Category: City Council

--- title: Special Called Meeting date: 2025-08-18 source: 2025-08-18_Special_Called_Meeting.wav --- [0:11:47, 0:11:50]: Yes, sir? Yes. [0:11:50, 0:12:02]: Alright ladies and gentlemen, I'm gonna get started on our special call meeting. Uh this is August 18th, uh 2025, and I have 926. Okay. [0:12:03, 0:12:05]: Please stand for the invocation. [0:12:08, 0:12:28]: Lord, thank you for bringing us together once again to do this business of the citizens that we that serve, that we serve in this aspect. Allow us to make good, solid decisions in reference to the items that come before us. Give us strength to go forward and continue to do the best we can for our community. Be us always, Lord, in your name. Amen. [0:12:28, 0:12:41]: Amen. Amen. Pledge allegiance. Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. To the Republic of what it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, liberty, justice for all. [0:12:42, 0:12:43]: Madam Clerk, Roll Call, please. [0:12:46, 0:12:51]: Mayor Ford? Present. Mayor Pro Tem Gantt. Present. Councilmember Thomas. [0:12:52, 0:12:55]: Councilmember Thomas is not in attendance. Council Member Berry. [0:12:56, 0:13:16]: Let the breaker reflect. Councilmember Berry is not in attendance. Councilmember Barber. Present. Council Member Alexander. Present. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate that. Council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. So moved. Okay. Second. Okay, from Mr. Alexander. Ms. Gantt all in favor, please indicate. Thank you very much. Announced decision there. We have new business. Council consider. [0:13:16, 0:13:31]: consideration to approve the resolution encouraging the attainability of a floss tax relief and collaboration between the Henry County and its receptive respective uh cities, presented by um Sean Evanson, our city manager, sir, please. [0:13:33, 0:13:53]: Uh good morning, uh Mayor and Council, uh community. Uh yes, to uh before you we have a resolution uh before you that we are requesting to be adopted. Uh just to give some context and some reference behind this particular document. For the last several weeks, uh the city of Stockbridge, along with the other [0:13:53, 0:14:13]: Municipalities here in Herring County have met uh with the county in reference to floss. Uh these meetings um had some substantive conversations and discussion on the best uh course of action in the distribution in the collection and distribution of floss. Uh for the people that don't know what floss is. [0:14:13, 0:14:33]: Uh FLOSS is a local option sale tax approved by voters that allows municipalities to collect a dedicated sales tax for specific purposes, usually tied to local needs such as infrastructure, public safety, or community development. Unlike general sales tax, FLOSS funds are restricted in use and cannot be spent outside voter tax. [0:14:33, 0:14:53]: Or approved categories. Um, so that that's just a little background of what floss is. So we um after these uh the last few weeks of discussion and talks about floss, uh the municipalities decide to the best way forward in the distribution, collection, and distribution of the floss tax is to use. [0:14:53, 0:15:13]: Use the model that has been used before with the counties and the municipalities, such as the loss and SPLOS. The county proposed a different method, which was referred to them by a consultant from Rochester that wanted to deviate. [0:15:13, 0:15:20]: [927.6, 947.6]: 34.22% across all entities in the county to include the minute municipalities. However, after careful consideration and looking at the different breakdowns, the municipalities decide that the best way to collect and distribute the flaws tax. [0:15:47, 0:16:02]: Tax is through the model once again that was established uh long before uh FLOS came about, which was Loss and SPLOS. So pending your questions, uh this is how the resolution came to be. [0:16:02, 0:16:15]: Uh we understand the county's position on this, um, but once again, after further discussion with other municipalities, we believe that this would better serve the city of Stockbridge uh electing this particular model. [0:16:17, 0:16:27]: Thank you, uh, Mr. Edmondson. Yeah, uh maybe I might have missed something. Just a sort of clarification. Uh upon approval, provided we approve this, this still has to go to referendum for a citizens vote in November. [0:16:28, 0:16:32]: Yes. So the goal for today is to basically uh [0:16:33, 0:16:44]: get a formal decision from the mayor and council on our stance, which is the adopting the model of loss, um, to present to the count uh [0:16:44, 0:17:04]: the board of commissioners uh so that they can make a determination whether or not they will accept or not. Um so our hopes is that the county will accept the model that the municipalities have agreed to uh elect for distribution and also collection. So [0:17:04, 0:17:12]: It is our hopes that the county sees that, you know, we all in agreement and this is the direction of the city and adopt that model as well. [0:17:13, 0:17:22]: And a part of approval I would imagine we myself, or excuse me, we collectively, along the other cities have to sign some type of agreement with the county in reference to this as well. [0:17:22, 0:17:42]: Yeah, so these r this resolution just basically formalized our decision and adopting that the loss model for flaws. Uh however, what would happen upon its its acceptance is they would uh construct a IGA, which will come down as well, and uh we'll adopt the IGA as well as they develop it, depending on what determination. [0:17:42, 0:17:50]: Is is is is comes about from all the municipalities and what the county decides to agree. So appreciate it. Mr. Alexander. [0:17:50, 0:17:51]: You had a question? [0:17:51, 0:18:11]: Yes, thank you so much. I appreciate this. I just want to speak directly to the citizens for a second, which is certainly this is an opportunity of a lifetime that has been presented, and we like to thank our state legislature and our state legislative board. Property owners have been taxed and taxed. [0:18:11, 0:18:31]: Taxed and taxed. This is an opportunity to reduce property taxes on the county level and on the city level. According to the Georgia Municipal Association, most of the cities in Georgia would be practically able to eliminate their city property tax, which we instituted in 2021. [0:18:31, 0:18:51]: twenty three should this one cent sales tax pass on the ballot in November. But in order for it to get to the ballot, the Henry County and all four cities have to agree on the method. And you know, it was great to be at the municipal dinner the other night and have everybody. [0:18:51, 0:19:11]: Say and feel that uh co cooperation and unity was in the air. And certainly as we approve uh our recommendation, we're gonna go to the table with a sense of humility and understanding that we're gonna put the citizens first and we're not gonna have [0:19:11, 0:19:31]: These uh the contentious debates between the city and the counties, we're going to come with a sense of collaboration and that we're all going to work together because, in the end, in my calculations that I have done basically for a homeowner like myself, basically it would save me about a thousand. [0:19:31, 0:19:50]: A year or a homeowner like yourself who lives in a house between$350,000 and$400,000, it would save you about$1,000 a year minimum in property taxes. Because what we need to understand is that this FLOSS works exactly like the SPLOSS tax. So every time somebody comes to Henry County. [0:19:50, 0:19:52]: And they stay at a hotel. [0:19:53, 0:20:13]: They pay that tax. Every time somebody comes to Costco to shop, they pay that tax. Every time we any type of transaction takes place at a cash register here in the city of Stockbridge and Henry County wide, those citizens will be assisting us in moving forward. And certainly, let me speak for myself. [0:20:13, 0:20:33]: It was a tough decision to implement a city property tax here in the city of Stockbridge when we uh formed a police department and we moved forward with the amphitheater. And I understand that we're paying that off here in August, that we made that decision, but it certainly would be. [0:20:33, 0:20:53]: Be uh an amazing thing to say that we implemented a city tax in 2023 and we're basically able to help the citizens eliminate that tax here in the year 2025 and have complete support for the police department, uh the amphitheaters, such. [0:20:53, 0:21:13]: Such other facilities that we have throughout the city, public works, because it would provide uh monies that would go directly uh to relieving property taxes dollar for dollar. And I think it's very important. Number one, uh the most important thing is to emphasize: should voters decide to approve this. [0:21:13, 0:21:33]: Tax in November, every single cent has to be used for property tax relief. You can't use it for anything else other than that. It is restricted to relieving property taxes on the county and city side. The money cannot be used for anything else in the city besides that. [0:21:32, 0:21:44]: So I appreciate it and um I just wanna make sure that we're going to the table with a sense of collaboration because this is something that really would benefit the citizens and as a win for everybody. [0:21:45, 0:21:48]: Thank you, sir. Counsel any other c I'm sorry, do counsel any other comments? [0:21:49, 0:21:51]: I have to do that. [0:21:51, 0:21:52]: Um [0:21:52, 0:21:53]: So [0:21:54, 0:22:04]: The county had proposed thirty four point two percent to be divided amongst all the count all the s municipalities. Is that what took place? That left them with um [0:22:06, 0:22:18]: That was a difference of three point three percent. So had we agreed with what the was suggestion was, they would have gotten an additional three point oh three percent. But instead [0:22:19, 0:22:25]: We decided to go based off are we going off of the census or so we're going off of the twenty twenty census still? [0:22:26, 0:22:46]: No, we're not going off the uh it's it's based on the proceed the proceeds based upon the twenty twenty-four years census survey and a matter which parties exhaustively negotiated and resolved recent jurisdiction sale tax, which was the loss. So that's right. So that's basically what we decided to go with instead of the recommended thing from the consumer. [0:22:45, 0:23:05]: And I think that's fair. It's a little bit more of an accurate number. Um, as you know, we've had to go through that based off of the population and the annexation of Stockbridge. Right. So those numbers to me are a little bit more fair. And if that's the case, then I definitely would approve this. I I my um because [0:23:05, 0:23:12]: 'cause I think that's in the best interest of Stockbridge and other municipalities. Um [0:23:12, 0:23:23]: And I don't will it completely replace it won't replace the property taxes, but it will help reduce right some of the um expenditures and rollback. Is that what we're hearing? [0:23:23, 0:23:43]: Yes, ma'am. It it offsets it um by a percentage. We the the closer you get to a hundred percent is eliminated altogether as Councilmember Alexander has said before. Um and that's the reason why we chose this model, because had we chose the other percentage breakdown, we get farther and farther away from completely eliminating it. And so [0:23:43, 0:24:02]: You know what I mean? So if we took a different collection rate, is no way the offset won't be as much as we could for our residents. So that's the reason why we elected this model. Okay. And our rate is fourteen point seven three at this final collection. Yes. All right. All right. Thank you. Um, okay, go ahead. Is Barber's comments? [0:24:03, 0:24:23]: I'd like to make a motion to approve a resolution encouraging the obtainability of floss tax relief in collaboration between Henry County and its respective cities. Second. All right, for Miss Barber and Mr. Alexander are all in favor of indicate. She announced the decision. Thank you very much. Thank you. And on that note, I need a motion to adjourn. [0:24:23, 0:24:26]: Yep. You got anything else there? No. [0:24:26, 0:24:32]: So move. Okay. Is there a second? Second. Okay, from Miss Gantt to Mr. Alexander on favor, please indicate. [0:24:32, 0:24:34]: Our media is down journal. God bless you all. [0:24:37, 0:24:38]: Only minutes to the next one.

--- title: Regular Council Meetings date: 2025-08-11 source: 2025-08-11_Regular_Council_Meetings.wav --- [0:00:57, 0:01:15]: Absolutely. Okay. All right, ladies and gentlemen. We are I've been told that we are now live, we're recording, and this is always a good time to have our our ceremonial uh process of our meeting this evening. And uh so we're gonna start off with uh all of you are special, without a doubt. Everybody's special, right? [0:01:16, 0:01:23]: But we got the honor here that we have Miss Georgia USA International, Sakari Valentine. I got it right? [0:01:23, 0:01:25]: Okay. Come on up, please. [0:01:30, 0:01:32]: Now now this is uh [0:01:33, 0:01:35]: This is the first time obviously she and I've met. [0:01:36, 0:01:56]: And uh I think you can still hear me the mic's right there. I think you still hear me here. So uh here in Starbury's the other population we want to honor you uh for uh for your all your accomplishments and the fact that you actually live within the city, so that's even makes it more special. And uh so uh we want everybody listening, right, right, or recording. If you don't [0:01:55, 0:02:15]: You need to move. You need to come here and join us. All right, so let me go through this process, okay? Socory Valentine, Miss Georgia USA, U.S. International 2025. Whereas Socorry Valentine, a Stockbridge resident, captured the title of Miss Georgia U.S. International 2025, only one of the most prestigious state titles. [0:02:15, 0:02:16]: in the country. [0:02:17, 0:02:21]: Whereas Sakori is a proud representative of today's modern woman. [0:02:21, 0:02:41]: Who is passionate about empowering women and girls, championing cultural understanding, and advocating for global goals that reflect the core values of the Miss U.S. International Organization. Whereas Corey graduated from Georgia State University with a BBA in finance and has a successful career in sales working and as an account manager. [0:02:41, 0:02:43]: manager for a startup company. [0:02:43, 0:02:52]: Outside of her current work uh in a promotional products, Corey offers uh uh etiquette lessons to women and children as a certified etiquette consultant. [0:02:53, 0:03:10]: Whereas through her initiatives, a refined woman, Shakari is passionate about reaching young women and equipping them with the tools they need to carry themselves confidently with poise. And whereas Shakari recently competed for the coveted title of Miss US International, [0:03:10, 0:03:30]: Geez. On July 6, 2020 uh 2025 in Washington, D.C., placed in the top 12 of the year's competition, earning the leadership award and receiving commitment to our planet recognition. Now therefore I am PS4 by virtual authority vested than me as the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. And on behalf of City Council members out now [0:03:30, 0:03:50]: Alexander, Yolanda Barber, Kyle Berry, Lakesa Gannon, and Fonzo Thomas to hereby recognize Sakari Valentine for instilling confidence, teaching modern etiquette, grace, and refined social skills to girls and women of all ages throughout the state of Georgia. And witness thereof, I have hereunto set my hand in the great seal city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the eleventh day of August year of our Lord two thousand. [0:03:50, 0:04:00]: And I signed a proclamation along with our clerk Vanessa Holliday. And congratulations to you. I'll take that [0:04:01, 0:04:13]: Now I probably should be able to no no no no no don't go away because what happens what happens is whenever you do this, you did I did the mic for you, but I'm gonna give it back to you because you have the floor. Whatever comments you'd like to make. [0:04:13, 0:04:14]: Go ahead. [0:04:14, 0:04:34]: Thank you so much for this proclamation. As he said, my name is Shikori Valentine, and I'm a certified etiquette consultant through my business, A Refined Woman, where I teach etiquette and poise to young women and adults to help them increase their confidence in the way that they show up in the world. I noticed that in many times, especially with social media, [0:04:34, 0:04:45]: We lack the social cues that are necessary to succeed in today's society. And I'm so thankful that I have the opportunity to bring this lost art back to life. Thank you. [0:04:47, 0:04:58]: So anybody anybody else here that wan wanna speak uh in reference to this recognition? No, it's just me. Just you okay. Well we're gonna take a uh picture here, I'm gonna lay this down. [0:05:00, 0:05:04]: Okay. And um I guess this would work right here? [0:05:04, 0:05:06]: Hey [0:05:14, 0:05:15]: Right. [0:05:18, 0:05:20]: Congratulations. [0:05:22, 0:05:26]: Thank you very much. Appreciate you. [0:05:27, 0:05:34]: Alrighty. So actually I probably just need to make sure I'm just right on here. Let me turn let me turn this off. I'll just go right here. [0:05:36, 0:05:41]: So uh let's see here. We have several different oaths of offices here and um [0:05:44, 0:05:45]: Jalen Holman. [0:05:46, 0:05:48]: All right, come on up, sir. And [0:05:54, 0:05:56]: So listen. [0:05:56, 0:05:58]: No, on this side, please. [0:05:58, 0:06:17]: 'Cause whenever take pi no no face me okay face me. Okay, no problem, no problem. I like to get the the seal of the of the uh city in the background. So um this deals on the Main Street Advisory Board, oath of office. So I'm gonna take this and uh speak in small snippets and before you repeat after me, all right? So raise your right hand. [0:06:17, 0:06:20]: I state your name. I'll tell you a moment. [0:06:20, 0:06:23]: Board member? Board member. Do solemnly swear and affirm? [0:06:24, 0:06:25]: You saw me swear and firm? [0:06:25, 0:06:25]: Yeah. [0:06:26, 0:06:31]: Some sweater born. Okay. That I will faithfully perform? That will faithfully perform. Oh. [0:06:31, 0:06:35]: Perform. The duties of the Main Street Advisory Board? Duties of the Main Street Board. [0:06:35, 0:06:42]: Finally word. On the city of Stockbridge. And I will? I do will. [0:06:42, 0:06:47]: To the best of my ability. To my ability. Support and defend. Support and defend. [0:06:47, 0:06:55]: The charter thereof. As well as the constitution and laws and law of the state of Georgia. [0:06:55, 0:06:57]: in the United States of America. [0:06:58, 0:06:58]: Exactly. [0:06:59, 0:07:09]: And that's just mechanical. Okay. I further affirm that. Further affirm that. Upon assumption of this office. Of this office. I do not hold any unaccounted for. [0:07:09, 0:07:12]: Public money due and payable to the state. [0:07:13, 0:07:15]: Any political subdivision of the state. [0:07:16, 0:07:25]: Division of the state. The city of Stockbridge. Or any authority thereof. Or authority thereof. Nor do I hold any other office. Well you can [0:07:26, 0:07:46]: Any other office of trust of trust of the government of the United States of America of this state of any foreign state as prescribed by the law by the law of the state of Georgia. I will perform the duties of my office in the best interest of the city. [0:07:46, 0:08:05]: Public city. A stop bridge. And the best of my ability. Without fear. Without fear. Favor. Favor. Affection. Affection. Reward. Reward. Expect or expectation thereof. Expectation thereof. Okay, this is the 11th day of August 2025 and congratulations, sir. [0:08:05, 0:08:13]: So the the the floor is yours if you'd like to say anything. We gotta sign a document here, but there's is the mic is here, sir. If you had anything you'd like to say. [0:08:14, 0:08:15]: Uh yeah, sure. Um [0:08:16, 0:08:34]: Well, as a resident of or as I was born in Stockbridge, so I want to, you know, to join this board to I guess, you know, impart my wisdom upon the city like as a former resident of the Stockbridge. So as a as a designer I want to I guess help [0:08:35, 0:08:55]: create a better city that that I once, you know, would know of or could have have when when I was resident here. Okay. So thank you. No problem. Thank you. All right? Yeah, what so what it is is yeah what if we sign here and there's a two documents, yeah. And you on a main street, did you all have anything you wanted to say at this time? [0:08:55, 0:09:05]: We we have a gift for we would like to make sure we acknowledge his wife who came here to join us. Oh, okay. Fantastic. How you doing? Hi, how are you doing? [0:09:05, 0:09:11]: And you are S J Okay. S J All right. Oh thank you. [0:09:11, 0:09:24]: Did you want to say anything? No. Just offering. No. Okay. Just want to give a picture of your guy. We want you in the picture, didn't you? You can give the camera to somebody else. Okay. [0:09:24, 0:09:27]: Someone else could take the picture. [0:09:28, 0:09:45]: We I we'll give it to you as well, take all the time. Okay. Well come on come on, okay come this way as long as we get the seal. When we get the seal and steady, come on down. Shift one, come on shift on down. Okay. Okay. Um delay is good. Okay. [0:10:00, 0:10:12]: Congratulations to you, sir. Until you sign that, so give us a holiday and sign as a clerk and she'll get you a copy of that, okay? All right. Good deal? [0:10:17, 0:10:21]: So what we have next is our uh due council and uh [0:10:22, 0:10:27]: So we're gonna swear then in. Olivia forgot to pronounce that duck. [0:10:29, 0:10:35]: She's she's not here? Oh okay. How about uh Caleb? [0:10:35, 0:10:36]: Caitlin is here. [0:10:37, 0:10:40]: Yeah, yes. That's good. [0:10:44, 0:10:45]: All right. [0:10:47, 0:10:47]: I didn't [0:10:48, 0:10:50]: If I got a plow swipe, Aiden? [0:10:50, 0:10:50]: Aiden? Yeah. [0:10:51, 0:10:52]: Okay, it's up there. [0:10:57, 0:10:58]: Marcus? [0:10:59, 0:11:00]: All right. [0:11:04, 0:11:09]: Sailor. Sailor, excuse me. Sailor. [0:11:14, 0:11:29]: Now this is uh this is pretty unique because of all the years that I've actually swore in you council members, normally it's more ladies, young ladies and guys. So so I mean, I the guys are stepping up this time. I appreciate you young men. [0:11:29, 0:11:44]: That's outstanding. Okay? So here's what I'm gonna do. Uh and I guess once again this uh Miss Duck is not here, right? Yeah, I'll leave you over there. Okay, all right. So we're gonna do I'm gonna ask you to raise your right hand, okay? [0:11:45, 0:11:49]: And I'm gonna I'm gonna uh try to take a small little snippet so no one can repeat after me. [0:11:50, 0:11:52]: All right. So I and a state your name. [0:11:52, 0:12:12]: I Caleb Akers. Okay. Do solemnly swear. Do solemnly swear. That I will support. That I will support. Uphold and defend. Uphold and defend. The Constitution of the United States of America. Of the United States of America. And the laws thereof. The laws thereof. That I will support. That I will support. Uphold and defend. Uphold and defend the Constitution. The Constitution. [0:12:12, 0:12:32]: And laws of the state of Georgia. And laws of the state of Georgia. Not inconsistent. Not inconsistent therewith. Therewith. That I will observe and obey the laws. And obey the laws. And ordinances. And ordinances. So the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. Of the city of Starkbridge, Georgia. That it will faithfully perform and discharge the duties. And discharge the duties. [0:12:32, 0:12:52]: Incumbent upon me incumbent upon me as a member of the city of Stockbridge Youth Council. As a city of Stockbridge Youth Council. Fairly and honestly. Fairly and honestly. And to the best of my skill. And to the best of my skill. And ability. And ability. So help me God. So help me God. It's 11th day of August 2025. Congratulations. [0:12:52, 0:13:08]: Okay. Congratulations. Okay. So uh everybody's got a sign at least tw uh twice, okay? So let's see here. This uh one second [0:13:11, 0:13:20]: Sila, this is this is yours. Did anybody w anybody wanna say anything also? If you wanna say anything, Sila, this is yours. I need to sign this as well. [0:13:20, 0:13:20]: [812.9, 819.3]: Uh do you mind if I say something? Okay. Uh you're are you you or Calebs. [0:13:39, 0:13:47]: You're not you're not Aiden Aiden? That's you. Okay. So here's your your two you you want so yeah, sir, if you wanna say something. [0:13:48, 0:14:04]: Um thank I would like to say thank you for this opportunity and uh just everyone being so kind, even with me being for the first meeting, and I'd like to let everyone know that um it's gonna be a great year. Uh thank you again for the opportunity. [0:14:11, 0:14:15]: Okay, this is both yours, sir, Mr. Sellers. Okay. [0:14:20, 0:14:21]: That two. [0:14:22, 0:14:42]: And Kalu? Okay. So you just spoke already. Did you need to you want to say anything? The mic is yours, you would like. Okay. See that? Oh, go ahead. Hi. Um, I would like to say thank you for this opportunity. I'm excited to see the growth um among me and my peers, and I'm just very excited to see the change that we can. [0:14:42, 0:14:44]: [885.0, 886.8]: [0:14:47, 0:14:50]: Thank you. Miss Vanessa, please. I I need your assistance for a second. [0:14:53, 0:14:58]: Uh Marcus? Yes sir. Okay. Um [0:14:59, 0:15:00]: Oh. [0:15:06, 0:15:07]: Yeah. [0:15:10, 0:15:30]: And we're gonna advisor members to speak as well. Sure, if they'd like to do that. Okay, so while they're signing their um pledges, I just want to say as the chair of the Stockford Youth Council, parents thank you for letting us uh mentor and mow your children. We are so proud and so happy that they took the challenge. [0:15:30, 0:15:35]: She even sign up to be a part of the Chaco June Council? [0:15:35, 0:15:55]: We're gonna see you talking. We're gonna get him next too. Um, so this is um part of the council, but um one of the ladies up here is definitely um important because she actually is the the student liaison. So she's uh she has first hand at molding I. [0:15:55, 0:16:08]: children and you're making making sure that they become leaders. You know, they probably are already leaders, but we just want to perfect that. Um so that's um Miss Sharika Zellas and this is the Vice Chair of the Youth Council, Miss Aisha Gamble. [0:16:10, 0:16:13]: So I'm gonna pass the mic to them so they can say something as well. [0:16:17, 0:16:37]: Um, so I just, you know, mirror everything that Renee said. Thank you guys so much for the opportunity. Um, I think this is gonna be a great group. Um, I'm super excited, but I'm excited every year, just so we're clear. Um, but I'm excited for the work they're gonna do. I'm excited to bring some new faces to the youth council. If you guys know any other [0:16:37, 0:16:57]: high school students within, you know, Stockbridge city limits who go to schools within the city of Stockbridge. We are still in recruitment season. We have a couple of more seats. The youth council is only 15 students. So, you know, it is a small group, but it is a mighty group. So we still have a couple of seats to fill and we'll keep [0:16:56, 0:17:16]: the application open until those are full. Um and then anybody who applies wants to cease or feel we will still keep their applications on file for when we open back up to have spaces. So again if you guys have any questions or need anything we'll be in the back we'll be around or of course we also have um miss Cassandra works with us [0:17:16, 0:17:26]: works with us she's always at the city and then miss um vanessa as well so they'll be able to get you in contact with any of us if you have any questions about the youth council. Thank you guys so much. We appreciate it. [0:17:27, 0:17:35]: And want to acknowledge like to acknowledge Representative Sandra Scott for being here uh to support uh also as well. [0:17:37, 0:17:44]: And since I've knowledge did you want to say anything at all, ma'am? You good? [0:17:45, 0:17:47]: Yes. Um good evening. Um [0:17:49, 0:17:51]: Uh huh. [0:17:53, 0:18:13]: Good evening. I'm State Representative Sandra G. Scott and I serve District 76 in Clayton County. But I'm just so glad to be here today to witness this, uh, to witness you all becoming youth um youth um youth counsel members. [0:18:13, 0:18:33]: I want you all to notice a lot of work to be done, and I'm looking forward to the great things that you are going to do to bring change here in Stockbridge. And please invite other youth to come out. It is so important that we get youth involved in the political process and how they can make [0:18:32, 0:18:52]: make change and how they can make a difference in the community in which they live. So I'm so happy to see that you all have thought of yourself to give back to your community. And I'm looking forward to see what you all are doing here in Henry County in Stockbridge. Thank you. [0:18:52, 0:18:55]: Yeah. [0:18:57, 0:19:02]: So we're gonna we're gonna take a picture. Yeah, come on down with us. [0:19:03, 0:19:04]: Well you want it. [0:19:10, 0:19:13]: Right? I just want to go. [0:19:16, 0:19:18]: They would be saying that. [0:19:20, 0:19:21]: [1170.6, 1174.8]: Fantastic. So good? [0:19:35, 0:19:40]: Did you get one more? I think she did it. Oh wait, I'm gonna get one. [0:19:45, 0:19:48]: [1192.1, 1195.6]: Ready running for all of them. [0:19:58, 0:20:05]: Thank you. So you've got to give no problem. You've got to give these to the must other mess. [0:20:06, 0:20:08]: [1216.6, 1223.1]: Okay. Okay. So moment thank you, Messiah. [0:20:24, 0:20:40]: No, so we can leave it because she didn't have to be a little bit more. I have to do that. [0:20:59, 0:21:01]: Ladies and gentlemen, we need to get a meeting in our way. [0:21:39, 0:21:40]: Come on back. [0:22:00, 0:22:00]: Yeah. [0:22:02, 0:22:06]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, let's get the meeting underway. Council, come back to the dial, so we can get started, please. [0:22:15, 0:22:18]: [1344.2, 1346.5]: All right, uh let's see here. [0:22:27, 0:22:31]: I have now seven twenty-five. [0:22:32, 0:22:36]: And I'd like to call our council meeting for August eleventh to order. [0:22:37, 0:22:38]: Invocation. [0:22:39, 0:22:41]: Invocation, Mr. Alexander, sir. [0:22:43, 0:22:45]: Please stand if you can. [0:22:47, 0:22:48]: Yeah. [0:22:56, 0:22:57]: On you, sir. [0:22:57, 0:23:17]: Everyone bow your heads, please. In the mighty and masculinous name of Jesus, everyone, look deep inside your soul. In this council, I ask you to do the same, to lead the city with guidance and vision and an equal opportunity for everyone out there to thrive. [0:23:17, 0:23:37]: To prosper and to understand and doing the best will and will and to have your way. Looking into the future, only you can see what we can't see. But we trust your guiding hand and your covering for the city of Stockbridge, and we understand that the best days are yet to come. [0:23:37, 0:23:57]: And we will do our act in your will in your way. Amen. Amen. Now for pledge of allegiance, a pledge allegiance to the United States of America. And to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, individual, with liberty and justice for all. [0:23:57, 0:23:58]: Madam Clerk. [0:23:59, 0:24:00]: Good evening, everyone. [0:24:02, 0:24:03]: Mayor Ford. Present. [0:24:04, 0:24:08]: Mayor Pro Tem Gantt. Present. Councilmember Thomas. [0:24:15, 0:24:20]: Okay. Councilmember Berry? Present. Council Member Barber. Present. Council Member Alexander. [0:24:20, 0:24:26]: Present. Be accorded, we have a call. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:24:26, 0:24:45]: So move. Okay, is there a second? From Ms. Gantt to Mr. Berry, all in favor, please indicate. Thank you very much. Ladies and gentlemen, earlier part of the day we had a ceremonial review and a proclamation was issued to um Miss Georgia USA US excuse me international Sakari Valentine. [0:24:45, 0:25:05]: It's fantastic to have her here. She act actually is a uh resident of Stockbridge. So it was wonderful to have her here and we issue that proclamation. Which is great to see because in the last [0:25:05, 0:25:13]: For several years has been mostly young ladies. So I'm glad to see some young men on the council here as well. On that note, um, Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments at all? [0:25:14, 0:25:18]: Mayor Ford, we do have a public comment, Mr. Robert Schul. [0:25:18, 0:25:38]: Okay. As it comes forward, uh public comments. All persons wishing to speak for a public comment must sign in the city clerk prior to the beginning of the meeting. You must sign your name, address, and phone number. You'll be able to address the mayor and council for three minutes. Speakers must respect all members of the elected body, officials and staff. Definition, unruliness, or swearing. [0:25:38, 0:25:44]: Sir, your name and address, please. [0:25:45, 0:25:52]: Yes, sir. Robert Schul. My address is two fifty three Shields Road here in Stockbridge. Okay, go right here, sir. [0:25:52, 0:26:12]: My concern is the uh speeding on Shields Road, which I've been brought up before. Um I had taken some pictures of the burnout marks that they're doing now down that road as a drag strip and I sent it to uh Councilwoman Barber. Um still haven't got anything. I asked for speed humps. [0:26:12, 0:26:24]: to try to slow it down. Um I'm hoping that somebody can get back with me on this um and get this resolved because it's a p safety issue on that street at this point. [0:26:24, 0:26:35]: Okay, thank you. Um Ms. Sean. Okay. We'll pet make note of that, sir. We'll we'll we'll work on that. Thank you. Thank you. Uh-huh. All right, any other comments? [0:26:40, 0:26:40]: Okay. [0:26:41, 0:26:43]: Саланки бомані. [0:26:43, 0:26:44]: Okay. [0:26:53, 0:26:56]: Name and address please. My name is Shalan K. Balmani. [0:26:56, 0:27:00]: Sixty eight twenty five Saginaw Drive in Rex, Georgia. [0:27:01, 0:27:19]: Right, please. Okay. Greetings, Mayor and Council members and community. Um excuse me. I represent Black Money Movement, which is a marketing firm uh that is deeply rooted in um the African American community. We [0:27:20, 0:27:26]: Work to uplift black owned businesses that represent Black excellence, entrepreneurship, and community. [0:27:26, 0:27:28]: Empowerment. [0:27:28, 0:27:36]: One of our major initiatives is a business directory that connects consumers directly to these establishments. [0:27:36, 0:27:42]: I'm here tonight to inform you of our upcoming signature event, the African Gala. [0:27:43, 0:27:50]: Happening on September twenty sixth, twenty twenty five at the Merlmanders Conference Center in Stockbridge. [0:27:50, 0:28:10]: This cultural and economic celebration will include four scenes, a conversation with powerful speakers, a vibrant African inspired fashion show, a dinner featuring East and West African cuisines, and concluding with a festive. [0:28:10, 0:28:28]: Dance. The event ticket price is$75 per person. We are currently seeking sponsors, vendors, and community support. And I would like to formally invite each of you to attend. [0:28:29, 0:28:41]: Mayor, I would especially like to invite you to be one of the speakers for the event. Um if there are um organizations or individuals you recommend I share this information with. [0:28:42, 0:28:44]: I would uh greatly appreciate it. [0:28:44, 0:28:52]: Appreciate the guidance. Um, I'm happy to speak to anyone after this event or this meeting. Thank you. Thank you. [0:28:52, 0:29:00]: And our our assistant took note of that. Okay. Go ahead, please. Appreciate you. Thank you. Anybody else? [0:29:00, 0:29:18]: Okay. All right, great. Thank you. Uh Council, before you have adoption of the minutes, uh the June sixteenth, twenty twenty-five council special call meeting, July fifteenth, twenty twenty-five council meeting minutes, and also July twenty-ninth, council works at session meeting minutes. And need your um motion to approve those minutes, please. [0:29:22, 0:29:23]: So moved. Is there a second? [0:29:25, 0:29:36]: Ms. Barber seconds that from Miss uh Gantt to Miss Barber, all in favor, please indicate. Okay, approval. All approved. Okay. Um [0:29:41, 0:29:48]: Is it I there I all in favor of the minutes? Councilman Thomas, she's asked to be a little bit of a little bit of a [0:29:55, 0:29:55]: Can't hear. [0:30:02, 0:30:02]: I'm sorry. [0:30:03, 0:30:08]: I did call for vote order. All all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:30:08, 0:30:10]: And I got it all affirmed up here. [0:30:10, 0:30:11]: All four. [0:30:15, 0:30:35]: Thank you. All right. What we have next, ladies and gentlemen, is a public hearing. We've got three different public hearings, three different issues uh to cover tonight. So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna go through initially go through the public hearing rules to cover all three, and we're gonna go through and what I see here, Mr. Ryan, you have uh you have all three of these you'll be presenting. [0:30:35, 0:30:38]: uh but they are they're actually are uh [0:30:39, 0:30:46]: Yeah, one's uh two of district four and one's uh uh city wide. So let me go through the public hearing rules at this point. [0:30:47, 0:31:07]: Please mute all cell phones and other electronic devices. If anyone wishes to speak tonight on a public hearing item, please fill out the form available on the table and hand it to the city clerk before approaching the podium. After each case is called, the council will hear from the city staff, followed by the applicant and the representative regarding the proposed plans for property along with and any [0:31:07, 0:31:18]: other relevant information. The counsel will be free to ask questions at any time before the vote. Following the applicant, anyone who wishes to speak in favor or opposed to the case will have an opportunity to do so. [0:31:18, 0:31:25]: East side will be allowed ten minutes total. Excuse me, additional time will be extended at the discretion of the council. [0:31:25, 0:31:45]: Please keep comments, presentation, professional referring professional, referring only to the facts that are pertinent to the case. We'll not allow comments or personal attacks toward any individual group. Please refrain from the applause or comments from the audience during the public hearing. After the presiding officer recognizes the speaker, he or she shall direct all comments to the presiding officer. [0:31:45, 0:32:05]: And never to the members of the council, staff, or the audience. All comments will be made from the podium where you will be required to state your name and address for the record. Please note that these hearings are not a debate. Failure to comply will cause you to be removed from the chamber and a building by law enforcement if you deviate from these proceedings. Other than the applicant, no person may speak more than [0:32:05, 0:32:25]: Than once the applicant may reserve part or of his or her speaking time as a rebuttal and may speak next and last and may use the entire 10 minutes allowed for the pro side of the application. If questions are raised, the council may ask the applicant to address questions andor concerns. A second for the motion, and we have [0:32:25, 0:32:45]: Any necessary discussion. If the matter is not tabled, the presiding officer will call for a vote to recommend approval or denial of the request. First item for the public hearing deals with the text amendment case TX 2025-01 Council District 4. This is a second reading. Council consideration of text amendment to amend title. [0:32:45, 0:33:05]: twelve Unified Development Code, Section 2.5.3E and Section 2.5.3 F of the City Stockbridge Code of Ordinances relating to the downtown village, DT overlay district, so as to add certain uses to the list of special use requiring a special use permit and to remove certain uses from the list. [0:33:05, 0:33:19]: of prova uh prohibitive uses to allow them to now be permitted uses, provided that the certain requirements are met to provide for severe urgency severe severe ability to repeal conflicting ordinances [0:33:19, 0:33:39]: To provide an effective date for all uh per other purposes. Mr. Anderson, please. Uh good evening, Mayor and Council. Uh Mayor, since this is the um second reading and for the sake of time, I'll just give a brief summary and then we can go into the public hearing. Okay. We uh we did the first reading at the council work session two weeks ago. Okay. [0:33:44, 0:33:55]: Once again, here's a um a map of the downtown village overlay district shown in the um in the lilac color in the PMU which it abuts is shown in the la um in lavender. [0:33:57, 0:33:59]: You can't hear me? Oh, sorry, buddy. Okay. [0:34:00, 0:34:02]: Okay. Um [0:34:04, 0:34:24]: The location of the downtown village overlay district. It mainly consists of the historic city of Stockbridge area and it also includes some adjacent parcels. The DTV, the DTV overlay district regulations shall take precedence over the regulations of all other districts, including the base zoning districts and [0:34:24, 0:34:32]: Any other type of overlay district. The requirements of this district are not intended to apply existing single-family residences. [0:34:34, 0:34:54]: Uh the purpose of the downtown village overlay district is to recognize and affirm the function of the existing traditional downtown as the central focus of commercial, artesian, and civic activities within the community. Two, to allow the existing downtown to flourish, intensify, and expand where wherever it may be appropriate in a manner that is consistent with [0:34:54, 0:35:01]: its traditional character. Three, to provide a local retail, service, artesian, and civic center for the community. [0:35:03, 0:35:06]: Here's the current regulations of the downtown overlay district. [0:35:08, 0:35:20]: Um all permitted uses within the downtown district, residential units which are located above floors and on the rear of commercial and office uses. [0:35:24, 0:35:37]: Special uses, current special uses in the overlay district includes uh bed and breakfast establishment, multi-family residential, passenger depots, and transit shelter, uh, single family residences. [0:35:40, 0:35:44]: Proposed changes by the recommended by the planning and zoning staff includes [0:35:46, 0:36:06]: Well here's a summary of our other ch of the changes we're proposing. We're we're we're proposing to amend title twelve of of the UDC section two point five point three E and Section two point five three L for the downtown village overlay to accomplish the following. Number one, add certain uses to the list of special uses requiring a special permit. So basically [0:36:06, 0:36:26]: Basically, what we're doing is taking certain permitted uses, things that are already allowed by right, and making them governed by a special use permit. This will give council more discretion over what is being allowed downtown. Number two, remove certain uses from the list of prohibited uses and allow them to now be permitted uses, provided that they meet certain requirements. [0:36:26, 0:36:46]: Requirements. Reasons for this text amendment: businesses are interested in locating certain uses in the DTV overlay district, but they are not currently allowed. Such uses are already allowed within the adjacent Parkway mixed-use overlay district, which abuts the downtown district along North Henry Boulevard. Proposed actions replace [0:36:46, 0:36:52]: Remove and replace the existing existing section 2.53E and section 2.53F. [0:36:58, 0:37:18]: So all special uses that's provided in the downtown district, uh bed and breakfast establishments, gasoline station, minor automobile service repair maintenance centers, car washes, convenience stores, and other associated uses. Note these uses are already allowed in the downtown village overlay district, but now we're proposing [0:37:18, 0:37:38]: That they require a special use permit. Like I previously mentioned, this will give council more discretion over these particular uses. Also, it would allow multifamily residential buildings. We need this option so that we can develop the city-owned property downtown that is that's adjacent to City Hall. Because currently we can't develop that mixed-use project because apartment. [0:37:38, 0:37:52]: Farmers aren't allowed downtown. Also, it would add passenger depots and transit shelters, restaurants, takeout establishments, banks and pharmacies with drive-through windows and single family residence. This is what we're proposing to add. [0:37:56, 0:38:06]: Um, list of requirements for special use per uses. A special use must be located on a property which has frontage on either a collector or an arterial road, as is classified f [0:38:07, 0:38:27]: By the Georgia Department of Transportation or the Henry County Department of Transportation. The property must have a base zoning district which allows such uses. All property designs of the base standard of the base zoning district must be met. All existing nonconforming structures may not be enlarged. Building facades on both for both primary and accessory structures. [0:38:27, 0:38:30]: must be constructed of brick on all sides. [0:38:34, 0:38:54]: Um at gasoline stations that are allowed in the DT, in the DTV overlay district with a special use permit, must have an equal number of electric charging stations as gas pumps must be provided on site. Covered canopies must be provided over gas pump and electric charging stations. All acceptable means of of access. [0:38:54, 0:39:05]: And internal circulation must be provided to be determined by the fire marshal. The required number of parking spaces must be provided. The required buffers must be provided. [0:39:06, 0:39:26]: Uh the current and proposed, well, the new proposed list of prohibited uses in the downtown village overlay district. Uh number one, adult entertainment establishment, boarding and rooming homes, including personal care homes, catering establishment, child and adult daycare centers, consignment and thrift stores. [0:39:26, 0:39:46]: Family daycare homes, payday loan, title loan, and money exchange establishment, places of worship, public and private schools and related facilities, tobacco and vape shop, tattoo and piercing studios, extended stay, motels and hotels. I mentioned personal care homes earlier, but it [0:39:46, 0:40:01]: It's um part of four and six, so we just added it again at number thirteen, so we can be clear on that, that personal care homes will not be allowed in the downtown village overlay district. Um and staff recommend approval for these changes. [0:40:02, 0:40:03]: Mm. [0:40:05, 0:40:08]: Okay, council any questions or concerns for writing, please? [0:40:10, 0:40:20]: Several. So this affects my district. The downtown area is within City Council District Four. It's the district that I represent. [0:40:21, 0:40:24]: I know that it is a district that is uh [0:40:24, 0:40:30]: has high interests from our councilmates, investors and everyone else. [0:40:30, 0:40:34]: I want to make sure that we grow our downtown. [0:40:34, 0:40:38]: Ам, со да і локс лил тrivни downтоwn. [0:40:39, 0:40:41]: На компотион ви [0:40:41, 0:40:43]: А лата диффер. [0:40:44, 0:40:52]: One of the questions I have though, I saw the restricted uses. You have um vape shops and tobacco shops. [0:40:53, 0:41:00]: But I don't see tattoo parlors, I don't see nail salons, I don't see barber shops. [0:41:00, 0:41:06]: hookah bars, hair salons, storage facilities, and gasoline shops. [0:41:07, 0:41:09]: I know that there are distance requirements. [0:41:09, 0:41:10]: Um [0:41:10, 0:41:12]: In the is it the overlay districts? [0:41:13, 0:41:15]: That has the distance requirement. [0:41:15, 0:41:20]: The op the uh the dist the distance requirement is citywide. Okay. Citywide. [0:41:20, 0:41:35]: Okay. Well what I want to make sure is that we don't have an over saturation of those businesses. Yes. The ones that I just named. Mm-hmm. So in our downtown. So this list that you have here, I want to make sure that you include [0:41:35, 0:41:37]: Tattoo parlors. It's on the list. [0:41:37, 0:41:40]: Where is that? I put it back. Okay. What about mill salons? [0:41:41, 0:41:45]: Nell Salon's there it's governed by the um the distance requirement. [0:41:47, 0:41:52]: I still would like for you to include it in this list here. Is there a problem with you including it? [0:41:53, 0:41:55]: Mm, no but w um [0:41:55, 0:41:57]: Okay. I'd like to include [0:41:58, 0:42:01]: Nelsons, barbershops. [0:42:01, 0:42:05]: Hookah. Do you have hookah lounges or hookah bars on here? [0:42:05, 0:42:18]: uh tobacco and vape shops. Not not specific who cares lawns, storage facilities, and gas stations. We don't need another gas station in our downtown. And at convenience stores. [0:42:19, 0:42:19]: Okay. [0:42:20, 0:42:21]: We don't need another convenience store. [0:42:24, 0:42:31]: The other um question I have though with the map, can you go to that map again? Um [0:42:32, 0:42:33]: Rest. [0:42:35, 0:42:40]: I know that the DDA map does not include Stockbridge. Um [0:42:41, 0:42:53]: Lakes bed and breakfasts, it should. It's the only business that's left outside of the DDA boundaries. But I like to include Stockbridge Lakes Bed and Breakfast. [0:42:53, 0:43:00]: In this map as well. Okay, this is the the overlay uh district is separate from the uh the DDA map. I know. Okay. I know. [0:43:01, 0:43:08]: Okay. I'm just adding all of this for the record. Okay. However you can make this work, Mr. Edmondson. [0:43:09, 0:43:10]: Um [0:43:14, 0:43:21]: So I wanna ask though, what's driving this request? All of a sudden it came forward. Curious to know. The city owns three acres across the street. [0:43:22, 0:43:24]: And currently can be developed. [0:43:24, 0:43:27]: Because apartments aren't allowed in a downtown village overlay district. [0:43:28, 0:43:43]: That's one of the main factors behind that. Other than that, it's just uh good long range planning strategy by the department taking a proactive step, trying to improve downtown and to encourage the right types of uses in downtown. That's the aim of it. [0:43:44, 0:43:45]: So we are [0:43:46, 0:43:50]: So you're asking us to approve a text amendment to accommodate [0:43:51, 0:43:52]: that proposed development. [0:43:53, 0:43:55]: I don't support it. I won't support it. [0:43:56, 0:44:01]: Those three acres um are better suited for green space, perhaps to fifteen acres. [0:44:02, 0:44:08]: What I don't like is if a proposal is submitted to us and if it does not fit [0:44:08, 0:44:11]: our current standards or requirements here. [0:44:12, 0:44:14]: I'd rather us not try to make things fit. [0:44:15, 0:44:17]: to accommodate the proposals. [0:44:18, 0:44:28]: But nonetheless, I want to make sure that I'm on record with all of those other restrictions that you don't have on your list. This is my district. It affects [0:44:28, 0:44:30]: Residents and other businesses in the area. [0:44:31, 0:44:32]: And I don't want to [0:44:33, 0:44:34]: Saturate. [0:44:35, 0:44:36]: The downtown. [0:44:36, 0:44:38]: That's supposed to be a special [0:44:38, 0:44:56]: district for entertainment, for dining and other recreational activities. Um so those are my comments. Another thing we're trying to do, we have s of a downtown um study or plan that has several recommendations and um [0:44:58, 0:45:15]: some of the some of the um suggestions in that study, um conflicts with the current UDC, some of the recommendations from that from that study. So we're just trying to clear that up that up so that we can properly implement that study and the and the recommendations from that study. [0:45:15, 0:45:21]: So will you be making other recommendations to us for the fifteen acres the city owns as well? [0:45:21, 0:45:22]: Which fifteen acres? [0:45:23, 0:45:28]: The ones at the corner of Rock Quarry and North Henry, behind the Sherwin Williams. [0:45:28, 0:45:39]: Um I'm not sure. Uh w we probably will get to it, but I'm not sure right now. But more than likely we'll look at it. We'll we'll definitely take a look at it, but I'm not sure what type of recommendations we'll make. [0:45:40, 0:45:45]: Okay, I want to, if I may ask, um, because Mr. Edmondson [0:45:46, 0:45:48]: If you don't mind, sir. I know that [0:45:48, 0:45:51]: I wanna know, have you taken a look at this at all? [0:45:56, 0:46:06]: Because I wanna make a recommendation that we table this to continue the discussions, um, to allow you some time to review this if you had not. [0:46:07, 0:46:27]: Um yes ma'am, I have. Um and we had uh small discussion about it. Uh it is my understanding that this was kind of presented uh to also be coming into alignment to the comprehensive plan that we have uh on file right now. Um and also to your concern about those particular items, i.e. [0:46:27, 0:46:47]: convenience stores, etc. The council has the ability to implement a moratorium. And what that allows is in case one do come and apply for a license, if we don't change anything, right, they can actually apply for those licenses. And then what you can do is you could do a moratorium. A moratorium can be up to six months where we go out and study the impact [0:46:47, 0:47:07]: of those type of stores that are prohibited or that falls not le neatly in this particular uh ordinance and that gives us the ability to do some research on it and come back and and and give our recommendation. Um so I I like I said I had glanced over it, they know the history of this where we at. Um I see this in alignment, but [0:47:07, 0:47:25]: Of of course that's up to the government authority to decide whether or not what you will allow it or not. But I did take a look at it initially and uh Mr. Anderson did explain to me the reason why this was to try to come more in in alignment not only with the comprehensive plan, but also the UDC. Correct? Yes, sir. Yep. [0:47:25, 0:47:26]: Mm. [0:47:27, 0:47:29]: Uh um [0:47:31, 0:47:32]: I think we need to have some more [0:47:33, 0:47:33]: In depth. [0:47:34, 0:47:36]: Discussions regarding this. [0:47:36, 0:47:42]: I know our retreat is in September. Perhaps that may be a better time for us to continue discussing this. [0:47:43, 0:47:46]: So I'll wait and I'll yield to my councilmates, but I [0:47:47, 0:47:52]: want to suggest that we table this until then. This is in my district. [0:47:52, 0:47:53]: Thank you. [0:47:54, 0:47:57]: Ms. Oh m Ms. I'm sorry. Thank you. [0:47:57, 0:48:17]: Thank you, Mayor. Um, I'm in favor of this, and I'm gonna there's several reasons why. We've been talking about this for years. Um the LCI was done way before any of us was on Mayor and Council. It was part of the plan, it is on the plan, and it's um part mixed use development. Um I'm also in favor [0:48:17, 0:48:26]: I'm not in favor of eliminating a convenience store, the right type of convenience store in a mixed use development. And what I mean by that is [0:48:27, 0:48:47]: Um the downtown area, if you've ever been to an Avalon or if you've been to Atlantic Station or if you've been to Trilleth down in um Fayetteville, there is a a lot of mixed use buildings with living up top, commercial down below. Now we do have some areas now, thank goodness. [0:48:47, 0:49:07]: Over on the bridges of Jodico. That could be a great example of what we're trying to do in our downtown. Downtown, a goal of ours is live, work, and play environment. This is nothing new. We just need to move the needle forward. We've been planning this for years. We've been planning this before 2020. [0:49:07, 0:49:27]: 2013. We've been planning this in 2010 when they did the vision of it with the LCI plan with the amphitheater, their splash pads, your art center, your community center. All of this is coming into play. And so to be able to do what we planned for so many years. [0:49:27, 0:49:47]: We have to start implementing the groundwork and rules to go by that. And these conditions are perfect for what we're wanting. What we're saying is if we get a mixed-use development, which we are working on, and developer there is a a a developer, I believe, that is interested, or developers. [0:49:47, 0:49:54]: that may be interested in creating this downtown that we've planned out, that's been planned for a very long time. [0:49:54, 0:49:55]: That [0:49:56, 0:50:00]: These are the things that we want to exclude in our downtown area. [0:50:01, 0:50:17]: Um, as you heard from our city manager, he has been brought up to par on to what the plans are. We have this in place and I don't think this is the proper time to keep kicking the can down the road. I think that it's time for us to start some of the groundwork. [0:50:18, 0:50:38]: On what we're trying to do for this development. And if you haven't heard, then I'm here to let you know that in the past, and some this is something I'm really, really proud of. In the past, you would ask young adults, those who are just graduating from high school, if they wanted to come back and live and [0:50:38, 0:50:46]: Stockbridge? And the answer was no. They're going off and they're moving to another city, they're moving to another state, but they weren't coming back home. [0:50:46, 0:50:49]: I'm proud to say that we were at a dinner. [0:50:49, 0:51:09]: Um one night and we had a young urban professional and we've had some other young urban professionals who are saying Stockbridge is the place to be. They're moving and shaking and they want to come home. But they also we also have to provide that home type of environment that they're looking for. And that environment is the live, work and play environment. [0:51:09, 0:51:29]: That we plan on providing. That includes the restrictions that Mr. Anderson just provided to us. And those restrictions, minus the convenience store. And the reason why I say minus a convenience store, I've been down to Trilleth and Avalon and different places where you go when you live in that environment. [0:51:29, 0:51:49]: You need a a store to go to, right? If if I'm living across the street and I just happen to, you know, need a first aid kit, or I just happen to want something to drink, um, uh Coke or whatever, and there's a store within my my community, then I want to be able to go. [0:51:49, 0:52:04]: go walk right there and get it. So I don't want to eliminate the ability to have a convenience store, ice cream store shops and and or not even a an hair salon within [0:52:04, 0:52:24]: a community, a spa, right? You don't want you you don't want to make it so restrictive, but you want to make rules and regulations by it. So a specific, you know, they'll have to come to us and ask permission and we can add on different conditions as as we see fit, as we deem fit, the way it should look. [0:52:24, 0:52:44]: Look, right? Those type of restrictions. However, in addition to that, um we mentioned vape shops and hookah shop. I don't know if we're saying shops or bars, but what I can let you know is is that I I'm not for hookahs, let me just say that. But people in in [0:52:44, 0:53:04]: In those type of environments, in the club environment, if there's a cigar bar or lounge within that environment, depending and making it as nice and as strict as possible as far as ambiance is concerned, those type of things should be allowed in our downtown area because that district has an open container district. [0:53:04, 0:53:24]: It is kind of it it will be an entertainment district. And I need us to kind of open our eyes and broaden our thought process on having young urban professionals in our downtown because we don't want our community to die out. We don't want it to be a place where, you know [0:53:24, 0:53:44]: No one wants to thrive and and and live and survive. And we're making it that. And there are so many young people now that are looking, young families who are just getting married in their early 20s, 30s are saying they want to make Stockbridge home. And these are the type of environments that they want to make it in. [0:53:44, 0:54:04]: So I'm not in favor of prolonging this. I am in favor of getting it done. We have seen this before. We've seen it numerous amounts of times, and I'm ready to vote tonight. Yes. Mr. Alexander, go ahead, please. Thank you so much. Uh the downtown vision is really brilliant and it is [0:54:04, 0:54:24]: A focus of this council and has been for the entire period that I was on here. Downtown literally died a slow death. And to see what we saw over the weekend, oh my God, to see downtown crowded with people out in the street, sitting outside, the pizza bar. [0:54:24, 0:54:36]: are overflowing with customers. Frozen Smoke got customers. The downtown social got customers. Showtime got customers. That hasn't happened. What we're doing is working, is showing the right course. [0:54:37, 0:54:57]: And I will stand on this amphitheater because it's driving what we're doing. As Ms. Gann has indicated, we're building an entertainment district. That's something that Henry County hasn't had before, where our young urban professionals and even senior citizens can enjoy nice music. Well, we had a tiny tent on [0:54:57, 0:54:59]: Friday and we had [0:54:59, 0:55:19]: People is sitting out there enjoying. It was a diverse mix of people sitting out enjoying our downtown. We haven't had that in years. We're on the right course. Doing and I cannot thank the proprietor of 114 Martin Luther King Senior Heritage enough and 118, which is frozen smoke. [0:55:19, 0:55:39]: Mr. Sylvan deserves a tremendous amount of credit for believing in where we're going in downtown Stockbridge. He owns both of those buildings. Now the 114 was a dilapidated mess about 18 months ago. Now it is a beautiful facility with Crown Pizza Bar in it. [0:55:39, 0:55:59]: It is outstanding and it is drawing. It is drawing as the central gathering space that we've always wanted. And as we look at the LCI across the street having the mixed use development, we've seen it. We see it every day when I drive down to Argento to Costco, when I drive down to [0:55:59, 0:56:19]: Sprouts farmers market. Those areas are thriving. You got people out there walking. You got people out there enjoying the entire event. And I'm not going to sit over here with my senior citizen self and tell young people what they don't want. And it might not be for me. I might not enjoy hookah, but somebody might like it. Somebody might like a nice [0:56:19, 0:56:39]: Cigar. That's what we do in entertainment districts. It's not for me, but it's not for me to be the person to say, oh, we're not gonna do this. We did studies. And we did, and we collected the information. We had charrettes on downtown to ask people what they wanted to see. They told us what they wanted to see. It came directly from [0:56:39, 0:56:59]: For the public, and it was put into the ULDC and the downtown village program. I don't want to get into this phase, and I hate the word, and I with all due respect, Ms. Moratoriums. I don't like that phase because we're in a position where we're in a growth phase. What we did as a city, we chose to go down the avenue of [0:56:59, 0:57:19]: Distance requirement. There's a nail shop over here, right? At the in the Food Depot Plaza. There can't be another one within a mile. It's already restricted, right? There's a barber shop right across the street. It needs to be another mile. There's one over here in the Shur and Wizard Plaza. So there can't be another one. So the distance requirement and [0:57:18, 0:57:25]: the measures are working already and as Miss Gann indicated to be overly cumbersome. [0:57:25, 0:57:45]: Sometimes business is about the math and it's about the art and the science. You don't want to put the artists in a box because you don't never know what portrait they might be painting. So anytime someone's doing a project for me and it's involving culture or art, I always like, I don't want to be too specific because I don't want to [0:57:45, 0:58:05]: kill the creativity because I will kill the creativity if I'm trying to put a square uh a round hole in a square pay in a square square box. It's not going to work. But what I'm do what I wanted to do is to we we went up to Avalon to look at what they did in Avalon. We went to the truest mixed use development. [0:58:05, 0:58:25]: Over in Cobb County. We went over to Fayetteville to see what they were doing. We wanted to see, not to see, not to copy what they were doing, but to see best in class development. We've seen that best-in-class development thrive in every area. And let me say this and let me be very clear. [0:58:25, 0:58:45]: Clear as the downtown development authority member. All of us up here have said one thing very clear. This downtown belongs to all of us. And our best interest is no city thrives without a developing downtown. And certainly, and I'm going to say this, and I and I want to say this the right way. Okay, by investing and [0:58:45, 0:58:50]: having the private sector come in, our downtown is moving forward. [0:58:50, 0:59:03]: With all due respect to my colleague, Miss Barber, she voted against every piece of measure that we move forward with up here in the downtown area. 114 would still be a city property because she did not support it. [0:59:03, 0:59:23]: These areas are more deeply than what we're doing here at City Council. They're much deeper than that. It's about the entire area and providing a gathering space. And if we got to be in a position where we're taking the vision and the direction of the community who has told us. [0:59:23, 0:59:43]: What they wanted, not our opinion, their opinions or what they wanted to see to be able to move forward with this. I'm not gonna sit up here and try to say this is what I wanna do. I wanna do what you want me to do. And be doing what you want me to do, we listen to those and gather the information that was necessary to make these projects happen. [0:59:43, 1:00:03]: It would be a transformative project if that three acres was approved and used as mixed use. We've already seen it. It's thriving over there at the bridges at Jodico in Argento. It's kicking off in the Levi that's over there in that area. People are thriving to it. Young people are coming to it. [1:00:03, 1:00:20]: Seniors well appointed or like to see it and like to be able to walk to everything. We're building the vision that you have asked us to do right here in the city. We don't want to turn it around. The property over there, Mr. Anderson, behind the subway and all of that, we voted on that. [1:00:21, 1:00:21]: Right. [1:00:22, 1:00:23]: We did. Mm-hmm. [1:00:23, 1:00:40]: We brought it on a town home community, single family, and already approved it yet on that fifteenth anchor. We're not about to rewrite what we've already done. The program has already been done and the people out there in the in the main street just told us at the last meeting. [1:00:40, 1:01:00]: They're looking for somebody to take some action. They're tired of us talking and kicking the can down the road. They want to see something happen. We hired this seasoned city manager, Mr. Edmondson, to guide us as a former Main Street person to be able to come in and develop this downtown, and that's what I'm committed to doing. Thank you. [1:01:00, 1:01:10]: Therefore. Okay. If I may. Yeah, go ahead please. Okay. I wanted to respond to a couple of comments that Councilman Alexander mentioned. [1:01:11, 1:01:16]: I don't recall opposing any developments in our downtown, however. [1:01:16, 1:01:27]: I have had strong um concerns and resistance to selling our city owned real estate properties without advertising them. I have strong [1:01:28, 1:01:31]: Opposition to selling. [1:01:31, 1:01:34]: city owned real estate properties without [1:01:34, 1:01:36]: getting them appraised. [1:01:37, 1:01:43]: I have concerns that city owned real estate properties were sold below the tax assessed values. [1:01:44, 1:01:45]: Those have been my concerns. [1:01:47, 1:01:51]: When he spoke about the vizits to Avalon. [1:01:51, 1:01:53]: I wasn't on the council. [1:01:53, 1:01:56]: When he mentioned about the council going to Trilliph. [1:01:56, 1:01:58]: I wasn't on the council. [1:01:58, 1:02:01]: So all of those visits and research that they may have done. [1:02:02, 1:02:03]: was prior to me. [1:02:03, 1:02:07]: I didn't get any I didn't get an opportunity to add any input. [1:02:07, 1:02:10]: Into whatever their vision was. [1:02:11, 1:02:15]: Twenty thirteen, whatever the vision was, I wasn't on the council. [1:02:15, 1:02:17]: I don't support crowding. [1:02:17, 1:02:20]: This three acre lot across the street from City Hall. [1:02:21, 1:02:23]: It should remain green space. [1:02:23, 1:02:26]: If you want to develop a mixed use development [1:02:27, 1:02:30]: We have fifteen the city owns fifteen acres. [1:02:30, 1:02:32]: Behind Sherman Williams. [1:02:33, 1:02:36]: All of these properties are within the city council district that I represent. [1:02:37, 1:02:39]: So everybody seems to have a whole lot of [1:02:39, 1:02:42]: um interests in my district and rightfully so. [1:02:43, 1:02:43]: I get it. [1:02:44, 1:02:45]: Rightfully so. [1:02:46, 1:02:47]: But I want us to plan it. [1:02:48, 1:02:49]: The right way. [1:02:50, 1:02:57]: If there were plans or the vision from 2013, it would have included the Rock Quarry Road extension. [1:02:58, 1:03:00]: The Rock Quarry Road extension would go from [1:03:01, 1:03:08]: the Sherwin Williams Plaza, all the way down to Old Conyers Road, where the Publix is, on East Atlanta Road. [1:03:08, 1:03:13]: But yet that project has been put on hold. It's not even on a priority list. [1:03:14, 1:03:22]: So when you talk about a vision and moving forward with the plans, move forward with all of the plans, not just half of it. [1:03:22, 1:03:25]: Infrastructure should be important. [1:03:26, 1:03:32]: Especially in this downtown area in which we all support a live work and play environment. [1:03:33, 1:03:36]: If you're going to build in a downtown area. [1:03:36, 1:03:40]: Invest more in more robes. [1:03:40, 1:03:43]: Not just maintaining what we currently have. [1:03:43, 1:03:56]: That seems to be the pattern here. Just maintaining the roads, repaving, resurfacing, fixing the sidewalks. No, we need new roads. This council has approved nine [1:03:56, 1:04:00]: Nine townhome developments in my district. [1:04:01, 1:04:05]: I I abstained from the votes on all of them. [1:04:05, 1:04:06]: Nine. [1:04:07, 1:04:08]: have been approved. [1:04:08, 1:04:11]: And they want to add this mixed use development. [1:04:11, 1:04:14]: Squeeze it on a three acre lot. [1:04:15, 1:04:16]: It doesn't make sense to me. [1:04:17, 1:04:24]: I'm the only one who is asking us to pause. Let's look at this again. [1:04:24, 1:04:34]: Let's rethink how we are moving forward with I don't know whose vision this is, but let's think about how we're moving forward with um realizing [1:04:35, 1:04:37]: A planned vision for our downtown. [1:04:38, 1:04:40]: That's what I'm asking for in the district. [1:04:40, 1:04:41]: That I represent. [1:04:42, 1:04:43]: In the district. [1:04:43, 1:04:46]: That the residents elected me to represent. [1:04:47, 1:04:48]: The business owners [1:04:48, 1:05:01]: They they want to make sure that they have um access to all uh potential clients coming in. They want to make sure that there's parking, adequate sidewalks. [1:05:01, 1:05:07]: All of that and we make we need to make sure that we have the infrastructure in place for it all. [1:05:08, 1:05:09]: I wanna see. [1:05:10, 1:05:11]: This council [1:05:11, 1:05:14]: prioritizing infrastructure. [1:05:15, 1:05:22]: New infrastructure, not just maintaining what we currently have, as it pertains to convenience stores. [1:05:23, 1:05:23]: Right here. [1:05:24, 1:05:25]: on Rockware Road. [1:05:26, 1:05:28]: There are two convenience stores right on the corner. [1:05:29, 1:05:31]: Right on the corner of Rock Quarry in North Henry. [1:05:32, 1:05:33]: In fact it's [1:05:34, 1:05:36]: One of them, the happy market. [1:05:36, 1:05:42]: It's right next to the fifteen acres that the city owns. There's a new one. There's a new one right across the street from it. [1:05:44, 1:05:45]: So from here [1:05:45, 1:05:51]: To right here at the corner of North Henry Rock Quarry Road, two convenience stores. Not to mention [1:05:52, 1:05:53]: There's also a c a food mark [1:05:54, 1:05:55]: Right down the street. [1:05:56, 1:05:57]: On East Atlanta Road. [1:05:57, 1:06:04]: across from Gardner Park. So there's no shortage of convenience stores. I know my district very well. [1:06:05, 1:06:06]: We don't need another convenience door here. [1:06:08, 1:06:15]: So that is why I'm saying we need to rethink these plans because whatever this vision is. [1:06:15, 1:06:19]: As far as their vision for live, work and play. [1:06:19, 1:06:20]: It's not the same as mine. [1:06:21, 1:06:26]: Cause having a another convenience store in the downtown does not do anything. [1:06:26, 1:06:33]: to help with a live work and play environment when there's already three that are within two miles from each other. [1:06:34, 1:06:40]: I don't support it, not at this time. What I'm asking my councilmates to do, considering this is my district. [1:06:41, 1:06:50]: I'm asking them to allow us to have more robust discussions during our retreat in September. It's interesting that this would come forward. [1:06:50, 1:06:54]: One week after we have a нюменню ситі менеджер да старс. [1:06:54, 1:06:58]: He hasn't had the time to really delve into the details of any of this. [1:06:59, 1:07:00]: He hasn't. [1:07:00, 1:07:01]: So [1:07:01, 1:07:03]: I think that's all the comments that I have. [1:07:04, 1:07:06]: Um everything that I've said [1:07:06, 1:07:08]: Um Madam Clark. [1:07:08, 1:07:09]: It's all for the record. [1:07:10, 1:07:10]: Thank you. [1:07:11, 1:07:12]: Mr. Barrett, please. [1:07:13, 1:07:17]: Yeah, thanks mayor. I I think it's really important for us to kinda [1:07:17, 1:07:23]: take a step back and pause because I've I've kind of been on the council the least amount of time, only a year. [1:07:23, 1:07:29]: And some of the things that we have had at a lot of our retreats have been centered around the downtown development. [1:07:30, 1:07:50]: And we've seen uh plans and we've seen a whole lot of different uh ideas about what we should and what we shouldn't do in the downtown area. And I think one thing um that resounds out of each and every one of those times that we've met is that the downtown district has has been overlooked in the city of Stockbridge for a long time. [1:07:50, 1:08:07]: Long, long, long time. Uh when you poll people when you talk to the residents, the one thing that makes Stockbridge look different than the other cities in Henry County is that it's void of a downtown area that that has the culture and the character of the city. [1:08:08, 1:08:28]: And so Stockbridge being as historically significant as it is in Henry County, we need that central gathering place. Every city needs that benchmark central gathering space that people, the community comes together and galvanizes at that place. I think what everybody's saying is true. [1:08:28, 1:08:28]: [4109.0, 4119.2]: That yes, we need the development, yes, we need the mixed use, yes, we need something that's little work and play, but we also need the green space. And we also need and so they're not mutually exclusive. [1:08:40, 1:09:00]: You can have them all. I d I I don't I don't understand why we we make it as if it's either or. We can have every single one of the things that that all parties are are asking for and coming to the table to really make it the best downtown area that we can have, but there has to be a strategy about doing it. And so I I I think we got to get people. [1:08:59, 1:09:13]: past uh the positions and the points and and just opposing and trying to make, you know, the points and and listen and and hear all the contents that's being said, mix it all in a pot and make gumbo out of it. [1:09:13, 1:09:18]: and and and get the type of downtown area that everybody can have a piece of it. [1:09:19, 1:09:39]: Every piece of the culture can have a piece of it. And and when we can do that work, when we can get be beyond our own egos and our own pride and our own this is my idea and this and this and that, we can serve the people and give the people what they need. Which is a that's that's for me and my passion, that's one thing that I know when I drive down [1:09:39, 1:09:43]: down one hundred eight when I drive down this road. Where where is my downtown? [1:09:43, 1:09:53]: Where where where is that that that beacon of light that that makes hey that I'm in Stockbridge? You know when you hit that spot that I'm in Stockbridge, we need it. [1:09:54, 1:10:10]: We we we owe it to ourselves, we owe it to this council to collaborate, to communicate, to put all the ideas together and foster a sense of community that'll make everybody proud of what we have accomplished. [1:10:11, 1:10:31]: That's what this needs to be. And we don't need to be pressing pause. We need to do it quickly. That's right. Because it's been taking I've been here a year and a half and I've been waiting to see it. And it's taken too long. I don't want to have another meeting. I don't want to have another set of drawings. I don't want to see another plan. I want us to incorporate the things that she said. I want to incorporate [1:10:31, 1:10:40]: The things that they have said, and I want to put it all together and I want to see some dirt move. I am so tired of talking, and it's time for some action. [1:10:41, 1:10:50]: Please, let's let's take all of these great ideas and put'em in a cornucopia and make us a nice meal out of it and have the best downtown in the in in the south. [1:10:52, 1:10:52]: Major. [1:10:52, 1:10:53]: That's that's it. [1:10:55, 1:11:11]: One second. Okay, Miss Cant, go ahead, please. Well, um I just wanted to reiterate that and I agree with Councilman Bear. I used to always say that, um, Councilman Berry, I want to see some dirt moving. I need to see something. Let's get it moving and shaking. And um [1:11:11, 1:11:12]: I agree. [1:11:12, 1:11:13]: Um [1:11:14, 1:11:31]: We do have a plan with infrastructure. We've implemented some of those plans already. And we also have a master trail plan that actually starts in our downtown area. Um so we have a sidewalk plan, we have funding that we have implemented towards that, and we have other things. [1:11:32, 1:11:41]: you know, in the making, but it's time to get started now. Now I just want everyone to know that this just we're putting things in play [1:11:42, 1:12:02]: But that doesn't mean that we're still not w we would still be in negotiations and we would still be talking to whomever the developer would be or whatever the case may be in regards to what a building would look like and what businesses would go there. This is n this is just us saying, these are the things that we don't want in our downtown area. [1:12:02, 1:12:12]: This helps us from the ground zero surfacing part, has nothing to do with the building or anything else. I think we've gotten ahead of ourselves. [1:12:13, 1:12:31]: I wanna thank our staff. Um, I wanna thank you, Mr. Anderson, you and your team, your planning, your uh your whole team for providing us with the tools necessary to get started, to at least lay the groundwork and limit some of the things that need that we need to limit. [1:12:31, 1:12:51]: So that we can go ahead and start implementing plans and we can talk about any of those plans during the retreat. But right now, this is this is just legwork on saying what businesses can and cannot come in our downtown right now. And I am all for it if it's getting us from point A to point A and a half. But I I just need us to go. [1:12:51, 1:13:11]: To get those steps, and this is a baby step compared to some of the other things that we need to do. Um, in regards to green space, it's been again the LCI plans out for that, the RSVP plans out for that. Believe it or not, folks, some of you may or may not know this, but we have community involvement all the time. [1:13:11, 1:13:31]: We don't just sit here and make these decisions. We paid a lot of money for studies in the past. And those studies have been done in churches. Those studies have been done in our community center. Those studies have been done down at our Merrymanders. We've asked people for their input. We've asked the community for their input. We've asked organizations. We've asked commun for [1:13:31, 1:13:41]: and committees. And I'm one hundred percent with you, Councilman Berry. It's time to move the dirt. It's time to get things started. And we are ready to get started. [1:13:43, 1:14:03]: I just wanna say one thing. I just wanna uh I Miss Gantt uh kudos and thank you a round of applause'cause I I wanna see something happen, Councilman Berry so bad I don't know what to do. Every time I go to the D D A meeting I'm getting beat up. They're saying Mel m Miss Alexander, when are we gonna do something? When are we gonna do something? I go to the main street, when are we gonna do something? When are we gonna do something? [1:14:03, 1:14:03]: Yeah. [1:14:04, 1:14:23]: But I'll tell you what we did do, we spent millions of dollars on stormwater infrastructure in the amphitheater. People talk about the project, the building itself, but there's three stormwater facilities built for the expansion of downtown in the amphitheater project. So stormwater has already been taken into consideration. [1:14:24, 1:14:44]: Did you notice the three million dollars that we spent around City Hall? Did you notice the new, not just Turn Lane, the lane that extends from North Henry Boulevard all the way down to Bryant Street? That pi uh for years there was a bottleneck there where people wanted to turn right where they had to wait for [1:14:44, 1:15:04]: You know, mi uh 30 minutes to turn on a bit at a busy time or during a city event. The infrastructure is all of these street lights that you see around here and the storm water and the facilities have been added. And Mr. Edmondson has been charged with moving the downtown alleyway project forward. [1:15:04, 1:15:12]: And bringing that information back to us so we can move some dirt. And kudos, Mr. Berry. You've said it all. I don't need to say another word. Thank you. [1:15:13, 1:15:13]: Mm-hmm. [1:15:15, 1:15:27]: Make this a last comment, please, so we can move on. I'm sorry. Make we'll make this a last comment so we can move on. Okay. Go ahead. No, I wanted to ask, um, your list uh prohibited uses in the D T V [1:15:29, 1:15:35]: Um if the council is amenable to adding the additional uses that I listed. [1:15:37, 1:15:41]: And also adding as a condition of this as well. [1:15:43, 1:15:47]: Um adding the extension, the Rod Quarry Road extension. [1:15:47, 1:15:50]: to our current pro um priority list. [1:15:50, 1:15:52]: I want to see that moved forward. [1:15:52, 1:16:02]: Otherwise can't realize the true value and potentials of our downtown. I don't want us to just keep building on top of buildings and we're all just [1:16:03, 1:16:04]: Everything is just [1:16:04, 1:16:08]: Concentrated to one area. [1:16:09, 1:16:12]: Our downtown, if you're looking at the map, is expanded. [1:16:12, 1:16:13]: Beyond [1:16:14, 1:16:18]: Честі в амфатер із вифтині екс. [1:16:19, 1:16:21]: Down further where Gardner Park. [1:16:22, 1:16:33]: There's a whole lot more areas that we need to make sure that we are developing, not just the area that is central to City Hall and the Zampitheater. [1:16:35, 1:16:55]: That's all. But I want us to include all of the um uses that I mentioned to your list of prohibited uses out of this D T V overlay. So you want to add those that need to be that's a one second. You want me to list the other thing. Yes, if I may. All right. So she's making a motion for that. [1:16:54, 1:17:14]: hearing um i'm sorry after public hearing because i know i still got to do that but uh um uh mayor the the intent of of the of this um text amendment was was basically just to line up our udc our zoning ordinance with our studies that we currently have on the record so we got all these studies making [1:17:14, 1:17:34]: recommendations on different things we should do that we paid for in the past in the downtown area, but they can't be done because they conflict with the unified development code. So most of that stuff is outside of my jurisdiction as falls under economic development. So I'm just trying to line it up so they can do their job. Okay. This is a second reading. Is it I forgot, is there a third reading we need on this? Uh no, sir. [1:17:34, 1:17:54]: Okay, so otherwise the intent is after the second reading of public comments for us to vote one one way vote anyway. Yes, sir. Okay, all right, all right, good deal. All right, so if I may, I just we just want to reiterate this is being more restrictive in regards to special uses. And these items that we're talking about is actually allowing that any and everything can't be down there without [1:17:54, 1:18:14]: Going through you all to get a special use permit. So it's not open it up to any and everything, it's actually being a little bit more restrictive because things that typically wouldn't require a special use permit now is going to require a special use permit. And those are the gas stations, the automotive repair shops, car washes, convenience stores, and other associated uses. So they're going to require [1:18:14, 1:18:34]: To come to y'all for a special use. Cause right now, without us passing this ordinance, they can go tomorrow and get a license, there's nothing we can do about it. So it's actually being more restrictive. Correct. If I may, to add that in there, just to clarify. But I wanted to include some additional uses to that list of restrictions. Additional restrictive uses. [1:18:34, 1:18:37]: Is that what you're saying? Correct. On a prohibited list? [1:18:38, 1:18:58]: Uh well let's make it clear. I don't support the support with the public hearing and then we can come back and continue our discussion. And so you're saying you're trying to add to this list, ma'am, if we understand you correctly, and what was that what you were trying to say I wanted to convenience stores. This only So okay, so they will have to come get a special use permit right now if we pass this ordinance. [1:18:58, 1:19:02]: They can't get it on their own right now. They will have to come before y'all to get it. [1:19:02, 1:19:05]: I don't want them to be able to come and [1:19:05, 1:19:09]: I don't want them to have the ability to come before the council. [1:19:09, 1:19:16]: And request a special use permit. I want the distance requirement that we already have in place. [1:19:17, 1:19:28]: Right. So so for clarity, just just so you're aware, even if something is on the prohibited list, they have a the option to come before y'all anyway and request it. [1:19:28, 1:19:35]: Just because they're not on this list don't mean they can never come before this body to re request a conditional use or a special use outside of what's prohibited. [1:19:36, 1:19:38]: They always can come before the body and acts. [1:19:38, 1:19:47]: Okay, so what is the purpose of this list then? So anyone that wants to run a adult entertainment establishment, they can come before the council and ask for a special use permit? [1:19:47, 1:20:07]: They can. They don't mean it's gonna get approved, but this is right here so that day-to-day operations that we understand that these things are prohibited and therefore it flags them a process to go before a board, get the recommendation of a board, then come get staff recommendation, then ultimately come before you all to make a final decision. Well, I wanna add to this list of day-to-day operations. [1:20:07, 1:20:10]: To include convenience stores, include [1:20:11, 1:20:17]: Um nail shops, barber shops, hair salons, vate shops, storage facilities. [1:20:17, 1:20:18]: And [1:20:19, 1:20:39]: Yeah, all of those. But we'll get back to that. I want us to move forward with the public hearing and then at the end when the council will voice. And we will ask and that would be the motion. So yes, uh they already jotted it down. So what'll happen is after the public hearing it comes back and then we vote on that, then we'll make the motion with those things and then council could vote on it uh as is or with [1:20:39, 1:20:41]: With those added items. Thank you, sir. Yes, ma'am. [1:20:42, 1:20:55]: Okay, on that note, then I guess we open the public hearing. So uh anybody on in public well once again, we're in a public hearing. So anybody on the on the left side if you have any comments for what has been stated already. Comments for anybody on my left side? [1:20:56, 1:21:14]: Anybody in the middle wants to make any comments? Four. Four. Okay, come on. Why don't you line up on this side, ma'am? Just looks come on. Just line up, stand right there. Anybody on my far right, the comments four. What's been already stated thus far. Okay, come back over here. Anyone else? All right, these are four. Four. [1:21:15, 1:21:23]: Okay. Anybody else? All right. So right now it's looks like three individuals four. Come to your what's good a mic, please. Name and address. [1:21:24, 1:21:25]: And make your comments. [1:21:27, 1:21:47]: Hello, my name is Karina uh Singh. I live in one one three seven Hempel Road. Um I actually work for the city of Morrow, y'all's neighbors. So I think I have an interesting take on I guess this whole thing. Um with us, we're also trying to I guess make our downtown [1:21:47, 1:21:56]: More mixed use and uh trying to attract obviously young people into our city, and I live here so. [1:21:56, 1:22:11]: I'm a young professional. I just graduated college and I think it'd be really nice to have, you know, like bar spaces. Like I don't wanna drive all the way to like Duluth to go get drunk at a bar. And obviously I'm not, you know, going to get drunk at a bar, but [1:22:12, 1:22:15]: You know, like it's nice. Like I'm twenty two, I don't wanna be [1:22:17, 1:22:23]: all the way up there or like all the way in Fayetteville, like it'd be nice to have some spaces for young people. So [1:22:23, 1:22:29]: Stand by. Did you get her f n name? I didn't think you get her name. Which uh she needs your name, please. Yeah. Uh [1:22:29, 1:22:31]: Uh do you want me to write it? [1:22:32, 1:22:38]: You wanna write it down? You need to put it in the mic. Okay, fine, okay. All right. Next please. [1:22:41, 1:22:42]: Name and address. [1:22:45, 1:22:50]: Hello, Mayor and Council members. Thank you for allowing me the opportunity to speak. [1:22:51, 1:22:58]: Um, I would like to say that as a citizen of the downtown area since nineteen ninety one. [1:22:59, 1:23:01]: We do need improvement. [1:23:01, 1:23:02]: We do. [1:23:02, 1:23:03]: However [1:23:04, 1:23:06]: I think we should be very cautionary. [1:23:07, 1:23:08]: about the way we move forward. [1:23:09, 1:23:14]: Because in my personal citizen voter view here. [1:23:15, 1:23:21]: It seems to me like we are just ramming things through in the downtown district like [1:23:21, 1:23:22]: Townhouses. [1:23:22, 1:23:24]: Apartments. [1:23:24, 1:23:27]: There are two smoke shops within two blocks right here. [1:23:28, 1:23:31]: There are one, two, three, five. [1:23:32, 1:23:36]: four, five convenience stores within one mile radius. [1:23:38, 1:23:41]: There are gas stations. [1:23:41, 1:23:45]: Out the kazoo. Tire stations. [1:23:46, 1:23:59]: Much of that looks like eyesores. And one of the newest smoke shops shops I was excited when I saw Food Mart. I thought, oh Food Mart. When I got past the the red light, it said smoke shop. [1:23:59, 1:24:09]: Food mark and s food mart and smoke shop. You know, really, really, that that's that's not a good look. It really is not a good look. [1:24:10, 1:24:30]: And I would like to ask you all to combine your ideas. You have common ground. You all have good ideas. There's nothing wrong with anything that anyone says. The conservative that wants to keep everything the same, the liberal that wants to change everything. Everybody is equally important. That's what our foundation of our [1:24:30, 1:24:32]: републік вас фоуд он. [1:24:33, 1:24:34]: Come together. [1:24:36, 1:24:37]: Get it together. [1:24:38, 1:24:40]: And I will remind you respectfully. [1:24:41, 1:25:00]: As a voter and as a citizen, you were elected to represent the will of the people. And I don't hear from a lot of people here at the city council uh coming from the downtown district. And I am speaking up on behalf of a lot of people who I am surprised that don't even know what is going on. [1:25:01, 1:25:03]: Because they are just not involved. [1:25:04, 1:25:05]: Unfortunately. [1:25:05, 1:25:06]: However [1:25:07, 1:25:08]: I respect every one of you. [1:25:09, 1:25:14]: But with due respect, you work for us, not the other way around. [1:25:16, 1:25:16]: Thank you. [1:25:18, 1:25:21]: Okay, uh next uh in in citizen name and address please. [1:25:22, 1:25:42]: Good afternoon good evening, Mayor and Council. My name is Jaden Williams, 151 Misty Ridge Trail. I'm actually the chair of your planning commission. Um, and so I work very well with Ryan and his staff in the community development. So I wanted to first uh echo the sentiments of Councilman Berry because we do have um the text amendment that's before you all, that's kind of strategic, and they worked very well in making sure that they brought that before you in a strategic. [1:25:42, 1:26:02]: Manager to make sure our city is moving towards progress. But one of the major things is also what Councilwoman Gantt said is that this is just a minor step for the major plan. And so I would also just echo the sentiments of some of our citizens that if we're going to bring these plans to the city, especially in the small acres that we have, it's just three. It's not much, but it's something that [1:26:02, 1:26:22]: That we can build a stockbridge-driven downtown, that you all come together and make sure that we can actually bring some quality and not just look at the young professionals because yes, I'm young, uh just like one of our other residents. I came back home. This is home for me. I've been here all my life. Um, I want to make sure that we also are making sure we're making young professionals involved, getting them involved, but also our current residents. [1:26:22, 1:26:31]: residents. So let's not leave them out of that plan. But I'm a thousand percent uh in agreance with this text amendment. I hope you all can vote on it this evening because the staff did an awesome job on it. Thank you. [1:26:31, 1:26:42]: All right. All right. That was four. Okay. Questions and any comments from our far left against, against anything that was been speaking this evening? Against. [1:26:42, 1:26:44]: In the middle, against [1:26:45, 1:26:52]: My far right. Anything against? All right, so we'll close that no comments, we'll close that out. So I guess uh Ryan, come back please. [1:26:52, 1:27:07]: All right, so now uh we got a um we got a um potential mo motion or uh uh amendment to the motion or addition to the m addition to what you presented, I'm sorry. So we need a we need a motion uh and we'll take it from that point. [1:27:08, 1:27:11]: So is there a motion? Yeah. Yes, sir. [1:27:13, 1:27:23]: This what I wanted to do was to go ahead and make a motion to accept the staff's recommendation. Okay. And Mr. Medmuson, will you come back to the podium? [1:27:24, 1:27:44]: Okay. And certainly you have made a strong case that and let me say this again. I don't know how we got on this that we support convenience stores. That's not what we're trying to do up here. Certainly it's not what we want to do. And and let me say this, I had that same question and I still have that same question about the Henry Mart that added the [1:27:44, 1:27:54]: the smoke shop on there'cause I see that the other day.'Cause that's not supposed to be allowed under the PMU. No vape in smoke shops are supposed to be allowed under PMU on the p on the corridor, you know. [1:27:55, 1:28:06]: Council Member, that's not uh it's not a smoke shop per se. It's a convenience store that sells tobacco products. And that's I know, but that's not but that very name indicates that like they sell vape. [1:28:06, 1:28:26]: Or not because again that name i again indicates that they fall under that category which is we have a prohibition on that along major highways. I saw that myself and I said, I don't know how they got away with that because that should not have been allowed. We might need to make them change the name because in essence that is that is [1:28:26, 1:28:46]: Yes, uh that's correct. Um we'll talk to them about changing the sign, but it's you can't go in there and smoke, you just can go in there and buy tobacco products and that's not restricted by code. Right. So if you would have that discussion with them. And uh plus we're working on legislation. I know I we keep coming up with all these legislation, but we're working on legislation. [1:28:46, 1:29:06]: To address that. Absolutely, because certainly that's one thing that I championed to keep them off of those corridors to make sure we were doing that. But this is absolutely appropriate to make sure that these uses come to us. But I don't support being restrictive in terms of the cigar bar and the and the other uses because in the hoop. [1:29:06, 1:29:26]: And all that because even though I want to enjoy it, the young people do like that. And I I don't want to restrict it and be overly restrictive with those types of measures in order to do that. So I'm uh my first inclination is to be able to say the same thing in terms of moving forward with the staff recommendations. [1:29:26, 1:29:33]: And then say nobody up here is trying to remove convenience stores, but the convenience store would have to come to us. [1:29:34, 1:29:46]: to get a special use permit if they wanted to operate under this y it's actually strengthening it to bring the convenience store to us so that no more convenience stores just pop up without coming to us, right? [1:29:46, 1:29:47]: Right. [1:29:47, 1:29:56]: Exactly. And I mentioned the moratorium because there are sometimes where there is gap in legislation where we have some fall through the crack. And if you start seeing that, [1:29:56, 1:30:16]: And trying to get everything caught up to where it's supposed to be, you have that option. I was just putting that out there in the event that some do slip through, because I understand it's a sweet spot as you start uh modifying your legislation. There's instances where things can like that can happen. You look up, you have three before you even voted on it, and you're like, wow, when that happened, because they understand that it's on the agenda, so people [1:30:16, 1:30:25]: Start moving fast. Right. So right now, basically, once we vote on this and pass this, tomorrow the convenience store has to come to us, right? [1:30:25, 1:30:45]: Yes, sir. So w that the in essence delaying this would actually open it up. We probably would need a moratorium if we delayed. But if we went ahead and passed it tonight, then before anybody else would be able to bring a convenience store, a vape store, anything else, they would come to us. And guess what we're gonna do? We're gonna say no, you can't do that. [1:30:45, 1:31:05]: To do on my behalf. So I want to make a motion so that we can go ahead and move forward with this because I don't support those other restrictions. And then kind of to keep it clean, if we want to bring back at a separate opportunity to discuss some additional uh restrictions, we certainly can do that at a later date. [1:31:05, 1:31:16]: to talk about that in detail, but this needs to be done now so a convenience store does not come to us tomorrow. But I don't want to restrict the entertainment district. That would be my current motion. [1:31:16, 1:31:17]: Mayor Ford. [1:31:18, 1:31:19]: Yes. [1:31:19, 1:31:19]: Um [1:31:20, 1:31:27]: May I ask Councilman Alexander as conditions to his motion because I want to approve this. This isn't in the district that I represent. [1:31:28, 1:31:31]: And this council has shown a pattern of making decisions. [1:31:32, 1:31:33]: In my district. [1:31:33, 1:31:34]: That is that. [1:31:35, 1:31:35]: My district. [1:31:36, 1:31:37]: I want to vote for it. [1:31:37, 1:31:39]: Otherwise, I'm going to oppose it. [1:31:40, 1:31:41]: We don't need another package store. [1:31:43, 1:31:48]: There's already one that was trying to come in the downtown that this council voted and approved. [1:31:49, 1:31:53]: We already have a package store up the street. We don't need another convenience store. [1:31:53, 1:31:56]: None of that is going to help people. [1:31:56, 1:32:01]: That's not gonna help attract anybody to our downtown. We have a suggestion for you, okay. [1:32:02, 1:32:05]: In order for me to vote and approve this text amendment, [1:32:06, 1:32:08]: All of the uses that I mentioned. [1:32:09, 1:32:10]: Package doors. [1:32:10, 1:32:14]: Convenience stores, nail salons, barber shops. [1:32:15, 1:32:16]: Chaos Alliance. [1:32:16, 1:32:28]: Tattoo parlance, storage facilities. I'm asking that all of those uses be included in this motion. Otherwise, I will not vote in support of this. [1:32:29, 1:32:38]: We can add those to the special use list, ma'am, with attached to that motion. So when we present the ordinance, it had those things on there f when we sign off on it. [1:32:41, 1:32:43]: And when is that going to come before the council? [1:32:44, 1:32:45]: When you gonna have that change? [1:32:45, 1:32:52]: The next meeting. So the motion, you approve the motion with those amendments on there. So when we create it for signatures, it would have that on there for the record. [1:32:53, 1:33:13]: So that's why I'm asking Councilman Alexander to include in his motion all of these uses that I just mentioned. And then I can support. Listen, the reason that I say that is those uses are already prohibited now under distance limit. They're already there. [1:33:13, 1:33:33]: You can't add another convenience store with the distance requirement. You can't add another vape store with the distance requirement. Your CNL beauty is right here, so you can't add another one in a mile. It's already in there, and then anything else that comes to us subsequently has to come to us for approval. It's already there. [1:33:32, 1:33:51]: Not something that needs to be added into this uh already. It's already there and limited to this. Now, the one that's not the storage facility, I'm o I'm I'm okay with that because that's not on the list already. We don't have anything restricted, storage limits, no distance requirements as of yet. [1:33:52, 1:33:54]: Right. [1:33:55, 1:34:00]: Is it zone for storage facilities? I don't think he's even in the zoning. Right. So he can't even do that. [1:34:02, 1:34:16]: So basically it's already covered. All everything that you just mentioned is already covered. It's just like I just you just want it your way in order to do it, but it's already covered. It well well if I may, if it's already covered, it doesn't hurt us to name it. [1:34:16, 1:34:35]: Okay. Well let's need less move. It's already covered. To name it basically kind of duplicates what we've already done. So okay, in that in that instance if that's the way we're gonna do it. I'm okay with it. But this does not include cigar bars or hookah bars or none of that. Is that correct? [1:34:36, 1:34:37]: Yeah, those gonna be special use. [1:34:38, 1:34:40]: So g so [1:34:40, 1:34:58]: They can be special use. Hookah bars and cigar cigar lounge. Correct. They can be special use. By the time we do one, that's gonna be plenty. I'm just thinking. But I just uh we don't wanna restrict in our entertainment district for something, you know, that people go to. Right. Okay. [1:34:58, 1:35:01]: So what does it look like for a motion here? What what what are we talking about? [1:35:01, 1:35:21]: I'm okay with uh going ahead since Mr. Edmundson has indicated that they're already covered, it's already in there. Basically there's no harm in adding them since we're all the the restrictions are already in place. Correct. I think that makes sense. Well we're doing it with double keel, but certainly we're doing it again. So what's that motion look like? The motion would be uh [1:35:21, 1:35:33]: to approve the staff recommendations with the additional uh language to limit the convenience stores, the storage facility, uh what was the other two? [1:35:33, 1:35:52]: Nail salon, hair salon. Nail salon, hair salon. And barbershop, which are already restricted, but we're gonna make sure that they're listed in particular that they would be in this motion to understand that they're already that they're that they're s covered and be specifically mentioned in the motion. [1:35:52, 1:36:00]: Would you like for me to list all of those uses that I mentioned? True. So that it can be included in the U.S. I wanna make sure that we w we're in agreement with all of them, yeah. [1:36:03, 1:36:10]: Please list'cause I wanna make sure I we we we not putting anything in the I think what we're saying is they're already [1:36:10, 1:36:14]: Limited. We already it already exists. We already have something in [1:36:15, 1:36:24]: Uh, we already have a policy in place that prohibits those things from being in our downtown area. And storage facilities in general. [1:36:24, 1:36:30]: aren't even zoned for the area. And I don't want us to go round and round and round. I know we've got to finish this up, but [1:36:30, 1:36:50]: It's already there. Um, we just w it won't hurt us to add them into the language here specifically as well, so that when us you know someone comes, they would have to get permission from mayor and council. Um so so be it. But so let's let's get a right motion here with everything. I can add all of those conditions. [1:36:50, 1:36:52]: List them so we understand. [1:36:53, 1:36:56]: Okay. Car repair shops. [1:36:56, 1:36:58]: Tower shops, convenience stores, [1:36:59, 1:37:00]: Nail lines. [1:37:00, 1:37:01]: Barbershops. [1:37:02, 1:37:03]: Package stores. [1:37:03, 1:37:04]: Bake sharps. [1:37:06, 1:37:13]: It's not real. Hair salons. Storage facilities. Tattoo parlors. [1:37:15, 1:37:26]: Right. Those would require special use permits. If you get storage facilities. [1:37:27, 1:37:43]: Okay. And the storage facility would be in there. All of those would be required to have special use permits, which is the language that we have in this. And those ones that are specifically mentioned are already covered, but we're gonna have it in the motion anyway. [1:37:43, 1:37:48]: Ms. Alzheimer, you're making this motion? Yes. [1:37:48, 1:37:52]: Does this also include in the motion the distance requirement? [1:37:52, 1:37:56]: The distance requirements are already will remain in place always. [1:37:57, 1:37:57]: Yes. [1:37:59, 1:38:03]: But it's already in place. Right. They were already and they were staying in place, yes. [1:38:07, 1:38:16]: Okay, Miss Okay, Ms. Addison, you made the motion. Is that correct? Yeah, second. And Ms. Camp second. