:07:31]: uh at the um november thirtieth work session [0:07:31, 0:07:33]: And I would also ask [0:07:33, 0:07:35]: If council is willing [0:07:35, 0:07:37]: To uh consent. [0:07:37, 0:07:48]: uh to those items coming forward. And if I need to explain a little bit more, I'm willing to do that. But I move to uh to table those uh agenda items. [0:07:49, 0:07:50]: Is there a second? [0:07:53, 0:07:53]: Is there a second? [0:07:54, 0:08:08]: I'll second that, but there are a couple of other items that I want to table as well. Do I make a separate? Yes, make a separate. Make a separate because he already made one motion. So you second that. Okay. So all in favor of that motion, please indicate. [0:08:10, 0:08:13]: Please please read those motions out, please. [0:08:15, 0:08:16]: I [0:08:16, 0:08:17]: To a man [0:08:18, 0:08:20]: Agenda items. [0:08:20, 0:08:22]: Number eleven. [0:08:23, 0:08:24]: Twelve. [0:08:24, 0:08:26]: Fourteen, fifteen. [0:08:27, 0:08:30]: to allow for vendors to present [0:08:31, 0:08:34]: Updates, timeline, and status of all [0:08:35, 0:08:38]: projects at the uh work session meeting. [0:08:39, 0:08:54]: Mayor, if you would like, I I uh I I can explain the motion. Uh if if you if you allow if that would help clarify if that'll help you. I just want the public to understand what they are. There's nothing on this screen to tell the public what that is. [0:08:55, 0:08:55]: Okay. [0:08:56, 0:08:58]: Well, mayor, if I may just let me just say [0:08:59, 0:09:01]: before us, before the council. [0:09:01, 0:09:04]: There are several um [0:09:05, 0:09:08]: contracts that we are scheduled to approve tonight. [0:09:09, 0:09:10]: And I find it [0:09:11, 0:09:12]: You know [0:09:13, 0:09:15]: For me not to be able to approve [0:09:16, 0:09:17]: А the contract [0:09:18, 0:09:19]: With the language [0:09:20, 0:09:21]: На спинки [0:09:22, 0:09:23]: Uh updates. [0:09:24, 0:09:27]: Timelines and status and as you know. [0:09:27, 0:09:29]: There are a couple of vendors. [0:09:29, 0:09:33]: One contract has 19 projects, one has fifteen. [0:09:34, 0:09:52]: And you know, going back, we we have no updates, we have no status, we have no timeline when they will be uh concluded. So I just think going forward, uh the language in these contracts that we are going to approve. [0:09:52, 0:09:53]: I think [0:09:53, 0:09:55]: Those concerns. [0:09:55, 0:09:57]: need to be included. [0:09:58, 0:10:03]: Uh in this contract for us to approve, understanding that we need to understand. [0:10:04, 0:10:17]: Um, you know, we need to be able to see uh updates, timelines, and and and current status uh as we go forward, as these projects move forward. This is the information that the council. [0:10:17, 0:10:22]: need to be abreast of in going forward with all of the projects that we have on the books. [0:10:23, 0:10:43]: Okay, let me say this. Number 11 was council consideration to approve continuation of contract that deals with the engineering services, Falcon Design, Consultant Services. Number 12, Council consideration approved continuation of contract. Public Works Department requesting approval to continue to continue utilizing RFP number. Uh what [0:10:43, 0:11:03]: number here engineering services with uh scatter systems and that deals with the contract Carter and SLU. Uh council number 14 is council consideration approved contract renewal um and this is reference to renewing the contract uh for the in reference to keck and wood involving development the community development uh construction project [0:11:03, 0:11:20]: project manager Kekin Wood. And number 16, excuse me, number 15 dealt with council consideration approved continuance of contract and involves a finance department in reference to an RFP. And that deals with Intodev Technologies LLC. Those what those highlights are. [0:11:20, 0:11:25]: Okay. A motion has been made in a second. All approval uh all approved the motion, please indicate. [0:11:26, 0:11:32]: Okay, and it seemed like Mr. Okay, Mr. Blount? May I uh I have a question. [0:11:33, 0:11:34]: Well [0:11:35, 0:11:38]: Okay, you when you get a person check or you have a question? [0:11:39, 0:11:40]: What's the question, sir? [0:11:41, 0:11:47]: Well, I'm looking at I'm I'm looking at the um the different um [0:11:48, 0:11:50]: Um calls for [0:11:50, 0:11:51]: Tabling. [0:11:52, 0:12:03]: Um my my concern now is when we look at I'm looking at number eleven, which is Falcon Design. And we're looking at tabling um [0:12:04, 0:12:06]: This renewal [0:12:06, 0:12:10]: Based on nineteen projects already been in depth then with this company. [0:12:11, 0:12:12]: Uh with Falcon Design. [0:12:13, 0:12:14]: Um [0:12:15, 0:12:16]: My concern is that [0:12:17, 0:12:24]: Um, if there is any updates needed to be done, we you know, with the with the dynamics of things that just happened with the removal of our [0:12:25, 0:12:33]: Um, past city manager, uh, one of the things we do, and I think the council does need updates on what's going on with the projects at hand. [0:12:34, 0:12:35]: But how do we [0:12:36, 0:12:56]: Justify moving these projects forward when we're not renewing a contract on a company that has nineteen projects already in uh progress. But what's gonna happen is that part of the motion deals with uh reviewing these uh on the third uh next work sessions the thirtieth this month. And then between today and the um and well we'll say say tomorrow and the thirtieth, you'll be getting updates. [0:12:56, 0:13:00]: to be tasked to do that in this aspect. Gotta have to happen. [0:13:00, 0:13:02]: Mr. Thomas Gabe, please. [0:13:02, 0:13:08]: I I I I do wanna state that uh I am in favor of Falcon and I'm in favor of the contracts. [0:13:08, 0:13:12]: Uh, I don't want to folks to misunderstand that I'm not in favor of the contract. [0:13:13, 0:13:15]: I am in favor of the contract. [0:13:15, 0:13:17]: But I just think the language. [0:13:18, 0:13:20]: In the contract. [0:13:20, 0:13:22]: Не то спіть ту. [0:13:22, 0:13:39]: uh updates, timeline, and status. And I think that is important for council to be informed. You know, here we are getting ready to approve a contract and we don't know the status of a project. And I won't get into any individual project, but [0:13:40, 0:14:00]: You know, there are projects that's been on this list going on now two years and and you know, we just don't have information. We don't know updates, we don't know when it's gonna conclude, et cetera, et cetera. But I just think for us as a council to make sure we're doing our due diligence and folks are being accountable. [0:13:59, 0:14:13]: So, you know, us as a council, staff, and our vendors, we all need to be accountable in going forward and making sure that we are doing all that we can do to be efficient. [0:14:14, 0:14:22]: And effective legislators. And I just think we need this information in order for us to be efficient and effective. [0:14:24, 0:14:27]: All right. Hopefully Councilman Blount that answers your question as well. [0:14:28, 0:14:34]: Well I think uh uh mayor, if you will, I I think that what what uh Councilman Thomas just said [0:14:35, 0:14:39]: It's something I think we all want. And what also what he said in that is that [0:14:40, 0:14:43]: You know, I just don't want us to continue tabling uh [0:14:44, 0:14:50]: Uh doing a lot of tabling when we can handle the handle it here. If there's a contingency on this contract to put in [0:14:50, 0:14:52]: Put other language in. [0:14:52, 0:14:57]: uh to approve this contract with that contingency with that language to be put in and if there's a dispute. [0:14:58, 0:15:01]: with that language being put in and then we bring that back to the council. [0:15:02, 0:15:08]: But there's not a dispute for that being put in, then why are we continuing the table in something we could take care of tonight? [0:15:08, 0:15:09]: That's my only concern. [0:15:10, 0:15:13]: All right. Uh stand by Councilman Thomas. Councilman Barber, you had your hand up. [0:15:15, 0:15:22]: Yes, um I believe the purpose is so that we can get status updates from those specific [0:15:22, 0:15:23]: Contractors. [0:15:24, 0:15:28]: I would prefer that they come here and report it to us. [0:15:28, 0:15:31]: If they don't want to give us status updates at the meetings. [0:15:32, 0:15:33]: That information [0:15:33, 0:15:34]: Should be [0:15:34, 0:15:36]: Um forwarded to us. [0:15:36, 0:15:38]: Directly from the city manager. [0:15:38, 0:15:40]: But because we don't have a city manager. [0:15:40, 0:15:42]: We need updates to them. [0:15:42, 0:15:54]: Counseling also mentioned about once we get those status updates, then we can add all of these contracts to a consent agenda to approve them at our next meeting. [0:15:55, 0:15:56]: It's my understanding. [0:15:56, 0:15:58]: I will tell you that. [0:15:58, 0:15:59]: Fire. [0:15:59, 0:16:01]: At the end of December. [0:16:02, 0:16:03]: So we still have time. [0:16:04, 0:16:18]: Well, I would tell you that each one of these contracts, these individual contracts, these individuals are online right now to give an update if that was the desire of the council in this aspect. Now, but they are available. They're online at this point. Uh Councilman Thomas, go ahead, please. Well [0:16:19, 0:16:23]: For an example, um, there are nineteen projects with with Falcon. [0:16:24, 0:16:42]: I I don't think it's is it's time-wise to let them go through all 19 projects here tonight. And let me also say that the current contract does not end until December. So it's not like they're not going to continue working. [0:16:42, 0:16:46]: All I'm saying is that we're just moving the approval. [0:16:46, 0:16:50]: of the contract going forward for twenty twenty two, if you will. [0:16:50, 0:16:53]: Just a few weeks from now, but I just think that [0:16:53, 0:17:10]: uh the the the the issue that i'm raising is just to have more information updates timeline and status and that that's the only difference the work will continue i'm in favor of falcon uh without a doubt but i just think the language [0:17:11, 0:17:21]: The language in the contract need to spell out those specific things so that the council can be informed. [0:17:23, 0:17:28]: All right, so be it. Any other comments before we finalize this vote here and move on. [0:17:29, 0:17:32]: Motion was made was seconded. So all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:17:34, 0:17:36]: Okay, okay. [0:17:36, 0:17:37]: Uh Mr. Blount. [0:17:38, 0:17:42]: You oppose? You abstain. So 301, motion passed. [0:17:42, 0:17:43]: All right. [0:17:43, 0:17:47]: Councilman Barber, you had another amendment to the to the agenda, I believe. [0:17:48, 0:17:51]: Yes, I wanted to table [0:17:51, 0:17:54]: Items sixteen and seventeen. [0:17:55, 0:17:56]: That is [0:17:56, 0:17:58]: Um the council consideration to approve. [0:17:59, 0:18:04]: Police department job descriptions, organizational chart, and paying classifications. [0:18:04, 0:18:06]: And number seven teen. [0:18:06, 0:18:09]: Council consideration to approve the purchase of [0:18:09, 0:18:10]: Police department vehicles. [0:18:12, 0:18:14]: Um and if necessary, we can do a [0:18:14, 0:18:15]: Special call meeting. [0:18:16, 0:18:17]: Later this week. [0:18:17, 0:18:19]: There are some additional questions. [0:18:19, 0:18:20]: That um [0:18:21, 0:18:22]: I have and I know. [0:18:22, 0:18:25]: Other council members may have questions as well. [0:18:27, 0:18:29]: I well, all right. Is there a second to this particular? [0:18:30, 0:18:30]: A motion. [0:18:31, 0:18:33]: Uh Councilman Blount, you second that motion. [0:18:33, 0:18:34]: Yes, sir. [0:18:34, 0:18:34]: All right. [0:18:35, 0:18:37]: Okay, all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:18:38, 0:18:44]: Mayor, can can I have the discussion first? Yeah, you go ahead, sir. Discussion. Go ahead, please. [0:18:44, 0:18:48]: Uh I I I'd like to get uh Chief Tremor to sort of [0:18:49, 0:18:51]: respond to some of that um [0:18:52, 0:19:02]: I I did have a a brief conversation with him and and it's no excuse, but you know, I've been a s a little down, didn't get a chance to review. [0:19:02, 0:19:08]: Um the agenda packet, it was rather lengthy. It's a lot of information to digest. [0:19:09, 0:19:12]: And I tried to do a quick conversation with him and [0:19:12, 0:19:16]: There were some some concerns that came out of that. So Chief, do you want to [0:19:18, 0:19:18]: Oh [0:19:19, 0:19:21]: Do do you want to speak now or? [0:19:23, 0:19:30]: I'd be glad to. I know we didn't have an opportunity to um discuss in length, but as it relates to item sixteen. [0:19:30, 0:19:37]: Uh the council consideration to approve police department job descriptions orb chart and pay classifications. [0:19:37, 0:19:40]: Um that's a very broad uh proposal. [0:19:40, 0:19:47]: And um what we're looking for most immediately is council approval to bring on four positions. [0:19:48, 0:19:51]: to assist with the implementation of the police department. [0:19:51, 0:20:01]: Um we don't have to assess every job description and uh pay classification at this moment, but I can tell you that there was conversation with Miss Wheeler. [0:20:01, 0:20:07]: where we have done a salary study to make sure that these salaries are in alignment with uh the current salaries. [0:20:07, 0:20:09]: And um [0:20:09, 0:20:12]: Really the the the key thing is we have a lot of work to do here. [0:20:13, 0:20:18]: Um and there's a lot of heavy lifting that's going to be required to move this department forward. [0:20:18, 0:20:29]: And um, you know, it's it's important to get some people on initially to be able to divide a lot of the responsibilities in order to make sure that we meet our July one timeframe. [0:20:30, 0:20:37]: And as it relates to item 17 regarding the acquisition of vehicles, I just want to impress upon council the urgency of this purchase. [0:20:37, 0:20:41]: Uh you all know that there's a supply chain shortage for vehicles. [0:20:41, 0:20:53]: And um this is something that needs to be decided on um very quickly in order to be able to receive these vehicles in enough time to be able to meet our July one timeframe. [0:20:53, 0:21:03]: And the only thing that I would like for you to consider is that if we do not make that mark of July one, we are not receiving the full rollback from the county, uh the two million dollars nearly in taxes. [0:21:03, 0:21:14]: And we will have to arrange probably for some sort of service delivery strategy or agreement with Henry County PD to continue services because I'm confident that if we don't make a decision on the vehicle in the next week or two. [0:21:14, 0:21:23]: That we will be be be behind such that it will delay us in implementation of the department on July one. So I just wanted [0:21:23, 0:21:28]: Wanted everybody to be fully aware of the uh repercussions of delaying these decisions. [0:21:30, 0:21:36]: All right. Uh Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. So let me ask you this if I may. So [0:21:37, 0:21:40]: Um agenda item [0:21:44, 0:21:45]: Sixteen [0:21:45, 0:21:48]: If we table that until um [0:21:49, 0:21:52]: A special call meeting or a work session. [0:21:52, 0:21:55]: Well, that would that sort of suffice. [0:21:55, 0:21:56]: Um [0:21:57, 0:22:02]: in in your uh a gen in your plan to move forward. [0:22:02, 0:22:05]: I I do understand about the vehicles. [0:22:05, 0:22:21]: Uh but just going back to and the vehicles is agenda item 17. 16 is the uh department job description, organization chart, et cetera, et cetera. So if we table 16 and went forward with 17. [0:22:21, 0:22:26]: Uh would that still put you in line with your uh progress going forward? [0:22:27, 0:22:32]: See, the hope was uh councilman Thomas to be able to get council approval for these positions this evening because [0:22:33, 0:22:38]: The folks that we look to bring on board will need to provide sufficient notice to their employer. [0:22:38, 0:22:46]: We table this to the 30th, then we'll be looking at January before we're able to bring people on. And my hope we'd be able to bring them on in December. [0:22:46, 0:22:51]: so that we could begin the work that needs to happen in order to move this uh this initiative forward. [0:22:55, 0:22:57]: Okay, Miss Thomas, is that it for you, sir? [0:22:58, 0:23:08]: Well, I it it is because I don't wanna hog it, but um I I just sort of still have some some concern with that we're talking a matter of um I guess a few weeks. [0:23:08, 0:23:09]: Um [0:23:10, 0:23:12]: And you know, and then [0:23:13, 0:23:14]: Uh, Chief, you know, and I [0:23:15, 0:23:18]: I really didn't want to get into this at this point. [0:23:18, 0:23:22]: See even the the advertisement of of positions [0:23:22, 0:23:30]: Which has to hap has to happen. And that's what I was alluding to earlier, that there are some procedural [0:23:30, 0:23:34]: uh step that has not taken place. [0:23:34, 0:23:40]: Uh and that's what I wanted to sort of talk to you about, but you know, we just didn't have time to talk about those, but [0:23:40, 0:23:42]: Um d those are a must. [0:23:43, 0:23:50]: uh in this process in municipal government, you know, the advertisement of position, you know, that is a must. [0:23:51, 0:23:55]: Um I didn't really want to use this platform to to get into that, but [0:23:55, 0:23:56]: Um [0:23:57, 0:24:02]: I I would recommend Chief if if if we could if we could delay that that [0:24:02, 0:24:05]: uh agenda item agenda item um [0:24:05, 0:24:06]: Sixteen. [0:24:07, 0:24:08]: Um [0:24:10, 0:24:14]: There there are some things that I just need to have a conversation with you about and [0:24:14, 0:24:17]: And I don't know why some of these things did not happen. [0:24:17, 0:24:18]: Um [0:24:19, 0:24:24]: But it did not happen. But these are a musts in municipal government. [0:24:25, 0:24:36]: Councilman, I understand your your uh position, sir. I certainly do. I can tell you that uh if you you look at a number of agencies that have started up, uh typically in most organizations we do. [0:24:36, 0:24:46]: uh put this information out, but uh as it relates to the startup, uh the chief is given considerable latitude in terms of members that they bring on board for their implementation team. [0:24:47, 0:24:54]: So that's not typically something that we've seen in any of the startup departments where all those positions have been advertised before they've been filled. [0:24:54, 0:25:04]: And if I'm not mistaken, the charter, if I'm not mistaken, uh does give the director of the division the latitude to make those appointments for those positions. [0:25:04, 0:25:10]: I did bring the candidates that I was considering before Mayor Ford, who's had the opportunity to meet with those candidates in advance. [0:25:11, 0:25:15]: And I can tell you those candidates are qualified. However, I'm not in a position to be able to speak to [0:25:15, 0:25:24]: uh these individuals specifically uh because obviously uh they are currently employed, but I did want to just just make that uh statement. [0:25:25, 0:25:45]: And I would know the fact that obviously I did meet all those gentlemen and I think they're well well excellent, qualified individuals. In reference to the the charter, uh our attorneys here, in reference to the the what uh Chief mentioned about the charter, is that an accurate statement? One before we go any further, that um that a director has some type of latitude to do something like this, to bring these people forward. [0:25:46, 0:25:50]: Mayor, I off the top of my head, I don't know. This is Jeremy. I can look and [0:25:50, 0:25:55]: And see on the charter. I mean I I would think that sounds correct that a the department head should be able to [0:25:55, 0:25:58]: fill his or her position as they deem fit. [0:26:00, 0:26:10]: Okay, but if council but if council does issue the problem is is that typically councils don't go in this far into deciding about employees that a director would hire. [0:26:11, 0:26:13]: But if council ultimately decides to do that. [0:26:14, 0:26:19]: That would kind of be steering into the executive branch, but if council issued a directive, you can't hire anybody without letting us know. [0:26:20, 0:26:22]: And we have to prove them that's not completely new. [0:26:23, 0:26:25]: Stamp okay, thank you, gentlemen. [0:26:25, 0:26:28]: Uh Councilman Barber, did you have your hand up earlier? [0:26:28, 0:26:29]: Or not? [0:26:31, 0:26:33]: I I see you, Mr. Blount. I see you. [0:26:34, 0:26:37]: If not, okay, Ms. Okay, no problem. Ms. Blanc, go ahead, please. [0:26:38, 0:26:44]: Mm Mr. Knighton, uh I'm I'm Mr. Wiggins for me, sir. Mr. Wiggins, uh uh [0:26:44, 0:26:47]: Not wiggles uh I'll say the attorneys, let me put it that way. [0:26:48, 0:26:52]: Um, department heads have had the latitude of hiring. [0:26:53, 0:26:58]: But they've had the latitude of hiring from those that have been applied to the position that's been posted. [0:26:59, 0:27:04]: So the latitude of hiring from any department head has been there. [0:27:04, 0:27:08]: But it came from a pool of those that had been posted for the position. [0:27:08, 0:27:13]: as we're doing even now when it comes to uh uh our city manager's position. [0:27:14, 0:27:17]: The mayor has the latitude to bring that person forward. [0:27:17, 0:27:22]: But that person is coming from a pool of that which has been posted. So I would like to know. [0:27:22, 0:27:22]: Yeah. [0:27:23, 0:27:33]: those hirings can happen without positions being posted uh when it comes to uh government positions like that. Uh secondly, um [0:27:33, 0:27:36]: Um chief tramer with these vehicles. [0:27:36, 0:27:40]: Have the budget because th these vehicles are the purchase price. [0:27:40, 0:27:44]: has the price because these vehicles need to be fitted. [0:27:44, 0:27:55]: Has the price with the fitting of these vehicles also been brought forward also with these vehicles? What is going to cost to have each to have those many vehicles fitted? [0:27:55, 0:28:00]: What with the point of order, Mayor Ford, all I ask [0:28:00, 0:28:07]: is to table these two items. We're going into discussions specifically about the items. [0:28:07, 0:28:09]: When all I asked. [0:28:09, 0:28:10]: What's the table in? [0:28:11, 0:28:11]: All right. [0:28:11, 0:28:12]: Understood. [0:28:12, 0:28:21]: Uh Mayor, let me let me give an another point of order then on top of that. Go ahead, sir. That uh the point I I do agree with Councilwoman Barber. [0:28:22, 0:28:25]: Uh this item itself was to table or not table. [0:28:26, 0:28:46]: But if but if the question was has arisen that we're going to table it and then the questions has come to Chief Tramer about specifics on those items, this is no different than them specifics. When these items are brought up pertaining to the vehicles, the same thing is uh uh questioning the the validity of the the people that are coming forward for. [0:28:46, 0:28:49]: employees. I'm only I'm only uh uh [0:28:49, 0:28:55]: Uh question the validity of the uh contract when it comes to the bill. Come on, point of order. Let's call for the vote. [0:28:55, 0:28:56]: Can we see? [0:28:57, 0:29:02]: take a vote on whether or not people approve tabling these items. [0:29:02, 0:29:03]: Or not. [0:29:04, 0:29:09]: Then we can move through the agenda. Please, sir. Mayor, if I'm gonna sit back and respect [0:29:10, 0:29:14]: Each council member we call for a point of order and that please move it. [0:29:14, 0:29:16]: Stand stand by. Go ahead, Mr. Blount. You say what now? [0:29:17, 0:29:23]: If I'm gonna sit back and respect each council member to whatever question they have pertaining to this item. [0:29:24, 0:29:27]: then I very I I very well expect the same myself. [0:29:27, 0:29:32]: If that's not going to be the case, then we then it's up to you, Mayor, to decide that. [0:29:32, 0:29:38]: Okay, well here's what we're gonna do. The motion was made and and we got a second. So all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:29:40, 0:29:44]: All in favor of the motion, please indicate. All opposed the the motion, indicate. [0:29:45, 0:29:56]: Mr. Okay, so what I have is I got one person which is Councilman Barber that approves it, and I got one person which is Mayor Protema Alexander to oppose it. So otherwise the motion fails in this aspect. [0:29:57, 0:29:59]: Okay, now we have these we have uh [0:30:00, 0:30:04]: the motion fails motion fails so we have 16 17 on the on the agenda [0:30:05, 0:30:10]: Am I able to go forward or are we gonna or we're gonna have another motion on the floor to um to amend the agenda here? [0:30:11, 0:30:13]: Mr. Bru uh Mr. Thomas, please. [0:30:13, 0:30:15]: Let's move forward. [0:30:15, 0:30:16]: Okay. [0:30:16, 0:30:20]: It's just embarrassing. I mean Mr. Thomas, please. [0:30:20, 0:30:22]: I I I I I I withdraw. [0:30:23, 0:30:26]: All right. My come my time is. [0:30:26, 0:30:27]: All right. [0:30:27, 0:30:28]: All right. [0:30:28, 0:30:32]: Now so otherwise motions, I mean uh items 1617 remain on the agenda. [0:30:33, 0:30:49]: Now, what I do have in front of you, ladies and gentlemen, is I have two resolutions here. And these are resolutions that deal with reopening in-person meetings for the city council and also reopening the city hall and all of our municipal buildings to the public. [0:30:49, 0:30:59]: And so if you want to have further discussion about that, I would need these be added uh to the agenda so we can uh vote discuss and vote on these resolutions. [0:30:59, 0:31:00]: Is there so move? [0:31:01, 0:31:07]: Say the read it. I'm sorry. Read the read that again. I have I have two resolutions. I need to add to the agenda. [0:31:08, 0:31:10]: Resolution for reopening in person meetings. [0:31:10, 0:31:15]: for the city city stop breaks for our in-person meeting so we're no longer virtual like we are now. [0:31:15, 0:31:23]: And the other resolution deals with uh reopening city hall and also involving all the municipal buildings to the public. [0:31:23, 0:31:33]: Okay. Will we vote it? We'll be voting on these resolutions or if if if it's added to the agenda, it's not an agenda. So I need it so move and a second and then a vote and then we'll add it to the agenda if that's the case. [0:31:34, 0:31:35]: They're still moved. [0:31:35, 0:31:37]: Ms. Barber still moved it. Is there a second? [0:31:38, 0:31:40]: Second. All right. All in favor, please indicate. [0:31:41, 0:31:42]: One, two. [0:31:43, 0:31:55]: I got two discussion. Well, let's let's let's vote on this. Let's vote. Yeah, yeah or nay, and then we'll have discussion depending on what where we sit. So I I have two four. Is anybody else? [0:31:56, 0:31:58]: The discussion real quick. Well, okay. [0:32:00, 0:32:02]: Okay, uh two for two against. [0:32:04, 0:32:09]: Okay. So stand by. All right. We got two four. What's she discussing, Mr. Thomas? [0:32:10, 0:32:13]: When you proposed this uh some weeks ago. [0:32:14, 0:32:20]: I I I uh expressed my concerns about COVID protocol. [0:32:20, 0:32:25]: Uh putting things in place to make sure that we are prepared. [0:32:26, 0:32:28]: Two meet in person. [0:32:28, 0:32:31]: Being prepared to accommodate [0:32:31, 0:32:33]: uh citizens [0:32:33, 0:32:37]: uh coming into the building. I never got a response to that. [0:32:37, 0:32:42]: Um, you know, plexiglass in various location. [0:32:42, 0:32:45]: uh covet cleaning et cetera et cetera [0:32:46, 0:32:56]: I I cannot vote in favor of us going forward for in-person meeting until I know that these things are in place. Now, my last [0:32:57, 0:33:00]: Um view and of the [0:33:02, 0:33:10]: I'm sorry, was that a question? Go ahead, Mr. McThomas. Uh the last time that I looked at uh the the council's chamber. [0:33:10, 0:33:11]: Um [0:33:12, 0:33:14]: Something was just not in place. [0:33:15, 0:33:35]: Well, here's here's here's a couple of things for you then. And shame on me, but here's a couple of things. One, in reference to the chamber, there are no is no plexigas at the clerk's table and at the attorney's table at this time. And that is going to be ordered. Mr. I. It may take a couple of weeks to get that. If that is the case and we go forward with meeting the council chambers, which right now won't be until the 30th. [0:33:35, 0:33:55]: The month, if we approve this, unless there's some type of special call meeting to come before that, then you would my suggestion is we take the plexiglass from the actual um reception desk because our meetings typically would be in the evening hours anyway. Take the plexiglass from the reception desk and put it on front at both those tables uh in the council chambers, and then there [0:33:55, 0:33:56]: Yeah. [0:33:56, 0:34:16]: And on the count on the dais. There are already plastic glass posted on the dais for us uh council members. And then uh there have been also copies of of documents that have been posted, uh do not sit here in this aspect that have been separated in in the council chambers. Our assistant did those and show and laminated them and uh they should be posted on the [0:34:16, 0:34:36]: Chairs are right now, this aspect that's that's gonna be taken care of. The other thing is that you will people would have to come in with masks, with masks, have to wear masks, and it'll have to get cleared through one entry. Uh at the uh we'll relocate the temperature check from the employee entrance and put it at the uh entrance where citizens will come. [0:34:36, 0:34:56]: We'll only have one entry in at this time. And they would have to be cleared by our police officer. Right now we have Henry County police that are still given security in this aspect on a daily basis, as well as for our uh for our meetings. Uh security of the police officer will have me posted there uh with the temperature set. [0:34:56, 0:35:07]: in this aspect to make sure folks don't have a temperature. And uh we're not gonna be asking for a valid uh for um actual cards, uh vaccination cards at this point. [0:35:08, 0:35:09]: But there will be a requirement. [0:35:09, 0:35:11]: Of course to have a mass and get your temperature checked. [0:35:12, 0:35:14]: And then also what'll happen is that there'll be [0:35:15, 0:35:35]: um stickers on the on the carpet and over on the floor, separating uh individuals at least six feet apart as they do business downstairs uh with the with our employees down on the first floor. Or and also as well as when we have a council meeting, if that's the case, uh they'll be separated by six feet as they have to go through the security [0:35:34, 0:35:50]: check uh coming into the actual chambers itself. And there is a requirement, if there is a requirement for us to uh fully fog or uh in a sense to um have some type of assets to we we have to [0:35:51, 0:35:55]: kind of effumigate the entire city hall if it comes to that point if we have some type of case that causes that. [0:35:56, 0:36:08]: then uh we would take charge and and and fund that and and do that appropriately. Right now all we need is a deep uh some type of simple cleaning because no one's been in the council chambers in this aspect uh for well over a year and a half. [0:36:08, 0:36:22]: And then of course and and coming into City Hall, just the regular cleaning of a cleaning crew right now, because the citizens haven't been coming on a regular basis either. So and in this aspect. And so those things will be laid out in this process. [0:36:24, 0:36:25]: Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. Um [0:36:26, 0:36:30]: COVID cleaning going forward'cause once we uh start [0:36:30, 0:36:31]: In person. [0:36:31, 0:36:35]: Then those cleanings would need to be up to par number one. Number two. [0:36:35, 0:36:38]: Uh, is there a great [0:36:39, 0:36:45]: Is there a grade level for plexiglass that we should use? Because I'll be honest with you. [0:36:45, 0:36:48]: The the plexiglass that I see in the chamber. [0:36:50, 0:36:51]: Yeah. [0:36:52, 0:36:56]: Well, I I I my concern is that it's it's so thin. [0:36:56, 0:36:58]: I don't know if it meet the standard. [0:36:59, 0:37:09]: And I don't know what that standard is, so I'm just asking the question. Is there a grade of plexiglass that is recommended for COVID protocol? [0:37:09, 0:37:29]: Well, I would imagine I don't know what the grade is, but I would imagine when it was purchased some time ago, uh, that it meets the grade standards. I would only assume that. I would have to check in that further. In that aspect, um, I would have to check with uh Mr. Al Barnes, who is my understanding that purchased all this several, several months or so ago. So I'm assuming that that meets the standard because that's what was placed in there. And uh and then we may have. [0:37:29, 0:37:49]: actually have to uh purchase an additional temperature check um monitor also not only for city hall but also for our courthouse because if we open up city hall we'll open up a courthouse and of course upon renovation of the Merle Manders Conference Center we have to open that up as well uh so those are other things that have to occur but those those type of conversations are already had with [0:37:49, 0:38:09]: with uh staff members in this aspect. And shame on me if I didn't give you an update earlier. But that's some of the process that we will have to go through. And if we approve this and put on the agenda, it's my recommendation that we wouldn't open up the city hall until one few one week from today, which allows some additional time to get it to get the staff ready to deal with citizens on the [0:38:09, 0:38:14]: daily basis and make sure everything that we need to put in place will is actually in place. [0:38:17, 0:38:18]: Yes, sir. Go ahead, Mr. Blount. [0:38:19, 0:38:20]: Mayor, we've um [0:38:21, 0:38:32]: We've had the um Merrill Manders open on several occasions um for uh s various events. Yes. Amphitheater open with thousands of people. [0:38:32, 0:38:39]: We've attended events that uh we've attended uh things pertaining to those concerts in the green room. [0:38:39, 0:38:41]: Uh of the amphitheater. [0:38:41, 0:38:53]: Uh there's so much movement are going around not just just Henry County itself. And I think now is the time. I mean, the the cause I get is that people can't handle their business in the city of Stockbridge. [0:38:53, 0:39:12]: But basically only city hall has been closed to the public for handling their business. And most most business that are gonna be handled has been behind the glass blast plate uh wall anyway when it comes to those business licenses and all that's already been in place with the hand sanitation and and mass requirement. [0:39:12, 0:39:16]: And I do agree that there has to be some precautions on uh cleanings. [0:39:16, 0:39:25]: But everybody's open, and we're also having events when we deem to have events, and we've uh also inviting thousands of people into events, and we're doing so much. [0:39:25, 0:39:28]: We need to open City Hall to the public to to to handle their business. [0:39:29, 0:39:33]: Okay. You got business owners and citizens that want to come to City Hall to handle their business. [0:39:33, 0:39:39]: Because getting through on phone calls has not been the most easiest uh situation that uh that they've had. [0:39:41, 0:39:42]: And we get the vote. [0:39:42, 0:39:43]: Okay. [0:39:43, 0:39:54]: All right. So otherwise. Okay. So otherwise and definitely no more comments. So the two different resolutions. I mentioned those resolutions. So I need a so move for those resolutions. So move. Is there a second? [0:39:55, 0:40:06]: Mayor, we had a um Barber and Alexander made the first second. Okay, fine. We it's still the same. Oh Barber and Alexander, okay, fine. Correct. Okay, fine. Stay with that then. [0:40:06, 0:40:09]: And obviously have some discussion. So all in favor, please indicate. [0:40:11, 0:40:12]: Okay, all posts. [0:40:13, 0:40:15]: And Mr. Thomas, you should vote, sir. [0:40:17, 0:40:20]: We got three conf confirmations. Mr. Thomas, what's your vote, sir? [0:40:22, 0:40:23]: You're muted. [0:40:24, 0:40:30]: Abstain. Oh, you abstain. Okay. So on these two resolutions, we will add these, and this is uh [0:40:31, 0:40:36]: Uh new business we'll add these at uh let's see here. How about uh [0:40:38, 0:40:41]: We'll make it twenty number twenty-one and twenty-two. [0:40:42, 0:41:01]: All right. And with this, we'll have these since resolutions were brought up by our attorneys, we'll have our attorneys uh speak to those resolutions, number 21 and 22. Okay. Now, on that note, uh, are the any other amendments necessary? And if not, I need a motion to assent. I would ask a question. [0:41:01, 0:41:03]: In terms of um [0:41:04, 0:41:07]: We have staff members here that are gonna be waiting all night. [0:41:08, 0:41:11]: Uh, the Chief gonna be waiting all night to number sixteen and seventeen. [0:41:12, 0:41:17]: Is it would it be appropriate to move his items up to the front of the agenda so he's not waiting here all night? [0:41:17, 0:41:25]: Well uh until to for us to move forward. Well, per person, I'd I'd rather just follow the gender the way it is. He he's he's he's he's a chief, he'll be all right, he'll be fine. [0:41:26, 0:41:30]: That's that's my my my opinion on that, but it'll be fine. He'll be he'll be all right. [0:41:30, 0:41:31]: We'll be fine. [0:41:31, 0:41:35]: All right, so on that note, I need a motion to amend the overall agenda, please. [0:41:36, 0:41:38]: Is there a second? [0:41:38, 0:41:41]: Ms. Barber, you second that? All in favor, please indicate. [0:41:42, 0:41:51]: Fantastic. Okay, got a unanimous decision on that. On that note, um, the motion to adopt the following minutes, which would be the council meeting on September 13th. [0:41:51, 0:41:56]: And also the council work session on September twenty-eighth. I need a motion to adopt those minutes, please. [0:41:57, 0:41:58]: So moved. [0:41:58, 0:41:59]: Zero second. [0:42:01, 0:42:05]: Is there a second? All right. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. All in favor, please indicate. [0:42:07, 0:42:15]: Okay, uh I got three. Mr. Thomas, are you proven? You're proving that? Okay, so it's four. All right, good deal. Thank you. [0:42:15, 0:42:16]: Um [0:42:17, 0:42:21]: Madam Clerk, any public comments? We do, Mayor. We have one public comment tonight. [0:42:21, 0:42:22]: Go right here, please. [0:42:25, 0:42:33]: On behalf, oh I'm sorry, this public comment is from Mr. Charles Marshall, president of the Henry County Coalition Committee. [0:42:34, 0:42:36]: One forty Somerset Hills McDonald's. [0:42:36, 0:42:37]: Okay. [0:42:38, 0:42:45]: On behalf of the Henry County Coalition Committee, we send our sincere congratulations to you, Mayor Ford. [0:42:45, 0:42:50]: and council members of Stockbridge on your reelections back to the Stockbridge City government. [0:42:51, 0:42:56]: We now look forward to your continued efforts in moving this great city forward. [0:42:56, 0:43:06]: Our community has so many things to be thankful for, and I'm sure that we all agree that there is still and always will be much more to be done. [0:43:07, 0:43:14]: Your success in bringing us the amphitheater is just a sample of what can be done if we stay the course. [0:43:15, 0:43:24]: Bringing the community, its own police force, more robust business growth, and now plans for an arts cultural center. [0:43:24, 0:43:26]: A revitalized downtown. [0:43:27, 0:43:29]: Upgraded streets and trails. [0:43:29, 0:43:33]: In a premium development site called the Bridges of Jody Code. [0:43:33, 0:43:35]: It's now very much anticipated. [0:43:36, 0:43:39]: There is nothing easy in the job of being a public servant. [0:43:40, 0:43:44]: But we are thankful that you all have taken on this great task. [0:43:45, 0:43:49]: You are all gifted people charged with uniting. [0:43:49, 0:43:52]: and leading this community to a better tomorrow. [0:43:53, 0:43:58]: There will always be challenges and obstacles put in front of your every step. [0:43:58, 0:44:00]: Some even intentional. [0:44:00, 0:44:01]: However [0:44:01, 0:44:03]: All we have to decide. [0:44:03, 0:44:05]: It's what to do. [0:44:05, 0:44:07]: With the time that it's given us. [0:44:08, 0:44:10]: We must forgive one another. [0:44:10, 0:44:12]: For the things that we sometimes say. [0:44:13, 0:44:15]: And the way that we sometimes act. [0:44:16, 0:44:18]: We must do this because this city [0:44:18, 0:44:20]: And the people of the city. [0:44:20, 0:44:22]: And surrounding area. [0:44:22, 0:44:25]: А очень гретер than any one of us. [0:44:26, 0:44:27]: However [0:44:27, 0:44:32]: It takes every one of us to make this city as great as it should. [0:44:32, 0:44:33]: And can be. [0:44:34, 0:44:37]: As president of the Henry County Coalition Committee. [0:44:37, 0:44:50]: I pledge this organization to be good partners with the city and continue to support your efforts in making the city of Stockbridge and surrounding area a great place to live. [0:44:50, 0:44:51]: Work. [0:44:51, 0:44:52]: And play. [0:44:52, 0:44:54]: There are no further comments, Mayor. [0:44:54, 0:44:56]: Thank you, appreciate it. Thank you, Mr. Marshall. [0:44:57, 0:45:03]: Okay, on that note, uh we have several different ceremonial proclamations to read. And the very first one tonight. [0:45:03, 0:45:11]: uh deals with retired educators. And uh I would imagine that there are one or two individuals on present that will uh be receiving this. [0:45:12, 0:45:20]: And so this says, Whereas the governor of the state of Georgia has proclaimed the day Sunday, November seventh, twenty twenty-one, as retired educators day in Georgia. [0:45:21, 0:45:30]: And whereas there are more than 135,000 retired educators in Georgia, 31,000 plus of whom are members of Georgia Retired Educators Association. [0:45:30, 0:45:40]: Whereas the retired educators of Georgia donate thousands of hours of volunteer service and make invaluable contributions to the welfare of their respective communities across the state. [0:45:41, 0:46:01]: Whereas in an appropriate it is appropriate that a day be designated for citizens to express their appreciation for the contributions that retired educators have made and continue to make for the betterment of human lives and for society. And there and therefore, I, Anthony S. Ford, mayor of the City of Stockbridge Georgia. [0:46:00, 0:46:14]: Georgia, along with Councilmembers Elton Alexander, Yolanda Barber, John Blount, Lakeisha Gantt, Responso Thomas Du Hirpie, declared November 7, 2021 as required Education or Educators Day in the great city of Georgia. [0:46:14, 0:46:28]: Stockbridge, Georgia, in witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia on the eighth day of November and our year of the Lord 2021. And I signed the proclamation along with our clerk Vanessa Holliday. [0:46:28, 0:46:40]: So congratulations. So I'm not sure which one of you ladies or individuals are are going to receive this and have any comments. And of course I'll coordinate with you to have actually have this handed to you. [0:46:40, 0:46:45]: in another location so we can give this uh proclamation to you framed as well. [0:46:46, 0:46:47]: Is that new, Miss Dodgins? [0:46:47, 0:46:48]: Go ahead, right. [0:46:49, 0:46:49]: Um [0:46:50, 0:46:54]: Our president is Wendy Hughes and I believe she's on Wendy. [0:46:55, 0:47:04]: I am and Mr. Mayor and all the council members, I would like to s uh give our sincere appreciation as the Henry County Retired Educators Association president. [0:47:04, 0:47:11]: For your support for our wonderful day and also hope that you find that although we're retired. [0:47:11, 0:47:22]: That we are movers and shakers in your community and in your city and um hope that you will call on us to help you in any way that you see fit. And we thank you once again. [0:47:22, 0:47:42]: Absolutely. And once again, I want you more than welcome, ladies. More than I have to coordinate with you all through the clerk to somehow work out a point to do actually issue this to you in person. Okay. And we'll work that out and get that done uh soon. All right. You're more than welcome to stay as long as you like. Okay. I have the next proclamation. You're welcome. I have the next proclamation. [0:47:42, 0:48:02]: Deals with the National Hospice and Hospice and Palliative Care Month, which is November 2021. And this proclamation indicates whereas for more than 40 years, hospice has helped provide comfort and dignity to millions of people, allowing them to spend their final months at home surrounded by their loved ones. [0:48:02, 0:48:15]: Whereas the hospice model involves the interdisciplinary team-oriented approach to treatment, including expert medical care, quality symptom control, and comprehensive pain management. [0:48:16, 0:48:17]: As a foundation of care. [0:48:17, 0:48:37]: Whereas beyond providing physical treatment, hospice attends to the patient's emotional, spiritual, and family needs and provides family services like respirate care and bereavement counseling. And whereas palliative care delivers expertise and improve to improve quality of life and relief from [0:48:37, 0:48:57]: pain can be provided at any time during the illness. The hospice are some of the best providers of community-based palliative care. And whereas in an increasing fragmented and broken healthcare system, hospice is one of the few sectors that demonstrates how healthcare can and should work as best for its patient. [0:48:58, 0:49:01]: Whereas one point five five million [0:49:01, 0:49:12]: Uh 1.55 million Americans living with life-limiting illness and the families received care from the nation's hospice programs in communities throughout the United States in 2021. [0:49:13, 0:49:22]: Whereas hospice and palliative care organizations are advocates and educators about advanced care planning that help individuals to make decisions about the care they want. [0:49:22, 0:49:30]: Whereas the centers of Medicare and Medicaid services have pledged to put patients first in all of its programs, including hospice. [0:49:30, 0:49:40]: Ensuring a coordinated and patient-led approach to care, protecting patient choice and access to individual individualized services based on a patient's unique care. [0:49:41, 0:49:48]: And service and wishes. Now, therefore, I there now therefore let it be resolved that I, Anthony S. Ford, by virtue of the authority vested in me. [0:49:49, 0:49:54]: Along with Council members Elton, Alexander, Yolanda, Barber, John, Blount, Lakese Gann, and Founcil Thomas do hereby proclaim. [0:49:55, 0:50:10]: November 2021 is National Hospice and Palliative Care Month, and encourage citizens to increase their understanding and awareness of care at the end of life, discuss their end of life wishes with the families and observe this month with their appropriate activities and programs. [0:50:11, 0:50:22]: And witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand on eighth day of November 2021 and has caused this seal to be affixed. And I signed this proclamation along with our clerk Vanessa Holliday. [0:50:23, 0:50:29]: Okay, congratulations. I'm not sure who's online that to that would have any comments and would receive this. [0:50:31, 0:50:35]: Okay. And Mr. Terry Berry, if he's online. [0:50:35, 0:50:36]: Terry Berry? [0:50:36, 0:50:40]: I'm sorry, Terry Smith. I apologize. Terry Smith. [0:50:40, 0:50:49]: Mr. Sm okay, Terry Smith. And if not, then uh Vanessa, we'll coordinate the process to get this to um Terry Smith. [0:50:50, 0:50:52]: Yes. Some time here shortly, okay. [0:50:55, 0:51:01]: The next proclamation deals with the National Technology Training Institute, a 10-year celebration. And I actually [0:51:01, 0:51:06]: issued this proclamation and a serum graduation ceremony actually yesterday afternoon. [0:51:07, 0:51:16]: at Clayton State and also attended a um a reception dinner at the the actual technology training institute um [0:51:17, 0:51:24]: Office uh right here in Stockbridge and uh attended that, actually attended that with my wife yesterday. So it was a great celebration. [0:51:24, 0:51:40]: So let me read this, whereas the National Trology Training Institute provides multiple techology healthcare courses of education that bridge the gap of knowledge between medical doctors, beauty professionals, barbers, trycogs, and wellness experts. [0:51:41, 0:52:01]: And whereas United as one voice in education to impede hair loss academic and the new global hair loss pandemic, medical doctors, wellness experts, dermatologists, technologists, cosmetologists, and professional beauty instructors train all students of the National Trentecology Training Institute to become certified trycology practitioners through. [0:52:01, 0:52:02]: Six hundred hours of training. [0:52:03, 0:52:10]: Whereas another wave of hair loss has happened in the pandemic, the statistics show that hair loss is a critical mass issue. [0:52:10, 0:52:11]: And is a twin dimmick. [0:52:12, 0:52:13]: in a global pandemic. [0:52:13, 0:52:28]: A hair loss academic is uncovered when the wigs, weaves, hair braids, hats, and scarves are removed and whereas millions of women, in particular African American women, are experiencing significant hair loss and scalp disorders more than ever before. [0:52:28, 0:52:47]: Traction alopecia, diffusion hair, temporary baldness, and permanent hair loss because of medical damage. Traction alopecia is one of the leading causes of hair loss. And whereas the National Tracology Training Institute graduated its first class in May 2011, and 10 years later, we congratulate and celebrate the class of 2021. [0:52:47, 0:53:03]: Now, therefore, I, Anthony S. Ford by Mayor, Mayor of City, Stockbridge, Georgia, along with Councilmembers Elton, Alexander, Yelonga, Barber, John Blount, Lakeish Gann, Afonso Thomas, do hereby celebrate the 10th National Techology Training Institute class of 2021 in Great City of Startbridge, Georgia. [0:53:03, 0:53:13]: In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand in the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the seventh day of November of a year of our Lord, 2021. [0:53:14, 0:53:34]: And I did this yesterday, just want to read it in public uh today. Um, and uh Ms. Judge, Connie Judge, I don't know if she's online, but I will tell you, ladies and gentlemen, that uh this training institute, technology training institute, is not only the only one in Georgia, it is the only one with certified educational. [0:53:34, 0:53:49]: 600 hours of training in the nation. In the nation. Okay. And it's located right where? In Stockbridge. Very unique. Matter of fact, out of 10 graduates yesterday that I observed, you had graduates from Las Vegas. [0:53:50, 0:53:51]: Чикаго [0:53:52, 0:53:53]: And and and uh New York. [0:53:54, 0:54:14]: besides our local local area here in the state of Georgia. Whereas that they they they did us online. Sometimes I had to fly into fly into the and into shaka uh into uh the airport and have the training at the sh at the headquarters there, the school on site. Very, very intense, a lot of good training. And uh and I tell you it's really I'm really proud of the fact that [0:54:14, 0:54:34]: they're not only they had a tenure celebration that I participated in, but the fact that they're located right here in Stockbridge. And they're the only one thus far, thus far in the country that actually does this and certified training. Now a lot of the grad some of the graduates that uh came from different locations plan to start their own school, training institute in other parts of the country. But it's it's a thank [0:54:34, 0:54:41]: to uh kinda judd and her vision and all the support folks for that for this so um in this aspect so fantastic [0:54:42, 0:54:43]: And I have one more. [0:54:43, 0:54:44]: Proclamation. [0:54:44, 0:54:49]: And uh this deals with uh small business Saturday. Okay. [0:54:49, 0:54:57]: And uh declaring November 27, 2021, Small Business Saturday and Stockbridge make a big impact, stop small. [0:54:57, 0:55:17]: Whereas the City of StarPrades recognize the value and importance of small businesses to local, regional, and national economy. And whereas, according to the United States Small Business Administration, there are currently 31.7 million small businesses in the United States, representing 99.9% of all businesses with employees in the United States. And where small businesses are responsible. [0:55:17, 0:55:22]: responsible for sixty-four percent of the net new jobs created over the past two decades. [0:55:22, 0:55:30]: Where small businesses employ more than half of the city's private sector workforce and are critical to the growth of our local economy. [0:55:30, 0:55:33]: As it continues to drive significant job creation and innovation. [0:55:33, 0:55:42]: And whereas the city of Stockbridge supports our local local businesses that create jobs, boost our local economy, and preserve our communities. [0:55:43, 0:55:54]: Whereas the city of Stockbridge celebrates our local small businesses and the contributions they make to our local economy and community. Now, therefore, I, Anthony S. Ford, by virtual authority vested in me as the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:55:55, 0:56:15]: And on behalf of City Council members Elton Alexander Landa Barber, John Blount, Lakeisha Gantt, and Alfonso Thomas, to hereby proclaim November 27, 2021, a Small Business Saturday. And Stockbridge encouraged local citizens to participate in Small Business Saturday by supporting local stores, businesses, restaurants, and other independent merchants throughout the Stockbridge community. Thanks to the [0:56:15, 0:56:22]: Programs such as the city's Main Street program, 70% of the U.S. consumers are aware of Small Business Saturday. So please shop small. [0:56:22, 0:56:28]: In witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand and onto the great seal of the city of Sabred, Georgia. [0:56:28, 0:56:34]: on the eighth day of November of year two thousand and twenty two. Excuse me, two thousand twenty one. [0:56:34, 0:56:38]: And uh signed a proclamation along with uh Clerk Vanessa Holiday. [0:56:38, 0:56:46]: And Main Street is online. You all have some comments I'd like I would imagine you would want to have, and I'll obviously I'll just be able to issue this to you tomorrow. [0:56:47, 0:56:49]: In person. Go right here, please. [0:56:50, 0:56:58]: Thank you, Mayor Ford, and thank you, members of City Council. Um, our Main Street staff is really happy to be able to. [0:56:58, 0:57:01]: I think this is our sixth year doing small business Saturday. [0:57:02, 0:57:05]: Um, we're very proud. We've grown quite a bit in our city. [0:57:05, 0:57:08]: This year's actually very special. Um [0:57:08, 0:57:13]: Because of the pandemic, we've decided to do some things a little bit differently. [0:57:13, 0:57:15]: To help businesses get more. [0:57:15, 0:57:18]: uh traction for the month of November. So we are [0:57:19, 0:57:35]: Starting this month by having the Stockbridge Small Business Blitz, which means we celebrate Small Business Saturday all month, as well as on November 27th, which is the official Small Business Saturday, the Saturday after Thanksgiving. [0:57:35, 0:57:37]: And we have a couple of our um [0:57:37, 0:57:46]: Main Street board members on with us. We have Anika Potts and we have Miss Linda Jones. And I'd just like to give each of them a chance to say a couple of words. [0:57:47, 0:57:49]: Absolutely. Ms. Potts, please. [0:57:50, 0:58:10]: Yes, thank you for the opportunity to speak and for the proclamation. Um, Main Street um has been working diligently for some time to ensure that Small Business Saturday uh continues. And we are so excited to um be able to have the entire month this year. So thank you for the um accolade. [0:58:10, 0:58:15]: and um have a fantastic rest of the day and shop small. [0:58:16, 0:58:20]: Absolutely. Uh Linda, you online. Do you want anything to say, ma'am? [0:58:24, 0:58:25]: Okay. [0:58:26, 0:58:38]: Okay, maybe maybe we lost Ms. Linda Jones. Okay, Linda Jones. All right, no problem. On that note then, uh thank you. Obviously you can stay as long as you like and uh appreciate it and I'll be able to hand it to you tomorrow when I see you, okay? [0:58:38, 0:58:55]: Thanks everyone. Okay, appreciate it. Thank you. Okay, great deal. We'll move on to presentations. Presentations, police services, financial presentation. Mr. Wall, of course, Chief Tremor. And Mr. Wall is online to assist with this process. So Chief, I'll hand it off to you, sir. Go right in, please. [0:59:01, 0:59:05]: Well I'm I I guess I was a little confused because I was uh uh [0:59:05, 0:59:12]: looking to Mr. Wall to take the lead on this as it relates to uh this presentation. Uh okay. [0:59:12, 0:59:14]: Mr Mr. Wall, are you on the line? [0:59:14, 0:59:16]: He he's he's there, the [0:59:16, 0:59:19]: And Mayor, I'm here, by the way. I just got in. [0:59:19, 0:59:20]: Okay. [0:59:21, 0:59:23]: Yes, sir. I'm here cheap. Can you see the mayor? [0:59:23, 0:59:24]: Yeah, see you, sir. [0:59:25, 0:59:44]: So uh I'm driving back from Darty County, so I'm in my truck. So I apologize. I turned the light on so y'all can see me. Um, so Chief Trammell and uh Quentin, uh Washington and Jeremy Berry and I and John Wiggins and the mayor have had numerous calls to talk about this and um [0:59:44, 0:59:45]: Um [0:59:46, 0:59:48]: We had the last one this morning. [0:59:49, 0:59:55]: Where um Chief Trammel has found a new release from the Department of Treasury that's was dated in July. [0:59:56, 0:59:57]: That I wasn't aware of. [0:59:58, 0:59:58]: And um [0:59:59, 1:00:07]: I don't know if we have the ability to share the screen and the Quentin, if you have it the ability, but it was a new release in July and on page twenty one and twenty two. [1:00:08, 1:00:10]: It gives the option. [1:00:10, 1:00:12]: guidance from the Department of Treasury. [1:00:12, 1:00:18]: that if crime has increased in a particular area and it's due to COVID, the pandemic. [1:00:19, 1:00:21]: You are then allowed to spin ARP. [1:00:21, 1:00:22]: Money. [1:00:23, 1:00:29]: on capital projects and even the hiring of new police officers to rectify the increase in crime. [1:00:30, 1:00:31]: So this morning the chief [1:00:32, 1:00:35]: sent to Quentin and uh Jeremy and myself. [1:00:36, 1:00:40]: Statistics from the Henry County Police Department showing what uh three categories of crime [1:00:41, 1:00:41]: Were [1:00:42, 1:00:43]: In twenty nineteen. [1:00:43, 1:00:44]: Uh and [1:00:44, 1:00:46]: twenty twenty and twenty twenty one. [1:00:47, 1:00:51]: And in fact, there has been an increase in crime, um [1:00:51, 1:00:55]: Uh eight percent in one category and twenty two percent in the other category. [1:00:56, 1:01:06]: If I could pause for just just a second. Chief, could you read those statistics? I know you presented them to Berry Council before, but I just wanted you to go over those three items about the increase in crime. [1:01:08, 1:01:12]: Yes, sir. I'd be glad to. And so what we did is um we looked at [1:01:12, 1:01:15]: The pre pandemic crime data for Henry County. [1:01:16, 1:01:22]: And we looked at the post uh data uh after the pandemic, and the thing that we had to show with the ARPA funding. [1:01:22, 1:01:28]: Is that our community was impacted and we had a increase in violent crime. [1:01:28, 1:01:45]: um in order to be eligible to utilize those offense or those uh those funds uh for uh specific offenses. And so uh what we're able to determine is that uh robbery robbery um armed robbery had increased over twenty-two percent [1:01:45, 1:01:49]: Um aggravated assaults had increased about nine percent. [1:01:49, 1:01:53]: And in homicides it increased at about at the rate of about two hundred percent. [1:01:53, 1:02:02]: Uh prior to the pandemic, we had uh over the course of a year, um, as as I'm looking at this data here, no homicides. [1:02:02, 1:02:08]: After the pandemic, the city has experienced 10 homicides. So if we were to extend that data, we'd be looking at about [1:02:08, 1:02:11]: Uh uh honestly, uh a five hundred. [1:02:11, 1:02:18]: uh it's a six hundred percent increase in overall homicides if we were to compare the data the data uh for a longer period of time. [1:02:18, 1:02:30]: And so I certainly think that based on the crime data that we've received, that we can show that there is a nexus between uh the pandemic and the increase in violent crime, which we've seen across the board in all communities. [1:02:30, 1:02:39]: Uh, but I'm trying to pull up here for you two the Treasury highlights and and I don't know if I have the option, I believe I do, to share my screen with you. [1:02:39, 1:02:46]: Uh, so that I can uh just point everyone to the interim guidance from the US Department of Treasury. [1:02:47, 1:03:01]: as it relates to the utilization of ARPA funds for specific public safety purposes. And I do want to point out too that Ms. Barber and I had the opportunity to meet with Miss Becky Taylor with the Georgia Municipal Association. [1:03:02, 1:03:08]: Who confirmed our interpretation of this data as well. And so I'm going to attempt to share my screen here. [1:03:08, 1:03:09]: Um [1:03:12, 1:03:15]: And hopefully everybody can um [1:03:17, 1:03:19]: See this information um [1:03:22, 1:03:29]: Can everybody see what's highlighted in green there? Can you all read that? We see nothing right now, sir. Nothing at all. Okay. So let me let me try this again. [1:03:30, 1:03:32]: IT are you able to give them permission? There we go. [1:03:33, 1:03:34]: Are you able to see that? [1:03:35, 1:03:36]: Now we see it. Yes, sir. Now we do. Okay. [1:03:37, 1:03:46]: So I want to point out here this section, and this is that we confirmed that there is no more updated guidance from the Department of Treasury beyond July nineteenth. This is the interim guidance. [1:03:46, 1:03:49]: This is the updated information and what it says here. [1:03:49, 1:04:04]: is that we can use the ARPA funds in communities where an increase in violence or increased difficulty in assessing or providing services to respond to or mitigate the effects of violence as a result of the pandemic. We may use these funds to address that harm and the spending may include [1:04:04, 1:04:13]: One of four broad categories. That's the hiring of law enforcement officials, community violence intervention programs, additional enforcement efforts to reduce gun violence. [1:04:14, 1:04:21]: And investing in technology and equipment to allow law enforcement to more effectively respond to the rise in gun violence resulting from the pandemic. [1:04:21, 1:04:23]: And so based on um [1:04:24, 1:04:26]: Everything that we've discerned thus far. [1:04:27, 1:04:31]: Uh believe that we all and when I say we all, Mr. Wall, Mr. Wiggins, and our council. [1:04:32, 1:04:41]: Um to include Ms. Barber and our conversation with Ms. Taylor are all on the same page and have interpreted this, that uh we are able to utilize ARPA funding. [1:04:41, 1:04:47]: Um uh but so long as we're able to show that nexus, that that crime uh nexus. [1:04:47, 1:04:49]: And the increase in violent crime in our community. [1:04:50, 1:04:56]: Uh the thing too that we learned from Miss Becky Taylor with Georgia Municipal Association is under the interim rule. [1:04:56, 1:05:02]: That if we were to use these funds, so long as we are not using them outside of the scope of their intended purpose. [1:05:02, 1:05:09]: That should the final ruling come back and indicate that we are not able to um [1:05:10, 1:05:28]: that we are not able to uh utilize these funds for this purpose, they change the rules or something along those lines, then we are not responsible for paying back the government for those uh expenses. And uh Councilwoman Barber, if you if I missed anything regarding our conversation, okay. [1:05:28, 1:05:31]: And so that's that's where we are with that. And um [1:05:32, 1:05:35]: And if I missed anything, please please feel free to jump in there. [1:05:35, 1:05:37]: You didn't so I'd also say [1:05:37, 1:05:40]: So this July release from the Department of Treasury. [1:05:42, 1:05:49]: If you can show that you had increase in crime due to the pandemic, you're now allowed to spend some of the ARP money. [1:05:49, 1:05:55]: on these categories, which police equipment, vehicles, even the hiring of police officers work. [1:05:55, 1:05:57]: I w I I wanted [1:05:57, 1:05:58]: Quentin [1:05:58, 1:05:59]: Jeremy. [1:05:59, 1:06:02]: Council to look at that, can I ask them to speak? [1:06:02, 1:06:04]: to their reading of it and [1:06:04, 1:06:05]: The [1:06:05, 1:06:09]: Back and forth email traffic with the lady at Georgia Municipal Association. [1:06:09, 1:06:12]: Quentin or Jeremy, can you speak to what your opinion is? [1:06:17, 1:06:19]: Or Quinn, do you want to jump in or do you want me to do it? [1:06:22, 1:06:29]: Yeah, we uh the the bottom line is we agree with what G Trammer and Ed have said and Quentin and I have prepared a memo. [1:06:29, 1:06:31]: uh that we can circulate, but looking at [1:06:32, 1:06:37]: And Quentin spoke to Becky Taylor from the Georgia um municipal association today. [1:06:37, 1:06:42]: But looking at the interim final rule that uh interprets the DOT. [1:06:42, 1:06:49]: Um regulations, then we we do believe this can be done. And in fact, we looked at other cities. [1:06:49, 1:06:55]: Uh, that have used money for you know police salary for police equipment. [1:06:55, 1:07:00]: uh and other sort of police re related um material so it's our belief [1:07:01, 1:07:03]: that this can be done. That the the [1:07:03, 1:07:05]: ARPA funds can be used. [1:07:05, 1:07:08]: Uh you know, like like is suggested here. [1:07:09, 1:07:11]: Then can I be specific, Chief? [1:07:12, 1:07:23]: The request is six million dollars worth of capital equipment to get the police force up and going, but the specific request is to use three million from the ARP's five and a half million we [1:07:24, 1:07:30]: We got eleven million that'll come in two checks. We have got five and a half million so far that's in the bank. [1:07:31, 1:07:34]: The other five and a half million to come about June of next year. [1:07:34, 1:07:38]: Isn't the request to spend about three million of that five and a half chief? [1:07:40, 1:07:48]: Yes, that's correct. If you recall from the budget presentation on October 26, the startup costs for the police departments just a little over six million dollars. [1:07:49, 1:08:04]: Um we bonded three million dollars for that. So the utilization of ARPA funds for the purchase of equipment would certainly offset those expenses. And I will say, and Mr. Wiggins, you could speak to this also, that Mr. Aaron has applied for some supplemental grant funding, which could get us [1:08:05, 1:08:07]: close to fourteen million dollars in ARPA funding. [1:08:08, 1:08:18]: And if we were to use three million for the police department, uh that still leaves us roughly eleven million dollars in funds to utilize for the city. So um just just wanted to be clear on that. [1:08:19, 1:08:25]: And the three million would would predominantly be for the acquisition of the police vehicles and associated equipment because that's [1:08:25, 1:08:29]: the largest capital expense that we will have as it relates to implementation of the departments. [1:08:32, 1:08:34]: Mr. Wiggins, do you have anything you need to add, sir? [1:08:35, 1:08:43]: I want to add to just confirm what what Chief said, he's uh absolutely correct. If we um if uh [1:08:43, 1:08:47]: Uh Dish is is successful and um [1:08:47, 1:08:57]: uh getting the um the extra two million then we will have about at least uh ten, eleven million more for sewer and stormwater. [1:08:57, 1:09:00]: type projects and then the three million [1:09:00, 1:09:08]: would be just for capital, any kind of uh uh uh huge expenses that the uh police department would need. And um [1:09:09, 1:09:15]: We will we will be um and then with the opera funds at uh using three million uh uh that [1:09:15, 1:09:18]: Along with the bond, I I think we will be um [1:09:19, 1:09:21]: We'll be right there. We'll be okay. [1:09:22, 1:09:26]: And then the the last thing when council, if y'all decide to approve this. [1:09:28, 1:09:32]: You're obligating yourself to go on with now the police department. [1:09:32, 1:09:35]: Do you all know what the operating budget would be? [1:09:35, 1:09:37]: You're prepared to fund it next year. [1:09:40, 1:09:41]: I thank you, sir. Appreciate it. [1:09:41, 1:09:45]: Councilman uh Councilwoman Barber, go ahead. You had your hand raised. [1:09:47, 1:09:52]: I wanted um Mr. Walls to share all of the financials. [1:09:52, 1:09:54]: Um regarding the police department. [1:09:55, 1:10:01]: I know in his original projections, he didn't account for any offer funding. [1:10:01, 1:10:03]: Or any grants. [1:10:03, 1:10:04]: Um [1:10:04, 1:10:06]: So I wanted him to just kind of spell out. [1:10:07, 1:10:18]: all of the financials, if you could. Yes. Yes, ma'am. Thank you. So when uh I had run uh two uh options, an aggressive approach and a conservative approach. [1:10:19, 1:10:21]: I don't know, back during maybe May or June. [1:10:22, 1:10:26]: I budgeted two point six milyen dollars for the police force. [1:10:27, 1:10:31]: for half of a year and I think it was five point six million dollars for a whole year. [1:10:32, 1:10:41]: I had some discussions with the chief. I was out in Wyoming for two weeks, um, toward the end of October. I wasn't able to meet your make your October twenty sixth meeting. [1:10:41, 1:10:42]: Um [1:10:42, 1:10:47]: I think the operating budget now is about six million in change, isn't that right, Chief? [1:10:50, 1:10:52]: Well you mute a chief. [1:10:53, 1:11:00]: No, sir. It's around five point seven. And and Mr. Wall, I have your uh your your GF projection uh [1:11:00, 1:11:04]: If if you'd like me to share that screen, I certainly can uh please sir, I I would [1:11:05, 1:11:06]: Please do. Okay. [1:11:06, 1:11:07]: Um [1:11:08, 1:11:11]: So let me see if I can do this again. [1:11:16, 1:11:17]: Can you all see this? [1:11:17, 1:11:25]: Yes, sir, we see it. Go ahead, please. Okay. So Mr. Wall, I did want to point out, however, that um what we did that I don't believe was incorporated um [1:11:26, 1:11:34]: In uh in in your projections, we we we plugged in the property tax data for the rollback uh for the police department here. [1:11:34, 1:11:40]: And then updated these figures on line 61 right here, if you can see that. [1:11:40, 1:11:45]: This would be the cost for the police department for um for next year for half a year. [1:11:46, 1:11:50]: And this would be the projected cost based on inflation for twenty twenty three. [1:11:51, 1:12:02]: And this would be for inflation um moving forward into twenty twenty four. And these are these are data fields that you had already uh put formulas in, Mr. Wall. So I didn't manipulate this data. All I took was the [1:12:02, 1:12:06]: uh the budget information that we hadn't plugged it in here and so I just wanted you to [1:12:06, 1:12:09]: understand it th this current um [1:12:09, 1:12:11]: XL file here reflects [1:12:12, 1:12:12]: Uh those [1:12:13, 1:12:15]: Police department numbers that have been put in. [1:12:15, 1:12:19]: Um and and your formula data has calculated the rest of it. [1:12:20, 1:12:21]: Thank you, sir. And then if you would [1:12:25, 1:12:26]: Mr. Wall, you still there? [1:12:29, 1:12:30]: It's a wall. [1:12:33, 1:12:36]: Thank you so much. Can you hear me, boss? Now now we hear you. So go ahead, please. [1:12:36, 1:12:37]: I hit a wrong button. [1:12:38, 1:12:39]: Um [1:12:39, 1:12:41]: So up at the top, the revenues. [1:12:42, 1:12:44]: If you all could look at the [1:12:44, 1:12:45]: Henry County Millage rate. [1:12:46, 1:12:46]: Um [1:12:48, 1:12:51]: Of at the top that one point eight two four mils. [1:12:51, 1:12:54]: So starting July of next year. [1:12:54, 1:12:56]: That amount of money. [1:12:56, 1:13:00]: uh would be levied by you and not by Henry County anymore. [1:13:00, 1:13:01]: And this budget. [1:13:01, 1:13:05]: Anticipates an extra millage levy by you of two point five mills. [1:13:06, 1:13:07]: July of next year. [1:13:08, 1:13:09]: For citizens to pay it. [1:13:09, 1:13:12]: With their regular property taxes in December. [1:13:13, 1:13:14]: It's also assumed [1:13:14, 1:13:15]: A um [1:13:16, 1:13:19]: uh court fines because we'll be writing our own tickets. [1:13:20, 1:13:25]: Of approximately a million twenty seven thousand five eighty nine less license and permits. [1:13:26, 1:13:30]: Roll down the screen, Chief, if you would to get defines forfeitures. There you go. [1:13:31, 1:13:32]: And um [1:13:33, 1:13:40]: I think it's right here, Mr. Wallace. This is court revenues on line thirty. There you go. Great. So it's a million one hundred thousand dollars. [1:13:41, 1:13:43]: And uh that was consistent with what we had. [1:13:44, 1:13:44]: Uh [1:13:45, 1:13:46]: Our court system had produced. [1:13:47, 1:13:53]: I can't remember what year we had a police force, but it was several years back, but that was the amount of money that it produced then. [1:13:55, 1:13:56]: All right. [1:13:57, 1:14:00]: So uh Councilwoman Barber, it's uh the assumptions are [1:14:01, 1:14:06]: that um it'll be the county millage rate plus two point five mills. [1:14:06, 1:14:07]: Um [1:14:07, 1:14:11]: That we would levy next year to fund the operations the police force. [1:14:11, 1:14:15]: We would start the capital with the three billion from the ARP money. [1:14:15, 1:14:20]: three million that we borrowed in the uh series C bonds that we closed this past March. [1:14:27, 1:14:33]: Okay. Council, any questions in reference in reference to this document that you see before you? [1:14:34, 1:14:40]: And Miss Barber Gloria. Yes, can you can you give us the mayor? I'm sorry. Can you give the total [1:14:40, 1:14:46]: Amount what's expected. If five point seven, we're rounding up to about six million operating budget costs. [1:14:47, 1:14:55]: Because that's the number I got from the previous presentation. And when do we get to 2.5 mils? Because uh [1:14:55, 1:15:00]: Other email that was sent back in June said 3.5 mils. [1:15:00, 1:15:07]: So and the tax um commissioner, tax commissioner, Mr. Um Michael Harris said three point. [1:15:07, 1:15:12]: Three mils. I'm sorry, you said three point three mils, not three point three, but three mils. [1:15:13, 1:15:16]: So what number is it actually going to be? [1:15:16, 1:15:19]: And then what is gonna be our annual [1:15:20, 1:15:22]: Operating budget. [1:15:22, 1:15:24]: Including [1:15:25, 1:15:28]: the increase because it looks like in twenty [1:15:29, 1:15:30]: We went we go from sixteen [1:15:31, 1:15:33]: Point four mil. [1:15:34, 1:15:36]: In total revenues, well, I'm sorry. [1:15:37, 1:15:38]: Oh, I look at revenues. [1:15:39, 1:15:43]: I wanna look at cost. It looks like it doubles here back in two twenty four. [1:15:44, 1:15:48]: So we go we're right now we're at like what eighteen [1:15:49, 1:15:52]: eight point eight and we're gonna and by two twenty twenty four. [1:15:53, 1:15:55]: We'll be at about eighteen point nine. [1:15:55, 1:15:58]: And I saw the budget tonight. We're up at seventeen. [1:15:59, 1:16:02]: Our budget has increased from twelve to seventeen. [1:16:02, 1:16:03]: For twenty twenty two. [1:16:04, 1:16:05]: From twenty twenty one. [1:16:05, 1:16:06]: So [1:16:06, 1:16:07]: Based off of what [1:16:08, 1:16:11]: is gonna be proposed tonight. So give me some actual [1:16:11, 1:16:13]: Numbers. Is it a three point five mil? [1:16:14, 1:16:17]: Is it a three mil or is it a two point five mil? [1:16:18, 1:16:28]: And then this is Councilwoman Gantt talking, isn't it? Yes. That is correct. Yes, ma'am. Okay, you got it. So look at the revenues up at the top, and we'll start with the sales tax. [1:16:28, 1:16:34]: You go across the page sales tax, the 2020 actual was five million seven hundred four. [1:16:34, 1:16:38]: The twenty one projected was five million seven oh four. [1:16:38, 1:16:43]: We've increased twenty twenty two to five million eight hundred and eighteen thousand'cause your sales tax have been increasing. [1:16:44, 1:16:46]: Notice twenty twenty three is five point nine million. [1:16:48, 1:16:49]: Notice that the property taxes [1:16:50, 1:16:51]: You'll see right there, um [1:16:52, 1:16:53]: Other taxes. [1:16:53, 1:16:53]: Um [1:16:54, 1:16:54]: You see [1:16:55, 1:16:59]: That would be the insurance premium, rollback tax, the uh other taxes that we have. [1:16:59, 1:17:00]: And [1:17:00, 1:17:01]: And then the court finds. [1:17:02, 1:17:08]: And so the difference in the three mils that was or three point three mils that was projected versus this two and a half. [1:17:09, 1:17:09]: Is [1:17:10, 1:17:13]: Is i an increased assumption on this spreadsheet. [1:17:14, 1:17:15]: Court fines. [1:17:15, 1:17:17]: Sales tax increases. [1:17:17, 1:17:18]: And um [1:17:19, 1:17:20]: Um [1:17:20, 1:17:25]: If we don't if we have a recession and sales taxes decline. [1:17:25, 1:17:33]: uh and the court fines aren't that high, then you would have a higher tax or you'd use some of your fund balance until you could correct the situation. [1:17:33, 1:17:37]: But the difference in the three point three mils versus two and a half mils. [1:17:38, 1:17:40]: Was the assumption in sales tax collections? [1:17:40, 1:17:41]: Court fines. [1:17:42, 1:17:45]: And then you're correct that your budget [1:17:45, 1:17:45]: Si [1:17:46, 1:17:47]: He's gone from [1:17:48, 1:17:50]: Two thousand and twenty from twelve million [1:17:51, 1:17:53]: Fourteen million to sixteen million. [1:17:54, 1:17:54]: Twenty one million. [1:17:57, 1:17:58]: Mm-hmm. In two years. [1:17:59, 1:18:00]: That is [1:18:00, 1:18:02]: That is an accurate figure. [1:18:04, 1:18:07]: Well, the budget that they're proposing tonight is seventeen mil. [1:18:08, 1:18:09]: And I'm sure we're gonna tweak that, but [1:18:10, 1:18:14]: Um my concern is looking at the numbers here. [1:18:14, 1:18:21]: Um, the money for the opera funds is for startup costs. Is that not correct, Chief Tramer? [1:18:22, 1:18:42]: Ma'am, we have latitude in terms of how we use it. Um, I I just want to I wanna be considerate of the other projects that the city has as it relates to water and stormwater improvements. And so um we may be able to utilize more of those funds, um, but we are right now just looking for utilization of about three million of that to offset the uh startup. [1:18:42, 1:18:43]: Capital cost. [1:18:44, 1:18:50]: Now we can use those funds for salaries. We can use those funds to offset some things for uh some time. [1:18:50, 1:18:56]: But again, that's gonna be based on the consensus of the council and how they wish to utilize those funds. [1:18:56, 1:19:00]: uh for the uh intended purposes that they're uh allowed to be utilized for. [1:19:01, 1:19:12]: And Mr. Wall, thank you, Mr. Chief Chamber. And Mr. Wall, the interest rate on this twenty five million dollar bond that three million dollars is coming out of, what's the what's the interest on that three million? [1:19:15, 1:19:19]: Oh man, I forgot. It's like two point eight five percent, I think. [1:19:20, 1:19:20]: Okay. [1:19:21, 1:19:24]: All righty. So it looks like we're doubling. [1:19:25, 1:19:31]: Um and even if that the money for ARPA, it's c clearly states at the beginning of that. [1:19:31, 1:19:50]: When any if anyone can Google it or do whatever they want to do, but it clearly states the first second paragraphs that ARPA funds aren't used for startups. Now we can use it for that. It just highly recommends that you don't do that because the years after that, we have to handle our operating costs. [1:19:50, 1:19:57]: So to me, these funds would be for our startup, which based off of the numbers that I got previously. [1:19:58, 1:20:03]: Um, but I got two different numbers. One had forty-three officers, and I believe the last town hall. [1:20:04, 1:20:05]: was around fifty. [1:20:06, 1:20:10]: Um, based off of those numbers that I received recently. [1:20:11, 1:20:13]: It looks like [1:20:13, 1:20:17]: Those startup costs would be around twelve [1:20:17, 1:20:19]: Twelve mil, is that not? [1:20:19, 1:20:20]: Startup plus [1:20:21, 1:20:25]: um operating, would that be around 12 mils? Is that correct? [1:20:27, 1:20:44]: No, we we would be looking at about six million dollars in startup costs. Uh councilwoman. Plus the operating for the year. Well the operating the operating would ru roughly we're calculating seven months for twenty twenty two because we won't be fully operational until July one. So that's where this, if you can see here, the three point three million dollars. [1:20:45, 1:20:48]: comes into play for fiscal year twenty twenty two. [1:20:48, 1:20:51]: Uh operator. What would that total cost would be? [1:20:51, 1:20:54]: That would be the total cost for twenty twenty two. [1:20:55, 1:20:55]: Would be what? [1:20:56, 1:20:58]: Three point three two five million dollars. [1:20:59, 1:20:59]: Okay. [1:21:00, 1:21:12]: And then the year after that, what what do you project the cost of it? That we're anticipating now with three percent inflation. [1:21:12, 1:21:15]: That's the inflation cost for that. And so [1:21:15, 1:21:27]: Uh that's the reason that the budget uh would increase by that number. And you can see, I think, and I just wanted to clarify here so that everybody's clear that these are revenue numbers up here, 16,000, 20,000, and 21. [1:21:27, 1:21:36]: that the actual expenditures are down here fourteen thousand eighteen and eighteen and twenty four, which still leaves a profit for the city. We're not in the black. [1:21:37, 1:21:40]: Of over two million dollars, even with these increases. [1:21:40, 1:21:42]: Am I interpreting that correctly, Mr. Wall? [1:21:44, 1:21:45]: Say it to me again, Chief. [1:21:46, 1:21:53]: Well, if we look here at the top, we're looking at revenues. So the revenue for the city in in this year is twenty twenty two, sixteen million. [1:21:53, 1:22:07]: In 2023, it's 20 million. In 2024, it's 21 million in projected revenue. And if we minus our expenses, which is 14, 18, and 18, we're still ending up with a profit, not a loss. [1:22:07, 1:22:08]: Of over two million dollars. [1:22:09, 1:22:15]: But we have to look down below that you have to spend a million six for the debt service on the [1:22:15, 1:22:18]: debt for City Hall. Okay, which would still leave us [1:22:19, 1:22:21]: In the in the in the good for about [1:22:21, 1:22:23]: six hundred thousand dollars. [1:22:23, 1:22:26]: Can you talk about our fund balance, the whole balance? [1:22:28, 1:22:32]: So the fund the the fund balance is the last numbers below that. [1:22:32, 1:22:34]: Couple of them again. So the fund balance [1:22:36, 1:22:37]: Yeah, we'll be is [1:22:37, 1:22:41]: So in two thousand and twenty one we expect the fund balance to be um [1:22:42, 1:22:43]: thirteen million nine oh one. [1:22:45, 1:22:46]: Okay. [1:22:46, 1:22:52]: So you I maybe it's nineteen million two forty and nineteen, thirteen million nine oh one and twenty. [1:22:52, 1:22:56]: Fifteen million six fifty five and twenty one we were projecting. [1:22:56, 1:22:57]: Um [1:22:57, 1:23:03]: And then you can see it's going up by about six hundred grand a year based on these numbers. But remember [1:23:03, 1:23:07]: So it's a twenty million dollar budget, ten percent is two million. [1:23:07, 1:23:13]: Five percent is one million, so it's about a what a three and a half or four percent swing. So [1:23:14, 1:23:19]: These you know, an Excel spreadsheet ain't a Bible verse, it's just a projection. And so [1:23:20, 1:23:20]: Um [1:23:20, 1:23:27]: We have to watch it, you know, month to month when Wiggins does the numbers to make sure it's it's working out the way these numbers show. This [1:23:28, 1:23:30]: Is it in a Bible verse? Um [1:23:30, 1:23:31]: I got it. [1:23:32, 1:23:34]: Okay. Well, I'm concerned about the inflation. [1:23:35, 1:23:40]: and consideration. But I from my understand when looking at the budget, we're practically doubling. [1:23:41, 1:23:42]: Within two years. [1:23:43, 1:23:46]: And so when do we plan on starting to tax the citizens? [1:23:47, 1:23:49]: Uh next next year, twenty two. [1:23:50, 1:23:51]: Cause I was told [1:23:52, 1:23:55]: Mayor Pro Tem, didn't you say we wouldn't tax the system into twenty twenty three? [1:23:57, 1:23:59]: So that didn't you say that at the last meeting? [1:24:00, 1:24:06]: So this projection, Councilwoman Gantt, has you implementing the Kenry County Millage rate next year? [1:24:07, 1:24:10]: Then you would inc you would increase the two and a half mils [1:24:10, 1:24:11]: Me three. [1:24:11, 1:24:14]: 'Cause you're only gonna have a half a year of operations. [1:24:14, 1:24:15]: twenty two. [1:24:16, 1:24:17]: May I respond to that? [1:24:18, 1:24:19]: Yeah, go ahead, sir. [1:24:19, 1:24:24]: I think the answer was correct to understand that the Henry County rate [1:24:24, 1:24:28]: will go down and then that will be offset equally by [1:24:28, 1:24:32]: uh the stock bridge rate. So basically the remain the the rate [1:24:32, 1:24:36]: remain static so there would not be a net increase. [1:24:37, 1:24:38]: In twenty two, yes, sir. [1:24:38, 1:24:39]: Correct. [1:24:40, 1:24:48]: Yes. But in twenty twenty three we'll have an increase. Is that what y'all was saying? No. Let me say this too. Now that could happen. [1:24:48, 1:24:59]: But in my eyes, we still have more ARPA funds at that point. We if we decide to insert some additional funds from ARPA or from budget surpluses. [1:24:59, 1:25:06]: We could eliminate the tax in 2023 also. So it's up to this council when that happens. Not that's what the projections say. [1:25:09, 1:25:09]: Okay. [1:25:12, 1:25:13]: Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [1:25:15, 1:25:20]: Mayor Pro Tem is correct. In fact, uh Chief Tramer and I, when we spoke with [1:25:20, 1:25:22]: uh the policy director. [1:25:22, 1:25:23]: Four DNA. [1:25:24, 1:25:29]: She gave us the time well, the deadlines. Uh December thirty first, twenty [1:25:30, 1:25:30]: Twenty four. [1:25:31, 1:25:35]: Projects can be allocated by using ARPA funding. [1:25:36, 1:25:38]: Those projects in [1:25:38, 1:25:40]: The expenses have to be [1:25:41, 1:25:41]: Hey. [1:25:42, 1:25:42]: Or [1:25:42, 1:25:47]: expended by twenty twenty six, the end of twenty twenty six. [1:25:47, 1:25:50]: Is that correct, Chief Trainer? Am I explaining it right? [1:25:51, 1:26:00]: Yes, that's correct. It the the projects have to be allocated for 2024, but we have until the end of twenty six to actually utilize those funds, as I understand, based on our conversation. [1:26:00, 1:26:07]: Uh that that would be that would be an accurate statement, yes. And I and I did want to point out too one of the things that we did mention, uh Mr. Wall regarding [1:26:07, 1:26:11]: uh the ARPA funds is as it relates to utilization, the city [1:26:11, 1:26:18]: uh did not have a deficit caused by the pandemic. So we wouldn't be eligible to utilize or reimburse ourselves for those funds because of that reason. [1:26:19, 1:26:24]: And the city didn't also pay premium pays, so we wouldn't be eligible to use it for those reasons. So really [1:26:24, 1:26:32]: As it relates to public safety and public works, those those seem to be the only two uses that we can utilize those funds. Am I correct on that, Mr. Wall? [1:26:32, 1:26:33]: Yes, sir. [1:26:37, 1:26:37]: Right. [1:26:38, 1:26:40]: Any other questions from the council? [1:26:41, 1:26:47]: Mr Mr. Thomas, go ahead please, sir. I I I just wanted to make a comment of to to concur. [1:26:47, 1:27:01]: Um, this is also my understanding of how funds could be utilized uh going into 2024 up to 2026. But one one of the issues that I want to sort of just raise is that. [1:27:02, 1:27:05]: Looking at revenues, even during the pandemic. [1:27:05, 1:27:08]: Um it was it was definitely increased as well. [1:27:09, 1:27:12]: But the but the point I really want to make about is is about the budget. [1:27:13, 1:27:18]: Um and and the utilization of these funds, the council. [1:27:18, 1:27:38]: Has the leeway to how we utilize these funds. We also have the authority and the control uh on the city's budget, and all of us know that there's always um room for reduction in the city budget. We control that so. [1:27:38, 1:27:52]: The the the budget is not a automatic increase, uh no way, no, no shape, no form. We control that. But the bottom line for me though is, and I as I have said it from the beginning. [1:27:53, 1:28:02]: It is our obligation and our responsibility to provide public safety uh to our citizens, to our businesses. It is up to us. [1:28:03, 1:28:04]: Two [1:28:04, 1:28:24]: ensure that we are doing our due diligence and making sure that we go forward with this. And there are trials and error and there are uh you know challenges as well. But is it up to us to make sure that we do not get caught up in in the crosshairs and and moving this city forward. And so [1:28:24, 1:28:40]: So I'm confident that we will, uh with Mr. Wall, with the chief and all of our advisors and the staff, that we will be on top of going forward every every month. And so I'm not concerned about, I'm not, I'm not fearful. [1:28:40, 1:28:52]: of the future because I know we're going to do our due diligence and we don't really have a choice. We have to provide public safety for our citizens. And as we have seen here recently, [1:28:53, 1:29:00]: all over the metro, even within Henry County, we see the crime rate. So this is a must. [1:29:00, 1:29:04]: But it is up to us to be able to navigate and manage. [1:29:05, 1:29:07]: Let me emphasize the word manage. [1:29:07, 1:29:19]: It is up to us to be able to manage how we go forward. And I'm I'm I'm I'm excited about going forward. And I think we're going to do. I'm just listening to the presentation tonight. [1:29:19, 1:29:33]: Um Mr. Walls, you've done your homework and you've always been uh that person that came forward and gave us facts. And you know we heard that. Chief Tram, I'm gonna commend you for uh your due diligence and your homework. [1:29:33, 1:29:37]: Um it's council, you know, we we are doing the same, but [1:29:38, 1:29:41]: It it the burden is on us to make sure that we manage. [1:29:42, 1:29:45]: how we go forward. For me, the mission is clear. [1:29:45, 1:29:47]: The path is clear. [1:29:47, 1:29:55]: But we have to sort of stay on top of this and manage going forward. So just thank you all for the presentation and your due diligence. [1:29:56, 1:29:58]: Any other council comments before we move on? [1:30:00, 1:30:02]: You know, council comments. [1:30:03, 1:30:13]: Okay. Now this was a presentation. I don't recall this being any type of a vote that is necessary for this presentation. Is that right? Or am I off base here? [1:30:15, 1:30:20]: I believe this is just a presentation to inform the council that Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [1:30:21, 1:30:27]: Um I had questions for Mr. Wall and for Mr. Wiggins. Okay. [1:30:27, 1:30:32]: Want to make sure that we're balancing the use of those ARPA fundings. [1:30:33, 1:30:39]: I like to see how much we've already spent in public works and ARPA funding. [1:30:39, 1:30:43]: Um so that we make sure that we're balancing this. And for Mr. [1:30:43, 1:30:44]: Wow. [1:30:45, 1:30:45]: Um [1:30:46, 1:30:47]: I'm trying to see. [1:30:48, 1:30:52]: He doesn't he didn't account for any ARPA funding or any. [1:30:53, 1:30:54]: Grant. [1:30:54, 1:30:55]: Funding. [1:30:58, 1:30:59]: At all. [1:30:59, 1:31:01]: No ma'am. Uh we didn't [1:31:02, 1:31:09]: Okay. I don't know what the date I don't know what the date of this is, but I don't think we knew what what we were getting at the time I did this pre this this Excel spreadsheet. [1:31:09, 1:31:12]: Okay, but you did account for the expenses. [1:31:13, 1:31:14]: So what if [1:31:14, 1:31:16]: Well so the in the ARP money [1:31:17, 1:31:20]: We're currently contemplating it spending it only on capital. [1:31:21, 1:31:25]: This Excel spreadsheet is only for operations. It doesn't include capital. [1:31:27, 1:31:29]: Okay. Does that does that make sense? [1:31:29, 1:31:30]: Yes, thank you. [1:31:31, 1:31:31]: Yes, ma'am. [1:31:32, 1:31:36]: Is Mr. Wigan still on the line? Yes, he is. [1:31:36, 1:31:38]: Are you able to tell me how much? [1:31:38, 1:31:41]: Funding we've already spent with public works. [1:31:42, 1:31:44]: Isso, pode passar. [1:31:45, 1:31:48]: I can get you an accurate number. Um [1:31:48, 1:31:56]: Okay. Borrow, but uh if if I can remember, I I don't think we've spent uh no more than probably about seventy thousand. [1:31:57, 1:31:57]: So far. [1:31:58, 1:31:58]: Mm-hmm. [1:31:59, 1:32:02]: But I'll I'll I'll I'll confirm that by tomorrow. [1:32:03, 1:32:04]: All right. Appreciate it. [1:32:04, 1:32:05]: Yeah. [1:32:05, 1:32:10]: Now references presentations. My understanding is a presentation. It wasn't any specific vote that we needed to make. Is that correct? [1:32:13, 1:32:19]: All right, if that's the c if that is the case, then uh we will move on to the next subject. Thank you, gentlemen, for your presentation. Really appreciate that. [1:32:20, 1:32:23]: We're gonna go to old business and old business deals with a public hearing. [1:32:24, 1:32:34]: And uh the first public hearing deals with rezoning case RZ two zero two one-one. Council consideration to approve proposed Davison Parkway Commerce Center. [1:32:35, 1:32:41]: Rezoning request by East Group Properties LP, the applicant to rezone certain property from C three heavy commercial. [1:32:42, 1:32:44]: to M one light manufacturing. [1:32:45, 1:32:50]: to allow for development of business distribution center within five within five new buildings. [1:32:50, 1:32:55]: The property is located at land lot 57 of the 12th district within the Stockbridge city limits. [1:32:56, 1:33:02]: It contains three parcels with uh 79.17 acres as follows. [1:33:03, 1:33:10]: Parcel zero three zero dash zero one zero zero nine zero zero zero contains seventy three point eight acres. [1:33:10, 1:33:15]: Located to the rear of the southwest corner of Davison Parkway and Walter Way. [1:33:15, 1:33:28]: Parcel 030-01009006 contains 1.66 acres located on the south side of Davidson Parkway, one lot west of Walter Way. [1:33:28, 1:33:42]: Parcel number 030-01009005 contains 3.63 acres located on the west side of Walterway, two lots south of Davison Parkway. [1:33:42, 1:33:45]: And this I believe is going to be presented by [1:33:45, 1:33:47]: Ms. Johnson, is that correct? [1:33:49, 1:33:55]: Hello, Mayor Ford. It's actually going to be presented by um Linda Logan, our senior planner. [1:33:55, 1:33:57]: Okay, Miss Logan. [1:33:57, 1:33:58]: Under? [1:33:58, 1:34:01]: Yes, hello everyone. Uh good evening. [1:34:01, 1:34:02]: Yeah. [1:34:04, 1:34:07]: I'm gonna set up my I have my presentations open. [1:34:07, 1:34:10]: Um clicked on the share screen button here. [1:34:15, 1:34:16]: Okay. [1:34:17, 1:34:20]: Is that can anyone see this? Can't can't see a thing at this point, please. [1:34:25, 1:34:27]: Okay, here we go. [1:34:27, 1:34:28]: See now? [1:34:29, 1:34:31]: Yes, there we go. Now we now we see it. [1:34:31, 1:34:32]: Okay, so this is [1:34:34, 1:34:35]: This is a cover sheet, Mayor. You [1:34:36, 1:34:38]: covered a lot of this. You read the um [1:34:38, 1:34:43]: Okay. [1:34:43, 1:34:46]: Represented by Ba Battle Law Law Firm. [1:34:46, 1:34:52]: That who's the agent, the rez the rezoning request is to rezone property from C three heavy commercial. [1:34:52, 1:34:54]: M1 light manufacturing. [1:34:54, 1:34:55]: Um [1:34:55, 1:34:57]: And this is the parcel information now. [1:34:58, 1:35:02]: There were three parcels which you read into the record, Mr. Mayor. The applicant though has [1:35:03, 1:35:05]: Requested that one of the parcels um [1:35:06, 1:35:06]: Be removed. [1:35:07, 1:35:11]: uh from further consideration that is a small parcel across from [1:35:12, 1:35:13]: Uh Walter Way. [1:35:13, 1:35:21]: And that is a parcel number 030 hyphen 01009005 with 3.63 acres. [1:35:21, 1:35:24]: Because that is not part of the project. [1:35:25, 1:35:32]: So now the the lot size and the acreage is now seventy-five point five four acres within the two parcels. [1:35:32, 1:35:37]: property is located in northwest Stark Bridge, south of Davidson Parkway and west of [1:35:38, 1:35:41]: Walter Way, landlot fifty seven of district twelve. [1:35:41, 1:35:43]: Um right now the property is [1:35:44, 1:35:50]: uh fairly level, it's vacant, mostly wooded. We have Reese Reeves Creek traversing the eastern side of the property. [1:35:52, 1:35:52]: Yeah. [1:35:53, 1:35:54]: And um [1:35:55, 1:35:59]: The zoning is C three proposed use is development of a [1:35:59, 1:36:02]: A business distribution center comprising five buildings. [1:36:03, 1:36:09]: With office and warehouse uses with a total of six hundred ninety-five thousand eight hundred and sixty square feet. [1:36:11, 1:36:18]: We looked at the zoning uh history of the property. There were multiple rezonings for the n adjacent North Bridge Crossing development, which has [1:36:18, 1:36:20]: Residential uses. [1:36:20, 1:36:23]: And that had a DRI review, a development of regional impact. [1:36:24, 1:36:29]: Um went to Atlanta Regional Commission and Georgia Regional Transportation Authority. [1:36:29, 1:36:31]: Um there was a um [1:36:31, 1:36:34]: zoning case and a development agreement for North Bridge Crossing. [1:36:35, 1:36:40]: Um then after that there was a Reeves Creek development, which also had a DRI review. [1:36:40, 1:36:42]: And um and then this project. [1:36:42, 1:36:45]: uh itself had a DRI review as well. [1:36:46, 1:36:47]: uh done a few months ago. [1:36:48, 1:36:52]: The future land use designation of the property is low density vertical mixed use. [1:36:53, 1:36:53]: Um [1:36:54, 1:36:56]: This designation um does not allow. [1:36:56, 1:36:58]: host M1 zoning district. [1:36:59, 1:37:01]: It needs to be changed to light industrial. [1:37:01, 1:37:03]: And the applicant has applied. [1:37:03, 1:37:07]: At the same time for comprehensive la uh plan amendment. [1:37:07, 1:37:12]: via case number CP two oh two one hyphen oh one for this purpose. [1:37:12, 1:37:17]: The road access would be by a small parcel off Davidson Parkway. [1:37:17, 1:37:19]: And um site traffic would come. [1:37:20, 1:37:23]: From interstate семті файв and six seventif. [1:37:23, 1:37:27]: Highway one thirty eight, uh in Clayton County portion of Davidson. [1:37:27, 1:37:28]: Parkway to the north. [1:37:29, 1:37:30]: Emergency [1:37:31, 1:37:34]: um access would also uh be available. [1:37:35, 1:37:37]: Uh through the large parcel of Walter Way. [1:37:38, 1:37:40]: Application was received on July sixth. [1:37:41, 1:37:45]: And um, as you know, the applicant requested a recent deferral at the last meeting. [1:37:46, 1:37:49]: Now the applicant has held three community meetings. [1:37:49, 1:37:53]: To um talk with citizens about the project on august eighteenth. [1:37:54, 1:37:56]: September fifteenth and October twenty seventh. [1:37:57, 1:37:59]: He posted a sign on the property September second. [1:38:00, 1:38:01]: And then we um [1:38:02, 1:38:03]: Reposted the sign after the kit. [1:38:04, 1:38:06]: Case was deferred on October twenty two. [1:38:07, 1:38:12]: Uh some of the things we looked at in the research was the location. [1:38:12, 1:38:16]: Um the property characteristics surrounding land use and zoning. [1:38:16, 1:38:18]: uh future development plans. [1:38:18, 1:38:19]: Um [1:38:19, 1:38:22]: Other studies like Livable Centers Initiative. [1:38:23, 1:38:26]: The um other rezonings as I mentioned a moment ago. [1:38:27, 1:38:31]: Um here is an aerial photo of the property. We have interstates. [1:38:31, 1:38:35]: uh seventy five and and six seventy five here to the west [1:38:35, 1:38:37]: This is the main part of the site. [1:38:38, 1:38:40]: We have the North Bridge Crossing. [1:38:40, 1:38:42]: Residential development here. [1:38:42, 1:38:46]: And then uh d this is Davidson Parkway to the north. [1:38:47, 1:38:49]: And there's a Clayton County line there. [1:38:50, 1:38:52]: And adjacent to this is um [1:38:53, 1:38:55]: M one use of drive time property. [1:38:57, 1:39:01]: Next slide uh shows the uh the three parcels. [1:39:01, 1:39:03]: And and here's Davison partway. [1:39:04, 1:39:07]: The main access would actually occur through this small parcel. [1:39:08, 1:39:11]: Um, this middle one that's the one that's no longer being included. [1:39:12, 1:39:14]: And then this is the large parcel here. [1:39:15, 1:39:20]: Uh surrounding land uses and I'm gonna flip back and forth a moment between two slides. [1:39:21, 1:39:21]: Um [1:39:21, 1:39:26]: Here this is a zoning map in color. The red is the main portion of the site. [1:39:26, 1:39:27]: And um [1:39:28, 1:39:29]: We have um [1:39:29, 1:39:32]: Number one on the site on here is [1:39:32, 1:39:34]: As a Clayton County line with uh [1:39:34, 1:39:36]: Vacant properties. [1:39:36, 1:39:37]: And um [1:39:38, 1:39:41]: Number two is uh also uh vacant. [1:39:42, 1:39:44]: And that's that's in the city. [1:39:44, 1:39:45]: Zone C two. [1:39:46, 1:39:52]: Uh number three, we have uh automobile sh furbishing business that's down here in the blue. [1:39:53, 1:39:55]: And uh number four, um [1:39:56, 1:39:57]: Henry County uses [1:39:58, 1:39:59]: To the south. [1:39:59, 1:40:02]: That's still also the the county line there. [1:40:04, 1:40:06]: And number five, North North Bridge Crossing. [1:40:06, 1:40:08]: Single family zone RM two. [1:40:09, 1:40:09]: Um [1:40:10, 1:40:14]: And it has single family uses right now. That's all that this dark green area. [1:40:15, 1:40:18]: And uh number s number six, of course. [1:40:18, 1:40:21]: are the interstate highways to the west. [1:40:23, 1:40:28]: Uh, one of the studies was the LCI study done a few years ago and it identified [1:40:28, 1:40:34]: Uh this area is being an I seventy five activity center and this is a concept plan that was prepared. [1:40:34, 1:40:36]: Some of the uses in here that are [1:40:36, 1:40:41]: Uh wo were recommended commercial use of hotel, office buildings. [1:40:41, 1:40:43]: uh retail uses and so forth. [1:40:44, 1:40:46]: For the area and this is the actual site here. [1:40:47, 1:40:50]: With uh the inner states uh to the south. So this was their [1:40:50, 1:40:52]: Vision of how [1:40:52, 1:40:52]: Sorry. [1:40:52, 1:40:53]: uh could develop. [1:40:54, 1:40:59]: And if you want to contrast that with what this this applicant is now proposing. [1:41:00, 1:41:02]: Again, we have the interstates here to the south. [1:41:02, 1:41:03]: This is a site. [1:41:03, 1:41:07]: And this is Davidson Parkway, just to orient you. [1:41:07, 1:41:12]: and a North Bridge Crossing and this is Walter Way here serves this development. [1:41:13, 1:41:15]: And here is the uh drive time. [1:41:16, 1:41:18]: Automobile refurbishing business. [1:41:18, 1:41:21]: So the applicant proposes to build five [1:41:22, 1:41:26]: Uh buildings would be um office combination office warehouse uses. [1:41:27, 1:41:30]: And access would be here off Davidson Parkway. [1:41:30, 1:41:31]: There is the Reeves Creek. [1:41:32, 1:41:33]: Running through the site. [1:41:33, 1:41:35]: And there would the the driveway. [1:41:36, 1:41:40]: uh would be near there and there'd be a a walking trail adjacent to it. [1:41:40, 1:41:41]: Uh [1:41:41, 1:41:46]: Quite a bit of surface parking as you can see in the gray for both employee and [1:41:47, 1:41:49]: Um trailer truck uh parking spaces. [1:41:51, 1:41:52]: Okay. [1:41:52, 1:41:58]: Uh project impact. So a traffic impact study was performed by the applicant's traffic engineer. [1:41:59, 1:42:00]: Um [1:42:00, 1:42:07]: And uh one of the things that we noticed is that it stated that nearboy nearby intersections would operate at levels of service E and F. [1:42:08, 1:42:10]: Those are uh the least desirable. [1:42:11, 1:42:13]: Uh yet no traffic improvements were recommended. [1:42:14, 1:42:17]: Uh the DRI review was done by uh Greta. [1:42:18, 1:42:19]: In their notice of decision. [1:42:19, 1:42:23]: Um, they identified a few conditions for spending state funds. [1:42:24, 1:42:25]: If this project were to be built. [1:42:26, 1:42:27]: And these include [1:42:27, 1:42:31]: Providing sidewalks along the development's frontage on P Davidson Parkway. [1:42:32, 1:42:34]: Stalling a crosswalk at the driveway entrance. [1:42:35, 1:42:39]: Installing pedestrian infrastructure within the site along the driveway. [1:42:39, 1:42:41]: And installing signage to restrict [1:42:42, 1:42:47]: trucks on Davidson Parkway between Walter Way and North Henry Boulevard to prevent them from going. [1:42:47, 1:42:50]: East and that's something that the city also supports. [1:42:51, 1:42:57]: Um the DRI review done by Atlanta Regional Commission ARC said the project would be [1:42:57, 1:43:00]: compatible with several of their regional plans and policies. [1:43:02, 1:43:03]: Okay. [1:43:04, 1:43:05]: Um [1:43:05, 1:43:09]: In our analysis, we have a number of criteria we looked at. [1:43:09, 1:43:12]: Criteria number one, consistency with this comprehensive plan. [1:43:13, 1:43:18]: Proposed project would not be compatible with because proposed M1 zoning district is not allowed. [1:43:19, 1:43:21]: in the property's current land use designation. [1:43:22, 1:43:28]: Criteria number two, relation of the proposed zoning amendment to the overall purpose of the zoning code. [1:43:29, 1:43:31]: Uh zoning code has a number of purposes and [1:43:32, 1:43:33]: I listed them here. [1:43:33, 1:43:36]: So we're saying that the proposed use would not promote [1:43:37, 1:43:42]: The prosperity and general welfare of the adjacent North Bridge Crossing neighborhood. [1:43:42, 1:43:46]: It would add to rather than minimize congestion on the surrounding streets. [1:43:47, 1:43:48]: And disrupt um [1:43:49, 1:43:50]: residential neighborhood. [1:43:50, 1:43:51]: Truck. [1:43:51, 1:43:52]: Tractor trailer trucks. [1:43:52, 1:43:55]: could present safety hazards to pedestrians. [1:43:56, 1:44:00]: It would cause a significant concentration of population and overcrowding on the property. [1:44:01, 1:44:04]: There would be a huge influx of additional traffic in the neighborhood. [1:44:05, 1:44:10]: And since the property is landlocked, all project trucks would be required to utilize Davidson Partway. [1:44:11, 1:44:15]: And in general, it's not desirable to have industrial uses next to residential uses. [1:44:16, 1:44:16]: Um [1:44:17, 1:44:21]: And the property could alternatively be developed as it is currently zoned. [1:44:22, 1:44:25]: with commercial uses as three studies recommended. [1:44:25, 1:44:28]: LCI study, Northridge Cross and DRI and Reese Creek. [1:44:29, 1:44:30]: Uh D R I. [1:44:32, 1:44:41]: Uh next uh criterion number three, potential positive effects of the resulting amendment on the uh character of the uh neighborhood and community. [1:44:42, 1:44:44]: Um it would bring new jobs to the city, serve as a [1:44:45, 1:44:46]: visual gateway. [1:44:46, 1:44:47]: From the interstates. [1:44:48, 1:44:52]: and extend existing M one district uh adjacent to property to the south. [1:44:53, 1:44:57]: Criteria number four, physical conditions. The site is physically suitable. [1:44:57, 1:44:58]: Um [1:44:58, 1:45:00]: Again, but it's since it's landlocked it's not a good [1:45:01, 1:45:03]: good location for a large number of trucks that would need to [1:45:04, 1:45:05]: funnel through lar one [1:45:05, 1:45:06]: Access point. [1:45:07, 1:45:10]: Criterion number five, impact on adjacent property owners. [1:45:11, 1:45:14]: If this is re uh grant is um request is granted. [1:45:15, 1:45:21]: Proposed industrial use and large number of trucks would be incompatible with adjacent residential neighborhood. [1:45:22, 1:45:26]: uh disrupting its tranquility and presenting a hazard to pedestrians and personal vehicles. [1:45:27, 1:45:28]: Um [1:45:28, 1:45:34]: Now to reduce impacts of the existing drivetime traffic, that drive time is the property to the southeast. [1:45:35, 1:45:46]: on the adjacent residential neighborhood, it would be desirable if dry autonomous trucks could be rerouted to travel through the subject property with a connecting driveway between the two properties. [1:45:47, 1:45:50]: Um and therefore the applicant should continue to contact. [1:45:51, 1:45:54]: drive time officials to try to arrange for such a connection to be made. [1:45:56, 1:46:00]: Criterion number six potential impact of the rezoning on city infrastructure. [1:46:01, 1:46:04]: Water and sewer services are available to the site. [1:46:05, 1:46:12]: Number seven, impact the proposed amendment on adjacent thoroughfares and um pedestrian vehicle circulation. [1:46:12, 1:46:13]: And traffic volumes. [1:46:14, 1:46:18]: So again the traffic impact studies um mentioned levels. [1:46:18, 1:46:19]: Service levels E and F. [1:46:20, 1:46:21]: But um [1:46:21, 1:46:23]: No improvements at this time. [1:46:23, 1:46:24]: Um [1:46:24, 1:46:27]: I mentioned Greta's conditions approval. [1:46:27, 1:46:30]: And other thing other traffic impacts. [1:46:31, 1:46:34]: Uh Davidson Parkway may need to be re uh widened. [1:46:34, 1:46:36]: Due to the curvature of the roads. [1:46:37, 1:46:38]: And uh amount of traffic. [1:46:39, 1:46:46]: And also, there may be uh significant impacts of truck traffic on existing businesses on the northern part of. [1:46:46, 1:46:48]: Davidson Parkway. [1:46:48, 1:46:49]: Um [1:46:49, 1:46:53]: Criterion number eight, merits of this re this uh requested rezoning. [1:46:54, 1:46:58]: Um, proposed project would not be compatible with the recommendations again of those. [1:46:58, 1:47:01]: other studies that I mentioned a few moments ago. [1:47:02, 1:47:04]: Uh on number nine. [1:47:04, 1:47:07]: The ability of the subject land to be developed as it's currently zoned. [1:47:07, 1:47:10]: Again, we as those studies mentioned. [1:47:10, 1:47:15]: A property could be be developed under its current C three zoning. [1:47:15, 1:47:17]: Аз ресторанц, хотела [1:47:17, 1:47:22]: Medical facilities, convention center, and so forth. This is what uh the Reese Creek DRI. [1:47:22, 1:47:23]: Plan, um [1:47:23, 1:47:24]: Recommended. [1:47:25, 1:47:26]: And these would be [1:47:26, 1:47:29]: We view these as being pro preferable. [1:47:29, 1:47:33]: Preferable to the proposed industrial development for three reasons. [1:47:34, 1:47:37]: There'd be access absence of tractor trailer trucks. [1:47:37, 1:47:38]: Um [1:47:38, 1:47:40]: Even though it may be um [1:47:40, 1:47:49]: Commercial development may have more numbers of traffic, but yet that would be better than having so many trucks going through the neighborhood and the vicinity. [1:47:50, 1:47:53]: The other types of commercial y uses that could be developed. [1:47:54, 1:47:56]: could provide services to the general public. [1:47:57, 1:48:02]: Uh whereas a proposed industrial development would be more internally uh oriented. [1:48:02, 1:48:05]: serving the businesses on a site rather than the public. [1:48:06, 1:48:08]: And we see this uh property is [1:48:08, 1:48:15]: uh being one of the last large undeveloped tracts of land in the city. So there's a scarcity of those. [1:48:15, 1:48:20]: And so it's a unique opportunity maybe to do something special there that will benefit the public. [1:48:21, 1:48:24]: So we therefore recommend planning zoning staff recommends the Nile. [1:48:24, 1:48:26]: Proposed uh rezoning. [1:48:27, 1:48:27]: Um [1:48:28, 1:48:31]: to of the property from C three to M one. Um [1:48:32, 1:48:34]: However, if the city decides to [1:48:35, 1:48:40]: Approve these uh through these uh this uh request, we have identified a number of zoning conditions. [1:48:41, 1:48:41]: Um [1:48:42, 1:48:46]: Guess I should read these for uh for the record. I need to move this. [1:48:46, 1:48:47]: Yeah, let me think okay. [1:48:48, 1:48:50]: Um move m [1:48:50, 1:48:53]: Read these for the record. So these are proposed um [1:48:54, 1:48:59]: zoning conditions that we rec recommend if the council decides to approve this request. Number one. [1:49:00, 1:49:05]: Regarding the future land use designation, the approval of this resulting request should be contingent upon. [1:49:06, 1:49:09]: future land use designation of the subject property being changed from its current [1:49:10, 1:49:13]: Low density vertical mixed use designation. [1:49:13, 1:49:15]: To the light industrial designation. [1:49:15, 1:49:18]: To allow for the rezoning of the property to M one. [1:49:18, 1:49:22]: This shall be done via the approval of the applicants rest requested. [1:49:22, 1:49:24]: Comprehensive plan amendment. [1:49:24, 1:49:28]: Which comprises case number C P two oh two one hyphen oh one. [1:49:30, 1:49:33]: Number two, regarding the recombination of parcels. [1:49:33, 1:49:39]: A if the applicant wishes to rezone subject property for the express purposes of developing a proposed [1:49:39, 1:49:41]: Davidson Parkway Commerce Center. [1:49:42, 1:49:45]: Then the request of rezoning of the property shall be contingent upon. [1:49:46, 1:49:47]: And not be completed until [1:49:48, 1:49:52]: recombination of the properties two parcels into one parcel is approved by [1:49:52, 1:49:54]: Planning commission and a new plot. [1:49:54, 1:49:59]: Well, the property is officially recorded with the Henry County Superior Court real estate division office. [1:50:00, 1:50:05]: Uh B, if the applicant wishes to rezone each of the two parcels individually without combining them. [1:50:06, 1:50:07]: Then no recombination plat. [1:50:08, 1:50:12]: Application is required, however, the proposed development may not occur. [1:50:14, 1:50:19]: Number three, regarding a connection, connecting access to the drivetime establishment. [1:50:20, 1:50:23]: The applicant shall collaborate with the drive time owners. [1:50:23, 1:50:26]: To consider rerouting vehicle traffic out of [1:50:27, 1:50:30]: And away from the North Bridge Crossing Residential Development. [1:50:31, 1:50:34]: By means of a connecting driveway through the subject property. [1:50:35, 1:50:36]: If such a condition is [1:50:36, 1:50:40]: feasible with regard to topography and other physical [1:50:40, 1:50:41]: property conditions. [1:50:42, 1:50:46]: If such a condition is possible and agreed upon, then its location shall be shown. [1:50:46, 1:50:49]: on a modified version of the site plan. [1:50:49, 1:50:49]: Okay. [1:50:52, 1:50:54]: Number four regarding a site plan. [1:50:55, 1:51:00]: The applicant submitted an amended site plan, which was titled Davidson Parkway Commerce Center. [1:51:00, 1:51:02]: B R I three three oh nine. [1:51:03, 1:51:07]: And prepared by Eberline Associates on July nineteenth, twenty twenty one. [1:51:08, 1:51:12]: However, the proposed development shall occur according to a new but similar site plan. [1:51:12, 1:51:13]: Mm. [1:51:13, 1:51:15]: Which makes the filing minor modifications. [1:51:17, 1:51:18]: A nature trail. [1:51:18, 1:51:22]: Relocation the nature trail away from this project driveway. [1:51:22, 1:51:26]: And to an acceptable location near the creek and buff areas. [1:51:27, 1:51:29]: On the eastern side of the subject property. [1:51:30, 1:51:31]: If this is not possible. [1:51:31, 1:51:36]: Then acceptable physical barrier shall be constructed between the nature trail [1:51:36, 1:51:38]: A proposed dryway to protect [1:51:38, 1:51:40]: Педстрианство. [1:51:40, 1:51:41]: Using the dryway. [1:51:44, 1:51:48]: Truck staging B indication on the site plan as was noted by Aries ARC. [1:51:49, 1:51:52]: Of an acceptable truck staging plan to prevent the queuing. [1:51:53, 1:51:55]: Of heavy trucks on surrounding streets. [1:51:56, 1:52:01]: Five regarding landscape design, a developer shall submit an acceptable landscape design plan. [1:52:02, 1:52:06]: The proposed development during the plan review process for a land disturbance permit. [1:52:08, 1:52:12]: Six regarding buffering, the developer shall meet all city, county, state, [1:52:12, 1:52:16]: And federal requirements pertaining to the provision of sufficient buffers. [1:52:17, 1:52:22]: And related environmental protections in connection with existing streams on the subject property. [1:52:23, 1:52:25]: Seven regarding architectural design. [1:52:25, 1:52:29]: The proposed buildings shall have such design and exterior building materials [1:52:30, 1:52:32]: Give them the appearance of office buildings. [1:52:33, 1:52:37]: All warehouse areas and truck bays shall be adequately screened. [1:52:40, 1:52:46]: Uh, number eight, regarding transportation improvements, the developer shall meet all of the requirements that are specified. [1:52:46, 1:52:51]: And red is attached notice of decision for DRI number three three oh nine. [1:52:51, 1:52:54]: Dated August nine, twenty twenty one. [1:52:54, 1:52:57]: Which includes its attachment a general conditions. [1:52:57, 1:53:01]: Attachment B required elements of the DRI plan of development. [1:53:02, 1:53:05]: And attachment C required improvements to serve the DRI. [1:53:06, 1:53:11]: Um number nine, regarding procedural manners, procedural matters, A. [1:53:11, 1:53:15]: The applicant or developer shall submit a recombination plat application. [1:53:16, 1:53:17]: For review and approval. [1:53:17, 1:53:21]: by the planning commission after the rezoning of the property is approved. [1:53:21, 1:53:25]: B after recombination plot has been approved by the planning commission. [1:53:25, 1:53:26]: It shall be recorded. [1:53:27, 1:53:30]: With the Henry County Superior Court and a copy shall be provided to the city. [1:53:31, 1:53:32]: Before the sitting may [1:53:32, 1:53:36]: issue any land disturbance or building permits for the proposed development. [1:53:37, 1:53:42]: C in compliance with section twelve point twelve point oh one six [1:53:42, 1:53:45]: Parentheses six of the stock root zoning code. [1:53:45, 1:53:49]: Entitled Application Subject to Mayor and Council Action. [1:53:49, 1:53:53]: Any proposed modifications to the conditions of an approved rezoning. [1:53:53, 1:53:55]: shall be reviewed and [1:53:55, 1:53:57]: decisions rendered by the mayor and council. [1:53:58, 1:54:00]: For such purpose, the applicant developer [1:54:00, 1:54:01]: Shall submit a [1:54:01, 1:54:03]: Zoning modification. [1:54:03, 1:54:05]: application of the city's planning and zoning staff. [1:54:06, 1:54:08]: And D in compliance. [1:54:08, 1:54:12]: Section twelve point twelve point oh oh three parentheses a [1:54:12, 1:54:14]: Of the stockward zoning code. [1:54:15, 1:54:15]: Call. [1:54:16, 1:54:17]: Expiration of approvals. [1:54:17, 1:54:21]: Zoning classification of the property may revert back to C three. [1:54:21, 1:54:26]: or to some other zoning classification after a period of eighteen months. [1:54:26, 1:54:28]: If the mayor and city council chooses [1:54:28, 1:54:31]: If substantial progress has not been achieved. [1:54:31, 1:54:36]: in the construction of the proposed development whereby the first inspection is carried out. [1:54:37, 1:54:38]: Um [1:54:38, 1:54:40]: That was my last slide. Um [1:54:40, 1:54:45]: The applicant has some additional conditions that they have proposed. [1:54:45, 1:55:05]: And may present separately if they wish. Are there any questions about my presentation? Well, before you go on that presentation, Council, bear with me for a second. There's a phase two to this that did not read into the record. Let me read that phase two and then we'll go to questions and see if there's anything else from the applicant andor Ms. Logan we had to add. Comprehensive plan amendment case number six. [1:55:05, 1:55:25]: CP-2021-01, the City of Stockbridge Planning Commission and the City of Stockbridge, Mayor and City Council will hear the comprehensive plan amendment request by the East Group Properties LP. The applicant to change the future land use designation of certain property from low density vertical mixed use to light industrial to allow for the development of business. [1:55:25, 1:55:45]: Business distribution center within five new buildings. The property is located in landlock 57 of District 12 within the city limit, the stopbridge city limits, and it contains three parcels of 79.17 total acres as follows. Parcel 030-01009-000 contains 73.88 acres located at the rear of the south. [1:55:45, 1:56:05]: West Corner of Davidson Parkway and Walter Way. Parcel 030-01009006 contains 1.66 acres located on the south side of Davidson Parkway, one lot west of Walter Way. And then also parcel 030-01009005 contains 3.638. [1:56:05, 1:56:18]: acres located in the west side. I walked away two lots south of David Parkway. Read that that was phase number two. I believe you cover covered that as well. Uh Ms. Logan, I don't know if there's anything else that you need to add from your presentation prior to taking that question. [1:56:18, 1:56:22]: I have a separate presentation. It's it's uh shorter, much shorter. [1:56:23, 1:56:43]: And um some of the same information that you just mentioned again that's me may afford yeah, I was gonna say standby. Let's let's yeah, let's go. I'm sorry, stand by. I maybe I jumped the gun here. So let's go back and for the for the first part of the presentation, see if there's any additional questions from the council and then for the applicant before we move on to the next one, Ms. Logan. Council, you have any questions at all for the first. [1:56:42, 1:56:43]: presentation. [1:56:46, 1:56:51]: Uh I I don't have any questions, but the need to read every sentence, is that necessary? [1:56:53, 1:56:55]: I was reading it into the record, just [1:56:56, 1:56:57]: I mean is it? [1:56:58, 1:57:10]: Well, we wanna make sure we get we capture everything uh properly. I would imagine I mean it's noted for us in the notes. I mean, it's it's there for everybody to see, but I mean, if we're gonna read every paragraph, I mean, is that really necessary? [1:57:12, 1:57:24]: Well, I would I would just venture to say we just gotta make sure we we document everything properly. That's what my my comment would be. Um are there any questions specifically in reference to the first part of this presentation for the council? [1:57:25, 1:57:32]: I don't see any at this point. And you uh Ms. Logan, you said the applicant is available. Does he have any additional things to add on this first portion of this of this presentation? [1:57:34, 1:57:36]: The applicant has some additional [1:57:36, 1:57:38]: conditions that they recommended. [1:57:39, 1:57:39]: Okay. [1:57:40, 1:57:44]: And that African is who's that? Is that Mr. Coleman? Is that you, sir? Or is it somebody else? [1:57:45, 1:57:50]: Um mayor forward, Michelle Battle here with Battle Law. Okay, there you go. Go ahead and go ahead. [1:57:51, 1:58:11]: Yes, um we do have a PowerPoint, but I'm not sure if you are inviting us um to do our presentation. I don't know if it makes sense to do both the rezoning and the seat the comp plan change so that we can do our presentation as one because we don't have separate presentations. [1:58:11, 1:58:26]: for the rezoning and the comprehensive plan. So it's all it's all together is what it amounts to. Yes, sir. All right. Yes, sir. Um okay, let's let's okay back up for one second, please. Any uh counsel, any other questions in reference to the first portion of this presentation? [1:58:27, 1:58:30]: If there are no questions, we'll move on to the second portion. [1:58:30, 1:58:32]: If that is the case. [1:58:32, 1:58:36]: Mayor Ford, if I may, uh just for the record, I did want to state that [1:58:37, 1:58:42]: The planning commission heard the public hearing, both public hearings on September twenty-third. [1:58:42, 1:58:47]: of this year and their recommendation was for denial. I just want to breathe that into the record. [1:58:47, 1:58:48]: Okay. [1:58:49, 1:58:55]: All right. Mayor Ford, I I got a question real quick. So the first part is the first part of the presentation for the zoning. [1:58:56, 1:59:01]: And the second part is for something else, right? Yeah, right. Comprehensive plan amendment, yes. [1:59:02, 1:59:03]: So if we [1:59:03, 1:59:10]: vote, we go ahead and move forward with the agenda part of the rezoning and we make a determination on how we want to go. [1:59:10, 1:59:13]: 'Cause I have some concerns that this doesn't fit. [1:59:14, 1:59:14]: Arab. [1:59:14, 1:59:17]: our um LCI plan. [1:59:17, 1:59:19]: Nor I comprehensive plan. [1:59:20, 1:59:22]: Um, based off of the what I've read. [1:59:23, 1:59:24]: Plus the seven hundred and [1:59:25, 1:59:26]: I'm sorry, the four hundred and four. [1:59:27, 1:59:30]: additional trucks coming onto the road each day. [1:59:30, 1:59:36]: Mm-hmm. Along with the seven hundred and seven personal vehicles that would come on, in addition to [1:59:36, 1:59:44]: My biggest concern was the DRI sent and Greta saying that there were no improvements that were gonna be required needed. [1:59:44, 1:59:46]: during that travel and impact study. [1:59:47, 1:59:50]: You're talking about 404 tractor trailer trucks. [1:59:51, 1:59:57]: So if we're talking about I think that part two wouldn't even matter if we went ahead and voted on part one unless [1:59:58, 1:59:59]: Someone's in favor of part one. [2:00:00, 2:00:20]: Well, well, we'll it may not be, but uh once again, the I was wondering if there's any questions for rezoning on part one and then uh read part two in the record and the presentation for that. And then I believe what it is, Ms. Battle has uh a presentation to make involving both of those. We need to hear them out before we make a final decision anyway, and it's a public hearing. [2:00:20, 2:00:22]: And so I have to open that up as well. [2:00:22, 2:00:25]: Uh mayor mayor. [2:00:25, 2:00:26]: Yes. [2:00:26, 2:00:30]: I I certainly concur with that and uh in the need for us to [2:00:31, 2:00:33]: uh go through a a lot of uh [2:00:33, 2:00:37]: You know, what we're going through. I mean, I just never really seen a staff. [2:00:37, 2:00:54]: go through uh there the applicant is supposed to make the presentation and looks like the staff making the presentation. Now it's taken a long time for us to get to this point right here and we got two more presentations to go to. We I think uh we have all of us have some of these similar concerns. [2:00:55, 2:01:06]: Okay. I understand. Uh in reference once again, in reference to the the first part of this hearing, for no other kind of uh council comments, um miss well whether the applicant or well. [2:01:07, 2:01:11]: Well, Miss Logan, you have something else on the comprehensive plan. You have a second piece of this. Is that right? [2:01:11, 2:01:15]: Yes. [2:01:16, 2:01:18]: But uh s a few uh other things too. [2:01:19, 2:01:28]: Well, I'll tell you what, if if if it's already if something's already been covered, maybe you mean you you can possibly miss that or not cover that and cover things that may not already be covered. Okay. [2:01:29, 2:01:31]: Yes, sir. That's what we're planning to do. Okay, go write it, please. [2:01:32, 2:01:35]: Okay, so some of these c case facts were the same. [2:01:35, 2:01:40]: Except down here the the again the comprehensive plan request is a change of properties, future land des [2:01:41, 2:01:43]: Language designation from low density. [2:01:43, 2:01:45]: Vertical mix use to light industrial. [2:01:46, 2:01:49]: In order to allow the proposed zoning from C three to M one. [2:01:49, 2:01:52]: Um covered these. Now here is [2:01:52, 2:01:54]: Stockridge future land use map. [2:01:55, 2:01:58]: Proper subject property is here in this uh [2:01:58, 2:02:01]: Pink color right here shows low density residential. [2:02:02, 2:02:08]: Um the proposed proposal is to re to change it to uh light light industrial. [2:02:08, 2:02:09]: Um [2:02:10, 2:02:11]: Which would be the [2:02:12, 2:02:13]: Light gray colour. [2:02:14, 2:02:15]: Okay. [2:02:16, 2:02:16]: We've covered. [2:02:17, 2:02:19]: We covered this slide and this slide. [2:02:19, 2:02:20]: Uh no, I'm sorry, we didn't [2:02:21, 2:02:25]: It this is an enlargement of the future land use map for the subject property. [2:02:25, 2:02:26]: So um [2:02:27, 2:02:28]: Here is a side. [2:02:28, 2:02:31]: And low density vertical mixed use. [2:02:31, 2:02:35]: Uh here and there would and there are some of the same land uses. [2:02:35, 2:02:36]: Uh adjacent. [2:02:38, 2:02:41]: Okay, so we covered the rezoning and DRI. [2:02:42, 2:02:46]: Now I wanted to mention down here the importance of a property's future land use designation. [2:02:46, 2:02:49]: Relative to its zoning classification. [2:02:49, 2:02:50]: Um [2:02:50, 2:02:57]: And the a proposed zoning district must be permitted within permitted within the property's future land use designation. [2:02:57, 2:03:02]: That that's uh mandatory and new developments should promote a better sense of place. [2:03:02, 2:03:03]: And preserve valued M [2:03:04, 2:03:06]: elements of community character. [2:03:06, 2:03:08]: Those are things that [2:03:08, 2:03:11]: are in stated in in the comprehensive plan. [2:03:11, 2:03:12]: Uh document. [2:03:12, 2:03:14]: Uh here are a few definitions. [2:03:14, 2:03:19]: Future landings designation, so low density vertical mixed use, which the property has now. [2:03:20, 2:03:24]: Should mainly serve residents of the surrounding residential neighborhoods. [2:03:25, 2:03:30]: And future development and redevelopment should maintain the community oriented feel of these areas. [2:03:30, 2:03:35]: Now the proposed light industrial landings designation is intended for business parks. [2:03:36, 2:03:40]: Which incorporate offices along with other uses such as warehouses and light manufacturing. [2:03:41, 2:03:43]: And buffers are required adjacent to [2:03:43, 2:03:44]: Residential areas. [2:03:45, 2:03:47]: Uh I wanted to mention um [2:03:48, 2:03:51]: purposes of zoning district,'cause this is all tied together, C three. [2:03:52, 2:03:54]: Purpose to provide commercial activities. [2:03:55, 2:03:59]: Provide products and services that require locations near major roads and highways. [2:03:59, 2:04:04]: And provide services that would not be appropriate in C one and C two districts. [2:04:04, 2:04:06]: The M One district purpose. [2:04:07, 2:04:10]: provide light industrial uses uses which should be n nuisance free. [2:04:11, 2:04:13]: Not generators of hazardous waste. [2:04:13, 2:04:14]: And these should be [2:04:14, 2:04:17]: Located on arterial or major collector streets. [2:04:17, 2:04:20]: or with industrial parks having access to such thoroughfares. [2:04:21, 2:04:23]: Analysis of request. [2:04:23, 2:04:28]: Well, okay, number one, is this is the proposal consistency with the comprehensive plan? No. [2:04:29, 2:04:32]: Number two, relation to the purpose intent of the zoning code. [2:04:32, 2:04:33]: These are several [2:04:33, 2:04:35]: uh criteria that were listed. [2:04:36, 2:04:41]: Uh does it promote the prosperity and general welfare of city residents? We say no. [2:04:41, 2:04:46]: Does it min would it mim minimize congestion on public streets? We say no. [2:04:46, 2:04:48]: Would advance traffic safety? No. [2:04:49, 2:04:51]: Would it prevent the overcrowding of land? No. [2:04:52, 2:04:55]: Would it facilitate the adequate provision of transportation? No. [2:04:55, 2:04:58]: Would it protect property against blight and deterioration? No. [2:04:59, 2:05:02]: And would it encourage the most appropriate use of land? No. [2:05:05, 2:05:08]: So is this is a suit is the property suitable? Um [2:05:09, 2:05:18]: In terms of its location, no, it's not. Excuse me, excuse me, Linda, for just one second. So I just I just wanted to just point out so we don't have to go through each of the [2:05:18, 2:05:24]: Items drill down one by one. The overall um concern on the staff level was that the [2:05:25, 2:05:27]: The proposed use does not meet the future. [2:05:27, 2:05:37]: uh development plan for this for the case the city. And that's the comprehensive plan. So there are a number of different components of that plan, which we could not um [2:05:38, 2:05:41]: the the use that's being proposed is not compatible. [2:05:41, 2:05:53]: So I just want to kind of do a wrap up. The recommendation is for denial. If you'll go to the last slide, Linda, thank you. And then the zoning conditions, if you guys did decide to approve it, stand just as they would. [2:05:53, 2:05:55]: Um for the rezoning itself. [2:05:55, 2:06:02]: And um that would conclude our presentation for both public hearings. And thank you very much, Linda. [2:06:04, 2:06:10]: All right. On that note, then uh Ms. Battle, you have something you now to present to the council as well. Is that correct? [2:06:10, 2:06:13]: Yes, if we could um share the screen, that would be helpful. [2:06:39, 2:06:59]: All right, Ms. Badelak, please the screen is up and you go right ahead. Okay. Thank you. Um, as Linda indicated, we are seeking to rezone from C3 to M1 and to amend the future land use from low density vertical mix use to light industrial. I should say that um quite honestly, when we first started speaking with staff, um [2:06:59, 2:07:19]: Prior to Ms. Johnson being um uh hired for her current position, um, we had had uh conversations with staff, and quite honestly, um it was a bit to our dismay that we were even required to seek a rezoning from uh the current C3 to M1 because. [2:07:19, 2:07:39]: Our use is primarily a use of office space. We are seeking to have office space on this property, larger office space, but there's certainly no limit that we saw in either the C2 or C3 districts with regards to office space for the types of uses that we would be. [2:07:39, 2:07:59]: Placing on the property. The C3 zoning designation seemed as if it would work because it also allowed for both many warehouses and warehouses with no limit to the size of those either. But we were told by staff that we could not come under that C3 zoning designation. [2:07:59, 2:08:15]: in the existing land use and that we had to seek a rezoning to M1 with the light industrial use. And so that is what we had acquiesced in, even though we certainly felt that we could fit snugly within the existing zoning. [2:08:16, 2:08:36]: Um, that all being said, we are seeking to do an office and distribution business park with 696 square feet of space, 761 parking spots, and the generation of between 2,000 and 3,000 jobs between the permanent jobs, some of which would be on site, some of which would be [2:08:36, 2:08:56]: Would be hybrid jobs and some of which would be remote jobs, as well as construction jobs that would be generated from the project. When we look at the original site plan that was approved, the last one that was currently approved in 2009, you will see that there are a multiplicity of uses that are proposed. [2:08:56, 2:09:13]: Find it a bit interesting. Um, staff has focused very much on the truck traffic and the amount of traffic that our um project will generate, but there seems to be no emphasis on the um amount of traffic that this project will generate when we're looking at over 255. [2:09:13, 2:09:33]: Um 255,351 square feet of space being built out with gas stations, self-storage restaurants, offices, technical schools, multiple hotels, and office retail uses. What we are proposing is a more cohesive. [2:09:33, 2:09:41]: Project in which there will be one owner of the property. Um, they do that being the