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--- title: Work Session Meeting date: 2022-05-31 source: 2022-05-31_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:02]: Tuesday, May thirty first, like to call it to a [0:00:03, 0:00:06]: And at this time, uh Councilman Alexander, please uh give us the invocation. [0:00:07, 0:00:10]: Okay. Everyone bow your heads, please. [0:00:11, 0:00:31]: Lord, you have brought us to this day, and you have destined this city for greatness. Continue to watch over us, continue to guide us, continue to lead us. Today you had us participate in what I consider to be such an awesome event of coming together of law enforcement and public safety in this time of challenge. [0:00:31, 0:00:50]: Challenge in this community. It was an outpouring of everyone working together and the unifying thing was unity. Tonight we want to practice that at this council meeting, bringing this community together, walking as one, being as one. All the glory to God. Amen. [0:00:50, 0:00:53]: Amen. Please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. [0:00:57, 0:01:07]: Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to a republic which stands a nation, under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. [0:01:10, 0:01:11]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:01:13, 0:01:17]: Mayor Ford. Present. Mayor Pro Tem Thomas. Present. [0:01:17, 0:01:22]: Councilwoman Barber. Present. Councilman Blount. [0:01:23, 0:01:24]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:01:26, 0:01:29]: Let the record reflect, Councilwoman Gantt is not in attendance. [0:01:30, 0:01:36]: They didn't hear my name. I'm here. Alexander. Here. [0:01:37, 0:01:44]: I thank you, Madam Clerk. Uh Council, I need the uh adoption of two the uh agenda please. Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. [0:01:45, 0:01:49]: I'd like to a motion to amend the agenda. [0:01:49, 0:01:53]: to add a presentation from our financial advisor [0:01:53, 0:01:56]: Mr. Ed Walls. Okay, thank you. [0:01:57, 0:01:58]: Second. [0:01:58, 0:02:02]: Yeah, I'll give that to Mr. Glon over here. Uh all in favor, please indicate. [0:02:04, 0:02:19]: Okay, it's unanimous decision. On that note, I'd like to since Mr. Wall's a financial advisor advisor and he's um I wanna keep him here all night, so how about we put that right uh after the old business and before we get into the new he'll make this a new business issue, make this first thing up, a new business, all right? [0:02:20, 0:02:20]: Yeah. [0:02:21, 0:02:24]: Appreciate that. Now on the motion to adopt the overall agenda, please. [0:02:25, 0:02:27]: So move case a second. [0:02:28, 0:02:31]: Second. Mr. Alexander, second that motion. All in favor, please indicate. [0:02:32, 0:02:52]: Thank you, Council. Appreciate that. All right. Before you council, you have the several different draft minutes. Uh you have three retreat minutes for March 8th, March 9th, and March 10th of the council retreat for your review. You also have draft minutes from a council meeting on April 11th, and draft minutes from [0:02:52, 0:03:07]: From a special call meeting on April 25th and also a work session minutes draft on April 26th, Council Work Session. So please review those. We look forward to approve those minutes at our next council meeting early next month. [0:03:07, 0:03:27]: On that note, uh Madam Clerk, we have any public comments at all? There are no public comments at all. Okay, thank you very much. Appreciate that. And on that case, uh we'll move forward. Old business. This is a request for proposal, RFP number two zero one nine, that's zero zero zero three two P, facility security, equipment, systems, and service-related equipment and supply. [0:03:27, 0:03:37]: an amount of five hundred forty two thousand sixty two dot tho five hundred forty two thousand and sixty two hundred and uh ninety-two cents. [0:03:37, 0:03:41]: Um funding source fund balance, Mr Aaron, please. [0:03:42, 0:04:02]: Yes, good evening, Mr. Mayor and Council. Uh this was previously presented to Mayor and Council for approval, and Chief Tramer wanted to review all the location for the uh access control and other related equipment. This will be paid out of fund balance, but the city will be reimbursed once we receive our. [0:04:02, 0:04:15]: our second round of ARPA funding, but this replaces all of the access control that was original to City Hall and the Municipal Court and get all the city buildings on one security platform. [0:04:16, 0:04:23]: Okay. Uh any questions for Mr. Ayer? Ms. Ms G uh M Ms. Barber, go ahead please. [0:04:24, 0:04:31]: Mr. Aaron, I do see the um actual award contract that was submitted. [0:04:31, 0:04:34]: to the council, but I don't see the fully executed copy. [0:04:35, 0:04:37]: With the signatures. [0:04:37, 0:04:38]: That's what I'm looking for. [0:04:38, 0:04:40]: Do you have a copy of that? [0:04:41, 0:04:42]: Chief, do you [0:04:47, 0:04:54]: The fully executed contract. The contract. She would look for the executed contract with Johnson Control. [0:04:55, 0:04:59]: It hasn't been fully executed, it's waiting for council's approval. [0:04:59, 0:05:01]: But I wanted to know have you all [0:05:03, 0:05:04]: Gotten a copy. [0:05:05, 0:05:07]: I don't have a copy, but I can get a copy from procurement. [0:05:08, 0:05:10]: Okay. Okay. That's all. [0:05:10, 0:05:28]: That's all. Uh mayor four yeah go ahead sir please. Chief before you take your seat, um Mr. Aaron, I I did not get a chance to speak to you on this uh issue, uh the holidays and and the day, you know, it was it was a beautiful day today. [0:05:29, 0:05:34]: But I did speak to the chief just a few minutes ago. Chief, um, in the scope [0:05:35, 0:05:48]: of what we're voting on tonight. What I just spoke to you about and I apologize, Miss Aaron, I didn't get a chance to discuss this with you. I think you two may have discussed it, but since it is not in the scope [0:05:48, 0:05:54]: that we're voting on, uh, is that gonna be a problem, the conversation you and I just had. [0:05:55, 0:06:01]: Yes, sir. If the council recalls back in August of last year this was presented um obviously this is a [0:06:01, 0:06:10]: A major issue for the city, especially in light of the times that we find ourselves in, um, in terms of security. So there definitely needs to be upgrades to the security cameras. [0:06:10, 0:06:12]: uh access control [0:06:12, 0:06:15]: And uh the alarm systems here. [0:06:15, 0:06:25]: Last uh time this was presented to council, there was a discussion of funding this, if you recall, and financing this, which was gonna cost us an extra couple hundred thousand dollars to do. [0:06:25, 0:06:32]: Uh the council decided to table at that moment, and this was shortly after I came on board. Mr. Aaron and I worked together to look at the proposal. [0:06:32, 0:06:45]: to make sure that it was sufficient for the security needs of the city. And we went through that, we did our due diligence. We actually had gotten um a couple of different uh quotes from different vendors and found that Johnson Control was the most competitive. [0:06:45, 0:06:50]: Uh at the time that that was discussed, the discussion from council was that um [0:06:51, 0:07:00]: the the there was consideration to uh fund this through the the the fund balance general fund instead of financing it over a multi year period. [0:07:00, 0:07:06]: We had proposed ARPA funding uh before um the conversation that we had had previously. [0:07:07, 0:07:18]: So if that's not the will of the council, this is something that we could then move forward with uh through an alternate funding source, but it is a critical safety need for the city at the moment. [0:07:19, 0:07:23]: Thank you, Chief. I I but I guess I'm still not clear on [0:07:24, 0:07:30]: what we're going to vote on tonight and the fact that you and I just had this discussion about [0:07:31, 0:07:33]: And I just use the word key code. [0:07:34, 0:07:41]: I I'm not sure if it's in the scope of what we're voting on tonight. I don't know if that's gonna be an issue. [0:07:42, 0:07:44]: Um to actually do it. [0:07:45, 0:07:49]: and it's not in what we're voting on tonight. And I don't wanna [0:07:50, 0:07:54]: Oh, I don't want to speak out of term about that security issue. [0:07:55, 0:08:07]: Um, so I'm sorta leaning to you to use the words you think need to be used, but I'm just concerned that if it's not in the scope of what we're voting on, [0:08:07, 0:08:10]: Can we still do it? [0:08:10, 0:08:12]: And it's not in the scope. [0:08:12, 0:08:15]: Of what you and I just talked about about five minutes ago. [0:08:15, 0:08:33]: Yes, I think that would be a question for uh the city manager or uh Mr. Wiggins regarding the potential funding source for the access control and security. As I mentioned before, previously it was noted that we were gonna pull that from general fund uh potentially and we had recommended um [0:08:34, 0:08:41]: Th there's not actually a recommendation for the funding. It's up to the council tonight to approve the five hundred and forty two thousand dollars to upgrade. [0:08:41, 0:09:01]: the security camera system and infrastructure and in terms of how we fund that, that's um a decision that probably needs to uh and and that would be inclusive to include all of those things, even what we talked about earlier. Yes sir. So we have multiple Well I I think I'm good with that if it's [0:09:01, 0:09:02]: Inclusive. [0:09:03, 0:09:08]: I just want us to approve something tonight and we have to come back to approve. [0:09:09, 0:09:20]: That and I know, you know, they don't know what I'm talking about, but I'm leaning toward you to if you think that you wanna explain that, I'm I'm I'll let you do that. I don't wanna speak it. Um [0:09:25, 0:09:26]: There's no [0:09:27, 0:09:32]: Um I don't think there's anything more than a scope. I think we're discussing funding source. Okay. [0:09:35, 0:09:36]: Come. [0:09:37, 0:09:40]: Yeah, maybe. [0:09:41, 0:09:48]: No, no we'll we'll see. Let him let him explain this. Mayor Proter? Yes. You said you wanted to know the funding sauce. [0:09:50, 0:09:50]: Well [0:09:52, 0:09:52]: Where [0:09:53, 0:09:55]: Chief and I talked about a several things, but [0:09:56, 0:09:59]: This is more of of the security item, Chief. [0:10:00, 0:10:01]: About the doors. [0:10:02, 0:10:22]: Oh, okay. I'm sorry, sir. This this would uh this would address that. So just so you understand, this five hundred and forty two thousand dollars is for upgrades to the municipal court system, which is necessary with the implementation of court, that's one hundred and eleven thousand two hundred and one dollars to update the camera systems access control and the alarm system at municipal court. It's a hundred and twenty [0:10:21, 0:10:41]: $27,405 and one cent for all the security upgrades to City Hall.$38,991.22 for the implementation of the system at Ted Strickland, which is currently being renovated.34 for the Merrill Manders Administration Building. [0:10:41, 0:11:01]: $103,759.97 for the Merrill Manders Conference Center. The security network and infrastructure is an additional$72,035.67. The library exterior cameras is$21,667.28. [0:11:01, 0:11:21]: The tag office is fifteen thousand two hundred and sixty-seven dollars and twenty-three cents. And then the City Hall parking lot cameras is twenty-four thousand three dollars eighty-six cents with one year of monitoring at five thousand four hundred and seventy-eight dollars for a total of five hundred and forty-two thousand sixty-two dollars and ninety-two cents for all of those systems. [0:11:21, 0:11:22]: Systems. [0:11:22, 0:11:30]: And and Mayor Portem for City Hall, that would include access management as well, if I'm not mistaken. So in order to g in order to get into the [0:11:31, 0:11:46]: excuse me, in order to get it. It'll include access management for this building as well. So you would have a new camera system for this building and access management for this building to get into this building and all of that be recorded. We'll be able to keep track of who comes in and who goes out. [0:11:48, 0:11:58]: I I think you're answering my question. I'm not sure but I I'll let it go. I don't wanna waste a lot of time on this, but uh it was real Pacific what I was really asking about uh [0:11:59, 0:12:08]: Key code, but I I'll let it go. So so i i if if key code then that will be the same as us being able to buzz [0:12:09, 0:12:16]: into your okay and have that system record okay who operation as it comes in and out. Yeah, I I'm good then. [0:12:17, 0:12:22]: Councilman Bolton. Thank you, Chief. Thank you. I wanted to ask, does the current contract include [0:12:23, 0:12:26]: Um coverage of the amphitheater and the parking lot here. [0:12:26, 0:12:27]: It [0:12:27, 0:12:38]: 'Cause I don't see it listed. The amphitheater already have their system when it was originally built. That was done separately, that and the public works administrative building and the wastewater treatment plan. [0:12:38, 0:12:40]: Can you tell me what the current [0:12:41, 0:12:44]: Can you tell me what additional the current contract covers? [0:12:45, 0:12:56]: I have to look back through previous emails, but we were just trying to include buildings that didn't currently have it or needed to be upgraded and that's part of this package. Those were done outside of this. [0:12:57, 0:13:17]: Yeah, those those were newer buildings. So their security systems came along with their renovation or construction. So the amphitheater, their security system came as part of the construction of that building. The public works building is also a new building. It came along with that. So this sensor will integrate those as well. [0:13:17, 0:13:22]: Everything about it. Yes, ma'am. [0:13:25, 0:13:40]: Go go right ahead, please. I wanted to ask, so why is it important that we cover the library and tag office considering they are county facilities? They are owned by us. Those are city buildings. [0:13:40, 0:13:41]: Yeah, well. [0:13:42, 0:13:52]: And it addresses the exterior cameras also, which is where a lot of overflow parking for special events and downtown activities are. So it would include the parking lot cameras in those locations as well. [0:13:54, 0:13:55]: Council any other questions? [0:13:56, 0:13:57]: Um go ahead, Mr. Blount. [0:13:58, 0:14:18]: Um the you mentioned, Mr. Aaron, that the that the funding source is gonna be reimbursed back into fund balance once uh another are you spec speculating or you is this a actual another wave that's coming? Yes, we'll get another round of ARPA funds. And and so this this amount would actually be put back in fund balance once that comes through be [0:14:18, 0:14:20]: reimbursed back to the city. Yes sir. Gotcha. [0:14:22, 0:14:23]: Another question, Council. [0:14:24, 0:14:34]: And if not, I need a motion to accept this proposal. So moved. So moved right here. Mr. Second, Mr. Alexander Blount Alexander. Any further questions? If not, all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:14:34, 0:14:36]: Namcy C. Thank you, gentlemen. Appreciate it. [0:14:37, 0:14:38]: Uh yes ma'am. [0:14:41, 0:15:01]: Right now it's not. Funding source will be fund balance to be to be replaced by opera funds once we get our second round, which we heard today should be oh God, um next month. Um in a GMA in our GMA meeting this morning with uh the head of GMA, they said that our Alpha Funds should be [0:15:01, 0:15:04]: be released next month. Okay. Thank you. Appreciate that. [0:15:05, 0:15:13]: What we have next is added to the agenda, Mr. Wall, you have a presentation for us, sir? Yes, sir. I appreciate that. Please come forward. [0:15:13, 0:15:20]: And then of course if uh if you need any assistance from our finance, Mr. Witting, is you coming up as well? Okay. Okay. [0:15:22, 0:15:26]: Go ahead, Ms. Wall. Thank you, Mayor. Mayor and Council should have a copy of the presentation before you. [0:15:27, 0:15:29]: Yes sir. [0:15:29, 0:15:30]: Look at page one. [0:15:31, 0:15:34]: Okay. [0:15:34, 0:15:40]: Where we are now, you did three bond issues last year and just wanted to guess refresh your memory about it. [0:15:41, 0:15:41]: Um [0:15:41, 0:15:46]: The first one series A, you can see that it's nine million nine hundred and ten thousand. [0:15:46, 0:15:49]: It'll all pay out in five years. [0:15:50, 0:15:53]: Of the nine million nine ten, seven million was for the amphitheater. [0:15:54, 0:15:59]: And two million nine was for the Cultural Arts Center. This was gonna be paid from sploshed five. [0:16:00, 0:16:13]: Under the amphitheater, you see we added general fund cash of five million dollars and we had a balance in the splosh four account. You remember we had a bond up at Regents Bank that we hadn't spent and we repurposed it from Wells to this project? [0:16:13, 0:16:17]: So you had eighteen million three hundred thousand dollars budgeted for the amphitheater. [0:16:17, 0:16:19]: And that was the source of funding. [0:16:19, 0:16:21]: Turn to the next page, page two. [0:16:22, 0:16:30]: If you remember, out of Splosh 5, we borrowed$1 million for the trail system to get it jump started. It would be paid in five years from SPLOS 5. [0:16:31, 0:16:32]: Next page, page three. [0:16:33, 0:16:42]: May uh remember we had a series C bond. Ms. Wall, stand by. Yes, sir. You have a question? Uh yeah, I know we kinda went through the uh splots forward at six three. [0:16:42, 0:16:45]: Six point three. Yes, sir. Um [0:16:45, 0:16:52]: Wasn't it some of the uh Miss Williams, wasn't some of that those fundings already uh um appropriated out? [0:16:52, 0:17:07]: So there was cash money and then there was a bond issue that was at Regions Bank. And this six million three was all the proceeds of that bond issue at Regions Bank. But Splosh Four also had a cash balance that you had used appropriate, I think, for some of the road work. [0:17:07, 0:17:12]: That's correct. Right, right. About three million. So actually on hand is [0:17:12, 0:17:27]: is zero and we just and but we still have a bond issue there. Correct. Got you. Got you. I'm sorry. I just wanted to keep up and make sure I'm getting it. Remember back when you did splice four the county sold bonds on behalf of you themselves and one other city. I can't maybe it was Locus Grove. [0:17:27, 0:17:33]: And um that money was to be used for wells and you decided you didn't need those wells. Right, got you. [0:17:34, 0:17:41]: Thank you, sir. Continue on, please. Page two was the trail bonds that we talked about, and that was payable from Splash 5. [0:17:42, 0:17:44]: Then page three. [0:17:44, 0:17:54]: was the bond issue that was gonna be paid from your journal fund over a fifteen year period. It was fourteen point eight million. How we spent that money was three million dollars for police equipment. [0:17:55, 0:17:57]: And eleven million one hundred thousand for the cultural arts center. [0:17:58, 0:18:14]: That Cultural Arts Center was eleven million one from this bond issue, plus two million nine from the Series A that was gonna be paid from SPLOS. So you had fourteen million dollars budgeted for the cultural arts center. And I know y'all all know this, I just wanna refresh your memories. Yes, sir. Next page. [0:18:14, 0:18:16]: So my task tonight [0:18:16, 0:18:17]: Is the original project [0:18:18, 0:18:30]: Uh this is page four. Original project for the Cultural Arts Center was budgeted at$14 million. You had TSW do um uh schematics for you and plans, and they've come in at about thirty-two million. [0:18:31, 0:18:33]: And you think that you can build it for about twenty five million. [0:18:34, 0:18:37]: It eleves leaves a funding gap of eleven million. [0:18:37, 0:18:41]: And so my task was where could we get that eleven milyen dollars? [0:18:42, 0:18:46]: to go with the fourteen million you already have to get a twenty five million dollar cultural art center. [0:18:47, 0:19:00]: So the sources of funds that uh I and your staff, Mr. Gardiner and Mr. Wiggins and I have come up with is one is the City General Fund cash from fund balance, two the ARP funds. I think there's three million dollars of that remaining. [0:19:01, 0:19:01]: Well. [0:19:01, 0:19:17]: will be from the second tranche that we're gonna be getting in. Number three is bonds through a public facilities authority, like we sold those first three series, A, B, and C, a new new bond issue through the Public Facilities Authority. And four is a future spLOS referendum, SPLOS six. [0:19:17, 0:19:20]: So if you would turn to the next page, page five. [0:19:20, 0:19:40]: Let's talk about the first available funding, ARP money. So I went to the United States Treasury Department and I pulled off the internet. What are the uses for the ARP money? And I have it circled down there at the bottom. I'm on the bottom of page five. I'd like to start off number one, replace lost public sector revenue. [0:19:40, 0:19:50]: So College Park, a client of mine, suffered mightily. They had thirty six hotels in the city. Hotel motel taxes fell from twelve million dollars a year to two million dollars. [0:19:50, 0:19:52]: And so they suffered mightily. [0:19:52, 0:19:59]: You all haven't suffered because most of your revenue is sales tax and sales tax has gone up during the pandemic. [0:19:59, 0:20:14]: And so the Treasury says that that lost revenue part needs to be citywide and not just a particular fund. So I do not think that we could fit the Cultural Arts Center under that first category to replace lost public sector revenue. [0:20:14, 0:20:21]: Go to the next bullet point, respond to the far reaching public health and negative economic impacts of the pandemic. [0:20:21, 0:20:23]: Put a pen in that one. [0:20:23, 0:20:24]: Go to the third one. [0:20:25, 0:20:27]: Provide premium pay for essential workers. [0:20:28, 0:20:30]: Well clearly the cultural arts center won't fit into that. [0:20:30, 0:20:34]: And then the fourth bullet point that the ARP money's available for. [0:20:34, 0:20:39]: says invest in water, sewer, and broadband internet infrastructure. [0:20:39, 0:20:47]: Well, clearly a cultural arts center is not going to fit under that. So let's go to that second bullet point. Let's read what it says by way of explanation. [0:20:48, 0:21:05]: It says respond to the far-reaching public health and negative economic impacts of the pandemic by supporting the health of communities and helping households, small businesses, impacted industries, nonprofits, and the public sector recover from the economic impacts. [0:21:05, 0:21:19]: So underneath that broad category, I had a conversation today with your city attorney, Quentin Washington, and he had reached out to a fellow attorney that he works with named Emily, I can't recall her last name. And Quentin, could I turn this part over to you and you talk a little bit about that? [0:21:27, 0:21:29]: Ms. Wat Ms. Watson, could you come to the front, please? [0:21:36, 0:21:52]: I didn't surprise you, did it? You knew I was gonna call. Yeah, I got it right here. Okay. So in our conversations, uh the attorney he's referring to is one of the attorneys is in my office. And here are some of the things that we're fleshing out now. So this is not determinative, but [0:21:52, 0:22:07]: ARPA funds may be used as it relates to the Arts Center to respond to the public health emergency or its negative economic impacts, including assistance to households, small business, and nonprofits, or to aid impacted industries such as tourism, travel, and hospitality. [0:22:07, 0:22:10]: The arts as a sector suffered greatly during the pandemic. [0:22:10, 0:22:18]: Losing roughly 50% of their funding and income. Tourism was also negatively impacted, and this is recognized by Treasury and their ARPA guidance document. [0:22:19, 0:22:29]: If the city used the Arts Center to support the local arts community, as well as tourism and those in the community most harmed by the pandemic, then the city may have a case for arguing that the arts center fits under this category. [0:22:30, 0:22:35]: to make the argument the city would have to prioritize serving the hardest hit communities and families. [0:22:35, 0:22:55]: Which includes addressing educational disparities through new or expanded early learning services, providing additional resources to high poverty school districts, and offering educational services like tutoring and after-school programs, as well as services to address social, emotional, and mental health needs. All of these entries could be furthered by an art center that is integrated in the community. [0:22:55, 0:23:15]: The city could also allow the space to be used by the local arts nonprofit organizations, especially those that serve disadvantaged communities, and use the center to provide children who have been unable to participate in arts activities at school due to the pandemic with access to arts education activities and leverage the center as a tourist attraction for the city by hosting arts festivals and other events that would. [0:23:15, 0:23:35]: Would attract tourism interest. And so these may be a possibility, but this is stuff that we've been working on for the past couple of days to try to get an answer to. But we would like to get some level of guidance from, and I know this is a stretch, but from the Department of Treasury itself, if we were going to make such a large allocation. [0:23:35, 0:23:42]: Allocation of the ARPA funds. And you tell me what your thoughts are about it. But that's what we discussed, that's what Mr. Wall and I discussed today. [0:23:43, 0:23:45]: All right, thank you. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [0:23:46, 0:23:53]: I um one of the things I don't ever wanna see the city enter into is a situation where we gotta now [0:23:54, 0:24:09]: do something to fit the situation. I prefer of us having a situation and we do something to fit the situ that type of way, not to curtail something in the city to to match up to something in order to do what we have to do when it comes, especially when it comes to these government fundings. [0:24:10, 0:24:24]: Uh I see personally, because you said it was undetermined right now, you say you're fleshing this out. Uh I I would hope that we would get something a little more concrete than that prior to us even um looking at going down this road because [0:24:25, 0:24:27]: Nothing in my opinion, you just say it. [0:24:27, 0:24:47]: matches anything that we should be able to do in funding using that one, using this bullet point and looking over the other one. I don't see anything in these that fit what we're trying to do in building a cultural arts center. I mean that's a far reach, but if if there's a situation that has that sets precedence for this, I would love to see [0:24:47, 0:24:54]: See it, but at this point, I don't see anything that that fits us that that says we can use that funding. I just don't. [0:24:56, 0:24:59]: Mayor Ford. Um [0:25:00, 0:25:13]: First, let me, if I may, Mayor, let me introduce um the executive to the mayor and council, Ms. Rosalind Ross. Would you stand please? Um [0:25:14, 0:25:34]: I asked Mrs. Ross to do some research for me and she provided um on the dais a document that speaks to Mr. Washington and um Mr. Walls, which you just spoke to, uh the benefits of [0:25:34, 0:25:38]: of cultural arts uh in the community. [0:25:39, 0:25:41]: I think this research [0:25:41, 0:25:50]: And this document indicates what you just you just mentioned. Um, I know you three. [0:25:50, 0:26:10]: Uh I'm not I'm not sure about the city manager, but I don't know if y'all have this document based on the research. Uh and I asked Mrs. Rawls before you leave today, maybe um she can give you a copy of this. But I think this document here and this research uh speaks to [0:26:10, 0:26:20]: exactly what you just you just mentioned. So I I I think it is in line with um what you just read. So I just wanted to just emphasize [0:26:20, 0:26:22]: That point and I know [0:26:23, 0:26:27]: Council members may not have had the opportunity to to read this. [0:26:28, 0:26:36]: But um it is here. Yeah, and I will be sending you all a more detailed memo. We're literally just fleshing this out right now. Those are the bullet points that we have from [0:26:37, 0:26:40]: So Ms. Row, do you have any additional copies? [0:26:41, 0:26:47]: Okay. So if you could make sure that uh these gentlemen have a copy thank you. [0:26:47, 0:26:49]: Thank you, Mayor. Okay. [0:26:50, 0:26:51]: So Mr Alzone? [0:26:52, 0:26:52]: Um [0:26:53, 0:26:53]: Cousin Barber. [0:26:54, 0:26:56]: Really quick. Um I know [0:26:57, 0:27:07]: that we're just discussing. Um but for the finance options, I kinda need to know what our current balances are for SPLOS. [0:27:08, 0:27:11]: Slice five, slice four, I know you referenced that. [0:27:11, 0:27:14]: Um, but these were conversations we had. [0:27:14, 0:27:19]: So I'll get to that. December twenty twenty. I will. Yeah, yeah. [0:27:21, 0:27:21]: Um [0:27:24, 0:27:25]: Okay. [0:27:25, 0:27:27]: So so uh in my [0:27:28, 0:27:34]: possible funding sources of future SPLOST. I think your existing SPLOST [0:27:34, 0:27:40]: is already pledged to various projects and so I'm not thinking there's any money in Splos five. [0:27:40, 0:27:43]: for this project other than what you've already budgeted. [0:27:43, 0:27:44]: And so [0:27:45, 0:27:45]: Part of my [0:27:46, 0:27:53]: One of my plans for you in trying to come up with eleven million would be a future splos that we would vote a couple of years from now. [0:27:54, 0:27:57]: Okay. And so and then I've got a ba I've got your balances in the general fund. [0:27:57, 0:27:59]: I'll talk about those in just a minute. [0:27:59, 0:28:00]: Thank you. Yes, ma'am. [0:28:02, 0:28:07]: So um continue on, sir. Go ahead, please. And i if y'all'll just put a pen in that we'll come back to it. So [0:28:07, 0:28:11]: So the ARP is possibility of three million bucks. [0:28:11, 0:28:13]: Next page, page six. [0:28:14, 0:28:16]: Let's talk about cash and the general fund. [0:28:16, 0:28:36]: The last audit that we have is I'm on page six is December thirty-one, twenty twenty. I've circled at the top. The cash balance is eleven million and twelve thousand dollars. And look down here at the bottom where I've circled, it takes that fund balance down at the bottom that it shows a total fund balance of seventeen million dollars at December thirty. [0:28:36, 0:28:41]: thirty twenty twenty. And then this shows you that thirteen million is unassigned. [0:28:41, 0:28:50]: A million one is assigned for purchases on order. Two million one ninety-seven is assets held available for sale, and ninety-six thousand is prepaid. [0:28:50, 0:28:58]: So of the seventeen million dollars ending fund balance that we had in twenty twenty, go to the very top and you can see eleven million dollars of it is cash money. [0:29:00, 0:29:02]: Go to the next page, page seven. [0:29:03, 0:29:05]: Let's look at your revenue and expense for twenty twenty. [0:29:06, 0:29:16]: So if you'll look down here at the very bottom, the second circle that I have, you can see that 17 million dollar ending fund balance that we had. Eleven million of it is cash. [0:29:16, 0:29:26]: We're projecting that the fund balance out of December twenty twenty one that you will add one point six million dollars of cash to that fund balance. So [0:29:26, 0:29:34]: Mr. Wiggins and I are projecting that y'all will have a fund balance equal to twelve million six hundred thousand dollars as of December thirty-one, twenty-one. [0:29:35, 0:29:48]: And then go back up top of the page, you can see the first circle, that six million one forty five. We had transferred out money for the amphitheater. And so that's why the fund balance is less than what y'all are used to seeing. [0:29:49, 0:29:53]: And so if you wanted to take some of your cash money [0:29:53, 0:30:06]: to make up the eleven million and I would think the process you'll go through if you decide to do the Cultural Arts Center and you wanna fund this eleven million dollar gap, it'll be a combination of these options, not all one or the other. [0:30:06, 0:30:09]: So you have twelve million six available in cash. [0:30:11, 0:30:12]: Turn to the next page. [0:30:13, 0:30:25]: Another option is you do a fourth bond issue. You know, we did three last year. You do a fourth bond issue through that public facilities authority that you all had the Georgia legislature create for you, like most cities have. [0:30:25, 0:30:34]: And uh I just did a eleven million two hundred and twenty-five thousand dollar bond issue to fund the entire thing. If you would turn to the next page, page nine. [0:30:34, 0:30:38]: Okay, sorry. Let's go back to page seven. This is going along pretty quickly. [0:30:38, 0:30:39]: Yes, sir. [0:30:39, 0:30:44]: Okay, uh w uh what's the current foreign balance, Mr. Williams? [0:30:46, 0:30:50]: The current fund fund balance as announced about eighteen years. [0:30:50, 0:30:57]: Right. We're at eight we're at eighteen million and uh you said that uh we're going down to twelve [0:30:58, 0:31:11]: That's that's only cash. Right, that's going down to twelve. So we're the whole not the whole fund balance. Okay, so that's twelve. We were going down to twelve and so today our cash balance on a fund balance is what? Cash. [0:31:12, 0:31:20]: Twelve million six. Twelve million six will be cash. Okay, so very re right uh right around the same area in cash. Okay. All right, thank you. [0:31:20, 0:31:32]: And so if you order s there's some property available for sale. Right, we said we have a bunch of properties that are available. So those for once those properties sell, that number will go up liquid wise. There you go. That was the point I was trying to make. Right. [0:31:33, 0:31:34]: And then look at the last page. [0:31:35, 0:31:37]: And then I'll hush and take questions. [0:31:37, 0:31:38]: is [0:31:38, 0:31:41]: A fifteen year bond issue today is around three point three percent. [0:31:42, 0:32:02]: And so you can see I did interest only for the first three years so that you could hopefully vote a new splost to pay down whatever amount of money you borrowed, and you would only have to carry the interest only. And then when the newsplost came in, you would pay these bonds off early with no prepayment penalty. And so I did a 50. [0:32:02, 0:32:13]: fifteen year amortization in case the spLOS didn't pass so that you could afford whatever the amount is, and I did interest only so that you didn't really have to hit the general fund until a new spLOS passes. [0:32:15, 0:32:24]: So if you were to do the entire amount through a bond issue, the the the hit to the general fund would be three hundred and seventy thousand dollars a year until you could vote a new spot. [0:32:26, 0:32:26]: We didn't. [0:32:27, 0:32:28]: Two seven three seventy. [0:32:29, 0:32:40]: Until you can vote a new split. That's up to the citizens to vote that in, obviously. The citizens of the entire county. Right right, of the entire county. Got it. [0:32:41, 0:32:42]: Okay. [0:32:43, 0:32:44]: In addition to the same. [0:32:44, 0:32:46]: If I could get everybody to go back page four. Four, okay. [0:32:52, 0:33:04]: And so on page four you can see the four options there. Maybe from all four you cobble together uh the eleven million from various different options and don't do it all at in out of one. [0:33:05, 0:33:05]: But [0:33:05, 0:33:06]: Good. [0:33:06, 0:33:10]: That was my presentation there. Okay, appreciate it, sir. Thank you. Questions, Council? [0:33:13, 0:33:14]: Mayor Potem, you ready? Go ahead go ahead, sir. [0:33:16, 0:33:36]: Mr. Walls, um I wanna thank you and and Mr. Wiggins, you and I spoke um last week uh uh about some of this. Uh Mr. Wallace, I wanna thank you for uh the homework and due diligence in identifying a path forward. [0:33:36, 0:33:42]: for us. I think you laid it out. I think it's doable. [0:33:43, 0:34:03]: And and what's driving my efforts is knowing the impact that the Cultural R facility will have in this city, in this community, and especially uh when we continue to talk about uh down. [0:34:03, 0:34:10]: downtown development and and what that means. So I just want to say thank you. Um [0:34:10, 0:34:21]: I'm satisfied with with the pass forward. Um, hopefully the council will see the vision as I see it and hopefully we can move forward. Thank you. [0:34:22, 0:34:22]: Because [0:34:23, 0:34:23]: Go ahead. [0:34:25, 0:34:26]: Ms. Barber, you got a question? [0:34:28, 0:34:29]: Thank you. Um so [0:34:30, 0:34:30]: Um [0:34:31, 0:34:35]: These four funding sources that are listed on page four. [0:34:36, 0:34:41]: І водіу і гадали проджекс оркетю. [0:34:41, 0:34:42]: That have been allocated. [0:34:43, 0:34:43]: Um [0:34:44, 0:34:49]: I need to know what has already hit the account and what has not, is pending. [0:34:49, 0:34:55]: I just want to see the breakdown of it all. So the from from the city general fund cash [0:34:55, 0:35:09]: That twelve million six, there's it's not budgeted for anything yet. So I don't have anything to deduct from that. From the ARP funds, that three million that is remaining, that's what's remaining you've actually appropriated all the other ARP money. [0:35:10, 0:35:18]: And so the bonds can be whatever the balance needs to get you to eleven million. And then a future spLOSS referendum, I think [0:35:19, 0:35:20]: If if [0:35:20, 0:35:27]: If we were gonna use any of your existing SPLOS four or splos five money, I don't think there's any SPLOS four left. No, nothing. [0:35:28, 0:35:42]: If we were gonna use any of your existing Splosh Five money, I would have had a number five and I would have done you a revenue and expense for that. But Splosh Five isn't owned here as an option because none of its cash is available for this project. It's all been appropriated by you. [0:35:42, 0:35:44]: So on these four items [0:35:45, 0:35:56]: There's nothing that you have to worry about that this money has been appropriated somewhere else. It is money that's available for this project if you want to use it. Does that make sense? [0:35:57, 0:36:01]: It does, um but I'd like to see [0:36:02, 0:36:03]: A a statement. [0:36:04, 0:36:05]: For Mr. Wiggins, [0:36:05, 0:36:12]: What what what kind of statement like uh a breakdown of all of those transactions that have hit. [0:36:12, 0:36:16]: The splas the counts splas four splas five. [0:36:16, 0:36:18]: Um the ARPA funds. [0:36:18, 0:36:20]: I'm a visual person, sorry. [0:36:23, 0:36:27]: I see what you're asking. From the moment you got those monies, what have they been spent on? [0:36:28, 0:36:29]: We get it. [0:36:31, 0:36:31]: Mm. [0:36:32, 0:36:41]: Okay. Okay, good deal. Mr. Wiggins. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. You got another question? Go ahead, please. [0:36:42, 0:36:45]: Um thank you uh for the presentation. [0:36:45, 0:36:47]: When this um [0:36:49, 0:36:54]: I'm I'm a true believer in path forward, I'm a true believer in uh vision for the city. [0:36:54, 0:37:06]: But w one of the things I'm a true believer in is seeing how you're gonna get there. And for me is that I know when we first started the uh venture of and talking about the Cultural Arts Center, [0:37:06, 0:37:11]: Um we was at fourteen million. I think that fourteen million was bonded. [0:37:11, 0:37:27]: uh it within the bond that was already taken. And then we said, well, we'll go up to eighteen million. We'll see where we get the m we'll see where we can get that from. Well when we look at the three million offer funding and pretty sure there's a million in here so you can get that we'll bring it up to eighteen [0:37:28, 0:37:35]: But now we're talking about twenty-five million, as you all know. When you talk about twenty five million, just like we did with the amphitheater. [0:37:35, 0:37:53]: This area has a rock quarry. You're gonna hit all kind of unsuitable soils, you're gonna hit all kind of stuff when building anything of mass they they hit uh a lot of stuff when they built this city hall because of the area. So we know that that twenty-five million can easily go up in numbers. [0:37:53, 0:38:03]: So whatever numbers are decided today, those aren't concrete. As you know in any construction, those numbers aren't concrete and they don't be very certainly go down, they go up. [0:38:03, 0:38:09]: And so I'm just trying to figure out how do we w we're getting down to twenty five million dollars. [0:38:09, 0:38:21]: with with something that's actually on here that we can use and s and and some of it is speculation and some of it's probabilities and some of it's long term. So I'm just trying to figure out how do we get there [0:38:21, 0:38:31]: from there because as you know, Mr. Walls, I've talked to you uh and I've talked to uh city manager, uh, this council. We have a lot on the table. [0:38:32, 0:38:33]: And when we [0:38:33, 0:38:35]: Don't address in total. [0:38:35, 0:38:36]: In totality what [0:38:37, 0:38:38]: expenditures are gonna be [0:38:39, 0:38:43]: next year and going f and and and moving forward. [0:38:44, 0:38:47]: If we don't expect d discuss those expenditures. [0:38:48, 0:38:57]: then we're putting a facade up of what's actually happening because we're not even b we need to be transparent what our expenditure is gonna be. When we did a um [0:38:58, 0:39:14]: financial uh analysis for up to twenty twenty four. It was told then that our finances gonna almost double. So when we talk about now we going now seven seven million dollars more on another project, that will probably end up going more than that. [0:39:15, 0:39:21]: Let's talk in total what these fun I agree agree with Councilwoman Barber. She wants to see the finances, I do too. [0:39:21, 0:39:34]: Because to speak on this and not knowing totally what the city's expenditures can be and could be and what we're what we're getting versus what we're hurting and what I you you're in the dark with this one project. [0:39:35, 0:39:36]: And for me [0:39:36, 0:39:40]: The path forward for me is not to be on the dark about anything. [0:39:41, 0:39:47]: And when we're talking about now we're talking about millions upon millions upon millions that now we're sp spending. [0:39:48, 0:40:02]: I just need to make sure with something in hand, somet something in my face saying this is how we're gonna make it happen. This is what the expenditure is gonna be a year down the road, two years down the road. Cause what I've seen now from from [0:40:02, 0:40:09]: from the city, from the financial advisor and for what was given to me, we've got we got some decisions to make on how we're gonna [0:40:11, 0:40:15]: How are we gonna make these expenditures? How how financially how are we gonna do this? [0:40:15, 0:40:20]: I'm not against anything. I'm not against a cultural arts center. I'm not against anything that would [0:40:20, 0:40:22]: Enhance this community. [0:40:22, 0:40:24]: I'm just the type of person just like [0:40:24, 0:40:36]: We have a council member say they're visual. I'm the type of person that needs to see myself how we're gonna do it. And then that's when I can do the Toyota kick. But right now I'm trying to figure out how we're gonna do it with the numbers that's already been given. [0:40:37, 0:40:38]: I don't see how we're gonna do it. [0:40:41, 0:40:42]: Go right ahead, Mr. Alzheimer. [0:40:43, 0:41:03]: Okay, a couple of things I wanna understand. I'm fully in support of uh doing the project as best in class and making sure that we build it uh in a way that doesn't sacrifice the vision that we originally saw and the twenty five million dollars uh actually gets us there to that number. [0:41:03, 0:41:16]: Now what you've described here, you know, honestly it would seem to be a stretch in terms of the um the funding. You know, I wouldn't want to reach out to the Treasury to get a [0:41:17, 0:41:25]: interpretation on this particular thing, honestly, because it you know, we we we got the interpretation that we wanted on [0:41:25, 0:41:27]: public safety in order to do that. [0:41:27, 0:41:47]: But in order to build a solid case in terms of what we're doing right now, I want to be uh us reasonable. There may be other options that'll be put on the table uh at some point, but the what you indicated today was a interest only option where we were paying three hundred and seventy thousand dollars for three years, is that correct? Yes, sir. [0:41:47, 0:42:07]: Making no progress on the principal for three entire years, and then you're waiting on a spLOS that may or may not be approved by the voters. That was my option. And the reason I had done it that way, you all have to absorb your police department into your budget. So I thought I would put as little burden on your journal fund budget as I [0:42:07, 0:42:12]: I could until we could pay cash for the improvements from Splost. That was my thought. [0:42:13, 0:42:33]: Right. So uh the options that vi basically you've given us is another bond or uh a future splice'cause basically uh you're saying that um the current spLos has already been exhausted or allocated on all channels. So pretty much it would be we just started collecting [0:42:33, 0:42:40]: What when do we just start collecting from Splos 5? April 1 of 20. Say again? April one of twenty twenty. [0:42:40, 0:43:00]: The April one of twenty twenty we started collecting all the time. It was five years. So the county kept the first year and then you started getting money in twenty one. So the next blocks would go on the ballot when? In twenty twenty five or twenty twenty-four? Twenty one, twenty-two, twenty-three, twenty-four, twenty-five. It'll expire March thirty first of twenty twenty-five. But it'll so there'll be [0:43:00, 0:43:11]: But you could but if you wanted [0:43:11, 0:43:17]: Mature principle all along you could, it's just the general fund'll have to tote it until we get some other revenue source. [0:43:18, 0:43:26]: Right, but w these other bonds are gonna come or come and do, correct? Sure. These other bonds are coming due that been allocated that we took out, correct? [0:43:28, 0:43:39]: Talk about the SPLOS funds? The bonds that we took out for the amphitheater and the five years. Oh yeah, the PFA money. Right. So two of the PFA bonds are being paid for a SPLOSS five. Right. And then the other one's paid out of the general fund. [0:43:40, 0:43:41]: The third the third one. [0:43:41, 0:43:50]: Okay, what's the general fund on that? What is it what? What's the general fund gonna be on that? What is the payment gonna be? On page three? [0:43:52, 0:43:57]: You can see that the payment out of the general fund for that is about a million five a year. [0:43:58, 0:44:14]: And the r reason it's higher in the middle, you had to amortize the public safety equipment over its useful life and then the Cultural Arts Center was a amortized level over a fifteen year life. So the general fund's burden on that [0:44:14, 0:44:20]: uh series C bond is um starting in twenty three would be one point five million a year. [0:44:20, 0:44:32]: Right. So at this point the other option d that's what I'm saying, you put another option on the table which says take out another bond and we have a million and a half dollars due out of the general fund already. Is that what [0:44:33, 0:44:34]: Okay. So [0:44:34, 0:44:54]: What I'm saying is that I want to look at all options in order to move this project forward. I want the city staff to continue moving down the path of completing the project. And I think we can do that in terms of our overall vision for the project, uh in terms of the design and everything, because we want it to be on a superior level. [0:44:54, 0:45:14]: But we need to continue to look at what the actual funding options are going to be for the particular project because in the end we want to be very sound in order to get there. Make no mistake about it. I support I don't want I don't support going back to an$18 million version because that's sound. [0:45:14, 0:45:34]: sacrifices pretty much everything that we wanted uh in the project. So that to me, I couldn't support that. I just want to look at um some other options. I'm sure there are other options that the stay that the staff can go back, bring back to us. This is a first swing at it. There'll be other uh things that we can look at to see whether or not we [0:45:34, 0:45:36]: We could do something additional. [0:45:38, 0:45:39]: Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. [0:45:41, 0:45:46]: One thing I wanted to to clarify, uh Mr. Walls again, thank you. Um [0:45:47, 0:45:54]: The past forward i is is clear for me. I guess I'm the only one. But but I think where we'll sort of uh have a misunderstanding [0:45:55, 0:45:58]: The eleven million dollars from ARPR. [0:45:59, 0:46:06]: And I know Councilwoman Barber wanna see what it's been spent for. So let me use the word past tense. [0:46:07, 0:46:15]: Eight million out of the eleven is already accounted for. So there's no future. [0:46:15, 0:46:16]: Hit to that. [0:46:17, 0:46:23]: Eight millions, eight out of the eleven is accounted for. So there's no hit there. [0:46:24, 0:46:25]: But I know you wanna see [0:46:26, 0:46:28]: The obligation for that eight [0:46:29, 0:46:36]: But there's no there's no no hit there. It's already been allocated for. But there are three million. [0:46:36, 0:46:39]: [2799.4, 2802.3]: And that's what we're talking about. We're talking about the three million. [0:46:43, 0:46:44]: Um [0:46:44, 0:46:47]: We're talking about abundance scenario. [0:46:48, 0:46:50]: For three years. [0:46:50, 0:46:54]: And I don't know, I wanna ask the question to anyone in here that can answer. [0:46:54, 0:46:56]: Він газа сплаш. [0:46:56, 0:46:58]: Never passed in Henry County. [0:46:59, 0:47:00]: Uh Mr Gardner, do [0:47:00, 0:47:01]: Can you answer that? [0:47:02, 0:47:02]: No we [0:47:03, 0:47:06]: Right. Two thousand two thousand two. [0:47:06, 0:47:24]: Two thousand two it did not appear not T splosh now. No, regular Splos. Okay, two thousand two and um Mr Maddox was chairman, came in as chairman back in two thousand and two and pushed for the vote against the sploss and it died. It came back up again later that year and was and passed. [0:47:25, 0:47:26]: Okay has field before. [0:47:26, 0:47:36]: Okay. So I'm I'm just saying, you know, we we do have history. Good history. Yes. And you know, um my thing too is about waiting. [0:47:38, 0:47:41]: You know, I've been on this council you you got another [0:47:43, 0:47:48]: N and and not to cut you off, council member. I I think i if I'm hearing everybody [0:47:49, 0:47:58]: And I I think I'd mention it to the mayor. If if if it's if it's council wish to make this obviously for us to look at this project. [0:47:58, 0:48:03]: And to keep it moving, um, just authorize us to come back with some recommended [0:48:03, 0:48:19]: funding potentials and present those to y'all and then you guys can pick from that that that whatever that menu is that we produce and be able to back it up to say here here are solid funding sources that would fund that eleven million dollar gap. [0:48:19, 0:48:39]: Can you have that prepared by the thirteenth? Say again. Can you have that prepared by the thirteenth? Yes, sir. And Mr. Wiggins, could you get that listing of the eight million that's already been accounted for to the council? I I've seen it already. I asked for it and you did provide. You're talking about for the ARPA, right? Yes. Yeah, you you saw Yeah, I I've already [0:48:39, 0:48:51]: seen it. I guess I guess I have information that they don't have, but I've already seen it what it's accounting for. But I agree with that, Mr. Gardner. Um All right. If that's the case, how about make do we need a motion for that? [0:48:51, 0:49:00]: Yes, I'm not sure. All right, so how about how about that gives us that gives us a clear directive. Okay, good deal. So how how about let's do a motion for that and see if we can second and approve it and move on. [0:49:00, 0:49:20]: Mayor Ford, I'd like to move that we test uh Mr. Gardner and staff along with Mr. Wiggins. I know we can't I know we can ask Mr. Walls uh if they would prepare uh a pass forward, an additional pass forward with funding sources by the um Julius. [0:49:20, 0:49:22]: Mm-hmm. [0:49:23, 0:49:23]: Okay. [0:49:25, 0:49:25]: Um [0:49:27, 0:49:29]: I'm I'm sorry I'm sorry, June June. [0:49:30, 0:49:35]: Which the next council mean, June thirteen. June thirteenth. June thirteenth. Mr. Alexander seconded that motion. [0:49:35, 0:49:37]: Plenty of discussion. All favor, please indicate. [0:49:39, 0:49:39]: Opposed. [0:49:40, 0:49:41]: Abstain? [0:49:41, 0:49:55]: The motion, sir. Okay, so it's a unanimous decision. We're forward to motion. Mr. Wall, thank you. Thank you very much. Makes me think though, Mr. Wall, that it seems like you'll probably be back with us on the thirteenth, I would imagine. Yes, sir. Okay. Thank you. Good deal. Thank you, Mr. Walls. Thank you all. Appreciate it. [0:49:56, 0:50:03]: Okay, we'll move on. Council consideration to approve Tace Tuesie additions and budget amendment. Ms. Jordan, please. [0:50:05, 0:50:06]: Mm-hmm. [0:50:06, 0:50:07]: Mm-hmm. [0:50:07, 0:50:22]: Hello, thank you for having me today. Um I'm Kim Jordan, the events manager, and I'm here to request additional fundings to add uh Tasty Tuesdays food truck events to the calendar. We um with the return of Tasty Tuesdays [0:50:22, 0:50:29]: the event to the city has been well received and we have been asked to extend the tasty Tuesdays [0:50:29, 0:50:32]: through July and August. [0:50:32, 0:50:33]: Um [0:50:34, 0:50:43]: We have had a great turnout and we will continue with the June seventh and June fourteenth events. And we wanted to have a robust program on June fourteenth with a concert that showcases [0:50:44, 0:50:46]: Um the saxophone musician Richard Shaw. [0:50:46, 0:50:49]: А і вобі он на стежкоманс. [0:50:50, 0:50:50]: Um [0:50:51, 0:51:10]: In order to maximize the opportunities and offer a robust pro promotion plan, we would like to request additional funding of fourteen thousand dollars. This will allow us to offer eight additional Tasty Tuesdays on July twelfth, nineteenth, and the twenty-sixth, and again in August on the 2nd, 9, 16, 23, and 30th Tuesdays. [0:51:12, 0:51:14]: We will begin um [0:51:14, 0:51:30]: radio promotions for back to school campaign um with radio radio urban one classic. Uh we'll do it back by popular demand for the July uh twelfth event and then um back to school campaign we'll have a fun filled program with kids um [0:51:31, 0:51:38]: Like carnival games, rides, end of summer fun, giveaway prizes. Um and this will take place on July twenty sixth. [0:51:39, 0:51:46]: Uh August seventeenth we'll start the radio promotion program for the grand finale to lead up to August thirtieth. [0:51:47, 0:52:01]: with um Urban Ones Magic Station DJ Ryan Cameron Cameron. He will promote on air that Tasty Tuesday is happening and the event will feature the Divine Nine and Panhellenic Council of Henry County. And that will be the grand finale on August thirtieth. [0:52:03, 0:52:10]: So the spins of the 14,000 will go towards uh radio packages, totaling ten thousand five hundred. [0:52:10, 0:52:23]: The spend on the rides and games is estimated to be around five thousand. Um DJ for eight additional Tuesdays is thirty two hundred and additional advertising like the billboards and flyer um printing. [0:52:24, 0:52:28]: and design makes up the total for the additional fourteen thousand. [0:52:29, 0:52:33]: Good. Thank you for the presentation. Appreciate that. Council, Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [0:52:35, 0:52:40]: Yeah, um thank you for coming to present it, Kim. What um [0:52:41, 0:53:01]: I'm trying to remember, Mayor, do you do you recall how many Tasty Tuesday events we had last year? Uh that we usually schedule? Well, last year because the last couple years, because of the pandemic, they've been slim to none. On a normal on a normal year, how many eighteen two thousand nineteen would be the last normal year without the before the pandemic. And so uh my understanding, and that obviously the council members here they [0:53:01, 0:53:10]: c uh clarify this so check it out. I started in uh in May, we went all the way to the end of July, I believe it was, in this aspect. So are we looking aro we did around twelve? [0:53:11, 0:53:16]: Twelve tasty too. We're talking about twelve for this year, and I think there was like sixteen or eighteen in the past. [0:53:18, 0:53:27]: So you're talking twelve this year, sixteen, eighteen past has the amount gone down that was budgeted for them?'Cause my understanding we we budget the same amount. [0:53:27, 0:53:31]: That we budgeted when we had more Tasy Two's events. [0:53:32, 0:53:41]: Well t in order to kick it back uh up after the pandemic shut us down, we wanted to r have a robust program. So we allocated more funds for more [0:53:41, 0:53:44]: Um e you know, excitement like the the jazz. [0:53:44, 0:53:52]: saxophone uh jazz musician on stage. So that cost a little bit more money than um just allocating for additional Tuesdays. [0:53:52, 0:54:05]: But but we're we're we're budgeting w with the budget we're having less tasty twos and um correct me, we're having less tasty twos events than but we still have the same budget. [0:54:05, 0:54:25]: And I re recall the Tasty Tuesday events having sponsors, they're having different other things, and and this city you is usually creative on how we uh because I've seen it packed out there on Tasty Tuesdays, uh, with the city promoting it, but to have to but to [0:54:25, 0:54:26]: Yeah. [0:54:28, 0:54:31]: To have less events and spending more [0:54:33, 0:54:37]: You sh you shaking your head, Mr. Garden. I'm I'm I'm I'm hearing two, three different things then. [0:54:38, 0:54:39]: No. [0:54:40, 0:54:50]: Excuse me, sir. So my understanding is, you know, originally when I think the c the calendar was sent, the calendar was sent to you guys back in December or November. [0:54:50, 0:54:53]: that illustrated the shortened schedule. However, [0:54:53, 0:54:59]: Yes, the funding was the same, but we'd actually um [0:55:00, 0:55:06]: move some of that funds to to work on the annexation project. [0:55:07, 0:55:21]: to promote and to avo the annexation project. So we move some funds out of there to help pay for the consultant to help us with the annexation stuff we're doing now. So that fund is l a little bit less and that's the reason why we're asking for Well you're saying something is new to me. [0:55:22, 0:55:40]: Yes, sir. That that we made a budget adjustment to pay to help pay for the consultant that's gonna be doing the But uh o okay, then at this point, so that's what how can I have a valid argument on something when I when new information is coming in at the point of my argument? So if there's some new information coming in that that talks about [0:55:41, 0:55:45]: the funding that's not there and the reason it's not there is not a time to do it. [0:55:45, 0:55:46]: Now for me [0:55:46, 0:55:50]: And I and I'm pretty sure to be fair to the whole council, how can we make an argument? [0:55:51, 0:56:05]: When funding's been moved, as you're saying, and now making an argument on how can we do it? Well, hence this is the reason why we're asking to use for the budget to use some of the fund balance to pay for the additional con the additional [0:56:05, 0:56:07]: Taste of Tuesday. [0:56:07, 0:56:11]: Because we had actually utilized some of those funds to help us with [0:56:12, 0:56:28]: the avocation or like I can't remember we can't say advocate, but the education of the annexation process. So that was b that that was done before we got a lot of the a lot of the feedback that we needed more Tasty Tuesdays. [0:56:29, 0:56:46]: What I'm saying is there's other areas of funding that need to be done we outside of that budget. That falls in line with what you are able to approve without moving that budget. Right. And if that budget's gonna be moved and there's gonna be a difference in how we do Tasty Tuesdays. [0:56:46, 0:57:06]: Then it's fair to this council to let us know what's going on because my argument is invalid because now I'm learning now what actually happened. Right. That's why I told everybody that knows I need to know everything before I get up here. Because one of the things I don't want to ever do is make a fool out of you. [0:57:06, 0:57:07]: Yes, sir. [0:57:08, 0:57:12]: And and and my apologies for snot putting that in the in the summary. [0:57:12, 0:57:19]: We we should have put that in there, my apologies. If there was if if there was money needed in other areas, you have the authority to do that. [0:57:20, 0:57:30]: And if that was money moved out of a budget that w this this council's I'm I'm I don't know if any other elected officials knew. I had no idea that we was having Chase Tuesday every other week. [0:57:30, 0:57:46]: When I got citizens asking me what happened, I have no idea. Well and we can't ever be put in a place well f well we have no idea. Well for clarity, it's my understanding that the actual schedule that we were operating under was actually given to council back in December. [0:57:47, 0:57:48]: I don't recall seeing the schedule. [0:57:48, 0:57:55]: The first of the first of the year, my understanding is that was sent to council. That actually illustrated the shortened schedule. [0:57:57, 0:58:00]: Апології спиз объясні. [0:58:00, 0:58:20]: Now that we're free and clear of COVID, we should have recognized the need to go back to the to 16, the level of 16, which obviously when we started hearing the complaints, that's now what we're trying to do is to add those additional concert series to the mix. And hence the request before you. But if money was moved out of fund balance. [0:58:20, 0:58:25]: That's under your purview to go ahead and replace whatever you need to place. You have the authority to do that. [0:58:25, 0:58:44]: Yeah, so so right now that's where the source to m to to pay for those additional is gonna come from because we'd move a portion of that to cover because you know, when the whole issue of annexation came up at the retreat there was how do we get this information out and educate citizens for the need to vo to vote. [0:58:44, 0:58:54]: either to get enough information to either vote for or against the annexation. And I said we'll we'll bring on some additional help to help us and I think some of you guys will work [0:58:54, 0:59:07]: or this person to been in contact with you guys to talk about the talking points and how we advocate to get citizens to vote yes on the annexation. So we move a little bit of those funds to do that. Yeah, but I get that. I appreciate that. What I'm saying is [0:59:07, 0:59:10]: is for this argument itself. [0:59:10, 0:59:13]: If that's on your privilege of replace that money. [0:59:13, 0:59:19]: It didn't have to come to council. If the council wishes to see the see the tasty twossies, just make it happen. [0:59:19, 0:59:39]: Understood, but be and obviously we understand that yes, that fift the fifteen is, but I think because it's coming from fund balance is the reason why it had to come to you. It's if we were moving it from a different account where we could have, yes, we would have been we would have done that. But because we're using fund balance, that's the reason why it's here before you. Had we found was able to find it somewhere else. [0:59:39, 0:59:48]: How much was it removed? [0:59:49, 0:59:51]: Um for the consultant. [0:59:52, 0:59:55]: How much we'll remove from the tasty toosy budget? [0:59:56, 0:59:56]: How much? [0:59:57, 0:59:59]: Do you remember off top of the hand was it like fourteen or fifteen grand? [1:00:00, 1:00:12]: Somewhere around the mount that we're asking for now, fourteen fifteen. So the money you're asking for is a replenishment. Yes. And there's nowhere else that's that don't need money that we could replenish it with without coming back to council? There's nowhere else? Well [1:00:12, 1:00:13]: Uh [1:00:14, 1:00:34]: Right. I'm saying there's nowhere else to move that money without having to come back and we waste time Not not not in the general fund that we see without, you know, going through a patchwork of of of of adjustments. It just made easy, clear cut just to move this small amount. [1:00:34, 1:00:38]: from the Fund Reserve to pay for this. [1:00:38, 1:00:48]: Uh uh and if my colleagues unless they have any question, if we just replenishing the money that was already taken out, I like the motion that we just replenish the money, the fourteen thousand. [1:00:50, 1:00:52]: He made a motion on the floor. Is there a second to the motion? [1:00:53, 1:01:08]: I have a question. All right, question question, sir. So as uh going along the line of those being uh twelve, uh is it because we're starting late? I thought we were talking about going on a weekly basis to get to that number, uh maybe about sixteen. [1:01:10, 1:01:26]: W is it we're not increasing the frequency, we just increasing the length. We're we're includ adding additional Well eight additional dates to the four that we had planned. So there's there's two in May and then two in June. Right, but but the desire I thought was to have them weekly. [1:01:26, 1:01:37]: Yeah, that's my assumption. Well that's my understanding that this this money increase would would would give us more taste. It's gonna give us more, but is it gonna give us one every week? [1:01:37, 1:01:51]: It will in July well, July twelfth will be the first one to start up again because of the July fourth extravaganza on the fourth, which is Monday. So we're not gonna have one on Tuesday because it's so close to what we're doing on Monday. So we'll continue on the twelfth. [1:01:51, 1:02:11]: Um all the dates in July and then all the dates in August. So what about June? So June yeah, we have the seventh and the fourteenth date scheduled. That's not all the Tuesdays. No, no, sir. Yeah, but she's saying all the Tuesdays can't start in July because I did say it would have to be a little bit more. No, we're going to do that. [1:02:11, 1:02:15]: June. Right. What about June though? June wh why can't you do all the Tuesdays in June? [1:02:16, 1:02:19]: Well the June twenty first has been um [1:02:19, 1:02:22]: like held for a councilman initiative. [1:02:22, 1:02:23]: Which is a [1:02:23, 1:02:25]: Well, as far as okay. [1:02:25, 1:02:29]: So it would con conflict with the Not necessarily. You've got two different crowds. [1:02:30, 1:02:31]: It's it's two different crowds. [1:02:32, 1:02:33]: Mayor Ford, if I may. [1:02:34, 1:02:34]: Yeah, go ahead, sir. [1:02:35, 1:02:51]: June twenty first is the sipping C. Um, I don't I don't think we should schedule anything that's going to conflict with with Taste Tucy or SIP and C. Um when I had the discussion with Mrs. uh Jordan um [1:02:52, 1:03:12]: That date was a good day. And the reason I chose the day because I looked at the calendar. And Mr. Gardner, you are correct. Uh we did approve the calendar in January, and I noticed that that date was free. And that was the date that I I planned for the sippancy. But now to come back and bring competition. [1:03:12, 1:03:15]: With that, I I I'm gonna feel a little [1:03:15, 1:03:17]: Look bad about that. Um [1:03:18, 1:03:19]: And and I don't think [1:03:20, 1:03:30]: not doing taste to choose on June twenty first is not going to hamper uh having taste to choose on the other Tuesdays. Missing that particular Tuesday? [1:03:30, 1:03:41]: I I don't think it's a big deal because I would like to get that crowd over into the amphitheater for uh what we're trying to do with uh showcasing the upcoming calendar and to see the amphitheater. [1:03:41, 1:03:44]: So the whole emphasis is to bring [1:03:44, 1:03:49]: That crowd that's that's accustomed to coming out on Tuesday to bring them over to the amphitheater. [1:03:50, 1:04:10]: I would tell I would tell you, I I I appreciate that. I disagree with that though because a Tasty Tuesday brings all types of families. They're families with grand small kids that to play the playground. They're not gonna come to sip and see but because of they got little kids. I mean I think you can do both. We always talk about we can do multiple things at the same time. That's my thoughts on it. It's up to the council, but I would think you can do both. [1:04:10, 1:04:12]: I don't think it'll conflict because there are two different types of crowds. [1:04:13, 1:04:18]: Well I would just like to go and recommend to be to to be against that. Okay. So be it. [1:04:21, 1:04:26]: So so but what about the okay, you've got other Tuesdays in in June as well. [1:04:27, 1:04:43]: We had planned to do the um the food trucks at the Sip and C in at the amphitheater parking lot. So that was what we had planned to do to kind of compromise for both events and not share or compete with the different um audiences, combine the audiences. [1:04:44, 1:04:51]: Well I uh let me let me try to go go go ahead, sir. Please let me jump in on that. So you you [1:04:52, 1:04:54]: Uh Ms. Garner. [1:04:55, 1:04:57]: We have to be careful and cautious. [1:04:57, 1:05:01]: When we're missing city events with council initiatives. [1:05:01, 1:05:03]: Because when you set that precedence [1:05:03, 1:05:06]: It's gonna have to be a here to each if each and everybody up here. [1:05:08, 1:05:11]: So you have to be careful and cautious that you're moving [1:05:12, 1:05:18]: uh the tasty Tuesdays from the park to the amphitheater to join a council initiative. [1:05:19, 1:05:26]: I'm not gonna fight against that, but when you set that precedence, you gotta adhere to it for every council member up here and the mayor. [1:05:27, 1:05:31]: So we have to be careful and cautious if we happen it at the Clark Park. [1:05:31, 1:05:37]: We have to be careful when we jump in tasty twos around. But if you have it at the amphitheater, [1:05:38, 1:05:41]: You're opening and setting a precedence for every council member up here. [1:05:42, 1:05:45]: And if you come against that, it's gonna be issues. [1:05:46, 1:05:47]: From this council. [1:05:48, 1:05:55]: May Mayor Ford, Ms. Garden, if I'm Mayor Ford. Go ahead, please. Again. [1:05:56, 1:05:57]: In January. [1:05:58, 1:06:00]: When the council approved [1:06:01, 1:06:04]: The tasty choosy calendar. [1:06:05, 1:06:07]: This date was available. [1:06:08, 1:06:09]: But now [1:06:10, 1:06:12]: And this is not a taste too to event. [1:06:13, 1:06:18]: But now you wanna come and add a taste of Tuesday. [1:06:19, 1:06:20]: Two schedule. [1:06:22, 1:06:23]: When it was not planned. [1:06:24, 1:06:26]: Disrespectin. [1:06:27, 1:06:29]: Disrespectin [1:06:31, 1:06:35]: The initiative that was planned on this day. [1:06:35, 1:06:37]: Why would anybody do that? [1:06:38, 1:06:41]: It's not like we're knocking a scheduled [1:06:41, 1:06:43]: Taste the Tuesday off the calendar. [1:06:45, 1:06:47]: This is why this date was chosen. [1:06:48, 1:06:52]: Because there was no schedule on this particular Tuesday. [1:06:53, 1:06:55]: So let's not get confused with this. [1:06:57, 1:07:09]: Go ahead, sir. All right. Um mayor council members, um here I guess you guys could probably see this. I don't know if you can see it on the monitor. Yeah, go ahead, please. I should see it. So right now [1:07:10, 1:07:13]: The month of June we're scheduled to do the the seven and the fourteenth. [1:07:14, 1:07:23]: Mr uh uh c Maypo Tam Co uh Thomas event is on the twenty first, correct? So we'll do the seventh, fourteenth, twenty-eighth. [1:07:27, 1:07:33]: Then in July, because of a huge event we haven't on the fourth, we'll miss that date, but we'll do the twelfth. [1:07:34, 1:07:35]: The twelfth, nineteenth. [1:07:35, 1:07:38]: And sixteen. Twenty six. Twenty six, excuse me. [1:07:38, 1:07:40]: And then in the month of August we're doing the second [1:07:42, 1:07:45]: Ninth, sixteenth, twenty third, and thirtieth. [1:07:46, 1:07:59]: Is that a good and then next year we'll we'll proceed in earnest with every Tuesday as long as it doesn't compete with any pre existing council initiatives. If that's if there is a council we'll we'll hit those dates. [1:07:59, 1:08:04]: So how many additional dates did that make if you do it that way? That would be nine. Nine. Okay. [1:08:05, 1:08:08]: We'll make it happen. And we have taste taste twos going on right now, is that correct? [1:08:10, 1:08:14]: Well it would be June seventh. No no tonight, tonight. Is it going on right now? No. [1:08:16, 1:08:17]: It didn't go on last week, did it? [1:08:17, 1:08:24]: No, we're we're oh no, we're doing if we once we get the budget amendment approved, we'll make it happen for these dates that I just called out. [1:08:24, 1:08:32]: Okay. If that's the wish account. So it can't go back and change. But we could we could make the improvements for the rest of this summer and then next summer. [1:08:33, 1:08:39]: God forbid we don't hit any marks in the pana pandemic that causes us right not to be able to gather again. [1:08:39, 1:08:51]: And if we're able to, we'll make sure that we one, we're gonna budget for all the Tuesdays and we're gonna have the Tuesdays covered. All right. So is there a motion for the uh additional tastes to the budget amendment here? Uh [1:08:52, 1:08:53]: Okay. [1:08:54, 1:09:14]: I'm sorry? What was my motion to fund the funding? My motion was approved or funding that I didn't fix it for any date. It was to approve the uh fourteen thousand dollars funding that they have a lot of things. All right, so is it was that motion? [1:09:14, 1:09:23]: Second was that motion second? No, it wasn't seconded. Wasn't it was not seconded. [1:09:23, 1:09:24]: But sir. [1:09:25, 1:09:45]: Yes, go ahead, please. Okay. Uh since there was no second, let's just go ahead and uh I make a motion to take the recommendation of the city manager to have weekly Tasty Tuesday uh events excluding the twenty-first, which is the taste and sip event, uh Councilman Thomas is, and then beginning next year we will have Tasty Tuesday. [1:09:45, 1:09:50]: Tuesdays weekly uh on Tuesday as prescribed and recommended by the city manager. [1:09:50, 1:10:00]: So m uh second. Okay. Ms. Barber Sexton, that motion. Yes, sir. And and we'll provide a updated schedule for everybody as well as update the schedule on social media for everyone. [1:10:00, 1:10:05]: Okay. Any fur any further conversation? If not, all in favor of the motion please indicate. [1:10:06, 1:10:20]: Okay, you pass it unanimously. Fantastic. Thank you, Kim. Thank you. Okay. Uh let's see here. Council consideration to approve an increase in the annual on-call sidewalk repairs and replacement contract with DAF Concrete Incorporated. [1:10:20, 1:10:40]: From$150,000 to$350,000 to complete sidewalk repairs in Monarch Village and Wingsong Subdivision. Funding source splots five, Mr. Aaron, please. Good evening again, Mr. Mayor and Council. We come before you tonight in FY 2022, we budgeted$150,000 for sidewalk repair and maintenance. [1:10:40, 1:10:57]: And we identified three subdivisions that we would be working in. And these projects were identified from the 2019 site, Walking Street assessment we had conducted by Carter and Sloop, one of our engineering firms. And with the cost of materials and supplies and [1:10:57, 1:11:06]: things have been more involved than we anticipated. So we budgeted a hundred and fifty one thousand'cause we didn't want to impact the general fund budget heavily. [1:11:07, 1:11:15]: And uh John Wiggins, the city treasurer, has informed us that we have money available in SPLOS five that we set aside for roads, trails, and sidewalks. [1:11:16, 1:11:20]: So we've started in Monarch Village and we need the [1:11:21, 1:11:27]: We wanna go ahead and finish that project and then go into Winsong and finish that project as well. We don't wanna start in a [1:11:28, 1:11:34]: And do part of it and then come back since this is a safety issue, we wanna go ahead and finish both of these projects. [1:11:35, 1:11:55]: All right, on that on that note, sir, I and I want the council to understand this and and the listening audience that uh th they they did an outstanding job in Monarch Village, but Monarch Village is a very s it's a single largest community in Stockbridge and it has l more sidewalks than they work and I'm telling you that the citizens inside there are looking forward to that. They did an outstanding job and the sidewalk was great. So that's what I'm [1:11:55, 1:12:06]: wanna bring it forward to the council in its aspect uh as I talked to Mr. Aaron about this because uh we need it we need to continue on with the mission and complete it out. Thank you. Mr Bloom I believe you want something to say. [1:12:06, 1:12:26]: Mr. Aaron, on those uh in in actually in my community wins on do you have a list of those sidewalks that you guys have identified to repair? It was in the council packet. If you don't have it, then I can it was in the uh your packet, it should be the sidewalks. If not, I'll forward it to you. Okay. Okay. [1:12:26, 1:12:36]: Um it's included. Well on the on the L Meg list that we had and we had the sidewalks and the um [1:12:37, 1:12:57]: Sidewalks and the streets identified. And I and I know we're not in I know Forrest Winsong is not in this L Meg list nor next this year or next year because you guys just did some other stuff and I think the updated one we're not in it. But I definitely I'm glad to hear that Winsong is in the sidewalks, uh sidewalks for uh for repairs and this. [1:12:57, 1:12:59]: Yeah, so so my motion is to approve it. [1:13:00, 1:13:05]: So you made a motion. I'm sorry. Comment? Yes, yes, sir. Go ahead, please. [1:13:05, 1:13:09]: Uh Miss Aaron, s w what what [1:13:10, 1:13:24]: What is or have you done the analysis? And I know we sort of talked about this for a while, but the analysis and the conditions of all sidewalks citywide, is is there an an an analysis? [1:13:25, 1:13:28]: Of the condition of other streets, other communities. [1:13:29, 1:13:32]: Yes, sir. In two thousand and nineteen we had a [1:13:32, 1:13:52]: a new assessment of all the roads and sidewalks within the city of Stop Rid. And that's what we're using just like we use for LMEG, the guide, the list that's generated. So that assessment was used to identify the sidewalks that needed to be repaired. And that's the model that we're following just like we do with LMEG is based on the rankings of the sidewalk. [1:13:52, 1:13:56]: walls, that's how we identify the ones to be repaired. [1:13:56, 1:14:08]: So in your estimation or your analysis, the sidewalks in these two communities, Monarch Village and um [1:14:10, 1:14:30]: Winsong. The plantation. So these are priorities. It was as opposed to other communities. Yes, sir. We we based on the ratings. The summit at Eagles Landing was one of them. The summit at Eagles Landing, it was Monarch Village, and then it was Windsong. So that was the list for this year. Next year we'll [1:14:30, 1:14:37]: have another list. We'll keep going down the list until we make repairs to all of these sidewalks or have another assessment conducted. [1:14:37, 1:14:38]: Thank you. [1:14:38, 1:14:41]: Uh go ahead, please, sir. Mr Gardner, can you come to the podium? [1:14:47, 1:15:07]: Now, understanding that we're talking about sidewalk repairs, and certainly I want to make sure the sidewalk repairs, and I think Mayor Pro Tem has a valid problem. We want uh um uh assessment in that we Mr. Aaron explained it correctly, and that we're following the LMIG process and that those determinations were made. [1:15:07, 1:15:24]: made about the sidewalks. Now, we have a million and a half dollars that we bond for trails. What is going on? Well that would be an addition, these sidewalks have been fixed, but we bonded a million and a half dollars for trails some time ago. So when is that gonna move? [1:15:25, 1:15:30]: We bonded a mi right million dollars in this floss. When are we gonna move forward with that? [1:15:31, 1:15:45]: We're we're in the process of of gathering that information and putting together which ones we are prioritizing those projects. Currently, right now, our engineers, on call engineers are out for bid. That bid closes on June nineteenth. [1:15:46, 1:16:03]: because they have no more renewals on their services. So until the new engineers are selected, because we don't want to have projects assigned to engineers if they're not going to be the ones that we're moving forward with. So this month in June, we'll identify the new [1:16:03, 1:16:23]: uh on call engineer and then we'll task them with performing these. We have also started we've hired our assistant public works director and one of the things he's been tasked with, he has experience in T Splots is identifying the T-SPLOST projects. So because we know with the trails and the T-SPLOST project there's gonna be some acquisitions involved. There's gonna [1:16:23, 1:16:43]: be some design involved. So we want to go ahead and start planning to get those acquisitions. So we're not trying to design and develop a project and we still got easements and properties to acquire. So it is on the list. We're working our way through it. But like I said, until we have our engineers on board that we [1:16:43, 1:16:45]: We know we're gonna be designing and and [1:16:46, 1:17:06]: Preparing these projects for us, that's what we're waiting on the new engineering firm to be selected. [1:17:06, 1:17:26]: mind where all of our T-Splos projects and splotch projects are moving down the tracks so that we can establish this trail network that we've been planning on doing for quite some time, working with the Power Foundation and working with any other local partners who want to work with us because we we have [1:17:25, 1:17:45]: The funding going, but I want to make sure that we have a solid plan to get this off the ground because this council wants to move forward with that because we already charged TSW with the Master Parks plan, which will connect the trails. Because, like right now, we go out of the amphitheater, we're not really connecting to a lot and connecting. [1:17:45, 1:17:52]: So where is what when will you be able to come back to us and say that? [1:17:52, 1:17:58]: with this engineer and we're gonna be able to move this train down the track on these projects. [1:18:00, 1:18:20]: Well, sir, I until we get an engineer on board. Like I said, we d I didn't feel comfortable. The bid closes on in June, the third week in June. Once those bids are received, then we'll go by scoring and ranking those. So hopefully by August we'll be bringing some [1:18:20, 1:18:27]: something to council to approve these engineering firms. And once the engineering engineering firms are selected, then we can move forward. [1:18:27, 1:18:30]: Вит авандинем the project of [1:18:30, 1:18:32]: Preparing those designs. [1:18:33, 1:18:36]: Obtaining acquisitions and easements that are needed for these projects. [1:18:37, 1:18:41]: And then we'll the product will move, we just gotta have the engineers selected. [1:18:42, 1:18:58]: Okay, well the it closes in June. So you're so you're looking at you're looking at at least if if we don't have areas well first, you know, I think it's just our lane, once we have that consultant on but that engineering firm on board [1:18:58, 1:19:18]: This will be a priority project for them to move in earnest on our splot on our T plus projects, which includes the trail system. And hopefully we'll be able to look at and identify those trail systems that will acquire the least amount of easements, but give us the best bank for our buck. We'll be bringing that to you guys saying here's where we're going to be starting with construction and the reasons why. [1:19:18, 1:19:38]: is because this is the lease acquisition because as you know, if someone don't want to give a blind, you got to go through that arbitration process. That takes time. But if we can look at the least amount where we have existing right-of-ways to move on, those would be the areas that I think that they should move on to get the project moving in earnest. But it's a priority for us. We're moving forward on it. [1:19:38, 1:19:55]: it and yes, Henry County those are able to move. They got a whole department with about 80 people in it. Um but we'll be moving in earnest on this project. And as you know, we've reached out to the PATH Foundation and had discussions with them. But the key for us is also looking at [1:19:56, 1:20:16]: How, and this is the same issue we had in my prior job with the East Point Path, is leveraging some of our SPLOSS money for some of the other monies out there to continue the process moving in earnest. And so it's gonna be a collaborative effort, not between just the consultant we bring on board, but Mr. Deshes as well as Kelly and the grants department. [1:20:16, 1:20:32]: To find out exactly, hey, how how much of this money can be leveraged to get even more length on the on the trail system? And I know the possible tell folks with parcel tell you that's one of the best ways to make things moving until we get more infrastructure. I will say [1:20:33, 1:20:42]: And this is something that we're gonna be looking at. As you know, the bipartisan infrastructure bill passed back in January. Um, that's uh [1:20:42, 1:20:43]: It's about [1:20:44, 1:20:56]: 70 or 80 mit billion dollars of transportation projects. Uh and so we'll be going after our allotted share um of projects to make sure to happen, but especially we got them engineered. [1:20:57, 1:21:17]: As you know the old terminology from two thousand ten, shovel ready. As long as we can show that these things are good and ready, shovel ready to go after, we're gonna be going after some of that infrastructure money out there as well.'Cause it's all transportation related and I will tell you that's one of the things I was looking at for the Cultural Arts Center to see whether or not that would qualify under the [1:21:17, 1:21:19]: under the infrastructure bill. [1:21:20, 1:21:27]: I'm still looking at it. Um there's a potential out, but we'll bring that to you guys once we make sure that it it it [1:21:28, 1:21:44]: I feel sound that that we can use potential infrastructure money and not get challenged. All right. Let's get on back on track. We had a motion to accept uh uh go forward to additional funding for the uh sidewalk repair. Is there a second to that motion? [1:21:44, 1:21:47]: Second. Okay, Mr. I was asked second. Any further discussion? [1:21:47, 1:21:49]: All in favor of motion, please indicate. [1:21:50, 1:21:53]: Synam's decision. Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. Darren. [1:21:54, 1:22:14]: Appreciate that. Thank you, Mayor and Council. Okay. Uh now before Mr. Aaron, I'm sorry, I'm gonna make a I'm gonna make a suggestion here. I've been no I've been uh informed that we have a gentleman here that is part of the uh item number thirteen. The suggestion is that uh the council will approve this. We'd like to move that uh up to hear this gentleman out along with uh Mr. Our Chief Trammer. [1:22:14, 1:22:27]: to talk about that. So move. So well I can't I can't really make a motion in this aspect on belief. So move. Okay. Is there a second? Second. [1:22:27, 1:22:28]: Susanna? [1:22:28, 1:22:31]: Oh Mr Blount, second then. Okay. All in favor please indicate. [1:22:32, 1:22:33]: All opposed? [1:22:35, 1:22:37]: Y you you you oppose or you sustain? [1:22:38, 1:22:58]: Oh, you approve? Okay, all four of you, all four. It's unanimous decision. Okay, on that note, we'll move to this council consideration to approve the Stockbridge Police Department use of automated speed detection devices within Mark's school zones inside the city limit of Stockbridge and enter into agreement with the Red Speed USA implemented school safety zone program. Mr. Tremor, you please. And the gentleman [1:22:58, 1:22:58]: that you have with you. [1:23:01, 1:23:21]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Uh with me this evening is Mr. Greg Parks. Uh he's one of the senior vice presidents with Red Speed. We spoke about this when Council approved the uh speed detection uh permit back on April twenty-sixth, and we had mentioned that we'd be bringing this for before you. Um Mr. Parks has a uh [1:23:21, 1:23:31]: uh very brief presentation regarding the implementation of school safety cameras within the school zones within the city of Stockbridge and wanna [1:23:32, 1:23:34]: See if I can pull this up on here. [1:23:53, 1:23:55]: Solidity, do you know if that presentation was [1:23:57, 1:23:59]: Loaded on the computer. [1:24:01, 1:24:01]: I'm sorry. [1:24:08, 1:24:14]: Council, do you have the presentation in your documents? Red speed? Yeah, we we have it here. Okay. [1:24:16, 1:24:16]: Uh uh. [1:24:24, 1:24:26]: Number thirteen. [1:24:29, 1:24:30]: Yes, we [1:24:55, 1:24:55]: Ha ha ha. [1:24:57, 1:25:12]: Where? Oh here it comes. All right. You can put each one of these here and it'll project up there. We won't we don't have it eroded to let'em project up there. Turn that on. Mm-hmm. Turn that on. Okay? All right, thank you. [1:25:17, 1:25:18]: That's cool. [1:25:18, 1:25:21]: There we go. [1:25:30, 1:25:31]: So it takes a minute to pull it. [1:25:41, 1:25:41]: There we go. [1:25:44, 1:25:48]: Yeah. Yeah. Just a little bit off to the side. Yeah. [1:25:50, 1:26:07]: All right. Mr. Parks. Okay. Thank you, Chief. Thank you, Mayor and Council. Appreciate your time this evening. Very short presentation. That I'll be available to answer what I'm sure some questions you'll have that if you approve this, how logistics, et cetera. So um I think we've got this figured out now. So [1:26:08, 1:26:10]: The s the solution that we're [1:26:11, 1:26:31]: That we're proposing. Anyway, the main benefit is safety. Uh Hittry County's had a program for over two years. Uh violations are down 80% in the school zones since implementation. Uh only ten percent of uh motorists are getting a second citation when they receive the first one. So uh at something that's no out of pocket. [1:26:31, 1:26:33]: [5193.5, 5213.5]: And with provides lots of other benefits. No no one, especially a new department, has enough staff to sit in school zones every school day. There's no cost to you all. It's entirely or to the taxpayers, entirely violator funded. Only the small percentage of citizens that violate the law are gonna fund this instead of spreading it across the city. [1:26:53, 1:27:00]: and counties statewide. And I know something that's been of benef or of interest and benefit to your police department as a new department. [1:27:00, 1:27:20]: There's huge expense and need and equipment ramp up. And this comes at no cost again to you all with state-of-the-art video that can provide them the ability to live view the school zone at any time if there's an incident. And also with 24-7 archive video for 45 days. There's an incident with a student. [1:27:20, 1:27:24]: There's a crash, etc. And then uh [1:27:24, 1:27:35]: a solution called Flocky LPR, which is a very useful uh in the county and other places, comes at no cost to you all. So that'd be probably a hundred thousand dollars worth of equipment to procure. [1:27:36, 1:27:39]: In addition to the speed mitigation benefits that you'll receive. [1:27:42, 1:27:52]: Um why a program like this? Why has the chief brought this forward for your consideration and why are about fifty other departments, including many in this area, using it? [1:27:53, 1:28:08]: There was a study conducted two years ago and Georgia ranked thirty-six out of fifty-one. That's fifty states plus Puerto Rico in school zone safety. Uh the traffic down here, as you all know, you live here, and it's because people want to be here, they're moving here, but your traffic [1:28:08, 1:28:14]: is very heavy and there's definitely a speeding problem which I'll get to that this can help solve. [1:28:17, 1:28:29]: So because Georgia did rank so low, thirty-sixth set out of fifty-one of this, in tw in twenty eighteen, the legislature passed House Bill nine seventy-eight to allow cities, counties, police departments. [1:28:30, 1:28:32]: То гава тул та комбатис. [1:28:33, 1:28:34]: Some of the highlights of the law [1:28:35, 1:28:55]: Uh it's very conservative law. Only enforcement is done during day schools in session, only during school hours. So the other equipment I talked about, the Flocky LPR, the high dev video was 24-7-365. But a motorist can only be cited for speeding during the day schools in session during a [1:28:55, 1:28:59]: school day and only t at least ten miles per hour over the posted limit. [1:28:59, 1:29:11]: A police officer could cite a citizen at one if he chose to in a school zone. Ten. So in a twenty-five, it's thirty-five, forty percent over the limit during these very shortened hours. It's very conservative. [1:29:13, 1:29:33]: All of these must be approved by GDOT for a safety need. So there's if there's tri levels of approval of this, which puts a lot of belt and suspenders, checks and balances, whatever term you want to use, that you all need to approve it, that you want it for your citizens and police department. The school system will need to concur that there's a need, and the superintendent, she would need to sign. [1:29:33, 1:29:38]: the application and then G DOT, the local district office, also must concur. [1:29:38, 1:29:41]: that there's a need. So you have three bodies. [1:29:41, 1:29:43]: Во символ інтерст. [1:29:44, 1:29:47]: А провів нас, со видикта'сбері, кадрос на лав. [1:29:48, 1:29:54]: There's no points or driver's license uh ramifications, insurance ramifications. It's a civil violation. [1:29:54, 1:30:01]: And it's a seventy-five dollar fine, which is about a fourth of the fine of an officer written ticket. [1:30:01, 1:30:02]: And [1:30:03, 1:30:23]: Not or the fines are used or earmarked by law, which is again pretty fortuitous in your unique situation. That they don't go to your general fund, they go to the police department for use in equipment, other things. The exact wording in the law is local law enforcement or public safety initiatives, and would refer to your attorney for that. But it's the idea with the legislature of parliament. [1:30:23, 1:30:32]: Partly for citizen acceptance, too. It's not a fine going into a black hole or tax. It's going to help law enforcement, funded by the people that are breaking the law. [1:30:34, 1:30:49]: So in order to determine there is a spe a s a need, safety need, like I mentioned for G DOT to approve this. I've got I've got a question for you right now. Just real quick on that part where you talked about defines. Yes, sir. [1:30:50, 1:31:09]: Are the fines coming from monitoring or is it coming from is coming from after those have been monitored? Is it is is it is it some alert it gives, it gives and then the then our police department monitors it? Yeah. I think order the process of how a citation is issued and how that fine revenue is generated. Is that the gist of it? [1:31:09, 1:31:16]: Yeah, yeah, because y y you you just said something that was interesting how it it it's lower than the find that would come from the police department. [1:31:17, 1:31:30]: Yeah, w because for a moving violation, seventy-five dollars is set in Title forty by law for this. So an automated ticket is seventy-five dollars, whether you're ten over, eleven over, twenty over. That's statutory. So so [1:31:30, 1:31:50]: At the end, I don't know how you would do it, Chief, but at you saying at the end of the day when they review those tapes, is uh is it like a license plate reader on there or something like that? Like it's like going through a light and it takes your picture. Yeah, let me give like a a one minute quick overview of the process. Uh and I think that will answer your question all straight away. So we we go through these approvals for Fortune F you approval. [1:31:50, 1:32:08]: it GDOT approves it, we get the permits, we install them. There's also by law a 30-day warning period required, which I'm gonna get to your direct question, but there's got to so everybody that exceeds the speed limit will get a notice in the mail. In 30 days, you're gonna get a ticket. So slow down. I'll talk about some more of that later. So then once the cameras are live [1:32:09, 1:32:13]: Motorist goes through at an alleged speed of forty and a twenty-five. [1:32:13, 1:32:16]: Camera captures it with a license plate reader, as you said. [1:32:17, 1:32:27]: We get the license plate, it's a registered owner violation, because it's civil. So we get the owner through inlets, which is the same agency that the police department gets their information from. [1:32:27, 1:32:47]: We have two humans review it at our headquarters that yes, school was in session that day. Uh yes, it was at least ten over the speed limit. Uh yes, the if the inlets return says it was a white Tahoe, that is white Tahoe, that the license plate is accurately red. Two humans do that. Then they go to your police department and an officer [1:32:47, 1:33:05]: sits down and he or she does what I just described and they have final approval whether to approve or reject that violation. Those they reject, they hit red. Those they approve hit green and then at our expense we mail it uh to the motorist. So yes, did that answer your question is the process? [1:33:05, 1:33:18]: Yeah, and I'm and I figure that's the way the process will go. But you just like even when I go to Florida, you go down through the turnpike at Reacher it it sends you your well, how much you owe for going through the tow. Yeah, and this is a similar similar process. [1:33:18, 1:33:29]: Um so but and the ticketing goes to the owner, not necessarily the person that that not necessarily the defendant. Right. There's that's and that's why there's no points or insurance. Someone for the parking citation. [1:33:30, 1:33:31]: Okay, yeah. [1:33:31, 1:33:33]: Okay, continue on sir. Yes, sir. [1:33:34, 1:33:54]: So again, I talked about GDOT needing to approve this for a safety need. And also you all see in there's a need if you decide to approve it, and why you're endorsing or authorizing the police department to operate this. So we conducted speed studies at the police department's request, the stockbridge stockbridge area schools, and the results were somewhat. [1:33:53, 1:33:59]: surprising, although we there's this heavy level of speeding all throughout Metro Atlanta right now. [1:33:59, 1:34:07]: In a in a one one school day, nine hour period from uh which kids would be at school, ten miles over or greater. [1:34:08, 1:34:13]: Stockbridge Elementary had nine hundred and ninety-six violations in one day. [1:34:13, 1:34:33]: Which is a really big number in this. And uh Eagles Landing had 503, and Red Oak had 484. So all of these we believe will easily meet the GDOT definition of needing a safety tool. So the process would be: if you all authorize moving forward, we will all at our expense commit to drawings. [1:34:33, 1:34:48]: for GDOT, submit a GDOT permit application to them. Once a prod approval, we'd commence construction at our expense, get everything installed, train the police department, and ideally be ready for school to start first week of August, whatever it is. But there's definitely a safety need. [1:34:51, 1:35:00]: So how the process works, we t we touched on that a little bit now, but said a couple of times, there's no cost to you all at all. It's all violator funded. [1:35:00, 1:35:08]: The term that the IECP uses, which is kind of the gold standard of policing, International Association Chiefs of Police, it's a force multiplier. [1:35:08, 1:35:26]: No department from the biggest to the smallest has enough folks to sit in the school zones. And even if you do write one ticket, 10 more will go by while you're doing it. So having this technology allows your new police department to more quickly respond to other calls that your citizens are going to need, do other needed responsibilities. So it's a force multiplier. [1:35:27, 1:35:29]: We handle all maintenance uh [1:35:30, 1:35:50]: operating the only thing your police department to do is the officer is a is issuing the citation. We mail it, but it's his or her signature on it, not us. And it's a very simple, it's kind of Southwest Airlines business model. You guys get 65% of the revenue collected. We get 35% in exchange for maintaining, installing, owning all the equipment. [1:35:50, 1:35:59]: the mailing, collecting, etcetera. And that's the same contract signed by Henry County, McDonough, uh Jonesboro, a number of other area agencies. [1:36:01, 1:36:12]: One thing really important to do in this, I mentioned there's a thirty day warning period. Certainly as elected officials, I know you understand this, as a company out in the public business, public education and awareness is really important. [1:36:12, 1:36:20]: And we need to own the message because it is the right thing to do. I have a biased agenda, but it's the right thing to do to slow people. There's 996 speeders. [1:36:20, 1:36:40]: It's the right thing to do to try and slow them down. So there's the 30-day warning period. Signs are mandatory by GDOT. About 500 feet in front of the camera, it'll say slow down, uh, photo enforcement ahead. Also, at our expense, we'll work with a PIO or city communication staff, who's ever appropriate here. We can design [1:36:40, 1:36:43]: [5803.7, 5808.3]: That you could put on your cable channel if you have one. You could send them to the schools. [1:36:48, 1:37:08]: We'll work with you and design print a material to send home with the kids that you can use for meetings if you meet regularly with constituents, et cetera. But again, lots of different things. Great great content for your website, if you have some social media platforms, if you have Facebook or Twitter. Uh Henry County's done a really good job on this. We've got some good examples of things that worked here, but anyway. [1:37:08, 1:37:16]: I kind of went over that, but there's a real extensive public education awareness program in conjunction with the 30-day warning period. [1:37:18, 1:37:38]: Very briefly about Red Speed. We've been around since the 90s. We're our Georgia headquarters in Roswell, fully staffed, so we're not real far away. Right now that takes a little drive to get down here from Roswell. But um we've got over 50 customers in Georgia, as I said, including uh Henry County and McDonough, Clayton. [1:37:38, 1:37:54]: County, Jonesboro, Riverdale, number of area departments that in addition to, I think, hopefully given a comfort level that the police are recommending a good vendor and partner here, that there's some good information sharing capabilities with the ALPR and the video. [1:37:54, 1:38:00]: With other interoperability is kind of the term of the day. And so your police department with MOUs could share. [1:38:00, 1:38:05]: information with other area departments, the county, McDonough, et cetera. [1:38:07, 1:38:27]: So in conclusion, you're you'll definitely get safer school zones. I said eighty percent reduction. You know, we're thrilled with those results. Again, no out-of-pocket expense. Your police will get all that other great technology in addition to the speed mitigation. And again, what I just talked about a little out of order, I guess, but the ability to share with uh neighboring departments. [1:38:27, 1:38:29]: [5910.3, 5930.3]: So I'm sure there's some questions. Thank you for you to do. Appreciate that. Anybody down here? You've got Ms. Alzheimer's? Go ahead, please. Yeah, certainly I'm uh in support of slowing this down, especially here at Stockbridge Elementary School, where the literally the crossing guard is really a brisk, severe risk of injury. [1:38:50, 1:39:10]: injury or death out there because it's it's it's it's health to skill. A smaller town than you all called Thomaston South, the sch school guard was hit, and that's what prompted that program, but yes. And you've identified that there's a thirty day uh warning period where each person will be uh informed of it. [1:39:10, 1:39:22]: Yeah, just like a citation but says warning, please slow down, effective this date, it would be a seventy five dollar fine. [1:39:22, 1:39:42]: Okay. And then uh what's the how like you said, it goes to the officer it goes to the actual officer to make sure school is in that day'cause some of the times like I was going by the thing today it was blinking but school was and that the flashers were working and that it was above the posted limit. Yeah, all all the statutory things to make it a a a good citation. [1:39:42, 1:40:00]: And they have 100% control. We often get the question, because we get a cut of it and we have all these expenses, do we try and press them to approve so much? Integrity of the program is foremost. So it's complete discretion of the police department whether to approve or reject the citation. And then his or her signature would go on it, yes. [1:40:01, 1:40:10]: Well it's clear c it should be pretty clear cut if somebody was fifteen miles over the speed. There's compelling video evidence and that's why so few are contested. All right, thank you. [1:40:10, 1:40:12]: Go ahead, Ms. Plant. [1:40:13, 1:40:33]: Uh thank you for the presentation. I'm I'm I'm very much for that. Um I've had a couple of well, one friend for sure that uh almost was a crossing guard almost got hit. Uh my concern is that well m one of my concerns, I'm not c worried about it, is that I'm I'm looking at the thirty days. So the the thirty day [1:40:33, 1:40:39]: slips or however it would come to the city that we can verify that it has gone out to the [1:40:40, 1:41:00]: Um going out to the public that they have been warned and we get them 30 days. And the reason I'm asking this is because just with the city of Stop, the Stockbridge Elementary alone, with the numbers you gave, that's$74,700 in one day, and you guys would get$26,145 of that at$35%. [1:41:00, 1:41:20]: I just want to make sure that we're doing our part and really letting the community know you do this, this is what's gonna happen, and giving them enough time to do it because it this uh you know it's because we don't you guys are doing the maintenance, whatever, but the numbers you've given me shows that. [1:41:19, 1:41:39]: Oh it's gonna it's one of those situations is gonna pay for itself. Oh yeah, absolutely. Now that'll go down about eighty percent as I said. But that's the that's the why we do it. But projectably. [1:41:39, 1:41:44]: [6104.4, 6124.4]: uh about something or whatever we have to do because after after we've done our due diligence and and warning the city then you know uh it's it's a it's it's totally about safety. Yeah it's totally about safety. Yeah. So you're right. Well as as I mentioned very briefly that signage the the signage is specified by G dot size [1:42:04, 1:42:12]: Wording, everything. And we install that at our expense when we install the cameras prior to the warning period. And then that was a good question you had for clarification. [1:42:12, 1:42:17]: That the warnings will go to the police department for the exact same process. It's actually very good training. [1:42:17, 1:42:28]: for on the system there that yes, school was in session. They'll do all the same due diligence to verify that it was a good ticket. And then it'll be printed and mailed at our expense. And so each one of these will get that in the mail. [1:42:31, 1:42:34]: Have you worked with this before, this system before yet? [1:42:36, 1:42:47]: I've not personally worked with it, but uh spoken to a number of other colleagues as uh an example. Uh Chief Amberman, we spoke about this. Henry County's implemented this. I'm sure you all have seen their real time crime center they implemented. [1:42:47, 1:43:07]: They paid for that real-time crime center with the proceeds from um from from this program here. It went back into that. And then also with this being integrated into uh the flock system, we could share our data, our flock cameras with the Henry County Real Time Crime Center so that we can work together collaboratively to make sure that um uh we're able [1:43:07, 1:43:22]: to uh uh address crime issues in the community. Um it's in as as Greg had said, we we looked at it several different companies. There are a number of uh of companies that provide this service, but uh Red Speed is the only one that works directly with Flock. It's our um [1:43:22, 1:43:42]: It it it's our goal to implement Flock cameras, L P R cameras throughout the city. As a matter of fact, Miss Anderson who you hear from a little bit later has been working on a grant to implement that. Um Flock works directly with them, so these school safeties and uh school safety zone cameras don't only serve as a speed detection camera but also as a uh security camera as well. [1:43:42, 1:44:02]: Well. So um uh everything that I've heard as it relates to the program from my colleagues says that it's been very beneficial, not just in reducing the number of instances of speed violations in the school zones, but also in terms of keeping the community safe by virtue of those flock cameras that'll be positioned in those areas. Now would you need a revolutionary [1:44:02, 1:44:09]: Maybe the attorneys can answer this. Because after the progression that appeared, uh one of the things we don't [1:44:09, 1:44:25]: I'm sorry. One of the things I I wouldn't want to see is that these violators that are actually putting people in danger and in in these school zones, uh are those set at mandatory or are they objectively looked at in the courts if they want to go to court and fight it? [1:44:27, 1:44:28]: Yeah. [1:44:28, 1:44:48]: The the the alleged violator absolutely has right to go to court as they should. And it would be the same court that would hear your traffic tickets. I assume that's Stockbridge municipal court. The good news for the court and for you all too, only about in Henry County and all the other eight we have about fifty customers all around here, but only about one percent are contesting the ticket. [1:44:49, 1:45:09]: Because most candidly are somewhat embarrassed that they were going so fast in front of the school. Two, there's compelling visual evidence. So there's not much to contest. But yes, I think you're right, they absolutely have the right to contest it as they should. And that would be in um Stockbridge Municipal Court. And the evidence and we prepare what's called an evidence packet for. [1:45:09, 1:45:29]: For the police department and the officer that signed that ticket, they would show up at the court to explain it. Um, it would be a copy of the citation, all correspondence with the motorist, any from them to us and vice versa, uh, calibration information on the radar that it's certified, and that video uh showing. [1:45:29, 1:45:33]: So that was a long answer, but I think that was the question you asked. [1:45:33, 1:45:49]: And to answer your question too, they're escalating fines that if the person continues to be a habitual violator that those fines do increase. And just so that you know, I have spoken with the city solicitor and Judge McCord regarding this in terms of how we will handle this in municipal court and they all are in support of the program as well. [1:45:52, 1:45:53]: Any other questions, Council? [1:45:53, 1:46:01]: If not in the emotion accept this proposal. So if so Mr. Blount, uh miss how Ms. Alzheimer, would you second that? [1:46:01, 1:46:05]: Sept messages and seconds that motion. Any further discussion? All in favor, please indicate. [1:46:06, 1:46:26]: Nancy Sisson. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Thank you all for your time. Appreciate that. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. All right. We'll go back on track here. Council consideration to approve the purchase of the 2023 Izizu Chassis Landscape Truck under Georgia statewide contract number 9999. SPD 0000155-000. [1:46:26, 1:46:38]: Dash zero zero one with Rush Truck Center of Georgia incorporated amount of sixty one thousand eight hundred ninety-three dollars to replace a vehicle that was totaled in twenty twenty-one. Funding source is from the public works department. [1:46:38, 1:46:57]: Budgeted funds and insurance settlement. Mr. Aaron, please. Yes, Mr. Mayor. We're coming tonight to ask uh council to approve the replacement of a truck that was totaled last year and we're using uh budgeted funds and insurance proceeds to pay the cost of the vehicle. [1:46:57, 1:46:59]: Okay. Questions, Council? [1:47:00, 1:47:06]: Uh go ahead please. I think uh Mr. Aaron you had indicated that this vehicle was totaled, is that correct? [1:47:07, 1:47:18]: Yes, sir. And last year a s a resident hit two of the employees head on. They crossed the center line and the vehicle was totaled. Right. Thank you. Thank you. [1:47:18, 1:47:22]: Yes, uh Mr. Blount, go ahead. [1:47:22, 1:47:34]: Yes, sir. So the insurance company paid us, we got the settlement. So So this is this is how we repurchas it through. Yes, sir, along with the uh fifty thousand dollars that was allocated in the FY twenty two budget. [1:47:38, 1:47:39]: [6459.7, 6463.5]: So no we got thirty five thousand dollars for the truck that was totaled. [1:47:43, 1:47:45]: And why are we asking 61? [1:47:45, 1:48:00]: 'Cause the replacement truck is sixty one thousand dollars, but the value of that truck was thirty that they gave us for the truck that was totaled. So take the the outstanding of the value of the truck and then answer this. I'm just trying to figure out how we got the sixty. [1:48:00, 1:48:05]: I'm okay with what we're trying to do. I'm just trying to figure out how we got to get the sixty one versus [1:48:05, 1:48:17]: Well, we're getting that truck that was totaled was a F three fifty that we were hauling a trailer with lawnmowers on it. So we decided to go back with the landscaping truck that we can haul. [1:48:17, 1:48:35]: the more zone and so the landscape truck cost sixty one thousand dollars when compared to a F three fifty is about thirty seven, thirty-eight thousand. So we had budgeted fifty thousand dollars in the budget for a truck, but we decided to use that fifty thousand dollars and ad [1:48:35, 1:48:41]: Eleven thousand dollars from the insurance proceed to buy a landscaping truck instead of a F three fifty. [1:48:41, 1:48:42]: You only have limited. [1:48:42, 1:48:43]: Yes. [1:48:44, 1:48:50]: We're using eleven thousand dollars out of the thirty-five thousand dollars in insurance proceeds to make up the difference. [1:48:51, 1:48:54]: But I'm saying why you only use eleven if you're using the same amount of money. [1:48:55, 1:49:15]: We we d we only needed eleven, we budgeted fifty thousand dollars. So the truck that was totaled, they gave us thirty-five thousand for it. But we didn't go back with the same exact truck. We had a F-350 that we were using to pull a trailer with lawnmowers on it. This time we're going, we're buying a landscaping truck that [1:49:15, 1:49:20]: [6560.7, 6576.7]: And then we'll we'll do it that way, but we're just showing you that we have budgeted fifty thousand for the uh for uh truck that you're getting is a is that's the type of truck you need versus what you just Yes. So then I'm saying [1:49:37, 1:49:55]: We'll use the thirty little different. It's just a matter where you take the funds from, we'll take the thirty five from the insurance settlement and the twenty six out of the budget. So [1:49:57, 1:49:58]: Any other questions from the council? [1:50:00, 1:50:05]: Need a motion to accept his uh proposal. So moved. So Mr. Blount to second. [1:50:05, 1:50:14]: Second, South Sign, you second that? All right, great. Any further discussion? If not, all in favor, please indicate. Okay, so you now have the decision. Thank you very much. Okay. [1:50:19, 1:50:22]: No good good use the insurance settlement. [1:50:23, 1:50:26]: And use the uh twenty six to make it. [1:50:27, 1:50:29]: Have you been out in this? [1:50:30, 1:50:37]: Okay. Council consideration approved authority uh authorizing documents for the Stockbridge Police Department. Mr uh Chief Tremor, please. [1:50:45, 1:51:05]: All right. Good evening again, Mayor and Council. You should have some documentation before you uh from actually a resolution, I believe. And uh this resolution uh covers multiple different things. Uh as you all know, the uh Henry County Police Department. [1:51:05, 1:51:25]: Had previously provided law enforcement services to the city of Stockbridge pursuant to an agreement. And on July 1st, that will no longer be the case. We will be providing services, therefore, the city's charter as it relates to public safety needs to be amended in order to allow for the Stockbridge Police Department to provide the [1:51:25, 1:51:28]: those services to the community. So [1:51:29, 1:51:37]: As the chapter reads at the moment, it says Henry County currently provides law enforcement services within the city of Stockbridge pursuant to an agreement. [1:51:37, 1:51:57]: And we have had to expand upon that to define uh the Stockbridge Police Department's roles and responsibilities, functions and duties of the department, the responsibilities of the chief of police. And within that, there are a couple other things that uh we wanted to include within uh the charter as well. One of those things being uh the authorization for the chief of police, which is common within [1:51:57, 1:52:17]: With many agencies to administer the oath of office to staff. As you imagine, um, hopefully we don't have this case, but uh the swearing in of officers uh can be a regular occurrence. And though we have a very accommodating uh judge and a mayor who's willing to do that for us, um most organizations authorize the chief of police to be able to administer that oath of. [1:52:17, 1:52:27]: So we're asking for council to consider and add to uh the ordinance that authority. Uh the other thing too is to be able to [1:52:27, 1:52:47]: Make certain assignments without competitive examination. Uh we have different rank structures within the police department, uh, one of those being a senior police officer or detective, and we have majors and assistant chiefs. Uh those positions generally are outside of the uh competitive examination process. Uh we do have a defined process that uh basically determines how to do that. [1:52:47, 1:53:07]: How someone gets to become a senior police officer, or how someone gets to be a detective, and when they meet those criteria, then we move them into those uh positions. As it relates to key executive level positions, uh command staff positions that rank a major above, those positions are generally appointed and they're not examination positions. The other thing uh that we proposed for [1:53:07, 1:53:27]: For the police department specifically was a probationary period of twelve months. The current city's probationary period for staff is ninety days. This is problematic from a from from our perspective in that when we begin hiring folks that have no law enforcement background, we have to send them to the police academy, which is 10 to [1:53:27, 1:53:30]: fourteen weeks uh which [1:53:30, 1:53:50]: They technically city employees, so we wouldn't even have an opportunity to evaluate them uh before they got out of the police department. And then we have another 10 week field training program that they have to get through in order for them to be able to go out and perform the job. So the current ninety-day period does not work for purposes of the police department, so we're asking for consideration to expand that to a twelve month probation. [1:53:50, 1:54:00]: period to allow for us to appropriately assess uh officers within a department to make sure that they have the capabilities uh to perform effectively. [1:54:01, 1:54:21]: Um and then the last part relates to um the confiscation and seizure of assets, giving the police department the authority to uh claim compensation or property uh by virtue of participation in uh various different um um uh interagency uh [1:54:21, 1:54:28]: organizations, whether that be task force, drug task force, things along those lines where we're able to share in the profits of those seized funds. [1:54:30, 1:54:50]: Any questions? Thank you, Chief, for the presentation. Anybody down here? [1:54:49, 1:55:01]: to make sure that we do everything possible to lean forward, acquiring every dollar that we possibly can. So you working hand in hand with our new grants person in order to do that. [1:55:02, 1:55:22]: Absolutely. And then the the as we as we grow and we participate in various different task forces, obviously uh we will be able to receive asset forfeiture funds by purchue uh by by virtue of participation of those various different task forces which will offset again some of the expenses, the operating expenses we have, as will the presentation that we had just a moment ago from Red Speed that will be [1:55:22, 1:55:42]: able to offset some of those public safety expenses. I'd mentioned to the the public, I'd mentioned to you all and um uh in talking with our city manager we're looking for ways to do this we're looking for ways to be able to be smart uh about how we um we go about uh doing business so that it impacts uh the citizens impacts the communities as many [1:55:42, 1:55:45]: uh community members as minimal as possible. [1:55:45, 1:55:53]: Any other questions? Reference item eleven and ordinance changes. If there are none, just one real quick. You have you have one, sir? [1:55:54, 1:56:14]: Yeah, but this uh for the authorize uh authorizing those documents, this is I guess it could be on a line of um grant funding, but you you you're talking more a usage in uh for internal personnel use in operations, is that correct? Right. Um and I'm not sure [1:56:14, 1:56:22]: Mayor Pro Tem, if you were if you were uh thinking of the the presentation that we'll make here in a moment that we haven't made yet, is it related to the grants or you speaking to the the seizure portion of this? [1:56:23, 1:56:43]: Well the procedure portion. Okay. Um but to your point, yes, this is not we're not we're not at that point yet where we're talking specifically about the grant item that's on the agenda this evening. Right, right. So I just want to be clear and letting them know what we're authorizing. We're authorizing the the procedurally and within the department. Uh now the oversight of all this [1:56:43, 1:57:03]: Obviously it would be you in that. And I guess any updates that needs to come to council would come through the you in collaboration with the city manager. But just to be clear, this is authorization, this authorizing you all procedurally to move about in those positions. You said that we don't necessarily have [1:57:02, 1:57:22]: Have to have council approvals for it. What it is is putting this department is help independent in the putting this department in independent places where it didn't have to be dealing with the political part of councils of the elected body, that it the operations become internal, that it operates almost in conjunction where other [1:57:22, 1:57:27]: the departments are operating where you don't always have to come do this. [1:57:27, 1:57:47]: Right. Essentially this codifies and gives the police department the authority to be able to conduct its business. Um previously that was not necessary because Henry County provided service, but this is necessary now with the with our police department taking over. And you'll see this is this is pretty common uh as with any municipality uh where it outlines the responsibilities of [1:57:47, 1:57:51]: the police department, the roles and responsibilities of the police chief and the authority of the department. [1:57:52, 1:58:02]: At at any time though, last question. At any time whatever the SOP is for certain uh areas, even when it comes to um um [1:58:04, 1:58:24]: any any confiscation, whatever the SOP is, we are we can just come to you or come to our city manager or whatever, how we we do it the process to find out if there are any updated SOPs to answer any questions that the citizens may have. Because as you know, we as we both know and and we know now the SOPs can change. Right. [1:58:24, 1:58:28]: procedures can change at any time, but still in in line with state law and [1:58:28, 1:58:48]: uh any guidelines to uh pertaining to uh policing that's governed across this uh state. So uh I'm okay with this right here. Yes and as we mentioned before all those things will be available publicly. They'll the all the all the updates and if you notice it does say in here that the chief of police will provide the city manager uh with any updates to the police department [1:58:48, 1:58:50]: work roles um as needed. [1:58:51, 1:59:05]: Member Tim, go ahead, please. Right. Uh thank you. Chief Chairman, Chapter 9.08, uh Vehicles for Hire. [1:59:08, 1:59:11]: What is the relationship [1:59:12, 1:59:14]: With this section [1:59:15, 1:59:30]: with uh business services. Um I don't see the word uh cab or lift or Uber, but w what is the relationship there? And I I guess in my mind I would think that [1:59:30, 1:59:36]: under the city structure uh for cab services, et cetera, et cetera. [1:59:37, 1:59:45]: Seemed like it it would be some kind of coordination uh with being the services for those licenses. Could you explain that? [1:59:46, 2:00:06]: Sir, we've really not gotten into uh to detail about that in looking at it at at the degree of specifif sp specificity in which you are inquiring. Um the revisions to the the various chapters that you have attached in addition to this is basically to strike language that references the Henry County Police Department and replaces it with language [2:00:06, 2:00:08]: Uh of the Stockbridge Police Department. [2:00:09, 2:00:09]: Thank you. [2:00:11, 2:00:12]: Other questions from the council? [2:00:13, 2:00:17]: And if not any motion to accept uh these changes to this ordinance. [2:00:17, 2:00:18]: Some move. [2:00:18, 2:00:25]: Ms. Okay. Ms. Barber, is there a second? Second. Mr. Alzheimer's second, Danny. If there are no further discussion, all in favor please indicate. [2:00:26, 2:00:29]: Okay, you now's decision. Thank you, Chief. Really appreciate it. [2:00:30, 2:00:31]: Fantastic. We're making movement. [2:00:32, 2:00:32]: Moving. [2:00:33, 2:00:45]: Council consideration to apply and receive Cops grant funding to hire ten additional police officers for the Stockbridge Police Department. Presented by says Kelly Russell, but I imagine Chief you'll be doing this as well. [2:00:45, 2:01:05]: Yes, myself and Miss Anderson. Ms. Anderson. Who's been helping Miss Russell? Uh her experience as a grant manager has been extremely beneficial to the department. She will be co-presenting uh with me. And um you should have a presentation before you. And I apologize we don't have this preloaded. I'm gonna pull it up for the benefit of uh both Captain Anderson and I. [2:01:05, 2:01:15]: But at this time I would like Captain Anderson just to uh if you would just share with the council a little bit about this grant, what it is, and um what we're seeking to do with it, if you would please. [2:01:20, 2:01:23]: Okay, good evening. Okay, so the cops grant is for [2:01:23, 2:01:25]: Um law enforcement. [2:01:26, 2:01:29]: І коп'с офисві. [2:01:29, 2:01:34]: uh provide up to one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars over a three year period. [2:01:35, 2:01:39]: uh for an officer, an entry level officer coming into the agency. [2:01:39, 2:01:59]: The um grant is also for um we're looking at category one, which is to hire a new officer, including um filling existing officer vacancies that are no longer funded uh in an agency or are not funded in an agency. So if the a if if it was a position that was funded but just not filled, we wouldn't be able [2:01:59, 2:02:07]: Able to do it. But we're looking at a a position that has not been funded and positions that we've asked for that are not funded. [2:02:07, 2:02:19]: Um it's over three-year period, so it it really amounts to about forty-one thousand six hundred and sixty-six dollars um per officer. [2:02:20, 2:02:22]: [7343.8, 7351.0]: Uh the the agency will have to pay anything over that amount. That includes officers and uh benefit free benefits. [2:02:32, 2:02:44]: So um we were looking at asking for ten of those positions. I think that's what the chief wanna ask for is ten of those positions. Uh it have to be we can't go over twenty percent of our um [2:02:45, 2:02:46]: Allocated um [2:02:46, 2:02:55]: amount of police officers that we have on the force. So we're looking at about ten per and that's about twenty percent of it right there. Uh from fifty-three officers. [2:02:55, 2:03:03]: And is it fifty three? I counted about fifty three officers and we can't go over ten percent or twenty percent of that. Which would be which would be ten officers. Put us at that ten officers rate. [2:03:04, 2:03:13]: And um that's kinda what I have right now. T P you have anything else you want to When is the uh when's the deadline to the deadline uh for submitting this uh grant is on June the sixteenth. [2:03:14, 2:03:34]: Which is why we're bringing it before council now. Right. I'm currently writing uh right uh working on the application. This is a application that's a little different from the others. I have to answer about ninety-one uh questions uh in reference to our community or in the policing plan and how we are uh collaborating and collaborating with other agencies and so forth. So I'm working on all [2:03:34, 2:03:37]: of those answers now. Some of those answers I'm having to get from Henry County. [2:03:38, 2:03:47]: 'Cause we don't have that data. They have the data for our area, so I'm working on getting all that together now. But I have it but I'm sure I'll have together by our deadline on June sixteenth. [2:03:47, 2:04:07]: Mayor for unless it well I was gonna add to that if uh if if council recalls during the budget retreat you all approved uh we started we started uh we we elected to start with a smaller police force uh and it was presented to you what an optimal police force looks like. And uh optimally we would be [2:04:07, 2:04:26]: At 67 officers, not 52 sworn officers, uh, which would mean that that would require the addition of 15 positions to be able to fully do everything and be uh truly self-sufficient as a an organization, to be able to provide for our own traffic division, to be able to provide for um our own um [2:04:27, 2:04:47]: Uh special investigations division and some other uh supplemental positions that um uh would be a benefit to the department. Now we approved that expanded organizational chart, but there were 21 unf funded positions that were on that. And that's what Dr. Anderson was speaking about just a moment ago about having to have those unfunded positions. [2:04:47, 2:05:07]: Positions that we're seeking to be able to fill by virtue of this grant. And just to r uh reiterate, the way that the grant works is that the city is essentially responsible for 25% of the officers' salary. However, there's a$125,000 threshold over a three-year period, which means essentially that the federal government will give you$41,000. [2:05:07, 2:05:15]: Per officer per year, and the city is responsible for the difference of salary and benefits for anything beyond that. [2:05:16, 2:05:17]: Um [2:05:18, 2:05:38]: The the council's approval this evening to uh to move forward with this grant, which is a requirement of the grant, it has to be supported by the governing body, uh is not uh is not saying that we have to uh move down this path, but obviously the council uh must approve it in order for us to be able to submit this grant application. [2:05:38, 2:05:58]: By the deadline. And I think there are a lot of contingencies right now. Obviously, we have proposed annexation. If that does go through, then we will be responsible for the entirety of the interstate throughout the city of Stockbridge, for which we currently are not, which obviously is going to increase our call load demand for service, as well as the demand for service of the roughly 7,000 additional. [2:05:58, 2:06:18]: residents that we will be adding to the city should that move forward. So there will be a need definitely for more officers in the event that the annexation goes forward. But as was stated previously, there truly is a need to have a plan to grow the police department into the future. [2:06:18, 2:06:38]: Uh so that we can provide enhanced services for our citizens irrespective whether or not the annexation goes forward. So uh as was mentioned, you cannot exceed 20% of your agency's current force, which is where we get the ten positions from. A requirement of the grant is that you keep them for twelve months. Um so you can't get the money and then say, okay, we're gonna get the money. [2:06:38, 2:06:56]: gonna we're not gonna fill these positions anymore. So there's a requirement to keep that for twelve months beyond that. Um as we stated before, this is kind of what that would look like. Our current organizational structure, we have fifty two officers. This may be difficult for you to see, but we'd be looking to add 10 new officer positions in the future by utilization of this grant. [2:06:57, 2:06:57]: Um [2:06:58, 2:07:03]: And this is what it looks like from a cost standpoint. So an average uh salary for our officer [2:07:03, 2:07:06]: is roughly um [2:07:07, 2:07:27]: $77,221. Uh we're talking about uh salary of sixty-one thousand and then fifteen thousand four hundred and forty-four in benefits, which is where we derived these numbers from. And this three-year budget program includes a three percent annual cost of living adjustment. So if we were to hypothetically uh be awarded [2:07:26, 2:07:46]: Of this grant for these 10 positions in 2023, the federal government would provide us that first year$416,667. The city would be responsible for matching uh$355,543 based on this model. In 2024, this is a three-year grant, we'd be looking at uh federal matchup. [2:07:46, 2:08:03]: of 429-167, local match 366-210. In 2025, you can see here what our federal match is$442,042. Our local match would be responsible for um$377,196. And um [2:08:04, 2:08:16]: As we move forward, I want to mention that we have to keep these officers for one year, twelve months beyond that three year grant period. So that means that we as a city would be responsible for the full weight of those salaries for that fourth year. [2:08:17, 2:08:35]: And so what that would look like looking at this over a four-year period in 2026, uh we would be fully responsible for those positions, assuming again, uh the cost of living adjustment. So in 2026, those ten officers would cost the city roughly eight hundred and forty-three thousand dollars, eight hundred and forty-three thousand eight hundred and fifteen dollars. [2:08:36, 2:08:56]: Um there's no guarantee that by applying for this a grant that we will receive this grant. There's no guarantee that we will receive the ten positions. They may elect to fund a certain, you know, lesser positions than the ten positions. Um and there's no requirement that if we are elected to receive these funds, that we have to accept these. However, um that's generally frowned. [2:08:56, 2:09:08]: upon in uh applying for these, but again, in order for us to even move forward to continue uh to explore this, there has to be the approval of council uh to move forward with this grant application. [2:09:09, 2:09:14]: Thank you, Chief. Really appreciate it. Mayor Potem, go ahead, please. Mr. Chairman, thank you. Um [2:09:15, 2:09:18]: Let me start out by saying, you know, we had a [2:09:18, 2:09:30]: great day today at two o'clock. Um a a good feel good experience with the swearing in. Um you and I met after that and I expressed [2:09:30, 2:09:41]: My concern, um didn't have a lot of time to read this, but I took the time to read it because it's it's very important to me and I try to do my due diligence. [2:09:41, 2:09:43]: Uh, but I express my concern [2:09:44, 2:09:51]: uh with this and I I have a lot of questions and I didn't get a chance to to to read it all but [2:09:52, 2:09:57]: I have some concerns and and I and I I spoke to you about this and [2:09:58, 2:10:01]: I don't know if if if I'm there. [2:10:01, 2:10:03]: Uh for this additional [2:10:03, 2:10:20]: Uh when I looked at the budget that we approved for twenty twenty two, if I'm not mistaken, we we talked about and and I think you emphasize fifty-eight officers, I I believe it was. Fifty-eight staff members. Right. Um [2:10:22, 2:10:27]: The referendum is in November and I understand that you have to apply for this for the grant. [2:10:27, 2:10:28]: Um [2:10:29, 2:10:33]: But see, and y I told you my concern was about the matching. [2:10:33, 2:10:36]: And and where would those funds come from? [2:10:36, 2:10:43]: But I don't wanna get too too deep into this concern here publicly, but you and I sort of spoke about it. [2:10:45, 2:10:47]: I I'm just not there. Um [2:10:48, 2:11:08]: with the overall concept here, I I do believe that we have enough officers to stand up this department going forward into twenty twenty three. Um I wanted to motion to table this until the next meeting, even though I understand that, you know, we have a date to apply. [2:11:08, 2:11:28]: But I needed more studying. I need to ask more questions, and I need to get a better understanding. I'm just speaking for me. I'm just not there yet. I just believe that we could actually do this in 2023. [2:11:28, 2:11:48]: Even though the grant may not be available, I don't, you know, it may and it may not, but I I'm just not there, Chief. And you know, and I wanted to speak to you beforehand to indicate that to you. Uh, but I'm just not there yet. And but I won't really get too deep. You and I sort of spoke about it, and I think you understand some of my concerns, because I [2:11:48, 2:11:49]: Express those to you. [2:11:49, 2:11:50]: Thank you. [2:11:51, 2:11:52]: Stand by please. Mr. Blount. [2:11:53, 2:12:06]: Thank you for your presentation, Chief. Uh one of the things about me personally is that, you know, once you get the ball rolling, you gotta look realize who's who's in control of the ball. [2:12:06, 2:12:22]: Once we get this ball rolling with the police department, this council hasn't um we haven't started a police department, we we haven't ran a police department, we haven't done the due diligence you've done. So once that ball get the rolling, you have to say what you need. [2:12:23, 2:12:26]: You have to say the ident identify the areas that you need to identify. [2:12:27, 2:12:29]: That's just how the operations work. [2:12:30, 2:12:35]: You know, once that ball gets a rolling, who would it say slow it down when it's trying to now achieve what it needs to achieve? [2:12:36, 2:12:38]: accomplish what it needs to accomplish. [2:12:39, 2:12:46]: When I look at this, you're talking about an additional for our portion, a little over four hundred thousand dollars a year for three years. Then after that, then what? [2:12:47, 2:12:54]: You know, these are the things now that that the ball is rolling now. So how do you slow the ball down? [2:12:54, 2:12:56]: When to make it successful [2:12:56, 2:12:58]: To jump up and do the wave. [2:12:58, 2:13:06]: How do you slow the ball down now when you as a chief that's been put in place to tell us how this needs to be ran, to now tell you how [2:13:07, 2:13:09]: It needs to be ran by you. [2:13:09, 2:13:13]: It we you can't have it both ways as an elected official. [2:13:14, 2:13:17]: Either get the ball rolling, you're all in with all the information you know. [2:13:18, 2:13:20]: Or you hold back and you do it a different way. [2:13:21, 2:13:25]: The ball is rolling. You're saying what you need, and that's just what it is right now. [2:13:26, 2:13:32]: That's just what it is, to accomplish this. But I'm gonna ask the chief, how many um [2:13:33, 2:13:53]: Total officers and staff, officer and staff, then we'll do the comp combined total. What's the total officers officers and staff? We have uh fifty-two uh sworn full-time officers, six civilian for a total of fifty-eight staff members, full-time staff members, and then we have four part-time positions. [2:13:53, 2:13:54]: Um [2:13:54, 2:13:56]: in the department. So [2:13:56, 2:13:58]: That that's our that's our current number. [2:13:58, 2:14:08]: Uh Mr Wiggins, what is the the what is the amount of sustainability yearly for that for what we have on board with the police department now? [2:14:18, 2:14:20]: Yeah. [2:14:25, 2:14:31]: I can get more acronyms probably tomorrow, but with the current salary that that we have budgeted now, um [2:14:33, 2:14:34]: It's about um [2:14:36, 2:14:40]: I think it was about two, two close to three mi close to three million. [2:14:40, 2:14:43]: So m Mr. Wiggins, what I'm s what I'm asking you. [2:14:44, 2:14:47]: is this question with these numbers. [2:14:48, 2:14:50]: Вот вига. [2:14:51, 2:14:52]: Personnel. [2:14:53, 2:14:55]: Right now with the police department. [2:14:56, 2:15:16]: What is the n what is the amount? I I mean I I I wish I don't really don't want to do it about and round about. Do we have an amount for sustainability that's needed to sustain the police department right now? What is that amount? You're talking about these numbers here? If you're looking at these numbers here, you you you're looking at trying to budget for twenty twenty three. Wait, I'm not talking about these numbers. I'm talking about [2:15:16, 2:15:19]: Fifty eight employees that are coming to board. [2:15:20, 2:15:21]: That is a totally different department. [2:15:22, 2:15:26]: We don't have the numbers that say what the sustainability though of that department is. [2:15:27, 2:15:28]: Two point nine. [2:15:29, 2:15:36]: Two point nine. Do you have something that's just I I I don't have exact numbers because this is something that that did not come to me. [2:15:37, 2:15:40]: I'm just going off what I just remember as far as [2:15:40, 2:15:41]: in in as far as the budgets. [2:15:42, 2:15:44]: Salaries is about two point nine. [2:15:45, 2:15:47]: If you're talking about the whole [2:15:47, 2:15:49]: Operation of the police department as of now. [2:15:50, 2:15:52]: We have it budgeted at about [2:15:53, 2:15:54]: close to um [2:15:54, 2:15:55]: Three point three. [2:15:56, 2:15:57]: So [2:15:57, 2:15:59]: You know, looking at next year. [2:16:00, 2:16:01]: It's gonna go up to about five. [2:16:03, 2:16:04]: Because of operations. [2:16:05, 2:16:10]: What I'm saying is I I could I could give you a specific number. I mean if you'd like for it now I've got a [2:16:11, 2:16:15]: I think I've got a a USB drive in my bag where I can pull that out I in and [2:16:15, 2:16:29]: uh get you an exact figure because we have I I I've we've taken a look at what's been budgeted for the police department. We looked at our salaries and we made sure we're actually a hundred thousand dollars under our budgeted salaries so far with the staff that we have on board. [2:16:29, 2:16:49]: Um our our obviously budget this year is a little different because it's only for a seven month period as opposed to an entire twelve month period. Uh that budget was based on a five point eight million dollar budget. And if you would subtract roughly twenty percent from that, I'm not great at math, but if you just you you you punch in there five point eight million minus twenty percent, that's gonna give you roughly [2:16:49, 2:16:57]: what our what our what the cost is to maintain the current staff that we have on board right now. And and I get that, Chief, and I definitely appreciate that. [2:16:58, 2:17:02]: And I appreciate you giving a number, Mr. Wickers. Well what I'm saying is [2:17:02, 2:17:04]: When it comes to the police department here. [2:17:04, 2:17:08]: When it comes to the Cultural Arts Center here, when it comes to what we got in f [2:17:09, 2:17:13]: This at some point in time all of these numbers are gonna come together. [2:17:13, 2:17:20]: In this city, the responsibility of this city gonna be responsible for all of these numbers. [2:17:21, 2:17:23]: True. [2:17:25, 2:17:27]: Ак джес аккурат нобс. [2:17:28, 2:17:44]: to give and to be to be transparent with the citizens, how can we make sound decisions here, whether it's the increase of 10 employees or increase in the trails or increase in the uh uh uh culture arts if we're not getting numbers, how can we make these decisions? [2:17:46, 2:17:47]: I I don't get it. [2:17:48, 2:17:55]: Councilmember Blount, the FY22 budget for the police department is$3.6 million. [2:17:58, 2:18:16]: And and as Mr. Biggins said, that's for the last half of the budget'cause we're going active with them July one. So that doesn't cover the entire year. So if you're looking at FY twenty three, that number's gonna be substantially h a little higher than than that. Probably in the neighborhood of close to five million. [2:18:17, 2:18:22]: So we're looking at sustainability close to five million dollars with the with the police apart. [2:18:23, 2:18:31]: This is not including anything else we've been talking about. We're talking about So this is where this is where this city, and I'm asking staff. [2:18:32, 2:18:35]: I'm personally as a staff [2:18:36, 2:18:43]: To start bringing us numbers because at some point in time, these numbers are gonna have to be met. [2:18:44, 2:18:46]: And they're gonna have to be met by the city. [2:18:48, 2:18:53]: And we as an elected body is going to have to meet those numbers. We can't sit back [2:18:53, 2:18:57]: and not know numbers and s and strategize and enlist [2:18:58, 2:19:03]: How do we make decisions to add, take away or do anything if we don't have numbers? [2:19:03, 2:19:08]: Right. Well, you you you have the numbers, um [2:19:08, 2:19:10]: No no you have numbers. [2:19:11, 2:19:18]: We don't have numbers. The numbers I'm asking for right now, I just got two numbers. Two point nine, I just got five around five million. [2:19:18, 2:19:23]: The number the number you asking for, FY twenty two, our current budget year. [2:19:24, 2:19:27]: For the police department in the approved budget. [2:19:27, 2:19:28]: Is [2:19:28, 2:19:41]: 3.6 million. Well that budget. Three million six hundred E level. That budget is brought about by a lot of funding from opera. Things are built up and brought together. I said sustainability is beyond now. [2:19:41, 2:19:57]: Right. There has to be s m Mr. Gardner I'm trying to tell you, there has to be beyond next next year budget, what is proposed amount for sustainability? Okay, so so what you're asking us is a hypothetical number. [2:19:57, 2:20:17]: To throw out to you because until we actually start sitting down for FY twenty things and FY twenty four with the chief to determine any needs beyond above and beyond what he's currently utilizing today, any number we throw out here to you is gonna be arbitrary, right? Because the budget is always a moving document. [2:20:17, 2:20:27]: It is not the Bible. It is not the Constitution. It is a moving, living, breeding document based on what's happening in real time. That's why we amended. [2:20:28, 2:20:48]: That's why you have an amendment process to amend the budget. What you start out with at the beginning of the year, it's not what you always end up with. But in terms of your question as to what are we what are we doing as it relates to sustainability, well obviously when we go through the next budget year and you start to see what that number, that real number look like, we have to look at [2:20:47, 2:20:51]: Where our revenue is, our revenue sources. [2:20:52, 2:20:56]: What that total revenue source is and played out against the expenses of each department. [2:20:57, 2:20:58]: Right? [2:20:58, 2:21:03]: And so with that is if the police department in a full fiscal year [2:21:04, 2:21:06]: is five point two milyen dollars [2:21:07, 2:21:10]: And our revenues stay the same as it is for this year next year. [2:21:11, 2:21:18]: Then obviously we have to determine whether or not we're gonna pull that from our fund balance or we're going to find [2:21:19, 2:21:23]: Revenue source from within the other departments, meaning cut operations, or [2:21:24, 2:21:44]: There are other ways of gaining the additional revenue sources that are allowed to be discussed. But you you're you're asking us for what what we're looking at in the future. No, no, no, no, no. We'll be talking about budget. We're talking about budgets already. Um next month. Then we start the process six months. [2:21:44, 2:21:47]: But this is what I'm my concern is this. [2:21:49, 2:21:55]: My concern is this, we've got to start bringing numbers that make sense. [2:21:55, 2:22:12]: Numbers I'm hearing right now doesn't make sense with the budget we have right now. They don't make sense. Well let me say this. So you're looking at a corps grant opportunity to help fund police officers. Mr. Garner, all due respect, that's a situation. [2:22:12, 2:22:32]: That's the situation that if we get into that, and I just said it's gonna cost us about$400,000 a year for about four, about three years until that grant goes away. I'm talking about sustainability to where we're going as a city. Right. So you will hear you will hear that as we evaluate our current situation in light of what we're gonna be looking at next year. [2:22:32, 2:22:50]: Mr Blount. I mean this is not the forum to discuss next year's budget and what we perceive to be the projections for next year. So that's why you have the budget process. What you what you want us to do is and I think Miss Ms. Barber's asking for the same thing is [2:22:51, 2:22:54]: Look at where we are today with all of our obligations. [2:22:55, 2:22:56]: In this current period in time. [2:22:57, 2:23:05]: Right? How do we meet those obligations? If we add more to that list of obligations, how are we proposing to pay for that obligation moving forward? [2:23:05, 2:23:14]: I think that's what everybody's asking. What's the balance in this plus? What's the balance? Everybody wanna know where are we gonna be cherry picking money to pay for what we gotta pay for? [2:23:15, 2:23:15]: Right. [2:23:17, 2:23:22]: Did I do some Mr. Garnum uh but I'm just gonna say that I'm gonna let someone else I'm always a numbers man. [2:23:23, 2:23:24]: Understood. That's just who I am. [2:23:25, 2:23:30]: Understood. And if I don't get the numbers, then something doesn't sit well with me. I'm always a numbers person. [2:23:31, 2:23:36]: Understood. That's that's how I operate, that's how I move about. And when we're talking about a budget. [2:23:36, 2:23:45]: What's the cost gonna be? What's the projection? I don't look at the now. I look at the future. Understood. And be all the decisions we make right now affects the future. [2:23:45, 2:23:48]: That is so correct. And and and realizing [2:23:49, 2:23:58]: You know, a as as Chief Tremor said, you have the potential to add seven thousand new residents to the city come November one, November third. [2:23:59, 2:24:00]: Right? [2:24:00, 2:24:03]: You're adding additional streets, additional neighborhoods. [2:24:03, 2:24:04]: And [2:24:06, 2:24:08]: Not disparaging any neighborhoods, but [2:24:09, 2:24:14]: The neighborhoods that we're gonna add are probably got some challenges that that this police to force is gonna have to deal with. [2:24:15, 2:24:18]: Right. And if you're looking at being able to truly provide [2:24:18, 2:24:19]: Four [2:24:19, 2:24:30]: those services, right? When I speak to Henry County and we talk about the l the amount of activities in the entire county for all the municipalities, they will tell you that Stockbridge ranked the highest. [2:24:31, 2:24:48]: Right. So obviously I think Chief is trying to be proactive and approaching saying, Hey, if and and there's no guarantee that we will get the grant, but if this organization is approved, you add you add four or five more neighborhoods, you add seven thousand more people. [2:24:48, 2:24:54]: You add an additional portion of the interstate, right? With the manpower that we currently have. [2:24:55, 2:25:00]: Can we now add additional police officers and how do we do that in a way where [2:25:00, 2:25:05]: Someone is paying for a portion of that cost for three years. [2:25:06, 2:25:13]: Right, which give you some more window time in order to determine future needs beyond twenty twenty five or twenty twenty-four. [2:25:13, 2:25:14]: So [2:25:14, 2:25:16]: Yes, we have to pay a portion of it. [2:25:17, 2:25:19]: But it's like this plus. [2:25:20, 2:25:23]: Forty percent of that forty cents out of that dollar that we get. [2:25:24, 2:25:27]: is paid for for somebody that don't even live in Henry County. [2:25:27, 2:25:31]: They're coming here to shop at the Target shopping center, South Point Mall. [2:25:31, 2:25:42]: They're the ones who are subsidizing us. So right now we're saying the feds could potentially subsidize a portion of the cost for up to ten. We don't know if they're gonna approve us for ten. They might only approve us for two. [2:25:43, 2:26:03]: But at least we know that we're trying to defray some portion of that cost and have them do it for a period of time to allow for us, if by some chance the zoning is approved and we got more time more. The last thing we need is the people to say, we're not getting the same level of cost or the time for response is l is greater because we got police cover. [2:26:03, 2:26:09]: Mr. Garner, I I'm not sure. I appreciate that. [2:26:09, 2:26:29]: But I'm asking for numbers. If you all can give me numbers on a projection of sustainability for next year, I'm fine with it. I get all these scenarios, probabilities, and I'm talking about actuals right now that would tell us what we got right now, what's coming aboard right now. I can't say if we're gonna have 65 officers in the future. [2:26:29, 2:26:41]: I'm talking about right now what we have. The sustainability of what we have. I'm not talking about if we get another splot sand. I'm talking about right now. So so right now you have as we said you have [2:26:42, 2:26:51]: $3.6 million to cover you from July 1 to December 31st for 50 something officers and associated administrative staff. [2:26:52, 2:26:52]: That's it. [2:26:54, 2:27:00]: Then whatever you eyes guys need to do in the finance office to get a projection for next year. [2:27:00, 2:27:09]: I just suspect to see those numbers. Well, that number comes with the with the project budget process for the next fiscal year. If we had to do this with every single item, Mr. Blount. [2:27:10, 2:27:20]: We'll be developing your budget every month or every council meeting. And'cause you're asking us to to project out on every item. If I ask if I ask [2:27:20, 2:27:23]: You or Mr. Wiggins [2:27:23, 2:27:32]: What w this the staff in this building right here, just this building, what are we paying them and how to and what's the sustainability amount? You should be able to give that to me. [2:27:32, 2:27:52]: Y yes, I can give you And that's the that's no different than what I'm asking right now. Understood. I can give you what we budgeted for the staff for this fiscal year. You're talking about the fiscal year, but which our fiscal year is different because it ends this December thirty first. That's correct. So now I want to understand what is projection of what [2:27:52, 2:27:59]: What we're doing for next year, both versus those numbers of projection for next year. They may not be the actual, but they at least give us something to work with. [2:28:00, 2:28:01]: Yes, sir. [2:28:03, 2:28:04]: Ms. Alexander, please. [2:28:06, 2:28:26]: It it's tough being in in a position where you gotta uh forecast out because I mean at the end of the year, you know, we're gonna judge the budget by what what how close we get to that target. The three point six is the target that we're aiming for. Could be higher or lower depending upon uh what's called upon, but that is [2:28:26, 2:28:46]: The best number that is available right now. Of course, you could take that three point six now and uh b multiply it by seven months and then give you a arbitrary number for the entire year next year, but that's not gonna be that number would be very arbitrary in terms of uh [2:28:45, 2:29:05]: what what's gonna look at. But what we're looking at right now is this. What I've heard is you apply for this grant, you we you're looking for authorization from us to apply for the grant. Once you get the authorization to apply for the grant, you may or may not get it. And then [2:29:05, 2:29:25]: Then once the authorization is given, we still have an opportunity to not accept the grant once it is allocated to us. If we do if the, let's say, God forbid the annexation does not go through, then at that point we have the we have the option to not take the grant. [2:29:25, 2:29:45]: Based on the fact that the annexation did not go through at that point. So this is not the final decision that we're making. They're asking for authorization to take a chance on this grant that will help us in the future if the annexation does in fact pass. Is that correct? That is correct. [2:29:45, 2:29:51]: Correct. I I will say one thing. Um and I think Chief alluded to this, you know, it [2:29:53, 2:29:57]: Typically when you apply for a grant through these sources [2:29:58, 2:29:58]: The defense. [2:29:59, 2:30:19]: If you don't accept them and you put an application in for the next four to five years, you probably ain't gonna get it. Right. Because you realize that there are other communities competing with you along who are willing to obligate their time to put in the application and they didn't get it. So the next time you do put in, those seem evaluators are sitting there. [2:30:19, 2:30:28]: They're gonna say, oh yeah, this is Stockbridge. We watered them, but they turned it down. So rather than dealing with them, we're gonna give it to Salisbury, Maryland instead. [2:30:28, 2:30:36]: Yeah, yeah. So that is that is the risk you run when we apply for federal grants. And I worked in the community, so did John Wiggins. [2:30:36, 2:30:51]: They had a grant for firefighters and when the recession hit, we laid off those firefighters and the feds came after the city and it took us almost eleven years before we got a federal grant for the fire department again. [2:30:51, 2:31:11]: Of course, I mean uh the scenario that I laid out was hypothetical, but I certainly expect the annexation to pass. I I would hope that it would pass. So uh but in the end it's not the final decision that uh would be made. And you know, anybody that runs a business understands too. Uh year number five. [2:31:11, 2:31:12]: Five. [2:31:12, 2:31:32]: If the budget money is not there, you have to lay them off. It's pretty it's pretty simple. I mean, it's not like lot like we would like to do that, but after the grant is exhausted and then the matching funds are over, the period of time has run, right? So is that is that the is the five-year the actual period of [2:31:32, 2:31:36]: [9097.0, 9104.7]: But you have a certain amount of time you're supposed to retain these these if by some chance you do not meet that obligation. [2:31:45, 2:31:48]: You're you're going to have to meet that obligation. [2:31:48, 2:32:08]: Over. So basically you'd have to take them for another. But but again, you get five years of four or five years of this grant where if the officer is subsidized, you won't you have to take them an additional year in order to fulfill the requirement of the grant. But at that point you're you're able to budget. [2:32:08, 2:32:16]: budget. If you can't afford them, then you just cannot afford them. And I and I will tell you, the the faces that y'all saw today in that room. Mm-hmm. [2:32:17, 2:32:20]: Next year this time those faces probably won't s won't be the same. [2:32:21, 2:32:37]: Right. And I think chiefdom could allude to it that their chances are somebody's gonna try to steal our best officers from us. Officers rotate in and out. Just being one hundred percent honest with you. Um one of the ladies in that room was a staff of the East Point Police Department. [2:32:37, 2:32:41]: A few months ago, right? And she's now with us. [2:32:41, 2:32:43]: Right. So um [2:32:44, 2:32:57]: That happens. Um and obviously as Chief Dumber to tell you, yes, we had a lot of applications, but at the same time trying to get those qualified officers is a hard deal because everybody is picking from the same pond. [2:32:58, 2:33:08]: Right. And in some cases they're putting kids through the through the police academy. We had the special privilege of having to go after all existing post certified officers. [2:33:09, 2:33:29]: Right. So what what I'm saying is you're bringing us this recommendation. We asked for you all to go out and seek grants, right? You did. The council did ask. So that's what you're doing. Yes. And you're bringing us back what you recommend is the best available grant for this situation where we are now. That's what you're doing. Yes. Okay. [2:33:29, 2:33:33]: Thank you. All right. Ms. Barber, you have any comments? [2:33:33, 2:33:40]: Actually, Councilman Alexander stole all of my questions. I was gonna ask specifically about the grant. Um [2:33:41, 2:33:42]: The time period [2:33:42, 2:33:45]: They mentioned that the matching funds were [2:33:46, 2:33:56]: uh for three years in the fourth year we would be responsible for the total compensation including benefits as well um [2:33:57, 2:34:00]: I have to be honest. I'm a bit um [2:34:04, 2:34:07]: Undecided only because we don't know. [2:34:07, 2:34:10]: what will happen with this proposed annexation. [2:34:11, 2:34:11]: Um [2:34:12, 2:34:12]: But [2:34:12, 2:34:18]: I do know we will still need those officers um in some form or fashion. [2:34:18, 2:34:20]: Just as Mr. Gardner mentioned. [2:34:20, 2:34:21]: Um [2:34:21, 2:34:26]: Maybe a little percentage of turnover, and we want to make sure we're maintaining. [2:34:26, 2:34:30]: Um a good workforce of police officers. So I'm a bit um [2:34:31, 2:34:32]: Undecided. [2:34:32, 2:34:36]: I don't like when decisions like this are brought to me at the last minute. [2:34:38, 2:34:42]: That is what's giving me pause. If I had more time to have conversation. [2:34:42, 2:34:43]: Um [2:34:43, 2:34:45]: And discussions about it. [2:34:46, 2:34:48]: But I'm feeling a bit pressured. [2:34:48, 2:34:50]: And I don't like feeling that way. [2:34:50, 2:34:54]: I think we need to continue the conversations in regards to this. [2:34:55, 2:35:00]: But I'm afraid the deadline for this um [2:35:00, 2:35:02]: is approaching and we may not have [2:35:03, 2:35:18]: enough time to get all the questions answered. I'm one of those kind of people that want actual numbers, um, not just projections. I know what the budget is. I want to know where we sit right now with the salaries and benefits of the officers that are [2:35:19, 2:35:22]: currently sworn in and what our head counts are. [2:35:23, 2:35:26]: That kind of gives me an idea, um [2:35:29, 2:35:40]: At least for this year. Yes, ma'am. You y you you've got you've got three point six million dollars that are allocated for the police department. Um [2:35:40, 2:35:45]: I'm talking about actuals. [2:35:45, 2:35:52]: We've got a lot of um projects that we're considering. Yep. Um let me finish. The Culture Art Center. [2:35:52, 2:35:54]: Um we just had a presentation. [2:35:54, 2:35:56]: Um earlier today. [2:35:56, 2:35:57]: That is another [2:35:57, 2:35:58]: uh cost is [2:35:59, 2:36:01]: We are responsible for making decisions. [2:36:01, 2:36:02]: About [2:36:02, 2:36:06]: The d police department, of course I want to make sure that it's fully funded. [2:36:06, 2:36:08]: That they have everything that they need. [2:36:09, 2:36:20]: Um we're just getting started. Just getting started. Um and I hate to uh not approve this at this time. Um [2:36:20, 2:36:24]: Knowing that next year they will be fully function well. [2:36:25, 2:36:34]: It will be a year worth of um operations uh for our police department. I really want to make sure that they have everything they need. [2:36:34, 2:36:36]: But I'm hesitant because I [2:36:36, 2:36:39]: Don't know where we are financially. [2:36:39, 2:36:42]: Yeah. So as a as a release of [2:36:42, 2:36:43]: Yeah. [2:36:43, 2:36:47]: Your budget your f your budget is [2:36:48, 2:36:58]: Is what you have predicated on spending on an item similar to your monthly budget, you know you're going to receive X amount of revenues. [2:36:58, 2:37:18]: in terms of your paycheck and you have X amount towards your light bill, your water bill. In your budget, you have you know where your revenue source is coming from and you've allotted three point six million towards the police department. So that's that's money that you're going to spend this year, right? The only way that we would [2:37:18, 2:37:37]: would s would stave off that if if we don't hire or didn't hire the amount of police officers and like I said, that number is gonna fluctuate because for whatever reason, let's say for instance, one or two officers decide to leave because of whatever issues. [2:37:37, 2:37:52]: then you don't always you won't hit that top mark because you'll have salary savings because you're not gonna be down two offices. So it it's a variable number in terms of whether or not you're gonna re reach that number. But it is budgeted. It's it's not [2:37:53, 2:37:59]: You know, you set aside this chunk of money based on your revenues to pay for this specific cost. [2:38:00, 2:38:06]: Um and so all all this grant and through us asking is an opportunity. [2:38:07, 2:38:10]: that we put in for it and like Chief said. [2:38:10, 2:38:15]: Винодід да ви ганаги, а ви на тен. [2:38:15, 2:38:18]: Right? They might only fund us for five. [2:38:18, 2:38:20]: So that number would be [2:38:20, 2:38:21]: considerably lower. [2:38:22, 2:38:22]: But [2:38:23, 2:38:23]: Once again. [2:38:24, 2:38:36]: If fifty percent of your cost is going to be paid from somebody else, then that's fifty percent you wouldn't have had to pay if you would come if this sauce wasn't here. You'd be paying for a hundred percent of that cost. [2:38:36, 2:38:38]: For that first three years. [2:38:39, 2:38:44]: Right, so half of that cost is subsidized by the feds. [2:38:44, 2:38:48]: So you're not paying one hundred percent. So let's say the annexation does happen. [2:38:49, 2:38:58]: We don't get the grant, but you need additional officers. Then we've got to find 100% of those costs for whatever number of officers we gotta add. [2:38:59, 2:39:01]: So I want you look at it in that in that realm. [2:39:01, 2:39:04]: And thank you for that. [2:39:05, 2:39:06]: That helps. [2:39:07, 2:39:09]: It helps me, but again [2:39:09, 2:39:11]: Від оливі анфорсьен. [2:39:12, 2:39:13]: Thanks. [2:39:13, 2:39:17]: А інфак і конкіння поліс. [2:39:18, 2:39:23]: Uh headquarters. Um, I believe there was an amount that we budgeted. [2:39:23, 2:39:27]: And we actually had to add more funding to that. Am I [2:39:28, 2:39:44]: No, we we I think it's three point three point nine million or three point six and that that cost is that cost is in budget. And after fact right now we're a little bit under budget in terms of cost. Under budget right now because of the savings they've had going through the process. [2:39:44, 2:39:47]: There was a cost. Yes. [2:39:47, 2:39:49]: Associated with the police department. [2:39:50, 2:39:57]: Um I'm not sure exactly what that cost was, what it was expenditure it was, but it was not. [2:39:58, 2:39:59]: Budgeted. [2:40:00, 2:40:20]: Mr. Wiggins, that's why I'm asking. I need a reference. Okay. I I remember um do you recall Chief Tramer? I think I think I do remember what you're referring to. And um when I initially presented the proposed budget to to mayor and council, um as we were [2:40:20, 2:40:24]: moving forward the police department, uh we had we did estimate um [2:40:25, 2:40:45]: I I think about seven hundred fifty thousand dollars in renovations. Uh that was an estimate. Um that was part of that. But again, I'd think I'd mention to y'all I'm not, you know, I'm not in the construction business in this economy. Uh that was uh an a a a guesstimation and obviously when we looked at some of the needs uh of the building was significantly higher than that and thank [2:40:45, 2:40:48]: Thankfully we still had funds from the bond to be able to support that. [2:40:48, 2:41:01]: So the cost for renovations was higher than what was proposed when the budget was initially presented uh to council um uh before we fully got into the cost. So uh maybe that's what you're referring to. [2:41:02, 2:41:19]: I know it was something. That is why I need a itemized statement of all of our accounts. I need to see what the actuals are versus what we budgeted. It's those unforeseen things that are happening here that's giving me pause. Um [2:41:19, 2:41:27]: I know um I can trust Chief Tramer. Um, if this is something that he is suggesting we do. [2:41:27, 2:41:29]: I want to trust him. [2:41:30, 2:41:36]: Басто, ам responsible for the finances of our city. [2:41:36, 2:41:38]: And making sure that we are in [2:41:39, 2:41:59]: In order with decisions that I make. That's all. That's what's giving me pause here. Yes, ma'am. And and and we also as as your staff, we have as as as your professional staff, we have that fiduciary responsibility to stay and make sure that we're within budget. And that's our and that's that's that's gonna be our goal. That we we we we hold to that too because [2:41:59, 2:42:13]: We're as you guys are responsible to the taxpayers, we're responsible for you to make sure that you're giving the taxpayers the information they need um and they get an understanding of where the money is going um as we spend as we spend those tax dollars. Yes ma'am? [2:42:13, 2:42:25]: Yeah. Go ahead, Mr. Blount. Look, um when we started this uh whole process with police department. [2:42:25, 2:42:31]: We had trails, we had the cultural arts center, every everything that we had then we have now. [2:42:31, 2:42:33]: And one of the things I said to you, Chief Tramer. [2:42:34, 2:42:35]: Personally, I say it to you. [2:42:36, 2:42:40]: I support everything you're doing with this police department because the ball is rolling now. [2:42:42, 2:42:46]: Whether I wanted the ball to be in a certain way before it started rolling, it's rolling now. [2:42:47, 2:42:58]: And so I'm gonna motion that we approve the grant and the ten uh additional officers. The ball is rolling. We can't it it it needs to move forward. Now we gotta trust you that you know what you're doing. [2:42:59, 2:42:59]: Second. [2:43:00, 2:43:06]: Okay, Mr Pl uh Mr. Uh Alexander second that motion. Uh we had plenty of discussion, so all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [2:43:08, 2:43:09]: All opposed. [2:43:11, 2:43:12]: You abstain. [2:43:14, 2:43:25]: You you approve it? Okay, so we got three z three zero one. Okay, motion passed. Three zero one. All right? Thank you, sir. Appreciate that. It's great, great. Thank you for your work. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. [2:43:26, 2:43:28]: Uh all right. Uh [2:43:29, 2:43:33]: Council consideration to amend cities procurement ordinance. [2:43:33, 2:43:35]: Mr Berry, sir. [2:43:36, 2:43:37]: You're up to bet. [2:43:53, 2:43:55]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. [2:43:55, 2:43:56]: Um [2:43:58, 2:44:18]: When Quentin and I started working as city attorneys for the city, I guess in the spring, uh we started looking at a few different things and and one of those was the the city's uh procurement code and realized that the city, you know, all in all was working quite well and there were a few sort of changes that needed to be made. Uh and you know, so now after [2:44:18, 2:44:38]: After some time we've coming to the council with some recommended changes. Oh, sorry, I think I'm pressing something on the computer. Um coming to the council with a few different recommended changes. I've, you know, speak with Ms. Miller often regarding various procurement matters and um just you know sort of making some some suggestions along the way. [2:44:38, 2:44:43]: So I emailed those proposed edits. I don't know if there's a way to put'em on the screen. I've got a a PowerPoint as well. [2:44:43, 2:45:03]: They're all I I mean, I think generally pretty straightforward um Mayor. I don't know if there's a way to have presentation in our book. If you want assistance, uh I mean I don't know that it's necessary to I'm old school with my papers. Yeah, well we ha all of us have presentations in our book. That just that the public can't see if you like the public can't see it. Either way. [2:45:03, 2:45:07]: Sure, we could Is that the Elmo? [2:45:09, 2:45:10]: Like that watch. [2:45:31, 2:45:51]: But I'll I'll try and be mindful of time and and go through these pretty quickly. They're all pretty straightforward. Uh i it it may not be necessary. Okay. All right, and the underlying sections are the the additions and then any strike throughs or [2:45:51, 2:45:56]: are obviously struck through. The first is just again adding to [2:45:56, 2:46:06]: Section three point three zero point zero one three that any time there's federal money involved that we need to make sure that the procurement says that federal law will be followed to the extent [2:46:06, 2:46:26]: Extent applicable. Uh the next on on page three of the presentation is just making sure that council remains informed of all procurements. Uh and to do that, we suggested adding a section whereby uh the procurement division would submit information to the city manager, who would then provide a regular report to the city council. [2:46:26, 2:46:46]: And the information, and we've put this in the proposed changes, the titles of all open requests for proposals and bids, uh, contracts authorized by the council, the method of source selection, whether it's an RFP, a bid, or anything like that, the dollar amount, any change orders or contract modifications, and the status of any RFP. [2:46:46, 2:47:00]: fees or bids. I spoke with Councilmember Barber beforehand and I can make this addition, but we recommend also that council be notified of all contracts that are expiring 120 days before the expiration. [2:47:01, 2:47:04]: Uh so that council can know, you know, whether to to [2:47:04, 2:47:24]: Extend a contract if there are renewal terms or if not to go ahead and put something back out to bid. So I can I can write up that language as needed. If I'd like to get consensus to the rest of the council if that's something that is doable, they'd like to see for one. Number two is that Mr. Gardner [2:47:24, 2:47:36]: [10056.1, 10074.2]: All right. So what it what it amounts to is that uh yeah you've got to make sure the rest of the council is in agreement with that and Mr. Gardner needs to understand what's happening and yeah, I think he stepped away to re use a restroom with some along those lines. But so I'll make an a note. I didn't interrupt you, so go out in the several please. [2:47:57, 2:47:59]: You have something go ahead. If you have something [2:47:59, 2:48:00]: Think about [2:48:01, 2:48:20]: I asked that you allow Mr. Barrett to continue with his entire presentation because I have several requests that I've met with him about. Oh well. It's interesting that you're Mr. Berry interjecting here, but you didn't interject with the long discussion on the grants for the police department. [2:48:23, 2:48:29]: The next on on page four, uh the the primary one here is um [2:48:30, 2:48:50]: in number two, I guess B two, section three point three oh point eighty, saying right now it says that uh there's a requirement that there be three bidders for all procurements. And uh it's my advice that that's just improper and and violates all sorts of procurement p policies. So here the [2:48:50, 2:49:10]: A stated preference that the city prefers three or more vendors compete in a procurement. However, it's a goal and not a requirement. Uh the next is in section D saying that anytime there's a sole source procurement that there needs to be a written uh memo justifying the use of the sole source. No, sorry. [2:49:09, 2:49:24]: Mr Mr. Plus, those changes that was made. Um we still have a resolution out there. If you remember that the mayor was gonna veto the ordinance and we has a we have a resolution out there. Isn't that resolution in conflict with what you just said? [2:49:26, 2:49:41]: If I may uh two things. First, I think the resolution was before we began, but this ordinance would supersede or sort of trump that resolution. But you still have a resolution out there. Does it need to be rescinded? Because if it conflicts what you're putting out as an ordinance, then that puts us in place of litigation any time someone wants to do it. [2:49:42, 2:49:50]: Correct and with the the way that the resolutions are always written, so the this would say that anything in conflict is hereby repealed. [2:49:51, 2:49:52]: Um [2:49:52, 2:50:02]: Right, I I understand what you're saying, but this would take priority and we could make sure that it's written. Well I understand that, but wouldn't we sh wouldn't it be best practice if we rescinded the resolution? [2:50:03, 2:50:06]: Yeah. To make it cleaner, yes. To make it cleaner, yes. [2:50:07, 2:50:08]: Thank you. [2:50:10, 2:50:12]: Mayor Ford. Okay. [2:50:13, 2:50:17]: So I brought forth that resolution um asking [2:50:17, 2:50:24]: Requesting three responsive bidders for solicitations. The reason why I did it, I explained it then. [2:50:25, 2:50:27]: That statement [2:50:27, 2:50:29]: Із арені. [2:50:29, 2:50:37]: On all solicitations. It was included on solicitations before we even approved the resolutions. [2:50:38, 2:50:44]: I am perfectly fine with removing or changing the language of our ordinance. [2:50:44, 2:51:02]: That would supersede the resolution and it would force the changes to the standard language that is already included in our procurement policies, manuals, solicitation languages. So I want it to be clear. [2:51:03, 2:51:05]: The whole resolution [2:51:05, 2:51:08]: Рекварин три респанси бідрис. [2:51:09, 2:51:10]: With language [2:51:10, 2:51:12]: That was already included [2:51:13, 2:51:15]: In our procurement policies. [2:51:15, 2:51:16]: in mals. [2:51:17, 2:51:19]: А just wanted us to enforce it. [2:51:19, 2:51:21]: By resolution. [2:51:21, 2:51:23]: But if we proceed with the [2:51:23, 2:51:25]: Changes to this procurement ordinance. [2:51:26, 2:51:27]: It was superced. [2:51:27, 2:51:29]: Both the procurement policy [2:51:30, 2:51:32]: And the resolution, and I'm fine with that. [2:51:33, 2:51:33]: Yeah. [2:51:35, 2:51:38]: Thank you. Uh next is J Jerry, real quick. [2:51:39, 2:51:42]: In the original uh procurement manual [2:51:43, 2:52:03]: You did not have to put uh anything out to rebid if you didn't get three. That was not in our original procurement manual. I looked it over when it pertained to this, when the mayor vetoed the the the the uh ordinance and it became a resolution. That was not in even in the original procurement. What was added into the [2:52:03, 2:52:07]: the procurement was the r uh procurement procurement process [2:52:07, 2:52:12]: Воз давай за деман тоді, ч<unk>м з агенс стетла. [2:52:13, 2:52:17]: And mandates and which you have corrected in this one. Let me just make that clear. [2:52:22, 2:52:23]: So Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [2:52:25, 2:52:28]: Once again, the statement [2:52:29, 2:52:34]: requiring or requesting three responsive bidders was already included. [2:52:35, 2:52:38]: In the procurement manual in our policies. [2:52:38, 2:52:40]: А вон consistency. [2:52:41, 2:52:43]: The statement was already included. [2:52:44, 2:52:45]: А вона consistency. [2:52:45, 2:52:48]: So therefore brought forth a resolution. [2:52:49, 2:52:52]: So that there would be consistency. [2:52:54, 2:52:56]: That's all. I want that for the record. [2:52:57, 2:52:58]: Mr. Berry, please. [2:53:00, 2:53:17]: On uh section uh page five creating a bid protest re remedy. Right now the city does not have a bid protest remedy whereby if if someone bids on on the procurement and they lose, uh they don't have any legal way to challenge it other than taking the city to court. [2:53:17, 2:53:26]: Um I'd like to and a lot of a lot of cities have this, a process whereby a losing bidder can challenge the award and say [2:53:27, 2:53:36]: You know, I had a better proposal or the city scored me wrong, or whatever it may be, and hopefully actually avoid lit litigation by having an informal process. [2:53:36, 2:53:51]: uh you know, allowing bidders to to challenge the process because right now if a a a bidder that loses, their only option is actually to take the city to court and this creates a uh another mechanism whereby the city hopefully could avoid lawsuits. [2:53:52, 2:54:12]: Um the next on page six is requiring thirty days notice before a bid, partly just to increase the number of people, uh number of bidders for a procurement, and then also saying that best and final offers can be used if it says so in the actual procurement document. So that's you know just putting in a a best practice. [2:54:13, 2:54:19]: Next on page seven is that the city council excuse me needs to a w approve [2:54:20, 2:54:40]: All contracts above fifty thousand dollars and with that uh the the council should have a copy of the proposed contract, all attachments and all other accompanying documents. That information needs to be provided to the city council for review. Uh and the next is is just stating simpl just cleaning up that the procurement. [2:54:40, 2:54:45]: manager can reject bids when it's in the best interest of the city to do so. [2:54:45, 2:55:05]: Next change is on page eight and we just have a couple more. Uh is just regarding who serves on the evaluation committee. Just saying that there should be no fewer than three members to have members from different city departments, and then making clear that legal counsel cannot serve as a member of the evaluation committee but can be consulted uh [2:55:07, 2:55:10]: You know, the consulted as needed. [2:55:11, 2:55:30]: Uh next is just in terms of sort of where documents go and the the routing of of contracts and reports. The first change is saying that the city clerk, once contracts have been returned from the contractor and reviewed by the purchasing representative, contracts are routed to the clerk who then distributes them for signing. [2:55:30, 2:55:50]: Um all final procurement documents and notices to proceed and all the like should be sent to the city clerk who shall be the official custodian of record for those documents. Section C says that the procurement division actually keeps the procurement file, so all the the bids, the evaluations, that stuff, but that the clerk [2:55:50, 2:56:10]: keeps the the signed contracts. Uh at the bottom of that D says that contractors shall be required to provide regular reports and updates, either in person or written on the status, their contract performance to the city manager, and then the city manager can update counsel as needed on a regular basis. And the final uh [2:56:10, 2:56:12]: Um change is [2:56:13, 2:56:31]: Saying that any change order greater than fifty thousand dollars for a contract term needs to be approved by the council. I think that's twenty-five thousand dollars right now. And also increasing the city manager's authority to fifty thousand dollars uh for all change order up to fifty thousand dollars for all change orders before council approval. [2:56:33, 2:56:46]: So those are the the changes as drafted. As I mentioned, I know Council M woman Barber had a few edits as well. I don't know if you wanna mention those or or how you wanna handle, but those are what I've prepared. [2:56:47, 2:56:50]: Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. Thank you. [2:56:50, 2:56:51]: Yes. [2:56:53, 2:57:05]: And thank you, Mr. Berry, for finally um bringing these changes forward to us. Slow and steady we got here. Um at least for the full council to discuss it. [2:57:05, 2:57:06]: Although it's only [2:57:07, 2:57:08]: Three council members here who [2:57:09, 2:57:10]: who are present to vote on this. [2:57:10, 2:57:15]: One of the changes on page seven that you mentioned. [2:57:15, 2:57:21]: In regards to council to consider all contracts above fifty thousand and be provided draft contracts. [2:57:23, 2:57:26]: Um I wanted us to specify [2:57:26, 2:57:42]: Um with the city manager's authorization up to fifty thousand dollars. Um and if I may ask, Mr. Gardner, I know we discussed this at our last meeting with your increased spending authorization of fifty thousand. [2:57:42, 2:57:47]: I like to ask a couple of questions um with you and Mr. Beary. [2:57:48, 2:57:56]: Just for clarity, um, at our last meeting I asked specifically for criteria because I wanted to understand. [2:57:57, 2:57:59]: Which expenses um [2:58:00, 2:58:05]: Would the city manager be allowed to spend up to fifty thousand dollars? [2:58:06, 2:58:15]: That's important because with capital improvement projects, you get a lot of change orders, task orders, work orders. [2:58:15, 2:58:16]: So [2:58:16, 2:58:17]: Yeah. [2:58:17, 2:58:21]: We move forward with the конструкции культура арт синтер. [2:58:22, 2:58:26]: І the very first pass order or change order that you receive. [2:58:27, 2:58:28]: It's forty nine thousand. [2:58:28, 2:58:31]: Nine hundred and ninety nine dollars. [2:58:31, 2:58:33]: You are authorized to approve that. [2:58:35, 2:58:38]: The next change order in regards to the culture arts center. [2:58:39, 2:58:42]: If it is one hundred dollars. [2:58:43, 2:58:45]: What will you do with it? [2:58:46, 2:58:48]: If it excuse me. [2:58:51, 2:59:00]: Yeah, I was hoping I was keeping up with your numbers. If that one hundred dollar addition crosses that fifty thousand and it comes to you for approval. [2:59:00, 2:59:12]: I wanna make sure that there is a clear understanding of that. I think we I think we're very clear that that's what we're going to do to make sure that we don't have an accumulation of task orders and they all ex [2:59:12, 2:59:30]: They all fit under that fifty, but accumulatively they go above. Um we're not gonna do that. And we're gonna bring that before you guys for approval. But I also think correct me if I wrong, Jeremy, there was a provision in there that it there's a percentage up to percentage on the change orders that still make it comes back to you guys anyway. [2:59:31, 2:59:37]: I just want to make sure that the ordinance that Mister Berry is able to capture that. [2:59:37, 2:59:43]: in the revised ordinance to ensure that that criteria is clear. [2:59:45, 2:59:48]: Fifty thousand dollars is just that. [2:59:49, 2:59:51]: Anything over and above that? [2:59:52, 2:59:58]: It would not be authorized for the city manager to approve it. It would need to come back to the council. [2:59:58, 3:00:05]: That's why I was asking about the accumulation of change orders, task order orders, work orders. [3:00:05, 3:00:11]: I don't want to be sitting here with another example of what we went through with the cost overruns of the amphitheater. [3:00:12, 3:00:16]: So we have to find ways to mitigate those situations. [3:00:16, 3:00:17]: That's one. [3:00:18, 3:00:20]: The other one um was on page eight. [3:00:21, 3:00:34]: In reference to ensuring evaluation committee is independent. I know in the past the city's attorney was a member of the evaluation committee. I'm glad that we are changing that. [3:00:35, 3:00:42]: I also suggested that the committees consist of no less than five members. [3:00:42, 3:00:48]: Um and I'd like to see us increase that from three to five. [3:00:50, 3:00:52]: We're going back to these pages. [3:00:53, 3:00:55]: The next proposed change [3:00:55, 3:00:57]: On page nine. [3:00:58, 3:01:01]: Is the contract routing and reports from contractors? [3:01:03, 3:01:04]: The very first [3:01:05, 3:01:06]: Bullet point. [3:01:06, 3:01:10]: Because all three of these paragraphs well two of them you have [3:01:10, 3:01:15]: The letter C, so I don't know. Sorry, that that was just a formatting issue, I apologize. Okay. [3:01:16, 3:01:19]: So the very first thing for the sі clerk's office. [3:01:19, 3:01:23]: Um they are the official custodian of reкор. [3:01:23, 3:01:31]: So all fully executed contracts, whether they are routed by the city clerk's office. [3:01:31, 3:01:35]: Or whether they are routed and approved by our procurement. [3:01:35, 3:01:36]: Department. [3:01:37, 3:01:49]: All fully executed contracts should go to the city clerk's office, who is the city's custodial of record. I want that to be clear. [3:01:49, 3:01:51]: Because I see in [3:01:51, 3:01:52]: The next section C [3:01:53, 3:01:54]: For a procurement department. [3:01:55, 3:01:58]: You have them designated as the legal custodian. [3:01:59, 3:02:01]: of the procurement file there [3:02:02, 3:02:03]: Two separate things. [3:02:04, 3:02:06]: The procurement department they do. [3:02:06, 3:02:09]: and should have their own procurement [3:02:09, 3:02:13]: File that includes fully executed contracts. [3:02:14, 3:02:18]: Along with responses to solicitations and those kinds of things. [3:02:19, 3:02:20]: But be fully [3:02:21, 3:02:22]: Executed contracts. [3:02:22, 3:02:23]: Uh [3:02:23, 3:02:24]: All procurements. [3:02:25, 3:02:27]: All contracts that are signed by the city. [3:02:28, 3:02:29]: should be afforded. [3:02:30, 3:02:36]: To the city clerk's office. I just want to make sure that there is a clear distinction of fully [3:02:36, 3:02:38]: ексекути контракт. [3:02:38, 3:02:39]: to the city clerk's office. [3:02:43, 3:02:50]: And page number ten, that is the council approval the the change order. We just talked about that. So that covers. [3:02:51, 3:02:54]: If you would please specify or [3:02:55, 3:02:56]: I guess. [3:02:56, 3:02:58]: Prepare a language that is clear. [3:02:59, 3:03:04]: clearly defined that the city manager spending authorization um [3:03:04, 3:03:05]: Is [3:03:06, 3:03:08]: Warranted for [3:03:08, 3:03:13]: uh capital improvement projects but it's limited specifically to [3:03:14, 3:03:15]: A task order. [3:03:15, 3:03:17]: That does not exceed [3:03:18, 3:03:19]: Fifty thousand dollars. [3:03:20, 3:03:22]: No accumulations. [3:03:25, 3:03:28]: And we talked about it so you kinda understand where I'm going with that. [3:03:29, 3:03:31]: And that's all I have. Thank you. [3:03:33, 3:03:34]: Okay, Mr Brunt, go ahead, please. [3:03:36, 3:03:39]: Um Jerry, sir. [3:03:40, 3:03:44]: The way you set up this procurement document. [3:03:45, 3:03:52]: Does is it bind does it keep us out of legal problems, the way you've written it up? I believe so. [3:03:53, 3:03:56]: Then I want I would like to approve the document as written. [3:03:57, 3:03:58]: That's my emotion. [3:03:59, 3:04:09]: Okay, is there a second to the motion? Second. Mr. Alzheimer's uh seconds that motion. Black plenty of discussion. Unless you have a comment, you have a comment, sir? Yeah. Go ahead, please. [3:04:10, 3:04:11]: Um [3:04:11, 3:04:15]: Mr. Bear, I know the motion was as written. [3:04:15, 3:04:23]: I know the motion was as as written. It seemed like there were some modification here today, so [3:04:23, 3:04:24]: Um [3:04:24, 3:04:29]: Which as written or with modification. I know the motion didn't include that, but [3:04:30, 3:04:34]: I I kept hearing some modifications, so can you speak to the end of that? [3:04:35, 3:04:36]: Do I need to clarify my m my motion? [3:04:37, 3:04:50]: I understood the motion. I I will try and answer it this way. I I I think as written was very good. I think the suggested edits are some issues that I hadn't thought about that will also improve. [3:04:50, 3:05:03]: i improve the the ordinance, uh the proposed edit ordinance. I I think what I've written is very good. I think what Councilmember Barber all uh offered is also very good uh and would be helpful. [3:05:04, 3:05:08]: My my motion stands as stated as you've written the [3:05:09, 3:05:29]: As you've written it, we have too much stuff going on with us to keep interjecting the procurement process. As you've written it, would keep us out of litigation, keep us, keep it clean, and we remove the resolution. So that's my that's my motion. Remove my second. Mayor? Second. Yes, yes, sir. Well let me ask this question. Uh with the modification. [3:05:29, 3:05:33]: would it also keep us out of potential litigation? [3:05:34, 3:05:39]: I would like to think so that all of these would. Okay. I would like to think so. [3:05:39, 3:05:40]: All right, thank you. [3:05:41, 3:05:48]: I'm uh mayor. Yes, sir. I'd like to make a motion to approve the procurement changes with the recommendations. [3:05:49, 3:05:51]: Okay, is there a second in a motion? [3:05:51, 3:05:52]: Ah second. [3:05:52, 3:05:57]: All right. Motion's been seconded. We've had a lot of discussion. All in favor of that motion, please indicate. [3:05:59, 3:06:02]: Uh all opposed. Three, four, all pose? Just [3:06:02, 3:06:13]: For clarity, yeah. What's that hold on a second? I got three off three confirmations. Uh you opposed, sir? Uh I just stand. So three zero one the motion passed. [3:06:13, 3:06:21]: I think I heard a question. Three zero one motion passed. You further s the question, sir? No, I thought of question being. Okay, three zero one motion passed. Yes, ma'am. [3:06:22, 3:06:25]: Just for clarity I want to make sure um councilman [3:06:26, 3:06:44]: Alexander, the modifications, are you talking about modifications that I just mentioned? Correct. That's what he said. I think that's what the clerk got. He said, could you read just out of clarifying it passed three zero one. Just read it back, make sure that everybody understands exactly what the motion was. I'm pretty sure what she's asked for is what happened. [3:06:58, 3:07:06]: You said read the motion or I said read the motion. You don't have to go through if you just the motion. I'm pretty sure you got all just read the r the motion because [3:07:10, 3:07:15]: Can modifications as suggested by Councilwoman Barber? [3:07:25, 3:07:27]: All of those are included. [3:07:30, 3:07:31]: I think what you're asking for was covered. [3:07:32, 3:07:33]: Yes. What you're asking for was cover. [3:07:33, 3:07:35]: Everything's covered. [3:07:36, 3:07:37]: In my emotion. [3:07:37, 3:07:39]: I included those items. [3:07:40, 3:07:43]: I want to make sure that it is specific. [3:07:44, 3:07:47]: to the recommendations I just made. [3:07:50, 3:07:50]: Thank you. [3:07:51, 3:07:51]: Thank you. [3:07:52, 3:08:07]: All right. Once again, we'll move on. That is it. We got uh Mr. Berry, thank you for sir. Appreciate it. Thank you. We have uh my com that's last it so I got my comments here. And today, May 31st, 2022. [3:08:08, 3:08:22]: goes down in the history of the city of Stockbridge because we did something today that hadn't been done in over forty plus years in the city where we swore in police officers or police staff and that's outstanding. Outstanding activity today. Outstanding [3:08:22, 3:08:26]: I I I will stand for that as well. Outstanding. Outstanding. [3:08:31, 3:08:51]: Obviously this this uh city has been without its own police department for a long time. And uh we're making moves, as I mentioned earlier today in my comments for folks that are there personally, uh that in the nine this is my ninth year, that this is something we've been talking about for a while, and we actually move forward with this and getting it done. And thanks to the our selection of Chief Trammer and his leadership. [3:08:51, 3:09:07]: This admin team doing great things. We're moving forward. And I tell you it's it's fantastic. And I can't wait till we continue to move on and do great things. And and uh Chief, lead lead lead the charge, Chief, is yours. Lead the charge. We'll we'll we're gonna follow you. We're gonna take care of you, right? You and your staff. [3:09:08, 3:09:28]: All right, I want to mention to you something a good news story as well. Uh there's a young man named Michael Harris that was at Startbridge High School, played baseball for Stockbridge High School, and he got uh drafted in the Braves organization a couple years ago. And I just a few I think with the last week, he got caught up out of the minors, got stationed. [3:09:28, 3:09:42]: with the Braves and he's playing center field for the Braves right now and he's doing outstanding. And I think I want to congratulate him on doing some great a Star Bris guy playing for his home team and on the National Uh Baseball League. So spectacular catch. [3:09:43, 3:10:03]: He he play he plays for uh uh he plays center field. Yes sir. He's number three at back. He got on base and he was the only scorer of his first game back. So I just wanted to give him all the problem. Okay, excuse me. Truth, there you go. Outstanding. That's outstanding that that uh that has definitely occurred in this aspect. Well I tell you I'm I'm out [3:10:03, 3:10:23]: even know him but I think I'd like to meet him someday personally. As you well know folks uh the the pandemic is still going on uh so as as usual I I try to remind folks to be mindful and um you know wear your mask if you feel that you need to do so but what's more importantly you need to get vaccinated if you haven't been get boosted if you need that boosted once already [3:10:23, 3:10:24]: You can get boosted again. [3:10:25, 3:10:45]: And uh if you feel that you need to get tested, please do so. You can always go to the public health department. And uh right here it's in Madonna, Monday to Friday, 9 a.m. to 1130 p.m. or 1 p.m. to two to two thirty p.m. uh to get uh get actually vaccinated. All right. And then uh that's 470-664. [3:10:45, 3:11:05]: 0005. Once again, 470-664-0005. And to get tested, you can also go to Red Hawk Field, which is on Harry Parkway, down the street from the public health department. And that's Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. And that's 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. in this aspect as well. So please do so. [3:11:05, 3:11:25]: And obviously there's a lot of different uh uh drugstores and places and hospitals and clinics that will test you and or give you the vaccinations. Please do so and be safe for you health-wise. And earlier this evening, uh the her name was mentioned, but I wanted to bring her up here. We now have a new uh executive assistant to the mayor of council, Miss Rosin Rowles. [3:11:25, 3:11:28]: Come on up please. Come on up, get on camera, okay? [3:11:32, 3:11:52]: Welcome, welcome. Come on, come on to the mic. Welcome. Don't be shy there, lady. You're gonna be here for several, several years, okay? So I just want to congratulate you on being selected and and I'm I'm obviously the council knows who you are and and want to appreciate you and glad that you're here and and to help us uh continue to move the city forward. And right now, if you have any words, please speak into the mic. [3:11:51, 3:12:09]: Mike and and and uh you know introduce yourself to everybody else. Oh yes, I am Rosalyn Rawls. I'm happy to be here um to serve the citizens and also I'm a citizen, so I'm serving myself as I'm serving others, and I'm just glad to have the opportunity to work with everybody and the citizens. [3:12:09, 3:12:12]: Fantastic. Welcome. Welcome aboard. [3:12:12, 3:12:12]: Yeah. [3:12:16, 3:12:36]: On that note, let me go to some announcements of upcoming meetings. So the call to council meetings uh court as you see now be met uh in the council chamber. And uh some board meetings and committee meetings will also be here in the council chamber, but some are by Zoom. So let me go through this. Let's see. Any updates, of course, will be on the Facebook page or contact city hall at 770-0. [3:12:36, 3:12:44]: Council meeting is course second Monday of each month. City Council Chamber. Next one is June 13th. [3:12:44, 3:12:53]: The youth council meetings in 5:30 p.m., second Wednesday of each month in a Levi meeting room and right here in City Hall. And that next one is June 8th. [3:12:53, 3:13:13]: The Main Street Advisory Board meeting the second Friday of each month at 9 a.m. by way of Zoom. June 10th is that next meeting. The Downtown Development Authority meeting at 6 p.m. by way of Zoom, third Tuesday of each month by way of Zoom, then that'll be the 21st of uh June. Youth Council Advisory Committee meeting at 6:30 p.m. uh third Tuesday of each month in the Levi meeting room and that'll be [3:13:13, 3:13:26]: be in City Hall on June twenty first. The City Council work sessions uh uh will be one Wednesday Wednesday yeah Wednesday Wednesday uh the city council meeting uh uh back up forward one second here. [3:13:26, 3:13:28]: Okay. City Council Work Session Meeting. [3:13:29, 3:13:38]: Uh special meeting date on Wednesday and the council chairman's on the twenty ninth of June. That's because it will be we'll be in GMA from the twenty fourth to the twenty eighth in Savannah, Georgia. [3:13:38, 3:13:41]: So that's why it is on that uh Wednesday the twenty ninth. [3:13:42, 3:13:48]: Okay. Planning commission meeting four thir uh fourth Thursday at six thirty by way of Zoom on the twenty third. [3:13:48, 3:13:49]: Oh June. [3:13:49, 3:14:09]: Uh then the upcoming city type uh city events and initiatives, a continuous salute to veterans and uh please forward those uh pictures of veterans, including name, branch, rank, and services, years of service as Mirapal Tim Thomas presents a special tribute to all our local veterans. And I want to thank everybody for participating and giving homage to all our uh military personnel that. [3:14:09, 3:14:25]: that are given an ultimate sacrifice of the lives for protecting and serving the country, because freedom isn't free, and we honored them in this aspect on a yesterday matter of fact on Memorial Day activity we had here in the city. [3:14:25, 3:14:45]: Um and I've already mentioned my ro well you can come to Rosalind Rawls in reference to this you met her at R R A W L S the City of Stockbridge dash G A dot G O V in reference to information for additional um veterans to be honored by Mayor Pro Tem Thomas. Uh every Saturday, pre Zuma classes every Saturday. [3:14:45, 3:14:53]: Councilman Barmer will uh will have that at Clark Park uh at 8 p.m. uh come on out for free fitness in the park. [3:14:53, 3:14:58]: And uh have we have here join us on Tuesday, uh June fourteenth, uh [3:14:58, 3:15:18]: For Tasty Tuesday, 5:30, 830. Come on out and enjoy a great family food and fun. And uh join me, uh or join Mayor Mayor me, Mayor Mayor Ford and Clergy Roundtable, Tuesday, June 7th, 6:30 at uh City Hall. We'll be meeting in person in the Levi Meeting Room and contact Ross and Ross once again at 770-389-7900. [3:15:18, 3:15:38]: hundred attention two forty eight for more for more information. And uh we have come out and meet your Stockbridge Police Department for a public safety event Saturday, June 11th. Right in an amphitheater at from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. in an amphitheater parking lot, there'll be vehicles on display, a bounce house for kids, DJ face painting games for [3:15:38, 3:15:58]: food trucks and cotton candy ice cream giveaways and informational uh information from uh vendors that are out there as well and uh an op opportunity to uh meet the meet the mayor meet the council voice your questions and concerns uh wednesday twenty ninth uh twenty twenty [3:15:58, 3:16:18]: two from ten a.m. to okay this is for me for meet to mayor on 29th of june thank you ladies for for putting this in here right twenty ninth of june twenty twenty two ten a.m to noon and meet in person uh with me and to uh talk over the issues and concerns and once again you can call Roslyn Rawls at 770-389-7900-2007. [3:16:18, 3:16:38]: And extension 248. And uh we've got Mayor Pro Tem here for the sip and see tour of the city's amphitheater Wednesday, June 21st, 4 p.m. to 7 p.m. An opportunity for the community to see seating layout and get information about upcoming events. And uh we'll have live music by DJ Skills. Is that Skills? I guess. [3:16:38, 3:16:58]: Yes, that's right, uh while you sip and see the amphitheater. On that note, it's all the announcements and uh council activities. And ladies and gentlemen, council, we actually have we need to have a zecular session. There is one item uh deals with a legal issue that I'm informed of that we need to talk about. So I need a motion to go in the zechlor session, please. Uh I'm sorry, Mr. Gardner. [3:16:58, 3:17:00]: No? Okay. [3:17:00, 3:17:04]: Excuse me. Nolan Voyd, I need a motion to adjourn our meeting. [3:17:05, 3:17:06]: Sumulu. [3:17:07, 3:17:10]: Mr Mr Memor ten seconds then all favor, please indicate. [3:17:11, 3:17:14]: And now she's saying, Good night everybody. Enjoy the rest of your evening.

--- title: Downtown Development Authority date: 2022-05-17 source: 2022-05-17_Downtown_Development_Authority.wav --- [0:00:02, 0:00:09]: Uh good evening. This is Roger Custon and this is our May uh Downtown Development Authority meeting and um [0:00:10, 0:00:15]: Welcome. And we will go ahead and start with roll call. Um Bob, will you go ahead and call roll police? [0:00:16, 0:00:17]: Okay. Uh Roger Custon. [0:00:18, 0:00:18]: Here? Here. [0:00:19, 0:00:21]: Uh Councilman Alexander. [0:00:21, 0:00:22]: President. [0:00:22, 0:00:22]: Yeah. [0:00:24, 0:00:26]: Uh uh Maxwell Sears. [0:00:27, 0:00:28]: Yeah, yeah, right, yeah. [0:00:29, 0:00:30]: Uh Bob Swagert is here. [0:00:31, 0:00:33]: Um Samiqua King. [0:00:35, 0:00:36]: Uh and [0:00:37, 0:00:38]: The Barber Richardson. [0:00:39, 0:00:40]: And [0:00:40, 0:00:41]: Frangelo. [0:00:45, 0:01:05]: Yeah, and I'll go ahead and note that um it's Frangela Merritt. I believe she was given the uh the credentials. Um we haven't heard from Barber Richardson, but we do have four members present, so that does constitute a quorum. So we'll go ahead and open up the meeting officially at 6.03. Thank you, everybody. Um [0:01:05, 0:01:25]: So uh first thing on the agenda is to approve today's agenda and I'd like to motion to add the social media campaign proposal uh to the agenda under new business. So we'll put it as item D, David, under new business. And thank you. And with that, uh [0:01:25, 0:01:30]: Um, are there any other discussion on the agenda? Changes? [0:01:31, 0:01:32]: Right. Um [0:01:34, 0:01:38]: And Barber's about to join. So give her a second. Hi Barber. [0:01:39, 0:01:40]: Hello. [0:01:41, 0:01:51]: Um, I just made a motion and councilman seconded to add to the agenda the um social media campaign proposal. Um, so is there any discussion? [0:01:54, 0:02:01]: And all those in favor, please say yes or raise your hand. All right, that seems to be unanimous. Thank you. [0:02:02, 0:02:13]: And uh next item on the agenda is to approve the April nineteenth meeting minutes, which I sent to everyone uh today. So um if we could have a motion to approve the April meeting minutes, please. [0:02:14, 0:02:14]: Тому [0:02:15, 0:02:16]: Thank you, Councilman. [0:02:18, 0:02:18]: Second. [0:02:19, 0:02:20]: Thank you, Bob. [0:02:20, 0:02:21]: Any discussion? [0:02:26, 0:02:32]: All right. All those in favor to approve the April meeting minutes, please raise your hand or say yes. [0:02:33, 0:02:35]: Uh Mr. Sears. [0:02:37, 0:02:37]: Yes. [0:02:38, 0:02:44]: All right, thank you. And Barber, do I take that as your abstaining? All right, thank you. [0:02:45, 0:03:05]: So we'll go ahead and move on. So um the first uh first I wanted to mention that uh Frangela uh Merritt has joined as the newest downtown development authority member. I don't see that she is on the call, uh, but I did send her the link. Um so [0:03:05, 0:03:21]: And I did speak to her a little while ago to join the meeting. So I'll um in any case, I want if she does join, I'll give her a few minutes to uh say hello. But uh that was the main thing I wanted to. Excuse me, but she's in the chat saying she's here. Oh, very good. Let me let me bring her in. Hold on. Thank you for that, Vanessa. [0:03:23, 0:03:24]: All right. [0:03:26, 0:03:27]: List. [0:03:29, 0:03:32]: All right, Miss Merritt, you should be able to speak. [0:03:33, 0:03:36]: Hello, I'm turning my camera on right now. [0:03:36, 0:03:46]: Excellent. All right. Great timing. Thanks for joining. And uh we see you and hear you. Excellent. Thank you. Hello. Hi everyone. [0:03:46, 0:03:48]: Yeah, welcome above. [0:03:48, 0:04:06]: Good. It is so uh uh such a privilege and honor to be here and it's so great to meet each and every one of you on the panel. And and I did Roger, I did remember you did send me a panelist link and I chose the wrong link, right? So I'll get better the next time we meet. [0:04:07, 0:04:27]: That's fine. Um, you want to go ahead and uh tell us a little bit about yourself and your background and why you chose to join the DDA? Absolutely, absolutely. A little bit about myself. Um, it's been a Stockbridge um residence since 2004. So it will be 18 years in July of this year. And um listen, I have a [0:04:27, 0:04:44]: political science background or degree. And of course, um, you know, we don't do anything with those, but I'm mentioning that to say that I've always been particularly interested into um politics, civics, government. Um, and so I would definitely stay abreast of things. I just never was as [0:04:44, 0:04:53]: Uh active as I think I should have been. So I always would say I should have done done this a lot sooner than now, right? In a much younger age. But [0:04:54, 0:05:11]: 18 years here. Um occupation. I work full-time as a global supply chain manager at ATT, which is actually a promotion. I just um started this month. Um so it's been super hectic, you know, um for me. Um what else? I [0:05:11, 0:05:12]: Just [0:05:13, 0:05:33]: I just registered an LLC called Catil Enterprises as of last year, but that will definitely be mediation services. I don't mind sharing that with you. I have not started that yet, but it's but you know, I'm definitely my LLC is definitely registered there. So um a future business owner, if you will. [0:05:33, 0:05:34]: What else? Um [0:05:35, 0:05:37]: Also very active in the community. [0:05:38, 0:05:39]: Starting with [0:05:40, 0:06:00]: My role as president over the Network Metro Atlanta chapter, which is an ATT employee resource group, which is a thing now. It's about diversity and inclusion. But we actually run our operations or our business is a non-for-profit, 501c3. So we do a lot of [0:06:00, 0:06:06]: community service work um and have a lot of community partners in the metro atlanta area. [0:06:07, 0:06:13]: I'm trying to bring it south of Atlanta for sure. Um, some of our services. And then last but definitely not least, um [0:06:13, 0:06:28]: I am a member of the Motherless Daughters Foundation, which is a uh headquartered here in College Park. But of course, it's an organization that the beneficiary or the benefactors or uh those who are benefiting from that would be young girls between the ages of [0:06:28, 0:06:30]: Nine years old. [0:06:30, 0:06:35]: And even through college now, of course, um their mothers are not in their lives either through [0:06:36, 0:06:39]: They're passing away or through drug use or mental health. [0:06:39, 0:06:45]: And of course us old ladies like to you know lend a helping hand whenever we can and [0:06:45, 0:06:51]: And I guess in my role, because I work for ATT and I do a lot of STEM related things. [0:06:51, 0:06:53]: You know, I particularly [0:06:53, 0:06:59]: mentor those girls on STEM related fields and topics and expose them to those type of things. So [0:06:59, 0:07:01]: I think that's a that's [0:07:02, 0:07:05]: You know, uh well, single, no children. [0:07:05, 0:07:18]: Um, so of course I'm always free, right? Um, and again, it's definitely a pleasure and an honor to be a part of this board and I am so ready to serve. So thank you for having me. [0:07:19, 0:07:25]: Thank you for being here. Um, does anyone have any questions or anything for uh Frangela? [0:07:26, 0:07:27]: Thank you for sharing. [0:07:28, 0:07:30]: Yes, welcome, welcome. Thank you so much. [0:07:31, 0:07:43]: And and I'll second the same to welcome, welcome you to the uh the DDA and uh thank you for um stepping up and volunteering your service to the DDA and the good people of Stockbridge. Absolutely. [0:07:45, 0:07:56]: All right. Um, so that uh we'll go ahead and move to the next item on the agenda. Barber, um I I didn't see the financial report in advance of the meeting. Do you wanna give us any update? [0:07:59, 0:08:00]: And you're on mute. [0:08:00, 0:08:08]: Okay, yes. And I I did send those over to you a bit late. My apologies. I can share my space. Can I share? Yeah. Yeah, please, please do. [0:08:08, 0:08:12]: Um sorry about that. Well no, that's that's totally on me. It's been a day. [0:08:12, 0:08:13]: Um [0:08:13, 0:08:17]: Let me hold on, let me make sure you can share. You should be able to do it now. [0:08:20, 0:08:21]: Okay. [0:08:24, 0:08:26]: And everyone confirm that they can see my screen. [0:08:27, 0:08:32]: I can see your screen. Okay, so I um missed March meeting, uh, but [0:08:33, 0:08:38]: So we'll talk about March and April combined. Very uneventful. We did have a twenty-five dollar [0:08:38, 0:08:42]: Source of revenue. I think this was the option fee that um [0:08:43, 0:08:52]: we received from the surveying transaction that took place last year. So for the month of March, uh that was the only source of income, the twenty-five dollar option fee. [0:08:53, 0:09:01]: And we did not have um any uh unusual expenses, just the monthly forty dollar Zoom expense. So [0:09:02, 0:09:14]: For net income on the month of March of 15 net loss rather than$15. Um, April, uh no income, and then again the same$40 uh monthly. [0:09:14, 0:09:15]: Expanse per zone. [0:09:16, 0:09:36]: So year to date so far from January through April, we do have total revenues of$45,025, which consists of our intergovernmental uh grant from the city, as well as a$25 option fee or the sources of revenue and then expenses. So far, we've only incurred uh bank fee as well as the month fee. [0:09:36, 0:09:38]: monthly zone charge. [0:09:40, 0:09:46]: Net income year to date so far,$44,860. Any questions before I move on? [0:09:48, 0:09:49]: Okay. [0:09:50, 0:09:55]: Talk about our balance sheet here. Um, as it stands, as of April 30th, we do have. [0:09:56, 0:10:02]: And the facade grant checking account,$119,827.5. [0:10:03, 0:10:23]: In the operating accounts, we have$59,039 and eight cents. Um, this is for total cash balance of$178,866.13. I do want to make a note here that um these dollar amounts between the accounts. [0:10:23, 0:10:24]: Are gonna change. [0:10:25, 0:10:28]: Just a little, and that's because for whatever reason. [0:10:29, 0:10:40]: Um, we have a debit card by which we're paying multiple fees on, and that debit card is linked to the facade grant account instead of the operating account. [0:10:40, 0:10:47]: I initiated a request with the bank for another debit card, which we did receive. [0:10:47, 0:11:07]: And lo and behold, that card also is linked to the facade grant, although I specifically ask for a debit card for the operating account. So I just gonna go in and make the transfer each time the$40 comes out of the facade grant account, I just transfer it back into it out of the operating account. [0:11:07, 0:11:20]: So I won't let you know, let you know that if you see these numbers change, the facade grant, particularly right now, is just because there's$40 coming in and out as Zoom takes it out and then I put it back. [0:11:22, 0:11:25]: So that's our cash balance there. [0:11:25, 0:11:26]: Uh [0:11:26, 0:11:40]: Prior month was$178,906 and 13 cents, which is a$40 change from current month,$40 reduction. And again, that represents the monthly Zoom fee. [0:11:40, 0:11:48]: As far as upcoming expenses, I didn't put in, well, we have the monthly Zoom fee, but I have noticed that there is a$589 fee. [0:11:49, 0:11:50]: That [0:11:50, 0:11:53]: It's pending for Zoom. It won't happen until May. [0:11:53, 0:11:56]: Um and I think that's just out an annual fee. [0:11:56, 0:12:10]: Roger Matt correct, is that an annual fee that we pay for Zoom? That's that's right. The forty dollar monthly is the um the add-on for our data storage. Yeah. And the uh annual fee will will come in in May. That's right. [0:12:11, 0:12:17]: Um one other thing that's not here and I don't even know if we needed to vote to have this on the agenda, so we did please. [0:12:18, 0:12:25]: Tell me I'm out of order and we can address it there. Is um there's a couple of up couple upcoming DDA trainings. Um [0:12:26, 0:12:33]: I don't know if anyone else is interested. I did send out a correspondence. Uh it's been a while now, but I um got a confirmation. [0:12:33, 0:12:53]: Oh well yesterday that the fee is$275 and it's gonna be making August 24th or 25th. Um there is one that's happening in June, June 24th, unfortunately, that sold out very fast. So not even time to discuss or register, but for August 24th or [0:12:53, 0:12:54]: If I'll confirm. [0:12:54, 0:13:02]: That is$275 per attendee and the offering is a beginning beginning DDA training or advanced DDA training. [0:13:02, 0:13:05]: I know I am personally interested in in going. [0:13:05, 0:13:08]: So whatever the protocol is for that to [0:13:09, 0:13:27]: Maybe we need to add that to, I don't know, meeting next month or I don't know how if we need to vote on it, but I'm raising my hand that I do want to attend that. And so that could be a future upcoming expense for myself as well as anyone else who may want to attend. Um and that training is in August and Macon and it's a one-day training. [0:13:29, 0:13:30]: But if there are no other questions. [0:13:31, 0:13:35]: Um well are there any questions about the cash or the balance sheet? [0:13:36, 0:13:56]: Um let me, if I may, I'll go ahead and address the part about the training. What we've done in past years when we've had um especially offsite or significant expense, we come up with a not to exceed budget. And just for, you know, just for clarity and we put it on record in in in in advance that we'll say, you know, we'll approve a certain amount of budget for [0:13:56, 0:14:05]: Not to exceed a certain amount, and which of course uh stay within that. Um, the other thing, and and I would encourage [0:14:05, 0:14:25]: everyone to attend um you know and to keep the retraining of the of the DDA uh even if you know most all of us except for uh Ms. Merritt um has taken the DDA training. Most of us, I believe, has also taken the advanced training. But it's good to stay current with that because there's a lot of inf [0:14:25, 0:14:45]: Those courses are packed with information. It's important to remember all of the details so that we can do the best we can in developing the downtown. The other thing I'll add is we do need to allow for a certain amount of money for training for Ms. Merritt's training. [0:14:45, 0:15:00]: So she'll be required to take the training. And uh Vanessa, we normally um you and your team usually um you know check out what the next available training is and and the city staff helps to coordinate that. Is that is that right? [0:15:01, 0:15:10]: That's correct. I did hear Ms. Richardson say that you do want to attend a training in August. Miss Mary, will you be attending that training in August of 12? [0:15:10, 0:15:15]: And I believe Mr. Swiger said that he was attending, but I think he got in for June. Is that correct? [0:15:18, 0:15:20]: I'm assuming in June, yeah. [0:15:20, 0:15:25]: So have you already processed all of your paperwork or do we need to do that for you? [0:15:31, 0:15:34]: This was I think was the Dan McCrae training, which I believe is free. [0:15:35, 0:15:35]: Okay. [0:15:36, 0:15:36]: Yeah. [0:15:37, 0:15:41]: Yeah, I attended the Dan McCray training last month and it is free. [0:15:41, 0:15:44]: Okay, that's a different one, but correct. [0:15:44, 0:15:48]: The one that is required, especially for you, um [0:15:49, 0:15:50]: Miss Mary. [0:15:50, 0:15:51]: In order to be [0:15:52, 0:15:53]: Uh, current with the DCA. [0:15:54, 0:15:57]: guidelines is the training offered in making. [0:15:58, 0:15:58]: Okay. [0:15:59, 0:16:02]: Or either sometimes they do it in in um Athens. [0:16:03, 0:16:08]: Okay. But we'll get it we'll get it squared away for you and and get those kind of functions out to you. [0:16:09, 0:16:11]: Sounds good. I I should be available, August for sure. [0:16:24, 0:16:26]: All right, Barber, anything else? Go ahead. [0:16:26, 0:16:30]: I that if there are no questions, that concludes my report. [0:16:30, 0:16:35]: Very good, thank you. And uh we'll make sure to include that with the uh meeting notes. [0:16:36, 0:16:53]: All right, next on the agenda. Um I'm sorry. Oh yes, please go ahead. Yeah, the training for August, you sign up when for do we have the sign up when for August the training? You need to let me know as soon as possible because those seats do fill up quickly. [0:16:54, 0:16:55]: All right, so I'll [0:16:56, 0:16:57]: Okay, Ms. Holliday, I will get in touch with you. [0:16:58, 0:16:59]: Okay. [0:17:00, 0:17:06]: Van um Vanessa, may I may I do I need to send an email or me verbally saying I'm available is good enough. [0:17:07, 0:17:12]: Um, I've I've got a capture here in this vent in this meeting. Awesome. Yeah, me too. [0:17:13, 0:17:13]: All right, meetree. [0:17:14, 0:17:15]: Yeah, very good. [0:17:17, 0:17:20]: Thank you all. Anything else for uh the financial update? [0:17:23, 0:17:28]: All right. Uh we'll move on. Bob, uh you're next on the agenda with any secretary updates. [0:17:28, 0:17:30]: Uh don't have any at this time. [0:17:30, 0:17:44]: All right, very good. And um Main Street Advisory Boards, I believe Kira is out. So is Mr. Peterson. Um, so um Barber, do you have anything to share from the uh Main Street Advisory Board? [0:17:44, 0:18:00]: I do actually. Yeah, Kieran staff there currently attending the national conference that's taking place right now in uh I want to say Richmond, Virginia. But anyway, um a little bit of some bragging rights here, you know, we do the shop small business uh every year. [0:18:00, 0:18:06]: And um apparently there was a competition among the various shops called the cities and [0:18:07, 0:18:11]: We came in second, Stock Ridge Main Street came in second in the nation. [0:18:12, 0:18:18]: second in the nation. Um and so they won twenty five hundred dollars toward the current year campaign. [0:18:19, 0:18:33]: And they are currently having the opportunity to sit on a panel at the national conference to kind of share um some of their gems regarding how we run such a how they run a really great program here in Stockbridge. I mean so that that's huge. I don't know if anyone else. [0:18:33, 0:18:40]: as proud of them as I am, but I thought that was very, very big. Um in that same vein, uh the Ted Strickland. [0:18:41, 0:18:50]: uh build out. I think the interior demo has started. And so the expectation is it's probably going to be about 150-day completion. [0:18:50, 0:18:57]: 150 calendar day completion for that. Um, and so when that's done, you know, uh Main Street, I have an office and CDA, I have a home. [0:18:58, 0:19:01]: Um, and so that'll be you know a nice, nice little change there. [0:19:02, 0:19:03]: Um [0:19:03, 0:19:05]: June twenty first. [0:19:05, 0:19:07]: From four to seven. [0:19:07, 0:19:17]: There's going to be a stippency at the amphitheater, I believe, um, which is gonna be free for the community um for community members to come out, you know, if they wanna. [0:19:18, 0:19:24]: Come out, review the amphitheater, ask questions, you know, all the things that will take place June 21st. [0:19:25, 0:19:28]: And am I missing something else? [0:19:29, 0:19:30]: Um [0:19:30, 0:19:36]: kind of far in advance notice and I'm pretty sure we'll talk about it more as the date gets closer, but uh [0:19:36, 0:19:49]: Small business blitz will be taking place again. You know, the national award-winning program will be taking place again, but that starts November 1st through Small Business Saturday, which is the Saturday after Thanksgiving. [0:19:50, 0:19:53]: Um, so that's the updates that I have for now. [0:19:59, 0:20:01]: Thank you. Any questions for um for Barber? [0:20:04, 0:20:24]: All right. Um we'll move on to the next item. So with the uh facade grant update, um, so Bob and I, as well as uh Mr. Peterson, has been working on revising the uh facade grant program uh literature. So there's a couple I I shared this with you via email. Um so we have a new or or re [0:20:24, 0:20:42]: uh you know an updated um facade grant overview document. Well we cleaned out some redundant documents and then we've taken the overview document and up and and developed a new uh application. Before we post it out on the website, I wanted to just you know make sure this board [0:20:42, 0:20:47]: um has the opportunity to review and provide any comments on the revisions that were made. [0:20:48, 0:20:49]: Um the main [0:20:50, 0:21:10]: Changes that were made, I outlined in an email, they were to uh update the DDA name, which uh you might recall from our last meeting, we have um we we had to formalize the legal name uh of this DDA as the um downtown development authority of the city of Stockbridge. So that got clarified in the documentation. [0:21:10, 0:21:30]: We updated the um the planning commission also had a name can change, so we we made sure that was um fixed, um, fixed some broken hyperlinks. Um we included the updated DDA boundary map. Um we as far as the uh program changes. [0:21:29, 0:21:49]: There was only um two main points that were clarified, which is that the um the uh a DDA or excuse me a facade grant application um will expire in 12 months. So um uh you know that's just so that we don't have these open applications where we don't get [0:21:49, 0:22:09]: uh what's required from the business to get their uh reimbursement um open in perpetuity. Um and uh and and the other item was that reimbursements will be made once the receipts are provided and a site inspection is made. Um there was verbiage around that, but it wasn't a clear [0:22:09, 0:22:29]: Point. So we clarified that point. I'm hoping everyone has had a chance to review, or if not, do we want to go through? I'm happy to bring up the document and go to it in more detail, but I'd like to uh make a motion that we adopt the updated um that the DDA adopt the updated overview document as well as [0:22:29, 0:22:32]: the uh facade grant application. [0:22:33, 0:22:34]: Second. [0:22:35, 0:22:38]: Thank you, Bob. Any discussion or questions? [0:22:42, 0:22:50]: All right, seeing none, hearing none, let's uh go ahead and vote on that to adopt the changes uh with a raise of hand or please say yes. [0:22:51, 0:23:10]: And um all right, that looks to be unanimous. Thank you, everyone. I appreciate your support on that. So uh the next item I think well related to that, um Vanessa, if please let me know what you need from me or us as far as um making sure that the updated air review and application gets posted up on our website. [0:23:11, 0:23:31]: Okay, we we are ready to go. We just needed you all to vote on it on the very good. Thank you. Um great. The next item on the we'll move on to the next item, which is uh city staff updates. Uh Mr. Peterson is not here, so we'll move on to uh city council updates. Uh Councilman Alexander, uh you have the floor. [0:23:32, 0:23:36]: Hello everyone. Uh it's uh glad that everybody could join. [0:23:36, 0:23:42]: And I always like to start off by saying that I I value this meeting, your participation. [0:23:42, 0:23:45]: And I take them very seriously. And we're [0:23:46, 0:23:47]: Here to make sure that [0:23:47, 0:23:50]: We advance the needle and do everything possible to [0:23:51, 0:23:53]: uh in in enhance our downtown area [0:23:54, 0:23:58]: And I look at each one of us on this board as equal partners. [0:23:59, 0:24:01]: Uh in this year when we first started. [0:24:02, 0:24:04]: Uh I'll send out an email. [0:24:04, 0:24:06]: To challenge the council. [0:24:06, 0:24:10]: That each person here should be responsible for bringing [0:24:10, 0:24:20]: a business or multi or or multiple businesses to the city. That's what our goal is to for economic development. Economic development does not happen [0:24:20, 0:24:22]: Uh in a vacuum. [0:24:22, 0:24:24]: It happens in an intentional way. [0:24:24, 0:24:28]: For us all to be involved. Each and every one of us has. [0:24:28, 0:24:33]: people in our network that own businesses that should that could [0:24:33, 0:24:35]: And it should be in our downtown. [0:24:35, 0:24:37]: So when you're having a conversation. [0:24:38, 0:24:43]: And you're talking to your friend and your friend says, Man, I really like like to open up a restaurant. [0:24:43, 0:24:48]: And I've been thinking about that. Well, gee, have you ever thought about opening up a restaurant? [0:24:48, 0:24:58]: Uh in downtown Stockbridge. Did you know we were looking for restaurants and we have a dearth of restaurants in this area? There's so much opportunity. Uh maybe we should get together a [0:24:59, 0:25:09]: some sort of a promotional package or that we should entertain to make sure that folks understand what's uh available in the downtown area and what we have. [0:25:10, 0:25:21]: uh to offer because my my my measuring stick for our success is economic development. See, I had a great time at the Mars Day concert. [0:25:22, 0:25:27]: I had a really great time at the Patty LaBelle concert, but it's not about that. Okay. [0:25:27, 0:25:30]: We built and spent twenty three milyen dollars. [0:25:30, 0:25:46]: The everybody gets distracted by the fact that we're having a good time and we're partying. That's not what we're doing. That's not what the goal was. The goal is to is have to enhance economic development through social activities. So in in my mind, [0:25:47, 0:25:50]: If we close this year without significant [0:25:50, 0:25:54]: uh economic development in town in downtown after we spent [0:25:54, 0:25:57]: twenty three million dollars, we would not have succeeded. [0:25:58, 0:26:04]: So every day I'm looking at opportunities and see what we can do to bring additional businesses. [0:26:04, 0:26:06]: Uh to downtown. [0:26:06, 0:26:10]: You know, Mr. Peterson now is working on the opportunities on tax credit. [0:26:10, 0:26:14]: Which certainly would be an option, uh, a great tool. [0:26:14, 0:26:21]: to put in our mailbox in order to in our toolbox in order for us to attract new businesses. Because businesses [0:26:22, 0:26:24]: certainly could benefit from [0:26:24, 0:26:28]: uh the tax credit. We certainly had and think that we are on the inside track. [0:26:29, 0:26:32]: And that's going to happen for us. So we should be able to [0:26:32, 0:26:34]: Анонсте сам понят. [0:26:34, 0:26:37]: In the upcoming months. [0:26:37, 0:26:40]: In terms of overall c city [0:26:40, 0:27:00]: uh economic development activities. We the the bridges at Jodoko, I mean we've had a lot of talk about that. Uh our uh mixtures development at 975 and Jodoko Road. Uh for many years, I I I could write a book on all the things that have happened uh to keep Jotoko from moving forward. But [0:27:00, 0:27:00]: True. [0:27:01, 0:27:06]: Uh through our persistence excuse me and our determination to not [0:27:06, 0:27:08]: Литвис Прода проєкт. [0:27:09, 0:27:09]: Uh [0:27:10, 0:27:23]: falter. We have persisted and it is moving forward now. I was just over there today and they're laying a foundation for the 306 uh multifamily units of the apartments. These are [0:27:23, 0:27:30]: luxury apartment units which are best in class. They're what's called class A development. [0:27:30, 0:27:35]: Class A development means is best in class materials, technology. [0:27:35, 0:27:38]: uh and infrastructure being used in the project. [0:27:39, 0:27:43]: Uh you the amphitheater itself is a class A project. [0:27:43, 0:27:56]: Those projects, we like we, you know, we have a lot of times we have a discussion where folks say we like to see Whole Foods, we like to see top golf, we like to see these upscale restaurants there. Those upscale restaurants that you see. [0:27:57, 0:28:09]: Top Golf at Whole Foods, they build class A buildings. They want to be next to Class A development. So when you're creating a mixed use environment with Class A uh development. [0:28:09, 0:28:24]: then that help attract helps to attract those businesses. And again, you know, some people get hung up on, oh, those are apartments over there. Trust me, Whole Foods likes apartments. Okay. They certainly do. [0:28:24, 0:28:33]: Uh these upscale restaurants, they love they like apartments because and they like multi-use and they like density because they want people on the ground. [0:28:33, 0:28:35]: Who can walk? [0:28:35, 0:28:46]: shop and uh and and and use their business on a daily basis, not just have to travel to it. So that is the concept that's being set aside and put together at Johtaco. [0:28:46, 0:28:54]: They just started the ground clearing today, which is, you know, they're scraping, scraping the ground to make sure that they can put in the infrastructure necessary. [0:28:54, 0:28:58]: uh for the townhomes. Another class A project. [0:28:58, 0:29:01]: These will be brownstone town homes. [0:29:01, 0:29:05]: Uh that they're building over there. There will be the two and even three story. [0:29:05, 0:29:07]: Brownstone town homes, which will be [0:29:08, 0:29:09]: Uh you know. [0:29:09, 0:29:12]: units that are that's kind of it missing from the community. [0:29:12, 0:29:15]: We have a lot of single family homes. [0:29:15, 0:29:18]: We have mostly single family homes. [0:29:18, 0:29:20]: And then we don't have a lot of [0:29:20, 0:29:22]: A class A development. [0:29:22, 0:29:27]: uh such as these uh round stone because I I as a realtor I get this request of why don't we have [0:29:28, 0:29:31]: Uh nice town, brownstone town homes here. [0:29:31, 0:29:34]: Or or or larger scale town homes where [0:29:34, 0:29:38]: We can live on a property. Well, that's coming right there at Jodeco Road. [0:29:38, 0:29:42]: And I seventy five. And because uh the [0:29:42, 0:29:44]: The request has been from [0:29:45, 0:29:51]: the retailers that they were discussing this projects with, they wanted to see uh those um [0:29:51, 0:29:58]: They wanted to see those uh residents there on site before the uh the commercial component would move forward. [0:29:59, 0:30:00]: We are this close. [0:30:01, 0:30:02]: Let me repeat. [0:30:03, 0:30:07]: We're this close to lay landing a huge retailer. [0:30:08, 0:30:11]: That everybody wants to see in this community. [0:30:12, 0:30:21]: Hopefully within the next 30 days, I will be able to come back to this meeting and tell you who it is. But today I can't tell you it is. But because we built [0:30:21, 0:30:24]: The apartments and because we built the town homes and they seem [0:30:25, 0:30:31]: Uh this those two projects, the apartments represent a fifty million dollar investment in the city. [0:30:31, 0:30:38]: And then the townhomes recommend re uh represent another uh twenty to twenty-five million dollar investment. [0:30:38, 0:30:42]: uh on that same property so they've seen seventy five million dollars [0:30:42, 0:30:44]: an investment. So [0:30:44, 0:30:50]: Uh, the the uh uh the commercial retailers understand and see that they're very serious about building. [0:30:51, 0:30:56]: A high quality project, and the city has mandated that they build a high quality project. [0:30:56, 0:30:59]: through the development agreement that we established. [0:30:59, 0:31:00]: Uh with them. [0:31:01, 0:31:03]: But uh look out for that to be happening. [0:31:03, 0:31:11]: Uh very, very soon. Uh in our downtown area, if you watch and you follow the Stockbridge Police Department, um [0:31:12, 0:31:18]: page you'll see that they have started redevelopment uh on the North Henry uh police depart um [0:31:18, 0:31:19]: Precinct. [0:31:19, 0:31:22]: at forty five forty five North Henry Boulevard. [0:31:22, 0:31:32]: The council has uh endeavored to move forward that project. We allocated the funding out of the American Rescue Plan Funds. So you'll see a real a updated [0:31:33, 0:31:45]: state-of-the-art facility that this that will be approximately$3.9 million to$4 million an investment creating a modern um [0:31:45, 0:31:51]: police department where our officers will have the best technologically advanced equipment. [0:31:51, 0:31:54]: And out in uh that they deserve in order to be able to [0:31:55, 0:31:56]: move forward with standing up. [0:31:57, 0:32:07]: uh our police department downtown. So uh those are the latest uh course you know about the STEM school that represents a forty-five million dollar investment. [0:32:07, 0:32:20]: uh in downtown and the school board has, you know, they've always they've already started their design work in order to do, in order to put the project together and to make sure that uh it is delivered, invest in quite uh class. [0:32:21, 0:32:34]: form. If you go to uh downtown Stockbridge and you look at uh North Lee Street, South Lee Street, and East Atlanta Road, you see a lot of development, a lot of uh you know [0:32:35, 0:32:35]: Uh [0:32:35, 0:32:39]: grub work going on there. That's what we call it, which is they're doing a lot of uh [0:32:40, 0:32:42]: They're what they're adding a turn lane. [0:32:42, 0:32:49]: on East Atlanta Road. So if you used to coming down East Atlanta Road and getting to North Henry Boulevard and then everything is stacked up. [0:32:50, 0:32:57]: There's gonna be a full turn lane that will extend from North Henry Boulevard all the way back to the railroad line. [0:32:57, 0:33:00]: And that'll be uh able to assist in moving the traffic. [0:33:01, 0:33:04]: Along there, there will be a ten foot multi-use path. [0:33:04, 0:33:06]: along that side of the road. [0:33:06, 0:33:10]: On the other side of the road, there will also be a ten foot multi-use path. [0:33:10, 0:33:14]: Uh, there will be a in a uh deceleration lane for [0:33:14, 0:33:16]: You don't block traffic in order to turn. [0:33:17, 0:33:19]: uh into the amphitheater area. So that will be added. [0:33:20, 0:33:26]: uh as well on north lee street if you go down there now they're adding additional lane down there [0:33:26, 0:33:34]: And there everybody's always talking about parking for the amphitheater. There's gonna be new parking down there. There'll be two new lots. [0:33:34, 0:33:36]: Uh on North Um Lee Street. [0:33:36, 0:33:45]: to for for additional parking uh on the amphitheater campus. And again, uh we'll be having 10-foot multi-use paths. [0:33:45, 0:33:47]: uh for connectivity and walkability. [0:33:47, 0:33:54]: There will be street lights that will be added there at that intersection, as well as at [0:33:54, 0:34:05]: Uh if you go up to where Lee Street, which is right by First Baptist Church, meets North Henry Boulevard, you see the construction going on on both sides of the road. [0:34:05, 0:34:09]: The road is kind of off center right now. [0:34:09, 0:34:25]: What's going to happen is you see that we moved over, you see they're kind of cut out a new road. They're gonna line that intersection up. So it's a four-way uh intersection at that point. So there'll be four ways and there'll be a traffic signal that is placed there to help traffic be able to move through. [0:34:26, 0:34:27]: And then connect. [0:34:27, 0:34:36]: It's so fortunate that we had planned that project specifically for the amphitheater, but on the other side on South Lee Street, we got the uh [0:34:37, 0:34:43]: The new STEM school coming there, so it actually works out perfectly and falls in line with everything. [0:34:43, 0:34:45]: Uh that we're trying to do [0:34:45, 0:34:51]: uh at this particular uh intersection. And again, I will close by just simply saying is that [0:34:51, 0:34:57]: The council, the DDA, the Main Street, all of us are in this together. [0:34:57, 0:35:02]: And the way that I'm looking at it to grade us is to say it's if if if [0:35:03, 0:35:13]: We got empty storefronts downtown. So whatever we can do to fill those empty storefronts, that's our number one charge. That's how we should be grading ourselves on. [0:35:13, 0:35:17]: What we're doing in order to feel those storefronts with quality retail. [0:35:18, 0:35:20]: And I and I will close by simply saying is that [0:35:21, 0:35:23]: Interest in downtown. [0:35:23, 0:35:24]: Is that all? [0:35:25, 0:35:25]: Time [0:35:26, 0:35:26]: Hi. [0:35:26, 0:35:42]: Why? Because we invested in ourselves. We spent$20 million on the amphitheater. We're spending$18 million on the New Cultural Arts Center. And we have multiple offers on the table in order to do different things that you'll be hearing. [0:35:42, 0:35:43]: More about [0:35:44, 0:35:47]: You know, we we got offers that people coming to the table. [0:35:48, 0:35:51]: That've been watching Stock Bridge for months on end. [0:35:51, 0:35:55]: To see what they could do. All the things that we've been planning on doing. [0:35:55, 0:35:59]: These individuals want to come to the table, have made proposals. [0:35:59, 0:36:03]: In order to do that, to have the restaurants, to have the shops. [0:36:03, 0:36:06]: To have entertainment and everything downtown. [0:36:06, 0:36:10]: So at this point we're weighing multiple offers in order to do [0:36:10, 0:36:14]: Exactly what we've been planning on doing with the Liberal Centers Initiative. [0:36:14, 0:36:18]: And it's exciting when folks are sitting down and they're talking to you. [0:36:18, 0:36:19]: About [0:36:19, 0:36:24]: Uh potentially investing seventy five miljun to a hundred milyen dollars in downtown. [0:36:25, 0:36:26]: And those let those [0:36:27, 0:36:37]: numbers were quoted to us in the meeting that we had. So the interest is is high right now. So you when you're talking to people about getting in the downtown Stockbridge. [0:36:37, 0:36:43]: They need to get in now because getting in later is gonna be a lot more expensive later on down the road. [0:36:43, 0:36:44]: 'Cause it's like [0:36:45, 0:36:54]: You see everything coming, all uh you know once their interest starts, everybody will start coming in, buying up the land, making it more expensive, buying up the buildings. [0:36:54, 0:36:57]: was right now is relatively inexpensive. [0:36:57, 0:37:00]: But once the major players start coming. [0:37:00, 0:37:02]: It's gonna be hard to get in, and so [0:37:02, 0:37:06]: And we certainly want to make sure that we encourage mom and pop businesses. [0:37:06, 0:37:07]: uh to occur. [0:37:07, 0:37:08]: Uh on this wall. [0:37:09, 0:37:13]: And I think I'm I'm I'm thinking that we finally gonna be able to turn over [0:37:13, 0:37:15]: A a full deed to Mr. Sauvain. [0:37:16, 0:37:18]: And get him uh going on his project. [0:37:19, 0:37:19]: Um [0:37:20, 0:37:24]: Uh at the fire station'cause I think we finally executed everything that we needed to do. [0:37:25, 0:37:31]: Uh on our side. And now I think we're just waiting to be able to turn that over to them because it's very important that. [0:37:31, 0:37:33]: When business is brought to us. [0:37:34, 0:37:35]: That we handle it efficiently. [0:37:36, 0:37:40]: And that we do what's necessary to get that business because you know we as a business person. [0:37:41, 0:37:43]: When you're trying to open your doors every day. [0:37:43, 0:37:49]: that it takes to open your door is a day you lost revenue or the day that you lost opportunity. [0:37:50, 0:37:50]: So [0:37:51, 0:37:54]: That's uh my update for right now, but trust me, things are [0:37:54, 0:38:06]: really, really vacant right now. And the reason that they are is because everybody here on the council, the DDA, and the Main Street have been working toward one goal, economic development and jobs. [0:38:11, 0:38:19]: Thank you, Councilman, and uh appreciate the encouraging news. Um, anybody have any questions or comments for Councilman Alexander? [0:38:20, 0:38:39]: I do, I do. This is Frangela. I have a question for you, Councilman Alexander. Um just one very simple one. I just want to make sure I was clear. You definitely uh we definitely want to welcome small mom and pop businesses for downtown, but also um the question is also in the JohtoCo development as well. [0:38:41, 0:38:50]: Sure, there will be uh boutique space. First of all, what will happen uh in the uh multi unit apartments that they're building, they're looking for [0:38:51, 0:38:53]: Small businesses that will be located. [0:38:53, 0:38:58]: You know,'cause on the top they're gonna have the residential and then on the bottom on the corners. [0:38:58, 0:39:00]: on of the project they will have. [0:39:01, 0:39:21]: uh boo boutique root retail space. So they're looking for somebody who wants to open up a bakery, somebody who'll open up a laundry cleaners, uh, somebody who wants to open up specialty shop, those type of retail uh that that that residents can use right there on the property. They're looking for that right now. They'll be looking [0:39:21, 0:39:22]: for that right now and [0:39:22, 0:39:26]: They are on an aggressive timetable. They're telling us that they plan on being open. [0:39:27, 0:39:41]: by the end of the year or the first of uh first quarter of next year, which would be very ambitious, but but that's what that that's what they're quoting us. So they're looking for that now. So if anybody's trying to get in there looking for those uh again, laundry m laundry. [0:39:42, 0:39:44]: Cleaners, not a laundry matter, cleaners. [0:39:44, 0:39:50]: but a or a bakery or a unique type of uh retail business, they certainly are looking for you. [0:39:51, 0:39:52]: Okay, thank you. [0:39:55, 0:39:57]: Any other questions or comments for the councilman? [0:40:00, 0:40:12]: All right. Um before we move on to new business, I neglected to cover a couple of items and I in my opening comments that I do want to put on record. Um uh Councilman Alexander mentioned one of them, the Sylvain. [0:40:12, 0:40:13]: Um [0:40:14, 0:40:19]: uh transaction you remember in our last meeting we uh voted to adopt the um uh [0:40:19, 0:40:22]: Um intergovernmental agreement. [0:40:22, 0:40:42]: Uh that has been uh signed by all parties. It is back with the uh, I believe our attorney, and we're waiting for the final executed documents to be um distributed. So uh just wanna note that that's that was taken care of since our last meeting. Uh the other thing I'd like to mention is that the um [0:40:42, 0:41:01]: And I'd mentioned this a couple of meetings ago, the annual uh required reporting from the Department of Community Affairs. We had learned a few months ago that um the prior year's reports were not done by the DDA. So I I do want to mention I have submitted. [0:41:02, 0:41:06]: All of the required reports from year two thousand and eighteen. [0:41:07, 0:41:08]: All the way through [0:41:08, 0:41:23]: fiscal 2021. Um so that's four years of reports. They're all uploaded to the Department of Community Affairs with the with the valid figure. So that's up to date as well. You might recall the relationship there. You might remember the um [0:41:25, 0:41:45]: Presentation from the DCA representative who spoke to us about the uh revolving loan funds. And this was a predecessor activity that had to happen before we could be eligible for the revolving loan form. So that is now taken care of. And I just want to make sure everyone is aware of that and that that's on record. [0:41:45, 0:41:49]: So it's it's called the AARF, the annual authority. [0:41:51, 0:41:57]: Registration and financial report, AARF. [0:41:57, 0:41:58]: Any questions on that? [0:42:01, 0:42:21]: All right, we'll move on to new business. Um, I regret to inform everybody, I've mentioned this to most of you, that uh Samikwa King, who's a DDA uh member, has um had to resign. She has moved out of the area, so she is no longer eligible to serve on the DDA, um, as you all might recall from. [0:42:21, 0:42:22]: [2542.4, 2562.4]: Uh there's two main requirements to serve on the one of either requirement to serve on the DDA, you either need to own a business in the downtown district or you need to be a resident in the city of in the greater city of Stockbridge. Um, not including the councilman. Uh that's that's a special exception if you're part of the authority, part of the uh [0:42:42, 0:43:02]: uh sponsoring um government entity. Um so I'd like to formalize that. So she sent me a text and I asked her to send an email. I don't believe she was able to do that. So I'd like to just put on record that um and uh that I've received notice of her resignation. [0:43:02, 0:43:12]: And I want to acknowledge that on record here with uh in in the public meeting. Is is there any questions or comments about uh some equal kings resignation? [0:43:14, 0:43:18]: Uh but also just just to we thank her for her uh service to the D DA. [0:43:18, 0:43:38]: Absolutely. Thank you. Thank you for uh thank you for saying that. Um Bob, you're right. And she she served on a couple of different committees and uh gave uh you know an above and beyond time and uh effort on uh serving on this on this board. So we do appreciate that. Thank you. All right. Um [0:43:38, 0:43:58]: We've covered that, covered that. We'll move on to the uh DDA legal name. So I sent some documents. Uh this is just really a cleanup from the last um meeting where you might recall with the Sylvain uh boundary clarification, it was found that there was various legal names used for this DDA. [0:43:58, 0:44:18]: In past legal records. Our attorneys has clarified that through the intergovernmental agreement. I believe there was a certifying document, Vanessa, that you were asked to sign to clarify the DDA's name as Downtown Development Authority of the City of Stockbridge. [0:44:18, 0:44:38]: Um yeah, so that's all taken care of. The only remaining item on that is to adopt a what's called a trade name. Um so that's that's what the last document I sent to this board um last Saturday. Uh that's a long phrase, Downtown Development Authority of the City of Stockholm. [0:44:38, 0:44:58]: Stock bridge. So we wanted something a little bit more uh marketable to put on our letterhead and so forth. So um I'd like to propose, make a motion that we adopt the trade name of Developing Downtown Stockbridge as our trade name. Our legal name is still the, you know, the eight words, but uh [0:44:58, 0:45:13]: And uh we can use that allows us to use a trade name in our literature and our marketing and so forth. And it still refers to this uh legal entity. So let me um let me pause for any questions or comments uh on on that um before we make a motion. [0:45:13, 0:45:15]: Yeah, can you put excuse me? [0:45:16, 0:45:28]: Uh can you put the document uh put the put the the illustration up so everybody can see it absolutely so that um be helpful just one moment so resolution [0:45:36, 0:45:40]: All right, let me clear this. Uh share screen. [0:45:44, 0:45:47]: All right, if someone can confirm you can see the screen. [0:45:48, 0:45:49]: Yes. Yes. [0:45:51, 0:45:53]: To operate under a trade name. [0:45:55, 0:46:00]: So this I believe had to be accepted by both. [0:46:01, 0:46:11]: the city council as well as the DDA in order for it to be valid. And since it was a material change from what we presented to you in our last meeting. [0:46:11, 0:46:26]: Um, I was advised that we needed to bring it up as a motion and recorded in the meeting minutes to not use it. And the council did pass it, certainly. Yeah. Very good. And here's the trade name, developing downtown Stockbridge. [0:46:26, 0:46:40]: And um and this is really it's not a very long one. It just says that uh I'm I'm not gonna attempt to read it to you, but um, you know, it basically gives the gives the notice an authority to to to operate under this name. [0:46:47, 0:46:48]: Sounds good. [0:46:49, 0:46:53]: All right. Any other questions or comments? [0:46:55, 0:47:00]: Yeah. Go ahead, Barber. Sorry. Will we have to change anything um at the bank? [0:47:02, 0:47:17]: Oh, that's a great question. Um, we need to check the the the the bank should align with the formal name of downtown development authority of the city of Stockbridge. Right. [0:47:17, 0:47:26]: And Barber, you bring up a great point. I think that is a follow-up activity. We're probably gonna need to go down there and make sure that this [0:47:27, 0:47:31]: The the long legal name is what's reflected in our bank records. [0:47:31, 0:47:37]: Yeah,'cause right now our checks um have Stockbridge Downtown Development Authority. That's right. [0:47:38, 0:47:39]: Yeah. [0:47:40, 0:47:55]: So um great point. Um that is a follow-up activity. We will note as an action item to uh change the legal name at the bank. And Barber, maybe you and I can um do that together and we'll take care of that before our next meeting if that's uh if all right with all right with you. [0:47:59, 0:48:08]: We can maybe straighten out the debit card for uh moving to the facade grant while we're there. All right, any other points or questions? [0:48:10, 0:48:17]: All right. Well, not hearing any, I would like to make the motion that we adopt the trade name of Developing Downtown Stockbridge. [0:48:21, 0:48:25]: I think I heard it from Bob first. Uh so Bob second of the motion. Any other further discussion? [0:48:27, 0:48:34]: All those in favor, please raise your hand or say yes. All right. It looks to be unanimous. Thank you so much. Appreciate that. [0:48:35, 0:48:55]: Yeah, clear that. And uh the next item is um well, we did the facade grant changes. I think that's here. We did that already. Um, and then we did I did we did modify the agenda to talk about the social media campaign. [0:48:55, 0:49:15]: Campaign proposal. So let me bring that up and let's talk about that for a few minutes. As for those of you who attended the last meeting, you may recall that we had a proposal from a firm who responded to our request for proposal for a social media campaign firm. [0:49:15, 0:49:26]: And uh this was the um this was the pricing that we we had not received pricing, so we couldn't vote on it. This is the pricing that we received. It um [0:49:27, 0:49:37]: As you can see, there's different tier levels. 3250 a month was the lowest level. That amounts to what really is the entire. [0:49:38, 0:49:58]: funding that we receive for the city. So I'm not in a position to even make a motion to adopt this because we don't have the budget for it. Um, but I do want to at least open it up for discussion as far as what we might be able to do and you know what our our next steps might be. So um I welcome any comments or thoughts on [0:49:58, 0:49:58]: On this? [0:50:01, 0:50:09]: Chairman, I do have a question about this. When you mentioned we don't have the budget for, do we have a any budget for? [0:50:10, 0:50:11]: Anything? [0:50:11, 0:50:15]: But you know that we can uh I guess a la carte maybe taking advantage of that. [0:50:16, 0:50:36]: Right. Um, so we have not earmarked specific budget for for marketing. Um, you know, that we do prepare a budget around, you know, towards the end of the summer for each fiscal year. Um, but we do have an operating account. And as you saw in the financials early in this meeting, you know, we do have uh [0:50:36, 0:50:37]: Substantial. [0:50:37, 0:50:56]: um reserve if you will on in in our financials but from this being you know like in a subscription uh perspective uh or you know a service oriented perspective it wouldn't you know it would you know obviously would deplete that and would not be sustainable unless we have unless we change our funding mechanisms. [0:50:59, 0:51:05]: add a little context to the reserve uh just um for especially for a new member [0:51:05, 0:51:10]: Um the our operating budget annually is$20,000. [0:51:11, 0:51:24]: Um and the reason why we have an observer is because we're just coming out of two years of, you know, we've all been in the the COVID situation. So um the benefit of that is that we just haven't really spent any money. Um [0:51:25, 0:51:33]: But that's kind of, you know, not kind of, but that's where the reserve comes from. But just so you know, um, twenty thousand dollars is what we [0:51:34, 0:51:36]: Um half an operating funds a year. [0:51:38, 0:51:38]: Yeah. [0:51:39, 0:51:41]: It's good information. Thank you. [0:51:42, 0:51:50]: Yeah, um what I'm gonna say that this is generally this this is this would be like if she was running the social media for the whole city. [0:51:50, 0:52:02]: Not not not what we're doing. This is certainly not in l not what I was expecting. I was I was certainly wasn't expecting anything nearly to this. Maybe we just ni need to form a committee. [0:52:02, 0:52:11]: Uh maybe Mr. Peterson and then a couple of the members on the board to just try to'cause we don't really have that much going on in order for us to [0:52:11, 0:52:13]: Um do this, I think. [0:52:13, 0:52:18]: Uh generally what we'll need to do is just kind of post updates on what we're doing. [0:52:18, 0:52:32]: uh as a unit, uh our meetings, that kind of thing, uh the basics, and then uh some updates on general uh things like if we have an event or something like that. So uh I'm not sure what the [0:52:32, 0:52:47]: what this was all um entailing, but it's certainly m way overkill than what we we're looking for. So certainly I think we need to shove this and look at maybe forming a committee of our members in order to do something with this. [0:52:48, 0:52:57]: Council Councilman Alexander, I actually agree with you. I I'm just doing the math just very quickly and I'm thinking uh aligned with uh a salary, right? If we would actually [0:52:57, 0:53:04]: You know, paid someone to do this for a year, the most expensive package is like 54,000. My math is a little bit off, you know. [0:53:05, 0:53:08]: Um at least 39,000. It's that's excessive. [0:53:08, 0:53:17]: You know, but I I do have another question about that. Is there a way we can we definitely can build a committee for it, but is there a way we can actually have maybe interns? [0:53:18, 0:53:19]: Certainly. Yeah. [0:53:21, 0:53:22]: Okay. [0:53:25, 0:53:26]: Other thoughts? Go ahead. [0:53:27, 0:53:32]: I really um because I was thinking along the same when Councilman Alexander mentioned earlier in the meeting about. [0:53:33, 0:53:53]: putting together some sort of promotional materials. I really, um, I really like that idea. Um, because to his point, if we're out and we're networking or just even in our own warm circles and these types of opp conversations come up, opportunities for these conversations come up, it would be really nice to not only have the discussion, but have something we can leave [0:53:53, 0:54:13]: With someone, you know, for more consideration about coming into our downtown area. I'm not the most creative on the CPA by trade, but however, I would be more than willing to serve on, you know, a committee that we can whatever we need to do to start spearheading, getting more of the communication out there about our downtown area. [0:54:13, 0:54:17]: So I'll be willing to serve, but I'm not creative. [0:54:18, 0:54:18]: Okay. [0:54:21, 0:54:29]: All right, that's great. Thank you. Um, is there anyone else who might be interested to uh participate in a committee as councilman has suggested? [0:54:30, 0:54:31]: Yes. [0:54:32, 0:54:37]: Thank you, Bob. I would yeah. And and and like like Barber, I'm not creative either. So uh [0:54:38, 0:54:58]: Well, I think that's why we would uh look to uh some outside help for this. But I liked your idea, Ms. Merritt, about the um, you know, interns or other other possible um, you know, options that are out there. I think if you get creative in the sense of how you source something like this, then you know you there might be other ways of moving forward. Um [0:54:58, 0:55:18]: Let me offer one more thought related to this. Well, a couple more thoughts. First of all, I really did like the presentation that was done by this firm. She seemed very much engaged with working with the, you know, with her work with the city of Stone Mountain. [0:55:18, 0:55:32]: Mountain, um, and as far as you know, providing engaging content, that all seemed very much in line with what I think would be beneficial for us. Um, obviously, we don't have the budget for the scale of a of a proposal, but [0:55:32, 0:55:38]: I'm thinking if we were to maybe go back to her with the idea of a um [0:55:39, 0:55:56]: uh some form of an a la carte support um and specifically targeting the facade grant program. Now that we've revised the facade grant application and the program, we've got a sizable fund. Councilman, as you said, [0:55:56, 0:55:59]: Um in a prior meeting. Um [0:55:59, 0:56:19]: We don't want that budget to be just sitting there. We want we want that budget to go to the business owners in our downtown district so that they can improve the facades and really step up the uh uh the look and the experience of uh of the downtown district. So I'm I'm I'm thinking if maybe we consider utilizing this firm on in an all-cost. [0:56:19, 0:56:31]: part basis, but targeted specifically for the um uh facade grant. Um that's an idea I thought I would uh just share with you all and and see what you see what your reaction is. [0:56:33, 0:56:34]: I agree. [0:56:35, 0:56:35]: Mm. [0:56:40, 0:56:42]: Yeah, I I agree. I I think that's a good idea. [0:56:43, 0:56:44]: Very good. [0:56:45, 0:56:48]: Um so uh we have um [0:56:48, 0:56:55]: Barber and Bob as um potential committee members for the media um campaign. Um [0:56:56, 0:56:58]: Fran might you be interested as well. [0:56:59, 0:57:06]: You know, I'd I'd I have a problem with saying no, but I mean I would love to. I'm just thinking I'm just thinking about my bandwidth right now. Um [0:57:07, 0:57:12]: I I think I I think I will definitely love to to help out. I'm not a creative as well. I actually [0:57:13, 0:57:17]: have to depend on somebody to help me out with social media for my own organization. So [0:57:17, 0:57:18]: But I I have some. [0:57:18, 0:57:21]: I have some tips, maybe. All right. [0:57:21, 0:57:36]: Well, um if it's all right with everyone, let me reach out to um this um this uh this firm, um a very nice lady and and ask her if she, you know, what that might look like and maybe describe what [0:57:37, 0:57:44]: a marketing campaign targeted specifically the facade grant. And I'm thinking, you know, it might be something like, you know. [0:57:45, 0:57:46]: Some type of [0:57:46, 0:57:50]: hand flyer brochure type of thing so that you know if we went door to door and [0:57:51, 0:58:11]: know handed them and spoke to the business owner saying, you know, if you improve the facade, you can you can get 50%, you know, grant from this, you know, from the DDA. Um that that would help sort of you know promote the program. So if it's all right, I'll you know see if maybe that's uh in line with what she's interested in doing and maybe provide uh [0:58:11, 0:58:18]: uh cost proposal on that. And then that can be a basing a launching board from which we can proceed. [0:58:19, 0:58:25]: Yeah. Yeah, I see this little small print that says a la carte twenty five hundred minimum. [0:58:25, 0:58:26]: Yeah. [0:58:28, 0:58:35]: It's kind of Yeah. Yeah, I mean for me that would seem reasonable. I mean just to print up brochures and things like that, that's [0:58:35, 0:58:46]: You know, I mean that's not, you know, to do the design and do the print and so forth, that's that's not that's not out that's not from my experience, that doesn't seem to be out of line. [0:58:47, 0:58:50]: But yeah, good point. [0:58:50, 0:58:51]: Any other discussion on this? [0:58:52, 0:58:53]: Um [0:58:54, 0:58:58]: Not on this, but on this. I don't know if this is a good place. [0:58:58, 0:58:59]: Um [0:59:00, 0:59:20]: In in line with this, I kind of want to put Councilman Alexander on the spot if he may. Um, would you be would you I I would like to because again, when I came on the board, we were in the middle of of a pandemic. So um I know what downtown is, I know where it's at, my office is down there. But um I would like if if you're open to it, councilman. [0:59:20, 0:59:25]: to do a walkthrough if we can just kind of meet up one day and walk through downtown. [0:59:26, 0:59:31]: Um and kind of just kind of talk idea, vision in terms of, you know. [0:59:31, 0:59:44]: what that looks like when the when the DDA actually starts bringing in more businesses to economic development. And I'd invite anybody else on the board, you know, we can do it as a board, but I would really like a tangible hands-on walkthrough. [0:59:45, 0:59:53]: our downtown. And I know that I think the boundaries would will recently change. So I I don't even know physically, visually, if I even really [0:59:54, 1:00:01]: know what those new boundaries are. So I would love that if you have the capacity to do that with me and others. [1:00:01, 1:00:12]: Well, certainly we could all do that as a group, but there is a video that actually exists where we did a presentation um with a group of business owners before we did a tour. [1:00:13, 1:00:15]: Of the amphitheater talking about [1:00:15, 1:00:21]: Uh those very things, the vision and all of that. As far as physically walking down there, we didn't do that. We just [1:00:21, 1:00:24]: Talked about we we have a city presentation that [1:00:24, 1:00:42]: talks about downtown, what the vision is and those kind of things. So certainly, but we could certainly get together as a group and uh actually do a walkthrough. That's one of the things I was gonna suggest that we do too, is that at at least once or twice a year we you we come we we we invite [1:00:42, 1:00:44]: businesses into downtown. [1:00:44, 1:00:50]: Uh we have them uh have a meeting or function at the amphitheater. [1:00:51, 1:00:57]: Like we did. That's how we got the STEM school here because we had a meeting, we invited the school board, we invited some business owners. [1:00:57, 1:01:00]: They came in, everybody got all excited. [1:01:00, 1:01:01]: That's our carrot right there. [1:01:02, 1:01:06]: So what we would do under the D D under the downtown development authority. [1:01:07, 1:01:08]: Umbrella is that we would have [1:01:09, 1:01:13]: A economic development meeting or summit or [1:01:13, 1:01:16]: or a get together where we invite business owners in. [1:01:16, 1:01:34]: And we would make we would have Mr. Peterson and the staff and our member our members uh talk to them about the vision of what downtown is and what we want to uh actually do. Uh before that, of course, we would get together as a group in order to review what the presentation was going to be. [1:01:34, 1:01:44]: and and what have you, but certainly uh there is a video that talks about uh all of these uh various items. I had to get with uh our um [1:01:44, 1:01:57]: administrative assistant to make sure that they pull it up because the video is kind of long, but in it is a tour of the amphitheater. And if I can find a link of it, I'll send it to Mr. Custon so he can send it out because it's posted on YouTube. Yeah. [1:01:58, 1:02:02]: We did get to tour the amphitheater and it's it it's a beauty. We we didn't have it. [1:02:03, 1:02:06]: Yeah. Absolutely absolutely. In the presentation we talked about, I think. [1:02:07, 1:02:14]: Say again. I think that was you. You set that up for us, didn't you last year the BDA when we got a chance to view the amphitheater? [1:02:14, 1:02:21]: we had several different tours that could go along and I think we just got together with the city manager in order to [1:02:21, 1:02:31]: to get it done. But certainly we want to be able to do that and then talk about we talk about all of the components in in in the in the downtown area. So certainly when [1:02:32, 1:02:34]: When the group wants to do that, we can kind of do that. [1:02:35, 1:02:38]: Uh y'all just need to let me know when that is. So [1:02:38, 1:02:43]: Uh we can get together and do that with Mr. Peterson and uh uh make it happen. [1:02:43, 1:02:44]: Mm-hmm. [1:02:44, 1:02:50]: One uh one quick question to go along with this. I know uh Councilman Alex Alexander had recommended t-shirts. [1:02:51, 1:02:57]: Do we have a budget for those things so that we can get T shirts, so that we can be, you know, we're gonna be doing that. [1:02:57, 1:03:01]: Uh, especially when you say they have an event at the amphitheater or other events. [1:03:01, 1:03:06]: And we can wear a T shirt just as a way of unity and showing that we separate from the crowd. [1:03:06, 1:03:08]: I say a polos, but we'll [1:03:09, 1:03:29]: Well we're gonna have both of them like when we're doing like a field outing or something like that where we're walking downtown or something like that, we might might have a t-shirt, but for like a fish. Yeah, polo shirt. No, I mean I just call everything t-shirt, but polo shirts are good. Right, right, right. I don't say we do we have a budget for [1:03:29, 1:03:33]: That's what I'm asking. I'm asking the uh president, Mr. Cush. [1:03:34, 1:03:54]: Well, I I don't think it's specifically earmarked, but um, you know, with the approval of the board, um that could be um, you know, we could we would come up with the budget of what we think it would cost and then with everyone's approval, then as long as we have the funds, we can we could proceed with something like that for sure. I would add I would add to that idea uh business cards, but also [1:03:54, 1:03:56]: So um [1:03:56, 1:04:00]: With the new name that we just adopted. [1:04:00, 1:04:11]: Um I am I I should mention that I am working to see if we can get permission from the city of Stockbridge to leverage some form, maybe the branding. [1:04:12, 1:04:32]: uh package, if you will, of the where community connects and be able to adopt a version of that specifically for developing downtown Stockbridge for the DDA specifically. And so I would I would ask that maybe we time that such that we get a new logo, we get a new tagline or whatever. And then then we [1:04:32, 1:04:38]: And we can apply that to the polo shirts and or business cards. Right, right, right. [1:04:39, 1:04:41]: Sound like a plan. [1:04:41, 1:04:42]: Very good. [1:04:43, 1:04:44]: Other thoughts? [1:04:45, 1:05:05]: All right. That brings us to old business. And um I I really don't have um much to cover here, but I'll I'll share with you what I know. The uh Georgia Tech market study that is in progress. Um Mr. Peterson did give me an update that he and uh Emily with Georgia Tech has provided all of the data needed for the analysis. [1:05:05, 1:05:25]: Analysis. They will also be looking into more detailed data on the companies in the area, community assets and facilities, and specific developments such as the bridges of Jodico that Councilman mentioned, and begin to make recommendations to write the final report. And that's due by the [1:05:25, 1:05:38]: end of June. So we I don't know if we'll have anything preliminary by our June meeting, but we should have that certainly by our July meeting. So that's all I have on the Georgia Tech market study. [1:05:39, 1:05:59]: I don't have any further updates on well, I will mention that the downtown strategic work plan, there was a the beautification meeting did um did meet last week, which I attended. Um and they were uh we're looking at um ideas on how to um add vibrancy to the downtown. Um and [1:05:59, 1:06:19]: And Kira did um go through some of the detail of the um build-out on the uh um Ted Strickland uh building. And the last item under all business I have is uh the committee to draft the intergovernmental agreement. Um that has been submitted over to the city. I'm awaiting response. [1:06:19, 1:06:33]: from the uh city, city council and uh the attorneys as to whether they have any edits to that uh and or whether or not that would be adopted. Uh councilman, do you know anything uh about the uh uh standing IGA that we've uh drafted? [1:06:33, 1:06:38]: Uh no, and I had to get an update from the attorneys. They're they're in their hands. [1:06:39, 1:06:50]: Very good. And that's all that we have on our agenda today. We'll uh we'll go ahead and open up the floor for any any other um comments or discussion before before we close the meeting. [1:06:57, 1:07:06]: All right. Then with that, um we could hear a motion to uh close the meeting. [1:07:07, 1:07:08]: Removed. [1:07:08, 1:07:09]: All right. Thank you, Bob. [1:07:10, 1:07:10]: Second. [1:07:11, 1:07:15]: Thank you, Maxwell. And uh any discussion? [1:07:17, 1:07:20]: All right, all those in favor to adjourn, please raise your hand. [1:07:21, 1:07:25]: Very good. That looks unanimous. Thank you, everyone. I appreciate your support. Have a great evening. [1:07:26, 1:07:33]: Welcome again. Welcome. Welcome, Mass. Great to be. Absolutely. Welcome. [1:07:33, 1:07:35]: Thank you. I'll see y'all soon. [1:07:35, 1:07:36]: But

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[0:07:56, 0:08:02]: I'm sorry, yeah I'm sorry, Daniel's here, I just I just know really nice easy a problem. Thank you very much, sir. [0:08:03, 0:08:05]: Okay, it's not thankful. [0:08:08, 0:08:10]: Yes, why did you sort of zoom across that? [0:08:19, 0:08:22]: Madam Clerk, better go to God. [0:08:27, 0:08:28]: Well. [0:08:38, 0:08:38]: Oh yeah. [0:08:41, 0:08:41]: Good to see you. [0:08:43, 0:08:45]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, I have uh six o'clock. [0:08:45, 0:08:49]: And so I'd like to call our council meeting um May ninth. [0:08:49, 0:08:55]: uh to order. Uh and on that note, uh invocation. Mr. Blount, please sir. [0:08:57, 0:08:58]: Everybody stand? [0:09:04, 0:09:10]: Dear Heavenly Gracious Father, we come to you tonight. Thank you, first of all, God, for your grace, and we thank you for your mercy. [0:09:10, 0:09:30]: We ask right now, Lord, in the name of Jesus, that you will continue to cover us and oversee all that we do. We ask that the leaders of this great city of we call Stockbridge, Heavenly Father, will be led, Heavenly Father, keeping you in mind. We thank you for all the citizens and all of those that are partaking in this meeting tonight, that you continue to keep us, continue to guide us, continue to grow. [0:09:30, 0:09:50]: grow our great city, Heavenly Father. Let us be a beacon to the whole city and the Stockbridge and the Henry County and this and the state of Georgia, that we are progressing, Heavenly Father, but we're progressing in you. We thank you, God, for what you're doing in this great city. We thank you for what you embodied us in our mind and that we act with wisdom in all our decisions. [0:09:50, 0:10:01]: We continue to praise you, Heavenly Father, and all that you put impart in us to give to our citizens. We thank you, Father. And it's in Jesus' name we pray. Amen. Amen. Amen. [0:10:03, 0:10:14]: I place allegiance to the flag United States of America and to the Republic of Chance, one nation, when we have liberty and justice. [0:10:20, 0:10:21]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:10:22, 0:10:32]: Mayor Ford? Present. Mayor Pro Tem Thomas. Present. Councilman Alexander. Present. Councilwoman Barber. Present. Councilman Blount. Present. Councilwoman Gantt. [0:10:34, 0:10:44]: Let the record reclect. Councilman Gantt is not in attendance. Mayor Ford, you have a quorum. Thank you, Madam Clerk. I appreciate that. I need an adoption to the agenda. I believe there's an amendment to the agenda for this evening. [0:10:44, 0:10:48]: Mr. Blount? Mayor, I'd like I'd like to add an amendment to the agenda. [0:10:49, 0:10:51]: Uh to include the council to [0:10:52, 0:10:55]: uh vote tonight on an extension of [0:10:55, 0:10:56]: The um [0:10:57, 0:11:00]: allowance process of the city manager to [0:11:01, 0:11:08]: Um to oversee and to able be able to move up to fifty thousand dollars uh in authorization of uh [0:11:08, 0:11:10]: funds within the um [0:11:11, 0:11:16]: the different departments. Uh right now the he has a twenty five thousand dollar um [0:11:17, 0:11:34]: limit and to raise it to fifty thousand dollars would uh also be um something that would a actually help us as a council because the authorization of those funds would have to come through the city manager and be signed off. Um I would like the city manager to comment on that if he would like. [0:11:36, 0:11:39]: So well let me let me ask is there a second to the motion? [0:11:40, 0:11:45]: Let's let's hear from the city manager. Okay, all right. Go ahead please. City manager, you have a uh comment, sir? [0:11:47, 0:12:06]: Is this to amend the agenda? Yes it is to amend the agenda. So will we have a time to discuss this? Yeah, we will have time to discuss it. That's why I was asking really for a second, really. Okay. So this is whether or not we want to amend the agenda. And to add this to discuss this. To add this topic, yes. Okay. I'll second it. Okay. Motion to second it. [0:12:08, 0:12:09]: All right. [0:12:09, 0:12:13]: You have a comment, sir? Well I I I wanted to hear his [0:12:14, 0:12:22]: Uh reasoning before it was second, but since it's been second. But I just want to hear from the city manager first. Motion is second. And the discussion. [0:12:23, 0:12:26]: All right. Well we'll w we'll hopefully discuss this later as opposed to now. [0:12:26, 0:12:31]: Okay, Mr uh uh City Manager, Mr Gardner, you have some comments you want to say before we take this vote? [0:12:33, 0:12:34]: So it [0:12:36, 0:12:53]: This is this motion was to add that that is correct. That is that is correct. So at that time when we get to the item, then we can discuss it and we can present the I can understand. You're absolutely right. Okay. You're absolutely right on that. I'll tell you what. On that note, motion is made in second. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:12:53, 0:12:57]: Sir, I mean stand stand by, stand by, stand by please. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:12:58, 0:13:01]: But wouldn't we like to say we'd have to talk in the discussion papers? [0:13:02, 0:13:10]: We are in discussion. Oh understand that. Uh point of order. Okay. I'd like to appeal to the council to get the city manager comments. [0:13:10, 0:13:10]: I agree. [0:13:11, 0:13:23]: We first need to adopt an agenda. Right. Well if we appeal to the council, we can uh we can get to the city manager comments. I appeal to the council to get the city manager comments. I need a second. [0:13:24, 0:13:25]: Second. What? [0:13:25, 0:13:43]: Hold on, I I'll run the meeting, sir. But I'll tell you what, we can do it that way. Typically what happens, typically what happens, we make a motion in a second, and we have discussion later on. If it's approved, we'll have the discussion later on in the agenda. That's what's gonna happen. I know but I know Mr. Blount asked for him to give some comments initially. I got that. [0:13:43, 0:13:51]: I understand that. Okay? And he actually gave me a heads up on that. So we can do it that way. We it's not commonplace to do it that way, but we can do it that way. [0:13:52, 0:13:53]: All right, so it seems like [0:13:53, 0:13:58]: There's a majority of the council that wants to do this at this time will make exception to that. [0:13:58, 0:14:14]: Now the motion has been made in a second. Mr. Gardner, sir, do you have any comments you'd like to make? Mayor Ford. Yes. I will remove my second. Do we remove your second? Okay. The motion has been made. She removes the second. Is there another second? Certain. Okay, Mr Mr. Alexander seconds the motion. Mr. Gardner, you have any comments, sir? [0:14:16, 0:14:18]: Okay. Y'all gotta speak next. [0:14:19, 0:14:37]: Um my voice is going in and out, so I apologize. Um yes, as I heard um today, I think like you said, Mayor, um we the request obviously to go back to I think what it was initially. Okay, you they can't hear you, Mr. Gardner. You can speak a little louder, please. [0:14:39, 0:14:42]: Unless you want, yes, right. Come on up to the front. There you go. [0:14:45, 0:14:46]: What is the issue to launch? [0:14:47, 0:15:07]: I apologize. Um haven't been feeling well, so um mask and my throat is kinda scratchy, so please forgive me um if I cough. Um as I was saying, um I know prior to my coming on board that this used to be at fifty um and was requested to go to twenty [0:15:07, 0:15:27]: Which was approved by council. Um, I would say that going to 50 would would really just help move some items um through the process and get it done, especially those items that are already budgeted. And I give an example. Um there we have to replace a truck. The truck was budgeted. [0:15:27, 0:15:47]: Budgeted um at fifty, we actually got it in at 46 or 47, which was a three thousand dollar savings. But because it's over twenty five hundred, and even though it was part of the capital budget, it still comes here for vote rather than us being able to just go ahead and secure that vehicle. Um, because as you know, vehicles are hard to come by. [0:15:47, 0:16:07]: These days, um, especially brand new ones, uh easy to come by, out is easy to come by. Um, that's just an example of how we can move something forward race versus having to wait a week or two um before we could get an approval from council um to move forward with purchasing a truck. [0:16:07, 0:16:18]: there was part of the approval process of the capital budget. So it's being approved multiple times, which in and of itself is a duplication and time consuming. [0:16:19, 0:16:19]: Okay. [0:16:20, 0:16:25]: Thank you, sir. All right. Motion been made, been seconded. Mr. Gardner gave his comments. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:16:28, 0:16:28]: Opposed. [0:16:31, 0:16:33]: Uh you're uh um Mr uh Mayor Protein, you oppose? [0:16:35, 0:16:38]: I don't oppose You abstain. [0:16:39, 0:16:46]: I really have questions. But see that's but that's but but I I I would just abstain for now. Abstain. Ms Ms. Barber. [0:16:46, 0:16:48]: You you oppose or abstain? [0:16:49, 0:16:50]: Scream me. [0:16:51, 0:16:59]: I approved. You approved. Okay. So it's otherwise four zero one. All right, we'll add that on to the agenda be uh uh number seven. [0:16:59, 0:17:06]: Number seven. We had that for tonight's discussion. And uh when we get to that point, uh [0:17:07, 0:17:11]: Mr. Blount, I look to view for uh to start the discussion, okay? [0:17:11, 0:17:12]: Yes. All right. [0:17:13, 0:17:14]: Yes ma'am. [0:17:15, 0:17:17]: Yes, appreciate it. Thank you. [0:17:18, 0:17:24]: All right, on that note, that's been uh added to the agenda. So I need a motion to approve the overall agenda, please. So moved. Is there a second? [0:17:25, 0:17:30]: Sir uh mr mrza second that Mr. Blount uh uh uh approved that or obviously that motion, all in favor please indicate. [0:17:31, 0:17:33]: All right, Zananimously says. [0:17:34, 0:17:39]: Yes, ma'am. Okay, you're good. I see ya. It's clear. It's actually clear. I can see it. [0:17:39, 0:17:51]: Okay, good deal. All right. Adoption of minutes, summary minutes uh for three fourteen twenty two and also the summary minutes for uh three nineteen uh excuse me, uh the twenty ninth of mar uh March. [0:17:52, 0:17:57]: Uh twenty two. So the first one were for the council meeting, the second one I mentioned was for the council work session. [0:17:59, 0:18:04]: All right, if there are not any changes to that at this time, I need a motion to accept those minutes, please. [0:18:04, 0:18:06]: So move. Mr. Blount, is there a second? [0:18:08, 0:18:10]: Sir, Mr Alzheimer's second, all in favor, please indicate. [0:18:12, 0:18:16]: All right, so now she says, thank you very much. Um Ms. Holiday, any public comments? [0:18:17, 0:18:18]: No comments? [0:18:19, 0:18:28]: Okay. So on that note we are going to have uh a ceremonial process here and I'm gonna come down and we're gonna swear some folks into some offices and committees here. [0:18:29, 0:18:29]: [1118.0, 1119.2]: [0:18:45, 0:18:52]: And that will be uh Miss Merritt. Come on, Miss Merritt, please. I'm sorry. [0:18:56, 0:19:00]: All right. I want to on this side if you don't mind. Okay. [0:19:00, 0:19:02]: And right, here we go. [0:19:02, 0:19:22]: Now I'm gonna ask you to raise your right hand and I'm gonna raise mine and I'm gonna take this in small little snippets so you can repeat after me. Okay. All right. I am please state your name. I am Frangela Key Merritt. Board member. Board member. Do solemnly swear and affirm. Do solemnly swear and affirm. That I will faithfully perform. That I will faithfully perform. The duties of the downtown development authority. [0:19:22, 0:19:42]: Of the downtown development authority of the city of Stockbridge of the City of Stockbridge and that I will to the best of my ability to support and defend the chair charter thereof as well as the Constitution and the laws of the state of Georgia and the laws of the state of Georgia and the United States of America and the United States of America. I further affirm that. [0:19:42, 0:19:50]: further affirm that upon assumption of this office upon assumption of this office I do not hold any unaccountable for I do not hold any account account of for I'm sorry. Could you [0:19:50, 0:20:10]: I do not hold any unaccounted for. I do not hold any unaccounted for. Public money. Public money. Do unpayable to the state. Do unpayable unto the state. And any political subdivision. And any political subdivision of the state. Of the state. The city of Stockbridge. City of Stockbridge. Or any authority thereof. Or any authority thereof. Nor do I hold any nor do I hold any any other office of trust. [0:20:10, 0:20:30]: Office of treasure of the government of the government of the United States of the United States of this state of this state or any foreign state or any foreign state as prescribed as prescribed as prescribed as prescribed by the law by the law of the state of Georgia of the State of Georgia. I solemnly affirmly affirm that I'm fully qualified under the Constitution of the Constitution and the laws of [0:20:30, 0:20:50]: Of the state in the laws of the state to hold the office to hold the office of downtown development authority board member of downtown development authority board member and that I will perform the duties of my office of my office in the best interest in the best interest of the city of Stockbridge to the best of my ability without fear, without fear, favor, favor, affection, affection. [0:20:50, 0:20:55]: Reward or expectation thereof. Or expectation thereof. [0:20:56, 0:21:00]: On the ninth day of May twenty twenty two. Congratulations. Thank you. [0:21:04, 0:21:09]: You have to sign these, okay? Alright. So uh these are all blue leaf pins. Okay. [0:21:28, 0:21:30]: Now, do you have any comments or things you want to say at this point? [0:21:30, 0:21:37]: I just want to say very quickly, it is definitely an honor to serve and I look forward to uh my term. [0:21:37, 0:21:39]: And and just meeting everyone and [0:21:40, 0:21:40]: And thank you. [0:21:41, 0:21:45]: Well thank you. Appreciate it. All right. Good deal. [0:21:50, 0:21:50]: Yeah. [0:21:51, 0:21:52]: And so [0:21:53, 0:22:00]: Thank you. Okay, Mr. Johnson and uh Miss uh Merritt Jenkins. [0:22:02, 0:22:03]: Okay. [0:22:05, 0:22:22]: Are you doing sir? I do. Good. See? All right. We'll do the same thing, a slightly different uh oath of office. So raise your right hand. I'll raise mine as well, please sir. Good afternoon. I'll take the smallest tippets here. Aye and state your name. Aye, there is a [0:22:22, 0:22:42]: Uh Angela Myers Jenkins. Board member. Board member to silently swear and affirm. Do silently swear and affirm. That I will faithfully perform. That I will faithfully perform. The duties of the Stockbridge Ethics Board. The duties of the Stockbridge Ethics Board. Of the city of Stockbridge. Of the city of Stockbridge Board. And that I will. And that I will to the best of my ability. To the best of my ability. [0:22:42, 0:23:02]: The charter thereof. The charter thereof. As well as the constitution. As well as the constitution. And laws of the state of Georgia. And laws of the state of Georgia. And United States of America. And United States of America. I further affirm that. I further affirm that. Upon assumption of this office. Upon assumption of this office. I did not hold any unaccountable for. I do not hold any account for. [0:23:02, 0:23:22]: Public money due public money due and payable to the state and payable to the state. Any political subdivision of the state. Any political subdivision of the state of Stockbridge. The city of Stockbridge. Or any authority thereof. Or any authority thereof. Nor do I hold. Nor do I hold any other office of trust. Any other office of trust. Of the government of the United States. Of this state. Of this state. [0:23:22, 0:23:42]: Any foreign state or any foreign state as prescribed by the law as prescribed by the law of the state of Georgia of the state of Georgia. I am a resident of the city of Stockbridge. Of the city of Stockbridge. I shall remain and I shall remain a resident while serving. A resident while serving on the ethics board. On the ethics board. I have not been convicted of any felony. [0:23:42, 0:24:02]: Falonies of any felonies involving moral uh perturbe involving moral perturbitude, there you go, thank you. Right. In this state, in this state, or any other state. Or any other state. I will perform the duties of my office. Of my office. Of the best interests of the best interests. Of the city of Stockbridge. Of the city of Stockbridge. And the best of my ability. And investment will fear. [0:24:02, 0:24:16]: Without favor, favor, affection, affection, reward, reward or expectation thereof or expectation thereof for the ninth day of May twenty twenty two. Ninth day of May twenty twenty two. Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you very much. All right. [0:24:18, 0:24:23]: We will s we assign this here? Okay. [0:24:26, 0:24:30]: Okay, Mr. Johnson, this is your set right here on this side. [0:24:38, 0:24:39]: One more, I hear so. [0:24:42, 0:24:43]: What is it? [0:24:47, 0:24:55]: [1512.2, 1517.5]: Now she's fishing that I'll let her go first. How about ma'am, do you have any comments or questions or things you wanna say at this point? [0:25:18, 0:25:23]: You sir? How about you, sir? I just want to thank the board for consideration and the opportunity and uh [0:25:23, 0:25:40]: I profess to be here and fulfill the requirements of the committee. But yeah, appreciate that. And what I owe you and the council and everybody else and citizens, I owe you a chairperson. This is the attorney. That's my selection. I need to finalize that and get you some so you can actually do your work if you ha if you have to in this aspect. Okay? So anyway. [0:25:55, 0:25:58]: And no one's right now. [0:26:00, 0:26:05]: You got me all confused, I'm all scattered over here. [0:26:07, 0:26:07]: All right. [0:26:09, 0:26:09]: Mm-hmm. [0:26:09, 0:26:13]: Got two proclamations to read. And actually I've been informed that uh even though [0:26:13, 0:26:17]: Uh, I don't have a proclamation at this time for this particular [0:26:17, 0:26:25]: Item that I've been informed that May is motorcycle awareness month. Okay. All right. Um [0:26:26, 0:26:26]: Here we go. [0:26:27, 0:26:47]: Got two proclamations. The first one is actually for uh Memorial Day. It's excerpts from the presidential proclamation. Whereas Memorial Day, the United States positive to honor the fallen heroes who died in service to our nation. And whereas our hearts ache in their absence, but their spirit gives us strength to continue the work for of securing and renewing the liberties that are. [0:26:47, 0:27:07]: All Americans cherish and for which these heroes gave their last full measure of devotion. Whereas today their legacy is carried forward by the new generation of servicemen and women who will serve, excuse me, who will strive to shape a more perfect America, and their enormous sacrifices continue to make our opportunities possible. Whereas our nation will never [0:27:07, 0:27:27]: Never forget the valor and distinction of women and men who defend freedom, justice, and peace. Whereas we have pledged to them that they will never walk alone, that their country will be there for them always, and we must work every day to make good on their promise. Now therefore I am this for by virtue of authority, best and as the mayor of Catholic Jordan. [0:27:27, 0:27:47]: On behalf of City Council members Ellen Alexander and Manda Barber, John Blount, the Keesha Gang, and Afonso Thomas hereby proclaimed Monday, May 30, 2022, as Memorial Day in the city of Starfirts in recognition of all those who have been made the ultimate sacrifice in service to their nation. The witness whereof I have here to set my hand on the 30th. [0:27:47, 0:27:57]: day of May 2022 and have calls a official seal based city starters of fixed to and actually today is the night and I signed this along with uh Vanessa holiday as well. Okay? [0:27:59, 0:28:06]: And uh we will also will probably read this again at our uh at our actual Memorial Day ceremony later on this month. [0:28:08, 0:28:28]: Another proclamation here, excerpts from the presidential proclamation, Asian Pacific Asian American Pacific Islander Heritage Month. Whereas Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders Heritage Month is a month to celebrate and pay tribute to the contributions of Asian Pacific Americans, American history, society, and culture. Whereas Asian American and Pacific Islander Heritage [0:28:28, 0:28:48]: This month is originated in the congressional bill in June of 1977. On March 28, 1979, President Carter issued Presidential Proclamation 4650, proclaiming the week beginning of May 4th, 1979, as Asia-Pacific Heritage Week. Whereas on May 1st, 2009, President Obama issued presidential proclamation. [0:28:48, 0:29:08]: 8369 proclaiming May as Asian American and Pacific Islander Heritage Month. And whereas Asian American and Pacific Islanders comprise many ethnicities and languages, and their many achievements embody the American experience. And whereas Asian American and Pacific Islander men and women are leaders in aspects, in all aspects of [0:29:08, 0:29:28]: of American life, government and industry, science and medicine and the arts and armed forces, education and sports. And whereas we celebrate Asian Americans and Pacific Island communities and must so redoubtable, indoubtable, sorry, our commitment to combating the surge of Asian anti-Asian hate crimes, these acts are wrong. [0:29:28, 0:29:48]: They are un-American and they must stop. Now, therefore, I, Anthony Insport by Virginia Authority, less than me as the mayor of City Stockbridge, Georgia. And on behalf of Council Members, El Town Center, Nelani Barber, John Blount, Kesigamp, and Flounza Thomas, we hereby proclaim May 2022 as Asian American, Native Hawaiian, Pacific Islander Heritage Month, we call upon [0:29:47, 0:30:07]: the people of Star Race community to learn more about the history of Asian Americans, Native Hawaiians, and Pacific Islanders and to observe this month with appropriate programs and activities in witness whereof I have here to set my hand on the ninth day of May 2022 and cause the Fisher Seal the Great City Stock Race to be affixed here too and I sign this along with our Cloud Vanessa holidays. [0:30:07, 0:30:15]: All right. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Now we'll go back. We'll continue meeting. Where is this game? [0:30:21, 0:30:22]: Diversity matters. [0:30:31, 0:30:41]: All right, new business council consideration to approve the Main Street Advisory Board MOU twenty twenty two twenty twenty three m uh memorandum understanding presented by Miss Kira Harris Braggs, please. [0:30:48, 0:30:49]: Evening. [0:30:54, 0:31:00]: program memorandum of understanding or MOU for twelve twenty twenty. [0:31:14, 0:31:21]: Could you highlight could you give any type of h highlights of this uh MOU, things that we need to know or and need to reiterate, please? [0:31:42, 0:31:45]: And the National Main Street Center. [0:31:47, 0:32:07]: And this basically um governs the Main Street program with regard to how it conducts its daily and daily operations and activities. And then Article 2 speaks to the responsibilities of our board of directors. Article three um responds to the downtown managers' responsibilities. [0:32:07, 0:32:15]: And then Article 4 is what DCA, our oversight organization, agrees to with regard to the MOU. [0:32:19, 0:32:22]: Okay. Councillor, any questions for Ms. Braggs at all? [0:32:22, 0:32:26]: Mayor. Yes sir. Yes ma'am. One question. Ms. Braggs, um [0:32:26, 0:32:46]: Are there any th is there anything new or any new changes between the MOU from the past? Or is it is is there anything new or different? The only thing that is new, um I would um I guess need to point out is the use of Main Street America in accordance with um any use of Main Street um [0:32:46, 0:32:56]: um policy statements. That is actually in um Article One, Section Five, B six. [0:32:58, 0:32:58]: Okay. [0:33:01, 0:33:06]: And what exactly is that? It used to it used to be the National Main Street Center, it is now Main Street America. [0:33:08, 0:33:09]: And everything else is the same. [0:33:10, 0:33:11]: Pretty much. From operation standpoint. Okay. [0:33:13, 0:33:33]: Any other questions from the council? Yes, I just uh I'm sorry, Mr. Goy Matt Porta. Well I will yield to council. Hi, Mr. Alessand Goentries. Go ahead, sir. Since you're the board member. But I was gonna I was gonna move to accept, but I'll uh allow all of the questions to be asked before I move to accept. Okay, I simply want to understand in layman's terms for the public. [0:33:33, 0:33:53]: public. Okay, the relationship obviously this governing board does this uh has parameters and guidelines and regulations so that the citizens understand what the regulations are we understand what the uh relationship is. Obviously this board has a great deal of authority over what you um your [0:33:53, 0:34:01]: your guidelines, how you operate uh for their basically i is it a certification or is it that so the public understands? [0:34:02, 0:34:22]: Um this would be the agreement between the Department of Community Affairs, the Georgia Main Street Office, and the City of Stockbridge. Our board is an advisory board, so we um they would make recommendations with regard to programming and activities for the Main Street program. And then of course um the city council has overseas. [0:34:22, 0:34:23]: site over there. [0:34:23, 0:34:43]: Okay, so in essence what it is is the agreement is between the Main Street uh America, I guess, and then the city of Stockbridge. And then as the advisory board, uh, you all would uh make sure that we adhere to those rules and regulations uh as according to them. And the relationship between this [0:34:43, 0:35:03]: Council and the Main Street Board. So when we um look at the council and we look at uh the objectives of the Main Street Board, uh how do those objectives line up with this council? Or does that even do does that play any role into what the MOU between [0:35:03, 0:35:09]: between the city and not uh city and the main street America itself. [0:35:09, 0:35:29]: Um if I'm following your question, um I will add that there was one um organization that you left out in the listing of organizations that are a partner in this MOU and that is the State of Georgia Main Street program. Um there are um governmental oversight organization in within the Department of [0:35:29, 0:35:49]: Community affairs for the state of Georgia. So that would be the additional entity there. And as you all know, we have created a work plan for the City of Stockbridge Main Street program, as well as a work plan for downtown development in cooperation with the downtown development. [0:35:49, 0:35:56]: Authority. So we utilize that work plan as our um I guess guideline or our um [0:35:57, 0:36:15]: our strategy for the work that we do um throughout the year. This particular strategic plan was approved by the city council and that is what we have been working from as our plan of work for this year and and continuing years that's what we will look to for our guidance. [0:36:16, 0:36:36]: Okay, and this uh project that we have undertaken to bring the uh Main Street and DDA office to downtown that's in keeping with our overall goals and this comprehensive plan of creating this gathering space and then you uh all being present uh to assist those businesses downtown. [0:36:36, 0:36:43]: Yes, that is one of the um points in our strategic plan. So that's when we can check off the list. [0:36:43, 0:36:46]: All right, thank you. Any other questions from the council? [0:36:46, 0:37:06]: All right, Mayor Pro Tan, go ahead, please. Uh Mayor Ford and Council, I will and citizen, I would just like to just state that uh the MOU which is an agreement and I think Mrs. Bragg you mentioned that uh it is an agreement that outlined the necessary requirements set forth by DCA for community participation. [0:37:06, 0:37:26]: And I think um being f on the advisory board and I think the council is pretty much familiar with the operations of Main Street and I think we do meet all of those uh requirements. With that being said, uh I move to accept the MOU as presented by the Main Street manager. [0:37:27, 0:37:30]: A second. Okay. Ms. Cassak, not further discussion. [0:37:31, 0:37:33]: Go ahead, please. Uh [0:37:34, 0:37:51]: Council, one of the things that I always question is accurate. And so for the public that is that is watching and the public that is here, MOU stands for memorandum will understand. So for those that didn't know that, so I just don't want to take for granted everybody know what this MOU is active. [0:37:52, 0:37:56]: Okay. Any for discussion? If not, all in favor of motion please indicate. [0:37:56, 0:38:16]: Thank you, Ms. Braggs. Okay, thank you. Mayor Ford, before I leave the podium, I would like to point out that Main Street staff will be attending the Main National Main Street Conference next week. Um, we have been um selected as a winner in the Small Business Saturday Neighborhood Champion Innovation Contest. Outstanding. This was a [0:38:16, 0:38:36]: Nationwide search for exemplary Main Street programs for best and most innovative small business Saturday activities and best practices throughout the country. I'm pleased to announce that the Stockbridge Main Street program has taken second place on a nationwide basis, and we will be [0:38:36, 0:38:56]: We recognized at the national conference. We will receive a monetary award for furtherance of our programming around Small Business Saturday. And we will also be presenting as part of a panel discussion for best practices, community impact, and small business Saturday business engagement. [0:39:01, 0:39:06]: So I just wanted to thank you all for your support of this programming. Outstanding. Excellent job. [0:39:06, 0:39:10]: We got top notch staff there. There you go. All right. Mr. Blount. [0:39:11, 0:39:19]: We we put on an agenda in reference to discussion about uh Mr. Gardner and increasing his uh authority to sign off on documents. So please. [0:39:19, 0:39:35]: Thank you, Mayor. The uh reasoning for this is that this council yearly we uh agree upon a budget and that budget encompasses uh certain amounts for different departments uh for you uh usage uh throughout the year. [0:39:36, 0:39:53]: And one of the things that this council has been is a progressive council and we want to move items and projects and things forward as as swiftly as possible. Uh and one of the things that we haven't uh I think that we have entrusted is our city manager to oversee uh those budgeted items. [0:39:53, 0:40:10]: Um we just uh when we talk about the city manager being an an increase to fifty thousand dollars of oversight of budgeting, these are items that these are budgets that are already have been laid out in these departments that will go through the city manager anyway. Uh case in point, when we as a council [0:40:11, 0:40:20]: Um at one time we uh just an example, we had uh Public Works to bring us uh a budget for thirty thousand dollars for sludge. [0:40:20, 0:40:24]: uh that is something that was highly needed. Well [0:40:24, 0:40:37]: This is something that I felt should have went through the city manager and shouldn't have came to the council. We don't I don't think we know anything about sludge. And so those items that he would oversee and talk to those department heads, those items that are already been budgeted. [0:40:37, 0:40:57]: uh that would come to and through the city manager's desk that he would sign off on, uh fifty thousand dollars and less I think that would uh kept to move uh departments forward quicker and uh give the uh with the oversight of the city manager signing off on those uh on those uh uh POs or whatever, I think it's uh it it would be a big [0:40:57, 0:41:05]: best practice for the city to do that. Fantastic. Any other comments from the council on this issue? Yes ma'am, go ahead, Miss Barber. [0:41:06, 0:41:16]: Um one of my concerns is um although I support increasing the city manager's spending authorization, my concern is for [0:41:17, 0:41:22]: Those services that we get task orders or change orders. [0:41:22, 0:41:25]: Such as major construction projects. [0:41:26, 0:41:30]: We know oftentimes they will send a task order or change order, work order. [0:41:31, 0:41:31]: And [0:41:33, 0:41:37]: ten thousand twenty thousand dollars change orders thirty thousand dollars change orders [0:41:38, 0:41:40]: They accumulate over time. [0:41:42, 0:41:43]: I need a [0:41:43, 0:41:45]: Understanding, a clear understanding. [0:41:45, 0:41:46]: Exactly. [0:41:47, 0:41:49]: What this fifty thousand dollars will. [0:41:49, 0:41:50]: Cover. [0:41:50, 0:41:54]: Because what I don't want is for us to be in the same situation. [0:41:54, 0:41:55]: We were in [0:41:55, 0:41:57]: With the amphitheater. [0:41:57, 0:42:00]: approving or allowing the city manager. [0:42:00, 0:42:02]: To approve change order. [0:42:02, 0:42:05]: after change order, even though his spending authorization [0:42:06, 0:42:07]: It's fifty thousand dollars. [0:42:08, 0:42:10]: So I need a clear [0:42:10, 0:42:15]: Well I I'll tell you what my understanding is is that the [0:42:16, 0:42:25]: Well okay. I got the answer, but go right ahead. If if uh if our legal attorney or attorney can answer that question, please go ahead, please. [0:42:28, 0:42:28]: Okay. [0:42:29, 0:42:48]: All right, for my my my point of view on this is simply fifty thousand dollars allows him to to have that for any any any type of singular item up to fifty thousand up to fifty thousand dollars, period. Singular item. Anything more than fifty thousand dollars, if it's a singular item, it has to come to me and it comes to me upon approval of the council had had approved that and then I will sign off on that as the mayor. [0:42:49, 0:43:08]: Okay, so w so I'll say up to fifty thousand dollars no m uh one one time shot, I mean for whatever the contract would be. If it's twenty thousand here and then twenty thousand later and twenty thousand later, well that's that it adds up, yes, but it will still be under the initial fifty thousand dollars is my understanding of this. Yes, mister B uh Mr Alzana goes, please. I wanna make sure you finish, you know. [0:43:10, 0:43:30]: Okay, uh along these lines, I think when you're trying to move things ahead, getting routine things done it certainly should be done, uh m moved along the line. I think uh Mr. Gardner should be given every opportunity to succeed and to move things forward because we have [0:43:30, 0:43:50]: Have an aggressive timetable for things that we want to do. We want to get projects done and we don't need to wait to the next meeting. That uh creates a lot of confusion when we're constantly discussing uh minute issues when we need to be dealing with the the nuts and bolts of running the city, setting policy. [0:43:50, 0:44:10]: for for direction that we have to go in. So I'm supportive of moving the city managers of spending authority up to$50,000 because when we do that, we allow ourselves to be move things along and we allow ourselves to [0:44:10, 0:44:30]: put trust in the officials that we hired to execute these because I'm gonna hold Mr. Gow Mr. Gardner accountable for his work. So I want to give him every tool possible to succeed because in the end, when it's time to grade his performance, I don't want X project [0:44:30, 0:44:50]: To be waiting because it's$28,500 when it could have been solved three weeks ago. Things that need to be done and decisions that need to be made immediately, this uh exponentially increases uh our ability to be function efficiently uh as the city. So I've always been supportive of trusting the people. [0:44:50, 0:45:01]: people to move forward with um uh the authority that they're given and to execute uh at the highest level. Okay. Thank you Ms. Walbert. [0:45:03, 0:45:10]: think um my question is well specifically this will require a change to our procurement [0:45:11, 0:45:12]: Ordnance. [0:45:12, 0:45:13]: Or policy. [0:45:15, 0:45:20]: Okay. That is why I'm asking for specific guidelines. [0:45:21, 0:45:24]: Okay. So be it. Uh Ms. Gann, go ahead, please. [0:45:25, 0:45:27]: Um Mr. Gardner. [0:45:29, 0:45:42]: I'm not against the fifty thousand dollar increase as far as spending, but I do think that Councilwoman Barber had a point, especially when it comes to change orders. So if you could [0:45:43, 0:45:51]: just give me your word that you will notify us of all change order requests. Um that we don't want it to get out of hand where [0:45:52, 0:46:11]: Uh we have a contractor who, you know, we contract it for an allotted amount. If it's over budget, we ha you guys would have to come back to us anyway. I mean, but within that limit of continuing to spend money, um, and they need to do change order after change order, I would hope [0:46:12, 0:46:21]: Um well not hope. I'm requesting, demanding that you provide me that information ahead of time. Will that be sufficient? [0:46:22, 0:46:42]: Yes ma'am. I I'm sorry. I I will I will tell you that if you if I have a change order on a project, let's say I. e. the cultural center when we get under construction and there there's a change order for ten and then there's another one for forty and then at that point that triggers [0:46:42, 0:47:02]: Anything above that is fifty, we'll be bringing that to you guys. I'm not gonna exceed fifty thousand, whether it's fifty thousand one shot or fifty thousand accumulative. Once it gets to that number, every change order from then will be brought before you guys unless you say otherwise. Because uh like everybody else, I don't want to get a project. [0:47:02, 0:47:21]: Or uh i as a project as an example that's going over budget and we're nickel and diamond that over budget. See what I'm saying? We're we're we're aiding and abetting in that situation. I don't want my name attached to that. Um obviously. So definitely we will be bringing that at that point. Any change order after that will be brought forward and say, look. [0:47:21, 0:47:29]: This change order is in excess of accumulatively what we're what I'm allowed to do, so therefore council needs to approve it. [0:47:29, 0:47:31]: Thank you. [0:47:32, 0:47:40]: Yeah, thank you, Mr. Gordon. And and the intent of this and uh and I agree with uh we definitely want to stick with the procurement process and uh [0:47:40, 0:47:51]: and uh keep the integrity of it intact. Uh and I think you must have gone her for that. But the full uh but the greater intent was to look at the different departments that we have already um [0:47:52, 0:48:12]: set budgets for that there the expenditures within that budget that are under fifty thousand dollars. We're gonna have it's been quite a bit of that those purchases needed. And I wouldn't uh want those those um I don't I and I use this word loosely small purchases to come have to continue to come through the county [0:48:11, 0:48:25]: Council when it has to be signed off by the city manager and vetted by the city manager that those projects can be uh moved forward that are already in the budget. And when it comes to the procurement of pro uh of projects, uh I think Mr. Gardner for [0:48:25, 0:48:28]: uh stating and letting us know that the accumulative [0:48:28, 0:48:28]: Um [0:48:29, 0:48:43]: process of of uh funding for those projects will be brought back to this council. And I think that this is a good move for the city uh to move things forward and I think the process um would be a good process with what was just interjected. Thank you. [0:48:44, 0:48:46]: Mayor Botem, go ahead, please. Thank you. [0:48:48, 0:48:53]: I do believe in being progressive in in what we do here. [0:48:54, 0:49:02]: But I also believe in municipal government oversight, checks, and balances. [0:49:02, 0:49:05]: And that's why things are put in place. [0:49:05, 0:49:07]: For checks and balances. [0:49:07, 0:49:09]: And historically [0:49:10, 0:49:12]: Uh this item has come to us before [0:49:13, 0:49:22]: And it was changed because of some things that this council did not approve of. But I know every administration is different. [0:49:23, 0:49:26]: I also believe in planning and [0:49:27, 0:49:34]: And and this is a problem that I have uh with us uh with proper planning. [0:49:35, 0:49:38]: These things can come before [0:49:39, 0:49:40]: The council. [0:49:41, 0:49:42]: For proper [0:49:43, 0:49:44]: Um discussion. [0:49:46, 0:49:48]: And let me just say this in close and uh um [0:49:50, 0:49:51]: We talk about trust. [0:49:53, 0:49:58]: And you know, I I come from a a praying grandmother and et cetera, et cetera. [0:49:59, 0:50:02]: But one thing that always stuck with me that my grandmama said was [0:50:03, 0:50:05]: You don't give trust. [0:50:06, 0:50:07]: Trust is earned. [0:50:07, 0:50:19]: I yield back, Mayor. Thank you. No problem. Any other any other comments from the council? Yes, ma'am, go ahead, please. Make this last one, please. So because this requires a change to our procurement ordinance and policy. [0:50:20, 0:50:21]: The language. [0:50:22, 0:50:23]: We don't have that. [0:50:23, 0:50:27]: I don't want to do I don't want to approve this. [0:50:27, 0:50:32]: I trust Mister Gardner. He and I are on the same page. I understand the need. [0:50:32, 0:50:35]: to increase his spending authorization. [0:50:35, 0:50:36]: However [0:50:36, 0:50:37]: We're talking about the ordinance. [0:50:38, 0:50:39]: The laws of our city. [0:50:40, 0:50:42]: If we're gonna change it. [0:50:42, 0:50:44]: Да, I need to see what that change looks like. [0:50:45, 0:50:46]: before I can approve it. [0:50:46, 0:50:48]: We're just having discussions. [0:50:48, 0:50:48]: Right. [0:50:49, 0:50:49]: It [0:50:49, 0:50:51]: Our legal counsel [0:50:51, 0:51:11]: Can provide me with the language that she intends to use to update our procurement ordinance or policy, I'll be willing to approve this. Well I will say our our attorney will be able to do that. Uh they probably won't be able to do that this evening though, is what I what I would imagine this aspect. But they will they will do that. Excuse me? You're asking that we approve this today? [0:51:11, 0:51:23]: I I am. I'm going to. I mean it's up yeah, I I think that's the intent of the motion and in this aspect to do exactly that and that's up to the council whether you approve it or not in that aspect. I'm so Mr Blount you had something, sir? [0:51:23, 0:51:25]: Yeah, Mayor, um [0:51:26, 0:51:29]: When we gave authorization to [0:51:29, 0:51:49]: um up up to$75,000 to our police chief. It was for expenditures for the police department and those things that's needed. And we did get a memorandum on that. This council, once we approve anything, the legal process or what needs to be uh joined with that approval, those things are put in place [0:51:49, 0:51:54]: prior to any of this going in effect. So today to approve it, push it in motion. [0:51:54, 0:52:03]: And so I with that being said, I'd like to motion to approve the uh um the increase of fifty thousand dollars uh expenditure for our city managers. Is there a second? [0:52:04, 0:52:06]: I second. Ms. Gann, a second, any further discussion? [0:52:07, 0:52:08]: All in favor, please indicate. [0:52:10, 0:52:11]: Okay, all opposed. [0:52:13, 0:52:14]: You oppose Ms. Ms. Barber? [0:52:14, 0:52:21]: I abstain and I do want to add a comment for the record. [0:52:23, 0:52:36]: This particular item requires a change to our procurement ordinance policies processes because the language that is going to be changed to [0:52:37, 0:52:39]: has not been provided to the council. [0:52:40, 0:52:41]: I don't feel comfortable. [0:52:41, 0:52:42]: approving [0:52:43, 0:52:46]: just based on a discussion that we're having here. [0:52:47, 0:52:53]: There needs to be clear guidelines in which this increased spending authorization. [0:52:54, 0:52:55]: Applies to [0:52:56, 0:53:06]: That's all. Okay, thank you. Yes, yes, sir. Uh Mayor and Mr. Gardner, if you would if you don't mind, um when we talk about procurement changes. [0:53:06, 0:53:14]: Whether that item comes to the council and we agree, it goes through the same process. We're just authorizing the city manager. [0:53:14, 0:53:26]: to make that authorization for fifty thousand below. Whether it comes to the council or whether it goes to the city manager, whatever process in place, that process is gonna still be in place with procurement. Um [0:53:26, 0:53:31]: So to s to agree to it right now, and I just want everybody to be clear. [0:53:31, 0:53:42]: Is that the process doesn't change if if we keep it in our hands or or it goes to the city manager? If the city manager comes to us and said he needs a fifty thousand dollar increase. [0:53:42, 0:53:47]: It's the same process. We're only giving the city manager authorization to do it himself. [0:53:47, 0:53:54]: without having to wait until the next council meeting to do it. That's the only thing. Okay. The motion's been made, it's been approved, four zero one [0:53:55, 0:54:15]: And the attorneys are here and so they'll make those adjustments and come back to us with all all the documents and things we need to do. On that note, I'd like to move on uh to uh my particular comments. And they are they deal with early voting. Ladies and gentlemen, early voting is going on right now. Obviously it's your constitutional right to vote. Hopefully everybody is listening uh in front of me and listening to my voice. You're registered voters. [0:54:14, 0:54:34]: So early voting started on May 2nd, ends on May 20th, 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. All right, Monday to Friday. Saturday voting is May 7th and May 14th. 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. And um Sunday voting is also on May 15th, 1 to 5. Now there's several different local [0:54:34, 0:54:46]: location the Henry County, of course the Merrill Manor's Conference Center, 111 Davis Road and Stockbridge, of course. Then you have the Henry County Main Election Office at 40 Atlanta Street in Madonna. [0:54:47, 0:55:07]: You have the Forsome Library, uh 61 Madonna Street in Hampton, and our Locust Grove Library at one uh 115, Martin Luther King Jr. Boulevard in Locust Grove. All those places you can vote to no matter where you live or registered in Henry County, you can you can vote actually early vote in any one of those four locations. Now [0:55:07, 0:55:12]: Um there are some additional locations, polling locations that will be open during the final week. [0:55:13, 0:55:18]: of voting. And at once again at seven a.m. to seven PM, the final week of voting that would be JP Mosley Park. [0:55:19, 0:55:22]: At one zero four one Miller Mills Road. [0:55:22, 0:55:42]: And uh also Fairview Recreational Center at 35 Austin Road. Okay. Now early in voting can um only excuse me, early voters uh can cast the ballots like I said anywhere uh in the county, uh regardless of the location and where you live. All right. Of course May twenty fourth is election day and that that day you will actually have to vote at your [0:55:42, 0:55:44]: Prospective uh precinct. [0:55:44, 0:55:56]: All right, and if you need an absentee ballot, you need to call seven seven zero two eight eight six four four four four four four four eight. Once again, if you need an absentee ballot, you need to call seven seven zero two eight eight six four four four four four four four eight. [0:55:57, 0:56:11]: Now make sure you check your voter registration and uh you can actually get a sample ballot if you go online to uh mvp.sos.ga.gov. Once again if you want uh a actual sa uh actual sample ballot. [0:56:12, 0:56:32]: MVP. SOS.ga dot uh G O V and of course with the local races you have three seats in the County Henry County Board of Commissioners, two seats in the Henry County Board of Education, and multiple uh judicial posts for the courthouse and state legislation and congressional seats are up uh for the early voting aspect for for [0:56:32, 0:56:52]: For this primary. All right. Once again, CDC is recommending that the second booster for anyone that has a weakened immune system, as well as people who uh receive the primary dose or first booster for Johnson Johnson vaccine. So obviously, as you well know, um COVID-19 is still out there, but it's not as severe at this point as it has been. [0:56:52, 0:57:08]: been but we still got to be vigilant in this aspect as well. So you can go to Henry County Department of Health at 135 Henry Parkway and to uh get a Pfizer or Moderma vaccination or also get tested if you like. Once again that's the Henry County Department of Health at 135 Henry Parkway. [0:57:10, 0:57:30]: 470-664-0005. And you can get a free COVID nineteen test at the Red Hawk Field at 143 Henry Parkway. And testing is Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. Once again, Red Hawk Field at 143 Henry Parkway. COVID [0:57:29, 0:57:35]: nineteen testing free of charge Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, nine AM to three PM. All right. [0:57:36, 0:57:38]: And additional announcements I'd like to bring to you at this time. [0:57:40, 0:58:00]: First of all, the uh youth council meetings at 5 30 p.m., second Wednesday of each month in the Levi Meeting Room, right here in City Hall. The next meeting is May eleventh. The Main Street Advisory Board meeting is the second Friday of each month, nine a.m. And it's still by way of Zoom. It says here thirteenth May. Downtown Development Authority meeting, six p.m. by way of Zoom. Zoom there, third Tuesday of each month. [0:58:00, 0:58:20]: Month and next one is May 17th. The youth council advisory committee meeting is 6:30 p.m. Uh third Tuesday of each month in the Levi meeting room right here in City Hall on May 17th. City Council Work Session meeting last Tuesday of each month, City Council Chambers, which will be May 31st. Planning Commission meeting, fourth uh Thursday of [0:58:20, 0:58:29]: uh six thirty by way of zoom and it's scheduled for May twenty sixth. Next city council meeting second Monday of each month. The next council meetings in the chambers on june thirteenth. [0:58:29, 0:58:49]: Okay, upcoming events. Uh continuous salute to veterans. Please forward pictures of veterans including name, branch, rank, and years of service. As Mayor Potem Thomas presents a special tribute to our local veterans. Pictures should be submitted to Z Pearson at City of Stockbridge dash G A dot Gov And of course thank you for your service. Please join [0:58:49, 0:58:53]: Please join uh what I have here is Councilman uh Councilwoman Barber. [0:58:54, 0:58:57]: You've got a free Zuma class on Saturdays at Clark Park, is that correct? [0:58:57, 0:58:59]: Okay, starting May fourteenth. [0:58:59, 0:59:17]: at eight A.M. Okay. Once again a free Zoom ah class on Saturdays at Clark Park beginning Saturday, May 14th at eight AM and ladies and gentlemen, we still have Tasty Tuesday, Food Truck Takeover begins uh began Tuesday, May begins Tuesday, May seventeenth, five thirty, eight thirty PM [0:59:17, 0:59:31]: Tasty Tuesdays, five thirty to eight thirty PM at Clark Park and um and June seventh. Also Tasty Tuesday and also June June fourteenth. All right, so come on by and enjoy a great meal and enjoy family fun. [0:59:31, 0:59:38]: On that note, Council, I know that we we have an executive session item for real estate, so I'd like to ask for a motion to go to executive session, please. [0:59:38, 0:59:42]: Mayor. Yes, Mayor. I move that we go into executive s session for real estate. [0:59:43, 0:59:45]: Personnel litigation. In a second. [0:59:46, 0:59:47]: Okay, on fair, please indicate. [0:59:49, 0:59:50]: All right. Ladies and gentlemen, [0:59:51, 1:00:10]: Request. Yes, yes sir. Go ahead, please. I'm I'm I'm in agreement and approve. I'd like to request uh Mr. Wigan join us in executive session. Sure. Mr. Wiggins will join us. He's he's present. Thank you. Okay, thank you. All once again, all in favor of going to executive session, please indicate. Thank you very much. Ladies and gentlemen, we'll be back after executive session. Thank you.