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. And we'll move on. [1:38:20, 1:38:25]: Text amendment, TX uh two zero two five dash zero two citywide, second reading. [1:38:26, 1:38:46]: Council consideration of the text amendment to amend the city of Stockbridge Code of Ordinance is to create a new section to establish supplemental use standards for personal care homes for one to six unrelated one to six unrelated adults to identify zoning districts which uh where such uses are permitted by special use permit. [1:38:46, 1:39:06]: to establish compliance operational and developmental um standards to amend the home occupation section for all other purposes. Mr. Ryan please or Mr. Anderson please once again mayor this is the second reading. [1:39:06, 1:39:25]: Two weeks ago on personal care homes, um that there is a conflict between our unified development code and our city code of ordinances that we wish to resolve uh to be in line to be in compliance with state law to to be in compliance with with state law and regulations in regards to personal care homes. [1:39:26, 1:39:33]: Excuse me. So staff d um developed some regulations and standards to govern personal care homes in the city of Stockbridge. [1:39:36, 1:39:38]: Questions, Council. [1:39:38, 1:39:58]: I was I was just gonna run through the um I know for sake of time, I'm just gonna run through um uh the the the standards and requirements. Um so we're personal care are provided to you can't have no more than six non-family adults. Personal care services include but are not limited to individual assistants with or supervision self-administered [1:39:58, 1:40:18]: Medication, essential activities of daily living, such as eating, bathing, grooming, dressing, and toilet toileting. A personal care home may not provide nursing or other medical service or admit and retain residents who need continuous medical care. They must have an administrator for the household on a 24-hour basis, seven-day a week, three years. [1:40:18, 1:40:38]: 365 or 366 years a day who live on site. Um we're amending section 9.7020 of the Stockbridge Munich Code, which is part nine of part of Title IX for licensing and regulations, provide definitions for day care centers, daycare center, family daycare centers, and group home. [1:40:38, 1:40:58]: but not specifically for the personal care home. So we're adding a definition to that. We don't know if it was an oversight or not, but all rec all jurisdictions that I've ever worked in or or that know of have um allowed for um personal care homes in their jurisdiction by use of a special use permission. [1:40:58, 1:41:18]: So we're adding that to the definition. So we are defining personal care homes are different from daycare centers, family daycare centers, and group daycare homes because they may be used for adults and they are not limited to fewer than 24 hours per day. Personal care homes does not include buildings which are devoted to independent living, nor do [1:41:18, 1:41:29]: Does it include halfway houses, residential treatment facilities, nursing homes, sanitariums, hospitals, or other institutional facilities or rooming or boarding facilities that do not provide personal care? [1:41:30, 1:41:50]: So these are the districts that staff is recommended that personal care homes be allowed in with a special use permit. They cannot open up a personal care home in the city of Stockbridge without first coming before council, getting approval. Staff can't administratively approve a personal care home in the city of Stockbridge. [1:41:50, 1:41:51]: Yeah. [1:41:51, 1:41:59]: So we're recommending the R R, SR, C C R, M F R, and OI. Well, um [1:42:02, 1:42:22]: So here's the development standards. They must have one acre and they cannot be located in a subdivision. They must meet all setback requirements. It has to be a single-family freestanding structure or within a religious facility. In the city of Stockbridge, we're limiting personal care homes to six unrelated. [1:42:22, 1:42:42]: You can have one to six unrelated adults, 24 hour supervision, parking requirements, two spaces per unit, plus one ADA space per non-resident employee. No parking shall be allowed in the front yard setback. Fencing, a six-foot privacy fence shall be installed around the perimeter and on [1:42:42, 1:43:02]: On all sides of the house. Refer to section 3.213 of the Stockbridge Unified Development Code. The minimum house size must be 2,250 square feet. The exterior appearance of any residential structure for which a personal care home is approved shall be maintained as residential and no signs shall be erected on the property. [1:43:02, 1:43:11]: The structural HVAC system must be in good working condition, must be ADA compliance, must have flock cameras installed with a 360-degree coverage around the structure. [1:43:12, 1:43:32]: Uh resident capacity. Um facilities shall accommodate a minimum of one and a maximum of six. Staffing requirements, at least one administrator, on-site manager, or responsible staff member shall be on the premises twenty-four hours per day. The minimum on-site staff to resident ratio is one to two during waking hours and one to six during non-waking hours. [1:43:32, 1:43:45]: Uh curb cut access. Permitted curb cut access shall be from an arterial or major collective. Permanent curb cut may be allowed from a minor collective within a thousand feet of the property line. [1:43:46, 1:43:57]: A minimum fifty feet front building front yard setback is required if it's adjacent to a SR, C C R MFR, or RR. [1:43:59, 1:44:00]: Uh [1:44:01, 1:44:21]: Personal care home must obtain a valid business license from the City of Stockbridge Business Services Division. So we're we're making personal care homes a regulatory business in the City of Stockbridge, meaning that uh our regulatory uh services department or or staff, including Code Compliance, can pay a visit at almost any time. [1:44:21, 1:44:41]: And uh other compliance requirements. All licensed personal personal care homes shall be subject to annual inspections by the city of Stockbridge to verify their compliance with zoning, health, safety, and building codes. Once again, no commercial signings shall be permitted on the premises of a personal care home located in a residential zoning district. Uh annual compliance report. [1:44:41, 1:45:01]: Each personal care home shall submit an annual compliance report to the city. Floor plan submission. They must submit their detailed floor plan to the city, to the planning and zoning, so we'll know what it looks like inside there. Record keeping them. Personal care homes must maintain current records for all residents and staff. The records must be retained for a minimum of three years after the city. [1:45:01, 1:45:21]: The resident is discharged, transferred, or deceased in according with the Georgia Department of Community Health Regulation. Um Operation Manager, each facility must maintain and make an operational policies and procedures manner manual and have it on site and it must be updated annually. Security, they must submit. [1:45:21, 1:45:24]: to the city of Stockbridge a written security plan. [1:45:25, 1:45:45]: The plan shall include emergency response procedures, visitor access protocol, stiff response training, regular maintenance, and position of security cameras for 360-degree coverage, other additional security measures, uh five outdoor cameras, flood light, smoke detectors, and an alarm system. [1:45:45, 1:46:01]: SIS system. Security coded entry doors and monitored entry system is required. Medication storage, they must have medication storage that is restricted from authorized access. Accessibility features, grab bars, and appropriate signage throughout, and emergency exit system. [1:46:03, 1:46:23]: Uh emergency procedures. Staff would address the situation. Well, I'm not gonna go through that for the sake of time. But um as I mentioned, um we've decided to make personal care homes in the city of Stark Brig a regulatory use. And um as a regulatory business, the city shall require reasonable investigation, assessment, [1:46:23, 1:46:43]: The application, a permit fee of$1,500 that cannot be prorated on or after July 1st and valid through December 31st of the year applied. A valid permit may be renewed for a consecutive one-year period. So they will have to come in and get their permit renewed. Additional conditions upon operations to assure the [1:46:43, 1:47:03]: Compatibility with other uses in the vicinity and to ensure public health, safety, and welfare as determined by the city. And you permit and denial. So we're recommending that the city can revoke or deny the application. If the applicant has been convicted of a felony, the applicant is under the age of 21. The applicant made a false [1:47:03, 1:47:23]: Statement in application for a license. The application on their face indicates that the proposed personal care home cannot be operated in accordance with the requirements of this section or any other significant finding. And business services or the city can also revoke their approved permit if the owner or operator of the personal care home. [1:47:22, 1:47:42]: Violates any requirements of this section. The owner or operator of the personal care home is convicted of a felony. Personal care home is not in compliance with one or more of the conditions of its license. Owner of operator has committed fraud in the rendering or of service of fraud or deceit in obtaining this permit. The owner or emplo or any employee has engaged in any fraudulent [1:47:42, 1:47:54]: false, misleading, or deceptive practice in the operation of the facility, the owner, resident or any employee commits any crime, criminal act at the premises holding, and any or any other significant finding. [1:47:56, 1:48:16]: Uh uh let me touch on this. Um like I mentioned previously personal care homes shall be considered regul a regulated business in the city of Stockbridge. The the non-refundable annual fee is based on the gross receipts of the businesses and added with an annual permit, so they must play occupational taxes. Applicants are required to file. [1:48:16, 1:48:36]: File for a personal care home permit within the City of Stockbridge Business Service Division annually. A person or entity seeking to own or operate a personal care home within the city must apply for and receive an OTC. The OTC must be renewed and issued annually. The city may impose additional conditions on the operation of a personal care home. [1:48:35, 1:48:55]: as it deems necessary to ensure its compatibility with surrounding land use and to protect the health, safety, and welfare. A personal care home OTC once again may be revoked if the the owner of this personal care home violates any of the s commits a felony or fraud on his application. [1:48:55, 1:49:15]: And personal care homes must maintain an act active OTC license from the city of Stockbridge. So those are basically the standards and regulations that we came up with to go along with updating section nine, title nine of the City Code of Ordinances. [1:49:15, 1:49:16]: [6557.4, 6558.2]: So [1:49:18, 1:49:21]: All right, counseling questions for Mr. Anderson. [1:49:22, 1:49:24]: Anybody? I do want to. Go write it, please. [1:49:27, 1:49:32]: Well, you know what? This is a public hearing item. Yes it is. I'll wait until after the public has [1:49:32, 1:49:35]: Offer comments. [1:49:38, 1:49:44]: All right. There's no comments, then it is a public hearing. So from far left side, any p comments four. Four. [1:49:46, 1:49:47]: In the middle. In comments four. [1:49:49, 1:49:51]: A far right, and comments four. [1:49:51, 1:50:08]: Yeah, my far left, any comments against what was mentioned. Anything in the middle? Anyb against? Okay, you come on up, sir. We got a line up. Um I'm on the far right, anybody against what was mentioned or in reference to this? Anybody against? Okay. Name and address please. [1:50:11, 1:50:31]: Robert Schuel, two fifty three Shields Road. Okay. This property's directly across from my house. Uh wait a minute. This is uh this is two seventy No no two we haven't got there yet, sir. We're talking about this is a city, this is a citywide Oh I'm sorry. Texas I jumped a gun. Yeah, there is there is a next one coming up, deals with Texas. [1:50:31, 1:50:35]: But we haven't talked about that just yet. That's coming. That's coming. [1:50:36, 1:50:40]: All right, so any in any no no other comments for or against. [1:50:41, 1:50:45]: All right. All right, Sean. I guess uh Sean has something to say here, so uh questions. [1:50:47, 1:50:48]: Just want to make sure. [1:50:53, 1:51:07]: Um, I'll just like to add, uh I don't recall hearing it, but just for the sake of that, uh I will also include that they must have a generator um in the vent there. There's a winter storm and the power goes out due to that care. I think that's extremely important. [1:51:08, 1:51:09]: A generator. [1:51:11, 1:51:12]: Think of that. [1:51:13, 1:51:18]: Well that have to be in emotion then I would imagine. Yeah, well as a condition. I mean as a condition, yeah. [1:51:19, 1:51:26]: All right. So no that comes for or against. All right. So on that note then, if the council [1:51:26, 1:51:27]: And it's [1:51:27, 1:51:28]: Yeah, yeah. [1:51:30, 1:51:42]: Distance requirement. Can you also include that in this text amendment? For what now? Whis w a distance requirement. Oh yeah, we we we have that um the distance requirement is is fifteen hundred feet. [1:51:42, 1:51:50]: Fifteen hundred fifteen hundred feet. Okay. So I can support this, but I would like to see us have a [1:51:52, 1:51:56]: Have us increase the distance requirement to w to five miles. [1:51:57, 1:51:58]: Five miles. Mm-hmm. [1:51:58, 1:52:03]: I say five miles because my dist my district is so elongated. [1:52:04, 1:52:06]: I don't know about anybody else's, but [1:52:06, 1:52:20]: Mine is so elongated. I I want to suggest five miles, but perhaps a three mile distance may be good. I would need to check with um legal counsel to see if if if that's feasible. Uh [1:52:21, 1:52:41]: Uh well because there's some other the fifteen hundred feet that um that doesn't help my district. I don't want my district to be oversaturated with personal care homes. Okay. My district is the one that's most elongated, so that fifteen hundred feet may work for the other districts. Okay. It doesn't necessarily for mine. What [1:52:41, 1:52:43]: What about uh our standard? One mile. [1:52:44, 1:52:45]: That we've already [1:52:46, 1:52:49]: How about three? Three miles. Okay. [1:52:50, 1:53:03]: Okay. All right. Um Mr. Hetmuson. So otherwise this is something that would have to be in the the motion to approve, the septis, whatever the distance required would be. [1:53:04, 1:53:06]: One mile, three miles, six miles. [1:53:06, 1:53:08]: I I I would say this. Um [1:53:09, 1:53:29]: Just listening to the restrictions that we put in place, it's gonna cost about a hundred thousand dollars just for them to get off the ground besides obtaining all the other permits and license. I think the city went above and beyond and put a lot of restrictions. But we also don't want to make sure that we're not adding such restrictions that we are a bit it's a deterrent, right? Because it is [1:53:29, 1:53:32]: [6815.0, 6816.4]: Okay. Okay. [1:53:39, 1:53:41]: Go ahead, son. I'm sorry, sir. [1:53:41, 1:54:01]: Yes, sir. Uh I was just, you know, saying with all the restrictions that we put on there from them having a digital keypad, the fence, the three sixty cameras, the generator, uh the parking spaces, I mean it's a lot. Um and I think with those in place, it's very unlikely we [1:54:01, 1:54:15]: We probably get a lot of those. I think with the restriction we have in place, I think it's fair to say, hey, we we're not trying to fully restrict, but we are trying to control. I think the restrictions we have in place is reasonable. Um [1:54:16, 1:54:32]: That's a that's a lot. I mean, that's gonna be about a hundred thousand dollars easy just with those modifications inside that we're not even talking about inside the home. Uh it it takes a lot to start one of these things and I just don't think there'll be an influx of those. But once again, if they are. [1:54:33, 1:54:50]: they have to come back before you to get a permission anyway. So it's not like, you know, once this passes that they don't have to come back before this body. They do. They have to state their case. And these are some of the things that you can consider uh or deliberate on before you make a final decision to allow them a special use permit to to operate. [1:54:51, 1:54:59]: Stand by. Sir. You wanna continue on? Please, if I may. Go ahead. Um, because that fifteen hundred feet [1:54:59, 1:55:02]: distance requirement, it may be [1:55:03, 1:55:05]: Fine for the other districts. [1:55:05, 1:55:10]: But not mine, because my district is so elongated. [1:55:10, 1:55:12]: The landmass is much wider. [1:55:13, 1:55:14]: And I don't want [1:55:15, 1:55:18]: My district saturated with a whole lot of personal care homes. [1:55:18, 1:55:24]: We have the downtown area right in the middle of my district. So it makes it a little complicated. [1:55:25, 1:55:35]: Um so I want to extend that distance requirement. I will make a motion um for this if the council uh supports a two mile [1:55:36, 1:55:39]: distance requirement and [1:55:39, 1:55:39]: Um [1:55:41, 1:55:42]: And maybe I overlooked it. [1:55:44, 1:55:51]: Not having personal care homes inside of HOA subdivisions. Yeah, that's it. Okay, so it's just outside. [1:55:52, 1:55:53]: Neighborhoods. [1:55:54, 1:56:14]: One and one acre lot. So that's not a lot of parcels kind of like that that meets this kind of it's very limited. Uh so I think it's restrictive, but once again, um it's up to y'all to add that okay additional restriction. I so the fencing, it has to be full fencing. Yep. [1:56:14, 1:56:15]: Um [1:56:16, 1:56:21]: Can we make that wrath iron fencing because just a regular [1:56:21, 1:56:24]: Like fencing, it falls over. [1:56:24, 1:56:29]: I've got a lot of that in my district and I want to kind of [1:56:30, 1:56:36]: Increase the quality of the fencing. I don't just want anybody to just put up just a regular [1:56:36, 1:56:38]: Either wooden fence or [1:56:39, 1:56:44]: What he called a little chain fence. And I've got a lot of that in my district. [1:56:45, 1:56:47]: So help me. Okay. Um [1:56:49, 1:56:52]: That's one. And let's see. [1:56:57, 1:57:03]: Uh okay, parking on the lawn is prohibited. So the length of the driveway will have to cover that. [1:57:04, 1:57:05]: Um fifty feet. [1:57:07, 1:57:10]: The fifty feet setback. Okay. [1:57:10, 1:57:10]: Um [1:57:13, 1:57:18]: Is it too much um with adding um speed bump? [1:57:21, 1:57:41]: Well, that's uh typically traffic common is a process for traffic common. That would require a study to be done and and for council to vote on traffic common and'cause then that also affects public safety as well. So I'm not saying it can't be done, but for us to decide that tonight, we will have to look at the scenario'cause I think it's not a one size fit all. [1:57:40, 1:57:46]: depending on what the location of these particular houses. So we would have to take another look at that, I would say. [1:57:46, 1:57:50]: Okay. The reason why I want to make sure that [1:57:51, 1:57:52]: Alvis [1:57:53, 1:57:55]: Our document is because we have [1:57:56, 1:57:57]: a [1:57:58, 1:58:01]: Applicant that has submitted a application. I want to make sure that we [1:58:01, 1:58:21]: cover this for any additional or potential right um applications that may come forward. Um and and that will be the a discussion, right? So depending on the location now that you have about it I better idea where this proposed housing is gonna be located, then we have a opportunity to look at that location and see if those things can be added on there or they open [1:58:21, 1:58:29]: open to it because we just don't know right now. Uh because it's, you know, situation dependent, I would say, when it comes to traffic calming, et cetera. [1:58:30, 1:58:30]: Okay. [1:58:31, 1:58:32]: Mayor. [1:58:34, 1:58:37]: Stand by, please. Yeah, go ahead, Ms. Camp. [1:58:37, 1:58:38]: Oh thank you [1:58:38, 1:58:45]: Um, I'm I'm okay with the one mile radius, like all the rest of the restrictions. If you really look at it, you got um an acre. [1:58:46, 1:58:53]: um lot that's very rare nowadays here. Um, if we can even get people in a acre lot. [1:58:53, 1:59:13]: I guess one of my questions was how is b like housing? Um, is it one one senior per bedroom or or is that the requirement or how how does that work? I'm just curious as to know how that is. Um so we make sure that there's no that I know there's a limit. [1:59:13, 1:59:31]: I thought I saw up to six. And the house the full house, but how many bedrooms are required um in order to run this type of establishment with with six or is it one per bedroom occupancy or is two per bedroom occupancy? [1:59:31, 1:59:40]: Okay. Um i is there a certain size the bedroom has to be with that and all those that were in the requirements are in there? I just wanna make sure'cause I [1:59:40, 2:00:00]: Just want to double check. So these these uh housing or these buildings has to be in compliance with the United Building Code as well, residential code for for housing, for safe egress and e ingress as well. So it's not like they can't throw up a bunch of rooms and stick a bunch of people in there. So uh and that's another reason why we put inside [2:00:00, 2:00:12]: the recommend uh the requirement that they submit plans so that we can see the layout to make sure it's still in compliance with uh the building code as well. And and I appreciate that. And um in regards to [2:00:12, 2:00:13]: I'm not [2:00:13, 2:00:33]: really in favor of speed bumps on a private driveway. It's a private road, a private I mean a private property, so to speak. Um it's just a it's private property. So, you know, parking, it's you're going up a driveway, I don't think that's really necessary. Um, but I do think that um, you know [2:00:33, 2:00:40]: No, I just wanted to make sure those requirements are met. [2:00:40, 2:00:48]: I mean, based off of the square mileage of our city, that, you know, just putting the one mile restriction like we do everything else, I think, would be sufficient. [2:00:51, 2:00:52]: Okay, any other comments? [2:00:53, 2:01:13]: Yeah, I I think the one mile restriction would be uh appropriate for for the um for this particular circumstance. I just wanted to make sure that in a residential area that the parking was going to be um adequate for it. And I think Miss Gantt answered my question about um [2:01:13, 2:01:33]: You know, if you got six people in there and you know, the square footage on a house, if you got six people in there and a twenty two hundred square feet house, it might be a little bit tight with two people in each bedroom. So the restrictions on what the size of the house and and everything to make sure that [2:01:33, 2:01:53]: you know, that there's appropriate space uh in terms of ADA accommodations, all that stuff matters. Right. And and and and the you know the compliance e the ADA compliance and all of that. So certainly that would need to be appropriate, but the one mile restriction, there are certain areas in the city where you don't want to [2:01:53, 2:02:13]: Where it's going to be appropriate at. So I wouldn't want to do a five-mile restriction on this or or an extended one. I would want to do the one mile because it's going to be a need in the area. I just want to know a lot a little bit more about it in terms of you we say the residents. [2:02:13, 2:02:20]: uh the resident what the and uh may maybe the after can talk about what the resident population looks like in the facility. [2:02:23, 2:02:36]: Or maybe someone could talk about the re what what is the clientele look like? What what is the the the the the the users look like? Uh what does that represent? Uh w we'll get to that when we come up with the rezoni. [2:02:37, 2:02:40]: I'm saying in general with the population that uses these facilities. [2:02:41, 2:03:01]: Um like maybe um disabled veteran or uh a disabled individual, someone who can't fully take care of themselves but they are dependent, but they still need a little assistance, maybe with getting dressed or using a bathroom or something like that, toilet. [2:03:00, 2:03:03]: We we identified the the uses in the in the presentation. [2:03:04, 2:03:24]: Okay. I I I just wanna to understand'cause I looked at it and I said as it says there was no there wasn't gonna be anyone that would w would we be independent living or assisted living. No, it's not n no, it's not assistant living or they're h they're healthy individuals. They just might forget to take their medicine or something like that. [2:03:24, 2:03:25]: Okay. [2:03:25, 2:03:45]: All right, well that that sounds appropriate for what we're trying to do, um, and uh and understanding'cause the language is kinda complex, it's kinda cumbersome to read it all and just to try to take it all in to see.'Cause you know, a couple of weeks ago we had a situation where we had someone wander off and we spent an extended amount of time [2:03:45, 2:03:54]: in a search for that particular individual, search thank God that they were found safe. So that's not the population that would be targeted for this particular [2:03:55, 2:04:06]: Um no sir, I don't think that's a good idea. This particular use? No, sir. No. Okay. No. You have any comments, sir? Yeah, for you. Okay, so [2:04:06, 2:04:11]: All the other districts have s HOA subdivisions in them. [2:04:12, 2:04:13]: Mine does not. [2:04:14, 2:04:17]: Mine is majority neighborhoods. [2:04:17, 2:04:19]: Well, except for the subdivision [2:04:19, 2:04:20]: The half. [2:04:21, 2:04:24]: The one half of my subdivision that I represent. [2:04:25, 2:04:28]: Ninety five percent of my district is neighborhoods. [2:04:29, 2:04:31]: The rest of their districts have HOA. [2:04:32, 2:04:35]: Neighborhoods and apartment complexes. [2:04:36, 2:04:39]: That's why the distance requirement is important to me. [2:04:40, 2:04:43]: So when when it comes to the distance requirement. [2:04:43, 2:05:03]: I'm amenable to two miles, but definitely not fifteen hundred feet or one mile. The thing is what when I said five or two, three, four, or five probably wouldn't work because I'm not sure your your district exceeds six total square miles in area. So that means you wouldn't baby [2:05:03, 2:05:23]: To have another one in your district, period. You would just only be only able to have this one. So a one-mile distance requirement would be more appropriate. You only have like six total square miles that make up your whole entire district. Uh the city is 20 square miles. The whole entire city of Stockbridge is 20 19 point something total square miles. [2:05:23, 2:05:35]: miles. So that means we could have four in the whole entire city if we went with five. But your district is slightly over five square miles. So that would mean you you would only be able to have this one if you approve it. [2:05:35, 2:05:39]: So I beg to differ if you had a map. [2:05:40, 2:05:42]: Of my district, um [2:05:42, 2:05:44]: It's a lot wider. [2:05:44, 2:05:48]: than six miles. In fact, my district is [2:05:48, 2:05:53]: Фардессах аварс фарде сад іст аварсі [2:05:53, 2:05:58]: All the way farthest north of our city limits, and everything in between. [2:05:59, 2:06:00]: So [2:06:00, 2:06:03]: No. Having um [2:06:03, 2:06:06]: A personal care home every one mile. [2:06:07, 2:06:09]: That that's not feasible. [2:06:09, 2:06:12]: Of course they are okay with it because it doesn't affect their district. [2:06:13, 2:06:18]: Because all of their districts have apartments and HOA neighborhoods in which [2:06:19, 2:06:30]: Your recommendation restricts personal care homes in HOA neighborhoods. So they don't really care. So it's it's correct, it's every square mile, not every mile. [2:06:30, 2:06:31]: Square mile. [2:06:31, 2:06:34]: Square mile. Square mile, not every mile. [2:06:35, 2:06:35]: Thank you. [2:06:36, 2:06:36]: Yes, ma'am. [2:06:36, 2:06:37]: Thank you for that. [2:06:37, 2:06:38]: Okay. [2:06:43, 2:06:44]: But I still want to increase that. [2:06:47, 2:06:51]: Can we still increase that to two? Two, please. [2:06:51, 2:07:11]: Please. Oh well I'll make the motion. Can I make a motion and see if my councilmates and see what see what the rest of the council has to say? Okay. So I will make a motion to approve staff recommendation um for the text amendment TX dash two zero two five dash zero two. [2:07:11, 2:07:12]: City wide. [2:07:13, 2:07:33]: To amend the City of Stockbridge Code of Ordinances to create a new section to establish supplemental use standards for personal care homes for one to six unrelated adults, to identify zoning districts where such uses are permitted by special use permit, to establish compliance. [2:07:33, 2:07:47]: operational and developmental standards to amend the home occupation section and for other purposes, including the condition of the distance requirement of two square miles. [2:07:48, 2:07:51]: Is there a second? Mayor. Yes, ma'am. [2:07:55, 2:07:58]: Yes, and the generator. And to include the generator. [2:08:02, 2:08:04]: You have a question, sir? I would go ahead. [2:08:05, 2:08:25]: Uh to Councilwoman Barber, I just wanna pose a question. Is is it a possibility that we can go back to the one square mile? My my only concern is I don't want us to look like we're so restrictive to a population that's already underserved and underprivileged when we talk about personal care homes. And I think [2:08:25, 2:08:45]: When we make an abundance of restrictions, it sends a mixed signal. I know we don't want to have them, you know, so many within that square mileage. And I think what they've offered is a good alternative. But I think when we make so many harsh restrictions on a vulnerable population, it's a bad message for us. [2:08:44, 2:09:03]: As a counsel to say, hey, we don't want that vulnerable population to live in the city of Stockbridge by these harsh restrictions that we put in. So I I'm not saying that, you know, it's it's bad, but I just kinda tone it back a little. Can we I understand exactly what you mean? And I can agree with that, but um [2:09:04, 2:09:08]: Let's consider redrawing these district lines because what was left [2:09:09, 2:09:20]: when everybody else had input in drawing their districts, they left me what was left. I inherited from the So all of the areas that are vulnerable, all of the [2:09:20, 2:09:24]: Во сам одіс арез, арес да [2:09:24, 2:09:26]: Require a lot of rehabbing. [2:09:27, 2:09:29]: And infrastructure improvements. [2:09:29, 2:09:33]: That's the areas that I have, and what I don't want to do is oversaturate. [2:09:34, 2:09:35]: My district [2:09:35, 2:09:36]: With personal care homes. [2:09:37, 2:09:39]: The undesirables um [2:09:39, 2:09:40]: Bad. [2:09:40, 2:09:41]: The rest uh [2:09:41, 2:09:51]: their districts won't even allow because they are in HOAs and apartment complexes. So it only affects mine really. I'm sorry, point of order. [2:09:52, 2:09:55]: Please do not refer to this population as the other. [2:09:56, 2:10:02]: Can you please add that to my condition? Well, it's fencing. The fencing there is typically. [2:10:02, 2:10:22]: Roth iron. If you can add that as a condition to my motion too, please. That's expensive. Roth iron? That is very expensive. Well, is there another type other than just a chain length chain fence? Rhod iron fence. Privacy fence. What is privacy fence? Oh no, those kind of [2:10:22, 2:10:42]: uh deteriorate really quickly. Is there another type of material that kinda is durable that will last? That's that's too extreme. I can't sorry. That's expensive. The rod iron is too expensive. Businesses don't even put up rod iron. I'm not doing because of the cost. It's it's iron is very expensive. [2:10:42, 2:10:52]: Extremely okay, so these are the complex discussions that we have to have for just my district. It's really only affects my district once again. [2:10:52, 2:10:59]: Their districts are mostly HOA managed neighborhoods and apartment complexes in which [2:10:59, 2:11:02]: This really doesn't apply to them, only to mine. [2:11:03, 2:11:14]: They drew my district that way. But nonetheless. I did not um can we just another alternative can we say in the most or you can say or similar in style. Or similar. In style. Let's say or similar. [2:11:15, 2:11:20]: Okay. Are you uh minimal to one mile or you staying with two miles? I'm not getting my motion has two miles. [2:11:21, 2:11:23]: All right, so is there a second to the motion? [2:11:23, 2:11:25]: Is there a second to the motion? [2:11:28, 2:11:30]: No no second to the motion. Motion dies. [2:11:31, 2:11:51]: I will not accept anything more than um Okay. Well is there well with there needs to be a mayor. Yes, sir. Got a motion. Uh make a motion to approve with the one mile distance limit and the generator being established with it. We've established parking and certainly uh as Mr. Edmondson has indicated, the wrought iron fencing and all of that would be [2:11:51, 2:11:58]: more expensive in commerce and this is we're we're at the point where we need to be at so appro motion to approve. [2:11:58, 2:12:05]: Is there a second to that motion? Well well you're not talking about a right arm thing. You say No, I'm saying no wr no right arm. No right arm. Okay. I I second. [2:12:05, 2:12:08]: Okay, Ms. Gantt second the motion. All in favor, please indicate. [2:12:09, 2:12:22]: All opposed. I will abstain, sir. Okay, so it's three zero one motion passed. I'd like to add a comment to my abstention, as I always do. I will abstain because this mostly affects my district. [2:12:22, 2:12:25]: The other districts are all [2:12:25, 2:12:35]: have HOAs and apartment complexes. It mostly affects my district. And I would prefer there be a [2:12:35, 2:12:36]: Um [2:12:36, 2:12:38]: Wider restriction. [2:12:38, 2:12:40]: On these to two miles. [2:12:41, 2:12:43]: With wroth iron or [2:12:44, 2:12:46]: Some other similar fencing. [2:12:47, 2:12:49]: Along with the generator. [2:12:50, 2:12:53]: And everything else that I named in my original motion. [2:12:53, 2:12:54]: Thank you. [2:12:55, 2:13:15]: All right, number four, special use permit case sp two zero two four-03 Council District 4. Consideration of a special use permit to allow personal care home to operate on property 270 Shields Road within an existing single-family detached residence. Applicant agents Sonia John, the property is located at landlock. [2:13:14, 2:13:34]: 70 of district twelve and it contains 1.47 miles, excuse me, 1.47 acres. Mr. Ryan, uh Mr. Anson, please. Okay, Mayor I'm gonna go through this real fast. I got well oh wow, I'm looking at a 57-page report, but um uh since council approved um the previous uh text amendment [2:13:34, 2:13:40]: Staff is recommending approval with conditions provided that the applicant meets all the requirements. [2:13:41, 2:13:45]: That's in the ordinance that we recently but that we just passed. Staff record. [2:13:46, 2:13:51]: Council, any questions for uh this case that Mr. Ryan, Ms. Anderson just presented? [2:13:52, 2:13:53]: Applications. [2:13:55, 2:13:58]: Okay, excuse me. I didn't okay. [2:13:59, 2:14:01]: That's why she was raising her hand earlier, I guess. Okay. [2:14:02, 2:14:04]: Yeah. [2:14:08, 2:14:10]: Name and address, please. [2:14:10, 2:14:16]: Good evening, Michelle Battle with Battle Law, thirty five sixty two, Habersham at North Flake, Tucker, Georgia, three zero zero eight four. [2:14:17, 2:14:37]: How much time do I have? Ten minutes. Um You got time. I'm slightly distressed by the last piece that was just approved, only because um I've helped a number of personal care homes. The fact that the city doesn't have any personal care homes is interesting in and of itself. [2:14:37, 2:14:51]: Um there are many people who need this assistance. We are living in a time where in a minute a lot of folks aren't even gonna have Medicaid. They're gonna need places to stay. A lot of our seniors are gonna need I'm a senior. [2:14:53, 2:15:00]: We're gonna need places to be. Our families are gonna we wanna be around our families. We don't wanna be two or three cities away. [2:15:01, 2:15:08]: With requirements so restrictive that the personal care homes, most of these are ran quite honestly by a lot of women. [2:15:09, 2:15:12]: Women helping women. Women helping women. [2:15:13, 2:15:16]: Mothers, grandmothers, aunts. [2:15:17, 2:15:36]: People that need a place to be because they can't care for themselves in the same way that others can, where they can stay in their homes. I have an aunt that's ninety that's able to stay in her home, but I also had a mother who couldn't stay in her home and she needed a place to stay. [2:15:38, 2:15:40]: I run a non profit. [2:15:42, 2:15:48]: for young adults who are special needs adults who cannot stay on their own. [2:15:49, 2:15:56]: They need a place to stay. They cannot stay by themselves. That is their home for the rest of their lives. [2:15:57, 2:15:58]: Because they cannot [2:15:59, 2:16:06]: They are mentally or physically disabled to the point that they cannot stay by themselves. This is where they have to be. [2:16:07, 2:16:27]: And so as a society, we have a responsibility to the least of those. And when you put such restrictions, then it makes it almost impossible for those personal care homes to afford to be in existence. They're not getting major dollars. [2:16:27, 2:16:31]: Medicare and Medicaid only give a certain amount. [2:16:33, 2:16:34]: Per person. [2:16:37, 2:16:47]: The startup costs that you all have, you know, the state regulates what they can do, how big the rooms have to be, how many people can be in a room. Those are state regulations. [2:16:48, 2:16:51]: So it's really hurtful to me. [2:16:51, 2:17:05]: to hear the restrictions that are being placed and want to put more and more restrictions because we're more worried about distance and how many people are going to be within a s in a square footage than it is about the people who need the help. [2:17:07, 2:17:08]: It's not until it's your mom. [2:17:09, 2:17:11]: Or your aunt, or your cousin, or whoever it is. [2:17:12, 2:17:16]: that needs the assistance and you can't find it and you want them to be close to you. [2:17:18, 2:17:22]: So that you don't have to go two or three cities over. [2:17:22, 2:17:24]: Де хав лес рестричніс. [2:17:25, 2:17:30]: for you to be able to care for your parent or it or or your loved one. [2:17:30, 2:17:33]: So I apologize for being so [2:17:34, 2:17:38]: angst about this, but it is something that I deal with every [2:17:39, 2:17:40]: Day. [2:17:40, 2:17:59]: And I represent people who have these personal care homes. And it gets offensive to me at times when I hear there's more worry about the distance than there are about the people who need the help. They don't want to be in a personal care home trust. Does anybody in here want to be in a personal care home? [2:18:00, 2:18:04]: That's not the place you wanna be, but it may be the place you end up. [2:18:05, 2:18:14]: And you pray that you're able to be near the people who live in your city who are maybe your kids or whomever that you love and that you want to come and see you. [2:18:14, 2:18:18]: And not have to live so far away that they can't even get to you. [2:18:19, 2:18:22]: through the traffic and all the other things that we have going on around here. [2:18:22, 2:18:24]: That being said, the [2:18:24, 2:18:30]: We believe that this place at two seventy Shields is an appropriate location. We meet the requirements. [2:18:30, 2:18:39]: We meet the requirements with regards to the lot size, with regards to the setbacks, with regards to the distances, all the stuff that has been discussed, we meet it. [2:18:40, 2:19:00]: She has been working on this since last year. She had approval for up to three. She now has approval in May of this year for up to six individuals to stay in the in the community that she is trying to develop. She is trying to do something good for people who live in the city of Stockton. [2:19:00, 2:19:12]: Stockbridge who right now there is no personal care home in the city of Stockbridge that allows up to six people. And I don't knew and I when I looked, I don't even know if I saw any that allowed up to three. [2:19:13, 2:19:19]: When I went on the state's website, there are none. So you're not taking care of those people right now. [2:19:20, 2:19:22]: You don't have an oversaturation'cause there is nobody. [2:19:24, 2:19:33]: The way that this is set up now, you have the ability to review just like this one, a special land use permit every time they come through. There's no [2:19:34, 2:19:35]: Байт. [2:19:36, 2:19:39]: Everybody has to come through this process unless I'm missing something. [2:19:40, 2:19:41]: They have to come through this process. [2:19:42, 2:19:51]: So you have an opportunity to look at where it's gonna be at and what the restrictions need to be and if there's anything particular and no different than us here. [2:19:51, 2:20:03]: Um I appreciate not having the wrought iron fence. That's expensive. Even home builders don't want to do the wrought iron fence because it's so expensive to do. Um [2:20:04, 2:20:10]: We believe that again this is an appropriate location. We are in the SR district. [2:20:10, 2:20:11]: Um [2:20:12, 2:20:20]: The site has a long driveway up, so there is plenty and ample opportunity to take cars off the road for parking. [2:20:20, 2:20:27]: Um the home will be um continue to be um renovated. There's um space within the interior. [2:20:27, 2:20:29]: А фордикс резидентс тел битву. [2:20:30, 2:20:30]: Um [2:20:31, 2:20:33]: Фултиме звубикне. [2:20:34, 2:20:34]: Um [2:20:35, 2:20:55]: Um and so we believe that this again makes sense. Um the residents primarily will be seniors. Um there may be one or two younger people. Um when I say younger, that may be 40 or 50. Um you're typically not mixing a lot of different populations together. You're trying to create [2:20:55, 2:20:57]: Крейте а хом пізніс самадіс хом. [2:20:58, 2:21:05]: For some people they may be able to eventually go back to their other homes, but for some, this may be it for the rest of their time. [2:21:06, 2:21:26]: Um and so we ask that you um approve the application with the conditions um put forth by staff. I know that there's some people here I've heard at other hearings that have spoken in opposition or who have questions or concerns, but I certainly hope that we as a society and this city, this is a great city of Stockbridge, you are [2:21:26, 2:21:38]: Doing amazing things here. You want to take care of those who are able to get out and to enjoy and to play and to entertain and all those kind of things. But I ask you to also consider [2:21:38, 2:21:40]: Those who cannot. [2:21:41, 2:21:52]: Those who need assistance, those who need a place to be and feel loved and cared for. Because in a few minutes, there are gonna be a lot of people. [2:21:52, 2:21:57]: who are gonna have their parents in spaces that they will no longer be able to pay for or [2:21:57, 2:21:58]: Афорд [2:22:00, 2:22:03]: Because of what is happening at our federal level. [2:22:06, 2:22:15]: People are not gonna be in the same position. And these personal care homes may be the only place, only options that they have. [2:22:15, 2:22:20]: because of decisions that are beyond our abilities down here. [2:22:20, 2:22:34]: when it comes to the money that is necessary to take care of folks. So I just ask that we consider that as we consider this application. And my client is here as well. If um she'd like to speak, I'm turning the mic over to her. [2:22:35, 2:22:37]: Okay, good evening to everyone. [2:22:37, 2:22:40]: Um I am humbly asking [2:22:40, 2:22:44]: And I have come before you all many times. [2:22:44, 2:22:50]: I have my life saving in this. I had to mortgage my current home. [2:22:50, 2:22:53]: In order to facilitate what I'm doing. [2:22:54, 2:23:05]: I have made all the requirements that you'll ask, except for the um generator that y'all just add on to it. The state has come over twice to my place. [2:23:06, 2:23:10]: To inspect and has licensed me for six. [2:23:11, 2:23:23]: So all I'm asking is the opportunity to service my community as well, because this is part of the community. I am a resident, I pay taxes as well. [2:23:23, 2:23:24]: Um [2:23:24, 2:23:28]: All of us need to leave and all of us will at a point. [2:23:28, 2:23:30]: Need somewhere to be. [2:23:30, 2:23:32]: I can understand right now. [2:23:33, 2:23:33]: Ви [2:23:34, 2:23:36]: Don't think that we will need it. [2:23:37, 2:23:39]: But I can tell each and every one of us. [2:23:40, 2:23:48]: I may be the next one in these wheelchairs, these beds, or whatever they they uh how we accommodate them. [2:23:49, 2:23:53]: So I am humbly asking. I am tired. [2:23:54, 2:23:55]: Of waiting. [2:23:56, 2:24:01]: I am tired of spending everything that I have beyond what I can afford. [2:24:02, 2:24:03]: Just to do [2:24:03, 2:24:06]: what I feel that I was appointed to do. [2:24:06, 2:24:07]: Well. [2:24:07, 2:24:08]: So please. [2:24:09, 2:24:10]: Grant me that opportunity. [2:24:12, 2:24:13]: That's all I have to say. [2:24:13, 2:24:33]: Thank you. Appreciate your comments and uh Miss Battle, your enthusiasm and passion for all this. Um what I what I personally try to do when something like this comes up and look on the agenda, I drive by, get in my car, and I drive by the location. So I did that today as well. And uh what we just passed in a previous [2:24:33, 2:24:48]: previous discussion it uh we talked about security, we talked about a fence, okay? And I have to admit, I didn't see a fence around the property today. That property is f um free sighted fence. Free sighted. [2:24:49, 2:24:53]: Okay. [2:24:53, 2:25:13]: I'm sorry? It doesn't have to be in the front. It doesn't have to be in the front. Well, I have to admit I didn't get out of my car, but okay. I didn't get out of my car. I didn't walk the property. I just I didn't see one. Okay. And the security aspect, I mean, I mean, I like I said, I didn't get out of my car. So you have something that indicates a secure as well? So uh so [2:25:13, 2:25:33]: So Mayor, before we give her a business license, we I will send my t a team out to inspect to make sure that she's in compliance with the ordinance we just passed. All right and if she pass and uh if she meets all the requirements of the ordinance we just passed, then we will issue her a business license. All right. Why okay? So we'll make sure she got it. That's my case there. All right. I'll just leave it alone. Okay, council. [2:25:33, 2:25:34]: Any other questions, concerns? [2:25:35, 2:25:43]: No. Sorry, this is in my district. Go ahead. Um, and I'd like to wait until after public comments before I make a comment. [2:25:43, 2:25:45]: Anybody else? [2:25:45, 2:25:47]: I I just um [2:25:48, 2:26:01]: I don't have a comment. I'm I'm moved. I thank you for this m Mrs. Battle, Attorney Battle for telling her truth and and speaking what others [2:26:02, 2:26:21]: have thought, um and that there's a need. There's a need and and we have a responsibility to make sure that that need is fulfilled within our our community. Um and you know, we had uh years ago I guess some of the restrictions that [2:26:22, 2:26:42]: per s particularly the generator kind of, you know, I think is a good one for seniors in general with m not you know, a generator is important. Um years ago I remember we had uh one of our former solicitors, there was a group home that was being operated illegally. [2:26:42, 2:27:02]: And we were hound there was one in a subdivision one time, and there was one that was at a residence that was not in a subdivision, but it was up being operated legally, and the uh the the uh people that were in there were uh it did not look like as if they were being treated. [2:27:02, 2:27:06]: treated as as needed, but that was taken care of. [2:27:07, 2:27:11]: through the criminal justice system and so [2:27:11, 2:27:31]: The reason why I asked about the bed and and duh, it it ch you know, it's a group home, so uh state regulated. I wasn't thinking, I'm like, well, what about beds and how does that work? But when you in hindsight, when you really think about it, the states come out twice. They've already did theirs, no different than a daycare center or anything else that [2:27:31, 2:27:51]: has to be regulated by the state as well as by us. And so I'm definitely in support um of the need. We have to we can't be selfish and look at just our needs as individuals, but but years to come, our parents, our family members, [2:27:51, 2:28:03]: our loved ones and the need within our community alone. Um and so uh you know I'm for it and um I hope that my colleagues will be as well. [2:28:04, 2:28:09]: Yes, go yes, sir. Okay. [2:28:10, 2:28:30]: Yeah, I I just thank you for yielding. I just I just want to again echo w what I was trying to say earlier is that sometimes we we over politicize stuff and it's really not about the politics of it. It's it's about the compassion. And uh to to see, you know, to see people. I think some [2:28:30, 2:28:50]: Sometimes we see conditions, we see statistics, we see distance, but we don't see people. And and it and it goes against every fabric of who we are as people that when we take a away our ability to serve and to love and to see, uh, we dehumanize ourselves. [2:28:50, 2:28:52]: And it makes us [2:28:54, 2:29:14]: quite frankly, it it it it it makes us demonized to the point to where uh we can't do the simplest thing, which is what we are required to do, is to love one another. To to love one another as Christ loved the church. And I hate to to take it there, but that's who I am and that's the essence of who [2:29:14, 2:29:34]: my character is and that the elderly is a vulnerable population, the mental ill is a vulnerable population. The medically fragile is a vulnerable population. Foster kids, vulnerable populations. Um I can go on and on. Um [2:29:34, 2:29:54]: When we talk about family members who have had uh debilitating situations with cancer, with dialysis, with liver failure, kidney what whatever whatever the thing that you cannot imagine that could ever happen, it can happen. And it can happen at a moment that you didn't even expect it and it can come suddenly [2:29:54, 2:30:05]: and it can change your world and it can rock your family and it can change the whole dynamics of of everything you have as a as a as a person. And my granddad used to say this, he said, [2:30:05, 2:30:07]: If if it hadn't hit you today. [2:30:07, 2:30:08]: Keep living. [2:30:09, 2:30:11]: Keep living. If you haven't met trouble. [2:30:12, 2:30:27]: Keep living because if it doesn't show up today, it's gonna come. And when it comes, the measure of it will not be how you handle it. It will be how you treated others in the condition before you. You can't expect grace when you don't give it. [2:30:27, 2:30:37]: You can't expect love when you don't give it. You can't expect some so so as as a as a council, as a citizen, as a person, as a pastor, as a council member. [2:30:39, 2:30:40]: I got a grandmother. [2:30:42, 2:30:42]: I got a mother. [2:30:44, 2:30:49]: I've worked with foster care with the state of Georgia for over twenty five years, retired from the state. [2:30:52, 2:30:53]: Nobody. [2:30:53, 2:30:55]: Considers the less fortunate. [2:30:56, 2:30:58]: Until they're moving across the street. [2:30:59, 2:31:09]: And we try to figure out ways for them not to be there. And we try to figure out ways where where how can we hide'em? Uh how c how can how can we lock our eyes to like c like [2:31:10, 2:31:17]: Jesus' greatest commandments that what you do to the least you said it earlier, what you do to the least of these, you do also unto unto me. [2:31:20, 2:31:26]: But we like to say that we care about the world, we care about everybody, we care about the condition, the human condition. [2:31:27, 2:31:37]: until you gotta help somebody who's less fortunate. I mean really serve, not just look good on TikTok and on on social media, but when you really gotta serve somebody. Mm-hmm. [2:31:38, 2:31:44]: Then it gets distant and then it gets quiet and then people shrink. [2:31:44, 2:31:47]: And that's not the time to shrink, that's the time [2:31:47, 2:31:48]: To stand up. [2:31:50, 2:31:51]: So I I [2:31:52, 2:31:57]: I wish I could do more from this position and from this place. I wish I could do more. [2:32:02, 2:32:05]: I wish I would not be a You need to come to the mic if you can speak come to the mic, please. [2:32:06, 2:32:10]: I said I really appreciate your opinion and um I wish there was more [2:32:11, 2:32:13]: Who things like you because [2:32:13, 2:32:15]: When we on the other side [2:32:15, 2:32:16]: We don't see. [2:32:17, 2:32:20]: at the back of the fence until we cross over. That's right. [2:32:21, 2:32:22]: And um [2:32:24, 2:32:27]: All the stipulation that has been placed there. [2:32:28, 2:32:30]: It's making things more difficult. [2:32:31, 2:32:32]: More spending. [2:32:33, 2:32:37]: And I don't hear anywhere where anybody will give a grant to help. [2:32:39, 2:32:40]: I mortgage my home. [2:32:41, 2:32:42]: To do that. [2:32:43, 2:32:46]: I left my job to pay my full attention to that. [2:32:46, 2:32:48]: Right now they're leaving on my loan. [2:32:49, 2:32:50]: And um [2:32:51, 2:32:54]: Fixing doing whatever I have to do on this loan. [2:32:55, 2:32:57]: And I have been waiting quite a while. [2:32:58, 2:33:01]: And I'm getting hit with more stipulation to add on. [2:33:02, 2:33:14]: So what I need to know is do I have to add on all the stipulations that you'll add on to what the state has already approved? [2:33:15, 2:33:22]: Or is it moving forward to the next person that has to come up with all those requirements? [2:33:28, 2:33:33]: Because when I first applied, before I applied, when I applied for zoning [2:33:35, 2:33:38]: I was told what was the requ what the requirement were. [2:33:39, 2:33:42]: But apparently that it was not [2:33:43, 2:33:50]: It was not re um it was not allowing it anymore. But I was told what was the re the requirement was. [2:33:51, 2:33:53]: And I am reaching all the requirements. [2:33:53, 2:33:55]: The state have its requirements similar. [2:33:56, 2:33:58]: Similar to what it was. [2:33:58, 2:34:02]: and I'm reaching all the state requirements. Even when they came and inspect [2:34:03, 2:34:04]: Both times. [2:34:05, 2:34:07]: Ай, спок бабде пакін. [2:34:08, 2:34:22]: to to the inspector. And both of them were saying, What what is this? You have ample space at the back of the house. Why would you add anything more to that? [2:34:23, 2:34:26]: And I said, I don't know. That's the first time I'm seeing it. [2:34:27, 2:34:29]: I had a personal care home before in Riverdale. [2:34:30, 2:34:31]: And because most people [2:34:32, 2:34:33]: Ask for. [2:34:33, 2:34:35]: Other side of town. [2:34:36, 2:34:38]: This is why I purchased the home over here. [2:34:40, 2:34:40]: And [2:34:41, 2:34:43]: It's not a whole tailspin to me. [2:34:44, 2:34:48]: But I am willing to comply, but I just need to know [2:34:48, 2:34:52]: where I stand with your new requirements. [2:34:54, 2:34:55]: Prior to what was there? [2:34:56, 2:35:15]: I tell you what I I would imagine, good question. I would imagine we need to get a legal opinion on that as well. We just pa that's why I asked what I did earlier, because we just passed something just now. And I that that I understand that. I understand that. That's why I asked the question. Well, okay. Well, what we just passed. So [2:35:15, 2:35:23]: So I guess what it amounts to, and I don't know if Ryan, you wanna answer that, but I've but I understand Miss Battle's attorney, but also we have our own attorney like to write read in on this. Go ahead, sir. [2:35:23, 2:35:37]: Well uh the question was w whether could she be exempt from the requirements? Well basically b basically that's what she's asking is she's exempt from what we just passed because of what's been going on for the previous years, I would say. I t I I I'll refer to our zoning attorney, but um [2:35:39, 2:35:59]: far as my understanding, if we didn't have the the use in place, we didn't have regulations for it and we didn't allow for it. So the law just got to pass f a few minutes ago. So that means from the few minutes ago to now, um, everybody would have to be in compliance with it. But I'll get with Mr. Edmondson and see what we can do to [2:35:58, 2:36:05]: to maybe help her out, uh until we get a an opinion from Valerie. But [2:36:05, 2:36:25]: Everyone must comply with the with the ordinance. The ordinance just got passed. We didn't have anything on the books addressing it because personal care homes were not allowed in the city of Stockbridge. But we'll we'll do what we can uh after I speak. What part of the guidelines are you having the biggest issue with? What part of the law, the guidelines are you having the biggest issue with? Yeah. [2:36:28, 2:36:30]: question is [2:36:33, 2:36:53]: She had filed for a special land use permit under the ordinance based on the uses that were allowed. The c the city did not have regulations in place to regulate it from a business licensing perspective. So I think the question to your legal counsel. [2:36:53, 2:37:13]: Is in light of the fact that she had applied under the special land use permit provisions under your current zoning ordinance, and these are modifications in part to the business licensing and to the zoning ordinance. Technically, what I would say technically. [2:37:13, 2:37:20]: typically would be that those things would not apply to her because she applied before those regulations were put in place, technically. [2:37:22, 2:37:38]: I think that's a question that needs to be answered. Um can you place conditions? The the way around that is to say, okay, if she's not um suscepti if she's not required to comply because she applied before. [2:37:39, 2:37:56]: She would technically be grandfathered in, so to speak. But that does not mean that you cannot place those voluntarily on the applicant. I think she's willing to accept, I think most of them, with the exception of one or two things, because it didn't exist at the time she applied. [2:37:58, 2:38:18]: Come to Mike, if you're gonna talk Brian, couldn't I? I just have a question I would have to present to Valerie since the city is now regulating regulating these things. Will we be opening ourselves up to some liability if we waive some of the requirements, especially those better pertaining to health, safety, and welfare? Well that's what one one second, sir. That's why I asked. [2:38:18, 2:38:38]: Whether or not you mentioned Valerie, but I didn't know whether or not our attorney here would be able to get any type of initial opinion. So what what issues you have a problem with? [2:38:38, 2:38:58]: But come come to if you're gonna speak come to Mike since uh this this one's fine. I'm um it's three people over there. Um we can weigh in on it. It's simply this. She has bested rights for what she's applied to up to this point, right? So she would need a business license and all that stuff this year because if what you just passed would affect business licenses, but since she has her [2:38:57, 2:38:59]: Yeah. [2:38:59, 2:39:07]: Then that would be she would be grandfather into the process up to that point. But if she doesn't get it this go round, then they would apply for her next go round. Are we? [2:39:08, 2:39:28]: She has to apply for a business license. If she gets this approved, she has to apply for a business license to comply with whatever the business license is. For the business license. But I'm saying the fee, the zone. Yeah, that's that's part of the business license. I mean you can get it now, but next year you have to comply with the ordinance. But that would give [2:39:28, 2:39:30]: [9572.1, 9577.7]: Sh because she's applied, she has grandfathered in under what she applied under. [2:39:38, 2:39:41]: Right. So if she goes ahead and completes everything now. [2:39:41, 2:39:45]: then she's fine. When it rolls back around and she has not, then the new [2:39:46, 2:39:50]: ordinances and standards for the business license that you all just passed would kick in. [2:39:51, 2:40:10]: Okay, too many people talking to twelve months. Oh you think twelve month, right? Okay, well that's that's a thought. But you have to keep removing it. If you all pass things that affect your business licenses, anything that would affect it. [2:40:10, 2:40:16]: Everybody's fine until they have to apply for that license again and that's when it comes in unless they have an exemption. [2:40:16, 2:40:22]: Okay. All right. What I'm thinking on this is honestly on a is uh is that [2:40:24, 2:40:44]: What we just passed would have to be adhered to, but we would give you a time limit in order to do it. You wouldn't have to do it immediately, but we would give you twelve months with which to come back and have those requirements met since you and certainly I'm very sympathetic to the things that you have been through and understand. [2:40:44, 2:40:46]: I've done a lot of [2:40:46, 2:41:06]: soul searching and research myself in the past couple of weeks just to understand the need uh that exists and your passion that you mortgage your home and that you've you've you've really went so far beyond what most people would have done because you care makes a difference. It makes a real difference. [2:41:06, 2:41:24]: So I'd be willing to go ahead and do and give you twelve months to, you know, bring on the generator to do the other things that need to be done within twelve months. Hopefully some of the income that would come in would help offset and allow you to get the funds that you need to comply. [2:41:24, 2:41:33]: But that that obviously is uh that's a good idea, but obviously the council needs to agree to that. Plus we need to make sure we got a a good solid legal opinion on this as well before we go forward. [2:41:35, 2:41:35]: Still have it for. [2:41:36, 2:41:39]: I know, I know. I haven't I haven't forgot about a public hearing yet. I know. [2:41:40, 2:41:40]: Okay. [2:41:41, 2:41:43]: Yeah, I I you're right, I haven't. I I know I haven't. [2:41:44, 2:41:47]: Yes. And that's what they're talking about now. [2:41:48, 2:42:08]: I just wanna make sure on the record though, at a minimum she had to be state compliant. At a minimum. I mean, so I just wanna put that in there for the record. I am I am state compliant. I am. Yeah, but I know states sometimes change the laws and rules, and I just wanna make sure in that year time frame that we still stay in compliance with state throughout that process if we grant the business. [2:42:07, 2:42:20]: Right. All right. Every year the year every year the states come, every year they come, you have to renew your license, and if you don't reach the requirement, they cancel your license on you. Every year. [2:42:21, 2:42:22]: Right. [2:42:23, 2:42:32]: All right, since it is a public hearing, so um I'll start on my left side as well. Anybody have any comments for agreement for this to be approved? Any comments for? [2:42:32, 2:42:33]: In the middle. [2:42:34, 2:42:53]: On far right. Any comments against uh this process and um in reference to approval of this personal care on against. On the far left, the middle, far right. Okay, sir. Come on up, name and address please. You have uh negative comments against against this particular ruling. Name and address. [2:42:57, 2:43:17]: My name is Robert Schuhl. I live at 253 Shields Road. That picture up there, my house is directly across the street. At the bottom left corner of that is a two-acre pond. There's no fence in front of that property. We're worried, uh Councilman Alexander, you said somebody wandered off and we found. [2:43:17, 2:43:37]: found them. That's a concern I have. Um there should be a fence in there. And then you guys said something about um spotlights on the property. It's gonna be shining. They've already got one up there that shines in my house and now there's gonna be more shining. I think there needs to be a fence across the front of that. [2:43:37, 2:43:57]: To keep these people from wandering off. That's my concern. And we already have traffic problems with speeding. And if some of these people do get out, these people are going 60, 70 miles an hour down our street. So I think the speed humps would be reasonable. Not saying they're responsible for that. [2:43:57, 2:44:01]: something this the city might consider. Thank you. [2:44:01, 2:44:06]: Thank you for your comments. All right, Council. Uh Ms. Barber, you had some additional comments. [2:44:09, 2:44:17]: after we close public comments. Well pu well, I mean there's no other for or against. I mean we're ready to taper to a motion motion to approve. [2:44:19, 2:44:20]: The public area is closed. [2:44:24, 2:44:30]: This is a district that I represent. This issue has been like a ping pong for nearly a year. [2:44:31, 2:44:38]: Absolutely, I agree with the need of this personal care facility. I've spoken with Miss John. [2:44:38, 2:44:40]: A number of times since last year. [2:44:41, 2:44:47]: So I don't want the record to show that I don't support having personal care homes because I do. [2:44:48, 2:44:58]: City Council District 4 has unique housing needs beyond high density townhome developments and outside of this downtown area. [2:44:58, 2:45:08]: We have unique needs. Most of the areas in my district are legacy residents, and those homes are. [2:45:09, 2:45:15]: Older established homes and established neighborhoods. One of the concerns that I do have. [2:45:15, 2:45:16]: The gentleman. [2:45:16, 2:45:18]: Mr Schulz just mentioned. [2:45:19, 2:45:19]: The lake. [2:45:20, 2:45:22]: That's on his property. [2:45:23, 2:45:24]: That pond [2:45:25, 2:45:26]: Only has fencing. [2:45:27, 2:45:29]: right alongside the roadway. [2:45:31, 2:45:37]: The personal care home only has fencing on three sides. I asked mister Anderson. [2:45:37, 2:45:42]: Will this new text amendment require that the homeowners [2:45:42, 2:45:49]: Um well, for these personal care homes require the entire yard to be fenced. [2:45:50, 2:45:55]: I asked that specifically because I know this particular situation very well. [2:45:58, 2:46:00]: It's a safety concern. [2:46:01, 2:46:08]: And I don't know why that would not be something that staff would take in consideration when they brought this forward for [2:46:08, 2:46:28]: approval without looking at all of the concerns of this particular uh the code has restrictions on fences in the front yard. So about you you you rallied up. The fencing. Yeah fencing in the front yard. There are restrictions on the fences. Entire yard fencing. I asked you about that. The code the code doesn't allow that [2:46:28, 2:46:29]: Okay. [2:46:29, 2:46:38]: The current the current UDC does not allow that, so we'll have to amend the UDC. Does it require entire property be fenced? [2:46:39, 2:46:47]: No, just three quarters. Okay. Well, in this particular instance, there is a pond right across the street. [2:46:48, 2:46:51]: The the the There are no sidewalks, curb and gutters. [2:46:52, 2:46:54]: Nothing. The pun should have a fence around it. [2:46:54, 2:46:55]: Sorry. [2:46:55, 2:46:59]: The the pun should have a fence around it to protect people. The pond does. [2:46:59, 2:47:01]: Only along the roadway. [2:47:02, 2:47:16]: So there's uh what about the furniture of the pun? There's no you should know that. I don't know. I'm saying the pun is required the pun is required to be finished. I do if I can finish my comments here. If I do um [2:47:16, 2:47:22]: If I can. I support this personal care home. What I don't want is to oversaturate. [2:47:22, 2:47:24]: my district [2:47:24, 2:47:26]: With personal care homes again. [2:47:27, 2:47:28]: Again. [2:47:28, 2:47:30]: The northern eastern [2:47:31, 2:47:32]: End of my district. [2:47:33, 2:47:34]: Is all [2:47:35, 2:47:37]: Neighborhood streets. [2:47:37, 2:47:46]: Neighborhood streets in which I have been consistently told, even though there are safety concerns. [2:47:47, 2:47:49]: That roadway Shills Road [2:47:50, 2:47:51]: is a cut through road. [2:47:52, 2:48:01]: And there are a lot of pedestrians who speed up and down that road. I have brought that to the council's attention every single time mister Scholes has been here. [2:48:02, 2:48:05]: He has come to this council at least. [2:48:06, 2:48:16]: I don't know, five times between last year and this ye well, maybe two years ago and this year, he sent a number of emails to this council. [2:48:17, 2:48:21]: They even completed a petition for speed bumps. [2:48:23, 2:48:36]: So for y'all to sit here and now pretend like oh y'all concerned about oh the needs of the community, really? This is my district, but yet you've approved non-high density residential townhomes in my district. [2:48:37, 2:48:38]: My district. [2:48:39, 2:48:41]: I'm not done with my public comments. [2:48:41, 2:48:42]: I will continue. [2:48:43, 2:48:45]: The information that I received was [2:48:46, 2:48:48]: Um last year [2:48:48, 2:48:49]: was inaccurate. [2:48:52, 2:48:56]: I received some new information just last week. [2:49:00, 2:49:10]: Such businesses, such as personal care homes, specifically in City Council District 4, outside of the downtown. [2:49:10, 2:49:13]: are mostly neighborhoods. [2:49:13, 2:49:14]: And what I don't want [2:49:15, 2:49:18]: There's a whole lot of neighborhoods within a [2:49:19, 2:49:22]: One сквер міль від персонал КЕРХОМС. [2:49:23, 2:49:25]: We need diverse housing options. [2:49:26, 2:49:30]: Алсад агає ось остилтон. [2:49:31, 2:49:32]: We need [2:49:33, 2:49:37]: Senior living facilities, we need single family homes. [2:49:40, 2:49:44]: Personal care homes, of course we want them. We want daycares too. [2:49:47, 2:49:58]: I do support this, but we need to figure out what to do with the safety concerns for this particular area. I am concerned about the ponds. [2:49:59, 2:50:00]: I am. [2:50:01, 2:50:06]: I'm concerned about, you know, if the fencing requirement that we have [2:50:07, 2:50:07]: For [2:50:08, 2:50:21]: the personal care home is adequate or if you're going to require now that the homeowner who has the pond on his lot now he has to add more fencing to accommodate this personal care home. [2:50:22, 2:50:28]: There's a safety concern. There's no sidewalks or curb and gutters along that roadway. [2:50:30, 2:50:35]: This has been like a ping pong ball since last year. I want to get it resolved. [2:50:36, 2:50:56]: And Mr. Edmundson, if you can offer some suggestions on how I can go about um ensuring the folks in my district are safe, especially this personal care home. I don't mind approving this with um or grandfathering her in, but we need to address the safety concerns alongside [2:50:56, 2:51:05]: Shields wrote, why do I have to keep constantly having to fight for the needs of my community, the needs of my district? [2:51:05, 2:51:07]: That I've been elected to represent. [2:51:08, 2:51:11]: Why? Why do I have to fight for it every single time? [2:51:13, 2:51:17]: I would like to I asked a question of Mr. Edmondson if you don't mind this battle. [2:51:17, 2:51:30]: I think that you're not traveling with enough information about who's gonna be in the facility before w he can answer that question. So I'd like to respond to that. Okay. Because the people who will be in the facility number one will not have cars. [2:51:30, 2:51:38]: They will not have cars, number two. There may be most of the most of them are there may be visitors, I'm sure. [2:51:38, 2:51:58]: There may be visitors, but what I'm saying is the residents who we are concerned about in terms of their safety, most of them will not I mean not in none of them will have cars, number one, and most of them will be non-ambulatory. In other words, they're in wheelchairs, they will not be out, they will not be walking down the road, they will [2:51:58, 2:52:17]: will not be crossing over to the pond because there will always be a staff person. Um most of them will be, you know, taken out for, you know, day trips and things like that off site. But what they won't be doing is walking up and down the sidewalks or walking down the sidewalk. There are no sidewalks. [2:52:17, 2:52:37]: A again, walking up and down the street or any place else without staff, um, because staff will be probably taking them somewhere off site and not along that um area. So and having a fence along the frontage of the property is not typical, particularly in a residential [2:52:37, 2:52:57]: Context, maybe like a chain link four-foot fence or something like that. But then you would have to have a gate, which means that if the police or somebody, um ambulance or whatever has to come, now they have to tackle and deal with a fence to be able to get up in there. So we would ask not to have that type of a requirement um placed. [2:52:57, 2:53:03]: placed on this particular um uh home. So I'll [2:53:04, 2:53:05]: Defer to you. [2:53:12, 2:53:17]: What what was the question again? I'm sorry. [2:53:18, 2:53:30]: a ping palm since last year. If if the city did not have the appropriate um ordinances in place or the business license structure for [2:53:30, 2:53:32]: Issuing it last year. [2:53:32, 2:53:41]: Why has it taken a year for us to get to this point? So let's stop politicizing every issue, especially when it comes to my district. [2:53:42, 2:53:50]: All I want to know is what is best for me to ensure the safety of the residents in the area. [2:53:50, 2:54:04]: Not just this personal care home, where not this partic not just this particular personal care home, but any other personal care home that may come in my district or any other parts of our city. Right. Please. [2:54:05, 2:54:25]: Um yes man, as we uh said before, uh this one is a little bit different because of course it got grandfathered in, but anyone subsequent from this from tonight will have those restrictions in place. I believe those restrictions in place will ensure the safety of, you know, the housing and the neighborhood that we talked about because there's a whole lot more restrictions on [2:54:25, 2:54:26]: [10466.9, 10486.9]: behind this particular one. Um and like I said before, I think it's not a one size fit all. I believe that staff will be heavily engaged going forward in these type of different areas to seeing these these challenges that may or may not exist. Is there a lot of traffic? Is it you know uh speeding on that roads, all those things would be considered, I believe. [2:54:46, 2:55:06]: When the applicant come before council to apply for that business license, right? Those are some of the things that we can talk about and ask and say, you know, you know, stab, have you done your research on that? Have you noticed any things dealing with traffic or any concerns? Are there any ponds or lakes in the area? And I just believe that that's the time to have that conversation based off [2:55:06, 2:55:11]: off the applicant's, you know, or the location of the applicant after this particular situation. [2:55:13, 2:55:16]: Mayor Ford, I'd like to um make a motion. [2:55:17, 2:55:20]: Alright yeah. Okay. I move to approve. Um [2:55:21, 2:55:33]: Staff's uh recommendation to approve the special use permit to allow personal care home to operate on property at 270 SHIELS Road within an existing single family detached resident. [2:55:34, 2:55:40]: The property is located in land lot seventy of District Twelve and City Council District Four. [2:55:40, 2:55:44]: It will be grandfathered in based on the recommendations of staff. [2:55:45, 2:55:59]: There for clarification, it certainly needs to be a twelve month situation where the compliance is brought into compliance and then twelve months to bring it into the existing compliance. [2:55:59, 2:56:02]: Well that's that's up to whether or not she sept that to be part of her motion. [2:56:04, 2:56:05]: You step to be part of your motion? [2:56:06, 2:56:10]: Yeah, I accept anything anybody else wanna offer. What what else you wanna offer? [2:56:10, 2:56:12]: You got that in the motion? I'm ready to move on. [2:56:13, 2:56:14]: I'm ready to move on. [2:56:15, 2:56:19]: All right. Mr. Alexander second all in favor, please indicate. [2:56:20, 2:56:22]: Now it's decision. Thank you. All right. [2:56:24, 2:56:44]: All right, discuss new business. The Stockbridge Municipal Court is offering an amnesty program for individuals with outstanding traffic violation cases. The program specifically waives um failure to appear FTA arrest warrants for traffic offenses, allowing people to resolve their cases without fear and of arrest. The program will run from September 4th. [2:56:44, 2:56:49]: First to uh September thirtieth, twenty twenty five. Miss Stanley, please. [2:56:50, 2:57:10]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Evening. My name is Janae Stanley. I'm the court administrator for a municipal court, and I am here tonight recommending that the council adopt an amnesty program to take place September 1st through September 30th and to occur each year thereafter. What is an [2:57:10, 2:57:12]: Amnesty program. [2:57:16, 2:57:36]: An amnesty program is an initiative offering individuals with outstanding fines, warrants, or unresolved cases an opportunity to settle their matters during a specific time period without the uh additional penalties. The goal is to reduce outstanding warrants and license suspensions, clear to court the court. [2:57:36, 2:57:37]: Yeah. [2:57:38, 2:57:41]: And to help individuals avoid further legal complications. [2:57:43, 2:57:49]: The problems addressed with um an amnesty program or um campaign [2:57:49, 2:58:09]: is uh to help individuals resolve their risk of arrest, difficulty obtaining employment, driver's license issues, again the court's mounting backlog and inefficient use of resources, having to house older files, even though we are um 90% paperless, we still uh have to file [2:58:09, 2:58:26]: Well we still hold on to files where that have not been resolved and the community. Um it's uh uh widely known that traffic stops involving a outstanding warrant can be considered more dangerous than a regular traffic or routine stop. [2:58:26, 2:58:32]: And so um this would address that as well and the general lack of trust in the justice system. [2:58:34, 2:58:41]: The benefits again is um to individuals helping to avoid arrest and potential jail time, resolve cases without the penalties. [2:58:41, 2:58:45]: Having a clean record and offering the community a fresh start. [2:58:45, 2:59:05]: Uh, with the court, we will be able to recoup revenues that are owed to us. Again, the efficient use of resources, community improved public safety, and um we could prevent people from committing new offenses. Oh my PowerPoint. Sorry, I'm so sorry. I'm sleepy. [2:59:05, 2:59:11]: Huh, you got it. Thank you. I'm sorry. Um [2:59:12, 2:59:17]: reduced res criminal recidivism, people who are already suspended wouldn't [2:59:18, 2:59:21]: have the temptation of continuing to drive if they [2:59:21, 2:59:33]: Um were made aware again that they have an outstanding offense and we're given the opportunity to address that and then just enhance community trust in the justice justice system, general just goodwill. [2:59:35, 2:59:40]: Okay, and so we are recommending that the program be [2:59:40, 3:00:00]: made available to everyone who has a traffic violation, a city ordinance violation, um misdemeanors, um any sort of citation or case in municipal court that is in FTA status. Of course the school safety zone would not be included. Um we don't really um [3:00:00, 3:00:13]: manage that anyway. We just do the hearings for it. The time frame again September 1st through September 30th. And what's being waived would be the hundred dollar FTA fee. [3:00:15, 3:00:24]: And the hundred and fifty dollar warrant fee waived if the fine is paid in f in full, we wouldn't be lifting warrants for people unless they came into court. [3:00:24, 3:00:44]: Um, they could either walk in or just contact us and schedule a hearing during our business hours. And um if they miss that next court date, we would just reinstate the fee. Individuals would have to pay in full by credit or debit card andor money order, and probation would be uh available to those. [3:00:44, 3:00:48]: that were eligible just like regular probation operates right now. [3:01:01, 3:01:21]: Implementation. Um the court would send out letters to everyone who has an outstanding traffic citation. Uh we would do text message and um work with our PIO to have it announced on our social media outlets as well as the court's website. Um we would also uh arrange additional court cases. [3:01:21, 3:01:32]: calendars if necessary. And I just want to highlight that this is an this initiative is common to municipal courts, courts that have done it recently, Atlanta, Brookhaven, Chambly. [3:01:33, 3:01:40]: You see the list there, Douglasville, Dorville, Duluth, Forest Park, Lovejoy, South Fulton, Stonecrest, Wood, Woodstock are just a few. [3:01:41, 3:01:46]: And from my research, um, courts are able to clear five to twenty five percent. [3:01:46, 3:01:53]: of um old citations. That's closing them and uh getting those funds. [3:01:53, 3:02:01]: And finally, there are no additional costs associated with the program other than the postage we will use to mail the letters. So in summary [3:02:03, 3:02:23]: Uh an amnesty program in in the city of Stockbridge would create a positive impact on individuals, on the court, in our community by giving individuals a fresh start and assisting with clearing cases, and it would just foster a sense of accessibility and equity within the justice system. And that's all I have. [3:02:23, 3:02:25]: Mm-hmm. Questions? [3:02:26, 3:02:33]: I'd like to make a motion to approve the amnesty program proposed as presented by the Ms. Municipal Court. [3:02:34, 3:02:38]: Yes. Okay, m Mr Berry secondary. All favor please indicate. [3:02:39, 3:02:42]: Yeah, it's a season. Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you. [3:02:43, 3:02:50]: All right, uh council consideration to approve selection of an entertainer attorney. I'm assuming uh Sean, you have this? [3:02:58, 3:03:02]: Uh uh Mayor. Yes, ma'am. Is this a personnel matter? [3:03:03, 3:03:23]: It I would say it probably is. Okay. Uh but I like to move this to the personnel to the executive session. I know we have one other thing we have to talk about in the executive session real quick with the development authority, but if it's selecting a entertainment lawyer, then this may need to go under the executive session as well. Or personnel real estate. [3:03:23, 3:03:24]: and liga litigation. [3:03:26, 3:03:28]: It doesn't fall under under those mail. [3:03:29, 3:03:35]: You don't think it falls under personnel? We always talk personnel in executive session. [3:03:35, 3:03:38]: For a contractor? Mm-hmm. Oh, okay. Well [3:03:40, 3:03:40]: For legal. [3:03:41, 3:03:44]: I mean that's just what we normally would do. [3:03:45, 3:03:48]: Okay, so what happened I'm sorry, Mayor Forrest. Go ahead, please. [3:03:48, 3:03:52]: This next item was a council discussion of the city manager spending [3:03:52, 3:03:57]: Which item number are we on? Five six six six no oh okay, sorry. [3:03:58, 3:04:04]: And then we come out and then we vote on who that person is that we select. [3:04:07, 3:04:11]: Ms. Edmondson, you heard that? I I did. Okay. Okay. [3:04:11, 3:04:15]: Council, that's uh make sure that we're rest of the council, you good with that? [3:04:16, 3:04:24]: Yes, yes, yeah. Well we got no yes, yes, sir, we got a discussion. What what were you planning on doing? [3:04:25, 3:04:29]: Uh yes, we had a recommendation. I was trying to find my stuff in my package. [3:04:30, 3:04:31]: Number six. [3:04:41, 3:04:55]: Mayor Ford. Yes, ma'am. Can we um take care of number seven before we go into executive session? Yeah we we plan to to discuss. We we plan to. I had uh it's missing a sheet. Is it [3:04:55, 3:04:57]: Yeah, what I don't see it in here either. [3:05:01, 3:05:03]: I'm gonna leave it at easy. [3:05:04, 3:05:12]: It doesn't uh leave it at P it's No, it was a actual another form that had the three on there. And it's the uh [3:05:14, 3:05:15]: Okay. [3:05:16, 3:05:28]: Okay. So we're gonna discuss this in the second session then. We can.'Cause you don't you don't have anything present to us right now, is that correct? Correct. Okay.'Cause we I had the name and the and the breakdown is just not inside here'cause it wasn't I guess provided enough time. [3:05:30, 3:05:39]: So we'll go to the next session. We have to we'll go to the second session and discuss that then. Okay. All right, sir. And I imagine our legal attorney here. Is that all right with you, sir? [3:05:40, 3:05:51]: Okay. All right. Uh number seven discussion. Council discussion of city manager's spending authority, returning to the spending and contracting author authority up to uh twenty five thousand without city council approval. [3:05:51, 3:05:54]: And Mayor Ford. Yes, ma'am. [3:05:54, 3:05:55]: Okay. [3:05:55, 3:06:02]: This was an item that I requested to add to the agenda um because you were spending an approving contract for the [3:06:03, 3:06:17]: amphitheater and concerts, um, but I don't think it's necessary now that we have a new city manager. I think we need to allow him the opportunity to show us um that he can be fiscally responsible and I believe that he will be. [3:06:19, 3:06:32]: All right, so otherwise to uh remove this from the agenda. Okay, you made a motion to a sec ms again second all in favor indicate? [3:06:33, 3:06:35]: Okay, so now she says, [3:06:36, 3:06:41]: Well, what was what was the motion? The motion to remove this item from the agenda. Okay, thank you. [3:06:43, 3:06:54]: So for m to so for Mr Alzheimer Ms. Gantt all all approved? Okay. Um announcements oncoming meeting events. I'm s I'm sorry, Miss [3:06:56, 3:06:57]: Okay, all right. [3:06:59, 3:07:18]: Upcoming meetings and uh meetings and announcements, uh council meetings will be held in the council chamber. Uh city council chamber meeting dates and location times are subject to change or contact city hall offices at seven seven zero three eight nine seventy nine hundred or visit the website of www.stockbridgega.org flow dates. [3:07:19, 3:07:39]: Citywide Development Authority, a meeting is held on the second Tuesday of each month in the Levi meeting room and the next meeting is August six PM. Next meeting is August twelfth. Community zoning information meeting has been canceled for this month. The third and final uh military public hearing and adoption has been rescheduled and will take place on Monday. [3:07:39, 3:07:59]: August 18th to 10 a.m. in the city council chambers. The downtown development authority meetings are held on the third Tuesday of each month in the Downtown Connection Center, 130 ML King Heritage, Senior Heritage Trail, and that'll be 6 p.m. on August 19th. The Youth Council Advisory Committee meeting will be held on the third Tuesday. [3:07:58, 3:08:18]: Tuesday of each month, City Hall, leave our room at 6:30 on once again on August 19th. The Planning Commission meeting is canceled for this month, and the City Council work session meeting will be held on the last Tuesday of each month in the City Hall Council Chambers, which will be August 26th. Upcoming, upcoming, ooh, upcoming city events and initiatives. [3:08:19, 3:08:39]: Join Main Street for the Tiny Tent Concert Series Friday, 6 p.m. to 8 p.m. on at the Stockbridge Connection Center, 130 ML King Heritage, Senior Heritage Trail. Bring you long chairs, of course. And uh join Councilman Thomas and Councilman Berry for partnership for the month monthly Bingo Bash on Wednesday, August. [3:08:39, 3:08:53]: August 20th from 10 a.m. to 12 noon, Merrill Manor's Conference Center. Join Mayor Pro Tem Gamp for a free line dancing class on Wednesday, August 20th from 6 p.m. to 8 p.m. in Merrill Manor's Concerts Concert Conference Center. [3:08:54, 3:09:14]: Bring your own fan. I join Mayor Anthony Ford for a monthly meeting the mayor on Monday, August 25th from 10 a.m. to 12 noon in the city hall. And meetings are by appointment. The Economic Development Department hosts a free business health clinic on the second Thursday of each month from 9 a.m. to 12 uh noon. The Stockbridge Connection Center, 130 ML King Hand. [3:09:14, 3:09:34]: Heritage Senior Heritage Trail and check the health of your businesses with this free clinic. Sign up for real-time alerts about severe weather and road closures and emergencies on the regroup app. Visit the city's website or social media pages for more information on how and where to sign up. Stay safe. Municipal election qualifying [3:09:34, 3:09:54]: Qualifying takes place on Monday, August 18th to Friday, August 22nd, uh from 8 30 to uh 4 30 p.m. And of course the the clerk's office will be closed from 12 to 1 for lunch. More information is available on the city clerk's department page and the city's website at Subbridge G A.org. Please contact [3:09:53, 3:10:13]: Roslin Rawls to schedule an appointment to meet the mayor. For more information on the council initiatives is 678-833-3348 by way of email, ralls at starbridgega.org. The remaining 2025 concert season, Saturday, August uh 16th, Stockbridge Jazz Festival holds. [3:10:13, 3:10:33]: Hosted by Tommy Davison, featuring David Bignall, Jazz Fung F soul, EFX All-Stars, Sandra Corelli, Sony Emory, Norman Brown, Jennifer Holliday, Karen Briggs, Eric Darris, and Kiko Matsui. Saturday, August 30th, Jimmy Jam and Toy Lewis celebrating 40 years. [3:10:33, 3:10:53]: Iconic music featuring performances by Ruben Studdard, Deborah Cox, MC Light, Jordan Knight, Elon Adams, Shantae Moore, Morresday, and Jerome Benton, Sherelle and Ann Nisby, and probably some additional folks that we don't know about thus far. Saturday, September 13th, for Lovers and Friends, featuring Tank with special guests Leif Jennings. [3:10:53, 3:11:13]: And Jenny Wine. Saturday, uh September 6th, and Sunday, September 7th, Southern Soul weekend featuring King George, Tucker, Westlaw, Pokebear, TK Soul, Tawan Moore, and Antonio Armeni. For my comments, obviously the summer has ended, per se. Our practical purposes school is back in order. [3:11:13, 3:11:33]: So the kids are back in school. So wish them well. And uh in this aspect for getting educated and parents and adults, be sure to make sure that when you go through these past the school, that there is a s there's a speed camera there called a red speed uh zone cam red zone speed camera. So if you're going too fast, you will get ticketed. And so uh [3:11:33, 3:11:52]: So be careful going through those school zones. And for your football fans, football is here. As uh we look forward to uh rooting on our favorite team for this foot football season. And high school's on Friday night. There you go. [3:11:53, 3:12:13]: So excuse me, so uh council we have uh zego session to talk about uh real estate uh personnel or legal issues as well as cybersecurity issues. Need a motion to go into zeker session, please. So moved. Okay for Miss Cancer. For real estate personnel litigation and sub and cybersecurity. Second um and Mr. Alzheimer's second down all fair, please indicate. [3:12:13, 3:12:15]: decision. We're going to say we'll be back folks in a little bit. [3:13:20, 3:13:21]: [11605.6, 11609.8]: We're still live, correct? Okay. [3:13:31, 3:13:35]: Council, I need a motion to end the second session, please. So moved. [3:13:35, 3:13:36]: Is there a second? [3:13:37, 3:13:57]: Okay, from Mr. Uh Berry to Miss Barber. Motion has been made. Uh I need to all all in favor, indicate, please indicate. Unanimous decision. Now I need a motion to reconvene our council meeting, please. So move. Okay, is there a second? Second. Okay, from Miss Uh Gantt to Mr. Barber, Mr. [3:13:57, 3:14:15]: Berry, I'm sorry, our in favor, please indicate. Okay, and from our second session, we have something we need to bring forward. Mr. Berry? Yes, I'd like to make a motion that the city of Stockbridge enter a contract with uh Walker and Associates to handle our uh contracts. [3:14:16, 3:14:31]: Second. For entertainment. For entertainment. Entertainment. Entertainment contracts. Okay. Okay. From uh Mr. Barrett and Mr. Alzheimer's are all in favor, please indicate. Now I need a motion to end our council meeting for the this evening. So moved. Sir second. [3:14:32, 3:14:35]: Okay, from Ms. Gantt to Mr. Berry, all in favor, please indicate. [3:14:35, 3:14:38]: Okay, we're adjourned. God bless you all. Thank you. [3:14:43, 3:14:45]: Mm, mm, mm.

--- title: Millage Rate Public Hearing date: 2025-08-11 source: 2025-08-11_Millage_Rate_Public_Hearing.wav --- [0:01:35, 0:01:38]: Yeah. [0:01:39, 0:01:41]: Good that's [0:01:42, 0:01:59]: Alright ladies and gentlemen, uh let me put the mic on. Alright, ladies and gentlemen. Uh what we'll do we get our second um millage rate public hearing uh started. And now have 6 30. It is a Monday, August 11th. Please uh [0:01:59, 0:02:03]: Excuse me, I'll call the meeting order. Please stand for the invocation, if you can. Ms. Gantt. [0:02:05, 0:02:07]: May we bow our heads in prayer. [0:02:08, 0:02:11]: Lord, we pray for unity and peace in our community. [0:02:11, 0:02:16]: Help us to see each other as brothers and sisters and to work together for the common good. [0:02:17, 0:02:37]: We pray for healing and restoration in our community for those who are sick, hurting, and struggling. May they find comfort and strength in your love and grace. Heavenly Father, we also pray for provision and protection for our community, that we that you would meet the needs of all of your people and keep them safe. [0:02:37, 0:02:38]: From harm. [0:02:38, 0:02:46]: We pray for our leaders that they would be filled with wisdom and discernment as they make decisions that affect our community. [0:02:46, 0:02:50]: Guide them to lead with integrity and with compassion. [0:02:50, 0:03:10]: In these things we pray our to our Lord and Savior. Amen. Amen. Okay. For the Pledge of Allegiance. Pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. In the truth of your father, I want you to stand one nation under God in divisible of liberty and justice for all. [0:03:11, 0:03:13]: Madam Clerk, Rocall, please. [0:03:20, 0:03:22]: Present. Mayor Pro Tem Ganttz. [0:03:24, 0:03:26]: Present. Sorry. [0:03:30, 0:03:31]: Member Berry. [0:03:34, 0:03:35]: Various kind of thing. [0:03:36, 0:03:40]: Present. Councilmember Alex and Present. Mayor Ford and Count. [0:03:40, 0:03:41]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate that. [0:03:42, 0:03:45]: Um council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:03:45, 0:03:51]: So move. Oh is there a second? A second. Okay, from uh Mr. Alexander to Miss Barber. [0:03:51, 0:03:52]: Yeah. [0:03:52, 0:04:08]: I s she had her hand up. Okay. She had her hand up. Okay. All in favor, please indicate. Okay. It's unanimous decision. On that note, a public hearing, uh 2025 Millage Rate, presented by Ms. Ms. Mulazzi, sir. [0:04:08, 0:04:11]: Ms. Mulazi, ladies and gentlemen, is our our treasurer. [0:04:18, 0:04:20]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Uh good evening, sir. [0:04:21, 0:04:25]: Uh, this is our second public hearing for marriage rate. [0:04:27, 0:04:33]: And after this we'll have one and the final one on the eighteenth at ten AM. [0:04:35, 0:04:55]: Tax rate is the amount of tax billed based on the fair market value of property using the marriage rate. And the marriage rate is set annually by the governing board. Also, in this uh area you have the school districts that they also have the authority. [0:04:55, 0:05:00]: So they have also to set the mirrorage rate. [0:05:01, 0:05:05]: And the marriage rate is based on the assessed values. [0:05:07, 0:05:09]: Rollback is the [0:05:12, 0:05:21]: Rawback is the the it's required that every year you have m marriage rate, you have to bring back the cost [0:05:22, 0:05:24]: or the rate of the marriage [0:05:25, 0:05:27]: To make sure that you levy [0:05:27, 0:05:29]: The same amount of money [0:05:29, 0:05:32]: You left the previous year. [0:05:32, 0:05:52]: Thinking that the values of properties will be the same. However, that does not happen in many areas or in many circumstances for these two main reasons. One, the values of properties they go up annually, and the other [0:05:52, 0:06:01]: One is the increase of properties within the community or within the city that brings up the value. [0:06:02, 0:06:22]: values of the properties to go up. So if you apply the same marriage rate, that means you levy more. Therefore you are required to roll back. If you levy the same, that means there may be an increase which is in our case [0:06:22, 0:06:25]: There's no rollback. [0:06:27, 0:06:47]: So the values of our tax digest have gone up from twenty twenty-four to twenty twenty-five now. In twenty twenty-four the values of marriage re the um tax digest were up to um one point nine four [0:06:47, 0:06:55]: And this year twenty twenty five it has gone up to two point one billion dollars. [0:06:58, 0:07:18]: Which is an increase of five point six percent for those reasons that I've said some because of the new property that have been uh built within the city, or so the values of the properties have gone up. You not see the values unless maybe [0:07:18, 0:07:24]: your home is to be sold. When you sell your if you were to sell your home last year, [0:07:25, 0:07:38]: and sell the home this year, you were going to pay to receive more money in this year compared to what you would have received last year, an indication of values going up. [0:07:41, 0:08:01]: With the recommended marriage rate to stay as it is three point seven seven that has been levied since the introduction of levy in the seat of Stockbridge, which was twenty twenty-three three point seven seven, twenty twenty-four three point seven seven, and now it's recommended again. [0:08:01, 0:08:21]: going to leave it there at 3.77. And that is bringing up, even though the marriage rate is the same, but with that raw back not being implemented, it's termed as tax increase. But there's no tax increase in a real sense. [0:08:21, 0:08:25]: three point seven seven for three executive years. [0:08:26, 0:08:46]: And also remember that the city implemented last year the Homestead exemption that has been implemented in 2025. So for those that took advantage of Homestead exemption, they will see big reduction of their taxes. [0:08:46, 0:09:06]: Those that have not, they are encouraged to apply when the new session starts. That will be January 1, 2026 through 1st of April 2026. You see the benefit of applying a homestead exemption, homestead exemption. [0:09:06, 0:09:26]: And to those that have already applied they will have the benefits. And those ones that have not, please do so. Every homeowner of the city is eligible. Everyone. If you have a home in the city of Stockbridge, you are eligible to receive a homestead exemption. [0:09:26, 0:09:45]: Basic, which is the 10,000. If you are a homeowner, regardless of your age, you receive 10,000. And if you are 65 years and above, you receive additional 15,000. If you have [0:09:46, 0:10:06]: septic tank on your property, you receive fifteen thousand, but you cannot receive both fifteen thousand for age and fifteen thousand for uh septic tank. You can get only one fifteen thousand plus the basic ten for a total of twenty five thousand. [0:10:14, 0:10:18]: Why do we want the marriage rate to remain where it is? [0:10:20, 0:10:21]: Why? [0:10:22, 0:10:28]: Are we asking or recommending to have the same marriage rate of three point seven seven to remain? [0:10:28, 0:10:48]: Because the city wants to continue to providing the same services that the citizens have been enjoying in last year, and that includes the provision of public works services, police department services. [0:10:48, 0:10:51]: and various improvement [0:10:52, 0:11:00]: That's to include roads, construction, maintenance throughout the city. Those services. [0:11:01, 0:11:03]: Our governing body wants them to continue. [0:11:04, 0:11:06]: Плас економік девопмент проєкте. [0:11:07, 0:11:27]: That will attract new business owners, including potential business owners that they want to relocate to our city. So that maintenance of 3.77 will help to retain those services provided to you. [0:11:27, 0:11:28]: citizens. [0:11:31, 0:11:37]: Here's a calculation of two examples that have been given [0:11:37, 0:11:39]: Just in case you have uh [0:11:39, 0:11:44]: A home of hundred thousand, two hundred thousand, three hundred thousand, [0:11:44, 0:11:47]: and so on and so forth, the calculation is the same. [0:11:48, 0:11:51]: Let's say you have a home of a hundred thousand. [0:11:51, 0:11:57]: Calculation of marriage rate is based on the market value. [0:11:58, 0:12:14]: of 40% of the market value. So 40% of the 100,000 will give us assessed value of 40,000. That 40,000 assessed value, if you remove the basic homestead exemption, [0:12:15, 0:12:30]: Everything on the left hand side does not include homestead exemption reduction. Everything that is on the right side it does include homestead exemption and is in red. [0:12:31, 0:12:51]: So if there's no homestead exemption, that forty thousand we multiply it by uh three point seven seven, which is our marriage rate, and it brings us to a hundred and fifty dollars and eighty cents, that will be your annual taxes for the year. If you want to [0:12:51, 0:12:54]: To pay monthly, divide that by twelve. [0:12:54, 0:13:12]: And on the right hand side, the very same property of hundred thousand, market value of forty, assessed value will be forty thousand. That assessed value of forty remove ten thousand, that is the basic homestead exemption. [0:13:12, 0:13:15]: You remain with thirty thousand. [0:13:15, 0:13:35]: That thirty thousand will be your taxable value di timus three point seven seven mils and it makes brings to hundred and thirteen dollars and ten cents. That's what you pay per year. If you had applied and you had [0:13:35, 0:13:36]: A basic [0:13:36, 0:13:39]: Homestead exemption of ten thousand. [0:13:39, 0:13:42]: So if you didn't apply you pay hundred and fifty [0:13:42, 0:13:48]: and eighty, if you applied the bas one you get hundred and thirteen [0:13:48, 0:13:49]: And ten cents. [0:13:53, 0:13:59]: The second example will be if you got both the basic, which is ten thousand. [0:13:59, 0:14:01]: Plus either it was [0:14:03, 0:14:10]: Septic tank or UR sixty-five and above. On the left side, it remains the same. [0:14:11, 0:14:12]: Uh but on the [0:14:12, 0:14:14]: Right hand side. [0:14:14, 0:14:34]: The same value of hundred thousand, market value times forty, it gives you forty thousand, and that forty thousand minus total homestead exemption of twenty-five thousand, you remain with fifteen thousand. Fifteen thousand times three point seven. [0:14:34, 0:14:54]: You get$56.55 for the annual taxes. You see if you didn't apply, you will pay$150. If you applied and you qualified both of those ones, you pay$56 and there is a saving of 94. [0:14:54, 0:15:01]: those advantages of your homestead exemption. You just have to claim it by applying. [0:15:04, 0:15:06]: I have also added the [0:15:08, 0:15:13]: different amount of home, say it's three hundred thousand home. [0:15:13, 0:15:16]: Uh the calculation will be the same on the left hand side. [0:15:17, 0:15:20]: Uh that's three hundred times forty. [0:15:21, 0:15:23]: percent you get hundred and twenty [0:15:24, 0:15:27]: thousand, hundred and twenty thousand becomes taxable value. [0:15:28, 0:15:31]: That one taxable value times the three point [0:15:31, 0:15:33]: Seven seven. [0:15:33, 0:15:41]: You get four hundred and fifty-two dollars and forty cents out of your three hundred thousand home. [0:15:42, 0:15:47]: And if you did the basic homestead exemption on the left hand side. [0:15:48, 0:15:55]: Uh forty times the three hundred still hundred and twenty, minus ten, you get hundred and ten. [0:15:55, 0:16:00]: Hundred and ten thousand times three point seven seven. [0:16:01, 0:16:04]: You get four hundred and fourteen seventy. [0:16:04, 0:16:05]: But yeah. [0:16:06, 0:16:12]: And you still have that difference of thirty seven dollars and seventy cents. [0:16:13, 0:16:17]: compared it to the one that he did not apply. [0:16:17, 0:16:19]: And the last example [0:16:20, 0:16:28]: will be on the same home of three hundred thousand on the left hand side it will be still the same amount [0:16:28, 0:16:32]: Of four hundred and fifty two and forty cents. [0:16:33, 0:16:37]: On the right hand side, three hundred thousand times four. [0:16:37, 0:16:46]: Forty, it's hundred and twenty, hundred and twenty minus twenty-five thousand, you remain with ninety-five thousand. [0:16:46, 0:16:52]: ninety five thousand times three point seven seven you get three hundred and fifty eight [0:16:52, 0:16:54]: And fifteen cents. [0:16:54, 0:17:03]: versus four hundred and fifty two forty cents. You save ninety-four dollars and twenty-five cents a year. [0:17:05, 0:17:08]: The next one is the tax digest. [0:17:10, 0:17:18]: Tax digest is the a comparison of sources of taxes. So you have real. [0:17:20, 0:17:32]: Or personal property you have uh motor vehicle as you know that we have to pay or levy taxes on the motor vehicles that we have. Then you have mobile homes [0:17:32, 0:17:37]: А then we have timber, heavy duty equipment. [0:17:38, 0:17:40]: That will bring us to gross [0:17:42, 0:17:43]: Digest. [0:17:43, 0:17:51]: And that digest is the one that for the past three years, in twenty twenty three it was one point eight billion. [0:17:52, 0:17:54]: In twenty twenty [0:17:54, 0:18:12]: for it was one point nine billion. And in this year 2025, our gross gross before we remove ev anything, it's two point one billion for the very same reasons that we talked about that [0:18:12, 0:18:28]: In these properties we talked about, there have been some additions, be it we have more vehicles, we have more property uh personal uh or real estate, uh those ones will bring up to the gross. Then from the gross we have to remove [0:18:29, 0:18:32]: uh reductions. We have to make some reductions. [0:18:33, 0:18:38]: And those reductions, the bigger one will be the very same homestead exemptions. [0:18:39, 0:18:59]: Last year or year before we had homestead exemptions but they were very minor compared to this year. Uh some of those ones that you don't levy taxes, I'll give example would be churches. We have churches throughout the city, you don't levy taxes on that. [0:18:59, 0:19:19]: But this year the council gave everyone who has home in the city to have homestead exemption. So our homestead exemptions have grown from 44,000 last year to 119,000. It's a lot. [0:19:19, 0:19:25]: loss of revenues but again it's a relief of paying taxes to the citizen. [0:19:27, 0:19:36]: And with that uh you find out that um twenty twenty three three point seven [0:19:36, 0:19:43]: Mills twenty twenty four, three point seven miles and twenty twenty five, still the same. [0:19:44, 0:20:03]: Uh in twenty twenty three we levied six point eight million, twenty twenty four seven point uh one million and in seven uh twenty twenty five we're expecting to receive seven point three million. [0:20:03, 0:20:13]: It does not mean we are going to receive everything. That's a projection because some of the taxes will not be paid for several reasons. [0:20:17, 0:20:24]: Uh then we have uh so we can say clearly say that the only increase in taxes [0:20:25, 0:20:28]: Removing everything is a hundred and thirty one thousand. [0:20:29, 0:20:41]: Uh out of that hundred and thirty-one thousand, remove the hundred and nineteen thousand that has gone for homestead exemption. So real taxes in twenty twenty-three. [0:20:41, 0:20:43]: Increase was a hundred percent. [0:20:44, 0:20:49]: The reason is that it was the start, it was an initial year, so it was [0:20:49, 0:20:53]: hundred percent tax because it had never been there before. [0:20:53, 0:20:59]: And the twenty twenty four last year increase was uh four point four percent. [0:21:00, 0:21:01]: And in this year. [0:21:02, 0:21:03]: That we are requesting [0:21:04, 0:21:06]: To retain the males [0:21:06, 0:21:13]: On three point seven seven the increase is only one point eight three percent. [0:21:14, 0:21:19]: With that, if I have any comment questions from the governing body [0:21:19, 0:21:20]: This is the time. [0:21:20, 0:21:31]: Thank you, Frank, for your presentation. Uh ladies and gentlemen, I want to listen to let you know that the Henry Cannon Task Commission, Mr. Michael Harris, is also present here tonight as well. And on that note, uh Council. [0:21:32, 0:21:33]: Questions. [0:21:33, 0:21:53]: Go ahead, Mr. I don't have a question, just a comment. Um I think that uh we had a hearing earlier this morning and um it was pretty much the consensus of council that our millage rate is gonna stay the same, therefore we are not increasing taxes. Our millage rate will remain three point seven seven. It's been that way since twenty twenty three. [0:21:53, 0:22:13]: Um in 2022 we did not have any property taxes. So we are keeping it at, as far as I I know, I think the majority of us have already spoken out that we are going to remain at 3.77. And in fact, our taxes, if you live in the city limits, are cheaper than the [0:22:13, 0:22:33]: those if who live in unincorporated Henry. Um and so nothing's going to change with that. Um if your property tax is increase at all, it's due to your value of your property. It's not anything that mayor and counselor are doing on our end. We're keeping our millage the same. And so [0:22:33, 0:22:34]: So um [0:22:34, 0:22:36]: That's something that [0:22:36, 0:22:40]: I just really wanted to point out in in regards to the tax digest [0:22:41, 0:23:00]: um for real and personal property, you'll see that there's an increase each year, but that is based off of new properties and properties more development coming in, more townhomes, more single family dwellings, and the and that's the way it's listed there in regards to that. You'll see that, but [0:23:00, 0:23:20]: Other than that, our millage stays the same. And we have a rollback due to police services. And so I think that's a good thing. Um we are we've been really steadfast on that. I believe that Marin Cow, it is in my position that we've been taxed to death. And I believe that my colleagues believe that as well. Um and so [0:23:20, 0:23:23]: Just letting you know we're not voting for an increase. [0:23:24, 0:23:34]: On that note, the uh third hearing, after tonight, third hearing would be ten o'clock on the eighteenth of August and after at the end of that meeting, we'll make an official uh vote on this aspect as well. [0:23:34, 0:23:37]: Mm. One second. Go ahead, Ms. Barber. [0:23:37, 0:23:54]: Mr. Malazi, can you also um provide that breakdown of the total number of applicants for each of the categories, septic systems, sixty-five years and older, and just a general exemption? So [0:23:56, 0:24:00]: Total applicants for the twenty twenty [0:24:01, 0:24:12]: five homestead exemptions that we closed on the first of April, we had the 1,729 applicants. [0:24:14, 0:24:34]: Almost everyone that applied so far, there's no one that was disqualified. As I said that there were three groups or three categories. Everyone you have home, you are homeowner, you qualify the basic of ten thousand. Just being a homeowner in the city, you qualify. [0:24:34, 0:24:52]: qualify that 10,000. The second one is you have to be 65 or you have a s you have to have a septic tank. So far we had 770, those that applied that they have septic tank in the city. [0:24:53, 0:24:55]: And the we will [0:24:55, 0:25:15]: continue to providing some information that will be needed. We'll give who how many of those ones are 65? Things like those ones. But so far it's 1729 that applied and none was rejected. If there will be anything we [0:25:15, 0:25:28]: see when tax bills are out, but so far when we work with the tax assessor and the our tax commissioner, we are everyone that applied so far, none has been rejected. [0:25:30, 0:25:30]: Go right, please. [0:25:31, 0:25:37]: If you would, Mr. Melazie, please reiterate to the community the timeline of when. [0:25:38, 0:25:46]: All homeowners can submit applications for their homestead exemption because I want them to take advantage of this. This is a discount. [0:25:46, 0:25:48]: If you are a homeowner. [0:25:49, 0:25:55]: you already qualify for one of the homestead exemptions. All you gotta do is submit your application. [0:25:55, 0:26:15]: The second one with the sixty five years and older, and then the third one with the septic system. You have to have a septic tank on your property, you have ten thousand. You have to be sixty-five years or older, you have fifteen thousand, or you have to be a homeowner, that is ten thousand. [0:26:15, 0:26:35]: But you cannot have both septic tank and 65 and above. You can get only 115,000. So we will this year will be much much area to publicize. It will be posted on our website. We'll send fryers. [0:26:35, 0:26:55]: You unfortunately you have a lot of people from uncorporated area that are using our uh zip code of three zero two eight one that are calling in because either they have septic tank or they are older than sixty uh five. The fact that you are using that [0:26:55, 0:27:01]: address if you do not pay taxes to the city of Stockbridge, you don't qualify. [0:27:02, 0:27:20]: And we make sure you call in we'll tell you exactly where you are. If you are in an incorporated area will tell you uh you don't qualify because you do not pay taxes to city of Stockbridge. You don't pay taxes to any city besides the county. [0:27:21, 0:27:41]: So for those that are homeowners, please take advantage of that. And most of them they will call in. I was out, or my my parents, this and that. Time frame of application is January 1 through September, uh, April 1. On Fool's Day, don't forget Fool's Day. [0:27:40, 0:27:46]: day is the closing of the homestead exemption. So you can't forget that. [0:27:50, 0:27:51]: Mr. Alzheimer, you have some comments, sir? [0:27:51, 0:28:05]: Yeah, thank you so much. I appreciate that. And based on what you just said, I did some uh math calculations here. Uh on based on that four hundred and fourteen dollar uh [0:28:07, 0:28:27]: for the three hundred thousand dollar house at four hundred and fourteen dollars and seventy cents. The total tax increase for the city was a hundred and thirty-one dollars one hundred and thirty one thousand six hundred and four. If you multiply that times the one point three net increase [0:28:27, 0:28:33]: That means basically it's about$7.58 per home. [0:28:34, 0:28:54]: which is a a minimal or negligible um uh increase total. Basically as Ms. Gann has said um and we've all reiterated we're we're planning to vote to leave it at three point seven seven'cause that seems uh the the appropriate thing to do and we have to pay these taxes [0:28:54, 0:29:14]: uh in the city just like each and every one of you uh have to do as well. Uh later on you will hear from the tax commissioner and who will come up and talk to us a little bit because we did that at the first meeting uh as well because we got more people here tonight who need to hear about the potential one cent [0:29:14, 0:29:34]: Sales tax that's going to go on the ballot to uh this in November if all goes well. That particular portion will be used to pay down to zero, hopefully, this uh new city tax that came into preparation. But it's gonna be up to the voters. If you vote yes, then this new city. [0:29:34, 0:29:54]: New tax will be used to eliminate the city tax portion of your bill. If you vote no, we'll go ahead and continue with the same basis that we're doing. And I always like to say this at the meeting that we had earlier, which is we implemented a police department in 2022, and we took four [0:29:54, 0:30:01]: $4 million out of the city savings, so you wouldn't have a uh a property tax in 2022. [0:30:01, 0:30:21]: We ba we gave you your money back. We gave you a refund, like the governor gives you the$250 refund. We gave the entire city four million dollars back in 2022, so you didn't have a property tax. And we were able to not have a property tax in 2022 and implement it in 2023 by giving you back the same. [0:30:21, 0:30:40]: that we had already recouped. But I'll say this again, I'll go to my grave understanding that if we made the right decision to start the police department because your public safety was number one with those 60 plus officers that we have on the street who are doing an amazing job, crime is down in the city. [0:30:40, 0:31:00]: And we're trying to do everything that we can to squeeze every nickel to make sure that these dollars are appropriated. We've made staff changes in order to make sure that every dollar is accounted for. And we believe in our new city manager, Mr. Shantez Edmondson, and the entire team and Mr. Malazi, and that we're on the right course now. Thank you. [0:31:01, 0:31:21]: You think okay, Ms. Blair, go ahead, please. Um again, thank you again, Mr. Malazi, for making this presentation. And I just want to really echo what I stated earlier for the morning's uh hearing at 10 a.m. this morning, is that our biggest uh obligation and responsibility is to make sure that we put the literature out for our citizens. [0:31:21, 0:31:41]: To make sure that they can apply for the uh homestead exemptions, the exemptions within the appropriate time frame, because this is a great uh benefit as well to the taxpayers. Um, right now we only had 1,729 applicants to take advantage of the homestead exemption, and so that doesn't. [0:31:41, 0:31:57]: doesn't really reflect the true population or the census of s of the city of Stockbridge. So we have a little bit more work to do to make sure that we spread that word, spread that message so that others uh can take advantage of this this uh tax option. And um [0:31:58, 0:32:12]: Again, if we can do whatever we need to do moving forward to make sure we put that literature out, put mailers out. Uh that's that's my that's my statement to everyone today, is just make sure we take advantage of everything that's being made available to the taxpayers. [0:32:12, 0:32:16]: Who do that, sir? Thank you. Mr. Edmondson, do you have any comments at this time, sir? [0:32:24, 0:32:44]: Uh, good evening, Mayor and Council and Community. I just want to uh reiterate because I don't think it resonates a lot with the people, uh, what this council is is offering. If you look at the municipalities around us, they having to increase their millage rate uh for several different reasons. But not only are we keeping the millage rate the same, but also offering a [0:32:44, 0:32:46]: Full blown out one hundred percent. [0:32:47, 0:32:49]: uh homestead exemption, which is [0:32:50, 0:33:10]: Rare, I must say, in this day and time. So as we mentioned earlier, we will ensure that every resident is aware of that homestead starting January 1st before January 1st. We're gonna have applications printed out here at City Hall. We're gonna uh have them at different meetings, different gatherings to make sure that everybody takes advantage of that. [0:33:10, 0:33:30]: I believe that is fantastic and people should take advantage of that. Um and as we talked about a little bit earlier, uh we do have the tax commissioner here talking about the flaws. So we are different definitely putting our brains together to try to find different ways to offset all the stuff and the taxes that we have here in the city. So I just want to commend this governing body. [0:33:30, 0:33:50]: In doing that, I know I kind of came in on the back end, but me looking at those numbers and figures, I think that is a bold move. That's a bold statement. But I think the city, uh, these residents deserve anything that we can give them, uh, especially in the direction that we are trying to go. Um, we are growing smart, we are building smart, and I just think that we'll be able to accomplish uh all that. [0:33:49, 0:34:09]: That we set out to do for 2026 by starting on a scroll foundation, and that's by keeping the resonance in mind when it comes to taxes. So I just want to commend the governor body for that. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Mr. Alexander. I'll just have one more brief comment. I want you to in 2023, the staff recommended a four point one two. [0:34:09, 0:34:11]: two five tax rate. [0:34:12, 0:34:32]: We did not select that. We selected a 3.77 tax rate because we knew the first year we were not going to be able to give you the homestead exemption. So in real in reality, you're getting a double homestead exemption because we put the homestead exemption in the 3.77 for the initial because we knew. [0:34:32, 0:34:52]: Knew we needed legislation in order to establish the homestead. So, what we've done on this second iteration is to give you the homestead exemption anyway, even though we selected the lower rate initially at 3.77. So the taxes were on the 3.77 amount was a significantly lower. [0:34:52, 0:35:12]: Lower than the 4.125. So we're giving you the home exemption even with the lower rate after staff after previous staff had recommended a higher initial rate. But we wanted to make sure that we were being uh that we implemented the minimum amount of tax uh up front, and that's what we want to continue to do. [0:35:12, 0:35:13]: Thank you. [0:35:13, 0:35:25]: Okay, before I read the public hearing rules and and allow the sensory to make their comments, I wanna offer the uh the opportunity for Mr. Harris to come forward if you need anything you need to say, sir, as a tax commissioner for Henry County. [0:35:30, 0:35:50]: Good evening again, Mayor, Mayor Pro Tem, Council members, public. Welcome to Mr. Edmondson. Welcome. Great to have you on board. Um yeah, as I mentioned this morning, I think there's some questions in reference to the splot and to the floss. But prior to get into that, I did want to just kind of reiterate that this year has been quite a bit different than previous years, in that we had some new legislation. [0:35:50, 0:36:10]: That we had to deal with. The residents voted for and it was approved the House Bill 581 that passed last year. And in so doing, what that did was it created an additional ad valorm or tax uh floating homestead exemption based on your valuation. People often ask me, [0:36:10, 0:36:30]: you know, how does that, how will that impact here, folks here in Henry County? So for the county taxes, as well everyone bear in mind that here in Henry County, we're one of 30 handful of counties, some 30 some counties, that offers a frozen provision, which means if you purchase your home in 2000 or 2010 and you applied for and were approved for your homestead. [0:36:30, 0:36:40]: the year you were approved for homestead, your property value was frozen at that level. So rather than what this new House Bill five eighty eighty one provision does [0:36:40, 0:37:00]: It caps the valuation increase of your property year over year. And then it's tied to the CPI, consumer price index, typically somewhere between three and five percent. So even taking that three percent. So I tell myself, well, you know, from a county's perspective, you're either looking at a maximum increase of of that three to five percent, or what we currently have in [0:37:00, 0:37:04]: place which is zero um because of the frozen provision. So [0:37:04, 0:37:05]: Um [0:37:05, 0:37:25]: But in so doing, because the county and all of the municipalities all four of the cities opted in based on the uh residents residence desires, that does make the cities and the county eligible for this um floating optional sales tax, uh flexible optional sales tax. [0:37:25, 0:37:45]: The FLOSS as it's being called, which is structured much in the same way as our current SPLOSS is, which is special project local option sales tax. Um this is a flexible local option sales tax. However, the big caveat here is that it can only be utilized to re as a re all revenues collected have to go towards reducing the [0:37:45, 0:38:05]: county or the municipalities millage rate. So all those funds that are collected has to go be applied towards the reduction of the millage rate, which I think was what um councilman Alcan alluded to. So right now it's my understanding that the county and the cities are in negotiations on what that will look like in the structure of that piece. But had not everyone agreed and [0:38:05, 0:38:12]: Opted in, then that provision of that option would not be on the table. But because everyone did, there is that that option does exist now. [0:38:13, 0:38:32]: The school board that while they did opt out of that provision, um, that was not a requirement based on the legislation. So p a lot of people ask'cause what about the school board? I understand they opted out, they did opt out, but they were not required to opt in in order to be for everyone else to be to remain eligible. So I'm sure if you had any specific questions in reference to the floss or not. [0:38:32, 0:38:34]: I just want to say. [0:38:35, 0:38:55]: As far as things are concerned, let's so everybody keep it in perspective. 60% of the tax digest is the school, correct? That's correct. So the school board opted out, which is the one cent sales tax that would be on the ballot would be used for county and city taxes to reduce those. But people will be like [0:38:55, 0:39:15]: Like, well, my taxes have been going up. The taxes have been going up because it's been tied to the 60% more than anything else. But certainly if you suggested the school board is trying to reduce the M and O, I believe, to try to offset some of that uh uh to uh some of that increase. Yeah, I was I attended their millage hearing this morning and [0:39:15, 0:39:35]: And they are proposing their first reduction since 2007 in their MO from 20 mils where it's been fixed at, where it's been capped at, and they are proposing a nineteen point eight mil rate, which will, again, will have an impact on everyone. The the big, the stark difference between the county tax and/or city taxes in this case is that the [0:39:35, 0:39:55]: Frozen provision while it applies to the county tax portion, which you creates about 36, 37%, it does not apply to the school portion. What they have instead is their age exemption beginning at age 62. Age 62, you have a it's a tiered system they have at age 62, it's your [0:39:55, 0:40:15]: Assessment value is reduced, it's reduced again at age sixty five, again at age sixty eight, and by age seventy, um any resident age seventy or over with an approved homestead no longer pays any um board of education taxes. So again, that's that's their the the the structure of their homestead exemption. Um the structure of the county's homestead exemption piece is the [0:40:14, 0:40:20]: [2420.4, 2422.1]: exemption that you put in place for this year. [0:40:22, 0:40:31]: Yeah, I j I just wanna keep it in perspective'cause see this room always seems a little bit full. And then the other two meetings at the county and the school board, there's nobody in there. [0:40:32, 0:40:33]: So thank you. [0:40:34, 0:40:36]: All right. Oh I'm sorry, go ahead, Ms. Bottom. [0:40:36, 0:40:38]: This is not a question for you. [0:40:38, 0:40:45]: Mr Harris, thank you. You're welcome. Um this is just a comment that I wanted to make. [0:40:46, 0:40:53]: So originally when the council adopted the millage rate, we were given a breakdown of [0:40:53, 0:41:02]: How the 3.77 mils rate would be used. I know that our police department does. [0:41:02, 0:41:05]: consume most of our operating budget. [0:41:06, 0:41:07]: However [0:41:08, 0:41:09]: It does not consume [0:41:09, 0:41:11]: All of the three point seven seven. [0:41:12, 0:41:13]: I want to go on record. [0:41:13, 0:41:14]: Right now. [0:41:15, 0:41:15]: Again. [0:41:16, 0:41:16]: And say. [0:41:17, 0:41:19]: I do not want to use his [0:41:19, 0:41:20]: Any. [0:41:20, 0:41:22]: Of the three point seven seven [0:41:22, 0:41:25]: Millage rate that is collected. [0:41:26, 0:41:27]: The city tax. [0:41:27, 0:41:29]: I do not support using any of it. [0:41:30, 0:41:32]: for the operations of the Sampatheater. [0:41:33, 0:41:39]: It is to be used for all of the other essential services of our city. [0:41:41, 0:41:42]: We have a responsibility. [0:41:43, 0:41:46]: We need to go out and look for sponsors. [0:41:46, 0:41:49]: for the operations of the amphitheater. [0:41:49, 0:41:51]: I wanted to put that on record. [0:41:52, 0:41:53]: I want the citizens to know. [0:41:54, 0:41:55]: This city tax. [0:41:56, 0:41:57]: І зналі [0:41:57, 0:41:59]: To fund our police department. [0:42:00, 0:42:03]: It is to fund other departments of our city public works. [0:42:04, 0:42:10]: and other departments. It should not be used for the amphitheater. [0:42:10, 0:42:11]: Unfortunately [0:42:12, 0:42:13]: I believe that was the case. [0:42:14, 0:42:16]: In the past, last year. [0:42:16, 0:42:17]: And then the year before. [0:42:18, 0:42:19]: I don't wanna see that happen. [0:42:19, 0:42:20]: Again. [0:42:21, 0:42:23]: That's all. I know that your presentation, Mr Malaze, [0:42:24, 0:42:27]: Thank you for it. It's very it's a simplified version. [0:42:28, 0:42:29]: Presentation. [0:42:29, 0:42:31]: For the public to comprehend. [0:42:31, 0:42:32]: And read it. [0:42:32, 0:42:34]: But it doesn't give a breakdown. [0:42:34, 0:42:37]: of how these taxes will be used. [0:42:38, 0:42:40]: And I just wanted to go on record with that. [0:42:40, 0:42:41]: Thank you. [0:42:42, 0:43:02]: Okay, council, no other uh questions. Now go into public hearing rules. Please mute all cell phones and electronic devices. If anyone wishes to speak tonight on a public hearing item, please fill out the form available on the table and hand it to the city clerk for approaching the podium. After each case is called, the council will hear from the city staff, followed by [0:43:02, 0:43:18]: applicant or the representatives regarding the proposed plans for property along with or any other relevant information. The council will be free to ask questions at any time before the vote. Following the applicant anyone who wishes to speak in favor or opposed to the case will have an opportunity to do so. [0:43:19, 0:43:37]: Each side will be allotted ten minutes total. Additional time may be extended at the discretion of the counsel. Please keep comments and presentation professional, referring only to the facts that are pertinent to the case. We will not allow comments or personal attacks toward any individual group. Please refrain from any applause or comments from the audience during the public hearing. [0:43:38, 0:43:58]: After the presiding officer recognizes the speaker, he or she shall direct all comments to the presiding officer, never to members of the council, staff, or audience. All comments will be made from the podium where you will be required to state your name and address for the record. Please note that these hearings are not a debate. Failure to comply will cause you to be removed from the chamber. [0:43:58, 0:44:02]: [2642.6, 2662.6]: Other than the applicant, no person may speak more than once. The applicant may reserve part or of his slash her speaking time as rebuttal and may speak next and last and may use the entire ten minutes allowed for the pro side of the application. If questions are raised, the counsel may ask the applicant to address questions andor concerns. [0:44:22, 0:44:42]: will call for a motion and second to the motion will have any necessary discussion. If the matter is not tabled, the presiding officer will call for the vote to recommend approval or denial of the request. So the public hearing is now open. I'm going to start on my left side. Anyone on the left side that has any comments for the the 3.77 or for the positive comments for [0:44:42, 0:45:02]: the presentation was given this evening on my very left side. Anybody in the middle? Positive comments for on my far right. Any comments? Okay. Seeing none. Oh any negative comment? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Positive comments. I'm sorry. Come on up. I see. Any other um positive comments? If not [0:45:02, 0:45:03]: Um [0:45:06, 0:45:08]: Come on up to the mic. Name and address, please. [0:45:13, 0:45:14]: Yeah, given reference. [0:45:17, 0:45:18]: I'm sorry. [0:45:20, 0:45:26]: N okay, okay, no problems. Okay, so all right, so any uh negative comments to the presentation and briefing from my very left side. [0:45:27, 0:45:47]: In the middle. Any any negative comments to the presentation? Okay. Before right. All right, seeing none. So otherwise I'll close the public hearing on that note. This is a uh that we'll end that. This is actually an informational session. Once again, we'll have this uh third public hearing on Miller's rate and um on the eighteenth of August at ten uh in the morning and we'll make a final [0:45:47, 0:45:56]: Decision at the end of that particular meeting. On that note, then I will say to you that I will well, I'll act for a motion to end our meeting. [0:45:56, 0:45:58]: Some moves. Is there a second? [0:45:58, 0:46:04]: Okay, from Miss Gantt uh to Mr. Berry. All fair, please indicate. Ladies and gentlemen, the meeting is now over. [0:46:04, 0:46:10]: Now I will tell you then give it a few minutes and we'll start our our regular council meeting for the evening. [0:46:10, 0:46:13]: Give it about five minutes and we'll we'll con uh start that particular meeting.

