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--- title: December 21 2021 Work Session Meeting date: 2021-12-21 source: 2021-12-21_December_21_2021_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:02, 0:00:03]: Yes. [0:00:07, 0:00:08]: [ 22.9, 23.3]: [0:00:30, 0:00:30]: [ 52.5, 53.3]: Yeah. [0:00:59, 0:01:00]: Mm. [0:01:38, 0:01:41]: Evening, Chief. Uh evening, Councilman Blount. [0:01:41, 0:01:42]: Miss Barber? [0:01:43, 0:01:44]: Evening. [0:01:45, 0:01:46]: Good evening, sir. Good evening, everyone. [0:01:59, 0:02:01]: Evening, Mare Pro Tem. [0:02:01, 0:02:03]: Councilman Thomas, you made it. [0:02:06, 0:02:13]: Yeah, uh yes, sir. Uh I'm I'm trying to get ready for the uh actual roll call, but I I'll be back in a short minute. [0:02:13, 0:02:16]: Well will you be able to give the invocation still, sir, or not? [0:02:20, 0:02:33]: Uh I I I would say not. Uh I'm not prepared to be on screen just yet. So okay. I'm trying to get ready for I just walked in, so I'm trying to get ready for on-screen presence. Okay, no problem. Appreciate it. [0:02:33, 0:02:34]: Hello, how you doing Kim? [0:02:43, 0:02:45]: Hello everyone. I don't mear put him. [0:02:46, 0:02:53]: Are we live yet? Are we live yet? Actually, we are live. I'm sorry, sir. We are live. I'm sorry about that. [0:02:54, 0:02:56]: Okay, I just want to mention that um [0:02:56, 0:03:00]: I had death in the family today and um I'm running, I'm getting home late. [0:03:01, 0:03:03]: Uh but that is the only reason why that um [0:03:04, 0:03:05]: I'm just running late. [0:03:05, 0:03:11]: All right, no problem. But but we are live. Uh Mare Pro Tem, can can I I know it's late. Can I ask you to give the invocation this evening? [0:03:11, 0:03:13]: Sure, go right sure, I think. [0:03:13, 0:03:15]: Okay, I appreciate it. Thank you very much. [0:03:15, 0:03:16]: Mm. [0:03:17, 0:03:21]: And actually, what do we have here? We got six o'clock, but we don't have our [0:03:21, 0:03:23]: Attorneys. [0:03:25, 0:03:27]: And we have a [0:03:28, 0:03:29]: Quorum. [0:03:34, 0:03:39]: Ms. Holiday, I've I'm assuming that the the attorneys did get the link for the this meeting this evening. [0:03:39, 0:03:41]: Okay, thank you. [0:03:53, 0:03:54]: Wow. [0:04:19, 0:04:20]: Hmm. [0:04:25, 0:04:26]: [272.4, 275.8]: I know we do have a quorum, but I'm looking for their attorneys to arrive. [0:04:42, 0:04:47]: I just asked IT if he can send them a a separate individual link. [0:04:47, 0:04:49]: Appreciate that. Thank you. [0:04:53, 0:04:55]: Any additional state action. I mean [0:05:27, 0:05:29]: Ms. Holliday, are you still on the line? [0:05:35, 0:05:38]: Mr. Blount, she's uh she's online. [0:05:39, 0:05:40]: And um [0:05:41, 0:05:43]: Yeah, Mr. Blount, did you need something? [0:05:43, 0:05:52]: Yeah, good evening. How are you? Um do you do you recall do you remember the date that the actual agenda that was sent through the email, the actual email date on that? Do you remember? [0:05:53, 0:05:54]: Do you recall that date? [0:05:55, 0:05:56]: For this meeting. [0:05:56, 0:06:05]: Yes, the the actual email date. No, I would have to check you because you know Randy Rainey sends that out. So I would have to actually check the sent email. [0:06:05, 0:06:07]: Oh, December. [0:06:08, 0:06:09]: December the sixteenth. [0:06:10, 0:06:12]: All right. Thank you, sir. Okay. [0:06:14, 0:06:26]: Okay, Ms. Halley, I received a message from the attorneys. They have not received a link. Um Okay, I received a message from IT that it's been reset again. So I don't know what the issue is. [0:06:27, 0:06:27]: Okay. [0:06:32, 0:06:36]: Let's see. S I T on the call. Oh yeah, he's there. He's present. [0:06:37, 0:06:37]: He hears you. [0:06:38, 0:06:42]: All right, Robert. Did you hear that that the attorneys have not received the link? [0:06:44, 0:06:46]: Yes, I just resent with U two C C'd. [0:06:48, 0:06:50]: [423.9, 424.8]: Oh, here we go. [0:07:08, 0:07:10]: Welcome, Mr. Washington. [0:07:12, 0:07:13]: Didn't even I'll I'll I [0:07:14, 0:07:17]: Good evening. I'll turn the Facebook uh off here. [0:07:18, 0:07:20]: All right, and uh [0:07:20, 0:07:26]: And Jeremy, he's uh Mr. Berry is online as well. Okay. Good deal. Thank you, sir. [0:07:26, 0:07:46]: All right. What I'd like to do, ladies and gentlemen, is call our city council work session. And this is March 21st, excuse me, December. December 21st of 2021. Oh my gosh. And uh I have actually uh 604. Uh so the meeting would like to call it the order. Um [0:07:46, 0:07:49]: Ms. Holiday, the roll call please. [0:07:53, 0:07:55]: Mayor Ford? Present. [0:07:55, 0:07:56]: We approach him Alexander. [0:07:57, 0:07:57]: Present. [0:07:57, 0:07:58]: Councilwoman Barber. [0:07:59, 0:07:59]: That's it. [0:08:00, 0:08:01]: Councilman Blount. [0:08:01, 0:08:02]: Present. [0:08:02, 0:08:03]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:08:06, 0:08:10]: Let the record reflect Councilwoman Gantt is not in attendance. Councilman Thomas. [0:08:12, 0:08:13]: President. [0:08:14, 0:08:16]: Thank you, Mayor Ford. Do you have a quorum? [0:08:16, 0:08:17]: Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate it. [0:08:18, 0:08:21]: Um Mayor Pro Tem, could you get an invocation, please? [0:08:21, 0:08:23]: Will everyone bow your heads, please? [0:08:25, 0:08:27]: I just want to thank God. [0:08:27, 0:08:29]: for being able to be a blessing. [0:08:30, 0:08:33]: I want this entire council mayor and council. [0:08:33, 0:08:34]: To be so thankful. [0:08:34, 0:08:38]: That God has gifted us with the ability to bless others. [0:08:39, 0:08:40]: Our decisions. [0:08:40, 0:08:43]: And our vision and our wisdom and our leadership. [0:08:43, 0:08:47]: are God given. Those are talents that He's granted us all. [0:08:47, 0:08:49]: But I want to focus on today. [0:08:50, 0:08:52]: Our ability to be a blessing for others. [0:08:53, 0:08:57]: Uh, with the philanthropic activity over the weekend with so many of us taking place. [0:08:58, 0:09:00]: Uh with Linda Jones and feeding God's people. [0:09:01, 0:09:05]: Our toy drive, our community development for real people toy drive. [0:09:05, 0:09:08]: Those are that's what community is all about. [0:09:08, 0:09:13]: Uh the Shaka Claus event, the Shaquille O'Neal took place in the sheriff's office. [0:09:13, 0:09:17]: All of us touch the community in some way, in a philanthropic way. [0:09:18, 0:09:20]: When the true giving [0:09:20, 0:09:22]: And caring of a community. [0:09:22, 0:09:25]: Are composed of what we can do for each other. [0:09:26, 0:09:27]: As our brother's keeper. [0:09:27, 0:09:35]: Thank God for giving us the strength, the guidance, and the sustenance to be able to impact others and be a blessing to others. [0:09:36, 0:09:38]: Let the decisions that we make tonight. [0:09:38, 0:09:42]: Impact be impactful and positive for this community. [0:09:43, 0:09:44]: As we're granted. [0:09:44, 0:09:45]: Uh leadership. [0:09:45, 0:09:48]: uh through the empowerment of the people. [0:09:48, 0:09:53]: the people, for the people, to the people, we are the people and for the people. [0:09:53, 0:09:57]: Thank you so much for spreading the joy and love and companionship. [0:09:58, 0:09:59]: That we have [0:09:59, 0:10:01]: uh in this season and this time. [0:10:01, 0:10:03]: That the Lord has blessed us with. [0:10:03, 0:10:05]: Tonight I am so thankful. [0:10:05, 0:10:08]: to everybody and to every member of this community. [0:10:08, 0:10:11]: is blessed to bless somebody else. [0:10:11, 0:10:14]: And please continue to guide us so we're able to do that. [0:10:14, 0:10:17]: with every action that we make in this meeting tonight. [0:10:17, 0:10:18]: Amen. [0:10:18, 0:10:19]: Amen. [0:10:20, 0:10:22]: Can we please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance? [0:10:25, 0:10:40]: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. One nation under God with liberty and justice for all. [0:10:41, 0:10:42]: Okay. [0:10:43, 0:10:48]: I council, I need the uh motion to actually amend the agenda. [0:10:48, 0:10:52]: And what I like to request is that item number ten that deals with the [0:10:53, 0:11:06]: uh contract to johnson control security solutions that it'd be uh removed from the agenda for further for for additional information and further uh thought process and and for additional time to uh bring it back. [0:11:08, 0:11:10]: So move Zero Second. [0:11:12, 0:11:14]: Miss Barber Secondsad. All in favor, please indicate. [0:11:15, 0:11:35]: Uh okay, thank you very much. I appreciate it. Once again, I'd like to also make another um a recommendation for to amend the agenda. Uh this will actually be the actual downtown development authority. The DDA chair has requested uh that they re-remove this and they wanted to bring this. [0:11:35, 0:11:45]: back i believe it's one month later and they want to do some time have some time to talk over with the the rest of the uh members of the of the development authority just want to bring that forward is [0:11:45, 0:11:47]: Is uh can we uh take this off as well? [0:11:48, 0:11:51]: Yes, some of what item number is that, Mayor Ford? [0:11:52, 0:11:56]: That is that is the no oh item number that would be item number twenty. [0:11:56, 0:11:57]: Okay. [0:11:57, 0:12:00]: I number twenty. She says so moves our second. [0:12:01, 0:12:01]: Uh [0:12:02, 0:12:05]: I thought Barber, you made the motion, right? You just so move? [0:12:05, 0:12:06]: Is there a second? [0:12:09, 0:12:14]: Okay. Okay, Mr. Airport temp second that all in favor, please indicate. [0:12:15, 0:12:20]: Aye. Okay. Oppose? Abstain? [0:12:21, 0:12:25]: Well I don't ms Mr. Blount, do you stain? Is that what that means? [0:12:26, 0:12:28]: I got three votes for Mr. Blount. [0:12:30, 0:12:33]: You you I can't hear you, so you're you're muted. [0:12:36, 0:12:40]: I say I'm fine with fine with that man. Okay. [0:12:41, 0:13:01]: All right, I have one other recommendation for the uh for amendment, and that would be number item to be added added to the agenda and item number 30. And this deals with the actual tasers for the police department. Chief Kramer wants to bring this forward. I believe you all received information about it. So he wants to add this to the agenda, which would be the last item um of the [0:13:01, 0:13:05]: evening. Um so is there a motion to uh to add this item? [0:13:06, 0:13:07]: Саму. [0:13:07, 0:13:09]: Okay, Miss Barber move. Is there a second? [0:13:10, 0:13:13]: Sir Mayor Putem second that all in favor, please indicate. [0:13:14, 0:13:16]: Okay, I got a quick question. [0:13:17, 0:13:18]: Yes, sir. [0:13:19, 0:13:30]: Uh Chief, is there is there gonna be like a line item of different things you're gonna need? Because I I'm just saying so we wouldn't like taser now this later that if all if all is gonna be covered on the opera funding. [0:13:30, 0:13:38]: Is there a list that you can a composed list of everything that you need? And we can kind of do that in one swoop instead of kind of piecing it off. [0:13:39, 0:13:41]: Yeah, we were actually uh [0:13:41, 0:13:45]: Discussing some some options for that, obviously um [0:13:45, 0:13:52]: bringing all these items before the council uh week to week. I did supply uh Mr. Berry with a list of items that we anticipate uh purchasing. [0:13:53, 0:13:56]: So to answer your question, the short answer is yes, we do have a list of these things. [0:13:57, 0:14:02]: Um it just be based on the consensus of the council to what degree they want to do that in one. [0:14:02, 0:14:03]: Um [0:14:04, 0:14:05]: You know, one [0:14:07, 0:14:08]: Presentation. [0:14:08, 0:14:14]: Because within that presentation we may not know the exact dollar amounts. Um so some of these are going to be [0:14:15, 0:14:23]: uh contingent upon receiving the actual uh the actual financial exact figures from the vendors for the acquisition of the equipment. [0:14:24, 0:14:33]: And the reason I'm asking that chief is but because if we if we start to do it this way, then you're gonna only be move moving. [0:14:33, 0:14:41]: twice a month or special call meetings when we could try to move things a little further on that you need to be doing and that way it could kind of [0:14:41, 0:15:00]: uh move things a little quicker. That uh whatever you have that you do know, if we can just put that in one uh itemized agenda if the council so will that that way we can uh have it all down those items that you do have the amounts on. That way we won't have to keep uh breaking it off like that. I just thought it would be better like that. Uh [0:15:00, 0:15:06]: For that council. If that's the if that's the wish of the council, that would be our preference as well. [0:15:06, 0:15:07]: And um [0:15:08, 0:15:12]: Of course, subject to appropriate betting by legal and procurement. [0:15:12, 0:15:17]: uh for these purchases which can be done after the fact. So council could approve these. [0:15:17, 0:15:20]: purchases on the front end up to a [0:15:20, 0:15:22]: certain dollar amount. [0:15:22, 0:15:26]: And uh we could ratify those at a subsequent council meeting. [0:15:27, 0:15:31]: And I would say to you that this this discussion that you're dealing with right now, Mr. [0:15:32, 0:15:42]: uh councilman blood and and the chief here for everybody's that we're gonna be able to talk about this a little later on in the agenda. So it's it's set that way. So what your concern is is going to come up in the agenda anyway for further discussion. [0:15:43, 0:15:47]: So on that note, the motion has been made, been seconded. So all in favor of motion, please indicate. [0:15:49, 0:15:56]: I got two, three. Okay. That's unanimous decision. Okay. Appreciate that. Now I need a motion to adopt the overall agenda, please. [0:15:56, 0:15:56]: Or [0:15:57, 0:15:57]: Yes, ma'am. [0:15:58, 0:16:02]: I'd like to amend the agenda to tame table three items. [0:16:03, 0:16:05]: This is item number 18. [0:16:07, 0:16:09]: Item number twenty four and twenty six. [0:16:13, 0:16:14]: You said eighteen. [0:16:15, 0:16:22]: 18 council consideration to approve green room community policy and fee schedule. Uh-huh. [0:16:22, 0:16:35]: Item 24, council consideration to grant the chief of police the authority to implement andor amend police department policies and procedures with with review by legal counsel as appropriate. [0:16:36, 0:16:37]: A second. [0:16:38, 0:16:42]: Okay, what you said eighteen, twenty four. What I thought was a third one. I must have I thought it was [0:16:42, 0:16:43]: Um [0:16:43, 0:16:55]: Council consideration to temporarily waive spending authority limits to authorize the city manager to approve police department startup purchases, not to exceed designated amount, so forth. [0:16:56, 0:16:57]: And what number is that now? [0:16:57, 0:16:58]: That's twenty six. [0:16:59, 0:17:00]: Twenty six. [0:17:02, 0:17:11]: All right, you made that motion to uh to amend the agenda to take those items off. Uh and uh Councilman Thomas uh second that motion. [0:17:12, 0:17:13]: Okay. [0:17:13, 0:17:16]: All right, motion has been made in a second. All in favor, please indicate. [0:17:16, 0:17:17]: Discussion [0:17:18, 0:17:18]: All right. [0:17:20, 0:17:21]: Discussion. [0:17:21, 0:17:31]: Well, okay. Stand by. The the only thing the only only thing I like to see on these items is that I support them. I just want to make sure that the public is understanding. [0:17:32, 0:17:34]: why we're doing what we're doing. [0:17:34, 0:17:37]: So if we could explain to the public why we're doing what we're doing. [0:17:37, 0:17:39]: I'm okay with it because I think [0:17:40, 0:17:41]: The methodology [0:17:41, 0:17:47]: And the understanding sh the public should always have the understanding on why we make a move. [0:17:49, 0:17:49]: Okay. [0:17:50, 0:17:56]: So if if if if we could just give the public a explanation on on the on the thought process behind [0:17:56, 0:18:03]: These items being moved, I think we can move right along fairly quickly. All right. Uh councilman Thomas, you got your hand up. I guess you want to explain it, sir. [0:18:03, 0:18:07]: Well, I I just have a comment. I don't know if I can explain it. I I I [0:18:08, 0:18:09]: I can explain my position. [0:18:09, 0:18:11]: Uh I'll second it. [0:18:11, 0:18:12]: Um [0:18:14, 0:18:15]: My vote. [0:18:16, 0:18:18]: Was a vote of three. [0:18:19, 0:18:22]: That established the Styridge Police Department. [0:18:23, 0:18:29]: Uh I I I voted for the police department based on uh [0:18:29, 0:18:31]: You know, the the needs. [0:18:32, 0:18:34]: The data, the facts. [0:18:35, 0:18:35]: And [0:18:36, 0:18:38]: The principles that I believe that [0:18:38, 0:18:40]: Uh, we needed the Polish department. [0:18:41, 0:18:44]: So in and second in this motion. [0:18:45, 0:18:48]: I still stand on those principles. [0:18:48, 0:18:50]: Um, it is my belief. [0:18:51, 0:18:57]: And I and I support all of these things and I continue to support support uh the Stockbridge Police Department. [0:18:58, 0:19:00]: But I do believe. [0:19:00, 0:19:01]: That [0:19:01, 0:19:03]: In a couple of weeks. [0:19:03, 0:19:05]: Uh the city manager will be on board. [0:19:06, 0:19:09]: And it is my belief that the city manager. [0:19:10, 0:19:11]: Need to be involved. [0:19:12, 0:19:15]: uh in this discussion he need to have some input. [0:19:15, 0:19:17]: Uh, for me going forward. [0:19:17, 0:19:19]: I'm about holing. [0:19:19, 0:19:20]: Everyone [0:19:21, 0:19:22]: Accountable. [0:19:22, 0:19:24]: All departments accountable. [0:19:25, 0:19:28]: I will be holding the new city manager accountable. [0:19:28, 0:19:31]: And so I just want to make sure. [0:19:31, 0:19:43]: that he has an opportunity to uh meet with the chief. Uh they discuss these things and and he may very well approve of everything the chief is trying to do. [0:19:43, 0:19:45]: So my point is opportunity. [0:19:46, 0:19:50]: Um if he was not ha if he had not been approved. [0:19:50, 0:19:52]: then I I wouldn't be in this position. [0:19:52, 0:20:02]: But the fact that he has been approved and he will be here in two weeks, uh and he has he has the experience, he has uh uh [0:20:03, 0:20:10]: directed uh two police departments in and two jurisdictions. So I know he comes in with experience. [0:20:10, 0:20:17]: So based it just on those facts, um, I'm talking about giving the new city manager an opportunity. [0:20:17, 0:20:18]: I would not [0:20:19, 0:20:22]: want to pull the rug out from under him and again [0:20:22, 0:20:26]: Uh I I am going to make sure for my position. [0:20:27, 0:20:33]: That he is accountable to everything, all directors. And and just let me say also. [0:20:33, 0:20:34]: Um [0:20:34, 0:20:38]: All departments are the same to me. All departments. [0:20:38, 0:20:58]: All department heads, they are accountable for everything that triggered down from that department. And that's my position with everything. I don't distinguish between one department or one um director from the other. They're all the same. They all has to be accountable, including the new city manager coming in. [0:20:58, 0:21:00]: So my position is [0:21:00, 0:21:11]: Let's just give the uh new city manager an opportunity to get in and and you know, like I say, he may as well um, you know, be in favor of all of this, but it's just about an opportunity. [0:21:12, 0:21:16]: Thank you so much. Okay, Semma, Councilman Thomas, clarification. [0:21:16, 0:21:35]: uh Frederick Gardner is a sole finalist. There's a 14-day period. After that 14-day period by law, then we will meet again and formally appoint him uh to the position. I would think it would it would it would everything work fine, but he's he's just a sole finalist at this point. Uh but I understand your understand your comments, sir sir. Just want to [0:21:35, 0:21:46]: put that point of clarification there. Uh Mayor Putin, you want to say something else, sir? Yeah, I I thought that was very helpful and I'm totally in agreement with that because we want to empower the city manager to be able to [0:21:47, 0:21:48]: Uh run the city. [0:21:48, 0:21:52]: And that is their charge and their job to make sure that they do that. [0:21:52, 0:21:54]: And any decision that is made. [0:21:55, 0:21:57]: should have them sign off on it because [0:21:58, 0:21:58]: In the end [0:21:59, 0:22:06]: 20 its results. And in the end, the city manager and the police chief are going to be graded and they need to be [0:22:06, 0:22:16]: They need to be uh be uh in synergy and they need to see eye to eye on what these policies are going to be because overall they're gonna decide the success or failure. [0:22:17, 0:22:21]: uh of these uh t particular city initiatives so [0:22:21, 0:22:24]: I I think that I'm perfectly agreeable with [0:22:24, 0:22:26]: Making sure that the city manager [0:22:26, 0:22:28]: uh signs off on these items. [0:22:29, 0:22:42]: any other comments on this. So right now, if not right now, we have a motion on the floor to take to take off uh items number 18, 24, and 26. Okay. [0:22:44, 0:22:46]: Okay, all in favor of that motion, please indicate. [0:22:48, 0:22:54]: All right, that's unanimous decision. Okay, those items do come off. All right. Now I need a motion. Yes, yes, sir, Mr. Blount. [0:22:54, 0:23:00]: I'm sorry. So where does that leave us in terms of items on the agenda? Is that twenty four? [0:23:01, 0:23:08]: twenty four just came off. Eighteen, twenty-four, and twenty-six just came off. [0:23:09, 0:23:10]: Well, I'll have to add'em up. [0:23:11, 0:23:25]: Uh let's see here. We got the public here. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve. Pardon. [0:23:26, 0:23:28]: I got I count 17 if my count's right. [0:23:31, 0:23:32]: And I'm a yes, sir. [0:23:34, 0:23:38]: Well, I I have a question before I ask for an uh this amendment. [0:23:38, 0:23:42]: Um with the item number twenty seven and twenty eight. [0:23:43, 0:23:47]: Um we understand and twenty nine, we understand that they're gonna be opera funded. [0:23:47, 0:23:50]: Um but we have an amount for twenty [0:23:51, 0:23:53]: Uh nine that's posted. [0:23:53, 0:23:54]: Um [0:23:54, 0:23:59]: Well, we have an upcoming amount for twenty seven and twenty uh eight. [0:23:59, 0:24:07]: Um, I don't see those amounts. Well, that's all prefunded, so I would think that's part of the presentation that uh Chief Tramer would give. [0:24:07, 0:24:12]: Well, that's the the question I'm asking is is he already does he already have those amounts because they're not listed here? [0:24:13, 0:24:16]: Okay, I see him nodding his head. Yes, is I'm assuming that's it's affirmative. [0:24:17, 0:24:22]: Is that if is that I'm I'm uh Chief, you need to answer that right now, sir, or not? [0:24:22, 0:24:25]: No, there there there are funding amounts. Um [0:24:26, 0:24:31]: Uh uh Miss Holliday, was any supplemental documentation sent to council with the updated amounts? [0:24:32, 0:24:39]: They're not referring to your uh attachments. They're referring to what was entered uh into the system and apparently [0:24:39, 0:24:40]: Um [0:24:42, 0:24:48]: The person that entered them did not include the dollar amount. So if you have those, we can add those to the agenda for. [0:24:49, 0:24:50]: Council to know that. [0:24:50, 0:24:52]: number now, Mr. Tramer. [0:24:55, 0:24:59]: Okay. If if you would like I could speak those numbers into the um [0:25:00, 0:25:01]: Into the record. [0:25:03, 0:25:16]: Uh that uh that's fine if you uh if you have a number you can and do it. I would I would I would think I would think you if he has the numbers, he'll be able to give those numbers at the presentation itself. I'm fine with that. I just didn't I just didn't have anything pertaining to those numbers, Mayor. Okay. [0:25:17, 0:25:22]: See if you bring those numbers when it comes to your that item discussed, you you give us those numbers at that point. It'd be part of your presentation. [0:25:23, 0:25:39]: Yes, sir. All right. So I I count at least 17 items, uh, Ms. Barber. I mean, so I'm looking forward to I mean, I hope that answers your question. Uh okay, I'm looking forward to amendments, excuse me, to uh to uh to adopt the uh the amended agenda. [0:25:39, 0:25:42]: All right. I need adopt a minute agenda as as stated. [0:25:42, 0:25:43]: Is there is they're so moved. [0:25:44, 0:25:46]: So moved. Okay, Ms. Barber, is there a second? [0:25:47, 0:25:50]: Second. Okay. Mayor Protein. Second, then all favor, please indicate. [0:25:52, 0:25:56]: Okay, I've got uh okay, so now she says okay, now on that note. [0:25:57, 0:26:17]: Mayor, one one more quick, quick one, if you don't mind. Um, I would like for the council to uh we've looked at discussions in several cities, uh including the county, that the that this uh council would either do as a discussion this is uh discussion or to consider an amount that we would do um during [0:26:17, 0:26:22]: these time we we're gonna be receiving over um eleven million dollars of ARPA funding. [0:26:22, 0:26:42]: And we do have uh there's an increase and I know that we've done uh what we do in the end of the year for the employees, I I believe that we should put an incentive out there to our employees during these times, uh portion of that opera fund, even if it's not with$500 per employee, uh and with those that have had uh vaccinated and and an incentive for those to get vaccinated. [0:26:42, 0:26:45]: Uh, I like for council to have that type of discussion. [0:26:45, 0:26:48]: Uh, we only have eighty something employees in that uh [0:26:48, 0:26:59]: We're we're we're we're not even talking uh we're not even talking fifty thousand dollars out of over eleven million dollars of funding that we're gonna be getting. So I would like the council to have some type of discussion of [0:26:59, 0:27:04]: some type of incentive to get to the employees uh pertaining to uh [0:27:04, 0:27:12]: vaccinations uh and to an incentive for those that are vaccinated already. Are you looking to have that discussion at the following meeting? [0:27:12, 0:27:14]: So because we already just adopted the agenda. [0:27:15, 0:27:22]: Uh the agendas w we're we're going through amendings right now. Well we just we just we we just went to [0:27:22, 0:27:32]: We just didn't approve an amendment to the agenda. Well, we we pro approved and we should approved the entire agenda. That's what I was getting at. We went through several amendments. Now it's uh was approving the rest of the agenda so we can go forward. [0:27:33, 0:27:48]: I believe that's what I asked for. You just you I'm forgiving that noise. You just approved several amendments to the agenda. What I'm saying, we haven't adopted total agenda. I thought I just asked for that just a second ago. Ms. Clerk, what what what did we just vote on, Plam? [0:27:49, 0:27:54]: You voted um to adopt the agenda um for zero, but [0:27:55, 0:28:15]: At any time you can make an amendment. So I thought I thought we adopted, we just adopted and rested uh the overall agenda now after making all those amendments. But you want to add now something else in reference to discussion uh of this in reference to ARPA funds and additional funding incentives for uh I guess our employees, which we have not had any time. [0:28:14, 0:28:17]: type of background information I don't think on this. [0:28:17, 0:28:20]: or uh data or a thought process uh [0:28:21, 0:28:25]: So well well Merritt, the the back the background information is that [0:28:25, 0:28:31]: incentives through several cities are uh separate cities are given these incentives because they are receiving offer funding. [0:28:31, 0:28:47]: Uh you and if you if you looked at the news today, there's a discussion even in the Henry County. I'm talking for the city of Stockbridge. I'm talking about us giving our employees at least$500 incentives for those that are vaccinated and uh uh and those that are working during these times of this pandemic. [0:28:47, 0:28:53]: Uh out of author funding, which not even won't even total over fifty thousand dollars and we're getting over eleven million dollars of funding from author. [0:28:55, 0:28:59]: I see. Mayor uh Councilman Thomas, go ahead, please. [0:28:59, 0:29:06]: I'm I'm I'm sorry, Miss Barber. I didn't see your hand. Mr. Thomas, stand by. Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [0:29:07, 0:29:11]: I'll yield a councilman Thomas. Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. [0:29:11, 0:29:15]: I I I I don't have a a problem with that, but what I would prefer [0:29:15, 0:29:18]: Uh for the treasurer to [0:29:19, 0:29:22]: uh pull some numbers. I know that um [0:29:22, 0:29:31]: The police department have used some of that funding source. I know Public Works has used some of that funding source. [0:29:31, 0:29:37]: um for the allocation for this year I do understand that that will be um [0:29:39, 0:29:59]: Uh, I'm not sure if that's gonna be another allocation uh in 2022 or going forward, but I'd like for the treasurer to um give us some data uh before we make that kind of decision. And hopefully if if the council is willing to entertain this discussion and if if it's agenda item 31. [0:29:58, 0:30:01]: I think by that time if the treasure could um [0:30:02, 0:30:05]: um, you know, pull the numbers together so we can so we can sort of [0:30:06, 0:30:06]: Um [0:30:06, 0:30:08]: Sort of know what we're dealing with. [0:30:10, 0:30:12]: Yeah, I can give you some numbers now. [0:30:13, 0:30:14]: Well, I I don't wanna [0:30:14, 0:30:20]: Tied a meeting up. Uh well anyway, Mayor, it I I'm gonna yield back to you. Okay, thank you. Miss Barber, you had a comment, ma'am? [0:30:22, 0:30:23]: Yeah, never mind. I just [0:30:24, 0:30:31]: Okay. Well, the whole point was to add it to the agenda. Second. Let's add it to the agenda and then let's move on. [0:30:32, 0:30:33]: Okay. [0:30:33, 0:30:40]: So so miss make sure we understand this right. Mr. Blount, you want to make a a formal motion because I'm not make sure the clerks got this down right. [0:30:40, 0:30:41]: What's your motion, sir? [0:30:41, 0:30:52]: From a motion to add a discussion for um funding or for opera funding to go as an incentive to our employees uh agenda item 31 to be determined by the council. [0:30:53, 0:30:55]: All right. All in favor, please indicate. [0:30:56, 0:30:58]: All right. So it'll be item number thirty one. [0:31:03, 0:31:03]: Mm-hmm. [0:31:04, 0:31:09]: Let's keep it moving tonight, y'all. It don't have to be long-winded. Just second. [0:31:11, 0:31:21]: All right, on that note, uh what we have before you adoption of the minutes. Just so happens that last meeting we did not approve these particular minutes. So that's the draft retreat minutes from the September 15th. [0:31:22, 0:31:29]: Draft retreat minutes from uh uh six September 16th and also the 17th. Special call meeting minutes from September 20th. [0:31:30, 0:31:38]: Council meeting minutes from uh October 11th, work session meeting uh minutes from October 26th, draft minutes um [0:31:39, 0:31:47]: From November 8th and draft minutes from um November 30th. Need a motion to accept all these particular minutes, folks. [0:31:47, 0:31:51]: Okay. So move Mayor potent okay. Okay. So move Mayor uh uh [0:31:51, 0:31:55]: Barber, uh second to uh Alexander, all favor, please indicate. [0:31:58, 0:32:00]: Okay. Okay. See now it's okay. Good deal. [0:32:01, 0:32:03]: Miss Holiday, any public comments? [0:32:03, 0:32:13]: There are no public comments, Mayor. All right, great. Now we'll go on to old business and that is a continuation of our public hearing involving the third reading as it continues. [0:32:13, 0:32:17]: uh with the adoption of the budget for twenty twenty two. [0:32:17, 0:32:20]: On that note, uh Mr. Wiggins. [0:32:20, 0:32:20]: Sir. [0:32:24, 0:32:25]: Okay, Mayor. Um [0:32:26, 0:32:27]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. [0:32:28, 0:32:29]: Um [0:32:29, 0:32:31]: I'm gonna try to share my screen here. [0:32:38, 0:32:38]: Okay. [0:32:39, 0:32:40]: Can everybody see that? [0:32:41, 0:32:41]: Couple. [0:32:41, 0:32:42]: We can. [0:32:43, 0:32:44]: All right. [0:32:46, 0:32:50]: This is the uh city of stockbridge proposed FY twenty twenty two. [0:32:50, 0:32:53]: Budget hearing, third reading, continuation. [0:32:53, 0:32:55]: For December twenty first. [0:32:55, 0:32:56]: Twenty twenty one. [0:32:57, 0:32:58]: Um [0:32:59, 0:33:00]: From the last meeting. [0:33:01, 0:33:04]: We had some changes. Uh council went through and made some changes. [0:33:05, 0:33:07]: All the changes have been put through uh [0:33:09, 0:33:13]: With those changes, we now have general fund at eighteen [0:33:13, 0:33:17]: Million three hundred eighty thousand nine hundred and ninety three dollars and twelve cents. [0:33:18, 0:33:21]: Enterprise funds come at twenty five million. [0:33:22, 0:33:23]: One hundred and sixty four. [0:33:24, 0:33:27]: Thousand seven hundred and sixty eight dollars and ninety five cents. [0:33:27, 0:33:28]: We have a total [0:33:29, 0:33:33]: For the budget, it's forty three million five hundred forty five dollars seventy two. [0:33:34, 0:33:35]: Dollars and seven cents. [0:33:36, 0:33:36]: Mayor. [0:33:37, 0:33:37]: Yes, sir. [0:33:38, 0:33:45]: See, see, Mr. Wiggins, this is the problem that I have. We're talking about the general fund budget. That's what we're talking about. [0:33:46, 0:33:58]: This confuses people saying putting the enterprise number up there. We're talk the budget we're talking about right now is the general fund budget. That budget is$18 million. [0:33:58, 0:34:18]: We need to be comparing apples to apples. We never talk about the budget in terms of this uh lumped-in number. Every year we talk about the budget in terms of the general fund number. That is the number that the public needs to see and focus on because that's what we're talking about in terms of uh balancing the balanced budget each year. [0:34:18, 0:34:22]: year is the general fund number and it confuses folks. [0:34:22, 0:34:25]: Казлас метін. [0:34:25, 0:34:34]: It was a discussion that said, Oh, we went from 18 million to four from twelve million to forty-three million. No, we didn't, because we don't ever really talk about. [0:34:34, 0:34:37]: The enterprise budget in this context. [0:34:37, 0:34:38]: But at the uh total [0:34:38, 0:34:42]: uh budgetary meeting. So the public needs to understand [0:34:42, 0:34:44]: We're talking about the gender role. [0:34:44, 0:34:48]: fun budget year to year tonight. That's what we're talking about. [0:34:52, 0:34:56]: All right, and then I understand that councilman, but when you're trying to approve [0:34:57, 0:35:00]: the budget, you need to hear the whole the total budget to approve it. [0:35:02, 0:35:06]: Not just the journal fund, even though the journal fund is the main fund that's always talked about. [0:35:07, 0:35:10]: In this particular discussion, you always want to try to prove [0:35:10, 0:35:11]: The total budget. [0:35:12, 0:35:12]: Go on. [0:35:13, 0:35:16]: Right, we're approving the general fund budget tonight, is that correct? [0:35:17, 0:35:19]: No, you're approving the whole budget. [0:35:20, 0:35:23]: Right, but the focus of this is the general fund budget. [0:35:24, 0:35:27]: Okay, well I I can focus on nothing but the journal fund there. [0:35:28, 0:35:33]: Is that the consent of the rest of the council? Is that what you want? Yes, sir. [0:35:33, 0:35:39]: If we're going to focus on a general fund budget, then where's the presentation with just the general fund budget? [0:35:39, 0:35:41]: I agree with that too. [0:35:42, 0:35:42]: Yeah. [0:35:43, 0:35:52]: Well I've I I would imagine that that's not what the the uh Mr. Wiggins as a as a treasurer is going through the entire budget is what how he for sees it, what he needs to do. [0:35:53, 0:35:53]: Yeah. [0:35:54, 0:35:57]: Yeah, Mary, I'm sorry to cut you up because if we're gonna break this down. [0:35:58, 0:35:59]: We're still breaking down. [0:36:00, 0:36:08]: The 43 plus million dollars. If we're gonna break down the general fund budget, then find and then we we look at the avenues where we can get. [0:36:09, 0:36:12]: The focus tonight and what the citizens want to see. [0:36:12, 0:36:18]: Is I agree they want to see first of all, we can go with the overall budget. [0:36:18, 0:36:25]: But then let's go in increments. Let's break the general fund budget down and find out how do we come to an agreement. [0:36:25, 0:36:40]: on the general fund budget, and then we expand out through the overall budget with all the other entities and and parameters of that. Uh there has to be a progression of this shown versus this impact that we're seeing now. [0:36:40, 0:36:41]: Okay. [0:36:42, 0:36:46]: So Ms. Wiggins, on that note, can you can pr you can explain the budget this way for twenty twenty two? [0:36:47, 0:36:51]: Right right now I have showing just the general fund changes. [0:36:51, 0:36:54]: Okay. So we can just go through the general fund changes. [0:36:54, 0:36:59]: All right, go ahead. Right if I could f follow up on that. That's exactly what I'm saying. [0:36:59, 0:37:11]: That first number gives a uh uh a a uh distortion because there's no document or anything following up on that. All there is is the general fund. So let's stick with this. Thank you. [0:37:13, 0:37:15]: Ms. Barber, you have a question? [0:37:16, 0:37:20]: Um actually I wanted to make a motion. There are [0:37:20, 0:37:22]: Several changes that I'd like [0:37:22, 0:37:25]: Um to vote on really quickly. [0:37:25, 0:37:27]: And it returns to the virgin one. [0:37:27, 0:37:28]: All right, dude. [0:37:30, 0:37:31]: And I know this is the [0:37:31, 0:37:32]: Yeah. [0:37:32, 0:37:33]: But if [0:37:34, 0:37:38]: My councilmates will just indulge me just for a minute. [0:37:38, 0:37:41]: Um, I'd like to make a motion to add an employee and volunteer. [0:37:41, 0:37:43]: Recognition lunches. [0:37:44, 0:37:44]: Um [0:37:45, 0:37:46]: Next year in December. [0:37:47, 0:37:49]: Uh with the budget amount of [0:37:50, 0:37:51]: Twenty thousand dollars. [0:37:54, 0:38:02]: Well, let me let me mention this. We typically, it wasn't for the pandemic, we typically have a luncheon for employees. Now I don't I doubt very soon it's been twenty thousand dollars. [0:38:02, 0:38:05]: Yeah, I don't think it's been that much, but we typically do that anyway. [0:38:05, 0:38:08]: Uh and that's when we when we do that. [0:38:09, 0:38:10]: Mr. Wayne. [0:38:10, 0:38:12]: Is that in the budget? I'd like to um fund that. [0:38:13, 0:38:14]: And make sure. [0:38:16, 0:38:18]: These are great questions that [0:38:18, 0:38:20]: You're saying uh far as the luncheon. [0:38:20, 0:38:25]: Yes. Yeah, we normally you we normally uh will have the luncheon in um [0:38:25, 0:38:27]: Where would I find that in the budget? [0:38:27, 0:38:30]: Uh you have to look up on the um [0:38:31, 0:38:33]: The executive budget. [0:38:33, 0:38:35]: And um I have to look on sometimes [0:38:35, 0:38:38]: We put money in there for the and and through HR. [0:38:40, 0:38:40]: Hospitality. [0:38:42, 0:38:48]: And then I want to ensure that there is money allocated for it. So I'd like to make a motion for it. Is that okay? [0:38:50, 0:38:51]: But it [0:38:51, 0:38:52]: So [0:38:52, 0:39:02]: What I'm getting at, we have we haven't we typically have that anyway. We have that I I I don't think it's twenty thousand dollars, but we typically have a a a a a holiday um [0:39:03, 0:39:08]: Lunching for all the employees. And this year we had something similar. [0:39:08, 0:39:10]: You're talking about volunteer recognition for [0:39:11, 0:39:15]: Oh o of the people that are not employees. Is that what you're referring to? For us to continue that. [0:39:16, 0:39:16]: I'm sorry. [0:39:17, 0:39:20]: For employees and волонтерs. [0:39:21, 0:39:22]: Oh, the Tio. [0:39:22, 0:39:23]: Okay. [0:39:23, 0:39:26]: We did in twenty eighteen, the gala gala that we had. [0:39:26, 0:39:27]: Right. [0:39:27, 0:39:28]: Yeah, can you? [0:39:29, 0:39:30]: I'd like to make a motion. [0:39:32, 0:39:34]: Hopefully I'll support for my councilmates. [0:39:37, 0:39:40]: May Mayor Fort. Yes, sir. Go ahead, sir. Um [0:39:41, 0:39:46]: I I'm going to second that I I I think it is uh I do understand um [0:39:47, 0:39:52]: Historically, we have had a a luncheon for employees. [0:39:52, 0:39:57]: uh during the holidays. I understand that and because of the pandemic we did not [0:39:57, 0:40:01]: Uh, but I think it will still be uh a great activity. [0:40:01, 0:40:21]: uh if we recognize uh our all of the volunteers, uh the board members, um, because you know all of the the board members are volunteers and um you know we are infringing on their time even though they volunteer uh to be on these boards. Uh it's all about you know moving the city. [0:40:21, 0:40:25]: it forward. So I just think that we should [0:40:26, 0:40:29]: Um sometime in twenty twenty two. [0:40:29, 0:40:43]: um have an event where we reach out and we thank all of our uh board members and volunteers. I I I think because we're all in this together and we we need these type of um [0:40:43, 0:41:03]: uh partnerships, um, you know, collaborations. You know, we have a lot of uh businesses that donate to a lot of um our initiatives, a lot of things that the city is doing. So I just think that we should incorporate uh some activity where we say thank you to our citizens. [0:41:03, 0:41:11]: To our business owners, to everyone that's in this with the city of Stybridge, making sure that we are creating a quality of life. [0:41:11, 0:41:26]: uh for the city of Stockbridge. And you know, we're all in this together moving forward. So I was second that and I think that would be a great activity for the City of Stockbridge to host to say thank you to all of our partners. [0:41:28, 0:41:31]: My motion is made in a second at uh any further discussion. [0:41:31, 0:41:37]: Yeah. Yes. [0:41:37, 0:41:48]: Yeah, first of all, I have this is the first I've heard of this. So how did we come up with the twenty thousand dollar amount? Who what did what is that number based on? It there are concerns about the amount. [0:41:48, 0:41:54]: Well where did you come up with the twenty thousand from? I'm just saying up to twenty thousand. [0:41:55, 0:41:58]: Right, but when we normally do these things we kinda have like a number. [0:41:59, 0:42:04]: on what we're going to do. So you just how did you come up with a twenty thousand dollar number that you want to go up to? [0:42:05, 0:42:06]: Right. I just threw out a number. [0:42:07, 0:42:12]: Right. So Mike, Mike, we want to go back to the staff and get them to look at a number in terms of [0:42:13, 0:42:15]: putting something together to be able to [0:42:15, 0:42:17]: uh come up with a adequate number or we just [0:42:18, 0:42:20]: comfortable with just saying twenty thousand dollars. [0:42:21, 0:42:25]: I believe the city um paid roughly [0:42:26, 0:42:27]: Forty. [0:42:27, 0:42:29]: plus thousand in twenty eighteen. [0:42:31, 0:42:35]: I just took a rough estimate and just said twenty. [0:42:36, 0:42:38]: I will um decrease that. [0:42:39, 0:42:43]: Why don't we that's what that's what I'm saying. Why don't we get a number? [0:42:43, 0:42:45]: These are not to exceed. [0:42:46, 0:42:55]: Not to exceed amounts. All I'm trying to do is make sure that we get it in the budget right now before we finalize it. [0:42:55, 0:42:58]: Yes, if it's necessary for staff to take a look. [0:43:00, 0:43:02]: At what the previous [0:43:02, 0:43:05]: budget was for it, that's fine. I'm okay with that. [0:43:06, 0:43:08]: I just want to make sure that we add. [0:43:09, 0:43:11]: this event to recognize these individuals. [0:43:12, 0:43:14]: In our community partners, that's all. [0:43:14, 0:43:15]: Please. [0:43:15, 0:43:16]: Back and forth. [0:43:17, 0:43:18]: Because it's not necessary. [0:43:18, 0:43:21]: Do I not need to add an amount? [0:43:23, 0:43:43]: Well, I would think that if we're gonna lose the budget for twenty twenty two, we need some type of of uh amount. And obviously this is the first I've heard of as well. And uh so I I have no idea what that uh a good uh solid amount would be in this aspect. And a couple of your councilmates uh want to be recognized. So stand by. [0:43:43, 0:43:46]: Whether this is a separate event. [0:43:46, 0:43:51]: Or whether it's the same it is not this is not gonna be a part of the luncheon. This is a new event. [0:43:53, 0:43:55]: Is that correct, Miss Barber? This is a new [0:43:56, 0:43:57]: It's a new event. [0:43:57, 0:43:59]: That is correct. [0:43:59, 0:44:00]: This is not a lunch. [0:44:01, 0:44:02]: Okay, this is a new event. Okay. [0:44:06, 0:44:07]: All right, duh. [0:44:07, 0:44:11]: Uh you're okay, so uh Councilman Blount, uh maybe you were next. [0:44:12, 0:44:19]: Yeah, Mayor, um I would like, you know, I have I have no problem with us recognizing volunteers. Uh [0:44:19, 0:44:24]: for the city, but I'm in agreement. I guess it's my first time hearing it also. [0:44:24, 0:44:28]: Um but when you have accounts for the uh executive account. [0:44:28, 0:44:32]: uh budget and the HR budget that we do have funding in right now. [0:44:33, 0:44:41]: I think to find out what fundings we can use from those counts that's already there would be for us. And when we talk about an event in 2018. [0:44:42, 0:44:49]: That was event that was mo mu uh monumentus event that was anomal anomaly to anything that we would do. We had just come out of uh [0:44:49, 0:45:04]: uh you know really uh stop reason being kept whole and those that are on the uh those those soldiers that we uh recognize that was on the f ground running that was putting up their time, money and efforts and all this that was just so that type of event was uh uh [0:45:04, 0:45:22]: was really one that that I I think the whole council at the time wanted to say, hey, we need to we we need to really make that event shine in that type of way. We obvious I I'm obviously believing that uh recognizing uh volunteers are is a good thing, but we I think that to have something formulated [0:45:22, 0:45:26]: That staff can work on and and a template that we could go off of rather than just [0:45:27, 0:45:34]: Come on here throwing out a twenty thousand dollar budget and then say, Well, I'm really cut this down. I think to really get that formulated itself. [0:45:34, 0:45:41]: Uh and see how we move forward because we already have it and need to add a little bit more, it will still be in the purview of the uh city manager to do that. [0:45:42, 0:45:52]: Uh so I I just think that we have to be careful and cautious how many city events along with initiative that we're putting out there, remember we still have an amphitheater that's gonna have an event schedule also. [0:45:52, 0:45:55]: So I think that some collaborations on all fronts need to be kind of [0:45:56, 0:46:02]: You know, we we might need to pump our brakes with so much that we're adding because we do have an amphitheater that's gonna be [0:46:02, 0:46:08]: up and vibrant next year as well. So um I I I just think we we we need to let staff [0:46:08, 0:46:17]: Get uh you know, go to the drawing board and say where can we put this? How much money this something like this would cost? And and it won't definitely won't be at the uh magnitude of twenty eighteen. [0:46:18, 0:46:20]: Okay, um Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. [0:46:22, 0:46:27]: The motion that I believe that I heard from uh Councilwoman Barber. [0:46:28, 0:46:31]: Uh she said up up two twenty. [0:46:31, 0:46:38]: I I would recommend uh Councilwoman Barber to add to the motion uh to test staff. [0:46:39, 0:46:40]: uh to research. [0:46:41, 0:46:43]: Um the motion has been made. [0:46:44, 0:46:46]: In the motion it said up to twenty. [0:46:46, 0:46:49]: Um none of this is written in stone. [0:46:49, 0:46:50]: Uh, I know we sort of [0:46:51, 0:46:59]: discussing, discussing, discussing, but I just recommend Councilman Bob just include in your motion to um [0:46:59, 0:47:03]: um to ask staff to to do the research and and ladies and gentlemen. [0:47:04, 0:47:12]: Let's let's move on. The motion said up to 20,000. Let the staff do the research and then once that happened, we can discuss this further. [0:47:13, 0:47:16]: Uh oh I'm I'm okay with that and we can add that in there. [0:47:18, 0:47:20]: Is Barber? [0:47:20, 0:47:21]: Amend my motion. [0:47:21, 0:47:23]: To test ad. [0:47:23, 0:47:25]: with doing the research. [0:47:27, 0:47:27]: I see I can. [0:47:29, 0:47:29]: And [0:47:30, 0:47:31]: Oh, I forgot. Not um [0:47:32, 0:47:33]: Present. [0:47:33, 0:47:35]: Do not exceed twenty thousand miles. [0:47:35, 0:47:38]: Twenty thousand dollars, I'm sorry. [0:47:39, 0:47:40]: Okay. [0:47:40, 0:47:42]: Mr. Thomas, you second that, right, sir? [0:47:42, 0:47:44]: Yes. Okay. [0:47:45, 0:47:46]: Uh, all in favor, please indicate. [0:47:48, 0:47:50]: And Mr. Blount, uh I guess you approved that as well. [0:47:51, 0:47:59]: Yeah, the only reason I'm abstaining because we have uh we have people in place to let us know whether we may not even have to [0:47:59, 0:48:05]: We're pr we're we're bringing stuff to approve such as this when funding could could may as well already be there. [0:48:06, 0:48:23]: You know, we're adding funding in place that funding could may may as well already be there. While we continue to add funding for events and things, this could have been vetted long before. Not you don't know anything about it, mayor. I don't know anything about it. Mr. Alexander said he doesn't know anything about it. This could have been vetted. [0:48:23, 0:48:38]: prior to this meeting and brought to us and said, hey, either the funding is there now we're saying up to some. We can't come and start asking for these type of fundings and then let's go figure out where we're gonna get it for. Well let's just add, it may already be in here. [0:48:38, 0:48:42]: That if that's an idea, this idea didn't just come up right now. [0:48:43, 0:48:46]: Vet the idea and let's see where we go with that idea. [0:48:46, 0:48:52]: Not not just all c continue to come over here and say up to this, up to this, the funding may already be there. So why are we [0:48:53, 0:49:02]: Going through this and prolonging it, it's just been I I just I I abstain there. All right, no problem. It passes 301. Hi, Miss Barber. You said you had a couple other things. [0:49:02, 0:49:05]: Yes, please. Um I'd like to make a motion. [0:49:05, 0:49:06]: To [0:49:07, 0:49:15]: Task staff with advertising for the grants administrator position under police services. [0:49:15, 0:49:19]: Um and task staff were doing the research, the paying class. [0:49:20, 0:49:22]: uh for this position for a grants administrator. [0:49:23, 0:49:24]: At the [0:49:24, 0:49:27]: I think it falls within sixty five thousand dollars falls within. [0:49:28, 0:49:31]: the range based on the DCA. [0:49:32, 0:49:32]: Um [0:49:32, 0:49:34]: link that I did, but [0:49:34, 0:49:38]: Task them to do their paying class research and advertising for this position. [0:49:39, 0:49:41]: Post a position in January. [0:49:41, 0:49:42]: Um and [0:49:43, 0:49:45]: Chief Tramer already has his position. [0:49:46, 0:49:47]: listed on this or chart. [0:49:48, 0:49:51]: Chief Tramer, is the title of that position? [0:49:51, 0:49:53]: Grants administrator. [0:49:54, 0:49:54]: Getting it. [0:49:55, 0:49:56]: I don't know if it's the coordinator or the [0:49:57, 0:50:06]: No, it was a a finance and grants manager, but we could modify that