East Group, a very high-end. [2:09:41, 2:10:01]: Um product that will allow for high-end businesses to come into this community and provide stable jobs for the area, as well as actually being a fairly attractive, actually a very attractive facade for the buildings with the opportunity. [2:10:02, 2:10:07]: again for people who would be working in these spaces to also live and [2:10:07, 2:10:27]: in play um in the stock bridge area. I find what's on one of the things that's interesting about this area period is that with drive time in the back, which was certainly an industrial use that was there actually prior to the North Bridge Crossing community coming on board, that this area really changed in character only because of that [2:10:27, 2:10:47]: That North Bridge Crossing community coming into play. And what we know is that the developer, who actually is a client of mine that had originally proposed this project, was unable to move forward with the North Bridge Crossing component of the project where the retail was to be built and some of the other components. [2:10:47, 2:11:07]: But it was certainly a vision one could say that the city bought into because a lot of changes were made in the comprehensive plan and in other plans to adapt to a project that actually never came to fruition. It is certainly a vision, but it has a vision means nothing if no one is willing to build it. And that is where we say. [2:11:07, 2:11:27]: It now because the current owner of the property has found nobody that has been interested in building the project is currently configured. When we look at transportation, which seems to be one of the largest issues that we have had to face with this, we did go through the DRI review process. What we can see is that with regards to the truck traffic, [2:11:26, 2:11:46]: There is a heavy truck route. And all of our trucks will be coming down Davidson Circle, going into the facility and then going back out the same exact way. We are not Mannheim Auto Auction or the drive time facility, which is coming through the center of a community or at least around the periphery. And then [2:11:46, 2:12:06]: Swinging back around this residential community. That is not us. We are a product in a project, should I say, that will not have that intrusion into the residential community in the same way that the current project that is approved on this site will generate. [2:12:06, 2:12:26]: Six times the amount of traffic, if it were built out, um, that we have. So if we're really seriously concerned about traffic, then our project should be viewed as the optimal project because we will actually be generating significantly less traffic than what is currently proposed on the site. Um, when we look at what Greta did and [2:12:26, 2:12:46]: And I think that um you know between the traffic study, and we do, I believe, have our traffic engineer here and he can speak to um the lack of uh as one says, improvements that have been um suggested. Um, what we know is that um Greta did approve with the notice of decision, um, the pedestrian paths and [2:12:46, 2:13:06]: And signage within the project area and some additional corridor studies that would need to be done, in addition to making sure that there was still an opportunity to connect into the parkway that was supposed to be developed in connection with the 300 acres that. [2:13:06, 2:13:08]: that lies immediately south of this site. [2:13:10, 2:13:30]: When we look at the trip comparison generation, although Davidson Parkway Commerce Center, which is the name of our proposed facility, will generate significantly lower daily trips at 1,144 daily trips and 109 and 11 during AM and [2:13:30, 2:13:50]: PM hours, what we know is that the mixed use development is anticipated at generating, and this was based as well on the DRI, 6,360 daily trips for a total of 7,504 daily trips. So if one is truly [2:13:50, 2:14:10]: Concerned about traffic, then why would you pick a project to stay in place that generates six times the amount of traffic that we are seeking to generate? Additionally, there's 421 additional trips during the AM and PM hours that would be generated by. [2:14:10, 2:14:30]: By that mixed-use project. So again, we ask: if there is truly a concern about traffic, why is this project not viewed as the better of the two? Certainly, we know that there will be truck traffic, but our truck traffic is going one way in and one way out and does not have the impact that it would have. [2:14:30, 2:14:47]: Have on the residential community that came after the industrial uses that are already on site. But in order to mitigate against that, over and above what was required in the DRI review, we are proposing the following. Number one. [2:14:48, 2:15:08]: That signage be installed showing no right turn for trucks out of our complex, and that the park entry geometry will also encourage a left turn movement for all of those vehicles. So any trucks coming in would not even have the opportunity to turn right out of the facility. They would have to turn left and go back down Davidson. [2:15:08, 2:15:28]: Parkway or Davidson Circle. The applicant would then work with GDOT to improve the geometry of the intersection for vehicles turning from North Henry Boulevard onto Davidson Parkway. And then we would also install no through no truck through traffic at signs at the intersection of David Park. [2:15:28, 2:15:48]: Davison Parkway in North Henry. We would also provide a minimum 100-foot buffer behind the existing residential lots located off of Walter Way, which abut the subject property and leave the existing stream undisturbed to help screen those residential homes. Further, we will create a multi-use path. [2:15:48, 2:16:08]: Along the existing stream as shown on the site plan, and we'll also donate a one-acre park in close proximity to that multi-use path for the use of the general public. And then finally, we understand the burden that the drive time facility actually places on the city. It is property that is [2:16:08, 2:16:28]: Currently located in unincorporated Henry County. What we are proposing is that the applicant agrees to contact the owners, which we have already started doing, located at 3000 Walter Way, in order to discuss options to create the truck access to the drive-time reconditioning center. But we have gone one [2:16:27, 2:16:47]: One step further than what staff has asked and said that if drive time actually agrees to that alternative truck access, then we will construct and fund the required culvert crossing to the common property line. In other words, we are willing to actually be good neighbors and help the city alleviate a [2:16:47, 2:17:07]: A problem that it currently has by allowing that connectivity into the drive time facility. We know that that drive time facility is what is truly generating most of the problems along that corridor. And we are willing to do what we can to help facilitate getting that issue addressed. [2:17:07, 2:17:27]: Coleman here with the East Group to also speak on some more specificity with regards to the exact uses that are being proposed and the type of facility that is being proposed. But before John comes on, I'd also like to mention this property certainly as the city is continuing to look at opportunities for the city. [2:17:27, 2:17:47]: CID and in your conversations with Henry County and Clayton County about that along 138, that we would want this property considered to be a part of that CID to help to make the right-of-way improvements and other things that would be necessary along that corridor. [2:17:47, 2:17:58]: Because again, East Group is wants to be a good neighbor. And we believe that this facility does fit in with the residential community, allows people to come into this site. [2:17:59, 2:18:19]: And again, to be able to live and work within this area. And we also sent over to staff earlier today and to all of the council members a letter from the developer of the 300 acres immediately south of this site, supporting this project as an opportunity to generate new jobs that would be an enticement to individual. [2:18:19, 2:18:39]: Individuals who would be coming to live in this community. And what we know is that the city has certainly earmarked those areas immediately south of this site as potential annexation into the city. And so here's an opportunity to really have a cohesive project that brings jobs as well as an opportunity. [2:18:39, 2:18:49]: for people to actually live and work in this community and play in this community and support the other businesses that are currently existing within the area. So John, I'll turn it over to you. [2:18:51, 2:18:52]: Great. Uh [2:18:53, 2:18:58]: Thank you, Michelle. Good evening. Thank you, Mr. Mayor and Council members, for your time tonight. [2:18:59, 2:18:59]: Uh [2:19:00, 2:19:20]: Wanted to tell you a little bit about our company, our overall development program. We're going to be developing a business park. Uh, we've been working 18 months uh now on the entitlement process, and we've successfully completed uh the DRI for this project. And that was after two other successful DRIs that were for heavy commercial use. And I think [2:19:20, 2:19:26]: Mich Michelle hit the nail on the head as they weren't put into production because that demand just didn't exist for that use. [2:19:27, 2:19:27]: Um [2:19:28, 2:19:45]: What sets us apart from some of our other peers are we are a long-term owner. There's no intention to sell these buildings after they're developed. We're gonna develop a quality business park that's gonna attract quality companies to the city. Our buildings will include office and showrooms that'll range from 10 to 80 percent of the building. [2:19:46, 2:19:50]: And they typically operate at normal business hours. Uh next slide, Michelle. [2:19:52, 2:19:54]: Let's go on to the next one. I'll circle back to that. [2:19:55, 2:20:15]: Great, thank you. A little bit about our company. We're a real estate investment trust. We own 50 million square feet, uh, all in the Sunbelt uh states highlighted on this map. We are traded on the New York Stock Exchange, uh, and we're well uh financially funded. Uh so that will that way we will be guaranteed to be able to invest the money required for this business. [2:20:15, 2:20:29]: Business Park and Stockbridge. We would start construction immediately upon finalizing our building permits. There's no pre-leasing requirements. We build most of our buildings on spec, so we'd move right into putting this land into production. [2:20:29, 2:20:30]: Uh next slide, please. [2:20:32, 2:20:52]: I wanted to talk about the park design and amenities. The design primarily is a single-story office area facing the high visibility areas. Here, that would include the frontage on 675. We talked about a gateway into the city, but then also internal to the site on Davidson Parkway. Glass on [2:20:52, 2:21:12]: the elevations include multiple uh entryways into the buildings. Our buildings are typically multi-tenant, and that's because our average company size ranges from 30 to 50,000 square feet. We tend to cater to, even though they're national Fortune 500 companies, cater to companies that are local to the doing business [2:21:12, 2:21:23]: Business locally in the area. What we're not is we're not a large regional distribution facility that's gonna have just trucks in and out running from Charlotte to Miami. [2:21:24, 2:21:44]: Uh the types of users that we uh we attract, thank you, include uh pharmaceutical fulfillment. This is the second slide, is a great example of a building in Orlando where we have prime therapeutics, uh which is really Blue Cross, Blue Shield. Uh the same park we have Aetna and Davida. And here you can see the service cart uh court has actually been. [2:21:44, 2:22:00]: And uh uh retrofitted and strike for car parking. And you can see the glass across the back of the building for additional office area. So multiple flex, maximum flexibility across the board, but we're really seeing a lot more activity on the biomed uh side would really [2:22:01, 2:22:08]: uh companies like Pfizer would love to contract, contact them about uh leasing space uh in this park at completion. [2:22:09, 2:22:11]: Um next slide. This is a building in Miami. [2:22:12, 2:22:32]: And other uses that we're seeing that's really uh active in this part of the business cycle is last mile delivery. Uh this park has leases with Best Buy, uh Peloton, and Nike. And um it's proximity to the customers, but also that we're seeing a transition with our buildings where they're offering curbside pickup. [2:22:32, 2:22:46]: So if you have an order online with Best Buy, you can actually drive to the facility and they can bring your product out to you while you wait in your car. So really seeing that evolution of the kind of the online e-commerce part of the business. [2:22:46, 2:23:06]: Another building in Orlando. Other uses that we attract would include high-tech companies, which are high-paying jobs, but also movie studios. I think that's a dynamic part of the Atlanta business that we would attract these studios to these buildings. Other examples in our portfolio would include Norwegian. [2:23:06, 2:23:26]: Cruise lines in Tampa, where they've taken a building and they've can they've they've replicated the stages from the different cruise ships so that all the performers train in these facilities before getting on the cruise ships. Also, Universal Studios for their theme park in Orlando has a full building that they do similar type of training and and [2:23:26, 2:23:46]: And storage of their of their performance. Benefit here is really local job creation. Two to three thousand jobs we project will be created not only by the companies that are located here, but also with construction. We will partner with the city staff and EDC. We've already spoken with Alan Peterson a couple. [2:23:46, 2:23:51]: times on setting up a program with the city to target local job growth. [2:23:52, 2:23:52]: Um [2:23:53, 2:24:13]: Uh this is a great let's just hold on this one for a second. This is a great slide. It's a building in Charlotte, just south of the airport, which has proximity to some other residential areas. Um the first phase uh was was rezoned and approved, and then future phases have been unanimously approved by city council and supported by the residents. It's a little [2:24:13, 2:24:33]: Ironic for us is our product type is usually embraced by the local communities and cities in lieu of maybe a heavy commercial with gas stations and hotels, also in lieu of of warehousing. This is a business park and this isn't a great example of the uh the above code minimum uh landscaping. [2:24:33, 2:24:53]: The quality of the buildings and the quality of the companies you're going to get. So a little surprised on staff recommendation because again, most cities are embracing and asking us, including in other Atlanta cities, to come to their municipalities and develop our buildings. We did conduct the three community meetings. The final meeting did have our [2:24:53, 2:24:55]: traffic consultant. If you go back to that other slide, please. [2:24:57, 2:25:17]: Thank you. Just leave it there for a second. Included our traffic consultant, ND5, they're on the call. I think to demonstrate our commitment, we did propose the five additional conditions. And those were really to address the community concerns, the traffic solutions that Michelle mentioned, more restrictive landscaping and screening for the residential areas. [2:25:17, 2:25:37]: Areas. And I think most importantly, our offer to solve the drivetime access issue through the neighborhood, we would provide that access and actually construct that. Um, the support from the uh new owner to the south also is very important. Real quick on the site plan, I think it's worth mentioning our site plan uh [2:25:36, 2:25:54]: 52% of the overall site is impervious, so it's left either in its natural landscape condition or has additional landscaping planted. So that's well above code minimum to have 52% of the overall acreage undeveloped. Increased screening for the residential. [2:25:55, 2:26:00]: Um last thing I want to touch on is real quick on the traffic. [2:26:00, 2:26:00]: Uh [2:26:01, 2:26:21]: As M. Michelle Encher uh mentioned, the the current zoning allows for uh six times a vehicle generation. Um an example would be if we had 10 cars were or vehicles were generated uh to a traffic signal, uh the the current zoning would would produce 60 vehicles compared to our 10. Um [2:26:21, 2:26:41]: I think it's also important to note from the traffic study that of the car or the vehicles leaving and arriving in our park, there are two cars for every truck. So we have two times the number of cars that are really the office and showroom and pharmaceutical uses parking for every truck. And every truck, the trucks [2:26:41, 2:27:01]: Tend to be uh panel trucks. That could be UPS, FedEx. There will be semis, but that's much more, that's much less than the overall auto traffic. Um, the peak hour traffic and MV5 is on the call. This was a stat they threw out to the community last week. Um, at peak hours, the peak hourly truck traffic is going to be. [2:27:01, 2:27:21]: 15 to 20 trucks. And that's in and out. So if you look at just coming into the site, that's eight to 10 trucks per hour. That's like one every five minutes. Again, compared to the heavy commercial use of six times that traffic. Staff did mention that the intersection levels were going to be at level [2:27:21, 2:27:41]: ENF with our development. I think it's very important to note those are currently level ENF service levels and that our development does not does not uh lower any intersections ratings because we they're they're maintained, they're not great, they're ENF, but our development does not uh cause any lower ratings for. [2:27:41, 2:27:44]: for any of those intersections. And then lastly. [2:27:44, 2:28:01]: We will try to control the cut-through traffic right now going through Davidson Circle. Our traffic consultant believes that we can actually have a net no increase to trucks through Davidson Circle or maybe even with our traffic uh measures have a net reduction of trucks through the area. [2:28:01, 2:28:21]: In in closing, and I know we can um you know we can address any of your questions, um, you know, I just think we bring jobs uh to the community. Uh we're a long-term owner. We're going to develop just like this picture, a quality park environment and attract uh quality companies um to the area, and and we think that's a great fit. [2:28:21, 2:28:41]: fit for that visibility. When people leave and trucks leave our development, they're not going through the community. They're going to 675 and to 75. That's why we like this this location so much because of the the it the immediate interstate access. That's where the the vehicles are going to be going. And I think MV5 can be is here to [2:28:41, 2:28:44]: uh again address any other traffic concerns. [2:28:44, 2:28:45]: Thank you for your time. [2:28:45, 2:28:57]: No problem. Thank you, Ms. Battle and Mr. Coleman. Appreciate your presentation. Counselor, any before we open the public hearing, any questions you have for Ms. Battle or Mr. Coleman about their their presentation or any uh desires or concerns you may have. [2:29:00, 2:29:00]: Anybody? [2:29:03, 2:29:03]: Seeing none. [2:29:05, 2:29:25]: Okay, so what I need to do is open this up for public hearing. And so um once again, uh our attorneys will keep me straight on, I guess I would say. So I want to open up for uh so both the rezoning and the comprehensive plan amendment case, if I can a guy can do it both uh open both those up at the same time for [2:29:25, 2:29:26]: or the public hearing, is that correct? [2:29:27, 2:29:28]: Attorneys, that would work that way. [2:29:32, 2:29:52]: Yes, but for easiest but but easiest you want to just take one at a time so people know what you won't jump back and forth. That's what I just wanted to make sure. Okay, fine. Let's talk about the rezoni case then. Rizzoni case, public hearing. Any uh any public hearing, anybody for the rezoni case that was presented for for the city as well as from um uh the actual uh [2:29:52, 2:30:04]: a client here. And I and once again in reference to public, I I you I guess it'd be Ms. Ms. Holiday or IT or have to let folks in because I I cannot see that and I don't know that at this point. Need to have anything out there at all. [2:30:05, 2:30:07]: There are no raised hands, Mayor. [2:30:08, 2:30:09]: Okay. [2:30:09, 2:30:24]: So no raise hands. So otherwise for the public hearing, anything against in uh for the public hearing? Um in reference to the rezoning case. Any anybody out there uh for a public hearing uh for any comments against this this public hearing? [2:30:24, 2:30:25]: Anything at all. [2:30:27, 2:30:28]: No raise hands, I guess, for that as well. [2:30:30, 2:30:30]: No. [2:30:31, 2:30:36]: All right, well I will close that part of the public hearing then and open up for the comprehensive plan amendment. [2:30:36, 2:30:42]: And are there any comments from the public that are online? They have any comments about the public. [2:30:42, 2:30:45]: company has a planned amendment for the it all. [2:30:47, 2:30:48]: Anything at all for the public? [2:30:52, 2:31:04]: There are no raised hands in this platform. Let me check for Facebook, please. Let me get with our PIO. Hey Vanessa, this is Shayna Thornton, Public Information Officer. There are no feedback. There's no feedback on Facebook as well. [2:31:04, 2:31:05]: Thank you. [2:31:05, 2:31:09]: All right, so I'll I'll say it anyway. Captain has a plan of anything against it. [2:31:10, 2:31:15]: uh against that uh public uh uh comprehensive plan amendment uh at all. [2:31:16, 2:31:25]: They're for now against any any comments whatsoever. And it's my assumption from a previous comment, there's nothing online and nothing on the Facebook at all. Is that correct, ladies? [2:31:28, 2:31:29]: That's correct, Mayor. [2:31:29, 2:31:49]: Okay. So I'll close the okay, thank you. So I'll close the public hearing. Public hearing has been open and closed for both parts of this rezoning case and a comprehensive plan amendment. Now uh council, what are your thoughts or what are your questions? And I guess we probably need to take this also in in in phases as well. So rezoning case, uh for council. [2:31:49, 2:31:56]: consideration. Uh what do he desires? What's the motion to approve this or what's the motion for this? Approve it or disapprove it. [2:31:57, 2:31:58]: Helpful. [2:32:01, 2:32:07]: rezoning case RZ 2021 Net01. Miss Barber, go ahead please. [2:32:09, 2:32:11]: I don't have any questions. Um [2:32:12, 2:32:15]: It's a lot to take in. [2:32:15, 2:32:15]: Okay. [2:32:16, 2:32:20]: I I do like the fact that it's bringing jobs here. [2:32:21, 2:32:22]: Um but [2:32:23, 2:32:25]: I am concerned about [2:32:25, 2:32:26]: The traffic. [2:32:27, 2:32:30]: congestion for the residents who live in that area. [2:32:30, 2:32:32]: But they've already shown that they [2:32:33, 2:32:39]: put some measures or will take measures to help alleviate some of those traffic concerns. [2:32:40, 2:32:40]: Uh [2:32:41, 2:32:44]: I'll wait and just hear from the rest of our councilmates. [2:32:44, 2:32:49]: All right, any other council members have anything uh in reference to the rezoning case? Questions, concerns? [2:32:50, 2:32:51]: Yes, sir. [2:32:51, 2:32:52]: We'll write it, please. [2:32:53, 2:32:56]: I I I attended the public town hall meeting. [2:32:56, 2:32:58]: And we also had some [2:32:58, 2:32:59]: uh discussions. [2:33:00, 2:33:05]: And uh what it really came down to is you know speaking with the residents. [2:33:05, 2:33:12]: I mean, I did not I every resident that I talked to was vehemently, I mean, just vehemently opposed. [2:33:12, 2:33:15]: And they did not um they were not [2:33:15, 2:33:16]: There was no wiggle room. [2:33:17, 2:33:37]: Uh the suggestion was made, you know, what um what if we could get uh those cars that are driving through the North Bridge subdivision uh out of your subdivision and offer alternative route. They said they would rather have the tractor trailers continue to live drive through their neighborhood rather than uh have another warehouse. [2:33:37, 2:33:39]: right next to their neighborhood. It was [2:33:39, 2:33:42]: And I went out and talked to as many people [2:33:42, 2:33:45]: As I could, I was contacted by numerous other [2:33:46, 2:33:48]: uh residence just to see [2:33:49, 2:33:51]: What the feel was and [2:33:51, 2:33:52]: It without [2:33:52, 2:33:58]: fail, there was not one person in support, and everybody was vehemently opposed and [2:33:59, 2:34:06]: It was said, if you vote for this, sir, we just we just we we just gotta understand that uh [2:34:06, 2:34:09]: If if there's that much opposition in the community. [2:34:09, 2:34:11]: We we certainly [2:34:11, 2:34:14]: have to understand these residents have to live there. [2:34:15, 2:34:16]: And they have to be [2:34:16, 2:34:18]: Um, have to have some buy in to [2:34:19, 2:34:21]: Uh want to move forward with this project. [2:34:22, 2:34:23]: And just [2:34:23, 2:34:24]: Over the course of the last [2:34:25, 2:34:27]: Week and a half to two weeks. [2:34:27, 2:34:28]: Just um [2:34:28, 2:34:31]: Communication after communication where [2:34:31, 2:34:34]: The residents were just vehemently opposed. [2:34:34, 2:34:36]: In terms of uh having the trucks [2:34:37, 2:34:39]: uh come through that area and [2:34:39, 2:34:42]: Then that was the number one concern amongst the residents is that [2:34:42, 2:34:45]: You know, back in the day somebody did this to us. [2:34:46, 2:34:49]: They put this drive time facility behind our [2:34:49, 2:34:52]: uh neighborhood and y'all get ready to do it to us again. [2:34:53, 2:34:55]: No matter what was said. [2:34:55, 2:34:58]: Well, to say, well, this would bring a benefit or [2:34:58, 2:35:01]: You know, we might be able to get the trucks out of your neighborhood. [2:35:01, 2:35:02]: Excuse me. [2:35:02, 2:35:09]: But when the person said to me, listen, I'd rather have those trucks continue to come through my neighborhood rather than having another [2:35:09, 2:35:11]: uh warehouse development close to us. [2:35:12, 2:35:15]: I mean, what else do you say? You give'em a option that might be able to help. [2:35:16, 2:35:20]: And they say, nope, no, we'd just rather just have the trucks continue to come through our neighborhood. [2:35:20, 2:35:22]: Until something better comes along. [2:35:22, 2:35:23]: I think [2:35:23, 2:35:43]: Uh in the end for us, uh the LCI plan uh is a concrete plan. It's you know, there may be some too much intense development over there, but uh for the primetime property, uh I think the plan is solid in terms of the LCI drawing hotels, maybe uh potential meetings. [2:35:43, 2:35:47]: spaces and residential uh going over there. [2:35:47, 2:35:51]: But to go against that much uh opposition. [2:35:52, 2:35:52]: Which is [2:35:53, 2:35:55]: solidly united against the project. [2:35:55, 2:35:58]: You know, I couldn't do that in good conscience because. [2:35:58, 2:36:18]: the residents over there, they they just they just can't see it happening. And they count on us and they said to us, listen, you represent us. This is what we need to be done. And we do not want this. So how do I look back at those residents and say, you know, we're going to do it anyway. [2:36:18, 2:36:20]: Even though you said that you don't want it. [2:36:21, 2:36:22]: And um go for it. [2:36:22, 2:36:23]: And um [2:36:24, 2:36:26]: You know, some issues that come before us. [2:36:26, 2:36:27]: There's mixed. [2:36:29, 2:36:29]: Um [2:36:30, 2:36:31]: type of responses. [2:36:32, 2:36:36]: There was no mix on this particular one. And based on based on what they said. [2:36:36, 2:36:38]: All right, Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please, sir. [2:36:39, 2:36:41]: Thank you, Mayor. Um [2:36:42, 2:36:48]: I've had conversation with men of the residents that were especially in the last [2:36:48, 2:36:50]: Uh month or so [2:36:50, 2:36:55]: And I think the the impact is is so negative. [2:36:55, 2:36:58]: Uh, that I just just do not see how we can go forward. [2:36:59, 2:37:02]: I'm not gonna speak long on it, but I'm going to move [2:37:03, 2:37:04]: uh that we deny. [2:37:06, 2:37:10]: made a motion move to deny is there a second on that second I second. [2:37:10, 2:37:16]: Well Mayor Pro Tem second that if there's for any further discussion and if not all in favored motion, please indicate. [2:37:18, 2:37:26]: It looks like okay. So see now speaking on that. All right. And then also there's a copyright plan amendment case uh involving this as well. [2:37:26, 2:37:28]: And what's the motion on that? [2:37:29, 2:37:30]: Need a motion on that portion as well. [2:37:31, 2:37:32]: Motion to I move to deny. [2:37:32, 2:37:40]: Okay, uh mayor protest spoke up moved to deny uh council uh Gantt, council can't second that any further discussion. [2:37:40, 2:37:42]: And if not, all in favor, please indicate. [2:37:43, 2:38:01]: All right. So otherwise it's the unanimous decision on that. All right. Ms. Battle and Mr. Coleman, obviously the council decides to deny the request thus far for both cases. All right. Appreciate you being uh being present. Thank you. Thank you. [2:38:01, 2:38:02]: Thank you. [2:38:02, 2:38:07]: All right. Public hearing, bullet budget hearing, first reading. Uh Mr. Wiggins, please. [2:38:09, 2:38:29]: Yes, thank you, Mayor and Council. This is the first budget hearing for the proposed FY 2022 operation, operating budget. This proposed budget is intended to place the city of Stockbridge in the position of serving the citizens at the highest. [2:38:29, 2:38:36]: Level during 2022 and in the future. The revenue projections for FY 2022. [2:38:37, 2:38:40]: For the general fund is 17.4. [2:38:41, 2:38:45]: Our enterprise funds are coming in at twenty four point nine. [2:38:46, 2:38:48]: We have an increase of about four point seven [2:38:49, 2:38:53]: From twenty twenty one at twelve point seven. [2:38:55, 2:38:59]: This increase is uh mainly due to uh [2:39:01, 2:39:06]: The city trying to implement and start a new police department. [2:39:07, 2:39:13]: We do have salary increases, approximately about 200 some thousand. [2:39:13, 2:39:14]: Excuse me. [2:39:16, 2:39:35]: What's what's what's going on there? Yeah, we don't have any, I don't see any of this on the screen. Can some I mean we're talking and nobody can see what he's talking about for the public for the public. I'm sorry, this is this is a use this is a this is I just summarized uh the budget that was uh passed out. [2:39:36, 2:39:41]: Okay, I mean, do you have anything to show to the public so they can see? I mean, this is their money, so [2:39:42, 2:39:49]: Are you able to put your you're highlighting uh the the actual letter itself? Do you have that where you can put it up if that'll help be helpful? [2:39:49, 2:39:51]: Yeah, let me see if you can do that. [2:39:57, 2:39:58]: Let's see. [2:40:11, 2:40:19]: Do you see it? I'm sorry. Yeah, that's what you were highlighting. That doc document right there. We see something. What is in the 2022 budget? You just had it, sir. [2:40:20, 2:40:20]: Okay. [2:40:21, 2:40:23]: I'm trying to move it down to it. [2:40:26, 2:40:37]: Are you able to see that? Yeah, it is just uh, I mean, it's it's we can see it is uh I mean some miles away you can make it a little bigger there or or whatever the case may be, because part of it's cut off. [2:40:40, 2:40:41]: Can you maximize your screen? [2:40:42, 2:40:43]: Uh, let's see. [2:40:46, 2:40:48]: That's a little bigger, a little better. [2:40:48, 2:40:51]: No no sirve. Not not really. At this point. [2:40:54, 2:40:56]: It didn't change at all. Yeah. [2:40:56, 2:40:57]: No, right, it did. [2:40:58, 2:41:02]: your top toolbar at the very top of the screen. [2:41:02, 2:41:04]: Yes, where next to this. [2:41:04, 2:41:06]: You click click on that square. [2:41:10, 2:41:12]: That blue strip that's at the very top. [2:41:13, 2:41:13]: Oh screen. [2:41:27, 2:41:32]: Is this the only document that you had to show uh that tonight, uh Mr. Wiggins? It is. [2:41:34, 2:41:47]: All right. This is the only document. It's still showing small. Yeah, yeah, it's just it's not uh it's not improving. So go the go ahead and and uh do the best you can and continue on so we can move through with this as possible, best is possible. [2:41:49, 2:41:50]: Okay. [2:41:52, 2:41:54]: All right. Um [2:41:56, 2:42:02]: The budget coming the uh the 4.7 increase is uh due to the um new police department. [2:42:03, 2:42:04]: Um [2:42:05, 2:42:15]: Salary and benefit increases. And also we have the budget includes new positions, which will be 58 police, police officers. [2:42:17, 2:42:24]: Three uh positions in community development, one position in municipal court, and one in human resources. [2:42:24, 2:42:25]: Um [2:42:27, 2:42:28]: Revenue. [2:42:29, 2:42:38]: We're also gonna increase in this budget here, it's 4.7. That's due to the loss, fines, and forfeitures. [2:42:39, 2:42:41]: And as well as um [2:42:43, 2:42:47]: property test and and the rollback tests that we're gonna get for the police department. [2:42:48, 2:42:49]: Um [2:42:50, 2:42:52]: With the twenty twenty two [2:42:53, 2:42:54]: Budget proposed. [2:42:54, 2:43:11]: Uh staff is asking that city, the mayor and council uh review and this is the first hearing, so I'm asking you to review. We we are able to make changes all the way up to the last uh hearing. [2:43:14, 2:43:20]: Is there anything else, John, that you want to no, that's that's it. All right, council. What kind of questions do you have for Mr. Wiggins right now? [2:43:22, 2:43:24]: Questions, concerns that you may have. [2:43:24, 2:43:25]: Yes. [2:43:25, 2:43:27]: Go right right here, please. [2:43:27, 2:43:30]: Uh initially we had talked to Mr. Knighton. [2:43:30, 2:43:33]: Абата компрегенсив бютифікація. [2:43:33, 2:43:37]: and uh redevelopment plan for North Henry Boulevard. [2:43:38, 2:43:40]: That was supposed to be a hundred thousand dollars. [2:43:41, 2:43:44]: uh allocated we had discussed it in last year's budget. [2:43:45, 2:43:48]: I thought it was in there. I think Mr Knighton said that we could [2:43:48, 2:43:51]: We had the money to actually do it this year, but [2:43:51, 2:43:52]: That's something that uh [2:43:53, 2:43:54]: We've often desired to have [2:43:55, 2:43:57]: A a comprehensive plan as we [2:43:57, 2:43:59]: Come forward with the amphitheater. [2:43:59, 2:44:02]: Uh I hear it so many times. What are you guys gonna do? [2:44:02, 2:44:05]: About the appearance of North Henry Boulevard. [2:44:05, 2:44:06]: Where as um [2:44:06, 2:44:09]: The proposal again was a hundred thousand dollars. [2:44:10, 2:44:11]: For a comprehensive [2:44:11, 2:44:14]: design and beautification plan. [2:44:14, 2:44:17]: uh for North Henry Boulevard. Is that included? [2:44:17, 2:44:19]: uh in this uh budget, Mr. Wickets. [2:44:21, 2:44:31]: I'm not aware of um that being included. Um I will have to maybe revert to public works. Um [2:44:32, 2:44:35]: Maybe Mr. Nighting had mentioned it to him, but I I [2:44:35, 2:44:37]: Overall I d I don't remember. [2:44:37, 2:44:39]: of that being put into the budget. [2:44:39, 2:44:41]: Okay, is Mr Mr. Aaron on the call? [2:44:42, 2:44:48]: He he should be on the call. Mr. Wet. Yes, Pro Cam, I'm on the call. Could could you speak to that? [2:44:49, 2:45:00]: I'm not aware of that. Mr. Knighton hadn't mentioned that to me, but one of the concerns we had talked about beautification along North Henry is that there is really no right-of-way on North Henry. [2:45:01, 2:45:05]: For any beautification, significant beautification projects. [2:45:05, 2:45:07]: 'Cause the majority of the right of ways. [2:45:07, 2:45:10]: Is very tight on that road and you have to get G dot approval. [2:45:11, 2:45:17]: And but he never mentioned anything about budgeting for beautification plan for North Henry. [2:45:18, 2:45:22]: Well, the the two areas that I could think of right offhand are right by the water tower. [2:45:23, 2:45:25]: on that heel that has nothing on it. [2:45:25, 2:45:26]: And uh [2:45:27, 2:45:29]: right in front of Walmart uh on that corner. [2:45:30, 2:45:31]: And then um [2:45:32, 2:45:33]: The the vacant lot. [2:45:34, 2:45:37]: Right next to uh what used to be the old Denny's. [2:45:38, 2:45:41]: uh in that area. So there there's some areas that we can deal with. [2:45:42, 2:45:43]: But the city has [2:45:43, 2:45:47]: Every citizen that I talked to said, what do you get? I know the amphitheatre is beautiful. [2:45:47, 2:45:50]: What are you all gonna do about the appearance? [2:45:50, 2:45:54]: on North Henry Boulevard. This is inclusive of the downtown area. [2:45:55, 2:45:58]: Uh, that whole corridor coming through the main street area. [2:45:58, 2:45:59]: Uh to [2:45:59, 2:46:00]: A rock quarry. [2:46:01, 2:46:02]: All the way to [2:46:02, 2:46:07]: uh where the Walmart is and even uh to the city limits where the Krispy Kreme is. [2:46:08, 2:46:11]: Uh, this is something that I'm calling on this council to [2:46:11, 2:46:13]: take a lead in and say [2:46:14, 2:46:16]: We are going to make a difference. [2:46:17, 2:46:21]: Because we've already hired an additional code enforcement officer to be able to [2:46:21, 2:46:22]: мов [2:46:23, 2:46:26]: Uh, uncompliant businesses in the right direction. [2:46:26, 2:46:31]: And we developed we bought another we bought a street sweeper, we bought another street sweeper. [2:46:31, 2:46:33]: We have a litter team out there. [2:46:34, 2:46:36]: Uh, we have contractors cutting the right of way. [2:46:36, 2:46:38]: But the beautification is something [2:46:39, 2:46:40]: That is missing is striking. [2:46:41, 2:46:42]: Uh, it but the [2:46:42, 2:46:44]: But I'm certainly calling on the council to [2:46:45, 2:46:46]: Um, have this be [2:46:46, 2:46:52]: A budgetary issue because we had discussed it previously, and somehow it was not in last year's budget. [2:46:55, 2:47:03]: So that's obviously something we need to look at and how we can fit that in if possible, how we make it fit in this aspect. So some additional work needs to be done. Any other comments from the council? [2:47:05, 2:47:10]: I certainly support the suggestion of Mayor Pro Tem Alexander. [2:47:11, 2:47:14]: Okay. Thank you for that. Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. [2:47:14, 2:47:16]: Well, I I I I support that as well. [2:47:17, 2:47:20]: Uh Mayor, let me ask you a question first. [2:47:20, 2:47:21]: Um uh [2:47:22, 2:47:29]: Uh motions, even though this is the first budget reading, uh motions being accepted uh tonight. [2:47:30, 2:47:50]: Well, I mean, the let me let me say it this way. I mean, we made you made suggestions, got a simple consensus. We'll take a look at obviously this uh this uh amount of beaufication with North Henry Boulevard, figure out how we can fit that in there and have to present that at the next reading. Um, and now I I would imagine I don't know if we need a motion for that or if this aspect of [2:47:50, 2:47:55]: probably we have to double check with attorneys if that's more appropriate or not. But uh [2:47:55, 2:48:00]: It's a simple request I would think that we would we honestly take a look at and see what we can do. It's gotta come back to the council anyway. [2:48:01, 2:48:08]: in this aspect so I mean it's gotta come back to you. I mean thank you for that and and I I I thought the answer would be yes but [2:48:08, 2:48:10]: What I like to do and take the opportunity [2:48:11, 2:48:12]: I have um [2:48:14, 2:48:19]: Annually, I usually write up my position on the overall budget. [2:48:20, 2:48:23]: And I hadn't had a whole lot of time to go all the way through it. [2:48:24, 2:48:31]: Uh but I I do have a write-up, and if you would allow me for at least um three or four minutes. [2:48:31, 2:48:33]: To re um [2:48:34, 2:48:40]: some of my concerns into the record uh for this uh first uh reading. [2:48:41, 2:48:44]: And and I'm going back to the police department and [2:48:45, 2:49:05]: you know i i i i even though i didn't vote that way i i i was pretty much in favor of tabling that because i wanted sort of to discuss some things with the chief offline uh but i'm gonna have to now just go i'm just gonna go ahead and read some of my concerns in. Okay before you before as you read them before you read I mean as you read them [2:49:05, 2:49:13]: I would imagine that we'll be able to get copies of that so we can follow up on what we the adjustments need to be made before we bring it back for the second reading. [2:49:13, 2:49:33]: Yes, yes. That's that's one of the reasons why I want to read it into the record. And I sort of take it slow, but I I did not have time to uh share this with any of the council members because of the uh election. And I guess you can tell my voice is sort of shot, but if you will um indulge me to to read some of [2:49:33, 2:49:47]: this and I will take it a little slow, Madam Clerk, if you needed to uh record uh what I'm saying, but I will submit this. Okay. First I'm going to start with the uh police department uh with the job descriptions. [2:49:47, 2:49:50]: Uh the proposed budget for the city staff has the new [2:49:51, 2:49:53]: Job descriptions included. [2:49:53, 2:49:54]: As it should be. [2:49:55, 2:49:57]: All of the police departments. [2:49:58, 2:50:01]: And positions are new positions. [2:50:02, 2:50:05]: But there are only two job descriptions attached. [2:50:06, 2:50:09]: The council need to see and approve all job descriptions. [2:50:09, 2:50:11]: For the police department as well. [2:50:12, 2:50:14]: We cannot approve. [2:50:15, 2:50:18]: pay and class or organization chart. [2:50:18, 2:50:20]: Without knowing [2:50:20, 2:50:22]: What the job descriptions are. [2:50:23, 2:50:27]: And uh when we was on that agenda item earlier, that's why I saw the mention [2:50:27, 2:50:30]: There are required. [2:50:31, 2:50:31]: Um [2:50:32, 2:50:36]: protocol in municipal government and and that's one of those. [2:50:36, 2:50:48]: Um then one of my questions is that a salary analysis of command sal staff salaries that include uh McDonough and other uh comparative. [2:50:48, 2:50:50]: Comparable cities. [2:50:50, 2:50:52]: And we just need to make sure. [2:50:52, 2:50:54]: That we are in line. [2:50:54, 2:50:57]: Um while also being competitive. [2:50:57, 2:51:00]: And I do understand that we have to be [2:51:00, 2:51:03]: uh competitive to attract the the best officer. [2:51:04, 2:51:05]: Excuse me. [2:51:06, 2:51:08]: Public works vehicles. [2:51:10, 2:51:16]: There have been great improvements in the cities right away, and I want to commend the public work staff for their efforts. [2:51:16, 2:51:22]: The parks are great access to our community and I look forward to moving forward with. [2:51:23, 2:51:24]: The parks [2:51:24, 2:51:26]: Master plan. [2:51:26, 2:51:30]: So let me uh underline that. I know we talked about this earlier. [2:51:31, 2:51:31]: Um [2:51:32, 2:51:35]: One of the things I like to see is a park. [2:51:36, 2:51:38]: In the uh northern section. [2:51:39, 2:51:39]: Yeah. [2:51:41, 2:51:53]: I'm trying to get my directions together, but um there is no park other than Monument Park, say in the uh Eagles Landing uh community. So within the parks. [2:51:53, 2:51:56]: Master plan to enhance the quality of life. [2:51:57, 2:51:57]: Um [2:51:58, 2:52:01]: for all improvements in the city. So I I'd just like to sort of see that. [2:52:02, 2:52:03]: And and [2:52:04, 2:52:06]: Uh Madam Clerk. [2:52:06, 2:52:10]: Am I reading at a speed where we can we can capture this? [2:52:15, 2:52:16]: Madam Clerk. [2:52:18, 2:52:19]: Yes, I'm I'm following you. [2:52:20, 2:52:21]: Okay, thank you. [2:52:21, 2:52:22]: Um [2:52:22, 2:52:23]: Water [2:52:24, 2:52:28]: sewer and storm water department continues to make [2:52:28, 2:52:30]: infrastructure improvements in the city. [2:52:31, 2:52:36]: And many of those projects are being reimbursed by APA funds, which is great. [2:52:37, 2:52:39]: But I like to see [2:52:39, 2:52:43]: as it relates to city vehicles. And we sort of talked about this too. [2:52:44, 2:52:48]: a vehicle replacement plan and policy. [2:52:49, 2:52:51]: Submitted and attached. [2:52:51, 2:52:53]: to the budget annually. [2:52:55, 2:52:56]: Human resources [2:53:01, 2:53:05]: Let me go back and finish out um public works. [2:53:08, 2:53:11]: Having this background and information [2:53:11, 2:53:14]: Will assist us in making decisions. [2:53:14, 2:53:16]: On improving [2:53:16, 2:53:17]: And funding [2:53:18, 2:53:20]: Vio VHOS request. [2:53:20, 2:53:21]: In the budget. [2:53:22, 2:53:24]: I would like to recommend all [2:53:25, 2:53:30]: FY twenty twenty two request be contingent upon receiving [2:53:30, 2:53:31]: And approving. [2:53:32, 2:53:39]: The vehicle replacement plan and policy, and ask for council support on this recommendation. [2:53:39, 2:53:41]: human resources position. [2:53:42, 2:53:47]: During one of the uh budget retreats, the HR manager noted that the threshold [2:53:48, 2:53:51]: And HR was around one hundred employees. [2:53:51, 2:53:56]: The police department would take would take us over that threshold. [2:53:56, 2:54:00]: And this position is definitely going to be needed. [2:54:00, 2:54:03]: So because of the great majority of staffing at it. [2:54:04, 2:54:08]: Well that will be in the police department. I am recommending [2:54:08, 2:54:11]: This position be an H R [2:54:11, 2:54:18]: manager position under police services dedicated solely to [2:54:18, 2:54:19]: Um [2:54:20, 2:54:21]: To public safety employees. [2:54:22, 2:54:23]: And not [2:54:23, 2:54:27]: And not add that put that burden on our current [2:54:28, 2:54:29]: HR department. [2:54:30, 2:54:32]: Um Чітрем, а но. [2:54:32, 2:54:35]: In in our discussion and at your town hall. [2:54:35, 2:54:36]: You mentioned [2:54:36, 2:54:37]: That there [2:54:37, 2:54:38]: Well [2:54:39, 2:54:44]: um some mechanism within the part in your department that would take care of those duties. [2:54:44, 2:54:48]: So I I guess when I finish reading this, you may want to respond to that. [2:54:49, 2:54:49]: Um [2:54:50, 2:54:52]: She trim is going to need someone [2:54:52, 2:54:55]: experienced and dedicated [2:54:55, 2:54:58]: to onboard an a police department personnel. [2:54:59, 2:55:02]: having experience with public safety. [2:55:02, 2:55:06]: With public safety policies, procedure and training. [2:55:07, 2:55:10]: It is important that we have someone with a minimum. [2:55:11, 2:55:13]: Of ten years of HR experience. [2:55:14, 2:55:22]: With public safety employees and have the job description and funding be amended to reflect this recommendation. [2:55:24, 2:55:26]: Therefore, I like to motion [2:55:27, 2:55:28]: To a man. [2:55:28, 2:55:31]: The HR coordinator position. [2:55:31, 2:55:34]: Uh an HR manager. [2:55:34, 2:55:36]: to public services [2:55:36, 2:55:38]: And place under the police department. [2:55:39, 2:55:40]: With a minimum [2:55:40, 2:55:43]: Of ten years of public safety. [2:55:43, 2:55:48]: HR experience and all associated funding. [2:55:49, 2:55:52]: So madam clerk, do I need to restate the motion? [2:55:55, 2:56:00]: If you would please read beginning with with your motion, if you don't mind. [2:56:01, 2:56:03]: I've moved to a min. [2:56:03, 2:56:06]: The HR Coordinator position. [2:56:07, 2:56:07]: To [2:56:08, 2:56:09]: HR manager. [2:56:09, 2:56:11]: To publish services. [2:56:12, 2:56:14]: And placed under the police department. [2:56:14, 2:56:16]: With a minimum [2:56:16, 2:56:19]: Of ten years of public safety. [2:56:19, 2:56:21]: HR experience. [2:56:21, 2:56:24]: And all associated funding. [2:56:26, 2:56:46]: And I will uh continue to this process in which this is something that I do annually. And I will forward uh what I just read to to our council members. Uh, because of the election and some other thing, I just did not have time uh to forward this over to any of the council members. And and this is just a [2:56:46, 2:56:53]: Rough draft of some of the recommendations that I would be making uh going forward. And this being um [2:56:53, 2:56:55]: The first reading. [2:56:55, 2:56:58]: But I do uh counsel and and Madam Clerk. [2:56:58, 2:57:01]: Like to put that motion uh on the table for tonight. [2:57:03, 2:57:04]: Is there a second to the motion? [2:57:06, 2:57:15]: Ms. Barber seconds that motion. So uh any further discussion from the council and or even HR or the legal in this aspect as well. [2:57:17, 2:57:18]: Any comments? [2:57:18, 2:57:20]: Discussion. [2:57:20, 2:57:30]: Well Mayor, I uh I mean it sounds good, but I would prefer to hear from HR and I would prefer to hear from what you know, what the normal is. [2:57:30, 2:57:33]: I get it. I just want to make sure whether or not [2:57:33, 2:57:38]: this is normal or not. I I don't know. I'm not a HR specialist. I don't know. [2:57:38, 2:57:40]: If they're used to having [2:57:40, 2:57:42]: Fifty people or [2:57:42, 2:57:48]: Or a hundred people or how many people can one HR department ha handle and [2:57:48, 2:57:52]: What is a usual employee? I I I don't know. So [2:57:52, 2:57:53]: It sounds good. [2:57:53, 2:57:55]: I just think that we should [2:57:55, 2:57:56]: You know. [2:57:57, 2:57:58]: Hear from someone. [2:57:59, 2:58:05]: Um in regards to the structure of of the suggestion of Councilman Thomas, I I [2:58:07, 2:58:13]: I don't know. Like who's to say that this is normal or not normal? [2:58:13, 2:58:16]: Or that we shouldn't do it, or no. [2:58:17, 2:58:22]: You know, normally what if Miss Willer has worked at other cities and she's represent [2:58:22, 2:58:25]: You know, she's half the police department in addition to [2:58:25, 2:58:28]: Our city house that I think she worked in Riverdale or or wherever. [2:58:29, 2:58:30]: I don't know. [2:58:30, 2:58:33]: So I don't want to just vote [2:58:33, 2:58:37]: It sounds good, but I I need to hear from her. [2:58:38, 2:58:40]: And I wouldn't need to hear from [2:58:40, 2:58:45]: You know, w the no normal operating structures and procedures for this. [2:58:45, 2:58:47]: Ms. Wheeler, go ahead, please. [2:58:48, 2:58:51]: Well, normally you would not have an HR. [2:58:51, 2:58:54]: Manager in the police department of this size. [2:58:55, 2:59:00]: At the city of Riverdale was a hundred and twenty-five, roughly almost a hundred and twenty-five employees when I was there. [2:59:01, 2:59:03]: And I was the sole HR manager there. [2:59:04, 2:59:05]: Working with police. [2:59:06, 2:59:09]: In the police department, they normally have a commander. [2:59:09, 2:59:10]: Um [2:59:11, 2:59:14]: Who works with the chief of police? [2:59:14, 2:59:16]: In the hiring [2:59:16, 2:59:20]: Of their uh police officers and command staff. [2:59:21, 2:59:29]: And HR works with the chief of police to advertise for those positions, and their staff there would hire. [2:59:29, 2:59:32]: Along with the command staff of the department. [2:59:33, 2:59:35]: So bringing in um [2:59:35, 2:59:38]: An HR manager into an operation like that when [2:59:38, 2:59:40]: He will already have individuals. [2:59:41, 2:59:44]: Who will be assisting in the recruitment? [2:59:44, 2:59:49]: of police officers is all that is necessary in the police uh department. [2:59:51, 2:59:54]: Okay. Chief Framer and I have spoken to that. [2:59:54, 2:59:55]: Um [2:59:55, 3:00:02]: with the assist what assistance will be given in his department to HR and and how that will be set up. [3:00:03, 3:00:09]: Okay. Well n thank you for answering that. So in Riverdale you had about a hundred and twenty police officers. [3:00:09, 3:00:18]: No, we had roughly twenty, was roughly on the about twenty-five, twenty-eight, I believe. I'm not really certain now, because we had fire. [3:00:19, 3:00:21]: А файр департ алсо. [3:00:21, 3:00:26]: And you handle it both fire and police. Fire and police. [3:00:27, 3:00:30]: Well, in that if that's the case and it's normal for [3:00:31, 3:00:36]: The in most of your cities, that's the way it's set up. If you go to the city of Hampton. [3:00:36, 3:00:38]: Um the city of McDonough. [3:00:39, 3:00:42]: Um city of Morrow, any of those cities. [3:00:42, 3:00:44]: Their HR. [3:00:44, 3:00:45]: Handles. [3:00:46, 3:00:47]: The staffing [3:00:47, 3:00:50]: With the police department for all of the cities. [3:00:50, 3:00:52]: There is no separate HR. [3:00:52, 3:00:57]: Thank you, Miss Willer. I tell you what, guys, I think we've spent enough money. [3:00:58, 3:00:58]: Really? [3:00:59, 3:01:03]: And I I don't see why we need to add additional staff. That is the fact. [3:01:04, 3:01:07]: You know, and Councilman Thomas, I respect your [3:01:07, 3:01:09]: Your suggestion. It sounded good. [3:01:10, 3:01:16]: But when looking at the facts of of what other cities do as well as what Ms. Willer is used to. [3:01:16, 3:01:20]: then I would totally be against that. I don't need to spend another dime. [3:01:23, 3:01:24]: All right, uh [3:01:25, 3:01:29]: Uh Mr. Thomas, stand by for a second. Stand by. Chief Tramor. [3:01:30, 3:01:35]: Yeah, uh Mayor, I I was gonna ask the chief, and I and I know he spoke of this at his uh town hall. [3:01:36, 3:01:36]: Um [3:01:37, 3:01:42]: someone in his department that would take care of those duties. [3:01:42, 3:01:53]: Um maybe maybe you were going to ask me or maybe you're going to ask me. No, I was going to ask him that. That's exactly what I was going to do. Okay. That's exactly so T Tramor, I I need the response, sir. [3:01:54, 3:01:56]: Yes, sir. And typically [3:01:57, 3:02:01]: The police department, in my experience, does not have its own HR representative. [3:02:02, 3:02:12]: Um there is an HR coordinator. Uh my previous employment we had an HR coordinator that was assigned to the police department, but still under the umbrella of human resources. [3:02:12, 3:02:15]: They worked inside the police department with [3:02:16, 3:02:20]: Department to help facilitate the employment processes in various different HR functions. [3:02:21, 3:02:24]: But again, they were uh part of the human resources team. [3:02:25, 3:02:32]: And not necessarily the police department, not to say that doesn't work. I I I will say that in our organizational chart, which we'll talk about a little bit later. [3:02:32, 3:02:35]: Uh we do have a position for a background recruitment officer. [3:02:35, 3:02:39]: An officer is assigned specifically with um [3:02:40, 3:02:47]: recruiting and uh interviewing, onboarding, hiring new employees into the police department. [3:02:47, 3:02:57]: That person will work very closely with either the human resources coordinator, the human resources manager to ensure that the city's HR processes are adhered to. [3:02:57, 3:03:07]: uh but also that the police department's um uh processes for hiring, which tend to be more stringent than the city's processes just because of the public safety sensitive position. [3:03:07, 3:03:19]: that um uh they will be assigned to do that. And to Miss Wheeler's point, uh there will be a commander overseeing that division. So they ultimately will have responsibility to make sure that those processes are being followed. [3:03:20, 3:03:23]: And um that's that's essentially how we're aligned right now. [3:03:25, 3:03:28]: Okay, Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. Yeah, I I like to um [3:03:29, 3:03:32]: Amend or modify my motion, if I may. [3:03:32, 3:03:33]: Go right ahead. [3:03:34, 3:03:38]: Uh Madam Clerk, my my motion the amended [3:03:38, 3:03:38]: Um [3:03:39, 3:03:40]: version of this motion. [3:03:41, 3:03:46]: Um is to amend the HR coordinator position. [3:03:47, 3:03:48]: Two HR. [3:03:50, 3:03:53]: With a minimum of ten years. [3:03:53, 3:03:55]: A public safety. [3:03:56, 3:03:57]: HR experience. [3:03:58, 3:04:05]: And all associated funding, because as uh the chief just mentioned, and even as Mrs. Wheeler just mentioned. [3:04:06, 3:04:08]: You're going to need someone. [3:04:08, 3:04:10]: Uh in that position. [3:04:10, 3:04:18]: um that that have this uh qualification to make sure that the police department is is going forward. So [3:04:18, 3:04:20]: Uh Mayor, that is the motion. [3:04:21, 3:04:22]: And um [3:04:22, 3:04:26]: I I I request a a second and moving forward on the motion. [3:04:27, 3:04:27]: Is there a second? [3:04:29, 3:04:30]: Is there a second? [3:04:33, 3:04:37]: Seems there was no second. Okay. Oh, Miss Barber, you second this motion now. Is that right? [3:04:39, 3:04:40]: All right. [3:04:41, 3:04:43]: All right, any more f any further discussion? [3:04:45, 3:04:54]: Okay, I'll I wanna I wanna hear from Chi Tramer one more time. All right. Does this fit into what your plans are for the police department? Would this is this? [3:04:54, 3:04:55]: What you had in mind? [3:04:59, 3:05:00]: Or honestly [3:05:00, 3:05:10]: Based on the size of our department, um starting out there around, you know, less than sixty employees. Um I honestly I don't believe that it's fully necessary to have [3:05:10, 3:05:15]: full time HR position within the department because we have a position, a sworn position. [3:05:15, 3:05:18]: or a background and recruitment investigator who will be responsible. [3:05:19, 3:05:20]: For [3:05:20, 3:05:22]: basically posting jobs as they become available. [3:05:23, 3:05:27]: Uh, to make sure that the officers are adhering to all of our screening uh processes. [3:05:27, 3:05:36]: And they essentially will be telling HR who it is that we're hiring. We'll have to work through HR to do the city processes that are required for all employees. [3:05:36, 3:05:41]: But essentially this position will be uh responsible for the vast majority. [3:05:41, 3:05:43]: of the um [3:05:43, 3:05:57]: uh recruitment and background functions within the department. Certainly I think it would be a benefit uh to Ms. Wheeler and her team to have an HR position, and that position honestly probably should [3:05:57, 3:06:03]: um uh or will be more realistically uh very involved in assisting the police department. [3:06:04, 3:06:08]: uh with various HR functions, but um I think that [3:06:08, 3:06:16]: Um it's it's just not typical for a department of our size and scope to have that position within within the organization. [3:06:17, 3:06:25]: Mayor, let me I I think it's a misunderstanding, Mayor, if I may. Yeah, this third time, Mr. Thomas. Go ahead. Okay. Um [3:06:26, 3:06:28]: Excuse me, the motion. [3:06:29, 3:06:33]: Is not suggesting that this position [3:06:34, 3:06:36]: be in the police department. [3:06:37, 3:06:38]: Excuse me. [3:06:39, 3:06:43]: This position is already being proposed. [3:06:43, 3:06:45]: In a jar. [3:06:45, 3:06:47]: Let me be clear with that. [3:06:47, 3:06:49]: My motion does not [3:06:50, 3:06:52]: Indicate that this position will be [3:06:52, 3:06:55]: under or in the police department. [3:06:56, 3:06:57]: Диспозицін [3:06:58, 3:07:00]: Is already being proposed. [3:07:00, 3:07:03]: uh under the h structure [3:07:04, 3:07:06]: What I am suggesting and requiring is that [3:07:07, 3:07:08]: The level [3:07:08, 3:07:10]: Of qualification. [3:07:11, 3:07:14]: uh be such a a minimum of ten years. [3:07:15, 3:07:16]: O of experience. [3:07:16, 3:07:18]: So that's the difference. So be clear. [3:07:19, 3:07:22]: It is not an HR position. [3:07:22, 3:07:24]: In the Polish department. [3:07:26, 3:07:41]: Okay, so for my clarification, this is for the existing HR position that is recommended uh in the city budget, is more pointed to the qualifications being uh 10 years of experience. Is that what you're suggesting? [3:07:41, 3:07:42]: That is correct. [3:07:42, 3:07:44]: Okay, thank you. [3:07:45, 3:07:53]: Mayor. Uh yes, ma'am, go ahead, please. If if that's a suggestion and if it's already in our proposed budget, then there shouldn't be a vote. [3:07:54, 3:07:58]: Because it's in our proposed budget. If that's what we're gonna talk about. [3:07:58, 3:08:00]: But my concern is [3:08:00, 3:08:02]: Ви специфіки [3:08:03, 3:08:11]: giving a position and saying, okay, this is only for police when that's not what the normal standard procedures are. [3:08:11, 3:08:16]: For and and councilman Thomas is shaking his head. So m it's not only for police. [3:08:16, 3:08:17]: No. [3:08:17, 3:08:23]: Okay, all right. So maybe these are part of the standards and requirements of hiring that particular person. [3:08:24, 3:08:28]: But we are right now talking about the budget. [3:08:28, 3:08:29]: And [3:08:30, 3:08:41]: If we are talking about adding an additional person to HR, we're busting, I don't know if anybody knows, but we found conference rooms to put employees in. [3:08:41, 3:08:42]: We're bursting at the seams. [3:08:43, 3:08:48]: And location wise places to put additional people. [3:08:48, 3:08:49]: No. [3:08:49, 3:08:55]: I wanna make sure that we do this in a smart way and and Chief Tramer with all respect. [3:08:56, 3:09:00]: Um, you know, the council has to vote on your operational chart. [3:09:01, 3:09:03]: We have to tell you. [3:09:04, 3:09:08]: which way we're gonna agree that your operational chart is going to be. [3:09:09, 3:09:11]: And so in addition to that. [3:09:12, 3:09:16]: Um, we you know, we have to determine whether or not. [3:09:17, 3:09:18]: We are going to agree. [3:09:19, 3:09:20]: to those different positions. [3:09:21, 3:09:26]: And I appreciate, you know, your level of expertise and training on that. [3:09:26, 3:09:30]: But I also think that we should be very concerned. [3:09:30, 3:09:31]: On [3:09:32, 3:09:39]: what we're trying to do here. So if if someone is in your department that's recruiting, I can understand them doing back background checks. [3:09:40, 3:09:40]: But [3:09:41, 3:09:44]: I don't think it's your job to say who we hire. [3:09:44, 3:09:47]: I think it's the job of HR to do a panel. [3:09:48, 3:09:52]: And so I think that if the panel includes you, then great. [3:09:53, 3:09:56]: But I also think that we need to be smart. [3:09:57, 3:10:04]: about the way we handle this and we need to make, you know, we don't have to reinvent the wheel is what I'm saying. [3:10:04, 3:10:08]: And I appreciate Councilman Thomas bringing those suggestions and actually looking [3:10:09, 3:10:15]: at the budget and saying, okay, these are things that we really need and we need to focus on that tenure experience and public safety. [3:10:15, 3:10:17]: But Miss Wheeler [3:10:18, 3:10:18]: Who is [3:10:19, 3:10:21]: Who is uh been a HR? [3:10:22, 3:10:27]: Uh in a h position for years and years and yers and years of experience. [3:10:27, 3:10:30]: has dealt with both public safety [3:10:30, 3:10:34]: First responder is fire departments, you name it. [3:10:35, 3:10:40]: So I'm going to rely on her expertise on which way we should go with that. [3:10:41, 3:10:54]: Period. That's what we do. We hire the people and we hire the experts and we ask them the questions and then we make educated, smart financial decisions on which way we're gonna go. [3:10:55, 3:11:03]: Mayor Ford, can I just sort of clear something up, Mayor Ford? Mr. Thomas, you've already spoken three times. Let me go to Mr. Blount here. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [3:11:04, 3:11:07]: Ma Mayor, um I would just like to say that [3:11:08, 3:11:10]: And I you know, I I agree with uh [3:11:11, 3:11:14]: You know, I don't want to to belittle anybody's concerns. [3:11:15, 3:11:18]: But when we talk about experience in public safety. [3:11:19, 3:11:21]: Miss Wheeler has just told us [3:11:22, 3:11:26]: And we've just we recognize that she's been in public, you know, dealing with public safety uh [3:11:27, 3:11:37]: uh for quite a while. So anybody that that is hired on for that position, I'm I'm assuming that she would she would be the one to do the hiring since she's over HR. [3:11:38, 3:11:40]: I think that she would be the pinnacle. [3:11:40, 3:11:44]: She would be the the pinnacle of of that position and [3:11:44, 3:11:49]: Whoever she see deems fit to fall up under her to assist her. [3:11:49, 3:11:55]: Um why are we putting you know, I don't think we we should be at a point of putting so much criteria on her higher. [3:11:55, 3:12:04]: Uh, other than letting her know we want the best qualified person for that position and trust that that she would bring in the best qualified person for that position. [3:12:04, 3:12:10]: Uh it would be great if she could find somebody that would have have the same experience as she does. [3:12:10, 3:12:13]: That that she has, but she has enough experience. [3:12:14, 3:12:16]: Work with public safety and fire. [3:12:17, 3:12:33]: for the position. And I think this as an overseer of that department, she would be able to help herself no matter who she hires and what direction she uh gives that person. So for us to sit here and put stipulations on her hire to say they need 10 years of experience, well you already got that and more. [3:12:33, 3:12:39]: in the person that's gonna be doing the hiring for the position that she's hiring for. So I mean, I don't understand uh [3:12:40, 3:12:43]: That in his to you know, totally I don't understand that, but [3:12:43, 3:12:49]: If it's the will of the council to do what they do and have at it. But I'm just saying that she is the person. [3:12:49, 3:12:54]: That has experience that the very experience that we're talking about right now. So why are we messing with [3:12:54, 3:13:04]: HR is hiring, I'm pretty sure we we have to believe it and have confidence, as we've done with other department heads, that they're gonna hire the person that's best suitable and qualified. [3:13:04, 3:13:07]: to assist them in the areas that needs to be assisted in. [3:13:08, 3:13:20]: All right, thank you for that. So we have a motion on the floor and we add a second. Okay. And uh right now, Miss Holiday, could you read the motion? Make sure we got this clear. We got it straight. Okay, let me go back. [3:13:20, 3:13:23]: So the motion was amended to um [3:13:25, 3:13:34]: To amend the HR coordinator position with a minimum of 10 years HR experience in public safety. [3:13:34, 3:13:35]: Experience. [3:13:36, 3:13:47]: Okay. That's the position. And and to be clear, that position is in the budget, right? That's already in the budget. It's not we this is already in this budget, right? So it's not like something we're suggesting. It's in the budget. [3:13:48, 3:14:02]: You're you're you're correct, uh, it's just that you have to look at if you're changing, you have to look at the cost. Right. The criteria, yeah. Cost and the criteria of the problem. [3:14:04, 3:14:10]: All right. On that note, uh motion is made been second. All have we had plenty of discussions. All in favor, motion, please indicate. [3:14:12, 3:14:14]: Oppose three opposed. [3:14:15, 3:14:16]: I've seen [3:14:16, 3:14:23]: Okay. And I'm staying because I feel like we should very we should go by what the expert, Miss Wheeler, would state. [3:14:23, 3:14:25]: Not not based on our opinion. [3:14:26, 3:14:30]: I would like it documented that my opposition [3:14:31, 3:14:43]: is that this would be uh Ms. Wheeler's hire for the experience that is required rather than the council says what experience they won't require. Because the very thing that we're asking for is the very thing we already have right now. [3:14:44, 3:14:44]: Right. [3:14:45, 3:14:57]: Good is documented 311. Motion passes. Okay, now so anyway, we're talking once again about the pub uh the first hearing of the of the budget. Any other comments about the budget before we open up for public comments? Yes, sir. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [3:14:59, 3:15:02]: Mayor, one of the things I would like this council to look at also. [3:15:02, 3:15:07]: um in in coordination with public works budget is to put a um [3:15:08, 3:15:28]: uh find funding that we could put in for contingency, uh infrastructure contingency funding uh that we would we would uh put in every year. Uh when you talk about small jobs as far as sidewalks, because when we did the study on streets, we also asked for a study to be done on sidewalks. And uh that never [3:15:28, 3:15:43]: Never did I I haven't seen it. I never did come to council on the on the uh sidewalks uh in a different community. So Mr. Mr. Aaron, if you know about it, I mean you can jump in in in a minute. But I would like to see a contingency plan put in place. [3:15:43, 3:15:45]: in those areas that need [3:15:45, 3:16:05]: uh that would call the city for sidewalks and once those funds gone for the year they're just gone for the year but we definitely need to start funding area uh have some contingency funding for infrastructure when it comes to sidewalks because those are i'm pretty sure this council hears quite a bit of that um you know from the from the community uh mr aaron if you [3:16:05, 3:16:19]: You would is there anything that's in in your budget that every year or is that something that's there that that that uh citizens can utilize when it comes to repairing their sidewalks uh versus putting something in the budget now? [3:16:20, 3:16:28]: Uh Councilman Blount, the public works department proposed$150,000 in the 2022 budget for sidewalk. [3:16:28, 3:16:48]: Maintenance and improvement. We've also uh had a solicitation for an on-call vendor to make those improvements. The program will be similar to what the L Meg is. We'll get together a list of sidewalks and neighborhoods, subdivisions, and along streets and thoroughfares, and then we'll present those to the vendor. [3:16:48, 3:17:00]: and then they'll go out and make repairs as required. So there is money in the FY22 budget for sidewalk maintenance. And Ms. Miller will be bringing for council approval, I guess, at the work session. [3:17:01, 3:17:03]: For the uh sidewalk repair vendor. [3:17:03, 3:17:23]: Okay, uh Mr. Aaron, while you're on here, um mayor, if you will, if I could do a point. Um with what with that budget, um, with the sidewalks, because when you guys did the L Meg, when the LMEG study went uh came forward, we we were asked at the same time doing another course of studying at the [3:17:23, 3:17:43]: sidewalls be included. That never did happen. And I guess in between now and and as soon as you can, uh if you could show us how you would determine, because we know the aesthetics over safety. Safety is is more important than aesthetics. You know, you can have a few cracks, but you can't have the off groove [3:17:43, 3:17:50]: moving and all of that asidewalk. So if you could share that with this council in some kind of way or form, how uh it [3:17:50, 3:18:04]: you know, with that happening, having$150,000 in there, whatever you deem is, how how that would be uh disseminated throughout the community. Uh is it in similar similar to the way we did the L Meg, or how how would that be given out? [3:18:04, 3:18:24]: Yes, sir. The sidewalks were evaluated and rated just as the roads were in the latest. The last update, I think it was in 2019. So we do have a process in place for evaluating the sidewalks. They have been identified. It's just a matter of preparing the list and counsel determining the quantity of sidewalks. [3:18:24, 3:18:38]: sidewalks they want to repair every year. Similar to what LMIG is like, we resurface five miles of roads a year. We'd have something maybe like 20, 30, 40, or 50,000 square yards or feet of sidewalk that we repair every year to court. [3:18:39, 3:18:41]: Coordinate with the [3:18:41, 3:18:46]: funding that we allocated in FY 2022 for sidewalk improvements. [3:18:46, 3:18:49]: Thank you. I guess we'll have to get get with you to figure out what those numbers mean. [3:18:49, 3:19:03]: Well, uh, I think I I have to forward it back to the mayor again for dissemination, but previously uh mayor and counsel were given a copy of the uh uh updated uh street and sidewalk assessment. [3:19:03, 3:19:04]: Okay, thank you. [3:19:05, 3:19:05]: Right. [3:19:07, 3:19:17]: I do that, sir, so we can distribute to everybody. I appreciate it, Mr. Aaron. Any other questions or reference to this first public hearing from your council? Any kind of questions or concerns you may have? Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. [3:19:17, 3:19:22]: Uh Mr. Aaron, can you respond to the vehicle replacement plan? [3:19:24, 3:19:32]: Yes, sir. We had drafted something previously we had reviewed with the city manager. I can go back and get that for you. [3:19:32, 3:19:37]: And I was submitted to the mayor for dissemination to uh counsel. [3:19:38, 3:19:39]: All right. [3:19:39, 3:19:46]: I appreciate that, sir. All right, sir. Appreciate that as well. Uh any other questions about the first reading in reference to budget. [3:19:48, 3:19:54]: Any other questions from the council? On that note, not seeing any other questions, I'll open up for a public hearing. [3:19:55, 3:20:06]: Is there anybody online from the on uh online there, uh ladies, Vanessa Holiday and or our public uh relations, our PIO four? [3:20:06, 3:20:09]: There are no raised hands here, Mayor. [3:20:09, 3:20:15]: Okay, so anybody four four of this uh any man four there's there's nothing noted on Facebook. [3:20:15, 3:20:22]: Okay. And so uh anything against uh or any com negative comments or what's on the [3:20:22, 3:20:30]: Budget right now, any public comments at all. And uh my assumption is that there is nothing for Miss Holliday that you see no raised hands, Mayor. [3:20:30, 3:20:34]: Oh okay, and also for the public relations, PL, you see nothing at all, right? [3:20:35, 3:20:36]: Not at this time, Mayor. [3:20:36, 3:20:39]: Okay, so I'll close that public hearing. [3:20:39, 3:20:44]: And we will make adjustments on a documentation that was mentioned earlier and we'll be able to [3:20:44, 3:20:47]: Have some updates uh for our second next public hearing. [3:20:47, 3:20:52]: On that uh which is November thirtieth. November thirtieth. What was it we are work session? [3:20:52, 3:20:54]: Okay, good. Thank you, man. [3:20:54, 3:21:14]: Uh appreciate that. Uh new business council number 10. Council consideration to approve the contract renewal. Department of Course Department requesting the renewal of a competitive solicited contract pursuant of in uh ITB number 16 RFPRFP 10121216 DRR for [3:21:14, 3:21:21]: American Tank Maintenance, LLC, full maintenance, full tank maintenance. Invitation to be at ITB number. [3:21:22, 3:21:26]: Okay, one six RFP one zero one two six DRR for full. [3:21:26, 3:21:37]: Service tank maintenance was approved by the council on April 9th, 2018 for an estimated not to succeed the amount of$614,190. [3:21:37, 3:21:46]: And uh over a 10-year period, the initial contract term of agreement was for one year, then 10 years, then one year renewal options. [3:21:47, 3:21:48]: All right, Mr. Aaron, please. [3:21:50, 3:21:58]: Well I don't I don't I'm not sure if Ms. Miller wants to speak first in reference to this item. Okay, Ms. Miller, you want go ahead, please. [3:21:58, 3:22:18]: Yes, good afternoon, Mayor and Council. As read into the record, this is a renewal for our tank, full service tank maintenance. I would like to include that the contract covers a uh turnkey tank maintenance program. It covers the annual local, state, and federal compliant inspections. [3:22:18, 3:22:38]: Ongoing maintenance, exterior and interior paint renovations, full service repairs, exterior pressure washing, logo design and application, chemical cleaning, mixing systems, fully contained lead abasements and emergency services. [3:22:38, 3:22:58]: As stated, it's a one-year contract with 10 one-year renewals. This is the third renewal. Basically, the Public Works has worked with this vendor and has determined that they are performing in accordance with the contracts, thereby requesting renewal of the contract. I also would like to add, based on the US Bureau of [3:22:58, 3:23:18]: Of labor statistics, paint maintenance from September 2020 has increased 4.8% right now in the market. That being said, the Public Works Department is requesting renewal, and the procurement department is also recommending renewal of the contract. [3:23:19, 3:23:19]: Okay. [3:23:20, 3:23:22]: Questions counsel, you may have in reference to this. [3:23:24, 3:23:25]: Uh Mr. [3:23:26, 3:23:27]: Go ahead, please. [3:23:28, 3:23:30]: Uh talk about the performance of this vendor. Have they [3:23:31, 3:23:36]: Uh of the uh what's what's your confidence in these? Uh I wanna hear it from you directly. [3:23:36, 3:23:39]: In terms of the performance of the vendor and [3:23:39, 3:23:41]: Uh any all alternatives? [3:23:42, 3:23:59]: Well, first of all, there are only two companies in the state of Georgia that perform uh tank maintenance. That's utility service out of Perry, Georgia, and American Tank. When I arrived, we were using utility services. Then the city uh solicited bids to uh [3:24:00, 3:24:20]: Acquired a new contract, then American Tank was the preferred vendor. They have done a great job responding to the city's request when the city asked them to paint the logo, the new logo on the city water tanks. They did that in advance because the original contract had specified that the tanks would be painted in a later year, like five. [3:24:20, 3:24:21]: Five years. [3:24:21, 3:24:24]: in within the contract, so they've done an excellent job of [3:24:25, 3:24:27]: responding to the city's needs and the only [3:24:27, 3:24:41]: other vendor that I know that's in close proximity to the city of Stockbridge is in Kentucky, Henderson, Kentucky, which is Pittsburgh Tank. So there's only two companies. We're used we've used both of them and we're currently [3:24:41, 3:24:42]: And um [3:24:43, 3:24:45]: Contract stages with American Tank. [3:24:47, 3:24:47]: Point two. [3:24:48, 3:24:50]: Any questions? Yes, ma'am, go ahead, please. [3:24:50, 3:24:55]: I don't have a question. I just wanna make a motion to approve. [3:24:58, 3:25:05]: To renew the terminal FP 101 216 dash DRR for full service tank maintenance program. [3:25:06, 3:25:09]: Okay, sir, second, Mr. Bunt second. Daddy further discussion. [3:25:10, 3:25:11]: If not all in favor, please indicate. [3:25:12, 3:25:13]: All right. [3:25:13, 3:25:27]: Okay, good deal. Appreciate it. Uh previous unanimous decision. No, is that you're okay. I'm sorry, Ms. Barber. Go ahead. I'm sorry. I thought you would raise your hand to confirm. You have a what do you want to say, ma'am? I actually have a question for attorney Berry. [3:25:28, 3:25:28]: Um [3:25:29, 3:25:34]: Attorney Berry, can you talk about best practice or explain what best practice? [3:25:35, 3:25:39]: are as it pertains to contract renewals. [3:25:40, 3:25:40]: Um [3:25:41, 3:25:49]: After a certain amount of time, what is common practice or best practice when it comes to rebidding these? [3:25:51, 3:25:58]: I think council member it's gonna vary from contract to contract and service to service. I think ultimately at some point they should go back out to bid. [3:25:59, 3:26:07]: I I think it also just depends what the market looks like as well. There there may be some instances where it's just tough to put something back out to bid or [3:26:07, 3:26:11]: For a variety of reasons you haven't ultimately it should go back out to bid at some point. [3:26:12, 3:26:14]: But I think there may be reasons to also have renewals. [3:26:15, 3:26:18]: as well. It depends how long you are in into a contract. [3:26:19, 3:26:20]: Um [3:26:21, 3:26:25]: I mean, I I think honestly it just depends. Ultimately, at some point contract [3:26:26, 3:26:27]: Calculate. [3:26:29, 3:26:35]: All right. Okay. Okay. We had a motion. We we had a second. Once again, all in favor of motion, please indicate. [3:26:37, 3:26:41]: I've got one, two, three, three, four. And I got four. Miss Marber, are you voting? [3:26:42, 3:26:43]: Ale obsane. [3:26:43, 3:26:50]: Okay, four zero one motion passes. Thank you very much. Mayor, uh yes, sir. Just real quick, Mr. Air. [3:26:51, 3:26:55]: You did say there was only two co two contractors in the state of Georgia. [3:26:56, 3:27:16]: Yes, sir, that I'm aware of. And when I did a Google search. And if you get one out of state, then you gotta pay those additional costs for them to come into the state of Georgia since they don't have a home office here in the state. And we we've used both services. Utility services did a great job for us when they performed the services, but we rebidded the project. [3:27:16, 3:27:20]: American tank was the best value at that time. And so we went with the American tank. [3:27:21, 3:27:22]: Thanks, sir. [3:27:23, 3:27:43]: All right. Okay. Uh we're missing we're bypassing eleven and twelve, and we'll go down to thirteen. Council consideration to approve ITB number twenty twenty-one zero zero zero nine, Burke Street Sewer Rehabilitation, RDJE Incorporated. The city stop bridge procurement division is requesting approval to award a fixed contract to [3:27:43, 3:27:55]: to the lowest responsive and responsible bidder, RDJE, Incorporated, invitation to bid 2021-009 for the city of Stockbridge. [3:27:56, 3:28:05]: Brook Street Sewer Rehabilitation, an amount of$759,307. And presented by uh Miss Miller and Mr. Aaron, please. [3:28:06, 3:28:26]: Uh good afternoon, once again, Mayor and Council. Um, as stated, the city of the City of Stockbridge Procurement Division is requesting approval to award the fixed contract to the low bidder. Um, the work to be completed shall consist of furnishing all labor equipment and material necessaries to install approximately 1,650 linear. [3:28:26, 3:28:46]: Of DIP PV piping. The procurement division solicited the invitation for bid. We received three responses to the bid, and those response, the responders included Helix Group, RDJE, and site engineering, in which RDJE. [3:28:46, 3:28:56]: was the low vendor, as you can also see from the physical impact, the funds will be provided by the ARPA funds. [3:28:58, 3:29:04]: Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate that. Council, any questions for Ms. Miller in reference to this proposal? [3:29:06, 3:29:08]: I'll see you in uh yes, ma'am. [3:29:08, 3:29:18]: I would like to make a motion to approve this agenda item as well to contract with the engineering services of Falcon Design Consultant, Inc. [3:29:19, 3:29:29]: Second. Okay. Okay, Ms. Barber, second that uh all right. Uh any other further conversation qu questions. Not all in favor, please indicate. [3:29:30, 3:29:34]: Ah. Okay, it looks like it's a unanimous decision at time. Okay, fantastic. [3:29:35, 3:29:36]: Alrighty. [3:29:37, 3:29:52]: 14 we've taken off for today. 15, we'll move down to 16. 16 is council consideration approved police department job descriptions, organizational chart and pay classifications. Mr. Well excuse me, Chief Tramor, please. [3:29:55, 3:29:58]: Thank you, Mayor and Council. I want to share my screen here with you. [3:29:58, 3:30:03]: Um and I wanted to address some issues that were brought forward by [3:30:03, 3:30:10]: Councilman Thomas in his comments about the budget. And I think there may be some confusion regarding the presentation this evening. [3:30:10, 3:30:18]: Because I'm not seeking to fully approve job descriptions and pay classifications for every position that we're seeking to hire in the police department. [3:30:18, 3:30:26]: The present time what I'm seeking to do is approve job descriptions for the two positions that were presented to council. It's position of commander and lieutenant commander. [3:30:26, 3:30:34]: And I want to show overall how those positions fit into the current organizational structure, but understanding also that this organizational structure is fluid. [3:30:34, 3:30:40]: And it is subject to change based upon the needs of the department, desires of the community, as well as [3:30:40, 3:30:42]: The will of the council. So [3:30:49, 3:30:49]: Okay. [3:30:51, 3:30:56]: Uh can you all see this presentation fine? We can we can see it, sir. Absolutely. Okay, excellent. [3:30:56, 3:31:08]: So the positions that were submitted were the position of commander and lieutenant commander. These are uh executive level positions that would have distinct responsibilities in the organization. [3:31:08, 3:31:10]: And they would also have um [3:31:10, 3:31:15]: Some responsibilities outside of what would be, I guess, typical for the permanent roles. [3:31:15, 3:31:19]: uh as it relates to uh startup of the department and so [3:31:20, 3:31:25]: With our current organizational structure, uh, and I wanted to pull up here for just a second. [3:31:25, 3:31:29]: What the previous presentation on October twenty sixth. [3:31:29, 3:31:35]: uh had covered. And it was forty-nine officers, nine civilian employees for a total of fifty-eight personnel. [3:31:35, 3:31:48]: Uh the way that this was broken down, uh the positions in red are positions that have changed since then. Uh at the moment, we do not identify a need for an accreditation manager. Uh we thought that we would need uh GCIC tech, which is [3:31:48, 3:31:49]: Uh here at the bottom. [3:31:49, 3:31:54]: And uh this position is actually provided for by um [3:31:54, 3:32:05]: either the Henry County Sheriff's Office by virtue of of uh warrants and by the Henry County uh 911 Communication Center um on other entry items. So this position is not needed. [3:32:06, 3:32:11]: Um the crime intel analyst position was a civilian position that we had uh discussed initially. [3:32:11, 3:32:16]: But at the onset implementation, do not believe this is uh needed. [3:32:16, 3:32:22]: Uh we've made a uh change to the investigator position in doing the assessment to determine the needs of investigators. [3:32:23, 3:32:27]: Uh that range was between five and six, and in consultation with some other police. [3:32:27, 3:32:38]: uh professionals. We thought it would be best to move that up to six investigators to make sure that we can respond to the needs of the citizens and sufficiently investigate crime in the city. [3:32:39, 3:32:43]: And then we added two officer positions and removed the commander position. [3:32:43, 3:32:49]: uh from this organizational chart. So this was the previous chart notating the changes. This is the current [3:32:49, 3:32:50]: uh chart. [3:32:51, 3:32:58]: We combined those three commander positions together with one commander over the field services division, which would be responsible for all patrol operations. [3:32:58, 3:33:03]: One commander over the special uh or the investigative and support services section. [3:33:03, 3:33:12]: And based on the size and scope of the uh patrol division, we have two lieutenant commanders that one would oversee day shift, one would oversee the evening shift. [3:33:13, 3:33:33]: The lieutenant commander would support the commander of the investigative and support services division, who will oversee the Office of Investigations, Crime Scene Processing, Property and Evidence Department Training, as well as administrative roles to include fleet and quartermaster, supply and logistics records coordinator, and obviously an administrative assistant. [3:33:33, 3:33:39]: It would be available for front desk. We also have a lieutenant commander's position. It will report directly to the chief of police. [3:33:39, 3:33:59]: This position will be responsible for our Office of Professional Standards, which will oversee all of the accreditation standards for the department, be responsible for policies and procedures, audits, oversight, internal affairs investigation, but we'll also oversee community affairs as well as our background of recruitment and onboarding process. And that's the position I'd mentioned to you earlier. [3:33:59, 3:34:00]: earlier. [3:34:00, 3:34:09]: So what I'm seeking to do this evening is to approve the commander and lieutenant commander uh job descriptions and the pay range. [3:34:09, 3:34:23]: So we are not considering in full all of these positions. And to your point, Councilman Thomas, we would at a later date, once we decide what exactly this organizational chart looks like, be submitting uh job descriptions for each of these positions. [3:34:23, 3:34:30]: Um and we would post uh all of these positions in accordance with what you've already uh outlined. [3:34:30, 3:34:40]: Uh the initial implementation team, uh the initial group of people that were looking to start the department, um, these would be uh positions that we would [3:34:41, 3:34:57]: uh or rather I guess the correct statement would be that I would select, and this is based on um the experience of these individuals and the needs of the department in terms of moving forward with operations. And so uh what I'm looking for is the approval of four positions. [3:34:57, 3:34:59]: Uh to start. [3:34:59, 3:35:01]: This fiscal year. [3:35:01, 3:35:08]: Uh, the slide that I have here before you is uh just an overall pay scale showing these fifty seven positions, the number of [3:35:08, 3:35:12]: different positions assigned to uh each of these grades. [3:35:12, 3:35:16]: And our current pay grade system we've [3:35:16, 3:35:18]: Align our salaries. [3:35:18, 3:35:24]: within our current organizational structure. And I'm gonna break this down for you here in just a moment so that it makes sense to you. [3:35:24, 3:35:39]: But based on these 57 positions, we'd be looking at salaries of roughly about$3.6 million. We would of course add about 25% to that for benefits, which we've talked about previously. But the request before council this evening is. [3:35:40, 3:35:44]: For thirty one thousand dollars to fund these four positions that will be our um [3:35:45, 3:35:56]: our implementation team and this will cover salaries for the remainder of the year. I checked with Mr. Wiggins. Currently there is not, we will exhaust our police services budget. [3:35:57, 3:35:58]: Uh by virtue of uh [3:35:59, 3:36:02]: paying for supplemental services through Henry County at the moment. [3:36:02, 3:36:07]: Therefore, that thirty-one thousand dollars would need to come from general funds to fund these uh four positions. [3:36:08, 3:36:10]: So that we can get them started hopefully by December. [3:36:11, 3:36:20]: and we would be able to get them moving and assign specific tasks and projects that would be beneficial for the full implementation of the department. [3:36:21, 3:36:30]: So, one of the things that I did want to pull up and sharing my screen here, I did meet with Ms. Wheeler. We talked about these positions. [3:36:30, 3:36:36]: And I wanted to share with you that we did pull data from uh the Georgia Department of Community Affairs. [3:36:36, 3:36:40]: As well as other comparable salary data for similarly situated cities. [3:36:40, 3:36:45]: And so I wanted you to understand how we arrived at pay grade one twenty for the police commander position. [3:36:46, 3:36:50]: Uh this position would be roughly the equivalent of a police major in other organizations. [3:36:50, 3:36:58]: You can see here that the city of McDonough, uh their starting salary for that position is$63,000 with a top salary of$102. [3:36:58, 3:37:11]: If we look at Clayton County, it's 69,000 with a top salary of 109. So for uh various different departments who who have their information publicly available, we're able to pull that data together and come up with an average, what you see here at the bottom. [3:37:12, 3:37:16]: We looked at this average and we aligned it with whatever pay grade was most appropriate. [3:37:16, 3:37:19]: Under the curr the the city's current pay structure. [3:37:20, 3:37:21]: T Trimer. [3:37:22, 3:37:25]: Yeah, yeah. Can you zoom into this? [3:37:25, 3:37:26]: Sorry. [3:37:26, 3:37:29]: I wear glasses. I can't see. Thank you. Is that better? [3:37:30, 3:37:31]: Yes, thank you. [3:37:32, 3:37:43]: So you can see the average salary based on uh the the cities that we're able to find the data for ranges from 72 to 117, looking at pay grade 120 for the city. Um [3:37:43, 3:37:49]: The most appropriate pay grade that this this this average range would fall in is 120, which is 74 to 115. [3:37:50, 3:37:56]: And so that's how we arrived at that grade and looking at the lieutenant commander's position. And again, I will zoom in on this. [3:37:57, 3:38:01]: Um, this would be the equivalent roughly of a captain's position in most organizations. [3:38:02, 3:38:08]: And you can see here looking at Clayton and some other uh agencies, the average salary starts out at about 65 to 102. [3:38:08, 3:38:16]: If you look at pay grade 118 currently for the city, the minimum salary is 65 to 101. And so that's how we came up with that pay grade. [3:38:16, 3:38:19]: for that position based on our current structure. [3:38:19, 3:38:28]: And so what I'm seeking approval for is to hire two lieutenant commander positions, four commander positions, not to exceed thirty-one thousand dollars. It will come from general fund. [3:38:29, 3:38:35]: To be able to assist with the uh implementation of the police department. [3:38:35, 3:38:40]: in fulfilling specific roles and needs that will be required to move the department forward. [3:38:41, 3:38:46]: So I'll stop here and if there are any questions, I'd be glad to take those. I'd see Mr. Blount's hand first. Go ahead, sir. [3:38:57, 3:38:58]: He's having problems unreading. [3:39:03, 3:39:05]: [13145.4, 13150.1]: Thank you for the presentation, Chief Tramor. Uh I actually got two questions. [3:39:10, 3:39:20]: Uh, because it seemed like the attorneys didn't know that if these positions needed to go out to bid. And the reason I'm asking that is because when we ask for [3:39:21, 3:39:31]: A salary increase. Um, this council has always looked at in any increase in any salaries or any salaries that have been presented for any positions. [3:39:31, 3:39:46]: Um I would I I would prefer to see the uh applicant's criteria. Um and and I'm still not sure uh why we wouldn't post these positions because these positions are setting up [3:39:46, 3:39:47]: I'm sorry. [3:39:49, 3:39:50]: Go ahead, sir. [3:39:50, 3:40:00]: We can hear you. We can hear you. Yeah, and I'm and I'm and and I'm still wondering uh why we're not posting these positions that are appointed leadership that would be the leadership. [3:40:00, 3:40:15]: of our police department. So two things. Why aren't we posting them? And prior to increasing these budgets for these salaries on these people, uh, I would like for us to at least look at the applicants that have applied or the applicants that are gonna be presented for the budget. [3:40:17, 3:40:20]: Certainly, sir. I understand your perspective. Um [3:40:21, 3:40:24]: I I don't know and forgive me because I am new to this. [3:40:24, 3:40:32]: Um if it's typical that candidates uh for positions outside of direct or level positions are presented to council for consideration. [3:40:32, 3:40:43]: With Mayor Ford as the acting city manager, I did sit down with him and we had conversation and we discussed the credentials and qualifications of these candidates. So they have been vetted by our current city manager. [3:40:43, 3:40:49]: And it's my understanding, as was stated previously, that uh the director of a division is given considerable latitude. [3:40:49, 3:40:57]: in terms of uh appointments, assuming that they meet the established criteria, which is contained in the job description that I presented to you. [3:40:57, 3:41:06]: I can tell you and you're more than welcome to speak to it. I know Chief Grogan with the Dunwoody Police Department met with you all and consulted with you on the implementation of the police department and he [3:41:07, 3:41:27]: uh hired his initial team. And I know that he told you this because I listened to the budget presentation. This was not something that was put out publicly. He surrounded himself with a core group of people who he trusted, who he knew their competencies, who he had worked with closely, and those individuals were part of his team to implement the department. And I believe that was suggested during the budget retreat. You can also talk [3:41:27, 3:41:30]: to uh Chief Yandura, who started up the Brookhaven Police Department. [3:41:31, 3:41:43]: Um, as well as Chief Gene Wilson, who started the Sandy Springs Police Department, you will find that with the implementation of a new police department, things are a little different in this regard, especially as it relates to the initial personnel who are brought into the organization. [3:41:43, 3:41:56]: Now I did have conversations with Mayor Ford and we have discussed this and we are committed to uh building a diverse police department. So I can ensure you, and Mayor Ford can confirm this, that we are bringing a diverse group of people forward. [3:41:56, 3:41:58]: Um that um um [3:41:58, 3:42:01]: matches are are are [3:42:01, 3:42:21]: um our city structure. And so I want to assure you and be transparent in that endeavor. But these individuals are are obviously well qualified. When we get to a point where we offer them a position, then certainly we would have held our resumes and qualifications. But that would be something we definitely would continue to vet with the city manager. [3:42:21, 3:42:26]: as well as Ms. Wheeler, who would definitely be involved in the onboarding process as we move these candidates forward, hopefully. [3:42:27, 3:42:30]: And I appreciate that, Chief Trayman. Just follow up, Mayor. Um [3:42:31, 3:42:34]: And I've never questioned diversity with you at all. [3:42:35, 3:42:39]: Uh I I've never questioned that. So I appreciate you bringing that forward. [3:42:39, 3:42:42]: Uh but but when you come to this council [3:42:43, 3:42:46]: with your five council members that are gonna actually be voting on this budget. [3:42:47, 3:42:54]: uh outside of the city manager, we have to vote on the budget. We're voting on the budget pertaining to salaries that you're bringing forward to us. [3:42:55, 3:42:56]: And so [3:42:56, 3:43:02]: If we wanted to see the qualifications of this person we're we're pointing uh giving this budget to. [3:43:02, 3:43:10]: You're saying that you you don't think that's appropriate or you're saying that that's that's not really what the position that you're taking that we should? [3:43:15, 3:43:23]: Sir, I'm not saying that like I said, at the onset of this, this is new to me. And so this this does not seem to be based on my experience typical. [3:43:23, 3:43:31]: Um I I I I don't know. Maybe you would know better than I would. Uh however, uh it's my understanding based on my experiences. [3:43:31, 3:43:33]: that uh the chief [3:43:33, 3:43:48]: uh the startup of many organizations has been given the latitude in terms of who to bring on uh as part of their initial team. And I believe, sir, that I was doing my due diligence in that I involved the mayor in that process as the acting city manager in those decisions. [3:43:49, 3:43:57]: And um as it relates to the question about diversity, it wasn't so much for you, Mr. Blount. I saw in the comments on Facebook that there was a question by one of our community members. [3:43:57, 3:44:03]: They wanted to ensure that we were taking that in consideration in terms of our process. And so I wanted to speak to that specifically. [3:44:05, 3:44:24]: So what it amounts to is that he did bring the gentlemen forward. I didn't meet with them. And uh and uh and it's also my my thought process that by the chief bringing up uh being the trees chief that we selected and to uh establish the police department, he had a latitude to get his initial team on on site and to uh bring forward this police department, bring it forward. [3:44:25, 3:44:30]: And so uh and it's actually I have mentioned to him a couple of times as well as publicly. [3:44:30, 3:44:50]: That uh not only highly qualified individuals, what we need, but also a sense of diversity that is needed in the city to have the police force uh, in a sense, uh mirror and look like this community in which they're policing. And the individuals that I met uh actually meet that qualification. And I and I trust in that the chief and his selection of his initial team. [3:44:50, 3:44:52]: team to help start up the program itself. [3:44:52, 3:44:57]: Uh so he has my full full total support in this aspect and and people that he br he's bringing forward. [3:44:57, 3:45:06]: Let me let me say Mayor, just just to say this to you. Uh and I'm talking to the mayor, I'm responding to the mayor, uh, Ms. Alexander, please. [3:45:08, 3:45:12]: Uh when you when we talk about city of Atlanta, we talk about other cities. [3:45:13, 3:45:15]: I don't know anywhere. [3:45:16, 3:45:22]: that a council member in any city that just wants to see the qualifications of a person being hired. [3:45:23, 3:45:35]: that there will be any opposition to that. That's all I'm saying. Whether what whatever's procedural or or or not, just to say, let me see that, let me see who we're hiring. [3:45:36, 3:45:44]: That's that's that's it. It's not about do you want to hire this person? It's just seeing the people that we're hiring. As simple as that. [3:45:45, 3:45:49]: All right, thank you. Uh uh Mr. Washington, you had your hand up, sir. Go ahead, please. [3:45:50, 3:46:02]: Yeah, there just is some concern that we have to take into consideration that there has to be some level of anonymity and confidentiality in this process because these people are currently working. [3:46:03, 3:46:11]: And so if it gets out that they're looking to leave to go someplace else, that can present huge policy for the city, bringing them in and for the department that they're leaving from. [3:46:13, 3:46:13]: Thank you, sir. [3:46:14, 3:46:16]: Uh Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please, sir. [3:46:16, 3:46:21]: Yeah, uh Chi. Now I I'm not concerned about who. [3:46:22, 3:46:25]: Because I will agree that you do have that authority. So that's [3:46:25, 3:46:28]: Trust me, that that's not my concern about who you bring in. [3:46:29, 3:46:33]: Uh my only concern is is about the process and the procedures. [3:46:34, 3:46:34]: Um [3:46:35, 3:46:37]: And that's why I sort of stated about [3:46:37, 3:46:45]: um you know the the the pay class the job description and no things coming forward because [3:46:45, 3:46:53]: That's that's the authority and and responsibility that we have to approve all of those things. And that was my only concern. [3:46:53, 3:46:55]: And I want to make sure that [3:46:55, 3:46:58]: Um the budget the the police department budget. [3:46:59, 3:47:05]: is in the city overall budget. So d those are just my concern, not who [3:47:06, 3:47:26]: Uh, I just want to make sure that we're following all of the the process because this is a new department and these positions are new. And anytime you have new positions, then that is a a course of action that those new positions need to take. And that was that was my only concern. [3:47:25, 3:47:27]: And I just wanted to make sure. [3:47:28, 3:47:43]: that all of these uh uh positions and all of the other procedure will be in followed. So that that's my only concern. And I think you you answered uh some of my concerns um earlier. You answered some of them just a minute ago. And so [3:47:44, 3:47:45]: Um [3:47:45, 3:47:48]: You know, just understanding that the the city [3:47:49, 3:47:51]: The police department for the city of Styrid. [3:47:52, 3:47:53]: It is included. [3:47:54, 3:48:14]: In the overall city's budget, and it is not a separate budget. So I just wanted to make sure that that was being understood by all that this police department budget it fits in uh with the city overall budget. And I just wanted to make sure that we was all clear on that. But going back, I just wanted to make sure that. [3:48:13, 3:48:14]: Yeah. [3:48:14, 3:48:18]: Uh you know, the other item was was was was was approved. [3:48:19, 3:48:19]: Um [3:48:20, 3:48:27]: fact that all of these were new positions, but but it's much clearer now, uh, since you saw the state of that. And I do see [3:48:27, 3:48:28]: Um [3:48:29, 3:48:31]: The job description for those [3:48:31, 3:48:36]: um four position even though it's two position but there are four individuals [3:48:36, 3:48:37]: Is that correct? [3:48:40, 3:48:47]: Yes, sir. That's correct. There are two job descriptions, but four positions. There will be two for each position. And I want to make it certain too that. [3:48:47, 3:48:57]: We have intentionally left uh uh key positions open in our organization so that we have the opportunity to select uh the best and brightest. [3:48:57, 3:49:00]: And we are not um uh [3:49:00, 3:49:06]: These are the only positions that we will be hand selecting for implementation because I can attest to the skills that are needed. [3:49:06, 3:49:11]: and the the the qualifications and the abilities of these individuals that we looking to bring forward. [3:49:11, 3:49:31]: But from this point on, every position that we post for the department would be posted. We would assess all candidates coming forward for these positions, but obviously before we did that, we would request from you all approval of those positions and those job descriptions. And we would work with Ms. Wheeler to make sure that those are posted. [3:49:31, 3:49:36]: and um that we are uh properly vetting all the candidates that are coming forward. [3:49:37, 3:49:57]: Mayor Potem, go ahead, please. Oh my sorry. I'm going, Mr. Thomas. I'm sorry. Well, and and Chief, I also I asked the question about um you know comparable um salaries, and you did mention, and I appreciate you uh going back to the chart. I I looked at that, I did have some concern, but I do want to [3:49:57, 3:50:03]: understand how we have to be competitive. And I think you sort of spoke to that. So I think you are sort of [3:50:04, 3:50:08]: uh answering you know my question as we we started go. [3:50:09, 3:50:11]: And I think you also mentioned the fact that [3:50:12, 3:50:16]: These positions will be advertised. [3:50:17, 3:50:18]: Um is that is correct. [3:50:19, 3:50:22]: That's correct. All future positions will be advertised. [3:50:22, 3:50:24]: We will recruit for all those positions. [3:50:24, 3:50:28]: Now when you when you say our future or you mean an all position? [3:50:30, 3:50:40]: Well these four positions that I'm seeking to hire right now, these will be these will be selected positions. Uh again, uh several of these individuals have experience specifically with startups of new police departments. [3:50:41, 3:50:46]: Uh, so there's certainly value in that. And uh so I'd be looking for this group to be part of the implementation team. [3:50:47, 3:51:07]: uh to assign specific things. And so uh I would definitely have to work with Ms. Wheeler to understand the logistics. We may have to to post it as a matter of formality through human resources, but um we'd certainly be looking to to to make a selection on these. And again, um I think as appropriate once once the candidates have accepted an offer with the city, I think that that it would [3:51:07, 3:51:14]: be appropriate at that point in time to share credentials and to allow uh the those those candidates to be available uh to the council. [3:51:14, 3:51:25]: But to Mr Washington's point, I think that it wouldn't be appropriate at the moment, considering the fact that uh these individuals have not been um uh that that they're still employed and have not been offered a job by the city. [3:51:25, 3:51:27]: No chief, I I I get that part, but [3:51:28, 3:51:31]: I do not think that you can select. [3:51:32, 3:51:35]: uh without advertising. It is your [3:51:35, 3:51:37]: authority to [3:51:38, 3:51:43]: Select once it is advertised, but I don't think you can bypass [3:51:43, 3:51:45]: And I get the attorneys to weigh in. [3:51:45, 3:51:49]: I don't think that you see that this see this this is my concern. [3:51:49, 3:51:51]: I don't think you can bypass. [3:51:52, 3:51:54]: That process of advertising. [3:51:55, 3:52:10]: Uh, but you have the authority to select once that process has taken place. Now that's my understanding, but I guess I would need the attorneys to weigh in on that. But I don't think you can just arbitrarily select without advertising. [3:52:12, 3:52:16]: All right, our attorneys, what kind of questions and concerns you have? How can you help us here? [3:52:21, 3:52:25]: Mr Washington, Mr. Barron, anyone in the suit? I was I was talking I was talking no. [3:52:29, 3:52:31]: I think that we can just take this hello. [3:52:32, 3:52:32]: Can you ever? [3:52:33, 3:52:34]: Yeah, we can hear you, sir. Go ahead, please. Okay. [3:52:36, 3:52:37]: I think what we'll do is [3:52:38, 3:52:39]: Take this information. [3:52:40, 3:52:42]: And talk with Miss Wheeler about it. [3:52:43, 3:52:52]: And we can also talk with the clerk about the whatever resolutions that may have previously passed, which may affect this. I've looked at some of the information that have been provided during this meeting. [3:52:53, 3:52:54]: And then we can just give a read now. [3:52:55, 3:52:58]: And I imagine you have to look deeply into the charter as well, I suppose. [3:52:59, 3:52:59]: Mm-hmm. [3:53:00, 3:53:08]: Okay. So otherwise there there's an answer, a do out that uh you now have to help try to help us with this process there and make sure we're we're doing the right thing. [3:53:08, 3:53:08]: Mm-hmm. [3:53:09, 3:53:10]: All right, thank you. [3:53:10, 3:53:18]: Uh okay Mr. Thomas. Yes, right. Go ahead, sir. I I just want the chief to to be clear on my position. [3:53:19, 3:53:23]: Uh you have the authority to select. [3:53:24, 3:53:28]: Once it is advertised. If you have a thousand applications. [3:53:29, 3:53:31]: You have the authority to select. [3:53:32, 3:53:34]: That that's the only point I'm trying to get over that. [3:53:35, 3:53:38]: I I'm I'm I'm almost one hundred percent sure. [3:53:38, 3:53:41]: that it has to be advertised. Deposition has to be advertised. [3:53:42, 3:53:46]: And that that's my only only point. And you don't want to go down that road. [3:53:47, 3:53:48]: And have to come back and say [3:53:49, 3:53:51]: It wasn't advertised. I I don't think you want to do that. [3:53:52, 3:54:00]: I I can just tell you from experience from speaking with other chiefs who've been part of the startup. Um I don't think that process has been followed, but understanding too. [3:54:00, 3:54:08]: That the HR processes may be different city to city. So I certainly respect that and concede to the fact that this may be the case with the city. And we certainly want to make sure whatever we're doing. [3:54:09, 3:54:14]: is lawful and it's appropriate. And so I I can assure you that whatever avenue we have to take, we will take. [3:54:15, 3:54:17]: Well that that threshold for startup. [3:54:18, 3:54:21]: That may be the difference. I I I don't know. [3:54:21, 3:54:23]: Uh with startup and [3:54:24, 3:54:25]: Um [3:54:25, 3:54:37]: uh selecting others with an established police department. So I I I don't know that. So anyway, Mayor I'm going to yield and hopefully the attorneys can can get that, but be sure that you have the authority to select. [3:54:38, 3:54:40]: Miraport Tem, go ahead, please. [3:54:40, 3:54:46]: Yeah, uh thank you. I appreciate those comments and uh to get the clarification, Councilman. Um [3:54:47, 3:55:00]: What it really comes down to is in the end, um we we want the chief to select uh the persons uh that he desired deemed necessary to get the department off to a good start. [3:55:01, 3:55:04]: following the correct processes. So I appreciate [3:55:04, 3:55:06]: Uh Councilman Thomas making sure that [3:55:06, 3:55:09]: We're going down the right processes. [3:55:09, 3:55:20]: Uh uh and so uh that uh is due diligence. The attorneys are going to make sure that they look to make sure that we're going down the right road. But in i in either event. [3:55:20, 3:55:22]: I certainly want to be very supportive. [3:55:22, 3:55:25]: I've been very consistent from the very beginning that [3:55:26, 3:55:27]: The chief [3:55:27, 3:55:30]: Whomever we hired, even before we hired Mr. Tramer. [3:55:30, 3:55:33]: На вас are public safety екс. [3:55:33, 3:55:37]: And we must lean on the chief in order to bring forward. [3:55:37, 3:55:40]: The individuals necessary. [3:55:40, 3:55:43]: To put the s police department together successfully. [3:55:43, 3:55:50]: I certainly don't want it on my head or on my decision because lives are at stake. [3:55:51, 3:55:52]: When lives are at stake. [3:55:53, 3:55:55]: We want to turn to the people who understand. [3:55:56, 3:56:01]: this area and have an expertise. As Councilman Thomas said, we want an HR person. [3:56:01, 3:56:13]: that has some experience uh in public safety because the the the margin for error is zero because you make the wrong decision and somebody dies. So [3:56:13, 3:56:14]: In that aspect [3:56:14, 3:56:16]: I want the person with the most [3:56:17, 3:56:23]: With all the credentials and I said that from the very beginning, whomever we hire as the chief. [3:56:23, 3:56:25]: That person should come in. [3:56:25, 3:56:26]: Set up the department. [3:56:27, 3:56:30]: You know, a comment was made earlier that the council has to prove [3:56:30, 3:56:31]: The org chart. [3:56:32, 3:56:33]: Technically that's true. [3:56:34, 3:56:38]: But I don't think the council should be moving around individuals on the public safety. [3:56:39, 3:56:39]: Uh [3:56:40, 3:56:40]: Or chart. [3:56:41, 3:56:52]: When we have a professional who's the chief who says, this is the way it's supposed to be done by public safety standards. It would be irresponsible of us to shake that up. [3:56:52, 3:56:55]: Because we didn't like what it looked like. [3:56:55, 3:56:58]: When the professional whom we hired and entrusted. [3:56:58, 3:57:08]: with developing a department says this is the art chart that's necessary. As Mr. Travers Chief Chambers said, he even consulted with other professionals. [3:57:09, 3:57:11]: to look at and make the adjustments to it. [3:57:12, 3:57:14]: Whom have we consulted with? [3:57:15, 3:57:24]: I don't think we want to make those decisions amongst ourselves. This comment is particularly to the art chart. I'm not going to touch the art chart. [3:57:24, 3:57:27]: Whatever chart the teeth brings forward. [3:57:27, 3:57:32]: Okay, it fits into the budgetary constraints that we put forward. [3:57:32, 3:57:36]: It needs to move forward without interference from this council. [3:57:36, 3:57:40]: Because the last thing I won't say is somebody lost their life. [3:57:40, 3:57:42]: Or the city is less safe. [3:57:43, 3:57:44]: Because the council [3:57:44, 3:57:51]: was so micromanaging or interfering with the setup of the police department, it compromised public safety. [3:57:51, 3:57:54]: We don't want to find ourselves in that position. [3:57:54, 3:57:58]: And as councilman Thomas has said, we want to make sure from the onset. [3:57:58, 3:58:03]: that we go through the right processes, whether that's advertising. [3:58:03, 3:58:06]: And then the chief actually selected the individual. [3:58:06, 3:58:08]: But I think it's very important. [3:58:08, 3:58:11]: in any organization that you form. [3:58:11, 3:58:14]: You those first initial individuals that you hire. [3:58:15, 3:58:17]: They have to fit into the culture. [3:58:17, 3:58:30]: They're helping you create the culture of the individuals that you bring in. If you select a bad apple in the core, before you get started, it just it replicates in the rest of the department. [3:58:30, 3:58:32]: But these individuals are trusted to him. [3:58:33, 3:58:36]: Because he's had experience with them. [3:58:36, 3:58:38]: And understands and they understand. [3:58:38, 3:58:40]: He understands that [3:58:40, 3:58:43]: The mission of this city and the statement oh that we're trying to make. [3:58:44, 3:58:53]: And I would trust that he would profine those individuals out there who would do so. But again, down the line, any subsequent individuals. [3:58:53, 3:58:55]: That will be chosen. [3:58:55, 3:59:00]: will go through the appropriate process, whether that's advertising again and then being selected, but [3:59:01, 3:59:03]: I don't want us to get in a position where we're [3:59:03, 3:59:06]: doing anything to select public safety officials. [3:59:07, 3:59:10]: And I and I want us to tread lightly down that down that road. [3:59:12, 3:59:19]: Are any other questions on the council before we ask uh or is there a motion to accept this uh this proposal on these job descriptions? [3:59:20, 3:59:21]: No other comments, I've got a motion. [3:59:23, 3:59:23]: I have a motion. [3:59:27, 3:59:28]: Is there a motion? [3:59:30, 3:59:32]: I'll make a motion to um [3:59:32, 3:59:34]: Uh uh w well I'll make a motion. [3:59:34, 3:59:36]: To approve the request. [3:59:37, 3:59:42]: Based upon what Councilman Thomas suggested with the city attorneys. [3:59:42, 3:59:46]: That they determine what's the appropriate process, which is [3:59:46, 3:59:47]: They [3:59:47, 3:59:50]: Авдев аверзми із несери. [3:59:51, 3:59:52]: We will do the advertising. [3:59:52, 3:59:54]: And then the selection will be made. [3:59:55, 4:00:01]: that I think that would be the way to uh to approach to to approach this since this issue [4:00:01, 4:00:03]: has been raised since you asked for a motion. [4:00:04, 4:00:05]: I think that would be most [4:00:05, 4:00:10]: appropriate to say to put that into motion. Is that what you were stating, councilman? [4:00:11, 4:00:13]: Uh I would say so. [4:00:13, 4:00:15]: And I I know the attorneys [4:00:16, 4:00:18]: Say they had to to to look into that, but [4:00:19, 4:00:24]: I d I do believe that it has to be advertised one hundred percent sure. [4:00:24, 4:00:29]: Uh and hopefully um uh Mr. Bearer, uh uh Mr. Washington. [4:00:30, 4:00:39]: that you can get this information back to us as soon as possible because without a doubt, I am in favor of the Stockbridge Police Department. [4:00:39, 4:00:41]: Wholeheartedly. [4:00:41, 4:00:43]: Uh uh uh you know without a doubt. [4:00:44, 4:01:04]: I just want to make sure that we're just doing it right. And I'm going to re-emphasize this again, Chief. You have the authority to select your own people. You have the authority to set up the um the art chalk the way you see it. So I'm in favor of all of that. But I'm just trying to make sure that we [4:01:04, 4:01:23]: We just do it right. So once we roll this out, we don't have to look back, we don't have to second guess, and we don't have to answer questions about some misappropriation and things of that nature. But uh but I am for the Stockbridge Police Department 100%. [4:01:25, 4:01:29]: All right, the motion is made. We'll have to have it read back, but is there a second to the motion? [4:01:31, 4:01:34]: I second the motion. Mr. Thomas seconds that motion now. [4:01:35, 4:01:35]: Miss Holiday. [4:01:36, 4:01:39]: I'm gonna ask you to repeat it to make sure we got it right. [4:01:39, 4:01:42]: Or would we have it that we're understand what we're voting on? [4:01:43, 4:01:47]: Yes, Mayor, I actually have a question as far as what is [4:01:48, 4:01:50]: Item number sixteen. [4:01:50, 4:01:56]: is to include the police department job descriptions, organizational chart, and pan classification. [4:01:56, 4:01:59]: However, m uh chief tramer [4:01:59, 4:02:01]: Reference two positions. [4:02:01, 4:02:02]: So it's [4:02:03, 4:02:04]: I need to know what. [4:02:06, 4:02:13]: documents are going to be attached. The full j uh the full or org chart, all of the job description. I mean all of the um [4:02:13, 4:02:14]: Hey Class. [4:02:15, 4:02:19]: Because there were only two job descriptions. So I just need to understand. [4:02:23, 4:02:25]: Uh Madam Clerk, it would be um [4:02:25, 4:02:31]: Two job descriptions is correct. That would be four positions. There would be two for each of the two job descriptions. [4:02:32, 4:02:32]: Okay. [4:02:33, 4:02:39]: All right, so based on that, then um Mayor Proteir Alexander made a motion to approve based on the request. [4:02:40, 4:02:41]: By councilman. [4:02:41, 4:02:42]: Thomas [4:02:43, 4:02:47]: Contingent upon the attorney's response. [4:02:47, 4:02:50]: Regarding the advertising of the position. [4:02:52, 4:02:55]: All right. Is everybody clear on that? And is everybody in agreement? [4:02:56, 4:02:58]: I was gonna say, Mayor Portano, is that your motion? [4:02:58, 4:02:59]: Yes, that's it. [4:03:00, 4:03:01]: Okay, Mr. Thomas, you had a question. [4:03:02, 4:03:03]: Well [4:03:03, 4:03:04]: Madam Clerk. [4:03:04, 4:03:09]: sort of raise an issue that I'm not sure I I know the answer to. [4:03:10, 4:03:13]: Uh so if it's appropriate for me to ask the clerk a question. [4:03:13, 4:03:14]: Yeah, so go ahead. [4:03:15, 4:03:15]: Um [4:03:16, 4:03:20]: Even though there are two positions [4:03:20, 4:03:22]: That are coming forward. [4:03:23, 4:03:25]: And the organization a chart is [4:03:26, 4:03:29]: Indication of the full [4:03:29, 4:03:30]: Department [4:03:30, 4:03:32]: So are we then are we [4:03:33, 4:03:40]: And I don't want to put you on the spot, Madam Clerk, but are we correct? And I know you have this uh institutional knowledge. [4:03:41, 4:03:44]: So is it are we correct then that we can approve? [4:03:44, 4:03:47]: The overall organization chart, even though [4:03:48, 4:03:49]: We are only hiring [4:03:50, 4:03:51]: Um [4:03:51, 4:03:53]: Four people in in two classifications. [4:03:56, 4:03:57]: Um [4:03:57, 4:04:04]: Councilman Thomas, I would say yes to that, but in this um the job descriptions are not attached. [4:04:04, 4:04:07]: But your budget requires. [4:04:07, 4:04:10]: Your organizational chart, your job descriptions. [4:04:11, 4:04:13]: And your pay in class be attached. [4:04:14, 4:04:18]: So before you adopt your budget on uh December thirteenth. [4:04:18, 4:04:20]: That in my opinion. [4:04:20, 4:04:23]: And HR is on the line and your treasurer's on the line. [4:04:24, 4:04:28]: needs to be attached before you adopt a fiscal 2022 budget. [4:04:30, 4:04:34]: So what they and if we can get confirmation from your HR and treasurer. [4:04:34, 4:04:35]: It is [4:04:36, 4:04:38]: What's in your ordinance for your budget adoption? [4:04:39, 4:04:51]: Well, Mayor, with that being said, and Mr. Tramor and the attorneys, let's let's let's try to make sure that all of that is in place before we adopt the overall seat of Stock Bridge 2022 budget. [4:04:51, 4:05:03]: Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. It will be done. Absolutely. All right. Thank you. So Chief, so I just in closing, Chief, do you have any issues or concern and understand how we have to do this? [4:05:04, 4:05:06]: No, sir, obviously. I mean [4:05:06, 4:05:18]: I I'm I'm I'm part of law enforcement. So we want to make sure that we do it lawfully. Right. So I'm listening I'm I'm all I'm all about doing things the right way. I'm I'm just I'm operating based on my prior knowledge. [4:05:18, 4:05:25]: So if there are processes that we need to go through, we're certainly going to adhere to those to make sure that we are in compliance. And I think Mr. Washington had a [4:05:25, 4:05:28]: Yeah, he's got his hand. Mr. Washington, go ahead, sir. [4:05:28, 4:05:31]: I just want to make sure we're clear on the timelines because if they're [4:05:32, 4:05:34]: Am I understanding this correctly that [4:05:34, 4:05:40]: We want to vote on the budget and approve the budget first before we advertise for these positions or [4:05:40, 4:05:44]: If we come back and say this is the process that has to be followed. [4:05:44, 4:05:46]: Can we advertise for those positions? [4:05:49, 4:06:09]: Well, what it is is that what I I would say what it is is that we have to we'll first of all we have to approve the budget by the by the third reading. But I would think you that if once you do your due diligence and research, I would imagine if if it indicates that uh well, if if it indicates that we have to advertise these positions, these four positions under these two job descriptions. [4:06:09, 4:06:29]: We'll have to do that right away. And I would imagine then that the rest of the uh job descriptions would have to be presented and approved prior to the final adoption of the budget, and those will be advertised after the fact because I think what Mr. Tramer needs, what Chief needs is four individuals initially to start everything. [4:06:29, 4:06:36]: thing up and everything else start falling after that is what I my simple assumption at this point. And okay, the Vanessa Holliday has her hand up. Go ahead, ma'am. [4:06:38, 4:06:39]: You've made it in. [4:06:40, 4:06:44]: Okay, one other thing that was omitted from the motion was the fact that the [4:06:45, 4:06:48]: Um, positions are going to require a budget amendment. [4:06:49, 4:06:54]: And fund balance is the um funding source. So that needs to be included as well. [4:06:55, 4:06:56]: So [4:06:57, 4:07:03]: It okay, thank you, Vanessa. Jesus Okay, Miss Miss uh Gan, go ahead please. [4:07:03, 4:07:18]: Mayor, this is very irresponsible of us. We are jumping the gun once again, just to please people. The bottom line is it wasn't done right. We don't have a job description. We're talking about not to exceed 31,000. [4:07:19, 4:07:25]: It could easily be done. Bring it back to the next meeting and do it right. I don't like. [4:07:25, 4:07:32]: Voting on these contingencies, what if we don't approve the job description? What if we don't approve certain things? This is wrong. [4:07:33, 4:07:33]: I mean [4:07:34, 4:07:41]: It would be incompetent of me to vote on something with all these contingencies in place. [4:07:42, 4:08:02]: Every single contingency that we possibly could have. What is the rush on getting it done right the first time? Make sure you bring the job description. You let us know you're saying not to feed 31,000. We have two months left. This is November and December. You're telling me that we're gonna be able to spend$31,000 for. [4:08:02, 4:08:13]: Two to four people. Not only that, but the last meeting we had and the last town hall, they said 43, then what the 50 now, if I look at the chart, it's 57 employees. [4:08:14, 4:08:20]: This is wrong. We should not be voting on this right now at this time. It needs to be done right. [4:08:21, 4:08:26]: And anyone who votes for it just to say, oh, we're gonna vote the way the chief wants us to vote. [4:08:27, 4:08:33]: You're not voting the way the HR wants us to vote. You're not voting the way the engineer wants us to vote. [4:08:33, 4:08:41]: We're not experts on any of these matters. We need to rely on the experts, but we also need for them to do it right. So bring in the job description. [4:08:42, 4:08:45]: And do what you're supposed to do before I vote on something. Period. [4:08:47, 4:09:01]: All right. Well, there's still a motion on the floor has been seconded anyway in this aspect. Mr. Washington, your hand's still up, or you still have something to say or you just didn't take it down, sir. No, I'll take it down on that. Okay. All right. All right. Now motion's been made. It's been seconded. Any further discussion? [4:09:02, 4:09:11]: All right. Um uh um Mayor Pro Tem, you have to this vote, vote. Well I was about to okay. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [4:09:13, 4:09:16]: All favor, I got uh two in favor, all opposed. [4:09:16, 4:09:17]: Opposed. [4:09:18, 4:09:21]: Uh Mr. Blount, um Mr. Bob Miss Barber? [4:09:22, 4:09:23]: I have a question. [4:09:25, 4:09:27]: Okay. What's your question? [4:09:28, 4:09:43]: Um madam clerk mentioned about a budget amendment. Has that included in this motion? It is not. It is not. See, that's why I had her read the motion. Motion made it's been seconded. That's why I had to read the motion. Um [4:09:43, 4:09:50]: Let's do this again. Will I add can I ask Mayor Pro Tem Alexander? Yeah, we can we can add the budget amendment to it. [4:09:51, 4:09:52]: Okay. [4:09:52, 4:09:58]: Would you amend and that's it? Yes, amend the motion to add the budget uh amendment to it. [4:09:58, 4:09:59]: I see okay. [4:10:01, 4:10:02]: All right, uh so [4:10:03, 4:10:22]: Okay, Miss Holliday, now she's writing it down. So let's make sure we understand it's what they just do. Now let's face it, no reason we got it right here. I'm sorry. I mean you all brought this up, so let's go back and let it stop. I'm sorry, you brought this up. All right. So what do you have the master for the reminder? Okay, so what I have is this motion is to approve. [4:10:23, 4:10:25]: The request [4:10:26, 4:10:26]: Yeah. [4:10:28, 4:10:30]: For the two positions. [4:10:31, 4:10:35]: For the police department, those job descriptions are included. [4:10:36, 4:10:39]: The paying classification is included. [4:10:40, 4:10:44]: And this is based on a contingency upon the attorney. [4:10:44, 4:10:51]: Who will come back and and uh state whether or not the positions need to be advertised. But it is for two positions. [4:10:52, 4:10:55]: Two job descriptions, four positions. [4:10:56, 4:11:02]: And the fund balance, I don't know where that I know it was a thirty-one thousand dollar, but there's a fund balance. [4:11:02, 4:11:11]: uh amount for the budget amendment to cover the thirst thirty one thousand to the fund for yes thirty one I can uh some amount [4:11:11, 4:11:31]: 31,000 is what the uh chief originally made, said stated, and I believe that's what Mayor Pro Tem is indicating as well. And there was an additional amendment just now also prior to that, sir. Mr. Mayor Pro Tem, you mentioned, I think from the Councilman Barbers one is something you do add in. Is that in that? No, the 310 is a budget amendment. [4:11:33, 4:11:37]: That was to include the budget amendment, Mayor. Right, and I did. From fund balance. [4:11:37, 4:11:38]: Okay. All right. All right. [4:11:39, 4:11:41]: So the motion has been made. [4:11:41, 4:11:44]: By Mayor Pro Tem, it's been seconded by Councilman Thomas. Is that correct? [4:11:45, 4:11:48]: Yes. All right. All all in favor of motion, please entertain. [4:11:49, 4:11:55]: Have we have we given a a price on the overall uh have we given a number for the overall budget for the four positions? [4:11:56, 4:12:04]: For the for the time frame for this fiscal for the rest of this fiscal year is thirty one thousand dollars once they get on site. It's what th thirty one thousand dollars. [4:12:06, 4:12:14]: For the month of December. These guys, these gentlemen, if they're they're hired, thirty-one thousand dollars comes in between now and the end of the year, primary in this month of December. [4:12:15, 4:12:17]: Is what is what is what I understand. [4:12:18, 4:12:22]: Is that not correct, Chief? Uh since you brought that forward, is that not a correct statement? [4:12:22, 4:12:23]: Not true. [4:12:24, 4:12:33]: Yes, that would be correct. That would that would cover uh and that's why the proposal was up to thirty one thousand dollars. It would cover the salaries through the uh the remainder of this year for the month of December. [4:12:35, 4:12:36]: Okay. [4:12:37, 4:12:37]: All right. [4:12:38, 4:12:39]: All right. [4:12:40, 4:12:42]: We had a motion. We had a second. [4:12:42, 4:12:44]: All in favor of motion, please indicate. [4:12:45, 4:12:47]: One, two, three, all pose. [4:12:49, 4:12:53]: Definitely oppose this mayor. And the reason I oppose it is because [4:12:53, 4:12:57]: There is a we don't have anything laid out. [4:12:57, 4:13:06]: No job description, no anything. Are you talking about thirty one thousand dollars not to exceed thirty one thousand dollars for 30 days, 60 days? [4:13:06, 4:13:07]: I have a problem with that. [4:13:07, 4:13:10]: All right. The motion passed three to two. [4:13:10, 4:13:20]: Councilman Barber, we're gonna move on. Motion passed three to two. All right. I don't like when misinformation is put out there. Well two to five prescriptions were provided to us. [4:13:20, 4:13:21]: Yes. [4:13:22, 4:13:23]: Okay, they were provided. Yes, they were. [4:13:24, 4:13:24]: Okay. [4:13:25, 4:13:34]: Motion passes three to two. Let's move on. Now let's go to council consideration to approve the purchase of the police department vehicles. Mr. Tramer, please. Chief Tramer. Tremor, please. [4:13:41, 4:13:45]: Hopefully all can see my screen here. Yes, so this. [4:13:45, 4:13:46]: This uh [4:13:46, 4:13:49]: Council should have uh requests. [4:13:49, 4:13:56]: for uh two million three hundred and sixty doll uh two million three hundred sixty thousand and eighty five dollars. [4:13:56, 4:14:01]: uh for the acquisition of uh sixty police vehicles for the startup of the department. [4:14:01, 4:14:03]: Um this this um [4:14:04, 4:14:14]: Presentation right here, or this slide rather, uh represents those vehicles, a breakdown of what those vehicles are, a breakdown of the cost of those vehicles, the total cost. [4:14:14, 4:14:21]: And then uh you have the retail uh price and then the government state contract pricing. So you can see that we're receiving these vehicles below. [4:14:22, 4:14:24]: uh the state contract pricing. [4:14:24, 4:14:44]: Um Mr. Blount asked earlier about whether or not these vehicles included equipment. They do not. That will be a separate uh proposal that I will present before council for the upfitting of those vehicles. But I just wanted to lay that out since it was a question that it will roughly cost us uh somewhere in the bulk. [4:14:44, 4:14:47]: ballpark of about six hundred and eighty thousand dollars. [4:14:47, 4:14:53]: for the upfitting of those vehicles. So the total cost of the vehicles with equipment would be just slightly over three million dollars. [4:14:54, 4:14:59]: Um we're requesting to purchase those vehicles under an emergency uh purchase exception. [4:14:59, 4:15:13]: And the reason for that is everybody knows there is a supply shortage of police vehicles. And there are only a few vehicle dealers that deal in sufficient quantities such that they have these vehicles readily available. [4:15:13, 4:15:19]: Uh Brandon Ford currently has 34 of the needed vehicles that will be coming in at the end of this month. [4:15:19, 4:15:23]: Uh, which would allow us sufficient time to be able to order the needed equipment. [4:15:23, 4:15:27]: And to upfit those vehicles for operation on July one. [4:15:27, 4:15:31]: And the remaining vehicles uh will be in around January. [4:15:32, 4:15:44]: Uh we have not been able to locate any other dealership who's able to provide vehicles within a time frame that can guarantee that we will have those vehicles in sufficient time to be able to upfit them and have them ready for patrol. [4:15:44, 4:16:01]: for July one. And I don't know if our attorneys need to chime in on the emergency purchase. I was working with uh with Mr. Washington and Mr. Berry uh regarding that and supplied them with supplemental documentation, which I believe they've also provided to council. [4:16:01, 4:16:06]: So what I'll do is just pause here for a moment to allow uh them to chime in and any input. [4:16:07, 4:16:08]: From you mayor or council. [4:16:10, 4:16:15]: Chief, this is Jeremy. Uh yeah, I I spoke to the Chief multiple times over the weekend. [4:16:15, 4:16:19]: And put this in the resolution, but as the chief said, just given [4:16:20, 4:16:26]: How difficult it is to buy a car in general right now of any type, much less buying 50 police cruisers. [4:16:27, 4:16:30]: We believe that the the circumstances. [4:16:30, 4:16:34]: Um, are such that this would meet the definition of an emergency. [4:16:34, 4:16:54]: Um again, you know, we believe it's justified. Even after these vehicles are purchased, it'll take about four months to make all the you know the additions to the vehicles to have them service ready so that the force can begin by July 1st. Uh, you know, it it's 1015 at night, it's late, but I'm happy to you know sort of talk through this as much as. [4:16:54, 4:17:00]: everyone needs and or wants, but we believe the emergency circumstances are justified in this instance. [4:17:03, 4:17:05]: You know questions uh for the chief. [4:17:06, 4:17:07]: Or for our attorneys. [4:17:07, 4:17:15]: And I and I would like to say, if I could, Mayor, that we are requesting uh to utilize ARPA funding for the initial acquisition of these vehicles. [4:17:16, 4:17:18]: Thank you, sir. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [4:17:19, 4:17:26]: Yeah, thank you, Mayor. Um Chief, the uh when you outfit these vehicles to be ready, um [4:17:27, 4:17:32]: I know that there's a chip that this Henry County's been uh waiting on for [4:17:32, 4:17:40]: Quite a while, uh, over a year. Are we gonna be able to outfit our whi whi whatever that chip is that goes in the uh cruisers? [4:17:42, 4:17:50]: Yes, sir. The vehicles, the vehicles, uh, Councilman Blount that we're looking to receive, the chip shortage relates to the vehicle specifically. So the the the chips. [4:17:50, 4:17:54]: are a uh vehicle shortage item and uh there are um [4:17:55, 4:18:04]: delays in acquiring vehicles because of those chips, but the ones that we will be acquiring already have those included. So there will be no delays as it relates to that for us. [4:18:04, 4:18:13]: Now with now with the uh vehicles because uh how we we're getting them, the the the these vehicles, um I'm just trying to understand what is [4:18:15, 4:18:27]: What is the process here? Because I'm I'm new to this also. When we go get these fitted, uh we did we bid out the vehicles or are we bidding out the fittings when we get them fitted? Or how how's that how does that work? [4:18:29, 4:18:42]: Yeah, so we will we will uh and we have we have some lead time. We have it's not an emergency such uh for the equipment. So we will bid out the equipment, ensure we're getting the best price uh on the vehicle and um uh to include upfitting. [4:18:42, 4:18:50]: Uh that'll probably be one of the next items that we bring before council because uh there is a just a metal supply shortage in in general. [4:18:50, 4:18:58]: And um uh talking to various vendors, there's a lead time of four to twelve weeks on the acquisition of equipment once a purchase order's been cut. [4:18:59, 4:19:08]: So we definitely want to get ahead of that. We would anticipate that if we're able to do that, that we would um I guess at the latest have the equipment for the vehicles in by February. [4:19:08, 4:19:16]: And uh that would give us from February until July one uh the needed amount of time, roughly four months, to be able to upfit those vehicles with that equipment. [4:19:18, 4:19:19]: Thank you. [4:19:20, 4:19:22]: If any other questions for [4:19:23, 4:19:24]: The chief here. [4:19:24, 4:19:24]: Anybody? [4:19:27, 4:19:29]: But yes, yeah, cheese. [4:19:29, 4:19:38]: You know, I I really want to thank you, Chief, because you came to this job and you have hit the ground running. [4:19:38, 4:19:44]: And you you you obviously have done your due diligence and prepared [4:19:44, 4:19:47]: Pre arriving to the city. [4:19:47, 4:19:50]: to come because you came with the budget. [4:19:51, 4:20:05]: You came with the breakdown, you came with the analysis, you came and checked off every box that this council has put before you in terms of what's necessary for this department. [4:20:05, 4:20:17]: And with the labor crunch that we have here in America, where everybody's looking for workers, you got people knocking down your door to come to Stockbridge. [4:20:17, 4:20:23]: This is this is simply amazing to me that you have that this is where we are. [4:20:23, 4:20:25]: And we're purchasing these vehicles. [4:20:26, 4:20:27]: On state contract [4:20:28, 4:20:31]: Be pre uh they've been vent there, you know, pre vented. [4:20:31, 4:20:44]: in terms of the supplier and we know that we're receiving quality vehicles uh at a good price and in the midst like mr Blount just said Henry Kelly's been waiting on vehicles [4:20:45, 4:20:46]: Forever. [4:20:46, 4:20:49]: And yet you've been able to through your network. [4:20:49, 4:20:50]: To locate [4:20:51, 4:20:53]: All the vehicles that we need. [4:20:54, 4:21:00]: to start our police department. That's simply amazing. I mean it simply is to me. [4:21:00, 4:21:09]: And it it is just just more justification that we did the right thing uh in terms of uh of bringing you aboard because you have hit the ground running. [4:21:09, 4:21:22]: and you know, been here for such a short time, yet you followed through on every step. And one thing that this council does, and Councilman and and and Councilman Thomas and Councilwoman Barber hit on it earlier. [4:21:22, 4:21:25]: We deal with vendors and we deal with [4:21:25, 4:21:42]: suppliers every day that we can't get a report from. But you before us every time we come around, every time you come before us, you come before us with a update and you come before us with the knowledge in order to form this police department that [4:21:43, 4:21:44]: We don't have [4:21:44, 4:21:45]: But again. [4:21:45, 4:21:48]: This right here in uh being able to do what you do. [4:21:49, 4:21:55]: uh and bring this to us right now because and the one thing that i love seeing on here is that you have [4:21:56, 4:22:04]: For hybrid interceptor. And and and that's something that I've been trying to push forward. And a lot of us have been on the council that we have. [4:22:04, 4:22:08]: And then we take those first initial steps toward um [4:22:08, 4:22:17]: green energy vehicles for the city. And there's 12 of those hybrid vehicles. Could could you talk about those just a little bit on the hybrid vehicles? [4:22:20, 4:22:25]: Yes, you know, we we definitely want to make sure that uh we um [4:22:26, 4:22:37]: uh have an element of our vehicles that are green vehicles and we intentionally uh procured twenty percent of our fleet uh such that it's uh green vehicles. And what this will do is is it'll obviously save us um [4:22:37, 4:22:41]: uh in terms of fuel costs on these vehicles but um [4:22:41, 4:22:47]: uh you know even the fuel cost on the eco boost is is uh is is negligible and so all these vehicles [4:22:48, 4:22:53]: um uh for the most part get excellent gas mileage and and it will result in [4:22:53, 4:22:58]: Um not just uh cash savings but but uh obviously uh positive [4:22:58, 4:23:08]: uh things for the city in terms of uh just being being uh green and uh energy efficient in uh the utilization of our our our vehicles here for the city. [4:23:10, 4:23:20]: Okay. If nobody else has a question, I'll make the motion if that um Well Miss Barber hold stand by. Miss Barber has a question or comment of some type. Go ahead, please. [4:23:20, 4:23:31]: I have a series of questions for Chief Tramer. Chief Tramer, can you go back to that slide that shows your staffing needs? [4:23:32, 4:23:33]: Oh what she desired. [4:23:33, 4:23:36]: I know that it mentioned forty nine. [4:23:36, 4:23:38]: Okay, so that has changed. [4:23:38, 4:23:41]: Initially it was forty nine officers. [4:23:41, 4:23:42]: Um [4:23:43, 4:23:43]: That is [4:23:44, 4:23:52]: Right. So which one of these scenarios So So what we're what we're looking at and what I had mentioned earlier, and I'm sorry uh if I wasn't clear on that, is that [4:23:53, 4:24:00]: When we came up with this and I presented it to you all, what I wanted to do also was vetted through some other police experts. And we had some conversation and furthermore. [4:24:00, 4:24:07]: Uh mayors aware I've been meeting with uh local area chiefs and and uh folks in Henry County to just truly understand how we operate. [4:24:08, 4:24:15]: And so when I came up with this based on on uh what I believed to be needs, uh we determined that there were certain positions, especially [4:24:15, 4:24:18]: On the civilian side, that we did not need to stand. [4:24:18, 4:24:23]: And so we reduced those uh some of those civilian count positions. [4:24:23, 4:24:28]: And then also looked at uh the numbers based on workload analysis for investigators. [4:24:28, 4:24:35]: And really what we want to accomplish with that geographic model of policing that I talked about in the town hall. And so we made some modifications. [4:24:35, 4:24:47]: So uh the current proposal is what I just presented to you. It's 51 officers and six civilian employees. And you can see here that we're one less employee than what we were when we initially made this proposal to the council. [4:24:47, 4:24:52]: So we'd be looking at fifty-one uh sworn positions and six civilian positions. [4:24:52, 4:25:03]: Uh so we have fifty-one officers and then understand that the crime scene investigators will need a vehicle as well. That's a specialized function for the department. They have specialized equipment for processing those crime scenes. [4:25:03, 4:25:07]: Uh therefore the needs for the city will be fifty three vehicles. [4:25:07, 4:25:18]: And we need roughly about 10% extra so that if a vehicle gets crashed or it goes down or something along those lines that we're able to continue operations, which is why we've requested 60 vehicles. [4:25:19, 4:25:24]: Uh there's a need for 53, but we've requested 60 vehicles to make sure that we've accounted for. [4:25:24, 4:25:27]: Um just that that uh [4:25:27, 4:25:27]: Um [4:25:28, 4:25:35]: chance that the vehicles get wrecked or again those vehicles become uh inoperable for some reason and we can continue to maintain operation. [4:25:37, 4:25:40]: Okay, thank you for explaining that. [4:25:41, 4:25:43]: Couple of more questions. [4:25:45, 4:25:45]: So [4:25:47, 4:25:50]: You and I talked about this take home. [4:25:50, 4:25:51]: Policy. [4:25:51, 4:25:52]: For these vehicles. [4:25:54, 4:25:56]: And we talked about this offline, but I want you to [4:25:57, 4:25:59]: Please explain it publicly. [4:25:59, 4:26:00]: Um why? [4:26:01, 4:26:01]: Іч [4:26:02, 4:26:03]: Individual [4:26:03, 4:26:06]: will have their own vehicle and they will take'em home. [4:26:07, 4:26:08]: Well we'll [4:26:08, 4:26:13]: First and foremost what I wanna say is that you will find and I I'm sorry I don't have the data available, but [4:26:13, 4:26:17]: feel free to ask around, you know, other people that you know in the profession. [4:26:17, 4:26:37]: That when you have a take-home vehicle, you extend the life on that vehicle. The officers take better care of them, they take ownership of it, and you extend the life, and we don't end up having to purchase those vehicles as frequently. When you are in our line of work, we call it hot seating a vehicle, which means that that's vehicle's in operation 24/7. Those vehicles have less shelf life, they're likely to go down. [4:26:37, 4:26:48]: down a lot easier. And then we end up uh essentially where we're at right now because, you know, in three, four years, we're having to replace those vehicles because they're operating 24-7. [4:26:49, 4:26:58]: So um it really from a from a from a just a a cost standpoint, we extend the longevity with with the take-home vehicle program. [4:26:58, 4:27:16]: The other thing is it's an attractive recruitment tool. It's something that will attract people to our department and it's something that we need to remain competitive because every other agency in Henry County has a take-home vehicle program. And most agencies in the Metro Atlanta area have a take-home vehicle program. The only exceptions are some of the very large departments. [4:27:16, 4:27:21]: Uh, that that aren't able to, like say for instance, the Atlanta Police Department. They've got over two thousand employees. [4:27:21, 4:27:25]: Uh only only employees in specialized assignments are assigned take home vehicles. [4:27:25, 4:27:36]: Um and and um you know they're they're I think that really in terms of large agencies, you look at Gwinnett County Police Department has take-home vehicle program, Cobb County Police Department has a take-home vehicle program. [4:27:37, 4:27:44]: Um Henry County has a take-home vehicle program. So it's something that really is industry uh standard, but beyond the benefit. [4:27:44, 4:27:56]: Um it it it it actually there's a benefit in terms of it extending the life, the usable life of these vehicles because they're taken care of, they're not driven continuously, and um you know it ends up being a cost savings for for the city. [4:27:58, 4:28:05]: Okay, so maybe I have a different perspective because I look at it as more of a liability to the city. [4:28:05, 4:28:07]: Now I know that here county [4:28:08, 4:28:11]: PD, they do have a take home policy. [4:28:11, 4:28:12]: But I believe [4:28:12, 4:28:13]: It's restricted. [4:28:14, 4:28:14]: Um [4:28:14, 4:28:17]: to at least twenty or twenty-five miles. [4:28:19, 4:28:20]: Within the county. [4:28:21, 4:28:23]: Or outside the county. [4:28:23, 4:28:24]: So [4:28:25, 4:28:27]: How would we draft our policy? [4:28:27, 4:28:30]: To make sure that not all [4:28:30, 4:28:36]: Fifty-three of these employees are taking these vehicles an hour away. [4:28:37, 4:28:50]: Or driving fifty miles one way. Right. We we do the same thing that every other agency's done and we just make that part of our policy. This is not a decision that we have to make immediately because we're not gonna be in a position to assign vehicles for any, you know, anytime soon. [4:28:50, 4:28:56]: one of the positions that I'm seeking to hire is going to be taking care of policies and procedures. And so we will draft a policy. [4:28:56, 4:29:04]: Um that has guidelines for uh the the length that those officers uh can take those vehicles home. What we've seen. [4:29:04, 4:29:09]: is uh officers that live outside, let's say for instance the twenty mile range. [4:29:09, 4:29:29]: Is that a lot of agencies will allow them to drive it to another police department or fire station and park it there? So it's some somewhere in the middle of where they live versus where they have to commute to work. And uh, you know, that that's an advantage. So they're definitely things that we will implement. We're not going to give just just wide open discretion for people to drive, you know, 100 miles maximum. [4:29:29, 4:29:31]: and forth to work. [4:29:31, 4:29:37]: Um so we definitely will uh establish some guidelines on that, which is also probably gonna help us keep our pull. [4:29:38, 4:29:48]: of of candidates uh within our region so that we have uh folks that that are geographically situated near the city based on the requirements that we set for our take home program. [4:29:48, 4:29:52]: Awesome. You said exactly what I needed to hear. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. [4:29:54, 4:30:11]: Any other questions for the chief uh before we move on? Any other questions? Uh yes, Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please, sir. Uh Chief, I just like to reserve the opportunity to to to discuss that with you because that's one of my concerns as well. Uh briefly, I just want to ask you about [4:30:11, 4:30:13]: uh a stager [4:30:14, 4:30:15]: purchase [4:30:15, 4:30:17]: Only because I would [4:30:17, 4:30:20]: hate to think that all of these vehicle would need to be [4:30:20, 4:30:27]: uh maintenance um at the same time. Just briefly, I I I know it's time for us to move on, but [4:30:28, 4:30:34]: These are some of my concerns, but uh we can talk about this at at another point in time because it's nothing that we're really voting on, but [4:30:34, 4:30:37]: Um these are just just concerns. [4:30:39, 4:30:45]: So we can we can we can talk about these later, but I just wanted to uh express that. [4:30:45, 4:30:52]: I I thought m um Councilman Thomas, uh I was I was making a request for the acquisition of sixty vehicles at the cost of [4:30:53, 4:30:55]: two point three million dollars using ARPA fund. [4:30:57, 4:31:00]: Well, I'm just concerned about the the maintenance, but we we could talk about that. [4:31:02, 4:31:04]: All right, Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [4:31:05, 4:31:11]: Yes, I'd like for um attorney Berry to speak to um [4:31:11, 4:31:17]: this piggyback contract as opposed to us um [4:31:17, 4:31:18]: Doing a [4:31:18, 4:31:21]: advertisement or competitive bidding. [4:31:21, 4:31:29]: Uh, because I don't want the public to think that we just went out and randomly chose a dealer. So if you can [4:31:30, 4:31:35]: uh why and how we came to this piggyback contract please [4:31:36, 4:31:36]: Thank you. [4:31:39, 4:31:44]: Councilmember, thank you. Yeah, it's an emergency purchase. It's not a p piggyback. [4:31:44, 4:31:45]: It's [4:31:46, 4:31:51]: An emergency purchase uh chief trammer was able actually actually had he bought off the [4:31:52, 4:31:53]: State contract. [4:31:54, 4:31:59]: He was able to get a better deal this way than than piggybacking off the uh the state contract. [4:32:00, 4:32:04]: As I said before, and as we've put in the legislation, it's an emergency given. [4:32:04, 4:32:06]: The the city needs the vehicles. [4:32:06, 4:32:13]: It's very difficult to get the vehicles. Once he purchases, once the city purchases the vehicles, we've got to then spend up to about four months adding on. [4:32:14, 4:32:28]: the additional features. So to have the police force up and running and to have the vehicles, this needs to be done as an emergency purchase. And you know, as I said before, uh doing it this way rather than a piggyback, the city's actually saving money. [4:32:28, 4:32:32]: Okay, so can you explain why Brandon Motors [4:32:33, 4:32:35]: Was a dealer of choice. [4:32:36, 4:32:40]: That's what I'm trying to get at. So the public will know we did not. [4:32:40, 4:32:46]: circumvent any of our purchasing processes. They need to clearly understand [4:32:46, 4:32:48]: This emergency purchase. [4:32:48, 4:32:58]: Right. I well, I thought I'd just explain that, but Brandon actually has sold some vehicles off of the state contract. This is going to them and getting a better deal. [4:32:59, 4:33:00]: I [4:33:00, 4:33:08]: Yeah, the the they have sold vehicles, other police vehicles. There and the chief identified someone who already had vehicles in stock. [4:33:08, 4:33:09]: Where the city [4:33:09, 4:33:13]: will be able to get them some of these vehicles the end of the month. [4:33:13, 4:33:15]: It's not like you can, you know, like there's [4:33:15, 4:33:22]: fifteen different Honda dealerships in the metro area. There are only certain ones that sell police vehicles. [4:33:22, 4:33:25]: But it didn't come across the universe is smaller to begin with it. [4:33:26, 4:33:32]: Jeremy, it didn't come across clearly that Brandon was the approved state contract one of the approved state contract vendors. [4:33:33, 4:33:36]: You it was you were static when you were explaining it. [4:33:36, 4:33:44]: Oh sorry. I yeah, I've had to go downstairs because my kids are now asleep. So I'm away from my internet a little bit. So I may not have the best reception. [4:33:46, 4:33:48]: Jeremy, can can I [4:33:48, 4:33:50]: Yeah, just finish. [4:33:51, 4:33:55]: So so one of the things that just to answer your question, Councilwoman Barber. [4:33:55, 4:34:00]: Um a lot of there there are there are number so there are [4:34:00, 4:34:01]: Um [4:34:02, 4:34:08]: Several dealers that that that are authorized that have the current state contract and a number of other dealerships. [4:34:09, 4:34:15]: um generally piggyback off of the state contract um and uh are able to provide vehicles [4:34:15, 4:34:19]: um at that pricing uh to other law enforcement entities. [4:34:19, 4:34:30]: Uh Brandon is a is a large supplier of police vehicles. And just so that everybody has context about how we got here, and uh Mayor Pro Tem may be giving me a little bit too much credit, but just so you all know. [4:34:30, 4:34:38]: Uh, before we realized that we could use ARBA funding for the acquisition of these vehicles, we were actually exploring a lease option so that we could cut down on the capital costs. [4:34:38, 4:34:46]: of purchasing these vehicles um uh up front because we weren't sure whether or not we were gonna have that that funding to do so. [4:34:46, 4:35:06]: uh by virtue of negotiations with the only person who uh only entity at at present who can do leasing enterprise leasing, um, they work specifically with Brandon uh Motors uh to acquire their vehicles, which they lease to other police departments. The City of Roswell is a police department that leases vehicles from from enterprise as an example. [4:35:06, 4:35:15]: Uh in discussions with them, they had vehicles already in the order bank and they knew that we were getting ready to move forward with our department. [4:35:15, 4:35:20]: And uh Alec Good Faith decided, you know, we will hold sixty vehicles for you. [4:35:20, 4:35:28]: Uh, understanding that you will have a need for these. And they were okay doing that because they're not gonna have any problems selling these vehicles if we don't purchase them from them because there are hundreds. [4:35:28, 4:35:31]: of agencies that are in need of police vehicles. [4:35:31, 4:35:40]: So they've essentially held these vehicles by virtue of our conversations before I even got hired working through enterprise leasing. [4:35:40, 4:35:43]: And um that's why they have vehicles coming in sooner. [4:35:43, 4:35:54]: Uh there are other options to purchase the vehicle through state contact from contract from large uh um dealerships. As an example, Wade Ford actually holds one of these state contracts. [4:35:55, 4:36:13]: We could acquire vehicles from Wade Ford for roughly the same cost that we're getting them from Brandon. However, Wade Ford cannot guarantee that we are going to receive those vehicles, all those vehicles rather, in the time that we would need to order the equipment and have those vehicles upfitted. [4:36:13, 4:36:25]: Um, Brandon is the only dealership that we've been able to locate who will have those vehicles guaranteed within the time frame that we need to be able to get them upfitted to move forward with the police department. And so that's [4:36:25, 4:36:31]: That's in a nutshell why we have uh elected to go with Brandon. Just so you know, Locust Grove Police Department. [4:36:31, 4:36:51]: Um, they purchase their vehicles from Brandon uh under a piggyback on the state contract. So there are other agencies, and I believe I supplied that list in the documentation uh that I think was was distributed uh by you earlier, uh Mr. Berry, um, to show some of the other agencies in the Metro Atlanta area that that also are using Brandon automotive. [4:36:51, 4:37:07]: under piggyback to purchase that. To Mr. Berry's point, we're not going through piggyback because the emergency acquisition seems to be probably the most logical under the circumstances as it relates to moving forward the acquisition. So hopefully [4:37:07, 4:37:11]: Um that's answered your question. And if I misstated anything, Mr. Berry, please correct me. [4:37:14, 4:37:15]: Mr Blount, go ahead, please. [4:37:16, 4:37:27]: Yeah, Chief Tremor, so you say it that you mentioned wait for it, but you say they weren't able to guarantee. Are you saying they didn't have the vehicles that they couldn't guarantee that we would get the vehicles? [4:37:28, 4:37:34]: Um, so is the state contract under Brandon or is it under Wade and we chose Brandon because they could guarantee it? [4:37:35, 4:37:36]: Is that what you're saying? [4:37:37, 4:37:51]: Well well let me let me say this. So uh Wade Ford currently does not have these vehicles in inventory. Uh Brandon will have thirty-four vehicles at the end of the month. They're on a truck, they're ready to be dropped uh at the location, so we can guarantee that there will be thirty-four vehicles. [4:37:52, 4:37:54]: The other ones will arrive in January. [4:37:54, 4:37:59]: Um there's a good portion of vehicles uh from Wade that are that are uh scheduled. [4:37:59, 4:38:13]: And again, understanding there could be delays, because I'll tell you from my own personal experience when I worked at Georgia Tech and we were proc procuring vehicles, we were told, well, you're going to have your vehicles by this time, and it was months later after the fact. So uh there are really no guarantees. [4:38:14, 4:38:18]: Uh, with the exception of having those vehicles immediately available. So in talking with Wade Ford. [4:38:18, 4:38:34]: Uh they mentioned that they have some coming in in February, uh March timeframe. The other ones would would be here probably sometime in April, May timeframe. But again, uh what this does is put us very close to our deadline and we would not be able to guarantee receipt of all these vehicles. [4:38:34, 4:38:48]: As I said before, Brandon's the only one that I've been able to locate who can guarantee uh that we will have these vehicles in sufficient time to be able to move the department forward. So um but Chief, just real quick, just for the record. So you're saying that. [4:38:48, 4:38:56]: Brandon is the one with the state contract with I'm sorry way for it, but you chose Brandon because they could guarantee the vehicle. Is that correct? [4:38:58, 4:39:08]: There are only a few agencies that have the state contract. And just so you understand, there are a lot of dealerships to include, I believe, Legacy Ford and McDonough that will piggyback off the state contract. [4:39:09, 4:39:15]: So uh they're able to do that. Um and and that's what Brandon does is they piggyback off the current state contract. [4:39:16, 4:39:17]: Hell through eight four. [4:39:18, 4:39:20]: Does that answer your question, Councilman Blount? [4:39:21, 4:39:25]: No, I'm just saying so way four has the state contract, what I'm saying. [4:39:25, 4:39:28]: The state contract that people piggyback off of is way forward. [4:39:29, 4:39:32]: But you went with Brandon because they can guarantee the vehicles. [4:39:33, 4:39:34]: That's what I'll say. [4:39:35, 4:39:49]: I'm saying if I'm if I'm ever asked, and I and I concur with councilman bar, if I'm ever asked why we didn't do this or do that, and if Wave Ford has the state contract that people pick it back off of, but we chose Brandon, is that because Brandon could guarantee the vehicles? [4:39:50, 4:39:51]: That's correct. Yes, that's correct. [4:39:52, 4:40:00]: So the state contract that that that we would normally pick it back off of is way forward, but we chose Brendan because they could guarantee the vehicles. [4:40:01, 4:40:04]: I I believe that's that's correct. Yeah, that's what I just said. [4:40:04, 4:40:05]: So [4:40:06, 4:40:15]: But Jeremy said that we're not piggybacking. This is an emergency purchase because Brandon is the only dealer that has the vehicles available. [4:40:16, 4:40:19]: So this is the emergency purchase, not a state piggy bag. [4:40:19, 4:40:20]: Correct. Correct. [4:40:20, 4:40:21]: Thank you. [4:40:23, 4:40:25]: All right, any other questions? [4:40:25, 4:40:32]: Mayor, I uh mayor, I just want to say for my purposes and for me, for John Blount. [4:40:32, 4:40:37]: When I'm asked questions, I just want to and and I thank Chief Traymor for giving me the answers. [4:40:38, 4:40:40]: Nobody's on trial here. Nobody. [4:40:42, 4:41:02]: So when I get the answer, that's all I wanted was the answer. And that's and and Chief Tramer, thank you for giving me that answer. And that's all I want. I'm not sitting here trying to let anyone anybody else put me on trial. I just want answers because when I'm asked questions, I just want to be able to answer. [4:41:02, 4:41:02]: Simple as that. [4:41:03, 4:41:03]: All right. [4:41:03, 4:41:13]: Thanks. And and I appreciate that, Councilman Blount. I certainly want to answer your question. It was one of those things that I thought I'd answer the question, so I just had to pause for a moment to see if there was something I was missing. So I apologize. [4:41:14, 4:41:19]: No, you you're you're fine, Chief. You know, we just I just gotta always get this other stuff. That's you're fine. [4:41:20, 4:41:27]: All right. On that note, uh no other questions. I need a motion to accept this proposal. Is there a motion? So move. Is there a second? [4:41:30, 4:41:31]: Is there a second? [4:41:35, 4:41:46]: Mr. Thomas seconds that motion. Okay. I got a motion that was being made in reference to purchasing of these uh police department vehicles. All favored motion, please indicate. [4:41:47, 4:41:49]: One, two. [4:41:50, 4:41:51]: Three opposed. [4:41:53, 4:41:55]: Mr. Blount, you oppose or you abstain? [4:41:57, 4:41:58]: You're muted, sir. [4:42:00, 4:42:01]: First thing. [4:42:01, 4:42:03]: Okay, so it's three zero one. [4:42:03, 4:42:06]: And motion passes. Thank you very much. [4:42:06, 4:42:09]: Yeah, Chief Tremor, outstanding. We're gonna have some vehicles. [4:42:10, 4:42:10]: Good deal. [4:42:11, 4:42:14]: Council consideration to approve the uh [4:42:14, 4:42:28]: Recommendation of a second extended term per section four of the client services health and wellness agreement for one January 2022 through 31 January, excuse me, December 31st, 2022. Ms. Wheeler, please. [4:42:29, 4:42:31]: Um good evening, council. [4:42:31, 4:42:35]: Uh, what you have before you is a recommendation to approve the [4:42:35, 4:42:40]: Second extended term of the agreement with corporate health partners. [4:42:40, 4:42:42]: For a health and wellness program. [4:42:43, 4:42:45]: Um you were provided a [4:42:45, 4:42:46]: Uh [4:42:47, 4:42:58]: Um some information regarding some of the program highlights as it relates to the health and wellness program and the successes that have occurred with the employees. [4:42:59, 4:43:00]: And program participation. [4:43:02, 4:43:05]: So we're asking for approval of this agreement. [4:43:07, 4:43:09]: Any questions for Miss Wheeler, Council? [4:43:11, 4:43:16]: If there are no questions in a motion to approve this particular proposal, there are a motion. [4:43:19, 4:43:20]: Is there a motion? [4:43:23, 4:43:25]: Okay, no motion. [4:43:26, 4:43:33]: Questions? Yeah, questions and yes. Talk about it a little bit. Tell them what [4:43:33, 4:43:41]: Well, in the twenty twenty-one year, the program highlights is that we had ninety-four point seven percent um participation. [4:43:41, 4:43:43]: Um, half of the employees. [4:43:44, 4:43:47]: have attended or have been engaged in the healthy break. [4:43:47, 4:43:50]: uh breaks that we have had were there monthly [4:43:50, 4:43:53]: Um programs for [4:43:53, 4:43:57]: The employees to improve their health and wellness. [4:43:57, 4:44:04]: Um, the city of Stockbridge participated in the first city health challenge with various cities throughout Metro Atlanta. [4:44:05, 4:44:10]: And we came in fifth. Our we had five employees that uh participated and [4:44:11, 4:44:12]: um in that program. [4:44:13, 4:44:14]: We have [4:44:14, 4:44:16]: Utilized um [4:44:17, 4:44:25]: Have re reduced some of the high-risk areas, which is our obesity, diabetes, and hypertension. [4:44:26, 4:44:31]: And in twenty twenty to twenty twenty one, of the sixty members that participated in the cohort. [4:44:32, 4:44:36]: The high risk decreased from fifty eight point three percent to fifty five percent. [4:44:37, 4:44:40]: And the low risk remained at sixteen point seven. [4:44:40, 4:44:41]: Percent. [4:44:41, 4:44:45]: The areas of concentration where we need room for improvement. [4:44:45, 4:44:48]: Will be in weight management and diabetes management. [4:44:48, 4:44:50]: And if you look at the [4:44:50, 4:44:51]: Um [4:44:52, 4:44:56]: the the slide presentation that you were provided. [4:44:56, 4:44:58]: We had um [4:44:59, 4:45:07]: Some great numbers that show that even the city of Stockbridge is below the national average for prediabetes and hypertension. [4:45:08, 4:45:13]: Again, we're going back and looking deeply into the opportunities of [4:45:13, 4:45:15]: Diabetes management. [4:45:15, 4:45:24]: obesity, which will do a weight management program, and tobacco use, because we're still high in those areas according to the national average. [4:45:27, 4:45:33]: Blood sugar levels for employees were low. It went from forty-seven point eight percent to forty-four percent. [4:45:33, 4:45:38]: Obesity was reduced from fifty three point seven percent to fifty one percent. [4:45:38, 4:45:43]: And cholesterol levels were reduced from thirty-five point eight percent to thirty-three percent. [4:45:45, 4:45:48]: There has been a number of culture and engagement. [4:45:48, 4:45:50]: Um engagements for the employees. [4:45:50, 4:45:53]: We had healthy breaks on financial preparedness. [4:45:54, 4:45:58]: sleep health, retirement and estate planning, and boosting immunity. [4:45:59, 4:46:05]: Our challenges that we had this year for the employees were the city challenge, a virtual 5K. [4:46:06, 4:46:09]: The one in November will be maintain, don't gain. [4:46:10, 4:46:13]: And then snooze or lose, but we try to deal with sleep. [4:46:13, 4:46:16]: Um habits of individuals. [4:46:19, 4:46:21]: The employee experience. [4:46:21, 4:46:33]: has been um pretty good. Um 90% in September of 2021, so a benefit for the wellness program versus 86% in December of 2020. [4:46:33, 4:46:37]: Um, ninety percent have participated in wellness events. [4:46:38, 4:46:38]: Um [4:46:38, 4:46:41]: Eighty seven percent in December of twenty twenty. [4:46:41, 4:46:44]: Find health coaching to be motivational, eighty percent. [4:46:45, 4:46:47]: In twenty twenty one of September. [4:46:47, 4:46:51]: Um eighty percent believe their health awareness has improved. [4:46:51, 4:46:59]: And believe ninety percent have believed their health has improved overall since they've been a part of the health and wellness program. [4:47:00, 4:47:04]: And there have been some kudos given to our health coaches. [4:47:04, 4:47:09]: The health coach is full of good suggestions and offers solutions to life challenges. [4:47:09, 4:47:13]: They want to thank us for the check ins. This is more than just a job for you. We feel [4:47:14, 4:47:15]: The love and appreciate it. [4:47:16, 4:47:22]: And and some of the employees said, I just wanted to simply say thank you for everything. I know that it's your job, but you do it with class. [4:47:22, 4:47:25]: And then the program allows participants to stay engaged. [4:47:26, 4:47:28]: About being mindful of their health. [4:47:28, 4:47:31]: Where they may have been inclined to fall short. [4:47:32, 4:47:35]: Our plans for the twenty twenty two plant program year. [4:47:35, 4:47:40]: will be the continual improvement in offering healthy breaks with guest speakers. [4:47:40, 4:47:43]: Further promote the my wellness site. [4:47:43, 4:47:47]: And my well app features to increase overall engagement of employees. [4:47:47, 4:47:53]: Offer a live better, feel better weight management class, and set up monthly and bi-monthly touch points. [4:47:56, 4:48:00]: And shaking up some of the healthy breaks, we will bring in more guest speakers. [4:48:01, 4:48:07]: Um, CHP has a diabetes specialist to present a diabetes management and prevention program. [4:48:08, 4:48:11]: And there will be a health coach to present on building a better brain. [4:48:11, 4:48:14]: We will continue with our take care of your mental health. [4:48:15, 4:48:18]: Blood pressure healthy uh break. [4:48:18, 4:48:22]: In financial wellness that we've partnered with uh P and C Bank. [4:48:22, 4:48:29]: And we brought in GMA also to talk about our retirement planning for our employees. [4:48:30, 4:48:41]: There will be a continual platform enhancement where employees can call in and ask an expert expert on anything that they may feel they want to talk about, which will be launched. [4:48:41, 4:48:43]: In January of twenty twenty two. [4:48:44, 4:48:50]: And there will be regular touch points for effective communications between myself and. [4:48:50, 4:48:57]: um CHP on any type of information that we need to bring forward to our employees on a regular basis. [4:48:58, 4:49:02]: In the agreement, we also do risk assessments, biometric screenings. [4:49:02, 4:49:09]: They provide us with a management report. We have incentive management where we give our prizes to employees that. [4:49:09, 4:49:13]: compete in the various challenges and any of the healthy breaks. [4:49:13, 4:49:22]: They get 30 minute one-on-one coaching, individual coaching by a health coach to help them improve on any areas that they deem necessary. [4:49:24, 4:49:27]: And also they're afforded a weekly meal plan. [4:49:27, 4:49:30]: And also a monthly newsletter every month. [4:49:31, 4:49:36]: on various topics that uh we've that are necessary for health and wellness. [4:49:36, 4:49:40]: Ms. Thank you. So I'm gonna look at finish up. Thank you so much. [4:49:40, 4:49:54]: Uh, for the statistic. How m how much money would you anticipate this saves for us uh on our insurance costs or does it have a relative concern uh savings for the city for participation? [4:49:55, 4:50:06]: Well, we hoped that it would have a savings on the city, on the city claims forms, but as you know, this year our claims were kind of high because we had certain [4:50:06, 4:50:07]: Um [4:50:09, 4:50:18]: I won't say diseases, but certain medical issues with some of our employees that were issues that were beyond our control. [4:50:18, 4:50:23]: But in reducing the tobacco use when you can do that and when you [4:50:23, 4:50:30]: You can re um reduce your tobacco use from twenty-eight percent to twenty-five to nineteen percent. [4:50:30, 4:50:38]: Um to 28 to 25%. That's a big deal for the number of employees that are participating in the program. [4:50:38, 4:50:46]: Our obesity, you know, we did a good number on reducing obesity. So it does have an effect on long-term. [4:50:46, 4:50:48]: Claims because we are able [4:50:48, 4:50:50]: To prevent health disease. [4:50:50, 4:50:55]: We're able to manage if we can get the diabetes under control with diabetes management. [4:50:56, 4:51:01]: We can help employees regulate their medication, find out what kind of medication they on. [4:51:01, 4:51:09]: Work with their doctors and be uh and they will be aware of what it is that they're doing, what they need to do in order to reduce. [4:51:09, 4:51:10]: Dear [4:51:11, 4:51:15]: those those numbers that they have that keep them at a high risk. [4:51:15, 4:51:18]: We've done well with pre diabetes and hypertension. [4:51:19, 4:51:22]: So that means the wellness program is working towards. [4:51:22, 4:51:25]: Getting those numbers down and getting those employees healthier. [4:51:27, 4:51:28]: I wonder [4:51:28, 4:51:31]: Yes, sir. Okay, Councilman Blanc, go ahead, please. [4:51:32, 4:51:34]: Mr. Alexander, was he finished? [4:51:34, 4:51:36]: Yeah, I think he's done. Yes. [4:51:36, 4:51:39]: Uh Ms. Wheeler, thank you for presenting that. Um [4:51:41, 4:51:42]: A lot of the uh [4:51:42, 4:51:46]: the the the uh programs that you guys had coming through this. [4:51:46, 4:51:50]: I wasn't able to attend, but I was able to get the literature from those. [4:51:50, 4:52:01]: And it was very, very informative. I'm talking about that is uh I would tell I would send that the stuff that they was doing with that program and uh incentives from it and and just even from a health standpoint. [4:52:02, 4:52:16]: uh was very, very good, uh very helpful for in in so many different areas. We even when you talk about diabetes, you talk about high blood pressure, you talk about cholesterol, all these things very informative. I think it I think the city needs that. [4:52:16, 4:52:36]: Uh we had situations that was, you know, uh out of our control this year. But I think overall this program has been excellent. I mean, I've seen and talked to many of the instructors that have come through, and uh they have the the literature I've gotten from them and information I've gotten from them, even as an elected official, has been very beneficial. So, mayor would probably [4:52:36, 4:52:42]: For me, for that being said, I like the motion to approve the health and wellness uh program continue with the city. [4:52:42, 4:52:43]: Good deal, so a second. [4:52:44, 4:52:48]: Second. Mayor for temp second dad. Okay. All in favor, please indicate. [4:52:49, 4:52:53]: Okay. I got uh m uh Miss Barber, did you vote? [4:52:55, 4:52:57]: Barber, did you vote? I got three votes. Did you vote, ma'am? [4:52:58, 4:53:02]: I'm abstaining and I'm abstaining because this is the [4:53:03, 4:53:05]: All right, three zero second extension. [4:53:05, 4:53:06]: And I like [4:53:06, 4:53:08]: If I can add this [4:53:09, 4:53:10]: The calm. [4:53:10, 4:53:18]: I like to extend these. I don't like to extend these. I'd rather see them bitted out after one extension. [4:53:18, 4:53:19]: All right. [4:53:19, 4:53:34]: 301 motion passed. Thank you, Ms. Wheeler. Thank you. You're welcome. Council consideration approved sister city relationship with uh Afika. Afika. Oh my. Cabri South District of Ghana. [4:53:34, 4:53:53]: A sister city relationship and form a long-term agreement that involves the commitment of resources to achieve specific goals, sister city arrangements, promote cultural, educational, and economic exchanges to generate development between the two communities. The primary aim is establishing a sister city relationship with the Alfica. [4:53:54, 4:54:09]: Cobra, South District of Ghana is to foster mutual beneficial connections that will bring new businesses, tourism, and span the cultural footprint on both sides of the world. Mr. Peterson, please, and and and tell me how to pronounce this because I'm all messed up here. [4:54:10, 4:54:13]: Oh good. Yes, sir. It's um a Fiji. [4:54:13, 4:54:18]: Of your own. Yes, sir. Uh yes, yes. Um good evening, council member and [4:54:18, 4:54:38]: and uh city and staff. Um I'm here to present a sister city relationship um and it will expand our economic development footprint globally. Um as many of you all know the city of Atlanta has 17 sister cities and that does not include their regional alliances. [4:54:38, 4:54:50]: So sister cities are a huge deal in Georgia. We do not have a sister city here in Stockbridge, and there is not a sister city. [4:54:50, 4:54:52]: in uh Henry County. [4:54:52, 4:54:55]: So this would certainly uh set us apart. There is a [4:54:55, 4:55:00]: economic and a cultural and a geographic advantage to having a sister city. [4:55:01, 4:55:01]: Um [4:55:02, 4:55:10]: Without further ado, I'm going to have the consultant I've been dealing with, Miss Samuel, present. She has a very detailed presentation. [4:55:10, 4:55:13]: And I before she starts, I do want to point out. [4:55:13, 4:55:17]: That the cost is already in the department budget. [4:55:17, 4:55:22]: But uh Miss Samuel, if you can go ahead and present and share your screen, please. [4:55:23, 4:55:32]: No problem. Thank you, Dr. Peterson. Evening, Mayor and Council members. I'm losing my voice a little bit tonight, so excuse me. Let me share my screen. [4:55:53, 4:56:00]: Mayor. Yes, sir. While she repa prepares that, um, may I ask Mr. Peterson a question? Sir, go right ahead. [4:56:00, 4:56:09]: My my question is, and I and I talked to you before, uh, Ms. Peterson, and I understand City of Atlanta because of their footprint, have an international uh [4:56:09, 4:56:13]: uh relations uh ships with with uh on that level [4:56:14, 4:56:28]: But you mentioned there's not anything like this in Henry County. I I don't know of any city outside around our size that has those type of relationships. Are there any cities you know of around our size that has that type of relationship with sister cities? [4:56:28, 4:56:29]: Uh yes, make it. [4:56:30, 4:56:31]: Making does. [4:56:31, 4:56:51]: Also, um Decatur and the Cab County, they have two sister cities. When you're talking actually, if the Cab well see the Cab County doesn't fit the size of City of Stockbridge, nor does make and be fit the size of the city of Stockbridge. When you're talking make and bill, you're talking about a big vast area. When you're talking to Cab County, you're talking a big vast. I'm talking about a [4:56:51, 4:56:57]: a city our size right sister cities. Yeah. Decatur is a smaller city. [4:56:59, 4:57:03]: Decatur and Decab, they're they're a smaller city and they have three. [4:57:03, 4:57:10]: sister cities. The the the cab the decatur. Decatur. Decatur. The city of Decatur in Decab County. [4:57:12, 4:57:16]: Okay. I think we just lost our our um guest there. [4:57:17, 4:57:19]: I don't see it. I don't see her anymore. [4:57:20, 4:57:21]: All right, let me [4:57:23, 4:57:26]: Go ahead. Oh, there she is. Okay, there we go. [4:57:27, 4:57:30]: You disappeared on us for Samuel. Yeah, don't scare us like that. [4:57:31, 4:57:37]: All right. Uh no co now we need to share your screen. So see if we can get this. Oh, there we go. Looks like oh [4:57:39, 4:57:41]: Okay. Do I need to share my screen? [4:57:42, 4:57:45]: Well, if if you have the same presentation, okay there we go. Okay, there it is. [4:57:55, 4:57:57]: We can see it. Um [4:58:02, 4:58:05]: Okay. [4:58:09, 4:58:12]: We can see your screen. We can see your screen. [4:58:15, 4:58:16]: Is she still muted? [4:58:16, 4:58:20]: I don't know if she's I can't see. Well let me see here. Let me move this. [4:58:20, 4:58:40]: Okay, you can hear me now? Yeah, we can hear you now. There you go. All right, perfect. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Of course, right at the last minute, my system preferences blocked me out. Okay, we're back. Um, I wanted to start by kind of defining sister cities. Um it's a city or district that will enter into a formal relationship with Stockbridge, Georgia, um, through a sister city agreement. It's like an M. [4:58:40, 4:58:41]: M O U [4:58:41, 4:58:46]: It is not anything that locks either city into the relationship and it can be dissolved at any moment. [4:58:47, 4:58:48]: So I wanted to make sure I clarified that. [4:58:49, 4:58:57]: Um, it's a formal long-term agreement. It's a commitment of resources to achieve specific goals. So essentially it's whatever we make it. [4:58:57, 4:59:03]: This proposal kind of outlines the different aspects of the agreement that we need to. [4:59:03, 4:59:10]: kind of establish or look towards in order to establish this with the Afija Kwabre district in Kumasi Ghana. [4:59:10, 4:59:13]: The primary aim is to establish the relationship. [4:59:13, 4:59:23]: between the Fiji Quabre district in Kumasi Ghana and Stockbridge in order to promote business opportunities, tourism, and expand the cultural footprint on both sides of the world. [4:59:24, 4:59:27]: I wanted to talk a little bit about the district of within Kumasi. [4:59:28, 4:59:31]: Um, their population is actually a hundred and sixteen thousand. [4:59:32, 4:59:36]: They're one of two hundred and sixty metropolitan municipal and district assemblies in Ghana. [4:59:37, 4:59:39]: Um in areas of mutual interest. [4:59:39, 4:59:48]: Tourism, business attraction, and business expansion. And then I just put that little graphic so you can kind of see where it's located in Ghana. [4:59:49, 5:00:09]: I just kind of wanted to talk about myself a little bit, very briefly. I know it's late. That this will, in terms of deliverables, you all will receive briefs detailing the program design, implementation process, any metrics, and the results and outcomes of those, attendance sheets, narratives, quotes from particular. [5:00:09, 5:00:15]: Participants, follow-up commentary, suggestions for allgoing ongoing programming and development. [5:00:15, 5:00:24]: Any invoices, detailing services, rendered and dates, and ongoing check-ins throughout the process, ensuring we're adding value and adjusting as needed. [5:00:26, 5:00:35]: Little bit about myself. My master's of science is in educational psychology, educational administration, curriculum development. [5:00:35, 5:00:44]: I work at a software company and I actually live in my home. And this picture is my home in Ghana. So I actually live in the district in Ghana. I live between there and Atlanta. [5:00:47, 5:01:07]: Comparable projects that I've done before, I did one in Bahia, Brazil. It was through a Fulbright with Morehouse in partnership with the Steve Biko Cultural Institute. We were looking at the intersection of culture and education, looking to reduce crime rates within the community and improve educational outcomes with standardized testing. I also did a project with Beijing, China. [5:01:07, 5:01:20]: China and the University College of London. It was a book bridge program. And they also had some very tangible outcomes. And then this will be my third with two major cities. So I just kind of wanted to speak to that a bit. [5:01:21, 5:01:41]: And then talk about the successes. So I've been doing projects with the honorable Christian Dupoku. He is actually the mayor on that end. This is a picture of himself and I. We've been meeting. He's really excited about this opportunity to work with the city of Stockbridge. Um, he sees a lot of opportunity for growth on both sides. And I have a couple of quotes from him. [5:01:41, 5:01:44]: I I work with Silvia Humberto in Bahia Brazil. [5:01:45, 5:01:48]: I have a quote from him, and then I worked with Fulton County. [5:01:48, 5:01:51]: School system. I also work with Clayton County school system. [5:01:53, 5:02:02]: This relationship will create community support systems, programs, and initiatives that will positively impact the socioeconomic development of both cities. [5:02:03, 5:02:15]: Transform Stockbridge into an international city by supporting local cultural centers, virtual forums, food and music festivals, and bolstering the connection between the diverse population, Stockbridge citizens overall. [5:02:16, 5:02:24]: It can also attract new businesses and support existing businesses. And finally, facilitate a pipeline between Stockbridge, Georgia, and Kumasi in Ghana. [5:02:27, 5:02:37]: Okay, so I went ahead and thought about um working with Dr. Peterson. What are some programs that I think can add value to Stockbridge and some of your strategic designs? [5:02:37, 5:02:40]: um that I've I was able to have access to that were published to the public. [5:02:41, 5:02:45]: And I came up with about three or four programs that I think could really benefit [5:02:46, 5:02:57]: Stockbridge through this relationship. But of course, this relationship is whatever we make it. So I want to clarify that. This one is an annual flagship SMB, small to medium business program. [5:02:57, 5:03:13]: Um, and this is towards developing and supporting businesses in Stockbridge. So the City of Stockbridge would select 10 minority SMB business owners for this program to assist entrepreneurs and small to medium-sized business owners with scaling and sustaining their businesses. [5:03:13, 5:03:18]: So they can thrive. This can work in partnership. Um [5:03:18, 5:03:29]: with another organization. This can work directly with the business owners. We can assist them with launching their business, scaling their business, sourcing products, and maintaining their business. This would also culminate [5:03:30, 5:03:31]: With an actual [5:03:31, 5:03:41]: trip to our sister city in Kumasi, Ghana. And then those expenses, some of those expenses which actu would would actually be incurred by the business itself. [5:03:45, 5:03:57]: Here are some measurements and metrics that could come from that. We could have participant feedback, program completion rate, participants with positive business growth, leads converted, increase in sales. [5:03:59, 5:04:17]: I have another one. This one is Sister City Saturdays creating the bridge. And we looked at this a couple of different ways, really wanted to see how we could use kind of the city center of Stock Bridge and get more people in the area thinking about food trucks and different festivals we can. [5:04:17, 5:04:18]: Do [5:04:19, 5:04:27]: In lieu or in light of the sister city relationship. So it can be about Ghana, but it can also be just about different cultures within the diaspora. [5:04:28, 5:04:30]: Um kind of highlighting the sister city relationship. [5:04:30, 5:04:32]: Again, another program. [5:04:32, 5:04:37]: That can further the sister city relationship to more tangible goals and outcomes for Stockbridge. [5:04:38, 5:04:44]: We also work in partnership with a incubator program called 100K Incubator. [5:04:44, 5:05:03]: And uh they do some really exciting things. Um, I would love to talk about them a little bit later, but we work in partnership with them to really support your businesses and they have really, really great outcomes of helping businesses scale. And they would do this, they also work um through Kumasu Ghana. So we would be able to do that on this side. [5:05:04, 5:05:06]: And this side for a lot of our business owners. [5:05:07, 5:05:18]: They specifically have helped women and minority business owners access more than$8 million in capital through their incubator program. So I just wanted to highlight them as one of our partners. [5:05:19, 5:05:35]: Attract and retain business. We can also work with the community, the city of Stockbridge to promote this relationship to look at attracting local and foreign businesses, identify space and opportunities for local and foreign businesses to call Stockbridge, Georgia their home. [5:05:35, 5:05:55]: Attract entrepreneurial conferences, social media meetups, influencer tours, and more. I don't know if you all are aware, but a lot of our social media influencers that are now on the market, they're coming out of West Africa. And they're looking for cities, specifically and especially around the perimeter of Atlanta. [5:05:55, 5:06:01]: To come and bring their festivals, their conferences, and their tours. So it's another opportunity. [5:06:03, 5:06:13]: I also went ahead and added some, sorry about that, measurements and data that we can collect about event participations, participant feedback, impressions. [5:06:14, 5:06:17]: And then we have an urban health and community development. [5:06:17, 5:06:37]: And if you all are familiar with this concept of the blue zones coined by Dan Butner, and they're these zones, especially within cities like Stockbridge, where people live healthy and happy lives. And they have very tangible reasons why this happens. One is a trust for their government, one is access to healthcare. [5:06:37, 5:06:46]: Several different metrics. And this is something that we can intentionally support in Stockbridge as well as in Kumasi simultaneously. [5:06:48, 5:06:51]: And lastly, a parent training and support program. [5:06:51, 5:07:06]: Um, I am currently at the final stage in partnership with Morrow School of Medicine and SNAP, which stands for Statewide Network Among Partners for Parents and Caregivers, as a grant to support healthy parent-child relationships. We're finalizing a [5:07:07, 5:07:08]: Um curriculum. [5:07:08, 5:07:16]: That supports healthy parent and children relationships. And this is something that we can also use within this relationship. [5:07:17, 5:07:31]: Lastly, um, looking at some economic impact, increase the health and well-being for the families, increase positive parenting experiences and practices. Um, and we also have some metrics associated with this. Everything that we would do in Stockbridge would be. [5:07:32, 5:07:38]: jointly also conducted in our Kumasi sister city um arena. So we would have [5:07:39, 5:07:47]: The both organizations, both communities speaking to each other, we would have virtual events, hopefully annually. I know Macon has spoken to this. They take [5:07:48, 5:07:54]: people over to A Elmina in Ghana actually to promote this relationship. [5:07:56, 5:08:16]: I wanted to talk about the process and next steps if you all decide to move forward. So the relationship on their side is already established. They understand Stockbridge. I've been speaking to them about it. They're very excited. And then next is establishing an MOU an agreement that both cities say they are in agreement that they will be a sister city. [5:08:17, 5:08:22]: And then from there, once the relationship is formally established, we can decide on what this looks like. [5:08:24, 5:08:43]: I wanted to talk about some wins. We've donated over$125,000 worth of supplies to schools in Kumasi, supported over 150, excuse me, 150 travelers across groups, supported a book tour, built bathrooms for local schools, facilitated the sale of plots of land, and many, many more. [5:08:45, 5:09:04]: And then I wanted to talk about Georgia's progress. I heard a question asking, I was coming off the call. Apologies for that. About the size of Stockbridge and you know its value and work to Stockbridge. Um, so I did want to speak to Atlanta, does have 17 sister city relationships. They have a whole council dedicated to it. They have a lot of information. [5:09:04, 5:09:24]: um about it in a lot of their outcomes. For the most part, these relationships are kind of altruistic. There's a cultural experience. But they there are a lot of organizations now looking at how revenue is increased coming from these relationships, mainly because of exposure and awareness through these festivals. [5:09:24, 5:09:25]: In programming. [5:09:29, 5:09:38]: And I wanted to talk about Making Georgia. That was the one I wanted to highlight. They have one with Elmina in Ghana. They also have one in Japan, Russia, and Taiwan. [5:09:38, 5:09:40]: Um, as well as France. [5:09:40, 5:09:45]: And then they kind of talked about what that process looked like for them. I looked at Kennesaw and Cobb County. [5:09:46, 5:09:52]: Um, and they also they are currently exploring sister city relationships. They have been voting on it recently. [5:09:53, 5:10:13]: And then I wanted to talk about why Ghana, the IMF, selected Ghana as one of Africa's fastest growing economies. And I don't it on social media, Ghana's kind of having its day in the sunshine as well. It's where everybody is looking. The tourism that is going heading to Ghana has increased since COVID. [5:10:13, 5:10:14]: Which is very interesting. [5:10:14, 5:10:32]: Um, and speaking of COVID, another one of the ways that these sister city relationships have benefited cities is during this time, a lot of cities had the conversations of how they were able to support their cities dealing with this health crisis. So this relationship can expand and blossom into whatever we make it. [5:10:37, 5:10:40]: Okay, I am back. Can you all still hear me? [5:10:40, 5:10:52]: Yes, we can. Okay. And that concludes my presentation. I just kind of wanted I wanted to speak to the slides and the possibilities. I'm really excited. Um, and I would love to hear any questions if you have any. [5:10:53, 5:11:13]: It's very interesting to me, I tell you. This is quite a quite a in uh inventor, I should say, that uh we'd want to possibly take on. So I I I I think it's great this aspect. But uh yeah, different, different, different and a and a good opportunity. I've never been to uh Ghana, been to North Africa, but not Ghana. [5:11:13, 5:11:20]: But anyway, um any questions uh uh counsel and Mr. Peterson, do you have anything you need to add, sir, at this time? [5:11:21, 5:11:31]: Uh no, I I don't have anything that I would like to add. I would just like for um Ms. Samu to just go over those uh next steps again if it is approved by council. [5:11:33, 5:11:47]: Okay. Yeah, go ahead, Ms. Thomas, please. Dr. Peterson, I know you said it was covered in your budget. Um what is the cost for this for this partnership? [5:11:48, 5:11:51]: The cost, the initial cost is fifty five hundred. [5:11:52, 5:11:54]: It's in my professional services line item. [5:11:55, 5:11:58]: Uh, that is dedicated for consultants. Um [5:11:58, 5:12:03]: And that would cover the initial fee of setting up the agreement. [5:12:03, 5:12:04]: Um [5:12:04, 5:12:23]: And as Ms. As Ms. Samuel said, uh the agreement is what we make it. Once that cost is paid, we can form those programs how we want it, how we want. The programs that she listed are just some examples of programs that we came up with. Those are not concrete or set in stone. [5:12:25, 5:12:27]: So are there any projected? [5:12:27, 5:12:30]: cost going forward once it is set up. [5:12:31, 5:12:40]: Yes, the the programs that she listed, uh those have cost to them. Now we would of course uh review, I will look at the look at my [5:12:41, 5:12:50]: uh 2022 budget, uh look at those, of course try to get the the cost shaved down. We would also look at the business community to see how many of them want to get involved as well. [5:12:51, 5:12:52]: So all of that. [5:12:53, 5:13:04]: would uh would be a factor in deciding what programs we adopt if we do in fact those programs. We can also uh edit those programs um if if we get to that point. [5:13:04, 5:13:07]: I thank you. [5:13:07, 5:13:11]: Mr. Blank, go ahead. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. Mr. Peterson, first of all, um [5:13:12, 5:13:28]: Ms. Samuel, thank you for your presentation. Uh Ms. Peasan, I talked to you um the other day about this and and I and I I think I'm still at a loss too uh because you say the initial cost is 5500 and then whatever was [5:13:28, 5:13:33]: It seemed like a program that's set up that we're we're we're not implementing, we're supporting. [5:13:34, 5:13:36]: Uh no we but [5:13:37, 5:13:38]: I'm sorry, go ahead. [5:13:39, 5:13:44]: Oh, go go ahead. I'm sorry, go ahead. It it's it sound like something that we're we're basically supporting. [5:13:45, 5:14:01]: uh whatever programs come up come about because you just told me you two came up with uh whatever the programs we just saw. So whatever's been laid out, you guys are now laying out the foundation for. So I mean and like I've told you before, I I know that you have certain monies in your budget. [5:14:02, 5:14:12]: But I just for me, I'm about I'm just trying to see what really makes sense with this and how it would support our city of Stockbridge. And I'm first supporting. [5:14:13, 5:14:32]: uh any program that help people i i'm i'm i'm down with that period and mayor if you haven't been to ghana just uh just kind of close your eyes and go to the west end for a little while uh but okay something similar but okay but but i'm just trying to say that i'm just trying to figure out whether this [5:14:33, 5:14:53]: You know, you say because now I'm hearing this initial its initial consult consultation uh amount, which is fifty five hundred. So where did this go and where did this take us? I'm just tr and that's where the disconnect coming in for me is I'm just trying to figure out where do we go from there? Because there's nothing [5:14:53, 5:14:53]: Mm. [5:14:54, 5:15:07]: that you're giving me that you guys haven't just thought of, but where does it take us? And if the council chooses to go ahead and support it, that's fine. But I'm just trying to figure out make sense on where do we go and how that this supports us as this city. [5:15:08, 5:15:12]: How you know how how do we fit in as a city of Stockbridge? [5:15:12, 5:15:16]: And is it it is is it a just a supporting agency for [5:15:17, 5:15:23]: Ghana, uh helping Ghana to establish whatever that you guys are doing. I I I'm I'm I guess I'm missing something. [5:15:24, 5:15:32]: Well, no, it's uh both both cities would benefit in the presentation. Uh Ms. Samuel talked about all the programs that we established. [5:15:32, 5:15:50]: that that we already put together and established for those small businesses. Now, of course, we would look at those programs. We would join this sister city relationship with our business recruitment and retention committee and speak to the business owners and come up with more specific programs. [5:15:51, 5:16:00]: That could help the businesses as well. But it it is, you know, it it's what we make it. I've spoken to the Georgia Department of Economic Development. [5:16:00, 5:16:06]: um about their role with with uh with the sister cities. I've also spoken to [5:16:06, 5:16:21]: the uh diplomacy and external affairs department with the city of Atlanta, who handles all of their sister city relationships. So once we get ours established, we'll meet, we'll speak again and we can put something together, maybe partner with them. [5:16:21, 5:16:25]: But uh as far as the fifty five hundred, that's the cost for the consultant. [5:16:25, 5:16:27]: Uh to set it up. [5:16:27, 5:16:29]: А мессамуел билпин. [5:16:29, 5:16:32]: uh put together whatever programs we decide. [5:16:32, 5:16:33]: She would be the liaison. [5:16:34, 5:16:34]: Between [5:16:35, 5:16:36]: Us and Ghana. [5:16:37, 5:16:38]: But um [5:16:38, 5:16:40]: Go ahead, Councilmember Blount. [5:16:40, 5:16:42]: No, no, I'm listening to you. No. [5:16:42, 5:16:42]: Yeah. [5:16:44, 5:16:48]: No, I'm listening to you. No, I wasn't in the justice. No, no, I wasn't in the jeting. [5:16:48, 5:17:02]: Yes, that well that that 5,500 would uh would would be Ms. Samuel's fee. She would serve as as the liaison between the city of Stockbridge and Ghana. She would of course play a critical role in putting together those programs as well. [5:17:02, 5:17:03]: So that's [5:17:06, 5:17:15]: All right. Earlier, um, Miss Samuel, you were going to add some additional comments. Uh uh go right ahead, please, if you had some additional comments that you needed to mention at this time. [5:17:16, 5:17:33]: If you have anything else. Apologies, Mayor. If I did, I don't remember what they were at this time. Okay. Um, I think I was just gonna speak to other relationships around Georgia, but I did address that with um Macon and then I signed off when I was in the middle of a thought earlier. But I think I can see it. Thank you. [5:17:34, 5:17:35]: Okay, no problem. Mr. Thomas, go ahead, sir. [5:17:36, 5:17:38]: Yeah, could you indicate um [5:17:39, 5:17:41]: How many citizens are in [5:17:41, 5:17:45]: Henry County, City of Stock Ridge in the metro area. [5:17:45, 5:17:48]: uh that we will be able to [5:17:48, 5:17:50]: Um a track. [5:17:50, 5:17:52]: And coming to Stark Bridge. [5:17:53, 5:17:58]: uh for any of these projects uh as we go forward. What what is that population? [5:17:58, 5:18:00]: Uh in the metro area. [5:18:03, 5:18:10]: I uh okay, I don't know if there who's uh who's willing to answer that. I don't know if they quite understand the question here. [5:18:11, 5:18:19]: Council Member Thomas, I don't I don't fully under understand. Okay, citizens what what citizens that come from the regions of Ghana, what do you what [5:18:19, 5:18:22]: Is that how how do you pronounce [5:18:22, 5:18:25]: Uh citizens formerly from Guyana. [5:18:26, 5:18:27]: And they [5:18:27, 5:18:31]: Okay. So how how many of them that reside in [5:18:31, 5:18:33]: Henry County or the Metro area. [5:18:34, 5:18:36]: Just trying to look at a base of people. [5:18:37, 5:18:40]: That we would possibly attract to. [5:18:40, 5:18:45]: uh the set of styarbridge for any uh joint venture that we may be partnering with. [5:18:49, 5:18:55]: Council member, I don't know the number of how many Ghanaians, but I can tell you um based on the [5:18:56, 5:18:58]: Amount of West Africans if you're asking for that. [5:18:59, 5:19:03]: I can more so give you a number of West Africans, but I don't know specific. [5:19:03, 5:19:04]: Tughana. [5:19:04, 5:19:10]: Yeah. Um which is why I was saying a lot of the programming would not be specific to Ghana because that would minimize. [5:19:11, 5:19:12]: a population we're looking at. [5:19:13, 5:19:16]: Um to such a small number. So it would have to be the diaspora. [5:19:16, 5:19:18]: And I would open it up to even more than Africa. [5:19:19, 5:19:20]: It would just highlight the relationship. [5:19:21, 5:19:23]: But it wouldn't make sense to only highlight Ghana. [5:19:23, 5:19:30]: Um, because I don't think the numbers would make sense. Right. Well, the thing that attracts me when you talked about uh tourism. [5:19:30, 5:19:31]: Um but [5:19:32, 5:19:32]: Mm-hmm. [5:19:33, 5:19:35]: Hopefully we can we can sort of um [5:19:35, 5:19:39]: follow up with this program, but I I did want to sort of get into the [5:19:39, 5:19:44]: tourism aspect of it, but as you mentioned, it is it is sort of late and [5:19:44, 5:19:46]: I can tell everybody's pretty tired. [5:19:49, 5:19:51]: All right, any other questions uh for Miss Samuel? [5:19:53, 5:20:00]: Uh Mayor, I just wanna thank her for coming out. I think it's a worthwhile endeavor to have uh international and uh [5:20:00, 5:20:18]: You know, I think uh just send us some information on those goals and what the Despair is intended to do. And I think folks can understand it is a broad based international approach uh that may be beneficial to us, especially uh in the museum and the cultural arts center. [5:20:18, 5:20:20]: Where we'll be able to [5:20:20, 5:20:23]: uh probably have a a an exchange [5:20:23, 5:20:24]: Or some type. [5:20:24, 5:20:28]: uh with uh with the with gana [5:20:29, 5:20:44]: So does that mean uh that you, Mayor Pro Tem or someone else, is willing to make a motion to accept this city's sister city of relationship and go forward with this? Uh so move. Okay, is there a second? I second. Ms. Thomas Second, okay. All in favor, please indicate. [5:20:46, 5:20:52]: Okay, three. Uh uh Mr. Blount, uh you oppose or you abstain, abstain. [5:20:57, 5:21:03]: Well, I I I'm not abstain because I just needed more information on how this thing how it works and I'm not clear on that. [5:21:03, 5:21:23]: Maybe Mr. Peterson can I could talk to him sometime. Um sometime this on it. So I mean you got enough to move forward with the uh vote. So uh for me, I just need to get more information on it. So you're you're not like a no vote, I guess you may say. Is that what it is? Well, it's not a no vote, I'm a staining because I don't have enough. Okay, I'm staying cool. Three three zero one, uh motion uh passed. [5:21:23, 5:21:36]: passes. Thank you, Ms. Samuel. And we look forward to uh establishing this relationship and working with Mr. Peterson with the council to do this and and look for great things to happen. Okay. Thank you. Thank you all for having me. You're welcome. More than welcome. Anytime. Thank you. [5:21:37, 5:21:43]: We'll move on. Council consideration to fill the vacancy and appoint a member to the planning commission. Ms. Johnson, please. [5:21:44, 5:21:50]: Good evening, uh Mayor, Council members. Um quickly, um we do have an applicant. [5:21:50, 5:21:57]: for um a possible candidate for our planning commission to replace Ms. Shirley Wallace's position. [5:21:57, 5:22:00]: Uh his name is Rodney Horns. [5:22:00, 5:22:11]: Um, based on his background and his middle, he's a 17-year resident of Stockbridge and has a pretty lengthy background in information technology. [5:22:11, 5:22:23]: He um stated he served on the development authority board some years ago. And um I just want to read a quick um line or two of his submittal. [5:22:24, 5:22:30]: He it says please briefly explain your reasons for wishing to serve on the board or commission you select. [5:22:31, 5:22:32]: He said I would [5:22:32, 5:22:36]: be a great addition to the planning commission. I'm concerned about development in the city. [5:22:37, 5:22:44]: Of Stockbridge, and I'm capable of having an unbiased opinion of what I think will be the best use of land in the city. [5:22:44, 5:22:50]: So I'd like to be a part of that decision-making process to ensure it is developed in progressive fashion. [5:22:50, 5:22:54]: And not oversaturated with one type of business. [5:22:54, 5:22:57]: Uh I spoke with him um earlier. [5:22:57, 5:23:03]: and um kind of got a idea of what he liked to do is kind of summed up in what I just read. [5:23:04, 5:23:14]: So just wanted to bring it before you all as a candidate. And he did mention he'd be willing to do the training, of course, that we do for all new planning commissioners. [5:23:15, 5:23:16]: Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [5:23:16, 5:23:25]: Mayor, I I would like to go ahead and approve ms uh motion to approve Mr. Horn. Second. All right. Any further discussion? If not, all in favor, please indicate. [5:23:27, 5:23:46]: Okay. Is the announced decision? Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Johnson. Okay, so for the next item we have here a resolution to reopen an in-person meetings for the city of Stockbridge. That's the item number 21. Uh and I'd like to ask our attorneys to expound on this, please, since you wrote up the resolution. [5:23:48, 5:23:57]: Yes, I'm subject to whatever terms and conditions that the council wanna put on this. Council had just directed that they wanted to open up for in-person meetings and for [5:23:57, 5:24:03]: the city hall and the building to be open and so that resolution is just a skeleton for them to decide what they want to do for [5:24:04, 5:24:05]: Mayor. [5:24:05, 5:24:05]: Yes, sir. [5:24:06, 5:24:11]: I think they're two separate issues, correct? It is. [5:24:11, 5:24:29]: I think we have I think we have unanimous support on re reopening city hall. So I think we can go ahead and move forward with it. So I'd like to make a motion. Hold on. What's in front of me, sir, is is a resolution to reopen in-person meetings for the city of Stockbridge. In-person meetings, not city hall and the buildings. That's another resolution. [5:24:29, 5:24:39]: I mean I what I have in my hand is a resolution for reopening in-person meetings for the city of Stockbridge. This deals with uh the uh city uh meetings. [5:24:40, 5:24:49]: Right, but there's two of them, right? There's one for that one. That one. Then the other one deals with resolution for reopening City Hall and and the City of Stockbridge with all our municipal buildings. [5:24:49, 5:24:51]: Mayor. Yes, sir. [5:24:51, 5:24:52]: Yes, ma'am, I'm sorry. [5:24:53, 5:24:56]: When um when the agenda was amended. [5:24:56, 5:24:59]: Yeah. The reopening was uh titled number twenty one. [5:25:00, 5:25:12]: And the in-person meetings was title number 22. Oh, is that right? Is that a backward? Yes, sir. Okay, excuse me. Excuse me. In that case, I second I second Mr. Alexander for reopening for the citizens. [5:25:13, 5:25:27]: Okay. All right. Excuse me. All right. So the s resolution reopening city hall back up for it. Yeah, ro reopening over reopening for city hall, right? And the in the rest of the municipality. Slow moved. Okay. And Mr. Blount, you second that, correct? Okay. Any further discussion? [5:25:29, 5:25:31]: Uh yes, Miss Holday. [5:25:33, 5:25:53]: Need a date, please. Tomorrow. No, no, sir. I recommend that we don't do it tomorrow. I'll recommend actually, if you don't mind, that it'll be next Monday. Uh allow allow us for make some adjustments and get everything all lined up. Make sure we're all squared away. Tomorrow I think is a little too quick for the staff to do this. Matter of fact, no staff. Mayor, today is um uh just quick question. Today is [5:25:53, 5:26:13]: money i'm trying to figure what what do we have to just for well well we gotta make sure first of all we give you got we gotta put some uh pleasings in place right i talked about it earlier but we gotta make sure that uh all we got all the right material i talk we talked about talked about earlier in the evening uh we and i talked about this with the staff uh but want to make sure that we have all the things in place in reference to [5:26:13, 5:26:33]: uh having everybody come in. We got to mark all the floors. They haven't been marked yet. And make sure we shift over the items for the entryway and this aspect. So it's some additional things we just have to do. Tomorrow we'd be a little too quick on that because of everything has not been laid out and marked yet because it hasn't had approval. So my recommend [5:26:33, 5:26:53]: recommendation is that we approve it, that uh give the staff enough time to go ahead and lay out everything and and and effectively open up the city hall on uh the following Monday, which will be the 15th, I believe it is. And mayor, the reason I asked you because we're coming into the last of the year and what happened last year is so many people that had to re uh [5:26:53, 5:26:55]: uh renew their permits. [5:26:55, 5:27:15]: It became so convoluted that we was always we were six months in the year and people hadn't even got their got their uh business license renewals. It would I mean we just we're just at the end of the year again and we're just trying to get things moving. That's why I asked, because get things moving and functioning before the end of the year. That's all I have left in that question. So so is that your recommendation? [5:27:15, 5:27:17]: recommendation as city manager. [5:27:17, 5:27:37]: Yes, sir. It is. I mean the 15th. It's funny. It is. Yes, it is. I mean, that's my recommendation. Okay. It's 11, it's 1124. So we're gonna give you the benefit of the doubt, city manager, forward. So that's my recommendation. All right. I appreciate that. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [5:27:39, 5:27:59]: No, thank you. Appreciate it. Oh okay, we uh you've got a all four. Okay, appreciate that. And the next one dealt with the uh resolution involving reopening in-person meetings uh with the city council. So with the city of Stockbridge. So this be all our in-person meetings. If we approve this, this will be for the uh next uh meeting we will have, we'll have an in person in the [5:27:59, 5:28:00]: the council chambers. [5:28:00, 5:28:02]: This is what I would say to that is that [5:28:03, 5:28:07]: I I think we had unanimity on the everybody was for the Obre Hovert in City Hall. [5:28:08, 5:28:10]: But Calcman Thomas has been ve vehement. [5:28:11, 5:28:13]: And I want everybody to be careful be [5:28:13, 5:28:15]: comfortable once we come back into [5:28:16, 5:28:30]: the chamber to to move forward. I'm for reopening City Hall for in-person meeting, but I want every member of this board to be comfortable. We're a team. And if somebody has concerns, I want to talk talk about your concerns, Councilman. [5:28:31, 5:28:32]: I'm o I'm okay. [5:28:35, 5:28:35]: Okay. [5:28:36, 5:28:38]: I'm okay. Okay, good for [5:28:39, 5:28:48]: Yeah, okay. All right. Okay. Well I need a motion, folks. Do to Mayor what's the day? Uh well be the first our next meet uh our next meeting, whatever our if it passes our next meeting. [5:28:49, 5:28:53]: And and if I may, I need the council to understand. [5:28:53, 5:28:57]: That the chamber cameras and everything in that chamber that software. [5:28:58, 5:29:00]: goes to our civic clerk. [5:29:01, 5:29:04]: Streaming software, not to Facebook. [5:29:06, 5:29:07]: It will still be live. [5:29:07, 5:29:09]: But it goes to the [5:29:10, 5:29:27]: um civic clerk software, just so the council is aware. Well, we got 30 days to get somebody to figure out how to send it to Facebook. Even if Shana got to sit in there with a camera or her phone, somebody can do it. Um I I'm simply making you aware of what's currently in your chamber. [5:29:27, 5:29:47]: Okay. Okay, so look, can we s put that in the motion that we would have somebody begin to work on that to make sure that we can go live on Facebook when we do? Uh Mr. Alexander, if we if we do the first in-person meeting on the first Monday of December, that's 30 days to do the system. [5:29:47, 5:29:48]: [19788.5, 19805.2]: right now you only got like a couple of weeks. Well our next meeting is the first Monday. Just a suggestion that we do it the first meeting in December in person. That way it would it would give them IT a chance or do whatever they have to do with the system. I don't know how long that takes. They're not on the call tonight. [5:30:05, 5:30:09]: IT is on the line. Oh they are Yeah, they're always online. [5:30:11, 5:30:23]: Okay. Yeah, I I do recommend that we um have the first in person meeting on the first uh first meeting of December. That way we can reach out to the [5:30:23, 5:30:28]: uh support team for that system as well just to make sure it's working since it has not been active. [5:30:29, 5:30:30]: For over a year. [5:30:30, 5:30:32]: So wanna make sure everything's working and that [5:30:32, 5:30:37]: We uh get efficient video for Facebook because we can put anything up. [5:30:37, 5:30:49]: But it may not be good. That's it. So that'll give us a full month to make sure everything's working appropriately without hiccups. So I do recommend the first meeting of December. [5:30:49, 5:30:53]: And the PIO and the PIO will work with the IT team to ensure that. [5:30:53, 5:30:55]: So move. Okay, is there a second? [5:30:56, 5:30:57]: Second. [5:30:57, 5:31:01]: Okay, uh any further questions? I mean a second. I'm sorry, Miss Barber. [5:31:01, 5:31:09]: Oh, who who's that was your voice, Mr. Blount? Okay, that was your Blount. Okay, I'm sorry. Mayor Protendant uh Councilman Blount. Okay, all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [5:31:10, 5:31:23]: Okay. Okay. Unanimous decision. And that then then on that note that it means our meeting on the thirtieth, our council works on the thirty will still be virtual then if the on on this with the passage of this we'll wait one for one month. Is that that's what I understand? [5:31:24, 5:31:44]: Right, until until the first meeting in December be virtual meeting. So our next meeting on the 30th, our work session scheduled on the 30th would be a virtual meeting. That'd be all okay. Good deal. All right, fantastic. All right, now on to my comments, and I won't be very long with this, obviously. But uh one thing I want to mention is uh COVID-19, of course, is still among us, and by this uh [5:31:44, 5:32:04]: uh actual by this actual uh uh approval that we have done. So we're moving in the light of of getting open things up with our council meetings, of course, with City Hall, and uh and getting the public in so we can have interaction with them. The numbers of the of the COVID-19 have gone down or continue to go down. So hopefully that'll continue to the holiday season, Thanksgiving and Christmas [5:32:04, 5:32:24]: Christmas as well as New Year's. And if you if you've known that the there now, Pfizer now has a vaccination for uh ages five to eleven. So we're now working on our young our young folks or young children to get them vaccinated as well. Uh so we're making movement on that. So hopefully that'll continue on. And uh [5:32:24, 5:32:40]: to continue to encourage people to get vaccinated and to get tested in this aspect as well. Now I won't read out those numbers at this point, but I mean as many as long as we've been in this, people know where to go to get vaccinated and to get their their testing in this aspect. [5:32:41, 5:33:01]: So on that note, this week is Veterans Day. So please uh celebrate Veterans Day and uh say thank a veteran for the time and service of serving the country, keeping us free in this aspect, and uh and wish them well and uh and do all you can to uh at least uh knowledge those veterans out there and uh [5:33:01, 5:33:21]: In this aspect as well. And of course, right behind Veterans Day, we have Thanksgiving. So obviously at the time of Thanksgiving, be thankful thankful for what's who's in your life, what's in your life, and be thankful for the good Lord for all the things you have in your life and spend time with the friends and uh relatives and enjoy yourself and uh and share good stories, obviously. [5:33:21, 5:33:41]: Obviously, and have a good time and with the Thanksgiving holiday. And obviously, this past Tuesday, we had uh we had a vote in an election. So it's fantastic. The citizens in not only Stallbridge but in the county came together and passed the T S Plause. That's a fantastic thing. So for the next five years, ladies and gentlemen, there'll be a lot of different projects. [5:33:41, 5:34:01]: Projects that the city of Stockbridge has put out there for our priorities and things in reference to road structure, spanning roads, sidewalks, paths, street improvements, curve, gutter in the underserved communities, a pedestrian bridge to bring people from the east to west side of the downtown areas who go ahead and continue to redevelop our downtown. [5:34:01, 5:34:16]: So fantastic that they've passed. And there'll be a lot of different uh changes across the entire county in reference to transportation infrastructure and pathways. And maybe we'll get a chance to connect communities, right? And connect people to the downtown and connect to. [5:34:16, 5:34:32]: Polona mountain on those trails. So looking for all that improvement. So that's a great thing to pass. And on that note, Council, I'd like to ask your permission to allow uh Mr. Thomas to say any comments in reference to the community about uh supporting him on his reelection. [5:34:32, 5:34:36]: If that's all right with the council, do you give them a few minutes to speak to that? [5:34:36, 5:34:42]: Yes, uh thank you, Mayor. Okay. Uh I do want to take this opportunity to [5:34:42, 5:34:45]: Uh thank all the citizens. [5:34:45, 5:34:47]: Uh for their uh belief. [5:34:48, 5:34:51]: and support in in my um [5:34:51, 5:35:03]: being re-elected back to the city council. I did put out a statement to all the citizens, but I but I just want to take this opportunity to thank all the citizens. [5:35:03, 5:35:05]: Uh for believing in my truth. [5:35:05, 5:35:08]: And believe it in my uh light. [5:35:08, 5:35:11]: And I want to thank all my supporters. [5:35:11, 5:35:17]: Uh all my team, my campaign manager and all my team for the hard work. [5:35:17, 5:35:20]: uh you know to to to be successful. [5:35:20, 5:35:21]: Um [5:35:21, 5:35:25]: I'm looking forward, y uh you know, and going forward. [5:35:25, 5:35:28]: Uh with the city of Stockbridge. I'm I'm excited about [5:35:29, 5:35:33]: The Stockbridge Police Department, the Cultural Arts Facility and [5:35:33, 5:35:38]: trails and and all of the things that we have sort of laid out, the quality of life. [5:35:39, 5:35:59]: um initiative that we are providing uh to our citizens, all of the things in public works. Um, you know, the whole aspect of moving the city forward. I'm really excited about that. And but again, basically I want to thank all the citizens for believing in me as your representative to to the Stockbridge City Council. [5:35:58, 5:35:59]: Thank you. [5:36:00, 5:36:20]: All right. And I also would like to thank the citizens for re-electing me and give me four more years to serve with this outstanding council and continue to do great things for the citizenry and our constituents in the area. And look forward for a fantastic four years as we continue to grow and move forward and make Stockbridge even greater city is today. And uh look forward for [5:36:20, 5:36:40]: all that advancement and uh passing T Splots will help that whole initiative getting a coach art center online the police department i'll tell you what the next four years will be fantastic and you citizens will be proud of the of the improvements that we do across the board and thank you for allowing me to continue to serve with this council and make these things go forward and God bless us all in this aspect. [5:36:40, 5:36:46]: and uh star braces where community connects and that's exactly what we're doing here on that note i'm gonna talk about yes sir [5:36:47, 5:37:05]: Uh have you done the announcements for the events coming up? I'm correct. I'm doing it right now, sir. I'm gonna do it. I don't know if I don't know if I know well in November. It's on there, sir. It's on there. It's on there. It's on it. Okay, so what we're gonna talk about here now these things are all gonna say by Zoom, but they may eventually eventually change here shortly. But I'll go the youth council meeting. [5:37:05, 5:37:09]: 5 30 by the way of Zoom second Wednesday each month which is November 10th. [5:37:10, 5:37:30]: Uh let's see here. What we have is a main street advisory board meeting, second Friday of each month, 9 a.m. by way of Zoom, which is November 12th. Downtown development authority meeting, 6 p.m. by way of Zoom, third Tuesday of each month, uh November 16th. U Council Advisory meeting, 6:30 by way of Zoom, third Tuesday of each month, which is November. [5:37:30, 5:37:39]: November 16th, City Council work session, budget hearing, second reading, 6 p.m. last Tuesday of each month, which is November 30th. We know that's gonna be by way of uh Zoom. [5:37:39, 5:37:48]: And be virtual planning commission meeting 6 30. Uh revised meeting is uh okay, date to I guess by the way of Zoom on a planning commission meeting December 2nd. [5:37:48, 5:37:53]: U council meeting 530 by way of Zoom, second Wednesday of each month, which is December 8th. [5:37:54, 5:37:58]: Main Street Advisory Board meeting uh by way of Zoom, December 10th. [5:37:58, 5:38:07]: Uh next city council meeting, the final adoption, 6 p.m. on the December 13th. And what we decided at will be in the council chambers. [5:38:07, 5:38:27]: Uh downtown development authority meeting by way of Zoom uh December 21st, which is east uh third Tuesday of each month. U Council Advisory meeting 6:30 by way of Zoom, third Tuesday of each month, which is also December 21st. And planning commission meeting, revised meeting schedule by way of Zoom on December 16th. So some knows by way of Zoom that [5:38:27, 5:38:34]: those particular committees may very well change them since we're changing our policy here. So look forward for any potential changes that may come. [5:38:34, 5:38:54]: Councilman Barber is having a free Zuma fitness class in the park in Merrill Manor's Merrill Manor's Conference Center and right next there. Yeah, Merrill Manor's Conference Center in the park there on Saturdays, uh Saturdays at 8 a.m. in Clark Park Pavilions, A, B, and C. And it gets that song going every each and every [5:38:54, 5:38:59]: Every Saturday and the Stockbridge Annual Veterans Day virtual event this Thursday, November 11th. [5:39:00, 5:39:16]: 11 p.m. by way of uh Facebook Live and YouTube. And so you'll be able to click on the events uh page uh for the stop for the city stop bridge to get there and reserve that a salute to veterans and please uh says here please uh for uh vet pictures of veterans. [5:39:16, 5:39:22]: Name, rank, uh, branch, and near years of service to Councilman Thomas as you present a special tribute to those local veterans. [5:39:23, 5:39:33]: And they send that to Ms. Peterson, Z Peterson at CSstarbridge-G A dot G-O-V. And of course, thank you for your service, veterans on that aspect as well. [5:39:34, 5:39:46]: And connecting Henry, Annual Noel, and the November Toy Drive in partnership with Councilman Blount to take place Thursday, November 18th, 2021, obviously 5 to 7 p.m. at Clark. [5:39:46, 5:39:54]: Community Park located at 111 Davis Road. Please bring unwrapped toys for children in need. Santa will be there as well. [5:39:54, 5:40:14]: And you got opportunity to meet the mayor and voice your questions, concerns Monday, November 22nd, 10 a.m. to noon, and call the city hall and schedule appointment at 70-389-7900. And please support a small local businesses during the entire month of November with a special emphasis on small shop small Saturday. [5:40:14, 5:40:34]: November 27th, Stockbridge Small Business Owners and can register to participate in the Stockbridge Small Business Blitz and Small Business Saturday by contacting the Main Street program office, Main Street at City of Stockbridge-GA.gov, or contacting Lisa Farade at 678-833-3322. [5:40:34, 5:40:35]: two five. [5:40:35, 5:40:42]: And our annual holiday festival, which will be the last city event uh during the course of the year, is Thursday, December 2nd. [5:40:43, 5:40:47]: Five PM to nine p.m. Ameris Conference Center, 111 Davis Road. [5:40:48, 5:40:49]: Uh so look forward to that as well. [5:40:50, 5:40:53]: On that note, ladies and gentlemen, that's all the comments and and uh [5:40:53, 5:41:02]: Notifications, announcements. On that note, I'll I would imagine lateness tonight. We have no items for secondary session. So I ask for a motion to adjourn our meeting. [5:41:03, 5:41:04]: Summer. [5:41:04, 5:41:05]: Is there a second? [5:41:06, 5:41:09]: Is there a second? Okay. All in favor, please indicate. [5:41:11, 5:41:16]: Good evening, folks. Have a good evening. See you soon. Good night.

--- title: Planning Commission Meeting date: 2021-10-28 source: 2021-10-28_Planning_Commission_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:30, 0:00:31]: Hey David, do you hear me? [0:00:36, 0:00:36]: Thank you. [0:00:45, 0:00:46]: What you hear you? [0:00:48, 0:00:50]: Oh, you hear me, Stanley? [0:00:51, 0:00:52]: This is IT. We can hear you, sir. [0:00:53, 0:00:56]: Here's the deal, you guys did not send me [0:00:57, 0:00:57]: Uh [0:00:58, 0:01:00]: My Zoom to my email. [0:01:02, 0:01:03]: David or someone else? [0:01:04, 0:01:06]: So what? This is Harold Thibodeau. [0:01:07, 0:01:12]: Errol Thibodeau, okay, I can go in and send you a link. Would you like your own link or you just want me to change your name? [0:01:12, 0:01:16]: You can just change the name for right now, but I need to find out. [0:01:16, 0:01:19]: Why they're not sending me uh [0:01:20, 0:01:23]: My Zoom, I've checked uh spam, everything. [0:01:23, 0:01:25]: It was never sent to me. [0:01:26, 0:01:30]: Yeah, please email Vanessa Holliday. She's the one who sets these up. [0:01:31, 0:01:34]: Okay. Well I'll do that and find out from her. [0:01:36, 0:01:37]: Sounds good. [0:01:42, 0:01:43]: Y acha e. [0:01:51, 0:01:54]: I see it's just still saying connecting to you. [0:03:20, 0:03:21]: [280.2, 280.9]: Abdullah. [0:04:45, 0:04:46]: Did you hear my duple? [0:04:46, 0:04:47]: Okay. [0:04:47, 0:04:47]: You got me? [0:04:49, 0:04:50]: Hey, uh [0:04:51, 0:04:55]: Tried to call you today, I was unable to get to [0:04:56, 0:04:58]: Mm-hmm. Get a message from me. [0:04:59, 0:05:02]: I've been sleep off and on, man. Uh I've been up so [0:05:03, 0:05:04]: I haven't checked the phone. [0:05:06, 0:05:07]: Okay, uh [0:05:08, 0:05:10]: I was just trying to leave you a message, uh [0:05:12, 0:05:16]: on some information. So I guess uh y when you get a chance, call me. [0:05:17, 0:05:19]: And I'll give you that information. [0:05:19, 0:05:21]: All right. I'll call you soon. This is over. [0:05:22, 0:05:23]: Okay, thank you. Sorry. She's not. [0:05:25, 0:05:25]: Yeah. [0:05:29, 0:05:30]: Good evening. [0:05:31, 0:05:32]: And and planning commissioners. [0:05:33, 0:05:35]: Good evening, Ms. Johnson. [0:05:36, 0:05:37]: How are you all doing tonight? [0:05:38, 0:05:39]: I'm outstanding. [0:05:39, 0:05:40]: Wonderful. [0:05:41, 0:05:42]: How are you? [0:05:45, 0:05:46]: Hey you [0:05:47, 0:05:48]: We die. [0:05:48, 0:05:51]: We actually have a a sh pretty short agenda tonight. [0:05:51, 0:05:56]: And I wanna give you all a couple of project updates at the end. So [0:05:57, 0:05:57]: Um [0:05:58, 0:05:59]: Looking forward to it. [0:06:00, 0:06:01]: Okay. [0:06:18, 0:06:22]: I think someone has music playing in the background if you could [0:06:22, 0:06:25]: That's me, I'm sorry. Oh no worries, no worries. [0:06:28, 0:06:29]: Television. [0:06:29, 0:06:31]: Oh no worries. Thank you. [0:06:47, 0:06:51]: Okay, it is six thirty on the dive. Chairman, are you ready to get started? [0:06:52, 0:06:53]: Yes I am. [0:06:53, 0:06:54]: Um [0:06:56, 0:06:57]: Yeah. [0:06:58, 0:06:59]: We have uh [0:07:00, 0:07:01]: Um [0:07:02, 0:07:03]: Who is Miss Uh Logan? [0:07:05, 0:07:08]: Linda, let's go ahead and get started, ma'am. Well it's six thirty, uh [0:07:09, 0:07:11]: Planning commission meeting is called to order. [0:07:12, 0:07:16]: Um if Ms. Logan can or you, Ms. Johnson, want to call uh [0:07:17, 0:07:18]: Uh [0:07:18, 0:07:22]: Mr. Um Doomish, you wanna do an invocation for us? [0:07:23, 0:07:24]: I will. [0:07:26, 0:07:27]: Let us bow our heads, please. [0:07:29, 0:07:40]: Loving God, as we gather here tonight to do the business of the city of Stockbridge, we invite you, God, into this virtual environment. [0:07:41, 0:07:44]: And we pray, God, that you will uh that we will allow your spirit [0:07:45, 0:07:49]: to rule our hearts, to guide our thoughts. [0:07:49, 0:07:51]: And to control our lives. [0:07:52, 0:07:55]: So that we may continue to be service of all. [0:07:56, 0:07:57]: Amen. [0:07:57, 0:07:58]: Amen. [0:08:00, 0:08:01]: Pledge of allegiance. [0:08:02, 0:08:03]: Place you [0:08:03, 0:08:04]: Hand over your heart. [0:08:06, 0:08:07]: I play it. [0:08:07, 0:08:22]: I fled allegiance to the United States of America to the Republic which is standing liberty. [0:08:27, 0:08:28]: Linda, are you with us yet? [0:08:29, 0:08:32]: Yes, I'm with you. Can you hear me? I give okay, give us a roll call. [0:08:32, 0:08:34]: Okay, ask you Abdullah. [0:08:34, 0:08:35]: Present. [0:08:36, 0:08:37]: Harold Thibodeau. [0:08:37, 0:08:38]: Present. [0:08:39, 0:08:40]: Stanley Domus? [0:08:40, 0:08:41]: Present. [0:08:41, 0:08:43]: Kathleen Nelson. [0:08:43, 0:08:44]: Present. [0:08:46, 0:08:47]: David Planchon. [0:08:47, 0:08:48]: Present. [0:08:49, 0:08:50]: Mr. Chairman, we have quorum. [0:08:51, 0:08:52]: Thank you. [0:08:54, 0:08:55]: Uh if you haven't already. [0:08:55, 0:08:58]: You can read the uh previous minutes from September. [0:08:59, 0:09:00]: Mm-hmm. [0:09:00, 0:09:02]: Yeah, September twenty third. [0:09:06, 0:09:07]: And um [0:09:09, 0:09:11]: If we find no arrows or changes. [0:09:12, 0:09:14]: I have a motion to uh [0:09:15, 0:09:16]: Who does mean? [0:09:16, 0:09:18]: Chairman, you can adopt the agenda first. [0:09:19, 0:09:20]: Oh, I'm sorry. [0:09:21, 0:09:22]: Went right over that. [0:09:22, 0:09:24]: Motion to adopt the agenda. [0:09:24, 0:09:25]: For um [0:09:26, 0:09:27]: October twenty eighth. [0:09:30, 0:09:33]: I make a motion to adopt adopt the agenda for October [0:09:34, 0:09:35]: Twenty eighth. [0:09:35, 0:09:37]: I've sucked it back then. [0:09:38, 0:09:40]: All those in favor, let it be known by the sign of aye. [0:09:41, 0:09:42]: All right. [0:09:42, 0:09:43]: Those opposed. [0:09:45, 0:09:47]: Does have it the um [0:09:47, 0:09:48]: Agenda is adopted. [0:09:49, 0:09:54]: chairman chairman who who seconded because i think i heard two voices at the same time [0:09:54, 0:09:55]: I believe it's Mr. Dummers. [0:09:56, 0:09:59]: I said second also, I'm Harold Tibetan. [0:10:00, 0:10:00]: Okay. [0:10:01, 0:10:02]: This is a tie. [0:10:03, 0:10:04]: Pardon me? [0:10:04, 0:10:06]: It's the tie. We gotta jump it up. [0:10:07, 0:10:12]: Okay. [0:10:13, 0:10:24]: Let's review the minutes from September the twenty-third. Uh and if there are no changes. Pardon me. Mr. Chair, may I speak on that? [0:10:24, 0:10:28]: Changes for that for the minutes for September twenty third. [0:10:28, 0:10:29]: Sure, go ahead. [0:10:31, 0:10:33]: I did mention in the in the [0:10:33, 0:10:37]: in the meeting that uh we we had issues with uh [0:10:37, 0:10:39]: Комерціовіклс [0:10:40, 0:10:41]: passing through a [0:10:41, 0:10:42]: Neighborhood. [0:10:42, 0:10:43]: From [0:10:43, 0:10:44]: Thrive time. [0:10:45, 0:10:49]: I I didn't see any anything mentioned about [0:10:50, 0:10:52]: me relating to the fact that uh [0:10:53, 0:10:57]: We need to eventually somewhere down the road correct a problem. [0:10:58, 0:11:00]: With that subdivision having commercial [0:11:01, 0:11:02]: vehicles running through their entire [0:11:03, 0:11:05]: Subdivision. That that wasn't in there. [0:11:06, 0:11:07]: Okay. [0:11:10, 0:11:11]: Mr. Chairman. [0:11:13, 0:11:14]: Yes, sir. [0:11:14, 0:11:19]: I have uh several corrections to the minutes. [0:11:20, 0:11:23]: And uh before I vote to approve. [0:11:23, 0:11:25]: And then I also have a comment. [0:11:25, 0:11:32]: kind of pick it back in on what Mr. Thibodeau has already articulated, but I'll I'll go over the corrections first. [0:11:33, 0:11:37]: Uh, because I think they need to happen before we approve them. [0:11:37, 0:11:41]: Uh item number five with the adoption of the agenda. [0:11:42, 0:11:56]: I it reads the motion to adopt by Mr. Thibodeau, second by Mr. Nelson. Pass 5-0. Well, that's incorrect. We should substitute the Dumas for Thibodeau in that sentence. [0:11:58, 0:12:12]: Uh item number six, approval of the minutes. Uh it reads uh motion to adopt by Ms. Nelson Secker by Mr. Thibodeau. It should read uh [0:12:13, 0:12:16]: Motion by Ms. Nelson, second by Mr. Dumas. [0:12:20, 0:12:23]: And I hope, uh, Madam Secretary, you'll get in these corrections. [0:12:26, 0:12:45]: Item number seven, approval of minutes. It reads uh adopted a motion to adopt by Mr. Thibodeau, second by Mr. Plancher. It should read motion to adopt by Mr. Dumas, second by Mr. Plancher. [0:12:47, 0:12:50]: And item number eight. [0:12:51, 0:12:52]: Election of officers [0:12:54, 0:12:55]: In the second paragraph [0:12:56, 0:13:04]: It reads Chairman Abdullah nominated himself as chairman. Mr. Thibodeau asked for clarification. [0:13:05, 0:13:13]: It should read uh Mr. Doodle nominated himself as chairman. Mr. Dumas asked for clarification. [0:13:14, 0:13:15]: Okay. [0:13:15, 0:13:18]: Then in the final paragraph of that same section. [0:13:20, 0:13:22]: It reads oh [0:13:25, 0:13:31]: Chairman Abdullah stated that he would like to have a vote on vice chairman for the remainder of twenty twenty one. [0:13:31, 0:13:34]: And he nominated Mr. Thibodeau to serve. [0:13:34, 0:13:36]: Mr. Doom has provided the second. [0:13:37, 0:13:41]: That should read Mr. Thibodeau provided the second. [0:13:44, 0:13:48]: So I think we gotta get Mr. Tibetou a ca a camera, uh uh audio. [0:13:48, 0:13:52]: a video because they seem to be confusing him and I. [0:13:54, 0:14:06]: Uh could I just state that we had actually three people taking minutes this time and um and I've just say for myself that I can't always tell who's speaking and it would be helpful if [0:14:07, 0:14:10]: If each person would identify himself or herself. [0:14:12, 0:14:13]: So that we can get [0:14:14, 0:14:15]: Correct. [0:14:15, 0:14:16]: People written down. [0:14:17, 0:14:21]: As far as I agree with you, Miss Logan, that we should say who we are when we make [0:14:21, 0:14:22]: Whatever. [0:14:22, 0:14:24]: statement of situation. [0:14:24, 0:14:28]: Oh, so that that'd be my Christmas present, getting me a new computer. [0:14:29, 0:14:29]: Yeah. Yeah. [0:14:30, 0:14:41]: All right. So I I personally am trying to write notes as fast as I can and trying to look at my paper and then look at the screen to see who's speaking at the same time as [0:14:41, 0:14:43]: Not always that easy. [0:14:44, 0:14:45]: You have a tape recorder? [0:14:46, 0:14:53]: Uh yes, and um I listened to the minutes and so did um we had another person as well. [0:14:53, 0:14:55]: So uh Mr. Chairman, if I may. [0:14:55, 0:15:15]: What we will do to ensure that we get the correct individuals that have made motions and seconds, we will verify that at after each vote to verify who has done the motion, who has done the second. And that is our responsibility on the staff side. But we'll we'll make sure that that happens at the next as we go through this process. [0:15:15, 0:15:19]: Tonight for votes and I'm calling for [0:15:20, 0:15:22]: Okay, is that all, Mr. Dumas? [0:15:22, 0:15:28]: I agree. It is in terms of corrections. I did have a comment to make. [0:15:29, 0:15:32]: But uh in light of what's been said. [0:15:33, 0:15:36]: I'm kind of inclined to just hold on and [0:15:37, 0:15:38]: Lady Riot. [0:15:38, 0:15:39]: Okay. [0:15:39, 0:15:45]: That being said, we uh made the correction that Mr. Dumas um [0:15:45, 0:15:46]: Just point it out. [0:15:46, 0:15:51]: Have a motion to adopt of the uh September twenty-third amendments as amended. [0:15:52, 0:15:58]: Uh Mr. Chair, I have one more item to say to that. Sure. You stated what Mr. Doom is said. [0:15:59, 0:16:03]: But also you need to state what I've said also for correction. [0:16:03, 0:16:04]: In the minute. [0:16:05, 0:16:07]: September twenty third. [0:16:07, 0:16:07]: Okay. [0:16:08, 0:16:11]: The amendments um noted by Mr. Domas and Mr. Thibodeau. [0:16:12, 0:16:17]: Uh the minutes will be uh adopted based on those changes, those corrections. [0:16:17, 0:16:19]: May I have a motion to uh [0:16:20, 0:16:23]: Adopt those minutes from the September twenty third. [0:16:24, 0:16:34]: This is Mr. Dumas. I do move to adopt the minutes with the uh changes, the corrections that has been articulated by myself and Mr. Thibodeau. [0:16:35, 0:16:37]: No, this is Ms. Nelson. I second that. [0:16:38, 0:16:38]: Motion. [0:16:38, 0:16:40]: It's been moved and second. [0:16:40, 0:16:43]: All those in favor, let it body be known by the sign of aye. [0:16:43, 0:16:46]: I suppose. [0:16:46, 0:16:49]: The eyes have it, the uh Septon twenty-third minutes. [0:16:50, 0:16:51]: Adopted as amended. [0:16:54, 0:17:00]: May I ask whether um they still need to be um have a typed correction made to them? [0:17:02, 0:17:04]: Yeah, that's a this is not a [0:17:05, 0:17:06]: Public record. [0:17:06, 0:17:09]: Yeah, matter of public records. So yeah, you have to do that. [0:17:12, 0:17:13]: Thank you, Chairman. [0:17:14, 0:17:16]: Okay. Um excited. [0:17:17, 0:17:19]: That's it for September twenty third. [0:17:20, 0:17:20]: Five minutes. [0:17:21, 0:17:24]: Uh we got new business. [0:17:27, 0:17:31]: We have a recombination plat application for quick trip. [0:17:31, 0:17:32]: Um [0:17:32, 0:17:35]: This requires a decision to approve or disapprove the [0:17:35, 0:17:37]: proposed recombination plat. [0:17:38, 0:17:41]: Case numbers RC two oh two one hyphen oh one [0:17:41, 0:17:43]: recombination plat application. [0:17:44, 0:17:48]: For property at the southeast corner of Eagles Landing Parkway and Patrick Henry Parkway. [0:17:48, 0:17:51]: The applicant is Eric Bickus of Quick Trip. [0:17:51, 0:17:54]: And the property owner is Eagles Landing Partners L L C. [0:17:55, 0:17:59]: They propose to combine parts of three parcels with a fourth parcel to allow for the development [0:18:00, 0:18:02]: Of a quick trip gas station and convenience store. [0:18:03, 0:18:04]: Two new parcels would be created. [0:18:05, 0:18:07]: With quick trip to purchase and use only one of them. [0:18:07, 0:18:10]: The four existing parcels contain a total. [0:18:10, 0:18:12]: Of two point five four acres. [0:18:12, 0:18:15]: And they are identified as follows. Number one. [0:18:15, 0:18:19]: Parcel number O five one, hyphen O one oh one one thousand. [0:18:19, 0:18:26]: with point oh five with point five nine six acres. This is located at twelve thirty nine Eagles Landing. [0:18:27, 0:18:29]: In landlot twenty of district six. [0:18:30, 0:18:30]: Number two. [0:18:31, 0:18:35]: Parcel number 051, hyphen 0101-1023. [0:18:35, 0:18:37]: With point four seven three acres. [0:18:38, 0:18:42]: Located at 1235 Eagles Landing Parkway in late land lot twenty. [0:18:42, 0:18:43]: Of district six. [0:18:44, 0:18:53]: Number three. Then before you continue, will you go ahead and uh pull up the PowerPoint so we can they can follow along with each of the parcels that you're identifying? [0:18:55, 0:18:57]: Mm. Would you mind sharing your screen? [0:18:59, 0:19:03]: Okay, I was gonna read it again when I got to it. I'm just right now I'm just reading it for the record. [0:19:04, 0:19:05]: Um [0:19:07, 0:19:08]: Let's see. [0:19:20, 0:19:21]: Mm-hmm. [0:19:27, 0:19:30]: It says I'm screen sharing and I have my PowerPoint open. [0:19:32, 0:19:34]: Here they can see see that. [0:19:35, 0:19:36]: We can now, yes. [0:19:37, 0:19:37]: Right. [0:19:38, 0:19:40]: There's a list of the parcels. [0:19:40, 0:19:44]: So again, for the record, number three was oh five parcel number 051. [0:19:45, 0:19:50]: Python 010111002 with 1.130 acres. [0:19:51, 0:19:55]: Located at twelve thirty-one Eagles Landing Parkway in Land Lot 20 of District Six. [0:19:56, 0:20:01]: And number four, parcel number O five one, hyphen O one oh five three thousand. [0:20:01, 0:20:03]: With point three four one acres. [0:20:03, 0:20:09]: Located in front of twelve thirty-one and twelve thirty-nine Eagles Landing Parkway in land lot twenty. [0:20:09, 0:20:10]: Of district six. [0:20:11, 0:20:12]: I'll start at the beginning. [0:20:13, 0:20:16]: Um again this is proposed recombination plat for quick trip. [0:20:16, 0:20:18]: I've given the uh location. [0:20:19, 0:20:20]: Um [0:20:21, 0:20:25]: And the applicant and applicant is QuickTrip Eric Bickus, the agent. [0:20:26, 0:20:30]: Property owner equals landing partners LLC owns all four parcels. [0:20:30, 0:20:32]: comprising the proposed development site. [0:20:33, 0:20:38]: Um they actually could have the four parcels that they want to wind up with two parcels to do that. [0:20:38, 0:20:41]: is a little bit technical where they're combining three parcels and [0:20:42, 0:20:45]: So on. The main thing is they're going from four parcels to two. [0:20:45, 0:20:47]: And they um [0:20:47, 0:20:48]: Property owner. [0:20:48, 0:20:50]: Would keep one of the [0:20:50, 0:20:53]: Um new parcels and then quick trip would [0:20:53, 0:20:55]: Uh purchase and utilize the other one. [0:20:55, 0:20:56]: Um [0:20:56, 0:21:00]: Quick trip with purchal purchase one point four eight two acres. [0:21:00, 0:21:04]: uh remainder will be left over for the property owner. Here's a list of the parcels again. [0:21:05, 0:21:07]: All part four parcels are zone C two general [0:21:08, 0:21:10]: commercial which allows the proposed use. [0:21:12, 0:21:16]: Here's an aerial photo of the vicinity. We have the interstate highways here. [0:21:17, 0:21:20]: uh Eagles Landing Parkway this way. [0:21:20, 0:21:21]: Rock Quarry Road here. [0:21:22, 0:21:22]: Um [0:21:23, 0:21:24]: The site is this [0:21:25, 0:21:26]: Dirt corner right here. [0:21:27, 0:21:29]: Uh four parcels in here. I have another [0:21:30, 0:21:34]: uh slide here. It is mostly a dirt embankment at this time. [0:21:35, 0:21:37]: Uh that's just what it looks like. [0:21:37, 0:21:38]: And [0:21:39, 0:21:43]: Here's another view uh from from Eagles Landing Parkway. You can see this embankment here. [0:21:44, 0:21:46]: I I think it was um [0:21:46, 0:21:49]: Been this way for a long time is what I've been told and it [0:21:50, 0:21:51]: Maybe left over from [0:21:51, 0:21:53]: Someone who had proposed to build and [0:21:54, 0:21:55]: Decided not to [0:21:55, 0:21:58]: This is from Patrick Henry Parkway here. [0:21:58, 0:22:02]: And w and that's a retaining wall. What you're looking at this driveway serves [0:22:02, 0:22:04]: An adjacent um [0:22:04, 0:22:05]: Office building. [0:22:07, 0:22:09]: Linda, may I speak on that? [0:22:09, 0:22:10]: For a moment. [0:22:10, 0:22:11]: Okay. [0:22:11, 0:22:14]: That that parsa used to be an office building. [0:22:15, 0:22:18]: And they tore it down and they used the dirt. [0:22:19, 0:22:21]: to make that Patrick Henry [0:22:22, 0:22:24]: Area uh to build up that area. [0:22:25, 0:22:29]: Uh that's what happened to that particular piece of property right there. It [0:22:30, 0:22:33]: It wasn't vacant, they bought it out and then they used the dirt. [0:22:35, 0:22:37]: About how about when did that happen? [0:22:38, 0:22:41]: I it's years within the past ten years, uh [0:22:42, 0:22:46]: I was overseas in Iraq, but that's what happened. There used to be a office building on top of that whole [0:22:47, 0:22:49]: parcel of land that you're looking at. [0:22:51, 0:22:52]: And they tore the office buildings down? [0:22:53, 0:22:54]: That's correct. [0:22:56, 0:22:57]: Mm-hmm. [0:22:58, 0:23:05]: Okay, uh we have a GIS zoning map and here you can see this is the corner, these different parcels. [0:23:05, 0:23:07]: Shown in this orange roll zone. [0:23:07, 0:23:09]: R a C two. [0:23:10, 0:23:12]: Most of the areas zone C two. [0:23:12, 0:23:14]: Except for that one right there. [0:23:15, 0:23:17]: Um you can see the parcels again here. [0:23:17, 0:23:18]: Outline in blue. [0:23:19, 0:23:20]: Um [0:23:21, 0:23:24]: Anyway, the applicant has submitted this um [0:23:25, 0:23:36]: drawing here, the survey, um, the black line is what they're hoping to accomplish. They're not gonna use QuickTrip is not gonna use all of the property. [0:23:36, 0:23:39]: They only want to use what's shown in this black line here. [0:23:39, 0:23:40]: Black outline. [0:23:41, 0:23:45]: water and this part here that's left over, the property owner will keep. [0:23:45, 0:23:51]: Now the colors are the individual parcels and you can see that that some of them would be split apart. [0:23:51, 0:23:53]: to form the two new parcels. [0:23:54, 0:23:57]: Anyway, um and this will be the result here, the plaque. [0:23:57, 0:24:00]: This is what they will want to record. Now we've had um [0:24:01, 0:24:06]: uh our engineer to do um review of this plat and [0:24:06, 0:24:13]: Um he's fine with it. So these are the two parcels, one right here that Quick Trip would use, and then the remaining one that would [0:24:14, 0:24:15]: property owner would keep. [0:24:15, 0:24:16]: Maintain. [0:24:17, 0:24:19]: Uh there's a site plan here. [0:24:19, 0:24:23]: Uh the main driveway would come as Eagles Landing Parkway at the bottom. [0:24:24, 0:24:30]: Patrick Inning Parkway here. You're actually looking um at the top is south and at the bottom is north. [0:24:31, 0:24:33]: That by the this arrow here. [0:24:34, 0:24:34]: Roughly. [0:24:35, 0:24:39]: Anyway, so main driveway would come off of Eagles Landing Parkway. [0:24:39, 0:24:42]: Cars would circulate around in here, the building. [0:24:42, 0:24:46]: convenience store building would be here and the pumps in front of it. [0:24:46, 0:24:48]: And um there is a [0:24:49, 0:24:51]: The two retaining walls, one here at the back. [0:24:51, 0:24:53]: One on the side here. [0:24:53, 0:24:54]: And um [0:24:55, 0:25:03]: Anyway, the engineer has done a preliminary review of that as well. We've informed the applicant that they may not. [0:25:03, 0:25:04]: Um [0:25:04, 0:25:06]: Have um [0:25:06, 0:25:09]: approval of land disturbance permit until [0:25:09, 0:25:11]: Such time as [0:25:11, 0:25:13]: The new plat is officially recorded. [0:25:14, 0:25:34]: So anyway, um here's our analysis. So um the qualifications for this proposal, all four parcels need to have the same property owner and they do. All four parcels need to have the same zoning classification and they do. The preliminary plat needs to be proved by planning and zoning, so I reviewed it, it was, and preliminary plat. [0:25:34, 0:25:49]: needs to be approved by this city engineer and it was so all four qualifications have been met we therefore recommend approval the one stipulation is what I just mentioned no land disturbance permit or building permit may be issued by the city [0:25:49, 0:25:55]: until applicant submits proof that the plat has been officially recorded by Henry County Superior Court. [0:25:56, 0:25:57]: Are there any questions? [0:25:58, 0:26:04]: Yes, uh this is Mr. Dumas. Uh my question is either for you, Linda, or for the applicant. [0:26:05, 0:26:05]: Oh [0:26:06, 0:26:15]: Less than well, approximately six tenths of a mile to the southwest of this site is an existing quick trip. [0:26:16, 0:26:19]: Vince stall slash service station, if you will. [0:26:20, 0:26:35]: And I'm wondering, I'm wondering, uh and this has nothing to do with the proving it or disapproving it, but just wanting to know what's going on in the community. Is this gonna be a replacement and and that station will close or? [0:26:35, 0:26:41]: Is this designed to compete with the gastation less than a half a mile away? [0:26:42, 0:26:49]: Is that in the located here in this photo somewhere? Just to the west or across the freeway. [0:26:49, 0:26:55]: There's a Walmart on that corner. Oh, that Walmart. There's a quick trip already existing. [0:26:56, 0:27:00]: And and the distance between the two sites is about six tenths of a mile. [0:27:01, 0:27:03]: Maybe the applicant would like to address that. [0:27:07, 0:27:08]: Mr. Bakers? [0:27:17, 0:27:19]: Do I need to stop sharing my screen for someone else's speech? [0:27:20, 0:27:20]: Oh. [0:27:21, 0:27:22]: Well, let me say this. [0:27:23, 0:27:24]: It's not uncommon to have [0:27:26, 0:27:35]: service stations and uh convenience stores in their close proximity. If you look to the south of there at Rock Quarry and um [0:27:37, 0:27:39]: Jodicum, there's a similar situation there. [0:27:40, 0:27:46]: In fact, you have three service stations there. And basically it depends on what the market value for that particular. [0:27:47, 0:27:49]: uh entity is. Um [0:27:50, 0:27:54]: Some people like um chevron, some people like shell. [0:27:54, 0:27:59]: And that's the situation j immediately south of it, approximately two miles. Like I said, said Jodico. [0:28:00, 0:28:01]: And uh Rock Quarry. [0:28:02, 0:28:11]: So uh I don't see any particular conflict with that. I mean, if they want to reduce their market share or split their market share by having a similar station. [0:28:11, 0:28:13]: Uh within a mile, so be it. [0:28:14, 0:28:17]: Uh they also they they they they have the qualifications for [0:28:18, 0:28:20]: uh establishing the uh facility there. [0:28:21, 0:28:24]: And uh I wouldn't I wouldn't oppose that. [0:28:25, 0:28:30]: And if there is a possibility that they may have internally decided they're gonna close that station down for whatever reason. [0:28:31, 0:28:32]: We don't know that. We're not privy to that. [0:28:35, 0:28:36]: Um Mr. President Massby. [0:28:37, 0:28:37]: Sure. [0:28:38, 0:28:44]: Uh there there is a a racetrack down the road from that. That's that's really not that far. So I [0:28:45, 0:28:46]: I guess in reality the [0:28:47, 0:28:52]: Uh, when you consider across the freeway and on the other side of the freeway. [0:28:52, 0:28:57]: uh they may be after the market share that which is on that side of the free grade. [0:28:57, 0:29:01]: versus the other quick trip on the other side. So [0:29:01, 0:29:05]: If you go into some of the high end neighborhoods. [0:29:05, 0:29:07]: You you'll find uh [0:29:07, 0:29:10]: That a lot of stations are not that for and [0:29:11, 0:29:12]: From each other, especially [0:29:12, 0:29:16]: If there's a lot of construction going on in the area. [0:29:17, 0:29:19]: There's there's another possibility. [0:29:20, 0:29:23]: uh exiting off seventy five. [0:29:23, 0:29:27]: If you're gonna continue south, you automatically go right to to that station. [0:29:27, 0:29:29]: And if you're gonna go north. [0:29:29, 0:29:42]: You would come east and use that station. I mean, I'm I'm just speculating. I don't know. I'm saying, but people look at the convenience factor of how far they have to travel to get gas, et cetera, and how close that station is to the expressway, to uh highway or whatever you want to call it. [0:29:43, 0:29:46]: And so that's a possibility. We don't know. We're not privy to their internal thinking. [0:29:47, 0:29:49]: or analysis in terms of addressing that issue. [0:29:50, 0:29:52]: And that's our part of this application. [0:29:54, 0:29:56]: Mr. Chairman, may I please? [0:29:57, 0:30:02]: This is Mr. Dumas again. I I didn't uh realize that my question was gonna generate [0:30:03, 0:30:06]: So much commentary and question wasn't asked. [0:30:07, 0:30:22]: to form an opinion of whether to approve, vote to approve or disapprove. The question was just, and I thought I qualified that by just wanting to know what's going on in the neighborhood in terms of businesses closing or not closing. [0:30:23, 0:30:30]: New business is coming in, or if this station was designed to replace the one to the south. [0:30:31, 0:30:40]: Or if if it was going to compete. It was just a general question. It it had no bearing on what my feelings are about whether to vote for this or not. [0:30:41, 0:30:47]: Again, I said this that's the internal thing with them. So and that's also not part of it. And that's why I asked the question to the applicant. [0:30:48, 0:30:51]: Mr. Chairman, this is Dave Planchin, real quick. [0:30:52, 0:30:55]: We're here just to discuss the zoning. Is that is that correct? [0:30:56, 0:30:58]: Not actually what's going to be built there. [0:30:59, 0:31:02]: That's absolutely correct. And I just seen Mr. Bickis. [0:31:02, 0:31:05]: From Quick Trip, maybe he can address those issues. [0:31:06, 0:31:07]: Absolutely. Um [0:31:07, 0:31:08]: Can you guys hear me now? [0:31:09, 0:31:09]: Sure, yeah. [0:31:10, 0:31:11]: Sorry about that. I had [0:31:12, 0:31:18]: uh technical difficulties. Um the uh existing Quick Trip store um 100% will remain open. [0:31:19, 0:31:38]: Um, what you may see in the future after we uh uh build and develop the proposed Quick Trip is us going back and remodeling uh or knocking down the older store and replacing it with a new one. But um our internal analysis has shown that the traffic patterns are different, therefore we intend to keep both stores open. [0:31:39, 0:31:40]: Thank you. [0:31:47, 0:31:49]: Okay, Mr. Logan is anything further? [0:31:50, 0:32:02]: I just wanted to clarify a comment that was m made a moment ago. We're not discussing the zoning per se of this property. The question at hand is whether to approve the proposed combination. [0:32:02, 0:32:05]: Of from four parcels to two parcels. [0:32:06, 0:32:10]: So that QuickTrip may use one of the parcels to build this new QuickTrip station. [0:32:12, 0:32:15]: Well, let me put this a to sort of [0:32:16, 0:32:17]: to the board. [0:32:17, 0:32:20]: Anybody have any other questions regarding this application? [0:32:22, 0:32:23]: Permission to speak, Mr. Chairman. [0:32:23, 0:32:24]: This is Miss Nelson. [0:32:26, 0:32:32]: So I understand I understand we're only discussing the zoning of, you know, the combination of the two parcels. [0:32:32, 0:32:35]: However, it's with the intent that there will be uh [0:32:36, 0:32:36]: Trip built. [0:32:37, 0:32:42]: Um so i k i I I is has there been any discussion? [0:32:42, 0:32:43]: Um [0:32:43, 0:32:44]: About [0:32:44, 0:32:50]: what they will do in terms of congestion and traffic. That that's kind of a congested area right there. [0:32:50, 0:32:53]: You've got the food mart that we were talking about in [0:32:53, 0:32:56]: with the other gas station, you've got Chick-fil-A right in there. [0:32:57, 0:33:03]: Um, you know, so that that's kind of a congested area. So has there been any discussion of what they're gonna do about [0:33:04, 0:33:04]: Uh [0:33:04, 0:33:06]: you know, traffic in that area. [0:33:06, 0:33:09]: Uh thank you. With the addition of the quick mark. [0:33:10, 0:33:13]: Yeah, I think in the application they say you're gonna have ingress. [0:33:13, 0:33:18]: Off uh Rock Quarry Road and also off Eagles Landing. Is that right, Mr. Vickers? [0:33:19, 0:33:24]: Yes, in addition to that, we'll have a full access point on Country Club Drive as well. [0:33:25, 0:33:26]: Okay. [0:33:26, 0:33:27]: So [0:33:27, 0:33:29]: That'll address the traffic issue. [0:33:30, 0:33:32]: There would actually be three. [0:33:32, 0:33:35]: Access is the main one on Ingles Landing Parkway. [0:33:35, 0:33:37]: And the a secondary one, um [0:33:38, 0:33:40]: Uh go will go use a [0:33:40, 0:33:41]: Driveway of the [0:33:42, 0:33:48]: Office building to the rear out to Patrick Henry Parkway, and then there will be a third internal access. [0:33:49, 0:33:50]: Going to the east. [0:33:51, 0:33:53]: Which will connect with adjacent office park. [0:33:54, 0:33:54]: Yeah. [0:33:57, 0:33:59]: And I had the uh fire marshal to review this and [0:34:00, 0:34:01]: He's fine with it. [0:34:02, 0:34:02]: Yeah. [0:34:03, 0:34:04]: Call from [0:34:05, 0:34:15]: Any other questions? Uh one thing good about that situation on that corner. [0:34:15, 0:34:16]: Uh [0:34:16, 0:34:20]: being that they have mediums in the roadway. [0:34:20, 0:34:27]: Uh they're gonna have a better control of uh of entry and exit on that particular piece of property. [0:34:29, 0:34:40]: And then you have the back end yourself. You come out of Eagles Land and you can't turn to the left. You gotta go to the right. Exactly. So so we have some informal. Yep, you have an option to go. [0:34:40, 0:34:42]: East or west or straight ahead. So [0:34:43, 0:34:49]: Uh those are controlled by traffic signals already. So I don't see that as being uh a real concern at this point. [0:34:49, 0:34:53]: No, I'm saying it's not a problem because the egress and entry [0:34:54, 0:34:58]: will be controlled in in in a lot of ways that that [0:34:58, 0:35:03]: You won't enter a lot of traffic into the mainstream is what I'm basically saying. [0:35:04, 0:35:05]: Okay. [0:35:11, 0:35:12]: Any further discussion? [0:35:13, 0:35:19]: Mr. Chairman, this is uh Mr. Dunwiss, and I'm prepared to make a motion to approve this. [0:35:23, 0:35:25]: Mr. Doans has made a motion for approval. Is there a second? [0:35:26, 0:35:29]: Yeah, this is Harold Thibodeau and I'll second it. [0:35:30, 0:35:34]: Okay, it's been moved and second. All those in favor, let it be known by the sign of aye. [0:35:35, 0:35:36]: All right. [0:35:37, 0:35:38]: Those opposed? [0:35:39, 0:35:45]: I was have it, the motion is carried, the approval, the uh uh approval for the recombination. [0:35:46, 0:35:47]: has been approved. [0:35:49, 0:35:50]: Thank you guys. [0:35:51, 0:35:51]: Okay. [0:35:53, 0:35:54]: Uh [0:35:54, 0:35:56]: That's it for the agenda. [0:35:57, 0:36:01]: Um I think Ms Johnson had something to say. [0:36:02, 0:36:03]: Following this. [0:36:03, 0:36:21]: Yes, uh thank you, Chairman. Um so I I have a couple project updates and a couple staff comments. Um as it pertains to um project updates, I want to just make you all aware that uh the bridges at Jodico has a project of [0:36:22, 0:36:30]: 306 apartments and about 6200 square feet of commercial space for mixed use. [0:36:31, 0:36:36]: So I wanna make sure I'm at the right location. You're making a reference to the property. [0:36:37, 0:36:42]: South of uh uh of uh Eagles Landing at Jodeco and the Expressway. [0:36:43, 0:37:03]: Yes, but but Johtoco, Johako Road, yes, on the just south of Johtoco Road north of the Atlantic. And um the the project they've submitted for the 306 units is about 16 buildings. There's a couple garages, clubhouse, and other amenities. So there will likely be a groundbreaking, I would think, in the next couple. [0:37:02, 0:37:22]: Couple of weeks that the uh that the developer is scheduling with our uh public information officer and the mayor's office. So I will keep you abreast on those dates. Also, um the unified development code that you all approved at the last. [0:37:22, 0:37:40]: hearing um has been has gone to the city council first reading it will go for its second likely in january the legal staff wants to finalize their review and take a little bit closer look at some of the uh concerns that [0:37:41, 0:38:01]: either have come up since we had the first reading or other items that they want to just ensure that we are maintaining our our legal um ability to defend our our code. So they will be reviewing that I will keep you all updated on any changes. But at this point it'll be [0:38:01, 0:38:05]: go before the city council for the second reading and approval. [0:38:05, 0:38:08]: Ms. Johnson, will the fundament when that's finished, will that be [0:38:09, 0:38:10]: Codified and published. [0:38:11, 0:38:18]: Absolutely. And I'll make sure that if you would like a hard copy, I'll provide a hard copy. We will have digital copies available to you as well. [0:38:19, 0:38:39]: I don't know if you if you all have been able to look through the table of contents is is going to be really great because as you click on a section, it'll take on the section number is gonna take you directly to that section in the code. So you're not having to scroll through hundreds of pages of material to find what you're looking for. And that's part of making. [0:38:39, 0:38:47]: It user-friendly for our effective officials, appointed officials, our staff, and our developers who are reviewing it. [0:38:48, 0:39:08]: So that kind of concludes uh oh Davidson Parkway. So the Davidson Parkway um DRI I think was recommended for denial at the last meeting. It uh was scheduled to go to the city council at the last at this past Tuesday's meeting. However, the applicant requested to defer it. [0:39:08, 0:39:11]: it to the November eighth agenda. [0:39:11, 0:39:18]: So that they have more time to speak with the public, with the community, with another potential uh business. [0:39:18, 0:39:37]: Califer just south, located south of the property, and um and have discussions before they brought it back to the city. So we've uh yet to get all of that information yet, but when we do, we will share that as well. I try to always keep you all up to date on new projects. [0:39:38, 0:39:41]: What's you know, going through the groundbreaking process. [0:39:42, 0:39:47]: what we have um new businesses and things like that so i'll be preparing um a report [0:39:47, 0:39:49]: For our next meeting. [0:39:50, 0:39:51]: For next year. [0:39:52, 0:39:58]: And uh that concludes my uh comments and project updates. [0:39:59, 0:40:00]: Thank you, Mr. Johnson. [0:40:01, 0:40:02]: Absolutely. [0:40:03, 0:40:05]: That being said [0:40:05, 0:40:07]: Yeah, we have a motion to adjourn. [0:40:07, 0:40:09]: I mentioned one other thing. [0:40:09, 0:40:10]: Five minutes. [0:40:10, 0:40:13]: Can I mention one other thing? Sure. [0:40:14, 0:40:18]: Uh we wanted at some point to discuss the bylaws, but and not before we can [0:40:19, 0:40:21]: Discuss that at a formal meeting. [0:40:21, 0:40:22]: Um [0:40:22, 0:40:23]: Well, wanna have some [0:40:24, 0:40:24]: Um [0:40:25, 0:40:30]: Informal reviews, maybe with two or three of each of you at one time and [0:40:31, 0:40:33]: Mr. Abdullah, if if you would wanna [0:40:34, 0:40:37]: Think about when you might want to hold those meetings. [0:40:38, 0:40:40]: Well I'll let you schedule those meetings so that it's uh [0:40:42, 0:40:44]: uh convenient for all of us, but um [0:40:45, 0:40:49]: It it was done only sometime sometime after the November eighth meeting. [0:40:50, 0:40:56]: Because Johnson said we're not having another meeting after that until January. So I think after the November meeting. [0:40:57, 0:41:04]: We could uh uh get together. Unless the we don't have anything in the hopper at this moment, but if we do have something in [0:41:04, 0:41:12]: Uh we will have a December meeting, but we won't know until our deadline of November fourth, which is our cutoff for any application to be heard. [0:41:13, 0:41:17]: So we'll keep you all posted. Um and then one final thing. [0:41:18, 0:41:23]: Um I know that we've been uh the council was hoping to bring on or just [0:41:26, 0:41:26]: You broke up. [0:41:35, 0:41:36]: Ms. Johnson. [0:41:37, 0:41:44]: a planning commissioner to place and um hopefully by the new year we'll have have that that [0:41:44, 0:41:46]: Um seat replaced. [0:41:47, 0:41:51]: Uh our next meeting is scheduled for December the second and we do have a [0:41:52, 0:41:52]: Um [0:41:53, 0:41:54]: Resoling case. [0:41:55, 0:41:57]: That is scheduled to be heard then. [0:41:58, 0:41:59]: Uh Chairman. [0:41:59, 0:42:04]: Sure. Yes, Mr. Dumas. Uh I have a question for Ms. Logan. [0:42:05, 0:42:11]: I'm curious to know since we've already adopted and voted on the uh bylaws. [0:42:12, 0:42:14]: I think that was done back in [0:42:14, 0:42:17]: Two thousand seventeen, I believe. [0:42:18, 0:42:22]: What is it that we um need to meet about uh [0:42:23, 0:42:24]: I'm I'm I'm confused. [0:42:24, 0:42:32]: Well, um at the last meeting it was discovered that we have not been voting annually on uh members. [0:42:32, 0:42:35]: positions chairman, vice chairman, secretary, whatever. [0:42:35, 0:42:47]: But that has nothing to do with the bylaws. I mean it's just that we didn't follow them. That's all we didn't follow and there's some other amendments in there that we need to make. Ms. Johnson brought up a date that we're supposed to vote on that, etc. Is that correct, Ms. Johnson? [0:42:47, 0:43:07]: Yes. I mean if we can vote on it at our next meeting before the end of the year, um, and which which is really why we'd like to have those two-on-two or one-on-one meetings with you all to kind of go through some of those things. And Linda's putting together a short, you know, bullet pointed list of some things that we just want to have addressed to make sure that we're [0:43:07, 0:43:20]: clear on going forward. So the new year where we have a clean process. Yes. Oh, we're speaking in to uh amend the bylaws. Is that what I'm hearing? We need to make some amendments to the existing bylaws. [0:43:22, 0:43:31]: Yes. Yes. Uh we wanna just make sure that you all are good with those. But again, you know, not for this meeting necessarily, but for offline just sort of [0:43:31, 0:43:35]: have a a work session discussion about it. What if so [0:43:36, 0:43:38]: Why don't we schedule it after the December second meeting? [0:43:40, 0:43:47]: Sounds like that. Yes. There's a is another meeting schedule, planning commission meeting scheduled for December 16, just two weeks later. [0:43:48, 0:43:50]: Well and we we will address that with [0:43:50, 0:43:53]: I wanted to get us to get into all the dates, but let's [0:43:53, 0:44:04]: uh talk offline with you, Chairman, um, and and talk with the other board members. But for the sake of this particular agenda, um, I think we can, you know, close with that and [0:44:04, 0:44:05]: Do all offline. [0:44:07, 0:44:10]: Okay. Having said that, have a motion to adjourn. [0:44:12, 0:44:13]: I'll second it. [0:44:14, 0:44:20]: You want are you want to make a motion to adjourn? No, no, I mean I'll present a motion to adjoin the meeting. [0:44:20, 0:44:22]: And then I need Miss Logan. [0:44:23, 0:44:25]: Yeah. [0:44:25, 0:44:27]: Yes. Did you say something? [0:44:27, 0:44:32]: No. Oh Ms. Ms. Nelson did. She made the motion to to adjourn. [0:44:33, 0:44:38]: Mr. Nelson has made a motion to adjourn. Do I have a second? I hero tibod or a second. [0:44:39, 0:44:46]: Yeah, motion has been made by Ms. Nelson and second by Mr. Thibodeau. All those in favor, let it be known by the sign of aye. [0:44:46, 0:44:47]: Uh [0:44:47, 0:44:49]: Those opposed, as have it. [0:44:50, 0:44:52]: The motion to adjourn is carried. [0:44:54, 0:44:54]: Pardon me? [0:44:56, 0:44:57]: Somebody say something. [0:44:59, 0:45:00]: I believe that was Miss Nell. [0:45:01, 0:45:02]: Ms. Nelson? [0:45:05, 0:45:06]: Mr. Nelson, did you say something? [0:45:07, 0:45:08]: No, sir. [0:45:08, 0:45:09]: Okay. [0:45:10, 0:45:14]: That being said, the motion the uh meeting is adjourned until uh [0:45:15, 0:45:17]: What is it? The next one is in November. [0:45:18, 0:45:19]: December second. [0:45:19, 0:45:21]: December second, okay. [0:45:23, 0:45:24]: Hi, well good night everyone. [0:45:25, 0:45:28]: Thank you so much, Chairman. Thank you, Planning Commissioners Jaha. [0:45:28, 0:45:28]: Okay. [0:45:29, 0:45:30]: We'll be in touch. [0:45:30, 0:45:31]: Alrighty. Bye bye. [0:45:31, 0:45:32]: Bye bye. [0:45:33, 0:45:34]: Ms. Mr. Tividone. [0:45:35, 0:45:36]: Mr. Tividor. [0:45:38, 0:45:38]: Yes, sir. [0:45:39, 0:45:42]: No, everybody was leaving. I I thought you had something you wanted to say to me. [0:45:43, 0:45:45]: Yeah, but I uh I just call me. [0:45:45, 0:45:49]: Call you, we'll do. All right. All right. Thank you.