--- title: Work Session Meeting date: 2025-07-29 source: 2025-07-29_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:05:30, 0:05:40]: Well that's good. [0:05:53, 0:05:55]: That's you good. [0:06:01, 0:06:02]: Matrix. [0:06:24, 0:06:25]: Oh, thank you. [0:06:26, 0:06:30]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, I have uh six oh three. I'd like to start our [0:06:30, 0:06:35]: City Council work session, Tuesday, July twenty third. Call meeting to order. [0:06:36, 0:06:45]: Please stand for the invocation. Mr. Charles Marshall, please come to the mic, make sure the green light is on, and uh wish us well for tonight. [0:06:46, 0:06:47]: Let's go into prayer. [0:06:48, 0:06:59]: Merciful Father, we come before you once again in a most humble way, thanking you, Father God, for all that you are and all that you do. We thank you, Father God, for this day, a day not promised, Father God, nothing we've done to earn it. [0:07:00, 0:07:20]: But we understand it's only because of your goodness and your grace that you'll allow us to see it anyway. So now, Father God, we ask that you bless this meeting. Open our minds and hearts, Father God, to where we may listen and and understand what's going on in the creation that you made here in Stockbridge. Father God, we ask for a special blessing on all the council members, all and the mayor and all of the [0:07:19, 0:07:39]: Those that are here and their families, Father God, do we ask for a special blessing? So in the name of your darling son, Jesus that we send this prayer and send that same name, Father God, we ask that you receive it. And let all saints say amen. Amen. We pledge allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic of [0:07:39, 0:07:45]: which stands one nation under God in the visible with liberty and justice. [0:07:46, 0:07:48]: Madam Clerk, roll call please. [0:07:52, 0:07:53]: Good evening, everyone. [0:07:54, 0:07:54]: Evening. [0:07:55, 0:07:56]: President. [0:08:06, 0:08:07]: Present. [0:08:08, 0:08:11]: Present. Thank you, Madam Clerk. I appreciate that. Um [0:08:12, 0:08:15]: Uh Cal I need a uh motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:08:16, 0:08:25]: So moved. Okay, Mr. Alexander's a second. Second. Can Mr. Barba uh Mr. Uh uh Berry second that in all favor please indicate? Hello. Okay, announced decision on that sport. [0:08:25, 0:08:28]: Okay, Madam Clerk, I'm assuming we have public comments, is that correct? [0:08:30, 0:08:50]: Okay. So all persons wishing to speak on public comment must sign in the city clerk prior to beginning the meeting. You must sign your name, address and phone number, and you'll be able to address the mayor and city council for three minutes. Speakers must respect all members of the elected body, officials and staff. Defination, unruliness and or swearing will not be tolerated while meetings are in session. [0:08:50, 0:08:54]: Madam Clerk, uh first individual for public comments, please. Mr. Turner. [0:08:55, 0:08:57]: Okay. Let's turn name and address. [0:09:06, 0:09:26]: Two five four World Away Stockbridge. Again, this is business, this is not personal. It has officially been acknowledged that the city of Stockbridge mismanaged nearly thirty-three million dollars in 2024 under the this counsel, Fred Gardner, and Quentin Washington, our city attorney. I have personally obtained financial [0:09:26, 0:09:46]: Records by the way of open records that shows the years 2022, 2023 were also over the approved budget millions of dollars. Are you going to amend those audits as well? What happens now? Where is the accountability? This cannot just be an oh well moment. The city needs to tell the taxpayers if this act of mismanagement of funds under the [0:09:46, 0:10:06]: This council and Fred Garner is going to be investigated. This city needs to tell the taxpayers who approved these payments. This city needs to tell the taxpayers who issued these payments. The city needs to tell the taxpayers who the payments were issued to. [0:10:05, 0:10:25]: Right under the noses of the city council and city attorney, years of unapproved spending was happening with no oversight. Millions. The former city manager and the city council was asked by Councilwoman Barber on numerous occasions for financial records, ampathy to profit and loss statements, budget and balances and audits. Her requests are well documented. [0:10:25, 0:10:45]: Minute during the public meetings. The city council failed to listen and failed to act on the numerous requests by Councilmember Barber. The council was stuck on the band of three that we hear so much about that you failed to hear her sounding the alarm. She's been trying to tell you all for years that you have issues on your financial department. But because you were deliberately ignoring her, you were ignoring the problem that was right in front of you. [0:10:45, 0:11:05]: Of your face. Had you listened and insisted on the records being provided to her, she very likely would have been able to review the financials and seen that the numbers were not adding up. Councilwoman Barber is the only council member who is in her fifth year in office, has never represented the city council on any other city boards or committees, but another council member is the liaison for the DDA and to which city [0:11:05, 0:11:25]: City taxpayers had to pay$1.7 million in a settlement because of this council members bullying local businesses, but he's able to be a liaison for the DDA. Wow. Councilwoman Barber asked to be appointed to the Finance Committee. Mayor Ford refused to appoint her to the Finance Committee, saying that the former city manager, Fred Gardner, is doing a great job overseeing the city committee. [0:11:25, 0:11:45]: Finance department. Now, thirty-two million dollars later, look where we are. Mayor Ford, do you stand by your statement? We all know things would have been done much different if Councilwoman Barber would have been able to see these city finances by heading up the finance committee. Mayor Ford, I suggest you do the right thing and appoint Councilwoman Barber as chair of the finance committee. The resident of Stockbridge want Capitol. [0:11:45, 0:12:05]: Accountability and transparency as she is the only council member that displays leadership. This matter of thirty two million dollars would not be swept under the rug and is not going away. As I previously stated, the records and transactions involving this amphitheater go back to 2019 with the construction. Councilwoman Gantt recommended we go back and look at the minutes. I did just that and over and over. [0:12:05, 0:12:25]: Over again, there was money being poured into the amphitheater with changes to orders and amendments. There was one adjustment of more than seven hundred thousand dollars without a real explanation. So while the original price tag of the amphitheater was one thing, there were several changes in amendments. What has the amphitheater really cost the taxpayers of the city of Stockbridge? Considering the fact that it's abundantly clear. [0:12:25, 0:12:29]: [752.1, 757.5]: Okay. No, no sir. Three minutes is up. Thank you. [0:12:37, 0:12:43]: Okay. Stand by sir. Stand by. Uh thank you. Miss Mary Calhoun. Ms. Calhoun, please. Name and address. [0:13:00, 0:13:08]: My name is Mary Indie Calhoun, and I live at 608 Creekstone Court in Jonesboro, Georgia. [0:13:09, 0:13:29]: I am concerned about the overall formatting of presented literature and its accuracy as a whole at this point to how to have added thirty-two million to this budget. And the twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three, and twenty twenty four data doesn't correlate. [0:13:29, 0:13:49]: With these extraordinarily high numbers. Some public meetings are in the orders. Notwithstanding the explanation, we'd ask for resignations of the voting public will then need to seek to enact recall. The budget summary for 2021. [0:13:49, 0:14:09]: Clearly recaps the data from 2023, present to 2024, and provides the variance in both dollars and percentage. This data presentation is eliminated in the 2025 proposal we are referring to to on pages 20 on the [0:14:09, 0:14:29]: To the page 22 worksheet. The 2025 budget lacks this information, lacks transparency, and insight needed to properly assess the data table. It is unacceptable that the formatting is changed and the citizens are looking forward to the [0:14:29, 0:14:45]: 2026 budget discussion that clearly encompassed and presents the forthcoming year, but also recaps the prior two years history and its variance. We will accept no less than full transparency in the common budget hearing. [0:14:45, 0:15:05]: The argument that ARPA and SP Splosh six funds are absent in the twenty twenty-four accepted budget are being countered by the fact that these same income funds are missing from being presented to the proposed twenty twenty four. [0:15:05, 0:15:07]: Yeah. [0:15:08, 0:15:20]: We see the items are presented in the budget summary of the 2025 accepted budget document, division two hundred thirty, three twenty, three twenty-one, three thirty-five, respectfully. [0:15:21, 0:15:22]: Yet [0:15:22, 0:15:26]: references in the funds is missing in the twenty twenty four. [0:15:27, 0:15:40]: While SPLOS is while SPLOS was only being proposed, there are still projected in revenues and expenses from SPLOS NARPA from 2024. [0:15:41, 0:15:42]: Isn't that correct? [0:15:42, 0:15:45]: Most of us do not look at the budget. [0:15:46, 0:15:59]: Do not look it over, but we are scrutinizing each and every line item expenditure expenditure moving forward. The inflated proposals and questioning uncollected revenues. [0:16:00, 0:16:03]: And that's your time. Thank you very much. Anyone else? [0:16:04, 0:16:07]: Ms. Anika Potts. Ms. Potts, name and address please. [0:16:23, 0:16:30]: Anika Potts, 688, Pathwood Lane, Sockbridge, Georgia. Good evening, Council, Mayor, and Community. [0:16:31, 0:16:34]: I am a member of the Main Street Advisory Board. [0:16:35, 0:16:38]: We are requesting funding for the alleyway project. [0:16:38, 0:16:58]: In 2019, the Main Street program made recommendations to renovate the Burke Street alleyway, which is suffering from lots of issues. Some of the conditions include a decaying storm drain system, water damage to properties, blight conditions, and even and uneven ground and runoff. [0:16:58, 0:17:02]: The utilities were also to be taken underground during this reconstruction. [0:17:03, 0:17:06]: In twenty twenty, the council issued resolution. [0:17:06, 0:17:08]: R twenty twelve twelve. [0:17:08, 0:17:10]: agreeing to fund this project. [0:17:10, 0:17:14]: The board understands that all the elements are currently in place now. [0:17:14, 0:17:16]: And the project is ready to break ground. [0:17:17, 0:17:34]: This project is one of the keys to making our downtown more marketable and its current c uh business owners uh will enjoy it, our visitors along with potential investors. The improvements will give the infrastructure at least another 50 years of life. [0:17:34, 0:17:54]: It will elevate the look and feel of the downtown bish uh business district, excuse me. It will keep the city's promise to the property owners and the whole community. We as the Main Street uh board are here today asking for your support as the economic development staff continues to work diligently. [0:17:54, 0:18:06]: to bring the alleyway project to fruition. We respectfully request that the council agree to support the funds for the project in 2025. Thank you. [0:18:06, 0:18:07]: Thank you. [0:18:09, 0:18:10]: Anybody else, Ms. Halvey? [0:18:12, 0:18:13]: Mr. Willie Hopkins. [0:18:16, 0:18:17]: Mr. Hopkins, name and address, please. [0:18:24, 0:18:28]: Willie Hopkins fifty seven Carriage Lake Drive in the great city of Stockbridge. [0:18:30, 0:18:35]: Good evening, Mayor. Good evening. Mayor Pro Tem and the Honourable City Council. [0:18:37, 0:18:45]: I have the privilege to serve as the chairman of the Main Street Advisory Board. And I'm joined here with my colleagues that serve with me on that board. I would like to ask them to stand with me at this time. [0:18:49, 0:18:50]: Council. [0:18:51, 0:18:53]: This board are committed to [0:18:53, 0:18:57]: to support and continue the growth and vitality of our downtown district. [0:18:58, 0:19:01]: I wanna thank you for this opportunity to stand before you this evening. [0:19:01, 0:19:03]: To provide you with a brief update. [0:19:04, 0:19:06]: on the ongoing work within our Main Street Advisory Board. [0:19:07, 0:19:11]: As downtown district as the downtown district continues to grow. [0:19:11, 0:19:22]: With new businesses, increased foot traffic, and expanded community engagement, the Main Street Advisory Board and Economic Development are submitted committed to HIPS promoting [0:19:22, 0:19:26]: Local entrepreneurship and embracing the quality of life here in the city of Stockbridge. [0:19:27, 0:19:28]: How do we do this? [0:19:29, 0:19:36]: We do this by supporting momentum through the thoughtful prompt programming and structural improvements and proactive policy reviews. [0:19:37, 0:19:54]: I'm excited at this time to share a few successful initiatives that we've done this year that brought footprint, foot traffic, and active public spaces within our downtown district. One, the Tiny Tent. That's a flexible, low-cost pop-up market format supporting our small vendors. [0:19:55, 0:20:15]: Two, farm the table market that cultivates marketplace promoting local agriculture and small businesses. Three, get the step and fitness walk. That's a health forward program designed to engage residents and engage them in walking during our downtown area. These programs are fostered in [0:20:15, 0:20:27]: increasing committed engagement and versatility of our downtown businesses. As the board continues to support and work with economic development, economic development has continued to move forward with two important instructional initiatives. [0:20:27, 0:20:38]: The alleyway active activation project, which focuses on transform unutilization alley space into a safe, attractive press pedestrian corrid corridors and support retail and community activities. [0:20:38, 0:20:39]: Two. [0:20:39, 0:20:46]: North or southern parking extension. And that's aimed at improving downtown accessibility and accommodating future growth. [0:20:48, 0:21:08]: These projects support long-term goals that this council has already been initiative to and understand that it was in the RSVP. And it also helps us connect in economic vitality in a place of marketing for our city. Economic Development and Main Street staff appreciates this council for your ongoing support and looks forward. [0:21:08, 0:21:12]: forward to continued collaboration as we go forth to make this city the best city in the state of Georgia. [0:21:14, 0:21:19]: With the increase of new businesses and new footprint traffic that's coming down to our city. [0:21:19, 0:21:32]: And with new challenges, s it have natural um emerges high it have challenges naturally that emerges high liability um gaps in [0:21:32, 0:21:39]: Sure, your time. Y is there any more do you are you finished? I need some about two m about another third second. Hold on second. Is d do we wanna give him extra time? [0:21:39, 0:21:41]: I listen, it's [0:21:42, 0:22:02]: I'm a yes, absolutely. It's the main street board. But I I didn't understand why they weren't on the agenda and doing doing this during public comment. But I have no problem with it. I actually support it because I I wanna ask some questions because it should be a presentation. I'd just like to make a motion to put them on the agenda. [0:22:02, 0:22:06]: So that we can have a full discussion. Yeah. [0:22:10, 0:22:21]: Okay. That was gonna be my request. Yeah. All right, go ahead. In order to be fair to all citizens, we can't extend time or not send it otherwise up to have more. [0:22:23, 0:22:28]: Okay. So we'll make a motion to put'em on the agenda. Okay. The Main Street board on the agenda. [0:22:29, 0:22:37]: That's the second to the motion? Mr. Um Berry's second. All in favor? Please and okay? Okay. Continue on continue on, sir. [0:22:40, 0:22:41]: Thank you, Bo. [0:22:41, 0:23:01]: Let let's just bring him back up when when when that time comes so he can so to be fair, we didn't give anybody else any extra time. Let's just bring him back up when that time comes. So you can finish your complete speech when the agenda item comes. We'll put him on the agenda first. Okay, good idea. On that note. So I'll what I'll do. Thank you, sir. Uh we'll we'll do it right after review of the minutes. Um [0:23:01, 0:23:14]: Yep, go ahead. Sit down. I'll bring it back when view the minutes here, which is one simple statement. It'd be it'd be be shortly. Just have a seat. Have a seat for a brief moment. All right. All right. And uh Madam Clerk, you have that noted, is that correct? [0:23:16, 0:23:36]: Okay. All right, then thank you. Okay. So on that note, review the minutes review July fifteenth, twenty twenty-five council meeting minutes. Once you review those, if there are any changes to those, make sure you get those changes to the clerk, and we'll approve that at our next uh meeting in uh which will be in August. I believe it's August 11th. Now, uh yeah, so uh what we have next is presentation, but before we get into presentation, [0:23:35, 0:23:44]: Presentations, all right. If you don't mind, uh come on backing up, sir. Uh come on back up and finish out your presentation, Main Street President. [0:23:46, 0:23:46]: Okay. [0:23:49, 0:23:49]: All right. [0:23:55, 0:23:56]: I think you uh [0:23:56, 0:24:16]: Council m uh mayor counsel for this opportunity to come back before you. Good deal. Uh as I continue, uh Mayor, to maintain the downtown district forward momentum and avoid disruption, economic development and Main Street staff will be undertaking a comprehensive review of key policies. This effect will focus on aligning existing rel uh regulation. [0:24:16, 0:24:31]: with evolving needs of a modern, active downtown district. Some key areas that the board should be looking at is open container ordinance. And this is the evaluating the impact on both the public safety and the cultural verocity of this district. [0:24:31, 0:24:32]: Private event. [0:24:32, 0:24:42]: Policy, reviewing the frequency and structure of events hosted by private entities to ensure a balance and accessibility for the safety of our citizens. [0:24:42, 0:24:56]: Shared parking management, and this is the identifying strategies to better coordinate and optimize limited parking resources. And there may be other additional areas that may be under consideration, and this is to improve clarity, fairness, and operational efficiency. [0:24:57, 0:25:06]: Uh these reviews will result in thoughtful recommendations intended to support the downtown district's growth, particularly in reinforcing its arts and entertainment culture. [0:25:07, 0:25:11]: While promoting fairness, sustainability for all our stockholders. [0:25:11, 0:25:13]: The Main Street Advisor Board is [0:25:13, 0:25:14]: Generally. [0:25:15, 0:25:17]: And genuinely excited about the future decision. [0:25:18, 0:25:19]: Stockbridge Downtown District. [0:25:20, 0:25:21]: The main street advisor board remains. [0:25:22, 0:25:24]: And I say this with no uncertain terms. [0:25:25, 0:25:25]: Remain. [0:25:26, 0:25:29]: The number one committed hardest working boy in this city. [0:25:29, 0:25:31]: And we will continue to do that to support this board. [0:25:33, 0:25:33]: In the meantime. [0:25:34, 0:25:35]: As we continue to do that [0:25:36, 0:25:41]: We are dedicated to ensuring downtown d our downtown district enca encompass and [0:25:41, 0:25:47]: Income as a growth as it vibr as a vibrant, accessible, and well managed area for everyone who lives. [0:25:47, 0:25:49]: Works and invests in this city. [0:25:50, 0:26:00]: And Mayor, I humbly thank you again. This concludes my little portion. Okay and if anything, any question you may have, I stand available to pretty sure we do. All right. [0:26:00, 0:26:03]: And I forgot who the layers on. [0:26:03, 0:26:23]: It's Councilman uh Afonso Thomas. Okay, all right, gotcha. All right. Mayor. Go right, please. Um a couple of things. When we had our retreats, the Alloway project is something that we've already approved. We've approved funding and we also um asked what the holdup is. I don't think you don't have the mayor's and council support on that. I think [0:26:23, 0:26:40]: think everybody on mayor council agreed that we want that completed. Um so we haven't had a city manager in about six months, quite almost six months. So [0:26:40, 0:26:49]: Maybe that could be the holdup, but I'm not sure what the holdup is. We would have to speak to our economic development director, if you don't mind, Mr. Uh [0:26:50, 0:26:57]: Sanders. Sand Sanders coming up. Um and also Lisa um if you don't mind coming up. [0:26:57, 0:27:01]: Because we need to figure out where we are and [0:27:01, 0:27:05]: where we're headed with that. I don't think anybody on this [0:27:05, 0:27:12]: We've we are all in agreement with that. Um so we appreciate you guys giving us a update on it, but [0:27:13, 0:27:13]: Um [0:27:14, 0:27:17]: A there were some times when I asked about it. [0:27:17, 0:27:37]: And the previous Main Street director at one point had said that they had to hold off. There were some certain things that had to be done. And that was through the engineering firm. So it's not a whole you want to make sure you get it done right, right? You got I don't know if you have easements or certain things you need to do. There was a debate on crush and run. There were debate on different types of [0:27:37, 0:27:47]: of things that need to uh no need to be done, but just letting you know, you know, uh everybody on here agreed [0:27:47, 0:27:50]: I'm just waiting to hear when y'all are gonna get started. [0:27:50, 0:27:52]: And then in addition to that [0:27:53, 0:28:13]: Um, I guess number two in regards to policies and procedures. Um is from my understanding there are some concerns about events and the way those policies and procedures ought to take place. I think our legal team as well as Mayor and Council needs to be involved. Um we did an open container district just as Savannah or any other downtown would do. [0:28:13, 0:28:33]: Do with a 16-ounce drink from the establishments in that downtown area. And there's actually a map that's applied. So, um, there are some concerns with some of the constitutional language, maybe in regards to smoking or stuff like that, that we might need to take a look at. But other than that, um [0:28:32, 0:28:52]: You guys have our full one hundred percent support as far as I'm concerned. I can't speak for everybody else, but I definitely support Main Street. Um well you wanna make sure that it's fair for all. I've received concerns, um, you know, in regards to certain things and I think the mayor and council where it's [0:28:52, 0:29:00]: stands we have a new city manager um coming in so we should be able to iron out some of those those kinks. [0:29:01, 0:29:21]: Did you need to respond to that now? Well, just real quickly, I was gonna say thank thank you, Councilwoman Gantt, and and thank you all as a council as a whole for supporting downtown. Uh it is very much appreciated. Um I was aware that there was generally a funding source, but I was not entirely clear that, and I'm assuming Councilwoman Glant. [0:29:21, 0:29:34]: And the council can correct me, is it SPLOST six? Because although I know we talked about it in the retreat, I won't I'll say that you know maybe it was my mistake that I walked away without being clear. [0:29:35, 0:29:53]: that it was splot six. So if you are saying now that money is definitely in place, we will run with that. Because uh we have uh done a lot of preliminary work in terms of working with the engineers and walking in and getting an understanding about historically what's happened and what hasn't happened, and we are ready to go. [0:29:53, 0:30:11]: if there is a consensus on the funding source. So I'll I'll get to work on it tomorrow. But but the engineers are waiting for us to get back with them and we just need clarity on, you know, the the funding source that we are to use. And if if if that was a financial director at all about it? [0:30:12, 0:30:32]: I'm sorry. Have you spoken to the finance director about? We've had a number of internal conversations about it. And in fact, at some point the staff will be bringing some recommendations before you all on all capital, uh, not just this one, but all capital. But as far as being clear on the funding source, if the clarification is coming from you all this evening. [0:30:31, 0:30:35]: that spot six is it, I will proceed. [0:30:35, 0:30:55]: Well, I can't do that without listening to our finance director, but in the past that money was allocated and set aside for specifically for the alleyway. I mean we had we had a list. So we need to if we need to meet or maybe have a retreat with council and that's something I'm gonna bring up anyway. I I want the development authority and the C [0:30:55, 0:31:15]: City Council to have a retreat together. So maybe we should meet um with the Main Street and do a dual meeting and just kind of work out some of the kinks on what was expected, what's needed, and look at the financial portion of it. But it's been in it's been in play for a minute. Yeah, because I was unaware of it. It was uh told to me. [0:31:15, 0:31:35]: Our previous uh Main Street director had said that it there was a halt because of certain things that needed to be done from the engineering side and design side. We have completed that part of it. And my understanding and and I'm I'm still new a little bit myself to the city, my understanding was that there was funding in place, several hundred thousand dollars of funding in place to do the project. [0:31:35, 0:31:55]: Four or five years ago or so and coming on board and hearing about that, I certainly inquired about it, but I don't know where that funding is right now. We can use it or not. So if it's if it's available, certainly we'd love to use it so that we can get the project going. And if it needs to come from another source, I'm certainly willing to do whatever we need to do in order to advance the project. [0:31:55, 0:32:03]: Because from the staff's perspective, and and of course uh Lisa can speak for herself, but we as a unified staff, along with the DDA. [0:32:03, 0:32:23]: And the Main Street, we're very anxious to get started with both of the projects that uh the chair spoke of and and others. So there's landscaping to be good on. There's there's there's a multitude of things that need to be done in downtown, uh including utility relocation, so forth and so on, which I won't go into, but we're anxious to get started on all [0:32:23, 0:32:31]: All of those things and advance them for the purposes of downtown being realized, its true potential can be realized. [0:32:32, 0:32:41]: Mayor, can we can I make a suggestion and we put that on our agenda for the next retreat that we have? We definitely do that. That's the only problem. Mr. Alexander, go ahead. [0:32:41, 0:32:42]: That's unnecessary. [0:32:43, 0:33:03]: The the people are just listen, with all due respect, people are tired of you talking, okay? And they want to see action amongst things to just happen. And uh there's no reason in the last six months that that project couldn't have moved forward. It's twenty-one million dollars in the SPLOSS 5 account. Twenty-one million dollars. And then [0:33:03, 0:33:08]: And we're collecting splas six now. Now Mr. Edmundson, come to the mo come to the podium. [0:33:09, 0:33:18]: We we don't have to keep talking. You sir, who are gonna have to come forward as well. [0:33:19, 0:33:27]: Uh finance director. No, no, not you. I'm talking about a finance director. Right, I'm gonna I'm gonna call him out. Well, you might as well step up here now. Right, he's gonna come up here next. [0:33:29, 0:33:30]: Just hold on a minute. [0:33:31, 0:33:34]: This this is what we gotta understand. [0:33:35, 0:33:55]: You are our new city manager, you're brought here to understand the frustration, not just amongst the main street board, the DDA created a resolution to actually move this project forward too, because we want to see things happen. You have seen there is a consensus right up here right now. [0:33:55, 0:34:15]: There's money in the bank to move this project forward. Right. We can meet till we are and talk this to death. We just had a retreat a couple of months ago about over at the beautiful render, right? We had a retreat over there. We talked about it for the tenth time. Right. Right. The idea is we need someone actionable. [0:34:15, 0:34:35]: To take some actionable steps to move the project forward. The engineering is complete, the right-of-way acquisition is complete. We need someone to go ahead and manage the project so that it actually happens. Now, we requested the the funding analysis from uh the finance department. He [0:34:35, 0:34:55]: Delivered them delivered the numbers to us. We're collecting$700,000 a month in SPLOST. Uh in terms of the new SPLOS when it starts coming in, the SPLOS six. We had a current$21 million in the SPLOS 5 account and the T SPLOST account. We had$17 million in the T SPLOST account, and we also had a [0:34:55, 0:35:15]: A million dollars sitting in a bond that we had bonded for multi-use trails. Now, the Alleyway project, in my opinion, is a trail. You can br you're creating a access that downtown for a gathering space. That million dollar bond could be could be used for that because you're creating [0:35:15, 0:35:35]: A wide accessible trail through that area so that people can move forward with it. Now, I understand certainly there's been some disruption and certain in terms of how we proceed and how we move forward. But the Main Street board, the DDA board, and the business owners want to see action. [0:35:35, 0:35:46]: They're tired of us talking. They want to see action. And and and for the business owners, as far as the business owners concerned, a lot of us can t can uh c can hypothesize what we want. [0:35:47, 0:36:07]: But none of our money personal assets are on the table. The business owners have cash and they have skin in the game. And they're not gonna be able to wait much longer on progress to be able to happen downtown. They need you to hit the ground running on the very first day working on this project and catching us up from the [0:36:07, 0:36:27]: The last uh six or seven months where transition was being made forward. And as a seasoned city manager, that we all agree, right, that you're a seasoned city manager, that you should be able to come in and we should be able to exercise this project and get updated with uh the economic development staff and Mr. Malazzi. [0:36:27, 0:36:47]: If I may, uh council member, uh, and I agree with everything that you said. Um, and in fact, I was taken aback a little bit because I believe any project that's presented before this body, we should understand where that fund is coming from. And if that has been a practice prior to, that would not happen again. No project should be presented to the body. [0:36:47, 0:37:07]: To the governing body without us understanding clean completely where that funding is coming from. So we'll double back and we'll check and and and get a status on these projects and report back. But if we approve the project and we don't understand where the funding comes from, that's the first mistake. And that would not happen under my administration. Uh that's first and foremost. Um [0:37:07, 0:37:27]: Um we owe you answers. We understand that there are a lot of projects uh on on pause in neutral. I'm not understanding why as as well, but I'm gonna get a full readout of what's going on with that. Um as I told you before, I'm about results uh and my team would soon know that um moving forward and this will not be a issue again. So [0:37:27, 0:37:29]: So there you go. [0:37:30, 0:37:30]: Frank? [0:37:33, 0:37:53]: I wish we had discussed before it came before you would have given and given you information and give them information. So we'll get back to you and we'll work with them. If they are on the list, we'll let you know. If they are not, you'll be able to relocate. [0:37:53, 0:37:55]: Allocate the funds for them. [0:37:55, 0:37:56]: Okay. [0:37:56, 0:37:57]: Mayor. Yes, sir. [0:37:59, 0:38:19]: Motion directing the staff and the sit new city manager to look into five to identifying the funding and moving forward with the downtown alleyway project and as Ms. Gantt suggested that they would return to us with the results. Not another meeting, that they were return to us with the results. [0:38:19, 0:38:20]: In the next thirty days. [0:38:23, 0:38:23]: Um [0:38:24, 0:38:27]: That's not necessary, sir. Uh I'm giving you my word here. [0:38:27, 0:38:47]: As a professional, uh when I start on the fourth, uh we're gonna get uh we're gonna roll our sleeves up and get and get going. At the point something is already voted on and and approved, those are priority. And if those priorities shift based off the funding that we got, because right now we also gotta understand our financial situation, right? So it's a lot of moving pieces, a lot of [0:38:47, 0:39:07]: things going on. But what I will assure this body is uh at the point that we definitely have the funding, which I believe we do, um, it's no reason to hold up. Uh it's it's it's absolute no reason to hold up. So I'm telling you here on the record that that's the plan and that's the goal. So so in so in other words, you're saying we don't need a most [0:39:07, 0:39:13]: Motion, you're gonna return to us absolutely within thirty days and we're gonna have a result on the moving this project forward. Yes, sir. [0:39:14, 0:39:17]: Mayor. Yes, ma'am. Um [0:39:18, 0:39:19]: Real quick. [0:39:20, 0:39:20]: Um [0:39:21, 0:39:27]: The director of Main Street, is there anything you would like to say in regards or your concerns in regards to this project? [0:39:29, 0:39:39]: I know that they that the board members um came up and I really appreciate that. But I wanted to hear from you as well. [0:39:40, 0:39:44]: If you're asking about the alleyway project in particular. [0:39:44, 0:39:48]: А вам тонка Майн стріт адвізорі борд. [0:39:48, 0:40:08]: They've been very supportive over these years. I think the project was introduced in 2019, and there have been several um stop gaps along the way. Um there was initially funding um in September of 2020 with a resolution. Um and there [0:40:08, 0:40:10]: Still has been no [0:40:10, 0:40:16]: Result, I was told by the former city manager that those funds were no longer available. [0:40:17, 0:40:37]: Um, so we continue to reintroduce the project each year during our work plan. And part of our work plan for this year was to make sure there was more momentum. We have um a new economic development director who's been um meticulously trying to work with. [0:40:37, 0:40:57]: the other directors to move it forward. My most recent understanding is that although the council has listed downtown development as number three in their list of things to do, I was not aware that we were given a funding source for the Alleyway project. So um that is [0:40:57, 0:41:00]: One thing. The other thing that um [0:41:01, 0:41:06]: uh Mister Hopkins brought forward was that because we have so much more [0:41:06, 0:41:11]: activity in the downtown than we've ever had before, which is a good problem to have. [0:41:12, 0:41:13]: There have been some challenges that [0:41:14, 0:41:34]: Have arisen out of that circumstance. Some of them are a bit worrisome. So we feel that it would be important for us to re-evaluate the codes and ordinances that exist that may be outdated based on our modern downtown and the fact that we have more businesses. [0:41:34, 0:41:49]: Is trying to come into the district. We we've worked very hard, especially once our office was moved out of City Hall and put on the ground in Main Street to make it uh a community, a neighborhood among [0:41:50, 0:41:52]: all of the business owners and um [0:41:53, 0:41:55]: Frankly, we've had some [0:41:55, 0:41:57]: concerns from some of the owners that [0:41:58, 0:42:02]: They don't feel like they're being treated fairly. They feel like there's um [0:42:02, 0:42:10]: some bullying going on when when it comes to parking. Obviously we have limited parking like every downtown. But um [0:42:10, 0:42:13]: Our our board uh no sorry, not our board. Our [0:42:14, 0:42:26]: department has tried to make attempts at putting in signage, um giving parking passes to the business owners, um, several different things, but it's going to require more. [0:42:28, 0:42:37]: I guess law on the books for the parking issue to be addressed. In addition to that, we have the Norfolk Southern extension that [0:42:38, 0:42:45]: um Mr. Sanders is working on so that we can get additional parking in the downtown. Um [0:42:46, 0:42:50]: We want to just make sure that we have the ability to. [0:42:51, 0:42:58]: Govern fairly. You have a district manager, but we need to make sure that the district manager [0:42:58, 0:43:05]: Is treating everyone with respect and being treated with respect based on what the city's standards and protocols are. [0:43:06, 0:43:26]: Thank you. Um, in regards to the parking, uh the the RSVP study, interesting enough, thought that there was plenty of parking in downtown. It th it actually states it and it gets creative on ways that there are ways to make that a creative s creative spaces, so to speak. [0:43:26, 0:43:46]: But they mentioned the typical downtown, like any other downtown, whether you're in Atlanta or anywhere else, you're gonna have those challenges. Um, I was in downtown Spaudon County today for court this morning and I drove around for fifteen minutes looking for a park. It is not abnormal. It's a problem that you're gonna have in every municipality. So [0:43:46, 0:44:00]: So it's something that, you know, we hear, we hear you loud and clear. But I want Miss Free, thank you so much for your diligence on that. Um w let's just we'll come together and work together to find a resolution. [0:44:01, 0:44:07]: I want to go to my right side. You all have anything comments down at all? Go write it, please. [0:44:10, 0:44:30]: Uh thank you, Mr. Hopkins, um, for bringing this forward. I do support the Aloe project. I am the district representative of our downtown area. So when there are concerns, I like to be made aware of them, if you would please. Um have those business owners to reach out to me. I have spoken with. [0:44:30, 0:44:30]: Yeah. [0:44:31, 0:44:38]: Um at least two of them who've expressed concerns regarding parking and other issues, but I like to hear from all of them. [0:44:39, 0:44:46]: If there are any businesses or any residents who have concerns that live in the downtown area [0:44:47, 0:44:49]: I am your representative. [0:44:49, 0:44:52]: please reach out to me directly. [0:44:52, 0:44:53]: I like to hear about them. [0:44:54, 0:44:59]: So that I can work with staff and the city manager to resolve those issues. Um [0:44:59, 0:45:12]: One other thing that I did request though, and this is for Mr. Edmondson, um, the Main Street Board brought a idea of a project to the council, I believe back in 2021. [0:45:13, 0:45:33]: Um it was the shipping container district, where temporary shipping containers could be used in the downtown area. I like for them to bring that project back to the council for us to reconsider it. I believe that will increase more foot traffic. That's what we want to see, especially during the concert season. [0:45:33, 0:45:38]: Reasons. Um I do want to just make a request. [0:45:40, 0:45:46]: During our council retreats is the opportunity for all boards. [0:45:46, 0:45:54]: All boards should be included and involved in our council retreats. [0:45:54, 0:45:57]: These are the discussions that should be had. [0:45:57, 0:45:58]: During our retreats. [0:45:59, 0:46:01]: I asked that earlier this year. [0:46:02, 0:46:03]: I asked it. [0:46:03, 0:46:04]: Last year. [0:46:04, 0:46:08]: So that boards are not working as silos. [0:46:08, 0:46:11]: and trying to resolve issues that go nowhere. [0:46:12, 0:46:16]: Um I also want to ask, and just this is just from Mr. Edmondson. [0:46:17, 0:46:19]: He hasn't even started his first day yet. [0:46:20, 0:46:40]: There are a lot of priorities of our city that's gonna that's gonna require your focus. I ask that you please, sir, take the time to review all of the priorities, not just this one. Right. All priorities of our city. I trust your judgment, I trust your leadership. Um [0:46:40, 0:47:00]: So and if I may, um one thing I'm realizing very early on as well as I go through here for the past couple of weeks, uh just having conversations with staff, so on so forth, my concern early on, I'm just gonna come on out, uh, is I just want to make sure that we are not picking up projects and throwing stuff against the wall. [0:47:00, 0:47:02]: [2822.9, 2833.9]: I I need to see the comprehensive plan. I need to see the master plan because if we're not going by that, then I think we are making a huge mistake. The problem with growing and smart growth is that you have to have a plan. [0:47:14, 0:47:34]: Right. And just because you want to build something here or put something over here doesn't mean it makes sense in the long term. So I want to make sure that we are strategizing and that we are going by a master plan or comprehensive plan. And if we're not, then what are we doing? Are we going to modify that? Is it time to renew? Which I think is about that time again. So some of these conversations need to be had. [0:47:34, 0:47:43]: What I don't want staff to do is be presenting items or ideas based off everybody have an idea. The faster way to not get nothing done is try to do everything. [0:47:43, 0:48:03]: And we don't have a plan and we don't have a strategy how to get there, then I think we are planning to fail. And that's not I'm gonna be on my watch. So what I'd like to do is actually look at the comprehensive plan in each department based on what project list that we got, because we have a master project list as well as uh for the city that includes the downtown and the [0:48:03, 0:48:18]: other par projects that we have and they need to show me in the comprehensive plan where that relates at. If they can't show me then then guess what? Then we need to talk about where that priority goes. Because as far as I'm concerned, either we going by the comprehensive plan or we need a new a new directive to go in a different direction. [0:48:19, 0:48:39]: Okay, good. Stand by for a second, please. Hold your thought. Sir, did you have anything that you need to add? I don't want to add anything, just again, you guys know that I have your yeah, I support you guys in every uh endeavor in this project and I'm really waiting to see once you get in and get your hands dirty, Ms. Emerson, and see what you can unearth and bring everything to to the you know to the forefront. [0:48:39, 0:48:41]: Right. Right. Absolutely. [0:48:42, 0:49:02]: I bet it. Yes, sir. Mr. Alexander, go ahead, please. Let me tell you this. We do have a plan. Good. We the council voted on the projects. There was not, we ranked them in the priority that we want them based off the plan that was put together. We need you and the staff to execute the project. [0:49:01, 0:49:21]: plan. That's what we need. We need action, not any more talk. We need action. We need somebody to come in and say, let me take the bull by the horns and let me move forward with these particular projects. The alleyway project was ranked three, right? There was a couple before that. But those are the ones that the council [0:49:21, 0:49:38]: prioritize based off retreats that we already had, that we mashed up, spent all day talking about it, and finally came to consensus on all of on the issues with ranked how we wanted them ranked. And then with the funds that are particularly [0:49:38, 0:49:45]: Coming in. I appreciate you coming in before your time. But let me say this, okay? There's seven hundred parking spaces right there. [0:49:45, 0:49:46]: Okay. [0:49:47, 0:50:07]: Uh see, I don't get caught up into I can't walk a half a block across the street, across the railroad tracks. If you go to any downtown, I go to Atlanta, I go to Augusta, I go to Marietta, I go to Smyrna, I gotta walk a little bit. Should we have a parking deck down here? Yes. But there's n this shortage of parking when you got two businesses that are open. [0:50:07, 0:50:10]: and downtown blows my mind. Two. [0:50:10, 0:50:30]: Right? No so it's not like there's a lot of activity down there, except that when there's a there's concerts going on, it's a smoke screen for the other issues that are going on between the business owners and personalities and stuff like that. I I it's a smoke screen. It really is. There's not a dearth of parking. [0:50:30, 0:50:38]: The issue is that the only improvement that I'd like to see move forward is we worked out an agreement with Norfolk Southern. [0:50:38, 0:50:58]: As a trade-off, they gave us fifty thousand dollars to close the Nolan Street exit. And that part of that agreement included closing this downtown station and transition. That should have happened. That's I don't care if we gotta call them every single day. Somebody needs to be on that. That needs to happen. [0:50:58, 0:51:18]: I know the railroad is very hard to deal with, but the transaction was written down how it was supposed to be executed, and the city has received the$50,000 for closing that exit. That part one has taken place, part two has not taken place, and that's because we gotta have somebody that's determined not to hear the word use. [0:51:18, 0:51:38]: Yeah, no, we're not accepting no that we the railroad is hard to deal with, this, that, is that keep making that phone call if you gotta make it every day in order to make things happen. And and let me say this, the two businesses, the new businesses that are down uh in downtown, obviously they're very frustrated with what's going with what has taken place. [0:51:38, 0:51:58]: But they have money at stake. They have skin in the game into what they're doing. So their opinion is always going to matter and where we and where we need to go in all of that. Obviously, there's not going to be 100% agreement on what the process is to move forward, but certainly we're seeing activity in downtown. [0:51:58, 0:52:11]: like we've never seen before. The the new restaurant now is jam packed almost every single day. That's something that we could have only dreamed of m maybe just a year and a half or eighteen months ago. [0:52:12, 0:52:21]: 114, Martin Luther King, Senior Heritage Trail, the roof was literally falling in, right? The loot the roof was literally caving in. [0:52:22, 0:52:33]: It was put on the market, it was rehabbed, it's now a prized possession. Anybody in this entire area would love to uh uh to uh support it and to be at it. [0:52:34, 0:52:38]: What we're doing in downtown actually attracted them. [0:52:39, 0:52:59]: But they're frustrated because they've seen the plan. It's called the RSVP plan. It's a broad concept that was put together, and then the council did rank choice on what we needed to do, prioritizing what downtown needs to be. I don't expect all the answers today, but I'll expect that the paperwork and all the meetings have been had. [0:52:59, 0:53:04]: At execution time at the highest level is what the priority is in my opinion. [0:53:05, 0:53:15]: All right. We have plenty of conversation. Thank you. And and uh Mr Edmundson, welcome to Stockbridge where community connects, sir. Yes, sir. Okay. Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. [0:53:17, 0:53:37]: Comment from the chair. Sure. Go ahead, please. Since I've been uh active member of this board over five and a half years, this boy has always had a liaison. Unfortunately that uh Councilman Thomas has been out. Uh none that he can do. But I think it's very important. It's imperative to [0:53:37, 0:53:57]: That our board, the Main Street Bible, have a liaison to this honorable board here. And it's just things that I deal with, I have to do things that make sense. And downtown is district two, is is is uh Councilman Barber's district. I I have I it my recommendation. [0:53:57, 0:53:58]: Recommendations don't mean anything. I understand that. [0:54:00, 0:54:07]: I understand that, but I would love to have Councilman Barber on uh Aliza in her district so that we can get things done. Thank you. [0:54:07, 0:54:15]: All right. All right. Appreciate that. Thank you. No problem. Thank you. I accept your recommendation, sir. And thank you. Thank you all. [0:54:17, 0:54:18]: All right. Um [0:54:20, 0:54:30]: Excuse me? Okay. So what we have next or are presentations and actually the presentations deal with the city managers, yeah presentation along with our other [0:54:30, 0:54:33]: directors. Council, you have the presentations in your book now. [0:54:34, 0:54:53]: I mean there's several ways we can do this. I mean I can highlight mine, I c the city manager's piece there. I highlight the rest of the rest of those presentations for each one of the department heads. Uh we can go through that. It'll take some time to highlight all those, uh, but they're all in front of you, all the things that happened uh highlighted for the last quarter uh in that aspect as well. [0:54:54, 0:55:14]: And one of the highlights in reference to the city manager's uh position here is conducting me uh meet uh weekly uh staff meetings, which is uh occurred on Tuesday as nine o'clock typically. And uh the retreat, we had a staff budget retreat on 22 uh 23 May. Um and then of course uh been participating with the other uh city management. [0:55:14, 0:55:34]: managers and county managers for a uh joint meeting on a regular basis. And uh of course uh attending with the the uh the edge the actual economic director on the civic sign is uh meeting and of course council meetings as well and ribbon cuttings and ceremonies for new businesses and uh the financial manager Mr. Lazi and I have had quite a bit of conversation [0:55:34, 0:55:36]: [3337.0, 3342.0]: So that's just some of the highlights in that aspect. But that's where city manager directed. But what we have next would be [0:55:42, 0:55:44]: What we have next could be be [0:55:44, 0:55:52]: easily a whole bunch of other things for each one of the departments. And um I can easily go through those or have the I'm sorry, uh you're Demetrius, you were doing something? [0:55:53, 0:56:13]: Okay, go ahead. All right. So say for instance if uh Ms. Malazi is here, but uh if you look in your your presentation, he talks about the twenty twenty-five Homestate exemption closed on April first, twenty twenty-five. The twenty twenty-four fiscal audit is just about complete, successfully implemented the federal finance reporting and projects. [0:56:13, 0:56:15]: Procedures per grants requirements that we need. [0:56:16, 0:56:26]: received the first SPLOS six in June, SOS six funding in June. And of course will carry out for our various projects that we just talked about, citywide projects for the next six years. [0:56:26, 0:56:33]: And uh met with all the federal grants and requirements, uh no longer hold up for drawdowns or encourage particular expenses and reimbursements there. [0:56:34, 0:56:45]: And of course we'll uh we'll get to the point for the FY twenty twenty six uh budget process it'll be uh something we'll get to here shortly as well as as uh time goes on. [0:56:46, 0:57:06]: The city clerk's report that you have there was Miss Vanessa Holliday. Of course, they prepare uh 35 meeting agendas, attended 16 uh council committee and board meetings, 21 operational staffs and agenda review meetings, 10 training sessions they've had, 1,900 meeting and minutes uh prescribed on [0:57:06, 0:57:15]: all that thirty one proclamations and letters and eighth oath of offices and a hundred and fifty three open records requests is and I don't know if that sets a record or not, but it's a whole lot. [0:57:17, 0:57:37]: Our admin uh council, our admin support staff deals with Miss Rawls and Miss Eatman, and of course they as you well know Council, they support all our initiatives, which is a m a number of m things in the Bingo, Bash, State of the City Address, Mother's Day Tea, National Day of Prayer, you know, meet the mayor, the country. [0:57:37, 0:57:43]: community cleanup, um the classic uh Father Day s uh celebration, town halls. [0:57:44, 0:58:04]: And that uh we are yeah, so they're quite busy with uh initiatives that we have. The IT department um has several different things that occurred in the last several months. Setting up uh you know new accounts and and decommissioning of old ones, review and manage user permissions, access controls, run and verify regular backups. [0:58:04, 0:58:20]: Evaluate upcoming tech needs and upgrade uh our IT documentation and knowledge base and track SLAs and resolution times. Just highlighting a few here,'cause I I can be here all night reading all these things, right? Evaluate cybersecurity, posture and tools, which is extremely important these days as well. [0:58:21, 0:58:41]: Human Resources with uh Miss Renee Wheelers director, as a director there. Um we have ten open positions last quarter, eight new hires, five summer interns. We honored those interns just last week with a luncheon and thanked them for their service uh for us over the last several months. Um gave several different stroke and awareness, bone health. [0:58:41, 0:59:01]: type of health and wellness programming, monthly coaching and meeting with the employees, and uh presentation what how to be a good human challenge in a sense is aspect as we've done. Safety and risk management, working works workers compet uh compensation claims uh four of those have been open, incurred uh roughly fifty nine thousand five hundred dollars [0:59:01, 0:59:21]: on that. And uh we've had some actually um navigating mental health and work in workplace anti-harassment and workplace bullying training, just on training to protect our workforce and this aspect, improving local government team decision making process. Public works department. We've actually added [0:59:21, 0:59:41]: two city sweeper trucks. Um let's see here. Um so of course the city is divided in uh into five um with five street sweeping uh zones and each zone is swept on an average of uh three times per year and uh let's see here and of course the sweepers de uh des designated to and be routed to [0:59:41, 0:59:45]: And let's see. [0:59:47, 1:00:07]: Overhead signage replacement project when reference assigns identify what streets that you're on. Mr. Anderson who deals with his quarter report deals with community director, director. Occupational taxes, roughly for the last quarter, if I understand this right, 72,136. Financial institutions 12573, alcohol licenses. [1:00:07, 1:00:27]: Is$12,500. Any type of late fees that we have curred that we have obtained for$17,864. Regulatory fees,$5,100. The total of that particular occupational tax nap, uh, um, all those particular subsets is$246,061. Hotel motel tax. [1:00:27, 1:00:47]: 314, excuse me, 312 and uh$312,091. Consumption from um uh there are particular spirits there in the in the strawberry area, forty two forty-two thousand six hundred and sixty-eight. And consumption that is beer is eighty six, eighty eight thousand. [1:00:47, 1:01:05]: Wine 31,251. The steel spirits of 59,194. Business services five hundred and fifteen thousand two hundred thirty uh two hundred and thirty. Permitting fees for the last quarter, seven hundred and ninety-seven thousand eight hundred eighty-five. [1:01:05, 1:01:07]: Playing is only seven thousand seven hundred. [1:01:07, 1:01:11]: Fire marshal himself with uh for last quarter twenty one thousand five seventy five. [1:01:12, 1:01:17]: And total revenue in that particular particular department is one million three hundred forty two thousand three hundred ninety one. [1:01:19, 1:01:39]: Yeah, Economic Development Department. Uh we briefed with uh Mr. Sanders just talking to us earlier and we'd have it on here deals with North Force Southern Rail parking lot the lease agreement, which we're still working on. We're gonna have a briefing here shortly about the special service district. Um and of course there's some uh concerns in reference to uh how we go forward with the Georgia Power utility relocation. [1:01:39, 1:01:42]: in our downtown area to look at putting those utilities underground. [1:01:43, 1:01:47]: And the alleyway project also, as we just discussed, is on this particular report as well. [1:01:47, 1:02:07]: Economic Development Target Quarterly Report continues uh Main Street program recertification and uh and it's uh deals with um the three representatives uh from the state of uh State Department Community Affairs in Noonan, Georgia, and a meeting they had in March this last quarter. Uh let's see here. [1:02:07, 1:02:12]: [3735.0, 3755.0]: Events Department manages the Merrill Manors Conference Center and of course the total revenue for the past quarter is sixty thousand dollars in reference to that. Preparation for of course for the uh 2025 events uh deals with artist booking for free concerts, vendor coordination, marketing, promotion, sponsorship, outreach, and logistics planning. [1:02:35, 1:02:55]: And uh we just uh we actually had to cancel our our vi final um tasty Tuesday, food truck tasty Tuesday this evening due to to the hate uh to the heat and the safety conditions in reference to how hot it would get in the area. And uh so that's kicked back up uh next uh next year, the second quarter next year. Back to school giveaway was quite a success. Uh [1:02:54, 1:03:14]: A little over a week ago. And then we also had a very successful Juneteenth and Fourth of July celebration. And Bridge Fest is coming here in the fall. Let's see Municipal Court. New citation forwarded to the court, 1,317 citation scheduled for the [1:03:14, 1:03:34]: The court 1698. Cases scheduled for the court 1,344. And those are broken down by individuals and businesses. Red Street was red speed citation scheduled for a virtual court 116. Now this with folks obviously speeding through the school zones, and now schools start starting to work. [1:03:34, 1:03:44]: starts on actually the thirty first, so obviously those recipe cameras will be back on. Uh so you gotta slow down when you're in those uh particular uh areas uh where the school with kids are going to school. [1:03:45, 1:04:05]: Okay, so we got bench trial. We got several things here. Total payments collected though$281,196. Stockbridge finance, our police department. Um highlights uh from the last quarter here says here total arrests 193, felony arrests 40, misdemeanor arrests 153, stolen vehicle. [1:04:05, 1:04:25]: Vehicles that were covered was 19, firearms E's were 26. And we focus, of course, the focus on proactive patrols, high crime areas, saturation, and targeted enforcement efforts. And quite a bit, our code enforcement is doing quite a bit as well. Total cases opened last quarter, 320. [1:04:25, 1:04:45]: 23 cases resolved, 221 of those of those. And some of our top violations, unfortunately, is over overgrown grass grass, street parking, junk motor vehicles, property maintenance, uh, banner displaced um property, let's see, targets uh target neighborhoods with blight health and safety. [1:04:45, 1:04:45]: Safety. [1:04:46, 1:04:48]: Mm, that's just someone highly here. [1:04:50, 1:05:10]: Detective division crime scene. Just total case is 442. Cases cleared 1977 by arrest. Exceptional 12 founded uh says nine here. Um property evidence and items released disposed of is twenty-three. Our police department is very active in and keeping us protected and [1:05:10, 1:05:11]: Safe here, ladies and gentlemen. [1:05:12, 1:05:23]: I mean I'm just uh I can go on and on and on, but I don't want to bore you with all these details, but we're doing very successful things here. Let's see here. Um City Wide Development Authority has a report in here as well. [1:05:25, 1:05:35]: And um let's see here. Doing doing things to for marketing pri and p and public engagement sub subcommittee. And um [1:05:35, 1:05:45]: working on marketing agency through the ED development uh department for billboard ad development on 175 and uh looking through those edits and get those taken care of. [1:05:51, 1:05:53]: Stockbridge Youth Council, our young folks. [1:05:54, 1:06:14]: With the adult leadership. Youth Council has 15 members, eight active members, seven interviewing. Matter of fact, during the interview process for the next uh 2020 25, 26 season. Um I look forward to swearing those young folks in here shortly. And the past activities they've had, uh there's an air area beautification. They've [1:06:14, 1:06:34]: had a Starbert Youth Council uh dinner and discussion and uh and actually in a sense uh wishing those seniors well as they go on to college and other and their next activities in life. And supported, I guess, a Mother's Tea Day, a T T uh Mother's Day tea, excuse me, senior banquet, and they supported the um Father's Day luncheon. [1:06:36, 1:06:46]: Okay. And the distributors just the passing out of the of all the book the book bags and and supplies, distribution, excuse me. [1:06:47, 1:06:47]: All right. [1:06:49, 1:06:50]: Okay. [1:06:50, 1:07:10]: I'll tell you what, I will end that there. Council, you have those uh to look at it. I don't know if there's necessary to have any other staff members come forward, but uh just to give you the highlights, some highlights and reference for the the cumulus here or cumulus listening online. I mean it can get very long-winded, then we go minute line by line. So I'll stop at that point. Um what we have [1:07:10, 1:07:18]: Have next would be the Economic Development Presentation Special Service District presented by um Gerald Sanders and Mr. John Ernst, please. [1:07:27, 1:07:47]: Good evening, Mayor. Council. Good evening. I'm John. I'm joined by John Ernst this evening, who is our consultant and attorney with the special service district. He's no stranger to the city or to the council. The special service district boundary was originally approved by council in October of 2024. So we [1:07:47, 1:07:54]: We have a boundary in place. There is a resolution that was prepared at that time that signifies that. [1:07:55, 1:08:15]: What we're going to do this evening, and Mr. Ernst is actually going to do the presentation. We have a PowerPoint presentation for you. He's going to talk about some of the practical uses of special service district as it can potentially and how it can potentially help the city with some of its funding needs for a number of projects that we have. So without further ado, I'm [1:08:15, 1:08:35]: I'm gonna uh ask him to come to the mic and start his presentation, if you would please. Well, thank you, Gerald. Thank you, uh Mayor and Council for having me here today. Um, you know, oh I got a little thing. Let's see if it works. There you go, it does. Excellent. Um, I was asked to come here, uh as you guys remember. [1:08:34, 1:08:54]: Remember, I was here back in October when we uh when I presented the special service district. You guys uh passed it. Um I have subsequently since working on on uh establishing the district, working with your s former city manager with uh with the the maps, uh getting the maps to the uh tax commissioner. [1:08:54, 1:09:14]: And tax assessors to create the digest for you guys to then decide what you would like to do and what projects you would like to be able to use. Special Service District really is just a tool, a funding tool that cities around the state are just starting to use. [1:09:14, 1:09:34]: Brookhaven City Hall. Um it took from uh basically three years and one month from the time I uh was chicken scratching with the architect to when we actually grant uh opened it, the document uh opened the building. The opening happened on on this Friday. So um you can see other areas. [1:09:34, 1:09:35]: going for the right. [1:09:36, 1:09:56]: Um cities have these are the ones here are the historical funding strategies for cities. It's general fund, general obligation bonds, T SPLOS, TADS, grants. You guys all know this. You've heard about this multiple times. As we all know, grants, especially federal, under this administration. [1:09:56, 1:10:16]: are probably gonna be a little bit further and farther between. Likelihood of getting grants are gonna become smaller, not just for you or city, but for all cities across the country. Um and a special service district can be a way to to help uh to help implement uh the the plans that you guys have. Um like your current city [1:10:16, 1:10:36]: uh about to be current city manager uh space uh stated is you know you have your plans, you align your plans with your financing, um, and then and that's the way you can get projects done and and and and rock it forward. I was brought here s tal a little bit to talk about the um aspects [1:10:35, 1:10:55]: Of you know, of uh you guys had got a presentation about a uh a CID, a community investment uh div uh uh district. And CIDs are great tools that other cities have allotted. Now, the the issues with CIDs is CIDs are made up of the the business owners of that. [1:10:55, 1:11:15]: that area. It is not controlled by the city. They have they may have different priorities than the city can have. You can have both a CID and an SSD on the same pieces of property. There's nothing that stops that. But you know if you want to go down the CID path, that is, you know, this is something you can do. But [1:11:15, 1:11:35]: But all the things that CID can do, an SSD can do. If you want beautification, you can do that. You want a little uh increase in the police presence in that district, you can do that. Um, you want to um build uh pathways or alleyways, uh you can do that um with it. Anything the CID can do. [1:11:35, 1:11:42]: do an SSD can do. And it's and it's just the council itself making the decision on what those priorities are. [1:11:44, 1:11:50]: Again, SSDs are allows elect officials to provide or enhance services in a specific area. [1:11:51, 1:12:03]: Uh I have this little sheet here. Again, it talks about lots of different items of an SSD. Uh the equity. Uh the the community that benefits directly from the new service is the one that's paying for it. [1:12:03, 1:12:23]: Um, you know, but it can benefit uh disadvantaged communities around because um these uh uh this this the funding for this these projects come off of the maybe the general fund and can be uh moved to disadvantaged communities. There's uh no legal limit on SSD rate. Um a bond is just [1:12:23, 1:12:43]: whatever you want with the SSD digest. So you can dream, you know, you uh the only limit is what you guys decide. Um you obviously it's extremely flexible. Um you can do projects, you can do services, you can do multiple different things. You have a a [1:12:43, 1:13:03]: uh steady stream of of revenue that you can budget off of or you can bond off of to get those projects done. And you know, you can team up with other jurisdictions or agencies um uh to to provide those different services like um and so you can team up with counties [1:13:03, 1:13:23]: uh or like i said agencies whether it be i mean um uh your your develop downtown development authority you can uh team up with in even marta or something like that if you wanted to do something transit related so it is uh greatly you know greatly flexible this is the district you guys saw this [1:13:23, 1:13:43]: this district um during this the retreat. This is the exact same thing. Nothing changed in that. Here. And you're also, I believe, right after this, going to be voting just to kind of reiterate the district in this map that you guys [1:13:43, 1:13:49]: passed in October uh in today and I hope you guys uh do pass it. Um [1:13:49, 1:14:09]: This also leads to other different um uh creative financing. You can you use an SSD as a value capture thing. So you can you don't have to you have one s SSD. You can create other SSDs in the layer on top. And one of the great things out there you could do uh value capture is basically say, hey, we put [1:14:09, 1:14:25]: this SSD on, we're doing a project, all that value of the properties, we're not going to tax that that is currently there. But if there's an increase in value, you can put a uh you know a fee on that uh and help recapture some of that value. [1:14:26, 1:14:46]: Again, the belt line is being built. The land belt line everyone talks about is being built by the land of uh by the an SSD. They did a tad initially. It wasn't enough money, so they had to do an SSD. The uh Stitch project that's going out there, uh they're creating SSD for the local match if they get it. Again, Brookhaven City Center, uh [1:14:46, 1:15:06]: I mentioned Avondale uh States has has an SSD and now you guys do too. So at you know at this point it comes into the uh you know factor of um of what do you want to get done um and and plan and and finance and and make those decisions uh when uh the diet [1:15:05, 1:15:12]: I just comes in and um when uh when you get into to m setting rates. So um [1:15:13, 1:15:23]: You know, that's kinda a quick reiteration of what I've spoken for about before. Uh so if I haven't you have you guys any questions, I'm here to answer'em now. [1:15:23, 1:15:43]: I tell you what um you mentioned and I believe uh what I understood you said that SSD and long a CID can be on top of each other in a sense. But I imagine that if we wanted it well, I know with some talk about having a CID, which we I say we'd like to do as well, but I would think that this census d deals with CID and SSD deal with taxing of commercial businesses. [1:15:43, 1:16:03]: You probably wouldn't want to overtax those those closer businesses. Probably wouldn't be a smart thing to do. So we're not going to be able to do that. [1:16:03, 1:16:20]: classifications or even which properties are in the SSD. A CID cannot um be uh you know, cannot uh tax any residential property, cannot um or uh assess any uh residential property whatsoever, including apartments as we discussed in October. So [1:16:20, 1:16:40]: But yes, I would agree with you. The likelihood of layering an SSD and a CID uh all at one time is probably not the smartest political um or financial uh uh best practices. I it's part of Brookhaven CID, duh SSD is on a CID. Um and uh [1:16:40, 1:16:47]: Uh, but they do do completely different services. So they those business owners accepted it. It wasn't the whole whole district. [1:16:48, 1:16:51]: Okay, thank you. Council, any questions? Yeah, go ahead, please. [1:16:52, 1:17:12]: So this the map well thank you sir for your presentation. No problem. The map is illegible. I can't really see it. Um so I need to know specifically the areas. Uh uh the the map is Ben should be presented on your uh resolution uh pro [1:17:12, 1:17:23]: following next that would be for a clearer resolution. I just printed off, you know, I just copied the the the map that I was provided by the city um or put it on there. [1:17:23, 1:17:29]: Are you saying you you desire to have a bigger one? I can't read this. Okay. We'll we'll see if we can get a bigger one. Yeah. [1:17:31, 1:17:43]: Um the next question is for Mr. Edmondson. I want to know has he had the opportunity to review this and what is his suggestion or recommendation for this? [1:17:45, 1:18:05]: Uh yes, ma'am, I did have the opportunity to uh look at the map. In fact, we thought uh along with the clerk, um this been approved a while ago. However, the map was not attached to the resolution, but we thought for transparency and clarity that they need to repres uh repr present this and include the map so that we could go ahead and move forward with it. But I have looked at it. [1:18:05, 1:18:11]: Um, I just want to make sure it was clean and everybody crystal clear on what that map looks like to attach to that resolution. So [1:18:14, 1:18:14]: Okay. [1:18:17, 1:18:22]: I can I can have the uh a larger copy printed out to eleven by seventeen. [1:18:22, 1:18:24]: That'd be better for you, ma'am? Okay, we can do that. [1:18:25, 1:18:25]: Yeah. [1:18:26, 1:18:43]: Or yeah, if it's not on your computer or or anything like that, you could blow it up individually. It has not changed from the one that was presented to the council at the retreat. It is the same map. It it is the exact same map. Yeah, it just wasn't approved and we want to make sure [1:18:43, 1:19:01]: that for the record it was a formally approved to be a part of the resolution. But it was already passed, but I didn't want y you know, it to come back up and somebody said, well, we didn't even vote on this map. So uh it was advised to put it back on this agenda to make sure that it got voted on the right way. [1:19:01, 1:19:02]: Yes, ma'am. [1:19:04, 1:19:05]: Any other questions, Councilman? [1:19:06, 1:19:06]: Okay. [1:19:08, 1:19:28]: Thank you very much. Presentation is fantastic, Mr. Ernst. Thank you, sir. Thank you guys. Look forward to working with you guys more in the future with this. Absolutely. Thank you. Actually, what what is next now is economic development presentation, special service district, and um okay, I'm sorry, the SSD map itself, the district that we just talked about. Right. So in a reference to a [1:19:28, 1:19:48]: Uh a motion to accept that and and to add it to that resolution to clean up everything. So that is correct. And mayor, I would just like to mention that you all did approve a resolution back in 2024 uh out of an abundance of caution and consulting with the city attorney and as mr as the new city manager mentioned, we're giving you we're asking you to approve an updated resolution. [1:19:48, 1:20:08]: That's in your package along with the map. Uh my understanding was is that previously when the resolution was approved, the map was missing. And so what we want to do this evening is get you to approve an updated resolution along with the same map that you've uh that was that that encompasses the district. So that's the clarification. [1:20:08, 1:20:09]: All right. [1:20:34, 1:20:36]: Okay, zero. [1:20:36, 1:20:38]: Okay. Gotcha. Gotcha. [1:20:43, 1:20:46]: So is there a motion to accept this now that you can see it and view it? [1:20:50, 1:20:51]: Motion to approve. [1:20:51, 1:20:52]: Sir a second. [1:20:53, 1:20:56]: I second. Ms. Cannon Fair please indicate. [1:20:58, 1:21:03]: Okay, you now have a decision. Thank you very much. Thank you, Daryl. Ms. Ernst, appreciate it. [1:21:06, 1:21:19]: What's next? New business council consideration to fill vacancies to appoint a member of the Main Street Advisory Board to fill the remainder of the term. And it says Megan here. Okay. [1:21:20, 1:21:36]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Good evening. There is a vacancy on the Main Street Advisory Board. Um and we are asking that you guys consider filling that vacancy. Um there has been one vacancy and one application. [1:21:36, 1:21:40]: for you to consider. Um that application is from Mr. Jalen Holman. [1:21:42, 1:21:51]: Um the background check has returned as clean and the Main Street Advisory Board recommends approval and the economic development uh committee re also recommends approval. [1:21:52, 1:21:53]: Mayor. Yes, sir. [1:21:54, 1:22:14]: I would like to recommend Jalen Holman for this job. Jalen is a landscape architect. Young man grew up right across the street from his parents, raised him along with my son in my in my neighborhood, and they are the salt of the earth of the community. And Jalen is a wonderful young man that went off to the University of Georgia. [1:22:14, 1:22:21]: Georgia and he works uh as a landscape architect and he'd be a great addition to this board. So move. [1:22:21, 1:22:23]: Okay. Is there a second? [1:22:25, 1:22:26]: For Mr. Alexander two. [1:22:29, 1:22:30]: Mm. [1:22:30, 1:22:32]: Mr. Bairsecond, I'll fairly please indicate. [1:22:34, 1:22:38]: Okay, it's an unanimous decision. Thank you very much. And welcome to uh Mr. Holman. [1:22:39, 1:22:39]: Okay. [1:22:41, 1:22:44]: Text amendment, case T X two zero [1:22:44, 1:23:04]: Two five-01 citywide first reading. Council consideration of the Text Amendment to amend Title Twelve Unified Development Code, Section 2.5.3 E and Section 2.5.3 F to the City Stockbridge Code of Ordinances relating to a downtown village DT overlay district so as to add certain uses uh [1:23:04, 1:23:24]: to the list of special uses requiring a special use permit, and to remove certain uses from the list of prohibited uses to allow them to now be permitted uses, provided that certain requirements are met to provide for severity, seribility of excuse me, to repeal conflicting ordinances. [1:23:24, 1:23:44]: To provide an effective date and other purposes. Mr. Anderson, please. Good evening. Um, this is um the latest step. If I could. All right. So this downtown overlay, what brought it forward? You brought it forward or it was a brought it forward. [1:23:44, 1:23:55]: Bringing it forward, but it's also needed to facilitate the development of the three acres across from City Hall. Okay. Across from Eastern Land. So this was generated by community development? Yes. Okay, thank you. [1:23:55, 1:24:00]: But um this is just a presentation of the night. Um we'll bring it back for the public hearing uh on August eleventh. [1:24:01, 1:24:02]: Okay. [1:24:02, 1:24:22]: So I'll I'll be I'll go through this real fast. You know in um planning and zoning, um a zoning ordinance is considered a living document. So from time to time you would need to amend it to improve the document. Uh our zoning ordinance is currently um three years old. It was approved in uh March of 2022. Uh that was right before I got here in nursing. [1:24:22, 1:24:42]: Some things that are included in that zoning ordinance that r really aren't applicable to the city of Stockbridge. Uh the current zoning ordinance were was written in uh with a for an established, more like an established city instead of a a growing city like the city of Stockbridge. So there are some things in there that really need to be changed and [1:24:42, 1:24:47]: And modernize and um to make more applicable to the city of Stockbridge. [1:24:48, 1:24:53]: So uh this is about our fifth text amendment since I've been here. So um [1:24:55, 1:24:56]: Um [1:24:57, 1:25:00]: This is for the downtown village overlay. Uh [1:25:01, 1:25:09]: I can't, I'm stuck. Okay. So here's a a current map of the uh downtown village overlay district. It's shown in um [1:25:10, 1:25:12]: And allalic and in the lavender is the PMU. [1:25:13, 1:25:21]: Also, uh about six months ago we did amend um the PMU to make certain um uses there were uh [1:25:21, 1:25:31]: permitted to make those uses um uh available by special use permit and uh to give council more discretion in um the the development that goes on into in t in the city. [1:25:33, 1:25:36]: These are the rules and regulations of the um [1:25:37, 1:25:41]: in uh of the downtown overlay village. I'm not gonna read all this for the sake of time. [1:25:43, 1:26:03]: The purpose of the downtown village overlay district is to recognize and affirm the function of the existing traditional downtown as the central focus of commercial, artesian, and civic activities within the community, to allow the existing downtown to flourish, intensify, and expand wherever it may be appropriate in a manner that is consistent with its traditional. [1:26:03, 1:26:20]: character to provide a local retail service, artesian, and civic community for the community. And currently those three goals and purposes of of the downtown Overlay District conflicts with the text that was written for the downtown Overlay District. So we're trying to improve upon that. [1:26:22, 1:26:29]: The current regulations for the downtown uh village overlay district is governed by section two point five three of the s unified development code. [1:26:32, 1:26:46]: Permitted uses, all permitted uses as provided within the downtown district are applic are permitted in the DT overlay district. Residential units which are located on upper floors above and or to the rear of commercial or office uses. [1:26:47, 1:27:07]: Special uses in the DT Overlay District. Um, special uses, all special uses as provided in the downtown district. The downtown district is the zoning district, and uh the the DTV overlay district sits on top of that. Uh bed and breakfast establishment, multifamily residential buildings, passenger depot. [1:27:07, 1:27:12]: pose and transit shelters, single family residences, uh, [1:27:13, 1:27:20]: Temporary uses in the DT overlay uh district. You have carnival fairs and other similar activities of a temporary nature. [1:27:20, 1:27:40]: Food, trucks, and similar temporary vendors, outdoor recreational and/or educational opportunities and sidewalk sales. Prohibited uses, current prohibitive uses in the DTV, adult entertainment establishment, boarding and rooming homes, catering establishment, child and adult daycare centers, consignment and thrift stores. [1:27:40, 1:27:46]: Family daycare homes, payday loans, title loans, money cash exchanges. [1:27:47, 1:28:01]: Places of worship, public and private schools and related facilities, restaurants with drive-through facilities and/or windows, tobacco and vape shops, tattoos and piercing, and extended stay hotels. The proposed changes by the planning and zoning staff. [1:28:03, 1:28:23]: To amend Title 12 of the UDC Section 2.53E and Section 2.53F for the downtown village overlay district to accomplish accomplish the following. One, add certain uses to the list of special uses requiring a special permit. Number two, remove certain uses from the list of prohibited uses. [1:28:23, 1:28:43]: And allow them to now be permitted uses, provided that certain requirements are met. Reasoning behind staff proposing these changes are businesses are interested in locating certain uses in the DT overlay district, but they are currently not allowed. For instance, you couldn't uh develop the city-owned property across the street, the three acres. [1:28:43, 1:28:56]: because multifamily is not allowed. Two, such uses are already allowed within the adjacent PMU overlay district along North Herring Boulevard. So um the DT [1:28:57, 1:29:05]: The overlay district connects with the PMU, but certain uses are allowed in the PMU that are not allowed in the uh [1:29:05, 1:29:19]: in the DTB overlay but are allowed in the Parkway Mixed Use Overlay District. So the proposed actions what we're proposing tonight is to remove and replace the existing section 2.53 E and section 2.53 F. [1:29:21, 1:29:35]: Um special uses to be added to the DTV overlay district. Currently you can have gasoline stations, minor automotive services, repair, maintenance cars, car washes, convenience center uh stores, and other associated uses. [1:29:36, 1:29:50]: They're permitted by right. So what we're proposing is that these uses now will require a special use permit, meaning that they will now have to have to come before city council to get approval to open those type of businesses within the downtown uh overlay district. [1:29:52, 1:30:05]: Currently, gasoline stations, minor automotive service repair, maintenance centers, car washes, convenience stores, and other associated uses are permitted by right currently. [1:30:05, 1:30:07]: In the downtown village overlay district. [1:30:08, 1:30:10]: So we're we are proposing is to make those [1:30:11, 1:30:19]: Uh uh permitted by a special use permit, meaning that they will have to come before city council to get approval and take away the the the the right. [1:30:19, 1:30:20]: To do it. [1:30:22, 1:30:39]: That's the same thing we did to the Parkway mixed use overlay district um about seven or eight months ago. Restaurants, takeout establishments, banks, and pharmacies with drive-through facilities and or windows would be allowed with a special use permit and other uses to be determined by the community development director. [1:30:42, 1:31:02]: Proposed list of special uses to be allowed in the DTV overlay district with a special use permit. Um those that are on the screen that are appearing by red. Um all special uses that's provided in the downtown district, which is the zoning district, bed and breakfast establishments, gasoline. [1:31:02, 1:31:22]: Station, minor automo automotive service, repair, maintenance centers, car washes, convenience stores, and other associated will now require a special use permit. They are already permitted in the zoning district, which is the downtown district, but the overlay district, like I said, sits on top of the overlay district and has some additional restrictions. [1:31:22, 1:31:26]: So multifamily residential buildings would now be allowed. [1:31:26, 1:31:27]: In the downtown. [1:31:28, 1:31:35]: And in the downtown overlay district. This is for to facilitate the development of the three acres that the city owns across from City Hall. [1:31:35, 1:31:55]: Passenger depots and transit shelters, restaurants, takeout establishment, banks, and pharmacies with drive-through facilities, annual window, single family residences, and other special uses. So this is a list of changes that we're proposing that would now require a special use permit by city council. Question. Yes, sir. So while [1:31:55, 1:32:06]: Why w uh I'm I'm I'm curious the single the single family residents, why would that need a special purpose? Why is that why would that be added? Because currently single family residents aren't allowed. [1:32:09, 1:32:18]: They are here. They're grandfathered in, but currently they're not allowed if you want to build a new single family residence in the downtown district. So we want to make that uh permitted use. [1:32:18, 1:32:38]: With a special use permit so that someone could build a single family or single family residences downtown. Yes, sir. In this area. And this yeah, and uh that's why I'm saying we're trying to improve the existing code. So that's why we're gonna go. [1:32:38, 1:32:58]: in the zoning ordinance. So we're we're currently going through the zoning ordinances, uh looking at ways to improve it because the the the document was just adopted by council in 2022. And then when and it wouldn't look good for us to do a total rewrite of the of the code. But the code really is is not uh applicable to a growing city like Stockbridge. It's more [1:32:58, 1:33:03]: in line with an established city. So there's some things in there that really needs to be changed. [1:33:03, 1:33:17]: So l let me ask you a question. So instead of just making it a special use permit, why wouldn't you just put it in the zoning, you know, and then allow it to fli like the rest of the city to be able to prove it through a rezoning? [1:33:17, 1:33:37]: I mean we could add to the uh yeah. See that's why it's a presentation to get your input on the stuff. Right, because I mean I don't want somebody comes with a good special um single family residence for the downtown area. They shouldn't have to come to us to get it approved. They should be able to look at the zoning to ascertain whether that project is appropriate under that particular zone. [1:33:37, 1:33:57]: zoning. Now if they wanted to rezone it to a higher intense use, then probably they would probably need to come to us. But I wouldn't expect every single family neighborhood to have to come to us. But it's also good to have it, I mean not not trying to go against you, but it's also good to um have it as a special use permit because someone might purchase some land downtown in an area. [1:33:57, 1:33:58]: [5639.8, 5645.7]: uh single family residents to go. So that's why it would be good for them to come before council to get the council's blessing on that. [1:34:07, 1:34:27]: It it's it yeah, you're right, it's a ch it's kinda like a uh uh it could go both ways, but in the end so what was the res we've had have we had that situation occur where somebody wanted to bring single family in, they couldn't where that wouldn't be. [1:34:27, 1:34:33]: um build a single family residence on it, but code prohibited it. So that was one instance since I've been here. [1:34:34, 1:34:48]: Okay, so what you're basically saying is that if someone wanted to be a residential on a potential commercial lot They they would have to get a r seek a rezoning and come be come before counsel for a rezoning and for a special use permit. [1:34:49, 1:35:07]: Right, in a certain area, but but that would be that would have to be a commercial use changing to a residential use. But if it was already a residential use that was determined on the map as a residential use, why should they have to come to us for that? And they don't have to do that anywhere else in the city. [1:35:08, 1:35:15]: I mean that's why I'm s that's why we're here to to amend the code, the current code prohibits single family residents in the downtown district. [1:35:15, 1:35:35]: Right, but my my I think it would be a better choice just to have it be if it's a residential lot, it's already residential, to put it to put it put it in the zoning code as residential, you could be able to determine the based on the zoning whether it's appropriate or not, if they wanted to change that residential zoning and then [1:35:35, 1:35:55]: Their district, then they would have to come to it. Yes, I understand what you're saying, but that's that would be uh fairly infrequent because most of the zoning downtown is DT, downtown uh zoning. Uh the DTV is the overlay district that sits on top of the downtown uh zoning district. So most of everything downtown is DT. [1:35:56, 1:35:58]: Yes. Yeah. Go ahead, please. [1:35:59, 1:36:19]: What what are passenger depots and uh like transit shelters? This is like um bus stops or things of that nature. Similar to a bus stop or a place, a centralized place where where a bus could come and pick people up, or where like a Uber drop off station or something like that. Okay. So that's that's some modern [1:36:19, 1:36:39]: On things that um most cities have centralized places for uh pickup. Okay. So I can um I can support that. I do not support letter H giving you discretion to make that decision. Yeah. I don't support that at all. I understand. Considering these are recommendations that you're making to [1:36:39, 1:36:53]: us and these special use permits will have to be presented to the council for us to make a decision. There's no need for letter H. Okay. I understand. Um the other question I had though, and you mentioned it. [1:36:53, 1:37:06]: Um with the restricted uses for tire shops, barbershops, hair salons, nail salons, car washes, is that one of the restricted uses currently? Uh gas. [1:37:06, 1:37:11]: Currently you can have those by permit their permitted uses. Currently you can you can do it by right. [1:37:12, 1:37:13]: So we're [1:37:13, 1:37:15]: We're proposing that they have to come before council. [1:37:16, 1:37:18]: So currently right now [1:37:18, 1:37:23]: If it meets all other standards, they can they can put a gas station, they can put a automobile repair. [1:37:23, 1:37:30]: All that within the downtown village overlay district. Okay, I don't want that. So that's why we're that's why we're proposing to change that. [1:37:30, 1:37:32]: Okay. We don't want that. Yes. [1:37:33, 1:37:34]: We don't want [1:37:35, 1:37:49]: Hair salons, nail salons, bait shops. Well have that car shops. We don't even want car washes in our downtown area. We'll have room for one anyway. Yeah, uh yes, they would have to to come before you to get a special use permit. [1:37:51, 1:37:57]: I don't want to allow that even for them to request a special use permit. [1:37:58, 1:38:01]: None of these particular establishments [1:38:02, 1:38:03]: Will I support? [1:38:03, 1:38:05]: Okay. [1:38:05, 1:38:14]: Um, they request a special use permit and it has to be presented to the council. I'm not gonna support a special use permit. [1:38:14, 1:38:15]: For a tile tar shop. [1:38:16, 1:38:19]: barbershop, hair salon, nail salon, [1:38:19, 1:38:39]: car wash, vape shop, or any other automobile type service repair shop, not in the downtown. Yes, I understand, but currently if they meet the right requirements, they can build one by right. And there's nothing they wouldn't even have to go through zoning. Right now it's uh it's permitted by right. [1:38:39, 1:38:41]: So we're trying to restrict it somewhat. [1:38:41, 1:38:53]: Okay. So that's the that's what we're trying to do. Right now if they find the right piece of land downtown and it meets the the distance requirement and they want to put a a uh automobile repair, they can just go right through zoning. [1:38:54, 1:39:01]: But we're trying to restrict it a little bit, making them r making the developer have to get a special use permit to come to can before council before that could be done. [1:39:02, 1:39:17]: All right, good morning. I don't want I'm not done. If I can finish it. Go ahead, please. Go ahead, finish. Um so I y you mean just like the what is it, the Texaco or is that a Shale gas station or North Henry? Um The Shale? [1:39:17, 1:39:36]: Is that a share? Yeah, that was grandfathered in, yeah. That was grandfathered in, yes. Okay. But see, now we're we're proposing to make those uh you can only have those with a special use permit. But now they're they're permitted by right. If somebody finds the right amount of land and wanna and they're and they meet the distance requirement, they can build a sh a shale gas station in downtown. [1:39:36, 1:39:40]: Okay. I don't want that. I wouldn't support that. Um [1:39:41, 1:40:01]: So let's see. Did you say that um this is just a presentation and you're asking us to vote? No, not a vote tonight. This is just a presentation to get counsel input and feedback on the on the final document. This is just a draft document. So once we take your input, staff is taking notes and we'll go back and touch this. [1:40:01, 1:40:07]: up and then we'll bring it back before you on August eleventh for the final vote. But this is just a presentation. [1:40:07, 1:40:09]: Gotcha. Thank you. All right. [1:40:10, 1:40:11]: Hi, Mr. Azan. [1:40:12, 1:40:32]: Uh you know, I think what I wanna get to is that those uses sh should most of them should already be prohibited under the distance usage. That's why we established them. I mean yes. There's a car minor repair in downtown Stockbridge right now. So they're already grandpa that it that the mileage distance there couldn't be there's [1:40:32, 1:40:52]: Two there now, so there couldn't be another one. Yes, but yeah, if one of them was say for one of'em went out of b went out of business and they wanted to reopen, we w they would have to come back before council get special use permit to right. So it would be a combination of things. I wouldn't want one to go away and then have the other ones. I would certainly want to make sure that those limits [1:40:52, 1:41:12]: were in place that we've already put in place on the vape shops, on the tire shops, all of those limits have distance limits already. I would want those to stay in in place. Yes. In addition to this, I would not want them to replace it or for them to go away. Because uh but we need to make sure that we're enforcing them. Yes [1:41:12, 1:41:32]: also important to understand that along Northern Boulevard, as you see the PMU, the plan uh the the PMU designation, uh, or the overlay or the parkway ordinance is is really um I'm not sure how the shell got grandfather then under that. I was trying [1:41:31, 1:41:42]: figure that out myself. They were they were approved under the previous director and um and they kept renewing their uh business I mean their uh LDP. [1:41:43, 1:41:49]: So they w they were approved way back when we before we adopted the highway over. Yeah, before March twenty twenty two. [1:41:49, 1:42:00]: Before we adopted the new UDC with the parkway mixed use overlay dishes. Well, we we adopted the part the original highway corridor plan in like twenty seventeen. But it was permi it was permitted on the under that one. [1:42:01, 1:42:21]: Okay, so I just um all of those restrictions and the overlays work very well in combination with what we're trying to do to move the city in a different direction to establish a higher quality of businesses and to make sure that we're not saturated with unwanted businesses and repeat businesses, you know. [1:42:21, 1:42:41]: certainly uh those distance limits as we're trying uh you know someone wanted to bring forward another uh a use uh I'm not gonna say that uh in terms of on on North Henry Boulevard we already have seven of them. They wanted to have another one and they wanted to s because they w because uh technically they wanted to appeal it but I certainly [1:42:41, 1:43:01]: What is going to support that? Because in the end, we why would we set the limit? And then every time somebody came to us, we wanted to override it and then say, okay, since it's somebody I know or somebody a friend of mine, then okay, well, let's open up number seven, but we won't do it for everybody. So that's not something that I want to see done. And I want to make sure that we're going to be able to do [1:43:01, 1:43:21]: We're doing this and that we're staying in line with the the the restricted usage, which there's a list of restrictions that are by designation uh by distance and uh car wash, we set a car wash restriction on the on limit, we set a um a limit on and [1:43:21, 1:43:39]: And then though there was supposed to be one coming back to us on storage facilities. Yes. I don't recall that one coming back to us. I mean we got a list of text amendments we're working on. So we'll we'll be coming back. So we're just knocking them down as as the zoning season slow up a little bit. [1:43:39, 1:43:41]: Yeah, go ahead please. [1:43:42, 1:43:47]: Ma'am. Are you gonna provide us with a map because there's not a downtown village overlay? [1:43:49, 1:43:55]: Okay, yeah, I will provide you one in the final in the when uh when we re upload. But here's the map right here. [1:43:59, 1:44:00]: Just stand by. [1:44:02, 1:44:04]: You good? Okay. All right. [1:44:04, 1:44:06]: As as we're going on this [1:44:07, 1:44:12]: It may not have been uh but uh but I get it to you. I I I get it to you. All right. [1:44:12, 1:44:32]: As we're going along with this, the one thing that I like to see us do is to work on the sign ordinance in downtown. Yeah, we that's that's on that's because right now uh the signage is very unattractive. And to me, they should be uh there should be individual letters attached to the building. That should be the standard like what we have at the amphitheater. [1:44:32, 1:44:44]: there mm where those are channel those are channel letter, no box signs, everything should be of high quality materials. And it should it should the amphitheater should be the template [1:44:44, 1:44:52]: from where we're trying to go, where we jump across the tracks and say, Okay, this is where we are. Because you know, having a box sign with a l uh with a [1:44:53, 1:45:13]: It it is low quality in every aspect and we need to update that. Yeah, so s staff is currently working on a um RFP to update the UDC, not to do a major rewrite, but to do a um an update. So we have X amount of dollars set aside for that. So we'll be coming after we select the vendor to do that, we'll we should be coming back um [1:45:13, 1:45:18]: before uh council, probably around October to get council to approve, whoever we select. [1:45:19, 1:45:32]: Okay, and as we move along with the wayfinding and the br and the branding uh for the city. Now I love the new signs that we chose, the ones that are going in downtown. I would like to see [1:45:33, 1:45:41]: on one that are going in downtown, but they're gonna go all over the city. I would like that to be a requirement that everybody, that e every new sign, [1:45:41, 1:46:01]: carry the branding, carry the when the new neighborhoods are created, that they would have similar signage and that that would be a staple. And when you go anywhere throughout Stockbridge, that that signage would be would match up with what we're trying to do with the new signage, the new parking signage, the new directional signage. Yes sir. I I agree, yeah. Okay. [1:46:01, 1:46:17]: To to make that happen then what we would have to do an amendment on that to make that happen? Uh no, uh actually uh in the RFP we're working on, we're uh we're um requiring the consultant to update our sign ordinance. So we'll take that input and pass it along and get it in that rewrite. [1:46:18, 1:46:23]: Okay. So we'll definitely get we got a we have a list of all the things that we need to correct with the UDC. So we will do that. [1:46:26, 1:46:46]: Okay. And you have no other comments, sir. Okay. So that's the end of that one. Okay, so we'll go on to the next one. Text amendment uh TX two zero two five-zero two citywide. First reading council consideration of text amendment for personal care homes to replace sections three point two point two eight and three point two point two nine in chapter three of the stop region. [1:46:46, 1:47:06]: Unified Development Code UDC to create a new section to combine, revise, and augment the provisions, standards, licensing, regulation, and oversight for personal care homes. To amend Chapter 9.70 within Title IX of Stockbridge Code of Ordinances, to add a new section which allows for the pre provisions, standards, licensing, [1:47:06, 1:47:26]: Regulation oversight of the personal care homes as are distinguished from daycare centers, family daycare centers, and group daycare center homes within the city of Stockbridge to establish supplemental use of standards of personal care homes for one to six unrelated adults to identify zoning districts which such uses are permitted. [1:47:26, 1:47:41]: permitted by a special use permit to establish compliance operational and developmental standards to amend the home occupation section and for other purposes. Currently the city of Stockbridge has no mechanism for licensing and regulating personal care homes. Please, Mr. Anderson. [1:47:41, 1:48:01]: Yes, uh Merriam, I'm gonna summarize this just for sake of time. Sure. Um the Business License Department in the community and business license division within the community development department is governed by two documents: the Unified Development Code and the City Code of Ordinances. The Unified Development Code, which was adopted in March 2022. [1:48:01, 1:48:03]: P allows for personal care homes. [1:48:04, 1:48:24]: With a special use permit. However, the City Code of Ordinances doesn't allow us to issue a business license for that. So I worked in a lot of different municipalities, and every municipality I worked in do allow personal care homes with with a special use permit and with distance. [1:48:24, 1:48:44]: requirements and et cetera. So what we've done, what staff done, we crafted some regular some standards and regulations to go along with what the UDC says, and we need councils to basically remove the conflict that does not allow the business license division to issue [1:48:44, 1:48:48]: um occupational tax license for a um a personal care home. [1:48:48, 1:49:08]: Okay. Thank you. Go ahead, sir. Let me say this. I I'm certainly supportive of doing what I saw um at uh the New Well where we were, uh over on Rock Quarry. That certainly was a commercial building, but I'm not in support of putting these in residential areas. And certainly we had we were [1:49:08, 1:49:19]: we're going to be able to put um a requ we had re approved a map in the areas that we wanted these uh facilities to go. I'm not trying to lower the barrier. [1:49:19, 1:49:39]: To allow something that we don't want and the residents don't want. Okay. So the idea, what I would like to see, if you ask me, is to be able to put something together where we have certain areas like again, the uh the the New Well was in a right area. It was right there. It took over a commercial business. They were able to [1:49:39, 1:49:59]: to get up and run and they're performing a magnificent service. Right now they have thirty thirty four, thirty four thirty thirty four and they have openings for another fifteen or sixteen improved transportation. That's the appropriate approach that I would like to see. So councilmember Alexander, that's that's not in question right now. The um [1:49:59, 1:50:19]: The UDC already provides and restricts where these personal care homes can go. So it's already, it was the UDC was adopted by council in March 2022. So by law, we have to allow these, but the city code of ordinance does not allow us to issue a business license. [1:50:19, 1:50:39]: I know that it's already approved. Well, I I understand that. I'm not trying to change the rules to make it easier for an applicant to put one in a residential area because we don't we can deal with that in that way. That's not what I'm trying to do. I'm sorry. That's not what I'm trying to do. Okay. So we have um it it won't [1:50:39, 1:50:42]: [6645.1, 6655.1]: on an area that is citizen primarily commercial and or mixed use or something like that. But in an established elemental neighborhood, we got [1:50:55, 1:51:03]: Let me let me go through uh the um the regulations for you. Maybe you you'll feel a little bit com more comfortable. They have to have two acres of land. [1:51:07, 1:51:27]: Uh personal care home, uh we define as a residential facility providing assistance to individuals who need help with daily activities but who do not require the level of medical care found in nursing homes. Personal care homes are per are provided to no more than six nonfamily adults. Personal care service include but are not limited to individual assistance. [1:51:27, 1:51:28]: [6688.5, 6704.1]: or supervision, self-administered medication, and essential activities of daily living such as eating, bathing, grooming, dressing, and toileting. A personal care home may not provide nursing or other medical services or admit and retain residents who need continuous medical or nursing care. [1:51:46, 1:51:55]: Each personal care home must have an administrator who's responsible on a 24-hour day basis, seven days a week, 365 days a year, and must live on site. [1:51:58, 1:52:00]: Code of ordinances Section nine point [1:52:02, 1:52:22]: The applicable city codes of ordinances regulating. Section 9.70.020 of the Stockbridge Munich Code, which is part of Title IX for licensing regulations, provide definitions for daycare centers, family care centers, and group daycare homes, but not specifically for personal care homes. That's why we can't issue the license. [1:52:22, 1:52:42]: even though zoning they you can get zoning approval with a special use permit, but we we don't have the authority to issue a business license. This should have been um worked out when the code was when um the zoning code was first uh the drafted the um the consultant should have gone and looked at the city code of ordinances [1:52:42, 1:52:47]: and contrasted that contrasted that with what they were doing. But there were a lot of conflicts [1:52:50, 1:52:58]: So uh here's the table right now uh for um that's already allowed in the city of Stockbridge right now for personal care homes. [1:53:00, 1:53:01]: It can be an R R [1:53:01, 1:53:16]: with a special use permit. Suburban residential with a with a special use permit. Center center uh central city residential with a special use permit. MFR with a special use permit. OI with a special use permit. [1:53:19, 1:53:25]: Uh I'm sorry, I'm uh minimum site area they must have I said two acres, they must have one acre. [1:53:27, 1:53:47]: One acre of land must meet the zoning setback requirements. Must be a single family home, freestanding structure, or within a religious facility. It can be one to six unrelated adults, 24-hour supervision, two parking spaces plus one ADA space per non-resident. No parking shall be allowed in the front. [1:53:47, 1:53:52]: front yard setback. A six foot privacy fence shall be installed around the perimeter and sides of the house. [1:53:53, 1:54:13]: And must have minimum square footage of 2,250 square feet. The exterior appearance of any residential structure for which a personal care home is approved shall be maintained as a residential and no sign shall be erected. Central HVAC system in good working condition. Facility must include accessible features as ramp, grab, [1:54:13, 1:54:21]: Bars and clear path to travel in accordance with ADA. And flock cameras must be installed with 363 coverage around the structure. [1:54:24, 1:54:38]: These are the other standards and um w we're considered a it is a as a regulated business in the city of Stockbridge and they w must pay an annual fifteen hundred dollar fee. Uh they have to have a security plan, uh other security measure measures [1:54:40, 1:54:40]: Um [1:54:42, 1:54:45]: So but like I I I previously mentioned, um [1:54:49, 1:55:09]: Currently, the city already allows for personal care homes within the city as part of the unified development code. The only issue here is a conflict within the city code of ordinances that prohibits us from issuing a bit a business license for that. But I was advised that. [1:55:09, 1:55:29]: But usually you go with the the last adopted code, which would be uh the UDC. So the UDC was adopted in 2022, which make it's it's the prevailing uh document. It takes precedence over the city code of ordinances. But we wanted to bring this to council. We didn't just didn't want to make that decision. [1:55:29, 1:55:34]: So I'm finished with my presentation. [1:55:34, 1:55:35]: Yes, ma'am, go ahead, please. [1:55:36, 1:55:43]: I know that personal care homes um is something that we we needed in my district. [1:55:43, 1:55:59]: Mm. You are aware of the situation with a homeowner. I've been gonna lie. Who's been waiting for this council to adopt some type of ordinance so that she can move forward with her personal care home. Uh it's been over a year. Or close to. [1:56:00, 1:56:20]: And year. I want to get this matter resolved as quickly as possible. There are state laws that govern this. Yeah, there are the fact that the city didn't have the ordinances in place to allow for it. Ma'am, we we didn't have we didn't have the regulations in place, but we had the the the the the right, you could have a right to open up a personal care [1:56:20, 1:56:36]: It's a business license that you couldn't issue. Could not issue a business license. So we want to resolve that conflict. I mean every every community in the state of Georgia allows for personal care homes. So I've been getting a lot of calls from uh the state, state, our local delegation. Um [1:56:37, 1:56:42]: So they've they've been doing a lot of complaining, uh Yes, we need to get this get this done. [1:56:42, 1:57:02]: resolved as quickly as possible. I do want to ask though about a distance requirement. Yes, there's a distance requirement. What do you think? It's currently most places have you can't have one fifteen hundred feet within each other, but we'll I'll even go up to our standard forty five hundred feet. I'll change it to forty five hundred feet, but usually it's fifteen hundred feet apart. [1:57:02, 1:57:22]: That's what most municipalities have. Okay. So but thank you. Yeah, but it's it's state law. We can't w so we just got to resolve the conflict. And uh I think we have some pretty stringent criteria. Um uh you can't you wouldn't be able to tell if if if one person is living there because they won't have any signage, it'll look just like a regular home. [1:57:22, 1:57:42]: So um yes, sir. Oh I I'm sorry, mayor had to recognize it. No, no, no. The only issue with the business license is that it was omitted from the list of the other types of homes and that this particular one, so it's literally just like a a snap food. Yeah, a scribbler's like a scribner's error. But um [1:57:42, 1:58:02]: So it just needs to be added to that one section. I mean all other city documents provide for personal care homes. Uh so but we took advantage of this to tighten up the standards um for requiring flock cameras and security, um making it have to be at least one acre in um and one allowment in a [1:58:02, 1:58:22]: a traditional subdivision, an existing subdivision. Are the standards the same whether it's personal care, uh and the other types that w that w that are approved for business like uh no because uh not exactly because you can't have uh a daycare with a couple of kids in your house in a existing uh yeah [1:58:22, 1:58:33]: subdivision. So but we we restricted this um as best we could to still comply with state law. I but um it's something we we won't have a choice but to do. [1:58:35, 1:58:36]: Okay, thank you. All right. [1:58:37, 1:58:45]: I didn't really quit Mayor Four. When are you gonna bring this back to us as a final On the eleven. On the eleven it'll be a public hearing. [1:58:46, 1:58:46]: Thank you. [1:58:48, 1:58:55]: Okay. But I I was just trying to get council input on any proposed changes, but this is something we we we have to do. So it's [1:58:56, 1:58:57]: Please uh I just uh one [1:58:57, 1:58:59]: Okay. [1:58:59, 1:59:19]: I understand where we are and uh those uses would be to me would be in in certain areas to be mandated and and and allowed. Certainly we would allow them in the community. We would allow them in the community, but not in in in every in [1:59:19, 1:59:20]: In [1:59:22, 1:59:42]: Certain in resid in certain residential districts where we would we would not allow it, whether that was what if that's permissible, that we would have certain areas where we would identify this is the place in the city where we would want to place this. Yes, sir. Because there's no way around it. This is putting a resid this is putting a commercial business into a residential business. [1:59:41, 2:00:01]: Neighborhood. There's no way around it. You can paint it pink if you want to, but it's still a commercial business being put next door to someone who lives there. However, we want to couch it. It is a commercial business next door to me. And that neighbor is going to have a commercial business next door to [2:00:01, 2:00:21]: them. Now the fifteen hundred square feet is for if somebody wants to build another one. Yeah, but we go but literally the person who owns this business next door to them on both sides of them, it could be resid it could be residents that own their home. But they can't you can't put it in a subdivision and you have to have at least one acre of land. It can't go into like [2:00:21, 2:00:30]: Your your subdivision. I'm just using you as an example. They couldn't put a personal care home in your subdivision. Right. They can only it has to be a an existing house. [2:00:31, 2:00:36]: U a an existing uh detached single family detached on at least a acre of land. [2:00:36, 2:00:42]: So what what is that what it what w what what is was that fit it with a current application that we have? [2:00:42, 2:01:02]: Uh yeah, that current application does meet that. It's not in a subdivision. And uh it's they have more than an acre of land. So this neighborhood, we're doing all of this for to comply with the one that was uh was submitted to us? No, not not necessarily to Council Member Malaysia. We're doing this to comply with state law. So it it must have been a script. [2:01:02, 2:01:22]: criminals error or something in the city code of ordinances that that did not uh address personal care homes to allow us to issue issue a business license. But it's everywhere else in our other city documents. But we decided to bring it to council to get council approval and they still would need to come before council to get a special use permit. [2:01:22, 2:01:33]: to even get a personal care home license. They couldn't just say I I found the a a house with an acre of land, I'ma open up a personal care home. They still have to come get counselors blessing on that. See as someone who [2:01:34, 2:01:54]: Deals with this on a regular basis when you sign a contract and you buy a pearl property and then you go back and say, okay, let me get the zoning for it. Shouldn't work that way. This zoning should have came first. Yeah. Should have came first before you signed the contract, before you uh went down that line and secured the expenses and encouraged. [2:01:54, 2:02:14]: covering those expenses, that's where the services of a really good realtor comes in at where they advise you to go get the zoning first. Yeah. So we encourage all our uh customers to do the due diligence before we ask them to apply for a zoning verification before they sign any contracts or purchase any land. And sometimes we run into that situation where they buy [2:02:14, 2:02:34]: I run into it all the time where somebody has signed a contract, they have committed to leasing a property, they come to the city, then they call me and say, you know, I need you to bail me out. Uh I signed this lease for two years, the landlord won't their money, and we're in a situation where we got to I'm sorry, I can't help you at this point. [2:02:34, 2:02:37]: Law is the law. And that's why we are. Yeah. [2:02:39, 2:02:40]: Yes, ma'am, go away, please. [2:02:41, 2:02:46]: So there is a unique situation in my district. [2:02:46, 2:02:50]: My district is a district with the large largest amount of [2:02:51, 2:02:52]: Newly annexed. [2:02:52, 2:02:54]: residents as of twenty twenty three. [2:02:55, 2:02:56]: Well [2:02:56, 2:02:58]: There was already a homeowner. [2:02:59, 2:03:01]: Who purchased a home? [2:03:01, 2:03:03]: prior to the annexation. [2:03:03, 2:03:06]: Форві сол перпис. [2:03:06, 2:03:11]: of establishing a personal care home. Yes. So when the annexation happened [2:03:13, 2:03:18]: She got caught up in this situation. Yeah. So it's been since twenty twenty three. [2:03:19, 2:03:39]: Which is why I'm urging this council and staff, we need to expedite this. Make it right. We've been working on it. I wanna I wanna know, and I'll talk to you offline about it, what the status of the business license for that homeowner who has been persistent in getting this rectified. [2:03:39, 2:03:59]: I wanna know the status of that. I can tell you probably not here. Okay. Oh but I can tell you now. Um once we come back on the eleventh and this get adopted, her her case is on the agenda after this. And then we'll see. Yes, it will be on the agenda on the eleventh. And then [2:03:58, 2:04:02]: If it's approved through a special use permit, she can get a business license. [2:04:03, 2:04:07]: She still had to get a a special use permit approval from council to open up a personal care home. [2:04:08, 2:04:18]: Can you please make sure that request for a special use permit is also added to the agenda? Yes, ma'am. But I think the council approves this. Thank you. All right. It's on there. [2:04:21, 2:04:41]: All right, no other questions, we'll move on. City of Stockbridge Short-Term Work Program, Capital Improvement Element, STWPCIE for 2026 to 2030, citywide council consideration to improve. I mean to sign the letter of transmit to the city of Stockbridge twenty uh twenty twenty-six. [2:04:41, 2:04:50]: A 2030 STWP CIE Short-Term Work Program Capital Improvement Element to the Latin Regional Commission ARC. [2:04:50, 2:05:10]: Uh Ms. Anderson, please. Okay, the the the intent tonight is to do a pr a draft a presentation of the draft to uh city council and also to get a vote on allowing the mayor to transmit the document to uh the ARC. We won't have the final document until the results of the city audit is is complete. [2:05:10, 2:05:21]: expect that by the end of the week. But so we won't jeopardize our QLG standing. We decided to to bring this um to council tonight so we can mail it off um first of next week. [2:05:23, 2:05:26]: So this is our draft capital improvement plan. [2:05:29, 2:05:35]: Here's the uh the letter that Mayor Ford will sign after tonight, uh if council grants approval. [2:05:37, 2:05:41]: Here's the resolution right here that will be signed. [2:05:41, 2:05:44]: And submitted along with the transmitter of the letter. [2:05:45, 2:05:52]: Here's a list of the infrastructure projects that are in the short-term work program. Um [2:05:54, 2:06:00]: So we identified a total of twenty-two twenty-two million nine hundred and five thousand dollars. [2:06:00, 2:06:04]: and total infrastructure needs that we will be working towards for the next five years. [2:06:06, 2:06:13]: We've identified one point eight million dollars in economic development capital and improvement projects. [2:06:24, 2:06:26]: Thanks that we're gonna say. [2:06:29, 2:06:36]: Uh planning and development uh land use we've identified a million dollars worth of capital improvement needs. [2:06:40, 2:06:43]: Transportation including road construction and [2:06:44, 2:06:50]: Other right-of-way acquisition, we've identified fifteen point five million dollars in need. [2:06:50, 2:07:10]: Municipal building, we've identified fifty-four million dollars in municipal building projects. That's pretty high because um we have a cultural arts center and a multi-purpose facility. So we'll be aiming to make bring those two projects into fruition within the next five years. And we will be building public work. [2:07:10, 2:07:17]: Works we'll be building a maintenance shop. And we've identified$2.5 million in uh public work vehicles and equipments. [2:07:19, 2:07:26]: And additional infrastructure projects, we've identified thirteen point seven million dollars. This includes water, sewer, stormway. [2:07:26, 2:07:28]: The way finding, including a digital sign. [2:07:29, 2:07:31]: The downtown utility relocation. [2:07:31, 2:07:37]: The Alloway project and the downtown lightning project, we identify four million dollars. Uh [2:07:41, 2:07:46]: And park improvements, we've identified six million dollars in needs. [2:07:49, 2:07:52]: Sidewalks we've identified thirteen million dollars in need. [2:08:01, 2:08:02]: So in all [2:08:03, 2:08:05]: We've identified over um [2:08:09, 2:08:16]: Well hold on, let me go back to the list of completed projects. This is the list of completed projects that we've completed over the the past years. [2:08:21, 2:08:23]: I think altogether w we have like [2:08:24, 2:08:30]: Eighty nine million worth of capital improvement needs that we've identified for the city. [2:08:33, 2:08:35]: So that's that's in there. [2:08:46, 2:08:48]: Okay. [2:08:52, 2:08:53]: Any questions, Council? [2:08:55, 2:08:56]: Yes, sir. [2:08:56, 2:09:16]: I think the city has made some changes. I think we prioritized the recreation center, which we have ten million dollars uh in Sploss in order to um bring that pro and uh and and we we unanimously agreed that was the top priority project for the city. So certainly [2:09:16, 2:09:36]: that is something that the council has indicated and put skin in the game that we wanted to happen first and we're looking to identify funding for that. I think um, you know, certainly that large number that stands out, the$34 million for the Cultural Arts Center has moved down the list. [2:09:36, 2:09:56]: probably uh is it even feasible at this point would probably be something that we would need to um uh evaluate currently it's on there and I know you gotta uh go ahead and get the list approved but the public should know where the sentiment uh the general sentiment of the council is to make that probably [2:09:56, 2:10:02]: project the recreation center um come to fruition and uh [2:10:04, 2:10:05]: In the show. [2:10:05, 2:10:25]: Would you like to remove it, Councilman Melazan? Would you like to remove the cultural oxygen? No, no, I don't think we're gonna do that at this point. I just think we're gonna go ahead and transmit it as is. I think that's the direction that we're leaning in. I think the Multicultural Senior Center, the the the cost estimate is gonna have is is not even close. I think that's [2:10:25, 2:10:35]: That one was a around thirty million dollars. We have ten million dollars in splots allocated to it, but the correct number for the estimate for the building was around thirty million dollars. [2:10:36, 2:10:41]: For the multi purpose? Yes. Okay, so we can go, get the notes on there. [2:10:44, 2:10:45]: So that won't be thirty million. [2:10:48, 2:10:50]: Okay. We'll we'll update that. [2:10:51, 2:10:52]: Any other questions this side? [2:10:57, 2:11:03]: So if you update that then otherwise you just need to vote in reverence to transmit. Okay. [2:11:07, 2:11:27]: All right, so is there a uh a vote to uh go forward with the so we transmit this and sign off on this? This is this is clarification, this is to maintain our qualified local government status which would be at risk should we not move forward with Yes sir. If we're late they'll suspend us. So we're trying to get moving on. It's a mandate s so move. Is there a second? [2:11:27, 2:11:47]: Mr. Berry, second at all in favor? Is it okay? She now said okay. We got three votes. We will come back uh with the final draft um and with within 30 days. Um after after we send this to ARC and they make their their uh recommendations, then we'll change and update it, and then we'll have to have a public hearing on it. So but right now we just [2:11:47, 2:11:47]: Yeah. [2:11:48, 2:12:08]: Uh seek seek got permission to send the the draft information off to the ARC. Okay, so the the okay the letter and and the uh resolution needs to be signed with the next day or so to go off to then transmit to you. Yes, sir. I have to wait till finance give me the updated uh financials, the audited information. Okay. So uh Mr. Malazzi said that should be r uh ready by um [2:12:08, 2:12:11]: Friday, so we'll have this in the mail by um Monday. [2:12:11, 2:12:14]: All right. So be it. Thank you. Okay. [2:12:15, 2:12:23]: Okay, council's consideration to approve a forfeited uh vehicle for our fleet in order to enhance police operations. Assistant Chief Godfrey, please. [2:12:28, 2:12:48]: Mayor Council, good evening. Good evening. So before you is a request from the police department uh for council to acknowledge receipt of an approved uh vehicle to be added uh to the police fleet. This is a forfeited vehicle awarded to the city by Henry County Superior Court. Uh our intent is, if approved, is to add this to our fleet to be [2:12:48, 2:12:50]: used for covert police operations. [2:12:51, 2:12:53]: Okay. Any questions, uh council? [2:12:56, 2:12:57]: No, I'll make a motion, sir. [2:12:58, 2:12:59]: All right, you make a motion? [2:13:00, 2:13:13]: I motion to approve the forfeited vehicle to our fleet in order to enhance police operations. To a second. Second. Mr. I would like to understand for the public purview so everybody understands what is the vehicle. [2:13:14, 2:13:21]: Sir, we can't read the the description of the vehicle into public record because of its intent intended purpose of police operations. [2:13:21, 2:13:27]: Okay, so it can't it can't be made public. Correct. So we need to talk about it in an executive session or something? [2:13:28, 2:13:47]: I don't I would I would think that this probably not exactly such an issue. I don't know, I'm just saying. I I don't know. How would we know what it was? Well it's it's a I don't wanna hunt I don't wanna hunt i i and in in all fairness I I trust you guys, but at the same time we don't want tactical weapons like some cities are doing well on the street. Yes sir, this is this is a passenger vehicle. Okay. [2:13:47, 2:13:53]: Okay, I I would think that uh we don't need to know that either. From Miss uh Barber to Mr. Barr, all in favor, please indicate. [2:13:54, 2:14:14]: Okay, speaking of decisions. Okay, thank you very much. Appreciate it. Assistant chief. Uh council consideration to approve an emergency procurement exception in increasing the Stockbridge Police Department FY 2025 spending authority with legacy forward to the amount not to exceed$95,000. This authorization is necessary to cover$22,955. [2:14:14, 2:14:26]: And$21,000 in the projected vehicle maintenance costs for the next sixty days. My competitive request for proposal RFP is finalized. Chief Travel, please. [2:14:26, 2:14:41]: Uh good evening, Mayor and uh members of the council. Uh as you're aware, Mayor Ford, in your capacity as the acting city manager, we had presented a memo to you as per the city ordinance to request an emergency exception to the procurement code to authorize the um [2:14:41, 2:15:01]: Continued maintenance of our police fleet. Uh currently, as you all know, our procurement code uh caps fifty thousand dollars before we have to go out to competitively bid something. We've been working with Legacy Ford. We found them to be a reliable uh vendor for vehicle maintenance, and uh we chose them because they have a quick lane service that enables our officers to get the vehicles back in service in a timely manner. [2:15:01, 2:15:21]: Manner and to get back out on the streets. We've been working with Legacy Ford since our inception. We've had great success with them. And over the first two years of operation, we did not exceed that threshold that would require us to go out for a competitive bid with this particular vendor. As our fleet is aging in its third year now, we've realized that the vehicle maintenance costs are increasing. [2:15:21, 2:15:41]: And they're expected to double this year from what they have been historically in past years. When we realized that we were trending to go over that$50,000 threshold, we reached out to procurement in May to discuss in RFP or how we would approach this situation to make sure that we're in compliance with the city's current ordinances. [2:15:41, 2:16:01]: Unfortunately, the procurement manager that we're working with is no longer with the city at this point in time. We've since been working with Mr. Malazzi and um his uh team to uh and our procurement attorney, Mr. Berry, um to uh move forward with this emergency exception. Uh as we were waiting for this process to move forward. [2:16:01, 2:16:21]: Um, of course, the vehicles needed to continue to be maintenance. Uh, we couldn't stop that service, and we've since acquired twenty-two thousand nine hundred and fifty-five dollars in invoice over that period of time from May until present, while our vehicles have been maintenance. We anticipate over the next 60 days that we'll spend about$21,000 in vehicle maintenance. We're averaging about$10,500 a month in vehicle maintenance. [2:16:21, 2:16:41]: And so we're asking for uh the council to approve a temporary accession, uh a temporary increase in our spending authority not to exceed$95,000 with legacy Ford. This will allow us to cover the costs and outstanding invoices and uh projected upcoming vehicle maintenance over the next 60 days while we [2:16:41, 2:16:59]: We finalize a competitive RFP process of which we are working with uh procurement. And um Assistant Chief Godfrey has been working directly with him. So if you have any questions specifically related to that uh process, I'm sure that he'd be able to answer those questions. If there's any questions I can answer for you, I certainly stand ready to answer those questions. [2:16:59, 2:17:06]: All right. Go ahead, Mr. Berry. Chief, you said this. This is for uh only for sixty days and up to ninety five thousand. [2:17:06, 2:17:07]: Yes, sir. [2:17:07, 2:17:11]: And then after n after the sixty days you gonna put a competitive [2:17:11, 2:17:25]: We're in the process of doing that now. It's our hope that in the next sixty days that that will be put out and we will be able to identify a permanent solution for a vehicle maintenance provider that has been competitively bid through the city. [2:17:25, 2:17:29]: And Mr. Malazi is uh on board with his recommendation. [2:17:30, 2:17:35]: Um you I don't want to speak for Mr. Melazi, but we've had conversations. [2:17:40, 2:17:41]: Sure. [2:17:42, 2:17:49]: Mr. Malazi, um just wanna follow up, making sure that this is something that you vetted and and approved for us to do. [2:17:49, 2:18:09]: Yeah, we have worked together with that as you know that we are planning to have in house fleet management uh through public works shop that is being built, but that may not be until maybe early next year. Uh but between then and now, between now and then we need to find somewhere. [2:18:09, 2:18:28]: Else we can. And the the threshold is 50,000 for our municipal uh limit, but we don't want to go again above this state limit, which is 100,000. That's why Chief has given uh 95. And the [2:18:28, 2:18:48]: We will have some the sixty days they have talking about we are looking other areas so that we don't max up thirty ninety five. And this is not only for PD, but it will be for citywide vehicles, public works. Yeah, so that it's not public works, it's not for the um administrative, but it will be [2:18:48, 2:18:49]: Citywide. [2:18:50, 2:18:53]: Yes, so this one we have discussed collectively. [2:18:53, 2:18:55]: The same legacy. Yes. [2:18:56, 2:18:56]: Mm-hmm. [2:18:57, 2:18:58]: Any other questions? [2:18:59, 2:19:00]: If you know the question, I need a motion. [2:19:04, 2:19:05]: Therefore. [2:19:05, 2:19:08]: I like to make sure. Your mic's not on, sir, I don't think. [2:19:09, 2:19:29]: Man, for I like to make a motion to um allow the sixty day uh extension as well as the increase in spending to ninety five thousand for not just the P D, but for the entire fleet management uh for the city of Stockbridge for a period of sixty days until it can uh go through the process of competitive bid. [2:19:29, 2:19:33]: Is there a second to motion? Okay, second by Miss Barber. All in favor, please indicate. [2:19:34, 2:19:37]: Okay, z three examined subcision. Thank you very much. [2:19:50, 2:20:01]: Yes, I have the sixty day extension and up to the ninety five thousand dollars. Sixty days and up to ninety five thousand dollars. [2:20:02, 2:20:07]: Oh just the not to exceed. Yes, that's hitting there. Not to exceed. That's part of it. Yes. [2:20:09, 2:20:29]: Announcements and upcoming meetings and events. Uh council meeting will be held in City Council Chamber meeting dates, location times a subject to change, or contact city hall offices at seven seven zero three eight nine seventy nine hundred or visit the website at www.stopbridgega.org for updates. U council meeting is Monday, August fourth at six thirty. [2:20:29, 2:20:49]: P.M. City Hall Levi Room. Citizens Police Advisory Council meeting held or held on the first Thursday of each month in Stockbridge PD Community Room at uh 6:30 p.m. on August 7th. The Main Street Advisory Board meeting will be held on the second Friday of each month at the Downtown Connection Center, 1:30 ML King Senior Heritage. [2:20:49, 2:21:09]: The first Millage Rate public hearing uh previously set for Monday, August fourth, has now been rescheduled for Monday, August eleventh at ten A.M. And a second Millage Rate uh public hearing will take place on um August the uh eleventh at six thirty PM. [2:21:09, 2:21:29]: City Hall Council Chambers. The City Council meeting held held on the second Monday of each month. We'll convene at a special time at 7 p.m. following the Millish rate public hearing in the City Hall Council Chambers on August 11th. Citywide Development Authority meeting are held on the second Tuesday of each month unless otherwise noted, and leave our room at 600. [2:21:29, 2:21:36]: 6 p.m. on August 12th to Community Zoning Information Meeting Wednesday, August 13th, in the City Hall Council Chamber, 6 p.m. [2:21:36, 2:21:56]: The third and final Millage Rate public hearing adoption has been rescheduled to take place on Monday, August 18th at 10 a.m. City Council Chambers. Downtown Development Authority meeting is held on the third Tuesday of each month in the Downtown Connection Center, 130 ML King Senior Heritage Trail, 6 p.m. on August 19th. U Council advisory [2:21:56, 2:22:16]: Committee meeting will be held on the third Tuesday of each month. City Hall Levi Room at 6:30 p.m. on August 19th. The Planning Commission meeting are held on the third Tuesday, excuse me, the third Thursday of each month at City Hall and the City Council Chairman 6:30, August 21st. City Council work session meeting will be held on the last Tuesday of each month at City Hall and the Council Chamber's [2:22:16, 2:22:34]: on August 26th. Upcoming city events initiatives. Join the Main Street for the Tiny Tent Concert Series Fridays from 6 p.m. to 8 p.m. Stockbridge Connection Center, 130 ML King uh Senior Heritage Trail. Bring your own lawn chairs and they'll do that compl uh depending on the weather itself. [2:22:35, 2:22:55]: Join Mayor Pro Tem Gantt for a free line dance class on Wednesday, July 30th from 6 p.m. to 8 p.m. Merle Manders Conference Center. Bring your own fan. Boots on the ground there as well, right? Join Councilman Thomas and Councilman Berry for a partnership for the monthly Bingo Bash on Wednesday, August 20th from 10 a.m. to 12 noon. [2:22:55, 2:22:58]: Tomorrow Manor's Conference Center. Lots of fun to be had by all. [2:23:00, 2:23:20]: Join Mayor Anthony Ford for a monthly meeting the mayor Monday, August 25th from ten A.M. to twelve noon, City Hall. Meetings are by appointment. The Economic Development Department has a ho uh will host a free business health clinic on the second Tuesday of each month from nine A.M. to twelve PM at Stockbridge Connection Center, one thirty ML King Heritage Senior. Excuse me. [2:23:19, 2:23:39]: Senior Heritage Trail. Check your health or in your business with a free clinic. Councilman Thomas is honoring veterans and continues to salute all year long. Please send your pictures in veterans with their name, branch, rank, and years of service. Join Councilman Thomas for Don't Try a Stockbridge Initiative Center around education, highlighting causes and effects of littering and illegal. [2:23:39, 2:23:59]: Legal dumping. More information following this as well. Sign up for the real-time alerts from severe weather, road closures, emergencies on a regroup app. Visit the city's website or social media pages for more information on how and where to sign up. Stay safe. Municipal election qualifying takes place Monday, August 18th through Friday. [2:23:59, 2:24:03]: August twenty second, from eight thirty to four thirty PM. [2:24:03, 2:24:23]: eight eight thirty a.m to four thirty P. M. Of course they're closed. The clerk clerk's office is closed from uh noon to one. More information is available on the city clerk's department page and the city's website at Stockbridge GA dot org. Wanna mention to you for the next couple of days, so Wednesday and Thursday, we'll have a Merrill Manors will be a site for a cooling center for individuals that are [2:24:23, 2:24:43]: extremely hot during the course of this uh for the next couple days there. And that's open from 7 a.m. to 5 p.m. And water, ice, and comfortable seats uh will be available for those individuals that need to come to Merrill Manage during the course of the day to get relief from the heat. Please contact Rosen Rawls to schedule the appointment with meet the mayor and more information on the council initiatives. [2:24:43, 2:25:03]: at 678-833-3348 or my way of email ralls at Stockbridge G.org. Twenty to twenty five concert season schedule, Saturday, August 16th, Stockbridge Jazz Festival hosted by Tommy Davison, featuring David Baumet, Jazz Funk Soul, EFX All-Stars, Chandra [2:25:03, 2:25:23]: Curley, Sonny Emory, Norman Brown, Jennifer Holliday, Karen Briggs, Aaron Darius, and Kiko Masui. This is Saturday, August 16th. Um and individuals that signed up originally have for Sunday, August 17th, you'll be notified about this going to one day, and you'll have an opportunity to be reimbursed for [2:25:23, 2:25:31]: For the Sunday concert, andor utilize that payment for the Sunday concert to join it on Saturday, provided seats are available for you. [2:25:32, 2:25:34]: Uh you'll be notified about that. [2:25:34, 2:25:48]: Saturday, August 30, Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis celebrating 40 years of iconic music featuring the former Sisbyer Ruben Stutter, Deborah Cox, MC Light, Jordan Knight, Illino Adams, Shantae Moore, Morris Day, and Jerome Benton, Sherrell, and Ann Nesby. [2:25:48, 2:25:54]: Saturday, September thirteenth, for lovers and friends, featuring Tank and special guest Leaf Jennings and Jenny Wine. [2:25:56, 2:26:16]: Uh Saturday, September 6th, and Sunday, September 7th, the Southern Soul weekend featuring King George, Tucker, Wesla, Pokey Bear, TK Soul, Tawan Moore, Antonio Armente, Armoundi, I guess it's pronounced. And Saturday, the uh 20th of September, do the Reggae Tour Tour 2025 featuring Zaggy Marley and Burr. [2:26:16, 2:26:36]: Burning spears. For my initial comments, of course, back to school. School starts here in Henry County in the 34th public schools on the 31st of July, which is in this week. Obviously, in the next couple days will be awfully hot, so make sure if you're outside, drink water, ice, and uh try to keep stay in the shade if you can, if you're outside as best as possible. [2:26:36, 2:26:48]: Everybody be helpful, healthy, I should say. And then uh council, we have a executive session with legal personnel real estate matters as well as cybersecurity issues. I need a motion to go to executive session, please. [2:26:49, 2:26:51]: Dr. Mr. Bar uh Mr. Barring is a second. [2:26:53, 2:26:54]: Is there a second? [2:26:55, 2:26:58]: Okay. Oh miss I'm sorry, Ms. Barmer, second. All in favor, please indicate. [2:27:00, 2:27:02]: Okay, we're going to second session. Thank you. We'll be back, ladies and gentlemen. [2:27:07, 2:27:08]: All right. [2:27:09, 2:27:14]: Council, I need a motion to end our executive session, please. So move. Is there a second? [2:27:14, 2:27:18]: Second okay, so Miss Berry Mr. Berry to Mr. Alexander, all in favor, please indicate. [2:27:20, 2:27:21]: Yeah. [2:27:22, 2:27:25]: No, I'm I'm no I'm not. I'm [2:27:27, 2:27:28]: I don't know what I'm talking about. [2:27:36, 2:27:37]: I well if [2:27:38, 2:27:41]: Meet meeting adjourned. God bless you all. Good night.