to a grant administrator with the stipulations that you [0:50:06, 0:50:10]: made regarding salary. I think that would be a fair salary for that position specifically. [0:50:12, 0:50:13]: Well [0:50:13, 0:50:18]: If it's just a title change that I need to make in my motion, I'll do that. [0:50:18, 0:50:21]: Can you repeat that title again, please? [0:50:22, 0:50:25]: Yes, it's a uh finance and grants manager. [0:50:29, 0:50:30]: Okay. [0:50:31, 0:50:34]: We want to find that position for twenty twenty two. [0:50:35, 0:50:40]: um with a salary of 65,000. I think that falls in the range. [0:50:41, 0:50:43]: That's my motion. Okay, is there a second to the motion? [0:50:45, 0:50:46]: That's okay. [0:50:46, 0:50:50]: Commare uh councilman Thomas Second's that. Commeror put him you had your hand up. [0:50:50, 0:50:56]: Yeah, I wanna understand it the position is in the police department now, cause it is it they're only gonna be doing [0:50:57, 0:51:06]: Uh are they are they gonna be in the police department? Because again we're bringing on a new city manager, we're creating this position. Might it be helpful that the [0:51:06, 0:51:17]: uh that it be citywide uh so the position can apply for grants for all of us or it's under the police department. There's a particular reason that it's under the police department. [0:51:17, 0:51:31]: Right now, the police department is priority and having a grants person in place right now to focus on acquiring all of those items that the police department will need. I believe that is. [0:51:31, 0:51:35]: Critical. You see, he's bringing forward things right now. [0:51:35, 0:51:39]: We're using farm funding for it. If we had a grants professional here. [0:51:40, 0:51:47]: They may have identified some grants. So the sooner the better. For both of them, remember, I asked for us to fund. [0:51:47, 0:51:50]: Two positions, two rent positions. [0:51:51, 0:51:51]: We only need. [0:51:53, 0:51:56]: Right. [0:51:56, 0:52:04]: Is priority. I figured let's feel it now. He already has the position, the job description, all of that is already in place. [0:52:06, 0:52:15]: My position is that this position needs to be under the city manager so they can apply for grass. Of course, that position can also be. [0:52:15, 0:52:21]: apply for grants for the police department and every department for trails, for everything. Somebody specific. [0:52:22, 0:52:34]: With those qualifications, why are they just limited to be under the police department? They're not applying for grants just for the police department. We don't need but one person and that person can apply for grants for everybody. [0:52:35, 0:52:38]: Okay, that's fine. I'm I'm fine with that. So we'll stick with [0:52:39, 0:52:40]: Um the original [0:52:42, 0:52:42]: Um [0:52:44, 0:52:45]: Job title. [0:52:45, 0:52:46]: That I suggested. [0:52:46, 0:52:50]: grants administrator and it should be an individual who [0:52:51, 0:52:52]: Газперієць і [0:52:53, 0:52:55]: Uh community development bro block grants. [0:52:56, 0:52:56]: Right. [0:52:57, 0:53:05]: Items that are needed for police services. Let's move on. Well, let me ask this. I I believe there's always a grant already a grant writer on the org chart. [0:53:06, 0:53:07]: With the treasure, is that not right? [0:53:08, 0:53:08]: And [0:53:09, 0:53:11]: It is true, but it's not funded though. [0:53:11, 0:53:14]: They're just positions. [0:53:16, 0:53:20]: I'm trying to fund these positions. I did ask at the last [0:53:20, 0:53:26]: couple of meetings ago to move the p the grants position that is currently under [0:53:26, 0:53:28]: Mr Wiggins. [0:53:28, 0:53:32]: Move that under the city manager on the org chart. [0:53:34, 0:53:43]: That's my I'm okay with that. I just don't think it should be under just the police. I want grants for everybody. And I think the police department can have it. So I'm okay with that just as long as it's [0:53:43, 0:53:48]: uh a overall arching under the city manager so that person has that [0:53:48, 0:53:55]: uh could uh has that control and I want the city manager to be empowered to control these things. Yeah. Thank you. [0:53:56, 0:54:01]: Per second. Can we all right. So does that does that now equate to the same motion that was seconded though? I'd I'm [0:54:02, 0:54:08]: Uh'cause your motion dealt with the police department. I now we're leaning towards five. I my original motion. [0:54:08, 0:54:09]: Okay. [0:54:09, 0:54:10]: No. [0:54:11, 0:54:13]: My motion is that we task staff. [0:54:14, 0:54:21]: with um identifying or researching the paying class for grants administrator position. [0:54:22, 0:54:23]: Find that position. [0:54:24, 0:54:27]: На токсе фази. [0:54:28, 0:54:31]: In addition to my motion, I'm tasking staff [0:54:31, 0:54:32]: The post [0:54:33, 0:54:34]: The job description. [0:54:35, 0:54:37]: In Janu beginning in January. [0:54:38, 0:54:42]: And leave the job description there until an offer has been accepted. [0:54:43, 0:54:51]: Now I initially said um under police services because I know that Chief Tramor already has a job description. [0:54:51, 0:54:53]: Under his department. [0:54:53, 0:54:59]: So are we able to use that job description, maybe make some tweaks to it? [0:54:59, 0:55:00]: Um [0:55:01, 0:55:04]: Or is there already a job description? [0:55:05, 0:55:10]: I I would think the job description already exists for that for that previous one. [0:55:10, 0:55:16]: Well, this one would be for a grants administrator. I believe what is listed under the treasurer. [0:55:17, 0:55:22]: The title is different and the responsibilities more than likely will be different. [0:55:22, 0:55:24]: Is that correct, Mr. Wiggins? [0:55:24, 0:55:27]: Yeah, I think it's a grants coordinator. Um [0:55:27, 0:55:29]: But cheap was it? [0:55:29, 0:55:32]: Was your position um [0:55:32, 0:55:36]: Did it have money associated or j or was it just one position that you [0:55:36, 0:55:38]: was looking for in the future. [0:55:39, 0:55:45]: Uh, this position would be responsible for uh police department procurements and working with your I mean to I'm [0:55:45, 0:55:47]: I'm asking did it have a salary? [0:55:48, 0:55:50]: No, it did. It had a salary range. It it did. [0:55:51, 0:55:53]: It was so it was in your budget for now. [0:55:55, 0:55:56]: It was an unfunded position. [0:55:57, 0:55:59]: Those are unfunding positions. So you [0:55:59, 0:56:00]: It has to be funded. [0:56:01, 0:56:02]: This position here. [0:56:02, 0:56:03]: has to be funded. [0:56:05, 0:56:05]: Yes. [0:56:06, 0:56:09]: Okay. So you're asking for additional six sixty five thousand. [0:56:10, 0:56:11]: And probably [0:56:12, 0:56:15]: twenty twenty three percent of benefits to be added to [0:56:16, 0:56:17]: The city manager's budget. [0:56:18, 0:56:19]: Yes. [0:56:21, 0:56:22]: Yes. [0:56:23, 0:56:24]: Okay. Yeah. [0:56:26, 0:56:27]: I saw [0:56:28, 0:56:34]: Ms. Holliday, could you repeat back the motion to make sure we have this right, please? Make sure it's accurate. [0:56:35, 0:56:38]: Yes, sir. The motion made by Councilwoman Barber. [0:56:40, 0:56:42]: is to [0:56:43, 0:56:46]: Bring in a grants administrator position. [0:56:48, 0:56:52]: А ситі файта, на токси файтазен долар. [0:56:53, 0:56:57]: to move the position from the finance department to the city manager's department. [0:56:58, 0:57:02]: Leave the position there until an offer has been accepted. [0:57:03, 0:57:04]: And [0:57:05, 0:57:10]: The amount again 65,000 plus 23% for benefits. [0:57:11, 0:57:20]: And I believe this is scheduled. The title is Grants Administrator. And I believe this is scheduled to start next month, January. Is that correct? Post post the position in January 2022. [0:57:20, 0:57:21]: Yeah. [0:57:21, 0:57:28]: Miss, I just want one more question if I could uh well stand by for a second before you ask that question. Miss Barber, is that the motion that you wanted? [0:57:30, 0:57:35]: Okay. Go ahead, uh Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. Yeah, Ms. Wheeler on the call. Yes, she is. [0:57:35, 0:57:40]: Okay. Uh we have a salary range with for this position. Does she have it or no? [0:57:42, 0:57:48]: She's here, you hears you. The salary range for a grants administrator is what you're asking for? [0:57:48, 0:57:49]: You're right. [0:57:50, 0:57:51]: We do not have that. [0:57:52, 0:57:54]: I will have to add that to the pay plan. [0:57:55, 0:57:58]: Because the grants position that's under the finance department. [0:57:59, 0:58:00]: was a [0:58:00, 0:58:01]: Um [0:58:03, 0:58:04]: Contract position. [0:58:05, 0:58:09]: We went out, we we were asking for a contractor to come in and do that. [0:58:09, 0:58:12]: So we would need to add that to the pay plan. [0:58:12, 0:58:14]: And go out and do a [0:58:15, 0:58:18]: A pay study to see what the pay range should be for that position. [0:58:19, 0:58:21]: Along with the job description. [0:58:21, 0:58:24]: I'll have to pull that together and submit it to council. [0:58:24, 0:58:27]: So how do we come up with the sixty five thousand dollars? [0:58:27, 0:58:30]: Because I did some research on grant administrator. [0:58:31, 0:58:32]: They based on the DA. [0:58:33, 0:58:35]: You will look at calorie range here. [0:58:36, 0:58:40]: So my motion will is in is to include [0:58:41, 0:58:43]: have staff to do the research. [0:58:43, 0:58:46]: Just uh staff to do the research. Thank you. [0:58:50, 0:58:52]: That motion's been made. Has it has it actually been seconded? [0:58:54, 0:58:55]: Second. [0:58:56, 0:58:58]: Okay, Councilman Thomas seconds that motion any further discussion. [0:59:01, 0:59:10]: Okay, all favorite motion, please indicate. Mayor, you can't see me. I cannot. I I I I could not see you, sir, because the way the no, what's what's on your mind, sir? Go ahead. [0:59:11, 0:59:12]: Bear once again [0:59:13, 0:59:14]: We as council members. [0:59:15, 0:59:18]: Have to get with staff before we start spewing out numbers. [0:59:19, 0:59:28]: Uh there was nowhere that we can find where$65,000 came from from our HR. Not council members, but from our [0:59:28, 0:59:35]: HR department that the that can show us the wages of these different positions. [0:59:35, 0:59:40]: And I believe that we're moving a little prematurely if we want our city manager to determine. [0:59:40, 0:59:48]: Whether that position needs to be under him or under finance. This is why you have department heads. You have the head of finance, you have positions under it. [0:59:49, 0:59:58]: We're moving a little prematurely for positions and we're putting amounts on these positions that are that HR didn't even have. [0:59:59, 1:00:06]: We're the elected body and we can say we want these positions, but ask HR and SD different entities to bring us the information. [1:00:06, 1:00:11]: We can't just say, hey, let's get a position, but we've never sit here and said. [1:00:11, 1:00:15]: We don't sit on here and say what we're gonna pay somebody and let's go get them. [1:00:16, 1:00:27]: And then we now put a face to the amount we said. We always get the person and then we put amount on them off a range that's given to us by HR. We're at we're doing this totally backwards right now. [1:00:27, 1:00:47]: I would ask this council to seek HR for the information we need. I would ask counselor to quit putting amounts out that HR doesn't have. I would ask counselor to wait on our city manager to come in and determine whether that position needs to be on him or on the on the finance head and that they report to the finance head and then he gets the information. [1:00:47, 1:00:48]: From there. [1:00:49, 1:01:07]: We're not to manage the city. We're here to set legislation and move with a legislative body. Why are we putting ourselves in the management of the city when we have a manager city manager coming? It makes no sense. And we have HR to give us exactly what we we don't have right now that we're being given by an elected official. [1:01:07, 1:01:09]: Makes no sense to me. [1:01:09, 1:01:13]: Mayor. Hold on a second. May uh Councilman Barber, go ahead, please. [1:01:13, 1:01:20]: This one as the call for the bottom, please. I have two NairPo Tim. [1:01:21, 1:01:28]: Yeah, I just I think what we got in the clarification was that the sixty five thousand dollars is going to be a placeholder. [1:01:28, 1:01:32]: And then we are tasking staff with actually doing the research. [1:01:32, 1:01:33]: Is that correct? [1:01:34, 1:01:34]: That's correct. [1:01:35, 1:01:41]: Okay, that lets that so we need to make sure that we state it that way so everybody knows and understand again the task this tack. [1:01:41, 1:01:44]: is tasked with actually doing the work. We're not gonna skip that step. [1:01:45, 1:01:47]: Yeah, this is just a placeholder so that we [1:01:47, 1:01:52]: uh that we can um there is some funding allocated in the budget for the position. [1:01:53, 1:01:54]: Five thousand. [1:01:55, 1:01:58]: Right. So okay, thank you. Please call for the vote. [1:01:58, 1:02:02]: Mayor, question. Yeah, go ahead, Mayor. Um Mr Mr. Blount. [1:02:02, 1:02:06]: Ms. Wheeler's on the phone. What does she say that position range is? [1:02:08, 1:02:19]: If she doesn't have that position range, we don't know if we're falling below the range for this size city or what. These things should be vetted prior to this meeting. I I I I'm not against the position. [1:02:20, 1:02:24]: I'm against the procedure we're taking right now when it comes to these positions. [1:02:24, 1:02:33]: We got HR on the phone right now that should have a salary range if this was vetted prior to this meeting. Miss Weaver, do you have a salary range for this position? [1:02:34, 1:02:39]: Not for the position that Miss Barber is asking us to research for. [1:02:40, 1:02:43]: I only we we have to go out and do the research. [1:02:44, 1:02:47]: So I can pr get that information, get a job description for you. [1:02:47, 1:02:51]: along with the pay scale for the position so that you can approve it. [1:02:52, 1:02:55]: Bring it back to the council for approval. [1:02:56, 1:02:56]: Right. [1:02:57, 1:02:57]: Thank you. [1:02:58, 1:02:58]: All right. [1:02:59, 1:03:00]: Any other discussion? [1:03:01, 1:03:04]: All right. The motion has been made. It's been seconded. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:03:06, 1:03:18]: All right. Um Mayor, you'll have to call the vote because I'm able I'm a I'm proceed. Uh Barber, Alexander, and Thomas voted, uh approved it. Uh Councilman Blount, your vote please. [1:03:19, 1:03:22]: You said would you vote no or abstain? [1:03:23, 1:03:32]: I vote no, Mayor. We should HR needs to let us know about this position. Okay. Motion passed three one zero. Thank you. All right, Miss Barber, I think you had one more. [1:03:32, 1:03:37]: Yes, I want to confirm with the treasurer, the executive assistant to mayor and council position. [1:03:38, 1:03:40]: I want to make sure that it is funded. [1:03:41, 1:03:42]: It is, it's still in there. [1:03:43, 1:03:43]: Okay. [1:03:44, 1:03:55]: And well, I want to make a motion to task staff to begin advertising it and leave it open until an offer has been received. [1:03:56, 1:03:57]: Or accepted. [1:03:59, 1:04:01]: Is there a second? Is that a motion? [1:04:02, 1:04:06]: Discussion. Second. Member Pro Tem seconded that. So discussion. [1:04:10, 1:04:11]: No discussion. [1:04:12, 1:04:13]: Okay, all in favor of motion, please indicate. [1:04:15, 1:04:16]: Okay. [1:04:17, 1:04:29]: Yeah, you'll have to call the vote for me. Okay. Alexander, are you for the motion? Unanimous. Isn't that okay? So Barber, you had for it. Uh Mr. Blount, you voted for the motion? [1:04:31, 1:04:41]: And that's yes, it's unanimous. Okay, all right, all right. There you go. Um Thank you. You're welcome. And one more budget item. Um the youth council budget. [1:04:41, 1:04:44]: the I believe the first reading I don't know [1:04:44, 1:04:50]: I don't think it changed, but I believe it's at twenty one thousand. I want to reduce it by [1:04:50, 1:05:05]: 6,000. We've asked all departments areas where we can decrease their budgets. Um, so with this one, I like to just decrease it by six thousand dollars. We know now the youth department, youth. [1:05:06, 1:05:09]: Is gonna be partnering with the council. [1:05:10, 1:05:12]: And the city on some of our city events. [1:05:13, 1:05:13]: Um [1:05:13, 1:05:19]: I'd like to make a motion to reduce the youth council budget to fifteen thousand. [1:05:20, 1:05:21]: There is a second on the motion. [1:05:22, 1:05:23]: I see okay. [1:05:23, 1:05:26]: All right, Mr. Thomas Second, uh any further discussion? [1:05:27, 1:05:29]: Yes. Go ahead, Mr. Blount. [1:05:30, 1:05:38]: Mayor, you know, I I think that what's going on with our youth with the youth council right now is that the budget that's been set and that has been approved. [1:05:39, 1:05:49]: Uh if there's any funding that has not been used, it goes back into the general fund anyway. I think with the youth now uh with information of uh attending uh [1:05:50, 1:06:10]: uh various uh entities such as uh the uh uh cities united and and to be able to move about we can sit here and approve twenty thousand dollars to recognize volunteers when this is the volunteer position itself they're working with our youth while we reduce this budget and we're increasing other areas i i want us to be consistent in what we're doing i'm not gonna [1:06:10, 1:06:22]: gonna vote to decrease the youth council budget. I think it should stay where it has, where where it is, so the youth council can move about and do better and bigger and better things with our youth with it right now. If they don't use it, then it goes back into general funds anyway. [1:06:24, 1:06:25]: Okay, any further discussion? [1:06:27, 1:06:35]: I I have a question. So go ahead, Mr. Lanzar. So the number of the six thousand dollars. So we decided to cut that from the budget. [1:06:36, 1:06:40]: Because they didn't use it. What was the reason behind the six thousand dollar cut? [1:06:42, 1:06:45]: So the public understands. I just explained that. [1:06:46, 1:06:50]: When we spoke with several department heads, we asked them. [1:06:51, 1:06:53]: Where we can decrease the budget. [1:06:54, 1:06:55]: Just because these [1:06:56, 1:06:57]: proposals. [1:06:57, 1:06:58]: R bean. [1:06:58, 1:07:02]: provided to the council doesn't necessarily mean we have to approve it. [1:07:03, 1:07:07]: Mr. Wiggins, do you have the numbers from last year? [1:07:07, 1:07:08]: From the [1:07:09, 1:07:10]: Youth Council budget. [1:07:11, 1:07:12]: What their total [1:07:12, 1:07:13]: Year spin was [1:07:15, 1:07:17]: This year, well, can you tell me what it is? [1:07:17, 1:07:19]: For this year and last year. [1:07:21, 1:07:22]: Yeah. Um [1:07:24, 1:07:26]: And why is it actually? [1:07:26, 1:07:35]: why he's doing that. Ms. Barber, did you get a chance to talk to the director uh uh uh about there, Erica, about that reduction, your particular reduction here? [1:07:36, 1:07:36]: No. [1:07:37, 1:07:37]: I did not. [1:07:38, 1:07:38]: Okay. [1:07:39, 1:07:45]: I have not spoken other than all of the department heads who come to present to us. [1:07:45, 1:07:47]: Other than those? No, I have not. [1:07:47, 1:07:48]: Okay. [1:07:48, 1:07:50]: Mr. Blank, Mr. Blank, go ahead, please. [1:07:51, 1:07:52]: Mayor, you know [1:07:54, 1:08:04]: You know, that's the proper way of doing things. You you got a youth council budget. Do you know what? And when you talk about comparing last year, remember we're still in the middle of a pandemic here. [1:08:05, 1:08:10]: The use of a fundish funding is gonna be decreased at some point in time. [1:08:11, 1:08:17]: But we believe things are going to be better. So when when we we initially talked about putting this budget in. [1:08:17, 1:08:25]: Let the youth council flourish. When we start just throwing numbers out, let's decrease six thousand dollars and have we even sat down and had a talk with. [1:08:25, 1:08:29]: uh with the youth council the the the uh the person over the youth council [1:08:30, 1:08:38]: I mean, if you're saying you didn't talk to the department heads, wouldn't we talk to the volunteer that's over the youth council trying to removing funding and see if that funding is needed? [1:08:40, 1:08:42]: We're doing stuff so backwards here. It makes no sense to me. [1:08:43, 1:08:46]: You're not even talking to the people you're taking funding from. [1:08:46, 1:08:54]: Why are we decreasing the youth council funding when we're spending all this other money? Why why go in that direction? Makes no sense to me. [1:08:54, 1:08:56]: I just explained my my rationale. [1:08:58, 1:09:00]: Uh Mr. Wiggins, have you f you found that data yet, sir? [1:09:01, 1:09:04]: Looking for this year, but last year we spent about ten thousand. [1:09:05, 1:09:06]: And that's because a lot of things were cut short. [1:09:08, 1:09:12]: Okay. But when you say last year, you're talking about twenty one or you talking about twenty. [1:09:13, 1:09:13]: 2020. [1:09:14, 1:09:18]: 2020. Okay. All right. Okay, mayor. [1:09:18, 1:09:23]: Okay, so all I'm asking is just to reduce it from 21 to 15,000. [1:09:23, 1:09:42]: But but we need to understand why that you're deciding to do that. Did you talk to the board members with the youth council? Responsible. We need to be looking at all departments. I know that Councilman Tom, no, Councilman Blount and Councilwoman Ghent are consistently concerned about our spending and budgets. [1:09:42, 1:09:47]: So I asked all of the department heads that have come here and presented to us. [1:09:48, 1:09:49]: I've spoken with them. [1:09:49, 1:09:56]: I've spoken with them, asked them areas in which we have we can cut, and I believe Mr. Wiggins have included. [1:09:56, 1:09:58]: Those cuts in the budget. [1:09:58, 1:10:00]: I didn't think it was necessary. [1:10:01, 1:10:09]: When I brought forth the motion for the city event for recognizing employees and volunteers. [1:10:10, 1:10:15]: I initially threw out the amount of twenty thousand dollars, not to exceed. [1:10:15, 1:10:22]: However, I also said if we need to scale that back to ten, that's fine. Comparing it to the [1:10:22, 1:10:24]: Holiday Gala that the city [1:10:24, 1:10:30]: had in 2018, which we spent in excess of$40,000 for that. [1:10:30, 1:10:31]: These are just [1:10:31, 1:10:33]: ideas that I have. [1:10:33, 1:10:36]: I know that there is protocol that we have to follow here. [1:10:36, 1:10:38]: Which is why I've asked. [1:10:38, 1:10:41]: Mr. Wiggins to give us the factual information. [1:10:42, 1:10:45]: He just shared with you what we've spent with the council initiative. [1:10:45, 1:10:48]: The council you council last year. [1:10:48, 1:10:50]: Ten thousand dollars. [1:10:51, 1:10:53]: So if I need to justify [1:10:53, 1:10:56]: Why I am decreasing their budget? [1:10:56, 1:10:57]: From twenty one thousand [1:10:58, 1:11:01]: to now fifteen thousand, that's just a six thousand dollar difference. [1:11:03, 1:11:05]: This this year they've spent about fifteen. [1:11:06, 1:11:09]: Fifteen thousand, but they got some more expenditures coming. [1:11:10, 1:11:10]: So [1:11:11, 1:11:11]: Yeah. [1:11:12, 1:11:14]: Yeah, I I see you sure. Time by the same thing. [1:11:15, 1:11:18]: So 15,000 is not a big deal. [1:11:19, 1:11:22]: All right, the ma uh Mr Blount, please. [1:11:22, 1:11:30]: Mayor, right now, wh why you can't look at 2020. 2020, we didn't even have City Hall open. [1:11:30, 1:11:38]: The greatest shutdown throughout this country was in 2020. We can't compare 2020 to anything that we're doing right now. [1:11:38, 1:11:46]: Okay. We didn't even ma Mayor, I'm talking. I'm excited, I'm talking. Wait, Mr. We cannot compare twenty twenty to anything. [1:11:46, 1:11:48]: We can look at 2021. [1:11:49, 1:11:53]: When you throw John Blount in there, John Blount was not for having [1:11:54, 1:12:14]: a New Year's party that Councilwoman Barber suggested last council meeting of$20,000. And Councilman uh Mr. Alexander told her that it would have to go next year because if if you amend the budget, it's for the budget for next year. She said, I'll pull back. So you're willing to have a a a a New Year's, you're willing to throw 20 right off the bat. [1:12:14, 1:12:23]: throw twenty thousand dollars toward a new year's concert or new year's event, but you will now you want to take six thousand dollars from the youth. It makes no sense. [1:12:24, 1:12:44]: Leave the youth budget alone and let's keep this thing moving. Just like it doesn't make any sense why you didn't support the police department. All right. Hold up, hold up, folks. Calm down, calm down. We don't need that. Hold up. Come, Mr. Thomas. I rescind my motion. [1:12:44, 1:12:52]: And the attorneys, um, can you clarify is there a uh speaking limit uh doing a a budget here? There is there's a speaking limit. [1:12:53, 1:12:56]: I'd like to like for us to move on. I think everyone has spoken. [1:12:56, 1:13:08]: over the two term limit. Can we move on? Okay. My motion. You rescend your motion? Okay. Fine. Can I have more items, please? You you originally told me three items. This is number six, I believe. [1:13:09, 1:13:10]: What's going on here? [1:13:11, 1:13:11]: Um [1:13:17, 1:13:18]: Oh, okay. [1:13:18, 1:13:20]: I have one more motion in this. [1:13:21, 1:13:23]: I can wait for this one, I'm sorry. [1:13:24, 1:13:29]: This is on the city events calendar, so I can wait till we get to that item on the agenda. [1:13:29, 1:13:30]: Okay. [1:13:30, 1:13:33]: Good deal. Okay, back to you, Mr. Wiggins. [1:13:34, 1:13:40]: You were you you were this was this all came up during your presentation on the budget. We were talking about the general fund budget. [1:13:40, 1:13:45]: Mr. Thomas. Uh Mayor, would you would you please reemphasize? [1:13:45, 1:13:51]: uh the the the speaking rules so we can sort of um move this uh meeting along tonight. [1:13:51, 1:13:52]: All right. [1:13:52, 1:13:56]: Speaking rules is speak twice and no more than three minutes each time at this point. [1:13:57, 1:13:57]: All right. [1:13:58, 1:13:59]: Uh Mr. Wiggins. [1:14:00, 1:14:01]: Back to you, sir. [1:14:03, 1:14:04]: Okay, with the gent okay. [1:14:05, 1:14:07]: The general form changes. [1:14:08, 1:14:08]: Um [1:14:09, 1:14:12]: Reading from changes from third [1:14:13, 1:14:14]: How long you get? [1:14:14, 1:14:15]: On the third budget. [1:14:16, 1:14:17]: Reading on December thirteenth. [1:14:17, 1:14:18]: Twenty twenty one. [1:14:19, 1:14:21]: Adjunct fund total change. [1:14:22, 1:14:25]: From eighteen point two million to eighteen point three. [1:14:26, 1:14:26]: Right. [1:14:26, 1:14:29]: That was a nine ninety nine thousand six hundred and eighty one. [1:14:31, 1:14:33]: dollar ninety three increase. [1:14:34, 1:14:35]: Yeah. [1:14:35, 1:14:36]: We [1:14:36, 1:14:38]: What I have below. [1:14:38, 1:14:42]: Or some of the changes. We had business services, they decreased their budget by a thousand. [1:14:43, 1:14:46]: Yeah, government building property dec they decrease theirs by [1:14:47, 1:14:48]: Um [1:14:48, 1:14:49]: A hundred. [1:14:49, 1:14:51]: Eleven thousand five hundred. [1:14:51, 1:14:52]: I T [1:14:52, 1:14:54]: was increased by twelve thousand. [1:14:55, 1:14:59]: Municipal court dec decreased by seventy one thousand five sixty one. [1:15:01, 1:15:03]: Police increased about three hundred thousand. [1:15:04, 1:15:07]: Public works decreased their budget by seventy three thousand six. [1:15:08, 1:15:09]: Hundred and fifty six dollars. [1:15:11, 1:15:12]: See the events increase about [1:15:12, 1:15:14]: by fifty thousand. [1:15:15, 1:15:18]: permitting development decrease about [1:15:18, 1:15:21]: By four thousand six hundred plan and zoning. [1:15:21, 1:15:24]: Decreased by six thousand Main Street. [1:15:24, 1:15:25]: decreased by six thousand. [1:15:26, 1:15:27]: Which needed that to [1:15:29, 1:15:30]: Nine nine thousand six eighty one. [1:15:32, 1:15:32]: So now you have [1:15:33, 1:15:34]: Oh of course it. [1:15:35, 1:15:35]: Okay. [1:15:36, 1:15:37]: What's your question? So go ahead. [1:15:37, 1:15:44]: What constitutes the hundred and eleven thousand decrease in government buildings and property decrease? What what what is that? [1:15:44, 1:15:45]: What is that? [1:15:46, 1:15:47]: Okay. [1:15:47, 1:15:48]: Initially [1:15:49, 1:15:51]: This is coming from um [1:15:52, 1:15:53]: The from the the last meeting? [1:15:55, 1:15:55]: Yeah. [1:15:56, 1:16:01]: You have your maintenance agreement agreement which we changed from one hundred and twenty five thousand to fifty thousand. [1:16:02, 1:16:03]: Um [1:16:04, 1:16:06]: The fountain ma maintenance. [1:16:07, 1:16:13]: was uh it's fifteen thousand it was it was is it was reduced from thirty thousand. [1:16:14, 1:16:18]: You had uh now it's ten thousand dollars in your supply materials. [1:16:19, 1:16:20]: That's coming from [1:16:21, 1:16:22]: That was fifteen thousand before. [1:16:24, 1:16:26]: Uh your hand tools and small equipment. [1:16:27, 1:16:30]: It was ten thousand, but now it's two thousand five hundred. [1:16:31, 1:16:34]: Science was reduced from two thousand five hundred to a thousand. [1:16:35, 1:16:40]: Uniforms was reduced from two thousand to one thousand five hundred. [1:16:41, 1:16:42]: Um [1:16:42, 1:16:43]: New building. [1:16:44, 1:16:45]: Um [1:16:45, 1:16:46]: Maintenance. [1:16:46, 1:16:49]: was reduced from ten thousand to five thousand. [1:16:50, 1:16:53]: And computer software was reduced from seven thousand, five thousand. [1:16:53, 1:17:00]: Okay, so who made these changes? The department head made the change or who made these changes? Department head as well as some of the council uh [1:17:01, 1:17:01]: Um [1:17:02, 1:17:03]: S on a couple of them. [1:17:04, 1:17:05]: But mainly um [1:17:05, 1:17:06]: Department. [1:17:07, 1:17:18]: What happened, Mayor what happened, Mayor Pro Tem is that several several council members met with department heads and we went through that individual budget for each of those uh department heads that we were able to meet with. And that's where the changes came from. [1:17:19, 1:17:23]: Okay. All right. Just wanna make sure we're not taking anything out there with [1:17:23, 1:17:28]: negatively impact uh where we're trying to go in terms of the quality that we're trying to get. So [1:17:29, 1:17:31]: The biggest item under that was was what? [1:17:31, 1:17:32]: Again. [1:17:32, 1:17:34]: Uh it was the um [1:17:37, 1:17:38]: The maintenance agreement. [1:17:38, 1:17:40]: Which was at one a hundred and twenty five thousand. [1:17:41, 1:17:42]: Which was reduced to fifty thousand. [1:17:43, 1:17:49]: Okay, what what is the maintenance agreement? What's that? I'm sorry. What explain that what the what the detail [1:17:49, 1:17:50]: I might need [1:17:51, 1:17:54]: I can explain that the main. [1:17:55, 1:17:58]: The maintenance agreement involves the camera and access control. [1:17:59, 1:18:05]: And our goal was last year we would have all of those upgraded and all of the city buildings, but we're not. [1:18:06, 1:18:15]: Because uh Chief Traymar and I are still looking at some additional things. So instead of that being up and running by the first of January, it'll probably be the middle of the year. [1:18:16, 1:18:19]: So that way you save on the maintenance agreement cost. [1:18:20, 1:18:22]: So that where that reduction came from. [1:18:23, 1:18:24]: Okay, thank you. [1:18:27, 1:18:30]: I Mr. Wiggins continue on, unless you unless you're done. [1:18:30, 1:18:33]: I I'm done. With this is j this is just for the general funnel. [1:18:34, 1:18:36]: If anybody ain't got any more questions about the jump on. [1:18:38, 1:18:40]: Okay. [1:18:40, 1:18:41]: Yes, sir. [1:18:41, 1:18:43]: Uh Ms. Tom Squay, please. [1:18:43, 1:18:44]: I have a motion. [1:18:46, 1:18:47]: What's that sir? Go ahead. [1:18:47, 1:18:51]: If if if Mr. Wills if Mr. Wiggins is finished with his presentation. [1:18:52, 1:18:53]: Oh yeah. [1:18:54, 1:18:58]: Uh Mayor Councilor, um I move to amend the assistant [1:18:59, 1:19:03]: Public works, directed job description, minimum qualification. [1:19:04, 1:19:05]: And it reads as follows. [1:19:06, 1:19:09]: A bachelor's degree in civil engineering. [1:19:10, 1:19:12]: A related field of engineering. [1:19:13, 1:19:15]: Environmental science or technology. [1:19:16, 1:19:19]: Requiring seven years of experience in public works. [1:19:19, 1:19:21]: Including water. [1:19:22, 1:19:22]: Sure. [1:19:23, 1:19:24]: Stone water. [1:19:25, 1:19:27]: Solid waste management. [1:19:27, 1:19:29]: Streets and roads. [1:19:30, 1:19:30]: Parks. [1:19:32, 1:19:34]: and facility and fleet maintenance. [1:19:35, 1:19:38]: with an equivalent combination of education and training. [1:19:39, 1:19:40]: And experience. [1:19:41, 1:19:50]: which provides the required knowledge, skills, and ability for this job will be considered with the required engineering degree. [1:19:50, 1:19:53]: and a valid state of Georgia uh driver's license. [1:19:55, 1:20:00]: All right. So that's uh additional that's part of the job description that you're you're requesting in. [1:20:00, 1:20:03]: Yeah, I well the motion is to amend [1:20:04, 1:20:08]: uh the qualification, not job description, but the uh qualification. [1:20:09, 1:20:09]: Okay. [1:20:10, 1:20:16]: All right. Is there a second? Okay. May I put ten second that any further discussion? [1:20:16, 1:20:25]: I just wanna one other thing. Now, uh, in terms of uh what we're doing here, this person is coming in as assistant, is this operations person? [1:20:25, 1:20:29]: with the engineering background and all of that, is there something that uh [1:20:30, 1:20:32]: Uh is in there specifically about [1:20:32, 1:20:38]: uh some type uh operations. I guess this person uh will be coming in in terms of [1:20:38, 1:20:42]: Uh operations. Uh is that anything in there referring to that? [1:20:43, 1:20:46]: Well the the the basic issue is [1:20:46, 1:20:55]: Um, you know, every time the city needs an engineer, we we have to go outside. Right. Right and and this person coming in. [1:20:55, 1:20:57]: Uh we'll held that and and [1:20:58, 1:20:58]: Um [1:20:59, 1:21:05]: The years of experience has has increased from three uh to seven. [1:21:05, 1:21:09]: And and and again, my my point and my position is [1:21:09, 1:21:11]: Uh how do we [1:21:11, 1:21:14]: Do things more efficient and effective. [1:21:15, 1:21:17]: How do we improve? [1:21:17, 1:21:19]: Uh on everything that we do. [1:21:20, 1:21:20]: Um [1:21:21, 1:21:41]: Now, even though we're in the budget cycle now, but I plan to continue to look in all departments to see where we need some improvements. And so I just sort of see this now, you know, public works, community development, those are the two large. [1:21:40, 1:21:49]: Largest departments and with the police department coming on. So if you just look at those three departments, uh, it is very crucial. [1:21:49, 1:22:01]: uh that we saw to just you know to do the best we can. So uh again, I will be coming forward with other uh recommendation, other amendments, but I just see this is one right now. [1:22:02, 1:22:05]: Um that I think is just just needed uh to go forward, but [1:22:06, 1:22:07]: Uh for me [1:22:08, 1:22:12]: How do we improve on our service delivery? [1:22:13, 1:22:20]: Uh I'm not living on past law of what we did last year and the year before, and the year before it's not acceptable now. [1:22:21, 1:22:26]: Um as the the city grows, uh the demand from citizen grows. [1:22:26, 1:22:31]: And so uh we have to be accountable ourselves at elected officials. [1:22:31, 1:22:33]: And uh it has to trigger down. [1:22:33, 1:22:53]: uh the citizens require that of us and we have to require that of of staff and then that and then and directors have to uh allow that accountability even with uh the personnel that's on them. So it's a trick-a-down effect, but we have to be more efficient, more effective, and we have to improve our service delivery to our citizens. [1:22:53, 1:23:00]: Well, this is exactly what I was looking for so that people can understand that every time something goes wrong, [1:23:00, 1:23:11]: we don't have an engineer on staff. And these qualifications are extremely important because now we have uh we'll have enough engineer uh on staff. So that's why I second this motion. [1:23:12, 1:23:14]: Uh Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [1:23:20, 1:23:21]: Ms. Barber. [1:23:28, 1:23:31]: Yes. Okay. Uh Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [1:23:32, 1:23:37]: Mayor, uh I'm not in disapproval of any biz positions that we [1:23:37, 1:23:38]: Bring in that will help. [1:23:39, 1:23:41]: To facilitate the needs of the city. [1:23:41, 1:23:45]: But once again I would say that we are bringing on a city manager. [1:23:46, 1:23:55]: And if this I would ask that we will let the city manager go through each department and with the recommendations from the city council, let us know how much that need can facilitate. [1:23:55, 1:23:57]: Or what can be done and what can be moved. [1:23:58, 1:24:02]: Uh I'm I think we're in a golden opportunity right now with the city that that [1:24:03, 1:24:07]: Collaborately with the city council and what we're able to approve and what we can can approve. [1:24:07, 1:24:11]: that we can work with the uh city manager in order to go through each department. [1:24:12, 1:24:15]: to determine and facilitate each department's needs. [1:24:15, 1:24:21]: Um and so I I I I think that this this would be the the way to go and um [1:24:22, 1:24:31]: Mr. Aaron, because I I don't know where did this come where is the job description? Is it enlightenment to any other city or how did we come about these uh job descriptions? [1:24:32, 1:24:40]: Well, my only concern to this is engineers are like doctors, engineers specialize. Not every engineer can [1:24:41, 1:25:01]: work in every discipline. Some specialize in utilities, some specialize in civil engineering. And I don't want people to be under the impression because you hire an engineer, you'll no longer need an outside engineer because that engineer might not specialize in design water and sewer improvements or stormwater improvements. He might not specialize like [1:25:01, 1:25:21]: Be doing this East Atlanta uh Lee Street improvement. He might not be able to design that an engineer is not going to be knowledgeable in all disciplines. I think one of the things if you're looking for somebody is that somebody have knowledge of public works operations and project management. Just because [1:25:21, 1:25:22]: they have an engineer. [1:25:22, 1:25:42]: on their title does not mean that they're gonna save the city a lot of money in engineering fees because if that's not a part of their discipline, you're still gonna have to find an engineer to be able to design and and draw those plans. So I just would like if it's a position that is someone that's knowledgeable of public works. [1:25:42, 1:26:02]: That they worked in the field, they can operate equipment, they can read plans, they can meet with engineers and designers and contractors and talk their language and make sure that the city gets the project that it's spending its money for. There are people out there that they might not have a degree, but they're good project managers. [1:26:02, 1:26:08]: They've managed million dollar projects and they could bring those projects to fruition. [1:26:08, 1:26:11]: Because they have that experience. They've been out there. [1:26:11, 1:26:25]: And they they've earned their stripes doing this type of work. And I just don't want to see us box ourselves in that it's gotta be an engineer. When if you get an engineer, he might have an engineering degree, but he might not be able to work in all the disciplines that we need. [1:26:26, 1:26:32]: Thank you. Just a follow-up with Mr. Aaron. This is why I would hope that we would allow the city manager. [1:26:33, 1:26:39]: what what this what what the council needs that the city manager would take those needs to you mr aaron [1:26:40, 1:27:00]: And he would facilitate those departments with the job description along with HR that's needed for those positions. And then we get the price range for those positions. And then we fill those positions. I would hope that this council would go that route. And that way, our needs are being fulfilled as a council. The needs of that department is being fulfilled, and we'll put [1:26:59, 1:27:06]: putting that position, uh the the the uh initiator of that position in the hands of the city manager. [1:27:07, 1:27:09]: Ms. Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [1:27:12, 1:27:16]: Thank you, Mayor Ford. I wanted to ask Mr. Wiggins if he could go back to his last slide. [1:27:17, 1:27:18]: Um, the one that shows [1:27:19, 1:27:22]: A recap of everything that has happened. [1:27:22, 1:27:24]: from the previous reading. [1:27:25, 1:27:27]: Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. [1:27:27, 1:27:33]: Okay, then um that's one bar that there's a motion and a second on the table, Mayor. [1:27:34, 1:27:35]: That's true it is. [1:27:36, 1:27:46]: That's true it is. Discussion should be surrounding that motion that has been made versus going back to the. [1:27:51, 1:27:52]: You good? [1:27:52, 1:27:57]: point out. Mayor Ford, let me just ask Ms. Bob, is that related to the the motion? [1:28:00, 1:28:01]: No, I'm sorry. [1:28:02, 1:28:19]: Okay, Mayor Ford, you have a motion and a second on the table. Okay. Ms. Wiggins, you can get rid of the slide at this point, please. Oh, Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. You have a motion and a second on the table. I want to know make sure that if there's no other discussion on this particular motion. [1:28:20, 1:28:22]: All right. All right. All in favor, motion, please indicate. [1:28:24, 1:28:25]: Opposed. [1:28:26, 1:28:33]: Abstain. Ma pose deposed, I think the city manager have embarrassment with the with the department head on that position. [1:28:33, 1:28:36]: All right, the motion passed three uh three to one. All right. [1:28:39, 1:28:50]: I I I yield back to you and uh Councilwoman uh Barber Mayor Ford. All right. Uh Mr. Wigan, uh anything else on your presentation that you need to mention to the to the council. [1:28:51, 1:28:53]: Um the only thing I need to mention is um [1:28:55, 1:28:55]: Um [1:28:56, 1:28:58]: If we if we're not voting for the budget. [1:28:58, 1:28:59]: Tonight [1:28:59, 1:29:02]: Then need to go back and then try to insert [1:29:03, 1:29:05]: And let staff work on um [1:29:05, 1:29:07]: Recognition done at the recognition [1:29:07, 1:29:09]: event as well as um [1:29:10, 1:29:11]: The grants administration. [1:29:12, 1:29:13]: We need to put that in. [1:29:14, 1:29:16]: And then that's gonna change the amount again. [1:29:16, 1:29:19]: And all of this will be going to the general fund, so we'll just be [1:29:19, 1:29:21]: uh updating the germ fund. [1:29:22, 1:29:25]: So otherwise with this otherwise you would should find her [1:29:27, 1:29:38]: If I understand correctly, then with these adjustments made, then you have to make some uh with these adjustments made that have been approved, you gotta go back and read and put this all online to make sure we got a balanced budget. [1:29:38, 1:29:42]: And if I understand correctly, that means that uh [1:29:42, 1:29:50]: We could not uh uh approve this particular budget this night. We would have to continue this. I'm asking hold on, I'm asking the question to the treasurer. Relax, please. [1:29:51, 1:29:55]: So I I'm just asking you, Mr. Wiggins. So so is that where you're going with this or not? [1:29:55, 1:29:59]: Well well yeah, exactly where that's where I was going. I mean, I was also [1:30:00, 1:30:01]: Want to mention too. [1:30:01, 1:30:03]: You know, with these changes, if you're approving these changes. [1:30:04, 1:30:04]: The [1:30:05, 1:30:06]: А [1:30:06, 1:30:07]: If you approve the budget [1:30:08, 1:30:09]: Tonight. [1:30:09, 1:30:10]: The [1:30:10, 1:30:13]: knowing that these changes will be will change the uh [1:30:14, 1:30:15]: It tore them out. [1:30:16, 1:30:16]: You know [1:30:17, 1:30:18]: That's not a problem. [1:30:18, 1:30:19]: We can go forward. [1:30:19, 1:30:20]: Bud beer. [1:30:21, 1:30:32]: All right, just need clarification. All right. On that note, this is a public hearing. So uh if unless there's any other comments from the from the council right now, we need to open this up for a public hearing. [1:30:32, 1:30:35]: Yeah, I I have one comment if I'm right here, sir. [1:30:35, 1:30:41]: That Mr. Wiggins, we're on here. Make these adjustments as this meeting goes along. It's time to approve the budget. [1:30:42, 1:30:44]: It's time to approve the budget. Make the adjustments. [1:30:45, 1:30:48]: As we move along in this meeting so we can vote on the budget tonight. [1:30:50, 1:30:50]: All right. [1:30:50, 1:30:53]: So it's what were you saying, um [1:30:54, 1:30:57]: Suspend it and then just bring it back to the mayor. [1:30:57, 1:30:58]: Tonight and then you [1:30:59, 1:31:02]: Y'all gonna y'all gonna go ahead and approve it tonight? [1:31:02, 1:31:04]: Well you can't approve it right now. [1:31:04, 1:31:07]: Well, what first of all, let me before we go that well. [1:31:07, 1:31:11]: He's indicating that we need to prove everything tonight, but we'll find out from the rest of the council just a second. [1:31:11, 1:31:31]: What I want to do now is a public hearing. I want to open up the public hearing. Don't know if we have anybody out there that wants to make any comments and I'm gonna need to ask the question. It's a process we need to go through. So on that note, I'm opening up the public hearing uh for anybody that is for the budget as it is stands right now, or any comments for the budget. And I note I need to ask uh the [1:31:31, 1:31:32]: They [1:31:32, 1:31:36]: The clerk, whether not is anybody out there that she that uh wants to make a [1:31:36, 1:31:45]: Any type of comment for and same thing with the PIO if see anything on Facebook Live or Facebook that needs to make any comments and need to have access to do this. [1:31:45, 1:31:51]: Mayor, this is the clerk. There are two comments, but they are both anonymous and will not be read into the record. [1:31:51, 1:31:53]: All right. Uh how about to um PL? [1:31:54, 1:32:06]: Good evening, Airford. For Facebook, we do have several comments. Nothing directly saying for or against, but there was some talk about youth council budget, people expressing um they were not for it being cut. [1:32:08, 1:32:10]: Okay. Um [1:32:10, 1:32:30]: Hmm. Okay. Well that was what I was asking was for, but now let's ask of get for I'll close that piece. No, no problem. Close that piece. And so is anybody that's for against the the budget uh from either Facebook and or from what Ms. Holliday can find that's against the actual budget itself. And uh if there are no one on phase four. [1:32:30, 1:32:33]: Yeah, no one on Facebook is saying for or no. [1:32:33, 1:32:52]: Okay. All right. All right. Good deal. On that note, I'm going to close the the public hearing on the budget. Now, as the budget has been read and with the amendments and changes of the budget uh that were approved this evening, is there a motion to approve the budget as with those adjustments that were made this evening? [1:32:53, 1:32:54]: Como [1:32:54, 1:32:56]: So move. Is there a second? [1:32:56, 1:32:57]: A circuit. [1:32:58, 1:32:59]: All right. [1:32:59, 1:33:01]: Any further discussion? [1:33:01, 1:33:09]: Mayor I just have one question if you don't mind. Yes, sir. And I I guess the city attorney can get a um can answer this. [1:33:10, 1:33:11]: How are we having a uh [1:33:11, 1:33:12]: Their budget. [1:33:13, 1:33:13]: Oh. [1:33:14, 1:33:21]: We'll open it to the public for comments on a budget that has not been solidified nor w with with the amendments and they're gonna be changes. [1:33:22, 1:33:24]: How are we how are we counting this as a um [1:33:25, 1:33:25]: But [1:33:26, 1:33:33]: Uh as a budget hearing when when when there there are uh several amendments to the budget, this is not the final budget. [1:33:36, 1:33:39]: Once it comes back, we'll see whether or not the mayor will take additional comments on it. [1:33:42, 1:33:47]: I mean and and then councilman it I would also think if that's the case then we would have [1:33:47, 1:33:52]: an inordinate number of budget meetings because then you would have to have three meetings after all amendments. [1:33:53, 1:33:57]: So it could end up lasting like six different meetings to have a the budget passed. [1:33:59, 1:34:03]: Well well well I guess um asked the question is is how can we have an official [1:34:04, 1:34:09]: budget hearing with the citizens on an amount that has yet to be amended. [1:34:09, 1:34:10]: That's [1:34:12, 1:34:13]: I would say [1:34:14, 1:34:19]: I will say Councilman Blount, this isn't official. It's uh it's been publicized as a as a public hearing. [1:34:20, 1:34:32]: and and and individuals can make comments that's why I asked for and against as part of the process. All due respect mayor, I appreciate that. Um it my question is directed to Mr. Berry as far as legal is on this. Okay. [1:34:34, 1:34:38]: Right. I mean I I think that the treasurer is able to calculate those amounts. [1:34:40, 1:34:42]: Otherwise then we would have a uh [1:34:43, 1:34:44]: Yeah, like I said, we would [1:34:45, 1:34:48]: have to have meetings, then no more further amendments and continue. [1:34:49, 1:34:50]: Um [1:34:51, 1:34:55]: You know, c continue, I guess, with no discussion or or any input. [1:34:55, 1:35:00]: And freeze it in time as long as the treasurer can finalize those amounts, I think that's okay. [1:35:00, 1:35:02]: I can state the amount now. [1:35:05, 1:35:09]: Oh you can, Mr. Wade? Yes, because'cause there's only been two two amounts that's [1:35:10, 1:35:12]: That's been stated. Sixty five thousand. [1:35:13, 1:35:15]: And the twenty thousand then I added [1:35:15, 1:35:17]: Twenty three percent on to the sixty three. [1:35:17, 1:35:19]: I mean to the sixty five. [1:35:19, 1:35:20]: Okay. [1:35:21, 1:35:21]: Right now. [1:35:21, 1:35:23]: With those changes. [1:35:25, 1:35:27]: General fund would be at eighteen. [1:35:27, 1:35:30]: Million four hundred eighty thousand. [1:35:30, 1:35:33]: Nine hundred and ninety three dollars and twelve cents. [1:35:35, 1:35:36]: Okay. [1:35:37, 1:35:44]: And if I can just add real quick, any other position that's added could be added through a budget amendment once salary and and [1:35:44, 1:35:47]: You know, is known once the city manager comes on board. [1:35:48, 1:35:48]: That's correct. [1:35:50, 1:35:52]: I'm sorry. [1:35:52, 1:35:58]: I just wanted to um restate the number eighteen four eight zero nine nine three point one two. [1:35:58, 1:35:59]: That's correct. [1:35:59, 1:36:00]: Thank you. [1:36:01, 1:36:15]: Mr. Thomas, you had your hand raised. Well, I I I I just wanted to say that this budget hearing and and other public hearings, it's no different than a zoning hearing where you have conditions. [1:36:15, 1:36:19]: So I I just want to start to just make that statement. Yeah, it it's a public hearing. [1:36:20, 1:36:21]: Thank you. [1:36:22, 1:36:37]: All right. Uh the motion's been made in the second to with the appropriate changes that have been approved tonight that the budget the 2022 budget be approved. That's