--- title: October 26 2021 Work Session Meeting date: 2021-10-26 source: 2021-10-26_October_26_2021_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:11, 0:00:12]: Doing great, doing great. [0:00:14, 0:00:15]: We are here. [0:00:15, 0:00:21]: Getting ready for the uh greatest event that's going to take place ever in life, and that is Fam U Homecoming. [0:00:21, 0:00:23]: All right now. [0:00:23, 0:00:24]: Let's make it. [0:00:24, 0:00:29]: The single greatest assembling of everybody anywhere be this weekend in Tallahassee, Florida. [0:00:29, 0:00:31]: Oh yes, okay. [0:00:31, 0:00:34]: I agree with you on that, Tony. Yes. [0:00:35, 0:00:36]: So [0:00:36, 0:00:38]: Yeah, so we will be [0:00:38, 0:00:42]: Unavailable for anything until Monday. Well probably Tuesday actually. [0:00:50, 0:00:51]: Thank you. [0:01:01, 0:01:02]: Yeah. [0:01:02, 0:01:05]: Mary's having some complications. I'm gonna try to get him on. [0:01:06, 0:01:06]: Okay. [0:01:40, 0:01:41]: Uh uh [0:02:29, 0:02:30]: So [0:03:16, 0:03:19]: Well, I'm finally here. [0:03:25, 0:03:26]: Let's see here. [0:03:36, 0:03:42]: Hi ladies and gentlemen, sorry about my delay. It's what you call headspace and timing problem there. [0:03:42, 0:03:50]: In between the ears, right? Anyway, we're here all now. So, anyway, so I think we have a quorum, obviously. Um, so I have now. [0:03:51, 0:03:55]: Uh six oh four. All right. So I like to call this um [0:03:55, 0:03:56]: Wor council work session. [0:03:57, 0:04:02]: Tuesday the twenty sixth of october two thousand and twenty-one to order. [0:04:02, 0:04:06]: On that note, uh Mayor Pro Tem Alexander, please give him location. [0:04:06, 0:04:08]: Would everyone bow your heads, please? [0:04:10, 0:04:11]: Our Lord who dwelt in heaven. [0:04:12, 0:04:13]: Please give us the guise. [0:04:13, 0:04:14]: Wisdom. [0:04:15, 0:04:17]: To do the city's business. [0:04:18, 0:04:22]: With regard to our citizens to make sure their welfare [0:04:23, 0:04:24]: In their best interests. [0:04:25, 0:04:27]: Is the bidding that we do this evening? [0:04:27, 0:04:30]: Please bless every official on this. [0:04:31, 0:04:32]: Meeting tonight. [0:04:33, 0:04:34]: With health, wellness. [0:04:35, 0:04:38]: And to make sure that they are doing the bidding. [0:04:38, 0:04:39]: Of the citizens. [0:04:40, 0:04:43]: This is what we're charged with doing. This is our foremost task. [0:04:44, 0:04:47]: And we will do it in your way as we are seeking the light. [0:04:48, 0:04:50]: to do what's best for our community. [0:04:50, 0:04:52]: Make sure that we feed the hungry. [0:04:52, 0:04:53]: Make sure that we [0:04:54, 0:05:14]: Do what's best to deal with the ills in society. Make sure that we can do what's best to keep this community safe, prosperous, and well-being. We know that it is you that has brought us to this point, this point at the appointed time to move this city in the right direction under your guidance and under your [0:05:14, 0:05:15]: More code. [0:05:15, 0:05:35]: We know that you you know all and that you see all and that you have and that you will guide us in the ways to do the right thing and to make sure that we understand it is you, it is all you that sees, hears, and adjusts based on what our needs, what is best for us. [0:05:35, 0:05:48]: for us whether we know it or not. Thank you, Lord, for being who you are and what you are and the force in our lives for good. Thank you. Amen. Amen. [0:05:49, 0:05:50]: Please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. [0:05:53, 0:06:06]: A pledge of allegiance to the foreign. And to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:06:15, 0:06:17]: For some reason here, um [0:06:21, 0:06:26]: We need to take uh we need to take the um Madam Clerk, we need to take a roll call, make sure we have a coin. [0:06:31, 0:06:32]: May afford. [0:06:32, 0:06:32]: Present. [0:06:33, 0:06:34]: Mayor Pro Tem Alexander. [0:06:34, 0:06:36]: Present. Councilwoman Barber. [0:06:37, 0:06:37]: That's it. [0:06:37, 0:06:38]: Councilman Blount. [0:06:39, 0:06:40]: Present. [0:06:40, 0:06:41]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:06:42, 0:06:44]: Present. Councilman Thomas. [0:06:44, 0:06:45]: Present. [0:06:45, 0:06:50]: Mayor Ford, you have a quorum. Thank you very much. Council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:06:56, 0:07:14]: Well, I was suggesting if if this is proper. Um items five and six that deal with a second reading for the UDC along with the actual zoning map. Um, like for us to um delay that until January. Additional review is needed in this aspect and the pleasure. [0:07:15, 0:07:16]: Some move. [0:07:17, 0:07:18]: Okay, zero second. [0:07:19, 0:07:20]: That's it. [0:07:20, 0:07:22]: Okay, all in favor please indicate. [0:07:24, 0:07:28]: Thank you. It looks like it's unanimous. Okay, and that aspect. Now what I Yes, sir. [0:07:29, 0:07:49]: Can we amend the agenda to at least open either for uh discussion or an update uh pertaining to uh the mitigation, beautification, and uh uh um of uh um leash in the widening of lease street in um east Atlanta? Also, um if there [0:07:49, 0:08:00]: If including a discussion will give us even an update or something on that pertaining to those areas. And if there's a schedule for sound check, I would like that to be a part of it also. [0:08:01, 0:08:05]: Well I would tell you why my understanding is that's gonna be on the agenda for uh eighth of November. [0:08:07, 0:08:15]: We'll we'll have we'll talk about those issues eighth and over. If if I stand corrected, uh city attorneys, I believe that is that is a true. Is that case? Is that right? [0:08:19, 0:08:21]: I believe so, Mary. I believe so. [0:08:22, 0:08:25]: I think that's supposed to be on the agenda uh for the next meeting. [0:08:25, 0:08:29]: Right. Well we'll we'll talk about things distentibly then. [0:08:30, 0:08:40]: Okay. Mayor at uh one more question at this point, sir. For his events for the amphitheater, for his concerts for the year. Uh yes, we are, sir. [0:08:40, 0:08:40]: Okay. [0:08:41, 0:08:43]: Thank you. Um [0:08:44, 0:09:04]: Also, I'd like to I'm sorry, I'd like to also mention to you that uh item number 11 um is uh we're not prepared for that. We don't have the proper amount of individual that is qualified for the uh member of the planning commission. So I'd like to have a message a mission, excuse me, a motion to um [0:09:04, 0:09:07]: uh take that off the agenda as well until we get qualified people. [0:09:08, 0:09:08]: So move. [0:09:09, 0:09:10]: So a second. [0:09:10, 0:09:12]: Thank you. All in favor, please indicate. [0:09:14, 0:09:34]: All right, thank you. And one other thing, because of the removal of the UDC and the zoning, uh we need to have actually add to the agenda uh discussion and approval of extending the moratorium that would end at the end of this month, and we'll need to take it till the the till the January uh 31st and or until we [0:09:33, 0:09:41]: actually have our second reading which we'll have a second reading on the UDC um and the zoning map in uh January. [0:09:41, 0:09:43]: So they're a second. [0:09:45, 0:09:48]: Mr. Blount, okay. All in favor, please indicate. [0:09:49, 0:10:09]: And okay, thank you very much. Now that that discussion or that uh conversation about the moratorium extension will be uh it'll come right before or it's part of the new business. So we'll make it number, we'll make it after the council consideration approved the apply for the governor's uh governor's grant. Okay. [0:10:10, 0:10:11]: We'll take a right there. [0:10:13, 0:10:25]: Okay, so on that note, I will actually now need a motion to adopt the agenda as as as we as is stated. So moved. [0:10:25, 0:10:26]: All in favor, please indicate. [0:10:28, 0:10:48]: Thank you very much. Unanimous is okay. I need a motion to review the minutes from the uh September 13th council meeting and also the September 28th uh council work session. And uh obviously we will approve these um these actual uh minutes during the actual uh next next council meeting. [0:10:48, 0:10:57]: On the eighth of November, but if you know whether or not there's anything that needs to be changed at this time or anything that you have, counsel in reference to this. If not, um [0:10:58, 0:10:59]: We'll move on. [0:10:59, 0:11:01]: So move. Thank you. Is there a second? [0:11:04, 0:11:06]: Ms. Barber Seconds had all in favor, please indicate. [0:11:08, 0:11:15]: Thank you very much. All right, now uh Miss Uh Ms. Holliday, our city clerk, we have any public comments at all? [0:11:15, 0:11:19]: Mayor, we do have one public comment. Please go ahead, read it. [0:11:19, 0:11:22]: Comment submitted by Sunny Rendezzo. [0:11:22, 0:11:25]: Bryant Street, Backbridge, Georgia. [0:11:27, 0:11:31]: I am requesting that all future council meetings are open to the public. [0:11:31, 0:11:33]: The taxpayers have not [0:11:33, 0:11:38]: been allowed to attend meetings in person since two thousand nineteen. [0:11:38, 0:11:43]: In that period, you spent twenty-four million dollars on a music venue. [0:11:43, 0:11:46]: While citizens are crying for traffic relief. [0:11:47, 0:11:52]: You have now hosted two concerts with literally thousands of people attending. [0:11:52, 0:11:59]: In the meantime, we are paying for flashing lights, which might as well say stay out of Stockbridge on concert days. [0:12:00, 0:12:04]: and most likely costing local merchants their normal weekend revenues. [0:12:05, 0:12:08]: I thought we built the amphitheater to attract new businesses. [0:12:09, 0:12:12]: How will that work when we are warning customers? [0:12:13, 0:12:15]: Consumers out of stock reach. [0:12:16, 0:12:21]: The fact that we are still unable to attend meetings in person is hypocritical. [0:12:22, 0:12:23]: And disrespectful. [0:12:24, 0:12:29]: to your constituents. If we can't attend meetings inside City Hall due to COVID. [0:12:30, 0:12:31]: Then hold them outside. [0:12:32, 0:12:33]: At the amphitheater. [0:12:33, 0:12:35]: where we are paying. [0:12:35, 0:12:36]: Four. [0:12:36, 0:12:37]: Also [0:12:37, 0:12:40]: Please provide the citizens with updates tonight. [0:12:41, 0:12:43]: On the plan for noise mitigation. [0:12:43, 0:12:45]: For the community. Thank you. [0:12:46, 0:12:47]: There are no further comments here. [0:12:47, 0:13:07]: Well, thank you for that. And obviously in this uh case, the council, uh, that is something that we need to discuss as a council, as a group, and whether or not uh how when we would want to open that up. So further conversation will have to be had in reference to that. So we'll see how that goes with uh internally and then we'll just make a decision on that note. Mayor. Yes, ma'am. If my if I [0:13:07, 0:13:14]: I may also correct the record, the city council did hold meetings in 2019, so that information was incorrect. [0:13:15, 0:13:17]: Okay, thank you very much. Appreciate it. [0:13:17, 0:13:23]: Okay. Next is presentation, police services presentation by Chief Frank Trammer. Sir. [0:13:25, 0:13:25]: Please. [0:13:27, 0:13:33]: Thank you, Mayor and Council. Um I appreciate the opportunity to present this information. I know that uh [0:13:33, 0:13:38]: Uh many of the council members have met with most of you individually and so you've had an opportunity to [0:13:39, 0:13:45]: uh see this information and discuss it, but um I I'm I'm looking forward to the opportunity to [0:13:45, 0:13:50]: uh reveal this to members of the community who are watching this evening as well as other interested parties. [0:13:51, 0:14:04]: My hope is that we can get through this presentation in the span of about 15 minutes. So if we could uh please hold questions till the end of the presentation and we could go back and refer to anything that you might have questions on. [0:14:05, 0:14:09]: Um without uh I guess with uh without further ado. [0:14:10, 0:14:16]: If we could uh go ahead and go through this presentation here. So the first thing that I need to do, I guess, is share my screen. [0:14:17, 0:14:18]: So that you all can see. [0:14:20, 0:14:21]: The presentation. [0:14:22, 0:14:23]: Uh let's see here. [0:14:24, 0:14:25]: Are you all able to see that? [0:14:27, 0:14:30]: should say Stockbridge Police Department Police Services presentation. [0:14:31, 0:14:32]: Yes. We we see it. [0:14:32, 0:14:33]: Okay, yeah, yeah. [0:14:34, 0:14:54]: Excellent. So as it relates to uh the financial uh impact of implementing a police department, uh the personnel obviously are the uh largest expense that the department's gonna have. So the first thing that we need to do in order to accurately project the cost of the police department is to understand what we need in terms of [0:14:54, 0:14:57]: of staffing to be able to provide services to the community. [0:14:57, 0:15:03]: So the first part of this is to project our staffing needs. And the subsequent steps here we will go through. [0:15:03, 0:15:05]: Um, some of this will be a little quick. [0:15:06, 0:15:14]: But some of this I think you will find will be a repeat of information that was discussed and was covered in the most recent feasibility study. [0:15:15, 0:15:20]: So the feasibility study that was done in 2020 by the Carl Vinson Institute of Government. [0:15:20, 0:15:28]: uh if you recall projected based on various different uh methodologies used to determine the number of officers needed to provide services to the city. [0:15:29, 0:15:33]: Came up with a range of officers from forty five to eighty four officers. [0:15:34, 0:15:36]: And ultimately it was recommended. [0:15:37, 0:15:38]: By the feasibility study. [0:15:39, 0:15:42]: That Stockbridge start with fifty seven officers. [0:15:44, 0:15:44]: Now [0:15:45, 0:15:46]: A lot of these [0:15:47, 0:16:02]: methodologies here, they're not extremely accurate in terms of determining the exact number of officers that are needed. This is basically just a baseline estimate. So the thing that we want to do is really look at what's called a workload-based staffing methodology. [0:16:03, 0:16:15]: And what this is doing is it's actually looking for the calls for service, looking at the the the service demand in the city, uh determining how much time it takes to address those calls that are coming in from members of the community. [0:16:15, 0:16:22]: And then establishing some other variables that are going to help us arrive at some staffing numbers. And all of this, I promise you, will make sense. [0:16:22, 0:16:42]: Uh as we progress through the presentation. So the first thing that we have to do is we have to understand the true demand for service in the city. So what does that look like? And if you recall in the feasibility study, uh, those of you that uh have read it, and for those of you not familiar with it, one of the issues because of the geography of the city that they had difficult, uh, difficult [0:16:42, 0:16:53]: Time estimating the actual service demand for the city because they were pulling data from various different zones that were close to Stock Ridge, but there may have been calls. [0:16:54, 0:17:05]: that were actually in the city proper and there may have been calls that were not. And so the numbers were really an estimate and it was difficult to accurately project based on those numbers the true demand. [0:17:05, 0:17:11]: The good thing is is that Henry County has recently um gone with a new uh CAD system. [0:17:11, 0:17:16]: And their CAN system has been able to uh by virtue of their G GIS layers. [0:17:17, 0:17:24]: to discriminate what calls actually are part of the city versus what calls are occurring in the county. [0:17:24, 0:17:30]: And so the most recent data that I want to share with you here is from July 2020 to July 2021. [0:17:31, 0:17:33]: And for that entire year period. [0:17:33, 0:17:38]: You can see here there were twenty two thousand eight hundred and sixty two calls for service within the city. [0:17:39, 0:17:51]: If you look down through, you can see some of these crime numbers here and an estimate of stockbridges calls for service versus the county calls for service and also some crime data here, but we'll cover that a little bit later. [0:17:51, 0:17:59]: So the next thing that we have to do is determine how much time does it take an officer to handle uh these 22,000 plus calls that are coming in. [0:18:00, 0:18:06]: And uh we could look at the exact amount of time that was spent and the Carl Benson study did. [0:18:06, 0:18:16]: But they found that the amount of time spent on calls coincided with the IACP best practice for determining the amount of time that officers spend on calls. [0:18:17, 0:18:23]: And uh this is an excerpt from page ten of the Carl Vinson study. It said that on average it takes an officer about forty-five minutes. [0:18:24, 0:18:28]: to handle one call for service. So forty five minutes uh per call. [0:18:29, 0:18:34]: And the next thing that we have to do in order to figure out our staffing is to calculate the shift relief factor. [0:18:35, 0:18:37]: And the shift relief factor. [0:18:37, 0:18:44]: In essence is you all understand the fact that a police officer cannot work every single day of the week that [0:18:44, 0:18:56]: You have to allow time for off days and vacation and training along the and and things along those lines. So um again, the national average for relief factor is about 1.84. So what that means in essence. [0:18:56, 0:19:03]: Is that for every position that requires one officer to staff that position, you basically need one point eight four officers. [0:19:03, 0:19:16]: in order to provide continuity of service. And so of course we can't have 1.84 officers. So you would need two officers to staff every ship for which it requires one officer. And this'll this will be relevant here in just a moment. [0:19:17, 0:19:22]: So the next thing that we have to do is establish our performance objectives. And what we mean by performance objectives. [0:19:23, 0:19:30]: Uh is basically how much discretionary time do we want our officers to have to be able to engage? [0:19:30, 0:19:32]: And true community policing effort. [0:19:32, 0:19:49]: And uh we aspire to be a police department that has time to get out and and interact with the community, to engage in foot patrols, to um attend neighborhood association meetings in various different uh civic and community functions. We want our officers to be able to have time to do that. [0:19:50, 0:19:50]: Um [0:19:51, 0:19:57]: It it and and according to studies that have been done, and there's the notation here from the ICP. [0:19:57, 0:20:05]: that that if those standards, those performance standards, fall below 35%, what you're essentially dealing with is a reactive police force. [0:20:05, 0:20:18]: Is that they are responding to calls for service. They're not proactively addressing problems in the community. Um, they're not truly engaging in community policing. And having come from Atlanta and especially at the onset of Sandy Springs. [0:20:19, 0:20:28]: Um the calls were such that you didn't have a lot of time to really get out and engage and put patrols and different activities with members of the communities because you're running from call to call to call. [0:20:28, 0:20:37]: So the the the the recommendation, and there are several different recommendations. The recommendations basically between 40 to 50 percent of an officer's time. [0:20:37, 0:20:50]: be uncommitted so that that officer has an opportunity to engage either in uh uh community policing or some sort of proactive policing measure, whether that be traffic forcement or hotspot policing or something along those lines. [0:20:51, 0:20:52]: Now [0:20:52, 0:21:07]: If we were to incorporate those standards here, the I the the IECP recommends that an officer have about 45% of their uh schedule uncommitted, unobligated, so that they can engage in these proactive or community policing functions. [0:21:08, 0:21:11]: Uh the International City and Managers Association um [0:21:11, 0:21:14]: Their standard is forty percent unobligated time. [0:21:14, 0:21:22]: But the police allocation model through Northwestern University School Police Staff and Command recommends fifty percent. So you can see there's a range there between 40. [0:21:23, 0:21:29]: the fifty percent, but we really don't want to fall below forty percent because what happens here is we get into a reactive mode of policing and we're not able to provide. [0:21:30, 0:21:31]: true community policing. [0:21:31, 0:21:37]: So based on these different models here, when we uh do the calculations, which you'll see here in just a moment. [0:21:37, 0:21:45]: Utilizing the first model, the fifty percent unobligated time would require thirty-eight officers. And I want you to understand this is not inclusive of supervisors. [0:21:45, 0:21:46]: Um [0:21:47, 0:21:51]: Um or I'm sorry, this is not inclusive of a support stand. [0:21:51, 0:22:01]: If we were to go the route of 45% based on the IECP recommendation, it would require 35 officers. These are patrol officers. And the ICMA model would require 32 officers. [0:22:03, 0:22:13]: The next thing we have to do is calculate our staffing estimates. And so I want to take you through how we arrived at these numbers that I'm going to share with you here in just a moment. So if you refer back to or if you recall the information that we presented previously. [0:22:13, 0:22:21]: Um the calls for service during the uh the year period from July to July, July 2020, July 2021. [0:22:21, 0:22:24]: was twenty two thousand eight hundred and sixty-two calls for service. [0:22:25, 0:22:31]: If you recall, it takes an officer an average of about 45 minutes to handle those calls. So we multiply that by a factor of 0.75. [0:22:31, 0:22:41]: And we arrive at a number of 17,147. This is basically the number of hours that is required of an officer to be able to handle the service demand for the city. [0:22:42, 0:22:49]: We have our relief factor, which has already been calculated for us. And this number number right here, as we said before, is a variable number. So between 40 to 50 percent. [0:22:49, 0:22:50]: Um [0:22:50, 0:22:55]: of uncommitted time that we need to engage in community policing. So just taking you through [0:22:55, 0:23:00]: The calculations here, you take the number from number two, the seventeen thousand one hundred and forty-seven. [0:23:00, 0:23:15]: uh hours that are required for an officer to provide service and we divide that by a variable of 0.5, which would represent 50% uncommitted time, it would require 34,294 total yearly officer hours to provide that level of service. [0:23:16, 0:23:17]: Now [0:23:17, 0:23:33]: With the model that we're looking at, we're looking at 12-hour shifts. So an officer on a 12-hour shift would work 2196 hours a year. So we divide that number there. And it would come up with 15.62 officers. And again, we can't go with a 0.62. We always have to round up on these. [0:23:34, 0:23:45]: So it would require six officers to be able to meet this demand if they did not take any time off. It would be 16 officers to meet this demand without taking any vacation, any training, or time off. [0:23:45, 0:23:50]: That's where our relief factor comes into play. So we multiply that 16 by 1.84. [0:23:50, 0:23:58]: Gives us 29.44. So essentially 30 officers it will require a bus in order to provide services factoring in. [0:23:59, 0:24:00]: The um [0:24:00, 0:24:01]: Um [0:24:02, 0:24:02]: The off time. [0:24:03, 0:24:12]: The recommended recommendation for police officer to supervisor ratio is one to seven. So if we take that number of 30 officers divided by seven, we end up with 4.28. [0:24:12, 0:24:28]: times the relief factor because again the supervisors are going to need time off. That's going to give us 7.88 or eight supervisors. So for the patrol function, it requires essentially 30 officers and eight supervisors using the 50-50 time month. And again, these numbers would scale down based on whether we use [0:24:28, 0:24:31]: Fifty percent, forty five, or forty percent. [0:24:32, 0:24:32]: So [0:24:33, 0:24:47]: The other recommendation or the other uh best practice is that 60% of your personnel be assigned to patrol or call answering functions. These would be your officers and your mark units, whether it be your traffic unit, your crime suppression, your canine, your patrol units. [0:24:47, 0:24:52]: Um the officers actually performing uh the the the the traditional police function. [0:24:52, 0:24:53]: Uh and you need [0:24:54, 0:25:07]: Uh on average, about 40% of your staff or support functions. That would be investigation, training, and other administrative uh functions that would be required to run the department. So if we add 40% to that, we're at 53.2. [0:25:07, 0:25:11]: And again, we have to round that up. So fifty-four officers based on [0:25:11, 0:25:16]: the actual calls for service if we were to go with fifty percent uncommitted time. [0:25:17, 0:25:24]: So the next slide that I want to share with you is what these numbers would look like depending on what model we go with. If we went with the police allocation model. [0:25:25, 0:25:31]: We require 38 officers. We add 40% to that, gives us 54 sworn officers. If we go with the IST model. [0:25:31, 0:25:46]: Uh 35 officers plus 40% of that's 49%. And as we go down to 60 and 40 uncommitted time, that's 32 officers with 40% gives you 45 sworn officers in order to be able to provide that quality of service or that level of service to the community. [0:25:47, 0:25:55]: Now, if you were to look at based on crime comparisons, and you can see what I put together is some similarly situated cities. [0:25:55, 0:26:05]: that are roughly the equivalent population of the city of Stockbridge. And so you see our violent crime ratio is 2.37, our property crime ratio is 30.47. [0:26:05, 0:26:13]: And if we were to come up with an average of the number of officers that we need based on our crime ratio, that number would be about 75. [0:26:13, 0:26:21]: Now, I don't believe based on the workload assessment that we need that, but if we were to use the comparison cities and what they have for officers, that's the model that we would be looking at. [0:26:22, 0:26:23]: So in essence [0:26:23, 0:26:33]: This is what I came up with based on the workload-based methodology is we would need at a minimum 45 officers to a maximum of 75. [0:26:33, 0:26:41]: But the optimal range really would be somewhere between 56 and 62 sworn officers to provide the level of service that we would desire to provide for the community. [0:26:42, 0:26:48]: So based on that, the next thing that we have to do is figure out our organizational structure, how are we going to break the department down? [0:26:48, 0:26:59]: So optimally based on the high end of that range, the 62 number, uh, it would require 62 full-time sworn uh staff and nine civilian employees for a total of 71 officers. This would be optimally. [0:26:59, 0:27:10]: Um, the cost for that would at the at the low end be about six and a half million dollars up to the high end of$7.1 million. And this would be if we brought everybody in at the max range. [0:27:10, 0:27:20]: of the pay scale, which is not likely. So the more realistic number is probably going to fall somewhere in the mid-range there. So for the staffing model, it would re it it would be roughly equivalent to$6.9 million. [0:27:21, 0:27:27]: If we were to go with another scenario and we were look at the low end of that optimal range, fifty-six officers with nine support staff. [0:27:28, 0:27:35]: Uh what that looks like is on the very high end would be about six and a half million dollars, mid-range six point three, on the low end about six million dollars. [0:27:37, 0:27:42]: If we go to the next scenario here and slightly scale down from that at 54 officers, nine support staff. [0:27:42, 0:27:48]: Uh what we would be looking at is roughly 6.3 on the high end, 6.1 the mid end. [0:27:48, 0:27:51]: and five point eight conservatively on the low end. [0:27:51, 0:28:00]: And the last scenario I want to present to you here is the IACP recommendation. This is the 49 officers based on the 45% uncommitted time. [0:28:00, 0:28:02]: And if we were to go that route. [0:28:03, 0:28:16]: what that would look like conservatively on the low end the department would end up costing about 5.4 million. More realistically, probably closer to 5.7, and on the high end, about$5.8 million for this particular staffing model. [0:28:18, 0:28:38]: Now we've got our organizational structure determined, which is important because that helps us calculate salaries and wages. One of the things I've been able to do is do a salary study based on what other police agencies in the Metro Atlanta area are paying their officers. And of course, we want to be competitive. The average uh starting salary for police officer. [0:28:37, 0:28:52]: the metro Atlanta area is about$44,000. On the very high end, it's about$63,000. And according to our current pay plan for the city, our minimum starting salary for an officer would be about$43,159. And the maximum salary would be$64,000. [0:28:53, 0:29:13]: Um, this is just uh in line with the department's current pace structure. And you can see uh let's say for an example, um, that we took we look at a police officer here. Police officer would be roughly the equivalent of grade uh pay grade 111 for the city. Uh if this officer were to come in with generally with no experience, that officer would be on the low end of the scale there starting. [0:29:13, 0:29:15]: Yeah, forty three thousand one fifty nine. [0:29:16, 0:29:26]: Now, this is a tiered system that we take into account what an officer is bringing to the table, their training, their credentials, their certifications. The more points they have, the higher they'll fall on this matrix. [0:29:27, 0:29:31]: And these levels here are basically uh based on your education level. So an A six. [0:29:32, 0:29:37]: This would be the equivalent of an associate's degree. This would be equivalent of a bachelor's uh a bachelor's up to a master's degree. [0:29:38, 0:29:58]: And so, say for instance, if you have an associate's degree and you have 50 points, your starting salary would be roughly$49,000. That's how we come up with this matrix. And we have a similar scale for the various different positions. And this is just some of the other levels that we were considering. So you can see what the salary range is there. And again, all of these salary ranges. [0:29:58, 0:30:04]: We've done a salary study so that these salaries are in line with the Metro Atlanta average. [0:30:05, 0:30:22]: So then we need to look at the the uh the the annual cost, right? What's the department gonna cost us? If you recall from the Carl Vinson study here, um it said personnel service is gonna be about 4.6, operating costs a little over a million. Their number was 5.688, which is very close to what we come up with in terms of what we would need to provide. [0:30:22, 0:30:39]: uh scenario three in terms of service, but what that did not take into account is the cost of inflation. So the six million dollar number is roughly the equivalent of what it would uh what it would be in today's dollars based on uh based on that study with a 3% inflation. This is projecting out into 2022. [0:30:40, 0:30:55]: These are numbers from scenario three that we had discussed with that ICMA model. 49 officers, nine support staff would at the low end be about 5.4 million, mid-range 5.6, and on the high end about 5.8 million total annual costs. [0:30:56, 0:31:08]: This is just an FYI slide looking at what other similarly situated cities are paying for police services. You can see here McDonough has 63 officers. Their annual police budget's$5.9, almost$6 million. [0:31:09, 0:31:12]: Um Carolton has 82, theirs is 8.5. [0:31:12, 0:31:25]: And if we were to go with a per capita rate, um, then then that's where this 8 million number comes from. I'm not saying that that's the number that would be required. This would probably be the number that would be required if we will have that maximum range of 75 officers. [0:31:25, 0:31:30]: Which again, based on the workload, I don't think is uh is is necessary or appropriate. [0:31:30, 0:31:37]: So we've got the annual operating costs. Uh, we're estimating the startup cost, and this is just a breakdown of the startup cost by category. [0:31:38, 0:31:46]: So included in the background and recruitment expenses would be fees associated with polygraph, psychological, medical screening. [0:31:46, 0:31:49]: Um and uh and and um uh [0:31:50, 0:32:05]: some various different um other other functions. One of the things is a variable expense here is what some agencies are doing is they're actually paying a hiring incentive or a hiring bonus uh to bring officers into the organization. And I honestly believe, I mean, I've had probably 150 to 200 [0:32:05, 0:32:25]: um people reach out to me already expressing interest in coming and joining the department um just since that's been announced. And honestly, I don't know that we would need to implement a bonus system to attract people. This number is taking into account if we were to implement that, that that would be a potential cost in addition to some of the other recruitment and background costs. [0:32:25, 0:32:35]: There will be some minor renovations probably needed to be made to the police facility. We've estimated those at about a half a million dollars and then about$250,000 in furnishing. [0:32:35, 0:32:45]: Uh the next um item here is it relates to fleet. Uh the number of vehicles that we required to staff this department would uh would would be about 58 vehicles. [0:32:45, 0:32:58]: And um uh that's to allow too for uh extra vehicles in the event that a vehicle gets crashed or something along those lines uh were to occur. And to purchase those vehicles outright would be about 2.9. [0:32:59, 0:33:00]: The three million dollars. [0:33:00, 0:33:04]: Uh the mobile radios, you can see the cost there, in-car cameras, mobile printers. [0:33:04, 0:33:18]: We get into technology, another um uh significant expense would be a report management system. That would be uh the system that's utilized to dispatch calls for officers to run information, to generate reports. [0:33:18, 0:33:25]: This would basically be the software that would be using to conduct business in terms of reporting information to the FBI. [0:33:26, 0:33:30]: for crime reporting purposes and just documenting all the instances that are occurring in the city. [0:33:31, 0:33:35]: Uh software expenses, telecommunications, printers, you can see all these things here, web services. [0:33:35, 0:33:44]: Uh uniform and gear, and and you know, I've got all this stuff broken down. You can see to equip the entire department based on that model, 49 officers, nine civilian employees. [0:33:44, 0:33:51]: Would be about 185,000. Uh portable radios, 290,000, ballistic vest, 42, body worn cameras, about 34. [0:33:52, 0:33:56]: Uh then ammunition, tasers, rifles, pistols, you can see the costs associated with that. [0:33:56, 0:34:06]: And um so so we would be looking at a total startup cost of about six point one million dollars if we were to purchase all these things outright. And what's what's notated here in red. [0:34:07, 0:34:12]: is expenses that could be reimbursable either through ARPA funds or through the acquisition of grants. [0:34:13, 0:34:30]: If we were able to max out the total reimbursable expense, the total after reimbursable expenses would be about$1.8 million. And we have$3 million bonded, which would mean that if we were able to do that, then we wouldn't need necessarily that entire$3 million that's been bonded for the police department. [0:34:31, 0:34:45]: So those are the expenses, but we need to know what are the revenues, right? And again, this is information that you have seen before through the Carl Benson study. Uh it was estimated that property tax rollback would be about 1.9 or uh$1.9 million. [0:34:45, 0:34:56]: Um the city's contribution for supplemental services through the county at 500,000, estimated revenue from municipal court. And that's where we get our revenue amounts, so$2.9 million roughly. [0:34:56, 0:35:00]: And then we subtract that from the total operating cost, which gives us our budget shortfall. [0:35:01, 0:35:06]: First figure there is based on the Carl Benson study. Second figure is the low end of that scale of 5.4. [0:35:07, 0:35:15]: For the 49 officers, nine civilian staff, and at the high end, 5.8, we would be looking at a max a budget deficit of about$2.9 million. [0:35:16, 0:35:36]: So this is the range for budget shortfall. And from last meeting when Mr. Harris was on, he indicated that this would cost. So if we were to have to implement at the maximum range three mills in a local property tax to be able to offset these expenses, that would equate to [0:35:36, 0:35:40]: to uh roughly$105 for a$225,000 home. [0:35:41, 0:35:45]: And uh that would equate to about eight point seven five dollars per month. [0:35:45, 0:35:49]: Or eight dollars and seventy five cents rather, uh, if we had to implement [0:35:50, 0:35:50]: The text. [0:35:51, 0:35:58]: Now there's some other things that the Carl Vincent report did not take into consideration. And one of the big things is the American Rescue Plan. [0:35:58, 0:36:09]: Uh, since that was relatively new, there were a lot of questions as to what those funds could be utilized for. And I'll show you here in just a moment that uh there are a number of agencies who are using American Rescue Plan Act funds. [0:36:10, 0:36:16]: to purchase things related to public safety, assuming that certain criteria is met. [0:36:17, 0:36:27]: So I was able to obtain, excuse me, for just a moment from Mr. Wiggins, uh the city's currently received about$5.6 million in ARPA funds. [0:36:27, 0:36:42]: And it's estimated the city will receive uh potentially uh close to 11 million, if not maybe slightly more than that, up to 14 million, based upon a supplemental program that I believe Mr. Aaron will be presenting on later. So uh potentially$14 million in ARPA funding. [0:36:43, 0:36:44]: So um [0:36:45, 0:36:55]: That there's there's tremendous potential there to utilize that to offset some of these expenses. On average, agencies are are obtaining between 50 to half a million dollars a year in grant funding to offset expenses. [0:36:55, 0:37:15]: Um municipal court fines was projected at$1.3 million. But one of the things that we need to take in consideration is through the implementation of local criminal ordinances, that will be another element that will be processed through municipal court. So I would anticipate that you would see fees through municipal court increase, which would also increase probation fees. [0:37:16, 0:37:21]: Uh police departments generally uh bring in about$120,000 annually in uh [0:37:21, 0:37:39]: confiscated property, asset forfeitures. This can't be used to offset our budget, but these funds can be used to provide things for like training and equipment, so on and so forth. And on average, most agencies are bringing about$55,000 a year in license and permits and other charges associated with operating the police department, which you can see here. [0:37:39, 0:37:59]: There are a lot of grant funding opportunities out there. As you recall from the operating costs, so body cameras at$34,400. You can potentially get grant funding to offset that as long as well as with in-car video. Radio is less lethal, the report management system, computers, so on and so forth. There are a ton of grant opportunities that exist. [0:37:59, 0:38:02]: out there, it just takes time to apply for those. [0:38:03, 0:38:08]: So if we were to take into consideration uh uh potential [0:38:08, 0:38:12]: increase in uh uh fine fees through municipal court. [0:38:12, 0:38:16]: uh we could potentially increase the uh the court [0:38:16, 0:38:17]: Um [0:38:18, 0:38:22]: fees and that would be roughly the equivalent of about, you know. [0:38:22, 0:38:22]: Uh [0:38:23, 0:38:30]: $950,000 there. We were able to secure$250,000 conservatively in grant funding and other revenue sources. [0:38:30, 0:38:38]: You can see here that we're still having a budget shortfall. However, that budget shortfall has reduced considerably, which would offset uh the cost. [0:38:38, 0:38:45]: that would need to be um implemented in terms of uh the the uh property tax and millage rate. [0:38:45, 0:38:51]: Now, as it relates to ARPA funding, one of the things that I wanted to point out to you was that uh President Biden had announced [0:38:51, 0:38:56]: that law enforcement organizations are able to utilize ARPA funding. [0:38:56, 0:38:58]: to essentially reduce um [0:38:59, 0:38:59]: Uh um [0:39:00, 0:39:08]: Um instances of crime. So communities have been impacted, especially as it relates to violent crime and gun crime by the COVID pandemic. [0:39:08, 0:39:19]: um they can utilize these funds to um address these issues and provide safe and secure cities. So uh if you look at that communities uh this is directly from the ARPA um [0:39:20, 0:39:30]: site here communities experiencing a surge in gun violence as a result of pandemic may use the American Rescue Plan's$350 million in state and local funding for purchases such as hiring law enforcement officials. [0:39:30, 0:39:33]: additional enforcement efforts and investing in technology and equipment. [0:39:34, 0:39:51]: Now, the catch to this is that you're you're you have to show a nexus between how you're spending that money and that that money is going to be used to reduce violent crime. And so what you have to first be able to prove is that your community has seen an increase in violent crime. [0:39:51, 0:39:53]: As a result of the pandemic [0:39:53, 0:40:07]: And if it has, then anything that you do in terms of these areas right here, you could potentially use that ARPA funding to offset costs associated with that in hopes of bringing the crime down. So I was able to obtain crime statistics for the city. [0:40:07, 0:40:15]: And it was apparent that violent crime has risen significantly during the pandemic in the city of Stockbridge, especially in the area of homicide and aggravated assaults. [0:40:15, 0:40:24]: So based on the crime data that we have, you can see there that Stockbridge is basically 4.19 or 4.19% of the overall land mass in the county. [0:40:25, 0:40:31]: And it equ it it equates to uh or is responsible for for almost a quarter of the crime in the county. [0:40:31, 0:40:42]: So considering the land mass we occupy and the amount of crime that we have, uh, Stockbridge is responsible for 38% of the robberies, 38% of or 30% of homicides, and 20% of overall aggravated assaults. [0:40:43, 0:41:03]: across the county. And so based on this information here, I'm certain that we would qualify. And there's no I mean, there's no greater way to qualify than say, hey, listen, we're implementing an entire police department to address these issues. And I believe that a vast majority of the um the expenses that we have associated with the police department, that we could use those funds to do that. And this is just an over [0:41:03, 0:41:23]: So you can see for yourself, these are excerpts from some news articles about how other agencies are using the ARPA funding. So you can see here that there are agencies using it to purchase communications equipment, agencies using it to purchase police vehicles, to acquire technology. Lorraine in Ohio used it to hire police officers. [0:41:22, 0:41:24]: And um [0:41:24, 0:41:43]: You can see here this is from the city of uh Lompet that uh they're using ARPA funding, 521,000 to purchase body cameras, 805,000 for police vehicles, 650,000 for radios, and a million dollars of that funding they're using for police uh for the CAD system, which would be the equivalent of that RMS system that we spoke of. [0:41:43, 0:41:59]: So there's tremendous potential to offset these expenses through the utilization of some of those funds and all those funds have not been committed uh committed to. I believe that uh roughly we've we've currently allocated about two million dollars in the ARPA funds that we have for projects. [0:41:59, 0:42:19]: um particularly associated with sewer water and stormwater projects, but that still leaves a considerable portion to our discretion in terms of uh how we would like to utilize that. So in essence, if we were to, and these funds can be used through December 31st of 2024, if we were to use these funds, then we could potentially offset the expense of implementation [0:42:19, 0:42:31]: of the police department and we could we could potentially forego the entire year of 2023 in a best case scenario of incorporating any sort of supplemental property tax to provide police services for the city. [0:42:32, 0:42:51]: Now there were a couple other questions that I wanted to uh or or or I think outliers uh some unknowns that existed out there. And I want y'all to understand that uh as it relates to uh additional services that we will not be able to provide uh by virtue of our size and scope, say for instance SWAT or crisis negotiations or canine units. [0:42:52, 0:43:01]: traffic reconstruction, those services can and will be provided. I've had the opportunity to talk both with the chief of police in Henry County and the Sheriff of Henry County. [0:43:01, 0:43:16]: Um that the city is not going to incur any additional expenses. Uh, we would have to you know negotiate a memorandum of understanding we would be able to receive these services um at no additional cost to the city. 911 costs are offset by 911 fees that are paid. Um [0:43:16, 0:43:18]: uh through our residents. [0:43:18, 0:43:36]: And um so that's all all great information here. So July implementation is what we uh we're shooting for, July 1 in terms of the implementation timeframe, and that's very much doable. Uh we currently have some uh listening sessions, town hall meetings planned. I believe we have one on November 6th, the Merle Manors. [0:43:36, 0:43:40]: at ten AM in another uh virtual town hall November sixteenth to [0:43:40, 0:43:50]: Uh gather some input from the community regarding uh the desired scope of service. And we have enough time uh based on those listening sessions to make modifications based on the needs of the community. [0:43:50, 0:43:55]: In December, we would look at onboarding key members of our team to begin with the implementation. [0:43:55, 0:44:08]: Uh we would need to look in January and Henry County said that they would be prepared to move out of the facility uh as soon as January 1, should we need uh to do that so that we can begin looking at how do we need to uh uh you know. [0:44:09, 0:44:12]: renovate the building to meet the needs of the department. [0:44:12, 0:44:22]: Um around April we'd be recruiting our staff, our full complement of staff, and we'd be onboarding all those folks in June of 2022 for implementation on July 1st of 2022. [0:44:22, 0:44:25]: And the advantages of implementation in 2022. [0:44:26, 0:44:27]: I think um [0:44:27, 0:44:33]: um you know really most importantly is the citizens i believe are going to receive an enhanced level of service most immediately. [0:44:33, 0:44:53]: Uh the other thing is that because of Henry County's fiscal cycle, that um if they were to uh if we were to do this July 1, we would receive the full$1.9 million dollars uh in rollback for police services from the county plus the$500,000 in supplemental services. At that time, we too could begin collecting municipal court fines and revenues. [0:44:54, 0:44:59]: Um and um uh implementation half year in July twenty two. [0:44:59, 0:45:06]: Uh I believe I I I quated that it would cost us about$3.3 million because we're not funding for the entire year. [0:45:07, 0:45:08]: And um [0:45:08, 0:45:20]: I believe that during your budget retreat,$2.6 million from the general fund was allocated for the police budget. But then we get that$1.9 million from the county in July 1. [0:45:20, 0:45:29]: Uh, we essentially would not need to use that entire uh two point six million dollars. We roughly would probably need more realistically about uh one point three. [0:45:29, 0:45:35]: uh million dollars additional from the general fund to be able to offset those expenses. [0:45:35, 0:45:37]: For that half year of police service. [0:45:38, 0:45:43]: So that's down and dirty and it is a little longer. It did take me a little longer than what I had hoped for. [0:45:43, 0:45:49]: But um that's that's all I have and hopefully that uh that was some [0:45:50, 0:45:52]: Some questions here, so [0:45:53, 0:46:13]: Uh thanks a lot, Chief. Appreciate the brief. Very thorough brief in this aspect uh from all from the nuts and bolts uh into the planning aspect, the timeline, the funding aspect, and the half in reference to the initiation, initial date to start the department. And very thorough. Uh I know the council has several questions. One of the things that uh that uh [0:46:13, 0:46:33]: besides the financial aspect that way you laid it out and the funding and and the timeline, the fact that you you indicated that you had uh several, several calls of interested individuals, hopefully highly, highly qualified individuals, of course, and that's all we will need and a diverse police force uh to come to stop bridge. And I appreciate the fact that knowing that people individually [0:46:33, 0:46:46]: Individuals are very interested in coming to this way and serving in this community. So on that note, I'll uh I'll uh defer to any council members that have some questions, concerns uh in reference to your brief. Uh anybody lit up? [0:46:47, 0:46:48]: Anybody? [0:46:50, 0:46:54]: Any questions uh for okay, Mayor Potem, I'll see you first then. Go ahead, sir. [0:46:54, 0:46:58]: All right, thank you, Chief. I want to thank you for the excellent presentation. [0:46:58, 0:47:03]: Uh you you put a lot of work into it. Uh you went over it with the council. [0:47:04, 0:47:24]: And from the very first moment that we uh discussed your uh coming to the city of Stockbridge, you said something that captured my support for you, which was it's the Citizens Police Department. Doesn't belong to the city council, doesn't belong to you, it's the citizens police department. [0:47:23, 0:47:24]: Right. [0:47:24, 0:47:26]: And by doing so [0:47:26, 0:47:44]: You have ventured to say that our first town hall meeting in partnership with the citizens is November the 6th. And that way you will go out and talk with the citizens and be able to discuss the appropriate size force that they want to see in their police department, which is coming. [0:47:44, 0:47:46]: To the city of Stockbridge. [0:47:46, 0:47:48]: All of those are key factors. [0:47:49, 0:47:50]: In in moving forward with this. [0:47:51, 0:47:55]: And the thing that uh stood out most to me from your report. [0:47:55, 0:47:58]: That I see every day in the community. [0:47:58, 0:48:02]: І цна чист рум крим із інкріжд. [0:48:03, 0:48:06]: We have seen a number of homicides. [0:48:06, 0:48:10]: In the community, as well as an increase in aggravated assaults. [0:48:10, 0:48:12]: Гункрим, робріс. [0:48:12, 0:48:15]: And the time for the us to is to react. [0:48:15, 0:48:16]: uh is now. [0:48:17, 0:48:18]: I I did um [0:48:19, 0:48:22]: key in on a couple of items that you mentioned as well, which was [0:48:22, 0:48:24]: There will be no city tax. [0:48:24, 0:48:25]: in twenty twenty two. [0:48:26, 0:48:28]: And let me say this categorically. [0:48:28, 0:48:30]: For Elton Alexander. [0:48:30, 0:48:32]: There will be no tax in twenty twenty two. [0:48:33, 0:48:38]: And if it's up to me, I shall vote to use some of the fund balance to guarantee. [0:48:38, 0:48:41]: That there's no city tax in twenty twenty three either. [0:48:41, 0:48:42]: So [0:48:42, 0:48:48]: At that point with that we could eng assure the citizens that there will be no city tax in twenty twenty two. [0:48:48, 0:48:49]: And twenty twenty three. [0:48:50, 0:48:52]: Uh, going forward that would be [0:48:52, 0:48:55]: uh a hundred and five dollars a as you mentioned. [0:48:55, 0:49:00]: The key thing that you brought to this whole discussion in terms of the finances. [0:49:01, 0:49:02]: But I want to to question [0:49:02, 0:49:12]: And and I've and I and I asked I've stated that before, that I thought that we should use these ARPA funds to do what is basic, keep this community safe. [0:49:13, 0:49:16]: Using those funds would allow us to [0:49:16, 0:49:21]: Move forward with the police department uh with the least amount of expense. [0:49:21, 0:49:24]: And as you stated, the administration has already said [0:49:24, 0:49:26]: Is can be used to [0:49:26, 0:49:31]: Combat violent crime. We всі violent crime increasing all over Metro Atlanta. [0:49:32, 0:49:33]: So talk about [0:49:33, 0:49:36]: The use of those ARPA funds. [0:49:36, 0:49:39]: In terms of uh starting this police force. [0:49:39, 0:49:41]: Uh July first of twenty. [0:49:42, 0:49:43]: Twenty two. [0:49:46, 0:49:53]: Yeah, so as as most people are aware, three million dollars have been bonded for the implementation of the police department. And um [0:49:54, 0:50:06]: If if we were to use those ARPA funds, if you recall from the startup budget expenses, that that we could essentially use about four point five million dollars from ARPA funds to take care of all the capital expenses. [0:50:06, 0:50:13]: Um and those are those are high range estimates, so it could be lower than that to offset the quality implementation of the police department. [0:50:13, 0:50:30]: Um and as I believe I estimated we would end up with you know maybe needing one to one point five million dollars of the money that had been bonded so that bonded money could be used to offset interest expenses or or or or what have you. I did have the opportunity to speak to Mr. Wall. [0:50:31, 0:50:38]: And I believe that was his recommendation that if we didn't use the full bond amount, that those funds from that bond could be used to offset other expenses. [0:50:38, 0:50:43]: uh which would which would reduce um of course a liability to the city. [0:50:43, 0:50:57]: But again, uh if we decided to use the bond money for its intended purpose and not fully use the ARPA funds for that, we could potentially offset a lot of the salary uh costs of implementation of the department for the full year during 2023. [0:50:59, 0:51:01]: Outstanding, outstanding. I certainly [0:51:01, 0:51:04]: I appreciate that and uh thank you for the presentation. [0:51:05, 0:51:06]: Thank you. Thank you. [0:51:06, 0:51:10]: Any other council members having questions or comments uh for Mr. Tramor? [0:51:12, 0:51:13]: Ms. Gann, go ahead, please. [0:51:14, 0:51:15]: Thank you, Mayor. [0:51:16, 0:51:21]: Mr. Trammer, you mentioned the pot y you stated actually that we [0:51:22, 0:51:26]: that there's a possibility that we wouldn't have a tax in twenty twenty two. Is that correct? [0:51:27, 0:51:28]: That's correct. [0:51:29, 0:51:31]: Okay, and repeat how [0:51:32, 0:51:40]: It is that we wouldn't have a tax that's by using the ARPA funds, or is that because the ARPA funds would be for the startup cost of the police department? [0:51:40, 0:51:42]: Not necessarily the operating cost, correct? [0:51:44, 0:51:54]: No, the the ARPA funds could be used for salaries. So it could be used to pay for salaries for w we would have discretion in terms of how we decide to utilize those funds. Uh it's it's it's variable. [0:51:55, 0:52:01]: We could use it for capital expenses, we could use it to hire personnel. It's entirely up to us in terms of what we decide we want to do. [0:52:01, 0:52:07]: Um in in terms of the cost, it I estimated it's gonna be about three point three million dollars. [0:52:07, 0:52:12]: 'Cause we're only we're only talking about a half year. If we implement the police department July one. [0:52:12, 0:52:16]: It will cost us about three point three million dollars to be exact, three [0:52:16, 0:52:24]: Uh three million three hundred and twenty-five thousand dollars is the estimate to implement in the police department. I'm I'm gonna get my calculator out here, so bear with me just a second. [0:52:25, 0:52:39]: So three million three hundred and twenty-five thousand dollars and that would be for essentially seven months of the department because we have to onboard the complement of staff in June to get them trained and equipped and up to speed so that they can roll out July one. [0:52:39, 0:52:55]: So we have to estimate of that five point seven, five point eight million dollars that uh we basically need seven months of that. And so what we're gonna get too is we're gonna get the rollback July one. We're so we'll essentially be receiving um uh [0:52:55, 0:53:08]: $1,968,000 from the county in rollback, which leaves us with a deficit of$1,357,000. That would be what we would have to make up for. [0:53:09, 0:53:10]: Either through fund balance. [0:53:11, 0:53:15]: or through ARPA funding. So that would be the budget shortfall for the first year implementation. [0:53:16, 0:53:18]: Which we could do without the implementation of a tank. [0:53:19, 0:53:23]: Okay. So that's about that's a little bit over half a year. So [0:53:23, 0:53:23]: We're looking at [0:53:24, 0:53:27]: Five months worth. That's about five months. [0:53:27, 0:53:27]: Right. [0:53:28, 0:53:30]: So you what's the total cost for those five months again? [0:53:31, 0:53:38]: for for the seven months. The total cost for those seven months would be three million three hundred and twenty five thousand dollars. Okay,'cause you're starting in June, I'm sorry. Right. [0:53:38, 0:53:41]: All right, for the seven month three million, what now? [0:53:41, 0:53:43]: Three million three hundred twenty five thousand dollars. [0:53:44, 0:53:48]: Three so for seven months, three mil three hundred and twenty five thousand. [0:53:48, 0:53:50]: And you're saying that [0:53:51, 0:53:59]: Are you aware? Well, you know what, Mayor, do did the financial advisor get notice of tonight's meeting at all to be present? [0:54:00, 0:54:01]: Cause he's the numbers guy. [0:54:02, 0:54:17]: Right. No, he's he's actually out of town, but he's not gonna be present tonight. If we need to bring him in, we can get him at the next meeting. But he's he's at he's actually out of out of town, he's in Wyoming. Well that'll be good if we could have him. So we'll know exactly what the predictions are because I'm looking here. [0:54:18, 0:54:20]: And if if seven months is at three mil [0:54:21, 0:54:27]: Three point three, I'm sorry, three hundred three, three point three mil to five for seven months. [0:54:28, 0:54:33]: And that's what the startups, and I love the fact that the APRA funds are taking care of a lot of that. Um [0:54:34, 0:54:35]: However [0:54:36, 0:54:45]: When you look at the projections that they made from the last minute from the from the email that we received, and that's before the RPA five. [0:54:46, 0:54:52]: It showed a and that was with the three point five mil and the three percent interest increase. [0:54:53, 0:54:58]: It continued to show a constant decrease in our fund balance by 2024. [0:54:59, 0:55:03]: that balance was down by half to eleven months worth, right? [0:55:03, 0:55:10]: Well, if we do what Mayor Pro Tem Alexander stated, then it will be even less than that. [0:55:11, 0:55:14]: So we have comments here where [0:55:15, 0:55:22]: Their their court revenues are projected at 750 and not that you know Mr. Uh Chief Tramor. [0:55:22, 0:55:29]: is here and I understand you know the I wouldn't consider the revenue. I've always stated that. You know, these are fines. [0:55:29, 0:55:30]: Um [0:55:30, 0:55:33]: But I hope our goal is not to go around finding people. [0:55:33, 0:55:36]: And that's basically gonna cover the operation costs of our courtroom. [0:55:37, 0:55:41]: And so we still are in the hole. [0:55:41, 0:55:49]: And we still are then we're saying, okay, so we may not tax. Well, somebody's getting taxed because we're depleting all our funds if we don't. [0:55:50, 0:55:54]: Which one is it gonna be? We're either gonna deplete our fund balance even faster. [0:55:55, 0:55:56]: Or [0:55:57, 0:55:58]: We're going to [0:55:59, 0:56:01]: Um implement attacks. [0:56:02, 0:56:05]: I say that we still, you know. [0:56:07, 0:56:11]: Mayor Bra Tim says it's the citizens police. [0:56:11, 0:56:16]: If it's the citizens police, then the citizens should have had a say before we got to this point. [0:56:17, 0:56:20]: They didn't get that right. They didn't get that say. [0:56:22, 0:56:22]: And so [0:56:23, 0:56:29]: My concern again is our financials. It sounds great. [0:56:29, 0:56:33]: But the numbers have already gone up a million dollars, over a million dollars. [0:56:33, 0:56:41]: And I would like to see, and I'm pretty sure a lot of people in the community want community policing. That's what we've been talking about this entire time. [0:56:41, 0:56:52]: So at the very low, it's at five mil. But if you look at that average, I believe, Chief Tramor, you're saying that we're looking at a total amount about 6.9 mil. [0:56:53, 0:57:10]: Operating costs. That's about seven million dollars a year in operating costs. That's too a little bit more than it's about two mils more projected than what we came up with during the feasibility study. Which was kind of accurate. What number? I'm I'm sorry, Councilwoman. What number are you referring to that six million? [0:57:10, 0:57:11]: It was the [0:57:12, 0:57:14]: You gave a number of [0:57:14, 0:57:17]: So if the the bottom number was at five. [0:57:18, 0:57:21]: Right. And that was the l the smallest amount, the model. [0:57:22, 0:57:29]: Right. So you're talking about on the very high end of that scale. Is that is that what you were talking about? No, I'm talking about the mid mid range. [0:57:29, 0:57:31]: Yeah, six point nine million. [0:57:32, 0:57:35]: Yeah, that would be for six that'd be for seventy one employees. That would be for [0:57:36, 0:57:40]: 62 full-time sworn and nine civilian staff or 71 full-time employees. [0:57:41, 0:57:46]: Okay, based off of the chart and the average. So what's the middle range, the forty five employees? [0:57:46, 0:57:48]: So forty five uh well [0:57:48, 0:57:56]: One of the things I don't though fo we could get by with forty five, I believe that we'd be cutting ourselves too sh too short and it would be doing a disservice. So the estimation [0:57:57, 0:58:00]: Then I the recommendation I went with was at a minimum the forty nine employees. [0:58:01, 0:58:06]: Okay. So based on the forty nine employees, if we were to go with that model and we were to [0:58:06, 0:58:15]: you know, build upon that should that be necessary or or or should that be desired by the community. At the low end it's five point four on the high end it's five point eight. [0:58:16, 0:58:22]: Okay. So five po for the middle one, the forty the the middle one's almost five point seven. [0:58:23, 0:58:34]: Okay. Which is right around where the feasibility study is at 5.8. So it's not in the six range. And that that has to do with the operational cost. That's right. Right. Okay. Perfect. [0:58:35, 0:58:38]: So we're looking here still at our numbers. [0:58:38, 0:58:45]: And whether we take it from fund balance or whether we do the tax and implement the tax, which is going to happen. [0:58:45, 0:58:46]: Right. [0:58:46, 0:58:52]: We can say when or not, or it's not gonna be, but I'm looking here at the projections. [0:58:52, 0:59:00]: I would like Mr. Wall to come in and give us those projections based off of this email that we received on July 3rd, 2021. [0:59:02, 0:59:05]: I mean it it's right here. You've had an opportunity to read'em. [0:59:07, 0:59:07]: The one [0:59:08, 0:59:10]: Where they said that, you know [0:59:11, 0:59:14]: Assuming that everything comes back up and we don't hit the recession. [0:59:15, 0:59:18]: Same in twenty three and a five percent increase in twenty four. [0:59:19, 0:59:21]: Um, in regards to sales tax collections. [0:59:22, 0:59:24]: And if everything is going up. [0:59:24, 0:59:34]: Then our court revenues are projected around 750,000. Our property taxes will increase by 3% each year. Our city extra millage rate will be 3.5 mils. [0:59:34, 0:59:42]: And quite frankly, I don't care about that rollback getting because we have we we're providing those services, but we're still in the hole. [0:59:43, 0:59:44]: Sounds good. [0:59:46, 0:59:47]: But let's talk numbers. [0:59:48, 0:59:51]: Yeah, if I if I and and to the extent that that um [0:59:52, 0:59:57]: You all would like I did have the opportunity to speak with Mr. Wall regarding those projections that you were referring to. [0:59:57, 1:00:05]: And there were some unknown variables that existed when he prepared those projections. He forwarded me over that and uh [1:00:05, 1:00:07]: We were able to recalculate that and [1:00:07, 1:00:12]: And I believe that you'll see that the figures are different. I have that and prepared to show that to you if you would like to see that. [1:00:12, 1:00:18]: at the present moment and you can see how that's gonna play out based upon on uh the information that we know. [1:00:18, 1:00:24]: I would. I would love that. But on in addition to that, I would love to be able to speak to Mr. Wall about that. [1:00:25, 1:00:25]: Open. [1:00:25, 1:00:45]: Well, I'll tell you what we'll do. Ms. Wall's not here tonight. We'll make a point to get him at our next meeting, which is November eighth. In this aspect, he'll be back in town and uh we can uh plan to have him for that point. But if Mr. Chief Cramer, if you want to go forward with additional standby, Mr. Blount, you want to go forward with that, that that'd be fine if that's what you want to do to to to satisfy. [1:00:45, 1:00:48]: uh Miss Gantt's uh inquiry here. [1:00:51, 1:00:55]: Sure. So if you give me just a moment here. Mayor, mayor, mayor, if you will. [1:00:55, 1:01:05]: All right, while he's looking for that, go ahead. No, the reason I'm saying it because if he gives up if he gives us a presentation pertaining to what Mr. Wall gave him, we have not we don't have a chance to question Mr. Wall. [1:01:05, 1:01:09]: about numbers that now would be new numbers presented to us. So what's the point? [1:01:09, 1:01:11]: Well, I'll play it on Mr. Wall, that's fine. [1:01:11, 1:01:31]: I was trying to adhere to what Ms. Gann asked for, trying to make sure to satisfy her requirement. But No, I'll wait on Mr. Wall. All right, fine. Ms. Chief, no no no need. We'll we'll deal with this uh in the next meeting. Uh Miss Barber, go ahead, please. Uh m Mayor, you you told me to hold on. Oh well I thought that's what you wanted to talk about. No, no [1:01:31, 1:01:41]: No, no, I'm just I'm only I'm only commenting on on the another presentation without the person, you know. All right, Ms. Blount. Stand by Ms. Barber. Go away, Mr. Blount. [1:01:41, 1:01:42]: Uh [1:01:42, 1:01:51]: First of all, before I get into questioning uh what we just saw, uh city attorney, because uh we was told just [1:01:51, 1:01:55]: Three three weeks, uh I mean the last meeting and the meeting before that. [1:01:55, 1:02:00]: That to start a police department, we were talking about funds uh opera funds being used. [1:02:01, 1:02:03]: And established police departments. [1:02:03, 1:02:15]: that they can bring those in because they have the criteria already established to use those funds. Are you able to now use those funds, uh city attorney, if you don't already have an established police department? [1:02:18, 1:02:24]: Council member, I I'm not I mean, if Quentin wants to weigh in as well, I I don't know off the top of my head. I'm happy to look at that, but I just [1:02:25, 1:02:30]: Well what to to me that's important right now because we've been told [1:02:31, 1:02:43]: from several meetings that these criteria from already established police department and that they couldn't be used to start up a police department. But when any sorry something else, you get some feedback. [1:02:44, 1:02:53]: So when we bring in and say that we want to use it to start up a police department, no criteria have ever been presented to us in that effect. [1:02:53, 1:02:57]: And so this is why I would like must I would prefer Mr. Walls to be here. [1:02:57, 1:03:00]: To let us know that because [1:03:00, 1:03:11]: From my understanding, from what we know, that you can't start a police department. The criteria for those funds were implemented to apply for those were already established police departments. [1:03:11, 1:03:16]: So that's uh if if our city attorneys can get that information for us, I appreciate it. [1:03:17, 1:03:19]: But on the lower end. [1:03:20, 1:03:22]: Uh I'm getting some feedback from [1:03:24, 1:03:25]: On the lower end. [1:03:25, 1:03:27]: For what's been presented to us. [1:03:28, 1:03:39]: Because on the amount of employees that we're talking about, and and we can say that we're talking about seven months, but if we're talking about establishing the police department, I would like to see the projection for a year. [1:03:39, 1:03:44]: Because uh a police department from now on would be more than seven months. [1:03:45, 1:03:52]: We would like the citizens to know what a year would be. And on the lower end, you're talking almost eight billion dollars because here's the thing. [1:03:53, 1:03:56]: The numbers for officers does not include. [1:03:56, 1:04:14]: in in those numbers does not include civilians. And when you do include civilians as special services, we're talking about almost eight million dollars. And we haven't even talked about when you're talking about a 43,000 dollar salary, we haven't even talked about what the city's portion would be when it comes to benefits. [1:04:14, 1:04:22]: So you're talking about a forty-three thousand dollar salary that can go up twenty uh at least about twenty-five thousand dollars for business. [1:04:22, 1:04:34]: So we we're almost talking apple and orange. That's why I wish our financial advisor was here because we can't sit here and say a forty-three thousand dollar range on the lower end and we're talking about. [1:04:34, 1:04:36]: Uh employees need it. [1:04:36, 1:04:45]: And civilian employees need it. And we're right now, we're almost on the lower end. We're almost talking about annual eight million dollars, and we haven't even talked about benefits. [1:04:47, 1:04:48]: And so when we [1:04:48, 1:04:59]: Well, let's take let's look at this. We're talking about now almost, we're talking about now almost uh uh uh th uh six-eighths of our budget right now. [1:04:59, 1:05:05]: When you talk about employees, the police implementation and salaries, and we haven't talked about benefits. [1:05:05, 1:05:10]: Now is does that forty three thousand dollars include benefits, uh Ms. Strainer? [1:05:12, 1:05:18]: So all those projections, the final numbers include personnel services benefits. I was able to work with human resources and equate the cost of that. [1:05:19, 1:05:39]: I don't know where you're getting the eight million dollars from for that service for 49 sworn officers and nine civilian employees. The mid-range cost is about five point seven million dollars. When you when you talked about the special services, you talked about one point eight one point eight plus million dollars. When you talked about the other services other than the sworn officers on the lower end. [1:05:39, 1:05:41]: in for the officers you talked about six [1:05:41, 1:05:47]: uh six point five, I think it was something million, something like that. I'm I'm going off the numbers you present. [1:05:48, 1:06:01]: So you're talking about the high end of the the scale. All the numbers. No, no, the numbers you I'm sorry, that's trying to the numbers you presented. I'm talking about the lower end. These are on the lower ends what you presented to us. When you talk about the number officers. [1:06:01, 1:06:11]: the range of salaries and then you're talking about adding special services and this and in a lot of those areas and it tells because you look at the numbers, it didn't include civilian. [1:06:11, 1:06:20]: employees and then i'm and i'm pretty sure that forty three thousand dollars didn't include include um benefit [1:06:21, 1:06:28]: They include benefits, sir. If you would like me, I can pull the slide up. The benefits are broken down actually as a separate line item if you'd like me to go. [1:06:28, 1:06:39]: So then then we're talking about then we're talking about the the the we're talking about the cost of an officer starting in the city of Stockbridge then being about thirty, uh you're talking about thirty-two thousand dollars. [1:06:40, 1:06:40]: No sir. [1:06:41, 1:06:45]: So you take 43,000, add roughly 25% of that. That would be the total cost of that office. [1:06:47, 1:06:49]: I'm sorry, I don't hear you, Mr. Emissar. [1:06:49, 1:07:09]: If if you were to take whatever the salary is, add 25% to that. That's the cost of the office. And that was equated in the budget. So the personnel services costs included all 58 employees for that last projection there. So for 58 employees with benefits. [1:07:09, 1:07:22]: Taking into account overtime costs and operating costs. So everything accounted for is between 5.4 to 5.8 close to$5.9 million based on that staffing model. [1:07:22, 1:07:30]: So when you take the so when you take the the twenty five percent from the forty three thousand, so you're looking at about uh roughly um [1:07:30, 1:07:32]: Uh, ten thousand dollars. [1:07:33, 1:07:39]: So you're saying that we're looking at hiring offices at thirty three thousand with benefits forty three thousand. Is that what you're saying? [1:07:41, 1:07:42]: Yeah. [1:07:42, 1:07:53]: The the the numbers that you saw in terms of salary there, that's what the officer salary is gonna be. So you would add twenty-five percent to that. That's gonna give you the total cost for that officer inclusive of benefits. [1:07:54, 1:08:11]: So that$43,000 with 25% added to it is going to be about$53,750, and your math was about right, around$10,000 extra when you account for benefits for that officer. And all those numbers have been taken into consideration and factored in that overall budget. [1:08:11, 1:08:15]: But when we looked at what I'm saying in the presentation you gave us. [1:08:16, 1:08:20]: The forty three thousand dollars did not it wasn't inclusive of the ten thousand. [1:08:21, 1:08:26]: And so when you include the ten thousand, I'm I'm just going by the the presentation we just got. [1:08:26, 1:08:32]: It didn't include the$10,000. And when you include the$10,000 along with special services, [1:08:32, 1:08:37]: Look at look at what was presented to us. We're looking at almost eight million dollars. [1:08:38, 1:08:40]: Annually, I'm not talking about the seven months. [1:08:41, 1:08:45]: A police department is not for seven months, it's for a year. And then we'll still [1:08:45, 1:08:58]: in in in the uh was still in in the in the point of order point of order point of argumentative the chief is presenting argumentative i asked the council but mayor can you can you i'm i'm i'm sitting here argumentative [1:09:01, 1:09:03]: Mayor, you gotta unmute mute. You gotta unmute, Mayor. [1:09:05, 1:09:09]: I'm sorry about that. Go ahead, Mr. Blount. Mayor Potem, let him finish his comments, please. [1:09:10, 1:09:10]: Go ahead. [1:09:11, 1:09:21]: What I'm saying, so you're going from$43,000 per person now to$53,000 per person because you're saying now we add to 25%, roughly$10,000. [1:09:21, 1:09:26]: Now these now this is on the lower end on your chart. [1:09:26, 1:09:34]: Of employees. And when you talk about the lower end, coupled with um the special services that are needed. [1:09:35, 1:09:42]: And and right now, I can't even ask our city attorneys, are we gonna be able to use APRA fund? Because we was told that we couldn't. [1:09:42, 1:09:55]: But that still with the presentation you gave us is almost eight million doll annually. I'm not talking about the seven months. I just want to make sure that that's this is why we needed our financial advisor on here to crunch numbers for us. [1:09:56, 1:10:16]: That this doesn't become a political thing. It doesn't come become politicians and all of this. It would be something direct to the citizens that would crunch numbers, have crunch numbers that we paid for, that we would actually get the actual numbers because what is being said and what is being calculated are two different things. [1:10:16, 1:10:16]: Nice. [1:10:19, 1:10:29]: When we talk about$43,000, now we're talking about$53,000 because we didn't take account that$10 million. Why aren't we, why are we rushing this presentation? [1:10:29, 1:10:47]: makes no sense to me when we should have done this presentation with our financial advisor on here, with our attorneys with the full knowledge of what we funds we can use. Why are we rushing this presentation? Blows my mind because questions right now cannot be answered. [1:10:49, 1:10:54]: Well Mr. Blount, if I if I if I could just clarify for just a moment here, sir, and what I would like to do. [1:10:55, 1:11:01]: is um I I would like to just refer back to the slide that I think you were you were speaking of. [1:11:01, 1:11:04]: And um I don't know if you can you can see. [1:11:05, 1:11:06]: We can see it. Can you see the screen? [1:11:08, 1:11:15]: So so sir, if you if you look at these figures here, the the regular salary, so if you were to take the the [1:11:15, 1:11:22]: The numbers that you saw there that forty-three thousand, and you were to calculate the salaries for all fifty-eight employees based on where they fall on the scale. [1:11:23, 1:11:26]: Their their their base salaries would be about$3.4 million. [1:11:27, 1:11:47]: We've also got in the model some part-time employees reporting things along those lines. Uh overtime is about two point five percent of the overall budget. So overtime's factored there. And this is where the employer provided benefits come in. So that's that additional ten thousand dollars that you're talking about. That would be that would be it's already factored for. And you pull the operating costs are roughly twenty percent. [1:11:47, 1:12:00]: percent of the overall cost of the budget. So that's where these numbers are calculated. There's nothing that's not accounted for, Councilman. Councilman, let me follow up with this. Can you pull the one up with the base salaries? [1:12:01, 1:12:09]: No, it's scenario number two and not number three. You told me you prefer not a point of order. Any point of order. [1:12:10, 1:12:13]: Miss Gan is not recognized and you allow this to go on. [1:12:15, 1:12:18]: I've got it. Go ahead. [1:12:18, 1:12:19]: Yeah. [1:12:19, 1:12:24]: What I'm asking Mr. Trenari number two. What I'm asking you, Chief Tramer. [1:12:25, 1:12:28]: Yeah. If you would pull up the slide that shows [1:12:28, 1:12:35]: the base salary range from the from the low to the mid to the higher on the on the one that you recommend. [1:12:38, 1:12:43]: Okay, so this is the are you talking about this slide here, Councilman Blount with the base salary for the police officer? [1:12:43, 1:12:47]: What what is the what is the what is the uh minimum on that? [1:12:47, 1:12:49]: The men was forty three thousand one fifty nine. [1:12:50, 1:13:10]: And down now with that with that cost, that's not calculated with the ten thousand dollars that you said, which is is actually more when we talk about benefits for this uh in the city of Stockbridge. Benefits for each employee is more than$10,000, but let's say$10,000. So that number goes to$53,000 per person, but you [1:13:10, 1:13:14]: You said, but you said that in the in the range and I'm I'm [1:13:15, 1:13:17]: See trying, but trust me, I'm not trying to put your I'm not [1:13:18, 1:13:24]: Forgive me, I'm not putting you on trial. I'm only trying to get numbers on the decision the citizens are about to make. [1:13:25, 1:13:31]: pertaining to this police department and be open and and and and uh uh straightforward with what we're actually doing. [1:13:31, 1:13:40]: Those numbers are not adding up. And this is why we needed our financial advisor here because that that minimum of forty-three thousand dollars. [1:13:41, 1:13:50]: is really a minimum of fifty-three thousand dollars, but it's gonna be more than that because we pay more than that per employee for benefits and you're talking about and you're talking about [1:13:51, 1:13:55]: Uh the number of employees for that, those numbers crunched. [1:13:55, 1:14:02]: Is gonna come up to with with the special services, those numbers are gonna bring us to almost eight million dollars. [1:14:02, 1:14:03]: Trust me on that. [1:14:04, 1:14:18]: Now, Mr. Blount, if you were to looking at this scenario here, sir, so this$3.4 million, let's just say we're hiring one officer. That officer, let's just say using your number is$43,000. That would be the number that would go right there for regular employee salaries. [1:14:19, 1:14:34]: The$10,000 would be the number where you see$857,000, that would be the$10,000. So if you were to add the$43 plus 10, you're going to get the overall projected budget. So the point that I'm trying to make is that what you're saying was already accounted for in these numbers. [1:14:34, 1:14:54]: But those, but I'm saying, but uh Chief Tramer, those numbers right there are based on are based on an average that's not true. That's not okay. Have you gotten with HR and found out what the average, what is the cost of the benefits per employee? And those are the numbers we crunch. [1:14:54, 1:15:00]: Yes, not the ones that speculative, but the actual numbers. And those aren't the actual numbers. [1:15:01, 1:15:03]: Sir, I have gotten the actual numbers, with all due respect. [1:15:04, 1:15:13]: And that's what we need is the actual numbers. Those aren't the actual numbers on the amount of employees. They're not the actual numbers, I'm telling you now. [1:15:13, 1:15:33]: Well hold on, Miss Gantt. Not and not you're not done at your turn just yet. What I want to tell you uh right now, everybody, is that I've talked to Mr. Wall. Mr. Wall is out of the state. He's visiting his family, his daughter, matter of fact, and celebrating her birthday. That is why he's not here. I made the decision not to bring him in here tonight simply because of that. [1:15:33, 1:15:40]: I mentioned several times already tonight that we'll make sure he's here on November eighth. We'll go down this road if we need to go down this road. [1:15:41, 1:15:45]: He's not gonna be he's not available. Okay. On that note to you. [1:15:46, 1:15:50]: To you and not Chief Chief Train thank you, Chief Chamber, anyway. Uh but to you, Mayor. [1:15:51, 1:15:52]: If we're not able [1:15:53, 1:16:13]: To crunch numbers with Mr. Walls and the numbers that are being presented to us, why are we doing a presentation tonight? This is the part where I say it gets too political for me because this presentation did not have to happen tonight, but it is, and now it gets all convoluted because we can't get. [1:16:13, 1:16:25]: We can't get the questions answered we need. And see, this is why, because you're going to continue to get uh uh uh this intrusion from other council members because we are in a political season. [1:16:26, 1:16:35]: Right now, uh uh uh uh uh uh election season. And this meeting should not have happened without the proper people in place to answer the questions. [1:16:35, 1:16:37]: This tonight should not have happened. [1:16:37, 1:16:51]: I'm sorry I started to feel that way, but it's it's too late. He's he he won't be here. He's not going to be here. We'll do this if we need to have him come forward. Once again, November 8th is the time to set him up for that. On that note, uh I'd like to go to Miss Barber. Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [1:16:56, 1:16:58]: Thank you, Mayor. And thank you, Chief Tramer. [1:16:59, 1:16:59]: Um [1:17:00, 1:17:03]: I'll I'll admit I was a bit concerned with [1:17:04, 1:17:06]: Our ability to sustain [1:17:06, 1:17:09]: Um a police department, however. [1:17:09, 1:17:11]: This presentation that [1:17:11, 1:17:13]: Tief Tramer has provided his [1:17:13, 1:17:14]: Very thorough. [1:17:15, 1:17:19]: Very thorough. I've been saying let's start slow and small. [1:17:20, 1:17:22]: But this gives me a different perspective. [1:17:23, 1:17:24]: We can actually [1:17:25, 1:17:25]: Fun in. [1:17:26, 1:17:29]: Full fun functional police department. [1:17:29, 1:17:30]: Next year. [1:17:31, 1:17:34]: And not have to impose a tax. [1:17:35, 1:17:42]: One of the things that we have not emphasized is other funding sources that we can use. [1:17:43, 1:17:46]: Not only for startup costs. [1:17:46, 1:17:47]: But to help. [1:17:47, 1:17:48]: Um [1:17:48, 1:17:49]: With [1:17:49, 1:17:50]: Operating cost. [1:17:50, 1:17:53]: Um for the next couple of years. [1:17:54, 1:18:05]: Is it true, Chief Tramor, that the ARPA funding that you mentioned, we're able to use that through the end of December 2024? [1:18:06, 1:18:21]: Yeah, as assuming we're eligible for that, it can be used to December thirty first of twenty twenty four. And the thing is, is that I think that what we have to look at is is that we show there's a nexus between what the city's doing to reduce crime for the pandemic. [1:18:21, 1:18:31]: Now, whether that money is going to Henry County or it's going to a newly established police department that's addressing these issues, I think that we just have to show a nexus that these issues are being addressed. [1:18:32, 1:18:39]: And I I I you're not gonna find a lot of case examples where you're having a startup department because a lot of these things are already new to begin with. [1:18:39, 1:18:52]: And um I'm not an attorney. Those things can be verified, but I think that whether you're paying Henry County or you're starting a new police department, it seems to me it should be something that we would be able to utilize those funds for, just based on what I've been seeing across the industry. [1:18:53, 1:19:01]: Awesome. Um I have participated on a couple of the calls that GMA have provided with information on. [1:19:01, 1:19:04]: The criteria for ARPA funding. [1:19:04, 1:19:09]: And they did mention um about the legislation that President Biden. [1:19:10, 1:19:10]: Had approved. [1:19:11, 1:19:16]: Um so ARPA funding can be used for certain things such as communication equipment. [1:19:17, 1:19:20]: And so forth. Now, other than ARPA funding. [1:19:20, 1:19:24]: I know that there are some state and maybe even some federal grants. [1:19:24, 1:19:27]: That can be used for um [1:19:27, 1:19:31]: Equipment that police officers need, such as bulletproof webs. [1:19:32, 1:19:33]: Those sorts of things. [1:19:34, 1:19:34]: Um [1:19:35, 1:19:38]: Are you aware of any of those grants? [1:19:40, 1:19:48]: Yes, ma'am. My previous previous agency at Georgia Tech, we were able to offset expenses for ballistic vests through grant funding through the National Institute of Justice that provided those. [1:19:48, 1:19:57]: We able to secure grant funding to pay for body worn cameras. Um there's there's there's hundreds, uh literally hundreds of grants that are available out there. [1:19:57, 1:19:58]: Um [1:19:59, 1:20:04]: Mm-hmm. They you just have to research them and you have to you have to apply for them and you have to adhere to the requirements. [1:20:05, 1:20:25]: those grants. I mean there's there's a lot of talk now about um um providing funding specifically for community oriented policing like we saw back in the 90s so there may be additional funding for that in the future uh so there's a lot of lot of different sources out there that I know the feasibility study didn't address but I can assure you this that as I said before this is not my department [1:20:24, 1:20:35]: department and I want to be a good steward too of the resources that the city has. And so we're going to do everything we can in our power to offset those expenses such that they don't become a burden for members of our community. [1:20:35, 1:20:42]: Awesome. Thank you. Thank you very much. If you don't mind, can you remove your slide so I can actually see? [1:20:43, 1:20:45]: Everybody's face is on here. [1:20:46, 1:20:57]: So I wanted to also ask you, Chief Tramer, did you also include a position for someone specifically to go after those grants? [1:21:00, 1:21:20]: Um, I d I did not. I know that we had been discussing, as a matter of fact, Mr. Wiggins and I were discussing this the other day uh because there's grant funding that exists not just for the police department but citywide. And so it may be worthwhile because I believe that we pay dividends to have a specialist that deals with grant funding to be able to secure us additional sources of income. I know we're using the contract. [1:21:20, 1:21:26]: I don't think that really worked to our advantage, but you see a lot of organizations that do have specialists. [1:21:26, 1:21:34]: uh with experience in grants that they bring on board that that are able to uh provide a lot of additional uh revenue streams for the city. [1:21:35, 1:21:38]: Awesome. Awesome. One last question. So um [1:21:40, 1:21:50]: I am excited and I know uh several people that I've spoken with are excited about your upcoming listening sessions. Um, so thank you for. [1:21:50, 1:21:56]: scheduling those, um, I think it's important that we get out in the community and start sharing. [1:21:56, 1:22:05]: All of this information. And I'm sure the citizens will be quite happy to know that there are other funding sources that can be used. [1:22:05, 1:22:10]: to help with the startup cost of this police department. So thank you very much for your presentation, sir. [1:22:11, 1:22:13]: Councilman Thomas, go ahead, please. [1:22:14, 1:22:19]: Thank you, May. And and Mayor, I would encourage you to take control of this meeting, if you will. [1:22:20, 1:22:20]: Um [1:22:22, 1:22:25]: Mr. Trama, I I just want to thank you for this presentation. [1:22:26, 1:22:30]: And and just let me say that for me, this is not political. [1:22:30, 1:22:32]: Um we have [1:22:32, 1:22:36]: started the Stockbridge Police Department. That's a fact. [1:22:37, 1:22:38]: Mago [1:22:39, 1:22:40]: Is to ensure [1:22:41, 1:22:42]: That we have public safety. [1:22:43, 1:22:45]: In the city of Starkbridge. [1:22:45, 1:22:47]: For our neighborhoods, for our citizens. [1:22:48, 1:22:51]: And for the businesses that operate here in the city of Stockbridge. [1:22:52, 1:22:56]: That is our goal. That is my goal. Let me say that from the beginning. [1:22:56, 1:23:06]: I I do want to thank you for your presentation. I want to thank you for meeting with me to give me the opportunity to ask. [1:23:06, 1:23:26]: A lot of questions, many of the questions that was asked here tonight. And I know for a fact that you reached out to every council member to give them the opportunity to get a better understanding of this path forward. And some of them chose not to. And if you're talking political, then they want to choose this opportunity to. [1:23:26, 1:23:36]: you know cbtv but just let me say chief i i just thank you for this presentation now again i thank you for um allowing me to ask those questions [1:23:37, 1:23:39]: I think your presentation was thorough. [1:23:39, 1:23:44]: Um, I read it several times. I met with you. I heard you tonight. [1:23:44, 1:23:47]: I think you laid it out perfectly. [1:23:47, 1:23:51]: Um I know that you know you you met with HR, you stated that. [1:23:52, 1:23:55]: Uh you did your due diligence. You met with HR. [1:23:55, 1:23:57]: You had a conversation with Mr. Walls? [1:23:58, 1:24:01]: I know that you have read the um opera uh um [1:24:01, 1:24:02]: The document. [1:24:03, 1:24:08]: You have read the uh uh feasibility study, you have done your homework. [1:24:08, 1:24:24]: And now you are laying this out. And I think it was thorough. And you laid it out perfectly. So I I just want to thank you. And I know Mr. Night is probably watching. And I just wanna thank him for uh bringing you forward. It is clear uh why he brought you forward. [1:24:25, 1:24:45]: Uh you were his choice. I want to commend this counsel for confirming you. Uh, and I see why now, because uh you have done your due diligence. You have done your homework, and this presentation is just without without question for me. Uh, I think you have indicated all scenarios. Uh, [1:24:44, 1:24:57]: We also met with the Henry County Tax Commissioner, and we have never said that it would not be a tax, but I think what you're saying is that the tax may be a little further down the road. [1:24:57, 1:25:17]: But it but at any point, you know, um the police department is going forward. And and I think the citizen, from what I understand, citizens are on board with the police Stockbridge Police Department. Yes, there are some some some concerns about tax. And I think uh the Henry County Tax Commissioner laid that out. You even mentioned that tonight. [1:25:17, 1:25:23]: in in your presentation what that would look like. So I I don't see what the [1:25:23, 1:25:24]: Um [1:25:25, 1:25:30]: I I I don't see what the controversy is tonight. I don't see any um [1:25:30, 1:25:35]: uh um you know questions uh and I you know and I'm I'm just [1:25:36, 1:25:56]: I'm just a little saddened by the confrontation and the drill because I think you came forward tonight. And I know again, you tried to meet with everyone before this presentation to give everyone an opportunity to ask the question. As I did, I met with you and I asked a million of questions. [1:25:56, 1:26:01]: And you were able to answer all of those. So I'm just saying, you know. [1:26:03, 1:26:15]: We just need to be about moving the city forward. It is all about protecting our citizens. It's all about protecting these business owners that's coming in. [1:26:16, 1:26:23]: We have made it clear that yes, there will be some form of attack. So I'm just saying we as an elected body. [1:26:24, 1:26:29]: This is the lane that we should be in. But what I'm hearing tonight is something totally different. [1:26:30, 1:26:36]: You know, the fighting against trying to protect our citizens, fighting against trying to protect the business owners. [1:26:36, 1:26:43]: So I I don't understand this. So Chief, again, just let me just say thank you. [1:26:43, 1:26:50]: You have done your homework. I know this because you and I talked about the research, and it's obvious. [1:26:51, 1:26:57]: It is obvious that you've done all your homework and you have laid out a tremendous plan here tonight. [1:26:57, 1:26:59]: And this is the path forward. [1:26:59, 1:27:01]: Anyone that's watching [1:27:02, 1:27:16]: Anyone who is watching this program tonight and this meeting tonight, they can see the path forward. And they can also see based on the tax commissioner uh report and your report. [1:27:16, 1:27:19]: Да іф и [1:27:19, 1:27:22]: There is a tax, it will be minimum. [1:27:23, 1:27:41]: And as we go forward in years to come, we're going to continue to work this out to make sure that that tax is always minimum back to our citizen. But without a doubt, we have to go forward. I do not see how we cannot. [1:27:42, 1:27:45]: I do not see how we cannot provide. [1:27:46, 1:27:59]: public safety here in the city of Styrid. I don't see that. So Chief, I just want to thank you. Mr. Knight, I want to thank you. I know you're watching. I want to thank you for bringing your candidate forward. [1:28:00, 1:28:10]: This is your candidate and the city council confirmed your choice. So I just want to thank you for this total process and future forward for the city of Styrid. Thank you. [1:28:11, 1:28:27]: I appreciate it. Everybody on the council has spoken and had a extended time on speaking. So we're going to move on to the next subject. Thank you, Mr. Trayman, for your chief trainer, for your presentation. We'll deal with this at our next meeting. Okay. Further, if we need to do so. I'll move on to a public hearing. [1:28:28, 1:28:48]: Council consideration approved 2021 to 2026 short-term work program, capital improvement element, STWP CIE annual update. At the August 31st, 2021 City Council meeting, the mayor and council approved the transmit meet the STM, excuse me, STWP CIE document. [1:28:48, 1:28:55]: to the Georgia Department of Community Affairs and Atlanta Regional Commission for review, presented by Ms. Johnson, please. [1:28:56, 1:29:05]: Good evening, Mayor, Council members, and residents. So, yes, the short-term work program and the capital improvements element are [1:29:05, 1:29:17]: Programs are things that we have to do on an annual basis in order to maintain our qualified local government status. And that means that we have to meet the minimum standards via the state. [1:29:18, 1:29:38]: So the document that you all reviewed and uh moved forward was transmitting to the Atlanta Regional Commission and Department of Community Affairs. That was in August. They have reviewed it, they don't have any issues and have approved it on their side. And we are just formally making the approval here tonight. [1:29:38, 1:29:42]: Once the approval is complete, we will submit the resolution with the mayor's signature. [1:29:43, 1:30:02]: to the state and we will get a finalized statement that we meet our current our our local state requirements for the city of Stockbridge and we'll do this again on an annual basis as those projects on the list are completed so that we can give those updates. [1:30:02, 1:30:05]: And if you have any questions, I'm happy to answer. [1:30:05, 1:30:08]: Okay, good. Council, any questions for Ms. Johnson at all? [1:30:09, 1:30:11]: [5412.1, 5416.1]: I just want uh all of these situations I like to take advantage of this time. [1:30:16, 1:30:22]: Short-term work program. Half of the people watching have n most of the people watching have no idea what it is. [1:30:22, 1:30:31]: Explain what these projects are because I want folks to understand that this council is systematic in the way that we do things. [1:30:31, 1:30:37]: The region requires us to for a qualified local government status to have a plan in place. [1:30:37, 1:30:41]: We have a plan in place for these projects that have been ticked off. [1:30:41, 1:30:45]: The amphitheater didn't just pop up. It was one of the plans. [1:30:45, 1:30:48]: The Cultural Arts Center didn't just pop up, it was planned. [1:30:49, 1:30:59]: the youth senior citizen is the youth senior center is not just gonna pop up. It's it's the next project up after the Culture Arts Center. So as we go down. [1:30:59, 1:31:08]: This line of what we're doing uh in terms of parks into the city, in terms of infrastructure and everything that we're hoping to do. [1:31:08, 1:31:10]: uh inclusive of [1:31:10, 1:31:11]: you know, funding. [1:31:11, 1:31:19]: And as we understand right now, uh some of the projects that we have on our list in terms of traffic, everybody's talking about traffic. [1:31:19, 1:31:22]: Rock Quarry Road is on the T-SPLOST list. [1:31:22, 1:31:32]: the funding mechanism for to widen Rock Quarry Road and all of these projects and the sidewalks that we're uh trying to do in the community. [1:31:32, 1:31:39]: Everything that we do must be a part of the plan. Otherwise, it does not qualify. [1:31:39, 1:31:57]: for matching funds or grants uh through these uh the Atlanta Regional Commission and the various entities. So Ms. Johnson, talk about that in detail, mention some of these projects and understand that the import so the citizens understand the importance of what we're doing. [1:31:58, 1:32:13]: We can highlight some things as well. Yeah, highlight some. Sure, sure. Um, I I can bring it up on my screen just so we can see a couple of the projects. Um so I mean you explained it very well, Come here Protam. We this particular [1:32:14, 1:32:16]: Um, draft a document. [1:32:16, 1:32:24]: Is so that we have a plan for funding for different projects throughout the city so that we don't we're not acting randomly. [1:32:25, 1:32:26]: And how we [1:32:26, 1:32:31]: have projects or decide on projects and that we make sure we complete them. This is all about [1:32:31, 1:32:33]: Seeing it from beginning to end. [1:32:34, 1:32:38]: So the short-term work program, which used to be a five year plan. [1:32:39, 1:32:45]: Which is embedded in our comprehensive plan, which is our overall twenty-five to thirty year plan for development. [1:32:46, 1:33:06]: It was required on a five year basis. However, you know, a lot can get lost in five years. But if you keep an update going on an annual basis, then we can let the state know and our residents know what we're doing and what we're completing and what we're still in the process of doing. So this is the beginning of it. Can everyone see my screen? [1:33:06, 1:33:10]: Yeah, we can see it. Go ahead, please. I'm gonna scroll down so please mind by [1:33:12, 1:33:14]: Uh my cursor is a little [1:33:15, 1:33:25]: It's a little interesting. All right. So here are some of the projects we have. I mean, the amphitheater for once, see, I told you it was a little temperamental, you guys. So bear with me if you will. Okay. [1:33:25, 1:33:26]: So the amphitheater. [1:33:27, 1:33:31]: was a major project. We put twenty-three million dollars into it. [1:33:32, 1:33:35]: And and the state requires that we say. [1:33:36, 1:33:56]: The city of Stockbridge is going to have certain projects, whether they are gonna be, but they're all for the for the betterment of the city, the residents, distances. Remember, it all goes back to um how who we serve. We serve our city, our council, our city, our city manager, we serve. [1:33:56, 1:34:06]: the businesses, our development community, and our residents. So all these things are culmination. Like we have a cultural arts center that is a project that's currently underway. [1:34:07, 1:34:11]: And we'll be bringing that back in the next month or so for an update. [1:34:11, 1:34:26]: And it outlines not only projects that will do like hardscape, but it also addresses resurfacing of roads, road widening projects. And as Mary Pretend mentioned, T Splos is all about transportation. It's about [1:34:27, 1:34:47]: pedestrian transportation, which are trails, sidewalks, and then you have road improvements like resurfacing and road widening and other improvements. This is all to improve our city for economic development. So that we can have those businesses that say, oh wow, City of Stockbridge has an amphitheater, anticultural [1:34:47, 1:34:59]: Art Center and they're doing a lot of you know a lot in the downtown area, those are cues and ways that people want to be around. Those are areas and projects people want to be involved in. [1:34:59, 1:35:08]: So um to continue on, there are other projects in community development, which are mostly you know land use driven, zoning driven. [1:35:08, 1:35:12]: And then you have public works which are utilities, sewer. [1:35:12, 1:35:15]: and and the like. And you have economic development. [1:35:16, 1:35:20]: And these headings like community facilities, economic development. [1:35:21, 1:35:29]: Things like that, those are all elements of that, like I mentioned, the 25 to 30 year plan, which is our comprehensive plan. And it's just a drill down. [1:35:31, 1:35:36]: of that. So we're establishing different um organizations and associations. [1:35:37, 1:35:47]: And the different trail systems. We have a UDC that is underway. So things like this, these are improving the plans we have. [1:35:48, 1:35:49]: And again. [1:35:49, 1:36:01]: seeing them through from beginning to end. And that's the goal of meeting this minimum standards for the state. They require that we submit that information. And if things, you know. [1:36:01, 1:36:08]: If they have questions, they'll reach out. If they feel that there need to be some changes made, they will provide those as well. [1:36:08, 1:36:15]: So this kind of gives you some idea of that. And we have dollar amounts and how long it's gonna take us to do these projects. [1:36:17, 1:36:24]: So the capital improvements element piece are the major projects that we're putting serious funding behind. [1:36:24, 1:36:28]: Most of these projects are, you know,$200,000 and more. [1:36:29, 1:36:30]: So [1:36:31, 1:36:38]: If there are no other questions, that kind of sums up my overview of what a short-term work program is and our requirements per the state. [1:36:39, 1:36:40]: Yeah, Mrs. Thomas go ahead, please, sir. [1:36:41, 1:36:44]: Thank you, Mira, and thank you, uh Mrs. Johnson. [1:36:44, 1:36:50]: Uh I'd just like to add to to to the Mayor Pro Tem's comment and yours as well, Mrs. Johnson. [1:36:50, 1:36:54]: And and and and my comments are just based on [1:36:54, 1:36:57]: trying to to expound on [1:36:58, 1:37:04]: The obligations and the responsibility of of this elected body and all municipal government. [1:37:05, 1:37:07]: Um the short term work. [1:37:07, 1:37:08]: Um [1:37:08, 1:37:09]: Two. [1:37:10, 1:37:13]: It's no more but a two. [1:37:14, 1:37:16]: Ту асист і провадин. [1:37:17, 1:37:19]: Improve services. [1:37:20, 1:37:21]: To our citizenry. [1:37:23, 1:37:25]: We are about [1:37:26, 1:37:28]: service delivery. [1:37:29, 1:37:34]: And this is our main objective and this is our main goal when it comes to legislation. [1:37:35, 1:37:36]: Policy creation. [1:37:37, 1:37:39]: It's all geared toward [1:37:39, 1:37:43]: service delivery improvements. [1:37:43, 1:37:45]: Everything that we do [1:37:46, 1:37:50]: as for a municipal government has to be about improving [1:37:51, 1:37:55]: the services that we deliver to our citizenry. [1:37:55, 1:37:58]: Whether we're talking about public safety. [1:37:58, 1:38:08]: Or we're talking about improving roads, or we talk about improvements in public works, improvements in sewage, water, what have you. [1:38:09, 1:38:15]: This is what we're about, so I'm saying all this just to say we have to stay focused. [1:38:15, 1:38:17]: On the objective. [1:38:18, 1:38:21]: And and while we are here, while we are elected. [1:38:22, 1:38:24]: And we have to be conscious of providing. [1:38:25, 1:38:32]: Quality service. We cannot sit back on the services that we provided last year. [1:38:33, 1:38:35]: It's all about improving. [1:38:36, 1:38:56]: Our service delivery. And so this is just a tool, a systematic tool that we use to be able to focus on those things that we are obligated and responsible to do in municipal government and in the city of Stockbridge. So I just want to share that and it's [1:38:56, 1:39:04]: Sometimes I think that gets lost in, as someone said, it gets lost in the politics of everything. [1:39:04, 1:39:15]: But it's all about service delivery and improving upon those services every day. And during this time of the year when we're talking budget. [1:39:15, 1:39:18]: We have to be about improving. [1:39:19, 1:39:24]: improving services to our citizens and this is what they look for. [1:39:24, 1:39:27]: Thank you, Mayor, and I yield back and Miss Johnson, thank you. [1:39:27, 1:39:29]: Appreciate it. Any other comments from the council? [1:39:31, 1:39:51]: Okay. Well, this is a public hearing, uh public uh hearingness aspect as well. So I'd like to open it up uh for the public if anybody's online to make any comments for uh this particular short-term work program, the annual update. And I I cannot see anybody at this point, so I'm not sure if there's anybody out there on the public. [1:39:51, 1:40:03]: to making a comment, whether or not Ms. Holliday, if you can see that or if there's something uh somehow our IT kind of identify somebody in that nature, anybody for. [1:40:03, 1:40:09]: Mayor, I I do not see any questions relating to this particular public hearing item. [1:40:09, 1:40:11]: In the chat, yeah. [1:40:11, 1:40:18]: And Mayor Ford, Mayor Ford, this is the public information officer. At this time, there are no questions or comments on Facebook as well. [1:40:19, 1:40:33]: All right, then I'll uh close that part of the house with any comments against uh the public work program. Any comments whatsoever. And I would imagine by the public information officer's statement, there's no comments once whatsoever one way or the other. Is that correct? [1:40:35, 1:40:36]: Yes, sir, that is true at this time. [1:40:37, 1:40:52]: Okay, and Miss Holiday, you see nothing as well. Is that correct? Likewise on the Zoom. Okay, then I will close out uh the public hearing. And on that note, then uh council, I need a motion to accept this uh the uh the short-term work program annual update. [1:40:52, 1:40:53]: Oh. [1:40:53, 1:41:06]: Okay, is there a second? Mr. Thomas seconds at all. Um any question, further discussion? Any further discussion? All in favor, please indicate. Okay. Okay. And Mr. Blount, are you voting? [1:41:07, 1:41:15]: Okay. Tony. Okay, you okay, got it. So I'd say that's a unanimous decision in this aspect. Thank you very much, Council. [1:41:16, 1:41:20]: We're going to new business. Oh, Miss Ms. Johnson, thank you very much for your presentation. Appreciate it. [1:41:20, 1:41:22]: Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Council members. [1:41:23, 1:41:27]: Council consideration approved the Doctor Road Program presented by Mr. Aaron, please. [1:41:28, 1:41:29]: Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. [1:41:30, 1:41:46]: In May of this year, the youth council approached uh the city manager about adopting a road to maintain and beautify within the city limits of Stockbridge. And we didn't have a program in place. So this is a process that formalizes the adopt the road program. [1:41:46, 1:41:53]: It requires certain documents and certain uh activities throughout the year in order to be considered. [1:41:54, 1:41:58]: to get a a sign saying you've adopted s such and such role. [1:41:58, 1:42:05]: First of all, you'd have to sign an adopt a role program agreement. It specifies what's required of the program. [1:42:05, 1:42:12]: Then there's a volunteer waiver liability and release that while you're out there cleaning, you do not hold a city home. [1:42:12, 1:42:16]: You do not hold them responsible for accidents or anything of that nature. [1:42:17, 1:42:19]: Then there's a schedule of cleanups you're required to [1:42:20, 1:42:40]: Perform four cleanups per year. And then there's a post-cleanup form where after every cleanup you submit it to the city of what was cleaned and things of that nature. So we're just trying to formalize a process where there is an actual adopt the road program and it's not a one-time thing where someone said, Hey, I want to adopt like Tide Street. [1:42:39, 1:42:46]: go out there one time every four years and clean it or do something on that street. This specifies how [1:42:46, 1:42:52]: and what requirements have to be met in order to maintain that role being adopted by your organization. [1:42:54, 1:42:59]: Thank you, Mr. Aaron. Any qu uh counsel, any questions for Mr. Aaron about this adopt the road program at all? [1:43:00, 1:43:04]: And if not, I need oh I'm sorry, uh Miss Barber. [1:43:05, 1:43:06]: So [1:43:07, 1:43:13]: Um, Mr. Aaron, is it fair to say that your department would be the one who'd be administering this? [1:43:14, 1:43:17]: Uh yes, Council Mom. [1:43:17, 1:43:18]: Thank you. [1:43:19, 1:43:24]: Any other questions? And if not, you mo need a motion to accept this uh proposal. [1:43:27, 1:43:31]: Any emotion, anybody? Okay, so move this can second. [1:43:33, 1:43:34]: Uh second, Miss Barber. [1:43:35, 1:43:36]: Any further discussion? [1:43:36, 1:43:38]: And if not all in favor, please indicate. [1:43:40, 1:43:42]: Okay, so now you're decision. Thank you very much. All right. [1:43:44, 1:43:49]: Council consideration to approve street acceptance policy. Mr. Aaron, please. [1:43:50, 1:44:10]: Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. Ms. Johnson, the city's engineer and I have had numerous discussions concerning how the city goes about accepting roads into the road system after they have been developed and built in subdivisions. And this outlines the process by which roads are built. [1:44:10, 1:44:27]: how roads are maintained and how roads are accepted into the city. This ensures that we accept roads that are built to a certain standard and those roads are maintained. We have maintenance bonds for the maintenance of those roads during a maintenance period after the roads are accepted into the city. [1:44:28, 1:44:29]: role system. [1:44:30, 1:44:34]: Okay, council. Any questions for Mr. Aaron in reference to this uh [1:44:34, 1:44:35]: Street acceptance policy. [1:44:36, 1:44:38]: Yes. Go ahead, Mr Mayor Protein. [1:44:39, 1:44:49]: So let me I just wanna understand the process. Uh when these um developers get ready to turn over the roads, somebody's actually going to go out there. [1:44:50, 1:44:53]: inspect the road to make sure that it's up to standard. [1:44:54, 1:44:56]: The the great the the [1:44:57, 1:45:03]: The sewer drains not sticking above the grade, the grades not they were supposed to put two coats on there. [1:45:03, 1:45:08]: of asphalt. They never put the second one over there and they escaped the neighborhood. [1:45:09, 1:45:16]: All of those types of things are going to be in the review and who's going to do the review and sign off before [1:45:16, 1:45:20]: uh granting uh the acceptance of the road. Who's gonna do that? [1:45:22, 1:45:25]: Well, Mayor Pro Tem, uh before building [1:45:25, 1:45:35]: decides to build a subdivision or come to the city for approval to build a subdivision. There are standards. The city has minimum design standards and also they'll be addressed in the [1:45:35, 1:45:55]: UDC of standards for constructing roles. And during that time, the developer will submit an application to the city about developing those roles. And then the application lays out the process the developer has to follow in order to construct those roles and the process by which the city inspects [1:45:55, 1:45:56]: Spects those roles. [1:45:57, 1:46:01]: So everything is done up front. The developer will know from the beginning once they decide. [1:46:02, 1:46:10]: To build that development, whether it's a shopping center or whether it's a subdivision, what's required to maintain and build roles according to the city specifications. [1:46:11, 1:46:15]: I I know what the paper says. Who's going out there to check? [1:46:16, 1:46:21]: When you finish when they finish, who is it you? Who's gonna go out there and physically check? [1:46:22, 1:46:35]: to make sure they did what they were supposed to do. Because I know we have a lot of procedures on paper, but in the end, who's going to go out there to verify that this has been done before this city signs off on it? [1:46:36, 1:46:55]: Well, Mayor Protein, we have uh three sets of engineers. There's an engineer in community development. There's also two engineers that the city have that are on call that are also capable of inspecting roads for the city doing a final inspection or pre-inspection or construction inspection before these roads are accepted into the city's road system. [1:46:56, 1:47:06]: So again, I want to be very clear. I know we have these people that can do it. Be very clear. Who's going to do it? Who's going to go make the final sign off? [1:47:07, 1:47:15]: If I may, may April Tim and um Mr. Aaron. So um since since I've been here and working with uh Public Works Director, Mr. Aaron. [1:47:16, 1:47:19]: We make sure that our inspectors, our building inspector. [1:47:20, 1:47:21]: From community development. [1:47:21, 1:47:41]: And one of our civil engineers from public works both go out and conduct inspections at each stage. They go in at the beginning, they go in throughout the process during construction. And because there's so much going on on the property and those roads are getting the maximum use. [1:47:41, 1:48:01]: Before they're actually topped off, both the inspectors go out and ensure that before we sign up on any bonds, that those roads meet ADA requirements, they meet all the minimum standards per our code and the state. So those things are handled through both departments. We jointly go. [1:48:01, 1:48:04]: go out and have those inspections completed. [1:48:04, 1:48:14]: before we have any conversations about releasing any bond funds for for these for these roads that are dedicated to the city. [1:48:15, 1:48:17]: Okay. Thank you. That's that's what I wanted to do. [1:48:18, 1:48:18]: Absolutely. [1:48:19, 1:48:20]: Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [1:48:29, 1:48:30]: Mr. Blount, you're still muted. [1:48:37, 1:48:44]: I'm sorry my cursor wasn't working. All right, go ahead. Ms. Brecker, uh Ms. Johnson, the um [1:48:45, 1:48:46]: When we talk about UDC [1:48:47, 1:49:02]: When we talk about these roads and sidewalks and all that, how does it impact fees with these uh subdivisions? How would they come in compliance with what we're talking about for us uh them being uh responsible for certain things when it comes to these uh sidewalks and roads and [1:49:03, 1:49:07]: What not well they're required to put up a performance bond. [1:49:08, 1:49:28]: um before they even start the project to ensure that before they start any work, if any um utility um lines get burst or there are any other issues that come as a result of their developing in that area, that they that either they will take care of it or we will utilize that bond. [1:49:27, 1:49:29]: Money to take care of it. [1:49:30, 1:49:33]: So that that's why we have it at the very beginning of the process. [1:49:34, 1:49:50]: Okay, one quick follow-up. Um and and I I agree with making sure those are inspected because we we have subdivisions now that was prior to us even coming on council that have uh sidewalks and some of them don't even extend all the way. You know, it's a lot of uh [1:49:50, 1:49:54]: imperfections, if you will, in in in communities. Um [1:49:54, 1:50:14]: What what liability would the builder have until uh uh how long is that liability for their roads and the sidewalks once they've been built? Because as you know, that there's certain type of cement you need to use, certain density of cement, certain things need to be done. So, what liability would they have after the completion of the [1:50:14, 1:50:17]: many projects before pause. [1:50:18, 1:50:18]: Mm. [1:50:19, 1:50:39]: So um I know that Mr. Aaron can probably handle that, answer that question a little better than I can, but minimum a three year performance fine is required. And if they do not make good on the requirements, this minimum standards, then we will utilize those funds and they will be paying the city for those. [1:50:39, 1:50:44]: those dollars, usually it's insured. They get the performance bond through the insurance company so that they could cover. [1:50:44, 1:50:50]: any expenses um to that degree. And Mr. Aaron, I don't know if you want to add to that. [1:50:51, 1:50:59]: Yeah, the the standard maintenance period is 36 months, but we also in certain instances you can extend it for an additional 12 months. [1:51:00, 1:51:03]: To make sure those roles and sidewalks are maintained. [1:51:06, 1:51:07]: Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. [1:51:07, 1:51:08]: Thank you. [1:51:09, 1:51:14]: I'm gonna ask the question. I think I know the answer, but I'm gonna ask this question playing devil advocate. [1:51:15, 1:51:16]: Um [1:51:17, 1:51:24]: What what are the pros and cons of the city accepting uh these streets and these subdivisions? [1:51:24, 1:51:27]: And and and why should we? And [1:51:27, 1:51:28]: Um [1:51:29, 1:51:34]: Are we responsible for any uh street lights uh within the uh on these streets? [1:51:36, 1:51:38]: The pros and cons. [1:51:38, 1:51:55]: The the pros, well, the pros is the city accepting you make sure that they're uh developed and designed to a certain standard. And so that they're not coming into the city's road system and you have to instant uh start putting money up for repairs right off the bat. [1:51:55, 1:51:56]: And also [1:51:56, 1:52:06]: If these roads are not public streets indeed over, then they're they're probably private streets and then you might not have access to those streets. [1:52:09, 1:52:13]: So to develop within the city, you wouldn't want to have access to those streets. [1:52:16, 1:52:20]: I yield back, Mayor. Thank you. Okay, thank you. Any further questions from the council? [1:52:21, 1:52:21]: Okay. [1:52:23, 1:52:23]: Why, sir. [1:52:25, 1:52:26]: Are you back to me, Mayor? [1:52:26, 1:52:32]: Well yeah, I I I thought you were just gonna say I I I I didn't get an answer about sh uh street lighting. [1:52:33, 1:52:36]: Okay, that's right. Oh, that's something separate. [1:52:36, 1:52:39]: [6760.6, 6770.1]: This is just to formalize and make sure that there's a process for developing roles and accepting roles into the city's role system. [1:52:51, 1:52:57]: Because there have been subdivisions built that the city has taken ownership of those roads and they might be they were substandard. [1:52:58, 1:52:59]: Yeah. Um [1:53:00, 1:53:12]: There are some private streets within some subdivisions in the city, such as Eagles Landing, I I would guess. Are there any other subdivisions where the streets are private? [1:53:13, 1:53:14]: That you know of. [1:53:14, 1:53:19]: That's the only gated and uh subdivision where I know the streets are private. [1:53:19, 1:53:23]: Okay. And there's a a trailer part within the city. [1:53:23, 1:53:25]: that those ropes are private. [1:53:25, 1:53:27]: Okay, I yield back, Mayor. [1:53:27, 1:53:28]: Okay. [1:53:28, 1:53:34]: On that note, if no further questions, then in the motion to accept this uh this actual street acceptance policy. [1:53:36, 1:53:38]: D is there a motion? [1:53:39, 1:53:39]: I moved. [1:53:40, 1:53:41]: Okay, Miss Gann, is there a second? [1:53:43, 1:53:48]: Uh uh Mr. Blount, second, any further discussion? And if not, all in favor, please indicate. [1:53:50, 1:54:10]: Okay, got a unanimous decision. Thank you very much, Council. Mr. Aaron, thank you, sir. Council consideration to approve task order number 24 with TSW Incorporated uh multiphase uh design renovations to the mural manners conference center in the amount of uh 239,000 to uh 239,230 dollars. The funds funding. [1:54:10, 1:54:12]: source would be fund balance. So Mr. Aaron, please. [1:54:13, 1:54:20]: Yes, Ms. Mayor and Council. I will refer this to Mr. Ingram. Uh Ms. McGee was working on this. [1:54:20, 1:54:24]: previously, but I'll let Mr. Ingrid speaks to this item. [1:54:25, 1:54:26]: Okay, go right here, Mr. [1:54:27, 1:54:39]: Uh thank you uh mayor and council for allowing us to talk to you about the Merrill Mandor Conference Center. Uh as you know, the Merrill Manders has been down for 21 months now. [1:54:40, 1:54:50]: Uh and it before that it was a very active conference center with weddings and events there regularly. [1:54:50, 1:55:00]: It was built in 2002 and now uh it's not in disrepair, but it has a need for modernization. [1:55:01, 1:55:07]: uh because of the other event centers event centers in the area to be competitive. [1:55:07, 1:55:08]: Um [1:55:09, 1:55:23]: And so we looked at talked to TSW about a phase in way to modernize the uh Mormander Conference Center. That's with the the carpets uh or floors. [1:55:23, 1:55:29]: the paint soundproofing sound system and light fixtures. [1:55:32, 1:55:38]: Okay. Uh any any further description right now? Any of anything else you need to add, Mr. Ingram? [1:55:39, 1:55:40]: Well um [1:55:40, 1:55:42]: We have been looking to. [1:55:44, 1:56:04]: during this covet period to get these things done. And now it's uh we're making the effort to execute uh in a timely manner to get the moral manner back on track and up and uh running. Um you know to one is it generates [1:56:04, 1:56:05]: [6965.4, 6973.5]: uh and uh it's a you know good community uh a vibr vibrant community center in stockbridge. [1:56:14, 1:56:33]: And the size of it being 6,000 square foot ballroom plus the additional 5,000 square feet of of other event space, it is one of the largest in the in the Stockbridge area. And uh we feel if we have the opportunity to get uh it [1:56:34, 1:56:41]: up to modern standards or modernize it, uh it can be a competitive event center uh in this area. [1:56:42, 1:56:47]: All right, thank you. Thank you. Appreciate that. Council, any questions or concerns for Mr. Ingram here about the Mormon's Conference Center? [1:56:50, 1:56:50]: Anybody? [1:56:52, 1:56:54]: All right. Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please, sir. [1:56:54, 1:57:01]: So uh uh Mr. Ingram, uh I'm I'm just looking at the numbers here. Um [1:57:02, 1:57:08]: Two hundred and thirty-nine thousand two hundred and thirty. Um [1:57:09, 1:57:14]: And I I see how you have it here itemized. So what is the um [1:57:14, 1:57:21]: Is this the projected cost of renovation, uh, demolition? [1:57:21, 1:57:26]: Uh is that is that um an addition or breakdown? [1:57:27, 1:57:33]: No sir. It there would be no demolition. It would just be upgrades from the existing [1:57:33, 1:57:44]: uh structure that we have. You know, it would be uh uh uh the new flooring, uh the walls need soundproofing, uh the [1:57:45, 1:57:49]: paint the the the the color scheme uh would [1:57:49, 1:57:51]: would be more aesthetically [1:57:51, 1:57:52]: You know [1:57:52, 1:58:12]: better if it was modernized. When it was built in 2002, the mood was for a it's almost you know a cabin look. Right now with the with uh zoom and people wanting to do selfies, uh the lighting and [1:58:12, 1:58:32]: And uh is it's a different feel for uh what people want. And we want to be uh up to date in a modern, in a modern uh facility. So uh the lighting fixtures is more needs more light. Uh those chandeliers uh don't give off light. [1:58:32, 1:58:46]: It's and so if you were filming in there, uh, and most people do with selfies and so forth, it's uh you can't get the light you would need for that. And that's what people want when they rent new modern facilities. [1:58:49, 1:58:50]: Thank you. [1:58:51, 1:58:53]: Yeah, questions council. [1:58:54, 1:58:55]: Anybody else? [1:58:56, 1:59:01]: And if not, I need a motion to accept uh his proposal about the remodeling of uh Mormano's conference center. [1:59:03, 1:59:03]: Is there a motion? [1:59:05, 1:59:06]: In our budget, I'm sorry. [1:59:07, 1:59:08]: Is it is in our budget, correct? [1:59:09, 1:59:11]: I would I would think it is, Mr. Ingram? [1:59:12, 1:59:13]: It had to come out of fund balance. [1:59:14, 1:59:19]: It would it would come from fund balance, I believe, Mr. Wiggins. Am I correct? [1:59:20, 1:59:25]: Yeah, you're correct. There you go. This it this this was not this was not budgeted. [1:59:27, 1:59:29]: Okay. So if you're trying to start [1:59:30, 1:59:33]: For innovation now, you would need to use fund balance. [1:59:34, 1:59:40]: And and as I said, we've been down for twenty one months. Uh and I would hope that [1:59:40, 1:59:56]: you know, we could get the moral mandar back up to speed as people are beginning to go out again. And uh we get several requests every week uh to know when we'll be opening up and we can [1:59:56, 1:59:58]: even give uh [1:59:58, 2:00:01]: patrons when citizens uh [2:00:01, 2:00:02]: You know [2:00:03, 2:00:05]: a timeline on when we would even [2:00:06, 2:00:07]: Be starting. [2:00:07, 2:00:20]: And and that's one of the things that we want to do is get that process started so that we can, you know, estimate a a a finish line, a finish time uh line of when we could be back. [2:00:20, 2:00:21]: And online. [2:00:22, 2:00:31]: Sem muchas Ms. Cans. Any other further questions? This this is for to get estimates, correct? This isn't necessarily the actual. [2:00:32, 2:00:36]: No, it has not gone out to be it for the actual construction. [2:00:37, 2:00:37]: Uh [2:00:38, 2:00:39]: You know, of it. [2:00:39, 2:00:45]: Okay. So listen, I would be okay if we were going to just get some numbers. [2:00:45, 2:00:49]: And we put this in the budget for twenty twenty two. [2:00:49, 2:00:51]: I am a stickler. [2:00:51, 2:00:54]: In regards to making sure that we have the money. [2:00:54, 2:00:57]: If there has if there's money in the budget. [2:00:57, 2:01:00]: For this, so be it. Twenty twenty one. [2:01:01, 2:01:08]: But if we're going just to get some estimates, which we're right at the tail end, I mean, we're at the last quarter, right? October. So you like November, December. [2:01:09, 2:01:15]: January's right here. I'm okay with us having it as a part of our budget for 2022. [2:01:16, 2:01:17]: Um [2:01:17, 2:01:20]: So long as we're voting to move forward with getting an estimate. [2:01:21, 2:01:22]: Is that what we're doing? [2:01:24, 2:01:24]: Uh. [2:01:25, 2:01:28]: Councilwoman Barber, this is a a task order from [2:01:28, 2:01:37]: TSW is similar to like one for the Cultural Arts Center or for the renovation of the Ted Strickland offices. This is to prepare. [2:01:37, 2:01:46]: Concepts and designs for the renovation of the Merrill Manders, there's like three different phases. One phase you would just renovate the ballroom. [2:01:46, 2:02:06]: Then you come back at a later date and renovate the meeting spaces downstairs. It's broken according to the different uses of the building. So this was a task order to update and refresh the Murray Mandas because in 19 years there hasn't been any significant investment in the refurbished. [2:02:06, 2:02:07]: [7328.6, 7330.6]: So I'm in favor of that. [2:02:11, 2:02:12]: I just wanna know. [2:02:12, 2:02:15]: Where are we how much money are we talking? [2:02:17, 2:02:24]: For this ministry out of fund balance right now. I I want to know about what we have in our budget for Mormandar. [2:02:24, 2:02:29]: And then how much money are we talking about taking money out right now in twenty twenty one? [2:02:31, 2:02:51]: No, this wouldn't all be spent in 2021. You probably have minimal cost because we're in uh we're in might as well say November. So by the time they start, it'll probably be around in December or something like that. So the expenses for this year would be minimal and you can budget it or use fund balance. [2:02:51, 2:02:51]: [7372.0, 7375.4]: to uh pay for the remainder of the task order costs. [2:02:56, 2:02:59]: Mr. Wiggins, do we have any money in the budget in Merrymanders? [2:03:01, 2:03:03]: We have uh let me take. [2:03:04, 2:03:07]: I'm trying to bring it up now to see what we currently have. [2:03:08, 2:03:10]: We don't have enough for two hundred and thirty nine. [2:03:10, 2:03:11]: What is it? [2:03:11, 2:03:13]: Two hundred thirty nine thousand right now. [2:03:14, 2:03:17]: H will it cost two hundred and thirty nine thousand right now? [2:03:18, 2:03:22]: No, they're not gonna bill us two hundred and thirty nine thousand dollars before the end of the year. [2:03:22, 2:03:25]: Yeah, like Miss like like Dish was saying, they [2:03:25, 2:03:28]: They're gonna build us in in in phases. [2:03:28, 2:03:30]: You got three phases to uh [2:03:30, 2:03:32]: Complete all of the work. [2:03:32, 2:03:35]: I'm pretty sure they'll start with the lowest, but um [2:03:36, 2:03:52]: I just want to know the cost. So every single meeting, I asked the same thing. What are the costs? Is it do we have it in our budget? What is the balance? I asked this every single meeting. [2:03:52, 2:03:55]: So these are the things I want to know. [2:03:55, 2:04:01]: And Mr. Ingram, I appreciate you. I appreciate your presentation. I love it. I'm I'm for it. [2:04:02, 2:04:07]: I just want to make sure that we have the money in the budget because I've been a stickler on that. [2:04:07, 2:04:23]: Um and so long as we budget for it for 2022, I'm okay if the cost will fit within what we have right now. What's the what what's in the budget right now, Mr. Wiggins? Right now you you have fifty thousand dollars. [2:04:24, 2:04:26]: For site improvement. [2:04:27, 2:04:27]: Okay. [2:04:28, 2:04:31]: To start to b to basically start this project. [2:04:32, 2:04:36]: Okay. And that's from now through December. And I think that's doable, right? [2:04:37, 2:04:39]: Is that doable, Mr Dashus? [2:04:39, 2:04:53]: Yes, ma'am, because if you just did phase one, which is the ballroom and entrance refresh, even if they did everything this year it'll be$27,650. Okay. I'm in favor then. I'm fine. I just want to make sure we have the money. [2:04:53, 2:05:00]: already set aside and when we get ready to do our finalize this this budget in 22 that we include those costs. [2:05:01, 2:05:01]: Okay. [2:05:03, 2:05:07]: It uh what standby? Uh Councilman Thomas, you were unmuted, sir. Uh I'm sorry. [2:05:08, 2:05:11]: No questions. No questions. Okay, no problem. Map Pro 10 point, please. [2:05:12, 2:05:18]: Okay, this is my issue with this entire process. To spend two hundred and thirty [2:05:18, 2:05:20]: thousand dollars. [2:05:20, 2:05:28]: We already know we've been through this enough time. There's gonna be change orders. By the time this already finishes, we'll be close to three hundred thousand dollars. [2:05:29, 2:05:39]: on a facility that's going to be replaced in the next 18 months. We'll have a new cultural arts center with a state-of-the-art ballroom inside it. [2:05:40, 2:05:48]: It makes no sense to remodel this facility when you have a brand new state of the art modern ballroom inside the Cultural Arts Center. [2:05:49, 2:05:52]: Why would we spend this money now? I suggest that we repair Merylmanders. [2:05:54, 2:06:00]: with the roof leak and the such things and as that and keep it in operational condition. [2:06:00, 2:06:07]: So that it can function for the next 18 to 24 months until we get the new. [2:06:07, 2:06:08]: State of the art. [2:06:09, 2:06:22]: Cultural Art Center that we have the financing in place for with a ballroom that not anybody in the region will be able to touch on this side of town. We've already got that plan in place right now and what are to do it with. [2:06:23, 2:06:23]: So [2:06:24, 2:06:27]: And I understand Councilwoman Gance. [2:06:27, 2:06:33]: uh argument, which is to take the money and to put it in fund balance, uh to take in and out of fund balance. [2:06:33, 2:06:42]: Which we're doing. That's not smart for us to take this money out of fund balance. And the overall overarching concern is. [2:06:42, 2:06:46]: Мерл Мандерс збенлюсь маніфорій в єрс. [2:06:47, 2:06:50]: Every year we have to subsidize that budget. [2:06:51, 2:06:54]: Over and over and over again with [2:06:54, 2:06:58]: thousands, hundreds of thousands of dollars over the last few years. [2:06:59, 2:07:05]: Why on earth would we do that now when that facility is about to be replaced? [2:07:05, 2:07:07]: With a state of the art facility. [2:07:07, 2:07:11]: that it will be competing with in the same area. [2:07:11, 2:07:14]: I think we need to pump the brakes on this right here. [2:07:14, 2:07:18]: And at some point, look at what we can do to repurpose. [2:07:19, 2:07:22]: Uh Merrill Manders, once we have our new state of the art. [2:07:22, 2:07:23]: Um [2:07:24, 2:07:27]: ballroom open because that's what we're talking about. [2:07:27, 2:07:30]: is doing the ballroom and the entrance and all of that. [2:07:31, 2:07:44]: uh we should pump the brakes on this. And at some point we have other uses that may be able to come to the table. As the city is expanding, we need more office space. We need other uh in uh [2:07:44, 2:07:51]: other types of uses and we will have a building available to do that with rather than investing [2:07:52, 2:07:57]: Pro I'm in my guess three hundred thousand dollars or more after all of the changes are put in place. [2:07:57, 2:08:01]: And then there will be other changes that will be needed to upgrade. [2:08:01, 2:08:03]: uh the facility as well. [2:08:04, 2:08:12]: So my idea, my my thoughts on this would be to table this so that we can come up with another plan to fix Merrill Manders. [2:08:13, 2:08:33]: Right. All the repairs that need to be done should be done. Just those repairs would need to be done in terms of the roof, in terms of the things that need to be done to keep it functional so that we can have city events in it and we can have it available to the public when need when that would need to be done. But to spend$300,000. [2:08:33, 2:08:34]: I was on a facility. [2:08:34, 2:08:40]: that will be obsolete in two years wouldn't it does not really make sense to me. [2:08:41, 2:08:42]: Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. Oh. [2:08:44, 2:08:45]: Thank you, Mayor. [2:08:46, 2:08:47]: Um [2:08:47, 2:08:49]: Mr. Um [2:08:49, 2:08:59]: Canyon Well, is he still on here? Yes, I am. I'm just trying to figure out has it been baited out where we can get a more accurate number? [2:09:00, 2:09:07]: Because I'm looking at the 239, what is what is this representing versus when we bid it out to get actual numbers? [2:09:07, 2:09:10]: It has not been to that process yet. [2:09:10, 2:09:20]: Where are we getting the 239 from when we when we at this point we don't have an overall cost to bid it out to find out what the overall cost would be? [2:09:21, 2:09:24]: Because if we if we say yes to two thirty nine. [2:09:24, 2:09:37]: uh agree that these numbers can be inflated through through through the bidding process and then we we already subjected ourselves to two thirty nine what what is it becomes back another two hundred and thirty nine or two hundred and fifty thousand or whatever. We we have no I mean [2:09:39, 2:09:42]: For me, it just seemed a little premature. [2:09:43, 2:09:50]: to to to go at it now without a betting cost to have overall cost for for this project overall. [2:09:50, 2:09:58]: When we're just saying, hey, we'll start it up and then hey, uh at some point in time we'll we'll get numbers to finish. I don't I don't understand that. Well, uh [2:09:58, 2:10:01]: I I understand your question, but [2:10:02, 2:10:03]: Uh is it that [2:10:04, 2:10:16]: We're going to put the moral mandor back online. It has been offline for twenty one months. Are we saying we're gonna just hold on that? I I'm looking for your direction to let me know. [2:10:17, 2:10:29]: which way to move if we're gonna put it back online and it be a facility for the community's use so we're gonna leave it where it is and wait for the eighteen months. Um because you know we just wanna [2:10:29, 2:10:41]: We're we're we're we're we're we want to do what's best for the uh mayor and council and serve the citizens. Uh so uh uh [2:10:41, 2:10:46]: You know, and we're presenting it to to find out what is the best [2:10:46, 2:10:52]: way to move forward or do do we have any other suggestions to [2:10:53, 2:10:56]: to go after uh the community's business. [2:10:57, 2:10:59]: Yeah, but but what I'm saying is for for me. [2:11:00, 2:11:00]: Is [2:11:01, 2:11:12]: Right now, how because first of all, one council member doesn't d doesn't make a decision. There has to be a consensus of the council. So that's one that's one part of it. [2:11:12, 2:11:15]: But the part at hand right now is [2:11:15, 2:11:17]: That for me, we don't have. [2:11:19, 2:11:27]: uh anything to show us what the overall cost for what type renovations that that you're gonna do. I don't know if that includes making sure the roof is right. I don't know. [2:11:27, 2:11:30]: What if it comes out to five hundred thousand dollars? [2:11:30, 2:11:31]: Rather we're talking about [2:11:32, 2:11:36]: bringing the mural manners back online or not. I'm just saying right now for this. [2:11:36, 2:11:37]: Item [2:11:38, 2:11:44]: How can we vote on something when we have no idea through a bidding process what the overall cost would be? [2:11:45, 2:11:55]: for the renovations needed for that facility. And that and that's it that's why I'm saying right now this process is a little premature versus what what the actual numbers would be because I don't want to [2:11:55, 2:12:03]: Us end up paying over two hundred thousand dollars just for everybody to seek out and and and discover what we need to do. And next thing you know, we're coming back to get a [2:12:03, 2:12:07]: get an amount and now everybody's been loaded their pockets with money and we still gotta [2:12:07, 2:12:11]: pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to get the barrel man up the par until we get [2:12:12, 2:12:14]: actual numbers, I just think that we should for me. [2:12:15, 2:12:17]: We should get actual numbers of what the cost is gonna be. [2:12:18, 2:12:22]: Through our bidding process to find out what it was gonna cost this council to [2:12:22, 2:12:25]: truly renovate the Merrill manage for what you think it is needed. [2:12:26, 2:12:26]: Yes, sir. [2:12:27, 2:12:28]: We can do that. [2:12:29, 2:12:30]: The purpose of this was [2:12:31, 2:12:44]: The the Merrill Manders, uh, Ms. McGee and Mr. Ingram had been working on this to get to renovate this facility, to bring it up to par with the surrounding and competing facilities that they're competing against for. [2:12:44, 2:12:47]: businesses, conferences and other things of that sort. [2:12:47, 2:13:07]: And if you've been in the murder, there are some things like downstairs. A lot of businesses rent those spaces to use for their clients and then do training and things of that nature. So we're trying to this would uh provide a set of standards to renovate this building. This would design the bed and all the amenities. [2:13:07, 2:13:27]: That staff wanted to see in this facility as an updated facility so that they could be competitive. And then you bid it out. If the price came in at$500,000 to renovated, then a decision be made: does the city want to move forward with spending that money to renovate it? But this was to get us to that process where they go in and meet with Mr. [2:13:27, 2:13:47]: Ingram and his staff and everybody, the city council, and saying, what do you want to see in a refurbished Merrill Manders? What do you think it would take to make it competitive? Because the Merrill Manders got some uses that would be different than the Cultural Arts Center because you don't have the meeting and office spaces in there for businesses to rent like they do in a lower level of the Merrill Manders. [2:13:47, 2:13:57]: And also there might be some party or wedding that somebody wanna hold in the Merrill Manders. And so you wanted to have that facility ready and available if somebody wanted to rent it. [2:13:59, 2:14:01]: Uh, Miss Gang, go ahead, please. [2:14:01, 2:14:06]: Thank you, Mayor. Um, and thank you, Mr. Dashes uh Aaron for that. I agree. [2:14:07, 2:14:07]: Um [2:14:09, 2:14:20]: The statement made as if we just because we get an art center does not mean we don't want the Merrill Manders. I think that we should always update all of our buildings, especially. [2:14:20, 2:14:40]: those buildings that are really capital projects that are were for the community. So I'm not again I'm not against this. I just wanted to make sure it was in the budget. And Mr. Wigan said there's fifty thousand dollars in the budget. Mr. Desha said that there's 20 the cost right now would be the first phase is about [2:14:40, 2:14:54]: About 20 something thousand. This is for a design through TSW. This is exactly what this is. This does not include renovations. It's the same thing that we would be doing for the art center. Now, in regards to the art center. [2:14:55, 2:15:03]: My c the the my idea, and you know, each council member has their own opinion about what we should do. [2:15:04, 2:15:05]: We have already [2:15:07, 2:15:10]: We have already given up the Ted Strickland for office space. [2:15:11, 2:15:15]: And it's already full is from my understanding. [2:15:15, 2:15:35]: My concern is exactly that. There are numerous amounts of people. I can't tell you how many times I get calls a day asking about when is the Ted Strickland going to open back up so they can have a baby shower, they can have a wedding shower, they can have a community event or a church wants to have some kind of dinner. And they can't. [2:15:35, 2:15:37]: Because we're renovating that. [2:15:38, 2:15:39]: For office space. [2:15:40, 2:16:00]: The ballroom. I can't imagine what the cost of a nice state-of-the-art ballroom will be for larger, for beautiful events. But we still have people who utilize the rooms downstairs as classrooms, as meeting rooms in the mormanders, as well as that event facility. [2:16:00, 2:16:06]: Yes, it's important to keep what we have and make it up to date. That is extremely important to me. [2:16:07, 2:16:11]: I'm not against it at all. In fact, I think we need it. [2:16:11, 2:16:16]: Regardless of what we decide to do with it, it needs to be updated. [2:16:16, 2:16:36]: I just want to make sure, as I've always made sure that we are financially responsible, that we have the money in our budget for this. And if the project is going to start with the 20 with out of the 50,000 that's already in the budget at Burmer Manders, and we can pay the 29 or whatever that number is for right now. [2:16:36, 2:16:45]: Now and they're getting a design together, which will then help us determine what call the cost will be. Then I'm okay with that. [2:16:46, 2:16:54]: But I'm not going to say, oh, we're going to get a new state of art building. We're going to repurpose this Merrmanders. The art center is not going to make money. [2:16:55, 2:16:55]: Don't [2:16:56, 2:17:16]: The Art Center, as the financial advisor, as our city manager, have all stated, and as history shows in other municipalities, is not a money-making facility either. These are things that our our taxpayers spent their money on splot, our splot dollars going to work. [2:17:15, 2:17:27]: for community projects. Neither will the community center for the citizens, the seniors, the for the families. I hate when we say senior and youth center. It's a community center. [2:17:27, 2:17:34]: is for all ages. Neither will that make money, but it de it there is a purpose for it. [2:17:35, 2:17:50]: And so us making sure that all of our buildings, whether they don't have the leaks, whether they look nice, we always talk about beautification and presentation. Those things are important. So I'm okay right now. [2:17:50, 2:17:53]: With spending the money that we have in the budget. [2:17:54, 2:17:56]: But not going beyond that. [2:17:57, 2:17:59]: Until next year. [2:17:59, 2:18:10]: if we're gonna approve the budget for next year and and for the design or for the updates. And then we can decide whether or not we're gonna move forward. But we gotta have some kind of level expertise. [2:18:11, 2:18:13]: Somebody's gotta do the pricing. [2:18:13, 2:18:16]: And this is the way that we go about doing it. [2:18:16, 2:18:19]: It's how we operate business. [2:18:20, 2:18:21]: This is common. [2:18:22, 2:18:23]: This is nothing new. [2:18:26, 2:18:26]: That's it. [2:18:26, 2:18:28]: Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please, sir. [2:18:29, 2:18:32]: I I would agree also with all of the comments. [2:18:32, 2:18:34]: Most of the comments. [2:18:34, 2:18:38]: Um it it it it appears that we do need to table [2:18:38, 2:18:41]: Uh, we need to get a better understanding. [2:18:41, 2:18:45]: Because I know there's always a design cost. [2:18:45, 2:18:47]: There's always a renovation cost. [2:18:48, 2:18:51]: And and none of those that we know right now, but I would agree that. [2:18:52, 2:18:54]: We do need to improve the mural. [2:18:55, 2:18:59]: Um it's still a viable uh building. Um [2:18:59, 2:19:15]: in in our uh uh city campus. So I think we need to do that, but I think we need to take a step back and do a little bit more uh uh due diligence and how we go forward with that. So I'm in favor of tabling. But just let me say again [2:19:15, 2:19:18]: Um, when we talk about um [2:19:19, 2:19:21]: Um generating revenue. [2:19:22, 2:19:31]: Uh it's not always about uh the dollars that come in. And and again, you know, we're about providing services now with the [2:19:31, 2:19:43]: Culture Art Center, uh, without a doubt, uh, it's going to provide a certain level of services. When you talk about, and that is a theater, that is a um [2:19:44, 2:20:04]: a ballroom, there's also a museum, there's classroom. So those are services that we will be able to offer our citizens, services that we'll be able to offer um high school kids. So that is a benefit to everything that we do, even in the with the mural. [2:20:04, 2:20:08]: That is a benefit to all of this. And I think we have to sort of. [2:20:09, 2:20:19]: uh understand, you know, uh again, service delivery, but it's not always about uh dollars and cents. But I think that when you create [2:20:19, 2:20:39]: Uh, these entities that are going to bring people in your downtown because our overall thrust is uh downtown revitalization. In order to do that, you have to have these things that's going to attract people into coming downtown, which is going to spur other. [2:20:39, 2:20:59]: uh businesses that want to come into your downtown. So you don't you may not realize the benefit initially, but once you put the puzzle together and you have a whole puzzle and then your city benefit totally. [2:20:59, 2:21:19]: So but I I just I'm in agreement with with with tabling this and uh and Mr. Ingram, I think um you know we have to start to do some calculation and I don't know uh mayor, I don't know who's gonna be the one to uh go back to the drawing board, Mr. Aaron, and and just look at this a little closer because I know we have design. [2:21:19, 2:21:21]: Then we have renovation. [2:21:22, 2:21:28]: And we are in the budget process. So I just think we just need to regroup, but I think all of us agree. [2:21:29, 2:21:35]: That we do need the mural to be a viable and a functioning building in our city. [2:21:36, 2:21:37]: But how? [2:21:38, 2:21:58]: How do we go forward with the bill? And I think that's the main question. Um, and I think we all agree that we will go forward, but it's just a how. So I I would just recommend tabling it. Uh, but even during that time, if we're going to bring it back next month or the month after that, something needs to happen in between. So when it does come back, we have a better. [2:21:58, 2:22:00]: better understanding and maybe we can go forward. [2:22:02, 2:22:12]: Sure, appreciate it, sir. Appreciate it. So otherwise Mr. Ingram and Mr. Aaron to uh work together on this project and keep me involved in that through the budget process as that we have to go through here very shortly. [2:22:13, 2:22:15]: Mayor Protam, you're unmuted. You have another comment, sir. [2:22:16, 2:22:20]: Yeah, let me say this. Fix Meromanders. Fix it. [2:22:21, 2:22:21]: Fix it. [2:22:22, 2:22:25]: That was the first thing that I said. Fix it. [2:22:25, 2:22:28]: I didn't suggest leaving it in the condition that it is now. [2:22:29, 2:22:33]: repair it so that is a viable facility for the city. [2:22:34, 2:22:37]: I would maintain the meeting space downtown. [2:22:37, 2:22:57]: But I would not pay TSW to redesign the ballroom when we have a best in class ballroom that will be up and running in the next 24 months. I would maintain the status quo. So when did we condemn Merle Mayor, may Merle Manders? Mayor, I believe you just had a meeting. [2:22:57, 2:23:05]: In there uh with the Georgia Municipal Association or District 3 just a little bit ago, right? It's still functional, isn't it? [2:23:05, 2:23:25]: Right, it still falls. It's not condemned, sir. We didn't condemn it. Exactly. We're speaking like Merle Manders is about to fall down. It's condemned. It needs to be fixed. We can fix it, maintain the status quo till we get up to where we need to be, because that's not something that uh that that uh we have funds. He just said we have fifty thousand dollars. [2:23:25, 2:23:45]: Dollars fix it, fix it with the fifty thousand dollars, right? So we can continue using the meeting space downtown. But for God's sake, why would we pay somebody to design a new ballroom? Why would we do that? When I say repurpose, there should be something that we use it for. Merle Manders to be viable. [2:23:45, 2:24:05]: For here to here forward, but for what purpose? We don't know that yet, but I know we don't need a ballroom because we got one coming. So continue to use the meeting space downstairs, maintain it, fix Merle Manders with the fifty thousand dollars that we already got, and then let's table this into [2:24:05, 2:24:11]: we decide what the actual use long term is going to be for Merl Mandarin. [2:24:12, 2:24:13]: Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [2:24:15, 2:24:16]: Um [2:24:17, 2:24:25]: Dacious, um, could we get a itemized uh with our public facilities maintenance person? [2:24:26, 2:24:30]: And public works and itemized a list of what repairs are needed. [2:24:31, 2:24:38]: For the mural manners and get a cost to that. Uh and Ms. Canyon, Mr. Ingram, uh, if you could give us a suggestion. [2:24:38, 2:24:55]: and cost of what you are suggesting for the Merrill Manders in in our efforts to not rebuild the Merrill Manders but to do repairs and also to do upgrades in those repairs instead of uh uh because I I I I'm just saying right now. [2:24:56, 2:25:00]: for everything that we're dealing with and and we're talking and with this figure that's now. [2:25:01, 2:25:04]: And what's already in the in the uh balance for the budget. [2:25:05, 2:25:19]: Let let's kind of start with what needs to be repaired in the mural manners. What needs to be repaired and what suggestion, Mr. Ingalls, that you will have for this council that would be uh an upgrade for it instead of this uh uh instead of a massive renovation at this time. [2:25:20, 2:25:24]: The the immediate needs are floor, paint. [2:25:25, 2:25:26]: Sound proofing. [2:25:27, 2:25:43]: No uh th though th those three things may even can come under the uh present budget that we have. We're not positive, but but it those three things uh would would would put the moral back. [2:25:44, 2:25:51]: online to uh to to serve the public. We're anxious to be back online. We wanna be back online. [2:25:51, 2:25:59]: Uh but we have to, you know, get those at least those those primary things. It definitely needs some paint and it definitely needs flowing. [2:25:59, 2:26:16]: Thank you, Ms. Ing. Can we check and see what the cost of that is and if you should say that's part of the budget that you have now? And then whatever we need to do in the future on that, uh, we'll just deal with that. But if that's because what you're saying, I'm uh you know, I'm not a I'm not the person to do that, but [2:26:16, 2:26:32]: If that falls on what you already have, then I think that all you need to do is just uh take that and uh and and and let us know you're facilitating that with the budget you already have. So, you know, I think that would be good. I'll get with Mr. Aaron and uh we we'll we'll move forward with that. [2:26:33, 2:26:36]: Cur curiosity question. Uh Councilwoman Barber, did you have any comment at all? [2:26:41, 2:26:46]: I didn't raise my hand, but I will add to the discussion. Um, I think this item [2:26:47, 2:26:51]: Um it was for council consideration to approve a task order. [2:26:52, 2:26:53]: В ТСВ. [2:26:54, 2:26:56]: For a multi phase design renovation. [2:26:57, 2:27:01]: And that cost is two hundred and thirty-nine thousand two hundred and thirty dollars. [2:27:02, 2:27:04]: That's for TSW. [2:27:04, 2:27:05]: For design. [2:27:06, 2:27:09]: Um, I am in support of tabling this. [2:27:10, 2:27:10]: And [2:27:10, 2:27:13]: Asking staff to go back in. [2:27:13, 2:27:15]: Провідес від лист of [2:27:15, 2:27:17]: Necessary repairs. [2:27:17, 2:27:18]: Um to get it back. [2:27:19, 2:27:19]: Functional. [2:27:20, 2:27:20]: Um [2:27:21, 2:27:22]: That's all. [2:27:23, 2:27:42]: All right, so I need a motion, folks, one way or the other. Sir. Yes, go ahead. I'd like to make a motion to table this item and then we've already had enough discussion on what uh staff is to go back and to look at it and to see where uh what uh needs to be done in terms of repairs. [2:27:43, 2:27:47]: Miss okay, Miss Barber, I've got to use a second then. Okay. All in favor, please indicate. [2:27:49, 2:27:53]: Unanimous decision. All right. Thank you very much. All right, gentlemen, you grab your marching order. [2:27:54, 2:27:56]: Okay, council consideration to a uh staff. [2:27:57, 2:28:05]: Excuse me, council consideration to approve staff to apply for a governor's grant for ARPA funds for water and sewer projects. Mr. Aaron, please. [2:28:05, 2:28:25]: Yes, Ms. Mayor and Council. Governor Kemp has some additional APRA funds that can be used for water and sewer improvements. And it's kind of like the CDBG program that you have a match you have to provide. We can use current offer funds for those mats, for that match. So our engineers recommend. [2:28:25, 2:28:45]: Because I think we've identified projects that we were going to spend about$5 million on it. Is that the city leveraged$2.5 million of its ARPA funds to obtain an additional$2.5 million from the governor's ARPA fund? So we would need a letter of support from the mayor and the city of Stockbridge. We also would need a [2:28:45, 2:28:48]: a letter of support from our state representative. [2:28:49, 2:28:58]: And we're meeting with our engineers tomorrow. We have to have the application submitted by October 31st. They have pretty much all of the documents. We just need the approval from. [2:28:58, 2:29:02]: uh mayor and counsel and that signed letter from the mayor and our state representative. [2:29:03, 2:29:04]: So [2:29:04, 2:29:18]: Stand by one second, please. Mr. Aaron, um upon approval from the council, I I definitely without a doubt, I'll sign a document for you in a letter. But you said a state representative, we have several that touch stoppers. How many do you need? Or do you need a senator? I just need one. [2:29:18, 2:29:23]: One. Okay. We already have the template for the letter. We just need one letter signed. [2:29:23, 2:29:25]: All right. Mayor Pro Tam, go ahead, please. [2:29:26, 2:29:30]: Let me thank you, Mr. Aaron. See this is what I'm talking about. Okay. [2:29:30, 2:29:33]: You need staff that's very proactive. [2:29:33, 2:29:53]: Going out finding those dollars that's on the table as we crunch these numbers, trying to make hard decisions. Thank you, because this is what we need out of our staff members to be able to bring this to the table like this and assist us. You just made our job and the citizens' job easier. [2:29:53, 2:30:00]: You bring in two million dollars that they don't have to come out of their pockets because it's their money. I just want to thank you. [2:30:01, 2:30:03]: Um Catherine Blancley, please. [2:30:05, 2:30:10]: May may I like to make a motion to approve the um grant for the uh governor's grant. [2:30:10, 2:30:18]: All right. You have done so. Is there a second? I have a second. Miss I heard Miss Gantt's voice. She seconds that. Uh is there any further discussion? [2:30:20, 2:30:21]: Uh Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [2:30:21, 2:30:32]: Yes, Mr. Aaron. So for this item, council, consideration to approve staff to apply for governors grant for ARPA funds for water and sewer projects. [2:30:33, 2:30:38]: Does that mean that the city will put up the funding? [2:30:38, 2:30:42]: for these projects and will be refunded. [2:30:42, 2:30:44]: By ARPA. [2:30:45, 2:31:00]: Uh you there's a possibility you can get up to 50%. So if we put two and a half million in, we'll be going for two and a half million dollar grant from this from the governor's ARPA fund. So for a total of five million dollars. [2:31:00, 2:31:06]: Okay. How would the council receive the list of projects that are identified? [2:31:07, 2:31:23]: Those projects have been submitted to finance. There's also, it was a copy of the email from uh Mr. Chad Petting with Carter and Sloop outlining projects that the city had established to use ARPRA funds for that we could use these additional funds to. [2:31:25, 2:31:26]: Okay. Thank you. [2:31:26, 2:31:46]: Uh one last question. Go right, please. Can I get greedy for a minute? Is that the is that the max that they're gonna match? I mean, what is the limit that if we put up such and such and you're gonna get a return for it? I mean, how did we come up with this number? I mean, that you came up with two and a half million. So if we put three, could we get six? Yeah, how does that [2:31:46, 2:31:48]: that work? I want to get greedy. [2:31:48, 2:32:08]: No, sir, there's not really a specified match, but if uh they seem to think that if you commit 50%, then you're that increases your chances of of getting an award. These awards are extremely competitive. Just because we submit an application doesn't mean it'll get funded. But the more you agree to match, [2:32:08, 2:32:18]: then the more likely you are to get some type of funding. So they're recommending 50%. So that's what we're submitting the grant application on. [2:32:18, 2:32:22]: So if we decided to do three million, that could up the number. [2:32:22, 2:32:33]: The ARPA funds are funds, right? I mean, with their funds that were were placed, were given to us by the So we decided to make this number three million. That'll increase the increase the yield. [2:32:33, 2:32:35]: It can easily use. [2:32:35, 2:32:50]: Not necessarily, because like I said, these grants are competitive and you got other cities and governments applying for them as well. So I would think that they're going to try to make these available to as many entities as possible. [2:32:50, 2:32:51]: Okay, thank you. [2:32:52, 2:32:58]: Therefore, I just wanted just to add um to what Mr. Aaron was saying. Um [2:32:58, 2:33:06]: These uh grants um are very competitive. Um the state is looking for those projects that are shovel ready. [2:33:06, 2:33:10]: Um and I believe that list that Mr. Aaron mentioned. [2:33:10, 2:33:11]: those projects. [2:33:11, 2:33:12]: Oh [2:33:12, 2:33:13]: Or could be. [2:33:14, 2:33:15]: Shovel ready. [2:33:15, 2:33:22]: So having that two million dollars on hand to show that we're ready to go, it would be a win-win for us. [2:33:23, 2:33:24]: Uh great. [2:33:24, 2:33:28]: Motion's been made, been seconded. Any further comments? [2:33:28, 2:33:30]: Uh yes, ma'am, William is gent. [2:33:31, 2:33:36]: No comment. I was raised in the boat. Sorry. All in favor, please indicate. [2:33:36, 2:33:42]: Okay, uh unanimous decision. Thank you very much. What we have next, ladies and gentlemen, would be the uh motion. [2:33:42, 2:34:01]: in a sense to extend the moratorium that we had that was going to end at the 30 31st of this month, extended to at least the the 31st of January that coincide with the second hearing and adoption of the UDC and the uh zoning map. So I need a motion excuse me. I need a [2:34:01, 2:34:04]: We need if we have any have the if we have to have any more discussion, we can do that. [2:34:05, 2:34:09]: but that's what I need a motion on if that is the case. If you're willing to I thought we already did that mayor. [2:34:10, 2:34:21]: No, no, we we added it to the agenda. We added to the agenda. We added it to the agenda. We did not uh we did not take a motion or have any discussion on it. Go ahead, Mr. Standby, stand by. Mr. Mr Potem, go ahead. I'm sorry. [2:34:21, 2:34:29]: I I just want again, this is an opportunity to sh what is it? What is it? Do does anybody out there know we assume that we [2:34:29, 2:34:31]: We know what this is. [2:34:31, 2:34:45]: But Howard, could you, Ms. Johnson, could you talk about a little bit of what this is and how this is protecting the city and why it's important to extend the memorandum for the protection of the quality of life in the community? [2:34:47, 2:34:49]: Absolutely. [2:34:50, 2:34:53]: So a moratorium for those who are are watching. [2:34:54, 2:34:57]: Moratorium is a measure that um [2:34:58, 2:34:58]: Um [2:34:58, 2:35:03]: That the each local government city county is given federally. [2:35:04, 2:35:06]: In order to [2:35:07, 2:35:08]: You know, stop and take a moment. [2:35:09, 2:35:15]: review codes because a lot of times we receive requests that don't quite meet our code requirements. [2:35:15, 2:35:22]: And instead of denying something, we want to say, hold on, let's take a look at our current code as it pertains to the request. [2:35:22, 2:35:29]: and let's come up with what that means for us. And we have to do that assessment of quality of life. [2:35:29, 2:35:32]: For our residents, for our businesses as a result. [2:35:33, 2:35:36]: The there have been several moratorium that have been [2:35:37, 2:35:41]: Um approved by the council this year, two of which [2:35:41, 2:35:44]: Um are pertaining to rental. [2:35:44, 2:35:47]: subdivisions for new single family. [2:35:47, 2:35:50]: And also for hookah bars. [2:35:51, 2:35:53]: Cigar bars, cigar lounges, and hoogle lounges. [2:35:54, 2:35:56]: And due to the fact that we [2:35:57, 2:36:02]: Have moved the date for approval for the UDC, the Unified Land Development Code. [2:36:02, 2:36:10]: we have um wanted to we want to extend the moratorium to cover the time frame that they were going to be outstanding. [2:36:11, 2:36:12]: So [2:36:12, 2:36:14]: In that frame of mind. [2:36:15, 2:36:18]: The idea is any moratorium that's in place. [2:36:19, 2:36:25]: you make adjustments of how and the city determines how these particular uses should be allowed. [2:36:26, 2:36:38]: in what districts as a part of the unified development code. And that will be something that we explore um going forward when we bring this back to you in January. So the dates have been set. [2:36:39, 2:36:40]: Consistently. [2:36:41, 2:36:45]: For us to um bring this back to you guys by the end of January. [2:36:46, 2:36:51]: Um in the form of the UDC requirements. And I'll point those out as we do the [2:36:51, 2:36:53]: We make the recommendation in January. [2:36:54, 2:37:06]: Uh sir, just real quick. I I did that's the reason that I wanted that to be explained because we know everybody, not just the Pine View subdivision. [2:37:07, 2:37:09]: That was bought out by [2:37:09, 2:37:12]: A developer and all the homes sold. [2:37:12, 2:37:13]: And turned into rentals. [2:37:14, 2:37:17]: My neighborhood is being overrun by these companies. [2:37:17, 2:37:26]: Buying and renting out homes. Almost everybody all over the city is dealing with these big companies buying up homes. [2:37:27, 2:37:31]: Cash beating out home buyers who desperately want to move here. [2:37:31, 2:37:36]: to rent the property to somebody else. It's disgusting. And that's what's going on out there. [2:37:36, 2:37:56]: This is a critical piece of legislation that, and we're hoping to address this in the ULDC, where a lot of these situations are growing farthered in, but we any new subdivisions coming, we want to have a measure in place to keep what happened to us from happening to anybody else where these companies. [2:37:56, 2:38:03]: can come in and buy a whole neighborhood and make it into a rental community where nobody owns a home. [2:38:03, 2:38:07]: That's not the quality of life that we want in this community. [2:38:07, 2:38:14]: And we've taken a stand. No one can do that to a new subdivision today coming to us because of this moratory. [2:38:15, 2:38:17]: Council uh men Blount, go ahead, please. [2:38:21, 2:38:25]: On a new subdivision that is. On a new subdivision. [2:38:26, 2:38:28]: All right, uh Councilwoman Gantt. [2:38:29, 2:38:31]: Thank you, Mayor. Um [2:38:32, 2:38:47]: I when you look into that, Ms. Johnson, I have some concerns about the the definition of hookah bar slash is the lounges that use hookahs. Um I believe there's some challenges there right now. [2:38:48, 2:38:48]: Where [2:38:49, 2:38:50]: Um [2:38:50, 2:39:10]: And I've heard this from more than one business owner. Um, there might be a restaurant slash lounge or anything of that nature that wants to have hookahs, but they may not necessarily be considered a hookah bar. A hookah bar just has a menu pleather of different hookahs. [2:39:10, 2:39:12]: And different types of [2:39:12, 2:39:24]: I guess hookah, I don't smoke hookahah, so I don't know, but from my understanding, there's a menu of hookah. So let's say at a hookah bar, you might have 20 or 30 different varieties of hookahs, right? [2:39:24, 2:39:33]: at a regular lounge they offer hookah but it's under a certain amount of hookah they might have two or three different [2:39:34, 2:39:39]: flavors or so to call. But right now with our moratorium, the way it's written. [2:39:39, 2:39:51]: it cancels out anyone from having hookahs. And apparently that is a trend within the lounges and the and the club scene that you know our younger generation [2:39:52, 2:39:52]: Uh [2:39:53, 2:40:13]: does this hookah or or whatever the case may be. So I want us to look at maybe a numerical number there so that it will not dispecially those who have tobacco license or whatever the case may be, that it won't affect the necessarily the lounge that has maybe two or three options compared to a [2:40:13, 2:40:14]: Hookah bar. [2:40:14, 2:40:20]: where uh you know a cigar bar or cigar lounge with that just solely that's all they do. [2:40:21, 2:40:24]: Um, I've seen that lately. So if we can kinda [2:40:25, 2:40:32]: See if we can find some type of limits on that and define it to so that the lounges won't get caught up in that rhetoric. [2:40:33, 2:40:41]: Um, you know, with those complications. And I've heard that from at least three or four businesses, at least. [2:40:41, 2:40:42]: Um [2:40:43, 2:40:45]: And so that is a concern. [2:40:45, 2:40:50]: And other than that, in regards to real estate property, um [2:40:51, 2:40:55]: Mm uh mm what Mayor Pro Tem just mentioned, um [2:40:56, 2:41:10]: There's a common trend right now. There was an article done in AJC actually, and there's a common trend right now of different property management companies buying subdivisions or actually building the subdivision with no intention of selling. [2:41:11, 2:41:13]: Their intention is to rent. [2:41:13, 2:41:14]: Um [2:41:14, 2:41:17]: That's an ongoing trend that's just not [2:41:17, 2:41:30]: only here in Stockbridge, but all over the nation going on right now. And I don't know if that's you know apparently there's a high demand for it. There's um research done about millennials. [2:41:30, 2:41:38]: not wanting to purchase but want to rent and and rent for a long period of time, but they don't want an apartment, they want a home, and then they go and they rent somewhere else. [2:41:39, 2:41:45]: And there does need to be limitations. I don't know if that's going to be applicable if it's within our our. [2:41:45, 2:41:49]: jurisdiction to do or if it that's gonna have to be done on a state level. [2:41:50, 2:41:53]: Um are you aware of that, Miss Johnson, or what can be done? [2:41:54, 2:41:59]: Well uh to answer your first question about hookah bars, lounges. [2:41:59, 2:42:19]: Part of the legal review process is going to be to address really case law in regards to hookah bars and lounges. And part of the legal review is to make sure that we're not put having information in our code, which can get us into legal turmoil. So what we would do is make sure we address specifically. [2:42:19, 2:42:28]: Um, what a hookah bar is versus a hookah lounge. And we look at best practices around the region, around the nation, in regards to how those are regulated. [2:42:28, 2:42:48]: And so the the zoning attorneys will make those specific statements, especially with the concern for moratorium being put in place at all. As it pertains to the rental properties for single family detached, you're correct. I mean, this is a constant issue. Um across [2:42:48, 2:42:53]: the region and actually in Henry County I've heard from several of my counterparts. [2:42:53, 2:42:56]: That this is just a a situation that we have to address. [2:42:57, 2:43:17]: Part of what the zoning attorney is going to do is look at and make sure we don't violate federal law, like Fair Housing Act, things like that. So those will be part of this process as the review continues to take place over the next 90 days to ensure that one, we're managing. [2:43:17, 2:43:18]: Yeah. [2:43:18, 2:43:21]: Keeping the the well being and the quality of our [2:43:21, 2:43:27]: of community intact and two making sure we don't violate federal law and [2:43:27, 2:43:30]: Make ourselves susceptible to these lawsuits. [2:43:31, 2:43:41]: So we will address those things specifically. And when we do have the information, we'll I'll make a note to uh bring that specifically to you all when we come back in January to present. [2:43:42, 2:43:47]: Well let me let me clarify. Uh I consider hookabar and lause the same thing. I'm saying [2:43:47, 2:43:57]: a another lounge. Let's say a a lounge that just plays music and have food and and they sell alcohol and they also offer hookahs. [2:43:58, 2:44:01]: Mm-hmm. And I don't go to either. [2:44:01, 2:44:08]: Uh either, but um we will find out for sure what that needs to be. Is what I'm saying. [2:44:08, 2:44:16]: Because right now we're stopping it all. Whereas there's some lounges and there are different places that may want to sell. [2:44:16, 2:44:29]: to offer the service of a few hookah options, but they're not a hookah bar or lounge. But they have they have tobacco license. So they're right now because we have a moratorium, it stops. [2:44:30, 2:44:33]: the lounges from being able to sell [2:44:34, 2:44:39]: the smaller selection of hookahs that they have. And that's what I want our attorneys and that's what I want. [2:44:40, 2:44:46]: um looked into how do we differentiate based off of a number or menu or whatever the case may be. [2:44:46, 2:44:52]: That's the error that in the problem that I'm seeing right now. And that's coming from [2:44:53, 2:44:55]: I think about four different businesses. [2:44:57, 2:45:00]: Definitely something we'll look into uh legal speaking. Definitely do that. [2:45:01, 2:45:03]: Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. [2:45:04, 2:45:10]: Yeah, those those have a lot of those concerns have come my way also because we established what it is about tobacco. [2:45:11, 2:45:15]: And we established that hookahs and vapes are two separate entities. [2:45:16, 2:45:16]: And so [2:45:18, 2:45:20]: But to differentiate [2:45:20, 2:45:25]: All three in his categories. Uh when can we because the [2:45:25, 2:45:27]: If something is defined. [2:45:28, 2:45:36]: Then we as a city have to figure out a way to enforce it. So when will we get something back from you, Ms. Johnson, on on the on defining those uh entities? [2:45:38, 2:45:45]: It's just part of what we'll do to you know get with the legal team once they have had an opportunity to review and provide those specifically. [2:45:45, 2:45:51]: Um then we'll be able to provide that to you all. We think it'll most certainly be before January twenty fifth. [2:45:52, 2:45:55]: Cause of course we want to get the draft to you all to review. [2:45:55, 2:45:56]: Um prior to that time. [2:45:58, 2:45:58]: Thank you. [2:45:59, 2:46:00]: Absolutely. [2:46:00, 2:46:10]: Are there any other questions? And if not, I need a motion to go ahead and extend this moratorium to at least the thirty-first of January, 2023. [2:46:10, 2:46:17]: Move Ms. Blount. Okay, got Mr. Maripotem. Uh made the motion. Mr. Blount, do you second that motion, sir? [2:46:17, 2:46:20]: Okay, good deal. Okay. All in favor, please indicate. [2:46:21, 2:46:28]: Namaste decision. Thank you very much. All right. Now I'll go on to uh my comments. First of all, of course, um [2:46:28, 2:46:33]: October is breast cancer awareness month and also domestic violence awareness month as well. [2:46:33, 2:46:53]: And so and I read those proclamations that are meeting earlier this this month, uh council regular council meeting. So I am wearing purple to honor domestic violence uh awareness month this time as I wore pink the last meeting. So I want to cover that in that aspect. And so thank you very much for that um in that aspect there. So let's see here. [2:46:53, 2:47:00]: We had an outstanding second concert with Freddie Jackson and with Chuka Khan this past Saturday. [2:47:00, 2:47:07]: It wasn't quite a sold-out like our grand opening, but uh obviously we had a good time in this aspect. That is the last concert. [2:47:07, 2:47:27]: uh this particular uh year, this season. And the management companies is working towards at least 12 to 14 concerts for next season, which will start as is right now the mid-March to the end of October. So different types of music will be coming and council you'll get a we'll get a chance to uh get an idea of what those dates and those [2:47:27, 2:47:30]: acts are and assume here about that. [2:47:30, 2:47:50]: So the the the venue is dormant now for several months. And so there'll be some things, so adjustments they go with the amphitheater, some things that the management company is gonna come to us for to make things even better, streamline the whole process of the uh concert uh experience. And also there, as Mr. Blount had uh mentioned before, uh [2:47:50, 2:48:08]: in the sense that uh there will be some construction things going on as well with road improvements to help with the traffic flow in and out of the concert when uh in this aspect as well. So uh so you'll get a chance to uh see those and and review those and approve those particular projects here very shortly, council on that note. [2:48:08, 2:48:28]: Congratulations to the National League champions, the Atlanta Braves. I have no idea what they're doing tonight. I know in their game tonight, so I have no idea whether or not they're winning or not. I don't know if anybody else knows that. But I wish them well, of course, as I imagine you do, you also do. [2:48:28, 2:48:29]: Yeah. [2:48:29, 2:48:34]: It's long overdue. I think things plenty plenty uh what, twenty plus years, I guess, since they b last band or one. [2:48:35, 2:48:36]: Two Nathan Bridge. [2:48:37, 2:48:49]: Two nothing Braves. There you go. All right. So so take care of them Astros, Braves. Do it. So I'm I'm pretty sure everybody's supporting our home team and that they become a World Series champions in that aspect as well. [2:48:50, 2:49:10]: You know, ladies and gentlemen, it's your constitutional right to vote. And so we have uh elections uh uh early early voting going on right now until the 30th, and then of course election days on the on the second. So after municipal elections, so use your constitutional right. Plenty of people gave the blood, sweat, and tears in their lives for your constitutional right. Besides voting on the municipal election, [2:49:10, 2:49:15]: T S Plus, you need to vote T S PLOS and say yes to T S PLOS extremely important. [2:49:17, 2:49:20]: If you say yes, which I hope that the citizens of the county do that. [2:49:20, 2:49:40]: That's roughly$245 million for the county itself and it gives the city of Stockbridge$30.5 million over five-year period. And we can take that$30.5 million and do plenty of road improvements, expansion of the Rock Croix Road. And we can do some road improvements on Eagles Land and Hudson Bridge. We can also [2:49:40, 2:49:59]: Also take the underserved communities of Stockbridge and put in roads, well improve the roads, but put in sidewalks and gutter and pedestrian walkways and a trail network. We want to have a trail network so we can connect communities to one another and connect communities to the downtown area. [2:49:59, 2:50:19]: Downtown area, of course, our vision is to have that entertainment section, entertainment area, tourist attraction. We got the amphitheater there. So what we want to do is we want to have make sure over the bridge that goes over Martin Luther King Senior Heritage Trail and the railroad tracks there. We want to make sure we have a pedestrian asset assigned to that bridge so you can walk from the east side. [2:50:19, 2:50:37]: to the west side without getting hit by a car. You can do it safely. You can travel about. You can go from the amphitheater to the entertainment area of downtown. That's part of the vision, folks. So we need that. And a lot of different streets within the city that we want to improve those roads. And we can do that with a yes vote. [2:50:37, 2:50:39]: When from you when you go vote. [2:50:39, 2:50:59]: On in that aspect, we can do that. We can do it in five years. If we do not pass this countywide, we can eventually get all these things done, but it's going to take probably 15 years or longer. So please vote yes. And matter of fact, uh, on Tuesday, election day, you go to your normal uh site, whether it's the stock. [2:50:59, 2:51:17]: Andor Red Oak. Now I want to make sure I'm accurate on that for the county, for the city and the county, Miss Holliday. On the election on election day, since you're our election supervisor for a state on November 2nd, where do people need to go to make sure to cover this down? Ms. Holliday, please. [2:51:17, 2:51:26]: In the city of Stockbridge, you will be voting on your mayor and council members at Red Oak United Methodist Church. [2:51:26, 2:51:31]: Stockbridge First United Methodist Church and the Merrill Manders Conference Center. [2:51:31, 2:51:33]: If those are also your county. [2:51:34, 2:51:37]: Voting locations, you will be able to make both of those. [2:51:37, 2:51:40]: uh choices for the tea splots and your [2:51:41, 2:51:42]: Municipal. [2:51:42, 2:51:47]: uh candidates in the same location. If that is not your county [2:51:47, 2:51:54]: voting place, you will have to go to your neighborhood voting location to vote for the T Splots. [2:51:56, 2:51:57]: I believe I've covered it, Mayor. [2:51:57, 2:52:17]: Okay, and of course, everything is on our website, it's Starberry's website. We'll take a look at that. And uh please folks go out and vote. We need to we need to say yes, yes to T Splash. And one other thing I'd like to mention to you tonight is that of course we're still in a pandemic. All right. So Red Hawk Field, you can go get tested for COVID-19 on all these variants. All right. [2:52:17, 2:52:31]: All right, and that's located at 143 Henry Parkway, free of charge from 9 a.m. to 3 PM and on Tuesdays through Thursdays. Okay, please do that. And also you can get tested and or even take the vaccination. [2:52:32, 2:52:43]: at uh the public health department. And you can do that by making a reservation, going in, call them, make a reservation, or just walk it and walk into the public health department, which is also located on Henry Parkway in Madonna. [2:52:43, 2:53:03]: That is 800-847-4262. 800-847-4262. Now I would imagine as time goes on, this the boosters are going to start being available for folks in this aspect. So if you're already taking the vaccination, you need a booster, your time is coming. Please do so to get yourself, keep yourself safe. And of course, all the providers. [2:53:03, 2:53:22]: Providers for the vaccination are working on vaccinations for our young folks, for our kids, our children, grade school and high school kids. So that we're gonna please keep up with that. And hopefully, adults, you'll get your children vaccinated so they can continue to be healthy and not spread this virus and keep you healthy in the process. [2:53:22, 2:53:24]: It it as well in this aspect. [2:53:24, 2:53:30]: So continue to look forward to that and continue to be advocates of please getting the vaccination and get tested. [2:53:31, 2:53:35]: And of course after you get tested and find out you're negative, go get the vaccination. [2:53:35, 2:53:46]: Um on that note, oh and by the way, the numbers are going down, so hopefully they'll continue to go down during the Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Year's holiday. Hopefully it will continue to go down. [2:53:46, 2:53:51]: And things uh there's uh things are going down and getting better, whereas Piemont Henry's not getting oversaturated. [2:53:52, 2:53:59]: With individuals in ICO or ICU or people on ventilators, but we want to keep it that way. We want to keep dropping this. And the best way to do this is get vaccinated. [2:54:00, 2:54:08]: On that note, I'll continue on with city council with announcement. City Council meeting 6 p.m. by way of Zoom, the second Monday of each month, which is November 8th. [2:54:09, 2:54:15]: The U council meetings is the at 530 by way of Zoom, second Wednesday of each month. And the next one is November 10th. [2:54:16, 2:54:23]: The Main Street Advisory Board meeting is second Friday of each month, 9 a.m. away of Zoom, which is November 12th. [2:54:23, 2:54:30]: Downtown Development Downtown Development Authority meeting 6 p.m. by way of Zoom, third Tuesday of each month, which is November 16th. [2:54:30, 2:54:36]: Youth Council and Advisory Meeting, 6:30 by way of Zoom, third Tuesday of each month, which is uh November sixteenth. [2:54:36, 2:54:43]: Our next city council work session by way of Zune, the last Tuesday of each month, which is actually November 30th, right after Thanksgiving. [2:54:44, 2:54:50]: And a planning commission meeting at 6 30 by way of Zoom. And it's the revised date for that is December 2nd. [2:54:51, 2:54:53]: Stockbridge annual Veterans Day virtual event. [2:54:54, 2:55:00]: will be Thursday, November 11th, 11 AM, uh Facebook Live and YouTube. [2:55:00, 2:55:05]: And so uh check with your events page uh for more information at the city of Stockbridge. [2:55:05, 2:55:16]: And we have a salute to veterans. Please four pictures of veterans, including name, rank, uh, branch, years of service to Councilman Thomas, as he presents a special tribute to our local veterans. [2:55:16, 2:55:32]: Pictures should be submitted to uh Z Pearson at the city of Stockbridge dash G A.gov. Once again as Z Pearson uh at city of Stockbridge dash G A dot Gov. Uh Zenobia is our assistant to the Marin Council. [2:55:33, 2:55:35]: Submit those no later than November fifth. [2:55:35, 2:55:38]: And of course, thank you for your service in this aspect as well. [2:55:39, 2:55:44]: We also have an opportunity to meet the mayor and voice your questions and concerns on Monday, November twenty second. [2:55:44, 2:55:54]: for 10 a.m. to noon and you can schedule that by calling 770-389-7900 and talk with uh Miss uh Zenobia Pearson about that as well. [2:55:55, 2:56:15]: Support our small local businesses during the entire month of November with special emphasis on Shop Small Saturday, which is November 27th, which is right after Thanksgiving. And okay, small businesses owner, small business owners can register to participate in the Stock Bridge Small Business Blitz and Small Business Saturday by contacting. [2:56:15, 2:56:18]: in the Main Street program office at Main Street. [2:56:19, 2:56:39]: at at city of stopbridge dash ga.gov. Once again Main Street at city of stopbridge dash GA dot gov or contacting Lisa Fare at 6783 3325. Once again Lisa Faree at 678 833 3325. [2:56:38, 2:56:58]: interested in participating in Stockbridge Small Business Blitz and Small Business Saturday are encouraged to attend the annual Small Business Idea Smash on Thursday, November 4th at 6 p.m. by way of Zoom. And once again, check the city's Main Street website on the city events page to get more information about that as well. [2:56:58, 2:57:04]: On that note, uh council, do we have an executive session uh issue? Yes, ma'am. [2:57:05, 2:57:25]: Sorry, if if I may, um I have a fall festival coming up on this Saturday. Um it's from 12 to 4. It's a family fun event. We have a lot of prizes, um some old good old-fashioned fall festival. We're gonna have a costume contest for different age groups. Um [2:57:25, 2:57:29]: Greg Street is our DJ from B103 and [2:57:30, 2:57:50]: Um I have I believe it's just going to be a really good time, a lot of candy and some great vendors and just something to bring the community together. Um make sure you come out. It's at the Clark Park, uh, which is right by Merrill Manders. And it's from 12 to 4 Saturday. I I think everyone will have an [2:57:50, 2:58:00]: Awesome time. We have some rides. We have some, you name it. So I look forward to seeing you there. Um, if you can attend, um, I also um [2:58:01, 2:58:21]: And Alpha Kappa Alpha, Sorority Incorporated, Psi Alpha Omega chapter. That's the Henry County Clayton chapter, chapter that I'm a part of, will also be present. And we're asking, they are asking for the c they're collecting old eyeglasses. Old eyeglasses. They've partnered with, we have partnered. [2:58:21, 2:58:39]: partnered with the Lions Club. And they're collecting old eyeglasses. So if you have any old eyeglasses, please come by. It's a for a great cause. They have agreed to partner with me and actually be present for that. So thank you to my Sol Roars. [2:58:39, 2:58:56]: But more importantly, thank you to all the community that will be participating. And this is just gonna be a fun, fun event. I want us to have some fun. Some cake, we're gonna have a cakewalk and music and walk and candy and you name it. Um just a good time. So [2:58:56, 2:58:57]: Please come and join us. [2:58:57, 2:59:02]: Okay, thank you. Councilwoman Barber, I'm sorry, I I missed yours as well. You have something still going on, ma'am? [2:59:04, 2:59:07]: Yes, Zumba every Saturday at Clark. [2:59:08, 2:59:10]: At eight AM to nine a.m. [2:59:11, 2:59:12]: It's out of it. [2:59:12, 2:59:14]: Councilman Blount, go ahead, sir. [2:59:14, 2:59:20]: Yeah, I just wanted to say, Mayor, since he was talking about the events in November, that uh we have it in the Noel in November is gonna be uh [2:59:21, 2:59:23]: On November the eighteenth, which is um [2:59:23, 2:59:26]: A toy drive and we partner in um [2:59:26, 2:59:40]: partnering with uh we we do it with uh Stevie G and the Rockers, the Vintage Viction's gonna be there, live music, games for kids, and we're we're collecting unwrapped uh t new toys, uh toy drive for kids. Also um [2:59:40, 2:59:42]: Um got a question. [2:59:42, 2:59:43]: Um [2:59:44, 2:59:51]: Chief Trainber mentioned of an event on the sixth at the Merrill Manders. Are are we opening the Merrill Manders now? [2:59:51, 2:59:52]: Just a question. [2:59:53, 3:00:13]: But it's gonna be open on that day for him to have his meeting with the community. And the requirement would be, of course, to have mass and we'll separate individuals and uh spread out in this nature and this aspect. And of course, that's the first one. The second one he plans to have, of course, by the reverbal. And I believe that's on the 16th of the month. [3:00:13, 3:00:20]: And uh so in that aspect, yes, it we're open it for that specific event. And and it was mentioned earlier. [3:00:21, 3:00:40]: Uh actually Mayor Pro Tem did this earlier, but it was mentioned earlier that I also had a District 3 South meeting a couple several months or so ago, a listing session with GMA. And we did that at the exact same time as well, where we spread out and wore masks for that as well. Um I didn't mean to answer for the chief, but uh he's online. I don't know if you need to add anything else or not. [3:00:40, 3:00:54]: uh uh for the comment for your question. But um that that's what's happening for that, sir. You got something else, sir. Go ahead. Yeah, just a follow up. Uh yeah, the the the Noel in November, like I said, is a toy drive and it's a lot, you know, we just want to invite every, you know, the community out. [3:00:54, 3:00:58]: Uh Chief Chairman, um forgive me if I didn't, but I thank you for your presentation. [3:00:58, 3:01:11]: uh that you gave the uh counselor today. Uh I do thank you for that, sir. Uh but it is gonna be on November the 18th. Uh I think it's from five to five to seven, I believe it is. [3:01:11, 3:01:16]: I have to look back on the calendar, but it we got other information coming out soon and gonna be posted on it. But Noel in November. [3:01:17, 3:01:21]: A good deal. Okay, seems like Mare Pro Tem, you got something sir before we close out. [3:01:21, 3:01:41]: Yeah, my uh I want everybody to join me for our town hall uh Thursday night at eight o'clock. So you can actually hear about a hundred million dollars in investment that has been made in the city of Stockbridge over the last few years, even during the pandemic. Uh, you know, we could do a much better job of getting [3:01:41, 3:01:47]: out the information about new businesses that are investing millions of dollars in the community. [3:01:48, 3:01:50]: And you have a chance to hear. [3:01:50, 3:01:52]: Uh from those business owners. [3:01:52, 3:01:54]: And in their own words on why [3:01:55, 3:02:00]: They chose to invest millions of dollars uh in the city of Stockbridge, bolstering [3:02:00, 3:02:20]: The economy. You will also be able to learn about the uh developments that are uh ongoing uh by these uh tremendous business folks. You will also get to understand how serious the traffic will break down uh the traffic projects and what's going on and your opportunity to actually vote. [3:02:20, 3:02:26]: vote in the most important election uh of your lifetime in terms of transportation here. [3:02:26, 3:02:28]: In Henry County, as the mayor said. [3:02:29, 3:02:32]: It's critical on the T splass and we'll actually go into [3:02:33, 3:02:34]: The project detail [3:02:34, 3:02:38]: uh on this town hall so we can uh completely understand. [3:02:38, 3:02:42]: That we're serious about a building Atlanta belt line type trail system. [3:02:42, 3:02:44]: And we're also serious about. [3:02:44, 3:02:46]: Winding rock quarry road. [3:02:47, 3:02:56]: Uh and and fixing the traffic that you complain about every single day will be a full update. So join us Thursday at eight o'clock on Facebook. [3:02:57, 3:03:01]: All right. Appreciate all the all the messages, all those events that coming on. I do not [3:03:02, 3:03:06]: Uh councilman Thomas Player, sir. Yeah, just briefly uh please join me and [3:03:06, 3:03:08]: The Cargran Library. [3:03:08, 3:03:14]: uh on Berk Street for Halloween festivities uh on Thursday. Thank you. [3:03:15, 3:03:31]: Fantastic. And by the way, on that note, everybody please have a safe uh holiday events, all your events in your community in this aspect as well. And don't eat too much candy, right? In this aspect. But uh on that note, uh the attorneys don't have anything that they know of for executive session. So I asked the council, we have anything with executive session or not? [3:03:32, 3:03:33]: Yes or no? [3:03:33, 3:03:42]: Move to adjourn. Okay, so I need okay, motion to adjourn and Mirapal Tim, seconded by uh Councilman Blount. All in favor, please indicate. [3:03:43, 3:03:53]: It's Unancy and we stand adjourned. God bless you all. Thank you. It's Unancy Sizion. Good night, everybody. Have a good time.

--- title: Downtown Development Authority Meeting date: 2021-10-19 source: 2021-10-19_Downtown_Development_Authority_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:02, 0:00:18]: Uh hello everyone. We are at the October regular meeting for the Downtown Development Authority. And uh it's today is October 19th at 6 p.m. Um so uh Bob, if we could start off with uh roll call, please. [0:00:21, 0:00:25]: Okay. Uh Roger Custon? I am here. [0:00:26, 0:00:27]: Uh art Christian. [0:00:28, 0:00:28]: Present. [0:00:29, 0:00:30]: Синікокінь. [0:00:31, 0:00:31]: Present. [0:00:32, 0:00:33]: Um [0:00:33, 0:00:34]: Barber Richardson? [0:00:38, 0:00:38]: Mm. [0:00:39, 0:00:40]: Uh Maxwell Sears. [0:00:43, 0:00:45]: And Bob Swagert the I'm here. [0:00:47, 0:00:51]: And uh Councilwoman Gantt as well. And and Gantt. Councilwoman Gantt. [0:00:54, 0:00:55]: Okay. [0:00:57, 0:01:08]: Well, we do have four out of the seven members, so I believe that constitutes a quorum. So um we will officially open the meeting at six oh three p.m. [0:01:10, 0:01:30]: Right. And uh we also have uh a few of the city staff. Thank you for joining and supporting the DDA, Alan Peterson, Kira, uh Harris Braggs, as well as um our trusted uh uh uh city clerk, Vanessa Holliday. Thank you all for joining. And also for the [0:01:30, 0:01:35]: the record Barber welcome I th I see you've joined as well [0:01:35, 0:01:37]: Yeah, welcome, welcome. [0:01:38, 0:01:55]: Three. All right. So first item on the agenda is to approve today's agenda. So it was sent out on uh October the 13th and a few days later as well. So I'd like to hear a motion to approve today's agenda. [0:01:57, 0:02:03]: I move that we approve the agenda today's agenda. All right, thank you. Second. [0:02:04, 0:02:08]: That was Samequa. Thank you. So is there any discussion? [0:02:12, 0:02:32]: All right, so we will do this by um I I know not all the cameras are on, so uh let's look for whoever has the camera and uh vote to approve today's agenda, we'll raise our hands in favor. And so that is myself, Art, Bob, and Barber. [0:02:32, 0:02:38]: Uh Samaqua, yeah, yes or no for today's agenda. So we'll say yes. So it's unanimous. Thank you. [0:02:42, 0:02:58]: All right, next item on the agenda is the August 17th meeting minutes. They were uh sent on October the 13th. So um I'll uh like to hear a motion not to approve the October 17th meeting minutes as prepared by the city clerk. [0:02:58, 0:03:01]: So moved. Thank you, Art. [0:03:01, 0:03:01]: Second. [0:03:02, 0:03:03]: All right. [0:03:05, 0:03:07]: Second, first. All right. Any discussion? [0:03:11, 0:03:23]: Hearing none, uh, we'll do the same thing. Those with the camera on, you uh raise your hand in favor of approving uh the August 17th meeting minutes. All right, I see unanimous by those and Sumikwa, yes or no? [0:03:23, 0:03:26]: Um, do I have to abstain? Because I wasn't at that meeting. [0:03:27, 0:03:28]: You may. Okay. [0:03:31, 0:03:49]: Thank you. All right. So that uh that moves those items along. So I don't have any uh opening remarks, so we will move right into the uh treasurer's update. So uh Barber, did you want to present or you want me to uh present the report you sent just earlier? [0:03:49, 0:03:54]: You you mean as in on the screen? If you can share your screen. I sure will. Okay. [0:03:54, 0:03:56]: I'm working on two computers. I'm sorry. [0:03:56, 0:04:01]: No worries. Let me get it ready and I'll have it in just a moment. [0:04:03, 0:04:03]: Let me see. [0:04:04, 0:04:05]: Alright. [0:04:08, 0:04:12]: Okay, it is here. Let me share the screen. [0:04:19, 0:04:20]: All right. [0:04:21, 0:04:26]: If you can confirm you can see it. Yes, we can we can. All right, very good. [0:04:28, 0:04:31]: Pretty uneventful. We've actually had no change in cash. [0:04:31, 0:04:32]: Um [0:04:33, 0:04:46]: Since June of 2021, the cash balance has remained the same for July, August, and September. The uh outstanding liability to the city for the trend uh the surveying transaction, that check has been [0:04:46, 0:04:47]: Um [0:04:47, 0:04:53]: sent and I did check the account today and it was cleared but it didn't clear till October but we did send it in September. [0:04:54, 0:05:02]: So as of September 30th, it still shows up as a liability, but as of today, October 19th, it has since cleared the bank. [0:05:02, 0:05:05]: Um the only other items that we have. [0:05:06, 0:05:08]: Roger, if you can scroll down, coming up. [0:05:09, 0:05:15]: Is a legal bill due to our attorney for his review of the bylaws in the IGA. [0:05:16, 0:05:23]: Um, and what's not presented, I think there is gonna be a bill for Zoom, which is gonna just be a monthly ongoing operating expense. [0:05:23, 0:05:27]: Um but as of now that's the only thing that we have outstanding. So [0:05:27, 0:05:36]: Again, cash balance has remained the same for the past three months. In October, we will see that reduction for the Saveane sale. [0:05:36, 0:05:43]: Um, and then we'll probably also see the legal fees and operating expenses, which would be just the Zoom transaction. [0:05:43, 0:05:45]: On the next tab. [0:05:45, 0:05:49]: You'll see that's reflected. We have no expenses that we've incurred on the PNL. [0:05:50, 0:05:52]: The past three months, so [0:05:52, 0:05:59]: We're still sitting, no revenue or no expenses. So we're still kind of just sitting where we were for our last report. [0:06:00, 0:06:03]: I will entertain any questions if you have any. [0:06:07, 0:06:08]: Any f any questions for Barber? [0:06:11, 0:06:13]: I go ahead. [0:06:16, 0:06:32]: All right, I have a question and a comment. So the uh Sylvain uh transaction, I had a follow, I believe after you had sent the check, maybe it was received, I did get a comment from um a note from uh Mr. Wiggins, John Wiggins, the city treasurer, um um asking for the um [0:06:33, 0:06:50]: uh the final paperwork for that transaction. I did forward it to him. So Alan, if there's anything remaining pending from the city's perspective that they need to, you know, receive that payment and close the books on that transaction, uh, please let me know. But I believe I've forwarded what he needed. [0:06:50, 0:06:52]: Um the [0:06:52, 0:07:12]: Uh other question, if I can just bring up the topic about the Zoom. So just since we're here and Vanessa's on as well, um I is it Barber, I don't know if you saw my note, but maybe we can I'd rather go ahead and just set it up with our uh debit accounts. So maybe we can set up a time separate from this meeting to uh do that once you're in the office. All right. [0:07:12, 0:07:14]: Right? Yes. Okay. [0:07:15, 0:07:15]: [436.4, 442.0]: And I think that's it for that I had for financial. Any other comments or questions? [0:07:24, 0:07:25]: All right. Thank you for that. [0:07:26, 0:07:35]: Stop sharing. And next item on the agenda is uh secretary updates. Bob, do you have anything to share with the group? Uh no. [0:07:35, 0:07:36]: All right. [0:07:37, 0:07:51]: Are you okay with this uh uh being on the I mean, I know we approved the agenda, but you know, I just kind of have this sort of uh as a regular item on the agenda to touch base with you if you have anything for the group. Are you cool with leaving it on there like that? Yeah, oh absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. [0:07:51, 0:07:59]: All right. And that brings that brings us to the next item, the Main Street Advisory Board updates. So Barber, I'll start with you and we also have Kara with us today. [0:08:00, 0:08:10]: I've been out. So please, please, I would defer to to Kira as I've uh unfortunately had to miss my last two meetings with Main Street. [0:08:10, 0:08:11]: All right, great. [0:08:12, 0:08:21]: Kira, what do you have for the group? Good evening, everyone. Um, I just wanted to um give you all a few notes on [0:08:22, 0:08:27]: um some of our downtown um projects and [0:08:29, 0:08:30]: Um our amphitheater. [0:08:30, 0:08:34]: We have um as you all know um [0:08:34, 0:08:44]: held a grand opening for the downtown amphitheater. We had a sold-out performance for Gladys featuring Gladys Knight and Patty LaBelle. [0:08:44, 0:08:54]: on the um twenty fifth of September. It was a sold out crowd and we um had a ribbon cutting and all of that good stuff. So it was um [0:08:55, 0:09:03]: Very well received, I think, by the Stockbridge community and the visitors that um came into our midst for that particular. [0:09:03, 0:09:06]: event. We have another [0:09:06, 0:09:11]: Um concert that will be hosted in the amphitheater on October the twenty third. [0:09:12, 0:09:14]: Um that will be featuring um [0:09:14, 0:09:17]: The performers Shaka Khan and Freddie Jackson. [0:09:17, 0:09:21]: And tickets are on sale now for that particular. [0:09:21, 0:09:23]: Performance as well. [0:09:23, 0:09:34]: So if you haven't had a chance to um go to a performance, if you weren't able to go to the grand opening, here's your next chance to be able to. [0:09:35, 0:09:38]: Um, see the amphitheater in action. [0:09:38, 0:09:39]: Um also [0:09:40, 0:09:55]: Um with regard to the amphitheater, we've had several um tours that have um gone um through the amphitheater. So the community is also getting um the opportunity to see the amphitheater. [0:09:56, 0:10:04]: In um different tour groups. So we're hoping that the word is getting spread about the amphitheater, how fabulous it is, and um [0:10:05, 0:10:06]: How um [0:10:07, 0:10:11]: It is going to be um a great asset for the community. [0:10:12, 0:10:19]: With regard to um downtown projects, we have the um Ted Strickland uh repurposing project. [0:10:19, 0:10:21]: Um that bid [0:10:21, 0:10:27]: Um has gone out. I think that um Lisa reported that at your last meeting and um [0:10:28, 0:10:32]: The contractor viz site visit was held um [0:10:32, 0:10:39]: in September on the um fourteenth, I think it was. So that bid should be closing very soon. [0:10:40, 0:10:44]: And um a contractor will be selected for the work on that particular building. [0:10:45, 0:10:47]: Uh one fourteen MLK. [0:10:47, 0:10:58]: Um, which is the our white box project. The contractor bid went out on September the 8th, and a contractor site visit was held on October 5th. [0:10:59, 0:11:04]: So the bid that bid will also be coming to a close at the end of this month as well. [0:11:05, 0:11:05]: The [0:11:06, 0:11:08]: Mm um alleyway project. [0:11:08, 0:11:14]: Uh Main Street hosted an Allery Project presentation uh meeting on September the twenty-seventh. [0:11:14, 0:11:34]: It was very well attended. We had the majority of the property owners for the buildings that are on both Burke Street and Martin Luther King Senior Caritage Trail, including representatives from the lodge, the Masonic Lodge, were at this particular meeting. [0:11:34, 0:11:38]: Uh, Falcon design consultants uh provided an overview. [0:11:38, 0:11:43]: of the project and were there to field any questions that [0:11:43, 0:11:49]: folks had with regard to the project. This was our first time really presenting it to um the [0:11:50, 0:11:53]: Property owners who would be impacted by [0:11:53, 0:11:54]: B. [0:11:54, 0:12:02]: Project. So we were very excited to see so many people. I think only um two property owners were not. [0:12:03, 0:12:07]: Um there, but I have talked with one of them since. [0:12:07, 0:12:11]: The uh meeting and have scheduled a time for them to. [0:12:11, 0:12:14]: Come downtown and meet with me to talk about the project. So [0:12:15, 0:12:18]: That leaves only one property owner that we have to [0:12:18, 0:12:22]: um touch so to speak to make sure that they know what we're planning for. [0:12:23, 0:12:24]: Um that project. [0:12:25, 0:12:27]: We are also going to be [0:12:27, 0:12:42]: um meeting with each property owner individually so that we can talk with them about any concerns that they may have and any input that they have with regard to the plans. And then once we have met with everyone, [0:12:42, 0:12:46]: those plans will be finalized and we'll be able to send that project out for be it. [0:12:47, 0:12:50]: And that's about all that I have with regard to [0:12:51, 0:12:53]: Our projects in the downtown area. [0:12:56, 0:12:57]: And that concludes my report. [0:12:59, 0:13:01]: Uh Art looks like you have a question for Kira. [0:13:02, 0:13:04]: Yes, Kira, could you give us the uh [0:13:04, 0:13:10]: Approximate timeframe of the Alloway project going to bid. I know it's gotta go through the process, but [0:13:11, 0:13:12]: Approximate. [0:13:14, 0:13:14]: You muted. [0:13:17, 0:13:17]: You're muted. [0:13:18, 0:13:19]: Sorry about that. [0:13:19, 0:13:21]: Um I [0:13:21, 0:13:28]: Don't want to give a date for a start date because we still have to meet with all of the property owners and [0:13:29, 0:13:34]: We have to get finalized designs um before we can take it to bed. [0:13:34, 0:13:38]: I would like for everything to go to bed before the end of the year. [0:13:38, 0:13:39]: Um [0:13:39, 0:13:49]: But that will just depend on how quickly we can meet with all of the property owners, get their feedback, then get with the um engineers and [0:13:49, 0:13:50]: Get all of that. [0:13:51, 0:13:54]: Stuff completed before we can even put it out to be when the bid. [0:13:54, 0:13:56]: process is about um [0:13:57, 0:13:59]: Two to three months, I think it is. [0:14:00, 0:14:01]: So [0:14:01, 0:14:06]: Um, we're hoping that we can at least start it before the end of the year. [0:14:07, 0:14:08]: Thank you. [0:14:08, 0:14:09]: Mm-hmm. [0:14:11, 0:14:12]: Any other questions for Kira? [0:14:15, 0:14:35]: Um, I I I kind of want to follow up with the sort of with the art's comment. Um, I I know there were, you know, the next step for the alleyway project would be to get, you know, basically sign off from each of the business owners that are impacted by that area. And I know there's been some feedback on, you know, some possible design adjustments to uh what was presented at that meeting. [0:14:35, 0:14:49]: meeting. Do you do you feel optimistic here? Uh I mean, that that's resolvable at this stage? What what what are your thoughts as far as uh you know the concerns that were raised during and after the meeting? [0:14:50, 0:14:51]: Um [0:14:51, 0:14:59]: I would say it's kind of a mixed bag. There were a couple of people who are not in favor of the project at all. [0:14:59, 0:15:04]: Um which was kind of surprising. Um I think that we [0:15:04, 0:15:18]: Um, the fact that we are willing to do something should have been um, or at least I'd hoped would have been incentive to get a lot of at least preliminary buy-in um at that particular meeting, but there were some people who [0:15:19, 0:15:19]: Um [0:15:20, 0:15:20]: Did not [0:15:21, 0:15:22]: Like the project at all. [0:15:23, 0:15:29]: And then but the majority did like the project and felt like it would be an improvement in the um alleyway. [0:15:29, 0:15:35]: There was um some contention about our plan to [0:15:35, 0:15:38]: Um, replace some of the асфальт. [0:15:38, 0:15:43]: that is back there that would have to be torn out um to do some of the [0:15:43, 0:15:44]: Um [0:15:44, 0:15:47]: Drainage work with gravel as opposed to [0:15:47, 0:15:52]: replacing the asphalt and the reason we were going in that direction was so that it would be [0:15:53, 0:15:56]: Um better ready for development. [0:15:56, 0:15:59]: Um, as opposed to having the [0:15:59, 0:16:02]: putting down new asphalt and then having that torn out. [0:16:02, 0:16:08]: If a new development um came along, you know, we have an el economic development director on board now. [0:16:08, 0:16:10]: So um [0:16:10, 0:16:13]: You know, we're trying to aggressively try to get some infill there. [0:16:14, 0:16:19]: But so that's one of the things that we might have to go back to the drawing board on and just see what [0:16:20, 0:16:21]: Um cost [0:16:22, 0:16:27]: would be incurred with placing asphalt there as opposed to the gravel. [0:16:28, 0:16:30]: Um, also [0:16:30, 0:16:37]: There was some um concern about some of the landscaping that we had proposed with regard to. [0:16:37, 0:16:38]: Um the [0:16:39, 0:16:53]: the rears, the rear portions of those buildings up against those buildings. That's something that can be easily eliminated. We just won't do landscaping close to the buildings and maybe not any landscaping at all. Just make it kind of a [0:16:54, 0:16:54]: Um [0:16:55, 0:16:56]: A um [0:16:56, 0:17:00]: Blank surface, so to speak. We'd still do the pavers, but [0:17:00, 0:17:05]: leave out some of the landscaping ideas that were designed into the plan. [0:17:05, 0:17:06]: Um [0:17:06, 0:17:21]: So it's it's gonna have to be some more conversation to make sure that we can get at least the majority of people happy with uh what we'd like to propose. Um, but it is going to be very important. [0:17:21, 0:17:22]: That we get. [0:17:22, 0:17:23]: Um [0:17:24, 0:17:30]: a a large majority of the people on board with it or we won't be able to move forward because of the properties that will be impacted. [0:17:33, 0:17:53]: Thank you. Um I guess a couple of points with that is um is it an all or nothing as far as uh the agreement? Does every business owner have to sign off on it in order to in order to move forward or do you just need a majority or is that kind of are you just kind of I don't know if that's I don't know what the, you know, whether you need to [0:17:52, 0:18:06]: specific approval from each and every owner that's it's really a pro it's really a a courtesy to for the city to even be um you know having these discussions really with the property owners um because [0:18:07, 0:18:26]: In all honesty, that the majority of that property that we wanted to work with belongs to the city. So we could just only be speaking with the people whose properties will actually be impacted as far as us needing to have easement or some sort of access onto their properties. Um so I would say no, but [0:18:26, 0:18:30]: With a project of this magnitude, it would be nice to get. [0:18:30, 0:18:36]: Um the majority of people happ happy with the project and um on board with it. [0:18:36, 0:18:42]: Um, so I don't want to say it's an all or nothing, but if it turns into something that's really contentious. [0:18:43, 0:18:45]: I think that it could threaten the [0:18:45, 0:18:47]: The viability of the project. [0:18:48, 0:18:52]: Surely, surely. And is there anything that the D D A can do to help? [0:18:53, 0:18:58]: um sort of build support in this, you know, to move, you know, to help move the project forward. [0:18:58, 0:19:15]: Um definitely um support the project. Um in its once we have some final drawings, support the project. If you all have relationships with any of those business owners, um please talk to them and um emphasize how. [0:19:15, 0:19:35]: Um important this is for the downtown and creating a more walkable, more um engaging space in the alleyway because our vision was to be able to utilize the alleyway as an extension of those businesses to [0:19:35, 0:19:44]: Make it so that we could even use that space as possible event space and auxiliary. [0:19:44, 0:19:46]: Patio, if you will. [0:19:46, 0:19:52]: So it's very important that this get done because it has been a neglected [0:19:52, 0:19:58]: um property and alleyway for a very long time. And I think that [0:19:58, 0:20:02]: Its unsightliness is a detraction. [0:20:02, 0:20:03]: Um [0:20:03, 0:20:06]: And maybe even a deterrent to um [0:20:06, 0:20:21]: businesses wanting to locate in the downtown because of its unsightliness and um neglect. So I'm hoping that when we after we've talked to all of the business owners and property rather property owners again. [0:20:21, 0:20:25]: And get a baseline of what we need to do to. [0:20:25, 0:20:40]: um correct some of the things that we can correct with regard to the design. If we had host another meeting, it would be great to have DDA members present. And we did have some DDA members present at the meeting that we hosted in September, if we can have [0:20:41, 0:20:48]: um everyone on board, Main Street and DDA to just kind of be that voice of support, I think that that would be helpful. [0:20:49, 0:20:57]: Indeed. And you know, if it helps in any form, um beyond that, like to maybe um ask the board for hold on just a minute. I'm sorry. [0:21:00, 0:21:05]: I can't for you. Sorry, I'm sharing a space with my daughter who's also [0:21:05, 0:21:25]: On a Zoom meeting. That's all right. I was gonna offer is you know, uh once once once we have um, you know, uh like a design that you feel is appropriate to bring to this board, the DDA, for maybe a formal, you know, approval, you know, ask the board to formally uh approve or adopt or resolve to, you know, support the plan if that gives [0:21:25, 0:21:26]: Any kind of um [0:21:26, 0:21:39]: you know, formal support for it. We know I'm I'm happy to, you know, if you want to bring that forward to okay. That sounds good. And I think that that would be helpful because um we need as much support as we can um to get this done. [0:21:39, 0:21:49]: Agreed. All right. Well, thank you for that. Um, all right, so we'll move on to the next item on the agenda, the facade grant updates. Um, Art, do you have anything to update for the group? [0:21:49, 0:21:55]: Yes, and I'm gonna talk to you offline a little bit more, uh Roger, but one great thing about attending [0:21:55, 0:21:56]: They [0:21:57, 0:21:59]: Alleyway project uh meeting. [0:21:59, 0:22:14]: was afterwards, you know, I was interested in in just going back back there and uh Lisa happened to be back there with one of the homeowners, excuse me, the uh business owners. And I asked if I could join, you know, you know, the walkthrough uh, you know, talking about the issues back there. [0:22:14, 0:22:15]: And [0:22:17, 0:22:20]: It's I really saw the need for. [0:22:20, 0:22:26]: moving faster on facade grants. Um this business owner was very interested in that. [0:22:27, 0:22:29]: And um ліса also offered. [0:22:30, 0:22:31]: Uh [0:22:32, 0:22:37]: mentioned that the help that's available, I believe, through DCA in terms of [0:22:37, 0:22:39]: their expertise in [0:22:39, 0:22:43]: Working with those types of projects, uh, design, I believe. [0:22:43, 0:22:44]: Also [0:22:44, 0:22:46]: So that's definitely something [0:22:46, 0:22:47]: Um [0:22:47, 0:22:54]: that I definitely recognize and uh understand the need for to help move move that project along uh quicker. [0:22:54, 0:22:56]: And to get people's buy in. [0:22:56, 0:22:57]: They can say, Hey [0:22:57, 0:23:00]: We can get something that can help spruce up this area. [0:23:00, 0:23:01]: Like for example [0:23:02, 0:23:05]: Uh as Kira was pointing out and the uh [0:23:06, 0:23:07]: The developers um [0:23:08, 0:23:09]: Or the designers. [0:23:09, 0:23:11]: Talking about the importance of those pavers. [0:23:12, 0:23:19]: And you know, there was a little opposition at first, but as they explained it and said how it would be so much better, you know, for a number of reasons. [0:23:19, 0:23:24]: Um you started seeing some people, you know, moved by, you know, after they finally understood, you know. [0:23:25, 0:23:27]: the potential of how it could improve their property. So [0:23:28, 0:23:32]: Um there hasn't been any movement on um on fletchers of course. [0:23:32, 0:23:35]: Um, you know, that's still in his that the bottle's still in his court in terms of [0:23:36, 0:23:42]: whether it are they're choosing to, you know, finish those repairs and submit those for reimbursement. But that's all I have. [0:23:43, 0:23:49]: All right, thank you. Um I guess on the last point, if I well, first of all, any questions for art or any any comments or questions for about the facade grant? [0:23:52, 0:24:12]: Um I I I you know we we did have the opportunity to speak to Mr. Fletcher. He was among the attendees at the uh alleyway project presentation. And um I I think you know my sense of it is that um you know it may require a little bit of just to bring that one to closure, um I think it may require a a [0:24:12, 0:24:28]: visit during business hours when I believe it's his daughter that um kind of helps handle the uh books and may be able to provide the paperwork. Cause I think in his mind he thought he'd turned everything over. And you know what he's uh we we know that what we received were [0:24:28, 0:24:48]: you know, invoices and proposals, but not actual uh pay, you know, receipts showing payment. And so, you know, there is a difference, and we really can't cut a check until we get those receipts. So I would say, you know, if there's any way myself or any of us, you know, on this team can help um, you know, just sort of help move. [0:24:48, 0:24:57]: move move him and and and his uh along so we can bring that to a conclusion. I'd like to see that happen. And the timing of that I think is is helpful both [0:24:57, 0:25:10]: just in general to support the facade grant, but also to uh help um provide some relationship building as it relates to the alleyway project, you know, showing that the city is, you know, meeting its part. [0:25:11, 0:25:12]: Roger. [0:25:12, 0:25:12]: Yes. [0:25:15, 0:25:18]: Just had a quick a quick question. Yes. Um [0:25:20, 0:25:26]: I think where we left it as far as when I was speaking with Mr. Fletcher, it was the [0:25:26, 0:25:30]: um issue with the permitting of the [0:25:30, 0:25:30]: Um [0:25:31, 0:25:34]: painting that had to be done and that had been resolved. [0:25:35, 0:25:46]: So I know that the question had been asked of the D D A about the fees that were associated with that, if it would be covered with the grant. Has he been told that that would be covered or? [0:25:47, 0:25:49]: Is that what some of the [0:25:49, 0:25:52]: Slowdown is or is there something else? [0:25:54, 0:26:14]: It it's hard to say, Art. I don't know if you have any different take on this. My my take is that um there was a there was quite a bit of confusion between the the sign and the sign permit at as it relates to being reimbursed for the work that he did do. Um we're looking at it, you know, the sign was technically never in scope for the facade grant because. [0:26:13, 0:26:27]: because it's it's just signage is not part of the scope. Uh but he did do many other things that are re you know are in scope for the grant, such as the repainting of the building and, you know, anything else that he uh had done in in that relation. So [0:26:28, 0:26:31]: Um I d I know that the I believe the um [0:26:31, 0:26:32]: The um [0:26:33, 0:26:41]: The city council voted to waive the signed fee for Mr. Fletcher to kind of help resolve that issue. [0:26:41, 0:26:46]: Um but you know, I in either case it's not related to the reimbursement for the facade grant. [0:26:47, 0:26:56]: But that's a part of the grant. The the painting of the striping and all of that was a part of the facade grant that he was requesting. [0:26:57, 0:27:01]: So if the that was one of the things that I guess was um [0:27:02, 0:27:04]: One of the slow down [0:27:04, 0:27:06]: One of the reasons for slowdown [0:27:06, 0:27:17]: from his point of view was because the it was unresolved as to whether or not he would have to pay the fees. The signage has been approved. It just has to be painted onto the building. [0:27:18, 0:27:29]: So because it's a being painted as opposed to a standalone signage, um, that's a part of the facade, so it should be covered by the [0:27:29, 0:27:31]: Um grant and [0:27:31, 0:27:35]: It he should be able to move forward, especially if the fees have been waived. [0:27:36, 0:27:56]: Right. Well, you know, that's work that hasn't yet been done. And, you know, in my mind, I'd like to just bring this particular case to a close for the work that was done. He did it. He did do a lot. I mean, you know, they did they repaved, they did a lot of stuff, you know, related and unrelated to the foot facade grant during the renovation that. [0:27:56, 0:28:08]: there. And I'd I'd I'd like to see, you know, let's go ahead and, you know, show receipts, get them reimbursed for the work that was done. And, you know, I think part of the um [0:28:08, 0:28:27]: clarification of the facade grant procedures would be at what point could he could a business owner resubmit for an additional grant if say he does paint the sign at a later time or do something else as far as a facade grant. I don't know whether we're really clear on at what point can [0:28:28, 0:28:48]: you'd be eligible for yet another facade grant sometime later. And isn't the isn't the um the striping a part of this original facade grant? I don't understand why he would have to request another one. Well it didn't get done. You know, I'm I it's been over two years. But the reason [0:28:48, 0:28:55]: It wasn't done was because of the slowdown with regard to the fees, from what I understand. So now that council has voted. [0:28:55, 0:28:57]: For the fees to be waived. [0:28:57, 0:29:05]: Maybe he needs to be um spoken with again to say, hey, there are no fees associated with this. Go on and paint your striping. [0:29:06, 0:29:07]: I'll I'll definitely say that [0:29:07, 0:29:09]: That signage. [0:29:09, 0:29:10]: Is like [0:29:10, 0:29:11]: One of the main [0:29:12, 0:29:14]: uh features of that [0:29:15, 0:29:19]: That facade being, you know, redone. Yeah. Right. [0:29:20, 0:29:30]: I agree. It was very attractive in its per in the mock up. Yes. Well I'll I'll definitely and whoever would like to, you know, go with me, I'll definitely go by the Fletchers this week. [0:29:30, 0:29:31]: А то спеквит. [0:29:32, 0:29:33]: Uh because like like I said that [0:29:34, 0:29:36]: That signage, it was beautiful, and that's the type of [0:29:37, 0:29:39]: signage that we would want in that area. [0:29:39, 0:29:46]: Um and then it through the breeze way. Uh so I'll definitely go by there this week to talk to them about it. [0:29:47, 0:29:50]: to the whole look and feel of the building and that corner. So [0:29:51, 0:29:54]: I would like for him to be encouraged to go on and [0:29:54, 0:29:56]: Paint it so that [0:29:56, 0:30:02]: But I think asking him to do another process would just totally turn him off. [0:30:02, 0:30:08]: Well, I mean some I'm guessing at that, but I'm thinking that that probably would not be ideal. [0:30:08, 0:30:15]: I I I I hear you and I agree with you. I just I'm concerned that he may be unwilling to [0:30:17, 0:30:21]: put out more money into the project when there's already been [0:30:23, 0:30:43]: whatever perception of hassle for what he felt he was promised to begin with. So that that's why I was kind of thinking, well, can we just bring what he's done to a close and um, you know, put it back on him. But, you know, either way is fine. Um, I just I really would like to bring this to to some form of closure. [0:30:42, 0:30:51]: Ideally with the with the sine mural painted is is the best option. Yes, I agree, but that's assuming he's willing to do that. [0:30:52, 0:30:52]: Okay. [0:30:54, 0:31:00]: I'll definitely bring back an update on and I'll do it before the meeting, but especially for the next meeting also. [0:31:01, 0:31:01]: Great. [0:31:02, 0:31:12]: Okay, well thank you for that. All right. Uh anything uh we'll move on to the next item. So city staff updates. Uh Mr. Peterson. Thanks for uh thanks for joining. [0:31:13, 0:31:17]: Oh no problem. Um good evening everyone. Uh my update [0:31:18, 0:31:24]: Is about the business recruitment and retention committee. Uh we had our first meeting on [0:31:24, 0:31:34]: the fourth of October that was the first Monday of this month. We meet again on Monday, November the first at six o'clock. Um we discussed [0:31:34, 0:31:39]: Uh a lot of things and I emailed the notes to the committee members. [0:31:39, 0:31:50]: Uh so next meeting, uh hopefully we have some suggestions and some follow-ups to those notes that are in in red. But um the meeting went well and I look forward to working with [0:31:50, 0:31:51]: with the committee. [0:31:56, 0:31:59]: All right. Anything anything else, uh, Alan for the group? [0:32:00, 0:32:03]: Uh that that's about it for right now. Just the BRR report. [0:32:04, 0:32:04]: Okay. [0:32:05, 0:32:22]: Um I did I did have a chance to review the notes and I have a couple of uh comments or questions. Um the under um section five C acquire marketing data. There's a note there that marketing data will marketing data will be acquired through the DDA marketing plan. Is that [0:32:23, 0:32:30]: Was that accurate? Uh I because I'm not familiar that there's any effort on the DDA's part to develop a marketing plan. [0:32:30, 0:32:36]: Well i it was it was it was the marketing plan that goes along with the that master plan. [0:32:37, 0:32:39]: That's what I was referring to. [0:32:40, 0:32:49]: Um but if um Oh the the the market study. Okay. I got you. The market study, yeah. The the market study is what I'm gonna do. [0:32:49, 0:33:04]: All right. Um let's see. And then what to under additional tasks. There's two two questions under there that I had there. It says request for information, but I wasn't clear what the RFI would be for. [0:33:05, 0:33:22]: Uh the RFI is is for investors. I usually when they look at a community, they request um RFI and in that we'll just have information about the community, incentives, and things of that nature. So I I think everyone's involved in that task. Is that correct? It should be uh DDA. [0:33:23, 0:33:35]: Um well the committee, economic development and community development. Community development is there because they play a huge part in the incentives. [0:33:35, 0:33:37]: So in the RFI. [0:33:38, 0:33:39]: In the RFI. [0:33:40, 0:33:40]: Um [0:33:41, 0:33:46]: A large part is is the incentives that we offer to attract to attract investors. [0:33:47, 0:34:03]: Okay, so what and just to make sure I understand it correctly, this would be a request for information that would be posted by the potential investors requesting information of the city, mainstream and DDA to respond. We're the respondents. [0:34:03, 0:34:14]: Yeah, we we would we would we would provide it. I'm gonna send a template similar to the way I did for the business recruitment and retention program. Yes. Yeah. I I'm gonna I'm gonna work on a template. [0:34:14, 0:34:17]: for the RFI. So um [0:34:18, 0:34:20]: So we'll have a better understanding and I'll have that. [0:34:21, 0:34:21]: At the next meeting. [0:34:22, 0:34:23]: That's great. [0:34:23, 0:34:28]: Mm-hmm. And the last just I didn't understand the acronym B R E program. What does that say for? [0:34:29, 0:34:30]: Business recruitment in [0:34:30, 0:34:31]: And uh [0:34:32, 0:34:33]: Business recruitment and retention. [0:34:33, 0:34:35]: Okay. The R R program. [0:34:39, 0:34:50]: Or did I put the BRE program? It says BRE and I I wasn't I didn't uh I wasn't sure what that okay business recruitment and expansion. And I sent yeah, I sent that template. [0:34:51, 0:34:54]: Uh with the with the agenda and all the documents. [0:34:56, 0:34:56]: Right. [0:34:57, 0:35:01]: So if if if you all could if the committee could review that and [0:35:01, 0:35:05]: I'm I'm taking all suggestions pertaining to that program. [0:35:05, 0:35:06]: And we'll discuss that again. [0:35:07, 0:35:08]: At the [0:35:08, 0:35:10]: At the uh November first meeting. [0:35:11, 0:35:15]: All right. So we'll we have that template and I'll provide an RFI template as well. [0:35:17, 0:35:21]: Excellent. Anyone else have comments or questions for Alan? [0:35:23, 0:35:43]: All right, we'll move on to uh uh council McGantt is not um uh present, so we'll move on to the there's no new business to discuss on the agenda. So uh old business, uh downtown strategic work plan. Uh Alan mentioned uh one of the committee assignments. Uh I also [0:35:43, 0:36:03]: So uh was I'm leading the uh Tourism Development Committee and we did meet uh late in September. And basically we just kind of introduced the committee, the tasks that were associated with it, and established the committee. So there's not a lot to report there other than the fact that we've met, we've established the committee, and then we [0:36:03, 0:36:23]: We we shared the task and I've asked for feedback from the committee as far as uh who the appropriate assignees are for each of the tasks and appropriate timelines. So I'll probably have more substantive to report in our next meeting regarding that. Um any any comments or questions on any of the committees? And I know, Kiri, you've you've scheduled the [0:36:23, 0:36:43]: the ones that you're leading as well for starting a number. Yes, and I just wanted to um just comment that Main Street staff has been just extremely busy in September and turns out in October as well. So we were unable to host our work plan committees that we are um lead um designated [0:36:42, 0:36:52]: lead on. So um we weren't able to host those as we had hoped in the month of October. But new dates um have been sent out to [0:36:52, 0:37:03]: um to committee members as you've mentioned. Um but just wanted to say that downtown connectivity and design has been scheduled for November 2nd for our first meeting at 6 p.m. [0:37:04, 0:37:12]: And then the downtown beautification and activation um meeting is gonna be on a Wednesday, November the 10th. [0:37:12, 0:37:25]: And again, I've sent those um meeting invitations out to those people who have signed up for those particular committees. And I'm looking forward to meeting, going over our task list. [0:37:25, 0:37:30]: And um getting feedback. So I'll be able to report something at our next meeting, hopefully. [0:37:31, 0:37:31]: Right. [0:37:31, 0:37:47]: And and I'm I'll go ahead and mention, and this goes for I think all of the committees, um, we're you know, each of the bo e uh every one of the uh Main Street NDDA members were asked to um, you know, participate in at least one of the committees. But I I do wanna say [0:37:48, 0:37:58]: All the committees are open to anyone who wishes to participate or to attend. I think the only caveat I would throw in there would be to um [0:37:58, 0:38:01]: uh just if it's going to cause a quorum. [0:38:02, 0:38:22]: for either the DDA or the Main Street just to you know be careful because then it becomes subject to open records laws and we would have to you know uh publish the meet you know do all that stuff so um but if any of you are interested in another committee and just uh hearing or participating uh in something other than the one you were assigned contact myself [0:38:21, 0:38:24]: Kira or Alan and we'll be happy to include you. [0:38:27, 0:38:47]: All right. Um I have uh administrative zoo zoom storage increase as the next item. Um just basically we've increased our zoom storage for this uh service here. We had um it it kind of doubled the cost, which I was a little frustrated with, but because we only have one meeting a month, but okay. [0:38:47, 0:39:07]: That's that's that was this the that was their price point. That's how they get the people, I guess. But um so that's been done and um and we'll take care of that. But um the next item, and so thank you to the board for uh uh supporting that uh expense. So the um main item I wanted to touch on today for everyone's uh vote. [0:39:06, 0:39:26]: And approval is the uh updated DDA bylaws. So uh special thanks to Samequa and Bob and our attorney who has helped us. We've met uh uh several times to go over the existing bylaws and sort of uh weed through the areas that um we felt needed update. Uh a lot of this was spotted. [0:39:26, 0:39:46]: respond by the um there was a requirement in the uh current in our current set of bylaws that um that we had to um uh name a recording secretary, but then it wasn't clear as to whether that recording secretary is or is not a board member or whether that role could be served by the existing [0:39:46, 0:39:58]: voted secretary. So it was very ambiguous. And that's what kind of caused us to look at the bylaws and then clean up some of the other language. So um I've shared the um [0:39:58, 0:40:18]: the the uh the draft, the proposed draft with uh everyone on uh October the thirteenth. You should have received it via email. Uh I'm happy to share it on the screen and we can go through it line by line or we can just uh go directly to move to vote. Um I'll kind of open it up for general discussion if anyone has any preference on how to uh [0:40:18, 0:40:29]: proceed with approving uh consideration for approving the bylaws. Um any thoughts on that? This is the uh these are the these are the bylaws. There's a lot of legalese, obviously, but uh [0:40:30, 0:40:36]: Um any did any I but I guess I'll ask did everyone have the opportunity to review them and are there any questions? [0:40:37, 0:40:37]: Yeah. [0:40:41, 0:40:41]: No. [0:40:41, 0:40:46]: I think we can just vote on them since we've had two board members and our attorney. [0:40:47, 0:40:54]: Um and and had a few days to look at it ourselves, I'll be okay with just voting on it instead of going line by line. [0:40:54, 0:40:54]: All right. [0:40:56, 0:41:00]: Does anyone need more time to review it? I'll I guess ask the question that way. [0:41:01, 0:41:03]: I know we all have other commitments and [0:41:05, 0:41:21]: Okay, not hearing any, then uh I'll go ahead and make the motion that we adopt the uh revised uh DDA bylaws um as presented and shared with the uh group on um the that was sent to the group uh to the DDA board on October the thirteenth. [0:41:24, 0:41:25]: A second. [0:41:27, 0:41:30]: Roger barber second. [0:41:31, 0:41:36]: Any um any discussion or comments, questions from anyone? [0:41:40, 0:41:45]: Okay, hearing none, seeing none. Um looking for some equal. [0:41:46, 0:42:06]: Samik, were you still with us? I'm here, yes. Oh, good. I didn't sorry. I didn't see you on the list for a second. Uh all right. So we will uh we will do this by uh by vote. So all those in favor of adopting the revised uh bylaws, please uh raise your hand in approval. Yes. And I hear yes from Samik. [0:42:06, 0:42:11]: Equa and I see uh art barbas and my hand. Um [0:42:11, 0:42:31]: Bob, are you still with us? Yes. Okay. And Bob is yes. All right. So we have a unanimous approval. Thank you all for your support on that. And thank you again to the uh committee, uh Samiquan Bob, for all the work that you did on that. That's um, I think it's a much cleaner outcome. And that is the last item on the agenda. [0:42:31, 0:42:35]: agenda for today. I'll open it up for general discussions or questions from anyone. [0:42:39, 0:42:43]: Has anybody heard anything about how the the restaurant is going? [0:42:46, 0:42:47]: I have not said. [0:42:48, 0:42:55]: Has uh I don't know Alan if you or or even Kira if you would hear anything from the Sylvain project. [0:42:59, 0:43:01]: I have not heard anything. [0:43:01, 0:43:01]: Yeah. [0:43:02, 0:43:05]: I know the city is still using it as storage. [0:43:07, 0:43:11]: Which you know, I found odd they don't own the property anymore. [0:43:13, 0:43:17]: I s I saw some activity. I don't think that they're supposed to be. [0:43:17, 0:43:22]: I think that um there were some things put in there unbeknownst to [0:43:22, 0:43:23]: Um [0:43:23, 0:43:25]: I guess the [0:43:25, 0:43:27]: City manager who had the [0:43:28, 0:43:30]: The space cleaned out prior. [0:43:30, 0:43:38]: Um, to them taking possession of the building. I think some things were put in there, thinking that it was still okay to put stuff in there. [0:43:38, 0:43:39]: All right. [0:43:39, 0:43:57]: I think I noticed activity it was w the day of the amphitheater, the day before, day after. It was right around their the grand opening of the amphitheater. I noticed the, you know, the door was open and they were getting stuff in and I was like, okay, that's city staff. That's not their property anymore. [0:43:57, 0:44:04]: Yeah, that that was observed and I think it's been um mentioned. So hopefully they're taking some action with that. [0:44:06, 0:44:08]: [2650.0, 2664.5]: Maybe the new owner needs to change the locks. But all right. No, I'd rather like I'd rather see, you know, obviously something go up there. But uh yeah, I come bob, thank you for asking that. I had the same question. Yeah, I'm just now that we have got the amphitheater open and so I'm I'm you know, um [0:44:25, 0:44:28]: Anxious to see that uh completed. [0:44:28, 0:44:29]: That's right. Restaurant. [0:44:30, 0:44:35]: I think we all are. Any other questions or comments before we close? [0:44:38, 0:44:45]: Okay, seeing none seeing none and hearing none, I will um I'll go ahead and make the motion to adjourn the meeting. Um [0:44:45, 0:44:46]: Anyone want a second? [0:44:47, 0:45:07]: Second. Okay. That was I heard it from Bob first. Bob second. Roger motion. All right. All those in favor, raise your hand. And I hear a yes from Samequa. All right. We are closing the meeting at 646 PM. Thank you all for your time and your service to the city. [0:45:07, 0:45:13]: Have a great evening. Bye-bye. You too, boy. Thank you. Good night, everyone. Good night. Thank you. Good night. [0:45:14, 0:45:15]: Good night.