--- title: Rescheduled Regular Council Meeting date: 2025-07-15 source: 2025-07-15_Rescheduled_Regular_Council_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:03, 0:00:05]: Yes, make a [0:00:15, 0:00:19]: Yeah, we should have a [0:00:22, 0:00:42]: Good. All right. Alright ladies and gentlemen, listen, uh we have a ceremonial part of our meeting. We have ceremonial portion of repopulation to honor individuals or organizations or groups of folks and typically start off 535. But today we'll start at partly five thirty. So have a [0:00:42, 0:01:01]: couple pro one proclamation that issue out to two individuals but a whole list of you all been very helpful in and in uh showing the community how we can come together and to uh search and find a uh an individual or do whatever we need to do and recognize and teamwork um in a sense in the community. So [0:01:02, 0:01:12]: Everybody come on up and join me. Come on, all you all all your public safety individuals, officers, code enforcement folks, come on. Big group party here. [0:01:12, 0:01:13]: All right. [0:01:20, 0:01:28]: And Miss Patel, I want you to come next to me. All right. And Mr. Bell, call me Bell. Is he here? Who? [0:01:29, 0:01:41]: Kwame? Is it is it is it that's Kwame B Bell? Is he no? Uh oh. Okay. There's somebody on the lobbyist. Okay. [0:01:46, 0:01:47]: Mr. Bell. [0:01:49, 0:01:50]: That's not him. [0:01:53, 0:02:10]: All right. Well I I called you all up here so we're gonna matter of fact, uh come on down, come on down s come on down a little bit. Uh you might have to double up, you know, things of this nature. Let's get a couple of lines going. Uh all right. All right. [0:02:12, 0:02:13]: It's a green tie. [0:02:14, 0:02:16]: You may want to double up a little bit. [0:02:17, 0:02:20]: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so kinda double up, couple double up a little bit. [0:02:23, 0:02:24]: Okay. [0:02:26, 0:02:32]: All right. So we I think we're good now? You may want to double up on this side a little bit too as close. Yeah. Come on. [0:02:33, 0:02:51]: Well I'm gonna squeeze you all public, you all work together. Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on. All right. Now I'm I'm gonna call you Moni. I I I'll probably have a heck of time pronouncing your name. Mona. Mona Mona. Mona. It'll say we'll s we'll stay with Mona, okay? All right. [0:02:51, 0:03:08]: My nickname Mona and my real name is Minakshi and my last name Prat. Right. We'll stay with Mona Patel. Okay. All right. Make it make it easier so I don't chop up your name, right? All right. Ladies and gentlemen I have a proclamation here. Recognizing the teamwork and locating a missing person. [0:03:09, 0:03:20]: uh Rosebell Brown, where a seventy seven year old Rosebell Brown, who suffers from dementia, was reported missing on Thursday, june nineteenth, twenty twenty five, was last seen near Ball Eagle Way. [0:03:21, 0:03:41]: Whereas the Stockbridge community played a significant role in a search with residents providing tips and a search team including the Stockbridge Police, excuse me, Stockbridge Public Works and the uh police department personnel, the Georgia Piedm Region K9 Search and Rescue, Henry County Police, Henry County Fire Rescue, Henry County EMS, EMA. [0:03:41, 0:04:01]: Clayton County Police Department and Henry County Sheriff's Office, and whereas the city of Stockbridge is dedicated to the safety and the well-being of all its residents and the wider Henry County community, and whereas we are thankful for the sharing of information within agency networks, knowing this collaboration greatly increases the chances of locating missing persons. And whereas on Friday, June 20, [0:04:01, 0:04:21]: 2025, thanks to an incredible, tireless team effort, Rosebell Rosebell Brown was found safe after disappearing from a Stockbridge home by nearly 24 hours. Miss Brown was located in a wooded area on Friday afternoon by Stockbridge Public Works employee Monet Patel. Yes. Okay. And was carried out by the woods by safety by [0:04:21, 0:04:38]: newly recruited city of Stockbridge police officer called Mommy Bell. Now therefore I am three as four by virtual authority of SME, mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. And on behalf of City Council members Elton Alexander, Yulana, Barber Cowberry, Lakeese Gantt and Afonso Thomas, do hereby recognize the entire team of Stockbridge personnel. [0:04:39, 0:04:43]: and all the Henry County agencies who participated in an effort to search and locate Miss Brown. [0:04:44, 0:05:02]: and show uh showed the community it truly looks like by not giving up. Thank you for your ship swift action and vigilance. Stockbridge is where a community connects. A witness thereof I have here unto set my hand in Great Seal City, Stockbridge, Georgia, on the fifteenth day of July, year of our Lord, two thousand and twenty five. And I signed a proclamation along with our [0:05:03, 0:05:11]: Clerk Vanessa Holiday, and I want to uh issue this to you, Mona Patel. Okay, the actual proclamation itself, all right? [0:05:18, 0:05:38]: Now what I what I like to do, even though you get the proclamation, you're in this you're in this proclamation, right? But I have a list of other individuals that are probably right behind us, right, that helped out. So the Public Works Department personnel who participated. Jason Jackson, uh, which is a crew lead, uh James uh Jennings, Khaleb Dobson, and [0:05:38, 0:05:51]: And Najor Jones, if I got that pronounced right. And for the police department personnel who participated, of course our Chief Frank Tramer, Assistant Chief uh Richard Goffrey, who was here, uh Captain Jimmy Keys, Lieutenant Derek Ezer. [0:05:51, 0:06:11]: Corporal Eric Canton, Senior Detective Miss Rogers, Senior Officer Willie Hornerack, Hornerack, I guess it is, Officer First Class, Dave Dale Levinsky, Sergeant Rico Jordan, Senior Officer Johan Dillis, Staff Sergeant Jeffrey Neal, First Officer [0:06:11, 0:06:19]: Officer class uh Kelly Fur uh Fagelin. Uh please recruit uh uh was Lou Benz Archie. [0:06:20, 0:06:27]: Okay, please recruit uh Andrew Montgomery and then uh please recruit Kamani Kamani Bell, who will get this other proclamation as well. [0:06:28, 0:06:31]: Please recruit Arthur Ellis. Please recruit Miles Cahun. [0:06:32, 0:06:34]: Please recruit uh Russia Little the Third. [0:06:35, 0:06:55]: Uh public safety officer Colleen uh Rogers, Corporal King uh Ken Cole, Corporal Uh James Johnson, Sergeant Shane uh Rackland, uh police recruit uh Raheem Ferguson, uh executive assistant uh Nikila Hines Wilson, and accountant uh Melia Andrews Campbell, Fox. [0:06:54, 0:07:04]: Thank you all. Sorry if I mispronounce your names. Please forgive me, okay? But uh congratulations to all you all helping out in this whole process, okay? Thank you. [0:07:06, 0:07:06]: No. [0:07:07, 0:07:15]: What what happens next is that whenever we give out a city proclamation, whoever gets a proclamation has the floor. So do you have any comments? The floor is yours. [0:07:15, 0:07:16]: Do one thing to say. [0:07:17, 0:07:31]: I'm very happy for work with uh city of Stadbridge and when I when we found uh m Miss uh Roseberr Brown and then we are very proud of because she is a [0:07:31, 0:07:36]: And uh in the morning early, she not drinking water, nothing so critical, missing. [0:07:37, 0:07:57]: So she's now feeling better and she's very very well. So I'm very happy for Good job, appreciate it. Thank you very much for your comments. And we all the time for we when we have any kind opportunity for any missing person, so we are ready. Absolutely, absolutely. Now [0:07:57, 0:08:07]: for you all that are here part of you of us also support aspect so we have time anybody else uh have any other comments or things they want to say encouragement but of the teamwork [0:08:07, 0:08:27]: Sister Chief, you got anything you need to say, sir, since the actual chief is not here, and the floor is yours, sir. Well, Mayor, thank you so much for recognizing the hard work of all of the men and women, not only in the city, but the county and our adjoining partners like Clayton County as well. Um everybody's unwavering commitment is to be commended. Uh Georgia P. [0:08:27, 0:08:47]: Piedmont came out and conducted an exhaustive search the night before. You know, and the harsh reality is this: we cannot do this alone. And it takes all of our partners in the county, the sheriff's department, the police department, EMA, the fire department, our joining agents. [0:08:47, 0:09:07]: Especially the aviation units, all working hand in hand to be able to work an operation like this because even though we have our own police department here on the Stockbridge, we don't have the resources that some of these other agencies do. So it's it's encouraging and I'm very honored and proud of everybody here. [0:09:07, 0:09:27]: year that went out that day, dedicated their time. We had people that came in from their day off, uh came in and participated in that search. Um, you know, public works personnel that came out. Uh it was just an amazing uh sight to see that everybody came together uh to find this um elderly person and luckily [0:09:27, 0:09:36]: Miss Brown was found. She is safe at home. And everybody here is to be praised for that. Absolutely. Thank you, sir. [0:09:39, 0:09:53]: I just wanted to know I just wanted to note that the fire department had thirty eight recruits that came out and I'm represented here. So I just wanted to make sure you knew that they were actually on the team that found the link. Okay, I'll outstand it. Appreciate that. Thank you very much. [0:09:57, 0:10:17]: Anybody else? Any other comments, words of wisdom, grabulation, one Henry, with Clayton's who's played county? There we go. Thank you, sir. Uh sister county to to our west. Thank you for being with us, sir. Uh yes, ma'am. I was just gonna mention uh kudos. [0:10:17, 0:10:28]: I think to all of you, but you do. But I would say the public information officer for the city, our community members by the thousands shared in and went out throughout the state. So who knows all of our community members who are state? [0:10:28, 0:10:31]: Uh absolutely absolutely. [0:10:35, 0:10:36]: Any anybody else? [0:10:37, 0:10:57]: I will continue to do great work folks, right? And and continue to work together. I know we will do that to keep our citizens protected and serve them. And I have to tell you, as in a proclamation, we have to tell you that Stockbridge is where community connects. Alright? Big group photo. Okay, so let's uh put this down to you. [0:10:57, 0:10:59]: Take it for a second. [0:12:06, 0:12:10]: Please stand for the invocation if you can. Mr. Jerry May, sir, please. [0:12:18, 0:12:23]: Make make sure the mic's on. It's put put the green button. It's good? Okay, thank you. [0:12:24, 0:12:24]: That's right. [0:12:25, 0:12:33]: Father God, in the name of Jesus, first we want to say thank you, Lord. Thank you for allowing us to come together today for a great celebration. [0:12:34, 0:12:54]: Let this be a turning point for the city of Stockbridge, oh Lord. And Father God, we pray for the leaders here in the city of Stockbridge. We pray for the citizens. We pray for all that's involved that will benefit from what is about to take place tonight. Father God, we know that it's you that's in control and that will give us the strength. [0:12:54, 0:13:14]: to move forward and we say thank you. And for every more of God, we want to say thank you. And it's in your Son, Jesus' name, we pray and give thanks. Amen. Amen. Pledge allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag. Of the United States of America and to the Republic, where we stand one nation under God, indivisible. [0:13:13, 0:13:16]: the liberty and just as for all. [0:13:16, 0:13:18]: Madam Clerk Ruko, please. [0:13:23, 0:13:30]: Mayor Ford? Present. Mayor Pro Tem Gantt. Present. Councilmember Thomas. [0:13:34, 0:13:50]: So he asked to be online. I don't know if IT has set him up. Well I think Demetrius is gonna call him. All right. Councilmember Berry. Let the record reflect Council Member Berry is not in attendance. Councilmember Barber. Present. Council Member Alexander. [0:13:50, 0:13:52]: Present. [0:13:52, 0:13:58]: Uh thank you, Madam Clerk, appreciate that. So for clarification, is Mr. Thomas gonna speaking or is he just online? [0:13:59, 0:14:01]: He's he's not online right now that I know of. [0:14:03, 0:14:07]: So I'm sorry, is is he uh I'm sorry, is it gonna be online? That would be awesome. [0:14:12, 0:14:13]: Okay, so he's calling in. [0:14:21, 0:14:40]: We we we got a quorum, so we gotta we gotta we gotta I just wanna make I just wanna make sure he's uh uh what whatever needs to be done if he's able to participate that they're doing that. Right. They're doing all right. Uh let's see here. Uh uh public hearing notice. Um let's do the I need an amendment to to the agenda, please. Ms. Cant. [0:14:40, 0:14:51]: Yes, Mayor, I would like to amend the agenda for the following items that will not be heard in the calendars this evening to per be removed. Item number four, appeal case number AP-2. [0:14:52, 0:14:54]: Твоє тварин файдаш о вон. [0:14:55, 0:15:00]: Item number seven, annexation case number AX dash twenty twenty-five dash oh one. [0:15:01, 0:15:03]: Item number eight, com [0:15:04, 0:15:07]: Plan amendment case number C P [0:15:07, 0:15:10]: Dash twenty twenty five dash oh one [0:15:10, 0:15:13]: Item number nine, rezoning case number four. [0:15:13, 0:15:16]: R Z dash twenty twenty five dash o one. [0:15:17, 0:15:34]: And the following items also will not be heard this evening and have withdrawn by applicant. Mayor, we have some confusion. The applicant is actually here. It's i well it says here. I know the staff has been talking to the applicant and the applicant wants to move forward. [0:15:34, 0:15:42]: Well, let me keep going. Item number five, comp plan amendment case number CP dash twenty twenty-five-o two. [0:15:42, 0:15:49]: Item number six, rezoning case number RZ dash twenty twenty-five dash zero three. [0:15:50, 0:15:56]: Okay, so point a point of clarification. You submitted these, Mr Mr. Anderson, uh please. [0:15:57, 0:16:11]: So all these that were read uh they're by the applicant's request uh to be heard at a fur future date, such as August or November timeframe. Is that not the case or what are we doing here? Yes, that was the case until um today the applicant stated that they wish to move forward. [0:16:12, 0:16:23]: All right, and then which which ones are you referring to now? Uh the annexation, the comp plan and the rezoning. So you're talking about items seven, eight, and nine is my assumption. Yes, sir. [0:16:25, 0:16:27]: Which one I need agenda. I don't have a gender with you. [0:16:27, 0:16:28]: Which one? [0:16:29, 0:16:30]: Well [0:16:31, 0:16:36]: Yeah. Seven is an annexation case. A S Correct, that's one. [0:16:36, 0:16:41]: Okay, and an eight is a is a comp plan amend uh comp plan amendment case. [0:16:44, 0:16:48]: And they're they're I'm pretty sure they're related to one another since they're right behind each other. [0:16:48, 0:16:56]: Yes, sir. Um they're not officially removed until um I mean, I know you know mayor, until council agrees to take'em off, so [0:16:56, 0:16:58]: Well I I I got that, but uh [0:17:00, 0:17:11]: Okay. And the rezoning case is number number nine is what it's have here. And that also, uh these are all in District Five. Yes, sir. [0:17:11, 0:17:12]: Okay. [0:17:14, 0:17:15]: All right. [0:17:19, 0:17:21]: Well, um okay. [0:17:22, 0:17:24]: There wasn't a second to the motion. [0:17:25, 0:17:25]: Okay. [0:17:26, 0:17:46]: So if that's the case, if it was no second, I mean I I can go through the second and we can but but we it's no second. So it's no second. So how about this? If we're gonna do seven, eight, and nine, we'll go ahead and uh if you I hate to put you through this again, okay? Okay it'd be number four, four, five, four, five, and six. Unless something pops up, Mr. [0:17:46, 0:17:50]: [1073.0, 1079.2]: Yes, sir. Okay. Um is there any way you can one second, please. All right. Go ahead, sir. [0:17:59, 0:18:14]: I was gonna ask could you uh push push'em change the order because we we don't have our presentation because we were under the impression that this was gonna be deferred. So staff is going to retrieve the retrieve our presentation to put it to put so we can present tonight. [0:18:15, 0:18:19]: Well okay. Uh da da da da we can we don't have well [0:18:20, 0:18:28]: The number can stay the same. With if you have to go get a pr if we prove this and you have to go get the presentation, we'll add it we'll go back if you need be. We'll just go back if that's the case. One second, please, Miss Barber. [0:18:30, 0:18:31]: That's one we can't turn. [0:18:31, 0:18:32]: Clarify how we close. [0:18:33, 0:18:37]: Well we actually're gonna go through it again. Yes, she'll clarify it. [0:18:39, 0:18:39]: Go ahead, please. [0:18:40, 0:19:00]: Well, you're saying we're gonna push it back, so we're gonna r we're gonna m move forward with taking off item four, five, and six. Four, five, and six. Four, five, and six, unless something happens here that this is not gonna it's gonna be heard tonight, but I but in four, five and six. So if you go ahead and go through four, five and six and then the re the uh uh seven, eight, nine will remain and we'll get we'll get to that but if we [0:19:00, 0:19:08]: Is someone going your team is already going to get the party, sir? Yes, sir. So I I request that we do number uh ten first. [0:19:08, 0:19:09]: Please. [0:19:11, 0:19:20]: All right, we we can do we all right. So one second here. One second here. So we got the Kazanatena, we got an appointment here. All right. [0:19:22, 0:19:22]: Four [0:19:25, 0:19:45]: All right. Well we'll we'll we can uh I appreciate that. We c we can do that. If that's the case, we can we can do we can when it comes to public hearing, uh we can go to ten in the public hearing first if your people aren't here to do the presentation. We'll back up. Yes, sir. So we need to take off four, five, and six, Ms. Gann, if you don't mind. Okay. Um Mayor Ford, I would like to make a [0:19:44, 0:19:50]: motion that we remove item number four, five, and six that are located on the agenda. [0:19:50, 0:20:10]: Is there a second emotion? Sir. Um all in favor, please indicate. Okay. Uh mayor, clarification for that. The number four is to a future date, but number five and six has been withdrawn by the applicant. Just want to state that for the record. Yeah, well, five and six have that right. Right. They've been withdrawn. Thank you. That is true. Appreciate it. [0:20:10, 0:20:30]: Okay. Now I need a motion to accept the rest of the agenda, please. So moved. Is there a second? Case unanimous decision on that. Okay. Um, ladies and gentlemen, through our ceremonial uh part of our agenda this evening, which is at five thirty, um we uh gave a proclamation [0:20:29, 0:20:49]: to s to several individuals, two individuals actually, and but we had a collaboration of a lot of different public service individuals that were here. And this deals with the uh older lady named Rose Rosebelle Brown, a seventy-seven year old lady that was uh uh displaced, it was lost, you know. [0:20:49, 0:21:09]: or an and actually was in the community and got misoriented. So what it amounts to, the proclamation actually congratulates the overall community effort um of the Stockbridge Police Department, our Public Works Department, Henry County Fire Department, Henry County Sheriff, and the Clayton County Police, along with [0:21:09, 0:21:20]: But um of course through uh social media citizens in the in the community communicating with one another about the potential whereabouts of this elderly uh lady. [0:21:20, 0:21:25]: which was found within a twenty four hour period safe and sound and back home. [0:21:25, 0:21:45]: Uh so I wanted to acknowledge that. We double had in a proclamation earlier but wanna acknowledge that and thank um uh primarily uh Moni Patel, which is a member of our public works department, and Stockbridge police officer uh Kamani Bell. And uh Ms. Patel was the one actual individual that um found her and then Mr. Bell uh [0:21:45, 0:22:05]: Our police recruit actually carried her out of the woods. So it's gonna conjord into uh uh actual collaboration with many different agencies. We want to knowledge and thank all those agencies for working together to save this lady. And um so that was the only recognition we had on that aspect. Um Madam Clerk, we have any public comments, please. [0:22:10, 0:22:30]: Mr. Turner, two five four, warblerway, Stockbridge. This is business, not personal. I'm calling for the mayor, District One, District Three, District Four, and District Five, and the City Attorney to resign. There is a financial crisis. It has recently come to the attention of the Stockbridge City taxpayer that almost thirty three million dollars is missing from the twenty twenty five. [0:22:30, 0:22:50]: Budget, which was already approved in the winter of 2024. This has caused the city council to vote for a budget resolution amount of$32.5 million to reconcile the 2024 budget, raising the 2024 budget from$42.7 million to$76.6 million in one year. The citizens have not been informed. [0:22:50, 0:23:10]: Of how this money just simply disappeared. Only the city manager, mayor, council members, and city attorney are directly responsible how taxpayer dollars are allocated and release the funds. Where did thirty two point five million dollars come from to reconcile the twenty twenty-four budget? Did it come from the twenty twenty-five budget or our savings account? If it came from the twenty twenty-bit. [0:23:10, 0:23:30]: 2025 budget, that would mean that there is only eleven million dollars left in the approved twenty twenty-five budget if the funds came from there. With millions of dollars being misplaced for the twenty twenty-four budget, it only makes sense to have a forensic audit done from the year 2018 to present. Millions of dollars is missing. Millions of dollars have been moved from the [0:23:30, 0:23:50]: From the citywide authority, explosive counts, and other departments. Millions. How can we expect to hire a new city manager whose sole responsibility is to make sure the city doesn't go bankrupt and give him a precise number to work with? The only way to ensure the new city manager's success is to have an outside forensic audit of the city of Stockbridge and the amphitheater prior to the [0:23:50, 0:24:10]: Construction of the amphitheater to get a true number of where the city stood and stands financially before the construction of the amphitheater. If the council only answers right now is I don't know, please know this. The numbers don't lie. Millions of dollars is unaccounted for. A forensic audit is the only way to find these missing tax dollars. And the twenty twenty-four budget had to be a good thing. [0:24:10, 0:24:30]: amended, then it will only be true that the previous years need to be amended as well. Either make the right call for your taxpaying citizens now when it pertains to the numbers the city treasurer mister Malazi has presented you with, which was facts, or please resign for the sake of the city. There's no business or corporation in this world where millions of dollars can go unaccounted for and I don't know be your answer. [0:24:30, 0:24:50]: Sir, you took millions of dollars from the citywide project, so what projects were affected? You are taking money from the city savings account to fund concerts and free events. What amount is in the city's savings accounts right now? Thirty-three million dollars could have paid for a community recreation center. What do free events cost the city? What other city departments? [0:24:50, 0:25:03]: went over budget. And why are we st why is the amphitheater still opening and what vendors are still operating? Again,$33 million is unaccounted for and you guys have an I don't know answer. [0:25:03, 0:25:16]: That's not professional and that's not leadership. So I'm gonna ask you, Mr. Mayor, Miss Gantt, Mr. Alexander, Mr. Thomas to all resign. Thank you. Thank you. Let me uh [0:25:17, 0:25:37]: Slipped my mind here, but let's do this just in case, put this back on record as well. Public comments. All person wishing to speak for public comments must sign in with the city clerk prior to beginning of the meeting. You must sign your name, address, and phone number. Be able to address the mayor and council for three minutes. Speakers must respect all members of the elected body officials and staff. Defamation, unruliness, and or swearing will not be tolerated. [0:25:37, 0:25:42]: while meetings are in session. They need to re put that in the record as well. Who's next, uh Miss uh Holliday? [0:25:44, 0:25:45]: Okay. [0:25:52, 0:25:53]: Name and address, please. [0:26:00, 0:26:06]: My name is Mary and D. Calhoun and I live at six oh eight Creek Stone Court in Jonesboro, Georgia. [0:26:07, 0:26:27]: And I come before this board today for several reasons. My first reason is one member of this council needs to be seriously censored or asked to resign for posting lewd and lascivious material in social media in reference to Pornhub. [0:26:27, 0:26:31]: was conduct unbecoming an elected official. [0:26:32, 0:26:40]: In two days I will be sixty four years old, and I have never seen a council act in that manner. [0:26:41, 0:26:42]: Number two. [0:26:44, 0:26:50]: It is not fair for you all to have free concerts and make the [0:26:50, 0:26:54]: Make the tickets free for folks not living in Stockbridge. [0:26:55, 0:27:15]: Who do not pay taxes while the taxpayers themselves were denied. I believe this is very criminal and it was very unfair to watch taxpayers sit outside to watch fireworks in a free concert while people from other cities come in to take advantage of what [0:27:15, 0:27:16]: What they paid for. [0:27:17, 0:27:18]: Number three. [0:27:19, 0:27:25]: I do not think it is fair f that one of the council members currently running for office in District One [0:27:26, 0:27:29]: be allowed to use the Merrill Mandar Center. [0:27:29, 0:27:35]: in line for line dances just to gather folks' names and addresses for her campaign. [0:27:36, 0:27:40]: I hope she has paid for this use of the facility. [0:27:40, 0:27:52]: And I also wants to know from this same council to explain why Harold Young bought two hundred and forty-five dollars worth of ice cream from her shop in Hampton. [0:27:52, 0:28:00]: off of the taxpayers. This is asinine, and the people deserve better. Thank you. [0:28:01, 0:28:04]: Okay. Who's next? Um Ms. Oliver. [0:28:05, 0:28:08]: Ms. Johnson. [0:28:11, 0:28:12]: Ms. Johnson. [0:28:12, 0:28:32]: Mayor, point of order. Point of order. Okay. It is it is the rules as you have written them that the the speakers are to address the chair. That's true. That is true. Not address anybody up here, but to address the chair and specific items. We need to make sure that we adhere to that. The we're not here for personal attacks. And [0:28:32, 0:28:36]: to single out individual council members and that's what's happened here. [0:28:37, 0:28:41]: Well noted. Name stu hey hold on. Name and address please, ma'am. [0:28:42, 0:28:44]: My name is Jernita Johnson. [0:28:46, 0:28:48]: I live at eleven oh nine Bailey's Court. [0:28:49, 0:29:09]: Good evening, Mayor Ford and Council. My name is Jernita Johnson and I've proudly called Stockbridge home for sixteen years. I'm here tonight as a concerned neighbor who deeply believes in the future of Stockbridge, and it's our responsibility to make that future work for all of us. [0:29:10, 0:29:27]: While there's much to be proud of, are growing businesses, new developments, and expanding population, there are ongoing concerns that residents bring up over and over again. Concerns that deserve consistent attention. [0:29:28, 0:29:36]: As someone who listens to my neighbors daily, I want to speak directly to those issues that affect our daily lives. [0:29:37, 0:29:57]: First, the frequency of power outages in District One, especially during storms or even clear days, has become frustrating and unsafe. Whether it's our seniors relying on medical equipment, parents managing households, our local business. [0:29:57, 0:30:04]: Businesses trying to operate, this is an infrastructure issue we can't no longer afford to ignore. [0:30:05, 0:30:20]: Second, we still don't have a dedicated youth recreation center. Our kids and teens need a safe, positive place to go after school and during summer. If we want to shape the future of this city, we must invest in its youth. [0:30:21, 0:30:41]: And here's the bigger question on many residents' minds. Where's the thirty-two million? That's public money. That's taxpayer money. And as of today, the public still doesn't have a clear answer. How does a city misplace and mismanage that kind of funding with no accountability? [0:30:41, 0:30:47]: Transparency shouldn't be a request. It should be the standard. [0:30:48, 0:30:55]: Many of us feel it's time for a change, not just in policies, but in leadership. [0:30:56, 0:31:16]: Fresh leadership can bring new energy, clear communication, strong accountability to the decisions that impact our daily lives. I'm not here to criticize, but to challenge us to think boldly, lead responsibly, and serve our residents with purpose. I love this situation. [0:31:16, 0:31:23]: And I believe it's time we rise together with leadership that reflects the people, not just the politics. [0:31:24, 0:31:30]: We can do better for every street, every neighbor, and every voice in Stockbridge. Thank you. Thank you. [0:31:32, 0:31:34]: Okay. Uh [0:31:34, 0:31:51]: If i this this is something that um is unusual, but certainly I I I've heard this misnomer entail repeatedly because sometimes if you repeat the same information over and over again, a lie becomes the truth. [0:31:52, 0:32:12]: Like thirty-two million dollars is missing. That is oh that is not true under any circumstances at all. And the public needs to hear that. That is untrue. There's no no factual powers behind that. And folks need to hear that because people can come up to this microphone and say what they want to say, but that is totally untrue. [0:32:12, 0:32:17]: Every ask. We'll be able to we'll be able to deal with that and answer that in in a better better another time. Thank you. [0:32:18, 0:32:38]: You are right right now? I am. I just it you know, I want to bring it to the point that everyone has a right to make their public statements. It's election season, and the people that came up to make a statement are running for election. Specifically my seat. And I I just think that, you know, we need to be a little bit more. [0:32:38, 0:32:58]: mindful of the platform of our public comments when we're here and what we're focusing on. And so it is um imperative and and we hear you, we respect everyone's opinion, but w you know, there is a difference. It it's campaign season, so you're you're gonna get that right now. All right. [0:32:58, 0:33:13]: Now that I've done that, did you have any comments you want to make at all? Okay. All right, we'll move on. Um what we have here is adoption of the minutes, adoption of the council meeting on on June 9th and the work session June twenty fifth and our spe uh council meeting on the [0:33:14, 0:33:18]: Uh July first and need second to adopt those into the uh Mayor Ford. Yes, ma'am. [0:33:18, 0:33:20]: Um I actually [0:33:20, 0:33:21]: Requested. [0:33:21, 0:33:22]: Um [0:33:22, 0:33:26]: An amendment to the June ninth meeting. Minutes [0:33:27, 0:33:47]: I uh on page one, I sent it to the clerk, but in the printed copy that we have in our book, it doesn't reflect the change. But okay, so I'll send you a copy of the corrected one. That was your question. Should I make make a motion? Should I make note of what that change was? Well, yeah, if she has that, uh [0:33:47, 0:33:54]: Uh yeah, she has that she'll make she'll make the change if you wanna she has a change. If you wanna put it publicly, I guess she has a change if you wanna say it publicly in the [0:33:54, 0:34:00]: Okay. And this is just for the June ninth meeting minutes. Um [0:34:01, 0:34:20]: During the motion that I made uh to amend the agenda to add term limits, I was speaking specifically about council term limits, but looking at the meeting minutes, it only shows term limits. Okay. So I asked her to include council term limits, okay. Just to be more specific. [0:34:20, 0:34:30]: So should I just make a motion? Okay, I'd like to make a motion with that amendment to our city council meeting minutes from June ninth. [0:34:31, 0:34:37]: And with the other minutes as well, we want to approve all the other minutes as well. The twenty fifth and the in the first minutes. [0:34:38, 0:34:39]: Is there a second to the motion? [0:34:40, 0:35:00]: Clarity mayor, I want to make sure that everybody understands this is a this is changing the minutes. This is not authorizing any type of term limits. No, no, it's just changing the minutes. Right. Just make sure that's the case. What is written? Second. Okay. On fair please indicate. Okay, now it's decision there. All right. So what we have before us is a little joyous moment of all this, right? [0:35:00, 0:35:10]: We have before us the appointment and confirmation of our sole finalist for city manager, who's present with his family here, Mr. Sean Edmondson. [0:35:11, 0:35:13]: Thank you, sir, and congratulations to you. Okay. [0:35:14, 0:35:14]: So [0:35:15, 0:35:28]: I need a motion to uh effectively uh have him as our next city manager. Mayor. Yes, sir. I'd like to nominate Shantez Edmondson as the new city manager of the city of Stockbridge. I second that. [0:35:29, 0:35:30]: On fair present okay. [0:35:30, 0:35:32]: Well, congratulations, sir. [0:35:37, 0:35:49]: Now, just just just like when we do proclamations, the floor is yours. All right? And what's gonna happen is you're gonna get used to coming to that mic. No pressure. [0:35:52, 0:35:59]: Uh good evening, Mayor Ford, members of the City Council, residents of Stockbridge, and the dedicated city staff. [0:36:00, 0:36:02]: Tonight I stand before you deeply honored. [0:36:03, 0:36:10]: And Humboldt to be appointed as the next city manager of Stockbridge, a city full of pride, potential, and purpose. [0:36:10, 0:36:15]: First and first I would like to express my sincere gratitude to Mayor Ford and the members of this council [0:36:16, 0:36:17]: For your confidence in me. [0:36:17, 0:36:19]: Your trust is not taken for granted. [0:36:20, 0:36:29]: And I commit myself to honor it through tireless service, clear communication, and leadership style rooted in accountability, collaboration and results. [0:36:30, 0:36:36]: I'll also be remiss if I did not pause to thank the most important pillars of my life, my family. [0:36:36, 0:36:42]: To my family, thank you for your unwavering support, your sacrifices, and your belief in my calling to serve. [0:36:42, 0:36:45]: You are the reason I scribe to be better every single day. [0:36:45, 0:36:48]: And I carry your script with me into this new chapter. [0:36:48, 0:36:52]: Stepping into this role, I recognise that leadership is not always comfortable. [0:36:53, 0:36:55]: Especially during seasons of change. [0:36:56, 0:36:57]: Change brings questions. [0:36:57, 0:36:58]: It scratches us. [0:36:59, 0:37:03]: It chall it challenges habits and demands clarity of purpose. [0:37:03, 0:37:09]: But it also brings with it the chance to grow, to rise, and to do things better than we ever have done before. [0:37:10, 0:37:11]: Let me share a quick story. [0:37:12, 0:37:19]: Years ago while serving in the military, I was stationed in a place where the terrain was rough, the mission was unclear, and the morale was low. [0:37:19, 0:37:23]: One day I walked past a soldier struggling to fix a piece of equipment in the heat. [0:37:24, 0:37:26]: I asked, do you need help? [0:37:26, 0:37:27]: He said, No, sergeant. [0:37:28, 0:37:30]: I just need to figure out a better way to make this work. [0:37:32, 0:37:34]: That moment stuck with me. [0:37:34, 0:37:41]: Because of the heart, that's the heart of leadership. Not running from a challenge, not giving up when the solution isn't always obvious. [0:37:41, 0:37:46]: But having the courage and creativity to say there's got to be a better way. [0:37:46, 0:37:48]: And I'm willing to find it. [0:37:49, 0:37:51]: That is what I see here in Stockbridge. [0:37:52, 0:37:54]: We are not a city content with just getting by. [0:37:55, 0:37:59]: We are a city ready to thrive to challenge the old norms. [0:37:59, 0:38:05]: Push forward bold ideas and ensure that our government truly works for the people it serves. [0:38:05, 0:38:08]: As your city manager, I pledge to lead with vision. [0:38:09, 0:38:10]: And transparency. [0:38:10, 0:38:13]: Strengthen operational excellence and financial stewardship. [0:38:14, 0:38:17]: prioritize smart growth and economic development that benefits all. [0:38:18, 0:38:28]: and build a culture where staff are empowered and residents are engaged. But none of this would be done in isolation. Progress comes when all lock arms. Mayor, [0:38:28, 0:38:34]: Council, staff, residents, business owners, and we move in the same direction. [0:38:34, 0:38:40]: Let's walk all together in this new chapter of Stockbridge, not just with plans and policies. [0:38:40, 0:38:47]: But with purpose, passion, and unity. Thank you for this incredible opportunity. I'm ready to serve. Let's get to work. [0:38:54, 0:39:04]: And to let uh the the public know that uh once we appoint him, he's appointed now, but he actually won't start have his first day on the job until Monday, August fourth. He's got uh [0:39:05, 0:39:18]: And it's some time I guess away uh from the job and tighten up some loose ends on the previous job, I guess it is, and spend some time with the family. But um Monday, the August fourth will be his first day on the job, but he will do some transition with us during the course of the next couple weeks or so. [0:39:20, 0:39:33]: So thank you. Mayor? Yes sir. Good good point. Uh yeah, sure. Let's do that. We'll come on. We'll come on down here and do that. Absolutely. [0:39:35, 0:39:37]: Um yes. [0:39:41, 0:39:43]: She can be able to have this. [0:39:57, 0:39:58]: So [0:40:04, 0:40:07]: I still get it [0:40:13, 0:40:14]: [2417.9, 2420.0]: I'm not getting back in the world. [0:40:21, 0:40:24]: [2425.0, 2430.7]: Uh name you write your account. [0:40:32, 0:40:33]: Yeah. [0:40:42, 0:40:50]: Okay. [0:40:51, 0:40:52]: So [0:40:53, 0:40:58]: Okay, what we have next is our consent agenda. [0:41:00, 0:41:03]: And so what this is it deals with uh [0:41:04, 0:41:18]: Resolution to approve the twenty twenty five Notice of Election and Qualifying Fees. Resolution to approve the twenty twenty five Georgia Secretary of State elections. It's on the consent agenda. Uh uh ms uh miss finesse holiday, did you need any clarification of this at all? [0:41:19, 0:41:23]: Mayor, these are two things that we cannot change and I just ask for your approval. [0:41:23, 0:41:28]: Okay. Uh council I need a motion to approve this on the consent agenda, so [0:41:29, 0:41:49]: Consent agenda. So moved. Is there a second? I'm sorry. Consent agenda resolution on a 2025 notice for election and qualifying fees and a resolution to approve the 2025 Georgia Secretary of State Elections calendar. All right, then what it what uh the motion for. What yeah, what the clerk mentioned is that this is uh this is uh right [0:41:49, 0:42:00]: So I just wanted Miss uh Barber made a second. She made a motion. Miss Can't second that. So all in favor, please indicate. [0:42:02, 0:42:06]: All right, just unanimous how you don't serve. Is your hand is your hand up for no idea? [0:42:07, 0:42:10]: It's dealing with the uh a consent of gender actually is what it is. [0:42:10, 0:42:16]: Okay. Now it's decision. All all four individuals. All right. Thank you. We'll move on now. [0:42:17, 0:42:22]: What I have for let's see here, uh next would be a a um public hearing. [0:42:24, 0:42:26]: All right, so let me yes, sir. [0:42:28, 0:42:35]: Uh let's do the let's do the forty two one first. Okay. What what which [0:42:37, 0:42:40]: We have here w wait a minute now, so you got uh [0:42:41, 0:42:41]: Seven [0:42:42, 0:42:45]: Eight and nine we're going to do today. [0:42:45, 0:42:46]: Correct? [0:42:46, 0:42:48]: Yes, sir. Okay. So [0:42:48, 0:42:59]: So f okay, so four, five, and six are off. So we'll jump all the way if we go in order we jump all the way to number seven. Is that what you're gonna do now? Yes, sir, but um we we should go with number ten first. [0:43:00, 0:43:12]: But that's also zoning modification. Okay, so this is okay. You need to do that now based on some information you gotta get together, I guess. Yes, sir. All right. So but it's a public hearing, so I need to read the public hearing's rules. Okay. [0:43:14, 0:43:34]: All right. Public hearing rules. Please mute all cell phones on electronic devices. If anyone wishes to speak tonight on a public hearing item, please fill out the form available on the table and hand it to the city clerk before approaching the podium. After each case is called, the council will hear from the city staff, followed by the applicant or the representative regarding the proposed plans for properly along [0:43:34, 0:43:54]: with or any other revelant any other relevant information. The council will be free to ask questions at any time before the vote. Following the applicant, anyone who wishes to speak in favor or opposed to the case will have an opportunity to do so. Each side will be allotted 10 minutes total. Additional time may be extended at the discretion of the council. Please keep comments, presentation, professional [0:43:54, 0:44:05]: referring only to the facts and are pertinent to the case. We will not allow comments or personal attacks towards any individual group. Please refrain from the applause or comments from the audience during the public hearing. [0:44:05, 0:44:18]: After the presiding officer recognizes the speaker, he or she shall direct all comments to the presiding officer, and never to members of the council, staff, or audience. All comments will be made from the podium, where you'll be required to state your name and address for the record. [0:44:19, 0:44:39]: Please note that these hearings are not a debate. Failure to comply will cause you to be removed from the chamber and abilities by law enforcement if you deviate from these proceedings. Other than the applicant, no person shall speak more than once. The applicant may reserve part of his or her speaking time as a rebuttal, may speak next and last, and may use the entire ten minutes allowed. [0:44:39, 0:44:46]: Allowed for the pro side of the application. If questions are raised, counsel may be asked the applicant to address the questions andor concerns. [0:44:46, 0:44:50]: Presiding officer will call for a motion. This m second to the motion. [0:44:50, 0:44:52]: Have any necessary discussion? [0:44:52, 0:44:59]: If the matter is not tabled, presiding officer will count count to vote of the recommended approval or denial for the request. And we're now [0:45:00, 0:45:20]: Discussing as talk about number 10 zoning modification case. ZEM 2025-01 Council District 5. Consideration of the request of a major zoning modification of parcel 070-0101. [0:45:20, 0:45:40]: At the southeast corner of Highway 42, north of Antunus Road, to provide for the modifications of the zoning conditions comprising of the department agreement for rezoning case RZ-03-45-S. Purpose to allow for development of a single-family detached residential subdivision. Property owner Henry High. [0:45:39, 0:45:59]: Highway 42 LLC, applicant Shaker ready. The property is located in landlocks 31 and 32 of District 7 and contains 27.72 acres. Mr. Anderson, please. Good evening. Mayor, I'd like to uh before I begin, um to emphasize that this is not a rezoning. The zoning is currently in place. [0:45:59, 0:46:08]: uh for this project and the the developer just wants to make changes to the um agreed upon the existing uh approved development plan. [0:46:09, 0:46:10]: Okay. [0:46:16, 0:46:36]: The applicant is uh Shaker Reddy. Uh the agent is Brian Mashburn. Uh address of the property. The property is located at the southwest corner of Highway 42, North and Tunis Road. It contains 27.72 acres. The current use of the property is vacant and undeveloped, but the layout of the approved subdivision is still visible through existing clean. [0:46:36, 0:46:50]: Clearings. The site is also heavily wooded and crossed by Wolf Creek with two existing access points from highway, from US Highway 23. The current zoning of the property is suburban residential. [0:46:50, 0:47:10]: The current future land use designation of the property is low density mixed use. The proposed number of units per acre is 2.12 units per acre. We posted the sign on June 4, 2025. Here's an aerial photo of the property. The area highlighted in yellow with the red stripes is actually. [0:47:10, 0:47:16]: The site. It's near the Eagles Landing First Baptist Church and Eagles Landing Christian Academy. [0:47:18, 0:47:21]: A close up area photo of the layout. [0:47:26, 0:47:30]: Here's the flood map showing how Wolf Creek traverses the property. [0:47:32, 0:47:41]: Here's the existing road from staff visit, the existing road that was done when our development was first approved. [0:47:43, 0:47:46]: Here's proof of the sign posting on June fourth, as I previously mentioned. [0:47:49, 0:47:59]: Here's a zoning map of the area. The area highlighted in yellow with the star is the property, is the subject property we're referencing t referencing tonight. [0:48:00, 0:48:20]: Zoning information. Um the existing zoning, property to the north, you got um M2 Heavy Industrial located in unincorporated Henry County. Uh also to the north, you got C3 Heavy Commercial Zoning, also in unincorporated Henry County. And also to the north, you got M1 light industrial. [0:48:20, 0:48:40]: Industrial Henry County. Excuse me. To the south of the property, you got M1 and located in unincorporated Henry County. Property to the east, you got OI Office Institutional in the city of Stockbridge. And C2, General Commercial in the City of Stockbridge. And uh to the west of the property, you got PD and Uncorbridge. [0:48:39, 0:48:52]: unincorporated Henry County and uh near the Eagles Landing subdivision, the unincorporated portion. Here's a joint Henry County and City of Stockbridge um future land use map. The star highlights the subject property. [0:48:56, 0:49:16]: Surrounding future land use uh designations. To the north, you got secure care self-storage, Fortune Metal, Georgia, Disco Incorporated, and the current future land use is high density suburban Henry County. Property to the south, you have Trinity Chapel Church, and it's and [0:49:16, 0:49:36]: And a high density suburban land use category. Property to the east, you got Eagles Landing First Baptist Church, Eagles Landing Christian Academy, and it's low density residential. And also you have vacant land, low density mixed use. Property to the west, you got Eagles Landing Subdivision, and it's considered high density subdivision. [0:49:36, 0:49:47]: Suburban land use. Here's a map of all the land use densities that I just uh just referenced. Here's the overlay map of the parcel. [0:49:50, 0:50:10]: The zoning history. Um on October the ninth, um, Henry County Municipal Planning Commission reviewed the application and recommended approval subject to thirteen conditions. However, uh the city of Stockbridge City Council tabled the case during this meeting on November 10th, 2003, due to an active m uh moratorium on multifamily development. [0:50:10, 0:50:30]: Within the city. On December 10, 2003, the applicant submitted a revised rezoning request and site plan to rezone the subject property from M1 to RM3, which was sync at the time was a single-family residential, to construct 73 single-family detached lots. On June 10th, the Stockbridge Council approved the request with 14 conditions. [0:50:29, 0:50:49]: And a development agreement was written and adopted thereof. This particular development agreement is the one that's in question tonight and the one that we will be modifying. Uh preliminary site plan was prepared by Paragon Consulting Group and submitted to Herman County in June 2005 as part of the formal development review process. [0:50:49, 0:51:09]: Planning proposed 65 single-family lots, two designated amenity areas, a loop walking trail, seven water quality ponds, and a five-foot-wide and five-foot-wide sidewalks throughout the subdivision. The layout reflected a traditional estate-style design with a minimum lot size of [0:51:09, 0:51:25]: ten thousand five hundred square feet, sixty foot lock w widths, and larger building setbacks, forty foot in the front and rear, and ten on the side. The plan received staff approval on july seventeenth, two thousand and six. [0:51:25, 0:51:37]: The development of the site began around the this was the LDP portion, it began around two thousand six to two thousand seven. However, the global financial crisis that occurred between two thousand and seven and two thousand nine. [0:51:37, 0:51:45]: Resulted in the foreclosure of the site in 2008. Eventually the property was purchased by Henry Highway 42 in 2010. [0:51:47, 0:51:53]: Here's the uh original site plan and the development agreement was based upon this site plan. [0:51:56, 0:52:02]: It was originally called Orleans Manor at Eagles Landing and the date of this is December tenth, two thousand and three. [0:52:04, 0:52:08]: And here's the fourteen conditions. I'm not gonna read all this for time's sakes. [0:52:12, 0:52:17]: This is another um layout of the site plan showing the parcels. [0:52:20, 0:52:28]: And here's the original site plan up that was approved by Heron County staff in um July 17th, 2006. [0:52:29, 0:52:31]: The original site development in two thousand six. [0:52:32, 0:52:35]: It's on the left in the original site development in 2008. [0:52:35, 0:52:36]: It's on the right. [0:52:42, 0:52:57]: Okay, here's uh let me get to the meat of this. Um the request we're here to to hear a zoning modification to the existing site plan. So um the applicant wishes to address uh condition four, six, ten, twelve, fourteen, and twenty. [0:52:58, 0:53:18]: Of the original development agreement. The original, condition number four of the original development agreement stated that one-third of the single family home shall be a minimum of 2,500 square feet. As part of the zoning modification request, the applicant is requesting that one-third of the single-story home shall be a minimum of 2,400 square feet. [0:53:18, 0:53:18]: Square feet. [0:53:20, 0:53:40]: Um the applicant's reasoning is square feet square footage of twenty five hundred may not fit on all of the lot. Some of the lots on the current existing development plan are irregular and uh too small to put a twenty five hundred square foot home on there. So he needs to reduce some of the homes by a hundred square feet. He wants to uh [0:53:40, 0:54:00]: Change. The applicant wants to change condition number six, uh which addresses home exteriors, three three-sided brick stone or seventy-five percent brick stone. He wants to change to front of home shall be a mixture of fifty percent brick or stone and hardy plank or cementus fiber siding with a brick or stone water table on the top. [0:53:59, 0:54:15]: two sides of the home. The applicant stated the reason for this, it will be more mark marketable and compete with similar new developments in the area. The applicant also wishes to address condition number 10, hardwood street trees required throughout the development. [0:54:16, 0:54:32]: Uh that was the original con original condition number ten. The applicant is proposing through the modification, hardwood street trees shall only be required along Highway 2342. Uh the reason, distance between front exterior and the street is limited. [0:54:33, 0:54:53]: The applicant also wants to change condition number twelve, which states no minimum landscape strip between sidewalk and curb specified. The applicant is proposing a landscape landscape strip between curb and four foot sidewalks shall be a minimum of twenty-four inches along all public streets. [0:54:53, 0:54:58]: stating that um there's not enough room to do that because space is needed for utilities. [0:55:00, 0:55:06]: Uh he wants to address condition number fourteen, council approval required for all home plans prior to building permit. [0:55:07, 0:55:08]: The applicant's proposal [0:55:08, 0:55:28]: That home plan approval shall be issued by the Director of Community Development or other staff prior to issuance of approval or final plat. This will streamline the approval process and allow for administrative level review because uh currently all have all the homes will have to come back before council, which was which will slow down the process tremendously. [0:55:28, 0:55:45]: Also, the applicant wish to address um condition number 20 of the existing development plan that requires two amenity areas with extensive requirements, trail, pavilion, a bathhouse, divided playground, two pools, grills, trash, and parking. [0:55:45, 0:56:02]: He wants one of the amenities the applicant's proposing one amenities lot shall include a pool, cabana, playground, and parking lot. The applicant's rationale is to further clarify the prior development agreement's vague description of developments amenities package. [0:56:07, 0:56:09]: So um [0:56:10, 0:56:15]: Here's a comparison of the um of the site plans on the screen. [0:56:17, 0:56:22]: Okay, here's the rendering of the proposed um homes in the new development. [0:56:23, 0:56:40]: You can see there have a brick elevation and water tables on the side. Uh m Mr. Anderson, with due respect, you know we we discussed this earlier and it's certainly gonna be changed. Let's Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Let's Okay we can move this forward. Okay. All right. [0:56:42, 0:56:47]: Okay, well um staff recommended a um approval with conditions. [0:56:48, 0:56:48]: Um [0:56:50, 0:56:51]: There were um [0:56:54, 0:56:56]: Eleven staff conditions, screen. [0:57:06, 0:57:07]: Along with um [0:57:10, 0:57:14]: Twelve other conditions. Uh so it'll be a total of um [0:57:15, 0:57:19]: Twenty three conditions associated with the zoning modification. [0:57:22, 0:57:40]: So condition of approval number one. Um some of these may conflict. One third of the one story homes should have a have a minimum of twenty four hundred square feet of heated space rather than originally twenty five hundred. The front elevations of all the homes shall cons be a mixture of [0:57:41, 0:58:00]: fifty percent brick or stone and harder plank or cement is fiber with a brick or stone water table. However, we got conditions we received today that that trumps this staff condition that and um it says fifty percent of homes will be a hundred percent brick. The remainder will be market driven with some brick and craftman style. [0:58:01, 0:58:15]: Uh minimum s condition number two, minimum square footage will be, as I previously said, twenty four hundred square feet up to thirty-five hundred square feet. Condition number three, twenty-five percent of the homes will be three thousand square feet of over or over. [0:58:16, 0:58:36]: Condition number four, a paved eight-foot multi-use trail will connect the two phases of the subdivision with a pedestrian bridge over Rum Creek. This trail will connect to the 10-foot path along the furniture of Highway 42, 5-foot sidewalks throughout the subdivision, a clubhouse that can accommodate at least 50 people. [0:58:36, 0:58:51]: One pool for the subdivision, not two, a playground, a pool, monument sign at each entrance, a mail kiosk on both sides of the subdivision, and a school bus shelter. And also the Planning Commission added a um a condition that [0:58:51, 0:59:00]: A security fence shall be installed around the back of the development adjacent to the railroad tracks, and it shall extend by fifty feet on each side. So that's it. [0:59:01, 0:59:21]: Yeah go ahead please. Thank you. I appreciate the presentation and uh for clarity certainly uh trying to work these through and get the best possible development is what we've been trying to do to make sure that this product was sufficient and uh in coming with what we have in the area. Um [0:59:21, 0:59:41]: Uh there's been n uh ongoing discussions with the public, ongoing discussions with the developer and people in the area and um just to kinda see what we thought uh would be beneficial to the area. And generally um these size homes at twenty four hundred square feet would be [0:59:41, 1:00:01]: Above what what some of the minimums are and going up to 3,500 square feet would be equivalent to what they have in the Highlands uh subdivision across the street and the uh summit at Eagles Landing and uh certainly the Magnolias at Eagles Landing as well. And I've tried to be very consistent with what the product that I [1:00:01, 1:00:21]: I brought to that I brought or that I considered approving for the district. That we did the same thing here that we did on Brandon Road. On Brandon Road, we required all of the homes in the subdivision, 50% of them to be a 100% brick. So 100% 50% of the houses will be 100%. [1:00:21, 1:00:41]: Brick. And when I when we say market driven, let's say everybody that comes in wants brick on their homes, that then 100% of them will be bricked. The market will determine what is going to happen with the 50%. If they want craftsman style, that'll be flexibility to do that. But 50% of the homes will be 100% brick. [1:00:41, 1:01:01]: Um so that's consistent with what we did uh on Brandon Road, the 10 foot multi-use path along the frontage, uh the connecting sidewalks. And this is it sounded it was a pretty good plan to begin with that they had a multi-use trail built into the plan, and that plan actually this that the [1:01:01, 1:01:21]: Wolf Creek and Rum Creek actually separate two phases of this property. So they're gonna have a multi-use path connecting both sides of this new subdivision to connect the two sides that go over Rum Creek and Wolf Creek there as a multi-use trail. [1:01:21, 1:01:41]: Connecting to Highway 42, because currently Highway 42 has no sidewalks in this area. And as GDOT will widen Highway 42 from McDonough to Stockbridge in 2030, let's be clear on that. They will have a 10-foot multi-use path all the way from McDonough to Stockbridge on Highway 133. [1:01:41, 1:02:01]: So, this is always a part of our connectivity plan to make sure that the neighborhood is sufficient. I had discussed with the developer about having a clubhouse that would suit up to 50 people, that we would have a pool, that we would have a playground there as well in this area. So this subdivision. [1:02:01, 1:02:21]: division will be for fitting with uh what's going on in the area. And I think the one thing that we certainly need to talk about too is street lights is what part of the new the new covenant. Yes, street lights is part of the new of the code required. Right, so certainly we want to add as a condition. Right. So the street lights would be along the s the multi-use path like we've done in the past. [1:02:21, 1:02:41]: But I feel as though, you know, we as a developer will come up and make this. This is he he made a a a statement to me that he wanted to do something similar to what Winding Creek was, or just a little bit above that. And I think that would be in keeping with all of the neighborhoods that are over there uh right now. And with what you're [1:02:41, 1:02:50]: you uh what we will what will be put together will be I think a pr a pretty good product but let's see what they have to uh say in their presentation. [1:02:51, 1:03:02]: question uh in reference to all that, uh maybe unless I missed it, I didn't hear anything about a pickleball court, a tennis court and all that. No, sir. No. So I didn't okay. [1:03:03, 1:03:16]: I just just a curiosity. I'm sure he could put one there, but they didn't propose that. Any other questions for uh uh Ryan Ms. Anson? Okay, do do the blind applicants here they want to speak? Yes, sir, the applicant is here. [1:03:24, 1:03:31]: Good evening. Good evening, sir. Name and address, please. My name's Brian Marshburn. I live at twenty one seventy five Harperfield Terrace, Bogart, Georgia. [1:03:31, 1:03:34]: You have a presentation as well, sir? Uh yes I do, sir. Okay. [1:03:49, 1:03:50]: Yeah. [1:03:54, 1:03:55]: All right. [1:03:55, 1:04:15]: I represent Shaker Ready. My name's Brian Marshburn. I'm the agent for Shaker Ready. Shaker Reddy is a citizen of the United States of America and plans to take his property to highest and best use under his constitutional rights. And I appreciate your time. Mr. Reddy purchased this property right after the recession. The property had been incorporated. [1:04:15, 1:04:35]: There was plans to put uh multifamily here uh that was nixed. There were plans to build uh townhouses here that was not approved. Uh it was reduced to uh a lower density than we are or a higher density than we are. [1:04:35, 1:04:37]: requesting today. Uh we are [1:04:39, 1:04:59]: Uh Mr. Reddy purchased the property under the terms of foreclosure. So he just got it, basically, under all the current conditions. And after reviewing the survey, the size of the lots, uh it's not very permissible to permit most any sized house be built in a cul-de-sac. [1:04:59, 1:05:05]: So the lot uh we as a developer for the owner [1:05:05, 1:05:13]: Uh would like to make less lots than more lots, which is unusual. So the lots and the cul-de-sacks could be used. [1:05:14, 1:05:34]: Uh the development agreement was executed in 2014. Um there's M1 in the area, light industrial, mostly in industrial uses. We requested about seven years ago to meet with the city and they were graceful enough to give us the time, talk to them about putting them back into industrial uses. They said no, we prefer to keep it as a residential, so be it. [1:05:34, 1:05:40]: We're uh we have a a uh a plan to develop the property now. Um [1:05:41, 1:06:00]: The plan is for 59 units. Um the old plan called for two amenities packages, uh one with uh a playground, another one with a pool. Um, but the way it was worded was vague. So uh we're trying to clean that up with a modification, put uh the amenities onto one. [1:06:01, 1:06:02]: parcel um [1:06:02, 1:06:09]: There's only fifty nine lots in the neighborhood, so it's kind of a lot for a small community to maintain that many amenities. [1:06:11, 1:06:31]: Uh our modification requests are pretty small. Um we don't have any changes to the uh proposed uh square footages that were in the old plan. Uh the homes needed to be um consistent with the remaining homes on the east side of highway four. [1:06:31, 1:06:32]: forty two. [1:06:32, 1:06:52]: Park side of Eagles Landing, Magnolias at Eagles Landing, Winding Creek subdivision. There's over maybe 500 homes over there. Most of the, I would say 90% of those homes are brick front or a mixture of brick, stack stone, and stucco with vinyl siding on three sides, or uh [1:06:52, 1:07:02]: uh LP siding on three sides. Ours would have a mixture of stack stone stucco on fifty percent of the frontage with hardy plank on three sides. [1:07:04, 1:07:13]: Uh we request to remove the hardwood trees. I think we're willing to put those back in. Uh we had mentioned that uh during the planning and planning commission meeting. We're amenable to that. [1:07:15, 1:07:25]: the landscape strip between the curb and the um most new subdivisions is two feet between the curb and the sidewalk. This one had been originally proposed to be four feet. [1:07:25, 1:07:28]: And with a five foot sidewalk, but the lots are pretty narrow. [1:07:28, 1:07:32]: Like from the distance from the curb to the house. So if we can make those four feet. [1:07:33, 1:07:33]: Um [1:07:33, 1:07:37]: Most of your DOT people don't want them any water than that in the neighborhood because it covers other utilities. [1:07:39, 1:07:42]: That's not from me, that's from Henry County DOT. I know this is in the city, but [1:07:43, 1:07:44]: Um [1:07:44, 1:07:47]: All the home plans will be approved by the by the city. [1:07:47, 1:07:49]: Uh one amenities lot. [1:07:49, 1:07:52]: Uh we were willing to add uh mailbox banks. [1:07:52, 1:07:57]: And uh the remainder of development standards under the development codes of the city. [1:07:58, 1:08:10]: Uh the renderings are from the uh approved subdivision. There's over 200 lots in this neighborhood. It sold very well, Winding Creek, and they're very representative of what the homes would look like in the community. [1:08:11, 1:08:31]: Um as to the the clubhouse, this is the clubhouse in Winding Creek, but I will note that the clubhouse that's across the street in the neighborhood across the street is not a clubhouse, it's a cabana. Um it has restrooms and uh a dated pool and a dated playground with no mulch or anything on it right now. I just [1:08:31, 1:08:32]: [4114.8, 4121.1]: That that's our request. Um, we would love to have your approval and move forward. Thank you. [1:08:41, 1:09:01]: Any questions, Council? Yes, sir. As indicated in our conversations previously, um we talked about having a fifty percent of the units would be a hundred percent brick and the rest of them would be craftsman style. I think Mr. Anderson wrote um those into the conditions that we had required. [1:09:01, 1:09:20]: I I understand that, but it's not consistent with all the other neighborhoods on that side of the street. Okay. But every home on that side of the street in each of the park view, Magnolia, and Winding Creek are three sides parking. Let him finish talking. Let him finish talking, please. Go ahead, sir. [1:09:20, 1:09:33]: Their three sides hardy plank and brick front are are a mixture thereof, and we are requesting the exact same conditions and standards that those subdivisions are able to enjoy. [1:09:35, 1:09:47]: Let me answer that. And I told you on the phone today earlier we were raising the standards in the city. And every development on Brandon Road was done that way. And if you want this development in my vote, that's what we're gonna do. [1:09:49, 1:09:54]: All right, well the proposed pot project that was pushed to the end of this meeting. [1:09:55, 1:09:58]: I meet the exact same development standards as they do. [1:09:58, 1:10:01]: Are are you agreeable to that, sir? [1:10:02, 1:10:02]: No, sir. [1:10:03, 1:10:08]: You're not agreeable to what we agree to? No, sir. Well, you can't have my vote. Okay. [1:10:09, 1:10:11]: Any other questions for the gentleman? Yeah, go ahead, please. [1:10:12, 1:10:12]: Okay. [1:10:14, 1:10:22]: I live in Lakeside. Okay. So not too far from here. Thank you. Um, so I find this really interesting. Um [1:10:23, 1:10:25]: So the f uh for fee. [1:10:25, 1:10:35]: I know you mentioned about needing more room for utilities. Um, I don't particularly like having shorter [1:10:35, 1:10:47]: Sidewalks. Is there any other alternative It's the width, not the length. So even the width. Okay. Four feet, five feet, so be it. I mean it are you able to do wider? [1:10:47, 1:10:48]: I mean [1:10:49, 1:10:50]: What? [1:10:50, 1:11:05]: Is there any other option? I mean, I don't have an objection to it. I'm just the messenger. So uh it the requ the request was was to redo the the volume of concrete used in the project. So if we need to go from four feet to five feet. [1:11:05, 1:11:07]: You know, I I don't think it's a deal killer. [1:11:07, 1:11:12]: А б таймин проти, амі да [1:11:12, 1:11:17]: It's inconsistent with the remaining neighborhoods that have already been approved and are on the agenda for tonight. [1:11:20, 1:11:35]: Mr. Anderson, really quick question. So what are what is the standards for sidewalks for us? Is it five feet or eight feet? Always gonna carry in the interior of the subdivision is five feet. Okay. Okay. Okay. Um [1:11:38, 1:11:40]: That's the only question that I have. Okay. [1:11:40, 1:11:50]: Thank you. No problem. If no other questions if if no other questions and this is this is a uh a public hearing, so I have to open it up. Okay? Okay. So you can have a sit down, sir. [1:11:50, 1:12:05]: Can I come back up? Well you can yes. I'll bring it back up after we do this, okay? That'd be fine. All right. So the public hearing. So I need comments from my very uh left side, and the comments from my left side, four. Four is a vote, and the comments from the left side. Any comments in the middle. [1:12:06, 1:12:07]: Four. [1:12:07, 1:12:09]: And he comes from my far right, four. [1:12:10, 1:12:14]: Any comments against this particular development on my left side, my far left. [1:12:15, 1:12:16]: Anybody in the middle? [1:12:17, 1:12:19]: Before I write in comments against [1:12:19, 1:12:25]: Okay, so no comments on that note, then I'll close that particular part of the public hearing. And sir um [1:12:25, 1:12:43]: Uh once again if there are any com you can um you can come on back up uh Anderson please, sir. If there are any other comments, uh we need to have those and uh and then we'll go through the process. Now you read off the con all the conditions, you read off all the conditions already. Yes, and um and I'm uh [1:12:44, 1:12:55]: My assumption other than uh my assumption other than maybe what I just recently heard, all those other conditions you mentioned must be a a minimal. That I mean there's no problem with those other assumptions, I guess. Uh no sir. Uh conditions, I'm sorry. [1:12:56, 1:13:09]: Some of the conditions are staff condition um from the planning commission meeting and then uh other conditions uh were added. Um to try to get it. Yes, sir. It's it's one of the staff conditions. Okay. Yes, sir. [1:13:10, 1:13:11]: All right. All right. [1:13:13, 1:13:24]: Okay, y you you're thinking hold on a second, she's think she's like you're you're concerned. I got a couple of questions. Okay, one second. I'm just looking at Miss Gantt here, the way she's got expression on her face here. What what's on your mind? [1:13:24, 1:13:30]: I'm gonna I'm gonna let my colleagues speak first and then we'll go from there. Okay. You have comments, ma'am? [1:13:31, 1:13:37]: I didn't but I do have a thought. So Mr Anderson. Yes. [1:13:39, 1:13:52]: I know that our standards requ well, we allow a mixture of both brick and hardy plank and others. Um there is no particular requirement, is there? [1:13:52, 1:14:12]: for a four sided wreck. Mm-hmm. Currently not in the code, but uh we can we can up attach it as a condition of a z condition of zoning approval. We can attach for we can attach and a requirement for zoning condition of zoning approval to a certain percentage of the units being uh certain unit [1:14:12, 1:14:16]: [4457.7, 4464.8]: Um so what new developments have been approved by the council requiring four sided brick? [1:14:25, 1:14:26]: Uh mm [1:14:26, 1:14:28]: Have there been any recent? [1:14:30, 1:14:32]: Um trying to think of [1:14:32, 1:14:52]: Brennan Road Liberty uh reserve hickory hickory reserve over there and then the mister Anderson. Yes, we have. I I just couldn't think of the the name right away'cause I go through so many okay zoning uh m information. So but yes, we have approved some some some developers even volunteer to have Foresight. [1:14:54, 1:15:11]: Okay. Well, a whole lot of town homes have been approved in my district. So I welcome single family these hatched homes. Um and it didn't get my support. And I don't believe any of them had brick or four side brick. But what [1:15:11, 1:15:15]: Um that's just my district. What? Um district four. [1:15:15, 1:15:35]: Some of those in your district, Councilmember Barber, were approved before um we changed our standards, mm-hmm, uh MFR standards, but in the future they can build what they they got approved for in the past. Okay. So we changed that. Okay. Well nine has been approved. I don't think we have room for any more. Thank you, sir. [1:15:35, 1:15:42]: Okay. You have something else, sir? Yeah. I mean I live in a hard three side hardy plank home. [1:15:42, 1:15:43]: My house is [1:15:44, 1:15:45]: thirty three hundred square feet. [1:15:46, 1:15:48]: My neighbor's house is twenty four hundred square feet. [1:15:48, 1:15:51]: The neighbor to my left is twenty seven hundred square feet. [1:15:52, 1:15:54]: My home is three sides, Hardy Plank. [1:15:54, 1:15:57]: And I have uh brick accents on the front. [1:15:57, 1:15:58]: Uh [1:15:58, 1:16:18]: I live in a pretty attractive neighborhood. Uh my home would be similar to these homes. I'm happy to share this image with you. That's fine. No need to do that. No, no, no, it's fine. No need to do that. I just think it's I just think it's uh it it's gonna increase the the home price for a purchaser in this market right now. They're gonna be outpriced other [1:16:18, 1:16:33]: market. Right now in Georgia MLS and 30210 or 30281 area code, there are only five homes under contract. Five. So this project's been sitting idle for 15 years. [1:16:34, 1:16:42]: And for seven years I have had an issue trying to sell this property because the property is unmarketable because it requires mostly brick homes. [1:16:42, 1:16:46]: And all the other communities in the uh surrounding area that have been approved. [1:16:47, 1:16:47]: And I've been built [1:16:48, 1:16:59]: Our three sided hardy plank with a mixture of Staxon and Stucco. That is the only request and that is the only reason that we're asking for the request. We're not requesting it because we want to save money on the project. [1:16:59, 1:17:19]: The the market in this community is between about three fifty and five fifty. That's the sweet spot for a house. We put four-sided brick home, which I'd love to build them four-sided brick, but I just don't see that it's gonna sell. I mean, we can get it approved, we can break ground, we can start building, and we're gonna have fifty-eight vacant lots. So [1:17:19, 1:17:20]: So that's not our intent. [1:17:21, 1:17:21]: All right. [1:17:21, 1:17:41]: Thank you. Appreciate it. Mr. Alexander, you still have another comment, sir? Yeah, I do. And uh I I just this is the thing. We went we endeavored to do what we did to make sure that we were raising the standards in the community. Now, the the development that we approved on Brandon Road was 50% Brandon. [1:17:41, 1:17:48]: brick homes, fifty percent. We we did that because the neighbors asked us to do that. [1:17:51, 1:18:11]: The neighbors asked us to do that. And we did that because what we were doing was to do what the neighbors wanted us to do. Because the homes in Providence Harbor were a million dollars. And they were designed to make uh the community and to improve the community. Now what we've done uh [1:18:11, 1:18:20]: uh on Brandon Road in the new neighborhood that's under construction and what we've done uh over at uh I'm talking I'm talking [1:18:23, 1:18:37]: What I've done is I've been able to move forward with the Pulty community, they agreed to do it, with the Liberty community agreed to do it. Uh we did some townhomes right down the street. [1:18:37, 1:18:57]: uh uh by Meritage, this very same company, Meritage, right at the corner of Highway 42 and um and Campground Road. The bungalows are three sides brick with rear entry garages on them. Uh on those side on on the even on the bungalows that are a [1:18:57, 1:19:17]: Accline with the townhomes. So we've been doing what we're doing, and everything that I've been trying to do and get approved in my district has had at least three-sides brick. And the compromise with the neighbors on Brandon Road is that their homes were 100% brick and a million dollars. And right behind this neighborhood is Eagle. [1:19:17, 1:19:19]: Landing Country Club. [1:19:20, 1:19:40]: This neighborhood backs up to Eagles Landing Country Club. So there's a fence. That's why the Planning Commission asked that they uh have that fence there because the Eagles Landing Country Club is on the other side of this neighborhood. And certainly I've been reached out to by neighbors from the country club, and there was a gentleman who actually showed up at the [1:19:40, 1:20:00]: the Planning Commission who lived at Eagles Landing Country Club, who wanted to make sure that his property value wasn't going to be impacted by the neighborhood that was behind him. So having a higher price point when you got a$2 million house across the street behind this house is significant for us to be able to maintain that. [1:20:00, 1:20:20]: I noticed that we did not have that mentioned in the well we talked about the neighborhoods that were of a lower standard that were approved before this council, but there was no mention that this neighborhood backs up to Eagles Landing Country Club. And there are million-dollar homes right behind this neighborhood. No one said anything about that. [1:20:19, 1:20:39]: That's what we're trying to establish here is we're trying to establish a middle ground where we are because fifty percent of the homes are exactly what the developer has asked for. 50% of the homes are exactly what he asked for. They would be brick, stone, or stucco. He could do they could be done any way that they want to. [1:20:40, 1:20:43]: But fifty percent of the homes will be a hundred percent brick. [1:20:44, 1:21:04]: Henry County, that's what they're doing with their homes. And they're being very consistent because if you look at the neighborhood on Jodico Road, um it has uh right down from the bridges at Jodico, it has four-side brick homes all the way through that particular neighborhood. Uh if we look at the bridges at Jodeco, [1:21:04, 1:21:24]: Dodaco, the townhomes over there, or three-size brick on the uh Tessa development over there, and the uh homes that they're gonna be building uh in there by Poulte would be consistent with that. What I'm trying to get us to understand is that we are trying to raise the standard in the community. [1:21:24, 1:21:44]: I'm not necessarily opposed to Hardy Plank because 50% of the homes would consist of hardy plank, stone, or stucco. 50% of them would. They would be exactly what he asked for. But again, in talking with the neighbors in Providence Harbor, talking with the neighbors in St. Andrews, talking with the neighbors. [1:21:44, 1:22:04]: In Clark Meadow and the Magnolias at Eagles Landing over there. The Magnolias at Eagles Landing has some similar homes too that are four-size brick. Some of them are. So what we're trying to do is we're trying to meet the middle ground where we have million-dollar homes behind this neighborhood. In front of this neighborhood, we have [1:22:04, 1:22:24]: Some h some so we have some pretty good neighborhoods in the summit at Eagles Landing. We have some substandard neighborhoods that were approved in the early 2000s where those houses are literally falling apart at this point. So what I'm trying to do is hit the middle on that and to compromise. And I'm I'm a little disappointed that we [1:22:24, 1:22:44]: We I thought we had an agreement and uh the gentleman told me on the phone, okay, everything was okay, so we wouldn't have this debate here at the meeting, and now I find myself in this position of, you know, we're we're here. It's a little disappointing, but certainly if we don't if we don't stand for something, we'll fall for anything. [1:22:43, 1:23:03]: Because in the end, if the price point is$300,000 to$500,000, right? Where we're trying to go. And I I take issue with the fact what was said is that, okay, the the the hardy plank will have the same value as the brick, and you don't want to do it. [1:23:03, 1:23:08]: wouldn't you wanna do it? The night the reason you don't want to do it is'cause the bricks cost more. [1:23:08, 1:23:28]: The bricks are going to cost more. It's going to raise the property value on the home. And that's what I would see doing. And certainly we need single-family detached homes in the neighborhood. But what we're missing is, and I'm going to close this within the next 60 seconds, people are literally leaving Stockbridge right now to [1:23:28, 1:23:34]: to go to Hampton, to go to McDonough, to go to other areas. Why are they doing that? [1:23:34, 1:23:54]: They don't have the home to upgrade to. But if they had a 3,500 square feet or 3,200 all brick home, they wouldn't have to move to Hampton, to the Henry County houses that require four-side brick. They wouldn't have to move to Ellenwood to the Henry County homes that require four-side brick. They wouldn't have to move to Locust Grove to the Henry County home. [1:23:54, 1:24:14]: That require four-side brick. We're trying to make sure that we're consistent with what they're doing in those areas because people right now in my district I have zero single family homes for sale in that area that will be able to have somebody be able to upgrade. And that's what the issue is right now. And certainly [1:24:14, 1:24:34]: Again, as I said, the bridges at Jodico Development, they have three-size brick with rear entry garages on Tessa. The Jodico Development has at Henry County. All of their developments have four-side brick on them. The Jonesboro Road development under Henry County, all four-size brick. That's what they're doing. Now on the town. [1:24:34, 1:24:53]: homes in order to make things a little bit cheaper. They don't put on brick on those because that's where the affordable housing component comes in at. But we have that here in this neighborhood because 50% of the houses will be 100% brick and 50% of the houses will be exactly like the developer has described. Thank you. [1:24:53, 1:24:56]: Right. Any other comments at all? Ms. Gantt? Oh. [1:24:57, 1:24:58]: Folks. [1:24:58, 1:24:59]: Go ahead. Go. [1:25:00, 1:25:03]: I just wanted to ask him, how many bedrooms? [1:25:04, 1:25:10]: Uh the minimum smart footage for paper. Okay. Smart footage of paper. [1:25:15, 1:25:17]: The answer to the question is how many bedrooms? [1:25:18, 1:25:32]: The the question is how many bedrooms? The minimum on a ranch is three bedrooms. You probably wouldn't have four to five bedrooms in the two stories. Um these these homes are gonna be pretty desirable. I mean, like [1:25:34, 1:25:39]: I w I'm really wishing. The homes that are [1:25:40, 1:25:41]: that flank [1:25:41, 1:25:45]: And both neighborhoods on the north and the south side. [1:25:45, 1:25:54]: I mean, at random you can pick any one on tax records and the average is probably about twenty two hundred square feet. Can you show the elevations again? [1:25:55, 1:26:04]: Yeah, sure. I like to have them in my district. It's the same as Wanding Creek. So I mean I th there's no change in [1:26:05, 1:26:08]: And the elevation, uh there'll be the similar elevation. [1:26:09, 1:26:10]: I mean [1:26:10, 1:26:27]: I I there over the over two hundred of these houses sold in about two years. So I mean I I know these homes will sell. So these are at a price point that a uh that a buyer can afford and it's an upgrade for most of the homes in the community. Um these homes will [1:26:28, 1:26:34]: Probably around about a forty five hundred dollar a month mortgage payment, principal interest, taxes, and insurance. [1:26:35, 1:26:43]: My mortgage payment's about twenty five hundred a month, and I think it's a lot. So um forgive me, but I mean, I don't know that. [1:26:44, 1:26:53]: The average person in this 250,000 people area of Henry County, I mean no, we're in the city of Stockbridge. [1:26:53, 1:27:10]: And we're trying to obtain a uh a nicer development. But I think this is is it for the for the community. And I mean, I I I really I would love to make'em four size brick. I would love to, but I just don't foresee that it being economically feasible. [1:27:11, 1:27:14]: What one s one second. Mm Ms. Gantt, do you have a question? [1:27:15, 1:27:26]: Just a a question a real quick comment. Like it kinda like what we do with townhomes, uh like in this picture alone, if I'm coming down the road and that's the first house I see, can it be? [1:27:26, 1:27:31]: Th these are actual photos inside of Winding Creek. Okay. [1:27:31, 1:27:38]: Okay. Th this is Winding Creek. This is Winding Creek. Yeah. And these homes sold between three twenty five and four fifty. [1:27:38, 1:27:58]: Well something that um what we started doing is those in homes we put when you first drive in and you can see those front homes, we put brick on all sides so visibility so when they walk in they'll see the brick on that that one corner house. Well what what if we put brick? [1:27:58, 1:28:00]: Brick on the entryway homes. [1:28:01, 1:28:18]: That that's what I'm saying. Those entryways or those main the roads. We could uh do the same facade on the rest of'em on the interior, but you from the from the from the visibility standpoint from Highway forty two it'd be brick. Correct. Yes, ma'am. Um so [1:28:20, 1:28:23]: Uh some of my concerns about the market is [1:28:23, 1:28:33]: Um just that. Um we've seen articles now where people say there's a seller's market. There are more sellers than there are buyers. However, [1:28:33, 1:28:37]: In Stockbridge, there's a dire need for housing. [1:28:37, 1:28:57]: Now, what that housing looks like, I mean, I can't imagine paying five thousand dollars in a mortgage. Like it's it's expensive. Things have gotten out of hand um to a certain degree and and very unaffordable. I mean the cost of living has increased and people are still getting paid the same of wage, they might get a little bit of an increase. [1:28:57, 1:29:00]: But nothing compared to [1:29:00, 1:29:03]: Вот гаска рокет і матеріал. [1:29:04, 1:29:05]: In our community. [1:29:05, 1:29:06]: And [1:29:06, 1:29:09]: I think we all are affected by it. [1:29:10, 1:29:10]: And [1:29:11, 1:29:14]: one of my largest concerns is I don't hear [1:29:14, 1:29:16]: Oh you know, I don't [1:29:17, 1:29:37]: Quite honestly, I wanna make it affordable, but I don't want it looking cheap, right? And if we have a if we have a product that has whatever our our normal is with the percentage of our product on uh based off of the way it should look, and we put the brick like we did everything like [1:29:37, 1:29:41]: the standards, you know, visibility wise. [1:29:42, 1:29:54]: I'm a little prone to that because of the desire and need for single family dwellings. When you there has been a it's been a moment since I've had a person come up here about a subdivision. [1:29:54, 1:30:01]: with housing. Like I I'd much rather have some home, some single family housing than [1:30:01, 1:30:04]: the new trend of everybody trying to do um [1:30:04, 1:30:19]: town homes. And I I'm not against I I'm not trying to be biased, but there is a need. And that need also needs to be within reason. A lot of times people I hear from [1:30:19, 1:30:32]: And I'm a real estate lawyer and I'm a family law lawyer and what I hear from people is I wanted to buy a house in Stockbridge, but it was too high and I couldn't afford it. [1:30:32, 1:30:34]: But I'm not saying to make it [1:30:35, 1:30:55]: Cheap. I want I want quality. I know that the$350,$550 range, but I've seen in other areas where townhomes have dropped some. You know, they started a price point of$400,000, it dropped down to$300, and then it dropped down to$200. And there is again, there is this art. [1:30:54, 1:31:14]: articles out there there's a seller's there's a buyer's market because there are more sellers than there are buyers. But here there's a need. And to me that need is for subdivisions with single family homes, not necessarily town homes. Um I mean I I I there are some town homes that I welcome [1:31:14, 1:31:29]: you know, I uh mo more modern, three story, you know, name it, trendy. But in the same instance, I wanna make this work. Um, and so I if it's in code and it's based off the recommendation of [1:31:29, 1:31:41]: our um our uh community development director and planning and z zoning or or whatever the case may be, we need to [1:31:42, 1:31:50]: Really look at the need. And to me, the need is what new single family subdivisions do we have here? [1:31:51, 1:31:57]: So I would love to make this work. And I respect the fact that my colleague, this is his district. [1:31:58, 1:32:18]: I want it to work for him, but I also want to be fair for our community and want to make sure that it fits. And if it's gonna look I mean it didn't look the product you just showed me did not look bad in my opinion. Um I I'm not saying I do want it to look excellent, but I didn't [1:32:18, 1:32:20]: And see something where [1:32:21, 1:32:25]: Y you know, in character I've always said I I don't want [1:32:25, 1:32:38]: I don't want all four brick houses. I mean I everybody have brick. It's just is no character involved. Concern about this particular development as well is on the rear of this property is Norfolk Southern Railroad. [1:32:39, 1:32:42]: On the north of the property is a recycling center. [1:32:42, 1:32:45]: So this property was zoned industrial. [1:32:46, 1:32:49]: On the south of the subject property is industrial. [1:32:50, 1:32:56]: Those aren't gonna change. The north of the property is Fortune Metal Recycling. They recycle metal. [1:32:57, 1:32:59]: Амін, ви наскін [1:32:59, 1:33:19]: for to build an inexpensive home here. We're asking to build a quality home out of the same materials that have been used on similar subdivisions in District Five and sold. So uh that's the only thing that we're requesting. We're not requesting anything unrealistic. Um [1:33:21, 1:33:23]: Um Mr. Anderson. Yes. [1:33:24, 1:33:43]: Yes. It would be up to code and materials. There is a percent certain percentage of brick that's required. Is that not correct? That would be a condition of approval. However, um our current code is is pretty stringent. Uh you can't anything you build in in Stockbridge right now, because of the changes we made recently to our code, would be pretty much class A. [1:33:45, 1:34:05]: So all Class A materials are currently required. So um the request for four sided brick is just to increase the property value of the homes in the area or in that in that particular subdivision. But even if we went strictly by our current code, it still would be a class A product. [1:34:05, 1:34:05]: Um [1:34:07, 1:34:10]: Mr. Bear, go ahead, please. [1:34:10, 1:34:30]: Yeah. So I wanted to kinda piggyback off of uh Councilwoman Gantt's statement and I wanted to see where the middle ground was. Um maybe we can split the baby. I I I don't know the background on it, but um the fifty percent brick, um what's what's the number that we're we're good at? [1:34:30, 1:34:50]: What's what's a like where where's the mid middle ground? We're willing to do brick on the exterior homes, like the front up on the highway forty-two. When you entered the two flanking, I use the two flanking subject. The two the two entryways. Well the one that goes into Magnolia and the one that goes into Parkside. And just that standard was made. [1:34:49, 1:35:03]: met in those two communities. So the first say two homes in each of those communities, when you go into the entryways, they are three sided, whatever they are. What's the total number of homes on on both sides? [1:35:03, 1:35:23]: You have it in your presentation that was verified. Yeah, uh well. But let's say it's six hundred total, maybe more. Um and most of them are much smaller than the min the minimum square footage that would be probably in hours. Yeah, that's my presentation that would be staff's presentation. So so so the homes you're talking about, how many homes would that would that be? [1:35:23, 1:35:43]: So could we could we go to a higher number on the entryway like the first five or the first if that's Well there's fifty nine homes in the community, so it's pretty small. So I mean what if we did two, four, six, on each side of the street, two, four, two, four, six, eight. Make those three sides brick. [1:35:43, 1:36:03]: And then do the remaining of those with uh fifty percent stacks on our stuff up or break fifty percent that's that sounds like a a reasonable w what you think. Let me let me say this. Sounds like a reasonable um that it's a fair compromise in where we're trying to [1:36:03, 1:36:23]: To go. But I think what he was trying to hit on, and what I was trying to hit on, is what is an acceptable number for 100% brick? Is it 25%? Is it 30% brick? Where 70% of them are like the council is asking for? What's that number where if two, four, six, and eight are brick? [1:36:23, 1:36:30]: What's the acceptable number? Is it twenty five percent? Is it thirty percent? What I I just want some a hundred percent brick homes in the neighborhood. [1:36:34, 1:36:54]: And if if those homes on the front were gonna be hundred a hundred percent brick or three size brick, that certainly could be a compromise position. But there in in my district, I want brick on mo on those homes because I I with all due respect I with with what you propose, sir. [1:36:54, 1:37:14]: I I just haven't seen anybody come in here to Stockbridge and say the house was too expensive. I haven't seen that. I'll only what I've seen come here is people moving out of the neighborhood to try to find a four-side brick home in Hampton. And we've lost population to that because buyers are trying to upgrade. So I'm trying to [1:37:14, 1:37:29]: to get more brick on these homes and certainly if that was a compromise position to have the homes or twenty five percent of them or thirty percent of them uh be brick. You know, if you're looking at fifty nine, somebody do the math. What's the percentage? [1:37:29, 1:37:30]: Thirteen. [1:37:31, 1:37:34]: So that would be thirteen uh percent. [1:37:35, 1:37:37]: So again, thirteen percent. [1:37:40, 1:37:42]: The two four six eight just about twelve thousand. [1:37:43, 1:37:46]: Right. So could we get to twenty percent? [1:37:50, 1:37:51]: Wow. [1:37:51, 1:38:00]: Forgive me, but Winding Creek, there are over two hundred homes in there. It's a hundred and seven. Okay. How m how many, sir? A hundred and seven. One hundred seven? [1:38:01, 1:38:21]: And they they're all the same standards as these and they just sold two years ago. With w uh do with correction, Winding Creek was rezoned in twenty seventeen before most a lot they got the last two got here and certainly that was before the council was inv or any of us were involved in upgrading the standard of the L L D C Tell us what [1:38:21, 1:38:29]: What number is it? What number is acceptable to you where we can try to negotiate as Mr. Barber does? What number four four more homes? [1:38:29, 1:38:32]: Twenty percent is twelve homes, four more homes. [1:38:41, 1:38:43]: We'll give you a ten. How about that? [1:38:44, 1:38:47]: Ten. Ten all break homes. Yes. [1:38:48, 1:38:53]: What if I did you a favor? What if we make the front homes, the front [1:38:55, 1:39:01]: The front four homes all brick and every home all brick on the front. Completely. [1:39:01, 1:39:03]: That sounds like we could work that out. [1:39:05, 1:39:08]: One hundred percent brick, stone, or stucco fronts. [1:39:09, 1:39:14]: They can have some accents, maybe up to twenty percent s with uh hardy plank on the front. [1:39:15, 1:39:35]: Okay, hold hold on one second. There's not a no we're not talking about No, I'm not I'm not I'm not trying to be funny here. I'm just trying to say that because you're gonna have uh facade pieces and accents and that sort of thing and the and the gables. Right but but if we could have eighty percent of the front uh a hundred percent uh eighty percent stack stone stucco or or [1:39:35, 1:39:44]: or brick, and then we'll make the the four front ones all brick or all stack stone stucco or or or uh first four [1:39:44, 1:40:04]: First four when you go in so be one, two, three, four, all sides, uh hardy plank, no, excuse me, uh eighty eighty percent stack stone, stucco, or brick. And then all of the fronts on all of the homes in the community would be stack stone stucco eighty stone. [1:40:04, 1:40:15]: Eighty percent. So in other words, twenty percent. Let me tell you something. I'm trying to save you. Fifty percent of the homes don't could be craftsman style. That's what I was trying to tell you. Give me the same standards as the one behind me. [1:40:17, 1:40:37]: We try that's what we're trying to trying to come to a resolution. This this neighborhood this neighborhood that's on on the agenda. That's up up next right behind me. That is let me tell you something. That is not forward like that. If you could give me the exact same standards that you're gonna put They're not gonna get that standard. They're not. They already know that. Okay. They're not getting [1:40:37, 1:40:57]: In that standard tonight. I was just wondering why we got the agenda shuffle tonight. Mayor. Yes, yes. Let me just finish real quick. If I could. I was uh I I'm I want to stick with where bear Mr. Berry is. We we got a compromise. All we need you to do is tell us what houses we were at how many miss Mr. Barber? Where was it? Mr. Berry, we was at 18. [1:40:57, 1:40:59]: Twelve. [1:41:00, 1:41:18]: Tend the toy. What number I'm I'm willing to do every front on the whole community, eighty percent stack stone stucco or brick. And I'm willing to do the front four houses a hundred percent all the way around and the fronts eighty percent so they can look the same uh facade as match the whole rest of the community. [1:41:19, 1:41:31]: So you're only do willing to do four all four four all on the front. So that when you're driving down forty two it eight homes. So eight divided by fifty nine is thirteen and a half percent. [1:41:34, 1:41:40]: And I'll increase the standards from fifty to eighty for stack stone stuck on all the houses. [1:41:41, 1:41:44]: We can do that. We can do that. [1:41:44, 1:41:51]: And then they'd have a water table on two sides too. So the water table comes up. So we've gotten a hundred percent brick homes in there, so we can do that. [1:41:52, 1:41:55]: Is that agreeable? I'm agreeable to it. [1:41:57, 1:42:03]: Long as it captured uh on the properly in the it's in the motion if that's the case. [1:42:05, 1:42:12]: Would you like me to repeat it? Yes, sir. Okay. All homes front, eighty percent stack, stone, stucco, or brick. [1:42:17, 1:42:19]: We'll still do the water table on three sides. [1:42:25, 1:42:45]: And the four homes that face or they don't front, the sides would be fronting on 42. Those homes, the three sides would be 100% brick, stone, or stucco on the three sides, and the front would be [1:42:45, 1:42:52]: the same as all the rest of'em. So they all match or could match or be similar facades. [1:42:53, 1:43:12]: That's a brick all the way around. Right. That's our time. Well y I just wanted to be real clear. Oh no, okay. We intend for this community to be a sell. So and be y everyone be proud of it. I don't want anybody to not be proud of it. [1:43:14, 1:43:14]: Okay. [1:43:16, 1:43:30]: Mayor, now redo let's go over all of the conditions again. Now we had talked about um you know making sure that we have five foot sidewalks in there. Yeah, go ahead please. [1:43:36, 1:43:37]: Yes, ma'am. [1:43:40, 1:43:41]: On the front. [1:43:52, 1:43:54]: On all of them. [1:43:55, 1:43:56]: On the balance of them. [1:44:02, 1:44:06]: Four sides. And there's there's four of them. So there's four. [1:44:06, 1:44:15]: The ones that front, the side if they have a face that that you can see from forty two, there'd be four of them, then all that would be four side brick. [1:44:19, 1:44:20]: Yes. [1:44:22, 1:44:42]: So it'll be an upgrade from Winding Creek. Right. We have five uh foot sidewalks, is that correct? Yes, sir. Right. Now we had talked about the amenities. We got a clubhouse with the clubhouse. We we have a clubhouse, but what I would like, and uh we have the same in my community as well, we don't have an actual physical clubhouse where you can meet. We have a it's [1:44:42, 1:44:51]: It's a cabana with two restrooms, which is has a shower in there. It has a a covered area and a big porch with a uh what do you call uh [1:44:52, 1:45:12]: Hardy plank, not hardy plank, but tongue and groove under it. And then it's uh just a covered cabana. It's pretty big. It's about fifty. It's not a gazebo, it's part of the building. But it's big enough where you can get a crowd under there out of the rain. And we have our HOA meetings there. The little community I live in is similar to this one. It's only 42 lines. [1:45:12, 1:45:30]: lots. So we have a HOA meeting. Everyone just meets over there. If it's hot, you stand under there. But this a small neighborhood. So we're trying to keep the HOA fees low. Correct. So five or six hundred bucks a month is about the max that's going to be. So if I gotta put a building there that I got a heat and air. [1:45:30, 1:45:34]: They're gonna have to pay for that too. So I mean I'm just trying to keep it manageable. [1:45:34, 1:45:47]: Uh well what I would say suggest is that since there's only fifty nine homes that there'd be a smaller building but that do be in a closed building, because you d you're living in a four hundred thousand to five hundred thousand dollar house and you're not gonna have a clubhouse. [1:45:47, 1:45:51]: But couldn't we just go across the street and pay the church some money to have a meeting? [1:45:52, 1:46:10]: Uh oh are we gonna lower the standards? No, I don't think so. So uh what does the council think about the neighbor neighbor the community across the street? Sure excuse me. I'm we've been pretty consistent in that we've asked for clubhouses on these communities. Is that what the desire of the council is so we can move forward? Or no? Or the cabana is the cabana okay. [1:46:11, 1:46:18]: Mayor, I have a question. Mr. Anderson, what's the requirements for how many houses you have to have to have certain amenities? [1:46:18, 1:46:24]: Uh one hundred use the triggers. Okay, this is fifty nine. So my thing is I'm gonna go with the cabana. [1:46:25, 1:46:36]: What's the requirement again? Because it's a hundred homes. We cannot we've got uh what I'm seeing is is a a I don't wanna alarm the public as if it's a crisis. [1:46:36, 1:46:45]: But again, people are suffering. I'm not trying to build anything cheap. Let me get this really clear. But I want to be within reason. [1:46:46, 1:46:55]: I I think it's just it just makes sense. And if I'm out of order, I I'm out of order. It's just me. I mean each individual one of us are up here to [1:46:56, 1:47:02]: vote. We can't all we don't always agree. But my concern with this is is making sure [1:47:03, 1:47:06]: That we are not out pricing the market. [1:47:07, 1:47:11]: We I I just want us to be within reason. Fifty nine homes with the HOA. [1:47:12, 1:47:14]: Is is is that's tough. [1:47:14, 1:47:17]: You you're putting a a a tough [1:47:17, 1:47:21]: requirement on fifty nine families. That's tough. [1:47:21, 1:47:34]: So you want to do it. With the clubhouse. Yeah, I I do. I I don't I want what just was said. I just don't think and I'm not here to advocate for that. I'm just saying you're gonna keep the price a little bit lower. You only have fifty nine homes. [1:47:35, 1:47:48]: You you're the requirement, there's a reason. What is the number again, Mr. Anderson, for the requirement for us with the amenities and the clubhouse? What's the one hundred is the starting one hundred. Yes. We don't have that number. [1:47:49, 1:47:51]: I'm not gonna go I'm not gonna do that. [1:47:52, 1:48:08]: Well again that certainly that's that's what I'm asking because in the end it's like we can request what we desire but at the same time that's that's what automatically triggers it. That doesn't mean it's not necessary for a five hundred thousand dollar neighborhood. But it's gonna be up to the rest of the council. What do you think, Mr Berry? [1:48:10, 1:48:19]: I'm gonna have to uh go the same way. Um, I know the number's a hundred but I'm kinda indifferent on it because the price point, we're talking about a nicer neighborhood. [1:48:20, 1:48:20]: Um [1:48:22, 1:48:31]: What is the pr I guess my question to you is what is the the financial ramifications of a small clubhouse versus a cabana or something that may have [1:48:33, 1:48:45]: What's what's the difference? The the likelihood of increased fees probably a hundred bucks per month per year per door, so fifty nine hundred dollars a year. [1:48:45, 1:48:48]: Uh, plus you've got uh the cost to build it. [1:48:48, 1:48:52]: So that's gonna get divided upon fifty nine houses, so [1:48:53, 1:48:54]: I mean really [1:48:54, 1:49:04]: I live in a very similar size neighborhood. So and I've shared photographs of my house. I feel very comfortable built with this product and it [1:49:04, 1:49:05]: The pool. [1:49:06, 1:49:09]: And the amenities they get used a little bit. [1:49:09, 1:49:28]: Um we all pay to keep'em up and make'em look nice. The homeowners will. Does the does the pool area allow access for the kids to have somewhere to change or at least use the restrooms? Oh yeah. They have two restrooms, men's and women's, and they have showers in there as well. So I mean they're pretty nice. Um I mean we've [1:49:29, 1:49:49]: Built communities that have clubhouses, but they had 155 lots. So it was a little bit more for them to to tolerate. I mean, this is a very small neighborhood. Does it have a picnic area for congregating, like if you wanted to have a kid's birthday party? Yes. Yeah, so they have the space around there. It'd be a poor concrete match. [1:49:48, 1:49:50]: [6591.0, 6595.0]: Um a cabana, pretty big cabana. Um I [1:49:56, 1:50:11]: If I had Google Maps, I could show you ours. It's great. Um what the area out behind the pool is where the uh playground will go. It'd be a professionally built playground, um, up to code, um, and fenced with a uh [1:50:12, 1:50:13]: Aluminum fence. [1:50:13, 1:50:26]: Yeah. What what the only thing that I would say to that is if I'm in December, am I gonna be sitting outside? If it was a smaller enclosed unit, I can meet in my neighborhood. Otherwise I gotta go to Holiday Inn to have a community meeting. [1:50:27, 1:50:30]: And then those meetings in the summertime are gonna be god awful hot. [1:50:31, 1:50:32]: We got fans. [1:50:32, 1:50:45]: It's gonna be god awful high. So we can have'em after six. The compromise will be a smaller unit, smaller enclosed unit, something that they can meet in in a neighborhood so they don't have to leave their neighborhood to meet. [1:50:45, 1:50:50]: I I think that's reasonable. I mean a m uh I guess it's up to the mayor and Miss Barber. [1:50:53, 1:51:13]: Well, I've I've I've I'm I have the luxury of living in the one of the largest communities in the in the county. So I mean we have a clubhouse and pool, so and tennis courts, multiple, so I d in that aspect. But I think the what makes logical sense to me is uh what Mr. Anderson mentioned, typically for a clubhouse the the trigger is a hundred a hundred homes in that aspect. [1:51:13, 1:51:33]: because I know by uh living where I live and and Miss Gannon and I live in the same community, Monarch Village, what I mean and I served on the uh H O A board for many years there. I I know what kind of uh cost factor that would be and and if you have a larger community spread across you spread it across everybody. It doesn't make much of a uh that much of an impact on [1:51:33, 1:51:53]: Everybody's monthly or semi-annually type of uh uh billing. So but I think if uh if it's actually really required basically if a hundred hundred homes to have a clubhouse, and I think that's a good standard. There are fifty-nine. So that's it's uh obviously that's under. So I think a cabana should work now, but we need to probably stop this and move up. [1:51:53, 1:52:09]: We got plenty to talk about. So if we have no other conversations uh per se on this, this uh let's get to a point to have a uh a motion and a second and and see what we decide here as a collective group. So it's not I just want to make sure we are amenities. Excuse me. Are there any amenities? [1:52:10, 1:52:26]: Yeah, the amenity is the pool, right? And then there is um the and the playground and then there'll be um connected trail in the subdivision um that'll connect both sides'cause it's split, right, between the creek the creek. [1:52:27, 1:52:46]: Can I say something about the trail? We're willing to do the trail. Uh the material to build the trail will already be on site. It's not really an additional cost for us to build a trail. It's a big bonus for the first five years of the neighbors living there. The negative is that there may be some negative impact through the creek. [1:52:46, 1:53:06]: And I can't guarantee that the bridge gets built because if the whatever you tell me, I don't I don't I we'll pedestrian bridge with something. Yeah, we'll we'll have to do due diligence on on on whether that on that, but we can put it in as a condition. And if the um soil erosion and um all that comes. [1:53:06, 1:53:12]: come back clean, then we could implement it. So we probably need to put a um a what if on that. [1:53:12, 1:53:21]: Okay, well certainly you would interpret that and you would do the due diligence to see whether it was a f it was it could be a um feasible. Yes, sir. Our civil engineer will review it. [1:53:22, 1:53:23]: Okay, what about street lights? [1:53:25, 1:53:43]: Okay. All right. Well, I I think we're there now. So Miss Holiday, you got the first one. We got the street lights in there, the flock camera is already in there. Um we had talked about it. Uh Miss Barber, you didn't weigh in on the clubhouse or the or the cabana, you wanna weigh in before we move forward? [1:53:47, 1:53:50]: You don't you I'm saying you don't have a choice between the clubhouse or the cabana? [1:53:52, 1:53:55]: Huh? [1:53:57, 1:54:00]: I need to know which one to put in there. [1:54:05, 1:54:22]: Okay. All right. We're gonna go with the cabana since it's the consensus of the council. And Mr. Anderson or Miss Holliday, can you read back all the condition the con the additional conditions? The additional conditions that I have would be the five foot sidewalks, the cabana, the um hold on. [1:54:23, 1:54:26]: So then we're going back to the forefront. [1:54:27, 1:54:42]: Homes that are facing highway forty two are gonna be one hundred percent four-sided brick and that's gonna match the remainder of the subdivision. All fronts are going to be stacked stone, stuck all the other 80% stuck stacked stone, stucco or brick. [1:54:42, 1:54:53]: And you're going to have the water tables with three sides going from fifty percent to eighty percent. I don't know that I have anything additional. [1:54:54, 1:54:58]: Well you have the street lights on there and then the [1:54:59, 1:55:04]: And the trail and the tr and the bridge is in there too? The trail and the bridge is in there? [1:55:05, 1:55:15]: Yes, it's it's gonna this it's the the bridge is put Rum Creek is in there. But we're gonna ask you if uh over Wolf Creek. [1:55:16, 1:55:24]: If if it gets civil engineering approval. I thought you had to do some environmental study or something on that. If it gets civil if it get engineering approval. Okay. [1:55:30, 1:55:37]: That's fine. That's in your hands. Yes, that's in there. Okay. You gotta be able to watch it. [1:55:37, 1:55:53]: Showers. Restroom showers. Restroom and showers. Restrooms and showers. You don't have a hybrid. You don't have some kind of hybrid? A hybrid big four. [1:55:53, 1:56:13]: Yeah. I mean it's gonna have to be small. It's only fifty now, so it's small club outside, but something high so I'll send them to you tomorrow. Yeah, I don't want that. I don't want that. Deep real camera script for the just two. Right, we've got [1:56:13, 1:56:15]: Additional question from Ms. Gann. [1:56:16, 1:56:33]: Do you have something hybrid from the Kibana? I mean you know he's talking about just the over cover either open or closed. Good to my closed. I'm looking for something where I wouldn't be in the heat. Me personally. I just uh my thought process was I honestly don't see the need for it. I mean like [1:56:34, 1:56:37]: That's that's me, because I get an opinion like everybody else, right? So [1:56:38, 1:56:50]: Our community is made up of uh 42 houses and they're very similar construction qualities that we've just talked about. I mean there's almost no difference at all. And we have uh cabana and we have a pool. [1:56:51, 1:57:04]: And we have a big grassed area and no playground. So at least we're providing the playground. Um, which is I think there's two items that are required per the standards in this community. So I I would I would be [1:57:05, 1:57:07]: Very grateful if we could just build a cabana. [1:57:07, 1:57:23]: Okay. Well I'm I'm just looking for something a little bit more than just two bathrooms and a covering. That's why I asked. Maybe something with a little small kitchenette area that they can people can store. I mean you're talking about a pool area. So I was looking for like a a a [1:57:25, 1:57:41]: Not necessarily a meeting meeting big meeting room space, but more than just two bath um uh a his and hers, you know. I gotcha. They're pretty big. There'd be like multiple stalls in the bathroom. So there's two stalls in each bathroom and a shower. So it'd be two ladies [1:57:41, 1:57:47]: Two m um a urinal and a commode and a shower on the men's. [1:57:49, 1:57:55]: Oh, at this point I think we Miss Gand more I think uh Mr. Berry, you wanna you think we should get a clubhouse or no? [1:57:57, 1:58:17]: So we we'll require a small clubhouse. I used to live in Brush Arbor. It's in a city of McDonald's on the back side of this community. About five minutes away. We didn't have an indoor one. There's a hundred and fifty lots in that area. [1:58:17, 1:58:20]: And this is the conditions of approval. [1:58:21, 1:58:40]: Uh right. This is the conditions of approval. We want a s out staff, Ryan, you will work with the developer on developing what there is a small enclosed clubhouse with this along with the additional conditions. That that is condition. That is you read the other conditions right, Miss Holliday. That is the motion. [1:58:43, 1:58:53]: Small clubhouses determined appropriate by staff that they can meet in um and the staff will determine that to do the due diligence on what's necessary for fifty-nine homes. [1:58:57, 1:59:01]: You made that's the motion you're making. Yes. And now is there a second to that motion? [1:59:02, 1:59:03]: I second. [1:59:03, 1:59:09]: Ms. Gantt second that motion. Ms. Ryan, before we take vote, you got all that down, sir? Yes, sir. All right. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:59:12, 1:59:21]: Okay. You your agreement? Oh so no. Okay. All right. All righty. [1:59:23, 1:59:43]: All right, uh annexation case AX 2025-01 Council District 5. Consideration of a request for annexation using 100% annexation method of the property of 1448 and 1468 flipping road from unincorporated Henry County into the city limits, stop or city limits. Purpose to allow for a construction. [1:59:43, 2:00:03]: Of mixed residential development with townhomes and single-family detached homes. Property owners at 1448 Flippin' Road, William K. Rickert, and Brenda A. Rickert, property owners of 1468 Flippin' Road, Willard D. Gilbert, Applicant Landlorders of America, LLC, Agent Michael. [2:00:03, 2:00:23]: O'Kenner. The property is located landlots eleven and twelve of District Six contains twenty-one point seven seven seven one acres. And uh it says presented by uh Mr. Ryan Anderson. Then we also have a comprehensive plan amendment KCP dash two zero two five-01. [2:00:23, 2:00:33]: Council District five. Consideration request for a comprehensive plan amendment for a property of one four four eight and one four six eight Flippin' Road. [2:00:34, 2:00:54]: After the property is annexed into Stockbridge City limits, the property currently has a Henry County Future Land Use Designation, a medium density suburban. And the applicant requests that it be assigned to the city of Stockbridge future land use designation, a medium density residential purpose to allow for construction of a mixed residential development. [2:00:54, 2:01:14]: With townhomes and single-family detached homes. Property owners of 1448 Flippin' Road, William K. Rickert and Brenda A. Rickert, property owner of 1468 Flippin' Road, Willard D. Gilreth, applicant Land Buyers of America, LLC, Agent Michael Candor, Cannon. [2:01:14, 2:01:34]: Enter. The property is located landlots 11 and 12 of District 6 and contains 21.771 acres. Okay, and then rezoning case. RZ 2025-01 and Council District 5. Consideration request for rezoning of the property of one. [2:01:34, 2:01:54]: 1448-1468 Flippin' Road after the property is annexed into the Starbury City limits. The property city limits Flippin' Road. Okay, that the property is current Henry County Zoning District of RA Residential Arch architectural or not agricultural, excuse me. And the applicant [2:01:54, 2:02:14]: Requested the property be assigned to the City of Starbury Zoning District PUD Plan Unit Development, purpose to allow for the construction of mixed residential development with townhomes and single-family detached homes. Property owners of 1448 Flippin' Road, William K. Rickert and Brenda A. Rickert, property owner of 1468 Flippin' Road. [2:02:14, 2:02:28]: Willard D. Gilreth, applicant of land um buyers of America LLC, Agent Michael Kender. The property is located in land lots eleven and twelve of District Six and it contains twenty one point seven seven one acres. Mr. Anderson, please. [2:02:28, 2:02:48]: Good evening, Mayor. I'll present these three cases as one for the sake of time. Um it's three cases. Um the first case is as you previously stated, is to annex the property from unincorporated Herring County into the Stockbridge city limits. Uh on this case, the uh staff recommended approval and the planning commission. [2:02:48, 2:02:50]: [7370.4, 7386.0]: On the comp plan to change the property's future land use density from Heron County's residential suburban to the city of Stockbridge medium density residential, there were uh unanimous approval from the planning commission and from staff. Uh and I'll present the rezoning case. [2:03:09, 2:03:20]: Yeah, I'm gonna go fast. Uh here's a joint area photo for both fourteen forty eight and fourteen sixty eight flipping road. The the blue highlights on the area photo is the subject properties in question. [2:03:22, 2:03:26]: Here's a aerial another aerial photo of only fourteen forty eight flipping road. [2:03:28, 2:03:48]: Facts about the property. Um the the two lots is a total combined of twenty-one point seven acres. Uh the property is located on the west side of Flippin' Road, south of Surge Stone Lane and across from St. Ives Court. Currently the property is mostly vacant except for a single family home on each parcel. The current zoning is R.A. in Henry County. [2:03:48, 2:04:01]: and the future land use is Heron County's residential suburban. The proposed development consists of a mixed residential development with 120 townhomes and 31 single family detached units. [2:04:02, 2:04:18]: Uh the surrounding zoning you uh to the north of the subject properties you got suburban residential in the city of Stockbridge. To the west of the property, you got rural agricultural, which is located in unincorporated Henry County. Southwest of the property, you got single family residence. [2:04:20, 2:04:40]: In Henry County, unincorporated Henry County. To the south, you got rural agricultural and multifamily residential, unincorporated Henry County. Southeast of the property, you got a residential duplex, unincorporated Henry County. And to the east of the property, you got suburban residential and plan unit development, city of Stockbridge. Uh the county. [2:04:39, 2:04:43]: County land use designations once again is medium density suburban. [2:04:49, 2:04:55]: Here's the joint future land use map for 1448 and 1468 flipping ro flipping road. [2:04:57, 2:05:17]: Here's this joint zone in map both Henry County and City of Stockbridge combined. Here's the it entails the surrounding zone. You can see that this would not entail a spot zoning because there are similar uses in the area. Here's the boundary survey for both 1448 and 1468 flipping road. Once again, uh there's 316. [2:05:17, 2:05:37]: single is a mixed unit, mixed use development, 31 single family detached and 120 townhomes. The applicant is requesting zon rezoning the PUD. All units will have three bedrooms, two baths, and two car garages. The homes would have a size, a proposed size, between sixteen hundred to two thousand square feet with [2:05:37, 2:05:57]: Brick and hearted board facades. Proposed amenities, a pool with a clubhouse, a golf put in green, a tot lot, tennis or pickleball court, and a community sports field. Uh site plans. Two site plans were submitted, one colored and one black and white. Annexation and rezon and the title of the site plan was annexation and rezoning. [2:05:57, 2:06:00]: Plan for Hanover Park, prepare it for land buyers of America GA. [2:06:03, 2:06:23]: uh the site access of this proposed development. Um it will have access uh off a main boulevard off flipping road and in second access the short distance to the north. East east each access will have a deceleration lane. An internal street would encircle the site with a cross street near the center. Entrance along Flippin' Road [2:06:23, 2:06:43]: Behind the main project entrance will contain a clubhouse, a mail kiosk, and a parking lot with 15 spaces. The site interior will feature a pudding green, a top lot, 100%. [2:06:43, 2:07:03]: Or a pickleball court and a community sports field. The perimeter of the part of the property will contain a 25-foot-wide buffer. The home locations, the single-family detached homes, will be located along the outskirts of the site on the northern and western sides, while the townhomes will be located within the it interior of the site. Along the southern side, [2:07:03, 2:07:13]: of the site and near the cross street. Surge Stone Lane borders the property to the north. One large lot for a single family detached home will be located adjacent to the project entrance. [2:07:14, 2:07:34]: Setbacks would be 20 feet in the front yard, five feet in the in the side yards for single family lot, and zero in the side yard for townhome lots, and 20 feet in the rear yards for all lots. These setbacks are not required by the PU dist PUD districts, but they are proposed. PUD is a tailor, uh, is a district that is tailored. [2:07:34, 2:07:54]: Tailored and site plan can be conceptualized. And if the council votes to approve this, more than likely this will be adopted and based on the site plan and be conditioned on the site plan. And the distance between each townhome building is 20 feet. The parking, the applicant will provide four parking spaces for each of the proposed 151 residential units. [2:07:54, 2:07:57]: And there will be fifteen guest parking. [2:08:01, 2:08:03]: Here's a uh colored site plan. [2:08:07, 2:08:11]: Here's a color color site plan enlarged. You can see the light layouts. [2:08:14, 2:08:16]: There's a black and white side plan. Um [2:08:18, 2:08:27]: Here's the site plan overlaid on an area photo. It's most you can see the most of the wooded area, and this is the site plan intertwined into that. [2:08:34, 2:08:37]: So for the sake of time I'll just get to the staff's recommendation. Um [2:08:50, 2:09:10]: Okay. Staff's final conclusions. The proposed mixed use development would be well suited to the site, and the site plan would represent an attractive design with an ample number and variety of amenities. The the provision of two accesses into the site will be beneficial for fire and emergency vehicle, and it would reduce congestion at the project end. [2:09:10, 2:09:23]: Interests. The proposed amount of open space would exceed the amount that would be required. The proposed density setbacks and distance requirements between town home buildings are reasonable. Staff recommend approval. [2:09:25, 2:09:45]: With several conditions. Um condition number one, the probo the proposed mixed residential development shall be constructed according to a site plan, which is similar to the two companion site plan, which are titled Annexation and Rezoning Plan for Hanover Park prepared by L Land Buyers of America, LLC by Elite Engineer. [2:09:44, 2:10:04]: Project number is 24040 and it was dated 430, 2025. The site plan shall serve as the proposed developments PUD master plan. Project interests. We're asking that they have deceleration lanes and a 10-foot-wide sidewalk shall be provided along flipping road. [2:10:04, 2:10:24]: Further, if security gates are installed, flock cameras shall also be provided. Architectural design: the proposed home shall be constructed with styles and exterior materials which comply with the UDC standards. Property maintenance. An HOA or a property management company shall maintain all of the common areas of the [2:10:24, 2:10:27]: property in the common areas of the town homes. [2:10:28, 2:10:31]: So that's the um report. [2:10:32, 2:10:52]: Mayor. Yes, sir. You got some comments, sir? Yeah, a couple of things is that certainly uh we want a traffic signal there at that location. Okay. So that the traffic signal would line up uniformly with the same eyes, and then they would do everything possible to work with Henry County or the state to get that. Okay. Obviously we can't guarantee [2:10:52, 2:11:12]: that but certainly we want that to be a condition that staff would work diligently to have a signal there which would assist the residents because right now residents are having trouble getting out there. If there was a street light there that lined up to be a four-way, it certainly would uh allow them to do that. [2:11:12, 2:11:32]: specifically. Um this neighborhood here was uh brought forth and certainly uh the what you will see in the presentation and the discussions that we've had with the uh developer and with the community at large to see what the desire was. Uh there's all two car garages here. Uh certainly [2:11:32, 2:11:52]: we want to make sure that we had agreement that we would have uh the uh units would be three-size brick uh structures uh on them and that they would um and that we would uh want to make sure that we did that to be in keeping with what the products that we're seeing in the area. [2:11:52, 2:12:12]: area and a a nicer townhome that was 1800 square foot or or above uh for this particular development to make sure that it moved forward uh in in accordance with um excellence in every way because this includes uh some of the three-story townhomes [2:12:11, 2:12:31]: uh as well uh as a product that has not been kind of dirt from the area. So uh those that there's a lot of components here that were included and what you will see is uh what I've seen in the development that it's excellence and uh hopefully uh that it'll be reflected in the in the renderings and the presentation that you will see. [2:12:31, 2:12:37]: and especially the putting green and the amenities for the area are absolutely top-notch. Thanks. [2:12:38, 2:12:56]: Well, first of all, I mean that's fine. He can come up, that's fine. Any other initial questions for Ryan uh before we developer? Go right, please. I'm gonna yield and wait. Okay. All right. So be it. [2:12:57, 2:12:58]: I'm sorry, sir. [2:13:03, 2:13:23]: Good afternoon. Good afternoon, Mayor, Council, staff, and uh public. My name is Jonathan Jones. I'm with Elite Engineering and I represent land buyers of America for the proposed annexation and rezoning of approximately twenty-two acres to uh be brought into the city of Stockbridge. Um we know that one of the primary concerns for this development is the traffic and transportation. [2:13:23, 2:13:25]: transportation that's that's that's in this area. [2:13:26, 2:13:46]: We have already um ordered and in the process with a traffic engineer A and R to do a traffic study. Um Planning Commission requested that. We ordered it. They're not completed with it. It takes a little bit of time and you're not allowed to do counts when school's not out. So if we presented a traffic study when school's out, it wouldn't be representative of the real world. So [2:13:46, 2:14:02]: So we already have that in the works. We are proposing a parkway style entrance with two lanes in, two lanes out at the main intersection, which will parallel and be directly across from St. Ives. We want a traffic light as well. [2:14:03, 2:14:06]: We're putting in a left turn lane and deceleration lanes. [2:14:07, 2:14:11]: Um we hope that the traffic study and it should [2:14:11, 2:14:12]: Want [2:14:12, 2:14:13]: A [2:14:13, 2:14:33]: light at this location and ultimately it'll be Henry County DOT that will provide us approval to do so. But it is our desire and we want a traffic light just as much as the city would like to have one. As mentioned, we are proposing what we consider uh an amenity uh [2:14:33, 2:14:36]: that is resort style. Um [2:14:37, 2:14:41]: It's gonna have uh a minimum two thousand square foot clubhouse. [2:14:41, 2:14:46]: with a facade that will match or mirror uh uh much of the product within the community. [2:14:47, 2:14:49]: We're proposing four pickleballs. [2:14:49, 2:14:53]: A large putt putt green since St. Ives is across the road. [2:14:53, 2:14:54]: A large pool. [2:14:55, 2:14:58]: An open playing field that's centralized to the community. [2:14:58, 2:15:14]: We are providing greater than twenty percent of the open space, which is more than this required. We're providing a centralized mail kiosk so that when the people get home from work they can grab their mail conveniently and go to their homes rather than it be in the back or the side or whatever. [2:15:14, 2:15:17]: We're providing the required buffers all the way around the community. [2:15:18, 2:15:28]: Um our intent is to have two different detention ponds. One will be on the northwest and one will be on the northeast, discharging into the existing storm and creek systems. [2:15:28, 2:15:48]: Um planning commission discussed and recommended or asked about a perimeter fence. We would like to voluntarily stipulate a perimeter fence to go along with the perimeter buffer, both for the security of our residents and to improve the community to a higher standard. Um [2:15:48, 2:16:03]: We are going to do flock cameras at both entrances that hopefully can be tied into both your police department and Henry County's police department to help with any crime in the area and or uh violations that that are occurring. Um [2:16:04, 2:16:16]: We are proposing or or we are in agreement with a ten foot sidewalk across the entire frontage of the community and then five foot sidewalks on both sides of the interior of their community. [2:16:17, 2:16:20]: Um making sure I'm not missing anything. [2:16:22, 2:16:30]: One thing that I did want to uh mention is that the square footage of the homes, we intend to increase that square footage over what has been presented. [2:16:31, 2:16:49]: We will do a minimum of 2,400 square foot for your single family homes, and we'll do a minimum of 1,800 square foot for your town homes. All homes will be a minimum of three bedroom, but there'll be four bedrooms mixed throughout the community. Staff has recommended approval. Planning Commission recommended a unanimous approval. [2:16:50, 2:16:51]: And at this time I would [2:16:52, 2:16:55]: Like to show you the remainder of the presentation. [2:16:55, 2:17:01]: This shows uh the the product that we intend to to build from a single family standpoint. [2:17:02, 2:17:04]: Once again there's the site plan. [2:17:06, 2:17:08]: That's another version of site plan. [2:17:08, 2:17:12]: This is just redefining what we plan to do for the amenity itself, which [2:17:13, 2:17:20]: Just so you guys know, we're estimating this amenity to be somewhere between$850 and$900,000. So it is a resort style amenity. [2:17:21, 2:17:27]: Um the town homes we would like to do is a more modern look. Um it's something that [2:17:27, 2:17:40]: We feel price point wise is going to uh increase the values of the homes in this area. And it's a product that quite honestly pops marketability wise. It's what people want right now. [2:17:40, 2:17:47]: We also have uh another product where we have brick on the outsides and a mixture of hardy plank on the interiors. [2:17:47, 2:17:52]: As previously mentioned, all homes and town homes will have two car minimum. [2:17:54, 2:18:02]: And that is the conclusion of my presentation. I'll be happy to answer any questions you might have or I'll use the remainder of my time for rebuttal if necessary. [2:18:04, 2:18:05]: Questions, Councilman? [2:18:06, 2:18:26]: I I appreciate the presentation. Certainly I and um the one thing that I want to talk about is as was mentioned previously that we were able to add the single family detached homes and the neighborhoods adjacent to this will not be backing up to town homes, they will be backing up to single [2:18:26, 2:18:32]: Yes sir. And I apologize for not mentioning that. Yes, sir. One of the things that [2:18:33, 2:18:53]: We intentionally try to do is is safeguard and pro and provide buffer for the people to the north and to the west, um, because they are single family homes or agricultural uses. So um my presentation's large, I shouldn't have closed it, and I apologize for that. Um but we have um thirty-one s uh single family homes that will be along the north and western property. Um [2:18:53, 2:19:13]: And uh a a buffer along both those areas. So uh our intent is to not put a town home next to a single family home. I wouldn't want that, you wouldn't want that, and so we intentionally avoided that. Um in any home that is visible from flipping road, we agree to do four side brick. Okay, stand by. [2:19:12, 2:19:25]: A second. You want you want your presentation back up, sir? Um yeah. If you can't get Demetrius, can you help him get this on? Do I no? It's on here, yeah. I I I clicked it, but I think it's too big. It's [2:19:25, 2:19:26]: It's trying to open. [2:19:29, 2:19:35]: You get some assistance. There we go. Okay. I'll go back to the site plan so that I can [2:19:49, 2:19:51]: Next time I'll leave it up. [2:19:51, 2:19:54]: Sorry about that guys. I apologize for that. [2:20:06, 2:20:08]: Okay. So [2:20:09, 2:20:10]: Units [2:20:15, 2:20:21]: It's a little slow, isn't it? Come on, we got better fiber down here, man. What's up? [2:20:22, 2:20:42]: So units forty-two, which is the last unit on the west side, all the way around to unit seventy-one, those are all proposed to be single family. Um they abut uh about six or eight homes to the north, and then to the west is a an estate with um couple family residents. Um and so [2:20:42, 2:20:59]: Our intent was to not provide uh not produce any, you know, or or limit the negative impact by anything done by this property or community. So we did single families all the way around the perimeter to try to help safeguard that situation, along with some additional open space and buffers. Um so [2:21:01, 2:21:07]: I'll be happy to. Right. And as you said, the houses that are facing um Flip and Row would be a hundred percent brick. [2:21:07, 2:21:22]: Yes, sir. Anything that is visible. So we we don't have a lot of visibility to flip and road. Lot one would be a four-sided brick. That'll probably be the model home, to be frank with you. Um and then 71, 72, and two. [2:21:23, 2:21:43]: We would we would brick those so that the facades match and and only thing you can see from Flippin' Road would be brick facades. You would you would you right everything on the sides as we done with the other neighborhoods would be visible. Any home visible from Flippin' Road would be full-sided brick. Right. And then the town homes is the same thing as we were well the town homes. [2:21:43, 2:21:47]: themselves are gonna be three sides brick the the three [2:21:47, 2:21:50]: Ді інтенфере таунхом з тобі. [2:21:50, 2:21:53]: The product that is similar to this product. [2:21:54, 2:22:14]: And or the best product where we're going to be able to do that. There will be a four computer and then you brick the outside. Yeah. That's correct. That's correct. The interiors may have a a mixture of right, right, right. But but the from from the all standpoint there will be on the end points. Yes, the end caps. That is correct. Yeah. A hundred percent. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Thank you. Yes sir. [2:22:14, 2:22:16]: Ms. Barber Goya, please. [2:22:19, 2:22:31]: So um I like the designs of the three story townhomes. It's just that my district is saturated with townhomes, so I'm a little hesitant. [2:22:31, 2:22:39]: Understand. So Yeah, and th these will be a mix of two and three. And what what we're finding is is when you mix them. [2:22:39, 2:22:49]: It makes the product pop. I mean if you've got a two-story and then a three-story and a three-story and a two-story, it just gives it so much three-dimensional appeal. And frankly, [2:22:49, 2:22:58]: Marketability-wise, they sell really good. Um, the end caps typically sell first, and whatever the three-story is sells next, and that's just how it goes. So [2:22:58, 2:23:09]: Um, so I know during the presentation from our community development director, he mentioned if security gates are installed. [2:23:10, 2:23:15]: Flock cameras would be required. So So flock cameras f flock cameras are mandatory. [2:23:16, 2:23:20]: Thank you. I just wanted to make sure that was clear. [2:23:20, 2:23:24]: Yeah, they are so but they're man mandatory according to new standards. [2:23:25, 2:23:35]: Um so my other question regarding the two entrances. You mentioned about the red light being installed. [2:23:35, 2:23:39]: I'm curious to know where that red light. [2:23:39, 2:23:44]: If you can't get it, you can't. [2:23:45, 2:23:46]: Um [2:23:46, 2:23:48]: Our parkway entrance. So [2:23:48, 2:23:55]: Uh let me see if I can it it would be where my cursor is. Here's St. Ives coming out. Mm-hmm. And then we have a parkway style. [2:23:56, 2:24:12]: So we would end up installing and building a left turn lane here into our community. And at that location right there where we connect with St. Ives, at that location, it would be a signalized intersection if Henry County agrees with our warrant study. [2:24:13, 2:24:14]: Um and I'm [2:24:14, 2:24:17]: fairly certain that warrant study's gonna come back saying that a signal's needed. [2:24:19, 2:24:20]: Okay. [2:24:21, 2:24:26]: So there are two entrancy entrants to this Y yes, ma'am. [2:24:26, 2:24:41]: Can you show me where the other is? Yes, ma'am. The other one is just to the north. It's really just in case there was some sort of catastrophe or some reason that this entrance is blocked. There's a opportunity for the residents to enter and exit to the north. It is a ride in, right out. [2:24:41, 2:25:01]: Because you can't have two full entrances within a 660-foot spacing. So it meets the requirement for a ride-in, ride out, and that's what we're proposing at that location. Any additional entrances to the south would impact the creek negatively. So we tried to avoid as much we could the impact to that stream that's at that location. [2:25:01, 2:25:13]: There's currently an existing pipe that catches the water and then takes it across over towards the golf course. So we'd intend to install a pipe system that'll connect to theirs and just carry that water as it's always went. [2:25:14, 2:25:15]: Okay. Yes, ma'am. [2:25:15, 2:25:20]: One other question I have and I did speak with [2:25:21, 2:25:32]: The young lady yesterday. Um just curious. So the backside of this proposed development. [2:25:32, 2:25:38]: Is there not opportunities to extend a road? I'm just trying to figure out [2:25:38, 2:25:42]: another access point other than Flippin' Road. [2:25:42, 2:25:46]: I gotcha. Where we might in the future or perhaps with this [2:25:47, 2:26:07]: Development. To be honest with you, the only physical option would be to try to connect to the neighborhood to the north, which I don't think they would appreciate. And if you look, it's fairly hard to tell, but we do not physically touch their right-of-way. So it would require their approval, it would require y'all's approval. [2:26:06, 2:26:17]: And we would end up having to purchase some property to make that access. Um, that's why we opted to go with two along our frontage because it's a more direct and and [2:26:17, 2:26:33]: in and out and that that quite honestly would in my opinion be a negative impact to that community. I wouldn't want these residents coming out through my neighborhood. I get that they're gonna come out beside my neighborhood, but that's just my opinion. To the west is is a really large estate. [2:26:33, 2:26:37]: Um I think there's two or three very large homes on that property. [2:26:37, 2:26:42]: I doubt very seriously they want us to connect to'em. And to the south there's one single family home. [2:26:43, 2:26:43]: Um [2:26:44, 2:26:47]: These people I think used to be [2:26:47, 2:26:53]: either family members or friends because there was some property trading which created this little nook of land. [2:26:54, 2:27:11]: Since then, these people I do not think have any relationship with the sellers of the property that we're looking to do business with. So unfortunately, I'm fearful that those two entrances are probably the best options that we have. Um, if staff [2:27:12, 2:27:23]: wants us to entertain other options, we do not mind it. We have evaluated it and realistically coming through that neighborhood might be the only option and I don't think that's quite honestly a very good option. [2:27:24, 2:27:24]: Yeah. [2:27:25, 2:27:26]: Uh yes, sir. Go ahead, please. [2:27:27, 2:27:45]: One more the one more condition. I wasn't finished. I wasn't. Okay. One more question. So I wanted to um thank you. Yes, ma'am. Thank you for that. I wanted to ask, um, can you decrease the amount of town homes and increase the amount of single family homes? [2:27:46, 2:27:53]: So quite honestly, when we when we started this project, it was it was all townhomes until we met with staff in the community. [2:27:54, 2:27:55]: And [2:27:55, 2:28:02]: We reduced it from one hundred and seventy one units to one hundred and sixty three units to one hundred and fifty nine units to one hundred and fifty one units. And [2:28:04, 2:28:05]: At this point. [2:28:05, 2:28:06]: Unfortunately [2:28:07, 2:28:09]: In order to make the [2:28:09, 2:28:11]: Deal work financially. [2:28:11, 2:28:15]: This is the number of units with that style of an amenity. [2:28:15, 2:28:35]: Um, now can we eliminate some amenity and reduce? We could, but I don't think that's a I don't think that's a win win for the community. And my developer prefers to spend the money on this amenity to lure his people there till they buy quality homes in a community where you do not have to leave to go elsewhere. You can [2:28:35, 2:28:36]: Mm. [2:28:36, 2:28:44]: Work out there, you can swim there, you can bike there, you can putt-putt, you can do whatever you want there and not have to exit. So [2:28:44, 2:28:59]: You know, that that was the idea about it. We tried to create some open space pockets on the interior so that each resident is not walking out the back door looking at somebody else's back door. So we feel like we've [2:29:00, 2:29:03]: adjusted the density as best we can considering [2:29:04, 2:29:16]: what the topography, the creek and the the options we had to us to to to to try to make work. So it has been reduced quite a bit, uh over over twenty units already. [2:29:17, 2:29:21]: Um so the single family homes. [2:29:21, 2:29:27]: What's the square foot? Minimum twenty four hundred square foot. Twenty four hundred. Yes, ma'am. [2:29:27, 2:29:47]: Thank you. That's all I have. Yes, ma'am. Thank you, ma'am. I miss out. Go ahead, please. Yeah, certainly. And uh they go up to twenty the square footy starts at twenty four hundred and goes up to uh yes, sir. That's correct. Minimum twenty four hundred. Yes, sir. They'll most likely be in that twenty eight hundred to three thousand easily. Three thousand. Let's try to go ahead and yeah, I'm certain they will. Yeah, and I and certainly in discussion. [2:29:47, 2:30:07]: With your team, I think you know there was some cons con uh some concern about the traffic issues. We know we can't make the decisions on traffic, but I think what was said was that uh there was could be a condition added that no one would move in before the Western parallel connector was [2:30:07, 2:30:27]: actually finished and it'll be finished next year uh by November. So if you start your ca pre construction, go through the zoning process and all of that, nobody would actually be moving into the neighborhood until like December or of twenty twenty seven or something. I mean of of uh of twenty twenty six or January [2:30:27, 2:30:47]: 2026. Fourth quarter 26, most likely, first quarter 27. If the project stays on track, it should we should be three to five months after it's open. So we feel confident of that. If that's a stipulation and that needs to be placed by council, we would accept that. Right, because what that does is that when the when the Western Parallel Connector opens, what's going to [2:30:47, 2:31:07]: Going to happen is that traffic, a lot of that traffic that's you know, will be able to take go directly from Hudson Bridge Road down to Joe Jodico Road, down to Jonesboro Road, and then the county is already extending Flippin' Road down to Jonesboro Road. They're extending also they're reopening Dutch. [2:31:07, 2:31:27]: So infrastructure projects are happening all over the place in order for us to make sure that we're dealing with the traffic. But that would must have to be a condition that at that point, so everybody would be comfortable that nothing's gonna happen intimate. I mean uh imminent that the late 2026, early 2027, when the parallel [2:31:27, 2:31:47]: Connector opens. That is correct. And AR, who is our traffic engineer, already met with Henry County DOT and they made them abreast of all of the projects and the timing. And we've already laid the groundwork that we really want a signal at this location. They said we really want a signal at this location too. Now whether that's going to happen, [2:31:47, 2:32:05]: happen or not, that's that's what we what we are hoping for, intending to do and want. Yeah, I think we can talk with the commissioner in that area. I think we can pretty much typically pull the air. Thank you. Final problem. [2:32:06, 2:32:12]: You have any questions, sir? Anybody else? Okay, so this is this is a this is a public hearing. So [2:32:13, 2:32:23]: This is a public hearing, so I'm gonna open this up. Uh so any comments for this project in my far left? Any any comments for the project in my far in the middle? [2:32:24, 2:32:26]: A far right. Any comments. Come on up, ma'am. [2:32:27, 2:32:30]: This is comments for the project, right? Comments comments for. [2:32:30, 2:32:32]: Positive comment four. [2:32:32, 2:32:35]: Okay. And name and n sure, name and address, please. [2:32:35, 2:32:55]: Okay, my my name is Monica Howard and I live at thirty-seven seventy-eight Highway one fifty-five North Stockbridge, Georgia. Okay. Okay. And please understand I have high anxiety public speaking, so don't start that clock yet until I explain. [2:32:55, 2:33:02]: Explain to y'all, I am here to I represent the sellers, but I work with the buyers. So [2:33:04, 2:33:19]: I typed up everything, I made notes tonight, listening to everything. So tell me when you're ready to start. Take your time. Go ahead and read. Okay. Good evening council members and thank you for allowing me to speak this evening. [2:33:20, 2:33:40]: I would first like to introduce myself. My name is Monica Howard and I have lived in Henry County for 35 plus years. My husband and I bought our first and only home in Stockbridge. My husband also attended Stockbridge High School from 1974 to 1979 when he graduated. [2:33:40, 2:33:55]: Our daughters also graduated from Union Grove in 2011 and 13. I'm telling you this because I hope it will give me merit and credence to what I have to say. I represent the sellers and the sell of these two properties. [2:33:57, 2:33:58]: I would like to speak [2:33:59, 2:34:06]: A bit about them. William and Brenda Reichert owned fourteen forty eight Flippin' Road. [2:34:07, 2:34:09]: They built their home in nineteen eighty three. [2:34:10, 2:34:13]: They are longtime members of this community. [2:34:13, 2:34:16]: The Rikers are in need of selling their home. [2:34:16, 2:34:27]: Several years ago, and this is truly true, you can I'll verify it for you, mister Riker had a horrible accident that resulted in him having a severe brain injury injury. [2:34:27, 2:34:34]: Um it resulted in him having two operations. Mr. Rikert is now seventy eight years old. [2:34:35, 2:34:38]: And cannot even begin to care. [2:34:39, 2:34:43]: And take care of the home and land. Actually, I didn't even put this in my notes. [2:34:45, 2:35:01]: But Brenda, the wife, cannot really take care of me. He's kind of staying with relatives within five miles of there. I hate to interrupt before I say, just to make sure. The green light is on. Is it green look down at the mic. Is the green light on? Yes, ma'am. Okay. Yes, sir. It is on. Okay. Yes. All right, go ahead, please. [2:35:01, 2:35:03]: He is completely disabled. [2:35:03, 2:35:07]: misses Rikert is seventy one years old and cannot take care of the home and the land. [2:35:09, 2:35:29]: Oh oh okay, thank you. Sorry. Um, is seventy one years old and cannot take care of the home and the land. The property at fourteen sixty eight is the estate of Willard Gilreth. Mr Gilreth and his wife passed away a few years ago. Their daughter, Michelle Jones, is the executor of their estate. [2:35:29, 2:35:29]: Mm-hmm. [2:35:30, 2:35:43]: Mrs. Jones has been a longtime school teacher in the Henry County School System. She started in nineteen ninety-four and is currently at Hampton Elementary and Rocky Creek. [2:35:44, 2:35:47]: elementary teaching English to [2:35:47, 2:35:57]: non English students. misses Jones also needs to sell this house and land. She would like to finish probating and close the estate. [2:35:57, 2:36:01]: Council members, this property has been listed for sale for two years. [2:36:01, 2:36:03]: Е, на кен ашурію. [2:36:03, 2:36:04]: There are really [2:36:04, 2:36:06]: Not any buyers out there. [2:36:07, 2:36:09]: Wanting to live on acreage in that area. [2:36:10, 2:36:30]: People looking for acreage are more looking in the rural areas. I know I have been a realtor in this county for twenty-five years. Not a real estate agent, I'm a realtor. The only viable resolution is to sell to a builder or developer. Upon approaching and I approach the [2:36:30, 2:36:38]: The builders and developers. I explained in great thousand that this property would have to be built into a community that would offer. [2:36:39, 2:36:42]: People moving to the county that wanted to move to the county. [2:36:43, 2:36:58]: with amenities, open spaces, activities, garage parking, etcetera. I did not want to waste my sellers or any potential buyers' time by trying to rezone and build cheaply built housing with no [2:36:59, 2:37:00]: Little to no amenities. [2:37:01, 2:37:21]: I believe this buyer has met the request. This community will have two entries and exits. There's a beautiful pool and a large clubhouse. There will be four pickleball courts, open spaces, families to enjoy and kids to play. There's a pudding green, which is ideal since there is a golf course right there. [2:37:20, 2:37:39]: Perhaps even in a membership deal could be worked out with the community HOA and the golf course, and I would be glad to have that, you know, it's part of Eagles Landing. There are sidewalks and plenty of listing or lighting. This community meets the standards of the area. [2:37:39, 2:37:55]: The buyer has agreed to all of the stipulations requested by the planning committee, first and foremost to do a traffic count and to try to get the county DOT to install traffic light at the new entrance [2:37:55, 2:38:15]: And exactly across from Sound I St. Ives. This would benefit the people living in both communities and help with the flow of traffic. Who knows? Perhaps at some point, and I've mentioned this to a couple of the commissioners, at some point, who knows that from I-75 to Hudson Bridge. [2:38:15, 2:38:35]: Could eventually be double laned, and there is room for that. I've checked, I look at everything on those. But as soon as you come on there, it could be double-laned. I'm asking that you please approve the request made this evening. My clients, and I'm speaking for the sellers, my clients deserve the right. [2:38:35, 2:38:55]: Right to sell their properties and move forward in their lives. One of these properties is already vacant, and the other one soon could be. This only encourages vandalism and illegal activities, which is not wanted. Think about this, which is not wanted. Okay? Just a few. [2:38:55, 2:38:57]: Doors down at fifteen ten. [2:38:59, 2:39:01]: At fifteen ten flippin road. [2:39:06, 2:39:26]: Well go ahead ma'am. I'm sorry. Um just down a few doors at 1510 Flippin' Road. The house there burned down a few years ago. It did. The entrance has been blocked off, but people still get in there. I know, I've walked the land. There is garbage. [2:39:26, 2:39:40]: Garbage, abandoned cars, and drug paraphernalia. And I will be glad to escort y'all on any of that to show you the land. My clients do not want this to happen to their property. Please, please, I am asking you [2:39:41, 2:39:45]: To approve these requests that are being made this evening. This beautiful community. [2:39:46, 2:39:46]: That they are [2:39:47, 2:40:00]: initiating will only appeal to the city of Stockbridge. Thank you for your time, but I again am a thirty five year resident of this county and I'm not speaking just as a realtor. [2:40:01, 2:40:20]: I am watching this county grow and I'm encouraging it. But I want it to grow in a positive manner because we're we're one of the top counties growing in the entire country. Okay, and I don't know if y'all look at your numbers and you know that, but I'm a very serious realtor. [2:40:20, 2:40:22]: And what comes in [2:40:22, 2:40:42]: to the community has to be attractive because people are moving from other areas, but they want to move to a place that has got everything they I don't know, you know the Italian oven. Bobby owns that. It's it's an it's a small establishment, but it's home owned. But everybody knows it. Um seraphino's [2:40:42, 2:41:02]: Gad owns that but is a single establishment, but he knows all the residents, especially in the Eagles Landing community. Um Gerard runs the Outback. People get to go and know people here, okay? Um and this this is the community. [2:41:02, 2:41:20]: I I live in this area. I support this area. And I'm asking y'all to really consider this. I did not solicit any D.R. Horton people or cookie cutter people because this this community, this area [2:41:21, 2:41:41]: I wouldn't accept it, so I wouldn't expect y'all to accept it. We really feel you. We really do. We we we really feel you and we we we got ya. We we definitely feel your sentiment as a thirty-four year resident. Thirty five thirty-five year resident. You've seen a lot and you your perspective really adds a lot to the conversation. So we really [2:41:41, 2:42:01]: Thank you, Councilman Alexander. And I apologize, but I'll let y'all go. But just thank you for taking time. Appreciate you. Are there any other comments for from go ahead, man? Go ahead. No, you're fine. Please have a seat. Please have a seat. Are there any comments for this development on this side, my far right side? Any comments against this development? [2:42:01, 2:42:04]: [9724.5, 9735.1]: My far left. Any comments against. Okay, that public hearing piece will be closed out. Uh any other questions, counsel, did you may have for Mr. Addison or the uh developer here? [2:42:16, 2:42:18]: If not. [2:42:18, 2:42:38]: I'd like to go ahead and make a motion. I gotta read it first, sir. Hold on a second. All right. Annexation case AX two zero two five-01 Council District 5. Consideration and request of an annexation using 100% annexation method of the property at 1448 or 1468 Flippin' Road. [2:42:38, 2:42:58]: from unincorporated Henry County into the Stockbridge City limits. Purpose to allow for the construction of mixed residential development within townhomes and single family detached homes. Property owners of 1448 Flippin' Road, William K. Rickert, and Brenda A. Rickert, property owner of 1468 Flippin' Road, Willard D. Gilrith. [2:42:58, 2:43:15]: Applicant land buyers of America LLC Agent Michael Canner. The property is located at Land Lots eleven and twelve of District Six and contains twenty one point seven seven one acres. All right. Uh council, I need a motion uh to for this annexation, please. [2:43:15, 2:43:17]: Just a second. [2:43:18, 2:43:18]: That's it. [2:43:18, 2:43:27]: All fair, please indicate. Mayor Ford, I do have one question though. The traffic signal, is that a condition, a requirement for this project? [2:43:27, 2:43:37]: Yeah, but we can't but we don't have control over the traffic signal. Uh Henry County uh DOT will have to review the s the results of the study from the traffic study to see if it's warranted. [2:43:39, 2:43:40]: But I mean, [2:43:40, 2:43:48]: Yeah, yeah, and here in Canada we'll make a determination on whether it meets the threshold for a traffic light. [2:43:48, 2:44:08]: But the study is already yeah, it's done. They're waiting on the results from uh um Henry County to make a decision. But that's not something I'd like to make it one, but this this is the annexation, so it's not the time for that. Oh, but certainly I'd like to be one I I would like it to be one to say that's our goal. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yes, sir. Yeah. Once again the motion has been made to say [2:44:08, 2:44:13]: Second and all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [2:44:14, 2:44:34]: Comprehensive Plan Amendment K CP 2025-01, Council District 5. Consideration request for a comprehensive plan amendment for property at 1448 and 1468 Flippin' Road. After the property has been annexed into Starbury City limits, the property currently has a Henry County Future Land Use Designation, a minimum minimum density surplus. [2:44:33, 2:44:47]: Suburbering. An applicant requests that it be assigned to the city of Stoppery's future land use designation medium density residential, purpose to allow for construction of mixed residential development within townhomes and single-family detached homes. [2:44:48, 2:45:08]: Property owners of 1448 Flippin' Road, William K. Rickard, and Brenda A. Rickard, property owner of 1468 Flippin' Road, Willard D. Gilrith. Applicant Land Buyers of America LLC, Agent Michael Canner. The property is located at Land Lots 11 and 12 of District 6, and it contains 21.771 acres. Council I need a motion to [2:45:08, 2:45:09]: Fourth, please. [2:45:10, 2:45:11]: Some move. Is there a second? [2:45:12, 2:45:21]: So this is the con this is the This is the plan amendment. Comprehensive plan amendment. Comprehensive plan amendment. Second. Okay, for Ms. Gantton, Mr. Alzheimer's offer to present okay. Now it's decision. Okay. [2:45:23, 2:45:33]: Thank you for that. Rezoning case RZ two zero two five-01 Council District 5. Consideration request for rezoning of the property of 1448 or 1 f and 1468. [2:45:34, 2:45:38]: Flipping roll after the property's been annexed in the style city limits. The property current [2:45:38, 2:45:58]: Property's current Henry County Zoning District is RA Residential Agricultural, and the applicant requests that the property be assigned to the City of Stopbury Zoning District PUD Plan Unit Development. Purpose to allow for the construction of a mixed residential development with townhomes and single-family detached homes. Property owners of 1448 Flippin' Road and [2:45:58, 2:46:18]: William K. Rickard and Brenda A. Rickard, property owners of 1468 Flippin' Road, William D. Gilrith. Applicant Land Buyers of America LLC, Agent Michael Canner. Property is located in land lots 11 and 12 of District 6 and contains 21.771 acres. Council, I need a motion for this as well, please. Mayor, I need the conditions to be [2:46:18, 2:46:27]: be read. Um I want to read those into the record. Uh the additional conditions that were added and uh yeah. [2:46:27, 2:46:47]: Yeah. Go ahead, Mr. Addison. I I was saying um it's best that we have the applicant s submit a um a future um another site plan in the future with the zoning conditions located on the front page of the site plan with all the conditions we have. So he will need to submit a new site plan. Is there a time limit for that? [2:46:47, 2:47:05]: Um before w before this could be executed, he w he would need to submit a new site plan. And needs to be part of the motion and uh yes sir, because uh on all PUD zoning um is conditioned automatically on the site plan. So the current site plan doesn't reflect all the changes that council is proposing. [2:47:05, 2:47:25]: Okay. So Ms. Alison, you willing to do that? Yes, certainly that would be appropriate to make sure that every last one of these in here. So I want to make sure that the clerk or you read the um additional language that was added, especially the brick and all of that that was added. Uh and then we have the ten foot multi use path along Flippin' Road and then [2:47:25, 2:47:29]: And the additional requirement now is the street lights too, right? [2:47:44, 2:47:56]: Right, all the five foot d right, that's that's that is that Yes, uh we we have that as condition number two in the staff report. Uh deceleration lanes and a ten foot wide sidewalk shall be provided along flipping road. [2:47:58, 2:48:01]: Sir, and then could the um could the uh applicant come back up? [2:48:06, 2:48:26]: Yes, that's gonna be one of the conditions that we're gonna endeavor with the traffic study and everything to encourage and take every step possible to get that traffic light. If they say no, I don't think they're going to because we're gonna talk to the county and try to make that happen. We certainly want that to be one of the conditions uh to go along with this along with the street lights. [2:48:26, 2:48:33]: But see I'm gonna be so forward thinking that we're gonna get this street light. [2:48:34, 2:48:54]: I want to be so forward thinking as to say we're going to get this street light. And when you get the street light, I don't want any wooden poles up there. We want the black mass post arm signals and the black um crosswalks. Now we're doing that down at the flippin' road development. So when the strict the signal is proposed, we don't want wooden poles. [2:48:54, 2:49:02]: And wires. We want the black metal mass post arm signals and then the black crosswalk indicators there, too. [2:49:02, 2:49:17]: We are on board a hundred percent as long as Henry County allows that product. We we would rather it be the highest product available too. We're doing a million dollar amenity. We want to do the best too, yes sir. Absolutely, Miss Holliday. That'll be another condition. [2:49:17, 2:49:18]: Yes, ma'am. [2:49:28, 2:49:34]: the w the well there'll be metals the the there will be metal. Yeah. As well and that will match the black mass post on signal. [2:49:35, 2:49:55]: think they call it black ornamental street uh lights is what they along the two foot we're amenable to that we want to put the best in there too. All right thank you. Yes sir. Uh the the applicant says that he can submit or resubmit a new site plan on by tomorrow with all his own conditions on the front page. Okay. Well let's go fantastic. So the condition um [2:49:55, 2:49:58]: Upon the applicant resubmitting a new site plan with the zoning conditions on. [2:50:00, 2:50:05]: That would be okay. With all that, then Mr. Avazan, are you ready to make a motion? Yes, so moved. Okay, is there a second? [2:50:05, 2:50:12]: My second. All right, all in favor, please indicate. It's announced decision. Thank you very much. Outstanding. Look forward for this uh coming to our community. [2:50:13, 2:50:14]: New business. [2:50:15, 2:50:35]: Ordinance of two amend the requirements for the issuance of occupational tax certificates, business licenses citywide. Consideration of new Title IX, Chapter 1, Section 260 A and B to be added to Stockbridge Code of Ordinances to repeal and replace the existing section. The Henry County Tax Assessors Office requested uh that at the city that the city create [2:50:35, 2:50:51]: this new ordinance to prevent businesses from receiving an occupational tax certificate, business license or regulatory license if they have not first paid their Annalorum taxes or personal property taxes. It says uh you Mr. Ryan, but I see we got the ladies up to do this. [2:50:52, 2:50:56]: Business services staff. Okay, all right. In this special. [2:50:57, 2:51:17]: Nice seeing you guys too. Good evening, Mayor and Council. Good evening. So um back in I wanna say it was late April, early May, um the tax commissioner, Michael Harris, decided to get all four cities along with the county so that we can do some topics. [2:51:17, 2:51:37]: type of um parallel things together. And one of those things that they wanted to do was one of the things that we're bringing to you tonight. Now unfortunately I wasn't at the meeting because I was on vacation, but Stephanie was at the meeting, and that is to add um 9.01 for occupational tax. [2:51:37, 2:51:41]: And so what the county is trying to do, how do I move this? [2:51:41, 2:52:01]: What they want to do is make a requirement that any new business that I'm sorry, existing business that is um already here, if they owe personal property tax to the county, that we wouldn't give them the upcoming year occupational tax. One of the things that they did bring. [2:52:01, 2:52:21]: To our attention is that there's over$353,000 that is owed in personal property tax, and about 10% of that would come to the city. So what they want to do moving forward is to get all four cities to join them in the effort to make sure that these businesses pay the [2:52:21, 2:52:41]: Their personal property tax. And if they don't pay their personal property tax, then we would not give them their occupational tax at that time to try to encourage them to also pay their personal property tax to the county. And I just want to stress from both Lynn and Cal. [2:52:41, 2:52:58]: Kathy from the county, they're going to send these documents to us once a week to let us know who hasn't paid. And there is about ten percent of that that do come to us on an annual basis. Okay. Okay. [2:52:59, 2:53:00]: All right, so questions, council? [2:53:00, 2:53:02]: Mayor. Yes, Mayor. [2:53:02, 2:53:15]: I uh uh there's no question. I think it's tip for a tap. So I would like to make a motion um to approve this ordinance to amend the requirements for issuance of occupational uh certif certificates and business license. [2:53:15, 2:53:21]: Consideration of the new Title Nine, Chapter O one, Section two sixty A and B. [2:53:22, 2:53:35]: To be added to the stop breach code of ordinances to repel and replace the existing section. Second, Mr Berry from Gantter Berry, all favor, please indicate unnounced decision. Thank you, ladies. Thank you so much. All right. Fantastic. [2:53:36, 2:53:56]: Ordinance to amend chapter 5.6 cemetery section 5.6.070 cemetery regulations. City of Starbury Cemetery and City City Burke Cemetery to add section A. Interments and Disinterments prohibited on a specific city of Starbury Cemetery Department holidays and any holidays slash closure observed by the city of Starbury. [2:53:55, 2:53:57]: Miss Holliday, please. [2:53:57, 2:54:17]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. This is an ordinance um change where if we're going to change the cemetery section five point one six point zero seven oh. We are going to add el where we will list the holidays and closings for the city of Stockbridge and there will be no interments or disinterments on those days. [2:54:17, 2:54:21]: Good deal. Okay. Questions, council. Mayor. Yes, ma'am. [2:54:21, 2:54:41]: I'd like to make a motion to approve this ordinance to amend chapter five point one six cemetery section five point one six um zero seven zero cemetery regulation city of Stockbridge Cemetery and City Burke Cemetery to add section A interments of disinterments prohibited on specified city Stockbridge Cemetery Department holidays. [2:54:41, 2:54:46]: Ms. Berry seconded again from Ms. Ganttham. Ms. Berry, all in favor, please indicate. Unanimous season. Thank you. [2:54:47, 2:54:48]: Thank you. [2:54:48, 2:55:08]: Uh council consideration approved contract renewal invitation to bid ITB number sixteen RFP one zero one two six excuse one excuse me R16 RFP one zero one two one six DDR American Tank Maintenance LLC Full Service Tank Maintenance Program in [2:55:08, 2:55:28]: Amount of 100 uh 61,419 dollars. Funding is sources from the water department budgeted funds. Ms. Darren, please. Yes, Ms. Mayor and Council. The city is required by the federal EPA and the Georgia EPD to have a uh water tank maintenance program and agreement. And so we're coming before you tonight to ask you to approve. [2:55:28, 2:55:48]: The renewal of our agreement with United with American Tank Maintenance LLC. They have been a great partner with the city. In fact, they saved us over$10,000 last week. The lightning struck our collector for our AMI metering system, and a vendor wanted$10,000 to get up and uh remove it so we can. [2:55:48, 2:56:05]: replace it and they were here to service our water tank and they went up and did it as part of their their maintenance with us. So we we enjoy the relationship we have with them. They've been great service to us and we want to go ahead and ask mayor and council to allow us to renew this contract. [2:56:05, 2:56:07]: Okay, great. Questions, Council? [2:56:07, 2:56:27]: Um so it's been placed out for bid in prior or is it So this uh when I first got here we there are two companies in Georgia, United Tank Maintenance, which is headquartered in Perry. American Tank Maintenance is former employees of United Tank Maintenance that started their own company. So it's only two companies. Okay, this will be the [2:56:27, 2:56:30]: the fourth renewal and a six year contract that we have. [2:56:31, 2:56:51]: Right, thank you. Mayor? Yes, ma'am. Um, I'd like to appro make a motion to approve council's consideration of the contract renewal to bid ITB number sixteen RFP one zero one two one six DRR, American Tank Maintenance LLC for full service tank maintenance program in the amount of sixty one thousand four hundred and nineteen dollars. [2:56:51, 2:56:51]: [10612.0, 10620.8]: Only a second. Sir. Mr. Alexander second that from Gamda Alexander Armfair please indicate the announced decision. Thank you very much. [2:57:01, 2:57:18]: Okay. And now we have Council consideration to approve the renewal of a landscape maintenance services contract with Yellowstone Landscape and amount of three hundred fifty thousand dollars. Funding sourced from the government building department empathy eight or budgeted funds. Ms. Aaron, please. [2:57:19, 2:57:39]: Yes, Ms. Mayor. Uh Public Works is coming before you tonight to ask for you to approve the fourth and final renewal with Yellowstone Landscape. Staff already has developed the scope of services to build out this project, this uh project prior to this uh expiration date. They have been a great partner as well with the City of Stockbridge. They [2:57:39, 2:57:58]: maintained the city hall, the municipal courts, the police department amphitheater, Merrill Manness Conference Center, the Main Street Office, and the Public Works Administrative Building. The current option expires on September 30th, 2025, and we're asking that you approve the renewal of this agreement. It's coming from budgeted funds. [2:57:59, 2:58:02]: Okay. Council questions? Yes. Yes. Go ahead please. [2:58:04, 2:58:07]: So this contract amount is three hundred thousand. [2:58:08, 2:58:28]: Is this three hundred and fifty thousand that you have at the bottom of this sheet? That's just the budgeted amount. Yes, ma'am. Thank you. Uh motion to approve, sir. Sir second. Second. Mr. From Mr. Let me let me ask you, I I I don't wanna slow things up, but I'm gonna throw something in here. The area like in the downtown in the alleyway and the stuff like that. [2:58:28, 2:58:40]: Your guys are doing that or who's doing that? Yes. Certainly we need some attention. How about Berk Street on that Burke Street area? Can we get some more intensity on that? Yes. If not add it to this. [2:58:40, 2:58:41]: Motions but [2:58:42, 2:58:52]: Motion's been made by Miss Barber, seconded by Mr Berry. What is this, sir? You gonna get your first presentation here to us now? Isn't this special? Excuse me, sir. Even with this? [2:58:52, 2:58:58]: Um, I request this item be deferred to the Nate's council meeting to take a look at this, please. [2:58:58, 2:58:59]: Oh wow. [2:59:00, 2:59:07]: Okay. I will rescind my vote, sir. All right. Defer this item to the next council meeting. [2:59:07, 2:59:18]: All right. Thank you. So be it. Wasn't inspecting that, but okay. We'll just table it. We gotta vote the table though, right? Right. Well, uh yes. Okay. Well I I motion to table this item. Second. [2:59:18, 2:59:20]: Okay, all fair presentation? [2:59:21, 2:59:41]: Outstanding. It's been tabled. Okay. Council discussion for approval of the uh ordinance to amend the Stockbridge Municipal Code, section three point three zero point two two two two. Approval of contracts and section of three point three zero uh point two two three B. Uh city manager authority returning uh to inspect. [2:59:41, 2:59:48]: Spending contracting authority to twenty five dollars without the city council approval. Okay, for discussion purposes. [2:59:49, 2:59:53]: Well I just wondered about those. It's discussing purposes. [3:00:00, 3:00:05]: Go ahead. I thought you all said you were going to remove this item from the agenda. [3:00:06, 3:00:10]: This is f fifteen. I I have item number fifteen. This discussion. [3:00:10, 3:00:20]: Well we can move it from the agenda. Our motion to remove it would allow the city manager to continue with the same a motion to a pr motion to remove this from the agenda. [3:00:20, 3:00:23]: Okay. Is there a second to that motion? [3:00:23, 3:00:26]: Ms. Barber Segment, all in favor pleasing the cake. [3:00:27, 3:00:30]: I abstain for now. Well I have a uh question. [3:00:30, 3:00:33]: I thought we were going to discuss it's just a discussion. [3:00:34, 3:00:36]: But my concern is [3:00:37, 3:00:37]: Well [3:00:37, 3:00:42]: We can go we can table it. We can bring it back up, but I thought we were gonna at least discuss it. [3:00:43, 3:00:45]: 'Cause I thought we were expanding it for [3:00:45, 3:00:48]: It in the past we expanded it for a reason. [3:00:48, 3:01:08]: So I think it's something that we wanted to revisit, but we can we can table it. It's late. Well we can always bring it back at any time'cause it's it's fifty thousand right now. And certainly um I think our new city manager will come in and do some evaluations before he starts spending. But I would like him to have that limit so that we can catch up for the lost time. Yeah. [3:01:08, 3:01:11]: Well my concern is [3:01:11, 3:01:22]: I kinda wanna look at what other cities cap is first. So we can wait. I I wanna know what the other what what is going on around us. I just I think that we need to [3:01:23, 3:01:28]: I think that we expend I forgot the reason why we increased our cap. [3:01:28, 3:01:36]: But I want to consider reducing it because uh we just I I feel like we need to right now. But uh we can talk about that later. [3:01:36, 3:01:44]: So motion was made by Miss Barber. If I may. I'm sorry. Sorry. I just if I may. Go ahead. I just the unbudgeted spending. [3:01:45, 3:01:46]: Don't need to start. [3:01:47, 3:01:48]: Well there's nothing. [3:01:48, 3:01:50]: If it is not budgeted [3:01:51, 3:02:11]: regardless of if there is the city manager spending authorization to make the purchase or expenditure, we should not do it. I just want it to stop with all of the unbudgeted spending that is out of control. That's all. Right. [3:02:11, 3:02:15]: That's really what I wanted to address. [3:02:19, 3:02:21]: April was was fifteen. [3:02:24, 3:02:39]: Okay, we motion motion to table number fifteen. Can I yes for a revision on that table? Who tabled it? Well Miss B Ms Barber motion to table. Motion to remove it. Well we already talked about it. A motion to remove it. [3:02:40, 3:03:00]: Motion is second. Well, can I make a suggestion on the table? What we're gonna we removed it from the agenda so we can move on. We can bring it back. Hold on folks. It was hold on. It was it was a motion was made to table it. Mr. Elizabeth and you miss Barber and then to Mr. Alexander and you you second that and then you went to discussion. [3:03:00, 3:03:03]: But uh what it amounts to is that the motion's still on the floor. To table it. [3:03:04, 3:03:13]: Can I can I add to the discussion? The I c I can agree to the tabling. Uh I can agree to the tabling, but can we task staff or someone [3:03:13, 3:03:15]: Um to um [3:03:15, 3:03:30]: I don't know, HR, whoever, to look at surrounding area cap limits. I mean the the maximum spending limit limits. So we can do kind of like a little bit of feasibility study on what that is surrounding us with same size city. [3:03:31, 3:03:48]: Or similar sizes. I I just want a comparison. D you know what I'm saying? We can revisit it later, but we need to look at similar cities of our size and find out what that what that maximum amount is before it has to come in front of mayor and council. [3:03:48, 3:03:55]: Certainly. And we amend it to say that we're tabling and we want this back in thirty days. [3:03:55, 3:03:56]: I agree with it. [3:03:56, 3:03:59]: Okay. [3:04:00, 3:04:03]: Um I'm sorry? [3:04:03, 3:04:05]: That's fine. Okay. [3:04:06, 3:04:19]: Well you that was the you made the initial motion. Did you want that any motion? You m you made the initial motion you you made the initial motion. I'll tell you there was no vote, so you were able to discuss what was this. [3:04:20, 3:04:24]: So we need a total motion. [3:04:25, 3:04:45]: All right. And and bring Black Body 11 to August meeting. Tell me what I so the motion is is tasking staff to go back and compare similar cities of our size and bring that back in thirty days as to what the spend the city management spending authority is for complicated cities. Correct. Some move. Sir Sir. [3:04:45, 3:05:05]: second mr mr mr uh very second all fair please indicate all right all right we'll move on and and mr sean um uh what's your last name mr edmondson mr edmondson is nothing on you it's just we've had some financial things going on right now so we want to make sure that we are comparable [3:05:05, 3:05:06]: Throughout the right. [3:05:07, 3:05:11]: and make sure that we compare it with other cities. That's all we're doing. I'll fill you in later. [3:05:12, 3:05:32]: Council consideration on on uh of all non-budgeted non-essential services and expenses ceases immediately with all expenditures with or without contractual obligations greater than ten thousand dollars and must be uh presented to the governing body for consideration for approval. This includes events and concerts. Now this is a discussion point as [3:05:32, 3:05:52]: Mayor. Yes, sir. Let me just say uh initially I endeavored to uh with the consensus that I was seeking that it would be a narrow consensus that we would limit spending on new concerts that weren't published to the public. That was my intention. [3:05:52, 3:06:12]: intent. Now I know there was some other crosstalk in terms of how we were gonna do things, but that was the intent was to continue to um be physically responsible with the concerts that had already been pr published for the public, but to not and there not enter into any more expenses without uh [3:06:12, 3:06:32]: Um the uh doing the due diligence and making sure that the budget was there. Mr. Melaz have been working on the numbers to see what actually works for us in terms of being uh where we are. And I'm gonna be straight up. I'm gonna be honest and I'm gonna say some things here. People might not might make some people feel uncomfortable, but it's the truth. [3:06:33, 3:06:36]: The two point six million dollar spending limit at the amphitheater was too low. [3:06:38, 3:06:58]: It was too low. Now it makes it look like we spent a whole lot of money over the budget. But the original budget in when we first started was for two concerts and it was for two million dollars. We've been having ten concerts. One year we had fifteen. And then what really happened is we had fifteen concerts and we had the same budget, right? [3:06:57, 3:07:17]: That really made no sense for us to have the same budget for having 13 or 14 concerts as we did for the other. Now, as we do, and I'm gonna be cautious and walk some of that you all through that and understanding that we're looking to make sure that every dime is accounted for uh at the amphitheater in every in uh in [3:07:17, 3:07:21]: In every aspect, but make no mistake about it. [3:07:21, 3:07:41]: We're serious about what we're doing in making sure that the facility is sound. And as we always say at every concert, this building will be paid off next month twenty-two point five million dollars. Make no mistake, the city of Stockbridge is not going broke. I keep hearing this misnomer that [3:07:41, 3:08:01]: That the city has no money. Now, I'm gonna say some things that are really true that are right now that I want Mr. Edmondson to hear because I want him to hit the ground running with that$17 million that we have in T SPLOS and that$21 million that we have in SPLOSS 5. I want those projects to move forward and [3:08:01, 3:08:21]: And then we just started collecting money for a new spLOS, SPLOS 6, that'll add another$60 million. But we need somebody to come in proactively and take the bull by the horns and make things happen in this city because we got a number of projects. I can't tell you how many times I've been chewed out by the downtown department. [3:08:21, 3:08:41]: Development authority because the alleyway project is not moving forward. The alleyway project was voted on by this board for us to be able to move forward with it as a priority because downtown was a priority. So certainly I want to make sure that that happens. But the discussion, I wanted a narrow discussion that we would. [3:08:41, 3:09:01]: Would talk about non-published concerts for the amphitheater would not uh be supported until we got what we needed and to look at the financial aspects from uh the treasurer, and that information has been forthcoming to us, but not to limit spending uh in a way to uh ten thousand dollars. That was [3:09:01, 3:09:06]: not my desire. I know that may have been some of the other desire on the council, but that was not my desire. Thank you. [3:09:07, 3:09:08]: Well, go ahead, please. [3:09:10, 3:09:16]: So one of my concerns is for budgeted items. If it's budgeted [3:09:17, 3:09:20]: That means it has a maximum spend amount. [3:09:20, 3:09:27]: I just don't want the city manager to use his spending authority to add addition to the budget amount. [3:09:28, 3:09:31]: That is what has been done in the past. [3:09:32, 3:09:34]: Like with the back to school event. [3:09:34, 3:09:39]: If the budgeted amount is ten thousand dollars, that's it. [3:09:39, 3:09:42]: Not another penny over. [3:09:42, 3:09:44]: If I can Mr. Malazi. [3:09:45, 3:09:46]: He wants to speak. [3:09:51, 3:09:52]: Welcome, sir. [3:09:53, 3:10:00]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Non spending here doesn't matter whether you see [3:10:00, 3:10:06]: Ten dollars, twenty dollars, you see, three hundred, five hundred. It's not supposed to be. [3:10:07, 3:10:24]: Even five thousand is not supposed to be. It's we are supposed to spend what has been budgeted, what has been allocated. The amount is not important. Somehow in the departments, because we are on the department level, you may have one line [3:10:25, 3:10:29]: have has overspent the other lines okay, but total of the budget. [3:10:29, 3:10:32]: You can't spend what you have not been allocated. [3:10:32, 3:10:49]: So the amount is different regardless of where we are spending. Before we spend, we have to make sure we have transferred money where it is, or we have allocated if it will require a council to allocate, because you are the only authority that can allocate. [3:10:50, 3:11:10]: No one can allocate. You allocate, then we spend. But if it's to transfer from one fund, we don't have enough in another fund. We have to come before you before we spend. That's what it is. We have just come out of it from DOJ that they spend the suspended. [3:11:09, 3:11:24]: some of our info because we have been having this year after year spending without budgeting. So that one DOJ has created us. There's no problem with that. It has been created. [3:11:25, 3:11:34]: So we don't have to continue of uh spending something that we did not budget. If it is not in the budget, it doesn't exist. [3:11:35, 3:11:36]: Thank you. [3:11:36, 3:11:37]: Okay. [3:11:38, 3:11:41]: Okay, this is part of discussion. Any other other discussion point? [3:11:42, 3:11:50]: Just real quick about the budget. A budget is just that. I and I I can agree with Councilman Alexander. Um [3:11:51, 3:12:11]: I want people uh for some reason um to know and I do think that at some point we will speak on um certain concerns, but what what I what I do want people to know is a budget is a projection and it's based off of what took place the year before. [3:12:11, 3:12:13]: And the budget [3:12:13, 3:12:33]: For example, for the amphitheater has never been accurate. The budgets to me for the Merrill Mandaris hasn't been accurate on what it takes. And some things are capital projects for the community and some things are are projects what and what we learn is that we have growth and we have more demands. And so the budget expands. [3:12:33, 3:12:35]: Based off of a need. [3:12:35, 3:12:37]: І ти зната край. [3:12:37, 3:12:50]: when you need to when you're when n I'm not saying you wanna go over budget. I'm not gonna, you know, sweep do that. I'm not saying that. But what I wanna describe it as is [3:12:51, 3:13:09]: It's a m roadmap based off of your previous expenditures from the year before. It also shows your growth. So if you budgeted before for something or for a project, but now you have an additional five thousand people in population and you need to budget [3:13:09, 3:13:29]: even more or an event has grown or you know you're utilizing the facilities more or you have to hire more employees because you need more employees to do the job because you have more growth, whether it's business or commercial growth or whether it's um uh residential growth. [3:13:29, 3:13:49]: A budget is simply a roadmap. And sometimes people go over budget. And when they do go over budget, they have to come to the mayor and council to have that budget amended. That's the proper process. If it is if it's to go over budget and we need [3:13:49, 3:14:09]: More money for something, or we need to expand for a purpose and reason, then it needs to come before counsel. That's the proper process. But it's not a criminal matter. It's not a, oh my God, you, I'm not gonna try to downplay it. Now it can be to the extreme. [3:14:09, 3:14:28]: That could be crazy, but what I'm saying trying to get a point across is for educational purposes, is it's a roadmap based off of previous expenditures. And so sometimes when you have new projects, you're trying to figure out what that budget is going to be. [3:14:29, 3:14:36]: And so I want people to just realize that that a lot of times some budgets are work in progress. [3:14:36, 3:14:40]: Ms. Alzan, go ahead, please. Yeah, Ms. Malaysia, come back up here real quick. [3:14:40, 3:14:56]: See, I uh the one thing that I want you to do and I want you to do tonight, I want you to put a misnomer. You know, the speaker of you earlier alluded to that that was thirty two million dollars and I've heard that s binded about numerous times. He even called your name. [3:14:57, 3:15:00]: There's no thirty two million dollars missing in the city. [3:15:01, 3:15:03]: So what happened is [3:15:04, 3:15:06]: We were spending money. [3:15:07, 3:15:09]: But we didn't put in the budget. Right. [3:15:09, 3:15:16]: So what we did was to correct something that we spent on, something that was not done, to say in this fund [3:15:16, 3:15:18]: We spend so much. [3:15:19, 3:15:29]: We under budgeted, we are supposed to be here. We over budgeted, we reduced. So we put it general fund. This is what we budgeted. This is what would have a [3:15:29, 3:15:32]: budget amendment you are talking about. That's what we did. [3:15:32, 3:15:34]: To make it correct. [3:15:34, 3:15:43]: So we budgeted the 41 million, but in actual sense there was upper funds that we use. We were just spending, but we never budgeted. [3:15:43, 3:15:53]: There were some um s plus. We were spending but we didn't budget. But it wasn't brought to Mayor and Council either. It was never brought it before the council. Okay. [3:15:53, 3:15:58]: And uh as you correctly say that uh at times you [3:15:58, 3:16:06]: have more revenue that have come in than you projected. You have to have that revenue allocate so that you can have uh [3:16:06, 3:16:06]: Um [3:16:07, 3:16:12]: Expenses. At times the opposite happens. Revenue go down. [3:16:12, 3:16:32]: You have expenses, you have to reduce expenses so that we are always in balance. And the only authority that can do that is the council. So it was not coming before the council, but we spent that money. So the money is not missing. No, there's no missing of money. But we are making it right. [3:16:32, 3:16:46]: Right, because what was being done was being done by management and staff without counsel. There was no budget amendment at the end of the fiscal year. So this is what we did in 2024. We have finished. [3:16:46, 3:16:48]: But we spent these monies [3:16:48, 3:16:50]: Without their counsel. [3:16:50, 3:16:53]: We did interrogate, so that's what we did. [3:16:53, 3:17:13]: So in essence it was mismanagement. Mismanagement, yes. So moving forward, we need to make sure that we have systems in place that will prevent mismanagement. We budgeted so much revenue, we have gotten more. [3:17:13, 3:17:33]: More than we thought we will increase. So mid-year we have budget amendment. If up to December something has happened, we'll bring you budget amendment. If nothing happens, no matter what, end of the fiscal year, there must be budget amendment. And it's important for staff to support this council and support the work. [3:17:33, 3:17:39]: of the taxpayers a city of Stockbridge as well. And so moving forward, people need to understand as well, the council does not [3:17:40, 3:18:00]: Physically touch funds or move funds or allocate funds. That is not a council job duty, a job function. Those are job duties of the staff. However, it is our responsibility to oversee that. And we can only oversee what we are given and reported upon. So the fidelity, the integrity, [3:18:00, 3:18:11]: integrity, the truth bearing and the and the good f you know, work of the of the staff is are prerequisite for us to move forward and do this work the right way. [3:18:11, 3:18:31]: So the thirty two million that they are talking about is the the difference between what was budgeted and what was acted on that was not presented to council to work on it or to approve it. So the expenditures were there, but they were not approved by council. So what we did was to [3:18:31, 3:18:43]: to say all these funds were attached and this is where it would have been, only to find out that what was actually presented to council was much, much less forty one million, but entirely [3:18:43, 3:18:53]: we spent those um funds that actually they were revenues and expenses. So there was no money of thirty two million that went missing. [3:18:53, 3:18:55]: Yeah. [3:18:55, 3:18:56]: To be clear. [3:18:57, 3:19:11]: The documents that mayor and council did receive because we received paperwork. We received we had to approve a budget at the end of the year. We received reports. Um have you looked at some of those previous reports that we received? [3:19:11, 3:19:12]: In the past. [3:19:13, 3:19:18]: I have and I have communicated it to you. And are those documents accurate? [3:19:19, 3:19:23]: No. They were not accurate. That's it. So the documents that we received [3:19:23, 3:19:27]: looked as if we were on budget. Is that not correct? [3:19:27, 3:19:33]: That is correct. That's where my uh talking was we let you down. [3:19:33, 3:19:53]: Yes. I didn't know. I did mention that and I'm saying today again we let you down, hopefully, from now going forward. Well no, you didn't let us down. We did. You weren't here. I am part of the thing. I appreciate that you're saying we let you down. But what I what the concern is is that the hooplaws and the hollers have been that we [3:19:53, 3:20:13]: We receive as if we we did not receive any documentation and we should have. We received documentation. We received reports. What you received we are not correct. Right. We received reported reports. We received bud budgets. We received spreadsheets, and the numbers were increased. [3:20:13, 3:20:32]: Incorrect, but the numbers appeared to be what we thought were good numbers, correct? That is true. All right, thank you. That's it, Mayor. Yes, ma'am. So one of the concerns that I've expressed over the last two years at the end of each year. [3:20:32, 3:20:39]: when the proposed budget for the upcoming year is has been presented to us. [3:20:39, 3:20:41]: The actuals [3:20:42, 3:20:44]: The actuals for the current year [3:20:45, 3:20:46]: We're all incomplete. [3:20:48, 3:20:52]: I made those points every single year. [3:20:53, 3:21:00]: Asking staff what is the period in which the actuals are being re reported to us? [3:21:02, 3:21:03]: They would just say mid year. [3:21:04, 3:21:05]: July or August. [3:21:07, 3:21:08]: And [3:21:08, 3:21:09]: It was approved. [3:21:09, 3:21:10]: I didn't approve it. [3:21:11, 3:21:14]: Because I want to see true actuals. [3:21:15, 3:21:17]: At least through the end of the third quarter. [3:21:18, 3:21:23]: But it looked as though they cut off the reporting, the actual reporting of the current year. [3:21:24, 3:21:25]: Mid year [3:21:26, 3:21:29]: not to reflect the full year of the concert seasons. [3:21:30, 3:21:33]: That's what I was looking for, specifically. [3:21:35, 3:21:37]: You all have known just as I've known. [3:21:38, 3:21:42]: Two million dollars is not enough to cover the operations of the amphitheater. [3:21:42, 3:21:44]: For a full concert season. [3:21:45, 3:21:50]: We have the responsibility of making sure that we have accurate information. [3:21:51, 3:21:54]: To justify the budget that we're approving. [3:21:55, 3:21:58]: Incomplete actuals for the current year. [3:21:58, 3:22:01]: We should not be approving the budget that way. [3:22:02, 3:22:05]: We need to hold staff accountable going forward. [3:22:06, 3:22:07]: And I will be. [3:22:07, 3:22:09]: Mr. Malazzi has done a great job. [3:22:10, 3:22:13]: He has to accept ac accountability. [3:22:13, 3:22:13]: Four. [3:22:15, 3:22:17]: [12137.5, 12140.3]: and previous staff members. [3:22:20, 3:22:23]: I'm just hopeful going forward we will have the [3:22:24, 3:22:27]: controls and checks and balances in place. [3:22:27, 3:22:32]: It's just that this council we us [3:22:32, 3:22:34]: We just gotta make sure that we're not [3:22:35, 3:22:36]: Overzealous [3:22:37, 3:22:46]: In spending more than what is budgeted. I know there's a lot of ideas and projects that I'd like to see happen. [3:22:47, 3:22:51]: That thirty-two million dollars that we that were mismanaged. [3:22:52, 3:22:53]: I think about the rock [3:22:54, 3:22:56]: The Rock Query Road extension. [3:22:56, 3:22:57]: Project. [3:22:57, 3:22:58]: That could have happened. [3:23:00, 3:23:01]: Can't do it now. [3:23:02, 3:23:08]: I'm thinking about a whole lot of projects that I would like see like to see in my district alone. [3:23:09, 3:23:18]: All the projects that I could have had done with those thirty-two million dollars had they been managed better. [3:23:19, 3:23:22]: So when I abstain from voting on certain issues. [3:23:23, 3:23:26]: It is because I recognize that [3:23:27, 3:23:29]: Some processes appear to be broken. [3:23:31, 3:23:35]: I call it out when I see it, but I can't be the only one who's calling it out. [3:23:36, 3:23:41]: We need to hold staff accountable and I intend on doing that going forward. Thank you. [3:23:42, 3:24:02]: All right. Everybody's had everybody's good? And I would just say that uh really don't have any further comments because everything's already been said. So on that note, the discussion portion is has ended and we'll move on to an uh announcements and upcoming meetings and events. And uh council meetings will be held in city council chamber meeting, dates and location and times of summer. [3:24:02, 3:24:22]: Subject to change and or contact City Hall offices 770-389-7900 or to visit the website at www.stopbridgega.org for updates. The planning commission meeting is Thursday, July 17th, 630 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers. Actually, a note here says actually it's council now though. [3:24:21, 3:24:28]: on that no on that note. So it's not they're gonna council that for the seventeenth, which is just uh couple of days. [3:24:28, 3:24:48]: Ethics Committee meeting Wednesday, July 23rd at 6 30 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers. A joint public meeting will be held on Tuesday, uh, July 29th at 11 a.m. to formally discuss project priorities and funding allocations under the proposed uh floating op local option sales tax floss program. That'll be at the uh Henry County Administrative Building. [3:24:48, 3:24:54]: located 140 North Henry Boulevard, excuse me, 140 Henry Parkway in Madonna. [3:24:54, 3:25:14]: The City Council work session meeting is last uh last Tuesday of each month, is July twenty ninth, six p.m. in the City Hall Council Chambers. Upcoming city events and uh and initiatives. Food show tasty Tuesday is happening in Clark Park, 5 30, 8 p.m. You join us for great food and uh lots of fun. We missed that tonight since we're in a meeting. [3:25:14, 3:25:34]: Uh join me uh Main Street uh for the tiny tent join the main street uh for the tiny tent concert series Fridays is six p.m. to eight p.m. at Stockbridge Connection Center, 130 ML King Senior Heritage Trail, bring your own lawn chairs and of course I'll have it provided the weather's permitting. And join Mayor Pro Tem Gantt for a free line dancing club. [3:25:34, 3:25:54]: Classes on Wednesday, July 16th and July 30th from 6 p.m. to 8 p.m. at the Merrill Man's Conference Center. Bring your own fan. And y'all be slapping the fans around, don't you? Okay. Okay. Join Calcman Thomas and Calcman Berry in the partnership for the monthly Bingo Bash on Wednesday, July 16th from 10 a.m. to 12 a.m. [3:25:54, 3:26:14]: at the Mermanus Conference Center. Lots of fun to be had by all. And that's actually tomorrow. Join Mayor Anthony Ford for the monthly meet the mayor on Monday, July 28th from 10 a.m. to tw to noon the City Hall. The meetings will be by appointment. The Economic Development Department hosts a free business health clinic on the second Thursday of each month from 9 a.m. to 12 noon. [3:26:14, 3:26:34]: Stockbridge Connection Center 130 ML King Heritage Senior Heritage Senior Trail. Check the for the healthier businesses for the free clinic. Councilman Thomas is always honoring the veterans and continues to salute to you all year long. Please send your pictures and veterans and names, branch, rank, and years of service. [3:26:34, 3:26:41]: Join Captain Thomas for Don't Trash Stockbridge Initiatives centered around education, highlighting the cause and effects of littering and illegal dumping. [3:26:42, 3:27:02]: Sign up for real-time alerts about the weather, severe weather, road closures, and emergencies on the regroup app. Visit the city's website or social media pages for more information on how to how and where to sign up. Stay safe. Please contact Rosland Ross to schedule an appointment to meet the mayor for more information and count on Council. [3:27:02, 3:27:22]: Initiatives is six seven eight eight three three three three four eight by way of email ross at starbridge G A dot or G. Twenty-four uh uh twenty twenty-five council season still goes on, so uh go to Stockbridge AMP dot com and see what's happening with the Amber Theater in the rest of the season. And uh on that note, uh [3:27:21, 3:27:29]: Um my comments for tonight. Of course, since it's uh we probably all missed the all-star game all-star game, which is right in downtown Atlanta. [3:27:29, 3:27:49]: Maybe it's still going on if you want to go check it out. If you're not you know watching it. I'm sorry? Cobb County. Cobb County. Oh sorry I said downtown, didn't I say downtown? Used to be downtown. Right, Cobb County. Anyway, so uh so otherwise um since uh since it's been awfully hot this summer, make sure you when you're outside, you hydrate, drink a lot of water, exercise if you can and stay. [3:27:49, 3:28:09]: Stay healthy. And of course, prepare yourselves for adults and kids and grandparents prepare yourselves for going back to school here sometime next month. And on that note, we have an executive session, ladies and gentlemen, for legal personnel, real estate. And I've been informed now for our execular session. [3:28:09, 3:28:25]: we have to add cyber security. All right, so so legal, personnel, real estate, and cyber security. And so I need a motion to go to the second session. So moved. Is there a second? Mr. Berry second that all fair please indicate. We'll be back in a little while, ladies and gentlemen. [3:28:35, 3:28:40]: We go early in the morning, they have food and sauce. [3:29:12, 3:29:32]: Council, I need a motion to end our executive. So move. Is there a second? Second. Uh from Alexander to uh Mr. Berry, all favor say uh indicate. It's announced decision. Now I need a motion to reconvene our city council meeting. So move. Second. Okay, from Mr. Alexander to Mr. Berry. All in favor, please indicate. [3:29:32, 3:29:33]: Okay. [3:29:33, 3:29:50]: Okay. We do not have any uh oh yes we do. We have something we need to yes we I just we have something that we need to mention uh that came out of our second session, please. Who is that who's gonna mention that? Um I'd like to make a motion to approve a salary increase for the city treasurer. Second. [3:29:50, 3:30:10]: All right, uh from Miss Barber to Mr. Berry, all in favor, please indicate. All right. Now I need a motion, congratulations to the treasurer. And now I need a motion to uh end our city council meeting. So uh Mr. Berry, give me a second, somebody. Second. It's okay. Second to Mr. Alexander. All favor, please indicate. Congratulations. [3:30:10, 3:30:13]: God bless you, good night.

--- title: City Council Special Called Meeting date: 2025-07-01 source: 2025-07-01_City_Council_Special_Called_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:12, 0:00:13]: No, I'll save it. [0:00:17, 0:00:25]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to start our special call meeting. Uh this is uh Tuesday, July first, and I have actually five twenty-four. [0:00:26, 0:00:28]: Uh please stand for invocation. [0:00:29, 0:00:43]: If you can. Lord, thank you for bringing us together once again to do the city's business. Allow us to make good logical decisions and be able to move our city forward with in this aspect as well. Be as always, Lord, in your name. Amen. Pledge allegiance. [0:00:43, 0:00:54]: Place to the fire of the United States of America to the Republic for which stands One Nation, one God, indivisible liberty and justice for all. [0:00:56, 0:00:58]: Madam Clerk, Rocall, please. [0:00:58, 0:01:02]: Good evening. Mayor Ford. Present. Mayor Pro Tem Gantt. [0:01:04, 0:01:05]: And it's not an attendant. [0:01:06, 0:01:07]: Council Member Thomas. [0:01:09, 0:01:29]: Let the record reflect Council Member Thomas is not in attendance. Council Member Berry. Present. Council Member Barber. Present. Council Member Alexander. Present. Mayor Ford, do you have a quorum? Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate that. Uh Council need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. So move. For Miss Uh Ms. Farber. Uh second, Mr. Berry. All in favor, please. [0:01:29, 0:01:33]: All right. Um now need motion to go into executive session. [0:01:34, 0:01:48]: Mayor I'd like to make a motion to go into executive session for personnel real estate litigation as we normally do. All right. Sir second that motion. Second. All fair, please indicate. All right. So now she said ladies and gentlemen, we'll be back. Thank you. [0:09:15, 0:09:16]: Yeah. [1:46:53, 1:47:02]: All right, ladies and gentlemen. Council, um, I need a motion to end our executive session, please. So moved. Second. Okay, from Mr. Alzheimer's and Mr. Berry, all in favor, please indicate. [1:47:03, 1:47:23]: Unanimous decision, okay. Now I need a motion to uh reconvene our special call meeting, please. So move. Okay for Mr. Alexander? Second. Mr. Berry, all in favor, please indicate. Unanimous decision on that. And ladies and gentlemen, from the our executive session, we have a several several different motions that we need to proceed and and uh get on record here. All right. [1:47:23, 1:47:30]: Mr. Berry, please. Our first first motion is to withdraw the name of Dr. Adaderen as our sole finalist and city manager. [1:47:31, 1:47:32]: Is there a second to that motion? [1:47:33, 1:47:35]: Okay, Ms. Cant, second in all favor, please indicate. [1:47:36, 1:47:39]: All right, Mr. Berry, please. [1:47:39, 1:47:50]: All right, the second motion is to uh name Shantez Edmondson as our new sole finalist for the vacant city manager position. Okay, second from Mr. Alexander. [1:47:50, 1:47:51]: All in favor, please indicate. [1:47:53, 1:47:57]: Okay, is that now it's decision on that? Thank you very much. And um Mr. Barrett please. [1:47:58, 1:48:10]: And our final motion, sir, is to reschedule our meeting scheduled for July the fourteenth to the July fifteenth date. Second. Okay. From Mr. Alexander, second dad, on fair please syndicate. Fantastic. [1:48:10, 1:48:19]: All right, you now see on that. And now I need a motion to end our special call meeting. So moved. Second. Mr. Burr, second from the second from Mr. Alzheimer's all fair, please indicate. [1:48:19, 1:48:21]: Good night, God bless you all. We're done. [1:48:22, 1:48:23]: Thank you.