--- title: Work Session Meeting date: 2022-04-26 source: 2022-04-26_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:01:47, 0:01:50]: What's that? Yeah. [0:02:30, 0:02:39]: [176.8, 180.0]: [0:03:26, 0:03:27]: [208.4, 215.0]: I got one thing. [0:03:40, 0:03:43]: Yes, I heard you have'cause I do have system up here. [0:03:54, 0:03:55]: [236.4, 237.3]: Yeah. [0:04:01, 0:04:17]: No, let's go back now because it's the left as well. [0:04:19, 0:04:21]: Yeah. [0:04:30, 0:04:50]: Well well. I'd like to call our uh council work session uh to order Tuesday, April 26 and 6 p.m. And on that note, uh give occasion please uh Pastor Lavelle seven. [0:04:50, 0:04:53]: [304.3, 324.3]: Let us all pray. Praise God, we are grateful tonight that we're able to do something that hasn't happened in a couple of years, and that is a gathering for this council to come together to provide leadership for this city and to do it in person. [0:05:24, 0:05:44]: Thank you for the gift of that space and for each person that's here this evening. We thank you for Mayor Ford. We thank you for each councilperson. We thank you for other appointed and elected officials that are here this evening, other constituents in the community. We are grateful for a space where I [0:05:44, 0:06:04]: ideas are shared, where plans are formulated, and that they're all done on behalf of all the citizens. We pray for your wisdom, your guidance, your peace to be upon in this room, and that you will touch the heart of each person is here. Bless each household is representative. [0:06:04, 0:06:24]: Please continue to bless the city, Stockbridge. We pray that you will have your way during this time together this evening. And God, I know that there are people from different perspectives, different religious traditions, and so I acknowledge that. [0:06:24, 0:06:35]: Everyone that is gathered here and those that might be wanting. In the name of my Lord and Savior Jesus the Christ. Amen. [0:06:36, 0:06:49]: [410.0, 410.6]: Yeah. [0:06:51, 0:06:53]: And broke what about blades? [0:07:20, 0:07:40]: Thank you, Madam Court. Appreciate that. Um council, I mean the uh dots in agenda will actually I mean the amendments in the agenda for tonight. Yes, sir. Um I motion to amend the agenda to remove agenda item number three. If you can have the board of education. [0:07:40, 0:08:00]: Presentation. I'd like to add agenda item 10, city resolution approved 7, intergovernmental development agreement, agenda item 11, 2nd, intergovernmental development agreement. [0:07:59, 0:08:19]: And agenda item 12, city resolution regarding restatement of the DDA activation and clarification of the DDA's name. [0:08:35, 0:08:55]: Fantastic. Um what we have before you are review of the minutes, from the council meeting in um March 14th and the council work session uh 29th. If you need those, we changes please uh discuss that and get those changes to the clerk, and we'll be able to approve those minutes at our very next. [0:08:54, 0:09:10]: uh counseling. Um and I just want to take no this is this public comments. This is another public house, okay. Well let me just do this. I'll I'll I I [0:09:17, 0:09:19]: Um and and it's a virtual still. [0:09:20, 0:09:25]: We have protecting this aspect as best as possible. Um granted uh [0:09:30, 0:09:40]: left and right and see what's going on, right? So anyway it's all good thing, but folks I really appreciate the the citizens and those who are listening in and also uh for the audience that's out here [0:09:55, 0:09:59]: and the Well Authority Board presented by Mr. Peterson Quick. [0:10:02, 0:10:03]: Mm-hmm. [0:10:06, 0:10:26]: The D Team Mayor, Council, and Citizens. I'm Alan Peterson, Economic Development Director, and in that role I also serve as the Downtown Development Authority of Liaison. The DDA has a vacancy and the DDA would like to nominate Miss Rangela Merritt to serve uh to fill that vacancy. Uh Ms. Merritt, Miss Merritt is uh very qualified. [0:10:26, 0:10:46]: She has an MBA and MBA. She's a 17-year citizen in the city of Stockbridge. She also works for ATT as a tower strategy strategist. She deals with groaming. She also deals with network infrastructure, and she will soon be in the supply chain division of ATT. I have the pleasure of [0:10:46, 0:10:55]: Speaking with Miss Merritt this afternoon, and she's excited the readings get their birth. Thank you, sir. [0:10:55, 0:11:15]: questions and comments in reference uh to the process when it's pointing to the closer about with uh renomination as representative the DDA the uh filling the denomination friend uh [0:11:15, 0:11:35]: Maybe we'll live to a third world report. Alright, fantastic. Thank you, Mr. Peter Syndicate. Thank you, Ms. Mayor, for joining the BDA. New business, council consideration or approves of list of [0:11:34, 0:11:40]: for the use of speaker touching devices was led by Chief Travel and Sergeant Tom [0:11:48, 0:11:50]: [710.3, 714.3]: Well here we can [0:11:55, 0:12:05]: I'll be good as every county. We just want to have one. We got it. I don't time. See you in time. I'm Mr. Mr. Good evening. Thank you, Mayor and Council. [0:12:06, 0:12:10]: to release to the presentation is this this evening there are a couple of uh [0:12:10, 0:12:21]: A couple of things procedurally have to happen. Obviously there are a lot of different uh legal processes that have to be put in place in order for us to be able to fully operate and platform spectrum of those services. [0:12:21, 0:12:25]: [749.8, 769.8]: Within the city limits. That after approval of the governing body also has to be approved by the state. And the purpose of this presentation this evening is one for the council to consider and hopefully approve the utilization of speed detection devices within our jurisdiction. But with the end in mind, [0:12:49, 0:12:50]: Yeah. [0:12:52, 0:12:53]: Rashes. [0:12:53, 0:13:10]: and other uh serious injury uh traffic incidents uh involving members of our community and those commuting through the city. Um this is a three part process so that you all understand the first part of obtaining our speed detection permit is that [0:13:10, 0:13:15]: be a resolution by the council which we will get into the specific details of that here in just a moment. [0:13:25, 0:13:25]: Ways. [0:13:35, 0:13:55]: Um rules that govern it, which Sergeant McElbank will speak to here in just a moment. And then the final is we have these things, we have the resolution when council approves the list of roadways, we then have to submit a permit or application to the state in order to receive our permit in order to enforce uh speed violations within the city limits of time range. [0:14:15, 0:14:21]: speed uh limits within the city is not rich to keep our community safe. Uh sorry to vacuum if you will. [0:14:25, 0:14:45]: Mayor, Council Grimmer, thank you. Appreciate the opportunity to address y'all. So uh in order for us to use speed detection devices necessarily things like radar or live bars that we use to measure the speed to enforce uh traffic law um are [0:14:45, 0:15:05]: The city needs to call for a permit that's issued by the state. Now there's several rules that we need to abide by in order to have to happen. There's a requirements that for the utilization of the speed detection devices that we need to maintain for the permit cyber for the permit being approved by the Department of Public Safety at the state level. [0:15:05, 0:15:25]: So first off, the governing body, which is the all, needs to approve through a resolution that speeding is an issue here in the city of Stockbridge, that the Stockbridge Police Department is an agency that has the ability to enforce traffic laws within city limits and that you allow us to use speed detection devices. [0:15:25, 0:15:45]: Specifically the supply large and gray large as I mentioned earlier, in order to detect people's feet that are going way too fast and causing all the crashes that we're having issues with. In addition to that, there are certain signage requirements that's required in order for us to be able to stay within the communist law. Thankfully, Henry County Police Department [0:15:45, 0:16:05]: Had a permit that included many of the city streets and state routes that run through the city of Stockbridge, because that sign is totally replaced. So that's not an expense that we would have to incur. We just need to maintain the signage in the future. But I don't foresee that being an issue. Lastly, there is a list of roadways that's divided into two different sections, one called [0:16:05, 0:16:10]: on a system, which are state routes, like uh Georgia 138, Georgia 42. [0:16:11, 0:16:18]: And then all system roads, which are city streets, uh like Rock Barter Road, portions of Cliff Road, so [0:16:20, 0:16:40]: So the resolution, um, again, like I mentioned, uh, would pertain to uh y'all were committed to making a decree saying that speeding vehicles in a through the city in Stockbridge pose a serious threat to public health safety and welfare city in Stockbridge. Now uh in support of that, I want to show y'all some traffic crash statistics over. [0:16:40, 0:17:00]: the last couple of years that I came from the Georgia Department of Transportation. So from 2018 to 2021, we've seen about 662 crash increase. And by 2018, inside the single stock bridge, we had about 1337 crashes on the road. [0:16:59, 0:17:16]: 1429 to 19, 1569 in 2020, 1999 in 2021. That's a significant increase. So with crashes become injuries, people get hurt or worse. So being able to for speed loss. [0:17:18, 0:17:35]: reduces the frequency of crashes, hopefully people become better educated what what the speed limits are on the roadways. And lowering speeds lowers the severity of engines. Hopefully we won't have any more residents if we can kill the car crashes and road if we're able to influence the speed laws. [0:17:36, 0:17:45]: Um in addition to the resolution, uh you will need to authorize the stock rich police department as a lawful entity to exercise the tower. [0:17:50, 0:18:10]: It's court in the municipal court judge gives us the power to do that. Further, you need to declare that the city stock breaker wants us to use the speed detection devices by our officers that's consistent with the laws of the state for our purpose, which is to reduce the use of fragments. [0:18:15, 0:18:16]: So the speed catcher probably. [0:18:20, 0:18:40]: That speed detective devices are authorized by our agency doctors department. Posting assigns of boundary areas and public travels has already been in place by the Henry County Police Department for their permit, which many of the roads take it back office. And the list of the roadways and locations where devices can be operated on. [0:18:40, 0:18:46]: I've already put that together in the order of firmways and testimonies. It's already been vetted by the Corporate Department of Transportation. [0:18:48, 0:19:05]: So what you have before you right now is a list of roadways that are on escape routes. And if you'll notice the ones that are not highlighted are roadways in the school zone that was currently in place on the Himmer County Police Department's speed detection program. [0:19:08, 0:19:10]: News that in your county. [0:19:10, 0:19:11]: Yeah. [0:19:12, 0:19:20]: those roadways meant the criteria to be included on the park arm. So I give this extra coverage to help keep people from speeding so much. [0:19:20, 0:19:25]: Uh and that includes one additional school, uh equals any person, they're on how to think. [0:19:29, 0:19:38]: This next slide shows the off-system roadways. And what I meant by that earlier was the ones that are not on the state route, those are city streets, county roads. [0:19:39, 0:19:55]: And again, the ones that are not highlighted are ones that the Henry County Police Department had already been permitted to operate speed of two license. The ones in yellow are additional inclusions that for some reason or another were not included on the Henry County Department State. [0:19:55, 0:20:00]: Form of transportation says those roads are all by roads, you know, the wrong speed connection by the song. [0:20:05, 0:20:15]: Like does anybody have uh I we won't involve the entertainment questions uh from the American Council besides that way of [0:20:19, 0:20:32]: crash indicator in the period of time that and that dramatic increase in crashes. So [0:20:33, 0:20:51]: We from 2020 to 2021, we went from 1569 to 1999. Of course 2020 was the pandemic, but 2019 was you know less than that. So wow, that's [0:20:51, 0:21:06]: Councilman, uh the only thing that I can uh add to that is the city's dockridge is not the only place that's experiencing an update in in vehicle crashes. It's statewide. We all feel it in our pocketbooks when it comes time to our insurance. Um [0:21:35, 0:21:55]: Crash beginning so they got themselves home because it wasn't a crash beginning. So being able to address the issue of speeding and thankfully the city police department enforcing other traffic policy, but along with it, our our game, our our goal, number one for our is to reduce the frequency of these crashes. [0:21:55, 0:22:03]: But citizens and travelers inside the city at the same time. [0:22:04, 0:22:24]: Yeah the the the thing that I'm looking at is looking at these numbers from twenty eighteen to twenty nineteen, uh you know a little under a hundred, then you know then we go uh about a hundred and thirty and forty uh and then we have this dramatic increase of [0:22:23, 0:22:43]: Of three hundred and thirty uh in one year. That's a lot. Or I know you said it went up, but obviously that's something that uh certainly needs to be looked into further to see uh where these crashes are coming from. Oh absolutely, Councilman. And uh I and working [0:22:43, 0:23:03]: with the Georgia Department of Transportation to provide us the raw data with contributing factors of the exact reasons why as reported that these crashes occur, or we'd be able to better make a game plan to address the factors that contribute to these wrecks to you know we kind of start at the top and what are our way down. So you know crashes [0:23:03, 0:23:23]: speed related by by speed enforcement we'll be able to knock that number down paper. Okay, the second question I think the chief uh we are talking about uh speed school zone speed zone detective cameras and uh does this affect that or how does that work in terms of what councilman in [0:23:23, 0:23:43]: in in order for that to occur, a permit must first be issued by the state. Uh the the uh speed zone camera for the school to automate the speed zone cameras for school zones uh cannot occur until a permit has been issued by the state of Georgia. And that that would be um sought after um and if we are [0:23:43, 0:23:56]: able to attend that they have permitted capability to to provide the council information about that. Yes sir, go ahead please. Thank you for the presentation. [0:23:58, 0:24:00]: I've seen schools on [0:24:11, 0:24:15]: There's nowhere on North Pember Boulevard. [0:24:18, 0:24:20]: And so I would like [0:24:40, 0:24:49]: So all these communities that people now have money in their pocket are gonna still make care of it and you're gonna see an increase. So I wanna see what's brought down for speed. [0:24:55, 0:25:15]: Because I'm pretty sure one of the hot spots for us would be uh Highway 138 uh pertaining to these uh to these members. And you and I'm I I'm able to break down the raw data that the Georgia Department of Transportation is giving me and and provide the council with lists of what the contributing factors are, be it failure to yield alternative level. [0:25:15, 0:25:30]: speeding following too close distract the driving so you can get an exact number uh for your review based on each of those contributing factors as of how many crashes happen because of that. Okay and also uh usually achievement [0:25:32, 0:25:52]: School zones very much for these uh restrictions being put in school zones, but make sure that when we find areas like we do have already here on uh uh one thirty uh up here in the boulevard, when you go from 45, what is the distance down to 35 before we can even be clocked? And so I want us to [0:25:52, 0:25:55]: Actually looking at data too because I want us to get into [0:26:05, 0:26:06]: Well [0:26:06, 0:26:26]: Yes, Councilman, and uh the we have the George Code um in the motor vehicle law section does deal with reductions or increases in speed limits to where an officer can or cannot run a speed detection device within a certain number of feet of that. Uh if if you come into a jurisdiction you can't do it within five hundred feet. [0:26:26, 0:26:46]: Of the edge of the jurisdiction, or if there's a reduction in speed, the person can't be within 300 feet of that. So that gives the driver an opportunity to both react to the sign and adjust their speed accordingly. That way it's not a gotcha. It's already codified in George Ball. Yeah, so I just uh informed the federal court. [0:26:46, 0:26:49]: I'd like to see that breakdown if you guys get the store on. [0:26:50, 0:26:55]: Because there's number is where, you know, they go pretty hard, so that's [0:26:56, 0:27:16]: If I could um just say a few things here. Um when we talk about speed detection, um there's a lot of I think emotions and connotations that that brings up with people and I know considering the history of the department that that may be a concern for some people, but I want you to understand that that that's not our intent in utilizing this. [0:27:16, 0:27:36]: Um obviously we want to do use it to recruit uh to reduce the number of crashes and serious injury accidents where that's a contributing factor. And there's specific state law that that that dictates it says if over 35% of your your your general fund comes from traffic citations, you're automatically looked at as a speed trap. [0:27:36, 0:27:56]: Certainly, are not going to be in that situation here. We are not, I just want to make it clear, we are not implementing this by any stretch of the imagination to uh it's not a revenue-generating thing. So, for the benefit of the public, I wanted everybody to understand and appreciate here that we're using that to reduce the number of accidents. Just so you know, this is comp this is the complete data for 20. [0:27:56, 0:28:16]: 2021, but as of the end of March, there were 644 traffic crashes within the city limits of Stockbridge, which means that if we average that out through the end of the year, that we're going to surpass the 1,999 crashes that we'll be looking at well over 2,500 crashes within the city limits if we continue with that trajectory, which it's already tracked. [0:28:16, 0:28:36]: Trending in that direction to begin with. And so you all know, as you we're talking about the school uh cameras that Henry County currently has in place, we've actually already been talking with some folks, and they came out and they did a speed study for the schools, specifically Stockbridge Elementary School out here. In the span of 24 hours, there were nine. [0:28:36, 0:28:52]: 990-some speed violations were recorded in the school zone during the school hours. So you can just see the the issue, the prevalence of that here. And I just wanted to impress upon you all that it is an issue. It is something that we need to be concerned about. [0:28:54, 0:29:14]: And Chief, on that note, uh you mentioned about for this first quarter, so three hundred uh six hundred and sixty, I guess, on the trend for accident accidents. 664, yes. So maybe not missed it. What what's what's really causing it? What do you think is causing it? anybody here with this meeting or any anything in particular that you can highlight that maybe you cause? [0:29:14, 0:29:34]: Well to Calcuman Blount's point into Sergeant McElvain's, we really have to get granular into the data and look at the contributing factors for the accidents to really break it down and identify what are the key contributing factors. What we see, you know, the trend tends to be a lot of us distracted driving. We see a lot of texting and driving, uh, too close for conditions, things a lot. [0:29:33, 0:29:53]: Along those lines, but but speed also, as was evidenced by the peace funding, could be a contributing factor to some of those crashes we've seen too. But we would have to, and we can present to council with that level of detail regarding these crashes and what the issues are. So that you all understand, everything that we intend to do as a police department will be the enforcement actions we take will be based on. [0:29:53, 0:30:13]: data that we receive. So we're implementing an intelligent model of policing. So we're using a data driven approach to traffic enforcement. So we'll be looking at those areas where we're having a high number of accidents and we'll be looking at the contributing factors and we will be forcing uh enforcing the laws out there as it relates to the contributing factors and the hotspot locations where we're experiencing these incidents. [0:30:13, 0:30:33]: Thank you, I appreciate that. Uh yes sir, what did you have? Gee, you pretty much just answered my question in that statement that you just made to uh but in analyzing where the uh detectives are, uh I think you answered the other question. [0:30:33, 0:30:53]: location are being driven by data. That's correct. Yes sir. Okay. Um it appears that there are some sections uh in the city that are not included. So assuming that the data does not bear now [0:30:53, 0:31:13]: If I could clarify, sir, that these locations that have been provided to the council are not problem locations per se. There are requirements which I'll let you speak to here um that govern where you can enforce speech. So if you could maybe educate the council. Yes. So councilman [0:31:13, 0:31:33]: In order for us to include a road that was not previously included on a speed permit, many of our roadways are mimicked from Henry County PDs, so they're grandfathered in. In order for us to include a new roadway, it needs to be at least one quarter of a mile long. And un unfortunately, a lot of our city [0:31:33, 0:31:53]: limit it's fragmented. Hopefully that's taken care of at the end of the year, at least in the northern half of the of the city. So we'll be able to include a more substantial list of roadways if those roadways qualify based on our intelligence fearing model for identifying the these roads. [0:31:53, 0:32:12]: So this is pretty much an ongoing process. Yes sir. Yes, sir. And and should we receive complaints from citizens and and and on other roads that may not have been considered for this initial one, we can do a study to see if that road will be qualified to be put on the speed permit in order to address those citizen complaints. [0:32:13, 0:32:31]: Last question, uh about um zones, um as far as detectives, so will the city of Downgree be divided up into zones and attention will be paid to uh traffic issues uh in those zones? [0:32:32, 0:32:49]: I I don't want to speak for Chief Tramor, but i with regards to patrol zones for people taking calls. Uh r responding to traffic complaints would be a a singular issue and the officer assigned to what people do. Well d just even uh accidents and various um [0:32:50, 0:33:05]: Yes, sir. So we just finished drawing the geography and there will be four sectors, four patrol sectors that officers will be pri primarily assigned to. The officers that are assigned to those sectors will be working those sectors consistently. [0:33:08, 0:33:10]: Be responsible for [0:33:15, 0:33:35]: What's the issue? What's going on here? There may be other mitigation, speed mitigation or traffic mitigation strategies that we can implement in order to address the issues beyond simply enforcement. Those officers assigned to those sectors will be responsible for being familiar with the problems in those areas and then appropriately addressing those issues as they come up. [0:33:35, 0:33:55]: Thank you. Anybody else now say good? Well fantastic. I appreciate it. So uh what we need now is the motion to uh accept uh this aspect of uh the list of roadways and speed detention devices that are needed. [0:33:54, 0:34:05]: Now the motion was full. Is there a second? Mr. Bob seconds that motion. Now that's no further discussion. [0:34:07, 0:34:16]: Quick question. When when we'cause I look at these streets and I guess when you get up on the southern end of this the the city [0:34:19, 0:34:20]: That remains. [0:34:29, 0:34:30]: versus [0:34:30, 0:34:50]: And neighborhoods, mainstream. Is that what we're looking at? I think if uh the uh most the the roadways that are on the on the limit, many of them do not include like subdivisions. Right. Is that what you're referring to, Councilman? Yes. Um in order to include those, because oftentimes roadway design and population density lead to what the post-its [0:34:50, 0:35:10]: Speed limit should be. And in subdivisions, oftentimes the posted speed limit is lower than what the road was designed for, so it cannot be automatically included into a speed permit. In order to include it, we would need to do a traffic study, which is collect average vehicle per day per day data, crash data, how many driveways. [0:35:10, 0:35:30]: Or in a certain stretch of mileage, sorry, on-street parking, off-street parking, those things, and which requires a consultant to do that and then present that data to GDOT to vet before they would approve anything like that to be included to a speed permit. So should roadways like that be identified, more than happy to bring you. [0:35:30, 0:35:50]: to begin that process, but as of right now at the start of our agency and getting a permit approved, which is the most difficult task, is getting the initial permit in place. The list of roadways is what qualified right off the bat without having a significant delay in applying for a permit. That could take several months. [0:35:50, 0:35:56]: Well then I'm just questioning then why don't we see anything on here with less than bridges and quite [0:35:58, 0:36:18]: Because the uh um Eagles Lening Parkway, I did look at that area, Councilman, and in order for me to include a roadway that wasn't already on Henry County's permit as being listed inside the city limits of Stockbridge, I rely on the GS map GIS mapping because that told us exactly where the edge of the city limits was. [0:36:18, 0:36:30]: and those sections of roadway were not included inside the city. On the curb the shoulder was, but the roadways themselves were not within the city limits. So therefore because it wasn't on a GIS mapping system [0:36:30, 0:36:50]: Department did GDAT would have proven to be included on the uh this roads. Alright, if no further questions, uh motions of made a second, so all paper motion was indicated. All right. And now it's just a thank you to that. Council consideration to fill vacancies and appoint and uh members uh to stop rest ethics. [0:36:50, 0:36:53]: Next board. Mr. Washington, please. [0:36:54, 0:37:07]: Maybe counsel. We only have two members that are in your alignment that would be that can be appointed from the mayor. It's not a key statement. Ms. Watson, if you don't mind, sir, could you could you come forward with this? Yeah. Thank you. [0:37:18, 0:37:20]: Thank you, Dan. Appreciate it. [0:37:21, 0:37:35]: We only have two members for your s uh selection, Miss Jenkins and Mr. Johnson for the ethics board. And the information that we have is attached and you all can make the decision as your leader. [0:37:36, 0:37:42]: All right, um any questions and concerns uh the council about these uh televisions? [0:37:46, 0:38:05]: No? Any motion to accept these individuals in the part of that board? Motion? Some move? Yes, sir. Okay, but this this part made a motion to set the motion. I'll forgive you, sir. Okay, but this uh holiday. I'll put the hand in the name. [0:38:08, 0:38:25]: Yes. Mr. Darren Johnson or either Daron Johnson, that's D-E-R-O-N, last name Johnson J-O-H N S O N. And Miss Angela Myers-Jenkins who is currently on the board, she wishes to remain on the board. And Mr. Duron Johnson will be a new member. [0:38:26, 0:38:46]: Okay. Motion is said. All in favor of motion is indicated? Okay, you have all favor? Uh opposed? Sustained? Are you in favor? Okay, I'm sorry, you can't sustain. You're both in favor. Okay, thank you very much. As a question number on that, I guess uh it's up to me uh to as mayor to select uh chair [0:38:46, 0:39:06]: that particular that particular ethics board which would be an attorney. So I need to look look I have a couple attorneys in line so I just want to make sure that I need that you get an attorney so it'll be head of the board will be fully active this aspect. So that's all I need. So I want that to the council, the citizen, and to that individual that would accept that responsibility. Thank you. [0:39:06, 0:39:08]: Yeah. [0:39:11, 0:39:31]: Alright, what's next? Council consideration to review and approve the design concept for Cultural Arts Center presented by District Gardner. And uh Ms. Carter and uh Ms. Hubble and I have Carl on on here as well. So we've got a we've got a big group that's gonna give us this presentation. [0:39:31, 0:39:32]: Yeah. [0:39:34, 0:39:36]: Alright. [0:39:36, 0:39:39]: Good evening, Council members may have you. [0:39:40, 0:39:41]: [2381.8, 2390.0]: Alright, so tonight we come to you with cloud consultants um to discuss the uh cultural art center and tonight [0:39:50, 0:40:10]: We're looking at is about four designs that were developed by the consultants, each of those coming with a different individual price point as it relates to and um architectural schemes for you to look at and give us some recommendation as to which design scheme. [0:40:10, 0:40:29]: uh his best to move forward with. Tonight, uh Heather is here to give a presentation and then after the presentation, um, we'll take some questions from the council and look forward for some direction as to its read, which are one of the concepts is best to move forward with. [0:41:45, 0:41:45]: Mm-hmm. [0:41:53, 0:41:59]: Good evening. It's so good to see you in person. So thank you for the opportunity tonight to present. [0:42:00, 0:42:04]: I'll stand with me, that's a circle. [0:42:04, 0:42:24]: So, status update on the project. So, the design team has completed the schematic design set for the Art Center. The importance of the schematic design center, the schematic design set, was so that we could get detailed pricing. This included interaction from all the engineers, the theater design. [0:42:24, 0:42:37]: structural engineer, acoustician, MEP engineer, interior designer, and of course TSW. So this was an important set for us. We knew we needed to get better pricing on the Art Center. [0:42:40, 0:43:00]: Um wanted to talk about the design process really quick. So before the schematic design set was done, we were just in this kind of first loop you see, which is the kind of concept design, which is you know a quick uh amount of work usually done between one week and a month. [0:43:00, 0:43:20]: It usually just includes the architect. There's not a ton of interaction with the engineers. So we knew we needed to move beyond that, which is why we're now in the schematic iteration of design. After the schematic, there are additional iterations of design, and these are important. [0:43:20, 0:43:40]: important loops because we can process we can move the design forward, we can get updated pricing on each iteration, we can get feedback from the city and staff, and we can review overall and coordinate better. So this is a typical design process, so we are just in a schematic iteration. [0:43:40, 0:43:50]: which is why we have this updated construction cost. So after this we'll have design development iteration as well as two construction document sets. [0:43:53, 0:44:13]: Just wanted to remind you of past kind of concept iterations we've done. We have been working on this art center for for several years. It has it has shrunk and stretched as we talk about budget, as we kind of tune into what's really important for the city and what they want out of their art center. [0:44:15, 0:44:35]: So this is what the schematic floor plan looks like. It's not quite uh what the concepts were or the um yeah, the concepts. Um there were you know some pushes and pulls on this. Uh pushes and pulls theater-wise, pushes and pulls for adding program back in. Uh, but this was [0:44:35, 0:44:40]: kind of optimal program uh to move forward with for the schematic. [0:44:42, 0:45:02]: So we did complete detailed costing with ADE construction consultants. And this is what they do. They cost buildings for a profession, and they're very good at it. The cost estimate is about 30 pages of detailed work. They did go to subcontractors. [0:45:02, 0:45:22]: Who are active in the field to make sure that what they're quoting us is correct. And we did come in over the approved 18 million project budget. So the schematic is sitting at 32.5%. [0:45:22, 0:45:23]: Yeah. [0:45:27, 0:45:47]: So why are we over budget? So this is not uncommon in the design process to come in over budget. This is why we do iterative design, so that we can come back, check ourselves, see what the cost is, build in more detail, and make sure that we're doing the project that we should be and within budget. [0:45:47, 0:46:07]: So you know that's the good news. Other reasons for why we're where we're at, there's continual pressure to kind of add things into the project, which is it's a good thing. We want the project to be the best that it can be. Some examples of those are classrooms have been added back into the mix. [0:46:07, 0:46:27]: Covered side entrance, which really wasn't imagined at the get-go. Streetscapes have been added. The park, which we always knew was going to be added, has been more fully designed and increased in size. Art walks have been added, etc. So that's one reason why we are over budget. Another reason. [0:46:27, 0:46:38]: is we have experienced inflation in a manner that we did not anticipate in 2018, which does contribute to what we're seeing. The new cost numbers take into account that inflation. [0:46:39, 0:46:44]: And then the other thing is just the want of making this the best facility we could. [0:46:44, 0:46:52]: Detailed if uh feedback from the engineers did add to this cost increase that we saw. So we can manage some of that. [0:46:54, 0:47:08]: So wanted to talk about where we go from here. So we have options and that's why we're still at the schematic level, so that we can prepare, redirect, and be able to move forward in budget. [0:47:09, 0:47:27]: So the schematic uh has been designed to kind of a best decide. Uh uh we probably need to take uh see if the council has any questions uh slides before we continue to the whole presentation. And on that note, uh we'll start with Mr. Blount with his question. [0:47:28, 0:47:34]: When we first came at the city to TSW for design. [0:47:35, 0:47:55]: We was looking at 14 million. And then used we were told by TFW that to get what we want, what we knew to have in those in those designs, we're going to go back up to about 18 million. And this is what we agreed to. [0:47:55, 0:48:00]: You talk about inflation, you talk about all these added costs. You talk about a design now that is almost [0:48:00, 0:48:20]: double what you said we'll think we do. And at this point we're talking before we go into the glamour, I think we need to stick to the specifics and how do we almost double the cost that we were talking about filling this amateur and that you said we could deal, but not at four [0:48:20, 0:48:40]: but at 18 million, I don't want us tiptoeing across 32 point whatever million dollars because it would be awesome limits. I'm looking at what the city's gonna be with the city and what we're doing and with our time and what we're looking at because I don't know anybody who would think about 32 million dollars. [0:48:39, 0:48:50]: Sure, of course. So um every time that we've talked about cost in the past with council, it's been a rough order of magnitude and there has been a range. [0:48:50, 0:49:10]: Council always keyed in in that range to a specific cost. And a lot of times you came to the middle or tried to be conservative, and I think that is absolutely the right way to go. So we had a range, council picked, we progressed with design, and I [0:49:10, 0:49:30]: Give you these four bulletin points of why we're where we're at. Now, what I'm here to say tonight is that we can bring costs back down within budget. It's called value engineering. And I'm going to give you four options for doing that. But yes, the project is over budget. [0:49:29, 0:49:30]: At this point. [0:49:31, 0:49:33]: Yeah, but wouldn't it have been? [0:49:34, 0:49:36]: A meeting of minds. [0:49:38, 0:49:58]: At this point, instead of bringing us a$32 million project, wouldn't it have been minded to find out which direction this council wants to go? Instead of telling us we're here now because of this, this, this, now let's break it down. [0:49:58, 0:50:04]: wonder and then but we could go into this if we want to get to that. I mean just it just seemed like we'll have a work with that was it. [0:50:05, 0:50:12]: So I'm I'm not exactly sure what you mean as meeting of the minds. Um meaning of the minds means that you have a budget. [0:50:13, 0:50:14]: A big seen. [0:50:15, 0:50:32]: that we had talked about. That's meeting other minds. Sure. And now you kind of put the project over 32 million dollars. That's the if I'm saying look when you when there's something outside this part side of the budget and you show us it will be too for me. I'm only one council. [0:50:33, 0:50:53]: I would have liked to have seen what we could get for what we've already said we're gonna do versus showing this and then obviously how we cut down to that. But versus showing this and how we need to go up to that. And that's what we're what we're doing. So that that's the point of iterative design. So we're open and honest uh about where we are. [0:50:53, 0:51:11]: and uh how we need to go forward. So if council says go back to the drawing board, we want you to only do 18 million and I do have one scheme in here that gets close to that, then that's what we'll do. But this is to give you options. [0:51:12, 0:51:30]: At this point, I guess uh I want to try to piggyback on Council Blonde's comments. Um, you know, we have met several times. The very last time we met, uh and you presented [0:51:32, 0:51:41]: My understanding was when we saw what we can get for 18 million because we can fluctuate from 14 to 18. [0:51:42, 0:51:45]: In my own man, it would be that [0:51:45, 0:52:05]: I'm here in California and this land as well. I mean, speaking of just spoke, that this is where we were. So we left that last meeting thinking that this is what we were, and this is what we were getting. Um we talked about, and I asked the question simply about the schedule. [0:52:05, 0:52:05]: Yeah. [0:52:06, 0:52:10]: in um in design for those. [0:52:15, 0:52:35]: Why was it why was it taking so long? Because we had mentioned uh December 2022, January 2023. So from that last presentation, we thought it was a go. So at no time from that time [0:52:35, 0:52:55]: Here we are now April, I won't say May in 2022. And now we'll start to get this. And I'm a little confused myself why uh TFW did not come back to the city of Doctor and say, okay, this is where we are. [0:52:55, 0:53:06]: And we need to make some adjustments. And I don't know, maybe let me ask this question. So at what point did you reach out to the city and say, well, Houston, we have a problem? [0:53:06, 0:53:26]: Sure. So um as as soon as the schematic design set was done uh and the pricing was done, we reached out to the city. Um we have meetings scheduled uh with staff um every other week. Uh so but there's a lot of decision making that needs to go on behind uh this [0:53:26, 0:53:46]: scenes uh and and making sure that we're bringing information to the council um that you uh that is prepped ready and gives you options um so you know this is where we're at now so at our last meeting and we settled at 18 meeting [0:53:46, 0:53:49]: So [0:53:50, 0:54:00]: What what did we agree on? What did we agree to at 18 meeting? We thought that this was it. When we wrong in our assumption. [0:54:02, 0:54:03]: Um [0:54:04, 0:54:04]: So [0:54:05, 0:54:06]: I don't know what you [0:54:06, 0:54:26]: I would not say wrong, um, but I'm trying to kind of give you my perspective of kind of why we'll be at. Uh and and there are some reasons. There are there are pressures on the project to cut to kind of add things in to that eighteen million that are stressing it. Um, you know, and I've [0:54:26, 0:54:46]: Listed some of those here. So some of the value engineering work is to pull some of that back out and say that that could be done as a separate project. It doesn't have to strain this project so much. Because developing a park and updating streetscapes and adding classrooms back into the [0:54:46, 0:54:52]: the project which w were not a direction of this council. Um [0:54:52, 0:55:12]: It it stresses the budget and it and the budget um shouldn't be taken that on. In my opinion. Right. Uh l let me say this, and uh you know uh men that are realtor in the profession that I'm in and every last one of us watches H G [0:55:12, 0:55:32]: You've seen that episode where there's a wish list, and then the property brothers or the agent takes them to this house that they listed everything that they wanted on it. And then he announces the price tag to them. [0:55:32, 0:55:52]: Like, oh, they're like, oh yeah, this is the house that we wanted. It's the dream house that we wanted. And then he springs the price on them, and it's way out of the budget that they wanted to be in. And that's the one thing that I've understood about this process from the beginning. Every time one of us says, Oh, can I have this? They said, sure. [0:55:52, 0:55:55]: Yeah, you can have that. [0:55:55, 0:56:15]: Can we have this and yeah, but every time you say, can we have this and can we have that? Well, any project, all of us need to understand. Anytime we say, can you have this, the consultant is never going to say no. They're always going to say, sure, you can have it. But every time they say that, the cash register wins. [0:56:15, 0:56:35]: And understanding this, and I'm gonna say this with all the clarity that I can. Thank God we built the empathy when we did it. You know what? Look at the interest rates now, five percent. Look at the cost of all the materials and everything. [0:56:34, 0:56:54]: Now, when we built the amphitheater in the middle of the pandemic, there was no labor shortage. They were glad to get the work. Look where we are now. We're starting to build that facility now. And the police to say, let's do more than one project at a time, because if we'd have done that project in the middle of the [0:56:54, 0:57:14]: pandemic, think about how different we would be right now in terms of where we are. I think what we should do honestly is that Ms. Humble has a presentation that she's going to give us what we have, bringing it back down to where we want to be at, and then we'll have to make a decision because, you know, obviously we got here [0:57:14, 0:57:34]: You are here. Obviously, you know, there was some lack of communication in there where there could have been some lag time, because I did, as Councilman Thomas said, I asked why it was going to take so long to do a whole year of a schematic, because they were schematic in a$322 million building. [0:57:34, 0:57:54]: That takes longer. That's probably going to take the whole year versus the$18 million bill. But at some point somebody should have said, listen, I gotta stand up to the council. I gotta like we gotta put the hard numbers to the paper so we cannot keep living this fantasy of we can afford this facility with all the bells and whistles in it. [0:57:54, 0:58:14]: And that's what we are now. Every last one of us have seen that episode of HD TV where you sit down and the consultant takes them out and they see the price and they go like they fall in love with the home and then the price tag hits them and he takes them to the house that they can actually afford. Right now she's taking us to the house that we can actually afford. [0:58:14, 0:58:34]: We gotta hear the presentation out, but what you know how we got here and all of that, obviously there were some errors made and there's some accounting for that to be had. Ms. Robin question, please. Yes. So I do support um the culture art system. However, disappointment, disappointed because um I don't [0:58:34, 0:58:54]: I don't support the open budget. We have a project manager whose responsibility is to ensure that we stay with the budget. We can feel that it's cost over. I don't agree with that. The council has a [0:58:54, 0:59:14]: Approve an$18 million budget for the construction of the Cold R Center. We need to stick with that. I won't approve anything more than that. Mr. Trevadon, I hope, have been a part of your meetings and conversations. [0:59:14, 0:59:34]: It would stick with the budget as it was approved. The other schematics, um weren't there costs associated with Joan's schematics? Meaning professional fees? Yes. Um no the sit we're [0:59:34, 0:59:50]: There have not been um additional fees requested if that's your concern. But yes, um Carl has been involved in the bi-weekly meetings and he is helping direct those as well. [0:59:50, 1:00:10]: I understand with inflation, the labor costs, construction, material cost, all of this is up. So with inflation and trying to construct a building right now, it's not the time at all, which is why. [1:00:10, 1:00:15]: I don't support approving anything beyond the A T. [1:00:16, 1:00:24]: All right, but no questions right now, but Heather will continue on his presentation and I'll pretty sure there'll be some additional questions to follow. Sure, of course. [1:00:25, 1:00:45]: Um so uh we just talked about uh thirty-two point five uh million dollars for the schematic that was done in two thousand twenty-two, beginning of this year. Uh it does represent a best in class facility. Um so you know we felt that was important to get costed. Um we looked at three uh [1:00:44, 1:01:04]: Value options for the city. Value option one brings the project down to 24 million. It looks at cutting a little bit from all areas. Option number two is 19.2 million. Its attempt was to get in budget. [1:01:04, 1:01:24]: That VE is just a million off. We feel like we can continue the massage to get that project in budget. And then VE option number three. It was an attempt to go back and look at maintaining all the key program. [1:01:24, 1:01:44]: And then what that cost would be. And so it is at 25.3 million. I'm just gonna go over uh these three options briefly. Um so option number one, cutting all areas. Oh, I'm sorry, apologize. Um cutting all areas um [1:01:44, 1:01:55]: Um we cut uh items on the site, uh uh a lot of the park improvements off of the front of um North Henry. [1:01:56, 1:02:09]: Um we also looked at the building. We looked at the building as far as space-wise, uh, we looked at the building as far as aesthetics, um, we looked at the theater spaces as well and what could be cut there. [1:02:11, 1:02:31]: Um we also looked at what spaces could be built a shell, uh which you see in gray. Um and then actually uh meaning shell meaning that the structure's there, the floor's there, the roof is there, but it's not heated and cooled and the finishes aren't done. So there's some savings there that then you can come back after the fact and finish those pieces. [1:02:31, 1:02:51]: And this uh this uh VE option does reduce the seating in the theater. Um option number two, get within budget. Um this looked at these same items uh as option number one, um but in addition it [1:02:51, 1:03:00]: More, it cut more of the building as well. So we've taken the site down in this version to what we considered a minimum site. [1:03:01, 1:03:10]: And then we continue to cut the building as well as uh cutting the second floor entirely. Uh [1:03:11, 1:03:29]: The the the writing is extremely small. Could we come back and talk about what the components, uh the ballroom or anything or what we have uh in there for us because I can't really see what on ask the match what's included in this option? Sure. So um [1:03:31, 1:03:51]: You want me to go back to option number one? Or option number two? Number two. Okay, number two. Um number two, uh the keys that have been cut there. Um we've lost storage space uh under the stage. Uh this would be theater storage. Um we've lost the covered pull-in on the right-hand side. Um [1:03:51, 1:04:11]: We've um removed uh the brick from the building. Um we've also reduced the hood feature out front by about 50% and uh we have uh decreased the depth of the stage by six feet, which does save a lot of money. Um the reason it is so deep. [1:04:11, 1:04:28]: is to uh be able to have a fifty piece orchestra. See, it's not right, but see that's again, that's a core quest where we were talking and somebody said we needed a a big orchestra and then she said, sure, we can have it and then the price tag went up and already. [1:04:28, 1:04:37]: So uh the stage will work for all other kinds of performances except that one specific uh that one specific event. [1:04:37, 1:04:46]: So there are ballroom here and no room. Um in this option number two there is no ballroom. In option number one, there's a shell of a ballroom. [1:04:46, 1:05:06]: Okay. So this and this option number two and nineteen, there's no borrow on this one, and then number twenty. Go back to option number one eight. Metaphor. Could you give capacity when you speak to theater or [1:05:06, 1:05:26]: Sure, of course. Both option one and option two lose the balcony, which has 99 seats. It takes us down to 306 seats. We had built in into this best of class 405 seats. [1:05:26, 1:05:33]: Option one and option two, uh we lose seats. Option three, we have maintained those seats. [1:05:36, 1:05:46]: Yeah quote again for um option one and two uh the all is taken out and default. [1:05:46, 1:06:06]: Um in option number one, there's still the opportunity for a ballroom in the future. So it's built out as the shell and then you come back and do the finishes. And what remains? Oh, uh it's three hundred and twenty I believe, um and it has a bonus room that fits another forty, I believe. [1:06:06, 1:06:06]: [3966.9, 3986.9]: Well uh my number is that the theater and the ballroom evolved in three twenty. Yes, we started at uh three twenty before this iteration of uh schematic design. Um that was with uh side private boxes uh and through the programming [1:06:26, 1:06:46]: Questionnaire, we sit to council. We asked about those private boxes and if you preferred to keep them or gain some more seats in the theater. The overwhelming response was more seats in the theater. So that brought us up from 320 to 405. And that's that's where that comes in. [1:06:46, 1:07:05]: So in option two, the volume will be a capacity of 300. 306, yes, sir. In option two. Yes, sir. Uh the museum in option two. Um the museum and option s the museum stays in option. [1:07:06, 1:07:19]: One. But now in two. Um it also stays in option two. I do it. Thank you. Thank you. No problem. There's no ball roll in option number two, correct? [1:07:20, 1:07:21]: Right. [1:07:21, 1:07:41]: Okay and option number one, the ballroom you see there's a shell on the outside of the building that looks just like the rendering of look on the inside is completely unfinished when I would come back and finish it up at a later date, but it does put the um the physical the it puts up the structure. [1:07:41, 1:07:57]: necessary rather than having to tear into the building if you did go and have a bottle something. Is that what that's what you're saying? Right. Yeah. What's the square footage of a bottle when we use different out there? [1:07:57, 1:08:04]: I don't have that number on my head, sir. Because we can say we can we can say a number capacity. [1:08:06, 1:08:11]: Because you can get forty people on a bus or forty people can't dance or move around on the bus. [1:08:12, 1:08:32]: Great question. So the numbers I'm quoting are with tables and chairs. Technically, if you just had a standing room only event, you could have more people. And so I'm quoting numbers because council was mostly concerned about a sit-down dinner event. So the bottom can actually if you take up the tables and just have standing room only with [1:08:32, 1:08:52]: hot tail tables like high tops, um you can actually have more people than that already. So you are not a designer, but yet you don't have square footage in a designer? I I just don't have them in my head, sir. That's a for me, that's a very technical part that we need to know. That what if [1:08:52, 1:09:12]: square footage of these areas that you've talked about. What what square footage where we at we're reducing to to me and this whole scheme of things is very important for me. Sure, I would understand square footage. I would be glad to follow up with those numbers. That's helpful. Go ahead. [1:09:11, 1:09:20]: Um is Carter and Mr. Gardner. Could y'all come up? I want to ask a question. [1:09:29, 1:09:49]: My question to to both of you, we are here in this presentation tonight and uh we're looking at options, uh, decisions that have to be made. Um after this meeting tonight, uh what is the plan for uh staff and [1:09:49, 1:10:09]: council to come together to make decisions uh on these options. And the green I asked this question, uh and we're going to say come back, staff and council, I I don't really want to hold uh you know for me, the subject can just go through the presentation, we can come together and talk [1:10:09, 1:10:29]: I'll just, you know, start just a talk because I know some some decisions are going to be made. Now I don't know if the council maybe wants to be a drill down and get as much information as we can so we can make these decisions. So I'd like to hear from the council if we just want to hear the presentation. [1:10:29, 1:10:37]: And then we get with staff and try to get into the city, or do we want to hear the presentation and drill down? [1:10:37, 1:10:57]: Well go ahead and start. All right. Uh Councilmember Thomas, the goal was obviously to get you guys to see the options and um Burke and I just actually spoke about it and trying to meet with you guys probably two on two at a time, kinda go over um so you'd be able to see things in better detail. Uh [1:10:57, 1:11:17]: Um'cause it's kind of difficult to see it without being able to enlarge it. But we have some friends that would help and then kinda give consensus and come back to you guys and say, This is a question. I mean that's a typical question. And and those are kind of the I have a question, but I don't want it to fall off. Right, right. Um [1:11:17, 1:11:25]: And but these are just, you know, questions that that need to be answered. Yes, sir. So i di if it's if this the wish council [1:11:25, 1:11:45]: Um we can definitely sit down and meet with the council either individually or two, or more than one obviously, and then go over each of the different schemes and give our recommendation as well as listen to what recommendations you guys would have and then look at that as a consensus and then bring it back and as a group vote to who will either option. [1:11:45, 1:11:52]: one, two, three, or four. Um and then during that process, obviously uh the fire director and I will be looking at [1:11:53, 1:11:55]: Well how we how do we find answers? [1:11:55, 1:12:15]: I would love to hear from Dr. Calm. Well yeah, we'll do it. Uh let me let me say this. The intent was to uh my understanding, the intent was to allow Mr. Ludwig to to give a briefing uh in this aspect, but obviously it was a request and rightfully so to have some specific questions on some things that were shown on the presentation. I mean we can continue that. [1:12:19, 1:12:20]: Yeah. [1:12:20, 1:12:40]: in the briefing but eventually to make a decision obviously we'll have to come together and have some offline discussion uh because of such a big magnitude up under the cost factor here obviously and this aspect but uh I mean whatever how we want to go forward with a consensus on this uh but it's my thought process that initially this we'll go through the briefing on this [1:12:40, 1:13:00]: When people talk about amenities and these developments. [1:12:59, 1:13:07]: What is the amenity size? You can tell me you got a pool that could be classified as a pool, but what is the size? [1:13:08, 1:13:26]: When you say you had meetings with the city, the city representative is sitting right there, Mr. Carl, is sitting right there. I expect these this council to be updated by those that's supposed to update us, whether it's you, Mr. Carl, or whoever, but the register presentation. [1:13:27, 1:13:47]: That's lacking so much to satisfy what we're getting. You can show us designs, but if you don't have any sizes, and you're telling me that you're having meetings with the city, and this council has no idea what's going on until tonight, you can't spray this on the council. What are we trying to make a decision? [1:13:47, 1:14:07]: What are we trying to? What do you want to get out of this tonight? I'm agreeing that we need to have a meeting three and two, and we need to also get with uh this call. Because we need to know what is actually going on and why aren't we getting the information we need to make a sound decision on what is being presented tonight? [1:14:07, 1:14:27]: What are we trying to do today? I have no idea. With the information we have. I have no idea. But I think Doctor is get basically briefing and get the information and make it send you for a long time. Well, it starts out. Okay, Mr. Mr. Um Thank you to the president. [1:14:27, 1:14:47]: presentation you've done thus far. Um some of my concerns are that we do meet later and probably a three-two setting just to kind of go over a lot of this. It's it is very small, even on the screen here. Um I'm also concerned my top concern is is our budget. We bonded$14 billion. [1:14:47, 1:15:07]: We have four million outstanding that we stated that we would later um use for financial and even that comes under the very minimum shell of a building, which is option one, with no stairwell, no nothing, so it's a little small box theater room. I think that we, you know [1:15:07, 1:15:27]: the the market is is it is what it is right now materials are high the cost of the real estate market um to build and to construct um we I'm not saying prolong but I'm saying we need to take all of those things into consideration um I agree with Councilwoman uh Barber in that [1:15:27, 1:15:47]: sense of some of the things that she made a statement with, as well as Councilman Blount and Thomas. I think that we need to make sure that whatever we do, if right now clearly we're still we're over budget regardless of what we decide. [1:15:46, 1:16:06]: No matter what. You know, oh, it's just a million dollars. No, it's not just a million dollars. It's our constituents' money, right? So I want to make sure that we get everything that we wanted and envisioned. I don't want to just throw something together. This is not about throwing something. [1:16:06, 1:16:26]: Together and then alone, and then 10 years later knock it down to build what we really wanted, or a piecemeal and add something together. So, you know, quality over whatever the case may be. Um, we just have to be smart about it. So I believe that we let her go ahead and finish the presentation. [1:16:26, 1:16:42]: We don't have to make any more comments or questions about it. We get those answers about our money and how we're going to be able to fund this or strategize. We might have to pivot and wait a little while, not too long. But I think that would be the better way of doing this. [1:16:44, 1:16:45]: Is that your nest? Yes. [1:16:49, 1:16:50]: Well. [1:16:50, 1:17:10]: Is understanding this, okay? This is a un you know, in her own defense, this is an unprecedented time. The same house that was$220,000 five years ago is$400,000. The same house. So basically, what we're doing here is the same project that we thought was going to be a [1:17:10, 1:17:30]: 18 million dollars is doubling cost, just like the house. Ask any renter out there who was renting a property now that used to be$1,000 is$2,000 now. The same exact property. So those circumstances are mitigated. We certainly want to make sure that we follow and we look at the budgetary. [1:17:29, 1:17:49]: analyzed in order to make sure that we make the project uh fall in line with what we need to so the meetings or in order as the group has agreed to so thank you. I know that timing is important um when you are constructing a major project. [1:17:49, 1:18:09]: like this. Now is really not the best time for us to construct anything like this. Um I would um well I have some questions uh in regards to the financials uh with the bond when will we begin anyone's payment? Um I would [1:18:09, 1:18:29]: Now is the right time to ask those questions. But I do agree. Allow her to continue with her presentation and we can have our three-looking meetings at a later meeting. The time is key to the construction of this, considering the market, the economy. [1:18:29, 1:18:49]: Um we're not talking about building a house using our own test. We have to keep that in mind. Okay, thank you. So on that note, uh I would think that this this uh I'll go ahead and particularly with the presentation go through the entire bridge and then uh we'll go [1:18:49, 1:18:52]: Thank you. [1:18:54, 1:19:14]: Okay, so option number three um was to go back and approach the VE uh a little bit differently, to maintain all the key programs the council uh wanted. Uh so we did still remove uh items from the site, uh, but we also maintained the front park. It will [1:19:14, 1:19:25]: be reduced by 50%, maybe more than that, pending on final costing, but we can still have a park that could expand over time as needed. [1:19:27, 1:19:47]: Um also going to the building, uh maintaining uh the theater, we still have reduced it by six uh feet because that was quite a bit of savings again to the project. We still remove some storage space and the awning uh over to the right. Uh but we [1:19:47, 1:20:07]: We kept the museum and we kept the balcony. So this 200 or I'm sorry,$25 million project still has a four 405-seat theater. It still has the ballroom. [1:20:07, 1:20:22]: It still has office space on the second floor. There is some shell space in this project, primarily classroom, which was seen as a less priority, but the shell is there so it could be built out as an additional phase. [1:20:25, 1:20:45]: So those are uh the three VE options uh and the original cost. Um the other item I wanted to talk about, so you know those previous uh iterations are really focused on uh what you can do with uh the um what you what to do with right now. [1:20:45, 1:21:05]: But I also wanted to go back to this original schematic floor plan with the classrooms, with everything built out, and go into maybe a dialogue that one other additional study that we could do is really look at what can we [1:21:05, 1:21:25]: we get as far as a phase one that fits within 18 million. My proposal is that we go back and look at a shell of a building with just the theater spaces built out and the parking. You know that could be an optional phase one. [1:21:25, 1:21:45]: And then there could be additional phases added back into the project. That could be second floor spaces, that would be ballroom, classrooms, those kind of secondary spaces. So you get the theater you want, you get the shell of a building, you get some parking. [1:21:45, 1:22:05]: Then you go back and you can have another additional phase that would be the front park. So you can get that best-in-class front park. Another additional phase could be uh the Burke streetscape. And then finally, you could have another additional phase that gets you the sculpture walk that improves uh [1:22:05, 1:22:11]: the walking uh capabilities from the art center into downtown. [1:22:15, 1:22:23]: So uh that's the end of the presentation. Ready to hear more questions. [1:22:23, 1:22:35]: Thank you, Ms. Howe. Well what I'd like to say to my councilmates, uh to citizens who may be watching, to the advertisement that are here. [1:22:36, 1:22:53]: What's driving me to complete this entity as we move forward to redevelop our downtown? We see the impact of the amateur theater. We see that. [1:22:55, 1:23:15]: I know that if we do this right, this is still going to be another trigger that's going to impact what we're trying to do overall. So I'm looking at the Cultural Art facility as a part of that. [1:23:15, 1:23:35]: That we need to do to impact and go forward to bring all of the development in Tower Downtown. We see movement now because of the happen there. We will see additional movement. [1:23:36, 1:23:56]: Cause of this culture. I know it's going to be challenging. I know it is a tall mountain to climb, but I'm saying an encouragement to my councilmate: we have to push forward to the best of our ability. We have to push forward because at the end, we know that when this is [1:23:56, 1:24:16]: Bill, if we do it right, it's going to have an effect, it's going to have an impact on other things that are going to come. We see businesses now trying to come into our downtown. So, this is the benefit of everything that's going to associate with all of this. [1:24:16, 1:24:25]: So I'm just speaking about encouragement, but I do understand where we are, cost, budget, etc. etc. But I'm encouraging this council. [1:24:26, 1:24:46]: Press forward because we know at the end what these twin tiles are called, what it's going to do for our downtown, and what it's going to do uh for our city. Just cultural arts itself, what we provide to our youth and to our citizens. [1:24:46, 1:24:57]: Theater, the theater production, the ballroom, the museum. These are the entities that's going to bring people downtown. [1:24:58, 1:25:18]: These are the entities that are going to bring people downtown. This is what's going to drive the hotel, the restaurant, the entertainment, the retail. People coming downtown. So you have to have the ballroom, you have to have the theater to bring people. [1:25:18, 1:25:38]: People downtown. So I'm preaching this sermon because let us not refocus on the bigger picture and the goal to revitalize our downtown. So with that being said, I'm going to uh end my conversation on that. And I look forward as a [1:25:38, 1:25:58]: Carr and Mr. Darling to uh you know get into these sessions and uh Mr. Seldom if you would provide whatever information you know to the staff and uh car so we can make you decisive because it's gonna be difficult, but I'm I'm still ready to push forward. [1:25:58, 1:26:18]: Yeah, no problem. Well, uh the sounds that way just move comments. Yes, I do. And I think I want to concur with Councilman Thomas, and the one thing I want everybody to understand is it's not going to get any better. Okay, it's not. Interest rates have started to climb. The Fed has interest as [1:26:18, 1:26:38]: Indicated that interest rates will continue to come. The market has reacted to that. Like I said, thank God we built the amphitheater when we did, got the rates at what we got it at. Thank God we bonded this money now, earlier last year, instead of now, when rates are [1:26:38, 1:26:58]: Again, I break it down in terms of what is the home so the audience can understand. Okay? That$300,000 house that was$1,800 a month, now it's$2,400 a month for the same house. And when the interest rate continues to go up, all the this ball, this [1:26:58, 1:27:04]: is going to get worse. It's not going to get better anytime soon. It's going to keep going. So time [1:27:15, 1:27:35]: Only going to go up. So making a decision whether that in terms of what$18 million would get us or slightly more than that is essential. It can't take forever and a day because again, as the interest rates continue to climb, it's the situation [1:27:35, 1:27:55]: Get worse. We were in a period during the pandemic where interest rates were hysterically low. That's why inflation is what it is now. Because businesses went out and seized that opportunity to borrow money. So when the borrowing gets out of control, [1:28:00, 1:28:10]: the prices are attempt to control uh what the growth the um the um the prices are to attempt to kind of control and try to keep things in the [1:28:10, 1:28:27]: keep the supply and demand in uh in the right way so that uh supply does not outstrip demand because right now in the housing market it's you they can't build them fast enough and they're raising rates to try to slow down that rate uh of demand [1:28:27, 1:28:41]: And in the end, this demand that we have right now, again, if we had borrowed the same money that we're borrowing now for the amphitheater and for this facility later on right now, we wouldn't be able to afford it. [1:28:42, 1:29:02]: You know the most council on the council and you go to the back the policy. Just one. Um I agree partially, um but what comes up does up is gonna come down and um uh legally as a real estate attorney, I can tell you that I believe that the bowl will burst. I think [1:29:02, 1:29:22]: That the interest rates will go up, but when the interest rates go up, property goes down, a lot of people are suffering. And it's unfortunate you'll see a lot more evictions going on, a lot of things going on right now. That's on the residential side. But we're talking about government funding that has a cap rate. [1:29:22, 1:29:35]: Um, you know, and so at some point we do have to be uh smart financially about this and strategic. I'm not against um I'm with the council members. I want to look forward with the building. [1:29:35, 1:29:55]: I want to be smart about it and strategic about it. But understand that the market, um there's been anyone can look it up, Google it. Um the the predictions are that the market is going to first come down and it and it's gonna come down because the pandemic has [1:29:55, 1:30:15]: Slowly decreases and we come up with other things. We're getting material a little bit faster now. And the housing housing market that demand is slowing down because those interest rates are going up. One way or another, people are going to get their money, whether they rise in the interest rates or increase. [1:30:14, 1:30:20]: The property value. It is what it is. And right now, the residential market. [1:30:20, 1:30:40]: We are just sky high, and you can see it right here based off the numbers. And I just want our mayor council to be smart and strategic about the way we handle this. Um, I just think it I think it would be advantageous for us to do as we plan. Um, I do want [1:30:40, 1:31:00]: want us to continue. I'm all for building the Bible town. I want us to continue on with our vision and our mission, but we definitely have to be smart about it. All right, thank you, Council. I just got to thank you for the briefing. Obviously, you heard all those comments, we'll take this in, we'll sit down with our staff and go through some things and make decisions and help them all happen this. Thank you. Appreciate you [1:31:00, 1:31:20]: time. On that moment, I will move on. Council consideration to amend title nine licensing and regulations. Chapter 9.110 Standards for Certain Businesses. Section 9.110.030 spacing to reduce the distance requirement from one mile to [1:31:20, 1:31:25]: [5485.9, 5500.8]: Good evening, um Mayor, Mayor Brookson and Council members and residents. So um yes this is a request before you tonight uh to amend the session of if this line has been uh your lady has been if this part. [1:31:41, 1:32:01]: stipulates a business requirement, uh distance requirement of one mile for a number of different businesses throughout the city. And staff is coming to you tonight to request that there be a reduction in the mile distance requirement from, let's say, for example, a hair salon to another hair salon. [1:32:01, 1:32:21]: or a barbershop to another barbershop or vice versa. And um coming to you tonight for a reduction from one mile to half a mile um to allow some new businesses to come into the city. Um so I'll be happy to answer any questions that you want. Okay Mr. Do you know the [1:32:21, 1:32:41]: um mileage distance that the county itself has on some of the property some some stores in general are you familiar with their mileage distance? I am not specifically towards these. I know we have for another business like our discount stocks we [1:32:41, 1:33:01]: Yeah, five miles. Okay. So okay, that's right. Baby we're trying to pretty much match those. So um in this regard, I I'm not in favor. I think I think we need to I'm just not in favor. Sorry. Go right in and say that. [1:33:01, 1:33:21]: And I'm going to concur with Council McKenna because we established some high standards at where we want to be at in terms of the city. If we want a salon in every stroke, if we want varied businesses, because there is no shortage of salons. [1:33:21, 1:33:40]: shortage of barbershops. You know, is I go into my barbershop and Mary chooses the same barbershop and the same one. What I hear from both barbers is there's a tremendous amount of pressure to keep the price down because every time somebody else opens, they lower the price and they're like, we can't raise [1:33:40, 1:34:00]: the price in order to make a profit because we got so many competitors and dumping more competitors in the market puts price pressures on people who have been with us the longest. Then somebody else can come in and give them a haircut for$10 or$8 and then the customer shifts because of that. [1:34:00, 1:34:20]: But in the end, I think uh it's not unreasonable to say that we need to be uh a one-mile distance because we uh as it's the same shopping class that I was talking about, the marijuana use, we had at one point we had like two nail salons in there, we had three. [1:34:19, 1:34:39]: Uh we had three hair salons in there at one point that luckily one hasn't has moved out since that point. But those things uh do make a difference in terms of varying the varying degrees. Now it the the whole complexity of this situation is we if we take [1:34:39, 1:34:45]: All the businesses that we turned out, we gotta retroactively go back and let them in. [1:34:46, 1:35:06]: I'm talking in terms of in terms of they can reapply at this point. The businesses that we turn down would can now come back, reapply in the space that they would deny and now uh be able to open up. But in the end it's kind of like I sympathize with business owners that uh or any [1:35:06, 1:35:26]: In this situation, but we need to make sure that we maintain the high standards we got that varies the business. And every now and then there's going to be somebody that gets caught in between, right at the edge, or kind of close to that. But to maintain the standard that we're trying to be so we don't have all the same business. [1:35:26, 1:35:46]: in the same area and that we're able to have free species, free speech free spaces available for a bit uh another restaurant to come in or a bookstore or something else very, then I think it's best to leave this in place. Okay. [1:35:46, 1:35:48]: Yes. Um [1:35:51, 1:36:04]: Are you seeing the overall thing we're trying to do in the city? And how we're trying to go about doing things and I don't seem to like I don't know if this is a complete list, but what is your reasoning for bringing this to us tonight? [1:36:05, 1:36:25]: Well there's been conversation about I brought this before. Um not only have we gotten requests for you know, hair salons or other types of businesses on this list, but we've also been working with our attorneys to discuss our uh legal uh ramifications for distance requirements and things like that. [1:36:24, 1:36:44]: And I wanted to at least bring it in front of you all because this was a part of a moratorium. Several of these were a moratorium. This was an ordinance that came into place in 2019. And I wanted to revisit it as we were re- revisiting our UDC, our new code, uh, which allows these uses outright. And wanted to see [1:36:44, 1:36:54]: we can make some connection between do we want to continue to have the distance requirement or keep essence and that's what I wanted to bring before you all tonight. [1:36:54, 1:37:10]: Yeah, but at this point I haven't heard of the legal notification. So I would present right. So I would not bring those. I have our our attorneys here to to just address um some of the conversations we've had uh regarding it. [1:37:11, 1:37:24]: I'm I'm fine I'm fine with your presentation, but your reasoning for bringing it here tonight I haven't got a build notification, but I'm I'm in agreement with my colleagues just forward whether we could [1:37:30, 1:37:50]: If there was a barbershop and they left that particular shop, a freestanding alone or whatever the case may be, and another person wanted to come in and open their business and it was a barbershop. Are we denying those those people as well? Because I'm not really now if it was on. [1:37:50, 1:38:10]: I don't know if I would necessarily really object to that because it's already there. Is there a way that we can form language where the building is already there, has already been established prior to? I mean, uh I know it's a new business. [1:38:09, 1:38:29]: But I can see that being um you know uh what we're looking at is the number or the amount. There are some cities in uh other areas that you go to that city and every strip travel from door to door has nothing but hair salons and nails and [1:38:29, 1:38:49]: Or a farmers shop or a tire shop. And what we're trying to do is show that we want a variety. We know we're not against businesses, but if we open this door, then we're allowing luxury a whole bunch of the same businesses. And we as a Mary Council have [1:38:49, 1:39:05]: Because we wanted a variety that's not within our vision. But if they were already there and they leave and they're just simply replacing it with another business, I wouldn't have a problem with that if we could write it on that manner. If we could write it in that man. [1:39:07, 1:39:27]: Yes. No, I I support that. That's certainly that no existing business should be put out of business and if it's already there, kept keeping it at the same level, just not letting it put a certain amount of people. Um the situation required me. [1:39:27, 1:39:40]: respond. Is that the case in which Council Gantt spoke of um that location was about basically looking basically a no it was not. [1:39:40, 1:40:00]: No Bosana and and and just a comment on what she mentioned, if there's a barbershop in place, a new barbershop can't come in anywhere uh any closer than one mile from that location, anywhere in the city on a radius of one mile. So um you're [1:40:00, 1:40:20]: comment about how we can look at it in a way which the current businesses if it was always a barbershop as a new owner or it's a new barbershop completely um because usually you may have the same business there but you have a new owner or you have a whole new barbershop that comes in altogether. [1:40:19, 1:40:35]: I'm sure we could get some verbiage together to to address that and accommodate that and still keep that mile radius in place. I have a problem with the right. So what is um the [1:40:39, 1:40:44]: um are not eligible because of the restriction we distance. [1:40:45, 1:41:05]: What do we have in place for there to um request um every session? Um the only process we have in place currently is would be either changing or amending the code and uh applicant or a resident could request that through our uh approval or [1:41:05, 1:41:25]: application process or they can apply for an appeal. So if it is denied, it will come as a denial from my office from community development and then they have the option to appeal any decision that is made by myself as the director. And what does that appeal process look like? Um the appeal process entails [1:41:25, 1:41:45]: An application and a request for appeal within 10 days of the denial. And then from there we have 30 days to get the case on an agenda before you all to make a decision on the request. I will um stand behind what legal review has been provided to us. [1:41:45, 1:41:53]: I see um being more to like engage in creation about illustrating. [1:41:54, 1:42:00]: So we have Mr Washington is he anyway. [1:42:05, 1:42:11]: So legal advice, what kind of legal advice do we have is parsing for this issue at all? And could you please come in first, sir? [1:42:20, 1:42:40]: Good evening, Council. We had a series of conversations about this. If you look back around March 14th, where we discussed this being when we were looking at updating the UDC. And if you all want to have a briefing session about it, again we can. But we discussed zoning requirements and we give it, gave you all a memoir. [1:42:40, 1:42:50]: ones of correspondence about the restrictions on them. And if you want to all want to refer back to that and have questions for me, then we'll take them or if we want to have a separate briefing on them, we can do that. [1:42:51, 1:43:11]: I don't believe that that attorney that spoke with us, I don't believe the memo, I don't think she provided that too much. [1:43:11, 1:43:31]: I if you are able to look at your March 14th email, we highlighted this in yellow, the specific answer to that question. And I'm not trying to be vague, but separate from that, if you all want to discuss it, I'm fine with having a separate briefing about it. [1:43:31, 1:43:31]: [6212.8, 6213.8]: Yeah. [1:43:35, 1:43:47]: Okay, I guess so any other question from council. And I don't think Ms. Carter, uh no need for a vote because we've got the justice and the council's gonna say no. Thank you for your time. Thank you. [1:43:48, 1:43:55]: Okay, council uh the update uh uh GMA Grammar Assurance uh Ms uh Mr. Garrett Ms. Garisa? [1:44:00, 1:44:20]: Very quick uh mayor council members. So I've been in this uh discussion with GMA staff, um started with uh district rep Mr. Freddie Bloom, who some of you probably know, um, and have been handed off to the director, uh the deputy executive director for GMA, um, who I'm start looking to hear back from [1:44:20, 1:44:40]: in um regarding the application process and what we need to do. So we're still communicating back and forth in GMA at this time. So as soon as I get that process the application process um solidified with Deputy Director Logan I'll be back on the attendance and give you guys an update as to where we are but we're still calling [1:44:40, 1:45:00]: So as soon as we do that, I'll bring it back. Thank you. Um, Mr. Washington, question for you, sir. Uh we're brought to my text and is a last item with this carter is actually since on agenda for a holding item. We didn't vote. I think I I think I know where the votes are gonna go. I'm gonna s I'm a sort of my basic [1:45:00, 1:45:05]: for retracted property, vote needs to be taken or a motion to be made. [1:45:07, 1:45:07]: [6309.4, 6315.1]: wants to pull it from the identity here. If he wants to pull it from the agenda here. Okay? [1:45:16, 1:45:32]: If the if the council and the mayor council is willing to revisit this and have more of a conversation about it to identify the things that you guys have wanted to see, that we can bring it back with some change verbiage to address the concerns tonight. [1:45:34, 1:45:42]: All right, well um and you can table it if you'd like. We s it might as well table this because I don't think from what I understand from the council, I don't think we're [1:45:42, 1:46:02]: Or you could deny it. And we just bring it back in different uh if you want a motion, we have to do we can do a motion for it. All right, so we could present it and there's a uh we need a motion to accept this proposal. But if there's not uh we'll see. Well my mayor yes are playing my suggestion would be to deny it and then have it come back in the specific [1:46:02, 1:46:18]: specific language that Ms. Kent had mentioned about allowing existing business to operate uh in that space. So I'm certainly supportive of that. So motion to deny. I think. Okay. Alter, please indicate? [1:46:19, 1:46:39]: Okay, is that no nothing that's okay? Okay, I would add comments. Okay, four four one zero is common. Um our legal advice has told us was legal, it was [1:46:39, 1:46:42]: That reaction. This is that interaction. [1:46:43, 1:46:47]: All the happens for that restrict. [1:46:47, 1:46:55]: It's not legal question making this decision with my that's not a position. Right. Well [1:47:05, 1:47:18]: voted approved for one okay yes sir um I I didn't really want to ask that question about the legal ramification um [1:47:20, 1:47:20]: Yeah. [1:47:22, 1:47:30]: Live to Carlton. Let's do Washington. [1:47:30, 1:47:50]: If if there's something that needs to be said that I would rather table is if there's something that needs to be said uh at at a at another point in time I would prefer to table. Would you recommend that we table rather than to take a vote of a denial or whatever, would you recommend [1:47:50, 1:47:53]: To yes I would. [1:47:53, 1:48:13]: Okay, now yeah, we are for it, that's true. But obviously it can be rescinded and said you're the one who put the motion under uh you put the motion up, right? Yeah, but why can we just bring it back with the language addressing the issue that we had uh put forth? And I don't think we should be discussing [1:48:13, 1:48:33]: You know, come on, this is not this is not what we want to do. We do not want to do that. Okay? So let's make sure that we're discussing the issue at hand, to put it on the table, to protect existing business. If there's a barbershop or salon already there, somebody can reopen that. That's what we want to do. We do not want to uh [1:48:33, 1:48:53]: reduce the limit. This whole discussion was about reducing the one mile limit. I certainly don't want to do that. And I think we have pretty much about the system not to do that. All right, uh what I serve here. Step out Stephen. Uh Ms. What was the what was the motion please? [1:48:53, 1:49:13]: The motion was to deny um as stated to reduce from one mile to half a mile. Yeah. Uh I received [1:49:13, 1:49:17]: should reconsider uh my vote if I may [1:49:18, 1:49:38]: So then well Sam, I think once a reconsideration, he he is actually on the uh approving side. That could be done. So we reconsider now. All right. So uh that'll make it uh but reconsider to abstain. To abstain. Well if he's making a motion to reconsider it. [1:49:38, 1:49:48]: has been properly moved and second and then it's voted on and then you all make the secret. All right, so you you you wanna reconsider, or is there a second to this motion to reconsider? [1:49:48, 1:49:49]: That's it. [1:49:49, 1:49:56]: As bar per second is that. So it has to take a vote on that and all in favor of that reconsideration please indicate. [1:49:57, 1:49:58]: All both. [1:50:00, 1:50:20]: You oppose the possibility? Okay, Celeste Okay. Alright, let's go back to this. Okay, postons may be reconsidered. All favor uh uh records have been reconsider pleasing. Oh, I'm sorry, how [1:50:20, 1:50:24]: We consider it the motion. Well [1:50:24, 1:50:44]: Okay. Well you have to bring the item back first and then vote on it again. Scoop down. I was saying you have to bring the item back first and then vote again on the item. Okay, but we're mostly on the four for if you want to be [1:50:44, 1:50:55]: able to reconsider his vote. Okay? So the motion was made and second. So all in favor of allowing him to reconsider his vote, please indicate. Sir. No. Okay. [1:50:56, 1:50:57]: Okay, now [1:51:00, 1:51:20]: to the original uh motion uh to uh that was made by actually was made by Alexander all right so we'll go back to the original motion that he made in reference to the nine based on the one mile reduce it to a half mile okay so now we're we're so we're gonna do that. [1:51:20, 1:51:40]: Ma'am? Yes ma'am. Just before we vote on that, I just want to make it clear that one mile, point five miles, there's no I mean you you can't say that there's some legal difference between a point five or five miles or twenty miles. It's done, it's done in the county, it's done all over the state, Georgia. [1:51:39, 1:51:51]: So I don't see that there's something illegal. I don't want people thinking that there's something that the mayor and council is doing illegally. And if so, there's something that we need to discuss at any point in time. [1:51:51, 1:51:52]: Yeah, nature. [1:51:53, 1:52:01]: That would be of a legal concern, that would be an executive, so that would be attorney-client privilege. So we need to be aware of that as mayor and counsel. [1:52:02, 1:52:03]: Yeah. At all times. [1:52:03, 1:52:23]: And right now, point five or one mile or two mile or five miles doesn't make a difference. So if you're gonna try to change to five mile point five miles, a half a mile or a mile, that wouldn't make a legal difference in that regard. And so my vote still stands. However, um if there's some things that you want to bring to our attention [1:52:23, 1:52:43]: For the purpose of a moratorium or something, we changed it. We released the moratorium and actually provided a law, an ordinance based off of the mileage. We released that. So just so I think there was a little bit of confusion there. And I just want you guys to uh maybe you can clarify that, Mr. Washington. [1:52:43, 1:52:45]: Yes, uh [1:52:46, 1:53:06]: Miss Johnson sent out and we had some correspondence surrounding that back in March of this year. And that was the correspondence that I was referring to. And I appreciate the Councilman Marvel for noting that. But that's what was highlighted in yellow and what she sent out to you all. And I'm finally having further further clarification about that. [1:53:06, 1:53:07]: Mm. [1:53:07, 1:53:08]: Okay. [1:53:09, 1:53:29]: Alright, so we're back to the the motion. I'm sorry, Ms. Barber, we were back to the motion uh that was made in reference to for denying. Okay, so all favor of the motion to deny the Ms. Please indicate. Is that correct? Yes. Okay, so all all favor you have a motion, sir, to deny what was presented. Correct? [1:53:29, 1:53:46]: We had a motion to deny what was to reduce from one mile to half a mile. It's the same thing, right. That's it. That's all we were talking about. Right. So that's all this table is that you make motion of components. [1:53:46, 1:54:00]: Yeah, how long do we work? Three, three, I mean, we're right. You'll say, okay, so you're you're four, four, three, three, or four, three, three, two, four, and uh guess is Bottom Your book on this one? [1:54:01, 1:54:04]: Can you ask the clerk to read back the motion, please? [1:54:05, 1:54:05]: Yeah. [1:54:08, 1:54:16]: The motion. Got your motion is to deny, made by Councilman Alexander, second by Councilman McGann. [1:54:19, 1:54:39]: From one nine to one. Correct. Now, all favorite motion. Please indicate. Once again. Three. All both. One. Abstain. One. Oh yes. Three, one, one. Yeah, four. Yeah, four. Yes, ma'am. By comment. Again. I like four. Still saying. [1:54:39, 1:54:46]: Okay, so right. Alright. So it was it was denied. Now [1:54:46, 1:55:06]: We're ready to move on. All right. Thank you, Ms. Garner. Uh and Mr. Gardner already gave this uh briefing there on the number and is going to get back to us on that. So the point uh item number 10, we added that was there was a city resolution approving the second intergovernmental development. [1:55:06, 1:55:10]: that is reason and this is on a new Mr. Buskin. [1:55:36, 1:55:56]: This is just to follow up on the cleanup work that council had requested about the properties with the fire station and going back and reviewing the title to these properties. Going back and reviewing the title to these properties, there needed to be a couple of things done. There needed to be a property. [1:55:56, 1:56:16]: Conveyance because there was a proper conveyance done for all the property that was at the fire station. And then that was noted as the Falcony of the Boundary Survey, and there was a new legal description indeed to be done. And so the city just needed to be able to execute the quick claim deed, conveying a new legal description to the DDA, and then the DDA is going to execute. [1:56:15, 1:56:35]: Execute the new quit claim dee to with the correct legal description and missile surveying. And then there's the other resolution for the proper naming of the DDA, which the chairman's already agreed to, which is before council for them to agree to, because there's been some confusion throughout the years about the actual name of the development authority. [1:56:35, 1:56:47]: And so those are the resolutions that encapsulate the request that we had to amend the agenda. So that's the two-minute government agreements and the naming of the DDA. [1:56:49, 1:57:09]: Okay, so right the first one is city resolution approved second in a government to loved the tree. Okay, so requesting for Mr. Washington on that piece. And not uh motion to accept that. Yes, uh first of all, just I want to make a motion to approve because this uh allows us to be able to [1:57:09, 1:57:29]: Transfer the D to the applicant or the sale on the fire station, which is taking incredibly too long. So we need to make that uh correction now. So I'd like to make a motion to do that. Mr. Blount is that made the motion. All fair please indicate as the second. [1:57:29, 1:57:35]: Okay. Mr. Washington, uh second I think the government will develop which is high number. [1:57:36, 1:57:53]: Yes, that intergovernment agreement it will do take care of the transfer from the DDA to the person that is getting the property. Okay. So I think uh for Ms. Blount and then Ms. Gantt for second that all trip will present a day. [1:57:55, 1:58:15]: Alpha's opposition? Do you approve as Barber? Do you approve or sorry? You approved. So C that suspicions you approved. All right. And then item one thirteen city resolution regarding the restatement of the DVA activation and clarification of the DVAs in A. Mr. Washington, please. [1:58:14, 1:58:34]: Yes, and this is to clarify the actual name of the DDA is attached, and we have been in contact with uh Dan Craig, who is the DDA's attorney, and this is what we figured out through doing the boundary survey that we were doing with the fire station: is that to normalize everything you all need to stay in the [1:58:34, 1:58:47]: The chairman I think is Mr. Custin, is that correct? He has agreed to the official name of the DDA and we're asking for you all to adopt that so it can get fixed. [1:58:50, 1:59:10]: The city will start with downtown to go up there, right? That's why too related now to to the DEA now. Yeah, I have a comment that I don't like. Originally when we all did this in the DEA meeting. Originally when the DEA was established in I think nineteen eighty-three, this was an official name. In twenty thirteen. [1:59:10, 1:59:30]: We know what happened in 2013, right? They adopted the new name. So this is really a good opportunity to differentiate the current DDA from the transition of those property outside the state. [1:59:30, 1:59:35]: So the city of Stock Bridge is a downtown development door. [1:59:35, 1:59:55]: Okay. I think it's the downtown development authority of the city is not a Right, well I'm sorry, yeah. That's what I mean. Yeah. Downtown the authority and city is not city as well. Okay. That's the question. Yes. Sorry. Okay. Good deal. [1:59:55, 2:00:15]: Alright, so now we we've gotten that part. So is the motion accept that? So is there a second? Okay, Mr. Alexander and Ms. Gantt, all fairly please indicate. Alright, you guys see it. Thank you, Mr. Wysson. Appreciate it. Thank you. As a matter of fact, you do have all of the resolutions. Yeah. Okay. All right, thank you very much. And for my comments. [2:00:15, 2:00:35]: So as you well know, ladies and gentlemen, we're still in a pandemic, so COVID-19 is still out there. But it's getting better. The numbers are going down, the more people get vaccinated and uh getting tested out. So also we'll keep an eye on our fitness development over the course of time, not only in our county, but in the state and the country as well. But just so you know, the Department of Health and one [2:00:35, 2:00:50]: Henry Parkway. Uh Spinner was able to give the Pfizer and the Derma vaccinations. Uh they're open um five days a week, nine a.m. to eleven thirty, or also one PM to two thirty. And that's uh [2:00:50, 2:01:10]: 470-664-0005. Call them and make an appointment. You can also be tested after COVID-19 at Red Hawk Field, look at 143 Henry Parkway. That's Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. In that aspect, of course, there's plenty places in the in and around Stock Ridge or Henry County area. [2:01:10, 2:01:30]: So please protect yourself in this aspect as well. I want to uh tell the ladies on our council, Happy Mother's Day to you. The staff, happy Mother's Day to the ladies on the staff as well. To the citizens of Stockbridge, Happy Mother's Day to you ladies right around the corner. And those men. [2:01:29, 2:01:49]: children and individuals in your life treat you with up due respect on your one day because they should do it every day of the year, right? And for a little for a little uh interest here, uh we are all, some of us, most of us are good football fans, so I I wish the the NFL draft would go well for without a problem. This is coming too. [2:01:49, 2:02:09]: Week and I think getting some fantastic players and have a great season, right? All right. So on that note, uh we actually I guess another kind of possible ask no thing for you. That's how they put it in there. We're gonna have fun this time. Announcements and upcoming events uh meetings of this council meetings uh we held a course [2:02:09, 2:02:29]: City Council Chambers and some board meetings and committee meetings will continue to take place by way soon. So meeting dates and times are subject to change. So please visit the city website at www.citystoprist.com for meeting invitation links. And Facebook page will contact city hall offices at 770. [2:02:29, 2:02:49]: And city council meetings the second Monday of each month. And City Council Chambers, this will be May 9th. Second Wednesday of each month. Another line meeting room in the city hall, and that'll be May 11th. The main street advisory board meeting is the second Friday of each. [2:02:49, 2:03:09]: month at 9 a.m. by way of Zoom on May 13th. Downtown and Dunn Authority meeting at 6 p.m. by way of Zoom. A third Tuesday beach month by way of Zoom on May 17th. The youth uh youth council advisory committee meeting 6:30 p.m. Uh third Tuesday of each month in the Patrick Henry meeting room city hall city hall says May 17th [2:03:09, 2:03:29]: The City Council work session meeting the last Tuesday of each month. City Council Chamber is May 31st. The Planning Commission meeting is being fourth Thursday least month at 6.30 p.m. We assume it has May 26th. Upcoming city events and initiatives. And we have a continued salute to veterans and please who are fishing. [2:03:29, 2:03:49]: Veterans including name, branch, rank, and years of service. As a member of Tem Thomas presents a special tribute to the local veterans. Thank you for, of course, thank you for your service. Those veterans, please join Costello Tom Blount for the virtual national data prayer. [2:03:49, 2:04:05]: Thursday, May fifth, uh, right uh six thirty PM, watch on Facebook Live and at at uh Stop Brace City Hall. And am I to assume uh have a stop for setting? Even though you still want to have diversity or you wanna have a city hall? [2:04:08, 2:04:28]: Okay, so okay, that's why I want to double check with you. So otherwise it is going to be right here. Okay. So okay, thank you sir. So I'm glad I stopped asking. Okay, on that note, ladies and gentlemen, I have no other announcements uh to make to the public, but we do have an examination session issue that we need to discuss with our attorneys. So I need to [2:04:28, 2:04:48]: motion to go to the second session forward. Yes sir. I move that we enter to decided session for uh real estate personnel. Thank you sir second. Thank you very much folks. I think that's a kind of decision there. And ladies and gentlemen we will go to the second section [2:04:48, 2:04:51]: Back to once we are completely not accident. Thank you. [2:04:53, 2:04:55]: Similarly, there's nothing. [2:04:56, 2:04:59]: That's pretty good. That's pretty good.

--- title: Special Called Meeting Via Zoom date: 2022-04-25 source: 2022-04-25_Special_Called_Meeting_Via_Zoom.wav --- [0:01:20, 0:01:21]: Hello everyone. [0:01:22, 0:01:23]: Hello, Mayor Pro Tem. [0:01:25, 0:01:26]: Fine, thank you. [0:01:26, 0:01:27]: Well [0:02:57, 0:02:57]: That's true. [0:03:09, 0:03:10]: Yeah. [0:03:19, 0:03:25]: [502.4, 504.6]: Councilwoman Barber, how are you? [0:08:29, 0:08:31]: Doing good, Mir Pro Tan. How are you? [0:08:33, 0:08:34]: Todd has been uh [0:08:35, 0:08:37]: Been a lot going on. [0:08:37, 0:08:38]: Okay. [0:08:38, 0:08:41]: Trying to get some chores around the house square way. [0:09:05, 0:09:25]: Well ladies and gentlemen, we are live streaming now, so we're recording, uh, but yet uh we do not have a quorum at this time. So we'll give a few minutes and there's another council member scheduled to join us. And uh so we'll give it a little bit more time before we uh as we proceed here shortly. [0:09:25, 0:09:26]: So be patient. [0:09:28, 0:09:29]: Good evening. [0:09:39, 0:09:40]: Yeah. [0:12:43, 0:12:51]: This holiday I sent a response or sent a message as well. So we can uh hopefully get this started soon. Thank you. [0:12:52, 0:12:54]: All right, thank you, Chair. [0:13:01, 0:13:02]: Yeah. [0:15:01, 0:15:03]: All right, ladies and gentlemen. [0:15:03, 0:15:06]: Looks like we are going to obtain a quorum here. [0:15:07, 0:15:11]: I have six oh six. Welcome, Miss Gantt. [0:15:11, 0:15:14]: I have six oh six welcome uh Mr. Washington as well. [0:15:15, 0:15:18]: All right, so special call meeting Monday, April 25th. [0:15:18, 0:15:38]: 606 and want to call the meeting to order and I'll give the invocation at this time. Lord, thank you the bow your heads, please. Lord, thank you for bringing us together for another wonderful meeting as we continue to do the business of our citizens. Allow us to have a wonderful time and make good solid decisions for the betterment of our citizens and moving the city forward. Be as always, Lord, in your name. [0:15:38, 0:15:42]: Amen. All right. Um [0:15:45, 0:15:49]: Call to order invocation need a pledge of allegiance. Please stand for a pledge of allegiance, please. [0:15:53, 0:16:05]: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for what it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:16:05, 0:16:08]: All right, Madam Clerk, can you roll call, please? [0:16:13, 0:16:16]: Mayor Ford Buzz. Mayor Pro Tem Thomas. [0:16:17, 0:16:17]: Present. [0:16:18, 0:16:19]: Renee Alexander. [0:16:21, 0:16:24]: Let the record reflect Councilman Alexander is not in attendance. Councilwoman Barber. [0:16:25, 0:16:26]: President. [0:16:26, 0:16:27]: Councilman blind. [0:16:29, 0:16:33]: As the record reflect, Councilman Blount is not in attendance. Councilwoman Garant. [0:16:34, 0:16:35]: Present [0:16:35, 0:16:38]: Therefore do you have a point? Thank you, madam. [0:16:39, 0:16:42]: Uh council, I need a motion to accept the agenda, please. [0:16:43, 0:16:44]: So moved. [0:16:44, 0:16:45]: Okay, is there a second? [0:16:46, 0:16:49]: Second. Okay, I'll I'll stand in all favor, please indicate. [0:16:50, 0:16:50]: Uh [0:16:51, 0:16:52]: Okay, thank you very much. [0:16:53, 0:17:00]: Okay, I need to a um we need to go I need a motion to go to executive session to involve to deal with uh personnel matters. [0:17:01, 0:17:02]: Beautiful. [0:17:03, 0:17:03]: Mm. [0:17:04, 0:17:09]: Scancle move. Okay. Thank you, Mayor Pro Temp. All in favor, please indicate. [0:17:10, 0:17:23]: Aye. Hi. Okay. Okay. Thank you very much. Uh so we'll now need a link uh to send us an executive session and uh also a link for Mr. Washington as well. Okay, I'll see you on a few minutes. Thank you. All right. [0:17:24, 0:17:26]: So I had two numbers. [0:17:26, 0:17:27]: Okay. [0:17:30, 0:17:30]: [1054.6, 1056.0]: Miss Barber's back. [0:17:43, 0:17:44]: And we're back on Facebook Live. [0:18:17, 0:18:20]: Okay, Mirapo Tem Thomas is coming in. [0:18:21, 0:18:22]: Welcome back, sir. [0:18:26, 0:18:30]: Right. Right, Ms. Gantt. [0:19:00, 0:19:02]: Okay. [0:19:03, 0:19:05]: [1175.6, 1176.1]: Okay. [0:19:36, 0:19:37]: Okay. [0:19:54, 0:19:55]: Mr. Washington. [0:19:56, 0:20:03]: I he's he's not online. He he should be back and so would associate the Ms. Gantt here. Miss Washington's not online right now. [0:20:04, 0:20:07]: Okay, who's this? This Bond? Okay. [0:20:11, 0:20:12]: Oh there we go. [0:20:12, 0:20:14]: There we go, yeah, Miss Cant. [0:20:18, 0:20:24]: Ms. Holiday, we now have a quorum. So council, I'd like to motion to end our executive session, please. [0:20:26, 0:20:26]: Um [0:20:27, 0:20:30]: Who who's who who said that? I'm sorry. [0:20:31, 0:20:33]: Miss Kent, okay. And a second. [0:20:33, 0:20:36]: Okay, Ms. Mayor Pro Tem seconded. All in favor, please indicate. [0:20:38, 0:20:44]: All right. Okay. Now appreciate it. And now I need a motion to uh reconvene our special call meeting, please. [0:20:46, 0:20:50]: Mr. Mayor Mayor Pro Tem got it? Uh Ms. G [0:20:51, 0:20:55]: You got second, Ms. Cat, second that okay, all favor, please indicate. [0:20:55, 0:20:55]: Bye. [0:20:56, 0:21:02]: Okay. Now I need a motion to end our special call meeting. Miss Barber, you want to make the motion on that? [0:21:03, 0:21:04]: Okay, is there a second? [0:21:04, 0:21:17]: Member 10 seconds. Member for 10 seconds that? On favor, please indicate. Aye. Okay. Okay. We're announced this season. Good night, everybody. I'll see you tomorrow night. Take care. Good night.