--- title: October 11 2021 City Council Meeting date: 2021-10-11 source: 2021-10-11_October_11_2021_City_Council_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:00]: quoi [0:00:03, 0:00:06]: Okay, folks, we are now recording and the webinar has started. [0:00:11, 0:00:12]: F five fifty four. [0:00:17, 0:00:21]: Welcome, Mr. Harris, uh Chief Trammer. Welcome, gentlemen. [0:00:24, 0:00:26]: Hello everyone. [0:00:26, 0:00:27]: Good evening all. [0:00:28, 0:00:31]: I'm sorry. How are you doing, Mildred? Good good evening to you as well. [0:00:41, 0:00:45]: Good evening, everyone. Forgive me, I'm driving, so I'm gonna mute myself here. [0:00:48, 0:00:49]: Good deal. No problem, sir. Be safe. [0:01:04, 0:01:05]: Yeah. [0:02:03, 0:02:03]: [124.5, 125.1]: Yeah. [0:02:50, 0:02:50]: Okay. [0:03:01, 0:03:02]: Yeah. [0:03:18, 0:03:20]: Gabriella, good evening to you. [0:03:34, 0:03:40]: Hey, Christy Tucker, good evening to you as well. Ladies and gentlemen, we're now on Facebook Live. [0:04:15, 0:04:15]: Yeah. [0:04:38, 0:04:40]: [290.3, 291.8]: [0:05:42, 0:05:49]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, I have uh six p.m. We're gonna get this uh council meeting started. This is the council meeting for Monday, October. [0:05:49, 0:05:52]: Eleven of twenty twenty one, which is Columbus Day, by the way. [0:05:53, 0:05:58]: So on that uh note, uh Ms. Gantt, invocation, please. [0:06:00, 0:06:02]: Let us buy our heads in prayer. [0:06:03, 0:06:15]: Father, we are so grateful to be living in a democracy where many play a part in making sure the needs and desires of this nation's citizens are heard and met. [0:06:15, 0:06:27]: As our leaders work together to find solutions to difficult problems, we ask that you guide them to speak respectfully and with humility to one another. [0:06:27, 0:06:30]: Гелден шоу Christ like love. [0:06:30, 0:06:32]: To those they interact with. [0:06:32, 0:06:36]: And be an advocate for their constituents and others. [0:06:37, 0:06:42]: These and other things we these and other blessings we pray in your name. Amen. [0:06:42, 0:06:43]: Amen. [0:06:43, 0:06:45]: Uh please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. [0:06:46, 0:06:47]: Okay. [0:06:47, 0:06:47]: [409.3, 419.3]: As allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic which stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:07:01, 0:07:03]: Madam Clerk, we'll call it. [0:07:05, 0:07:06]: Mayor Ford? [0:07:06, 0:07:07]: Present. [0:07:07, 0:07:09]: Mayor Pro Tem Alexander. [0:07:09, 0:07:10]: Present. [0:07:10, 0:07:11]: Councilwoman Barber. [0:07:12, 0:07:12]: Present. [0:07:12, 0:07:14]: Councilman Blount. [0:07:17, 0:07:21]: Let the record replay, Councilman Blount is not in attendance. Councilwoman Gantt. [0:07:22, 0:07:23]: Present. [0:07:23, 0:07:24]: Councilman Thomas. [0:07:24, 0:07:25]: Present. [0:07:25, 0:07:28]: Mayor Ford, you have a quorum. Thank you, Madam Clerk. I appreciate it. [0:07:29, 0:07:31]: Uh I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:07:34, 0:07:36]: Mayor Ford. Yes, ma'am. [0:07:36, 0:07:38]: I'd like to amend the agenda. [0:07:38, 0:07:38]: Okay. [0:07:39, 0:07:42]: I'd like to amend the agenda to add Mr. [0:07:42, 0:07:45]: Um Michael Harris our tax commissioner. [0:07:46, 0:07:52]: Okay. Is there a second to that? I second. Mr. Thomas, Mr. Thomas, second that. All in favor, please indicate. [0:07:54, 0:08:00]: Okay, okay, Mr. Blount, you're online. Did you you affirm? [0:08:03, 0:08:03]: Mr. Blount? [0:08:05, 0:08:10]: Mayor, I didn't even I didn't even hear what was what am I f um apprentice. [0:08:10, 0:08:15]: Okay, we're adding we're adding to the agenda a briefing by our tax collector, Mr. Harris. [0:08:17, 0:08:18]: Task Commissioner. [0:08:19, 0:08:30]: Tax gov tax commissioner, excuse me. It does collect taxes though, but commissioners is properly excuse, Mr. Harris. I know you hear me. I'm sorry, sir. All right. Ms. Blount, is that yeah, is that a yay or a nay? Or are you abstain? [0:08:31, 0:08:51]: Excuse me. Okay. So make it unanimous. Okay. Okay. Now, what I also like to mention to you is that for a we have public hearing, there's a rezoning case, RZ 2021-1. The actual applicant uh would want to defer this uh until next month. And now Ms. Johnson is online and believe the applicant's online as well, but they wanted [0:08:51, 0:08:56]: prefer that they want to have additional information or different commerce tip additional conversations. [0:08:56, 0:08:58]: uh say with the community before they come before the council. [0:08:59, 0:09:01]: Is that correct, Miss Johnson? [0:09:02, 0:09:19]: Yes, uh yes, sir, mayor, that is correct. The applicant would request a deferral to the November 8th council meeting so that they have time to talk more with the community and some other neighboring property owners regarding the rezoning and with staff as well. [0:09:19, 0:09:26]: Okay. So council, I need a motion uh to accept that uh removal for the time being until next month. [0:09:26, 0:09:29]: So move. Okay, Mr. Dalzan, so move is there a second. [0:09:29, 0:09:33]: A second. Okay. Mr. Thomas, thank you very much. So all in favor, please indicate. [0:09:35, 0:09:38]: Okay, fantastic. I think that is unanimous. And that I okay now. [0:09:39, 0:09:42]: On that case, that'll come off. Now I need a motion to accept the overall agenda, please. [0:09:44, 0:09:45]: A moved. Okay, they're a second. [0:09:47, 0:09:49]: Ms. Barber Second's that all in favor, please indicate. [0:09:51, 0:10:07]: Okay, that's unanimous as well. Okay. Thank you very much. On that note, uh motion to approve the minutes. You have the minutes from the August 16th council meeting and also the minutes from the August 31st council work session. Unless there are any changes or any motion to accept those minutes into the record. [0:10:08, 0:10:09]: Oh no. [0:10:10, 0:10:13]: Barber, so move, second. Is there a second? Second. [0:10:14, 0:10:18]: I got you, Miss Barbers. Second. Second. Mayor Pro Tem, I think, spoke up for a second. [0:10:18, 0:10:20]: Any discussion? Yeah. [0:10:20, 0:10:22]: Oh Ms. I got you, Mayor Pro Tem, you got the second, sir. [0:10:23, 0:10:25]: Okay. All favor, please indicate. [0:10:25, 0:10:26]: Of the motion. [0:10:27, 0:10:32]: Okay, I see a unanimous as well again. Okay, good deal. Thank you. Thank you very much. Okay. Um [0:10:33, 0:10:37]: Ms. Holliday, uh we have any public comments at all? There are no public comments, Mayor. [0:10:37, 0:10:38]: Okay. [0:10:38, 0:10:43]: Well, on that note, then we'll go on a ceremonial session. I have four proclamations, ladies and gentlemen. [0:10:43, 0:10:49]: And for uh individuals to receive these proclamations. So bear with us. Oh, by the way, I'm sorry, excuse me for a second. I just remember something. [0:10:50, 0:10:57]: Mr. Harris, we added you to the agenda. We're going to have you come on after the fourth proclamation. That's early enough in the program. We got a long agenda tonight. [0:10:58, 0:11:13]: So we'll have you come after that fourth proclamation and um and also Chief Tremors online if need be, if you need to speak or be addressing anything at this time as well. Okay, on that note, I will read the first proclamation, which actually deals with National Hispanic Heritage Month. [0:11:13, 0:11:16]: which is actually September 15th to October 15th. [0:11:17, 0:11:22]: Whereas in the earliest days of our Republic, Hispanic Americans have written crucial chapters in our nation's history. [0:11:23, 0:11:29]: including defense of our country, business ownership, teaching, and pioneer science excuse me, scientific. [0:11:29, 0:11:38]: And technological breakthroughs, and whereas Hispanic Americans represent an array of distinct and vibrant cultures which enrich communities in valuable ways. [0:11:38, 0:11:45]: Whereas Hispanic Americans embrace the promise of the United States that a better life should await anyone willing to work for it. [0:11:45, 0:11:49]: And the love of liberty and justice that this country promises to all. [0:11:49, 0:12:03]: Whereas the observation began as Hispanic Heritage Week in 1968 under President Lyndon Johnson. Twenty years later, President Ronald Reagan expanded the celebration cover a 30-day period between September 15th and October 15th. [0:12:03, 0:12:11]: September 15th is significant because of its anniversary of independence of Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, and Nicaragua. [0:12:11, 0:12:15]: Mexico and Chile celebrate their independence days on September 16th. [0:12:15, 0:12:17]: And September eighteenth, respectively. [0:12:17, 0:12:27]: The United States Congress has passed public law one hundred-four oh two as amended, which authorizes and requests that the president issue an annual proclamation designating September 15th. [0:12:27, 0:12:31]: through October 15th as National Hispanic Heritage Month in the United States. [0:12:31, 0:12:33]: Whereas this year's theme. [0:12:33, 0:12:36]: Uh Esperana, Esper Esperana. [0:12:36, 0:12:42]: If I pronounced it right, a celebration of Hispanic heritage and hope encourages us to reflect on the legacy of Hispanic people. [0:12:43, 0:12:48]: Who have influenced our nation's history and serve today as leaders in all aspects of our nation national life. [0:12:48, 0:12:53]: and from their Supreme Court and halls of Congress, boardrooms, and main streets across the United States of America. [0:12:54, 0:12:59]: Whereas the mayor and the city council of the city of Stockbridge wishes to show their support for the Hispanic community. [0:12:59, 0:13:05]: In the city throughout and throughout the United States by acknowledging National Hispanic Heritage Month in the city of Stockbridge. [0:13:05, 0:13:13]: Now, therefore, I, Anthony S. Ford, mayor of Stockbridge, Georgia, along with the council members Elton Alexander, Elanda Barber, John Blount, and Keisha Gantt. [0:13:13, 0:13:27]: And Founders of Thomas do hereby proclaim October 11th, 2021 as Hispanic Heritage Celebration Day and the Great Day of City Stockbridge, Georgia. And I signed this on the 11th of uh day of October, and along with Vanessa Holiday, a clerk. [0:13:28, 0:13:32]: And uh and to receive this, Gabrielo Torres di Amenda. [0:13:33, 0:13:36]: If I pronounce that right, uh ma'am, you have any comments or questions or [0:13:37, 0:13:38]: Or acknowledgments that you want to make. [0:13:38, 0:13:46]: And uh let me ask you this, could you please uh also the theme of this year, could you pronounce it properly so I can understand what the proper pronunciation is? [0:13:47, 0:13:56]: for uh what are what are what did you ask me to pronounce yeah it says it says the year's this year's theme Esperanza I guess it's called [0:13:57, 0:13:59]: Esperanza і mienzhop. [0:13:59, 0:14:16]: Okay, there you go. And Pro Temp Alexander and Ariel Shaw who have been amazing help um in our business at Bobo Bouti and just really I'm really honored for this um [0:14:17, 0:14:20]: uh proclamation that you have given our [0:14:20, 0:14:37]: company and um I'm really thankful. Thank you so much for the city of Stockbridge that has helped our business grow through difficult times uh like COVID and uh trying to get back like we were before COVID. But thank you so much for this. It's an honor for to me. [0:14:37, 0:14:51]: You're welcome. And what I need to do is sometime when within the next week or two, hopefully sooner than later, I'll make a point to have the not only the clerk put this in a frame, but make a point to but deliver this to you in person so you can have this in framed, okay? [0:14:51, 0:15:00]: Oh, that sounds great. Sounds lovely. Thank you. No problem. Congratulations. Absolutely. Absolutely. You can stay, stay as long as you like, by the way, as well. Okay. [0:15:00, 0:15:20]: All right. Um next I have now is a proclamation dealing with the domestic violence awareness month, which is October. And I'll make a point to sometime at hopefully I remember this on Thursday. Screw me back up in the end of the month, which will be our uh work session on Tuesday. I'll make sure I wear purple versus when I'm trying to have on pink, but I'll have to wear purple uh the next meeting, okay? [0:15:20, 0:15:20]: Yeah. [0:15:20, 0:15:21]: Now [0:15:21, 0:15:25]: Whereas far far too long, domestic violence was considered a family issue. [0:15:26, 0:15:37]: And was left for families to address in private. Today we recognize the important roles of public and private sectors, nonprofit organizations, communities, and individuals in helping to prevent and address domestic violence. [0:15:37, 0:15:40]: And create a culture that refuses to tolerate abuse. [0:15:41, 0:15:43]: Whereas during National Domestic Violence Awareness Month. [0:15:44, 0:15:47]: There is an opportunity to deepen our understanding of these issues. [0:15:47, 0:15:56]: share resources and most importantly, support survivors. It takes courage for the survivor of sexual assault or domestic violence to share the story with anyone. [0:15:57, 0:16:01]: Never underestimate the power to affect the course of a survivor's healing journey. [0:16:02, 0:16:07]: Whereas during COVID nineteen pandemic domestic violence has become a pandemic within a pandemic. [0:16:07, 0:16:11]: With many victims facing the added pressures of increased economic insecurity. [0:16:12, 0:16:29]: increased time in isolation with their abusers and limited contact with their support networks. This has made it even more difficult for victims to assess the life-saving services and support they need to streeten our to strengthen our response to domestic violence in all forms and gender-based violence. [0:16:30, 0:16:45]: My American Rescue Plan allocated an additional$450 million to increase support for domestic violence and sexual assault services providers and to further assist survivors in the short and long-term transition away from the abusers. [0:16:45, 0:16:50]: And whereas this month we recommit to standing with survivors of domestic violence. [0:16:50, 0:17:10]: And to do and to doing our utmost to extend hope and healing to all we need, all who need it, excuse me. If you or someone you know needs assistance, we encourage you to reach out to the National Domestic Violence Hotline by calling 1-800-799-SAFE. Once again, 1-800-799-SaVICE. [0:17:10, 0:17:11]: seven nine nine save. [0:17:12, 0:17:21]: Or visiting www.thehotline.org. Now, therefore, I, Anthony S. Ward, by virtual authority vested in me as a mayor of city of Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:17:21, 0:17:41]: And on behalf of Councilmembers Elton, Alexander, Yolanda Barber, John Blount, Lakeese Gantt and Afonso Thomas, to hereby proclaim October 2021 as National Domestic Violence Awareness Month. We call on all Americans to speak out against domestic violence and support local efforts to assist victims of these crimes in finding the [0:17:41, 0:17:42]: help and healing they need. [0:17:43, 0:17:53]: A witness whereof I have here here unto set my hand on the eleventh day of October, this year of our Lord of 2021. And I assign this along with our um [0:17:54, 0:17:55]: Clerk Vanessa Holliday. [0:17:55, 0:18:05]: Okay. And Christy Tucker, Sims, ma'am, please comments that you have in reference to re us receiving giving this a proclamation to you. [0:18:05, 0:18:10]: First of all, thank you, Mayor Ford. Thank you, Councilman Alexander. Um [0:18:10, 0:18:30]: all of the council members, constituents, and friends for this honor, for this proclamation. Um, being acknowledged as as both a survivor and an advocate is sometimes the fuel that we need to keep going. So I don't take this lightly. It isn't my honor and my pleasure to accept this on behalf of my team, um, my supporters and the Christie [0:18:30, 0:18:50]: Sims Foundation. Thank you so much to the city of Starkbridge for your continued support, for your continued um support of what we do. Thank you so much. More than welcome once again. Congratulations. Once again, uh we'll coordinate with you, uh working through the clerk there to have seven appointment to also have this frame and present this to you in person. Okay. Thank you. Thank you so much. [0:18:50, 0:18:52]: Or and more work to say is not. [0:18:53, 0:19:06]: Thank you. I'll I'll be here a few more minutes. I need to have another meeting. I need to sign out in about about 15 minutes. Okay. Good deal. So be it. Thank you. The next proclamation is uh breast cancer awareness month for October. And that's why I have on pink tonight. [0:19:07, 0:19:11]: Once again, I need uh I obviously mentioned this publicly, I need to wear purple next time we get together. Okay. [0:19:12, 0:19:12]: Uh so [0:19:13, 0:19:14]: Whereas every year two [0:19:15, 0:19:19]: Many Americans are touched by the pain and hardship caused by breast cancer. [0:19:19, 0:19:27]: A disease that among women is not only one of the most common cancers, but also one of the leading causes of a cancer-related death. [0:19:27, 0:19:36]: And whereas during National Breast Cancer Awareness Month, we honor all those who lost their lives to breast cancer and we recognize the courageous survivors who are still fighting it. [0:19:37, 0:19:57]: Whereas for these individuals and for their loved ones who give their unwavering support during the most trying times, we recommit ourselves to the essential and necessary work for forging a future free from cancer in all its forms. And whereas hundreds and thousands of Americans will be diagnosed with breast cancer this year, the tens of thousands will lose their [0:19:57, 0:20:17]: Battle with the disease. Among both women and men can't have breast cancer, women are of higher risk. And whereas we encourage all women to find out if they are have increased risk and learn more about recommended screenings by speaking with their health care providers and by visiting www.cancer.gov/slash breast. Early detection and treatment. [0:20:17, 0:20:37]: Treatment can save lives. Now, therefore, I, Anthony S. Ford, by virtue of authority, vesting me as a mayor of city of Stockbridge, Georgia. And on behalf of Council Members Elton Alexander, Yolanda Barber, John Blount, Makisha Gantt, and Afonso Thomas, to hereby proclaim October 2021 as a National Breast Cancer Awareness Month in the great city of Stockbridge, Georgia. We encourage citizens. [0:20:36, 0:20:48]: government agencies, businesses, nonprofit organizations, and all the all other interested groups to join in activities that will increase awareness of what Americans can do to prevent breast cancer and where witness whereof. [0:20:48, 0:20:52]: I have hereunto set my hand eleventh day of October, the year of our Lord. [0:20:52, 0:20:53]: Uh twenty [0:20:54, 0:21:07]: uh thousand twenty one. Uh signed this along with our uh clerk Vanessa holiday and uh Mildred Smelts, ma'am, we honor you and give you this to you as well. You have any comments, ma'am, at all and that you want to make it this time. [0:21:09, 0:21:10]: Thank you, Mayor, for [0:21:12, 0:21:19]: I wanna really thank the city of Stockbridge for standing with the courageous men and women. [0:21:19, 0:21:22]: Ув'ян діанос від брест канцер. [0:21:22, 0:21:25]: And honor those who have lost their lives. [0:21:26, 0:21:34]: Thank you so much, the city of Stockbridge, for standing with us. I'm a three-time breast cancer survivor. [0:21:35, 0:21:48]: And I really do appreciate and accept this proclamation on behalf of all of those who are still suffering and those who have lost their lives. Thank you, City of Stockbridge. [0:21:48, 0:22:01]: You're more than welcome. Thank you very much. Once again, I will coordinate along with the clerk to um make a meeting so I can present this to you in a frame uh sometime here shortly. Okay. And you once again, you're more than welcome to stay as long as you like. [0:22:01, 0:22:10]: All right. And for the fourth proclamation, and they're all equal proclamations. So I'm Michelle I'm sorry you're number four tonight, but someone had me four. Okay. [0:22:11, 0:22:13]: National Women's Small Business Month. [0:22:14, 0:22:18]: Whereas National Women's Small Business Month takes place each year during the month of October. [0:22:19, 0:22:28]: This is a time to recognize a marriage of activities of our country's female entrepreneurs and the positive impact they are making on jobs and the economy. [0:22:29, 0:22:49]: Whereas in October, Natural Women's Small Business Month highlights the benefits and industry women bring to communities when they own a small business. With over 11 million and growing women owning small businesses in the United States, there's plenty of opportunities to get involved. And whereas throughout the month, organizations, businesses, and aspiring entrepreneurs, [0:22:49, 0:23:08]: Share resources and advice that support women-owned businesses. Like any small business, the benefits to the community are enormous. Locally owned small businesses bring revenue to communities. Small companies are more likely to support local organizations, schools, and projects. They also provide a tremendous number of jobs, keeping local economies going and growing. [0:23:09, 0:23:29]: Whereas when you include women in small business businesses factor, you increase business diversity. When women are see other women still succeeding, they are motivated to secede. Now, therefore, I, Anthony S. Ford, Mayor City Stockbridge, Georgia, along with council members Elton Alexander, Ilana Barber, John Blount, Lakeese Gannon and Alfonso Thomas to hereby proclaim October. [0:23:29, 0:23:47]: as National Women's Small Business Month, the great city of Stockbridge, Georgia, and witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand on the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia on the 11th day of October of the year our Lord 2021. And I assigned this along with our click Vanessa Holiday. Ms. Shaw, please. Thank you. Congratulations. [0:23:48, 0:24:08]: Thank you. Um, and I, Ariel Shaw, president and founder of Southern Crescent Women in Business, accept this proclamation recognizing October as National Women's Small Business Month. There are between nine point nine million and thirteen million women owned businesses in the United States of America with an impact of one four. [0:24:08, 0:24:12]: point eight trillion dollars to the US economy. [0:24:12, 0:24:32]: While women-owned businesses are starting at the fastest rate, there is so much more work to do as it relates to funding women-owned businesses. We recognize that without proper funding and the ability to grow our workforce, scaling our businesses becomes much more difficult. Thank you, Mayor Anthony Ford, and all countries. [0:24:32, 0:24:41]: Council for honoring and recognizing women-owned businesses in the city of Stockbridge, in the Southern Crescent, and nationwide. [0:24:41, 0:24:42]: Thank you. [0:24:43, 0:24:57]: Thank you. Thank you very much. My same thing with you, ma'am. I will work with the clerk to uh meet with you sometime and give you a frame uh proclamation here, here within the next week or so. Okay. And you also are warned and welcome to stay as long as you like. [0:24:57, 0:24:58]: Thank you. [0:24:58, 0:25:00]: And then [0:25:00, 0:25:01]: Yes, sir. [0:25:01, 0:25:05]: Yeah, if you would, I like to take the temperature of the council. [0:25:05, 0:25:08]: These proclamations are so powerful. [0:25:08, 0:25:10]: Every single month. [0:25:10, 0:25:11]: We read them. [0:25:12, 0:25:16]: I would like for our social media department to air. [0:25:16, 0:25:36]: These proclamations that you read on our social media every single month. So these individuals can just not get recognition here that they will be shared on our social media page uh continually, just getting the attention that they need, not with the rest of the meeting, but just by the [0:25:36, 0:25:45]: themselves every single month. Because we have so many outstanding citizens that we need to recognize. I just like you would be reading this portion. [0:25:45, 0:25:54]: So where you start reading the proclamations from beginning to end with air on our social media site as a separate clip every month going forward. [0:25:55, 0:26:10]: All right, we'll take that on advisement without a doubt. I'm gonna talk to the public uh information officer about that as well. We look forward to that recommendation falling through. On that note, uh all the proclamations are read for this evening and we'll move on. And the next item would be Mr. Harris, our tax commissioner. [0:26:11, 0:26:13]: Not collector, but commissioner. [0:26:13, 0:26:19]: Mr. Harris, please. Good evening. Thank you, Mayor. Good evening, Mayor and Council. [0:26:21, 0:26:31]: I was contacted by your treasurer, Mr. Wiggins, um about a week or so ago and about the potential tax implication should the city decide to. [0:26:32, 0:26:41]: um forego the current county police services and begin their own police department utilizing a three mil city tax. [0:26:42, 0:27:02]: In speaking with Mr. Wiggins, there's two key pieces of information he was looking for at the time. The estimated amount of taxes that will be generated from the implementation of three mills by the city, and also what the impact could have on the on a residential property. Um, I've provided him with that. Um [0:27:02, 0:27:14]: last week, but I think you know, at per the request of the council has to kind of come up and give a little bit more of an explanation and addressing the questions that you may have and that I'm at I'm able to answer at this time. [0:27:15, 0:27:18]: So just as a quick overview. [0:27:19, 0:27:39]: And again, these numbers are estimates because they're based on the current digest that was just recently approved by the state. But based on that, and in my understanding of the approach that the city's taking, the you know, on the current tax bill right now, there is a mill of 1.824 mils that [0:27:39, 0:27:43]: is in place for county police services. [0:27:44, 0:27:55]: Should the city determine and decide to forego the county services, that 1.824 mil would go away and would subsequently be replaced by a three mil city tax. [0:27:56, 0:28:00]: Now based on again, based on last year's digest, that [0:28:01, 0:28:10]: Three mil would generate approximately three million one hundred and seventy-one dollars in um levy taxes for the year. [0:28:11, 0:28:31]: Taking that number and that estimate, um, I wanted to go back through and just kind of again, the request was for what the impact on a residential property would be. So looking at a home valued at um 225,000. And the reason why I use the 225,000 is because based on the state, that is the average mean um value of a home. [0:28:31, 0:28:36]: in Henry County. It's their number. They they provide that every on an annual basis. [0:28:36, 0:28:42]: Um based on that and again taking a couple criteria points in in into play because again it would get too [0:28:42, 0:28:46]: confusion if we if we put everything in in in in into motion. [0:28:47, 0:28:52]: But looked at this at again a fair market value at two hundred and twenty-five thousand dollars. [0:28:52, 0:29:03]: No homestead on the property because again, not knowing the level of homesteading, I want to make sure we're doing a comparison of apples and apples. So no homestead on the property, no exemptions that's age or veterans. Um [0:29:05, 0:29:25]: What that would yield would be a um an increase of roughly$105.84 for the for that person's annual taxes. Again, obviously if you uh factor in things like homestead and and potential exemptions, that's gonna have a um a bit another [0:29:25, 0:29:30]: impact on that, but just trying to do a straight comparison and give everyone an idea of what that number can look like. [0:29:31, 0:29:51]: That's where it would be. Um the turn the current millage rate is 38.030. That's overall, that's including the school, which again, I just want to emphasize the school millage represents roughly 58 to 60 percent of the of the taxes that are paid. And that remainder um is [0:29:51, 0:29:54]: county county taxes that come in, county and water authority taxes. [0:29:55, 0:30:03]: Um if the city were to again forego the county police services that would eliminate the 1.824 mil. [0:30:04, 0:30:20]: That would add to 3.0 mil. And so the new millage rate in the city of Stockbridge would then be 39.206. And again, we estimate that would yield approximately an increase of$105.84. [0:30:21, 0:30:34]: So again, like I said, these were the first two pieces of information that I was asked to kind of look into and want to just kind of provide a just a high level overview of what those preliminary numbers look like. As I know there's been a lot of conversation amongst the mayor and council there. [0:30:35, 0:30:41]: So Mr Mr. Harris, that's$105.84 per household per year. Is that correct? [0:30:41, 0:30:58]: That's correct. Again, based on a home valued at 225,000 with no a with no homestead or no exemptions in place. So if the home was only 150,000, it would be less than$105, I would imagine. That's correct. Okay. Thank you very much. Uh questions, council. [0:30:59, 0:31:00]: Ms. Barber, go ahead. [0:31:01, 0:31:05]: I do. Thank you, Mr. Harris. Um so [0:31:06, 0:31:10]: This thirty-one point two oh six that includes [0:31:10, 0:31:12]: All of the taxes. [0:31:12, 0:31:14]: Including school [0:31:15, 0:31:21]: Um public safety and everything else that the county provides for us. Is that correct? Where did he go? [0:31:22, 0:31:26]: He's he's here. He's still here. Yeah, I'm right here. Yeah. Oh, okay. I see you now. You go anywhere. [0:31:27, 0:31:27]: Not now. So [0:31:28, 0:31:31]: I'm sorry, you're saying so your question is [0:31:31, 0:31:34]: The thirty one point one seven one milyen. [0:31:35, 0:31:37]: No, you said thirty-nine point two oh six. [0:31:38, 0:31:58]: 39.206 is simply the millage rate. That would be the new rate for the um for the for the county. Right now, and that that means that includes the 20 mills that comes from the school board, three plus mills for the school board, um, school bond, two mills from the water authority, and then your remainder amount. [0:31:58, 0:32:07]: from the uh for county services. Okay, one follow-up question. Yes. So we only want to um look at specifically [0:32:07, 0:32:10]: Вот виблік safety. [0:32:10, 0:32:19]: Correct. Can you once again tell me out of that 39.206, how much of that is for police services? [0:32:20, 0:32:28]: Well, the thirty-nine point two oh six would be the new rate should the council um decide to [0:32:29, 0:32:49]: Forego the county services, which would remove again what you're paying right now and what you played last year in police services equated to roughly$1.928 million. Okay. And that was based on the 1.824 millage rate. Should the county decide to forego the county services, [0:32:49, 0:32:51]: That one point eight two four would go away. [0:32:51, 0:32:57]: And it would subsequently be replaced by the three mils, which would generate again, approximately 3.1 million. [0:32:57, 0:33:00]: Gotcha. Thank you very much. You're welcome. [0:33:00, 0:33:02]: Okay, Miss Ken, go ahead, please. [0:33:02, 0:33:09]: Thank you. Um, Mr. Harris, uh you said that it's gonna be three mils, not three point five. Is that what you're estimating? [0:33:09, 0:33:19]: Yeah, that now's uh that's based on the number that was provided to me. And we could certainly run scenarios, different scenarios if you'd like, but this is the one that Mr. Wiggins provided for me at the time. So we just ran it based on that. [0:33:20, 0:33:29]: And if the three males, what does the city of McDonough, what is their millage rate for um fi for um public safety? [0:33:30, 0:33:35]: Um I don't know specifically for public safety. They don't so they so same thing, they don't have [0:33:35, 0:33:46]: They don't the 1.824 does not apply is not apply to City of McDonald residents be because they have their own police force. They do have so it'd be very similar. [0:33:46, 0:33:57]: This setup that you're proposing would be very similar to the setup in McDonough, where they do not have the 1.824, but they do have a city millage of roughly 3.6. [0:33:58, 0:34:00]: And that includes fire, correct? [0:34:00, 0:34:02]: Pardon? That includes fire. [0:34:02, 0:34:13]: Yeah, they also have their own fire services as well. So with a three with their millage rate, right at like a three point uh three point six, I was I thought ours is gonna be around three point five roughly. [0:34:14, 0:34:18]: Theirs includes fire and they had a rollback at 1.824. [0:34:19, 0:34:19]: Right. [0:34:20, 0:34:22]: Okay. And are you aware that [0:34:23, 0:34:25]: Um our financial advisor. [0:34:25, 0:34:34]: As well as our city manager and our treasurer had given us a financial statement. And I think they had in that statement, they talked about when they discussed with you. [0:34:34, 0:34:35]: That [0:34:36, 0:34:41]: They also stated we would have to do a three percent increase every year thereafter. [0:34:42, 0:34:57]: No, I hadn't heard that. Um I I'd read some of the reports in reference to the the report from the financial advisor, but I hadn't heard any any specifics in reference to um the long the on the ongoing implications of the cost, what the cost would be. [0:34:57, 0:35:05]: I think on June 7 at 2021 at 717 13 PM Eastern Standard Time. [0:35:05, 0:35:18]: Our um city manager did give us a financial projection about a state tax that we would I mean a city tax that we would have to have. And he also attached a financial document breaking down. So I I do want Mayor Council to be aware that. [0:35:19, 0:35:24]: Um the financial statement actually states that we will have a three percent increase every year. [0:35:24, 0:35:29]: And it also shows our fund balance going down by half in 2024. [0:35:30, 0:35:31]: So um [0:35:32, 0:35:35]: I appreciate you, Mr. Harris, for giving us that information. [0:35:35, 0:35:40]: I'm glad to see you by the way. Good to see y'all as well. Michelle. Yeah. Good to see you. [0:35:40, 0:35:41]: Um [0:35:41, 0:35:50]: And um thank you so much for updating us with that. Um I I really appreciate that. Um looking here at the 1.824 rollback. [0:35:51, 0:35:57]: And if that's the same, do does uh McDonna get a higher rollback than we do because they have fire? [0:35:58, 0:35:59]: Yeah. [0:36:00, 0:36:02]: I'd have to go back and look at uh exactly what the what [0:36:03, 0:36:03]: Yeah, yeah. [0:36:04, 0:36:05]: Because there's a [0:36:05, 0:36:09]: There's a separate agreement in place in reference to their fire because um [0:36:10, 0:36:25]: And I'm not sure how it's worked out between the county and the city. But again, we have some supplemental. Right. So there is a mill um associated for fire that the majority of the cities also have in place, which is 1.105, I believe it is. [0:36:25, 0:36:26]: Mm-hmm. [0:36:26, 0:36:32]: Um now again that would stay in place. So you'd have again, um last year we just we [0:36:32, 0:36:39]: The county opted to move forward with a break. They kind of took the the millage rate. The mill rate has not the county mill rate has not gone up. [0:36:40, 0:36:41]: But they simply [0:36:41, 0:36:51]: They simply broke it down to make it a little bit easier for people to understand and be able to see. So they broke down some select services, those being police at 1.824. [0:36:51, 0:37:05]: Um fire at 1.0 1.105, recreation at 0.685, and then um other county services for unincorporated areas at point three one three, I believe it is. [0:37:06, 0:37:24]: Thank you. So this financial projection that I got in June 3rd, 2021, and the other date that they sent the email, it actually states that I know you did yours off of three point three mils, but Mr. Knighton, as well as Ed Wall, our financial advisor, and rent um John Wiggins, our treasurer. [0:37:24, 0:37:44]: Actually states that the city's extra millage rate will be 3.5 mils. There will be a property tax will increase by 3% each year. Court revenues are projected at$750,000 per year. License and permits, charges for services to intergovernment and other revenues will remain constant and if [0:37:44, 0:38:04]: If no increases, fine and forfeitures will be restored prior to COVID, and interest earnings are low due to low interest rates, assumes the rates of investment of cash at 0.05%. And therefore, it goes on to show us from 2019 what our revenues. [0:38:04, 0:38:12]: Are and what our reserves are from our fund balance of 18 mil all the way down to 2027. [0:38:12, 0:38:14]: I mean twenty twenty four. [0:38:15, 0:38:16]: Of our loss. [0:38:17, 0:38:37]: profits there it looks like we would then have about in right now we have 20 well in 2018 we had about 26 months worth of reserves by 2024 we'll have um 11.4 and each year it goes down down down with the three percent increase every year so I [0:38:37, 0:38:41]: I I appreciate you giving us that tax information. [0:38:41, 0:38:48]: But this says 3.5 as well. And I'm sure that doesn't make a break us more than$20,$10 if that. [0:38:49, 0:38:53]: But I'm concerned about that three percent increase without our citizens having the input first. [0:38:54, 0:38:58]: All right, Ms. Thank you, Ms. Gamp. Appreciate that. Um Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. [0:38:59, 0:39:08]: Thank you, Mayor. And uh Ms. Harris, I I thank you for coming and sharing this information. Um, I got a couple of questions, if I may. [0:39:09, 0:39:13]: Um the scenario that was just presented. [0:39:13, 0:39:15]: Uh it's based on [0:39:16, 0:39:19]: uh a po a police budget [0:39:19, 0:39:22]: A five point five mil. [0:39:23, 0:39:26]: a budget just for the um police department. [0:39:27, 0:39:30]: We control that. We control. [0:39:30, 0:39:31]: The budget. [0:39:31, 0:39:33]: for the police department. So [0:39:34, 0:39:38]: Uh would you say that is a a true fact and then therefore [0:39:38, 0:39:42]: The calculation is is a little different. Would you agree with that? [0:39:42, 0:39:44]: Well, what I'll say is [0:39:45, 0:39:56]: Again, typically jurisdictions, whether it's county or municipalities, they'll make a determination on what they what they want their mill rate to be based on their budget. First you establish your budget. [0:39:56, 0:39:57]: Um and then [0:39:58, 0:40:18]: working with you through your job digest, your mill rate will determine how much you need to generate and levy taxes in order to meet those budgetary um require budgetary needs. So typically your budget is established first and then from there you establish your mill rate to generate the the amount of um levy taxes in order to meet [0:40:18, 0:40:20]: meet meet your your expense needs. [0:40:20, 0:40:24]: And and and also the the number the [0:40:25, 0:40:25]: Uh [0:40:26, 0:40:29]: The the size of the police department. [0:40:29, 0:40:31]: Also um [0:40:31, 0:40:35]: determines um that calculation as well. Is that correct? [0:40:37, 0:40:45]: Yeah yeah, I mean as far as the specific and what goes into determining how you know the the the budget for the police station. [0:40:45, 0:40:46]: Um [0:40:46, 0:40:47]: Um [0:40:48, 0:40:57]: I'm not prepared to address that at all. I mean, I was just simply looking at it from a from a taxation standpoint. I you know, I think at the end of the day, and and my conversation with Mr. Wiggins were simply [0:40:57, 0:40:58]: Um [0:40:58, 0:41:04]: What number do you want to use as a as a plug for now? Again, this was a couple weeks ago. So if that number, if that proposed millage has changed. [0:41:04, 0:41:13]: Yeah, we could certainly go back and rerun the numbers, but it would typically be based on the establishment of the budget first and then you work and back your way into the um into your military. [0:41:14, 0:41:22]: Okay, I'm I'm gonna apologize for hypotheticals. That's okay. That's okay. Well, let me ask you this. Um [0:41:22, 0:41:25]: When it comes to um [0:41:25, 0:41:31]: seniors and exemption. So I know the figures that you just gave. [0:41:31, 0:41:34]: Did not include any exemptions. [0:41:34, 0:41:37]: So just from your [0:41:38, 0:41:40]: uh professional [0:41:40, 0:41:41]: Um [0:41:41, 0:41:45]: knowledge, if you will, about exemptions. [0:41:45, 0:41:47]: Would you say um [0:41:48, 0:41:50]: Мос о [0:41:51, 0:41:52]: Homeowners. [0:41:54, 0:41:55]: A mortgage on us. [0:41:55, 0:41:56]: There are some [0:41:57, 0:42:05]: exemption and and i'm i'm asking that to lead into for for the seniors and i know i i read also where [0:42:05, 0:42:08]: Uh seniors do have this exemption. [0:42:08, 0:42:10]: And and one fact being that [0:42:11, 0:42:12]: Um [0:42:12, 0:42:17]: They are excluded because uh they do not have. [0:42:17, 0:42:22]: uh school age children uh in in the system [0:42:22, 0:42:26]: So for the most part, uh I and I guess this is a question. [0:42:26, 0:42:28]: That without a doubt, uh, seniors. [0:42:29, 0:42:31]: We'll have some type of [0:42:32, 0:42:34]: of exemption and in in your opinion [0:42:35, 0:42:43]: Uh most property owners, or there's some type of exemption uh that goes along uh with with with their mortgage. [0:42:45, 0:43:05]: Yeah, for the majority of them. And we're always we're constantly working to make sure we get the word out to help educate our residents to make sure that they're realizing and utilizing all the available exemptions. The way the school board has it, it is there's a stepped approach where it begins at age 62, um, that exemption increases at 65. [0:43:05, 0:43:11]: five increases again at 68 and at age 70 they're no longer paying any any school taxes. [0:43:11, 0:43:13]: Now if the count if the city [0:43:14, 0:43:18]: In the it in the incorporation of their military also wants to include [0:43:19, 0:43:21]: And exemption, that would be a separate step. [0:43:21, 0:43:41]: Um that because you know those exemptions would apply to those to the school and the county taxes. Um if you want to do an exemption within this for the for specifically for the city tax, then that'd be have to be this determination made by the um by the city directly. But right now, those exemptions that are in play, those are in place for the um school. [0:43:41, 0:43:50]: school taxes and the um county taxes. So with the exception of veterans exception of veterans that that that can that also applies to the cities as well. [0:43:50, 0:43:55]: Okay, Mayor, last question. Yes, sir. So considering um [0:43:55, 0:43:59]: some type of exemption or some then [0:43:59, 0:44:01]: That calculation [0:44:01, 0:44:03]: changes and then I would imagine [0:44:03, 0:44:05]: Uh it decreases. [0:44:06, 0:44:07]: Is that correct? [0:44:08, 0:44:16]: Yeah, again, you know, incorporating exemptions is certainly going to have an impact on on individual on individual um tax bills. [0:44:17, 0:44:32]: The example I gave was again to try to run through every single scenario would be relatively almost impossible. So I want to just kind of give one word just kind of gave you know a higher case scenario where it's ex it's it's it's not taking any exemptions into okay into account. So [0:44:32, 0:44:33]: Um [0:44:34, 0:44:43]: Typically it would likely be, you know, your tax burden was like would be lightly slightly less because there are going to be some exemptions on your county and your and your um [0:44:44, 0:44:46]: and your school taxes, but that amount. [0:44:47, 0:44:52]: based on that difference from paying 1.82 mils to now paying three mils. [0:44:52, 0:45:03]: that would be fairly consistent at that one point oh one one point oh five because again there's not going to be any real exemptions applied to that for city taxes unless that's the city's choice. [0:45:03, 0:45:07]: With the exception of veterans, veterans apply across the board. [0:45:07, 0:45:13]: All right. Thank you, sir. Uh Mayor, I yield back. No problem. Thank you very much. Councilwoman Barber, you had your hand up next. [0:45:15, 0:45:24]: Wanted to ask um Mr. Harris. So as our tax base or our tax digests increase, um, we should expect that the [0:45:24, 0:45:28]: Millage rate or the amount that each home [0:45:28, 0:45:31]: Owner would be responsible for will decrease. [0:45:32, 0:45:33]: Based on [0:45:33, 0:45:40]: the estimate of a fair market value of a home with$225,000, correct? [0:45:41, 0:45:47]: Yeah, so I I can tell you what what's been happening over the last several years. Um [0:45:47, 0:45:50]: from a county's perspective while the [0:45:50, 0:45:53]: um values property values have increased. [0:45:54, 0:45:55]: Um [0:45:55, 0:45:58]: The tax rate has remained the same. [0:45:59, 0:46:07]: You know, the determination of how taxes are are calculated is simply the value or assessed value, which is forty percent of the fair market value. [0:46:07, 0:46:08]: Times that rate. [0:46:09, 0:46:11]: So with the rate remaining fixed. [0:46:11, 0:46:18]: The only reason why people have seen an increase in their tax bills because obviously the the value has gone up and increased. So you can [0:46:20, 0:46:40]: You can continue but so you can continue to, you know, as your as your value goes up, if that amount you want to re continue to keep that same tax rate, you certainly can and roll back that that that additional that it would generate. Um, and say, you know, you're not going to imply that and impose that and keep it at that same or roll back your. [0:46:40, 0:46:53]: your your millage rate, um again, that'd be the determination that the that the that the city can make. Okay. One follow-up question. So as more residents um come into the city. [0:46:53, 0:47:03]: Um what should they ex well, what should we expect as far as our millage rate? Um would that decrease? [0:47:04, 0:47:10]: based on the number of resident or number of homeowners and the values of their home. [0:47:11, 0:47:16]: Yes. So what it's tied to is your your digest, which which [0:47:16, 0:47:26]: speaks to um you know the value of all the property there in stockbridge. So as that value increases based on more people moving in. [0:47:27, 0:47:31]: The higher the value, if you want to keep one fixed number. [0:47:31, 0:47:51]: Okay. If that value increases, you you have the option of being able to reduce that rate in order to stay at that one fixed number. Or you keep the rate the same as your value increases, what it generates increases as well. So you can adjust that again. That's the millage rate itself is can be determined and set by the governing body. [0:47:51, 0:47:56]: In this case the city of Stockbridge. I guess what I'm asking about is the more [0:47:57, 0:47:57]: Um [0:47:59, 0:48:04]: The more businesses and more residents that enter into the city. [0:48:05, 0:48:09]: then our taxes or the millage rate should [0:48:09, 0:48:10]: decrease [0:48:11, 0:48:12]: Because you have a larger [0:48:13, 0:48:17]: Um, population of residents and businesses who are sharing in the cost. [0:48:18, 0:48:19]: Oh [0:48:20, 0:48:22]: The taxes. Correct. [0:48:23, 0:48:24]: That's correct. Like I said. [0:48:25, 0:48:29]: The more businesses and the more homes that come into a jurisdiction. [0:48:30, 0:48:36]: the greater the value of the property is in that jurisdiction. So your your digest increases. [0:48:36, 0:48:45]: Okay. If you have a fixed number of well, we need this from again, like I said, you start with your budget number. If you're if that budget number remains fixed, [0:48:45, 0:49:05]: then then perhaps you can roll back because your value is going to be your value is going to be increased. So if your rate stays the same and your value increases, the amount of taxes levied will increase. If your value increases and you want to stay at that fixed number, then yes, you can adjust [0:49:05, 0:49:10]: Thus you can reduce your rate that remain at that same fixed number. That's an option. [0:49:12, 0:49:13]: Thank you. [0:49:13, 0:49:15]: Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. [0:49:17, 0:49:19]: Thank you, Mayor. Um [0:49:19, 0:49:28]: Let me first of all before I uh Mr. Mr. Harris, thanks for coming. First of all, my pleasure. Just let me say this. Um the conversation being had now. [0:49:29, 0:49:31]: By the elective body should have been had. [0:49:31, 0:49:34]: uh months ago prior to getting to this point. [0:49:35, 0:49:38]: Let me let me just put something that are facts in place. [0:49:39, 0:49:49]: When you talk about an increase in our budget for a police department sustainability around one five point eight uh five five point eight million dollars, that's on the feasibility study. [0:49:50, 0:49:53]: When you look at now our financial advisor has already told us. [0:49:54, 0:49:57]: We're looking at one point something mil a million dollars. [0:49:57, 0:50:04]: on the twenty-five million dollars that's already been bonded. So you're already now over six, almost seven million dollars. [0:50:05, 0:50:09]: And when we talk about the decreases from the increases on projects. [0:50:10, 0:50:12]: We're not even calculating that. [0:50:13, 0:50:18]: We' we're we're talking millist rate and then we gotta talk about our budget. [0:50:19, 0:50:31]: How do you surplus a budget? Because you just told us it would bring in about$3 million. Now we're almost at seven. So the millage rate we're talking about now won't even cover the excess on that. [0:50:32, 0:50:52]: Let's get that clear. Now let's talk about services. Because we get a rollback from the county, that doesn't mean we still don't have to put in a service delivery SDS agreement with the county for extra service. We don't have a jail nor any detention centers or any other extra services that police provide. So there still has to be an agreement in place. [0:50:52, 0:51:01]: So services may not be taxed with a role because we get a rollback, but those increases in our budget would have to be put in place to pay for those services. [0:51:01, 0:51:07]: We're talking we're talking millions beyond taxes that's gonna decrease our budget. [0:51:08, 0:51:28]: Not so much see, we're getting so fixated on how much the tax is going to be because the tax rate that we're talking about is not going to cover the increase in the budget that's been put in place. And so when we talk about that three mil, that's not going to cover seven point or seven to eight million dollar increase in the budget. It's not going [0:51:28, 0:51:46]: Going to do that. And so when we sit here as elected, that's the elected body and we keep talking about this three million. Anytime you increase in houses, you increase in services. Anytime you increase in services, you decrease in budget, unless you have those bins that come in. [0:51:47, 0:51:51]: But the the bottom line, we're not just talking about taxes. [0:51:52, 0:52:12]: We have to talk about the increased budget. What are we going to do to cover that budget? And that has yet to be discussed. So we can talk apples and apples and uh apples, but we're talking oranges when it comes to the whole budget. We do not have a plan in place as a city of Stockbridge to cover$8 million increase in our budget. [0:52:12, 0:52:13]: That's a fact. [0:52:15, 0:52:17]: All right, uh Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. [0:52:17, 0:52:21]: Uh let's let's see. This is what happens when you [0:52:21, 0:52:24]: Go through these hypothetical situations. [0:52:25, 0:52:35]: The real fact of the matter is nobody is going to know what a potential tax would be until the shief sits down and puts pencil to paper. [0:52:35, 0:52:38]: And tells us what the department is gonna look like. [0:52:39, 0:52:50]: How many officers is he going to require? And the total package. The exact reason that we hired the police chief was so he could come out and he could put the police department plan together. [0:52:51, 0:52:54]: The feasibility study was put together by [0:52:54, 0:52:56]: People who do numbers for a living. [0:52:57, 0:52:59]: Accountants and and such. [0:53:00, 0:53:04]: What really happens is now the police professionals get involved. [0:53:05, 0:53:06]: And they sit down. [0:53:07, 0:53:09]: In partnership with the community. [0:53:09, 0:53:19]: Because nothing's going to be planned until the chief goes out and talked to the public and says, what type of police force do you want to see? [0:53:19, 0:53:21]: In combination with him. [0:53:21, 0:53:23]: And the citizens review board. [0:53:24, 0:53:37]: We will get together. The chief will put a plan together. He will bring it back to the city council. Once he's brought it back to all of us, we've agreed upon the plan. Then it will be time to move forward to look back, look at the entire plan. [0:53:38, 0:53:40]: And see what the dollar amount is going to be. [0:53:41, 0:53:42]: Up until that point. [0:53:42, 0:53:43]: I can throw out. [0:53:43, 0:53:48]: You know, it's just like algebra. I could th I can make x equal anything that I want to. [0:53:49, 0:53:56]: until I have concrete tangible numbers to assign to those values. [0:53:56, 0:54:10]: It's it uh it could go either way. But in the end, no nobody's sitting up here. We just have projections. Nobody can tell you whether there's going to be a city tax. Hampton has a police department without a city tax. [0:54:11, 0:54:11]: Right. [0:54:11, 0:54:12]: Hmm. [0:54:12, 0:54:15]: Locus Grove has a police department without a city tax, right? [0:54:16, 0:54:31]: But until the numbers are finite, we understand what they are, and then actual operations will tell you, uh, and then those numbers will be fine, fine-tuned even more once our actual operations start. [0:54:32, 0:54:37]: But until that point, all of these hypotheticals can go east, west, north, and south. [0:54:38, 0:54:45]: But the real fact of the matter is nobody here can sit here and tell you definitively what's going to happen. [0:54:45, 0:54:48]: But in the end, it is our job. [0:54:48, 0:54:57]: To be able to come in to make the decision when the city has a nearly$16 million fund balance. [0:54:58, 0:55:00]: Mr. Wiggins verified that two days ago. [0:55:01, 0:55:05]: We just received we're gonna receive nine million dollars from the Biden. [0:55:05, 0:55:16]: uh administration program, uh the ARPA funds, the American Rescue Fund. The city has never been in a better financial pl place than it is right now. [0:55:17, 0:55:18]: We know that Congress is debating. [0:55:19, 0:55:20]: The infrastructure bill. [0:55:21, 0:55:23]: We could get eight to ten million dollars more. [0:55:24, 0:55:36]: And and yes, the funds for the ARP are restricted, but they're restricted right down the lane. It's a home run. Why? Because what does the city need more than anything? Infrastructure. [0:55:37, 0:55:41]: So the infrastructure costs are covered for the city. [0:55:41, 0:55:52]: Also, we we are in the middle of a pandemic, right? What can these funds be used for? We have a shortfall or whatever. We have pandemic funds to make that up. [0:55:52, 0:55:55]: But as our treasurer will tell you [0:55:55, 0:56:00]: And the tax commissioner will tell you, and Mr. Harris can answer after I finish speaking. [0:56:00, 0:56:02]: Revenu is surging. [0:56:03, 0:56:06]: It's at a all time high for Henry Cow. [0:56:06, 0:56:15]: We did not lose any money during the pandemic because what happened was all of those residents that were exiting our community to work. [0:56:15, 0:56:18]: Now they stay here on a daily basis and they work from home. [0:56:19, 0:56:23]: So we're seeing revit lost revenue surge in the community. [0:56:23, 0:56:27]: to make up the difference to to to take us to another level. [0:56:27, 0:56:34]: So in essence, we have a sixteen nearly sixteen million dollar fund balance. Revenue is growing. [0:56:35, 0:56:36]: On a monthly basis. [0:56:37, 0:56:48]: As SPLOSS revenue is growing, right? Okay. If the T-Splos passes, which I pray it certainly does, 30 million more dollars will be coming to the city coffers. [0:56:48, 0:56:49]: Restrictive funds again. [0:56:50, 0:57:02]: But there's no better time to do the what we're doing, to do what we're doing right now, because the city's financial structure is sound in every situation that it possibly can be. [0:57:02, 0:57:05]: And I will close by simply saying [0:57:05, 0:57:08]: You know, the answer to the question is the homeowners. [0:57:09, 0:57:09]: Okay. [0:57:10, 0:57:20]: Is that we are have embarked upon building the amphitheater and rebuilding the downtown and economic development so we can do what Cog County has done. [0:57:20, 0:57:22]: Winnett County and Fulton County. [0:57:22, 0:57:25]: They have businesses carrying the weight. [0:57:25, 0:57:29]: Henry County has homeowners carrying the weight. [0:57:29, 0:57:34]: As more industry and more high paying quality jobs come here. [0:57:35, 0:57:55]: The tax burden on the property owners will decrease. That's what will happen. And that that's why Cobb County, Fulton County, they have lower tax rates than we do, uh, because they have so much industry. And when you have industry, the property owners aren't soaked. And it's unfortunate. [0:57:55, 0:58:00]: But that's the reality of what we have in Henry County because of the lack of industry. [0:58:00, 0:58:04]: But every day each member of this Marin Council goes out. [0:58:04, 0:58:10]: to be able to increase economic development and with three thousand people. [0:58:10, 0:58:11]: Yeah. [0:58:11, 0:58:14]: Downtown Stockbridge on a regular basis for the amphitheater. [0:58:15, 0:58:21]: We did that. And we will continue to do that with the Cultural Arts Center and every business that we bring here. [0:58:22, 0:58:26]: Stand by a second, please. Mr. Harris, did you need to respond to any of that at this time? [0:58:26, 0:58:31]: The ta I want them to respond to the tax revenue and how it has increased. [0:58:32, 0:58:52]: Well, I I will say, you know, much like we saw at the state level, I think a lot of local jurisdictions are also seeing increases. Uh, you know, our our collection rates have been, you know, ninety-eight, ninety-nine percent over the last couple of years. Um, so we are seeing an uptick in the amount uh spending has, I mean, from um from sales tax revenues and things of that nature. [0:58:52, 0:59:12]: So much like we've seen at the state level, a lot of local jurisdictions are seeing that same kind of that same kind of um influx and and um increase in in um taxes levied over the course over the course of the last year and a half, two years. You know, some of those are certainly on the um state level is attributed to [0:59:12, 0:59:32]: they've um they were able to pick up on more. They incorporated a uh a mechanism for online taxation here within the state. And that went in that went into effect about a year and a half ago. So that was part of it. But I think across the board and talk to my my peers throughout the throughout the state, I think we're all seeing some of the [0:59:32, 0:59:35]: the same similar trends that we're seeing on a statewide basis. [0:59:37, 0:59:40]: Okay, thank you, sir. Mr Ms Gantt, uh your second time, please. Go ahead. [0:59:41, 0:59:54]: Thank you, Mayor. Sorry, point of order. Point of order. Point of order. Point of order. This is not the second time. This is like the third or fourth time. I believe I only had this only second time, as well I understand. Go ahead, Ms. Kent. [0:59:54, 0:59:56]: Thank you, Mayor. Um [0:59:58, 1:00:03]: As I heard all the the the pros and the cons or or everyone's statement. [1:00:03, 1:00:10]: Um I looked at the police report, the updated one from 2019 that we received in 2020. [1:00:11, 1:00:12]: And [1:00:13, 1:00:15]: The first statement was from [1:00:15, 1:00:17]: Uh councilman Alexander. [1:00:18, 1:00:31]: Who mentioned that this report was just done by some researchers and accountants, and that's not true. Some of the numbers and some of the report were done by officers of public safety as well as experts in PhD. [1:00:31, 1:00:43]: uh with the Carl Benson Institute as well as with Henry County Police Department that provided the numbers and their equipment totals and whatnot. They also looked at all of the cities. [1:00:43, 1:00:49]: um comparing them from McDonough and other cities that are are within our volume. [1:00:50, 1:01:05]: And again, one of the issues of concern was, and their summary, they actually stated that maybe we should, based off of these financials and the benefit, whether or not the benefit outweighs the burden. [1:01:05, 1:01:10]: speak more with the county and work out something because it makes sense. [1:01:10, 1:01:11]: Two [1:01:12, 1:01:14]: do it the way we've been doing it. [1:01:14, 1:01:34]: You can find it on page three or page 30 on the summary. On page 25, it kind of refers to some of the information and data it received some from some of the police officers. And so that takes care of that. It's not just accountants. Um the accountants did a financial report in June, and I believe received the email also in July. And if anybody wants that, [1:01:34, 1:01:36]: I'll make sure I get those dates for you. [1:01:36, 1:01:41]: The next thing is Hampton and Locust Grove have utilities. We don't. [1:01:42, 1:01:44]: Um and [1:01:44, 1:01:58]: The statement that Mr. Knight made on the email that I suggested earlier states that it is pretty much inevitable that we would have to have a tax. Now, right now that tax is only for the police department. [1:01:59, 1:02:19]: However, let me remind my colleagues that although we bonded out$25 million, we established 14 mil for our art center. And that's not going to cover the remaining four mil after we increase the size of the art center and the way we want it to. [1:02:19, 1:02:39]: appear. So that's an additional four. We don't limit, we don't have a cap or we can well, I don't know if we could put in there that we would limit this only to police services. But we are right now you can't hold one council hostage from another. So that cancels that. [1:02:39, 1:02:41]: We also talked. [1:02:42, 1:02:43]: Um [1:02:43, 1:03:03]: The um councilwoman barber made a good point. What if we annex in? Well, what if we put what if more people moved here? And the truth is the feasibility study gave us steps as well as I would ask all of my council members, and I can send you documentation like how to start a police department 101 that I've read recently. [1:03:03, 1:03:23]: From a cops organization that says that we first that in this study, it states we first should annex in. We have some jurisdictional line issues that may not benefit us. It will actually possibly cause a more of a delay because our boundaries are so messed up that the Henry County Police Department. [1:03:23, 1:03:31]: Or the city of Stockbridge Police Department will be confused as to where our jurisdictional lines are. So that may cause a delay. [1:03:31, 1:03:35]: I agree with Councilman Blount that we should have had these discussions before. [1:03:35, 1:03:55]: And I also think we should have had these discussions with our constituents. I think that we should have put this on the ballot for them. And I I I've heard, you know, this doesn't happen on startups, but I've also done that people just go out and they don't ask their citizens whether or not they want to be taxed. [1:03:55, 1:04:07]: Um, but I've heard different. Those startups came with new cities and they were on referendum ballots. So feel free to go look up any information that I have given you tonight. [1:04:08, 1:04:20]: Um, I plan on having a live myself documenting each and everything. Don't mind doing that. Don't mind giving you the dates and times of those documents. I've already printed them just in case they get ghost. [1:04:20, 1:04:33]: So if you don't have any mom, um I'm what I'm saying is, who is it to say that right now it says our estimate is a 3% increase each and every year? We've done this totally backwards. [1:04:34, 1:04:40]: totally backwards. We didn't follow the feasibility study that we paid for. [1:04:40, 1:04:43]: and hired experts, neither none of us, not one of us. [1:04:44, 1:05:03]: Unless one of you can tell me, have been a first responder besides Mr. Mayor Ford here, who was in the military. No one has been a first responder to the point where they know the logistics of how to start up a police department. So I relied on the experts that we paid. [1:05:04, 1:05:07]: We've done this totally backwards. [1:05:07, 1:05:08]: And [1:05:09, 1:05:12]: I hope that the citizens realize what we've done. [1:05:13, 1:05:16]: And I plan on continuing to let that be known. [1:05:17, 1:05:17]: Thank you. [1:05:18, 1:05:21]: Thank you. Mr. Blonde, go ahead. Mr. Blonde, go ahead, please. [1:05:23, 1:05:24]: Thank you, Mayor. [1:05:25, 1:05:28]: Uh, you know, when we talking to the citizens. [1:05:29, 1:05:33]: You know, when our organizational chart, the citizens come first and then the elect the body. [1:05:35, 1:05:41]: And I can say right now to the citizens, and Mr. Harris, if you bear with me, and I'm gonna get with with you one second. [1:05:42, 1:05:48]: You know, I learned about this our thriving to go toward the police department just as well as Councilwoman Gantt. [1:05:49, 1:05:51]: When there was amendment to the agenda. [1:05:51, 1:05:52]: To add three million dollars. [1:05:54, 1:06:01]: There was no discussion with this council, with our financial advisor, on how strategically we would or methodically we would move to start this police department. [1:06:02, 1:06:05]: It was put in place, and as you s right now. [1:06:06, 1:06:07]: Is this council? [1:06:08, 1:06:11]: moving because anytime we tell you about anybody we hire. [1:06:12, 1:06:14]: Financial advisor, city manager. [1:06:15, 1:06:19]: Our finance director that doesn't matter, those are hypotheticals. [1:06:20, 1:06:23]: Let's just continue to move forward on the council's agenda. [1:06:23, 1:06:25]: That's not what we was elected for. [1:06:26, 1:06:33]: One of the things one of the things that why we see this such a spike right now in our economy, and you correct me if I'm wrong, Mr. Harris. [1:06:35, 1:06:39]: During twenty twenty that was there was still there was substantial spending. [1:06:40, 1:06:56]: But there was an increased spike because of the trillions that was put in our budget by the federal government. This is why you find over a hundred ships off the coast of LA and you got over 80,000 uh containers sitting in Savannah right now. [1:06:57, 1:07:02]: Because the country was not ready for that spike because of the money that was put into the government. [1:07:02, 1:07:04]: That don't last always. [1:07:05, 1:07:10]: So we can't sit here with that hypothetical believing that that's gonna last always. [1:07:11, 1:07:21]: So when you talk about goods and you talk about uh hardships and you talk about this pandemic, we're all talking hypotheticals. This is why you do a feasibility study. [1:07:22, 1:07:27]: And a feasibility study is what we have to go by to move forward. This council has to go by. [1:07:27, 1:07:33]: Other than that, why pay the taxpayers money to do it? We just allow three council members to tell us what we're gonna do. [1:07:34, 1:07:37]: And that's where we are. But Mr. Harris [1:07:38, 1:07:39]: My understanding [1:07:40, 1:07:42]: Із the spike in this economy. [1:07:42, 1:07:44]: Came through the [1:07:44, 1:07:49]: um trillion I think it was two point whatever trillion that came in to the government. [1:07:49, 1:07:53]: And that's in the in the dick keep keep an increase. [1:07:53, 1:08:00]: But this is why the economy, the the the uh everybody wasn't ready for that spike. That's why the shells are empty. It's not that the goods aren't there. [1:08:01, 1:08:17]: Is that they there's nobody to to to move those goods. You got over 80,000 containers sitting in Savannah and over a hundred ships sitting out sea in in LA. But none of this can say, none of us can sit here and say this is sustainable. [1:08:17, 1:08:21]: is what's coming in is an increase in our uh local option sale tax. [1:08:24, 1:08:30]: Um mayor and councilman, I I was trying to say I'm I'm certainly not an economist by by any stretch, but [1:08:30, 1:08:32]: Um I would I would certainly [1:08:33, 1:08:45]: weighed in to say that certainly that influx of of funding coming in certainly has had an impact not just not just in Henry County, not just in the state of Georgia, but you're right, nationwide. [1:08:45, 1:09:00]: And then but beyond that, I mean, like I said, I'm not an economist. So as far as what that looks like in projections, that's that's not that's not I'm I'm not I'm not skilled to be able to to provide that information. But yeah, certainly I think common sense would dictate that that had an impact, certainly. [1:09:00, 1:09:03]: But just to follow up on what I was thinking, Mr. Harris. [1:09:03, 1:09:05]: The la the last thing. [1:09:05, 1:09:06]: You know [1:09:08, 1:09:12]: What this council is doing, I'm vested in the city of Stockbridge. [1:09:12, 1:09:14]: My home is here. [1:09:14, 1:09:15]: And I'm besting. [1:09:16, 1:09:22]: We've got no citizens involved in this process. That's what I'm hearing each and every day with phone calls. [1:09:22, 1:09:25]: citizens that don't know all this council had to do [1:09:26, 1:09:30]: is vote to send out a send out a mailer to tell the citizens the direction we're going in. [1:09:32, 1:09:33]: That's all they had to do, but they didn't do it. [1:09:34, 1:09:37]: Because you came over here and amended the agenda. [1:09:37, 1:09:39]: to increase three million dollars. [1:09:39, 1:09:43]: We can we cannot continue to play politics with the taxpayers' money. [1:09:44, 1:09:45]: That's my final thing. [1:09:46, 1:09:50]: Uh Councilman Thomas, go ahead, please. Thank you. Um [1:09:52, 1:09:55]: I have read the feasibility study. [1:09:55, 1:09:57]: I've read a number of documents. [1:09:58, 1:09:59]: Um [1:09:59, 1:10:01]: Discussing how you [1:10:02, 1:10:05]: uh develop a police department. [1:10:05, 1:10:06]: Um [1:10:07, 1:10:11]: These are documents that are out there, but they are not the the holy grail. [1:10:12, 1:10:14]: Uh even in the feasibility study. [1:10:15, 1:10:17]: There are pros and cons. [1:10:17, 1:10:18]: Uh to that. [1:10:19, 1:10:22]: And they talk about uh many of the advantages. [1:10:23, 1:10:25]: That the city will have [1:10:25, 1:10:28]: in in going forward and and forming those. [1:10:29, 1:10:29]: But [1:10:29, 1:10:32]: Feasibility studies and and documents. [1:10:33, 1:10:36]: They are nothing more than twos. [1:10:37, 1:10:38]: And framework. [1:10:39, 1:10:55]: to give you how you start up or how do you build something. It it's anything that you build, uh it's it's a framework, it's a tool. How? It doesn't tell you not to, it just tells you how to. [1:10:55, 1:10:56]: Uh that's number one. [1:10:57, 1:11:01]: I I'm going to agree with the mayor pro tem and and and I and those were [1:11:01, 1:11:04]: Uh great facts and opportunities that he spoke of. [1:11:05, 1:11:07]: And and when we look at these um [1:11:08, 1:11:15]: Federal dollars, and this is the thing that that I saw as well that we subsidize. [1:11:15, 1:11:17]: Да викан субсидіз. [1:11:18, 1:11:20]: Many of the [1:11:20, 1:11:40]: uh budgetary items that we normally would have to pay for. And that's the advantage that we have in just analyzing and looking at the the influx of finances that coming in. Because just just one um notion that we we identify with that uh these rescue [1:11:40, 1:11:55]: funds can be used up to once you establish your police department, they could be used up to 2024. And so all your infrastructure needs, that takes that weight off of your budget. [1:11:55, 1:11:56]: And let me just say this. [1:11:57, 1:12:02]: That's why we have budget hearings. That's why we just had recently uh a budget workshop. [1:12:03, 1:12:08]: We control the budget as long as it is balanced and it and everybody know. [1:12:08, 1:12:10]: That there's always things that [1:12:11, 1:12:12]: You don't have to have. [1:12:12, 1:12:15]: It's just like a Christmas wish list. [1:12:15, 1:12:25]: Your kids won't want everything, but that doesn't mean they're gonna get everything. So I'm just saying that we we have control. We control the budget. [1:12:25, 1:12:30]: uh we cut the waste where there's waste but let me just say this overall [1:12:30, 1:12:32]: I I still don't see a reason to wait. [1:12:33, 1:12:35]: Um we were elected. [1:12:35, 1:12:41]: uh to lead and I've also talked to a number a number of citizens. [1:12:42, 1:12:43]: And [1:12:43, 1:12:46]: I've heard some that have some some questions. [1:12:46, 1:12:48]: Um but overwhelmingly. [1:12:49, 1:12:49]: Um [1:12:49, 1:12:51]: Citizens say yes. [1:12:52, 1:12:58]: We need public safety. We need uh neighborhood patrol. Business owners say yes, we need that. So [1:12:59, 1:13:01]: I'm I'm just saying, um [1:13:02, 1:13:05]: We have to plan today for tomorrow, I think. [1:13:05, 1:13:06]: We have made a start. [1:13:07, 1:13:08]: Um, we determine [1:13:09, 1:13:11]: How fast? How slow? [1:13:11, 1:13:12]: And where? [1:13:12, 1:13:30]: But I I think and I and I support uh this stand uh where we are actually going. And I think this is a tremendous start, and we have to start somewhere in order to plan for tomorrow. I and I still I still have not heard of any legitimate reason why why to wait, because in my mind, [1:13:31, 1:13:32]: The path forward is very clear. [1:13:33, 1:13:38]: So Mayor, I'm going to end with that. And I know, Mary, I know you you want to try to move this agenda along, but [1:13:39, 1:13:43]: Uh, I'm still excited about the path forward, and it's still clear to me. [1:13:44, 1:13:47]: Um that that vision and that that pass forward. [1:13:47, 1:13:55]: Thank you. And Mr. Harris, I just want to thank you again for coming and sharing that information. And it was information that. [1:13:55, 1:14:09]: Uh we had already uh digested because I know that uh Mr. Wiggins uh and Mr. Knight have talked to you on on a number of occasions and I've had these discussions with Mr. Wiggins and Mr. Knight. And uh so this is just [1:14:10, 1:14:20]: We're just asking you tonight. These discussions have been going on for a while. I know I've asked and I'm satisfied with the answer that I received back. So thank you again, Ms. Harris. [1:14:20, 1:14:27]: Maybe council members want you to know that when Mr. Alexander speaks, that'll be two times from everybody. [1:14:27, 1:14:28]: On en tire council. [1:14:28, 1:14:30]: So and then uh we're gonna move on. [1:14:30, 1:14:32]: No go ahead, my protein. [1:14:32, 1:14:34]: Thank you, sir, for keeping count. [1:14:34, 1:14:38]: Uh we uh this is what I want to close on saying but generally. [1:14:38, 1:14:40]: We had a town hall in December. [1:14:41, 1:14:44]: Everybody was available that town hall was open to everybody. [1:14:46, 1:14:47]: The the mayor. [1:14:48, 1:14:49]: Castlevan Blount. [1:14:49, 1:14:50]: Councilman top uh [1:14:50, 1:14:51]: Uh [1:14:51, 1:14:56]: Councilwoman Blount, Councilman Blount, Councilwoman Gantt, everybody was on that town hall. [1:14:57, 1:14:59]: The potential of a city tax was mentioned then. [1:15:01, 1:15:02]: We had a town hall. [1:15:03, 1:15:05]: I was on the town in my town hall. [1:15:06, 1:15:07]: That was open to the public. [1:15:07, 1:15:13]: The city manager gave a full detail how the city how the plan was gonna be rolled out. [1:15:13, 1:15:14]: That was in April. [1:15:14, 1:15:26]: He gave a slide presentation on the plan. He didn't just talk about it. He had a side slide presentation, told the public we were looking for a police chief, getting ready to hire a police chief. [1:15:26, 1:15:46]: And guess how how many other conversations have we had just like this at every single meeting? We've had one of these conversations, almost every single meeting. So the message not being out is just ludicrous because we talk about it just like we're talking about it right now. [1:15:46, 1:15:50]: All the time, regularly, at almost every meeting. [1:15:51, 1:15:56]: mister Blount says the same thing, tax, tax, tax. Miss Gantt says the same thing. Tax, tax, tax. [1:15:56, 1:15:59]: We've had all the figures at our budget retreat. [1:16:00, 1:16:12]: We are having the chief that we hired to come on, but one thing was missed in this entire discussion. Henry County says, get your own police force for the last six to eight years. [1:16:12, 1:16:16]: They've been beating on a drum saying, get your own police force. [1:16:17, 1:16:30]: Over and over again. Just look at all of them meetings over and over again. They tried to end our police service in 2015 altogether, but the law wouldn't allow them to do it. So they gave us. [1:16:30, 1:16:32]: A halfway situation. [1:16:33, 1:16:34]: You know what? [1:16:35, 1:16:37]: I was at the swearing end of Chief Tremor. [1:16:39, 1:16:44]: Councilman Blount and Councilwoman Gantt didn't even bother to show up. But I know who did show up. [1:16:45, 1:16:48]: Chairwoman Colotta Horrell showed up. [1:16:49, 1:16:52]: Henry County Chief of Police Ammerman showed up. [1:16:53, 1:16:55]: Deputy Chief Ireland showed up. [1:16:57, 1:17:00]: I know that Henry County is in support. [1:17:00, 1:17:12]: of the fact that the city of Stockbridge is starting their own police department because they like the fact that McDonough has a police department. They like the fact that Locust Grove and Hampton have police departments. [1:17:12, 1:17:13]: And they have said it. [1:17:14, 1:17:26]: Too many times to count. Get your own police department stock bridge. Carry your own weight. We spent ten years trying to negotiate a deal. [1:17:27, 1:17:29]: Да газ а мільян дорз. [1:17:29, 1:17:49]: In rent in fine and forfeiture revenue going to the state instead of coming to the city. A million dollars in so when somebody gets a ticket in the city of Stockbridge, you know how much we collect? Zero, none, because the money doesn't come to us, because the county has been diverting it for years. So in the [1:17:49, 1:17:55]: last six wheel years we lost five or six million dollars in revenue that didn't come to the city. [1:17:56, 1:17:58]: But I'm gonna close by saying this. [1:17:58, 1:18:04]: If you don't if you don't understand that Henry County wasn't interested in negotiating with us. [1:18:05, 1:18:06]: Ask the chairwoman. [1:18:07, 1:18:08]: Ask your commissioners. [1:18:09, 1:18:22]: And verbatum, every last one of them will say Stockbridge needs their own police department. They support this decision. They want us to get off of them so they can defend the rest of the unincorporated area. [1:18:23, 1:18:33]: And again, if you had been at the swearing in of the chief, you could have talked to the chairwoman. She was glowing, smiling ear to ear, saying, yo, Stockbridge, it's time. [1:18:34, 1:18:39]: The Henry County supports us having our own police department and we're moving forward. Thank you. [1:18:40, 1:18:48]: Okay, ladies and gentlemen, uh Chief Frank Tramor. Sir, you're online. Uh all this discussion surrounding your department, your task. [1:18:49, 1:18:55]: I just want to offer you the opportunity to speak at this point if you want anything any comments or anything that you need to feel you need to say. [1:18:56, 1:18:57]: The floor is yours, sir, if you want it. [1:19:00, 1:19:08]: Well thank you, Mayor, and I apologize. I'm not able to look at you directly. I'm sitting in a line of traffic here just south of the city now. I actually headed back uh back home. [1:19:08, 1:19:17]: But um I I just wanna say I certainly understand the uh the concerns and I think that there are a lot of uh valid points on both ends that have been made. But what I do look forward to [1:19:18, 1:19:24]: is working together with everybody to actually outline a plan. And I know that there may um [1:19:25, 1:19:36]: Th there's still some some conversations. There's still some discussions. There's still some decisions that need to be made and certainly uh council and members of our community need to be involved in those conversations and discussions. [1:19:37, 1:19:55]: And a lot of things as it relates to budget uh is uh uh surrounding a police department is gonna be contingent upon the desired level and scope of service that the citizens want and um uh desire from their police department. So a lot of these things still um are uh estimates that are hypotheticals. [1:19:55, 1:19:59]: And um I certainly think that that when we have the opportunity to get everybody to [1:20:05, 1:20:10]: All right, sir. Yeah, I uh looks like you've frozen and a number of these uh these concerns. [1:20:14, 1:20:19]: Okay, Chief, you must be going through a uh some type of area there. We you're going in and out, sir. [1:20:25, 1:20:26]: Can you hear me now? [1:20:26, 1:20:27]: Now now I can hear you too. [1:20:28, 1:20:30]: Okay, very well. [1:20:31, 1:20:32]: Um [1:20:33, 1:20:36]: Work of [1:20:36, 1:20:45]: Summary of the scarlet they desire will be able to uh say more uh conclusively, more concretely. [1:20:45, 1:20:53]: uh what it's going to take in order to accomplish that objective. And I certainly do want the community's input in terms of [1:20:54, 1:20:55]: Uh what they want to see. [1:20:59, 1:21:00]: Department. [1:21:00, 1:21:02]: Based on that [1:21:02, 1:21:07]: I think that will largely determine move forward in uh in terms of uh budget to provide that level of service. [1:21:11, 1:21:13]: All right, we lost you again, Chief. You're going in and out. [1:21:14, 1:21:14]: Okay. [1:21:19, 1:21:19]: Okay, I [1:21:20, 1:21:22]: I know. Apologize. Can you hear me? [1:21:22, 1:21:24]: Here yeah, hear you now again. [1:21:26, 1:21:32]: Okay, okay. I'm so sorry for the technical difficulties. Where did you pick up on any of that? [1:21:32, 1:21:36]: Well, it about the last minute or so it's been in and out. Yeah. [1:21:36, 1:21:40]: We can maybe pull back uh about a minute and then repeat it again or maybe we'll catch it all. [1:21:41, 1:21:43]: And if hopefully that'll work. If not, we'll have to move on. [1:21:46, 1:22:01]: Okay, very well. So what I wanna say is that yeah, there's still a lot of things that have to be determined as it relates to implementation of the department and what that looks at community and uh we we want our elected body to be involved in those conversations and those discussions. [1:22:02, 1:22:06]: And the budget for the police department is gonna be contingent upon the desires of the community. [1:22:06, 1:22:12]: There are several different models that I've considered and uh the cost of those models is gonna be again contingent upon [1:22:12, 1:22:14]: The wishes of the community. [1:22:14, 1:22:20]: And um I think that when we have an opportunity to sit down and work together that this will be a lot more clear to everybody. [1:22:21, 1:22:23]: And we certainly again want to involve the community in [1:22:23, 1:22:24]: Yeah. [1:22:25, 1:22:27]: Uh, share those figures with them. [1:22:28, 1:22:35]: But um I I I think that they certainly need to be involved in that. And once we have the community input, we'll have a better idea. [1:22:35, 1:22:38]: In terms of what we need to fund this police department moving forward. [1:22:40, 1:23:00]: All right, sir. Thank you. Thank you for that, Chief. Have a safe trip back home. Uh obviously you can stay connected as long as you like, sir, in that aspect. Okay. And um on that note, uh just in case people don't know, I will at least tell you that uh I'm support of what we have we've done thus far to hire uh Chief Frank Tramor to start to play. [1:23:00, 1:23:20]: Police department. I think it's something that we need to do. We'll work through the process, give them the opportunity to engage the citizens, come up with a plan and have make sure you have the citizens' input in this aspect. We have had town halls over the course of the years, off and on. We've been discussing this for several years and this aspect. So it's not time to move forward. So we now have an individual that we [1:23:20, 1:23:40]: We've hired and that has the mission to develop this program, develop this department, he's going to get an opportunity to do so. And you citizens will be involved in that process and we'll continue to make go forward and make things work in this aspect. So we'll see. Uh we're up for the challenge. We're going to make it work one way or the other. And if for some strange reason doesn't, we'll regroup. But he's going to [1:23:40, 1:23:48]: get the opportunity to go forward with this. On that note, uh uh Mr. Harris, anything else you need to add before we close out this session of the meeting? [1:23:49, 1:24:01]: No, not at all. Um, should the council have any other questions, my me or my staff are always available for to address any issues or concerns or to meet again. That's what we're here for. So happy to help anyone we can. [1:24:02, 1:24:13]: Thank you, Tax Commissioner. Henry County Tax Commissioner, ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Michael Heron. Thank you for your time in Savannah. So have much of a good time. I will. All right. Good to see you, Mike. Y'all as well. Good to see y'all. [1:24:13, 1:24:15]: Take care now. Bye bye. Bye bye. [1:24:16, 1:24:36]: Old business council. Council consideration to approve request for proposal. RFP number 2019-0032P. Facility security equipment system services for related equipment and supplies. The procurement division is requesting approval to increase the contract amount of Johnson control. Security solutions L L C. [1:24:36, 1:24:56]: Tyco Integrated Security LLC, an amount of$496,332 and 6 cents for installation cost plus$7,995.88 for service cost and monitoring cost, monitoring cost of a total for a total of$504,320. [1:24:56, 1:25:02]: $27.94. This is presented by Miss Miller and Mr. Aaron, please. [1:25:05, 1:25:23]: Uh yes, Mayor and Council. This is uh the city has been for the last two years engaging and upgrading this access control, uh, inclusion monitoring and fire monitoring. So we're uh asking Mayor and Council to allow us to move forward with this project. We've already got [1:25:23, 1:25:25]: Several buildings, uh [1:25:26, 1:25:45]: the amphitheater, the public works building that has the security system. And also we've got to build a municipal court and city hall that have outlast their useful life as well as the municipal court is on a different system. But we want to consolidate all of those systems into one platform that the city [1:25:45, 1:25:47]: would be able to use and I'll let uh [1:25:47, 1:25:52]: Mr. Dean from Johnson Control, answer any questions if there are any. [1:25:53, 1:25:55]: But one thing to mention that this is [1:25:55, 1:26:00]: We'll be financed over a five year period. We've looked at it. We we'll budget for the [1:26:00, 1:26:03]: monthly annual payments for this project. [1:26:05, 1:26:09]: Thanks, sir. Um council, any questions for uh [1:26:09, 1:26:13]: Mr. Aaron or anybody else? Yes, sir. Go ahead, Mayor Protell. [1:26:13, 1:26:20]: So let me ask you a question. When I hear the word financing, I think about, you know, obviously, is the financing free? [1:26:23, 1:26:30]: I'll let Mr. Dean speak to this. Was the city manager did not want to take that amount out of fund balance? [1:26:31, 1:26:36]: with all the projects that were going on. So that's why we looked at this option. [1:26:38, 1:26:40]: But I'll let Mr. Dean speak to that. [1:26:40, 1:27:00]: Certainly. And let me just start by saying um, you know, appreciate the opportunity to be in front of everyone here to uh answer any questions. Certainly appreciate the opportunity to follow up the tax commissioner. That's always a fun conversation. Um, but certainly in terms of the financing, uh, Mayor Pro Tem. [1:27:00, 1:27:01]: Alexander it [1:27:02, 1:27:11]: Yes, to your to your point. It is a five-year agreement. It's done through a third party uh financing company that we utilize. Um [1:27:11, 1:27:20]: where it is going to be some sort of cost. I don't have the exact figures because unfortunately I'm standing in as you can see by the name that I'm identified by. [1:27:20, 1:27:36]: Uh our senior accountant executive uh Will Bush just happens to be on uh on vacation uh today celebrating a wedding anniversary. Um so I'm stepping in for him, but in terms of the exact details and the cost of that, I don't have those exact figures. I apologize. [1:27:36, 1:27:46]: Mr. Aaron, do you have a ballpark figure on what we're talking about? We I mean what what type of money are we talking about financing for five years? [1:27:46, 1:27:49]: Versus I mean you have millions of dollars in your own [1:27:49, 1:27:51]: uh funds. [1:27:52, 1:28:03]: Uh uh different water enterprise water fund, sewer fund, all these other funds. You got all this money too. So we even count it. So let's let's talk about that. So what how what are we talking about? [1:28:04, 1:28:13]: These are for general fund buildings. These are not water and sewer building. This is for city hall, the municipal court, the Merrill Manders, the Ted Strickland. Um [1:28:14, 1:28:24]: And I think that's that's it in reference to city buildings. The cost is based on a price of four hundred and seventy-four thousand one hundred and thirty-nine dollars. [1:28:25, 1:28:29]: Okay, so I mean, how much that's this is what I wanna know. [1:28:29, 1:28:42]: We have four hundred thousand dollars to spend. Is it going to c how much is it gonna cost to finance? I wanna know how much the finance before I'm ready to move forward. I wanna know how much the financing is. If the financing is not significant. [1:28:42, 1:28:44]: I suggest we just pay for it. [1:28:50, 1:28:51]: Are you able to answer that Mr. Aaron? [1:28:52, 1:28:53]: Um [1:28:57, 1:28:59]: Based on what I have [1:28:59, 1:29:00]: Uh [1:29:01, 1:29:03]: Just a quick and [1:29:07, 1:29:09]: It looked like a hundred and forty thousand dollars. [1:29:09, 1:29:11]: If we financed it over five years. [1:29:13, 1:29:18]: We're gonna pay a hundred and forty thousand dollars to finance this over fire. That's what you just said. [1:29:19, 1:29:20]: Roughly, yes, sir. [1:29:20, 1:29:28]: That makes no sense. Let's just revisit this. And I'm I'm recommending that we table this, circle back to it, and look at. [1:29:28, 1:29:32]: Uh what we can do uh in order to [1:29:32, 1:29:45]: actually pay this off because it makes no sense when we have all of this fun all of these funds in the bank to pay a hundred and forty thousand dollars in interest in five years when we have the money. That makes no sense. [1:29:46, 1:30:01]: Is that a motion? I don't I don't know. I I I certainly would I mean I'll let I'll let the conversation continue, but I my my suggestion is we table this because we need to pay for this. We got the money. We got well just talked about all the money that the city had. [1:30:01, 1:30:14]: in order for us to do this. Why would we give away$140,000 when we got all sixteen million dollars in fund balance, nine million dollars in the bottom infrastructure plan, and more money coming in every month? That don't make any sense. [1:30:14, 1:30:16]: Okay, stand by please. Miss Gantt, go ahead, please. [1:30:17, 1:30:18]: Thank you, uh Mayor. [1:30:19, 1:30:29]: Um, Mr. Wiggins, do you know why Mr. Knighton wanted us to finance this project? Exactly. What were the concerns about the projects and the funds that we have? [1:30:30, 1:30:33]: Um because although we have those money showing in [1:30:34, 1:30:44]: you know, fund balance. They've already been accounted for in spending. I I always say we can't keep spending the same two million dollars on 20 projects. [1:30:45, 1:30:47]: We used to do that a lot. [1:30:47, 1:30:48]: Um [1:30:49, 1:30:58]: A while ago we would name all these different projects we could spend on the two point five or the three million dollars that we sold, we would sell a piece of property and say we're gonna spend it on that. [1:30:58, 1:31:03]: And we spend it, but we can't spend it like five times. So [1:31:04, 1:31:05]: There has to be a reason. [1:31:06, 1:31:11]: For something like this for a and what's the dollar amount of the project again? [1:31:15, 1:31:17]: I think the dollar amount is about um [1:31:18, 1:31:21]: A little less than five hundred thousand dollars. Five hundred and four thousand dollars. [1:31:21, 1:31:22]: I think the [1:31:23, 1:31:25]: The thinking the thinking on this at the time. [1:31:26, 1:31:27]: was when um um [1:31:28, 1:31:32]: We was going back and forth with uh Johnson control on [1:31:32, 1:31:36]: What needs to be um secured um [1:31:37, 1:31:42]: the amphitheater was just just uh getting started during the course of it. [1:31:42, 1:31:43]: Uh [1:31:44, 1:31:46]: you know, finishing the project. [1:31:47, 1:31:48]: The thing it was uh [1:31:48, 1:31:50]: We go ahead and finance because at the time. [1:31:51, 1:31:54]: We're looking at all the funds for this particular year. [1:31:55, 1:31:58]: That's the thing we have to look at if you're gonna try to pay for it all at once. [1:31:59, 1:32:02]: You gotta see w where you're gonna all at once pour the money from. [1:32:03, 1:32:04]: And at the time [1:32:04, 1:32:08]: the uh the uh the money wasn't in one bucket because we didn't budget them. [1:32:09, 1:32:13]: This is this was something that that that was coming to fruition. [1:32:13, 1:32:16]: through the uh amphitheater. And then at the time [1:32:16, 1:32:18]: Really was just for the amplitude about the [1:32:18, 1:32:21]: Like Mr uh uh like D should see it. [1:32:22, 1:32:24]: We looked at the whole we it's it it was time to look at the whole city. [1:32:25, 1:32:27]: And making sure that the whole city is secure. [1:32:27, 1:32:31]: And that's the reason why the price is i it is, because I think [1:32:31, 1:32:34]: At in the beginning we was looking at was around ninety nine. [1:32:34, 1:32:37]: Some uh hundreds, some thousand dollars. [1:32:37, 1:32:39]: Maybe uh go out to maybe uh [1:32:40, 1:32:41]: Maybe two hundred, some thousand. [1:32:41, 1:32:43]: It was just for the amphitheater, but [1:32:43, 1:32:44]: Since we incorporated [1:32:44, 1:32:45]: The whole city. [1:32:46, 1:32:52]: to grab all of the general f all all all of the buildings. That's why the uh you have the five hundred thousand. So um [1:32:53, 1:32:53]: Okay. [1:32:54, 1:32:57]: I I don't think we looked at it again. I think the financing [1:32:58, 1:33:00]: Uh that we looked at before was [1:33:01, 1:33:01]: The sound. [1:33:02, 1:33:03]: But um [1:33:04, 1:33:05]: You know. [1:33:06, 1:33:08]: But the council's council's will and you know [1:33:09, 1:33:11]: You know, in further discussion. [1:33:12, 1:33:17]: If we want to try to pull uh some money together with using the fund balance. [1:33:17, 1:33:20]: That that that that is a decision for the for the council. [1:33:21, 1:33:24]: Listen, I I have some concerns. [1:33:24, 1:33:25]: Um [1:33:26, 1:33:41]: We we spend way too much. It's not okay to just say spin, spin, spin, spin, spin, because look at our fund balance. The auditors have said it, our financial advisor has said it. Mr. Knighton even had put it in writing. You know, we're gonna put strain. [1:33:41, 1:33:56]: on our on our budget and on our balance. I take pride in the fact that we do have some savings. It was also advised that we don't go to the 25% let minimum, you know, that we've heard often. [1:33:56, 1:33:59]: And you know, I don't want that blood on my hands. [1:34:00, 1:34:03]: I I have a concern that we [1:34:03, 1:34:08]: Are if we're financing something like this, that raises a red flag to me. [1:34:09, 1:34:10]: All day, every day. [1:34:11, 1:34:13]: And it should raise a red flag to you all too. [1:34:15, 1:34:15]: Um [1:34:15, 1:34:20]: You know, we've allocated money for other projects. [1:34:20, 1:34:22]: That's why we're having to finance this. [1:34:23, 1:34:24]: We're just spending. [1:34:26, 1:34:30]: That's uh and and you know, I can't agree to that. [1:34:31, 1:34:41]: Our infrastructure is important. These are in very I mean it's important, but we put this together and and here we are. It's five hundred thousand dollars. You telling me I need to finance it. [1:34:44, 1:34:46]: That's a telltale sign there that there's [1:34:46, 1:34:48]: An issue with spending. [1:34:49, 1:34:50]: That we need to be aware of. [1:34:53, 1:34:54]: Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [1:34:56, 1:35:02]: I was actually prepared to abstain from voting on this because I don't see any supporting documents. [1:35:02, 1:35:04]: Pertaining to this item. [1:35:05, 1:35:06]: Okay. [1:35:06, 1:35:07]: Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. [1:35:08, 1:35:13]: Uh we're done. You're not you were not done. I thought you were done. [1:35:13, 1:35:15]: No, I wasn't done. Go ahead, please. [1:35:17, 1:35:19]: What I wanna ask is [1:35:20, 1:35:22]: What is the recommendation? [1:35:22, 1:35:23]: From Mr. Aaron. [1:35:24, 1:35:25]: On how to [1:35:26, 1:35:27]: Handle this. [1:35:27, 1:35:30]: Is he asking council to approve? [1:35:32, 1:35:35]: This um spending from general fund. [1:35:36, 1:35:37]: Is he asking? [1:35:38, 1:35:41]: I mean, I don't know how we plan to finance this. Um [1:35:41, 1:35:43]: Mr. Aaron, can you answer that please? [1:35:44, 1:35:56]: Yes, ma'am. This pro as I said, this project has been ongoing for two plus two plus years. And there's some issue with outdated equipment when it comes to ours, security and access control monitoring. [1:35:57, 1:36:04]: And we've had this conversation with the city manager. And his concern was at the time the city would had a lot of projects going on. [1:36:04, 1:36:19]: He didn't want to take a large amount out of fund balance. So we went back to jobs control and realized that there was a financing option. The money was always there in fund balance if the city wanted to pay for it up front, but the city manager just felt at the time. [1:36:20, 1:36:40]: With all the projects that were going on and we were using fund balance for this project and that project, he didn't want to spend that larger amount out of fund balance. So that's why we came to council with the financing option because there are some equipment that needs to be replaced that's outdated, that's original to the city hall building, original to when the city [1:36:40, 1:36:42]: Took over the municipal court. [1:36:42, 1:36:54]: And so with the police department is getting started up. This project's gonna take a while. There are some features that need to be added to the the courtroom over there as well as the building. So we was trying to get these things in. [1:36:54, 1:37:10]: in place and done. Like I said, this has been going on for two years and we're just trying to bring it to a resolution. And at the time when we sat down with the city manager, he didn't want to take that amount of money out of fund balance with all the projects that was going on. So that's why we looked at this option. [1:37:11, 1:37:18]: So is this the same services? There was a gentleman who actually came and presented to the council. [1:37:18, 1:37:21]: All the buildings that he [1:37:21, 1:37:21]: Um [1:37:22, 1:37:24]: did an audit of [1:37:24, 1:37:25]: Is this what [1:37:26, 1:37:28]: He was doing as well, or is this something separate? [1:37:30, 1:37:46]: As far as I know, this is something separate. Like I said, we had uh we've got the updated security monitoring at the amphitheater. We've got it at the new public works building, but we wanted to update what we had at City Hall and Municipal Court. We don't have anything in the mural managers or the admin or the Ted Strickland. [1:37:46, 1:37:49]: And we want to bring those facilities online as well. [1:37:50, 1:37:53]: Okay, can you well um I [1:37:53, 1:38:02]: I am willing to second Mayor Pro Tem's uh motion to table this. If you could just bring back the supporting documents at our next meeting. [1:38:02, 1:38:05]: Then of course I believe this is something uh [1:38:05, 1:38:06]: critical that we do need. [1:38:06, 1:38:07]: Um [1:38:07, 1:38:10]: It's a security and monitor monitoring system. [1:38:11, 1:38:11]: We need them. [1:38:12, 1:38:13]: So thank you. [1:38:14, 1:38:15]: Come on. Mr. Thomas, please go ahead. [1:38:16, 1:38:22]: Yes, uh Mr. Aaron, thank you. Uh and I I I guess one of the issues that I have when you mentioned [1:38:22, 1:38:28]: Um this been in the pipeline for two or three years and I'm trying to gauge [1:38:28, 1:38:37]: um you know what were those issues um three years ago as to why it didn't come forward. Secondly I wanted to hear from procurement. [1:38:38, 1:38:39]: Um, just to [1:38:40, 1:38:43]: Um, you know, get another uh opinion on it. So [1:38:43, 1:38:45]: Uh can Mrs. Millis out a [1:38:46, 1:38:48]: Uh, give us some insight on this issue. [1:38:51, 1:38:51]: Ms. Miller? [1:38:57, 1:38:58]: Miss Miller. [1:39:05, 1:39:08]: Ah yes, I'm sorry. I do apologize. I was having some technical difficulties. [1:39:09, 1:39:11]: Um regarding this agenda item. [1:39:12, 1:39:12]: Um [1:39:13, 1:39:16]: My recommendation um is to pull the item and um [1:39:17, 1:39:17]: Bring it back. [1:39:17, 1:39:19]: Um with additional information. [1:39:19, 1:39:20]: Yes, I did. [1:39:20, 1:39:21]: Advice um [1:39:22, 1:39:24]: The city manager and Dashes. [1:39:27, 1:39:28]: Uh Ms. Thomas, another question, sir. [1:39:29, 1:39:44]: Well, I I I I guess it makes sense then to uh bring back the su supporting documents so we can actually uh review and analyze. So I would be in favor of that as well. But no without a doubt, you know, uh security uh is needed. [1:39:46, 1:39:47]: Thank you, Mayor. [1:39:47, 1:39:51]: No problem. Uh anybody else? Any other anybody else? [1:39:52, 1:39:53]: Uh Mr. Blanc, go ahead, please. [1:39:55, 1:40:04]: Thank you, Mayor. M Mr Aaron, is this when you talk about justice control, not because I don't have any supporting documents on it either. Um [1:40:05, 1:40:07]: Did you mention City Hall with this? [1:40:08, 1:40:11]: Yes, sir. There's some uh [1:40:11, 1:40:19]: Uh some things I'd rather not speak about in the open meeting, but there are some upgrades that are needed at City Hall as well as the municipal court building. [1:40:19, 1:40:23]: Okay, some that are needed, but in this [1:40:23, 1:40:26]: In this amount, does that include City Hall? [1:40:26, 1:40:30]: Yes, sir. City Hall, the municipal court, the mural manders. [1:40:30, 1:40:31]: And it's strictly. [1:40:35, 1:40:35]: Okay. [1:40:36, 1:40:37]: That that's all. Thanks. [1:40:38, 1:40:40]: Back to you, Mayor Portan. Do you want to make a motion here? [1:40:41, 1:40:46]: I wanna say just a couple of words real quick. There has l let me say something real quick. [1:40:46, 1:40:47]: To my knowledge. [1:40:47, 1:40:51]: We have nearly sixteen million dollars in the reserve funds. [1:40:51, 1:40:59]: I don't know anything about any of it already being reserved for anything else because it hasn't been reserved for anything else, the reserve fund. [1:40:59, 1:41:01]: We have splots dollars coming in. [1:41:02, 1:41:18]: That we allocated to pay for a lot of these projects. So we basically we took low interest loans in order to move those projects forward so they could be paid back over five years from the splots. That's what we did. So the 16, the nearly 16 billion dollar fund. [1:41:18, 1:41:20]: uh balance that we have. [1:41:20, 1:41:25]: That money hasn't been allocated to anything to my knowledge, because this council hasn't voted. [1:41:25, 1:41:35]: to allocate it for anything. Has the money been, Mr. Wiggins, has the sixteen nearly sixteen billion dollars been allocated for any projects that you're aware of? [1:41:36, 1:41:39]: No, it's not allocated to to [1:41:39, 1:41:42]: specific projects. It's it's just that um [1:41:42, 1:41:44]: You know, you you want to keep [1:41:45, 1:41:45]: Um [1:41:47, 1:41:49]: You know, uh fun uh uh uh [1:41:50, 1:41:55]: Our budget is about 12.8 million. You want to keep about that much in there. [1:41:55, 1:41:55]: Uh [1:41:56, 1:42:00]: going from year to year so you can uh you know, in in case of uh [1:42:00, 1:42:03]: Some catastrophic uh emergency, but [1:42:03, 1:42:07]: far as the funds, funds are not adequate, you know, uh dedicated to [1:42:07, 1:42:10]: specific uh uh project or any kind of uh [1:42:11, 1:42:14]: you know, uh purchase of our equipment, anything like that. [1:42:14, 1:42:15]: It's uh [1:42:15, 1:42:16]: Is is there [1:42:17, 1:42:18]: For reserve. [1:42:18, 1:42:20]: Is there for [1:42:21, 1:42:23]: City council make a decision on [1:42:23, 1:42:24]: What do you want to use it for? [1:42:25, 1:42:35]: Which is an exact situation like this, where we can save$140,000 over five years. Where are we getting the money from? A loan shark at twenty percent? [1:42:35, 1:42:43]: Over five years, who's financing this? This that's just certainly not wise. And we can save a hundred and forty thousand dollars. [1:42:43, 1:43:03]: Over five years, think what we can do with that. It makes sense to me. This whole process is uh it needs to be reviewed, and we need time uh to bring this back because uh that makes no sense that we're moving down uh that particular road. And then and again, revenue and everything is growing. So I'm gonna make a motion to. [1:43:03, 1:43:10]: revisit this it to table this item to bring back additional documentation and to look at the city actually going ahead [1:43:11, 1:43:14]: And paying this saving a hundred and forty thousand dollars. [1:43:15, 1:43:15]: Second. [1:43:20, 1:43:21]: You muted, Mayor. [1:43:23, 1:43:32]: Thank you very much. Appreciate that. Anyway, motion made by Pro Tempor Tem Alexander, segmented by Councilwoman Barber. And any further discussion? [1:43:33, 1:43:44]: Let me let me get let me be clear on the uh motion there. Go ahead. So it's the make is the motion to revisit to get documents, but you also put an end, Mr. Alexander, to [1:43:44, 1:43:51]: move forward to paying the the amount in totality. Is that part of your motion to say we're gonna pay the amount in totality? [1:43:52, 1:44:12]: My my motion does include that, but it's up to the council to decide what we do. But that's my motion because there's no sense to to waste$140,000. We got the money in the bank. No, I I get that. I just want to understand the motion. Yeah, that's that's my motion right now. And and the reason let me explain a little bit first. [1:44:12, 1:44:22]: The reason that I'm doing that is because again, we have the money in the bank. We have available funds to us and we can save$140,000. Yes. [1:44:23, 1:44:24]: Uh [1:44:25, 1:44:28]: So the motion should include non f not financing. [1:44:29, 1:44:30]: I believe I'm Mayor Pro Tem. [1:44:32, 1:44:51]: I'm if he yeah, well you can you can say it that way if he wants to mayor if you will because uh because if if he just says he wants to revisit it, all of that can be uh understood on the re whenever we revisit it. And uh we can actually uh talk through uh how how we can go through that. I don't think you need to actually say that. [1:44:51, 1:44:54]: If we're gonna revisit it. But I would say that that um [1:44:55, 1:44:57]: I I would that this had would have been done. [1:44:58, 1:45:05]: uh in the process of of all the construction that was going on because there's some discussions we need to also have. [1:45:05, 1:45:10]: on allotments of money, monies that uh if those allotments wasn't [1:45:11, 1:45:11]: Um [1:45:12, 1:45:13]: Uh depleted. [1:45:14, 1:45:20]: uh where are those fines going and uh and in certain areas which separate discussion in itself. [1:45:20, 1:45:21]: Um [1:45:22, 1:45:24]: But I I'm I'm I'm okay with revisiting. [1:45:25, 1:45:32]: uh this and get in further documents, but we um um it's just that last part. I I just want to make sure that [1:45:33, 1:45:35]: What is needed is needed. [1:45:35, 1:45:41]: But I just wanna make sure we're getting there in the right way. And and I'm just trying to figure out how do we get here now when [1:45:42, 1:45:49]: This should have this is why we why we you know putting the uh you know this should have been done. That's all I'm gonna say. [1:45:50, 1:45:51]: All right. [1:45:51, 1:46:11]: Uh Mirapal Tim, you uh your motion is what it is. You have no intention on changing the uh the verbage in the motion, is that right? I I just said what it meant, which is we you know we're revisiting this and and the intention is to pay for it unless something dynamite comes out and says this is not the way. I don't see anything coming up saying that$140,000 being saved. [1:46:11, 1:46:22]: is not a good idea. So I would certainly hope that we would move through with paying for it, but we'll revisit it. We don't want to make the decision here tonight, but we certainly need to look at it. And that would be my intention. [1:46:22, 1:46:30]: All right. Uh so Ms. uh Clerk, uh I'm assuming you got all that there. Uh stand by m uh Mr. Thomas, stand by please. Miss Miller, go ahead, please. [1:46:30, 1:46:34]: I I just wanted to add, um I will go ahead and um [1:46:35, 1:46:45]: modify the agenda to include a comparable so that council can see if it was finance, what it would cost, what the overall would cost as well. So it would be in one agenda. [1:46:45, 1:46:50]: along with the additional backup information which will show the actual breakdown of the entire cost. [1:46:51, 1:46:52]: All right. Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. [1:46:53, 1:46:59]: Well, I I I think that should always be the norm anyway. I think the more information that we have. [1:47:00, 1:47:02]: Uh to make these type of decisions. [1:47:02, 1:47:09]: uh that kind of information is needed. And I think we sort of talked about that before. But let me ask Mr. Eric, because I'm trying to [1:47:09, 1:47:20]: recall during the recent uh budget retreat uh in your bill and uh maintenance budget uh that you include any of this? [1:47:21, 1:47:30]: That uh the last conversation I had with the city manager, we did some changes to the budget to account for if we were financing this. [1:47:31, 1:47:31]: This project. [1:47:33, 1:47:35]: To make those annual payments. [1:47:37, 1:47:47]: So if if I go back and and and revisit the what you presented at the budget retreat, I will be able to see some uh detailed information. [1:47:47, 1:47:49]: In your presentation. [1:47:49, 1:47:56]: There's a line item in the budget in the government buildings budget that says security upgrades. That's what that would be. [1:47:58, 1:48:02]: But in your presentation, you did not elaborate per se. [1:48:03, 1:48:15]: No, sir, because this, like I said, this has been going on for two years and prior to the city manager leaving, we finally got to go ahead and I guess Mr. Berry reviewed it to put this item on the agenda. [1:48:16, 1:48:17]: to move forward with. [1:48:19, 1:48:23]: So that's why it wasn't presented during the budget presentation. [1:48:25, 1:48:27]: Okay, well I I won't [1:48:27, 1:48:32]: further that discussion. But I I'll talk with you about this later. But as I sort of alluded to [1:48:33, 1:48:43]: And I know we've sort of talked about this before. See, in order for us to make these decisions, uh, we have to have this information. And I think staff. [1:48:43, 1:48:45]: Uh has to [1:48:45, 1:48:48]: become aware of that at some point in time. [1:48:48, 1:48:50]: That you know, you have to provide information. [1:48:51, 1:49:02]: Uh and we could call you up, you know, before the meeting if we had the information to be able to digest. So I'm just recommending that, you know, in the future, and I know we've said this before. [1:49:02, 1:49:06]: Just, you know, give us more information so we can make informed decisions. [1:49:06, 1:49:08]: I yield back, Mayor, and thank you, Mr. Aaron. [1:49:09, 1:49:09]: No problem. [1:49:11, 1:49:16]: Thank you, sir. No problem. Uh okay, so motion's been made, been seconded. There's no further discussion. [1:49:16, 1:49:26]: I do have one point I'd like to make, Mayor, just very quickly, is that you know we it was brought up tonight that we don't want to go down to 125 uh 25% fund balance. [1:49:27, 1:49:30]: We have a hundred and fifty percent fund balance right now. [1:49:31, 1:49:36]: Okay, let's contrast that. Henry County has a twenty-five percent. [1:49:36, 1:49:37]: Fun balance. [1:49:38, 1:49:39]: plan that they go to. [1:49:39, 1:49:51]: I don't suggest we go to that, but we're nowhere near the basis. The Georgia Municipal Association recommends the 25% fund balance as a minimum as well. [1:49:51, 1:49:56]: So not only are we above that, we're about seven times above that. [1:49:57, 1:50:02]: That that tells you, okay, we are in a financial position to be able to do something about that. [1:50:02, 1:50:07]: So in essence, again, we should move forward with this. So call for the vote. Thank you. [1:50:08, 1:50:11]: No problem. Motion has been made in a second. So all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:50:13, 1:50:16]: Yes, so Mr. Blonde, are you voting, sir? [1:50:19, 1:50:26]: Are you voting, Mr. Blount? This is this is to revisit it. Yes. Yes, sir. So it's a unanimous decision. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. [1:50:26, 1:50:33]: Okay, we're gonna now go on to uh matter of fact, uh Mr. Will Bush. Thank you for being here, sir. Uh you can stay as long as you like. Appreciate it. [1:50:34, 1:50:51]: Uh we're now going to public hearing and rezoning case RZ202021-01 has been postponed for at least 30 days based on the applicant. So we're now going to go into the first reading, council consideration uh to approve the Unified Development Code UDC. [1:50:51, 1:51:11]: City of Stockbridge Planning Commission and the City of Stockbridge Mayor and City Council review the community development department's proposed new Unified Development Code, UDC, which includes the city's zoning code, the new UDC, will comprise both of up an update and rewriting of the existing UDC for the purposes one, making needed corrections and clarifications. [1:51:11, 1:51:17]: Two, revisiting the allowable zoning districts in the city. Three, making the document more user-friendly. [1:51:17, 1:51:19]: Ms. Johnson, please. [1:51:25, 1:51:28]: Good evening, everyone. Can you all hear me all right? [1:51:28, 1:51:48]: We have you hear we hear you now. Awesome. Thank you, Mayor Ford, Council members and residents and colleagues. So yes, we are finally bringing the UDC to you all formally for the first public hearing. We wanted to bring it as a first reading for to collect comments from the council members here. [1:51:48, 1:51:57]: uh and also the public and then come back for a second reading and and um subsequent approval in the october 26th. [1:51:57, 1:51:59]: meeting coming up in a few weeks. [1:52:00, 1:52:08]: So the process for the UDC has been underway for the past 11 months. It started in November of last year. I came on board in April. [1:52:08, 1:52:13]: And have uh been able to to kind of pick things up and work with a consultant to [1:52:13, 1:52:20]: um uh obtain public input, input from our staff, input from our planning commission, and this council. [1:52:21, 1:52:31]: Uh at this point, the Planning Commission has approved to move forward and recommend approval of the document as of September 23rd, 2021. [1:52:31, 1:52:42]: It is currently under legal review and thanks. I appreciate each of the council members and planning commissioner members for the one-on-one meetings so that we can get your specific input. [1:52:42, 1:52:51]: and incorporate that into the code. You won't see those changes in the version you have today because we've had this is a working document. [1:52:51, 1:53:03]: And this will be a working document between now and adoption. So um I'll go ahead and let Ms. Casey Kurzik from our consultant team, the collaborative firm. [1:53:03, 1:53:10]: go ahead with the presentation and we'll I may step in here and there during the presentation, but over to you, Casey. [1:53:10, 1:53:30]: Perfect. Thank you so much, Recca. And thank you, Mayor and Council members, for allowing us to be here tonight. This has been a very exciting process. I know you all have been with us from step one. So we are in the final stretch here. So if it's okay, I'm going to share my screen. [1:53:30, 1:53:50]: screen and we will kind of kick off the presentation because really the purpose for tonight is really to conduct a public hearing. So we want to make sure that all of the residents have the most updated information. I know we met um through your uh council retreat and then also met [1:53:50, 1:54:10]: With seven several of the members just last week. So as Miss Bruca said, this is currently um being updated daily to incorporate all of those um comments we received and just kind of improving on some of the sections that we already had written. So if you recall, we have [1:54:10, 1:54:30]: Several bullets that we've really tried to identify through this entire process. And that is to improve organization and user friendliness for all users. So that's staff, that's council members, that's planning commission, that's residents, that's engineers, architects, everyone. Update the zoning and overlay decisions. [1:54:30, 1:54:38]: Districts, integrate those architectural and site design requirements, and define and streamline those review processes. [1:54:38, 1:54:58]: Now we do have a little bit of a new UDC organization, which we've talked about a little bit before. And that's really because your previous organization really kind of held all of the zoning and the site development regulations and even a lot of those stormwater and traffic regulations in two to three different sections. [1:54:58, 1:55:17]: So we just wanted to kind of do a little bit of a reorganization. So when people are looking for information, you know, even if it's as simple as they want to build a fence in their backyard, or if it could be as great as a plan development, multi-stories, multiple lots, that they will be able to find all the information. [1:55:17, 1:55:21]: Um, so I want to kind of kick off with the zoning districts itself. [1:55:22, 1:55:42]: Currently, you have 19 zoning districts within your zoning code, primarily those residential uses, commercial uses, industrial uses, and mixed use. Throughout this process, we've really identified some districts that are really kind of have similar [1:55:42, 1:55:51]: standards. There may not be a high demand for such things as the rural residential anymore. And we've also looked at combining [1:55:52, 1:56:11]: some districts expanding certain districts and uses because we do have more going on especially in the realm of housing opportunities and then also creating new districts. So if we go to the next one you'll kind of see let me move everyone's face so I can read through these. [1:56:12, 1:56:20]: What we did is this is kind of this is actually in your zoning code, and we have um really regulated and spelled out where the [1:56:20, 1:56:32]: um districts were combined. So your RA and your R1, which are your single family districts, will become your new rural residential districts, still having a minimum standard of one acre. [1:56:32, 1:56:52]: Your R2 and R3 have been combined into a suburban residential district. You probably know most of these as kind of your 1990, maybe early 2000 build-outs of your single-family homes, really coming in about maybe 30,000 square feet. And then your residential. [1:56:52, 1:57:12]: Duplex district was really a little underutilized. So what we did is really kind of expand the uses here. And we'll talk a little bit more about that. But that's going to allow different types of housing, kind of a smaller lot footprint, and more specific areas in the city that those can be used. [1:57:12, 1:57:32]: comes to your multifamily, you actually had multiple districts. And it really seemed like the one that was being heavily used was your RM district. So we really combined all of those to create one multifamily district with guidelines. All the other districts tend to be a little bit the same. We did create a new down [1:57:32, 1:57:52]: Downtown zoning district for you. And we'll talk about that shortly. And then we did take a look at your mixed use districts and how they were being utilized. And what we found is you really have a lot of planned unit developments out there that you were really kind of missing a zoning district for. So we wanted to clean that up for you. [1:57:52, 1:57:59]: And that would be allowed to have mixed use across the land or even vertical in the buildings. [1:58:00, 1:58:20]: Now, here's kind of the new exciting things. Um, we do have a two-page layout for each zone district. Um, I know uh for staff, I think this will be a great help. Um, they can actually go to just two pages in the code. This will help developers. So you'll have your district intents, all of the permitted uses that. [1:58:20, 1:58:21]: That are allowed. [1:58:21, 1:58:40]: Any conditional uses or accessory uses all spelled out. And then the second page will also have those minimum lot area requirements, the lot frontage requirements, your front yard, side yard, rear yard setback, some height requirements, and the minimum lot coverage. [1:58:41, 1:59:01]: Now, in addition to that, which I know staff is really excited about, we also created a use table. So what this does is if you're kind of in our planning world, everyone will either ask us the question because they know where their property is, they know exactly what their property address is, and they just [1:59:01, 1:59:03]: want to know what they can build there. [1:59:03, 1:59:23]: Which you would use the previous table on. But sometimes people come with their use. Let's just say it's a restaurant, and they want to know what districts they should be looking for when they work with their real estate agent. So this here is going to show all of those specific uses, whether they're permitted, conditional uses, or [1:59:23, 1:59:42]: accessory uses within each zoning district. And then also if there's any additional regulations that they have to know about, maybe it's a distance requirement or fencing requirements or outdoor storage, then they'll know exactly which section to go to. [1:59:43, 2:00:03]: Um, as we talked about, the one new thing that came out of all of the discussions we heard, especially in the public arena, was the need for a true downtown Main Street zoning district. Um, you have your downtown Main Street area. Of course, you guys are working very hard on your amphitheater, your cultural arts center. You obviously have your new buildings and courts. And so we've [2:00:03, 2:00:23]: Really just wanted to expand on that a little more. You do have the overlay that's still in place in downtown, but really honing in on that downtown specific and making sure that the uses you want to have down there can be there by right. Those are going to be your apparel and retail stores, your bakery. [2:00:23, 2:00:43]: In your cafes, certain day spas, possible breweries, ice cream stores, professional offices, things of that nature. And then the one thing we did build in, because we know, you know, other things can happen, is that there can be residential on the upper stories of these existing. [2:00:43, 2:00:54]: for new bills that may come. And then we also added in um some additional options for housing when it comes to duplexes, triplexes, and quadruplexes. [2:00:54, 2:01:14]: Your downtown is getting more walkable every day, every time the city has a new venture that connects these things. So we want to make sure that we have people down there who can walk around and enjoy. And it's not just always we have to come and we have to park. Um, and those would be allowed through good conditional use permits. So you can really determine exactly where. [2:01:14, 2:01:17]: where they're most appropriate places for that location. [2:01:19, 2:01:27]: And then when it comes to that zoning district, um, we really focused on just placing that new zoning district. [2:01:27, 2:01:44]: on those existing buildings in the downtown that exist. Those are going to be your uh civic buildings, your recreation areas, and then of course um the the primary businesses in the downtown will carry that zoning. [2:01:46, 2:02:06]: And then we were talking previously about the expanded uses in the residential district. Right now you just allowed in that city center district to have single family homes or duplexes. But we also wanted to allow some additional options, and those would be for triplexes, quadruplexes. [2:02:06, 2:02:23]: I know a big discussion right now are accessory dwellings. So if you and I can think about that, that might be if you have an in-law, whether it be in the house or in the rear of the yard, we've actually spelled out some requirements for that. And also making sure that there's a place for senior housing. [2:02:23, 2:02:31]: Um, to make sure that they can have the benefits of these areas where they can walk and dine and shop and enjoy their time. [2:02:33, 2:02:53]: Now, when it comes to the PD district, like I said, we actually combined three of your districts here to create your plan development. And this will allow a combination of uses, whether they're horizontal or vertical. It's going to promote the most flexibility in the development standards. [2:02:53, 2:03:13]: A lot of the city is built out, but you do have areas where we've we've heard from developers they just need a little more flexibility, whether it's just a kind of a setback standard or really they kind of have a new idea coming in. Primarily it could be focused even on senior housing and facilities that. [2:03:12, 2:03:32]: That could utilize that. And we're really hoping this would be a catalyst for new development and even redevelopment patterns in the city. As we know, there's a lot of things exploding and going on in the south side specifically. So as development comes, we really want to arm you with flexibility, but also with [2:03:32, 2:03:38]: with the control that you guys need to get the development that you want in the end. [2:03:40, 2:04:00]: Now we also did spell out a kind of a new process for this plan development district. So what would happen is if a developer would come in, they would come in with their preliminary concept plans that would have to be reviewed by planning commission, city council. And of course, your city staff would have comments and reviews. [2:04:00, 2:04:20]: on that. And if that concept is ultimately approved by you as the mayor and city council, then what they would be required to do is put together their full master development plan. So this is really going to spell out the specifics a little more engineering detailed, will actually specifically know building envelopes, what the [2:04:19, 2:04:28]: The setbacks are, what the exact uses will be in properties and things like that. And those will then be conditioned to that site. [2:04:30, 2:04:50]: And then I know this is um kind of a separate item, but I do want to make sure that you can actually see the um new zoning map here. So what we did is we really took your existing zoning map and then we looked at the areas that were being combined or potentially those areas that were being created new, especially when it came to the down. [2:04:50, 2:04:54]: downtown area and then we created a new map for you. [2:04:56, 2:05:07]: Another thing that came up time after time again was your overlay districts. Um, and also um we heard a lot of discussions about [2:05:07, 2:05:15]: Joe designers that are actually linked per zoning to a piece of property down there at Johtoco, as you're aware. [2:05:15, 2:05:33]: So when we looked at those overlay districts, you actually have three of them: the High Rise District, the Highway 138 district, and the Highway Corridor District. What we really saw is there's actual areas in the city where a property can be in all three of these, which [2:05:34, 2:05:54]: There isn't real guidance on which one should supersede. And the purpose of an overlay is that these are additional standards based upon the existing zoning district. So what we did is we began to look at them and we began to really combine those districts. [2:05:54, 2:06:14]: And we really wanted to focus on allowing that mixed-use development by right. We also wanted to make sure that properties where they would have the benefit, especially closer to the interstate and access that would be easier, that they could uh benefit from increased heights compared to other areas in the city. [2:06:14, 2:06:26]: And we also spelled out some reduction of parking, really more shared parking is what we're calling this. So when you do have a true mixed use development, you have different things that are happening all at different times. So [2:06:27, 2:06:31]: As residential, maybe out in the workforce. I know that's changing a little bit now. [2:06:32, 2:06:52]: From home. But you're also going to have restaurants and shopping and dining where people will just be walking instead of driving to and moving every step where they drive and where they visit. And then also including landscaping, lighting, architectural materials, things of all that. And we really went back and focused more. [2:06:52, 2:07:12]: Or on the guidelines that you had originally adopted recently on the, I believe it's, well, I'm not sure the name of it now, but I know it was called Jodoko Station at one time. I feel like I might not have the right one right now. But looking at what the staff and the city already approved there and really building upon. [2:07:12, 2:07:13]: On that. [2:07:14, 2:07:23]: And then if you can see in the green, those are going to be the new proposed overlay district standards and locations. [2:07:25, 2:07:45]: Um, and then if you recall, we did talk about creating that new downtown district. And you do have a downtown village overlay district, which was really just your historic downtown area. And we really kept that in place. We didn't want to convert every single parcel to that downtown one because you actually have a good variety and mix of. [2:07:44, 2:08:04]: Of residential, commercial, institutional, and actually a whole lot of recreation and open space. So we really wanted to keep that balance. So we did keep that overlay district, making sure that the permitted uses are still impact, allowing outside dining and special events, honing in on the architectural. [2:08:04, 2:08:14]: features and those permitted colors and materials, keeping the streetscape, the parking lot locations, and the height and the bulk standards. [2:08:16, 2:08:18]: Now this is the one thing that's a little new. [2:08:19, 2:08:39]: Um and what we did is when we did look at combining some of the overlays, we realized that you still have main corridors and we wanted to make sure that you could still feel that architectural fabric. You would know you're in the city of Stockbridge driving through it. [2:08:39, 2:08:59]: So, what we did is we really updated and almost created true citywide development standards for you. So, these are going to be architectural requirements on residential uses, on mixed-use buildings, and commercial buildings. And once again, we based a lot of this tech. [2:08:59, 2:09:19]: Technical design standards on those Jodico design guidelines. Also making sure that there's open space, outdoor lighting, and then that all of new construction on major highways will be required to have a 10-feet wide pedestrian travel zone and a 10-feet wide. [2:09:19, 2:09:27]: Feet wide planning fixture. And if you can really imagine that in your head, I know we talk a lot about what these words are, but that's really building your streetscape. [2:09:28, 2:09:43]: You know, so as you're driving the ro down the road, you would see the street trees, the lighting poles, the sidewalks. And then you would also have those architectural components from the um commercial buildings or residential buildings or whatever is being built in that area. [2:09:44, 2:10:04]: Um, kind of more a little bit of some housekeeping items. Um, we did review all of your zoning processes. Um, those are the ones you you handle every single day. We're actually part of this process right now. I know Breca and your planning commission are all on top of it regularly. And those are your rezonings, your conditional use permits, comprehensive. [2:10:04, 2:10:15]: of plans, text amendments, and variances. We really just reviewed and updated these as needed just to create some consistency throughout all the processes. [2:10:15, 2:10:16]: And make them harmonious. [2:10:18, 2:10:31]: Um, one new section um that we really did uh rewrite from scratch was actually your tree protection ordinance. Um I'm not sure if you knew this before, but they were really just a paper copy that were in the clerk's. [2:10:32, 2:10:43]: um office. So we really went through and looked at those industry standards and we spelled out the specifics on you know what an applicant needs to provide when it comes to the tree survey. [2:10:44, 2:10:48]: how they need to provide to protect those trees that they are willing to keep. [2:10:49, 2:11:09]: Um and also making sure that there are density and tree replacement requirements. So the idea is that no one can just come in and completely clear-cut a site. There will be trees that remain. There may be trees that they'll have to replant depending on what they remove. Just so you can keep that tree. [2:11:09, 2:11:14]: canopy and areas and then of course those um final inspection processes [2:11:15, 2:11:35]: Um, another one that really wasn't so clearly defined was your subdivision regulations. So we really went back through and really created those for you. And those are going to be your preliminary plat process, which you do all the time. So staff already knows how to do it. So you don't have to worry about that, but we really solidified it within the community. [2:11:35, 2:11:55]: code itself, the final plat process. And then we also built in the requirements that you had and some additional ones that we've been talking about when it comes to open space requirements, amenities in subdivisions, lighting in subdivisions, and things like that, just to make it clear within the code. [2:11:56, 2:12:16]: Um, your and you have another section that's all of your environmental protection. And really, what we did here is made sure that you met all of the federal and state standards. We really wanted to make sure you that you had overall compliance. So those are your soil erosion and sedimentation controls, uh, your floodplains, your stream bottoms. [2:12:16, 2:12:20]: offers your stormwater management and your illicit discharge. [2:12:21, 2:12:31]: Um and then one other thing that we really had to kind of really rewrite, but you you the code actually referenced Henry County standards. [2:12:32, 2:12:52]: But what we found is those standards have kind of been updated over the past two decades. We won't talk about how long. Um, but um your code reference data that was actually in the mid-90s. So we really went and we looked at what the the county codes were, and then we really adapted them and created them for. [2:12:52, 2:12:57]: you in the city of Stockbridge. So this is going to be your true roadway design and construction. [2:12:57, 2:13:13]: Um, when traffic studies should be implemented, access requirements, visibility, pedestrian access and sidewalks, street names, street lights. So now everything is in the code and everyone will be able to find it. [2:13:14, 2:13:20]: Um so here we are tonight. I know we met with several, so we do have um some [2:13:20, 2:13:40]: Some ordinances that we are updating from the comments received last week. And I believe we already have a meeting set with the attorneys on Thursday. So we will keep trucking along. Um, but the real purpose for here tonight is just to hear and open any public comment that may be out there. Um, because you know, I I promise you, and Miss Brecka knows this already. [2:13:40, 2:14:00]: We will be making changes probably right up to that solidification adoption date, which we currently have planned for October 26th. And that's okay though, because your ordinances should always be looked at and reviewed. And we really just want to make sure we get all of those items during this adoption. [2:14:00, 2:14:09]: And flush those all out from you as the counsel, from city staff, from the attorneys, and of course from the public, because we have engaged them this entire time. [2:14:10, 2:14:12]: So with that being said. [2:14:12, 2:14:16]: I'll I'll turn it back over to you, Mr. Mayer, I believe. [2:14:16, 2:14:23]: Thank you, KC. I appreciate your presentation. Council, any questions for KC? I see what okay, I see Mayor Potem, you're on muted. Go ahead, sir. [2:14:24, 2:14:33]: Yeah, I certainly appreciate that and I certainly appreciate the process, but in doing what we're doing, we we need to give a little bit more information to the public. [2:14:33, 2:14:36]: Because we get questions uh on a regular basis. [2:14:37, 2:14:40]: But I know this is already in there, so it's gonna be repetitive for you. [2:14:40, 2:14:42]: Sure. [2:14:42, 2:14:43]: What do we do about [2:14:44, 2:14:45]: You know. [2:14:45, 2:14:47]: Uh when uh properties are [2:14:47, 2:14:55]: dilapidated properties are are in and and how are they being dealt with? How are we getting to uh zero tolerance? [2:14:55, 2:14:56]: For [2:14:56, 2:14:58]: For businesses along corridors like [2:14:59, 2:15:03]: North Henry that are substandard, what are we doing to impact them? [2:15:03, 2:15:06]: Uh to move to a situation where [2:15:06, 2:15:09]: That behaviour is being corrected. [2:15:09, 2:15:14]: whether then that whether then being allowed to permeate or continue. [2:15:14, 2:15:16]: Let's talk about that. [2:15:16, 2:15:20]: Things like again, uh, you know, when you go in a shopping center parking lot. [2:15:20, 2:15:22]: And it's completely littered. [2:15:22, 2:15:25]: And and the parking lot has potholes in it. [2:15:25, 2:15:29]: Talk about those things that the public see every day. [2:15:29, 2:15:32]: And how and breck could probably be one to answer this and how [2:15:32, 2:15:35]: This new code is designed to impact. [2:15:35, 2:15:36]: D stings. [2:15:36, 2:15:39]: uh in uh in moving us forward [2:15:39, 2:15:42]: Ту імпроводи квалів. [2:15:42, 2:15:46]: and actually hold uh uh businesses accountable. [2:15:46, 2:15:49]: And for the increased appearance of our city. [2:15:50, 2:16:01]: Sure, no problem. So oh go ahead, Ns Barka. Okay. Um so so thank great question, um, and good to point out is it's kind of a two-pronged process. [2:16:01, 2:16:05]: So initially with the code we would set up um [2:16:05, 2:16:06]: We call [2:16:07, 2:16:08]: Awesome. So it's [2:16:08, 2:16:09]: Okay, okay. [2:16:11, 2:16:11]: Uh. [2:16:13, 2:16:15]: There's more time to come to roll. [2:16:16, 2:16:17]: There we go. [2:16:17, 2:16:18]: The folk park. [2:16:19, 2:16:20]: It's on you. [2:16:21, 2:16:21]: Maybe. [2:16:25, 2:16:27]: Miss pro Miss Johnson is going in and out. [2:16:27, 2:16:28]: I can't hear. [2:16:30, 2:16:33]: The shots you're going in and out. We kinda you lose the connection and you come back. [2:16:34, 2:16:35]: Um [2:16:35, 2:16:37]: Looks like you're frozen right now, actually. [2:16:46, 2:16:47]: Oh. [2:16:49, 2:16:51]: Bear with me for one moment. [2:16:53, 2:16:53]: Right. [2:16:56, 2:16:57]: Can you hear me now? [2:16:57, 2:17:01]: Hear you now, hopefully you'll stay there. [2:17:04, 2:17:05]: You muted. [2:17:21, 2:17:24]: Okay. Can you all hear me now? Yes, we can hear you now. Good deal. [2:17:29, 2:17:32]: Now it looks like you're frozen again. No, see muted. [2:17:33, 2:17:37]: I think she's trying to call from her phone, but she muted the phone as well. [2:17:40, 2:17:42]: Yes, um with a two prom [2:17:43, 2:17:47]: laws in which we are going to ensure that bring their property into compliance. [2:17:48, 2:17:59]: Additionally, our code enforcement process makes it so that we are continuing to manage our major [2:17:59, 2:18:03]: corridors throughout the city. Can you also hear me? [2:18:03, 2:18:04]: Go ahead, please. Go ahead. [2:18:04, 2:18:06]: We can hear you now. Go ahead. Okay. [2:18:08, 2:18:21]: Super. So we make it so the code enforcement effort makes it where we will ensure that we are continuing to monitor our major thoroughfares like North Henry Boulevard and 138 Eagles Landing and [2:18:22, 2:18:26]: looking at all the other all the businesses within those areas. [2:18:26, 2:18:37]: One of the things that I'm looking to implement and bring after we come conclude the UDC and zoning map process is to really look at our fee schedule. [2:18:38, 2:18:51]: We currently do not have a fee schedule in place for code enforcement, which means that we aren't able to enforce any type of additional fees for repeat offenders, folks who are either out of state, who are not complying with the code. [2:18:51, 2:19:11]: But we are going to go through the process to change that and bring that before you all. So we've got to look at it's a multifaceted process. Additionally, working with economic development for some opportunities for grants, for facade improvements. These are all things that we're working to ensure. [2:19:11, 2:19:16]: but that we're able to create a situation where people can update. [2:19:16, 2:19:27]: all of what they need to in order to um to bring properties under current compliance with the code. So that's that is that is what our goal is going forward. [2:19:28, 2:19:28]: Yeah. [2:19:30, 2:19:30]: Yeah. [2:19:31, 2:19:35]: Uh any other questions for uh Miss Johnson or for K C [2:19:38, 2:19:41]: Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please, sir. See I see you now, sir. Go ahead. [2:19:41, 2:19:43]: Thank you, thank you. [2:19:43, 2:19:44]: Um [2:19:44, 2:19:46]: I just wanna say um [2:19:47, 2:20:07]: I'm so appreciative of this process. I've advocated for this for about four years. And it took us to a point to get this. And where I'm going with this is um I've sort of been speaking about some of these issues. And Ms. Johnson, as you know, just in the last couple of days. [2:20:07, 2:20:14]: Uh Mayor Ford and I had a conversation with you about an issue that was um [2:20:15, 2:20:19]: Within the neighborhood that had been in in existence for about [2:20:19, 2:20:20]: Three weeks in [2:20:21, 2:20:23]: And you know, we didn't get a chance to cover that, but [2:20:24, 2:20:26]: The the point of my conversation is [2:20:27, 2:20:31]: And I want uh you and uh Ms. Ms. Cursis sort of speak to this. [2:20:32, 2:20:37]: When I look at the future of the sід of Stockbridge. [2:20:37, 2:20:42]: And the reason why I advocated for this process because I do understand [2:20:42, 2:20:44]: That we have to [2:20:44, 2:20:45]: Um [2:20:45, 2:20:46]: Create [2:20:47, 2:20:48]: The framework [2:20:48, 2:20:50]: And the twos [2:20:50, 2:20:52]: Ти то муви сити форва. [2:20:53, 2:20:53]: Um [2:20:55, 2:21:03]: We know that when developers come and we, you know, we've we've gone in and out of moratoriums, we've gone in and out of parking in the street. [2:21:03, 2:21:10]: Uh we didn't have the enforcement piece to it. We didn't have the touring piece to it. Um [2:21:10, 2:21:18]: You know, there was always holes uh in this process. And so I'm excited about this because again. [2:21:19, 2:21:23]: Um, and I advocate for planning for the future. [2:21:23, 2:21:26]: And I and I think this document here. [2:21:26, 2:21:31]: gives us, gives the city of Starkbridge that up to date. [2:21:31, 2:21:47]: um um framework in order for us to uh grow this city. Uh and then I'm excited about that. And the reason I'm sort of harping on this because um you know there's been some forums here recently um [2:21:48, 2:21:50]: Um in the community and [2:21:51, 2:21:52]: There is a notion. [2:21:53, 2:21:55]: Детисен [2:21:56, 2:21:58]: don't have an input into [2:21:59, 2:22:04]: uh what's going on in the city. And I just want you all to sort of to to speak to [2:22:04, 2:22:05]: Um [2:22:05, 2:22:25]: And I know you, you know, you you have done this before. So excuse me for asking you to do this again, but there are probably some citizens that that missed this because again, you know, uh this is some of the rhetoric that we hear that citizens don't have an input into these processes. And and we sort of know. And I [2:22:25, 2:22:45]: I know you all have done your due diligence in making sure that we've had the uh the hearing session. And just like tonight, you know, public hearing. So citizens do have an opportunity to have to be a part of this, but I just want you to sort of speak again uh to the uh process of citizens. [2:22:45, 2:22:51]: having input uh into these processes. And so I'll just talk about. [2:22:51, 2:22:59]: The reason why we are updating uh this code because we have to have these things in place in order for us to. [2:23:00, 2:23:18]: go forward and to build the city correctly. And as this document has to coincide with the comprehensive plan. So all of these things sort of go in together. And now Ms. Johnson, you may have said something earlier about, you know, there are a lot of pieces to the puzzle. [2:23:18, 2:23:22]: But I'm I'm excited about this, but I think we need to let the citizens. [2:23:22, 2:23:41]: understand and educate them just a little bit more of what this process entailed and how we are planning for the future. And once this document is updated, then when developers come and as we mentioned about the code enforcement piece and parking in the street and all these other things. [2:23:41, 2:24:01]: These are the tools, these are the entities that's going to be in place for us to really to grow and to build. So I just want to just dispel the notion that uh citizens do not have an input uh into this process and just talk about maybe you know the the purpose and the reason. [2:24:01, 2:24:05]: reason uh for this type of document, if you will. [2:24:07, 2:24:16]: Absolutely, Councilman Thomas. So thank you so much for that statement and for the support from you and from the other council members. [2:24:16, 2:24:29]: during this process. It's been a long kind of a long process. I know uh case can speak to um the specific meetings and um her involvement with the steering committee prior to my coming on board. [2:24:30, 2:24:38]: But we really have spent quite a bit of time trying to ensure that the customers know what's going on. And when I'm on the phone with a customer, [2:24:38, 2:24:42]: And I have my staff on the phone, we're talking about we have a new code coming. [2:24:42, 2:24:44]: And there are specific things that [2:24:45, 2:24:52]: You know, people have concerns about like fences, like parking on the street, like the width of the road, things like that we have. [2:24:55, 2:24:57]: To be very spot on and too. [2:24:58, 2:25:12]: And the public has been a part of this from the start. I'll kind of let Casey elaborate a little bit more on the specifics and how we have it set up for the zoning process to take place. [2:25:12, 2:25:32]: Sure, thank you very much. So we actually held three large community meetings and we also had a uh steering committee that was really representatives from the cities. Um so that was your engineers, your building officials, your planners of course. [2:25:32, 2:25:52]: Um the previous city manager was on that. And um right, wrong, or indifferent, I know nobody wants to believe it because I love zoning, but nobody really thinks of zoning. You know, who wakes up in the morning and thinks, oh, there's, you know, this this large book of words that I have to read about how my house is designed. [2:25:52, 2:26:12]: But really, it is the framework for what people will see, residents, just passers through of the city, on what they will see when that development happens. Unfortunately, we can't actually control property itself. You know, if we had a large expense account, you know, you could go buy the [2:26:12, 2:26:27]: Those lands and build exactly what it is. But through our public process, we really wanted to not only engage your citizens, but really educate them on the importance of zoning, because a process that may come in tomorrow. [2:26:27, 2:26:35]: Um may not even begin construction for another year, depending on the size of the development and those review processes. [2:26:36, 2:26:36]: So [2:26:37, 2:26:57]: Even through our first public meeting, we made sure that we engaged residents, that we really asked them um simple questions. And this may sound really simple, but you know, when it comes to dining, when it comes to shopping, you know, where do they go? If they're not shopping in Stockbridge or Henry County, where are they going? Because that kind of leads us to believe that they're [2:26:57, 2:27:17]: There's something missing. And of course, you're, you heard it. You're many of you were with us there. And I know we presented about the findings of the community. You know, they want those restaurants, they want those retail experiences. They want to have entertainment for kids, for adults, um, for everyone. They want to be able [2:27:17, 2:27:37]: To walk. They also um your residents were really involved in thinking and forward thinking at that about housing options and what they saw the future to be. Um so not only did we engage them on just simple questions of that, we actually pulled them through real visual pressure and surveys, you know, if we had this kind. [2:27:37, 2:27:57]: Commercial development, which architectural style do you like best? And as we went through that whole process, you'll see that really everything we focused on really got incorporated into these new regulations and updated regulations throughout this entire process. [2:27:57, 2:28:17]: And really the uh new zoning districts really came out of what we heard from the public so far about really focusing on the downtown. Everybody knew the amphitheater was coming. They could see it under construction, so it was still sharp in their mind. Um, and now you've reached that situation where it's open. So now it's really just adding those. [2:28:16, 2:28:36]: additional tools um looking at the properties around it how they could benefit from it what those transportation networks may look like what your streetscape may work like and how people would actually walk and access these places um so i know it's kind of hard um to really define sometimes because you're really [2:28:36, 2:28:38]: Really talking about [2:28:38, 2:28:50]: regulations that you may not ultimately be able to see on land, you know, tomorrow it could be five years down the road, but we're really focused on making sure that um [2:28:51, 2:29:11]: The city is recognized that when you come into the city, you know you've arrived in the city of Stockbridge. And you're not really wondering: oh, am I an unincorporated Henry? Am I another jurisdiction? And really making sure that it flows. And also understanding that there are new. [2:29:11, 2:29:19]: Types of commercial businesses. There are new types of constructions occurring everywhere. And we really want to make it um [2:29:20, 2:29:38]: uh easy i i say easy but really beneficial for both a developer and the city to get that higher standard of development that you are looking and searching and placing all of the importance in this code for. And we heard that throughout the public process. [2:29:38, 2:29:39]: Right. [2:29:39, 2:29:58]: Uh lastly, Mayor, if I may, uh is Mr. Aaron still on the call? Uh yes, he's still there. Um uh Mrs. Johnson, um, you don't have to elaborate on this, but the issue that um Mayor Ford and I brought to you a couple of days ago. [2:29:58, 2:30:01]: Um samwe samhao. [2:30:02, 2:30:05]: You know, we have to be able to catch. [2:30:05, 2:30:07]: Those kind of situations. [2:30:07, 2:30:09]: Uh that situation. [2:30:10, 2:30:10]: Um [2:30:11, 2:30:15]: had been in existence for about three weeks or a month. [2:30:15, 2:30:25]: And and no one from the city caught that. And I pointed out a a couple others. And I the reason I asked for Mr. Aaron, I know a few years ago. [2:30:25, 2:30:28]: А ви пчес. [2:30:29, 2:30:31]: And it was indicated then that [2:30:31, 2:30:32]: Um [2:30:32, 2:30:35]: This vehicle would be available. [2:30:35, 2:30:36]: To [2:30:37, 2:30:38]: Um catch. [2:30:38, 2:30:45]: uh some of those kind of situation miss johns you don't really have to get into this now you know if if you don't want to but [2:30:45, 2:30:47]: My only concern is [2:30:48, 2:30:50]: We have to have a presence. [2:30:50, 2:30:54]: And I and I know we're moving toward an adoption of this document. [2:30:55, 2:30:56]: But we still have to [2:30:57, 2:31:07]: uh exist, we still have to function. We still have to do what we need to do every day until this is adopted. So my concern is [2:31:08, 2:31:10]: We have to be able to catch. [2:31:11, 2:31:14]: These kind of incidents that that was existing. [2:31:14, 2:31:28]: For at least a month. And there may be others out there now because it is a reflection on all of us. And uh citizen was really upset about this particular incident and reading I asked for Mr. Aaron. [2:31:28, 2:31:29]: Um [2:31:29, 2:31:44]: Ms. Johnson, you and Mr. Aaron probably need to talk and talk about these kinds of situations because someone, uh whether it's public works, code enforcement, or a combination of both, have to take action. [2:31:44, 2:32:04]: uh to alleviate and to eradicate uh these kind of situations uh in the community and i'm sure miss johnson you went by and looked at that so you you saw the the um the gravity of that kind of situation that had been existing in the community so i'm going to close with that but i just want to [2:32:04, 2:32:09]: bring that to your attention in closing that we cannot let these kind of situation [2:32:10, 2:32:11]: Um just [2:32:12, 2:32:15]: You know, just just be there. We have to take action. [2:32:16, 2:32:16]: Thank you, Mayor. [2:32:17, 2:32:20]: Welcome, sir. Uh any other comments from the council? [2:32:22, 2:32:23]: Anybody else? [2:32:24, 2:32:32]: Okay, I won't see anybody at this at this time. All righty. So this is actually a this is actually a open a public uh hearing. [2:32:33, 2:32:53]: So what I'd like to do is on this particular topic, uh this first reading of the unified development code, I'd like to open up for any public comments if there's anybody online or ready in or in this or I guess standing by to make any uh comments for the UDC. And I I honestly I don't see those at this point. So I'm looking to [2:32:53, 2:33:13]: to UMs holiday and or our IT support to indicate whether or not there's someone that is uh in the in the queue at all. That's for this particular um UDC. There's no one in the Zoom queue, but um the PIO is monitoring Facebook as well for any questions. [2:33:13, 2:33:13]: Yeah. [2:33:13, 2:33:14]: Okay. [2:33:15, 2:33:18]: Well then if that's the case, uh then our PIO. [2:33:18, 2:33:30]: Um Shana, do you is there anybody that with anything that has anything uh for the public hearing that you can read or or somehow we can get that message uh for the positive in this aspect at all? [2:33:30, 2:33:33]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Not at this time, Mayor Ford. [2:33:33, 2:33:53]: Okay, if no comments on the positive side, then I'd like to open it up for anything on the negative side. Any comments per se that anybody would have against the UDC that that any anything that they want to say. Um so if Ms. Hallday you can't see that, I want to know from uh Miss Dorton whether or not there's anything on uh on on the uh on the website. [2:33:53, 2:33:58]: site or scream on Facebook or whatnot uh that is there to indicate any other comments. [2:33:58, 2:34:03]: On the negative side, same question for IT and PIO. [2:34:06, 2:34:06]: Anything at all? [2:34:09, 2:34:09]: No. [2:34:10, 2:34:11]: Okay. [2:34:11, 2:34:19]: And Miss Thornton, I'm imagining you have none as as well. Is that correct? Yes, sir. Not at this time. Okay, thank you. So on that note, then I'll close the public hearing. [2:34:19, 2:34:36]: And uh and council before uh this uh this is uh a reading, first reading, so we'll have another reading at the end of the month in our our council work session. So another comments from the council, and I'll move on to our next item for the public reading, uh our first reading. Okay, no other comments. All right, I'll move on. [2:34:36, 2:34:40]: This is the first reading. Council consideration approved City of Stockbridge adoption. [2:34:41, 2:34:42]: An official zoning map. [2:34:42, 2:34:59]: The City of Stockbridge Planning Commission and the City of Stockbridge Mayor City Council reviewed the proposed official zoning map to be amended in conjunction with the Unified Development Code UDC, which includes the City Zoning Ordinance. This item will run concurrently with the UDC. Ms. Johnson, please. [2:35:01, 2:35:13]: Absolutely. Thank you, Mayor and Council. So this particular item is a um part B uh to uh A1 and part N A and B. [2:35:13, 2:35:33]: And this, what this is, is the zoning map, which officially we need to update in order to coincide with the new UDC. Of course, we stated we condensed our 19 zoning districts into 13. And we and within that 13, we created a downtown district. So the zoning map is just reflected. [2:35:33, 2:35:39]: It is our visual to actually reflect those new zoning districts. [2:35:39, 2:35:44]: the conversion of existing zoning districts. [2:35:44, 2:35:51]: So um I'm I'd I'll pass it along to Casey if she has anything to to add um to this presentation. [2:35:52, 2:36:12]: Thank you very much. Actually, you said it most eloquently. If we're adopting a new zoning ordinance that has new districts in it, we therefore have to make sure that your map matches correctly. So hopefully you can see that. That is the proposed new zoning map. [2:36:12, 2:36:25]: And that will actually incorporate all of the uh zoning districts and the overlays that uh we just talked about that are written in text. So this is essentially the equivalent of the map. [2:36:28, 2:36:33]: Okay, thank you. Any questions, counsel for uh uh Casey andor Ms. Johnson? [2:36:37, 2:36:46]: Yeah, I don't see any hands at this point. Uh anybody at all? Okay. Yeah, seeing none. Okay, so this once again is a public hearing. [2:36:46, 2:36:54]: For the first reading. So I'd like to open this up for any public comments for uh positive questions in reference to the zoning map. [2:36:55, 2:37:07]: Once again, ladies, uh Ms. Holiday or uh also um uh Miss Thornton, whether or not you see anything uh out there for someone that wants to make a positive comment, uh citizens, uh in reference to the zoning map itself. [2:37:08, 2:37:11]: Question to IT and P I O. [2:37:17, 2:37:20]: I T anything that you see? [2:37:21, 2:37:23]: Uh Miss Thornton, anything you see at all? [2:37:23, 2:37:25]: on a for a positive comment. [2:37:26, 2:37:27]: Mayor not at this time. [2:37:27, 2:37:43]: Okay, so now we'll go to any negative comments, whether or not there are any negative comments or comments that someone is apprehensive about us doing this, if they have anything they need to say. Is anything um on on that side or the negative side? Once again, IT and you know and the PIO. [2:37:49, 2:37:53]: Mayor Ford, this is public information officer, not at this time for Facebook. [2:37:54, 2:37:55]: Okay. [2:37:56, 2:37:56]: No. [2:37:56, 2:38:15]: Okay, all right, then thank you. So there are no positive for or against uh this aspect of the zoning map. So I'll close the public hearing and uh council. This is our first reading, so we'll have a second reading at the end of our end of the month. There are no further comments, we'll move on to the new business. And new business starts with council consideration. [2:38:15, 2:38:27]: To approve ratification of emergency information technology equipment purchased for the amphitheater complex in the amount of fifty one thousand two hundred ninety-three dollars and twenty cents from SHI. Mr. Wiggins, please. [2:38:29, 2:38:30]: Yes, um [2:38:31, 2:38:34]: Mayor and Council, the IT department is requesting ratification. [2:38:34, 2:38:36]: Of an emergency [2:38:36, 2:38:37]: IT purchase. [2:38:38, 2:38:40]: For the amphitheater complex. [2:38:40, 2:38:43]: The net were infrastructure in the amount of sixty one thousand. [2:38:44, 2:38:47]: Two hundred and ninety-three dollars and twenty cents from SHI. [2:38:48, 2:38:50]: The network equipment was critical. [2:38:52, 2:38:53]: Um to the opening. [2:38:54, 2:38:56]: It had it had um [2:38:57, 2:38:57]: Uh [2:38:58, 2:39:03]: Something to do with uh audio and TV, the security and the internet infrastructure. [2:39:06, 2:39:12]: And we're and we're asking for you just to ratif ratify because it was an emergency purchase at the time. [2:39:12, 2:39:21]: Well, uh Mr. Wiggins, just in case. Now, I I've I read what I had in front of me was fifty one thousand. I think you said sixty one. So which which is a correct number, sir? I just need clarification on that. [2:39:23, 2:39:26]: I have sixty one thousand two hundred and ninety-three dollars and twenty cents. [2:39:27, 2:39:36]: All right. All right. Well, I have a misprint, I suppose, then but I have fifty one thousand in my reading. But okay. So it's sixty one. So you can verify sixty one. So be it. [2:39:39, 2:39:42]: All right, council. Any any questions for Mr. Go ahead, Mr. Blount. [2:39:43, 2:39:48]: Well Ms. Wigan, this this these are funds that are already been expended. Right. [2:39:48, 2:39:49]: Yes. [2:39:49, 2:40:01]: Well, m Mr. Knight, um um I mean that's nothing to say, but uh I'd like to go ahead and approve the uh council considerate to approve the ratification of the emergency uh information uh technology equipment purchase for sixty-one thousand. [2:40:01, 2:40:06]: Uh two hundred ninety three dollars and twenty cents. I mean it's already been spent. Well I mean what are we gonna do? [2:40:07, 2:40:08]: All right, the motion was made. Is there a second? [2:40:09, 2:40:10]: A second. [2:40:10, 2:40:12]: Can't second any further conversation or discussion. [2:40:14, 2:40:15]: If not on favor, please indicate. [2:40:18, 2:40:23]: Okay. Uh okay, m okay, so it's an ambition decision. Thank you very much. All right, Mr. Wiggins, appreciate it. All right. [2:40:25, 2:40:30]: Council consideration improved site engineering to perform stormwater improvements. Uh [2:40:30, 2:40:44]: One hundred, one thousand, hundred, well, wait a minute. Along, excuse me, uh stormwater improvements along one oh one, one oh three, and one hundred five turning point in the amount of seventy-five thousand four hundred five hundred and forty dollars, funding source, American Rescue Plan Act. [2:40:44, 2:40:46]: Fantastic. Uh Mr. Aaron, please. [2:40:47, 2:41:04]: Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. This is a project that will resolve a stormwater issue that we have along the rear of these properties and keep some yards from being flooded with stormwater. So we're using our own call water and sewer contracts to make these repairs. [2:41:06, 2:41:08]: Any questions for Ms. Aaron Council? [2:41:10, 2:41:11]: Uh, Ms. Barber Gray, please. [2:41:11, 2:41:20]: I just want to hear Mr. Aaron uh reiterate um the funding source for this. It's coming from opera funds. [2:41:20, 2:41:25]: American rescue funds. So we'll be actually embersed reimbursed. [2:41:26, 2:41:28]: For this expenditure, correct. [2:41:28, 2:41:32]: Yes, ma'am. And what's the amount of this again? [2:41:32, 2:41:35]: Seventy five thousand five hundred and forty dollars. [2:41:35, 2:41:40]: Thank you, sir. Mayor Ford, I'd like to make a motion if there are no other questions. [2:41:40, 2:41:43]: Motion's been made uh to accept this proposal. Is there a second? [2:41:43, 2:41:44]: I see. [2:41:45, 2:41:49]: Okay, Miss Gantt, second that and if no further discussion, all favor, please indicate. [2:41:50, 2:41:53]: All right, got a unanimous decision. Okay, appreciate it. Thank you very much. [2:41:55, 2:42:11]: Council consideration approved site engineering to perform stonewater improvements along 904 Needletop Court and 817 Rock Lane in the amount of$26,514. Once again, funding source, American Rescue Plan Act. Mr. Aarons, please. [2:42:11, 2:42:23]: Yes, Mayor and Council. This is another project that will resolve a stormwater issue at 904 Needletop. Uh uh property is flooding due to stormwater, so this will resolve that problem. [2:42:25, 2:42:27]: Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [2:42:28, 2:42:32]: Yeah, I'd like to go ahead and motion to approve the twenty-six thousand six hundred and fourteen dollars. [2:42:32, 2:42:33]: For funding for the need of [2:42:33, 2:42:35]: Uh need a top court uh project. [2:42:37, 2:42:37]: Okay. [2:42:38, 2:42:44]: Okay. No problem. Uh thank you, Ms. Gantt. Second that motion that Mr. Blount put in action. Mr. Thomas, please. [2:42:44, 2:42:46]: You had a question or you just vote give me a vote? [2:42:46, 2:42:47]: All favor, please indicate. [2:42:49, 2:42:54]: Fantastic. Unanimous decision on that. Okay, good deal. Thank you very much. All right. [2:42:56, 2:43:05]: Council consideration to approve CNC fence to install 354 linear feet of fencing at the Public Works Administration Building. [2:43:05, 2:43:08]: An amount of thirty two thousand one hundred and seventy dollars. [2:43:08, 2:43:12]: A funding source, Department General Fund Budget. Uh Mr. Aaron, please. [2:43:13, 2:43:29]: Yes, Ms. Mayor and Council. Uh staff is requesting that we uh install additional fencing at the Public Works Administration building. We've had numerous burglaries and break-ins since the project started. And in fact, on September 29th, we came in to work. [2:43:29, 2:43:49]: And found a car parked inside the maintenance shop that had broken through some gates. So the building is kind of out of the way. So we just want to add an additional layer of security because once we move in, we'll have vehicles parked in at the facility as well. So uh CNC fencing installed the initial fencing with the contract. [2:43:49, 2:44:05]: built the building but uh we wanted to go directly to CNC ourself and not have to pay a markup for the contractor to install the additional fencing. So we're just asking to be able to install additional fencing and another gate for security reasons at the building. [2:44:05, 2:44:11]: Am I to assume that uh you got a we have a police report on all this stuff? Yes, sir, we do. [2:44:11, 2:44:23]: Okay. All right. And and you no one's been caught thus far. No one's been arrested or anything like that? No, sir. They they told the car out of there, had a Rockdale County uh tag on it. That's the only information we had. [2:44:24, 2:44:29]: And so we're still reviewing camera footage because we do have cameras at the maintenance shop. So we're still [2:44:30, 2:44:31]: Going through the camera footage. [2:44:32, 2:44:36]: Thank you. Uh Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead. It seemed like you had your head up first there. [2:44:37, 2:44:43]: Yes. Uh I'm disturbed by what you just said, which is there's been numerous break ins. How what [2:44:44, 2:44:50]: This is the first that I'm hearing about this. So talk about that. So we got a city facility. [2:44:51, 2:44:53]: That's obviously marked city facility. [2:44:53, 2:44:57]: And we we're having somebody repeatedly break in this facility. [2:44:58, 2:45:03]: This this was during the construction phase, you know, some of the materials and supplies people love. [2:45:04, 2:45:06]: Air conditioning and copper wiring and [2:45:07, 2:45:13]: pipes and things of that nature. So the break-ins occurred while it was under the control of the contractor. They had [2:45:13, 2:45:30]: on several occasions. You know that VP on East Atlanta Road has been burglarized numerous times. So that building is behind the BP. So and it's out of the way and several times we've gone down. I've gone down on my way into work early in the morning you see cars parked back there with [2:45:30, 2:45:40]: No business being back there, but we just want to have another layer of security. We do have lighting back there, but as I said, it's out of the way and isolated from the main flow of traffic. [2:45:40, 2:45:52]: Boy, you sure are hearing about a lot of things I haven't heard of. So the BP been burglarized now too. So they've been burglared that you said several times. So who where are you getting this? They told you that when you go in there, they've been burglarized several times? [2:45:53, 2:46:01]: Oh well we've seen the police down there. We talked to the courts because you know we buy most of us purchase our fuel from the BP station, so [2:46:03, 2:46:23]: And and this is something that I want to make sure because I think a lot of times this stuff like this happens and bubbles up to the surface. This is something that we as council uh should be made aware of. If we got somebody breaking into a city facility, stealing materials or whatever that may be, I certainly would like to be made aware of that. [2:46:23, 2:46:26]: And then, you know, from time to time I'm hearing [2:46:26, 2:46:38]: that we have these robberies and these break ins and nobody that's not bubbling up to me. I'm I don't know about the rest of you all. I hear about things like I heard about the business owner getting robbed on TV. [2:46:38, 2:46:39]: How is it that [2:46:40, 2:46:58]: What can we do that we communicate to law enforcement, but that we need to be a point of order of these can we can we either prove this or disapprove and then I mean I'm talking about an issue that's central to what's going on right now. What what is it that we can do to get some of this bulk we are aware of it? [2:46:59, 2:47:03]: That standby point. What we would do, what we would do. [2:47:03, 2:47:08]: and other cases for other issues has nothing to do with approving this fence right now. [2:47:08, 2:47:21]: We either get a lot of people. You're not concerned about the BP being robbed multiple times. Mr. Alexander, I'm very concerned, but I'm talking about the business at hand. We have to have some type of order in this meeting. And that's what would let's deal with this and then we'll deal with that later. [2:47:22, 2:47:24]: I mean it's not gonna go anywhere, it's not gonna change. [2:47:25, 2:47:29]: I mean the citizens don't want to hear uh they they ready for us to deal with the agenda. [2:47:29, 2:47:38]: All right. Got it. Um, we'll move on. Any other comments on reference to what's on the agenda to talk about in reference to security of the fence for the public works department? [2:47:39, 2:47:48]: If they're not, I need a motion to accept uh the proposal, Mr. Aaron, prevent prevent it, present presented. So move, Ms. Gans so move. There's a second. [2:47:48, 2:47:51]: All right, Mr. Blount second in all in favor, please indicate. [2:47:52, 2:47:55]: Okay, looks like a generic side. Thank you very much. We'll move on. [2:47:56, 2:47:57]: Thank you, Sor. [2:47:59, 2:48:10]: Council consideration approved extension of uh request for uh proposal RFP number 18 RFP 103018 DRR. [2:48:10, 2:48:28]: MSI Benefits Group Incorporated. The Human Resources Department is requesting approval to extend RFP 18, RFP 103018-DRR broker services for health insurance for MSB MSI benefits group. [2:48:28, 2:48:47]: Uh incorporated approved by the council on the 31st of January 2019, R19 desk 1027. The contract terms include one year with a two year, with a two one-year renewable options. Ms. Miller, please, along with the Ms. Willer, please. Thank you. [2:48:47, 2:48:55]: Good afternoon, Mayor Council. Um, as stated, the Human Resources Department is requesting approval to extend the contract awarded pursuant to the RFP. [2:48:56, 2:49:14]: Uh 18 RFP 103018 DRR broker services for health insurance for MSI benefits, which was approved by council. As stated, the contract was awarded for one year and it did have an option to renew for two one-year periods. Currently there are no renewals remaining. [2:49:14, 2:49:20]: So the human resources department is requesting a contract extension through December 31st. [2:49:20, 2:49:23]: Twenty twenty three, uh just a little bit about this contract. [2:49:24, 2:49:27]: Basically, um this is a broker services for health insurance with MSI. [2:49:28, 2:49:32]: Uh benefits group pro which provides the city with a consultant that offers. [2:49:32, 2:49:38]: review of the city's health benefits and assess opportunities for improvement of in cost savings. [2:49:38, 2:49:51]: guidance regarding the most advantageous um information concerning insurance markets from standpoints of cost service and coverages uh basically the [2:49:52, 2:49:57]: RFP was solicited um back in 2018 by my prede predecessor. [2:49:58, 2:50:03]: And on January 28, 2019, the city manager submitted the agenda. [2:50:03, 2:50:04]: For approval. [2:50:05, 2:50:10]: And um just to add, the city attorney has reviewed and approved this council recommendation for him. [2:50:13, 2:50:21]: Okay, council, any questions for Ms. Miller about this uh benefits uh uh information here for the staff, for the employees? Yes, Ms. Barber Goya, please. [2:50:22, 2:50:28]: Wanted to ask Ms. Wheeler. Um, so what Ms. Miller just said was this. [2:50:29, 2:50:30]: The original [2:50:30, 2:50:31]: Контракт воз [2:50:32, 2:50:33]: Signed in twenty eighteen. [2:50:34, 2:50:35]: Or twenty nineteen. [2:50:36, 2:50:37]: Twenty eighteen. [2:50:37, 2:50:39]: Okay. I believe. [2:50:40, 2:50:43]: So we have not gone back out to. [2:50:43, 2:50:47]: Um, see what the market looks like as far as these services. [2:50:48, 2:50:50]: We use a broker for that. [2:50:50, 2:50:52]: Part we would use a broker for that. [2:50:52, 2:50:55]: Our broker that we currently have goes out to the market. [2:50:56, 2:50:57]: And [2:50:57, 2:50:59]: markets the benefits [2:51:00, 2:51:03]: And comes back to us with a proposal. [2:51:03, 2:51:06]: Which you uh received back at the budget retreat. [2:51:07, 2:51:08]: On the uh [2:51:09, 2:51:11]: benefits package that we currently have. [2:51:12, 2:51:14]: So we use a broker to do that. [2:51:14, 2:51:21]: Okay, so what is this contract specifically? This is the contract to recontinue with the broker that we have on record. [2:51:22, 2:51:25]: To continue to provide the benefit services. [2:51:25, 2:51:26]: that we currently have. [2:51:26, 2:51:28]: Okay, so it's for broker services. [2:51:29, 2:51:31]: Yeah. Okay. [2:51:31, 2:51:34]: Have we have we ever compared the cost? [2:51:34, 2:51:37]: Um for these brokers, I'm just curious. [2:51:37, 2:51:41]: There is no cost for the broker. The broker just provides the services. [2:51:42, 2:51:43]: They [2:51:44, 2:51:46]: Commission is paid by the [2:51:46, 2:51:46]: Vendor. [2:51:47, 2:51:50]: So we utilize them to be a [2:51:50, 2:51:52]: Arm to the HR department. [2:51:52, 2:51:55]: Where they administer our benefits. [2:51:55, 2:51:58]: So they are cut acting as our benefits administrator. [2:51:58, 2:52:01]: instead of that being in ho in house. [2:52:02, 2:52:06]: Okay. So you're just requesting that we extend this until the end of next year. [2:52:07, 2:52:07]: Correct. [2:52:07, 2:52:13]: Okay, so next year we're gonna be looking to compare the cost with another broker or another. [2:52:14, 2:52:20]: If it depends on um it really depends. MSI benefits provides a great service to us. [2:52:20, 2:52:25]: And with the service that they do provide, they're able to go out to market and bring us the best. [2:52:25, 2:52:27]: costs benefit based on our [2:52:28, 2:52:30]: employee population and our claims. [2:52:31, 2:52:32]: So thank you. [2:52:32, 2:52:37]: What is it that they are able to do better than what GMA? [2:52:37, 2:52:41]: could do for us because I know GMA also offers. [2:52:42, 2:52:43]: benefit services. [2:52:46, 2:52:48]: Well, I I mean I've preferred the MSI. [2:52:51, 2:52:52]: But [2:52:52, 2:52:55]: Okay, so how do I know what is the best? [2:52:56, 2:52:58]: approach if we're not comparing [2:52:59, 2:53:01]: What this current broker is providing. [2:53:01, 2:53:03]: Versus what GMA [2:53:03, 2:53:07]: and the services that they provide. How do we know which is best? [2:53:08, 2:53:11]: Well, it's best on the premium that we receive. [2:53:11, 2:53:16]: Um the count the city had GMA at one point moved away from that. [2:53:16, 2:53:19]: And uh we've went out to on [2:53:19, 2:53:23]: On bid for services okay and um GMA. [2:53:24, 2:53:28]: has not provided um did not provide anything to us [2:53:29, 2:53:37]: So we have used GMA in the past. So you were able to prior prior to me coming on board, I understand that the city possibly had GMA. [2:53:38, 2:53:39]: Okay, thank you. [2:53:41, 2:53:44]: Any other questions uh for the ladies here, council? [2:53:45, 2:53:46]: Ms. Blount, go ahead, please. [2:53:48, 2:54:07]: Yeah, from my understanding, I think at the uh budget ret at the retreat also, uh, it wasn't advised for us to dip back into trying to um with um with the information that were given us to dip back into trying to go and bid do other bidding and uh for uh for as um [2:54:07, 2:54:15]: policies and stuff. I mean, I don't want to get into that, but I I like to go ahead and approve the uh council consideration, approve the extension request proposal. [2:54:16, 2:54:19]: Okay, and made that a motion. Is there a second to the motion? [2:54:19, 2:54:22]: My second. Ms. Gantt second any further discussion. [2:54:23, 2:54:25]: If not all flavored a motion, please indicate. [2:54:26, 2:54:29]: I see looks like is it uh [2:54:29, 2:54:38]: I can't see Mr. Thomas. I abstained. Okay, Miss Barber abstains. Mr. Blount says yes. Gantt says yes. Alexander, sir, Mayor Pro Tem. [2:54:39, 2:54:40]: What do you vote, sir? [2:54:41, 2:55:00]: I'm just a little confused about the fact that we did not go back to um GMA or we did not get a um is it possible to even get a quote from GMA to see where they are to compare to what the final outcome is? What not at this stage, Mr. Alexander, we cannot. [2:55:01, 2:55:05]: We already have our benefits ready to go for January first. [2:55:05, 2:55:10]: Mm-hmm. GMA starts their package on July first. They are in a different [2:55:10, 2:55:14]: Um fiscal year than we have, so we would have to wait till next year. [2:55:14, 2:55:16]: In order to go to GMA to get [2:55:16, 2:55:18]: What their prices are for the [2:55:18, 2:55:20]: Um cost of there. [2:55:20, 2:55:22]: Health insurance to make a comparison. [2:55:24, 2:55:29]: At this point, you won't, if you don't go with them, you won't have any benefits come January 1st. [2:55:30, 2:55:30]: All right. [2:55:30, 2:55:39]: Once again, Miss Okay, I'll stand by stand by. Hold on a second. Mr. Thomas, uh I think that answers your question, Alexander. I hope anyway. Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. [2:55:39, 2:55:42]: Yeah, I I want to just confirm, uh seeming like I heard um [2:55:43, 2:55:46]: Two dates the end of twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three. [2:55:47, 2:55:49]: Uh which which is it? [2:55:53, 2:55:57]: The HR department wanted it to be extended through twenty-three. [2:56:00, 2:56:20]: Okay, good. Could we extend it through to the mayor? I'm sorry. I know what he's gonna say is that we had a motion on the floor. I asked for discuss a second, I asked for discussion and went to the vote and then we started discussing. So what it amounts to is that the motion does still still on the floor and we it's a second, but if we I asked for discussion earlier, but we went to I'm okay. [2:56:20, 2:56:25]: with the discussion mayor. I mean I I just want the council to have a full understanding of what's at hand here. [2:56:26, 2:56:28]: Uh the budget retreat. [2:56:28, 2:56:33]: We was told we was told that what was at hand at the budget retreat and when we approved [2:56:33, 2:56:36]: Uh, this at the budget retreat. [2:56:36, 2:56:41]: Only thing was to do was to come here and finalize it after everything was made up. [2:56:41, 2:56:49]: And written up and set up by the broker and HR. So now we got to this point where if we don't do this tonight. [2:56:49, 2:56:52]: Then then we find ourselves in in a predicament. [2:56:52, 2:56:58]: These and this goes back to what I was saying. Their conversations about things that we've approved. [2:56:58, 2:57:06]: That needs to be had those conversations prior to approving them out front in order to push those things forward. Because this was a this. [2:57:07, 2:57:09]: was actually approved by the whole council as a whole. [2:57:10, 2:57:12]: At the budget retreat, we all approve this. [2:57:13, 2:57:16]: And now we're sitting here questioning something that we [2:57:16, 2:57:27]: At this point, where now if we don't approve it, we won't even have insurance in January. We got to we have to have these discussions prior to council meetings. [2:57:28, 2:57:30]: And we all approve this already. [2:57:31, 2:57:36]: Uh Mr. Mayor, I I I believe I had the floor. May I finish? Yeah, go ahead, sir. [2:57:36, 2:57:41]: Okay, I'm I'm asking because I've I've heard conflict and dates. [2:57:41, 2:57:44]: I've heard, I think, Mrs. Wheeler say [2:57:45, 2:57:48]: Twenty twenty two, Miss Mill said twenty twenty three. [2:57:48, 2:57:50]: I just want to confirm which is it. [2:57:52, 2:57:55]: The agenda reads the agenda reads twenty three. [2:57:57, 2:58:00]: Okay, and and and the renewal is with Cigna. [2:58:02, 2:58:05]: We're renewing the we're using the current broker services. [2:58:07, 2:58:10]: That is what the renewal is with MSI benefits. [2:58:10, 2:58:11]: Okay. [2:58:13, 2:58:16]: Thank you. You've already approved the Cigna. [2:58:17, 2:58:18]: Uh [2:58:18, 2:58:20]: benefits at the budget retreat. [2:58:21, 2:58:23]: When the presentation was given. [2:58:23, 2:58:24]: Thank you. [2:58:26, 2:58:27]: All right. Um [2:58:27, 2:58:36]: But back to Ms. Barber, I guess here. You had a question then, I suppose. I know I thought we were all getting already voted. I wanted to give an explanation for my [2:58:37, 2:58:42]: Me abstaining. Okay, stand stand by please. Mayor Pro Tem, are you satisfied now? Are you you ready? You ready? [2:58:43, 2:58:43]: You good? [2:58:46, 2:58:52]: I I just want confirmation that there's no I mean, uh Miss Wheeler just said we're not gonna have insurance and we don't [2:58:53, 2:58:55]: move forward with it. So at this point there's no [2:58:56, 2:58:58]: Room for any time. [2:58:58, 2:59:08]: to e even research whether or not um DMA or to be able to uh change the date to twenty twenty two so next year we could get a um [2:59:09, 2:59:12]: uh estimate from GMA instead of extending it for two years. [2:59:14, 2:59:21]: All right. The motion was was made and it was seconded motion made by Councilman Blount. Um and the second was made by Councilman Gann, I believe. Is that correct? [2:59:22, 2:59:31]: Okay. And Miss Holday, you you got the motion. You understand that? Yes, I do. That is the motion. Okay. All right. Now we'll try this again. All in favor of motion, please indicate. [2:59:32, 2:59:32]: One, two. [2:59:34, 2:59:35]: Two, four. [2:59:36, 2:59:40]: Two for the motion. Uh uh anybody against the motion. [2:59:42, 2:59:45]: Okay. One against is abstain abstention? [2:59:47, 2:59:48]: Two extensions. [2:59:49, 2:59:59]: Now you realize by two one two, that means that if that's this fails, then that means uh we we have no insurance for our employees. I'm gonna make an alternative motion. [2:59:59, 3:00:03]: No, bear forward. Stand by. Stand by. [3:00:03, 3:00:08]: Uh stand by. Miss Barber, you want to explain something about the why you're abstaining, I suppose. [3:00:08, 3:00:20]: Yes, I don't like the council being put in these kinds of situations. Um, when we know we need to make a decision like this, I don't like feeling pressured to make a decision. We need to be able to compare the cost. [3:00:21, 3:00:25]: I know that our insurance or health care is through Cigna. [3:00:26, 3:00:29]: If we approved anything, it was Signa, our health care. [3:00:30, 3:00:34]: This broker is something completely separate. We can find another broker. [3:00:35, 3:00:38]: However, what is presented to us today is this. [3:00:39, 3:00:39]: M S I [3:00:40, 3:00:41]: What I'm asking. [3:00:42, 3:00:43]: I'd like to see [3:00:43, 3:00:44]: Um [3:00:44, 3:00:45]: The cost [3:00:45, 3:00:47]: Um compared. [3:00:47, 3:00:50]: I want to see what it looks like. [3:00:50, 3:00:52]: with GMA and what they offer. [3:00:53, 3:00:54]: And [3:00:54, 3:00:57]: maybe MSI and any other broker. [3:00:58, 3:00:59]: I wanna see. [3:00:59, 3:01:02]: So I think what you have to understand is that we're [3:01:03, 3:01:06]: Way too late to do that at this process. [3:01:07, 3:01:12]: If this was going to be done, I mean, we went through the budget retreat. We had MSI. [3:01:12, 3:01:18]: Who is our broker who provides the benefit services for us? He goes out to market. [3:01:18, 3:01:26]: And he came back with the cost so that we would not have such an increase in our premiums by staying with Cygna. [3:01:26, 3:01:29]: Now what we need here is just basically [3:01:29, 3:01:40]: to continue the contract as it was in the RFP in twenty eighteen, to continue with the current broker as is. And if you choose to go out [3:01:40, 3:01:51]: next year and you want to do a comparison, we can do that at that time. But since we're on an annual basis for our benefits and not on a July 1st to a June 30th. [3:01:52, 3:01:54]: Which is what GMA is on. [3:01:54, 3:01:57]: It would be difficult at this time. [3:01:57, 3:01:58]: To come back, to go out. [3:01:59, 3:02:11]: to get costs and then to come back and to provide a benefit package for the uh employees. With our claims history as high as it is this time, our premiums will be very high. [3:02:11, 3:02:18]: Right. And I understand that. I know that when the gentleman came and spoke with us, he spoke to us about our health care benefits. [3:02:19, 3:02:36]: He didn't speak to us about broker services. Okay, but it's all that is what we use. We use a broker to provide healthcare benefits. I understand that, but my point is when we know that we have contracts that are going to expire. [3:02:37, 3:02:38]: Please. [3:02:38, 3:02:40]: Do your due diligence. [3:02:40, 3:02:43]: Bring me comparable. I want to be able to see. [3:02:44, 3:02:47]: I want to be able to make the decision based on the information. [3:02:48, 3:02:49]: That is presented to you. [3:02:49, 3:03:02]: I don't want it to appear as though now my back is up against the wall. Now I have to make a decision. Absolutely not. This council has the right to make a decision. I know timing is important. [3:03:02, 3:03:14]: When these items are presented to us, all I'm asking is that staff do their due diligence first, bring that to us, allow us to make the decision on who we want to go with. [3:03:14, 3:03:15]: But [3:03:15, 3:03:18]: We're now here. We're here now and I don't [3:03:18, 3:03:23]: I don't feel comfortable with just extending something just because um [3:03:24, 3:03:27]: This contract is going to end in a couple of months. [3:03:27, 3:03:29]: So I'm just abstaining. [3:03:29, 3:03:32]: For that reason. I hope that next year. [3:03:32, 3:03:45]: that before um May or June, whenever GMA their benefits rolled out, that we're able to get prices so that we can compare the cost. That's all I'm saying. [3:03:45, 3:03:53]: It's not that I'm against MSI. I'm not. I want to be able to have something to compare it with. And I don't. That's all. [3:03:54, 3:03:58]: Stand by Mr. Blount. Mr. Thomas, you had something, sir, earlier? Well [3:03:58, 3:04:05]: And and I guess I I know we'll approve Signa, but the the whole issue of MSI and I I guess the overall [3:04:06, 3:04:08]: Concern I have is [3:04:09, 3:04:11]: And and and I mentioned this earlier. [3:04:11, 3:04:15]: It just seemed to be not enough information. [3:04:15, 3:04:16]: available, you know. [3:04:17, 3:04:20]: So MSI was the only broker that that came forward. [3:04:20, 3:04:31]: And as Ms. uh Councilwoman Bar, we we don't have anything to compare with. And and it just seemed that this is always, you know, it's the same problem. And I don't know what council can say. [3:04:31, 3:04:36]: uh to get us past you know this this this point right here. [3:04:37, 3:04:38]: Um [3:04:39, 3:04:44]: You know, and I understand the deadlines and those kind of thing, but we just keep running into the same wall. [3:04:45, 3:04:48]: And uh it just leaves us in a position of [3:04:48, 3:04:49]: You know [3:04:50, 3:04:51]: Well, we don't have a choice. [3:04:53, 3:04:54]: It's a black way, please. [3:04:56, 3:04:57]: Uh Miss Wheeler. [3:04:58, 3:05:02]: Was that Msi that gave us the presentation at the budget retreat? [3:05:03, 3:05:04]: Yes, yes, sir. [3:05:04, 3:05:13]: So MSI gave us a presentation at the budget retreat. So it's no, it's no secret that they're the they were the ones going to be doing this. No secret. [3:05:14, 3:05:17]: No secret. What they prov what I think the council doesn't understand. [3:05:18, 3:05:21]: Let me say every single council member here. [3:05:21, 3:05:24]: Got the same presentation from this broker. [3:05:25, 3:05:26]: Okay. [3:05:27, 3:05:36]: One of the things this city probably needs to do is get rid of every department here that are making decisions because this council wants to manage and be the elected body. [3:05:37, 3:05:48]: We sit here as a whole. Every single council member on here voted with this broker and said, okay, to what's being brought forward. Now you just said. [3:05:49, 3:05:54]: that we can go and revisit this in a year with this broker. [3:05:54, 3:06:13]: But this broker is the one that brought the brought the proposal of what we were going to do right now forward. It makes no sense. So now you got the team going to do their thing and going through what they're going through. Now it's a problem right now when this this council sit here and approved it with this broker. [3:06:13, 3:06:15]: It makes no sense to me. [3:06:18, 3:06:19]: All right. Um [3:06:20, 3:06:21]: Any further comment. [3:06:24, 3:06:28]: I I would just like to say that the what the broker provides is a service. [3:06:29, 3:06:32]: The broker provides a service to the HR. [3:06:32, 3:06:33]: Department. [3:06:34, 3:06:36]: to administer their benefits. [3:06:36, 3:06:39]: That is all they provide. They come. [3:06:39, 3:06:44]: They give us information regarding the service that they can provide. [3:06:44, 3:06:47]: What I look for is if they can do an online portal. [3:06:48, 3:06:59]: Can they do booklets, which you receive every year? Can they provide benefit statements? Those are the services that they provide to the HR department. [3:07:00, 3:07:17]: They also have the ability to work with various vendors, Cigna, Blue Cross, Blue Shield, Humana, Aetna, whoever will go out when they go out to the market, who wants the book of business based on our employment. [3:07:17, 3:07:23]: Population based on our claims history. They come back with the premium. [3:07:23, 3:07:41]: that will be paid by those services. And that is what he presented to you all at the budget retreat to let you know if we stay with Cygna and have their business, this is how much the cost will be to the city based on premiums. [3:07:41, 3:07:53]: Now, yes, he could have gone out and had Blue Cross, Blue Shield if they would bid on us, but they're because we're so small, there's a very limited number of vendors. [3:07:53, 3:07:55]: That will come or [3:07:56, 3:07:59]: Medical providers that will come in. [3:07:59, 3:08:01]: Give us a a cost. [3:08:02, 3:08:03]: For our uh [3:08:03, 3:08:05]: For our premiums. [3:08:06, 3:08:07]: So that is how it's done. [3:08:09, 3:08:11]: So Signa came back. [3:08:11, 3:08:19]: Would not increase the benefits but a certain percentage. And we decided to go with Signer for all of our benefit package. [3:08:21, 3:08:35]: MSI acts as the go-between between those various benefit providers. That's all they do. And they provide those services to HR and they handle all the benefits so that it is not a burden to the [3:08:35, 3:08:36]: HR department. [3:08:38, 3:08:45]: They're an extension as if you had your own benefit department in-house, that is what they provide for us. [3:08:47, 3:08:56]: Mayor, if I may, this is Jeremy. Just further clarification, this is just a contract renewal to extend the term of this contract for the broker that Ms. Wheeler and the city have been working with. [3:08:56, 3:09:01]: For a couple years and and right, as Miss Wigler explained, this is just to help find the [3:09:01, 3:09:07]: the health insurance for the the the city. This isn't replacing Cygna or anything else. This is just [3:09:07, 3:09:08]: Hiring an expert. [3:09:09, 3:09:09]: To help. [3:09:09, 3:09:15]: To assist the city find the plan that's the right fit. And this is just simply a contract renewal. [3:09:16, 3:09:23]: Uh and if they want to switch plans or switch brokers down the road, that's certainly the city's prerogative, but this is just a renewal of a contract. [3:09:26, 3:09:36]: Okay, Ms. Barber, this is the third time, but go ahead. Well no, I wanted to just provide uh clarity to uh Mr. Berry what my concern is. Um [3:09:36, 3:09:44]: I've seen a lot of contract renewals and extensions. I don't want to see contract renewals and extensions. [3:09:44, 3:09:48]: Where we can compare costs. [3:09:49, 3:09:50]: And decide. [3:09:50, 3:09:53]: If we want to stay with the same vendor. [3:09:54, 3:09:54]: Or not. [3:09:55, 3:10:05]: I'm seeing a lot of requests to extend contracts and we're not comparing the cost. I know that this is just for broker services. I know that. [3:10:06, 3:10:08]: All I'm asking [3:10:08, 3:10:11]: Is the next time when we have to do this? [3:10:11, 3:10:15]: that we compare cost with GMA or any other broker. [3:10:17, 3:10:18]: I've seen too many. [3:10:19, 3:10:26]: Request to extend contracts when we have not done the work ahead of time and comparing the costs. [3:10:27, 3:10:33]: I don't know if this this broker and his services that he provides is cheaper. [3:10:33, 3:10:35]: Or he provides [3:10:35, 3:10:39]: better quality or services. I don't know that. [3:10:40, 3:10:41]: All I've been given. [3:10:42, 3:10:54]: is just a request to extend a contract that we've been using well with a service brought provider that we've been using for three or four months, three or four years. [3:10:55, 3:10:56]: I wanna stop. [3:10:57, 3:11:00]: Just using the same people. [3:11:00, 3:11:03]: That we've been using over [3:11:03, 3:11:05]: And over and over again. [3:11:05, 3:11:09]: We need to be able to compare the cost. That's all. That is what my concern is. [3:11:09, 3:11:14]: I don't believe we're going to be without health insurance if this does not get approved. [3:11:14, 3:11:15]: Um [3:11:16, 3:11:17]: He's already done that. [3:11:18, 3:11:20]: During the budget retreat, he did his presentation. [3:11:20, 3:11:22]: For health insurance. [3:11:23, 3:11:24]: He's just a broker. [3:11:24, 3:11:26]: Or this company is just the agent. [3:11:27, 3:11:29]: We can find another agent. [3:11:30, 3:11:33]: I just want to be able to compare the cost and we have not done that. [3:11:33, 3:11:37]: That is what my concern is. The cost for broker services. [3:11:38, 3:11:40]: That is what my concern is. That's all. [3:11:41, 3:11:43]: All right. Well excuse me, Ms. Gantt. Go ahead, please. [3:11:44, 3:11:45]: Thank you. Um [3:11:46, 3:11:48]: Do we pay for broker services? [3:11:48, 3:11:49]: No. [3:11:50, 3:11:50]: Okay. [3:11:52, 3:11:53]: We don't pay for broker services. [3:11:56, 3:12:05]: Ms. Barber, you you've already spoken three times. Well, I'm looking at this Mayor recommendation form that says um fifty thousand dollars. Point of order, Mayor. [3:12:05, 3:12:05]: Yeah. [3:12:06, 3:12:12]: So which is it? Do we pay for it or not? Ms. Gantt, Ms. Barber, please. Okay. Ms. Gantt, go ahead, please. [3:12:14, 3:12:18]: Ms. Willer, we don't pay for broker services. That's what you just said? [3:12:18, 3:12:25]: Yeah, we don't we pay it is the broker gets his money, the commission is paid by Cygna. [3:12:25, 3:12:26]: Yes, okay. [3:12:27, 3:12:30]: So this really actually could be centered [3:12:31, 3:12:33]: Could be considered a professional service. [3:12:33, 3:12:36]: Is that not correct, Jer um um Jeremy? [3:12:36, 3:12:37]: Attorney. [3:12:38, 3:12:41]: Council member, I I mean I think that's probably correct. I think so. [3:12:42, 3:12:43]: So [3:12:43, 3:12:45]: We've been through this. [3:12:46, 3:12:49]: And I I respect the d the debate and and questioning. [3:12:50, 3:12:50]: But [3:12:51, 3:12:55]: We don't have to go through this. This is a professional service. [3:12:56, 3:13:00]: And I'm not going to say I'm tired of seeing the same [3:13:01, 3:13:07]: people do our services if they're the best or if that's the best bid that we receive. [3:13:07, 3:13:11]: Or because it's a professional service. [3:13:11, 3:13:13]: It really doesn't have to go out to bid. [3:13:15, 3:13:19]: in the first place, then we can leave it up to our HR [3:13:20, 3:13:21]: And allow [3:13:22, 3:13:23]: For our [3:13:23, 3:13:26]: pri for our directors, our staff to do their job. [3:13:28, 3:13:31]: There's a lot of intermingling going on right now. [3:13:33, 3:13:35]: There I have an issue [3:13:35, 3:13:37]: You know, with us online. [3:13:38, 3:13:42]: Saying, hey, we want to see other people. Well what if other people don't apply? [3:13:43, 3:13:50]: We've caused delays in contracts because we've only gotten one person to come and bid in the past. So be it. That's who wanted to do it. [3:13:52, 3:13:52]: We [3:13:54, 3:13:56]: Need to educate ourselves. [3:13:58, 3:13:59]: On the process. [3:14:00, 3:14:01]: It is imperative. [3:14:02, 3:14:08]: that we figure we know the difference sometimes between the professional services, what we do have to have and what we don't have to have. [3:14:09, 3:14:10]: We are not paying this broker. [3:14:14, 3:14:19]: That should be alarming within itself. I will not haul our staff's insurance. [3:14:20, 3:14:23]: I will not ha haul insurance because [3:14:24, 3:14:25]: Of the fact that we're just [3:14:27, 3:14:29]: We want to see what another broker will bring us. [3:14:31, 3:14:34]: Brokers and agents are shopping for rates. [3:14:35, 3:14:40]: This is a professional service that does not have to be bid out, nor are we paying for it. [3:14:43, 3:14:43]: Now [3:14:44, 3:14:49]: But while I was in being interrupted, I over I heard Councilwoman Barber state. [3:14:50, 3:14:56]: asking a question about fifty thousand dollars. Can anyone tell me if we're paying the broker fifty thousand dollars? [3:15:00, 3:15:06]: No, basically um in section three point three oh it just states that if a contract values but the con [3:15:06, 3:15:09]: If a contract values over it's an ordinance section. [3:15:09, 3:15:15]: But the ordinance references that the council has the authority to renew or extend the contract. [3:15:16, 3:15:17]: Okay. [3:15:17, 3:15:21]: So but we also can all agree that this is a professional service. [3:15:22, 3:15:29]: I mean, everybody's not an agent that's going out to look for insurance company rates. And that's what a broker does. They're looking for the rates. [3:15:29, 3:15:33]: This broker has found reasonable cheat rates that haven't been hiked. [3:15:37, 3:15:42]: And if you read in between the lines of what our HR management is saying, that would make sense. [3:15:44, 3:15:46]: I would like to move forward with the motion, Mayor. [3:15:47, 3:15:53]: At this time. We'll try this again. The motion was made by I believe Councilman Blount. Is that correct? And this can you second that motion. [3:15:54, 3:15:54]: Right. [3:15:55, 3:16:06]: I'm sorry, what are we voting on? I have a um 212 vote on this item and then it went into discussion right with Ms. Councilwoman Barber explaining her vote. [3:16:07, 3:16:07]: Right. [3:16:08, 3:16:11]: Okay, well I would like to make a motion that we approve. [3:16:11, 3:16:20]: at least up to a year, even if it was two years, so that just in case, but I think this is a professional service, I would like to make a motion. [3:16:20, 3:16:22]: That we approve. [3:16:23, 3:16:25]: The requ um request by [3:16:25, 3:16:26]: Miss Wheeler. [3:16:27, 3:16:29]: After we've had a discussion and discovered [3:16:29, 3:16:31]: That we don't pay for broker services. [3:16:33, 3:16:39]: All right. So that'd be a new motion. Uh Miss Holliday, I believe, did you have all that motion written down? You have that accurately? [3:16:41, 3:16:44]: The motion is as as presented. [3:16:45, 3:16:48]: Before but are you adding to that motion, Councilwoman can't? [3:16:49, 3:16:50]: For one year. [3:16:50, 3:16:51]: For one year. [3:16:52, 3:16:54]: She's making a new motion. [3:16:54, 3:16:56]: That's through twenty twenty two. [3:16:57, 3:17:00]: Yes, and we can extend it. I mean, here's the problem I have. [3:17:00, 3:17:06]: It needs to be a professional service instead of bidding out anyway, especially if we're not making a payment. [3:17:07, 3:17:10]: And when you do your re when you do research on it. [3:17:10, 3:17:14]: Anyone can go, just like you guys go and get quotes. [3:17:14, 3:17:22]: And look at different things. We the directors get different departments coming in, different businesses coming in and said, Hey, this is what we can do for you. [3:17:23, 3:17:23]: Right. [3:17:24, 3:17:25]: I mean [3:17:27, 3:17:29]: Well, some of us have have been in business before, but [3:17:30, 3:17:32]: That that is what I'm trying to say. [3:17:33, 3:17:33]: So [3:17:33, 3:17:35]: I I think that [3:17:35, 3:17:37]: You know, there's no need of us going round and round. [3:17:38, 3:17:40]: On something that is imperative to have. [3:17:42, 3:17:43]: Your health care. [3:17:44, 3:17:46]: With a br about a broker. [3:17:46, 3:17:47]: Who we don't pay. [3:17:50, 3:17:53]: And our HR, who we hired. [3:17:54, 3:17:55]: To do a job. [3:17:56, 3:17:59]: Her job specifically recommends [3:18:01, 3:18:02]: This [3:18:02, 3:18:03]: Healthcare plan [3:18:04, 3:18:06]: In the manner that we have it in. [3:18:07, 3:18:08]: And has explained why. [3:18:10, 3:18:12]: I think that's imperative that we move forward with that. [3:18:14, 3:18:16]: Stand by. Is there a second to the motion? [3:18:17, 3:18:18]: Second yeah. [3:18:18, 3:18:26]: Ms. Bruce, second. Mr. Thomas, please. Well, I was just gonna say I I I can I'm willing to approve for the for the one year if that's in the motion. [3:18:27, 3:18:35]: It I I believe it is. Matter of fact, Miss Holliday, what did you have right written down for the motion? I have that, but my question is, and this may be for our attorney. [3:18:35, 3:18:37]: Because what is presented is [3:18:38, 3:18:39]: Um an RF. [3:18:40, 3:18:41]: Is this an RFP? [3:18:42, 3:18:45]: So it is this an all together brand new item. [3:18:46, 3:18:49]: on the agenda, not having anything to do with number fifteen on the agenda. [3:18:50, 3:18:53]: Because number fifteen references an RFP. [3:18:56, 3:18:58]: The original contract, I believe. [3:18:58, 3:19:05]: And I perhaps Miss Wheeler, uh Miss Miller could speak to this, but I I believe it originally was bid some years ago and it was. [3:19:06, 3:19:11]: It must have been bid in 2018 because it says RFP number eighteen RFP. [3:19:11, 3:19:15]: So right, this is just extending the term of the contract under that. [3:19:16, 3:19:19]: And they're it's not a it's not a brand new RFP. [3:19:19, 3:19:22]: And and as Councilwoman Gantt said before, if [3:19:22, 3:19:26]: That's the council's prerogative that still could just be done as professional services. [3:19:26, 3:19:28]: Without a a procurement. [3:19:28, 3:19:29]: Bye. [3:19:30, 3:19:32]: I think that us doing that. [3:19:32, 3:19:37]: I mean, we should rely on the professionals. I think we're micromanaging way too much. We're crossing the line. [3:19:39, 3:19:42]: All right. So um Mr. Blanc, go ahead, please. [3:19:43, 3:20:03]: Mayor, I I I'd like for us to go ahead and take the vote for the RFP because I thank Ms. Wheeler for the courtesy. But if we don't approve it tonight, then she has the right to go ahead and move forward with his professional services anyway, rather than have every employee and everybody sit back with no insurance come January the first, because our professional or department head has just said that. [3:20:03, 3:20:21]: So I don't want us to sit here and continue to play games. Take the vote and if it doesn't pass, Ms. Wheeler, it's on you to make sure every employee and everyone still has insurance by January the first with professional services. Council, I don't agree with that because Mayor Council is directing staff. [3:20:22, 3:20:23]: And we've had a lot of [3:20:24, 3:20:27]: hearsays of threats and everything else already. No. [3:20:27, 3:20:28]: I don't agree with that. [3:20:29, 3:20:40]: Okay, the motion either go with that or not. The motion's been made. It's been seconded. Ms. Uh Holiday, read the motion one more time before we take this vote. Make sure we understand this motion is right. Please. Okay. [3:20:41, 3:20:48]: Motion by Councilwoman Gantt, uh second by uh councilman Blount to extend the contract for one year. [3:20:50, 3:20:52]: For broker services. [3:20:54, 3:21:04]: Is that the motion? But MSI. Yes, that's the that's the sir. That's the um motion. That's I okay. I would ask that mayor council consider it a professional service. [3:21:05, 3:21:10]: Okay. Mr. Blount seconded that particular motion. All in favor of motion, please indicate. [3:21:12, 3:21:22]: All right, I got four and um uh one abstention. All right, motion passed. All right, Hord, I'd like to add and comment for my abstention. [3:21:22, 3:21:34]: So Councilwoman Gantt made reference to this moving forward as a professional service agreement. I do believe any expenditures that exceed the authority limit. [3:21:35, 3:21:47]: of the city manager. What is that? Is it$25,000? It is necessary. Okay. I assume our medical benefits exceed the amount of$25,000. [3:21:47, 3:21:47]: So [3:21:48, 3:21:57]: That contract doesn't spend money. This is just finding someone to to bring on a health insurance company. They get paid by the health insurance company. [3:21:57, 3:21:58]: Not by the city. [3:21:59, 3:22:02]: Okay, so this was advertised as an RFP. [3:22:04, 3:22:07]: The request was to extend the contract that derived. [3:22:07, 3:22:09]: from this RFP. [3:22:09, 3:22:11]: So if I'm extending a contract. [3:22:13, 3:22:16]: Obviously there had to have been some funds. [3:22:17, 3:22:24]: I just we don't have enough I don't have enough information that I feel comfortable with voting on this. So I'm gonna abstain. That's all. [3:22:24, 3:22:26]: But I i if I may, real quick, the [3:22:28, 3:22:38]: The city has the option always to bid professional services, always has that option, but it also has the option, because it's an exception to procurement, to not bid it. [3:22:39, 3:22:42]: So someone made a decision in twenty eighteen to bid this work. [3:22:43, 3:22:48]: That I mean, I think that must have I wasn't here at the time. Someone must have made that decision. [3:22:48, 3:22:53]: But because it's an exception to the procurement code doesn't mean it always has to be done that way in the future. [3:22:55, 3:23:00]: Well, because I'm being asked to make a decision, I'll abstain because I don't feel comfortable. [3:23:00, 3:23:01]: That's all. Thank you. [3:23:02, 3:23:06]: Four zero one to motion pass. All right, now onto comments uh by me. [3:23:06, 3:23:07]: Good night. [3:23:08, 3:23:10]: Ladies and gentlemen, good night. Ladies and gentlemen. [3:23:10, 3:23:12]: Uh we're still in a pandemic. [3:23:13, 3:23:16]: So the public health department uh update in reference to um [3:23:16, 3:23:20]: How about testing for COVID 19, Red Hot Field? [3:23:20, 3:23:35]: 143 Henry Parkway. It's right across from the Henry County government office. And so COVID-19 testing is done every uh Tuesdays to Thursday, 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. [3:23:36, 3:23:38]: Okay. You just go by there and get tested. [3:23:39, 3:23:59]: And of course, uh you can also go to Dissi4 Health uh Department, uh the public health department there, and uh you can uh get tested there as well in this aspect. Um so please do so. Vaccinations are uh are uh free of charge and a lot of different organizations uh that have been working with the public health department and/or [3:23:59, 3:24:01]: core nonprofit organization and [3:24:02, 3:24:08]: uh different churches and organizations have been f financing or or presenting those uh to the public so please do so [3:24:09, 3:24:20]: And if you want a public health uh department to give you a vaccination, you can call 888-847-4262 to make an appointment. Once again, it's 888-847-4262. [3:24:21, 3:24:41]: And uh you can do that. Of course, they're gonna talk about the demographics, your health, uh, history, your age, any type of past, infections that you may have had, uh, COVID-19 testing that you may have, and things uh things of this nature. So please do that on this aspect. And of course, uh more information will be coming out of uh [3:24:41, 3:25:01]: uh in reference to uh uh what the type of FDA approvals will go on for Pfizer or Moderma to get the younger uh children uh vaccinated as well. That's coming shortly. And of course there are some boosters being offered now for folks that have underlying health conditions in a certain age group. So you got to keep [3:25:01, 3:25:18]: vigilant of this and uh continue to uh uh be safe, wear your masks, use hand sanitizer, wash your hands, watch a distance and uh get vaccinated. There's plenty of places in the public that you can actually do this free of charge or they'll take your housing services. You have that as well. [3:25:19, 3:25:39]: Tomorrow is starts early voting. Early voting for the municipal elections as well as for T S PLOS. Let me talk about T S PLOS in just a bit. So early voting starts tomorrow and uh several different locations around the county, but the main location for early voting for City of Stockbridge will be Merrill Mounters Conference Center. And [3:25:39, 3:25:42]: And uh that is if I understand right, a seven to seven. [3:25:42, 3:25:45]: And uh that includes weekends as well. [3:25:45, 3:26:05]: And then on the day of election, which is November 2nd, besides Merrill Manors, it'll be the Stockbridge United Methodist Church, as well as Red Oak United Methodist Church. It really depends on where what your your registration card tells you where you need to go on the day of the actual um uh uh [3:26:05, 3:26:07]: election which is November second. [3:26:07, 3:26:27]: And uh if you vote at those particular locations, you can do that for the municipal location as well as T S PLAS. Uh if you have that actual uh registration card indicating that. And I want to make sure that we have all the updates uh of uh early voting and the voting on November 2nd are updated on the website. [3:26:27, 3:26:47]: Holiday make ensures that that is done in that aspect. So it's your constitutional right to vote. And so hopefully you use the right to vote. If you haven't registered to vote already, it was too late for this election, because I think you had to do that by the 4th of October. So hopefully everybody uses their constitutional right and that many people have fought hard, get blood, sweat, and tears. [3:26:47, 3:26:59]: In a life for your constitutional rights. So please vote. Regardless of who you vote for, you need to go vote. Now, in reference to T-SPLOST, I will tell you you need to vote yes for T-SPLOST, transportation, special options. [3:27:00, 3:27:03]: Local sales tax, right? You have to do that. [3:27:03, 3:27:11]: Uh that if you do that, the city of Stockbridge over a five-year period would get roughly a little more than thirty million dollars. [3:27:11, 3:27:31]: Okay, that that would be for road expansion. Say, for instance, uh, that's just a little penny additional penny tax on the dollar, sales tax on the dollar for everything that is bought in the county. And that includes folks that are traveling through and or visitors, or my sister comes to visit me and goes shopping, she gets taxed that penny additional penny tax as well, along with all the citizens here. [3:27:31, 3:27:35]: Listen, thirty million dollars, almost thirty point five million dollars is projected over five year period. [3:27:36, 3:27:38]: If we pass and we must do so. [3:27:38, 3:27:43]: what that's going to do for us give an idea that would take uh the rock quarry widening [3:27:43, 3:27:58]: From Hudson Bridge Road to Hospital Drive to service route 138, which is North Hernan Boulevard, and we'll share that cost with the county. All right. And uh so we need to do that. We need to expand that and and widen that road for transportation purposes. [3:27:58, 3:28:10]: All right, that also involves with the county project for the SPLOS. Once we pass it and you vote yes, that deals with the um actually with the Hudson excuse me with the uh [3:28:10, 3:28:30]: Rockquarry widening as well. Uh excuse me, Rockquarry widening from Hudson Bridge Road to Hospital Drive, 138. Also Hudson Bridge Road, E. L. Parkway, resurfacing to from Willis Drive to Service Route 42. That's a joint project with the county. Something good that we're doing with them as well. So that's what would happen. And those projects. [3:28:30, 3:28:50]: Projects together involve uh well with the uh Hudson Bridge Road, Eagles Landing, and that is combined with the county, roughly um uh quite a little under$2 million for that one. And then of course the the uh Rock Roy writing project to Hudson Bridge Road with the uh with the actual uh county. [3:28:50, 3:29:10]: Uh that is roughly uh$25 million to do that. And now, and following that, of course, would be the extension. We're looking at the extension of Rock Quarry that would go uh north uh from the intersection of North Henry Boulevard, cross O'Conyas Road, and and swing around to hit uh Valley. [3:29:10, 3:29:10]: [12551.3, 12557.8]: So that's also projected and and in that funding uh once we pass this uh TLUS on November 2nd. [3:29:18, 3:29:22]: Or you can go tomorrow and vote and pass start passing it right there tomorrow because the the the polls will be open. [3:29:23, 3:29:43]: The other thing that's will happen with this uh thirty million dollars that we will get once you say yes to split T Splash, right, is that we got our trail network and uh that would be a span of within the within the city. We got additional um uh sidewalks and curbing and pedestrian walkways that'll be added through. [3:29:43, 3:29:49]: The county, screw through the city as well. Trails such as Reese Creek Trail extension. [3:29:49, 3:29:51]: The Bush Creek Trail extension. [3:29:51, 3:30:06]: Rum Creek Trail Extension, Patrick Henry Parkway, East Atlanta Road, and North Henry Boulevard, all part of the trail process. And we're talking about uh uh different types of Walt Stevens Road that'll be involved, Oak the Red Oak Road, Oak Honyers. [3:30:07, 3:30:27]: Flip and roll, Martin Luther King Senior Heritage Trail, all part of the trail network, even though we we we authorize a$1 million bond, but this will be also additional funds from T Splots to help with the transportation process. And then you're gonna take a look at all the other cities and the under underserved community part of stock bridge with uh curbs and butt gutter and [3:30:27, 3:30:47]: sidewalks, pedestrian walkways, crossways to keep people safe, the connectivity that we'll have between our communities uh and and leading people downtown this aspect as well. Um so we need to do this folks. You need to vote yes. And we'll continue to uh emphasize this all through the campaign, all through the election season. So please. [3:30:47, 3:30:59]: uh vote yes on this as well. We need it. We need uh the dollars and we need and matter of fact if we don't do this we're all gonna suffer everybody will suffer if it doesn't pass countywide we're all gonna suffer the next five years or more [3:30:59, 3:31:03]: And so uh let's uh let's uh make ourselves happy and pass this, please. [3:31:04, 3:31:07]: Uh one other thing I'd like to mention is that um [3:31:08, 3:31:24]: Uh as you as you probably will know now our city manager Brandy Knight has moved on to another different assignment. Uh he's now uh going to be signed uh and work for Roswell City Government. Uh so we are now actively in the process of finding our next city manager. And hopefully we'll be able to accomplish this within the next three. [3:31:24, 3:31:40]: a month or so and in the first part of the year we'll should have one on site. So have a new new uh city manager. So we're looking forward to that in this aspect. Uh so we we're we're missing that for right now, but we'll continue to move forward with the help of the staff and the council we'll continue to move the city forward in this aspect as well. [3:31:41, 3:31:48]: On that note, I'll uh end on my particular comments and I'll go to announce Mr. Upcoming meetings. Next city council. [3:31:49, 3:31:49]: Yeah. [3:31:50, 3:32:02]: Yes. Real quick, I just want to make sure that we we're we're being very clear. Stockbridge's voting location will be Merrill Mandas, but Henry election is going to be open for early voting too. Is that correct? [3:32:03, 3:32:08]: I'm sorry. Yes. Yeah, I'm sorry about that. I'm sorry. Yes, you can early early voting can ha happen now at the uh [3:32:09, 3:32:28]: um down at downtown um uh it's on forty forty eleven forty eleven street right forty last donna i guess you could you do that if you're you can also vote uh but it's in uh locust growth in happened if you're all the way if you're down there as well on this aspect. What are the addresses off top your head miss holiday yeah for the additional for early voting that is if you have those handy [3:32:28, 3:32:31]: Uh Fortson Library and also in Hampton. [3:32:32, 3:32:35]: Forty Atlanta Street, McDonough, and Merrill Manders Conference Center. [3:32:36, 3:32:45]: Okay. For the early voting, which is twelve October to thirty October. Correct. And that includes the Saturdays, seven to seven. That includes those Saturdays as well. [3:32:46, 3:32:48]: Well Saturdays are Saturdays are not seven to seven. [3:32:49, 3:32:55]: Saturdays are nine to five and the one there's two Saturdays and then one Sunday is one to five. [3:32:56, 3:33:01]: What what what date I don't have in front of what date do you know the date of the I don't have that in front of me, Mayor, but [3:33:01, 3:33:06]: It's on a website. The schedule is on the city's website. It's on the website, ladies and gentlemen. Schedule's on the website, okay? [3:33:06, 3:33:26]: So um early voting 12 tomorrow, 12 October to 30 October. Please vote. Your constitutional right. Um city council meeting at 6 p.m. via Zoom, uh second Monday of each month, which is gonna be uh October 11th, which is tonight. Main Street Advisory Board has uh rescheduled to meet at 9 a.m. by way of zoom on October 15th. [3:33:27, 3:33:32]: youth council meeting is five thirty by way of zoom second Wednesday of each month, which is October thirteenth. [3:33:33, 3:33:38]: Downtown Evelyn Authority meeting is 6 p.m. by way of Zoom, third Tuesday of each month, which is October 19th. [3:33:39, 3:33:52]: Uh the youth council advisory meeting is 6 30 by way of zoom, third Tuesday of each month, 19 October. The city council work session by 6 p.m. by way of Zoom, last Tuesday of each month, uh which will be 25 October. [3:33:52, 3:34:00]: And the planning commission meeting is 6:30 by way of Zune, fourth Thursday of each month, which is 28th October. [3:34:00, 3:34:10]: And please join Councilwoman Barber at the Marmano's Conference Center for Free Zuma Fitness in the Park Saturdays at 8 a.m. at the Clark uh Park Pavilion A, B, and C. [3:34:11, 3:34:21]: Please join Councilman Barber once again at Normand's Conference Center Saturday, uh this coming Saturday, October 16th from 10 a.m. to 4 p.m. for a blood drive partnership with the Lifesto. [3:34:22, 3:34:29]: A pretty and pink love walk Saturday, October 16th, 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. at Clark Park, uh walking trail located one one. [3:34:29, 3:34:37]: One Davis Road and Forest and Star Ridge, and special tribute to co-founder of this particular uh pretty and pink glove walk, CC McGee. [3:34:38, 3:34:45]: Uh Stockbridge Amateur concert featuring award-winning artist Freddie Jackson and Chaka Khan, the main event. [3:34:45, 3:34:51]: Saturday, October twenty third, eight PM. Matter of fact, if you haven't got your ticket yet, go to StockbridgeAMP dot com. [3:34:52, 3:34:57]: And see what's available and purchase your ticket. Once again, Stockbridgeamp.com. [3:34:57, 3:35:03]: And uh find out what's available, purchase a ticket and come and hang out and enjoy the concert of these two outstanding entertainers. [3:35:04, 3:35:09]: And it's opportunity to meet the mayor and voice your questions and concerns on Monday, October twenty fifth. [3:35:10, 3:35:21]: 10 a.m. to noon and uh that'll be virtual and you need to call city hall and schedule an appointment with Zenobia Pearson and you can do that by 777-389-7900. [3:35:21, 3:35:27]: On that note, uh council, do we need to go to Zecklar session at all? Um do we have a motion to go to Zecklar session? [3:35:30, 3:35:37]: All right, I've no one's motion, so we need a motion to end our uh council meeting. So move there a second. [3:35:37, 3:35:40]: Our second. Okay. All third, please indicate. [3:35:41, 3:35:48]: It looks like we have an amusement decision. Okay. Goodbye, everybody. God bless you all. Stay safe. Have a good safe good night, evening, week. [3:35:49, 3:35:51]: Good night. Good night.

--- title: Main Street Advisory Board Meeting date: 2021-10-08 source: 2021-10-08_Main_Street_Advisory_Board_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:01]: We're able to um [0:00:03, 0:00:08]: We're able to get um that hashed out before our meeting. Um we are calling our [0:00:09, 0:00:16]: October fifteenth, twenty twenty-one, Main Street Advisory Board Board meeting to order at nine oh six AM. [0:00:16, 0:00:27]: Uh we will begin by taking a roll call. Uh if when you hear your name, if you can please acknowledge your presence uh so that we are knowing who is here with us today. [0:00:28, 0:00:30]: Or aware of who is here with us today. [0:00:30, 0:00:33]: Uh Miss Rocio Camacho. [0:00:34, 0:00:35]: I'm saying [0:00:36, 0:00:36]: Thank you. [0:00:37, 0:00:38]: Miss Pryor Finley. [0:00:41, 0:00:41]: Prayer. [0:00:42, 0:00:43]: Thank you. [0:00:43, 0:00:45]: Mr. Shamari Firch. [0:00:46, 0:00:47]: Present. [0:00:47, 0:00:48]: Thank you. [0:00:48, 0:00:50]: Miss Vanessa Gibson. [0:00:52, 0:00:52]: Present. [0:00:53, 0:00:56]: Thank you, Mr. Willie Hopkins. [0:00:56, 0:00:57]: Present. [0:00:57, 0:00:59]: Thank you. Mr. Greg Hortzon. [0:01:01, 0:01:02]: Right. [0:01:02, 0:01:05]: Thank you. Miss Linda Jones. [0:01:09, 0:01:10]: Miss Linda Jones. [0:01:13, 0:01:15]: Anika Potts, I am present. [0:01:16, 0:01:19]: Miss Mildred Reed. Present. [0:01:19, 0:01:20]: Thank you. [0:01:20, 0:01:22]: Miss Barber Richardson. [0:01:27, 0:01:28]: Barber Richardson. [0:01:32, 0:01:34]: Mr. Alfonso Thomas. [0:01:34, 0:01:35]: President. [0:01:36, 0:01:37]: Thank you, sir. [0:01:38, 0:01:51]: And I do um understand we have um city staff with us today of um manager of Main Street program, Miss Braggs, not sure if Miss Ferra is present and um [0:01:54, 0:01:57]: And we also have [0:01:57, 0:02:00]: I think who uh I think Keller Peterson. [0:02:01, 0:02:18]: Mr. Peterson. I'm like, I know someone else is here. Mr. Peterson is present. All right. Thank you for that. Roll call has been completed and we do have a quorum. Um, Mrs. Brax. Um, I would love to go ahead and read our mission statement for the Mainsheet Advisory Board. Um [0:02:19, 0:02:23]: Oh excuse me, advisory board. Our mission is that the main street [0:02:24, 0:02:35]: Program is to design and support an identifiable downtown historic district that promotes economic vitality, cultivates artistic expression. [0:02:35, 0:02:37]: Encourages cultural enrichment. [0:02:38, 0:02:40]: And nurtures community spirit. [0:02:40, 0:02:46]: So let's allow that mission to um be with us as we work through our meeting today. [0:02:47, 0:02:53]: We're gonna move on to item number two in our agenda, which is to review and approve the meeting. [0:02:53, 0:02:54]: Agenda. [0:02:54, 0:02:57]: This information was sent to you yesterday for review. [0:02:57, 0:02:58]: Uh [0:02:58, 0:03:03]: Is there any questions or concerns regarding the October meeting agenda as presented? [0:03:08, 0:03:14]: Okay, hearing none, can we please have a motion to approve the meeting agenda for October 21? [0:03:15, 0:03:16]: as presented. [0:03:18, 0:03:20]: Mm well cheer. [0:03:20, 0:03:21]: Yes, sir. [0:03:21, 0:03:26]: I move that we accept the September tenth, two thousand twenty one meetings as presented. [0:03:27, 0:03:30]: Thank you, Mr. Hopkins. Do I have a second? [0:03:31, 0:03:32]: A second. [0:03:33, 0:03:34]: Thank you, Mr. Hurch. [0:03:35, 0:03:44]: We will go through to find out if you are in favor or or opposition of this motion. Um, if you can please say yes or no when your name is called. [0:03:45, 0:03:46]: Miss Camacho. [0:03:46, 0:03:47]: Yes. [0:03:47, 0:03:49]: Thank you, Miss Stanley. [0:03:53, 0:03:56]: Apologies. I'm s I didn't I didn't even hear it. Um [0:03:57, 0:03:59]: You're fine on the the motion. [0:04:00, 0:04:02]: Oh yeah, I'm hold on one second, one second. [0:04:04, 0:04:08]: You're fine. Okay. Um go ahead. [0:04:09, 0:04:22]: Yes, it has been moved and properly seconded that we approve the um October fifteenth, twenty twenty-one agenda as presented. And we're looking to see if you are in favor of that or against that. [0:04:23, 0:04:24]: Yes. [0:04:24, 0:04:25]: Okay, thank you, ma'am. [0:04:26, 0:04:27]: Um, Mr. First. [0:04:28, 0:04:28]: Yes. [0:04:29, 0:04:30]: Thank you, sir. [0:04:30, 0:04:31]: Miss Gibson? [0:04:31, 0:04:32]: Yes. [0:04:32, 0:04:34]: Thank you, Mr. Hopkins. [0:04:35, 0:04:35]: Yes, okay. [0:04:35, 0:04:37]: Thank you, Mr. Horton. [0:04:41, 0:04:42]: Yes. [0:04:42, 0:04:47]: Thank you, sir. Ms. Potts, yes, I agree. Miss Reed. Yes. [0:04:48, 0:04:49]: Thank you. And Mr. Thomas. [0:04:50, 0:04:51]: Yes. [0:04:51, 0:04:53]: Thank you. Motion carries. [0:04:54, 0:05:00]: Uh we will now move on to our third agenda item, which is to review and approve the meeting minutes for Mount September. [0:05:00, 0:05:02]: Two thousand twenty one meeting. [0:05:02, 0:05:07]: Uh again, this information or this um document was sent to you yesterday for review. [0:05:07, 0:05:09]: Um we will take um [0:05:09, 0:05:18]: 20 seconds to allow for any questions, concerns that need to be presented regarding these meeting meeting minutes. [0:05:18, 0:05:19]: Any discussion? [0:05:21, 0:05:24]: My name was spelled wrong twice. [0:05:24, 0:05:25]: Oh, okay. [0:05:27, 0:05:34]: Okay, it um probably the spell check hit it. Where are those um notes? Um [0:05:34, 0:05:38]: Prayer. I see it's spelled correctly in the attendance, but is it spelled? [0:05:39, 0:05:42]: And I see it's in the swearing in ceremony. [0:05:43, 0:05:45]: That's actually the incorrect spelling. [0:05:45, 0:05:48]: Okay, what is the spelling, please? [0:05:48, 0:05:56]: And it's funny, yeah, because it was actually correct on the um in the in the small business Saturday. That's the correct spelling, F I N L E Y. [0:05:56, 0:06:04]: So there were two other instances in the uh board members in attendance and in the school. Okay. The last name. Okay. I was thinking it was the first name. [0:06:04, 0:06:08]: No, and that's you know, that's the funny part'cause usually it is the first name Meggets. [0:06:10, 0:06:12]: Okay. I see it. I see it. [0:06:12, 0:06:13]: Yep, yep. [0:06:14, 0:06:16]: Mildred and I will make a note of that. [0:06:16, 0:06:21]: Okay. And since since we're talking about spelling, um [0:06:21, 0:06:29]: The L and the F in Elf's Cakery is actually capital because those are initials. And that was in the swearing in uh part two. [0:06:29, 0:06:30]: Okay. [0:06:32, 0:06:32]: I see it. [0:06:33, 0:06:35]: Mildred, do you see that as well? [0:06:39, 0:06:40]: Okay. [0:06:41, 0:06:42]: She's on mute. [0:06:42, 0:06:46]: You're on mute, Mildred, but I see you n nodding your head. Okay. [0:06:47, 0:06:49]: All right, we'll make those changes, prayer. [0:06:49, 0:06:50]: All right, sounds good. [0:06:51, 0:06:51]: Thank you. [0:06:52, 0:06:52]: Yeah. [0:06:55, 0:06:58]: Any other um points for discussion? [0:07:04, 0:07:14]: Okay, great. Hearing none, can we please have a motion to accept the September 10, 2021 meeting minutes with said corrections? [0:07:16, 0:07:22]: Madam Chair, I re uh I move that we accept the September 10th meeting with the necessary corrections. [0:07:23, 0:07:25]: Thank you, sir. Do we have a second? [0:07:29, 0:07:30]: I'll second that. [0:07:31, 0:07:32]: Thank you. Is that Miss Camacho? [0:07:34, 0:07:34]: Correct. [0:07:35, 0:07:39]: Thank you. I'm sorry I'm on my phone so I can't see everyone. I apologize for that. [0:07:39, 0:07:52]: All right, great. Uh so the motion has been properly moved in seconds. We will now move to um your the voting for this particular motion. If you're in favor, please say yes. If not, please say no. Ms. Camacho. [0:07:53, 0:07:53]: Yes. [0:07:54, 0:07:55]: Thank you. [0:07:55, 0:07:56]: Miss Finley? [0:07:57, 0:07:59]: Yes, thank you. [0:07:59, 0:08:00]: Mr. Kirch. [0:08:03, 0:08:04]: Yes. [0:08:04, 0:08:05]: Thank you, sir. [0:08:05, 0:08:06]: Miss Gibson? [0:08:07, 0:08:10]: Yes. Thank you, ma'am. Mr. Hopkins. [0:08:10, 0:08:11]: Yes. [0:08:11, 0:08:14]: Thank you, sir. Mr. Horton. [0:08:16, 0:08:17]: Yes. [0:08:17, 0:08:18]: Thank you, sir. [0:08:19, 0:08:20]: I have to run the meeting. [0:08:21, 0:08:35]: Oh, hello, Ms. Jones. Thank you for your presence. Um, would you like to vote um weigh in on this motion? Are you in favor or opposing that we move with the uh approving the amendments as presented with the necessary corrections? [0:08:35, 0:08:36]: Yes. [0:08:36, 0:08:37]: Thank you, ma'am. [0:08:37, 0:08:38]: Uh Miss Reed? [0:08:39, 0:08:40]: Yes. [0:08:41, 0:08:41]: Thank you. [0:08:42, 0:08:44]: Miss Richardson, have you joined the meeting? [0:08:46, 0:08:47]: Okay. [0:08:47, 0:08:49]: We'll move on to Mr. Thomas. [0:08:49, 0:08:51]: Yes. Thank you, sir. [0:08:52, 0:08:53]: So moved. [0:08:53, 0:09:03]: And our final area that needs to be a review area of attention that needs review and approval is our financial statement from s for September 2021. [0:09:06, 0:09:09]: Again, this information has been sent to you uh prior to the meeting for review. [0:09:10, 0:09:16]: Uh any questions, concerns, or needs need uh points of clarification by anyone or for anyone? [0:09:29, 0:09:31]: All right, hearing none. [0:09:31, 0:09:32]: Um [0:09:33, 0:09:37]: You will please have a motion to accept the income statement. [0:09:37, 0:09:38]: Or um [0:09:39, 0:09:42]: Fiscal year ending [0:09:43, 0:09:46]: Oc September thirtieth of twenty twenty one, as presented. [0:09:48, 0:09:56]: Madam Chair, I move that we accept the income statement for physical year 2021 for 930, 2021, and place in the archives for future auditing purposes. [0:09:57, 0:09:59]: Thank you, sir. I would second that motion. [0:10:01, 0:10:03]: Thank you, Miss Jones. [0:10:04, 0:10:10]: All right, all those in favor, uh please acknowledge by saying yes. Any opposition, please say no. [0:10:10, 0:10:12]: Um Miss Camacho. [0:10:12, 0:10:13]: Yes. [0:10:13, 0:10:15]: Thank you. Miss Finley. [0:10:15, 0:10:18]: Yes. Thank you. Mr. Firch. [0:10:18, 0:10:19]: Yes. [0:10:19, 0:10:20]: Thank you, Miss Gibson. [0:10:21, 0:10:22]: Yes. [0:10:22, 0:10:24]: Thank you, Miss Hop Mr. Hopkins. [0:10:25, 0:10:25]: Yes, ma'am. [0:10:26, 0:10:28]: Thank you. Mr. Horton. [0:10:31, 0:10:31]: Yes. [0:10:32, 0:10:33]: Thank you. Miss Jones? [0:10:34, 0:10:34]: Yes. [0:10:35, 0:10:37]: Uh Miss Potts, yes. Miss Reed? [0:10:37, 0:10:38]: Yes. [0:10:38, 0:10:39]: Thank you. [0:10:40, 0:10:41]: Mr. Thomas. [0:10:41, 0:10:42]: Yeah. [0:10:42, 0:10:43]: Thank you, sir. [0:10:44, 0:10:44]: Um [0:10:44, 0:10:55]: Our motion has probably been moved and approved. Um, thank you for your time and I will now move the meeting over to our main street manager for her report, Ms. Braggs. [0:10:56, 0:11:05]: Thank you, Ms. Potts. And thank you, everyone, again. Good morning. We are happy to have you all here with us. [0:11:05, 0:11:07]: And we appreciate your time. [0:11:07, 0:11:10]: I'm gonna try to be um quick with my report. [0:11:11, 0:11:11]: Um [0:11:12, 0:11:16]: We have housekeeping items that we need to just quickly tick off. [0:11:17, 0:11:25]: Thank you. First, I want to say thank you to all of you for your flexibility and allowing us to change the meeting time from our regularly scheduled. [0:11:25, 0:11:29]: Second Friday of the month to the third Friday of of the month. [0:11:29, 0:11:34]: I had to go out of town to um see my daughter who's away in college in Florida. [0:11:35, 0:11:43]: And so I had a scheduling conflict that I am um very um thankful to all of you for being able to accommodate. [0:11:43, 0:11:45]: Uh moving the meeting. [0:11:45, 0:11:50]: Um I sent everyone your statement of intent forms. [0:11:50, 0:11:58]: Um, please complete those and return them to me as soon as you possibly can. I would like to get them. [0:11:58, 0:12:00]: Um ба октобер твої найт. [0:12:01, 0:12:06]: Um please consider whether or not you would like to continue with the your participation. [0:12:06, 0:12:09]: On the Main Street advisory board. [0:12:09, 0:12:16]: If you have questions about when your formal term ends, you can contact me and I will um [0:12:16, 0:12:20]: Check those records and um let you know when your particular [0:12:21, 0:12:26]: um term ends. This is something that we do at the end of every year. [0:12:26, 0:12:31]: Um, just in case there are people who are unable to complete their term. [0:12:31, 0:12:35]: Or um are at the end of their term and do not want to [0:12:35, 0:12:40]: um re up as you will um to participate for an additional um term. [0:12:41, 0:12:46]: If your term is ending, we do have to have you reappointed to the board if that is your desire. [0:12:47, 0:12:52]: Um new board members, this is just a reminder that it is required. [0:12:52, 0:12:55]: Паве Стейт Офис о Донтаун Девелопмент. [0:12:55, 0:13:03]: For all Main Street board members to have taken the Main Street 101 training within the first year of their appointment. [0:13:03, 0:13:10]: Um, so if you know that you have not taken that, I know that Vanessa and Prayer have not. [0:13:10, 0:13:14]: Um taking that yet since they just joined last month. So they have a little bit of time. [0:13:15, 0:13:18]: But um our other new members um [0:13:18, 0:13:21]: Need to make sure that they get that training. [0:13:21, 0:13:22]: Um [0:13:22, 0:13:25]: Taken care of before the year ends. [0:13:25, 0:13:30]: Please if you have any questions about that or uh we went over that in our [0:13:31, 0:13:36]: Um orientation meeting, new member orientation meeting. But if you have any questions about that. [0:13:37, 0:13:41]: Or need um instructions on how to um go to the website. [0:13:41, 0:13:59]: please let me know and give me a call or send me an email and we'll go over that step by step. It is a self-paced step um test. So you can take your time in doing it, but it is the materials are kind of lengthy. So it's not something that you can do [0:13:59, 0:14:01]: uh at a last minute type thing. You have to [0:14:02, 0:14:06]: Um s take some time out of your schedule, cut some time out. [0:14:06, 0:14:10]: To be able to go through the materials and take the little tests. [0:14:10, 0:14:13]: that um are after it. It's a multiple choice test. [0:14:13, 0:14:20]: And you have to score at least seventy percent or above on it to pass the test to be certified. [0:14:20, 0:14:23]: This um test does have a fee. [0:14:23, 0:14:27]: But that fee will be covered by the Main Street program. [0:14:27, 0:14:32]: So when you are ready to take the test, let me know so that we can make sure that [0:14:32, 0:14:34]: Um, payment is in place. [0:14:34, 0:14:37]: So that you can get your certification documentation. [0:14:38, 0:14:39]: So [0:14:39, 0:14:42]: Again, that has to be done before the end of the year. [0:14:43, 0:14:44]: Uh before the [0:14:44, 0:14:45]: First [0:14:45, 0:14:50]: The end of your first year as a Main Street Advisory Board member. So within the first year. [0:14:50, 0:15:05]: of your appointment. Um Mildred, did you have a question? A comment. I just wanted to share. I mean I know I'm off mute now, but Vanessa Gibson needs to mute her button. I'm hearing some little noise in the background and I realize that Nika's not on mute. [0:15:06, 0:15:10]: Okay. It's it's it's corrected now. Thank you. Okay. [0:15:10, 0:15:14]: All right, thank you, Mildred. Um Anika, did you have a question? [0:15:14, 0:15:22]: Yes, I just came off mute and had a question for the same concern just to ensure that we um if we're not speaking, that we please remain on mute. [0:15:22, 0:15:34]: Um, and I know Mr. Peterson said he had to leave for meetings. I didn't know if he had anything he needed to share with the group before he departed. I just wanted to ensure we had those two things addressed before you continued. Thank you. [0:15:34, 0:15:35]: Okay. [0:15:37, 0:15:43]: Mr. Peterson, did you have anything that you wanted to share before um you left the meeting? [0:15:43, 0:16:03]: Uh yes. Uh just shortly. Um I have a meeting uh later on today. Um the RSVP plan will be discussed as it pertains to real estate. We had a great meeting on last week uh with the business recruitment and retention committee. And after I get some information [0:16:04, 0:16:11]: Uh, from this meeting, I'm gonna send an update to the members uh delegating tasks, but uh we meet the first Monday of every month. [0:16:12, 0:16:13]: Um [0:16:13, 0:16:17]: If you're not on the committee, you're open to to join. And if you have any questions. [0:16:17, 0:16:21]: about what we're doing and and what we plan to do, please shoot me an email or give me a call. [0:16:23, 0:16:24]: Okay. [0:16:25, 0:16:30]: So you all are at the first Monday of every month for business and rec recruitment and retention. [0:16:31, 0:16:31]: And [0:16:32, 0:16:32]: Um [0:16:33, 0:16:36]: You said also what time you all meet at six. [0:16:38, 0:16:41]: Yes. Okay. Just wanted to make sure we had a time check on that. [0:16:45, 0:16:47]: Okay, thank you, Mr. Peterson. [0:16:48, 0:16:52]: All right. Um that's all that I had um with regard to the [0:16:53, 0:16:59]: um training and then I know that I owe the new members um their board [0:16:59, 0:17:00]: Books [0:17:00, 0:17:06]: So those have not been completed yet, unfortunately. I will get those to you as soon as um [0:17:07, 0:17:09]: We can pool those together and [0:17:09, 0:17:12]: I will let you all know when they're ready for pickup. [0:17:12, 0:17:13]: Uh Mildred. [0:17:13, 0:17:22]: Yes, just I want to make sure I heard correctly because I got distracted. Uh the downtown business recruitment and retention, he said the first Monday or the third Monday. [0:17:23, 0:17:25]: The it's the first Monday he said. [0:17:26, 0:17:30]: Okay, um and we need to map okay the agenda. I'm sorry. [0:17:30, 0:17:34]: Yeah, that's true. Thank you. [0:17:34, 0:17:35]: Um [0:17:36, 0:17:37]: Madam Chair. [0:17:38, 0:17:38]: Yeah. [0:17:39, 0:17:41]: This is Councilman Thomas, Madam Chair. [0:17:41, 0:17:43]: Yes, sir. Um [0:17:44, 0:17:46]: Mr. Peterson, um [0:17:46, 0:17:50]: Would you please send me uh some information updates? [0:17:50, 0:17:53]: Um from your committee. This is Councilman Thomas. [0:17:54, 0:17:56]: Yes, sir. We'll do. [0:17:56, 0:18:00]: Thank you, sir. You can just email it to me. I appreciate any update. [0:18:00, 0:18:02]: Updated material that you have. [0:18:02, 0:18:03]: All right. [0:18:03, 0:18:04]: Thank you. [0:18:05, 0:18:07]: And uh thank you, Madam Chair. [0:18:07, 0:18:09]: Yes, sir. No problem. [0:18:15, 0:18:15]: Okay. [0:18:16, 0:18:19]: And now I will go into um [0:18:19, 0:18:22]: Old business with regard to my report. [0:18:22, 0:18:27]: Um and that's a good segue. We were talking about the work plan um committees. [0:18:27, 0:18:30]: As um mister Peterson mentioned. [0:18:31, 0:18:33]: The downtown business recruitment and retention meeting. [0:18:34, 0:18:35]: Uh committee has met. [0:18:36, 0:18:39]: And the downtown tourism product development um [0:18:40, 0:18:41]: committee has met. [0:18:42, 0:18:48]: The two committees that have not yet met are the downtown connectivity and design and downtown beautification. [0:18:48, 0:18:50]: And activation meetings. [0:18:50, 0:18:55]: Um those meetings had to be postponed um due to some scheduling conflicts that [0:18:56, 0:18:58]: I had um it's been a really [0:18:58, 0:18:59]: Really busy. [0:19:00, 0:19:05]: Um, end of the month for Lisa and myself and beginning of this month. [0:19:05, 0:19:08]: So I do apologize for um [0:19:08, 0:19:10]: having to move those meetings off. [0:19:10, 0:19:12]: Um to next month, but [0:19:12, 0:19:19]: Please um write these dates down for the downtown connectivity and design meeting is gonna be Tuesday. [0:19:19, 0:19:20]: November the second. [0:19:21, 0:19:23]: That's the first Tuesday of the month. [0:19:23, 0:19:25]: А сик п. [0:19:25, 0:19:31]: And then the downtown beautification and activation committee will be Wednesday. [0:19:31, 0:19:35]: November the tenth, which is the second Tuesday of the month. [0:19:35, 0:19:39]: Both meetings will be at six PM and I will send out [0:19:39, 0:19:40]: The um [0:19:41, 0:19:44]: Zoom information for you all to log in. [0:19:44, 0:19:47]: on those particular meetings if those are your committees. [0:19:47, 0:19:49]: So again, um [0:19:49, 0:19:51]: А тэн юофо є флесибилі. [0:19:51, 0:19:53]: An understanding with regard to [0:19:54, 0:19:57]: Самодіс метин час да окр. [0:19:58, 0:19:59]: Over the last month. [0:20:01, 0:20:02]: You see my [0:20:02, 0:20:13]: Yes, ma'am. Sorry to interrupt. Have a quick question regarding um the downtown beautification activate activation committee. Is it Wednesday the 10th or is it [0:20:13, 0:20:26]: Tuesday the ninth. It's gonna be Wednesday the tenth. I'm so I'm glad you brought that up and I had it highlighted here. That particular meeting is gonna be on Wednesday because again, I'm going to be I have another scheduling cover. I'm gonna be out of town. [0:20:27, 0:20:32]: Um on that Tuesday. So it'll be just for next month. It'll be on a Wednesday. [0:20:32, 0:20:39]: Um November the tenth and then it'll go back to the Tuesdays for the regular monthly meeting. Thank you for pointing that out. [0:20:40, 0:20:41]: Okay, thank you for clarifying. [0:20:42, 0:20:43]: Not Kira. [0:20:44, 0:20:45]: Yasmea. [0:20:45, 0:20:47]: What was the first um [0:20:48, 0:20:51]: Board meeting you you said on November the second it [0:20:51, 0:20:55]: That's the Downtown Connectivity and Design Committee meeting. [0:20:56, 0:20:56]: Okay. [0:20:57, 0:20:58]: Okay. [0:20:58, 0:21:03]: Downtown beautification and activation are on that Wednesday, November 10th. [0:21:04, 0:21:07]: Thank you. And both will meet at six PM. You're welcome. [0:21:08, 0:21:10]: Okay, anyone else? [0:21:11, 0:21:11]: All right. [0:21:13, 0:21:16]: So that concludes the um old business that I had. [0:21:16, 0:21:20]: uh with regard to um new business [0:21:20, 0:21:22]: We have received um two. [0:21:23, 0:21:26]: Um request one is for [0:21:26, 0:21:27]: Um [0:21:29, 0:21:29]: They [0:21:30, 0:21:33]: Sigma gamma rose aurority has [0:21:33, 0:21:35]: is interested in sponsoring [0:21:36, 0:21:37]: Um a little free library. [0:21:38, 0:21:39]: Um [0:21:39, 0:21:46]: I have pitched the little free library that is planned for the dog park location in Clark Park. [0:21:47, 0:21:53]: Um, they have stated that they are interested in being a part of the program and [0:21:53, 0:21:55]: Would like to um [0:21:56, 0:21:57]: Come on board with that. [0:21:58, 0:22:00]: And so I wanted to present that to. [0:22:01, 0:22:02]: Our um membership. [0:22:03, 0:22:04]: To [0:22:04, 0:22:07]: See if that was something that you all would be in favor of. [0:22:08, 0:22:10]: Um basically [0:22:10, 0:22:11]: The [0:22:11, 0:22:17]: Um c they would cover the cost of creating the um box, all of the materials needed. [0:22:17, 0:22:20]: For creation of the box, and then they would. [0:22:21, 0:22:23]: put in the first um [0:22:24, 0:22:28]: supply of books for that particular location. [0:22:32, 0:22:36]: So I need to know from you all if that is a um [0:22:36, 0:22:39]: partnership that you all are interested in. [0:22:39, 0:22:41]: um entertaining. [0:22:41, 0:22:44]: Um madam director, this is uh [0:22:44, 0:22:47]: Billy Hopkins, I think this is a great partnership. [0:22:47, 0:22:48]: With um [0:22:49, 0:22:56]: City McGovern Raw, hopefully in the future we'll get all the divine nine a part of this initiative. So I think it's a great partnership. [0:22:57, 0:22:58]: Okay. [0:22:59, 0:23:02]: So is that a motion to move forward with that? [0:23:04, 0:23:05]: Uh I will move. [0:23:06, 0:23:12]: I make the motion. Uh I move that we partner with the Senate McGamba Rose to support a free little library at Clark Park. [0:23:14, 0:23:16]: At the cost of at the cost. [0:23:16, 0:23:17]: Oh, Simon Gambah Red. [0:23:17, 0:23:18]: Okay. [0:23:18, 0:23:21]: I second. Councilman Thomas, I second. [0:23:22, 0:23:22]: Right. [0:23:23, 0:23:30]: I would like to add just to discussion that um this is a great idea and when we look back to our mission. [0:23:30, 0:23:39]: Um prior to our meeting, I know there there was a little discussion that I kind of got to tell in of that we wanted to ensure that everything we do, we don't forget our mission. [0:23:39, 0:23:44]: That cultivating artistic expression is checked off with this particular um endeavor. [0:23:44, 0:23:47]: Um uh nurturing our community spirit. [0:23:47, 0:23:48]: Um [0:23:48, 0:23:49]: And [0:23:50, 0:24:03]: indirectly, it could bring in some economic vitality if someone is in that area and then they pop over to our downtown area. So just didn't want us to lose um sight of our mission when we make decisions. Thank you. [0:24:03, 0:24:04]: Okay. [0:24:05, 0:24:05]: Thank you. [0:24:08, 0:24:11]: Okay. You'll have to call for the vote. [0:24:12, 0:24:14]: Yes, is there any additional discussion? [0:24:16, 0:24:22]: Okay, hearing none, we'd like um you when you hear your name to please acknowledge if you're for this um [0:24:23, 0:24:26]: move motion to carry. Um Miss Camacho. [0:24:26, 0:24:27]: Yes. [0:24:27, 0:24:29]: Thank you, Miss Finley. [0:24:30, 0:24:32]: Yes, thank you. [0:24:32, 0:24:33]: Mr. Firch. [0:24:34, 0:24:34]: Yes. [0:24:35, 0:24:36]: Thank you, Miss Gibson. [0:24:37, 0:24:38]: Yes. [0:24:38, 0:24:38]: Thank you. [0:24:40, 0:24:41]: Mr. Hopkins. [0:24:41, 0:24:42]: Yes. [0:24:42, 0:24:43]: Thank you, Mr. Horton. [0:24:46, 0:24:47]: Yes. [0:24:47, 0:24:49]: Thank you, Miss Jones. [0:24:50, 0:24:50]: Yes. [0:24:52, 0:24:55]: Thank you. Miss Potts is myself, yes. Miss Reed? [0:24:55, 0:24:56]: Yes. [0:24:56, 0:24:58]: Thank you, Mr. Thomas. [0:24:59, 0:25:00]: Yes. [0:25:00, 0:25:01]: Thank you. [0:25:01, 0:25:04]: Um it has been properly moved and [0:25:04, 0:25:08]: And it carries and second it. Thank you. And I return it back to Ms. Brux. [0:25:09, 0:25:14]: Okay, thank you very much. Um the other item that we have um [0:25:15, 0:25:16]: Із um [0:25:18, 0:25:23]: A partnership request with the Stockbridge Um Youth Council. [0:25:24, 0:25:27]: Um, they are looking to host [0:25:27, 0:25:30]: A drive in movie? [0:25:31, 0:25:32]: Um they are [0:25:33, 0:25:37]: Planning for that to be a holiday drive in movie in the [0:25:37, 0:25:38]: Um [0:25:38, 0:25:41]: I guess tentative date of they have to get [0:25:41, 0:25:42]: Permission from [0:25:43, 0:25:44]: The city council [0:25:44, 0:25:45]: Would be [0:25:46, 0:25:49]: Um December the eighteenth, I think it is. [0:25:49, 0:25:51]: Yes, December eighteenth. [0:25:51, 0:25:56]: And they are asking for the Main Street ev um program. [0:25:56, 0:26:00]: To partner with them in helping to bring [0:26:00, 0:26:02]: The movie um [0:26:03, 0:26:04]: to the community. [0:26:04, 0:26:11]: Um this would be assistance with the actual cost of the um [0:26:12, 0:26:13]: Movie. [0:26:13, 0:26:18]: They have not selected the movie yet, so that will definitely factor in the cost. [0:26:19, 0:26:20]: And [0:26:20, 0:26:21]: If it's in [0:26:21, 0:26:26]: That means if it's for the licensing, the cost is basically the licensing and [0:26:26, 0:26:29]: having the projection company come and [0:26:29, 0:26:31]: Um, deliver the movie. [0:26:32, 0:26:32]: That [0:26:33, 0:26:36]: will depend on the type of movie that they select. [0:26:36, 0:26:45]: That means, for example, if it is a Disney movie, the cost will be much more than possibly a Pixar movie or a [0:26:45, 0:26:46]: A Dreamworks movie. [0:26:47, 0:26:48]: So [0:26:48, 0:26:53]: I don't have a whole lot of information. This was just brought to me a few days ago. [0:26:55, 0:27:00]: So I don't know if you all are ready to make a decision with regard to that. [0:27:00, 0:27:07]: But from what I understand, they are um needing some assistance with um paying for the movie. [0:27:07, 0:27:09]: They have not um [0:27:09, 0:27:13]: Told me whether or not they would need us to. [0:27:13, 0:27:17]: assist as we have with our movies being on site. [0:27:18, 0:27:19]: Um [0:27:19, 0:27:24]: In the COVID situation, I don't think that they would be doing the popcorn as we usually do. [0:27:24, 0:27:26]: With our movies. [0:27:26, 0:27:30]: Um, but I don't have a whole lot of detail, but the date is the eighteenth. [0:27:31, 0:27:36]: And they are interested in us helping them at least pay for bringing the movie to the com [0:27:36, 0:27:37]: to the community. [0:27:38, 0:27:42]: So is there any discussion or interest in? [0:27:42, 0:27:43]: Um [0:27:43, 0:27:46]: This particular partnership with the Stockbridge Youth. [0:27:46, 0:27:47]: Um [0:27:47, 0:27:48]: Council. [0:27:49, 0:27:55]: Uh madam director, I have a question. Yes, sir. I think I think this is a good initiative. [0:27:55, 0:28:03]: Uh to bring footprints back down to downtown. Anytime we get an opportunity to bring folks to our downtown area, I think it's an opportunity for us to. [0:28:03, 0:28:04]: Um [0:28:04, 0:28:12]: use that that that community connection to the community. So uh but but I have a question. Uh yes sir previous years [0:28:13, 0:28:22]: uh prior to the amphitheater, we normally use the lawn outside of City Hall, but where would this be located now since the amphitheater is up? Is it is gonna be that location, what location, how are they referring to? [0:28:22, 0:28:38]: They are looking at um different location. My recommendation to them was to use the parking lot that has been created by the amphitheater. Um it has numerous spaces and it's on an um incline. So you know they might be able to put [0:28:39, 0:28:44]: movie at the top of the um parking lot and people would be able to park and be able to see. [0:28:44, 0:28:46]: Um the [0:28:46, 0:28:47]: The screen. [0:28:47, 0:28:49]: Фромер карсь. [0:28:49, 0:28:50]: Um [0:28:51, 0:28:58]: Again, they have not made that decision yet, but that was my recommendation since it's a drive in that they are proposing. [0:29:00, 0:29:10]: So it is it is it fair to say that uh prior to them getting approval by the city council for this this this this um [0:29:10, 0:29:22]: the a permit to have the the collaboration go ahead on approve the collaboration so they'll have some stake in the game when they do try to uh get this permit to have this moving. [0:29:24, 0:29:36]: Um is your question uh I wasn't understanding your question. I'm sorry. My question is, is it that they go ahead we go ahead on approval the collaboration with them, the partnership with them prior to them getting the permit? [0:29:36, 0:29:39]: So they know that the main street board is supportive of what they're trying. [0:29:39, 0:29:42]: to accomplish and since they're asking us to be a part of. [0:29:43, 0:29:44]: Okay. [0:29:44, 0:29:55]: Um yes, we could move forward with the recommendation um or approving that we will um work with them in some way, um, which would be yet to be determined. I think that they're asking for [0:29:56, 0:30:02]: uh monetary support and this would be something that we would be able to do through our promotions budget. [0:30:03, 0:30:09]: Um and as you see, we have barely touched that due to the um COVID situation. So we do have [0:30:09, 0:30:12]: Ample funding to be able to [0:30:12, 0:30:14]: Um, assist with that. [0:30:14, 0:30:21]: Um, I don't know if they are asking for assistance on the ground, like feet on the ground with regard to [0:30:21, 0:30:26]: helping um deliver the event like helping people park or [0:30:27, 0:30:30]: distributing refreshments or anything like that. [0:30:30, 0:30:34]: Um that has not been um solidified yet. [0:30:35, 0:30:38]: Have they identified the total amount that they're asking? [0:30:39, 0:30:41]: Um that again is [0:30:41, 0:30:46]: something that would have to be determined by the movie that they select. [0:30:46, 0:30:52]: Um, I had to explain that to them um when they came to me with questions regarding [0:30:52, 0:30:53]: The movie that [0:30:53, 0:30:57]: their cost will be determined by the the movie that they select. [0:30:57, 0:31:02]: again, if they choose a very popular Disney movie, it's gonna cost more. [0:31:02, 0:31:03]: than a [0:31:04, 0:31:05]: Um [0:31:05, 0:31:08]: Ласт єр'з Писар муві, фезму. [0:31:08, 0:31:12]: Um it'll be a family friendly movie, so um [0:31:12, 0:31:14]: Those are usually um priced. [0:31:15, 0:31:15]: Um [0:31:16, 0:31:16]: And uh [0:31:16, 0:31:18]: Anywhere from the [0:31:19, 0:31:20]: five hundred to [0:31:20, 0:31:25]: Um fifteen hundred dollar range based on our experience with hosting the movies. [0:31:25, 0:31:31]: So we could approve an amount up to a certain point if that is what you would like to do. [0:31:34, 0:31:36]: Thank you, ma'am, Madam Director. [0:31:37, 0:31:41]: A Nika? Yes. Yes, Kira. So um [0:31:41, 0:31:44]: Because things are not um [0:31:44, 0:31:52]: Defined just yet. Um, could we give them a soft commitment? Um, me and another part of my question is um [0:31:53, 0:32:06]: Will they be meeting with each other and the um the council before our November 12th meeting, where by then they can have their details and would that allow enough time? [0:32:06, 0:32:22]: to get things in place if we um have our details, we know our numbers, we know the location, we know the equity they want from us before the actual event on the 18th. So it kind of feels like if we feel like we want to support it, but without enough details, it's kind of hard to [0:32:23, 0:32:26]: give a commitment, it's maybe what others are thinking. [0:32:26, 0:32:32]: Right. And I understand that. I think that they have a meeting um next week. [0:32:33, 0:32:38]: Um, so they would I can pose, you know, the different questions to them like we've been discussing here. [0:32:39, 0:32:39]: Um [0:32:40, 0:32:42]: you know, the level of commitment, the [0:32:42, 0:32:45]: um level of the monetary support. [0:32:45, 0:32:46]: And um [0:32:47, 0:32:51]: Whether or not they would need us to work the event. [0:32:51, 0:32:52]: Um with them. [0:32:53, 0:32:56]: And they pose those questions to their board. [0:32:57, 0:33:01]: Um, because this was the first time that they're attempting to do this type of activity. [0:33:02, 0:33:04]: I don't think that they realized um [0:33:04, 0:33:05]: Um [0:33:06, 0:33:08]: How much logistics needs to go