--- title: Planning Commission date: 2025-06-26 source: 2025-06-26_Planning_Commission.wav --- [0:00:23, 0:00:43]: All right. G good evening everyone. Welcome to the City of Stockbridge planning committee for June twenty-sixth, twenty twenty-five. I'm Jaden Williams, the chairman of the Planning Commissioners. The other members of the Planning Commission are sitting alongside of me on the diet. Commissioner Dumas, could you please start? [0:00:43, 0:00:50]: Start us off with an invocation. Immediately following, I ask you all to please stand and join us in the Pledge of Allegiance. Mr. Jimis. [0:00:50, 0:00:51]: That's probably. [0:00:52, 0:01:02]: Loving God, as we gather here tonight in this Hallowed Chamber to conduct the people's business, we invite your spirit into this place. [0:01:02, 0:01:14]: And we ask that each one of us will allow your spirit to guide what we say and what we do. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen. Amen. Please join us in the pledge. [0:01:16, 0:01:30]: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, one divide, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. [0:01:33, 0:01:34]: Thank you very much. [0:01:36, 0:01:39]: Madam Miss Linda, I'll go ahead and uh start the roll call. [0:01:41, 0:01:41]: President. [0:01:43, 0:01:43]: President. [0:01:45, 0:01:46]: Present. [0:01:46, 0:01:47]: President. [0:01:51, 0:01:52]: Present. [0:01:53, 0:02:03]: Thank you so much. At this time, Commissioners, uh you have before you the agenda for tonight's meeting. If there are no changes, I'll accept a motion to approve the agenda. [0:02:03, 0:02:04]: I move approval. [0:02:05, 0:02:09]: I have a motion by Commissioner Thibodeau. Is there a second? I second it, Thibodeau. [0:02:09, 0:02:15]: There's a second uh by Mr. Timidal. All those in favor, please indicate by the sound of aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? [0:02:17, 0:02:26]: Agenda is adopted before you as well as the appr is the meeting minutes from our meeting on five twenty two, twenty twenty five. I'll accept a motion for the approval of those minutes. [0:02:26, 0:02:42]: Mr. Chairman, would you repeat the motions for adoption of amendments, please? Yes. Uh agenda rather. It was motioned by Dumas, seconded by Thibodeau. All in favor. Thank you. Of course. Commissioners, I'll accept an a a motion for approval of the last meeting minutes. [0:02:49, 0:03:01]: Mr. Chairman. Yes. I'll make the motion to approve the summary minutes. Motion by uh Mr. Mitton. Is there a second? I sign a second. Second by Vice Chair. All those in favor, please indicate by the sign up. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? [0:03:02, 0:03:03]: So moved. [0:03:07, 0:03:15]: All right, let's get into this. There are a few protocol items that I need to make you all aware of before we start tonight's public hearing cases. [0:03:16, 0:03:36]: Number one, keep your comments and presentation on a professional level dealing with facts that are important for this commission to make its decision. We would not accept comments that are considered by the chair to be a personal attack for any individual or group. You will receive a warning from the chair if you derive from these requirements. A second deviation will result in you having to leave the meeting. [0:03:36, 0:03:56]: or the premises for the evening. Refrain from any applause or comments from the audience. Only one person will be speaking at a time. All comments will be made at the podium, and after the speaker has been recognized by the chair, please direct all comments to the Chair and the Commission, not the audience or the staff. Please do not applaud or react to speakers. Speak from the audience, cheer, carry on, [0:03:56, 0:04:00]: conversations with others in the audience or disrupt the order of this meeting in any way. [0:04:01, 0:04:10]: Be aware that these hearings are not a debate or an opportunity to ask questions which must be answered by any individual tonight, but are merely an opportunity to present information to this commission. [0:04:11, 0:04:31]: Other than the applicant, no person may speak more than once. The applicant may reserve part of his their speaking time as rebuttal and may speak next and last and may use the entire ten minutes allotted for the pro side of the application. Other than the applicant, no person may speak longer than five minutes. If you have a cell phone or other electronic device, I ask that you either power them off or put them in. [0:04:31, 0:04:31]: Silent mode. [0:04:32, 0:04:47]: If anyone wishes to speak tonight, please fill out a speaker's form which is available on the table at the front and hand it to a staff member before approaching the podium. After each item is called, we will hear next from city staff and then we'll hear from the applicant or the representative. [0:04:47, 0:05:07]: Along with any other relevant information that they wish to present, the commission members will be free to ask questions at any time before the vote on a project. Following the applicant, anyone who wishes to speak for or against the project or to just ask questions will have an opportunity to do so. Each side is restricted to a maximum of ten minutes, or time may be waived at the discretion of the presider. [0:05:07, 0:05:08]: Yeah. [0:05:09, 0:05:13]: If any questions are raised, we may ask the applicant to speak again. Afterwards, [0:05:13, 0:05:33]: We will call for a motion in a second and have necessary discussion. And if the matter is not tabled, we will vote to recommend approval or denial of this application. The commission is only a recommending body. The item will be heard by the mayor and council whether we recommend or recommend denial unless they are tabled. These items will be heard at the city's mayor and council. [0:05:33, 0:05:39]: Council meeting on Monday, July 14th, 2025, and the items will be voted upon at that meeting. [0:05:41, 0:05:41]: [342.8, 348.9]: I'm gonna read into records item one, two, and item three on the agenda. [0:05:50, 0:06:10]: Annexation case AX-2025-01. Property is located in Council District 5. Consideration of a request for an annexation using one hundred percent annexation method of the property at 1448 and 1468 Flippin' Road from unincorporated Henry County into the city limits of Stockbridge. The purpose is to allow for the construction of a missed [0:06:10, 0:06:30]: Residential development with townhomes and single-family detached homes. The property owner is William K. Excuse me if I said your name incorrectly. And the property owner of 1468 are the same. The applicant is Land Buyers of America LLC. The agent is Michael Kahner. The property is located in landlots 11. [0:06:30, 0:06:35]: and twelve of district six and contains twenty one point seven more or less acres. [0:06:36, 0:06:56]: Comprehensive plan amendment case CP-2025-01. Property is located in Council District 5. Consideration of a request for a comprehensive plan amendment for the property after after the property is annexed into the city limits. The property currently has the Henry County Future Land Use Resident Designation of Medium Density Suburbs. [0:06:56, 0:07:16]: And the applicant requests that it is assigned to the Stockbridge future land use designation of medium density residential. The purpose is to allow for construction of a mixed residential development with townhomes and single-family homes. The property contains 21.7 more or less acres. Rezoning case RZ-2025-01. [0:07:16, 0:07:21]: Located in Council District five. After the property is annexed into the city, the property's current [0:07:21, 0:07:41]: Henry County Zoning District is RA, Residential Agricultural, and the applicant requests that the property be assigned to the City of Stockbridge Zoning District of PUD Planned Unit Development. The purpose is to allow for the construction of a mixed residential development with townhomes and single family, which contains 21.7 more or less acres. The staff will now give a joint pre- [0:07:41, 0:07:45]: Presentation of all three cases. Please staff. [0:08:30, 0:08:39]: Good evening, everyone. This is a PowerPoint presentation for property at 1448 and 1468 Flippin' Road for three cases. [0:08:39, 0:08:46]: Um AX twenty twenty five oh one, C P twenty twenty five oh one and R Z twenty twenty five oh one. [0:08:53, 0:09:06]: So I'm gonna discuss probably first give the overview of the proposed project and then get into the analysis for each one of the three cases. Um so the purposes of the cases, the property description, and the proposed development. [0:09:07, 0:09:24]: Um the purpose of annexation case AX twenty twenty-five oh one is to annex property from unincorporated Henry County to the Stockwood City limits and purpose of comprehensive plan amendment case number CP twenty twenty-five oh one is to change the property's future land use designation. [0:09:25, 0:09:31]: From Henry County's residential suburban to City of Stockbridge's resid medium density residential. [0:09:31, 0:09:34]: And then for rezoning case number R Z twenty twenty five oh one. [0:09:34, 0:09:38]: Its purpose is to change a property's zoning district from Henry County's R A [0:09:39, 0:09:43]: Residential Agricultural Zoning District to the City of Stockbridge's [0:09:43, 0:09:48]: PUD Plan Unit Development District, the applicants, land buyers of America L L C [0:09:48, 0:09:49]: Agent Michael Kahner. [0:09:50, 0:09:51]: Um and [0:09:51, 0:10:03]: Now the annexation case must be approved uh before the other two cases can can be approved. Here is a joint aerial photo. There are two parcels side by side in Flippin' Road just south of [0:10:03, 0:10:05]: I seventy five. [0:10:06, 0:10:07]: And then um [0:10:07, 0:10:14]: The first one, fourteen forty eight, there's some floodplain areas around there. A little bit of it touches on the corner of this parcel. [0:10:19, 0:10:33]: Uh we mentioned already the property owners, twenty seven point seven seven one total acres roughly. This is located on the west side of Flippin Flippin' Road, south of Surge Stone Lane, and across from the St. Ives Court. Excuse me. [0:10:34, 0:10:40]: Uh the property's mostly wooded, except for a single family home on each parcel. [0:10:40, 0:10:41]: Um [0:10:41, 0:10:48]: The future land use designation residential suburban by Henry County and current zoning RA by Henry County. [0:10:50, 0:10:53]: Let's see, we have some additional information here. Some of this is [0:10:53, 0:10:55]: been mentioned already? [0:10:55, 0:11:00]: surrounding zoning, we have suburban and residential to the north in the city. [0:11:00, 0:11:05]: uh rural agriculture to the west, single family residence uh to the southwest. [0:11:06, 0:11:08]: Rural agricultural and multifamily to the south. [0:11:09, 0:11:17]: Residential duplex, Henry County to the southeast, and suburban residential and PUD to the east. Um [0:11:21, 0:11:24]: Okay, here's a joint future land use map. [0:11:24, 0:11:27]: Of the property shown by the two stars. [0:11:29, 0:11:31]: Uh joint zoning map. [0:11:32, 0:11:36]: Here is the survey of the property. There is a house on each parcel right now. [0:11:37, 0:11:44]: All right, the proposed development uh developer proposes a mixed residential subdivision to be called Hanover Park. [0:11:45, 0:11:50]: It would contain thirty one single family detached units and a hundred twenty [0:11:50, 0:11:51]: Town home units. [0:11:51, 0:11:54]: Uh for a total of a hundred and fifty one units. [0:11:54, 0:11:57]: Density would be six point nine four units per acre. [0:11:58, 0:12:15]: They're proposing PUD. Uh that's necessary because they're including two types of residential uses. Otherwise, if it was just one, it would be MFR. All units will have three bedrooms, two baths, two car garages. And homes would have sixteen hundred to two thousand square feet. [0:12:15, 0:12:25]: and be covered by brick and hardyboard uh facades. Uh there are quite a few uh amenities being proposed, a pool with a clubhouse, golf putting green, tot lot, [0:12:26, 0:12:35]: tennis or t pickleball courts and a community sports field. Um they've prepared a colored site plan and a black and white sub plan uh site plan. [0:12:35, 0:12:36]: Um [0:12:36, 0:12:40]: And the title is Annexation and rezoning plan for H Hanover Park. [0:12:43, 0:12:44]: Let's see if we can get to the [0:12:46, 0:12:55]: Here's the colored site plan. And this is Flippin' Road on the east on the on the east side. So it would have two entrances off of Flippin' Road. [0:12:55, 0:13:03]: uh circular driveway around. There would be a clubhouse and a pool at the front with some guest parking. [0:13:03, 0:13:11]: uh pickleball or tennis courts in the center, a community sports field, and uh golf pudding green in the taut lot. [0:13:12, 0:13:19]: And n they would have the single family homes mainly on the north side here, around to the back. [0:13:20, 0:13:28]: Um and then the town homes would be more i in the in the center and then down on the south side. And there'd be one large house here at the front. [0:13:30, 0:13:31]: Here's an enlargement of that. [0:13:34, 0:13:41]: The black and white site plan so shows further details. Um the the the lot individual lots are numbered. [0:13:41, 0:13:42]: And so forth. [0:13:44, 0:13:50]: There is some uh wetlands down in this corner. Let me go back to this other slide here. [0:13:53, 0:13:54]: Um [0:13:56, 0:14:02]: So I mentioned all this. There'd be a twenty five foot uh buffer around the property. Um [0:14:06, 0:14:18]: Setbacks twenty feet in the front yards for all units, five feet in the side yards for single family lots, uh zero feet on the for on the side for town home lots, and twenty feet in the rear yards for all lots. [0:14:19, 0:14:24]: Now these setbarks are not required because they're rezoning the PUD, but this is just what they proposed. [0:14:25, 0:14:27]: Distance between town home buildings twenty feet. [0:14:27, 0:14:28]: Um [0:14:32, 0:14:32]: Okay. [0:14:34, 0:14:37]: This is just a table with all that same information. [0:14:43, 0:14:47]: Okay. This is an analysis of the annexation case. [0:14:51, 0:15:03]: So there were several questions to to be answered. Uh mainly is the property contiguous to um a property that's already in the city and yes it would be. Uh several parcels. [0:15:03, 0:15:06]: Next to uh Saint Ives Court. [0:15:06, 0:15:09]: And another parcel next to Rum Creek subdivision. [0:15:09, 0:15:12]: The hundred percent annexation method will be used. [0:15:12, 0:15:13]: Um [0:15:14, 0:15:17]: And the property would be within Henry County boundary. [0:15:20, 0:15:28]: The property is receiving mun municipal services from Henry County, um, the Water Authority, Henry County Fire and EMS, also Georgia Power. [0:15:30, 0:15:34]: And the properties that would be used for urban purposes would be developed. [0:15:34, 0:15:36]: With a proposed development. [0:15:37, 0:15:40]: Um they've also applied for comprehensive plan. [0:15:40, 0:15:41]: Amendment? [0:15:44, 0:15:53]: This would help to further one of the goals of the comprehensive plan by providing new additional housing into the city, providing options with different types of housing. [0:15:54, 0:15:54]: Um [0:15:56, 0:15:58]: The site seems to be suitable. [0:16:01, 0:16:02]: Okay. [0:16:06, 0:16:09]: All right, we recommend approval of the annexation case. [0:16:10, 0:16:13]: Now here's analysis of the comprehensive plan amendment case. [0:16:14, 0:16:16]: So the request is to [0:16:16, 0:16:20]: A sign after property's annexed into the city if that happens. [0:16:21, 0:16:25]: Uh request is assigned a future land use designation of medium density residential [0:16:26, 0:16:28]: To allow the mixed residential development. [0:16:29, 0:16:39]: Medium density residential allows a density from four to seven point nine nine units, and this would be uh six point uh nine four units per acre. [0:16:43, 0:16:51]: We have some of the surrounding land use designations, low and medium density, uh f couple high density. [0:16:52, 0:16:52]: Um [0:16:53, 0:17:00]: This property would have a density of six point nine four units per acre. Flippin' wood town homes nearby would be similar to that. [0:17:02, 0:17:04]: And yeah, there's our single family. [0:17:05, 0:17:07]: These are some of the surrounding developments. [0:17:11, 0:17:20]: Uh so as I said, this will meet the housing goal of the comprehensive plan, make adequate uh facilities and services available to city residents. [0:17:21, 0:17:24]: And have appropriate land use designations. [0:17:30, 0:17:31]: They [0:17:32, 0:17:37]: relation to the zoning of the uh surrounding property would be compatible with other surrounding la land use designations? [0:17:38, 0:17:41]: Uh, which includes single family and town home developments. [0:17:44, 0:17:49]: And there would be there's other s medium density residential designations in the area. [0:17:50, 0:17:51]: Okay. [0:17:52, 0:17:59]: We recommend approval of CP twenty twenty five oh one. Now the analysis for the rezoning case are Z twenty twenty five oh one. [0:18:01, 0:18:04]: There's certain standards that have to be met, consistency with the comprehensive plan. [0:18:05, 0:18:06]: Which I've covered. [0:18:11, 0:18:15]: I mentioned that it needs to be PUD because two types of land uses would be included. [0:18:17, 0:18:24]: Uh this would be an extension of another PUD uh zoning district on the other side of Flippin' Road. [0:18:24, 0:18:27]: There would be a number of amenities included in the project. [0:18:28, 0:18:30]: Property's fairly flat right now. [0:18:32, 0:18:35]: It seems suitable for the development of of the property. [0:18:36, 0:18:38]: You don't participate. [0:18:38, 0:18:42]: Um adverse impacts on surrounding uh properties. [0:18:45, 0:18:54]: The applicant obtained a water authority, a letter from Henry County Water Authority, which stated that water and sewer services are available to serve proposed development. [0:18:54, 0:18:55]: Oh. [0:18:57, 0:19:02]: No traffic impact study was submitted. Uh we could not [0:19:03, 0:19:06]: Uh evaluate that impact as of yet. [0:19:07, 0:19:08]: There would be two [0:19:09, 0:19:17]: uh entrances to the property that would accommodate emergency vehicles. Deceleration lanes and sidewalks will be provided along Flip Flippin' Road. [0:19:22, 0:19:27]: Okay, uh we've concluded that the proposed re mixed residential development will be well suited to the site. [0:19:27, 0:19:29]: It would be attractive design. [0:19:29, 0:19:34]: It's good that they're having two site two accesses to the property for emergency vehicles. [0:19:35, 0:19:35]: Um [0:19:36, 0:19:38]: And they would have sufficient open space [0:19:38, 0:19:43]: Um the proposed density setbacks and distances would be reasonable. [0:19:44, 0:19:44]: Um [0:19:45, 0:19:59]: We actually calculated that they would provide uh well over the amount of parking that's needed. We recommend approval conditions uh based on the uh site plan that is similar to the one that was submitted, having um [0:20:00, 0:20:02]: Decelerations and project entrances. [0:20:02, 0:20:05]: Actually I mentioned that parking was actually sufficient. [0:20:06, 0:20:10]: An architectural design proposed home shall be constructed with styles of exterior materials. [0:20:11, 0:20:13]: Which comply with UDC standards. [0:20:13, 0:20:16]: And for property maintenance, uh HOA or property management. [0:20:17, 0:20:19]: Companies shall maintain the common areas. [0:20:19, 0:20:21]: of the property and the townhomes. [0:20:23, 0:20:24]: Any questions? [0:20:25, 0:20:27]: Thank you so much, Linda. Are there any questions for staff? [0:20:29, 0:20:39]: Mr. Chairman, I have a question. Please. Ms. Logan, so is there any um potential for a traffic impact study before this uh this moves forward? [0:20:40, 0:20:46]: Uh that would be a question to the applicant. Applicant is here tonight and is is gonna be making a presentation. Maybe you can answer that question. Thank you. [0:20:47, 0:20:57]: You have a question. I have one. Please. Mr. Logan, this development could it be accomplished without annexation? [0:21:00, 0:21:07]: Well, I don't know whether the applicant applied with Henry County or not. Um that was their option. [0:21:10, 0:21:15]: It looks from what I've seen on the plans, it looks very similar to [0:21:16, 0:21:34]: a subdivision development just north of that site where you have a combination of town homes and single family residential and s a few amenities. That particular project is located in Henry County. [0:21:35, 0:21:41]: I was just curious as to couldn't that same thing be done on this site without an annexation? [0:21:42, 0:21:43]: As po as possible. [0:21:45, 0:21:48]: But the applicants chosen to apply for annexation. [0:21:49, 0:21:50]: I understand that. [0:21:52, 0:21:55]: But the annexation [0:21:57, 0:21:59]: What further [0:22:00, 0:22:20]: Exacerbate what I've been widely hearing as to the balance of commercial versus residential property in the City's stock bridge. The burden is heavily skewed now toward residential property owners. Uh and and to continue to add. [0:22:20, 0:22:23]: add residential properties doesn't help that situation at all. [0:22:25, 0:22:33]: That's where I was going with the question. I'm not necessarily questioning the project itself, but does it need to be in Stark Bridge in order for it to happen? [0:22:34, 0:22:36]: That's for the council to decide. [0:22:38, 0:22:43]: I'm gonna echo your sentiments on that, Commissioner. But uh if there's any if there are no other questions. Can you hear me now? [0:22:44, 0:22:54]: Say it again. I said I'm gonna echo your sentiments because I I stand with that as well. But if there are no other questions for staff, I would like to hear from the applicant and allot those ten minutes to have our necessary questions. [0:22:56, 0:22:59]: If the applicant can please come up and say their name and address. [0:23:03, 0:23:03]: Thank you, Ms. Lynn. [0:23:38, 0:23:58]: Good afternoon, Planning Commission, staff, public. My name is Jonathan Jones and I'm with Elite Engineering. I represent land buyers of America for the proposed annexation and rezoning of about 22 acres located adjacent to the city. One of the questions obviously is could it be developed in Henry County? Um it probably could be developed in [0:23:58, 0:24:02]: [1443.0, 1452.0]: was searching for property that could was either in the city or could be annexed in the city. Um just to be honest with you, the city of Stockbridge has a better [0:24:13, 0:24:18]: persona marketability than Henry County in most parts and [0:24:18, 0:24:19]: We feel or they felt. [0:24:20, 0:24:28]: like it was a a a better product and a better project to be in the city. And that's solely the reason that we we went that route. Um [0:24:29, 0:24:30]: Де її [0:24:32, 0:24:34]: Get this thing so everybody can see it. [0:24:38, 0:24:39]: There it goes. [0:24:40, 0:24:42]: All right, let me see if I can't make this [0:24:43, 0:24:51]: Okay. Um so a couple things that we have done to try to uh differentiate this project. [0:24:51, 0:25:01]: um from adjacent properties and other projects that these these developers are doing is the amenities is going to be a restore a resort style amenity. [0:25:01, 0:25:21]: When you pull into development, the first thing you're gonna see is the clubhouse. It's gonna be a very nice clubhouse, it's gonna have a pool, it's gonna have putt putt greens that'll be weatherproof, it's gonna have um pickleball courts, it's gonna have a community playground right centralized in between um the community, it's gonna have sidewalks that walk [0:25:21, 0:25:41]: Walk all around the community and connect to the amenity itself. And there's a requirement for a 10-foot sidewalk along the entire frontage of Flippin' Road. So the investment alone in the amenity by this development group is g is gonna be quite s excessive. And that that alone should should, in my opinion, tell you that they're serious about wanting to. [0:25:41, 0:25:53]: to be here. They're serious about want to do a quality product here. They didn't come in with little cabana and a little bitty pool. They came in with a strategy of providing something that people want to live at. [0:25:54, 0:25:55]: Oh. [0:25:55, 0:25:56]: Um [0:25:56, 0:26:16]: It it is a mixed use, uh can considered a mixed use because there's single family homes and there's town homes and and we have uh tried to design the project so that the north and west um we build single family homes adjacent to single family homes um to limit the impact. We realize that no matter what. [0:26:16, 0:26:17]: Right. [0:26:17, 0:26:26]: Whether we develop this property or somebody else develops this property, it impacts the neighbors. We recognize that and we try to be conscious enough to [0:26:26, 0:26:46]: to to you know if if there's single family there then we want to we want to match it. We didn't we didn't try to put townhomes up against single family. We intentionally tried to differentiate. Another one of the concerns um was was access in and out. We're providing a parkway style entrance where it'll have a divided medium. It'll have two in, two out, and [0:26:46, 0:26:57]: We're going to provide a traffic study and if that traffic study warrants a light or a left turn lane, we're amenable to putting in those items. [0:26:58, 0:27:01]: A lot of people don't understand exactly about the light. [0:27:03, 0:27:12]: We can't put a light in because we want to and we can't put a light in because you want to. If it's warranted, then we're allowed to put it in. There's strict [0:27:12, 0:27:16]: requirements. Now I personally think with the traffic on this road, it will be warranted. [0:27:17, 0:27:18]: So but [0:27:19, 0:27:27]: Whether the county wanted to, the city wanted to, or a local developer wanted to, you just don't get to put a light in. It has to be warranted. So um [0:27:27, 0:27:35]: The proposal is 120 townhomes, 31 single family homes. The townhomes will be a mix of two story and three story. [0:27:35, 0:27:36]: Um [0:27:38, 0:27:44]: Staff did recommend approval um and and part of the the um comprehensive plan amendment [0:27:44, 0:27:51]: Um it it it denoted that this development would quote help the city in its needs for additional housing. [0:27:52, 0:28:07]: Um that's not something we created. That was something that staff noted. Um it is compatible with adjacent properties. There's some PUDs, there's some town homes, there's some duplexes. Um the open space we're providing is more than is required under the requirements. Um [0:28:08, 0:28:18]: The density allowed is from four to eight units per acre, so we fall within that. Um this project build out would not happen before the 75 connector is completed. [0:28:19, 0:28:39]: So I know part of the concerns is traffic and getting from point A to point B, but the intent would be that the 75 connector would be completed before the duration of this project. One thing that I did note from Miss Linda when she was talking, it said something about the houses 1600 to eight or to 2,000. The minimum we intend to build is 1800 square. [0:28:39, 0:28:50]: square feet. I know that's not a huge difference, but we wanted to at least mention that, you know, we we the minimum we would do is eighteen hundred and that that includes townhomes or otherwise. Um [0:28:50, 0:28:57]: Once again, we will be providing a traffic study and if warranted, left turn lane uh [0:28:57, 0:29:15]: the D cell lanes will obviously be added no matter what and if a light's warranted we would we'd be involved in in all of that participation. Um we did check with the county water and sewer is readily available for this project and can support the quantity of units that we're proposing. [0:29:15, 0:29:18]: Um I'll be happy to let let me go through [0:29:19, 0:29:21]: So you've got you've got some, you know [0:29:21, 0:29:25]: renditions of elevations of of what we propose the homes to look like. [0:29:26, 0:29:29]: Miss Linda already showed the site plan. [0:29:29, 0:29:38]: Um this is once again the amenity area. It's centralized the Mel kiosk, the clubhouse, the pool, putting green, pot lot, pickleball. [0:29:39, 0:29:59]: The the the sports field is all in the center of the community. So everybody can get there. When you get home, unfortunately in this day and age, we don't have mailboxes. I mean I do, but most people don't have them. You got to go to a kiosk. That's something that we don't like. Nobody likes, but it's required. We try to centralize. [0:29:59, 0:30:01]: So when you get home from work. [0:30:02, 0:30:18]: You can go get your mail right there at the front door at the clubhouse and then go. Or you can go home and get your kids and walk the sidewalks up to the amenities, spend some time, get your mail, however. So we try to and then like I said, this would be a version of of the the three story town home type product. [0:30:19, 0:30:20]: And um [0:30:21, 0:30:24]: More like a two story type product and there'll be a mix of twos and threes. [0:30:25, 0:30:35]: Um but I I'd be happy to to take the rest of my time to answer any questions you guys may have, staff may have, or for rebuttal for anybody who may be in opposition to this project. [0:30:36, 0:30:50]: Thank you so much, sir. Thank you, sir. Um I'm gonna start off with some board comments and I'm gonna kick us off here. Um few questions. I saw when staff was reporting about setbacks, are there gonna I didn't see any setbacks for the size of the town homes? [0:30:50, 0:31:10]: Yes, according to um so it there has to be twenty feet between the buildings. That's that's N FPA National Fire Protection Association code fourteen. So it doesn't matter if I we engineering Marietta or Stockbridge, twenty foot's a minimum because of firewalls and and the things. So you are gonna follow that that guy. Yes, we'll follow that exactly. Now where a townhome abuts the resident. [0:31:10, 0:31:20]: Residential, the residential rear setback will come into play and there'll be a side yard setback for the townhome of five. And then the rear setback for the home would be [0:31:20, 0:31:40]: what's defined, which I believe is a twenty foot front, a twenty foot rear, and five foot side. So um hopefully that answers your question. Yeah, I have a few more. Okay. Um and some of these are very short. Yes, absolutely. Plans to be gated? Is this gonna be a gated community or is this open? So we we would love to gate it in conversations with [0:31:40, 0:31:55]: with um Henry County Fire Department, they're not an advocate of of of putting a gate in and we're proposing a parkway style entrance where you've got two out, two in and a median, which to us that lends perfection for a gated entrance. [0:31:55, 0:32:01]: But they want a stacking off of flipping roads so deep into the property. [0:32:01, 0:32:08]: that it would it'd nearby nearby be impossible. Uh in my opinion, the only way a gated community could work [0:32:08, 0:32:28]: for Henry County's fire is for the property to be way larger than this, like a big master plan community or something. But if staff sees it as an opportunity for us to gate it, I think my client would be more than willing and want to gate it. Even if it was a faux gate, so it looked like it was a gated community, they would even be open to that. [0:32:28, 0:32:30]: It really depends on [0:32:30, 0:32:34]: You know, if staff can work with us in Henry County if approved. [0:32:35, 0:32:44]: to to to get it gated, we I think that would be something we'd all love to see. I think it would lend itself and honestly it'd make these residents feel much better about their community too. [0:32:44, 0:33:04]: Yeah, I'm not sure a gated community in that area would be a fit for that specific community or in that area because it doesn't fit the tone of that district. Okay. Let me ask, cause I know you got a water, uh a letter from our water into it from Hemory County. I love that. I know we don't have a traffic study, but that's fine because we are already aware of the uh big [0:33:04, 0:33:20]: building and construction of our expansions and our roads. But did you never mention an impact study? Like did you actually talk to those residents in those areas and those surrounding communities in that neighborhood that you said um had those single family homes? Did you all have an opportunity to have those conversations with them? [0:33:20, 0:33:29]: Um so uh Zach Zach you did? Yep. So so Zach Murray has been helping facilitate he's had dental surgery and so he's [0:33:30, 0:33:35]: not super available. But um he had taught us some s not only staff, but I think some [0:33:35, 0:33:42]: political people and some people in the community and and that's why we changed up and made it single family around [0:33:42, 0:33:45]: what we consider the residential and and I know [0:33:45, 0:33:46]: uh behind us or [0:33:47, 0:34:07]: What's the the opp opposite direction of flipping? I guess that would be to the west. There's some nice large estate homes. So furthermore, we we put a a buffer back there, we put single family homes back there. So, you know, once again, any let me say I think that's great, but my question was not the politics and the community, because I we community people and I don't live anywhere near that. [0:34:07, 0:34:15]: That that residency. Okay. My question is the people that are impacted directly in that area, did you have a conversation with that back neighborhood? [0:34:24, 0:34:32]: Thank you so much. Um and then also I had three more questions than I prom I mean. Yeah, totally. So and and no and [0:34:33, 0:34:40]: Don't don't don't badge me now. But is the property value gonna decrease for those homes that are in there because they're directly across the street from a town home? [0:34:42, 0:34:46]: Well, so the question is is how old are those homes? [0:34:46, 0:34:49]: Okay. Okay. Um these these new town homes are gonna be [0:34:50, 0:34:51]: Probably [0:34:51, 0:34:57]: Well into the threes, possibly fours, and the single families will be more than that. Is that is that a fair statement, Josh? So [0:34:58, 0:35:12]: Looking at the the existing sales in that area of existing homes, it's below that. Is it gonna decrease their value? I would venture to say they'll say yes. My statement is is new product, new price points. [0:35:13, 0:35:19]: If it was across the street from me, it would increase my value because I know my taxes would go up. So I'm just gonna shoot you straight. That's my opinion. [0:35:20, 0:35:36]: And what's your rental cap? Are we doing a rental cap at all or is this straight person? Yeah, there is no intent to do rental here. So whatever the city standard is for rental cap, we're fine with. I know most of the time it's no more than ten percent, but whatever the city of Stockbridge's regulation, we're amenable to that. There's no intent to make this a rental community of any kind. [0:35:36, 0:35:40]: Okay. And then my last um [0:35:41, 0:35:44]: I'll hold them and I'll pass it to another board member if they have any questions. [0:35:46, 0:35:46]: Yeah. [0:35:46, 0:35:49]: Right here, Vash chair? Go ahead. Go ahead. [0:35:49, 0:36:08]: Yes, I I was I actually love the amenities that are coming with this property. Yes, ma'am. So I commend you on that. But um I just had a comment and and just um knowing some single families um and the amenities that you're trying to offer. [0:36:08, 0:36:28]: I just feel like, you know, and speaking for m uh you know, for a single family that it's gonna fall you know, the mini the m the cost of the amenities and things like that are gonna fall on the backs of the single family. And it's you know, with the rent or the mortgage being, you know, as much as is as it is. [0:36:28, 0:36:33]: You know, I don't I'm not sure if you know this um [0:36:34, 0:36:41]: This property is giving single families a break, essentially. And and what's the the the makeup of it? Is it hardy wick hardy plank and wood? [0:36:42, 0:37:02]: Uh it it's a combination of bricks, uh rock and hardy plank uh is I believe the materials. Um Miss Miss Linda could confirm that, but I believe that's in the plan to charge single families about three to four hundred thousand for these? Uh no, the single families would be probably more into the four to fives and then yeah, the townhomes will be [0:37:01, 0:37:05]: definitely in the high threes and the fours. Yeah. [0:37:06, 0:37:14]: Yeah and and to answer your question, I didn't mean to cut you off so if you're if you uh we tried to pick amenities package that is less burdensome so [0:37:15, 0:37:16]: Play fields. [0:37:16, 0:37:36]: Take up a lot of room, but they're relatively inexpensive to take care of. The putt and greens that we put in, um, it's the new AstroTurf. The initial cost by the developer is pretty pretty strong, but they come with a 20-year lifetime warranty on the material. So in theory, if something were to go wrong, the HOA could submit. [0:37:36, 0:37:56]: For a warranty if it's within the first 20 years. After 20 years, yeah, they may have to upgrade it. Also, pickleballs last approximately twice as long as tennis tennis courts. Two pickleballs equal one tennis court, basically. And so you don't have expensive nets. The fencing usually stays, you know. [0:37:56, 0:38:16]: Pretty pretty good. So we tried to pick amenities that wouldn't be financially burdensome. Um, the pool, yes, we all know. And the clubhouse itself, we all know those those two items, they will be a financial cost. But with 151 residents, we feel confident that this amenity package ultimately the HOA. [0:38:16, 0:38:19]: uh dues would be very uh [0:38:20, 0:38:22]: normal to this community. [0:38:22, 0:38:30]: Whether it was built here or in Clayton County or in Douglas County or Atlanta, that 151 homes could definitely support it. [0:38:31, 0:38:31]: Yeah. [0:38:32, 0:38:37]: Define normal HOAV to me. So a normal HOAV, what do you what do you expect to H O V? [0:38:41, 0:38:41]: Do what now? [0:38:43, 0:38:47]: Yeah, they they haven't figured out the exact amenity fee because it's all gonna be based on [0:38:48, 0:38:51]: He has to leave a surplus in there. Correct. [0:38:51, 0:38:54]: So when the HOA starts, they're not broke. [0:38:54, 0:39:14]: So that comes into play, but the ultimately the monthly dues will will be a factor of what we ultimately determine what the maintenance cost will be. They haven't dove into that yet because this is so early into the cost of this, basically seeing if it can get annexed and zoned and then that'd be something that they'll have to, you know, comprise and and come up with. But uh [0:39:14, 0:39:25]: Hopefully that answered that. Sounds good, Commissioner? I have a question for you, sir. Yes, sir. Who determines whether a traffic light is warranted? [0:39:26, 0:39:46]: Can I okay. So um we'll submit a traffic study, and that traffic study is gonna determine how many vehicular trips are on that road now, how many vehicular trips we're gonna create and put on that road, and that includes Amazon, UPS, your neighbor, taking the kids to daycare, taking kids to school, the school bus. So all of [0:39:46, 0:39:52]: that comes into account and that study says okay x number of people are going to go right x number of people are going to go left [0:39:53, 0:40:13]: Flipping road has an X number of people going east, X number of people going west. If that traffic count meets a certain warrant ratio with number of cars during peak hours, then we are allowed by the ITE trip generation manual to be able to facilitate putting a traffic light in. [0:40:13, 0:40:15]: Personally, I think it already meets it. [0:40:15, 0:40:17]: I'm just being honest with you. [0:40:17, 0:40:18]: But [0:40:18, 0:40:24]: When we put our intersection and it's gonna be an intersection with St. Ives, that will be a true four-way intersection. [0:40:25, 0:40:25]: Where [0:40:25, 0:40:32]: it makes sense to have something at that location that regulates the traffic, both from safety and access. So [0:40:32, 0:40:39]: It's warranted one hundred percent by the number of vehicular traffics that is generated not only by us, but currently on that road. [0:40:41, 0:40:51]: I don't think you understood my question. Okay, I'm sorry. Oh, who will determine? It'll be staff. It'll be staff based on the ITE trip generation manual and the traffic study. [0:40:52, 0:41:12]: So they'll determine if it's warranted based on their criteria set forth in the IT. Yeah, there'll be DOT. It should be it should be stopped. Yeah, it should be Henry County DOT working with the city of Stockbridge to determine what the needs and wants are. Yes, sir. That's exactly right. Yes, sir. I'm sorry. Your your entrance is it gonna line up [0:41:12, 0:41:32]: Up with St. Ives on the street. Yes, sir. Mm-hmm. Parkway style. That would be a perfect setup for traffic. It would be an ideal setup. We intentionally did that. We knew that staff would probably want us to align anyway. Jogs are very dangerous. Somebody pulls out this way, somebody pulls out that way. So I I realistically think that a lot will ultimately go there. And it may be a [0:41:32, 0:41:37]: I share your sentiments a hundred percent. I I think so too. But [0:41:38, 0:41:42]: I would hate to recommend approval to the council. [0:41:43, 0:41:50]: Yes, sure. And then the council approves it. And then somewhere down the road it's determined that a light is not warranted. [0:41:51, 0:42:11]: You could place a stipulation that said that um we're voluntary to install a light if allowed by DOT or if warranted. We're we're the ones that say we we're happy with a light. It'd be safer for our residents, it'd be better marketability for us. We would love to put it in. We're okay committing to put it in so long as the governing bodies. [0:42:11, 0:42:16]: Allow us to put it in. So if you wanted to word a zoning stipulation that's that way. [0:42:16, 0:42:19]: We'd be amenable to agreeing to a voluntary stipulation that says [0:42:20, 0:42:22]: If staff says we can put one in, we'll put one in. [0:42:30, 0:42:30]: Okay. [0:42:33, 0:42:34]: Any other questions, Commissioner? [0:42:37, 0:42:39]: Mr. Chairman. Oh go ahead and miss the min and come back. [0:42:40, 0:42:52]: Go ahead. I have two questions. So I want to go back to the rentals. So to the rentals. Uh so would the developer be willing to put into the HOA covenant to restrict rentals, leasing, Airbnb? [0:42:53, 0:42:57]: Yes, absolutely. You can volunteer skip your license for that. Yes, sir. Okay. [0:42:58, 0:43:12]: We have zero intent to make a surrender community anytime. Okay, we're good. I had a second question, it went right out of my head that fast. So it comes back to me I'll I'll follow up. Thank you. Yeah, no problem. Thank you. Ms. Davidal? [0:43:14, 0:43:20]: Uh, what type of security will you have set up to deterrent crime in your community? [0:43:21, 0:43:24]: Uh and I apologize, my hearing's so bad. What kind of [0:43:24, 0:43:44]: What kind of system you're gonna set in place to deterrent crime in the community? Yes, sir. Um so I guess in any community, um if it ain't gated, you're at the discretion of of the criminals. Um obviously this particular property doesn't lend itself for any little nooks and crannies and corners where [0:43:44, 0:43:45]: Yeah. [0:43:45, 0:43:51]: People could hide or park their vehicles. It's a loop road, two entrances in, two entrances out. [0:43:52, 0:43:52]: Yeah. [0:43:53, 0:43:53]: It is [0:43:54, 0:43:59]: fully enveloped by homes and on the interior it's encompassed by homes. So [0:44:00, 0:44:04]: The likelihood of crime in this kind of neighborhood is less than if you had a [0:44:04, 0:44:06]: Straight road that dead ended. [0:44:06, 0:44:22]: You have the opportunity for them to set up or sell drugs at this place. I I realistically feel one, being it's a new community, it's less likely, but the second thing, it provides a circular traffic about it where if the police wanted to put it on patrol, which I'm certain they will. [0:44:22, 0:44:24]: They can literally hit it and drive through it. [0:44:24, 0:44:30]: In one second and be right back out'cause it's just one loop road and they can see everything they want to see. So [0:44:31, 0:44:46]: Can you eliminate crime? No, sir. Would gain it help eliminate crime? It would help reduce it. But to answer your question, I don't know that there's really a whole lot of safeguards that any community can do to save the crime. I mean they'll be required to install plot cameras at the entryway. [0:44:47, 0:45:00]: Yeah, and whatever the requirement by the city is, we'll be a we'll be amenable to have to do it. Let me ask Ryan, the require the condition on the document you all gave us says required if gated. So is that requirement for flight cameras in general? Because the paperwork says if gated. [0:45:02, 0:45:13]: In general? Okay. Any other questions, Commissioner? I have a question. All right. Vice Chair. So this is this property will be lo located in my district. Okay. Um [0:45:15, 0:45:35]: Uh is there any gonna be any stipulations with regard to subleasing because that can kind of mitigate, you know, crime and things like that? And when you're talking about subleasing the units and the houses and whatever So once somebody I'm just being honest with you, once somebody buys their home, it's tough for me, you, the developer, builder of the city to police who [0:45:35, 0:45:41]: lives or in but there there will be a caveat that no more than whatever the city deems [0:45:41, 0:45:49]: One person can only own one house in there, or maybe you make it five percent or one per two percent. I don't know, case a mom and dad want to buy their daughter one beside'em. [0:45:49, 0:45:53]: But there's zero intent from us to have any rental at all. [0:45:53, 0:45:56]: We're going to fee simple sell everything. [0:45:56, 0:46:03]: Now ultimately five years down the road, if somebody buys Unit thirty eight and they want to lease it out to so and so [0:46:04, 0:46:09]: There's probably nothing that we could put in place other than the HOA monitoring them to stop it. [0:46:10, 0:46:18]: But if we've got a zoning stipulation that we volunteered to put on here that's not gonna be a rental community, I think the city does have the the ability to. [0:46:18, 0:46:23]: Use that device to stop any kind of activity пост девелон. [0:46:23, 0:46:43]: Okay. But yeah, there's no there's no desire to do any lease programs. These are all build to sell town homes and all. There's not gonna be any rentals. It it's gonna build and sell. That's his intent. Okay. That's the city's ten percent correct. Great. [0:46:43, 0:46:43]: [2804.4, 2807.9]: Yeah, I that's usually the cap is ten percent. So no more than [0:46:48, 0:47:08]: Fifteen units could be h owned by one entity in this project. Now, I personally think that it should be one percent, but I I you know okay, you'll probably include that in your HOA or sounds good. Yep. And and we we're amenable to putting in any device you feel comfortable and maybe that's the city's experience before to s to to make it [0:47:08, 0:47:20]: Not rental. We have zero it's it's not intended to be rental, not ever. So thank you so much, sir. Yes, sir. Um I will now close the applicant's course. Yes. Chair, may I speak before you close it? Go ahead. [0:47:20, 0:47:40]: Since the young lady asked the question, one of the uh things we do in our own neighborhood, and I'm actually in the HOA neighborhood, the homeowner is always responsible for that property, no matter what happens, whether it's fines or interruptions in the community, it all goes back to the homeowner. [0:47:40, 0:48:00]: So the homeowner has to make sure that that property is maintained the way it should because we look at the ownership first. The renter, they're not the owners. So at the end of the day, the owner has to give the renters permission to be at the pool or any amenities when they're not. [0:48:00, 0:48:03]: When it comes down to our neighborhood, HOA. [0:48:04, 0:48:22]: Thank you so much, Commissioner. Thank you so much, sir. Mr. Chairman, thank you. I'm sorry. Yes. Happens to me often. Um so if approved by city council, what's the timeline to to turn dirt on the process? To be honest with you, um i it's our intent, if approved through this process, um we would begin [0:48:22, 0:48:25]: full engineering and submit [0:48:25, 0:48:30]: As fast as the process allows us and we're we're going full [0:48:31, 0:48:47]: full blown to to the it land development process. Um I have not developed uh designed or permitted anything in the city, so I don't know if that process is two months, four months, six months, eight months, but ultimately the project itself will take eight to ten months to develop. [0:48:47, 0:48:50]: And then it'll probably be about a three year build out. [0:48:51, 0:48:51]: So [0:48:52, 0:49:11]: If from today going forward you're probably looking at a total of four and a half to five years would be my guess for a finish out of one hundred and fifty one units. And that's why we're overly confident that the seventy five connectors should be completed unless something crazy happens and it it it would help relieve any additional traffic is generated. So [0:49:12, 0:49:32]: Thank you so much. I'm gonna now close the applicants portion and I'm now going to open the joint hearings uh for these three cases. If you would like to speak in favor of the annexation case, AX 2025-01, comprehensive plan amendment case, CP-2025-01, or rezoning case RZ-2021. [0:49:32, 0:49:38]: Um, if you would like to ask questions or make comments, please come forward at this time. Anyone in affirmative? [0:49:40, 0:49:42]: Anyone in affirmative? [0:49:42, 0:49:42]: Here [0:49:47, 0:49:52]: Awesome. Please make sure you sign one of the documents when you finish and come up to the podium, state your name and address. [0:49:54, 0:49:55]: You could do it after me. [0:50:21, 0:50:25]: Hello everyone. This is my first time no, this is my second time coming. [0:50:26, 0:50:46]: And I stay in Saint Margaret's village. And as he said that he came and talked to neighbors, I didn't get no nobody didn't come to my house. Only thing I got was a letter that came to my house. And I wanna know because my property sits on 118 and the land it is [0:50:46, 0:50:51]: There's a lot of land back there. I want to know it do I have to move. [0:50:52, 0:51:12]: Or you guys gonna buy some of the property or what? I don't know. Cause this is the fr I've been staying in this county thirty years. I'm gonna ask that you direct your comments to us. Oh and then the applicant had the opportunity to answer. Okay. Oh, I didn't know. Oh, please say your name and address, please. Sonia Cook 118 Saint St. Margaret Circle. [0:51:12, 0:51:18]: Are you against or for? [0:51:18, 0:51:25]: No, I'm not saying that I'm against it because well, I don't know. I take that back. [0:51:25, 0:51:28]: Because you know what, on flipping, it's a lot of traffic. [0:51:29, 0:51:34]: We don't have no traffic lights. Traffic be bag all the way back. [0:51:34, 0:51:48]: to 42. And then if it's an accident on 75, it's tremendous. So to bring in another community from where we already got a community on the other side. [0:51:49, 0:52:07]: That's a lot of traffic. And it's been a lot of major accidents on flipping. A lot of um we have some crime on on flipping as well. So I think that um y'all should really reconsider about the um [0:52:08, 0:52:10]: A votin' against it. [0:52:11, 0:52:31]: It's too much going on on Flippin' to have another hand over park to come there. I think that and then the prices of it. I mean Saint Margaret Village do have new houses that have moved over there. They built. And they got older houses. And that would depend on. [0:52:31, 0:52:33]: Decrease our value. [0:52:34, 0:52:39]: If they come. I don't know what he said. I think you say what he said, three hundred thousand? [0:52:40, 0:52:47]: Yeah, that'll decrease our values. Cause ours now is like three eighty to almost four hundred. [0:52:48, 0:52:50]: So I'm thinking that um [0:52:50, 0:53:10]: need to be some reconsideration for the people on flipping and uh hearing county. I mean I see a lot of property is moving, building a lot of homes. I don't see no homes for people with low income. It need to be people for people that's fifty, need somewhere to stay that they can be able to afford. [0:53:11, 0:53:18]: And these this right here, these people won't be able to afford this. It need to be somewhere that's affordable for single mothers. [0:53:19, 0:53:39]: See uh seniors they need somewhere that they can be able to afford to live in Henry County. So I really impose it. If that's what you were asking me, did I oppose it? Yes, I impose it. Okay. Thank you so much. Uh so let the record reflect oppose, not an uh on the side against is there anyone else that would like to [0:53:39, 0:53:41]: Yeah. [0:53:42, 0:53:45]: Anyone else that would like to speak against this development? [0:53:46, 0:53:51]: Anyone else that would like to speak against the development in these three cases? All right. [0:53:53, 0:53:55]: With that said, I will close the public hearing. [0:53:56, 0:53:59]: Uh the board will now make a vote on these three cases. [0:54:00, 0:54:06]: First, do I have a motion regarding annexation case, AX dash 25-01? [0:54:10, 0:54:11]: It's their motion. [0:54:19, 0:54:25]: I'd like to present a motion that we uh annex the property. Um [0:54:27, 0:54:30]: S C P twenty twenty five dash C R one. [0:54:31, 0:54:36]: No, annexation case. We're gonna start on annexation. Okay, you're gonna do the annexation. [0:54:46, 0:54:54]: Publication for analyzation is still it's uh number A X dash twenty twenty five dash zero one. [0:54:55, 0:54:58]: And you were making a motion to approve, correct? Is there a second? [0:54:58, 0:54:59]: Mr. Chairman, I second. [0:55:00, 0:55:07]: All right, it's been properly uh motioned by Commissioner Tibetau and second by Mr. Mitten. All those in favor please indicate by the sound of aye. [0:55:08, 0:55:09]: Uh [0:55:10, 0:55:20]: All those in opposed? All right. Three to one. Motion carries. Second, do I have a motion regarding comprehensive plan amendment case CP-2025-01? [0:55:26, 0:55:28]: I make a motion to approve. [0:55:28, 0:55:30]: All right, there's in a motion to approve by [0:55:31, 0:55:34]: Jesus. Vice Chair? Uh is there a second? [0:55:34, 0:55:36]: Uh Harold, I'll second it. [0:55:37, 0:55:44]: All right, it was second by Commissioner Thibodeau. All those in favor, please indicate by the sign of aye. Aye. Aye. All those opposed? [0:55:47, 0:55:48]: Are those bowls? [0:55:51, 0:55:52]: Did you vote commission? [0:55:52, 0:55:55]: I did. And if in favor. [0:55:56, 0:56:02]: Commissioner Min, did you vote as well? I aye. In favor? All right. Yes. Unanimous. [0:56:02, 0:56:05]: Mr. Chairman, who was um opposed on the annexation? [0:56:05, 0:56:08]: Uh one, Dumas. Dumas. [0:56:10, 0:56:16]: All right, last motion. Do I hear a motion regarding rezoning case R Z dash twenty twenty four dash O one? [0:56:19, 0:56:21]: Oh, don't get quiet now. [0:56:22, 0:56:34]: Mr. Chairman. Yes. I'll make the motion to approve. All right, I have a motion to move by Commissioner Mitten. Is there a second? A second. Second by Vice Chair. All those in favor, please indicate by the sound of aye. Aye. Any opposed? [0:56:34, 0:56:41]: Mr Chairman, are are the is the approval to adopt the staff's conditions or do they wanna add any conditions? [0:56:44, 0:56:47]: to the conditions in regards to the rezoning case, correct? [0:56:50, 0:56:59]: So I'm okay. I'm glad you said that. Thank you. I actually uh Do you like me to restate? Yes, but I actually have two requests for you, if that's okay. Um [0:57:00, 0:57:20]: I would like to do I would like to do the approval if you all do it with the conditions, but take out when it goes down to number two. Further, if security gates are installed, flight cameras shall also be installed. Change that language to flight cameras shall be installed. Period. And this is for the rezoning. For the rezoning. [0:57:20, 0:57:20]: Okay. [0:57:21, 0:57:25]: And I would like to add a condition also that we [0:57:27, 0:57:28]: Install a traffic light. [0:57:31, 0:57:31]: That is. [0:57:32, 0:57:41]: We wanna do uh you wanna add that as a condition? Yes. Okay, so we're gonna do uh flock cameras. And Mr. Chairman speak. Yes, sir. [0:57:41, 0:57:50]: Uh we need to make sure that property is completely fenced in. I didn't hear anything about anybody saying it's fenced in. You wanna add that as a condition? Yes. Sure. [0:57:55, 0:58:07]: They already have it. All right. Um I will now accept a motion with the uh for approval with the conditions set by staff and the updated conditions uh made by this commission. [0:58:07, 0:58:16]: I make a motion to approve. Yes, ma'am. The because there was already a motion and a second made, there needs to be a motion to amend the motion. [0:58:16, 0:58:18]: And then make a new motion. [0:58:18, 0:58:19]: All right, so motion to amend. [0:58:20, 0:58:26]: I make a motion to amend. All right. I have a motion to amend the current motion by the vice chair. Is there a s uh second? [0:58:26, 0:58:27]: Second it, Harold. [0:58:27, 0:58:42]: Second, Commissioner Thibodeau. All those in favor indicate by the sign of aye. Aye. All right. Unanimous. Now I will accept the new motion. Mr. Chairman, I make the motion for RZ 202501 with three stipulations to approve. [0:58:44, 0:58:45]: I say. [0:58:45, 0:58:57]: I have a motion uh to approve the rezoning case with the conditions set by the commission and staff. Uh there is a motion by Thibodeau. Uh sorry, Commissioner Mitten. Is there a second? [0:58:57, 0:58:58]: Arrow second it. [0:59:00, 0:59:06]: There's a second by Commissioner Thibodeau. All those in favor can indicate by the sign of aye. Aye. All those opposed? [0:59:07, 0:59:08]: Unanimous. [0:59:11, 0:59:31]: Alright, the next item on tonight's agenda pertains to a subdivision development proposal for parcel zero seventy-010201 at the southwest corner of Highway 42, North and Tunis Road. The sole case for this proposal is zoning modification case ZM twenty twenty-five-01. I will read [0:59:31, 0:59:51]: The case in the record after that we'll hear presentation from staff and then we'll open it up for a public hearing. Uh zoning modification case ZM-25-01, property located in Council District 5. Consideration of a request for a major rezoning modification at the southwest corner of Highway 42, North and Tunis Row to [0:59:51, 1:00:11]: Provide for modifications to the zoning conditions comprising development agreement for rezoning case RZ-03-45-S. The purpose is to allow the development of a single-family detached residential subdivision. The property owner is Highway Henry Highway 42. The applicant is Shaker Reddy. The property is located in Land. [1:00:11, 1:00:17]: And lot thirty one and thirty two of district seven and contains twenty seven point seven more or less acres. Staff please. [1:00:18, 1:00:26]: Yes, thank you, Chair. My name is Gore Linton, senior planner for the city of Stockbridge, and I'm here to present the case for ZM twenty five dash zero one. [1:00:29, 1:00:49]: The case facts. The applicant as mentioned is Shaker Reddy. The agent is Mr. Brian Mashburn who's here in attendance. Uh the address of the property is located at the southwest corner of Highway 42 and Tunis Road. The number of acres is twenty seven point two acres. Um the [1:00:48, 1:00:55]: Parcel ID number is zero seven zero-one twenty twenty-two zero zero one. [1:00:55, 1:01:15]: The current use of the property is vacant and undeveloped, but the layout of the proof subdivision is still visible through existing clearings. Uh the site is also heavily wooded and crossed by Wolf Creek with two existing access points from US Highway 23. The current zoning of the property SR and [1:01:15, 1:01:21]: And the proposed number of acres is two point one two units per acres, and the sign was posted on June fourth, twenty twenty five. [1:01:25, 1:01:45]: So this is the aerial photo of the property with the subject property shown here in yellow and uh with the red lines. And across from it is the Eagles Landing First Baptist Church slash Eagles Landing Christian Academy. We have several neighborhoods around the area, such as Highlands, Summit, Eagle, and Eagles Landing. [1:01:47, 1:01:55]: And this is the close-up aeri photo showing the existing layout of the uh gas and crossing. As you can see, the existing layout is shown here. [1:01:57, 1:01:58]: And also here as well. [1:02:01, 1:02:04]: And this is the flood map showing Wolf Creek. [1:02:10, 1:02:20]: And this is the existing road that leads to uh one of developments which is still uh shown to uh which we either side visit. [1:02:25, 1:02:29]: And this is when we posted the signs on June fourth, twenty twenty five. [1:02:32, 1:02:33]: We posted two signs. [1:02:36, 1:02:52]: And this is the joint zoning map of the property. As as you can see it's zone SR. And the surrounding uh zonings you have OI, LI, and PUD, and you also have MFR and C1. [1:02:54, 1:03:00]: And this is the surrounded property uh property tip, surrounded zoning property information. [1:03:01, 1:03:10]: And you also have M two in heavy industrial Henry County and you also have C three heavy commercial Henry County and then you also have M one Henry County as well. [1:03:12, 1:03:14]: And this is the joint future land use map. [1:03:17, 1:03:35]: And this is the surrounding future land use destinations. Uh the property to the north is high density suburban Henry County. To the south you have high density suburban Henry County and you have low density residential and low density mixed use and high density suburban. [1:03:37, 1:03:46]: This is the surrounding land use densities map and the subject property is shown here in red. And it is consistent with the surrounded uh subdivisions in the area. [1:03:48, 1:03:50]: And this is the overlay map of the parcel. [1:03:52, 1:03:54]: So in a a Parkway Mix East Overlay District? [1:03:57, 1:04:17]: And we now dive into the zoning history of the property. So the previous applicant, um, Triad Investment LSC originally submitted a rezoning request on August eight August 18, 2003 to rezone the subject property from M1 to RM2 Multifamily Residence District, Townhouse. [1:04:17, 1:04:37]: To construct one hundred and forty townhomes, which was known as Orleans Manor at Eagles Landing. On October 9, 2003, the Henry County Municipal Planning Commission reviewed the application and rendered recommended approval, subject to thirteen conditions. However, the Stockbridge City Council tabled the case during this [1:04:37, 1:04:57]: Meeting on November 8th, 2003, due to an active moratorium on multifamily developments within the city. On December 10, 2003, the applicant submitted a revised rezoning request and site plan to rezone the subject property from M1 to RN3 single-family residents to construct 73. [1:04:57, 1:05:10]: Single-family detached lots. And on June 10th, 2004, the Stockbridge Council approved the request with 14 conditions, and a development agreement was written and adopted soon after. [1:05:10, 1:05:30]: A preliminary site plan was prepared by Paragon Consulting Group and was submitted to Henry County in June 2005 as part of the development review process. This preliminary plan proposed 65 single-family lots, two designated amending areas, a loop walking trail, seven quality funds, and a five-foot setwalk throughout. [1:05:30, 1:05:31]: Throughout the subdivision. [1:05:33, 1:05:53]: And they also had uh setbacks of 40 in the front and and rear and ten on the side. And the plan received staff approval on July seventeenth, two thousand six. So the development of this site began around two thousand six-2007. However, the global financial crisis that occurred between two thousand seven and [1:05:53, 1:06:03]: two thousand nine resulted in the foreclosure of the site and eventually um the property was purchased by Henry Highway forty two in two thousand ten. [1:06:05, 1:06:10]: So this was the proposed town home that's was submitted on August eighth, eighteenth, two thousand three. [1:06:12, 1:06:17]: And then this was the proposed subdivision submitted on December tenth, two thousand three. [1:06:19, 1:06:25]: And then these were the conditions that were approved by Mayor Council on june fourteenth, two thousand four for the rezoning. [1:06:27, 1:06:33]: And these are the approved zoning conditions in the development agreement signed on june fourteenth, two thousand four. [1:06:35, 1:06:42]: And and and and it they had the s proposed subdivision as well on june fourteenth, two thousand four. That was included. [1:06:43, 1:06:51]: And this was the site plan that was submitted by Paragon Sunc Consultant that was approved by Henry County staff in July 17th of 2006. [1:06:54, 1:07:14]: And this was the original site development in two thousand six. And then the original development was in two thousand eight. But as mentioned, the uh the foreclosure occurred and that's when the property was um foreclosed, 2010. And if you look at Google Earth, you can s as mentioned, you can still see the layout of the subdivision. [1:07:18, 1:07:38]: Uh the development information, the the site the site plan that they submitted on June 10, 2005 features two cul-de-sacks and wine streets designed to enhance traffic circulation among the residents. The side plan also includes a many lot to the northeast corner of the property that is equipped with 16 amenity parking spaces, a playground. [1:07:38, 1:07:58]: A male kiosk, a pavilion with restrooms, and a pool. The property is divided by Wolf Creek, which runs through the center of the site and is protected by both a stream buffer and floodplain area. These natural features divide the site into two main sections with 33 lots located on the western side of the creek and 26 located. [1:07:58, 1:08:18]: On the eastern side of the creek. The Lassa houses range in size from 72 to 12,000 square feet. The site plan also includes three quality ponds, which are designed to treat the stormwater runoff before it enters Will Creek. In addition, the site plan includes both drainage and utility easements, which allows for the maintenance and installation of [1:08:18, 1:08:38]: Infrastructure. Uh the the currently the property is zoned SR, which is designed for low to medium destiny neighborhoods. The side plan shows a 10-foot front yard setback, 30 in the rear and in the center half side yard setback. Two entry points are located along Highway 42, providing direct access. [1:08:38, 1:08:58]: Access to the to this to development from this major artillery road. One entrance is located in the northwest corner of the site, serving the 33 lots on the west side of Wool Creek, while the second entrance is located towards the northeast section of the site, providing access to the 26th lots that are located on the eastern side of Wool Creek. [1:08:58, 1:09:18]: entrance access points in the neighborhood's internal street network. According to the letter from the Henry County Water Authority, which was received on April 29, 2025, public water and service is available for the proposed development. However, the service provision is contingent upon the repermitting of the gas and crossing development. [1:09:19, 1:09:30]: So these are the requested changes to the development agreement. Um condition four was that one third of the single story home shall be a minimum of twenty five hundred square feet. [1:09:30, 1:09:47]: Um instead they want to change it to one third of the single story home shall be a minimum of twenty four hundred square feet, and the reason being is uh a two thousand a twenty four hundred square foot home may not fit on all lots. And on condition six, the home exteriors uh included [1:09:48, 1:09:52]: Three sided brick stone or seventy five brick stone. [1:09:53, 1:10:11]: Instead, they wanna change that to the home front of the home shall be a mixture of fifty percent brick or stone and hardy plank or cementous fiber siding with a brick or stone water table on the two sides of the home. And the reason is to be markable and compete with a similar new development site in the area. [1:10:12, 1:10:32]: Condition 10 was that the hardwood street plant hardwood street trees required throughout the development. They want to change that to shall only be required along Highway 23 slash 42. And the reason is the distance between the front exterior and the street is limited. Uh no condition number twelve was that no minimum landscape. [1:10:32, 1:10:52]: Strip with between the sidewalk and the curb specific specified. Instead, the landscape strip between the curb and the four-foot sidewalk shall be minimum of 24 inches along all public streets. And the reason being is the amount of space is needed for the utilities. Condition number 14: Council approval required for all. [1:10:52, 1:11:03]: Home plans they want to change that to home plan approval shall be issued by the director of community planning or other staff prior to the issuance of approval of final plat. [1:11:03, 1:11:23]: And that's basically for to streamline the approval and allow administrative level review. And finally to condition number twenty, which is two amenity areas with extensive requirements, trail, pavilion, bathhouse, divided playground, pools, grills, trash parking. And said they want to have one amenity lodge that includes a pool, cabana, playground. [1:11:23, 1:11:30]: and parking lot. And that's to further clarify the development agreement's vague description of the development amenities package. [1:11:34, 1:11:40]: So we also reviewed the side plan uh comparison we reviewed uh t between two thousand five and twenty twenty five. [1:11:46, 1:11:55]: And this is the site plan shown here. Uh over here, it has the amenity slot, and it has 16 amenity parking spaces. [1:11:56, 1:12:05]: And a male kiosk centralized kiosk is located here where my cursor is. And they also have open space and the menu lot. [1:12:07, 1:12:27]: And this is the comparison analysis uh with the site plans. Uh they went from 65 to 59. Uh the track one or North Creek is they're both twenty-nine, and the south of Wool Creek was uh 2005 was 36, now it's twenty twenty-nine. Uh the minimum lot size went from ten thousand square feet. [1:12:27, 1:12:47]: To a mixture of 10,005 square feet, and some exceeding 40,000 square feet. And these are the setbacks. They the setbacks did change a bit. They had the same entrances, the sidewalks, 5'7 walks throughout. As far as our walking trail, they did. [1:12:47, 1:12:53]: Did have a walking trail in two thousand and five. Um they're open to keeping the walking trail. [1:12:55, 1:13:01]: And they also included a mail kiosk which was not included in the two thousand five site plan, um, but is it is in here. [1:13:03, 1:13:08]: And the renderings, these are the renderings and they wanna build it similar to the Wine Creek development. [1:13:13, 1:13:17]: This is the clubhouse. This is c the male kiosk and this is the clubhouse. [1:13:20, 1:13:40]: Um staff analysis. The request to up the as far as the reasonableness of the applicant's request, the request to update the original development agreement for gasoline crossing is w reasonable because the plan is over twenty years old and no homes were ever built due to the thousand eight crisis crisis financial crisis. The changes reflect upon modern [1:13:40, 1:14:00]: Houses trends like slightly smaller home sizes, new exterior materials, and updated lands landscaping. The updates don't change the overall plan but add clarity and new features like a male kiosk. Suitability for the proposed development. The revised site plan and changes are a good fit for the SR zoning district, reducing the home size from 25%. [1:13:59, 1:14:19]: To 2400 square feet for some home matches nearby neighborhoods, landscaping updates such as limiting street trees to Highway 42 and adding a 24-inch utility street with improved safety and access. And the new plan also adds a pool, pavilion, playground, restrooms, and a male kiosk. And these updates [1:14:19, 1:14:39]: Help move the project forward while keeping a strong design. As far as the effects on the surrounding properties and infrastructure, the proposed changes are not expected to harm nearby properties or city infrastructure. The site is surrounded by a mixture of industrial, commercial, church, school, and residential uses. Two entry points. [1:14:39, 1:14:43]: One two entrances on Highway forty two were served to development [1:14:44, 1:14:50]: Uh which had a traffic count of three fifteen hundred, three hundred vehicles per day uh in twenty twenty three. [1:14:53, 1:15:03]: And stormwater will be handled by quality pods and the developer is open to including the walking trail, as mentioned. And the density, as mentioned, is balanced with your surrounding subdivisions. [1:15:04, 1:15:15]: And staff recommends approval um with conditions. Um one third of the one story home should have a minimum of twenty four hundred square feet of the heated space rather than originally [1:15:16, 1:15:30]: Required 2500 square feet. The front elevation of all homes shall include shall consist of a mixture of 50% brick or stone and hardy plank or cementous siding with a brick or stone water table along both sides of the home. [1:15:31, 1:15:51]: Three, Hardwood Street Street shall be required only along Highway forty two. Four, a minimum twenty four inch Nancy script shall be maintained between the back of the curb and the four foot sidewalk along all public streets. Five, one designated amenities include a swimming pool, cabana or covered pavilion for. [1:15:51, 1:16:11]: Playground parking area. Six, a centralized mailbox makes sure it serves the entire development. Seven, the developers shall comply with all other requirements of the approved zoning case, RZ 345-S, including the original development agreement adopted on June 14, 2004. [1:16:11, 1:16:31]: four. Eight. Flock safety cameras shall be installed at each entrance of the subdivision. Nine. Attain foot sidewalk shall be installed along the highway forty two frontage of the subject property, and ten. The subject property shall be developed in substantial conformance with the revised site plan's title Gatson Subdivision Site Plan report. [1:16:31, 1:16:35]: Prepared by Acura Engineer and dated ju tenth, twenty twenty five. [1:16:36, 1:16:37]: And that concludes my presentation. [1:16:38, 1:16:40]: Thank you, Gordon. Are there any questions for staff on the board? [1:16:42, 1:16:54]: Yes, I have a question. Excuse me. There is railroad tracks behind that property. Uh what what are we planning on doing this for? Is uh some type of sound barrier? [1:16:55, 1:17:01]: Oh, that's something to be considered. Uh I'm just putting it out there to see if we have anything related to that. [1:17:03, 1:17:07]: Let me let me confirm with staff on that we have a a quiet zone in the city, correct? [1:17:08, 1:17:28]: It's just for downtown only though. Oh uh the applicant will ha will we'll have to address Mr. Thibodeau's question as far as the sound barrier, but there are no requirements uh in the code for a sound barrier. Uh but the quiet zone is just downtown. Gotcha. Um I'll let the applicant ask that. Um commissioner. [1:17:28, 1:17:35]: Thank you. Any other questions for staff? All right. Is the applicant present? Is the applicant present? [1:17:36, 1:17:38]: Please come up and say your name and address for us, please. [1:17:41, 1:17:43]: David. [1:17:45, 1:17:51]: My name is Brian Marshburn and uh doing this on behalf of Shaker Ready. Uh [1:17:52, 1:17:54]: Thank you. That's a bit better. [1:17:55, 1:18:15]: Uh Gordon, thank you for such a great presentation. I think Gordon hit all the highlights. I'm not gonna really review what he just went over in quite detail. Um basically the neighborhood was developed, it failed. Um it was purchased by Shakerady and a group of investors. [1:18:15, 1:18:20]: Um he's held it for a while. [1:18:20, 1:18:23]: We intend to redevelop the property. Um [1:18:23, 1:18:25]: Basically the [1:18:26, 1:18:28]: The current entitlements are already there. [1:18:28, 1:18:48]: We're only amending or modifying the zoning that's in place. So, really, the requests that we have in this list are modifications to the existing development agreement that was approved in 2004. So I'm not really I'm really making it better, to be honest with you. Uh our our request is to reduce the number of locks. [1:18:48, 1:18:56]: Lots because the lots that were previously uh proposed with the Gadsons Crawlson site plan that was prepared. [1:18:57, 1:18:58]: [4739.2, 4759.2]: Some of those lots aren't even buildable. Uh they're quite small. And um the reason for the request for the drop down from 2500 square feet to 2400 square feet is math. Six times four is twenty-four. It's a sixty by forty ranch style home. [1:19:19, 1:19:33]: won't fit easily on a sixty foot lot with seven and a half or ten foot setbacks on either side. Therefore, we asked for a slight reduction from a twenty five hundred square foot to twenty four hundred square foot to fit on some of the larger lots. Um [1:19:34, 1:19:36]: Uh the flock camera we're [1:19:36, 1:19:56]: Okay with that. That's something new and new technology. That's great. Uh the only thing that I would ask for for some grace from the staff recommendations would be for the ten foot wide sidewalk along Highway 41. And there is uh proposed, no, it's not proposed, it's already in the budget, the widening of Highway 42, uh, which will occur. [1:19:56, 1:19:59]: [4799.4, 4811.7]: And we were more than happy to prepare the sidewalks all the way up to Highway Forty Two. But right now there's nowhere for them to connect to. So essentially it'll be a ten foot sidewalk to nowhere. [1:20:11, 1:20:16]: Um we're happy to you know work by putting in some uh crossing [1:20:16, 1:20:23]: information to get from one side of the highway to the other because we do anticipate people walking from this community over to Eagles Annie Baptist Church. [1:20:24, 1:20:25]: Oh [1:20:26, 1:20:29]: That's all I have. I'm happy to answer your questions. [1:20:30, 1:20:35]: You refuse to put in a um ten foot sidewalk you would have problems. [1:20:36, 1:20:39]: Have problems at council? Yeah, there's a [1:20:40, 1:20:53]: railway master plan and they're requiring all uh new developments to have a ten foot wide sidewalk along the frontage. Even if even if it appears to go nowhere, the the theory is that somebody else would will one day develop something that would eventually connect. [1:20:54, 1:20:57]: Could we make it smaller, like a five foot wide sidewalk? [1:20:59, 1:21:05]: Okay. For so so as long as so long as I do it on the subject property. For for the subject property. [1:21:09, 1:21:09]: Okay. [1:21:12, 1:21:17]: It it just it doesn't connect to anywhere on the north side. It's a recycling facility. [1:21:20, 1:21:21]: So be it. [1:21:27, 1:21:28]: I I will [1:21:29, 1:21:40]: Okay. I d I just it doesn't I mean it's just sometimes I wonder who put these uh sidewalks to nowhere programs in place. Maybe it was a concrete lobbyist. [1:21:42, 1:21:43]: That's a funny joke, sorry. [1:21:43, 1:21:45]: Any other questions from the board for the applicant? [1:21:47, 1:21:59]: Uh yes, I didn't get any response. Uh well I didn't ask the question. What about uh railroad tracks in the rear as was uh some type of sound barrier? Do you have anything set up for that? [1:21:59, 1:22:00]: I do not. [1:22:02, 1:22:07]: Uh that's something I would consider because you know there's a train that passed in the rear of the property. [1:22:08, 1:22:20]: On Winding Creek subdivision, which is the long Campground Road on both sides of Campground Road, there's a whole nother subdivision that was just built on the north side of Campground Road. There's no sound barrier there, nor is there one on camp on uh [1:22:21, 1:22:24]: Uh Winding Creek, nor is there one on Eagles Landing. [1:22:26, 1:22:46]: There's a large berm that separates the two neighborhoods. So there's a berm that goes up to Eagles Landing, there's a berm that goes up to this subject property, and the railroad is in a valley that goes down through there. Um to be quite frank, the real really bottom line of us continuing to pursue a residential development here is the [1:22:46, 1:23:06]: The city uh staff about five, six years ago, long before COVID, is how long I've been working with this property, uh, did not want to see us revert the zoning back to industrial. We did have a lumber yard that wanted to go here. So uh therefore we're trying to make the property marketable and [1:23:06, 1:23:11]: And we kindly request these slight modifications to the existing zoning. [1:23:13, 1:23:20]: But, you know, I understand your your thought process with the sound barrier, but that's a pretty significant improvement. [1:23:21, 1:23:31]: It is, but it's something to consider as we move forward in in the future uh as far as billing homes and having people come in and uh [1:23:32, 1:23:50]: set up shop, but at the same time sometimes people come in and they find out that, hey, I didn't know the train was passing back there. You know, of course that's not something you're probably gonna be telling individuals when they move in. That's just something I'm saying to consider, if nothing else. Understand. [1:23:51, 1:23:52]: Thank you, Commissioner May. [1:23:53, 1:24:09]: Commission? Yes, I have a few questions. Um so HOA. Plans for an HOA? Yes. Okay. And in the covenant of the HOA, understand the city has a cap of ten percent on rentals leases with the Yeah, fee simple sold properties. Okay. Um [1:24:10, 1:24:24]: Any community engagement? I know that this is kind of a longgoing thing, but now that it's kind of reinvigorated some life into it, um letters gone out to the community, surrounding communities, uh community forum, speak with the local residents. [1:24:24, 1:24:44]: Uh we you know, we had a community forum meeting uh several weeks ago. I was here to present. Uh unfortunately we sent the letters and I don't think anyone appeared. Okay. So Okay. Um the the pro project kind of ice is kind of an island really. Um [1:24:44, 1:25:04]: You you don't have any residential right there. Uh there is residential diagonal across the street. Um, but I think this subdivision would be somewhat uniform to what's already there across the street. Okay. I I was questioning because it looked like there might have been residences to the west. Um it would basically butt up [1:25:04, 1:25:11]: to the to the there's there's there's a good bit of distance between there. I mean they're not gonna go walking through there. There's a railroad track. [1:25:13, 1:25:26]: Uh one last question. So um assuming that it it moved forward and went through city council approval, timelines for uh actually turning of dirt starting. Sure. Um the land disturbance permits expired. [1:25:26, 1:25:46]: So therefore the developer, Shaker, would have to uh resubmit development plans to be and the the previous plan that was approved, the old site plan, the lots are too narrow. So all of that gets changed. I mean, in the eyes of the city, all that would be a new submittable. [1:25:46, 1:25:52]: So that you're probably talking I don't I don't foresee it happening until March. [1:25:53, 1:25:55]: Twenty six. Twenty six. Okay. [1:25:57, 1:26:17]: Right. No further questions. Thank you. Thank you. Let me ask a quick question. Is the subdivision split because of the creek? Yes. So is there is there an entrance on both sides? Yes. Okay. So Yeah, and the reason that we request to reduce the the two amenities packages is it there's in the old development agreement it was really vague and it just said [1:26:17, 1:26:37]: Um an amenities package shall s serve each section. So I as we talked with uh Ryan, the development director here, it just seems like it would be a burden for a small neighborhood like that to have to support two amenities packages. So instead of having two pools and two clubhouses and [1:26:37, 1:26:57]: Well I think the package never really required a pool. You could have done because I saw you we have on here a pool, a park, right? All in one section. You could have split up park on this side, pool on this. [1:26:57, 1:27:17]: laid out um why the the amenities are all on the right side of the of the uh entire development, whether it's split or not. And then you have your uh your mailboxes if you're gonna do centralized mailboxes all the time. I know I I thought about that. I mean it was an afterthought during the meeting, but we're we would be willing to move uh I mean [1:27:16, 1:27:23]: I mean, a kiosk for a mailbox isn't that expensive. So we could put another kiosk over on the other side. Absolutely. Great. [1:27:23, 1:27:30]: Yeah. So I could we could put another set over by the pool. Okay. Yeah. That's fine. I I [1:27:30, 1:27:33]: Now would you all also be okay with Go ahead. [1:27:34, 1:27:53]: Uh possibly keeping the pool on the right side, but putting the playground on the opposite side? If there were room, so the the north side of the first slot when you pull in the neighborhood is uh misdrawn. So I could put a playground there. Gotcha. I mean it's not me doing it, just put it on the drawing. So yeah. Any other questions from the board? [1:27:54, 1:27:58]: But I I mean I prefer to keep it all in together if it's possible. I mean it [1:28:00, 1:28:01]: Any other questions from the board? [1:28:02, 1:28:20]: All right. Thank you, sir. Thank you. I'm gonna now open this up uh for a public hearing. Is there anyone here to speak in favor of this mo uh this case? Anyone to speak in favor? Hearing none, anyone here to speak against this case? Anyone here to speak against this case? [1:28:21, 1:28:24]: Yes, sir. Please make come up to the podium, state your name and address. [1:28:28, 1:28:29]: Make sure you come to the mic for me. [1:28:32, 1:28:43]: It looks it looks like it's a good project. Say your name and address. Uh Clay Henderson, uh seven oh two Summerbrook Court. I'm immediately across the railroad tracks from this this development. [1:28:43, 1:29:03]: And uh just had some some questions. Uh and the uh the biggest thing I think for me is uh security concern. Um we have industrial behind us across the track, and we have well I guess it's it's really some form of industrial all the way down. And [1:29:03, 1:29:10]: The old road, if you look at the m the map on the if you're facing the project on forty-two on the right side, that old road. [1:29:10, 1:29:19]: passage l used to cross the railroad track there. That used to be the crossing and it comes into my backyard. So there is um [1:29:20, 1:29:30]: arise of some sort, but my concern is having people in that community. You know, sidewalks are so important because of people walking. I get that. [1:29:30, 1:29:37]: I'm concerned about'em walking down the track and then that if now not to assume that anybody's evil minded. [1:29:38, 1:29:41]: But that once you cross that railroad track. [1:29:41, 1:29:42]: That is a very tempting area. [1:29:43, 1:29:55]: You know, and I've just that's a that's a concern for me. And I I agree with Mr. Thibodeau, I think we oughta have a a buffer wall about thirteen, fourteen feet high where nobody can cross it. [1:29:55, 1:29:57]: I say that lightheartedly, but I [1:29:57, 1:29:59]: Сірслі, а до концер. [1:30:00, 1:30:20]: about the back access of that property into our community there because it is an easy access. You know, right, we've got children that play right there and and um they're very expensive homes. You know, the the home um immediately um to the right of me just sold last year from [1:30:19, 1:30:35]: million three and that's you know I just think it's a I don't want to say targeting and not that anybody would but I think maybe having some um it's always a concern with the number of renters potentially and uh they don't take care of um [1:30:35, 1:30:55]: I don't want to say they don't take care of they don't have the same mindset as a homeowner, you know, there in the neighborhood. So um that was just one one one thought, just uh to consider some sort of uh and I don't want to raise any any additional cost for them, but I I just a thought for safety or you know security on the [1:30:55, 1:31:15]: Backside where that track is between there and the neighborhood. Um, and then um we I think you mentioned rentals, um, maybe capping that at 10% or something like that. Um, that would be fun. And um so the the revision from one-third of the of the homes from 2500 feet. [1:31:15, 1:31:29]: to 2400 feet. What about I never did see anything and I may have just missed this. What about the other two thirds? I mean is that a minimum throughout the entire community? Uh I never saw a reference that addressed the other two thirds. [1:31:33, 1:31:34]: Yeah. [1:31:45, 1:32:03]: Just the map that won't fit on the setbacks on the plot. Okay. Some of these lots that get at put together, they went they were screwy to be honest with you. They were like a foot wide. And I don't know what they were thinking, but they just put as many numbered units of on the plat as they possibly can get in there. Right. And and [1:32:08, 1:32:28]: So I I guess my question, and I'll rephrase it, is the minimum square footage of twenty four hundred, is that overall?'Cause it was only mentioned as to be two thirds of the property of the properties would be a minimum of twenty four hundred. Uh my my my question is there's still another a remaining two third that I don't know [1:32:28, 1:32:34]: You know, for that lance. So I guess that was my question. [1:32:34, 1:32:37]: So that's a minimum throughout. Okay. [1:32:37, 1:32:40]: So that's really my only my only question was just the the [1:32:41, 1:33:01]: to to consider something and I don't know what that resolution is, but just some something along that road track just as a a protective buffer between both communities, you know. So I mean these people wanna have some safety coming and going both ways, I think. So thank you. Yes sir. Thank you. As you leave, could you please fill out that form there and hand it over to staff. [1:33:01, 1:33:07]: Uh is there anyone else that would like to speak against in this case? All right, I'm gonna close the public hearing. [1:33:10, 1:33:29]: Mr. Chairman. Yes, sir. I just want to clarify a statement that was made. So my my request to the developer was I understand the city's cap on rentals is ten percent. I was asking for an HOA uh amendment in the covenant that would actually restrict rentals. If the uh applicant would be [1:33:30, 1:33:35]: Uh okay with that. Is the applicant okay with that? Okay. Um I'm gonna [1:33:35, 1:33:52]: Okay. Uh I do all right. We've closed the public hearing, so now the board will now take a vote. Uh I know we have some staff recommendations and so I actually have some questions on that for the s for the board. Um I definitely wanna make sure [1:33:54, 1:34:01]: Item number three, hardwood street trees uh shall be required only along the highway. Is that the current trees there? [1:34:06, 1:34:07]: Okay. Um [1:34:11, 1:34:30]: So I'd actually like for the board to probably reconsider that to actually have hardwood trees throughout the entire development, just to have some environmental justice and some environment and friendly opportunities there. Um uh number six, the applicant has already agreed to add a centralized mailbox on both sides since the development is split. [1:34:32, 1:34:44]: And then we already talked about the ten foot ten foot wide sidewalk, which is really non negotiable on our side as that's our comprehensive plan. But at this time I'll make a mo I'll accept a motion in regards to the zoning modification case. [1:34:44, 1:35:02]: I have one more question to ask. You know, I noticed we never say anything about uh pissing the property in. You're right. I was just about to say that. Yeah. It's right here too. You know, I mean uh he's talking security. I'm looking at security too. Uh we need to create some form of uh [1:35:03, 1:35:06]: divide against any uh [1:35:06, 1:35:15]: Elements that shouldn't be there. Let me just say that. And to come in the front with the flyer camera, that's one thing. But we got the rear and we got the sides. [1:35:18, 1:35:36]: So I will ac I'll accept or if you would like to add that as a a condition to add um fenced in the backing and the sides of the development. Yes, sir. Uh is there any more discussion in regards to it? I'll now accept a motion. Uh you want me to reread it? [1:35:36, 1:35:38]: Okay. [1:35:38, 1:35:42]: Well we don't have'em. Can I can I face it on those? [1:35:43, 1:35:45]: I don't know, attorney, can he say something now that we're voting? [1:35:47, 1:35:53]: Uh the applicant is asking I know we're now in the discussion of voting. Can the applicant come back since I closed the hearing? [1:36:03, 1:36:05]: I'll allow it. Come on up. [1:36:09, 1:36:29]: Thank you. So the property, the topography of the property, it goes up on the uh call it the south side of the property where the uh that's fluid drive. There's uh industrial building back there. There's actually two industrial buildings back there and a vacant industrial lot that fronts on to 42. [1:36:29, 1:36:34]: There's a school there and in front of there there's a commercial lot and it goes down. [1:36:34, 1:36:37]: And then on the north side it goes back up. [1:36:37, 1:36:56]: And along the back of the property there's a berm. So my proposal would be, if it you're okay with this, would be to put a install a fence along the back of the property and come up maybe say fifty feet into the back corners of the uh back corner lots to go all the way across the flat the [1:36:57, 1:37:00]: The railroad tracks and then back up. And then if uh [1:37:01, 1:37:06]: the residents wanted to enfence the rest of the neighborhood or the HOA wanted to do that, they could do that on their own. [1:37:08, 1:37:08]: Okay, G. [1:37:09, 1:37:13]: That then that would you would have this barrier that you couldn't just go walk across the railroad tracks there. [1:37:14, 1:37:18]: Oh, I would ask the uh homeowner that lives back there, how does he feel about that? [1:37:20, 1:37:21]: In the rear. [1:37:21, 1:37:22]: No more interview. [1:37:23, 1:37:24]: Thumbs up or damn. [1:37:26, 1:37:26]: Yeah. [1:37:27, 1:37:45]: 'Cause none of the other neighborhoods that uh join this railroad track have a fence. So Okay. Thank you so much, sir. Thank you. Uh I mean you can if you can make that suggestion. I mean, whether city council is up to not, you can put a condition on there to require a fence along the would you like to move forward with your condition? [1:37:45, 1:37:57]: Yes, I I'd like to have that condition, but also what he said, then uh if we need to have the HOA uh put the rest of it up, that would be a condition also if needed. [1:37:58, 1:38:11]: So would you like your condition to be the first one you said, which is um fencing it in around the sides and the back, or what the applicant just suggested, which would be a fifty foot um fence around the back of the railroad in the HOA? [1:38:11, 1:38:22]: I would go with the applicant and then uh also uh put some requirements through the HOA if they haven't one that they can finish the rest of it. [1:38:24, 1:38:44]: I think that's fair. Gotcha. Do you want me to read those back in for you? You would have to um I don't think you can put stipulation on the HOA. You would have to put that that um those conditions on the developer. He would have he would have to install that fence during the construction phase. Well we can go with what he said, but at the end of the day he would have control over the HOA. [1:38:44, 1:38:53]: yet because their votes would would trump anybody else while they building the homes anyway. So he still could put up the fence uh through the HOA. [1:38:55, 1:38:55]: [5935.6, 5937.4]: [1:38:58, 1:39:18]: We'll do it the way the applicant s uh wrote how we wrote it out. I'm gonna read them back to staff so that y'all can have the conditions amended by the um by the commission. Uh the first one stays the same, the second one stays the same, the third one would be hardwood street trees to go throughout the entire development, not just along the highway. Uh the fourth and fifth stay the same. [1:39:18, 1:39:36]: Number six is two mailboxes on each side of uh the development. Seven, eight, nine, and ten stays the same. We want to add a condition, which would be number eleven, which will be for the development to install a fence, a fifty foot fence around the back, around the railroad portion of the development. [1:39:38, 1:39:39]: And the HOA will decide the rest. [1:39:47, 1:39:52]: I was going to say that we we've closed public hearing. Um but [1:39:54, 1:39:56]: Are we good, Steph? [1:39:59, 1:39:59]: We get [1:40:05, 1:40:25]: Sorry. Um so we have just just three. Number three, uh hardwood trees throughout the entire development, not just on highway forty two. Number six, which is two centralized mailbox banks, not not one, one on each side of development, and then uh adding a a condition which [1:40:25, 1:40:45]: Which is number eleven, will be number eleven, which is which is to install a fifty foot fence uh to block the railroad in the back of the development. Ms. Chairman. Yes, sir. Unless I heard incorrectly, I don't think that's what he said. Is that not what he said? [1:40:45, 1:40:54]: Fifty feet on the sides. So it's up fifty feet on the sides. Okay, let me correct that. Eleven is install a fence on the back and go up fifty feet on the sides. [1:40:55, 1:40:57]: Thank you for that. Sure. [1:41:01, 1:41:18]: Commissioners, I will now accept a motion. Yes, sir. Mr. Chairman, I make the motion that we approve ZM twenty twenty-five-01 with staff conditions including changes and uh condition number eleven for security fencing. [1:41:18, 1:41:26]: All right, I have a motion to approve the rezoning modification case with staff and commission recommendations conditions. Taking it, Harold. [1:41:26, 1:41:35]: All right, so motion by uh Commissioner Mitten, a second by Commissioner Tibbetal. All those in favor indicate by the sound of aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? So moved. [1:41:37, 1:41:41]: The next item on tonight's agenda is project updates. Ryan, do we have any project updates? [1:41:41, 1:42:00]: No project updates. Any staff updates? Well uh we'll be uh coming up with RFP to uh update some things in the UDC uh within a couple of weeks. So that's one project that'll be ongoing. UDC updates. Okay. Looking forward to that. Uh any staff comments? [1:42:00, 1:42:07]: Yes, I would like to uh introduce our new staff person, chief planner. She's from Houston, Texas. Her name is Miss Veronica Green. [1:42:07, 1:42:10]: Welcome to the team, Ms. Green. [1:42:10, 1:42:30]: Looking forward to what you can do for us. Next item on the agenda is board comments. Do I have any board comments? I have a few. Um, first, I want to thank our staff for a successful half-year mark. We're making a lot of progress on this commission with you all. Um, secondly, I want to wish a happy birthday to our vice chair. [1:42:30, 1:42:50]: And thank you for your willingness to serve on your birthday. So happy birthday to you. Um and then third, Ryan and I and Ms. Zenovia worked hard to get this commission finally some t-shirts or some polos for the commission. So if you can at the end of the meeting after adjournment, go see Gordon to pick up your shirt. Um at this time it is now 8:13, and I'll accept a motion. [1:42:50, 1:42:51]: Motion to adjourn. [1:42:52, 1:43:03]: Mr. Chairman, I move with join the meeting. All right, it's motion. Uh second, Harrell. Motion by Mr. Doomas, second by Ms. Thibodeau. All those in favor indicate by the sound of aye. Aye. All right. So moved. Have a good night, everyone.

--- title: Work Session Meeting date: 2025-06-25 source: 2025-06-25_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:01:56, 0:02:04]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, I have 604, so I'd like to call our council work session June twenty-fifth to order. [0:02:05, 0:02:25]: Please of Stockbridge. We pray, Lord God, for every resident. We pray for all of our citizens, our constituents. We pray, Lord God, for the safety. We pray, Lord God, for their well-being. Now, Lord God, we actually bless this council, bless the staff of this city, and allow us, Lord God, to come together, Lord God, with the best resources and the best ideas possible so that Stockbridge could be the best place in the world. [0:02:25, 0:02:45]: the world. This is our prayer in the matchless name of your son Jesus Christ we pray. Let us all say Amen. Amen. Pledge allegiance. Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:02:45, 0:02:47]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:02:49, 0:03:00]: Good afternoon. Afternoon. Mayor Ford. Present. Mayor Pro Tem Gantt. Let the record reflect Mayor Pro Tem Gantt is not in attendance. Council Member Thomas. [0:03:00, 0:03:14]: Let the record replay. Councilmember Thomas is not in attendance. Councilmember Bear. Present. Council Member Barber. Present. Council Member Alexander. Present. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate that. Council I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:03:14, 0:03:34]: So move. Is there a second? Second. Okay, Mr. Alexander. Mr. Barrett all in favor, please indicate. Thank you very much. Appreciate that. Public comments. All persons wishing to speak on public comment must sign in on the city of Stockbridge or sign in with the city clerk prior to the beginning of the meeting. You must sign your name, address, phone number, and be able to address address the mayor and council for three minutes. [0:03:34, 0:03:53]: The accused speakers must respect all members of the elected body, officials, staff, definition, unruliness, and swearing will not be tolerated while meetings are in session. Madam Clerk, we have um individuals who want to give uh public comments. Okay, thank you. [0:03:59, 0:04:00]: Your name and address, please. [0:04:04, 0:04:24]: Mr. Turner, two five four warblerway, stop bridge. Again, this is not personal, this is business. Um at the end end of the meeting on june ninth, mister Harold Young's contract was terminated for breach of contract. The breach was not disclosed. How was Mr. Young's contract breached? What did he do? [0:04:24, 0:04:34]: And what did he not do? There were several individual companies who stated they worked with mister Young. What is the status of their contracts with the city of Stockbridge in the amphitheater? [0:04:36, 0:04:56]: Who authorized the payments to Harold Young for 2022, 23, 24, and 25? There are pending open record requests for amphitheater records. Who is filing those requests? I mean who is filling those requests and who determines what is redacted? The information presented at the City Council meeting last week regarding [0:04:56, 0:04:59]: [300.0, 320.0]: It said that the premiums increased more than two hundred thousand dollars, but it was not explained. Why does the city why doesn't the city know how many vehicles were purchased? Who is responsible for knowing what taxpayers money has purchased? How do we know if everything purchased with the taxpayer money is being accounted for? What is going on with the money? [0:05:20, 0:05:33]: with the management of the city and where is the oversight? Through public records, we know that the amphitheater went over budget for twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four. What other departments went over budget? [0:05:35, 0:05:55]: For these same years. Is this why the millage rates was assessed? To make up for overspending for these concerts, is this what you all consider to be good stewards of citizens' money? There needs to be accountability here. Over the years, Councilwoman Barber has pleaded with the council to provide [0:05:55, 0:06:05]: Provide financial reports and a forensic audit and her requests have been ignored. Go back and watch the tapes as I did, and the council instead censored her for speaking up and speaking out. [0:06:10, 0:06:30]: A council member made a post on NextDare app about a previous show being sold out. What does sold out mean? If taxpayers are paying vendors a hundred percent service fee fee, that includes parking artist fee, where does the money from ticket sales and parking go? Does the money from ticket sales offset the daily overhead? If we pay the vendor L Parks 100%, [0:06:30, 0:06:50]: percent vendor's fee for parking, then where does the money go for the guests who pay for parking? Does the money from ticket sales and parking sales go to the City of Stockbridge general fund account? Who oversees the end-of-day breakdown for the expenses and sales for each event at the amphitheater? There was a show postponed due to weather. I do remember [0:06:50, 0:07:04]: Recall Councilmember Barber asking that there be a clause written in the contract that states artists should not be paid a hundred percent for a rain delay or an act of God. Are we paying these artists a hundred percent again? Was this money in the budget? [0:07:06, 0:07:10]: Wanna ask the council for more time? I'll ask the council, sir. Council, you wanna give him more time? [0:07:14, 0:07:25]: Yes, yes. So it's guess I'm consistent. I just three minutes is the room, that's my consistency. Okay. All right. No, sir. I don't have three votes. Thank you. Thank you. [0:07:26, 0:07:28]: All right, uh who's next? [0:07:43, 0:07:43]: Okay. [0:07:47, 0:07:55]: Hi, Connie Snow, four twenty six Chase Marion Way. I'd like to give Paul Turner the rest of my time to complete his comment. Thank you. [0:07:56, 0:08:03]: Ma'am, you have three minutes. You're not gonna be able to transfer to the other. [0:08:03, 0:08:11]: I don't recall that at all. Now I'll tell you what I will do. Pratturney. You have any you have any legal guidance on that? [0:08:20, 0:08:22]: Excuse me? Just a moment. Thank you. [0:08:30, 0:08:34]: We have that's the rule that we're following, we're consistent. That's the rule. [0:08:38, 0:08:41]: [521.2, 522.3]: Uh understand? [0:09:11, 0:09:29]: Council does not currently have a policy in place regarding um uh whether a public commenter can give their time to another person.'Cause what I just read, it says ever everybody be able to address the mayor of council for three minutes. So it doesn't so all right. We've been consistent. [0:09:29, 0:09:35]: I'm actually gonna wave my comment at this moment. Okay, thank you. All right. Who's next? [0:09:46, 0:09:46]: Okay. [0:10:00, 0:10:01]: Name and address, please. [0:10:03, 0:10:14]: My name is Mary Indie Calhoun, 608 Creekstone Court, Jonesboro, Stockbridge, Georgia, 30281. [0:10:15, 0:10:35]: I am before this board to talk about an issue that is plaguing our communities, especially in Stockbridge, this issue of homelessness and homeless needs. I have been developing a comprehensive operating procedure for homeless based on the principles of Narcotics Anonymous. [0:10:35, 0:10:48]: Sex offender anonymous as well as alcohol anonymous. I plan to establish it in an H I I plan to establish a homeless anonymous program [0:10:50, 0:11:00]: In Florida I participated in a group project aimed at improving the t tracking of sex offenders while also providing them with support groups to discuss their behavior. [0:11:00, 0:11:05]: This enabled probation officers to exercise more effective supervision and monitoring. [0:11:06, 0:11:09]: My primary objective with homelessness was [0:11:09, 0:11:11]: The Homeless Anonymous program [0:11:12, 0:11:14]: is to enhance the track enhance the tracking [0:11:15, 0:11:16]: of this population. [0:11:16, 0:11:19]: Conduct a thorough needs assessment. [0:11:19, 0:11:22]: and provide sustainable solutions. [0:11:23, 0:11:25]: You will you will be impressed by [0:11:25, 0:11:28]: та потенціал сформи ресурси. [0:11:28, 0:11:34]: allocated toward the underserved population, focusing on providing a hand up [0:11:34, 0:11:36]: rather than a repetitive handout. [0:11:37, 0:11:40]: It is essential that we adopt innovative appro [0:11:40, 0:11:44]: Approaches to assist those without a support system. [0:11:44, 0:11:47]: or a clear plan for a better life. [0:11:47, 0:11:52]: We must become proactive when dealing with this group of growing population. [0:11:52, 0:11:53]: If we don't [0:11:53, 0:11:57]: it will affect us f affect our crime rate negatively. [0:11:58, 0:12:01]: This is one of my initiatives. [0:12:03, 0:12:08]: Elected officials in Hearing County refuse to work with me because I am so outspoken about them. [0:12:09, 0:12:11]: I'm a very smart and resourceful person. [0:12:12, 0:12:16]: with many great ideas to assist my c community based on needs assessed. [0:12:17, 0:12:26]: But I refuse to be labeled by you all as someone who is crazy or mental or whatever names you wanna call me that day. [0:12:26, 0:12:29]: Because I consistently expose [0:12:30, 0:12:35]: Things that are corrupt, abuse of power, and self serving purposes people who hold office. [0:12:36, 0:12:42]: The amount of money this council wasted on the amphitheater could have been used to have a program in place for the group laying. [0:12:43, 0:12:45]: For this group, the homeless [0:12:45, 0:12:47]: Втракабол дата. [0:12:47, 0:12:49]: As to its progression [0:12:49, 0:12:50]: Or failures. [0:12:51, 0:12:53]: So I say shame on all of you. [0:12:53, 0:12:56]: For not planning effectively to deal with this matter. [0:12:57, 0:12:59]: Again, I want you all to know that [0:12:59, 0:13:01]: I'm a good person. [0:13:01, 0:13:02]: I'm just outspoken. [0:13:02, 0:13:04]: А кір бабама ком'юті. [0:13:05, 0:13:06]: Yeah. Thank you for your time. [0:13:08, 0:13:09]: Who's next, uh Ms. Halday? [0:13:12, 0:13:14]: Miss Ann Fields. [0:13:25, 0:13:34]: Hi, Ann Fields, 329 Chase Marionway 30253. Um I just came to um ask [0:13:35, 0:13:55]: Due to the recent circumstances with everything going on with the amphitheater, if Stockbridge would consider purchasing the homes that resi are behind the amphitheater, this has been an extreme burden on the residents back there that don't want to be here anymore. And financially it's unfeasible for these folks to move. [0:13:55, 0:14:15]: I would hope that Stockbridge would consider doing the right thing to try to square this up and make do right by the people that have been taxpayers and hardworking community citizens for years here, including including Sunny and her kids. She's very open to an agreement. [0:14:14, 0:14:34]: To move, but the noise is unbearable for her. So I would hope that you would consider purchasing these homes from these people that do want to relocate now. Enough is kind of enough watching the financial downfall and everything that's going on here. The other thing I wanted to talk about was they're not letting me bring my wife. [0:14:34, 0:14:54]: Water in and I've been coming here for two years and I never ever ever because I'm a Girl Scout ever leave it worse than I came in. So all my garbage comes with me everywhere I go. And we should be allowed to have our water in here. You guys all have your waters and it's a hundred degrees outside. Um but any handicapped person [0:14:54, 0:14:58]: And that should be hydrating should be able to bring in [0:14:59, 0:15:19]: some sugar candy to you know to re redo their sugar if they're diabetic and we should be able to do that. I don't know why you guys eliminated bringing water in, but I'm happy to clean up after people just to keep the community flowing here. Thank you. Well thank you. No typically we don't respond to anything. Thank you. [0:15:19, 0:15:39]: But uh I would think that since we do have water, that's true. Uh so I don't know what's stated out there. I don't know why you couldn't have water absolutely in here if we have it. Okay. Yes, sir. I think working at event venues, what they do is in a situation like this. [0:15:38, 0:15:58]: This, they consider the water bottles that are full of water to be a potential threat. So they pour the water in a cup. So maybe we should have cups available for them to pour water in so that that that threat would be removed. Because if you go in any sporting venue, they have bottled waters in there. [0:15:58, 0:16:15]: But they allow they make the staff pour them into a cup so they can't be hurled because you see sometimes at the sporting events. Right. Mortified answers all these qu concerns, but more to follow we'll have it straightened out for the next time we have a public meeting. Anything else? [0:16:19, 0:16:29]: Well that's why I don't I don't okay. More more to follow. Hold hold up, stop, stop. Well we'll well I told you we'll f we'll have this figured out. The next time you come for a public meeting, we'll have this resolved. All right. No anybody else, Miss Holiday? [0:16:31, 0:16:32]: Ms. Carter, please. [0:16:40, 0:16:52]: Yes, my name is Willie Carter, 123 Wilson Avenue, Stockbridge, Georgia. The first concern that I have regarding is uh be be acknowledged the city needs to come up a commission with some kind of a [0:16:53, 0:16:55]: I think they called it a [0:16:56, 0:17:01]: Oversight committee due to the fact that uh there's no safeguards between [0:17:01, 0:17:21]: The ethnic board and the uh council. There's no kind of safeguards. So I think the city should establish some kind of oversight committee as far as those regards. Due to the time, I need to run through this here briefly. Second, we was at the um this past event at the uh amphitheater, and while you was giving your declaration. [0:17:21, 0:17:36]: For the Juneteenth um were prior to that, Mr. Alexander made it a kind of a bigotry statement. Quote The statement w was made was the amphitheater. [0:17:36, 0:17:37]: Yeah. [0:17:38, 0:17:49]: Would I need to stop? Well, what it is is that uh n no I'm not sure what exactly what you're gonna say. You may keep it general versus uh any perception. Well I'm just quoting a statement that he made, which you didn't which you didn't correct. [0:17:49, 0:18:02]: Well I don't know what I'm not I'm not sure what you're referring to. Point of order. Okay. The point of order is the rules are here are very clear. All comments have to be directed toward the chair. You cannot [0:18:03, 0:18:23]: All anybody's name up here or mention anybody or have a personal attack. That is the rules. There are no personal attacks allowed. But that was the same personal attack that was made on the public. Which is the statement that he made to the public regarding. [0:18:24, 0:18:28]: But s so are d so am I allowed to continue what he said or not? [0:18:28, 0:18:29]: Someone said. [0:18:30, 0:18:47]: Whatever s where someone s stated. State it. All right, go ahead. Go ahead. If that feel palatable to you. Go ahead. That which was disrespectful to the public about the amphitheater is here now. There's nothing that we can do about it. I think that's very bold and bigotry statement that was made from this individual. [0:18:47, 0:18:48]: Uh wait. [0:18:49, 0:18:53]: Okay, is that all your comments sir? That's it? Yeah. Okay, thank you for your comment. Appreciate it. [0:18:53, 0:19:13]: That's right. Okay. Uh council need for you to review your minutes. Uh review the minutes of June 9th, 2025, council meeting minutes for that, and also June 16th, the special call meeting minutes. And we'll get a chance to approve those at our next meeting, which will be next month. And uh right now we have a presentation, Wayfinder Project. [0:19:13, 0:19:16]: Mr. Sanders, please. [0:19:24, 0:19:24]: Yeah. [0:19:25, 0:19:45]: Good evening. Good evening. Uh this the item before you this evening, Mayor and Council, is uh we intend uh there's a group of folks with me this evening and we are going to give a PowerPoint presentation to you all about the current status of the Wayfinding Project, which is very exciting. Uh if you're like me, you've probably already seen signs go up. [0:19:45, 0:20:05]: in and around downtown that was mostly phase one we're in the midst of phase two and so i have uh with me this evening um um cheryl woodson and dominique heritage uh who are going to join me here at the podium and mr heritage is actually going to lead the discussion uh [0:20:05, 0:20:09]: as it relates to the PowerPoint, so I hope you all will enjoy the information that we're about to share with you. [0:20:10, 0:20:11]: Okay, thank you. [0:20:12, 0:20:13]: Thank you, Mr. Sanders. [0:20:15, 0:20:16]: Uh let me just [0:20:17, 0:20:37]: Bring up the presentation real quick. It's a pleasure to see you all again, council members. I don't know if you remember me from several months ago. Um I was here to discuss the budget as we kicked off the signage. And today I'm here to provide you some updates as far as where we're at with the different phases, what's upcoming, and then some other things that have been [0:20:37, 0:20:46]: been in development. Name and address please, by the way. Oh sure. Dominic Heritage 2738 Spring Street in Dekula, Georgia. [0:20:47, 0:20:58]: Sky Design, yes, Sky Design is the comp I sorry, yes, Sky Design is the company I represent, and this is Cheryl Woodson with uh Danais, and they are the signage fabricators that we have all partnered with over the past year and a half or so. [0:21:00, 0:21:13]: So if everyone can see the PowerPoint presentation, we're just gonna go through each page, um, starting with all the different phases of work. So the signage has been broken down into three phases, essentially what doesn't need to be permitted. [0:21:13, 0:21:15]: Phase two is what needs to be permitted with the city. [0:21:15, 0:21:18]: Phase three is signage that's in G dots purview. [0:21:18, 0:21:23]: So all of those have either been in development or are um being installed currently. [0:21:23, 0:21:43]: Phase one being the first signs that you may have actually already seen throughout your city. Um this is some enhanced street signage, parking wayfinding, as well as a retrofit to the existing Merlmander's sign. So you can actually go out and see those on site. We just completed the punch walk this afternoon. So um [0:21:43, 0:21:48]: Um Mr. Sanders, Mayor Ford, you should see a report in your hands by next week just outlining [0:21:49, 0:21:51]: The completion of phase one. Okay. [0:21:53, 0:22:00]: And here's just a quick reference to those installed signs that you can go out and see. A lot of the concentration is in the downtown area. [0:22:01, 0:22:21]: Phase two is in production right now with the DenICE team, and this is where things are really going to start getting exciting. Throughout this phase, we're going to be fleshing out some of the identification for parks and amenities, as well as in the bottom right here, your typical directional sign. So this is really the bread and butter of the signage package. [0:22:21, 0:22:24]: It's identification for some of your big [0:22:25, 0:22:30]: substantial buildings, city hall, as well as starting to navigate people through the city. [0:22:31, 0:22:40]: We also in the top left where my cursor is, that is a um one of the smaller scale gateway signs. So those act as a demarcation that you're entering within the city property lines. [0:22:42, 0:22:56]: And just to give a quick recap of where we're at with phase two, so this is in production right now. Um permitting is completed, these are being built by the DNICE team. We anticipate in October 2025 completion of install for all those signs. [0:22:57, 0:23:01]: So by the end of the year you'll have a much more robust signage system in place. [0:23:02, 0:23:22]: Phase three is underway with GDOT. So, as I'm sure many of you have previously experienced, GDOT marches to the beat of their own drum, and that beat goes however fast or slow they may determine. So this phase really includes the larger, heavier hits of signage, anything that's off of the [0:23:22, 0:23:36]: main right-of-way that's in GDOTs purview. Some of the signs included are in the top left large-scale gateway signs off I-75 that really welcome to Stockbridge, as well as anything else that's off major routes. [0:23:38, 0:23:45]: We are experiencing a few discrepancies from GDOT. Um the first being uh uh kind of a [0:23:46, 0:23:52]: We have signage proposed at the Jodico Road exit as well as signage proposed at the Rock Quarry exit. [0:23:52, 0:24:12]: They aren't allowing both of those signs. They're considering both gateways when we're only allowed one per direction. So what does that mean? Essentially what it means is the gateway sign at Rock Quarry isn't permitted. We suggest going with the Jodeco Road sign because it is a true. [0:24:12, 0:24:18]: Property line or demarcation of the property line for stock bridge. [0:24:20, 0:24:30]: We do have a plan in action to make sure there is still some stockbridge welcoming moment at the Rock Quarry exit. It's just not gonna be as grandiose as we initially thought. [0:24:31, 0:24:47]: The other discrepancy that we're dealing with right now is with another one of the main gateway signs and that that you can see right here. So this is as you're traveling down I-75. Um I'm trying to remember the exit we're at specifically. [0:24:49, 0:24:53]: Oh sorry, sir. [0:24:54, 0:24:55]: No, I believe it is [0:24:56, 0:24:57]: Seventy five, yeah. [0:24:58, 0:25:04]: So this is um if you're heading seventy-five south, I think you uh would hit this sign. [0:25:05, 0:25:25]: The pink area on this grid is where we submitted for permitting. And maybe weeks prior to our submission, Henry County actually submitted for a sign there. So right now the issue we're dealing with is we either need to have a conversation with Henry County, essentially uh parlaying with them, saying, hey, could we either [0:25:26, 0:25:38]: take this over or work together to create a joint sign. Um the other quadrants shown in blue are what are available to us, but unfortunately those don't have the sight line and [0:25:39, 0:25:58]: impact of the one in pink. So we're at a bit of a standstill with this one sign because of Henry County essentially beating us to the punch with permitting. It's recommended that a conversation is struck up from the city of Stockbridge with Henry County. Otherwise we're at a bit of a standstill until that development occurs. [0:26:02, 0:26:22]: And this was actually some quick details of the Jodeco road sign. So A2 is the main large gateway sign here. And what's not being permitted is this smaller scale gateway at the Rock Quarry Eagles Landing exit ramp. So basically, we have to do away with this to keep this sign, and we're gonna figure out an alternate way. [0:26:21, 0:26:41]: To have some kind of welcoming moment. If I zoom in here, let me interrupt you for a second. That is because it's too close to the road, is that's why it's unacceptable? No, it's not that it's too close to the road, they only allow one gateway sign per direction. So because these signs both service the same direction of traffic, only one is permitted. Okay. [0:26:41, 0:26:51]: There's really no way around that. If it was a some kind of directional wayfinding, we might be able to squeak past their blockade of this. [0:26:51, 0:26:56]: But um it's unclear until we resubmit. Ms. Gang, go ahead, please. Thank you. Um [0:26:56, 0:27:03]: I don't recall asking for a gateway sign in a Hudson Bridge. And I not that I I I get what you're saying. [0:27:04, 0:27:24]: But those markers are throughout the city anyway, right? We'll be having those markers in and out of our on our borders throughout the city limits of Stockbridge. Is that not correct? There are some existing ones. Okay. This the plan for this when it was first developed in twenty twenty three was almost a replacement of those. This is because of the stock. [0:27:23, 0:27:39]: rebrand and the new look, we're essentially revamping those locations to have a new branded gateway sign. But are those the signs that the gate those are the same gateway signs that will be throughout the city marking our borders? [0:27:39, 0:27:59]: You have three different types actually. There's gate uh sign type A, which are these those. The big guys here. Those are the gateways. The so one in direction going north and one going south. Yes. This is also a gateway sign. It's just a smaller scale. And so you have A, B, and C. There's a primary, secondary, and tertiary gateway. It depends on the [0:27:59, 0:28:03]: um size of the route that we're putting the sign. [0:28:03, 0:28:23]: Okay. The ones that we normally have right now we have wooden stakes with circles up top. Are those replacing those? These are replacing those, yeah. So exactly. So to me, those are the signs that show our borders, like one that will be out closer to between Stockbridge and Clayton County down here on Lake Spivey. [0:28:23, 0:28:43]: Then you have one on n um 138 between um Stockbridge and Clayton County again where uh Clayton County kinda comes in over there by that um Planet Fitness and that. So you have a a marker there. There are are particular places not on [0:28:43, 0:28:58]: the Interstate. So we don't have one on the Interstate right now. I mean we we're having an interra I get it. I'm I don't I'm not looking at this as being a big deal. I don't this is a marker that sh seems kinda out of place. [0:28:59, 0:29:05]: The reason that this was proposed and approved previously is while Jodeco Road is the true [0:29:05, 0:29:18]: city boundary, this is a major access point to get to Stockbridge. You get off the exit and then you can take Rock Quarry up to the downtown area. So that's why this was considered. Okay. Um to your point, Councilmember Gann, I do understand that [0:29:19, 0:29:28]: if we had to pick the larger sign at Jodeco Road is really the the one that matters most. So um to your point, there's this is going away. Um [0:29:29, 0:29:36]: And so if the area the the marker that we have currently on one thirty eight on North Henry Boulevard on seventy five [0:29:37, 0:29:53]: South, going south. The other gateway sign. Yes. Exit two twenty eight is what where you pretty much are trying to put it. That Henry County already already had a designated area. Then [0:29:53, 0:30:06]: Um if Henry County hopefully they say yes, they'll they'll allow us to do that. I mean it's a stopbridge jurisdiction, right? It's also the entryway to Henry County. So [0:30:09, 0:30:16]: We're ready to go. I don't know when they are getting started with their gateway sign. I don't know their their [0:30:16, 0:30:36]: their signs that means they'll have one down by Locust Grove and one by us pretty much. I'm not pretty sure where they're going with this, but we're we're ready to go. And so we will meet with, I guess we'll test staff to go ahead um and meet with the county about that. But [0:30:36, 0:30:37]: Do we have a plan B? [0:30:38, 0:30:48]: We don't have a plan B currently, um outside of just starting the conversation with Henry County. Um I think once we have an understanding of what they're willing to budge on, we can start coming up with an actionable plan. [0:30:49, 0:30:53]: My hope is if there's some level of concession from Henry County, perhaps we can [0:30:53, 0:31:07]: take this design and incorporate some kind of reference to now entering Henry County or something to that effect. Um but until the conversation is spurned with Henry County, I'm not a hundred percent sure where to pivot just yet. [0:31:07, 0:31:08]: Well [0:31:10, 0:31:18]: When I drive along seventy five, I'm trying to think, do you see counties gateway signs or do you see cities? Like if I go up [0:31:19, 0:31:20]: I don't see county, so [0:31:23, 0:31:43]: Yeah, they do. Clayton County has put theirs right by the airport on both seventy five and eighty five. Clayton County. Clayton County has it also on two eighty five, right as you're going into the airport. And then you see cities like Sandy Springs has theirs, Peace Street County. And you see Roswell and UC So I that's what I was thinking. I I didn't realize Clayton County had put up since I was [0:31:42, 0:32:00]: So now they're gonna start a trend where the counties and the cities are both trying to put up their signs. But um in the past it's been the cities. And so uh I guess we definitely wanna speak with them about that. I just kind of wanna maybe we can combine. I don't know. Um [0:32:00, 0:32:18]: But uh I would ask that you guys find a plan B just in case. Um but ho uh I I don't think Henry County would have a problem with us