--- title: Downtown Development Authority date: 2022-04-19 source: 2022-04-19_Downtown_Development_Authority.wav --- [0:00:02, 0:00:11]: Good evening, everyone. This is Roger Custon, and this is our April regular meeting for the Stockbridge Downtown Development Authority. [0:00:12, 0:00:18]: And uh we'll go ahead and get started. So um Bob, if you would be kind enough to call out role, please. [0:00:18, 0:00:20]: Certainly. Uh Councilman Alexander. [0:00:21, 0:00:21]: President. [0:00:22, 0:00:23]: Roger Custon. [0:00:23, 0:00:24]: Present. [0:00:25, 0:00:26]: The Miquel King. [0:00:27, 0:00:32]: Barber Richardson, I think you said she was not gonna be here. Uh Maxwell Sears. [0:00:33, 0:00:34]: Rather than [0:00:34, 0:00:36]: And Bob Swagert. [0:00:40, 0:01:00]: All right, very good. I think that uh that's four, so that makes a quorum. We'll go ahead and uh begin the meeting. Uh first uh on the agenda is to prep approve today's agenda. And I'd like to actually make a motion to make a couple of uh edits to the agenda. [0:01:00, 0:01:20]: First of all, to move the Henry County presentation from Mr. Henning as the first item under guest speakers. He has a prior commitment at 6:30 and needs to leave early. The second edit would be to add to the guest speakers Ms. Ebony Thompson. [0:01:20, 0:01:31]: who's the uh social media manager for a social media manager presentation, she responded to the DDH bid for a social media manager. So I'd like to make a motion for those two changes. [0:01:33, 0:01:34]: So [0:01:35, 0:01:36]: Second. [0:01:37, 0:01:38]: Thank you. [0:01:38, 0:01:40]: Any discussion? [0:01:42, 0:01:45]: All right, all those in favor, raise your hand. [0:01:48, 0:02:08]: All right. And I I think that makes uh that that approves it. Thank you. So we'll proceed with the uh edited agenda. Uh next item under uh call to order is to approve uh last month's meeting minutes was March 15th. Those were shared with the uh board uh this afternoon, along with the uh supporting documents. Uh so I'll go ahead and make a motion. [0:02:08, 0:02:13]: to uh or ask for a motion to approve last month's uh march 15th meeting minutes. [0:02:14, 0:02:16]: I I move that we approve the minutes. [0:02:17, 0:02:19]: Thank you, Bob. Second. [0:02:20, 0:02:23]: And that's Maxwell. Second. All right. Any other discussion? [0:02:25, 0:02:28]: All those in favor, please raise your hand. [0:02:30, 0:02:31]: All right, very good. [0:02:31, 0:02:47]: I think that passes as well. Thank you, everyone. So that brings us to the uh next section of the agenda, which is our guest speakers. And uh Mr. Henning is here with the uh Henry Chamber. So thank you for joining us today. And I understand you have a presentation, so um we'll give you the floor. Thank you. [0:02:48, 0:02:51]: Thank you, sir. Thank you all for the opportunity. It's uh [0:02:51, 0:03:09]: It's a it's a great opportunity for me to share a little bit about what we're working on, where we are, and and how we get to where we are. So I appreciate your time uh as as I uh share some information with you tonight. Um I do have just about six slides. Is it uh can I share those? [0:03:12, 0:03:16]: Yes, we should be able to. Okay. Share screen. There we go. [0:03:18, 0:03:18]: Okay. [0:03:22, 0:03:23]: All right. [0:03:24, 0:03:44]: And we see your screen. All right. Wonderful. So I just want to share a little bit. There's often a common misconception about the Chamber of Commerce. We are not any government entity or affiliated or an affiliate of. We are strictly a not-for-profit voluntary organization that's made up of business members that choose. [0:03:44, 0:04:02]: To join us and work together with us in a collaborative nature. We seek to be a champion of our economic prosperity for both our members as well as our community as a whole. And that we're a convener of our companies, professionals, organizations, as well as our government partners in order to make the community better. [0:04:03, 0:04:06]: And then finally, we serve as a catalyst for business growth. [0:04:07, 0:04:19]: By making businesses stronger, they are able to employ more and uh our communities thrive then because those employees have the opportunity to spend their money, their resources within our community. [0:04:20, 0:04:23]: Um when we look at our annual program of work. [0:04:24, 0:04:44]: Uh we talked to our members and we do that through various surveys. We do an annual survey, but we also do surveys throughout the year with um key constituent groups. And so what we found this last year coming out of uh well, it was the end of 2021. So we were hoping that we were coming out of COVID. Um, but what they were really looking for from a business community was [0:04:44, 0:05:04]: Number one, a new normal. How do we function in that new normal? What does that look like? What resources are there? And we've all heard about the quality of workforce issues, the ability to hire individuals for uh whether frontline employees or key employees for organizations. And so that was their second concern. And then finally, what the economy was going to be. [0:05:03, 0:05:14]: going to do and that was their third concern. And then you'll see some of the other areas that we asked them about and they weighed in on from engagement employee engagement to technology and infrastructure taxes and fees. [0:05:15, 0:05:20]: And so what we do with that is we made those top three priorities of our of our membership of the business community. [0:05:21, 0:05:25]: the top three priorities of what we were going to address throughout the year. [0:05:25, 0:05:45]: And so as I mentioned earlier, uh, we see ourselves as a convener. Uh, number one, our board of directors represents the diverse nature of our membership as well as the diversity of Henry County. Uh, each of the elected chief elected officials of the uh four municipalities as well as the county serves at our board. We also have representation from the board of [0:05:45, 0:06:05]: Of education and the hospital authority. And then we have the majority of our membership is from diversity, diverse throughout Henry County. Um, and I and when I say that, I mean diverse by uh race and ethnicity, ethnicity, uh, gender, age, as well as the industry or business sector that they represent. And so when we look [0:06:05, 0:06:25]: At our key areas of membership, we make sure that we have representation from those within our board of directors. Uh just before the pandemic, we did hire a partner relations manager with our uh convention and visitors bureau, the tourism department. And I know that you've seen several of the great accomplishments they've done, but we're going to look at a few of those. [0:06:25, 0:06:26]: Uh including the um [0:06:27, 0:06:47]: hospitality mixers and our diversity series. Annually we do cover an intergovernmental retreat in partnership with the development authority and some of our key members. And we pull together our elected officials from the within the Henry County as well as our state representation at the General Assembly and have conversations around what are [0:06:47, 0:07:03]: the priorities within Henry County, what do we need to address collaboratively? And so then we work uh together to try to solve some of those problems that we see internally. Uh the biggest uh issue that we saw uh in the fall of 2021 was the um [0:07:03, 0:07:23]: small business resources available to our business community as they were coming out of the pandemic and how they were going to strive to be successful and to make Henry County successful. And then some of the things that we're working on, we're working together with our four municipalities as well as the county to streamline the business licensing program and make that a little [0:07:23, 0:07:43]: bit easier as a one-stop shop for many of our businesses within the county. Those were some of the things that we heard from them was we don't know where to go. We don't know how to do this. And so we're trying to work together to make that, not to cheat anything, but just to make it simple for them that they've got maybe a checklist and some steps that they know how to follow. And then with the business community, we provide legislative updates. [0:07:43, 0:07:53]: from specifically from Atlanta with our elected officials there at the General Assembly on what they're working on and how that may impact the business community. [0:07:53, 0:08:13]: Um and then finally the help for hospitality. You may recall that during the pandemic with the uh furloughing of many of the hospitality employees as nobody was traveling, um, we created a help for hospitality uh fundraiser that we collected two tons of food and worked with several of our community agencies to help deliver that food. [0:08:13, 0:08:18]: food to the uh members of the Henry County um hospitality world. [0:08:19, 0:08:24]: Second, uh serving as a catalyst. I think one of the um [0:08:24, 0:08:44]: Biggest things that we're most proud of is just as we were starting the pandemic in uh May and June of 2020, um, there was a a rising um, there were several other factors that were going on within the world that was creating some angst within uh the population, specifically within Henry County. And so we [0:08:44, 0:08:56]: We have started offering monthly dialogues online where we would address uh several of the books and that we recommended um and and and delved a little bit deeper into um [0:08:57, 0:09:17]: racial concerns, uh other minority concerns, looked at um uh we had some conversations around uh uh Asian representation within the the county and tried to have conversations to make people more aware of how we could still have conversations amongst ourselves respectfully and and try to move forward with [0:09:16, 0:09:36]: That. We do so we did support the East PLOS and the T S PLOS referenda this past year. We saw that as an opportunity to further promote what the great things that were happening and the need in order to improve education and transportation within Henry County in order to make that community stronger. [0:09:36, 0:09:56]: Uh we did at the start of the pandemic, we created TogetherforHenry.com. It was a website where we offered resources around COVID and things that businesses could do to better prepare themselves. We offered uh insight on where they could go to look at um acquiring some of the PPE that they needed. Um we had a [0:09:56, 0:10:00]: piece in there where many of our hotels and that would. [0:10:00, 0:10:01]: Um [0:10:02, 0:10:21]: Click a link and look at what the minimum requirements were from the CDC for hospitality and then some of the other things that we recommended. And then as they uh said that they were doing that, then we made sure that they had seals on their doors so that people stopping at those hotels felt more comfortable staying there and knew that we were taking precautions in order to keep them safe. [0:10:22, 0:10:39]: Uh I want to thank you all. We did have a great partnership with the City of Stockbridge for their Stockbridge CARES grants. We had over a hundred uh grants that we were able to give out to small businesses that were impacted by COVID in 2019 and 2020 that were able to keep many of their doors open. [0:10:40, 0:11:00]: And then the next thing coming up in uh May for Small Business Month, we are offering a three-part series for specifically for minority women and veteran-owned businesses, but anybody can participate. And it's be ready, it's a procurement and certification opportunity uh series where if they take the three-part series, this will better enable them. [0:11:00, 0:11:20]: To be certified. And even if they don't go through the certification, they can be aware of the procurement opportunities from local and state entities that are looking at small businesses where they have a set aside some money that they want to make sure that a certain percentage of smaller minority women-owned businesses. [0:11:20, 0:11:27]: Are participating. And so that's what we're doing in May. That's available on our website, or people can email us and we'll be sure that they get the information. [0:11:28, 0:11:48]: And then finally, we see ourselves as a champion of our community. I think the biggest way that we do that is through our tourism marketing through the tourism department within the chamber. Um, another one, and I know that we've got a ribbon cutting coming up in on Friday at the amphitheater. Um, but the artist consortium, and Roger, I know you're aware of this. Uh, we've [0:11:48, 0:12:08]: The, and I'm gonna say this real slow, the Bushy Tail Art Trail, where we have about two dozen squirrel tables uh throughout Henry County. And we encourage people to visit them. They could uh scan a QR code and see some of the places that they are, and then travel throughout Henry County and see these uh beautifully wonderful. [0:12:08, 0:12:12]: full uh scroll tables and you'll see those. Those are the second uh [0:12:13, 0:12:25]: photo in the slide uh uh to the left there. And um we've also created a culture of customer service and we touched on this last week with with city council. Um but we're looking at making sure that [0:12:25, 0:12:45]: Those members within our hospitality community are aware of the culture of customer service that we need to have in order to embrace, in order to welcome uh visitors to Henry County. And so we're working with a number of our employers. Um, I believe we've had about a hundred people that have participated in the program so far, and we have great interest in the next couple. [0:12:45, 0:12:54]: Cohort of that. We just had a successful emerging leaders where we're looking at the future leaders for Henry County generally. [0:12:54, 0:13:09]: If you're gonna put an age on it, probably 21 to 40, but everybody's welcome. And really looking at what their needs are as they are creating these businesses, managing these businesses. How do we support them to keep those businesses strong but keep them in Henry County? [0:13:10, 0:13:11]: And then um [0:13:11, 0:13:31]: I kind of talked about this and Alan, you're very well aware of it, but we have some space that we're looking at creating an incubator or some type of small business support center on our campus. And so today we were just down at Statesboro touring their incubator. And so I think you'll be seeing a lot of information coming out from the chamber next month again as part of. [0:13:31, 0:13:48]: Small business month on what our plans are and where we want to work in order to create these resources to support small businesses in Henry County because we know they're the backbone of business, of employment. And so we want to make sure that they're strong and that they have the resources available to them in order to succeed. [0:13:49, 0:14:07]: Um and then and finally uh we do have a uh for about 30 some years we've had a leadership program and almost as long we've had a youth leadership program with sophomores in high school that we take them around the county, introduce them to key leaders, but also give them leadership. Um [0:14:07, 0:14:23]: uh curriculum in order to make them stronger leaders within the community because we figure that that is what that's one of our our core tenants within our mission. It's the fourth tenant, but it's also one of the things that keeps Henry County so strong is by keeping that leadership focused and making sure that we're looking forward. [0:14:24, 0:14:40]: So that that's my my brief presentation. I hope it wasn't too long, too dry, too boring. Um, but I'm happy to answer any questions you may have. I'm sure you've got some around the chamber as well as within the convention and visitors visitors bureau, but I do want to thank you again for the opportunity to share that with you. [0:14:41, 0:14:45]: Well, we appreciate you being here. Thank you. Um Thank you. [0:14:45, 0:14:48]: Any any questions or comments on uh Mr. Hending's presentation? [0:14:49, 0:14:51]: Alan, I see your hand up. Go ahead. [0:14:54, 0:14:58]: Thank you very much, Mr. Henning. And you know, we we look forward to hearing about [0:14:59, 0:15:00]: Um that incubator. [0:15:00, 0:15:04]: Uh, it would be great if we could have some stock bridge businesses participate. [0:15:05, 0:15:09]: And um get involved with that. Um thank you again for presenting. [0:15:09, 0:15:12]: Uh during our meeting. I had one question. [0:15:12, 0:15:15]: Uh is leadership Henry associated with the chamber? [0:15:15, 0:15:18]: It is it is a program within the Chamber of Commerce, yes. [0:15:18, 0:15:21]: Oh okay, wonderful, wonderful. Okay. [0:15:23, 0:15:30]: It is open to anybody within the community. They do not have to be a member of the chamber in order to participate, but it is a uh a program within the chamber. [0:15:31, 0:15:32]: Yes, sir. [0:15:32, 0:15:34]: Thank you, Mr. Henning. Mm-hmm. Thank you. [0:15:37, 0:15:39]: I'm very impressed with the the the the [0:15:40, 0:15:44]: range and the depth of the your your your projects. I mean that's uh [0:15:44, 0:15:45]: It's impressive. [0:15:45, 0:15:48]: Thank you, sir. It does cause a few sleepless nights. [0:15:51, 0:15:59]: Now, m Mr. Henning, for one of our businesses to join the chamber, is it as simple as going online and filling out an application? [0:15:59, 0:16:19]: It is absolutely sir. Um, there's an online application. I encourage, you know, if if people have questions, please reach out to one of us within the chamber. Um, one of the things that I did not mention in the in the presentation, but one thing that we did implement during the pandemic was we set up an ACH payment program that they can take out monthly or quarterly. [0:16:19, 0:16:33]: payments instead of the one lump sum annually for their dues. And so that kind of spreads it out for their budgeting purposes and makes it a little bit easier for their cash flow. So we are very much willing to work with anybody as they as they are interested in joining us as we march down this road. [0:16:35, 0:16:36]: Wonderful. Thank you. [0:16:36, 0:16:37]: Thank you. [0:16:39, 0:16:52]: Um, I had a question about the uh Be Ready program and earlier slides. Is that did I I wasn't sure if I captured all what you were presenting there. Is that training for minority business enterprise certification? [0:16:52, 0:17:12]: It is it is working to make them aware of it. There's not a there's not so much as the training as the benefits to that. And so the very first one on May 3rd is uh Dana Lemon, who is with uh represents our our congressional district with the Department of Transportation explaining why people should be interested in this and then we'll go through. [0:17:12, 0:17:32]: Some of the different advantages. The next step is the advantages at the city and state level, county and state level. And then the final one is a panel discussion from many of them that have gone through the process of certification and why they did it and what how that benefited their business within it, you know, spreading out the [0:17:32, 0:17:42]: diversity of where their work is. And so we will offer going forward, we're going to offer the training, but we figured we needed to get people aware of what the benefits were before we just jumped in. [0:17:43, 0:17:45]: Good, thank you. All right. [0:17:46, 0:17:48]: But other questions for Mr. Henning or comments? [0:17:51, 0:18:02]: All right. Um, I guess I'll add one more. Uh would you mind sharing your presentation with me and we can Absolutely, I'll be happy to. All right, very good. Absolutely. Either send it to me or Alan and we'll uh we'll include it with our minutes. [0:18:03, 0:18:03]: Thank you. [0:18:04, 0:18:08]: Appreciate you being here. Thank you. Thank you. My pleasure. I'm gonna jump over to the board of commissioners now. [0:18:09, 0:18:10]: You all have a great evening. [0:18:11, 0:18:12]: You as well. You do. [0:18:13, 0:18:27]: All right, next up on the agenda is um I uh we we had uh reverted uh item A under guest speakers to MIDC manager um Mr. Gardner, but Alan I don't I don't see that Mr. Gardner is with us. [0:18:28, 0:18:39]: Oh, very good, sir. Welcome. The floor is yours. All right. Um good evening, everybody, and thank you guys for [0:18:40, 0:18:43]: invite me uh to be a part of your meeting this afternoon and [0:18:43, 0:18:52]: I'm actually gonna be transitioning over to uh I guess a town hall meeting with the mayor in a few minutes. So I apologize for having to jump in and jump out. [0:18:52, 0:18:53]: But [0:18:53, 0:18:57]: Um just wanna say I'm I'm you know super excited about [0:18:57, 0:19:08]: what our future and our near future is gonna hold for us. Um, as the DDA is gonna be one of the catalyst organizations to make things happen in in the downtown area, city of Stalkwood. So [0:19:08, 0:19:09]: Um [0:19:09, 0:19:13]: And Allen knows that there's some things on the horizon that we're gonna be working on. [0:19:14, 0:19:20]: to make a lot of this stuff come to fruition um with some private investment in the downtown. So [0:19:21, 0:19:25]: Uh, hopefully, you know, my years of experience working in this area. [0:19:25, 0:19:27]: We'll ass help assist you guys in Allen. [0:19:28, 0:19:31]: Um, with catalyzing some of these wonderful projects. [0:19:31, 0:19:41]: Um and over the next few years and hopefully starting in the next couple of months. Um, but definitely excited about about the opportunity to see [0:19:42, 0:19:45]: Um, see this organization take take it to the next level. [0:19:45, 0:19:49]: Um so I appreciate you guys allowing me to speak briefly. [0:19:49, 0:19:54]: Um, kind of give you a little bit about about my background, I guess. Um [0:19:55, 0:19:57]: Let's see of [0:19:57, 0:20:05]: Started my career, I guess, as a graduate student years ago um in urban and regional planning um at Abama AM. [0:20:06, 0:20:19]: Um did did my first work with grant work, um doing grants administration with community development block grant and home grants um for the city of Decatur, Illinois and neighborhood revitalization and neighborhood planning. [0:20:19, 0:20:21]: Um came to Henry County. [0:20:22, 0:20:28]: Um actual fact go back, um spend some time with the United States Fishing Wildlife Service. My actual specialty. [0:20:28, 0:20:31]: Um in planning is environmental planning. [0:20:31, 0:20:39]: So I did a lot of refuge planning for some of the refuges and um specifically ten thousand islands or um [0:20:40, 0:20:51]: Uh Florida Panther Wildlife Refuge, uh Bayoga Kodre Refuge in um Louisiana works specifically on how do we how do we open those um sensitive areas. [0:20:51, 0:21:01]: for public use and working around environmental assessments and in one case uh a straight big um environmental impact statement. [0:21:01, 0:21:04]: Um, for one of the wildlife refugees down in Florida. [0:21:05, 0:21:09]: Um and then obviously transition over to growth management with Palm Beach County. [0:21:10, 0:21:11]: Then Decatur, Illinois. [0:21:12, 0:21:16]: Then to Henry County is uh chief planning and assistant director and then interim director. [0:21:17, 0:21:20]: With she with uh Henry County and City of Griffin. [0:21:20, 0:21:21]: Um where you know. [0:21:22, 0:21:25]: Really, I got involved in the economic development side of. [0:21:25, 0:21:27]: Of the house working with that. [0:21:27, 0:21:28]: Yeah. [0:21:28, 0:21:30]: Main Street and Downtown Development Authority. [0:21:31, 0:21:36]: Um an actual fact to bring those two a we actually split those two organizations, they were one. [0:21:36, 0:21:44]: Um and we made uh the DDA as we as I call it the muscle of downtown in terms of being able to bring the bear. [0:21:44, 0:21:46]: the the resources, the money. [0:21:47, 0:21:50]: And um catalyzing private public private part [0:21:50, 0:21:52]: Um projects in downtown. [0:21:53, 0:21:56]: And um so you knew East Point. [0:21:56, 0:21:57]: mean uh city of uh [0:21:58, 0:22:01]: Griffin's downtown post two thousand and four compared to where it is now. [0:22:02, 0:22:05]: I t'all folks, there will burglar buzz on down there, every storefront. [0:22:06, 0:22:08]: When I got there in about seven churches. [0:22:09, 0:22:11]: Just two churches. [0:22:11, 0:22:12]: No burglar bars. [0:22:13, 0:22:17]: Um, vibrant businesses, and we took advantage of a lot of opportunity to do a tad. [0:22:18, 0:22:20]: In the downtown area. [0:22:20, 0:22:22]: Opportunity zone in our downtown area. [0:22:23, 0:22:25]: Enterprise Zoom in the downtown area. [0:22:26, 0:22:31]: Um, along with the downtown revolving fund and redevelopment fund loans to make a lot of projects happen. [0:22:31, 0:22:33]: Um we did on top of that. [0:22:34, 0:22:36]: Some city incentives with uh [0:22:37, 0:22:40]: Because we were a full service city, we reduced um [0:22:40, 0:22:41]: Their power utility costs. [0:22:42, 0:22:47]: where they literally paid zero the first year and then it came back at five percent over the next five years. [0:22:48, 0:22:49]: On on city utilities. [0:22:50, 0:22:57]: Um, because we know for any new business, small business, um, that one to five year window is a period of time where you know they either gonna stay or they're gonna go. [0:22:57, 0:23:02]: Um so the best we could use that time for them, we recognize there's an opportunity. So [0:23:03, 0:23:06]: Um when I left Griffin um in twenty twelve. [0:23:06, 0:23:10]: I remember telling my boss, man, you could actually bar hop in downtown. [0:23:11, 0:23:12]: Downtown Griffin. [0:23:12, 0:23:17]: Um when I got there, the only place you could eat after five o'clock was Kentucky Fried Chicken on the corner. [0:23:17, 0:23:19]: Of highway sixteen and hill street. [0:23:19, 0:23:21]: That was it. There was nowhere else to go eat downtime. [0:23:22, 0:23:28]: Um go there now, it's wonderful restaurants. And I know a lot of them got impacted by COVID, so I hope they're still there. [0:23:28, 0:23:29]: Um [0:23:30, 0:23:32]: But definitely came to city of McDonough. [0:23:33, 0:23:39]: And work with the city of McDonough. We revitalized the DDA in McDonough. That was a defunct entity. [0:23:39, 0:23:40]: Um brought it back and [0:23:41, 0:23:46]: Came very close before I left to London Jailhouse Brewery in the in the downtown area. [0:23:47, 0:23:53]: Um if anybody familiar with with um wonderful Mayor Copeland, he's [0:23:53, 0:23:58]: He's not one for alcoholists and and uh he really didn't like that project at all. [0:23:58, 0:24:02]: But you know, we try to explain to him the vo the economic value of that project. [0:24:03, 0:24:06]: And so um we almost landed him, but [0:24:06, 0:24:10]: It didn't happen, but we were able to do a lot of things and put some things in place. [0:24:10, 0:24:12]: With the D D A in the main street and um [0:24:13, 0:24:17]: Even though downtown was lively, I think you'll see that it's even more lively now than it was. [0:24:18, 0:24:18]: Ten years ago. [0:24:19, 0:24:20]: Um [0:24:20, 0:24:22]: Went to city of East Point and [0:24:22, 0:24:25]: Oh man, uh talk about a dead downtown. [0:24:25, 0:24:26]: Um [0:24:26, 0:24:29]: I I think that was worse than the city of East, especially a Griffin. [0:24:30, 0:24:34]: Um, but you know, their downtown was bifurcated by Mata. [0:24:34, 0:24:40]: And Norfolk Southern, some of the same challenges. Um, hollowed out downtown, full of parking. [0:24:41, 0:24:46]: Um, we did a master plan a few years ago before I got there, but we started working the plan. [0:24:46, 0:24:52]: Um, and one of the biggest catalyst projects we did was moving City Hall from an old office building. [0:24:52, 0:24:55]: into the downtown area with a brand new city hall. [0:24:56, 0:25:01]: We purchased the adjacent eight acres for the uh commons development. [0:25:01, 0:25:06]: And before I left, and after fact, I hate to say it, but [0:25:06, 0:25:09]: We started up the downtown development authority in [0:25:09, 0:25:12]: Um East Point as well, that was another defunct entity. [0:25:12, 0:25:18]: And in actual fact, the industrial development authority was the Catholic organization in the downtown. [0:25:18, 0:25:19]: We politely kick them out. [0:25:21, 0:25:22]: And took the project away from them. [0:25:23, 0:25:27]: Um and then with a space of three to six months, we were able to purchase. [0:25:28, 0:25:32]: the properties for the commons, which they weren't able to do over about a ten, twelve year period. [0:25:33, 0:25:37]: And now we're about to turn those pretty about to turn those project that property over to [0:25:37, 0:25:40]: The DDA as they've got a new master developer. [0:25:40, 0:25:44]: Um going through all of the planning sessions. [0:25:44, 0:25:45]: For a noob. [0:25:45, 0:25:47]: Four story mixed use development. [0:25:48, 0:25:50]: That's gonna be anchored by [0:25:50, 0:25:52]: Um, would you believe it? Grady Hell Clinic. [0:25:53, 0:25:59]: because we're actually relocating them from a spot they are on um highway 29, swapping spots with them. [0:25:59, 0:26:13]: Um, but giving them a bigger location as well as a bigger presence as part of a redevelopment project. So that's that's gonna be huge. Unfortunate, I wouldn't be I I'm not gonna be there to see see them come out of ground, but was there to make sure we got the contract signed with the developer. [0:26:14, 0:26:15]: Um [0:26:15, 0:26:19]: But bring we also look to bring a lot of some of the same programs to bear. [0:26:19, 0:26:20]: Um [0:26:20, 0:26:21]: In the city of East Point, but [0:26:22, 0:26:25]: I'm stoked to be home. This has been my home for 22 years. [0:26:26, 0:26:30]: Um moved here from Decatur, Illinois back in ninety nine. Yeah. [0:26:31, 0:26:32]: Um, so I've been [0:26:32, 0:26:35]: been here for a number of years and raised my family here. So [0:26:36, 0:26:41]: It's an opportunity to really come back and bring the level of experience that I've had over the last twenty five plus years. [0:26:42, 0:26:45]: Um, to bear and I've got a good man council and I think we've got a good group. [0:26:46, 0:26:48]: Um, for our DDA and the staff. [0:26:48, 0:26:52]: And um I'm gonna be challenging Alan and he'll be challenging me, which is cool. [0:26:52, 0:26:58]: um about how we move and get this thing to the next level. So thank you guys for inviting me. Appreciate being here. [0:26:58, 0:27:01]: And uh I'll be in attendance to many more meetings as we [0:27:02, 0:27:05]: Discuss some of the projects that we want to see come out of the ground in the downtown. [0:27:07, 0:27:11]: Thank thank you, Mr. Gardner. And any questions or comments for Mr. Gardner? [0:27:12, 0:27:12]: Yes. [0:27:14, 0:27:15]: Go ahead, Miss Councilman. [0:27:15, 0:27:20]: And there's one the coun the council member can't answer question because he's he's a member of the council. [0:27:21, 0:27:33]: Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna tell him, listen, uh we we hire Mr. Gardner, we have the utmost confidence in him to execute on the highest level possible. We expect to achieve [0:27:34, 0:27:39]: Uh all of our goals and the best thing about Mr. Gardner, he lives right here. [0:27:39, 0:27:45]: in our community. So he travels these same streets and he will be frequenting the downtown just like [0:27:46, 0:27:58]: uh we've been doing and he understands uh where we're going in terms of the overall goals and the overall investment uh that we want to make in downtown. Thank you. [0:28:00, 0:28:03]: Thank you, Councilman. Any any other comments or questions? [0:28:06, 0:28:26]: Well, I first of all thank you, uh Mr. Gardner, for for uh for uh for for giving us a little bit about your background. Uh it's an impressive um uh range of experience. And I think it's uh the fact that you live here and you're bringing all that experience back to our city um is is a great benefit to us. I mean, I'll say as far [0:28:26, 0:28:46]: You know, I've been serving on the DDA now for uh this is my fifth year. And um we, I can say that you have a motivated group of uh individuals who want to partner with the city and we want to be developers. We may not know how and we may need the guidance. And even though we've been through [0:28:46, 0:29:04]: training it's one thing going to a class for a day or two doing at a conference another thing another it's an it's a whole other thing when you're actually implementing you know revolving loan funds you know incentive deals and actual development so uh we're here to partner with you and to really see our downtown thrive [0:29:05, 0:29:08]: Yeah, so I want to point out that [0:29:08, 0:29:10]: Mr. Gardner and I've had a lot of people. [0:29:10, 0:29:15]: Uh, plenty conversations about um the development. [0:29:15, 0:29:23]: Of of our downtown, and we're going to continue having those conversations. Um, like he mentioned, you know, he he's done it before. [0:29:24, 0:29:24]: And [0:29:25, 0:29:29]: He's progressive just like our council. I tell people all the time that. [0:29:29, 0:29:30]: You know [0:29:30, 0:29:32]: Uh we all share that that one [0:29:33, 0:29:35]: Vision of being the number one city. [0:29:35, 0:29:36]: And Henry County. [0:29:37, 0:29:44]: And um, you know, ms Mr. Gardner shares that vision as well. So it's it's been a pleasure working with him so far. And I I'm looking forward to what we're going to do this year. [0:29:48, 0:29:53]: Roger I'll just add that I'm very excited that Mr. Gardner and Mr. [0:29:53, 0:29:54]: Um [0:29:54, 0:29:59]: Peterson are working on the opportunity zone and I think that's gonna be a game changer. [0:29:59, 0:30:17]: Uh once we secure that and uh understand that's been put together and uh we should see something on that uh in the community. Oh yeah. And I I'll I'll I'll even I'll go a step further in one of the conversations that Alabama uh Alan and I have had was um even looking at trying to do turn uh [0:30:17, 0:30:23]: either the LCI document or we could find the the urban redevelopment plan that was done. [0:30:23, 0:30:26]: Um into a child plan. [0:30:27, 0:30:27]: Mm-hmm. [0:30:27, 0:30:33]: Right. So imagine if we're able to to get a TAD document because I think the city [0:30:34, 0:30:38]: might already have the authority to and not have to go to a referendum anymore. [0:30:39, 0:30:45]: We have I just have to research it, but I think we already have the authority to do a tax allocation district. [0:30:45, 0:30:47]: Um and if we do [0:30:47, 0:30:51]: That's a that's gonna be a a really big game changer because now [0:30:51, 0:30:57]: We can leverage future taxes to make the infrastructure improvements so the private developers don't have to do it. [0:30:57, 0:30:59]: Right, that's a huge incentive. [0:30:59, 0:31:08]: Um, when you're talking about bringing these guys to the table and you take that underground cost away from them or the potential parking deck, because as you know, I mean [0:31:09, 0:31:12]: You you know, when we talk about additional parking downtown for residential. [0:31:13, 0:31:14]: Mixed use development. [0:31:14, 0:31:21]: You're talking fifteen to twenty thousand, but probably now twenty-five to three twenty to twenty-five thousand per space. [0:31:21, 0:31:24]: Um and for a structured parking deck. So [0:31:25, 0:31:28]: Definitely being able to take that seven or eight million dollars. [0:31:29, 0:31:33]: um uh uh expense off a developer is gonna be huge. [0:31:34, 0:31:37]: Um, so we're looking at that as also as an option. [0:31:37, 0:31:41]: And if we're able to make make that happen, I'ma tell you it won't be difficult. [0:31:42, 0:31:50]: Um, especially if we already got the authority to be able to do it. Cause the hardest part is taking it to the voters. But I think Henry County might have done that and they hope. [0:31:50, 0:32:00]: hope sincerely they actually included the cities. Um, I remember it was on the ballot a few years ago. I don't know if anybody remember voting on that the use of the redevelopment powers. [0:32:00, 0:32:04]: And I think it might have been the development authority that did it, but I don't know if they use [0:32:05, 0:32:08]: included the cities, but we'll look at that and we're to as an option as well. [0:32:11, 0:32:13]: Very good. Any other questions or comments from Mr. Wagner? [0:32:16, 0:32:36]: All right, thank you again for being here. And you're welcome to stay for the rest of the meeting. Um, but uh it sounds like you have you have something else to do. So um thanks again. Next up on the agenda is Ms. uh Ebony Thompson, and uh she is the respond one of the uh the respondent for the uh our request for proposal for a social media manager and [0:32:35, 0:32:38]: And uh Emily, we'll turn the floor over to you. Thank you. [0:32:39, 0:32:53]: Sure. Hi everybody. Thank y'all for allowing me to be here. Excited to talk a little bit about social media, which I do 24-7. So this is just, you know, this is a regular day for me, but I'm excited to see your faces. Um [0:32:53, 0:32:57]: I'm gonna go ahead and share my screen. A lot of this is from [0:32:57, 0:33:01]: The proposal submitted, um, but it is highlighting. [0:33:02, 0:33:03]: Can you all see my screen? [0:33:04, 0:33:24]: Yes, I can. Okay. Awesome. Awesome. Um, so I'm gonna go um through a couple of these points just to make sure that number one, you all know who we are, um, who I am, what my passion is, the purpose, and then some of the things that we do. Um, so I am the CEO and founder of the Persona Agency, where digital marketing. [0:33:24, 0:33:28]: agency we focus on social media, digital marketing. [0:33:29, 0:33:42]: Experiential marketing. Any way that you can go ahead and touch somebody, whether that is through social media, it's through communications, it's through the ways that people are connected right now. [0:33:42, 0:33:47]: Um and so I always like to leave by letting people know, you know, when I talk about social media. [0:33:47, 0:34:07]: It's so much more than just like posting a funny meme, right? We all know the impact. We've all visited places because of something we've seen on social. We've all been our minds have been changed because of something we've read on social media. So it's a way to reach customers and readers and really to see what the people you're serving, what they want. Um and never before [0:34:07, 0:34:18]: Has there been a time when brands and businesses have had so much insight to what their target audience wants and needs? And it right now, with the power of social media, it's just it's unmatched. [0:34:18, 0:34:35]: Uh so a little bit about TPA, um, the Persona Agency. I'll just refer to it as TPA because it's it's pretty long to say. Um we are a so uh Stone Mountain based um agency. We opened our doors in 2017, however, before then. [0:34:35, 0:34:42]: Um, I had more than 15 years of advertising, marketing, and social media. I was working with [0:34:42, 0:34:59]: Some some pretty big names. Um I was working with um internet, I was working with IHG, I was working with tech startups, I was working with um Chamber of Commerces starting their tourism and marketing up, and um I was the head of a tech startup. [0:35:00, 0:35:20]: Head of social media. It was the dream job. But if anybody knows anything about startups, um funding is what determines what happens. And so funding fell through, and that led me to what do I do? Do I take all of the expertise, the 15, 20 years of my experience, and try to find another job? Or do I try to use what I know to impact and get into the [0:35:20, 0:35:25]: those nooks and crannies where I know that I can use my experience for good. And so I did the latter. [0:35:25, 0:35:45]: Started my agency and within 30 days, we had our first national client. Within the next next 30 days, we had our second national client. And we have been very selective. We've been blessed to be selective in the type of clients that we work with. Um, we are not looking to work with people just to make money. This is not just a paycheck. This [0:35:45, 0:35:55]: is for impact. And so myself and everyone on my team, we try to make sure that anything that we touch is has a purpose behind it. And so. [0:35:56, 0:36:09]: A little bit about us, of course, the social media management. We do copywriting, graphic design, digital marketing, event activations, social media ads, content strategy, video production, photography, and experiential marketing. [0:36:10, 0:36:30]: Um our team is growing. We actually just hired a new team member that I didn't have a chance to add her photo on here. She started on last week. But this is our team. We have everyone from the associate social media manager to our videographer to Fatima, who handles our graphic design, to our photographer. [0:36:30, 0:36:38]: Our visual person, because one thing we know is that everybody has an expertise, right? And we need to hone in on the people who have those expertises. [0:36:38, 0:36:55]: Uh, a little bit about our experience and the things that we have done. Um, we have worked with um cities like the City of Stone Mountain um DDA, and we um focus on really building the community and businesses and visitor traffic and awareness and visibility. And it was really [0:36:55, 0:37:15]: Starting it, I would I would say from the ground up, uh starting especially from the social media portion of um trying to tap into an untapped resource. So leaning into Instagram, leaning into Facebook, creating really engaging visuals, video, and um really showcasing because the unfortunate. [0:37:15, 0:37:34]: Fortunate part is that a lot of times if you don't know, you just don't know. And if you're not seeing it, there's no way to. So we um we leaned into the strategy, we lead, we leaned into social media paid ads, a little bit of photography and videography, and then lead generation, um, making sure that the people who are visiting. [0:37:34, 0:37:54]: actually know that hey we have newsletters you can join, we have events that you can follow the calendar because again if you don't know, you don't know. And so we have had um really tremendous um response from just being on social and being active and being engaging and really showcasing the businesses because that's that's really the [0:37:54, 0:38:03]: the the the lifeblood of making sure that the businesses feel heard, seen, and that they feel like they're not just out there alone. Um [0:38:04, 0:38:05]: Oh to [0:38:06, 0:38:11]: Um this is another um case study that we did um with prosper care. They lean. [0:38:11, 0:38:28]: They lean a little bit more into um trying to match people who are interested in working with the elderly, but from a purpose, a sense of purpose. So it might be somebody who worked at McDonald's, but they they have this bone within them that is all about care. And so. [0:38:29, 0:38:46]: Our job was to find those people who may have never even considered working, you know, with the elderly, but have that touch. And so this was a lot of lead generation. This was a lot of um reaching people in places where they probably weren't even looking for jobs and looking for a career change and really that letting them know that. [0:38:46, 0:39:06]: We have a choice in what we do. We're not trees. We don't have to stay planted somewhere if we're not being fulfilled. Um, so this was a really, this was a really fun one. And you know, I I love my grandparents and I love my parents. So um it was it was a really um a heartfelt one for me. Um we have worked with some amazing people. [0:39:06, 0:39:16]: Um Omar Johnson, who used to be the former CMO of Beats and Apple Music, he was my direct supervisor when I worked at that tech startup. And I [0:39:17, 0:39:34]: I didn't even know that this was still left in here. So my I don't like to be like, hey, he said this about me, but um Omar said if I searched for 10 other social media managers to do what Ebony does, I wouldn't be able to find them. She and her team are one of a kind. So always nice to hear great things from um great people. [0:39:34, 0:39:37]: Um, I'm just gonna run through a couple of other case studies. Um [0:39:38, 0:39:56]: Handle the social media for Pharrell Williams um podcast called Other Tone. Um this was um also a from the ground um project. This wasn't something we came on and they had all these followers. We literally had to build it. And of course you probably think, oh, Pharrell Williams, you just mentioned his name and people come. [0:39:57, 0:40:16]: But it takes work to build the community. And that's really the part that we were focused on is making sure that the people who listen to the podcast actually feel like they know one of the guests and that they feel heard and that they are are communicating back and forth. So this one was a very um unexpected, but very fun project as well. [0:40:17, 0:40:25]: Um this was the tech startup I told you about. Um we were a Wi-Fi router, which was uh we're based in Atlanta. Um very [0:40:25, 0:40:30]: Um, very well funded. It was a fun project. Um, and I really had [0:40:30, 0:40:35]: free reign to kind of do everything I wanted to do, which was an amazing thing. [0:40:36, 0:40:43]: But we yeah, we worked on the strategy, we worked on the management and then optimization and then the photography and videography. And [0:40:43, 0:40:54]: Design Essentials is another national brand that we work with as well that's more e-commerce focused. But it does it comes in handy, especially when working with retailers, because a lot of the retailers are trying to figure out. [0:40:55, 0:41:15]: How do I get how do I get that e-commerce traffic? How do I get, if I'm not able to get people, you know, physically into my store on a day when I'm closed, how do I utilize social media to draw people so that when I am open, they're coming and they're flooding my door? So this was a project as well. And I will just show one of the videos. Let me see. Um [0:41:16, 0:41:18]: I will show this one. [0:41:19, 0:41:21]: Of course it's gonna be muted. [0:41:22, 0:41:28]: Oh the city of Stone Mountain. Historic, charming, diverse, future focused. [0:41:29, 0:41:49]: The heart of who we are isn't in one person or place. Who we are lies in all 1.7 miles that our beautiful city, also known as Stone Mountain Village, holds. Who we are is painted on the faces of all 7,000 residents that call it home and is planted in each visitor who views our rich city as their favorite escape. It even lies in our [0:41:49, 0:41:57]: future, which we're proud to be writing page by page. Each piece of who we are as the city of Stoke. [0:41:57, 0:42:06]: Like from our private schools to our vibrant businesses, we see the possibilities from every child who sees our baseball fields. [0:42:06, 0:42:10]: We don't know. Oh you oh you can't oh you can only hear it. Okay, that's [0:42:11, 0:42:18]: That's not that separate window. Yeah, it is. Hold on just one second. Let me every I I know you you have um [0:42:19, 0:42:31]: Those are on the YouTube page. So it's well so this this one here isn't um only yeah, only because it was it was a special project that we were doing. Um and we so I don't even [0:42:35, 0:42:36]: And then [0:42:37, 0:42:40]: Oh, there it is right there. Sorry you guys. All right. [0:42:41, 0:42:45]: Um what you yeah. The city of Stone Mountain. [0:42:45, 0:42:49]: Хистори, чами, дирекс, футюче фокус. [0:42:49, 0:43:09]: The heart of who we are isn't in one person or place. Who we are lies in all 1.7 miles that our beautiful city, also known as Stone Mountain Village, holds. Who we are is painted on the faces of all 7,000 residents that call it home and is planted in each visitor who views our rich city as their favorite escape. It even lies in our [0:43:09, 0:43:29]: Future, which we're proud to be writing page by page. Each piece of who we are as the city of Stone Mountain is weaved into what we value. From our thriving schools to our vibrant businesses, we see the possibilities. From every child who sees our baseball fields as their personal theme part, or every elder who will be empowered by [0:43:29, 0:43:42]: access to technology through our Deco project, we believe in the possibilities. To us, Village Forward means seeing, believing, and embracing the beauty of our future. Welcome to the Snake Stone Mountain. [0:43:44, 0:43:44]: All right. [0:43:49, 0:43:54]: Oh, okay. I was making sure that the camera was back on me. You know technology is always funny. Um [0:43:54, 0:44:05]: So that I'm really not, I don't a lot of the other ones are already in the proposal and we also did some um features on a lot of our businesses, um really. [0:44:05, 0:44:25]: trying to get to the background. We do business with people that we we feel comfortable with, right? People that travel the same roads as us, like you just said, people that travel the same roads, people that have the same interests. And so we really wanted to get to the nitty-gritty and be able to showcase who the business owners are and what their passions are for why they why they open their business. [0:44:25, 0:44:35]: business in that city. And it did amazing for the businesses because a lot of them, especially at this quality videography, were not able to just splurge out. [0:44:35, 0:44:55]: A couple thousand dollars, even a couple hundred dollars for a video like that that you can then repurpose. And then we ran ads with them to be able to drive um additional traffic to their business, but then also to um my dog is going crazy downstairs and it's driving me crazy. Um, I'm sorry. Um, but then also trying to make sure that that they know that the [0:44:55, 0:44:59]: the city and the DDA supported them. And so um [0:45:00, 0:45:20]: Yeah, I think that that was everything. I mean, we have a lot more portfolio, but I don't want to bore you with the portfolio when really the the interest I think is the work, making sure um that we we are on the same page in terms of what you're looking for and that we can align to to deliver that. So are there any specific questions? [0:45:20, 0:45:21]: Because I can talk all day about social. [0:45:23, 0:45:24]: Ebony, thank you. Um [0:45:24, 0:45:25]: One thing. [0:45:26, 0:45:27]: That I I really [0:45:27, 0:45:29]: Um enjoy that you all do. [0:45:29, 0:45:39]: And you you touched on it was um those commercials that you did for the businesses, those one to two minute commercials, uh free advertisement, high quality videos. [0:45:40, 0:46:00]: Uh where you highlighted the individual businesses. Is it possible for you to show one of those? Yes, yes, it sure is. Um you all have your pick. Do you want the brewery or gilly's, which is a coffee shop? Uh sweet potato cafe. Oh, sweet potato. Let me do. And you know, they've recently just got their entire [0:46:00, 0:46:07]: Space redone. So this is um a bit outdated, but we can wait. Let me pull it. [0:46:15, 0:46:16]: Well it's green. [0:46:19, 0:46:22]: Okay, can you all see Chef on there? [0:46:23, 0:46:23]: Yes. [0:46:30, 0:46:42]: Sweet Potato Cafe is a farm to table restaurant that's letting you know that everything we do is either locally grown, um, it's freshly made. [0:46:43, 0:47:03]: And we're pretty much telling you where your food is coming from. We have our own on-site garden, which is here at the restaurant, but we also work very closely with one of our other local farmers. And I'm at the market probably every other day, making sure that the food that I'm giving. [0:47:03, 0:47:23]: My customers is totally fresh. Well, if this is your first visit to Sweet Potato Cafe, I would definitely recommend our fried green tomatoes. This is a dish that has been very popular amongst our customers. I have had customers come in and ask: is this the restaurant that sells the fried green tomato? [0:47:23, 0:47:43]: And tomatoes. Plus, we were awarded for those also. Some of the precautions that we have had to deal with uh since COVID started is the fact that we are still not doing dynamic. They are able to eat outside. We have a great patio out there. They can take it to go, which [0:47:43, 0:48:03]: Right now, that's all we're doing anyway. It's carry-out, take out, curbside, which has worked. The thing I love the most about the village are the people. When I started looking for a location for my business, I knew where I wanted to come initially. And that's what I did. And thank God I did because the [0:48:03, 0:48:23]: This house was available. And so my husband and I came in and we renovated it. But the people have been so welcoming here. I've met so many nice people and I've developed so many friendships. You can always find us on Facebook or on Instagram. We're at 5377. [0:48:22, 0:48:24]: Manor drive. [0:48:24, 0:48:38]: You can find us online at thsweetpotatocafe.net and please come down and visit us. We're here and we're here to serve you. And thank you so much. [0:48:40, 0:48:48]: Okay. Yeah, I love, I always love that. It always makes me hungry, but it yeah, it's it's an amazing spot. Um so yeah, we we did. [0:48:48, 0:48:53]: We did about six of those videos where we um did one to two minute videos um and [0:48:53, 0:49:07]: We gave it to the retailers for them to do whatever they wanted to do, but then on our end, we ran ad campaigns to drive traffic to their pages, but then drive awareness to the fact that there was a DDA and we are supporting our downtown and we have businesses here. [0:49:08, 0:49:13]: that are open and thriving and trying to do things. And we really targeted people who [0:49:14, 0:49:34]: Visited, lived in the area and a little bit outside, but then also people who have a tendency to travel. Um, and because if they again, I just continue to say this: if you don't know, you don't know. And so we really targeted people who um liked to go outdoors, who liked to bike, who liked fresh food, who liked um downtown smoke. [0:49:34, 0:49:46]: small towns, main streets. And of course with Facebook, you have the opportunity to be able to target people based on particular standards of what you're looking for. And that really helps to be able to [0:49:46, 0:49:49]: Make sure you're getting good responses on those ads. [0:49:51, 0:49:59]: Any um any thank you, Ebony? Any questions or comments for uh Ebony? Yes, I do. Uh so [0:50:00, 0:50:07]: Uh the focus of this, we're the downtown development authority. So economic development is the push. So [0:50:07, 0:50:11]: Were any of the any new businesses that were actually [0:50:12, 0:50:22]: attracted to downtown during the social media campaign or that you have experience with the successes of attracting new businesses. [0:50:22, 0:50:42]: Yes. So I would say since we've started the social media campaign, there have been that I can think of between five between five new businesses that have started. Um and so that really had to do with some people who grew up in the area, but then some people who had no idea. For for instance, outrun um [0:50:42, 0:50:58]: Outrun brewery opened up a little bit before. No, they they opened up right after we right after we started, but they had been working on this for a couple of years. But their audience had no idea that the city of Stone Mountain and downtown Stone Mountain was even [0:50:59, 0:51:01]: A thing like a this is these are things that I heard. [0:51:01, 0:51:06]: And so knowing and I went to to the guys and I was like, how did you all even hear about [0:51:06, 0:51:10]: opening this and he was like you know we were looking for places and our realtor [0:51:11, 0:51:31]: Our realtor mentioned it to us. So then that was the ding ding ding to me of, okay, we need to be targeting commercial realtors too in all of these ads because this is the way that we are attracting the businesses and attracting those business owners. We've had um a vibrary bookstore that is opened. We have had um a couple of crystal shops that [0:51:31, 0:51:51]: have opened. We have had um a couple a new restaurant that also opened as well, the mayor's house, um, which exists inside of a coffee shop. But these, it's the word of mouth and it's hitting people exactly where they are. So yes, there has been a great response. I I shudder to think what would think what would happen if there was no representation before [0:51:51, 0:51:55]: beforehand because there just wouldn't be any way to touch someone. [0:51:55, 0:51:55]: Um [0:51:56, 0:51:57]: Except meeting them where they are. [0:51:58, 0:52:04]: Okay, let's talk about the numbers. So for your organization, you have a social media page. [0:52:04, 0:52:12]: Does my organization, my company? Yes. Yes. Okay. So what is the what is the how many followers do you have on your page? [0:52:12, 0:52:13]: Um [0:52:13, 0:52:17]: I am not sure exactly how many followers. Um [0:52:18, 0:52:25]: I wanna say it is probably somewhere between seven to seven to eight hundred, maybe. [0:52:25, 0:52:31]: Okay. And so what is the um how many followers does the stone Stone Mountain page have now? [0:52:32, 0:52:35]: uh let me look right now [0:52:38, 0:52:41]: Stone Mountain DA has uh 611. [0:52:42, 0:52:43]: That's what I'm doing. [0:52:44, 0:52:46]: So in terms of [0:52:46, 0:52:48]: The овора річ. [0:52:49, 0:52:53]: How many people are you reaching uh up on these pages? [0:52:53, 0:53:04]: Um, hold on. I can pull up our last report. We send um monthly reports out to everyone. So that would be my best way of if you can just give me two seconds, I can pull it up. [0:53:05, 0:53:05]: Um [0:53:06, 0:53:11]: Last month I know we had an amazing month on Reach. [0:53:22, 0:53:30]: Uh actually yeah just look at this one. So we are doing about [0:53:30, 0:53:35]: 10 to 12,000 um impressions. We're doing um [0:53:36, 0:53:36]: Okay. [0:53:37, 0:53:40]: Ten if ten to twelve thousand impressions. So we're doing probably about [0:53:41, 0:53:53]: 8,000 on reach on average every month, depending on if there are ad campaigns, depending on if you have targeted um videos that are going out to people. It all depends on that. [0:53:54, 0:53:56]: Oh, so you see. [0:53:56, 0:54:00]: Our catalyst now is we have small businesses. [0:54:00, 0:54:09]: But we have a lack of restaurant and a variety. We have like Barn Beautiful down there, which is Mr. Custin is involved with a truly unique business that [0:54:09, 0:54:10]: Um [0:54:10, 0:54:12]: You know, can certainly be [0:54:12, 0:54:16]: Uh the chambers working with them and several other organizations, but we lack [0:54:16, 0:54:18]: The the coffee shop. [0:54:18, 0:54:19]: The bookstore. [0:54:20, 0:54:22]: the complimentary businesses to go with it. [0:54:22, 0:54:25]: But the council threw out this carrot. [0:54:25, 0:54:28]: So are you familiar with the Stockbridge Amphitheater? [0:54:29, 0:54:45]: Yes, I I my team and I were looking at it this morning on our team call and our jaws dropped. Um my family lives in Stockbridge and I didn't realize the first off, the website is beautiful um and it really draws attention to that. So yes, very familiar with it. [0:54:46, 0:54:48]: Okay, well in essence, you know, we [0:54:48, 0:55:03]: You know that we spent 23 million dollars on this facility and it takes a second seat to nobody in the region. So we're gonna tr make your job easier by focusing on the economic development. [0:55:03, 0:55:09]: And then splashes on social media, you know they're celebrity driven. So when you can put [0:55:10, 0:55:19]: May the 7th, uh, Morris Day in the Time is coming. You can put Rick Springfield is coming, all of that in corporation with [0:55:19, 0:55:35]: uh the businesses that are currently there promoting them in order to do that. I have a large social media page myself. My page is called Because We Care Henry, Atlanta South. Our average reach is about a hundred thousand every month. [0:55:35, 0:55:37]: And we do extremely well in terms of [0:55:38, 0:55:41]: catering, you know, getting information out there to the South Metro. [0:55:41, 0:55:42]: Your focus will be [0:55:42, 0:55:45]: narrow narrow in terms of [0:55:45, 0:55:48]: Highlighting the current businesses and their successes. [0:55:49, 0:55:50]: In order to draw in [0:55:51, 0:55:54]: The new businesses downtown and opportunities. [0:55:54, 0:55:56]: uh that would be available. [0:55:56, 0:56:00]: uh to them. You see the family actually lives in Sidebridge, which is interesting. [0:56:01, 0:56:01]: Yeah. [0:56:02, 0:56:08]: My uncle does, yeah. So what part of South Ridges live? Um he lives he on um Henry. [0:56:09, 0:56:11]: He lives on Henry, I'm saying Henry Road. [0:56:12, 0:56:19]: Hold on. Hold on. I was just saying it because I knew that I knew I was going to get asked the street that he lived on. Um [0:56:20, 0:56:21]: Joe Eddings. [0:56:21, 0:56:28]: lives on i'm gonna come back to you with it because i'm i know i can picture it in my head um yeah [0:56:28, 0:56:38]: I know we often go to it. We can drive to it, but if you tell somebody how to get there, you will like, oh, okay, I know how to get there. Yep. So honestly, the city there's been a lot of growth. [0:56:39, 0:56:42]: We have a hundred million dollars in in new investment coming. [0:56:42, 0:56:51]: Uh we just had a$45 million STEM school announcement. So there's a lot of splash things that can draw attention. We just need to focus. [0:56:51, 0:56:54]: In my opinion, on economic development. [0:56:54, 0:56:57]: And business recruitment and retention. [0:56:57, 0:56:58]: Is [0:56:58, 0:57:00]: It again, this is [0:57:00, 0:57:02]: DDA focused is not. [0:57:02, 0:57:06]: W well, it would be the city of course, but at the same time this is [0:57:06, 0:57:15]: The Downtown Development Authority, which is economic development. So your involvement with social media, what about website, web website development? [0:57:15, 0:57:35]: Um, we we we have people on our team who build um build our websites as well. Um, because it it does go it goes hand in hand. Um, because it makes it a lot harder for us on social when we don't have somebody to somewhere to draw people to and send them to and to be able to collect it. Because very much like you, I'm a numbers person. And if I can't quantify. [0:57:36, 0:57:45]: A post, it has to make sense for me. Like it has to make sense for why I'm posting this out here. So yes, we do have people on our team who can build our websites or as well. [0:57:46, 0:57:48]: So Roger, we don't have a website currently, is that correct? [0:57:53, 0:57:54]: Sorry, you muted. [0:57:55, 0:57:59]: Sorry about that. Um we the DDA has a page on the City of Stockbridges website. [0:58:00, 0:58:03]: Okay, right. The D D A those ones say we need our own [0:58:03, 0:58:05]: Uh independent as a separate entity. [0:58:06, 0:58:12]: uh have our own website. So certainly that should be included in the scope of work with anybody that we would choose. [0:58:12, 0:58:14]: That they will be able to work on the social media. [0:58:15, 0:58:17]: Са а злом аз до вебсайт. [0:58:17, 0:58:19]: А звел формат презент. [0:58:20, 0:58:21]: Uh uh there. So [0:58:22, 0:58:25]: Um the presentation was impressive and uh [0:58:25, 0:58:27]: You know, uh the fact that [0:58:27, 0:58:30]: Yeah, you have people here in Stockbridge, certainly. [0:58:30, 0:58:40]: They understand you you will be here, you will come here because certain certainly you will visit the family and then they will tell you what's going on here. [0:58:40, 0:58:52]: uh as well. So that's that's uh certainly good news. And um and it's Harper Drive. Sorry, it's Harper Drive. Okay, Harper Drive. I'm trying to figure that. Okay. Um [0:58:52, 0:58:54]: Okay, well let's um [0:58:54, 0:58:55]: Um [0:58:55, 0:59:03]: Let's see what we can do about uh so those this was the own this was the response to the solicitation. It was the only one we received pretty much. [0:59:05, 0:59:07]: Okay. And Alan, you're familiar with Ms. Thompson? [0:59:09, 0:59:11]: Uh yes, sir. When I when I was [0:59:11, 0:59:12]: The [0:59:13, 0:59:16]: Downtown Development Authority Director for Stone Mountain. Uh [0:59:17, 0:59:23]: did this, did this program again. I started this, this um social media campaign and Ebony is who we went with. [0:59:24, 0:59:39]: Okay, and and where are your offices located at, Thomas? Uh in the in the city of Snow Mountain. So downtown Snow Mountain. We have um I actually own a co-working space down in um downtown Snow Mountain and our offices are based out of there. [0:59:39, 0:59:41]: You need a south side location too. [0:59:42, 0:59:54]: You know what? One of my team members actually lives very close. And so when I told her about this, she got super excited and actually started looking for places. I was like, wait a minute, slow down. [0:59:54, 1:00:00]: Okay, okay. Well thank you. I'm very impressed with uh the work and um certainly it's uh [1:00:00, 1:00:05]: You know, the exactly what uh I would think that uh isn't fitting with what we're trying to [1:00:06, 1:00:07]: Thank you. [1:00:07, 1:00:08]: Thank you. [1:00:09, 1:00:11]: Any other questions or comments for everything? [1:00:13, 1:00:18]: We I agree. Very, very impressive presentation. Um it it looks good. [1:00:19, 1:00:28]: Thank you. Thank you. And I want to just thank you all. Um, I think that you all have done a remarkable job. We um, of course. [1:00:28, 1:00:48]: I told you all earlier we are very particular with making sure that the type of clients that we would work with um that it aligns with who we are and what we do. And my passion and my background is tourism and marketing. I started with Visit Florida, um, down in Florida and worked there for about seven years, moved up to Alabama to care for my grandmother and started. [1:00:48, 1:01:07]: the tourism brand at Calhoun County from the ground up, working with the Chamber of Commerce, working with the economic development team to really build in and highlight the area, but then also to make the community feel like they were a part of what we were doing. So I'm extremely excited about the opportunity and I just want to thank you all. [1:01:09, 1:01:12]: Thank you. Appreciate you being with us tonight. Thank you. [1:01:15, 1:01:35]: All right. Um we will move on to the next item on the agenda. So we'll just go through our uh regular staff reports. Uh and and ebony, you're welcome to stay or you're welcome to go either way. Um I know this is maybe the maybe the uh less exciting part of the meeting for you. [1:01:37, 1:01:57]: Um all right, and as far as uh chairman's content uh comments, uh I do want to uh share with you all I did attend, I registered for and attended the uh DDA training that was offered by our attorney, um Mr. McCray. Free training. There's actually three or four separate sessions. So if you [1:01:57, 1:02:17]: If you did not get a chance to register for the training that's occurring today and tomorrow, there are two half day sessions. Um, there's another opportunity later on in the month. Uh, if you're interested in that, I do recommend it with information. There was a guest speaker from um actually the gentleman we're working with at uh Georgia Tech who helped us with. [1:02:16, 1:02:36]: The uh uh master planning as well as um a representative from the Department of Community Affairs on the different um funding options that are available to DDA. So it's very informative and I highly recommend it. Let me know if you need some more information on that. Um I wanted to bring up the point because we touched [1:02:36, 1:02:56]: Touched on this uh item um about four months ago, actually towards the end of last year, about an in-person meeting. I understand that the the city council, if I understand it correctly, is going to start having uh in-person meetings. Um and I wanted to just uh open up the floor briefly to get your opinions on whether or not we [1:02:56, 1:03:16]: should move to an in-person meeting. I will say out of the just before we open it up for discussion, from my understanding as far as how the meeting facilities at City Hall are equipped, it is not equipped for a hybrid meeting. That means that you could have some people attending in the meeting [1:03:16, 1:03:36]: Room and have cameras and audio enough to be able to also share the meeting with those who are attending via Zoom. It's really one or the other, and the way I understand it, unless the meeting, unless the equipment is set up in the room for a hybrid meeting. So um I think it's an either or option, but I wanted to. [1:03:36, 1:03:45]: hear the uh board's thoughts on um you know whether we should consider moving toward it towards an in-person meeting. So I'm up on the floor for discussion. [1:03:46, 1:03:47]: Chair Custom. [1:03:47, 1:03:54]: Yes, Vanessa. Um, if you don't mind, the um council chamber has always been set up to [1:03:54, 1:03:55]: Meat. [1:03:55, 1:03:58]: In person and also stream online. [1:03:58, 1:03:59]: So that [1:03:59, 1:04:00]: Is [1:04:01, 1:04:02]: Um available. [1:04:03, 1:04:08]: So if someone wanted to come to the meeting in person, they could. And if someone wanted to watch it. [1:04:09, 1:04:12]: Stream it online live, they could do that as well. [1:04:12, 1:04:25]: All right, but it would be in the council chamber, not the medium that we were using. All right, good to know. And we obviously would need to uh manage the schedule around the city council's. [1:04:26, 1:04:27]: Use of it, of course. [1:04:27, 1:04:28]: All right. [1:04:28, 1:04:30]: Good to know. Thank you. You're welcome. [1:04:34, 1:04:40]: Bob, I know you've had some thoughts on this in the past, but um what what's your current feeling? [1:04:40, 1:04:45]: Um I I'm like I say I'm old school. I always always prefer in person meetings. [1:04:46, 1:04:47]: However [1:04:48, 1:04:51]: You know, I'm just thinking I I guess I guess Zoom is growing on me, maybe. [1:04:52, 1:04:57]: Uh I I'm wondering if it's more convenient to get everybody together via Zoom. [1:04:57, 1:05:04]: And that's that's that's easier for everyone to get together as opposed to everyone coming down to City Hall. [1:05:04, 1:05:05]: Um [1:05:06, 1:05:09]: Like I said, I'll I'll I'll do either way, but um [1:05:11, 1:05:14]: I'm just wondering w what'd be what would be the easiest for for all of us? [1:05:15, 1:05:15]: Right. [1:05:16, 1:05:36]: Um so um I I I you know I have my own opinion about that. I'm I'm somewhat neutral, but I do find that it is easier for myself as well as it's probably easier to get guest speakers and and presenters to join when it doesn't involve uh travel. So I think that is a that is an important factor to consider. [1:05:38, 1:05:42]: All right. Um councilman or Mr. Sears? Any council? [1:05:43, 1:05:51]: Well, I'm gonna leave it up to you all what to do. As the liaison, that's what I do. Whatever y'all decide, that's what we'll do. [1:05:52, 1:05:53]: Very good. [1:05:54, 1:05:55]: Mr. Sears, any thoughts? [1:05:57, 1:05:59]: No, I um you know, like I said, like [1:06:00, 1:06:02]: Uh I agree what is convenient. [1:06:02, 1:06:17]: Um, you know, we're still getting out of this. Uh so I don't know what date what dateline you have, you know, what are you looking for? I know last time we had said March and March has left us. So because we were just getting of the pandemic. [1:06:17, 1:06:37]: So uh, you know, so I guess unlike um Ms. Holliday said, if you couldn't do both, you know, for those with gas price and all of those other things until certain things to stabilize. Uh, you know, so um leaning on what's convenient for most everybody too. Uh I'll be looking at the [1:06:37, 1:06:52]: perspective and what is best, like you say, and as Bob said, you know, Zoom has good on us, you know, because we can, you know, be at an office and do our thing instead of leaving. It's time by the travel time or other time, but people might be fall. [1:06:52, 1:07:04]: And they just could hook up zone. So or we do a a little pout some zone or some office, you know, so we can put it up in there and see what what falls. [1:07:05, 1:07:25]: All right. Thank you. So it sounds like we don't have a strong opinion one way or the other, but it I I guess I'm getting a sense that there's maybe a little bit of a lean towards um just the convenience of of doing it through Zoom, especially with um in my opinion, is um that's more of a factor with um having the benefit of the guest speakers that [1:07:25, 1:07:45]: join us and um making that a little bit easier. Um councilman, I guess it will we well we might leave it as do you if you could check to see if the city council would have any objection if we were if the DDA were to consider to use the um the council chamber for its meetings, would would there be any objection from the council perspective? [1:07:44, 1:07:45]: You know. [1:07:46, 1:07:55]: The youth council uses the chamber now, so I couldn't imagine there being any objections as long as we're not using it, but I certainly will circ I'll circle back. [1:07:56, 1:07:57]: Very good. Thank you. That's good to know. [1:07:58, 1:08:14]: All right, and uh so that's the that's really the two items I wanted to touch on as far as the chairman's reports. Um we'll move past the uh treasurer update. Uh Barber's not able to join us, uh so we'll move to item uh three C, Secretary updates. Bob, do you have anything for the group? [1:08:14, 1:08:22]: Uh I'm I'm scheduled for the uh the uh D D A training in June, so I'm I'm glad that you went through it and it's a good uh I look forward to that in June. [1:08:23, 1:08:25]: Um, other than I don't have anything. [1:08:27, 1:08:28]: Thank you. [1:08:29, 1:08:41]: And that brings us to the uh Main Street Advisory Board update. So Kira, I hope if you're still with us, there you are. You've been very patient. I hope you uh appreciated some of the earlier content. [1:08:41, 1:08:48]: Yes, I did, definitely. Um, I just have a few items that I would like to touch on. Um [1:08:48, 1:08:54]: Good evening, everyone. Um, we are moving forward with the repurposing of the Ted Strickland building. [1:08:55, 1:08:56]: Um council did make [1:08:57, 1:09:03]: The decision mayor and council did make the decision to move forward with that and our funding has been approved. [1:09:03, 1:09:06]: And a contract has been [1:09:06, 1:09:07]: Um, proffer to [1:09:08, 1:09:12]: The selected contractor, so we're just in the process of getting all of that. [1:09:12, 1:09:13]: Um [1:09:14, 1:09:20]: Complete it and then we'll be looking for our contractor to give us a provide us with a calendar. [1:09:20, 1:09:21]: for the construction period. [1:09:22, 1:09:27]: Um small business Saturday preparations have started actually. [1:09:27, 1:09:32]: Um, we want to come out of this pandemic situation um with [1:09:32, 1:09:38]: All um wheels turning and getting as many businesses, small businesses. [1:09:38, 1:09:46]: Involved in this year's recognition of Small Business Saturday as possible. We're working earlier on this project and [1:09:46, 1:09:49]: Trying to work smarter as opposed to harder. [1:09:50, 1:09:52]: With regard to this because it does take. [1:09:52, 1:09:54]: A lot of effort and um [1:09:55, 1:09:58]: Community building around this particular initiative. [1:09:58, 1:10:08]: Again, as we did last year, we are going to be doing a November small business blitz here in the city of Stockbridge. So we'll be um [1:10:08, 1:10:16]: Recognizing and promoting and really pushing the community to support small businesses throughout the entire month of November. [1:10:16, 1:10:36]: with everything culminating on Small Business Saturday. So we're looking forward to pushing that forward. And we have a committee that has been established to work on this project or this initiative. So if there's anyone who is interested in serving on that committee, please [1:10:36, 1:10:46]: Please let me know. You can just shoot me an email and we'll make sure that you receive our meeting calendar because we have started meeting and we're meeting pretty frequently. [1:10:46, 1:11:03]: Uh, we also have um a public art piece unveiling. Um, Mr. Hemming alluded to it a little bit in his um presentation, but that is going to be on Friday, the 22nd at 230 p.m. We have um created a partnership. [1:11:03, 1:11:04]: With the um [1:11:04, 1:11:15]: CVB Arts Consortium. And as you all know, we have um initiated a public arts program here in the city of Stockbridge and the Main Street program. [1:11:15, 1:11:22]: is um trying to collaborate with local artists and this is one of our first steps toward doing that. [1:11:23, 1:11:33]: Um we have several um locations um that were identified in our RSVP um downtown planning, as well as some other um [1:11:34, 1:11:35]: Areas that have um [1:11:35, 1:11:37]: become available to us as well. [1:11:38, 1:11:41]: So we are really, really moving forward with. [1:11:41, 1:11:44]: Um this public arts initiative and [1:11:44, 1:12:00]: This is one of our second, well actually this is our third installation with this particular group, and we're looking forward to working with them on bigger projects. But everyone is invited to our unveiling, and we look forward to seeing you all on Friday. [1:12:02, 1:12:04]: And that concludes my report for now. [1:12:07, 1:12:26]: But Kira, what exactly what is a squirrel table? A squirrel table is um a small um picnic table. Um it looks like um it's made out of wood and uh we have been placing well the arts consortium has been placing them. [1:12:26, 1:12:30]: Um all over Henry County, if you are familiar with [1:12:30, 1:12:50]: Geocaching, it's a similar trail that has been developed around these particular artworks. And people, they're very popular. People are traveling all over the county looking for them. They take selfies with them. There are incentive programs that are built around this particular trail. So it's really a [1:12:50, 1:12:53]: A tourism tool that has um really um [1:12:54, 1:13:14]: Gotten received some legs and people are really enjoying it. But it's just a small wooden table, and they have selected different artists from the community to paint them. Um, they're very vibrant. Some of them have um kind of cheeky themes, um, but they're all works of art and they are um in [1:13:13, 1:13:19]: installed in outdoor locations. So um during the pandemic, the um [1:13:19, 1:13:31]: trail was launched and we got a lot of buzz. So if you're able to visit the um Henry County um visit Henry County website, there is an entire um [1:13:31, 1:13:34]: section of the website devoted to [1:13:34, 1:13:39]: The squirrel table project and they have the artists listed, there's a map. [1:13:40, 1:13:52]: There's a lot of information about the project, but we're very happy to be a participant and we're looking forward to being a part of the Arts Consortium partner. [1:13:52, 1:13:54]: partnership in the future. [1:13:56, 1:13:56]: Thank you. [1:13:56, 1:13:57]: Mm-hmm. [1:14:00, 1:14:08]: Thank you, Kira. And pardon me, I've turned my camera off. I'm having um internet slow. So hopefully you can at least hear me. Um [1:14:08, 1:14:11]: Yes, I can hear you. All right. Uh the um [1:14:12, 1:14:15]: Do you have any up any any updates on the alleyway project? [1:14:17, 1:14:23]: Um, we have met with um the engineers. Um, we've had several meetings with them. [1:14:24, 1:14:32]: Um we also had a meeting re most recently with the attorneys that are working with us on the project. [1:14:32, 1:14:34]: There are some um property. [1:14:35, 1:14:40]: um issues that we need to iron out with regard to easements and that sort of thing in order to [1:14:40, 1:14:41]: Um [1:14:41, 1:14:43]: Get the project started. [1:14:43, 1:14:48]: But we are working on that behind the scenes. So as soon as that part of the project [1:14:48, 1:14:58]: uh part of the I guess pre-planning for the project is done. We'll be able to start moving forward with that. Uh oh, I did um not mention the um [1:14:59, 1:15:05]: The sewer um renovations that are going on, they are redoing all of the sewer lines in that. [1:15:06, 1:15:07]: Downtown area. [1:15:07, 1:15:12]: I sent out um information to all of the downtown business owners to [1:15:12, 1:15:17]: Let them know about the project and t to kind of give them a [1:15:17, 1:15:26]: Um an idea of how long the project is going to last. Burke Street and sections of Jim Clark were closed. [1:15:26, 1:15:34]: And um Birch Street is closed now for through traffic, but there are detours with signage. [1:15:34, 1:15:38]: Um that kind of direct people to the businesses that are downtown. [1:15:38, 1:15:43]: And to other um, I guess necessary places that they would need to go. [1:15:44, 1:15:53]: And um we've been getting regular updates from the contractor that is working on that project. And when I get those updates, I do send them out to [1:15:53, 1:15:57]: Our downtown business owners, so we're trying to keep them a well aware of. [1:15:58, 1:16:05]: what's happening with the project and how it's moving, but it is going to um progress down Burke Street. [1:16:06, 1:16:15]: and over toward um where the Clark Park is located. So it's a big project and it's gonna take um some time, but [1:16:15, 1:16:20]: In the long run, it's gonna be better for our downtown um [1:16:20, 1:16:23]: area because it will help with some of the [1:16:23, 1:16:38]: drainage problems that we've been experiencing and the antiquated system that was underground was just in need of an overhaul. So we're really excited that it's going on and we're looking forward to it to be completed. [1:16:39, 1:16:42]: Thank you. Appreciate that. Any other questions or comments for Kira? [1:16:43, 1:16:44]: Yes. [1:16:45, 1:17:05]: Uh Mr. Peterson, I think we've done a lot of talking and we're excited to council about the moving forward with the Main Street. I think we're calling it the Main Street uh office, but there's DDA space and there's shared space. Talk to tell the DDA members about the shared space and between Main Street [1:17:05, 1:17:12]: street and the DDA where there there will be space in the building uh for the DDA office as well. [1:17:12, 1:17:15]: Uh yes, they're in the Ted Strickland. [1:17:15, 1:17:24]: Um, Main Street will be there, DDA will be there, and economic development will be there. I have an office, Kira and Lisa, our wonderful Main Street staff. [1:17:25, 1:17:27]: They have offices as well, and there's also [1:17:27, 1:17:36]: And an extra office. We also have a large conference room. So if the DDA ever need to use that office, uh it it is available. [1:17:37, 1:17:40]: Um it it's a it's a wonderful facility. [1:17:41, 1:17:48]: Uh let's see. Kira pictures of it, Kira, to share with the group. Yeah, I was gonna ask if we can pull up. Let me see. [1:17:51, 1:17:52]: Uh [1:17:55, 1:17:57]: Carrie are mute. [1:17:59, 1:18:00]: Let me see. [1:18:19, 1:18:21]: I can I can share my screen. [1:18:22, 1:18:23]: Okay. And [1:18:24, 1:18:25]: Probably not. [1:18:29, 1:18:30]: Can everyone see? [1:18:30, 1:18:40]: Yes. Yes. Okay. This is the the presentation from the council meeting. This is the outside of the of the Ted Strickland. [1:18:43, 1:18:47]: All right, this is the current floor plan as you can see. [1:18:47, 1:18:51]: It's uh somewhat bare, a lot of open space. [1:18:53, 1:19:11]: This is the proposed floor plan. On the well, when you first walk in, you see that that reception area. On the left, you'll see that that uh that large conference room with the uh the folding glass doors. That's going to be really nice. And on the right side. [1:19:11, 1:19:15]: You will see uh the four office spaces. [1:19:15, 1:19:20]: And we do have an extra office for the DDA if they ever need to use it. [1:19:21, 1:19:26]: You see the kitchen and the storage, the the work area. [1:19:26, 1:19:32]: uh the coat closet. So this is going to be a a great building in our downtown. We can use it um [1:19:33, 1:19:35]: To entertain prospects. [1:19:36, 1:19:37]: And it's good for [1:19:37, 1:19:38]: D D A [1:19:39, 1:19:41]: Uh, Main Street and Economic Development. [1:19:41, 1:19:46]: to be right there in the heart of heart of the downtown. So we're we're very excited about this project. [1:19:46, 1:19:51]: and very excited about the work that we can do with the community being here. [1:19:52, 1:19:52]: See [1:19:53, 1:19:56]: That's this right here is the proposed design. [1:19:58, 1:20:02]: You can see it's very, very nice. And Kira, if you have anything to add. [1:20:02, 1:20:04]: Go ahead. Feel free to come in. [1:20:07, 1:20:08]: You're doing fine. [1:20:10, 1:20:16]: All right. Um more details on on what that inside will look like as far as furniture is concerned. [1:20:19, 1:20:22]: And here we have some numbers, the [1:20:22, 1:20:25]: projected cost uh the capital funding. [1:20:26, 1:20:26]: Um [1:20:27, 1:20:33]: That is backed by the SPLOST is where that funding will come from. And on the right, you'll have that detailed. [1:20:33, 1:20:35]: Item description and that total cost. [1:20:39, 1:20:40]: And [1:20:40, 1:20:42]: That's it, but I want to go back to this. [1:20:42, 1:20:45]: This floor plan, the proposed floor plan, where [1:20:45, 1:20:47]: We're very excited. [1:20:47, 1:20:49]: To move in into this. [1:20:49, 1:20:51]: into this uh into this space and [1:20:52, 1:20:53]: Does the board have any questions? [1:20:54, 1:21:05]: Yeah, one other qu I didn't see a rendering of what the outside would look like. So what is is there a rendering of the changes to the outside? Obviously, go back to the first picture. [1:21:06, 1:21:08]: There aren't gonna be any changes to the outside. [1:21:09, 1:21:16]: So there's no indication that this is the Main Street building. It's still gonna leave the Ted Strickland sign up there. [1:21:17, 1:21:26]: Well, what we're gonna propose to council is a name change from the Ted Strickland Community Center to the Ted Strickland Building and then um have Welcome Center. [1:21:27, 1:21:34]: Um, I guess where you see the community center, it would probably say downtown welcome center or welcome center. [1:21:36, 1:21:43]: Okay. It's gonna still is the Ted Strick the t the name Ted Strickland is still gonna be there and then it'll be I'm sorry. [1:21:44, 1:21:46]: Say that I'm sorry, I I got [1:21:46, 1:21:47]: We were confused. [1:21:48, 1:21:53]: We were going to be proposing a name change from the community center. [1:21:53, 1:21:59]: Um I am not co um I guess sure of the [1:21:59, 1:22:06]: um history behind the the actual naming of the building, if there are any caveats with regard to [1:22:06, 1:22:07]: How [1:22:07, 1:22:10]: long the building has to be stay it has to [1:22:11, 1:22:13]: Keep that particular name. [1:22:13, 1:22:17]: Um, I don't know. I would have to research if there are any um [1:22:17, 1:22:20]: Restrictions on changing the name of the building. [1:22:20, 1:22:21]: From to strip them. [1:22:22, 1:22:30]: Okay, so it the proposal would be the Ted Strickland Welcome Center. So it's not going to be the No, the Ted Strickland Building. [1:22:30, 1:22:32]: And then and welcome center. [1:22:33, 1:22:36]: It because right now it says community center and that's a misnomer. [1:22:37, 1:22:40]: It would not be the community center anymore. [1:22:42, 1:22:44]: Okay, I mean it's it seemed like [1:22:44, 1:22:51]: I mean the building would be uh insignificant if it was just left his name up there and then you just put welcome center. [1:22:52, 1:23:08]: It but is is uh or you looking at the caveat that it must be named community center because if you just simply said it was the Ted Strickland Welcome Center, his name is still there and you basically just change a Ted Strickland Building and Welcome Center. [1:23:08, 1:23:19]: Um, I don't know if there are any restrictions um for removing the name community center, but that would be our recommendation because it's no longer a community center. That is what has [1:23:19, 1:23:22]: essentially changed with regard to the building, but [1:23:23, 1:23:23]: Um [1:23:25, 1:23:26]: I would have to research that. [1:23:27, 1:23:30]: Okay. And then it would be good to have a rendering from [1:23:31, 1:23:34]: uh the architect on what the actual sign [1:23:34, 1:23:39]: would look like on on the building. So that would be, you know, certainly [1:23:40, 1:23:49]: uh in keeping with where we're trying to go. So there's no aesthetics on the outside of the building, the landscaping, nothing is changing on the outside at all. [1:23:51, 1:23:57]: Um, as far as the physical structure of the building, no, that will not be changed. [1:23:57, 1:24:04]: Um, we were trying to keep costs down and stay within our budget, and we've come in under budget. [1:24:04, 1:24:14]: Um s but we will be doing some um landscaping. We have had an initial meeting with our um landscape company. [1:24:14, 1:24:20]: And we will be um they have submitted a landscaping proposal. [1:24:20, 1:24:25]: Um we have already moved forward. I've worked with um [1:24:25, 1:24:27]: Арпублікс директор а [1:24:27, 1:24:32]: And he has approved for us to remove all of that pine straw that you see. [1:24:33, 1:24:38]: In front of the building and around the building. Um, and we're going to be replacing that with a type of mulch. [1:24:39, 1:24:45]: The pine straw tends to blow and is all over the place. And I'm sure um Mr. Custon. [1:24:45, 1:24:46]: Can attest to that. [1:24:46, 1:24:51]: So we want to get rid of that pine straw look and have a more um solid. [1:24:52, 1:24:52]: Um [1:24:53, 1:24:54]: Bedding there. [1:24:54, 1:24:58]: We also have some um floral recommendations that have been made. [1:24:59, 1:25:05]: and um revamping of the flower beds. So as far as that front entrance. [1:25:05, 1:25:10]: With regard to landscape, that will look different, but the physical um structure. [1:25:14, 1:25:15]: You're muted, Kira. [1:25:18, 1:25:19]: Okay. [1:25:20, 1:25:21]: Can you hear me now? [1:25:22, 1:25:24]: Okay, but the the physical structure of the building. [1:25:25, 1:25:29]: um will not be changed, just the landscaping around it will be changed. [1:25:30, 1:25:38]: Okay, and uh so just for the benefit of the group, what's your what's your optimum timetable for completion? [1:25:40, 1:25:41]: If everything went right. [1:25:42, 1:25:50]: Everything went right when we spoke with the contractor. They said it would be 90 to 120 days. [1:25:50, 1:26:10]: Okay. So that's that's real. I mean, certainly that's uh, you know, if everything goes right, of course, the caveat. So that would certainly get us in there before the end of the year, even at the worst case scenario, I would think. If it that if that's an every uh if everything goes right scenario, 120 days would put us maybe the end of summer. So optimistically, certainly by the end [1:26:10, 1:26:17]: of the year uh the space would be available. Yeah. That is true. And that was one of the things that we discussed. [1:26:17, 1:26:23]: with the contractor that was selected that we really wanted to be in the building before the end of the year. [1:26:24, 1:26:28]: And so they are going to work as diligently as possible to make that happen. [1:26:30, 1:26:36]: Okay. Now one of the other things, don't ask this because I don't know whether you know we've often talked about [1:26:36, 1:26:46]: uh Wi Fi for downtown. Let's say visitors come to the welcome center. W would we be able to use the Wi Fi there to to actually [1:26:46, 1:26:48]: Um інkoporate [1:26:49, 1:26:52]: downtown Wi Fi from this center. Is that possible? [1:26:53, 1:27:00]: Well, that is one of the things that we do want to have in place because we're going to be developing that courtyard area. [1:27:00, 1:27:04]: The courtyard is phase two of the alleyway project. [1:27:04, 1:27:12]: And um we want to kind of make that an extension of the welcome center where we would have seating, um, free Wi-Fi. [1:27:12, 1:27:21]: um different outdoor game offerings like you know how you have chess and th those types of things that are a part of the furniture. Those are the [1:27:22, 1:27:25]: What we're looking into being able to create. [1:27:25, 1:27:28]: Um an extension of that particular center. [1:27:29, 1:27:32]: Okay, well I'm certainly in support of that. Thank you. [1:27:32, 1:27:33]: Mm-hmm. [1:27:36, 1:27:39]: Thank you, Kieran. I do agree with uh councilman's [1:27:39, 1:27:59]: uh points about the name to simplify because from the outside I don't think that anyone would know that it's any different from what it was before. Um so I think the word welcome center and if if uh you know with all due respect to Mr. Strickland if there's the opportunity to simplify that to just be the welcome center is uh I think would be beneficial [1:27:59, 1:28:02]: [5287.2, 5289.0]: Roger, you froze if you can hear us. [1:28:18, 1:28:38]: Um uh so any other comment, if I may, you know, we we've uh Bob and myself and Alan, we've done some work in revise revising and consolidating some of the application and the overview documents. Um the only thing that remains right now is to get um um uh access to the actual online form, which [1:28:38, 1:28:58]: which is where the folks would submit an application and get that revised to align with the new overview document that we've revised. Once that done, then the updates will have been completed. The other part of that would is the is marketing the facade grant. And I would uh expect that that to be in line [1:28:57, 1:29:15]: with um the decision on the social media uh manager so um that's where we are in that any questions on the facade grant updates we lost before about 30 seconds there okay sorry about that let me let me try to i'll stop the video again maybe that'll help um [1:29:15, 1:29:16]: I [1:29:17, 1:29:37]: I'm not sure where it dropped off, but uh we have we've uh Bob and Alan and I have revised the uh consolidated the uh paperwork and application that's on the public website for the facade grant um program. And we have um the only thing that remains on that is the actual online application. And once we get access to that. [1:29:37, 1:29:57]: And we'll revise the online application, then that should be um ready to go with the updated information. Um, the I will bring it to vote in our next meeting because we did make a few tweaks to the uh program procedures, and I want to make sure that that's um um. [1:29:57, 1:30:03]: you know, that that the board agrees with the uh recommended changes. Um so we should have that ready for our next meeting. [1:30:04, 1:30:11]: Any any questions or comments? Yeah, as you mentioned the social media manager, she's applied already. So [1:30:11, 1:30:14]: Are we waiting on the vote or I mean is it [1:30:15, 1:30:17]: plausible to just go ahead and move forward with it. [1:30:17, 1:30:37]: Yeah, I mean I have I mean I I've reviewed the um I've reviewed the proposal. Bob's taken a look at it as well. Um I, you know, I I I didn't give the you know yourself um and uh Mr. Sears uh a long time to uh review the uh proposal, but um I think it looks fine. [1:30:37, 1:30:57]: I think she uh meets the basic needs. I've not seen the cost portion of the proposal. And I understand that Mr. Peterson will get that. So I'm not really comfortable asking for a vote until we know what the cost would be. But on the merits of the proposal itself, I think that she does fit and she's very much in line with what with what we're [1:30:57, 1:30:58]: We're looking for. [1:31:00, 1:31:01]: And I agree with that. [1:31:01, 1:31:07]: Right. Certainly. I I I d I thought we were gonna be able to have the cost information, so certainly we would. [1:31:07, 1:31:17]: need that I would have thought that that would have come with the presentation, but how soon do we expect that, Ms. Peterson? Oh I I can I can request the cost information. [1:31:17, 1:31:21]: Uh tonight I do know that she has uh different packages. [1:31:22, 1:31:22]: And [1:31:23, 1:31:26]: And packages the package that you get determines the cost. [1:31:27, 1:31:27]: Um [1:31:27, 1:31:31]: We could also see if we could, you know, put together our own little package, piecemeal it. [1:31:32, 1:31:38]: to see. So I'll um I'll contact her and um we can discuss that and she can get that over right right to us. [1:31:38, 1:31:39]: Okay, thank you. [1:31:40, 1:31:40]: Okay. [1:31:41, 1:31:42]: Anything else on the facade group? [1:31:43, 1:31:49]: All right, uh city staff updates. So Alan, that uh that's for you. You have anything to share with the group? [1:31:50, 1:31:53]: All right, everyone. Um everything is everything has been. [1:31:54, 1:32:13]: uh discussed so far dating back to dating back earlier this this meeting uh mr gardener discussed uh what we're doing with the dca the the ddrl and the opportunity zone him and i have been discussing that we're working on that um also we have uh the cid feasibility study that's going on [1:32:14, 1:32:26]: Even though that's not in our downtown development authority district, that is sort of a gateway to the DDA. So uh that's that's very, very important and it it is going to benefit the DDA. [1:32:26, 1:32:27]: Um [1:32:27, 1:32:34]: Georgia Tech has received all the documents for the market study. We just had Ebony present uh for the social media. [1:32:35, 1:32:41]: And everything is going well, everything is going as planned. We're moving right along. We're moving actually rather quickly. And everything that we're doing. [1:32:42, 1:32:42]: Uh [1:32:43, 1:32:46]: Serves as as as an incentive for businesses to come. [1:32:46, 1:32:49]: So I I think we're we're moving along and um [1:32:50, 1:32:53]: You know, we're we're doing a great job right now. Things are things are moving smoothly. [1:32:56, 1:33:00]: Very good. Um, all right, any questions for Alan? [1:33:02, 1:33:06]: All right, uh that brings us to city council updates. So councilman, you have the floor. [1:33:07, 1:33:13]: Uh thank you. You know, it was really exciting to have the Henry County School Board come. [1:33:14, 1:33:17]: And unveil the sign in downtown. [1:33:18, 1:33:18]: I'm sorry. [1:33:22, 1:33:27]: Uh yes, it was extremely exciting to have the Henry County School Board and the Superintendent come. [1:33:28, 1:33:31]: And unveil the sign for the new Henry County STEM School. [1:33:32, 1:33:35]: They were as excited as we were about the project. [1:33:36, 1:33:38]: They're fully engaged. We now know that. [1:33:39, 1:33:46]: Uh without a doubt, knock on wood it is coming. It should open in twenty twenty six uh is the uh turnaround time. [1:33:47, 1:33:55]: And they've committed to uh, you know, the total overall package, which includes a new gymnasium for the [1:33:55, 1:33:59]: Stockbridge elementary and the actual refurbishing. [1:33:59, 1:34:10]: of Stockbridge Elementary, not just uh the new facility. So uh when everything's all said and done, uh Stockbridge Elementary will be fur refurbished with a new gener with a new [1:34:11, 1:34:12]: uh gymnasium. [1:34:12, 1:34:13]: With this forty five. [1:34:14, 1:34:15]: million dollar project. [1:34:15, 1:34:19]: And you know, sometimes things just align in the universe. [1:34:19, 1:34:22]: Who would have thought we when we started [1:34:22, 1:34:28]: And we uh uh worked on the project of aligning North and South Lee Street. [1:34:28, 1:34:30]: We had no idea that the [1:34:31, 1:34:33]: uh stem school was gonna come. We were [1:34:34, 1:34:39]: We were actively throwing our name in the hat to make sure they knew we were in interested in it. [1:34:39, 1:34:41]: But it certainly will. [1:34:41, 1:34:43]: work'cause if you look at the [1:34:43, 1:34:46]: Construction is going on on North and South Lee Street. [1:34:47, 1:34:50]: It's taken pretty much the majority of the park there. [1:34:50, 1:34:52]: And they're moving the [1:34:52, 1:35:09]: uh South Lee Street over. So where it actually s lines up with North Lee Street, there will be a four-way intersection that is stalled installed there. And there will be the new those black iron post signal holders that you see. [1:35:09, 1:35:12]: Like in the Cumberland Galleria area, no wooden poles. [1:35:13, 1:35:13]: And then [1:35:14, 1:35:19]: The crosswalks will have actually the brick pavers to go across. [1:35:19, 1:35:21]: Uh at that intersection. [1:35:21, 1:35:25]: And at the uh East Atlanta Road intersection. [1:35:25, 1:35:28]: And along with East Atlanta Road are garnering a new [1:35:28, 1:35:32]: Uh, turn lane that runs from North Enry Boulevard all the way back. [1:35:32, 1:35:35]: uh to the railroad tracks. Those two intersection will [1:35:36, 1:35:37]: Both have the brick pavers. [1:35:38, 1:35:38]: Crossings. [1:35:39, 1:35:41]: They'll have the black mask post on signals. [1:35:41, 1:35:44]: And ten foot walking pass connecting [1:35:44, 1:35:47]: Uh, the two campuses. So it's extremely exciting. [1:35:47, 1:35:49]: And we're not just talking. [1:35:49, 1:35:51]: The council just approved the funding. [1:35:52, 1:35:55]: Uh for the addition of the mass post arm signals. [1:35:56, 1:35:59]: The stamp papers and the side and everything in that project. [1:36:00, 1:36:01]: uh the final funding. [1:36:01, 1:36:03]: The sidewalk for all will extend [1:36:04, 1:36:06]: From South Lee Street now. [1:36:06, 1:36:08]: All the way down to Bryant Street. [1:36:08, 1:36:11]: Pass the amphitheater all the way down. [1:36:11, 1:36:14]: uh in a ten foot walking path connecting those [1:36:14, 1:36:16]: uh two trails so [1:36:16, 1:36:18]: That's extremely exciting. [1:36:18, 1:36:20]: That that's coming and that is uh [1:36:20, 1:36:24]: uh on our plate right now. So the times are very, very good. [1:36:24, 1:36:26]: Uh they uh we talked about [1:36:26, 1:36:27]: Uh [1:36:27, 1:36:31]: The the ride that Mr. Peterson and I had with uh Cherie. [1:36:31, 1:36:33]: Uh Michelle Bennett, right? [1:36:33, 1:36:34]: It's been it, right? [1:36:35, 1:36:35]: That's fair to [1:36:38, 1:36:39]: Mr. Peterson, are you there? [1:36:41, 1:36:41]: I believe it's Bennett. [1:36:42, 1:36:45]: Bennett, okay. Miss Bright, Sheree Bennett. It is Bennett. [1:36:45, 1:37:05]: Okay, right. That we wrote with down uh through downtown and the exciting she uh was so blown away by her tour of the amphitheater and that she saw it, she's excited. And the one thing that she said that really stuck with me is she said, you know, that not only do uh [1:37:05, 1:37:15]: uh we have a solid plan, but the officials understand where where we're trying to go and that we understand um [1:37:15, 1:37:24]: The process and how effective it is. When we were riding in the car, she said, You know, you guys will qualify for that$3,500 tax credit. [1:37:24, 1:37:43]: And man, I wanted to I I wanted to sc scream hallelujah. She gets it. She knows where we're trying to go with this. And uh her actual assistant should help us uh to move across the gold line on that particular project. So I'm extremely excited about that. And then I think Kira and uh Alan. [1:37:43, 1:37:45]: Are talking uh about the uh [1:37:46, 1:37:48]: The main the welcome center now. [1:37:48, 1:37:56]: Which is also awesome detail. And I look forward to talking about projects that we know are in the pipeline. [1:37:56, 1:38:11]: that will bring new restaurants and new residents into downtown that we can't discuss fully right now, but it's an exciting time to be in downtown Stockbridge. [1:38:11, 1:38:16]: And uh with that with that works. I would like to make I would like to say this as well. [1:38:17, 1:38:19]: We gotta get on to this picture where [1:38:20, 1:38:24]: When we have uh ribbon cuttings or we have sign unveilings like that. [1:38:25, 1:38:28]: We have to have representation from this board. All of us can't come. [1:38:29, 1:38:31]: But we gotta coordinate it between us that [1:38:31, 1:38:34]: When significant events happen like that. [1:38:34, 1:38:37]: Then we need to least have two to three people there. [1:38:37, 1:38:41]: representing the DDA because there are some there are business people there. [1:38:42, 1:38:45]: And we need to have those conversation. The development authority was there. [1:38:46, 1:38:48]: Uh you know, Josh Finn was there. [1:38:49, 1:38:50]: Uh the chamber was there. [1:38:50, 1:38:53]: When we didn't have any representation there. [1:38:53, 1:38:55]: We certainly need to make sure that we [1:38:56, 1:38:58]: Have somebody there. Main Street was there. [1:38:58, 1:39:10]: as well. So we certainly now and I know I think we we kinda like dropped the ball on a communication because I think Mr. Gardner said he wasn't notified and I was like, Wow, that was that was mind blowing. But [1:39:10, 1:39:13]: Uh we just need to make sure that we're represented because [1:39:13, 1:39:18]: Anything that comes in our area, we want to make sure that we show our faces. [1:39:18, 1:39:19]: And we show that we are [1:39:19, 1:39:23]: leaning forward for this type of development to come to the community. [1:39:24, 1:39:24]: So [1:39:25, 1:39:29]: I appreciate that and uh we look forward to the police department. [1:39:29, 1:39:40]: And uh I don't know if you guys had a chance to see that the new police building at 4545 uh is going on a complete renovation. We're spending four million dollars. [1:39:41, 1:39:42]: To renovate the building. [1:39:42, 1:39:45]: Uh, the old Henry County North Precinct. [1:39:45, 1:39:49]: It's gonna be a new uh completely refurbished facility. [1:39:49, 1:39:52]: Uh inside and then the outside will have [1:39:52, 1:39:55]: A new sign and new rendering. [1:39:55, 1:39:56]: Uh new um [1:39:57, 1:39:57]: Oh. [1:39:57, 1:39:59]: You know, uh curb appeal. [1:39:59, 1:40:03]: uh add it to it so it will add additional attraction. [1:40:03, 1:40:11]: to downtown because it will be now be a beautiful building itself, in addition to City Hall and the amphitheater, a new four million dollar [1:40:11, 1:40:19]: uh enhancement to that facility and the funding again has already been approved. So we don't need to say, well, is it gonna happen? [1:40:19, 1:40:26]: I I understand that the dil for according to Chief Tramer, the demolition is already underway inside. [1:40:26, 1:40:28]: And that they expect the project to be [1:40:28, 1:40:30]: Moving forward and uh [1:40:30, 1:40:34]: Hopefully finishing maybe about September, October area. [1:40:34, 1:40:35]: So thank you. [1:40:37, 1:40:40]: Thank you, Councilman. Any questions for Councilman Alexander? [1:40:43, 1:40:55]: All right, I appreciate your work on very exciting news on all the new development that's happening. Um all right, under new business, so there was um there was there the the [1:40:56, 1:41:16]: The let me let me back up a step. So um there was a uh a legal a title uh legal issue with the uh Sylvain deal that was um that was uh that you know that was transacted last April. And um in the process of straightening out that title deal uh or that [1:41:16, 1:41:28]: that title matter, it was discovered that um the the the the s city of stockbridge has referred to the downtown development authority it's its downtown development authority [1:41:30, 1:41:50]: Inconsistently in far as its legal name in certain legal documents over the many years. The recommendation and what I was going, what I was uh asked to bring to this council was a resolution to adopt or to um accept the um approve the resolution for an [1:41:50, 1:41:55]: An amended intergovernmental agreement with the DDA and the City of Stockbridge. [1:41:57, 1:42:17]: Utilizing the recommended name, which was used during that land deal. The name in the land deal was Downtown Development Authority of the City of Stockbridge. We have been commonly referring to ourselves as Stockbridge Downtown Development Authority, which is shorter. [1:42:17, 1:42:37]: And it it just, you know, we're talking about marketing, uh, the DDA. Um, it's a lot of words. And um, and I just in good conscience, I just didn't feel right asking for the board's approval to um really support this. [1:42:37, 1:42:57]: This elongated name. I will say I don't want to do anything to slow down straightening out this title issue with the uh land deal, but I would like to ask the city council consider straightening out the DDA's name. It's the city council's decision, ultimately, but I would like to ask you know, Councilman Alexander, I briefed you on this. [1:42:57, 1:43:13]: This prior to the meeting, and you concurred, so I fired your response right, that we uh pitch for the shorter name, which we have been commonly using since I've been with this DDA, uh, to just call it Stockbridge Downtown Development Authority, SDEA. [1:43:13, 1:43:31]: Let me let me let me let me step in there. Okay. What I concurred with, I thought I was concurring to just accepting what had been recommended to us, which is not going back and just using what was recommended by the legal counsel. I always try to fall in line with what [1:43:32, 1:43:35]: the legal counsel was I'm sorry if I did um [1:43:35, 1:43:37]: Mistake that, but [1:43:37, 1:43:46]: I don't want to back up. I don't always like to keep moving forward. If the recommendation of the attorney is to change the name consistent with [1:43:47, 1:44:05]: What what's already been done as the city has already made this move. As a city representative, I gotta stand behind the city's decision to issue that document in that particular name. Cause what all that's gonna do is gum up the process of moving along. [1:44:06, 1:44:09]: With the next business and go back to all of this. [1:44:09, 1:44:12]: This business owner has been waiting long enough already. [1:44:13, 1:44:14]: And we certainly want to delay. [1:44:15, 1:44:16]: The process with him. [1:44:17, 1:44:21]: Uh you know, it's really embarrassing that we don't have title to. [1:44:21, 1:44:23]: this business owner at this point at this point. [1:44:24, 1:44:32]: And he's trying to move forward with his project. Matter of fact, they stopped by the food drive to say hello today to see what I thought we had it resolved already. [1:44:33, 1:44:33]: So [1:44:34, 1:44:44]: Yeah, whatever we can do to move forward with this, I certainly wanna do that. I certainly don't want to throw another thing where we gotta go back to the city council and ask them to change the document. [1:44:44, 1:44:49]: Again, it just seems overkill. So what I thought I was concurring to was that [1:44:50, 1:44:51]: To agree with the [1:44:51, 1:44:55]: Uh the advice of the attorney. That's certainly what I would like to uh [1:44:55, 1:44:57]: The saying you know, the [1:44:58, 1:45:02]: City is the development author the the development authority. [1:45:03, 1:45:05]: Of the city of Stockbridge is not. [1:45:06, 1:45:09]: overcome some and then he made the recommendation of what? [1:45:09, 1:45:13]: The well that was shortened it in terms of an acronym, correct? [1:45:15, 1:45:35]: Right. Yeah. Yeah. The the the he he added that we, you know, he could recommend using a a brand a brand acronym of SDDA, which the letters SDDA only makes sense if it is an acronym for the Stockbridge Downtown Development Authority. [1:45:34, 1:45:41]: explicitly said that we may not use the words spelled out, which makes no sense and makes for [1:45:42, 1:46:02]: No, I don't, you know, I mean I'm just expressing my opinion here, but it it makes marketing the DDA very difficult because you can't actually say the name without all eight words or that acronym that doesn't align with the name. So, you know, we're kind of putting ourselves in this really kind of weird um. [1:46:02, 1:46:22]: uh position from a marketing perspective, but you know, I it it it it creates a challenge from a marketing perspective. I don't want to gum up the you know the the progress on this title thing but this you know I I certainly want to move forward with um you know a a um uh [1:46:22, 1:46:32]: you know, with something that's at least um, you know, legally clear. Um uh so you know, whatever whatever we need to do straighten out the names, then then let's do that. [1:46:32, 1:46:35]: Right. The advice of the attorney was to use [1:46:35, 1:46:41]: This name, which was the development authority of the city of Stockbridge. That's what that's again, that's what I thought I was a [1:46:42, 1:46:43]: concurring with so I [1:46:43, 1:46:45]: That's what I recommend and that [1:46:46, 1:46:49]: We don't slow things down. And then in the end, it's like [1:46:50, 1:47:04]: uh it is the development authority of the city of Stop Raven. That's what we've been doing. And then because the the city is probably referred to the development authority in that way in other documents. So [1:47:04, 1:47:07]: Let that can of worms lay. [1:47:09, 1:47:14]: All right. Um well I have um [1:47:15, 1:47:35]: I guess in order to move this forward and uh and and Vanessa, I might lean on you for just you know points of order to make sure that we do this correctly. I have the uh resolution documentation, which I have not shared with you know the other members of the board except for uh Councilman Alexander. Um, but you know, in the interest of [1:47:35, 1:47:55]: You know, bringing this to a conclusion, um, you know, I'm happy to entertain a motion to vote on the resolution, but I also want to give the opportunity for the board members to read the legal um um, you know, the the detail of the resolution that we're asking to uh [1:47:55, 1:48:09]: be voted on. Um, should I, I mean, I'm happy to share it with it now, but I don't know that you're able to feasibly read a three-page legal resolution and come to a conclusion. So can we vote on this and then make it? [1:48:09, 1:48:11]: contingent upon [1:48:12, 1:48:12]: Um [1:48:13, 1:48:23]: You know, if somebody doesn't like something that's in the resolution, they can retract or something. What what you know, how how do we move forward? Why why don't I why don't I make a recommendation that [1:48:23, 1:48:27]: We we don't have are we in a rush to go somewhere just [1:48:27, 1:48:28]: Put it on the screen. [1:48:28, 1:48:30]: Let's read through it. [1:48:31, 1:48:31]: That's it. [1:48:33, 1:48:45]: Let me bring up first the um this clarification. Is this resolution directly directed specifically towards that one? [1:48:46, 1:48:47]: Particular [1:48:47, 1:48:48]: Transaction. [1:48:49, 1:48:50]: Or [1:48:50, 1:48:53]: Is this going to change the name going forward? [1:48:56, 1:49:02]: It's both. So let me share my screen and um I think this should do it. [1:49:07, 1:49:09]: So are you able to see the Word document? [1:49:12, 1:49:32]: Yes, well yes. All right. So it's it's actually three documents. One is for the city uh the one our attorney prepared on behalf of the uh city council to adopt. Um two of them are for the uh DDA. So this is the first one. [1:49:32, 1:49:46]: This is the one really, it's a resolution of us the downtown authority to authorize a second intergovernmental agreement. So let me back up a step to describe what this one is. [1:49:48, 1:50:08]: To proceed with the land deal last year for Sauvain, we entered an intergovernmental agreement between the Downtown Development Authority and the city of Stockbridge. And it was a limited intergovernmental agreement that addressed our interaction between the two parties for that land deal. Because that intergovernmental [1:50:08, 1:50:28]: Agreement, you know, because there's an inconsistency in the name, this is basically in a second intergovernmental agreement to clarify the name. Um, so it's just really adding on to that to say we're now referring to it. So the, you know, references the first intergovernmental. [1:50:28, 1:50:48]: Agreement. And then it talks about the subject property. This, I believe, clarifies the uh the the title and as well, you know, as far as where the boundaries are. And the authority is found and determined and does hereby find and determine that the aforementioned aforementioned title issues. [1:50:48, 1:51:02]: jeopardize the project and therefore jeopardize the receipt of this of the city and the authority of the public benefit that they intended to receive the above described transactions. [1:51:05, 1:51:10]: They desire to enter into a second intergovernmental agreement to straighten this out. [1:51:11, 1:51:18]: And I'm obviously abbreviating here and I'm happy to share this with you via email if you prefer to read it in person. [1:51:24, 1:51:29]: Um, let's see, approves the, first of all, we would approve the second IGA. [1:51:33, 1:51:35]: Yeah, champ is on the fixations. [1:51:37, 1:51:45]: So because this is an IGA, if the DDA approves this tonight, then it would need to go over to the council for the council to approve it on the airplane. [1:51:46, 1:51:49]: Has the city's legal seen this document? [1:51:52, 1:51:57]: I believe so let me double check what was in the um [1:51:59, 1:52:02]: Let me see what was in the email thread. [1:52:02, 1:52:03]: I came with this. [1:52:24, 1:52:24]: Yeah. [1:52:28, 1:52:36]: Yes, to answer your question. So the our attorney said that attached to the documents that the city group is reviewing, meaning the city's attorneys. [1:52:43, 1:52:44]: Thank you. [1:52:45, 1:52:47]: Let me go ahead and forward these to everyone. [1:53:20, 1:53:30]: That should be on its way too. So let me move on to the other um the other document that's for us to um review. And that would be. [1:53:31, 1:53:35]: This is the actual second inter intergovernmental agreement. [1:53:39, 1:53:54]: This is the Stoppridge DDA and this is version three of the uh and if you you know I mean Dan was available on call if we wanted to bring him into this part of the um meeting and I'm happy to do that. [1:53:59, 1:54:14]: Yeah, it looks like these lawyers get paid by the word, man. But you know, really it's just saying plain and simple that we're correcting the error that was done last year. The language is consistent with what the first agreement was, is just changing that. [1:54:14, 1:54:17]: subject of whether boundary survey was [1:54:17, 1:54:20]: And it's good that we got to this because [1:54:20, 1:54:25]: Now uh those adjoining properties we should have the same issue. [1:54:25, 1:54:29]: And we should have a survey of all of downtown uh from Falcon design. [1:54:29, 1:54:32]: Uh at this point, not just that property. [1:54:35, 1:54:39]: Um, do you wanna see if Mr. uh Sm McQuery is available to jump in on a call? [1:54:40, 1:54:51]: I think he would do a much better he or Danny will do a much better job at explaining this for us than than I'm than I'm obviously doing. So uh if you'll bear with me, let me see if he's available. [1:55:31, 1:55:35]: Is anybody unclear about what this document is doing? [1:55:41, 1:55:46]: So my understanding, uh councilman, is basically this is doing two two two things. This is [1:55:47, 1:55:51]: This is clarifying the boundary the Sylvain property boundary. [1:55:51, 1:55:51]: Mm-hmm. [1:55:52, 1:55:55]: And secondly, it's clarifying that the name of our [1:55:56, 1:55:58]: Our downtown development authority [1:55:58, 1:56:02]: is the downtown development authority of the city of Stockbridge. [1:56:02, 1:56:03]: Deposit the only two. [1:56:04, 1:56:05]: Um [1:56:05, 1:56:06]: Changes, if you will. [1:56:07, 1:56:11]: Yeah, and I and I think that's that really sums it up right there. And I think [1:56:12, 1:56:16]: Honestly, I think it would be a good idea to change the name because what that does to us. [1:56:17, 1:56:27]: Is it gives us a new brand. We're going with new social media, new website. It sh it differentiates the actions of the previous DDA, which [1:56:27, 1:56:32]: Uh we don't with six million dollars and all of that. Well we're starting fresh in a new [1:56:32, 1:56:36]: With uh even changing the name of the organization because [1:56:37, 1:56:41]: of some things that have happened in the past. I I think it'd be a good idea. [1:56:41, 1:56:45]: We c to d disassociate this DDA from the previous DDA. [1:56:54, 1:56:58]: So I certainly don't want anybody thinking we gave away six million dollars in property. [1:56:59, 1:57:00]: Fine. [1:57:00, 1:57:01]: Right. [1:57:01, 1:57:21]: I I wasn't able to reach the uh Dan on moments notice like this, but I my understanding is the same as Bob that that you described, which which this is doing two things. It's clarifying clarifying clarifying the title for, you know, the property that was part of the land deal last year. [1:57:21, 1:57:28]: And it clarifies the name of the DDA. And so um [1:57:30, 1:57:50]: Maybe, maybe, you know, in in the interest of, you know, I I'll express my own opinion. I don't like the name. It's a bit of a marketing nightmare. Um, to try to, but you know, maybe we can get creative and somehow work around that. But um in the interest of moving this forward, then maybe what we'll [1:57:50, 1:58:06]: do um is you know if i may recommend a motion that we um accept the resolutions as presented by our attorney with the understanding that it essentially clarifies two points. [1:58:06, 1:58:26]: the the title for the property uh for the uh sylvain deal last year and it clarifies the name of the DDA. And if there's more to this than um is involved in here then um you know I guess I wouldn't I would want to [1:58:26, 1:58:32]: limit my my approval or the motion to approve on those two points. [1:58:33, 1:58:38]: I have a question, Chair. Yes, please go ahead. This name change. [1:58:40, 1:58:46]: Taking the DDA's name to where it was established by the General Assembly. [1:58:46, 1:58:48]: Because if not all those documents. [1:58:49, 1:58:54]: will say something different. I'm I'm just I haven't seen this, so I don't know. [1:58:54, 1:59:02]: Yeah, it's it's a great question. And let me show you another document that was shared with me. Uh the attorney prepared a worksheet. [1:59:02, 1:59:22]: Showing, I'm have it here. These are all the different versions of the DDA name that have been used in legal filings over the last many years. So from 1983, it was constituted as the downtown development authority of the [1:59:22, 1:59:42]: City of Stockbridge. Okay. It was repealed and there's some question on what name was used for that. It was reactivated as Downtown Development Authority of Stockbridge, not of the city. There was a legal documentation. [1:59:42, 2:00:02]: appointing members to the Stockbridge Downtown Development Authority, which is the brief name that from a marketing perspective I personally prefer. And then in um there were other, there was another document of appointed members, appointing members, and it used [2:00:02, 2:00:22]: The name that's being recommended now that I believe was also used in the Silvane deal. Yeah, but let listen that 2013 time is the time they gave away the six million dollars. That's what I'm saying. We need to change the name. You just said it exactly what I said. In 2013, that's when they gave away that's what that's. [2:00:22, 2:00:38]: That group gave away$6 million in city property. We, that's why I think it's a good idea to change the name because again, it might that that might have been the optimum uh thing, but to be disassociated from that group. [2:00:39, 2:00:42]: is a good thing. I certainly don't want to be associated with them. [2:00:42, 2:00:43]: Because [2:00:43, 2:00:50]: They literally put the city in lit lit litigation for years. And then when the city got it back. [2:00:50, 2:01:02]: Uh uh they changed it. Basically the name was looks like the name was reverbed back to what it what it was. But that twenty thirteen name is associated with the group that [2:01:02, 2:01:07]: gave away six million dollars on this downtown development. Be cognizant of that the citizens know. [2:01:08, 2:01:09]: Okay, share. [2:01:10, 2:01:11]: Yes. [2:01:11, 2:01:13]: Okay, so it looks like and it [2:01:13, 2:01:15]: I believe you're correct, Councilman Alexander. [2:01:16, 2:01:25]: If you look at 1983 as when it was activated, this downtown development authority of the city of Stockbridge, that's what you're talking about reverting to now, correct? [2:01:25, 2:01:33]: Where those members where all of those members were appointed, that's by resolution. That's easily remedied. [2:01:33, 2:01:36]: You can repeal the resolution and and redo it. [2:01:36, 2:01:43]: That's easily riveted, but the activation is going back to the name that it was currently activated under. So [2:01:44, 2:01:45]: I think that's your answer. [2:01:46, 2:01:52]: So to your point, councilman, it's actually going back to the original name. Activation. [2:01:53, 2:02:13]: That's what's being recommended. And disassociating ourselves from twenty thirteen. Let me say that again. When you talk to anybody in stock bridge, they don't learn nothing about that six million dollars. So that's that's a big deal. Twenty thirteen is when the D DA was, I guess, activated again. Great activated. But [2:02:13, 2:02:16]: That that's the group. That's the group, but that's the group. [2:02:17, 2:02:26]: But they wasn't much. The establishment at the General Assembly was nineteen eighty-three. That's that's where it was established. It just went um [2:02:26, 2:02:36]: It it it was just uh and not operating in all those other years. But the establishment by the General Assembly is what happened in nineteen eighty three. [2:02:38, 2:02:42]: And that was the downtown development authority of the city of Stockbridge. Right. [2:02:43, 2:02:44]: Uh [2:02:45, 2:02:52]: I mean I I I agree with Roger. I mean I I I I would prefer Stockbridge Downtown Development Authority just because it's shorter. [2:02:52, 2:02:53]: Бат [2:02:53, 2:02:55]: To to Elton's point. [2:02:55, 2:03:01]: You know, uh if people say, Well, well, you know that Stockbridge downtown development already back in twenty thirty I said, that ain't [2:03:01, 2:03:02]: Very nice. [2:03:03, 2:03:05]: You know, that's not who we are. [2:03:06, 2:03:06]: Um [2:03:07, 2:03:12]: And so I can I can certainly live with the downtown development authority of the city of Stockbridge. [2:03:12, 2:03:13]: Um [2:03:15, 2:03:17]: If it moves things forward. [2:03:21, 2:03:22]: All right. [2:03:26, 2:03:28]: Any other thoughts or questions? [2:03:29, 2:03:43]: No, um based on that, I certainly couldn't vote for that twenty thirteen name. As being a city representative, I couldn't vote for the twenty thirteen name, knowing what happened. And I know the backlash from the council would be like, why'd you vote for that? You know. [2:03:43, 2:03:44]: What's going on? So [2:03:45, 2:03:50]: I'm prepared to move forward with the downtown development authority of the city of Stockbridge. [2:03:50, 2:03:52]: Based on the nineteen eighty three [2:03:52, 2:03:53]: Um [2:03:54, 2:03:54]: Oh. [2:03:55, 2:03:55]: Well [2:03:55, 2:04:00]: The um legislation pass legislation pass an establishment. [2:04:01, 2:04:03]: uh from the city uh and the legislature. [2:04:04, 2:04:08]: That that would be most appropriate. And I think that's exactly why this attorney [2:04:08, 2:04:12]: Established that he wanted us to be legally sound and to go back to [2:04:12, 2:04:15]: where the base base baseline was. [2:04:16, 2:04:36]: All right, so Stockbridge resolution. So let me move back to Stockbridge resolution. So I think this is the this is the one that applies to us. The others I think were um uh meant for the uh one is for the city council. [2:04:36, 2:04:45]: Um so I let me just got an email. Let me check to see if it might be a tiny or something. [2:04:45, 2:04:46]: Oh, sorry. [2:04:50, 2:04:51]: All right. [2:04:54, 2:05:01]: Okay, so um Mr. Sears has I believe Mr. Sears, are you with us still? [2:05:04, 2:05:06]: Oh yes, yes, you are. [2:05:09, 2:05:15]: I see he's on the meeting, but I don't see him and I and he I got an email from saying that he has to leave. [2:05:16, 2:05:18]: So oh here you are. [2:05:19, 2:05:37]: Mr. Sears, we're not hearing you. Um, so we um I guess I'd like to go ahead and if you know at least put this on the table. So I'd I guess I'd like to make a motion to approve the resolution. Thank you, Mr. Sears. I'm I'm here. My computer doing like yours is slowing down, so that's why. [2:05:37, 2:05:46]: Oh, very good. That's fine. I got your email and I wasn't sure if that meant that you were leaving, but we'll go ahead and move forward. I wanna I wanna leave without saying goodbye. [2:05:46, 2:05:54]: All right, very good. Um, so I'll go ahead and and and put a motion or you know offer a motion that to accept this resolution. [2:05:56, 2:06:08]: in that with the understanding that it clarifies two points, the title to the property uh for the land deal last year, as well as clarifying the name for this downtown development authority. [2:06:10, 2:06:10]: Second question. [2:06:11, 2:06:15]: All right, I think I heard a second from Mr. Swiger. Thank you. [2:06:16, 2:06:16]: All right. [2:06:20, 2:06:21]: Any further discussion? [2:06:24, 2:06:35]: All right, so then we'll go ahead and put it for votes. All those in favor, go ahead and raise your hand. I see your hand, uh Mr. Swigert. I see your hand. Okay, so the motion passes. Thank you. [2:06:38, 2:06:40]: All right. [2:06:40, 2:07:00]: That was on the legal name, so thank you. I'll move on to the next item, which is all business. Um, I don't have much to share there. Um, we have engaged the uh Georgia Tech for the um uh market study. Um the and uh so that's in motion. I um uh Alan, I I'm not sure if you [2:07:00, 2:07:03]: Do you have any further update on that? Anyone share? [2:07:03, 2:07:08]: No, they're they're working on it. They've received everything. We've provided them with everything that they asked for. [2:07:08, 2:07:12]: It's in motion. We should receive uh an update next week. [2:07:12, 2:07:13]: I believe you [2:07:13, 2:07:21]: Went on took him on a tour as well, right? Oh yeah. I did. Yeah, yeah. We we took a tour um just so he could [2:07:22, 2:07:22]: Um [2:07:23, 2:07:26]: You know, get that first hand view of [2:07:26, 2:07:32]: the downtown development district, as well as the city, I took them all around so we could see exactly what we're trying to do. [2:07:32, 2:07:34]: That way he could relate. [2:07:35, 2:07:37]: Um, everything that we sent him. [2:07:37, 2:07:39]: Which was a lot of information. [2:07:39, 2:07:43]: So um yeah, he he's had a tour and and they're working. [2:07:43, 2:07:44]: Right. [2:07:44, 2:07:47]: Thank you. Any questions for Alan? [2:07:48, 2:08:08]: All right. And next item is the downtown strategic work plan. I don't have much to offer there. We did um the you know we uh a couple of our internal meetings had had to be canceled um due to other uh scheduling conflicts. Um so not much to report out on that item. Uh the next uh [2:08:08, 2:08:28]: The last final item is the uh committee to draft an intergovernmental agreement with the IJ. And then not to cause any confusion about the discussion we just had, but um the DDA has uh developed a draft for a standing intergovernmental agreement. That would be just the standing uh, you know. [2:08:28, 2:08:45]: rules of the road, if you will, between the DDA and the city of Stockbridge. We've drafted that, we've handed it over to the city and we're waiting for their review and approval. So um either Alan or Councilman, any any any feedback on what's been submitted as a draft? [2:08:48, 2:09:07]: Okay. I'm seeing no I'll just wait till I don't think I think our attorney would need to finish the review and then I would be able to get back to you. Before that, I wouldn't want to make a comment. All right, very good. Thank you. And that's the final item on the agenda. Um I'll open it up for any general comments or questions. [2:09:11, 2:09:15]: All right. Uh well with that to entertain a motion to adjourn. [2:09:17, 2:09:18]: Second the motion. [2:09:19, 2:09:30]: All right, thank you. And did you uh El Elton, I saw or councilman, I saw you say yes, all right. Uh any further discussion? [2:09:30, 2:09:41]: All right. Those in favor to adjourn, please raise your hand. Very good. All right, that's unanimous. Thank you everyone. I know it was a longer meeting than usual, but I appreciate everyone's work on this. Have a great evening. [2:09:42, 2:09:43]: Thank you too.