into it? [0:33:09, 0:33:10]: So um [0:33:11, 0:33:16]: I think it would be best as you and um Mr. Hopkins have stated that we [0:33:17, 0:33:18]: Um [0:33:18, 0:33:23]: move forward with saying that we would like to support them. [0:33:23, 0:33:24]: And [0:33:24, 0:33:27]: With a soft commitment and then um [0:33:27, 0:33:30]: get more details and then make that final decision. [0:33:31, 0:33:33]: Um, at our by our next meeting. [0:33:35, 0:33:38]: Thank you. And this is something that if it is something that [0:33:39, 0:33:41]: You know, they urgently need a decision on. [0:33:42, 0:33:44]: I can send out um [0:33:44, 0:33:45]: A [0:33:45, 0:33:52]: um email to everyone asking for um support or in well whatever your vote would be. [0:33:52, 0:33:55]: With regard to the sport, once I have more details. [0:33:58, 0:34:01]: If that's something that you all would entertain. [0:34:02, 0:34:04]: Yeah, I would I would like that. [0:34:05, 0:34:09]: That looks that sounds a lot intr a lot more better than um [0:34:09, 0:34:20]: you know, just going into it because uh some of the questions that we have about the situation kind of opens it up to is it gonna be our event that they are [0:34:20, 0:34:40]: um participating with or is it going to be their event that we're going to help support? So I think answering a lot of those questions will really help our will help our position in that. So I agree with that soft commitment because I'm, you know, I'm all for it. But what that looks like, just to kind of, you know, break that down, I think that would help us out on making a more educated [0:34:40, 0:34:41]: Any decision. [0:34:42, 0:34:43]: Okay. [0:34:43, 0:34:53]: And um I do agree with that because you, um Mr. Hopkins, Ms. Potts, and several others on this call know how much it takes to put that event on. [0:34:53, 0:34:59]: when it's a physical uh when it's you know a regular event. So bringing in the cars and the driving part. [0:35:00, 0:35:05]: I think takes it to a whole nother level that um they may not have um [0:35:06, 0:35:11]: thought about all the way through. So we need to get a few more details with regard to that. [0:35:14, 0:35:17]: Okay, so what is you all's pleasure at this time? [0:35:18, 0:35:20]: I would need a motion and a um [0:35:21, 0:35:22]: And marching orders. [0:35:26, 0:35:29]: Okay, I'm calling for a motion um from [0:35:30, 0:35:33]: the board for uh what we would like to present. [0:35:35, 0:35:36]: At this time. [0:35:38, 0:35:40]: Well, I motion for the soft commitment. [0:35:41, 0:35:41]: Um [0:35:42, 0:35:49]: In lieu of getting more additional information after the meeting to answer some more questions and then for us to [0:35:49, 0:35:50]: Um [0:35:50, 0:35:51]: Take another vote. [0:35:52, 0:35:53]: Um at our next meeting. [0:35:54, 0:35:55]: Okay. [0:35:56, 0:35:58]: I second it, um, Madam Chair. [0:35:59, 0:36:05]: Thank you. Thank you, gentlemen, for um moving improperly seconding the um [0:36:06, 0:36:20]: commitment of uh well decision to make a soft commitment to this venture. Okay, we will move on with a vote. If you are in favor, please acknowledge with a yes. If you oppose, please state no. Ms. Camacho. [0:36:20, 0:36:21]: Yes. [0:36:21, 0:36:22]: Thank you. [0:36:23, 0:36:23]: Miss Finley. [0:36:24, 0:36:25]: Yes. [0:36:25, 0:36:27]: Thank you. Liz the birch. [0:36:29, 0:36:30]: Yes. [0:36:30, 0:36:32]: Thank you, Miss Gibson. [0:36:33, 0:36:33]: Yes. [0:36:34, 0:36:36]: Thank you, Mr. Hopkins. [0:36:36, 0:36:36]: Yes. [0:36:37, 0:36:38]: Thank you, Mr. Horton. [0:36:41, 0:36:42]: Yes. [0:36:42, 0:36:43]: Thank you, Miss Jones. [0:36:48, 0:36:49]: Miss Jones? [0:36:51, 0:36:53]: Maybe need it. Let's see. [0:36:54, 0:36:57]: I don't see her on the screen anymore. [0:36:58, 0:36:59]: Um okay. [0:36:59, 0:37:04]: She I guess we'll put her as an abstention for this particular one. [0:37:04, 0:37:06]: Yes, we'll do. [0:37:06, 0:37:08]: Potts, yes. Miss Reed? [0:37:09, 0:37:11]: Yes. Thank you. [0:37:11, 0:37:13]: Uh, and Mr. Thomas. [0:37:14, 0:37:14]: Yes. [0:37:15, 0:37:15]: Thank you, sir. [0:37:16, 0:37:18]: It has been properly moved and seconded. [0:37:18, 0:37:19]: Thank you. [0:37:20, 0:37:21]: Back to you, Miss Brights. [0:37:22, 0:37:27]: Okay. Um now I'd just like to provide you all with a few updates with regard to [0:37:28, 0:37:36]: Um the projects that we have on board. Um, as you all know, the um city's amphitheater. [0:37:37, 0:37:41]: Opened, uh we hosted a grand opening um concert. [0:37:41, 0:37:45]: On the twenty fifth, which was a huge success. The [0:37:45, 0:37:46]: Um [0:37:46, 0:37:48]: Space was sold out and [0:37:49, 0:37:53]: We had very swift ticket sales, so I was I'm very excited to report. [0:37:54, 0:37:55]: That it was a great event. [0:37:56, 0:38:02]: We have another concert coming up on October twenty-third that will be featuring um the artists. [0:38:02, 0:38:06]: Shaka Khan and um Freddie Jackson. [0:38:06, 0:38:08]: And tickets are on sale now. [0:38:09, 0:38:09]: Um [0:38:10, 0:38:14]: One hundred fourteen MLK Senior Heritage Trail, our white box project. [0:38:15, 0:38:19]: Um, I think I told you all that the contractor bid went out on September eighth. [0:38:20, 0:38:21]: And there was a contract. [0:38:22, 0:38:26]: Контрактор сайте візит хостел о Октобер Фіфт форс. [0:38:27, 0:38:30]: Who are bidding on that project to come and actually see the site. [0:38:31, 0:38:32]: And look at um [0:38:33, 0:38:37]: And make their own notes and observations about the work that needs to be completed. [0:38:38, 0:38:41]: So that bid should be closing soon and we'll um [0:38:41, 0:38:45]: Keep you all updated on contractor selection and [0:38:45, 0:38:47]: When that project will start to um [0:38:48, 0:38:51]: move forward as far as construction is concerned. [0:38:52, 0:38:59]: Um, the Ted Strickland Strickland building is also in the bid process. We did host a site visit. [0:38:59, 0:39:00]: And um [0:39:01, 0:39:05]: Had quite a few contractors come to that particular site visit. [0:39:05, 0:39:05]: Um [0:39:06, 0:39:10]: So we're looking forward to that be it closing and being able to select a contractor. [0:39:11, 0:39:13]: for that particular site as well. [0:39:15, 0:39:22]: The alleyway project. Main Street hosted an alleyway um projection uh project presentation. [0:39:22, 0:39:27]: On September twenty seventh, thank you to all of you who um from the board attended. [0:39:28, 0:39:33]: uh representing the board and also um the business owners Linda and Greg who attended. [0:39:33, 0:39:37]: Um, business and property owners that is to attended the meeting as well. [0:39:37, 0:39:42]: I think that the um project overall was well received. There were some [0:39:43, 0:39:45]: Questions with regard to the design? [0:39:46, 0:39:46]: Um [0:39:47, 0:39:52]: concerns about um how some of the landscaping was created and [0:39:52, 0:39:54]: Also the plan for the [0:39:55, 0:39:55]: Um [0:39:56, 0:39:58]: Лат тобі гравел. [0:39:58, 0:40:01]: Um the if you go think about the [0:40:02, 0:40:07]: Um, area that's behind the Martin Luther King Senior Heritage Trail. [0:40:07, 0:40:08]: Um [0:40:08, 0:40:13]: businesses and between the Berk the Martin Luther King Senior Here Heritage Trail and Burke Street. [0:40:14, 0:40:17]: The property that the city owns back there where the alleyway project is um [0:40:18, 0:40:20]: Scheduled to take place. [0:40:20, 0:40:24]: There is currently just a grassy area and we wanted to [0:40:24, 0:40:25]: Um [0:40:25, 0:40:31]: You make that a uh graveled in um temporary parking lot and then also [0:40:31, 0:40:34]: Where there is asphalt that needs to be removed. [0:40:34, 0:40:40]: remove that asphalt and make that a a gravelled in um parking space. [0:40:40, 0:40:45]: um temporary so that when a developer is interested in that particular location. [0:40:46, 0:40:48]: they would be able to um [0:40:48, 0:40:49]: Come in. [0:40:50, 0:40:56]: And start their work, I guess a little easier than having to remove some asphalt. But there have been some concerns about that particular [0:40:57, 0:40:57]: Plan. [0:40:58, 0:40:58]: Um [0:40:59, 0:41:00]: direction. [0:41:00, 0:41:07]: So we are going to be meeting with all of the business owners. We have started conversations with [0:41:07, 0:41:08]: Um [0:41:08, 0:41:18]: s I said business owner, business and property only, mainly property owners, to talk with them about and get feedback from them on what their thoughts are about the plan. [0:41:19, 0:41:24]: And um try to move forward from there. But we're trying to get buy in from every property owner. [0:41:25, 0:41:30]: So that we can move this project forward and ever try to get as many people. [0:41:30, 0:41:32]: Um on board with it as possible. [0:41:33, 0:41:37]: Um, Greg and Linda, did you all have any comments with regard to? [0:41:38, 0:41:42]: That um plan and the meeting um that we hosted. [0:41:42, 0:41:44]: With regard to that, this was the first time that we were. [0:41:45, 0:41:46]: Actually bringing the project. [0:41:46, 0:41:48]: To the downtown property owners. [0:41:49, 0:41:50]: For their initial [0:41:51, 0:41:53]: Um comments and observations. [0:41:56, 0:41:57]: Linda or Greg. [0:41:59, 0:41:59]: Linda. [0:42:00, 0:42:05]: Uh yes, I I feel like it should be paved and not graveled. [0:42:06, 0:42:12]: It's just so many kids back there and they're always throwing rocks and things of that nature. [0:42:13, 0:42:33]: I have lots of rocks that were on the top of my building due to them just just I guess rocking the building. I'm not sure. And I'm not the only one that has a lot of that type of debris on top of their their buildings. I just think to make things look better and you know. [0:42:33, 0:42:38]: know, go from when we did our first RSVP, we were going to pave it. [0:42:39, 0:42:48]: It may cost whoever more to pave it, but I just think, you know, with the green space and paving it, it will look better than just having the gravel there. [0:42:48, 0:42:49]: Um [0:42:49, 0:42:51]: I really would like to see gravel there. [0:42:51, 0:42:58]: Well pavement pavement. I will s now you know that the alleyway will be paved. It's just the um [0:42:59, 0:43:00]: parking area that would [0:43:01, 0:43:03]: We had proposed to put gravel there. [0:43:03, 0:43:09]: So definitely there will be pavers along the alleyway. I just want to make sure that everybody understands that. [0:43:09, 0:43:10]: Okay. [0:43:10, 0:43:12]: Um Greg, did you have any? [0:43:12, 0:43:13]: Comments. [0:43:15, 0:43:22]: I'll I'll echo Linda's concern. I uh I've I've heard the logic for leaving the parking lot as gravel instead of being paved. [0:43:23, 0:43:32]: Uh and that main logic is really just to make it more attractive for developer. Um, I think it's reflective of the city's commitment to [0:43:33, 0:43:46]: design and beautification of downtown. And and that's part of uh I I want to make some a statement a little later during this meeting about things in general and that'll be part of it. But [0:43:46, 0:43:47]: That is reflective of [0:43:48, 0:43:52]: I I want to echo Linda's concern, and I know my neighbor Rod. [0:43:53, 0:43:56]: had the same concern about not paving that parking lot that [0:43:56, 0:43:59]: That it really needs to be paid. So [0:43:59, 0:44:00]: Okay. [0:44:01, 0:44:07]: All right. Well, thank you for um your comments. Did you all feel that the meeting went well? [0:44:10, 0:44:10]: Yeah. [0:44:14, 0:44:17]: Yes, I I I I'm glad we had the meeting. [0:44:19, 0:44:24]: I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm glad we did have the meeting. It brought out a lot of things and concerns. [0:44:25, 0:44:39]: And I do know that whatever we do here, it does reflect us as a board and as a city. Um, it reflects back to our statement also. So yes, it was a good meeting. Thank you. Okay. [0:44:39, 0:44:42]: Greg, you were kind of fading in and out. [0:44:43, 0:44:50]: Okay. Um I'm I'm also glad we had the meeting and it it was good seeing the property owners, so many of the property owners show up. [0:44:51, 0:44:57]: Um, but to be honest, I was a little disappointed in how the meeting went. I felt like the engineering group. [0:44:58, 0:44:58]: Um [0:44:59, 0:45:00]: While they are to present [0:45:01, 0:45:01]: The current [0:45:01, 0:45:07]: project plan weren't really prepared for any questions or concerns. Um [0:45:07, 0:45:18]: You know, even Rod immediately stating that he didn't like the idea of grasping against the back of his building basically shut the meeting down. Uh and I felt like the guys weren't prepared to [0:45:18, 0:45:38]: address issues or offer options or or to try to talk through and and continue moving the meeting forward. So I think we should kind of learn from that for future presentations in any development for downtown or that requires property owner or community participation. I think the meeting needs to be a little more [0:45:38, 0:45:41]: more prepared to deal with the group. So [0:45:42, 0:45:43]: Okay. [0:45:44, 0:45:46]: All right. Um Lisa. [0:45:47, 0:45:49]: Hey, good morning everybody. [0:45:50, 0:45:50]: Um [0:45:51, 0:45:56]: I I wanted to say I thought the meeting went well in spite of [0:45:56, 0:46:02]: The fact that it was not scripted and so it didn't go it didn't go down as a perfect conversation. [0:46:02, 0:46:05]: But I think that's good anyway. Um [0:46:06, 0:46:07]: This is [0:46:07, 0:46:09]: We've had meet and greets and invited [0:46:10, 0:46:12]: The downtown um business community. [0:46:13, 0:46:17]: openly to our different things. And this is the first time I've seen so many. [0:46:18, 0:46:22]: Come out and participate together. And I hope that this opens up. [0:46:22, 0:46:28]: our relationship with them so that we can continue to grow as a unit in the downtown. [0:46:29, 0:46:29]: Um [0:46:30, 0:46:32]: I agree with Greg that um [0:46:33, 0:46:37]: The conversation was a bit derailed and that was. [0:46:37, 0:46:43]: A lot of just different natural occurrences, you know, people's different opinions, people not necessarily [0:46:44, 0:46:49]: being prepared for the fact that these opinions would be different from what we presented. [0:46:50, 0:46:55]: But still there was a conversation that was organic. And I think we can just go from there. [0:46:56, 0:46:57]: Um [0:46:57, 0:46:58]: Yeah. [0:46:58, 0:47:02]: I'm just glad that we were able to get this much of it done and and [0:47:02, 0:47:05]: have a way to look forward to the future. [0:47:07, 0:47:07]: Okay. [0:47:08, 0:47:12]: Well, thank you very much all for that um commentary. I think that it went well. [0:47:13, 0:47:14]: Um as also [0:47:15, 0:47:18]: And I was glad to see so many people. [0:47:18, 0:47:22]: um willing to discuss and participate in the conversation. So [0:47:23, 0:47:23]: Um [0:47:24, 0:47:25]: It's [0:47:25, 0:47:30]: Going to change um some of our plans with regard to the design. I've already talked with [0:47:31, 0:47:32]: The um [0:47:32, 0:47:33]: engineering group about [0:47:34, 0:47:38]: Um making some changes to the design and when we talk to the individual. [0:47:39, 0:47:41]: Property owners uh will also be [0:47:42, 0:47:48]: incorporating um some of their comments as well, as well as these comments that we just heard today. [0:47:50, 0:47:50]: Okay. [0:47:51, 0:47:57]: Um, that's all that I had for um my report. I did want to just kind of [0:47:57, 0:47:58]: Um [0:47:58, 0:48:05]: throw it over to Lisa with regard to small business Saturday. We are um going to be um [0:48:06, 0:48:10]: Getting that off the ground here v very soon. [0:48:10, 0:48:12]: We're a little bit behind on our planning with that. [0:48:13, 0:48:14]: But um [0:48:14, 0:48:18]: Lisa has some ideas and we're going to be sending um a meeting. [0:48:18, 0:48:23]: um request to those who are interested in participating. I did want to ask [0:48:24, 0:48:27]: Um, if a lunch meeting is something that [0:48:27, 0:48:30]: uh people would be willing to entertain. [0:48:30, 0:48:33]: Um as opposed to an even meeting. [0:48:33, 0:48:34]: If that works for people. [0:48:39, 0:48:45]: I'm I'm sorry, Kira, are you asking if a a lunch meeting for the shop small um [0:48:45, 0:48:48]: Conversation would be better than an evening meeting? Yes. [0:48:49, 0:48:53]: I know that Greg, Linda, uh we had asked prayer and um [0:48:54, 0:48:58]: Vanessa to assist with those with that particular initiative. [0:48:58, 0:48:59]: Um [0:49:00, 0:49:05]: Is a lunch meeting something that you all would be able to do? That would be a a meeting around [0:49:05, 0:49:10]: Twelve o'clock. I know that you all are in your shops at that time or at work at that time. [0:49:10, 0:49:11]: But [0:49:11, 0:49:18]: Would a lunch meeting be amenable or is a six o'clock meeting um better suited for you all's schedules? [0:49:21, 0:49:24]: Preferably for me, a lunch meeting is better'cause I [0:49:25, 0:49:27]: work in the evening. Right. Okay. [0:49:28, 0:49:34]: It's according to what day and time that you want to have it. I know the time is twelve, but the day that you're having it. [0:49:35, 0:49:35]: Okay. [0:49:36, 0:49:39]: Your your shop is closed on Monday, correct? [0:49:39, 0:49:40]: Yes. [0:49:40, 0:49:43]: Okay. I know Greg is closed on Monday. [0:49:43, 0:49:44]: Um [0:49:44, 0:49:49]: Would Monday's a Monday lunch meeting work for um prayer and Vanessa? [0:49:51, 0:49:51]: Yes. [0:49:52, 0:49:55]: Yes, um a Monday lunch meeting would be fun. [0:49:55, 0:49:58]: Okay. And we'll definitely try to keep it to [0:49:58, 0:50:00]: Um under an hour. [0:50:01, 0:50:05]: uh with regard to that and um it'll be informal so if you want to [0:50:05, 0:50:07]: Eat while we're beating, that's fine as well. [0:50:08, 0:50:12]: Okay, Lisa. Um if you can note that, uh we'll try to get something on the schedule. [0:50:13, 0:50:14]: for this coming Monday. [0:50:15, 0:50:20]: Okay, and just another quick question to our um four merchants. [0:50:20, 0:50:25]: Would you be able to stay back on this call for a few minutes after we uh [0:50:25, 0:50:31]: and the advisory board meeting, um, just so that I can get some feedback and share a little bit more with you. [0:50:35, 0:50:39]: Greg said yes. Yes. Okay. Linda, how about you? Can you stay on a little longer? [0:50:40, 0:50:41]: Yeah. [0:50:42, 0:50:43]: You're muted. [0:50:47, 0:50:51]: Yes, I'll be driving, but I can stay on. Okay. [0:50:52, 0:50:56]: Prayer. Um, how about you? Can you stay on a little bit longer after this meeting? [0:50:59, 0:51:01]: She had to step away. Yeah, she [0:51:03, 0:51:04]: You're muted. [0:51:06, 0:51:14]: Yes, Nova and I will be able to stay a little house. Okay. Yes, okay, good. It won't be it won't be long since it's impromptu, okay. [0:51:15, 0:51:35]: That's fine. Yeah. She she she usually goes down for a nap. She she's been up since like um since 8:30. So she'll she'll be ready for a nap by 11, 11:30. Okay. So Rosio just um chatted that she has to leave at 10. Um, but she's also one of our merchants, and I would like to um reach out to her at another time. Hopefully she [0:51:35, 0:51:37]: She can make that Monday at noon meeting. [0:51:37, 0:51:39]: Thank you all. Um so [0:51:39, 0:51:40]: Here is um [0:51:41, 0:51:45]: What we've got going on for this year's Small Business Saturday. [0:51:46, 0:51:52]: I need to get together with Greg again. He and I have um done most of the brainstorming up till now. [0:51:52, 0:51:55]: And then um as Kira stated before. [0:51:55, 0:51:58]: All of September and October were. [0:51:59, 0:52:00]: Just [0:52:00, 0:52:05]: outrageous for us at the office. And so we're a bit behind. [0:52:06, 0:52:09]: But the idea was that um due to the pandemic. [0:52:10, 0:52:19]: Um, we did the virtual small business Saturday last year, which means we just encouraged folks to um shop online. We did um [0:52:19, 0:52:23]: We posted online videos of some of our small businesses. [0:52:23, 0:52:28]: And um just asked everyone to shop small as best they could. [0:52:28, 0:52:32]: So um we did not do a passport, but our passport. [0:52:33, 0:52:35]: In previous years was very popular. [0:52:35, 0:52:39]: So we wanted to kind of combine those things for this year and um [0:52:39, 0:52:45]: Create a passport, which means we've got to recruit the businesses that will be participating. [0:52:46, 0:52:58]: And we will try to create another batch of videos to add to the ones we that currently exist. Um, those were very, very popular online, and I think it helped introduce some of our businesses to. [0:52:58, 0:53:00]: People that were not aware of them before. [0:53:01, 0:53:01]: Um [0:53:02, 0:53:04]: But in addition to that, um [0:53:05, 0:53:06]: I'm drawing a blank here. [0:53:07, 0:53:11]: Um we Kira and I wanted to do a bit of a pop long. [0:53:12, 0:53:21]: So that it's not a selling pop-up. It's more like um we put up our blue umbrella, we go to a couple of different um [0:53:22, 0:53:23]: Well [0:53:23, 0:53:24]: Um [0:53:24, 0:53:26]: travelled um [0:53:27, 0:53:37]: Areas locations shopping locations where we think there are a lot of stores in place that um need a little highlight and where we can talk to a lot of passers by. [0:53:37, 0:53:41]: And ultimately, what we hope they do is not just shop on the [0:53:41, 0:53:43]: Saturday after Thanksgiving. [0:53:43, 0:53:46]: But instead we're going to ask them to shop. [0:53:46, 0:53:47]: throughout the month of November. [0:53:48, 0:53:50]: So they've got all month long. [0:53:50, 0:53:51]: To shop small. [0:53:52, 0:53:53]: Instead of asking them [0:53:54, 0:53:58]: Hey, do you think on that really busy holiday weekend when some of you are even out of town? [0:53:59, 0:54:01]: And some of our shops are not even open because it's not. [0:54:02, 0:54:04]: relevant to their business to be open. [0:54:04, 0:54:08]: Why don't you just participate with our local businesses? [0:54:09, 0:54:10]: throughout the month of November. [0:54:11, 0:54:11]: Um [0:54:12, 0:54:16]: And that's what we've got so far. Um, and I'd love to hear some feedback on that. [0:54:17, 0:54:20]: So we'll be hosting that meeting at twelve. [0:54:20, 0:54:35]: Um on Monday, I will send out the invitation to everyone. So if anyone else is interested in giving feedback and being a part of that particular effort, we will gladly welcome you all to help us with that. [0:54:36, 0:54:44]: Okay, thank you, Lisa. And the next item is the um DDA report. Um, Barber um is absent from our meeting today. She did tell me [0:54:45, 0:54:55]: that this is the um tax, I think deadline for the extended tax deadline or something. So she's got uh appointments all this morning. So she wasn't able to attend this morning. [0:54:55, 0:55:00]: Um so that brings us um to announcements and concerns. I'll throw it back to Anika. [0:55:04, 0:55:08]: All right, thank you so much. Um, Miss Braggs. Uh [0:55:11, 0:55:19]: Okay, great. Um, sorry about that. So um are there any announcements or concerns that we need to address during our meeting today? [0:55:23, 0:55:24]: Rayc has his hand up. [0:55:25, 0:55:25]: Yeah, madam. [0:55:26, 0:55:27]: Yes, sir. Madam Chair. [0:55:28, 0:55:31]: Yes, Mr. Hormuz. I I I just want to address [0:55:31, 0:55:51]: Thank you. I I just want to address a few things to the advisory board in general, just mainly as food for thought, but really it's going to be an expression of where I am as a member of the board, um having uh served on for over three years now. Um and [0:55:51, 0:55:55]: where we where I feel like we are. [0:55:58, 0:56:17]: I greatly respect and appreciate all the members of this board who dedicate their who volunteer their time and their efforts in trying to move uh our vision of of Main Street and the Main Street program forward in Stockbridge. Um and I know there's great things on the horizon, things that it appears things are beginning to [0:56:18, 0:56:21]: to fall in place and in jail um [0:56:21, 0:56:25]: And so that's that's exciting, but I think we need to [0:56:26, 0:56:30]: In order to walk into that horizon properly. [0:56:30, 0:56:32]: We need to take an assessment of [0:56:33, 0:56:34]: Where we are, um [0:56:35, 0:56:47]: And where Main Street is currently. Um and uh I have several concerns. Um uh one of them was kind of echoed in in Linda's expression of uh [0:56:47, 0:56:53]: paving the par uh parking lot as part of the alleyway project. You know, the alleyway project is something we've been asking for. [0:56:54, 0:57:05]: as business owners for over three years uh now. You know, we've been complaining about the alleyway for over three years and it it grew into this project. Um but but my concern is [0:57:07, 0:57:27]: It seems thus far that Main Street puts a lot of energy and effort into presenting things to the city and to the council, only to have them knocked down, shut down, slow walked. And if you were to take a picture, and I've asked this board this before, if you were to take a physical picture. [0:57:27, 0:57:30]: of Main Street now. [0:57:30, 0:57:32]: And compare it to Main Street. [0:57:32, 0:57:33]: Four years ago. [0:57:34, 0:57:36]: There's no change. [0:57:37, 0:57:57]: Other than you see a couple of parking signs up and you see more doors closed realistically. And that's that's frustrating and disappointing for me, especially with a city council who who's part of their vision and mission is that they intend for the city of Stockbridge to [0:57:56, 0:58:05]: To function better as a government and as a city than other cities. And they want to be progressive. [0:58:05, 0:58:07]: But I don't see that in their actions. [0:58:08, 0:58:11]: Um and I have several examples, and and I'll start with the amphitheater. [0:58:12, 0:58:15]: Um, now that we're past the grand opening and that excitement. [0:58:15, 0:58:23]: Um, I think it's fair to say, let's take a snapshot of the grand opening. And I know it was hugely successful and that it was a sold-out event. [0:58:23, 0:58:24]: Um [0:58:24, 0:58:25]: But [0:58:26, 0:58:38]: During the whole two years that the amphitheater was being built there, I was asking this board, I was asking the council, I was asking the city manager, what about parking? [0:58:38, 0:58:44]: And I was and and basically even in the main street uh in the downtown association meetings. [0:58:44, 0:58:51]: It you know, it's pretty well hammered at business owners that parking's not a problem. If you have a parking problem, then you have a problem. [0:58:52, 0:58:52]: Um [0:58:53, 0:58:57]: I don't th I don't think that's true for Stockbridge. Um [0:58:57, 0:59:01]: Kira, you know, I started complaining about parking because of the community center. [0:59:01, 0:59:05]: Um and and you even expressed that you know it's just wrong to have a community center. [0:59:05, 0:59:06]: On Main Street. [0:59:07, 0:59:14]: Because you know, that type of event center isn't really fair to the business owners in that whenever there's an event, all the parking disappears. [0:59:16, 0:59:18]: And so the city turns around and opens. [0:59:18, 0:59:21]: A thirty two hundred seat community center. [0:59:22, 0:59:24]: Right on Main Street, right in downtown. [0:59:24, 0:59:31]: And and uses downtown parking spots as part of their calculation for justifying their parking decisions. [0:59:31, 0:59:34]: So mid концерт on the opening night. [0:59:35, 0:59:38]: I walked all the way around downtown. [0:59:38, 0:59:39]: Mid concert. [0:59:39, 0:59:40]: Between Patty [0:59:41, 0:59:42]: And Ms. Steiner Ross. [0:59:44, 0:59:48]: And what I saw coming up East Atlanta Road from my house. [0:59:49, 1:00:00]: was cars parked on sidewalks on both sides of the street, cars parked all over yards and the green space, which tells me there wasn't enough parking. [1:00:01, 1:00:02]: But in addition [1:00:02, 1:00:08]: If the cars are being parked on the sidewalks, how is that fostering a walkable community? [1:00:08, 1:00:11]: In addition, up Bryant Street, the first [1:00:12, 1:00:14]: Res a residential subdivision. [1:00:14, 1:00:18]: Cars were parked on the sidewalks, in yards, on lawns. [1:00:19, 1:00:22]: We have to have a better answer. [1:00:22, 1:00:30]: As I continued up Main Street into downtown, not a single open parking spot was available. [1:00:32, 1:00:32]: And [1:00:32, 1:00:36]: I've been told, well, you close at six. Why does that matter to you? [1:00:36, 1:00:46]: Well, if downtown were but to come were to become more vibrant, I would want to extend my hours to welcome more customers, to be part of that environment. But if there's no parking [1:00:47, 1:00:48]: What's the point? [1:00:50, 1:00:55]: I even reached out to the bar owner. It's the worst Saturday night she's ever had. [1:00:56, 1:00:57]: She had her customers calling her. [1:00:58, 1:01:00]: Saying we can't find parking, we're going to other places. [1:01:01, 1:01:02]: How is that supporting? [1:01:03, 1:01:08]: A a vital business community and an economic development for downtown. [1:01:08, 1:01:13]: How does that present an image of attracting new business in downtown? [1:01:14, 1:01:34]: And that's reflected even more in what I believe is city hall's and the city council's mindset and view of downtown. It's reflected in the continual trash that happens here on Main Street, the continual motorcycles that park on the sidewalk that I've complained about multiple times. [1:01:34, 1:01:37]: Still happens on a weekly basis that doesn't get addressed. [1:01:38, 1:01:38]: It's [1:01:39, 1:01:40]: It's [1:01:41, 1:01:49]: Emphasized on the fact that 114, and I know that bids are out, but the city has owned that building for two and a half years. [1:01:50, 1:01:56]: And still the roof has holes in it falling in. There's plex glass in the front door. It's the most blighted building on the street. [1:01:57, 1:02:03]: So telling me that we've now got bids out for contractors two and a half years down the road doesn't make me feel good. [1:02:04, 1:02:08]: It just tells me that we're slow walking the process of developing. [1:02:08, 1:02:16]: Downtown making it attractive to other businesses. How can we bring business in when we maintain the most blighted building on the street? [1:02:16, 1:02:20]: Well, we don't maintain the most blighted building on the street is more accurate. [1:02:21, 1:02:21]: Um [1:02:22, 1:02:36]: Even in driving around, uh the amphitheater, if you if you if you come up Love Street to turn on the East Atlanta Road now, our state-of-the-art amphitheater is using orange traffic barrels to block the entrance to the park. [1:02:36, 1:02:40]: Is that the image we want to project to every one of our brand new amphitheater? [1:02:40, 1:02:45]: Амі і цій kind of details and this kind of aesthetics and image of downtown. [1:02:45, 1:02:48]: That the council does not take seriously. [1:02:48, 1:02:57]: And so it makes me question as we're forming all these committees about downtown beautification, connectivity, business retention, and [1:02:58, 1:02:59]: Recruitment. [1:03:00, 1:03:15]: The city has has the city signed off on all of this? They attended our joint meeting with the DDA, but has the city adopted our whole mindset and and and program and done a formal resolution to say they're gonna support what these committees bring forth? [1:03:15, 1:03:24]: Or are we just again slow walking and spinning our wheels, buying time for a big developer to come in and buy something so then we don't have to worry about it? [1:03:26, 1:03:27]: That's where I am. [1:03:27, 1:03:29]: And and so it also makes me question [1:03:30, 1:03:34]: Whether I want to continue my efforts, I I I serve on this board as a [1:03:35, 1:03:36]: Business owner in district. [1:03:37, 1:03:49]: for a reason uh that that those seat specifically exist on this board so that this board and presumably the city can get feedback from business owners in district. [1:03:50, 1:03:52]: And I feel like that that feedback has been ignored. [1:03:53, 1:04:00]: For four for three over three years, four years. Um, because the city council has a different vision. [1:04:00, 1:04:04]: And that's reflected in how much of the RSVP has been implemented at this point. [1:04:05, 1:04:08]: So I think this board needs to. [1:04:08, 1:04:12]: Reflect on where we are, what we're accomplishing. [1:04:12, 1:04:17]: And whether the city council really is supporting us or if we're just something [1:04:18, 1:04:22]: There to make the community feel good that yeah, we have a Main Street program. [1:04:22, 1:04:26]: But the s but the council and the city management, city manager. [1:04:26, 1:04:28]: doesn't support whatever we put forward. [1:04:29, 1:04:35]: That's also evident in the fact that we that Kira specifically came up with with the project of [1:04:35, 1:04:45]: uh presenting shipping container options for starting small business or even having little pop-up businesses in downtown as a catalyst. [1:04:45, 1:04:47]: To bring би new business and recruitment. [1:04:47, 1:04:48]: The city council [1:04:49, 1:04:53]: Immediately turned around and banned shipping containers with no explanation. [1:04:55, 1:04:56]: That's where I am. [1:04:57, 1:05:07]: That's where we are. I think we need to really look at that as we move forward and we send people out to sit on these various committees. We need to be thinking in our mind. [1:05:08, 1:05:14]: As we talk about our plans and lay things out, how much of this is supported by the council? Because that's ultimately where it falls. [1:05:15, 1:05:19]: And ultimately, where any success we have will either happen or not. [1:05:20, 1:05:22]: So thank you for the time and [1:05:22, 1:05:24]: Uh I I'd l I'd love to talk through. [1:05:25, 1:05:31]: these with any of you if if you feel the need or or have other questions. [1:05:32, 1:05:32]: But [1:05:33, 1:05:34]: I'll leave it there. [1:05:35, 1:05:36]: Okay. [1:05:38, 1:05:39]: Madam Chair. [1:05:40, 1:05:43]: Yes, sir. Thank you, Mr. Horton. And yes, Mr. Thomas. [1:05:43, 1:05:47]: Uh I'd like to respond to a couple of those things. Uh if I may. [1:05:47, 1:05:56]: Um it was quite a bit, so I'm gonna try to remember. Um I'm gonna start with the latest or the last uh injection about the containers. [1:05:57, 1:05:58]: Um [1:06:01, 1:06:04]: There was an entity I won't call a name. [1:06:04, 1:06:09]: Uh, that is no longer staffer, that is no longer with the city. [1:06:10, 1:06:19]: Uh they were able to and I know Miss Braggs and Lisa, I know y'all know uh about this and and Greg, you probably realize this as well. [1:06:20, 1:06:20]: Um [1:06:22, 1:06:25]: They were successful in stopping that. [1:06:25, 1:06:28]: Uh, because of their own personal [1:06:30, 1:06:43]: I don't don't want to use the word vendetta, but they was able to stop that because of that particular reason. But that person is not here any longer. Uh I will say that the council, the majority of the council at that time. [1:06:44, 1:06:47]: Uh could have gone forward with that with that, but [1:06:48, 1:06:51]: Uh, that staff had some influence over I know two. [1:06:52, 1:06:53]: The third one. [1:06:53, 1:06:55]: was a little closer to [1:06:56, 1:06:57]: Um [1:06:57, 1:07:01]: The owner of the fire station now. [1:07:01, 1:07:04]: So it only takes three council members to to make that decision. [1:07:05, 1:07:06]: So now [1:07:07, 1:07:09]: Responding to some of the other things. [1:07:10, 1:07:13]: the council and being a member of that council. [1:07:13, 1:07:16]: I I I would say that you're probably wrong. [1:07:16, 1:07:18]: When you said that the council [1:07:18, 1:07:22]: Uh, it's not favoring uh the Main Street initiative. [1:07:23, 1:07:27]: Uh one of the internal problems that we and I say that because [1:07:28, 1:07:31]: I just know for a fact that the council's not that that involved. [1:07:32, 1:07:35]: One of the problems that I see as an elected official. [1:07:36, 1:07:37]: uh internally [1:07:38, 1:07:42]: Um and if you're if you watch any of our council meetings or attend [1:07:43, 1:07:49]: You will see, and they and if you can see the emails, uh this council has pushed. [1:07:50, 1:07:52]: Push push initiative. [1:07:52, 1:07:55]: Uh to staff and I know Miss Bragg know too. [1:07:55, 1:07:58]: How how something was a slow walk. [1:07:59, 1:08:01]: And we could not get um [1:08:01, 1:08:02]: staff to move forward. [1:08:03, 1:08:08]: Now, you know, the um it all starts and stop with the city manager. [1:08:08, 1:08:10]: Uh he's not there now. [1:08:10, 1:08:12]: uh procurement [1:08:12, 1:08:15]: Uh it is an ongoing [1:08:15, 1:08:16]: Um [1:08:17, 1:08:20]: struggle right now with procurement. So [1:08:21, 1:08:25]: A lot of things, you know, if you know government, everything sort of channeled through procurement. [1:08:26, 1:08:30]: And we we are having constant battles right now. [1:08:30, 1:08:35]: uh with the way procurement uh operates. So it's not it's not the council. [1:08:36, 1:08:40]: Uh, all you know, the council has to set the policies. [1:08:40, 1:08:41]: And legislate. [1:08:41, 1:08:44]: But then staff has to be able to carry that out. [1:08:45, 1:08:46]: And so [1:08:46, 1:08:50]: I would say if there's a problem, it's a problem in staffing and not council. [1:08:50, 1:08:53]: 'Cause I know that the council's not in that lane. Now I will say [1:08:54, 1:08:56]: You probably do have two council members. [1:08:56, 1:08:59]: uh that is in that lane. But the majority of the council [1:09:00, 1:09:03]: Which is the consensus? No, they're not in that lane. [1:09:03, 1:09:08]: Um, but there's been some issues with procurement the way that [1:09:08, 1:09:17]: Uh they do business and the timeline. So uh we're struggling through that right now. And so that's something I won't get too deep in that, but [1:09:17, 1:09:37]: There are some issues going on with procurement. So a lot of these things have to go through that route and that and that's what some of the breakdown is. Uh the extent that you said something about the barrels, I I I think that just a a a lens. Uh some people may not even look at those barrels. Um, say like you, Mr. Horner. [1:09:37, 1:09:52]: I'cause I had never really thought about it until you just mentioned it. So I would just say, see, the th it's not nothing intentional, I I would say, with the council. I just think it's just the way certain folk look at some things. And I don't think that that never done on anybody about the barrel. [1:09:52, 1:09:55]: Now uh going to the parking [1:09:55, 1:09:58]: Uh you know, we knew. [1:09:58, 1:10:02]: coming in that, you know, Parkham was gonna gonna be somewhat of an issue. [1:10:02, 1:10:04]: So that's why we tried to [1:10:05, 1:10:25]: uh create as much as we could. And that's why I know for a fact that the city has worked with the schools, worked with the uh the subway down the street. Um they're trying to get the church. And after I think the church parked like the Baptist church had everything blocked off, but since that time they came in and asked [1:10:24, 1:10:29]: about the permitting part of it and so the city [1:10:30, 1:10:50]: uh was in favor and allowing all of these entities uh to create the parking. Now I know and Miss Braggs you may have been on that committee, but I know once they did the SWOT analysis, you know, the good and bad and the ugly, about what happened on that first night. And I did hear about the the parking on East Atlanta. [1:10:50, 1:10:55]: So I think we have to do a better job with that. Now we did hire [1:10:55, 1:10:58]: Henry County police to do some things. [1:10:58, 1:11:18]: probably we should have we should we should have hired more. But I will say going forward with the new uh city of Stockbridge Police Department, I think the future is bright uh when it comes to that concern. Uh but you know, we hired Henry County to do certain things. But I would I would agree that that issue on each elevat [1:11:18, 1:11:20]: down the road and the parking and [1:11:20, 1:11:30]: parking on the on the on the grassy area and things like that. Uh that was not permitted. Now uh on M L King um [1:11:30, 1:11:41]: I I know that could be a problem for the for the business owners because the one thing that we have talked about when you talked about the walkability and um businesses. [1:11:42, 1:11:45]: uh being able to capture [1:11:45, 1:11:58]: Um, you know, when we have the uh events at the amphitheater or even at the future of the the cultural arts, uh we want business owners uh on on Burke Street and ML King. [1:11:58, 1:12:00]: to be able to capture that because [1:12:00, 1:12:04]: You have three thousand people in downtown. [1:12:04, 1:12:24]: at the amphitheater and eleven o'clock when it's over, we know that folks were looking for somewhere to go after that. They were not ready to go home, but I do understand that uh there's no parking. And I know, Greg, if you wanted to stin your owls and the uh the pool hall wanted to do something, then you know I know [1:12:24, 1:12:44]: No, their patrons couldn't come in. So, but now that's the issue we got to work on. But I do know that once the uh cultural art facility is open, um, there's gonna be a number, I think it's like 200, 300 parking spaces that's gonna come all the way down to Burke Street from Burke Street. [1:12:44, 1:12:48]: all the way up to the uh cultural facility. So [1:12:48, 1:13:06]: future wise see that's where a lot of the uh overflow well not even necessarily overflow it's just it's just just be parking. I don't foresee the amphitheater and the cultural arts uh having you know competing with activities in the same night. I I don't think so but I don't know. But so [1:13:07, 1:13:14]: The only thing I wanna dispel is is is the comment you made about the council. And I just know the council is is not in that lane. [1:13:15, 1:13:19]: Uh we have pushed and pushed and even even with the alleyway. [1:13:19, 1:13:38]: We we pushed the city manager, and Miss Bragg knows this, uh, we have pushed the city manager at that time uh to move forward and it was just it was just a slow walk. I don't know why, but you know, emails every day. I mean, if you could if you could just see the emails that council members. [1:13:38, 1:13:41]: or was directed in to the city manager. [1:13:42, 1:13:56]: I mean, it was just overflowing just to move things forward. Procurement, we got issues right now with the with the with how the speed that things go through the system. So the only thing I wanna just dispel is that [1:13:57, 1:13:58]: Excuse me. [1:13:59, 1:14:08]: Uh the consensus of the council um is not the only thing that I was disappointed in was the consensus of the council that stopped the containers [1:14:09, 1:14:11]: And that was um [1:14:11, 1:14:14]: And and and Greg, you you know the person who who [1:14:14, 1:14:18]: injected that and uh and made that not happen. [1:14:18, 1:14:23]: Uh but that person is no longer with the city and which is you know, thank God for that. [1:14:23, 1:14:35]: Um but um I just know that the counts is is not in that lane. Um things were just slow. I know Ms. Braggs have tried to push the issue with the alleyway. [1:14:35, 1:14:41]: And and and and and again it went to that same person, but that person is no longer there. So hopefully [1:14:42, 1:14:43]: The new city manager. [1:14:44, 1:14:46]: would come in with a little bit more um [1:14:47, 1:14:51]: a little bit more fire and a little bit more um able to walk a little faster. [1:14:52, 1:14:55]: Uh but I think it was just something that was just built into that person. [1:14:56, 1:14:58]: Things were just slow for whatever reason, but [1:14:58, 1:15:01]: I'll only thing again, only thing I would dispel is no. [1:15:02, 1:15:03]: The council is not [1:15:04, 1:15:11]: No, council's not in that lane. I can't speak for two council members, but I can say that the consensus of the council [1:15:12, 1:15:25]: we are pushing and pushing and pushing and we just ran into a brick wall, uh, and trying to get some of these things to move m move forward. I can't remember everything that you you you you expound on, but the things that I can remember, um [1:15:26, 1:15:28]: I I I you know I c I could I can [1:15:28, 1:15:35]: uh you know respond to that now if you have a question that you want to reiterate i i'll try to speak to that i just can't remember [1:15:35, 1:15:37]: uh everything that you talked about, Mr. Hart. [1:15:39, 1:15:40]: Thank you. [1:15:41, 1:15:43]: So much both of you. Um [1:15:44, 1:15:45]: For your [1:15:46, 1:15:50]: Oh I'm sorry. Additional, I'm sorry. Yeah. Please do. Um [1:15:50, 1:15:57]: it as far as parking, that was really the the only thing that I could at least think of something something that came to mind. Um [1:15:57, 1:15:58]: Hearing [1:15:59, 1:16:10]: you know, expansion for like, you know, other and other parking lots going out. Um, just something we've experienced even um in the bakery when we are short on space and we can't go out, we go up. [1:16:10, 1:16:16]: So I don't know how feasible it is or if it will be, you know, reasonable or within a budget to build a parking deck. [1:16:17, 1:16:21]: There. Um I've heard thirty two hundred seats or something uh mentioned. [1:16:22, 1:16:27]: I'm not sure how many parking spaces are there now, but if a um parking deck [1:16:27, 1:16:33]: Could allow you know, that would just allow for multiple levels in the same space for not having to deal with other businesses. [1:16:34, 1:16:36]: I'm the only one in this conversation. [1:16:36, 1:16:39]: Well I I there has been [1:16:39, 1:16:44]: That that issue of a parking that has been uh in discussion [1:16:44, 1:16:59]: It's not completely off the table. Uh, but one of the things when you you mentioned finance is yes, um a parking deck is is very, very, very expensive, but it's not completely uh off the table. [1:16:59, 1:17:15]: uh for future consideration but we just know that uh right now twenty twenty one twenty twenty two twenty twenty three uh it's not gonna be possible because you know one thing you know um [1:17:15, 1:17:18]: Creating a police department. [1:17:18, 1:17:24]: Excuse me. Um been out on the campaign trail and it's, you know, sort of taking effect on me. But [1:17:25, 1:17:25]: Um [1:17:26, 1:17:30]: With the police department coming forward, see a lot of problems. [1:17:30, 1:17:33]: for enforcement, enforcing [1:17:34, 1:17:46]: Uh and that's one of the things that I've talked about, enforcing uh ordinances that we have passed. See, that's been one of the problems because Henry County would not enforce those. [1:17:46, 1:18:00]: With your own City of Stockbridge Police Department, see many of those things will be able to be enforced. So that's one of the reasons I've advocated for the creation of the City of Stockbridge Police Department. So [1:18:01, 1:18:21]: You will see a difference in uh some of those things and and and as well in in code enforcement. We did hire a supervisor and they all started getting up, but we still have complaints. We're complaining right now. I mean the council, we're complaining right now about some code enforcement issues because we are out there. [1:18:21, 1:18:26]: And we see this. Uh one criticism that I have with staffing [1:18:27, 1:18:33]: They don't live here in the city of Stockbridge and they don't go out. They don't ride out to sea. [1:18:33, 1:18:47]: uh public works director, the city manager, um, you know, community development director. We encourage, we push, we're demanding that staffers get out here in the city and see. [1:18:48, 1:18:57]: We are constantly, constantly reporting things back. And we should not have when I say report, I'm talking about council members. [1:18:57, 1:19:08]: We are flooding the city with things that we see in the community and that should not be. So I'm just saying to to this board, um, it's not the council. [1:19:09, 1:19:14]: Um we are pushing uh staffers and I say this all the time. [1:19:14, 1:19:19]: And when we pay staffers and we pay them handsomely. [1:19:20, 1:19:24]: So we expect more uh at our last council meeting. [1:19:24, 1:19:44]: uh we push back on two departments they got a little upset because we're pushing but we telling folks it's a new day uh in stockbridge and when we hire staffers we expect them to do the job we set the the council set the policies but we expect staff to carry those out [1:19:44, 1:19:53]: And I know y'all don't get a chance to see that and I know you don't see the results, but if you could see the emails, if if you could be uh internally. [1:19:54, 1:19:56]: And see where we are pushing. [1:19:56, 1:20:01]: then you would not have that opinion about counsel. Now I again [1:20:01, 1:20:04]: Um, you know, the consensus of the council. [1:20:04, 1:20:24]: It's not 100%, but they are in the minority. And I'll just put a plug in right now. That's why elections are so important. And it is important who sits on that city council in order to push. And Mr. Horton, I know you and I have had many conversations. So you know where I stand. You know who I am. [1:20:24, 1:20:33]: And so we push and push and and it pushes so hard. Sometimes folks resign and they they go other places if you if you catch my drift. [1:20:34, 1:20:35]: So but I'm just saying [1:20:35, 1:20:37]: This counts as pushing. [1:20:37, 1:20:40]: And we are re hiring we are we are demanding. [1:20:40, 1:20:42]: Higher standards from staffers. [1:20:43, 1:20:44]: People that we hire to come in. [1:20:45, 1:20:48]: But one thing and you know, Mr. Harding, it was some opposition. [1:20:48, 1:21:08]: to uh creating the City of Stockbridge Police Department. But we understand when it comes to uh patrolling and but mainly for for for this board uh uh information enforcing the ordinances that we pass, parking in the street and things like you just mentioned, uh all that on East Atlanta Road from the concert. [1:21:08, 1:21:11]: certain night. So a lot of these things will change. [1:21:11, 1:21:15]: But uh and I know, you know, you mentioned three years, four years. [1:21:15, 1:21:17]: Um, you know, I I [1:21:17, 1:21:21]: grew up here so I've seen some changes and it they've been slow changes. [1:21:22, 1:21:23]: Uh but I'm I feel [1:21:24, 1:21:26]: confident and I'm excited about the future. [1:21:27, 1:21:29]: And and that's what we are doing now. We are pushing. [1:21:30, 1:21:32]: I was saying now this will be my last comment. [1:21:32, 1:21:34]: Yes, there are some staffers. [1:21:35, 1:21:36]: That that uh you know [1:21:37, 1:21:38]: The they they have been wounded. [1:21:38, 1:21:40]: Their feelings have been hurt. [1:21:41, 1:21:42]: But when you accept a job. [1:21:43, 1:21:45]: And you're getting paid handsomely. [1:21:45, 1:21:47]: You know, all of that goes out of the door. [1:21:48, 1:21:50]: So we are demanding higher standards. [1:21:51, 1:22:01]: And but we're we we're holding folks accountable. Just do your job. When you're hired to do a job, we expect you to do it. But I know you all don't get a chance to hear or see some of that, but [1:22:01, 1:22:03]: The majority of this council. [1:22:03, 1:22:04]: Push it. [1:22:04, 1:22:17]: We pushed and pushed and pushed about this alleyway. And and the excuses were not acceptable. And so that that's sort of where we are right now. But uh we pushed for years on that. Cause you know, Greg, it's been on the books for the longest. [1:22:18, 1:22:19]: But we pushed every day. [1:22:22, 1:22:23]: Well [1:22:24, 1:22:28]: That was a very intense conversation and a needed conversation. [1:22:29, 1:22:35]: um for the sake of time for this meeting i do want to allow us to close out um [1:22:35, 1:22:55]: Mr. Thomas, we greatly appreciate your input. Um we have, as a board, pretty much the same vantage as Greg, and we can only see what's tangible. We can't see the day-to-day, but we appreciate you letting us know that that the fight is there and that you're doing everything you can at this time to get all [1:22:55, 1:23:15]: to um have some um outward expression of what's happening. Um so totally understand both perspectives. This board is here for a reason and we do need to assess what we're doing, why we're doing it, and are we just spinning our wheels? Um Madam Chair, Madam Chair, if I may [1:23:15, 1:23:24]: Any board member could call me at any time and Greg and I, you know, we talk often, but anyone can call me if they really want the um [1:23:24, 1:23:28]: The X rated version of that, uh, feel free to give me a call. [1:23:29, 1:23:32]: Thank you so much for putting that out there for us. We appreciate that. [1:23:32, 1:23:45]: Um, and we're very thankful you're on this board and that you do allow us to have um somewhat of a peek in um to how things are moving so that we can share that with the community as well so they know that things are moving. [1:23:45, 1:23:46]: Um [1:23:47, 1:23:49]: Miss Briggs, anything additional? [1:23:50, 1:23:53]: Um, I was going to say that um the points about the parking. [1:23:54, 1:23:58]: Um, in the yards and on the sidewalk that was brought to [1:23:58, 1:24:01]: the attention of the um [1:24:02, 1:24:08]: Um, c amphitheater committee that was working on the parking plan. Again, this was the first time. [1:24:08, 1:24:10]: that it happened because we actually had [1:24:11, 1:24:14]: A lot that was available for parking um the subway. [1:24:15, 1:24:18]: Sherman Williams, that shopping complex area. [1:24:18, 1:24:19]: That was almost [1:24:20, 1:24:22]: empty, it w it was not filled at all. [1:24:22, 1:24:25]: With regard to spaces so [1:24:25, 1:24:29]: I think that the management of the parking and directing people to [1:24:29, 1:24:30]: Parking. [1:24:30, 1:24:32]: Areas. Um we [1:24:32, 1:24:34]: Рекомендація some work be done. [1:24:35, 1:24:36]: And um public information. [1:24:37, 1:24:43]: um be put out there that that lot is available for people to park. It wasn't empty. There were people parking there. [1:24:44, 1:24:44]: But [1:24:45, 1:24:49]: Um, some of those people who had parked on the sidewalks and that sort of thing. [1:24:49, 1:24:54]: Um could have been directed there and should not have been allowed to park. [1:24:55, 1:25:00]: on the sidewalks, especially on East Atlanta Road, where we had a police presence. [1:25:01, 1:25:02]: And um [1:25:02, 1:25:10]: They could have said, you know, move those cars along instead of allowing them to park on the grass and to park on the sidewalks. [1:25:10, 1:25:14]: So that was a concern that was um put forward to. [1:25:15, 1:25:19]: Um, the police who were managing traffic at that time, but [1:25:20, 1:25:27]: We did get the response that they were there to move cars in and out of part of the parking area, ingress and egress. [1:25:27, 1:25:32]: They were not responsible for telling people where to park and telling them where not to park. [1:25:32, 1:25:36]: So that was something that is gonna have to be addressed. [1:25:36, 1:25:41]: Going forward with the next concert and future concerts as well that [1:25:41, 1:25:45]: They cannot allow people to park there. I don't know if those cars can be ticketed. [1:25:46, 1:25:54]: Um, you know, or at least g receive some sort of warning so that they will not do that again. It's basically people don't want to walk and that's [1:25:54, 1:26:00]: Um unfortunate because every other amphitheater, whether it's Chastain or you know, wherever else. [1:26:00, 1:26:06]: People have to park walk to the amphitheater from their um designated parking areas and [1:26:06, 1:26:08]: That was just people wanting to. [1:26:08, 1:26:09]: Be able to [1:26:09, 1:26:14]: just walk a few steps to the amphitheater and they were not prevented from doing so. [1:26:15, 1:26:18]: As far as the um downtown area is concerned. [1:26:19, 1:26:24]: Um we are going to have to look at that and possibly have someone post it. [1:26:25, 1:26:28]: In that area to make sure that [1:26:29, 1:26:35]: concert goers are not parking in those spaces. I don't know how to police that. That's something we're gonna have to talk about. [1:26:36, 1:26:38]: in another meeting, I guess, or offline. [1:26:39, 1:26:41]: to get some ideas on how to manage that because [1:26:41, 1:26:43]: That's the that's the com [1:26:43, 1:26:48]: That is the conversation that all of these cities are having that have amphitheaters. [1:26:48, 1:26:52]: Um that the downtown gets inundated during the um [1:26:53, 1:26:55]: During concerts and special events. [1:26:55, 1:26:59]: parking in front of the businesses. So we're not the only ones that are [1:26:59, 1:27:00]: having that [1:27:01, 1:27:03]: That dilemma and having to deal with [1:27:03, 1:27:06]: those issues. So these are things that [1:27:06, 1:27:08]: Are gonna have to be figured out. [1:27:09, 1:27:13]: Um, I don't know the answers. Perhaps we can talk to other Main Street programs. [1:27:14, 1:27:16]: Who work with these types of situations? [1:27:16, 1:27:20]: Um and that's all I'm gonna say right now'cause I I know we're going [1:27:20, 1:27:23]: very long and I want to be able to dismiss everyone. [1:27:24, 1:27:26]: Um, so that you all can go on about your day, but [1:27:27, 1:27:30]: If it's something that you would like to help us work on. [1:27:30, 1:27:35]: Um and be a part of that conversation and a part of those bringing those ideas forward. [1:27:36, 1:27:38]: Two um parking control. [1:27:38, 1:27:45]: And um ingress and egress, please let me know because we need fresh ideas and we need a lot of um [1:27:46, 1:27:52]: Eyes, ears, and brains on this one because it's not an easy answer and we're not the only ones that are having to deal with it. [1:27:56, 1:28:09]: Thank you so much, Ms. Braggs. Um my phone is literally about to um lose power, so I had to turn off my video. Sorry about that. Um so at this time we would like to um have a motion to adjourn our uh October meeting. [1:28:10, 1:28:12]: Uh at uh [1:28:12, 1:28:13]: Let's see. [1:28:14, 1:28:15]: Ten thirty four AM. [1:28:15, 1:28:16]: Do we have a motion? [1:28:17, 1:28:20]: Madam Chair, I move we adjourn at 10 34 A.M. [1:28:21, 1:28:35]: Thank you, Mr. Hopkins. Thank you, Mr. Firch. We will take a roll call really quick to acknowledge everyone's vote on this ending of our meeting. Thank you all for your time today and for the wonderful conversation and input. [1:28:36, 1:28:40]: I believe Ms. Camacho has left the meeting, but I will still call it her name, Ms. Camacho. [1:28:42, 1:28:43]: We'll put her as an abstention. [1:28:44, 1:28:45]: Thank you. [1:28:45, 1:28:46]: Miss Finley. [1:28:47, 1:28:47]: Yes. [1:28:48, 1:28:50]: Thank you. Mr. Firch. [1:28:50, 1:28:51]: Yes. [1:28:52, 1:28:53]: Thank you, Miss Gibson. [1:28:55, 1:29:00]: Yeah, I think she may oh she's present. Thank you. Uh Mr. Hopkins. [1:29:00, 1:29:00]: Yes. [1:29:01, 1:29:02]: Mr. Hutton. [1:29:04, 1:29:05]: Yes. [1:29:05, 1:29:07]: Thank you, Jones. [1:29:08, 1:29:09]: We have departed as well. [1:29:10, 1:29:13]: Okay, upstairs. No, she's waving her hand. [1:29:14, 1:29:17]: Okay, that's a yes. Miss Potts, yes, Miss Reed. [1:29:18, 1:29:19]: Yes. [1:29:19, 1:29:21]: And Mr. Thomas. [1:29:22, 1:29:25]: Mr. Harden, give uh councilman Thomas a call and I say yes. [1:29:26, 1:29:36]: Thank you, sir. Um, all those that um need to depart from this meeting, please do. Thank you so much for your time. Have a great rest of the uh weekend and we will see you soon. [1:29:37, 1:29:43]: Um, and I'll say that we will bring up um the parking in our um downtown connectivity meeting. [1:29:44, 1:29:48]: Um, because I think that that would be the best um group to [1:29:48, 1:29:51]: Just kind of brainstorm and think about this parking issue. [1:29:52, 1:29:56]: And um we'll address some of the other things that um Mr. Horton. [1:29:56, 1:29:58]: Has brought um to the table. [1:29:58, 1:30:06]: Um, through the our committee system and um with this board because we do want to make sure that we are staying on the [1:30:07, 1:30:09]: Absolutely. Mr. Horton, you had something? [1:30:11, 1:30:20]: Um just uh Kira, uh if if we're gonna bring that up with the uh connectivity committee, can we uh get the new police chief's involvement in that? [1:30:21, 1:30:24]: Yes, I can ask him to be a part of the discussion. [1:30:27, 1:30:30]: Thank you for the thank you for the suggestion. [1:30:32, 1:30:32]: Thank you. [1:30:33, 1:30:34]: All right. [1:30:34, 1:30:38]: All right guys, we just gotta stay we gotta stay the the on this path. It's hard. [1:30:38, 1:30:49]: It's very hard, but we are slowly making some progress and we need to definitely keep our grind going and keep everyone accountable and stay connected. [1:30:49, 1:31:01]: Have a fantastic day. Thank you all. Thank you. And hello to all my little visitors. I see my little Nova and my little shamari. Yay. [1:31:02, 1:31:05]: Fantastic. [1:31:06, 1:31:11]: Little Shamari has just been quiet. Yeah, he's very concerned. [1:31:12, 1:31:18]: Bye everyone, everybody. Bye. Have a good one. [1:31:21, 1:31:21]: Mm. [1:31:22, 1:31:29]: Okay, I will try not to keep everyone long since we went over a little bit um with our other conversation. Um [1:31:30, 1:31:31]: I do think it was [1:31:31, 1:31:34]: good conversation and necessary, but we'll [1:31:34, 1:31:36]: Не то ревизит that at a different point. [1:31:36, 1:31:40]: Um, as far as small business Saturday, um [1:31:40, 1:31:45]: You heard the um ideas we have and now that we are [1:31:45, 1:31:49]: at November's door we have to move quite a bit more quickly. [1:31:50, 1:31:54]: Um, so I was hoping to get some feedback on um [1:31:55, 1:31:57]: Вот ви впут форд софа. [1:31:57, 1:31:59]: Um as ideas and [1:31:59, 1:32:04]: find out what you think of it and what suggestions you have that I can begin um [1:32:05, 1:32:10]: considering and maybe implementing as we get closer to the last week of October. [1:32:11, 1:32:12]: Anybody. [1:32:15, 1:32:18]: Wait, let me understand your question, say it again. I'm sorry. [1:32:19, 1:32:20]: Yes, I'm sorry. [1:32:20, 1:32:23]: So I I gave a recap um earlier. [1:32:23, 1:32:26]: of what we hope to do for [1:32:26, 1:32:27]: Um [1:32:27, 1:32:30]: Shop small season, I'm calling it. [1:32:30, 1:32:34]: Um, for twenty twenty one rather than just making it um small business Saturday. [1:32:35, 1:32:39]: And you know, we described that um Kira and I will choose. [1:32:39, 1:32:40]: A few um [1:32:41, 1:32:43]: Locations around the city that [1:32:44, 1:32:47]: seem to have good foot traffic um at their plazas. [1:32:48, 1:32:50]: Um and just pop up there. [1:32:50, 1:32:55]: To encourage the community to continue to shop throughout the month of November as opposed to [1:32:55, 1:32:57]: Only on the Saturday after Thanksgiving. [1:32:58, 1:33:00]: Um and also that we would [1:33:00, 1:33:03]: Go ahead and implement a new batch of um [1:33:05, 1:33:09]: s videos, particular business videos. Um [1:33:09, 1:33:16]: And I I think that's kind of it. You know, the fact that we'll promote it for the entire month of November as opposed to a single day. [1:33:16, 1:33:16]: And [1:33:17, 1:33:17]: Um [1:33:18, 1:33:22]: The fact that we will go around the city encouraging and showing up. [1:33:23, 1:33:26]: You know, to remind everyone what we're looking forward to. [1:33:26, 1:33:28]: I just need more um [1:33:28, 1:33:29]: Feedback. [1:33:29, 1:33:32]: From our merchants as to um [1:33:33, 1:33:35]: their particular um [1:33:35, 1:33:36]: perspectives. [1:33:36, 1:33:38]: From their business's angle. [1:33:39, 1:33:40]: What do you think and what can we do? [1:33:41, 1:33:41]: So [1:33:42, 1:33:43]: improve this idea. [1:33:44, 1:33:50]: Well, I'm thinking that we definitely need to do a pop-up in the um food depot parking lot. [1:33:51, 1:33:53]: I think that that would be a good location to [1:33:54, 1:33:55]: Just have [1:33:55, 1:33:57]: Our table, our kiosk. [1:33:57, 1:34:00]: Giving people information about the um [1:34:01, 1:34:07]: support of our small businesses during the month of November and then especially on small business Saturday. [1:34:08, 1:34:12]: Um I know that because that's a downtown location, um I [1:34:12, 1:34:15]: Really like that particular location. [1:34:15, 1:34:18]: And they are very busy, you know, all through the day. [1:34:18, 1:34:19]: Um [1:34:21, 1:34:26]: Because we are somewhat shorter on time than I had anticipated we would be. [1:34:27, 1:34:27]: Um [1:34:28, 1:34:32]: I don't think there we'll be able to do quite as many pop-ups. Um [1:34:32, 1:34:34]: I'm thinking two to three. [1:34:35, 1:34:36]: For this season. [1:34:36, 1:34:38]: Um, so I'm [1:34:38, 1:34:46]: willing to hear about any other locations that I mean the the area where prayer is located is pretty busy. [1:34:47, 1:34:48]: Um [1:34:48, 1:34:52]: So that might be a good location since we have a a business that is [1:34:52, 1:34:56]: participating in our effort to, you know, get the word out there. [1:34:57, 1:34:58]: Um [1:34:58, 1:35:02]: Are there any other recommendations for doing a pop-up? [1:35:04, 1:35:08]: Could you clarify? What area is prayers? Um I'm sorry I'm [1:35:08, 1:35:11]: Prayer is located on um [1:35:12, 1:35:16]: Um North Henry Boulevard by the churches chicken and [1:35:16, 1:35:17]: Um [1:35:17, 1:35:20]: What else is in that player as a [1:35:20, 1:35:27]: There's a beauty supply. [1:35:28, 1:35:29]: A beauty supply, yeah. [1:35:30, 1:35:31]: Um, so that's [1:35:31, 1:35:36]: A a possible location. There's also a location on Walt Stevens Boulevard. [1:35:37, 1:35:40]: Um and we're and again, we're trying to be where [1:35:40, 1:35:47]: There are also small business owners. We don't necessarily want to be at the Walmart parking lot because that's a big box. We'd rather be [1:35:47, 1:35:49]: in an area that [1:35:49, 1:35:52]: А смал бизнес [1:35:52, 1:35:54]: that we would like to [1:35:54, 1:36:08]: um promote and also get people interested in supporting small businesses. Well yeah our plaza is full of small businesses. What what just would you clarify the pop-up like what what is the pop-up for um [1:36:09, 1:36:15]: As opposed to the kind of pop-up where you know merchants come out with their different wares. [1:36:15, 1:36:20]: Um we're not trying to do that because we don't have time to recruit or manage anything like that. [1:36:21, 1:36:21]: However [1:36:22, 1:36:25]: Um, if it's a plaza that's already pretty busy. [1:36:25, 1:36:31]: I think a sidewalk sale would be good. So for instance, if you guys wanted to while we were there that day. [1:36:32, 1:36:34]: Путайл від сам. [1:36:35, 1:36:39]: Cupcake samples or maybe one dollar cupcakes or something like that. Something that's [1:36:40, 1:36:41]: A little um [1:36:41, 1:36:42]: Okay. [1:36:42, 1:36:52]: smaller and quicker than what you normally do, which would encourage people who might not have come in before to come in again in the future. [1:36:52, 1:37:07]: And the same for some of the other um areas. I think I wanted to ask the city if we can allow pop-ups throughout the month of November, meaning that any store that's got a brick and mortar, if they wanted to put a table and a tent out front. [1:37:08, 1:37:09]: provided their space. [1:37:10, 1:37:18]: uh maybe a rack of clothes or something like that. Just something not to take up all the space but to encourage people to see their wares and to [1:37:19, 1:37:26]: Come along to the sidewalk there. Um, as for Kira and I, we will bring an umbrella and a table. [1:37:26, 1:37:31]: and some of the tote bags that we give out each year and the passports. [1:37:31, 1:37:38]: And remind people throughout you know, go ahead throughout the month of November to honor those passports and [1:37:38, 1:37:42]: Um, shop at the participating stores and anyone else. [1:37:42, 1:37:45]: that's in their uh plaza or community. [1:37:47, 1:37:52]: And that's the big thing. We've got to get the the passport together. We don't know who is [1:37:53, 1:37:59]: uh participating right now. So uh Greg has always done the passport for us. [1:37:59, 1:38:01]: So we need to get those businesses to him. [1:38:02, 1:38:08]: He he's gotten some commitments, um, and some folks have contacted me saying they would be interested. [1:38:08, 1:38:09]: Um [1:38:10, 1:38:25]: So of course we need more. We would like to get as many as we can, but one of the issues, and this might be a question for Vanessa, one of the issues has been that there are um businesses asking to participate that in my opinion. [1:38:25, 1:38:26]: Or not. [1:38:27, 1:38:34]: good retail. You know what I mean? They're more service oriented. And um like us you know in the [1:38:35, 1:38:35]: I'm sorry. [1:38:37, 1:38:52]: I thought I heard that. She said like us. She's service oriented. Yeah. Well, and that that's a question because in the past we've had other dance studios that um participated. And my question was, are they open on the Saturday after Thanksgiving? And is it relevant? [1:38:53, 1:38:55]: Two small business Saturday. [1:38:55, 1:38:56]: Um [1:38:56, 1:39:00]: as it was designed in the past. Now we're trying to do something a little bit different this time. [1:39:01, 1:39:05]: Um which might open up room for some of those service businesses. [1:39:05, 1:39:08]: But I wanted to get your perspective on whether or not [1:39:08, 1:39:09]: Um [1:39:09, 1:39:13]: We should even try to include certain types of businesses. [1:39:18, 1:39:23]: Well, I mean, I guess it ju I mean, most of us are are closed during that. [1:39:23, 1:39:27]: Um that that week, that um that Saturday. [1:39:27, 1:39:35]: Most of us. Um, I can't speak for I mean, I know the majority of the ones that I know are closed. [1:39:35, 1:39:36]: Um [1:39:39, 1:39:42]: It's just kinda hard because it just depends on what, you know. [1:39:42, 1:39:48]: w you know,'cause I know I've always wanted to participate, but I've never understood how I mean not understood but [1:39:48, 1:39:51]: I didn't know what we could do. [1:39:52, 1:39:53]: To [1:39:53, 1:39:57]: participate on that particular weekend because one is hard to get. [1:39:58, 1:40:00]: people to wanna come out. [1:40:00, 1:40:03]: For us, you know, my my people. [1:40:03, 1:40:03]: Um [1:40:04, 1:40:08]: to assist and help the you know, that partic that particular weekend. [1:40:08, 1:40:10]: Um, but [1:40:11, 1:40:23]: Um also, you know, just looking at you know what we could provide other than maybe classes or something like that and what people be interested in coming in to do. [1:40:24, 1:40:27]: pop up little classes like that. [1:40:28, 1:40:37]: So I I agree with that. Um my impression was that most holidaygoers are not interested in [1:40:37, 1:40:41]: Um participating in that type of activity on [1:40:41, 1:40:42]: Those weekends. [1:40:43, 1:40:47]: But um so for instance last year there was a fitness center. [1:40:47, 1:40:52]: And what I try to encourage them was um you know just [1:40:53, 1:40:56]: continue to promote yourselves because right [1:40:56, 1:40:58]: During the holidays, people purchase. [1:40:59, 1:41:00]: Memberships. [1:41:00, 1:41:00]: To [1:41:01, 1:41:08]: you know, lose pounds after the holidays or it's a gift for someone else they know would like to get started for a New Year's resolution. [1:41:08, 1:41:19]: Um, I think in that way it's good participation, but I think in other ways, you know, these businesses were just trying to get some exposure, but it's kind of [1:41:19, 1:41:23]: Taking up space from the retailers that we're trying to um [1:41:24, 1:41:30]: actually have people work with during that season. So that that's kind of a tough one. And we need to figure out [1:41:31, 1:41:32]: Whether or not or how. [1:41:33, 1:41:34]: We think this can work. [1:41:35, 1:41:37]: Greg's Greg, you trying to raise your hand? [1:41:38, 1:41:38]: Yeah. [1:41:39, 1:41:58]: Yeah, if if and since we're talking about doing a shop small season instead of a shop small Saturday, um, you know, maybe it's okay to drop the requirement that a location actually be open on shop small Saturday. And and I think that's all in how we sell it and possi possibly how we sell it during the pop-ups. [1:41:58, 1:42:03]: But you know, maybe we could even design the passport in a manner that that clearly [1:42:03, 1:42:23]: defines these businesses are actually open on shop small saturday these other businesses are participating in shop small season get your stamps from these during the month of November um but these will be available on shop small saturday as well so maybe it's up yeah maybe it's like a star or something on the ones that [1:42:23, 1:42:25]: That it will be open on Saturday. [1:42:26, 1:42:35]: Yeah. I like that idea. Some some little indicator saying this one is actually open on Shop Small Saturday. The rest of them are participating in Shop Small season. [1:42:36, 1:42:37]: Yeah. Yes. [1:42:38, 1:42:38]: Yes. [1:42:39, 1:42:41]: I like that. I like that Greg. [1:42:41, 1:42:51]: I like that. And um so Kira had Kira and I talked about that a little bit also. And we s you know, we normally give um a winning gif gift basket for the name that's drawn. [1:42:51, 1:42:53]: Um people who've [1:42:53, 1:42:55]: Shopped at at least four locations. [1:42:55, 1:43:06]: Um, and they have proof of that. So we can also do something that says if you've actually shopped on that Saturday and have proof of that, then you get into a second type of drawing. [1:43:06, 1:43:09]: Um or some kind of indicator for those people. [1:43:09, 1:43:18]: Who um actually went out on that Saturday. So I'm glad to get that um that kind of feedback. I think that's useful. [1:43:19, 1:43:30]: Well, um we'll continue the conversation. Um on Monday, we'll schedule a meeting for everyone, a lunchtime meeting. We actually have an economic development meeting. I didn't realize that starts. [1:43:30, 1:43:31]: At eleven thirty. [1:43:32, 1:43:38]: So we wouldn't be able to start. Can we start at twelve thirty as opposed to twelve? I know twelve is what I said, but [1:43:38, 1:43:40]: Is twelve thirty okay with you all? [1:43:41, 1:43:42]: On Monday. [1:43:45, 1:43:58]: That's fun. So fun. Okay. All right. So we'll shift it 30 minutes. So Lisa and I won't have to um leave the um economic development meeting. We'll go straight into small business Saturday on Monday. I'll send you all um [1:43:59, 1:44:02]: A Zoom meeting invitation in a few minutes. [1:44:04, 1:44:14]: All right, thank you. That gives us a little bit more direction for us to get started. Um, well, we've started, but to continue. And um Greg, did you think Greg was gonna say one more thing? [1:44:15, 1:44:27]: Yeah, Kira, if uh I'm sorry, Lisa, if if you could send me the uh names that have that you have talked with and agreed to participate so far, I'll try to have a mock-up of the passport ready for Monday. [1:44:28, 1:44:38]: Okay. Okay. Um so Greg, I am, as you can see, not at the office today and that list is at my desk. So I'll I'll send myself a note to send it to you first thing Monday. [1:44:39, 1:44:39]: Oh. [1:44:40, 1:44:40]: Oh. [1:44:42, 1:44:43]: Okay. Yeah, that'll work. [1:44:43, 1:44:44]: Okay, thank you. [1:44:46, 1:44:46]: All right. [1:44:48, 1:44:50]: All right, thank you. And we'll um [1:44:51, 1:44:54]: Be talking with you again on Monday. Thank you so much. [1:44:54, 1:45:01]: And thanks for your patience and hanging in with us a little longer. Yeah, thanks everybody. All right. Bye-bye. [1:45:11, 1:45:13]: Should we log out and log back in? [1:45:13, 1:45:15]: Wait a minute, I've got a [1:45:16, 1:45:18]: Lynn there's one of Linda's things still open. [1:45:19, 1:45:20]: I'm trying to um [1:45:21, 1:45:22]: And you're still recording. [1:45:22, 1:45:24]: Yeah, that's what I was trying to pause.

--- title: September 28 2021 Work Session Meeting date: 2021-09-28 source: 2021-09-28_September_28_2021_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:01]: Yeah. [0:22:16, 0:22:18]: Oh [0:25:45, 0:25:48]: Good evening, everybody. We are recording at this point. [0:25:51, 0:25:52]: Evening. [0:25:52, 0:25:53]: Good evening. [0:25:55, 0:25:56]: Hello. Hello? [0:26:06, 0:26:08]: And we're now on Facebook Live, ladies and gentlemen. [0:26:16, 0:26:21]: Hello everyone, Testin. Hello. Hello. Good evening. You we hear you loud and clear? [0:26:21, 0:26:23]: Thank you so much. [0:26:23, 0:26:26]: What a wonderful day it is to be in Stockbridge, y'all. [0:26:27, 0:26:27]: Oh [0:26:28, 0:26:31]: Saturday, oh my God, I'm still on cloud nine. [0:26:33, 0:26:36]: I'll stand it. [0:26:39, 0:26:42]: Okay, so [0:26:55, 0:27:05]: Mr. Knighton, good to see you, sir. Um we're almost at six o'clock and I do not see our attorneys, sir. Could you remind them, please, or reach out to them? [0:27:05, 0:27:07]: Yes, I had a um [0:27:09, 0:27:16]: Communication with them just a few minutes ago. So they should be coming in momentarily. [0:27:16, 0:27:17]: Okay. [0:27:31, 0:27:36]: Okay, Ms. Gantton. Does anyone know if Stanley Dumas should be a panelist in this meeting? [0:27:38, 0:27:39]: I'm sorry. [0:27:39, 0:27:42]: Stanley Dumas, Dumas, Dumas. [0:27:42, 0:27:47]: A panelist? Stanley Dum Dumas. I've s I've seen that name before. I'm just checking. [0:27:48, 0:27:51]: If he should be there, no, he's with the planning commission. [0:27:51, 0:27:53]: Yeah, not that I'm aware of. Okay, thanks. [0:28:07, 0:28:10]: And down [0:28:36, 0:28:38]: [1727.3, 1730.9]: So we're still missing our attorneys and uh Mr. Blount. [0:28:55, 0:28:57]: All right, let me make a call here. [0:28:58, 0:28:59]: I see now. [0:28:59, 0:29:00]: Are you doing Shana? [0:29:07, 0:29:13]: All right. I think the other Randy Knighton you see is a and one of the attorneys using my link. [0:29:14, 0:29:15]: Can you acknowledge? [0:29:18, 0:29:19]: Yes, that's me. [0:29:20, 0:29:22]: Okay, so that's uh Mr. Washington, there we go. [0:29:27, 0:29:35]: All right. And then there is a third Randy Knighton, which I believe is Jeremy Berry, our other attorney. [0:29:36, 0:29:36]: Okay. [0:29:37, 0:29:38]: Jeremy, can you [0:29:39, 0:29:40]: Acknowledge [0:29:41, 0:29:44]: That's me, but I don't know why there's no video. [0:29:47, 0:29:47]: Okay. [0:29:49, 0:29:52]: Yeah, I I have to use that'cause I don't get the links for some reason. [0:29:53, 0:29:54]: Mm, yeah. [0:29:55, 0:30:13]: We gotta fix that problem, I suppose. Need to fix that. Okay. Okay. On that note, I have 602. So I'd like to call this uh council work session Tuesday, September 28th, uh, to order. And on that note, uh Mr. Knighton, could you give the invocation, please, sir? [0:30:15, 0:30:21]: Uh yes, Mayor Ford, uh to uh the council and all of the listening and viewing audience, let us pray. [0:30:22, 0:30:28]: Lord in heaven, we are certainly thankful for the beauty of this day. We thank you for [0:30:28, 0:30:35]: The warm sunshine, which is a a constant reminder of your presence with us in your power and majesty. [0:30:35, 0:30:39]: We thank you, Lord, for the blessings that you have bestowed upon us. [0:30:40, 0:30:42]: And upon the city of Stock Bridge. [0:30:42, 0:30:44]: We thank you for the wonderful event. [0:30:45, 0:30:48]: Он сатаді івенні, взагалі. [0:30:49, 0:30:50]: Becoming reality. [0:30:52, 0:30:53]: We thank you for the [0:30:54, 0:30:58]: Elected body, the mayor and council who serve with diligence, we pray. [0:30:59, 0:31:01]: Your blessings upon this proceedings. [0:31:02, 0:31:05]: That you would endow them with wisdom and understanding to make. [0:31:06, 0:31:07]: Wise decisions. [0:31:08, 0:31:10]: On behalf of the city. [0:31:10, 0:31:15]: We ask your blessings upon all of citizens of Stockbridge and we ask your blessings upon [0:31:16, 0:31:16]: The stair. [0:31:17, 0:31:21]: We thank you for the opportunity to serve in our various capacities. [0:31:22, 0:31:24]: And we pray your rich blessings. [0:31:25, 0:31:26]: Upon us. [0:31:26, 0:31:30]: It is in your son's name, my savior, Jesus Christ. [0:31:30, 0:31:31]: Amen. [0:31:31, 0:31:33]: Amen. Thank you, sir. [0:31:33, 0:31:36]: Could you please stand for the uh legal allegiance? [0:31:39, 0:31:53]: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic of which is named one nation of God and indivisible with liberty and justice. Justice Raw. Okay. [0:31:55, 0:31:56]: Alrighty. [0:31:58, 0:32:00]: Madam Clerk, can I have a roll call, please? [0:32:00, 0:32:01]: Mayor Ford. Present. [0:32:02, 0:32:03]: Mayor Pro Tem Alexander. [0:32:04, 0:32:04]: President. [0:32:05, 0:32:06]: Councilwoman Barber. [0:32:06, 0:32:07]: I think. [0:32:08, 0:32:09]: Councilman Blount. [0:32:11, 0:32:11]: Present. [0:32:12, 0:32:13]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:32:14, 0:32:16]: Present. Councilman Thomas. [0:32:16, 0:32:18]: Present. Mayor Ford, you have a quorum. [0:32:19, 0:32:37]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. I appreciate it. Council, I need uh to amend a motion to amend the agenda, and that would be the new business item number three, then identify number three, to take that off the agenda and just more information and data that needs to be consulted and given in reference after that'll come to us at a later date. [0:32:38, 0:32:41]: So move. Thank you, Mr. Mer. Mr. Alexander, is there a second? [0:32:42, 0:32:47]: Ms. Barber's hand. Okay. [0:32:48, 0:32:50]: Aye. Aye. I appreciate it. Thank you. [0:32:51, 0:33:11]: And what we have next, of course, review the minutes for the following meetings, the actual uh actual council meeting, which was August 16th of um of course of this year, and then the council work session was the August 31st. Please review those. And hopefully if there if there are any changes, let the clerk know that we'll make those particular changes and then we'll vote on that. [0:33:11, 0:33:12]: At our next council meeting. [0:33:13, 0:33:15]: On that note, uh Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments? [0:33:19, 0:33:21]: There are no public comments, Mayor. [0:33:21, 0:33:27]: Okay, thank you. We'll move on now to new business, which will be item number four. [0:33:27, 0:33:47]: Uh council consideration to approve invitation to bid ITB 2021-0007, Maze Crossing Lift Station and Force Main Rehabilitation. The procurement division is requesting approval to award a fixed contract to the lowest responsive responsible bidder. [0:33:47, 0:33:55]: All South contractors incorporated in a total amount of$620,660 and 75 cents. [0:33:55, 0:33:59]: And this is presented by Ms. Miller and Mr. Aaron, please. [0:34:07, 0:34:08]: Ms. Miller and Mr. Aaron? [0:34:11, 0:34:27]: Sorry about that. Um good afternoon, Mayor and Council. That is correct. The procurement division is requesting approval to award a fixed contract to the lowest responsible, responsible bidder, all South Construct Constructors Incorporated. The work uh to be completed. [0:34:27, 0:34:40]: with this contract for the Maze Crossing Lift Station enforcement rehabilitation shall consist of the furnishing of all labor equipment and materials necessary to re rehabilitate the Maze Crossing Lift Station. [0:34:41, 0:34:49]: With that being said, the procurement was sent out according to our ordinance. We received several responses. [0:34:51, 0:34:58]: four I'm sorry, four responses in which um the notice of award was posted to the city's website as well as the state of Georgia's website. [0:35:01, 0:35:03]: Thank you. Council, any questions for Miss Miller? [0:35:04, 0:35:04]: At all. [0:35:09, 0:35:11]: See none. Um [0:35:12, 0:35:15]: Mr. Aaron, did you have anything to add before we go to a vote? [0:35:15, 0:35:18]: Just that this will be paid for using ARPA funds. [0:35:19, 0:35:20]: Fantastic. [0:35:20, 0:35:21]: There you go. [0:35:21, 0:35:21]: Sure. [0:35:22, 0:35:30]: Mayor Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. Yeah, real quick. Maze Crossing, that is the um shopping center complex with the what, the big lots? [0:35:31, 0:35:34]: And oh is it is that the is that the complex we're talking about? [0:35:36, 0:35:38]: Or is it the one on the other side of the screen? [0:35:38, 0:35:40]: It's the one on the other side of the street. [0:35:40, 0:35:45]: I'll let Mr. Holzinger, he's our sewer superintendent, he's on the line as well. [0:35:45, 0:35:46]: All right, Ms. Oserin, please go ahead. [0:35:47, 0:35:52]: Hey, thank you, Council. It's the it serves uh two houses on [0:35:53, 0:35:54]: But like it's [0:35:54, 0:35:57]: Daniel Drive, the Krispy Kreme, the motel. [0:35:58, 0:36:01]: Uh, Kentucky Fried Chicken and that shopping center that uh [0:36:02, 0:36:03]: Mr. Alexander was talking about. [0:36:05, 0:36:05]: Uh [0:36:06, 0:36:11]: Okay, so we're all on that side of the road that it serves. It doesn't serve the other side at all. [0:36:12, 0:36:16]: Okay, so in the this anticipates should we have some additional [0:36:17, 0:36:20]: uh commercial growth in the area that this [0:36:20, 0:36:24]: New uh upgrade will actually be able to handle that with some [0:36:24, 0:36:25]: Um [0:36:25, 0:36:29]: added capacity some added capacity for future commercial growth. [0:36:30, 0:36:31]: Yes, sir. It should handle it just fine. [0:36:32, 0:36:36]: Okay. Could you give us kind of like is there like a term or how many? [0:36:36, 0:36:38]: Of a such certain increase of [0:36:39, 0:36:40]: How much it can handle or [0:36:41, 0:36:42]: In terms of your department? [0:36:42, 0:36:48]: It should probably the as far as what it handles now or what the future holds. Well both. [0:36:49, 0:36:51]: Well, as far as future, there's really no work. [0:36:52, 0:36:55]: Uh it can handle more. I would say probably [0:36:56, 0:37:00]: Uh forty, fifty percent more than what it currently handles. [0:37:01, 0:37:06]: But as far as growth right there, there's really no spot for growth. [0:37:06, 0:37:08]: Kind of run out of city property. [0:37:09, 0:37:15]: You always go up. You can always go up. So all right. Thank you. [0:37:17, 0:37:18]: Any other questions, Council? [0:37:20, 0:37:23]: And if not any emotion to accept this proposal. [0:37:25, 0:37:33]: So moved. Uh Miss Barber had had hand hand up first. Okay. And Miss Gantt seconds that and all in favor, please indicate. [0:37:34, 0:37:35]: Aye. [0:37:35, 0:37:37]: Okay, so you now see. Thank you very much. [0:37:38, 0:37:44]: Council consideration to award request for proposal RFP number 2021-0004. [0:37:47, 0:37:52]: The Public Works Department is requesting council approval for the award of request for proposal RFP. [0:37:53, 0:38:13]: Okay, landscape maintenance services for city of Stockbridge to Yellowstone Landscape Southeast LLC for general ground for general ground keeping, horticulture, maintenance, irrigation, cleanup of landscape areas as designated in each area, uh each service area, and a list of locations when necessary repairs. [0:38:13, 0:38:24]: to the vandalism irrigation systems and replacement of plant materials for an estimated annual amount of$250,000. Once again, it's presented by Ms. Miller and Mr. Aaron, please. [0:38:25, 0:38:45]: Uh that is correct. Uh good afternoon once again, Mayor and Council. The Public Works and Procurement Division is requesting approval of RFP 2021. The request for proposal landscape maintenance services was solicited in accordance with council directives and the city ordinance. The solicitation requests again is for grounds. [0:38:44, 0:38:46]: keeping or the culture. [0:38:46, 0:38:51]: maintenance. On May 13th, the solicitation was sent out. [0:38:51, 0:39:08]: We received two responses, one from High Grove Partners LLC and Yellowstone Landscape. The evaluation committee did meet on August 5th. We then had um two negotiation meetings with the vendor. A copy of the actual drafted contract is attached. [0:39:08, 0:39:18]: And in addition to that, we also um posted the bid on the city's website, as well as data Georgian, which was sent out to 796 vendors. [0:39:20, 0:39:26]: Okay, council, any questions for Ms. Miller or Mr. Aaron? [0:39:27, 0:39:28]: Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [0:39:30, 0:39:36]: Okay, my question is for Mr. Berry. Um Mr. Berry, I do see [0:39:36, 0:39:40]: um looks like contract language from [0:39:40, 0:39:41]: Yellowstone [0:39:41, 0:39:44]: But I don't see a draft contract. [0:39:45, 0:39:46]: Um with our [0:39:47, 0:39:49]: standard language. [0:39:51, 0:39:52]: When will that come before the council? [0:39:57, 0:40:08]: Uh we can review that and provide any other language that that's necessary or needed. Sometimes we do sign other contracts. The city doesn't always use contracts that it's signed. [0:40:09, 0:40:12]: That sorry, that it's it's uh prepared. [0:40:14, 0:40:14]: Okay. [0:40:15, 0:40:20]: That's one of the concerns that I had that we need to discuss a little further. [0:40:20, 0:40:24]: Um, I do have one other follow-up question with Mr. Aaron. [0:40:24, 0:40:26]: Can you um explain? [0:40:26, 0:40:30]: what this covers or what areas this covers. [0:40:31, 0:40:50]: Yes, uh Councilwoman Barber. This covers City Hall, the Municipal Court, the Amphitheater, the New Public Works Building, Municipal Park, the Merrill Manders Conference Center, Ted Strickland Conference Center, the Downtown Streetscape, the East Atlanta Road Streetscape, the historic markers at [0:40:50, 0:40:58]: Uh Florida Chapel and the Greenfront Cafe, the banner station at Walmart and at Rock Quarry North Henry Boulevard. [0:40:59, 0:41:04]: And I think that's about all of the locations that are included in this agreement. [0:41:05, 0:41:07]: Okay. So the um [0:41:08, 0:41:11]: Right away maintenance, are we still gonna use staff? [0:41:11, 0:41:15]: For that or will it be covered with this contract? [0:41:15, 0:41:18]: Yes, ma'am, we've got staff doing right away maintenance. [0:41:18, 0:41:27]: Okay, one last question. So the um areas um near uh highway one thirty-eight, um near the overpass. [0:41:28, 0:41:29]: Um [0:41:29, 0:41:31]: I guess that is I seventy five. [0:41:32, 0:41:35]: I think we're paying a separate contractor for that. [0:41:35, 0:41:36]: Will this cover it? [0:41:37, 0:41:43]: No ma'am, these are for the areas that were previously under the formal agreement with High Grove. [0:41:45, 0:41:53]: This does not include right-of-way. This is just those locations where we had a previous vendor performing landscaping services for the city. [0:41:53, 0:42:02]: So how many landscaping companies would be performing landscaping services for the city if we approve this today? [0:42:02, 0:42:12]: You've got, well I would say two, because you got one doing the right-of-way mowing that city authorized, and you've got one doing the landscaping and beautification, which would be Yellowstone. [0:42:13, 0:42:14]: Okay, so that would be two. [0:42:15, 0:42:17]: Yes, ma'am. Okay, thank you. [0:42:18, 0:42:20]: Yes, sir. Pro Tem, go ahead, please. [0:42:20, 0:42:32]: Uh I just wanted to inquire as we had some previous uh information. Mr. Knighton, while we're talking about this subject, uh there was some beautification efforts for um [0:42:33, 0:42:44]: Campground and Hudson Bridge. Is that information bid closed now? So uh as well? Or can you give us an update on that? What what before I ask my question? [0:42:46, 0:42:56]: I can I can speak to that. We did put that out under a separate solicitation as requested by Councilwoman Barber. We received no bids for that solicitation. [0:42:59, 0:43:00]: And what are we gonna do about it? [0:43:05, 0:43:11]: Well, if uh the city decides to go with Yellowstone, then we'll approach them about [0:43:11, 0:43:13]: doing that project. [0:43:13, 0:43:16]: Because we have cost items for um [0:43:16, 0:43:21]: certain projects so we can inquire as to what it would cost to [0:43:21, 0:43:24]: add that add those projects. [0:43:24, 0:43:44]: We did not get any bids at all. Zero. What was the, I mean, who did it go out to if we only got we got zero bids? It went out to the uh on the state registry like we normally advertise, but for a lot of people, one of the benders I heard back from is like there is no maintenance and up. [0:43:44, 0:43:48]: keep it's just a one time project and they didn't feel it was worth their while to [0:43:49, 0:43:50]: To be it on the project. [0:43:51, 0:43:53]: So Muslim nine, what's the next step? [0:43:56, 0:43:59]: I think the next step would be as Mr. Aaron mentioned. [0:43:59, 0:44:02]: Uh, if this contractor is approved by the council. [0:44:02, 0:44:07]: And we look at perhaps uh an addendum to add those uh particular roadways. [0:44:08, 0:44:13]: Okay, all right. That's out that sounds good. Okay, so pretty much what we're doing now is [0:44:13, 0:44:20]: uh the downtown area proper, which is City Hall, the amphitheater. This includes the park too, the amphitheater park. [0:44:22, 0:44:27]: Uh Mr. Mangum with Yellowstone is on the line. That includes the entire amphitheater footprint. [0:44:28, 0:44:32]: Okay, so that includes all of that. Okay. And then um [0:44:32, 0:44:33]: In terms of [0:44:33, 0:44:36]: Could could Mr. M could could Mr. Mangum [0:44:37, 0:44:39]: He's here on the call, correct? He's on the call. [0:44:39, 0:44:43]: Yeah. Sorry, talk about the specific services in terms of [0:44:43, 0:44:46]: The edging, the weed prevention. [0:44:46, 0:44:50]: And all of that. What's the program include? Talk talk to us on the company's behalf. [0:44:51, 0:44:54]: Yes, sir. Thank you so much for this opportunity. Um [0:44:55, 0:44:57]: It does include weekly maintenance. [0:44:57, 0:45:01]: During the growing season, it's bi weekly maintenance in the uh off season. [0:45:02, 0:45:04]: Um it includes mowing weekly. [0:45:05, 0:45:08]: Includes uh two applications of pine straw. [0:45:09, 0:45:10]: Two rotations of flowers. [0:45:11, 0:45:12]: Aeration. [0:45:13, 0:45:14]: Uh pruning. [0:45:15, 0:45:15]: Um [0:45:16, 0:45:17]: Edging [0:45:18, 0:45:18]: Oh weekly? [0:45:19, 0:45:20]: And uh [0:45:20, 0:45:22]: Turf weed control as well. [0:45:23, 0:45:43]: Okay, I thought we had agreed, Mr. Aaron, that we were gonna do quarterly uh freshening up for the pine straw and the mulch in the city because six months was way too long and it w the area started to deteriorate uh after a few months. So is there a correction that we could make where we could do [0:45:43, 0:45:50]: uh uh update on the mulch and everything on a quarterly basis. So it's always looking fresh. And does this include [0:45:50, 0:45:53]: The plantings in front of Stockbridge Elementary as well. [0:45:56, 0:46:03]: He had that conversation with Mr. Mangum and we've got the unit price and cost if we go from [0:46:03, 0:46:04]: Uh [0:46:04, 0:46:06]: semi annually to quarterly. [0:46:07, 0:46:10]: And it will be based on appearance if he thinks [0:46:10, 0:46:23]: that there are additional applications needed, then they would do that, but we were relying on their expertise that two might be sufficient. And if it's not sufficient, then we have the cost for adding those additional [0:46:24, 0:46:33]: Well, we know two's not gonna be sufficient because that's what we've been doing. But in the end, does it include the plantings in front of Stockbridge Elementary? That n it that's [0:46:33, 0:46:37]: Very important. They look very nice now because we freshened them up with pine straw. [0:46:38, 0:46:41]: Uh but is that included in this? Cause it certainly needs to be. [0:46:43, 0:46:51]: I'd have to look back because it was some things that staff retained service in, and I think that might be one of them, but I'll look back in the agreement. [0:46:52, 0:46:54]: It's it's it's not uh [0:46:54, 0:46:55]: One of the locations. [0:46:56, 0:46:58]: The front of the elementary school. [0:46:58, 0:46:59]: Right. [0:46:59, 0:47:05]: It's not well well there's a not the elementary school itself, but there's some planting boxes along the right-of-way. [0:47:05, 0:47:08]: In front of Stockbridge Elementary that certainly [0:47:08, 0:47:15]: You know, that that controls the appearance and it belongs to the city. So could we get that added in to make sure? [0:47:15, 0:47:18]: That that is taken care of as well. [0:47:18, 0:47:19]: Also [0:47:20, 0:47:22]: You referred to where we planted the crate myrtles? [0:47:22, 0:47:23]: Right. [0:47:23, 0:47:43]: The staff staff is maintaining those areas. Let me tell you this. I'm sorry. It's just not working. Okay, we got it fresh and done for the last couple of days. It looked really good for the amphitheater to be done, but I'm asking that possibly be considered to add to this contract because we don't want that side to be looking out of [0:47:43, 0:48:02]: place when City Hall and the amphitheater and the rest of the downtown area is squared up. I uh the picture that I see speaking for myself is when I drive to downtown McDonough, it's on point every day. Not every other day, it's on point every day. And that's kind of where I want us to get to. [0:48:02, 0:48:03]: Афоналі [0:48:04, 0:48:07]: Uh, we haven't got there as a unit ourselves, but I want to see [0:48:07, 0:48:12]: Whether this contractor might be able to do that because we've been able to execute at a high level. [0:48:12, 0:48:14]: All other areas of the city so [0:48:15, 0:48:17]: Yeah, Mr. Knighton, is it possible to [0:48:17, 0:48:24]: Is is it possible? Do we have the numbers to add that in since they do know where it is? Or I don't know, somebody answered that question for me. [0:48:25, 0:48:32]: Yeah, I think it can be added in. I don't know if it's been actually scoped, but I think uh I mean I don't anticipate the cost to be [0:48:33, 0:48:38]: You know, relatively great. Um, but I mean certainly that could be added in. We've got unit pricing. [0:48:39, 0:48:43]: for certain areas. And so we should have a pretty good estimate of what that is and [0:48:44, 0:48:50]: I suppose if that uh is a desire of the council that could be added as part of this, their regular maintenance. [0:48:50, 0:48:56]: Right. I certainly would like to ask that of the colleagues since I cannot make that decision, but we've all seen [0:48:56, 0:49:03]: how that looks on a regular basis. So I would like I would suggest that that be added. Those are my comments. Thank you. [0:49:04, 0:49:05]: Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please, sir. [0:49:06, 0:49:11]: Well, uh uh thank you, Mayor Pro Temp. I I don't have a problem with that being added. [0:49:12, 0:49:14]: Версус те кос [0:49:15, 0:49:17]: Uh, for the addition of scope, but [0:49:17, 0:49:20]: But m I I tell you what my problem is here is that [0:49:21, 0:49:22]: If [0:49:22, 0:49:25]: public works or general maintenance. [0:49:25, 0:49:29]: Uh, if this is something that they are responsible for. [0:49:30, 0:49:34]: Uh I I just think they need to be held accountable without incurring [0:49:34, 0:49:36]: the uh the other expense. I don't wanna [0:49:36, 0:49:43]: I don't wanna, you know, shook that simply because as you say, Mayor Pro Tem, it it's not working. [0:49:43, 0:49:44]: Um [0:49:44, 0:49:45]: It must work. [0:49:46, 0:49:47]: Um [0:49:47, 0:49:52]: If this is something uh if this is a responsibility of public works. [0:49:52, 0:49:53]: It must work. [0:49:54, 0:49:55]: So let's not let's not [0:49:56, 0:50:00]: Um, you know, bypass responsibility and accountability. [0:50:01, 0:50:04]: Uh, because as we see it, it is not working. [0:50:04, 0:50:09]: I keep emphasizing uh it must work. So uh Mr. Aaron, uh speak to that. [0:50:10, 0:50:12]: Speak to uh Mayor Pro Tem's concern. [0:50:12, 0:50:15]: And and and can we get the job done? [0:50:15, 0:50:19]: On those on on those bases, as the Mayor Pro Tem is indicating. [0:50:20, 0:50:23]: Those areas are done on a monthly basis. That [0:50:23, 0:50:26]: The uh historic markers and the banners. [0:50:26, 0:50:27]: Pole that [0:50:28, 0:50:29]: Walmart and North Henry. [0:50:30, 0:50:40]: And wall and uh rock core in North Henry staff was doing those on a monthly basis. Those are refreshed. I see it myself. I go by on a regular basis and those it's [0:50:41, 0:50:45]: A group of four guys that are assigned to those locations. [0:50:45, 0:50:49]: So let me ask me for Tim, is he indicating that? [0:50:49, 0:50:53]: And I know we have, you know, grow growing season and and non growing season. [0:50:53, 0:50:56]: But Mayor Pro Tem, are you sort of indicating that? [0:50:56, 0:51:00]: The frequency of the maintenance need to be uh [0:51:00, 0:51:03]: A little a little bit a little bit shorter than one month. [0:51:03, 0:51:05]: Me approaching. [0:51:05, 0:51:22]: If you're asking that question of me, just like we cut the grounds on City Hall every week, that planting in front of Stockbridge Elementary needs to be included that on a weekly basis during growing season and then every two weeks, uh in non-growing season and then [0:51:22, 0:51:42]: quar uh quarterly for the uh the mulch to be refreshed because as I said in all of us council members we see it what we're doing is not working monthly is not working so no it needs to be updated so that's well at that location there is pine straw there's just pine straw and surrounding those [0:51:42, 0:51:45]: uh prertles and those shrubs that were planted. [0:51:46, 0:51:55]: So uh Ms. Barb, if I can just follow up real quick and then I I'll jump off. So and hopefully um Councilwoman Barr, you may speak to the frequency as well. [0:51:55, 0:52:14]: So Mayor Pro Tem, and uh and I guess I'm putting this out to all of the council members, uh, is this something that we may need to and especially during the growing season? I I have to sort of look at that during the non-growing season. But now if if we are sort of suggesting and recommending that at least during the growing season, [0:52:15, 0:52:19]: That that frequency is maybe cut to uh every two weeks because again. [0:52:19, 0:52:25]: Um that appearance in downtown right across from uh city hall. [0:52:26, 0:52:27]: Uh it must. [0:52:28, 0:52:30]: It must be maintaining upkept. [0:52:31, 0:52:36]: So uh Mayor, thank you and I'm I'm going to jump off. Oh no problem. Uh Councilwoman Barber, go ahead, please. [0:52:37, 0:52:41]: I was just going to suggest um that we go ahead and approve. [0:52:42, 0:52:43]: This contract award. [0:52:44, 0:52:45]: But add [0:52:45, 0:52:46]: One. [0:52:48, 0:52:52]: Add a motion for an addendum so that staff can go back. [0:52:53, 0:52:53]: Um [0:52:54, 0:52:57]: and price whatever the new scope will be. [0:52:57, 0:52:59]: Uh whether we do it weekly. [0:53:00, 0:53:01]: Bi weekly. [0:53:03, 0:53:05]: Is that okay for Mayor Pro Tem? [0:53:06, 0:53:09]: And we can approve this and then just add in the motion. [0:53:10, 0:53:11]: for staff to bring back. [0:53:12, 0:53:14]: um an addendum or an amendment. [0:53:15, 0:53:16]: to this contract. [0:53:16, 0:53:18]: To add those areas. [0:53:19, 0:53:26]: If that question is for me, then uh if they could bring it back at the next meeting, I would be okay with it. I just don't want it lingering out there. [0:53:26, 0:53:29]: Yeah. Can I can I ask a question real quick about this area? [0:53:30, 0:53:31]: Yes, go ahead, sir. [0:53:31, 0:53:39]: Um, is it the area across the street from City Hall that's below the wall? Like it's on the sidewalk. Yes. [0:53:39, 0:53:41]: Yeah, that that that was part of our deal. [0:53:42, 0:53:43]: That was part of our deal. [0:53:43, 0:53:45]: The area above the wall. [0:53:45, 0:53:46]: Um [0:53:46, 0:53:47]: Goes. [0:53:47, 0:53:49]: It was under our understanding that goes with the school. [0:53:50, 0:53:55]: But everything that's below the wall, along the sidewalk, that that's gonna be maintained by us weekly. [0:53:55, 0:53:58]: Okay, that's great. That's that's that's it then we're good. [0:53:58, 0:53:59]: Okay. [0:53:59, 0:53:59]: Right. [0:54:00, 0:54:02]: Stand back. Um Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. [0:54:03, 0:54:09]: I don't know. Do we need to hold it up until or whatever? Because I'm just trying to get in here. [0:54:10, 0:54:18]: Thank you, sir. Um my question is that when we talk about beautification at the um city hall. [0:54:18, 0:54:23]: There's times we go by there's nothing but pine straw. When I go to other cities, there's [0:54:23, 0:54:30]: There's plants, they're their winter plants, fall plants, their summer uh beautification. [0:54:30, 0:54:45]: Uh uh is that uh should we expect that? And I'm gonna want to follow up questions, should we expect some type of beautification other than pine straw and and and pruning those trees back? Uh because I think the foliage is of those trees is is really uh [0:54:45, 0:54:51]: Even going from City Hall over to the courts is just really those crate murders are out of control. [0:54:52, 0:54:55]: Um, what I've seen that they're not prone back. [0:54:55, 0:54:57]: Um throughout this throughout my [0:54:57, 0:55:00]: community in my uh subdivision. [0:55:00, 0:55:03]: One of the things about crepe murders, if you don't prune them back, [0:55:04, 0:55:24]: They're going to grow bigger, out of control and larger uh in the off season. Craig Murders are the type of trees that grow right back, and they grow back as beautiful as they were as they were uh the previous year. So that's the first question. Uh and I guess the second question would be, m uh, Mrs. Dace, because I know a lot of times when we get into the [0:55:24, 0:55:25]: [3325.9, 3328.0]: We talk about how pressure washing. [0:55:28, 0:55:40]: Um, and I don't know if this is involved in it. Pressure washing is uh in winter months or gets kind of interesting. So are we gonna have pressure washing prior to the cold coming in? [0:55:40, 0:55:47]: And and whatever areas we have for beautification. And and I know I got three questions. I'm trying to jump in because I don't know when I get back in. [0:55:47, 0:55:49]: And the last one is this including [0:55:50, 0:55:50]: Um [0:55:51, 0:55:56]: Also, is it including when we the completion of Lee Street and the beautification over on Lee Street? [0:55:58, 0:56:18]: Councilman Blount, this does not include Lee Street because we don't know what the final landscaping plan or design is for that area, but once it's completed, then we can add it in. As far as pressure washing, we just recently pressure washed City Hall and the roof at City Hall as well. We did some other pressure washing around. [0:56:18, 0:56:27]: On City Hall. So pressure wash. And I don't know which areas you were referring to as far as pressure washing at City Hall or any other location. [0:56:27, 0:56:33]: Well, when we when I said pressure wash from Ms. Daisy, I'm saying that if you just did it, thank you. [0:56:33, 0:56:49]: But there's times when there uh I don't know how often you do you guys pressure wash, but there's times where the uh the oxidation and stuff that happens on that concrete that looks pretty, you know, it's it's city hall, you know, with this with this big F emphasis behind it that that's [0:56:50, 0:56:54]: That w that we've all uh built that is amphitheater. We want to make City Hall. [0:56:54, 0:57:04]: uh kind of like the uh focal point, ground zero, what we want to see around the city. And so uh I I think that's the concern of this whole council that we're on top of that. [0:57:04, 0:57:10]: Uh and I thank you with the uh with the answer when it came to uh Lee Street. [0:57:10, 0:57:12]: But but also I'm just [0:57:12, 0:57:16]: What what is different that that we're gonna be doing when it comes to [0:57:17, 0:57:22]: the plannings and things around City Hall. I'm just trying to figure out we we get we get ready to award a contract and vote on it. [0:57:23, 0:57:32]: Uh potentially. So I'm just trying to figure out what exactly are we going to be getting either from public works or from this new contract when it comes to beautification around City Hall. [0:57:35, 0:57:39]: I'll let Mr. Mangle speak to that as he's. Yes, sir. Thanks so much. [0:57:40, 0:57:44]: This this picture right here behind me, this is actually our seasonal flowers. [0:57:45, 0:57:48]: Uh, in some of our pots that we've got also our communities. [0:57:49, 0:57:52]: Um, I know in all of your seasonal flower beds. [0:57:52, 0:57:53]: We're gonna be changing them. [0:57:54, 0:57:56]: Two flowers like this. [0:57:57, 0:58:00]: Um, we're gonna do your fall and winter flowers, which is coming up. [0:58:01, 0:58:01]: Uh [0:58:01, 0:58:03]: Within the next two to three weeks. [0:58:04, 0:58:07]: So all the empty flower beds that's out there and you you've got quite a few [0:58:08, 0:58:10]: Uh seasonal flower beds that are empty. [0:58:10, 0:58:12]: So all those are gonna get filled uh filled up. [0:58:13, 0:58:13]: Well, the fall. [0:58:14, 0:58:18]: And then we're gonna rotate'em and put brand new flowers in'em come next spring too. [0:58:19, 0:58:21]: Um and then we did a property wall. [0:58:22, 0:58:23]: About a week and a half ago. [0:58:24, 0:58:26]: And we saw a lot of the roses. [0:58:26, 0:58:29]: And certain uh plants that are dying out. [0:58:30, 0:58:33]: So we've got a good plan to come back in and replace them with some more. [0:58:33, 0:58:34]: Barber. [0:58:34, 0:58:35]: Colorful. [0:58:35, 0:58:38]: uh flower and shrubbery to replace them as well. [0:58:39, 0:58:43]: And so we'll be we'll be uh proposing that to you all as well. [0:58:44, 0:58:56]: Thank you. Just to follow up, Mayor, if you if you will. Go ahead, sir. Uh I I because I've seen your company, I've seen this company on the northern end of towns and in several places. I'm assuming it's a really big company, because I've seen them. [0:58:57, 0:59:02]: quite a few places and and I've seen the work that you all are doing. We just want to make sure that we get that down here. [0:59:02, 0:59:05]: On the south side of the stock bridge and we want to [0:59:05, 0:59:13]: You know, we're not trying to mimic anybody, but we just want to look we just want to look as best as we can look. You know, we wanna you know absolutely. [0:59:13, 0:59:15]: Actually I'm a [0:59:15, 0:59:17]: Southside Gow myself. [0:59:17, 0:59:21]: I was born and raised in Griffin. I live in in McDonough now, so [0:59:22, 0:59:24]: I come right by Stockbridge. [0:59:25, 0:59:25]: Twice a day. [0:59:26, 0:59:28]: And I see it and and [0:59:29, 0:59:30]: A lot of the people that [0:59:30, 0:59:32]: That I associate with. [0:59:32, 0:59:34]: Live in that area as well and so. [0:59:35, 0:59:39]: I've got uh I've got a lot of emphasis on Yale City. [0:59:40, 0:59:41]: As well. [0:59:41, 0:59:49]: Fantastic. Mr. Mr. Megan, but when I talked about the trees though, we I guess you guys looked at everywhere. [0:59:49, 0:59:54]: And you see that as a serio we have a serious issue with trees need to be really pruned back. [0:59:54, 1:00:02]: Yeah, especially the ones on the front corner of the city hall. Yes. [1:00:03, 1:00:07]: We saw that the other day. We we're walking in the rain, so it was wet, all the limbs were [1:00:07, 1:00:10]: were wet, heavy and hanging over and stuff. So yeah, we [1:00:11, 1:00:15]: We definitely saw that. Our contract uh states that we will do tree pruning. [1:00:15, 1:00:17]: Um up to a height of [1:00:17, 1:00:19]: I believe it's ten feet. I'll check on that. [1:00:20, 1:00:21]: Um and we take [1:00:21, 1:00:23]: We take crepe myrtles. [1:00:23, 1:00:24]: Oh [1:00:24, 1:00:26]: On an individual basis. [1:00:26, 1:00:32]: We'll look at crate. We typically don't prune a lot over the the top of the canopy of a crate myrtle. [1:00:33, 1:00:38]: But we'll take it on an individual basis and and and decide how we want to prune each one. [1:00:38, 1:00:44]: Now the trees at the corner of City Hall, they aren't they aren't creating myrtles. Uh those are elm trees. [1:00:45, 1:00:47]: And those are the ones where the the limbs are hanging down, but [1:00:47, 1:00:53]: We we've seen a lot of lot of tree work that needs to be done and we're gonna we're gonna jump on it right out the gate. [1:00:54, 1:00:54]: Thank you, Mayor. [1:00:55, 1:00:58]: You're welcome, sir. Uh Councilman Tom uh uh Thomas, go ahead, please. [1:00:59, 1:01:03]: Thank you, Mayor. Um lastly, Mr. Mingum, I I don't want to miss [1:01:03, 1:01:11]: Uh the statement that you made going back to um Stockbridge Elementary School, uh the frequency, if I'm not mistaken. [1:01:12, 1:01:14]: You said that you will be analyzing [1:01:15, 1:01:19]: Uh that scope of work on a weekly basis. [1:01:19, 1:01:22]: Yes, sir. The whole contract for every [1:01:22, 1:01:23]: Area [1:01:24, 1:01:27]: Oh, that encompasses the contract is weekly. [1:01:28, 1:01:28]: April [1:01:29, 1:01:30]: Through October. [1:01:31, 1:01:35]: And bi weekly November through March. So your off your off season. [1:01:36, 1:01:40]: is uh bi weekly and and the growing seasons weekly. Yes, sir. [1:01:41, 1:01:41]: Okay. [1:01:42, 1:01:45]: I I just want to emphasize that that fact because [1:01:45, 1:01:45]: Uh [1:01:46, 1:01:47]: That look [1:01:48, 1:01:49]: They're um [1:01:50, 1:01:51]: All around City Hall. [1:01:52, 1:02:03]: pretty much all the way down to the North Indian precinct. And and I'm not suggesting your scope to this another scope, but I'm just saying uh when people come over that bridge. [1:02:03, 1:02:07]: Um, you know, that is, you know, the sight that they see. [1:02:07, 1:02:15]: And we just want to make sure all of that is um, you know, the campus of City Hall, that it is nice. Yes, sir. Absolutely. [1:02:17, 1:02:25]: All right, Mary Po Tim, we'll make this the last pull round. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is. I just want to make the statement. Mr. Mangum says he lives in McDonald's, so he drives right by the square. [1:02:26, 1:02:27]: On a regular basis. [1:02:27, 1:02:29]: And uh if it's [1:02:29, 1:02:32]: If that's the minimum requirement here, okay. [1:02:32, 1:02:37]: So if you drive by there and you can get the minimum requirement there and above. [1:02:37, 1:02:39]: That's kind of what we're looking at. Certainly. [1:02:39, 1:02:44]: Uh what Mr. Blount had mentioned about the flowers and the beautification, I certainly could [1:02:44, 1:02:52]: uh support that uh as well. So I will go ahead and make a motion to approve this contract so we can move this forward. [1:02:52, 1:02:53]: Yeah, second. [1:02:54, 1:02:58]: Is there a second? Miss Gantt second dad. Okay, any further discussion? [1:02:59, 1:03:05]: And if not all mayor, with is that is that with an addendum to come back with a pricing on uh the other? [1:03:05, 1:03:09]: Is that gonna be added that we we would have them to look at? [1:03:09, 1:03:21]: uh the pricing on other uh objects that or is this just for this right here it's just for this motion it the there's no other addendum that he mentioned in in this particular motion at all okay all right so all in favor of motion please indicate [1:03:23, 1:03:25]: Okay, nasty season. Thank you very much. [1:03:26, 1:03:30]: All right. No, that was a lot of unanimous. [1:03:30, 1:03:34]: That was not unanimous. Oh you oh I'm sorry, you vote you vote against the motion? [1:03:35, 1:03:39]: I'm abstaining. You're abstaining. Okay. I'm sorry, four zero one. [1:03:40, 1:03:41]: For the Riker. [1:03:42, 1:03:45]: There's information uh we've discussed here. [1:03:45, 1:03:46]: But [1:03:46, 1:03:49]: None of that information was provided to us in writing. [1:03:49, 1:03:54]: We don't have a contract in front of us for us to see the standard language. [1:03:54, 1:03:57]: That spelled out everything, Mr. Mangum. [1:03:58, 1:04:01]: has agreed to. So I'm just abstaining for that reason. [1:04:01, 1:04:04]: All right, four zero one. Thank you for the clarification. [1:04:04, 1:04:06]: Uh Council Cruise. [1:04:07, 1:04:07]: I'm sorry. [1:04:09, 1:04:11]: Oh I'm sorry, Mayor. I meant to mute. [1:04:11, 1:04:31]: Okay. All right. So uh Mr. Magnum, you can thank you, sir. You can stay as long as you like. Appreciate it. And I look forward to uh wonderful beautification that your company's gonna do for the city stop bridge. Thank you. Absolutely. Thank you. Thank you, everyone. We're gonna get started next week on it. Look forward to it. Good deal. All right. Take care. All right. Council consideration to increase purchase order number three eight one five zero. [1:04:31, 1:04:51]: For uh uh what's this, Cedar Chem, Cedar Chem from$30,000 to$35,000 for the purchase of uh Cyprus Phosphorus, Phosphorus CC2050. This will allow the staff to increase the purchase order by$5,000. The funding source is the from the sewer department. [1:04:51, 1:04:56]: It uh budgeted funds presented by Mr. Aaron and uh Brad. [1:04:56, 1:04:57]: Gentlemen, please. [1:04:58, 1:05:13]: Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. A couple of years ago, the EPD required the city to start monitoring for phosphorus. And so we're using a chemical to remove phosphorus from our effluent before it's discharged into the stream. So now it has become a part of our permit. [1:05:13, 1:05:33]: And with the pandemic and more people are being at home, we're using more uh PAC, which is polyaluminum chloride, to remove the phosphorus. And so we're asking that we be allowed to increase the purchase order so we can buy additional chemicals. And we were informed by procurement that. [1:05:33, 1:05:44]: Mr. Knighton's signing authority, the city manager signing authority is only twenty-five thousand dollars. So that's why we're coming before mayor and council because we need to increase the purchase order to buy additional. [1:05:44, 1:05:46]: uh poly aluminum chloride. [1:05:47, 1:05:48]: Uh, Mr. Blanc, go ahead, please. [1:05:49, 1:05:59]: Mayor, I'd like to make a motion to approve the uh increase$5,000 to for counseling for the uh purchase order number uh 38150 for the uh um [1:06:00, 1:06:01]: For the um [1:06:01, 1:06:04]: Um for the фосфорос. [1:06:04, 1:06:08]: C C twenty fifty for this uh purchase. No second. [1:06:09, 1:06:25]: I second. Okay, Miss Ms. Gantt, second that any further discussion? And if not, all in favor, please indicate. Aye. Okay. Okay, this is an that is announced decision. Okay, thank you very much. Appreciate it. And now for my comments. [1:06:26, 1:06:30]: And a couple things here. One is that yes, sir. [1:06:30, 1:06:37]: You would do me a favor and indulge me. Based on the fact that we had such a great weekend, I would would I suggest that. [1:06:38, 1:06:47]: All the council members be able to make a comment tonight and return council comments to the agenda because of the historic occasion that we just [1:06:47, 1:06:50]: uh went to so everybody could talk about what happened. [1:06:50, 1:06:54]: Just since we eat in end in the meeting pr fairly quickly. [1:06:54, 1:06:59]: That everybody could say a few words about the magnificent uh occurrence over the weekend. [1:07:00, 1:07:05]: Well, I was gonna cover that uh in my comments, but uh we'll see what the council wants to do. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [1:07:06, 1:07:12]: Mayor, you know, I'm I'm fine with your comments because I just don't want uh [1:07:12, 1:07:25]: us to prolong anything and you know when when you look at it being an election year, I just don't want things to get too political. I think that your comments right now, and it's I think it's up to you to decide whether you want to deviate from that. But uh [1:07:25, 1:07:38]: You know, this is sealed. I mean, make your comments. We do what we gotta do. Uh people enjoyed it. It's been all over social media, it's been all over the uh newspapers, and everybody knows that Stock Bridge is moving in a great direction. So [1:07:38, 1:07:39]: You know [1:07:40, 1:07:46]: To prolong thirty more minutes for count counselor to come in on a on on an event is kind of interesting right now for me. [1:07:49, 1:08:09]: Appreciate it. No problem. All right. Well, I mean, I was I was gonna cover all that. Uh I was gonna start with uh with uh T-SPLOST actually is what I'm gonna start with. And I want the citizens to know that T-SPLOST is extremely important. This uh additional penny on a dollar is very helpful for us in in Starbury's and also Henry County. So that's November second. Uh that you need to vote yes. [1:08:09, 1:08:26]: For T S PLOS. Now, if you vote yes, that's estimated to be roughly$245 to$250 million over a five-year period for the county itself. And the city of Stobbridge is scheduled to get$30.5 million and estimated over that five-year period. Now, obviously. [1:08:26, 1:08:46]: We have a program set of improvements on transportation that we want to do. And I want to just talk to you about a little bit about that. And these improvements will include Rock Croix Road widening. It also includes uh Hudson Bridge and Eagles Landing Parkway resurfacing. Uh, we're looking at, of course, all types of of [1:08:46, 1:09:06]: Of um curb, gutter, sidewalks, resurfacing, traffic, and safety improvements for many, many streets within side of City Limited Stockbridge, such as Wilson Avenue, Nolan Street, Child Street, Walker Street, Wells Street, Jennings Way, Second Street, First Street, Ty Street, Church Street, Carrie May Lane. [1:09:06, 1:09:15]: Davison Parkway, Old Atlanta Road, Davis Road, Shields Road, MLK Senior Heritage Trail, Burke Street, Walt Stevens. [1:09:16, 1:09:17]: Love Street. [1:09:18, 1:09:38]: Count uh Country Club Drive, Reeves Creek Trail Extensions, and Bush Creek. Those are the type of improvements over the five-year period we would do in the city of Stockbridge. We got programmed, but citizens, constituents, we need you to vote yes to the T-SPLOST November 2nd. If you do that, we'll get it done. If you don't do that for some strange reason, [1:09:38, 1:09:53]: reason, then it'll take a lot longer to get those things done and those improvements made uh and uh conducted inside the city limits itself. Okay, so we need your support in that. Please please vote yes, November 2nd on T Splash. Of course, we're still living in a pandemic. [1:09:53, 1:10:13]: So you you still have to wear your mask, and we want to encourage everybody to get uh tested and vaccinated. Testing is good, but vaccination is better. Right now, the uh for the um state of Georgia, only 47% of uh population in the state of Georgia is fully vaccinated, and only roughly 55% of the uh in [1:10:13, 1:10:33]: Individuals in the state are really only have one vaccination shot. Vaccinations, of course, are free and safe and then they'll hopefully assist you to keep you alive. Henry County, we've had over 27,866 confirmed cases. And so far, unfortunately, we had 395 deaths over the course of this last year. [1:10:33, 1:10:34]: Year and a half. [1:10:35, 1:10:55]: Free COVID-19 testing is done every day at Red Hawk Field, located at Henry Parkway, right down the street from the public health department, right across the street where the Henry County uh commissioned admin office is located. That's Monday to Friday, 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. Okay. And of course, you can always contact the Department of Health at 800-847-425-275-275-2. [1:10:55, 1:10:57]: four six two. [1:10:58, 1:11:07]: at four six two two I believe it is. I'm sorry. And to call them in reference to uh getting to make an appointment in this aspect as well or state of Georgia Health Department as eight eight eight [1:11:08, 1:11:11]: Uh four five seven zero one eight six. [1:11:12, 1:11:32]: Vaccine vaccine approval, the FDA approved the first COVID-19 vaccine, Pfizer uh biotech for individuals 16 years or older. The vaccination, or excuse me, the vaccine continues under a the what you call U, excuse me, EUA emergency use authority for individuals 12 to 15. [1:11:32, 1:11:52]: 15 years old. And the third dose for the Pfizer vaccination is right now available for immune compromised individuals. So it's pretty safe to do get the vaccination and please do so. And eventually we'll be able to stomp out this particular virus itself. [1:11:52, 1:11:56]: And obviously, as was mentioned earlier, we had a fantastic event. [1:11:56, 1:11:58]: This past Saturday. [1:11:58, 1:12:03]: with a grand opening of our State of Art Amphitheater. And yes, there's been nothing but good positive reviews about that. [1:12:04, 1:12:07]: Uh Patty LaBelle and Gladys Knight just turned it turned it out. [1:12:07, 1:12:25]: I mean, really, it was a great time and a great time had by all, I will say. And uh we will continue to do those uh those uh great concerts and those great times as years go on. The very next concert is uh set for October 23rd, Saturday, October 23rd be eight o'clock. [1:12:26, 1:12:46]: And I have the I think I have this correct now, but tickets will go on sale tomorrow at 12 noon. Tomorrow 12 noon. And that'll be for Freddie Jackson and Chaka Khan. So that's October 23rd, uh Saturday, 8 p.m. Freddie Jackson, the initial um uh the initial uh individual on stage with the main [1:12:46, 1:13:00]: event will be Chaka Khan. And so look forward to another great event in a couple of weeks from now. And then uh of course this is just a prelude to what the 2022 season will look like. But fantastic. All types of of of um [1:13:01, 1:13:21]: Great public reviews from newspaper articles. I guess I'm from Black Enterprise as well. This fantastic. And so nothing but a great, great thing. So we got to continue this momentum going on and continue to do great things for our city and make Starbury's even greater city than it than it is today. [1:13:20, 1:13:40]: To the upcoming meetings and announcements. Main Street Advisory Board meeting is second Friday of each month, 9 a.m. by way of Zoom, which is October 8th. The city council meeting at 6 p.m. by way of Zoom, second Monday of each month, October 11th. Youth Council meetings 5:30 by way of Zoom, second Wednesday of each month, October 13th. [1:13:41, 1:13:47]: The Downtown Development Authority meeting is 6 p.m. by way of Zoom, third two uh third Tuesday of each month, which is October 19th. [1:13:47, 1:13:53]: Youth Council Advisor meeting at 630 by way of Zoom third Tuesday of each month, which is October 19th. [1:13:53, 1:14:03]: The planning commission meeting is at 6 p.m. by way of Zoom, fourth Thursday of each month, October 28th, and our city council uh work session. [1:14:04, 1:14:22]: is uh the last Tuesday months would be October 16th, but our council meeting uh in October is going to be, I believe it's October 11th, I believe it is. Um I believe it's October 11th. Uh that'd be that Monday, uh that first uh second Monday in in the month. [1:14:22, 1:14:30]: Uh that's all my uh my comments at this time. And Ms. Barber, I don't know, would you have your hand up for something, man? What's what's on your mind? [1:14:30, 1:14:41]: Can you um speak about Zumba? We are continuing the Zumba classes. I'm sorry. Well go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. We're continuing our Zumba classes every Saturday beginning at 8 a.m. [1:14:41, 1:14:42]: At Clark Park. [1:14:43, 1:14:51]: Hope to see you there. Good deal. Appreciate it. Wasn't on my list, but I appreciate you saying that. Maybe you said October 16th. That's on here, October 28th. [1:14:52, 1:14:57]: October twenty four to kid city council work session. [1:14:57, 1:14:59]: Last Tuesday beast month. [1:15:00, 1:15:05]: It's October twenty eighth. October I guess it says October twenty sixth here. Is it October twenty eighth? [1:15:06, 1:15:07]: What's the calendar look like? [1:15:10, 1:15:18]: That's what we have October twenty eighth on here. Uh well I'm sorry, it's twenty sixth. October twenty sixth. But you said sixteenth. I'm sorry, but you said sixteenth early. [1:15:19, 1:15:24]: No, and then the council meeting. I'm sorry, our next council meeting is actually on October eleventh. [1:15:24, 1:15:27]: All right, which is Columbus Day. It's October evening October eleventh, six o'clock. [1:15:28, 1:15:29]: Gamble. [1:15:29, 1:15:32]: All right. On that note, do we need to go into a second session? [1:15:35, 1:15:41]: All right. If if no in the next session, I'm uh I need a motion to um adjourn our meet. [1:15:41, 1:15:43]: Mr. Blount so moves there a second. [1:15:44, 1:15:48]: Mr. Alexander second that all in favor, please indicate. [1:15:49, 1:15:49]: Hi. Yeah. [1:15:50, 1:15:53]: Fantastic. Announced your season. This is a very quick meeting tonight, ladies and gentlemen. [1:15:53, 1:15:57]: Have a good day, good time. Take care of yourself and God bless you all. Bye bye.