trying to work together. We've been working really well together lately on getting something done and accomplished. So thank you. My pleasure. [0:32:18, 0:32:19]: The [0:32:20, 0:32:40]: Either the question is like we're done or are we still in the still going. I just wanted to let you finish and then we're gonna go. All right, fine. Go ahead, please. Um so just to finish up the conversation about phase three, as as stated, we're really just in talks with GDOT and trying to overcome these hurdles. Um we anticipate an early twenty twenty six. [0:32:40, 0:32:57]: six completion to this, uh again, that's pending how the GDOT conversation goes. We're still in the middle of the review process and it it there's no unfortunate timetable provided by GDOT. So once we get through that approval phase, we'll be able to put true dates to when this would be completed. [0:32:57, 0:32:58]: Nice. [0:32:59, 0:33:19]: I have two more items I would like to discuss. The first is digital signage. At the behest of the city manager, it was requested that we begin investigating where would be the best place to put some kind of digital signage to advertise events and upcoming happenings at the amphitheater. [0:33:19, 0:33:26]: So, what I'm gonna go through real quick is the exercises we went through and where we're at right now in that design process. [0:33:27, 0:33:29]: The initial investigation was right here. [0:33:30, 0:33:38]: Outside of City Hall. We were looking over where the fountain is. However, that became just a little bit too much of a struggle with all the upcoming developments. [0:33:39, 0:33:41]: posed to happen in that area. [0:33:41, 0:33:47]: from relocation of the fountain to the potential mixed use residential development there. [0:33:47, 0:34:06]: It became a struggle to confidently suggest a location that isn't gonna either impact future developments or be something that you would have to consider relocating. So we scrapped that idea and then began looking at, okay, what if we incorporate some kind of digital signage into the future development? [0:34:07, 0:34:08]: The caveat to that is [0:34:09, 0:34:29]: You wouldn't get a sign until that development comes to life. So that puts while it could look great and integrated, the problem with that is if you're looking for something immediate, there's nothing we can do until a structure is actually in place. Plans are in place that we can figure out how to best integrate it. So we started putting some renderings together, but again, the issue. [0:34:29, 0:34:30]: [2072.4, 2092.4]: Where we're at right now is we've looked at two different locations. The first and most actionable here is right outside of City Hall. Just behind your retaining wall, where you have the dimensional letters that say Stockbridge City Hall. There's a great uh strip of landscaping that has been cleared that we can build up a digital sign that marries with the [0:34:52, 0:35:00]: Aesthetic established for the civic signage being rolled out. And we've did visual uh visibility studies, and this is [0:35:00, 0:35:09]: As you're coming over the bridge, it's it's a great intersection that people will see it if it's not on their way to work, it's on their way back, etc. So [0:35:10, 0:35:14]: As far as rolling something out immediately and effectively, this is the spot that we recommend. [0:35:15, 0:35:35]: The other consideration we were told to look at is sorry, could you back up one sec? Just for clarification. In reference to this, I think the conversation I had with you and Gerald and make sure the uh council understands this as well, you know, and for the future we plan to have it remove the water fountain. So the water fountain would go right back there. So if this does not if that is the case, we agree [0:35:35, 0:35:43]: This sign will where it's positioned, will not block the from you from watching or seeing the water flow as it does now, just so you know that, all right? [0:35:44, 0:35:54]: But it was originally planned to be there anyway. Yes ma'am. So I just wanted to sign. Right. Is that correct? Yeah. So I just wanna make make that note there. Yes, we are aware so this is [0:35:55, 0:36:05]: A lot of the locations we've looked at, there's somet some kind of prospect also potentially, whether it be the fountain or we've heard that maybe even the city hall would potentially expand. So we're we're in a position where [0:36:06, 0:36:07]: Mm. [0:36:08, 0:36:28]: We need some ad advice on if we are to do this, you know, maybe the fountain needs to just provide enough clearance that water's not being splashed on the screen. Even though it would be exteriorated, there's things like that we have to work through for any future developments nearby that sign. Does that sound good? I don't think we really need to overthink this. Okay. [0:36:28, 0:36:48]: That should be the location. I mean it's perfect. We had this area cleaned out. We had a bunch of trees and shrubs and stuff in there. And it really just kinda identified itself. And as you said, when you come over the bridge, everybody would come over that bridge. That sound that sign would stand out and uh it would be visible from both directions. So [0:36:48, 0:36:50]: Yes. I think I would support this location. [0:36:51, 0:37:11]: The other consideration we explored from the design standpoint is how do we incorporate a digital sign into the Eagles Landing gateway? Uh so this would just be a retrofit of the existing sign. We would essentially cover up and update any of the old branding present on that sign and utilize one face of the gateway to incorporate a digital screen that would overlook. [0:37:11, 0:37:15]: the Rock Quarry and Eagles Landing intersection. [0:37:16, 0:37:29]: This doesn't ha this is if we were to favor either of the designs, it'd be the city hall one, but for future considerations, this design is in place. We even have pricing for it for y'all to consider uh moving forward. [0:37:30, 0:37:37]: Thank you. On that note, I will go over the numbers associated with those two sign types. Um [0:37:37, 0:37:47]: DNICE was kind enough to actually hold because they they knew this was in development, they've been kind enough to hold some stock of their digital components. [0:37:47, 0:38:04]: That reflect pre-tariff pricing. A lot of the digital components have exploded in price since the tariffs have been rolled out. So the two numbers on the right for the City Hall and Eagles Landing where my cursors are are for those digital signs. They're right about the$117,000 mark. [0:38:04, 0:38:18]: Um the two bar graphs on the left side reflect just portions of the signage budget. At one point we were going to try to fold this into the signage budget, but there's just not enough left in the bucket to do so. [0:38:18, 0:38:37]: We had a contingency of about$115,000, and that's really just for unforeseen. Um, you know, with signs of that scope and scale going off of I-75. We're not sure what we're gonna find underground when we're putting in a footer, so a lot of that was just in case, just in case, basically. Um we've [0:38:37, 0:38:57]: consume some of that contingency for two things. We are putting an anti-graffiti coding on Clark Park signage just to make sure that any kind of um vandalism can be easily corrected. And then we're doing a embellishment to add a one-inch reveal. This is just a design consideration for the main gateway signs. And we [0:38:57, 0:39:05]: Still have an unforeseen conditions bucket as well. So, this is really more just to give you an idea of where we're at with the signage budget or the excess that we have. [0:39:06, 0:39:08]: While these two are [0:39:08, 0:39:18]: the pricing we've received from DNICE and if the council would like to move forward with that either of the digital signs, this gives you an understanding of the funding we would need to get approved. [0:39:19, 0:39:20]: Okay. [0:39:22, 0:39:42]: Last but not least, we have um civic signage phases two and three coming up as discussed. Our Sky Design services do conclude at phase one. Uh so if the city council is interested in continuing work with Sky Design, we can put a proposal together to continue doing uh construction. [0:39:42, 0:39:48]: administration services for phases two and three. And then the last consideration is the directory map. [0:39:49, 0:39:55]: You have two of these signs going in, one on the main strip downtown. [0:39:56, 0:40:16]: And one right by the Will Call ticketing booth at the amphitheater. These will be static signs that are essentially a directory map of the city of Stockbridge. It'll give pedestrians an understanding of where food and beverage is, all the different amenities that downtown has to offer and surrounding. Um and the signage Golden. No, also [0:40:15, 0:40:29]: So Baron Council, when he when he refers to Main Street, I wanted to clarify and say we have discussed and we have walked MLK Sr. being the location of this sign. So I just wanted to clarify that in his reference to Main Street. All right. Thank you. [0:40:30, 0:40:39]: So, what we're looking to figure out is when we were initially contracted for design, the design of the actual map was not included. [0:40:40, 0:41:00]: Mr. Sanders is looking with the GIS team to see if it's something that you all could do internally. If not, we can put a proposal together for the design of this map for your consideration. And just to give you some context, that map is something that would be easily removable. So as developments occur, you're not having to invest in a whole new sign up. [0:41:00, 0:41:05]: panel would pop off. It would just have to be reprinted or reapplied and then screwed back on. [0:41:06, 0:41:07]: Uh, thank you. [0:41:08, 0:41:22]: Any questions on this side? Yeah. Okay. First of all, um the idea uh in my mind on that last thing that you just mentioned certainly [0:41:23, 0:41:35]: the sign visibility should be the pre should be um the preference. And with so many more people coming to the amphitheater. [0:41:36, 0:41:56]: to see the sign and to know that the restaurants are over there and the bars are over there, it would seem plausible and that it would be at the amphitheater versus being on MLK trail because you got we're trying to get them there. You actually have two, sir. There would be one on I think it's a little bit of a [0:41:55, 0:42:07]: So it's two of them? Yes sir. Yes. Okay. So one would be oh oh right adjacent to the ticketing booth at the amphitheater, and then one would be off MLK at the Amphithous. Okay, so there's no there's not one anywhere else? [0:42:08, 0:42:28]: I think just two. Just two, yes. Right. And that's what I was gonna say. So to have both of them within basically within a block of each other, you would have one. I would suggest that you put one at Jodeco, in the Jodico development, so that people come through when they're walking through the development, they can know that there's a downtown stockbridge and they can know where [0:42:28, 0:42:48]: that is. The idea to me, especially on the signage, and I think we kind of did it maybe inverse the way that it may have could have been done, was to focus on bringing people to downtown. Because if there are nobody comes here now, it which that's the problem. The problem is getting the people to the downtown. [0:42:48, 0:42:54]: So if people that are shopping at Costco see they have a sign there that says [0:42:54, 0:43:14]: The amphitheater is over there. Frozen smoke is over there. Um Downtown Social is there. Or the amphitheater is there. There's thousands of people that come to that Costco every day that will become excuse, that'll be coming the first watch, that'll be coming to Sprouts. That is one that is the most highly [0:43:14, 0:43:23]: traffic area in the city. So instead of having two machines within a block of each other, having one over there at the JohtoCo development and [0:43:23, 0:43:31]: It's all about marketing to me. That's what the that's what we're doing here, right? This is a marketing device, right? If you got two within [0:43:32, 0:43:33]: A block of each other. [0:43:34, 0:43:35]: Then [0:43:35, 0:43:55]: where we're we're trying to draw the people into, it would make more sense to put it in a location where thousands of people come every day that we could drive them to the downtown location and we would already have one here at this location, whether we choose one of the two spots, whether the council [0:43:55, 0:44:13]: want to be. But I don't see the purpose of putting two in the same area within a block of each other. It would make more sense to do it on the outer areas. Also, I want you to flip back to the very first slide of all the signage where you did the Merlomanders and you did the signage and all of that. [0:44:16, 0:44:16]: Mm-hmm. [0:44:17, 0:44:37]: Councilman Bar Alexander, you were look at that beautiful new sign that we did with the stoprid logo, and then I look at those discolored bricks that are on the existing sign, and I say, maybe we should go back and revisit that. And we might need to put the brick veneers to match. [0:44:37, 0:44:57]: Well you know, on the big cook on the big pierce sign, we have the brick veneer at the bottom, right, to match City Hall. That brick doesn't match anything. So what we would be able to do, because it looks cause you look at it now, you see the sign, and the sign looks great, but then you look at this older [0:44:57, 0:45:17]: discolored brick that really doesn't kind of fit in with that sign right there. But if you did the same brick, you did the Vrick Vrick veneers on the outside, just like we're gonna do on the big interstate signs, and you covered that, it would look like a new sign. You wouldn't even have to tear the sign down. Basically you would just have to reface it with brick veneers. [0:45:17, 0:45:37]: uh on the outside. All the signs should probably be redone that way because it just it looks a little odd that you have this brand new sign in the middle of this old outdated brick. So I know you're trying to save money. Certainly that's the idea that you were trying to serve money, but if we're gonna do the expressway signs that way. [0:45:37, 0:45:57]: We would be very consistent in that every sign that we do would have the same brick that we have on City Hall if we went with and did brick veneers. I don't again, you wouldn't tear down the sign. You would just basically rip off the facing of those uh outdated uh brick that's on there and you would [0:45:57, 0:46:17]: Would put the same color brick that you have here on City Hall so that would match in. So the signs that you have done so far, they look great. I I I would say what we want to do is we want to be careful with where we're putting the signs at to make sure that they're far enough, far enough out of the right-of-way. And I think this sign down. [0:46:17, 0:46:37]: Out here on Lee Street, we're gonna we got a sidewalk that's gonna be coming through there. So we're probably gonna have to move that one. So we need to be further enough out of the right-of-way. The one on North Lee Street, right? We just put it up by the church. There's gonna be a sidewalk that'll go on that particular section. So it'll probably just [0:46:37, 0:46:57]: have to be moved over a little bit out of that right away. So and and then the signs along uh it we just talked about that with the representative and basically that whole sidewalk from North Lee Street to East Atlanta Road is going to be widened. So those signs probably gonna have to be moved a little bit further. [0:46:57, 0:47:17]: out of the right-of-way than where they are right now. And I think we just had need to have discussions amongst the departments when uh we go down that route. But the main focus of all of what we're doing now was the directional signage, which was when people get off the interstate, the amphitheater [0:47:17, 0:47:30]: is this way, Merle Manders is this way, City Hall is this way. I don't s I don't I guess that's in another phase. Correct, yeah. Right. That'll be in the second phase. I didn't see any of that signage represented in the presentation. [0:47:30, 0:47:50]: Uh yes, sir. It is in fact in phase two and phase three. So right down here where my cursor is circling is a representation of those signs. You have about twenty or so in phase two. And then the remaining balance, which I think is twelve to fifteen in phase three. Um the reason they're not in phase one is strictly because of permitting. Um so that is what is up. [0:47:50, 0:47:59]: on the horizon October, you should have a very f uh large amount of these signs going in. And that I I actually wanted to double back to the pedestrian kiosk. [0:48:00, 0:48:16]: When you were mentioning one down in the Jodico area, that's actually what those signs the purpose of those signs is to push people from the area toward I'm sorry, the purpose of the directional signs is to push them from Rockwari towards the downtown area. The kiosks are really more [0:48:17, 0:48:19]: serving pedestrians [0:48:20, 0:48:23]: Андер сім'я клос то вона. [0:48:23, 0:48:24]: Yeah. [0:48:25, 0:48:34]: They're also to service like first time guests. Say someone's coming here for an amphitheater show and there's overflow parking that's spilled out and someone is in on M M L K Boulevard, they have no idea how to [0:48:34, 0:48:41]: Walk towards the amphitheater. That's what's those kiosks are to do, even though they are in close proximity to one another. [0:48:42, 0:48:53]: they won't necessarily feel that way to first c first time visitors. They're what I'm what I'm what I'm saying to you is that Jodeco has gonna have about three miles in trails to be pedestrian friendly. [0:48:53, 0:49:13]: That's gonna be the most walkable area in the entire city. Sure. And there's gonna be thousands of people there actually walking. They do that now. There's hardly anybody that walks in downtown right now. The walking people would then be exposed. Them if you want people to see this sign and to read it, or in the businesses downtown with [0:49:13, 0:49:14]: Tell you. [0:49:14, 0:49:23]: There there's very little foot traffic downtown right now, very minimal. So we're trying to get people to their front doors. [0:49:23, 0:49:43]: So putting it outward brings people and makes people more aware of what we're doing in downtown. Instead of putting it in downtown where nobody's going to see it. So if we're gonna do the do the revenue, put instead of putting two side by side in very low traffic areas, you would put one in a high. [0:49:43, 0:49:48]: highly trafficked area and you would put one down here in the traffic area'cause [0:49:49, 0:50:08]: literally you would probably have more people in the Jodico area see the sign in a few hours than you would have in the whole week um in the down in in on MLK. I'm not saying we're not gonna come back to MLK at some point because we would circle back to MAK at some point. [0:50:08, 0:50:28]: Once we're driving the people in there, and this is free advertising for Mr. Frozen Smoke out there. This is free advertising for all of the businesses that are located in the pizza shop and all of that, that thousands of people would be now seeing their advertisement every day, whereas if it was down here the [0:50:28, 0:50:48]: Those people would have no idea that that was actually there. And as far as the signage is concerned, too, I understand, you know, you're listening to the main street, and certainly we want to listen to the main street being in the advice that they are and their focus is on the downtown. But people need to know how to get here first. [0:50:48, 0:51:08]: It has been my contention from the beginning. We needed to start at the interstate exits and work our way here. Somebody needs to know how to get to Merrill Manders first before we put the sign in downtown. If you're in downtown, you already know where Merromanders is. So putting the sign here, it might look good, it might be cute. [0:51:08, 0:51:28]: But the hope the whole purpose of wayfinding is all of us complain right now. When you get off of I-75, there no there's nothing telling you where the amphitheater is, there's nothing telling you where City Hall is or downtown. So to me, if you're not gonna do them, there should be some in the outer areas. [0:51:28, 0:51:48]: Starting at the expressway exits, some in downtown, but there should not be all in downtown, cause that really defeats the purpose, cause there's nothing directing you. We're trying to drive people, as I said, to these doors. And that advertisement there for Merrill Manors will book a couple of events. It'll book a couple of events for the amphitheater. [0:51:48, 0:52:08]: uh also. So certainly I I I think uh in my way of thinking that would be the way because this is a marketing thing that we're trying to do. We're not just trying to beautify downtown. We're trying to make people come here to sustain the businesses. Yes. So on that note I would imagine a couple things here. One is in reference to potential refacing the brick. [0:52:08, 0:52:27]: And then of course if you haven't been out to Bridge of Johto Code, then you kinda take a look at that and walk around and figure out what might be a good location out there, since you've if you've never been out there to get an idea, just in case. And then let us know. [0:52:28, 0:52:34]: Is that developing completed, the bridges? No, no, it's not completed, no, no. It's just it's not gonna be completed probably for another year, year and a half. [0:52:34, 0:52:54]: So because the maps haven't been developed, we have not installed and we have no plans of installing those directory kiosks until the map is developed. So that's that's the first hurdle is figuring out who is gonna handle the map, whether it's stockbridge internally or uh outside services. But trust and believe, even at the completion point that it is right now. [0:52:54, 0:53:01]: It is the most trafficked area in the city by far. Not even close. Yes, gosh, I have a question made. Go ahead, please. Um [0:53:02, 0:53:08]: Those those two kiosks that you're talking about, those are in certain maps. Right. So [0:53:08, 0:53:21]: I would assume that that would be for our downtown area. That's m my thought processes. You'll have your directional signs of course that you know, closer to the interstate and other areas saying, um [0:53:21, 0:53:22]: Murromanders and [0:53:23, 0:53:36]: art center this way, right? Or uh community center this way. But those particular are for our live, work and play downtown environment. So those two kiosks are different. [0:53:36, 0:53:41]: That's not but that's not the Jodico. This is saying, hey, this is what [0:53:42, 0:53:43]: No, what I'm saying is [0:53:43, 0:53:48]: But but we're developing downtown. So when downtown develops [0:53:50, 0:54:06]: Those two maps particularly are for the downtown campus area. They're not for the entire city of Stockbridge. They're saying, hey, city halls here, amphitheaters here, community centers here, art centers here. [0:54:07, 0:54:27]: Uh we have a park here, we have a park here, and we have a pavilion right here, and we might have a dog park over here, and we have this skating park right here. So it's about the downtown specifically, just the downtown area. So you know how when you go somewhere and they're just talking about that particular component of Stockbridge. They're not talking about the whole thing. [0:54:27, 0:54:41]: Thing. There will be advertisements over in Jodico about what's going on in downtown, you know, pointing towards our downtown. But when you get to downtown, you want a map specifically of the perimeters of the downtown area. There's a difference. [0:54:41, 0:55:01]: It's not to put those signs are not electronic, they're replaceable when we build something new, but also when we have those public-private partnerships or we have new development coming within this downtown area, not for the entire city of Stockbridge, and and it's unique in that way. [0:55:01, 0:55:07]: where we're specifically talking about the campus of downtown. [0:55:07, 0:55:15]: That's what these two are for. There are some other ones I remember, and I think that might be phase three. But those direct or phase two, those directional signs. [0:55:16, 0:55:31]: Which would be in Jodico or whatever other signs, but these specifically are talking about our downtown campus, which would make sense to me. Specifically on the trails, considering phase one of trails starts where? Downtown. [0:55:31, 0:55:40]: Right. So when you're walking, I'm not just gonna go and say, Oh, there's a kiosk. Let me go look at a map of Stockbridge. I'm not doing that. I don't know too many people that are. [0:55:40, 0:56:00]: And when you do first come, you're gonna look to find a parking space that are in the downtown area. Then you would go up to that and you would look for it because you're going to a show or you're going to a theater or you're going to whatever you're going to do in our downtown campus area. Those two kiosks, only two are specific. [0:56:00, 0:56:02]: [3363.6, 3372.0]: Okay. Anybody thank you. Any other questions on this side? There's nobody. Oh you have go ahead please. There's no are you there are you done with your presentation? [0:56:12, 0:56:15]: I believe so, yes. I'm happy to answer any questions though. [0:56:16, 0:56:16]: Okay. [0:56:16, 0:56:27]: Um so one of the questions that I do have when we started discussing this whole wayfinding signage um and the locations of them, um [0:56:27, 0:56:31]: Some areas particularly along State Route forty two. [0:56:32, 0:56:36]: We're not in our city limits. So I wanna make sure that State Route forty two. [0:56:37, 0:56:44]: going towards like Valley Hill Road at our city limits or where our city limits began. Um [0:56:45, 0:56:50]: that they are included on your list for at least directional sign. [0:56:51, 0:57:11]: We uh uh apologies, uh Councilmember Barber, as I don't have the full location plan handy right now. But what I can say is our directional signage is not just concentrated in downtown. It's a breadcrumb trail that takes you from any connecting routes, be it major highways or some of the secondary routes, and pushes you towards downtown. [0:57:11, 0:57:17]: So we have we have directional signs down by Eagles Landing in the Rock Quarry pushing people up. [0:57:18, 0:57:38]: Right off of exit 228, we start picking you up and pushing you towards downtown. Um, and I do know we have, while I've honed in on visuals of the major gateway signs, we have, I want to say about six to eight gateway signs circling Stockbridge to kind of demarcate from the major routes to [0:57:37, 0:57:48]: To the the more um you know county roads letting you know that you've entered Stockbridge. What I can do is provide the location plan, particularly the gateway signs, to Mr. Sanders. Um [0:57:49, 0:58:00]: when we meet next to distribute to you for review if you'd like. I'm speaking specifically for the directional signs. Yes. Um for the state route forty two area. [0:58:00, 0:58:07]: Um only because again, that area was newly annexed into our city limits in twenty twenty three. [0:58:07, 0:58:12]: Um so I just want to make sure that that area is included on the list. [0:58:12, 0:58:19]: If someone can confirm that or send me the list location to look into it and if it isn't um [0:58:21, 0:58:27]: If it isn't something that's being proposed, we'll certainly have it be a consideration. That's one of my questions. Um [0:58:27, 0:58:33]: You shared uh a new proposed location for um the large digital. [0:58:34, 0:58:35]: Board sign. [0:58:37, 0:58:42]: I'm just I'm curious to know the visibility from [0:58:42, 0:58:43]: Um [0:58:43, 0:58:46]: Травин алам Норт Хенри Булвард. [0:58:46, 0:58:47]: From [0:58:47, 0:58:49]: Rock Quarry Road. [0:58:49, 0:58:52]: What's the vis visibility of that sign? [0:58:52, 0:58:56]: So while this sign doesn't necessarily capture every direction. [0:58:57, 0:59:05]: What we view this as is this isn't a directional sign. This isn't something that we're trying to navigate you to the amphitheater. [0:59:05, 0:59:07]: This is something that is [0:59:07, 0:59:10]: Gonna catch your eye at some point in the day or the week. [0:59:11, 0:59:12]: Um [0:59:12, 0:59:26]: So Councilmember Barber, I want to just make it clear that this isn't to capture the full intersection. It's really only servicing as you come over that approach. But for anyone stopped at the intersection, regardless of what direction you are, you should be able to see this sign. [0:59:26, 0:59:38]: um and absorb the messaging. So it's supposed to be something that over the week you're updated to what event is happening. Um it's it's gonna grab you over time, not immediately send you to the amphitheater, if that if that makes sense. [0:59:39, 0:59:41]: Yes. Um but [0:59:41, 0:59:48]: We've had discussions about having a digital billboard signed for informational purposes. Um [0:59:48, 0:59:53]: For just the general public, so I want to make sure that we are taken advantage of. [0:59:53, 0:59:54]: Um [0:59:55, 1:00:00]: Everyone, no matter which direction they're coming from, are able to see. [1:00:00, 1:00:14]: We can devel look into this further. I think once if if a decision is made to move forward with this and and and funding is procured, we're gonna s tune those dials to make sure whether it's tweaking the orientation of the sign, um [1:00:15, 1:00:27]: There isn't a truly good location to have a double sided sign. That's actually what we first started looking at was making sure if you're heading down North Henry, we get you from both sides. There's just not a great location for that. [1:00:27, 1:00:31]: around the city hall area to implement it. Um [1:00:31, 1:00:48]: So will this um sign, will it sit on the wall? It's either going to sit on top of the wall or just behind it. We're gonna make it look integrated either way. It's really gonna come down to engineering at that point, what's the best route. But it's gonna be basically butted up just behind the wall. [1:00:48, 1:00:52]: Um and the digital screen is going to look like it basically s [1:00:53, 1:00:58]: ends right at the top of that wall. So n none of it will be obscured by the wall, whether it's sitting behind it or on top of it. [1:00:59, 1:01:02]: Okay. I didn't get this presentation. [1:01:02, 1:01:06]: in my packet. I'd like to have this presentation. [1:01:06, 1:01:12]: Okay, please. If you can um Mr. Sanders, are you responsible for this? Please. [1:01:12, 1:01:13]: Thank you. [1:01:14, 1:01:26]: Along with the list of all of those locations for the directional signs, I wanna make sure that Valley Hill Road and somewhere along um stagecoach, um where the [1:01:27, 1:01:34]: City limits began. I want to make sure that those two locations have directional signs included. Thank you. [1:01:36, 1:01:37]: So do you have any questions now? [1:01:37, 1:01:57]: I just wanna I just wanna thank you guys once again. I'm I'm always impressed by the product that you guys present. And so I don't know if it's been understated or not stated enough, but everything looks high quality and high end and I'm I'm just really looking forward to the full implementation and the and the development of the project. So we appreciate that, Councilmember Berry and uh [1:01:57, 1:02:06]: Um design's one thing, it's having a good trusted partner who can fabricate and bring the idea to life. That is really helpful as well. So thank you for that comment. [1:02:08, 1:02:08]: Any other questions? [1:02:09, 1:02:12]: Y uh you know this is a unique opportunity. [1:02:12, 1:02:18]: I see the DDA board out out there. I I would like to know what they think about this. Come could could y'all come up? [1:02:20, 1:02:21]: Well the yellow come on. [1:02:24, 1:02:44]: Because I I don't know what you think, but I would like to, I would like since you're here, I certainly would like to know what you think. So you see this signage here that we're proposing for downtown. It's gonna affect your business more than anybody's business out there. And the DDA is in the downtown area. So of this project. [1:02:44, 1:02:48]: Program what you see and what you've heard today. What what do you think? [1:02:50, 1:02:53]: Okay, there's yourself on a mic because [1:02:54, 1:03:14]: Yes, my name is Warren Washington. Uh I'm my name is Warren Washington. I'm at 106 Gulf Terrace, Stockbridge, Georgia. One of the things that that was intriguing to me and of making the statement of not only the directional signs, but due understanding that this is a marketing piece for the downtown area. And you're absolutely right that part of [1:03:14, 1:03:27]: that is to bring foot traffic to the downtown area and people need to know how to get to the downtown, not the ones that already stay here, but the ones who are trying to get here. So I think that kind of sums it up best, uh more so than anything else. [1:03:28, 1:03:29]: Mr. Chairman, what do you think? [1:03:32, 1:03:39]: Kenya Cook, uh Chairman of the Downtown Development Authority, um business owner in downtown. [1:03:40, 1:03:42]: And uh resident uh one o five. [1:03:43, 1:03:44]: Turning point. [1:03:44, 1:03:47]: Three points, and I've seen those signs. [1:03:48, 1:03:51]: Not impressed with the color scheme and the location. [1:03:53, 1:03:54]: Love the effort. [1:03:55, 1:04:00]: And uh as uh Councilman Alexander said, I think that we need to think like buckies. [1:04:00, 1:04:04]: When you're going into a certain area, Bucky's put their advertisement [1:04:04, 1:04:10]: Way m ninety three miles to Bucky. So I think it's important that if you're gonna spend money this way, you probably wanna place it [1:04:11, 1:04:13]: Whereas you're educating people who don't know. [1:04:14, 1:04:16]: versus spending on people who already know. [1:04:17, 1:04:19]: But I do like the concept. [1:04:19, 1:04:24]: I do like the effort, but uh that that would be my my thoughts. [1:04:24, 1:04:26]: Appreci appreciate the comments. Yes, ma'am. [1:04:27, 1:04:47]: I don't think you y'all heard the entire pres uh I think you were here for the entire presentation, but this is just phase one. So we have two more phases and they are the directional signs that will be on the outskirts in the other areas, such as Jodico, North Henry Boulevard, Lake Spivey [1:04:47, 1:05:04]: Walt Stevens everywhere all over throughout Stockbridge pointing towards our downtown. These signs are just like this sign says Merrill Manders Conference Center. It's just, it's part of our sign. It's like the ones they, the easy low-hanging fruit branding. [1:05:05, 1:05:25]: These are in the the street signs, those are just low hanging fruit. But the directional signage, what phase is that, you guys? Uh two and three. So next the next phase is the directional signage, and they're not gonna be in downtown that I mean you'll have some down here, but they're spread all the way out. [1:05:24, 1:05:27]: Yeah. [1:05:27, 1:05:40]: on both Jotaco from starting at Johtaco and starting at exit two twenty eight, which is one thirty eight, highway one thirty eight. So that's where those signages are pointing, downtown, amphitheater. [1:05:40, 1:05:57]: you'll see the directional signs from there. Okay. That so the other signs, the two marquee signs that we were talking about, those are mar those are maps that are insertable. And they were talking about you can take'em out um as the city grows. [1:05:58, 1:06:18]: And those were two kiosk type signs from my understanding where you just put a map in, it's not electronic, it's not electronical board that you're describing your downtown area specifically. So those signs are not directional signs more so than directions on your camp your downtown campus. Kind of like if you were on [1:06:17, 1:06:37]: Or if you want to when you go to a mall, you know you go to a mall and you see a kiosk and it tells you the directions of where the stores are. My favorite, you know, Neiman's over here and Sachs right there. You're right here. Those two kiosks are for that purpose for your downtown campus. [1:06:37, 1:06:57]: Then they have the entryway signs that we were talking about that is not a part of the budget, but they are they're because they're separate, I think 117,000 was it? Those are the digit the key the entryway sign. Per per sign. So it's either for the city hall digital sign. [1:06:57, 1:07:17]: Or the one on Eagles Landing built into the gateway side. I mean well not Eagles Landing, but Johtoco and North Henry Bullo I mean Jotaco and one thirty eight, right? Are you drawing like the Marge the March? Those are in the budget already. Those are those are in the budget. Perfect. Okay within the budget, they're in G dot review right now. All right, so those side [1:07:17, 1:07:37]: are our GDI that that we were trying to get GDI approved or whatever and we have the issue with the one on that we gotta merge with, you know, talk with the county on, those are entryway signs, the big art signs. So you got your gateway signs, then you got your directional signs. The directional signs will be pointing towards our downtown area. [1:07:37, 1:07:45]: But those are on the outskirts throughout both Joe from Jodico and on our end here on 138. [1:07:46, 1:08:03]: You said a hundred seventeen thousand dollars? Yes, for the digital sign. You said that's the low hanging fruit? No, that's for the one outside. That's not the one outside. No, the low hanging fruit is the Merrill Manders Conference Center. The ones that are. How much was that sign? Yeah. Uh I don't have the the anybody know? [1:08:04, 1:08:24]: I can't recall the top of her head, but it'll come up with the other. But just not easy. We got it. It's in our budget though. There's only one final comment on. Because I have an ask tonight, so I just want to know what we're asking for. Okay. Right. We're gonna come back. We're gonna come back. I guess what one final comment. See, this is this is why I I certainly agree. I hear your points, Mrs. Gantt. [1:08:24, 1:08:44]: But I set foot in Avalon. These signs are in Avalon right now, on the ground at Avalon. And we took the JohtoCo standards from Avalon. These boards are at Avalon as you walk along the Bark Guyway as a pathway to where you're trying to go. That's how they got into this package because we went to [1:08:44, 1:09:04]: Avalon on that trip. Now I know certainly that we should have uh you know some diversion. I and and I think we're on the same on the same page. I think you want to do Jotoko eventually. I just say if we're gonna do two, you do one at Jodico and then you come back to the second one as downtown. [1:09:04, 1:09:13]: as we get the people and the foot traffic in Jodeco, you would put the third one here. We just have disagreement on when we're gonna do it. I think both of us agree [1:09:13, 1:09:33]: That we need both of them in downtown. The starting point is I'd like to have one out and one in and then come back and put here. You want to put both of them in downtown. And my contention to that is there's nobody in downtown right now and and they're not coming until we force them to come here. And that that is my overall [1:09:33, 1:09:53]: Thank you for that. And the thing of it is too, once if I understand correctly, even though you haven't been out, I'm assuming you haven't been out to the Bridge of Jodico, but what you mentioned, if I don't want to put words in your mouth, uh, but in the sense that that you it wouldn't be feasible possibly to do that until you get more built out so you have a specific map as the people walk around. It's gonna be a while for us. [1:09:53, 1:10:13]: fully bought built out. It would be I don't think it should be a consideration of we have these two directory kiosks. Right. Where do we put each of them? Right, right. I think the consideration should be when Johako bridges to Johako or that development is is flashed out, but kiosks should make us we should include another kiosk down. Right, gotcha. I I think one at the end [1:10:13, 1:10:33]: Amphitheater is going to promote people who have just come from a show. Hey, I'm hungry. They look at the kiosk, they see what is over there. The same thing for downtown, as as if they're on MLK. It's giving them an understanding of not just what's in the downtown area, but what's surrounded. And that's the same purpose it would serve in the Jodeco area, is to give you an understanding. [1:10:33, 1:10:53]: Surrounding it's to encourage and entice you to check out what's around. But I don't think anyone, because these are again pedestrian kiosks, is going to discern from that kiosk how to get to downtown. Right. They're going to be on foot looking at the kiosk and absorbing the information, but it's not going to give them directions to say left on this right. [1:10:53, 1:11:06]: road right on this road and then you have downtown No no no it's not what is gonna happen is they're gonna be a made aware of the business and as I look out this window right here, Jodico more developed than downtown. Downtown got a long way to go. [1:11:06, 1:11:07]: Well [1:11:07, 1:11:27]: Hi, Ms. Watson. You'll I'll be brief. I'll be brief. One of the things while you're sitting here talking about signs and digital signs, one of the things I'm impressed with is that the sign when you get off the exit to go into Morrow, that digital sign there tells you about all of the activities that they're having in Morrow. Exactly and when you come to Stock Graze, you don't have any of that. [1:11:27, 1:11:31]: Appreciate you. Duly note it. Thank you, sir. Appreciate you. All right. [1:11:31, 1:11:51]: I believe that is it uh now in this aspect. Uh so you don't need a a a a motion on us for tonight. This is a full presentation, this aspect is all. That's correct. I would I would add to the comment that Mr. Washington made. These sign, the digital signs are programmable, which means we can put any kind of message on them that we want. So I'll just leave you with that. [1:11:51, 1:11:57]: All right, so just as an F. All right. Thank you. Appreciate you. Thank you very much. [1:11:58, 1:12:09]: Uh next presentation, CID Community Improvement District presentation, Malika Rivers? Is how you pronounce your name? Malaika. Malaika Rivers, okay. Potum Resources, if I got that right. [1:12:10, 1:12:15]: Okay. Give me s give me straight [1:12:17, 1:12:20]: I guess you need to help her find her presentation, please. Uh yes. [1:12:30, 1:12:31]: Oh not that one. [1:12:38, 1:12:39]: This is [1:12:40, 1:12:42]: Full screen. [1:12:45, 1:12:46]: Yeah. [1:12:47, 1:12:51]: Thank you. [1:12:51, 1:13:11]: I'm Aleika Rivers. I'm the president of Pontum Resources. Mayor and Council members, thank you for having me here today. Um I collaborated with Henry County last year on an effort and provided a presentation that to them uh regarding that effort earlier in this month, and they asked me to come and speak to you about it because. [1:13:11, 1:13:31]: Parts of it do impact the city. A little bit about my background. I'm a 30-year professional in community improvement districts and special services districts. I operated and led the first CID in Georgia for 22 years, and I've uh had my company for the past [1:13:31, 1:13:51]: So I advise commercial real estate, governments, sports properties, civic associations regarding public-private partnerships with a specialty in these special purpose tax districts and in Georgia community improvement districts. So you may be familiar with [1:13:51, 1:14:11]: Community improvement districts, I'll refer to them as CIDs. But they are very, very powerful public-private partnerships. And all of the conversation that we've heard so far over the past hour regarding trails and branding and signage, all of that can be partnered and [1:14:11, 1:14:31]: Collaborated with a community improvement district to help in the development of those types of capital projects and the funding stacks that put those capital projects together. So they do serve a purpose in terms of economic development and are widely utilized all over Metro Atlanta. But this [1:14:31, 1:14:51]: This effort that I'm going to talk about is looking at: is there an opportunity to form a CID or multiple CIDs in Henry County? Henry asked me to put together an opportunity assessment for them, and which is the first stage of understanding about a CID. And we looked at two areas, which are the Eagles Landing Project. [1:14:51, 1:15:02]: Parkway and Jonesboro Road. So I'll focus a little bit more on Eagles Landing since that is uh within the city limits, uh whereas uh Jonesboro Road is an unincorporated Henry. [1:15:04, 1:15:24]: So again, it's about evaluating whether a CID uh has an opportunity in this particular county, in the particular in this particular city. It's a mechanism to bring commercial property owners and governments together to fund to identify and fund uh capital improvements that help not only the value and performance of commercial real estate. [1:15:24, 1:15:44]: But also drive economic development within commercial areas. I refer to them as special purpose tax districts. I will let everybody in the room know, all the homeowners, this is not a tax on residential properties. It has nothing to do with single-family homes or town homes or multifamily. It is a special purpose tax. [1:15:44, 1:15:53]: District that is for commercial properties only. And that means hotel, uh, retail, industrial, and those types of uses. [1:15:55, 1:16:15]: I pretty much just ran through that. Uh this slide is indicating uh again what a CID is. Um and the district is about com concentrated commercial areas. So if you are a property owner with retail that is um designated as retail in your land use or zoning uh or hotel or office or [1:16:15, 1:16:35]: Or other type of similar use, then you can collaborate with the neighbor your neighboring property owner through the special purpose tax district, assess funds, and then use those funds to make improvements to your particular commercial area. CIDs are not mandated by governments. My language about [1:16:35, 1:16:53]: About CIDs is very much about it being a commercial property tool. It's also a tool for governments, but because it's governed by commercial property owners, it really s squarely falls to the commercial property owners in terms of what types of investments uh those owners would like to see. [1:16:54, 1:17:14]: This map shows you where CIDs currently exist around Metro Atlanta. I think there's probably 36, 37 CIDs at this point. But if you look square in the middle, that's downtown Atlanta. That is one CID, that is the CID that is able to bring the most dollars to. [1:17:14, 1:17:34]: To the table through their assessments to the tune of about$11 or$12 million a year. But then you go into other commercial areas that are around$285, that are north of$285, and they all assess and have tax revenues that are very, very different because they're commercial. [1:17:34, 1:17:54]: Commercial areas are very different. If you look down south, you'll see a big gap area, and that includes Henry County. So all of this is simply to illustrate to you that there are commercial areas, 35 districts that are operating in Metro Atlanta right now that have a leg up as it relates to bringing additional. [1:17:54, 1:18:05]: dollars to the table through these public-private partnerships that invest in infrastructure and other community improvements to improve their area, just like the discussion that you had earlier. [1:18:08, 1:18:28]: CIDs are legislatively enabled, so they are provided for in the Georgia Constitution, but the Constitution uh indicates that um each community through either the county or through the city has to have its own local act. Uh either way, uh there are seven allowable purposes: roads, bridges, parking decks. [1:18:28, 1:18:48]: Sewer, stormwater, docking facilities, and then this nebulous and anything else category. But the way that that translates around Metro Atlanta and the and the geographies of where the existing CIDs are is represented on this particular slide. So we've got CIDs that do a lot of investment. [1:18:48, 1:19:08]: Investment in transportation infrastructure, roads, bridges, sidewalks, et cetera. We have others that operate programs like landscaping. They mow and maintain public rights of way. Public safety is another one in commercial areas that want to make sure that either the person [1:19:08, 1:19:28]: Or the reality of their commercial districts is one of public safety, where shoppers can come and feel safe. Litter removal is another thing that CIDs do on the programmatic side. Some are very focused on growth. I ran Georgia's first CID for 22 years, and if you've been to the Brave Stadium, you've [1:19:28, 1:19:48]: See the signage that we've done, the roads that we built, the trails that we put in, you know, all of these things that help to create a place. Excuse me, I might have to get my water in a minute. But but what the CID does and investment and invests in has everything to do with what's in what is most value to the property [1:19:48, 1:20:00]: property owners and what is valuable to the government partners because the CID can't it doesn't own any land. Uh the property owners represent their properties, but the CID invests in public [1:20:00, 1:20:13]: uh public rights of way. It does not invest on private property. So your city owned roads or sidewalks or state o owned roads, uh all of those are uh where the CID's investments go. [1:20:15, 1:20:21]: So when we talk about formation, you know, it's a very um it it it can [1:20:21, 1:20:41]: Uh there is a pr step process to go through a CID because essentially you're t asking people, C ID is great, these are all the reasons why, but the way that you do it is to tax yourself. So that that takes time and that takes effort. But I applaud um governments like Henry County that are interested [1:20:41, 1:21:01]: And recognize the value of a CID and want to um want to share the uh and see what the opportunity is with their commercial property owners. Uh the first step is to um it requires a local act. Again, uh Henry County does have a local act, uh dates back to 1985 when the constitutional provision was uh [1:21:01, 1:21:10]: um was created. It allows I believe it allows for CIDs um not only in unincorporated areas but also within cities as well. [1:21:11, 1:21:31]: CIDs, again, they're not mandated by the government. They have to be consented to by the property owners. Not every property owner, but the majority of property owners. So at least 50%, 50% plus one of the number of property owners within a proposed district that own at least 75% of the assessed properties. [1:21:31, 1:21:51]: Value. So most of those folks they have to throw in in order to establish a CID. I did a study with George Tech a few years ago that did a big deep dive on the mechanics of CIDs, and we found that it takes about four years to start a CID, and many take even longer than that. [1:21:51, 1:22:11]: I run the Chambly Dorville CID, which is uh which we started six years ago. And prior to my helping that community start a CID, I believe that they had been talking about it for probably six, six, seven, eight years. So it does take some time. It really and you progress through the stage of level of intensity through the formation. [1:22:11, 1:22:31]: Has to be approved by the local government. Again, it's a public-private partnership. So City Council, if you uh were to um approve uh uh uh initiate a CID, City Council would have to approve it. Um the CID board sets, sorry, it's governed by a board of directors. I indicated uh representing the various [1:22:31, 1:22:51]: Property owners, and then the board sets the millage rate each year. So as a taxing authority, it it uh sets its millage rate. Uh in Henry County, as well as state law, it allows up to 25 mills. That is a ton of village. Most CIDs choose three, four, or five mils. [1:22:51, 1:23:00]: Mills. So uh but in Henry County, uh you are uh enabled to go up to 25 mils if the property owners so choose. [1:23:03, 1:23:23]: Okay, so our study approach. Um, my organization, again, my company does this with uh with communities, whether the client is the commercial property owner or whether the client is a government. In this case, it's it's Henry County. But we do we start by doing a a data analysis and understanding what the submarket is. We look at the tax digest, zoning, comp plans. [1:23:23, 1:23:43]: State and local legislation, all sorts of current conditions. We get a lot of state uh do a lot of stakeholder outreach. In this case, we had 25 stakeholders that we spoke with, both on the private commercial property owner side, but also on the government side. So I know that I spoke with several. [1:23:43, 1:24:03]: Several of you during that interview stage, development authority, county officials, et cetera. We had 10 meetings, both virtual and in person, just so we could give people a good chance to put their voice into the mix. [1:24:03, 1:24:15]: And then we put together promotional it materials, so slide decks and um we sent letters out, about three hundred thirty-two letters to folks inviting them into um forums. [1:24:15, 1:24:19]: I'm sorry, would you mind if I grab my water? [1:24:32, 1:24:33]: Okay then. [1:24:34, 1:24:35]: Okay. [1:24:36, 1:24:56]: So our effort looked at two sub-areas. The first is Eagles Landing. Again, we'll talk a little bit more on that. And then the second is Jonesboro Road. So Eagles Landing in this case uh we drew the lines uh through the guidance of the uh planning department at the county. So that [1:24:56, 1:24:58]: They had indicated um [1:24:58, 1:25:18]: These these were the this captured the most curse commercial activity in this area of Eagles Landing. Um and then Jonesboro Road, they also advised on those boundary lines. So these are boundary lines that are drawn um through the guidance of uh the planning staff. About 1,100 acres in Eagles Landing, and um if [1:25:18, 1:25:21]: eight hundred sixty seven acres Jonesboro Road. [1:25:22, 1:25:42]: So it I tal talked about uh the stakeholders that we spoke with. Um we met with the stakeholders talk the stakeholders to talk about um both of those sub-areas, and this slide combines uh what we heard. We essentially heard that for both sub-areas uh the needs were pretty similar, or at least the [1:25:42, 1:26:02]: consistency came with some road improvements, uh repaving and access management. Heard a lot about uh the backup on I-75, excuse me, and how that flows into flows into the um uh the the uh Eagles Landing area and and Jonesboro Road uh corridors. [1:26:02, 1:26:22]: We heard about the need for pedestrian improvements as these sub-areas grow, whether it's residential use, commercial use, or otherwise, we need to provide the ability to connect people in a safe manner through sidewalks and other types of local improvements. And then a cohesive design and beautification. [1:26:22, 1:26:30]: Just spent an hour talking about uh that in your uh in your signage conversation. So you're uh you're clear clearly on the ball with that one. [1:26:33, 1:26:53]: So the next uh conversation is is does a uh deeper dive into both of those sub areas, and I'm gonna start with Eagles Landing. Let me orient you to the slide that you're looking at. Again, this is the sub area that we've drawn. Um we pulled the at that time the existing tax digest, which was the twenty twenty [1:26:53, 1:27:10]: twenty four tax digest. These numbers were run almost a year ago now. Um all of that in the blue is commercially eligible for a CID. The lighter blue being general commercial, about uh 283 parcels. [1:27:10, 1:27:30]: And the darker blue being industrial, about 50 parcels. Everything else in gray is not eligible to form to be part of a CID because it is an exempt or non-eligible use, like residential. Okay. The crosshatch, which is important to you, indicates parcels that are in the city of Stockbridge. [1:27:30, 1:27:38]: So not all of these are within your city limits, but by far the vast majority of this area is within the city limits. [1:27:39, 1:27:53]: So what this is saying is that two-thirds of the total number of parcels are eligible uh to to uh join a CID, uh and about a third of them are ineligible uh for the CID. [1:27:55, 1:28:12]: Uh I should say that uh you're probably more familiar with the corridor than I than I am, but um on the uh west side that is uh Jotaquo and um Hudson Bridge. And on the east side I believe that's S R forty one. Yes. So it's about a mile long. [1:28:14, 1:28:34]: We ran some financial modeling to get a better to get a sense of okay, if a CID started in the Eagles Landing area, in the in the sub-area that I just talked about, what could be the revenues that are brought to the table? And it's important to note here that there's really two ways for a CID to get revenue. First is through its tax. [1:28:34, 1:28:51]: tax assessments, which is what I'm gonna talk about this slide, but also it takes its money and it leverages it against other grant funds in order to double, to triple, to quadruple its money. That's the magic of a CID because no CID brings enough money to the table to actually [1:28:51, 1:29:06]: Um, build out a ten or twenty or thirty million dollar work program a year. It's just not possible. The name of the game is about using your tax dollars to leverage it into greater sources of funding through local, state, federal grant programs. [1:29:07, 1:29:27]: So what are the tax dollars? What are the revenues that the the Eagles Landing CID could bring? Again, I talked about what could the possible millage rates be. Twenty-five mills on the maximum side would bring in about five point seven million dollars if everybody participated in the CID. [1:29:27, 1:29:42]: That is a highly unlikely scenario, so let me make sure I state that. On the lower end, it could be more of a realistic case where the board chose three mils or five mills, and you can see what that annual millage rate would be there. [1:29:43, 1:29:50]: Like anything else w as it comes to property assessments, as the property values rise and the millage rate [1:29:50, 1:30:10]: remains the same or increases, so does the revenue as well. So don't need to explain that to anybody. Again, I need to reiterate that this assumes 100% participation and that is highly unlikely scenario for a CID to start with 100% of participation, but you can always add members over time. Okay? [1:30:12, 1:30:17]: This is Jonesboro Road. I'm happy to review it if you like, but I can also skip right by it if you like too. [1:30:17, 1:30:37]: Mayor. I would think we need to go forward. Okay. And uh let's do that. Let's focus on the Eagles Landing. Yep. Okay. So evaluation and recommendations. Uh again, let's focus on Eagles Landing, as the Mayor just said. So we did have some positive. This is the pluses are the positives and the minuses are the negatives. We had stakeholders. [1:30:37, 1:30:57]: Stakeholder interest in understanding more about CIDs. Again, this is the first step of introducing the idea to folks, especially those that might be paying into this particular tax assessment. So there was interest there from property owners. You also are gonna have more density in the area as I understand. [1:30:57, 1:31:12]: That density might be in um non-resid non-eligible use, meaning more residential. I understand there could be multifamily on the horizon, but heads and beds also helps to attract more retail and uses that are eligible. [1:31:15, 1:31:35]: Future growth opportunities we just touched on. And um, as I just showed you, there's higher revenue potential in the Eagles Landing area than there is in uh the Jonesboro Road area. Uh to the plus and minus of Eagles Landing, the value proposition exists. Again, road improvements and sidewalks and brand. [1:31:35, 1:31:55]: And those types of things, but it really does require buy-in. Again, we had first touch points with folks, but really getting them uh involved and understanding why I should pay the tax, what is the value proposition, how are my m are my funds going to be used, and is the government going to partner with us to be successful? Are all things [1:31:55, 1:31:56]: That need to be worked out. [1:31:58, 1:32:18]: So recommendations. Um first one is to as I shared with uh Henry County, might be good to focus on one more than the other. Again, I think that Eagles Landing has uh more opportunity than the Jonesboro Road area. So this is a good conversation to introduce you to this topic. [1:32:18, 1:32:19]: Yeah. [1:32:20, 1:32:40]: We might also want to take the boundary lines of the sub-area that we did and broaden it to be more inclusive of some of the growth that's going to be captured in the future. I understand that the Western Parallel Connector is really going to be a growth driver, and it is a good strategic move to try to. [1:32:40, 1:32:54]: get uh property in that isn't yet developed, but knowing that it will be developed because it has um uh that has upside potential to build the CID's capacity and do more good um in the community. [1:32:54, 1:33:14]: Um assess if the target uh if the corridor, in this case Eagle Landing, Eagle's Landing, but assess if the corridor's future growth is really leaning on residential or really leaning on commercial. Again, I just talked about the plus and minuses. Residential but heads and beds is good, but it is non-eligible. Okay, so that's very important. [1:33:14, 1:33:34]: And um the CIDs have now been around for thirty years. They've all started in commercial areas, but they are a they are a mechanism of real estate trends. So back in the eighties, it was exclusively commercial. If you think of Cumberland, that was the CID that I ran. These days it's not [1:33:34, 1:33:42]: You can't have an office without having a multifamily next to it. You've got to have a live work play community, but those properties are. [1:33:42, 1:34:02]: Are not eligible for a CID, which disproportionately can burden the commercial property owners. So all of these are just the nuances that need to be considered and worked out, especially as it relates to gaining buy-in from the property owners. I touched on mixed-use developments. Important to note that as [1:34:02, 1:34:18]: As Stockbridge Henry um develops mixed use uh vertical um projects, the manner in which they're coded by the tax assessor and the tax commissioner are going to be important because if you have ground floor retail. [1:34:19, 1:34:32]: And upper story residential, if that if they are not broken into separate parcel IDs where ground floor retail is captured as C or whatever its particular zoning is, and residential is captured appropriately as R. [1:34:33, 1:34:42]: The ev then everything is going to be ineligible because it has a residential use on it. So very important things to think about strategically as you think about these financing tools. [1:34:43, 1:34:51]: Another um point that was brought to our attention was to and this is more for the county, maybe less for the city, but understand um [1:34:51, 1:35:11]: The cost of development. This slide indicates what's the cost of development in Henry County. I could say what is the cost of development in Stockbridge? Because again, if we are uh adding an additional tax to the developer's cost, then how does uh that compare to neighboring areas? So it's something to keep in mind. [1:35:11, 1:35:12]: Yeah. [1:35:13, 1:35:33]: The last recommendation is to possibly consider a city business improvement district. This is another type of public-private partnership. It's one that's used m more around the rest of the country. Georgia doesn't really use it at all. We use the CID mechanism. But a city uh business improvement district would allow you to do much of the [1:35:33, 1:35:36]: Сейм став, аблі івенмо. [1:35:37, 1:35:57]: With the benefit being that it would allow the assessment to be placed on residential properties and not just commercial properties. Where again a CID, you can't do that. The kicker with the business uh the city BIDs is that they are only allowable in municipalities and in cities. So it it negates everything in an unincorporated area. [1:35:57, 1:36:03]: areas. So if a C I D itself didn't work, then maybe a B I D has some opportunity there as well. [1:36:04, 1:36:15]: So again, that completes my um presentation. And again, it was meant for the county to get them aware of the effort we just did. Uh but your big takeaways are. [1:36:15, 1:36:21]: There's a better opportunity in your corridor. Um I did hear [1:36:22, 1:36:42]: Uh from many of you uh uh at least a year ago that there was an interest in a CID as a tool, as a mechanism for a public-private partnership and economic development. If you're interested, I would be happy to work with you on that. It does take time, uh, because again, you're talking about educating people on the benefits of taxing themselves. [1:36:42, 1:37:02]: themselves, which takes some time and attention, but eventually it goes from a city or a county-led effort to one where the commercial property owner takes on the responsibility of forming the CID and then managing the CID. So with that, I will stop and happy to take any questions. [1:37:02, 1:37:02]: Questions. [1:37:04, 1:37:06]: Good, Mr. Susan. [1:37:06, 1:37:26]: Ma'am, I wanna thank you and I I I walked out because I actually watched the presentation when you made the presentation to the county. And um uh so it is excellent, certainly I believe in everything that you have done. You've done magnificent work um in the Cumberland Galleria area. It certainly is a model. [1:37:26, 1:37:38]: for where we're going and certainly in the discussion that we just had we're just at the infancy of trying to put together signage and stuff like that. And I bet you got those kiosks in the bre [1:37:39, 1:37:59]: I should say I worked with Sky Design on on all of that other referencing they were really good. That mixed use development works for and that's what you do there, right? So we had a visit to Avalon too. But I just like what you said. I do have one question. Let's say as I s conversed with you last year when you emailed us, does I [1:37:59, 1:38:19]: Already a master association in the Eagles Landing area on the residents already. And I think we talked about that. You said you were unaware of that, but you do know that now you are aware of that. So if let's say the city wanted to do the B I D right, which you would technically [1:38:19, 1:38:33]: be uh able to assess the millage on the business and the residents, but then turn around and give the residents a hundred percent homestead homestead to be able to take advantage of the the B ID. [1:38:35, 1:38:43]: Well I suppose that that would be a strategy that that could uh be put together. Uh I [1:38:45, 1:38:52]: I'm not a your legal counsel, so I I can't provide any legal advice on that, but um [1:38:52, 1:39:12]: I think the question becomes as it relates to the who are the who's invested in the corridor, be it a property owner that's commercial use or be it a property owner that's a residential use, what what are what are they aligned on? What are their needs? Whether it's a C I D, whether it's a a B ID, the structure of that [1:39:12, 1:39:32]: That might be informed by what is the value of having an organization that's going to do something. And again, I I've talked more about the structure and the process of a CID right now. I haven't talked too much about the value and what a CID does, which you've alluded to, but it can do [1:39:32, 1:39:52]: s do so much. Um but what what is it? What is the value proposition that those investors, those constituents, again business, property owner, resident, agree to and agree on? And what is the structure that they'd like to see around that? But I think what you're proposing is something that is [1:39:52, 1:40:12]: Probably quite doable. Um and it's just a matter of working through the mechanics of that. Right, because I I rem uh as I recall, the city of Locust Grove did something very similar with their CID, and then they filed a 100% exemption for all of the residents, so there would not be a resident. [1:40:12, 1:40:18]: residential side to that. So they were only uh imposing a millage on the businesses. [1:40:18, 1:40:38]: Yeah, those it by by state constitution, residential doesn't even apply at all. There's no impact to residential other than getting the benefit of what the busin what the pr commercial property owners have are spending their money on. Right, I'm saying they did that with their regular millage. Okay that the state allowed them to assess a one hundred percent exemption. [1:40:38, 1:40:58]: on the regular millage so that residents would not have to be fearful okay of it. So if we decide to do the VID version which has more options available to the city, that's certainly and then as you had mentioned, the Western Parallel Connector is a lot of undeveloped land but uh a lot of undeveloped [1:40:58, 1:41:18]: And I get calls every day because that's my district about doing mix use. And certainly the pro the model mix use that we have done at Argento is the first true mix use, as you see at the battery, where you have the commercial on the bottom and residential. It's very attractive. The young malicious [1:41:18, 1:41:38]: Millennials love it. And certainly trying to go back to the old style of separating that would not be something that I would personally like to see. And if the VID offered us the ability to have some more flexibility in doing that while exempting the residential, uh [1:41:38, 1:41:58]: Again, that's be something the lawyers would have to look at to see whether or not we would be able to do that. But certainly I w I uh that's the model'cause Argento is absolutely everything that we wanted to have. It's reminiscent of Avalon, it's reminiscent of the butcher done at the battery, and that is the template for a lot of what we [1:41:58, 1:42:17]: what we're planning on doing right across the street from City Hall. We certainly don't want to separate that. We want it all to be together because we like that attractive mix uh of where you're trying to go with that. And I think what I saw from the county commissioners were they were leaning forward for the next step. [1:42:17, 1:42:37]: I think I certainly would like to be in the position to lean forward uh for the next step to see what is next and what we could do. Cause every time I get off that expressway exit and G Dot hasn't and it's the forty-fifth or the fifth forty-fifth day right before they get ready to cut it and the grass is tall and it's litter everywhere. [1:42:37, 1:42:57]: I think about man would I love to have a CID right here containing these areas and then doing uh extra benefit. You know, I know that talking with Mr. McDowell down on the south side, they have actual security that they actually have involved into it. This is a lot of components and tools. [1:42:57, 1:43:17]: tools in the tools box that would be allowed for us. So again, kudos on the work that you're doing. Uh I'm glad that we have you on the team, some one of the best people in Georgia to be able to work on this. I just want to give you my wholehearted support and say let us know what the next steps are. So I I certainly would like to move forward. Yeah. [1:43:18, 1:43:20]: Any other questions from the council? [1:43:20, 1:43:30]: I have one. Go right here, please. I'll have two. Um where so the here we can exha if if the C I D is approved by the owners, the majority of the owners, where would the [1:43:30, 1:43:32]: With the tax uh [1:43:32, 1:43:35]: Commission be collecting those revenues? [1:43:36, 1:43:56]: That's exactly right. Um, the owners need to provide written consent. Um, it's always a jigsaw puzzle till the last minute putting the CID boundary together. This is just to start the CID, it can certainly evolve over time. Uh the tax commissioner certifies the district, makes sure it has met the minimum requirements. Um [1:43:56, 1:44:12]: You all would pass a resolution that actually uh creates the CID at that point. Uh the board is constituted, they choose the millage rate, report it up to the Department of Revenue like any taxing authority, and then the tax commissioner. [1:44:12, 1:44:25]: Um is the one who uh uh commissioner's office is the one that collects the taxes. So on a property a commercial property owner's tax bill, it will indicate that tax district number and the millage rate that was chosen. [1:44:25, 1:44:38]: And that mileage rate will include their fee, the tax commissioner's collection fee. They can that. They can collect up uh they can receive an administrative fee up to I believe it's twenty five thousand a year. Okay. And in addition to that [1:44:38, 1:44:45]: the military, uh for instance at the battery, what did they end up doing? The owners end up [1:44:45, 1:45:05]: What what was their average millish rate? Was it the lowest? Because it doesn't seem like a whole lot if you're looking at like the three mills, you're only getting you're not even getting a million bucks. Yeah, six hundred thousand is hard. With that's a it's not I I know a CID that started with thirty thousand dollars, but they they had a very specific targeted use for that. If you are a what I would call a community [1:45:05, 1:45:15]: facing C I D, like a district facing you want more financial capacity than that. Right. But the idea is to take that six hundred and and leverage it against something greater. But [1:45:15, 1:45:35]: Uh you asked me the about the battery. So I ran the Cumberland CID from um nineteen ninety-six through twenty eighteen, and then you know, uh we saw all of we saw uh many years of real estate stagnation, let me say, and then the bat the the the Braves announced and that just kind of made everything [1:45:35, 1:45:55]: Explode. Throughout that period, that CID uh took the position of we are going to approve our maximum allowable millage rate, which in Cobb County was five mils, and that's very typical for most counties to max it at five. Henry County allows for 25. Um, but there are a some couple CIDs. [1:45:55, 1:46:15]: IDs, again, they're a sort of a special case, but they they do uh go upwards of 25 mils. But that five mils was continuously reinvested to into the community, and it allowed for a lot of investment in public um uh public improvements that helped to attract the Braves. [1:46:16, 1:46:36]: After about three years that that CID dropped its millage rate down a m a point to about four mills'cause they wanted to take a breath and kind of reassess what the next ten year work program would be and not over tax because there's also other financing mechanisms that help to pay pay for the Brave Stadium. [1:46:36, 1:46:38]: Two SSDs among them. [1:46:39, 1:46:55]: Gotcha. Okay. So their max was five mills, but ours is up to twenty five. Is there a su is a is there a law that you're aware of that caps what the mills are for CID? The state allows up to twenty five mills. Henry County's local act also allows up to twenty five mills. [1:46:56, 1:47:16]: Okay. All right. It doesn't mean the board is gonna choose twenty five mills because that's a that's a lot. Yeah, that I can't see an owner doing that. But if they did, that's great too. But I I can't see that. Every year the board, like any taxing authority, um, has to choose its millage rate. So every year every CID chooses, the board selects its [1:47:16, 1:47:36]: It's millage rate. The Shamley Doraville CID has been at five mils. It's a maximum allowable in DeCab County since its inception over the past five years. And just for the public, this is not us talking about we're taxing anyone. Just please know that we're not going to be able to tax anyone. This is if they want it to if the business owners want it to. [1:47:36, 1:47:56]: To tax themselves. That was totally up to them. But I just um I for educational purposes, thank you so much for the information that you provided today. That's really eye-opening. I hope that the owners see the benefit in this and that they see the you know to beautify that area and it as it continues to grow. [1:47:56, 1:48:04]: Um I j I just I hope that they I hope it goes through. I hope it works out great for the county and for the city of Stockbridge. [1:48:05, 1:48:17]: Appreciate the presentation wholeheartedly. So it's good information here. Anybody from this side? Any other comments? Yes. Um thank you again for the presentation, but I I I heard that you said the requirement from this council was simply just a resolution. [1:48:17, 1:48:25]: I guess but my question is trying to get a grasp on or an understanding around it is is there any lifts or anything that we would have to do [1:48:25, 1:48:45]: surrounding um galvanizing the commer c uh the property owners, the the prop the business owners. And then if so, what do those efforts look like? And then how does all of this um unfold for us? Yeah, great question. And uh I should clarify that the process that I articulated that you noted, that's simply the mechanic [1:48:45, 1:48:47]: Yeah. [1:48:47, 1:48:55]: There certainly would be a an entire collaboration among the commercial property owners and the government. [1:48:55, 1:48:59]: Initially as there is a uh [1:49:00, 1:49:20]: Education, whether that's six months, a year, you know, I I I don't know. I don't know the community as well as you do. Um but but the right now at this stage one it's a safe bet to say that it's not the commercial property owners that are coming to me or you asking for a CID. They are not driving this cause. [1:49:19, 1:49:27]: It is the government. First, Henry County, and and now you have expressed interest in it. So I would [1:49:29, 1:49:49]: I would posture that if the city wants a CID and sees value in this tool, you will need to drive the effort. We can figure out what that what that means. But once it's formed, then you really get to work. Because again, the CID is a financing mechanism and provides advertising. [1:49:48, 1:49:56]: Advocacy and is a conduit for you into what the property owners need to be economically healthy. [1:49:56, 1:49:57]: Um but [1:49:57, 1:50:03]: The CIE doesn't can't improve anything because it doesn't own anything, so it has to work. [1:50:03, 1:50:10]: with the facility owner. So that means if it's a city road or a city trail or you know, whatever the property is. [1:50:10, 1:50:17]: Um or if it's state owned by Georgia D. O.T. or i whatever the case is. I'll give you a practical [1:50:17, 1:50:30]: application if you will that I think might be helpful. Let's just take, you know, trails. I heard uh I heard you talk about trails. Um y you as a city are are probably have master plan this whole community identified an entire trail plan. [1:50:30, 1:50:38]: Put it into different segments, do a cost estimate around it. That a CID could help if the CID wanted, if that was of value to them. [1:50:39, 1:50:57]: Could be a partner to you in the table either by driving that effort or supporting you in that effort of development. The CID could also bring dollars to the table, which would help you build your funding stack for segments of that trail component. The CID, depending on w who you had as [1:50:58, 1:51:01]: staff or advisors or you know professional experience [1:51:02, 1:51:05]: could bring their wealth of knowledge in understanding, okay. [1:51:06, 1:51:24]: I've got, you know, some city dollars here, CID dollars here, there's a uh state grant program here, there's a federal grant program here, and we're gonna put together the entire strategy and execute that strategy for you. Again, these are just examples of how CIDs operate, but but still practical applications nonetheless. [1:51:26, 1:51:46]: How long do you think it would take? I know you said sometimes it can range anywhere from two years to six years to get the ball rolling, but in in your professional expertise, what what do you foresee with the district and the area and the space that we have on this Eagle Land Eagles Landing corridor? How how [1:51:46, 1:51:55]: How what's your projection or your professional projection on what you would think it would take time wise and then staff wise for us, what what level of investment from the city? [1:51:56, 1:52:09]: Uh I I wish I could answer that with some certainty. Um part and I say that because I hovered more at a macro level during last year during the course of this effort. [1:52:11, 1:52:15]: I I think it's measured more in a couple in years as opposed to a couple of months. [1:52:16, 1:52:21]: Uh uh here and here's something to think about as you think about the timeline of CID formation. [1:52:22, 1:52:28]: You have to work backwards from the state's specific schedules. So if taxing authorities need to [1:52:28, 1:52:40]: Um uh send their millage rates by July or whatever it is to Department of Revenue, you have to work backwards in time, which means that the CID needs to be in legal existence. [1:52:40, 1:52:41]: And select its millage rate. [1:52:42, 1:52:53]: which means that you all have to approve it, which means that the the tax commissioner needs to provide uh certification, which means consent forms. So you work backwards from there, but all of that is to say that [1:52:54, 1:53:14]: It's cyclical. You can only form or expand a CID essentially in the springtime because of those legal benchmarks that I just stated. You can't just form it anytime. I guess you could, but then you'd have to wait till the next text cycle. So, you know, spring is usually uh your as as you think. [1:53:14, 1:53:15]: Think about an approach. [1:53:16, 1:53:26]: gearing up to hit your legal benchmarks in spring. Now here it is July, June, July of um one year. You are not gonna form a CID. [1:53:26, 1:53:34]: by spring of twenty six, and probably not by spring of twenty seven. That's that's the best answer I can give you right now. [1:53:37, 1:53:37]: Mm-hmm. [1:53:37, 1:53:49]: Okay. So our next steps would be to say we're we're interested like we're interested in this obviously. And I know you explained some things earlier, but uh this aspect uh [1:53:50, 1:53:50]: So [1:53:50, 1:54:06]: Is there a cost affiliated with us? Yeah, I would imagine there to is there some type of contract or something like finan financial aspect as well. No, I I uh you know, I'm I'm a professional consultant and and and if I was engaged then yes there would be. Uh uh my s recommendation or suggestion to you is to [1:54:06, 1:54:26]: uh uh circle back with the county. Um Tucson probably is is has been my contact or or or the city manager and indicate that you've seen it, you're interested and how can you and the county m perhaps collaborate on advancing one. So that that would be my request. That's a good point. That's a good point. Yes sir. [1:54:26, 1:54:46]: Okay, certainly um I want to point this out and I think this is very important. I think it's twenty seventeen or twenty eighteen we actually did pass a resolution here, a generate one, encouraging the business community to form a CID because we were very interested in doing that. Uh Commissioner Robinson. [1:54:46, 1:55:06]: was now was then Councilwoman Robinson. And we passed that here on the board. So we are are in league with what they're trying to do and she's trying to push it uh on their side as well as the rest of the commissioners here. So it's very important to us that, you know, certainly they've employed you. We certainly tried to form a [1:55:06, 1:55:26]: CID on Highway 138. I think we just didn't have quite the effort that we needed in order to make that happen. Thus Lee, they employed you to look into it, who's uh who is uh uh very best at it. And uh maybe we'll circle back to Highway 138 once we get this one done. [1:55:26, 1:55:46]: And then uh look in that direction. But certainly the city has been uh moving in that direction. And again, we did pass a generic resolution encouraging the businesses to form it. But certainly we know we have to do our part and as understood, uh should we bring you aboard. [1:55:46, 1:56:00]: you would be doing a lot putting a plan together for us uh along with the county in order to execute it in order to try to make things happen with your expertise. Is that what would what that's what would be expected if we did and decide to bring you on. [1:56:01, 1:56:15]: Uh I think that that uh structures it and then we can work through what um what the details are around that, yes. I was just wondering here about the resolution. That was one thirty eight. This is Eagles Land, it might have to be a different resolution though. [1:56:16, 1:56:36]: My my understanding is that there was an effort a few years ago with with another firm. Yes, correct. On one thirty yeah, that was for one thirty. On the on that particular one. There was two efforts. The one thirty eight effort was maybe like a year and a half ago, maybe two years, but the resolution that we passed was like twenty seventeen or twenty eight. [1:56:36, 1:56:38]: eighteen it was for the whole city. [1:56:39, 1:56:55]: And uh as you think about it, keep in mind that the sub area boundaries we drew that you may think that those are correct, you may think that they're incorrect. Either way, it's a matter of um just just targeting the areas that you think are most important. Thank you, appreciate it. Good information. Thank you very much. Appreciate you. [1:56:56, 1:57:02]: Okay. New business. Council consideration to approve the FY twenty twenty four budget amendment. Mr. Malazi, please. [1:57:56, 1:58:00]: [7080.9, 7081.8]: To move. [1:58:03, 1:58:04]: Make it big. [1:58:20, 1:58:20]: Yes, to feel. [1:58:37, 1:58:38]: She's [1:58:59, 1:59:02]: Doesn't really slider. It doesn't do a slider. [1:59:04, 1:59:08]: But does it fit in? It has to fit in. [1:59:10, 1:59:11]: It's not easy. [1:59:11, 1:59:12]: Yeah. [1:59:16, 1:59:21]: We would unit to say. [1:59:46, 1:59:48]: With the ones that we were talking about. [1:59:52, 1:59:55]: Are you set, sir? You set, ready to go? [1:59:58, 2:00:08]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Good evening, sir. Um be f in case I'll forget, I have two presentations. Both of my two presentations will need your actions. [2:00:09, 2:00:09]: Okay. [2:00:10, 2:00:25]: And that will be to adopt or to approve what I'm going to present. The first one will be budget amendment. Okay. And budget amendment, this is 2024 budget. Okay. We already spent money. Okay. Um [2:00:27, 2:00:43]: Why we are doing budget amendment because it's only the council that has got authority to allocate spending, not even the city manager has that authority. See the council has the authority to allocate the funding. [2:00:44, 2:00:48]: And it's only the council that can move money from one fund to the other. [2:00:49, 2:00:57]: Once it has been allocated, we can move around. That's we call uh adjustments or transfers. Okay. Within the fund. [2:00:59, 2:01:09]: up to what has been allocated. But what we have been doing, uh I'm putting myself as the staff and management [2:01:10, 2:01:16]: We have not followed those procedures over the years and we have really [2:01:18, 2:01:22]: not being honest. We have let [2:01:24, 2:01:30]: our elected officials down and above all we have uh let down our citizen. [2:01:32, 2:01:39]: So what I'm doing here is to look into areas of the uh budget [2:01:40, 2:01:47]: where we had non budgeted because it was not budgeted but we spent which we call non budgeted spending. [2:01:48, 2:01:49]: And the [2:01:51, 2:02:10]: The next presentation will be a way of correcting these mistakes that we have been written up by our federal funding. And it comes from this side. So we are trying to correct those kind of practice we have been doing. [2:02:12, 2:02:24]: There are some areas we didn't budget. We have to amend that we spent non-budgeted. There are some areas that our projections went [2:02:25, 2:02:41]: where far, either our projections were way be below or our projections were way up, so we have to amend to get into uh acceptable within the framework of where it's supposed to be. [2:02:46, 2:02:48]: I will start with the General Fund. [2:02:49, 2:03:03]: A general fund with department heads, there are some areas that we spent, but overall general fund we at the end of it, these are all revenues. I'll start with the revenues. So the whole of this area is revenues. [2:03:07, 2:03:08]: Up to [2:03:10, 2:03:30]: This total revenues for this is for twenty uh twenty twenty four. Total revenues were uh twenty nine million one hundred and five four hundred and seventy eight. This is adjusted or amended from what was the originally adopted, which was twenty six. [2:03:30, 2:03:37]: six million seven hundred and eleven six hundred and thirty five. So we are adjusting to that. [2:03:38, 2:03:47]: that twenty nine million is the right amount. In that twenty nine you may see that there is almost three million. [2:03:48, 2:04:00]: Depending on how the auditors allocated that, that may not be twenty nine, the three million may be adjusted because that is to do with the uh insurance premiums. [2:04:00, 2:04:08]: Depending on what time it comes, that may be of the previous year twenty twenty three, but if they had already uh [2:04:09, 2:04:13]: assigned that, then that twenty nine million will be actual. [2:04:13, 2:04:25]: So there may be a change after the audit depending on how they um offset that. Is it for the previous year or is it for twenty twenty four? [2:04:26, 2:04:41]: But the way it is, it looks like it will stay there twenty twenty four. So if that's the case, that means we went over what we projected from twenty six million to twenty nine million. Okay. Then they are or move to our expenses. [2:04:43, 2:04:53]: Uh you see the first column on the left side is what we project uh that's what we adopted and the blue column, wherever it's blue, that's where the adjustments are to be made. [2:04:55, 2:05:01]: I'll go to general fund uh to expenses uh and on expenses we start with the governing body. [2:05:05, 2:05:25]: Then we have the city clerk, then it goes executive finance and all those departments. You find out that some they have spent way more than what was adopted. And we have to offset that. We have to either where they have spent less, where they have spent more, we have to allocate more. [2:05:25, 2:05:32]: more to make sure that they are spending within the uh adopted budget, in this case within the amended budget. [2:05:35, 2:05:36]: And the total [2:05:37, 2:05:50]: spend uh expenditure on the government side, you see departments, each one of those, but I want to just go over and see the total expenditure. [2:05:57, 2:06:00]: Our total expenditure will be [2:06:02, 2:06:06]: twenty six million two hundred and seven thousand. [2:06:07, 2:06:12]: Twenty six million two a hundred and seven, four hundred and sixty nine. [2:06:14, 2:06:28]: That's a you see it's twenty six million versus the twenty nine million of our revenues. So there's that three million I was talking about, and that one is specifically for uh insurance, premium premium insurance. [2:06:29, 2:06:49]: Then we have other funds. Some funds you find out that the amount is not much depending on how much we have received or we have not received. So confiscated assets, depending if anything happened during that time. Then we have property and evidence. Then we have other. [2:06:49, 2:06:57]: Those other funds, grant funds. On the grant side of it, you find out that we have more spending. [2:06:59, 2:07:19]: Some areas we have more spending than what we budgeted for or we anticipated to receive because we have not received everything. Because most the almost all of our funds our grants is we spend, then we we are reburst. Draw down, we have to draw down. And draw down is contingent only we have [2:07:19, 2:07:39]: Provided the reports that are required according to the requirements of the grant that we signed with them. So if we have not met those requirements, they may not release funds. As of now, we have more than 500,000 of 2024 that we have not drawn down. [2:07:39, 2:07:59]: We just finished uh working with the DOJ. Last week we had two um one on site and the other one was online to finalize what we are owing them, what requirements they needed us to do. So it went well. [2:07:59, 2:08:16]: well very well. The audits went well, both of them. So we will start having our drawdown. That 500 plus thousand we already spent it, but we need to bring it back to get into our general fund. [2:08:21, 2:08:41]: Uh then there's hotel motel. I'll just be picking up, I'll not be talking each and every fund. Hotel motel, uh what we budgeted three hundred and seventy-five thousand, but as you see, we got more than one million. So with that we can't live at three hundred and seventy-five thousand as the projected receipt. [2:08:41, 2:08:58]: seats, we have to adjust. It's more than three times of what we projected. So that's what amendment is all about. If it's more, you have to amend to to increase. If it's we we got less, we'd have also amended to make sure it's in line with what actually we got. [2:09:01, 2:09:15]: Uh then we have uh sp sip and um T S plus, as you know that we have Splash one, two, three, four, five. Now we are six. There are some that we are still receiving. [2:09:15, 2:09:17]: Uh five we are still receiving. [2:09:17, 2:09:20]: And even though the projects finished [2:09:20, 2:09:37]: We have money still coming in. That money may not be assigned to the uh projects because the time the projects were being done, we are using general fund. So we have to reimburse general fund for those that money that is coming now, those projects that are finished. [2:09:37, 2:09:56]: Okay, stop for a second. To do that, do we you need our proof to do that? You're just automatically gonna do that. I will report everything. Okay, okay. I I will report I will actually like tomorrow I'll be sending you how much money is in each one of those. Periodically I'll be letting you know how much are in those accounts. I just updated this afternoon. [2:09:57, 2:09:57]: Okay. [2:09:58, 2:10:18]: I'm not sure what you're saying. Can you repeat that? You're saying that these are expenses for projects that we've already done and that basically we borrowed the money from us so that when the SPLAS rolls in, the these funds roll once these funds roll in, we pay that back. Is that what you're saying? A good example is SPLAS six. Now Splassi [2:10:18, 2:10:22]: Six, we are about just to receive money. [2:10:22, 2:10:25]: However, we have uh borrowed money. [2:10:25, 2:10:30]: One we say we need to have a public workshop. [2:10:30, 2:10:30]: Mm-hmm. [2:10:30, 2:10:34]: That's we have already one point seven million. [2:10:35, 2:10:39]: then we need the public works vehicles six hundred thousand. [2:10:40, 2:10:41]: then we need to [2:10:42, 2:10:44]: We have already given out almost. [2:10:44, 2:10:46]: three point three milijun. [2:10:47, 2:10:51]: When that money comes in, it will replace where we have taken it from. [2:10:51, 2:10:56]: So there are some areas like public facilities. [2:10:56, 2:10:59]: Ви фінш да проєкт. [2:11:00, 2:11:20]: But there were still some money that were there, about three hundred and something thousand. That money directly it will go to general fund. That is supposed to be zero. So even though there's money there, the usage of that fund is done, is completed. Yes, ma'am. [2:11:23, 2:11:30]: So when we had the meetings and we funded these, we were told that the money was there for the project. [2:11:30, 2:11:47]: in that particular spLost, whatever splas that was. It could have been SLOBOS four. We had sploss four left. We had some of splos five left. We even had a couple of things in splots w it could have been three. It could have been three, four, five, whatever the case may have been. Are you saying [2:11:48, 2:11:49]: That [2:11:51, 2:11:56]: Other money was borrowed from there. Here's my question. Should this have come to mayor and council? [2:11:57, 2:12:09]: Because we didn't receive we didn't have not one meeting. No one has ever come to us and said, This is where the money is gonna be taken from. We've always been told [2:12:09, 2:12:13]: When when we get a someone comes and presents [2:12:13, 2:12:17]: Part of their presentation is where the money's coming from. [2:12:17, 2:12:29]: And it's usually from a spLOS that uh has that is already there, a past sploss, that the money's still sitting there outstanding. So where did that money go? [2:12:29, 2:12:33]: Some idiot and why didn't we well you wouldn't know because you weren't our treasurer. [2:12:34, 2:12:37]: Or n nor were you our city manager. [2:12:37, 2:12:42]: But those things, any type of movement like that, has to come before Mayor Council. Am I wrong? [2:12:43, 2:12:47]: There is no aroc arocation that can be done. [2:12:49, 2:12:55]: No one has authority to allocate, no one has authority to move from one fund to the other besides council. [2:12:56, 2:12:57]: And that hasn't happened. [2:12:58, 2:13:02]: We have let you down, I said that. We have not been honest. [2:13:05, 2:13:10]: But uh let's see we know now what can we do going forward. [2:13:12, 2:13:30]: Madam Clerk, do you have any records of any amendments besides the one amendment request the one time that I can recall within the past four years for an amendment to any of our budgets? [2:13:31, 2:13:42]: Okay, so four years would take you to twenty twenty one. I can say yes, you likely had amendments in twenty twenty one. There have no been [2:13:42, 2:13:52]: No amendment except for the five hundred thousand brought to the council for twenty twenty two, twenty-three, or twenty four. [2:13:53, 2:14:02]: So from twenty twenty two to twenty twenty four, we had no request for amendments except for one time for five hundred thousand dollars. [2:14:05, 2:14:09]: Wes I can tell you what was approved by the body. [2:14:09, 2:14:15]: Okay. And so if there aren't any amendments from that time frame. [2:14:16, 2:14:18]: Then no money should have been moved to [2:14:20, 2:14:21]: From any [2:14:21, 2:14:27]: account, is that correct? That they're basically saying that they had the funding for those those items. [2:14:27, 2:14:37]: Money can be moved as I have done, I have moved, but you need to know because the moving them I've done but I've not even put in the system until you approve it. [2:14:38, 2:14:41]: So we w they would have had to come before Mayor Council, but that did not happen. [2:14:42, 2:14:48]: That's where I say we have let you down and we have let down the citizen of this city. [2:14:48, 2:14:49]: Okay, thank you. [2:14:53, 2:14:59]: Uh then there's the three twenty which is this plus five funding. [2:15:00, 2:15:05]: Um I'll I'll go and get maybe [2:15:09, 2:15:15]: URA URA everything on URA is paying the debt. So we have funding in there. [2:15:17, 2:15:21]: We allocate money to pay what we owe. [2:15:26, 2:15:46]: Then I'll have uh citywide downtown development. We are talking there we have allocations of forty five thousand, each one of them. And sometimes we have some expenses, you find out some there it's coming up to forty five, uh budgeted at forty five, but there's forty eight, five, forty six because there may be some [2:15:46, 2:16:06]: Some expenses that we they didn't reimburse us. We paid it, so it comes to 45 and 40 48. So there's additional three plus thousand. That's actual. Then you found the other one instead of forty-five, uh, there's only forty-nine ninety-eight. That means by that time the year we had not. [2:16:05, 2:16:25]: given them the forty five forty-five thousand that he was uh allocated to them several ways. Maybe we decided we will no longer give them or we have to give them, but it was budgeted we are supposed to give them. Unless council says don't give them anymore. [2:16:31, 2:16:33]: А паблик фасилі авторіти з [2:16:35, 2:16:53]: That one is again we spent uh we spent that's much of the um activities the incoming and what we budgeted, if they are not in line, then we have to make those adjustments. [2:16:57, 2:17:17]: Then we get into um enterprise funds that is to do with water. We have water, sewer, sanitation, all those ones. And on sanitation, you may see there is a uh lazy maybe shortfall of revenues on sanitation. Sanitation, you know, you need to know that it's tax. [2:17:17, 2:17:37]: So it's build and when it comes it comes red. So sanitation is always for the other year, for the following year. It's uh unearned revenues. So it comes red but the auditors will have to move. So even if there's nothing, it will still come. So it's go ahead, sir. So let's go back to [2:17:37, 2:17:57]: the public facilities authority. Yes. Okay, the public facility authority actually financed the amphitheater for us, correct? Through the bonding process. They did the municipal project for us. So the payments as we always talk about the amphitheater will be paid off this year. Okay. Are being facilitated. That's how the payments are being facilitated. [2:17:57, 2:18:17]: That is through the public facilities authority. And that's where that$2.7 million that you indicated there is. And so that paying down the balance so they will be paid off by this uh August, right? So those that that$2.7 million is paying off the balance on what [2:18:17, 2:18:22]: what we owed on that bond. So that bond will be finished in August of this year, correct? [2:18:23, 2:18:32]: That is correct, but this is for that is for t twenty twenty four and twenty twenty five August will be paying off principal as well as interest. [2:18:32, 2:18:52]: Right, right. So this is but but a l all along we've had to make those payments for the last three years or or since we took out the bond, we have to make those payments yearly from the general fund, correct? That is correct. Okay, so I just so everybody understands when we initially financed the amphitheater we did that and look [2:18:52, 2:19:12]: Luckily, we were able to do that at a time when interest rates were historically low. And we got some of the lowest interest rates ever. Of course, if you're out there trying to buy a home now, you know that that is not the case. So by doing that at that time, we were able to take out a bond for$7 billion to pay off. [2:19:12, 2:19:32]: the remainder of the amphitheater uh to uh the the the balance for the amphitheater at a very low interest rate. We're also able to take our three million dollars to start up the police department initial funds and then a million dollars for uh multi-use trails. So uh you know in front of [2:19:32, 2:19:52]: Financial stewardship sometimes is taking advantage of those times and the economic conditions. Because if today we were borrowing those dollars post pandemic, the inflationary costs on the S um the Amphitheater would probably be above thirty million dollars right now as it [2:19:52, 2:20:12]: as a gig as a good guess. And the post pandemic cost in terms of labor and in terms of materials and everything that were put into it, that timing kind of was a was a great was a good thing for us because uh it saved us millions of dollars uh in the process. [2:20:12, 2:20:32]: And certainly subsequent to that, there were some financial missteps and some financial, uh, as you said, letdowns, because as Ms. Gantt has indicated, there was a number of opportunities between 2022 and this date where uh I'm disappointed. [2:20:31, 2:20:51]: that staff did not wasn't more forthright in being pre your joining the council, correct or joining the city. You've done the invest you've done the research. You put the numbers together that we truly needed to see during [2:20:51, 2:21:11]: Those times. So let me condemn commend you for going and doing the research. You've been doing the research since the day you joined the city, and it's been painstaking. It's been out of the public eye. A lot of it has not been uh something that we've uh that we knew that we were looking into, and we had to come to the [2:21:11, 2:21:31]: point where we knew the right questions to ask. And by reviewing the information, we were able to determine and to look in the places that we needed to look to understand what the true finances really look like versus some of the things that we were actually presented with in the past. [2:21:31, 2:21:51]: So kudos to you for just hours on end of exhaustive research and putting together going back long before you arrived in 2022 and 2023 actually recreating that information so that we would have accurate information. [2:21:51, 2:22:11]: inform information to review and some of those k numbers frankly have been very shocking. Uh as you have indicated, you know, with this particular projection, this will be in excess of four million dollars in 2024. It's painstaking to see that number and to understand, you know [2:22:11, 2:22:31]: some of the projections that we saw with PLs that indicated that uh we were doing we were balancing out for those concerts. Some of them we made a little money, some of them we didn't. Those PLs don't uh appear to be related to reality or fact in any way uh at this point. [2:22:31, 2:22:51]: And that's because of the exhaustive research that you have done. And I want to commend you first of all, as uh in addition to that, and the recommendations that you made back in February. You made solid recommendations where the finance department would actually take over uh the stewardship of paying the city. [2:22:51, 2:23:11]: Vendors. You made the recommendation that all vendors be vetted through the internally versus externally, and we implemented those procedures. We didn't yell them out in the public about what we did. We just did it. You've been executing along that line since February. [2:23:11, 2:23:31]: And when we got to the point where we are now where we are actually close to the budgetary numbers, you sounded the alarm, correct? You said, council, as you were supposed to do. That should have happened in 2022. That should have happened in 2023. That should have happened in 2024. [2:23:31, 2:23:51]: Before it did not, and now we're having to go back and retroactively make the adjustments because the city procedure and policy is very clear as you have stated. Any adjustments, in addition to the$50,000 limit that is granted to the city manager, are supposed to come to the city manager. [2:23:51, 2:24:11]: City Council. That did not happen. But as you have demonstrated the proper process of how and to do it, that's why we're here today, right? Because you are stating this is what needs to happen, these amendments need to happen, but your pre the the previous staff did not do that. And that's why you indicated [2:24:11, 2:24:15]: [8655.3, 8656.3]: Thank you so much. [2:24:20, 2:24:24]: That's water soa. Uh then we have uh [2:24:26, 2:24:27]: Storm water. [2:24:31, 2:24:41]: Sorry, West. Everything again that you see in blue is to be corrected or amended. [2:24:48, 2:25:05]: Then this is a summary of all the funds. So I have gone from general fund every fund, then there's a summary here, revenue, expenses, revenue, expenses, up to the end. And I wanted to point out we have two that we designated. I think that [2:25:06, 2:25:08]: That was not awesome. [2:25:10, 2:25:11]: Councilwoman Gantt, you have a question? [2:25:12, 2:25:18]: Well, you just said everything in blue is the corrections. So I'm looking at the amended, that's the one who amended. [2:25:18, 2:25:38]: But I'm looking at like even the revenues. Why would they be are they corrections? Are they just the fact that we actually had more revenue than we expected? So for instance, the total budget of revenue expected was$26 million, eleven dollars, six hundred seven hundred and eleven thousand dollars [2:25:38, 2:25:58]: thousand six hundred and thirty five dollars and ninety two cents. But as of today, we've collected denied twenty nine thousand twenty nine million yes one hundred and eighty seven three forty one forty one. Right this crazy so wa wait a minute. So in in regards to that we're at a surplus right now of two point six [2:25:58, 2:26:03]: 2.8, yeah. Okay, so 2.8. Right now, well it says two point six on here, but two point eight. Yes. [2:26:04, 2:26:07]: Why is that something that has to be corrected? [2:26:08, 2:26:28]: in regards to the revenues. So those revenues you are s talking about, I mentioned about the three million, depending on how you designate that three may not be, maybe twenty six if they designate it that it was for the previous year. But leave it just as it is. We have extra three million. I gave you [2:26:27, 2:26:30]: An example of uh [2:26:31, 2:26:46]: hotel motel, we budgeted for three hundred and seventy-five thousand and we got uh one point one million. If you get into percentage is that is almost three four thousand percentage. [2:26:47, 2:27:05]: That's not okay. Well, it wouldn't be okay if it was expenditures, but it's o it looks great as a revenue. It does. Because what it says is that we were not expecting it. It it it does. It would'cause I wasn't expecting a new hotel that's gonna be coming my way. So now I'm gonna have [2:27:06, 2:27:10]: Instead of the two that we got now and well three. [2:27:10, 2:27:30]: We're gonna have three plus a possible, hopefully we have four if we get the other one off the ground, right? Exactly. So we weren't expecting though that new hotel to come, and it is. So it sounds well there, but when you get it to expenses. Expenses is a problem. Yes. But the revenues here are more s a lot of them are are kinda like. They did very well. They did very well. [2:27:30, 2:27:32]: So it'll allow us to see. [2:27:33, 2:27:44]: You know, this is what we usually get and look at the growth. I I would much rather see that in the revenue side. I don't think this is as much tweaked because it's showing our growth in the city. [2:27:45, 2:28:05]: As compared to w when we get to those corrections in the expenditure side. That's my biggest concern. But it helps us again next year when we are doing projections, we have to project the correct amount. Correct. We should never project three seventy five thousand hotel motel when we know that we got one point something million. And with that it's not just [2:28:04, 2:28:17]: At one point, you talk about tourism is going up. So you you have a lot to talk about within each and every line item. That's the reason why sometimes you have to make those adjustments. [2:28:18, 2:28:21]: When you make another, like now twenty twenty six [2:28:22, 2:28:37]: Twenty twenty twenty six we prepare a budget, our project four hundred thousand, you ask me, but actual it shows you got one million, why four hundred? Okay. And there are some where made up exp revenues just to make up for expenses. [2:28:38, 2:28:49]: I'll give you an example we had male mandoras that you we budgeted for seven hundred and thirty-two thousand revenues. Guess how much we got? Hundred and forty eight thousand. [2:28:50, 2:28:50]: Okay. [2:28:51, 2:29:07]: So even though we we knew that we are we will never get into three hundred, four hundred. So we have to make those changes. Then we also have to ask why did we designate it as a an enterprise when we know that it will not [2:29:08, 2:29:21]: be self sufficient. Correct. Because that conference center and amp theater we designated them as the enterprise, meaning that they will be self supporting. Yeah no. Which they will never, never n [2:29:21, 2:29:23]: Not any of those will will. [2:29:24, 2:29:43]: No, the Mermanders won't nor will the empathetic. Exactly. And that's history throughout. I we went on the convention this past week and I believe every single city says the same thing. They're not there for that purpose. No. And so we're aware that they're not there for that purpose. But uh that I understand us putting it in the twenty twenty [2:29:43, 2:29:44]: Six budget. [2:29:45, 2:30:00]: for the expectation of where we are now with collecting for a hotel motel tax. Because now they are actually there. We can project those numbers. But for these numbers here, it shows that growth potential. And that that was my biggest concern. Why would we do that? So I get it. Thank you. [2:30:02, 2:30:22]: Yeah, and hotel motel could be utilized to supplement the amphitheater itself. It could be if we deserve that. Ho hotel motel, yes it could be visitors are coming. Hotel motel, there's a lot of business, there's a lot of m some new hotel hotels or motels are. Um people are coming to spend money here. They are. [2:30:22, 2:30:42]: And and and it's economic driver for what what we did here. Mr. Alexander, go ahead, please. Let me be very careful'cause I was in the a municipal taxation class. Any of that fund, some of that can go general fund, but in the restricted, it has to be tourism. Absolutely. It cannot be just spent so we want to m [2:30:42, 2:31:02]: Make sure nobody uh interprets it uh as that way. So um Another example we have funded uh four ninety-five that cemetery we provided there ten thousand and we only spent seven hundred, I think mowing and others. It will so there's no need of us leaving ten thousand. [2:31:02, 2:31:05]: and when we know that we didn't spend even five one thousand. [2:31:05, 2:31:15]: Wha what really concerns me though with that three hundred and seventy five number is it looks as though we did not take in consideration the annexation at all. [2:31:16, 2:31:36]: And that we brought in the Holiday Inn and that we brought in these other entities in the annexation. So that number should have been upped. And it it it qu it makes you question how did we totally not uh accommod uh not have any type of projection. [2:31:36, 2:31:56]: By going to the county to see what the previous revenue was for the hotels that were annexed into the city. And it puts you in this predicament where we got to go up and down. This category is up, that category is down. In balancing the books overall, Ms. Gann asked a great question. It does show you. [2:31:56, 2:32:10]: a great a big surplus. But some of that big surplus was cause that three seventy five was significantly under budgeted as you guys are two point five percent off, two point five percent. Right. I mean [2:32:10, 2:32:15]: Two hundred and fifty percent, I'm sorry. Two hundred and fifty percent. So [2:32:15, 2:32:35]: Those are the kind of things that going forward, uh, that we expect those numbers to be accurate going forward. And that's what you're doing. You're setting the template, and you will use these numbers to forecast going forward and league with whomever we select as the new city manager for the budget to be. [2:32:35, 2:32:55]: Uh an accurate picture of where we're going so that this exercise is not necessary on a yearly basis going forward, correct? Substantially, in a substantial way, like this. Surely there's adjustments needed, but not all of these adjustments. [2:32:55, 2:33:15]: Adjustments should be necessary. No, because maybe it has not been for some time. There will be adjustments. At least you are guaranteed there will be at least one budget amendment at the end of the fiscal year. We agreed we'll have one mid year just to see how far have we gone. So we'll have one mid year. [2:33:15, 2:33:22]: Then we'll have some at the end of the year after finishing December. So we may have January, February, we'll have it. [2:33:23, 2:33:27]: I wanted to close this one with the amp theatre. [2:33:27, 2:33:47]: I want you also to understand that last time I presented it was six point four million. Now it has gone up to eight point one million. The reason why there are several things, several factors. You have to know that there are some expenses are not related to operations. [2:33:48, 2:33:50]: Because it's an enterprise. [2:33:50, 2:34:10]: Right. Whenever there's mowing, whenever there's repairs, whenever public works they do anything there, they charge to that fund. So in other words, what you're saying is these were not uh equated to actual operations. They were cap maybe capital expenses and that kind of thing. [2:34:10, 2:34:30]: thing that were factored in any repairs and that kind of thing. It didn't have anything directly to do with concert operations or day to day, but it it s it's work that needed to be done. It's not all we have also depreciation we have to check in there. There's six hundred and six six over six hundred thousand [2:34:30, 2:34:50]: than depreciation for twenty twenty four. Right. So that has nothing to do with the real operation. However, all those factors are important because without them there would no there wouldn't be operational. Exactly, exactly. You gotta do your you gotta you gotta maintain the place, you gotta keep it up, you gotta make sure that [2:34:50, 2:35:10]: So and I think that's uh some of the budgetary things that you have now brought to the surface that before, you know, when we got the got maybe got some of the information we got before, all of those other costs weren't captured. Is that what you're alluding to t as well? And to the yes, sir. And the worst part of it. [2:35:10, 2:35:10]: Yeah. [2:35:11, 2:35:18]: Not the worst part of it, was uh to conceal the expenses of amphet and charge into different fund. [2:35:19, 2:35:22]: That is Fund E three hundred and fifty three, which is city wide. [2:35:23, 2:35:24]: uh projects [2:35:24, 2:35:44]: And that was being done without your knowledge. You cannot move money from one fund, whether from amp uh amphitheater, from without the council's consent. I'm doing the same, but you have to approve it. So let me let me just make sure we start right there and understand what you're saying. [2:35:44, 2:35:59]: What you're saying is when you say being let down you're being very kind and that this was concealed in some ways. Because it involved personnel, so I can't Well when I say that I'm saying not particular any particular person but [2:36:01, 2:36:21]: particular event was actually moved from one category that had nothing to do with the operations of this facility, correct? In that uh a unrelated category. Yeah, from one fund to the other. Right. But but but totally two s unrelated funds. [2:36:21, 2:36:26]: And no one can do that without your knowledge. [2:36:28, 2:36:33]: All right. If there's any any question, comment [2:36:33, 2:36:37]: When you oh go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead, Ms. Barb. [2:36:39, 2:36:41]: I'm gonna try to speak. [2:36:41, 2:36:43]: Very slowly. [2:36:44, 2:36:45]: And calmly. [2:36:46, 2:36:49]: So that I don't lose my cool. [2:36:51, 2:36:52]: Can you hear me? [2:36:55, 2:37:00]: Before I do that, I did write down some questions and points I want to ask. [2:37:01, 2:37:06]: The first one is, um, what citywide projects, if any, [2:37:07, 2:37:10]: Could be or are potentially [2:37:10, 2:37:11]: At risk. [2:37:12, 2:37:14]: Due to lack of funding. [2:37:14, 2:37:27]: Are you aware of any? So Citywide was made to cater for various projects. Like last year we bought or we paid our six PD. [2:37:27, 2:37:32]: vehicles from there, four hundred and seventy four thousand, that's council approved. [2:37:33, 2:37:37]: uh ampheaters one of them to take that one [2:37:37, 2:37:45]: Initially you were f you were getting money from there before you created the amphitheater itself. But [2:37:45, 2:37:48]: Івенчуаліт бікем лайки пасітру. [2:37:49, 2:37:56]: Because if it goes to amphitheater allocation you have to approve it. But here it was not being [2:37:57, 2:37:59]: approved by your council. [2:38:00, 2:38:06]: But I will not go beyond that as I said that it involved personnel, so I can't go beyond that. [2:38:07, 2:38:08]: You have the details. [2:38:11, 2:38:15]: Okay. I don't know if that's answered my question, but thank you. [2:38:15, 2:38:16]: Um [2:38:18, 2:38:20]: One of the other things. [2:38:20, 2:38:22]: Well, this is a point I'll make. [2:38:23, 2:38:26]: In December of twenty twenty two. [2:38:27, 2:38:30]: The FY twenty twenty three budget. [2:38:30, 2:38:32]: was approved for adoption. [2:38:33, 2:38:34]: With insufficient [2:38:34, 2:38:35]: Reporting [2:38:35, 2:38:37]: Of the actuals. [2:38:37, 2:38:38]: Current [2:38:39, 2:38:40]: Year to date. [2:38:42, 2:38:44]: I asked those questions specifically. [2:38:44, 2:38:45]: During the meetings. [2:38:46, 2:38:48]: It's all on record. [2:38:49, 2:38:52]: I've been asking for the financials. [2:38:52, 2:38:54]: Prior to you, Mr Mulazie. [2:38:55, 2:38:57]: Let me first thank you, sir. [2:38:58, 2:39:01]: Thank you for all that you've done so far. [2:39:01, 2:39:02]: To get us to this point. [2:39:03, 2:39:06]: Thank you for all that you've done to [2:39:08, 2:39:12]: Be more transparent in how our city is operating. [2:39:13, 2:39:15]: And how it has been governed. [2:39:15, 2:39:16]: In the past. [2:39:19, 2:39:21]: The citizens deserve. [2:39:22, 2:39:23]: Transparency. [2:39:24, 2:39:25]: I fought for that. [2:39:26, 2:39:27]: Since I've been here. [2:39:28, 2:39:32]: I've been asking for routine financial reports. [2:39:32, 2:39:33]: So that I [2:39:34, 2:39:38]: could be more responsible in my decision making. [2:39:38, 2:39:42]: prior to approving projects and expenditures. [2:39:42, 2:39:45]: I've been fought on every turn. [2:39:46, 2:39:50]: Every time I ask questions in regards to the financial status of our city. [2:39:50, 2:39:51]: I was shut down. [2:39:52, 2:39:52]: But [2:39:53, 2:39:54]: A member [2:39:54, 2:39:57]: Several members of this council. [2:39:59, 2:40:02]: prior to Mr. Berry and while Mr. Berry has been here. [2:40:04, 2:40:05]: I'm tired. [2:40:06, 2:40:09]: To hear several members of this council [2:40:09, 2:40:11]: Now pretend as though [2:40:12, 2:40:12]: Oh. [2:40:13, 2:40:14]: They woke up and [2:40:14, 2:40:16]: Realize that [2:40:16, 2:40:21]: We have not been good stuards of the taxpayer dollars. [2:40:21, 2:40:24]: It's because you have not been holding staff accountable. [2:40:26, 2:40:28]: You haven't been asking the right questions. [2:40:28, 2:40:31]: And you've been targeting me for asking the questions. [2:40:32, 2:40:36]: I'm trying to get financial information in regards to our city. [2:40:36, 2:40:38]: Prior to you, Mr. Malazi. [2:40:39, 2:40:40]: I'm not gonna go [2:40:41, 2:40:43]: I'm not gonna go on a tangent. [2:40:44, 2:40:44]: Or a rent here. [2:40:45, 2:40:48]: Because my questions and concerns are well documented. [2:40:49, 2:40:50]: Over the past [2:40:50, 2:40:53]: Five years and six months. [2:40:54, 2:41:08]: I understand the process, Mr. Malazzi, you're needing the council to approve um this uh FY twenty twenty four budget amendments so that you can complete the auditing process. [2:41:10, 2:41:11]: I can't support this. [2:41:11, 2:41:14]: I wouldn't have I wouldn't have supported [2:41:14, 2:41:16]: Approving the budget amendments. [2:41:17, 2:41:18]: Had they been brought to the council? [2:41:19, 2:41:20]: Last year. [2:41:20, 2:41:23]: Pertaining to the operations of the amphitheatre. [2:41:23, 2:41:25]: Or anything else. [2:41:26, 2:41:27]: I wouldn't have approved it then. [2:41:28, 2:41:30]: And I'm not going to approve it now. [2:41:31, 2:41:33]: I implore my councilmates. [2:41:35, 2:41:36]: Hold staff accountable. [2:41:38, 2:41:40]: I employed the community. [2:41:41, 2:41:44]: Hold your elected officials accountable. [2:41:45, 2:41:46]: Фодесизм дати. [2:41:47, 2:41:48]: and the decisions that they don't make. [2:41:50, 2:41:52]: I'm so disappointed. [2:41:53, 2:41:54]: I don't even know what to say. [2:41:55, 2:41:58]: That that's it. I have nothing more to say. [2:42:00, 2:42:00]: Everything, sir. [2:42:03, 2:42:23]: Mr. Malazi, again, it's already been echoed. We really want to thank you for the work that you've done this this year in presenting this and and digging, doing the corrective digging. Um my short time here um just to kind of echo what's been said, um I've also been a champion of asking the right [2:42:23, 2:42:43]: Right questions and trying to get the information. Um my tactics may be a little bit different. My my position may be a little bit different, but we all try to get to the we all try to get to the end result, which is where we are today. Um I'm grateful that we're here now and I'm hopeful that we can continue to operate the way we're operating now. [2:42:43, 2:42:51]: And I'm hopeful that moving forward, whatever you need, we've already expressed that to you before, whatever you need from this council. [2:42:52, 2:42:53]: You have our support. [2:42:56, 2:43:00]: All right. Yes. Oh yes, ma'am. Go ahead. Um just wanna comment. [2:43:01, 2:43:06]: I don't wanna pinpoint and and point fingers at each and every council member. That's not the case here. [2:43:07, 2:43:08]: We haven't had [2:43:08, 2:43:10]: Um we had one amendment. [2:43:10, 2:43:13]: That amendment was done, I wanna say [2:43:13, 2:43:15]: Was it this year or last year? [2:43:15, 2:43:16]: Twenty twenty four. [2:43:17, 2:43:19]: August of twenty twenty four. [2:43:19, 2:43:26]: in request for five hundred thousand. Unfortunately, that's the only amendment that we had received. [2:43:26, 2:43:29]: We hire staff. [2:43:30, 2:43:30]: Two. [2:43:31, 2:43:41]: Go over the budget to look at says city manager's budget, right? He's to give us a proposal for the budget and anytime there's an amendment to the budget, if we're to go over the budget. [2:43:41, 2:43:44]: They are to or we're close to going over. [2:43:45, 2:43:53]: The job of the treasurer or the financial director is to notify of us of that, and that never took place. Now [2:43:53, 2:43:58]: I can speak for every single council member to include Councilman Thomas. [2:43:59, 2:44:01]: And I beg and plead of each and every one of you. [2:44:02, 2:44:02]: Two [2:44:03, 2:44:09]: Look, don't look at the delusions, but read the facts. They are in black and white. [2:44:10, 2:44:12]: And just one example. [2:44:13, 2:44:16]: Of black and white are minutes to the meetings. [2:44:16, 2:44:36]: All the minutes have been documented. There have been emails and open requests, open records requests. I am aware that there might even be somewhat of questions from some of our mayor and counsel could have very well sought their own legal assistance at trying to receive. [2:44:36, 2:44:56]: receive information and it is from my understanding some of those may have been dropped because what the record showed was that each and every single council member up here at one point or another have said it is that every council member should receive all information they request. [2:44:56, 2:44:59]: That's one thing that's always stated throughout the minutes. [2:45:00, 2:45:01]: As well as [2:45:03, 2:45:10]: Each and every council member at some point has asked or requested for financial information. [2:45:11, 2:45:14]: On April twenty fifth, twenty twenty four. [2:45:15, 2:45:17]: At our eight o'clock city council meeting. [2:45:17, 2:45:21]: That's some of our minutes. We talked about the amphitheater. [2:45:22, 2:45:29]: Um I I don't want to go and bring up every single little detail, but it says in here. [2:45:30, 2:45:34]: Um and just just a few highlighted things. [2:45:35, 2:45:40]: one of the minutes say in here that uh during the discussion [2:45:42, 2:45:46]: One moment. Uh councilwoman suggested [2:45:48, 2:45:48]: Mm. [2:45:49, 2:45:53]: Oh I'm looking at this. I'm not I'm gonna go through all of I'm gonna go through a few. [2:45:54, 2:45:55]: Um [2:45:55, 2:46:08]: That council member for for instance, one of'em, Councilmember Gantt questioned why the city interim treasurer, Lakeisha Gaines, was not in attendance to respond to financial inquiries for the city at that moment. [2:46:09, 2:46:26]: Um, and then we had Mayor Pro Tem Berry at the time. He requested a number of shows, gross alcohol sales, twenty twenty-one, twenty-two, twenty-three, and later asked that twenty twenty-one not be excluded, noting there were only being no noting that there were only being two shows that we included all. [2:46:27, 2:46:36]: Um, Councilwoman Barber stated she has made requests for the same, multiple requests for amphitheater financial reports such as twenty twenty-two, twenty twenty-three. [2:46:37, 2:46:41]: And і it goes on. So we're all requesting. [2:46:42, 2:46:44]: I'm sorry, this is just one example. [2:46:45, 2:46:46]: Um [2:46:47, 2:46:51]: We requested and Mayor Ford even brought to the attention. [2:46:51, 2:46:59]: Of mayor council that we we decided to hold off on making any decisions until we got a financial update. Okay. [2:46:59, 2:47:02]: So that's just one. Let me get out of that one. [2:47:05, 2:47:06]: One second. [2:47:06, 2:47:08]: I'm sorry it's gonna take me a second. I just wanna [2:47:08, 2:47:10]: Make sure I get [2:47:10, 2:47:13]: All of them for you that I I really want to point out here. [2:47:16, 2:47:17]: Um [2:47:21, 2:47:27]: There was a another date and I don't have the actual date, but there is one that says Councilman Thomas. [2:47:27, 2:47:40]: stated and need stated and agreed that the council needs to see the data and information from prior years, twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three, and offer the opinion to allow alcohol to be brought in for concerts. [2:47:40, 2:47:58]: Councilmember Gantt agreed that the financials for prior year should be submitted to the council and offer her support, the alcohol should be allowed at the amphitheater concert. So evidently this particular hearing, and these are just snip bits, okay? These are particular meetings where we're asking for financials. [2:47:59, 2:48:03]: There are there's also councilman Alexander who's saying the same thing. [2:48:04, 2:48:08]: And then we we we go on. One I'm gonna go two nuts or more. [2:48:11, 2:48:17]: But I but I w no I w I believe your points will take it. Well no, I have one more mayor that I really want to get the my point across. [2:48:18, 2:48:23]: Can I help you, Councilman? Yes, one one second. Knowing what I know now. [2:48:24, 2:48:30]: even you received those reports wouldn't have given any correct information. [2:48:32, 2:48:38]: If you recall, October I withdrew the financial report, if you recall. [2:48:38, 2:48:40]: I do recall that [2:48:40, 2:48:46]: So i it's a report is report, but i is it correct report? [2:48:46, 2:49:06]: Correct. And so let me say this. We continued to ask for reports and we received reports. Some of the reports that we got said that we broke even. Some say we were just negative sixty five thousand or somewhere around that number. I have that information I'll share with you. Correct. But we also received a note. Here's one, Councilwoman Barber noted. [2:49:06, 2:49:20]: to the members of council, members of council should not micromanage the amphitheater, noting the amphitheater general manager should be working with the city manager who will keep the full council updated. [2:49:21, 2:49:22]: And so [2:49:22, 2:49:42]: This particular councilwoman gas again asked how the city can help market the amphitheater thereafter. So we were told not to micromanage, and that wasn't by us, that was by one of our other council members, correct? We each and every person in here, and my whole point across uh to get the point across, and I quote. [2:49:42, 2:49:44]: It says. [2:49:44, 2:49:47]: We should not micromanage the anfitter. [2:49:48, 2:49:55]: Noting the amphitheater general manager should be working with the city manager who will keep us in and the full council updated. [2:49:56, 2:49:59]: Now that particular note came from Councilwoman Barber. [2:50:00, 2:50:14]: along with the other notes and emails, even when requested, to what documents to receive. I have w for one, always said in black and white, you can pull every open records request you would like. [2:50:15, 2:50:21]: If one council member asks for a document, make sure that they get them. They should get them. They should receive them. [2:50:22, 2:50:24]: Each and every council member [2:50:26, 2:50:46]: We all have a duty and a responsibility to do what's in the best interest of our city. But we hired staff to do it. And we hired staff to protect the city and to protect us because you're the people who are experts. The people, unfortunately, who hired us let us down. They didn't follow the policies and procedures in place. [2:50:46, 2:51:00]: And they did not warn or give us those warnings. Instead, we received a note, we received information that stated that we were breaking even. And it was for the operation cost, not for the complete total enterprise. Let me be clear. [2:51:01, 2:51:03]: In addition to saying that [2:51:03, 2:51:05]: In addition to that [2:51:06, 2:51:08]: If I'm placed and I wanna make this very clear. [2:51:09, 2:51:13]: People who know me or don't know me should know this. [2:51:13, 2:51:16]: If I ever get a warning. [2:51:17, 2:51:18]: That [2:51:18, 2:51:20]: Our financials aren't in order. [2:51:22, 2:51:41]: From our treasurer, and if uh if any the city manor or or treasurer ever spoke to me, or anybody in the finance department ever spoke to me and said that we have a problem, that we're over budget, the very first thing I'm gonna do is stop drop and roll, meaning I'm gonna stop. [2:51:41, 2:51:56]: I'm gonna reach out to my mayor. I'm gonna ask for a special call meeting. I'm going to ask the mayor or the city manager what is going on and look into it. And I'm gonna notify each and every one of my council members. [2:51:57, 2:52:03]: And anybody who has been placed on notice that we had an issue with our finances. [2:52:03, 2:52:06]: And we were brought that wasn't brought to our attention. [2:52:06, 2:52:08]: Would be just as guilty. [2:52:09, 2:52:28]: And that's the comments I have. Because if had I known immediately, like I do any other thing, and once I once I started looking into things, I immediately reached out to my colleagues. And that is the statement that needs to be across. And it's not about going around trying to make others look bad. [2:52:29, 2:52:39]: My job is to fix the problem. The people that are here that did the problem or created the problem or didn't provide the notice of the problem are no longer present. [2:52:40, 2:52:42]: And I'm and that's unfortunate. [2:52:43, 2:52:48]: But what my job is to do is to not to make it look like I'm over here trying to hide something. [2:52:48, 2:52:55]: Or like somebody's trying to do something underhanded. When each and every single council member up here [2:52:56, 2:53:06]: Mr. Alexander's in the minute several time asking about finances. I'm in here asking about financials. Mr. Mayor Berry, Councilman Thomas, and Mayor Ford. [2:53:07, 2:53:16]: There are minutes in the meeting that says that we he even continued until we got certain information. We can only rely on the information that was given to us. [2:53:17, 2:53:21]: And that is the point that I want to make. [2:53:22, 2:53:30]: We move and shape based off of the level of expertise of the people who work here full time Monday through Friday. [2:53:32, 2:53:43]: Our job is to legislate and to make those decisions based off of the information that is given to us. If the mere inf if inf information is not given to us, we can't make the right decision. [2:53:43, 2:53:44]: That's it. [2:53:45, 2:53:46]: Mr. Alexander, go away, please. [2:53:46, 2:54:06]: Let me just say this. And Councilwoman Gantt, you're absolutely right in your assessment of what has taken place. Everybody up here has asked questions and gotten information that was erroneous. And we actually had a special call meeting last year at the amphitheater facility. [2:54:06, 2:54:26]: where we drilled uh uh down deep into what has happened. And the response from Council Woman Barber was stop micromanaging the empathy of the manager and the city manager. That was the response. Because I was the one leading the argument. Miss Gantt was chiming in, Mr. Barber, m Mr. Berry also. [2:54:26, 2:54:46]: Councilman Thomas was asking questions. We were trying to make decisions down to whether uh how alcohol affected the sales, down to that level of whether to allow alcohol in outside alcohol or not, to fine-tune to make sure that we were looking to be uh profitable this year. [2:54:46, 2:55:06]: And the first thing that we did, why did we make those moves in February? Because we have been asking questions all of the previous year. That's why, even though we did not know about the level of the losses, we have been asking questions and some of the things that we were seeing along the way did not quite add up. [2:55:06, 2:55:26]: And we were asking questions. So, in an effort to get a better control over that, we brought a lot of the things in-house, as I indicated previously. We brought the vendors in-house, we brought all payments in-house so that when we reached a level that was that would trigger the trust. [2:55:26, 2:55:46]: To alert us, and we knew that we had the right person in place with Mr. Malazi doing the work. And as Councilman Berrier said, and Councilwoman Gantt, and even Councilwoman Barber said, Mr. Malazzi has done an amazing job. And with accurate information, you make good decisions. [2:55:46, 2:56:06]: One of the things that I don't do, and I don't think anybody up here does, is to make decisions without the facts. Now, getting the reports that we got, we kept requesting them, everybody requesting them. Councilwoman Barber requested them, Councilman Gantt did, uh Mayor Pro Tem Berry did, Councilman Thomas did. [2:56:06, 2:56:26]: When we got the document, the document said for this particular concert, we made a little money. For this particular concert, we lost a little bit of money, but we got an overall balance for a year that we ended up spending$10 million. That told us that we only spent$2.3 million through August. That report was a hundred. [2:56:26, 2:56:46]: could not have been had any touch with reality because we ended up spending ten million dollars in twenty twenty three. And the report that we had saw when we had requested the information said that through the beginning of August we had only spread two point three billion dollars. There's no way that we could have spent an extra [2:56:46, 2:57:04]: Extra$8 million in that time. And no one sounded the whistle to say, this is what's going on. We need to do these transfers. And there's a reason that we have these city policies. These city policies are to protect the city and to protect the residents. And honestly, [2:57:05, 2:57:08]: This is not over with yet. There's a long way to go. [2:57:08, 2:57:28]: We will continue to look and continue to do the research till we find out where every dollar and every cent went and every uh particular document will be scrutinized to determine how that document ended up being incorrect. That's what we're saying right now. That document was incorrect. But what into what went into making [2:57:28, 2:57:48]: That document incorrect? What went into us getting erroneous information when we asked these questions? Because again, asking the question just begs the question: why was the information that we were given inaccurate in such a way that it painted a picture that wasn't attached to [2:57:48, 2:58:08]: what the final numbers were were again. And again, the work that Mr. Malazi has done reconstructing the last three or four years now that we have accurate information, we made the decisions that needed to be made. And we're about solutions right now. The solutions, one of the first solutions was bringing Mr. Malazi [2:58:08, 2:58:24]: aboard last year before anybody started raising before there was this public outcry or or or or attachment. Make no mistake about it. This process has been ongoing. And if you did any open records requests, [2:58:25, 2:58:45]: The documents that you were seeing were requested by somebody. Ask yourself that. The document that you got was already created. They were created because I asked questions. Ms. Gantt asked questions. Mr. Berry asked questions. Those are the documents that you're seeing. You see the trail of us asking questions and getting the documents. [2:58:44, 2:59:04]: documents because you requested them already. Many of you have. How why were those documents created? Because we asked them to be created. And if you continue to follow the path, you will see more and more of them. And then you will see some of the outcomes that we will see. But what are the things that you don't do is you don't go out screaming the bullhorn. [2:59:04, 2:59:13]: When you're doing an investigation, or you're actually looking to uh look for what's going on or trying to determine something. [2:59:13, 2:59:33]: Why would you want to go out and alert alert everybody so that everybody's now looking over their shoulder when you're actually doing the work? The work was done openly and quietly and do open records. You saw the work being done, but no one once thought, how did these documents that they're sending? [2:59:33, 2:59:37]: [10778.0, 10788.8]: And certainly, there's a lot of questions that we want to ask too, because some of the things that you all think that we were aware of, like uh redactions, certainly. [2:59:49, 3:00:09]: I want to know what you saw and when you saw them and what was taken and what was removed. Certainly, those type of things are something that we want to know the answer to as well, because certainly we trust staff to give you the information that is requested and move forward with and how and who determined what [3:00:09, 3:00:29]: What you got and what you did not get, certainly we became aware that, and certainly we want answers to that question too, is why were documents going out being redacted that we had no knowledge of, that they were being that that was happening. So in essence, what we want to do is to understand [3:00:29, 3:00:35]: and have everybody to understand this is not the ending. We this meeting is certainly not the ending. [3:00:35, 3:00:38]: We might not have even reached the [3:00:38, 3:00:39]: Midpoint at this point. [3:00:40, 3:01:00]: The investigation will continue to go on until we come up with ever with every answer and to every question. But certainly I won't be out there screaming at every step of the way what we're doing, because some of the times you might not want to know everyone to know. You want to, but it'll be available to every document. [3:01:00, 3:01:15]: will be available through open records and certainly um you haven't heard the last of where this is going, there will be a resolution and certainly that resolution will conclude all of the facts. Thank you. And Barber go ahead please. [3:01:15, 3:01:29]: Yes, um, thank you, Mayor. Councilwoman Gantt ran she read the meeting minutes from April twenty twenty-four, but she didn't read um the other portions of my comments. [3:01:30, 3:01:31]: In which [3:01:31, 3:01:33]: I have consistently stated [3:01:34, 3:01:36]: We need major sponsors. [3:01:37, 3:01:40]: To fund the operations of the amphitheater. [3:01:41, 3:01:42]: So that our city [3:01:43, 3:01:46]: Із на фунда процент ата. [3:01:47, 3:01:51]: She didn't read that portion of the meeting minutes. But nonetheless [3:01:52, 3:01:55]: since January of twenty twenty, [3:01:56, 3:01:57]: When I was sworn in [3:02:00, 3:02:04]: I have been asking the same questions. [3:02:04, 3:02:05]: Over and over. [3:02:06, 3:02:09]: Why is information being withheld from me? [3:02:10, 3:02:13]: Whether it's contracts or the financials. [3:02:14, 3:02:15]: Just last month. [3:02:16, 3:02:20]: I was waiting for mister Malazian, I'm sorry, to put you on the spot. [3:02:21, 3:02:23]: To send to the full council. [3:02:25, 3:02:35]: all of the financials regarding the twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three, and twenty twenty four expenses and revenues for the amphitheater. [3:02:36, 3:02:38]: Because he said that he was going to send it all to us. [3:02:40, 3:02:41]: Well [3:02:41, 3:02:44]: Council members are interfering. [3:02:46, 3:02:48]: They're going directly to staff. [3:02:48, 3:02:49]: And telling them [3:02:50, 3:02:53]: Telling them not to send the information. [3:02:53, 3:02:54]: To me. [3:02:55, 3:03:01]: to me specifically, and they're giving them misinformation. [3:03:02, 3:03:14]: Telling Mr. Malazi he reports directly to the mayor to send the financial information to the mayor and the mayor would distribute it to the rest of the council. That's not how this works. [3:03:15, 3:03:17]: That's not how this works at all. [3:03:18, 3:03:21]: To suggest since I've been on this council [3:03:22, 3:03:29]: There has been a consistent theme of there must be a consensus of three members of the council. [3:03:30, 3:03:32]: In order to receive information. [3:03:32, 3:03:33]: That's false. [3:03:35, 3:03:36]: That's false. [3:03:38, 3:03:39]: You're misleading the public. [3:03:39, 3:03:41]: And you misled me too. [3:03:41, 3:03:43]: Which is why I had [3:03:44, 3:03:45]: To hire my own attorney. [3:03:46, 3:03:50]: and submit a demand letter in which y'all basically gave that the middle finger. [3:03:51, 3:03:53]: I just got today. [3:03:55, 3:03:56]: Information. [3:03:57, 3:03:58]: That was submitted to the city. [3:04:01, 3:04:03]: Via my demand letter. [3:04:04, 3:04:09]: dated november twenty twenty four. I just received some information today. [3:04:09, 3:04:11]: That I requested back then. [3:04:12, 3:04:13]: So if you think I uh [3:04:14, 3:04:24]: I'm real clear as to what has been happening. Whole lot of council interference and a whole lot of staff that have been complying with that interference. [3:04:24, 3:04:26]: Into the financials of the city. [3:04:27, 3:04:28]: I become a target. [3:04:29, 3:04:36]: Long time ago, because I would not stop asking questions. And I'm not going to stop asking questions. [3:04:36, 3:04:41]: I am not here for politics. Do right by the city. That's all I want. [3:04:42, 3:04:44]: That is all I want. [3:04:44, 3:04:50]: You now asking questions like you're also very concerned. No, you should have been concerned. [3:04:51, 3:04:51]: Bien [3:04:52, 3:04:54]: When staff was not providing monthly. [3:04:55, 3:04:58]: quarterly or min your budget reviews. [3:04:59, 3:05:02]: My requests are well documented. [3:05:02, 3:05:05]: Me speaking so boldly? [3:05:06, 3:05:11]: During our public meetings, it was me raising the red flag to the public. [3:05:12, 3:05:15]: So that you all will hold these folks accountable. [3:05:15, 3:05:16]: Every one of'em. [3:05:17, 3:05:19]: It took me ten months. [3:05:19, 3:05:22]: To receive independent audit results. [3:05:22, 3:05:25]: From our twenty twenty two financials. [3:05:25, 3:05:27]: All of them know, they all knew. [3:05:28, 3:05:29]: Why weren't they asking? [3:05:30, 3:05:33]: Why were they why weren't they asking the same questions? [3:05:34, 3:05:36]: Probably because they all received it. [3:05:37, 3:05:40]: I have not. I had to jump through hoops. [3:05:40, 3:05:44]: to get twenty two twenty twenty two financial results. [3:05:46, 3:05:48]: It is really [3:05:49, 3:05:56]: I am flabbergasted that now I'm hearing council members here sounding so very concerned. [3:05:57, 3:05:59]: These concerts are not free to the city. [3:06:00, 3:06:02]: Somebody's gotta pay for it. [3:06:02, 3:06:09]: And the notion that one concert, the revenue from it, will pay for the next concert is all crazy. [3:06:09, 3:06:15]: Crazy, but that is what your logic have been. That's what you all have been explaining to the public. [3:06:21, 3:06:41]: I'm done. Mr. Barrett you have any comments or you have yet to speak. I just wanna know if you have any comments at all. I don't know if it's it's important to add anything at this point. I I think the work has been done and and everything's been stated that needs to be stated for the sake of time. We need to uh get to the business of things. Well I just wanted to make sure I asked you that. [3:06:41, 3:06:47]: Yeah, nothing to ask. Sir, you're asking for uh Ms. Malazi, you're asking for a motion to approve this adjustment here. [3:06:47, 3:07:05]: And and and I and I agree with you, sir. We need to we need to move on. And I understand it might have I I understand that. But we need to honestly move on. I understand. But I have I do have but we don't need to keep going back and forth. We're not going to go back and forth. I don't know about all that because No, we don't stap stand by stand by one. Stand by please. Yes, Miss uh Miss Holiday. [3:07:07, 3:07:08]: Yeah, go ahead. [3:07:11, 3:07:12]: Well [3:07:15, 3:07:15]: Yeah. [3:07:16, 3:07:36]: Ms. Gantt. Thank you. No, no. I'm not done. I'm not. We need to finish this. We need we need to finish this with this vote. I agree. So so so it's almost over. Excuse me? It's almost over. Um it's just I want to go through three bullet points right here and I'm it's not long. I'm just reading it. See the point of it is count point or point count point point another point. [3:07:36, 3:07:41]: point. I thought we had two respondents. Well how about this? How about we go ahead and make a motion to vote? [3:07:42, 3:07:56]: Well Mayor, I actually I from my understanding we had two responses and I think that that you did not respond you responded more than twice twice already? No. I responded once. I read the minutes t of some of the meetings, just exam a small example. [3:07:58, 3:08:00]: Any emotion to accept this? [3:08:00, 3:08:16]: I'll promise you I'll make the motion after this, but I really want to respond to this. I understand that. I understand. I understand. Okay. I need a motion to accept Mr. Malause's presentation. So move. Is is okay, is there a second to motion? Is there a second to the motion? [3:08:18, 3:08:19]: No second to the motion. [3:08:20, 3:08:21]: I need to respond first. [3:08:23, 3:08:27]: I guess you got your chance to respond, so I'm saying the motion. We need to prove it's what he's asking. Okay. [3:08:28, 3:08:34]: Mayor, if I can make a motion, but I before I make the motion I would like to respond to something real quick. [3:08:35, 3:08:42]: The intent is for his mo if what he presented to us to be passed. I understand the motion right now we're we're a standstill. Well [3:08:43, 3:08:46]: May I comment before we make the motion before I second the motion? [3:08:47, 3:09:07]: If it's going to help us get the motion. It will help us get the motion. Without a counterpoint here? It will. Go ahead, Ms. Gandhi. Okay. All right. Um, just a few pointers, real quick. All of us want major sponsors. We've always asked for sponsors. We love our sponsors. Um, there have been opportunities, and we've been told before there have been opportunities for sponsors. [3:09:07, 3:09:27]: for sponsors and sometimes we weren't able to get sponsors or the sponsors were looking at some of our meetings at our behavior, just like the city managers that were pending. Sometimes that we were been told that we can't get certain sponsors or some certain sponsors walked away from deals or certain people who applied for city [3:09:26, 3:09:35]: manager positions may have walked away by looking at some of our meetings. So um and that's in 2020 and so I just want to [3:09:35, 3:09:36]: Point that out. [3:09:36, 3:09:54]: In regards to the city manager receiving financials directly, the city manager, the our mayor is our interim city manager at this time. I based off of the org chart, from my understanding, um the treasurer or the director of finances to report to [3:09:54, 3:09:55]: Our city. [3:09:56, 3:09:57]: manager. [3:09:57, 3:10:12]: which is now the mayor, or you can report you can report to all of us. I report it to council. Okay, good. So you report directly to Mayor and Council. But I wanted to make that bring that to attention. There no one has said that there has to be a consensus to receive information. [3:10:13, 3:10:16]: There has to be a consensus to vote on an issue. [3:10:16, 3:10:30]: not to receive documents and information knowledge. So if I for instance asked our uh HR or asked our assistance uh or asked our clerk for some information [3:10:30, 3:10:50]: I wouldn't need a consensus for of three people to get that information. It's just information. It takes a consensus to move something or a process and procedure to be in place or go along, to pass an ordinance, to pass a resolution. Those are what consensus takes to direct staff to go in a particular manner. [3:10:50, 3:10:59]: But to ask for information, that information is used for us each to make our own educated decisions on the way we're going to vote. [3:10:59, 3:11:09]: That that is something that I just want to make clear of. Um and I also recommend and I highly, highly, highly ask that you just go and look through the minutes. [3:11:10, 3:11:30]: Go and eat, read each and single every time, or go look at some of those emails that some of you requested. And I can guarantee you not there's not one time where we say don't give somebody some information or that we too want the information or provide us with a copy as well. I think each one of us has our own style of doing. [3:11:30, 3:11:39]: things. My style may very well be different than someone else's style. I don't believe in you have to be loud to get what you want. [3:11:39, 3:11:56]: I believe that you can talk and try to figure out what's going on without necessarily showing your hand. And so I I'm not saying that one person is I'm responsible for taking it up for another person on this council, none of that. It's all about [3:11:56, 3:11:59]: Just each person has their own way. [3:11:59, 3:12:07]: an own style of leadership. That doesn't mean we're not trying to get to the same point and position. Some of us are quiet. [3:12:07, 3:12:23]: And we're not just being passive. We're gathering up as much information as we can first. Why show your hand? That's my con that that's the way I look at it. Um having said that, Mayor, I second the motion to approve. Um [3:12:24, 3:12:25]: I I will second the emotion. [3:12:27, 3:12:27]: Yeah, yeah. [3:12:28, 3:12:33]: Oh Mr. Mer Mr. Berry made a motion. You second that motion. All right. Okay. All in favor of motion, please indicate. [3:12:35, 3:12:42]: All polls. I oppose based on principle. That's for the record. All right, three four. Yes, ma'am I'm sorry, I do need to respond. [3:12:43, 3:12:45]: You need to respond? Go ahead. [3:12:46, 3:13:06]: You got the right votes. Three three three one vote. Let pass. Okay, go ahead. Go ahead. Um, Councilman Alexander, you may ask a question regarding open records redaction. Yes. And why the public was not receiving information that was not redacted, and you were questioning why they received it that way. I will tell you that the clerk's office. [3:13:05, 3:13:17]: especially um Cassandra Lester does an amazing job with the voluminous open records report request that we have received over the last two or three years. [3:13:18, 3:13:18]: Mm-hmm. [3:13:19, 3:13:39]: We redact in our office standard basic open records information that is confidential information, name uh emails, phone numbers, date of birth, and that. Anything other than that is at the direction of legal. [3:13:39, 3:13:52]: Clerk's office is the one that actually performs the redaction, but we receive directives on specific information to be redacted other than the standard redaction information. [3:13:52, 3:14:05]: Thank you. I appreciate that. Maybe we'll have some personnel discussions in uh executive session. So I think that would be the next step. So certainly answers are due and we will certainly uh explore that. [3:14:07, 3:14:20]: Yep. Mr. Malazzi, we have council consideration to adopt the federal financial reports procedures and problematic pragmatic process report procedures this has here. You sir are gonna brief on that. [3:14:21, 3:14:23]: Thank you, Mayor. Uh [3:14:24, 3:14:27]: Our audit twenty twenty two, twenty three [3:14:28, 3:14:33]: Twenty one, twenty two, twenty three, in each of those audits we were [3:14:35, 3:14:50]: I would say written up or we had been told that our reporting was not up to the standard. One of them was the non budgeted spending we would spend [3:14:50, 3:14:51]: Where it was not budgeted. [3:14:52, 3:14:54]: Remember when the audit is up? [3:14:55, 3:15:09]: We have to give it to government finance officers association is a requirement. We have one to give to Georgia's uh state the audit. If we have got grants they will share with the federal government. [3:15:09, 3:15:29]: And them when they say, especially when we receive any amount that is over five hundred thousand, we will have a single audit. And in all our audits they found out that we were not following the procedures agreed during the receipt of our grants. So we were told [3:15:29, 3:15:35]: for we were given conditions for them to lift up uh [3:15:36, 3:15:36]: The [3:15:37, 3:15:54]: Issues that we didn't do accordingly, we have one to pass the financial these are federal financial and the programmatic reporting procedures. So meaning that the [3:15:56, 3:16:16]: Every quarter we have to submit a report which we are for uh we are falling short of. And also there are procedures of how to send that report, who prepares the report. So programmatic would be let's say we have got a uh copy. [3:16:16, 3:16:19]: That means the the [3:16:19, 3:16:33]: Project managers will be from PD. They are the experts in knowing how that grant will be utilized. And they will be the one that will be reporting the w will be writing the programmatic. [3:16:34, 3:16:48]: project how it's going, working with our grant administrator plus me to verify at the end of uh the report before submitted. That's what is in these uh reports. [3:16:50, 3:17:10]: Month end, month every month, what are the procedures? If the reports are to go on the twentieth of every month or at the end of the quarter, what are the procedures? We have in our financial system, financial system will send it to the program department, that could be public works, that would be [3:17:09, 3:17:25]: B PD. They will review it. They will agree with the financial statement. They will add in the projects. From there it goes to the grant administrator. She will review or he will review. If it's correct, then they will come to me. [3:17:26, 3:17:32]: I will verify and sign it because it's requirement that someone of uh [3:17:34, 3:17:54]: In this case, it will be me as a financial as a treasure to be the final signature. And there will be some areas where they will need the mayor to sign, they will need the chief police chief to sign uh different requirements, different reporting. Like now we have just applied for two. [3:17:54, 3:18:11]: Two grants, those ones the mayor has to sign on behalf of the city. But monthly, uh quarterly, I'll have to sign to make sure that we are meeting the requirements. That's what you will be adopting in these two. [3:18:13, 3:18:26]: this presentation that I'm having. So like on the program side of it, program manager review, that's the department. So program manager must review and approve their [3:18:28, 3:18:48]: respective F F F F R that is federal financial reports by the twentieth of the month. This is just an example. FFRs shall include a summary of grant expenses for the quota. The department have to agree that the report financial has [3:18:48, 3:19:08]: Produce for them, it agrees on how they have spent it. When they are writing the projects or programmatic, it has to be in line with the reports that finance has produced. For finance to produce a report, that means they spent, they have their invoices. [3:19:08, 3:19:15]: We paid and is in agreement to what they wanted that money to be used in their department. [3:19:22, 3:19:42]: Uh then you have programmatic reporting requirements. So those will be reporting schedule. You have the schedule which I have already uh talked about. And then you have reporting responsibilities and process. So if it's uh in the department you have the deputy who give you an example, the assistant. [3:19:42, 3:20:00]: Chief is the one that is responsible in that. Then he has to have someone to prepare for him to review before it goes to the uh grant administrator who will review it, then he give it to me, then who send it. So that there is a check and balances. [3:20:03, 3:20:18]: This once you accept this one, we are required to send it to Federal by thirtieth of this month with some other requirements that we have already made. So once you approve it, it has to make sure we have to make sure that the [3:20:19, 3:20:26]: You have approved it and we have distributed to the departments, they know the procedure. [3:20:28, 3:20:29]: And we'll follow them. [3:20:31, 3:20:51]: Okay, I tell you what, this is the tomorrow's the twenty-sixth. Does this this have to be made can it be electronically sent to them or it has to be mailed? Everything is electronic. Electronically sent. I copy your mail. And now is there something else upon approval, which I imagine that the council is gonna do this? Is there something maybe I might have missed it, to do this? Is there something additional I have to sign to go along with this? I think [3:20:51, 3:20:55]: This one we say actually it will be in the minute. [3:20:55, 3:21:15]: Okay. So it's something that they didn't need a resolution, you would have signed a resolution. But once in the minutes I'll get something uh added into it and I also uh make sure that all departments involved they have got this one because it's a requirement that they have departments have'cause that's in four days. Well actually [3:21:15, 3:21:21]: Three days. We have a time. Okay, all right. We have a time. So be it. Mr. Mess uh question. [3:21:23, 3:21:43]: I've got move my turn my mic on here so everybody can hear me. So certainly what you have done is continue to build on the recommendations that you made previously last year. Yes, sir. You're continuing to build on the recommendations that you made in February and you are ongoing. [3:21:43, 3:21:53]: Well you need right now, just like the previous action that you have, the council, you need our support to implement the solutions, right? [3:21:53, 3:22:13]: That is correct. Right. So we can complain all day up here about what the problem is, but when you come to us with the solution and we don't approve your solution, we're just spinning our wheels. Because that previous action that we just voted in brought us back will help bring us back [3:22:13, 3:22:19]: back into compliance, right? Without that action, the city would have been out of compliance, right? [3:22:19, 3:22:25]: Without that action you have made because that money is already spent. So in other ways [3:22:26, 3:22:28]: They [3:22:29, 3:22:35]: The audit cannot continue, cannot finish because I have to move money from where there was no money. [3:22:35, 3:22:37]: To put to [3:22:37, 3:22:45]: To balance the budget. Right. It's already spent. So so what I'm trying to get at, there is no room for the council not to act. [3:22:46, 3:22:50]: We have to act in order to get the solutions put in place, right? [3:22:51, 3:22:55]: It right now we have to th I'm asking a question to the treasurer. [3:22:56, 3:23:07]: It is incumbent upon the council at this point to get into compliance, to act, and we say that we trust you. [3:23:07, 3:23:27]: I do, but I can say with my mouth that I trust you all day long. Miss Barber, please. I can continue to say that I trust you, but when you come to me with the solutions and the solutions is solid and you point it and you present it to it, and then I say, well, you come to me with a solution, but I'm not gonna do anything, that's not an option. [3:23:27, 3:23:47]: option is we gotta our job is to legislate and to support solid stuff when it comes to us. So if anybody else don't have anything to say, I would go ahead and make the motion unless someone that wants to speak. Make a motion. I want to make the motion to re to approve the action by the treasurer. Uh [3:23:47, 3:23:49]: uh that has been put forth before council. [3:23:50, 3:24:10]: Sir, second emotion. Second. All right, all favor, please indicate. See now decision. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Okay, so you got it you say you got enough time to do all this and get it done by thirty. Actually they already have. They know that I'm I'm here, so they have copies of everything I'm presenting here. All right. Yeah. Tomorrow they'll be going. All right, sir. Once I get something from the [3:24:10, 3:24:18]: City Craig to show that he you have you have a suspense on the clerk. You just you just suspense the clerk there, Ms. Melazi. [3:24:19, 3:24:29]: And attorney. Oh, excuse me. And the attorney as well. You're a powerful treasure. Okay. Okay. Thank you. All right, uh discussion. Downtown alleyway sanitation trash collection. [3:24:30, 3:24:31]: Gentlemen, please. [3:24:34, 3:24:35]: Okay. [3:24:40, 3:25:00]: Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, sir. This the item before you again, it's a discussion-only item. Uh it's before you on behalf, I'm I submitted it on behalf of the Downtown Development Authority. Again, who I have with me this evening is the chair, Mr. Kenya Cook, and Mr. Warren Washington, who is a merchant. [3:25:00, 3:25:10]: And he's also the vice chair of the DDA and they'd like to discuss this particular item with you all at this time. Sure. Thank you, Gerald. Gentlemen, please. [3:25:11, 3:25:16]: First of all, thank you, Council, for this opportunity to present to you. Uh this matter was uh [3:25:16, 3:25:36]: uh existed before me becoming the chairman. So I uh asked that uh Warren Washington join us so he can give the background in detail and answer pertinent questions. But one of the things I would like to say is that uh just to go on record, Ms. Cassandra Lester has been an awesome support to us. So please thank you for loaning her to us. I just wouldn't say that publicly. [3:25:36, 3:25:37]: But I yield the floor to Mr. Warren. [3:25:39, 3:25:41]: To them yeah, there you go. To the mics, I appreciate it. [3:25:42, 3:26:02]: So the um the DDA board comes to the council today to to help us move forward with a solution to have a a combined trash compactor that will support all the businesses on the MLK district um business block and also have a one [3:26:02, 3:26:22]: uh Greece collecting bin for all the uh business as well, mainly the restaurants. And so our ask is to have the city construct that and to move forward in supporting that one particular area instead of having multiple trash uh bins in the back and having one a [3:26:22, 3:26:40]: the cement pad, the one trash compactor and also one grease bin so that uh we can move forward and help beautify that area and it goes into the the uh ultimate goal of the plan for beautification and making it a destination. [3:26:41, 3:27:01]: All right, my initial question would be about the grease trap. I mean, would that if not a grease trap, a grease bin. Called Grease Ben. It's different. Grease traps are in the ground. A be a grease bin is the collection bin for the grease uh that you take out and you pour into a bin and then there's a private company that comes and picks up that. Thank you, because that's what I was gonna say. How how you got it? [3:27:01, 3:27:21]: I I I got it now. I I'm okay, no problem. I understand. I understand. Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. Okay, thank you. I really appreciate it. You know, the guys have been working really hard as volunteers. Thank you, Mr. Cook, for putting in extra hours. And we're just kind of he's kind of kind of feeling our way through these things, and Mr. Sanders is assisting along the way. [3:27:21, 3:27:41]: Way, but this is actually a part of the RSVP plan, which is this uh coordinated trash compactor. Miss Moore actually talked about this uh when she presented many years ago, and having the community collector uh comp trash compactor back there and the and the pad being installed underneath. [3:27:41, 3:28:01]: It uh along with the grease collector. This is like the old old oil. When the oil comes out of the burner, fryer and it's burnt, they put it in there, it's recycled. This is part of the recycling program where the oil is actually recycled and put back through the system. Uh the request tonight is [3:28:01, 3:28:21]: um is for us uh you you uh to uh have our attorney and the city the the city attorney and the date attorney uh they wanted some guidance to make sure that the council was on board with supporting this action so the city attorney and the DDA attorney can sit down and write and write up a MOU. [3:28:21, 3:28:41]: So that the process can be legal between the DDA and the city. And certainly, you know, certainly we could have adopted, tried to adopt one, but they wanted to come to you. And I and I recommended that we have a discussion first and that we talk about it, and that we have the two or [3:28:41, 3:29:01]: Attorney sat down, put the document together, and that the council would indicate that you uh generally with a consensus do support uh the idea of installing and following the RSVP plan with the trash compactor uh and the grease, with the city installing the uh paying for the compactor and the [3:29:01, 3:29:21]: Concrete pad for both of these items and the dispenser itself. It makes sure that and again it's kind of incentive to any business to locate in the downtown area that they will have available trash collection at that site and that it will be uniform and that we won't have eight or ten trash collection. [3:29:21, 3:29:27]: Crash beans back there outside uh as we move forward uh with our alleyway project. [3:29:28, 3:29:30]: Any of the Commerce Council? [3:29:31, 3:29:51]: Not really a comment, just the the grease trap thing is something I thought of a while back and asked that we do that. I think it would help for yeah. Yeah, I'm a grease bin and I I um asked for that because I think that it's something that can be very costly for [3:29:51, 3:30:09]: for other businesses and restaurants. And it would be a um a draw to that to bring other businesses in the area, knowing that it's kind of like a it's not a tax abatement or anything, but it's kind of an incentive to actually be there because they're going somewhere else and they need to add one and they're a [3:30:09, 3:30:25]: And they're out of$20,000. So to have one that is is for the entire area would be, you know, a a godsend to those businesses. And it actually promotes other businesses to come to the area. [3:30:26, 3:30:27]: Ms. Barber Glay, please. [3:30:29, 3:30:39]: Thank you, Mayor. Um, I know we discussed this during our recent retreat and one of the concerns that I raised was these are private [3:30:39, 3:30:40]: Owners. [3:30:41, 3:30:46]: And I just don't feel comfortable um with the city spending money. [3:30:46, 3:30:46]: And [3:30:47, 3:30:52]: private owners um they made the investments [3:30:52, 3:30:56]: Um I would assume that they would have the resources or capital. [3:30:56, 3:30:57]: Two [3:30:57, 3:31:03]: make the necessary improvements. I know that it is our downtown and our downtown needs a lot of [3:31:04, 3:31:04]: Um [3:31:05, 3:31:06]: improvements. [3:31:06, 3:31:13]: Um, that's what we were looking for investors to do to help us to revitalize so that the city wouldn't have to. [3:31:14, 3:31:16]: Come out of this covers to help. [3:31:17, 3:31:21]: with a hundred percent of the efforts. So that's one of [3:31:21, 3:31:22]: That's my main concern. [3:31:23, 3:31:23]: That this [3:31:24, 3:31:28]: Those properties down there are all private investors. [3:31:29, 3:31:32]: They knew what it was when they purchased them. [3:31:33, 3:31:35]: With the low [3:31:36, 3:31:37]: Purchase price. [3:31:37, 3:31:43]: I would assume that they could use that as capital to make the necessary improvements. I just don't [3:31:45, 3:31:46]: I just can't. [3:31:47, 3:31:50]: Um, I don't feel comfortable with this right now. [3:31:50, 3:31:51]: That's all. [3:31:52, 3:31:53]: Ms. Burr, do you have any comments at all? [3:31:54, 3:32:08]: Uh just a question, um, in light of what's been said, have you guys um gotten to c have all the business owners in the alleyway had private meetings to see about doing this independently before bringing it to council or [3:32:08, 3:32:28]: I think this has been part of the plan way before us and uh everybody was bought was on agreement with this. But also I just want to be and uh let you know, um other municipal municipalities are doing this for other businesses from Morro to McDonough to uh various other places, they're already doing it for businesses. [3:32:28, 3:32:29]: [12752.7, 12772.6]: And this this was a discussion piece, but uh I think part of the thought process was uh or at least if I gather this right from Mr. Alexander's comments in reference to what you all thinking, that uh you want us to give approval for the both attorneys to look at this together, come up with some type of MOU. You just need a kind of con consensus for that approval. Is that what you'd like to do? Correct. [3:32:53, 3:33:13]: All right. So if there are no other comments, is there a a motion that is needed to to do this? Well, one one quick second. We can't just approve it without knowing a cost affiliated with the process. [3:33:13, 3:33:33]: MOU but it have to be signed and have to be I the other doc doc uh data I guess in reference to cost would have to be available too. That's what I'm thinking of. I mean is the DDA gonna gonna take the cost on? Is that what we're doing? No. Since it's downtown? Um my question is we need we don't have a cost. So if we're just [3:33:33, 3:33:36]: [12817.1, 12822.1]: to approve the thought of just researching and finding out what the cost would be. [3:33:42, 3:34:02]: to have those bins and whose responsibility who's gonna pay for it that service? Who's gonna pay for the is it gonna be a collective group effort to pay for the trash service? Will it be cheaper that way? Would it be individual businesses? Or are you saying y'all want the city to pay the cost of all this? I think we're in the beginning stages of of developing the MOU and then [3:34:02, 3:34:05]: And we'll come back with that discussion after the attorneys approved the language. [3:34:05, 3:34:25]: Okay, so that does that doesn't require a vote though, does it? What w what what we generally want to do is to have a discussion and to have a general consensus that we support the attorneys sitting down and talking about this. Now this has been the plan since Miss Moore was here and [3:34:25, 3:34:45]: And the city was going to pay for it. That was a part of the alleyway project that we allocated$350,000 for. The actual service, which is the trash collection, and then the grease collection, the businesses would have to pay for that. But installing the infrastructure and the in Miss Moore's presentation when she was [3:34:45, 3:35:05]: Here. The bus the city was going to pay for the trash compactor. Because the last thing we want to have in the middle of our alleyway projects is a bunch of trash cans sitting out there behind the buildings and all of this disorder. No, I can agree with that. The trash compactor does that. So the city was going to pay for that along with the uh pad for all. [3:35:05, 3:35:23]: of the business not one particular business but every business that located down there will be able to do that so they don't have trash all over the place or the trash cans uh all over the place. So the idea was again the city well it's part of the RSBV plan if you go back and look at it the city was going to [3:35:24, 3:35:30]: Pay for this infrastructure as a part of the Al it's a part of the alleyway project in the RSVP. [3:35:31, 3:35:42]: Okay. I just want if y'all can get us a cost. I mean I can't of course I can't vote on something. I don't know what the cost would be, right? But I'm definitely in favor of it. I it is definitely an incentive. [3:35:42, 3:36:02]: Um and it's specific to our downtown. So if I could just get a a cost, I don't think we have to vote on how about just a general consensus say that we want the attorneys to discuss this and come back later later time for further information. Would that be asking a question before you vote? Is that okay? Is that appropriate or inappropriate? No, they were voting. [3:36:02, 3:36:06]: I have a question for uh Councilman Bart. Okay. Well yeah, if you are well sure, go ahead. [3:36:06, 3:36:09]: Not not to be labored and we can talk offline. [3:36:10, 3:36:12]: We have other proposals coming down the line. [3:36:13, 3:36:33]: But so we're not at this impasse again. What would make you more comfortable with these decisions? Because while you state that it is a private endeavor, they are taxpayers and they are citizens and other businesses. And I'm actually a taxpayer or property owner and I'm in a downtown. But so we can make this process move smooth smoother. What would make you more comfortable? [3:36:33, 3:36:38]: before before we waste any time and we come with the right information. Cause I want to be prepared next go round. [3:36:43, 3:36:49]: I can answer. Did you qu normally questions are directed to the mayor? [3:36:50, 3:37:00]: But your question off. Oh fine, no problem, no problem. No problem. But if it is it is my understanding today. [3:37:00, 3:37:17]: Um the council is not voting on anything. We're not being asked to vote on anything. In fact, on the agenda, this is supposed to be just a discussion and it sounds like a continuation of the discussion that we had at the retreat in March. [3:37:17, 3:37:18]: And [3:37:18, 3:37:26]: You're not presenting anything new other than what we already talked about. So I support what Councilwoman Gantt has said. [3:37:27, 3:37:29]: Bring back some figures. [3:37:30, 3:37:38]: If you are looking for the city to partner in this endeavor, I also know that no former council. [3:37:38, 3:37:47]: Can bind this current council. And while there may have been discussions in years past about what to do with this alleyway project. [3:37:48, 3:37:50]: That can't bind this new council. [3:37:51, 3:37:52]: So [3:37:52, 3:37:55]: We can continue the discussions offline, just you and I. [3:37:56, 3:37:58]: Um, but I don't feel comfortable. [3:37:59, 3:38:00]: Uh supporting [3:38:01, 3:38:02]: The city. [3:38:02, 3:38:03]: Funding. [3:38:03, 3:38:23]: this particular endeavor a hundred percent at all. Understood. Thank you. And I think you have consensus for the attorneys to have conversation. All right. No problem. Thank you, gentlemen. Appreciate it. Thank you. All right. Announcements of upcoming meetings and events. Upcoming meetings, announcement that council meetings would be held, city council chamber meeting dates and location times of subject change. [3:38:23, 3:38:43]: Or contact City Hall offices at 770-389-7900 or visit the website at www.stopbridgega.org for updates. 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Join Castman Alexander for the District 5 community cleanup on Saturday, June 28th from 9 a.m. to 11 a.m. at Hudson Bridge Road. [3:40:23, 3:40:25]: Parking is available at the Walmart. [3:40:26, 3:40:46]: Tomorrow night, man. Was that on there? Yeah, I already mentioned that, sir. I believe our mother missed that. Okay. All right. I thought I'd mention that. Okay, so anyway, uh I'm sorry, it's the next page. I haven't gotten to it yet then. Okay, it's coming. Got a whole nother page here. Thank you, madam clerk. Stockbridge Middle. [3:40:46, 3:41:06]: Main Street and the city of Stockbridge government probably presents this fun community event. Get to Steppin' Stockbridge. Let's walk together on page, excuse me, on June 28th at 9 a.m. Uh complete the full round trip to go or to go on your own pace. Community members are highly encouraged to shop for fresh produce in a downtown market. [3:41:06, 3:41:26]: far uh excuse me farm to table market. It's from nine a.m. to one p.m. location one thirty ML King Senior Heritage Trail. That's coming Saturday. I join Mayor Ford for the monthly Meet the Mayor Monday, June 30th, 10 a.m. to uh noon, city and the city hall meetings by appointment. The Stopper is Police Department [3:41:26, 3:41:46]: Will host the third annual State of the Public Safety Address Tuesday, July 1st at 6 p.m. at Merrill Manor's Conference Center. Join the city of Stockbridge for a free July 4th celebration at the Amphitheater. Gates open at 5 p.m. Concert started at 7 p.m. featuring Jagged Edge. And there will be fireworks there as well. Stockbridge Main Street presents a [3:41:46, 3:42:06]: Family movie night featuring Inside and Out 2. Friday, July 11th at 7 30 at Clark Park Community Park. Clark Community Park. This is also a free event. Bring your own long chairs and blankets. Twelve and under must be accompanied by an adult. Join Councilman Thomas and Councilman Berry in a partnership with a monthly Bingo Bank. [3:42:06, 3:42:26]: Bash on Wednesday, July sixteenth from ten a.m. to twelve noon at the Murray Mano's Conference Center, and lots of fun to be had by all. Join me once again, uh, Mayor Ford, for the monthly meet the mayor, Monday, july twenty eighth, at ten a.m. to twelve noon, the city hall meetings are by appointment. Join Councilman Thomas and Army Veterans and continue to salute to all your [3:42:26, 3:42:46]: long, please send your pictures of veterans with their names, ranch, branch, rank, and years of service. Join Councilman Thomas for Don't Trash Stockbridge Initiative Center around education, highlighting causes and effects and littering illegal dumping. More information of course to follow on that. 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Please contact Ros and Rawls to schedule appointment to meet the mayor or more information on council initiatives is six seven eight eight three three three three four four four four four eight or by way of email at R Rawls at Stockbridge G A dot or G [3:43:46, 3:44:06]: Okay, concert season Saturday, June twenty eighth. Legacy Legacy Legacy and Kindred uh the Family Soul will be on concerts for that. Saturday, July twelfth, all white party featuring the maze band, Juba Smith, uh Eric Bonet, David Hauser, Christopher Williams, Mike Phillips. [3:44:05, 3:44:25]: And Vivian Green, Saturday, July 26th, My Girl's Night Escape with special guest Maya. Saturday, August 16th, and Sunday, August 17th, Stockbridge Jazz Festival, hosted by Tommy Davidson, featuring David Bignon, Jazz Funk Soul, EFX All-Stars, Shaw. [3:44:25, 3:44:45]: Chandra Curley, Kurlauli, I think is how it's pronounced. Anyway, Sana uh Sonny Emory, Norman Brown, Jennifer Holliday, Karen Briggs, Eric Darius, and Keiko Matsui. Saturday, September 13th, for Lovers and Friends, featuring Tank, special guests uh Leif Jennings and Jenny Wine. [3:44:45, 3:45:05]: Friday, September 6th and uh Friday, September 6th and Saturday, September 7th, the Southern Soul weekend featuring King George, Tucker, Westlove, Poke Bear, TK Soul, Tawan Moore, and Tonio Armin Armeni. And then uh Saturday, September 20th, do the Ragat Tour. [3:45:05, 3:45:25]: twenty twenty five features Ziggy Marley and Bernie Spears. Uh for my comments, um I will tell you that uh obviously the uh this past June nineteenth we had a wonderful uh June nineteenth celebration. It was a clear good night and a rest of development they have a wonderful concert uh this past week. [3:45:25, 3:45:45]: Myself and the rest of the council were down at uh Savannah for several days, 20th to 24th of June, for our GMA annual conference. And had a great training opportunity and networking opportunity that we always have. And I want to congratulate Ms. Barber on receiving her education. [3:45:45, 3:46:05]: Educational uh advancement and the uh what's that certificate of distinction for all the classes she has taken thus far. And uh I also got recognized for being part of the inaugural 400 club. 400 plus hours of education training in the last 12 years, and myself and uh eight other people were inducted in this 400 club for this aspect. [3:46:05, 3:46:10]: And um on that note, uh I'm sorry, ma'am. [3:46:11, 3:46:23]: Thank you very much. I appreciate it. I appreciate that. It is a big deal. Thank you. And um on that note, it of course it's hot outside, so make sure you stay cool, be hydrated. [3:46:23, 3:46:25]: And it is hot Atlanta. [3:46:25, 3:46:27]: And so just be safe and be careful. [3:46:27, 3:46:36]: On that note, uh council, I don't know of any uh any executive sessions issues or discussion, so I'll ask for a motion to adjourn our meeting. [3:46:36, 3:46:37]: Is there a second? [3:46:38, 3:46:40]: All fair, please indicate. [3:46:40, 3:46:43]: Okay. We are now adjourned. God bless you all and good night. [3:47:01, 3:47:02]: All right, nice.

--- title: City Council Special Called Meeting date: 2025-06-16 source: 2025-06-16_City_Council_Special_Called_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:47, 0:01:02]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, I have now, let's see here, four fifty-six and I'll call the special call meeting to order on this um Monday, June 16th. And uh please stand for a prayer if you can. [0:01:04, 0:01:24]: Lord, thank you for bringing us together once again to do the city's business. Allow us to conduct and make logical decisions this evening. Be us always, Lord, in your name. Amen. And do pledge legislation. Pledge legions. The United States of America into the Republic before which it stands, one nation, under God, independent as well. [0:01:23, 0:01:25]: So the liberty and justice for all. [0:01:28, 0:01:30]: Madam Clerk, roll call please? [0:01:35, 0:01:35]: Present. [0:01:48, 0:01:49]: Present. [0:01:50, 0:01:51]: Present. [0:01:51, 0:01:52]: President. [0:01:53, 0:02:00]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate that. Council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. Mayor. Yes, sir. [0:02:00, 0:02:01]: Uh adopt the agenda. [0:02:02, 0:02:03]: Thank you, is there a second? [0:02:04, 0:02:08]: Second. Okay. Okay, Mr. Berry, second that all favor, please indicate. [0:02:08, 0:02:20]: Okay, so announced decision there. Okay, what first we'll have new business council consideration to approve the 2025-2026 liability insurance policy. Please. Renee. [0:02:31, 0:02:32]: A afternoon. [0:02:34, 0:02:35]: Is it Mike on? [0:02:38, 0:02:39]: Afternoon to you. [0:02:45, 0:02:47]: Property in my instruments. [0:02:48, 0:02:50]: have before you is council's consideration. [0:02:51, 0:02:53]: Happy look. [0:02:53, 0:03:12]: Of the 2025 general liability insurance for the city. Our renewal um date is uh upon us and we are pending, we're going through an audit right now based on our uh vehicle list. So what we're doing is we're asking for pending approval. [0:03:13, 0:03:14]: for the insurance that will [0:03:14, 0:03:17]: It needs to be re renewed by June nineteenth. [0:03:18, 0:03:20]: And then we will come back once the [0:03:21, 0:03:22]: uh audit is completed. [0:03:22, 0:03:25]: to have you uh approve the [0:03:25, 0:03:26]: Final numbers. [0:03:27, 0:03:29]: Okay. Any questions, council? [0:03:32, 0:03:33]: Wait f I please? [0:03:34, 0:03:37]: The current contract expires June nineteenth. [0:03:37, 0:03:38]: Yes. [0:03:39, 0:03:40]: Okay. [0:03:40, 0:03:44]: One of the concerns that I have consistently raised. [0:03:45, 0:03:56]: is um you leave no room for the council to provide guidance with you if you're bringing this to us three days before it expires. [0:03:57, 0:03:59]: We don't have any other choice. [0:03:59, 0:04:07]: But to approve it because it's being dropped in our lab. What I like to see is a compare is this the only quote we have? [0:04:09, 0:04:29]: Yes, this is the only quote. This is the broker that we have, and we're not asking, we're asking for pending approval for the insurance so that it would not lapse until we finalize our premium, our numbers uh that we need to do with the vehicle listing that we have. So it's strictly for the auto liability portion of [0:04:29, 0:04:35]: So we're just asking you did this go through procurement? [0:04:37, 0:04:41]: This this is a contract renewal. We don't have to go through procurement with this. I know, but [0:04:42, 0:04:48]: If it so it tells me that it didn't go through procurement, if it had gone through procurement [0:04:48, 0:04:49]: They would have known [0:04:49, 0:04:50]: Months ago. [0:04:50, 0:04:52]: That this was coming up for [0:04:52, 0:04:55]: renewal and they would have done their due diligence to get [0:04:56, 0:04:58]: additional quotes just to compare. [0:04:58, 0:05:00]: Cause I see that [0:05:00, 0:05:04]: With this renewal that you're asking for, there's an increase. [0:05:05, 0:05:07]: A premium increase. [0:05:07, 0:05:09]: Over a hundred thousand dollars. [0:05:10, 0:05:26]: Based on the increase in the number of vehicles that we currently have with the city, there has been uh a number of vehicles that have been purchased. Some vehicles were not on the uh curmer policy that was already covered. [0:05:26, 0:05:34]: When the in we went back to the insurance company and they found that those vehicles were on there that they not h covered from the previous year. [0:05:35, 0:05:38]: Then they added it in in there so there is an amount [0:05:39, 0:05:41]: There is going to be an increase. [0:05:41, 0:05:41]: From [0:05:42, 0:05:44]: One forty two to one seventy two. [0:05:44, 0:05:49]: We are looking at what those n what that number is, those thirty vehicles are. [0:05:49, 0:05:51]: Um to determine if the [0:05:52, 0:05:54]: Increase is warranted. [0:05:54, 0:05:57]: um under the auto liability insurance. [0:05:58, 0:06:05]: And under this we didn't have to go out to bid. I don't believe we w went forward with the current broker that we we have on on record. [0:06:08, 0:06:09]: Thank you. [0:06:09, 0:06:10]: You're welcome. [0:06:10, 0:06:13]: Any other questions, Council? Yeah, go right here, sir. [0:06:14, 0:06:26]: Yes, Miss Wheeler, were those thirty vehicles that were previously not on there, were they uninsured? Are these new vehicles or these vehicles that have been in the inventory for a while? They're pending the inventory as [0:06:26, 0:06:36]: um as as we speak. So we're determining if those vehicles were actually on the vehicle list that we sent over to the uh [0:06:37, 0:06:38]: insurance company. [0:06:38, 0:06:41]: For this year, when it came up for renewal. [0:06:41, 0:06:47]: And when the numbers when it came back, we started working on um reviewing that list. [0:06:47, 0:06:50]: This would have been brought to you uh thirty and thirty days ago. [0:06:51, 0:06:51]: But [0:06:51, 0:07:00]: Due to the increase in the premium, we wanted to verify the information that we were we had given to verify that the premium was justified. [0:07:00, 0:07:05]: And where what department of the thir do these thirty vehicles belong to? [0:07:06, 0:07:21]: We're looking at pub well, public works and police have the bulk of the vehicles that we're looking at. So that's where the audit is taking place. Okay. Do you have a breakdown of which of the thirties which which thirty go to public works? That's what we're trying to determine now. [0:07:21, 0:07:22]: Okay. [0:07:25, 0:07:25]: Thank you. [0:07:26, 0:07:36]: Well You go right, you got a question, sir. Yeah, so how many how Ms. Wheeler, so how many uh renewals do we have before we do have to actually solicit a bid? [0:07:37, 0:07:39]: Well we would [0:07:39, 0:07:56]: went through this uh whole process of uh changing brokers um about a year or two years ago um when risk management was uh switched over. And so when we go through the renewal is for the whole city of everything that properties, um [0:07:57, 0:08:07]: cyber security, everything that a city owns has to go on this. So what happens is that if there is no problem with the contract that we currently have, [0:08:07, 0:08:08]: With the vendor. [0:08:09, 0:08:19]: then procurement will send that over to us. I send it back that the vendor has met all the requirements uh that we needed, and then they basically [0:08:19, 0:08:22]: I send it back and we we go from there meet [0:08:22, 0:08:24]: With the vendor and um [0:08:25, 0:08:27]: go through the process of getting everything renewed. [0:08:27, 0:08:45]: So there is no three year one three nerd three year period, five year period, wherever it automatically goes back out to solicit to see what the market was there. No, not right now. Okay. Uh I thought we had something I guess uh I don't think we have that in there. I mean [0:08:47, 0:09:07]: Shakira's not here for me to ask of that question. Right, the witch Quinton was here. I thought that's what was real routine that we would send something out every maybe every three or four years to have it come back to us so that we understood truly what the market would bear. And uh certainly um I think that would be appropriate. And so this one you're you're saying it's on the [0:09:07, 0:09:17]: second year we just did it last year. So this would be twenty twenty two, twenty twenty four. [0:09:18, 0:09:21]: Із when we uh brought this before you. [0:09:21, 0:09:22]: Mm. Um [0:09:23, 0:09:25]: For the initial contract, I believe. [0:09:26, 0:09:29]: Is that some sir, do you have the daters? [0:09:30, 0:09:47]: Rikes, I I think we're parsing two separate things right now. The s the contract she's referencing. Please introduce yourself, by the way. Oh sorry, I'm forgive me. My name is Matt Simmons. Um senior director of Gallagher's Public Sector Practice. Uh I operate as part of your uh brokerage team. Um I think I can clarify um a few things on this. [0:09:47, 0:10:07]: So our job as the broker um is to solicit options for you every year. So there are um when we first became the broker for the city of College Park or sorry, I've got three council meetings today, City of Stockbridge. Um three years ago, we went out and took a look. Um some of the markets that are standard in this place um [0:10:07, 0:10:27]: Liberty Mutual, Trident, would not offer quotes on the City of Stockbridge for whatever reason, whether based on location, exposure size, loss experience. Gallagher, as your broker, is not paid by the city. We are, I think that that's where some of the uh confusion is coming, because typically from a procurement standpoint, for the brokerage services, we are not paid by the city, we are paid by the insurance company. [0:10:27, 0:10:47]: So there's not a next cost for the City of Stockbridge for our services. But what we do is we evaluate your options every single year. One of the things, one of the reasons we're looking at specific travels this year, your renewal is traditionally this time of year. Your fiscal year is January 1st, makes it very difficult to buy. [0:10:47, 0:10:55]: budget. What we're doing this year is, and we've negotiated this with travelers, is doing what is called a cancel rewrite. [0:10:56, 0:11:16]: What's in front of you is an annualized term. It's actually only going to go until December 31st, when we are going to reset your renewal date to align with your fiscal year so that moving forward, we can actually budget for we can put in the budget what we expect the renewal to look like. And moving forward, your renewal will come every year, January. [0:11:16, 0:11:18]: January one, which aligns with your fiscal year. [0:11:19, 0:11:34]: So that's one of the reasons why the focus has been on your current partner, because your current partner has the greatest likelihood of making an accommodation like that for the city of Stockbird so that we can better align and better budget and better manage your insurance program moving forward. [0:11:35, 0:11:55]: Well certainly I do understand that you're the broker and that you will be referring uh the best option and that you were opinionated. But my question basically was for your position, that doesn't go back out to anybody else. Surely there are other uh obviously you would probably do a fine job, but there are others that offer you a service, correct? Yes, sir. [0:11:55, 0:12:15]: Okay, so certainly uh a one to three would probably be appropriate for even this, so that uh we would evaluate what's going on with even this level, and I understand uh you know, but certainly others should be given an opportunity to be the broker for the city at some point. So um we need to look [0:12:14, 0:12:20]: At making that happen. This is the third year or second year. Do you have the dates? Do you have the dates, sir? [0:12:22, 0:12:42]: I mean when we first became the broker for the city of uh Stockbridge would have been in twenty um let me do the number of renewals that I've done. Um twenty four, twenty-five, twenty three, twenty four. It would have been um in uh I believe either the end of twenty two or the beginning of twenty three,'cause I believe that this is the third renewal that we have done [0:12:42, 0:12:44]: Uh for the city of Stockbridge. [0:12:44, 0:13:04]: Right. And typically what we had wanted was to see something every, you know, three years or so that would come back to the council. Uh that's kind of the language I think we had adopted in some procurement changes that we have made uh previously. So I think that's something that we should probably look into. Just everything that we [0:13:04, 0:13:24]: Do at the city at some point someone has an option at it and we could go back to kind of look at it. So that's kind of where we are now, but certainly we have business to conduct today uh in terms of where we are. And again, the the the expiration date is on July 19th, so certain June 19th, so that's only three days. [0:13:24, 0:13:31]: from here, so something has to be done. Also, I would like to ask you, sir, while you're at the podium, now it has been [0:13:32, 0:13:46]: said that the hundred thousand dollar in increase in the policies were related to new vehicles. Do you have a breakdown on what the increase is and how that should be explained uh from your side? [0:13:47, 0:14:07]: So you're looking at roughly about uh$79,000 of your increase is uh is attributed to your auto liability, um, which was going from 142 vehicles to 178 vehicles. Um so that's about$79,000 of the renewal is attributed there. Um the other primary [0:14:07, 0:14:27]: Primary driver on it is uh property. Um your property values were increased by five million dollars to keep up with uh the rate of inflation. Um and so we're seeing um and but also the property market continues to be very difficult as we see. I mean the month of months of May. [0:14:27, 0:14:41]: in June alone from a rain standpoint, we're seeing increases in storm activity, things like that. So we'll continue to see rates increase in property. But the rest of your uh renewal is primarily attributed when we look at that to the um [0:14:42, 0:14:49]: to the uh uh property mar uh property area and then there are a couple of other items um [0:14:49, 0:15:09]: And when you say property, you mean risk or you mean the the market value going? Pro no no the property in the cost for property insurance. And the and the increase in risk for property. The increase in the risk for the property. The risk the the risk is continuing to increase as we see, you know, we see what just in the fall we see what Hurricane Helene did to Georgia. Um that was a uh [0:15:09, 0:15:21]: um thousand year event um that came through. We are seeing increases in those type of storms. So we are seeing property rates continue to increase. Um which is where you see a uh a significant driver um [0:15:22, 0:15:36]: on your property premium. You'll see you'll note that it went from uh$122,000 to$150,000. Um and part of that is attributed to uh increase in values, um, but then just increase in exposure. [0:15:37, 0:15:46]: But not was that necessarily something that's just market wise or was that why it's it's it's a factor that [0:15:47, 0:15:47]: You know. [0:15:48, 0:15:50]: Wildfires in California. [0:15:50, 0:16:10]: That travel insurance impacts you. Coastal exposures impacts you because it impacts the overall underwriting of the uh of risks. Right. That's what I wanted to know. Was it anything specific related to anything the city had done? But this is just a market trend, is what correct. And when you look at the auto, auto rates just keep going up. You've looked at your own personal auto. [0:16:10, 0:16:23]: Right, certainly I've looked at the right. One of the things that we're hoping on is that the uh toll reform bill has a has a big impact on this stuff, but we continue to see s higher and higher verdicts, um, especially against uh local governments. [0:16:24, 0:16:25]: Thank you. [0:16:26, 0:16:27]: Ms. Gand, do you have a question? [0:16:28, 0:16:31]: I think um Councilman Alexander kinda [0:16:33, 0:16:44]: spoke on it. I see here that there's a difference in net rate changes that are drastically uh not really that large. Um I see the auto went up eighteen percent. [0:16:44, 0:16:50]: But and then you look at the physical damage, it actually went down twenty nine point six. [0:16:51, 0:17:08]: Um so are you saying that's due to the increase of auto you said that was due to the increase of automobiles that we have receiv we're getting. So your liability went up, um went up. Um it's not a it's not a perfect science, a perfect math. We we show out these analysts trying to help. [0:17:08, 0:17:09]: Show the story. [0:17:10, 0:17:15]: Um but when you when you note that your um your auto physical damage premium [0:17:15, 0:17:35]: Came down, the number of vehicles went up, but the premium came down. That's where we get with from a net standpoint. Um, you know, premium increase, less exposure increase. Um, so when exposures go down, and we try to look at that also, because for example, when you buy, um, if you buy 30 vehicles, you have to pay insurance for those 30 vehicles. And one of the things we want to show the story on is [0:17:35, 0:17:55]: It's not that the rates are going through the roof, it's that we have more exposures. Similarly, if we added five million dollars in payroll, your workers' comp numbers would increase dramatically. Okay. So that's what we're showing there. And to try and show kind of on a net basis what are some of the trends that we're looking at. Um, you know, there's some things in here. Um you know there has been claim activity. Um but they're not they're not due to [0:17:55, 0:17:55]: Thank you. [0:17:56, 0:18:04]: a car accident or anything, automobile accidents or anything of that nature. Correct. Well so your rates do shift based on your losses? [0:18:04, 0:18:24]: Um but we try to kind of show, hey, can we say is this um when we look at that net change, is the is, you know, we look for kind of reasonable realms of it for prime example is um your general liability, 11%. That's kind of an average market rate that that we're looking at, 18% on auto. It's kind of an average. [0:18:24, 0:18:36]: average market rate. If we saw a thirty five percent net rate change, we'd probably be talking about that there's some law it's some loss driven because that the rate is built out based on market factors and experience rating as well. [0:18:36, 0:18:56]: And what about employment practice liability? It went up twenty um twenty point nine percent. There have been some um uh there's been some claim activity there. Um so that's that's part of that's a part of that. Um that's not necessarily something for me um prepared to get into specifics on right now, but there has been claim activity. Okay. [0:18:56, 0:19:10]: So the cost of employment activities due to any claim activity. Exactly. And so the umbrella at forty six so we're we're up forty six point two percent. So I need to know, you know, I I understand [0:19:10, 0:19:30]: Just like a cost of living increase or anything else, you know, our cost of living, what is that 3.5% or something that we normally do, 3.3, 3.5. This is like double that in one almost 50% increase. And I need to know specifics on what's driving that so we can make arrangements to keep that down. [0:19:30, 0:19:37]: Um and you may not want to touch on that right now. We probably shouldn't, but um [0:19:37, 0:19:52]: I definitely wanna touch on it in executive session if that's part of something that we have to deal with. Um, especially if it is a twenty uh which cause a double, almost double under the entire umbrella at forty six point two percent. [0:19:53, 0:20:03]: Well as I mentioned s some of it is experience rated, some of it is market factors and and there's a there's a blend of those, but those things are certainly at a different time we can we can um [0:20:04, 0:20:13]: Oh I'm sorry. Um the there's the market factor and the experience factor and those things that we can talk about at at at a time when we're paired with that information. Okay. Thank you. Yes, ma'am. [0:20:15, 0:20:17]: Any other questions? Go ahead, please. [0:20:17, 0:20:24]: Um, Mr. Malazi, does this go through at least for our treasurer to review? [0:20:25, 0:20:25]: Yeah. [0:20:26, 0:20:28]: Mr. Malati. He's coming. [0:20:34, 0:20:39]: My understanding is you have taken a look at this. What is your recommendation? [0:20:40, 0:21:00]: I think that's the reason why she has said depending on the outcome of the assessment that is being done. So until then there's no figure that you are going to approve. The approval that you are going to make is just because of the three days that are there because [0:21:00, 0:21:20]: Um they have not accepted an extension. We did extend first one so that we could do the um assessment. Um then that one did not come up with what we wanted. The same questions that she has brought it up. Uh actually it's not 100. [0:21:20, 0:21:30]: over two hundred thousand increase. So pending on that then we will put the amount, if that amount can come down. [0:21:31, 0:21:37]: after giving out the reason why that extensive increase. [0:21:37, 0:21:42]: So should we expect that the amount would be greater than what [0:21:42, 0:21:48]: Is being proposed here today? It will be or will it be less? That's where we went to. [0:21:49, 0:22:09]: We want to hear. Otherwise you would have considered this the past council meeting that we had. So we asked for one month extension. Um it would have been due or expiring on the eighteenth of May, but we had to review why there's the [0:22:08, 0:22:25]: that hike. Why they that increase? And that process has not finished. So we ask for another extension, but they say they can't extend. Therefore we are we have three days. [0:22:26, 0:22:28]: But instead of asking you to approve it. [0:22:28, 0:22:31]: We are asking you to consider it [0:22:31, 0:22:34]: Depending on the outcome of the [0:22:35, 0:22:36]: I said Smith. [0:22:38, 0:22:46]: The forty two percent is just out of but uh they will help us to be where we are supposed to be. [0:22:49, 0:22:51]: That's how I can answer it. [0:22:53, 0:22:54]: Any other questions? [0:22:57, 0:23:01]: We met with the city manager, H. I was there. We met with them. [0:23:05, 0:23:18]: Okay. So you you're looking for an an um approval to extend it out a little further until you f have the final analysis, I guess you can say. So we do not stay without the coverage. Any coverage. [0:23:19, 0:23:25]: The coverage we need is it would have been there if there was an extension. So there's no extension. [0:23:26, 0:23:34]: then if the the don't extend come nineteenth will be out of coverage, which is not what we want. So we are compelled [0:23:35, 0:23:36]: To have it. [0:23:37, 0:23:40]: But without the amount there, because that amount [0:23:41, 0:23:43]: Unless otherwise we've changed. [0:23:43, 0:23:45]: Mm-hmm. [0:23:46, 0:23:52]: So otherwise council, I guess we need the verbiage to to ask for that and get your approval if that's the case. Will of the council. [0:23:54, 0:24:08]: How long do you anticipate after say we are able to give this approval today to make sure we have coverage beyond the 19th? How long before something will come back to this council that's more firm and concrete for long-term solutions? [0:24:09, 0:24:15]: It will be based on the outcome of the reconciliation that will be there. So w [0:24:18, 0:24:22]: Give you an example, our next council meeting after nice the twenty fifth of of this month. Would that work? [0:24:24, 0:24:27]: It's a possibility it will work by the twenty fifth. [0:24:30, 0:24:38]: We are finalizing the numbers as we speak. So once we uh finalize those numbers, we send it back to the broker. [0:24:38, 0:24:40]: For them to uh give to travelers. [0:24:41, 0:24:43]: So they can look at to make sure that [0:24:44, 0:24:45]: We're we we're [0:24:45, 0:24:47]: You know, comparing apples to apples. [0:24:48, 0:24:50]: Once that's back, then we will come back to the council. [0:24:50, 0:24:52]: Hopefully by the twenty fifth. [0:24:52, 0:24:57]: And I think we should be able to to provide that information back to council for your review. [0:25:00, 0:25:10]: Any other questions? Or whenever the next council is a good question. Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. Uh Mr. Mayor I just wanted I just wanna add uh uh Councilman Gann, um one thing I wanna make sure'cause obviously you're focused on the net rates and everything. [0:25:11, 0:25:17]: I did want to point out that when we look at the overall program from a net perspective to your point, we're looking at an eight and a half percent. [0:25:18, 0:25:19]: That is actually very positive. [0:25:20, 0:25:26]: So that again, it's kind of a yeah, I know that that's something that that you have great concern about and I was just no looking at it, I wanna make sure I made that mention to you. [0:25:26, 0:25:34]: That the net of an eight and a half percent is actually very good in the current market from an overall perspective. I just want to make sure that um I pointed that out. [0:25:34, 0:25:35]: Yep. [0:25:36, 0:25:39]: Thank you for pointing that. I appreciate it. [0:25:39, 0:25:59]: All right. So we have a a motion to go forward. Mayor, I make a motion that we give them this uh grace extension to explore um the policy coverage changes so that there is no lapse in coverage and pending a [0:25:59, 0:26:03]: uh follow up with counsel by the next meeting the twenty fifth. [0:26:04, 0:26:24]: To a second emotion. Mayor, I like the second emotion, but I want to emphasize what I said previously that the staff would go out and endeavor to look to see whether or not there are other options in terms of every program that we do in terms of the broker as well. So certainly I will let that would be appropriate in this situation as a second. Is that [0:26:24, 0:26:33]: Okay, Mr. Berry? Yeah. Yes. Is there an and also is there an NTE on this? I know we have eight thirty-one listed. [0:26:35, 0:26:38]: Uh not to exceed is there an amount not to exceed [0:26:41, 0:26:41]: Mm-hmm. [0:26:41, 0:26:51]: I if I may, this is the renewal provided by travelers and the other carriers that make up your program, whether it's the uh you have fiduciary pollution, um, cyber. Um [0:26:53, 0:26:55]: What is being undertaken is that [0:26:55, 0:26:59]: There is a question about how many vehicles are being properly rated. [0:27:00, 0:27:05]: There will be an adjustment based on the number of vehicles by the carrier because they have to [0:27:05, 0:27:07]: Прокур при то обтань преміум [0:27:07, 0:27:09]: appropriately for the exposure. [0:27:10, 0:27:17]: And so if there's 178 vehicles, this is your number. If there's a hundred and fifty vehicles, that number is going to come down. [0:27:17, 0:27:37]: If there's 180 vehicles, there's two additional vehicles that have to be insured that have to identify the insurance for it. Um so that is a variable number, but they have agreed that if there are fewer vehicles, they will provide a premium credit. Premium credit because there could be there could be vehicles on there that [0:27:37, 0:27:57]: should have been taken off, but somebody never communicated to the right department. And I know that one of the one of the things that we've been moving towards is that now that we have additional staff to focus on risk, we're able to start getting a lot of that stuff done, which can also address some of the issues around loss-driven experience and put a lot of programs and procedures in place. One of these, and while this is a [0:27:57, 0:28:09]: a difficult and painstaking process, it's a valuable process because we're starting to identify are we properly cataloging our exposures and reporting them and tracking them, make sure that other departments are communicating. But [0:28:09, 0:28:16]: It is potentially variable. Again, if there's two hundred vehicles that just weren't that are on the schedule, that will [0:28:17, 0:28:23]: being um those will have to be rated for to be insured for. Now if it turns out that there were vehicles that [0:28:24, 0:28:35]: haven't been in the past, I think you had this question, you were not without insurance on those. You're on what's called a composite rated schedule. So vehicles that are added and and subtracted during the policy term are automatically covered. [0:28:36, 0:28:49]: Um, but so if if it if you bought vehicles during the policy term, if you weren't without them, they're automatically covered by the way the insurance, we've structured the insurance. But if our reported vehicles are different, that number will change. Okay. [0:28:50, 0:29:05]: Uh Mr. Mayor, I um I'll amend that to say with the best rate possible language. All right. That it would present us the best rate. Okay. Based on the circumstances of vehicles that are either commissioned or decommissioned. [0:29:06, 0:29:07]: Moving forward. [0:29:08, 0:29:08]: All right. [0:29:09, 0:29:10]: With the language that I had, it's a second. [0:29:13, 0:29:18]: Okay. Did we get that I don't know, Miss Ms. Holiday, do you h have all that? [0:29:26, 0:29:30]: Twenty next count they said next council meeting the twenty. [0:29:36, 0:29:55]: Um right now pending a pending approval by the January twenty fifth meeting, you've asked for that to be with the best rate possible. Um and Council now added to look for options for other brokers. Is that part of the motion as well? Yes. Okay, so that's what I have now. [0:29:55, 0:29:56]: Okay. And that it's a good thing. [0:30:01, 0:30:02]: Yes. So [0:30:05, 0:30:21]: You all question just one comment. Let me just say this. I'm looking at the difference in what we're paying now versus what they're explaining or I um it's not that big of a difference. No. I mean, it really isn't. It's like [0:30:21, 0:30:28]: Um, for a grand total premium of six hundred and seventy-five thousand four hundred and ten dollars. That's our existing program. [0:30:29, 0:30:31]: In the proposed program [0:30:31, 0:30:45]: for twenty twenty five, twenty twenty six is a total of eight hundred and thirty one thousand eight hundred and sixty one dollars. So with the increase of the auto vehicles and some of the other explanations, I get it. Plus, I mean we all have these [0:30:45, 0:30:59]: increases everything is increasing. So I don't want anyone to think that I'm saying, oh wait a minute, they are robbing us blind. That's not the case. I just have some questions about some of the calculations in regards to things that our staff [0:30:59, 0:31:08]: And mayor and council needs to start paying attention to on what premium, what causes those increases besides the normal. [0:31:08, 0:31:12]: you know, I I say cost of living, but the normal market val market value. [0:31:12, 0:31:32]: Um, if there's something that raises a red flag that actually spikes, then I want to bring that to the attention of Mayor and Council. But the difference in regards to where we were these past years compared to now, I I don't see a great difference. I don't own I don't think it's outrageous. Just so in my opinion. [0:31:33, 0:31:40]: Okay, so we got a motion to a couple of different additions to that motion. Miss uh Holiday has that uh identified. Miss Barber, you have something else? [0:31:41, 0:31:43]: Yeah. Mr. Malazi stood up. [0:31:44, 0:31:47]: Yeah, something else you wanted to add. [0:31:47, 0:32:00]: I don't see there will be any difference by the next meeting with where we have come from and where we are now, expecting that on the twenty fifth it will be resolved unless he guarantees that it will be resolved. [0:32:01, 0:32:07]: Yeah, I I can't guarantee anything until we receive uh uh a vehicle count. [0:32:07, 0:32:26]: Okay, so if you don't think that in your professional opinion, what what type deadline do you recommend? So w if we wanna accept that deadline we can make some adjustments in the motion. My best was if they were to extend for another month because uh Mayor, we were together in the meeting, you know what we went through. It would be the same. [0:32:26, 0:32:32]: All right. So another month brings it back into July, which is July five July fourteenth, I believe it is. [0:32:34, 0:32:40]: But see the qu the the question really is the council would wanna council wanna wait that long and make the adjustments in the the motion for that. [0:32:41, 0:32:44]: Uh let's see here. Let's about double check uh what that date would be. [0:32:45, 0:32:48]: It is july fourteenth. Okay. So it would be we're talking about [0:32:49, 0:33:09]: You're talking about another next month, that's July fourteenth. Now that's up to the council if they want to m actually come, I'll tell you come back to Mr. Berry because you initially uh mentioned this. Yeah, I I feel the if the fourteenth is a more reasonable day date to address the vehicle inventory concerns because I think that's everything hinges on whether or not vehicles either stay on [0:33:09, 0:33:29]: Or come off. I think that's the biggest determining factor in this rate, right? Whether or not the new vehicles come on and then there are some older vehicles that will be coming off that are decommissioned. So that I guess the be better question is how much time will it take to truly do a vehicle inventory for the city vehicles? Is it 30 days? [0:33:29, 0:33:30]: Is it fifteen days? Is it a little bit of a little bit of a little [0:33:31, 0:33:51]: We are currently doing it right now. And the problem is that even with the older vehicles, if they are still on our property, we have to cover them. They have not been surplused. So until they're surplused and taken off the city roll, then we have to continue to cover them. So if [0:33:50, 0:34:03]: If they have sixty two brand new vehicles and thirty of them are old and they have not surplused them, we are gonna have to cover them no matter what. So, you know, that could be the difference. It could be that um [0:34:04, 0:34:10]: It could be a number of factors that I'm getting from the departments on exactly what they have on their property. [0:34:11, 0:34:12]: So [0:34:13, 0:34:20]: You know, we this is the number that we received the for the renewal for from the insurance company. [0:34:20, 0:34:22]: The broker has gone out. [0:34:22, 0:34:25]: He has gone out to the various companies. [0:34:25, 0:34:27]: to bring back us a renewal. [0:34:28, 0:34:36]: That's what the broker does. So it doesn't matter who the broker is, it's the insurance company that drives what we pay in premiums. [0:34:37, 0:34:46]: So if you don't foresee needing that extra time, we can leave the m the motion as it is. If you think So we need to the council ask the council to approve. [0:34:46, 0:34:50]: The liability insurance so the city will not be without coverage. [0:34:50, 0:34:52]: If there is a change, a credit [0:34:53, 0:34:54]: Will be issued. [0:34:54, 0:34:55]: Based on the [0:34:55, 0:34:56]: Vehicle [0:34:56, 0:34:58]: Listing that we're going to provide them. [0:34:59, 0:35:01]: And if not, then this number stays the same. [0:35:01, 0:35:06]: Yeah, but we cannot get an extension of thirty days. [0:35:06, 0:35:20]: I'm saying what Mr. Malazi just said thirty more. And we that we've already tried that with the insurance company. They will not an extension, but I'm saying to repass this and ask for what? We're asking for thirty more days to [0:35:21, 0:35:24]: To do the inventory on a pending approval? Uh-huh. [0:35:24, 0:35:39]: Good. So I guess you you brought this up. You you gave it you said about thirty days or w next meeting would be the fourteenth of July. You said that, sir, or y you recommended a long a time. So you your your thought process and how this can go. I don't want us to come on the twenty fifth [0:35:40, 0:35:44]: And we're still where we are today because [0:35:44, 0:36:04]: Mayor you know when we discussed initially it was we acquire new between thirty and forty vehicles. We didn't buy those vehicles. Right. Then at a later time it was it's not the old vehicles. They are the new vehicles. Ah the old vehicles, it's not the new vehicles. [0:36:04, 0:36:05]: This is the old vehicles. [0:36:05, 0:36:08]: Then we said, okay, if they odd vehicles [0:36:09, 0:36:10]: How did you [0:36:11, 0:36:12]: Cover them last year. [0:36:13, 0:36:14]: For the past two years. [0:36:15, 0:36:18]: Where were they those vehicles that now they are extra? [0:36:19, 0:36:24]: So those are areas where we get into the new extra thirty forty is no longer there. [0:36:25, 0:36:27]: But we have the new [0:36:27, 0:36:28]: Additional [0:36:29, 0:36:30]: For the vehicles. [0:36:31, 0:36:37]: that are old. So how did we cover last year or the past two years? [0:36:38, 0:36:42]: That's reconciliation. So if the we are reconciling something that was already covered. [0:36:44, 0:36:48]: So I just don't want to come the twenty fifth. [0:36:48, 0:36:53]: We may approve the same number because that reconciliation may not be done. [0:36:55, 0:37:07]: All right. So we accepted a later time frame might uh uh the next meeting after the twenty fifth is scheduled to be the fourteenth. It so otherwise is that acceptable or not. But they are saying if uh it passes the [0:37:08, 0:37:19]: twenty fifth, then it will not be covered. Now my question will be then how are we being covered to twenty fifth? How will be covered to twenty fifth? [0:37:19, 0:37:25]: Go ahead you go go ahead, sir. And it's I don't make it my business to get in the middle of city business, if I may. [0:37:26, 0:37:39]: The insurance renewal is ready to be approved. What I think is where everybody's trying to get towards, if I can demystify this, is to come back and provide a report on what is the actual number of vehicles and what, if any, credit or [0:37:39, 0:37:41]: additional premium is owed [0:37:41, 0:38:01]: based on the number of vehicles. Because what should happen today, for forgive me, my my my recommendation would be to approve the renewal so that the city can move forward so we can start moving towards our strategy of resetting your insurance date come this January so it aligns with your budget so that you don't have to run into [0:38:01, 0:38:21]: Did we budget for the increase or not? Because we've already planned for that. But then my recommendation would be to come back and say we've done an audit, we've identified that we have 185 vehicles, or we have 130 vehicles, or what is. Here's the results from the uh insurance carrier of a credit and/or additional premium owed. But um I can tell you that from a [0:38:21, 0:38:23]: Insurance renewal standpoint. [0:38:24, 0:38:27]: The insurance for the city of Stockbridge needs to be renewed. [0:38:27, 0:38:32]: B so that we do not lapse coverage at twelve oh one AM on Thursday. [0:38:32, 0:38:37]: Um because it's not just the travelers piece, it includes your cyber insurance, it includes your fiduciary. [0:38:37, 0:38:43]: Liability insurance could include your um um your pollution uh storage tank insurance. Yeah. Um [0:38:44, 0:38:51]: But I think that approve the renewal and then come back with a report on what are the number of vehicles, was there a credit or additional premium mode? [0:38:51, 0:39:11]: Mm-hmm. Okay. Thank you for that. Yes, sir. Yeah, I just cut to the chase. How much time do you need? You need thirty days for the pending approval? You need thirty days for that? What for me? I need I need approval to renew your insurance. But regarding a review of the of the vehicles, that's not something that I do. It's not something I can do. So you need a actual renewal. [0:39:11, 0:39:31]: Renew your insurance. I need to renew your insurance so that so that you do not go without coverage. The request that was made by the staff was to have a pending approval, so that's not something that you that you offer? No, no, no, it's not something that's I I think it was just a mixing of of of words. [0:39:31, 0:39:33]: Mm-hmm. [0:39:33, 0:39:53]: Approve this number pending that it could change, I think is is what we're looking at. Approve the renewal with the understanding that it could change because we did an extension. We brought this, we brought this to the city at the beginning of May. There was a we're an extension was requested to identify did we have the right number of vehicles? And we are now at the end of that extension. Um we had each carrier uh provide that. [0:39:53, 0:40:13]: That extension. And so we want to go ahead and get you moving forward because we know that we can make the adjustments once we identify the vehicles. In terms of a vehicle audit, that's not on our side, it's on the city's side. Well basically what you need is what was told to us is there's no pending. You need an actual approval. I need approved in order to move. [0:40:13, 0:40:33]: Forward, you will bring back a revised or a revision of what uh if there is one. If there is a revision, we will bring that to us to notify us of what that might be. But if we don't have an approval today, our insurance is gonna lapse on the nineteenth. Yes, sir. So the correct NTE is actually on this paper, which is the eight hundred thirty. [0:40:33, 0:40:38]: [2439.1, 2459.1]: Unless there are more vehicles than 178. And then there will be additional premium. But if there are less vehicles than there's less vehicle that can come down. Um correct. Um and again, this will not all be born in this fiscal year because strategically we are restructuring it so that you no longer are trying to budget for a May renewal. [0:40:59, 0:41:02]: in October, which is near impossible. [0:41:02, 0:41:18]: And if we were to remove certain vehicles from the fleet as well at any time, there can be an a an adjustment at any time. Not not at a we're doing this based on the confusion right now, but because be also because you in a normal policy term. [0:41:19, 0:41:21]: You can add vehicles, they're not gonna charge you additional premium. [0:41:22, 0:41:23]: It's called non auditable. [0:41:24, 0:41:33]: So they're not going to charge additional premium for if you buy five vehicles during the policy term, you're not getting charged for that. So they're also not going to give money back for it because they're just going to say, here's what we said. [0:41:34, 0:41:48]: Here's what we've got. And as you add them in, and we check, we check it at the end of the year. So we can make sure that we for the next renewal, we're ch we're charging for those. But the way we've structured the insurance, they don't give money back. You know, if you sell a bunch of vehicles in [0:41:48, 0:41:49]: December. [0:41:50, 0:41:54]: There's not a credit on that. We're doing a credit right now because there is. [0:41:55, 0:42:00]: um uh ambiguity and confusion over the actual count. Um [0:42:00, 0:42:04]: For similarly, if there is under vehicles, they're not charging you for this current policy term. [0:42:05, 0:42:12]: for the thirty vehicles that weren't on there. They're not gonna come and get money for that because they're not auditing it for that. Um [0:42:13, 0:42:14]: But what? [0:42:15, 0:42:24]: As your broker, I need is approval to renew your insurance so that it can move forward. And we will then move forward trying to figure out what is the right number of vehicles. [0:42:25, 0:42:28]: So sir. Ms. Holliday. [0:42:30, 0:42:32]: eight hundred thirty one thousand eight sixty one [0:42:38, 0:42:42]: Th this is this is the these are annualized numbers. [0:42:43, 0:42:49]: That is over twelve months. That is what your annual renewal is because it was also a question of [0:42:49, 0:42:53]: The assumption was the city would want to do this so that you can align it with your fiscal. [0:42:53, 0:43:00]: But the way that travelers does as opposed to doing a short-term policy, they do what's called a cancel rewrite. [0:43:00, 0:43:09]: So that and it's in part because then we're gonna s be staying with travelers because they are making the accommodation for us. So they will do a cancel rewrite. It's a it's it sounds [0:43:10, 0:43:15]: Weirder than it is. But effectively we are going to restart the un the renewal process. [0:43:16, 0:43:17]: In [0:43:17, 0:43:21]: August that we began this past uh November. We're gonna restart it. [0:43:22, 0:43:29]: and put together a new renewal to put in front of you this uh for this coming budget cycle. Ho and hopefully be able to present that in November. [0:43:30, 0:43:50]: For a January renewal. January through December. And from now on, it will be January through December. We already have some of your carriers have agreed to do a short rate. So again, these are annualized numbers because we want to show you what the annualized number looks like, as opposed to just saying, hey, here's your short term. Because then it's harder to show apples to apples. What did the actual rate change do? [0:43:49, 0:43:50]: Yeah. [0:43:51, 0:44:00]: So to further clarify, the 831 number is what you may or may not credit or increase based on the inventory offer. [0:44:00, 0:44:00]: Correct. [0:44:02, 0:44:03]: Okay. [0:44:04, 0:44:24]: I mean it's really there's really uh understand mayor, there's really no other choice. I mean we got I mean we we wanna have insurance pass the nineteenth we gotta pass this uh uh and then certainly look at uh bringing those numbers back. As you said, it's a cancel rewrite. So basically on twelve thirty one it'll be canceled and rewritten basically under the same [0:44:24, 0:44:37]: terms to match up with what we had. This budget cycle is not going to occur eight hundred thirty one thousand. Right. It will occur seven months prorated at that rate, correct. And then we will restart it and then we will have everything straight moving forward. [0:44:38, 0:44:53]: So uh basically based on that, uh you ready to make the motion? Well yeah, I just wanna make sure that your your motion is clear. And I wanna make sure that you got everything okay. And we we're looking at still the th uh the twenty fifth or the fourteenth of July? [0:44:53, 0:45:03]: That is a question for the city. Can you still say the twenty fifth? I think we can do it. Yeah, because we're almost finished. Okay. Okay. All right. So be it. So I think we're good with the motion then. All right. All in favor of motion, please indicate. [0:45:04, 0:45:09]: Nam's decision. I mean, I'm sorry. Um I'll oppose? You're opposed. [0:45:11, 0:45:15]: You approve. Okay. Four. Four zero. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you all. Uh huh. [0:45:16, 0:45:18]: All right. On that note, uh [0:45:19, 0:45:25]: Council, we need to need to go to an executive session, personal legal, real estate. So move. Is there a second? [0:45:25, 0:45:27]: I say okay. Okay. I'll find present okay. [0:45:29, 0:45:35]: Okay. Shortly. Soon. [0:45:36, 0:45:37]: Alrighty. [0:45:49, 0:45:51]: I didn't think about the pin too. [0:46:24, 0:46:27]: Hi, Council, I need a motion to end our exact session, please. [0:46:27, 0:46:29]: Slow move. Is there a second? [0:46:30, 0:46:30]: Okay. [0:46:30, 0:46:33]: I'm Mr. Berry Secondette. Matt, I forgot to ask. Are we back live? [0:46:35, 0:46:36]: Rup. [0:46:38, 0:46:41]: Okay, did that d that did the live feed catch that motion? [0:46:58, 0:47:00]: I should have asked you earlier before I said that. [0:47:03, 0:47:12]: We're up now. Okay. Uh once again, we'll do this again. Council need a motion to end exactly session, please. So move. Okay. All right. All in favor, please indicate. [0:47:13, 0:47:15]: I need a motion now to reconvene our special call meeting. [0:47:16, 0:47:17]: So move. Okay. [0:47:18, 0:47:26]: Second. Oh, Mr. Berry, second that on favor, please indicate. And from our executive session, we have a couple of different motions to make at this time frame. [0:47:33, 0:47:35]: Well hold a second, hold on, say it again. [0:47:36, 0:47:37]: Thank you. [0:47:38, 0:47:45]: Megan McCulloch with the city attorney's office. The first motion was to re um vote on a potential candidate for city manager. [0:47:46, 0:47:55]: Just it'd be the Soul finalist. So soul finalist is what it's called. Soul finalists. Ah, the soul finalist for city manager, thank you. Okay. [0:47:56, 0:47:57]: Iman Emmanuel? [0:47:58, 0:48:10]: I want to uh some I want to uh make the announcement or the sole finalist for the s Stockbridge City Council meeting is Emmanuel [0:48:10, 0:48:12]: Oderin. [0:48:13, 0:48:20]: Okay. He again the sole finalist for city manager for the city of Stockbridge is Emmanuel Amanadaris. [0:48:20, 0:48:22]: I second. Okay, all fair please indicate. [0:48:24, 0:48:25]: Nam's decision. [0:48:26, 0:48:31]: Okay, I'm sorry, three zero one. All right. And the next motion please. [0:48:31, 0:48:39]: And the second motion was to uh vote to terminate uh the contract for Harold Young. Okay. For breach of contract. [0:48:40, 0:48:48]: So moved. Breach of contract you said. Yes. Okay. So moved? Is there s you so moved that sir? Yes. Is there a second? Second. Okay, all in favor, please indicate. [0:48:50, 0:49:02]: Oh okay. So now it's decision. Thank you very much. Uh now any motion to end our our special call meeting. So move. Is there a second? Second. Mr. Berry's second, all fair please indicate. Good night and God bless you.

--- title: Community Zoning Information Meeting date: 2025-06-11 source: 2025-06-11_Community_Zoning_Information_Meeting.wav --- [0:03:28, 0:03:35]: Good evening everyone. This is the CZIM meeting, Community Zoning and Information Meeting. [0:03:35, 0:03:36]: Oh, this is not [0:03:38, 0:03:39]: Just a moment, please. [0:04:37, 0:04:45]: All right. Um this is the community zoning and information meeting, CZIM, for June 11th. [0:04:45, 0:04:47]: twenty twenty five. [0:04:47, 0:05:01]: And purpose of the meeting is to discuss uh upcoming zoning cases that we have. We'll be later discussed by the planning commission and the city council meeting for City of Stockbridge. And tonight um [0:05:01, 0:05:11]: uh the purpose actually is to give the citizens a chance to learn about upcoming zoning cases. Tonight we have only one zoning case to discuss. Uh [0:05:17, 0:05:28]: And first though, I'm gonna give a brief overview of the zoning process for those of you who might not be familiar with zoning with the zoning process at City of Startbridge. [0:05:29, 0:05:30]: So [0:05:30, 0:05:31]: How does all of this start? [0:05:32, 0:05:44]: Initial actions by the property owner developer. So a developer or property owner might purchase a property and enter into a contract with the owner to purchase the property pending zoning approval by City Stockbridge. [0:05:45, 0:05:46]: Developer prepares the site plan. [0:05:47, 0:05:49]: For proposed development uh project. [0:05:49, 0:05:52]: Contacts the planning and zoning staff to request [0:05:53, 0:05:54]: A pre application meeting. [0:05:54, 0:05:57]: purpose of that meaning is to discuss and evaluate [0:05:58, 0:06:01]: In in the very beginning it's an informal discussion, developers proposal. [0:06:02, 0:06:04]: And ah then ah then the [0:06:04, 0:06:07]: Developer submits applications uh to the city. [0:06:08, 0:06:08]: Um [0:06:08, 0:06:19]: And those applications may include the request and the itself, a survey of the property, proposed site plan, various legal stu uh legal debo documents, letter of intent. [0:06:19, 0:06:21]: And a water sewer availability letter. [0:06:22, 0:06:23]: Um [0:06:23, 0:06:28]: And sometimes the applicant hires an agent like a law firm to handle the process. [0:06:29, 0:06:35]: the application process. We have several different types of zoning applications that we receive throughout the year. [0:06:35, 0:06:37]: An annexation application. [0:06:37, 0:06:42]: Uh is for those properties that are currently located outside of the Stockbridge city limits. [0:06:43, 0:06:48]: uh in unincorporated Henry County. If it's approved, it'll be brought into the city. [0:06:48, 0:06:51]: Comprehensive plan amendment changes the city's [0:06:51, 0:06:53]: comprehensive plan to um [0:06:54, 0:06:56]: Uh with a map change. [0:06:56, 0:06:58]: Uh future land use map. [0:06:58, 0:07:00]: um to allow the proposed type of use. [0:07:00, 0:07:06]: And allows the requested zoning and the proposed residential density if it's a residential project. [0:07:08, 0:07:11]: The rezoning application changes the base zoning of the property. [0:07:12, 0:07:13]: Um [0:07:13, 0:07:16]: That means the current uses if it's approved will no longer be allowed. [0:07:17, 0:07:20]: There might also be an overlay district. Um [0:07:20, 0:07:21]: that would not change. [0:07:21, 0:07:25]: It could possibly be a variance application. Those are for minor [0:07:25, 0:07:30]: deviations for s for example for setbacks. Um [0:07:30, 0:07:39]: And then we might get a special use permit application that's for special uses like churches, liquor stores, personal care homes or gas stations. [0:07:40, 0:07:43]: And then finally a zoning modification application. [0:07:43, 0:07:53]: uh as for when a developer wants to make a change to a previously approved rezoning that the council made uh some time ago. [0:07:56, 0:08:02]: Okay. Now community development department upon receiving the application, like I said, they conduct the [0:08:02, 0:08:04]: We conduct pre application meaning [0:08:04, 0:08:06]: Process the applications. [0:08:06, 0:08:09]: Uh then we put a ad in the newspaper, legal ads. [0:08:10, 0:08:13]: List the exoning cases on the agendas for upcoming public meetings. [0:08:14, 0:08:18]: А we prepare a letter for applicants to mail out to surrounding property owners. [0:08:19, 0:08:21]: who live within five hundred feet of the property. [0:08:21, 0:08:24]: Um we send uh for annexation uh [0:08:25, 0:08:25]: Cases [0:08:26, 0:08:29]: Copies the applications to Henry County officials for their review. [0:08:29, 0:08:32]: And we post zoning signs on the property. [0:08:33, 0:08:34]: Then they start the [0:08:35, 0:08:39]: Planning and zoning staff prepares a staff report to assess the merits of each zoning case. [0:08:40, 0:08:42]: compliance with the comprehensive plan. [0:08:42, 0:08:44]: And the unified development code. [0:08:45, 0:08:49]: and makes recommendations. We then prepare PowerPoint presentation. [0:08:49, 0:08:54]: that we'll use in um presenting cases at upcoming public meetings. [0:08:55, 0:09:00]: And these are the public meetings. Tonight we have the C Z IM meeting, informal meeting to [0:09:00, 0:09:06]: Um citizens may have a chance to talk informally with the developers to learn all about the cases. [0:09:06, 0:09:10]: Then the planning commission meeting uh with a we have a board [0:09:10, 0:09:13]: uh board members um sit up at the front [0:09:14, 0:09:33]: here in the council chamber and they hold a public hearing and they take votes which become recommendations to city council. Then finally the city council meeting uh form follows a similar f similar format as a planning commission meeting and their decisions become final and they become law. So that's the end of the process. [0:09:34, 0:09:36]: Um after uh [0:09:36, 0:09:40]: zoning cases are approved, the developer may then submit [0:09:40, 0:09:46]: to the permitting staff um land development l land disturbance permit application. [0:09:46, 0:09:47]: To [0:09:47, 0:09:49]: Give permission to clear the land. [0:09:49, 0:09:56]: put in streets and utility lines and then also a building permit application and staff reviews them. [0:09:56, 0:10:02]: All right, so tonight we have only one zoning case uh to discuss. Um [0:10:02, 0:10:07]: I'm gonna give a brief overview of the case, then we'll have a developer the applicant is here. [0:10:08, 0:10:14]: will make uh his own presentation and then citizens may ask any questions or have comments. [0:10:15, 0:10:23]: Okay, the case that we're gonna discuss tonight is zoning modification case number ZM twenty twenty five oh one. [0:10:24, 0:10:36]: This is for property located at the southwest corner of Highway 42 North and Tunis Road. It is parcel number 070-010-22001. [0:10:36, 0:10:56]: Proposed development is a single family residential subdivision with fifty-nine detached homes. Uh the property was previously approved some years ago for development which didn't did not get built, and now the current developer wants to make a change to the previously approved design at the [0:10:56, 0:11:02]: And that's what's called a modification and that's why he needed to submit zoning modification case. [0:11:03, 0:11:17]: uh application. Here is the aerial photo of the property. We have Highway 42 north, going north to south here. Tunis Road is the northern boundary of the property. Um it's a rather odd shaped parcel. [0:11:18, 0:11:21]: Uh then we have it here's another area of photo. [0:11:21, 0:11:22]: It shows [0:11:25, 0:11:28]: Excuse me, the creek and floodplain going right through the center. [0:11:31, 0:11:32]: Mm-hmm. [0:11:36, 0:11:40]: The property owner is Highway Henry Highway forty two L C [0:11:40, 0:11:42]: The applicant is shaker ready. [0:11:43, 0:11:46]: Um the property has twenty seven point seven two. [0:11:47, 0:11:48]: Approximate acres. [0:11:48, 0:11:50]: It's right now vacant. [0:11:50, 0:11:52]: Has the creek and floodplain areas? [0:11:52, 0:11:55]: Property zone SR which is suburban residential. [0:11:56, 0:11:58]: And PMU Parkway Mixed Use Overlay District. [0:11:59, 0:12:02]: The future land use designation is low density mixed use. [0:12:04, 0:12:07]: Um here is a map of the future land use of the property. [0:12:08, 0:12:08]: Um [0:12:09, 0:12:11]: It is a low density. [0:12:11, 0:12:12]: Mixed use. [0:12:14, 0:12:15]: Zoning map. [0:12:15, 0:12:18]: Uh the yellow area is suburban residential. [0:12:20, 0:12:26]: And as an overlay district, the lavender areas are in the overlay district includ including the subject property. [0:12:26, 0:12:28]: So as I mentioned this was um [0:12:29, 0:12:30]: A previous rezoning. [0:12:31, 0:12:35]: Oh, that was approved for Killern Properties and Sharrett Development Group. [0:12:35, 0:12:37]: And it had certain um [0:12:37, 0:12:39]: Zoning conditions as a part of that rezoning. [0:12:40, 0:12:42]: Uh but that development was not approved. [0:12:42, 0:12:53]: So the developer is um seeking some modifications to those zoning conditions um that were part of a development agreement between the developer and city of Stockbridge. [0:12:54, 0:12:56]: Um these are the [0:12:57, 0:13:00]: zoning conditions that were included in that development agreement. [0:13:01, 0:13:06]: Number one, a third of the single family homes shall be a minimum of twenty four hundred square feet rather than twenty five. [0:13:06, 0:13:09]: hundred square feet. Actually these are the [0:13:09, 0:13:11]: proposed changes that the [0:13:11, 0:13:13]: d the applicant would like to make. [0:13:14, 0:13:19]: Front number two, front of the home shall be mixture fifty percent brick or stone and hardy plank. [0:13:19, 0:13:24]: Or cementitious fiber siding with brick or stone water table on the two sides of the homes. [0:13:25, 0:13:29]: Uh three hardwood street trees shall only be required along Highway thirty. [0:13:29, 0:13:31]: Uh twenty three, forty two. [0:13:31, 0:13:37]: And number four, twelve landscape uh landscape strip between the curb and four foot sidewalk shall be a minimum. [0:13:37, 0:13:40]: twenty four inches along up all public streets. [0:13:40, 0:13:45]: And five, uh home plan approvals shall be issued by the community development director. [0:13:45, 0:13:47]: prior to issuance of a final plat. [0:13:50, 0:13:54]: Here's a proposed site plan. Uh we do have an enlargement of course now. [0:13:54, 0:13:59]: Interesting to note as be because of the creek going through the center of the property. [0:13:59, 0:14:01]: Proposed development would actually [0:14:01, 0:14:12]: It consists of two parts. Let's see you have enlargement, little bit of enlargement. Uh you see the creek goes through the center. So there's a northern and southern uh portion. [0:14:12, 0:14:25]: um of development ends in the a cul-de-sac. The applicant here can provide more details on this. So it is a proposed fifty-nine single family detached homes. Um let's see [0:14:27, 0:14:31]: The setbacks required fifty feet in the front, forty in the rear, ten on the sides. [0:14:32, 0:14:36]: There would be water quality ponds in in the development, an amenity lot. [0:14:37, 0:14:38]: And um [0:14:38, 0:14:44]: No other amentees shown at the present time. So the applicant is here now and would like to make a presentation. [0:15:01, 0:15:05]: Yeah, um I'll pull it on this side. [0:15:12, 0:15:13]: Yeah, that's that top one. [0:15:14, 0:15:15]: Okay. [0:15:18, 0:15:35]: Uh let me uh actually have to first uh this um then I stop this one. [0:15:52, 0:16:12]: All right, my name is Brian Marshburn. On behalf of Shaker Ready, uh just want to give a quick overview of what we're seeking to do. Uh as you can see, this is a aerial from about 2006 to 2008. The project had um previously been [0:16:12, 0:16:20]: Mostly developed. It had been cleared, graded. It has active water and sewer in the community. [0:16:20, 0:16:21]: Um [0:16:21, 0:16:41]: The trees have since grown back over the past twenty-some years. Uh on the north side of the property it's uh industrial use north and south of the subject property. Uh but this uh property was zoned industrial and it uh now is zoned R three. [0:16:41, 0:16:44]: Or uh S R through conversion. [0:16:47, 0:16:55]: Uh development agreement was executed uh with the city in two thousand four. [0:16:56, 0:17:08]: A development agreement was executed with the city in 2004. Properties were rezoned from M1 Light Industrial to R three to permit uh single family development on this parcel. [0:17:08, 0:17:12]: Uh original site development occurred oh six to oh eight. [0:17:13, 0:17:15]: Then we had the global financial crisis. [0:17:15, 0:17:17]: We all know what happened then. [0:17:17, 0:17:20]: Between two thousand seven and two thousand nine. [0:17:20, 0:17:31]: Uh the site foreclosed in 2008 and the applicant Henry Highway Henry forty two LLC purchased the property in August 2010 and has since held the property. [0:17:32, 0:17:49]: Uh current site plan is basically unchanged from the previous site plan. Uh we have reduced the number of lots down to fifty nine. Uh the prior site plan uh was not uh did not accommodate enough uh room to [0:17:50, 0:17:55]: fit a a typical uh conventional size home onto the property. Um [0:17:56, 0:18:13]: They're um the minimum lot size was reduced from twelve to twelve thousand square feet to ten thousand five hundred square feet. Uh there are only several lots in this community that meet that requirement. Uh most of these lots exceed twelve thousand square feet. [0:18:17, 0:18:37]: Uh our request is uh pretty simple. We're only modifying the existing development agreement that was put in place in 2004. And our requests are seven. Um uh we want to uh reduce by one hundred square feet the largest. [0:18:37, 0:18:42]: ranch style home in the community uh from twenty five hundred to twenty four hundred square feet. [0:18:43, 0:18:57]: Uh that's number one. Number two is we would like to build three side hardy plank, one side the fronts, uh up to fifty percent uh brick, stone, uh [0:18:59, 0:19:03]: uh fiber sodding um i.e. hardy plank. [0:19:04, 0:19:05]: uh along the front. [0:19:06, 0:19:26]: There would be a uh water table on both sides of the house. Uh that would be uh brick, stone, or stucco. Uh a water table around the bottom edges of the home. Uh we would uh like to remove the hardwood tree requirement uh along the streets and only install them along [0:19:26, 0:19:27]: Highway forty two twenty three. [0:19:30, 0:19:42]: Additionally, each home plan would be approved by uh the city. Um that was already uh in the previous development agreement. [0:19:48, 0:19:58]: The landscaping strip in the previous development agreement between the curb and the sidewalk is four feet. We're requesting that to be two feet. [0:19:59, 0:20:19]: Uh there is a um some ambiguity uh in uh number twenty of the existing development agreement, which uh doesn't really clarify that there should only be one pool and one amenities package uh through conversation with uh staff. Uh [0:20:19, 0:20:32]: We all agree that uh 59 lot communities should only have one pool, one amenities package. Therefore, it would be a lower cost to the homeowners uh through the association dues. Um [0:20:33, 0:20:37]: In addition, uh we would like to install a mailbox bank. Uh [0:20:38, 0:20:40]: I think that uh [0:20:40, 0:20:41]: The new standard [0:20:41, 0:20:45]: Uh back in two thousand four everyone had their own mailbox. [0:20:46, 0:20:51]: And the remainder of the development agreement standards from the prior development agreement will remain. [0:20:51, 0:20:53]: Uh but these are our only requests. [0:20:55, 0:21:15]: Uh the renderings. Uh this community will be developed very similar to Winding Creek subdivision. It's a fairly new subdivision along Campground Road. It sold very well. Uh home prices somewhere between$350 and$450. Um with a uh our community will actually probably have a a few more uh [0:21:15, 0:21:18]: Units that will have uh ranch style homes. [0:21:20, 0:21:30]: Uh it's uh just a quick view of uh what the the pool and the clubhouse looks like with the playground in the background and winding creek and the street view. [0:21:31, 0:21:33]: And I'm happy to entertain any questions. [0:21:42, 0:21:42]: How are you doing? [0:21:43, 0:21:44]: Okay. [0:21:45, 0:21:46]: Well thank you. [0:21:56, 0:21:59]: I noticed on the site plan. Could you show that again? [0:21:59, 0:22:19]: There's another cul-de-sac. I guess it's not part of your property, but what is there something back there? Yes, this is a uh was previously developed in 2004. Uh there are three commercial lots that go across the frontage of highway forty-two. Okay. Uh one to the south, one in the middle, which is quite large, and one to the north. [0:22:19, 0:22:26]: North, uh I believe they're zone C two. So they're undeveloped. They're undeveloped. There's a quite a substantial uh [0:22:28, 0:22:38]: Retention wall, the detention wall that goes around the edge of the property there. What is that that goes across? It's uh about a two million dollar wall. A wall. A wall that holds up the property. [0:22:39, 0:22:59]: A retaining wall. So it must be significant drop. Very significant. So really yeah, this is level. This whole area is level. And let me go back to the very So the rear part is unbuildable. See how this this kind of part is unbuildable. So that's the the wetlands and the and the creek, Wolf Creek. [0:22:59, 0:23:11]: So there's significant setbacks off of it and they go all the way around the property on the backside here. But this is basically how it will look again. So there's really no change in the the footprint of what was previously approved. [0:23:12, 0:23:25]: And the cul de sac why why was that put in? That was just penciled in for uh future development of office buildings there. So imagine a cluster of uh attached office condo buildings there. [0:23:25, 0:23:28]: Uh, as far as the conditions, could you um [0:23:29, 0:23:30]: Go back to them. [0:23:30, 0:23:36]: Now that is a list of m how how you want the conditions to read. [0:23:36, 0:23:39]: Well, or is that how they read that right now? [0:23:40, 0:23:50]: I only highlighted the requested changes. So the items that are requested I highlighted each have the their numerical number within the development agreement. [0:23:50, 0:23:56]: Could you enlarge could you I don't know if you can enlarge that. Okay, so [0:23:56, 0:23:59]: Is this what the development agreement says right now? [0:24:00, 0:24:12]: Essentially we just altered the the the requested changes. So this is a list of requested changes. Your l your list. My list. Okay. But the the old development agreement is still in place. [0:24:13, 0:24:33]: So we really need to see kind of what ex the existing and then your proposed changes. Correct. So that way when a staff report is prepared it can it can be evaluated. So on number one evaluate. Uh we're reducing twenty five hundred square feet down one hundred square feet for a a real style home. Um [0:24:33, 0:24:53]: Number two, um they had three sides brick. We're requesting that it be uh three sides hardy plank, fifty percent brick, stone, or hardy plank or a mixture of thereof or or stucco front. So by right now it says three sides brick is required? It does. So uh could you possibly send us uh [0:24:52, 0:25:01]: I I don't know, a letter or something? It's already in the application. The uh the original development agreement. Right. You have a copy of that. [0:25:02, 0:25:09]: Okay, so so there's that that list and the development agreement and then this is your list of propo of of how [0:25:09, 0:25:14]: This is all I wanna alter, d uh just these you know, eight things basically. [0:25:15, 0:25:25]: Um I guess maybe if it might be a little bit clearer if you could the first one is is somewhat clear. Um [0:25:26, 0:25:28]: That you want to change it from [0:25:29, 0:25:32]: twenty five hundred to two twenty four hundred. [0:25:33, 0:25:36]: Yeah. [0:25:36, 0:25:39]: So a third of the single story homes. [0:25:40, 0:25:59]: Would be in the original agreement were to be um 2,500 square feet minimum. We wanted to be a 2400 square feet. Right, right. Just because uh 2400 square feet is forty by sixty and each one of our lots are roughly about fifty feet wide. So with the setbacks, it won't fit. [0:26:00, 0:26:20]: Okay. So I I guess it might be a little bit clearer, you know, for the Planning Commission City Council. But they will fit on the large still have the the list from development agreement, but you know, I think it would be okay clear. I'm happy to prepare a comparison for you. Well if maybe you just reword this. Okay. See this is applicants. [0:26:20, 0:26:35]: proposal this is applicant's proposal to change number one to change from minimum twenty five hundred to twenty four hundred okay and number two to change from you said three sides brick to whatever you know so [0:26:35, 0:26:42]: From this to that. Okay. If you could you know where you were at that point. Uh understood. [0:26:42, 0:26:51]: Right. Okay. Yes, ma'am. Those are just my c I don't know if Gordon, it'll be Linton will be preparing the staff report, maybe. I don't know if he has any comments or questions. [0:26:57, 0:27:15]: Um I don't at this time. We do have the um currently I'm looking through we're looking through the uh development agreement. Um so we're pretty much comparing what the applicant wants versus um versus what they're changing. So that's what we're looking at um at this time. [0:27:21, 0:27:25]: Okay. Still Amy. Do you have anything else have anything else to say? [0:27:25, 0:27:27]: Thank you. All right, thank you. Thank you all. [0:27:30, 0:27:36]: Yes. Going to the back to my presentation. Now to the citizens. [0:27:36, 0:27:40]: Just yeah and then [0:27:50, 0:27:51]: Right here. [0:27:52, 0:27:58]: All right, are there any citizens who have any questions or comments would like to speak? Anyone? [0:27:59, 0:28:10]: And anyone listening um uh online from home, you may contact community development office um if you would like to have any questions or or comments. [0:28:13, 0:28:14]: Um [0:28:14, 0:28:27]: Upcoming public meetings. So we have a planning commission meeting on Thursday, June twenty sixth, um, beginning at six thirty, city council meeting Monday, July fourteenth, beginning at six o'clock. [0:28:28, 0:28:31]: And that's where this case will be discussed at those two meetings. [0:28:32, 0:28:40]: And uh the Planning Commission makes a recommendation and then the city council has a final vote on the case. [0:28:40, 0:28:53]: Uh the next CCIM meeting for anyone who's interested will be on Wednesday, July 9th, beginning at 6 o'clock PM, and that will be for any future uh zoning applications that we may receive. [0:28:56, 0:29:00]: Uh other business? Does anyone have any other business to discuss tonight? [0:29:08, 0:29:28]: Yes, hello. My name is Jarvis, uh intern here at the community development department. Um, other business, we have a community engagement survey. So here at the Stybridge Community Development Department, we're trying to really um bridge this gap between the citizens and our department. And so if you would, you know, fill out this QR code, um, we would really appreciate you taking the time to, you know, give a [0:29:28, 0:29:37]: A few feedback just about, you know, how we can better engage with our citizens and also just provide and contact information to get future updates from our department. Thank you. [0:29:41, 0:29:47]: Okay, that concludes tonight's C C I M meeting. Thank everyone for coming and listening. We're adjourned.