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[0:03:37, 0:03:39]: Just one second, Mayor. Okay, thank you. [0:04:10, 0:04:10]: Yeah. [0:05:01, 0:05:02]: Are you good to go now, Miss Holliday? [0:05:09, 0:05:14]: We had a request for an email change. So um IT is sending that out right now. [0:05:14, 0:05:17]: If you give us just a couple of seconds, please. Okay. [0:05:44, 0:05:47]: Continue to be patient, folks. We'll get started in just a second here. [0:06:19, 0:06:20]: [388.6, 404.5]: It's been sent mayor and you do have a quantum. Okay. Thanks a lot. I appreciate it. Thank you. All right, late. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, okay. Yeah, I have 602. I'm gonna call our council meeting for April 11th, 2020 to order and I will give the invocation. So please buy ahead. [0:06:45, 0:06:52]: Lord, thank you for bringing this together once again to do the city's business as the citizens have elected us to do. Allow us to have outstanding dialogue. [0:06:53, 0:06:58]: continue to move the city forward, continue to make good logical decisions. Be us always Lord in your name. [0:06:58, 0:06:59]: Amen. [0:06:59, 0:07:00]: Amen. [0:07:01, 0:07:02]: I need a um [0:07:04, 0:07:07]: Pledge of allegiance, please. Let's keep please stand for a pledge of allegiance. [0:07:10, 0:07:23]: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, to the Republic for which it stays one nature, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice small. [0:07:25, 0:07:28]: Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Madam Kirk, we'll call, please. [0:07:35, 0:07:36]: Mayor Ford. Present. [0:07:36, 0:07:38]: Mayor Pro Tem Thomas. [0:07:38, 0:07:39]: Present. [0:07:39, 0:07:41]: Councilman Alexander. [0:07:41, 0:07:42]: Present. [0:07:42, 0:07:43]: Councilwoman Barber. [0:07:43, 0:07:44]: Present. [0:07:44, 0:07:45]: Councilman Blount. [0:07:46, 0:07:46]: President [0:07:46, 0:07:47]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:07:50, 0:08:03]: the breaker reflect councilwoman Gantt is not in attendance mayor forward do you have a forum thank you madam clerk i appreciate that um council i need adoption of the agenda i believe there's going to be amendment to the agenda which i was that clear [0:08:04, 0:08:10]: Yes, sir. Mayor I'd like to um amend the agenda to add a resolution. [0:08:10, 0:08:13]: Allowing the council to return to in person meetings. [0:08:14, 0:08:16]: Uh obviously that is contingent upon. [0:08:16, 0:08:21]: Uh the changes and uh the science, and uh we shall continue to follow that. [0:08:21, 0:08:24]: But this gives us the the ability to be able to meet. [0:08:24, 0:08:26]: uh in person going forward. [0:08:27, 0:08:27]: Is there a second? [0:08:28, 0:08:31]: Ms. Barber seconded that motion. All in favor, please indicate. [0:08:33, 0:08:38]: Okay. Okay. As as unanimous in that decision. We'll make that item number thirteen a new business. Okay. [0:08:40, 0:09:00]: And uh we'll have our attorneys to start off that discussion when we get to that point. Um a motion to adopt the minutes uh that we have present. Then those are uh minutes for the four February 14th council meeting and also the February 22nd um council work session. I need a motion to adopt those minutes, please. [0:09:00, 0:09:00]: [541.8, 546.2]: We need to adopt the full agenda. Right. If you would adopt the agenda with the amendment. [0:09:07, 0:09:08]: That's right. [0:09:08, 0:09:15]: Keep it straight. Okay. You're right. I need a motion to adopt the overall agenda, please. So move. Is there a second? [0:09:16, 0:09:20]: Miss Barber, your hand is again second. Okay, she seconded that. All favor, please indicate. [0:09:21, 0:09:25]: All right, unanimous decision. All right. So keep me honest, right? Okay, now. [0:09:26, 0:09:35]: In reference to the adoption of the minutes, I've already mentioned that council work, a council meeting on February 14th and council work session on February 22nd. Please, a motion. [0:09:35, 0:09:36]: So [0:09:36, 0:09:38]: Okay, Mr. Alexander, sir second. [0:09:40, 0:09:41]: Is there a second? [0:09:43, 0:09:49]: In reference to the minutes, is there a second to approve the minutes? Ms. Barber, saw your hand again. Okay. All in favor, please indicate. [0:09:50, 0:09:52]: Outstanding is announced decision on that point. [0:09:53, 0:09:56]: All right, uh Miss Holiday, do we have any public comments at all? [0:09:57, 0:10:01]: Mayor Ford, we do have two public comments tonight. [0:10:02, 0:10:05]: First comment is from Mr. Burns with Senior Greenland Drive. [0:10:06, 0:10:07]: McDonald, Georgia. [0:10:08, 0:10:17]: The city of Stockbridge has jammed over thirty-two hundred people in the state-of-the-art Stockbridge amphitheater since September 2021, but yet continues to hold city. [0:10:17, 0:10:26]: Of Stockbridge, Georgia City Council meetings virtually. The entire government of Henry County and neighboring counties are open to the public. [0:10:26, 0:10:43]: Why is the mayor and city council still denying the public access to these meetings in person? There is absolutely no excuse to continue to hold these meetings virtually when the administration, mayor, and council is massless away from city hall. Open up these meetings to the public in person, please. [0:10:45, 0:11:00]: Second comment, Mayor. All right, go ahead. Well obviously, obviously that particular issue we're going to address later on this evening. Okay. All right. Good. Yes, sir. Next comment. Next comment is from Sonny Randanza, Brant Street, Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:11:01, 0:11:06]: The noise mitigation issue should be on the agenda, but it is still not. [0:11:07, 0:11:17]: Please keep your promises. It's disrespectful to continually put this problem off. It is damaging people's health, mine in particular. We still have no schedule. [0:11:17, 0:11:21]: for sound checks and no attempt to limit the time for sound checks. [0:11:21, 0:11:28]: Which lasts way longer than the actual concerts. We deserve to at least know when we will be blasted out. [0:11:29, 0:11:30]: In our homes. [0:11:31, 0:11:33]: The Thursday before the party. [0:11:33, 0:11:33]: Concert. [0:11:34, 0:11:36]: We had a two hour [0:11:36, 0:11:39]: Sound check. The next day, Friday, [0:11:39, 0:11:43]: I was working from home and the sound check started at twelve fifty seven. [0:11:43, 0:11:47]: You can imagine how difficult it is to carry on a conversation with a customer. [0:11:48, 0:11:55]: Everything you guys do lately is harmful to taxpayers and constituents. Even City Hall closed at 3 p.m. that day. [0:11:56, 0:12:16]: To deal with the show, please can someone address this problem tonight? We have waited long enough for the city to have inquiries into noise abatement, especially when it should have been addressed before construction. For more than three years, I have asked for mitigation for this neighborhood. Also, please address sunshine loss and the fact that the city of Stockbridge Council [0:12:16, 0:12:26]: meetings are still not being held in public. We see officials all over town in public. No mask. How long will we be banned from public participation? Thanks. [0:12:26, 0:12:28]: Thank you for that. And um [0:12:28, 0:12:48]: Mr. Gardner, you still have the lead, sir, in reference to this mitigation and um that's a collective issue that we have to deal with. So we'll continue to work through the process and try to get see what we can do to get this thing resolved. Appreciate your assistance, sir. Thank you very much. Mayor. Yes, ma'am. For the record, Councilwoman Gantt has joined the meeting. Fantastic. Okay, that's a compliment. All right. Yeah, um [0:12:48, 0:12:49]: Mr. Gordon. [0:12:49, 0:12:54]: Yes, ma'am. And um I've tasked the uh engineers and architects with [0:12:54, 0:12:58]: coming up with three options on the sound mitigation. [0:12:58, 0:13:02]: So as soon as they completed that work, we'll present that to May and Council. [0:13:02, 0:13:05]: Along with the cost associated to implement it. [0:13:06, 0:13:07]: Thanks, sir. Appreciate that. [0:13:07, 0:13:08]: You're welcome. [0:13:08, 0:13:15]: Okay, ceremonial. We have a couple of proclamations this evening and Robin Jones. I'm glad to see you join us. [0:13:16, 0:13:22]: This is a proclamation from the councils, uh, Mary City Council on um child abuse prevention month, which is April. [0:13:23, 0:13:28]: Whereas children are critical to Georgia's future success, prosperity, and quality of life. [0:13:28, 0:13:33]: While children are our most valuable resource, they are also our most vulnerable. [0:13:34, 0:13:41]: Children have a right to be safe and an opportunity to thrive, learn, and grow in an environment that fosters healthy development. [0:13:43, 0:13:52]: And whereas child abuse and neglect can be prevented by supporting and strengthening Georgia's families, thus preventing a far-reaching effect of maltreatment. [0:13:52, 0:13:59]: and providing the opportunity for children to develop healthy, trusting family bonds and consequently building the foundation of communities. [0:14:00, 0:14:12]: And whereas effectively intervening in the lives of children threatened by abuse is a shared responsibility. And Georgia citizens must come together so that the voices of our children are heard by all. [0:14:13, 0:14:17]: We all must ensure that our communities are extending helpful hands. [0:14:17, 0:14:35]: to children and families in need, whereas effective child abuse prevention strategies succeed because of partnerships created among citizens, human resource agencies, schools, faith communities, healthcare providers, civic organizations, law enforcement agencies, and the business community. [0:14:36, 0:14:56]: Whereas by providing a safe and nurturing environment for our children, free of violence, abuse, and neglect, we can ensure that Georgia's children will grow to their full potential as the next generation of leaders, helping to secure the future of this state and nation. Now, therefore, I, Mayor Anthony S. Ford, by virtue of authority vested in me as a mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:14:56, 0:14:56]: Mm-hmm. [0:14:57, 0:15:13]: And on behalf of City Council members Elton Alexander, Yolanda Barber, John Blount, Nakesa Gantt and Afonso Thomas, do hereby proclaim April 2022 as Child Abuse Prevention Month in Georgia and urge families and communities to become involved in protecting Georgia's children. [0:15:14, 0:15:30]: In witness whereof I have here hereunto set my hand on the 11th day of April 2022 and have caused the official seal of the great city of Stockbridge to be affixed here too. And I signed the proclamation along with uh Vanessa Holliday, our clerk. Congratulations. Thank you, Robin, for being here. [0:15:31, 0:15:34]: Robin, the the floor is yours, ma'am, for any comments that you may have. [0:15:35, 0:15:48]: Thank you so much, Mayor Ford. We greatly appreciate it. And you've already given me the beautifully framed proclamation. We do appreciate that. And we just appreciate the city of Stockbridge and your commitment to the children of Henry County. [0:15:48, 0:16:07]: And also for your continued support year after year for prevent child abuse, Henry. Thank you so much. Well, thank you for being here. And you and you're more than welcome to stay as long as you like for the meeting tonight. It's up clear clearly up to you. Okay. I appreciate it. I have a board meeting at 6 30 though, but thank you so much. You're welcome. Take care of yourself. You too. Okay. [0:16:09, 0:16:10]: Dr. Paul Brown, welcome sir. [0:16:13, 0:16:19]: Mayor Ford, thank you so much for allowing me to be a part of the ceremony this evening. No problem. No problem, sir. I have a proclamation for you as well. [0:16:19, 0:16:26]: This is for the National Medical Laboratory Professionals Week, which is April 24th to 30th of 2022. [0:16:27, 0:16:39]: Whereas Medical Laboratory Professionals Week, MLPW, provides the profession with a unique opportunity to increase public understanding of and appreciation for the clinical laboratory personnel. [0:16:40, 0:16:41]: And whereas [0:16:41, 0:16:54]: MLPW, which takes place the last full week of April each year, and is coordinated by the collaborative committee with representatives from seven uh 17 national clinical laboratory organizations, including [0:16:54, 0:17:07]: AMT, American Medical Technologists, AC, excuse me, ASCLS, American Society for Clinical Laboratory Science, and ASM, the American Society on Microbiology. [0:17:07, 0:17:27]: And whereas there's approximately 300,000 practitioners of the clinical laboratory science in the United States, and whereas lab week is the annual celebration of the medical laboratory professionals and pathologists who play a vital role in healthcare and patient advocacy. Now, therefore, I, Anthony S. Ford, mayor of City of Stockbridge, Georgia, along with council members Elton Alexander. [0:17:27, 0:17:42]: Alana Barber John Blount Lakeisha Gantt and Afonso Thomas do hereby proclaim the week of April 20 to 2024 to 30, 2022, as National Medical Library Professional Week in the great city of Stockbridge, Georgia, and recognize and celebrate. [0:17:43, 0:17:50]: the term teams of the lab at Piemont Henry Hospital, who are the impact behind diagnostic medicine. [0:17:50, 0:18:06]: Thank you for all that you do, a witness whereof I have hereunto sent my hand and the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the eleventh day of April, the year of our Lord 2022. And I sign this proclamation along with our clerk Vanessa Holiday. Congratulations, sir. Mr. Brown. [0:18:08, 0:18:13]: Thank you, Chair. We appreciate it. And on behalf of the Clinical Lab Science Group. [0:18:13, 0:18:20]: And especially the group at Pete Mount Henry Hospital. Uh we do ac actually recognize that last week in April internationally. [0:18:20, 0:18:22]: Other places as well. So uh [0:18:23, 0:18:26]: I'm not sure whether Leticia Harris is on today, but she's a manager there and [0:18:27, 0:18:30]: Our thanks to you and the council for providing [0:18:30, 0:18:33]: of this proclamation on their behalf. Thank you so very much. [0:18:34, 0:18:42]: You're welcome, sir. And I'll make a point to coordinate in reference to getting an actual framed proclamation to you, sir, and your staff. Okay. I got to work that out with you. All right. [0:18:43, 0:18:48]: Thank you very much, sir. Appreciate it. No problem. Appreciate it. Take care of yourself, sir. You can stay as long as you like, by the way, as well. So clear it up to you. [0:18:49, 0:18:51]: Okay. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Uh huh. [0:18:52, 0:19:07]: We'll move right on right on. We have a presentation. The Hemedy County Chamber of Commerce Convention and Visitors Bureau annual hotel motel tax report for the city of Stockbridge for FY21, presented by Laura Lucre. And I see we also have Mr. Joe Henning online as well. [0:19:08, 0:19:09]: Okay. [0:19:10, 0:19:11]: Laura's all yours. [0:19:12, 0:19:13]: Thank you, Mayor. [0:19:16, 0:19:18]: Can y'all see the presentation? [0:19:18, 0:19:19]: Yes, we do. [0:19:19, 0:19:20]: Okay. [0:19:20, 0:19:40]: So as Mayor said, I am Laura Lucer and I am the director of tourism for Visit Henry County, Georgia, or as we call ourselves a destination marketing organization, which means that we market Henry County as a destination for tourists to visit, eat, stay. [0:19:40, 0:19:55]: meet, shop, or play. And our mission is to inspire tourism by engaging our partners and the community in order to build a sense of hospitality for Henry County visitors and to stimulate economic development. [0:19:56, 0:20:16]: And we um I think it's important to note that the law states that our role is promoting tourism's conventions and trade shows and to do so by planning, conducting, or participating in programs of information and publicity that are designed to attract or advertise tourism conventions or trade shows. So again. [0:20:16, 0:20:26]: Again, it's all about the advertising and the publicity. It's not um about um the building of the actual things. I like to I saw I saw this um [0:20:27, 0:20:46]: example and I really liked it. I feel like it's really clear picture of what a d DMO or a destination marketing organization does. Um that we are museum curators. We don't create the art or select the types of art that goes into the museum necessarily, but we are charged with looking at what we have. [0:20:47, 0:20:59]: and figuring out how those patrons, those visitors will best respond to it and how to package it, how to market it to get them to come and to visit our museum. And so we're really facilitators and collaborators. [0:21:00, 0:21:20]: And just um as we talk about CVBs, there's a lot of I think um confusion maybe about what um destination marketing organizations or CVBs do. We are in fact a private nonprofit that by law must be a 501c6, and we are completely supported by what's called the hotel motel. [0:21:20, 0:21:23]: Tax. You'll see it referred to later as the HMT. [0:21:23, 0:21:43]: And we, while we are a division of the chamber, we are geographic and industry specific rather than membership-based as the chamber is. And we also do have our own board of directors and financials. And we promote the cities of Hampton, Stockbridge, Locust Grove, and then the unincorporated parts of Henry County. [0:21:43, 0:22:03]: And so while we receive this hotel motel tax, it is not a tax that's paid by locals. It's not supported by local tax. It is by people who visit and stay in hotels. And we don't receive any funding from any source, other no government sources, just that hotel motel tax. And like I said, we're not, we are not a membership. [0:22:03, 0:22:23]: Organization. But and while we do promote for businesses to get to know each other, we feel like there's a lot of real good benefits from our partners knowing each other. We are not primarily a business promotion or business networking organization. So that's just some of the ways in which we differ. Again, we're our entire efforts are focused outward. [0:22:24, 0:22:32]: And so we promote um restaurants, attractions, accommodations, caterers, special event venues, special event um [0:22:32, 0:22:52]: Special events themselves, film sites, anything that brings tourists to the area. And these types of tourists include leisure travelers, youth sports travelers, brides, business travelers, wedding re weddings, family reunions, corporate meetings, day trippers, production companies. But what you'll notice on the list that's not included is not residents. We do not promote. [0:22:52, 0:23:12]: To residents. So if we are doing our jobs well, you will probably not see the majority of the ads that we're doing because we are not targeting them inside Henry County. Our ads are all targeted outside Henry County. Exceptions might be if you, you know, maybe subscribe to a local magazine or a travel magazine, pick up the state travel guide, or maybe if you're seeing [0:23:12, 0:23:19]: one of our billboards. Those are instances, I guess, in which residents may see billboards or see some of our ads. [0:23:20, 0:23:33]: Now, um, so this is a tax that is paid by the by the visitor. Um, this is kind of how it functions. You'll see a visitor will come to stay at a hotel, they'll book a hotel, and when they check in, they pay for the room rate. [0:23:34, 0:23:42]: The state and local taxes, they pay the occupancy tax or the hotel motel tax, and then the$5 state transportation fee. And they pay this per night. [0:23:42, 0:24:02]: So the hotel collects all of this. They collect all of their occupancy tax. And at the end of the month, they then send that month's hotel motel tax to the city or the county in which they reside. So if it's in Stockbridge, then they would send the money directly to Stockbridge. From that point, the stock [0:24:02, 0:24:09]: City of Stockbridge then keeps um either sixty or forty percent, or excuse me, sixty or um roughly [0:24:10, 0:24:14]: Um depending on the the percentage, whether it's five percent or eight percent, um, they keep [0:24:14, 0:24:16]: The larger share and then send [0:24:17, 0:24:28]: um either forty or forty-three point seven five percent um of the tax on. So in Stockbridge's case, because um the city of Stockbridge collects at eight percent, then they um [0:24:28, 0:24:34]: Send the CVB forty three point seven five percent of the hotel motel tax that is collected. [0:24:35, 0:24:55]: Um, while as they retain they retain the rest of it, and you retain the rest of it. Um, this also includes short-term rentals, which are Airbnbs and VRBOs. As of July 2021, um, a law went into effect that did require that Airbnb and VRBO collect hotel motel tax just like a hotel does, and they have to [0:24:55, 0:25:05]: to remit it to the cities and the county just like a hotel would do. And then that money is governed under the same law. So basically they just took the existing hotel motel tax law and they um [0:25:05, 0:25:17]: they change the definition of an innkeeper to include those short-term rentals. So that money is then um must be utilized in the same ways and under the same jurisdiction and laws in which the regular hotel motel tax is. [0:25:18, 0:25:38]: Now here's a breakdown of the funding. If it's 5%, just um so you'll see that if you collect under 5%, which the county and the city of Hampton do, then 60% of that hotel motel tax is considered non-restricted. And what that means is that the this money can be used for any legal general fund purpose. It can be [0:25:38, 0:25:58]: used to pay salaries, pay roads, you name it, you can do it as long as it's legal. 40% then is considered restricted. This means that it is required by law to be provided to a private nonprofit set up for the promotion of tourism and it can only be used for what's called TCT or tourism conventions and trade shows. [0:25:58, 0:26:03]: from that earlier slide that we saw. That means that promotion of tourism conventions and trade shows. [0:26:03, 0:26:08]: Now if you collected eight percent, which is what Stockbridge does, then you'll see here's the breakdown. [0:26:09, 0:26:10]: Is there a question? [0:26:11, 0:26:31]: No, go right ahead, please. Okay, sorry. Um, so if um if you're collecting at 8%, then you'll see that 37 and a half percent are considered non-restricted. This um means that again, those monies can be used for any legal fund purpose. And then 18.75% is considered restricted, but it still stays with the city. [0:26:31, 0:26:51]: But instead of general operating expenses, this money is restricted in what is called tourism product development or TPD money. It can only be used for specific tourism development purposes, such as your amphitheater or enhancements to the conference center, those kinds of things, anything that enhances or creates a visitor experience. [0:26:52, 0:27:11]: And then 43 and a half, 43.75% is then um considered restricted for tourism conventions and trade shows promotion, and then has to go to that designated nonprofit set up for that purpose. So that's how it breaks down for the city of Stockbridge. And to use some real numbers, um, City of Stockbridge, um [0:27:12, 0:27:22]: The CVB received about$210,000 from the city of Stockbridge for 2021. And so extrapolating that number out, we can um do some rough math that says that. [0:27:22, 0:27:39]: In 2021, the city of Stockbridge had about$180,000 of that non-restricted money that's considered, you know, any legal purpose, and then about$90,000 that was considered restricted for tourism product development for purposes, whereas the Miss EVB. [0:27:39, 0:27:45]: uh bringing into about 271,000 of total hotel motel tax the city um retained last year. [0:27:47, 0:27:48]: And [0:27:48, 0:28:08]: So then if we um kind of look at a pie chart of how the budget for the Convention and Visitors Bureau breaks down, you'll see that each of these pie pieces is a different color. The gray piece at the bottom um has is 25%. That's the city of Stockbridge. That represents um the city of Stockbridge contribution or makeup of our overall budget. [0:28:08, 0:28:25]: Um the city of Locust Grove is at 37% at that or orange piece, city of excuse me, Henry County is 36, and then Hampton is that blue slice at the top with 1%. So that's kind of how our overall budget breaks down. We um have not quite equal thirds. [0:28:26, 0:28:30]: if you will, of budget, um, but um we represent everybody. [0:28:31, 0:28:51]: And um we represent a total of 30 hotels as well as a bed and breakfast included in that number. Um and we are still working on how best to represent and work with our short-term rentals since there's not an easy um to access list of all of those properties and or contacts. But those are gonna be an important piece, I think, as we move forward. [0:28:51, 0:28:53]: as those collections continue. [0:28:53, 0:28:58]: And I think the city of Stockbridge collects from five hotels along with that bed and breakfast. [0:29:00, 0:29:20]: So if you want again some just some real numbers of kind of how that number breaks down and what um benefit we receive from being part of a collective organization. Um so here is um kind of a breakdown if we were if the city was trying to replicate the um program that the CVB currently operates without the [0:29:20, 0:29:40]: Additional resources provided by the other cities. And so we take salaries and benefits, occupation expenses. This means anything that's not salaries and benefits, copiers, phone systems, computer, that kind of thing. And then our website, you have this is not to set up a new website, this is just to maintain an existing one. [0:29:40, 0:30:00]: to make sure it is SEO friendly, to purchase servers, domains, SSL certificates, all that kind of thing. And then our visitors guide, which currently is a 68-page magazine-style visitors guide, seven digital billboards, and then a robust digital imprint campaign as long as as well as a media and PR campaign. So all of those things [0:29:59, 0:30:11]: things. You'll see those represented in a dollar figure on the right hand side. Salaries and benefits and occupation expenses account for just one per per person versus the three that the CVB currently has. So there is also um [0:30:12, 0:30:13]: Um [0:30:13, 0:30:25]: We get a lot more access and resources with having three people because we can have people that really specialize in their areas and do really specific things for our partners and for our cities. [0:30:26, 0:30:31]: So here's just a kind of a rundown of some of the highlights of the the program of work for 2021. [0:30:32, 0:30:43]: We as I mentioned we have a a beautiful visitor's guide. The cover here is our 2022 visitors guide. Um and um with our one of my favorite pictures of the [0:30:43, 0:30:48]: Uh Stockbridge Lakes Bed and Breakfast. I just feel like that's such a calming, beautiful image and perfect for where we are. [0:30:48, 0:31:08]: Going into 2020, we hope that that's kind of where people want to be. Um, so in each publication, each magazine, you will have a there is a spread for each city. The content and the images are provided by the city, and we use those city colors as the tabs on the visitor's guide, and then throughout the magazine you will see that when I [0:31:08, 0:31:28]: restaurant is in the city of Stockbridge, it's highlighted in yellow or your kind of your yellow pink, excuse me, your pink, um kind of pinkish coral color to represent um that that's a the location in the city of Stockbridge. We distribute these through um those hotel brochure racks all the way from Stockbridge to the Florida line. And we also distribute these [0:31:28, 0:31:44]: in the Georgia Welcome Centers in special racks that were created by Barn Beautiful. We did that in four racks this year, and it was so successful that we've expanded it to eight racks for this year. And through that program, we were able to distribute almost 40,000 visitors guide. [0:31:44, 0:31:51]: Um the program just was so, so successful. Like so we ordered instead of doing thirty thousand and having to reprint an additional 10. [0:31:51, 0:31:57]: We um ordered fifty thousand this year and we'll with a budget to potentially um [0:31:57, 0:31:58]: Um [0:31:58, 0:32:15]: print more with more if we need them. Um so we're excited about that. And just these are some cop content, excuse me, some emails from the visitor center managers. I don't know if you can really see those, but this is what those racks look like. They do have um they are the custom barn wood and um [0:32:15, 0:32:35]: Ontaria, who is the manager at that center, says that the spot really is a hot spot and that they move like hot cakes and that the repurposed barn would display really brings people to their counter and it lets them tell our per partner's story and that they're telling our story to everybody that'll listen. [0:32:35, 0:32:48]: themselves um are just very conversation pieces, which is what the welcome centers want. They want an opportunity to talk to people, they want an opportunity to share what they know and um [0:32:48, 0:33:08]: We have hosted um several well somebody from at least every center, two people from every center for a um study tour. So they they've been to Henry County, they've been to Barn Beautiful, they've talked to Greg, they've walked around his shop. And so when somebody comes up to them and says, tell me about this brochure rack, tell me about Henry County, what is this, they can do that. Um [0:33:08, 0:33:12]: So that was really exciting. And again, said that we're just um we. [0:33:12, 0:33:16]: Could not keep brochures in these racks last year. Um, so we've [0:33:16, 0:33:25]: partnered with a distribution company so that we can keep um keep guides going. And they asked for 24 boxes right off the bat this year so that they could keep it going. [0:33:26, 0:33:42]: Um, in advertising, we have three permanent billboard locations last year that were digital. Um, and we added two additional spots as part of an Explore Georgia marketing grant. Um, and we had city billboards rotating on these. So this is an example of what the city of Stockbridge's board looks like. [0:33:42, 0:34:01]: And these were um we had them um from Marietta and um all the way down into Henry County. And these are currently still rotating um as part of our general general campaign. We have other boards that do rotate in, but all of our city boards are um rotating as well. So if you're driving, you probably will see these. [0:34:03, 0:34:06]: Um, and we've expanded that campaign to seven this year. So we have seven billboards now. [0:34:07, 0:34:27]: And then here's just examples of some of our digital and our print advertising. The large ad on the right is a print ad that was in Atlanta style weddings. And then you'll see our digital ads that were in various and other publications as well, really kind of covering the gamut of what we what we can advertise. And here's some additional print ads. [0:34:27, 0:34:43]: And um I will say that the ad with the grandfather and his grandsons fishing at Lake Bit Panola is in the straight, was in the state travel guide last year. And um it is about$15,000 for that ad. It's a two-thirds page ad. [0:34:43, 0:35:03]: And it can um I love that size because there's always copy on that page so that nobody's just flipping through it because it's just an ad. They're stopping, they're reading that copy as well. We're only able to afford to buy um that large of an ad because of our collective buying power that we have as being a collective organization. Um and then [0:35:03, 0:35:09]: And these are just some additional options of billboards, excuse me, not billboards on of print ads that we had done last year. [0:35:10, 0:35:12]: We also um have [0:35:13, 0:35:13]: Um [0:35:13, 0:35:33]: a very robust video marketing campaign, digital campaign that we ran um last year and are continuing into this year because of the results that we saw. So we had over 467,000 video, Stockbridge video specific ads that were served either through YouTube, Connected TV, or over the top TV. [0:35:33, 0:35:53]: You've heard them probably called CTV or OTV. These are things like either Hulu or in-stream content or anything that streams off of your connected TV, your live TV, via your phone, those kinds of things. And we had more than 38, excuse me, 382,000 of these videos that were completely. [0:35:53, 0:36:02]: viewed all the way from beginning to end with over 200 clicks to the City of Stockbridge's specific content, either their city page or their itinerary page on our website. [0:36:03, 0:36:23]: And then we also have digital specific ads. And what we did last year that really proved successful that we're moving into again this year is that we looked at each of our cities and we said, okay, what are the things that they have that are really unique, that are really um special and unique for them? What do they have a lot of? Is it history? [0:36:23, 0:36:43]: History, is it food, is it shopping? And then we tailored ads to specific cities that had proven to be high performing cities for those, for that particular city. So Stockbridge's cities may look a little bit different than who we target for Hamptons or for Henry Counties. And so in this ad, you can see it's an ad for the history that Stopburg's. [0:36:43, 0:37:01]: Bridge has, particularly the Floyd Chapel, and these types of ads. So the left one's a mobile, the middle one that you see there, that's a what it looks like on display on desktop. And we had more than 800,000 of these that were impressions or views, people that were they were times they were served or shown. [0:37:01, 0:37:10]: and over 300 and excuse me, 3,200 link clicks or they clicked on these ads to go to our StockBridge specific content on our site to learn more. [0:37:11, 0:37:20]: And for our website, um, these are just two, you can just see these two screen captures. It's hard to do justice to a website um in a presentation like this, but [0:37:20, 0:37:40]: The um one with the map that you see that's our Stockbridge um specific city page. And then the middle is our itinerary that we did. We have an itinerary for each of our cities, and so the top number you'll see the 114 sessions. That is our total site traffic, and then the city specific traffic is below it. So um this day well spent [0:37:40, 0:37:45]: in Stockbridge and the city page, that's where all of our ads landed. [0:37:45, 0:38:05]: We did change um to the day well spent in Stockbridge to the itineraries in September of last year and they really performed very well. And so in fact that the day well spent in Stockbridge was the second most visited page on our site last year with um two point excuse me, two minutes and 17 seconds on that page uh spent on the page. Those are really, really great numbers. [0:38:05, 0:38:05]: Yeah. [0:38:06, 0:38:12]: And from PR and a media standpoint, we do host travel writers. We have a um a page on the um [0:38:13, 0:38:33]: Georgia press room that people can pull um photos and information from. And so last year we had 83 published results for an earned media value of$1.65 million. And what that means is that if we had to go out and buy that kind of ad space and those types of magazines, publications are on those websites, it would have cost. [0:38:33, 0:38:37]: us about$1.6 million in order to do it, but we didn't, we got it as earned. [0:38:38, 0:38:58]: Um, and that accounted for about 172 million impressions. So, what you see here on the right is just um one example of that. We had a writer that came in in October on a press trip and she wrote this amazing article about our bushytail art trail, um, which I'll talk about in just a minute. And it really was a fantastic article that talked about. [0:38:57, 0:39:17]: about the scroll table, about um how they were made by Barn Beautiful, how they were gonna be hung at local places like the Stockbridge Amphitheater. And so just it was a really great article from that particular trip. Just some other examples of impressions and how important media can be in various ways. [0:39:17, 0:39:33]: Leslie Peterson is a writer we had on a press trip in 2015 and we've had a really great relationship since then. And she reached out and said, I'm doing a spot for Good Day Atlanta and I'd love to include Henry County. What are some free and affordable things that you can do in Henry County for spring break? [0:39:33, 0:39:53]: And so she talked about us on uh Good Day Atlanta. And um that had about 3.5 million media impressions and was worth about$36,000 in estimated value. And she mentioned places like Rum Creek and our Bishetil Art Trail, which is just a really great um section. And then we had a guy we hosted in January, his name [0:39:53, 0:40:13]: is Bill Cleveland and he is actually from St. Louis. He was doing a road trip through um from St. Louis to Florida and he stopped in Henry. We um did a lot of different things. He toured um Barn Beautiful, interviewed Greg, and then he did a video that then aired on um a TV show news program. It was [0:40:13, 0:40:15]: was a news program in um Iowa. [0:40:16, 0:40:36]: And um I love this post. I saw that um two days after it aired, a lady from Iowa had was coming to Rockdale to visit her um a friend and had seen the piece and wanted to visit Greg and um Barn Beautiful and called specifically to see if they were going to be open and they were and between her and her friend they spent$800. So this is just a [0:40:36, 0:40:41]: one of those amazing examples of how um media can really drive um [0:40:42, 0:40:43]: The um [0:40:45, 0:40:51]: the the actual spending of a visitor, not just to them to be there, but to come and to spend money. So it's just a great example of that. [0:40:51, 0:41:11]: In addition to all the advertising that we do, we also really work with our partners to make sure they're equipped and that they're recognized for what they do for the industry. So we do that in a couple of different ways. We really feel like it's beneficial for our partners to know each other and to cross-promote each other. So we do that with our hospitality mixers. We invite all of our partners to come out to a local [0:41:11, 0:41:17]: attraction and they get to know each other and really seeing some great relationships built out of that. [0:41:18, 0:41:23]: We have conversations continued, which are an extension of our diversity, equity, and inclusion training program. [0:41:23, 0:41:43]: We do quarterly partner promotions. And this is really where Jana, who's our partner relations manager, partners with a local business. It could be a restaurant, it could be an attraction. And she goes out along with the owner of that business, the manager of that business to the hotels, takes the hotels like a little gift and says, Hey, I am Lisa with Rum. [0:41:43, 0:42:03]: Creek. Here are some free, you know, driving range passes. We'd love to have you or your guests come visit us. So it just really builds those relationships and those connections. We also do monthly customer service awards. So you'll see this is a gentleman at Rock and Roll Sushi on Hudson Bridge who got the customer service award. We look through all of the reviews, finding people who are doing good work. [0:42:03, 0:42:11]: that we can recognize because we all know that the last two years particularly have been really challenging. And so we want to make sure we're calling out that good work. [0:42:11, 0:42:22]: And then we also have a tourism marketing grant that we put into place so that our partners can help to elevate themselves as well, providing them additional opportunities for marketing. [0:42:23, 0:42:37]: We launched two new training programs, one of which was a customer service training program. So your own Christy Dean from Drip Through Coffee did an incredible job with this presentation. She worked with us to put together a [0:42:37, 0:42:56]: really great introductory training program for it we can show to our partners it's free. They can do it online or we can do it in person and facilitated. And it's about 15 to 20 minutes online or facilitated. It takes a little bit longer. It's just it's been really great. We've had um a little over a hundred, 120 people that have gone through that program. [0:42:57, 0:43:17]: And um we also launched a diversity, equity, and inclusion training program that was called Hospitality for All. And it is a five-part um program that went through five different topics with um speakers that were experts in each of these um areas. And then there's a quiz at the end to make sure that that information kind of was really retained. [0:43:18, 0:43:25]: Um and we did our first kind of pilot class last year and are rolling out our second class very soon. [0:43:25, 0:43:29]: And in social media, we do um we maintain um [0:43:30, 0:43:47]: all of the Facebook, Instagram, Twitter. We continue to rotate to make sure that we're getting all of our events, all of our cities promoted, all of our attractions. Leo joined our team in January and has really hit the ground running and has done an amazing job. So if you haven't had a chance to meet him, reach out. I'd encourage you to do that. [0:43:47, 0:44:07]: We also had a couple of new fund initiatives. We um had coloring sheets. So in addition to those um brochure racks at the welcome centers, we also gave all of the welcome centers these custom coloring sheets. So you'll see that each coloring sheet for each of the different cities that we have: Floyd Chapel, Southern Belt Farm Peaches, Helicopters at Army Aviation, and a Tiger. [0:44:07, 0:44:27]: From Noah's Ark, and they had activities on the back. We also gave them branded crayons. Um, and you'll see here's a little note from Rebecca. If you can read it, it says that these are also flying off the shelf. The visitors love them between the welcome centers. Um, and we gave them away at the Atlanta Motor Speedway for race weekend and um. [0:44:28, 0:44:40]: We also had a coloring contest, just all of the things we had about 1300, 13,000 that were given away last year. And we've ordered more and are continuing it, spanning it to all the different welcome centers for this year as well. [0:44:41, 0:45:01]: And then this is the Bushy Tale Art Trail. We launched it last year. We have 18 locations currently, and we'll probably have about 30 before the end of the year. And what it looks like a really kind of simple little squirrel table, but what it is is it's a public art initiative. We have seen tremendous feedback results, people, the way. [0:45:01, 0:45:03]: website is just so [0:45:04, 0:45:24]: The so long, people are spending so long on the website where all these tables are posted, the artist information is posted, and it's a trail. They can go from one location to the next and it's a countywide initiative. We have them at the Speedway. We're gonna have one posted at the amphitheater. Um, one of the we just put one two weeks ago at Stockbridge Lake. So they're just really all over. [0:45:24, 0:45:37]: the county a place that people can go and visit take their picture with them and just have a fun um a kind of a fun experience but also really elevate the look of um artist and henry give them a chance to kind of show off their talent so [0:45:37, 0:45:45]: Um, we're really excited and love that program. Um, and but with that, um fun way to end it. Are there any questions for me? [0:45:46, 0:45:58]: Well, first of all, Laura, uh thank you for the presentation. Uh very informative in this aspect and covering all the gambit of from soup to nuts in a sense. But before we go to the council, I want to ask uh Mr. Henning, do you have anything you want to add at this time, sir? [0:46:00, 0:46:07]: Uh thank you, Mr. Mayor and excuse me, and city council. Uh I would like to Laura, could you go back to slide thirty-three, I believe? [0:46:11, 0:46:13]: Yeah, uh I'm sorry, one more. What go go forward one. [0:46:14, 0:46:18]: The uh the DEI, the uh hospitality for all. [0:46:19, 0:46:31]: Could you share with us, I I believe you said that there were five different sections when we look at the DEI initiative for our travelers. Could you tell us those five uh different segments that that we covered in that, please? [0:46:32, 0:46:44]: Yeah, so the one you're looking at on the screen is um called The Impact of Culture, Custom Consumerism, Capitalism, and Customer Service from Dr. Ansley Booker. And um it really talks about the history of um [0:46:44, 0:46:45]: The [0:46:45, 0:46:45]: Uh [0:46:46, 0:46:50]: African American community in um America and kind of the [0:46:50, 0:46:53]: implications of what that means um [0:46:53, 0:46:54]: On today. [0:46:54, 0:47:01]: And um then we have a session with Maria Peck on understanding the Latinx community. [0:47:01, 0:47:09]: We have a session with uh Josh Lobner, who works for a company called Design Sensory on accessible tourism. And then [0:47:10, 0:47:12]: One with um [0:47:12, 0:47:18]: Gabrielle and Linda, um Gabriel Clayborn and Linda Herds, Hers. [0:47:18, 0:47:36]: Hertz. Um and they speak on LGBTQ plus community. And then we have Grace Lee from um Eagles Landing, not Eagles Landing, yes, Eagles Landing uh Christian Academy. And she talks about intersectionality and kind of building a um [0:47:36, 0:47:39]: A community that you can kind of be [0:47:40, 0:47:44]: um open and like share and kind of just understanding the differences of people. [0:47:46, 0:47:48]: Thank you. And and so with that. [0:47:49, 0:47:59]: It was more than just a superficial look at diversity, equity, and inclusion within hospitality, but what was some of the feedback you got from your hospitality partners that participated in that? [0:48:00, 0:48:10]: The partners that have participated have just really been um super flattering in their in their um commentary. They felt like [0:48:10, 0:48:12]: We had several people that went through feeling like [0:48:13, 0:48:30]: I know this, I'm good at this, I've got this. And then everybody came out of it saying, I learned something I didn't know about some area, you know, and um was practical. That was something that was really important to all of us was that this program was very practical and that nobody went through it and felt like. [0:48:31, 0:48:35]: Okay, well obviously I have a lot of work to do, but what can I do? Um that they [0:48:35, 0:48:55]: We're like, okay, I know how to make some immediate changes. And this is why I need to make those changes. I think that was really important too, is that we really tie these two programs together under what we're calling the culture of customer service. Um, that if you complete both programs, you actually get a PIN and a certificate that says, I'm a culture of customer service expert or complete. [0:48:55, 0:48:56]: [2936.8, 2950.3]: We really feel that culture of customer service and DEI training really go hand in hand and they're interchangeable, that you really can't give excellent customer service unless you understand the people that you're serving, no matter their background. Um, so [0:49:10, 0:49:15]: That's really um I feel like we were able to to to accomplish that not through [0:49:16, 0:49:36]: this work but these speakers are really just amazing and um we've also um had some feedback nationally that we actually were just um able to present for travel unity which is a international or excuse me a national um organization that works to further dei initiatives um in the tourism space and they ask us to speak at their most recent conference so we've [0:49:36, 0:49:40]: just presented um our work um at that conference and [0:49:40, 0:49:52]: Um, so they just said that nobody kind of in the travel space is is this far along and is kind of doing the work that we're doing right now, that everybody's still kind of in the meeting stages. Um, and that this was kind of [0:49:53, 0:49:58]: revolutionary groundbreaking in in that um in that space because we had [0:49:58, 0:50:04]: actually put something in practice that people were able to take it. And it's free to our partners to participate in. [0:50:04, 0:50:08]: Um so that's been it's been exciting and it's really a fantastic program. [0:50:09, 0:50:17]: Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, City Council. I appreciate the opportunity to share our highlights with you and always appreciate the opportunity to partner with you. [0:50:17, 0:50:19]: Good deal. Thank you, Mr Henney. [0:50:19, 0:50:21]: Councilwoman Gann, go ahead, please. You had a question. [0:50:22, 0:50:26]: Well, not really a question, a comment. Um I've [0:50:26, 0:50:27]: Before now. [0:50:28, 0:50:28]: Um [0:50:29, 0:50:35]: I didn't know exactly what the CBB board did for us, to be honest with you. Um [0:50:35, 0:50:47]: And I personally, now that I have a business, a sm a a business that actually serves um products, not necessarily law, but with um the ice cream coffee shop. [0:50:48, 0:50:51]: Um, can honestly say that the C B B [0:50:51, 0:50:55]: CBB board does an excellent job. [0:50:55, 0:51:13]: at marketing, working hard to train, just coming in and welcoming. Um I was very impressed. I'm impressed with the things that they they continue to do. Um I had a chance to meet with Miss Lucre and actually um really to be honest with you I was [0:51:13, 0:51:19]: When I had questions about Stockbridge, not really about my business, but um [0:51:20, 0:51:27]: I'm impressed with the community's uh the customer service video and the trainings and everything they're trying to promote. [0:51:27, 0:51:29]: Um, across the board, all over the county. [0:51:30, 0:51:33]: And so I right now I really think it's a wonderful program. [0:51:33, 0:51:34]: Um [0:51:34, 0:51:50]: I I looked at some of the um billboards, even the ones that we're utilizing now for our concerts at the amphitheater that are included. I had questions. Um I told her some of my concerns when I initially back in 2014. Um [0:51:50, 0:51:55]: And sixteen, I had real concerns in regards to [0:51:55, 0:52:10]: us giving money over 200,000 or whatever that is over to a board and then we have to sign off and write a grant or whatever and ask permission for them to advertise for us. Those policies have since changed. [0:52:10, 0:52:12]: They've been advertising and [0:52:12, 0:52:18]: Um, you know, like something Miss Bragg said a couple of years ago when we all had a a meeting together. [0:52:19, 0:52:38]: At that time, there wasn't a whole lot to promote, but on the front cover page is the bed and breakfast here in Stockbridge. And throughout some of the spreads and everything they do, they really are emphasizing our businesses. And so I really appreciate it. I'm I'm I cannot tell you, I'm I'm very impressed. [0:52:38, 0:52:39]: So thank you. [0:52:40, 0:52:40]: Okay. [0:52:41, 0:52:50]: Council, any other questions that uh thoughts that you may have? Yes, go ahead, please. Thank you for the presentation, uh Miss Lucer and [0:52:50, 0:52:52]: Mr. Henning, we certainly [0:52:52, 0:52:56]: Appreciate you coming to us and uh understanding that uh [0:52:57, 0:52:58]: It's a partnership effort. [0:52:59, 0:53:01]: I do have some questions, uh [0:53:01, 0:53:03]: about uh a few things that uh [0:53:04, 0:53:05]: We talked about. [0:53:05, 0:53:05]: No. [0:53:06, 0:53:10]: Uh I did notice that the city of McDonald was not coming um [0:53:11, 0:53:12]: contributing anything. [0:53:12, 0:53:13]: At this point. [0:53:14, 0:53:17]: Є ай дусі геві презентством. [0:53:17, 0:53:18]: Uh on [0:53:19, 0:53:32]: uh promotionals and uh in different areas, I guess overlapping between visit and then visit Henry and then with the chamber. So uh my question to them is that um [0:53:32, 0:53:36]: They're getting they seem to be getting a bang for no buck. [0:53:36, 0:53:47]: uh off of this versus the square showing up all the time and they're not contributing anything to uh the overall take of where we're trying to go. So [0:53:47, 0:53:48]: Uh [0:53:48, 0:53:51]: I just want to make sure that we're getting the balance. [0:53:51, 0:54:01]: that we deserve in terms of our overall contribution uh of two hundred uh and ten thousand dollars uh for the previous year. So [0:54:01, 0:54:08]: Uh I guess it's a uh it's uh it's a a line between whether the business is there and then [0:54:08, 0:54:09]: What the city [0:54:10, 0:54:17]: uh contributes. Talk about how that uh that line is because I see a lot of that, but I don't see any contribution. [0:54:18, 0:54:19]: On behalf of the city. [0:54:20, 0:54:21]: Something done. [0:54:21, 0:54:41]: So the city of McDonough has its own hospitality and tourism board. So they have someone that manages all of their tourism marketing. So if you've seen billboards that say visit McDonough or if you've seen ads that say visit McDonough, that is because um they have their own hospitality tourism board that is paying for those with the same [0:54:41, 0:54:48]: I mean their money is, I think they're at 8% as well. And so they're receiving that 43.75%. Um [0:54:48, 0:55:01]: just like you know what Stockbridge is sending to to the Convention of Visitors Bureau. And with that money they're then buying um Bill Wards or whatever other promotions that they they see fit for the city of McDonough. [0:55:02, 0:55:03]: Um [0:55:03, 0:55:16]: Right. And that's what I'm saying. I would think that we would see a greater representation of us because of that very fact that they have their own marketing organization. So I would think we would see a lot more of us and Hampton. [0:55:16, 0:55:21]: And uh locus grove who are actually contributing a line share of the money. [0:55:21, 0:55:23]: Well, I I think that [0:55:23, 0:55:26]: Um I think that the McDonna [0:55:26, 0:55:33]: attractions and and hotels that you see in the visitor's guide are those that are in unincorporated. [0:55:33, 0:55:46]: uh Henry counties. So like Southern Belfarm, um, some of those that are McDonough addresses, but are not within the city limits. And so the city limits is the visit is visit McDonough, but anything outside of [0:55:47, 0:55:55]: City limits. So anything from Hampton, Locust Grove, Stockbridge, obviously, but then also the unincorporated areas within Henry County. [0:55:55, 0:55:57]: Are re are represented by the C B D. [0:55:58, 0:56:04]: Well well certainly. I just see a lot of the square pictures and I guess it's like I see a representation of where [0:56:04, 0:56:11]: Uh they're trying to go with that. But thank you uh for that explanation. And again, we just want to make sure that. [0:56:11, 0:56:12]: Uh we're getting [0:56:12, 0:56:14]: Just do a so uh some [0:56:15, 0:56:16]: Representation. [0:56:16, 0:56:18]: And I thank you for the [0:56:18, 0:56:21]: Uh, presentation on diversity and inclusion. [0:56:22, 0:56:27]: Let's talk about your diversity and inclusion. So at the chamber itself, how many employees do you have? [0:56:28, 0:56:29]: Mr Mr. [0:56:30, 0:56:31]: We have something, sir. [0:56:31, 0:56:34]: You have seven. So how many minority employees do you have? [0:56:35, 0:56:37]: I have [0:56:37, 0:56:38]: There are [0:56:38, 0:56:40]: For women. [0:56:41, 0:56:44]: There are currently two African American. [0:56:45, 0:56:51]: And unfortunately, um I I'm don't have anybody that is uh uh differently abled. [0:56:51, 0:56:56]: or of uh Hispanic descent. I do have one that represents LGBTQ. [0:56:57, 0:57:01]: Okay, so out of the seven you have two who are minorities? [0:57:01, 0:57:04]: I would disagree with you, sir, respectfully. [0:57:05, 0:57:17]: Um I would say that I have one. Um, you know, I I I I have a pretty good one I'm just asking, I don't know the answer to it. I would say that I have two that are uh of African American. [0:57:17, 0:57:20]: Okay. Okay. But I also have four women. [0:57:20, 0:57:25]: Okay. I have I have I have a I have a pretty good representation within the [0:57:26, 0:57:29]: the diversity, equity, and inclusion. I'm at I'm not perfect, but we are working there. [0:57:30, 0:57:34]: Certainly, uh you know, it's always a work in progress in terms of where we're trying to go. [0:57:35, 0:57:42]: uh in that so uh my definition was like again was was based on race so let's um [0:57:42, 0:57:47]: Miss uh Luca, you how many people are with the visitor Henry County visitors in [0:57:48, 0:57:49]: Tourism Europe. [0:57:49, 0:57:50]: Three. Good. [0:57:51, 0:58:00]: But we're inclusive of what um Mr. Henning said. So that total seven includes all of your three there. Okay. It does. So so in your department, how many? [0:58:00, 0:58:03]: Uh minorities are in your department. They visit him. [0:58:03, 0:58:05]: We have two women and one African American. [0:58:06, 0:58:12]: Okay, so you have one one African American in this department. Okay, okay. [0:58:12, 0:58:21]: Okay. All right. Well, thank you uh for those numbers. And again, always this is a a per a work uh in progress as the city has. [0:58:21, 0:58:25]: uh supplier diversity policy uh in place to make sure that we get [0:58:26, 0:58:27]: uh representation [0:58:27, 0:58:30]: Uh as well. You did mention [0:58:30, 0:58:34]: About the Airbnbs being purporting [0:58:34, 0:58:41]: uh or required to pay the tax. Is that a self-reporting requirement or is our Airbnb [0:58:41, 0:58:48]: uh acting as the pass-through to get the uh to get that information and does the city have to seek it? [0:58:49, 0:59:09]: They should have contacted you. Airbnb and VRBO was required as of July 1st to have all of their payment systems in place so that they were with they took any payments after July 1st, that they were inclusive of those taxes and they were also responsible to reaching for reaching. [0:59:09, 0:59:24]: reaching out to all of the different entities to facilitate those distributions. So you should be receiving those. And if you are not, then I would recommend you talk to the Department of Community Affairs. [0:59:25, 0:59:43]: Okay. So uh uh again what I'm saying is that I want to understand from the business model side. Maybe I just didn't hear it, is that is Airbnb collecting the fee that way and then passing it on to the city? Or is there uh how's that work? I I mean is [0:59:43, 0:59:49]: Um I don't know if I'm phrasing that right to make sure it's Airbnb, just like with the hotel when they collect the tax. [0:59:50, 1:00:08]: There's a line on there that says this is what that's for. Uh these vendors, is Airbnb receipt, include this in the receipt that the customer received? It does. Yes, sir. Okay. Awesome. That's uh that's great. Now, the other question that I have to ask is this, it's just the there's there's [1:00:08, 1:00:13]: Uh I want to make sure that I understand and I explain this correctly. On Friday. [1:00:13, 1:00:17]: We were at a groundbreaking for sweet Charlie's. It was beautiful. [1:00:18, 1:00:20]: That's a part of what the city does. [1:00:20, 1:00:24]: Uh that business, I did not see a representative from the chamber there. [1:00:24, 1:00:25]: Is there a requirement? [1:00:26, 1:00:29]: To be a member of the chamber, to be featured. [1:00:29, 1:00:30]: Uh and visit Henry. [1:00:32, 1:00:52]: No, visit Henry. Um we are geographically based. We are not a membership-based organization. Um we do depend greatly on our um partners like yourself letting us know when maybe there's a new business opening and that maybe falls within that umbrella. We do have a partner relationship. [1:00:52, 1:00:58]: manager who tries to go out and to meet with new businesses and to um [1:00:59, 1:01:05]: um you know encourage them to participate to get them listed on our website um but [1:01:05, 1:01:06]: Um we are [1:01:06, 1:01:10]: you know, a small staff. And so if there are new businesses opening that um [1:01:10, 1:01:16]: that we we think we should be a part of or that we think that um would fit. We would love those recommendations. [1:01:17, 1:01:30]: Well what what I'm saying is that I would like from my own point of view to see somebody there at these ribbon cuttings, at the city ribbon cuttings on behalf of uh, you know, um visit Henry. [1:01:30, 1:01:48]: Uh councilman sir, if if we if we if we could work with your city clerk or whoever puts those together and they let us know, we'd be happy to participate, whether it's the chamber or the CVB, but we would have representation there. Um I apologize, but we were not aware of the activity on Friday. [1:01:49, 1:01:58]: Okay, so you were you you were not aware of the activity. So going forward, we'll make sure that you're aware of this because it I just wanna make sure that [1:01:58, 1:02:03]: We're we're contributing two hundred and ten thousand dollars on behalf of all of these businesses. [1:02:03, 1:02:13]: whether they're members or not. And then if you come there and then they're not a member, it might be a great opportunity to introduce them to what you're able to do. [1:02:14, 1:02:27]: To create a a greater partnership because and from my point of view, we contributed two hundred and ten thousand dollars on behalf of every business in Stock Reach. So that is the point on that. And my final point. [1:02:28, 1:02:48]: Is this in terms of where we're trying to go uh in terms of the city to be to project the image of a modern, thriving suburb? I certainly appreciate uh the focus on Barn Beautiful, Stockbridge Lakes, but at the certain time there needs to be a broader picture. [1:02:48, 1:02:51]: that covers everything that we do. [1:02:51, 1:02:58]: as a modern thriving suburb that's twenty minutes or twenty-five minutes from the busiest airport in the world. [1:02:58, 1:02:59]: having that uh [1:03:00, 1:03:11]: be somewhat of a a feature. And I went I took a little bit of time upon myself to kind of flip through the different sections. I guess I don't know unless it was uploaded overnight. I did not see [1:03:12, 1:03:18]: uh any features in terms of where the city was, in terms of the amphitheater component being added. And I'd like to know how [1:03:19, 1:03:23]: you're gonna add that or if maybe you have added it or uh overnight. [1:03:23, 1:03:43]: Not overnight, but if you go to our website, I think you may have you may have um an old copy. Um our 2022 visitors guide um on page two or three, um, that's the city stockbridge page, and it is a feature, has a um a beautiful picture of the amphitheater. And then if you go to the activities and um events. [1:03:43, 1:04:03]: events page or activities and things to do page. Then it is a gorgeous picture of the amphitheater with one of your concerts in mid-swing. So we've made a very concerted effort to include the the the amphitheater. It's a fantastic asset for the community and we wanted to be sure to highlight it. You will also see [1:04:03, 1:04:06]: in the calendar of events that we have listed. [1:04:07, 1:04:24]: that there are shows taking place at the amphitheater. When we went to press, we did not have the full schedule. So we did um just note in there that um the full schedule could be found at stockbridgeamp.com. So that is noted um in there as well. So we've made um [1:04:24, 1:04:43]: We tried very, very hard with this year's guide to be as inclusive of a lot of different types of um businesses and or and events as possible. Again, going back to that curator example, we want to make sure that there's a type of art in there for everybody, for anybody who's interested in art, um, whether it's um [1:04:43, 1:05:03]: know modern art or classic art. So those you'll see that if you go to our website to uh visit henrycounty georgia.com. You just scroll down just a little bit, you'll see the cover that I showed you with um from Stockbridge Lakes. You can click get my guide and then you can view a digital copy of the guide. It's been um posted on our site since March. And [1:05:03, 1:05:10]: And it should load quickly. It's really a great, easy, and then all the links also work. It's a click-through book. [1:05:10, 1:05:17]: Well, certainly I appreciate that. And I'll close by saying this. Obviously, we spent twenty-three million dollars on the amphitheater. [1:05:18, 1:05:20]: It is part of the LCI plan. [1:05:20, 1:05:22]: featuring downtown. [1:05:22, 1:05:25]: In that particular area, and certainly. [1:05:25, 1:05:28]: Uh, whatever you can do to help us promote that, I would think that. [1:05:28, 1:05:32]: That would won't be something that we want the council to spend a lot of money there. [1:05:32, 1:05:52]: We got the STEM school coming there with the highlights coming on tomorrow. So downtown would be a key in getting that information out and just making sure that the package is inclusive of the entire picture that we're trying to point and that we're working together collaboratively on that. Thank you. [1:05:52, 1:05:54]: And I'll just make two points, um, councilman. [1:05:55, 1:05:59]: So first is that we are currently working with um [1:05:59, 1:06:16]: um your your team um and we have billboards that ran for the um show that just happened and we also have already have the art for the show that's coming up so we are already um putting those boards in rotation on our existing boards and i will note also that [1:06:16, 1:06:23]: Um, we do have a set of you know budget that we set aside every year that you can say, I would like to um promote. [1:06:24, 1:06:44]: this show or this event. But you as a group, as uh whoever in your organization you did dictate just needs to let us know what those um what that funds are used for. You can use it for billboards if you'd like. You can use it for print ads, radio ads to promote the concert series. You can do it as an individual show or as just a promotion [1:06:44, 1:07:01]: of the concert series that's coming and kind of name of several of the shows. Those are all opportunities that are open to you that we do have um built into the budget, just waiting for you to kind of tell us um what you want to do. And those that that money that's set aside to do that is um [1:07:01, 1:07:12]: you can you know do it under the City of Stockbridge's blank branding uh specifically. And that's in addition to what we are already doing to promote the shows through other channels. [1:07:13, 1:07:27]: And then uh again, I'm sorry, you just every time you speak, you bring up another thing that I certainly want to talk about. Certainly as uh the invitation to the business exists, the concert would just certainly be the perfect opportunity. [1:07:27, 1:07:30]: For visit Henry to set up a table. [1:07:30, 1:07:37]: Where you got three thousand people in there coming in, like you would do at Atlanta Motor Speedway to make sure that we get [1:07:37, 1:07:40]: uh these messages out. So you're welcome and you're invited. [1:07:41, 1:07:50]: Well we appreciate that. We are certainly working on ways that we can um better utilize and mobilize ourselves. And that would be an excellent, um, an excellent opportunity for us. [1:07:51, 1:08:00]: Councilman Alexander, I want you to know that uh all four of the mayors of the cities uh in in uh Henry County automatically uh board a part of the board of directors for the chamber. [1:08:01, 1:08:21]: And the reason why I'm mentioning that to you and rest of the council, if they didn't know that, I routinely, matter of fact, every month, I very seldom would miss a meeting in in the five years now, one in five years now that I've been the mayor to to attend those those monthly meetings and give a report, a positive report, of course, of what's going on in the city of Stockbridge. But I'm mentioning this because I get [1:08:21, 1:08:39]: Emails on a continuum basis of all the chambers' ribbon cuttings. So I make a concerted effort. If there's a ribbon cutting that the chamber is doing inside the city limits of Stockbridge, I make a point to go to that ribbon cutting, introduce myself, meet that business owner, and also talk to them about. [1:08:39, 1:08:48]: that the city of Startbridge also does a ribbon cutting and try to encourage them to communicate with our staff and vice versa to have an actual Stockbridge ribbon cutting as well. [1:08:49, 1:08:53]: So I I do that routine I have been all this time. So I just want to mention that uh to you. [1:08:53, 1:09:13]: in an aspect. So we try to it's a it's a if I don't forget, but sometimes I I might forget something, but but I normally I don't but I I make sure that I I try to tend those and and talk to those particular small businesses and uh turn them on to our staff to get a an actual city ribbon cutting as well. Just want to mention that. Absolutely. If I would like I said just like you said [1:09:13, 1:09:26]: If they would do that uh in reverse for us uh to do the same thing, I think the partnership will work out uh so much uh better in terms of where we're going. Cause like you said, you're at all of the ribbon cuttings as the representative. [1:09:26, 1:09:33]: for the city. So we certainly want to do that. And again, I can't can't help but depride the city of McDonald. We got a seat. [1:09:33, 1:09:36]: But not not contributing so [1:09:36, 1:09:38]: You know, that's the issue for me. [1:09:38, 1:09:39]: And I want to be clear. [1:09:40, 1:09:51]: Councilman, that the city of McDonough, we do not promote anything in the city. I don't know what ads you're referencing or what you're seeing, but if you're seeing something that [1:09:51, 1:09:52]: Um [1:09:52, 1:09:55]: Is promoting the city or that we're saying [1:09:55, 1:10:00]: The it's not something that the Convention and Visitors Bureau is doing. And I also want to be clear that [1:10:01, 1:10:02]: What the chamber does. [1:10:02, 1:10:07]: is different than what the CBB does, that you can be a member of the chamber. [1:10:07, 1:10:18]: and not be a member of the Convention and Visitors Bureau, as is the case with the City of McDonough. So the chamber does work with and promote um things within the city of McDonough. [1:10:19, 1:10:37]: I would I would like to add though that they don't even need to be members of Henry County to be a member of the Henry County Chamber. They can be outside of Henry County, but doing business in Henry County and still be a member of the chamber. What the chamber does is not what we've addressed in this, and I'd be happy to come back at a later date. [1:10:37, 1:10:46]: But but what the chamber does is completely separate to the point of a separate board and separate financials from what the CVB does. [1:10:48, 1:11:05]: Okay. Thank you. All right. Uh Mayor Pro Tem Thomas, go ahead, please, sir. Thank you. Uh Mr. Henson, it's great to see you again as well. Mrs. Luca, thank you uh for coming and for the presentation. And I try to make this brief. I know we sort of went long there. [1:11:06, 1:11:09]: Um, as you may know, Mrs. Locer, um [1:11:10, 1:11:16]: The city of Stockbridge is converting uh a building into a welcome center. [1:11:16, 1:11:21]: a welcoming center. So based on your experience, um [1:11:22, 1:11:23]: What impact [1:11:24, 1:11:27]: Have you seen and and what relationship [1:11:27, 1:11:47]: uh does the uh convention and visitor bureau have with um the various welcoming center i know there's one in mcdonna i'm not sure about the other cities but um what what is your experience and what is the impact uh just based on your experience they will have uh [1:11:47, 1:11:51]: in the city of Starkridge and promoting uh our downtown. [1:11:54, 1:11:57]: I'd say it varies from city to city. Um [1:11:59, 1:12:19]: Um Roswell just closed their welcome center and they're completely remote and they have a mobile welcome center. Um the city of Marietta has their welcome center in a train depot and right in the middle of downtown. So they're obviously and they have, you know, the great food market and the strand theater. So they're right there in the middle of you know, already. [1:12:19, 1:12:22]: people coming and visiting. So I think that [1:12:22, 1:12:42]: Um, you know, that impact can can be different depending on what the city city is. And I can see that um, you know, with your with your businesses in downtown or your access to the to the amphitheater, having a welcome center there um could have benefits. Um, but I you know feel like a lot of it's it is specific to the [1:12:42, 1:12:46]: area into the foot traffic that you already have. [1:12:46, 1:12:55]: People do still won't print pieces. They also want a chance to go to the bathroom. Are you gonna have a public restroom there where people can go to the bathroom if it's a welcome center? [1:12:55, 1:13:06]: I do know that the City of McDonough has a welcome center, but their visitor center or their excuse me, their Convention Visitors Bureau hospitality board is not located in that building anymore. It's in a separate building. So [1:13:07, 1:13:13]: Um, but they still have, you know, somebody that's that's still there to answer questions um that's part of their I think DDA. [1:13:14, 1:13:32]: So everybody kind of does it a little bit differently. Um, I'm not sure if that answered your question at well, I I guess I was trying to go future to see if there if you had any uh planned uh relationship uh with the welcoming center here and start. I I didn't know maybe. [1:13:32, 1:13:44]: um just separate, you know, entities and you just walk in different paths. Um just one, is there any type of relationship or is there any planned uh joint activities or or relationships? [1:13:45, 1:13:46]: I I would say that [1:13:48, 1:14:08]: probably a great time to start that collaborative conversation because I I don't think it's anything that we want and Mayor Ford. I hope you would you would support me in this. It's it's not anything that we would want to see individually undertaken and duplicating efforts. And so if there are opportunities to collaborate, um by all means we would welcome that [1:14:08, 1:14:11]: conversation to figure out how we can support that welcome center too. [1:14:12, 1:14:17]: Thank you. I yield back, Mayor. Thank you. Okay. Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. [1:14:19, 1:14:23]: Uh thank you, Mayor I'll be very brief. Um, I promise. [1:14:23, 1:14:43]: Uh Ms. Lucer, Ms. Henny, I thank you all for your presentation. Being on this council since 2016, I've seen an evolution of your um of the chamber as far as how it advertised the city of Stockbridge. And I like the uh, I'm very pleased with the direction you all are going with that. [1:14:43, 1:15:03]: Um I I thank you, uh Mr. Henning, coming in and taking the mantle and and and really putting uh a lot of emphasis on the different areas of the stock bridge, because I think that stock bridge is so unique, it has so many different components to it. And I think that you all are addressing those components. Uh and I agree with my colleagues that in the future that we would if if it would get to give you [1:15:03, 1:15:21]: All a schedule our events uh pertain to the amphitheater, or how will we do that? Because it's not only going to be um a type of bedroom community, type of cultural community, type of historical community, it's also gonna be an entertainment community and uh all these components coming together into [1:15:21, 1:15:41]: Sist uh and to sit back and how you guys can formulate that and show from the business of relaxation to the businesses of uh entertainment and all in between. I think that uh you guys are heading in the right direction. So I thank you guys for your presentation. And uh I think that anything that we need to address uh pertaining to that. [1:15:41, 1:15:50]: And pertain to advertising and um and however we need to move forward. Um I think that we will have those meetings. And uh I just appreciate the direction you all are going. Thank you. [1:15:51, 1:15:54]: Thank you, sir. I I that that's a great point. I I guess. [1:15:55, 1:16:15]: Because Laura and I do this every day, that we kind of blur what we do. And so there might be things such as the amphitheater and um you know the the attractions and the different things like and the hotels, obviously, um, that you might see come from the CVB side of the building. Um, but from the business perspective, such [1:16:15, 1:16:34]: such as the STEM high school tomorrow, um, that falls within the the chamber side within our workforce development, some of those other pieces. And so we do try to manage the entire picture of Henry County. It just might come from one or the other of us from time to time, sometimes from both, but usually, you know, one of one or the other of us will will handle that lead. [1:16:35, 1:16:55]: Can I do a quick follow-up, Mayor, if you will? No, yes, sir. Go ahead, please. You know, I I know that uh when you look at the cities that are involved with the chamber, um, such as Locust Grove and uh City of Hampton and City of Stockbridge, um, when you talk about so many businesses that want ribbon cuttings, that want to do this, um, that could be a little cumbersome to be. [1:16:55, 1:17:12]: at all the ribbon cutters and with only seven people and staff, but as much as you can, we appreciate it. And I think and I think the mayor that he's probably at uh most of your ribbon cutters, especially when the interest of stock raised at hand. So I think that we're all going in a good direction. [1:17:14, 1:17:16]: Okay. Miss Barber, do you have any questions at all? [1:17:17, 1:17:19]: Okay, Ms. Gantt, go ahead, please. [1:17:20, 1:17:28]: Just uh uh it sounds like at the end we talked about a little bit and Casmin Alexander had made a point. [1:17:28, 1:17:38]: In regards to ribbon cuttings. And I'm an ambassador for the chamber. So I I get all these emails about what ribbon cuttings are throughout Henry County. However, [1:17:39, 1:17:40]: Um [1:17:41, 1:18:01]: I think that just to make sure, just so everyone knows, maybe the clerk can send over to the CBB board as well as the chamber our ribbon cuttings. Um it probably helps them actually. They get to know what new businesses are coming because what it sounds like is they didn't know about these new businesses. So I would [1:18:01, 1:18:09]: Hope that just like the chamber sends us the information, mayor, like he's well, they send you as a board member and me as an ambassador. Um [1:18:10, 1:18:16]: information of of all of Henry County that in return we would send over to the CVB board. [1:18:17, 1:18:26]: And over to the chamber, hey, these are new businesses that we're doing ribbon cuttings for through the city of Stockbridge. And I think that will solve that issue. [1:18:26, 1:18:27]: All right, I'll tell you what. [1:18:27, 1:18:28]: Mayor. [1:18:28, 1:18:37]: Yes, go ahead, please. I'm certainly happy to do that. The ribbon cuttings currently are being done out of our community development department and [1:18:37, 1:18:57]: So um if those are sent to me, I certainly um will be happy to pass that along. I was gonna say Miss Carter, who's online, needs that it's her part of her subset, it's her part of the department. So she really needs to have the lead on that. I mean it's nothing wrong with whoever's nothing wrong with that's wrong. Nothing wrong with Vanessa as a clerk knowing, and of course the city manager's right here, but really as a subset. [1:18:57, 1:18:59]: [4740.0, 4743.7]: And she's online. So I don't know if you want to say something now, Breca or not. It's up to you. [1:19:04, 1:19:19]: Oh, thank you, Mayor. Yes, uh Councilwoman Gantt, we'll most certainly connect with Laura and her team and the chamber and get everything coordinated because we've got a lot of exciting groundbreakings and ribbon cuttings coming up. [1:19:20, 1:19:20]: So [1:19:21, 1:19:23]: We got you covered. Thank you. [1:19:23, 1:19:24]: Absolutely. [1:19:25, 1:19:33]: All right, council. Everybody's got a chance to speak. Anything else before we let uh Ms. Lucer and Joe Henning go, unless they want to stay hang out a little longer. [1:19:34, 1:19:42]: Yeah, I just want I just want to say the same. I have seen a difference in uh the work, you know. I'm always gonna challenge us to do better on every level. [1:19:42, 1:19:53]: But I certainly have seen a difference uh in the work. I just want you to continue working in that direction and uh we're gonna be and uh you know see things move forward. So thank you. [1:19:53, 1:20:02]: Thank you, sir. I promise you we are continuing to work forward. And and and I'll tell you, I I would respectfully ask you that if you see us not, please give me a call. [1:20:04, 1:20:05]: Outstanding. Okay. [1:20:05, 1:20:12]: Laura and Mr. Henning, so long. Take care. Appreciate the briefing. All right. Thank you. Thank you all very much for your time. We'll move on. Thank you very much. [1:20:13, 1:20:15]: Okay, what we're gonna do, ladies and gentlemen, we've got a public hearing. [1:20:16, 1:20:36]: A variance case uh vr 2022-01 for 727 Beth Page Drive. Natisse Patel, the applicant and owner of a residential lot at 727 Beth Page Drive, parcel ID 051F01220000. Request a [1:20:36, 1:20:56]: variance to reduce the property's rear yard setback from the required 75 feet for a golf course abudding lot to 50 feet to allow for construction of a new single family detached home. The property is located in land lot 17 of District 6 within the Starbury City limits. [1:20:56, 1:21:07]: It comprises lot 14 of the block W within the Unit XI of the Eagles Land uh landing subdivision presented by Miss Uh Carter and uh Linda Logan. Please, ladies. [1:21:09, 1:21:18]: Good evening, Mayor. Um uh thank you so much. Um we've got Linda Logan on the line. And I also if you don't mind, I'd like to introduce our new chief planner. [1:21:18, 1:21:20]: Ryan Anderson to the team. [1:21:21, 1:21:29]: Um he is managing planning and zoning and also GIS. So uh Linda, you can go ahead and uh present. [1:21:30, 1:21:34]: Okay, I didn't know if if Ryan wanted to say anything. [1:21:35, 1:21:48]: Well, I I'll say something. Welcome, Ryan. Welcome to the city of Stockbridge. Appreciate you uh joining the team. I know you're gonna do great things uh while you're here, but you're gonna be here for many, many years, right? Absolutely. Okay. I know it's up to you, sir. You got anything you want to add at this time? [1:21:50, 1:21:52]: You're uh you're you're muted. [1:21:52, 1:21:54]: Unless you want to remain muted. [1:21:55, 1:22:04]: Uh no sir. I thank you for uh appreciate your uh your words and uh yes I'm happy to be here and I look forward to doing some great things. Uh I've been here three weeks now, so uh [1:22:05, 1:22:14]: Uh I'm familiar with this case, um, but it was in progress before I got here. So um that's why Ms. Logan is proceeding with it. But yeah, I'm having a great time by being here. [1:22:14, 1:22:16]: All right, good deal. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. [1:22:17, 1:22:18]: Ms. Logan, go right ahead, please. [1:22:19, 1:22:21]: Okay, I'm gonna share a screen. I have a [1:22:21, 1:22:23]: A PowerPoint presentation here. [1:22:25, 1:22:27]: Okay, everyone can see that. [1:22:28, 1:22:30]: Yes. Yes, we can. Okay. We can. [1:22:31, 1:22:37]: All right, this is a variance for 727 Beth Page Drive. It is in the Eagles Landing subdivision. Um [1:22:39, 1:22:48]: And this is a this is a view of uh Beth Page Drive here, which actually is a boundary between the city and county uh right here in this area. [1:22:48, 1:22:51]: Seven twenty seven is highlighted. You can see that there is a [1:22:52, 1:22:53]: A golf course uh behind it. [1:22:54, 1:22:55]: And um [1:22:55, 1:22:58]: And then some other houses here uh on the west side. [1:22:59, 1:23:01]: And the imp the important thing is to look at [1:23:02, 1:23:04]: The the setbacks that these houses have here. [1:23:04, 1:23:07]: And then there's a uh one up here as well. [1:23:08, 1:23:13]: Uh the case facts. Let me see if I can um hide this um [1:23:14, 1:23:16]: panel on the side. Um [1:23:19, 1:23:21]: I guess not. Go right ahead, please. [1:23:22, 1:23:22]: Moving down. [1:23:23, 1:23:30]: Okay, so uh you mentioned the uh the applicant Netesh Patel, um agent is Fazel Superawala. [1:23:30, 1:23:38]: Um, this is a um uh property has about half an acre, and it's on the north side of Vage Drive. It's wooded level and [1:23:38, 1:23:41]: It's vacant, level and wooded, nothing unusual about it. [1:23:42, 1:23:51]: Um this application did come in before the new DC was adopted, but regardless of zone PD PD plan development because it's part of [1:23:51, 1:23:55]: The approved plat of Eagles Landing subdivision. [1:23:55, 1:24:02]: And the plat for that subdivision requires the 75 foot rear yard setback for golf course, golf course lots. [1:24:03, 1:24:07]: So this applicant wants to reduce his reguard seven setback to seventy five feet. [1:24:08, 1:24:08]: Um [1:24:09, 1:24:10]: And um [1:24:11, 1:24:14]: He he eat to from seventy five to fifty feet. [1:24:14, 1:24:20]: Uh in dis further discussions with him about it, he later submitted a letter in which he agreed. [1:24:20, 1:24:23]: To reduce it to sixty five feet. He wants to build a new home. [1:24:24, 1:24:26]: We posted the sign on March first. [1:24:26, 1:24:27]: Um [1:24:27, 1:24:31]: You see surrounding land uses or existing homes and some undeveloped lots. [1:24:32, 1:24:38]: Most nearby homes have 75 feet and one or two appear to have slightly less than that, 62 to 65. [1:24:39, 1:24:40]: Um [1:24:40, 1:24:41]: Now [1:24:41, 1:24:46]: This is a larger view of the area. I um this is the subject property here. [1:24:46, 1:24:49]: There's a couple other lots that I wanna wanna talk about in the area. [1:24:49, 1:24:51]: Uh as far as a zoning um [1:24:52, 1:24:54]: history of the property. [1:24:55, 1:24:55]: Let's see. [1:24:57, 1:24:58]: Here we go. [1:24:58, 1:24:59]: So um [1:25:00, 1:25:05]: similar activities that have happened in the area over the years in 2011. [1:25:05, 1:25:06]: Hey. [1:25:07, 1:25:10]: A rear yard setback was allowed, but that was for a pool. [1:25:10, 1:25:12]: And then number two. [1:25:12, 1:25:14]: Another property uh [1:25:15, 1:25:17]: was g was allowed a reduction [1:25:17, 1:25:20]: In the rear yard, but that one is outside of the city. [1:25:21, 1:25:24]: Number three, eight forty-five Cog Hill. [1:25:25, 1:25:38]: Um now that in 2019 this application started the Henry County Planning and Zoning. They recommended denial because uh there's a certain required criteria criteria in the zoning code were not met. [1:25:38, 1:25:39]: Um [1:25:39, 1:25:46]: And um, but the city um because the Eagles Landing Property Owners Association approved it. [1:25:46, 1:25:49]: Therefore, um the city then approved it. However [1:25:50, 1:25:52]: property it's remains vacant today. [1:25:52, 1:25:56]: Um now nearby on eight forty two Cog Hill. [1:25:56, 1:25:57]: Um [1:25:57, 1:26:03]: Last year City granted administrative waiver rather than a bearing, but that was because of difficult topography. [1:26:03, 1:26:06]: So really the most similar one is number three here. [1:26:07, 1:26:14]: It's not been built. Uh let me just point out on here. Stand by stand by Linda. Linda, stand by, please. Ms. Alexanne, you have a question? [1:26:14, 1:26:17]: Yeah, l let me ask Mr. Garner a question. [1:26:17, 1:26:18]: No, but [1:26:18, 1:26:19]: Typically [1:26:20, 1:26:23]: And I think Henry County has this staff is allowed to [1:26:23, 1:26:36]: uh absorb a 10 for 10 percent or some type waive administrative waiver. So if they're already down to 65 and we're at 75. [1:26:36, 1:26:40]: That's seven and a half. So we're talking about two point five feet. [1:26:40, 1:26:43]: It basically right now. So [1:26:43, 1:26:50]: I I I I want your take on that because uh we talk they we they the we the requirement is seventy-five. [1:26:50, 1:27:07]: They're down all the way to 65 now. Staff can give an administrative waiver of up to 10%. So that's all that's that's seven and a half. So what is your take on that? Because I I mean we we're talking about such a minimal amount at this point. [1:27:07, 1:27:15]: Could I say something? Um the administrative waiver was because of the um difficult uh topography. [1:27:15, 1:27:17]: We don't have that situation here. [1:27:17, 1:27:18]: So that's why. [1:27:18, 1:27:21]: That when a straight waiver cannot be considered. [1:27:21, 1:27:24]: We have ten f we're talking about ten feet. [1:27:25, 1:27:27]: Ten feet. Is that what I'm talking about? [1:27:28, 1:27:29]: Yeah. Um [1:27:30, 1:27:32]: Country Alexander, you [1:27:33, 1:27:46]: Some plan a lot of planning departments allow for administrative variances or waiver from the requirements at a certain percentage. Um obviously the person you read it, it's the zoning administrator or the director of the department. [1:27:47, 1:27:57]: Um, who's charged with reviewing and approving or denying those use the same criteria whether the property is impacted by its shape, size, or topography. [1:27:57, 1:28:17]: that that doesn't allow for the regular regulations to make the property um buildable or usable in such an extent, um then they go ahead and they'll grant those variants based on those criteria. If those criteria don't exist, then obviously um they won't look at administrative variants. [1:28:17, 1:28:23]: will send it directly to the governing body as a variance to to have them address it through that process. [1:28:25, 1:28:28]: And typically even though you would you would in certain [1:28:28, 1:28:33]: You know, if if it's if it's ten if the request is ten feet and the variance is seven and a half. [1:28:34, 1:28:35]: You know [1:28:36, 1:28:41]: No one with that power will would would approve that extra two, even though it's for the close to two feet. [1:28:41, 1:28:45]: Because once you start with that process, you can't stop. So it's just it's [1:28:46, 1:28:50]: prudent to bring it before the legislative body to have them actually address it. [1:28:50, 1:28:51]: to the variance criteria. [1:28:55, 1:28:56]: Also um [1:28:57, 1:29:01]: Also he's requesting a uh a variance to fifty feet, uh, which is like twenty-five feet. [1:29:03, 1:29:08]: Well, she had mentioned that they had uh negotiated that down to sixty five feet. Is that correct? [1:29:10, 1:29:11]: Let me, if I may. [1:29:12, 1:29:16]: So the original request was for 75 to 50 feet. [1:29:17, 1:29:21]: Mm-hmm. That difference did not allow for administrative variance. [1:29:21, 1:29:27]: And it wasn't until we had already advertised, posted the sign on the property. [1:29:27, 1:29:32]: That the applicant stated, Well, I can maybe try to make it work. [1:29:32, 1:29:36]: But at that time it was already scheduled to be a public hearing before. [1:29:36, 1:29:40]: the Planning Commission and the City Council. [1:29:40, 1:29:53]: So the administrative waiver, like Mr. Gardner stated, wasn't an option because they didn't meet any topographic issues by what was being proposed. [1:29:54, 1:30:01]: So there we're moving forward in this request with the original 75 feet to 50 feet. [1:30:04, 1:30:09]: with sixty five on the table at this point that we know that that would be agreeable. Is that correct? [1:30:10, 1:30:13]: The the applicant is on, I believe is on the line and can speak to that. [1:30:16, 1:30:21]: I had a question. Well we'll stand by a second. The applicant, did you want to address that now, sir? [1:30:21, 1:30:22]: If he stays online. [1:30:24, 1:30:32]: Mayor. Yes, yes. Stand by please. I was just one double check if the Africans online, if you want to address that, I want to give them an opportunity to do that. [1:30:34, 1:30:41]: I okay. If not, go ahead. Um all right. Um uh let's go back to Mr. Blount. He spoke first. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [1:30:42, 1:30:53]: Mayor, I'm I'm almost in agreement. I I understand from the pers uh from the perspective that that it had already been advertised and what was already stated that, you know. [1:30:53, 1:30:58]: Um procedurally we have to move forward with this um [1:31:00, 1:31:10]: uh w with this because it was advertised for this. Uh and I'm gonna uh I would like to know if the app if the applicant is is asking for 65. [1:31:10, 1:31:30]: Um is there any if if we went out there and looked at is there anything that would disturb any property, any land or anything or uh water runoff or anything by giving by changing it to 65? Because it seemed like the community itself is saying they're okay with it. Uh so and now we're doing now we're we can't. [1:31:30, 1:31:40]: can't go into what what he's uh selling for 65 because we advertise this meeting that it's gonna go from 75 to 50, but 65 is thrown out there. [1:31:40, 1:31:52]: Why would um it would the the ground dist would they is there any ground disturbances in this that since you all see y'all went and looked at it of of anything for as uh runoffs or anything like that? Is [1:31:54, 1:32:06]: I'm just trying to it wouldn't appear that that there is council uh councilman Blount uh once we receive a official plan with the whatever is approved by the council. [1:32:06, 1:32:20]: The applicant will have to ensure that they meet the requirements to meet the required mitigation for runoff on the lot. So they will still have to adhere to that. [1:32:20, 1:32:21]: In accordance with the code. [1:32:22, 1:32:23]: That would not change. [1:32:23, 1:32:28]: Well it then it goes back that that if the community is okay with it in the in and it's almost uh [1:32:29, 1:32:40]: uh uh variance changed to he said the sixty five and if the contingency is that that it meets the rec the code requirements of of of the property I'm just [1:32:42, 1:32:42]: Oh. [1:32:43, 1:32:44]: Oh he was [1:32:44, 1:32:54]: He was threatened with uh with a outright denial by staff. Uh staff was considering denial her d deni denying his c request for a twenty-five feet reduction. [1:32:54, 1:32:57]: So he negotiated with staff and that's how we reached sixty five feet. [1:32:58, 1:33:03]: So staff would does staff come with recommendation on it on the on the ten feet difference? [1:33:04, 1:33:06]: Yes, we have recommendations in the staff report. [1:33:07, 1:33:11]: Okay, so we can accept the staff recommendation. [1:33:12, 1:33:13]: Yeah, thank you. [1:33:13, 1:33:17]: You can. My hope is the applicant will be on the line. [1:33:18, 1:33:31]: Go ahead, go ahead, Ms. Carter. Go ahead and finish your statement, please. Ms. Carter. I hope that the applicant will be on the line to be able to provide some um input um on the call, but he may not he may not have made it onto the to the call. [1:33:31, 1:33:34]: Okay. I'm not seeing the applicant. Okay. [1:33:35, 1:33:36]: Okay, Miss Gantt, go ahead, please. [1:33:38, 1:33:45]: Um now that um Councilman Blount pretty much summed up some of the questions that I had. [1:33:45, 1:33:50]: And I wanted to know what the staff recommendation was for this particular property. Um [1:33:51, 1:34:07]: If if I do have a concern that the applicant is not online. So if there are some questions that we need to ask or, you know, some things we need to make sure of. But I I personally think that we we can go by staff recommendation. [1:34:08, 1:34:10]: Okay. Mr. Gardner, do you [1:34:11, 1:34:16]: Continue with my presentation. Stand by a second, please. Mr. Gardner, you're unmuted. Did you have something you need to say, sir? [1:34:17, 1:34:19]: No no so, no sirve. Okay. [1:34:20, 1:34:25]: Go ahead, Ms. Logan. We can end the presentation and go ahead and move forward, Mayor. I mean we just [1:34:26, 1:34:27]: At this point. [1:34:27, 1:34:38]: is it we we just kind of tying up time we could we we got the general gist of it we had the notes on it i think we just we I'm I'm willing to accept the sixty five feet so we can move [1:34:38, 1:34:42]: Mayor, I I do want to hear the staff's recommendation though. [1:34:42, 1:35:02]: I want to hear what exactly is their recommendation. Recommendation, okay. It's it's also a public hearing. Yep, it is a I have it is a public hearing. So I so we can't vote on this just yet. But anyway, um Ms. Logan, uh continue on and and emphasize, I guess, uh or Ms. Carter, the staff recommendation, how you came about that. [1:35:02, 1:35:10]: Whatever the case is. Right. So the staff recommendation is for the reduction from 75 to 65. [1:35:12, 1:35:21]: And the Planning Commission on March 24th, they approved the reduction from 75 to 50 outright. [1:35:22, 1:35:28]: So you have the staff's recommendation with the reduction to 65 feet and the planning commissions. [1:35:28, 1:35:34]: recommendation from seventy-five to fifty feet for the full bearance request. [1:35:35, 1:35:35]: All right. [1:35:36, 1:35:43]: All right, knowing that, then uh tell you what, I'll stop this portion and we'll go on to open up the public hearing. [1:35:43, 1:36:03]: So I'll open up to a public hearing. So um if I'd like to get any comments from the public, if there are any out there that are in favor of this particular uh reduction from 75 to 65 feet. If and um so otherwise uh Ms. Holiday, if you have anybody that that wants [1:36:03, 1:36:14]: wants to uh make a comment for. And uh I believe um Santa Thorne's online as well with anything on the Facebook Live in reference to any requests for or comments for. [1:36:15, 1:36:21]: So mayor online on the Zoom call, I don't see any raised hands. Okay. [1:36:22, 1:36:23]: Mr. Orden? [1:36:31, 1:36:32]: Mr. Warren? [1:36:35, 1:36:46]: All right, Ms. Holliday, so uh if you see you see no no raised hands for four, um, how about against? Any raised hands against uh this uh recommended uh reduction from 75 to 65 feet. [1:36:46, 1:36:47]: Anything at all? [1:36:49, 1:36:52]: Just wait a second for anyone to respond. Okay. [1:36:56, 1:36:58]: Mayor, there are no raised hands. [1:36:58, 1:36:58]: All right. [1:37:00, 1:37:01]: Alrighty. [1:37:01, 1:37:06]: Well, I will tell you what, open the public hearing, I will now close the public hearing. [1:37:06, 1:37:21]: And the attorney is online. So if I that's the right thing to do, we'll close this out. And I'll ask for uh any other comments from the council. And if not, any particular comments, then I just need a motion to accept this uh recommendation. [1:37:21, 1:37:27]: Mr. Mayor, I could just mention that if if the council wishes to prove this, we have identified [1:37:27, 1:37:31]: Um some conditions of approval that are here on this slide. [1:37:32, 1:37:32]: Okay. [1:37:34, 1:37:37]: Okay. What are those? Go right ahead, please. [1:37:38, 1:37:42]: Okay, so we recommend denial reduction of fifty feet, but if the the [1:37:42, 1:37:45]: But then the approval of a variance to [1:37:45, 1:37:46]: Sixty five feet. [1:37:46, 1:37:49]: Um, should have the following conditions. [1:37:49, 1:37:51]: That A, the property should be [1:37:51, 1:37:57]: developed only accordance with a site plan that's similar to the one that was submitted. The one that was submitted [1:37:57, 1:37:58]: Still shows [1:37:58, 1:38:02]: uh the fifty feet. So he would would need to submit another site plan. [1:38:03, 1:38:04]: Showing the the sixty five feet. [1:38:05, 1:38:10]: A B the rear yard setback should be no less than sixty-five feet measured from the rear yard. [1:38:10, 1:38:12]: to the nearest point of the [1:38:12, 1:38:12]: Home. [1:38:13, 1:38:14]: And see um [1:38:14, 1:38:20]: property should be developed in accordance with all other stipulations of Eagles Landing Property Owners Association. [1:38:20, 1:38:24]: And finally, property should be developed in accordance with other stipulations. [1:38:24, 1:38:27]: Of the approved plat for Eagles Landing Subdivision Unit Eleven. [1:38:29, 1:38:35]: Mayor Four, these are all in accordance with code. Um, there's nothing outside of that that we're adding here. Okay. [1:38:37, 1:38:41]: All right. All right. So so uh Ms. Gantt, you have your hand up? [1:38:43, 1:38:44]: You've you're muted, Miss Kent. [1:38:45, 1:38:52]: I would like to make a motion to approve this with staff's recommendations and the conditions that have been read for approval. [1:38:52, 1:38:53]: So a second. [1:38:53, 1:38:57]: Second. Okay, Miss Alzheimer's second that okay, all in favor, please indicate. [1:38:59, 1:39:00]: Okay, uh maybe. [1:39:02, 1:39:13]: Unless we pull the screen, I need you to um let me know what that vote is, maybe. Yeah, well that's what I'm I'm trying to count right. So it looks like uh everybody, Miss Barber, did you vote? I have a question, please. [1:39:13, 1:39:13]: Yeah. [1:39:14, 1:39:23]: Looking at the slide and the recommendation. Um, the last note, uh item B, it says um approve. [1:39:24, 1:39:27]: Planning Commission's recommendation approval of the fifty feet. [1:39:27, 1:39:28]: So does this [1:39:29, 1:39:30]: Motion. [1:39:30, 1:39:33]: Include the approval of the sixty five feet. [1:39:33, 1:39:36]: Yeah. [1:39:36, 1:39:37]: Camp just did, I believe. [1:39:38, 1:39:40]: It's the sixty five, yes. Okay, thank you. [1:39:41, 1:39:43]: All right. Once again. [1:39:44, 1:39:47]: I tell you what, I don't uh could you remove the slide, please? [1:39:48, 1:39:52]: Uh we can stop sharing. Yeah, stop sharing. There you go. I'm sorry, stop sharing. [1:39:53, 1:39:57]: All right, now all in favor of the mo motion has been made by second. All in favor of motion, please indicate. [1:39:58, 1:40:02]: Okay. So it looks like it's unanimous decision. Okay. Good deal. Appreciate it. Thank you. [1:40:03, 1:40:05]: I will move on to new business. [1:40:05, 1:40:13]: New business council consideration to fill a vacancy and appoint a member of the Downtown Development Authority Board. Presented by Mr. Peterson, sir, please. [1:40:13, 1:40:33]: Yes, sir. Thank you, Mayor and Council. The DDA is actually still reviewing the applications. We received more, the DDA received more than expected. They're going to review it, well, continue reviewing and discuss these applications during next week's April 19th meeting, and then we'll have an update during the April. [1:40:33, 1:40:35]: April twenty sixth meeting. [1:40:36, 1:40:37]: Okay, all right. [1:40:38, 1:40:48]: So be it. Thank you, sir. We'll move on. Council consideration approved the East Atlanta Road slash least free roadway improvements project change order number one. [1:40:48, 1:40:59]: with summit construction development for the modification of the traffic signals and the use of the alternative alternate bid, I'm sorry, pricing for street print crosswalks. [1:40:59, 1:41:04]: An amount of two hundred ninety-two thousand one hundred and eighty-one dollars and eighty-five cents. [1:41:04, 1:41:07]: Funding sources from SPLOS. Mr. Aaron, please. [1:41:07, 1:41:27]: Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. I have skip Leighton with Falcon Design on as well. This is in reference to the two traffic lights. One is at East Atlanta, North Henry, the other is at North Lee Street and North Henry. The city requested that the masked arms be black. So this is a change order to incorporate that. [1:41:27, 1:41:34]: And also to use the street print for crosswalks, but Mr. Leighton is on the line if anybody has any questions. [1:41:34, 1:41:37]: Ms. Mr. Leighton, uh do you have anything you need to add at this time, sir? [1:41:37, 1:41:57]: Uh no sir. We just to let you know, we talked about this at the retreat and uh based on the contract documents we did modify the uh contractor's original request which was nearly three hundred thousand dollars for the signals alone. Uh we brought that back in line with what was allowed by contract only. We had it chosen. [1:41:57, 1:42:05]: checked by the uh uh signal guys that did actu did the design in this area and everybody's in agreement that the prices are correct. [1:42:06, 1:42:10]: All right, thank you. So council, any questions for Mr. Leighton or Mr. Dessis, please? [1:42:10, 1:42:12]: Yes, sir. Go right ahead. [1:42:12, 1:42:16]: Uh what's the funding source? I think we already have this, right? [1:42:16, 1:42:17]: Just plausible. [1:42:19, 1:42:28]: Okay, this funny sauce is squad. And for the purpose of the public, so the public understands. And we hear about this every single day about traffic. [1:42:28, 1:42:31]: Uh, this is part of the East Atlanta Road. [1:42:31, 1:42:32]: Uh [1:42:32, 1:42:35]: Project and the Lee Street Project. [1:42:36, 1:42:41]: So uh of as a part of the overall project, you will have a turn lane. [1:42:41, 1:42:58]: uh that will run from the railroad tracks all the way to North Henry Boulevard. So no more sitting there waiting to turn at the traffic signal. So a new signal will be added, a turn lane, a turn arrow will be added, uh it will be dressed up. [1:42:58, 1:43:18]: In terms of how it would look, many of us go to different areas uh where we look, or we'll go to Cumberland, or we might go up to uh, you know, in the city and we see the brick, the pretty uh brick stamp pavers uh on the crosswalk, so they'll be distinct, beautiful, and dressed up. So beautification is what we [1:43:18, 1:43:20]: We hear about a lot. [1:43:20, 1:43:24]: uh in uh in and around the city. So this [1:43:27, 1:43:33]: Project will help, especially uh especially at North and South Lee Street, which will be formed into a four-way intersect. [1:43:38, 1:43:42]: Because he mostly frozen then I believe. Okay, he is frozen. [1:43:44, 1:43:50]: 'Cause everybody's out of there in the first thirty minutes anyway, but we're making sure that we put [1:43:50, 1:43:51]: Uh, everything. [1:43:51, 1:43:52]: uh in there. [1:43:53, 1:43:53]: So [1:43:53, 1:43:57]: I certainly would like to go ahead and make a motion for approval. [1:43:57, 1:43:59]: Uh as recommended by staff. [1:44:00, 1:44:00]: Was there a second? [1:44:01, 1:44:02]: I second. [1:44:02, 1:44:05]: Ms. Gan second, are there any other questions or concerns? [1:44:06, 1:44:07]: Ms. Barber, go ahead. [1:44:07, 1:44:09]: You have a question, concern, or are you voting? [1:44:09, 1:44:15]: No, no question. So stand by stand by Mr. Blount. Ms. Gobber, did you say what now? [1:44:16, 1:44:18]: Questions for Mr. Wiggins. [1:44:19, 1:44:20]: Okay, go ahead, please. [1:44:20, 1:44:21]: Um [1:44:21, 1:44:22]: So the [1:44:23, 1:44:28]: I guess you guys just a financial of this blast account. What other project? [1:44:30, 1:44:30]: Has been [1:44:31, 1:44:33]: allocated to this account. [1:44:34, 1:44:37]: For this particular top. This this is this is the East Alam. [1:44:38, 1:44:42]: There's there's on um the road there's East Atlanta and [1:44:43, 1:44:44]: Uh Lee Street. [1:44:44, 1:44:45]: Right. [1:44:45, 1:44:46]: That's what's coming out the other county. [1:44:48, 1:44:51]: Okay, so I'm just looking at this column for actual. [1:44:51, 1:44:52]: So [1:44:52, 1:44:53]: Mm-hmm. [1:44:54, 1:44:56]: Those that's so that's excellent. [1:44:56, 1:44:57]: That's East Soleil and Lee Street. [1:44:58, 1:45:00]: Around that. Mm-hmm. [1:45:05, 1:45:11]: There you go. You can read. Okay. Okay. It's okay. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [1:45:12, 1:45:19]: Uh Mayor, I I'm I think um what I what I was trying to find out is that the allotment of money uh [1:45:20, 1:45:28]: That was set up in SPLOS for that funding. This is the only portion that's coming out at this point. Is that correct, Mr. Dacious? [1:45:30, 1:45:39]: Actually, you have costs coming out for the construct construction work that they've already performed. This would be part of that funding source. [1:45:40, 1:45:45]: So for the full amount that we had already alighted for this splotch funding. [1:45:46, 1:45:50]: Is this still the the portion that we had put overall for the roads for this? [1:45:51, 1:45:54]: Funding. Or is this a is this gonna be coming out of newsplots money? [1:45:56, 1:46:01]: This is out of uh this is my understanding, it's out of the East Atlanta and North Lee Street Project. [1:46:02, 1:46:03]: Slash four. Okay. [1:46:04, 1:46:15]: Okay, gotcha. That's what I meant. I just want to make sure this was cup still coming out of that same SPLOSS funding and not the new SPLOSS fund. No, I'm fine. So I'm I'm uh I'm I I'm good with it. [1:46:15, 1:46:16]: Okay. [1:46:16, 1:46:18]: Councillor, any other questions? [1:46:18, 1:46:22]: The motion has been made and and seconded. So yes, miss yes, Ms. Cant. [1:46:24, 1:46:27]: Aye. All in favor, please indicate. [1:46:29, 1:46:31]: All right, tsunami decision. Appreciate that. Thank you, gentlemen. [1:46:31, 1:46:33]: Thank you for those. [1:46:35, 1:46:51]: Okay, council consideration to grant the chief of police the authority to implement and or amend police department policies and procedures with review by legal counsel as appropriate, excluding policies and procedures with a financial impact greater than$5,000. Presented by uh Chief Tremor. [1:46:54, 1:46:57]: Thank you, Mayor and Council. Let me share my screen here with you. [1:46:58, 1:46:58]: Okay. [1:47:15, 1:47:20]: Okay. Are you all able to see that? Yeah. We are able to see it now. Thank you. Okay. Excellent. Excellent. [1:47:29, 1:47:36]: So the um first matter before you all is the approval of the policies and procedures or uh authorizing myself [1:47:37, 1:47:45]: To implement policies and procedures necessary for the operation of the police department. And before I get into that, I want to share with you all a little bit. [1:47:45, 1:47:47]: About the direction that we're moving. [1:47:47, 1:47:49]: with the police department. [1:47:49, 1:47:50]: Um [1:47:50, 1:47:57]: We have actually already committed to the Georgia Association of Chiefs of Police to be part of their state certification program. [1:47:58, 1:48:05]: And as it relates to the state certification program, this is an independent accrediting body by the Georgia Association of Chiefs of Police. [1:48:06, 1:48:11]: that comes into our organization, evaluates our policies and procedures to ensure that they [1:48:11, 1:48:14]: meet the uh criteria. [1:48:14, 1:48:21]: um of the current policies and procedures and recommended operating guidelines for police department. [1:48:21, 1:48:28]: Um, in this manual, there are 139 state standards that our department would have to meet in order to achieve the certification. [1:48:29, 1:48:33]: And just so you all know, there are only a hundred and thirty two of the twelve hundred and fourteen. [1:48:33, 1:48:39]: uh current law enforcement organizations in the state of Georgia that have achieved state certification. [1:48:39, 1:48:50]: We have already committed with the Georgia Association of Chiefs of Police of moving towards that uh to meet that standard. And so why are we moving forward with that? Well, obviously. [1:48:50, 1:48:56]: Uh what it does is it ensures for us that our policies and procedures are in compliance with uh state and national standards. [1:48:56, 1:49:11]: And additionally, by having these policies and procedures, it of course reduces the liability to the city, to the police department, and to those working inside our organization. And another benefit is that should the city decide to move forward with insurance through um [1:49:12, 1:49:13]: Gurma [1:49:13, 1:49:18]: that by achieving state certification, we would be eligible for a twenty percent discount on our insurance premium. [1:49:19, 1:49:23]: Um, so there's some some definite benefits of the certification program. [1:49:23, 1:49:29]: Uh the process for this program is first and foremost is organizational commitment, which we have already committed. [1:49:29, 1:49:34]: To pursuing this standard. We have applied for the certification. [1:49:34, 1:49:39]: And the next part of that process is to develop our policies and procedures. [1:49:39, 1:49:46]: Um afterwards there would be on-site assessments with uh certified assessors to the Georgia Association of Chiefs of Police. [1:49:46, 1:49:53]: where they would look at our policies and procedures manual to make sure that they met all of the 139 standards that was previously listed. [1:49:54, 1:50:00]: Um, then there would be a state certification committee that would review these, uh, then it would further be reviewed by a joint review committee. [1:50:00, 1:50:10]: They would actually come into our organization and look at our processes and procedures, not only review policy, but also to come in and actually physically inspect that we're in compliance with those standards. [1:50:11, 1:50:14]: After we do that, we would be awarded the certification. [1:50:14, 1:50:21]: And then we would be responsible for redes recertifying um every two years thereafter. And this is something that we're moving towards. [1:50:22, 1:50:26]: So obviously uh policies and procedures are um [1:50:26, 1:50:30]: a key component of that and um it is important [1:50:32, 1:50:38]: First and foremost, every organization should have uh policies and procedures that address these high liability areas. [1:50:38, 1:50:45]: Uh, while not every organization in the state of Georgia is certified, it is rec it is recommended through Georgia Association of Chiefs of Police. [1:50:45, 1:50:50]: Um that they do have these uh policies in these perci in these particular areas of which [1:50:51, 1:51:11]: um are built within our policies and procedure manual. So when I refer to or you hear reference to uh proper vetting by legal counsel as it relates to specific policies and procedures, these are the policies and procedures that we're referring to and I'll show you that's outlined here shortly. So these critical areas are looking at our human [1:51:11, 1:51:23]: resources and uh equal opportunity employment, which the city currently has policies on. And we've um we we've essentially um copied some of those standards uh or copied the standards that the city currently has. [1:51:23, 1:51:30]: Uh policies on evidence and property, vehicle operation, search and seizure, use of force, arrest, off duty, uh extra employment. [1:51:30, 1:51:35]: Um specialized equipment, mental illness, and then anything governing multi-jurisdictional task forces. [1:51:37, 1:51:41]: So this is um our current operating manual. [1:51:42, 1:51:47]: So you can see here, these are the policies and procedures that we have in process. [1:51:47, 1:52:01]: This is a voluminous manual. There are probably 600 pages in this manual. And this is just a general overview of the policies and procedures that we need to implement in order to be in compliance and to move forward with the certification process. [1:52:02, 1:52:08]: So you can see here uh there are 23 chapters. We have a written directive session uh section, our mission, goals, and objectives. [1:52:08, 1:52:13]: uh a chapter that speaks to department organization, professional standards. This basically governs [1:52:13, 1:52:22]: Um, our internal investigation processes. These highlighted areas are the high liability areas that I just re just uh briefly mentioned to you here. [1:52:22, 1:52:24]: So you can see this um [1:52:24, 1:52:31]: uh highlighted section here afterwards, that's the actual state certification standard that speaks to that specific policy. [1:52:32, 1:52:32]: Um [1:52:33, 1:52:39]: Outside employment was another one of those areas. So we have policies governing officers being able to work secondary jobs outside employment. [1:52:39, 1:52:47]: Our code of conduct is our internal operating procedures, uh, policies and procedures that deal with disciplinary actions, code of ethics. [1:52:47, 1:52:51]: uh neglective duty, um all these things that you can see here. [1:52:51, 1:52:57]: uh grievances. Uh this grievance policy models the city's policy as it relates to grievances. [1:52:58, 1:53:01]: Uh, we have a policy on uh dress code, how we're to um [1:53:02, 1:53:04]: uh maintain our uh equipment. [1:53:05, 1:53:12]: Arrest procedures, another high liability policy that we need to implement here. As you can see, search and seizure was another area mentioned. [1:53:12, 1:53:18]: We have a policy on chapter 10 here, civil processes, policies over weapons, policies over use of force. [1:53:18, 1:53:22]: Vehicle operations to include how we uh handle pursuits. [1:53:23, 1:53:23]: Uh [1:53:23, 1:53:28]: Policies that govern how we deal with property and evidence are records unit communication patrol. [1:53:28, 1:53:29]: Um [1:53:30, 1:53:33]: Detainment of uh and transportation of prisoners. [1:53:33, 1:53:38]: Policies and procedures on investigations, how we deal with juveniles, unusual occurrences. [1:53:38, 1:53:42]: What are your bomb threats, SWAT incidents? Um uh [1:53:42, 1:53:45]: In suspicious packages, things along those lines. [1:53:45, 1:53:50]: We have a policy that governs how we do training. And then the final policy is dealing with [1:53:50, 1:53:56]: the mentally ill. So as you can see, there are a number of policies that the police department needs to implement. [1:53:56, 1:54:01]: And uh it's pretty standard the chief of police in uh most all jurisdictions. [1:54:02, 1:54:06]: Um, is responsible for implementing sound policies and procedures. [1:54:06, 1:54:07]: Uh that [1:54:07, 1:54:11]: ensure that the police department is operating in accordance with uh [1:54:12, 1:54:13]: Recognized standards. [1:54:13, 1:54:20]: So as we move forward with this process, we obviously have new staff members coming on board. It's important for us to move these things forward. [1:54:21, 1:54:26]: We're in the process now. Uh most of these policies have been written, so we are in the review process now. [1:54:26, 1:54:31]: of uh going over those, but of course um with the approval of this resolution. [1:54:32, 1:54:36]: Those high liability pro policies would also be properly vetted uh with our [1:54:37, 1:54:41]: uh legal counsel as well. So I'll open it up for any questions that anyone has. [1:54:41, 1:54:44]: Thank you, Chief. Uh Ms. Gantt, go ahead, please. Saw your hand first. [1:54:45, 1:54:49]: Thank you. Um Chief, are you saying that you want us to [1:54:49, 1:54:52]: vote to implement a policy that we have not read. [1:54:53, 1:54:59]: You want to say that. This is giving me the authority to uh implement the policies and procedures on behalf of the police department. [1:55:01, 1:55:06]: Yeah, but where are they? Like we are we gonna approve those policies and procedures? [1:55:07, 1:55:13]: Now that's typically not what happens in most uh government organizations that authority is given to the chief of police. [1:55:14, 1:55:19]: implement those policies. If we had to bring every policy before council, we'd be reviewing policies through the end of the year. [1:55:20, 1:55:36]: Okay. So I'm um this is new for me as in regards to the police department, but I would think that um, you know, we would at least I see the topics, but we would at least, you know, have a copy of those policies before we approved a resolution. [1:55:36, 1:55:41]: to move forward with the policy that we haven't really approved. [1:55:41, 1:55:58]: I mean, we are the legislative body, correct? So I I just wanted to know whether or not whether we received a copy. I don't know what we're approving. We're approving sounds like we're approving or or granting permission for you to write the policies and procedures and whatever you write and says go. [1:55:59, 1:56:00]: Is that what we're doing? [1:56:02, 1:56:04]: Mr. Gardner, you had your hand up. Did you want to speak to that, sir? [1:56:06, 1:56:09]: Well no, I'm asking you Chief. Is that what we're doing? I'm not asking Mr. Garner. [1:56:10, 1:56:15]: Okay. Well council council one again, um yes, and that typically I understand this is new to you, but this is [1:56:15, 1:56:32]: Generally, what happens in most all jurisdictions. The chief of police of the city of Atlanta is the sole authority on the policies and procedures of the department. They're considered to be the resident expert. And it's not that I'm making these policies up. These policies are recognized state and national standards. So these are templates. [1:56:32, 1:56:38]: That are provided to us. And I think if you were to look at most all organizations across the state of Georgia. [1:56:38, 1:56:44]: Who have a policies and procedures manual. And unfortunately, not every department has a policies and procedure manual. [1:56:44, 1:56:50]: that this authority it uh rests with the chief of police of that organization. And the thing of it is is you have to understand like [1:56:50, 1:56:55]: Some of the things that we've seen across the board, if we run into an issue where we [1:56:55, 1:57:01]: recognize that there's something that needs to be modified with our use of force policy to ensure that we're able to [1:57:01, 1:57:02]: Um uh [1:57:03, 1:57:09]: You know, we need to be able to change those standards quickly if there's something that impacts public safety. And so these things generally are not things. [1:57:10, 1:57:24]: that um are brought before council for approval for every policy and procedure. These policies and procedures are always in process. They're constantly being reviewed. There are new policies and procedures by virtue of operation that we end up having to implement. [1:57:24, 1:57:29]: And uh most organizations have and we do have an office of professional standards, we have [1:57:29, 1:57:39]: Uh Captain Moman, who's a certified state accreditation manager, who's had training in state certification accreditation, who understands all the policies and procedures. [1:57:39, 1:57:46]: and is responsible for ensuring that we receive the correct policies and procedures that those are in compliance again with state and national standards. [1:57:47, 1:57:47]: Okay. [1:57:48, 1:57:56]: So where would the language come from? Would it be come from would it be copied verbatim from the state national standards? Um, or would it be [1:57:57, 1:57:57]: Um [1:57:58, 1:58:02]: something that you guys would draft you would draft, you and your staff would draft. [1:58:02, 1:58:09]: Yeah, the the general standards are the it's template. It's pretty standard language, but we would have to customize that to [1:58:10, 1:58:12]: Спіть парли ту. [1:58:12, 1:58:15]: our operating procedures within the Stockbridge Police Department. [1:58:16, 1:58:17]: Okay. Thank you. [1:58:18, 1:58:18]: Yes. [1:58:19, 1:58:21]: Mr. Gardner, do you have something you need to add? [1:58:22, 1:58:26]: Uh no I think chief chief hit it on the head and it and it is standard operational. [1:58:27, 1:58:38]: operational procedures that they're engaging and it changes um as laws, new laws come about and new procedures. And and as Chief stated, you know, this is looked at from the state accreditation. [1:58:38, 1:58:39]: Bold. [1:58:39, 1:58:59]: Um as it relates to us becoming state certified, as he mentioned, only a few police departments are actually state certified with our ultimate goal of becoming CALIA, which is national certification, which brings another ball of wax in review by um the standards board at CALEAR. Um so this is this is typical in in most. [1:58:59, 1:59:11]: five police departments. It's their standard operational procedure, so it doesn't need to be approved by counsel. As Chief said, you you'll be going back and forth every time they change policies. It's just their standard operational procedures for [1:59:12, 1:59:20]: What is known as police departments, as you know, paramilitary departments, the death standards are a little bit above and beyond what you typically see in your regular HR. [1:59:20, 1:59:22]: Um policy manuals. [1:59:22, 1:59:24]: Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [1:59:25, 1:59:26]: Yeah, um [1:59:27, 1:59:29]: My concerns today wasn't about [1:59:30, 1:59:40]: The SOPs is how we're gonna implement those SOPs because uh I'm I'm pretty sure you're familiar, Chief Tramer, if not, it was probably before before your time. [1:59:40, 1:59:44]: Working under Deputy Chief Taylor with Sid Lannon and Deputy Chief uh Redding. [1:59:45, 2:00:05]: Each department even in itself would bring out would would would submit SOPs for different departments. So SOPs in itself are is standard for each department. My concern was, and I talked to you, Chief Tramer, uh, is how we how we would implement those SOPs and what and what guidelines and how how we we would [2:00:05, 2:00:13]: validate those SOP so uh you know talking to you and knowing how that works and I agree with Mr. Gardner SOPs and I would tell you all [2:00:13, 2:00:17]: Uh if you go sit down in the city of Atlanta headquarters. [2:00:17, 2:00:19]: You'll see'em come through uh [2:00:19, 2:00:31]: very often and and they would come through the police department from different departments. It's not just from the chief of police. They will come from the deputy chief of different so they they it's a it's a common practice. [2:00:31, 2:00:38]: And I just wanted to see how we would implement it. So I'm I I have peace of mind of what we're doing in that in that area. So uh I'm okay with that. [2:00:39, 2:00:41]: Mayor Pro Tem, Thomas, go ahead, please. [2:00:42, 2:00:50]: Uh Chief, uh I I have a little problem with with this process. Um I I I don't have a problem with [2:00:50, 2:00:57]: uh certifying in in the city of Stockbridge Police Department moving towards certification. [2:00:58, 2:01:01]: Um I would have appreciated. [2:01:01, 2:01:19]: uh this presentation before tonight because uh I like to be able to read presentations. I like to be able to call you and ask questions beforehand. I didn't get that opportunity so I'm gonna have to sort of uh say what I need to say uh right here and right now. [2:01:20, 2:01:31]: Just as you brought this before us tonight, I I I think this is is standard and and as you mentioned, I tried to make some notes. Uh you said that um [2:01:32, 2:01:40]: Um, every organization have policies and procedures, and the chief of police is responsible. [2:01:40, 2:01:45]: Well, as you said that the city council as the governing body [2:01:46, 2:01:50]: You know, we have uh policies and procedures as well. [2:01:50, 2:01:51]: And [2:01:52, 2:01:53]: My [2:01:54, 2:01:55]: Understand and [2:01:55, 2:01:56]: About [2:01:57, 2:01:59]: All departments under [2:01:59, 2:02:02]: The city of Stockbridge structure. [2:02:02, 2:02:09]: Um they fall into a realm of uh checks and balances. [2:02:09, 2:02:11]: Uh and oversight. [2:02:11, 2:02:12]: Um [2:02:13, 2:02:19]: It appears to me that uh some of that oversight is being taken away. [2:02:20, 2:02:22]: Um I I do agree with [2:02:23, 2:02:25]: Some of the uh intricate [2:02:25, 2:02:30]: uh levels of certification and that that's not what I'm I'm that I'm not talking about those kind of thing. [2:02:31, 2:02:32]: But to give [2:02:33, 2:02:35]: The police chief. [2:02:36, 2:02:38]: As a department head [2:02:38, 2:02:40]: the authority to [2:02:41, 2:02:42]: Um [2:02:42, 2:02:45]: create policies and procedure without [2:02:46, 2:02:55]: uh oversight and checks and balances. I I have a I have a problem with that. I I don't see the police department any different from [2:02:55, 2:02:57]: Any other department in [2:02:58, 2:03:00]: Under the umbrella of the city. [2:03:01, 2:03:03]: Um you have other directors. [2:03:04, 2:03:07]: And I just don't see how [2:03:07, 2:03:13]: The police department can operate any different from uh public works. [2:03:14, 2:03:17]: um community development as far as [2:03:18, 2:03:22]: uh policies and procedures and and it's all intricate. I I I get that. [2:03:22, 2:03:25]: But just as you present it tonight. [2:03:26, 2:03:32]: That's the way I would want to see it happen. And we don't have to get into all of the details for a certification. [2:03:33, 2:03:34]: But Chief, I I cannot [2:03:34, 2:03:36]: Um, I cannot approve. [2:03:37, 2:03:38]: Of a blanket. [2:03:39, 2:03:40]: uh authority [2:03:41, 2:03:44]: To write policies and procedure without [2:03:44, 2:03:49]: something coming before the council and and I think councilwoman get [2:03:49, 2:03:52]: So to hit on my concerns as well. [2:03:52, 2:03:54]: It's not that we're going to [2:03:55, 2:03:57]: Uh try to look at every sentence. [2:03:57, 2:04:01]: in a certification manual of uh or or every [2:04:02, 2:04:09]: Um, you know, requirement. No, I'm I'm not really talking about that, but I think it's it's a it's a standard where you [2:04:10, 2:04:11]: The star bridge [2:04:12, 2:04:20]: Uh, police department will have to come back to the council, just like any other organization or any other department. [2:04:20, 2:04:25]: um under the city. And I and I think we're we're we're threading on some dangerous grounds because [2:04:26, 2:04:28]: I think that any [2:04:28, 2:04:30]: uh department under the city structure. [2:04:31, 2:04:33]: can come back and say actually the same thing because [2:04:34, 2:04:38]: Public works, community development, all of those things are very intricate. [2:04:38, 2:04:48]: And so I'm just sort of having a problem with that. And and and I just wanna, I'm thinking about in the city of New York, uh stopping frisk. [2:04:48, 2:05:04]: Uh I'm thinking about no-knock warrants. Uh I'm thinking about um chokehos, uh uh speed traps. So I'm sort of thinking about those kind of things. And not to say that Frank Tremor would do that, but [2:05:04, 2:05:11]: It's not about personality, it's about the seat of Thaibridge Police Department. And so I'm having some problem with that. [2:05:12, 2:05:19]: as far as giving or signing off on uh giving the police chief that kind of authority. [2:05:19, 2:05:23]: To to write policies and procedures where I don't really think [2:05:23, 2:05:26]: That you act, I don't think you really need that. [2:05:27, 2:05:34]: I don't think you need that to go forward and do what you need to do. I just think that you need to come back before the council and just share. [2:05:35, 2:05:36]: Uh, we need to know. [2:05:37, 2:05:42]: See, when when things go around, things go wrong in a city of Thybridge for us policing. [2:05:43, 2:05:54]: It's gonna come back to the city council. It's not gonna come back to the chief or say, it's gonna come back to the city council and and and then looking at your request, uh it's [2:05:54, 2:05:56]: It says [2:05:56, 2:06:02]: authority to implement and then it goes on to with uh legal review. [2:06:03, 2:06:12]: It also bypasses the city manager. So I'm just a little concerned that that the city manager would not even. [2:06:12, 2:06:16]: Have an opportunity to lay eyes on [2:06:16, 2:06:31]: on on a document that's going to go through. I heard you say 600 pages. No, we're not going to read 600 pages. But I just think that it's something in the process that just does not sit well with me. And I don't think that you need [2:06:31, 2:06:32]: Um [2:06:32, 2:06:35]: That authority. I I can't give that authority. [2:06:36, 2:06:37]: Um [2:06:37, 2:06:41]: I I can't give that authority to create policies and procedure. [2:06:41, 2:06:44]: I I just think that it's something that you do as the chief. [2:06:45, 2:06:48]: And you bring it back to the council and and [2:06:49, 2:07:03]: And and I'm not saying like like uh the city manager mentioned that we'll be coming back every day, uh every year, all year, to look at various things that's gonna come before. And I'm not really talking about those things, but just in general. [2:07:04, 2:07:11]: Giving the chief of police the authority to create policies and procedures of the City of Stockbridge Police Department. [2:07:12, 2:07:15]: I just have a problem with that language. Um [2:07:15, 2:07:23]: Because if if if Mr. Aaron comes forward as the uh public works director asking the same question. [2:07:23, 2:07:25]: And looking for the same authority. [2:07:27, 2:07:29]: I I think we're creating a problem with that. [2:07:30, 2:07:40]: Um, and I don't know, I don't have the answer to get around it, but it just not it does just does not sit well with me to give the chief of police a set of Thy Bridge. [2:07:40, 2:07:43]: The authority to write policies and procedures. [2:07:43, 2:07:47]: When you also mentioned that many of these things are standard. [2:07:47, 2:08:07]: Um the 139 standards and all of the certification. This is standard. So I don't see how I don't see why the city of Stockbridge Police Department cannot move forward with all of the standards, with all of the certification, without the chief of police having the authority to. [2:08:07, 2:08:09]: to create policies and procedures. [2:08:12, 2:08:20]: And maybe you can explain that a little better. But again, and I wish going forward, uh, when you have these presentations, if you could get this information. [2:08:20, 2:08:22]: Uh to us before because [2:08:22, 2:08:32]: I would have called you before and I would ask you a hundred questions, but getting this right here and right now, that does not sit well with me uh either. [2:08:32, 2:08:42]: So and and and um I'm saying this to you, Mr. Garden, as well. Um, you as a city manager, you have to be about getting these presentations to us because I don't like [2:08:43, 2:08:46]: being able to uh have to ask these kind of questions. [2:08:47, 2:08:52]: at the meeting, I like to try to ask these questions offline to try to get an answer, but [2:08:52, 2:08:56]: Uh and maybe I'm just missing something, maybe I'm not understanding, but [2:08:56, 2:08:57]: Uh tonight [2:08:57, 2:09:00]: I cannot approve of this. I cannot. [2:09:00, 2:09:07]: Uh because it it just maybe I I don't understand, but just to give you that authority. [2:09:08, 2:09:09]: Um [2:09:10, 2:09:14]: It it just doesn't sit well with me because and I'm looking at policing. [2:09:15, 2:09:17]: In today's we're a police and [2:09:17, 2:09:18]: Um [2:09:19, 2:09:21]: It's very difficult. [2:09:21, 2:09:26]: And and when I look across this country and I see what police departments are doing. [2:09:27, 2:09:30]: Um I I have problem with that. [2:09:30, 2:09:36]: And I mentioned some of those before, uh no not warrants, uh choke, stopping frisk. [2:09:37, 2:09:42]: Um and I'm not saying that Frank Tremor will institute any of those, but [2:09:42, 2:10:02]: If you have that authority to create these policy procedures and you don't have to come before the council, then you may do that. Um, Willie Joe Jones, who may be the NAC police chief 15 years down the road, may come and just do that. So that's the problem that I saw to have. And it's not about personality, it's about the city of Stylebridge Police Department. [2:10:02, 2:10:03]: Army as a whole. [2:10:03, 2:10:10]: I I just I just have a problem with this and and I just be honest with you, I I can't approve of this tonight. I cannot. [2:10:10, 2:10:20]: Um, and I think that you can go forward and do what you indicated that you need to do as far as the standards, uh meeting all certifications. I I just think you can go forward and do that. [2:10:23, 2:10:27]: Yep. Mayor Proteum, I appreciate your concern, sir. And um [2:10:28, 2:10:29]: I apologize. Um [2:10:30, 2:10:34]: There they're I I don't know what additional documentation you're referring to. Um [2:10:34, 2:10:37]: The the presentation the presentation that you just made tonight. [2:10:38, 2:10:40]: Uh okay. The um [2:10:40, 2:10:44]: Uh I was trying to give some background and context on that, but [2:10:44, 2:10:44]: Um [2:10:45, 2:10:51]: To your point here, and I I will say this and you know, hopefully I'm not um hopefully I'm not out of bounds in terms of what I say. [2:10:51, 2:10:58]: It's my understanding, um, in other organizations I've worked at, uh, I understand the point that you're making in terms of disparity between [2:10:58, 2:11:02]: uh how we are moving forward with policies versus other departments, but [2:11:02, 2:11:09]: I I'm not certain in any of the cities that I've worked in that uh the the governing body's gotten into [2:11:09, 2:11:15]: um the policies and procedures of how public works or facilities or anybody else. Those are standard operating procedures. [2:11:16, 2:11:23]: that the directors and um that there is some oversight to the extent the city manager wishes to be involved in that process. [2:11:23, 2:11:28]: In implementing those procedures. If you look at Henry County, if you look at McDonough PD at Locust Grove. [2:11:28, 2:11:34]: and any of the police departments to include Clayton County and some others who who are certified agencies. [2:11:34, 2:11:40]: that the authority is vested in the chief of police to implement those policies and procedures. So this isn't something that's foreign. [2:11:40, 2:11:46]: This isn't something that uh we're trying to do that's new. I certainly understand your concerns as it relates to the issues. [2:11:46, 2:11:53]: Just so you know, um, we're concerned about the same issues you are as well, and that's the certifying body. [2:11:53, 2:11:56]: um that dictates things like we're not going to do chokeholds. [2:11:57, 2:12:00]: We have to have clear policies on no knock warrants. [2:12:00, 2:12:05]: Um that we have to have restrictive pursuit policies. It's the accreditation standards that [2:12:06, 2:12:15]: hold an organization to those standards that meet state and national best practices in terms of how we're to operate. And so by virtue of adopting [2:12:15, 2:12:18]: state and national standards, I think we're in very good standing. [2:12:18, 2:12:23]: Uh it's not that we're trying to be secretive or we're trying to hold off on anything. It's really [2:12:23, 2:12:35]: from the standpoint of of the the amount of time, effort, energy would be required, and we have to be able to to pivot and make changes. So if I don't have the authority, and we may be talking broadly about use of force. [2:12:35, 2:12:42]: But when we implement a change, let's say to the uniform and how we're gonna wear the uniform, that has to be reflected in our policy. [2:12:42, 2:12:49]: To make that change, we would have to bring something as simple as that back before council if I didn't have the authority to be able to make those changes. [2:12:50, 2:12:53]: And furthermore, there are some changes. There are organizations [2:12:53, 2:12:58]: that had within their policy that they could implement neck restraints. [2:12:59, 2:13:00]: And [2:13:00, 2:13:02]: If the police chief [2:13:02, 2:13:07]: had to bring it before council to eliminate that as a practice, then we're talking about [2:13:08, 2:13:23]: delays in in in implementing something where I can't say, you know what, I'm drafting up a pro policy and starting today, we're not doing chokeholds anymore. I've got to wait two, four, six weeks to bring that to council to do something that really could potentially save somebody's life. [2:13:24, 2:13:26]: So I have to be able to make those changes. [2:13:26, 2:13:30]: Uh as we identify those changes and I hope that you have the trust and faith. [2:13:30, 2:13:34]: that what we're doing is moving forward in a positive direction here and and um [2:13:35, 2:13:39]: Um that that still may not address your concern, Mayor Pro Tem, but I at least just wanted to um [2:13:40, 2:13:41]: What's the statement? [2:13:41, 2:13:47]: Well, I I mean I I do understand that point when you mentioned about the uniform, those kind of things. [2:13:48, 2:13:51]: But I think there has to be a way. [2:13:51, 2:13:54]: That we can move forward with [2:13:54, 2:13:56]: Uh creating [2:13:57, 2:13:58]: Um [2:13:58, 2:14:02]: all that is needed for the city of Stybridge Police Department. [2:14:02, 2:14:03]: Um [2:14:04, 2:14:05]: I don't [2:14:05, 2:14:09]: I I guess in my mind I don't see what would prevent you from [2:14:10, 2:14:11]: Doin' [2:14:11, 2:14:15]: Some of the things that you just need to do. [2:14:15, 2:14:16]: Um [2:14:18, 2:14:22]: I I just don't see what would prevent you from just doing some of those things. [2:14:22, 2:14:40]: I just think that, you know, and and this should have been discussed um way before now. Uh and even with the review board that we talked about, you know, uh July is is is here pretty much, and we have not even sort of touched on that. [2:14:40, 2:14:41]: Um [2:14:41, 2:15:00]: I'm just having some problem with this, Chief. Just to be honest with you. I I think if we could have sort of got into this a little bit more, uh a little bit more in detail, I think we could have flushed this out. I think we could have streamlined it. So if you're talking about having the authority to create certain policies and procedures. [2:15:00, 2:15:02]: I think we'll be okay with that. [2:15:02, 2:15:05]: But just to give a blanket. [2:15:06, 2:15:07]: Авто [2:15:08, 2:15:15]: That I guess that's the problem that I have, just giving a blanket authority for one person. [2:15:15, 2:15:35]: uh the department head just to go ahead and just do what they want to do. Uh it sort of just boils down to that. And and again, I go back to other department heads. And I think we have to be very cautious on how we treat all departments of the city because the the Stockbridge Police Department it falls under the umbrella [2:15:35, 2:15:37]: Umbrella of the city government. [2:15:37, 2:15:50]: And I think we have to sort of be cautious on how we treat all of these department, how we treat all department heads, and how we have to be fair and allow, you know, for oversight and checks and balances. And so. [2:15:51, 2:15:55]: I do know and understand that in policing. [2:15:55, 2:15:57]: There has to be some checks and balances. [2:15:57, 2:16:00]: And I think the governing body [2:16:00, 2:16:02]: Is that body that does that? [2:16:02, 2:16:04]: Now we don't have to get into [2:16:05, 2:16:08]: the fine aligns of all of the details. [2:16:09, 2:16:23]: But Chief, there must be some checks and balances of the governing body with this police department. We hold the city manager accountable and you're bypassing the city manager. [2:16:23, 2:16:25]: So I I even have a problem with that. [2:16:29, 2:16:31]: All right. Um Mrs. Gardner, go ahead, please. [2:16:34, 2:16:36]: You you muted, Mr. Gardner. You muted, sir. [2:16:38, 2:16:42]: Uh hopefully like if I say this in the right way and it doesn't come across wrong. I mean [2:16:44, 2:16:48]: The policies in public works as it relates to treatment of water, May and Council does not approve that. [2:16:50, 2:16:57]: That's done administratively and any requirements to change the percentage of chlorine or whatever. [2:16:57, 2:17:01]: You guys don't get in the weeds with that that's done and state mandated and state reviewed. [2:17:02, 2:17:03]: Chief just said the same thing. [2:17:04, 2:17:05]: Uh [2:17:07, 2:17:07]: Sorry. [2:17:07, 2:17:19]: No, no, go ahead, sir. I'm I'm just gonna make a comment based on what you just said, but let me just stop you right there. See, that's when I said there was 139 standards and there's uh uh certification. [2:17:20, 2:17:27]: So I agree with that. And I think that's what you just said. So we're not gonna get into weeds on the standards and certification. [2:17:27, 2:17:29]: No, but what what I'm saying is [2:17:29, 2:17:33]: And so what what changes um Mayor Potem is [2:17:34, 2:17:34]: You you [2:17:35, 2:17:44]: The chief wouldn't know which policies should come, which change in the policy should come and which shouldn't come. Should uniform, just the way uniform is displayed come? [2:17:44, 2:17:49]: Maybe not. But then at the same time, if they're implementing [2:17:49, 2:18:05]: any of the and chief you can speak to this um under president obama most police department went to the 21st century model of policing a lot of them did the one in east point we did those policies were adopted just like you said through the chief of police who is the subject matter expert [2:18:05, 2:18:10]: And council has to have the fate and trust in its in in the people that they hire. [2:18:10, 2:18:13]: To do the right thing. And the oversight is if [2:18:14, 2:18:17]: Chief does violate those rules and regulations. [2:18:17, 2:18:22]: The standards board come down on them and any police officer that abuse it gets put in jail. [2:18:23, 2:18:26]: Well let me let me ask you, Mr. Gardner, in his point. [2:18:26, 2:18:35]: You as a city manager, did you have an opportunity to to see that, to see those? Did your city council have an opportunity to see those? [2:18:35, 2:18:38]: City Council know what the Obama administration. [2:18:38, 2:18:43]: They never approved. Chief brought it as part of his five-year plan, but they did not approve. [2:18:44, 2:18:46]: The standard operating procedures for [2:18:46, 2:18:49]: But did they see but did they but did they see those? [2:18:50, 2:18:52]: Um [2:18:52, 2:18:54]: No, they did not review them. No. [2:18:55, 2:18:58]: Um, they saw him as part of his presentation. [2:18:58, 2:19:02]: that this is the way we were going as a replace to new standards in policing. [2:19:03, 2:19:08]: um which governs these things around chokes and um chases and so forth. [2:19:09, 2:19:19]: Um and it gets even more in depth than that. I think of the chief, correct me if I'm wrong, I think it's 15 modules each point had before I left had adopted all but two of them. [2:19:19, 2:19:23]: uh were in the process of doing a review on the two that they hadn't adopted as of the time I left. [2:19:24, 2:19:25]: Um [2:19:25, 2:19:34]: But this this is whole wholly with the chief of police in order for him to manage what is unlike any other department because they're not all made the same. [2:19:34, 2:19:37]: The police department is a paramilitary organization. [2:19:38, 2:19:58]: Whether you believe it or not, it is. They have chain of command that's totally different. Rules and responsibility. That's totally different from any other department outside of a fire department. That is the closest. I will say, Mr. Garden, you know, just this conversation helps me uh somewhat. I wish we could have had this uh a little before. And I just say going [2:19:58, 2:20:05]: forward. I just think this is the way we should operate um before the city council meeting. That's why I said chief, if you could always [2:20:06, 2:20:17]: So to get something to counsel beforehand and we could call you up and you could, you know, you could give us a lecture, you can give us all of the details and those kind of things so we can understand. [2:20:17, 2:20:29]: I'm sorry. And and I do and I do get that how policing is is different from another department, but it is. And and and and realize in any time any of those officers violate those policies. [2:20:29, 2:20:32]: then not only can be determined just from the city itself. [2:20:32, 2:20:34]: But they're they're open liable. [2:20:35, 2:20:39]: Um, unlike any other department, um, they're open liable to be in jail. [2:20:40, 2:20:47]: um for for violating policies. Um and so the checks and balances are there. Um [2:20:48, 2:20:54]: Will I read all six hundred pages? No, but I will check it in reference to what I know as part of [2:20:54, 2:21:02]: the twenty first century policing module. And I now mind you, yes, we've had been now on our second president since Obama, but that was one of the groundbreaking um [2:21:03, 2:21:06]: movements in policing across the country. [2:21:06, 2:21:08]: Um and so [2:21:08, 2:21:10]: You know, as Chief stated, I mean, we're [2:21:11, 2:21:28]: We're going to move prudent with with our policies and and stuff as we go. Like I said, most departments that have standard operating procedures within their departments, those are not approved by Mayor Council. I mean, Mayor Council is the legislative body, but you you turn the operations over to a manager under the council manager form of government. [2:21:28, 2:21:33]: And if we had to do that, it's that's micromanaging operations and nothing gets done. [2:21:33, 2:21:43]: Because then you gotta get four, five, six, seven, nine people, depending on how big your council is, to agree on what should be standard operating procedures for a department when [2:21:43, 2:21:47]: Nine times out of ten, those folks in our subject matter expert or anywhere near close. [2:21:48, 2:21:52]: No, I I no no I I agree with that whole holiday. Yeah, so it's just [2:21:53, 2:21:59]: Okay. Council member Councilmember, you you you have to have some faith in in the staff. [2:22:00, 2:22:03]: uh to do their jobs and when we don't [2:22:03, 2:22:14]: You hold us responsible. That's the way it works under the Council Manager Former Government is you hold me and you hold the chief responsible if if if there are things that go awry. [2:22:14, 2:22:29]: And and if those things aren't measured meted out and measured, then we do things wrong. And I and I've said this to a few of you guys. Well I guess the problem that I have with with that statement is uh just let me just hypothetical. [2:22:29, 2:22:31]: Uh Frank Tram is here. [2:22:31, 2:22:40]: For a couple years, and he decides to move on to another jurisdiction, and someone else comes in and then. [2:22:41, 2:22:49]: This person might have a whole different uh frame set, mind frame set, and then we have to go through that. But I I mean, I get it. I'm not gonna hog the rest of the meeting with that. [2:22:49, 2:22:59]: Um I wish I would have been able to have had this information beforehand and had that discussion. Understood. Understood, Councillor Council. [2:22:59, 2:23:03]: I'll I'll let some of the other council members out of way in. Uh [2:23:04, 2:23:05]: It just [2:23:05, 2:23:08]: I I just thought of have a problem with that. Um [2:23:10, 2:23:28]: with with this the with this process and I'm gonna let some of the other council members weigh in and I may have um a rebuttal here shortly but uh it j it just not sitting well with me right now because I I think policing today is is is just like you mentioned [2:23:28, 2:23:31]: Um it it's not easy. I know. [2:23:31, 2:23:35]: Um and they and it can be problematic if you don't [2:23:35, 2:23:46]: for if you don't put you know forward thinking into it. But I'm gonna yield man that's another council. Good deal. Council, council, stand by. Stand by, council. Mr. Berry, you had your hand up earlier. [2:23:47, 2:23:51]: Yeah, turning well yeah, I mean I took it down. I was just merely gonna offer the the [2:23:52, 2:23:56]: From the lawyer's perspective, and I I dealt with this at the city of Atlanta. [2:23:56, 2:24:05]: When I was there and and Atlanta City Council did not approve the Atlanta Police Department handbook or policies or procedures at all. [2:24:05, 2:24:11]: The only time that I ever dealt with it is arising out of a two thousand nine lawsuit that was pending for years. [2:24:11, 2:24:13]: over a failed raid at a nightclub. [2:24:14, 2:24:17]: But when a council approves policies [2:24:17, 2:24:21]: In the horrible and unfortunate situation that something goes wrong. [2:24:21, 2:24:25]: Such as a you know person dying in a a police chase. [2:24:25, 2:24:29]: I don't know if if Chief Chairman's gonna institute a no chase policy or [2:24:29, 2:24:30]: Someone is shot. [2:24:31, 2:24:32]: Or restrained and they die. [2:24:33, 2:24:36]: If council has approved those policies. [2:24:36, 2:24:39]: Council is then saying that is the stamp we [2:24:39, 2:24:42]: Approve these policies on behalf of the city. [2:24:42, 2:24:43]: And it makes them [2:24:44, 2:24:46]: sort of more legally binding. [2:24:46, 2:24:49]: As opposed to if they're just policies that Chief Tramor has signed off on. [2:24:50, 2:24:54]: So there may actually be very good reason for council to not approve policies. [2:24:54, 2:24:57]: To frankly immunize or protect council. [2:24:57, 2:24:59]: Or protect the city itself. [2:24:59, 2:25:02]: As not having signed off on policies. [2:25:02, 2:25:03]: So I understand. [2:25:04, 2:25:06]: Mayor Protem Thomas of course. [2:25:06, 2:25:09]: And everybody's desire to be involved with the policies, and I I [2:25:10, 2:25:13]: would encourage regardless of this outcome of the this vote or conversation. [2:25:13, 2:25:15]: To speak to Chief Tramor. [2:25:15, 2:25:21]: uh to understand the various policies and and uh the city manager of what may or may not be implemented. [2:25:21, 2:25:24]: But in terms of council giving its its seal of approval. [2:25:25, 2:25:30]: That creates all sorts of legal liabilities for council in the city that I'm not sure you you may actually want. [2:25:30, 2:25:33]: In the unfortunate situation that someone dies or [2:25:33, 2:25:45]: Or, you know, something like that happens with the city. So I just wanted to come at it from a different perspective and offer legal advice. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. So stand by. Thank you, sir. Mr. Alexander, go ahead, please. [2:25:45, 2:25:53]: Yes. Uh this conversation's been very interesting. And then just uh listening to the points of Mayor Pro Tin, we have a lot of [2:25:53, 2:25:58]: uh you know, information coming our way. Certainly the council wants to be [2:25:58, 2:26:08]: uh in terms of uh understanding what the policies and procedures are. And uh I think uh what really i it is is that once these um [2:26:09, 2:26:14]: policies and procedures are approved according to those guidelines. [2:26:14, 2:26:18]: Actually, if we did involve ourselves, it might compromise. [2:26:18, 2:26:22]: the actual uh certification process itself. [2:26:22, 2:26:28]: Because they're looking to uh from what I understand that these templates are being used. [2:26:28, 2:26:30]: As best practices from [2:26:30, 2:26:33]: uh manuals and established professionals who've done this. [2:26:34, 2:26:38]: And certainly with some of the legal rulings in the state of Georgia. [2:26:39, 2:26:59]: involving ourselves, put ourselves at legal legal jeopardy and for us to be personally sued for setting a particular policy, whereas if the chief sets the policy, then I uh I perfectly understand uh where he's going because you know with the with the Brookhaven situation with the city manager. [2:26:59, 2:27:02]: Uh and uh a staff member uh now [2:27:03, 2:27:06]: In two ho two hundred thousand dollars in legal jeopardy. [2:27:06, 2:27:14]: I certainly don't think any of us want to find ourselves in that position. And I think that's the thing that we certainly have to be cognizant of and certainly [2:27:15, 2:27:19]: uh need to be uh reviewed upon. I I certainly want to look at [2:27:19, 2:27:29]: some of the things that we talked about previously, such as uh the citizens council or review board to be able to uh have to make sure that the people [2:27:29, 2:27:34]: the people are heard from and that they uh uh have a voice at the table. [2:27:35, 2:27:46]: Now we certainly represent the voice, but the people need their own voice and the citizen review counselor board actually does that. So hand in hand with allowing the chief to have this. [2:27:46, 2:27:47]: particular authority. [2:27:48, 2:28:08]: We certainly need to make sure that we're moving forward with the citizens' uh review board and tasking the city manager or legal to put that together to make sure that the citizens. And the first thing that the chief said to us is that he wanted to make sure that this was in partnership with the citizens. And that's that's [2:28:07, 2:28:21]: what we'll do. We'll certainly make sure that he is the uh you know the professional and the uh expert in terms of what's happening but he needs uh he needs uh to hear from [2:28:21, 2:28:23]: Those individuals on the review board. [2:28:24, 2:28:28]: Uh, so that he uh stays very well connected to the community, as I'm sure. [2:28:29, 2:28:30]: Uh, he intends to do. [2:28:31, 2:28:33]: So that is the second piece of the puzzle. [2:28:33, 2:28:36]: uh the citizens review board to go along with. [2:28:36, 2:28:41]: Allowing the chief, which is to follow what is standards. So it sounds like from what I've heard so far. [2:28:42, 2:28:43]: If we went outside that [2:28:43, 2:28:45]: We would be the outlier. [2:28:46, 2:28:58]: in terms of where we're going versus what everybody else is doing. And in this line of work, I certainly don't want it said that I I signed off on a policy that cost somebody their life. [2:28:58, 2:29:02]: And I'm not an expert on this is of d these particular areas, so [2:29:02, 2:29:22]: Um in terms of I think when the past mayor we had uh uh what maybe like some type of review on a yearly basis, maybe some committee type of situation on the staff side uh for the city side to look at. Uh we had the public safety committee uh from the city side where they gave us some type. [2:29:22, 2:29:26]: to you know some regular updates and reviews to look at [2:29:26, 2:29:29]: In terms of that, but I don't want to put my hand in that pot of [2:29:30, 2:29:32]: Where we're going in terms of actually. [2:29:32, 2:29:35]: uh oh these policies so [2:29:35, 2:29:45]: Certainly I I I I came in with an open mind to look at this, but based on the conversation that I've heard tonight, I certainly don't wanna put myself in a position of being [2:29:46, 2:29:49]: uh ac l le uh legally um [2:29:50, 2:30:10]: uh at at risk for a policy that uh the city sets. Yeah. Well I will tell you a citizen review board is a great thing. I know we'll do and we'll end up doing that, implementing that process. But the other thing is uh the the police department is a subset to the council. So otherwise the department has so I would think on a quarterly basis the police chief will come before the council [2:30:10, 2:30:21]: anyway and give some type of update and briefing and that'd be appropriate time, I would imagine, ask any questions or get some type of feedback or conversation about those policies and procedures anyway. Just have some open discussion. So I would imagine. [2:30:22, 2:30:26]: And it's something that we look at a quarterly basis. On that note, Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [2:30:27, 2:30:31]: Thank you, Mayor. Um w one of the things we have to continue to look at. [2:30:32, 2:30:41]: Is that when we ask any department, you you you got something we op that's operational for us, and then you have a uh what you what I would call [2:30:41, 2:30:45]: You know, a whole different entity that this city hasn't had since we've been here. [2:30:45, 2:30:53]: And that's what you ask for in ordinary is a is a policy procedure uh manual. That's what the chiefs get ready to implement. [2:30:54, 2:31:02]: And when those policies have to change, I don't need to know that they that the Chiefs are gonna change a policy where they have to button the shirts up all the way to the net. [2:31:02, 2:31:17]: All of these kind of things. We should not get into micromanaging those policies and procedures. And I agree with Mr. Gardner, I agree with Mr. Alexander and whoever said uh said that we have to be carefully cautious that we're not micromanaging any department here. [2:31:18, 2:31:24]: Policies and this the the presentation was a policy procedures uh for a manual. [2:31:24, 2:31:26]: The chief has to create this manual. [2:31:27, 2:31:47]: And periodically an SOP has to go out when things change, when he sees something that needs to be implemented. And let me tell you something, one of the things about policing and chief uh chief training, you can correct me. If he go outside the guidelines of any standard operating procedures that would uh uh be a conflict to state or federal laws, they could lose their post certifications. [2:31:47, 2:31:53]: So it's not just just the city of Stockbridge they couldn't work for. They they won't be post-certified. [2:31:53, 2:32:01]: And you correct me if I'm wrong, Chief. So we have to trust the staff that we put in place that they're going to do what's the what they what they're asked to do. [2:32:01, 2:32:15]: And that's to create policies and procedures. If Mr. Aaron comes to us and tell us public works in certain areas, he's gonna create a policy that certain areas need two uh storm drains instead of one. Who is this counsel to say they don't know anything about it? Yes or no? [2:32:16, 2:32:19]: Who was to say about policing if you don't know, yes or no? [2:32:20, 2:32:28]: So updates is is is updates are really what we need to be getting from the police chief, whether whether it's quarter or however that comes. [2:32:28, 2:32:37]: Instead of sitting back and saying we're going to approve or disapprove a policy that could that can move the department forward, that's what we have a city manager for. That's what we got different staff for. [2:32:38, 2:32:42]: We as a council have to sit back and allow the people like the you know, like what was that whoever said it. [2:32:43, 2:32:47]: To do what we hired'em for. And if it doesn't do what we hired'em for, then we put somebody else in that position. [2:32:48, 2:32:55]: But we have to give that person the opportunity to use every tool and and use the knowledge they have to move this city forward in those various departments. [2:32:56, 2:33:05]: And if certain positive procedures, I got a clear understanding when I talk to you, Mr. Trama, uh Chief Trayman today. I I got a clear understanding when I talk to you, Mr. Gardner today. [2:33:06, 2:33:11]: So you got questions, just ask those questions. But we have to step aside and let those professionals that we have hired. [2:33:12, 2:33:14]: And that we're paying to do a job, let them do the job. [2:33:15, 2:33:17]: So I'm I'm I'm ready to approve this tonight. [2:33:18, 2:33:19]: Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [2:33:24, 2:33:25]: Thank you, Mayor. [2:33:26, 2:33:27]: Okay, first thing. [2:33:28, 2:33:37]: Chief Tramor, through that organization for your standard policies and procedures, you mentioned a 20% insurance discount. [2:33:38, 2:33:41]: That's correct. If we if we were to move over to Gurma. [2:33:42, 2:33:49]: for is the insurance provider would be eligible by virtue of certification for a twenty percent uh decrease on our insurance premiums. [2:33:50, 2:33:52]: Through Gurma. [2:33:52, 2:33:59]: So have we um compared that cost with what our existing cost is? [2:34:01, 2:34:04]: No, that's that's unfortunately way outside of my wheelhouse. [2:34:05, 2:34:06]: Okay, Mr. Gardner. [2:34:08, 2:34:10]: Can we compare the costs? [2:34:11, 2:34:17]: of what it would be under Garma versus what we currently have. [2:34:17, 2:34:22]: So so the police department will carry liability insurance. [2:34:22, 2:34:24]: Um and I will tell you that. [2:34:25, 2:34:33]: Um, with the insurance under Gurma, it will be cheaper than if we go out on the wholesale market for that risk insurance. [2:34:33, 2:34:35]: Um that's that's a given. [2:34:35, 2:34:43]: Um rarely do they rarely are they able to match um what they're doing through grammar because it's as and grammar is true GME. [2:34:44, 2:34:46]: Um, which is the Georgia Municipal Association. [2:34:47, 2:34:50]: Um but currently I thought that [2:34:50, 2:35:00]: We're insured we're insured different. We're insured through the open market. If that's if it is the wish of council to want us to to ask us to address or to investigate. [2:35:01, 2:35:03]: moving to to Grma. [2:35:04, 2:35:13]: um through GMA, um we would gladly do that and bring that back to to council if that's a wish. But we we hadn't moved in that direction as of yet. Um [2:35:14, 2:35:19]: Obviously because we're probably still on our current liability contract, but I will get with [2:35:19, 2:35:23]: Um Vanessa to find out because at some point when we bring this on. [2:35:24, 2:35:27]: One of the recommendations you guys would get for me, um [2:35:27, 2:35:30]: before the end of the month as I finish my three months here. [2:35:31, 2:35:35]: Is that we're going to have to look at bringing on a a professional risk manager. [2:35:35, 2:35:42]: Um, as we grow our department police department, because they will have fender benders, they will get involved in accidents. [2:35:43, 2:35:47]: Um that's just a given that that's happens everywhere and that level of risk. [2:35:48, 2:35:52]: Um even as we do public works, take home all public works projects, same thing. [2:35:52, 2:36:03]: Um, that risk goes up and we have to make sure that we're mitigating our risk. And that manager has to be out on site in some cases to make sure that they're following rules and proceedings as it relates to safety. [2:36:03, 2:36:04]: Um so [2:36:05, 2:36:08]: We will investigate that if that's the wish of council to [2:36:09, 2:36:13]: um quickly offset and say Mr Garden investigate that, we will definitely do that. [2:36:14, 2:36:29]: Absolutely. Um that's the only way I will approve this. I want us to be able to compare the costs. Um just just so that we know. Um and that's a side and and and and council member, that's a that's a that's a side a subset of I mean what Chief is is doing. [2:36:29, 2:36:49]: Um that once we put these policies and procedures in in place, yes, we will get a reduction. Um, no different than if we had a fire department and our fire department institute along with public works and the water um standards, we can change our ISO rating would have gone from whatever that number was, a four to a one, and that of [2:36:49, 2:36:56]: affects every homeowner and every every business that carry liability insurance in the city as a whole. [2:36:56, 2:37:00]: So Henry County guides that. I think uh Henry County is a ISO one. [2:37:00, 2:37:01]: Um [2:37:01, 2:37:03]: I think there may be either one or two. [2:37:03, 2:37:04]: Um [2:37:04, 2:37:10]: And that helps each and any each each and every individual homeowner and business. Um here. [2:37:11, 2:37:21]: that liability helps us. And so we'll in we'll look at that and investigate and talk to GMA about what it would take to participate under Gurm under the Gurman program. Um I know when I was in [2:37:22, 2:37:24]: Uh East Point we did not. Um [2:37:25, 2:37:26]: McDonough, we were [2:37:26, 2:37:27]: Um [2:37:28, 2:37:30]: Griffin, we were on the Gurma. [2:37:30, 2:37:32]: Um, Villarica, we will not. [2:37:32, 2:37:38]: Um and uh obviously Henry County was ACCG and then the rest of my experience was out of state. [2:37:38, 2:37:45]: But definitely we are looking to that to see if we could get involved with that and potentially lower our our risk insurance. [2:37:45, 2:37:51]: Okay, I'd like to make a motion for that after we finish the discussion of this item. [2:37:52, 2:37:53]: Um [2:37:53, 2:37:54]: My [2:37:54, 2:37:57]: Second uh question I wanted to ask Chief Tramer. [2:37:58, 2:38:00]: Um the other cities in Henry County. [2:38:01, 2:38:04]: Are they all governed or regulated by the same? [2:38:04, 2:38:05]: Organization. [2:38:05, 2:38:07]: Or someone else. [2:38:09, 2:38:13]: I I would have to look specifically. I mean, I could get you that information. Um [2:38:15, 2:38:23]: Here in short order, just by virtue of a quick search. I believe that uh Henry County is a state accredited agency. I believe that McDonough is. I'm not [2:38:23, 2:38:24]: Henry County's not. [2:38:25, 2:38:28]: No, McDonough, I don't know, I'm not sure if McDonough is in the county, yes. [2:38:29, 2:38:34]: I know Chief Chief Preston was working towards that when I was there with the city of McDonald, but I don't know if they ever got it. [2:38:40, 2:38:45]: Okay, miss uh Miss Barber, he's gonna check that out. If you if that's your last question, I'm gonna move on. [2:38:46, 2:38:48]: A few more actually, if I may. Um [2:38:49, 2:38:51]: So it was my understanding. [2:38:51, 2:38:52]: Um [2:38:52, 2:38:55]: Чиф Тремор уз гана брис полісі то. [2:38:56, 2:38:57]: Earlier this year. [2:38:57, 2:39:00]: uh or the latter part of last year. [2:39:00, 2:39:04]: We wanted to hold off until we got a new city manager on board. [2:39:04, 2:39:06]: Mr. Gardner is here now. So I'd much [2:39:07, 2:39:08]: I would feel comfortable. [2:39:09, 2:39:15]: knowing that at least the city manager has eyes on this whenever there are changes that are [2:39:15, 2:39:16]: Bing Bang. [2:39:17, 2:39:20]: Um the other question that I have though. [2:39:20, 2:39:21]: Is vehicle [2:39:21, 2:39:23]: Вігал юз. [2:39:23, 2:39:26]: Is that also a part of this policy? [2:39:27, 2:39:28]: Or is that separate? [2:39:29, 2:39:40]: Yes, that was that was separately approved by council if you recall. We had to do that because we had to make a decision on that from a you know from a recruiting standpoint. But that policy basically would be included within the overall. [2:39:41, 2:39:42]: Police Department policy. [2:39:42, 2:39:50]: Gotcha. So that lets me know that there are certain aspects of this policy that will need to come to the council. [2:39:50, 2:39:53]: For us to review and approve. [2:39:53, 2:39:55]: Um the V. [2:39:55, 2:39:57]: Uh I'm sorry, Councilwoman, please. [2:39:59, 2:40:07]: I was just going to say that was the reason for the uh the financial threshold there. Obviously, I'm not in a position to obligate the city to [2:40:08, 2:40:15]: Um you know, anything by virtue of implementing a policy to say, hey, we're gonna do this, and then there's a financial ramification to that. [2:40:16, 2:40:25]: as is the case with a take home vehicle. I can't say, well, we're gonna have a take home vehicle policy and we're gonna give take home vehicles. That's gonna cost the city, you know, X, Y, Z and dollars. [2:40:25, 2:40:31]: So um I was intentional in the wording there to ensure that anything that had a financial impact. [2:40:31, 2:40:38]: uh greater than my ability to be able to approve that that would then have to come before the council for consideration. [2:40:39, 2:40:40]: Gotcha. [2:40:40, 2:40:44]: Um and the last thing I want to put out. So [2:40:44, 2:40:51]: Explain again um the difference between the Citizens Advisory Board and the Citizens Review Board. [2:40:51, 2:40:56]: Um, I believe it's important at this time the council uh needs to enact. [2:40:56, 2:40:59]: Um one of these or both of these boards. [2:41:00, 2:41:01]: Möporn går det. [2:41:01, 2:41:08]: Stand by, stand by please. What's the point of this is not the agenda item. [2:41:09, 2:41:11]: Well the item was protected. [2:41:12, 2:41:14]: Therefore. Yes, ma'am. [2:41:14, 2:41:19]: I said patiently everybody to talk to Go ahead and ask your question. Go ahead and ask your question now. Go ahead. [2:41:20, 2:41:24]: Um Chief Tramer, can you please explain? [2:41:24, 2:41:29]: the difference between the citizen advisory board and the citizen review board. [2:41:31, 2:41:31]: So [2:41:32, 2:41:34]: A a a review board actually [2:41:35, 2:41:36]: Um in [2:41:36, 2:41:40]: The attorneys you can chime in and help out with this if you want to, if I misstate this, but [2:41:41, 2:41:49]: Uh a review board actually has the ability to make recommendations for disciplinary actions and things along those lines. [2:41:49, 2:41:54]: An advisory board is more of an oversight board. It's an opportunity for citizens to [2:41:55, 2:41:58]: way into to be involved in terms of policy development. [2:41:58, 2:42:03]: and and uh things that impact public safety in the community. [2:42:03, 2:42:07]: But there's there there's nothing binding um [2:42:08, 2:42:10]: per se as it relates to them. So [2:42:10, 2:42:22]: That that's I guess I would simplify that. Attorney Berry, did you wanna or attorney Washington? Correct Chief. Uh council member, the advisory board, as Chief said, is is input on policies and you know whatever else. [2:42:22, 2:42:24]: The chief of the police or [2:42:24, 2:42:28]: City manager or council members, whoever wanna go to the the Citizens Review Board. [2:42:29, 2:42:34]: as the name suggests, actually reviews conduct of officers uh or incidents. [2:42:35, 2:42:37]: So it's it's uh [2:42:37, 2:42:41]: You know, determining whether there was a violation or anything happened improper. [2:42:42, 2:42:43]: Um [2:42:44, 2:42:48]: Yeah, rather than providing input to the to the police. [2:42:50, 2:42:51]: Thank you. [2:42:51, 2:42:51]: Yeah. [2:42:51, 2:42:57]: And if I could to that point, I know Mayor Pro Tem, you mentioned earlier that we talked about that. [2:42:57, 2:43:03]: And that it's not come to fruition. And I just want to make sure everybody, including the citizens that are listening tonight. [2:43:03, 2:43:10]: They know that we're gonna make good on our promises for those advisory councils to bring the community together, be involved in the process of co-producing public safety. [2:43:11, 2:43:18]: Uh we have been, uh I promise you, hard at work at trying to stand this police department up to have it operational for July first. [2:43:18, 2:43:23]: And um there's a lot of work, a lot of work that goes on behind the scenes. [2:43:23, 2:43:28]: Um in a lot of things that we're trying to move forward. And so uh in terms of prioritizing work. [2:43:29, 2:43:34]: We are first off making sure that we can meet that promise we made to the citizens of July first implementation. [2:43:35, 2:43:41]: So there is again a tremendous amount of effort and um different things that have to be done in order to make this happen. [2:43:41, 2:43:44]: And so I just want to make it um clear. [2:43:44, 2:43:46]: that we are we are [2:43:46, 2:43:51]: as committed as ever is involving this community in that process. And because things haven't happened. [2:43:51, 2:43:56]: Um, as quickly as we might like, I just want to make sure that that commitment is known. [2:43:57, 2:44:00]: Thank you, Chief. Ms. Barber, is that your last question? [2:44:00, 2:44:20]: Actually, I wanted to make um a series of motions if I can. Well, could you stand by please? If we still got a few other things. Mr. Ms. uh Chief, were you able to find out that information about those other cities and whether or not they're certified yet? Yes, sir, I was. The only city in Henry County that is not uh state certified is Locust Grove at the moment. [2:44:20, 2:44:21]: And then of course. [2:44:22, 2:44:27]: we would have to go through that process to become it's a process to be state certified, but we certainly want to move towards that. [2:44:28, 2:44:35]: I do want to be the only city in Henry County who's Calia certified as we move forward towards national certification. [2:44:35, 2:44:40]: Um, that's a goal of ours. And so we want to be uh leading the charge as it relates to that, which means that. [2:44:41, 2:44:48]: Not just 139 standards. Now we have two hundred and seventy some odd standards that now we adhere to that are national best practices. [2:44:49, 2:44:52]: Okay. Ms. Gantt, go ahead, please. [2:44:53, 2:45:07]: Thank you. Um, Chief, I did read on US Department of Justice Office of Community Oriented Policing while this was all going on, I was researching um, because we did get this kind of last minute. [2:45:07, 2:45:15]: And I think it's unusual that we, you know, get titles and and not actual the actual policy, regardless of the amount of pages it is. [2:45:15, 2:45:17]: Um that we have access to it. [2:45:18, 2:45:19]: But um [2:45:19, 2:45:26]: Based off of the United States Department of Justice and that community office policing of starting up a new police department, it does state. [2:45:26, 2:45:29]: That the police chief does implement. [2:45:29, 2:45:36]: And write those policies. Um, that's all I really wanted to know at the time when I originally asked, because. [2:45:37, 2:45:39]: Um this is new to me. Um [2:45:40, 2:45:46]: And I think it's it's new to all of us. We haven't had a police department since nineteen seventy-seven, forty-five years ago. [2:45:46, 2:45:55]: So I really think that it's important that although these are things that we are going to implement or or we approve. [2:45:55, 2:46:01]: That we do have the information ahead of time and that we do receive a copy of the policy, even if [2:46:01, 2:46:04]: Um, you know, because it's still our business. It's still [2:46:05, 2:46:14]: our city and we are we still want to make sure that we're abreast of everything. We usually we do that at retreats and and get updates. Um [2:46:14, 2:46:27]: But I wanted to know whether or not that was the right policy procedure, never heard of that before. We have had HR come to us with and ask Baron Council to approve policies and procedures. [2:46:27, 2:46:28]: To include [2:46:29, 2:46:40]: um technology or IT or something they're doing within themselves or what they do, what the staff is able to do and not do. So I didn't think that it was odd. [2:46:40, 2:46:41]: Um [2:46:42, 2:46:55]: I I don't think that we don't receive that. We do. We've had to vote on policies and procedures before for other um departments. And that's why I asked. But based off the United States Department of Justice and the [2:46:56, 2:47:05]: manual and basics on what it is and how to start up a police department. It does state that the police of police of chief pol police chief. [2:47:05, 2:47:15]: does write and implement those policies. And having read that, um, if that would have been a part of the presentation, I would have easily voted. And now I'm in favor of it. [2:47:16, 2:47:22]: Okay, Councilwoman Gantt, if I could speak just briefly to your point for a moment, I want wanted to be known that [2:47:22, 2:47:25]: None of these things are going to be a mystery to anybody. As soon as these are developed. [2:47:26, 2:47:29]: You all will have access to these. As a matter of fact, I've mentioned before [2:47:29, 2:47:34]: In full transparency to the community, our policies and procedures will be on our website, so we don't have anything to hide. [2:47:35, 2:47:41]: Any member of the community can look at our policies and procedures and see what our standard operating procedures and practices are. [2:47:43, 2:47:47]: I appreciate that. And yes, I I wouldn't expect that, but if we're gonna get a presentation. [2:47:48, 2:48:08]: I would want to have the policies and procedures up front. It's just something maybe we will want to make a suggestion about it. Um, but I I didn't know whether or not whose job that was to approve or whether it was something taken outside of, you know, wait a minute, we're the legislative body. So um having read that and [2:48:07, 2:48:16]: Knowing that that is now the proper policies, the proper protocol, I'm in favor of that. But we didn't know that before, and we just got. [2:48:16, 2:48:21]: handed this page of titles saying, oh, we're gonna implement all these policies. [2:48:23, 2:48:24]: That's all. All right. [2:48:25, 2:48:35]: Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. Uh Mayor I'm I'm gonna close with this one. And I just want the chief to know that, and he knows this, that I supported the Star Ridge Police Department from the beginning. [2:48:35, 2:48:38]: Uh and I guess I'm the only one here on this council. [2:48:39, 2:48:41]: Um that was an adult. [2:48:42, 2:48:45]: When the city of Stockbridge had a police department before. [2:48:45, 2:48:47]: And and and I know what happened. [2:48:48, 2:48:52]: uh as well as what happened in henry county with the henry county police department. [2:48:52, 2:48:53]: So [2:48:54, 2:48:57]: My fear and my concern is based on [2:48:57, 2:48:57]: History. [2:48:58, 2:49:00]: And and one thing that I'm a history buff. [2:49:01, 2:49:03]: I think we have to learn. [2:49:04, 2:49:08]: from our past in order for us to go forward. [2:49:08, 2:49:11]: That's why I'm speaking the way I'm speaking and I hope that [2:49:11, 2:49:15]: Um that we we the sit of style's learn. [2:49:15, 2:49:17]: uh from that past because [2:49:17, 2:49:19]: If any of you would hear what [2:49:20, 2:49:22]: When we had the Stockbridge Police Department [2:49:23, 2:49:29]: You will know why I'm speaking the way I'm speaking. And and and and we trust it. [2:49:30, 2:49:34]: Uh our city officials, we we trusted the police department, but [2:49:35, 2:49:35]: Um [2:49:37, 2:49:57]: That was a lot of issues. So uh I just appreciate the information, Chief, and uh Mr. Gardner. And I think as we all said before, uh, if we can sort of streamline some of these processes with information, uh being able to um you know discuss some of these things at a true work session. [2:49:57, 2:50:05]: et cetera, et cetera. I I think it would do us well, you know, in moving forward. Uh the only thing I say is we we have to get it right. [2:50:06, 2:50:14]: Oftentimes when we do work hard, we you know we still don't get it right. But I'm just saying, Chief, um, and as you all know. [2:50:15, 2:50:18]: Policing is very difficult in 2022. [2:50:18, 2:50:26]: And I just want us to just make sure that we do the best that we can to make sure that the city of Stybridge Police Department. [2:50:26, 2:50:29]: It is exactly what we really want it to be. [2:50:29, 2:50:31]: Course there's gonna be some incidents. We know that. [2:50:32, 2:50:35]: Um, but hopefully, you know, we can minimize that and [2:50:35, 2:50:39]: We can just still go far and put a good product out there on the streets instead of stockbridge. [2:50:39, 2:50:40]: Thank you, sir. [2:50:40, 2:50:42]: Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [2:50:46, 2:50:47]: You muted, sir. [2:50:47, 2:50:51]: Yeah, I had to get it off of me, but the thing won't move all the time. Um [2:50:52, 2:50:59]: Mayor, with what uh what what the chief has said, and I understand that that what he's doing, the standard operating procedures. [2:51:00, 2:51:05]: Uh and Mr. Gardiner um has as our city manager. [2:51:06, 2:51:11]: That we've hired said that what what's going on is standard operating procedure. Mr. Gardner. [2:51:12, 2:51:15]: Uh, how many police officers did the state of Eastpawn have? [2:51:17, 2:51:20]: Uh budgeted for a hundred and [2:51:21, 2:51:23]: Fifth hundred and twenty four, hundred and fifteen. [2:51:24, 2:51:26]: Three times as big as this department. [2:51:27, 2:51:41]: I have to trust our city manager. I and I know the procedures are when you're writing SOPs in departments, especially when it comes to uh public safety and uh with with policing and and and managing that, that those SOPs come out. [2:51:42, 2:51:43]: Can be very [2:51:43, 2:51:52]: Chief Trevor said he's going to keep us abreast of everything that happens. He doesn't have to come to us with everything that he does when it comes to these policy procedures, or we're going to be. [2:51:52, 2:52:06]: Doing this all the time. So with that being said, I'd like to make a motion to approve. Stand stand by, sir. Stand by. Somebody else has already mentioned that they want to make a motion. Stand by. I've I've delayed it. So we get stand by. I'm going to Miss Barber. If that's the case. Miss Barber, what's your motion? [2:52:08, 2:52:18]: Motion to approve the recommendation of Chief Tramer for the authority to implement andor amend police department policies and procedures. [2:52:18, 2:52:21]: with review by legal counsel as appropriate. [2:52:22, 2:52:28]: Exclusive policies and pre procedures with a financial impact greater than five thousand dollars. [2:52:28, 2:52:29]: Hi. [2:52:30, 2:52:36]: Okay, Mr. Alzheimer's second that okay any further discussion? We've had plenty. All right. All in favor of that motion, please indicate. [2:52:37, 2:52:39]: Okay, is is actually a unanimous decision. [2:52:40, 2:52:41]: Okay, I'll stand it. [2:52:41, 2:52:43]: Yes, ma'am, go ahead, please. [2:52:43, 2:52:44]: I have um [2:52:44, 2:52:46]: A couple more um [2:52:47, 2:52:50]: motions I'd like to make. The first one is to task staff with preparing [2:52:51, 2:53:01]: and posting applications um for stakeholders, citizens, mayor point of order. Come on, Mayor. We gotta amend the agenda for these items. Possible. [2:53:01, 2:53:09]: Stand by please to enact the Citizen Advisory Board and the Citizen Review Board. [2:53:10, 2:53:13]: So we can start receiving in those applications now. [2:53:15, 2:53:15]: All right, so [2:53:16, 2:53:25]: So this is something that once again, I I don't know if whether or not stand by say Ms. Holly, did you understand all that? Did you get all that? Did you need to be restated? [2:53:26, 2:53:28]: What I got um was that um [2:53:29, 2:53:31]: The motion is to task staff with preparing [2:53:32, 2:53:38]: To accept applications to enact the Citizens Review Board and the Citizens Advisory Board. Is that correct? [2:53:38, 2:53:39]: That is correct. [2:53:39, 2:53:52]: All right. Okay. Mayor Protam second the motion. I got it. Any further discussion? Yeah, Mayor. I'm sorry. Is it [2:53:52, 2:53:55]: And I'm fine with whatever sh but isn't the proper procedure. [2:53:56, 2:54:01]: That we have to amend the agenda to add that item and then vote on that item. We can't just [2:54:01, 2:54:08]: We can't just bring items in. We have to amend vote to amend the agenda, agenda, and then vote on that item. [2:54:08, 2:54:20]: We can't this we we're operating we can't operate like this. Stand by, stand by, stand by. The motion uh our attorneys, you heard the motion. Can that motion be made or is there something that needs to be added to agenda and then made? [2:54:22, 2:54:25]: I'd like to confer with attorney Berry and uh Mr. Garden Pop Witzing. [2:54:26, 2:54:28]: All right, go write it, please. Stand by. [2:54:30, 2:54:34]: Uh Ms Ms. Mayor, as as they are conferring [2:54:36, 2:54:37]: Go ahead, sir. [2:54:38, 2:54:42]: Uh I I I think the mayor as the presiding officer of of the meeting. [2:54:43, 2:54:46]: I I do think you have that latitude, but I think um [2:54:46, 2:54:49]: So I think the attorneys may answer that shortly. [2:54:49, 2:54:49]: Okay. [2:54:50, 2:54:50]: So be it. [2:54:51, 2:54:56]: Mr. Gardner, your hand's up. Go ahead. Yes, ma'am. Uh do we wanna do [2:54:57, 2:55:01]: Both are or one of the other. I think um [2:55:02, 2:55:04]: The chief did it mention the advisory board. [2:55:05, 2:55:05]: Um [2:55:05, 2:55:07]: was um [2:55:07, 2:55:11]: One of them that that did he did he um looked at. [2:55:11, 2:55:14]: Um I'm not sure as to [2:55:14, 2:55:16]: Are we doing both boards?'Cause [2:55:17, 2:55:17]: Yes. [2:55:17, 2:55:18]: Yeah. [2:55:18, 2:55:20]: That okay. [2:55:20, 2:55:25]: Well, she she says yes. I don't know. T uh what uh what Chief Mr. Tramor Chief Tremors here. What do you think, Chief? [2:55:26, 2:55:28]: This deals with your responsibility. [2:55:28, 2:55:37]: Well let me let me just say this. I think I think an advisory board, absolutely. That's something that the community needs to be involved in. As we mentioned before, my vision was [2:55:37, 2:55:49]: When you appoint an advisory board, then you have obviously like with any other board, you have certain members of the community that are part of that. Now, those community members may come from different segments of the community, but they all could come from [2:55:50, 2:55:55]: one area of the community and then you don't have the full spectrum of the community's concerns being represented. [2:55:55, 2:55:59]: So my vision was to have separate advisory councils. [2:55:59, 2:56:05]: that were geographically based, much similar to what's being moved forward with council districts, so that [2:56:05, 2:56:22]: Issues that are occurring in Eagle's Landing are appropriately addressed by that advisory council and issues that are happening in the northern part of the city are appropriately being addressed by that advisory council. And furthermore, what that does is it expands citizen participation in oversight of things that impact them in their community. [2:56:23, 2:56:28]: I'm not immediately uh fond of moving forward with a review board. [2:56:28, 2:56:36]: Uh, because I think there has to be additional discussion as to what the parameters are of the review board. When you implement a review board, that means that you have citizens in the community. [2:56:37, 2:56:45]: Who now can enact disciplinary action or they can take action as it relates to things that are happening within the police department. So I think that. [2:56:46, 2:56:52]: That just requires it's not that I'm that I'm opposed to it. I think that it requires further discussion as to what the parameters [2:56:52, 2:56:54]: Of that is going to be. [2:56:55, 2:56:56]: All right. Thank you. [2:56:56, 2:56:58]: It's so um [2:56:59, 2:57:00]: All I'm saying is [2:57:01, 2:57:03]: Post and advertise for both. [2:57:04, 2:57:09]: Of course, these city attorneys um based on [2:57:10, 2:57:15]: the number of individuals or what the requirements and qualifications are. [2:57:16, 2:57:18]: The city attorneys will have to determine that. [2:57:18, 2:57:21]: Um, I guess based on state law, I don't know. [2:57:22, 2:57:25]: But all I'm saying is post and advertise them. [2:57:26, 2:57:26]: Right now. [2:57:27, 2:57:33]: Um when we when those boards actually um convene. [2:57:34, 2:57:39]: the council can discuss that. And I certainly hope that Chief Tramer. [2:57:39, 2:57:41]: um is going to be a part of [2:57:41, 2:57:49]: Evaluating and reviewing these applications. It looks like everybody has disappeared from the screen. I mean, Mr. Gardner. [2:57:50, 2:57:53]: Uh well they're discussing they're discussing this issue. They'll be back. [2:57:54, 2:58:00]: Wait is she finished? Is she finished first of all? [2:58:01, 2:58:02]: You you finished, Ms. Palmer? [2:58:02, 2:58:10]: Um yes, but I have two more motions that I want to bring forward to. Well, don't bring those up just yet. Hold them for a second. Mr. Ms. [2:58:11, 2:58:17]: Well, I certainly agree with that assessment. Again, both of the boards could be passed now and that some the council will determine. [2:58:17, 2:58:20]: uh when uh they will be implemented. [2:58:20, 2:58:37]: And understanding this, just like some of the other boards, like the ethics board works, uh, you could also have the review council be a recommending board versus versus what the chief described, which is a di I'm not sure if we want them issuing the discipline we will make. [2:58:37, 2:58:40]: Re take recommendations on what the [2:58:40, 2:58:50]: incident have versus uh actually inserting the discipline. So I think that that discussion will be had down the line with taking the applications, certainly we could do that. [2:58:51, 2:58:57]: All right, gentlemen, you're back. What's what's the what's the verdict here on on what we can do what we need to do or can't do or should do. [2:58:58, 2:59:09]: That this is an up or down issue that needs to be voted on and that if you all wish to amend the agenda, you would need to amend the agenda and have the resolution for the creation of these. [2:59:11, 2:59:23]: Okay. So the two the two boards that she's put a motion in you're saying that we to have that discussion, we need amended agenda to talk about it and then decide whether or not uh to implement these two programs. Is that what you're getting there? [2:59:23, 2:59:24]: Yes. [2:59:24, 2:59:34]: Okay, Mayor Ford, I'd like to amend the agenda to add a discussion regarding the Citizen Advisory Board and the Citizen Review Board. [2:59:34, 2:59:38]: Oh second, second, Ms. Alexander second that all in favor, please indicate. [2:59:40, 2:59:42]: All right. All right. So now she says okay now. [2:59:43, 2:59:51]: Mayor Ford, if there is no other discussions in regards to this particular item, I'd like to call for the vote. [2:59:51, 2:59:55]: Well re restate your restate your motion now. Now we added two agenda. Restate your motion, please. [2:59:55, 2:59:58]: Um to test staff with [2:59:59, 3:00:00]: Drafting or preparing [3:00:01, 3:00:02]: The advertisements. [3:00:03, 3:00:04]: And posting it. [3:00:05, 3:00:08]: For stakeholders um to apply. [3:00:09, 3:00:12]: For the citizen advisory board. [3:00:12, 3:00:14]: And Citizen Review Board. [3:00:15, 3:00:15]: Second. [3:00:15, 3:00:19]: Please have those those applications posted. [3:00:20, 3:00:22]: Um, no later than [3:00:23, 3:00:25]: Our next um meeting. [3:00:26, 3:00:28]: By April work session. I don't know when that is. [3:00:29, 3:00:32]: That's the 26th of April is our work session. [3:00:32, 3:00:34]: Let's give into it thirty days. [3:00:35, 3:00:50]: That's ambitious because we have to include in the description of the application. So that needs to go through the legal process. So I don't know that that will be ready by the next 30 days from. [3:00:50, 3:00:51]: So our [3:00:52, 3:00:54]: Main council meeting. [3:00:54, 3:01:07]: Okay. May Mayor, I mean, um councilwoman. Stand by please. So you you're so you're you're saying thirty days from this time point point, roughly thirty days in our next council meetings, what you're getting at? [3:01:07, 3:01:08]: Yeah, I'll second that. [3:01:10, 3:01:12]: We like to test that with drafting. [3:01:12, 3:01:13]: Right. [3:01:13, 3:01:15]: The application [3:01:15, 3:01:16]: Mm-hmm. [3:01:16, 3:01:18]: Posting or advertising. [3:01:19, 3:01:20]: The application. [3:01:21, 3:01:22]: Bye. [3:01:22, 3:01:25]: Our May council meeting. [3:01:26, 3:01:26]: So I can [3:01:27, 3:01:34]: All right. Okay. Stand by. Okay. Mr. Stand by Ms. Gantt. Mr. Gardner, you had your hand up earlier as well. [3:01:34, 3:01:37]: Uh no y'all you changed y'all changed it. I'm fine. [3:01:37, 3:01:39]: Okay, Miss Ms. Gann, go ahead, please. [3:01:40, 3:01:46]: Is the application for the advisory board only and then we hold off and do the um [3:01:46, 3:01:48]: The review board. [3:01:49, 3:01:51]: Later. I think it's both. [3:01:52, 3:02:02]: So my concern is we don't know whether or not once we determine the policies and or whatever however we want to do it, we first need to find out whether or not we're gonna have a review board. [3:02:02, 3:02:03]: Right. [3:02:03, 3:02:08]: Because there was some discussion with city manager and the chief they just mentioned [3:02:08, 3:02:16]: some of the things that would have to be implemented. So why would we take, I don't know if we would take what we would be looking for, what that application should look like. [3:02:16, 3:02:20]: Um this is totally different. It's public safety. So I would [3:02:20, 3:02:22]: You know, it's not like our normal [3:02:23, 3:02:24]: Form [3:02:24, 3:02:31]: which actually isn't as detailed for volunteer committees. This is something totally different. [3:02:31, 3:02:33]: Um, so would we [3:02:34, 3:02:35]: I think I would be more comfortable. [3:02:36, 3:02:41]: with the green, you know, let's go towards moving towards the advisory board applications. [3:02:42, 3:02:43]: And then [3:02:43, 3:02:50]: We are agreeing that we would implement a review board at some point in time if we want to, but [3:02:50, 3:02:53]: I don't know if we should put both of those out right now. [3:02:53, 3:02:56]: I mean, am am I missing something? Am I off track? [3:02:57, 3:02:58]: Uh mayor. [3:02:58, 3:02:59]: Yeah, yes, sir. [3:02:59, 3:03:03]: I think as was stated, we still can determine when and if [3:03:04, 3:03:13]: those boards move forward. We're just moving forward with the solicitation and we know how long it takes sometimes. So let that that's that was a suggestion. [3:03:14, 3:03:31]: Okay. Thank you. Anybody else? Mr. Gardner, you had your hand moved there? Yeah, very quickly. Um and from an expectation standpoint, I mean if you if you solicit applications, people are gonna assume that you're gonna be making a decision fairly quickly as to really as to whether or not you're gonna they're gonna be [3:03:32, 3:03:33]: Participating in a board or not? [3:03:34, 3:03:35]: Um, I don't know. [3:03:35, 3:03:36]: Um [3:03:41, 3:03:48]: If you wanna wanna do that and then you you're holding off three to four months and then somebody gets upset that they didn't you know, nothing's moving. [3:03:48, 3:03:50]: Um because they applied. [3:03:50, 3:03:53]: But we'll definitely put a caveat that says this you know. [3:03:53, 3:03:55]: You can apply, please apply. [3:03:56, 3:04:01]: Um, have some criteria around them. Um, and then just have a footnote to let'em know that, you know. [3:04:02, 3:04:07]: The applications will be reviewed, um and council will make recommendations and contact will be made. [3:04:07, 3:04:09]: At some date in the future. [3:04:09, 3:04:10]: Certainly. [3:04:12, 3:04:16]: All right, any further discussion on this particular motion. Go right up. [3:04:16, 3:04:21]: May I have a question I uh either for Mr. Gar I think Mr. Gardner or Chief. [3:04:22, 3:04:30]: Um, because this board is gonna be a lot different from any other board. It's gonna be dealing with legalities pertaining to situations. [3:04:31, 3:04:40]: Uh I think I I I I'm I'm not sure, but I'm I'm I'm maybe alluding to what Councilwoman Ganttz said. What what are the parameters for the applicants? [3:04:41, 3:04:45]: What what what is the parameters that an applicant is qualified to be on these boards? [3:04:46, 3:04:49]: We have nothing. We're saying we're saying [3:04:50, 3:04:54]: to have something written up, but wouldn't this council want to see the parameters? [3:04:55, 3:04:59]: Uh of what qualifications the applicant would have to be on these boards. [3:05:01, 3:05:09]: That would be helpful if we had that. Um okay, Mr. Gardner, you you want to respond to that one as well? Well very quickly, uh if we [3:05:09, 3:05:29]: Uh we're talking about the m the May de May meeting. If y'all allow us to, let us look at the, you know, what's what's been the best practices out there as it relates to to inclusion on these boards, what what criteria have other police departments looked at? Um, bring those back to you guys. I think we can investigate those and bring those. [3:05:29, 3:05:34]: back to you guys at the at the work session and then uh as it relates to getting, you know. [3:05:34, 3:05:43]: Having you guys review and look at those and they're fine with everybody, then move forward with posting and and and getting all of the second half of that stuff done. [3:05:43, 3:05:45]: That might work better. [3:05:45, 3:06:03]: Can I bring us like a draft of those applications that are appropriate session? The the criteria is at least what what what do other police departments look for in terms of of citizen participation? Um, do they have to come with some special skill set uh or not or just the lay citizen? [3:06:04, 3:06:16]: Um, how do they address those? And and that shouldn't take us that long to investigate four or five of them that exist around the metro area um and then be able to present that to you guys and say, hey, this is what we found. [3:06:16, 3:06:28]: that you know, a majority of the police department look for people with a legal background or this background or that background to sit on these review boards because I think Chief said it succinctly. [3:06:28, 3:06:36]: One of these boards look at discipline. I do not want to get into the point where citizens are talking about disciplinary issues. [3:06:36, 3:06:37]: Good personnel. [3:06:38, 3:06:43]: I don't want I don't know. That's I and I don't know of any other police department that does that at our size, but [3:06:43, 3:06:46]: That's information I think you guys need to have. [3:06:46, 3:06:50]: Um before making the decision and and how does how does how's that worked? [3:06:50, 3:07:00]: Um give us time to look at, research this and bring it back to you guys before you all make a final determination because we could be standing up stuff and not realizing that it's [3:07:00, 3:07:03]: Нахлін, бо пробь hindering. [3:07:03, 3:07:04]: But you at least wanna know. [3:07:05, 3:07:06]: Either way. [3:07:07, 3:07:08]: Yes, it's Barber. [3:07:08, 3:07:09]: So [3:07:09, 3:07:10]: Mr. Gardner. [3:07:11, 3:07:14]: The draft of these two applications. [3:07:15, 3:07:18]: I would hope that the city attorneys because I just mentioned [3:07:18, 3:07:20]: they need to be involved in drafting it. [3:07:21, 3:07:21]: Um [3:07:22, 3:07:24]: Will you bring back the draft to the council? [3:07:25, 3:07:26]: Our April work session. [3:07:27, 3:07:36]: No, what I was saying is can we can we bring back the criteria that other police departments use when they're looking in membership? By the April work session? [3:07:36, 3:07:41]: Yeah, that shouldn't be that shouldn't be a heavy lift. That shouldn't be a heavy. We th that's just a quick reference. [3:07:41, 3:07:46]: I'll add to my motion that staff will present. [3:07:46, 3:07:48]: А драфта до критерія. [3:07:48, 3:07:51]: For both of these boards. [3:07:52, 3:07:55]: but I still want to have them both. [3:07:55, 3:07:56]: Posted. [3:07:56, 3:08:03]: um and advertise well targeted to advertise bar May council meeting. [3:08:03, 3:08:11]: Which is May ninth, I believe it is. Right. Okay. Now, um uh Chief, you had your hand raised. [3:08:13, 3:08:20]: I I think Attorney Washington actually had his hand and attorney Berry had theirs at the end. All right. All right. Fine. Mr. Washington, go ahead, please. [3:08:21, 3:08:29]: What my concern is, and we are trying to make sure we adhere to the council wishes. What my concern is, and I guess we can ask the clerk this Miss Holliday. [3:08:29, 3:08:31]: Um if we're creating [3:08:31, 3:08:33]: It's one thing to do. [3:08:34, 3:08:36]: Applications for something. [3:08:36, 3:08:50]: And that can be done by resolution because that's a council act. I think it's another thing to create a board which has some level of authority because I think that's an ordinance. And I don't know whether procedurally you can create an ordinance on [3:08:51, 3:08:54]: And for motion when you amend the agenda. [3:08:54, 3:08:58]: without having some level of notice. That's why I wanted to ask the clerk about [3:08:59, 3:08:59]: Is [3:09:00, 3:09:00]: But [3:09:01, 3:09:02]: She would think in this situation. [3:09:04, 3:09:06]: Does this need to be if these are ordinances? [3:09:07, 3:09:16]: Does it need to be two ordinances to create these boards of whatever authority they may have that is put on an agenda so that there can be effective citizen input about that? [3:09:16, 3:09:17]: Mm. [3:09:17, 3:09:20]: And can I just quit Okay, go ahead, Jim. [3:09:20, 3:09:26]: Well, the real quick, sorry, can I just add for color? I'm looking at the City of Atlanta Citizens Review Board right now. [3:09:26, 3:09:28]: And the the statute, I mean it's got [3:09:29, 3:09:30]: Paragraphs. [3:09:30, 3:09:34]: There's fifteen members on the citizens review board for city of Atlanta. [3:09:35, 3:09:41]: One appointed by the mayor, one by the council, one by the present the council with previous experience as a law enforcement professional. [3:09:42, 3:09:48]: Four from different parts of the city, one from the Gate City Bar Association, one from Atlanta Bar Association. [3:09:48, 3:09:51]: City of Atlanta, and again that's just merely one example. [3:09:51, 3:09:53]: has an ordinance that's about [3:09:53, 3:09:55]: thirty or forty paragraphs long. [3:09:56, 3:09:57]: About the Citizens Revue Board. [3:09:58, 3:09:59]: So the [3:09:59, 3:10:06]: My my thought is it may make sense to sort of lay out ordinances here before we start taking applications for boards that don't even exist right now. [3:10:08, 3:10:09]: Okay. [3:10:10, 3:10:26]: Thank you for the input. Back to you, Vanessa. Go ahead, please. Okay, so I believe that uh the action to move forward is the resolution to actually move forward with it. Yes, you are going to need an ordinance simple similar to what we did for the youth council when it was [3:10:26, 3:10:27]: um enact it. [3:10:28, 3:10:34]: The resolution was to move forward with the with the uh board, the city council by charter. [3:10:35, 3:10:38]: is who actually creates the board. [3:10:38, 3:10:48]: but it would be done with resolution, it would have bylaws and all of that. So it's going to take more than the 30 days that I think that you're thinking it may take. [3:10:48, 3:10:50]: to actually have this happen. [3:10:50, 3:10:56]: But the first act is to resolve to do it, which is the resolution, and then [3:10:56, 3:10:59]: The enactment of it would be done by the ordinance. [3:11:01, 3:11:04]: Okay. Thank you for that. Back to you, Chief. You had your hand up still. [3:11:07, 3:11:11]: Yes, thank you. I just wanted to point out a couple of things and really it's to the point that's already been made, but [3:11:12, 3:11:12]: I think it [3:11:13, 3:11:16]: Th this this really has to be explored further because [3:11:17, 3:11:27]: We have to determine the eligibility criteria for members of the board. There are obviously background processes. If you're on a review board, uh there's certain things that they have to adhere to. I mean, people with criminal [3:11:28, 3:11:35]: convictions and you know different things along those lines, we're not going to be able to participate. We have to identify what cases we're giving them the authority to review. [3:11:36, 3:11:41]: We have to establish the extent of openness that we're going to allow uh with investigations. [3:11:41, 3:11:45]: Uh we have to take into consideration that the officers involved in these are um you know. [3:11:46, 3:11:49]: afforded due process rights and so we have to consider [3:11:49, 3:11:54]: uh the legal ramifications of of their legal representation and council in these matters. [3:11:54, 3:11:59]: Uh we have to decide whether or not we're giving giving the review board subpoena authority. I mean they're just [3:11:59, 3:12:02]: There are myriad of issues that have to be considered. This is not a [3:12:03, 3:12:10]: as simple as an advisory board, this is something that really I think needs time to uh to really develop uh if we're gonna do it the right way. [3:12:12, 3:12:16]: All right. Uh Mr. Berry, your hand's still up. Do you have something more to add or is your you just didn't take it down? [3:12:17, 3:12:19]: Sorry about that, just an excited hand. [3:12:20, 3:12:21]: Okay. [3:12:21, 3:12:23]: Uh, Ms. Gantt, go ahead, please. [3:12:23, 3:12:27]: So having said that, I am not in favor of um [3:12:27, 3:12:34]: implementing an application for a review board at this time. I think we need all the information first. [3:12:34, 3:12:36]: Um, I don't wanna [3:12:38, 3:12:39]: What I don't want to do. [3:12:40, 3:12:45]: Is jump the gun and uh you know, do this ahead of time and put out applications. [3:12:46, 3:12:47]: For people to submit. [3:12:47, 3:12:51]: When we just heard from attorney Berry. [3:12:51, 3:12:55]: There's like thirty, forty paragraphs in the city of Atlanta's review board alone. [3:12:56, 3:12:56]: Um [3:12:57, 3:12:59]: And certain requirements. [3:12:59, 3:13:12]: The gate city bar, those are attorneys that are basically being appointed on from those board from different to different to the board. Um, I think that we need to make sure we have our ducks in a row for that. I'm not against it. [3:13:12, 3:13:17]: I just want to make sure that we have everything together prior to so we know. [3:13:17, 3:13:29]: what the application needs to look like. I think it's going to take way more time for that. But I do agree that we can go ahead and move forward with the application for the advisory board. [3:13:30, 3:13:31]: Yeah, I just think [3:13:33, 3:13:35]: All right. Thank you. [3:13:35, 3:13:36]: Okay, anything else? [3:13:37, 3:13:39]: Mr. Yeah, go ahead, sir. [3:13:39, 3:13:59]: Might might I make a suggestion, okay, that we go ahead and move forward with the applications for the advisory board itself. But we certainly want to send the signal to the citizens we're going to have a review board too, and that we task staff with. [3:13:59, 3:14:17]: uh you know, setting up or constructing the ordinances of what necessary to set up a citizens review board, but remove the the the the 30 days window from it so that it does move forward. [3:14:17, 3:14:20]: but given more time to develop. [3:14:20, 3:14:24]: Uh over the course of time. I make that suggestion. [3:14:25, 3:14:41]: Okay, but uh motion was made by Councilman Barber. So thirty day the yeah, the thirty days is is to to get that done, we've been basically advised that thirty it was gonna take much longer than that. So I I need that in order to make a second on that. Yeah. That's fine. Um [3:14:42, 3:14:47]: What I want is for us to draft the applications. [3:14:47, 3:14:52]: Staff can do the due diligence and research and finding out what the criteria is for [3:14:53, 3:14:55]: you know, individuals to serve. [3:14:56, 3:15:00]: I never said anything about the council approving appointments. [3:15:01, 3:15:02]: That's a later step. [3:15:03, 3:15:04]: Oh, I wanted. [3:15:04, 3:15:07]: It's for staff to do research and due diligence. [3:15:07, 3:15:09]: In preparing the applications. [3:15:09, 3:15:10]: For both. [3:15:10, 3:15:14]: the Citizen Review Board and the Citizen Advisory Board. [3:15:15, 3:15:16]: Both of them. [3:15:17, 3:15:18]: And I believe [3:15:18, 3:15:21]: Maybe a month and a half should be a reasonable amount of time. [3:15:22, 3:15:23]: So if we say [3:15:24, 3:15:24]: Green. [3:15:25, 3:15:26]: Back to the council. [3:15:26, 3:15:29]: The criteria for both of those applications. [3:15:30, 3:15:32]: I like to put deadlines on things. [3:15:32, 3:15:33]: Because I've been shown. [3:15:34, 3:15:37]: That things don't always come back when we expect for them to. [3:15:38, 3:15:41]: So allowing staff a month and a half. [3:15:42, 3:15:44]: To draft the application. [3:15:45, 3:15:46]: And have them posted. [3:15:46, 3:15:48]: Seems reasonable to me. [3:15:48, 3:15:50]: But I won't remove. [3:15:50, 3:15:51]: Um, from my motion. [3:15:52, 3:15:52]: Um [3:15:53, 3:15:54]: They [3:15:54, 3:15:56]: Review board. [3:15:57, 3:15:58]: I want both of them. [3:15:59, 3:16:02]: I want staff to draft and do their research. [3:16:03, 3:16:05]: When developing the applications. [3:16:06, 3:16:08]: For both of the boards. [3:16:08, 3:16:12]: Yeah, if I need to remove the timeline of [3:16:12, 3:16:15]: I don't know, what was it? Uh thirty days. [3:16:15, 3:16:17]: To bring back craft to the council. [3:16:18, 3:16:19]: Or if I need to remove [3:16:20, 3:16:24]: The date, can you read back my motion, Ms. Holland? [3:16:24, 3:16:35]: So you um the motion is to task staff with preparing and advertising and posting applications to enact the citizens review review board and the [3:16:36, 3:16:38]: Citizen Advisory Board. [3:16:38, 3:16:42]: For stakeholders to be able to apply and you currently have [3:16:43, 3:16:45]: Um and with a draft. [3:16:45, 3:16:48]: Of the criteria by four twenty six. [3:16:49, 3:16:54]: It was the new date that was put in there, April twenty sixth. Okay. So would you [3:16:54, 3:16:56]: Will you mind removing? [3:16:57, 3:16:58]: Um the dates. [3:16:59, 3:17:00]: Okay. [3:17:02, 3:17:03]: Instead [3:17:04, 3:17:05]: Who will um [3:17:06, 3:17:07]: For my motion. [3:17:07, 3:17:08]: Um [3:17:08, 3:17:11]: Staff are to bring back the draft. [3:17:11, 3:17:13]: of these applications. [3:17:14, 3:17:15]: By our [3:17:19, 3:17:20]: May work session. [3:17:22, 3:17:23]: Okay. [3:17:25, 3:17:29]: That's a month and a half for staff to do their due diligence and research. [3:17:30, 3:17:32]: And prepare the criteria. [3:17:33, 3:17:34]: Begin. [3:17:35, 3:17:35]: Advertising. [3:17:36, 3:17:37]: For these boards. [3:17:38, 3:17:42]: That's one of the things that I talk with the citizens about. [3:17:42, 3:17:44]: These boards. [3:17:44, 3:17:46]: And I was able to get them to support. [3:17:47, 3:17:49]: This establishing police department. [3:17:50, 3:17:54]: Because they felt as though it as long as citizens are involved. [3:17:54, 3:17:58]: In establishing this police department, they were supported. [3:17:59, 3:18:01]: So we need to make sure that we are [3:18:01, 3:18:06]: getting citizen input and involvement and establishing these boards are important. [3:18:07, 3:18:08]: That's all. [3:18:08, 3:18:09]: Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [3:18:11, 3:18:12]: Thank you, Mayor. [3:18:13, 3:18:21]: You know, I think everyone on here wants accountability with the citizens involved, review board, advisory board. [3:18:22, 3:18:27]: We have a chief right here that's been hired. We have a city manager. [3:18:27, 3:18:31]: That's been hired. And we have city attorneys here that's been hired. [3:18:32, 3:18:43]: Why don't we tell them to give us the best procedurally how the best way to go about this, that we get what we want, get what we need in a timely fashion and how it needs to be done. [3:18:44, 3:18:47]: This council has got to stop. [3:18:47, 3:18:51]: implementing in areas that we have no idea what we're doing. [3:18:51, 3:18:54]: And all it takes is three to raise their hand and make it happen. [3:18:55, 3:18:58]: Why don't we listen to the people that we've hired to do this? [3:18:59, 3:19:06]: How much are we gonna sit here and make like the chief doesn't matter, the attorneys don't matter, the city managers don't matter? [3:19:06, 3:19:12]: Tell us how do we go about doing this? What would be the best practices? And how do we make this come about? [3:19:13, 3:19:20]: But we sit here and tell the people what we want to do and we have never did these some things before. We never did this before. [3:19:21, 3:19:32]: Why don't we deal with the professionals that can tell us which how to go? Well, change the let's do this. Please. Point of order. I'm saying my I'm saying pertaining to this agenda item. [3:19:32, 3:19:38]: Before I vote on it, why don't we ask the people that we've hired? [3:19:38, 3:19:42]: Point point order. What's your point order, please? He's just ranting. [3:19:44, 3:19:47]: That's not a point of water. Okay. Either you're going to vote. [3:19:47, 3:20:07]: On this guy because I've made an adjustment recommendation from city attorney. Okay, but that's the point of order. Okay. I have revised my motion to cover what the attorney keeps clear. All right, Miss Barber. [3:20:07, 3:20:17]: Got that. So this is granting. That's my point of order. Understand. Understand your point of order. Mr. Blount, go ahead and finish your point, but finish your discussion, please. [3:20:18, 3:20:20]: If I'm ranting for clarity. [3:20:20, 3:20:26]: I'd rather rent for clarity than to sit here and rant with about something I know nothing about and make suggestions. [3:20:26, 3:20:32]: Come on, this this this has to be done. Things about this police department. [3:20:32, 3:20:38]: In any department with the city, we have to go to the ones that know what they're doing. [3:20:38, 3:20:47]: They just that this they just sit here and told us about the ordinance change, about what college needs to be put in place, all of these things. [3:20:48, 3:20:55]: But yet we're gonna sit here and vote on two boards, pertain to two boards where we've just been advised of all we have to do. [3:20:57, 3:21:08]: Okay. Oh thanks. Appreciate it. All right. Um once again, Vanessa, make sure I'd like for you to read the motion one more time, make sure we understand what we voted on, one last time before we take the vote. [3:21:09, 3:21:11]: All right. So the motion is to task that. [3:21:12, 3:21:13]: We're preparing. [3:21:13, 3:21:15]: Advertising and posting. [3:21:16, 3:21:27]: For applications to be submitted by the stakeholders to enact a citizens review board and a citizen's advisory board with the draft of the criteria. [3:21:27, 3:21:31]: To come back to the council at the May work session. [3:21:32, 3:21:33]: Is that your motion, Councilman Barber? [3:21:37, 3:21:43]: Um the first sentence of that you mentioned about drafting and advertising. [3:21:43, 3:21:48]: Can you remove the advertising piece of that? [3:21:48, 3:21:49]: And posting. [3:21:49, 3:21:53]: And the posting advertising and posting. Okay. So we'll remove that portion. [3:21:53, 3:21:54]: So [3:21:54, 3:21:55]: Second. [3:21:56, 3:21:58]: Good Alexander. All right, thank you. [3:22:00, 3:22:03]: All right. Motion's been made, been second. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [3:22:05, 3:22:07]: We have a quite question you can't vote. [3:22:07, 3:22:09]: No, I have a question. [3:22:09, 3:22:14]: Okay. Are we I know we're doing a resolution to [3:22:14, 3:22:20]: I know we're doing a resolution to task staff with drafting this information. [3:22:20, 3:22:29]: Is this resolution also an ordinance which creates the board? No. Okay, I just want to be clear on that. [3:22:30, 3:22:38]: Once again, all in favor of the motion, please indicate. Let's get the accurate vote here. One, two, three, four, four. All posed? [3:22:39, 3:22:40]: So abstain. [3:22:42, 3:22:42]: Mayor. [3:22:43, 3:22:43]: Yes, sir. [3:22:44, 3:23:04]: Clearly, he said that this is not this is not the vote to uh actually appoint the boards, it's just to move the resolution forward. That's correct. Fine with that. Okay, so it's five five, it's an announcement vote. Okay. Now, now, Ms. Barber, you said you had two more motions. Uh so I kind of wonder what what you want to put in motion here. Uh I'm hoping that that that was in the same category. [3:23:04, 3:23:06]: what we amended the agenda, we don't have to amend the agenda anymore. [3:23:07, 3:23:09]: So I might have to look look for the attorneys to [3:23:09, 3:23:12]: advise on this. So what is your other motions you want to make? [3:23:13, 3:23:21]: to task staff with comparing the cost of the insurance with GMA and the current insurance. So I'd like to amend the agenda. [3:23:22, 3:23:23]: To add [3:23:24, 3:23:25]: An item for discussion. [3:23:26, 3:23:40]: Well, let me ask let me mention this to you. I think in the conversation, Mr. Gardner indicated and mention about me getting with uh with the Miss Holliday in reference to that. He said if it's the wishes of the council, he would do it. [3:23:40, 3:23:42]: So Mr. Garner. [3:23:43, 3:23:46]: He needed uh stand by Ms Gan mister Gardner. [3:23:46, 3:23:47]: Yes, sir. [3:23:47, 3:23:57]: Yeah, in reference to your statement before about the comparing the insurance, insurance aspect and your experiences you had with that, I thought you said you were going to do that anyway. You had plans to do that? [3:23:57, 3:24:17]: Is that right? Yeah, yeah. I mean if if if council wanted to make it a directive, I'm fine with I'm fine with council making a directive to do so for us to investigate going to the GMA for our insurance coverage. I have no problems doing that. That's okay, one second. I don't I I'm kinda wonder whether or not we need a amend agenda for that particular directive. Well that's consensus. Consensus. [3:24:18, 3:24:19]: One second, stand by [3:24:20, 3:24:21]: Yeah, Tony's [3:24:21, 3:24:24]: Mm, if if if if that's you know [3:24:24, 3:24:26]: Like I said, I was gonna look at that anyway. [3:24:26, 3:24:28]: Um, obviously a directive makes it [3:24:29, 3:24:48]: mm make sure that I get it done and it's not just on my wish list, that it's on council's wish list. Um, but I can do it anyway without having to go because I mean if we have to go back and do a resolution or gym amend the agenda, I'll just go ahead and start the work and I'll bring it back at the April work at the April work session and tell you guys what I'm finding. [3:24:48, 3:24:53]: Awesome. That is what my motion is, as recommended by um Mr. Gardner. [3:24:55, 3:24:57]: So your motion is to [3:24:58, 3:25:00]: As we'll be clear, it has [3:25:01, 3:25:04]: Stave to compare the insurance cost. [3:25:05, 3:25:09]: with GMA's insurance and our current insurance. [3:25:12, 3:25:14]: Just a second on that motion. [3:25:14, 3:25:30]: I think he said he was gonna do it anyway. We we got a consensus proof. Well that's that's well he needs a consensus and the deadline, I'm sorry, include um he will bring us back to the council by our April Work session. [3:25:33, 3:25:42]: Yes, I'll bring back what I found out after having discussions with with with GMA about the program and what it does and what it doesn't do. I'll bring that back to you guys. That shouldn't that's not a heavy lift. [3:25:43, 3:25:45]: I bring that I bring that on the twenty nine. [3:25:46, 3:25:49]: Uh try to check my name. I think it's a twenty six, sir. [3:25:49, 3:25:50]: Only six, sorry. [3:25:51, 3:25:52]: Twenty six, yes. [3:25:54, 3:25:55]: Okay, so [3:25:56, 3:25:59]: With the motion to be made, right? Is there a second emotion? [3:26:00, 3:26:15]: Well the this is the thing we we'd have to amend the agenda in order to do. Okay, so we have okay better consent. He's already agreed to do that. Why do you all keep changing the rules when it comes to me? [3:26:16, 3:26:21]: So I I'll try to get this straight agenda so that we can vote on this. [3:26:21, 3:26:23]: 'Cause I really want us to move along. [3:26:24, 3:26:26]: Mm standby. Miss Gantt? [3:26:27, 3:26:30]: No, Mayor Ford, I was just I had a comment. [3:26:31, 3:26:41]: It seems like we're doing resolutions for things that we usually do by email. I mean, if it's something an office task just to do some research, I don't I don't understand why we're [3:26:41, 3:26:58]: doing we could have a discussion. Normally we have a discussion on something. Not may not necessarily vote on it, but the staff said that they were gonna produce these this information to us. Right. I don't think we need to do everything by resolution. That costs. I mean we have to pay our attorneys to do that. [3:26:59, 3:27:19]: I I mean all the time, I mean the we're doing resolutions for every little bitty-bitty thing. And I don't think that's necessary. We haven't done that in the past. Well, I would think that we can discuss a lot of these things. And if our city manager says he's going to get it back with us, he can get it to us before the next work session because all you have to do is send [3:27:19, 3:27:24]: email says these are my comparison notes on girl we're not voting on it that's just information [3:27:25, 3:27:32]: So I think we've gotten off I think we've started a new pup procedure in doing things that [3:27:33, 3:27:38]: will get us into the weeds of every little bitty thing and and a lot of paperwork. [3:27:39, 3:27:41]: Um that is not necessary. [3:27:42, 3:27:48]: I believe that Mr. Gardner would get back to us but no later than the twenty at the latest the twenty-sixth of April. I'm pretty sure he'd do that with no problem. [3:27:49, 3:27:51]: All right. [3:27:52, 3:27:55]: I like to move forward with my motion. [3:27:56, 3:27:57]: Because [3:27:57, 3:28:00]: Every single concern I've raised. [3:28:00, 3:28:03]: Every item that I've brought to this agenda. [3:28:03, 3:28:05]: uh to this council. [3:28:05, 3:28:06]: To discuss. [3:28:07, 3:28:08]: Or for staff. [3:28:08, 3:28:09]: Um [3:28:10, 3:28:11]: To take action on. [3:28:12, 3:28:13]: None of it has moved. [3:28:14, 3:28:15]: None none of it. [3:28:15, 3:28:17]: This is what accountability looks like. [3:28:19, 3:28:20]: So every [3:28:20, 3:28:22]: Single action. [3:28:22, 3:28:24]: That the council approves here. [3:28:24, 3:28:25]: I'm expecting [3:28:26, 3:28:29]: That staff will come back in a reasonable amount of time. [3:28:30, 3:28:31]: with the deliverable. [3:28:31, 3:28:35]: Not saying that Mr. Gardner is not going to bring it back when he said he would. [3:28:36, 3:28:37]: But there have been instances. [3:28:38, 3:28:40]: Over the past two years and four months. [3:28:40, 3:28:41]: Staff is not delivered. [3:28:42, 3:28:47]: We're still waiting on procurement revisions that was approved by this council a year ago. [3:28:48, 3:28:48]: All right. [3:28:48, 3:28:53]: So you made a motion. So for me, absolutely, I want it on record. [3:28:54, 3:28:55]: So that we can hold. [3:28:56, 3:28:58]: Mr Gardner, accountable. [3:28:59, 3:29:01]: Okay, motion made. Is there a second to the motion? [3:29:02, 3:29:04]: Sir motion is a second to the motion. [3:29:07, 3:29:11]: Okay, Mr. Tom Marapotem Thomas uh second that motion. All in favor of motion, please indicate. [3:29:15, 3:29:24]: Okay, they're all posed. I got three, four, all pose. Mr. Mr. Blount, Ms. Gantton opposes, Mr. Blount. You oppose? [3:29:25, 3:29:26]: Mr Blount. [3:29:27, 3:29:31]: You're opposed. Okay. It's three three two. Motion passed. Okay. What's the other motion? [3:29:32, 3:29:33]: That was it? [3:29:33, 3:29:35]: That's the last one? Okay. [3:29:35, 3:29:37]: Uh alrighty. [3:29:38, 3:29:41]: So we were on uh [3:29:43, 3:29:45]: So council is gonna. [3:29:47, 3:30:03]: World number 10, man. Well well no well, so what it amounts to what's it is okay, uh with all this going on in reference to number nine, with given the uh we the impact of the five thousand dollars that the chief Kramer asked for. [3:30:04, 3:30:07]: What was what was the what was the final vote count on that? Five zero. [3:30:08, 3:30:12]: Okay, fantastic. Somehow I must have missed that piece for some reason. [3:30:12, 3:30:18]: We've been going around, round, around. Okay, number 10. Council consideration to approve City of Stockbridge record services policy. [3:30:19, 3:30:22]: Chief Trammer and Mr. Gardner, please. [3:30:28, 3:30:30]: Chief, you want to do the presentation? [3:30:30, 3:30:33]: Uh yes, sir. I've got it pulled up here. I just wanted to uh [3:30:35, 3:30:35]: Mm-hmm. [3:30:37, 3:30:45]: As you all are aware, with the implementation of the police department, uh it's gonna necessitate the uh utilization of record service. [3:30:45, 3:30:53]: In order to be able to accomplish our objectives. And furthermore, uh the city, as I understand, has been without a uh record service provider even for [3:30:53, 3:31:01]: um internal needs uh as it relates to uh city vehicles. So the first part of this is sort of a two-part presentation. The first part of it [3:31:02, 3:31:12]: is to approve the recor service policy, uh, which has been vetted by legal counsel and uh for which uh all of you should have been provided a copy of that policy. [3:31:13, 3:31:20]: When I go through this, it's gonna be a very high level overview of uh what the policy is, the need for the policy, what it covers, and some specific [3:31:21, 3:31:21]: Um [3:31:22, 3:31:25]: items as it relates to uh costs. [3:31:25, 3:31:29]: uh for record service. And then the subsequent follow up would be [3:31:29, 3:31:34]: to adopt uh by virtue of piggybacking off of Henry County's contract a record service. [3:31:35, 3:31:38]: For us to be able to utilize for um [3:31:39, 3:31:41]: City and for police department needs. [3:31:42, 3:31:49]: So obviously this policy is needed for these reasons here. This is uh a restatement from what's inside the policy. [3:31:50, 3:31:51]: Um, this policy [3:31:52, 3:31:56]: Establishes uh a method by which we will um enter into contracts. [3:31:57, 3:32:03]: It describes criteria by which the service operators must conduct themselves when governing business for the city. [3:32:03, 3:32:04]: Um it [3:32:04, 3:32:06]: Outlines um [3:32:07, 3:32:08]: Uh [3:32:09, 3:32:14]: The the requirements for the record company to maintain roadworthy vehicles to service the city. [3:32:14, 3:32:20]: Um it designates the type of equipment that they are required to uh maintain in order to service the city. [3:32:21, 3:32:24]: And also to make sure that the prices that they're charging the public [3:32:24, 3:32:26]: in the city are fair and reasonable. [3:32:27, 3:32:35]: Uh the policies uh needed, obviously, as we stated previously, uh, for city vehicles and other city property that uh would need to be towed. [3:32:36, 3:32:43]: And for the large part, it's needed for law enforcement purposes, such as removing traffic hazards, many of these things here that are listed legally uh parked vehicles. [3:32:44, 3:32:49]: Responding to emergencies, uh impounding vehicles from one facility to [3:32:49, 3:32:53]: uh the crime lab or um other evidence collection processing location. [3:32:54, 3:32:55]: So [3:32:55, 3:33:01]: The policy does not apply to services uh here initiated by the city or its representatives. [3:33:01, 3:33:06]: Um, including when owners or authorized user vehicle calls a specific record service, so [3:33:06, 3:33:06]: Um [3:33:07, 3:33:09]: Citizens that are at the scene are expected. [3:33:10, 3:33:12]: Uh, if the situation is [3:33:12, 3:33:13]: Um [3:33:13, 3:33:18]: Uh if if if it allows for them to request their own record service, we can assist in that process. [3:33:18, 3:33:22]: But we are not uh in the business of uh [3:33:22, 3:33:24]: you know, recommending those services. [3:33:24, 3:33:27]: uh without solicitation of the um [3:33:27, 3:33:29]: uh of of the the vehicle owner so [3:33:30, 3:33:30]: Um [3:33:31, 3:33:39]: If there's something that happens on private property again, uh we recommend them to the property owner to utilize their own record service, uh, but it does not um [3:33:40, 3:33:41]: Prohibit us from [3:33:41, 3:33:45]: Providing a recommendation for record service should they ask, but we want that onus to be [3:33:46, 3:33:48]: um on the uh individual entity. [3:33:49, 3:33:51]: So as it relates to towing service fees, um [3:33:52, 3:33:53]: This [3:33:54, 3:34:07]: Co this uh record service agreement um is a copy of the record service agreement that Henry County is utilizing at the moment. Uh we've made some modifications. We did negotiate or we did um actually amend our policies. [3:34:07, 3:34:14]: To reduce uh the fees payable to uh the citizens. So on the right hand side here is Henry County's. [3:34:14, 3:34:19]: Uh the cap for um additional extraordinary services was 500 through Henry County. [3:34:19, 3:34:26]: We reduced that to 300. So the total maximum charge for a standard vehicle would be six hundred dollars for a non-city vehicle. [3:34:26, 3:34:33]: or three hundred and sixty dollars for a city vehicle and you can see with the county it's eight hundred for non county and three sixty for a county vehicle. [3:34:34, 3:34:34]: Um [3:34:35, 3:34:38]: These are some other things that are listed in the policy uh to note. [3:34:38, 3:34:45]: Uh, we were able to negotiate with a record service company that they will not charge us an expense for a city vehicle for the first tow. [3:34:46, 3:34:49]: They will tow that at no expense to the city. [3:34:49, 3:34:55]: A second toe should it be needed, uh, would be thirty-five dollars and a third toe would be fifty-five. [3:34:55, 3:35:00]: Their current agreement with Henry County is thirty-five for every county vehicle that they tow. So [3:35:00, 3:35:05]: Uh, we were able to uh negotiate a better uh price as it relates to. [3:35:05, 3:35:07]: Dealing with uh the city vehicle. [3:35:08, 3:35:20]: The um this is the the storage cost here with the uh record companies, first twenty-four hours, no charge. If there's a a weekend or a holiday that they're not able to get their vehicle out, there's no charge. [3:35:20, 3:35:24]: Um the charge for a standard vehicle would be twenty-five dollars a day storage fee. [3:35:24, 3:35:34]: And then based on the um gross vehicle weight rating, which is the G VWR, um, that would increase depending on the size of the vehicle slightly. [3:35:36, 3:35:37]: Um [3:35:42, 3:35:51]: And and I know that's really a a high level overview. The Hen Henry County did put this out. It was a request uh for um uh [3:35:51, 3:35:51]: Yeah. [3:35:52, 3:35:56]: Quotes they did an RFQ last year for record service. [3:35:56, 3:36:00]: And uh Swatson Record Service is located in the city of Stockbridge. [3:36:01, 3:36:03]: uh won the contract for the northern part of the city. [3:36:04, 3:36:09]: And they are agreeable to the terms that we've just outlined in our record services agreement. [3:36:09, 3:36:13]: And so what we are looking to do. [3:36:13, 3:36:17]: And um well I guess I'm moving ahead of myself here, but but [3:36:17, 3:36:18]: Um [3:36:18, 3:36:23]: they kind of all relate together. Uh this is moving, I guess, more into item number eleven than it is 10. [3:36:24, 3:36:27]: So we'll have to backtrack on this, but I did want to point out here. [3:36:27, 3:36:31]: that they did put this out competitively for bids and that [3:36:31, 3:36:34]: Swanson's record service was agreeable to the terms that we listed. [3:36:34, 3:36:38]: In the uh record services policy there. [3:36:38, 3:36:46]: Um, they were found to be most competitive as it relates to the pricing that we previously had mentioned and was listed in the uh record services policy. [3:36:46, 3:36:55]: And before we get in too much to item number eleven, I wanna back up and just ask what questions, if any, there are for the record services policy. [3:36:55, 3:36:59]: Yeah, Chief, I do. And I'll start this off here. You know, uh I uh maybe I missed it. [3:37:00, 3:37:16]: But I'm gonna I think I'm gonna throw you a curveball here. All right. And what this amounts to is that this record service, okay, but some time ago, and I would imagine probably maybe three years or so ago, we passed an ordinance in reference to we're using record service for parking on the street. [3:37:17, 3:37:37]: Now, this policy right here that you're bringing forward, it doesn't actually, I don't think it addresses uh parking on the street when people, when vehicles are are illegally parked or parked on the street uh at a wrong at a different time. Implement that process, uh that ordinance or that process. You see, so unless I missed it, um, like I said, I'm probably thinking [3:37:37, 3:37:47]: throwing you a curveball here in this aspect, but I just kind of wonder about uh about whether or not uh if you thought about that or somebody's even mentioned that to you before, or do I just miss the boat here? [3:37:49, 3:37:56]: I probably moved through it too quickly, Mayor. Let me go back here. And what you're talking about, this is removing um the policy does address, as you can see here. [3:37:57, 3:38:00]: removing unattended or illegally parked vehicles from the public right of way. [3:38:00, 3:38:01]: Okay. All right. [3:38:02, 3:38:05]: So it so I I missed that then. All right, so be it. [3:38:05, 3:38:07]: If you got it covered, so be it. That's that's what I'm wanting to know. [3:38:08, 3:38:10]: Thank you. Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [3:38:14, 3:38:18]: Chief Trimer, we're piggybacking off of the [3:38:18, 3:38:21]: Um county contract with Wantson Toey. [3:38:22, 3:38:28]: Yes, ma'am. And and again, I got ahead of myself. I think the first thing we have to do is approve the record service policy. [3:38:29, 3:38:33]: And then move into that. But that's that's what our aim is, is to piggyback off of Henry County's [3:38:34, 3:38:37]: contract for record service which was competitively bid last year. [3:38:37, 3:38:41]: Okay, so then my next question is. [3:38:41, 3:38:44]: So don't we have to accept their terms and conditions? [3:38:45, 3:38:47]: Including the costs. [3:38:49, 3:38:50]: Or pricing. [3:38:52, 3:38:54]: I'm I'm not certain of that. Um [3:38:55, 3:38:56]: Are we not able to [3:38:56, 3:39:02]: Are we not able to have more agreeable terms than what the county had received when piggybacking off of the contract? [3:39:02, 3:39:06]: Well then you would be negotiating a different contract. [3:39:08, 3:39:09]: Separate from the county. [3:39:10, 3:39:14]: And correct me if I'm wrong, I'll rely on attorney Berry. [3:39:14, 3:39:20]: because you said we were piggybacking, meaning we will accept the terms, conditions. [3:39:21, 3:39:21]: The pricing. [3:39:22, 3:39:23]: Uh, the original [3:39:23, 3:39:25]: contract which is Himmer Counties. [3:39:25, 3:39:27]: So the fact that you're negotiating. [3:39:28, 3:39:30]: It is to our benefit. [3:39:31, 3:39:32]: However [3:39:33, 3:39:35]: If you're negotiating a separate contract, then [3:39:36, 3:39:38]: We would need to go through our own procurement processes. [3:39:39, 3:39:42]: Perhaps the post A R of P or R of Q. [3:39:44, 3:39:45]: Mm-hmm. [3:39:46, 3:39:47]: Oh, I'm sorry, go ahead. [3:39:47, 3:39:57]: Now what do you have to add with this? I'm kinda I think the prices, Chief, correct me if I'm wrong. The prices that the chief was saying are the prices that the person being towed [3:39:57, 3:39:58]: Would pay. [3:39:59, 3:40:04]: Which the city of course could set as opposed to the price that the city is paying. [3:40:04, 3:40:05]: The towing service. [3:40:06, 3:40:11]: So though those prices correct, Council Member Barber would be set by contract. [3:40:11, 3:40:17]: So if the city pays the towing service a hundred but charges the member of the public two hundred. [3:40:17, 3:40:21]: The city can set whatever prices it wants to charge the public. [3:40:21, 3:40:24]: Just can't set the prices that it's ch uh [3:40:24, 3:40:26]: that it's paying the towing company. [3:40:27, 3:40:27]: Gotcha. [3:40:28, 3:40:36]: Okay. I guess I I believe that's my understanding though, but Chief, correct me if I'm wrong. That makes sense. You you would have to correct me if I'm wrong. [3:40:36, 3:40:43]: So I need to, I guess I need to know um the costs that are associated or [3:40:44, 3:40:47]: I guess cost to the city or the person. Right. [3:40:48, 3:40:52]: And what the cost is per vehicle told. [3:40:52, 3:40:55]: under by the city under the contract. [3:40:56, 3:40:57]: It's two separate. [3:40:58, 3:41:00]: pricing structures there should be. [3:41:00, 3:41:03]: Right, yes. I need to see them separately. [3:41:03, 3:41:08]: I think Chief, did you did you just pull up the chart with the fees? [3:41:09, 3:41:11]: Yes, I can pull that up again here. [3:41:18, 3:41:28]: To attorney Berry's point, the um the difference in cost here is what's being charged to the actual citizen. So the citizens versus what would be what they're charging us. So that's still set at the [3:41:28, 3:41:30]: negotiated price that Henry County had. [3:41:31, 3:41:32]: Correct. [3:41:32, 3:41:33]: Okay. [3:41:33, 3:41:33]: Okay. [3:41:34, 3:41:35]: Okay. [3:41:35, 3:41:36]: Now um [3:41:36, 3:41:38]: One other question. [3:41:39, 3:41:39]: So [3:41:40, 3:41:44]: This current contract that Henry County has with Swanson Towing. [3:41:45, 3:41:47]: It expires in September. [3:41:48, 3:41:49]: So what happens? [3:41:50, 3:41:54]: With the services that Swanson would be providing us. [3:41:54, 3:41:55]: Under this contract. [3:41:57, 3:41:58]: What happened, Mr. Berry? [3:42:00, 3:42:00]: Or [3:42:01, 3:42:02]: But it would [3:42:02, 3:42:08]: Council member, I I believe and I I'm trying to pull up the contract. I believe it's got one more extension beyond that, I believe. [3:42:08, 3:42:13]: But to your point, then we would have the city would have to rebit it. This gives us an option in the interim. [3:42:14, 3:42:15]: Uh [3:42:16, 3:42:17]: For now. [3:42:17, 3:42:20]: So when is the county decides? [3:42:20, 3:42:22]: to go with another vendor then. [3:42:23, 3:42:24]: In September. [3:42:24, 3:42:24]: Okay. [3:42:25, 3:42:29]: Oh right. As it yeah, the the the city would then have to rebid it. [3:42:30, 3:42:35]: So is this is this is an interim measure which allows us to just get something up and going quickly. [3:42:35, 3:42:36]: Mm-hmm. [3:42:36, 3:42:38]: Okay, so if we're talking about [3:42:38, 3:42:40]: Approving [3:42:40, 3:42:41]: This contract [3:42:41, 3:42:42]: Um [3:42:43, 3:42:43]: Hey. [3:42:44, 3:42:49]: If we're talking about the council approving this piggyback contract with Swanson Towing under Henry County. [3:42:50, 3:42:51]: It's gonna expire in September. [3:42:52, 3:42:56]: Our police department isn't due to roll out until July first. [3:42:57, 3:42:58]: So July first. [3:42:59, 3:43:00]: August [3:43:00, 3:43:01]: And then September. [3:43:02, 3:43:03]: Um [3:43:04, 3:43:06]: We should be putting out a solicitation. [3:43:07, 3:43:07]: Of our own. [3:43:08, 3:43:09]: Like soon. [3:43:12, 3:43:14]: Am I wrong in my thinking, Mr. Gardner? [3:43:14, 3:43:20]: Mr. We we we have we you know with with with the approval of this [3:43:20, 3:43:22]: contract. Obviously it it [3:43:23, 3:43:29]: If we double double check to make sure that it doesn't have a renewal, but if if Henry County goes away from theirs. [3:43:29, 3:43:35]: Um we s this is kind of a stop gap measure, so we still have an opportunity to put it out to bed. [3:43:35, 3:43:38]: We can get working on the scope on the scope of services. [3:43:39, 3:43:43]: Um and have that ready to go in June. [3:43:43, 3:43:49]: And have some have a boy have a c uh entity on board, whether it's this guy or somebody else. [3:43:49, 3:43:51]: By uh by August [3:43:51, 3:44:11]: Um, but we'll be in contact with Henry County to see what they're going to do in terms of continuing the contract for an additional year. But I think as as Jeremy said, I think this is the stock. Obviously, we need something in place. This allows us once we get rolling July 1 to be able to have that record service in place to assist us. And then we have to bid it out. [3:44:11, 3:44:18]: out, we'll bid it out, but we'll be in conversations if we have the one year renewal and Henry County is going to exercise that one year renewal. [3:44:18, 3:44:22]: Obviously that gives us even more time to evaluate how our [3:44:22, 3:44:25]: how our level of services with this vendor. [3:44:25, 3:44:39]: and move forward either we don't like them in the couple of months we're dealing with them, we bid it out or we like what we're getting. We'll continue, Henry County continues and then rebid it out next year when it actually um the contract series ends. [3:44:39, 3:44:48]: Henry contract goes through 20, but it can go through 2024. It could. We don't know what Henry County will do. [3:44:49, 3:44:55]: So that's that's this current contract expires 2021 in September of 2020. [3:44:56, 3:44:57]: Twenty two, sorry. [3:44:57, 3:44:58]: Um [3:44:58, 3:45:00]: And we can't we shouldn't rely. [3:45:01, 3:45:03]: on just Hammer County. [3:45:04, 3:45:13]: Right, but we could also piggyback off another jurisdiction at that point as well. But uh your but your point is understood. Yeah we we've got a short runway perhaps here. [3:45:13, 3:45:19]: No, it's not short. I mean, we could put out a solicitation of our own. [3:45:19, 3:45:20]: Right now. [3:45:21, 3:45:23]: And have it come back to the council. [3:45:23, 3:45:26]: By the end of June. [3:45:26, 3:45:26]: All right. [3:45:27, 3:45:31]: Before the implementation or the rollout of the police department. [3:45:33, 3:45:34]: Well [3:45:34, 3:45:50]: I if it's okay, I I would I would l at least like for us to have this in place because obviously we still have a lot of other solicitations going out, but this would give us time in order order to program it in the schedule and get it done and have it ready and have us have uh a vendor chosen by [3:45:51, 3:45:51]: August [3:45:52, 3:45:52]: Um [3:45:53, 3:45:55]: And move forward with our own solicitation. [3:45:55, 3:45:59]: Especially we get we get favorable favorable um [3:45:59, 3:46:01]: Numbers, fees, structure. [3:46:02, 3:46:15]: that we move forward in earnest with that versus continuing with Henry County. But right now, this at least allow the police department to continue bringing on their staff and we can program this into our solicitation rotation. [3:46:15, 3:46:25]: and get it out, like I said, by June and have have a vendor on board by August. Have you guys vote on the vendor to start in earnest when this contract ends, whether Henry County continues it or not. [3:46:28, 3:46:33]: But at least we'll be able at least at least we'll council member Barber, at least we'll be able to [3:46:33, 3:46:34]: Have [3:46:35, 3:46:37]: in place um [3:46:37, 3:46:51]: what the vendors are going to charge in terms of fees versus what we're doing now. And if it actually looks like it's it's prudent for us to stay, if Henry County stays with this vendor and it's prudent based on what we get, we'll stay. But at least we'll be able to see those comparisons. [3:46:53, 3:46:53]: Thank you. [3:46:54, 3:46:55]: You're welcome. [3:46:56, 3:46:58]: Uh uh Map, any other questions? [3:47:01, 3:47:05]: All right, for no questions, council need a motion to accept uh this record service policy. [3:47:06, 3:47:07]: So move. [3:47:07, 3:47:08]: Sir a second. [3:47:11, 3:47:12]: Ms. Ms. Gantty seconded in this motion. [3:47:13, 3:47:20]: I second okay great. No further conversation. All in favor of this policy, please or motion, please raise your hand. [3:47:22, 3:47:24]: Okay. [3:47:24, 3:47:28]: I wanted to ask um Councilman Alexander if he would put in his motion. [3:47:29, 3:47:31]: about a potential alternate. [3:47:31, 3:47:32]: Bendar. [3:47:33, 3:47:35]: As Mr. Gardner mentioned. [3:47:36, 3:47:41]: Certainly I think he's gonna do it anyway, but I mean I don't I don't see the harm in it. [3:47:41, 3:47:42]: But yeah, sure. [3:47:43, 3:47:44]: We already voted. [3:47:46, 3:47:51]: The vote was taken. I mean Okay, no problem. I mean it's gonna be done. You Mr. Gardner, you gonna handle it? [3:47:52, 3:47:52]: Mm. [3:47:53, 3:47:53]: Yes, sir. [3:47:54, 3:48:07]: All right, what's taken? So I will abstain then. Um I'll give my reasons for abstaining. I'm abstaining because the current contract with Henry County. [3:48:07, 3:48:11]: Expires September of twenty twenty two. [3:48:13, 3:48:20]: I asked the question of an alternate supplier for us or alternate. [3:48:20, 3:48:21]: Record service. [3:48:22, 3:48:24]: I suggested that staff [3:48:25, 3:48:27]: Prepare the solicitation. [3:48:27, 3:48:29]: They began advertising it. [3:48:29, 3:48:30]: Now. [3:48:30, 3:48:34]: So that the council can make an award or approve an award. [3:48:34, 3:48:35]: Prior to [3:48:36, 3:48:37]: The execution. [3:48:38, 3:48:39]: A rollout. [3:48:39, 3:48:41]: Of our own police department. [3:48:43, 3:48:43]: That's all. [3:48:43, 3:49:03]: All right, 401. All right, uh thank you, council. Uh council consideration to award annual contract for record services to Supreme Uh Trio LLC, uh, which is a Swanson D DBA, Swanson towing and recovery, piggybacking off the Henry County contract number eight C. [3:49:03, 3:49:06]: Dash twenty-one dash ninety-eight. [3:49:07, 3:49:10]: Uh Mr Gardner and Chief Tremor, please. [3:49:13, 3:49:17]: Yes, Mayor and Council, as was stated previously, we're seeking to [3:49:17, 3:49:22]: uh piggyback off of the Henry County uh contract that was re that was awarded. [3:49:23, 3:49:28]: Uh September twenty eighth of twenty twenty one. This is a copy of the notice to award. [3:49:28, 3:49:32]: Uh with two mutually agreed upon renewals um [3:49:32, 3:49:37]: Set to expire September thirtieth, twenty twenty two, to the point uh that was made previously. [3:49:37, 3:49:42]: uh should they not continue with record service and obviously we would um have to [3:49:42, 3:49:43]: Um [3:49:43, 3:49:50]: have an alternate solution, but again, just to uh reiterate the point that was made by Mr. Gardner is this is a uh is an interim. [3:49:51, 3:49:54]: solution in order to allow us to be able to [3:49:54, 3:49:55]: Um [3:49:56, 3:49:59]: to implement a record service um [3:50:00, 3:50:05]: By July one, we're more operational to be able to carry out uh public safety uh related. [3:50:06, 3:50:07]: Um [3:50:07, 3:50:08]: Need. [3:50:08, 3:50:09]: From um [3:50:10, 3:50:17]: a uh a record service. So that's a copy of the contract here. I believe that you all um have this. [3:50:17, 3:50:20]: uh the contract um information. [3:50:20, 3:50:21]: And um [3:50:22, 3:50:25]: This is the um [3:50:25, 3:50:30]: resolution on the RFQ that was put out soliciting uh the contracts. [3:50:33, 3:50:41]: And uh as was stated, this is just an overview. So uh if you all would like to go through this, again, it was in your agenda packet, you're seeing the same thing that I'm seeing here. [3:50:42, 3:50:44]: So the request would be to um [3:50:45, 3:50:50]: Piggyback off of Henry County's contract to provide um immediate record service. [3:50:51, 3:50:54]: For uh purposes of public safety. [3:50:56, 3:51:01]: Questions counsel for Chief Tremor. Yes, Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [3:51:01, 3:51:06]: Okay, so the last item I got a confused. That was just for the review of the policy. [3:51:07, 3:51:11]: um i know i can't go back and change my vote if i could i would approve it [3:51:11, 3:51:14]: This is the item that I will um [3:51:16, 3:51:20]: either abstain from voting on, depending on what the motion is. [3:51:21, 3:51:23]: Any other comments, uh council? [3:51:25, 3:51:30]: Need a motion to uh accept this particular piggybacking off this particular contract. [3:51:32, 3:51:33]: Is there a motion to approve? [3:51:36, 3:51:38]: Councilwoman Barber, you want to make the motion? [3:51:41, 3:51:48]: Um Mayor Ford. Yes, Mayor. Um I will uh make a motion to approve um [3:51:50, 3:51:54]: piggybacking off of the current Henry County contract. [3:51:56, 3:51:59]: With also staff uh preparing. [3:52:00, 3:52:01]: In advertising. [3:52:01, 3:52:04]: For an alternate record service. [3:52:05, 3:52:08]: Considering the current contract expires. [3:52:09, 3:52:12]: September of twenty twenty two. I second. [3:52:13, 3:52:15]: Uh Miss Gan seconds there. Any further discussion? [3:52:16, 3:52:17]: If not all in favor of motion, please indicate. [3:52:19, 3:52:21]: Okay, unanimous decision. Thank you very much. [3:52:23, 3:52:28]: All righty. I asked, am I able to change my vote on the last the last item? [3:52:30, 3:52:35]: Well, I I don't know after the legal procedure. I think we've already passed that. We've already been passed. Let's keep moving on. [3:52:36, 3:52:37]: Um [3:52:37, 3:52:41]: So I want to change my vote from abstaining to approving it. [3:52:42, 3:52:47]: Well, as far as I'm concerned, we need to move on. You've already voted we already voted, so we need to move on. [3:52:47, 3:52:50]: Um well I like to seek um counsel from [3:52:50, 3:52:51]: The attorney. [3:52:52, 3:52:53]: Mr. Berry. [3:52:54, 3:52:55]: I think is [3:52:55, 3:53:03]: You're allowed to do a motion for reconsideration and then that would be voted on. And then we revote on the whole underlying thing. [3:53:03, 3:53:04]: Right. Yeah. [3:53:05, 3:53:09]: But it's a motion to recon it's a motion to reconsider if you're on the prevailing side. [3:53:11, 3:53:14]: What's uh right, if on the prevailing side, right, right, right. [3:53:15, 3:53:18]: But she's not on prevailing side, she'll stand. That's correct. [3:53:18, 3:53:38]: All right, all right, so we'll let's move on. Council consideration approved the public works department request to renew the annual contract RFP 2020-0026 with site engineering incorporated, on-call water, sewer emergency and operational repair, maintenance and construction services, an amount of$255,000. [3:53:39, 3:53:45]: As approved in the FY twenty twenty two storm water budget. Mr. Aaron, please. [3:53:45, 3:53:50]: Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. The annual on-call water and sewer emergency [3:53:50, 3:54:05]: Repair was solicited for bid on November 11, 2020. It closed on February 25th, 2021. It was awarded to site engineering on April 12, 2021. So this is the first renewal of that contract. [3:54:05, 3:54:17]: And we're asking council to approve the renewal. If you notice as you drive up and down North Henry Boulevard nowadays, you don't have to dodge all of those manholes that were causing problems. Site engineering did that. [3:54:18, 3:54:38]: On Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday, stormwater staff was just inundated with phone calls from residents concerned about storm drainage systems malfunctioning and not functioning properly. I know we received numerous calls from Lambert Drive and Spring Street. But one of the places we did not receive calls from was on turning point. I'm pretty sure a lot. [3:54:38, 3:54:40]: of council members are familiar with that. [3:54:40, 3:54:52]: site engineering just completed a stormwater project there for us. And also as a result of the rain, we've got two projects that we're proposing to do. One is on Pathwood Lane and one is on Creekview Overlook. [3:54:52, 3:55:12]: We also met with five residents today about a malfunctioning storm drainage. So site engineering has very been instrumental in addressing some stormwater issues and situations. I think a lot of times because these structures are underground about the season until it rains, but that five and a half inches of rain wins then. [3:55:12, 3:55:19]: And thirsty showed us some deficiencies in our stormwater system. And we've got to continue to move forward with making repairs. [3:55:19, 3:55:32]: And we've been had this utility since I think it was 2004, July 12th, when it was implemented. So we want to continue to make repairs as our permit requires us to do. [3:55:33, 3:55:38]: And I'll answer any questions if anybody has any questions. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [3:55:38, 3:55:41]: Mr. Aaron, when did this contract expire? [3:55:42, 3:55:51]: This is the first renewal. It has up to five one year renewals. This would be the first renewal under this contract that was approved on April 12th, 2021. [3:55:52, 3:55:58]: Well that when the question the question is when does it if we don't renew, when would it expire? It'll expire tomorrow. [3:55:59, 3:56:01]: And we're just getting this today. [3:56:01, 3:56:05]: Well, it came before you previously, it was table. It was table. [3:56:07, 3:56:10]: Mr. Gardner, all due respect to everybody on this call. [3:56:11, 3:56:18]: The date that this was tabled could have came back before the day before before the contract expired. [3:56:19, 3:56:23]: This has been this has been my concern when we're getting this. [3:56:24, 3:56:25]: When was it taken? [3:56:26, 3:56:28]: It was February. [3:56:30, 3:56:30]: So [3:56:31, 3:56:39]: We're two months out. We could have got it. We could have got a the council meeting after that for whatever w whatever reason it was tabled for, whatever we had to do. [3:56:39, 3:56:44]: I'm just I'm just for me. I don't know about my other colleagues. I'm just saying for me. [3:56:45, 3:56:48]: And I've I and I said this at the last council meeting. [3:56:49, 3:56:52]: I don't want to have to renew contracts a day before. [3:56:52, 3:56:55]: Well, we don't have a council meeting in between making decisions. [3:56:57, 3:56:59]: And I'm gonna prove this because [3:57:00, 3:57:06]: Um, you know, just because of where we at with it and it's renewal. But I'm just saying that we have to bring [3:57:07, 3:57:10]: If something is table, we have to bring this stuff back to council. [3:57:11, 3:57:16]: It is f if we had went a different direction, if we would recommend to go a different direction. [3:57:16, 3:57:24]: We still would have to do what we had to do tonight, Nick, and and in the inspired tomorrow. I just want to see things just in a more timely manner. That's all. [3:57:25, 3:57:26]: And and and Mr. Blount. [3:57:26, 3:57:42]: Thank you. And and that's why it came to you guys when it came to you in February, but it was table and and and quite frankly, if we brought it back in March, we weren't guaranteed that it was gonna get voted on or give us enough time to to put it out to bid. Why was it table? And [3:57:43, 3:57:46]: I can't remember Vanessa, do you I think you [3:57:47, 3:57:48]: Why why was this table? [3:57:48, 3:57:55]: Back in February. There was some issue. I'm sorry, go ahead. No, I'm sorry, Vanessa. Can you can you help us out? [3:57:56, 3:57:56]: Yeah. [3:57:57, 3:58:17]: I'll say the reason for I'm sorry, Vanessa, the reason for we just approved the the last minutes from February 14th and the 22nd, I think, of February Mayor, all due respect, let me get this from Miss Holliday real quick. Well on the table back in February, Miss Holliday. There was a motion uh made by Mayor Pro Tem Thomas. Um [3:58:17, 3:58:18]: to [3:58:19, 3:58:20]: Denied the renewal. [3:58:21, 3:58:22]: And put it out for be it. [3:58:23, 3:58:30]: And there was confusion and I believe you uh council member member Blount had asked the question because at that time [3:58:31, 3:58:32]: It was being asked. [3:58:32, 3:58:33]: To [3:58:35, 3:58:36]: Increase the contract. [3:58:37, 3:58:47]: with it coming up for renewal in April. And you were saying it was too close to the renewal to be doing that at that time. [3:58:47, 3:58:48]: And [3:58:48, 3:58:56]: So the there was a lot of questions around it and based on is that in the minutes or you thinking that's what happened? It is that is in the minutes, sir. In the minutes. [3:58:57, 3:59:05]: Well, if that's the case, then why are we just not getting it back? This if if those were the the concerns. [3:59:05, 3:59:08]: Then why are we getting it back a day before it's supposed to expire? [3:59:12, 3:59:19]: And and Councilmember Blount, um, I'll I'll take responsibility because obviously this is under me. [3:59:19, 3:59:20]: But [3:59:20, 3:59:24]: You know, we recognized that we didn't have enough time to get a bit out. [3:59:24, 3:59:30]: And I told the public works director to put it back on the agenda so council can either vote it up. [3:59:30, 3:59:31]: Or voted down. [3:59:32, 3:59:39]: And allow us to move forward. And I asked, Is this a contractor that we've had issues with? And he expressly said, No. [3:59:40, 3:59:43]: Um that they've done good work. So I said for whatever we have budgeted. [3:59:44, 3:59:47]: That's what we will carry up for to the rest of the year. [3:59:47, 3:59:49]: If council approved it, if they don't. [3:59:49, 3:59:53]: We'll go to an on call situation where if we have a [3:59:53, 4:00:03]: two 21 inch waterline berths, we'll have to hire whoever's available and get charged whatever that fee is, and we'll bring it back as an emergency procurement. [4:00:03, 4:00:13]: What's it but for for renewal for renewal of this contract, what's in the contract? How many days do we have to give them if we don't renew? [4:00:16, 4:00:28]: If if if if if the one year up in council does not approve the and hold on, I'm not let me not that's there's a there's a grace period of days of no and the reason I'm asking this. [4:00:28, 4:00:31]: Is that I don't want this council to have to get into [4:00:31, 4:00:36]: continue to writing resolutions for something that should be done by department heads. [4:00:37, 4:00:42]: Well, I and and quite frankly, so I mean, to be quite honest, and I sh I I shot an email to the mayor. [4:00:43, 4:00:52]: um having that one dis d discussion around when we get to a point where we have where we adopt a multi-year contract. [4:00:53, 4:01:01]: That we, the staff, admin evaluate those contracts based on criteria, whether the workers perform admirably. [4:01:02, 4:01:07]: Are there number of complaints regarding the work or the quality of work and if they get a favorable score? [4:01:07, 4:01:11]: And you if it's a one year contract with a two year renewal. [4:01:12, 4:01:21]: That can happen administratively as long as the cost doesn't go up. That way we keep projects moving because what happens is you're gonna have a contractor. [4:01:21, 4:01:41]: That that literally has four projects that they're working on on behalf of the city, and the contract expires because of the scope and the size of the complexity of the work. And now you're caught in the conundrum because no other engineer is gonna go back behind them and want to do their work without starting over or charging you some exorbitant price to absorb. [4:01:41, 4:01:42]: [14502.6, 14506.8]: Well what but but Mr. Garner, what I'm saying and and and to you also, Mr. Aaron. [4:01:47, 4:01:52]: Anytime I've ever said anything since I've been on this council about any contract. [4:01:52, 4:01:56]: It was done in a timely fashion that those contracts could be brought back. [4:01:56, 4:02:16]: Nothing I have ever said on any contract would put us in this position. And that's decision by department heads. And that's not what I was saying, Mr. Ms. Blount. What I'm saying is if we brought it in back to you guys in March, and let's say you voted down, then we had to put out a solicitation that has to be at a minimum of what 35, 45 days. [4:02:16, 4:02:18]: Days, you're already in April. [4:02:18, 4:02:23]: Well I would I wouldn't appreciate that. So we we we wouldn't have met that window. [4:02:23, 4:02:38]: If it was denied in February rather than table, that would have given us time to put a solicitation out and at least get in, even though they might have been on a contract a month and hope to God that nothing happened, that we could have a contract in and approved by you guys and may have a vendor in. [4:02:39, 4:02:42]: But that's a probable probable and that's an assumption. [4:02:42, 4:02:48]: But to still have it back to us in 30 days to see what would happen. Well, it can't come it couldn't come up. [4:02:49, 4:02:53]: It couldn't come back to you in thirty days. Had you at you let's say for instance in February [4:02:53, 4:02:55]: In February had you denied it. [4:02:56, 4:02:58]: And I mean i and you denied it in February. [4:02:59, 4:03:12]: We'd have to turn around and put a solicitation out. 30 days put you in March. You still have to review that, put a review committee on. No, no, we we we table, we table, if you say we tabled it in February, back in March. [4:03:13, 4:03:20]: Understood. And had you and and if we ran into the same issue where you didn't approve it or you denied it. [4:03:20, 4:03:23]: If you didn't approve it, you denied it or table it. [4:03:23, 4:03:24]: We're still where we are. [4:03:25, 4:03:31]: if you would approve if you didn't approve it. And so at this point, yes. Should we brought it back in March? [4:03:31, 4:03:45]: Yes, we but Mr. Garner, that's my point exactly. Nothing changed. That's my point. Nothing changed. That's not only thing that should have been done was to be brought back to us because nothing changed from when we table it to now. [4:03:45, 4:03:47]: Only thing that could have been better. [4:03:47, 4:03:56]: Was to bring it back to us 30 days prior to now. And and and and yes, and Mr. Blount, we we that's our fault. We take responsibility for that. [4:03:56, 4:04:04]: Um, that's one real eat. Um, but like I said, it even if we brought it in March and your state council decided not to vote on it. [4:04:05, 4:04:06]: Or voted down. [4:04:06, 4:04:17]: we still will be where we are. But yes, we should have brought it and at least give council opportunity again to hear and weigh on it. And that's our fault and that's our responsibility we take credit for it. [4:04:18, 4:04:20]: Okay, Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. [4:04:21, 4:04:22]: Okay. [4:04:23, 4:04:28]: If if if everyone would recall, um there were no [4:04:28, 4:04:30]: projects at that time. [4:04:31, 4:04:33]: I I moved to [4:04:33, 4:04:41]: Uh put it out for bed. And I'm gonna ask Mrs. Holliday what was the response uh to that, but I distinctly remember. [4:04:42, 4:04:45]: And Councilman Blount, you may remember this as well. [4:04:45, 4:04:49]: Uh that there was two hundred and fifty five thousand still in the budget. There was no project. [4:04:49, 4:04:52]: And I I motioned to [4:04:52, 4:04:55]: uh put it out for bid, but I can't recall [4:04:55, 4:04:59]: Um the outcome. So, Madam Clerk, can you [4:04:59, 4:05:00]: Recall [4:05:00, 4:05:03]: Did the mayor bring that up for [4:05:05, 4:05:10]: The motion did he based on uh based on the minutes from the twenty second, there was a motion. [4:05:11, 4:05:13]: Um initially to [4:05:14, 4:05:17]: deny and put out for bid and there was no [4:05:17, 4:05:18]: Second. [4:05:19, 4:05:22]: And then the next time there was a motion to deny. [4:05:23, 4:05:26]: And put out forbid Councilman Barber seconded it. [4:05:26, 4:05:27]: And then [4:05:27, 4:05:30]: Um, with all the questioning around it. [4:05:31, 4:05:33]: Again, as stated before, um [4:05:33, 4:05:36]: Of the city manager thought that it needed more clarification. [4:05:36, 4:05:38]: And the item was tabled. [4:05:39, 4:05:45]: And see, and and the thing about on call is it's more of a of an emergency call. [4:05:45, 4:05:52]: Um and we should have gone forward and and and and actually put it out for bid and we would have had time. [4:05:52, 4:05:57]: See that goes back to and I think Councilwoman Barber said this earlier. [4:05:57, 4:06:01]: You know, we we give directive, but for whatever reason. [4:06:01, 4:06:03]: They get caught up in [4:06:03, 4:06:06]: Somewhere. I don't I don't know why, but [4:06:07, 4:06:07]: Um [4:06:08, 4:06:11]: That's all we had to do. So again, we have to learn. [4:06:11, 4:06:12]: Um [4:06:14, 4:06:18]: Well, I mean, hey, you know, I mean it's done now and here we are now, but [4:06:18, 4:06:19]: Um [4:06:20, 4:06:23]: We have to learn from these mistakes that we're making, but [4:06:24, 4:06:28]: Uh it should have gone after be it like it was a motion and I don't know [4:06:29, 4:06:33]: And and and Mr. City Manager, if you suggested, you know, that that [4:06:34, 4:06:38]: We table it out. We assume that you were going to [4:06:39, 4:06:56]: And look into it and and that's what and that's what we did. And and like I said, our fault for not bringing it back, my fault for not directing the the department had to bring it back la um last month. But I mean, like I said, I mean this is a fresh solicitation that this went out in 2021. [4:06:57, 4:06:59]: I mean you you typically [4:06:59, 4:07:10]: want to give that contractor an opportunity to do the work, which my understanding in talking to Dashers, they did. They did the work. There was no issues with the quality of the work that they rendered. [4:07:10, 4:07:13]: So when it comes forward for the renewal. [4:07:14, 4:07:15]: Um [4:07:15, 4:07:20]: You know, because we start, you know, one of the things we have to look out to, and I think I mentioned this to a couple of you guys. [4:07:21, 4:07:25]: You know, when we're we're we're a business entity. We just happen to be [4:07:25, 4:07:25]: Public. [4:07:26, 4:07:29]: But how how other businesses view us. [4:07:30, 4:07:31]: is important. [4:07:31, 4:07:46]: regardless of the private business or public business. And when we put a solicitation out and if there's no issues and we keep bidding it out on an annual basis, at some point nobody's want to come in and do that job and we won't get any solicitations at all. [4:07:46, 4:07:50]: I mean I just came from a city with w if you if you let me [4:07:50, 4:07:52]: We couldn't get people to bid on these points. [4:07:53, 4:08:04]: This is how bad it was because of some of the same similar issues we're dealing with now. It's because they would kill contracts in the middle of the year, do all of this stuff, and no one wanted to do business with each point. [4:08:04, 4:08:12]: For risk insurance, regular insurance, contracts to do work. And if they did, they charge us some absorbing price, which we had to pay. [4:08:13, 4:08:23]: But it took us a while to get people to realize to have faith in us as a public and business entity to say, hey, okay, new leadership, new management, new folks. [4:08:24, 4:08:30]: Take a chance on doing business with us. But how we do how we conduct business in the business realm affects us. [4:08:31, 4:08:36]: And that's what I just wanted to get like so let me ask this question now, Mr. Gunn. Um so [4:08:36, 4:08:43]: If this contract is not approved tonight and we go forward and and put it out, I understand that. [4:08:44, 4:08:51]: Uh Mr. Aaron and I I I I can hear what you're saying already, but I'm just asking this question. So if it's not approved tonight, then where are we? [4:08:52, 4:08:59]: We're at the point that if we have an emergency situation, like I said, if we have a twelve inch water main that breaks and our folks can't fix it. [4:09:00, 4:09:05]: We will call whoever answers the call and pay whatever price they charge us. [4:09:05, 4:09:08]: To fix it because water is part of life safety. [4:09:09, 4:09:12]: And we have to provide that service to the residents, regardless. [4:09:12, 4:09:19]: Mr. Thomas, do you mind if I interject for one second, please? Well, actually, yeah, if Mr. Mayor Pro Tem's done, I'm going to Miss Barber. [4:09:20, 4:09:22]: She's not he's probably not done. I just wonder. [4:09:22, 4:09:25]: No, no, I mean object because [4:09:25, 4:09:34]: Because it was my baby. Um move on to me. Are you recognizing my hand now, Mayor? I I am finished, Mayor. I am finished. Okay. Miss Barber, please. [4:09:35, 4:09:35]: Thank you. [4:09:36, 4:09:36]: Um [4:09:37, 4:09:41]: So and I appreciate you, Mr. Gardner, for accepting responsibility. [4:09:42, 4:09:48]: I expected when you suggested that we table this item back in February. [4:09:50, 4:09:52]: You making the suggestion that we table it. [4:09:52, 4:09:55]: Is the reason why I rescinded? [4:09:55, 4:09:58]: My second to the motion that Mayor Pro Tem. [4:10:01, 4:10:04]: So the fact that it did not come back to us. [4:10:04, 4:10:07]: And now it's coming to us a day before it expires. [4:10:07, 4:10:10]: This puts us again in the same situation. [4:10:11, 4:10:14]: that I've been talking about for two years and four months. [4:10:14, 4:10:17]: It's almost as if staff is making the decision for us. [4:10:17, 4:10:19]: They're just forcing us to approve it. [4:10:20, 4:10:21]: No, I'm not going to approve. [4:10:22, 4:10:24]: any contracts, whether it's a renewal, [4:10:25, 4:10:28]: Or whether it is an award, please. [4:10:28, 4:10:29]: Do not. [4:10:29, 4:10:31]: Bring us well. [4:10:31, 4:10:32]: For me. [4:10:32, 4:10:36]: I I will be abstaining for this um because [4:10:36, 4:10:42]: I want to be able to make my decision based on all of the information that is provided to me. [4:10:43, 4:10:47]: I was waiting for you, Mr. Gardner, to provide information to us. [4:10:47, 4:10:49]: But we're just getting this today. [4:10:50, 4:10:59]: Please look at the operations of not just procurement, but even with Mr. Aaron when this item was brought to us. [4:10:59, 4:11:01]: how it was presented to us. [4:11:02, 4:11:06]: He wanted to increase the award amount to match the budget amount. [4:11:07, 4:11:14]: Please look at the overall operations of our city. Things are just too loosey-goosey. [4:11:14, 4:11:21]: Yes, ma'am, but there are checks and balances in place to allow the governing body to govern. [4:11:21, 4:11:28]: I certainly um would have hoped that this would have been an item. And I see that we [4:11:28, 4:11:33]: awarded this contract just last year. So bringing us a renewal. [4:11:33, 4:11:35]: It's perfectly all right. [4:11:35, 4:11:37]: But you give us the time. [4:11:37, 4:11:40]: Because you don't know what our decision may be. [4:11:40, 4:11:45]: So a contract like this that requires the council's approval for renewal [4:11:45, 4:11:50]: Please allow at least ninety days or so. [4:11:50, 4:11:51]: In advance. [4:11:51, 4:11:53]: Prior to the expiration. [4:11:54, 4:11:55]: Of the contract. [4:11:56, 4:11:57]: So that council. [4:11:57, 4:12:00]: can make the decision on how to move forward. [4:12:01, 4:12:04]: As a part of the staff bringing this to us today. [4:12:04, 4:12:06]: and dropping it in our in our lap. [4:12:07, 4:12:10]: I learned a very valuable valuable lesson last year. [4:12:11, 4:12:12]: I will not. [4:12:12, 4:12:14]: Approve any more contracts. [4:12:15, 4:12:15]: That are brought. [4:12:16, 4:12:17]: Here. [4:12:17, 4:12:18]: From me to vote on. [4:12:18, 4:12:19]: at the very last minute. [4:12:20, 4:12:21]: Absolutely not. [4:12:21, 4:12:30]: So please, sir, take a look at the overall operations, how we're functioning here. I do certainly agree with you, the public's pers perception. [4:12:31, 4:12:32]: But it starts with stabs. [4:12:33, 4:12:38]: and how these items are added to the agenda and how they're being presented to us. [4:12:39, 4:12:39]: Understood. [4:12:40, 4:12:41]: Thank you, sir. [4:12:41, 4:12:43]: You're welcome. May I come may I come in? [4:12:44, 4:12:46]: Oh boy M is there. [4:12:47, 4:12:51]: When contracts get ready to be renewed, I get a form from procurement. [4:12:52, 4:13:10]: It's contract. We don't have the dates when contract expires. She asked some questions about the vendor. Are you satisfied with the work they've done? It's like three or four questions. Would you prefer to renew the vendor? And I check, yes, if we're gonna renew the vendor. And they typically present those contract renewals. [4:13:11, 4:13:31]: But this is just one that I'm presenting because I was telling Mr. Gardner, I'm like, it's gonna expire and we're gonna have to do another solicitation. And if something comes up, we don't have anything in place to address that. Typically, the department does not bring the contract forward for renewal, but I'm just, you know, I went to Mr. Gardner, I'm like, when all [4:13:31, 4:13:37]: those calls came in Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday from the rain. I'm like, we gotta have something placed. [4:13:38, 4:13:49]: If if council wants to rebid it, then I'm okay with that too, but we still gotta have something in place to cover us in case there's an emergency, just like a couple of weeks ago up by the QT. [4:13:49, 4:14:09]: We were, I mean, very close to having to call somebody in because we don't keep all the materials on hand. We can afford to have material for everything in our system on hand. And that's why we have that on call. If there's an emergency that is beyond what we can do, then we have the authority. [4:14:09, 4:14:11]: to call that entity to help us out. [4:14:13, 4:14:15]: Right. No, Mr. Blanc, go ahead, please. [4:14:15, 4:14:21]: Uh yeah, let me make something clear and I agree with Mr. Mr. Gardiner and I would uh agree with Miss Barber. [4:14:22, 4:14:28]: And because as we talk, and that's why I was gonna ask Mr. Thomas to interject because [4:14:29, 4:14:34]: Councilwoman Barbie, you're exactly right. The problem I had was the increase. [4:14:35, 4:14:50]: to to there was the increase that was asked for this vendor when there was no work for the vendor. And that was mine was not to deny this vendor or to rebid it, it was that we did not need to add money to a vendor. [4:14:50, 4:15:01]: That was contracted for on call when we haven't used any money at at the time. Well, that shouldn't have came that that shouldn't have come to us. I'm okay right now. [4:15:01, 4:15:05]: With uh with on site being renewed. [4:15:05, 4:15:10]: It's at the time that it came for us, why are we gonna add money to something to [4:15:10, 4:15:19]: Take our budget up higher on it to for for spec speculative things that could happen when we didn't need to do it. It made no sense to me. [4:15:20, 4:15:26]: So right now what's before us is is our own call I'm saying on site being our own call. [4:15:27, 4:15:35]: A vendor, which I had no problem with that. I had a problem adding money to something that we're not using, the money that was already existing. So [4:15:35, 4:15:39]: With that being said, I would like the motion to approve the renewal of on call. [4:15:41, 4:15:42]: Right, done. [4:15:42, 4:15:45]: Are you second at Mayor Putem or [4:15:45, 4:15:52]: I raised my hand before, but okay. What what's your what's your thoughts? Go ahead, sir. Well, I I want to ask Mr. Aaron, because I do recall. [4:15:52, 4:16:04]: uh when we had those capabilities here at the city and i know we have seasoned guys there so mr ervan speak speak to that and and i think we sort of just gotten away from [4:16:04, 4:16:05]: Um [4:16:05, 4:16:11]: outsourcing, outbidding, and and I'm just wondering when are we going to look at [4:16:11, 4:16:12]: Um [4:16:13, 4:16:16]: the capability of of just doing some of these things ourselves. [4:16:18, 4:16:21]: You have a season. [4:16:21, 4:16:22]: Staff there. [4:16:23, 4:16:43]: Mayor Pro Tem Thomas, you're right. There are some things I got a staff right now that are doing some in-house things, but these are for some things that are beyond us as far as equipment-wise and some of the resources. Like right now, we got four projects pending$66,540. That would be the cost. We got two projects, six fifth. [4:16:43, 4:17:03]: one pathwood lane somebody called on Thursday and 186 Creek View Overlook that the engineers are looking at. We have experience we can do some project but some things you don't have the equipment and resources like that Hudson Bridge Drive we did last year. That was$125,000 that road had to be [4:17:03, 4:17:19]: be rebuilt. You don't have staff on board that have the expertise to rebuild the road. They're used to do things that are beyond our scope and capabilities and they don't have to go through the procurement process to obtain supplies and materials that we would have to go through. [4:17:20, 4:17:40]: And so that's why they are you something just like the ALME. It it wouldn't make sense for us to get into the business of resurfacing roads because it's not cost effective. But this, you spending$200,000 a year, you have that service, they come in and do some things that are that are beyond the scope of your paying. [4:17:40, 4:17:44]: for knowledge and subject matter expert. [4:17:44, 4:17:47]: And instead of hiring it, you're renting it. [4:17:47, 4:17:57]: And it's a lot cheaper than because that service does not come with you got to provide health benefits, you got to provide vacation, but they're just providing a service and they're moving on. [4:17:57, 4:18:11]: But staff is doing things that are within our scope of work because to go through the process we have to go through to do projects sometimes. It can be time consuming, but that vendor can come in and he can do it because he don't have to go through the hoops. [4:18:11, 4:18:15]: to buy materials and get equipment and all those things on site. [4:18:16, 4:18:21]: Well, in closing, Mayor, I I I'll just say this for public works and I think we're gonna have to get to this point. [4:18:22, 4:18:23]: Um [4:18:23, 4:18:33]: Bring your staff on, training. They they're already on board for the insurance and and and all of that. But I I just think we have to be about some training. [4:18:33, 4:18:36]: Well, I think we have to look at what we can do. [4:18:37, 4:18:43]: uh in house because you know I I in just my opinion, we're outsourcing way too much, in my opinion. [4:18:44, 4:18:50]: Uh but I yield back, Mayor. All right. And motion's been made by Mr. Blount. Is there a second to the motion? [4:18:53, 4:18:54]: Is there a second to the motion? [4:18:55, 4:18:59]: I second. Ms. Stan second the motion. Further discussion. Ms. Barber, you had your hand up? [4:19:01, 4:19:05]: Yes, Mr. Wiggins, what is the contract award amount for this? [4:19:07, 4:19:10]: I didn't see a copy of the contract included. [4:19:12, 4:19:15]: If the contract award amount is a hundred and [4:19:16, 4:19:19]: Fifty nine thousand, I'm not sure on the um [4:19:20, 4:19:22]: Okay, and the budget [4:19:23, 4:19:26]: The FY twenty twenty two budget for [4:19:26, 4:19:30]: Budget amount budget amount is two hundred and fifty five thousand. [4:19:31, 4:19:33]: Okay, so Mr. Aaron. [4:19:35, 4:19:35]: Um [4:19:38, 4:19:40]: You're just asking counsel to renew. [4:19:42, 4:19:43]: This contract. [4:19:45, 4:19:45]: Correct. [4:19:46, 4:20:01]: And for the budget amount, cause the first quarter, we've already, we're gonna when these projects that we have identified, they're$66,540. That's through the end of March. And we got two other projects they haven't given us the price on. [4:20:01, 4:20:02]: So [4:20:02, 4:20:07]: We're gonna exceed that hundred and fifty nine because I've been watching the trend. [4:20:07, 4:20:12]: Of our stormwater street. Then hold on just a second. Mr. Gardner. [4:20:12, 4:20:15]: 'Cause I don't mean that the city attorneys [4:20:15, 4:20:21]: or the treasurer or Mr. Gardner signed off on this agenda item review form. [4:20:21, 4:20:24]: So if he has task orders. [4:20:24, 4:20:26]: that are in hand. [4:20:27, 4:20:30]: That exceeds the city manager's authority. [4:20:30, 4:20:31]: Then those should be separate. [4:20:32, 4:20:33]: Items on the agenda. [4:20:34, 4:20:36]: One of the items should be [4:20:36, 4:20:39]: Um staff's recommendation to approve. [4:20:39, 4:20:41]: renewing this contract. [4:20:42, 4:20:45]: in the amount of a hundred and fifty nine thousand. [4:20:46, 4:20:49]: If you have any specific task orders. [4:20:49, 4:20:52]: That exceed twenty five thousand dollars. [4:20:52, 4:20:54]: Then you need to bring those to us. [4:20:55, 4:20:57]: Because I will not approve. [4:20:57, 4:20:59]: Well, I'm not gonna prove it anyway. [4:20:59, 4:21:02]: But you're asking to increase the award amount. [4:21:03, 4:21:04]: No. [4:21:05, 4:21:08]: The award amount is what it is. [4:21:08, 4:21:10]: If there are any it's um [4:21:11, 4:21:14]: Task orders that exceeds the award amount. [4:21:14, 4:21:17]: That is what you need to bring back to the council. [4:21:17, 4:21:19]: But I do not bel [4:21:19, 4:21:22]: These are conversations that need to be had. [4:21:22, 4:21:23]: Between staff. [4:21:24, 4:21:27]: the city manager and the department head. [4:21:27, 4:21:29]: By the time it comes to the council. [4:21:30, 4:21:30]: We [4:21:32, 4:21:35]: We were I'm not interested in hearing about. [4:21:35, 4:21:37]: You need a purchase order. [4:21:38, 4:21:41]: That's not what the governing body is tasked to do. [4:21:42, 4:21:44]: So I don't know why you keep insisting. [4:21:45, 4:21:47]: that we increase our warning out. [4:21:47, 4:21:48]: It's been awarded. [4:21:50, 4:21:50]: Wait. [4:21:50, 4:21:52]: It's no need in doing that. [4:21:52, 4:21:53]: So [4:21:53, 4:21:57]: Mr. Gardner, please. Um Yes ma'am, for for for clarity. [4:21:57, 4:21:58]: For clarity. [4:21:59, 4:22:01]: Staff wants you to approve. [4:22:02, 4:22:04]: The one year renewal. [4:22:04, 4:22:08]: For five hundred and fifty nine thousand three hundred and ninety dollars. [4:22:08, 4:22:13]: Yes, it is budgeted for over that amount, but it if and when they exceed that amount. [4:22:13, 4:22:17]: That's when we will come to you and ask your permission to exercise to go above that number. [4:22:18, 4:22:26]: But contract should be approved at the contract amount, which is one hundred and fifty-nine thousand three hundred and ninety. No more, no less. [4:22:26, 4:22:31]: If and when we come close to exceeding that, we'll come back to you guys, even though we know [4:22:31, 4:22:41]: Because what the question I asked was, did we exceed what was budgeted last year? And the answer to that was yes. So okay. So we increased the budget from what it was under the fiscal year twenty-one. [4:22:41, 4:22:43]: to fiscal year twenty two. [4:22:43, 4:22:48]: But the contract is below that. If and when they do the work and exceed that and there's more work for them to do. [4:22:48, 4:22:50]: That's that's that's genuine. [4:22:51, 4:23:05]: Then yes, we will come forth and say, Man council, we need to increase based on this number of work, the scope of work they've done, give you a list of all they have done so far, the work they've done that would add up to go beyond that amount. So [4:23:05, 4:23:11]: Our request is for approval at the hundred and fifty nine thousand three hundred and ninety dollars, no more no less. [4:23:12, 4:23:16]: Okay, so the way this item is written on the agenda. [4:23:17, 4:23:22]: It appears as though he's asking counsel to increase. [4:23:22, 4:23:23]: They weren't now. [4:23:23, 4:23:24]: He meant that [4:23:24, 4:23:44]: The FR 2022 budget amount, but he does not reference the contract amount. So I just want the record to be clean about what the motion is. That's all. Yes, ma'am. [4:23:44, 4:23:46]: Amount versus just amount. [4:23:46, 4:24:02]: is yes and then the under the background information you will see in the second paragraph um that the contract was approved for that 159 390 and that's the number that we're going under for the renewal for this year and like i said if dashes does come up with more work [4:24:02, 4:24:04]: Or the complexity of the work is [4:24:04, 4:24:06]: increases beyond that point. [4:24:06, 4:24:10]: That's when we will come for the authority to go above and beyond that. No, no, no time before. [4:24:11, 4:24:13]: Um don't try them off the day under. [4:24:14, 4:24:17]: I still want um a member of council to make a motion. [4:24:17, 4:24:21]: And refer to the item as it's [4:24:21, 4:24:25]: um written or printed on the agenda. [4:24:27, 4:24:30]: So yes, we the motion needs to be clear, that's all. [4:24:30, 4:24:37]: Yes, ma'am. And and that's something we need to do. We can make that change in there that says what is budgeted for and the actual request should be with the contract amount. [4:24:39, 4:24:49]: Mr. Zen, go ahead, please. Let me say it's almost 1030. Some of these questions need to be asked before the meeting. These meetings are excessively long. [4:24:49, 4:24:50]: For no reason. [4:24:51, 4:24:54]: Some of these questions need to be asked beforehand. [4:24:54, 4:25:01]: These meetings get longer and longer and longer because we exacerbate things that could be handled before the meeting. [4:25:02, 4:25:10]: I'm patient enough to sit here, but I'm tired of wasting my time. Over and over again, we have the same question being asked repeatedly. [4:25:11, 4:25:31]: Okay, now I don't mind listening to the conversation to educate myself, but I'm not going to reread the whole manual. We gotta move forward. I'm listening, I'm looking at people, I'm looking at Mr. Berry's uh Mr. the Chief's daughter come in and hug him. I'm looking at Mr. Berry's son in the back window, uh out of [4:25:30, 4:25:38]: The door trying to get their attention. We're affecting people's time and what they do with their families as we go along with this. [4:25:39, 4:25:49]: We gotta move better than this and more concisely than this. Make a decision and vote. No matter how you're gonna vote, you don't need to tell me how you're gonna vote. Just vote. [4:25:50, 4:25:52]: I hear you. I'll vote. Just vote. [4:25:53, 4:25:58]: But there's no reason that this meeting should still be going on at near ten thirty at night. [4:26:01, 4:26:04]: All right. So any other questions in reference to this uh [4:26:05, 4:26:05]: Proposal here. [4:26:06, 4:26:09]: No, I have no more questions, but I do have a comment. [4:26:10, 4:26:10]: What's that? [4:26:11, 4:26:11]: Um [4:26:12, 4:26:13]: As I mentioned before. [4:26:14, 4:26:18]: The way these items are added to the agenda and presented. [4:26:18, 4:26:22]: affects the discussions and decisions by the governing body. [4:26:23, 4:26:27]: So if staff can get it right on the front end. [4:26:27, 4:26:29]: We wouldn't have to ask all these questions. [4:26:30, 4:26:31]: here in the public meeting. [4:26:31, 4:26:34]: So I'm looking for Mr. Gardner. [4:26:34, 4:26:37]: To take a look at our overall operation so we can stop. [4:26:37, 4:26:39]: These long meetings. [4:26:40, 4:26:42]: I won't be asking any more questions. [4:26:42, 4:26:47]: prior to a meeting via email or phone calls because all of my questions. [4:26:48, 4:26:49]: are either ignored [4:26:50, 4:26:51]: Or I'm deceived. [4:26:51, 4:26:52]: I ask you right here. [4:26:53, 4:26:57]: So the public can hear me at ask the questions. [4:26:57, 4:26:58]: That's all. [4:26:59, 4:27:10]: Uh Mr. Uh Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead please. Well I just I just want to say this and uh Mr. Alexander uh I I I I agree with you, but sometimes we need to take our own advice because [4:27:10, 4:27:24]: That's the exact way I felt with the first item uh when you sort of just held you know the meeting up. So I'm just saying let's let's be let's be conscious of what we do as well. [4:27:24, 4:27:40]: um when it's in our favor and when it's not in our favor we want to criticize that so i think all of us can take a lesson and just govern ourselves to be short with whatever we're doing so i i just i can't appreciate anyone want to criticize [4:27:40, 4:27:45]: for someone else for asking a lot of question when they themselves [4:27:45, 4:27:56]: haul you know the early part of the meeting and i i just wanted to say that because i think we all have to learn lessons here and i think that's why sometimes when we have meetings that should be a lesson that that that's learned so [4:27:57, 4:28:06]: Let's let's listen to ourselves sometime. And I think we should be about just being direct and shortening these meetings so we can go. And we're talking about meeting in person. [4:28:06, 4:28:16]: All of these folks on this meeting as the attorneys, everyone would never be leaving trying to go home at 1030. So I'm just saying, let's take our own advice sometime. [4:28:17, 4:28:23]: I I yield back, Mayor. Okay. So on that note, there's no other conversation. I need a motion to accept this uh [4:28:24, 4:28:26]: A proposal for this con extension of this contract. [4:28:27, 4:28:28]: Sir emotion. [4:28:29, 4:28:39]: Mayor, I have it recorded as a motion from Councilman Blount. You got a motion of a second. Okay. Who second who second the motion then? I didn't. Okay, so all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [4:28:42, 4:28:45]: I'll pose. I got two four. I'll pose. [4:28:46, 4:28:47]: Of stain. [4:28:49, 4:28:53]: Okay, got okay. So what I have here is I got two zero one. [4:28:53, 4:28:56]: Uh I'm [4:28:56, 4:29:16]: You abstain as well. I'm sorry, my internet went out. I missed it. I missed my internet stall. So I did not get it. We just voted. Sorry. We just voted. Um Mayor Ford, I wanted to add a codicy. That's what you all told me. Um we just voted. I like to [4:29:16, 4:29:25]: So stand by stand by a second. All right, now listen. Okay, Mr. Blount, you made a motion. It was seconded by Ms. Gantt. All right. [4:29:25, 4:29:28]: Let's try this one more time. All in favor, the motion please indicate. [4:29:28, 4:29:29]: We just voted. [4:29:29, 4:29:30]: Stand by. [4:29:31, 4:29:32]: They're all polls. [4:29:33, 4:29:34]: Abstain. [4:29:36, 4:29:37]: Okay, so [4:29:38, 4:29:41]: Mr. Alexander, what's your vote here? I'm opposed. [4:29:43, 4:29:50]: Okay, so it's and and so Barber and Thomas abstain. So it's two, one, two. So obviously the motion doesn't pass. [4:29:50, 4:29:53]: Mayor Ford, I like to add a comment from I stand stand by one second. [4:29:54, 4:29:56]: It's holiday, you have that right there? [4:29:57, 4:30:03]: I do. I have it recorded two one two with Alexander opposing Thomas and Barber abstaining. [4:30:03, 4:30:05]: Okay, got it. Now, what's your comment, Miss Barber? [4:30:06, 4:30:08]: Um my comment was [4:30:08, 4:30:10]: I was expecting that. [4:30:10, 4:30:11]: Further information [4:30:11, 4:30:12]: Um [4:30:12, 4:30:13]: would have been brought. [4:30:14, 4:30:16]: back to the council from staff. [4:30:16, 4:30:19]: prior to today's meeting. [4:30:19, 4:30:23]: one day prior to this expiration date of this contract. [4:30:25, 4:30:27]: All right. Thank you. Ms. Gantt, go ahead, please. [4:30:28, 4:30:30]: Mayor, you said it did not pass. [4:30:31, 4:30:34]: No, didn't we have three council members to vote? That's a quorum. [4:30:35, 4:30:38]: But but but the passive measure is you have to have three in affirmative. [4:30:40, 4:30:40]: Correct? [4:30:41, 4:30:42]: The attorneys are online. [4:30:43, 4:30:49]: I don't know about three and affirmative for that. That was some that was something we that was a particular issue. [4:30:51, 4:30:55]: We we had a we have a quorum of three people that voted. [4:30:55, 4:30:57]: It was too abstained. [4:30:57, 4:31:00]: W we have three people who actually voted. [4:31:00, 4:31:01]: Correct. [4:31:01, 4:31:04]: It takes a three to it takes three to pass. Well it was two, one, two. [4:31:05, 4:31:06]: Thanks three to pass. [4:31:08, 4:31:09]: Repass. [4:31:10, 4:31:14]: Three to not only two I was trying to say it no and then you had two abstentions. [4:31:15, 4:31:15]: Okay. [4:31:16, 4:31:18]: So at this point we don't have a long call. [4:31:19, 4:31:20]: Uh or not um [4:31:22, 4:31:38]: That's for wait minute. That was I thought when it said it takes two to pass three to pass, that was for what a particular item that we were looking into at the time. Ms. Gantt, the motion failed. We didn't have three in affirmative. The most my understanding is the motion failed. We have two attorneys online. [4:31:38, 4:31:43]: They have to plead announce the fact that you need three, an affirmative to pass it. The motion failed. [4:31:43, 4:31:44]: So we're gonna move on. [4:31:44, 4:31:46]: Ma'am, that's not what I'm saying. [4:31:47, 4:31:59]: The what they're saying is we need three affirmative, but that was for a particular issue. That was for an I don't know if it was an appointment, it was something, but it was specific in the charter. [4:31:59, 4:32:05]: That's not our normal. You can't get a majority you can't get a majority, the majority of five. [4:32:06, 4:32:08]: Would still be greater than fifty percent. [4:32:09, 4:32:10]: Which would be three. [4:32:12, 4:32:12]: Okay. [4:32:13, 4:32:17]: And if it's three people and one of them opposed and two of them [4:32:17, 4:32:21]: Um approved in the majority, the two that approved. [4:32:21, 4:32:22]: No. [4:32:24, 4:32:24]: Are you sure? [4:32:25, 4:32:26]: Yes. [4:32:26, 4:32:29]: The motion failed, ladies and gentlemen. It's time to move on. [4:32:30, 4:32:31]: Position to reconsider. [4:32:33, 4:32:39]: Yeah, well we've already voted, we've moved on. Isn't that what you're voted? But the record we could we could [4:32:39, 4:32:54]: Stand by stand stand by resending your stand by please on motion to reconsider. Hold on, stand by. On that note though, he was in the descending, so I don't think can that be done? Well, but he was on the side that one, he was on the side of one though. [4:32:55, 4:32:58]: He he said he said he said no to the motion. [4:32:58, 4:33:00]: He opposed. [4:33:01, 4:33:15]: The oppos the opposition to the motion because the motion didn't pass, I think, and uh Jeremy, if you want to talk about offline, I think that his opposition with the extensions not being able to be counted and the motion did not pass, I think he can move to reconsider it. [4:33:17, 4:33:22]: Mr. Berry, you want to chime in on that? So stand by, please. [4:33:23, 4:33:25]: Right. Everything that's occurred [4:33:26, 4:33:32]: Right now has happened and then uh council member Alexander was in the minority because it voted down so he can bring a motion. [4:33:34, 4:33:35]: Motion to reconsider. [4:33:36, 4:33:37]: All right. [4:33:37, 4:33:39]: So the motion that has to be second, is that correct? [4:33:40, 4:33:40]: Second. [4:33:41, 4:33:42]: Mr. Blount seconded that motion. [4:33:43, 4:33:47]: All right. So the motion reconsider. I need uh I need a vote on that. [4:33:47, 4:33:48]: Motion to reconsider. [4:33:49, 4:33:50]: Yeah or no. [4:33:50, 4:33:58]: Three A's. Is there are uh two uh what what's your what's your uh no okay miss but Miss Barber? [4:33:58, 4:34:05]: Okay, so it's three one one. All right. So the motion has been reconsidered. So that means we have to redo the motion again. Is that correct? [4:34:07, 4:34:12]: Yes. Okay. So I need a motion to accept this uh the proposal that was brought forward. [4:34:13, 4:34:14]: So move. [4:34:15, 4:34:20]: So moved. Okay, second by Mr. Plant. Mr. Hazard made a motion. All favorite motion, please indicate. [4:34:21, 4:34:23]: Okay, three affirmative. [4:34:23, 4:34:25]: Okay, m Mr. Thomas. [4:34:25, 4:34:28]: Upsain, Miss Barber. [4:34:28, 4:34:37]: I'm staying and I wanna add the comment. I was Okay, stand by, stand by. I have it three oh two. Three zero two. Okay. What's your comment now? [4:34:38, 4:34:40]: I was expecting that. [4:34:40, 4:34:46]: Further review by staff would have come back to the council prior to today's meeting. [4:34:46, 4:34:47]: Um [4:34:47, 4:35:07]: since this contract expires tomorrow, but it did not. So I'm abstaining. Thank you. All right. So be it. We'll move on. The next uh next comment we had, next item deals with the uh the added item to to the agenda, dealt with the resolution uh to reconsider and uh reconsider an emergency order to repeal the emergency order that was uh that we have several [4:35:07, 4:35:23]: months or so ago and uh like for the attorneys uh mr washington if you can lead this discussion and if you're able to share the resolution uh that you drafted up just in case make sure everybody sees that if you could share the screen and put pull that up please and talk about this [4:35:24, 4:35:27]: Yes. Um part of the instructions that [4:35:28, 4:35:29]: We received [4:35:30, 4:35:36]: about wanting to reopen. We had passed a we had passed a motion saying that we were not going to [4:35:37, 4:35:40]: We had we had passed a motion saying that we needed to [4:35:41, 4:35:55]: close down the city and what the hot what the terms were going to be. And so we drafted a motion to be able to reopen the city. And we spoke with we spoke with Henry County, because that was a part of our resolution. [4:35:55, 4:35:56]: May actually [4:35:57, 4:36:01]: Never and I'm I'm trying to pull it up now. They actually never [4:36:03, 4:36:05]: Henry County actually never [4:36:05, 4:36:13]: passed or uh passed a resolution on this. And so, but we needed to because we passed the resolution one way and we need to do a resolution the other way because we [4:36:14, 4:36:20]: said that we would inform the citizens be in that way. And I'm pulling up the resolution now. So there's [4:36:38, 4:36:39]: All right. [4:36:50, 4:36:50]: [16625.6, 16626.2]: Wait a minute. [4:37:10, 4:37:11]: Um yes mom. [4:37:50, 4:37:51]: Okay. [4:37:55, 4:37:56]: Ms. Washington? [4:38:00, 4:38:04]: Here I'm looking for the resolution that I sent to you all today. [4:38:05, 4:38:05]: And [4:38:07, 4:38:08]: That's what I'm looking for. [4:38:10, 4:38:11]: All right. [4:38:12, 4:38:14]: Computer's been a little bit slow, so my apologies. [4:38:24, 4:38:26]: Can we vote to approve the resolution there? [4:38:27, 4:38:36]: Yeah, we can. I thought you would want to see it or have him discuss it. Well, I just for for the sake of time, I I we can just vote to approve the resolution. [4:38:36, 4:38:39]: Uh to have in person meetings. [4:38:39, 4:38:52]: And uh that's that's what okay, okay, okay. I'll tell you what. I uh stand by. All right, uh Mr. Washington, uh go ahead and describe what's in the motion. You got the lead on this, sir. Go ahead, please. Yeah, no, it just it just repealed the it just repealed the [4:38:53, 4:38:55]: August motion that we did. [4:38:55, 4:38:59]: And I thus Henry County did one in August of 2021. [4:38:59, 4:39:03]: And read off of that mo off of that. [4:39:03, 4:39:04]: motion we [4:39:06, 4:39:07]: Piggyback off of that. [4:39:07, 4:39:27]: And we said that we noticed that the COVID rates were down and the cases being admitted to Pete Mount Henry were lowering now. And so we're removing our state of emergency and then empowered the city manager to have a transition plan to work with the state and federal agencies to be able to coordinate the public health responses need. [4:39:27, 4:39:28]: Needed. [4:39:28, 4:39:29]: Where? [4:39:29, 4:39:30]: Yes, sir. [4:39:30, 4:39:45]: I would like to make a motion to approve the resolution as outlined by the city attorney to reopen the city for in-person meetings, repealing the previous order that the city issued. [4:39:46, 4:39:48]: All right, so Mr. Blount second that. [4:39:48, 4:40:08]: Any further discussion? If not, all favor please indicate Mr. Mr. Mr. Thomas, you have some discussion. Stand by, stand by. I'm sorry, Mr. Thomas, you have some discussion. Um I I I didn't hear uh a timeline, which I'm okay with uh reopening it. The only issue I have is is when and the timeline, because I think there are some things that we [4:40:08, 4:40:09]: [16810.0, 16812.4]: Um curriculum. [4:40:13, 4:40:30]: Well, honestly, I I I think we uh at this point we're just gonna have to disagree. I just think we need to go ahead and get open at the next meeting because this is just where we are right now. The staff needs to do what's necessary to get us back to opening. [4:40:31, 4:40:35]: Oh this is this was the resolution here. My positive, this is the resolution here. [4:40:35, 4:40:38]: The resolution repeal in the local emergency. [4:40:39, 4:40:40]: Is there a timeline? [4:40:41, 4:40:49]: Yeah, my motion immediately amended my motion to uh to add the timeline of the um April work session. [4:40:50, 4:41:10]: Okay. Is there a second to his additional? Okay, Mr. Blount. Okay. And it's uh that's the 26th of April, is what are you referring to? Okay. Motion's been made, been amended, and made again. So all in favor of motion, please indicate. And I got one, two, I can't stay everything. Um [4:41:10, 4:41:17]: Miss Bar Miss Barber, you what's your vote? Three. Miss uh Okay, you stay uh Mr Ms. Gantt. [4:41:18, 4:41:19]: Mr. [4:41:20, 4:41:23]: Yes, I I'm I um I accept. [4:41:23, 4:41:36]: Okay, so that's four zero one is what the motion is. Mr. Meripo Temper stains on that. All right, thank you, gentlemen, ladies, council, and motion passed. So we'll be having open meetings effectively, a work session. [4:41:36, 4:41:39]: On the twenty sixth of this month, we'll move forward on that. [4:41:39, 4:41:41]: Um if I can uh [4:41:41, 4:41:45]: Mayor well, you know what? Never mind. Sorry. [4:41:46, 4:41:46]: All right. [4:41:48, 4:41:49]: What what's uh what's happening here? [4:41:52, 4:41:58]: Mr. Washington, your screen is shown. Your screen is being shown, sir. Is this what you okay? Yeah, I'm I'm sending it to you all. [4:41:59, 4:42:00]: I'm sending you this exact motion now. [4:42:02, 4:42:04]: But I can stop sharing my screen with us. [4:42:07, 4:42:24]: All right. On that note, uh my comments are simply this. We we've opened back up for our meetings, but we still do have the pandemic is still there, but the numbers are down, the hospitalizations are down, people that are dying from this are down. And we opened up the the city hall a couple of weeks or so ago with masks being optional. [4:42:25, 4:42:27]: Uh so in this aspect. But anyway, for people are interested. [4:42:28, 4:42:34]: COVID testing is still available Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. at Red Hawk Field in Madonna. [4:42:34, 4:42:45]: And uh I have to admit I did that today with my spouse and it's a very quick process to get that done. And this uh CPR uh the uh PCR test is what what they do there. [4:42:45, 4:42:59]: And you can always go to Department of Health on Henry Henry Parkway, 9 a.m. to 130. Excuse me, 9 a.m. to 1130 for a walk-in basis for vaccinations. That would be Moderma and Pfizer. [4:42:59, 4:43:12]: And that um that is Monday through Friday, also from one uh one p.m. to two thirty p.m. And you can call for an appointment at 470-661-0005. All right, on that aspect. So [4:43:13, 4:43:22]: Uh that can you can do that and get tested and vaccinated right here in the in uh free of charge. Absolutely. So I want to talk about um [4:43:23, 4:43:31]: Some additional announcements for item for uh city events here. And so we're gonna go to uh in-person meetings. Let's say youth council meeting. [4:43:32, 4:43:37]: five thirty on a second Wednesday of each month, the Levi Meeting Room and City Hall on April thirteenth. [4:43:37, 4:43:49]: Main Street Advisory Board meeting the second Friday of each month at 9 a.m. by way of Zoom. Uh says the revised April meeting will be okay, it's been April meeting the 15th has been canceled. [4:43:49, 4:43:52]: Okay. Uh Main Street. [4:43:52, 4:43:53]: Um [4:43:54, 4:43:58]: Report Tim, uh I can you straighten me out on the main street visible says here, uh [4:44:00, 4:44:05]: says the meeting's been revised uh upon the fifteenth. That's been council, I guess. That that's cor that's that correct. [4:44:06, 4:44:16]: Uh I I believe so. Um I don't have the accurate and up-to-date information. I can help you with that, Mayor. They had rescheduled the meeting for the reschedule. [4:44:17, 4:44:22]: But City Hall will be closed. So that's why the meeting's been canceled. They're meeting in May. [4:44:22, 4:44:23]: Okay. All right. Thank you. [4:44:23, 4:44:27]: Downtown you know I'm sorry, what date you know the date in May, by the way? [4:44:29, 4:44:32]: Um second Friday of the month at nine AM. [4:44:33, 4:44:34]: I'm sorry. [4:44:34, 4:44:53]: They meet the second Friday of the month at 9 a.m. Okay, there we go. Thank you very much. Downtown Development Authority uh meeting is uh 6 p.m. by way of Zoom, second Tuesday of each month, which is going to be the uh 19th of April. New council advisory committee meeting 6:30, uh third Tuesday of each uh month in the Patrick Henry meeting room. [4:44:53, 4:45:01]: At City Hall on April nineteenth. The city council works uh session meeting last Tuesday of each month. You'll need to unlock your iPhone first. Excuse me. [4:45:04, 4:45:18]: Anyway, the um council work session uh meeting last Tuesday of each month, and it's going to be on April 26th, and that'll be in person at City Hall. Planning Commission meeting for Thursday at 6:30 p.m. by way of Zoom on April 28th. [4:45:18, 4:45:38]: uh city council meeting second monday of each month and that'd be May 9th and I'll also be in person. Upcoming city events uh we've got to continue salute to veterans please for your veterans' um uh names branch rank and years of service as uh mayor protem thomas continues uh to present and a special tribute to those local [4:45:38, 4:45:46]: Veterans. Pictures should be submitted to uh Z Pearson at city of Stockbridge-G A.gov. [4:45:47, 4:46:07]: And there's a job fair that's coming up with the city along with the Goodwill Thursday, April 21st. And also you have Delta Sigma Theta Sawardees involved in that cooperative uh job fair with the city and the goodwill. Employers will be on site to to resume assistance and immediate hiring. So it's uh so you have that. [4:46:07, 4:46:16]: opportunity to look for to get a job potentially and to be at the uh amphitheater and on April 21st, 9 a.m. to 1 p.m. [4:46:17, 4:46:24]: And it's an opportunity to meet the mayor in person, uh, bring the questions, concerns. That's Monday, April 25th. [4:46:24, 4:46:34]: And that says 9 a.m. to noon. And he calls the novia Pearson and schedule appointment, 770-389-7900, extension 248. [4:46:34, 4:46:38]: And Councilwoman Barber has the Easter family fun. [4:46:38, 4:46:50]: Which is Saturday, April 16th at Stockbridge First United Methodist Church, 4 p.m. to 6 p.m. And also on Sunday on the 17th, which is Easter Sunday, immediately following the Easter Easter service. [4:46:50, 4:47:10]: 10 30 to 12 p.m. free to everyone, free ice cream, free face painting. Come and have some fun and enjoy the Easter egg uh Easter type of events. On that note, I actually do know uh yeah, yes, Mr. Mr. Thomas. I just wanted to uh just state that the uh Main Street Advisory Board would be [4:47:10, 4:47:12]: uh May thirteenth. [4:47:12, 4:47:31]: May 13th. 9 a.m. May 13th. Okay, thank you, sir. Appreciate that. I I do know of of uh a Zekla session item that deals with Mr. Peterson and real estate issue. That's the only thing I know of. And I know it's getting late, but but uh if you want to get into Zeke session and just have this discussion, uh we'll do so if you approve it. Mr. Gardner, please. [4:47:33, 4:47:34]: You're you muted, Mr. Gardner. [4:47:36, 4:47:42]: Uh, I think Mr. Peterson wanted to have that um postponed and rescheduled for the twenty sixth. [4:47:42, 4:47:48]: Okay, fantastic. On that note, if there are no zego session issues or discussion, then I need a motion to adjourn the meeting. [4:47:49, 4:47:50]: Oh move. Is there a second? [4:47:52, 4:47:56]: Mr. Mayor Proten seconds that motion. All favor, please indicate. Aye. [4:47:56, 4:48:02]: Okay, it's an answer's decision. Okay, good night. Good night. Talk to you later.

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[0:02:53, 0:02:56]: And Mailford, if I may take liberty to [0:02:56, 0:03:00]: Uh to mention of course you and I and [0:03:00, 0:03:05]: Councilman Alexander were t together today at a conference as well, other staff. [0:03:06, 0:03:14]: And and I'm I'm speaking of this because as we draw near the end of this first quarter. [0:03:14, 0:03:16]: Uh I reflect on [0:03:17, 0:03:23]: where we are this year and how we're going forward. And I say all that to say is that [0:03:23, 0:03:27]: Um there are a number of opportunities. [0:03:28, 0:03:30]: For our great city and our citizens. [0:03:31, 0:03:34]: Uh, but we have to be in prayer. [0:03:34, 0:03:38]: Uh we have to be thankful for the little things, but we must [0:03:38, 0:03:40]: Constantly be in prayer. [0:03:41, 0:03:59]: and and and thinking for the small things in order to to get the big things. So I'm asking all of us here this evening to pray for all of us, pray for this great city and all of the citizens that are out there. We ask you to, if you would, to bow your heads. [0:04:00, 0:04:04]: And offer a prayer for our great city of Stockbridge. [0:04:05, 0:04:06]: Uh let us pray. [0:04:08, 0:04:09]: Father [0:04:10, 0:04:13]: Let this year be filled with wellness. [0:04:13, 0:04:15]: Peace, prosperity, and love. [0:04:17, 0:04:22]: Let us always give thanks for all of the things that we hold dear. [0:04:23, 0:04:24]: Our health. [0:04:25, 0:04:26]: Our family [0:04:26, 0:04:28]: Our citizens. [0:04:28, 0:04:30]: And our friends. [0:04:31, 0:04:33]: We ask for your guidance. [0:04:34, 0:04:36]: In your light to shine our path forward. [0:04:38, 0:04:41]: Let us lead this city from darkness to light. [0:04:42, 0:04:44]: From falsehood to truth. [0:04:45, 0:04:47]: And from wrong to right. [0:04:47, 0:04:50]: Let us remember that we're all one city. [0:04:51, 0:04:53]: Embracing all [0:04:53, 0:04:55]: and discriminating against none. [0:04:57, 0:05:02]: Father, give this counsel wisdom, strength, and courage. [0:05:03, 0:05:06]: That we may move the city of Stockbridge forward. [0:05:07, 0:05:08]: to his true destiny. [0:05:09, 0:05:12]: Of a bright and vibrant city. [0:05:14, 0:05:18]: We pray for an end to the plague that's upon this earth, Father. [0:05:20, 0:05:23]: May all those who have had heavy burdens have [0:05:23, 0:05:26]: Let their low be lightened with new hope. [0:05:27, 0:05:34]: Father, we ask that you restore happiness to those in disrespare in despair. [0:05:34, 0:05:37]: Bring love to the lonely [0:05:37, 0:05:39]: And food to the hungry. [0:05:40, 0:05:41]: Make well the sick. [0:05:42, 0:05:44]: And heal the broken hearts. [0:05:45, 0:05:48]: Father, we cannot thank you enough for [0:05:48, 0:05:50]: For all that you do. [0:05:51, 0:05:53]: But Father, let us all say [0:05:53, 0:05:54]: Thank you. [0:05:55, 0:05:56]: And amen. [0:05:56, 0:05:57]: Amen. [0:05:58, 0:06:00]: Please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. [0:06:03, 0:06:07]: I pledge allegiance to the flag. But we know the state still. [0:06:08, 0:06:16]: Two Republic, but which state, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:06:19, 0:06:21]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:06:24, 0:06:26]: Mayor Ford? Present. [0:06:27, 0:06:28]: Yeah, Pro Tem Thomas. [0:06:28, 0:06:29]: President. [0:06:29, 0:06:30]: Councilman Alexander. [0:06:31, 0:06:31]: Was it? [0:06:31, 0:06:32]: Councilwoman Barber. [0:06:33, 0:06:33]: Is it? [0:06:34, 0:06:35]: Councilman Blount. [0:06:35, 0:06:36]: Present. [0:06:36, 0:06:37]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:06:38, 0:06:39]: Present. [0:06:40, 0:06:44]: Airport, you have a quorum. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Uh Council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:06:48, 0:06:52]: So move. Okay. Uh Miss Gantt, so moved. Is there a second? [0:06:52, 0:06:55]: Sorry. Yeah, Mr. Blount, second dad. All in favor, please indicate. [0:06:57, 0:07:17]: Thank you, Junamus decision. Thank you very much. What you have before you, Council, review the minutes of the draft minutes for the council meeting February 14th and also the draft minutes for the council work session on February 22nd. Review those and our next uh actual council meeting, we'll go ahead and approve them. So if there are any changes or amendments, please get them to the clerk. [0:07:17, 0:07:22]: So we can make those adjustments. On that note, Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments? Excuse me, go clean your roll. [0:07:25, 0:07:27]: We do, Mayor, we do have one public comment. [0:07:28, 0:07:28]: Go ready, please. [0:07:29, 0:07:32]: Sonny Randanzo, Bryant Street, Stockworth, Georgia. [0:07:34, 0:07:35]: I have viewed the agenda. [0:07:36, 0:07:45]: It appears that those noise mitigation issues has once and has once again been forgotten. I'm certainly not surprised at all. [0:07:45, 0:07:48]: Rather disappointed as usual. [0:07:48, 0:07:53]: That you have not addressed the problem now. The concert is in a few days. [0:07:53, 0:07:57]: And your taxpaying neighbors are still in the dark about when the speakers [0:07:57, 0:07:59]: Will start blessing us out. [0:08:00, 0:08:07]: If you weren't aware, the day before the Shaka Khan concert, we were suddenly treated to an all-day sound check. [0:08:14, 0:08:17]: I Markware and the band. I assume. [0:08:18, 0:08:22]: It was an hour, it was an eight hour long ordeal. [0:08:22, 0:08:27]: With zero notice, could you please at the very least discuss the sound checks? [0:08:28, 0:08:35]: When will they be addressed? How long will it last? We deserve to at least be informed. [0:08:35, 0:08:42]: We are all tired of the city's surprises. This noise issue must be addressed as soon as possible. [0:08:42, 0:08:44]: We are weary of excuses. [0:08:45, 0:08:47]: Please hire a sound expert. [0:08:48, 0:08:48]: Please. [0:08:49, 0:08:53]: Also, please host the food truck Tuesdays at the park. [0:08:53, 0:08:55]: With the same concern and [0:08:55, 0:08:57]: That the Halloween festival was held. [0:08:57, 0:09:00]: With concern for the residents who are your neighbors. [0:09:01, 0:09:04]: They had a good time and were not disturbed at all and [0:09:04, 0:09:08]: This should be the model for all city events. Thank you. [0:09:09, 0:09:29]: Mayor, there are no additional comments. Again, we'll we'll address, we'll be able to address those issues as the conference season goes on. We'll be able to do that. And Mr. Gardner will keep us on track on that aspect as well. On that note, um, number three, council consideration to approve the award RFP 2021-0010 for the Ted Strickland Community. [0:09:29, 0:09:39]: Center Renovation to McWright LLC in the amount of$407,000 for the Economic Development and Main Street offices and Welcome Center. [0:09:40, 0:09:45]: Funding source building improvements presented by Mr. Peterson and Kira Harris Braggs. [0:09:45, 0:09:46]: Please. [0:09:47, 0:09:50]: Good morning, uh council. [0:09:50, 0:09:54]: And staff and citizens. Um, Miss Kira and I would like to. [0:09:55, 0:09:59]: Um present this short PowerPoint presentation on the Ted Strickland. [0:09:59, 0:10:05]: our renovations and in that presentation all of the details are outlined. [0:10:05, 0:10:11]: Um Miss Kerry, can you can you share your screen please? Yes, I would do that. [0:10:21, 0:10:22]: Okay. [0:10:23, 0:10:24]: You can go ahead, Miss Kira. [0:10:25, 0:10:29]: Okay, are you all able to see the um PowerPoint? Yes, we are. We're able to see it. [0:10:30, 0:10:31]: Okay. [0:10:35, 0:10:35]: Oops. [0:10:40, 0:10:41]: Sorry about that. [0:10:42, 0:10:55]: Okay, um good afternoon, um mayor and council members. It's exciting to be discussing our proposed repurposing and remodeling of the Ted Strickland Community Center. [0:10:55, 0:11:00]: Um, what was envisioned as a downtown home for the main street. [0:11:00, 0:11:06]: Program, Economic Development, and Welcome Center in the Stock Bridge Renaissance Vision and Strategic Plan. [0:11:06, 0:11:09]: is very close to becoming a reality. [0:11:11, 0:11:19]: As you all know, the current floor plan for the Ted Strickland Community Center features an open space with restrooms, large storage area. [0:11:19, 0:11:20]: Smart kitchen. [0:11:21, 0:11:22]: And a mechanical closet. [0:11:24, 0:11:31]: The proposed building renovations will provide a maximum usage of the available space. [0:11:31, 0:11:35]: This includes the addition of a large lobby with reception desk. [0:11:36, 0:11:40]: Um a conference room with adaptable board meeting capabilities. [0:11:40, 0:11:42]: Форвел апоінтет офіс спаси. [0:11:43, 0:11:44]: A break room for staff. [0:11:45, 0:11:49]: А лажворя дел хаузи департаментсь копір і суплиз. [0:11:49, 0:12:02]: This space will also feature an oversized work counter and what we are calling an intern desk, which is basically an area where temporary staff such as summer interns and volunteers would comfortably be able to work. [0:12:03, 0:12:06]: In addition, there will be ample storage space and an added coat closet. [0:12:07, 0:12:10]: And this design was provided to us by our. [0:12:10, 0:12:11]: Ам архітекці. [0:12:12, 0:12:13]: Um TSW. [0:12:15, 0:12:19]: The proposed interior design will be intuitive and welcoming. [0:12:20, 0:12:21]: with an open airfield. [0:12:22, 0:12:26]: Дел encourage collaboration, innovation, and implementation. [0:12:28, 0:12:31]: Vibrancy and functionality are priorities. [0:12:31, 0:12:33]: For the proposed space. [0:12:33, 0:12:34]: The colour palette [0:12:35, 0:12:42]: For this office, we'll incorporate the city's logo colors to bring vibrancy and a timeless style to the building. [0:12:42, 0:12:46]: Furniture and fixtures will be functional functional, durable. [0:12:47, 0:12:48]: And adaptive. [0:12:48, 0:12:50]: to staff and user needs. [0:12:50, 0:13:00]: flooring, wall cover, color, and all millwork will be durable and able to accommodate any future changes that the building will need. [0:13:05, 0:13:12]: Staff has followed the city's established procurement process and has identified McWright LLC. [0:13:12, 0:13:14]: As the contractor for this project. [0:13:15, 0:13:19]: They have arrived at a price of four hundred and seven thousand dollars. [0:13:20, 0:13:21]: For the remodel. [0:13:22, 0:13:26]: As confirmed by our city treasurer, the funds for this particular project. [0:13:26, 0:13:29]: Will come from the Ted Strickland building improvements. [0:13:30, 0:13:34]: Which is a part of the capital funding that is backed by Splas for. [0:13:37, 0:13:37]: And [0:13:38, 0:13:39]: If [0:13:39, 0:13:45]: You have anything else that you'd like to add, Alan? Um you can do so now. Yes. Thank you, Kira. Um [0:13:46, 0:13:47]: Staff uh [0:13:47, 0:13:51]: Council members and staff, um, as you know, the majority of the work that we do. [0:13:52, 0:13:55]: in economic development and in Main Street is in the community. [0:13:55, 0:13:58]: А we're excited about this project because this puts us. [0:13:59, 0:14:07]: Right there in the heart of our downtown, and we're easily accessible uh to citizens and uh business owners. So we we're excited about this and we're [0:14:08, 0:14:10]: Ready to answer any questions that you might have. [0:14:11, 0:14:16]: Thank you, Mr. Peterson. Council, what kind of questions do you have for these two staff members in reference to this issue? [0:14:17, 0:14:20]: Ms. Barber, you threw your hand up? Yeah, go ahead, please. [0:14:20, 0:14:25]: I wanted to ask Ms. Braggs, can you go back to the second to the last slide? [0:14:25, 0:14:28]: That shows the financial breakdowns. [0:14:28, 0:14:31]: Okay, let me try to do that. Hold on just a second. [0:14:38, 0:14:39]: Yes, ma'am. [0:14:39, 0:14:40]: Can you see that? [0:14:40, 0:14:42]: Yes, thank you. Okay. [0:14:42, 0:14:43]: Yeah. [0:14:44, 0:14:44]: Okay. [0:14:46, 0:14:49]: Okay, thank you. I wanted to ask um [0:14:50, 0:14:51]: Mr. Wiggins. [0:14:52, 0:14:52]: Um [0:14:54, 0:14:55]: Do you know how much we [0:14:56, 0:14:58]: budgeted for this particular project. [0:14:59, 0:15:00]: And if so [0:15:01, 0:15:03]: How much money or [0:15:03, 0:15:03]: That's it. [0:15:04, 0:15:04]: With a furniture. [0:15:06, 0:15:07]: For the furniture? [0:15:08, 0:15:08]: Yeah. [0:15:09, 0:15:13]: We budgeted f uh it was four hundred and forty four thousand. [0:15:15, 0:15:15]: For this project. [0:15:16, 0:15:17]: Okay, for the construction. [0:15:18, 0:15:20]: That I think that included F F and E as well. [0:15:21, 0:15:21]: Yeah. [0:15:22, 0:15:25]: It includes everything, get the the four hundred and forty four thousand. [0:15:25, 0:15:28]: was a uh budget amount and I think uh [0:15:29, 0:15:33]: Kara and Alan, when they went through, they included everything. [0:15:34, 0:15:36]: And uh when I told'em that's the budget, they [0:15:36, 0:15:39]: included everything to try to come up on the budget. [0:15:40, 0:15:41]: And they did. [0:15:41, 0:15:42]: Pony sent out. [0:15:44, 0:15:45]: For the construction. [0:15:46, 0:15:46]: Yes. [0:15:47, 0:15:52]: It's for construction. Thank you for uh w what else did you have on on the all? [0:15:52, 0:15:53]: Kingland. [0:15:54, 0:15:57]: Sure, if you need a book to that sheet. Oh, okay. [0:15:57, 0:16:11]: Okay. Doesn't include any kitchen appliances, desks, chairs, that kind of thing. Yeah. This is just for the construction. Um, because there was four hundred and forty-four thousand dollars budgeted for the total project. [0:16:12, 0:16:17]: We had some wiggle room, so construction came in under budget, so we have some space for. [0:16:17, 0:16:21]: Actually purchasing the furniture for the interior space. [0:16:21, 0:16:25]: We're only gonna have a small break room, so we won't require [0:16:25, 0:16:31]: Um any large kitchen fixtures uh we already have an ice maker that is there. [0:16:31, 0:16:42]: um ample counter. So they won't be doing a a lot of fixtures in the kitchen. The most fixtures will be associated with the office spaces, the desk and [0:16:42, 0:16:45]: Черс форсити. [0:16:45, 0:16:47]: And then the actual boardroom area. [0:16:48, 0:16:50]: Forward slash conference room area. [0:16:50, 0:16:54]: 'Cause also the the last year I think the the Ted was already uh [0:16:54, 0:16:57]: The kitchen area was already renovated. [0:16:57, 0:17:00]: So it's a lot of new stuff already there. [0:17:00, 0:17:01]: That they're gonna use. [0:17:03, 0:17:04]: Okay. That's true. [0:17:05, 0:17:06]: Thank you. [0:17:07, 0:17:09]: Council, any other questions that you may have? [0:17:10, 0:17:12]: Uh yes, sir. Go go write it, please. [0:17:13, 0:17:33]: Mr. Peterson, in terms of uh a sharing space between yourself and Main Street, how do you see that being played out in terms of your space versus uh what Main Street would share and uh how how is the layout in terms of the office? [0:17:33, 0:17:49]: Offices, uh we just had individual offices. So where's your office and where's uh the uh Miss Bragg's office or or lit or the assistant's office? Hold on just a second. [0:17:49, 0:17:49]: Mm-hmm. [0:17:57, 0:17:58]: Oops. [0:18:00, 0:18:01]: Beautiful family. [0:18:01, 0:18:03]: I'm sorry about that. [0:18:04, 0:18:05]: Thank you. [0:18:10, 0:18:11]: Okay, can you all see that? [0:18:12, 0:18:16]: Uh just your family right now. Oh we just see your your background. [0:18:16, 0:18:17]: All right, sorry. [0:18:23, 0:18:26]: Okay, now we have the slide. Now we have a slide present, please. [0:18:26, 0:18:28]: Okay. Very first slide. [0:18:28, 0:18:29]: This is what we have. [0:18:29, 0:18:31]: Sorry about that. Oh there you go. [0:18:31, 0:18:33]: There there we are. [0:18:33, 0:18:34]: Mm-hmm. [0:18:35, 0:18:37]: Can you see it, Councilmember Alexander? Yes, sir. [0:18:37, 0:18:39]: These are the offices here. Right. [0:18:40, 0:18:43]: If if you can you move your cursor to the offices, Miss Ms. Kira? [0:18:44, 0:18:46]: Yes. There you go. All right. Those are the [0:18:47, 0:18:49]: The uh the four offices right there. [0:18:49, 0:18:55]: Um now as as far as which one is going to be mine, Kira's and Lisa's. [0:18:55, 0:18:56]: Um, I don't know yet. [0:18:57, 0:18:57]: Mm-hmm. [0:18:58, 0:18:59]: Well I guess we'll uh [0:18:59, 0:19:03]: draw straws to see who gets the largest office. But um [0:19:03, 0:19:05]: But those are the offices right there. [0:19:05, 0:19:07]: Okay, so in terms of what you [0:19:08, 0:19:17]: envision on the economic development side, your use of this space would be primarily to do what you thinking uh you bringing the client [0:19:17, 0:19:21]: Yeah, uh prospective um business investors. [0:19:22, 0:19:26]: And depending on the number, I'll I'll likely have them in that conference room. [0:19:26, 0:19:33]: Mm-hmm. I like to have them in that in that conference room. Um the office I the office here is smaller than the office that I have in City Hall. [0:19:34, 0:19:38]: Um, so if if they bring drawings or anything like that, we'll be in in that conference room. [0:19:39, 0:19:40]: So um [0:19:40, 0:19:45]: Likely in the conference room is where I'm gonna have my meetings and we're downtown so we can walk downtown and [0:19:45, 0:19:53]: If we're going to a different part of the city, just hop in the city vehicle and drive with them. But you know, as you know, I don't I don't spend much time cooped up in the office. [0:19:53, 0:19:54]: So um [0:19:54, 0:19:56]: That that's the way we're we're going to arrange it. [0:19:58, 0:20:16]: So in terms of your future growth, and we like I would like to think that you would be growing your office. So we would have another office in there to add somebody uh to your department as well. I see we have four offices. So two of those offices would be yours and two of those would be Main Street. [0:20:17, 0:20:18]: Is that what the thought process is? [0:20:19, 0:20:21]: Or Miss Bragg, either one. [0:20:21, 0:20:33]: Well, um we did plan that was in our minds that we would want to plan for future growth. Um we also have the receptionist area here because someone can be seated there as well. [0:20:34, 0:20:36]: So we actually have [0:20:36, 0:20:37]: Um, five. [0:20:38, 0:20:39]: Spaces for staff. [0:20:40, 0:20:46]: And then an additional, as I mentioned before, an intern desk for um volunteer um [0:20:47, 0:20:49]: staff and or intern staff. [0:20:49, 0:20:50]: So [0:20:50, 0:20:57]: We feel that it is um ample that there is ample room for growth expansion of either one of [0:20:57, 0:20:58]: Um those [0:20:58, 0:21:01]: particular departments which is, you know, the [0:21:01, 0:21:03]: um economic development team. [0:21:04, 0:21:06]: Okay, and in terms of this project. [0:21:07, 0:21:07]: Uh [0:21:08, 0:21:09]: Lay out a timeline for it. [0:21:11, 0:21:15]: A pr I know you can't be sp you can't be down to the day, but something general. [0:21:18, 0:21:25]: Um well that would depend on um once we are able to um get [0:21:25, 0:21:27]: Move forward with the contract. Um [0:21:28, 0:21:33]: They are telling us that it would take anywhere from 90 to 120 days. [0:21:33, 0:21:35]: In order to um [0:21:35, 0:21:45]: do all of the renovations. And again, they gave us that wide window because there are some issues with um supply chain. [0:21:45, 0:21:56]: So there are some delays, or some projects have experienced some delays around the city with regard to receiving building materials. [0:21:56, 0:22:00]: But we feel that if we get started immediately, we would. [0:22:00, 0:22:10]: um be able to occupy this space by the end of the year or at the latest the early part of next year. But we would like to really push for [0:22:10, 0:22:15]: Um this year because again it is not a rebuild, it is a remodel. [0:22:16, 0:22:18]: Okay, well that that's very that sounds really um [0:22:19, 0:22:22]: You know, uh while that's aggressive to make sure that we can uh [0:22:22, 0:22:26]: Get this project going and get some construction in downtown going. [0:22:26, 0:22:28]: So it it creates some excitement. So thank you. [0:22:29, 0:22:36]: Thank you. I saw Mr. Blount's hand first, Mayor Purtain, if you don't mind. Um Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [0:22:36, 0:22:40]: Yeah, Ms. Bryce, could you put the uh the layout back up for me? [0:22:41, 0:22:42]: Yes, sir. [0:22:45, 0:22:46]: Is it up? [0:22:47, 0:22:49]: Yes. Yes, it is it is now. Okay. [0:22:51, 0:22:55]: Um, because I know one of the concerns that you all have had. [0:22:55, 0:22:56]: For quite some time. [0:22:57, 0:23:02]: has been storage space. And I'm looking at this. How how large is your storage space? [0:23:03, 0:23:05]: This is our storage space here. [0:23:05, 0:23:06]: It's sixty two. [0:23:07, 0:23:10]: I don't see could you see I'm moving the cursor? [0:23:12, 0:23:14]: Can you see that moving the cursor? [0:23:15, 0:23:17]: No, we don't see you can't see my cursor. [0:23:18, 0:23:18]: There you go. [0:23:18, 0:23:19]: There you go. [0:23:19, 0:23:20]: Okay. [0:23:20, 0:23:24]: This area here is sixty two square feet. [0:23:27, 0:23:30]: And the work area that we have here. [0:23:30, 0:23:35]: Is um all of that mealwork that you saw listed on the um [0:23:35, 0:23:36]: Pricing sheet. [0:23:37, 0:23:42]: That is going to be shelving, um, cubbies, drawers, and cabinetry. [0:23:42, 0:23:54]: so that we will be able to store um Main Street supplies and implements. If you've ever been in the Main Street closet here at the city of Stockbridge, it is chocked full at City Hall, it's chocked full. [0:23:54, 0:23:59]: So we took into the account that we do a lot of community events and activity. [0:23:59, 0:24:00]: And um [0:24:01, 0:24:06]: Programmed a lot of storage cabinetry and shelving in this particular work area. [0:24:07, 0:24:12]: We added this um storage space that is not present right now in the um Ted Strickland. [0:24:13, 0:24:19]: And then a dedicated cloak coat closet that would service this conference room. The conference room. [0:24:19, 0:24:22]: Um will also have cabinetry. [0:24:23, 0:24:26]: On both ends of the um room. [0:24:26, 0:24:29]: So we feel that we'll have ample storage space there. [0:24:29, 0:24:43]: But when we talk about tables and things like that, um, we are going to have to kind of rethink where some of that stuff is stored. We won't be using the large um round tables that are stored there currently. [0:24:43, 0:24:45]: Um but [0:24:45, 0:24:49]: That is something to think about with regard to how those tables are used. [0:24:50, 0:24:52]: Від Merrill Manders Conference Center. [0:24:52, 0:24:54]: and um the amphitheater. [0:24:56, 0:24:56]: Well [0:24:58, 0:25:00]: I'm just looking at um [0:25:00, 0:25:05]: future usage when I looked at the storage space and I know you guys had quite a bit. [0:25:06, 0:25:08]: Uh when you was designing this. [0:25:08, 0:25:28]: Was it designed and minded to only have 62 square feet of storage space or you was preferably trying to get more? Because I know that you guys talked about um items that we was uh Main Street was renting that we was if there was any purchase that's 62 square feet is pretty small. Um is that was there any [0:25:28, 0:25:35]: Any other area that you guys was looking at for storage? Because that was concerns. Oh, I'm sorry, sir. [0:25:36, 0:25:40]: I was gonna say Main Street as far as rentals are concerned, we [0:25:40, 0:25:51]: don't really do a lot of renting. We usually utilize the tables and chairs that the city already has in possession. We borrow them from the event staff. [0:25:51, 0:25:58]: Um, there is room um behind the Ted Strickland that we could um develop in the future. [0:25:58, 0:26:02]: Um to create um maybe a small um storage. [0:26:03, 0:26:04]: Um outbuilding. [0:26:05, 0:26:11]: Um, but that would be a part of our phase two of the alleyway project. We did kind of contemplate that. [0:26:11, 0:26:19]: But we really don't rent a lot of stuff. The things that we use, we utilize from [0:26:19, 0:26:19]: Um [0:26:20, 0:26:22]: the stocks that are already available. [0:26:22, 0:26:25]: through the Merrill Monders Conference Center and the event staff. [0:26:26, 0:26:31]: Okay. I was just looking at a lot of things like when we show movies and we do different things, but [0:26:31, 0:26:33]: Um I'm fine with that. Thanks. [0:26:33, 0:26:37]: Yeah, I was gonna say when we do movies, all of those tables and things that you see we rent. [0:26:38, 0:26:40]: From I make rent. We borrow from um [0:26:41, 0:26:42]: The better um [0:26:42, 0:26:46]: Event staff as far as the movie screen that is [0:26:46, 0:26:51]: Um, a part of the package that we utilize when we [0:26:51, 0:26:51]: Um [0:26:52, 0:27:01]: license our movies. Um so that's all a a a combo package, so to speak. The movie, the licensing, and the screen are a package deal. [0:27:01, 0:27:02]: Okay, thank you. [0:27:03, 0:27:04]: Yes, sir. [0:27:04, 0:27:10]: Mayor Proten comments, go ahead, please. Thank you. Uh Dr. Peterson and Ms. Braggs. [0:27:10, 0:27:12]: In terms of [0:27:12, 0:27:15]: uh commute community meetings [0:27:16, 0:27:17]: Focus groups [0:27:19, 0:27:26]: What is the plan? I know we've had uh as an advisory board member, I know we've had some sessions. [0:27:26, 0:27:33]: uh outside but what is the plans it's looking at the space uh uh on the interior [0:27:33, 0:27:40]: What is the plan for those types of uh community gatherings or focus groups? [0:27:41, 0:27:52]: Well, we were very um strategic and um very intentional with the creation of this space. Um we wanted to make sure that there was a large board slash conference room. [0:27:52, 0:27:56]: available in this particular facility because we would like [0:27:56, 0:27:58]: To be able to offer this space. [0:27:58, 0:28:03]: The small business owners who may need to um have a meeting space. [0:28:03, 0:28:07]: Ам, і спеціальні армтоун бізнес і антропенюрс. [0:28:07, 0:28:11]: Ви хост класи, ви хав аверий строгрші. [0:28:11, 0:28:13]: with um truest bank. [0:28:13, 0:28:15]: Project Hope and we also have [0:28:15, 0:28:18]: А стронг реляншеншип від Смал Бізнес Девелопна Центр. [0:28:18, 0:28:22]: out of the University of Georgia located at Clayton State University. [0:28:23, 0:28:24]: They provide um [0:28:24, 0:28:27]: Техніка асистент to our small business owners. [0:28:28, 0:28:33]: and our great partners. So we're hoping that we will be able to host classes there. [0:28:33, 0:28:39]: invite the community to this space and also serve as a welcome center in the downtown area. [0:28:39, 0:28:58]: We want um entrepreneurs, um, small business owners and um even developers to see this as a space where they can come meet with staff, learn about the community, and also learn about all of the investment opportunities that will be available in the city. That's why it was so important. [0:28:58, 0:29:06]: For us to locate the economic development offices in this space. We felt that having economic development here. [0:29:06, 0:29:09]: In the downtown with the Main Street program staff. [0:29:10, 0:29:13]: we would be able to kind of be that one two punch to be able to [0:29:14, 0:29:24]: give our prospective investors a view of our community, a welcome to our community, and then a display of all of the opportunities that we can offer. [0:29:26, 0:29:28]: In addition to that, uh Mayor Pro Tem. [0:29:28, 0:29:33]: The Henry County Chamber is in the beginning stages of of their incubator program. [0:29:33, 0:29:37]: And I've spoken with them about their program and they're in the beginning stages of that. [0:29:38, 0:29:46]: And so uh there's an opportunity for us to partner with them as well for businesses that are participating in that program that are from Stockbridge. [0:29:47, 0:29:56]: Right. We've talked with John about having almost like a a satellite type area um here in Stockbridge because um we think that there is a need [0:29:57, 0:30:00]: For the Chamber to reach out more to um [0:30:00, 0:30:03]: Екстендер річ то стокбridж бізнес. [0:30:03, 0:30:09]: And we think that this would be a win-win for our developing partnership with the Chamber of Commerce as well. [0:30:10, 0:30:13]: Right. I I I guess I was um [0:30:14, 0:30:19]: sort of going back looking at some of the things that had happened in the past. [0:30:19, 0:30:25]: And even potentially going forward, I know there's been a number of [0:30:25, 0:30:28]: uh sessions um outside [0:30:29, 0:30:32]: And and I guess I was I wanted to hear [0:30:32, 0:30:52]: um something along those lines. I know with the um the breeze way eventually is going to come. And and I guess um Mrs. Braggs, I guess as we go forward, uh when you meet uh with the advisory board, I guess some of those things come up. But I'm [0:30:52, 0:30:59]: Just sort of just going back, and the reason I'm I'm harping on this because I I just know how successful. [0:30:59, 0:31:11]: They were. And uh and one thing I I think uh as a board member myself and I think for the Main Street program, um citizens always came out. [0:31:11, 0:31:14]: uh for those uh sessions. [0:31:14, 0:31:30]: And uh there was a number of citizens that would that that that came out. And even when we met with the uh business owners uh recently, we had a large number to come out. I was looking at the the seating uh in the diagram, looked like there was like 14. [0:31:30, 0:31:32]: Seats in the conference room. [0:31:32, 0:31:34]: And I can put that back up. [0:31:34, 0:31:35]: Hold on. [0:31:36, 0:31:49]: And I guess eventually uh that would happen, but I guess I was just still sort of thinking uh in terms of going forward. And I I guess those things will happen, Ms. Brad, because I know you and um [0:31:49, 0:31:52]: Uh Miss Reed, I know you all [0:31:52, 0:32:06]: are always planning those kind of sessions. And I just know how successful they were uh when we had those um outdoor sessions. And I guess I wanted to hear if some of those things were [0:32:06, 0:32:15]: Um, you know, in the plan and and I guess without you answering that I I guess I guess they really are. But I I would just listen to see if you were gonna speak to any of that. [0:32:15, 0:32:26]: Oh um well I can do that. Um as you know, we have established a um downtown beautification and activation committee that is a a joint um committee. [0:32:27, 0:32:28]: Um that is [0:32:28, 0:32:30]: Composed of DDA members and [0:32:31, 0:32:36]: Main Street Advisory Board members and this committee is tasked with [0:32:36, 0:32:37]: Uh coming up. [0:32:37, 0:32:39]: with and brainstorming ways to [0:32:40, 0:32:41]: further activate our downtown. [0:32:42, 0:32:52]: We see the Breezeway as being an extension of our Main Street program and economic development offices. So we will be hosting. [0:32:52, 0:32:54]: Outdoor events um [0:32:54, 0:32:58]: рецепс мітн греть азви авай [0:32:58, 0:33:05]: in this space, in this extension of our offices, um, the Breezeway. So we're looking forward to that type of [0:33:05, 0:33:06]: Um [0:33:06, 0:33:08]: activation in the downtown because again [0:33:09, 0:33:14]: We want people to get used to coming downtown and being a part of downtown. [0:33:14, 0:33:15]: And being interested. [0:33:16, 0:33:17]: And being um [0:33:17, 0:33:18]: An active participant. [0:33:19, 0:33:23]: in this area. So we're looking forward to those types of activities. [0:33:24, 0:33:25]: Thank you. [0:33:25, 0:33:31]: Sir welcome. No, sir, no, stand by please. Stand by miss Gantt is next, please. Wait, Ms. Gantt. [0:33:31, 0:33:40]: Ms. Braggs, I s uh um thank you for that presentation. In regards to the uh the in the past, we've had another [0:33:40, 0:33:50]: rendering of possible office for Main Street and economic development, the DDA was included. Is the DDA included for an office space there as well? [0:33:51, 0:33:58]: Well, as we mentioned, we do have the um fourth office that is available for um [0:33:59, 0:34:12]: extended um staff use and or board use. We um the DDA is not a I guess a staff member, but they are a very active um partner and contributor to downtown development. [0:34:12, 0:34:17]: So we would be willing to make space for the DDA to be able to operate. [0:34:17, 0:34:20]: Out of um this particular um [0:34:21, 0:34:25]: Location and um again we have um [0:34:25, 0:34:33]: The intern slash volunteer space that is also available since they are um more of a a part-time presence. [0:34:33, 0:34:35]: In um our [0:34:35, 0:34:37]: Day to day operations. [0:34:37, 0:34:45]: But again, we have that extra office and if it is the um council's desire that can be utilized for them. [0:34:47, 0:34:48]: Okay. [0:34:48, 0:34:49]: Uh Mr. Gardner, please. [0:34:50, 0:34:55]: I'm I'm good. Um good. I I was just in the setting. Um Mr. Count uh Mr. [0:34:56, 0:34:57]: I'm April Tim. [0:34:57, 0:35:04]: Um, you know, when you have a large event that can't, you know, utilize the conference room, we we also still do have the Merrill Manderson City Hall. [0:35:05, 0:35:07]: Where you could have gatherings if you're doing [0:35:07, 0:35:18]: listening sessions and you need to have a larger room. We still have that facility right down the road to utilize as well, a city hall. So and this building is is geared to house economic development as a whole. [0:35:19, 0:35:22]: So your mean street, your DDA program. [0:35:23, 0:35:26]: will all be housed out of there, they're staffed by the same people. [0:35:26, 0:35:34]: Um so we should be pretty much good to go with this building and then that frees up some office space in City Hall, as you know. [0:35:34, 0:35:37]: We're we're going to have to grow a little bit. [0:35:37, 0:35:48]: Um and in light of some things happening in particular in the near future, if they do, we're we're gonna have to grow. So we're gonna need office space because City Hall is is uh full. [0:35:50, 0:35:52]: Okay, good deal. Uh Mr. Alexander, go ahead, please. [0:35:53, 0:36:01]: Yes, uh uh Ms. Kent uh kind of really stole my thunder there, but because of the DDA, we certainly are would encourage and support. [0:36:01, 0:36:02]: That um [0:36:03, 0:36:07]: You know, that we have the Office for Economic Development, which is Mr. Peterson. [0:36:07, 0:36:13]: And then the DDA uh certainly does need a space because it's active and certainly [0:36:13, 0:36:24]: uh those individuals uh need the equal representation. So that certainly would be my suggestion to have one academic development and then one DDA office in the building too. [0:36:26, 0:36:28]: All right, any other questions, comments from the council? [0:36:29, 0:36:32]: And if Miss Barber, you have something you need to say? [0:36:32, 0:36:35]: Ms. Braggs. Yes, ma'am. [0:36:35, 0:36:37]: the capacity of the conference room. [0:36:38, 0:36:46]: Um it is it is set up for 14 people at the table. However, we are going to be getting a um [0:36:47, 0:36:53]: a board table that can be um broken down into different quadrants. [0:36:53, 0:37:04]: So we would be able to get additional chairs around the single tables if we need to. We wanted this space to be very adaptable and the furniture that we select. [0:37:04, 0:37:13]: to be adaptable as well to be able to accommodate more numbers when we're not in a board meeting setting. [0:37:16, 0:37:19]: Okay. Any other questions or concerns? [0:37:19, 0:37:22]: If not, I need a motion to accept this proposal, please. [0:37:24, 0:37:29]: It's a motion to accept the proposal. Ms. Barber, you you you're making that motion, Miss Barber? Is there a second? [0:37:30, 0:37:36]: Mr. Okay, Mayor Potem, I'm sorry. Mayor Potem seconded that motion. Okay. If there's no further discussion, all favor, please indicate. [0:37:38, 0:37:40]: And Miss Cat. [0:37:41, 0:37:43]: Oh Ms. Gantt, did you vote? [0:37:44, 0:37:48]: Okay, you voted us in a an affirmative. Okay, so it's a decision. Okay, thank you very much. [0:37:49, 0:37:49]: All right. [0:37:50, 0:37:51]: Thank you very much, everyone. [0:37:52, 0:37:53]: Well, thank you very much, Council. [0:37:54, 0:37:59]: The sewer department is requesting the city council's approval to renew the term contract. [0:38:00, 0:38:20]: For request for proposal number 2018-001Q, special non-hazardous waste service agreement between Republic Services of the City of Stockbridge in the amount of$35,000. Funding source is a sewer budget uh department budget presented by Mr. Aaron and Mr. Brown Broadshore. [0:38:19, 0:38:21]: Holsener, excuse me, Mr. Holsener. [0:38:21, 0:38:22]: Go ahead, please, gentlemen. [0:38:23, 0:38:26]: Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council, I'll let Mr. Holtzinger speak to this item. [0:38:27, 0:38:30]: Thank you, Mayor Council, for hearing me and um just [0:38:30, 0:38:33]: This what we want is [0:38:33, 0:38:53]: Where we take our residual sludge. Just I want you to know we don't we try our very best to limit all we can limit what we take to the landfill. We normally take it to farmers fields where we apply it there where it really all it costs. [0:38:53, 0:39:13]: We have to take it to the landfill when weather doesn't permit or the farms don't permit via their cutting hay or something like that. This is also a manner of logistics. [0:39:13, 0:39:24]: There's really no other place around that's reasonably close and this is a good ways away for us to take it. It's a manner of just I have to. [0:39:26, 0:39:30]: Okay. Mr. Blount, do you have a question, sir? Go ahead. [0:39:35, 0:39:37]: Uh can't hear you, Mr. Blount. You're muted. [0:39:39, 0:39:47]: Mayor and the sake of time, unless other council members have some questions pertaining to this, I would like for us to uh I motion to approve the agreement between uh [0:39:48, 0:39:54]: uh um for the uh between Republican the city of Stockbridge or for a sum of thirty five thousand dollars. [0:39:54, 0:40:01]: Okay. So all right. Let's do out of curiosity, Miss Gan second that Miss Barber, you have some additional comments. Go ahead, please. [0:40:01, 0:40:04]: I do. Um so [0:40:05, 0:40:08]: Is this a one-year contract or is it a month-to-month? [0:40:11, 0:40:29]: No, ma'am, this is an annual contract because with sluds, as Mr. Holstinger said, sometimes it's raining and you can't access the fields. And also each field has a limit that a EPD will allow us to apply on those fields. So once you reach that limit. [0:40:30, 0:40:36]: And weather conditions, you have no other choice but to land apply to sludge, and all landfills do not take sludge. [0:40:37, 0:40:39]: Okay, so looking at the [0:40:40, 0:40:42]: Service agreement doesn't expire until [0:40:43, 0:40:46]: Well, no, it part last year in December. [0:40:49, 0:40:50]: Okay, so [0:40:54, 0:40:55]: I'm confused. [0:40:55, 0:40:58]: I'm looking at this um service agreement. [0:40:59, 0:41:04]: And the expiration date expired December fourth of twenty twenty one. [0:41:04, 0:41:11]: So if we approve it now with this existing contract, will expire as of [0:41:11, 0:41:12]: Today. [0:41:12, 0:41:17]: twenty twenty three or will it expire December of twenty twenty-three? [0:41:17, 0:41:18]: Well [0:41:18, 0:41:19]: Mr. B are you? [0:41:20, 0:41:28]: We'd like for it to expire December 2023 since it's it goes from budget year to bur budget year, so it's not a mid-year. [0:41:28, 0:41:35]: uh renewal so we're adding those months to get us to 2023 so that we're on the same calendar cycle as the budget. [0:41:36, 0:41:40]: Okay, this is for thirty-five thousand. [0:41:40, 0:41:41]: Yes, ma'am. [0:41:41, 0:41:45]: Okay. This is not one of those automatic renewal contracts. [0:41:45, 0:41:48]: No ma'am, it comes before you every year because. [0:41:49, 0:41:55]: F uh the budget amount typically exceeds the city manager's signing authority and this is a yearly renewal. [0:41:57, 0:41:57]: Okay. [0:41:58, 0:42:00]: I wanna ask really quick. [0:42:00, 0:42:01]: There are Wiggins. [0:42:02, 0:42:04]: And Mr. Gardner, I don't see Mr. Berry here. [0:42:05, 0:42:08]: But I'm curious, now they review this contract. [0:42:09, 0:42:12]: I'm just looking at the agenda request form and I don't see [0:42:12, 0:42:13]: You think we need it? [0:42:15, 0:42:16]: Mr. Wiggins. [0:42:16, 0:42:19]: I'm not sure if uh Mr. Berry's uh [0:42:20, 0:42:23]: reviewed his contract. I don't I don't think it's one of these contracts. [0:42:24, 0:42:26]: uh that has come before him. [0:42:27, 0:42:27]: Um [0:42:28, 0:42:30]: I think this is just a uh [0:42:30, 0:42:32]: It's almost like uh uh operations. [0:42:33, 0:42:34]: For public works. [0:42:35, 0:42:35]: So [0:42:36, 0:42:41]: Normally if it was uh up under the city manager, they would go ahead and do it. But since it's over [0:42:42, 0:42:45]: The city manager, this type of operating budget is uh [0:42:45, 0:42:47]: It just needs your uh uh [0:42:47, 0:42:49]: The city council's approval. [0:42:50, 0:42:52]: No, but we always need legal. [0:42:53, 0:42:54]: Ado. [0:42:55, 0:42:55]: That's all. [0:42:58, 0:42:59]: All right, any other comments from the council? [0:43:01, 0:43:06]: Motion was made and seconded. So all all members if if you approve this, please indicate [0:43:08, 0:43:08]: One [0:43:09, 0:43:10]: Two, three. [0:43:10, 0:43:11]: Miss Barber? [0:43:13, 0:43:13]: I'm sorry. [0:43:14, 0:43:20]: I'll abstain only because um four zero one thank you haven't information just yet. [0:43:21, 0:43:21]: Sorry. [0:43:22, 0:43:25]: All right. Four zero one motion. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you. Welcome, sir. [0:43:26, 0:43:31]: The public works uh department is requesting the city council approval to renew a term contract. [0:43:31, 0:43:47]: For with contract number two thousand one nine two zero one nine-zero zero zero twenty-two P facility maintenance solutions groundkeeper landscaper between uh CGL facilities management LLC and the city of Stockbridge an amount of three hundred thousand. [0:43:48, 0:43:49]: Three hundred thousand dollars. [0:43:49, 0:43:53]: The funding source is a public works budget presented by Mr. Aaron, please. [0:43:53, 0:44:04]: Yes, Ms. Mayor and Council. Staff is coming back, coming tonight to ask the city to renew the contract with CGL. I think a month or so ago, you approved the budget amount. [0:44:05, 0:44:06]: For this uh [0:44:07, 0:44:08]: Contract uh [0:44:08, 0:44:16]: to go ahead with the budget, which was$300,000. So we just ask you to approve the renewal of the contract. [0:44:16, 0:44:18]: For the right-of-way maintenance. [0:44:19, 0:44:19]: Okay. [0:44:20, 0:44:22]: Council questions and concerns you may have. [0:44:23, 0:44:24]: Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [0:44:25, 0:44:29]: Yes. Um in comparison to last year. [0:44:30, 0:44:32]: Has there been an increase in the cost? [0:44:33, 0:44:37]: Well, that there's increase because of materials and fuel and [0:44:38, 0:44:40]: increases and things like that. [0:44:40, 0:44:43]: That the nine point six percent that's showing. [0:44:43, 0:44:48]: Yeah. But but also we took into account that during the last service deliveries. [0:44:49, 0:44:49]: Agreement. [0:44:50, 0:44:57]: with the county that we uh receive some roles that we hadn't normally been maintaining. So those are gonna be included as well. [0:44:57, 0:45:03]: Okay, but as it pertains to the m material cost and labor cost. [0:45:05, 0:45:08]: What's the difference between last year and this year? I just want to compare this. [0:45:09, 0:45:12]: Well, right now there's some um [0:45:12, 0:45:18]: conversation between Ms. Miller and N CGL because the state hasn't officially [0:45:19, 0:45:28]: approve the increase amount. So we're still operating on last year's contract amount until the state determines if they can increase their pricing. [0:45:31, 0:45:31]: Thank you. [0:45:33, 0:45:34]: Any other questions from the council? [0:45:37, 0:45:39]: Okay, if there's no other questions, is there a motion to accept this proposal? [0:45:40, 0:45:45]: We're piggybacking off of a state contract with this, correct? Yes, ma'am. [0:45:45, 0:45:46]: Yes, I have. [0:45:49, 0:45:51]: So a motion to approve this proposal. [0:45:53, 0:45:58]: Uh well y yes. So okay m mr Mr. Alexander, Ms. Gantt, you second that motion? [0:45:59, 0:46:05]: Yes. Okay, good. Any further discussion? And if not, all in favor, please indicate. [0:46:06, 0:46:10]: It's uh look unanous decision. Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. Aaron. [0:46:11, 0:46:12]: Thank you, Mr. Mayor and Council. [0:46:13, 0:46:33]: Public Works Department is requesting City Council's approval to piggyback on contract for Unifirst, Sourcewell, RFP number 040920, City of Stockbridge contract number 2020-0027P for uniforms and related products and services through May 2024. [0:46:33, 0:46:40]: for the annual amount of thirty thousand dollars. The funds will be provided from the accountant numbers. [0:46:40, 0:46:46]: One hundred dash four two two zero zero dash five three one seven five zero. [0:46:46, 0:46:51]: Five oh five dash four three three zero zero dash [0:46:52, 0:46:56]: Five three one seven uh one seven five zero. [0:46:56, 0:47:01]: Then on to five oh five dash four four two zero zero dash five three one seven five zero. [0:47:02, 0:47:07]: comma five one zero dash four two five zero zero dash five three one [0:47:08, 0:47:14]: Seven five zero, comma, five, five, five, dash, one, five, six, five, six, five, zero. [0:47:14, 0:47:25]: Dash five three one seven five zero comma one hundred dash six two two zero zero dash five three one one four zero comma [0:47:25, 0:47:38]: One hundred dash one five six five zero dash five two two three one nine comma one hundred dash one five six five zero dash five two two three two two comma [0:47:39, 0:47:50]: One hundred dash one five six five zero dash five two two two three two four, comma. One hundred dash one five six five zero dash five three one seven. [0:47:51, 0:47:52]: Five zero. [0:47:52, 0:48:11]: in the FY 2022 and FY23 but 2023 budgets presented by Mr. Aaron. Go ahead sir please. Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. This is for approval of the uniform contracts for the public staff and event staff. And it also includes mats and rugs at City Hall and assorted city buildings. [0:48:13, 0:48:15]: Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [0:48:15, 0:48:27]: Mayor, unless there's any questions from uh there's any questions from the council. I'd like to I do have a question. There's some questions there, sir. It seems like Mr. I I got hold on, Mr. Mayor Potem. Council I'm in Nile Zan, go ahead, please. [0:48:27, 0:48:35]: Yeah, the one thing that I want to understand is uh as we're moving forward and we're doing the rebranding with the new brand for the city. [0:48:36, 0:48:52]: And then with the new slogo and uh are these old uniforms that we're ordering, or we're looking at uh doing something new and uh and falling in line with the new branding for the city, uh where community connects, uh the new colors, the new logo. [0:48:52, 0:48:58]: because uh that that would seem to be appropriate at this point instead of ordering old uniforms. [0:49:00, 0:49:02]: Well, these uniforms don't have [0:49:03, 0:49:16]: at the moment don't have the logo on maybe a few of them but they typically have a a person's name and on one side and the city of Stockbridge on the other side. If we wanted to incorporate the city's logo we can meet with the vendor and [0:49:16, 0:49:18]: And request that. [0:49:18, 0:49:21]: Well well that's what I would suggest that you do. [0:49:21, 0:49:41]: Is that you bring it back to us and then uh you know, because as we go forward, we want that we want everybody out there marketing the brand appropriately. So when somebody sees a public works person, we want them consistent in seeing the same logo as on the amphitheater or the new police department. So how much time do you think that would take? [0:49:42, 0:49:49]: I have the the vendor normally comes on Thursday, so he'll be here the uh this Thursday. I'll have that conversation with him. [0:49:50, 0:49:51]: Okay, with that. [0:49:51, 0:49:51]: Okay. [0:49:52, 0:49:58]: Go ahead. And I'll and I'll r respond to Mr. Gardner as to the time frame to get those switched over. [0:49:58, 0:50:03]: Well, that's my thought. I don't know about the rest of the council. I think we need to do that. Yeah. [0:50:03, 0:50:12]: 'Cause some of most of them too are polo shirts and they just have City of Stock Bridge on them. They don't have a logo, so we'll we'll request that. [0:50:13, 0:50:14]: Yeah, we want to do better. Thanks. [0:50:15, 0:50:15]: Nice. [0:50:16, 0:50:18]: Air Pro Town, please, go ahead. [0:50:18, 0:50:22]: Uh Mr. Aaron, I know we mentioned here um [0:50:22, 0:50:25]: These budget line items. [0:50:26, 0:50:30]: Uh can you recall the amount that's [0:50:31, 0:50:36]: in the budget for uniform and you you mentioned here several items. [0:50:36, 0:50:40]: Um, do you have a rough estimate of [0:50:40, 0:50:43]: And it for the twenty twenty-two budget. [0:50:44, 0:50:46]: that total amount and and I guess [0:50:48, 0:50:50]: I I I'm assuming [0:50:50, 0:50:59]: The this category is something that we always approve every year. I know we haven't got to the 2023. [0:51:00, 0:51:03]: All the twenty twenty four budget, but [0:51:03, 0:51:06]: Uh give us an idea of what's [0:51:07, 0:51:09]: Just for twenty twenty two. [0:51:10, 0:51:13]: Uh just roughly how much was approved. [0:51:14, 0:51:17]: uh for uniforms in that 2022 budget. [0:51:18, 0:51:30]: The each division in public works has a line item for uniforms, water has a line item, sewer, storm, water, sanitation, government buildings, general maintenance, and events, events as well has a line item. [0:51:31, 0:51:49]: for our uniforms and the cost is based on the number of employees in that division. Uh general maintenance would have the largest uniform cost because they have the largest number of employees. So they're probably at about$10,000,$12,000. Then next would be the sewer department, then water department. [0:51:49, 0:51:55]: then events would be a smaller cost. I don't know what that budget is, but it is included in this. [0:51:55, 0:51:59]: this cost because they've got two employees. [0:51:59, 0:52:00]: Sorry. [0:52:00, 0:52:01]: I'm sorry. [0:52:01, 0:52:08]: is based on the number of employees, but general maintenance has the largest uh share of the expense for uniforms. [0:52:09, 0:52:25]: So these line item numbers, uh, they consist they consist of um a number of departments. Uh I believe that's that's what you say. So all of these numbers here, they they vary through the various departments. [0:52:26, 0:52:33]: Yes, so based on the number of employees, each employee gets 11 uniforms and they get a jacket for the winner. [0:52:33, 0:52:43]: So that's part of the uh uniform agreement and plus some of the rubs you see in in City Hall, the mats you wipe your feet on when you come in the door, that's a part of the uniforms as well. [0:52:44, 0:52:52]: So if if so if I go back and look at these numbers, then I'll be able to see uh exactly what department uh it's it's coming out of. [0:52:53, 0:52:54]: Yeah. Okay. [0:52:55, 0:53:01]: If you need a breakdown, we have a spreadsheet for the public works. We don't have it for [0:53:01, 0:53:21]: uh the event staff as they're not a part of public works, but for each uh division within public works, we can get you those figures for what it costs for uniforms. Okay, no, no problem. I'm just out of curious, uh all of the numbers that you mentioned, I I I just wanted to hear you say that they were from the different departments [0:53:21, 0:53:33]: departments. So it's just uh information, just knowledge that I I just like to know about the budget. And when you start throwing out these uh line items, uh you answered my question as far as [0:53:33, 0:53:38]: they come from a number of departments. So that's just the information I needed to know. [0:53:39, 0:53:40]: All right. Thank you, sir. [0:53:40, 0:53:42]: Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [0:53:44, 0:53:48]: In re in respect to the request by Mr. Alexander. [0:53:48, 0:54:08]: um on a motion would you be willing for us to go ahead motion to agree with this and then if the amount exceeds the purview of the city manager then it would come back to us that way if it doesn't these items can be approved through the city city that that portion can be approved through the city manager and it can go on forward and what [0:54:08, 0:54:11]: would have to come back to us. Are you amenable to that, Ms. Allison? [0:54:11, 0:54:11]: No. [0:54:12, 0:54:18]: I I I I think that they might be okay, but wouldn't we wanna see them to see what they look like? [0:54:19, 0:54:23]: I don't know. Maybe y'all don't do that. I'm assuming it would be the city's logo. [0:54:24, 0:54:29]: And and the names on the suits and their names in the city logo like we do on our shirts. [0:54:31, 0:54:37]: Mr. Gardner has his hand up. What is he saying? Well, yeah, I mean he could uh but go go ahead, Mr. Gardner. [0:54:37, 0:54:39]: Yes, yes, sir. Um [0:54:40, 0:54:48]: The the process already allows for that council member Blount that once you approve this and then we go back and have [0:54:48, 0:54:50]: The um [0:54:50, 0:54:56]: Consultants um add the city's uh current logo, which um council member [0:54:56, 0:55:01]: Alexander makes a lot of sense that you know, we start showing showing our new branding. [0:55:01, 0:55:06]: And it should be throughout not all vehicles and on our shirts and and and uniforms. Um [0:55:07, 0:55:27]: You know, if that process, like any other process, once it's approved and we go ahead, we got the contract to add any addition, if that exceeds the 25,000, yes, we will bring that back. That's the normal process that we have in place. So it doesn't have to be part of the motion. That's just that's our normal operating procedure. That if it comes in at$10,000. [0:55:27, 0:55:32]: dollars, I can sign that to make sure that moves forward as long as we have the funds and the budget to to cover it. [0:55:33, 0:55:53]: Yeah, but uh but because I the I I was here to bring it back and I think your amount is twenty five thousand uh that that's correct. Yeah, if it exceeds that then it automatically comes back to you guys. Yeah, but uh I'm saying that w if we could go ahead and approve it tonight and let it go through the process and if it needs to come back to us, we'll allow it to come back to us. But I like if we can just go ahead and approve it tonight if that's [0:55:53, 0:56:13]: Okay with uh discount. Yeah, yeah. I mean what I was saying was that our normal procurement procedure would allow for me to assign anything and to assign off on anything under the 25. So that's normal. It doesn't have to be part of the motion. That's just part of our normal operating procedures. But if it does, we'll bring it back. If it falls under that, we'll bring it down and [0:56:12, 0:56:20]: It's gonna be the same logo, whether it's the S and the and the and the sloops underneath and then the employee's name. [0:56:20, 0:56:23]: I mean, it's gonna be existing logos, not gonna be anything we change. [0:56:23, 0:56:26]: Well I would I would like to motion to approve the uh [0:56:26, 0:56:32]: The thirty thousand dollars with the contingency that was set forth to uh for the approval for the logo. [0:56:33, 0:56:37]: A second. All right. Ms. Barber, you had a question. [0:56:39, 0:56:43]: Okay, so what is before us is a proposal. [0:56:43, 0:56:46]: This proposal is for two years. [0:56:46, 0:56:49]: And I'm looking at the pricing structure and it talks about a [0:56:50, 0:56:56]: five year contract term commitment, a four-year contract term commitment, and a three-year contract term. [0:56:56, 0:56:57]: Commitment. [0:56:58, 0:57:00]: I don't see a breakdown of what [0:57:01, 0:57:03]: those costs are and I'm sure [0:57:03, 0:57:04]: The longer the term. [0:57:05, 0:57:06]: Maybe the less. [0:57:06, 0:57:07]: We [0:57:08, 0:57:08]: Span. [0:57:10, 0:57:11]: But I'll have a breakdown of that. [0:57:13, 0:57:14]: Can anybody [0:57:14, 0:57:17]: Answer that question. Mr. Aaron, could you have that, sir? [0:57:18, 0:57:30]: That would have to come from procurement. Procurement gave us the the information to upload for the agenda, but I know over the last two years we haven't had an increase in the uniform costs. [0:57:31, 0:57:37]: But this is a proposal for a two year agreement. Well, we can strike the [0:57:37, 0:57:45]: We can strike out 2023. I don't know. And we go with the current year and we'll revisit that next year. [0:57:47, 0:57:49]: Because twenty twenty three is not here yet. [0:57:50, 0:57:54]: Well, n what is before us, you're asking. [0:57:54, 0:57:56]: For us to approve. [0:57:57, 0:57:58]: This two year. [0:57:58, 0:57:59]: Proposal. [0:58:02, 0:58:02]: Yeah. [0:58:04, 0:58:10]: My well stand by stand by first. Uh Ms. Barb okay. Mr. Garner, go ahead, please. [0:58:10, 0:58:20]: Uh council member Baba, I mean, if if you look at what's happening now with everything going up, I think if we lock the price in for the next two years at the 30, um [0:58:21, 0:58:27]: That might actually save us versus having to come back and if if we're in in a worse um [0:58:27, 0:58:41]: uh inflationary period, you're gonna see that cost go up. So we s if we lock in at this cost, it might be in our best interest versus trying to get it to see what what it'll be again next year. And if it goes up, then we're having to change the budget versus [0:58:42, 0:58:46]: Versus us having a static cost over the next two years and then hopefully by twenty twenty three. [0:58:47, 0:58:48]: Twenty twenty four. [0:58:48, 0:59:00]: You know, we're in a better economic situation and and the prices will go down. And obviously, hopefully then we get a reduce in price or the price stays the same. But with the way things are going, with costs going up, with materials and so forth and so on. [0:59:00, 0:59:08]: It might be in our best interest to lock at the price that we are in s in light of the fact that Desh has just said that we haven't had any increase so far. [0:59:09, 0:59:12]: You know that there's gonna be an increase coming somewhere. [0:59:12, 0:59:16]: Um just because of headlight, everything we're doing, yeah. [0:59:16, 0:59:22]: You're thinking hypothetical and I don't have any well in front of me. [0:59:22, 0:59:30]: What when you say financials, um, what do you mean like how much the rugs cost versus how much each of the uniform costs, that type of breakdown? [0:59:31, 0:59:33]: Based on two year [0:59:33, 0:59:38]: Three year, four year, five year, as this proposal suggests. [0:59:38, 0:59:41]: I can't see it, I can't compare. [0:59:44, 0:59:46]: See any breakdowns for that? [0:59:48, 0:59:49]: Unless I'm overlooking it. [0:59:50, 0:59:51]: Mr. Wigan. [0:59:52, 0:59:53]: Are you able to? [0:59:54, 0:59:55]: Next boy. [0:59:59, 1:00:05]: No no I can't I I I need to um I don't have those documents in front of me, but um [1:00:05, 1:00:06]: Yeah. [1:00:07, 1:00:10]: I I think what what what um Desha was was trying to do [1:00:11, 1:00:12]: Was uh with the two year [1:00:13, 1:00:15]: Is it's like what Fred says, trying to lock in. [1:00:16, 1:00:18]: And get those prices. I think um [1:00:19, 1:00:22]: And this is right. We have it the the uniform cost is not [1:00:22, 1:00:25]: Gone up in the past two years and [1:00:25, 1:00:29]: If we can keep it at thirty thousand the way that he's been spending. [1:00:30, 1:00:37]: Because each of each of the um the accounts for the next for the past two years has been basically 30,000 each year. [1:00:37, 1:00:39]: And that's including the rugs and everything. [1:00:43, 1:00:50]: But if we would need to uh take that and break it down, I think that'd be part of uh what we need to get back to you with. [1:00:51, 1:00:53]: We can break it down and put the cost next to them. [1:00:57, 1:00:59]: All right, uh Mr. Blount, do you have some additional questions? [1:01:00, 1:01:15]: Um for me, I just I think what was been stated here even by our city manager that this is a price that we pay annually and to lock that price in for two more years would be advantageous for us as a city, I believe. So [1:01:15, 1:01:25]: I think my my motions would stand that we would um stick with this for the as it is written for the two years or pertain to the contract now. So that's my motion. [1:01:25, 1:01:28]: Sir. Uh yeah, go ahead, Mr. Alzheimer. [1:01:28, 1:01:35]: Yeah, this is what I want clarification on. It sounds very reasonable in terms of uh locking in the price and everything. [1:01:35, 1:01:40]: But what I'm looking at is I want the city manager to understand what the directive is, Mr. Gardner. [1:01:42, 1:02:02]: Is that the directive would be to uh have it and to review it uh with the newest, latest uh city uh logo and marketing material. As well as I certainly myself, I would like to see them wear the same type, some of the shirts that we wear, especially in the summertime, like the dry fit shirts. [1:02:02, 1:02:13]: uh instead of what I've been seeing them wear in the past. So if it's good enough for us, it's certainly good enough for them working out in the elements, that type of thing. So it's a nicer uh overall appearance. [1:02:13, 1:02:25]: But but but I also want you to understand too that you know dry fit when you're working in the rugged conditions, you might not work. And so the reason why you might see the hard cotton versus the dry fit is [1:02:25, 1:02:25]: You know. [1:02:26, 1:02:36]: the issue of of of um longevity in on those shirts. Um that's why the material might be a little bit more tougher because they're out in the elements every day. [1:02:36, 1:02:56]: And they're wearing these uniforms back to back to back and getting them clean and come back. So you you don't want to, you know, for us, we wear it one time occasion. We don't really well, I'll speak for myself because I when the summer comes, I'm in a polo shirt. So we'll definitely look at that um in light of you know where these guys are working and how that how you know how the material would hold up. [1:02:56, 1:03:09]: That's a conversation Des just can have with the vendor to make sure that we get the best aerated type shirts, you know, and the ones that are rugged as well to the hold up with these guys' working conditions. Okay, we'll leave that up to you. And then we'll leave it. Thank you, sir. [1:03:10, 1:03:11]: Thank you. [1:03:11, 1:03:19]: All right, so motion's been made, been seconded. If there's no more other no other comments, I'd like to ask for the approval of this motion. All in favor, please indicate. [1:03:20, 1:03:25]: Okay. Um okay and Miss Barber, your vote your vote. [1:03:25, 1:03:30]: Well abstain. I for the record I don't have enough information. [1:03:31, 1:03:33]: Okay, four zero one motion pass. [1:03:33, 1:03:50]: Okay. Council could thank you, Mr. Aaron. Uh Council consideration to amend the state office of planning a budget OPM officials for the ARPA funding to Frederick Gardner as designee and Kelly Russell, administrative point of contact, presented by Mr. Gardner himself. Sir, please. [1:03:52, 1:03:53]: Already um [1:03:53, 1:04:13]: Uh May and Council, in keeping with with what we see from and the requirements under the federal guidelines for our ARPA funds, um moving forward, um, we'd love to have the the city managers, the signature and and obviously the backup is our grant administrator who will be working on a typical day-to-day basis with any grant all. [1:04:14, 1:04:15]: Um [1:04:15, 1:04:17]: And reviewing all those grants applications. So [1:04:17, 1:04:22]: Um very easy lift. Um, we're asking to make sure that uh we're the signatures moving forward. [1:04:24, 1:04:24]: Oh bad. [1:04:25, 1:04:26]: All right. Any questions, Council? [1:04:27, 1:04:29]: M Mr Mayor Potem, go ahead, please. [1:04:32, 1:04:33]: Let me get off. [1:04:38, 1:04:39]: It's still muted, sir. [1:04:40, 1:04:40]: Still muted. [1:04:43, 1:04:52]: Okay. Um not necessarily a question. I know uh uh Mrs. Russell is here. I know uh I heard [1:04:53, 1:04:56]: that she was high I I just wanted to hear her voice. [1:04:59, 1:05:01]: I just want her to say something. Yeah. [1:05:02, 1:05:03]: Hi mere pro temp [1:05:04, 1:05:08]: Good evening, Mayor Honorable Mayor Ann City County Council. [1:05:11, 1:05:11]: It ain't [1:05:12, 1:05:32]: I guess you want you to expound on something there, Ms. Russell. Well, well, let me just say this, you know, we're excited about the opportunities uh for grant opportunities. And I just wanted to sort of I'm looking for some enthusiasm, you know, to you know, so I I just wanted to sort of you to speak that's I'm being a little facetious, but uh [1:05:32, 1:05:33]: Um [1:05:33, 1:05:36]: Looking for a little enthusiasm as far as uh [1:05:37, 1:05:46]: you know, uh going forward. That's all. Oh yes, absolutely. Um, as I've mentioned in the last council meeting, I'm very excited to be on board. [1:05:47, 1:05:55]: What I've been trying to focus on is um developing our foundation to accept grants and manage grants in compliance with federal regulations. [1:05:55, 1:06:01]: And so part of that is what you have before you today, just making sure that we have all of our ducks in a row. [1:06:01, 1:06:05]: Um as we move forward so that the pertinent personnel can receive the [1:06:05, 1:06:12]: notifications and communications from the state as well as the federal government and we can be responsive in a timely fashion. [1:06:12, 1:06:13]: So [1:06:13, 1:06:18]: Yeah, I have a a slew of things before me to work on, trying to prioritize and [1:06:18, 1:06:19]: Um [1:06:19, 1:06:23]: give the best impact, you know, immediately, but strategically. [1:06:24, 1:06:28]: Yeah. Well we we know you spoke at at the last meeting, but you know, um [1:06:29, 1:06:49]: We just i i just want to be real proactive. I want you to come to us and say, hey council, hey, I got this going. Next month, council, hey, I got this going. So I'm just saying we're excited about the opportunities. And so and I'm I'm just looking forward for you to be constantly uh giving us all that good information. [1:06:49, 1:06:55]: and uh turning over all of those rocks, finding all of those funding. So that's it pretty much. [1:06:55, 1:06:57]: Trails, trails, trails. [1:06:57, 1:06:58]: Thank you. [1:06:58, 1:07:01]: Okay. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [1:07:01, 1:07:10]: Mayor, I'd like for us to go ahead and uh we have an item on on hand here. I'd like for us to go ahead and approve the amendment of the state planning and budget. Um [1:07:11, 1:07:15]: For the officials of opera funding and uh having Miss Um Russell as a point of contact. [1:07:16, 1:07:18]: Okay, is there a second to the motion? [1:07:19, 1:07:29]: My second. Ms. Kant seconds that. Okay. Any further discussion? And if not, all in favor of motion, please indicate. Okay. Unanimous decision. Fantastic. Thank you. [1:07:32, 1:07:50]: Council consideration to approve request for proposal, RFP number 201508-02, Sanitation Collection Services, Contract Renewal, Waste Industries, Atlanta LLC, GFL Environmental, presented by Mr. Aaron and Miss Miller. Is Ms. Miller online? [1:07:52, 1:08:11]: I guess uh she's not, I guess uh she's not. She's not there. Okay, so that's gonna be Mr. Aaron. I would imagine you, Mr. Wiggins, would be assisting this process. Go ahead, gentlemen, please. Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. We're coming before you tonight to renew the contract with uh GFL for the residential garbage collection for the city of Stockbridge. [1:08:14, 1:08:15]: All right, any further? [1:08:15, 1:08:19]: It anything else, sir? That's that's it? Okay, Mayor Pro Tem, you got a question, sir? [1:08:20, 1:08:20]: Well [1:08:22, 1:08:27]: This service to the city and to the community. [1:08:27, 1:08:30]: You know, I get a lot of calls. [1:08:30, 1:08:35]: And I'm I'm just a little concerned. I'm reading here and I'm looking at [1:08:35, 1:08:36]: Um [1:08:36, 1:08:40]: I I guess a a five year an automatic five year contract. [1:08:42, 1:08:45]: And I'm I'm trying to find my question. [1:08:45, 1:08:49]: I'm a little I'm a you know, I know um [1:08:50, 1:08:52]: Some of the service is great. [1:08:52, 1:08:58]: Uh but I get so much feedback and you know we talked before about the commercial aspect of it. [1:08:59, 1:09:04]: And I know, you know, we're talking about improving, we're talking about growing. [1:09:05, 1:09:10]: And I'm just a little concerned. I I just want to make sure that we are proactively [1:09:11, 1:09:13]: Improven [1:09:13, 1:09:18]: um this particular service that we provide to the community. [1:09:18, 1:09:28]: I I I get a lot of um grumblings and I just found out recently and that, you know, citizen didn't understand that um carpet [1:09:29, 1:09:33]: Is not uh an item that they actually pick up. [1:09:33, 1:09:37]: So, you know, it's just a lot of disinformation. [1:09:38, 1:09:40]: Uh when it comes to the um [1:09:41, 1:09:45]: uh the the cutting of the tree limbs [1:09:45, 1:09:55]: And I I don't know how we can fix it. I know when I spoke to Mrs. Isaac a number of times, he shared this information all the time. And I don't know exactly um [1:09:56, 1:09:58]: What we can do, Mr. Aaron. [1:09:58, 1:10:03]: uh to try to fix some of that. You know, I'm okay with extending this, but I just think we have to [1:10:04, 1:10:17]: look at how we can improve. I think we got to have some conversations to see how we can uh improve or tweak some of the things that we're doing because you know this service is so vital. [1:10:18, 1:10:25]: uh to the communities and i don't want to take it too light i want us just to come in and say okay we're gonna you know do another contract without [1:10:25, 1:10:33]: Looking at the possibilities of how we can improve the services and having this conversation with GFL to make sure that. [1:10:33, 1:10:35]: Um we're sort of [1:10:35, 1:10:38]: Going forward, you know, to try to improve. [1:10:39, 1:10:42]: Uh and all of that and I alluded to [1:10:42, 1:10:45]: um you know the the the commercial end of it so [1:10:45, 1:10:46]: Uh [1:10:47, 1:10:50]: Mr. Aaron, does that is that anything you just want to say on that end? [1:10:51, 1:11:11]: Uh yes, I've had that conversation with with Ms. Miller about the commercial and and it involves a lot more detail than just saying we're going to get the commercial because there's uh concerns of where you're gonna take it. Would you take it to the transfer station? You probably get a different rate versus taking it directly to the landfill. And in reference to [1:11:11, 1:11:31]: Carpet and yard waste, those things are pretty much industry-wide from city to city. Reason why they don't take carpet because carpet can't go into regular landfill. It has to go into construction and demolition landfill. And also carpet is it's a big issue for equipment to get caught up in the in the tractors and [1:11:31, 1:11:41]: things like that. So that's why they don't take carpet because it has to go to that construction and demolition landfill because the state will not allow them to put it in a regular [1:11:41, 1:11:43]: Санітарі муніципол [1:11:43, 1:11:56]: landfill. And as far as the tree branches and limbs, the dimensions they're cut into, that's pretty much industry standard throughout the United States. It's not some arbitrary number they came up with, but that's pretty much [1:11:57, 1:12:02]: everywhere you go. And we understand some of the issues we've had with GFL. And one of the things we did [1:12:03, 1:12:08]: get implemented where the residents can go online and schedule buck and yard waste pickup. [1:12:08, 1:12:28]: And I just think right now, during the times I I live in Macon and we've switched providers. We had an issue with our provider not being picking up services and things like that. We're into our fourth, third month with the new provider and we still haven't hiccups. The old provider hasn't come and picked up their cart. So now they're asking people. [1:12:28, 1:12:39]: you bring your carts in and turn them in. So it's been a big headache for us. We realize there's been some hiccups with COVID related and also with some other issues, but I think we're working through those. [1:12:39, 1:12:59]: And if commercial is an item that the city wants to pursue, then we can pursue that as well. If that means issuing out a new RFP, we'll do that as well. But I think we need to do our due diligence to see what uh providing commercial services to our customers is gonna entail, because some people might get upset because now you only got one. [1:12:59, 1:13:05]: one provider, so I can't shop for the best rate. I'm locked into whatever that provider offers. So [1:13:06, 1:13:26]: Staff is ready to do whatever city is requiring us to do. If they want to pursue commercial, then we'll address that issue as well. Well, let me let me just piggyback off of something you said. And I know Mr. Isaac has attempted to inform citizens that they do have to call in for buck to be picked up. [1:13:26, 1:13:26]: Yeah. [1:13:26, 1:13:39]: Everyone, I guess when it comes to going online, that may be a problem. And from what I see, now I don't see all neighborhood, but I see stuff just piling up on the street. [1:13:39, 1:13:42]: And some households just assume [1:13:42, 1:13:45]: that they're going to just come by and pick it up. [1:13:45, 1:13:47]: How can we improve? [1:13:48, 1:13:49]: Uh [1:13:49, 1:13:51]: That process of [1:13:51, 1:13:53]: Uh notifying [1:13:54, 1:14:05]: that you know uh uh uh a homeowner has uh uh buck to be picked up how can we approve point of order mayor what what what what's what's wrong what's the point of order [1:14:05, 1:14:11]: The the the point of art is we're not talking about the process of GFAL. That's not what's on the agenda today. [1:14:12, 1:14:16]: Tonight is we're gonna renew their contract that we already have current. [1:14:16, 1:14:23]: This is not the the procedures that GFL goes through is not on the agenda, how we're going to modify. [1:14:24, 1:14:27]: their services is aren't we going to continue their services? [1:14:28, 1:14:48]: Mr. Mayor, if we want to add a discussion, hold on. We want to add a discussion on modification of services. That's a totally different conversation. Okay. I appreciate that. Are we going to continue the services or not? That's what's on the agenda. I appreciate that. Mr. Mayor. Mayor Protell. Go ahead, Mayor Protell. I heard you uh council. [1:14:47, 1:14:52]: Mira Proten, go ahead, please. How can you approve [1:14:52, 1:14:53]: Of a contract. [1:14:54, 1:14:59]: That's about service without discussing service. [1:15:00, 1:15:03]: I I don't get that. So are we talking about service? [1:15:05, 1:15:08]: Go ahead, sir. Go ahead with the contract that provides service to the community. [1:15:10, 1:15:21]: Isn't that what we're talking about? Yeah, yeah, sir. Go ahead. What's your uh conversation, please? So so I I just want us all to speak to that. Um, and and there's a concern. See this whole [1:15:21, 1:15:27]: business about point of order this and that i'm about making sure that the citizens [1:15:27, 1:15:34]: Get the services that they need. So when these items come on the agenda and we're talking about service. [1:15:35, 1:15:36]: Approving a contract. [1:15:37, 1:15:39]: Да провай сервіс. [1:15:40, 1:15:44]: to the community, we have to do our due diligence. [1:15:44, 1:15:50]: To make sure before we get into just giving someone a contract. [1:15:50, 1:15:53]: So the service is up to par. [1:15:55, 1:15:56]: That's the point I'm trying to make. [1:15:58, 1:16:00]: Anything anything else, sir? [1:16:02, 1:16:02]: Okay. [1:16:02, 1:16:05]: Um Mr. Gardner, please go ahead. [1:16:05, 1:16:18]: Yes. Uh Mayor Pro Cham, um you're exactly right. One one of the things we can do, um, part of this process with GFL is how do we provide for educational opportunities for residents to know what [1:16:19, 1:16:33]: you know, what the services are, how how do those services break down? That's an educational platform that I think we need to look at to discuss. And, you know, not just everybody on the on the on the internet, because we know that all residents aren't on the internet. [1:16:34, 1:16:41]: But being able to provide um flyers, pamphlets, um, door knockers, or even um [1:16:41, 1:16:44]: Uh the magnets that we you know used to put on your [1:16:44, 1:16:46]: on on your on your refrigerator. [1:16:47, 1:17:07]: Um, and then you know, especially when we have when you guys are having town hall meetings, you know, add add something like that to the agenda where we can start talking to citizens about you know what the services are, what the requirements are. Um, and it's just an educational issue. And I think we we're well within our purview to be able to to to [1:17:07, 1:17:27]: effectuate a good educational program in conjunction with with GFL to um to make that happen. So I think that's what you're saying is important. I mean we had to do the same thing um with our sanitation department and at my last jurisdiction. And a lot of that was education. And when we go out in the community, we talk exactly about those [1:17:27, 1:17:40]: and hand out hot hand out flyers and door knockers and all of that stuff for folks to be able to have are they ready when they need to understand, you know, if they have a bulk pickup, what that issue is, if they have limbs, how those limbs should be configured. [1:17:40, 1:17:50]: um and you know why we don't you know we don't pick up carpet and and what the reasons are and how do how do you treat carpet. Um so definitely that's just an educational platform. [1:17:50, 1:17:52]: And I think that's something we can do. [1:17:53, 1:17:58]: Uh m Mr. Biden, I really appreciate that. But in closing, let me just say this for for this council. [1:18:00, 1:18:02]: We're about providing [1:18:02, 1:18:05]: The best services we can. [1:18:06, 1:18:07]: Uh to our citizen. [1:18:08, 1:18:12]: Any future residents that's coming into our city. [1:18:12, 1:18:19]: We have to be about providing those services. I'm not here to sign a contract yet to say I sign a contract. [1:18:20, 1:18:38]: I'm about trying to deliver the best services that we can as a municipality. Well, Mr. Gardner, I appreciate that. And I'm going to close with that. Um, but I just hope that we can sort of get with them and how can we make this a little easier for citizens to be able to um [1:18:39, 1:18:53]: you know, uh reach GFL and you know, get these things picked up, whether there's a phone number or what have you. But I I appreciate your comment, sir. Mayor, I yield back. Thank you. No problem. Ms. Hold on, please. Ms. Barber, you had your hand up earlier. [1:18:55, 1:18:57]: Thank you, Mayor. Um [1:18:57, 1:18:59]: Mr. Gartner, Mr. Wiggins. [1:19:00, 1:19:03]: This contract expired December 31st. [1:19:03, 1:19:04]: Twenty twenty one. [1:19:07, 1:19:08]: That's a question. [1:19:09, 1:19:13]: I'm reading the agenda request form and that's what it suggests. [1:19:16, 1:19:21]: Barber, I was informed by uh Ms. Miller that actually [1:19:22, 1:19:24]: The council and one of the city attorneys. [1:19:25, 1:19:30]: uh discuss this item and the expiration date is actually April the eleventh. [1:19:30, 1:19:33]: 2022. That was the information that was provided to me. [1:19:36, 1:19:37]: Right. [1:19:37, 1:19:41]: That might have been an attempt to try to get everything on the budget caliber. [1:19:43, 1:19:45]: But um it it is it expires in April. [1:19:50, 1:19:53]: Mr Washington, some well, I see that new attorney. [1:19:54, 1:20:01]: the city manager or finance manager. You didn't sign or staff recommendation form. So [1:20:02, 1:20:03]: I don't know what to think of it. [1:20:04, 1:20:08]: So Jeremy deals with the matters of procurement. Well go ahead, Ms. Connor. [1:20:10, 1:20:17]: I too share the same concerns as Mayor Pro Tin Thomas. I've gotten quite a few calls from residents. [1:20:17, 1:20:17]: Uh [1:20:18, 1:20:20]: Asking about the process to pick up [1:20:20, 1:20:21]: Lambs. [1:20:21, 1:20:22]: And other [1:20:23, 1:20:24]: Household. [1:20:25, 1:20:26]: Items and debris. [1:20:26, 1:20:30]: So we need to be able to express that here. Now. [1:20:30, 1:20:33]: If this contract truly is to expire. [1:20:33, 1:20:34]: In April [1:20:35, 1:20:37]: This has been a five year contract. [1:20:38, 1:20:39]: For mi [1:20:40, 1:20:41]: I do not support. [1:20:41, 1:20:45]: extending long-term contracts like this. [1:20:46, 1:20:49]: We would be extending it for another five years. [1:20:49, 1:20:50]: That means [1:20:51, 1:20:52]: This particular company [1:20:52, 1:20:54]: Will have a contract. [1:20:54, 1:20:56]: For ten years. [1:20:56, 1:20:57]: I do not agree with. [1:20:58, 1:20:59]: Extending that. [1:21:00, 1:21:00]: Um [1:21:01, 1:21:03]: But I still would like to know. [1:21:03, 1:21:06]: When does this contract truly expire? [1:21:06, 1:21:08]: I think we've discussed this particular contract. [1:21:09, 1:21:10]: At least. [1:21:10, 1:21:11]: Twice. [1:21:11, 1:21:16]: um that I'm aware of and I wanna know what the actual expiration date of it is. [1:21:17, 1:21:22]: And if in fact this contract was executed in twenty sixteen. [1:21:22, 1:21:25]: It expires April of this year. [1:21:27, 1:21:29]: That's what, six years? [1:21:30, 1:21:31]: I don't support extending it. [1:21:32, 1:21:34]: However, I know that it is services. [1:21:34, 1:21:35]: that we do need. [1:21:35, 1:21:39]: But I really want staff to um consider. [1:21:40, 1:21:43]: prior to these contracts nearing the expiration. [1:21:44, 1:21:46]: To consider [1:21:46, 1:21:48]: Perhaps rebidding. [1:21:48, 1:21:52]: So that we can compare cost and services. [1:21:52, 1:21:53]: But to just [1:21:54, 1:21:58]: Bring it and drop it in my lap just as it's expiring. You give me no choice. [1:21:58, 1:22:01]: Well, I have a choice and I'm gonna abstain. [1:22:02, 1:22:12]: Okay, Mr. Washington, uh you were called on earlier. I don't know know if you got a chance to finish your comment in reference to the inquiry about whether or not you had an opportunity to review this or not. [1:22:12, 1:22:19]: Yeah, this is the one that we've been going back and forth on that had been brought a couple of times. And Jeremy had Jeremy had reviewed it. [1:22:19, 1:22:26]: And the date the dates were wrong on it, but he's not available to come to the meeting. But this was a contract that had come before council before. [1:22:27, 1:22:31]: I think it was toward the end of the year and that's what I was trying to reach out to him about. [1:22:31, 1:22:33]: about this exact contract. [1:22:34, 1:22:44]: Okay. All right. Uh hopefully he'll get a chance to respond to you and maybe you can update us. Uh stand by Mr. Blount. Mr. Gardner, you had your hand up, sir. Go ahead, please. [1:22:44, 1:22:58]: Yes, and and stand by stand by go ahead, Mr. Buddha. Um council members, when when you do get complaints about the level of service or the quality of the service, you know, please let us know because we we need to share that information. [1:22:58, 1:23:18]: obviously with with with the with the contractor um and allow for us to actually keep a record and a score. That way when we get to the point of looking at renewing the service, we can say, hey, we've had X amount of complaints versus this vendor and the need for us to move forward and have some [1:23:18, 1:23:35]: something that's quantitative. Um and I and and I go back to what I was saying with my pro tem, you know. Somehow you you you muted Mr. Gardner, you muted. I don't know how that happened. There you go. Yeah um it's not showing on my side man. It's my you're good now we hear you. Oh okay. Um [1:23:35, 1:23:36]: As I was saying, you know. [1:23:37, 1:23:40]: We have to keep when you guys get complaints, let us know. [1:23:41, 1:23:55]: That way we can keep track of the complaints, the amount of complaints. So when we have to renew, we'll have those to review and make sure to be making an informed decision based on the number of data complaints we're getting. Also. [1:23:55, 1:23:56]: Um [1:23:56, 1:23:58]: I think once again, um [1:23:58, 1:24:18]: us providing educational opportunities, um, handouts and flies for our residents. So when they don't, when they do call you guys, we can immediately get that person's address and be able to to to ferret over the information to them. But once again, getting out into the community and telling folks, hey, this is what the service is and this is how the service is rendered to you. [1:24:18, 1:24:22]: Um that's an important part. Education is an important part. [1:24:22, 1:24:38]: Um and especially when we're getting if we get new residents come in, that is part of their whole billing situation with us, they get a phone, they get a a handout um that explains the service and the level of service to them. So that's something we can do and work with GFL. If GFL is who we go with. [1:24:38, 1:24:40]: Um, to make that happen. [1:24:41, 1:24:42]: What do you guys? [1:24:42, 1:24:44]: Oh go ahead. Mr. Aaron, you gonna say something, sir? [1:24:45, 1:25:05]: Uh just one thing, all new residents, new customers, they do get a mail out from public works stating what's collected, what's not collected, also their collection day if they have any questions or concerns. Because I take multiple calls daily, Ms. Norrisworthy as well, scheduling bulk and yard waste pickup. So if they can't get in touch. [1:25:04, 1:25:10]: with GFL city staff is here to take calls and put in those requests for residents as well. [1:25:11, 1:25:12]: Thank you. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [1:25:14, 1:25:17]: Yeah, let me let me clarify something really quick here. [1:25:18, 1:25:22]: I agree with uh um uh Mr. Thomas. [1:25:22, 1:25:33]: That we do need to let the citizens know we're concerned about their complaints and their their their uh complaints and their concerns when it comes to um their sanitation pickups. [1:25:34, 1:25:37]: But one of the things we have to also realize [1:25:37, 1:25:41]: On this call, on this Zoom, not one person is on here from GFL. [1:25:41, 1:25:54]: These are the times when we go behind closed doors and we sit down with our city manager and the powers to be, and we sit here and tell them the concerns of the citizens. And we come out here and tell the citizens, your concerns have been heard, and this is what we're going to do. [1:25:56, 1:25:58]: I agree with Councilwoman Barber. [1:25:58, 1:26:10]: Councilwoman Barber has continually asked for things early, has continually asked that we get contracts. We don't have another council meeting to April 14th. This contract expires. [1:26:11, 1:26:12]: uh eprent [1:26:13, 1:26:17]: So we have to make a decision tonight for the citizens for sanitation service. [1:26:18, 1:26:19]: Right now tonight. [1:26:20, 1:26:31]: And one of the things that concerns me about this whole process that we're continuing to go through and we see this paradigm of things operating a certain way, we've got to change the way we're operating. [1:26:31, 1:26:33]: There's a part of this contract that I read. [1:26:34, 1:26:42]: This contract was for five years, and Councilwoman Barber, I don't know if you know this, but it's it it's it's for renewal yearly after that. [1:26:42, 1:26:46]: If I'm wrong, Mr. Dacius, please correct me. If I'm wrong, Mr. Wiggins, please correct me. [1:26:46, 1:26:48]: So we're not renewing tonight. [1:26:49, 1:27:05]: for five years. In my understanding, this it renews after the five years when uh from the 16th, uh I think um 2016 when we first came on, they came on for five years, 2021 would have been five years, and then it renews a year yearly after that. [1:27:06, 1:27:23]: But we've got to get information early. We got to get information early because of any contract ever come to us at the last minute that we can't sit the powers to be down and discuss the issues of the citizens. That's a disservice to every council member on here, every elected official that comes through this city. [1:27:23, 1:27:38]: We should always get an opportunity to sit down with the powers to be and make a uh a a decision right here whether we're going to continue those services or remove ourselves from it. But that should be done because we can't be in order in doing that. [1:27:38, 1:27:41]: If staff is not in order in bringing us the information. [1:27:41, 1:27:45]: Once again, we have a council meeting on fair on April fourteenth. [1:27:46, 1:27:48]: Бо ви хавтиме тонай. [1:27:48, 1:27:50]: Whether we're gonna continue with this services. [1:27:51, 1:27:53]: For the citizens to have sanitation pickup. [1:27:54, 1:27:59]: And I'm not gonna sit here and vote against sanitation pickup because our back is against the wall. [1:28:00, 1:28:01]: This what we have to prove tonight. [1:28:02, 1:28:04]: All right, Miss Gan, go ahead, please. [1:28:06, 1:28:07]: Well, Councilman Black just [1:28:08, 1:28:14]: Pretty much summed up exactly some of the same thing same concerns I have. I think we all get concerns about [1:28:14, 1:28:25]: about our city manager, uh Mr. Gardner, that um it's more education. I hope that we have this [1:28:25, 1:28:44]: on our the front page of our website honestly um i think that is something that we should put continue to put in our newsletters it should always be in there the schedule of of pickup for sanitation um so that we can have constant communication um to our constituents and the [1:28:44, 1:28:47]: Although this is doesn't have to do with residential. [1:28:47, 1:28:54]: We also had discussed um contracting whoever we have for sanitation, which is currently GFL. [1:28:54, 1:28:59]: to also have one person for commercial pickup. [1:28:59, 1:29:19]: Um, this has been ongoing. It's been going on for years. Um, I think that it would resolve a lot of problems. There have been over near the Walmart shopping center at one point, there was trash everywhere. Um, they have various pickups from different sanitation departments with our commercial portion, our businesses. And I think if we had one, we were [1:29:19, 1:29:29]: supposed to give them like a a six months notice that they were gonna they everyone was to switch over to the same company sanitation department that we use. [1:29:30, 1:29:44]: Um, I think it would show consistency. I think it would be professional, and I think it's something that we need to look into to hold one individual accountable for. Um, that's just my two cents. I know that's totally different from what we're talking about on our contract. [1:29:45, 1:30:00]: I agree. I think that we should have a right to discuss with our with whoever we're renewing the contracts. I think it maybe we should have a policy where if we're renewing a contract, those people need to be on our council meetings, scheduled for that day. [1:30:00, 1:30:20]: Um, because we have questions. We want to let them know we may be renewing your contract or you know, and we know that Georgia's at will and we can terminate the contract early without penalties, maybe in some of those clauses. But what we want them to know is we want them also to know our concerns. So they should be here present so that we can ask those. [1:30:20, 1:30:27]: particular questions and also address those concerns. So I think we need to make that part of our policy and get those people here on those meeting dates. [1:30:28, 1:30:32]: That's it. Thank you for that. Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [1:30:34, 1:30:42]: Yes. So the last time this came to us in December, there were some discussions about the expiration date of this. [1:30:42, 1:30:42]: Um [1:30:43, 1:30:43]: B [1:30:44, 1:30:46]: City attorney confirmed. [1:30:46, 1:30:48]: that the expiration of this [1:30:48, 1:30:51]: was to end in December of the [1:30:51, 1:30:53]: December of twenty twenty one. [1:30:54, 1:31:00]: Looking at the very first page of the Solid Waste Collection Transportation Disposal Agreement. [1:31:00, 1:31:04]: Under term, it says this agreement shall be binding. [1:31:05, 1:31:11]: on all parties for a period of five years and eight months, beginning May first of twenty sixteen. [1:31:12, 1:31:15]: And ending december thirty first of twenty twenty one. [1:31:16, 1:31:21]: provided that consistent with the multi-year contractual provisions. [1:31:21, 1:31:27]: This contract shall be automatically renewed on January one of each year. [1:31:27, 1:31:34]: unless either party provides written notice to the other of its intentions not to renew this agreement. [1:31:34, 1:31:35]: So [1:31:35, 1:31:45]: I know that it will renew for an additional, the initial term will automatically extend for five consecutive additional one year periods. [1:31:45, 1:31:46]: But this contract. [1:31:46, 1:31:50]: ended December thirty first of twenty twenty one. [1:31:51, 1:31:54]: is just now coming to us, I guess, to ratify it. [1:31:55, 1:31:55]: I don't know. [1:31:56, 1:31:57]: But I do not like the fact. [1:31:57, 1:32:00]: that is being dropped in our lap right now. [1:32:00, 1:32:02]: With a critical service like this. [1:32:03, 1:32:04]: And we're forced to sign it. [1:32:05, 1:32:06]: Again. [1:32:06, 1:32:08]: For these services. [1:32:08, 1:32:12]: That we have um awarded contracts back in. [1:32:12, 1:32:20]: 2016, 2017, and we have not put them back out to bid. I don't agree with extending them. [1:32:20, 1:32:23]: I'd much rather see them go back out to bed, but. [1:32:24, 1:32:26]: Because we're in this situation, we don't have time. [1:32:27, 1:32:28]: to bid it out. [1:32:28, 1:32:29]: But we do. [1:32:29, 1:32:31]: We should be planning. [1:32:31, 1:32:37]: you don't mind Mr. Gardner, we should be planning to bid this back out sometime this year. [1:32:37, 1:32:38]: Before [1:32:39, 1:32:40]: The renewal. [1:32:40, 1:32:44]: if that's what the council approves. [1:32:44, 1:32:49]: so that we can compare cost and services. Um, that's all. [1:32:50, 1:32:51]: Mr. Gardner, go ahead, please. [1:32:52, 1:33:02]: I I'm wholeheartedly agree. Yes. The the there's the the initial five-year term, as you stated, Councilmember Barber, from from 16 to 21, and then it has five one year. [1:33:02, 1:33:22]: So obviously this will be the the the set the renewal for the one year. Um and it has been, this will be six years worth of information and data that we've gathered on this vendor. So yes, this is something that we can look to bid out and have have something out on the streets somewhere in the area of October. [1:33:22, 1:33:23]: Um [1:33:23, 1:33:27]: No October, November and then be able to have s you know, if they win then fine if [1:33:27, 1:33:47]: Um, we'll bring a new contract and hopefully better pricing. But to see exactly yes, what's out there? Is it a better pricing available? Um, as well as um are they provide is there another vendor that is providing an enhanced quality service to their customers, i.e., they'll do that too for us. So I agree this is something we need to look at. [1:33:47, 1:33:53]: at um and we'll be we'll be looking into it to make sure that that happens. [1:33:54, 1:33:59]: I think yes, we can try to look to see if we can get a better buying file, but um [1:33:59, 1:34:01]: Obviously after five or six years. [1:34:03, 1:34:09]: That is a lot of okay, thank you. Hold on, Ms. Washington. You are unmuted, sir. Did you find out anything from uh your cohort? [1:34:10, 1:34:11]: Um big yeah. [1:34:12, 1:34:13]: Not yet. [1:34:13, 1:34:16]: Okay. Um uh councilman Alexander, go ahead, please. [1:34:16, 1:34:19]: Yeah, so Mr. Gardner, what is the recommendation? [1:34:20, 1:34:33]: So obviously we're we're we're um we're pretty much a couple of weeks away from from the ending of the term. I would I would recommend that we extend for one more year and direct staff to put this out to bed. [1:34:33, 1:34:34]: Um [1:34:35, 1:34:38]: Pro the contract give notice that we will be bidding it back out. [1:34:38, 1:34:40]: Um, I think we have to give ninety day notice. [1:34:40, 1:34:47]: Um and that'll be later in the year that we bid this out. And if GFL comes back with the best pricing and [1:34:47, 1:34:54]: We'll look at that in refer in reference to their level of service that we've given over the over the last six years. Um, if it's another vendor, then we'll bring another vendor. [1:34:56, 1:35:07]: Okay, so the recommendation is for a one-year renewal, uh, and then to put it back out for uh, you know, to see what uh what the mark market is. [1:35:07, 1:35:08]: Dicturing. [1:35:08, 1:35:13]: uh at this point and but in the meantime I still want to make sure that we follow through [1:35:13, 1:35:22]: With the recommendations of the information going out. I like that idea, especially for seniors, of the magnet on the refrigerator. [1:35:22, 1:35:30]: where they just is there i and and folks will use it. So I certainly appreciate that. And uh [1:35:31, 1:35:34]: I will make a motion to go ahead and approve that recommendation. [1:35:34, 1:35:47]: uh by uh the city manager uh to renew for one year and then to put this out for bid with the conditions that we have the upgraded information uh in this one year renewal. [1:35:48, 1:35:48]: A second. [1:35:49, 1:35:57]: I'm Ms. Gantt second that uh Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. Well, I I just wanted to just say that for me, uh, service dictate approval. [1:35:57, 1:36:03]: Uh we we talking money, but I think in this as well, we have to talk about. [1:36:04, 1:36:11]: Uh and and Mr. Aaron and uh Mr. Gardner, we're gonna have to be able to look at some of these things to see how we can improve. [1:36:12, 1:36:23]: uh the services. So I think with with all of that, we got to pinpoint how the services can be improved. So I think that has to go along with [1:36:23, 1:36:43]: um putting it back out for bid and those that's gonna come in and bid on it. We have to sort of be able to speak to uh some of the deficiencies and some of the service. But I'm okay with, you know, um the the one year, but we have to sort of talk about and and I'm okay with you and Mr. Aaron sort of doing that. [1:36:43, 1:36:58]: But you have to know what the concerns are. We have to know what level of service are right now. We always have to improve our service. We can't live on our past laurels. We have to always be about improving things. [1:37:00, 1:37:06]: Yeah, I just stop it up. Please, Mr. Blount, let us finish his comments, please. [1:37:07, 1:37:11]: No, I'm sorry. I wouldn't talk to Mr. Thomas. Forgive me. I wouldn't talk to Mr. Thomas. Forgive me. [1:37:12, 1:37:15]: So my my my point, Mr. Gunn and Mr. Aaron. [1:37:16, 1:37:20]: Uh I'm okay with GFL. They do a pretty good job. [1:37:20, 1:37:40]: But I don't care who the contractor is, we have to always be about approval. So, Mr. Gardner, Mr. Aaron, I'm okay with the one year, but I think you all got to have that conversation to see how we can improve. And that's all I just want to get over to this council. We have to understand we have to be about improvement of services. [1:37:40, 1:37:41]: Thank you, Mayor. Number year. [1:37:42, 1:37:46]: Okay, so the motion's been made, been seconded. So all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:37:49, 1:37:50]: Okay. I [1:37:50, 1:37:53]: Okay. Okay. Miss Gar uh Miss uh Barber. [1:37:54, 1:37:59]: I'll abstain. Um 40. Okay. 401. [1:38:00, 1:38:03]: For the right sorry, did we get a vote from uh Councilman Block? [1:38:03, 1:38:06]: Yes, he's he said I. He's four four zero four zero one. [1:38:07, 1:38:08]: For the biker. [1:38:08, 1:38:13]: I'm abstaining because it looks as though this contract has already expired. [1:38:14, 1:38:16]: Secondly, I wanted to um just mention [1:38:17, 1:38:21]: This contract, our current contract, requires a ninety-day [1:38:21, 1:38:22]: Notice. [1:38:24, 1:38:24]: Before. [1:38:25, 1:38:25]: Um [1:38:26, 1:38:28]: You change to another contractor. [1:38:29, 1:38:29]: However [1:38:30, 1:38:32]: Mr. Garden, you mentioned about um [1:38:32, 1:38:34]: We're building this. [1:38:34, 1:38:39]: So I would suggest that you bring back a new contract or recommendation to award. [1:38:40, 1:38:43]: ninety days prior to December thirty first. [1:38:45, 1:38:51]: Well and I I I think I did mention Councilman Biden that we we also we have to give them the ninety day notice. [1:38:52, 1:39:03]: um of the fact that we will be terminating. Um and I will work with the city attorney to make sure that that date is December 31st versus Octo um April. [1:39:03, 1:39:08]: Um because the one year renewal should if it's a true one year renewal. [1:39:08, 1:39:13]: It should go from April eleventh, twenty twenty two to April eleventh, twenty twenty three. [1:39:13, 1:39:27]: Which means we need to give ourselves that that window 90 day to notify them. But that would also be probably the prior period of time when we start the bid process out for folks to start bidding on it. Cause obviously, as you know, put it out there for 45 days plus. [1:39:27, 1:39:35]: Then staff review. That's probably another another week or two. So we'll be in concert with them, have an event to come on board when they're done. [1:39:37, 1:39:38]: You're welcome. [1:39:39, 1:39:59]: All right, so the motion passed. And uh now what's next is uh my particular comments. What I want to say tonight is simply this that COVID-19 and pandemic is still among us. So, folks, that you can still get uh tested at uh Red Hawk um field uh located 143 Henry Parkway, Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. [1:39:59, 1:40:19]: 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. In the Department of Health, you can call their on uh Henry Parkway as well. You can call them at 470-661-0005. You can get tested there as well as you can get your vaccinations there, Pfizer or Moderma. You can walk in for that. And if you want to do that at Department of Health. [1:40:19, 1:40:28]: Health, that would be Monday through Friday, 9 a.m. to 11:30 or 1 p.m. to 2 30. Okay. And so you can go there and do that as well. [1:40:28, 1:40:48]: But here recently, and actually council and staff and all the directors just recently received a message from our city manager in reference to per CD CDC guidelines that Henry County itself is experiencing low, low rates here, low rates hospitalization, low rates in reference to the people being affected by the pandemic. [1:40:48, 1:41:08]: So the CT, CDC is uh recommending in a sense that uh that uh that actually there's no requirement now for indoor mask wearing at indoor facilities. You you you can do it if you'd like to do it, but you don't have to. It's not mandatory. I think by this last message that the uh city manager said [1:41:08, 1:41:28]: Sent out to the staff and council in reference to city hall and our city buildings. The city staff doesn't necessarily have to wear a mask unless you really want to. And citizens that are coming into to do business with us don't necessarily have to wear a mask either, unless you honestly want to at this point. So that's uh that's a good sign, I would say, to you. And hopefully [1:41:28, 1:41:44]: We'll continue to move on with this process as the numbers continue to get lower and we beat this pandemic. Also, what's happening on Friday, which is April, April 1st, April Fool's Day, but we will have our first concert of 2022 season. [1:41:44, 1:42:01]: John Parde, a country star, will be in concert along with a couple other of his uh cohorts there. And you can still get tickets, folks, if you go to uh stopbridgeamp.com, find out what's available, and uh come on out and listen to some country music this this Friday evening. [1:42:01, 1:42:06]: Now also if you go to Stockbridge AMP dot com, you'll see the the actual um [1:42:06, 1:42:17]: actual tickets or the uh uh the actual concerts that we have tickets for on sale now for several different concerts as well. So take a look at that and and and take your pick of what you want to come and see for this concert season. [1:42:18, 1:42:19]: Um now [1:42:19, 1:42:39]: And what what uh what I understand that we would do also for the concert, uh the we're not going to ask anybody for a vaccination card or a booster card. It's not going to be a requirement at this time to ask you for any type of um of uh any type of uh COVID test, negative test within the last 48 hours. Uh you can [1:42:39, 1:42:42]: still wear a mask if you come to conference if you'd like to do that. [1:42:42, 1:42:46]: It's not mandatory at this time for this outdoor uh uh venue. [1:42:46, 1:42:57]: And uh it was my understanding is that there will be medical staff on to give tests or vaccinations if people want them, is my understanding. If you want them, it's not a requirement, but if you want them. [1:42:57, 1:42:58]: You can do that. [1:42:59, 1:43:03]: this aspect. So look forward to a wonderful uh concert s uh uh season. [1:43:04, 1:43:08]: Which we kick up April first and I think the last concert would be sometime in uh late October. [1:43:08, 1:43:11]: So it's fantastic in that aspect as well. [1:43:11, 1:43:14]: Earlier uh this evening and when we opened up [1:43:14, 1:43:34]: Mayor Potem gave the prayer and he and he talked about, indicated that myself, along with him and Councilman Alexander, along with several members of staff, were at a conference earlier today. And that was what you call the actual South Metro Development Outlook Conference. It's an economic conference in rest in reference to the South Metro area. [1:43:34, 1:43:54]: Area and what kind of good things are happening in the south part of the Atlanta metro area. And this has, and we're growing and we're making some good movements here. So I want you to know that during that conference, we had a lot of interaction, a lot of networking of the staff and the council members made. And this has been going on for 20 years, along with the collaborative firm. [1:43:54, 1:44:04]: which is a the partner of that is uh Mr. Michael Hightower. And so for 20 years he's done this and done an excellent job. So it was it was great, great conference in this aspect. I will tell you that [1:44:04, 1:44:24]: I as as a representative, as the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, representing Stockbridge at the time, had an opportunity to give a highlight of this of a South Metro city, give a highlight of Stockbridge. And I want to let you know the type of topic, topics, and things that I covered. And without besides uh indicating, I'm not gonna make it very long on this aspect, but besides talking about the fact [1:44:24, 1:44:44]: That uh we're over 100 years old in corporation. Of course, we didn't celebrate like we really wanted to in 2020 due to the pandemic. But I always have to mention and educate people in reference to Stockbridge being the ancestral home of the King family. You always find people that don't even know that. So you want to educate them enough to know of our historical value and our link to the king family and the civil. [1:44:44, 1:45:04]: rights movement in this aspect as well. Without a doubt, I talked about the state of the art amphitheater and what's coming to the amphitheater. In fact that it's it's a great the first amphitheater in Henry County and one of the greatest looking facilities amphitheaters in the South Metro area. I want to emphasize that the fact that the season's going to start and invited everybody of course to check out the uh check out the uh actual uh concerts [1:45:04, 1:45:24]: Online and buy a ticket and come on down and enjoy everything in this aspect as well. Um, have some conversations. Uh I talked about last year's structure for that, and wanted to talk about the course of the um police department coming online and mentioned uh Chief Tremors uh is our police chief and the fact that him and his staff are hiring uh [1:45:24, 1:45:44]: Plenty of good qualified police officers, going to be a diverse police force, and they will implement uh uh the police force on one July, something that the city has not had in 45 years. It's a good thing that we're doing this, and also had a slide that's showing a brand new spanking-looking police vehicles and the fact that we're going to spend three million dollars to renovate the [1:45:44, 1:46:04]: The old police station, stated art police station in this aspect, something that we totally differ definitely need. Talked talked briefly about um Bridget Adjodico and about last Friday, week go last week go Friday, I guess it is now, um, about our groundbreaking with our general at uh at Jodico, uh the$50 million. [1:46:04, 1:46:17]: Um these luxury apartment that Sterling Group is going to do with those luxury apartments and the fact that we have retail on the first floor of 306 of those apartments, one and two three bedroom apartments. And also the fact that that's just the beginning. [1:46:18, 1:46:38]: of the of the actual additional groundbreakings that we'll have at Bridge of Jodico, because we're going to eventually have hotels, restaurants, all types of eateries, homes, condos, town homes, and homes that have attached and detached garages, as well as a path, a network of a path where a pathway network there for people to commute [1:46:38, 1:46:45]: to walk on and and move around the facility as is is as well. And um I continued on with um [1:46:46, 1:47:06]: In reference to the Cultural Arts Center, the fact that we have that at the far west side of the uh of our downtown area, and the fact that that's planning to be a theater, a ballroom, and other types of cultural type events, art shows and things of this nature that we want to bring to this. And the fact that the the actual um groundbreaking probably won't happen for roughly a year now, late late quarter. [1:47:06, 1:47:19]: quarter of this year or first quarter of of next year is what's intended for that to happen. And actually I didn't get a chance to spend on everything like I wanted to because I I had a short period of time. So I was trying to get a lot in a whole a big period of time there. [1:47:19, 1:47:39]: And I mentioned about T-SPLOST. Thanks, you citizens, for voting for T Splots in November passing. That means the collections, what I've been told, the collection for T-SPLOST will start on April 1st, five years. Over a five-year period, the city should get an estimated of$30 million. And what we're going to do, that$30 million, is going to we're going to look at curb, gutter, widening street. [1:47:39, 1:47:59]: Streets, repaving streets and putting in some of the cross markings, crossing, crossings in actual communities, especially the underserved communities that haven't had this before. Look at the path, connecting communities with pathways, pathways there itself, connecting the communities to the downtown area so you can walk and move about. [1:47:59, 1:48:19]: And also connected or have a pathway connected to Panoma Mountain and eventually to uh the Silva Comet Trail. So all this is what's planned in that T Sploss and the Council is going to have to prioritize the funding and things we want to do with that$30 million on the next five years. Also mentioned about expanding the bridge that goes across the [1:48:19, 1:48:37]: the uh rebel track downtown ml king senior bridge we want to put a pedestrian walkway on that bridge to expand it so people can walk from east to west side safely and and be safe with that process as they move about from the from the amphitheater to our downtown areas as we look to revitalize our downtown areas well. [1:48:38, 1:48:58]: I also talked about the STEM. The Henry County Board of Education approved to put the STEM school right there at the old Henry site, old Stockbridge High School site, two blocks from down from our city hall, right in our downtown area. That's a great thing, even though it's it it helps revitalize our downtown area to have the skin sta. [1:48:58, 1:49:07]: STEM school right there. So that was also mentioned to them. And actually on the 14th of April, uh four o'clock, uh, council and its citizens, there will be a special event to unveiling [1:49:08, 1:49:12]: of this particular project that they're that they're going to have and I'm I would imagine the project will [1:49:12, 1:49:32]: Actually open up, uh officially open up probably in a good year and a half from now after you have to clear out the land and build build that STEM school. So it'll probably a good year and I probably won't uh have a grand opening in probably uh into 24, probably 2024. But they'll be able to tighten that up at the activity on April 14th. And the last thing I covered dealt with the conceptual plan in a downtown. [1:49:32, 1:49:45]: area as we want to revitalize it and and the shops and and things that we want to do there in this aspect as well. And um so I was about to highlight so they're trying to go through that pretty somewhat quickly uh in this aspect, but I'll tell you what. [1:49:46, 1:50:06]: What I heard from individuals that approached me after this particular briefing, they didn't realize a lot of things are going on at Stockbridge. And what they know where they they got an idea that we're moving forward. They also understand that and and say that that's great things that you all doing. And that's thank that's good to the council and us moving everything forward. That's good for the citizens. And we have a listen here for you citizens. [1:50:06, 1:50:26]: on what you want and the staff doing a heavy lifting as we continue to move everything forward. So we have a bright future. We're going to dub, you know, brush off this this rough diamond and make it shine. And we'll continue to shine. And so on that note um I'll end my particular comments and I'll start reading uh the actual um events here that we have going on. Now I'm [1:50:26, 1:50:43]: I'm gonna mention these events and these things are all gonna basically mention about the primarily about Zoom meetings, but they may very well change now that things are starting to open up a little bit. So that's up to the actual committee or the board whether or not they wanna have something in person, but I'll but most of them say that they're gonna be virtual and I'll read that this time. [1:50:43, 1:50:52]: Main Street Advisory Board meeting, second Friday of each month, nine o'clock by way of Zoom. And uh said the revised date for this is going to be April 15th. [1:50:52, 1:50:58]: City Council meeting the second Monday of each month. And that's by way of Zune on April eleventh. Okay. [1:51:00, 1:51:13]: April 11th. All right. So we'll see whether or not we have that by Zoom or in person. We'll find we'll have to discuss that to see manager council with how you want to handle that. New council meeting, 5 30, second Wednesday of each month in the Levi meeting room. [1:51:13, 1:51:15]: City Hall April thirteenth. [1:51:15, 1:51:29]: The Downtown Development Authority meeting is uh six o'clock by way of Zoom, third Tuesday of each month, and uh is April 19th. The U Council of Irish committee meeting is the third Tuesday of each month. The Patrick Henry meeting room, and that's April 19th. [1:51:30, 1:51:36]: Uh the planning commission meeting is a four Thursday at 630 by way of Zoom, which is April 28th. [1:51:38, 1:51:42]: see here and our let's see one second here [1:51:44, 1:51:47]: And then I have here the uh of course the uh [1:51:48, 1:51:49]: Uh [1:51:49, 1:52:09]: I have here a note in reference to uh a continuous salute to veterans, uh, four pictures of veterans, including the name, branch, and rank of years of service to Mayor Pro Tem Thomas, as we want to present and keep keep those veterans and close to us in this aspect and give them the set of due respect and honor. And uh [1:52:09, 1:52:17]: And you can communicate with uh Ms. Pearson and it's a Z Pearson at C Stockbridge dash G A dot Gov [1:52:17, 1:52:27]: And then our once I already mentioned about our first concert of the season is Friday, April 1st, uh this Friday, John Parday, which is a country singer, and the show begins at eight. [1:52:27, 1:52:31]: And it's COVID 19, once again, restrictions have been lifted. [1:52:31, 1:52:36]: And I have here Councilman Alexander is hosting a quarterly town hall meeting April fourteenth at seven PM. [1:52:37, 1:52:57]: And right. I'm sorry, that's been postponed. Postponed. Okay. Thank you very much, sir. That's been postponed. And then there's a there's a city sponsored job fair uh Thursday, April 21st, uh at uh 10 a.m. to 1 p.m. in the Amplitude Theater parking lot, with the city is as having it was with Goodwill with the city, along with a mega sci-fi uh uh fraternity. [1:52:57, 1:53:08]: And Delta Sigma Theta sorority. And they're also going to be ex offenders, part of the ex offender job fair as well, and try to get folks back into the into the job market. And um [1:53:09, 1:53:20]: And then of course I had meet the mayor and voice your concerns and uh concerns and issues and questions you may have. That'll be Monday, April 25th at 10 a.m. to noon. And we're going to do that in person. [1:53:20, 1:53:36]: And uh so you have to schedule an appointment with Zenovia Pearson at 770-389-7900, extension 248. And on that note, that's all the uh the announcements I have. And I'm it's only my assumption there is no executive session for this evening. [1:53:36, 1:53:39]: Okay, so on that note, Council, I need a motion to end our meeting. [1:53:40, 1:53:40]: So move. [1:53:41, 1:53:46]: Ms. Brant's uh the second by Alexander and Gantt put that most on favor, please indicate. [1:53:47, 1:53:50]: All right. And it looks like you now see season. Goodbye, everybody. [1:53:50, 1:53:53]: Uh and have a good evening. God bless you all. [1:53:53, 1:53:55]: Good night. All right. Have a good evening. Good night.

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[0:01:05, 0:01:06]: Um [0:01:07, 0:01:11]: You hear uh uh roll call, call order or um [0:01:13, 0:01:15]: You're called to order. [0:01:15, 0:01:16]: Well, six thirty three. [0:01:18, 0:01:19]: Invocation. [0:01:24, 0:01:31]: Uh Mr. Dumas, do an invocation pause? Sure, I will. Let us bow our heads, please. [0:01:33, 0:01:45]: God, we come before you tonight with bowed heads and normal hearts. God, we humble ourselves before you at this time to conduct the business of the citizens of the city of Stockbridge. [0:01:46, 0:01:56]: We ask God that you will guide our hearts and inspire our thoughts that we will do what is right and that's proper in your sight. [0:01:56, 0:02:00]: Yes, we pray in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. [0:02:01, 0:02:01]: Yeah. [0:02:02, 0:02:04]: Well, let's do the Pledge of Allegiance. Ready? [0:02:06, 0:02:22]: Uh-huh. Well ready for two flags. Two flags of America. Two republic and two. One nation under God. Undergard, indivisible. Liquidity, justice, is brought. [0:02:23, 0:02:25]: Ms. Logan, a roll call? [0:02:25, 0:02:26]: Yes. [0:02:26, 0:02:27]: Ask yeah Adola. [0:02:27, 0:02:28]: Present. [0:02:29, 0:02:30]: Kathleen Nelson. [0:02:32, 0:02:32]: Is it? [0:02:34, 0:02:34]: Um [0:02:35, 0:02:35]: Okay. [0:02:36, 0:02:37]: Uh, it's Stanley Dunis. [0:02:37, 0:02:38]: Present. [0:02:38, 0:02:39]: Harold Thibodeau? [0:02:41, 0:02:42]: David Planton. [0:02:43, 0:02:43]: Present. [0:02:44, 0:02:45]: Rodney Horns. [0:02:45, 0:02:46]: Present. [0:02:46, 0:02:48]: So chairman, we have quorum. [0:02:49, 0:02:50]: Thank you. [0:02:51, 0:02:52]: Excuse me. [0:02:53, 0:02:56]: I have a motion to adopt the agenda for the day. [0:02:59, 0:03:02]: I make a motion to adopt today's agenda. [0:03:03, 0:03:04]: I will second it. [0:03:04, 0:03:06]: This is David Planthron. [0:03:07, 0:03:08]: Okay, it's been moved uh [0:03:09, 0:03:12]: Ms. Nelson and then second by Mr. Planchon. [0:03:12, 0:03:15]: All those in favor, let it be known by the sign of aye. [0:03:15, 0:03:19]: Hi thu look away [0:03:19, 0:03:24]: Hearing none, uh the agenda for today is adopted. [0:03:25, 0:03:28]: Wanna review the uh minutes from January twentieth. [0:03:30, 0:03:31]: And uh [0:03:37, 0:03:38]: Note any changes. [0:03:40, 0:03:42]: Or minutes. [0:04:02, 0:04:05]: Chairman, is there a motion on the floor for the minutes? [0:04:07, 0:04:12]: I make a motion to approve the minutes from the January twentieth meeting. [0:04:13, 0:04:14]: Yeah. [0:04:15, 0:04:16]: We'll second that, Mr. Horns. [0:04:17, 0:04:18]: Yes. [0:04:18, 0:04:19]: All right. [0:04:20, 0:04:24]: It's been moved the second all over the table that it's be known by the sign of I. [0:04:25, 0:04:33]: Aye. Those opposed, as have it. The uh January 20th minutes are approved and adopted. [0:04:35, 0:04:38]: Um yeah one day. [0:04:44, 0:04:49]: So Chairman, the next item would be an introduction of new staff. [0:04:49, 0:04:51]: I want it to [0:04:51, 0:05:11]: I think as you know, since I've been director here, I've been making a point to try and build and bolster our team so that we are equipped with the uh knowledge and experience in order to welcome new business into the city and to handle all the operations that are needed to. [0:05:11, 0:05:31]: Have good customer service and quality responses to our customers. So I wanted to introduce our chief planner, Ryan Anderson, who started with us this week. I'll just briefly say that he comes with quite a bit of experience in land use and zoning. [0:05:31, 0:05:51]: He's worked in Douglasville, City of South Fulton, and a few, just to name a few. And it's coincidentally has actually worked previously with some of the staff members that are already in community development at some point or another throughout his career. So I wanted to give him the opportunity to say. [0:05:51, 0:05:59]: A few things about himself and welcome him from the Planning Commission and the Community Development Department. [0:06:00, 0:06:03]: Good evening. Uh my name is Ryan Emerson. Uh [0:06:05, 0:06:08]: Get some push feedback while I'm turning it down. [0:06:08, 0:06:28]: Uh my name is Brian Anderson. Uh I'm from originally from Jackson, Mississippi. Um I've been in the Atlanta area for uh 22 years now. Um I'm excited to be working for the city of Stockbridge and I'm looking forward to meeting you guys in person one day. And um I think I can be a big assistance, be of a bigger [0:06:28, 0:06:41]: assistance to you guys and helping um the city move forward with some new and exciting projects. And I'd like to reiterate that I'm very happy to be here and I'll look forward to meeting you guys again in the future. [0:06:42, 0:06:43]: Oh welcome aboard, Mr. [0:06:44, 0:06:45]: Anderson? [0:06:45, 0:06:48]: Yeah, I look forward to seeing you as well. Thank you, sir. [0:06:49, 0:06:50]: Thank you. All right. [0:06:51, 0:06:52]: Thanks, Sharon. [0:07:01, 0:07:02]: Any other comments? [0:07:03, 0:07:04]: No, sir, that's it for me. [0:07:05, 0:07:08]: Okay, what about uh the next item is the uh public hearing? [0:07:09, 0:07:11]: Uh if you say you and Miss Logan. [0:07:13, 0:07:16]: Yes, uh Linda view call the Adam and uh present. [0:07:19, 0:07:19]: Okay. [0:07:20, 0:07:22]: Variance case number V R [0:07:22, 0:07:24]: Two oh two two oh one. [0:07:25, 0:07:27]: For seven two seven Beth Page Drive. [0:07:28, 0:07:34]: Nitesh Patel, the applicant and owner of a residential lot at seven twenty-seven Beth Page Drive. [0:07:34, 0:07:39]: Which is parcel ID number zero five one F zero one two two. [0:07:39, 0:07:41]: Zero zero zero zero. [0:07:41, 0:07:46]: Request a variance to reduce the property's rear yard setback from the required seventy-five feet. [0:07:47, 0:07:49]: For a golf course, a budding lot to fifty feet. [0:07:50, 0:07:53]: To allow for the construction of a new single family detached home. [0:07:54, 0:07:57]: The property is located in landlot seventeen of district six. [0:07:57, 0:07:59]: Within the stock rich city limits. [0:07:59, 0:08:02]: It comprises lot fourteen of block W. [0:08:02, 0:08:05]: Within unit eleven of the Eagles Landing subdivision. [0:08:07, 0:08:10]: I have a PowerPoint presentation prepared. [0:08:10, 0:08:12]: Which uh going to share with you. [0:08:13, 0:08:15]: Uh let's see. [0:08:16, 0:08:17]: Zacking. [0:08:18, 0:08:24]: Get a l I get a lot of pop ups on my screen, some ads, unfortunately. So you might you might see some of them. [0:08:25, 0:08:26]: Um [0:08:27, 0:08:27]: Okay. [0:08:30, 0:08:30]: Well [0:08:31, 0:08:33]: Not sure. Say share. [0:08:34, 0:08:35]: Uh [0:08:39, 0:08:39]: Okay. [0:08:41, 0:08:42]: Oh, there it is. Can you see it? [0:08:43, 0:08:46]: Yes, we can see your screen. Oh, okay, excellent. [0:08:46, 0:08:48]: So this is a cover page uh [0:08:49, 0:08:50]: titles of project and [0:08:51, 0:08:51]: This [0:08:51, 0:08:55]: This case will be going to city council meeting after this on April the eleventh. [0:08:57, 0:09:02]: The uh property is located in the Eagles Landing subdivision, and this is just a portion of it. Um [0:09:03, 0:09:05]: This is Beth Page Drive. [0:09:05, 0:09:08]: Here, this curved street, the subject properties right here, seven. [0:09:09, 0:09:09]: Twenty seven. [0:09:10, 0:09:11]: За гоф корс. [0:09:11, 0:09:16]: behind it that's part of Eagles Landing Country Club. And by the way, E Bethpage Drive forms [0:09:16, 0:09:17]: boundary between [0:09:17, 0:09:20]: Stockbridge city limits and Henry County. [0:09:20, 0:09:23]: Um the street behind it is is Cog Hill. [0:09:24, 0:09:27]: And I'll talk about two other properties here in a few minutes. [0:09:28, 0:09:29]: Oh. [0:09:29, 0:09:32]: It's a close up view of the subject property. It is vacant. [0:09:33, 0:09:36]: Um, you could see a couple of other houses uh there on the street. [0:09:37, 0:09:39]: Uh we posted um [0:09:39, 0:09:42]: signs selling signs on the property on March first. [0:09:43, 0:09:43]: Um [0:09:43, 0:09:46]: Here is the view uh from the east. [0:09:46, 0:09:47]: And it's a [0:09:47, 0:09:50]: vacant property here and you can see the other houses there on the street. [0:09:51, 0:09:53]: And then from the other direction [0:09:53, 0:09:56]: Again, here's the subject property and then you can see. [0:09:56, 0:10:00]: Ha a few lots, vacant lots in between and then other [0:10:00, 0:10:01]: Houses further down. [0:10:05, 0:10:07]: So these are some facts about the property. [0:10:07, 0:10:11]: Uh uh the application. Uh Mr. Nitesh Patel's a property owner and [0:10:12, 0:10:15]: Hazel Suparawala is an agent and as well as the builder. [0:10:16, 0:10:21]: Um, I've identified the property already. It is on PD plan development, vacant, level and wooded. [0:10:22, 0:10:22]: Um [0:10:23, 0:10:25]: Uh, the applicant again requested [0:10:26, 0:10:30]: set back to fifty feet, but he later revised his request. [0:10:30, 0:10:36]: to sixty-five feet. So then that would only be ten foot difference from the required seventy five feet. [0:10:36, 0:10:37]: Um [0:10:37, 0:10:44]: I see what I've been not covered. Uh surrounding leak land use, other existing homes on the lot on the street, vacant lots, as you saw. [0:10:45, 0:10:47]: Um most of these other houses have [0:10:48, 0:10:49]: The seventy five feet and one or two. [0:10:50, 0:10:50]: Year to happen. [0:10:50, 0:10:52]: Um sixty two to sixty five feet. [0:10:53, 0:10:55]: Okay. And [0:10:55, 0:10:56]: See, I have a [0:10:57, 0:11:01]: Another slide which shows a close up of that. [0:11:02, 0:11:02]: Let's see. [0:11:03, 0:11:04]: Uh [0:11:07, 0:11:08]: Mm-hmm. [0:11:09, 0:11:11]: Oh okay. So here again is a subject property. [0:11:12, 0:11:15]: Now if you can see here some of these other houses on the street. [0:11:15, 0:11:17]: You see the roofs of'em, of course. [0:11:17, 0:11:18]: And um [0:11:19, 0:11:21]: You can see how far back they are from there. [0:11:22, 0:11:23]: From the rear yard property line. [0:11:24, 0:11:25]: And um [0:11:26, 0:11:27]: I measured on [0:11:28, 0:11:29]: uh on the computer and [0:11:30, 0:11:30]: Wasn't it [0:11:31, 0:11:33]: precise but very close and they have [0:11:34, 0:11:36]: Seventy five, except for maybe this one. [0:11:37, 0:11:37]: Oh. [0:11:39, 0:11:41]: Okay, let's move on here. [0:11:42, 0:11:43]: Now the requirement for [0:11:44, 0:11:50]: The rear yard setback of 75 feet. This is where it comes from. I don't expect you to be able to read this. [0:11:50, 0:11:56]: But this is shows this is a cover page of the final approved plat for equals landing subdivision. [0:11:56, 0:11:59]: Unit l eleven, that's one of the sections. [0:11:59, 0:12:01]: This was done in two thousand five. [0:12:01, 0:12:02]: It shows um [0:12:03, 0:12:06]: shows the streets and the lots that are covered and [0:12:07, 0:12:11]: You can't see this, but this circled area here gives the required setbacks. [0:12:12, 0:12:12]: Oh. [0:12:13, 0:12:15]: So that's where the requirement comes from. [0:12:16, 0:12:18]: Uh this is the applicant's um [0:12:18, 0:12:20]: Um original site plan. [0:12:20, 0:12:24]: Uh proposed house, John and Green. Now wait a minute, how did this get moved lower? [0:12:25, 0:12:25]: Stop. [0:12:25, 0:12:26]: Okay. [0:12:26, 0:12:27]: Um [0:12:28, 0:12:33]: And so the issue is the distance really from from front to back. [0:12:33, 0:12:36]: Um that's the issue and you can see here the [0:12:36, 0:12:41]: The the front y required front yard setback is forty feet, and that is shown in this dashed line here. [0:12:42, 0:12:42]: Um [0:12:42, 0:12:46]: So even if the the um applicant were to [0:12:46, 0:12:49]: Move a house further closer to the street. [0:12:49, 0:12:52]: there would still be an encroachment at the rear. [0:12:53, 0:12:54]: And this is because of [0:12:55, 0:12:57]: The location of a garage here. [0:12:57, 0:12:58]: Um [0:12:58, 0:13:02]: There's a requirement in Eagles Landing uh subdivision, the [0:13:02, 0:13:05]: Property Owners Association has a policy which says [0:13:06, 0:13:08]: That they must uh property owners must. [0:13:09, 0:13:11]: Not have garages facing the street. [0:13:11, 0:13:14]: So therefore the applicant has to show the driveway. [0:13:14, 0:13:17]: The coming in from the side and the entry to the garage to the side. [0:13:18, 0:13:20]: And what that means is that the [0:13:20, 0:13:23]: a garage being turned sideways then makes it longer. [0:13:24, 0:13:25]: And um [0:13:25, 0:13:28]: longer distance front front to back. Here is the [0:13:29, 0:13:31]: Policy this is a page out of there. [0:13:32, 0:13:33]: Асоціації с [0:13:34, 0:13:35]: Manual. [0:13:35, 0:13:38]: So here this says garages here. [0:13:38, 0:13:40]: Two car garages are required. [0:13:40, 0:13:44]: And a garage must face either side lot line or rear yard line. [0:13:44, 0:13:47]: And in no case may it face the front property line. [0:13:48, 0:13:49]: They must be screened. [0:13:49, 0:13:53]: And um it it says it could have golf cart garage as well. [0:13:54, 0:13:58]: So this would be a f a three car garage plus a golf cart garage. [0:13:59, 0:14:00]: Uh huh. [0:14:01, 0:14:04]: Some zoning history of the property and um [0:14:04, 0:14:05]: No I'm [0:14:06, 0:14:10]: First in the area, we had um back in two thousand eleven. [0:14:11, 0:14:16]: Uh another property is not shown on the map, but it's closer to the entrance of the country club's main street. [0:14:16, 0:14:17]: Um [0:14:17, 0:14:23]: was granted a rear yard uh setback reduction, but that was for a swimming pool and not a house. [0:14:23, 0:14:28]: Then we have on three oh six Broadmoor Way, which is two streets further to the north. [0:14:29, 0:14:30]: Um [0:14:31, 0:14:35]: This is Cog Hill, the next street to the north, which it could not uh fit on here. [0:14:36, 0:14:37]: But anyway, um [0:14:39, 0:14:47]: So that one was is a large house. That's a large house been built on two lots, but that is outside of the city. So that was the county who granted that. [0:14:48, 0:14:51]: Uh now we have 845 Cog Hill. [0:14:51, 0:14:52]: The next street to the north. [0:14:53, 0:14:56]: Um this was granted a variance approval. [0:14:56, 0:14:57]: Uh after [0:14:58, 0:14:58]: Um [0:14:59, 0:15:04]: Eagles Landing Property Association Association Association approved it. The uh county had recommended an [0:15:04, 0:15:05]: The county [0:15:06, 0:15:08]: The variants case originally came to the county. [0:15:09, 0:15:12]: And then they recommend denial, but then since the [0:15:12, 0:15:16]: property owners will say she shouldn't approve it, then the city recommended approval. [0:15:16, 0:15:17]: However, this [0:15:18, 0:15:20]: Property still remains vacant. [0:15:20, 0:15:22]: And this was three years ago, so it's not been built. [0:15:23, 0:15:25]: And now most recently. [0:15:26, 0:15:28]: Go back to this other slide again. [0:15:30, 0:15:32]: Oh so this was an eight four. [0:15:32, 0:15:32]: Uh [0:15:33, 0:15:33]: I look. [0:15:33, 0:15:35]: That was the 845 right here. [0:15:36, 0:15:38]: Now the 842 here. [0:15:38, 0:15:40]: This is the most recent one. [0:15:40, 0:15:42]: City approved this. [0:15:42, 0:15:43]: But it was [0:15:44, 0:15:44]: Um [0:15:45, 0:15:46]: Administrative [0:15:46, 0:15:48]: waiver because [0:15:48, 0:15:50]: The something about the topography. [0:15:51, 0:15:53]: So it's not not quite the same. [0:15:53, 0:15:57]: uh situation. So I was just looking at any instances of [0:15:58, 0:16:01]: where a reduction in rear yard setback was granted. [0:16:01, 0:16:06]: So that's what I was able to find and I had the I had planners at Henry County also. [0:16:06, 0:16:07]: Do some of this research. [0:16:08, 0:16:09]: Uh, for me. [0:16:11, 0:16:13]: Now uh variants I see yeah. [0:16:14, 0:16:16]: Trying to see if there's a way I can [0:16:16, 0:16:17]: Move this off the side. [0:16:18, 0:16:19]: Okay, so now [0:16:19, 0:16:20]: The [0:16:21, 0:16:26]: Zoning uh a code requires a list different criteria, seven criteria, in fact. [0:16:27, 0:16:32]: uh for gr the granting of a variance and all seven criteria must be met. [0:16:33, 0:16:34]: Um now this [0:16:34, 0:16:35]: Application came in. [0:16:36, 0:16:38]: Uh before uh [0:16:38, 0:16:41]: March fourteenth, so therefore it still complies with [0:16:42, 0:16:42]: Or [0:16:43, 0:16:50]: our most recent uh zoning code, not the one that was just adopted by city council two weeks ago on March fourteenth. [0:16:51, 0:16:54]: But anyway, um these are the criteria and I've [0:16:54, 0:16:56]: This is paraphrased. This is not exact words. [0:16:57, 0:17:02]: But uh it's a criterion number one, extraordinary and exceptional conditions must exist on the property. [0:17:03, 0:17:07]: compared to other properties in a district regarding its size, shape, or topography. [0:17:07, 0:17:10]: Well we've said there are no such uh extra uh [0:17:10, 0:17:11]: Conditions. [0:17:12, 0:17:15]: However, due to the garage policy, the property owners association [0:17:16, 0:17:21]: Uh it may be difficult to fit a home onto the lot without protruding into the rear yard setback, as I said. [0:17:22, 0:17:24]: Criterion number two. [0:17:24, 0:17:28]: A literal interpretation of zoning code would deprive the applicant of rights. [0:17:28, 0:17:29]: Which other [0:17:29, 0:17:31]: owners of properties enjoy. [0:17:31, 0:17:32]: Um [0:17:32, 0:17:33]: We're saying [0:17:33, 0:17:38]: He would not be devi deprived of any such rights. He could still build a home on the property. [0:17:39, 0:17:41]: But not be able to might not be able to build a [0:17:41, 0:17:44]: Free car garage or golf cart garage, which [0:17:44, 0:17:45]: Other homes. [0:17:45, 0:17:47]: In this uh district have. [0:17:47, 0:17:49]: Criterion number three. Um [0:17:50, 0:17:57]: Granting the applicant this variance would not confer upon him any special privileges which other property owners in this district do enjoy. [0:17:58, 0:17:59]: I I do not enjoy. [0:17:59, 0:18:00]: Uh [0:18:00, 0:18:01]: We're saying that um [0:18:02, 0:18:05]: granting him the variance for the original request of fifty feet. [0:18:06, 0:18:08]: Would give him a special pri privilege. [0:18:08, 0:18:11]: compared to other property owners on Beck Page Drive. [0:18:11, 0:18:14]: Um however his revised request [0:18:14, 0:18:16]: Reduce the rear yard set back to fifty feet. [0:18:17, 0:18:20]: Six to sixty five B would be more reasonable. [0:18:20, 0:18:21]: Since another property [0:18:22, 0:18:24]: On the street appears to have a setback of sixty two weeks. [0:18:25, 0:18:26]: Um [0:18:26, 0:18:27]: Yeah, the rest of the [0:18:27, 0:18:28]: Um [0:18:29, 0:18:29]: Okay. [0:18:29, 0:18:30]: On the wrong page here. [0:18:30, 0:18:32]: Okay, the rest of the criteria here. [0:18:34, 0:18:36]: I don't know why I keep getting this um [0:18:37, 0:18:38]: Okay, criteria number four. [0:18:39, 0:18:42]: The variance must be consistent with the purposes intent of the zoning code. [0:18:43, 0:18:46]: Musky be compatible with neighboring properties and must serve. [0:18:46, 0:18:47]: The public welfare. [0:18:48, 0:18:52]: Uh we're saying that um reduction in rear yard setback just in general. [0:18:52, 0:18:56]: is a legitimate reason for someone to request the variance. [0:18:56, 0:19:01]: Um, however, the original request to reduce it to only fifty feet would not be compatible. [0:19:01, 0:19:02]: With the neighboring properties. [0:19:03, 0:19:06]: Since most of the rear yard setbacks are seventy five feet. [0:19:06, 0:19:08]: Thus this would not serve the public welfare. [0:19:08, 0:19:11]: However, yet the applicant's revised request [0:19:11, 0:19:15]: Reduction of sixty five sixty five feet would be more reasonable. [0:19:15, 0:19:16]: As I said. [0:19:17, 0:19:18]: Criteria number five. [0:19:18, 0:19:23]: Um, extraordinary circumstances must not be the result of the applicant's actions. [0:19:24, 0:19:26]: We're saying that these circumstances are due. [0:19:26, 0:19:30]: To the applicant's wish to build a large home with multiple garages. [0:19:30, 0:19:32]: And uh A and B. [0:19:32, 0:19:34]: Due to the property owner's garage policy. [0:19:35, 0:19:35]: Uh [0:19:36, 0:19:40]: And we're saying, however, it's reasonable to expect large homes with multiple garages to exist. [0:19:41, 0:19:43]: within a country club community. [0:19:44, 0:19:46]: Criteria number six. [0:19:46, 0:19:47]: The [0:19:47, 0:19:52]: Request must be the minimum that is needed to allow the applicant to have a legal use of the land building or structures. [0:19:53, 0:19:53]: Um [0:19:53, 0:19:58]: We're saying the original request for reduction to only fifty feet is not the minimum relief. [0:19:59, 0:20:04]: But uh and he he could build a home though with just the s with sixty five foot yard setback. [0:20:05, 0:20:07]: And finally, crit criterion number seven. [0:20:08, 0:20:12]: Requested variants must not allow a type of use that is prohibited in this district. [0:20:12, 0:20:16]: Um apparance is not required to build a home. [0:20:16, 0:20:18]: However it's a reasonable to expect large homes. [0:20:19, 0:20:23]: uh with multiple garages to be built with within the country club community, as I said before. [0:20:24, 0:20:29]: So we have two conclusions. First, applicant has demonstrated that a variant [0:20:29, 0:20:32]: Covariance is needed in order to meet the regulations of the [0:20:32, 0:20:34]: Eagles Landing Property Owners Association. [0:20:35, 0:20:39]: And even if home were to be moved forward to the front yard property line, it would still encroach. [0:20:39, 0:20:41]: into the rave yard set back. [0:20:41, 0:20:42]: Um [0:20:42, 0:20:47]: Now rear entry is allowed, but this would require a longer driveway. [0:20:48, 0:20:50]: Which would mean a sharper turning radius, more pavement. [0:20:51, 0:20:54]: and little usable remaining land for backyard. [0:20:54, 0:20:56]: And second clue conclusion. [0:20:57, 0:20:59]: Applicant requ requested as [0:20:59, 0:21:00]: Agreed to [0:21:00, 0:21:07]: A revised variance request with a rear setback of 65 feet instead of the original request of 50 feet. [0:21:08, 0:21:11]: And this seems reasonable with compared to the other properties on the street. [0:21:12, 0:21:15]: And finally, uh recommendations. [0:21:15, 0:21:21]: Number one, first we recommend demi denial of applicant's original request to reduce the rear yard setback to fifty feet. [0:21:21, 0:21:23]: But we recommend approval. [0:21:23, 0:21:28]: Of the revised request to reduce the rear yard set back to sixty five feet with the following [0:21:28, 0:21:29]: Or [0:21:29, 0:21:30]: Zoning conditions. [0:21:31, 0:21:31]: Uh [0:21:32, 0:21:32]: First. [0:21:32, 0:21:36]: property shall be developed only in accordance with the site plan, which is similar [0:21:37, 0:21:39]: to the one that was submitted with the application. [0:21:39, 0:21:45]: Except that it shall be revised to show a rear yard setback of sixty five feet. Now in my staff report. [0:21:45, 0:21:46]: I have the full [0:21:47, 0:21:48]: Language of this uh [0:21:49, 0:21:50]: Of this [0:21:50, 0:21:51]: zoning condition right here. [0:21:52, 0:21:54]: Uh should I read that, Miss Johnson? [0:21:55, 0:21:56]: For the record. [0:21:57, 0:21:58]: Yeah, yeah. [0:21:58, 0:21:59]: I should. [0:21:59, 0:22:00]: Okay. [0:22:01, 0:22:02]: Let me see. [0:22:03, 0:22:04]: I should have that. [0:22:06, 0:22:06]: Here. [0:22:07, 0:22:08]: Okay. [0:22:09, 0:22:10]: That um [0:22:10, 0:22:12]: First zoning uh [0:22:12, 0:22:14]: Condition is is as [0:22:14, 0:22:16]: I'll read it as follows. [0:22:17, 0:22:20]: The property shall be developed only in accordance with a revised site plan. [0:22:21, 0:22:26]: Which is similar to the submitted one, which was prepared by Sibley Miller Surveying and Planning Incorporated. [0:22:27, 0:22:27]: On [0:22:28, 0:22:29]: ten, twenty nine, twenty one. [0:22:30, 0:22:33]: As job number L two oh two eleven forty seven. [0:22:34, 0:22:38]: And which was received on February seventh, twenty twenty two. [0:22:38, 0:22:42]: Which shows that the rear yard setback will be no greater than sixty five feet. [0:22:43, 0:22:45]: Said site plan may be conceptual only. [0:22:45, 0:22:49]: And it must meet or exceed the requirements of the current zoning code. [0:22:49, 0:22:50]: And these conditions [0:22:51, 0:22:54]: prior to the approval of a land disturbance permit. [0:22:54, 0:22:58]: If these recommended zoning conditions cause the approved site plan to be [0:22:58, 0:22:59]: Substantially different. [0:23:00, 0:23:04]: The applicant shall be required to complete the concept review procedure. [0:23:04, 0:23:07]: prior to applying for a land disturbance permit. [0:23:07, 0:23:10]: Unless it is otherwise noted herein. [0:23:10, 0:23:12]: Compliance with all conditions shall [0:23:13, 0:23:16]: That should say, shall be in place prior to the issuance of the first [0:23:17, 0:23:18]: Certificate of occupancy. [0:23:20, 0:23:20]: Okay. [0:23:21, 0:23:22]: So that was the first zoning condition. [0:23:23, 0:23:27]: Uh second one is the rear yard setback shall be no less than sixty-five feet. [0:23:28, 0:23:30]: Which shall be measured from the rear yard property line. [0:23:31, 0:23:32]: To the nearest point. [0:23:32, 0:23:35]: Of the proposed home, which is the pro principal structure. [0:23:36, 0:23:39]: Uh third one is the property shall be developed in accordance with [0:23:39, 0:23:43]: With all other stipulations of the Eagles Landing property owners. [0:23:43, 0:23:44]: Association. [0:23:45, 0:23:46]: And finally [0:23:46, 0:23:50]: The fourth zoning condition the property shall be developed in accordance with all other [0:23:51, 0:23:56]: stipulations of the of the approved plat for the Eagles Landing Subdivision Unit 11. [0:23:56, 0:23:58]: Are there any questions? [0:24:00, 0:24:01]: None that I have. [0:24:04, 0:24:05]: Anyone have any questions? [0:24:07, 0:24:09]: None for me, Mr. Chairman. [0:24:09, 0:24:11]: No, sir. No questions. [0:24:11, 0:24:21]: Mr. Chairman, I do uh have a c a question. All right, Mr Dumas. The the agenda as I recall it. [0:24:22, 0:24:24]: It's asking us to vote. [0:24:26, 0:24:27]: On the there, yes. [0:24:28, 0:24:30]: For a fifty foot setback. [0:24:32, 0:24:47]: And I understand from listening and reading the correspondence that the there has been a revised request submitted that allows for a sixty-five foot setback, which does not appear on the agenda. [0:24:48, 0:24:51]: And I'm I'm a little confused as to what are we gonna be voting on. [0:24:53, 0:24:56]: Are we voting on the original or the revised? [0:24:57, 0:25:02]: I believe we're voting on a revived because there's been a compromise. [0:25:02, 0:25:10]: That's not what it says on the agenda though. That's that's that's my only concern. The the agenda was prepared in shortly after. [0:25:11, 0:25:13]: The applicant submit his application and then he [0:25:14, 0:25:16]: Submitted um revised request later. [0:25:20, 0:25:22]: We'll see if I can pull that pull up the letter that [0:25:22, 0:25:24]: He submitted to us. [0:25:25, 0:25:29]: And uh Mr. Dunis, if I may, while while Linda's pulling that up. [0:25:29, 0:25:49]: Um you're correct. The original request was to have a um 75 to 50 foot reduction, 75 feet to 50 feet. Um working with the applicant, um they had determined that they can [0:25:49, 0:25:50]: Mm. [0:25:50, 0:26:06]: bring the, you know, change the the parameters of the lot for the building in order to have ask for a lesser variance than the uh 15 feet that they are originally asking for in reduction. Now they're asking only for 10 feet. [0:26:07, 0:26:10]: I understand that. I my only concern [0:26:13, 0:26:25]: And this is just procedural, I I I imagine the the the agenda doesn't reflect what we and we just voted to approve the agenda. It's not reflective of what we actually getting ready to do. [0:26:25, 0:26:30]: But this was this is what was advertised in the newspaper. So we we can't change that. [0:26:31, 0:26:33]: So with that. [0:26:34, 0:26:38]: You all are making a decision based on the original request. [0:26:38, 0:26:41]: and to include the information that [0:26:41, 0:26:49]: what the applicant understands to be a hardship and to be the minimum variance he can ask for to build this home. [0:26:50, 0:26:56]: is what the uh staff is stating we would recommend approval for. [0:26:58, 0:27:00]: And here is the revised letter. [0:27:05, 0:27:09]: You want me to read that? Does that clear up clear up your um question, Mr. Dumas? [0:27:11, 0:27:16]: It it it does it it it does I I I guess you know. [0:27:16, 0:27:29]: Procedurally, I'm just not I'm a little uncomfortable with it not being, I mean, if if the revised request is what we're going to be taking action on, it seems to me that should have been put on the agenda. [0:27:31, 0:27:51]: Understood, however, the original request was for 75 to 50 feet. Uh, because this is a public hearing, the applicant you can't allow the applicant time to present his case in the matter um for any clarification and ask um him any questions and then open it up for. [0:27:51, 0:27:55]: discussion and then subsequently the public hearing and a vote. [0:27:56, 0:28:00]: And we actually have had this situation before with other cases. [0:28:00, 0:28:02]: Last year the Brandon Road subdivision. [0:28:02, 0:28:04]: Had a similar situation. [0:28:05, 0:28:05]: Which uh um [0:28:06, 0:28:07]: Developer revises request. [0:28:08, 0:28:10]: Upon uh staff recommendation. [0:28:12, 0:28:14]: This is Dave Planchon, Mr. Chairman. [0:28:15, 0:28:16]: Um Go ahead, Mr. Flash. [0:28:17, 0:28:20]: Does the item number on the agenda [0:28:20, 0:28:21]: Change. [0:28:22, 0:28:28]: Because we received a revised plan or does it maintain that same item number? [0:28:28, 0:28:30]: To be really long. [0:28:31, 0:28:34]: I believe it maintained the same item number, just an amendment to that uh [0:28:35, 0:28:37]: particular application. Now I read in the letters [0:28:38, 0:28:40]: And the correspondence that they had agreed to [0:28:41, 0:28:43]: But they had originally wanted fifty feet. [0:28:44, 0:28:46]: Yeah, mining it to sixty five feet. [0:28:47, 0:28:53]: which was more in compliance with the uh other properties in the area, where they have 60 and 62 feet. [0:28:54, 0:28:57]: And so the variance is really not out of. [0:28:57, 0:29:08]: out out of line because you have other variants there already that are not meeting the 75 foot setback requirement and there has been an amendment to that. In addition that Eagles Landing accepted that. [0:29:08, 0:29:10]: as being sixty five feet. [0:29:11, 0:29:17]: And so I believe what we're voting on is the amended application uh for setback of sixty five feet. [0:29:20, 0:29:24]: I may be wrong, but that's what I think. That's my understanding. [0:29:24, 0:29:25]: Yeah. [0:29:25, 0:29:29]: Well, you're actually voting on on both. You're voting on whether to [0:29:29, 0:29:34]: To grant the original request, which we recommend denial of. [0:29:34, 0:29:35]: And then we're [0:29:36, 0:29:37]: Then we then here on this [0:29:38, 0:29:39]: I have on my screen. [0:29:39, 0:29:40]: Uh [0:29:40, 0:29:43]: The applicant's revise request, so you're voting on that too. [0:29:44, 0:29:45]: Well wait a minute now. [0:29:46, 0:29:50]: You originally denied it. Wait, wait. You originally denied it because they wanted 50 feet. [0:29:50, 0:29:56]: Correct. We didn't deny. We recommended deny. You recommended denial because it's 50 feet. [0:29:56, 0:30:00]: Then they came back with 65 feet and you approved it, correct? [0:30:00, 0:30:02]: We recommend approval. [0:30:02, 0:30:04]: You recommend approval for the sixty five feet. [0:30:05, 0:30:11]: And so they got the amendment in. So we're actually voting on the 65 feet and the 50 feet has nothing to do with it. [0:30:13, 0:30:21]: Correct? Because you already said you recommended against that. So we're actually voting we're actually voting on the 65 feet setback requirement. [0:30:22, 0:30:33]: Mr. Chairman, this is Mr. Dumas again. I may be wrong, but based on what I'm hearing, it appears to me that we probably should vote on both the original and the amended. [0:30:35, 0:30:42]: So you want to vote to deny the original and then a vote to I'm not I'm not suggesting how we should vote. I'm saying [0:30:42, 0:30:48]: That we should address both of them. It it seems confusing to me. [0:30:48, 0:30:52]: The way the way the d you're articulating it. [0:30:52, 0:31:02]: It seems confusing to me. Well, I think it might help if I were to read into the record the uh applicant's revised request, which I have on my screen, number one. [0:31:02, 0:31:03]: And number two. [0:31:03, 0:31:05]: There's supposed to be a public hearing. [0:31:05, 0:31:07]: before any vote takes place. [0:31:09, 0:31:10]: You go here, Ms. Logan. [0:31:11, 0:31:13]: Okay, so I'm reading the um [0:31:13, 0:31:15]: Applicants revised. [0:31:15, 0:31:16]: Letter. [0:31:16, 0:31:20]: That we received it has a date of March sixteenth, twenty twenty two. [0:31:21, 0:31:26]: To whom it may concern, subject seven two seven Beth Page Drive Setback Variance. [0:31:26, 0:31:31]: My name is Nitesh Patel and I'm the owner of 727 Beth Page Drive. [0:31:31, 0:31:33]: McDonald, Georgia, three oh two five three. [0:31:34, 0:31:36]: I'm planning to build our dream home on this lot. [0:31:37, 0:31:38]: In Eagles Land and Country Club. [0:31:38, 0:31:41]: Majority of the lots and the subdivision lots. [0:31:41, 0:31:45]: Has fifty foot set fifty foot setbacks, rear setbacks. [0:31:45, 0:31:49]: With the exception of some on golf course that has seventy five feet. [0:31:50, 0:31:53]: My builder Faisal Suparawala. [0:31:53, 0:31:55]: Газ біл североїзнес неборгод. [0:31:55, 0:31:57]: And was able to get a rear setback. [0:31:58, 0:31:59]: variance reduced to fifty feet. [0:32:00, 0:32:02]: A number of properties in the neighborhood. [0:32:02, 0:32:05]: As long as you get golf club approval. [0:32:05, 0:32:10]: We have the approvals from the golf course and from HOA of Equals Landing. [0:32:10, 0:32:13]: We have also provided the addresses where variances were obtained. [0:32:14, 0:32:18]: According to Eagles Landing HOA building guidelines already submitted. [0:32:18, 0:32:21]: We cannot have a front entry garage. [0:32:21, 0:32:25]: In the subdivision and then and that's why we had to build a side yard. [0:32:25, 0:32:28]: A side entry courtyard garage to fit on his lot. [0:32:29, 0:32:33]: By doing this, the house footprint will not fit within the setbacks in place. [0:32:34, 0:32:35]: That's why we are requesting [0:32:36, 0:32:38]: A reduction in rear setbacks to fifty feet. [0:32:39, 0:32:44]: However, if for any reason the board is not able to reduce to 50 feet, we will be fine. [0:32:44, 0:32:47]: With a reduction to a minimum sixty five feet. [0:32:48, 0:32:50]: This will allow us to fit the house. [0:32:50, 0:32:52]: with the current plans on to it as luck. [0:32:53, 0:32:56]: I have spent thousands of dollars with engineers and architects. [0:32:56, 0:32:58]: And over four months of time. [0:32:59, 0:33:03]: I've complied with everything the city P Z planning and zoning department asked for. [0:33:03, 0:33:06]: I hope the board consider our simple request. [0:33:06, 0:33:09]: So that we can be on our way of getting this house built. [0:33:10, 0:33:12]: Please don't hesitate to call me. [0:33:12, 0:33:14]: If you have any questions. [0:33:14, 0:33:17]: Four seven eight three three five one four [0:33:17, 0:33:18]: two seven. [0:33:20, 0:33:21]: Okay. [0:33:21, 0:33:23]: And it's sincerely Natash. [0:33:23, 0:33:24]: Patel. [0:33:24, 0:33:26]: And it has a s his signature. [0:33:26, 0:33:37]: Mr. Chairman, this is Dave Planchon. It sounds like he wants us to vote on both, whether or not we will allow him the fifty foot. And if not, then will we allow him the sixty-five? [0:33:38, 0:33:39]: Okay. [0:33:40, 0:33:48]: That's correct. That's correct. Okay. But this is a public hearing, so we will need to um open it up for it for that portion. [0:33:48, 0:33:49]: If you all are ready. [0:33:50, 0:33:52]: All right, open it up for public hearing. [0:33:57, 0:34:06]: We'll need to address those who are in opposition of the request and those in favor and each side gets time to respond. [0:34:10, 0:34:11]: Um [0:34:11, 0:34:15]: Yeah, go ahead. Uh I'm fine for Safariola. [0:34:17, 0:34:19]: Can you guys hear me? [0:34:21, 0:34:28]: Chairman, if I may, um, do you before you call for the public hearing, would you like to hear from the applicants? [0:34:28, 0:34:31]: Sure we hear from at this at this time. [0:34:31, 0:34:35]: I think he's that that uh he's the developer, he's not the applicant, but go ahead. [0:34:38, 0:34:42]: He's applied on behalf of the of the owner. Okay. Mr. Fess. [0:34:42, 0:34:45]: Yes, sir. Um again Pfizer's probably all I am. [0:34:46, 0:34:57]: Nine hundred for the pines, uh McDonald, Georgia is within the city of Five Residents of my residence. Um as uh you know we've we've been going back and forth. [0:34:58, 0:35:00]: Logan and she's been very helpful with [0:35:01, 0:35:05]: Azil, I'm sorry, we can we can barely hear you. [0:35:05, 0:35:06]: Speaker up into the mic, please. [0:35:07, 0:35:08]: Can you can you guys hear me? [0:35:09, 0:35:10]: Yes. [0:35:11, 0:35:19]: Yeah, I'm sorry. Uh so I am uh I am a builder developer, resident builder over here in Eaglesign and Country Club, built several homes. Um [0:35:20, 0:35:21]: And uh [0:35:21, 0:35:23]: This is the issue we run into uh [0:35:24, 0:35:27]: Several times with the property on the golf course. [0:35:27, 0:35:27]: Um [0:35:28, 0:35:30]: There are about eight hundred properties in this neighborhood. [0:35:30, 0:35:31]: Out of which [0:35:32, 0:35:32]: Yeah. [0:35:32, 0:35:34]: Maybe um [0:35:34, 0:35:37]: hundred are on golf course and other seven hundred they are on [0:35:38, 0:35:40]: non golf cour non golf coast properties. [0:35:41, 0:35:43]: So the setbacks on those are fifty foot. [0:35:43, 0:35:44]: Except for the [0:35:45, 0:35:46]: the the golf course ones. Um [0:35:47, 0:35:51]: And after talking to the the city several times. [0:35:51, 0:35:54]: But looking at a request, you know, they [0:35:55, 0:35:58]: They they they recommended us that seventy five foot [0:35:58, 0:36:00]: To fifty foot would be [0:36:00, 0:36:08]: would be uh not possible to get at this time. And um if if it was any other way that we could do this. So [0:36:09, 0:36:12]: That's why we are here. We are able to do this. [0:36:12, 0:36:23]: at a you know um we talked to our engineers and it's like we're gonna need minimum of sixty five foot to to get uh the this house that you know with the with this garage in there. [0:36:23, 0:36:25]: So that's why um [0:36:25, 0:36:27]: Questing um [0:36:27, 0:36:30]: If any of you have any uh [0:36:31, 0:36:34]: uh questions I'm here to answer on behalf of Mr. Patel. [0:36:36, 0:36:37]: I have a question for you. [0:36:37, 0:36:42]: Yes, sir. Did you build the other two houses with the uh setback variances? [0:36:42, 0:36:48]: Uh I built three oh six Broadmoor. Uh that was in the county. Uh that's [0:36:48, 0:36:50]: It was on the paper but [0:36:50, 0:36:57]: We couldn't see that uh map on the on the map. Uh eight forty five Coghill. I'm the one who got the variance, but [0:36:57, 0:36:57]: Um [0:36:58, 0:37:00]: Right after right after we did that. [0:37:00, 0:37:05]: the COVID happened and the seller of the the owner of the property decided not to build. [0:37:06, 0:37:10]: The other two properties, they do not abut the uh golf course at all, do they? [0:37:11, 0:37:12]: They do, both of them they do, yes sir. [0:37:13, 0:37:14]: Both of them are butcher golf course. [0:37:14, 0:37:15]: Yes, sir. [0:37:15, 0:37:16]: Okay. [0:37:16, 0:37:30]: It's one is Cog Hill, 845 Cog Hill, which is just one street. Actually is on the other side of the golf course. If you look at that picture that she was showing earlier with the plat where our subject property is, there's a golf course right behind it. [0:37:31, 0:37:34]: And the street right behind the golf course, that's yeah, so [0:37:34, 0:37:36]: That's Cog Hill on that side. [0:37:37, 0:37:40]: This is Cog Hill here, going between these two arts. [0:37:41, 0:37:41]: Zacog Hill. [0:37:42, 0:37:44]: And yeah, it actually intersects with [0:37:44, 0:37:47]: This is Beth Page Drive, so they they they intersect. [0:37:47, 0:37:56]: Yeah. And and Broadmoor is to the north on the other side of that property. Up here. Yeah. Other side of the scope. Yeah, where the cur where the cursor is, that's the other property. [0:37:56, 0:37:58]: But her cursor, yeah, right there. [0:37:58, 0:37:59]: That's the three oh six problem. [0:38:00, 0:38:01]: They're all on the hospital. [0:38:02, 0:38:08]: We were able to, I mean, you know, make our case and get fifty foot setbacks on both of those. [0:38:12, 0:38:14]: Okay, I don't have any further questions. [0:38:14, 0:38:16]: Anyone else have any questions? [0:38:21, 0:38:23]: This is Dave Planchin. Mr. Chairman, I do [0:38:26, 0:38:28]: For the builder, the FIZAL. [0:38:29, 0:38:32]: Are you going to present another building plan? [0:38:34, 0:38:36]: Sure, the the the building plan stays the same. [0:38:37, 0:38:43]: Uh that's why we are doing all this. Um the owner spent about almost twenty thousand dollars making this building plan. [0:38:43, 0:38:45]: and stays um [0:38:46, 0:38:46]: The [0:38:46, 0:38:57]: If uh the board approves that sixty-five foot setback, we would just, you know, that's one of the conditions, Miss Linda Johnson, uh Ms. Linda uh said. [0:38:57, 0:39:01]: That we just have to change the site plan asking for [0:39:02, 0:39:04]: sixty five instead of [0:39:04, 0:39:05]: Fifty. [0:39:07, 0:39:09]: Okay, the site plan that I saw. [0:39:10, 0:39:14]: showed a front entrance garage which we know is not a not [0:39:14, 0:39:17]: Hmm, no, actually it's no no. [0:39:18, 0:39:19]: As a side entry garage, sir. [0:39:20, 0:39:20]: To the right. [0:39:21, 0:39:25]: It sits out as if it's a front end drive drive right here. [0:39:25, 0:39:26]: And the entrance. [0:39:27, 0:39:30]: This way. So you have to make this turn to come into the garage. [0:39:31, 0:39:33]: On it. Okay. Okay. Okay. [0:39:36, 0:39:39]: So that is a side entrance. Okay. Thank you. [0:39:44, 0:39:45]: Any other questions? [0:39:47, 0:39:49]: I guess we'll open up to a public uh [0:39:51, 0:39:52]: Response. [0:39:54, 0:39:55]: Ms. Johnson? [0:39:56, 0:40:15]: Um, so I do not see any questions or raised hands uh from the public at this time. I believe we have two. Um, well, I do have one raised hand now. Um, Ms. Charlene Nichols, if you would um state your name and your address for the record and your request. [0:40:20, 0:40:21]: Believe she's muted. [0:40:22, 0:40:30]: She is uh if you unmute and Robert, if you wouldn't mind making Ms. Nichols a panelist to ask her question. [0:40:37, 0:40:38]: And whoa. [0:40:38, 0:40:43]: What we'll do, Miss Charlene. I think she dropped off, but if she does jump back on, um we'll [0:40:44, 0:40:48]: uh give her an opportunity to speak if we haven't concluded the matter. [0:40:49, 0:40:50]: Should be back against it. [0:40:52, 0:40:54]: Pardon me? Well what was that? [0:40:57, 0:40:58]: She'll be back in just a second. [0:40:59, 0:40:59]: Okay. [0:41:01, 0:41:01]: Can be [0:41:10, 0:41:28]: But as of right now, um we did have just Miss Charlene, who's the other person that wants to speak. Um and I'm not sure if it's in favor or or opposing the request. So we'll if you do want to give her that time to get back on, um chairman. [0:41:28, 0:41:29]: Yeah. [0:41:41, 0:41:47]: Okay, so Ms. Nichols is a panelist. Looks like she's a panelist on here and [0:41:47, 0:41:52]: Ms. Nichols, if you would like to speak, please state your name, your address. [0:41:52, 0:41:55]: And whether you're in favor or in opposition of the [0:41:56, 0:41:58]: of the proposed variants. [0:42:15, 0:42:17]: Okay. Is she there? [0:42:18, 0:42:24]: She's here, but I don't think she's able to speak. Ms. Nichols, if you wouldn't mind, if you will write in the chat. [0:42:25, 0:42:27]: And then we can address we can address your matter. [0:42:28, 0:42:29]: Um [0:42:31, 0:42:31]: Mm. [0:42:39, 0:42:48]: Chairman, I guess it at this point we can ask, if you wouldn't mind, we can ask for those, if there's anyone who would like to speak in favor of this request. [0:42:52, 0:42:57]: Is there anyone present who would like to speak in favor of uh the proposed uh variant? [0:43:03, 0:43:06]: Okay, I don't see anything in the QA. [0:43:07, 0:43:09]: And I do not see. [0:43:10, 0:43:12]: A raised hand at this time. [0:43:14, 0:43:18]: And if you wouldn't mind calling for those who would like to speak in opposition. [0:43:18, 0:43:19]: Other request? [0:43:20, 0:43:24]: Uh those parties have an uh position in opposition of the variants. [0:43:24, 0:43:28]: Kindly step forward, speak, give your name, address. [0:43:33, 0:43:34]: Hi. [0:43:34, 0:43:36]: At this time. [0:43:37, 0:43:40]: And give me one more moment. I'm gonna take a look. [0:43:45, 0:43:51]: I do not have any other questions or raised hands at this time. [0:43:52, 0:43:58]: We have we have no one at this time to speak in opposition or in favor of the request. [0:44:03, 0:44:07]: Hearing none, the the uh commission will take a vote on the variance. [0:44:08, 0:44:10]: Uh uh was there any chat come in yet? [0:44:12, 0:44:13]: Nothing is coming at this time. [0:44:14, 0:44:14]: Okay. [0:44:15, 0:44:21]: But we have no we have no one to speak in favor or opposition at this time. Okay, Ms. Nichols. Ms. Nichols is on. [0:44:22, 0:44:31]: Ms. Nichols, if you unmute your mic and tell us your name and your address for the record and whether you are in favor or opposed to the variance. [0:44:41, 0:44:42]: There may be some. [0:44:44, 0:44:45]: Technical difficulties. [0:44:49, 0:44:49]: [2695.9, 2697.2]: Oh her mic is muted. [0:44:58, 0:45:03]: Ms. Nichols, if you unmute your mic and I've asked, I've sent a request for you to unmute. [0:45:10, 0:45:11]: Mm-hmm. [0:45:14, 0:45:25]: Okay, I think there's some technical technical difficulties there. Um is up to you, Chairman, if you would like to offer any additional time to Ms. Nichols. [0:45:25, 0:45:34]: Otherwise um we would be able to move forward with with the vote. I I believe we should move forward with this. Uh yeah we [0:45:34, 0:45:40]: Pardon me, um, this is Dave Planchon. We have two other raised hands of Charlene Nichols. [0:45:40, 0:45:42]: And the Gordon Linton [0:45:42, 0:45:50]: And Gordon Linton is one of our staff members. Uh Gordon, do you have information from Ms. Nichols in regards to this matter? [0:45:50, 0:45:59]: Yes. So she's she she's she's having technical issues and she says that it's not working. Like I'm corresponding with her right now. [0:45:59, 0:46:00]: Okay. [0:46:00, 0:46:06]: Does she would she like to offer whether she is in support or in opposition of the variance request? [0:46:07, 0:46:10]: She is in opposition of their variance request. [0:46:10, 0:46:13]: Okay, she needs to stay provide her name. [0:46:13, 0:46:16]: And her address for the record. [0:46:18, 0:46:19]: Okay. [0:46:24, 0:46:24]: Oh [0:46:25, 0:46:30]: She says she's she's she's n actually she's not in opposition. She just has some questions. [0:46:32, 0:46:32]: Okay. [0:46:33, 0:46:36]: If she can correspond with you on those questions. [0:46:37, 0:46:38]: Or maybe a phone call. [0:46:42, 0:46:43]: Mm. [0:46:44, 0:46:48]: She's she asks how how will this affect the neighbors? [0:46:48, 0:46:58]: So what we'll need to do, uh Gordon, she will need to provide her full name and her address for the record. We would have to have that first to verify that she is a stockers resident. [0:46:59, 0:46:59]: Okay. [0:47:10, 0:47:10]: Mm. [0:47:10, 0:47:14]: Sept seven thirty three Beth Page Drive. [0:47:14, 0:47:19]: Thank you so much. 733 Beth Page Drive is Charlene Nichols. [0:47:21, 0:47:22]: Mm. [0:47:22, 0:47:26]: Okay, so she is not opposed, but she has questions. [0:47:26, 0:47:27]: Her question is [0:47:29, 0:47:33]: She said well, actually she's saying that's her assistant. Um [0:47:33, 0:47:35]: That's her assistant. [0:47:36, 0:47:39]: Um she's actually texting me right. Her name is Leona Shaw. [0:47:43, 0:47:43]: Okay. [0:47:44, 0:47:45]: And what is the question? [0:47:46, 0:47:50]: She asked she had a question about how will this affect neighbors? [0:47:52, 0:47:53]: That's that's her question. [0:47:54, 0:48:11]: Okay. Um chairman, you can give the um the applicant the ability to respond. Um it's it's a pretty broad question, but um if there are any specifics for them, that'd be appreciative if that can be shared. Otherwise. [0:48:11, 0:48:15]: Chairman, you can give the applicant an opportunity to respond to that question. [0:48:15, 0:48:16]: Yeah. [0:48:17, 0:48:19]: I'm sorry. Um she said it in terms of the view. [0:48:20, 0:48:23]: how this affect the neighbors in terms of the view. That's her question. [0:48:26, 0:48:33]: Excuse me, I have verified that the address of seven thirty three Beth Page Drive is located in Stockford City Limit. [0:48:35, 0:48:38]: Will you have Mr. Fizer address that issue that the um [0:48:39, 0:48:40]: Public has raised. [0:48:41, 0:48:42]: Yes. I mean that [0:48:43, 0:48:49]: The question is how is it gonna affect the view? Uh I don't know what view [0:48:50, 0:48:57]: She's talking about because this particular look sounds like this is the neighbor, the waking property. There's not a [0:48:57, 0:48:58]: There's not a house on it. [0:48:59, 0:49:00]: It's a vacant property. [0:49:01, 0:49:02]: And um [0:49:03, 0:49:07]: The view is in the backyard to the golf course. It does not affect that at all. [0:49:08, 0:49:09]: The diss. [0:49:09, 0:49:10]: Um [0:49:11, 0:49:13]: with this with this variance request. [0:49:13, 0:49:20]: So you're saying that because it's a real setback uh adjustment uh variance and it's facing the golf course. [0:49:20, 0:49:27]: It would not affect the public or any adjoining property owners view, correct? Correct correct. They'll still have their own view. [0:49:27, 0:49:29]: Whatever they see from the backyard. [0:49:29, 0:49:30]: [2970.6, 2973.2]: obstructing their backyard. We're just going in. [0:49:33, 0:49:33]: Cool. [0:49:34, 0:49:35]: Our backyard. [0:49:35, 0:49:36]: You're not obstructing their view. [0:49:37, 0:49:37]: No. [0:49:38, 0:49:42]: Correct. All right. You might mean the view from the backyard looking sideways. [0:49:43, 0:49:43]: Um [0:49:44, 0:49:51]: Well she's gonna hide. I don't know that we can verify that at this at this point since we had have to have to verify um [0:49:51, 0:50:11]: what location this is. And if the lot is currently wooded, the effect would be it would no longer be wooded and it would be built. It would be developed. And I have I have a little objection. I don't know if she qualifies to be a Stockbridge resident. It's a it's just an empty lot. She's not a resident. It's just a lot. [0:50:14, 0:50:22]: Okay. Well we have her question and her and the answer, uh Chairman. Are you ready to move forward with the vote? Yes, I am. [0:50:22, 0:50:23]: Okay. [0:50:23, 0:50:28]: Mr. Chairman, uh this is Mr. Dumas, please, before we take the vote. [0:50:29, 0:50:32]: I would just I just have a comment that I'd like to make. [0:50:33, 0:50:33]: Sure. [0:50:34, 0:50:34]: Um [0:50:36, 0:50:39]: And you guys have heard me say this many times. It's rare that I will. [0:50:41, 0:50:43]: Go against the recommendation of staff. [0:50:45, 0:50:47]: But but in this particular case. [0:50:48, 0:50:50]: Oh with four is the [0:50:50, 0:50:52]: The original variance request. [0:50:53, 0:50:53]: [3053.7, 3055.9]: Uh I'm inclined to [0:50:56, 0:50:59]: disagree with staff on this issue. [0:50:59, 0:51:00]: For several reasons. [0:51:01, 0:51:02]: Mainly of optics. [0:51:03, 0:51:04]: Because [0:51:06, 0:51:09]: We entertain this body, this this commission. [0:51:09, 0:51:12]: In February two thousand nineteen. [0:51:12, 0:51:15]: We entertain a very similar [0:51:16, 0:51:17]: Various requests. [0:51:19, 0:51:20]: In the same subdivision. [0:51:21, 0:51:22]: Same agent. [0:51:23, 0:51:26]: Same a variance request in terms of footage. [0:51:27, 0:51:30]: And this body voted unanimously to approve it. [0:51:32, 0:51:36]: And it went to city council in March of two twenty nineteen. [0:51:36, 0:51:38]: And they approved it also. [0:51:41, 0:51:47]: And I'm just concerned. I don't think there's a right or wrong answer. I'm not debating fifty versus sixty-five. [0:51:48, 0:51:51]: But I am concerned of about consistency. [0:51:53, 0:51:57]: When a person come before this body or this city. [0:51:59, 0:52:02]: with very similar requests at two different intervals. [0:52:03, 0:52:05]: and they get two different results. [0:52:05, 0:52:06]: To me that's problematic. [0:52:10, 0:52:12]: I I think from a consistency standpoint. [0:52:14, 0:52:15]: That we should [0:52:17, 0:52:22]: uh treat this uh various requests the same way we treated the one in 2019. [0:52:23, 0:52:33]: And one but you're supposed to just I'm sorry. In a variant request in 2019, what was the variance from 60 or 62 feet? 75 to 50. [0:52:34, 0:52:40]: Seventy five to fifty. Yes, it was a golf course lot. It's one street over from this one. [0:52:40, 0:52:41]: And we granted it. [0:52:42, 0:52:47]: That was an 845 Cog Hill. The Homeowners Association didn't have a problem with it. [0:52:48, 0:52:50]: Just like they don't have a problem with this one. [0:52:51, 0:52:52]: And [0:52:52, 0:52:53]: I think [0:52:54, 0:52:56]: In my opinion, we should be consistent. [0:52:59, 0:53:00]: For the sake of [0:53:02, 0:53:08]: treating treating his people this you know the same way with very similar situation. [0:53:08, 0:53:12]: Okay, you know, with with with with zoning is always interesting because [0:53:13, 0:53:15]: Everybody comes up with a with a variance. [0:53:16, 0:53:17]: Um [0:53:17, 0:53:18]: The variance [0:53:18, 0:53:21]: that's closest to this is almost across the street from them. [0:53:23, 0:53:26]: They got a variance to sixty feet or sixty-two feet. [0:53:27, 0:53:34]: Here they're asking for 65. So that is really consistent with what's been going on. Now the fact that somebody got a 50 foot variance. [0:53:35, 0:53:39]: And if I'm not mistaken, isn't that out of the uh the this that's in Henry County? [0:53:39, 0:53:48]: No. Not in not in Stockbridge. No, no. The one that we voted on in 19 was in Stockbridge. The Stockbridge? Which is why we voted on it. [0:53:48, 0:53:51]: It wouldn't have come before us if were it not. [0:53:51, 0:53:54]: No, I thought he said earlier that they have approved one. [0:53:54, 0:54:03]: That was in Henry County, something I'm not even addressing that one. Yeah. When I mentioned the word consistency, I'm not talking about [0:54:03, 0:54:15]: Stockbridge versus Henry County. I'm talking about consistency in how we treat the same person with a very similar set of circumstances, set of facts. [0:54:16, 0:54:24]: I I just don't feel like you a person should come before this body in that with that scenario and get two different results. [0:54:25, 0:54:27]: It it it's that's problematic to me. [0:54:29, 0:54:31]: Mr. Chairman, this is Dave Planchon. [0:54:31, 0:54:32]: Go ahead. [0:54:32, 0:54:35]: Uh, my comment on this matter is. [0:54:35, 0:54:38]: The property owner has given us a choice. [0:54:39, 0:54:43]: to either approve a fifty foot or a sixty five foot. [0:54:44, 0:54:48]: I don't think there's any conflict with what was done in nineteen. [0:54:48, 0:54:51]: It wasn't stated whether the twenty nineteen [0:54:51, 0:54:54]: Variants offered a choice or not. [0:54:55, 0:54:57]: And this body approved the fifty foot. [0:54:57, 0:54:59]: But this in this case. [0:55:00, 0:55:02]: The owner has given us a choice. [0:55:03, 0:55:08]: So I think that's the direction we need to look at is choosing one of his options. [0:55:10, 0:55:11]: Okay. [0:55:13, 0:55:14]: Uh [0:55:15, 0:55:16]: Anyone else have any comments? [0:55:19, 0:55:22]: All right, then then we'll uh I'm asking for a vote. [0:55:23, 0:55:27]: on the fifty foot versus the sixty-five foot. That'll be the original application. [0:55:28, 0:55:29]: Versus the amended application. [0:55:30, 0:55:36]: Mr. Chairman, I'd like to offer a motion to approve the original variance request. [0:55:37, 0:55:39]: From seven to five to fifty feet. [0:55:40, 0:55:45]: Okay. That there's uh all those in favor, let it be known by sign of I. [0:55:45, 0:55:47]: Need a second first. Well, I'm sorry, second. [0:55:48, 0:55:49]: I'm second it. [0:55:49, 0:55:50]: You second it. [0:55:50, 0:55:54]: Okay. It's been moved in second, it's hell tip, though. [0:55:54, 0:56:00]: that uh the applicant be granted a 50-foot um variant. [0:56:01, 0:56:01]: Set bag. [0:56:02, 0:56:05]: All those in favor let it be known by Santa Bye. [0:56:06, 0:56:06]: Bye. [0:56:06, 0:56:07]: Uh [0:56:09, 0:56:10]: Those opposed? [0:56:11, 0:56:12]: Those opposed? [0:56:14, 0:56:15]: Hearing none. [0:56:15, 0:56:17]: The fifty foot variance is granted. [0:56:18, 0:56:19]: Was that your name on the boat? [0:56:20, 0:56:20]: Pardon me. [0:56:21, 0:56:22]: Was that a unanimous vote? [0:56:22, 0:56:23]: Yeah. [0:56:23, 0:56:24]: It was [0:56:24, 0:56:25]: Oh, you know, well. [0:56:27, 0:56:28]: Thank you, Chairman. [0:56:28, 0:56:30]: Okay. Thank you, um commissioners. [0:56:35, 0:56:52]: So our next item are project updates. Correct. I want to just say thank you to the Planning Commission for those of you who were able to attend the groundbreaking ceremony for the Argento at Bridges Jotaco. [0:56:53, 0:57:06]: Um, if you were not able to come and it was a it was a cold, damp morning. So if you weren't able to make it out, no worries. Uh I know Ms. Nelson uh was able to come out. And if I did not see you, oh no, Chairman Doole, you were there as well. [0:57:07, 0:57:12]: And I'm not sure if I saw anyone else, but if I if I didn't, please forgive me. [0:57:12, 0:57:24]: Um, I would love to set up a time to meet you out on site so that you can, if the developers are available, meet the developers, learn a little bit about the project. [0:57:24, 0:57:44]: And we'd be more familiarized with the new development that's going on throughout the city. So thank you again for that. Next, I wanted to address the UDC, the unified development code that this board sent through to the city council in October was adopted by [0:57:44, 0:57:46]: by the council on March fourteenth. [0:57:47, 0:58:04]: So kudos to this board for your dedication and diligence in reviewing the document and providing your questions, comments, and concerns, and for pushing this forward. The code allows for us to have a little bit more uh [0:58:05, 0:58:18]: control or or you know input on design detail, but also allows the developer additional design flexibility. We wanted to find a way to combine the two, and I think we have. [0:58:20, 0:58:26]: Furthermore, our zoning map and overlay district maps were also adopted. [0:58:26, 0:58:38]: We have a consultant we are working with who will be creating a digital map for our zoning map and our overlay district, and we'll have some other information available as well. [0:58:38, 0:58:45]: So please keep your eyes uh uh open for those. I'll send you emails to keep you up to date on that. [0:58:46, 0:58:59]: And it also will help our customers be able to identify property quickly instead of looking at the static map that we currently have. So uh I'll keep you guys posted on that. [0:59:01, 0:59:21]: Last but not least, the mayor will be uh available for a session at the South Metro Development Outlook Conference that is coming up next week. I believe that is going to be next Tuesday at the Georgia International Conference Center. [0:59:21, 0:59:21]: Yeah. [0:59:22, 0:59:25]: So if you are interested in attending, it starts at 7 a.m. [0:59:26, 0:59:28]: ends about two o clock or two thirty. [0:59:29, 0:59:33]: Um so we'll address address that then if you have some interest in attending. [0:59:33, 0:59:39]: Uh that's all I have for staff updates um outside of [0:59:39, 0:59:57]: um just of being appreciative of this board for being very thoughtful about the cases and items that come before you and for the discussion at any and every meeting. This is important and we appreciate the time and dedication that you put into these meetings. [0:59:57, 1:00:00]: So that's all I've got for you all tonight. [1:00:00, 1:00:02]: Um Chairman Abdullah. [1:00:02, 1:00:06]: I have a question for you. When will we get copies of the uh unified development code? [1:00:07, 1:00:21]: Well, we're getting the last signatures from the mayor, hopefully the first part of next week and getting it codified. Uh question, does everybody want a hard copy or do you want a digital copy as well? Because everybody's getting digital. [1:00:21, 1:00:25]: But if you want a hard copy as well, please let me know and we'll get that printed for you. [1:00:25, 1:00:27]: I'd like a hard copy. [1:00:27, 1:00:27]: Okay. [1:00:28, 1:00:29]: Chairman. [1:00:30, 1:00:34]: Anyone else want a hard copy of the unified development code? [1:00:35, 1:00:38]: Yeah, I'll take a hard copy. This is Harold Tivoda. [1:00:38, 1:00:40]: I got you, Mr. Tibodeau. [1:00:43, 1:00:45]: All right, is that it for the most part? [1:00:47, 1:00:49]: Okay. I believe that. [1:00:50, 1:00:51]: That completes the agenda. [1:00:52, 1:00:54]: Uh motion to adjourn. [1:00:55, 1:00:56]: A second. [1:00:57, 1:00:59]: You know, you making the motion. [1:00:59, 1:01:04]: Oh you said motion to adjourn. You got I said may I have a motion to adjourn. [1:01:07, 1:01:09]: I make a motion to adjourn tonight's meeting. [1:01:09, 1:01:10]: Yeah. [1:01:10, 1:01:10]: Yeah. [1:01:11, 1:01:13]: I second it. Mr. Tibetal second. [1:01:14, 1:01:14]: Yeah. [1:01:15, 1:01:18]: It's been moved and second. All those in favor, let it be known by the sign of aye. [1:01:18, 1:01:21]: Uh uh those opposed. [1:01:22, 1:01:26]: Bas have it, this meeting is adjourned until the next scheduled meeting. [1:01:27, 1:01:29]: Thank you all for being present this evening. [1:01:30, 1:01:32]: And uh the debate is always welcome. [1:01:34, 1:01:41]: Everybody take care. All right. Bye bye. Thank you all. Have a good evening. Have a good evening.

--- title: Downtown Development Authority date: 2022-03-15 source: 2022-03-15_Downtown_Development_Authority.wav --- [0:00:03, 0:00:16]: Uh good evening. Um this is the uh March fifteenth meeting of the Dow Stockbridge Downtown Development Authority. Uh welcome. Uh we will start off with a roll call. Uh Bob, if you'll please call the meeting. [0:00:17, 0:00:19]: Okay. Um Councilman Alexander. [0:00:21, 0:00:21]: Present. [0:00:22, 0:00:23]: Uh, Roger Custon. [0:00:24, 0:00:25]: Present. [0:00:25, 0:00:26]: The Nico King. [0:00:26, 0:00:27]: Present. [0:00:28, 0:00:29]: Barber Richardson. [0:00:29, 0:00:30]: Present. [0:00:31, 0:00:32]: Uh Maxwell Sears. [0:00:33, 0:00:33]: Mm-hmm. [0:00:34, 0:00:36]: And Bob Swagert, president. [0:00:37, 0:00:45]: Thank you. Uh that's a um uh that calls for a quorum. So we will call the meeting in order at six oh two PM. [0:00:46, 0:01:06]: All right, first item on the agenda is um to well first of all I'd like to welcome we have some guest uh speakers with us today, so um we'll introduce them uh shortly, uh but um we'll go ahead and start off with uh today's meeting agenda. So I'd like to um [0:01:06, 0:01:15]: make um uh well first of all let me defer to Barber. Uh Barber did was there anything you wanted to reorder a motion to reorder on the agenda? [0:01:15, 0:01:19]: Yes, uh please if we could move the treasurer's report up. [0:01:20, 0:01:22]: I'm in between a couple of deadlines, so [0:01:22, 0:01:25]: That would be very helpful if it's okay with everyone else. [0:01:27, 0:01:36]: Okay, so how about we we move that? Um would it be all right uh uh if it follows the uh Georgia Tech Market Studion? [0:01:37, 0:01:37]: Yeah. [0:01:38, 0:01:58]: All right. So we'll just uh so sp so sp to clarify the the motion we'll do we'll go into after we approve the meeting minutes of the agenda of the meeting minutes will go into the Georgia Tech uh market study approval and then the treasurer's report and then we'll proceed with the um agenda as [0:01:58, 0:02:01]: stated or just the Georgia Power Place reports. [0:02:03, 0:02:08]: Is that will that work for you, Barber? All right. Is there a second? [0:02:10, 0:02:11]: Okay. [0:02:13, 0:02:20]: All right, I think I heard from Samikwa and Bob at the same time. Any discussion on the agenda or any other changes? [0:02:23, 0:02:30]: All right, hearing none. So let's um let's uh by show of hands uh approval to change the agenda as stated. [0:02:31, 0:02:35]: I see Bobson Aqua Barber. [0:02:35, 0:02:43]: And Maxwell. All right, I think that's unanimous. Thank you, everyone. Councilman Alexander, okay. If you would like. Thank you. And Councilman Alexander. [0:02:45, 0:02:47]: I think he's under Alan Peterson's um [0:02:48, 0:02:48]: I D. [0:02:48, 0:02:49]: Oh, okay. [0:02:51, 0:02:52]: We can change that. [0:02:54, 0:02:57]: You can change that. Um All right. Let me let me do that. [0:03:07, 0:03:21]: All right. Let's move to the next item, which is to approve the meeting minutes for February 15th, which was shared, I believe it was shared with everyone on Sunday. So motion to approve the uh meeting minutes. [0:03:23, 0:03:26]: I'll go ahead and make the motion. Um, do we have a second? [0:03:26, 0:03:27]: Second. [0:03:27, 0:03:30]: Thank you, Bob. Any discussion? [0:03:33, 0:03:37]: All right. My show of hands to approve the meeting minutes from February 15th. [0:03:40, 0:03:47]: All right. Councilman Alexander, you froze, so I think that's if you could say yay or nay, please. [0:03:49, 0:04:09]: I see his hand. Okay, very good. Thank you. All right. So with the uh following into new business, so we have the Georgia Tech Market Study. I sent a note about this, I believe on Sunday. Um we as in our last meeting, the board approved a$4,000 [0:04:09, 0:04:29]: Ex uh really portion of the expense for the uh uh Georgia Tech to do a marketing analysis or market analysis for the downtown area. As I was signing it, I noticed the scope was limited to residential only. So following some clarification. [0:04:28, 0:04:48]: On the scope, we got a revised uh proposal for$5,000, not$4,000 to include commercial and retail in the analysis. Uh so um I'd like to make a uh motion that we approve the five thousand dollar expense. [0:04:48, 0:05:00]: to proceed with the uh market analysis. Um and uh thank you bob is there any discussion on the motion or any questions [0:05:05, 0:05:25]: All right, hearing none, we'll do by raise of hand uh a favor to approve the$5,000 expense for the market analysis, which we're to tech. I see Councilman Alexander's and everyone. Okay, it looks like it's unanimous. Thank you, everyone. I really appreciate your support on that. And we'll move next to the uh financial report. Uh Barber, did you know? [0:05:25, 0:05:28]: need me to queue this up or you or you want to go ahead and present? [0:05:28, 0:05:34]: Oh yes, I can present. Um do I have to you need me to print you access. [0:05:38, 0:05:38]: Yeah. [0:05:39, 0:05:41]: Or if you want to share it, that's fine if it's easier. [0:05:42, 0:05:45]: E e either way, are you able to or do I need to? [0:05:45, 0:05:47]: I don't have mm. [0:05:47, 0:05:50]: Let me uh let me straighten that out just a moment. [0:05:52, 0:05:53]: There we go. [0:05:59, 0:06:00]: To be labeled on my end. [0:06:01, 0:06:03]: Okay, you should be able to now. [0:06:12, 0:06:14]: Is my screen visible to everyone? [0:06:15, 0:06:26]: Yes. Okay, so for the month of February, um, we did have non-operating revenue for the month of 45,000. This is our 2021 council approved budget. [0:06:27, 0:06:32]: So that's our intergovernmental grant that we receive from the city. [0:06:32, 0:06:41]: Of which 25,000 of the 45 is allocated to the facade grant and 20,000 is allocated for operating expenses. [0:06:41, 0:06:43]: So that's where we get the forty five thousand from. [0:06:44, 0:06:50]: That was the only income we received for the month. As far as operating expenses, we had a$5. [0:06:50, 0:06:59]: bank fee uh which was for the incoming wire of the 45,000 and then our monthly forty dollar zoom expense. [0:07:00, 0:07:04]: So excuse me, total operating expenses,$45. [0:07:04, 0:07:11]: Which uh we end up for the month of net income of forty-four thousand nine hundred fifty-five dollars. [0:07:12, 0:07:14]: Any questions on the February? [0:07:15, 0:07:16]: Revenue or expense. [0:07:18, 0:07:19]: Okay. [0:07:22, 0:07:27]: Uh this brings our cash balance at the end of February for the facade grant. We now sit at [0:07:28, 0:07:32]: One hundred nineteen thousand nine hundred seven dollars and five cents. [0:07:33, 0:07:36]: In the operating account, we have fifty-nive thousand. [0:07:36, 0:07:38]: Fourteen dollars and eight cents. [0:07:39, 0:07:40]: Oh no, I can't do it. [0:07:45, 0:07:50]: For the month of February we had a oh Jesus, one second. [0:07:53, 0:08:11]: For those who don't know, Barber manages a CPA firm. So sorry, guys. Yeah. I apologize. I thought I was gone. Anyway, so um with the revenue and expenses that brings our a change in cash for us to the positive for the month. [0:08:11, 0:08:22]: So we show a net change in cash of$44,955. And again, this is just a breakdown of what came in, the$45,000, and what went out. [0:08:22, 0:08:23]: Uh for the month. [0:08:24, 0:08:26]: Any questions about? [0:08:27, 0:08:30]: our account balances or the activity for the month of February. [0:08:30, 0:08:34]: One thing I will note is right now we don't have any liabilities. [0:08:34, 0:08:54]: And obviously we are going to have the upcoming$5,000 expense that we just approved. So we'll see that reflected in the next month. And also not in this, but just kind of a precursor, I did send anyone everyone an email with some training, some in-person training that's coming up, VA training for 2022. [0:08:54, 0:09:04]: Um so it's possible that next month, you know, we may see at least have a discussion about uh incurring some training costs for current members. [0:09:05, 0:09:08]: That's it. That's all we have forward looking right now. [0:09:10, 0:09:11]: Any questions? [0:09:13, 0:09:15]: Okay, I will start sharing. [0:09:17, 0:09:37]: Very good. Um thank you, uh Barber. Um and I'd like to, you know, thank you for putting together the information on the training. And um I really do recommend, and then we've all we've all been through basic training. I believe we've all been through advanced training, but uh that's valuable information to get repeated. I think, you know, a lot of times it it it's kind of an intensive [0:09:37, 0:09:57]: course and and it helps once we've been serving on the board, I believe, to go through the training again. So I encourage everyone to sign up for it. I'll go ahead and mention that I've also uh I'm gonna be sending a link. I th I thought I did it before but I couldn't see where it was in my sent mail. Um our attorney McCray is offering some [0:09:56, 0:10:16]: um a training course which counts towards DDA training and I'll send that information following the meeting. Consider that as a supplement in addition to or as an alternate from the training courses that Barber has uh shared with the team. So um I encourage you to keep the uh keep the education going. [0:10:16, 0:10:36]: And uh with that, uh we are going to turn over to the uh our guest speaker for the evening. So we have with us um Sharon Russell and Mike Manzier with the uh Southern Company. Um I believe I might need to make Mike the host so that you can uh share your screen. [0:10:36, 0:10:39]: But let me turn let me turn it over to Sharon. Thank you. [0:10:40, 0:10:45]: Thank you, Roger. And good evening, everyone. I am Sharon Russell. [0:10:46, 0:10:56]: And I am the community development manager with Georgia Power, and I am one of 10 community development managers located geographically across the state of Georgia. [0:10:57, 0:11:03]: I support um five metro counties on the south side, which Henry County is being one. [0:11:03, 0:11:05]: As well as faith. [0:11:05, 0:11:09]: Clayton, Calwita, and South Fulton County. [0:11:09, 0:11:18]: So I wanna just extend a a thank you to Roger as well as to Alan for inviting us here this evening to go over some. [0:11:19, 0:11:23]: Um placer analysis, retail, um foot traffic. [0:11:23, 0:11:24]: data point. [0:11:25, 0:11:41]: And with Georgia Power, our main mission in the community and economic development space is job creation as well as capital investments for the communities. But we are also here to help make Georgia's communities better places to live and to do. [0:11:41, 0:11:42]: Business. [0:11:43, 0:11:48]: We assist with existing industry and expansions as well as retention. [0:11:49, 0:11:58]: And we also assist communities with asset development, real estate products, local leadership, and community and economic development strategies. [0:11:58, 0:12:03]: And to assist us with accomplishing those goals. [0:12:03, 0:12:16]: We have a host of researchers and Mike Manzer is a data scientist on our research team who are able to do deep dives into all types of analytics demographic data. [0:12:16, 0:12:28]: and um then be able to turn that data into usable information. So he is joining me tonight. We have a new um retail tool that we are using that [0:12:29, 0:12:46]: tracks and monitors retail foot traffic. And I'm going to turn it over to Mike to give us a little deeper dive into what the results look like and what it's telling us in regards to the footprint for your downtown Main Street development. [0:12:49, 0:12:50]: Thanks, Sean. [0:12:50, 0:12:53]: Um, like Sean said, I'm Mike Maynzer. Um [0:12:54, 0:12:59]: So for those of you don't know me, I work in the research department in community economic development for Georgia Power. [0:12:59, 0:13:02]: And let me share my screen here. [0:13:03, 0:13:03]: Um [0:13:04, 0:13:05]: So we can get started. [0:13:07, 0:13:09]: That's uh this one. [0:13:13, 0:13:13]: Okay. [0:13:14, 0:13:15]: Just give me a thumbs up if [0:13:15, 0:13:16]: Y'all can see that. [0:13:17, 0:13:19]: Can get started. Okay. So [0:13:20, 0:13:26]: Uh I know that a couple of months ago we prepared a report for some Placer information. So you may have that with you or you may have seen that. [0:13:27, 0:13:34]: Uh in the couple months since that was made though, Placer has gone through a a series of updates. So there's new features that they have. [0:13:34, 0:13:40]: um and also they update this data pretty much every day so i wanted to show some more recent figures for you so [0:13:41, 0:13:43]: Uh it doesn't follow that original presentation exactly. [0:13:43, 0:13:47]: uh if you have it alongside you. And um yeah, so I'll just get started right now. [0:13:48, 0:13:49]: So [0:13:49, 0:14:01]: First things first, just to let you know about who I am and what my group and research does for Georgia Power. Um, we help a lot on both the community development and the economic development side. Um [0:14:01, 0:14:05]: Either to help communities make themselves more marketable to [0:14:05, 0:14:06]: uh industries. [0:14:06, 0:14:12]: And to existing industries to to help them either expand or or locate somewhere in the state of Georgia. [0:14:12, 0:14:23]: So we get asked a lot of questions just really to deliver information. Um a lot of times it's centered around demographics and workforce. Uh what are the industries in my area, the top employers. [0:14:24, 0:14:25]: Um [0:14:25, 0:14:28]: You know, what's the job growth look like, etcetera, et cetera. [0:14:29, 0:14:35]: Uh, something that we've been more involved with since last fall is a lot of retail and foot traffic analysis. [0:14:35, 0:14:39]: And that's what I'll I'll be talking about today, uh, specifically in the the Stockbridge D D DA. [0:14:40, 0:14:41]: But for the [0:14:42, 0:14:45]: Tool that we use for that is a piece of software called Placer AI. [0:14:46, 0:14:50]: And I swear this is the last list of bullet points that I'll I'll drum out about. [0:14:50, 0:14:50]: Um [0:14:51, 0:14:54]: But what they are and and this is just important context to understand when I [0:14:55, 0:14:57]: We walk through some of these images and maps. [0:14:57, 0:15:01]: They're a software company that specializes in foot traffic and retail analysis. [0:15:01, 0:15:13]: And the reason that a lot of people are are starting to use this software company is because instead of just basing estimates off of government surveys that are, you know, years old in many cases. [0:15:13, 0:15:17]: Um, what Placer does is they purchase anonymized cell phone location data. [0:15:18, 0:15:24]: Um, so every time we open up the apps on our phone, they talk to each other, they package that information and they sell it to companies like Placer. [0:15:25, 0:15:27]: Um place our packages it into all of these ways. [0:15:28, 0:15:29]: And they sell it back. [0:15:29, 0:15:34]: uh to people to use to understand um specifically for placer [0:15:34, 0:15:35]: uh retail analysis. [0:15:36, 0:15:38]: So it deals with um [0:15:38, 0:15:48]: It divides individuals or really cell phones into three categories. You can isolate just your residents. So I want to see the people who live in my area, where are they going to work? [0:15:48, 0:15:50]: Um what places do they shop at? [0:15:51, 0:15:55]: Um, if I just want to look at people who visit my area, uh whether it is the shop. [0:15:56, 0:15:57]: Or any other reason that somebody might visit. [0:15:57, 0:16:01]: Or if you just want to isolate it to employees, like where are my workers coming from? [0:16:02, 0:16:07]: Um and they give you the the favorite places, the trade areas, customer segmentation. [0:16:07, 0:16:10]: Uh, we can do leakage reports and a million other things. So [0:16:11, 0:16:13]: Uh, that's the context. [0:16:13, 0:16:13]: For it. [0:16:14, 0:16:15]: And [0:16:15, 0:16:20]: right away if if we look at the D DA, so these are sort of like rough boundaries and [0:16:20, 0:16:21]: If we just sort of [0:16:22, 0:16:26]: Look at all of the retail locations that Placer has in their database that are around it. [0:16:27, 0:16:28]: Um [0:16:28, 0:16:31]: The most active places is right here. [0:16:31, 0:16:32]: On this corridor. [0:16:32, 0:16:34]: All right. If you were to isolate just like the [0:16:35, 0:16:46]: most heavily trafficked single location. It's Maze Crossing, which it it's somewhere around here in this corner. I mean other shopping centers around here. I believe there's a Walmart around here as well. [0:16:47, 0:16:55]: Um inside the DDA, a lot of foot traffic happens primarily at Stockbridge Lakes, where there's I believe there's a publics that's that's pretty busy a lot. [0:16:55, 0:17:00]: Um and also Bridge Village Convenience Center down here. So that's high level overview. [0:17:01, 0:17:03]: Um of foot traffic in the area. [0:17:03, 0:17:05]: And again, right now I'm I'm just talking about visitors. [0:17:06, 0:17:08]: So not necessarily residents or workers. [0:17:08, 0:17:10]: Uh I I'll get to that later. [0:17:11, 0:17:12]: Okay, so that's high level stuff. [0:17:12, 0:17:17]: If we look at over time, just kind of weekly visits, people coming into that boundary. [0:17:18, 0:17:18]: Um [0:17:19, 0:17:22]: And this should say March twenty twenty two. Sorry, I did not update that label. [0:17:23, 0:17:31]: Um, but you can see this sustained trend. Um, it's slightly downward. You have your your huge COVID dip, right? That that basically every community has. [0:17:32, 0:17:36]: Um and then you have some uptick in the summer. Um [0:17:36, 0:17:44]: but not quite at the same levels that you were experiencing before um COVID hit, uh, which is a a pretty [0:17:44, 0:17:49]: common challenge that a lot of communities are struggling with because people have changed their behaviors. [0:17:49, 0:17:50]: Um [0:17:50, 0:17:51]: Just go over this happen. [0:17:51, 0:17:52]: Right. [0:17:53, 0:17:53]: So [0:17:54, 0:17:59]: Um, this is just another way to view the same information. So if we're just looking at total visits in a month. [0:17:59, 0:18:06]: and compare it to the same month two years ago. So talking again before COVID. This is a a a common question that we get. [0:18:07, 0:18:08]: Um, it's generally down. [0:18:09, 0:18:10]: Compared to [0:18:10, 0:18:11]: Uh, two years prior. [0:18:12, 0:18:14]: Right. So it's really just the same information as this. [0:18:15, 0:18:21]: Um, if we want to look at so the people who are coming into Stockbridge for a visit and and [0:18:22, 0:18:30]: You know, the term visit is pretty broad. A lot of times it means they're going for retail, right? Like a lot of people are coming into the area to shop at that public and then going back home. [0:18:30, 0:18:32]: But you can look at the [0:18:33, 0:18:34]: Uh home location. [0:18:35, 0:18:40]: Of where your visitors live. So many of them live locally, like in that that 30281 zip code. [0:18:41, 0:18:45]: Um and then a lot, you know, down South Metro, McDonough. [0:18:45, 0:18:46]: Um then east as well. [0:18:47, 0:18:51]: So we can get that breakdown and I just show the top seven zip codes. [0:18:51, 0:18:52]: Um [0:18:52, 0:18:55]: But if you wanted to go further with this analysis, you know, we could break out. [0:18:55, 0:18:58]: So like the top one hundred zippos and and where they're coming from, although [0:18:59, 0:19:00]: That would be kind of overkill. [0:19:01, 0:19:02]: Um [0:19:02, 0:19:04]: Yeah, uh Roger, you had a question? [0:19:05, 0:19:12]: Yeah, well it it's a a specific one and then generally, do you want us to ask questions as you go through the presentation or hold to the end? [0:19:13, 0:19:17]: Yes, please interrupt me as much as you can. I'm more than welcome. [0:19:18, 0:19:28]: I'm I'm curious what this of how the data is derived as far as how do you know where the people come from or where the visitors come from. Is this from like credit card sales or something? [0:19:29, 0:19:37]: No, so what Placer does, and I I'll go back here. So when they divide their people into these three categories. [0:19:37, 0:19:40]: They do that and they have they have a whole bunch of [0:19:40, 0:19:45]: um kind of dry statistical analyses where they they tested these things. But [0:19:45, 0:19:50]: Um they look at the patterns of the movements of their phones. [0:19:50, 0:20:02]: And are able to determine if someone is going to a place simply because they work there, right? So if it's they'll look at a phone over a two-week period and if they're going to a place for a set number of hours and then leaving and doing that consistently. [0:20:02, 0:20:04]: They'll categorize them as an employee. [0:20:05, 0:20:06]: Um [0:20:06, 0:20:10]: However, if they're going to a place and they're kind of staying there, particularly during nighttime hours. [0:20:10, 0:20:11]: Um [0:20:11, 0:20:13]: It'll be the pattern of a resident. [0:20:13, 0:20:15]: But if they're just coming in. [0:20:15, 0:20:19]: staying fifteen minutes or a couple hours and then leaving. [0:20:19, 0:20:22]: they'll categorize them as a visitor. So that's how they come to that determination. [0:20:23, 0:20:23]: Thank you. [0:20:25, 0:20:25]: Yeah. [0:20:27, 0:20:32]: Okay. Um so here's here's you know, a lot of the visitors live pretty locally. [0:20:33, 0:20:35]: Um and you can see [0:20:35, 0:20:37]: They also track these cell phones on [0:20:38, 0:20:43]: highways and roads so you can see like how busy corridors are. So the brighter the red, the more [0:20:44, 0:20:45]: This is vehicle traffic. [0:20:46, 0:20:46]: Um [0:20:47, 0:21:01]: And you see that corridor. So we saw at the beginning all of those retail locations up here on that edge that are very, very busy. Um, a lot of traffic coming in both directions. Um, I'm just showing you the routes that people are taking to get into the area. [0:21:02, 0:21:05]: But we can also swap this and see what roads are people taking to get out. [0:21:06, 0:21:07]: Of the D DA. [0:21:07, 0:21:08]: Um [0:21:08, 0:21:10]: I didn't include that map because it's pretty much identical. [0:21:10, 0:21:13]: Um they they look pretty much exactly the same. [0:21:13, 0:21:14]: Um [0:21:15, 0:21:16]: So we can get that information and [0:21:17, 0:21:23]: If y'all go down this road and want to you it can get extremely detailed of like how many cars [0:21:24, 0:21:30]: were traveling from this red light to this red light uh between twelve pm and two pm last Tuesday. [0:21:30, 0:21:33]: Um so we can get very, very specific. [0:21:33, 0:21:36]: uh if you actually need something like that. [0:21:38, 0:21:39]: Right. So [0:21:39, 0:21:48]: Um again you can isolate those things about and now I'm going to talk about residents specifically. So before I was talking about visitors, but now if we're just talking about residents in the area. [0:21:49, 0:21:53]: Um, we can also see the the areas in which they live and work. [0:21:54, 0:21:54]: Um [0:21:55, 0:21:56]: So [0:21:56, 0:21:58]: The residence [0:21:59, 0:22:03]: work either you know you have a a hot spot here downtown in midtown Atlanta. [0:22:04, 0:22:05]: And then most are working locally. [0:22:05, 0:22:06]: Or down in a dunno. [0:22:07, 0:22:10]: All right. Um if you want to look at not your residence. [0:22:10, 0:22:13]: All right, so this is like a misnomer. But if you want to look at the people who work [0:22:14, 0:22:15]: inside the DDA. [0:22:15, 0:22:16]: Um [0:22:17, 0:22:28]: They live, it's it's kind of a larger spread, but it's still located pretty locally. All right. So if I were to zoom in, which I can't because this this portion isn't interactive, but you have a huge blob right there. [0:22:28, 0:22:30]: Um in your local area. [0:22:30, 0:22:31]: So your workforce [0:22:32, 0:22:32]: Very local. [0:22:34, 0:22:34]: Right. [0:22:35, 0:22:36]: Um [0:22:36, 0:22:45]: One of the things that we get asked for a lot, and I would say primarily, this is this is the number one request that we get asked for with this this placer information, which is. [0:22:45, 0:22:51]: Yeah, people want to know if if if I draw up a boundary, whether it's the DDA or the entire city limits or or what have you. [0:22:51, 0:22:59]: Um, they want to know what types of shopping experiences are our residents l consistently leaving our area. [0:23:00, 0:23:01]: To go towards. [0:23:01, 0:23:02]: Um [0:23:02, 0:23:05]: And Placer can do that. So you can show a spread on a map. [0:23:06, 0:23:08]: And again, I'm isolating this just to residents. [0:23:08, 0:23:10]: People who live inside that area. [0:23:11, 0:23:11]: And [0:23:12, 0:23:14]: You can look at their favorite places to shop. [0:23:14, 0:23:15]: And [0:23:15, 0:23:20]: These are their favorite places, the residents' favorite places to shop, or the places they most commonly go to. [0:23:20, 0:23:21]: Um [0:23:21, 0:23:25]: Irregardless of any category. Uh yeah, Roger, c uh question. [0:23:26, 0:23:35]: When we're looking at residents as defined in this analysis, these are these are people who that live inside the downtown district. [0:23:36, 0:23:38]: Yeah, as as placers. [0:23:38, 0:23:39]: Categorizing them, yes. [0:23:39, 0:23:40]: Okay. [0:23:41, 0:23:42]: Yeah. Inside this [0:23:43, 0:23:58]: Yeah, and and I guess just it might might help you. I mean, in terms of looking at it, um, you know, the downtown district doesn't have a lot of residential. So it's it it I don't know whether that skews the results, you know, in in looking at it from this perspective. [0:23:59, 0:24:10]: Yeah, it might. So like you can see right away that your your total visitors are not huge, right? So like 333 residents go to the Walmart, which makes sense, right? Um [0:24:11, 0:24:11]: So [0:24:12, 0:24:16]: That being said, since it doesn't skew hugely like a residential area. [0:24:16, 0:24:17]: Um [0:24:17, 0:24:18]: Again, this [0:24:20, 0:24:28]: This presentation really is built to more to kind of demonstrate the kind of information that we can deliver you. So as you go down the road of like any specific challenges that you have. [0:24:28, 0:24:43]: We could do the same thing for you know visitors in the area or um employees in the area. We could expand this to like a five mile radius and do the same thing to see like, hey, what types of retail opportunities. [0:24:43, 0:24:46]: Are people going way over here for? [0:24:46, 0:24:49]: Which they might be able to do inside here. [0:24:50, 0:24:51]: Right. Um [0:24:51, 0:24:58]: So that that's a obviously a very important thing to keep in mind if it's not usually residential. So I would just look at this more as a demonstration and [0:24:59, 0:25:06]: we could use this and switch it to visitors or employees or change your geography to also get a better idea. [0:25:06, 0:25:07]: Right. [0:25:08, 0:25:10]: Uh but to demonstrate that, you know. [0:25:11, 0:25:12]: The places where they they shop. [0:25:13, 0:25:14]: You can see that list. [0:25:14, 0:25:25]: But if we're just using this as an example, you can go further and you can isolate that to specific categories. So you can see like where are people going to get groceries? [0:25:25, 0:25:36]: Um, where are they going to eat? And you can even isolate that from there. Like what are the fast food options in the area versus the full service dining restaurants in the area? [0:25:36, 0:25:37]: Um [0:25:38, 0:25:40]: So you you can do all of that information. [0:25:41, 0:25:41]: Um [0:25:43, 0:25:51]: This is something that we also get a lot of look for. So, what is the difference between supply and demand for a particular industry? [0:25:51, 0:25:54]: Um, and this is an example of using a larger geography. [0:25:55, 0:25:58]: Uh so instead of looking just at the area or just at residence. [0:25:59, 0:26:04]: Right now what I'm doing is I'm looking at the residents in these three rings. [0:26:04, 0:26:06]: So I'm looking at the residents in this one mile area. [0:26:06, 0:26:09]: residents in this three mile area and in the larger five mile area. [0:26:10, 0:26:11]: And [0:26:11, 0:26:12]: What Placer can do in [0:26:13, 0:26:16]: I hope you can see this. I I had to make it kind of small to squeeze them in. [0:26:17, 0:26:17]: But [0:26:18, 0:26:19]: What it can do is it can [0:26:20, 0:26:27]: Look at the spending patterns of the people in those areas and then also give you an estimate of the [0:26:27, 0:26:29]: businesses and the retail options in those areas. [0:26:30, 0:26:34]: And come up with an estimate of the demand for particular. [0:26:35, 0:26:39]: industries or products um and compare it to the the existing supply. [0:26:40, 0:26:44]: Um and see if you have any unmet demand or if you're oversupplied on something. [0:26:44, 0:26:47]: And I just pulled three different categories, right? [0:26:48, 0:26:48]: Um [0:26:49, 0:26:56]: And I apologize off the bat, this column is the one mile area, this is the three mile area, this is the five mile area, right? [0:26:56, 0:26:58]: So you can see that there's [0:26:59, 0:27:00]: Sorry about that. [0:27:01, 0:27:02]: You can see in that [0:27:03, 0:27:08]: really in all three of these areas, there is an unmet demand for, you know, groceries. [0:27:08, 0:27:11]: There's an unmet demand for full service restaurants. [0:27:11, 0:27:15]: However, when it comes to building material and supply dealers. [0:27:16, 0:27:16]: Um [0:27:17, 0:27:20]: you know, according to Placer, you're you're oversupplied, right? [0:27:20, 0:27:21]: На досторс. [0:27:22, 0:27:23]: Probably [0:27:23, 0:27:26]: Use a much larger geography, anyways. [0:27:26, 0:27:27]: Right. [0:27:27, 0:27:28]: Um [0:27:29, 0:27:30]: I think these are like [0:27:31, 0:27:32]: wholesale dealers for [0:27:33, 0:27:35]: the lows and home depots of the world. Um [0:27:36, 0:27:38]: So this kind of makes sense. [0:27:38, 0:27:40]: But you can do that for [0:27:41, 0:27:43]: I think there's like 30 different categories. [0:27:43, 0:27:48]: that you can identify where there's unmet demand. And right here there's just two of them. [0:27:49, 0:27:51]: In these three rings, um [0:27:51, 0:27:56]: So unmet demand for groceries, unmet demand for full service restaurants at all levels of geography. [0:27:57, 0:27:57]: Right. [0:27:59, 0:28:00]: I'll keep going here. So [0:28:01, 0:28:08]: Another thing we can do is, you know, I mentioned at the beginning that when we talk about the busiest place inside. [0:28:08, 0:28:09]: Um [0:28:09, 0:28:11]: The DDA inside those boundaries. [0:28:11, 0:28:18]: Um, the busiest place in terms of daily foot traffic or monthly foot traffic rather, uh, is that Stockbridge Lakes. [0:28:18, 0:28:19]: Shopping center. [0:28:19, 0:28:21]: Uh I believe it's like the north. [0:28:21, 0:28:22]: the northern edge. [0:28:23, 0:28:24]: Of that boundary. [0:28:24, 0:28:28]: And what you can do is you can look at the individual tenants. [0:28:29, 0:28:33]: I'm not super familiar with the shopping center, but Placer recognizes two of those tenants. [0:28:34, 0:28:35]: And [0:28:35, 0:28:37]: Both the publics and this car service shop. [0:28:38, 0:28:42]: um are extremely popular within their chain. [0:28:42, 0:28:45]: Um both locally, both nationally and within the state. [0:28:46, 0:28:49]: So if you if you look at this of the publics within Stockbridge Lakes. [0:28:50, 0:28:55]: um is within the 75th percentile of all publics in the country. [0:28:55, 0:29:02]: Right, which means there's more traffic going on at that public's than seventy five percent of all other publics in the nation. [0:29:03, 0:29:13]: All right. Um it's in the 85th percentile within Georgia. So again, that publics has more foot traffic at it than 85% of all publics within the state of Georgia. [0:29:13, 0:29:14]: Um [0:29:15, 0:29:16]: And [0:29:18, 0:29:20]: Or no, sorry. So it's seventy eight percent. [0:29:20, 0:29:22]: Of all publics. [0:29:22, 0:29:27]: It is more popular than eighty five percent of all grocery stores in the state of Georgia. [0:29:27, 0:29:28]: Um [0:29:28, 0:29:31]: So lots of traffic happening there and that kind of that that [0:29:32, 0:29:40]: Drives with what they estimate here is that there's you know unmet demand for grocery stores. So, like if you have one grocery store that's really, really popular in that area. [0:29:40, 0:29:41]: Um [0:29:41, 0:29:45]: It may signify that, you know, there's a need for maybe another grocery store. [0:29:46, 0:29:54]: All right. So Publix doing very well. Um, as well as I've never heard of um American Lube Fast, but they're also very, very popular. And there's lots of them too. [0:29:55, 0:29:56]: Um okay. [0:29:57, 0:29:57]: So [0:29:58, 0:29:59]: Well, thirty six. [0:30:00, 0:30:10]: So we can do that type of information really for any shopping center that you have either in the DDA or if you wanted to look at one outside of the DDA, you could do this same information. [0:30:10, 0:30:11]: Um [0:30:11, 0:30:21]: And use all of this stuff to kind of get of like, you know, what are our strengths, what are things that are or or potential opportunities based on the the habits of our visitors, et cetera. [0:30:22, 0:30:23]: Um [0:30:24, 0:30:25]: So we have that that ranking there. [0:30:26, 0:30:27]: And [0:30:27, 0:30:28]: We can also [0:30:29, 0:30:30]: Look at [0:30:30, 0:30:36]: So Placer also collects information about where current projects are in development, so construction projects. [0:30:37, 0:30:38]: As [0:30:38, 0:30:40]: You know, this I I just [0:30:40, 0:30:41]: Put this blob. [0:30:41, 0:30:45]: around the DDA so it's kind of hidden behind that orange thing. [0:30:46, 0:30:51]: But you can see sort of in the more immediate vicinity. So I think this is like within uh 15 miles, 10 to 15 miles. [0:30:52, 0:30:55]: You can see all of the construction projects that are in their various phases. [0:30:56, 0:31:00]: Um, so the ones that have recently been completed are these little gray. [0:31:00, 0:31:00]: Bubbles? [0:31:01, 0:31:01]: Um [0:31:02, 0:31:05]: The ones that are on hold or have been canceled are the little red ones. So there's only a couple of them. [0:31:06, 0:31:09]: Um, there are a lot of planned construction that's happening. [0:31:10, 0:31:13]: And there's quite a few current as well. Uh yes, Roger. [0:31:13, 0:31:19]: Does this include any kind of construction or specifically residential or certain type? [0:31:20, 0:31:26]: So that's a great question. So we can isolate that to any type. Um and I can actually [0:31:26, 0:31:27]: Show you the [0:31:28, 0:31:30]: Can use the interactive version here. [0:31:32, 0:31:33]: Well, you haven't. [0:31:34, 0:31:36]: Let's see area analysis. [0:31:43, 0:31:45]: Usually I I like doing the PDF because [0:31:45, 0:31:48]: You can see more because I don't know what screens people are on. [0:31:49, 0:31:49]: Um [0:31:50, 0:31:50]: But [0:31:51, 0:31:52]: Let me [0:31:53, 0:31:57]: Yeah, I can't make that full screen. So hopefully you can see this, but if I want to do the interactive version. [0:31:59, 0:32:01]: You can isolate this to various categories. [0:32:01, 0:32:05]: So like you said, you can isolate this to just residential planning projects. [0:32:07, 0:32:12]: So right here, here's your residential stuff. So a lot of planned projects happening like west of McDonough. [0:32:12, 0:32:14]: Lot of apartments, mixed use stuff. [0:32:15, 0:32:15]: Uh [0:32:16, 0:32:18]: Lots of stuff going on right around here. [0:32:19, 0:32:19]: Okay. [0:32:20, 0:32:20]: Um [0:32:21, 0:32:25]: I don't know the exact distance. I don't have my draw tools on here. [0:32:25, 0:32:26]: But again [0:32:27, 0:32:30]: got a lot of residents coming into to that northwest McDonough area. [0:32:31, 0:32:31]: Um [0:32:32, 0:32:37]: So that that's good information to have if they're building that much down there. But you can also idle isolate it to [0:32:38, 0:32:39]: Um [0:32:39, 0:32:40]: You know, hotels. [0:32:41, 0:32:46]: You can see not a lot of lot going in the way of hotels, but then retail is the biggest one that they they track. [0:32:46, 0:32:47]: Um [0:32:48, 0:32:49]: We're close. There's a [0:32:50, 0:32:53]: Just like a retail office that doesn't have a name yet. [0:32:53, 0:32:56]: Northwest of you, there's a convenience store that is unnamed. [0:32:56, 0:33:00]: So a lot of these things that are in the planning stages will be unnamed because [0:33:00, 0:33:02]: Whoever's developing it may not. [0:33:02, 0:33:04]: want it to be known yet that they're they're building something. [0:33:05, 0:33:06]: Um [0:33:07, 0:33:09]: If something just completed, there was the a dollar tree. [0:33:10, 0:33:13]: Old Kellytown Road publics or another publics. [0:33:13, 0:33:16]: Right. So we we can get all that information as well. [0:33:16, 0:33:16]: Um [0:33:17, 0:33:18]: So we have that also. [0:33:20, 0:33:21]: Go back to this guy. [0:33:22, 0:33:22]: Nope. [0:33:25, 0:33:26]: That one. Okay. [0:33:26, 0:33:27]: Um [0:33:28, 0:33:30]: So really to summarize and [0:33:30, 0:33:32]: You know, I I I try and keep it [0:33:32, 0:33:34]: Simple two examples because [0:33:35, 0:33:42]: Um, a Sharon can attest. Like, this is a rabbit hole that you could go down for like days. I mean, you could get lost in there forever. There's so much information. [0:33:43, 0:33:50]: So usually with these presentations, we like first to kind of demonstrate the potential of the tool, what type of information that it has. [0:33:50, 0:33:53]: And then it's really best suited when [0:33:54, 0:33:58]: You know, you start thinking of planning for your community. Um [0:33:58, 0:34:05]: Coming at this with sort of very specific questions in mind. And then we can get really down into the details. [0:34:06, 0:34:07]: Um [0:34:07, 0:34:11]: to be a bit more targeted in what types of data we deliver to you. [0:34:11, 0:34:11]: All right. [0:34:12, 0:34:14]: Um so again to put it in summary. [0:34:15, 0:34:21]: Very broadly, we use place where I AI can analyze the movements of populations, specifically residents, workers, or visitors. [0:34:22, 0:34:22]: Um [0:34:23, 0:34:26]: And then there's also, you know, potential opportunities for retail. [0:34:26, 0:34:27]: So you could combine [0:34:27, 0:34:30]: All these reports like that leakage analysis. [0:34:30, 0:34:31]: With that. [0:34:31, 0:34:36]: Market outlook combined with all of that residential development that's happening just south of you. [0:34:37, 0:34:44]: Um, all those things combined could be like a a a case for um attracting certain types of businesses. [0:34:44, 0:34:46]: Um to the DDA. [0:34:46, 0:34:47]: Right. So [0:34:48, 0:34:50]: That's Placer. That's how we use Placer. [0:34:50, 0:34:51]: And [0:34:51, 0:34:56]: Yeah, I mean if anybody has any questions, I've got it up so we can we can poke around. If you have questions I can [0:34:57, 0:34:58]: Try and answer them. [0:34:58, 0:34:59]: Um [0:34:59, 0:35:01]: Live, whatever y'all want to do. [0:35:04, 0:35:24]: Thank you, Mike. Anyone uh for me this is very exciting stuff. So I guess my my first question would be if we did want to take a deeper look at this and maybe even have a work session, is that a a service? I mean, is that something y'all would be available to us or any member of the DDA to to work with you and get more information about this? [0:35:24, 0:35:25]: Yeah. [0:35:25, 0:35:26]: Yeah. [0:35:26, 0:35:27]: Absolutely. [0:35:28, 0:35:35]: Just let us know um, you know, when we can get together, we can schedule something, and then you know, talk through the next steps and what we're looking for. [0:35:36, 0:35:56]: All right. And I guess the other thing I'll mention, and you heard the vote earlier, we've been engaging the uh Georgia Tech uh Innovation Institute. And um, you know, they were interested in seeing the Placer reports before, you know, well as we were working with them. So I know as they as we um now that we've got an approval to proceed, um, they may, you know. [0:35:56, 0:36:11]: I don't know whether they have direct access to this, or this is specifically with uh you know Southern Company or Georgia Power. Uh but if if they don't have direct access, they may ask for you know more detailed information as they as they as they prepare the analysis for the DDA. [0:36:14, 0:36:26]: Yeah, we we work with Georgia Tech a lot. We partner with them on a lot of different projects. Um a lot of people in our group are Georgia Tech alums. So you know, whatever whatever their process is, if they if they need to partner with somebody, uh [0:36:27, 0:36:30]: You know, definitely tell them to reach out to us. [0:36:30, 0:36:37]: Just provide provide our contact information or my name and then we can go from there and I can connect the dots what they need. [0:36:38, 0:36:40]: Excellent. Uh Lisa, I see you have your hand up. [0:36:42, 0:36:44]: Hi everyone. Um [0:36:44, 0:36:48]: Sharon and Michael, I just wanted to thank you. Um [0:36:48, 0:36:53]: I'm here tonight as a representative of the Main Street program here in Stockbridge. [0:36:54, 0:36:56]: And I thought this presentation was excellent. [0:36:57, 0:37:04]: Um, you know, we live in the community and lots of times we kind of think we know what our patterns are and what our neighbors are doing. [0:37:04, 0:37:05]: Um [0:37:06, 0:37:11]: But it's nice to get a digital impression and to realize. [0:37:11, 0:37:16]: The publics down the street from City Hall is one of the most public uh [0:37:17, 0:37:19]: I'd say popular publics. [0:37:19, 0:37:24]: In the state as well as the country based on what you've just described? [0:37:24, 0:37:30]: And the little um automotive shop, it's got a different name now and it's under different ownership. [0:37:31, 0:37:31]: Um [0:37:31, 0:37:35]: But that guy happens to be my mechanic. Um [0:37:35, 0:37:41]: Kui fun and he is excellent. And I think that's why his spot is so very popular. [0:37:42, 0:37:45]: Um, but of course, you know, we are trying to get. [0:37:45, 0:37:46]: Um [0:37:46, 0:37:51]: More activity in the heart of downtown, which is a couple blocks down. [0:37:52, 0:37:54]: Um in our historian [0:37:54, 0:38:13]: Our historic commercial district. And there is a grocery store there, but it's very old and it's very niche to like the old neighbors that have been here for like a hundred years. So, you know, it's interesting to see how we can maybe. [0:38:13, 0:38:17]: Persuade some of this population to move in that direction. [0:38:18, 0:38:19]: Thank you both. [0:38:19, 0:38:19]: Mm-hmm. [0:38:20, 0:38:21]: Glad to help. [0:38:23, 0:38:25]: Any other questions for um [0:38:26, 0:38:27]: For my course run. [0:38:28, 0:38:28]: Yes. [0:38:30, 0:38:31]: Go ahead, councilman. [0:38:32, 0:38:38]: Yeah, thank you all so much uh uh for for this presentation. It really was very informative. [0:38:38, 0:38:41]: And understand that from my side. [0:38:41, 0:38:50]: uh the you know we're looking for the sales pitch or the approach to potential businesses coming into the area so [0:38:50, 0:39:01]: If these numbers that you presented to us, they certainly do offer that to us and that the public's is a super draw in terms of foot traffic and [0:39:02, 0:39:03]: Uh I'm not sure. [0:39:04, 0:39:05]: If anybody [0:39:05, 0:39:10]: If I realize that, I'm not sure if anybody I know the public's was busy, but I did not know that [0:39:10, 0:39:13]: It would rank in the seventy five percentile. [0:39:13, 0:39:15]: uh so to speak in that [0:39:15, 0:39:16]: Um [0:39:16, 0:39:18]: It would be such a draw. [0:39:18, 0:39:22]: And I think the overall emphasis for us is the entire area. [0:39:22, 0:39:27]: So to understand that this area is doing well, it's an indicator. [0:39:27, 0:39:30]: Of what the people will support. [0:39:30, 0:39:31]: And I think uh [0:39:32, 0:39:34]: You know, Publix is not a discount brand. [0:39:34, 0:39:39]: You would think that between the two grocery stores with Food Depot being the discount brand, [0:39:39, 0:39:42]: And Publix being a a premium brand. [0:39:42, 0:39:44]: You might even think that. [0:39:44, 0:40:00]: those numbers might be different, but they're not. What they're clearly telling you is that there is a greater demand for quality uh in this area uh that Publix is offering. And uh we could basically work off of that uh to have uh [0:40:00, 0:40:04]: Tenants in that shopping center and the surrounding area realize [0:40:05, 0:40:12]: That uh there's an undead or unmet demand. And I noticed that uh again, it's not easy, it's easy for us to see. [0:40:13, 0:40:15]: That there is a unmet demand. [0:40:15, 0:40:21]: uh in terms of uh restaurants. It would be interesting to do these numbers to see [0:40:22, 0:40:24]: Uh you know, in overall [0:40:24, 0:40:33]: Uh regional spread, whereas we have an unmet demand in fine restaurants and uh quality shopping. [0:40:33, 0:40:35]: uh in the area in terms of um [0:40:36, 0:40:38]: Gar in terms of uh clothing and [0:40:39, 0:40:41]: And so to speak. So it'd be good to see [0:40:42, 0:40:46]: Exactly. And I know I've already seen it. I think most of us already know that there's a [0:40:47, 0:40:50]: There's uh millions of dollars if not a billion dollars. [0:40:50, 0:40:52]: Leaving this area. [0:40:52, 0:40:53]: To pursue. [0:40:54, 0:40:57]: uh fine restaurants and dining and um [0:40:58, 0:40:58]: Shopping. [0:40:59, 0:41:00]: And those are and entertainment. [0:41:01, 0:41:02]: For uh so to speak. [0:41:02, 0:41:05]: And I know these numbers certainly will be changing. [0:41:06, 0:41:08]: With the amphitheater in downtown with uh [0:41:08, 0:41:12]: That that that should be a a secondary uh another major draw. [0:41:13, 0:41:14]: Whereas the public's [0:41:14, 0:41:16]: itself is a daily draw. [0:41:16, 0:41:20]: So I just want to thank you for that. And then that my question in all of that was [0:41:21, 0:41:23]: uh ру to be able to do this. [0:41:23, 0:41:26]: uh in a regional type situation is see [0:41:26, 0:41:32]: when uh Stockbridge residents or Henry County residents in general are leaving where they're going. [0:41:35, 0:41:44]: So I think we do have some limitations on the um the geographic territory. Mike, you have to correct me if I'm wrong. So [0:41:45, 0:41:47]: What's the mile radius that we could actually? [0:41:49, 0:41:50]: In common. [0:41:50, 0:41:52]: total, how far reach could we go? [0:41:55, 0:41:57]: Well, I mean you can go pretty far, but [0:41:59, 0:42:05]: You know, the struggle is you you don't actually want to go too far. You don't want too big of an area because once you get further and further closer to like [0:42:06, 0:42:08]: You have downtown and [0:42:08, 0:42:13]: You know, eventually you get to like College Park, then you get to like city limits of Atlanta. The further you get there, [0:42:13, 0:42:14]: Um [0:42:15, 0:42:16]: You're starting to [0:42:17, 0:42:28]: It it muddies the waters so much because you're including so many people from so many areas. It's tough to know, like, are they actually coming anywhere towards Stockbridge anyways? It all just kind of gets lumped together. [0:42:29, 0:42:30]: Uh [0:42:30, 0:42:30]: [2551.0, 2552.7]: But we can slice it and dice it pretty much. [0:42:33, 0:42:37]: Any way you want. Uh there there are some some creative ways to approach [0:42:37, 0:42:39]: Um any solution. [0:42:40, 0:42:42]: I think for our standpoint is that [0:42:42, 0:42:46]: It it would be in reverse. It wasn't be the residents that are coming to Stockbridge. [0:42:47, 0:42:49]: It would be where are our residents going? [0:42:50, 0:42:52]: Because our residents are going [0:42:52, 0:42:53]: Places for [0:42:53, 0:42:54]: Fine dining. [0:42:55, 0:42:57]: better shopping options and entertainment so [0:42:58, 0:43:00]: The goal would be to see where [0:43:00, 0:43:03]: When people leave Henry County or Stockbridge. [0:43:03, 0:43:08]: where they're going, not versus someone coming in, because we need [0:43:08, 0:43:09]: Those needs met. [0:43:10, 0:43:13]: And the attempt is to show these businesses. [0:43:13, 0:43:14]: How many? [0:43:14, 0:43:17]: People are leaving these com leaving our community. [0:43:18, 0:43:20]: uh to pursue the entertainment [0:43:20, 0:43:21]: Uh, the shopping. [0:43:22, 0:43:23]: Uh and the fine dining. [0:43:24, 0:43:36]: And to say, okay, look at this percentage of of residents that d that and the unmet demand that are just taking millions of dollars out of this community. [0:43:38, 0:43:39]: Yeah, um [0:43:39, 0:43:44]: Sorry, I I guess I I misunderstood your initial question, but yeah, we could do exactly that. So for example [0:43:45, 0:43:56]: You know, maybe the the the DDA boundaries itself might be too limiting because there isn't a ton of residential in there. But we could do this same type of thing, right? So this is asking the question, where do our residents eat? [0:43:57, 0:44:01]: But you'll see there's so there's so few of them to begin with that this might not be relevant information. [0:44:02, 0:44:04]: We could expand this to [0:44:05, 0:44:13]: But we could play around with it. I I I I think the city limits of Stockbridge might be too large for Placer, but you could definitely put a bigger area around that. [0:44:13, 0:44:27]: Um and you can also isolate this to like right here. I I I included all the fast food restaurants. Um, but I could include it to you know fine dining full service restaurants and do the same thing. So yeah, you're exactly right. We can do that. [0:44:27, 0:44:30]: Yeah, that that would be extremely helpful when we um [0:44:31, 0:44:33]: We're talking to potential business. [0:44:33, 0:44:37]: uh prospects and we can show them this data. [0:44:37, 0:44:46]: And then uh of course I'm certainly gonna start using that public data immediately when I'm talking to prospects because uh again. [0:44:46, 0:44:47]: It relates to [0:44:48, 0:44:52]: uh what they're doing and then these numbers are compared to other public [0:44:52, 0:44:54]: uh in the nation because I would have thought [0:44:54, 0:44:57]: The the Eagles Landing Parkway. [0:44:57, 0:45:00]: What the it may not have been in the study area would have been [0:45:01, 0:45:11]: uh would have been in there. And it may very well be because it I guess it wasn't you were looking at the downtown uh boundary area, but that number is a whopping number. Yeah. [0:45:13, 0:45:13]: Yeah. [0:45:15, 0:45:18]: But I think we have a question somewhere. I can't remember where the ham was. [0:45:18, 0:45:20]: Lisa, I think Lisa. [0:45:20, 0:45:20]: Yeah. [0:45:21, 0:45:22]: Hi again, thank you. [0:45:23, 0:45:23]: Um [0:45:24, 0:45:27]: Well, I guess my mind is going through a a lot of different thoughts, but um [0:45:28, 0:45:31]: I wanted to talk about the public's plaza for a moment. So [0:45:32, 0:45:32]: Um [0:45:33, 0:45:36]: Is if if I'm understanding what you've presented. [0:45:36, 0:45:38]: And and your um language behind it. [0:45:39, 0:45:43]: Publix is popular because it's kind of the only game in town. [0:45:44, 0:45:47]: Am I right about that? I mean, we know that we've got a food depot. [0:45:48, 0:45:53]: um a couple of miles away, really just down the road, about two minutes, but um [0:45:54, 0:46:01]: It like I said, it's kind of niche and it's very old. So if someone wanted a modern supermarket, [0:46:01, 0:46:04]: Um with a fresh look, they would go to publics. [0:46:04, 0:46:05]: Um [0:46:05, 0:46:06]: I [0:46:06, 0:46:08]: I'd say that to say [0:46:08, 0:46:12]: Um we were considering in in the main street district. [0:46:12, 0:46:14]: Seeing if we could get [0:46:14, 0:46:20]: Food depot to do some updates to its current store. That happens to be their flagship store. [0:46:20, 0:46:21]: Um [0:46:21, 0:46:25]: And a lot of their other stores are newer and in better condition. [0:46:25, 0:46:26]: Um [0:46:26, 0:46:27]: But [0:46:27, 0:46:29]: I think that maybe. [0:46:30, 0:46:33]: Publix is the only game in town for someone who wants. [0:46:33, 0:46:36]: a little bit more of modern shopping. [0:46:36, 0:46:38]: That being said. [0:46:38, 0:46:38]: Um [0:46:39, 0:46:42]: The public's plaza is not necessarily the best place to. [0:46:43, 0:46:49]: Fill in the real estate. Um, there are lots of suites there that have been empty for quite some time. [0:46:49, 0:46:52]: Um, and we have done the Main Street program. [0:46:52, 0:46:55]: Has been involved with some of the tenants there. [0:46:56, 0:47:00]: There was a s a business that opened a couple of years ago. [0:47:00, 0:47:02]: That was similar to um [0:47:03, 0:47:05]: Oh gosh, I guess like a five below. [0:47:06, 0:47:11]: Um, but it did not do very well in that location and the rent was extremely high. [0:47:12, 0:47:12]: Um [0:47:12, 0:47:14]: There was um [0:47:14, 0:47:20]: A gym, a fitness center that was there, very nice, very new. [0:47:20, 0:47:25]: Um, but it did not do very well there. There was a restaurant up at the front end. [0:47:25, 0:47:30]: Several years ago, it did not do well. There's a new restaurant in that space. [0:47:30, 0:47:32]: As of about a year ago. [0:47:32, 0:47:34]: I don't see a lot of cars in the front there. [0:47:34, 0:47:38]: So people are coming there to get groceries and go home. [0:47:39, 0:47:41]: Oh, and get their cars worked on. And that's about it. [0:47:43, 0:47:50]: Do you have any um insight in regards to the issues? Do you you have any underlying data as to what to why? [0:47:51, 0:47:53]: It nothing really does well there. [0:47:54, 0:47:55]: Is it the area, the [0:47:56, 0:47:58]: Yes, um so [0:47:59, 0:48:05]: The Main Street program has a partnership with the local Small Business Development Center at Clayton State University. [0:48:06, 0:48:08]: And we've asked [0:48:08, 0:48:12]: Our colleague there to work with um [0:48:12, 0:48:15]: Some of the business owners that we just mentioned. [0:48:15, 0:48:22]: Um, and of course, I I don't know a lot of their data that only SBDC would be privy to. [0:48:22, 0:48:30]: Um, but basically those businesses were not necessarily the best suited to be in that particular suite. [0:48:31, 0:48:35]: Especially because um I guess for the five below guy. [0:48:35, 0:48:37]: Um, he thought if people were [0:48:37, 0:48:41]: Going into publics that they put their groceries away and then come and shop with him. [0:48:42, 0:48:46]: But some of the items he was selling they sell it publics. [0:48:46, 0:48:50]: And it was more convenient for them to just buy it while they were in publics. [0:48:51, 0:48:51]: Um [0:48:52, 0:49:04]: And I think, you know, people were people hardly noticed it. You know, we had him put balloons out. We had him do all these different things and they're like, yo, I'm going to get my milk and bread and my pharmacy items and I'm getting back in the car. [0:49:04, 0:49:08]: And that was it. You know, there just wasn't a lot of um [0:49:08, 0:49:13]: activity there's a nail shop that's been there for a long time um a [0:49:13, 0:49:15]: Chinese takeout. [0:49:15, 0:49:16]: Um a hair cuttery. [0:49:17, 0:49:20]: А популярна чай. [0:49:20, 0:49:22]: And a dry cleaner. Those are the only [0:49:23, 0:49:27]: Businesses that have been mainstays in that plaza. [0:49:27, 0:49:32]: All the rest, um, it's either empty or it cycles out within a couple of months. [0:49:34, 0:49:36]: You know one thing I'll say. [0:49:36, 0:49:48]: Sorry about that. One thing I'll say about that shopping center specifically is again, you know, Placer only recognizes those two locations as chains that it has information on. [0:49:48, 0:50:00]: However, if if y'all have like a site map of it where you you know the the individual, the other chains that are in the locations and also which locations are currently um like vacant. [0:50:01, 0:50:02]: What we can do is we can number one. [0:50:03, 0:50:10]: Upload that to Placer and then they can track the information to all of your other chains, not just those two. So they could isolate every single one. [0:50:11, 0:50:13]: But then the other one thing that they can do is um [0:50:14, 0:50:16]: Placer has a product called void analysis. [0:50:17, 0:50:23]: Where what it will do is it will look at the demographics of the the customers going to that shopping center. [0:50:23, 0:50:26]: They'll look at the current tenants in the shopping center, in this case the Publix. [0:50:27, 0:50:31]: And uh look at the square footage of space you have available in any [0:50:32, 0:50:34]: Of of your other tenants if there's vacants. [0:50:34, 0:50:35]: Vacancies. [0:50:35, 0:50:36]: Um [0:50:37, 0:50:48]: And they'll look at every chain across America that they track stuff with and find similar chains and sort of give you a ranking of like which ones they think would actually work at this location based on all that information. [0:50:48, 0:50:51]: Um so we could do that as like a starting point. [0:50:51, 0:50:57]: Of saying like, hey, these types of businesses might be good ones to target, um, to convince to come in. [0:50:58, 0:51:02]: to this shopping center. So that's something that we could do. We would just need a a bit more detailed information. [0:51:04, 0:51:05]: Sir. [0:51:05, 0:51:06]: Thank you. [0:51:07, 0:51:08]: Oh I just [0:51:09, 0:51:11]: Let let me just say this. [0:51:11, 0:51:14]: I think exactly what we just heard is [0:51:15, 0:51:17]: The dollar the dollar store didn't work. [0:51:17, 0:51:19]: I'm not surprised. [0:51:19, 0:51:23]: They're next to Publix, which is a quality retailer. [0:51:23, 0:51:40]: And you're gonna buy you're gonna go to Publix, a quality retailer and buy cheap stuff next door, you're not gonna do that. You're gonna you if you look in their publix, public shoppers are looking for quality. And when quality businesses locate in Stockbridge Lakes, they will do well. [0:51:41, 0:51:50]: If you open up a nice ice cream shop there, you open up a business, but you're gonna have to do it right because that public shopper is distinguishing. [0:51:51, 0:51:55]: That's why those other businesses may not have succeeded. But in the end. [0:51:56, 0:51:57]: My job is to [0:51:57, 0:51:59]: Is to present [0:52:00, 0:52:01]: The glass half full. [0:52:02, 0:52:03]: And to present [0:52:03, 0:52:19]: the area in a way that I want businesses to come in. I don't want to tell them everybody close and don't come. I want to tell them the success story is is if you act execute it correctly and you all of this foot traffic is around you. [0:52:20, 0:52:21]: All you can do. [0:52:22, 0:52:27]: as a business owner or is uh as as as a uh developer. [0:52:27, 0:52:29]: is to have a anchor tenant [0:52:30, 0:52:31]: in that development. [0:52:31, 0:52:33]: That people are coming to. [0:52:34, 0:52:35]: If you don't succeed. [0:52:36, 0:52:41]: at this location where publics is is not is not them is you [0:52:42, 0:52:46]: Because in the end, the foot traffic is there. [0:52:46, 0:52:52]: It's gotta be something going on in there. Uh, years ago there was a restaurant. [0:52:52, 0:52:55]: uh that was out front tulipies to lu to lupies [0:52:56, 0:52:58]: Tulipees restaurant that was out front. [0:52:58, 0:53:01]: It was a restaurant where you could sit down and eat. [0:53:01, 0:53:03]: But it wasn't run very well. [0:53:04, 0:53:07]: And publics is demands those. [0:53:07, 0:53:10]: Uh those standards and the people that go to publics. [0:53:10, 0:53:13]: They're looking for quality. [0:53:13, 0:53:15]: in everything that they do. [0:53:15, 0:53:17]: Now with these numbers that I have today. [0:53:18, 0:53:20]: And the numbers that we have. [0:53:20, 0:53:23]: Certainly, I think one of the main issues is that [0:53:24, 0:53:29]: I don't I don't see as a realtor, I don't see hardly any marketing for stock bridge lakes. [0:53:30, 0:53:38]: And I certainly don't see any marketing on pop on part of the city, even though this is in our entire downtown area. [0:53:38, 0:53:56]: We focus more on the strip, which is Martin Luther King Sr. Jr., which is the historic downtown. But my eyes, we need to be focusing on the whole thing because the people are telling us where they want to be. We can't tell them where we want them to be. They're telling us where they want to be. [0:53:56, 0:54:12]: But all of us who sit on this DDA board have to understand those dynamics. The pub the public's shopping center is telling us, the customers are telling us very loudly and clearly with the money. [0:54:12, 0:54:16]: And with their foot traffic where they want to be. [0:54:16, 0:54:18]: And what they will support. [0:54:18, 0:54:19]: Because [0:54:19, 0:54:22]: Uh there's been a misnomer that okay, well if you put [0:54:22, 0:54:24]: Nice things downtown. [0:54:24, 0:54:28]: then uh you know will will pup people pay a little bit more. [0:54:28, 0:54:34]: You can go to Walmart and get the product for a lot less, but you can't get that same service at public. [0:54:34, 0:54:36]: And you can't get the same quality. [0:54:36, 0:54:38]: So what I'm saying to us is that [0:54:39, 0:54:41]: We gotta look at the whole pie. [0:54:41, 0:54:43]: in terms of where we're going. [0:54:43, 0:54:46]: in terms of the entire downtown area. [0:54:47, 0:54:50]: The historic area and the new DDA map. [0:54:51, 0:54:53]: With all of it coming together because [0:54:54, 0:54:57]: We got we can't try to dictate to the folks what they're gonna do. [0:54:57, 0:54:59]: They're gonna tell us what [0:54:59, 0:55:00]: What's working? [0:55:01, 0:55:04]: They've also told us they like the amphitheater. [0:55:04, 0:55:10]: There were many people who said, don't spend that much money in downtown. Spend$23 million on this project. [0:55:11, 0:55:13]: And four thousand people showed up in the first. [0:55:13, 0:55:15]: Iteration of that. [0:55:15, 0:55:18]: There are indicators that we have to pay attention to. [0:55:19, 0:55:22]: When the quality comes, they shows up show up. [0:55:22, 0:55:25]: And the reason that I focused on the seventy five percent. [0:55:26, 0:55:46]: The 75% number didn't have anything to do with Stockbridge. It had to do with publics. It's in the 75%ile nationally with publics. So that tells you it's not just the stock bridge, it's not just uh doing well just for stock bridge, or this is not doing well just for the downtown. [0:55:46, 0:55:51]: house Doc Bridge area is doing well period at the 75%ile. [0:55:52, 0:55:58]: Thank you, Councilman. Um, so uh are there any other questions for uh Mike and Sharon? [0:55:59, 0:56:19]: I I think where I'd like to leave it is um let's collect any ideas that we have for further analysis and then collect those to you can send them to me and Alan Peterson and we'll send them off to um, you know, maybe I would I would suggest we even coordinate with the Georgia Tech team and then maybe have a working session with any [0:56:19, 0:56:29]: additional analysis that we might want to uh pursue. Uh Alan, do you have your hand raised? Go ahead. Yes. [0:56:29, 0:56:33]: Mike and Sharon, uh this was was needed and we greatly appreciate it. [0:56:34, 0:56:38]: And we look forward to getting back with you with some more detailed requests. [0:56:38, 0:56:44]: And also connecting you with Georgia Tech for our study. But um but like Councilmember Alexander said. [0:56:45, 0:56:50]: Um we need we do need to better do a better job of marketing that area because that's where the people want to be. [0:56:50, 0:56:54]: And uh that's one of the reasons for our social media campaign. [0:56:54, 0:56:55]: Um [0:56:55, 0:56:58]: that that firm that we bring in. [0:56:58, 0:57:02]: Will help us market the entire DDA and not just that main street. [0:57:03, 0:57:14]: downtown DDA area that we oftentimes focus on. Additionally, dealing with the the um the publics, there is a a a baseball field right across from that. [0:57:14, 0:57:16]: And that attracts children. [0:57:16, 0:57:18]: And that's another reason. So [0:57:18, 0:57:20]: It it it should be [0:57:21, 0:57:23]: uh easy for us to take advantage. [0:57:23, 0:57:24]: Of that of that area. [0:57:25, 0:57:28]: Mm-hmm. Thank thank you, Sharon and Mike. I I really appreciate it. [0:57:29, 0:57:38]: Thank you. And y'all are welcome to stay for the rest of the meeting, uh, but we're gonna move on with our agenda. So thank you again for your for the analysis and for uh taking your questions. [0:57:39, 0:57:40]: Thanks for having us, everybody. [0:57:41, 0:58:01]: Great segue, Mr. Peterson. So uh as far as the social social media campaign and request for proposal. So uh Alan and uh you know uh due to uh Councilman Alexander's um uh request and leadership, we've we've pers we we've put out a request for proposal for a social media campaign manager, so a firm that will help us [0:58:01, 0:58:21]: um market the downtown district. And so I'd like to ask for help from this team, the DDA team, to help evaluate the proposals. So I'm looking for um two to three members of the DDA that would be willing to review the proposals and [0:58:21, 0:58:38]: make a decision and and help um you know um recommend a decision to the DDA board as far as which one we would go with. So um you can either speak up now if you have any questions or let me know via email as far as uh who you if you'd be willing to uh serve on the evaluation team. [0:58:42, 0:58:48]: Roger, I I don't have any particular expertise as far as social media. I'm not on Facebook and Twitter and all that, but [0:58:49, 0:58:51]: I I I'd you know, I'd be happy to help. [0:58:52, 0:58:53]: Thank you. Appreciate that, Bob. [0:58:54, 0:58:55]: Roger? [0:58:55, 0:58:56]: Roger. [0:58:56, 0:58:58]: Yes. If I could um [0:58:59, 0:59:00]: I I want everyone to know that um [0:59:01, 0:59:05]: You know, you don't you don't need to be be an expert on social media. Um [0:59:06, 0:59:10]: When when these firms apply, you'll look at their presentation. [0:59:10, 0:59:14]: And um you look at their past work, that's a large component. [0:59:14, 0:59:20]: of of of the application of the scoring process. That's a that's a hefty percentage. So [0:59:20, 0:59:25]: Um, you could look at their past work and you can relate their past work to what we want done. [0:59:25, 0:59:34]: And our DDA. So you don't have to be an expert. You don't even need a Twitter or Facebook. Um, if if you like what they've done in the past and it's worked. [0:59:35, 0:59:37]: And you think that it fits what we're trying to do. [0:59:37, 0:59:41]: in um in our DDA, then you can you can be on the board. [0:59:41, 0:59:42]: Well [0:59:43, 0:59:47]: I certainly would uh you just uh to to evaluate the committee. [0:59:48, 0:59:49]: Uh not actually. [0:59:49, 0:59:53]: Uh just evaluate the committee. Oh to evaluate the uh [0:59:53, 0:59:55]: Potential uh vendor. Yeah. [0:59:55, 0:59:56]: Thank you, Councilmember. [0:59:58, 1:00:00]: Roger, this is Barber. I like to be on that committee as well. [1:00:01, 1:00:03]: Thank you, Barber. I appreciate that. [1:00:04, 1:00:24]: All right. And if any others are interested, we welcome the uh participation. And um once we get the responses back, then I'll I'll I'll share that with anyone who's expressed their interest. Um so that moves us to the next um we're kind of uh to the officers and city uh staff report. So just a few comments. Um first of all, um [1:00:24, 1:00:31]: Vanessa, have you received any applicants yet for the uh open position with the DDA? [1:00:32, 1:00:34]: We received [1:00:34, 1:00:39]: An application for the citywide but not specifically for the DDA, no. [1:00:41, 1:01:00]: Okay, so I guess uh a note to everyone who's listening, please um uh see if there's anyone who meets the criteria for the DDA. They need to either um manage or own a business in the downtown district or be a resident of the city at large. Um Barber, you have your hand up. [1:01:02, 1:01:04]: You to are we do we have one board? [1:01:05, 1:01:06]: See to feel or two. [1:01:07, 1:01:09]: Uh just the one. Just the one, okay. [1:01:10, 1:01:10]: Yes. [1:01:11, 1:01:12]: Excuse me. [1:01:13, 1:01:22]: Yes, councilman. Mr. Peterson, and I'm I and I'm just sitting here drawing a blank. The financial company that we just uh had the ribbon cutting for. [1:01:23, 1:01:25]: What's their name? I'm sorry. I just [1:01:31, 1:01:32]: You mute it. [1:01:36, 1:01:38]: Uh I need I need to check. [1:01:38, 1:01:53]: I think that's Indigo Financial. Yeah, in Indigo, yeah. Right. I I just I was drawing a blank, thank you. We certainly should reach out to Indigo Financial. They're they've indicated that you know they have an office in Alpharetta. They have a off and they chose us. [1:01:53, 1:01:56]: Specifically because of what was going on with the amphitheater. [1:01:57, 1:01:59]: And they're planning on having a concert. [1:02:00, 1:02:09]: Inviting all of their prospects, three thousand of them to the amphitheater. Imagine what that'll look like and how many business people that could actually invest in us. [1:02:10, 1:02:12]: I'm sure they would be an asset. [1:02:12, 1:02:15]: uh to this board to have somebody from that company [1:02:15, 1:02:17]: uh working on the D VA. [1:02:18, 1:02:20]: Thank you. So Mr. Peterson, can you reach out to them? [1:02:21, 1:02:21]: And see. [1:02:22, 1:02:23]: Yeah, that would be possible. [1:02:24, 1:02:25]: Oh, definitely. [1:02:26, 1:02:28]: Thank you, Councilman. That's a great suggestion. [1:02:29, 1:02:49]: All right, um a couple more announcements. So the AARF, so the annual authority registration and financials, this is a required report for all authorities uh statewide to submit a report uh to the Department of Community Affairs. Um we had fulfilled that uh that commitment for uh 2020. [1:02:49, 1:03:09]: In 2021, but I learned that the prior reports were not submitted by the DDA, the Stockbridge DDA. I'm still in the process of completing that, and but I do wanna make known that that is in process. I've gotten the information just this morning. [1:03:09, 1:03:29]: um to help prepare the financial reports and thank you Vanessa for the information you provided on the uh officer training and the board members uh at that time so i believe i have the information i need to uh prepare that and i'll be doing that within a week um barber of course uh bob and barber i'll share with you uh any submissions that we make [1:03:29, 1:03:49]: So that they can become part of the record. Just as a note, that is a prerequisite before we can take advantage of the revolving loan fund. That was the presentation that DCA gave to this board in our February meeting. So once that's in place, I believe we should be good to go as far as participating in that. [1:03:49, 1:04:09]: program. Um just a couple of uh housekeeping uh oh no uh before I move on to that uh we did get a uh quit claim deed and affidavit uh there was apparently a boundary um misunderstanding or dispute regarding the uh property [1:04:09, 1:04:29]: Sale that was uh sold uh last year by the DDA to uh Sylvain. Um I have sent that over to our attorney to review, and uh once we get their uh comments or feedback, we'll be getting that back and straightening that out as quickly as possible. Um, next item uh we I sent out [1:04:29, 1:04:49]: A note to everyone regarding the the the the city is looking so the city is looking for feedback and participation either in a steering committee or in a focus group for the park systems master plan for the city of Stockbridge. Um I sent out a flyer. [1:04:48, 1:05:08]: And I think the deadline is this week. I want to say tomorrow or by Friday of this week. Um, and I I encourage you to participate in either, is either on the focus group or the steering committee or both. Um uh this is uh an important way of uh lending your voice as to how the [1:05:08, 1:05:28]: Park system for City of Stockbridge will be designed. Here are the housekeeping notes. So I did receive a and deposited a$25 option money that was received in the mail at City Hall that got deposited to our operating account. This was the option money for the same Sylvain. [1:05:28, 1:05:48]: Land deal that was done last year in April. Um, and I've received a new debit card for our tourist account, which I'm going to be sending over to our treasurer uh for her to manage. Uh thank you, Barber. And then lastly, I did receive uh the official DDA stamp, uh, which we found. [1:05:48, 1:06:06]: during last year's uh deal that the DDA needed and did not have an official stamp to sign official documentation. That's been received and I've uh left that at City Hall to keep with the official um DDA records. Any questions on anything I've covered so far? [1:06:07, 1:06:27]: All right. That that's all the items I wanted to share with everyone. So uh next on the agenda is to uh meet our new city manager, Frederick Gardner. Um Mr. Gardner, thanks for joining our meeting. I think I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Yes, sir. Before we move on real quick, is the this port report that we just saw going [1:06:27, 1:06:40]: to be sent out to us or for our review. And thank you. I meant to ask that while they were on the phone, but I will follow up with them following the meeting to see if they can send us a copy of that presentation that Mike prepared. [1:06:41, 1:06:44]: Was Sharon still I'll see her? Is she still there? [1:06:45, 1:06:48]: I don't see that she is. [1:06:50, 1:06:54]: Oh yes, yes, you're still in call. But she is there. [1:06:55, 1:06:57]: She's just muted. [1:07:00, 1:07:02]: We'll follow request that. [1:07:07, 1:07:13]: All right, I but I do see that um uh Mr. Gardner has dropped. [1:07:13, 1:07:28]: Um, I know I know the presentation took a little longer than expected. So um I think we'll move on to the next item on the agenda. We've already covered the treasurer's report, so I'll move on to uh Secretary's updates. So Bob, do you have anything you want to share with the group? [1:07:28, 1:07:30]: Uh no, not at this time. [1:07:30, 1:07:43]: All right, that brings us to the um Main Street Advisory Board updates. Um Lisa, I see you are here. Um I'll I'll go to you first and then Barber, if you have anything to add, of course you'll have the floor. Go ahead, Lisa. [1:07:44, 1:08:04]: Okay, thank you. Um I have a couple of items. Um the first item is not actually in the Main Street district or have anything to do with the downtown, but just something for our citywide knowledge. Um on this past Friday, there was a ribbon cutting for Argento at the bridges. [1:08:04, 1:08:09]: Um, I'm not sure. I don't remember if I saw any of you there, but um it is [1:08:09, 1:08:10]: Um [1:08:10, 1:08:11]: It's [1:08:11, 1:08:16]: It's a construction project that will be going on near the bridges at Jodico. [1:08:16, 1:08:26]: And um from what I understand, it's a mixed use development of three hundred six apartment units. It's six thousand uh square feet. It will have [1:08:26, 1:08:30]: Сікс та сквер фіт вoutique retail space as well. So [1:08:31, 1:08:34]: The city is very happy to have that project underway. [1:08:34, 1:08:38]: Um and then I've got a few other items that are more downtown specific. [1:08:40, 1:08:41]: Thank you. [1:08:41, 1:08:41]: Okay. [1:08:42, 1:08:42]: Um [1:08:43, 1:08:45]: So I will um [1:08:45, 1:08:47]: Offer you our mission statement. [1:08:47, 1:08:54]: Um, the Stockbridge Main Street program's mission is to design and support an identifiable downtown historic district. [1:08:54, 1:09:03]: That promotes economic vitality, cultivates artistic expression, encourages cultural enrichment, and nurtures community spirit. [1:09:04, 1:09:09]: Um we have our April meeting date, which will be the third Friday, April fifteenth. [1:09:10, 1:09:13]: Um, we would have normally had it on the second Friday. [1:09:14, 1:09:19]: But um the eighth is during the Henry County Schools spring break. So we've moved that date. [1:09:20, 1:09:21]: Um [1:09:22, 1:09:25]: In addition to that, the Ted Strickland building. [1:09:25, 1:09:28]: Um a contractor has been selected. [1:09:28, 1:09:31]: And the contract has gone through to our legal department. [1:09:31, 1:09:37]: Um, we are waiting for that to be cleared to go onto the calendar for the upcoming city council meeting. [1:09:38, 1:09:41]: Also for the Berk Street Alleyway project. [1:09:41, 1:09:42]: Um [1:09:42, 1:09:51]: The city attorneys are working on the necessary easements to the properties that are attached to that driveway and alleyway. [1:09:52, 1:09:57]: Um, once this is done, we can start the bidding process to find contractors to do the work. [1:09:58, 1:09:59]: Okay. [1:09:59, 1:10:03]: Um if anybody hasn't noticed, there is a downtown [1:10:04, 1:10:06]: Sewer work project going on. [1:10:06, 1:10:11]: This will be a 60-day project that is being managed by the city's wastewater department. [1:10:12, 1:10:23]: The project will require street closures and detours. The work will impact downtown and the residential area along Burke Street, MLK. [1:10:23, 1:10:26]: Love Street, Jim Clark Drive, and Davis Road. [1:10:27, 1:10:31]: Also the MLK Streetscape um [1:10:31, 1:10:37]: Has recently had a power washing project that was completed last week. Maybe you guys. [1:10:37, 1:10:41]: Got to notice that it's brighter over there in our [1:10:41, 1:10:45]: Um little half wall is not as dingy. [1:10:45, 1:10:48]: Um also um just a couple more. [1:10:49, 1:10:50]: Quick things. [1:10:51, 1:10:53]: Actually just one more. Um [1:10:54, 1:10:56]: So the small business Saturday. [1:10:57, 1:10:58]: Слеш [1:10:58, 1:11:03]: A small business blitz for Stockbridge was very successful last year. [1:11:03, 1:11:07]: Um, I think everyone noticed that we did a couple of things differently. [1:11:08, 1:11:10]: Um, because of the pandemic, we [1:11:10, 1:11:13]: Decided it was a good idea to um [1:11:13, 1:11:16]: Стречне проєктн кампін паст. [1:11:17, 1:11:18]: The one Saturday in November. [1:11:19, 1:11:21]: Um and I we got a lot of good feedback. [1:11:21, 1:11:26]: We made it the entire month of November. And as always, we encourage everyone to [1:11:26, 1:11:29]: continue shopping small throughout the entire [1:11:30, 1:11:32]: holiday season into the end of the year. [1:11:33, 1:11:35]: Um so with that, um [1:11:35, 1:11:50]: We've started earlier this year, knowing that we've got a whole month to fill and and campaign for. Um, so tomorrow morning at nine o'clock, there will be um a small business blitz committee meeting. It will be on [1:11:50, 1:11:53]: The second Wednesday each month. Um [1:11:54, 1:11:55]: Going forward [1:11:55, 1:12:02]: Uh and at nine o'clock in the morning. Um, so those are our updates. We're very excited to do a better job with. [1:12:02, 1:12:05]: Small business Saturday and our [1:12:05, 1:12:08]: November or holiday shopping blitz time. [1:12:08, 1:12:14]: in 2022. Anyone would like to help with that, you're welcome to join us. [1:12:14, 1:12:15]: Thank you guys. [1:12:17, 1:12:29]: Thank you, Lisa. Great report and I really appreciate all the uh all the work uh you and the Main Street team has been doing to help um help develop the downtown. So that's great. Any any questions for Lisa? [1:12:31, 1:12:33]: Any additional comments, Barber, anything to add? [1:12:35, 1:12:36]: No. [1:12:37, 1:12:57]: All right, we'll move on to the next item on the agenda, the facade grant update. Um uh I'll uh first of all, big thanks to Bob for uh and and and Alan for the work. Um at Bob and Alan and myself, we uh formed a committee and we're reviewing all of the uh procedure documentation as well as what's published on our website. [1:12:57, 1:13:17]: related to the FUS facade grant. There's been some things that needed to be addressed. And so we're drafting those documents. We've completed one set of documents. We have a few more letters that you know this we we wanted to kind of have a template for the, you know, we've received your application. [1:13:17, 1:13:37]: And your application has been approved or denied, and then putting some rules around uh the facade grant process for consistency, just some lessons learned on the ones that uh we've experienced so far. That's near completion. We've had one more committee meeting, and I expect that by this next uh by the uh April meeting for the [1:13:37, 1:13:50]: Downtown Development Authority meeting, we'll be able to present the revised uh documents and procedures uh that we've developed for the facade grant. So that's underway. Any questions about that? [1:13:51, 1:13:52]: Yes, sir. [1:13:52, 1:13:55]: Yes, Lisa, go ahead. Yes. Um [1:13:55, 1:14:06]: So it's more of a comment and a gr and a request. It's been a little while since I went onto the um seamless docks application for the for the facade grant. [1:14:06, 1:14:11]: Um, but I did go on within the past couple months and at that time. [1:14:12, 1:14:20]: It was a little bit difficult to find it on the city's website. So if you could get with the clerk's office and just make sure it's easy for your um applicants to find. [1:14:20, 1:14:27]: And in addition to that, I think it just needed a little bit of updating because it still had the name of one of the former officers. So [1:14:28, 1:14:33]: Just a couple things to make it um fresher and easy for our applicants to find. [1:14:33, 1:14:38]: Bingo man. Soon as we get our website up, it'll be perfect, won't it? [1:14:39, 1:14:59]: And and yes, we did recognize that the application itself uh had some information that was not current. And uh I thankfully Alan Tenton and the and the city staff team that uh he's been working with, we did get access to an editable version of the application. So that we that's that's one of our next steps. We've uh there was like a [1:14:59, 1:15:19]: An overview document that had all the procedures kind of listed out. That's been complete. We've we've drafted a new version of that. And the next item we were working on was the application and the confirmation letter. So once once we do that, the whole package will be ready for publishing and that should roll very dovetail quite nicely, assuming we, you know. [1:15:19, 1:15:39]: we can proceed with a social media or web presence and we'll have an even more uh more marketing around um promoting that program because as uh councilman alexander said in our last meeting um we don't want to carry a large budget for the facade grant we want that money to go to the businesses in our district uh [1:15:39, 1:15:47]: Um, all right. Uh next item I have is just uh city staff updates. So Alan Peterson, do you have anything you want to share with group? [1:15:52, 1:15:56]: Not right now. I don't I don't have anything to add. I think everything has been said. Um [1:15:57, 1:16:04]: I think we think we have a great meeting today with Georgia Powell. I'm looking forward to implementing that with Georgia Tech. And I'm looking forward to [1:16:04, 1:16:05]: Getting um [1:16:06, 1:16:08]: this social media marketing campaign going. [1:16:09, 1:16:15]: And the information that we receive today is going to help with that tremendously because whoever we hire. [1:16:15, 1:16:16]: is going to have data. [1:16:17, 1:16:21]: to um to help. They're just not going out there blind. So I I I'm looking forward to that. [1:16:23, 1:16:24]: Uh R Roger. [1:16:25, 1:16:31]: Go ahead. I have a question for Mr. Peterson, our statement. Mr. Peterson, tell us about the brilliant visit. [1:16:31, 1:16:36]: DCA had here and oh yes how magnanimous that was. [1:16:36, 1:16:43]: Yes. What a great job you did. So it was it it it was a team effort. It was a team effort. Um [1:16:43, 1:16:48]: Councilman Alexander was there. We also had uh Miss Kira there from Main Street and [1:16:48, 1:16:54]: We met with um DCA, Miss Cherie Bennett came and we drove around. [1:16:54, 1:17:01]: Our downtown, we drove through a little bit of residential and she did tell us that we are in a good position to apply. [1:17:02, 1:17:04]: For the opportunity zone. [1:17:04, 1:17:13]: Uh as you all know, a few months ago I I had a tour with DCA, but it wasn't with Ms. Bennett. It was with another one of her team members. And uh [1:17:14, 1:17:17]: Our team member took a lot of pictures and put a report together. [1:17:17, 1:17:18]: Um after that visit. [1:17:19, 1:17:23]: We got on the Zoom meeting and we presented that information to Miss Bennett and um [1:17:23, 1:17:27]: We didn't qualify, but after this visit, now she let us know that um [1:17:27, 1:17:29]: Things looked a lot worse in person. [1:17:30, 1:17:45]: So um we're we're in a position to um to apply for that opportunity zone. I spoke with Ms. Bennett today and I was emailing her. So I'm going to go through it and ask her a few questions. The opportunity zone is not an application. Um [1:17:46, 1:17:51]: like other grants and other programs, it it's more of a checklist of things that we have to put together. [1:17:52, 1:17:54]: So I'll be in communication with her. [1:17:54, 1:18:02]: Trying to get that done. And I've worked with her and well DCA in the past, and they're very helpful. So I'll be working uh with her on that. [1:18:03, 1:18:04]: If anybody wants to help, let me know. [1:18:05, 1:18:08]: Absolutely. And understanding that uh [1:18:08, 1:18:10]: This is huge, ladies and gentlemen. [1:18:11, 1:18:14]: If we get the opportunity zone standard. [1:18:15, 1:18:26]: Yeah, let's say Ms. King, you opened up a business in downtown Stockbridge and you hired 10 employees, then you would get a check each year for$35,000. [1:18:27, 1:18:36]: Because we're in an opportunity zone. So in and you would get that check every year for 10 years for$350,000. [1:18:36, 1:18:54]: So when every person, every time, that's that's the carrot. That's why Jonesboro is succeeding. You know, a lot of these areas are succeeding because they have opportunities on businesses. Look for these, they search the globe for this. So we're able to do that. [1:18:55, 1:18:58]: Somebody wants to open a coffee shop or a bookstore. [1:18:58, 1:19:02]: And they hire twenty employees, thirty employees, whatever they hire. [1:19:02, 1:19:10]: They get this tax credit to help offset the cost for every employee that they hire. That's why this is so significant. [1:19:11, 1:19:13]: And that opportunity, I thank you, Mr. Peterson. [1:19:13, 1:19:15]: For getting Miss Bennett back. [1:19:16, 1:19:18]: Uh on that conference call, so I could ask. [1:19:18, 1:19:21]: for a reevaluation, because once she got and it was good. [1:19:21, 1:19:23]: And she went to the amphitheater. [1:19:24, 1:19:26]: What happened when she went to the amphitheater, Miss Peterson? [1:19:28, 1:19:29]: Oh, she she just lit up. [1:19:29, 1:19:31]: You know, she um [1:19:31, 1:19:40]: She uh she really liked it. Um it was top-notch. Um, you know, we were able to take her in the green room and in the green room and and all around. So [1:19:40, 1:19:59]: She she understands what we're trying to do here in our downtown area and she's very supportive as well as everyone over there in DCA. So I I do know that DCA wants to work with us and they want to see us succeed because when we succeed, you know, everybody looks good. The DDA looks good, the city looks good, and the DCA looks good. [1:20:00, 1:20:01]: So she she was very impressed with [1:20:02, 1:20:04]: within the amphitheater and what we're trying to do. [1:20:04, 1:20:07]: And I think that having heard look at the amphitheater. [1:20:08, 1:20:10]: You know, made her understand. [1:20:10, 1:20:16]: while we're trying to build this downtown area because they're so close and they complement each other. [1:20:17, 1:20:37]: Yeah, she she wants to see us succeed. It was so good in that what she said was uh she saw where we were going and that she could see we got an opportunity to present the vision. And when folks can see where you're going, then they understand uh, you know, uh the flight. So she took a second. [1:20:37, 1:20:42]: look and by the end of that car drive she was pointing to things that we needed to put [1:20:42, 1:20:44]: On the list to help us. [1:20:45, 1:20:48]: So it's good to know that Mr. Peterson's relationship [1:20:48, 1:20:49]: With them. [1:20:49, 1:20:55]: predated us and that that was able to assist. So that's exactly why we brought him to town. So thank you, sir. [1:20:56, 1:20:58]: Thank you, Councilman. Barber, I see your hand up. [1:21:02, 1:21:12]: I wanted to and Mr. Peterson had asked for volunteers. I just wanted to be clear on what the call to action was to make sure if I want to participate on that. [1:21:14, 1:21:19]: Are you are you re referring to the social media campaign or with the application? [1:21:20, 1:21:28]: Yeah, no, with what we you were just talking about with the opportunity zone, you were asking for volunteers, but I wasn't sure um what we would volunteer for. [1:21:28, 1:21:31]: Just to help with the app uh with the application, well [1:21:31, 1:21:42]: Let's say application because it's not really an application for the opportunity zone. I um we we spoke today briefly about it and we're gonna have another follow-up call. We want to make sure that we have. [1:21:42, 1:21:46]: everything that we need. So I'll be sure to keep you in the loop. [1:21:46, 1:21:54]: Um regarding that. But it in actuality, we've really already started. It started during that tour when she saw what we were trying to do. [1:21:55, 1:21:58]: So we really have already started now it's just collecting data and putting it together. [1:21:59, 1:22:00]: Got it. Okay. Thank you. [1:22:02, 1:22:21]: All right. Um Alan, actually I have a couple uh uh questions. Um it's it's a little bit later on the agenda, but and have you heard any response regarding the intergovernmental agreement that the uh that we've drafted uh that presented to the city? I know you forwarded over to the city's managers. Any any discussion or any concerns at this point? Any update? [1:22:21, 1:22:24]: I I haven't received anything back from the attorneys as of yet. [1:22:25, 1:22:45]: All right. And the other item, we haven't talked about this in a long while, but I know earlier a few months ago, you had there have been some open discussions with Norfolk Southern regarding uh, you know, the quiet zone. Any updates uh on that front? Yes, yes. Um one thing that that we're going to need is a traffic study. Now a traffic [1:22:45, 1:22:49]: study was conducted when the amphitheater was um [1:22:50, 1:22:53]: was was built and um they have a copy of that. [1:22:53, 1:22:56]: So I have a meeting with them actually next week. [1:22:56, 1:23:02]: Um, that was just scheduled. We're going to meet to see if that study is sufficient for the quiet zone. [1:23:04, 1:23:07]: Barber. [1:23:07, 1:23:15]: I'll let you all know now that's going to be somewhat of a lengthy process, you know, dealing with the railroad and that quiet zone. There are a lot of moving pieces dealing with that. [1:23:16, 1:23:36]: Right, I understand. But that, you know, the reason I'm so interested in that from a the DDA perspective is I, you know, I've I've long felt that that's a significant um factor in attracting both residential and outdoor dining to the area. And I I agree with you a hundred percent. [1:23:36, 1:23:42]: Percent Roger, especially when you're dealing with the restaurants and outdoor dining, that train is loud. I hear it in my office. [1:23:42, 1:23:59]: It stops the conversation with ins inside the business. Everything goes on pause. Right, exactly. So they um, you know, we're we're beating down their door, you know, we're we're we're constantly on them about that. [1:24:00, 1:24:02]: And we're back from my understanding. [1:24:02, 1:24:04]: Those conversations were going on. [1:24:04, 1:24:07]: Um, before I got here, then they stalled for a bit because of COVID. [1:24:08, 1:24:09]: Um now I'm here and I [1:24:10, 1:24:15]: you know, beam beam down their uh their door. So yeah, we we have a meeting next week. I'll be meeting with um [1:24:16, 1:24:22]: with um one of the representatives and uh Mr. Deshes, who was the public works director for the city of Stockbridge. [1:24:22, 1:24:25]: And um I'll keep you all posted. [1:24:26, 1:24:34]: Appreciate that. I know it's a long I know it's um I I know it's a long-term um you know path and a lot of moving parts. So I appreciate your work on that. [1:24:34, 1:24:39]: Um anything else? Uh anyone else have any questions or comments for Mr. Peterson? [1:24:41, 1:24:46]: All right, we'll move on to uh city council updates. Councilman, anything anything more you want to share with the group? [1:24:51, 1:24:54]: First of all, I just want to thank everybody for [1:24:55, 1:24:57]: Uh your participation. [1:24:57, 1:25:01]: And I think uh we're all to a great start in terms of [1:25:01, 1:25:02]: Uh twenty twenty two. [1:25:03, 1:25:07]: In saying this, we're we want to be able to meet every single month. [1:25:07, 1:25:12]: And we certainly don't want to cancel meetings and we want to meet with purpose. [1:25:12, 1:25:16]: And I think uh what we want to be able to do is to work [1:25:16, 1:25:19]: Um hand in hand with the city council. [1:25:19, 1:25:22]: uh moving the needle forward to get [1:25:22, 1:25:26]: uh to where we're looking to move this uh uh [1:25:26, 1:25:33]: move the city to. These meetings are going to be with purpose. Uh they're going to be done [1:25:33, 1:25:36]: uh in with intention um [1:25:37, 1:25:39]: And working with a coordinated vision. [1:25:40, 1:25:41]: Uh with the city. [1:25:41, 1:25:45]: And anytime that you have any questions about anything that we're doing. [1:25:45, 1:25:49]: Uh on the city side, I'm here to answer your question. I'm a email away. [1:25:50, 1:25:51]: I'm a phone call away. [1:25:51, 1:25:52]: To talk about [1:25:53, 1:25:54]: what we're doing. [1:25:54, 1:25:58]: And again, I just want to remind everyone to say [1:25:58, 1:26:02]: Who have you talked to about coming to downtown Stockbridge? [1:26:02, 1:26:07]: The function of this board is simply not to just go over what is brought to us. [1:26:08, 1:26:14]: and just vote or to talk about it. It is to act to be an actual participant. [1:26:14, 1:26:16]: in economic development. [1:26:16, 1:26:17]: So [1:26:17, 1:26:26]: Just like the data that we got today from public. So when some or on the downtown area, use that in your conversation with potential business owners to tell them. [1:26:27, 1:26:27]: We have [1:26:28, 1:26:30]: А публикс і на тон арія. [1:26:31, 1:26:32]: That is [1:26:32, 1:26:38]: uh greater foot traffic than seventy five percent of the publics in America. This is the place that you need to be. [1:26:38, 1:26:42]: and talk about it in terms of of positivity. [1:26:42, 1:27:02]: Uh in terms of the things that the city has going on, beautification, uh, we want to make sure that we uh my goal is to say that we want to be cleaner than Disney. And that's uh a a big, big aspiration for us to do that. And I'm starting that this Saturday at 9 a.m. picking up trash on Highway 138. [1:27:02, 1:27:16]: I don't I talk a lot, but I work and I try to get things done because 138, uh, we gotta do part of the you we gotta make sure that we do our place, uh cleaning the place up. We have city staff to do that. [1:27:16, 1:27:20]: A matter of fact, we just signed a new contract or renewed the contract with [1:27:20, 1:27:24]: Our contractors in order to maintain highway one thirty eight. [1:27:24, 1:27:38]: Uh when you get off there and you see things, make a report. If you see things that are out of line, you see litter or you see the grass not being cut, make a note of that. Go, we have a, you know, we have a city app. [1:27:38, 1:27:53]: We have a city app that you can report it on or you can go to the city C click fix and report these items on. And we certainly can get them work because it takes every set of eyes. When you drive down North Henry Boulevard, what do you see? [1:27:53, 1:28:13]: Because we gotta fix the gateway uh into downtown, because most people have already given up on us before they make it to downtown. Because when they see what they see, but then they see that inspiration, they see that hope and they see the amphitheater. And then you tell them about the STEM school is coming, all the new activities. [1:28:13, 1:28:24]: That are going on in downtown. And yes, the bridges at Jodeco Development kicked off. That's a$50 million investment in the city. [1:28:25, 1:28:37]: Uh the Argento project is$50 million in best in class uh luxury apartments. Why does that matter? Because they're trying to attract young urban professionals and well-appointed seniors. [1:28:37, 1:28:41]: uh to that location for residential so that [1:28:41, 1:28:43]: Uh the businesses want to see. [1:28:44, 1:28:46]: Uh residents already on location. [1:28:47, 1:28:48]: For them to come there. [1:28:48, 1:28:52]: And to be able to have foot traffic, the same foot traffic we're talking about. [1:28:52, 1:28:54]: uh public soffit so [1:28:55, 1:28:56]: And then by the way. [1:28:57, 1:29:02]: Not only are is the Argento moving forward, 140 townhomes. [1:29:02, 1:29:03]: were approved. [1:29:04, 1:29:10]: As well, a hundred and forty townhomes were approved. Those town homes are gonna be [1:29:10, 1:29:13]: Тр твоенев. [1:29:13, 1:29:16]: There will be the brownstone style town homes. [1:29:16, 1:29:20]: And the price point will probably be somewhere around four hundred thousand dollars and up. [1:29:20, 1:29:22]: So they're very significant. [1:29:22, 1:29:23]: Uh investment. [1:29:24, 1:29:34]: uh in the community. Over on the city center side, uh they're talking to several vendors, large wholesale warehouse, one of those uh that they're talking to. [1:29:34, 1:29:37]: Uh I understand that um [1:29:37, 1:29:50]: You know, that there's been some activity uh with other retailers like Starbucks and Chick-fil-A coming to the table as well. So as many people are being interested uh in uh signing up and coming on board. [1:29:50, 1:29:55]: We expect some uh big announcements uh coming from that direction. [1:29:55, 1:29:56]: So not just [1:29:56, 1:30:02]: uh you know, downtown, but all over the city. Activity is growing like never before. [1:30:03, 1:30:06]: Uh, the city manager we just talked about. [1:30:06, 1:30:14]: a potential uh residential development uh coming into downtown as well, seeing because we haven't seen a lot of building. [1:30:14, 1:30:15]: Uh coming into downtown. [1:30:16, 1:30:17]: But there's a significant [1:30:17, 1:30:21]: Uh some there's a significant developer looking to put [1:30:21, 1:30:23]: A neighborhood in downtown. [1:30:24, 1:30:31]: uh on empty space, not demolishing anything, but bringing a new s new development to downtown. [1:30:31, 1:30:34]: Uh to bring in residents uh so they can have [1:30:34, 1:30:36]: Nice accommodations. [1:30:37, 1:30:44]: uh added to downtown. So there's a lot of activity and understand that uh everything is moving forward and [1:30:44, 1:30:56]: Uh we'd like to see your presence uh out at these different events and what have you, the concerts at the amphitheater and different events so we can share the message that Stockbridge is open for business. [1:30:59, 1:31:09]: Thank you, Councilman. I do appreciate your work in promoting the development of downtown. Uh myself as a business owner, I greatly appreciate that. So thank you. Any questions for councilman? [1:31:11, 1:31:31]: All right. Uh remaining items on the agenda, the downtown strategic plan, each of the committees, you know, continue their work. I don't have any significant updates based uh you know, based on what I shared in the last month. And we've covered the item on the intergovernmental agreement. So at this point, I'll just open up the floor if there's any remaining questions or comments from anyone. [1:31:31, 1:31:32]: Any of the panelists? [1:31:35, 1:31:47]: All right. Um well with that, that covers the items on the agenda. Um I think uh then if any anyone would like to make a motion to adjourn the meeting, then I think we're we're at that point. [1:31:48, 1:31:50]: I move we adjourn the meeting. [1:31:50, 1:31:53]: All right, thank you, Bob. Can we have a second? [1:31:55, 1:31:58]: Second. Thank you, Councilman. [1:31:59, 1:32:00]: Any further discussion? [1:32:02, 1:32:10]: All right, we'll do this by show of hands, but I don't see Samequa or Barber. So if you'll say yes, if you're in favor of adjourning, well, there you go. I see Samikla. Thank you. Yes. [1:32:11, 1:32:22]: And I hear you, Barber. All right, that's unanimous. Thank you, everyone. I know it was a little bit longer than usual, but uh really good information this evening. Appreciate your continued work. Have a great night. Good night, everybody. Everybody.