the motion on the floor. So all in favor of motion, please indicate. One last question mayor before I vote, if you don't mind. [1:36:37, 1:36:39]: Okay. So go ahead. [1:36:40, 1:36:42]: Mr. Wiggins, with the identified [1:36:42, 1:36:42]: Um [1:36:43, 1:36:47]: Sources for the general budget with identified sources. [1:36:48, 1:36:50]: Would this be considered a balanced budget? [1:36:52, 1:36:54]: Yes, because what [1:36:55, 1:36:58]: What we will have to do is just um uh increase our revenue. [1:37:00, 1:37:02]: on the um on the reserves that [1:37:04, 1:37:10]: No, what I'm what I'm I guess you missed the question. With this 18 million off a budget that what what was our budget last year? [1:37:12, 1:37:16]: From the on the general fund was twelve point eight. [1:37:17, 1:37:23]: Yeah. You look you're looking at twelve point eight, so you look you're looking you're looking at almost six million dollars more. [1:37:23, 1:37:25]: What I'm asking you is [1:37:25, 1:37:31]: Is that with with the addition to this budget, which is almost six dollars more, six thousand six million more. [1:37:32, 1:37:38]: with the identified funds for this budget is this would this be considered a balanced budget? [1:37:39, 1:37:40]: Yeah. [1:37:40, 1:37:42]: It it would be considered a balanced budget. [1:37:42, 1:37:43]: Yes. [1:37:43, 1:37:44]: Okay. [1:37:44, 1:37:45]: Because sh yes. [1:37:46, 1:37:51]: 'Cause the expenditures is gonna match the revenue. Revenue is gonna match the expenditures. Yes. [1:37:51, 1:37:52]: Yeah. Okay. [1:37:52, 1:37:56]: Motion's been made in second. All in favor of motion, please indicate. [1:37:57, 1:38:06]: Okay, it's actually a unanimous decision. Fantastic. Okay. Congratulations. We now have a 2022 budget. Look forward to execution of this budget. [1:38:06, 1:38:08]: We're gonna move on to um [1:38:09, 1:38:14]: Murray Manor's Conference Center Building Renovations presented by Ms. Kim Jordan. [1:38:14, 1:38:15]: Please. [1:38:15, 1:38:15]: Ms. Jordan. [1:38:16, 1:38:21]: Yes, thank you. Um Ikani Will Ingram is going to assist with this as well. [1:38:21, 1:38:23]: Okay, Mr. Ingram, good deal. [1:38:26, 1:38:28]: So we have um [1:38:30, 1:38:33]: I think a presentation to put on the screen. Is that right, Carnel? [1:38:36, 1:38:39]: Yes, I'm gonna be pulling that up very shortly. Thank you. Okay. [1:38:40, 1:38:42]: Okay, so with the um [1:38:42, 1:38:44]: Building renovations. [1:38:44, 1:38:49]: The the building was built in two thousand and two, which makes it nearly twenty years old. [1:38:50, 1:38:54]: And it's in need of repairs, a facelift and a refresh to be competitive in the market. [1:38:55, 1:38:57]: Um, not to mention the roof has been leaking. [1:38:57, 1:38:59]: And the ballroom. [1:38:59, 1:39:00]: Um needs [1:39:01, 1:39:02]: Some work done, especially the carpet. [1:39:05, 1:39:07]: А не се кампан би реп'я. [1:39:09, 1:39:10]: So [1:39:15, 1:39:18]: We did a walkthrough recently. [1:39:18, 1:39:20]: To assess what [1:39:20, 1:39:21]: The uh [1:39:23, 1:39:24]: the the ballroom needed. [1:39:26, 1:39:29]: And uh in that walkthrough. [1:39:30, 1:39:31]: Uh we have uh [1:39:32, 1:39:33]: We've we've looked at [1:39:34, 1:39:37]: different the different things that we'll have to do with the roof. [1:39:37, 1:39:40]: Uh we talked with Gordon uh roofing. [1:39:40, 1:39:45]: That price is like ninety four thousand two hundred and fourteen dollars. [1:39:46, 1:39:47]: uh the kitchen [1:39:48, 1:39:52]: And ballroom was about a hundred and seventy thousand in the lower ballroom. [1:39:53, 1:39:54]: Was uh [1:39:55, 1:40:01]: uh uh 70 000. now we have to make some considerations how do we best execute it [1:40:02, 1:40:04]: uh in in a timely manner. [1:40:04, 1:40:06]: That is that is what [1:40:07, 1:40:09]: We are bringing forth to you now. [1:40:09, 1:40:20]: um that we as a team have to go in and do these things and and and and we would want to see if this is the way that the council would want to move. [1:40:20, 1:40:23]: To renovate the moral. [1:40:23, 1:40:27]: Mo Mandor Conference and to bring it back and uh [1:40:27, 1:40:34]: uh for for being able to rent for the different events and and things that we would be having there. [1:40:37, 1:40:47]: And that includes the l lower level, not just the ballroom, but the lower level, which has these uh meeting rooms one through three, which hold about tw uh sixty people when it's open. Um [1:40:47, 1:40:57]: and combined. The training room holds about 40, medium room four holds about 30 people. And it's a total of 5,000 square feet downstairs as well. And it has a separate entrance, obviously. [1:40:58, 1:40:59]: We would um [1:40:59, 1:41:08]: We would like to see the center get the roof fixed first, uh, followed by renovations upstairs and and downstairs. And we see the lower level. [1:41:09, 1:41:09]: Um [1:41:10, 1:41:12]: At a lower [1:41:12, 1:41:15]: rental price point in line with the Ted Strickland. [1:41:15, 1:41:16]: Which we can [1:41:17, 1:41:18]: Make it, you know, around [1:41:18, 1:41:24]: the four hundred, four fifty dollar mark to rent the spaces, which would be comparable to what the tenth strength was. [1:41:27, 1:41:47]: Uh additional uh things that we would consider is a sound system taking out some of the uh countertops in there, putting uh ice machines, so it is an independent event center. Uh the downstairs of the Merrander becomes an independent event center. [1:41:47, 1:41:49]: Uh, much as the Ted Strickland. [1:41:49, 1:41:53]: Uh, since we don't have that facility online anymore. [1:41:57, 1:41:58]: Uh [1:41:58, 1:42:01]: We looked at the bathrooms. Um [1:42:01, 1:42:10]: uh as well. And it's minimal, you know, color schemes and things like that, but it's minimal renovation that would go there. [1:42:10, 1:42:13]: The total cost that we would be looking at. [1:42:14, 1:42:14]: Four. [1:42:14, 1:42:16]: The moral mandor. [1:42:16, 1:42:18]: is uh three thousand [1:42:18, 1:42:19]: Um [1:42:20, 1:42:20]: It's uh [1:42:21, 1:42:30]: Oh, we would look at uh we would look at uh renting it out. It would be about the total renovations three hundred and fourteen thousand dollars. [1:42:30, 1:42:31]: Would be our cost. [1:42:31, 1:42:32]: To do that. [1:42:35, 1:42:40]: Yeah, we already have three thousand thirty-four thousand two hundred and fourteen. Is that [1:42:40, 1:42:41]: Estimated cost. [1:42:41, 1:42:46]: And that includes the roof repair and upstairs that includes all repairs. [1:42:47, 1:42:50]: And we do already have one hundred thousand dollars budgeted. [1:42:50, 1:42:56]: uh that was approved previously and or proposed and it's m uh moving forward with that. [1:42:58, 1:42:59]: Okay. [1:43:00, 1:43:06]: Are there any more slides that you need to show? Because right now that would be all of the slides I'm gonna [1:43:06, 1:43:07]: Undo that. [1:43:14, 1:43:20]: And we are reviewing and working through the contract with the attorneys to um you know modify this once we have [1:43:20, 1:43:23]: Um all the renovations completed. [1:43:23, 1:43:24]: And then we'll [1:43:24, 1:43:26]: Uh we want to show case. [1:43:26, 1:43:28]: [6209.3, 6211.8]: And bring the public in and get them excited about booking. [1:43:32, 1:43:35]: Um I'm yeah, we're already we get calls every day to book [1:43:35, 1:43:37]: uh the rooms, a ballroom. [1:43:37, 1:43:42]: Whatever. In fact, I had someone call me uh wanting to book a wedding for twenty twenty three. [1:43:43, 1:43:45]: So as soon as we get um [1:43:45, 1:43:53]: It up and running again and a showcase and something that can really uh make a mark in the community. We'll have a grand reopening and bring all these. [1:43:54, 1:43:55]: Perspective clients and [1:43:56, 1:44:10]: And we've also talked to tourism. We've talked to tourism in Henry County and there are dollars there. We're discussing that with Mr. Wiggins and we'll have some additional numbers that we can share with you. [1:44:10, 1:44:13]: a as well as a marketing plan. [1:44:13, 1:44:15]: to uh for reopening. [1:44:17, 1:44:19]: All right, uh thank you. Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. [1:44:19, 1:44:21]: Thank you, Mayor. Um [1:44:21, 1:44:37]: Uh Mrs. Jordan and Mr. Ingram, um, you know, I've I've had extensive conversation with both of you and Mrs. Jordan, um, since you've been on board and I'm I'm not sure if you had uh an official uh welcoming, um, but welcome to the city of Stockbridge. [1:44:37, 1:44:38]: Thank you so much. [1:44:39, 1:44:59]: You know, you and I have have spoken um a couple of times and and I sort of mentioned to you about a little about the history and with the TED, you know, sharing with you um how we repurposed the TED and that that there was a need for a facility that uh citizens uh economically [1:44:59, 1:45:02]: uh could could actually use. So I'm glad to hear. [1:45:02, 1:45:08]: Uh on the rental uh fee that you're proposing for the downstairs at at the mural. [1:45:09, 1:45:19]: uh I I think is is is really doable. I know we said when we repurposed the the TED that the green room would be that facility, but I am in agreement with [1:45:19, 1:45:22]: Some of the conversations uh, you know, about the green room. [1:45:22, 1:45:27]: So I'm I'm excited and glad to know that you are put your heads together. [1:45:27, 1:45:30]: And you have made the downstairs affordable. [1:45:30, 1:45:31]: Um [1:45:31, 1:45:35]: We all know that um that the mural needs the renovation. [1:45:36, 1:45:38]: Um I made a note of the amount. [1:45:39, 1:45:42]: I'm not gonna get into that because I I think you all are sort of vetting that. [1:45:43, 1:46:03]: But I'm in agreement with that, uh, the fact that it does need the renovation. And again, you know, uh I I speak toward the future. Uh I learn from the past, but we have to grow toward the future. So I know we have to sort of be about these things and making the murmur, even though we have the cultural art. [1:46:03, 1:46:05]: facility coming on in a year two. [1:46:05, 1:46:07]: But we still have to make the mural. [1:46:07, 1:46:09]: A viable uh entity. [1:46:10, 1:46:30]: So we have to do what we have to do, you know, to do that. So I just want to thank you and Mr. Ingram for your due diligence in that is way overdue. I wish we could have gotten some of this done in 2021 during the pandemic, but I know, you know, Mrs. Jordan, you just [1:46:30, 1:46:41]: just got here and I know we um we lost a dear friend and our past um uh manager there. So um, you know, it's never too late to go false. I just wanna say, um [1:46:41, 1:46:44]: Let let's go forward in some manner. Thank you, Eric. [1:46:45, 1:46:46]: Thank you. [1:46:47, 1:46:48]: Any other questions from the council? [1:46:49, 1:46:51]: A reference to the presentation. [1:46:54, 1:47:07]: All right, so is there a motion to accept this proposal of uh going forward with this um particular renovation and roughly start with$100,000 for the roof, but also I guess the total amount is estimated at$334,000. [1:47:10, 1:47:11]: Clear motion. [1:47:11, 1:47:12]: At all. [1:47:12, 1:47:16]: I gotta I'd just like to ask a couple more questions. Okay, what's your question, sir? [1:47:17, 1:47:25]: Again, the Merr Manders is a functional facility. We've been moving forward. The priority was the roof in order to get it going. [1:47:25, 1:47:28]: We got the roof in there. The downtown is a good option for. [1:47:29, 1:47:29]: Um [1:47:30, 1:47:33]: Do we have a itemized list that we could have? [1:47:34, 1:47:38]: looked at for these particular repairs, or do we just kind of got a broad base? [1:47:39, 1:47:52]: Um for that. No, no, there is a list in your package of the specific things in the Merle that we would do. There's the chandeliers, the sconches, the floors, the paint. [1:47:52, 1:47:56]: Uh the sound proofing, all those items are in the [1:47:57, 1:47:58]: In the in [1:47:59, 1:48:19]: Right, I saw the items. Maybe I just scanned over. I did was there a dollar amount assigned to those items or was it just listed? The ballpark for upstairs in the ballroom is one hundred and seventy thousand. Right, right. Is is that that's my assertion. There was a ballpark figure of a hundred and seventy thousand, but yes, what I'm saying is that [1:48:19, 1:48:38]: Have broken down in between the what that what is represented in the$170,000 uh itemized. That would be these items upstairs. It would be the sconched chandeliers and turn those into LED. When the when the um uh mural was first designed. [1:48:38, 1:48:39]: Uh [1:48:39, 1:48:47]: in the in 2000 uh the atmosphere was for cozy so the lighting was [1:48:48, 1:48:55]: uh dimmable but it wasn't bright. Now in the in the 2020s, um [1:48:55, 1:49:08]: People want to take selfies. So you need LED, lots of lighting. Uh so that would be included. The the colors on the walls, uh borders, nine slip floor versus carpet. The carpet. [1:49:08, 1:49:28]: Attracts bacteria. That's a high humidity room, uh, and we haven't seemed to be able to control the high humidity. So when it rains and the air conditioning is on, uh it creates mold. We've had we've had three or four incidents of that. So taking out that carpet, making it a [1:49:28, 1:49:46]: nine slip floor that's where most commercial places are going now with that so all those things would be in we've renovated the kitchen we have a new stove uh and confection oven in the kitchen so it would be just aesthetics of painting and so forth in the kitchen uh so [1:49:46, 1:49:51]: That would be the upstairs, some of the upstairs items that we would have. [1:49:52, 1:49:52]: Uh [1:49:53, 1:50:06]: Uh so the bathrooms again, that would be lighting and and some paint in the entries of those in the main doorway or main entryway as well. That would be included in that 170, those items. [1:50:06, 1:50:10]: Let me be quite frank with you, it honest is that listen. [1:50:10, 1:50:15]: We subsidize this facility every year with a significant amount of money. [1:50:15, 1:50:21]: And then obviously we're not um ever it's not gonna be a situation where we're turning around. [1:50:21, 1:50:23]: A tremendous amount of profit. [1:50:23, 1:50:24]: Uh from so [1:50:25, 1:50:29]: Where is the identified funding gonna come from, Mr. Wiggins? [1:50:32, 1:50:34]: Oh right there you have fifty thousand. [1:50:35, 1:50:38]: in the um budget right now and I think um [1:50:39, 1:50:40]: With the approval [1:50:40, 1:50:42]: I think the Rufus were gonna get started. [1:50:43, 1:50:44]: This this [1:50:44, 1:50:45]: For before [1:50:46, 1:50:47]: Um yeah, you were. [1:50:48, 1:50:56]: So we've hold on, this request is for three hundred and thirty three hundred and how much thousand dollars. Where's that? Where are we funding that from? [1:50:56, 1:50:59]: If I can print, I I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll get to that. [1:50:59, 1:51:02]: Okay. This this right now the fifty thousand. [1:51:02, 1:51:06]: Which will which is this would be a project which will move over into [1:51:07, 1:51:08]: Twenty twenty two. [1:51:08, 1:51:11]: Twenty twenty two, you have a hundred and fifty thousand. [1:51:11, 1:51:14]: So the hundred and fifty thousand plus the fifty thousand is two hundred. [1:51:15, 1:51:16]: Mm-hmm. [1:51:16, 1:51:18]: Talking um [1:51:19, 1:51:24]: Uh final about hotel using hot you can use hotel motel toward this. [1:51:25, 1:51:28]: And we can take we can use 134,000 dollars. [1:51:28, 1:51:29]: Of hotel motel. [1:51:30, 1:51:31]: To finish out the project. [1:51:32, 1:51:40]: Okay, well that sounds very so we uh so we can use hotel motel tax for this to for the difference. Okay. Okay. [1:51:40, 1:51:42]: Something you can use for that. And now [1:51:42, 1:51:47]: We can we can now we're gonna make sure we're gonna confirm this and talk to Mr. Washington. [1:51:47, 1:51:48]: And uh Mr. Berry [1:51:49, 1:51:51]: And I think the corner was already [1:51:51, 1:51:53]: All already got some information. [1:51:54, 1:51:55]: From his look. [1:51:55, 1:52:00]: From um here we came. Laura Lucre at tourism. [1:52:00, 1:52:10]: And uh so she has said that of the we have eight per eight percent uh of of hotel those that hotel tax. [1:52:10, 1:52:16]: 18.7% of that eight percent can be used for product development. [1:52:16, 1:52:20]: And so we can use it for any items that we would like. [1:52:20, 1:52:35]: And uh 37.5 percent of that eight percent could is is is unrestricted. So we can use that though those two buckets of the three buckets of that those dollars, those tax dollars that we have uh for. [1:52:35, 1:52:38]: uh for for building fund if we so choose. [1:52:39, 1:52:43]: Mayor, could I ask the attorneys to weigh in? Have they had any type of [1:52:43, 1:52:50]: conversation or do they have an opinion on what was just stated? Uh yeah, you sure you can and they're right here. They hear you. So go right here, please. [1:52:51, 1:52:59]: Mayor Pro Tem, I have not been part of any conversations. But ordinarily hotel motel tax can be used for tourism and that type of activities, but [1:52:59, 1:53:05]: Happy to to have further discussions offline, you know, and and make sure that the text can be used or [1:53:06, 1:53:07]: This can be properly funded. [1:53:08, 1:53:10]: Okay. Based on what based on what [1:53:10, 1:53:12]: I've heard tonight. [1:53:12, 1:53:15]: I'm willing to make a motion to go forward to approve. [1:53:16, 1:53:18]: Uh what has been recommended by uh [1:53:19, 1:53:21]: The Merrill Menders uh staff. [1:53:21, 1:53:27]: Whereas fifty thousand dollars is available this year, another hundred and fifty thousand dollars is available [1:53:28, 1:53:29]: Next year. [1:53:29, 1:53:32]: And with the contingency that [1:53:32, 1:53:35]: The whole tail moltel tax can be made [1:53:35, 1:53:37]: to use for the [1:53:37, 1:53:42]: uh remainder fully funding this project um with those dollars. [1:53:43, 1:53:45]: All right. Is there a second to the motion? [1:53:46, 1:53:48]: Because I I I second that. [1:53:48, 1:53:48]: Okay. [1:53:50, 1:53:53]: I stuck in there with a comment. Yes, sir, you can. [1:53:53, 1:54:06]: I I do second that, but I do want to confirm that the Murray Manders is a uh tourism uh entity and and those funds can be used um for for that as far as uh [1:54:06, 1:54:09]: Uh it's all about tourism. So yes. [1:54:10, 1:54:13]: Yeah, the simple fact that you you advertise on your billboard. [1:54:14, 1:54:20]: uh trying to draw people outside of stockbridge into stockbridge for that particular purpose. [1:54:20, 1:54:21]: Of using mirror manners. [1:54:22, 1:54:24]: It's it's uh you can use hotel motel. [1:54:25, 1:54:30]: Yes. And we have uh some we have some uh uh documentation from [1:54:31, 1:54:31]: See [1:54:31, 1:54:35]: Uh tourism uh director uh мисс локар. [1:54:35, 1:54:39]: To substantiate that that we can share with you. [1:54:41, 1:54:41]: Okay. [1:54:42, 1:54:45]: Good deal. Motion's been made, been seconded. Any further discussion? [1:54:46, 1:54:49]: And if not, uh all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:54:51, 1:54:59]: Mr. Blount. Okay, every now is decision. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Uh Mr. Jordan, Mr. Jordan and Conywell. We're now going to a new bit. [1:55:00, 1:55:02]: They're now going to new business. [1:55:02, 1:55:07]: Council consideration to approve and publish the 2022 public meeting schedules. [1:55:07, 1:55:09]: Uh presented by Miss Holliday, please. [1:55:13, 1:55:15]: Good evening, Mayor Council. Good evening. [1:55:16, 1:55:33]: The clerk's office is presenting the 2022 public meeting schedules for the stock created city council, Main Street Advisory Board, Downtown Development Authority, Planning Commission, Youth Council, and Youth Town Council Advisor. [1:55:33, 1:55:34]: Yeah. [1:55:34, 1:55:36]: Yeah, we're gonna have some type of feedback there. [1:55:36, 1:55:38]: That yeah, she's turned it off. [1:55:38, 1:55:46]: Okay. So upon approval, um, the meeting schedules will be published in the Henry County, I'm sorry, in the Henry Harold, the city's legal organ. [1:55:47, 1:55:53]: All boards and committees have approved their recommended schedules as follows. [1:55:53, 1:56:00]: The DDA will hold its meetings on the third Tuesday of each month virtually until further notice at 6 p.m. [1:56:01, 1:56:12]: The Main Street Advisory Board will hold meetings on the second Friday of each month at 9 a.m. unless otherwise noted, and we'll meet virtually until further notice. [1:56:13, 1:56:19]: The planning commission will meet on the fourth Thursday of each month at 6 p.m. All meetings will be virtual. [1:56:20, 1:56:27]: The Youth Council Advisory Committee will meet on the third Tuesday of each month at 6 30 p.m. in the Patrick Henry meeting room. [1:56:29, 1:56:36]: The youth council will meet on the second Wednesday of each month at five thirty PM in the Levi meeting room. [1:56:37, 1:56:47]: So but before you tonight, Mayor and Council, for the city council meetings and the city council work session meetings, there are two options. There were requests from [1:56:48, 1:56:49]: Staff and others. [1:56:50, 1:56:53]: who are requesting two options. [1:56:54, 1:56:58]: for the meetings for the city council and city council work session. [1:56:59, 1:57:00]: Option number one. [1:57:01, 1:57:04]: Would be for the meeting schedule to remain the same as it currently is. [1:57:05, 1:57:08]: Meeting on the second Monday of each month at six PM. [1:57:09, 1:57:12]: And the last Tuesday of each month at six PM. [1:57:13, 1:57:14]: Option two. [1:57:15, 1:57:19]: Is meeting on the second Monday of the month at six PM. [1:57:20, 1:57:22]: And the last Monday [1:57:22, 1:57:26]: I'm sorry, the last Tuesday for the work session meeting at four PM. [1:57:27, 1:57:32]: There are other options that can be made by anyone. Those those are the two that are being presented. [1:57:33, 1:57:37]: to you tonight. So I'm happy to answer any questions that you may have. [1:57:37, 1:57:39]: Mr. Blount, saw your hand first. Go ahead, sir. [1:57:41, 1:57:53]: Uh uh quick question. I I like that one option, but only only variation that I didn't like is that you had a council meeting actually on uh Valentine's Day. [1:57:54, 1:58:07]: Um on February 14th, we had a uh council meeting on that day. If we can amend that day in itself, uh I I I would like that option. I think it was option one, was it was it one? [1:58:08, 1:58:16]: Yeah, probably. I think we'd have to ask legal on that. Your charter has that the council meets on the second Monday of the month. [1:58:17, 1:58:18]: So [1:58:19, 1:58:21]: I would I would have to ask legal. [1:58:21, 1:58:23]: If we are able to move that [1:58:24, 1:58:25]: They are not. [1:58:28, 1:58:30]: Gentlemen, you have an idea? [1:58:32, 1:58:37]: I need to look at the charter. This is Jeremy. I need to look at the charter. That's what I'm pulling up now. [1:58:37, 1:58:42]: Yeah, it just you know it states that we meet on the second Monday, but whether or not we can [1:58:43, 1:58:55]: beer from that I would need. Well that was just something I mean. I mean uh I'm willing to listen to uh the other council members on on that for the meeting days. I'm fine with whatever they want to do. [1:58:55, 1:58:58]: And we just bring our spouses and loved ones to the meeting with us, right? [1:58:59, 1:59:12]: I don't know if I want to keep them up to one o'clock though. No, you won't you won't. They w they'll force you to to get done with the meeting. It's a joke. It's a joke. Okay. [1:59:13, 1:59:17]: Oh my god. Okay. Any other comments from the council? [1:59:21, 1:59:38]: Okay, I guess as it yeah, go ahead, Mayor Protein. Go ahead. Now I heard something in there about a clause for one of the boards that said all meetings will be virtual. Is that I know that's something that we're doing. We were hoping to move back when then Omicron came up, but can that be specified? [1:59:40, 1:59:43]: That's your planning commission that will meet. [1:59:47, 1:59:51]: Because in a non emergency situation, can they continue to meet [1:59:51, 1:59:55]: Can they specify for the whole year they're gonna meet virtually? [1:59:59, 2:00:13]: Ms. Johnson is on the line. I don't know if well the board has voted, so I don't know if if that would have to go back to the board, but we would need to publish this by January one. No, I need the attorneys to what you're the illegal opinion is what he's asking for, right? [2:00:17, 2:00:37]: I I would imagine as long as we we are in a state of some type of emergency with this pandemic, it would be fine. And I think uh that there has been some legal um approval at the state level, I believe, in reference to this issue. I believe. Um I believe I'm pretty sure it's something that would be further discussed at the Cities United next month as well. We might we're looking at the charter on [2:00:37, 2:00:40]: on the first one and we'll have a we'll look at the second one in just a [2:00:40, 2:00:42]: Okay. Good deal. Thank you. [2:00:45, 2:01:05]: Yeah, I think it uh I think we should be able to do it as long as we comply with open meetings uh regulatory guidance. But in and it's in a pandemic and being in a pandemic, I mean heck, we're all let me clarify. I'm certainly in support of continuing while Omicron is out there and all of that. But can you specify twelve the whole [2:01:05, 2:01:14]: Whole year of 2022, if things improve, that you're gonna say, I'm gonna continue. That's what I'm that's what I'm asking for. [2:01:20, 2:01:23]: Oh yeah, Mr. Thomas Glazer. [2:01:24, 2:01:29]: Not nothing is written in stone. I I I think you can designate tonight. [2:01:30, 2:01:32]: And if you need to come back and modify. [2:01:32, 2:01:33]: Uh [2:01:33, 2:01:35]: I I think you can do that. [2:01:35, 2:01:40]: I don't want us to get caught up in that. I just think if you need to, depending on um [2:01:40, 2:01:43]: You know, what's happening, you know, you can just come back and modify. [2:01:44, 2:01:46]: I would imagine you're probably right about that. [2:01:47, 2:01:52]: Okay. Any other comments in reference to option one or option two for the city council meetings? [2:01:54, 2:01:55]: It's one way or the other. [2:01:56, 2:02:05]: I prefer prefer option one myself, but uh but it's also a simple at least a simple content uh consensus of the council in this aspect. But uh [2:02:05, 2:02:18]: Uh in that aspect. But uh and to repeat in case someone is just joining, option one is to meet at six o'clock for the Monday meeting and also for the work session meeting at six. Option two is to meet at six o'clock. [2:02:19, 2:02:20]: on the Monday meeting and [2:02:21, 2:02:25]: Four o'clock for the work session meeting on the last Tuesday of the month. [2:02:25, 2:02:26]: Mayor. [2:02:26, 2:02:27]: Yes, sir. [2:02:27, 2:02:31]: I will simply say this. The reason that I like the later meeting. [2:02:31, 2:02:36]: Is cause people who work can attend the meeting. When you move it up to three or four o'clock. [2:02:36, 2:02:41]: then people who might ordinarily show up or be participate. [2:02:41, 2:02:59]: They won't. So I'm I'm in favor of option one. No, I understand. And I believe I mentioned that to our attorneys before about that as we had this discussion that was the reason for that to allow more participation from the citizens. We won't be in this pandemic forever. It won't be virtual forever. We'll get back in the city in city hall, city council chambers eventually. [2:03:00, 2:03:01]: Uh Mr. Mutt Blount, go ahead, please. [2:03:02, 2:03:09]: Mayor, I'm I'm in favor also, uh, like I said, with the provision that whatever provision we can make, but I'm in I'm in favor with [2:03:09, 2:03:12]: The work session and the council meeting remaining at six o'clock. [2:03:13, 2:03:15]: Um I don't want to get into that though. [2:03:16, 2:03:23]: That debacle uh we once got it that went down that road before. So I think I think we uh six o'clock crossed the borders for me also. [2:03:23, 2:03:26]: Okay. That's option one. Thank you. Right. [2:03:26, 2:03:30]: Attorneys, do you have any other input uh before we go forward a vote vote here? [2:03:32, 2:03:37]: In our review of it, normally it would allow you all to if it was not gonna be on a Monday or a Tuesday. [2:03:38, 2:03:48]: We looked at the two code sections and normally would allow you to change some meetings, but because it doesn't say you always have to ha have them on a Monday or a Tuesday and it also doesn't say the time, which is with the UL's latitude. [2:03:50, 2:03:51]: The concern that we just have. [2:03:52, 2:04:01]: was making sure that we were able to point to the sections which we can if the council wants to hear where they are, which is section three point one three in the charter. And then under article two. [2:04:02, 2:04:11]: And then under article two with the meetings of calling special meetings, it says that you all normally have meetings on the Mondays and the Tuesdays. It doesn't say always. [2:04:13, 2:04:20]: All right. Well I'm I'm I'm willing to entertain a motion uh folks for whatever option that you want here. So we move forward. [2:04:20, 2:04:20]: Okay. [2:04:21, 2:04:22]: Mere [2:04:22, 2:04:22]: Yes, sir. [2:04:23, 2:04:25]: I'll make a motion to move forward option one. [2:04:26, 2:04:28]: Uh as described by the city clerk. [2:04:29, 2:04:44]: Okay, and also yeah, yes sir. Uh I'm I'm assuming we also need to approve the rest of uh Miss Holliday, approve the rest of the other meetings for rest of the committees as well. Correct, unless there is uh an objection to anyone. All right. Um Mayor Potem, if you can expand your motion, please. [2:04:45, 2:04:49]: Yes, to include all of the boards and committees uh for the city. [2:04:49, 2:04:54]: Okay. Is there a second? Ms. Mr. Blount seconds that okay, any further discussion? [2:04:55, 2:04:58]: Yeah, Miss Barber, yeah. Okay, all all in favor, please indicate. [2:05:00, 2:05:03]: Okay, fantastic. It's a fantastic decision. Thank you very much. [2:05:03, 2:05:04]: Okay. [2:05:04, 2:05:12]: Uh council consideration uh to approve the uh 2022 agenda timeline. Miss Holliday, please. [2:05:13, 2:05:15]: Yes, Mayor and Council. [2:05:15, 2:05:18]: You know, this one is near and dear to the clerk's heart. [2:05:19, 2:05:25]: This is the agenda timeline that is distributed to staff, mayor and counselor. [2:05:26, 2:05:28]: Attorney City City Manager. [2:05:31, 2:05:38]: With a schedule of when documents are due to the clerk's office so that we can present them to the mayor and council. [2:05:39, 2:05:44]: in a timely and efficient manner for you all to be able to have the opportunity and the time [2:05:45, 2:05:46]: to review. [2:05:46, 2:05:53]: before you come to your council meeting to make these decisions. So what it is, it is a schedule for the entire year. [2:05:54, 2:05:56]: For staff. [2:05:57, 2:05:58]: The attorneys. [2:05:59, 2:06:01]: Your city manager. [2:06:01, 2:06:03]: to have and adhere to. [2:06:06, 2:06:08]: And I hope that you all approve it. [2:06:09, 2:06:09]: All right. [2:06:10, 2:06:12]: Oh yeah, Mr. Thomas. I'm sorry. Go ahead, sir. [2:06:12, 2:06:15]: Uh I I move to approve. [2:06:15, 2:06:19]: Uh, it is it is crucial, and I think we have seen. [2:06:19, 2:06:22]: In the last few weeks that when information [2:06:23, 2:06:40]: uh do not come to us in in a timely manner that we cannot make informed decisions. And I I think that is paramount in for the city council to be able to make these decisions. We need to have information and we need time. Uh just like um [2:06:40, 2:06:53]: the these dictionaries that we had here recently, uh you you cannot read through all of that uh within a few days. So I move to uh accept the timeline as presented by the uh clerk's office. [2:06:53, 2:06:55]: All right. Is there a second? [2:06:57, 2:07:05]: Yeah, Miss Barber seconds that okay. Any further discussion? No, yeah, I'm sorry. I didn't believe it. Now let me ask, is this even possible? [2:07:05, 2:07:11]: Let's say we improve the timeline this timeline for the staff, but of [2:07:11, 2:07:15]: Council members want to add items to the agenda. [2:07:15, 2:07:16]: The [2:07:16, 2:07:19]: can be a different date. That time window can be shorter. [2:07:21, 2:07:24]: Is that possible? Because this is like two weeks out. [2:07:25, 2:07:27]: Uh for us to put items on the agenda. [2:07:28, 2:07:30]: But let's say we cut the we leave we [2:07:30, 2:07:35]: The timeline for the staff is the same for the routine ordinary items. [2:07:35, 2:07:36]: But for the council [2:07:37, 2:07:45]: We we might want to cut that down to seven days for us to add another item to uh the agenda is there. Is that possible? [2:07:47, 2:07:55]: Well I respond. Yes. Yes, go ahead. Go ahead and respond. So if it's a seven day window, you all have uh [2:07:55, 2:07:57]: approved a resolution. [2:07:57, 2:08:01]: that we have to have the documents to you one week out. [2:08:02, 2:08:04]: So there would no longer be that window. [2:08:08, 2:08:28]: See, and the other thing I would like to mention, we we uh if you think about it, we what would you do early this evening? We've already amended the agenda with several items and took some things off and added some things, and we'd rather not do that, but it does happen and it happened this evening. So I would think the timeline that the clerk is asking for should remain the same, and hopefully that uh we won't make [2:08:27, 2:08:47]: it a habit to continue to add things or take things off at the last moment. But anyway, that's uh my two cents on this. Mr. Let's move on. Okay, let's move on. Yeah I I agree I agree with you mayor because it it doesn't matter uh if we stick with this because the amendments the agenda is coming they come every week anyway. Uh you know you need is three votes to say okay. [2:08:47, 2:08:56]: And so, you know, that's what you know, that's kind of a mute point right there. But I would I would that this council would actually really move toward having a true work session. [2:08:57, 2:09:17]: That we can agree on certain items that we can start really formulating uh consent agendas for our actual council meetings and uh kind of really get into some type of uniformity when it comes to work session and council meetings so that we won't have one o'clock nights and uh and that council would uh when when that uh when the clerk gets [2:09:17, 2:09:19]: us that information two weeks prior to council meetings. [2:09:20, 2:09:27]: Is that we seek staff and whoever we need to talk to prior to the meetings and not uh let uh the council meeting be the first time we see it and we sit here all night. [2:09:28, 2:09:31]: asking questions that we could ask in between. That's my two cents. [2:09:31, 2:09:39]: All right, then any further comments? Uh okay, so um the motion was made and seconded, is that correct? [2:09:40, 2:09:44]: That's correct, ma'am. Okay. So if that's the case, all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [2:09:45, 2:09:49]: Okay, it is your now institution on that. Okay, thank you very much. Thank you. All right. [2:09:50, 2:09:57]: All right, so um council consideration to approve the 2022 council initiative calendar presented by um [2:09:57, 2:10:00]: Miss Pearson, Zenovia, please. [2:10:02, 2:10:11]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. I'd like to present to you the 2022 Council initiative calendar of events for your approval. [2:10:13, 2:10:13]: Okay. [2:10:14, 2:10:19]: Is there a motion, any questions for her? And if not, is there a motion to accept the calendar as written? [2:10:20, 2:10:23]: Low move. Was there a second? Mr. Thomas seconds that. [2:10:23, 2:10:24]: Uh [2:10:25, 2:10:40]: I'm go ahead, Mayor. Okay. I got Mayor Pro Tem a motion. I actually had a comment. Okay. No problem, sir. Mayor Pro Tem made that motion. Mr. Thomas seconded that motion. Mr. Thomas, what was your comment? I'm I'm I'm I'm um went back up. Am I assuming you're second the motion, sir? Is that correct? [2:10:42, 2:10:47]: Yeah, I second I I I I know there's a motion and I know it needs to be second. [2:10:47, 2:10:50]: I can go ahead and second that and I can make my comment. [2:10:51, 2:10:53]: Um, you know, after that, which is gonna be um [2:10:55, 2:10:56]: Uh-huh. [2:10:56, 2:11:00]: Let me just let me just comment the the carame handbrick. [2:11:00, 2:11:04]: event uh is normally the um [2:11:04, 2:11:18]: the third Saturday. Uh I have not confirmed that with the organization. That may be the only change, but it it's it's not a deal breaker. I I I think uh once that's confirmed, I can come back at any time and um [2:11:18, 2:11:20]: As for um [2:11:20, 2:11:22]: A modification, so it's not a problem. [2:11:22, 2:11:25]: Okay. As long as it does does not conflict. [2:11:25, 2:11:27]: From what I can tell. [2:11:27, 2:11:32]: Uh with the calendar, it does not conflict. So I'll I'll just come back, but I do approve. [2:11:33, 2:11:41]: Okay. Absolutely. So motion the motion to made mid-second. Any further conversation? And if not, all in favor motion all supporting the motion, please indicate. [2:11:42, 2:11:44]: Okay, so now appreciate it. Thank you, Council. [2:11:46, 2:11:50]: Okay, council consideration approved the 2022 events calendar. [2:11:51, 2:11:53]: Presented by Miss Kim Jordan, please. [2:11:54, 2:12:12]: Uh yes, sir. Um the events team has included the proposed 2022 list of scheduled events in your packet. We look forward to a great year of fun-filled activities and celebrations for the citizens of Stockbridge. We have added three new events for next year, the Fourth of July extravaganza. [2:12:13, 2:12:17]: Uh in the city of Stockbridge centennial celebration as well as a Halloween festival. [2:12:18, 2:12:22]: Um, does anyone have any questions about the calendar or do I need to share it? [2:12:23, 2:12:25]: Yeah, uh would be wood somewhere. [2:12:25, 2:12:36]: Yeah sure. If see if you can share that'd be fine. So the council. Yeah, but we we need to display that so the public can see it. This meeting is for them. So let's see that and then uh have a quick follow-up question. [2:12:37, 2:12:39]: Okay, let me s [2:12:40, 2:12:40]: Mm. [2:12:41, 2:12:42]: I can get this. [2:12:46, 2:12:46]: Sorry. [2:12:51, 2:12:51]: Yep. [2:12:52, 2:12:54]: I'm so sorry. I thought I had it ready to go. [2:12:57, 2:12:58]: Oh my [2:12:58, 2:13:01]: So if I'll ask my question while she's looking for that. [2:13:03, 2:13:07]: I think we have we have agreed uh that we were gonna have the [2:13:07, 2:13:10]: uh career expos or the job fairs. [2:13:10, 2:13:17]: Uh are they allocated for in any way in time or you just gotta wait till we get with goodwill on that? [2:13:18, 2:13:19]: Can you see the calendar now? [2:13:19, 2:13:26]: Yeah, we can now, yes. Oh one. Okay. [2:13:28, 2:13:29]: That's your question. [2:13:29, 2:13:33]: Mayor Pro Tem, we we are in discussions with the [2:13:34, 2:13:37]: Uh we are discussions with the uh Goodwill. [2:13:37, 2:13:38]: To [2:13:38, 2:13:43]: to to uh have another I uh to have that book uh job fair in April. [2:13:44, 2:13:55]: Yeah, certainly. I just want to follow up on that. With these times and these employers struggling to find employees, we need to do our part uh to make sure that uh we're we're leaning forward. [2:13:56, 2:14:01]: Yes, sir. We plan to have a robust fair this year with many different industries from the community. [2:14:02, 2:14:03]: Because of the um [2:14:03, 2:14:07]: wanna engage with the community and promote working and getting back to work and helping [2:14:07, 2:14:11]: Helping the ka uh the industries and businesses hire people. [2:14:11, 2:14:14]: There's so many that need need staff. [2:14:15, 2:14:21]: So we want to and we're gonna include the new police department too for whatever hiring needs they they have. [2:14:22, 2:14:41]: We we also will be doing community engagement with uh as as Ms. Jordan said, with some of those uh community uh uh uh uh companies that are in the community uh that to bring them in ourselves, you know, to engage them ourselves to let them know about this event. [2:14:43, 2:14:43]: Thank you. [2:14:44, 2:14:48]: And we hope to have the lower level of the Merlmanders up and running so we can have um [2:14:48, 2:14:52]: Yeah, a lot of people coming in and out and going to different tables and talking to different [2:14:53, 2:14:55]: Hopefully, you know, applying right there on site even. [2:14:57, 2:15:02]: Okay. Any further comments? Oh sorry. Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [2:15:03, 2:15:04]: Yes. Um [2:15:05, 2:15:06]: So [2:15:07, 2:15:09]: I know that at our last meeting we approved. [2:15:10, 2:15:10]: Um [2:15:11, 2:15:12]: A Halloween. [2:15:12, 2:15:14]: Festival on Halloween Day. [2:15:15, 2:15:15]: Mm-hmm. [2:15:15, 2:15:16]: As a city. [2:15:17, 2:15:21]: We also have Cal Haven Vent who's going to be doing her [2:15:21, 2:15:22]: Um [2:15:22, 2:15:24]: Council initiative. [2:15:24, 2:15:26]: Uh the weekend before. [2:15:27, 2:15:29]: And we also have the youth council. [2:15:30, 2:15:31]: Hmm. [2:15:31, 2:15:34]: I think it's gonna do another fall festival. [2:15:39, 2:15:40]: That particular [2:15:40, 2:15:41]: Even [2:15:42, 2:15:43]: whole Halloween. I think we're [2:15:44, 2:15:44]: Um [2:15:46, 2:15:59]: doing overkill. I want to rescind my vote for that Halloween festival. I would think you can't do that at this point, uh, Councilman Barber. I mean that's that's that was that was another meeting and some votes already been taken. [2:16:00, 2:16:00]: Huh? [2:16:00, 2:16:02]: I don't think you can legally do that. [2:16:03, 2:16:06]: Mayor Ford, I'd like to make a motion to rescind my vote. [2:16:07, 2:16:09]: Um for approval of [2:16:10, 2:16:12]: um this Halloween event on Halloween Day. [2:16:13, 2:16:22]: We already have a motion on the floor, I believe. We are I believe we already have a motion on the floor in the discussion phase. You can't put another motion on the floor when we have a pending motion. We have this motion then. [2:16:23, 2:16:24]: I'm sorry. [2:16:25, 2:16:28]: I'll wait until after we take the motion or take the vote. [2:16:28, 2:16:31]: for to approve the schedule. [2:16:31, 2:16:32]: All right. [2:16:32, 2:16:35]: And I'll add my comment and I want to rescind my vote. [2:16:36, 2:16:41]: All right. Uh let's see here. Any further comments about this potential? Yes, sir. [2:16:42, 2:17:00]: Yeah, my qu uh question, um, sorry, I had to move around, um, is that when when we have initiatives and then we move those initiatives to city events and and respectfully we want those initiatives, those city events to because we've taken it to a level where it's become [2:17:01, 2:17:01]: Um [2:17:02, 2:17:22]: To whatever magnitude it is, whether it be the back to school kickoff, the uh trail event uh Mr. uh Alexander does or uh whatever event uh Mr. Thomas or uh Ms. Barber does. But when we make it a city event, uh we want to see it to that that level. Not that now that it's being funded by the city, we understand. [2:17:22, 2:17:33]: And the bench is doing it, and usually there's a committee meetings of boards. I would think that we would at least not to say how the event is going because they are they're city events now, but that. [2:17:33, 2:17:40]: uh that we can at least be aware of the magnitude and what's gonna happen to those events because [2:17:40, 2:17:43]: For me and uh and I guess a lot been going on because we're in a pandemic. [2:17:44, 2:17:49]: Um I found out we was doing a drive-thru uh back to school event uh [2:17:49, 2:17:52]: Within a week of of the band even happening. [2:17:52, 2:18:02]: And uh I I think that when we give those give our initiatives to the city of cities events that we want to have some more, we want to be informed a little bit better and at least see. [2:18:02, 2:18:22]: uh where that event is going because it it if if as an initiative became one of our babies. I'm pretty sure every initiative that everyone does it becomes their baby. And they want to make sure that baby's in good hands and uh they want to see how how it's going and and at least uh at least be aware of all the uh the the ins and outs of those events. So I I [2:18:22, 2:18:31]: However, we need to do to make sure that those things happen, I would like Mr. Conywell and Ms. Jordan to uh help facilitate that if you guys would. [2:18:31, 2:18:35]: Absolutely. Only with the initiatives that become city events. [2:18:36, 2:18:47]: Sure, I'm happy to share the agenda with you and the timeline and everything else. Or I can speak to any of these events right now if you have a question about a particular one you're interested in, what we have thought and brainstormed on. [2:18:48, 2:19:08]: No, no, it's just uh uh Mr uh uh uh Ms. Canyon Mr. Ingram uh uh uh probably inform you on uh what events was formerly uh youth council I'm sorry, not youth council, but was formerly council members events. And we can just go in appropriate appropriate like that. I don't I'm not I'm not saying that to address individually tonight to prolong anything. I just [2:19:08, 2:19:17]: think that we should uh at least have some awareness of what actually going on with those events because I'm pretty sure you guys have a board and you guys meet on what you're doing. That's just only my two centing that. [2:19:17, 2:19:19]: Okay, sure. Happy to do that. [2:19:21, 2:19:27]: All right, the motion is made in the second. So uh should be all the comments, uh all in favor of the motion and this calendar, please indicate. [2:19:30, 2:19:32]: for approval of this um of the calendar. [2:19:37, 2:19:38]: Okay, one. [2:19:38, 2:19:46]: Mayor. Yes, ma'am. I'm sorry, but I don't have who made the motion in the second on the counter. I thought we had a motion in the second on the counter. [2:19:47, 2:19:56]: I d I don't have that recorded. Okay. I thought I made the motion. Okay. Oh unless I'm supposed to Well I thought yeah, I thought you did make the motion. I I'll second I'll second if you don't have one there. [2:19:57, 2:20:03]: Okay. Uh okay. So Alexander s mote made the motion been segmented by uh Calcman Blount then. [2:20:04, 2:20:06]: Okay. All favor motion, please indicate. [2:20:06, 2:20:09]: You'll have to tell me, Mayor, because the screen is up. [2:20:10, 2:20:18]: All right, uh I got one. Got Alexander says yes. Blount says yes. Um okay, there we go. But Thomas says yes. [2:20:19, 2:20:20]: Miss Barber, your vote. [2:20:21, 2:20:25]: opposing. Okay, so I'll upstage. I'll upset. [2:20:26, 2:20:29]: Three zero one motion passed. Okay. [2:20:30, 2:20:33]: And this aspect. All right, Miss Barber, go ahead. [2:20:33, 2:20:40]: Okay, I want to make a motion to rescind my vote from last week's meeting. [2:20:40, 2:20:45]: in support of the how we the cities how we event [2:20:46, 2:20:52]: Now I need to ask first of all, I need to ask even uh the uh the attorneys go whether or not you can legally do that after it's already been passed and [2:20:52, 2:20:59]: So I don't know if you can legally do that at all. It doesn't make sense to me to do that, but I need legal opinion, I suppose, on this. [2:21:00, 2:21:09]: Don't think that can be done. I mean, the council member could make a note for the record in this meeting that she changes her position, but a vote history is history at this point. The vote's been taken. [2:21:09, 2:21:11]: Well Mayor, um Miss Mary. [2:21:12, 2:21:13]: And Mayor Ford. [2:21:14, 2:21:19]: There have been on several occasions that council members have rescinded their vote. [2:21:19, 2:21:21]: As long as having the one's charge. [2:21:22, 2:21:24]: Got approved. [2:21:24, 2:21:26]: Whatever the action is. [2:21:27, 2:21:28]: I can bring it back. [2:21:28, 2:21:29]: To the table. [2:21:29, 2:21:30]: For a vote. [2:21:31, 2:21:34]: I was amongst the authority to a couple. [2:21:34, 2:21:35]: The city Halloween event. [2:21:36, 2:21:37]: It was three two. [2:21:38, 2:21:40]: А но лонго супорт. [2:21:41, 2:21:43]: Moving forward with the Halloween event. [2:21:43, 2:21:45]: As a city event. [2:21:45, 2:21:50]: I explained just a minute ago, the reason being Councilwoman Gantt. [2:21:50, 2:21:51]: Already has a [2:21:52, 2:21:54]: Festival that she's doing. [2:21:54, 2:21:57]: The week well, a couple of days prior to Halloween. [2:21:59, 2:22:03]: The youth also is gonna do a festival the same month. [2:22:03, 2:22:04]: It makes no sense. [2:22:05, 2:22:14]: All right. Council member real quick. Sorry, I understood saying you wanted to change your vote from yes to no. That can't be done. If you want to bring a motion back to council to [2:22:15, 2:22:21]: Undo the action. That that yeah, that would be a full vote. But just changing your vote from yes to no can't be done. [2:22:21, 2:22:28]: Okay, that's what I want to do. I want to bring back a motion to reconsider my vote from the last meeting. [2:22:29, 2:22:37]: No. Mayor real quick. Stand by Mayor Potter. Mr. Tom, sway it, please. Uh [2:22:38, 2:22:43]: Mayor Ford, uh my understanding and knowledge of this uh issue. [2:22:43, 2:22:46]: Any council member [2:22:46, 2:22:49]: That voted in the affirmative. [2:22:50, 2:22:53]: Of only one meet at the very next meeting. [2:22:53, 2:22:56]: The very next meeting of the city council. [2:22:56, 2:23:00]: Uh that person can reconsider if they voted. [2:23:00, 2:23:02]: uh in the affirmative. [2:23:02, 2:23:09]: they can reconsider at the very next meeting, not two meetings past that, but at the very next meeting. [2:23:09, 2:23:14]: that council person that voted in the affirmative can reconsider that vote. [2:23:14, 2:23:23]: Thank you, Councilman Thomas. Stand by please. Stand by, please. Okay, so on that note, uh I'm gonna get to back to attorneys in a second. Mr. Blount. [2:23:24, 2:23:28]: Yeah, Mayor, you know, when this when this vote file first came about. [2:23:29, 2:23:35]: What was understood in that vote and I brought it up? Isn't it if it's not in the minutes, is in is in the recording on the meeting. [2:23:36, 2:23:40]: We talked about coun uh councillor woman's Gantts event. [2:23:41, 2:23:48]: We talked about the uh respecting each other's uh initiatives versus planning council uh uh city events. [2:23:48, 2:23:51]: And yet still it was voted on to move forward. [2:23:52, 2:23:57]: These this is already understood. It was vote it was voted to move forward with. [2:23:57, 2:24:13]: Um and whatever the city's attorneys d determine at this time what what we can and can't do, uh that's that's up to them. But this the knowledge of what we was voting for, and I voted against it, was on the table at that time, that this would be in conflict. [2:24:14, 2:24:23]: Because it was and and Councilwoman Ganttz spoke on it and I spoke on it, that it was in that we thought it was in conflict and an infringement on a counseling's initiative. [2:24:23, 2:24:36]: to have this event. So all the information was always uh always there. So if council uh councilwoman uh barber wants to rescind or whatever that's that's on that but but just to let everyone know this information was already out there. [2:24:37, 2:24:52]: All right. Um now, yeah, Mr. Berry, I see your hand'cause I'm gonna come to you for a legal opinion anyway, in reference to legally, because of what Mr. Thomas said. I don't I have to admit I don't recall that, but is that can we legally that is under Robert's rules, that is correct. The the [2:24:52, 2:24:58]: The side that's in the majority. So if it's three, two who voted in favor of something. [2:24:58, 2:25:01]: The three who voted in favor could have it reconsidered. [2:25:02, 2:25:04]: If it was three two against or or two three. [2:25:05, 2:25:07]: Then the ones who all voted against could reconsider. [2:25:07, 2:25:12]: So it if counts I just don't remember, but if Councilwoman Barber was No, I have it right here. [2:25:12, 2:25:15]: Was in majority she can reconsider. [2:25:15, 2:25:18]: She can make a motion to reconsider. It then takes a vote. [2:25:19, 2:25:20]: To reconsider. [2:25:20, 2:25:23]: That's section two point oh [2:25:23, 2:25:28]: Four point one four oh motions to reconsider. Motion to reconsider of any of the proceedings of council. [2:25:28, 2:25:36]: Shall not be entertained unless it be made by a member who voted with a majority, and such motions should be made at the same or succeeding meeting. [2:25:37, 2:25:46]: Mayor Ford. Yeah, Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. Um, this is my point. I I I voted uh in favor of it and and I I'm still in favor of it. [2:25:47, 2:25:57]: I just want to make sure that how we operate procedurally wise, that it is correct. That's the only reason I I made that that that point because I knew. [2:25:57, 2:25:59]: That was the correct [2:26:00, 2:26:09]: uh information and and that again I don't want us to operate off of uh misinformation but Mayor now the issue at hand is is [2:26:11, 2:26:31]: her ability to reconsider. That's the issue. Now in a point of order call, uh the discussion has to be centered around that particular issue. So the issue is um her ability to re re um to reconsider. I'm still in favor. Again, I just don't want us to operate [2:26:31, 2:26:33]: [8794.1, 8798.7]: All right. All right. Appreciate it. And then we got clarity here. All right. So Miss Barber is back to you now. [2:26:40, 2:26:43]: Want to make a motion to reconsider my vote. [2:26:44, 2:27:00]: Okay. But this is the re so otherwise okay, and that's gotta be a second to that, I suppose, this aspect, right? Turning I respect that I respect the right to do that, Mayor. I second it. It's not reconsider her vote, it would be reconsider the entire vote all the council. Right. The motion. [2:27:01, 2:27:03]: I make a motion to reconsider. [2:27:03, 2:27:04]: The motion. [2:27:05, 2:27:07]: At our previous meeting. [2:27:08, 2:27:09]: Pertaining to [2:27:09, 2:27:14]: The approval of the event as [2:27:15, 2:27:19]: All right, sir. Second to the motion. Point point of order, Mayor. Okay, go ahead, sir. [2:27:20, 2:27:24]: I I I'm still gonna differ with the opinion that that I'm hearing. [2:27:24, 2:27:25]: Um [2:27:27, 2:27:28]: Again. [2:27:28, 2:27:29]: Any council member [2:27:30, 2:27:34]: That voted in the meeting before in the affirmative. [2:27:35, 2:27:44]: I don't think it's a motion that they have to make. I don't know. I think the city clerk can clarify this, but I I just think it it's it's that councilperson's prerogative. [2:27:44, 2:27:46]: And is that council person right? [2:27:47, 2:27:49]: If they want to re consider. [2:27:50, 2:27:51]: Their vote. [2:27:51, 2:28:04]: uh at the very next meeting. I don't I don't think it's something that uh other council members have to approve or not approve. It's that council person prerogative and it's that person right if they want to reconsider. [2:28:05, 2:28:15]: period and then with that reconsideration the remaining vote is what um pushes it forward or uh deny it [2:28:15, 2:28:23]: Now that that's that's that's that's my education on that particular procedure. I don't someone can clarify me if I'm wrong. [2:28:24, 2:28:27]: Yeah, I can read it if you would like. Yeah, sure. Go ahead, please. [2:28:27, 2:28:33]: All right, so the motion to reconsider may be made only by a member who voted on the prevailing side. [2:28:34, 2:28:41]: In the original vote, such as someone who voted yes, if the motion had passed or voted no. [2:28:41, 2:28:43]: If the motion was depleted. [2:28:43, 2:28:49]: The making of the motion to reconsider takes precedence over all other motions and yields to nothing. [2:28:51, 2:28:51]: All right. [2:28:53, 2:28:55]: All right, attorneys, you're good with that as well? [2:28:57, 2:29:02]: Yes, because that what the clerk read contemplates a motion, not just like the the [2:29:02, 2:29:07]: sole power to do it, it requires a motion and then the affirmative vote. [2:29:09, 2:29:15]: All right, so she just it has a pre it has the motion has to come like any other motion has been properly moved and seconded. [2:29:15, 2:29:17]: Right. To reconsider the X. [2:29:18, 2:29:22]: Correct. All right. So it's back to Miss Barber again about about her motion. [2:29:23, 2:29:26]: I just made the motion. Okay. [2:29:27, 2:29:31]: to reconsider your vote, to change the vote. So and it needs to be seconded. Is that correct? [2:29:32, 2:29:34]: Ms. Blount, you second that motion. [2:29:35, 2:29:39]: All right. So I did so is then further discussion on this issue. [2:29:41, 2:29:47]: Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. I I I'm I'm taking issue with with how we're proceeding. [2:29:49, 2:29:52]: And and and the turnees could tell me if I'm wrong. [2:29:52, 2:29:54]: I do not think that [2:29:54, 2:29:55]: Council. [2:29:56, 2:29:58]: Can legislate [2:29:58, 2:30:02]: If a council person wants to reconsider their vote. [2:30:02, 2:30:04]: At the very next meeting, it is a right. [2:30:05, 2:30:10]: for them to reconsider that vote and and if that vote goes away. [2:30:11, 2:30:13]: Then what stands [2:30:13, 2:30:27]: that determines whether it is approved or not. But I don't think council say for instance, okay, it's asking for a motion. So if if her uh if her motion does not get a second, that means that she don't have a right to reconsider. [2:30:28, 2:30:29]: So that's why I think we're wrong. [2:30:30, 2:30:36]: I don't think we can legislate a council person's uh ability. [2:30:37, 2:30:42]: an authority to reconsider that vote at the very next meeting. [2:30:42, 2:30:50]: I don't think I don't think we have a right to do that. Because if you're going to vote whether she has a right to reconsider, that is incorrect. [2:30:51, 2:31:11]: All right, so she she takes her vote away. All right, that's her prerogative to do that. Then we have to go back to we have to vote again on or we go back. Okay. So I guess attorneys will say the the previous vote was three to two. If she takes her vote away, right, then the the remaining votes determine whether it's forward or not forward. Right. [2:31:11, 2:31:13]: And the remaining votes would make a two two. [2:31:14, 2:31:24]: All right. I mean that the that that that's that's my trade, that's my orientation. Okay, so the clerk is I would I would have to ask the clerk about that because I don't think that's ever been done for that. Okay, but that's [2:31:25, 2:31:26]: Um the the meeting [2:31:27, 2:31:33]: Two weeks ago is set in time. It's set in stone. You can't just like erase it. That's why you have a a a motion. [2:31:33, 2:31:36]: To bring it back before council. [2:31:36, 2:31:39]: Otherwise people could change their votes all the time. [2:31:40, 2:31:52]: But and that's why it takes a motion and and approval of the council to put it back on the table for consideration. But the only provision in y'all's charter and documents is a motion to reconsider if you're in the majority. [2:31:53, 2:31:56]: Maybe. If you're in the majority, you can decide if you want the motion to reconsider. [2:31:57, 2:32:00]: Then once you motion to reconsider, it's a motion before. [2:32:00, 2:32:04]: It's a motion before the body. And if the body decides to reconsider. [2:32:05, 2:32:10]: then the body can decide to reconsider because the person in the majority made that decision. And it's a majority decision only. [2:32:11, 2:32:13]: May Mayor Ford, if I may. [2:32:14, 2:32:15]: But Mr. Thomas go ahead, sir. [2:32:16, 2:32:22]: She is not reconsidering the motion of the item. [2:32:23, 2:32:26]: She is reconsidering her individual vote. [2:32:27, 2:32:30]: Not the issue that came forward. [2:32:30, 2:32:35]: Because of her reconsideration, then that determines whether [2:32:36, 2:32:37]: Without her vote. [2:32:38, 2:32:50]: Did it fail or did it pass? You can't change a vote that's already taken place. No, but she can re this is what Melford, this is where I think we're getting confused. She has a right. [2:32:51, 2:32:56]: to reconsider her individual vote. That's all her individual vote. [2:32:57, 2:33:05]: So, what I'm hearing is that we're trying to take away her in the and I don't read I'm sorry to go here because that may be a point in time when any one of us [2:33:06, 2:33:11]: We wanna come forward and reconsider our vote. So we need to just get it right. [2:33:12, 2:33:19]: All right, Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead please. [2:33:20, 2:33:21]: Councilman Tomman is is correct. [2:33:22, 2:33:25]: I'm prepared to make two separate motions. [2:33:26, 2:33:31]: There should be two separate motions. This first one is to reconsider. [2:33:32, 2:33:34]: I want to receive my vote. [2:33:34, 2:33:35]: That's the first one. [2:33:36, 2:33:37]: The second one is [2:33:37, 2:33:38]: The item. [2:33:39, 2:33:41]: If you want to put the item back on the table. [2:33:41, 2:33:43]: Because it would have failed once I rescited my vote. [2:33:44, 2:33:45]: So be it. [2:33:45, 2:33:46]: But [2:33:46, 2:33:49]: There should be two motions made here. [2:33:51, 2:33:53]: All right, stand by. [2:33:53, 2:33:56]: Here and somebody else rescinded their vote. [2:33:56, 2:34:00]: Last year as well. So why are we making a big deal about this? [2:34:02, 2:34:11]: Mayor Pro, I think we sh I think Mayor Ford, we just need to get some patterns from the clerk because I don't know what pass votes and then if she could just tell us whether there's ever been any of this that's happened. [2:34:12, 2:34:19]: That would I think give us a guide. And it has if you will, it did happen last year. [2:34:20, 2:34:33]: It happened with when we had a uh when we voted at a work session, I'm saying at a retreat last year, and Councilwoman Barber came to the meeting uh uh council meeting and changed her vote. It's happened already. [2:34:33, 2:34:37]: The presence of that has already been set and it w and it it was set in stone. [2:34:37, 2:34:38]: With that. [2:34:39, 2:34:43]: So that has happened. Is that has it has happened within the last year. [2:34:44, 2:34:49]: If you all remember that, that uh I'm I'm trying to remember what the item was, but I remember it happened. [2:34:49, 2:34:53]: Um parking item. It was in February of 2020. [2:34:54, 2:34:56]: Or it might be March, one or the other. [2:34:57, 2:34:58]: Um [2:34:59, 2:35:17]: I mean, it can happen. I I guess the conflict is coming with the process. If the process is to make two amendments to do it, then what I mean, we need to go ahead and do that because we're gonna be going all with this litigation all night on something that uh obviously uh the city attorney and the clerk has said she's got the right to do it. It's just how about how do we go about doing it? [2:35:19, 2:35:19]: Mayor. [2:35:20, 2:35:27]: Yes, ma'am. Go ahead. We move on. However, what what you need to consider is the fact that a motion [2:35:27, 2:35:30]: calls for a vote. That's and I'm that's [2:35:30, 2:35:31]: Okay. [2:35:32, 2:35:37]: F to bring a motion to the table, that means you are c asking for a vote. [2:35:38, 2:35:43]: Yes, and I made a motion to reconsider. Can we move forward with our motion, please? [2:35:45, 2:35:48]: All right. So you made a motion reconsider. Was that motion seconded? [2:35:50, 2:35:58]: It was seconded by Councilman Blount. Okay. Third time. All right. All right. So it's been seconded. So all in favor of the motion, please syndicate. [2:36:01, 2:36:02]: Opposed. [2:36:04, 2:36:05]: Abstain. [2:36:06, 2:36:10]: So we so what happened is mayor, we sit here and say [2:36:10, 2:36:13]: That the person has a right to do something, but we we vote not to give her that right. [2:36:15, 2:36:16]: Well that's my point. [2:36:16, 2:36:18]: Mairful that's that's my point. [2:36:19, 2:36:20]: You can't do that. [2:36:21, 2:36:21]: Yeah. [2:36:22, 2:36:24]: I saw council member, can I [2:36:25, 2:36:31]: Can I just give you a hypothetical that I mean the way we did it I think is correct, but I'll give you a hypothetical if y'all approved a zoning. [2:36:32, 2:36:33]: Three to two. [2:36:34, 2:36:41]: Then the the the next day someone goes out and starts building or does something to relying on the zoning. [2:36:41, 2:36:46]: And then two weeks later, someone reverses course by just said, Oops, I I want to change this way. [2:36:47, 2:36:50]: That the the the person has acted. [2:36:50, 2:36:52]: Based on the zoning on the three two boat. [2:36:53, 2:36:57]: So that's why it takes a process, a full council process, a motion. [2:36:58, 2:37:02]: To reconsider and then you actually vote on the the underlying motion again. [2:37:03, 2:37:05]: Rather than a person just simply saying [2:37:05, 2:37:08]: I want to change from yes to no or no to yes. [2:37:08, 2:37:09]: One. [2:37:09, 2:37:10]: Uhtor Berry. [2:37:10, 2:37:13]: I that that action. [2:37:13, 2:37:16]: With a developer or investor. [2:37:16, 2:37:17]: Um [2:37:17, 2:37:21]: That would be based on a contractual agreement, correct? [2:37:22, 2:37:30]: This is not contractual. All I'm asking is to resend m rescind my vote in support of an Halloween event. [2:37:31, 2:37:37]: There is no contractual agreement tied to that. So we have to look at these situations differently. [2:37:38, 2:37:46]: All of that. It's Robert's rules. I mean, I it I I just gave an example of zoning, but I mean we could come up with any example. [2:37:46, 2:37:48]: Totally different situation. [2:37:49, 2:38:01]: Mayor, uh stand by I have my hand up, right? Go ahead, sir. Okay, listen, we got six lawyers up here. Okay, we can go through this process all night. We just voted. [2:38:02, 2:38:17]: We we just voted. So in essence, what's going to happen is uh is is we can continue this process all night or we're gonna have another vote to see whether or not we give you the right, and then once you get the right, then we gotta have a right to overturn it. [2:38:17, 2:38:23]: After that. So what are we going to do? Because we can't keep going back all night with six lawyers discussing it. [2:38:24, 2:38:31]: Is the two attorneys gonna speak and then we're gonna move on or are we gonna have another vote? Let's make a decision. This is going on forever. [2:38:34, 2:38:41]: Well I say we move forward because uh the as far as I'm concerned, if the vote was was taken uh two weeks ago, over a week or so ago. [2:38:41, 2:38:53]: Okay, so let's move on. Ms. Blount, go ahead. And that's fine if if Councilwoman Barber wants to move on, because it's her prerogative. But if but if we're stating that someone has a right to do something. [2:38:53, 2:38:58]: And they do it, but we vote against that right. That's that's kind of interesting to me. [2:38:58, 2:39:02]: If she got a right to change her vote, then we allow that and then we just take another vote. [2:39:02, 2:39:06]: I wouldn't stand between any council member that has the right to change their vote. [2:39:06, 2:39:10]: If they have that right to to say no, you can't change your vote. [2:39:10, 2:39:16]: Well, we did we did we did vote on it in a vote. I mean the vote fail it failed, I believe, is what happened. [2:39:17, 2:39:21]: Uh my m my exactly. So we we're [2:39:21, 2:39:25]: W w we'll say that that person have a right but you vote against the person's right. [2:39:25, 2:39:26]: Uh nice. [2:39:26, 2:39:27]: Okay. [2:39:27, 2:39:33]: Mr. Thomas. I I just want to go on record that uh I I abstain from from from this item. [2:39:33, 2:39:53]: Okay. All right. Good deal. All right. What happened is that we're gonna move on, folks. I've somehow during the process, shame on me, I I missed uh Miss Wheeler. So otherwise there is the uh council consideration to approve the twenty twenty two holiday schedule. Miss Wheeler, please, and excuse me for my eyesight and missing you in this aspect. But go ahead. [2:39:53, 2:39:58]: your recommendation of the 2022 holidays scheduled for for next year. [2:39:59, 2:40:00]: We're asking for your approval. [2:40:03, 2:40:04]: Any questions for Miss Wheeler? [2:40:07, 2:40:13]: Could we could we put a mark could we put it could we display the schedule again for the public to see it? [2:40:14, 2:40:16]: I don't have it on my screen. I don't [2:40:17, 2:40:25]: Have it available to unless you can just if if no if we don't have access to it, put it on a is it a way that you can state what they are, I suppose? Would that help? [2:40:26, 2:40:29]: Well it's uh January first, New Year's Day. [2:40:30, 2:40:35]: Um January seventeenth, Martin Luther King holiday. April fifteenth, Good Friday. [2:40:35, 2:40:37]: May thirtieth, Memorial Day. [2:40:38, 2:40:40]: June nineteenth, which is Juneteenth holiday. [2:40:41, 2:40:43]: July fourth, Independence Day. [2:40:44, 2:40:45]: September fifth, Labor Day. [2:40:46, 2:40:48]: November twenty fourth, Thanksgiving Day. [2:40:49, 2:40:52]: November twenty fifth, the day after Thanksgiving. [2:40:52, 2:40:54]: December twenty fourth, Christmas Eve. [2:40:55, 2:40:57]: And December twenty fifth, Christmas Day. [2:40:59, 2:40:59]: Good. [2:41:00, 2:41:01]: There you have it. Okay. [2:41:02, 2:41:05]: Need a motion to accept the holiday schedule. [2:41:05, 2:41:08]: So move. All the counter. So moved. Mr. Blount, is there a second? [2:41:11, 2:41:12]: Is there a second? [2:41:15, 2:41:20]: Okay, no second for the holiday schedule calendar. Oh Miss Barber, you second that. All right. [2:41:21, 2:41:22]: All in favor, please indicate. [2:41:24, 2:41:29]: Okay, so now she seized. Thank you very much. Thank you, Ms. Wheeler. Okay, let's see here. [2:41:30, 2:41:40]: Council consideration approved the 2020 utility billing billing write-offs, fourteen thousand one hundred and eleven dollars and seventy cents. Mr. Wiggins, please. [2:41:41, 2:41:44]: Yes, this item here staff is asking council to [2:41:45, 2:41:48]: approved the twenty twenty utility building right off and the amount fourteen thousand [2:41:49, 2:41:51]: One hundred and eleven dollars seventy cents. [2:41:51, 2:41:52]: Uh uh. [2:41:53, 2:41:56]: This write off is uh is a decrease from last year. [2:41:57, 2:42:01]: Of about a hundred and sixty seven dollars fifty nine cents last year. [2:42:01, 2:42:02]: It was fourteen thousand. [2:42:03, 2:42:05]: Two hundred and seventy nine dollars and thirty-seven cents. [2:42:06, 2:42:07]: Uh [2:42:07, 2:42:08]: And [2:42:09, 2:42:09]: Right. [2:42:10, 2:42:11]: uh past years uh [2:42:13, 2:42:16]: We uh come and evaluate um [2:42:17, 2:42:18]: The accounts to where [2:42:19, 2:42:23]: Get to a point where these accounts have been sent off to collection. [2:42:23, 2:42:24]: And now we're asking [2:42:25, 2:42:29]: uh council to write them off, but at the same time we are [2:42:29, 2:42:31]: They're in collection that we [2:42:31, 2:42:34]: We'll s we'll let in collection go through the collection. [2:42:34, 2:42:37]: Прос тої ту колекта [2:42:38, 2:42:39]: The funds. [2:42:42, 2:42:44]: Okay. Any question for Mr. Wiggins Council? [2:42:46, 2:42:49]: If not, I need a motion to accept his proposal. [2:42:49, 2:42:53]: Mr. Mr. Alexander, okay, is there a second? [2:42:55, 2:42:56]: Is there a second? [2:43:00, 2:43:03]: Is there a second for this proposal to write this off? [2:43:05, 2:43:06]: Ms. Barber seconds that. [2:43:07, 2:43:08]: Any further discussion. [2:43:09, 2:43:11]: [9792.6, 9795.2]: Any further discussion? If not, all in favor, please indicate. [2:43:17, 2:43:29]: All right. Mr. Thomas, I'm sorry. Uh Abstain. Okay, so it's 301. Okay. Thank you. Um, Mr. Wiggins, counsel. All right. [2:43:31, 2:43:51]: Okay, council consideration appoint a uh member to the council on aging presented by says Mr. Washington present this. So it's only one applicant that I see in a book here. Typically, when we have these particular uh appointments, we go into Zeckling session for this to discuss this uh this aspect. Uh so I don't know if we want to do that in a little [2:43:51, 2:43:58]: later on or if we want to just go ahead and uh appoint this one individual here. Mr. Washington. Mr. Washington, please. [2:43:59, 2:44:05]: I was I was fine with it going forward, John I just for one. I mean if if we want to do all these in executive session again, that's who else called. [2:44:06, 2:44:10]: Okay. [2:44:10, 2:44:20]: Okay. Yes, Mayor Putin, go ahead, please. Yeah, I just want to go ahead and make a motion to apport the appoint Dorita Barber to the council on aging as a representative for the city of Stockbridge. [2:44:20, 2:44:21]: Okay, is there a second? [2:44:23, 2:44:24]: Is there a second? [2:44:26, 2:44:27]: Miss Barber, you second that? [2:44:27, 2:44:30]: I'll second that there's no relations. [2:44:30, 2:44:32]: Okay. [2:44:32, 2:44:36]: All right. Record. Okay. All f all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [2:44:38, 2:44:40]: Okay. Zanasi says thank you very much. [2:44:41, 2:44:42]: Um [2:44:42, 2:45:02]: She's a distinguished veteran, brother. Well, fantastic. I didn't know that, but fantastic. Council consideration, council consideration to appoint members of the Main Street Advisory Board. Once again, this was presented by Miss Braggs and uh didn't know whether or not we want to go to ZECO session for this. I believe all the members that are are up for reappointment. [2:45:02, 2:45:10]: or all individuals that are currently on the main street advisory board. So council, what is your desire? You want to [2:45:10, 2:45:15]: Go wanna go to second session for this or we wanna well I tell you what let Ms uh Mr. Thomas go ahead please. [2:45:16, 2:45:29]: Mayor Ford, I I move to accept um all nominees for reconsideration. I don't think there's anyone outside. I think all board members are asking to return. [2:45:29, 2:45:32]: Uh and I move to uh to accept. [2:45:32, 2:45:39]: Second. Thank you very much. And Miss Bragg, did you have anything you want to add at this point? [2:45:43, 2:45:44]: Are you you somehow you muted? [2:45:48, 2:45:50]: I don't know you I don't know why you're muted, but you're muted. [2:45:51, 2:45:56]: Okay. Anyway. Okay. I am I am going to do that. All favor of the motion, please indicate. [2:45:57, 2:46:17]: All right, so you name the situation. Thank you very much. Thank you, Council. Congratulations, uh, Ms. Bragg. Okay, uh Council consideration to appoint members of the Stockbridge Youth Council, uh, advisory committee. Once again, it's presented by Mr. Washington. And once again, there's several uh members here, didn't know whether or not once again we wanted to do this. [2:46:17, 2:46:19]: And go straight straight into the um [2:46:20, 2:46:22]: Two is that one session for this or not? Yes, ma'am. [2:46:23, 2:46:33]: Do you have the number of applicants? Because I believe there may be more applicants than there are positions where you have to go to executive session. Okay. Well then. [2:46:33, 2:46:35]: Then uh that will cause that then. Um [2:46:37, 2:46:39]: I don't uh I would have to count'em up. [2:46:40, 2:46:43]: I have seven. Do you have seven? Do you have seven? [2:46:43, 2:46:46]: Seven for the youth advisory council, yes. Then you're okay. [2:46:48, 2:46:55]: And if you if you want to support support all of those. Um okay, thank you, Ms. Holiday. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [2:46:55, 2:46:57]: I just motion to approve them all. Oh, is there a second? [2:46:59, 2:47:00]: Is there a second? [2:47:01, 2:47:01]: Um second. [2:47:02, 2:47:05]: Okay, Mr. Alexander seconds that motion needs further discussion. [2:47:06, 2:47:10]: Um, I would prefer that we have an executive session. [2:47:11, 2:47:14]: Oh okay. That's just thoughts, but any further comments? [2:47:15, 2:47:18]: Yes, sir. [2:47:19, 2:47:19]: Um [2:47:20, 2:47:23]: There was a candidate that I favorite. Um [2:47:24, 2:47:28]: I need to go back and look and see if that person is in in that listing. [2:47:29, 2:47:32]: Um and I hate to call the name um [2:47:34, 2:47:34]: Mm. [2:47:36, 2:47:42]: Oh let me clarification if I may. So how how many positions and how many candidates, uh Mrs. Holiday? [2:47:44, 2:47:48]: Seven positions, seven counts or seven candidates. Yes, seven candidates. [2:47:49, 2:47:51]: They currently have eight. [2:47:52, 2:47:55]: Positions open on that board. Okay, there you go. [2:47:57, 2:48:13]: There are a number of there's one, two, three unexpired terms that need to be filled. So some of these positions will be just filling it for one year because Mr. Canton Jones, Jonathan Coley, and Pamela Warner. [2:48:14, 2:48:15]: are vacating their [2:48:16, 2:48:17]: Seats early. [2:48:18, 2:48:19]: And then you have [2:48:19, 2:48:20]: Three. [2:48:21, 2:48:22]: Um [2:48:23, 2:48:28]: vacancies and then two that are asking to be reappointed that are currently on the board. [2:48:28, 2:48:32]: And that is um a part of my concern. So how do you [2:48:32, 2:48:34]: How do you determine which of the [2:48:35, 2:48:38]: will be just filling out a remaining term. [2:48:39, 2:48:42]: How do you determine which of these applicants are new? [2:48:43, 2:48:44]: Um for [2:48:44, 2:48:47]: appointees, how do you determine that? [2:48:48, 2:48:50]: That's what we need to have some discussions about. [2:48:50, 2:48:52]: I suppose you're gonna win. [2:48:52, 2:48:53]: Okay. [2:48:54, 2:48:57]: If that is the case, yes sir, Mr. Blount. [2:48:57, 2:49:02]: So you're saying that we don't have positions for all seven Africans. Is that what you're saying? [2:49:03, 2:49:05]: No, sir, that's not what I'm saying. [2:49:06, 2:49:19]: What the the question that Ms. Barber is asking is how do you determine which candidates will fill the unexpired term, which is only going to be a one-year term, and who will get the two-year term for the [2:49:19, 2:49:39]: Vacancy. You you speak to the chair, but if you got seven seven people that want to volunteer on the youth council right now, and you got seven positions open, I think we should give them the chair to respect that we're giving Main Street chair, uh uh the uh DDA chair, and let them decide, let them go. But if the seven can get [2:49:39, 2:49:48]: get in. These are volunteers. I say vote them all in and let the chair determine what she wanna do with them. It's not whether or not to appoint all seven. [2:49:49, 2:49:51]: I support appointing all seven. [2:49:51, 2:49:54]: But how does this council determine? [2:49:54, 2:49:55]: Which of the seven? [2:49:56, 2:50:00]: Will be in positions just to feel this one year term. [2:50:01, 2:50:07]: And which of those applicants will be filling the new four-year term or three year? [2:50:07, 2:50:27]: How do you determine that? Those are the conversations I think we need to discuss in executive session. I think that if we're going to determine who's going to be on the council, then this if the seven is going to be on it, that's fine. Let's just say contingent on which term they're going to serve. But if all if we're going to vote on who's going to be on it, if all [2:50:27, 2:50:40]: all seven can make it on. We don't need I don't I don't need to go in an executive session to find out who's gonna serve two year, one year, three year. I think the chair and they should decide how they're gonna work that out. [2:50:40, 2:50:42]: Because the city clerk [2:50:42, 2:50:44]: Has to be or someone. [2:50:44, 2:50:45]: has to give account. [2:50:46, 2:50:47]: For the terms. [2:50:47, 2:50:49]: Of each of those candidates. [2:50:49, 2:51:05]: Mayor, then then then let that happen. But far as the people that uh been able to make it in, Mayor, we got a first and second. Let's go ahead and okay. The motion's been made. Motion's been made, and I believe we have a second, right? Motion's made, Miss Holiday, motion's made and a second, correct? [2:51:06, 2:51:19]: Right, but mayor, may I just put in the record that I would like to confer with the attorney, which we have always done in the past with the previous attorney to determine the terms. Normally we don't have this many vacancies at one time. [2:51:20, 2:51:25]: And uh is usually as one person is coming in, they're replacing. [2:51:25, 2:51:31]: Someone who has vacated a seat. There's happens to be three vacated seats in addition to three. [2:51:32, 2:51:37]: vacancies. So I would like to put it into the record that I would like to confer with attorneys. [2:51:38, 2:51:39]: On the terms. [2:51:40, 2:51:41]: All right. [2:51:42, 2:51:44]: Is that okay with you, Mr. Washington? [2:51:44, 2:51:46]: Yes. Thank you. [2:51:47, 2:51:57]: All right. The mo the motion's been made. You've already talked a few times. The motion's been made. It's been seconded. All in favor of motion, please indicate. [2:51:59, 2:52:00]: Callopes. [2:52:03, 2:52:04]: Abstain? Yes. [2:52:06, 2:52:10]: Okay, so I got two four. Miss Barber, you abstain. Is that what you're you're doing? [2:52:11, 2:52:11]: Okay. [2:52:11, 2:52:12]: Is that right? [2:52:13, 2:52:15]: Of abstaining. All right, to Mr. Thomas. [2:52:16, 2:52:17]: Well uh [2:52:18, 2:52:22]: Let me explain my issue. There's someone that I want to recommend. [2:52:22, 2:52:33]: I don't know if that person is in the seven. See that that's out of my issue right there. So it's on I don't know how to so there's seven applicants, but there's eight. [2:52:34, 2:52:41]: There's eight applicants and seven positions. Is that correct? Seven positions. Seven applicants, eight. [2:52:41, 2:52:49]: Vacancies. Mayor, the attorney has a name. Mayor Mayor Pro Tem. I think I have the floor. Thank you. You do, sir. Go ahead, please. [2:52:50, 2:52:50]: Okay. [2:52:50, 2:52:52]: There are [2:52:53, 2:52:55]: Seven applicants. [2:52:55, 2:53:04]: And they are a position. Yes. So with that, then with that understanding, the candidate that I wanted to recommend would automatically get in. [2:53:05, 2:53:12]: I I suppose if that person's on that list, if they're going there. So if that is the case, then I I I vote uh in the affirmative. [2:53:13, 2:53:28]: All right, so that 301. 301 is that it passes. 301. That's right. Okay. Uh let's see here. Uh council consideration uh to approve the community development department code enforcement uh [2:53:29, 2:53:30]: Fees. [2:53:31, 2:53:32]: Miss Johnson, please. [2:53:34, 2:53:41]: Good evening, Mayor and Council members. So um what I'm requesting of you today is um [2:53:41, 2:53:43]: The approval of [2:53:43, 2:53:47]: The code enforcement. I don't know if you guys can see my screen. [2:53:47, 2:53:51]: Um is the code enforcement fee schedule. [2:53:52, 2:53:57]: All of my other divisions throughout the the county with their violations for you know not [2:53:58, 2:53:58]: Um [2:53:59, 2:54:16]: obtaining a permit in time or before work begins, things like that, those are handled. We have those fee schedules. And I do anticipate bringing those to you all as an updated fee schedule. But code enforcement, who we have the most violations for. [2:54:16, 2:54:22]: did not have a current fee schedule. So I'm bringing this before you now for you get all to um [2:54:23, 2:54:24]: To review [2:54:24, 2:54:44]: and to approve so that we can get this in place um either immediately or the first of the year. Our our goal is to get these out to a lot of the business owners and residents over the next you know week, two weeks so that they can be made aware upfront because we're gonna give people their notice of violation. [2:54:44, 2:54:52]: And give them a certain time frame to come into compliance with the code. And then we'll go start from the first offense, second offense, and so on. [2:54:54, 2:54:58]: Okay, great. Fantastic. Uh council, any questions for Ms. Johnson on his fee schedule? [2:55:00, 2:55:06]: Uh Mayor Mayor Ford. Go ahead, Mr. Thomas. Um Mrs. Johnson, thank you. [2:55:06, 2:55:10]: I I guess the only question I have is is about uh enforcement. [2:55:11, 2:55:12]: Um [2:55:12, 2:55:14]: So they're cited. [2:55:15, 2:55:17]: I guess they're giving warnings. [2:55:18, 2:55:20]: They're cited, that comes to court. [2:55:22, 2:55:23]: If if they don't come to court. [2:55:24, 2:55:25]: The what happens? [2:55:26, 2:55:31]: So what typically happens is from from beginning from start to finish is [2:55:31, 2:55:47]: Um, if there is a perceived violation by one of my code officers, they will issue a notice to comply or notice a violation so that the applicant, the resident, business owner has a certain number of days to come into compliance with the code. [2:55:47, 2:55:51]: If they do not come into compliance with the code, that officer is scheduled to come back. [2:55:52, 2:55:55]: within after that time frame and they will issue a citation. [2:55:56, 2:55:58]: The citation will be that first offense. [2:55:59, 2:56:03]: Um and of course once a violation is a citation is issued. [2:56:03, 2:56:14]: those folks immediately get placed on, you know, the upcoming docket. We haven't had court in several months, but the first meeting I think we have is in April of 2022. [2:56:15, 2:56:19]: If we continue to see these offenses happening with these same [2:56:20, 2:56:22]: business owners or residents. [2:56:23, 2:56:24]: We will you know [2:56:24, 2:56:27]: They'll be hit with another fee. [2:56:27, 2:56:40]: to pay. And the I the idea behind this is to keep habitual violators to a minimum because we are having that problem now on multiple occasions throughout the city. [2:56:43, 2:56:51]: Okay. Yeah, Mr. Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. Yeah, I'm looking at this list. The fine for overgrown grass is too low. [2:56:51, 2:56:52]: Okay, fifty dollars. [2:56:53, 2:56:54]: I mean [2:56:54, 2:56:55]: Yeah. [2:56:55, 2:57:02]: I just might as well not cut it. It's gonna cost me fifty dollars to get somebody to cut it. I'm gonna find gonna be what it's gonna cost to cut it. [2:57:02, 2:57:13]: So me, I might as well not cut it. They ain't gonna find me for fifty dollars anyway. That that's how much it's gonna cost to get it cut. So why is the fine for overgrown grass so low when we're trying to [2:57:14, 2:57:17]: uh emphasize that uh in our area. [2:57:17, 2:57:37]: Well, part of our due diligence and best practices is to make sure that we pull fees that are comparable around the region. And these are comparable to the region. Um, of course, you know, the council has the authority to say, hey, let's raise this, let's say 75 for the first offense, 100 for the second, um, whatever your place. [2:57:37, 2:57:47]: pleasure is, but all of these um violation fees have been based on what is typically handled throughout the region of the Atlanta region. [2:57:48, 2:57:54]: Okay. And where's the fine for l litter on their parking lot or their business? Where's that at? [2:57:55, 2:57:56]: Okay. [2:57:56, 2:57:58]: So we have um [2:58:00, 2:58:08]: Commercial vehicles, onsite parking, outside storage. Outside storage is also considered, you know, looking at illegal dumping. [2:58:09, 2:58:13]: things like that. So we have them kind of on each front and our code specific and [2:58:14, 2:58:22]: what the violation entails. So outdoor storage is considered if you have, you know, trash, rubbish, [2:58:23, 2:58:27]: And then we have the um international property maintenance code. [2:58:27, 2:58:29]: Іщу слайк санітачін. [2:58:29, 2:58:35]: when people have evictions and property items are being put out on the curb. [2:58:35, 2:58:40]: those are things we're quickly working with public works and our um [2:58:41, 2:58:43]: our sanitation company to get those removed. [2:58:44, 2:58:48]: So we we've tried to cover everything we possibly can as far as um [2:58:49, 2:58:51]: our all our code violations. [2:58:51, 2:58:53]: in this co in this fee schedule. [2:58:54, 2:58:55]: Well, when I go to building A. [2:58:56, 2:58:58]: Which is a gas station, which I won't name. [2:58:59, 2:59:05]: There's trash all over the parking lot. I don't see that covered here. I wanna uh is there any way to put a specific [2:59:05, 2:59:09]: Note in there about parking lots and commercial. [2:59:09, 2:59:13]: uh buildings they need to go outside and pick up the trash on a regular basis. [2:59:14, 2:59:19]: If you're a fast food restaurant and you got litter and bags and fries all over the ground. [2:59:19, 2:59:20]: Where is that at? [2:59:21, 2:59:29]: I I see a lot of mismatch, but can it can one be put in specifically for litter on a parking lot? [2:59:29, 2:59:30]: Sure, we can add that. [2:59:31, 2:59:32]: That's not a problem. [2:59:33, 2:59:37]: Okay, I would like to see that uh added where litter is added. [2:59:38, 2:59:41]: Uh, to the parking lot on any commercial business. [2:59:41, 2:59:43]: Or in the city. [2:59:43, 2:59:49]: Uh a stop with so do we have to make a motion on that or what? I would I'd just like to hear from the rest of the [2:59:49, 2:59:51]: Rest of y'all uh rest of this [2:59:52, 2:59:55]: the councils uh as well as far as that's concerned. [2:59:55, 3:00:02]: Yeah, I would think we need some type of motion, some type of approval for the a majority, at least a m simple majority council. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [3:00:02, 3:00:07]: Mayor, I'm in totally one hundred percent agreement with that, but I would uh I would would that we would [3:00:08, 3:00:15]: That the motion would be in a way that it covers. Uh, I just called uh Mr. Aaron just last week. [3:00:16, 3:00:24]: Um, there's a driveway that you go into, and there's this big hole. It's on private property, but there's a big hole that you can't miss going in it. [3:00:25, 3:00:32]: And people are actually tearing their cars up. So if it's some type of language that we can put in that these businesses have to up these owners. [3:00:32, 3:00:52]: Have to keep upkeep of their property, that it doesn't become a nuisance to the community nor become a hazard to the uh to uh uh citizens. Uh however we formulate that, I would like that verbiage to be that encompasses all of this pertaining to their parking lots. When we talk about these parking lots that are, that are that are [3:00:52, 3:00:53]: Yeah. [3:00:53, 3:01:02]: That that are holes are everywhere in them, that that they're not upkeeping, they're trashed up. Whatever we need to do to hold these owners accountable for. [3:01:02, 3:01:13]: the upkeep of their properties and the and and the uh beautification of their properties, if there's a way that we can do that legally, I like whatever motion we make, it encompasses everything. [3:01:14, 3:01:22]: Councilman, um Blount, if I may, so we have uh nuisances listed here and there's a whole range of nuisances in the code. [3:01:23, 3:01:26]: Um, that would cover what you're speaking of and also unsafe conditions. [3:01:27, 3:01:35]: cover that as well. I think um Chief Trammer wanted to to chime in as well on this as well. Yeah, he he had his hand up. Go ahead, Chief. [3:01:35, 3:01:45]: Yes, I just wanted to point out that within the municipal codes of Georgia, um, Title Eleven under offenses, there's a specific chapter eleven point six that addresses littering in the city. [3:01:45, 3:01:51]: And all the things that were mentioned by Mayor Pro Tem are addressed within this ordinance that's already listed. [3:01:51, 3:01:56]: in the city code and the minimum fine already established is two hundred dollars for the first offense. [3:01:57, 3:01:59]: and up to a thousand dollars for the second offense. [3:02:00, 3:02:05]: Well, my m um Ms. Alexander, if you don't mind me asking this question, uh [3:02:06, 3:02:15]: Then, if it's already in there, what is the oversight? Then I guess we need to have to have oversight because we see the same situation for months. [3:02:15, 3:02:18]: Then it's not the owners, it's us not enforcing it. [3:02:20, 3:02:37]: That that's my concern now then. And so with this schedule, whatever we need to say and enforce, and and I guess that's an internal thing now, because if this is what we see on a continual basis, then enforcement is not there. That hole has been there quite a while. And if any of you go by there on 138 over by the uh [3:02:37, 3:02:46]: uh um over by the um uh animal hospital. There's this big hole there and I I took I took pictures and saw to Dacious uh Mr. Aaron. [3:02:47, 3:03:07]: It's a it's a nuisance and a hazard to the community. So if that's been there, then I guess now we got to look at enforcement. We have to look at what on our end, how do we we need to do what we need to do to have these business owners to enforce picking up this trash or enforce keeping their their parking lots like they should be, then it's not them. Then it's you're telling us it's up. [3:03:07, 3:03:07]: [10988.5, 10995.9]: I certainly support putting both of those in there and having a fee schedule for the parking lot maintenance described by Mr. Blount. [3:03:16, 3:03:25]: And also a separate one for track a line item that is specifically addressed trash on the parking lot and a s and uh and a fine on that and then another [3:03:26, 3:03:35]: category that the deals with maintenance on the parking lot and paving with diff with fines on that one. So that they have this in front of them when they're out there. [3:03:35, 3:03:38]: uh looking for these particular violations. [3:03:39, 3:03:41]: Okay, Miss Barber, you have your hand up. [3:03:42, 3:03:55]: I wanted to ask Ms. Johnson, um so fine for uh storage pods for residents who might just be doing some home renovations. Is that listed here as well? [3:04:00, 3:04:16]: It's not specifically stated outright, but it will be considered under nuisance as well. Um, because we I believe there's a time limit on how long those can stay on a property. Uh, because remember they're typically in a driveway or some sometimes they've been spotted on the street. [3:04:16, 3:04:21]: Which of course is completely outside of um our co-regulations. [3:04:21, 3:04:25]: Um as it pertains to those two additional line items. [3:04:26, 3:04:39]: uh the litter and rubbish and commercial properties and then property lot or parking lot maintenance. That's something we can easily add. Chief and I will will um collaborate on that and ensure that the proper fees are installed. [3:04:41, 3:04:42]: All right. [3:04:42, 3:04:45]: So um yeah, okay, Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please, sir. [3:04:45, 3:04:57]: Yeah, I I just wanted to um echo and concur with the with the litter uh issue. Now I I wanted to ask this question of Mrs. Johnson. Uh uh what I see oftentimes. [3:04:58, 3:05:04]: especially in a strip mall, you have a a number of businesses, but there's trash everywhere. So do you [3:05:05, 3:05:07]: identify who actually owned [3:05:08, 3:05:14]: Um um the the property uh as opposed to the individual tenant. Is is that the process? [3:05:15, 3:05:19]: Yes, we notify the tenant, but our conversation about [3:05:20, 3:05:21]: compliances with the property owner. [3:05:22, 3:05:27]: Okay. Now I know we're in the process of uh approving our UDC. [3:05:27, 3:05:31]: Uh I'm now I'm going to parking on the street and I know um [3:05:32, 3:05:42]: the no parking signs, the no litter signs. Uh and I know public works have sort of dealt with the signs, but uh is any of this [3:05:42, 3:05:46]: Two two questions. Is any of this in your uh area? [3:05:46, 3:05:48]: My my other question is [3:05:49, 3:05:59]: um the codes of the codes up today because I was gonna you mentioned the codes because I because I was gonna ask you a little bit more about uh nuisance and abatement. [3:05:59, 3:06:04]: And so I I just didn't know how all of this uh works together. [3:06:05, 3:06:06]: Can you speak to any of that? [3:06:07, 3:06:08]: Absolutely. So [3:06:09, 3:06:14]: Um as it pertains to parking and and the the woes that I think residents have had. [3:06:14, 3:06:34]: Um, with people parking on the street, the roads not being wide enough for other cars to pass. That is something that myself, Mr. Aaron, and um will be a conversation with our new city manager to address how we need to go about managing that. Um, and and address whether we need to, you know. [3:06:35, 3:06:39]: talk with you guys more about a tow company, things like that. So that is gonna require [3:06:39, 3:06:59]: additional conversation with uh city management before it actually comes to you all. And your second question, um as it pertains to you know these other types of nuisances and abatement, again, those are conversations that we would go through with the city [3:06:59, 3:07:13]: manager as far as procedurally. Of course our codes do need a little brushing up and that is will be the next phase. But this would be the first step in addressing those habitual um [3:07:13, 3:07:22]: Violators. And so we go back, take a look at our code, see what things need to be changed because there's most certainly are some things that we need to tighten up on. [3:07:22, 3:07:25]: And then we'll bring those back to you all for a vote. [3:07:25, 3:07:31]: L last questions if I may. Uh parking in the street and no parking signs. [3:07:31, 3:07:35]: Is there a difference in subdivisions? [3:07:35, 3:07:37]: No parking and [3:07:38, 3:07:41]: um regular uh street [3:07:41, 3:07:42]: No park in it. [3:07:44, 3:07:47]: Um there is a we do have a a [3:07:48, 3:07:57]: Interestingly enough, we do have an ordinance that speaks specifically specifically to parking permits on the street, which is [3:07:58, 3:07:59]: very um [3:08:00, 3:08:08]: Um at at best very difficult to manage for uh staff. I mean, they have 3 AM cutoffs and [3:08:08, 3:08:14]: it just gets really, you know, interesting. But again, the that section, other sections like it. [3:08:14, 3:08:18]: would be something we would look at on a best practices measure. [3:08:18, 3:08:23]: and bring those back to city management and then to you all for for a vote. [3:08:24, 3:08:26]: Okay,'cause I know there um [3:08:26, 3:08:29]: Presently there are no parking sands. [3:08:29, 3:08:45]: uh on on several street not subdivision but just just regular streets and and i guess i'm i'm sort of going to the enforcement part of it and i guess maybe the chief can speak to that or i don't want to tie this meeting up but i i think this uh [3:08:45, 3:08:58]: All of this is something that we have to try to continue to improve upon. So I'm just going to stop there and I guess we will continue uh these kind of uh discussion because as we see now in this discussion. [3:08:58, 3:09:18]: There's a lot that we need to be about improving upon. But that's always been one of my issues and my concerns, uh parking on the street. And they and they park they park on the street where there's a sign that says no parking on the street. So they pretty much just ignore that. But I know in the past it was all about enforcement. [3:09:18, 3:09:18]: So [3:09:19, 3:09:22]: Maybe uh you know we can have this discussion with the chief at another time. [3:09:23, 3:09:27]: Absolutely. And and the and the city manager as well to address. [3:09:28, 3:09:42]: how we can enforce it, which is gonna be towing cars who do not adhere to the code. And until we get that nailed down, um, the enforcement for that uh would would not quite be in place, but we are working towards that and will with the new city manager. [3:09:44, 3:10:04]: Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. May Mayor, one last thing. Uh well, first of all, before I get to that, uh Ms. Johnson, could you give this council a breakdown of the definition? Because I'm as we look at some of these titles, they are they do get kind of vague uh when you look at different titles that you have on here. Um so if is is that something [3:10:04, 3:10:23]: that you can give us the breakdown each one of these. So if a if if someone calls us about something that we can look on and say, yeah, this is a violation because we see this and we see that in there. Is there a breakdown of this right here or those violations that that shows us that it's a true violation that you can give this counsel? [3:10:24, 3:10:28]: So if I if I'm if I'm clear on the question. [3:10:28, 3:10:31]: Where does where do these violations fall into the code? [3:10:31, 3:10:34]: Well for for instance you got unsafe [3:10:34, 3:10:50]: Yeah, yeah, you got unsafe, even if you could directly sit the coat when you got unsafe conditions. What does that actually mean? I mean, that's what you have on you see what I'm saying? So what does that actually mean? Unsafe conditions? Because what I just described could have been an unsafe condition, you know, with the whole industry. [3:10:50, 3:11:05]: And and the be and I I put those and that's a great question. Um I put that listing of violations under the International Property Maintenance Code, because those are the violations that are specific under the IMPC, the IPMC. [3:11:05, 3:11:06]: And [3:11:06, 3:11:16]: This is international. This is, you know, covered throughout Georgia. It's adopted by the city. Um, and we have to follow I'd have to go through kind of specifically. [3:11:17, 3:11:24]: Um, to to kind of give you a breakdown of that. But unsafe conditions, one of them would be when you have potholes and parking lots. [3:11:24, 3:11:27]: or, you know, places that can cause some type of um [3:11:28, 3:11:31]: Um, even if even if it's something as small as [3:11:31, 3:11:33]: The hedges on a property. [3:11:33, 3:11:35]: are you know obstructing view [3:11:35, 3:11:36]: To a driver. [3:11:37, 3:11:42]: Um things like that. So it it it it comes in a lot of different forms. [3:11:42, 3:11:48]: But um I can most certainly get you a clear breakdown per the IPMC. [3:11:48, 3:12:00]: Yeah, yeah. And I so we can reference actually our code what what you have. Certainly. Most certainly. Well, and and last the question is is that when we talk about parking, I called um [3:12:01, 3:12:05]: I called um I got in touch with um I I think it was you mayor. [3:12:06, 3:12:10]: Uh it was like sixteen trucks, seventeen trucks parked at uh [3:12:11, 3:12:15]: On Hudson Bridge Road at the Walmart, seventeen trucks, seventeen just out front. [3:12:16, 3:12:19]: And so it's becoming a parking uh haven. [3:12:19, 3:12:23]: uh for truckers. How do we address those type of issues? [3:12:24, 3:12:38]: Well, we since obtaining or getting the complaint um about a week and a half ago, uh my code enforcement officers have been out to both locations, Hudson Bridge and 138, and have tried to set up meetings with management to address this because [3:12:39, 3:12:43]: Yeah, one of two things are happening. Either Walmart is allowing it or the [3:12:43, 3:12:56]: you know, folks who are in the trucks are just parking and just not not, you know, adhering to the the requirements. So we've spoken with them, we've issued them a notice of violation so that they understand. [3:12:56, 3:12:58]: That you have, you know. [3:12:58, 3:13:02]: three days to come into compliance. Now what the problem we have is [3:13:03, 3:13:04]: Um [3:13:04, 3:13:05]: These trucks are parking. [3:13:06, 3:13:10]: Overnight during the times that staff is not in the office. [3:13:10, 3:13:15]: Uh, but we have a regular weekly check-in with those managers. [3:13:16, 3:13:18]: to address that specifically. [3:13:18, 3:13:38]: So I can continue to keep you updated, but they have been issued a notice of violation. Um, I have not received any additional complaints since the last week and a half um at either location, but I've uh tasked my uh staff with making sure we do a regular routine check-in because of course this is obviously [3:13:38, 3:13:39]: [11619.3, 11634.4]: Yeah, Ms. Johnson, but I'm a but but you know that because you don't get a phone call doesn't mean the problem doesn't still exist. And because you contact because you contact uh management and with with Walmart and we get them three days to comply. [3:13:54, 3:13:55]: Um [3:13:56, 3:14:16]: They may have three days to comply with this driver, but it could change every single weekend. Do our code enforcement have any leeway of putting a sticker on these vehicles when they drive through the parking lot? Because there's a big sign, even in Walmart's parking lot, no truck parking. If we have an ordinance against it with the city and they have an ordinance against [3:14:16, 3:14:24]: I'm gonna say they have a um uh something against it pertaining to Walmart. We don't have any kind of stickers or something we can put on these vehicles that they won't come back. [3:14:26, 3:14:29]: Right. Well, I think it it still goes back to enforcement. [3:14:29, 3:14:34]: W even with the stickers, can we the the we have to determine can the city [3:14:34, 3:14:36]: Tow those trucks. [3:14:36, 3:14:48]: if they do not remove their vehicles. Well one of the problem but I'm I'm sorry to cut up but one of the things about stickering putting stickers on vehicles that they're in violation, they have no idea what your powers are to do. [3:14:48, 3:14:59]: They just know they're in violation. And sometimes people would just say, I'm not gonna park up there because I don't wanna be towed, even if we're not even towing. When we let people know that they're in violation. [3:14:59, 3:15:00]: Of something. [3:15:00, 3:15:15]: Then that's when a lot of times they take take advantage and say, I'm not gonna do this because I don't need this on me to have it told or the uh or my company finding out that I gotta stick on you. You see what I'm saying? What are we doing to rectify problem? Cause when you're dealing with Walmarts. [3:15:16, 3:15:19]: Either we got it because they got they got people out there that are [3:15:20, 3:15:23]: That are breaking all the rules of the city of Scott Bridge. [3:15:24, 3:15:26]: All the rules from in uh [3:15:26, 3:15:37]: everywhere from the from the from the street levels to out front everywhere so when are we going to start taking control of the two walmarts to the best of our ability with code enforcement [3:15:38, 3:15:42]: That we got to do more than just talking because we've been talking to Walmarts. [3:15:42, 3:15:44]: Since we since uh [3:15:44, 3:15:46]: Since I've been on council. [3:15:47, 3:15:50]: So when are we gonna start taking control? That's that's my thing. [3:15:50, 3:15:51]: What is that we can do? [3:15:55, 3:16:00]: Well, I mean, this is this is a code enforcement effort that, you know, now that we have the police department [3:16:01, 3:16:06]: on board that gives us the support that we need when we go out on the field. [3:16:07, 3:16:15]: to to realize that, you know, we are n we're serious and you know they don't take us take us for granted. [3:16:15, 3:16:19]: And not adhere. Part of this process with the [3:16:19, 3:16:20]: Um [3:16:20, 3:16:22]: With the citations. [3:16:22, 3:16:25]: is so that we can begin that process. [3:16:25, 3:16:32]: Because we hope that in issuing a citation, people say, Oh no, I've got to pay two hundred, three hundred dollars. [3:16:32, 3:16:34]: for you know [3:16:34, 3:16:40]: being overnight overnight parked in a commercial lot, which is against the code. [3:16:40, 3:16:46]: Calling people working on Sundays? Do they work on Sunday? Yes, they do. Okay, gotcha. They work seven days a week. [3:16:46, 3:17:01]: Gotcha. So um and again, you know, working with the police department is part of this approach to get a stronger arm when my staff is going out there issuing the citations to businesses who are just not adhering to the code. [3:17:03, 3:17:04]: Mr. Alexander, go ahead, please. [3:17:04, 3:17:05]: Thank you. [3:17:06, 3:17:07]: Miss Miss uh [3:17:08, 3:17:11]: Johnson, are we practicing zero tolerance at this point? [3:17:16, 3:17:18]: You're muted, Miss Johnson. [3:17:18, 3:17:23]: Well what we're doing is we're going out. Um we have a a [3:17:23, 3:17:25]: Um S O P [3:17:25, 3:17:30]: standard operating procedures for each of these violations and the timeframe. [3:17:31, 3:17:33]: In which folks have to come into compliance. [3:17:34, 3:17:37]: What we have been missing has been this particular [3:17:37, 3:17:38]: Code. [3:17:38, 3:17:41]: Because even if we cite them, that means they just have to come to court. [3:17:41, 3:17:45]: If there's no dollar amount tied to their violation. [3:17:45, 3:17:48]: they're going to take what we're doing for granted. [3:17:48, 3:17:52]: And they have. And not not everyone. People do come into compliance and [3:17:52, 3:17:55]: do what they're supposed to do, but some don't. [3:17:56, 3:18:04]: And in this particular case, this is one of the tools to help move us to that zero tolerance process. [3:18:04, 3:18:06]: And this is the first step in doing so. [3:18:07, 3:18:10]: Okay, next, will you bring the code when you bring that um [3:18:11, 3:18:15]: uh insert back up with the fine and the ski f uh fee schedule on it. [3:18:16, 3:18:18]: So we it's now it's kind of [3:18:19, 3:18:21]: Mr. Mike, is it just my screen? [3:18:22, 3:18:24]: I think it might be just my screen. [3:18:24, 3:18:25]: Okay. [3:18:26, 3:18:29]: So I made it a little bit larger. There we go. [3:18:35, 3:18:37]: Okay. [3:18:42, 3:18:44]: What is all this thing? [3:18:48, 3:18:50]: Well, okay. [3:18:50, 3:18:53]: Let's do let me see uh [3:18:53, 3:18:57]: Let's uh for some reason come back to me. Come back to me. [3:18:57, 3:19:15]: Okay, let me mention this. There's a couple of different suggestions that were added. I'm kind of wondering whether or not we wanna uh we wanna vote on this this uh this evening in reference to the those additional items being added or whether or not you want those items added and then and then this entire list comes back. [3:19:15, 3:19:25]: Uh I'm not sure what uh what Mayor Pro Tem wants to get clarified here. Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. Well uh Mayor, I I was going to move to [3:19:25, 3:19:28]: approved with the modifications. [3:19:28, 3:19:32]: Um now if Mrs. Johnson would like to [3:19:32, 3:19:33]: Um [3:19:34, 3:19:41]: modifier uh her list and I'm okay with that as well, but I was going to motion to accept. [3:19:41, 3:19:45]: Uh with the modification that has been expressed. [3:19:47, 3:19:50]: So I don't know if if if Mr. Johnson wanted to um [3:19:51, 3:20:01]: just just modify and bring it back, but I'm okay with making a motion to to approve with those modification that has been expressed. I'm okay with approving it tonight myself, Mayor. [3:20:01, 3:20:04]: Okay, so Mr. Thomas made a motion. Ms. Barber second that. [3:20:05, 3:20:11]: Mayor. Yes, ma'am. We had a motion by Mayor Proteam Alexander. Originally? [3:20:11, 3:20:25]: Originally for the commercial to add the parking lot litter to the fee schedule and also to add the parking lot maintenance and paving. That's what I think that's what that's what we're talking about. That was seconded. [3:20:25, 3:20:32]: No, it was not seconded, but uh may approach a minute. Well, those are the modifications, aren't they? Right. Those are the modifications we're referring to. [3:20:33, 3:20:40]: That's what that's that covers by that. I think those are what's covered now by Mr. Thomas's motion that was taken by Barber anyway. [3:20:40, 3:20:49]: Yeah, I understand that, but Mayor Proteir made the initial motion, so I just need to know if he's rescinding and allowing their motion to go forward. There was no asset, there's not a second in the motion. [3:20:49, 3:20:53]: Second to Mayor Pro Tem Alexander's motion. [3:20:53, 3:21:06]: Okay. Oh, you now second that motion. Well wait, well wait, well, hold on a second. Now wait. It was already stated, yes. [3:21:07, 3:21:20]: Restated again. So restated again. Mayor Pro Cameron, you made a motion for the when you were speaking about the commercial portion to add for the parking lot later to be added to that fee schedule and also [3:21:20, 3:21:30]: To add the parking lot maintenance and paving that Councilman Blount spoke about, to add that to the peace schedule. There was not a second, but that is what it was motioned. [3:21:30, 3:21:36]: Okay, and this is what I want to do. Thank you so much. Now I got my screen. I had lost contact for a minute. Something went wrong. [3:21:36, 3:21:39]: What I'd like to do is to add that category. [3:21:39, 3:21:41]: For the litter uh [3:21:41, 3:21:43]: For litter on the parking lot. [3:21:43, 3:21:48]: And the fee schedule would include the first fine being a hundred and twenty five dollars. [3:21:50, 3:21:53]: And the second fine being five hundred dollars. [3:21:55, 3:21:58]: And the third fine being a thousand dollars. [3:21:59, 3:21:59]: I say it. [3:22:02, 3:22:03]: All right. Any further discussion? [3:22:04, 3:22:07]: Okay, on the damage to the parking lot. [3:22:07, 3:22:17]: Well oh hold hold on sir. Hold on sir. We you are you adding now to the motion? You just made a motion to do it. Okay. I'm sorry. We gotta have the fee schedule for the damage to the parking lot too, right? [3:22:18, 3:22:19]: Okay. [3:22:19, 3:22:22]: Right. So damn damage to the parking lot. [3:22:22, 3:22:26]: Uh the initial fee will be two hundred and fifty dollars. [3:22:26, 3:22:30]: The second fee will be seven hundred and fifty dollars. [3:22:31, 3:22:39]: And the third fee would be fifteen hundred dollars. It needs to escalate a lot because you know if it's not a significant amount on the first one, why would I fix it? [3:22:40, 3:22:43]: If it's less than a hundred dollars, I might as well leave the hole out there. [3:22:43, 3:22:44]: So [3:22:44, 3:22:45]: That's kind of where we are. [3:22:46, 3:22:48]: Uh on that one as well. And then [3:22:48, 3:22:51]: The third fee schedule on the overgrown grass. [3:22:51, 3:22:55]: We'll start with a hundred and twenty-five dollars on the first. [3:22:56, 3:22:58]: Uh, violation for the overgrown grass. [3:22:58, 3:23:01]: The second violation would be five hundred dollars. [3:23:02, 3:23:07]: And the third violation for overgrown grass would be one thousand dollars. [3:23:09, 3:23:15]: Okay, so now that's the full motion. That's the full motion. Okay. Miss Barber, you mo you seconding that motion now? [3:23:15, 3:23:16]: Yes. [3:23:16, 3:23:28]: Okay. Now uh I want to make sure uh Mr. Blount standby for a second. I want to make sure that's Ms. Holliday has has it all accurate now. I I do. Okay. All right, Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [3:23:29, 3:23:30]: Um [3:23:32, 3:23:36]: Miss Johnson, I mean I'm I we definitely want things to [3:23:37, 3:23:39]: be done by these property uh owners. [3:23:40, 3:23:51]: Um and I don't know where the amounts come from. What are we comparing the amounts to other than you s uh other than them being stated? What what amounts of were you thinking, Ms. Johnson? Because I [3:23:51, 3:23:52]: I mean that's [3:23:53, 3:23:58]: And then that's that that third I'm I'm trying to figure out what where did these amounts come from. [3:23:58, 3:24:18]: Let me tell you where the amounts came from. If I if if I don't you don't if I don't cut my grass and the fee is fifty dollars, I'm with my might as well not cut my grass because it's gonna cost me more than fifty dollars. If it's not gonna cost me more than fifty dollars, I'm not gonna cut it anyway. It's only gonna cost me fifty dollars. Now to cut your grass is gonna cost more than that. [3:24:18, 3:24:27]: at for a commercial location, maybe$75 to$100. So the fine need to be more significant than the actual cost of the cutting of the grass. [3:24:27, 3:24:47]: Now the second fine violation of$500 is punitive because we warned you numerous times in the past. You haven't taken advantage of it. This time we're hitting you hard in the pocketbook at$500 to say never again. You will never do this again. You do it again, a thousand dollars. [3:24:47, 3:24:55]: Is is not going that those mounts send a clear message each time they're escalating. Because if I chose you fifty dollars. [3:24:56, 3:25:14]: What good does it do? I'll pay the fifty dollars and not cut the grass each time. I'm not gonna I'm I'm okay with that. The second time is$125. That's cheaper than costing me to cut the grass. Well, let me let me ask the attorneys when it comes to state law. [3:25:15, 3:25:17]: Could these fees be deemed necessive? [3:25:20, 3:25:21]: need to weigh in with Desmond Court on that. [3:25:22, 3:25:26]: because these are be municipal these will be municipal fines, but generally there's gonna be some latitude. [3:25:27, 3:25:32]: But I wouldn't want to speak on what he would feel comfortable with finds without talking to him. He would be the person enforced. [3:25:33, 3:25:39]: I I I just don't want us to get into excessive fines in the city of Stockbridge because [3:25:40, 3:25:48]: If if if if I'm charged and I'm just wanting to store a number, if I'm charged fifty dollars and the next time I'm charged two hundred, I don't want to pay two hundred again. [3:25:49, 3:25:53]: And I just want to make sure that the pertaining to state law that we're not [3:25:53, 3:26:06]: compared to state law, we're not getting to get into getting into excessive fines here with that because I believe that there should be some type of fine uh put in there. But it this sounds a little uh [3:26:06, 3:26:13]: I think maybe it might be a good idea just to put up two and then at that point the judge sitting on the bench can decide what the amount is that will be given. [3:26:15, 3:26:16]: Right. [3:26:16, 3:26:18]: I do have a question if I may. [3:26:18, 3:26:21]: I think it's the thousand dollar fine the one that kind of got me. [3:26:21, 3:26:23]: The third violation [3:26:25, 3:26:30]: May I ask a question? Uh Chief has his hand up. Yeah, stand stand by, McBarn Pro Town. [3:26:30, 3:26:33]: Um actually stand by Chief. Go ahead, Miss Johnson. [3:26:34, 3:26:35]: So I guess [3:26:36, 3:26:41]: Do we want to separate the two? Separate residential overgrown. [3:26:41, 3:26:44]: grasp was what I'm I think I'm hearing Cosm Wild say. [3:26:45, 3:26:48]: And make a s a separation between the residential [3:26:48, 3:26:54]: R residents, the property owners versus commercial property owners and making a distinction between those fees. [3:26:54, 3:27:02]: My motion refers to commercial businesses. That's what I my initial motion referenced commercial businesses. [3:27:02, 3:27:03]: Okay. [3:27:05, 3:27:07]: All right, then Chief Tramer, go ahead, please. [3:27:10, 3:27:13]: Thank you. And uh forgive me. Uh no this is really not um [3:27:14, 3:27:17]: It it's it's not my agenda item, but I did want to point out [3:27:18, 3:27:21]: Uh just for everybody's awareness that the current city ordinance on litter. [3:27:21, 3:27:29]: uh does address both public and private property. And there's already a minimum fine of$200 as established in the current city charter. [3:27:29, 3:27:31]: So I just wanted to um [3:27:32, 3:27:38]: Put that out there because I know Mayor Pro Tem that you had just mentioned the minimum fine of a hundred and twenty-five dollars, if I believe [3:27:38, 3:27:43]: Um I wrote that down correctly. And so if that's the case, would the city charter need to be amended? [3:27:44, 3:27:47]: based on the motion that Mayor Pro Tem has made. [3:27:48, 3:27:50]: Well, I I did that because [3:27:50, 3:27:55]: The the fine on this schedule that was given to us is fifty dollars. So all of those fees are [3:27:56, 3:28:01]: in error if that is the case. So certainly I could support the if the charter calls for two hundred minimum. [3:28:02, 3:28:06]: I could I all I'll amend my motion to make sure the initial find [3:28:06, 3:28:12]: on all of these, the litter on the parking, the damage to the parking lot and the overgrown grass, the minimum fine. [3:28:12, 3:28:18]: will start at two hundred dollars as referenced in the city charter. Certainly I support a higher fine. [3:28:20, 3:28:24]: Okay. Miss Johnson, do you have any comment on on that at all since you've first brought this forward? [3:28:26, 3:28:30]: Um this was based on residential um areas, commercial we [3:28:31, 3:28:34]: Um can look at differently, but it whatever is the pleasure of the council. [3:28:36, 3:28:47]: Okay. Okay, so on that note, Mayor Potem, you you now've changed the figures and right. This the figure stated by the chief was that the minimum fine on the commercial. [3:28:47, 3:28:51]: was two hundred dollars. So I wanna make sure that we're in line with the charter. [3:28:51, 3:28:53]: So all of those initial fees. [3:28:54, 3:28:55]: would be two hundred dollar minimum. [3:28:56, 3:28:57]: Uh as a referred to. [3:28:57, 3:29:01]: by uh the city charter to be in compliance with the law. [3:29:03, 3:29:06]: Okay. And and not I can display that if you'd like. [3:29:07, 3:29:18]: I I don't know if that's necessarily right yet, Chief. Stand by. I'm sorry, Vanessa. I see you Mr. Blount. Vanessa, go ahead, please. I was just asking, and the second and the third remain the same. Yes. Thank you. [3:29:18, 3:29:24]: Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. And and one of the things we have to remember here with the two hundred dollar fine. [3:29:25, 3:29:36]: That fine can be implemented per day, every day until the until it's corrected. So if it goes up to$1,000, that's because it hasn't been corrected. [3:29:37, 3:29:44]: See, and then we're still in line with the charter because we're not charging a thousand dollars. But if it's not corrected, it could go up to a thousand dollars. [3:29:46, 3:29:59]: Yeah. I I'm I'm comfortable with my motion at this point and it's time to move on. I call for the vote. Okay, stand by. So you motion that you you changed the motion. So is there a second to that particular motion? Now it's been changed. What is the motion? [3:30:00, 3:30:12]: The motion calls for a fee schedule for litter on the parking lot, damage on the parking lot, and overgrown grass on the parking lot. The initial fines for all of those. [3:30:12, 3:30:17]: uh offenses called for a minimum fine of two hundred dollars for each category. [3:30:18, 3:30:28]: Uh litter on the parking lot will be two hundred dollars first fine, five hundred dollars second fine, a thousand dollars third fine. Damage to the parking lot initially. [3:30:28, 3:30:32]: will still be two hundred and fifty dollars because it's higher than the minimum. [3:30:32, 3:30:34]: Seven hundred and fifty dollars on a second. [3:30:35, 3:30:36]: Fifteen hundred dollars on the third. [3:30:37, 3:30:39]: The overgrown grass will now be [3:30:39, 3:30:44]: two hundred dollars on the first, five hundred dollars on the second, and a thousand dollars on the third. [3:30:46, 3:31:02]: Um for me, Mayor, I I can only go with in compliance with the charter on that. I'm I'm I'm for fires. If it's two hundred dollars every day up to a thousand, whatever, but I I can't go with a fee schedule that we haven't talked about with with uh [3:31:02, 3:31:22]: uh per pertaining to what this the the state is actually doing and and and with miss johnson and and with I guess Chief Tramer has some kind of um uh um knowledge of this in in this area. I I I think before I agree to throwing out numbers, which I want that enforcement, but I gotta just make sure our numbers are correct and we talk to the proper people that [3:31:22, 3:31:42]: has vetted this enough that that we're not putting something on our police department or code enforcement that is uh excessive. And uh and because you know when you when you put something excessive on someone, you're gonna get an excessive reaction. So for me, I would like them to set those parameters rather than [3:31:42, 3:31:55]: than we set them because to me it could so it sound like it could be a bit excessive pertaining to what we already have in our charter. And I I couldn't agree to that. I wouldn't want to put that on code enforcement nor on the uh police department. [3:31:56, 3:32:02]: I think what my follow-up question, Ms. Johnson, this this list that you have verified does not [3:32:02, 3:32:06]: uh comport with a daily fine. This is just a fine, is that correct? [3:32:07, 3:32:08]: Okay. [3:32:09, 3:32:10]: That's correct. [3:32:10, 3:32:30]: Right. So we're not we're talking apples and apples and oranges and oranges. We're not talking about finding somebody every day. We're talking about a one-time fine because they have time in the provision on the citation to correct it. So it's not a daily fine. So this is where we are if we want to send a strong message that we want our [3:32:30, 3:32:50]: City cleaned up. We got to get serious about this. And we got to hit these businesses who are repeatedly not following and compliant. We know who they are because we see them all the time. And again, we're hitting with what's in the charter right now that's not being enforced. It's already in the charter the$200. The council is giving a clear [3:32:50, 3:32:52]: direct of the code enforcement. [3:32:52, 3:32:53]: Go out there. [3:32:53, 3:32:57]: And may enforce this now. That's what this is doing. [3:32:57, 3:33:01]: Well, Mayor, if you will. Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. [3:33:01, 3:33:07]: You know, we can talk about fines and don't it doesn't matter if it's five thousand dollars. [3:33:07, 3:33:18]: The main thing we need to look at just with l is we just got about two or three weeks ago about this uh inundated area with trash behind a certain area uh off one thirty. [3:33:19, 3:33:29]: One of the things the city, first you have to fix one thing and you implement another. And I think the one thing we got to implement and give directives to is enforcement. [3:33:29, 3:33:39]: When we say that we're not gonna have those uh uh uh uh uh uh bins toward the street and we still send them toward the street, we that's an enforcement issue. [3:33:39, 3:33:59]: So I think that once we deal with the enforcement issues and what we already have on the books, then if it doesn't correct it, then we can implement. I don't believe in putting more making people spend more when enforcement itself has not been put in place. Even with those 17 trucks, I go up there this Saturday or this Sunday and it's 17. [3:33:59, 3:34:01]: seventeen troops still there. [3:34:01, 3:34:21]: What is the enforcement for that? So we have to come up with what how can we enforce this first? How do we uh uh oversee that enforcement and implement it? And then we see how do we put fines in place? But if we're not enforcing these things and making sure it's happening, a fine is not gonna do it. It's only gonna [3:34:21, 3:34:30]: To put a person in a more of a detriment situation, but we I think we need to enforce this stuff first. It starts there, it starts with enforcement. [3:34:30, 3:34:36]: I appreciate it. The mo the the revised motion has been made. I think that's we we still need a second on that. [3:34:38, 3:34:39]: I do have a question. [3:34:39, 3:34:41]: Okay, what's your question, please? [3:34:41, 3:34:42]: Has the attorneys [3:34:43, 3:34:45]: kind of validated um [3:34:46, 3:34:48]: What Chief Tramer? [3:34:48, 3:34:50]: referred to in the charter. [3:34:51, 3:35:02]: I just for me I wanted to kind of keep them separate. Our fee schedule for residential and a separate fee schedule for commercial. However, [3:35:02, 3:35:05]: Chief Tramer has pointed out in the charter. [3:35:05, 3:35:06]: Um about the minimum. [3:35:07, 3:35:07]: Um [3:35:08, 3:35:09]: Fine amount. [3:35:09, 3:35:13]: I just want that verified or validated by the attorneys. [3:35:13, 3:35:14]: Have they? [3:35:15, 3:35:16]: been consulted with this. [3:35:17, 3:35:18]: What are listening? [3:35:18, 3:35:23]: I can council member, I can I'm happy to look now. Yeah, all this is happening in real time. [3:35:24, 3:35:27]: Okay, we were not consulted about additional problems and fees. [3:35:28, 3:35:29]: Okay. [3:35:30, 3:35:35]: Uh just for your reference, uh Jeremy and Quentin, it's uh chapter eleven. [3:35:36, 3:35:42]: It's uh eleven point one six point zero seven and violations, and that's speaking specifically. [3:35:42, 3:35:47]: to littering. I'm not sure if it addresses the new the the nuisances. [3:35:48, 3:35:52]: Uh the nuisances I think that Mayor Pro Tem was referring to regarding the overgrown grass. [3:35:53, 3:35:55]: Um it it says that [3:35:55, 3:35:59]: Fines may be assessed up to a thousand dollars, but it doesn't specify [3:35:59, 3:36:04]: a minimum fine amount for nuisances. They're in two separate uh code section categories. [3:36:07, 3:36:15]: Thank you, Chief Tramer. Um Mayor Ford, I wanted to ask Mayor Pro Tem, can he add to his motion staff with doing [3:36:15, 3:36:16]: Um [3:36:17, 3:36:20]: further research and that would just include the attorneys. [3:36:20, 3:36:25]: uh validating this and I would certainly second this if need be. [3:36:25, 3:36:27]: Uh certainly I I'd agree to that. [3:36:28, 3:36:29]: Okay. [3:36:29, 3:36:33]: And Ms. Barber, that means you second that motion now? Yes. [3:36:33, 3:36:37]: Okay. And I would like to know no uh the Miss Holliday, you you have everything accurate at this point? [3:36:39, 3:36:41]: W what's the motion, Mayor? [3:36:41, 3:36:46]: That's that's why that's why I'm double checking it with Miss Holiday, make sure she has it everything down, right? [3:36:46, 3:36:57]: Outside, you want me to type the motion? Yes, please. All right. So this is the commercial portion of the fee schedule. And that is for the parking lot litter. [3:36:58, 3:37:04]: First fine to be two hundred dollars, second fine to be five hundred dollars, and then the third fine to be one thousand dollars. [3:37:05, 3:37:10]: Also adding for parking lot maintenance and paving and damages to parking lots. [3:37:11, 3:37:18]: First fine to be two hundred and fifty dollars, second fine to be seven hundred and fifty dollars, and the third find to be fifteen hundred dollars. [3:37:18, 3:37:21]: Then you added overgrown grass. [3:37:21, 3:37:22]: For commercial. [3:37:22, 3:37:29]: First fine to be$200, second fine to be$500, and one, the third fine to be$1,000. [3:37:31, 3:37:37]: And then part of this part of this motion now is to have the staff do some additional research. Is that correct? [3:37:37, 3:37:39]: And consult with legal. [3:37:39, 3:37:47]: And consult with legal. That's correct. Okay. Stand my please. Stand my standby. Uh Mayor Pro Tem, is that is that what you want in your motion? [3:37:47, 3:37:51]: That's accurate. Okay. And Mayor and Councilwoman Barber, you second that motion? [3:37:52, 3:37:52]: Um [3:37:54, 3:37:55]: Question. Sorry. [3:37:56, 3:37:56]: So [3:37:57, 3:37:59]: According to Chief Tramer. [3:37:59, 3:38:00]: The minimum [3:38:00, 3:38:02]: Fine is two hundred dollars. [3:38:02, 3:38:03]: But [3:38:03, 3:38:04]: Um [3:38:05, 3:38:11]: The city clerk just read off some of the fines that began the first event offense with two hundred and fifty dollars. [3:38:11, 3:38:15]: So that goes back to the point that Councilman Blount made. [3:38:15, 3:38:17]: about being excessive. [3:38:18, 3:38:21]: That is why I wanted the attorneys to review. [3:38:21, 3:38:25]: Um in the charter the language that Chief Tramer spoke to. [3:38:25, 3:38:28]: Want to make sure that we are not approving. [3:38:28, 3:38:31]: Excess of five or excess of three here. [3:38:32, 3:38:35]: Okay, l let's address this this way. Let's make them all two hundred dollars then. [3:38:37, 3:38:44]: Okay. The initial fund would be two hundred dollars on on that one instead of two fifty. So we'll we'll do what you said, which is [3:38:44, 3:38:46]: Instead of making that middle one two fifty. [3:38:46, 3:38:49]: We'll make all the initial funds two hundred dollars. [3:38:49, 3:38:52]: In accordance with what Councilwoman Barber said. [3:38:52, 3:38:53]: Can you know? [3:38:54, 3:38:57]: Clarify your motion altogether because [3:38:57, 3:39:05]: Okay, let me restate it once again. Have no problem doing that. This we might get this right before you do it. Stand by. Let me get my motion. [3:39:05, 3:39:09]: The litter on the parking lot will be two hundred dollars on the first defense. [3:39:09, 3:39:13]: Five hundred dollars on the second offense, one thousand dollars on the third offense. [3:39:14, 3:39:17]: The damage to the parking lot will be two hundred dollars on the first defense. [3:39:17, 3:39:20]: Seven hundred and fifty dollars on a second offense. [3:39:20, 3:39:22]: Fifteen hundred dollars on the third of fifth. [3:39:22, 3:39:29]: Overgrown grass will be$200 on the first offense,$500 on the second offense,$1,000 on the third offense. [3:39:31, 3:39:37]: And with the with the with the c provisions to consult legal uh as well uh and staff. [3:39:38, 3:39:42]: Okay. And there and Miss Barber, once again, you were second that motion. Is that correct? [3:39:44, 3:39:46]: Yes. Okay. Mr. Blanc, go ahead, please. [3:39:47, 3:39:52]: May Mayor and I and I and I definitely appreciate the passion of all my colleagues for what we're trying to do. [3:39:53, 3:39:55]: But I believe that in a way to keep it clean. [3:39:56, 3:39:58]: Is that I agree with the two hundred dollars. [3:39:59, 3:40:19]: But when you read the charter, it says it says it can go up to a thousand dollars. I think when you get past a warning and then you get to a fine, then you're dealing now with the courts. Fines are dealing with the courts. And then if you have to go before the judge, let that be the judge determination between that two hundred dollars to [3:40:19, 3:40:22]: to that thousand dollar, what that person's gonna be charged. [3:40:22, 3:40:42]: If it's up to a thousand dollars, that judge may say on that second offense, you're gonna pay a thousand dollars because of whatever. Each situation is gonna have a uniqueness or something attached to it. And I think that that should be left up to the courts to determine what that unique situation may be. So if we say$200 at that point, that we start to find [3:40:42, 3:40:53]: It becomes a court situation. Let the judge determine what that person's gonna end up paying. And you keep the courts and the police department separate from what we're legislating as a counsel. [3:40:55, 3:40:58]: Mayor, if I may, the the provision that the [3:40:58, 3:41:05]: Uh in the code that the chief read is correct. It's eleven point one six point zero seven zero. [3:41:06, 3:41:08]: Which caps the fine at a thousand dollars. [3:41:08, 3:41:16]: And I believe under Georgia law, the most a misdemeanor could be anyway would be a thousand dollars. We need to set that as the the upper limit. [3:41:18, 3:41:21]: Okay. Thank you for that. Miss Barber? [3:41:21, 3:41:32]: Yes, so I believe the reason for setting these fee schedules is not only for um people who may go before the courts or the judge, but there are some [3:41:32, 3:41:36]: who might want to just outright pay their fine and not go to court. [3:41:36, 3:41:38]: And we want to have a schedule put together. [3:41:38, 3:41:39]: Um [3:41:39, 3:41:40]: So that [3:41:41, 3:41:42]: Those funds. [3:41:42, 3:41:51]: or the fees for those funds are captured in a table here. Of course, the judge, it is at his discretion. [3:41:51, 3:42:00]: of whether or not um to impose this fee schedule based on every situation. But at least want to have a period there. [3:42:00, 3:42:05]: Absolutely. And Mayor, based on what the attorneys uh are you done, Miss Markham? Sorry. [3:42:06, 3:42:07]: I'm done. Go ahead. [3:42:07, 3:42:11]: Based on what the attorney just told us on his best legal advice with a [3:42:11, 3:42:14]: with a misdemeanor being kept out. [3:42:14, 3:42:34]: uh at$1,000. The damage to the parking lot fee schedule would be$200 first offense,$750 second offense, and$1,000 third offense instead of$1,500 because that is uh not inside those lines. And the and that's what Mr. Berry has stated that the maximum fine is one [3:42:34, 3:42:35]: One thousand dollars. [3:42:36, 3:42:37]: Note noted. Or [3:42:38, 3:42:48]: May Mayor. Stand by. Stand by, please. All right. So you're making an adjustment to your motion. I would imagine once again that adjustment has been seconded by Miss Barber. Is that correct? [3:42:49, 3:42:58]: I was asking Mayor Pro Tem, is this fee schedule he just recited, is it across the board for residential and commercial? It's for com it's commercial only. [3:42:58, 3:43:13]: need to state that in this motion. This this motion is for commercial only for the damage to the parking lot would be two hundred dollars first offense, seven hundred fifty dollars second offense, and one thousand for commercial entities only. [3:43:15, 3:43:20]: I believe Miss Holliday had that uh Nestle anyway, I I believe. Is that correct? [3:43:23, 3:43:24]: It's all day. [3:43:27, 3:43:36]: Sorry, yes. I'm sorry, I didn't know my um video was off. Yes, I do. So that now that we've captured what the fee schedule is for commercial. [3:43:36, 3:43:41]: What is our fee schedule for residential? Are we adopting what is suggested by staff? [3:43:41, 3:43:43]: Or are we updating that to meet? [3:43:43, 3:43:44]: The charter. [3:43:45, 3:43:48]: Um to comply with the charter with two hundred dollars. [3:43:49, 3:43:50]: Minimum fee. [3:43:51, 3:43:51]: Mm. [3:43:52, 3:44:02]: Well, before we answer that question, do you are you seconding it he made a motion, re he revised his motion. Are you gonna second that revised motion or not? No, because I need to know. [3:44:03, 3:44:09]: This this is cu this is commercial only. It's not related to the residential. We can do a separate one on the residential. [3:44:10, 3:44:15]: to make sure we address the residential piece as well. I suck in this. [3:44:16, 3:44:17]: All right. [3:44:18, 3:44:26]: Mr. Blount, you still have something you wanted to say, sir? May I use it? I'm sorry, I didn't see you, Mr. Thomas. Yeah, I've been I've been holding it for the longest. [3:44:27, 3:44:28]: Okay, I'm sorry about that. [3:44:28, 3:44:31]: Oh sorry, Mr. Blount. Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. [3:44:32, 3:44:36]: Uh Mayor Ford, um all of us are over the talk limit. [3:44:36, 3:44:43]: Uh I I move that we we go to the vote, please. I was gonna do that, sir. I got it. I got it. So stand by. [3:44:45, 3:44:47]: Yeah, everything one last comment, Mr. LeBron. [3:44:47, 3:45:03]: What I was gonna say is that what was said by the attorney is is is the fee when it comes to misdemeanors is up to a thousand dollars. Anything over a thousand dollars in the state of Georgia is is beyond a misdemeanor. Anything over twelve months uh jail time is over a misdemeanor. [3:45:03, 3:45:08]: When it says up to a thousand dollars, that's the discretion given to the courts. [3:45:09, 3:45:17]: I believe it should be given to the courts. That's why when you pass away and it says up to a thousand dollars, that discretion is for the courts. [3:45:17, 3:45:17]: All right. [3:45:19, 3:45:23]: All right, so okay. So the motion has been made, it's been second. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [3:45:24, 3:45:25]: All post. [3:45:27, 3:45:40]: I need you to note the vote, Mayor. Uh there's three three right now. Three uh Mr. Blount, what is your vote? You I abstain, Mayor, because Okay, so it's three zero three zero one. The motion passed, three zero one. All right. Now in reference to residential. [3:45:41, 3:45:45]: And uh we are doing something separate of residential. That was commercial, so something different residential here. [3:45:50, 3:45:54]: Miss Johnson, there's there's something different and residential that you need from us. [3:45:55, 3:45:55]: No. [3:45:55, 3:45:56]: No sé. [3:45:56, 3:45:57]: Okay. [3:45:58, 3:46:03]: So what we passed was commercial residential seems to be fine as as it as it stands. What are that correct? [3:46:04, 3:46:05]: A risk [3:46:05, 3:46:12]: Well, state the residential. It's right now it's fifty dollars, seventy five, a hundred, and one fifty. Are you comfortable with that, councilwoman? [3:46:14, 3:46:17]: No, aren't we supposed to be complying with the code? [3:46:19, 3:46:21]: Everything is two hundred dollars. [3:46:21, 3:46:24]: minimum fee. That's what the code says, right? [3:46:24, 3:46:25]: Am I misunderstanding it? [3:46:27, 3:46:31]: Is it two hundred dollars for the res residential two uh lawyer uh attorneys? [3:46:33, 3:46:39]: Anything that comes up under chapter eleven, the penalty section is just eleven point sixteen point zero seven oh. [3:46:40, 3:46:43]: But that also does and that's what we're trying to look at now. [3:46:43, 3:46:50]: All the littering is covered under 11.16 and that and and that involves littering on public or private. [3:46:51, 3:46:54]: And that also involves littering in [3:46:54, 3:46:55]: public or private property. [3:46:56, 3:46:57]: And so [3:46:57, 3:47:00]: We're looking now for the commercial, but we're trying to [3:47:01, 3:47:04]: Answer y'all's questions while at the same time looking at this. [3:47:04, 3:47:05]: It won't be [3:47:05, 3:47:07]: We have to do that. [3:47:09, 3:47:13]: Mayor, my concern is that I just won't don't want us making [3:47:13, 3:47:20]: uh putting this fee schedule in a place and I agree with councilwoman barber outside the boundaries of our code. [3:47:21, 3:47:27]: of our uh that that we have in our coat because if we do those things can be challenged those things when you find yourself [3:47:27, 3:47:45]: doing something to a resident or business, those are the kind of things that get us in litigation if we are going outside those boundaries. And we have to be careful and cautious when something says up to that we're implementing that direct amount because up to should be the discretion of the courts. [3:47:46, 3:48:04]: All right. So what the we on the commercial side we passed that. So now we're looking to residential. Is there anything different than residential? Anything else that Ms. Johnson, you think you need to add to this conversation to help us with this process? This is your this this is your daily wick here. Um because there, you know, there's some questions about the commercial versus residential. [3:48:04, 3:48:07]: Um the this fee schedule is based on, you know. [3:48:08, 3:48:09]: region wide. [3:48:09, 3:48:29]: Um if we need to go back, if if myself and staff need to go back and take a look at this and work with the attorneys on these fees, then we can do that and bring it back because um the violations and penalties in the code, those amounts are based on conviction and [3:48:29, 3:48:36]: And the judge makes that decision. And I think we just need to make a distinction between what the judge has a max. [3:48:37, 3:48:48]: penalty for violators versus the fee schedule that is for the actual violations that people can just pay the amount, go on and then come into compliance. So [3:48:48, 3:48:51]: If that's the pleasure of the board, just a suggestion. [3:48:52, 3:49:12]: All right, so let me so the commercial has been passed. We set that there right now is residential. So otherwise, if uh you're more than willing, Miss Johnson, if the council wants to delay this to come back further, maybe in another month or so, I guess in this aspect after confirming with the attorneys to make sure that everything is proper on the on the residential side. No certainly. [3:49:12, 3:49:16]: Okay that's what you're suggesting. Okay, so now the the issue would be [3:49:16, 3:49:19]: This should be the whether the council won wants that to occur or not. [3:49:20, 3:49:21]: Yeah, forward. Ms. Barber, go ahead. [3:49:22, 3:49:30]: I motion to approve the suggestion Ms. Johnson just mentioned. [3:49:30, 3:49:31]: About [3:49:32, 3:49:33]: Consulting with the attorneys. [3:49:34, 3:49:36]: Um and bringing us back. [3:49:36, 3:49:37]: Oh [3:49:37, 3:49:38]: A clean people. [3:49:39, 3:49:46]: And make that thirty days and then we can we and and with a t with a time with a deadline and then I'm okay with it. I'll second. [3:49:48, 3:49:49]: Ms. Barber? [3:49:50, 3:49:51]: Okay, thirty days. [3:49:51, 3:49:52]: Second. [3:49:52, 3:49:53]: And it's back in thirty days. [3:49:54, 3:49:55]: All right. [3:49:55, 3:50:02]: And this is dealing with the residential only, is what we're talking about. Okay. All right. So all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [3:50:04, 3:50:12]: Uh I see Miss uh Mr. Thomas. Mr. Thomas, okay, gotcha. Okay, so uh Mr Mr. Blount, what's your vote, sir? [3:50:13, 3:50:15]: This is the brain of peace schedule back in thirty days. [3:50:15, 3:50:21]: Yes, it is. The the the for residential. For residential. Okay, so you're in favor? [3:50:23, 3:50:31]: You're in favor, Ms. Mill. Okay, so that's that's four. Miss Oliver S for four votes for that. Okay, thank you. We're gonna we're now done with this particular section. [3:50:31, 3:50:34]: We'll move on. Thank you, Mayor. Oh, you're welcome. Thank you. [3:50:35, 3:50:42]: Okay, so number twenty-five, council consideration to approve the vehicle usage policy for the city of Stockbridge Police Department. [3:50:42, 3:50:44]: Uh Chief Traveler, sir, please. [3:50:45, 3:50:50]: Yes, Mayor Council, thank you. Uh as you are aware, we're in the process of um [3:50:50, 3:50:57]: After the first of the year, we will begin recruiting personnel for our police department. We have 53 positions that we still need to recruit for. [3:50:57, 3:51:05]: Chief, stand by a second. Chief, I'm sorry, stand by. And Miss uh uh Miss Johnson, can there you go? Thank you, appreciate it. Thank you. Go ahead, Chief. Go ahead. [3:51:05, 3:51:06]: I'm sorry. [3:51:06, 3:51:06]: Quite chief. [3:51:07, 3:51:16]: Okay, yes, sir. And um one of the things that we're doing is developing some recruitment literature. One of the benefits that we would like to provide to officers that will be seeking to join our department. [3:51:16, 3:51:27]: is the benefit of a take-home vehicle. Um obviously there are a number of benefits for having a take home vehicle, uh many of which are listed in the policy, but I would like to state publicly that some of the benefits include [3:51:28, 3:51:35]: Um, I think first and foremost is just enhanced safety and security in the community, just by having increased visibility and presence of police vehicles. [3:51:36, 3:51:40]: on the streets, roadways, and neighborhoods, it certainly serves as a turrent to crime. [3:51:40, 3:51:41]: Um [3:51:41, 3:51:43]: It also provides a quicker response time. [3:51:44, 3:51:46]: of officers who are assigned those vehicles. [3:51:47, 3:51:51]: Uh it reduces our maintenance costs and it's proven to increase the life expectancy of vehicles. [3:51:51, 3:52:01]: It also allows for the rapid deployment of off-duty personnel in the event that there's an emergency that occurs in the city that necessitates a response of off-duty officers. [3:52:01, 3:52:07]: It also uh enhances accountability by being able to hold an individual officer specifically accountable for an assigned vehicle. [3:52:08, 3:52:12]: And then as I've mentioned before, it is um a a [3:52:13, 3:52:15]: Huge incentive for officers. [3:52:15, 3:52:19]: To maintain employment with our department і so. [3:52:19, 3:52:23]: Uh many of the provisions of this policy uh there are [3:52:23, 3:52:24]: Um [3:52:25, 3:52:28]: They're they're in duplicate of what the city's current uh [3:52:29, 3:52:32]: vehicle policy is. However, there are some additions. [3:52:32, 3:52:35]: Specific to uh law enforcement vehicles. [3:52:35, 3:52:40]: Uh one of the differences is that we're seeking uh council approval for the minimum. [3:52:40, 3:52:48]: Uh, mileage restriction for that vehicle to be 35 miles. So officers that live within a 35 mile radius of the city limits. [3:52:49, 3:52:51]: would be eligible for a take home vehicle. [3:52:51, 3:52:55]: And the reason for the thirty five mile uh limit is [3:52:55, 3:53:02]: We w basically pulled distance from city limits to adjacent counties, and the furthest distance of any of those adjacent counties was thirty-five miles. [3:53:03, 3:53:08]: There is no set standard for take home mileage. It varies from department to department. [3:53:08, 3:53:23]: Um, I know there are um as a matter of fact, all the agencies in Henry County uh do offer a a take home vehicle program and the mileage differs for those agencies. As a point of reference, Henry County's minimum mileage is fifteen miles. [3:53:23, 3:53:24]: From the county. [3:53:24, 3:53:30]: Uh McDonough's is twenty, Hampton's is twenty five, and the city of Locust Grove is thirty-five miles. [3:53:30, 3:53:41]: We would like to remain among the most competitive and uh that's why we seek council's approval for that minimum thirty-five mile take home radius for officers to be eligible for a take home vehicle. [3:53:42, 3:53:42]: Air for [3:53:43, 3:53:43]: Yes, man. [3:53:44, 3:53:51]: I'd like to accept and approve the recommendation as made by Chief Tramer. We certainly want to be competitive. [3:53:52, 3:53:56]: Okay. Mr. Thomas Second Dan. Okay, further discussion. [3:53:57, 3:53:59]: But okay, all in favor, please indicate. [3:54:00, 3:54:04]: All right then, Mr. Blount, did you I didn't see your vote, sir. [3:54:05, 3:54:20]: Okay, so unanimous decision. Thank you very much. All right, we'll move right on. Uh council consideration to approve the purchase of body worn cameras, in-car video cameras, and associated storage costs for the city of Starburst Police Department. Funding source ARPA. [3:54:20, 3:54:21]: Chief Tramor, please. [3:54:22, 3:54:30]: Yes, Mayor and Council, if I could, um, I would like to allow Commander Richard Godfrey to present all these items. Uh Commander Godfrey. [3:54:30, 3:54:40]: uh did most of the research on these and is very familiar with a lot of the technical components. So if the council uh will allow, I'd like to turn this over to uh Commander Godfrey to present. [3:54:40, 3:54:41]: on uh the these items. [3:54:42, 3:54:43]: Okay, go ahead, please. [3:54:49, 3:54:50]: Well, Mr. Godfrey, go right ahead. Commander. [3:55:00, 3:55:03]: Can't hear you. Okay, I can't hear him, uh, Commander. [3:55:10, 3:55:12]: He is not muted, so he may have a problem with his mic. [3:55:13, 3:55:14]: Okay. [3:55:16, 3:55:18]: Okay, might be a problem with your mic there, Commander. [3:55:19, 3:55:23]: How about now? Oh there you go. Al standing. Gotcha. Okay. [3:55:23, 3:55:34]: So before you tonight, sir, is a resolution to approve uh body warn in any car camera systems. We have evaluated several different companies from a company referred to as GTAC. [3:55:34, 3:55:40]: uh Motorola uh watch guard and the one before you tonight is uh axon [3:55:40, 3:55:48]: Uh you most of you may know the company name better as Taser. Uh the name was changed a few years ago to Axon International. [3:55:49, 3:55:56]: So the uh cost factor that you have before you um is uh [3:55:57, 3:56:11]: a breakdown so you can see the total number so the uh body worn camera uh package would be a total for a total of 50 uh body worn cameras and the associated equipment to uh go along with it [3:56:12, 3:56:23]: Um some of the capabilities of these cameras, just like a cell phone has an LTE capability, so it has a a built-in SIM card within the body camera. [3:56:24, 3:56:44]: So when the officer uh is on a call or exits that vehicle, uh let's say a foot chase ensued uh that ended the officer with a quarter mile to a half mile away from the vehicle. And what that built-in SIM car is gonna allow them to do is to be tracked via GPS. So let's say that that officer was injured. [3:56:43, 3:57:03]: And could not get onto the radio, we would be able to track that officer via GPS and be able to locate them then provide uh medical assistance to that officer. Um built into uh the system as well, uh as part of what you're gonna hear in a few minutes with the uh taser program. The taser has a built-in [3:57:03, 3:57:05]: Uh microchip. [3:57:05, 3:57:25]: So when that it is withdrawn from the holster, it automatically activates the body camera. This works in cohesion with the built-in with the N-CAR camera system so that we can program various triggers to activate the body camera as well. So when the officer engages their emergency equipment. [3:57:25, 3:57:26]: Lights and sour. [3:57:26, 3:57:30]: Um when they turn on the uh onboard camera system. [3:57:31, 3:57:39]: When they open the door to exit the vehicle, all of these are built-in triggers to be able to activate the body worn camera. [3:57:39, 3:57:56]: Uh as you all know, body one cameras today are vital. Uh they protect the citizens and they protect the officer against false allegations. Uh so it is imperative that we not only implement the body one camera system, but we implement a camera system. [3:57:56, 3:57:58]: That is on the leading edge of technology. [3:57:58, 3:58:09]: And we all believe at the command staff level that Exxon will provide the leading edge of technology and prevail provide this type of service for many years to come. [3:58:11, 3:58:23]: Appreciate that. I um my initial question, you said 50, I thought, said 50 of these items that you wanted to purchase, but I don't I must have missed it. Did you have a total amount that uh ARPA funds this would this would uh cost? [3:58:24, 3:58:25]: Yes, sir. [3:58:25, 3:58:29]: Just one. Can you share can you share the uh can you share your screen, Commander Godfrey? [3:58:29, 3:58:33]: Shows the summary of the cost for those Yes sir. That's that's what I'm pulling up now. [3:58:49, 3:58:51]: Can everyone see my screen? [3:58:51, 3:58:51]: Yes. [3:58:53, 3:59:13]: So the first uh packet that you're looking at is for the fleet camera system. This is 42 uh in-car camera systems, uh 42 cradle points. What cradle points are is a uh router system that goes in the trunk of the car. So we've all seen little MIFIs or little jet. [3:59:13, 3:59:25]: net packs that are a broadband wireless network uh that you can operate. It's very similar to your wireless system that you would have at home or within like City Hall. [3:59:25, 3:59:41]: And what this allows it to do is to any wireless device within the car, which is the N-CAR camera system, the Body Worn camera system, our records management system that we'll be moving forward with, it allows that to provide network connectivity to all the systems. [3:59:42, 3:59:42]: Um [3:59:44, 3:59:45]: It also has [3:59:46, 3:59:53]: uh a built-in the new system that we're looking at, which will be released in the first quarter of 2022. [3:59:53, 3:59:57]: The front facing camera system also has a built-in license plate reader. [3:59:57, 4:00:07]: So you no longer have to look at that as a separate cost or separate purchase. And it is also integrated within the Axon camera system itself. [4:00:08, 4:00:28]: So as I advance down to the next couple of pages down, you will see the cost for the N-CAR systems. Uh, and this is a five-year program at 471-743-99. And that is for the N-CAR camera systems. Uh, the next uh tab over. [4:00:28, 4:00:48]: You will see the body worn camera systems. These are for the uh 50 body camera systems, comes with the various mounts, uh cables, uh, professional licensing that is needed for this. It comes with uh evidence.com, which is the back-end uh software management system, which is where [4:00:47, 4:00:57]: All the N-Car camera videos, Body One camera videos, uh the taser downloads, all of this will be stored in the backend software of evidence.com. [4:00:59, 4:01:06]: The total cost for the body warm camera system for a five-year program is two thirty-nine five hundred and one cent. [4:01:09, 4:01:14]: Okay. Thank you for that. Uh council, any questions for uh Commander Goffrey here? [4:01:15, 4:01:16]: Yes, um [4:01:16, 4:01:17]: Go ahead, please. [4:01:17, 4:01:18]: Pretty. [4:01:18, 4:01:21]: What was the total cost of the in car system? [4:01:23, 4:01:24]: So let me go back to that for you. [4:01:30, 4:01:35]: Okay, I got it. Four hundred four hundred and seventy one thousand seven forty three ninety nine. [4:01:36, 4:01:36]: Yes, ma'am. [4:01:37, 4:01:38]: Thank you. Um [4:01:39, 4:01:43]: So what it is there a warranty also included in this cost? [4:01:44, 4:01:49]: Yes, ma'am. Everything is warranted against a full replacement for over the five year period. [4:01:49, 4:01:52]: Okay, so it's not a separate cost. [4:01:52, 4:01:55]: No ma'am, it is incor incorporated within this this quote. [4:01:55, 4:02:11]: Thank you. And that is also ac includes accidental damage. So if the officer, if it gets damaged, uh say the body worn camera gets damaged during a struggle or it falls off during a foot pursuit and it's lost, uh, any type of damage at all, it is fully covered and fully replaceable. [4:02:14, 4:02:19]: Fantastic. Any other questions for Commander Goffer? Yeah. Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. [4:02:19, 4:02:25]: Yes, sir. Thank you, sir, for your presentation. Oh, I have a question about the technology. [4:02:25, 4:02:26]: Yeah, it's still. [4:02:26, 4:02:27]: So [4:02:27, 4:02:34]: There's uh systems apparently in the past where you know, we're dealing with social justice and where we are in America right now. So [4:02:35, 4:02:41]: These cameras, do the officers have the ability to turn them all on and off, or are they on a hundred percent of the time? [4:02:42, 4:02:54]: They are on. The officer will have the ability, just like any technology of being able to turn it off. However, our our policy will dictate that the camera remains on as long as they're engaging with the citizen. [4:02:56, 4:02:58]: Okay, so the policy will be [4:02:58, 4:03:01]: As long as they're engaging with a citizen at any time that [4:03:02, 4:03:06]: It so is there a technology where the camera can't be turned off or no? [4:03:07, 4:03:25]: No, sir. Most uh all the body cameras that we have evaluated have the ability of being able to turn it off. So it it falls back to a policy. And within that policy is going to require supervision to spot check a certain percentage of those videos to make sure that the officers are in compliance. [4:03:26, 4:03:31]: And and if I could, just to the technology mayor pro tem, one of the things I want to share with you, it's not yet [4:03:32, 4:03:35]: Um it's not yet available, but there is discussion with this company that [4:03:36, 4:03:41]: uh it has the capability to uh recognize uh it's got the voice analytics. [4:03:42, 4:03:49]: So uh future technology, if there's any abusive language or anything that's being said by the officer, it can send. [4:03:50, 4:03:57]: Or should be able to send in the future an alert to the supervisors to review that incident so that we have enhanced capability with our officers. So if they're [4:03:58, 4:04:10]: you know, i is is some sort of expletives or or derogatory profane language, then it would cue those things up for supervisory to review for us to be able to look at those contextually to see what um [4:04:10, 4:04:30]: uh what what's what's happening in that interaction. And obviously because of privacy concerns, you can't record the officer twenty four seven. I mean, they've got to go to the restroom and do a lot of personal things and they'll have access to uh confidential information. And so the the capability to turn on and off has to be there. However, again by our policy, uh it will [4:04:30, 4:04:31]: predicate. [4:04:31, 4:04:44]: when they're to turn it on and off and we will be checking for that. But another thing too is that we will be implementing triggers too. So that when the officer pulls their weapon from their holster, it will automatically activate their body camera. [4:04:44, 4:04:48]: when they turn their taser on, it will automatically activate their body camera. [4:04:48, 4:04:58]: So uh this system's very robust. It's at the forefront of the technology. And um I think that in terms of accountability, this is this is probably the best option out there. [4:04:58, 4:05:12]: And to piggyback on the chief's comment on that technology, uh understand that this technology is being released next year. Uh this technology will be considered as a firmware update and there will be no additional cost to the city. [4:05:13, 4:05:14]: Thank you. [4:05:15, 4:05:17]: Uh Councilwoman Barber, go ahead, please. [4:05:18, 4:05:30]: I was going to ask about the in-car systems. I know that there's um your request for uh a quantity of 50 of the body worn cameras, but what about the in-car systems? [4:05:31, 4:05:33]: How many of the vehicles will be [4:05:34, 4:05:37]: fit it with this in your proposal right here. [4:05:37, 4:05:48]: So all of the cars on patrol to include the ones we will be identified for crime scene technicians will all be equipped with in-car cameras. [4:05:50, 4:05:50]: Okay. [4:05:51, 4:05:55]: But with this figure of four hundred and seventy one thousand seven hundred and forty three [4:05:56, 4:05:57]: Towers. [4:05:59, 4:06:04]: All of the vehicles is it sixty-two vehicles, Chief Tramer? I think [4:06:04, 4:06:11]: There's sixty sixty vehicles actually. So forty-two will be equipped as Commander Gonfrey had said. Those will be all the marked patrol vehicles. [4:06:11, 4:06:16]: Um the unmarked vehicles, uh the vehicles detectives will be using in in [4:06:16, 4:06:19]: Command staff will not have those camera systems. [4:06:19, 4:06:23]: Because by law they are not supposed to be used for traffic enforcement. [4:06:23, 4:06:31]: So we really and they won't be set up for prisoner transport. So the need for those uh does not exist beyond the uh patrol vehicle. [4:06:31, 4:06:35]: We could obviously, you know, in include those, but I don't think that it would be worth the cost. [4:06:35, 4:06:40]: And what that breaks down to is about eleven thousand two hundred and thirty dollars per vehicle. [4:06:40, 4:06:45]: for that system. And again, this is cutting edge technology with these cameras. [4:06:45, 4:06:50]: It has the ability to automatically it reads all the license plates in front of the officers. [4:06:50, 4:06:59]: So if there's a stolen vehicle, if there's a wanted person, if there's a missing person, it's scanning all this information and it's giving that information right back to the officer immediately. [4:07:00, 4:07:01]: Thank you. [4:07:01, 4:07:02]: Therefore, another [4:07:02, 4:07:22]: Another prime reason why we're looking at Axon as well. Um, we're gonna be looking at additional later on, additional cameras, stationary cameras uh around the city. Uh Axon being the only company right now that partners with another company called Flock. I don't know if you have anybody heard of that, but a lot of city municipalities. [4:07:22, 4:07:42]: These counties and even statewide are implementing these cameras. And what they're doing is they're running these tags continuously as vehicles are entering the city. So for we're looking for suspended drivers, we're looking for people who have outstanding warrants tagged against the vehicle. So [4:07:42, 4:07:51]: Uh again, we're trying to leverage all the different various technologies that we can to enhance uh the city uh police department. [4:07:53, 4:07:53]: Yeah. [4:07:54, 4:07:57]: All right, uh Councilman uh Blount, go ahead, please. [4:07:58, 4:08:14]: Yeah, thank you, Mayor. Um, just to be clear, this these amounts, it said for five years. So this this the one time amount on both of these, which is about a little over seven hundred thousand dollars. That seven hundred thousand dollars that the one time amount is at the residual amount for five years. [4:08:15, 4:08:22]: That is a one time amount covering the the five years. And we can we can choose to remain in that equipment at that time, or we can look at [4:08:23, 4:08:27]: upgrading to the newest technology that may be available at that time. [4:08:27, 4:08:33]: How often does the technology advances? Because if we're locking in for five years. [4:08:33, 4:08:45]: Where will we find ourselves in an advancement of because you know our technology can, you know, I just want to know how, how, how quickly does that technology advance uh in this field? [4:08:45, 4:09:05]: Obviously, you know, there's no way for us to speak on what may come out in the next two years. Uh, because as we've seen, technology is changing sometimes weekly. Uh, but one of the primary reasons why we went with this company is because for right now, this is the latest and greatest technology that is available on the market for incarnation. [4:09:05, 4:09:12]: car cameras uh and body warm cameras. And again, the the we're so advanced in the in-car camera system. [4:09:12, 4:09:13]: That the [4:09:14, 4:09:18]: system that the the front facing camera will be incorporating [4:09:18, 4:09:38]: a license plate reader, which won't even be available until first quarter of next year. Now they will be on our cars based on the time that they're outfitted, but that is technology that is hasn't even hit the market. So we're we're purchasing technology that will be available for us, but it's not available for anybody else right now. [4:09:38, 4:09:46]: Okay. And the other thing, if if Councilman Blount to your point, if I could just inject for a moment in in in uh Commander Godfrey, uh correct me if I'm wrong. [4:09:46, 4:09:55]: that this system with the body worn devices includes a an an upgrade uh two, three years into the thing. So basically they would [4:09:55, 4:09:58]: They would upgrade this system and we would get new cameras. [4:09:59, 4:10:01]: two or three years into the contract. Is that correct? [4:10:01, 4:10:11]: Yeah, for the body worn cameras, we would have what's referred to as a refresh after two and a half years. So if Exxon does change the technology of their camera. [4:10:11, 4:10:18]: uh of the body one camera within two and a half years, we would get the upgraded system for the remaining two and a half years. [4:10:18, 4:10:32]: Okay. So we we do get one upgrade. Uh are we dealing directly with Ax Axon or are we dealing through uh a third entity? Are we dealing directly with Axon? Yes, sir. We're dealing directly with Axon on this purchase. [4:10:33, 4:10:37]: Okay, good. Uh great job, guys. Thanks a lot. Yes, sir. [4:10:37, 4:10:39]: Okay, if they're not the yes, my Miss Barber. [4:10:41, 4:10:46]: I was just gonna say you you don't you don't see me? I'm sorry, Mr. Thomas. I didn't see you. Go ahead, sir. [4:10:48, 4:11:01]: Go go ahead, Miss Bar. I just want to know, do you see me? Because I've been holding my hand up all night and you see Well, I have s I have to keep rotating back and forth. My screen only has six of you, so I have to re rotate back and forth. And I've been doing that. Now missed go ahead. If you want Miss Barber to go, she can go. [4:11:02, 4:11:09]: Okay. I I was gonna move to approve so we can go on because you know we're talking five or six time on the subject. So I'm I'm just trying to [4:11:10, 4:11:11]: I mean, you're trying to move us along. [4:11:11, 4:11:13]: Are you to uh [4:11:13, 4:11:15]: Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [4:11:15, 4:11:18]: That's exactly what I was gonna do. I was gonna make a motion. [4:11:18, 4:11:20]: Okay. Make a motion. That's great. [4:11:20, 4:11:40]: Approve, the purchase of body worn cameras, in-car video cameras, and associated storage costs for the City of Stockbridge Police Department, the funding source ARPA in the amount of seven hundred eleven thousand two hundred and forty-three dollars and ninety-nine cents. That is the total, correct? [4:11:40, 4:11:41]: Okay. [4:11:42, 4:11:42]: Okay. [4:11:42, 4:11:48]: I'm sorry, we're off what I'm sorry, we're off one cent. It's seven hundred and eleven thousand two hundred and forty four dollars even. [4:11:49, 4:11:49]: Okay. Yeah. [4:11:51, 4:11:57]: Okay. Seven hundred eleven thousand two hundred and forty-three dollars, uh forty four dollars. [4:11:58, 4:12:09]: Right. I do. Okay. Miss uh Barber made a motion. Mayor Pro Temp second that motion. All in favor of motion, please indicate. [4:12:10, 4:12:21]: Okay, and I would imagine Mr. Blount, you will you approve that as well. Okay, good deal. Thank you very much. All right. So now it's decision on that on that aspect. Thank you. [4:12:23, 4:12:28]: Council consideration to approve and the purchase of mobile in-car police radios. [4:12:29, 4:12:31]: For the C stop Bridge Police Department funding source ARPA. [4:12:32, 4:12:34]: Mr. uh Chief Tramor, please. [4:12:36, 4:12:38]: Mayor Godfrey, can you pull up those quotes, please? [4:12:45, 4:12:47]: Thank you. And if you would uh go ahead with that, uh sir. [4:12:48, 4:13:08]: So in addition to uh the body worn in-car camera systems before you tonight, we also have a requisition to purchase for your approval uh to purchase both uh portable and in-car radios um from Loudoun Communications, which is the authorized dealer for uh Harris 3 uh radio. [4:13:08, 4:13:17]: This is the same system that Henry County, as well as all the other city municipalities, use in Henry County. They are also on state contract. [4:13:19, 4:13:19]: Okay. [4:13:20, 4:13:24]: Questions for Chief uh Godfrey uh excuse me, Commander Goffery. [4:13:24, 4:13:26]: Uh Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [4:13:27, 4:13:33]: Um well this is in reference to the last item and this one as well. I wanted to ask. [4:13:34, 4:13:35]: So [4:13:39, 4:13:43]: I guess we need to know what the balance is. [4:13:44, 4:13:47]: And I can I can speak to that um uh councilwoman barber. [4:13:48, 4:13:57]: Um I sat down with Mr. Aaron and we looked at uh Mr. Aaron and Mr. Wiggins and I looked at public works projects and police projects. We s we sat down and we looked at things and [4:13:57, 4:14:02]: And um we anticipated from the police department standpoint for [4:14:02, 4:14:12]: Um future purchases about two million dollars. And we have before you tonight about a million and a half of that from ARPA funding. Currently there's about one point four million in [4:14:12, 4:14:18]: the ARPA fund balance at the moment, but we will get the other five and a half million in April. [4:14:19, 4:14:29]: Uh we what we didn't mention on the uh on the axon, the NCAR body worn, uh the NCAR and the body worn cameras as well as the taser proposal that was submit to you later this evening. [4:14:29, 4:14:31]: is that those um [4:14:31, 4:14:37]: Those items will not be the contract states, those items payments not due until May twenty twenty two. [4:14:37, 4:14:44]: So we will have the next round of ARPA funding in for uh those purchases before those purchases are due. [4:14:44, 4:14:50]: But we have uh w we have currently used three point one million. [4:14:51, 4:14:53]: for the vehicles and associated equipment. [4:14:53, 4:14:58]: uh we'll be using one point five million for these purchases and ARPA funding. [4:14:58, 4:15:00]: Which is uh four point six. [4:15:00, 4:15:04]: million of the eleven million plus that the city [4:15:04, 4:15:05]: as received. [4:15:06, 4:15:06]: Um [4:15:07, 4:15:09]: We've used, I think, um [4:15:09, 4:15:29]: roughly a million from public work so it puts us at about 5.6. So we've essentially will have used about one disbursement, which leaves us about 5.6 million in ARPA funding available for future purposes in the future. That does not include the extra two million that we may get by virtue of the grant that Mr. Aaron had applied for. [4:15:29, 4:15:32]: So that could go up to seven. [4:15:32, 4:15:33]: Point. [4:15:33, 4:15:44]: uh five seven point six million in additional ARPA funding for future purpose purchases, whether they be public safety or public works or whatever else the council deems uh appropriate. [4:15:45, 4:15:49]: Thank you for that, Chief Trainer. Um, I have one more follow-up question. [4:15:50, 4:15:55]: So you mentioned that this particular item we're piggybacking off of a state contract. [4:15:56, 4:16:03]: There's Harris Harris is on state contract. These radios are on state contract. Um that was sourced in the documents. [4:16:03, 4:16:08]: In Loudoun communication, we have a sole source letter. They are the sole provider of this equipment in the state of Georgia. [4:16:09, 4:16:10]: Thank you for that. [4:16:10, 4:16:12]: And the last item, are we pay backing? [4:16:13, 4:16:14]: Off the state contract correct. [4:16:16, 4:16:16]: Yeah. [4:16:17, 4:16:18]: Which item? [4:16:18, 4:16:20]: Um that's the body worn cameras. [4:16:22, 4:16:24]: Axon is also on state contract, yes, ma'am. [4:16:25, 4:16:26]: Thank you very much. [4:16:26, 4:16:28]: Um the other thing is [4:16:28, 4:16:31]: Most of these items, I know that there are grants out there. [4:16:32, 4:16:36]: But we're having to use ARPA because we have no one at the table. [4:16:37, 4:16:39]: to search for those grants. [4:16:40, 4:16:45]: No, you're you're no you're you're absolutely right. I have a good friend of mine that uh she's actually [4:16:46, 4:16:50]: She's um she's a grants administrator for the Rockdale County Sheriff's Office. [4:16:50, 4:17:04]: As a point as a point of reference, in the last year she's procured two million dollars in additional funding for the Rockdale County Sheriff's Office. This is exactly what I've been talking about. I hope my councilmates are paying attention. We're spending ARPA funds. [4:17:05, 4:17:06]: Of course that's [4:17:06, 4:17:09]: Not money out of our general fund. [4:17:09, 4:17:11]: But if we had another [4:17:11, 4:17:12]: Funding source [4:17:13, 4:17:14]: That a [4:17:14, 4:17:15]: Great. [4:17:15, 4:17:16]: Person [4:17:16, 4:17:20]: could have obtained from us, we wouldn't have to even use the ARPA funds. [4:17:21, 4:17:23]: That is why we need. [4:17:23, 4:17:26]: A grants administrator or [4:17:26, 4:17:39]: Someone at the table going after these grants. That's all. Um, if there are no other comments, I'd make a motion to approve uh this item at the recommendation of our chief and Mr. Commander Godfrey. [4:17:40, 4:17:40]: Second. [4:17:41, 4:17:45]: And Miraportem second that uh Mr. Thomas, you're unmuted. Do you have a comment, sir? [4:17:46, 4:17:48]: Uh I was just going to second. [4:17:49, 4:17:49]: Okay. [4:17:50, 4:17:51]: All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [4:17:53, 4:18:02]: All right, and uh and I believe uh Mr. Blount moved a stepped away for a minute. So anyway, to the pass three, three zero zero. [4:18:02, 4:18:10]: Yes, ma'am. Uh we were good. That was one of the items where they were gonna state the total so that we could put it on the record. [4:18:11, 4:18:11]: Uh. [4:18:11, 4:18:12]: All right. [4:18:13, 4:18:20]: For the radio system, the total amount for the radio system is six hundred and eleven thousand seven hundred and thirty six dollars. [4:18:21, 4:18:31]: All right, thank you. Out of opera funds. Okay. Good good catch. All right. Uh I'm sorry. Can you repeat that again, Commander Gosper? [4:18:31, 4:18:35]: Yes, ma'am, six hundred and eleven thousand seven hundred and thirty six dollars. [4:18:36, 4:18:36]: Thank you. [4:18:38, 4:18:53]: The uh council consideration to approve the purchase of remote control spotlights for the city of Stoppers Police Department patrol vehicles in amount of thirty-seven thousand five hundred eighty-nine dollars and twenty-six cents. Funding sources, ARPA, Chief, please. [4:18:56, 4:18:58]: Uh we had yes, Miss Barber. [4:19:00, 4:19:05]: Um no, I just wanted to ask um Chief Tramer. [4:19:06, 4:19:11]: I know that we need all of these items on order now. We don't want to wait until [4:19:11, 4:19:17]: you know, July first and order some of these items. I know they're critical in establishing the police department. [4:19:18, 4:19:27]: Is any of them able to just hold off at least for a month so we get a grant writer or someone to I'm just asking. [4:19:29, 4:19:40]: Yeah, I think it would take longer than a a month to even by the time that we procured a grant writer and we got this to be able to secure grants and enough time for that. The good thing is is I wanted to mention that that [4:19:40, 4:19:50]: In the upcoming year, the current administration anticipates a a a a large sum, multi millions dollars in funding uh through the Edward Byrne Memorial Justice Assistance Grant. [4:19:50, 4:20:09]: Where we will hopefully be able to hire officers, we'll be able to purchase equipment. And so we obviously would want to get somebody to focus on those things right away. Uh there will be a lot of future opportunities that we can use to offset police department expenses. Uh, but I think that that based on the time restraints we have right now, that wouldn't be a feasible option. [4:20:10, 4:20:11]: Thank you, sir. [4:20:12, 4:20:19]: Go ahead, tree uh chief, with your explanation about the uh your explanation about these uh remote control spotlights needed. [4:20:22, 4:20:23]: So uh [4:20:23, 4:20:31]: Commander Godfrey, I'll take this one and I'll leave the next one to you, sir. So essentially what happens is you all know we were able to source some vehicles. [4:20:31, 4:20:38]: uh that put us in a good position to be able to acquire vehicles in the time needed uh for police department rollout. [4:20:38, 4:20:42]: Now one of the things we did not notice until after we had procured the vehicles. [4:20:43, 4:20:47]: You see the the manufacturer goes in and selects the equipment on those vehicles. [4:20:47, 4:20:52]: So certain equipment specifications have been selected on those vehicles. [4:20:52, 4:20:57]: Uh before we weighed in on that, these vehicles had been manufactured without spotlights. [4:20:57, 4:21:16]: Uh as you know, spotlights are essential piece of equipment, especially on a patrol vehicle. So we're in a situation now where we have to uh retrofit those vehicles with the spotlights. We did not um we did not know that at the beginning, but essentially what that comes down to is the cost of retrofitting uh the 42 patrol vehicles. [4:21:17, 4:21:22]: With spotlights to include labor is thirty seven thousand five hundred and eighty nine dollars and twenty six cents. [4:21:23, 4:21:25]: Uh so we're seeking uh [4:21:25, 4:21:26]: Council approval. [4:21:27, 4:21:31]: for that purchase to be able to equip those patrol vehicles with the spotlights. [4:21:32, 4:21:37]: Okay. Uh yeah, there's a uh this loud and communication is still up. Do you still need that up, sir? [4:21:40, 4:21:42]: Commander Godfrey, can you cue the next quote there, sir? [4:21:43, 4:21:43]: Yeah. [4:21:44, 4:21:48]: Thank you. Any questions for um Chief Tremor about the spotlights? [4:21:55, 4:22:00]: Okay, thank you, sir. Any questions, concern? And if not, I need a motion to accept the proposal. [4:22:02, 4:22:05]: Mayor board, I'm I move to approve. [4:22:05, 4:22:07]: Okay, thank you. Is there a second? [4:22:07, 4:22:12]: Ms. Barber seconds that any further discussion? And if not, all in favor, please indicate. [4:22:14, 4:22:16]: Okay, and Mr. Blount. [4:22:16, 4:22:17]: Your vote, sir. [4:22:19, 4:22:23]: All right, uh three of it it passes three zero. [4:22:24, 4:22:37]: Okay. And uh on that note, uh, we got uh the next thing would be council consideration for the 56 tasers, if I have the number right. Um and uh is that you chief that's gonna uh talk about that? [4:22:37, 4:22:40]: Commander Godfrey has this. Go ahead, sir. Okay. Appreciate it. [4:22:42, 4:22:45]: You bear with me just one minute. I'm trying to uh [4:22:46, 4:22:49]: Locate the uh updated taser quote. [4:22:49, 4:22:50]: Okay. [4:22:52, 4:23:08]: And I will say I appreciate you all adding this to the agenda. Uh we just recently got the quote from the uh vendor. And uh the reason we wanted to add this is because the price goes up by 10.7% for 2022. So we wanted to take advantage of this year's pricing. It's gonna save us about$37,000. [4:23:10, 4:23:12]: Okay, great. Appreciate that. [4:23:30, 4:23:31]: Okay. [4:23:31, 4:23:33]: Okay, so before you is the uh [4:23:33, 4:23:35]: Quote for um [4:23:36, 4:23:38]: The Tasers that the chief just spoke about. [4:23:39, 4:23:47]: Uh it is for a a total of 50. Uh I'm sorry, that's a body camera. Excuse me, just wanna [4:24:05, 4:24:08]: You can see your documents in your recent is the third. [4:24:09, 4:24:12]: The third document in your file. [4:24:13, 4:24:16]: It says Stockbridge Police Department Taser seven quote. [4:24:16, 4:24:18]: Is that what you're trying to show us? [4:24:19, 4:24:21]: Yes, ma'am, I'm trying to get back to that one. [4:24:28, 4:24:34]: Commander Godfrey, if you can't get it pulled up, I can I can pull it up here. I've got it queued on my end if you're having a hard time finding it. [4:24:35, 4:24:37]: Yes, sir, it's not pulling up for some reason. [4:24:37, 4:24:41]: Okay, so why don't you stop sharing your screen and I'll pull this up. Okay. [4:24:53, 4:24:54]: Did it stop? [4:24:54, 4:24:56]: No. No, your screen's still low. Okay. [4:25:09, 4:25:11]: It's not releasing for some reason. [4:25:32, 4:25:34]: Are there okay, there we go. [4:25:34, 4:25:36]: There we go. All right. [4:25:38, 4:25:40]: Let me see here. Council, can you see my screen? [4:25:41, 4:25:42]: Yes, we can, sir. [4:25:42, 4:25:47]: Okay. So I'll go down here and this is the correct uh this is the correct quote. [4:25:52, 4:25:57]: Can you zoom into that? I can't read that. Please. [4:26:00, 4:26:01]: Thank you. [4:26:05, 4:26:07]: Who who wants to explain this, please? [4:26:08, 4:26:11]: Chief, can you go down a little uh next page, please? [4:26:14, 4:26:34]: So this is for 56 um taser X7s, which is the latest uh taser uh that has been released by Axon. Uh if you don't know, uh Taser is a uh less lethal option. Um what this device is is to do is when deployed, is just [4:26:33, 4:26:53]: Just simply incapacitate the individual without causing permanent harm. This is a situation where we've all seen the negativity associated with tasers over the years. But one of the criteria that we're being [4:26:53, 4:26:59]: that we're going to implement is number one, uh the taser color itself is going to be yellow. [4:26:59, 4:27:19]: Uh other departments have utilized a black and color uh taser, which unfortunately mirrors uh the same as a as a sidearm. It is also going to be required under policy to be a cross-draw. So in other words, if the officer's firearm is carried on the right side, uh he or she will be a force to do a cross draw. [4:27:19, 4:27:34]: in front of them and to the opposite side of the body to draw the taser. That becomes part of muscle memory and that forces them to be mindful of what they're drawing based on the circumstances provided. [4:27:34, 4:27:53]: Uh but again, this is also a five-year uh comprehensive term contract. Uh these tasers are under a complete warranty during that five-year period. Uh we are also uh that also comes with all the holsters associated to carry the the uh tasers within there. [4:27:54, 4:28:14]: Uh it comes with um cartridges, uh life cartridges, as well as training cartridges. Uh it is provided a training suit, which is referred to as the HALT suit, as well as rugged uh targets and target frames uh for practice and annual qualifications for that. It also includes five instructions. [4:28:14, 4:28:24]: instructor uh vouchers so that we can have personnel put through uh their instructor training class so that they can come back and train our own personnel. [4:28:28, 4:28:29]: Get on to the next page, sir. [4:28:36, 4:28:36]: Mm. [4:28:40, 4:28:54]: So with this new technology, what the cartridge is allowed to do is you can allow two separate cartridges to be carried within the device. So let's say you have two assailants. So you're able to deploy uh [4:28:54, 4:28:58]: the cartridge or the the prongs into one assailant. [4:28:58, 4:29:00]: And also into a separate assailant. [4:29:01, 4:29:18]: So you also have the capability of carrying long range and short range uh cartridges. So let's say you have one person that's six feet away, you will be able to deploy uh the short range cartridge and you may have another seal up that's 12 feet away. [4:29:18, 4:29:36]: So these are indicated by different color lights. When you turn the taser on, one is in red color and one is in green color to identify uh the differences of of the cartridges so that the officer knows through muscle memory and training of which one he or she is deploying. [4:29:42, 4:30:02]: Uh this system also includes docking stations. So the you'll be able to walk in and and and maintain uh fresh batteries uh for the tasers. Uh we'll be able to download so as a uh taser is deployed as part of the internal investigation for use of force we'll [4:30:02, 4:30:12]: be able to download that information into evidence.com to ensure the effectiveness of the taser and to make sure that the officer is within compliance of departmental policy. [4:30:18, 4:30:19]: You could get answer. [4:30:22, 4:30:25]: The rest of this is just a breakdown of the um [4:30:26, 4:30:29]: a breakdown of the pricing and I'm gonna have to flip the screen here for you, but [4:30:30, 4:30:31]: It just has the um [4:30:31, 4:30:33]: The cost, the total cost. [4:30:36, 4:30:38]: What is the funding source of this? [4:30:39, 4:30:39]: ARPA. [4:30:47, 4:30:50]: Okay, uh is that is it you're completed with your presentation? [4:30:53, 4:30:53]: Yes, sir. [4:30:53, 4:30:58]: Okay. Any questions, counsel you have for Commander Goffrey or Chief Tremor? [4:31:00, 4:31:02]: Any questions? Well go ahead, please. [4:31:02, 4:31:07]: Do you have a question? So this is a five year agreement, did you say? [4:31:08, 4:31:08]: Yes, ma'am. [4:31:10, 4:31:10]: Okay. [4:31:11, 4:31:15]: We're we're we're paying it up front. We're not we're not you you can [4:31:16, 4:31:18]: This is broken down to show if you were to you were to [4:31:18, 4:31:27]: uh enter into a a five year payment plan. And uh what we would like to do is just pay this up front because we would be responsible then. [4:31:27, 4:31:35]: for putting within our budget, you know, thirty-five thousand dollars a year um to to fund this. So we'd just rather pay for it up front for the five years. [4:31:36, 4:31:37]: Um [4:31:38, 4:31:41]: And it's thirty five thousand dollars per year. [4:31:41, 4:31:42]: Mm-hmm. [4:31:48, 4:31:49]: So we just approved the budget. [4:31:50, 4:31:52]: For twenty twenty two. [4:31:54, 4:31:55]: D this is Arbor Funds, I thought. [4:31:56, 4:31:56]: Oh. [4:31:56, 4:31:57]: It is. [4:31:57, 4:31:59]: Gotcha. Thank you. Thank you. [4:32:00, 4:32:00]: Um [4:32:05, 4:32:09]: Is this also another state funded or state piggyback contract? [4:32:09, 4:32:13]: Yes, ma'am, because this is a product of axon. [4:32:13, 4:32:16]: It all falls under the umbrella of the under the state contract. [4:32:16, 4:32:17]: Thank you. [4:32:19, 4:32:28]: And for and furthermore, there's a sole source that accompanies this as well. This is proprietary technology, nobody else has it, so we can't acquire it from any place else. Right. Thank you for that too. [4:32:29, 4:32:29]: Yeah. [4:32:30, 4:32:31]: Any other questions, Council? [4:32:34, 4:32:37]: If no other questions, I need a motion to accept this proposal, please. [4:32:40, 4:32:41]: Is there a motion? [4:32:42, 4:32:42]: Promo. [4:32:43, 4:32:45]: Is there a second? Mr. Alzheimer's, is there a second? [4:32:47, 4:32:49]: Miss Barber seconds the motion. [4:32:50, 4:32:51]: All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [4:32:52, 4:32:52]: Yeah. [4:32:52, 4:32:55]: Mayor Ford, I do have one more question. [4:32:55, 4:32:57]: Okay, okay. What's your question, please? [4:32:59, 4:33:00]: The total cost is [4:33:00, 4:33:01]: The [4:33:01, 4:33:04]: One hundred and seventy six thousand one ninety eight. [4:33:04, 4:33:05]: Thirty nine, correct. [4:33:06, 4:33:06]: Thank you. [4:33:07, 4:33:08]: Okay. [4:33:08, 4:33:13]: I'm ready to vote. Are any other questions? And if not, all in favor of motion, please indicate. [4:33:15, 4:33:30]: Okay. Okay. Uh okay, I have the three. It passes with three. And uh Mr. Blount did not uh vote on that one as well. Okay, thank you for that. And I'm sorry. [4:33:31, 4:33:34]: I'll I'll in the next one actually is uh dealing with um [4:33:35, 4:33:38]: Funding, ARPA funding for the employees in in reference to um [4:33:39, 4:33:50]: the employees and uh some type of pay incentive which was actually brought forward uh earlier uh today by uh mr Blount. Um mr. Blount are you available? [4:33:55, 4:34:13]: All right, uh Okay, Council, what are your desires here? You uh we we brought this forward for discussion purposes. Yes, to okay, you want to take charge of this mayorpotin? What do I what do you want to say, sir? Yeah, I think this is a very worth I'm sorry, I'm back in here. I'm sorry. Forget it. Okay. Hi Ms. Blount. [4:34:14, 4:34:14]: That's great. [4:34:15, 4:34:21]: We're we're talk we're talking in reference to the item you brought forward about additional funding, upper funding for the employees. [4:34:23, 4:34:25]: You wanted to just have lead this discussion? [4:34:30, 4:34:34]: Mayor Ford, would you ask um Commander Godfrey to remove his document? [4:34:35, 4:34:36]: Yep, he heard you. Um [4:34:37, 4:34:41]: Actually I thought uh was that the chief chief that was you did okay, thank you. There you go. [4:34:43, 4:34:44]: There's a Blount. [4:34:45, 4:34:45]: Yes, sir. [4:34:46, 4:34:48]: Yeah, I'm sorry, forgive me, may I [4:34:48, 4:34:53]: was in the middle of something real. Yeah, the the I've seen uh several cities and um [4:34:53, 4:35:01]: And I talked to several council members of different cities, and uh and as you all have probably seen in the news that they [4:35:01, 4:35:04]: With the uh discussions going on with the county. [4:35:05, 4:35:09]: I think that with what's going on with uh this pandemic and the [4:35:10, 4:35:11]: Hardships, a lot of the um [4:35:13, 4:35:24]: uh citizens the stop bridge is taken. I think that one of the steps that we could show our employees is that uh we can give an incentive. Uh some of the cities are given incentives for vaccinations, but [4:35:25, 4:35:32]: When you talk about uh five hundred dollars a sending from opera funds to those uh to the employees for however the council deems to do it. [4:35:33, 4:35:53]: uh and 250 for uh part-time employees, however we deem to do it, uh it's it's it becomes a fraction of a portion of what we're getting in APA funds. And I think it gives it sings a signal to those uh uh all of our employees to not only get vaccinated but you know to stand with the city as we [4:35:53, 4:36:01]: We stay with them throughout all this that that that they're endured. I know the gas prices are high. Uh we're right here at the holiday season. I just think uh [4:36:01, 4:36:10]: a lot of expenses that that they incurred have ha are incurred and I and I agree with uh Mr. Alexander that we was uh blessed to to not have to lay anybody off. [4:36:11, 4:36:16]: City of Stockbury has really been blessed in those areas and I just thought that this would be something that we could. [4:36:16, 4:36:29]: Knowing that that we're getting over$11 million in and my understanding that we have a uh we're applying for even more funding is that this would be just a small portion to us uh to our employees would be which would be less than uh [4:36:30, 4:36:33]: Fifty thousand less than fifty thousand dollars because we uh [4:36:33, 4:36:41]: Uh only have about eighty something uh employees in the total. So I just something I just want to uh kind of go over with the uh c my colleagues and see what they thought about it. [4:36:42, 4:36:47]: All right. Well uh actually Councilman Barber raised her hand initially. Now you have some comments, ma'am? [4:36:50, 4:36:55]: Yes, I do support um tasking um [4:36:55, 4:36:58]: Staff with doing the research on [4:36:58, 4:37:04]: um offering an incentive for uh vaccinations or booster shots. [4:37:04, 4:37:12]: ARPA funda it ARPA funding is specific. Um the parameters in which we can use it. [4:37:13, 4:37:19]: specific. So I'm not sure that funding source um will cover um [4:37:20, 4:37:26]: Cost of living increase as Councilman Blount mentioned, but certainly we can use it. [4:37:26, 4:37:27]: To [4:37:27, 4:37:28]: Um [4:37:28, 4:37:31]: kind of encourage staff to [4:37:31, 4:37:33]: of being vaccinated. [4:37:33, 4:37:35]: And get their boosters. [4:37:36, 4:37:36]: So that's the question. [4:37:37, 4:37:39]: Will you throw Cafe on Bob? [4:37:39, 4:37:43]: And and in the correction, I'm not saying to cover cost of living. It would just be an ex [4:37:44, 4:37:47]: I'm not finished. Will you finish? No, I'm not finished. I'm sorry, forgive me. [4:37:47, 4:37:48]: Thank you. [4:37:48, 4:37:53]: Um so I wanted to ask Tess the attorney's names Wheeler. [4:37:53, 4:38:00]: Um, we're doing the research around the use of ARPA and how we can implement um [4:38:02, 4:38:14]: what is necessary to promote vaccination with our employees for those that um have not been vaccinated, an incentive that we can offer using ARPA funding. [4:38:14, 4:38:15]: Um but for [4:38:16, 4:38:17]: Those who [4:38:17, 4:38:23]: have no intentions of getting uh vaccinated and don't want to get vaccinated for whatever reason. [4:38:23, 4:38:29]: Um, that's fine, but to give a cost of living increase, we would have to use general fund for that. [4:38:29, 4:38:30]: Um we can't [4:38:31, 4:38:34]: Unless they are essential. [4:38:34, 4:38:40]: employees but a cost of living increase we'd have to use general fund. I just [4:38:40, 4:38:55]: I want us to be clear on how we're using this and that it is legal. So if Attorney Berry and Attorney Washington can speak to the guidelines surrounding the use of ARPA funding, I appreciate it. [4:38:56, 4:38:56]: Yeah. [4:38:56, 4:39:02]: But I w I want to be clear on what what what I'm talking about though. I'm not talking [4:39:02, 4:39:05]: Cost of living has nothing to do with this. [4:39:05, 4:39:07]: So I just want to make that clear with the [4:39:07, 4:39:27]: The the the increased cost of living that we increase that we've been given has nothing to do with this incentive that we're giving our employees. Uh it has nothing to do with that. And when I talk to um people from other cities that are doing this, uh it seems to be successful, it seems to boost the morale in the city uh among [4:39:27, 4:39:45]: the uh staffs and and and it just it just it becomes something that we can give and if if the city uh attorneys say something differently then then so be it but i'm seeing it being done in other cities in fact uh it's it's the discrepancy even today was on the news [4:39:45, 4:39:59]: uh whether they're gonna give it to all the employees or some of the employees, even with the county today. Uh they uh I don't know if you guys saw that today on the news that was out there, uh, but but I just think it's a good something good for us to do for the for the uh employees. [4:39:59, 4:40:05]: Thank you. Um Mr. Washington, you were unmuted there for a brief moment. Do you have a comment to this, sir? [4:40:07, 4:40:11]: No, sir, Your Honor, we would just need to research this and write a member of the council about it. [4:40:12, 4:40:14]: Okay. Deborah Tem go ahead, please. [4:40:15, 4:40:30]: Yeah, I'm certainly in support of doing uh something uh for the employees uh with the funding that has come in with the city. But again, you know, we've done something. We haven't laid off anybody, we maintain uh a full staff. [4:40:31, 4:40:33]: Uh, we uh provided [4:40:33, 4:40:37]: Uh some um you know, making sure that folks are making [4:40:37, 4:40:42]: And we passed fifteen dollars an hour to move to make sure that everybody was had a livable wage. [4:40:42, 4:40:45]: I just wanna make sure two things that um [4:40:45, 4:40:47]: The attorneys are test with [4:40:47, 4:40:50]: Of course, I'm certainly gonna be supportive of [4:40:51, 4:40:59]: and a a a a a leveled approach. If we decide it's legal to give a um [4:41:00, 4:41:12]: a bonus or a uh increase or this uh one-time payment to employees there should be levels. Someone's that sought to get vaccinated. [4:41:12, 4:41:16]: should get a a a higher or different amount. [4:41:16, 4:41:20]: because they've done, they've taken the additional step. [4:41:20, 4:41:21]: In order to [4:41:21, 4:41:26]: uh protect themselves against the virus. Even there may be three tiers, two. [4:41:27, 4:41:28]: If somebody [4:41:28, 4:41:30]: Is fully vaccinated. [4:41:30, 4:41:34]: Somebody is fully vaccinated with a booster. [4:41:34, 4:41:45]: or somebody is vaccinated or somebody is not vaccinated at all. There should be different tiers to that because again, the level what we're looking at right now is [4:41:45, 4:41:49]: The definition of fully vaccinated is going to change. [4:41:49, 4:42:00]: Because if you haven't got your booster in a few months, you're not gonna be fully vaccinated anymore when the CDC changes the guideline. So to me, I like to see that tiered approach. [4:42:01, 4:42:06]: To where we have uh three tiers. The the top the the top tier is [4:42:07, 4:42:11]: A fully vaccinated boosted. The second steer is [4:42:11, 4:42:19]: You know, you got your two shots or your one shot. And then the third tier is no, you're not vaccinated at all, if that's uh possible. Because [4:42:20, 4:42:26]: You know, I think it's everybody endured and well somebody for religious reasons did not get [4:42:27, 4:42:28]: The vaccine. [4:42:29, 4:42:30]: And they then [4:42:30, 4:42:32]: Did wear a mask. [4:42:32, 4:42:33]: To protect themselves. [4:42:34, 4:42:36]: Or they did go through regular testing. [4:42:36, 4:42:38]: And they took precautions. [4:42:38, 4:42:40]: Then that's worthy of something. [4:42:40, 4:42:43]: Not a zero. So I'm okay with. [4:42:43, 4:42:48]: a tiered approach to that. And I think I would like for the attorneys to look at that and to see what [4:42:49, 4:42:51]: uh uh uh other cities around us are doing. [4:42:53, 4:42:54]: Okay, Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [4:42:57, 4:43:17]: Man, I think uh Mr. Alexander, I mean, that's a good point. And that was a part of my thinking also that we we do something for every employee across the board. Uh, because I think that when we put in uh safety guidelines, I think everybody was adhering to them. Uh and and so to promote, not only to promote this uh uh [4:43:17, 4:43:36]: that we're with our employees, but I I I'm I'm for uh uh I don't know three tier or two-tier vaccinated, not vaccinated, uh approach or but but uh I'm a I'm just uh for whatever we decide to do. I just think that it you know whatever we do, we just need to do something at this point. And I think it will be a uh [4:43:37, 4:43:38]: Um [4:43:39, 4:43:59]: you know, it will be a good incentive for us to do this at this time with the h posit the position we are in with these uh upper funds. Uh if the attorney see the attorneys can look at several cities, I think that uh uh not McDonald's I know that uh Douglasville is doing it. Um I think s uh I think Sandy Spring [4:43:59, 4:44:18]: are doing several cities are doing it. And when I looked it up, and but I've gotten a call from from a couple of cities and they told me about the other cities also. So uh however we're gonna do it, I'm I'm I'm I'm fine with the tiers or however we do it. I just think that we need to, you know, it's something that we uh we should be doing as a as a whole. [4:44:19, 4:44:21]: Ms. Barber, you have another comment, please? [4:44:23, 4:44:30]: really really quick um I like for the attorney to really look into the discrimination um [4:44:30, 4:44:35]: part of this because we don't want those who for whatever reason [4:44:35, 4:44:37]: don't want to be vaccinated. [4:44:38, 4:44:38]: Um [4:44:39, 4:44:40]: Now [4:44:42, 4:45:01]: Now you're discriminating against them. They may feel as though they're entitled to the same amount as everyone else. So I really want the attorneys to speak to that aspect of it. Of course, we want to avoid as many lawsuits as possible, um, just so that we understand, so that I understand. [4:45:02, 4:45:02]: That [4:45:03, 4:45:04]: There are no potential. [4:45:05, 4:45:10]: uh with discrimination when we do this tier approach. That's all. But I support it. I do. [4:45:11, 4:45:27]: Yep, Mayor, one of the things one of the things I was told is that this uh with the approach that uh one of those kind of came up similar to what Mr. Alexander was saying. And what they were saying is that this is no different than incentive that insurance comes to give those that [4:45:28, 4:45:45]: that would get vaccinated, they you know, you save on insurance. There's always reward for people taking an extra step for precautions. Always an award uh re award for that. And it doesn't alleviate the others. It only gives incentive to those that are took taking that extra step. [4:45:46, 4:45:56]: These are funds that's being used. Um, ARPA funds is what you're proposing that we use. So the guidelines are a bit different than they would be for [4:45:57, 4:46:00]: a healthcare provider of some sort. [4:46:01, 4:46:02]: We'll go ahead and [4:46:02, 4:46:08]: And uh in in regards to that line of speaking that Mr. Blount was referring to. [4:46:09, 4:46:17]: That's something that Miss Wheeler needs to bring back to us and uh we need to discuss as a council is [4:46:17, 4:46:21]: Is the how is the insur how are the insurers looking at that? [4:46:22, 4:46:42]: If an employee is fully vaccinated or his employee is not fully vaccinated. Is there a difference in our cost? Because we as a council have absorbed the cost where many employers have not, we have absorbed the cost year after year after year at at our at the city's expense. [4:46:42, 4:47:01]: So uh we need to look at is the insurance company gonna be passing on to us the cost of employees not getting vaccinated? So maybe Ms. Wheeler might be able to bring that information back to us and to see what that looks like and that might help us in making this decision as well. [4:47:01, 4:47:06]: On that note, Miss Willard, is there anything you can add at this point or is there additional research you have to do? [4:47:13, 4:47:14]: Miss Wheeler? [4:47:18, 4:47:30]: All right. So otherwise uh we're looking for uh Mr. Blount, are you looking for a motion? Are you too for we had discussion? Uh the attorneys obviously have heard all this, uh so I mean they can do the additional research, but uh uh how do how do you want to proceed with this? [4:47:32, 4:47:52]: Well, I think at this point, Mayor, uh the um we we've done it as a discussion. So until until we get uh some information back as soon as we can, I just want to know if if we can make a decision through a consensus on uh through email if we have to, or do we have to come before the council to make [4:47:52, 4:48:02]: those this do we have to come and make a vote of it out front? Uh uh either um Mr. Washington, could we do a consensus on on those expenditures through email? [4:48:05, 4:48:07]: I would think that it would need to be a boat take you. [4:48:08, 4:48:16]: Well then I know we gotta never gotta be specific to the there gotta be specifics of the policy that you want on the executive side to be implemented. [4:48:18, 4:48:32]: Okay, well if if my initial if my initial vote was about if my initial vote was five hundred dollars, two fifty for uh the unvaccinated em uh employees and and seven for uh the uh boosters. [4:48:32, 4:48:36]: Uh is that on the level that any of any of my colleagues was thinking of? [4:48:39, 4:48:40]: Any comments on that? [4:48:40, 4:48:41]: Mm-hmm. [4:48:41, 4:48:42]: Yes, sir. [4:48:42, 4:48:44]: Let's just do the research. [4:48:45, 4:48:54]: Let's do the research as we've discussed. Okay. That's why I asked the question. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just saying I'm just my I muted myself by mistake. Go ahead. Okay. [4:48:54, 4:49:06]: Yeah, so I'm I'm that's why I was thinking that the the the attorneys have heard this are thinking about doing some research and then come back with some information and then make a dis a final decision based on the research and make sure that we're legal across the board and what we want to implement. [4:49:06, 4:49:25]: Yeah, I'm I'm I'm fine with that. I'm fine. Yeah. I think we have a this a simple uh general consensus on that aspect. So um our attorneys have heard that and uh in this aspect. So uh I would imagine that uh maybe within the next thirty days or less you'll be able to give us some input on that. Is that proper? [4:49:26, 4:49:29]: That's what I was just trying to determine. So within the thirty days. Okay. Yes, yes, sir. [4:49:30, 4:49:30]: Yes, sir. [4:49:31, 4:49:31]: Okay. [4:49:32, 4:49:39]: On that note, uh I will go to uh my comments. And since we were talking about incentives and talking about uh [4:49:39, 4:49:41]: Yes, sir. Yes, sir. [4:49:41, 4:49:44]: Can we I don't think we need thirty days for that. [4:49:44, 4:49:46]: Can we have it by the next next meeting? [4:49:47, 4:49:55]: I mean, I we don't need 30 days. Well, in all actuality, our next meeting, well, here's the thing: our next meeting uh won't be until 10 January unless something special happens. [4:49:57, 4:50:07]: That's that's our next meeting. This is the last meeting of the of the calendar year. Well, I will talk about something in just a bit in my comments that's going to cause a special call meeting, but uh but a special call meetings for a specific purpose. [4:50:07, 4:50:15]: Yeah, but I don't think we need thirty days to find to find our weekend. Okay, but but our n but our next next meeting is not to January tenth, sir. [4:50:17, 4:50:27]: Oh okay. Well that's less than thirty days what I'm saying. Well, okay. It's it's okay, it's okay, good point. It's uh say three weeks. I guess in sense when you look at that. Three weeks, all right. [4:50:27, 4:50:43]: So comments, we're talking about uh the the uh public health type issues here, and as you well well know, Omicron, this virus, is starting to take charge and uh do damage over the delta. It's it's more prominent now. And uh in a conversation that uh [4:50:43, 4:50:45]: The public the uh Piemont Henry. [4:50:46, 4:50:52]: has had uh Dr. Henson there, the Pima Henry is getting ready for what they call the fifth surge. [4:50:53, 4:50:57]: And uh other people have talked about in the media discussing about another surge. [4:50:57, 4:51:00]: And Omicron is proven to be that that part of the third. So [4:51:01, 4:51:05]: We're in the Christmas season, gonna come to New Year's and swing around to the new calendar year. [4:51:05, 4:51:25]: So we got to prepare for this. And I will tell you, ladies and gentlemen, I I today, along with my spouse, got my booster shot for Mederma. And it it it I'll tell you what, it didn't hurt. It was quick, simple. I feel fine. I've been in this meeting all evening. I feel fine. So what it amounts to is that you need to get your vaccination, you need to get your booster shot. If you [4:51:25, 4:51:30]: haven't been tested to get tested and then get a shot at the vaccination anyway. That's the only way we're gonna beat this. [4:51:31, 4:51:51]: Omicron is coming. OMA not coming. Omicron is here. So and so otherwise it's gonna dictate how we go forward with our next calendar year in reference to how we we deal with ourselves, with our meetings, with our social events, uh, with our city activities, things of that nature. So we just gotta be properly prepared. And I'm gonna hope that the entire council and the staff that's here. [4:51:50, 4:51:58]: Among me right now, have had your vaccinations, have your boosters, please get it. And for citizens out there, you need to do that. [4:51:58, 4:52:01]: C D C guidance says sixteen age or up [4:52:01, 4:52:08]: You are qualifier for a booster, free of charge. I want the public today free of charge to do this. Set an appointment and go. [4:52:08, 4:52:28]: All right, public health department and Madonna. Uh you can set an appointment and they'll give you Madurma, a Pfizer, shots, and booster to Public Health Department as well. It's 135 Henry Parkway. And that number is 470-661-0005. Once again, 470-661-0005. [4:52:28, 4:52:28]: Five. [4:52:30, 4:52:35]: COVID nineteen testing on a continued basis, Monday through Friday, nine AM to three PM. [4:52:35, 4:52:49]: Red Hawk Field at 143 Henry Parkway. All right. They're Monday to Friday, 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. Free of Charge, go get tested. And then once you get tested and you get the results of that, if it's negative, obviously go get vaccinated and get your booster. [4:52:50, 4:53:10]: Uh the public health department uh once again at 135 Henry Parkway has walk-ins actually, a walk-in basis from 9 to 1130 andor 1 to 230 during the course of the week. Uh offices is closed at 5 p.m. and are open five days a week. Once again, that number is 470-661-000. [4:53:09, 4:53:11]: zero five. [4:53:11, 4:53:15]: And uh to go to public health department to and get a vaccination there. [4:53:15, 4:53:35]: Um and of course you can what the what they're told now you can cross over from a derma and pfizer for the boosters only. Mederma and Pfizer. If you had a Mederma um or Pfizer vaccination and you want to get a boot when you get a booster, you can take each other's boosters. So you can cross over once you get the full vaccination from a derma or pfizer. [4:53:35, 4:53:36]: Take the other booster. [4:53:36, 4:53:38]: That'll be helpful. It is you can still do it. [4:53:39, 4:53:51]: And because once you start a particular series on a Pfizer phase one and two, you've got to come, you gotta complete it. Moderma phase one and two, gotta complete it. And then you can take a different booster as well. You can legally do that. [4:53:52, 4:54:02]: Okay, five years uh individuals are five years old or older can take the vaccination, either moderma or phi uh pfizer. So kids five years or older. [4:54:02, 4:54:08]: can take the vaccination if of Mederma and Pfizer. So please do so. The young folks need to they need the young folks around. We need them well. [4:54:09, 4:54:12]: If you are ages five to fifteen. [4:54:12, 4:54:32]: And you can't take the booster, uh you can't take the booster until it's approved by CDC and the CDC has not uh approved the booster for ages five to fifteen. You can take the vaccination, but you can't take the booster uh uh yet if you're from five age five to fifteen. Okay, but if you're course a sixteen-year-old, you can't take the booster necessary. [4:54:32, 4:54:52]: So you always got to make sure that you go and you have the right permission from your doctors and your and to take all these proper shots in this aspect. Another good news story, kind of mentioned earlier tonight that uh we have we have selected, well, let's put it this way: we have the sole finalist, Frederick Gardner. Uh the [4:54:52, 4:55:00]: Be our next city manager. And uh, we have to wait 14 days before we have an official meeting to officially appoint him by a vote publicly. [4:55:01, 4:55:09]: And so that 14-day period started on Saturday. The actual 14-day period by law, by Georgia law, ends believing on the 31st of this year. [4:55:09, 4:55:29]: So sometime, uh Mr. Blount, regular meetings on January 10th, but sometime here before that regular meeting, we will have to have a special call meeting to formally appoint the next city manager, okay, after the 14-day period by virtue of law. So we look forward to that. We'll have to figure out when that day will be and that aspect. And um [4:55:29, 4:55:35]: On that note, I am going to go into the upcoming meetings and announcements. [4:55:35, 4:55:55]: City Council meeting uh and swearing in for in the ceremony. For the ceremony, the second Monday of each month is our next city council meeting. So the swearing in ceremony for myself and uh councilman Thomas and Councilwoman um uh Gantt will be January 10th. Location to be determined. So we have to figure that out based on what's going on in our environment. [4:55:55, 4:55:55]: [17756.1, 17771.4]: New Council meeting, 5.30 p.m., second Wednesday of each month in Levi Meeting Room and City Hall for January, says January 12th on that date. The Main Street Advisory Board meeting second Friday of each month, 9 a.m. by way of Zoom, January 14th. [4:56:12, 4:56:32]: New Council Advisory Committee meeting, 6 30 p.m., third Tuesday of each month. Patrick Harry Meeting Room in the City Hall on January 18th. Downtown Development Authority, 6 p.m. by way of Zoom. Their next meeting, third Tuesday of each month on January 18th. City Council work session meeting last Tuesday of each month. And this time it's going to be January 25th. [4:56:31, 4:56:49]: because we go to Cities United on the 21st to the 24th of January. And so our work session will be on January 25th. The planning commission meeting fourth Tuesday each month at 630 by way of Zoom. And that's be February 24th. [4:56:50, 4:57:10]: Uh please join Councilman Councilwoman Barber at the Eagles Land Dance Center for free Zuma Saturdays at 8 a.m. Uh at 625 Red Oak Road in Stockbridge. And then uh I have here a note says a continuous salute to veterans. Please forward your pictures of veterans, including name, brant, branch, and [4:57:10, 4:57:30]: rank and years of service to Councilman Thomas in this aspect. You present uh now I'm I'm assuming this is still ongoing, Mr. Thomas, that uh you want to have that uh continued information about the veterans to honor them. Okay, good deal. So so veterans or individuals that support veterans submit everything to uh Z Pearson at City of [4:57:29, 4:57:49]: That's Miss Uh Zenobia Pearson will receive that. And uh and actually I have the the my monthly Meet the Mayor, the voice your questions and concerns is Tuesday, uh January 25th, will be the next time we do that, 10 a.m. to noon. And you will call Ms. Zenovia Pearson to [4:57:49, 4:57:55]: set an appointment schedule appointment for that day is 770-389-7900. [4:57:55, 4:57:56]: Extension two forty eight. [4:57:57, 4:58:02]: And I want to say to everybody, to the council, to the citizens, to the staff, Merry Christmas, happy holidays. [4:58:02, 4:58:07]: Uh happy Cozana uh uh Kozwana. I can't even pronounce it right, shame on me. [4:58:07, 4:58:08]: Yeah, yeah. [4:58:08, 4:58:09]: Excuse me. [4:58:10, 4:58:11]: Hanukkah. [4:58:11, 4:58:27]: Hanukkah, Hanukkah too, absolutely. And happy new year. Uh Kozan uh Kowana. Kwanzaa. Kwanza, excuse me. I should know that. Kwanza. And okay, anyway. Uh in that aspect. And if my understanding, uh [4:58:28, 4:58:36]: That we actually have an executive session. If we when you get in a execut session, the attorneys have something they need to discuss with us. If we if we want to go in a executive session, I need a motion to do so. [4:58:38, 4:58:40]: Is there a motion to go to the second session? [4:58:40, 4:58:41]: We're looking [4:58:42, 4:58:43]: So is there [4:58:44, 4:58:45]: I'll ask the attorneys. [4:58:46, 4:58:49]: Is there anything that the council needs to consider in executive session? [4:58:52, 4:58:54]: Yes. One quick matter. [4:58:55, 4:59:02]: Therefore, I make a motion to go into an executive session for personnel, litigation, and real estate matters. [4:59:02, 4:59:03]: Okay, zero second. [4:59:04, 4:59:05]: Clear. [4:59:05, 4:59:07]: All right. All in favor, please indicate. [4:59:09, 4:59:23]: Okay, we're going to zygo session. So I'm gonna need a separate link for everybody and to go to zygo session uh in this aspect. Okay. Can we take a short yes you take a short, you take a break and I'll see you by within 10 minutes. And so you'll see each other in 10 minutes. [4:59:25, 4:59:26]: Okay, thank you. [4:59:27, 4:59:30]: Please send those uh send those links, please. [5:00:18, 5:00:19]: Okay. [5:00:38, 5:00:39]: I'm sorry. [5:01:45, 5:01:46]: Okay, [5:05:11, 5:05:26]: Okay, Vanessa. Okay, you're back. I'm sorry, I was just trying to call you. I I hung up. So that's me hang probably hanging up on you. That was I for it. That was oh that was you. Okay. Then let me okay. I'm sorry. I thought that was her. All right. [5:05:48, 5:05:50]: Oh, there we go. There she's back. Okay. [5:05:50, 5:06:02]: All right, so we actually have a quorum. Okay. So uh what I like to do is I like to have a uh motion to uh end executive session. [5:06:06, 5:06:12]: Motion there. So move. Mr. Thomas, so no, so moves. Ms. Barber, second that. Okay. All in favor, please indicate. [5:06:13, 5:06:19]: All right. Okay, good. Now I need a motion to reconvene our uh city council work session. [5:06:19, 5:06:20]: Don't go. [5:06:20, 5:06:30]: Okay, m again, Mr. Thomas moved again. Mayor uh councilman uh councilwoman barber, second that. Okay. All right. All in favor, please indicate. [5:06:31, 5:06:31]: Uh [5:06:31, 5:06:36]: Okay. All right. Now now I need a motion to end our city council work session. [5:06:37, 5:06:39]: Don't move. All right, Mr. Thomas. [5:06:39, 5:06:48]: Oh Mayor Ford, do you need to acknowledge I'm sorry, excuse me, you're right. So sorry. We have nothing to report in reference to our executive sessions this time for the public. [5:06:49, 5:07:05]: Okay, Mr. Thomas, you made the motion. The second. Yes, ma'am. This yeah, I didn't have one thing. When I announced the planning commission meetings, I made the mistake of saying six o'clock. Their meetings are actually at 6 30. I just wanted to create. Okay. Document is correct. I just misspoke. [5:07:06, 5:07:11]: Okay, no problem. Things like that happen from time to time. All right. You're human. All righty. [5:07:11, 5:07:16]: I check it out. All right. Motion has been made by Mr. Thomas to end the end our meeting. Is there a second? [5:07:17, 5:07:20]: Second. Okay. Mayor Pro Tem second that all in favor, please indicate. [5:07:21, 5:07:24]: Aye. Okay, good deal. Let's see now. [5:07:25, 5:07:35]: in this aspect. Three of you. It's unanimous in that aspect. That's all we need. Ms. Washington, we're out of here. Good night, everybody. Good night. Good night. Merry Christmas, everybody. Merry Christmas. Happy Merry Christmas.

--- title: Planning Commission Meeting date: 2021-12-16 source: 2021-12-16_Planning_Commission_Meeting.wav --- [0:04:47, 0:04:48]: Good evening to all. [0:04:48, 0:04:49]: Hello. [0:04:51, 0:04:52]: Hello and good evening. [0:04:53, 0:04:54]: Hello. [0:04:54, 0:04:57]: Oh, wonder if you could hear me. Well, yes. [0:04:57, 0:04:58]: Pardon me? [0:04:58, 0:04:59]: Hello. [0:05:00, 0:05:01]: How are you, Linda? [0:05:01, 0:05:02]: Yeah, good evening. [0:05:03, 0:05:04]: Mr. Thibodeau. [0:05:05, 0:05:07]: Yes, sir. How can I help you? [0:05:08, 0:05:08]: Yeah. [0:05:09, 0:05:10]: Attend this meeting. [0:05:13, 0:05:14]: Ms. Nelson? [0:05:15, 0:05:17]: Hello, how are you? [0:05:20, 0:05:21]: Outstanding. [0:05:23, 0:05:26]: You ready for Christmas with your grandchildren? [0:05:27, 0:05:29]: Yeah, yeah, you're right. [0:05:30, 0:05:31]: All right. [0:05:35, 0:05:37]: They put in all kind of last minute requests. [0:05:41, 0:05:44]: You know, they say money's falling off tree, go back there and pick some money off. [0:05:44, 0:05:45]: Can get this. [0:05:46, 0:05:47]: Right. [0:05:51, 0:05:52]: Mm-hmm. [0:05:54, 0:05:55]: Yep. [0:05:56, 0:05:58]: My first year with a grandchild. So that'll be interesting. [0:05:59, 0:06:00]: Oh yeah. [0:06:02, 0:06:04]: This is my first year with a grandchild. [0:06:05, 0:06:08]: Oh, congratulations. Thank you. [0:06:09, 0:06:11]: Mr. Wells, glad to see you join us. [0:06:18, 0:06:20]: How old is your grandchild? [0:06:21, 0:06:23]: А лил овер с севмос. [0:06:24, 0:06:27]: Oh, okay. Good deal. Christmas baby. [0:06:29, 0:06:30]: Yeah, that's the easy. [0:06:35, 0:06:37]: See, Mr. Horns has joined us. [0:06:38, 0:06:39]: Yeah. [0:06:40, 0:06:42]: Yeah, I can hear you now. So I see you joined us. [0:06:42, 0:06:43]: Oh yeah. [0:06:46, 0:06:48]: So who are we missing? We missing Dumas. [0:06:56, 0:06:57]: Yeah. [0:06:59, 0:07:00]: Miss Becca. [0:07:16, 0:07:18]: So we got one, two, three. [0:07:20, 0:07:21]: Four and six. [0:07:32, 0:07:35]: Everybody get a chance to go over the new bylaws. [0:07:38, 0:07:39]: Yes. [0:07:43, 0:07:45]: Good evening, planning commissioners. [0:07:46, 0:07:47]: Good evening, Miss Johnson. [0:07:50, 0:07:51]: Hello. [0:07:52, 0:07:53]: Oh yeah, don't tell you. [0:07:55, 0:07:56]: Outstanding. [0:07:57, 0:07:59]: Good to hear. Good to hear. [0:08:04, 0:08:05]: Well, six thirty. [0:08:09, 0:08:11]: Call the planning commission meeting to order. [0:08:15, 0:08:16]: Um [0:08:16, 0:08:16]: Yeah. [0:08:17, 0:08:19]: Mr. Horns, can you give us an invocation? [0:08:21, 0:08:23]: No, you know not been putting me on the spot like that. [0:08:25, 0:08:25]: Yeah. [0:08:27, 0:08:28]: Uh [0:08:29, 0:08:30]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [0:08:33, 0:08:34]: Yeah, bye bye here. [0:08:36, 0:08:38]: I should have no [0:08:39, 0:08:41]: Gat us to the night as we uh [0:08:41, 0:08:45]: through the city of the business of Stockbridge City of Stockbridge. [0:08:46, 0:08:50]: Let it lead us in the right direction on everything we decide to do. [0:08:51, 0:08:52]: Well you got to [0:08:53, 0:08:54]: Everybody have a [0:08:55, 0:08:56]: Safe rest of the week. [0:08:57, 0:08:57]: And [0:08:58, 0:09:02]: Amen. This is short for me, you know. I don't this ain't my thing. [0:09:03, 0:09:03]: Yeah. [0:09:03, 0:09:07]: Sorry to put you on the spot, but that's that's good enough. That's good enough. [0:09:08, 0:09:09]: Okay, um [0:09:10, 0:09:12]: I'll leave us in the pledge of allegiance and place your [0:09:15, 0:09:19]: Ah, pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. [0:09:20, 0:09:22]: And to the Republic which it stands. [0:09:23, 0:09:28]: One nation under God. Indivisible with liberty and justice for all. [0:09:30, 0:09:31]: Miss uh [0:09:32, 0:09:33]: Logan, can we get uh [0:09:33, 0:09:34]: A roll call? [0:09:35, 0:09:36]: Yes. [0:09:36, 0:09:38]: Ask you Adela. [0:09:38, 0:09:39]: Present. [0:09:40, 0:09:41]: Harold Double Doe. [0:09:42, 0:09:42]: Present. [0:09:44, 0:09:45]: Stanley Dumas. [0:09:49, 0:09:51]: Okay, uh Kathleen Nelson. [0:09:52, 0:09:52]: Present. [0:09:54, 0:09:55]: David Plancham. [0:09:56, 0:09:56]: Present [0:09:58, 0:09:59]: And Rodney Horns. [0:10:00, 0:10:00]: Present. [0:10:01, 0:10:03]: We have a quorum, Mr. Chairman. [0:10:04, 0:10:06]: Mr. Chairman, if we can also um add that. [0:10:07, 0:10:10]: If you will do a roll call for Mr. Dumas, he is now on the call. [0:10:11, 0:10:12]: He's on the call. [0:10:12, 0:10:13]: Yes, sir. [0:10:16, 0:10:17]: Miss um [0:10:18, 0:10:23]: And do we do a roll call for Mr. Dumas, please? Mr. Dumas, Stanley Dumas, are you present? [0:10:23, 0:10:24]: Present. [0:10:24, 0:10:25]: Thank you. [0:10:36, 0:10:40]: I have a motion to adopt the agenda, today's agenda. [0:10:43, 0:10:45]: I make a motion to adopt today's agenda. [0:10:46, 0:10:47]: Yeah, second second. [0:10:48, 0:10:49]: Who's second in that? [0:10:51, 0:10:53]: Well, I said second Harold. [0:10:53, 0:10:54]: Okay, so uh [0:10:55, 0:10:59]: Mr. Nelson, uh mo motion then Mr. Thibodeau second. [0:11:00, 0:11:01]: You got that, Miss Logan? [0:11:01, 0:11:02]: Yes. [0:11:02, 0:11:03]: Okay. [0:11:05, 0:11:07]: Okay, all in favor, let it be known by sign of aye. [0:11:08, 0:11:16]: Aye. Those opposed? Ayes have it. The motion is carried. Let us review uh the minutes from December the second. [0:11:32, 0:11:34]: There any changes to be made in the uh [0:11:35, 0:11:36]: The agenda from the second. [0:11:37, 0:11:38]: December second. [0:11:43, 0:11:44]: You bright eyed Mr. Doom's today. [0:11:47, 0:11:51]: Thank you, I'm glad you noticed. [0:11:53, 0:11:57]: Oh, any changes from the uh meeting from December 2nd? [0:12:00, 0:12:08]: Hearing none, um I have a motion to uh adopt the um December the second uh meetings minutes. [0:12:11, 0:12:15]: I'll make a motion to adopt the agenda from the December second. Um [0:12:16, 0:12:17]: Planning commission meeting. [0:12:18, 0:12:21]: Mr. Chairman, this is David Planchon. I'd second that. [0:12:22, 0:12:24]: Excuse me, that was the minutes, not the agenda. [0:12:24, 0:12:27]: That was the minutes from the second. From the second. [0:12:27, 0:12:30]: The minutes from the December second. I'm sorry. [0:12:31, 0:12:33]: And who s who seconds the motion? [0:12:34, 0:12:35]: Mr. Planchton. [0:12:35, 0:12:35]: Thank you. [0:12:37, 0:12:38]: Okay. [0:12:40, 0:12:41]: Okay. [0:12:43, 0:12:49]: Uh have we all had an opportunity to review the uh revised um planning commission bylaws? [0:12:49, 0:12:51]: Wait, wait a minute, was a vote taken? [0:12:53, 0:12:53]: Oh, I'm sorry. [0:12:54, 0:12:55]: Or was it? [0:12:55, 0:12:57]: All those people let it be known by the sign of by. [0:12:58, 0:13:00]: Uh those opposed. I seven. [0:13:01, 0:13:04]: The amendments from December second have been adopted. [0:13:06, 0:13:09]: removed and adopted. Um [0:13:10, 0:13:14]: Has everyone had an opportunity to re to review the revised planning commission bylaws? [0:13:17, 0:13:18]: Yes. Yes. [0:13:20, 0:13:24]: Yes. Any any changes or modifications or discussion on the bylaws? [0:13:34, 0:13:44]: hearing none that we have a motion to uh i'm sorry i'm sorry um chairman i i was trying to unmute um there is one um change i did want to [0:13:45, 0:13:52]: Bring to the attention of the board. Um Mr. Jumas um through his review brought to our attention there was a a statement. [0:13:52, 0:14:10]: within the bylaws as it pertains to um to election re-election of the chair and vice chair so under 2.1 um we had it states that the chair and vice chair [0:14:10, 0:14:30]: Uh each shall serve a term of one year or until the expiration of his or her term, whichever occurs first. However, the revision that you all agreed to was that the chair and the vice chair shall serve for one term of one year period. So that every January. [0:14:30, 0:14:33]: those two offices can be re-elected. [0:14:33, 0:14:37]: Um, excuse me, Ms. Johnson, that phrase has already been taken out. [0:14:37, 0:14:38]: In the revision. [0:14:39, 0:14:52]: We just wanted to clarify that, make sure that was clear. And I wanted to bring it up for the sake of Mr. Dumas, who alerted me to it. Just wanted to make sure that we were all clear on that, on that update. Thank you, Chair. [0:14:53, 0:14:54]: Okay. [0:14:55, 0:14:58]: Hearing none, I have a motion to adopt the bylaws, the new bylaws. [0:15:01, 0:15:04]: I make a motion to adopt the new bylaws. [0:15:05, 0:15:06]: Get a second. [0:15:07, 0:15:08]: Exactly. [0:15:08, 0:15:10]: Who's that seconding? Who who's the second? [0:15:11, 0:15:12]: Errol, give it up. [0:15:12, 0:15:13]: Mr. Tividal. [0:15:14, 0:15:18]: All right. It's been moved and second. All those in favor, let it be known by the sign of aye. [0:15:19, 0:15:27]: Aye. Those opposed? Ayes have it. The motion is carried and the um bylaws, uh the new bylaws are adopted. [0:15:30, 0:15:31]: Okay. [0:15:31, 0:15:34]: Okay, Miss Johnson. [0:15:35, 0:15:37]: We don't have any project updates, do we? [0:15:38, 0:15:58]: I don't have any any project updates from our meeting, from our last meeting. Just to tell you that we are continuing to get interest in the city and in particular in areas where we have interstate interchanges at Jodico and I-75, also at Hudson Bridge. [0:15:58, 0:16:18]: So there's a lot of a lot of moving parts. One thing I did want to uh let you all know is that the uh Mayor Ford and the council members have kind of started back with ribbon cuttings. And ribbon cuttings are held the um first and third Fridays. So we have [0:16:17, 0:16:21]: have one tomorrow at 10 a.m. Um [0:16:21, 0:16:26]: for one of our local businesses that actually came on board during the pandemic. [0:16:26, 0:16:39]: the the beginning of the pandemic because we're still in it. But um we wanted to just kind of keep you all aware of that. Also things are continuing to move forward with the Cultural Arts Center. [0:16:40, 0:17:00]: And um I think at the next meeting in January, we'll have a I have a more in-depth um detailed update for you all. But these projects that have been talked about uh by the council for you know over the last several months and you know years even prior to my coming on board um are are starting to come to fruition. So I just want to keep you alert. [0:17:00, 0:17:20]: of those things. And next year I'll be sending more information out to you all just quarterly, just so you kind of know what's going on in the department. You know what's going on kind of citywide as it pertains to zoning and projects and that sort of thing. So [0:17:20, 0:17:30]: So if you'll bear with me, I'll start pulling that information together for you in the new year so that you all can be abreast and reach out whenever you have any questions or comments. [0:17:31, 0:17:33]: But that but that is all I have. [0:17:34, 0:17:36]: Appreciate that. When did you say the ribbon cuttings were? [0:17:37, 0:17:46]: Uh the ribbon cuttings are typically the first and third Fridays at 10 a.m. Um I believe we have [0:17:48, 0:17:51]: One tomorrow. [0:17:53, 0:18:05]: And what I will do is I will force for one of our businesses here and I'll forward that to you all following this hearing, if you would like to attend. [0:18:08, 0:18:11]: Mr. Chairman, this is Dave Planchon with an unimportant question. [0:18:12, 0:18:13]: Go ahead, sir. [0:18:13, 0:18:24]: Does the planning commission have uh badges that we can wear if we go into public for ribbon cutting and that type of event for identification purposes? [0:18:25, 0:18:35]: Well what we can do, we can order those for you. Um we can get those ordered. I was hoping to to wait until um [0:18:35, 0:18:55]: The January meeting, once we elect the chairman and the vice chair. And I know those kind of switch out, but as those, as you guys kind of rotate, I want to get those to you all in the new year. We've kind of cut off our purchasing for the year, but we will most definitely get you all since we've got a final board and all the members. [0:18:55, 0:19:04]: members um we'll get some name name tags for you all, um, name badges. So we'll work on that and get that to you all in the in the new year. [0:19:06, 0:19:08]: Um may I speak, Mr. Chairman? [0:19:08, 0:19:09]: Sure. [0:19:09, 0:19:10]: Miss it too well. [0:19:12, 0:19:15]: Uh, they were also supposed to get us uh shirts. [0:19:16, 0:19:19]: For the uh planning commission also that never happened. [0:19:21, 0:19:27]: I don't know who they is, but I'm here now, so I'll be more than happy to get your sizes. [0:19:27, 0:19:28]: And um [0:19:29, 0:19:31]: We'll order the get those ordered at the same time. [0:19:32, 0:19:34]: Well that that would be that'll be fine. [0:19:34, 0:19:37]: I I I don't want to express names, but [0:19:37, 0:19:56]: I I'm just saying that what's supposed to happen. That's all. Okay. Well, on my watch, we will make sure that it does happen. So if you all don't mind, I'll be uh getting an email out to you guys. Uh Lendel send something out about getting your shirt sizes um and we'll have you try them on. [0:19:57, 0:20:10]: before we put your name on them, because we'll do a probably embroidery your name on those once we know it's a good fit for you. And um so you can have that when you're going to ruminate cuttings or going to new events, other events throughout the city. [0:20:10, 0:20:11]: and outside the city. [0:20:13, 0:20:13]: Okay. [0:20:14, 0:20:15]: Okay, uh [0:20:15, 0:20:17]: Any comments from the board? [0:20:20, 0:20:22]: Mr. Clancher, Ms. Belson. [0:20:23, 0:20:25]: Yeah, I was just gonna say I was [0:20:26, 0:20:29]: Everyone a a good new year and happy holidays. [0:20:29, 0:20:34]: We won't see each other again until next year. So you skipping Christmas? Absolutely. [0:20:34, 0:20:38]: You skipping Christmas? Yes, I'm skipping Christmas. [0:20:39, 0:20:53]: We all want to and uh like fifty percent we just wanna just not it we want not to happen, but of fifty percent we're I'm excited, I gotta say. So I wish y'all uh I wish all a happy n happy holiday, Christmas, New Year's. [0:20:54, 0:21:00]: And that we'll have a prosperous year forthcoming. Absolutely. Absolutely. Thank you. [0:21:01, 0:21:14]: Um the final uh planning uh the final city council meeting is scheduled for next um next week, the twenty first. I believe that is on [0:21:15, 0:21:33]: Tuesday night. And that starts at 6 p.m. And it will be in the council chambers unless something changes between now and then and is scheduled to be in the council chambers at six. And that meeting will be the final reading and hopefully adoption of the 2022 budget. [0:21:34, 0:21:35]: Among other items. [0:21:36, 0:21:39]: So um back. [0:21:41, 0:21:43]: It is all I have, Chairman. [0:21:44, 0:21:45]: Okay, thank you. [0:21:46, 0:21:48]: Uh any other comments? [0:21:50, 0:21:52]: Noah. Happy holidays, everybody. [0:21:53, 0:21:53]: Yeah. [0:21:54, 0:21:56]: Want to thank you. Happy holidays. [0:21:56, 0:21:57]: Thank you. [0:21:57, 0:22:01]: Well, that completes our agenda for today. Can I get a motion to adjourn? [0:22:03, 0:22:05]: Mr. Chairman, this is Dave Planchon. I would like to [0:22:06, 0:22:09]: Make a motion to adjourn our last meeting of twenty twenty one. [0:22:10, 0:22:11]: And I second it. [0:22:12, 0:22:15]: It's been moved by Mr. Planton and second by Mr. Thibodeau. [0:22:16, 0:22:19]: That this meeting is adjourned until next year. [0:22:19, 0:22:20]: All right. [0:22:20, 0:22:25]: Wanna wish everybody a happy, uh happy holiday again and prosperous new year. [0:22:25, 0:22:28]: And look forward and and look forward to seeing you next year. [0:22:29, 0:22:33]: Absolutely. Absolutely. Thank you, sir. And same to each one of you and um [0:22:34, 0:22:37]: We're looking forward to an amazing twenty twenty two. [0:22:37, 0:22:38]: Right. Definitely. [0:22:38, 0:22:40]: Sounds good. Take care. [0:22:40, 0:22:41]: All right. [0:22:42, 0:22:42]: Good night. [0:22:43, 0:22:47]: Good night, all good night, everybody. Good night. Good night.

--- title: Special Called Meeting date: 2021-12-15 source: 2021-12-15_Special_Called_Meeting.wav --- [0:04:51, 0:04:55]: Good afternoon everyone. We're already live on Facebook and recording. [0:05:00, 0:05:03]: Good afternoon. Afternoon. [0:05:04, 0:05:05]: That's new. [0:05:28, 0:05:30]: Okay. [0:06:25, 0:06:28]: I have two o'clock, but I see that we do not have a quorum at this time. [0:06:30, 0:06:31]: Uh in this aspect. So [0:06:34, 0:06:34]: Yeah. [0:06:36, 0:06:41]: Mayor Ford it has begun streaming this meeting on Facebook Live, FYI. [0:06:41, 0:06:42]: Appreciate it. Thank you. [0:06:43, 0:06:44]: Okay, let's see here. What do we got? [0:06:45, 0:06:47]: Just resent the link, so [0:06:48, 0:06:50]: Everyone should have had it at the top of their email. [0:06:51, 0:06:52]: Okay, thank you. [0:07:01, 0:07:04]: Does Chris K part need to be added to the [0:07:05, 0:07:06]: Not even. [0:07:06, 0:07:09]: Not at this time, it'd be it'll be an executive session here shortly. [0:07:09, 0:07:11]: Mective session. Okay, thanks. [0:07:11, 0:07:12]: Exactly session, right. [0:07:14, 0:07:15]: When we get to that point. [0:07:54, 0:07:55]: [508.0, 509.2]: Hello everyone. [0:08:31, 0:08:32]: Hello. [0:08:35, 0:08:38]: All right, so we now we now have a quorum. So anyway, on that note. [0:08:38, 0:08:39]: We now have a core. [0:08:39, 0:08:40]: Okay, so [0:08:41, 0:08:43]: We do Maybe I can't see everyone on the screen. [0:08:44, 0:08:47]: Well what when you do roll call, you'll see that we'll have a we have a corn present. [0:08:49, 0:08:49]: Okay. [0:08:50, 0:08:53]: All right, ladies and gentlemen. Uh since we're we're a Facebook live and recording. [0:08:53, 0:08:58]: I like to uh call the special call meeting uh for December fifteenth. Uh [0:08:58, 0:08:59]: To order. [0:08:59, 0:09:02]: And uh madam clerk, please do a roll call. [0:09:03, 0:09:04]: Mayor Ford? [0:09:04, 0:09:05]: Present. [0:09:06, 0:09:07]: May approach him Alexander. [0:09:08, 0:09:08]: President. [0:09:10, 0:09:11]: Councilwoman Barber. [0:09:12, 0:09:12]: President. [0:09:14, 0:09:14]: Councilman Blount. [0:09:17, 0:09:20]: That the record reflect counseling blind is not in attendance. [0:09:20, 0:09:22]: Councilwoman Dant. [0:09:24, 0:09:28]: Let the record reflect Councilwoman Gann is not in attendance. Councilman Thomas. [0:09:31, 0:09:34]: That the record reflect Councilman Thomas is not in attendance. [0:09:34, 0:09:36]: I thought I saw him. [0:09:37, 0:09:41]: I he's he's yeah, I I see him. He just gotta speak speak up. He's muted. [0:09:45, 0:09:46]: I'm sorry. [0:09:47, 0:09:49]: But I am here. [0:09:50, 0:10:08]: My thought. Okay. Mayor Ford, you have a quorum. Thank you. Appreciate it, uh, Madam Clerk. Uh let me do a quick invocation, please. Um, Lord, thank you to bring us together once again as we do the city's business for a special call meeting. Allow us to make good logical decisions as we continue to move our city forward. Be us always, Lord, in your name. Amen. [0:10:08, 0:10:14]: Um do we'll do a pleas a pledge of allegiance. Um I don't have a flag, but we stand for pledge of allegiance. [0:10:16, 0:10:19]: Pledge allegiance to the flag. [0:10:20, 0:10:28]: Um two things one nature, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice overall. [0:10:30, 0:10:35]: All right, council, I need a uh motion to adopt the agenda to go into executive session. [0:10:36, 0:10:37]: So [0:10:38, 0:10:38]: There's second. [0:10:41, 0:10:43]: Oh, I'm still okay. Um [0:10:43, 0:10:54]: Miss Barber's uh second that. Um I forgot to mention uh executive session for real estate issues is I'm sorry, sir. Uh I make a motion to go into executive session for real estate issues. [0:10:55, 0:10:55]: Okay. [0:10:55, 0:10:57]: Miss Barber, you second that? [0:10:58, 0:11:00]: Okay. All in favor, please indicate. [0:11:00, 0:11:01]: Uh [0:11:02, 0:11:09]: Okay. Well, okay. Thank you, sir. I hear you. Okay. So on that note, uh, we will go into executive session. [0:11:09, 0:11:11]: Uh Miss Holiday, are we straight? [0:11:11, 0:11:19]: Yes. Okay. So you need to send okay. So we need to send everybody a a separate link to go into cycle session, please. Correct. Thank you. Thank you, Monk. Appreciate it.

--- title: December 13 2021 City Council Meeting date: 2021-12-13 source: 2021-12-13_December_13_2021_City_Council_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:00]: Que música. [0:00:03, 0:00:06]: live and face. Thank you. There we go. Appreciate it. [0:00:10, 0:00:11]: All right, good deal. [0:00:22, 0:00:25]: All right, wait for everybody else to show up and get online. [0:01:00, 0:01:03]: And we are streaming live at this point on Facebook. [0:01:16, 0:01:18]: All right, Council Thomas, good evening to you. [0:01:20, 0:01:22]: Hello, sir. How are you? [0:01:22, 0:01:22]: All righty. [0:01:41, 0:01:43]: Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. [0:01:43, 0:01:46]: I didn't get a chance to talk with you earlier, but I do have uh [0:01:46, 0:01:48]: A few motions to make. [0:01:49, 0:01:50]: Um [0:01:52, 0:02:03]: Are we are we live? Yeah, actually we are live right now. So I mean if you have motions, no problem, we'll deal with that. But uh we are live actually on Facebook right now and recording. All right, thank you. Uh-huh. You're welcome. [0:02:07, 0:02:09]: Welcome, Councilwoman Barber. [0:02:19, 0:02:22]: Chief, our chief of police has now joined us outstanding. [0:02:24, 0:02:24]: Evening. [0:02:25, 0:02:25]: Evening. [0:02:36, 0:02:41]: Okay, I have 559, but uh let's see here. [0:02:42, 0:02:46]: We need our attorneys and uh we actually have a quorum. [0:02:48, 0:02:49]: We need our attorneys as well. [0:03:49, 0:03:50]: No. [0:04:17, 0:04:21]: Welcome, uh Mr. Peterson, Miss Johnson, Miss Logan. [0:04:22, 0:04:25]: Welcome to the meeting in Airport Town. Good to see you. [0:04:26, 0:04:27]: Good evening, Mayor. [0:04:28, 0:04:30]: Right? How how you doing, sir? [0:04:31, 0:04:32]: Ready? Good deal. [0:04:34, 0:04:36]: Okay. Hello everyone. [0:04:38, 0:04:38]: Okay. [0:04:40, 0:04:42]: Good evening, Mayor T. Good evening, everybody. [0:04:46, 0:04:49]: Ah, there we go. Mr. Washington is now in. [0:04:52, 0:04:53]: How are you doing, Mr. Washington? [0:04:56, 0:04:57]: Don't know, how are you, sir? [0:04:57, 0:04:58]: Good deal. All right. [0:04:58, 0:05:03]: I know uh Mr. U and I mean Jeremy is going to be attending as well. [0:05:03, 0:05:05]: Yeah, I'm sending him the we [0:05:06, 0:05:13]: Sending him the link that I'm using now. Okay. All right. All right. So on that note, I have [0:05:14, 0:05:26]: 601 and we do have a quorum present. Uh so I'd like to call our council meeting for December 13th to order. Um Miss Holiday, please, roll call. [0:05:30, 0:05:31]: You're muted, Miss Holiday? [0:05:34, 0:05:35]: Mayor Ford. Present. [0:05:35, 0:05:37]: May approach M Alexander. [0:05:37, 0:05:38]: Present. [0:05:38, 0:05:39]: Councilwoman Barber. [0:05:39, 0:05:40]: That's it. [0:05:40, 0:05:41]: Councilman Blount. [0:05:42, 0:05:43]: Present. [0:05:43, 0:05:44]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:05:47, 0:05:51]: Let the record reflect Councilman Gantt is not in attendance. Councilman Thomas. [0:05:51, 0:05:52]: President. [0:05:52, 0:05:58]: Mayor Ford, you have a quorum. Thank you, ma'am. I appreciate that. Invocation, Councilman Blount, please, sir. [0:06:00, 0:06:00]: Yeah. [0:06:02, 0:06:07]: Dear Heaven Gracious Father, we come to you today. Thank you, Heavenly Father, for each and every one on this call. [0:06:08, 0:06:19]: We thank you for the business of the city, Heavenly Father, that everything will be done decent and in order. We thank you for the citizens entrusting us to move the city forward into areas, Heavenly Father, that you will bless. [0:06:19, 0:06:31]: We thank you, Heavenly Father, for the leadership stepping forward. We thank you for this leadership that would continue to move and strive to be the best that we can be for the citizens of this great city we call Stockbridge. [0:06:31, 0:06:49]: We thank you for the opportunities. We thank you for the vision. We thank you for everything that you would endow us with, Heavenly Father, as a city. We ask that you continue to protect us, protect this county, Heavenly Father, that you would be the overseer and one that would guide and keep us all, God. Keep us all safe during these perilous times, God. [0:06:50, 0:07:02]: Keep us all from the sickness and let, Heavenly Father, anything that would hinder us from doing your job and doing your will, let it pass us right now in the name of Jesus. So we thank you, Father, for all that you're about to do. [0:07:02, 0:07:03]: And is doing. [0:07:03, 0:07:06]: And it's in Jesus' name we pray. Amen. Amen. [0:07:07, 0:07:09]: Can we all stand for the Pledge of Allegiance, please? [0:07:12, 0:07:25]: Pledge allegiance to the flag, the United States of America, and to Republicans for which you stand. One nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:07:28, 0:07:31]: All right, council. I need a motion to adopt agenda, please. [0:07:33, 0:07:34]: Therefore [0:07:34, 0:07:35]: Yes, ma'am. Yeah, for it. [0:07:36, 0:07:37]: Yes, sir. [0:07:37, 0:07:43]: Um I I'll give it to Councilwoman Barber first. Yeah, yeah, she was first actually. Go ahead, Miss Barber. [0:07:44, 0:07:47]: Um I'd like to amend the agenda. [0:07:49, 0:07:53]: For the consent agenda, there are four items listed. [0:07:54, 0:07:55]: Number seven in this. [0:07:56, 0:08:05]: It says request for proposal RP number 20160805 engineering services for Falcon Design. [0:08:05, 0:08:18]: Number eight, request for proposal, RFP number one eight, RFP 021918, CSI engineering services or SCADA system improvements with Carter and Sloop. [0:08:19, 0:08:22]: Number nine, request for proposal number. [0:08:22, 0:08:42]: 18 RP 111918-DRR Community Development Construction Project Manager with Keckham Wood. Number 10, request for proposal, RFP number 17, RFP11207-DRR, Information Technology Supportive Services. [0:08:42, 0:08:45]: with Interdev Technology LLC. [0:08:46, 0:08:50]: Those four items are already on the consent agenda. [0:08:50, 0:08:53]: But I like to propose or make a motion. [0:08:53, 0:08:55]: That we also include several other. [0:08:55, 0:08:56]: Items. [0:08:56, 0:08:58]: that are on the agenda. [0:08:58, 0:09:03]: but they're not on the consent agenda. So I wanna add them to the consent agenda. [0:09:03, 0:09:04]: With conditions. [0:09:06, 0:09:26]: Should I say what my conditions are? Well, yeah, I will tell you. Okay, yes, you you should. And then you want to add these additional uh contracts that are on under new business, is what I gather under new business under certain conditions. And those conditions will apply to the other four that you already mentioned. Is that what I'm assuming? That's what okay. Yeah, you need to identify. [0:09:26, 0:09:31]: that because the council needs to know if they're going to approve this or not. So yes, you need to identify what you want. [0:09:32, 0:09:32]: Okay. [0:09:33, 0:09:36]: So let me get back to the agenda. [0:09:40, 0:09:43]: So there are several contracts. [0:09:44, 0:09:48]: And they're listed as requests for proposals when in fact they are indeed. [0:09:48, 0:09:52]: contracts and I believe staff is presenting them. [0:09:52, 0:09:55]: As requests to expand. [0:09:55, 0:10:04]: The contracts. So I'm not sure why they're listed as requests for proposals because we're not looking to award any of them. Is that correct, Mr. Wiggins? [0:10:04, 0:10:06]: These are contract extensions. [0:10:11, 0:10:13]: You thought I on the new business? [0:10:13, 0:10:15]: Yeah. They're on a new business and so [0:10:16, 0:10:18]: Yes, they they [0:10:18, 0:10:22]: Okay, so the rec number thirteen more some remote. [0:10:22, 0:10:37]: The request number 13, request for proposal number 2020-0026, annual on-call water and sewer emergency operational repair, maintenance and construction, site engineering. [0:10:38, 0:10:49]: Number 14, request for proposal number 20210004, landscape maintenance services with Yellowstone Landscape contract renewal. [0:10:50, 0:11:00]: Number 15, request for proposal numbers 2021-0008. Annual on-call sidewalk repairs and replacement. [0:11:01, 0:11:09]: Number 16, request for proposal RP number 2020-0025, janitorial maintenance services. [0:11:10, 0:11:13]: intercontinental commercial services. [0:11:13, 0:11:31]: Number 17, request for proposal RP number 2020-0027, professional permitting and building inspection services with safe built. Number 18, request for proposal RIP number 2021 0001P. [0:11:32, 0:11:37]: Omnia partners public sector Prince Williams Public Schools contract. [0:11:39, 0:11:45]: RT one seven zero zero six and Amazon services. Um I don't [0:11:46, 0:11:50]: I can't remember. Is that a um contract extension? [0:11:51, 0:11:52]: Um [0:11:52, 0:11:55]: That is a this is gonna be like a change order. [0:11:55, 0:11:57]: Okay. It's a change to that one. [0:11:58, 0:11:58]: Okay. [0:11:59, 0:12:00]: So not number 18. [0:12:01, 0:12:06]: So we have 13, 14, 15, 16, and 17 that are contract extensions. [0:12:07, 0:12:08]: Um [0:12:09, 0:12:09]: So [0:12:10, 0:12:17]: Adding 13, 14, 15, 16, and 17 to the consent agenda, I will approve with conditions. [0:12:18, 0:12:24]: And my motion is to approve those contracts with conditions and the conditions are [0:12:25, 0:12:26]: Number one. [0:12:27, 0:12:29]: All fully executed contracts. [0:12:30, 0:12:32]: with countersign copies. [0:12:32, 0:12:36]: should be forwarded to the custodial of records as indicated in our charter. [0:12:37, 0:12:39]: As to clerk's office. [0:12:39, 0:12:41]: What was provided to the council? [0:12:42, 0:12:44]: were the original RPs. [0:12:45, 0:12:48]: We don't need the RFPs, we need the actual contract. [0:12:49, 0:12:49]: Because [0:12:50, 0:12:52]: Staff is asking the council. [0:12:53, 0:12:54]: To extend. [0:12:54, 0:12:56]: the existing contract. [0:12:56, 0:12:58]: Those existing contracts. [0:12:58, 0:13:00]: most of them on the consent agenda. [0:13:00, 0:13:02]: will expire December thirty first [0:13:03, 0:13:05]: I believe there's one that will expire in January. [0:13:06, 0:13:07]: The end of January. [0:13:07, 0:13:09]: So what I'm asking for. [0:13:09, 0:13:13]: is the actual countersign fully executed contracts. [0:13:14, 0:13:17]: So when I make the request for copies of contracts. [0:13:18, 0:13:25]: I'm not asking for the standard language that is included in the original RPs. [0:13:25, 0:13:28]: We know with the e fully executed contracts. [0:13:29, 0:13:30]: There may be conditions. [0:13:31, 0:13:32]: That the council may have [0:13:32, 0:13:33]: Indicated. [0:13:34, 0:13:36]: When they approved the original award. [0:13:37, 0:13:38]: I need to see that. [0:13:38, 0:13:41]: But I didn't get copies of it. When I asked [0:13:42, 0:13:43]: For the supporting documents. [0:13:43, 0:13:47]: of all of these contract extensions. So I just want to make sure going forward. [0:13:47, 0:13:54]: That council provides the actual contracts when they're asking council's approval to extend. [0:13:55, 0:13:56]: The second condition [0:13:57, 0:13:59]: Uh staff should present to the council. [0:13:59, 0:14:01]: The recommendation to award. [0:14:01, 0:14:03]: A new contract. [0:14:03, 0:14:05]: by our November council meeting. [0:14:06, 0:14:13]: There are several of these contracts that I'm proposing that we add to the consent agenda that have already received. [0:14:13, 0:14:15]: At least one. [0:14:15, 0:14:16]: Extension. [0:14:17, 0:14:19]: A couple of them have been extended. [0:14:20, 0:14:21]: Three times already. [0:14:22, 0:14:25]: We need to make sure that we are sending these back out for bid. [0:14:26, 0:14:27]: I want to make sure. [0:14:28, 0:14:30]: staff should present to the council. [0:14:30, 0:14:33]: The recommendation to award a new contract. [0:14:33, 0:14:35]: By november twenty twenty two. [0:14:36, 0:14:37]: Council meeting. [0:14:37, 0:14:42]: Staff will need to determine when best to post the solicitations. [0:14:42, 0:14:45]: Allowing adequate time to execute. [0:14:45, 0:14:47]: all the procurement processes. [0:14:47, 0:14:48]: while meeting. [0:14:49, 0:14:53]: the November council member deadline, a council meeting deadlines. [0:14:55, 0:14:58]: The third condition staff should automatically [0:14:59, 0:15:02]: Rebid services when council has previously approved. [0:15:03, 0:15:04]: An extension. [0:15:05, 0:15:10]: No new extensions after two approvals from council. [0:15:11, 0:15:14]: We have to do our due dil due diligence internally. [0:15:15, 0:15:17]: make sure that we are putting these back out. [0:15:17, 0:15:22]: so that we are open, fair, and transparent to the public. [0:15:22, 0:15:24]: We can't just keep renewing contracts. [0:15:25, 0:15:27]: The fourth one is [0:15:27, 0:15:30]: Um for the city attorneys, but it's also a condition. [0:15:31, 0:15:36]: Um, I don't see that there are guidelines for the council or even staff to follow. [0:15:36, 0:15:41]: With regards to readvertising city services in the ordinance, the code. [0:15:41, 0:15:42]: Policy or manual. [0:15:43, 0:15:55]: We need to have it spelled out. I believe that staff is following most of the um Department of Administrative Services, the state procurement processes, and that's fine, but we need to have it spelled out in our own. [0:15:56, 0:16:00]: codes, policies, ordinance, manuals, so that we're all clear. [0:16:01, 0:16:03]: Um and please. [0:16:03, 0:16:05]: To the city attorneys. [0:16:05, 0:16:12]: Add to the list of recommended revisions to our procurement ordinance, policy, manual, code. [0:16:12, 0:16:19]: Language or criteria that speaks to the best practices and criteria for rebidding city services. [0:16:20, 0:16:25]: The list of recommended revisions should be presented to the council for approval. [0:16:25, 0:16:27]: At our February council meeting. [0:16:28, 0:16:33]: We need to be able to demonstrate to the public that our processes are open and fair. [0:16:34, 0:16:38]: That's all. So those four conditions I'm willing to approve. [0:16:39, 0:16:45]: all of staff's request for council's approval to extend these contracts. [0:16:46, 0:16:54]: All right. Um now attorney is that is that this is all considered a legal motion. This it hadn't been seconded just yet, but it is considered a legal motion. [0:16:57, 0:17:05]: Yes, Mayor, I guess with those points, uh correct. And then I uh respectfully, Councilmember Barber, if you can send us those as well. So we make sure that we have those. [0:17:06, 0:17:09]: I guess if this you know, with if this passes, but so that we have those [0:17:10, 0:17:10]: Uh [0:17:11, 0:17:13]: Reflected correctly, please. [0:17:14, 0:17:16]: Okay, if they should be um [0:17:17, 0:17:25]: They should be included in the minutes. I believe the clerk will include those as a part of her action items. [0:17:26, 0:17:40]: The clerk was taking notes on it, but to make sure that it's uh we got it all squared away, I think uh what it amounts to is that what uh Mr. Berry is asking for to make sure that we have the right terminology upon this passing, if it passes in aspect anyway. [0:17:40, 0:17:43]: Good afternoon, Matt. I I will see. [0:17:44, 0:17:47]: Mr stand by Mr. Thomas. Go ahead, Mr. Washington. [0:17:48, 0:17:52]: I just wanna if if we could do a could we do a breakout room? [0:17:52, 0:17:55]: with the city attorney and the clerks for a second place. [0:17:55, 0:17:59]: based on the motions that bust based on the motions and stipulation that we deserve. [0:18:00, 0:18:01]: Well [0:18:01, 0:18:16]: a breakout well that would be a separate i mean to do that you have to have a separate link and it's like an executive session separate link to uh to talk with her if that's the case and you're you're referring to having a conversation with her with without the rest of the council is that what you're getting at well not not we just want to get [0:18:17, 0:18:20]: There's some clarity procedural points that I just want to iron out. [0:18:21, 0:18:29]: And so I'm I'm trying to figure that out based on what the clerk would have taken down about. Yes. Well, I mean, if we want to have a discussion here, we can, but [0:18:30, 0:18:44]: Okay. Because what's going to happen is I'm going to be we're legal's going to be asked to write resolutions about this, right? I think these should be standalone resolutions. I wanted to confer with the clerk to get her thoughts on this because these are at they're specific things which I think are outside of stipulations. [0:18:44, 0:18:47]: But I want to ask the clerk that to get her thoughts on that. [0:18:48, 0:18:50]: All right. Like for tracking purposes, what's best for you? [0:18:53, 0:18:57]: Good afternoon, Mayor. May I speak? Stand by. Stand by, Miss Miller. Um [0:18:59, 0:19:04]: Miss Holliday, did you want to answer answer? I see you, Mr. Thomas. Mr. Ms. Holiday, you want to answer him at this point? [0:19:05, 0:19:25]: Do you have an answer? Mayor uh council, your legal counsel has requested a meeting. I would um respectfully ask that we honor that. Okay, understand. I can send um a meeting to him. Okay, stand by. All right, I understand, stand by. Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. Mayor for before we go there. [0:19:25, 0:19:28]: Uh correct me someone if if I'm incorrect. [0:19:29, 0:19:32]: The concern agenda agenda [0:19:32, 0:19:34]: Uh it has to be [0:19:34, 0:19:38]: uh agreed upon amongst all council members. [0:19:38, 0:19:44]: Because I have I have some issues and I have some questions on some of these agenda items. [0:19:45, 0:19:49]: So if that is the case, they they should not go to consent agenda. Is that correct? [0:19:50, 0:19:51]: That is correct. [0:19:52, 0:19:56]: Cause I I I just have I have questions with many of these items. [0:19:58, 0:20:18]: Well, I know that we we initially agreed that these items would come on a consent agenda in our previous meeting. That's why they're there. If we're going if you're thinking about if you have further questions, you want to take something off, I guess we'll have to refer back to attorneys in reference to Robert's rules of order. I do know I do recall, Mr. Thomas, and I've talked to Mr. Berry about this, that you wanted some additional statements. [0:20:18, 0:20:30]: or additional statements some type in reference to the items on the agenda, these contracts about them having some routine guidance and updates uh per se. And I talked to Mr. Berry about that earlier. [0:20:30, 0:20:42]: And we uh we're going to discuss that further as we talked about this, but I'll tell you, stand by Mr. Thomas for a second, please. Mr. Barrett, can you can you at least expound on that? And that may be one of the things that Mr. Thomas is looking for. [0:20:43, 0:21:03]: Which part specifically, Mayor I guess I gotta look at the other. We we talked originally about the four items, four contracts on the uh consent agenda, but also in reference to a particular statement that needed to be added with those contracts in reference to reporting on a more routine basis so the council is kept uh aware of what's going on with those specific design. [0:21:03, 0:21:17]: uh projects that those contractors had. And we discussed that a couple of times, I believe. Right. Yes. Uh correct. I know there's been sentiment from the council or from council members about having regular reports from various contractors. Uh you know, either [0:21:17, 0:21:23]: Monthly reports to the city manager or quarterly reports or or regular reports to the council. [0:21:23, 0:21:32]: That can be done one of two different ways. Either we could make it the language of of contracts, which is fine. It may not need to be that, or just pass a resolution, frankly. [0:21:32, 0:21:40]: That says that that's the policy of the the council. It doesn't necessarily need to be a contract item. It can be put in the contract. [0:21:40, 0:21:46]: But if the if the council or the city manager or the mayor, whomever, wants regular updates. [0:21:46, 0:21:49]: Then they're entitled to those from the the contractors. [0:21:49, 0:21:51]: So it can be done either in the contracts. [0:21:52, 0:22:02]: separate resolution or frankly council can just say contractor we want you to report at such and such meeting doesn't even need to be in a contract in in the contract language. [0:22:02, 0:22:18]: Therefore, if I may stand by thank you, Mr. Barrett, for that. Back to you, Mr. Thomas. Go ahead, sir. See, for for instance, uh I I have issues with um Yellowstone, so I would not approve of that being in consent agenda because I have some I have questions. [0:22:18, 0:22:27]: So I don't know if this motion is going to pass or not, but I agree with some of the things that um Councilwoman Barber stated. [0:22:27, 0:22:31]: I do not agree with consent agenda because there are questions. [0:22:32, 0:22:50]: Okay. So I'm back well stand by please. Mr. Washington, back to you on the legal opinion, as well as Mr. Berry here. We have a consent agenda that we agreed to to put on this for this particular um meeting. So if we want to take something off that consent agenda, there's a process I would imagine for Robert's rules that we'd have to go through to do that is my assumption. [0:22:51, 0:22:53]: One person. [0:22:54, 0:22:59]: Yes, sir. Would be a motion to remove something from the consent agenda. Okay. [0:22:59, 0:23:00]: All right. [0:23:00, 0:23:20]: All right. Stand by Ms. Brand Pro Temp. Stand by. All right. Thank you, Mr. Barrett. Ms. Miller, go ahead, please. Yes. Mayor. I'm sorry, Miss Miller. Yes, good afternoon. Good evening, Mayor. Um Council. Hold on. Ms. Barber, stand by Miss Barber. Miss Miller. I have in front of me the I have in front of me this is [0:23:20, 0:23:34]: Is the site engineering which was uploaded to Civic Plus? On the second page is the actual contract for Civic Plus. The contract was signed by [0:23:35, 0:23:48]: It was signed and executed by the mayor, the council, and the clerk. This was uploaded with the agenda. The agenda is first, the contract is there, the RFP is next. [0:23:48, 0:23:50]: Next is [0:23:51, 0:23:57]: Omnia partners, the same thing. The actual contract that was executed. [0:23:58, 0:24:00]: It's behind the agenda. [0:24:01, 0:24:06]: The next one is janitorial janitorial. [0:24:06, 0:24:15]: By ICS. If you look at the agenda, which was uploaded to Civic Plus and submitted to the council, you'll see there is the agenda. [0:24:16, 0:24:27]: Here, the next page under the agenda is the actual executed agreement contract by the vendor. The next one that you have in front of you is Safe Build. [0:24:28, 0:24:35]: You'll see that this was uploaded to the agenda. You have the agenda. Next page after the agenda. [0:24:38, 0:24:46]: Is the actual the actual executed contract by the vendor and it was signed by the mayor, the clerk. [0:24:46, 0:24:50]: Um and the vendor. The next contract you have is Yellowstone. [0:24:52, 0:24:53]: The agenda. [0:24:53, 0:24:57]: This was also uploaded on Civic Plus and submitted to the council. [0:24:58, 0:25:03]: The next page underneath the agenda is the actual executed contract. [0:25:03, 0:25:05]: And this was signed. [0:25:12, 0:25:32]: By the mayor, the clerk, and the vendor. So, with all the agendas that were submitted, every executed contract was submitted as an exhibit. Number two, the renewal process. The renewal process is spelled out in the policy for procurement. It's also best practice. [0:25:32, 0:25:52]: Practices and for the state. When we send out a renewal, the renewal is not done based on the procurement department. The renewal is actually sent out to each department head and they give the recommendation to the procurement department and advise because they are the experts whether they want to renew or not. They have the opportunity. [0:25:52, 0:25:58]: Opportunity to say if they want to rebid. We actually send them a renewal form that they fill out. [0:25:59, 0:26:15]: And they provide to the procurement department. And then we say, okay, the department has felt that the vendor has done a good job. They want to renew. This process once again is best practices. It's spelt out in state of Georgia law. It's also spelt out in our policy. [0:26:15, 0:26:35]: Now, once we get that, once we get that back from the department heads, we then prepare an agenda. If you look at the agenda, the renewal process shows where the department head has made the decision to go ahead and renew the contract. Now, when it comes to the council, the council has the right to not agree with the department head. [0:26:35, 0:26:55]: Or to agree with the department head. Procurement has no preference on what needs to be done. Basically, we look at the procurement, the expert who is the department head, who says that this vendor has done everything according to the scope of services. We then bring it to council and say, council. [0:26:55, 0:27:08]: Look, your department head wants to renew. Your budget has been approved. Do you want us to renew or do you want us to bid out? The next issue is the readvertising. [0:27:08, 0:27:28]: Um, I'm sorry, number three was the automatic rebid no renew. Well, if we're going to do that, then your department heads would need a directive that says that they're not to renew any contract and we bid everything out the year after. And if that's the case, that would need to be in the ordinance, which is not in the ordinance. The number number four. [0:27:28, 0:27:45]: The re-advertisement policy. It seems like that's the same as number three, which is a little bit redundant. But the point is that every agenda was in some cases, you have uh more than 900 a thousand pages for each agenda. Each agenda had, again, the agenda. [0:27:45, 0:27:53]: The executed contract, the RFP that was bid on the streets, and then the renewal asking counsel to. [0:27:54, 0:28:08]: um approve whether they want to renew or not. So for the record, I just want it documented that every contract had the executed um executed contract and the fact the statement that no executed contracts is not accurate. [0:28:09, 0:28:13]: Thank you. Stand by stand by folks. We got a lot going on here. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [0:28:16, 0:28:18]: Mayor, thank you. You know. [0:28:19, 0:28:23]: Um we've yet to get to one agenda item. [0:28:23, 0:28:24]: Because [0:28:25, 0:28:27]: Prior to any of this tonight. [0:28:27, 0:28:30]: We all have this information prior to tonight. [0:28:31, 0:28:34]: We all have the opportunity to speak to. [0:28:34, 0:28:39]: The person that has the power of the city manager, which is the mayor right now. [0:28:39, 0:28:45]: We all have the power to talk to uh whatever department uh about whatever department head. [0:28:45, 0:28:49]: We all have this information in front of us prior to tonight. [0:28:50, 0:28:55]: And we've been on this call with all of these changes and all these presumptions and all of this stuff that we don't [0:28:56, 0:28:58]: Some of it, you know, it's like we don't have a [0:28:58, 0:28:59]: You know [0:28:59, 0:29:03]: Is this none of this is new? All of this information has been in front of this council. [0:29:04, 0:29:13]: And you know, if if if this council wants to go through each agenda item, uh Mr. Thomas has has said he would like to, then let's move forward with doing that. [0:29:14, 0:29:16]: That's nothing here that I'm seeing. [0:29:17, 0:29:21]: That's out of order whether we're gonna go by gender item or we're gonna go consent agenda. [0:29:22, 0:29:32]: And if we're gonna go by agenda item, then let's go ahead and do that because procedurally, I see nothing out of order here. Only thing we're saying is this council has the right to say. [0:29:32, 0:29:34]: Whether we want to go consent. [0:29:34, 0:29:45]: agenda or we want to go item by item if that's the case then why don't we start this meeting and stop all of this all night when all of this stuff has been before this council long before the night. [0:29:46, 0:29:48]: This makes no sense to me. [0:29:49, 0:29:51]: All right, st stand by Mr. Thomas. Mare Pro tem. [0:29:54, 0:30:07]: Yeah, I I just think that there's a general um I just want to make sure everybody understands the consent agenda. The consent agenda is non-debatable items that we have all agreed upon and that nobody has any contention. [0:30:08, 0:30:22]: All it takes to remove something from the consent agenda under Roberts rules is one person objects. So if all five of us don't agree, then that item is automatically removed from the consent agenda. That's how the consent agenda works. [0:30:22, 0:30:38]: The consent agenda is simply this. Everybody has to agree. Everybody's had all their questions already answered. It's put on the consent agenda for one bulk vote. That's it. There's no other vote. There's no more discussion. So is that what the intent is? [0:30:40, 0:30:44]: I would I manage it seems like that's the kin the attempt. Mr. Thomas, back to you now. [0:30:44, 0:30:45]: Um [0:30:46, 0:30:50]: Mayor, I'm I'm I'm glad you recognize me. I'm going to agree with [0:30:51, 0:30:53]: Uh Councilman Blount there. Um [0:30:53, 0:30:55]: Mayor Ford. [0:30:55, 0:30:56]: Mr. Washington. [0:30:57, 0:31:07]: Uh you all know that going back to November, um I spoke about this uh a month ago. I spoke to you again about this. [0:31:07, 0:31:17]: Um and so yes, yes, I I I've done my due diligence. I spoke up months ago to make sure that the language um [0:31:18, 0:31:29]: that the council approved on going back to November, the last two council meeting, this council approved of that language being in these contract. So when I receive the packet, that language is not there. [0:31:30, 0:31:46]: Also, let me just speak to another issue. Uh, I spoke with the community development director and I was prepared to make a motion to remove Safe Built because she informed me and she recommended that it be removed because it is not up for renewal. [0:31:47, 0:31:49]: So we receive this information. [0:31:49, 0:32:09]: um two weeks before the expiration. I have a problem with that. But again, the community development director, uh, when I spoke with her, uh, she suggested that that this removed because uh it is up is not up for renewal because it would just sign back in April. [0:32:09, 0:32:18]: And so that means it would be less than a year if we if it expires uh in December. And so again, um as the department head. [0:32:19, 0:32:26]: Uh in community development, uh she recommended that this item be removed. So that was going to be my first motion. [0:32:26, 0:32:31]: uh when you asked to approve uh of the agenda. That was gonna be my first motion. [0:32:32, 0:32:33]: Secondly [0:32:33, 0:32:47]: Um, it is correct that yes, we did approve of a consent agenda, but as the mayor pro tem indicated, coming forward to this meeting, in order for the consent agenda to be to be approved, yes, we all have to agree with that. [0:32:48, 0:32:54]: But I do have issues and I do have question. Now the motion that was made to include [0:32:54, 0:32:55]: Um [0:32:55, 0:33:09]: the other agenda items outside of what was already stated for the consent agenda, I I have questions. So I would not approve of those other agenda items going into consent because I I I have questions. [0:33:09, 0:33:14]: Okay, thank you. Okay, I appreciate that. Mm Ms. Barber, back to you now. [0:33:14, 0:33:16]: Okay. Well I was gonna tell um [0:33:16, 0:33:21]: Councilman Thomas is if he wants me to add to my motion. [0:33:22, 0:33:25]: Um that language as a condition, I will do that. [0:33:26, 0:33:30]: In addition to removing specific items [0:33:30, 0:33:31]: And a new business. [0:33:32, 0:33:33]: Ревін сертон. [0:33:34, 0:33:36]: Um from the consent agenda. [0:33:36, 0:33:37]: I'm okay with that. [0:33:37, 0:33:40]: Um, I just didn't want us to have to go. [0:33:40, 0:33:42]: Контракт бат. [0:33:43, 0:33:44]: and approving them. [0:33:44, 0:33:45]: Secondly [0:33:46, 0:33:48]: When this agenda was sent to the council. [0:33:49, 0:33:50]: It was piecemealed. [0:33:50, 0:33:51]: To us. [0:33:52, 0:33:53]: Three separate emails. [0:33:54, 0:33:57]: With various supporting documents. [0:33:58, 0:34:00]: We didn't need the RP. [0:34:01, 0:34:04]: Nine hundred pages of the RP. [0:34:05, 0:34:07]: What we needed was a contract. [0:34:07, 0:34:09]: Because that is what is before us. [0:34:10, 0:34:13]: What is before the council is whether or not [0:34:13, 0:34:15]: To extend [0:34:15, 0:34:17]: the existing contract. [0:34:17, 0:34:20]: Councilman Thomas is absolutely correct. [0:34:21, 0:34:23]: Whether or not the department head [0:34:24, 0:34:26]: Is okay with not. [0:34:26, 0:34:28]: renewing the contract. [0:34:29, 0:34:30]: That's their decision. [0:34:30, 0:34:31]: We're the governing body. [0:34:32, 0:34:34]: We get to make the final decision. [0:34:35, 0:34:36]: And to drop this in my lap. [0:34:37, 0:34:43]: In December, when the contract is going to expire in two weeks, is unacceptable. [0:34:45, 0:34:47]: Staff needs to do their due diligence. [0:34:48, 0:34:49]: Six months out. [0:34:49, 0:34:52]: Before they know a contract is going to expire. [0:34:52, 0:34:55]: There has to be criteria in place. [0:34:55, 0:34:56]: So that they know. [0:34:56, 0:34:59]: Which contracts need to go back out for bid? [0:35:00, 0:35:01]: Um, for instance. [0:35:02, 0:35:03]: One of these contracts. [0:35:03, 0:35:06]: The council approved in twenty sixteen. [0:35:08, 0:35:09]: It's the name of a contract. [0:35:09, 0:35:11]: You all have been renewing it. [0:35:11, 0:35:12]: Every year. [0:35:12, 0:35:13]: Since then. [0:35:15, 0:35:16]: That's not best practice. [0:35:18, 0:35:21]: I'm okay with one or two renewals of a contract. [0:35:21, 0:35:25]: But when it's four and five renewals. [0:35:25, 0:35:26]: That's an issue. [0:35:27, 0:35:28]: Those [0:35:28, 0:35:31]: other points that I'm trying to get us back on track. [0:35:32, 0:35:34]: Or trying to get us on track. [0:35:35, 0:35:38]: Every single meeting when there is a contract on the agenda. [0:35:39, 0:35:41]: I end up asking a whole lot of questions. [0:35:41, 0:35:43]: Because I'm not providing with the information. [0:35:43, 0:35:47]: That I need in order to make a decision as a member of the governing body. [0:35:49, 0:35:53]: When it comes to contract renewals, all I'm asking. [0:35:53, 0:35:55]: It on the consent agenda. [0:35:56, 0:35:59]: Councilman Thomas, you want to remove [0:36:00, 0:36:03]: Um which of these items on the consent agenda? [0:36:03, 0:36:05]: Did you want to remove? [0:36:05, 0:36:08]: Mayor Ford, if if if I'm able to respond to that. [0:36:09, 0:36:14]: Uh my recommendation would be Councilwoman Bar would be to remove your motion. [0:36:15, 0:36:20]: Uh and and let's just go forward as Councilman Blount said, let's just go through the agenda because [0:36:20, 0:36:21]: Um [0:36:21, 0:36:25]: That I do have a motion I think that would clear up. [0:36:25, 0:36:32]: Um, the same concern that you have, Castle Woman Barber, if I'm allowed to make this motion, I think it would clear up. [0:36:33, 0:36:37]: Um your concerns, you know, I hadn't had a chance to talk to anyone about this. [0:36:38, 0:36:56]: But I think if I'm if I'm able and allowed to make the motion, then I think it clears up. I'll withdraw my motion. Oh okay. Motion's withdrawal. Cause I was gonna ask for a second. If it, you know, well but motion you withdraw your motion. Okay, fantastic. Now I need a motion to accept the agenda as written, please. Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. [0:36:58, 0:36:59]: I'm motion. [0:37:00, 0:37:03]: To remove agenda item seventeen. [0:37:04, 0:37:09]: on the new business, building inspection service, uh safe built. [0:37:09, 0:37:14]: Georgia LLC recommended by community development. [0:37:14, 0:37:15]: Um [0:37:15, 0:37:20]: In the packet that we receive, this contract was made in April. [0:37:21, 0:37:33]: uh December in which we just received uh the packet just a few weeks ago. So according to what's in the packet, this contract expires in December 31st. [0:37:33, 0:37:36]: Uh I come to find out that that is not correct. [0:37:37, 0:37:40]: Uh it ex it is due to expire in April. [0:37:41, 0:37:41]: So [0:37:42, 0:37:49]: That that's the motion to to remove that. I do have a separate motion for the consent agenda, but I thought you were going to take. [0:37:50, 0:37:51]: Um [0:37:51, 0:37:52]: The [0:37:52, 0:37:54]: Overall agenda first. [0:37:54, 0:37:59]: And then come back and ask for the uh consent agenda. But [0:37:59, 0:38:16]: No, actually, sir, I was gonna ask for actually what I need to ask for is there an amendments to to the agenda uh or not. So you're making one amendment and we can vote we can get a second to vote on that and see whether that approves. And then if there's another one uh individual mo uh motion for a change, we do that and then we'll go and and uh approve the whole thing. [0:38:17, 0:38:26]: So if you were talking about item number 17, is there a second to item number 17? A motion second to that motion. Ms. Gantt seconds that motion. Okay. [0:38:27, 0:38:28]: Uh Mayor. [0:38:31, 0:38:31]: Yeah. [0:38:32, 0:38:52]: Yes, Mr. Well, the statement um was not accurate. I did have a chance to speak with um Brecca um and the contract does not expire in April. The reason you have the RFP as well as the um executed contract is because the executed contract lists the [0:38:52, 0:39:12]: RFP as an exhibit. So when you review the the RFP, the RFP specifies the renewal of the contract. If you look in the RFP, you'll see where it shows where every contract, where it with the date and um and month and year that it expires. So on safe build. [0:39:12, 0:39:32]: Although Safe Bill was executed on April, which I did explain to Breca, when you look at the RFP, which is an exhibit to the contract, the contract expires December and it spells out every renewal based on the physical year of the city and the state of Georgia's statute. [0:39:32, 0:39:39]: So the contract does not expire in April. The contract expires in December, as I um explained to you, Brecca. [0:39:40, 0:39:41]: Mayor. [0:39:42, 0:39:43]: Yes, man. [0:39:43, 0:39:53]: If that is the case, I would remove my um second. However, our attorney should be able to review that contract. All the contracts are right behind the agenda item. [0:39:53, 0:40:04]: Um and of course we don't have to redraw a contract because when you renew it automatically um stage in effect this the original contract. [0:40:04, 0:40:08]: So if the attorneys are if they can look at the date. [0:40:08, 0:40:15]: Um but there's a clause there basically stating when this contract was to begin, it's gonna have it in there. Then that's what I'm gonna go buy. [0:40:16, 0:40:25]: Um all right. If I can get back to a question, great. Council Member Gan, I I did discuss that with Ms. Miller today and I I'm not sure that we're on the same page. [0:40:26, 0:40:27]: All right. [0:40:27, 0:40:47]: Uh Ms. Gantt, since you withdrew your second, Mr. Thomas, you still have a motion. Wait, wait. I was going to ask uh only that was a stipulation from Councilwoman Gantt only if the I if that was correct or not. So yes, is it is it correct? Jer so uh Jeremy, you think that the contract um renews in April or [0:40:47, 0:40:50]: in uh December. You guys are legal. [0:40:52, 0:41:01]: The contract was signed in April and it says it's for one year and then they're one year extensions. And and Ms. Miller and I talked about that this morning, that the RFP [0:41:02, 0:41:03]: Contemplate [0:41:03, 0:41:10]: based on the fiscal year, but the language of the contract itself says for a from April for one year. [0:41:10, 0:41:18]: So I said we need to clarify this because if I was the contractor reading this on the other side, I would say that's for one year, not for eight months. [0:41:19, 0:41:23]: So my question is, when did Safefield begin working for the city of Stockbridge? [0:41:23, 0:41:24]: April of this year. [0:41:25, 0:41:29]: Okay, I consider that one year April. So I second the motion. [0:41:31, 0:41:34]: All right. Motion's been made to remove safe build from the [0:41:35, 0:41:38]: From uh the uh agenda item. [0:41:38, 0:41:40]: Further discussion. [0:41:41, 0:41:42]: All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:41:44, 0:41:58]: Okay, it looks like there's now a sustain okay. May I you asked for further discussion. I don't know if you can see my hand. I I did not see your hand, sir. I I I I I I just want to say because we we're gonna go forward with with with whatever is getting ready to happen now. [0:41:59, 0:42:03]: Um we've been into this meeting at l like I say again, 40 minutes. [0:42:05, 0:42:06]: And one of the things that [0:42:07, 0:42:09]: We all have to look at and understand. [0:42:10, 0:42:13]: Every question is being asked tonight. [0:42:14, 0:42:18]: Could have been asked prior to this meeting. Every concern tonight. [0:42:19, 0:42:21]: Could have been done prior to this meeting. [0:42:22, 0:42:23]: When we have new [0:42:23, 0:42:24]: information [0:42:25, 0:42:35]: in this meeting, then I understand new discussions, but nothing's that's on this agenda is brand new and they could have been discussed prior to now. [0:42:35, 0:42:43]: And when we talk about a motion to remove something from a consent agenda, that's an exception to the rule because that's new. [0:42:43, 0:42:48]: But if any information needs to be adhered to or talked about [0:42:48, 0:42:51]: This stuff is before us before tonight. [0:42:52, 0:42:56]: We're we're we're we're we're forty minutes into this meeting. [0:42:56, 0:43:02]: And we haven't done one thing other than discuss what could have been discussed prior to this meeting. [0:43:02, 0:43:05]: We gotta be better about the citizens' business than this. [0:43:06, 0:43:07]: Okay. [0:43:07, 0:43:09]: All right, so the most been made, been seconded. [0:43:09, 0:43:10]: I mean [0:43:11, 0:43:12]: Yes, go ahead, sir. [0:43:14, 0:43:20]: Mayor, th this is this is what I say to that. I I don't have a problem with us working. [0:43:21, 0:43:22]: To be more efficient. [0:43:23, 0:43:25]: and effective in what we do. [0:43:25, 0:43:34]: Uh, we have to go through these growing pains to make sure that we are efficient and effective. [0:43:34, 0:43:36]: Now I will say that [0:43:36, 0:43:40]: We just received the agenda items. Um what [0:43:40, 0:43:42]: A week ago. [0:43:42, 0:43:49]: Oh whatever. So therefore we didn't really know the language until we actually got into the book. [0:43:49, 0:44:07]: But the motion that I'm getting ready to make goes back to something that I spoke to two months ago. So that's that's that's it for my comments. So if I may move forward with my other motion, I just want to say that for we need to vote. We need to make sure we got a vote on the first one you mentioned. [0:44:07, 0:44:18]: I I thought it I thought everybody voted. But anyway, go ahead, sir. Call for the vote. Okay. Okay. Ms. Barber, are you voting or you have something else you need to add here? Okay. For all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:44:18, 0:44:19]: All right. [0:44:19, 0:44:23]: And it's you MCC, okay, fine. So number 17 comes off. [0:44:23, 0:44:37]: Congratulations, Ms. Johnson. Now, um, Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. Do you have an additional motion for the agenda? For the consent, for the consent agenda. Yes. I motion to amend. [0:44:38, 0:44:41]: The contract of Falcon Engineering [0:44:42, 0:44:43]: Cod and slow. [0:44:44, 0:44:46]: Inadale and Kekin Woods. [0:44:46, 0:44:48]: To include [0:44:49, 0:44:50]: Quarterly [0:44:50, 0:44:52]: Project updates. [0:44:52, 0:44:54]: With timelines. [0:44:55, 0:44:56]: Project status [0:44:57, 0:44:59]: As stated in the November [0:45:00, 0:45:03]: eighth twenty twenty one meeting. [0:45:05, 0:45:06]: A second. [0:45:06, 0:45:07]: Yeah. [0:45:08, 0:45:13]: All right. This Ms. Gantt got the second there. All right. All in favor, please indicate. [0:45:15, 0:45:17]: I'll I'll pose you my pose. [0:45:19, 0:45:20]: Abstain? Amen. [0:45:21, 0:45:21]: Excuse me? [0:45:21, 0:45:22]: Comments? [0:45:24, 0:45:25]: Okay. [0:45:25, 0:45:26]: You have a comment? [0:45:26, 0:45:27]: I do. [0:45:27, 0:45:28]: Go right here, please. [0:45:28, 0:45:29]: Okay. [0:45:29, 0:45:30]: Um [0:45:34, 0:45:35]: So [0:45:35, 0:45:39]: For the Falcon Inc. Design Consultant Services. [0:45:40, 0:45:43]: Was that a contract that was approved by council? [0:45:43, 0:45:44]: With an award. [0:45:45, 0:45:46]: In twenty sixteen. [0:45:49, 0:45:50]: Mr. Wiggins. [0:45:53, 0:45:54]: Yes, it was approved. [0:45:54, 0:45:55]: Back in sixteen. [0:45:56, 0:45:59]: Okay, so since then we've been just extending it. [0:46:00, 0:46:00]: Every year. [0:46:03, 0:46:04]: Correct. [0:46:04, 0:46:06]: I'll have a check and see. Um [0:46:07, 0:46:08]: Okay. [0:46:08, 0:46:13]: Thinking then is that is that a three, three year uh then after that it will renew every year. [0:46:14, 0:46:31]: Um as as you can recall, um when Mr. Knighton was here, uh we had the discussion back in January, February, March, April, May, and June. The contract had no renewals remaining. The issue before council was the fact that there was no issue, there was no um [0:46:31, 0:46:37]: No renewals remaining, however, they had 19 projects pending. [0:46:37, 0:46:48]: So when you look at the agenda, the agenda explains that there's no renewals remaining on this contract. However, because they have 19 projects pending, we needed a decision from Mr. Knighton. [0:46:49, 0:46:54]: as to whether we should go out to bid or not. That decision was never made. [0:46:54, 0:46:59]: So now we're at the situ case where we do have no renewals remaining. [0:46:59, 0:47:07]: Council has to make the decision whether to approve the contract on a one-year agreement or not. [0:47:07, 0:47:11]: The fact is that they still have 19 projects pending. [0:47:11, 0:47:25]: Okay. So hold on folks. One of time. Hold on. Miss Barber, finish your time. Can I finish my comments? Stand folks stand by. Stand by please. Miss Barber, go ahead, please. Thank you. [0:47:26, 0:47:27]: So with knowing that [0:47:28, 0:47:29]: We know. [0:47:29, 0:47:32]: that we've been just renewing this contract. [0:47:32, 0:47:39]: Um, at least it's had at least one or two extensions. This is a contract that was awarded in 2016. [0:47:39, 0:47:44]: When I looked at the RFP because there was no contract. [0:47:45, 0:47:46]: That I could find. [0:47:47, 0:47:48]: in our email or our packet. [0:47:49, 0:47:52]: It mentions that the award of this contract. [0:47:53, 0:47:55]: The council could award it to multiple. [0:47:55, 0:47:56]: Suppliers. [0:47:57, 0:47:58]: So there was no need. [0:47:58, 0:48:02]: for us to just rely on one contractor. [0:48:03, 0:48:04]: It's not best practice. [0:48:05, 0:48:08]: To put all of our eggs in one basket. [0:48:08, 0:48:12]: Now we have Falcon Design, who has 19 projects. [0:48:14, 0:48:18]: we should be able to make an award to multiple contractors. [0:48:19, 0:48:23]: For this I will oppose. Um I will oppose it. [0:48:23, 0:48:24]: Because [0:48:24, 0:48:26]: I don't want to extend what I [0:48:27, 0:48:33]: If I approve this extension, it will be with a condition of rebidding it. [0:48:36, 0:48:40]: That's the only thing I'll approve it. Stand by folks. Stand by. Mr. Wiggins, please. [0:48:41, 0:48:50]: Yes, uh and and and that and that's the case after this. If you you go ahead and extend this one more year, it has to go out to bed. [0:48:50, 0:48:51]: Just like the rest of'em. [0:48:53, 0:48:55]: Okay, thank you. [0:48:55, 0:49:00]: That's me added to the motion. Okay. Mr. Thomas, go ahead, sir. [0:49:00, 0:49:03]: The second part of my original motion was [0:49:04, 0:49:05]: A motion to [0:49:05, 0:49:07]: Approve [0:49:07, 0:49:09]: І міді юс [0:49:09, 0:49:13]: Of the city of Stockbridge contract template. [0:49:14, 0:49:16]: To be provided to the governing body. [0:49:17, 0:49:20]: In advance of request. [0:49:20, 0:49:22]: For approval. [0:49:22, 0:49:25]: To award all future contracts. [0:49:26, 0:49:31]: With language and content that protects the city. [0:49:32, 0:49:41]: Okay, sir, but I want to make sure I want to make sure that the the the the first motion you made dealt with safe safe bright. You just made another motion in reference to Edison. [0:49:42, 0:49:43]: No. [0:49:43, 0:49:48]: What not the the the first part it was the first part of the motion was to [0:49:49, 0:50:09]: uh amend the contract of Falcon et cetera et cetera for the quarterly updates that was okay i want to get back to that for a second sir and i second that so are y'all second that okay okay i have that i have that okay that's so now let's what let's vote on that let's vote on that one all right we voted didn't we no no we did not vote on that we did not vote [0:50:09, 0:50:12]: All in favor, all in favor, please indicate. [0:50:14, 0:50:21]: He was naming conditions. But okay, hold a second. So uh Miss Barber, uh are you f for or against or sustain? [0:50:22, 0:50:25]: I need for Councilman Thomas. [0:50:25, 0:50:30]: to again share what the conditions are to this motion. [0:50:30, 0:50:30]: We [0:50:31, 0:50:38]: The conditions dealt with the doing the quarterly updates is what it what they're dealt with for each one of those three. [0:50:38, 0:50:42]: Of those particular contracts for item seven [0:50:42, 0:50:45]: Seven, eight, and nine. [0:50:46, 0:50:50]: And ten. And ten. And ten. And ten. On the consent data. [0:50:51, 0:50:54]: So I need for him to finish the conditions. [0:50:54, 0:50:55]: What? [0:50:56, 0:51:04]: No, no, no, no, ma'am. What it is is that we vote we we we've made a motion to change that. We're voting on that particular motion. Now he has another one to add to that. Okay. [0:51:04, 0:51:08]: That's what we're doing. Well it with conditions. [0:51:09, 0:51:10]: Mm-hmm. [0:51:11, 0:51:13]: Do you want me to read the condition? [0:51:13, 0:51:22]: Get any condition one more time. We'll take one more vote. Okay, so Councilman Thomas motion to amend the the consent agenda. [0:51:23, 0:51:35]: Whereas the contracts for Falcon, Carter and Sloop, Interdev, and Kekinwood would include status update for the projects and timelines. [0:51:36, 0:51:54]: and quarterly reports that needs to be added to their contracts. That's what the motion was seconded by councilwoman. Second by councilwoman Gantt. All in favor of all you've already voted, Mayor. Okay. Well stand by sir. No, we haven't stand by stand by please. All in favor of that motion, please indicate. [0:51:55, 0:52:01]: One more time. All right. So you now decision. Now now, Mr. Thomas, back to you for the third. No, that wasn't Miss G Miss Barber did not vote. [0:52:02, 0:52:05]: You did not vote? You you were sustained? [0:52:05, 0:52:06]: You abstained? [0:52:07, 0:52:08]: What did you do? [0:52:09, 0:52:15]: So I wanna ask Council. Stop stop stop. Did you vote or did you sustain? [0:52:15, 0:52:24]: No, which one did you do? What I'm asking is if councilman Thomas he's already the motion's passed motion has passed. [0:52:24, 0:52:26]: Will you add that to your motion? [0:52:26, 0:52:33]: Task staff to rebid all of these these three con these four contracts. [0:52:34, 0:52:35]: Test F. [0:52:35, 0:52:37]: To send these back out. [0:52:37, 0:52:38]: For we did. [0:52:40, 0:52:41]: That is not included in this motion. [0:52:42, 0:52:50]: Well, that's up to him to make that motion. Stand by a sec. On the previous motion, did you uh abstain or did you dec uh say no? [0:52:51, 0:52:56]: Ms. Barber? If he would add this conclusion, Ms. Barber, answer the question, Ms. Barber. [0:52:57, 0:52:59]: If he would add that condition, I will approve it. [0:53:00, 0:53:02]: Fit we've got to finish this particular piece of this. [0:53:02, 0:53:11]: Did you sustain? Are you adding another condition? Or no, not right now we're not items, Councilman Thomas. May Mayor Ford, may I respond? [0:53:11, 0:53:16]: Go ahead, sir. And I and I'm trying Mayor and I I'm trying to move this along. I'm I'm trying to [0:53:17, 0:53:19]: I'm trying to get an understanding. [0:53:20, 0:53:22]: On Mrs. Barber contention to [0:53:23, 0:53:27]: Um to put these back out for rebuilding. Is that correct? [0:53:28, 0:53:29]: Yes. [0:53:31, 0:53:33]: to put them out for rebid when? [0:53:35, 0:53:36]: Next year. [0:53:39, 0:53:43]: And and when what when the when they re when they expire? [0:53:44, 0:53:46]: Trying to make barring. [0:53:46, 0:53:48]: But can we do that at that time? [0:53:49, 0:53:53]: No, sir, because staff needs to know ahead of time. [0:53:54, 0:53:55]: To rebid these. [0:53:56, 0:53:59]: Otherwise we'll find ourselves in the same situation. [0:53:59, 0:54:01]: as we are right now. [0:54:02, 0:54:07]: Okay, Map for I I do not have a problem in adding that language. [0:54:07, 0:54:09]: to my motion if [0:54:11, 0:54:15]: I mean if if I I don't have a problem with that. If if that needs to be [0:54:15, 0:54:16]: I don't have a problem with that. [0:54:17, 0:54:20]: But I just I'm I'm trying to understand, I'm trying to move along. [0:54:20, 0:54:25]: See my contention going back to November was the fact that for the updates. [0:54:25, 0:54:31]: And and I spoke to you, you the mayor and and the attorney. So that's all I was trying to accomplish here tonight. [0:54:32, 0:54:32]: Um [0:54:33, 0:54:53]: And and we and we I will say we've accomplished that. I've talked to uh the attorney about that. That's why I did this earlier in the in the meeting. So you we've had that part of that motion and all actually out the motion passed. Okay. It passed regardless, it passed. Now unless you want and and I guess I'll have to figure if you want to go back and amend a motion that's already passed. [0:54:53, 0:55:01]: I would imagine by you being an initiator of that motion, you could probably do that by Roberts Rule. But if it's already passed, what with your previous project. [0:55:02, 0:55:05]: Okay. I will add to my motion. [0:55:05, 0:55:05]: Mm-hmm. [0:55:07, 0:55:09]: I I I yield to to [0:55:09, 0:55:13]: Ms. Gang, go ahead, please. Thank you. Um [0:55:13, 0:55:17]: Councilman Thomas, if you don't mind, you can make a separate motion. [0:55:18, 0:55:19]: Um [0:55:19, 0:55:25]: And we've already voted on this and it made sense. We've asked for quarterly reports. [0:55:25, 0:55:30]: And we voted on it. Um, the majority of council has voted for that. [0:55:31, 0:55:51]: If we want right now we are bearing off of our agenda all the way we're doing policies and procedures for procurement again, even after we had our attorneys in the past go and write up their recommendations on the way our procedures for procurement should be. [0:55:51, 0:55:51]: [3352.2, 3353.9]: We hire the best. [0:55:54, 0:56:08]: Um Memphis talks about it all the time. Our HR and our and our staff and our city manager, when they do their interviews for procurement and for any other department, they hire the best. They make sure that those people are qualified and they know what to do. [0:56:09, 0:56:14]: Right now we have went from we've went far left from our agenda. [0:56:15, 0:56:24]: And I agree with you, um Councilman Thomas. We did discuss this and asked for quarterly. You amended that to be a part of the consent. [0:56:24, 0:56:40]: Everybody has agreed upon that. Now we can go, I don't say amend and take off from the agenda. My recommendation is if you want to add another additional item to the agenda, just make a motion to do that if there's something else you want to bring up. That's it. [0:56:41, 0:56:46]: Because right now we are going around in circles. We've already voted for that and we're all agreeing to it. [0:56:48, 0:56:53]: Okay. Uh Mayor Ford in in an attempt to just move forward. [0:56:53, 0:56:55]: I like to um [0:56:56, 0:56:59]: amend and add to to that motion to [0:56:59, 0:57:09]: Um and I don't know how to make this motion, but to uh test staff to uh put these bids back out uh in in in one year. [0:57:10, 0:57:16]: Second. Okay. April tempt second that. Mr. Blount, you had some discussion, sir. [0:57:17, 0:57:21]: Uh thank you, man. Jeremy, correct me if I'm wrong. [0:57:22, 0:57:24]: Whatever без дайна. [0:57:25, 0:57:26]: For a year. [0:57:26, 0:57:33]: They go back out in a year anyway without the without another motion to do that. That's [0:57:33, 0:57:40]: We've already those bids go back out anyway. They're not an automatic renewal. We've already said that. [0:57:40, 0:57:47]: Correct. The contracts need to be renewed by council in a year. Anyway, so what are we voting on? [0:57:48, 0:57:51]: This it I'm saying we're prolonging this meeting. [0:57:51, 0:58:11]: offers offer this stuff and this this happens anyway, people. Why don't we start the meeting and do what we're supposed to do and be about the people's business instead of trying to run one department when the procedure that we're voting on is already in place? It makes no sense. Oh so Mayor Ford, let me ask uh Mr. Bear, would you recommend I just with [0:58:11, 0:58:14]: draw that last part because it happens anyway. [0:58:19, 0:58:20]: Mr. Beer. [0:58:21, 0:58:23]: Sorry, it took me a second to unmute. [0:58:23, 0:58:24]: I mean I I I would think [0:58:25, 0:58:26]: Right. [0:58:27, 0:58:29]: A contract has to come back to council. [0:58:29, 0:58:35]: at the anniversary date, whenever that is, for renewal, or to decide to put it back out to bid. [0:58:36, 0:58:41]: Perhaps there could be a resolution or something a different resolution that says [0:58:41, 0:58:43]: You know, that y'all want information. [0:58:44, 0:58:52]: Four months, six months, whatever it is before contract renewal to decide up or down whether you want to proceed, whether the council wants to proceed. [0:58:52, 0:58:55]: with renewal or putting it back out to bid. [0:58:55, 0:59:00]: So I'm not sure if exactly if I answered your question. I I guess I'm sort of procedurally confused where we are right now. [0:59:01, 0:59:03]: Uh yeah uh [0:59:03, 0:59:07]: I will withdraw that particular motion, Mayor Ford. [0:59:08, 0:59:28]: All right. And I'll and I'll just move forward. I think at some point we're going to have to come back and ask for that, which you just stated about uh uh an advanced notice to for the renewal. So the second part of my motion, Mayor, if I may, so we can try to get through uh motion to approve immediate use of the city. [0:59:28, 0:59:30]: [3570.8, 3574.1]: To provide to the governing body in advance. [0:59:34, 0:59:36]: of request for approval. [0:59:37, 0:59:43]: to award all future contract with language and content that protects the city. [0:59:44, 0:59:47]: Um and from my understanding that is a template. [0:59:48, 0:59:50]: Uh for contracts. [0:59:50, 0:59:56]: And I'm my motion is for us to use that template going forward for all future contracts. [0:59:56, 1:00:07]: All right. Is there a second to that motion? Is there a second? Sir. May I put them second to that motion? All right. Mayor go. Yes, what's your question, sir? Go ahead, please. [1:00:08, 1:00:18]: When we talk about templates, are we talking about procurement templates that would probably have information that the governing elected body shouldn't get prior to? [1:00:18, 1:00:33]: certain steps in that template. This is where I'm getting kind of confused at because when we discussed this earlier on in the year, we talked about procedures that should not go to the governing body, the elected body, prior to [1:00:34, 1:00:39]: Uh the finalizing of certain procedures and policies pertaining to contracts. [1:00:40, 1:00:51]: Jeremy, where are we what are we actually voting on here? Because this comes in contradictory of what we were told earlier by you and and other people when it came to contracts and and and uh [1:00:51, 1:01:01]: Not actually having those contracts unveiled and unfolded and given to the elective body prior to other procedures being done before those contracts are awarded. Uh Mr. Jeremy, Berry? [1:01:02, 1:01:12]: Councilmember Blount, I right. The recommendation I made before was for an actual pending contract to decide some period of time, four months, six months, whatever it is, three months. [1:01:13, 1:01:18]: before renewal, whether to renew the contract or put it back out to bid. [1:01:18, 1:01:19]: I was [1:01:20, 1:01:26]: I I think that's fine. That is the role of council. Maybe what we were thinking about before is [1:01:26, 1:01:33]: Council should not get to decide winners and losers in terms of companies A, B, and C bid. We council want B. [1:01:34, 1:01:35]: That that's not [1:01:35, 1:01:40]: Council's role, that's more that's appropriate for the procurement department to run the procurement. [1:01:40, 1:01:43]: But it's certainly within councils uh [1:01:43, 1:01:49]: you know, jurisdiction to say, yes, we want to proceed with such and such company or we want to put this back out to bid. [1:01:50, 1:01:53]: Well, a follow up to that then, if you would, Mayor. [1:01:53, 1:02:13]: When we start to now get so far into procurement, when we start to say, okay, let's move forward with this company and that company, what is the then what is the grading process? Why would we have a grading process by those department heads in those areas? Now the council can decide when we move forward with this. We have to be careful and call. [1:02:13, 1:02:14]: After this. [1:02:14, 1:02:34]: When we start to move in these areas, Jeremy, because when you start to allow the elected body to decide to move forward with such companies or whatever companies, then the the grading or the uh uh the the grading process or those contracts can now look tainted or flawed because the elected body is now in the process saying. [1:02:34, 1:02:36]: who we're going to go forward with. [1:02:36, 1:02:42]: I council member, I I fully agree with you and there there's a a fine line or a gray area. [1:02:42, 1:02:46]: If a company's over budget, if they're behind schedule, if they're not doing a good job. [1:02:47, 1:02:52]: Or, you know, as council member uh barber said earlier, if someone's been in place for ten years. [1:02:52, 1:02:54]: You may just say it's time to put this back out on the street. [1:02:55, 1:02:56]: So there there's [1:02:57, 1:02:58]: But we're talking two different things, Jeremy. [1:02:59, 1:03:03]: If we're talking about not renewing someone's contract is one thing. [1:03:04, 1:03:16]: But the process that we're talking about putting in place that this this now elected body is involved in the procurement process or who moves forward in the process, we should not be a part of that. [1:03:17, 1:03:37]: Not the elected body, but the renewal of a contract or the continuation of a contract. We it's in our privilege to do that, but not to be involved in the in the process of saying which company in the procurement process that we want to move forward. That's we should not operate in gray areas. [1:03:37, 1:03:39]: When it comes to the elected body, it should be black and white. [1:03:40, 1:03:48]: Right. Understood. Understood, council member. And perhaps my my choice of words wasn't perfect. All I'm saying is in terms of picking if five companies bid. [1:03:48, 1:03:52]: And the evaluation committee recommends company number one. [1:03:52, 1:03:57]: That to me is different than okay, we the city have contracted with company number one. [1:03:57, 1:04:05]: And they've done a phenomenal job. Let's let them move forward. Or if the the right head of the agency, the correct head of the agency says, [1:04:05, 1:04:07]: No council, we should not proceed. [1:04:08, 1:04:12]: over budget. They've done a bad job. They're terrible to work with. [1:04:12, 1:04:19]: You know, they're they're bankrupt, whatever it is, that is entirely appropriate for the council to do because the council looking out [1:04:19, 1:04:22]: interest in the financial well being of the city. [1:04:22, 1:04:35]: So that's different than saying that pop that procedure is already in place. We as an elected body has the right to say right now who moves forward. Agree the things that I've done. I'm not disagreeing with you. [1:04:35, 1:04:40]: I I agree with you. I fully agree with you. But what are we doing? [1:04:41, 1:04:41]: All right. [1:04:42, 1:04:44]: We had we we've been sitting here a whole hour. [1:04:44, 1:04:55]: talking about policies and procedures that we already have in place. Let's get to this council meeting and be about the citizens' business. We're talking about things that are already in place. [1:04:55, 1:04:58]: Why we vote on something that we already had a right to do? [1:04:58, 1:05:01]: It makes no sense. [1:05:02, 1:05:03]: Never mind. [1:05:03, 1:05:12]: Ms. Barber, go ahead. Yes. Um my understanding, Councilman Thomas was simply asking about the standard language of the contract. [1:05:13, 1:05:13]: The template. [1:05:14, 1:05:15]: What's in black and white? [1:05:16, 1:05:18]: The template that is used. [1:05:18, 1:05:20]: For the executed contract. [1:05:20, 1:05:25]: This has nothing to do with evaluating and rating bids and proposals. [1:05:25, 1:05:29]: rankings of bids should not come to this council, but it did. [1:05:29, 1:05:31]: It should never come to this council. [1:05:31, 1:05:32]: Evaluating. [1:05:33, 1:05:37]: Any supplier or contractor is not the role of the governing body. [1:05:38, 1:05:40]: However, when it comes to the policies [1:05:41, 1:05:44]: of this city. That is our responsibility. [1:05:45, 1:05:48]: Councilman Thomas is speaking specifically about the [1:05:48, 1:05:52]: template of the contact language and I agree. [1:05:53, 1:05:55]: That's all. All right, Mr. Thomas. [1:05:55, 1:05:58]: Mr. Thomas, go ahead, sir. May I may have for [1:05:58, 1:06:01]: All I was attempting to do was to [1:06:02, 1:06:02]: Um [1:06:03, 1:06:07]: Make sure that with with with our contractors. [1:06:07, 1:06:11]: I thought it was important and I think going back to the November meeting. [1:06:11, 1:06:15]: I think it was clear to me, I'm not sure with anyone else, that we needed [1:06:16, 1:06:25]: Uh, the update. We needed that information in order for us to go forward. That's why for the last two months, I just insisted about the update. [1:06:25, 1:06:27]: And that's all I was attempting to do today. [1:06:28, 1:06:31]: Now and and that is a template in place. [1:06:32, 1:06:35]: Um to move the process forward. [1:06:35, 1:06:36]: So [1:06:37, 1:06:43]: Some of these comments are not what I am recommending and and it's not about my emotion. [1:06:43, 1:06:46]: So my motion is is clear cut. [1:06:46, 1:06:50]: And I think it's been second uh and it's been voted. [1:06:50, 1:06:58]: So no, no, it hasn't been voted on just yet. It's been you made a motion, Mayor Putin second that motion. How about this? All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:07:00, 1:07:01]: Okay. [1:07:02, 1:07:05]: Anybody all all approved? All right. Anybody oppose? [1:07:06, 1:07:07]: Abstain. [1:07:09, 1:07:10]: Mr. Blount, you should abstain. [1:07:11, 1:07:11]: Miss Gat. [1:07:12, 1:07:13]: That's funny. [1:07:13, 1:07:19]: Okay, so it's 302. All right. Now I need a motion for the overall agenda itself. [1:07:20, 1:07:22]: Uh I need a motion to accept the overall agenda itself. [1:07:23, 1:07:25]: Is there f is there a motion to [1:07:26, 1:07:32]: So move to something here. Anybody? So move. With all this. With all move is Gantt. Is there a second? [1:07:32, 1:07:35]: Certain. All right. All in favor, please indicate. [1:07:37, 1:07:40]: All right. Okay. Thank you. I think that was the answer. Okay. Now on that note. [1:07:41, 1:07:42]: We have [1:07:45, 1:07:47]: Ms. Holiday, do we have any public comments? [1:07:47, 1:07:57]: We have no public comments, Mayor. All right. We'll move on. And we've all we've got to the consent agenda. We've already done a motion for the consent agenda. Uh so I would say that um [1:07:58, 1:08:08]: We've added it to so it's a consent agenda with the additional that the item that we added in reference to the quarterly reports. Uh it's already been approved. So I would imagine we just got to go through this process one more time. [1:08:09, 1:08:14]: Is there a motion to accept uh everything on the over over on the agenda, uh consent agenda for this evening? [1:08:15, 1:08:16]: Mayor. Yes, sir. [1:08:17, 1:08:28]: Um I I I'll approve the consent agenda with the uh stipulations that I made it uh earlier with the motions. I protest second, all favor, please indicate. [1:08:31, 1:08:35]: Okay. Mr. Blount, I'm sorry. I you voted, sir. [1:08:36, 1:08:38]: Okay for Miss Ms. Barber. [1:08:38, 1:08:43]: I abstain and I'd like to add a comment, please. Okay, one second. Four zero one. What's your comment? [1:08:44, 1:08:45]: Okay. Um [1:08:45, 1:08:47]: My comment is [1:08:47, 1:08:49]: Staff needs to be directed. [1:08:50, 1:08:51]: To rebid. [1:08:51, 1:08:52]: These contracts. [1:08:53, 1:08:57]: Otherwise, we're gonna find ourselves in the same situation next year. [1:08:57, 1:08:58]: They'll be coming back to us. [1:08:59, 1:08:59]: Four. [1:09:00, 1:09:01]: Council consideration. [1:09:02, 1:09:03]: To extend. [1:09:04, 1:09:05]: The contract. [1:09:05, 1:09:06]: All I'm asking. [1:09:07, 1:09:09]: Is that we pass that. [1:09:09, 1:09:10]: Від критерія. [1:09:11, 1:09:13]: that they can use and we will know. [1:09:14, 1:09:17]: when these contracts are going back out for bid. [1:09:18, 1:09:25]: I understand the terms of every service and contract that the city has is different. [1:09:25, 1:09:30]: Some contracts, there are three-year terms. Some of them are annual. [1:09:30, 1:09:32]: Some are two years, some are five years. [1:09:33, 1:09:35]: We need to test staff. [1:09:35, 1:09:36]: Well [1:09:36, 1:09:38]: Putting these advertisements in [1:09:39, 1:09:39]: Back out. [1:09:40, 1:09:40]: Four B. [1:09:41, 1:09:45]: We've had contracts in place since 2016. [1:09:45, 1:09:49]: And we are stick contracts that were awarded in twenty sixteen. [1:09:50, 1:09:53]: that are still active and they have not gone back out. [1:09:53, 1:09:57]: To review it. That's all. So I'm upset. It's well noted. [1:10:00, 1:10:01]: It's been noted. Mr. Blount. [1:10:03, 1:10:06]: Mayor, when you're talking about contracts. [1:10:06, 1:10:09]: It's never one size fit all. [1:10:10, 1:10:12]: If you got a contractor doing a project. [1:10:13, 1:10:17]: And that contract is for a year, yet that project is extended. [1:10:18, 1:10:20]: We do not have to put it out for bid. [1:10:22, 1:10:24]: We only talked about an extension of that project. [1:10:25, 1:10:30]: This is not a one size fit all with all the stuff that we're doing here in the city of Stockbridge. [1:10:31, 1:10:42]: You can't just say you put all contracts out for bid and motion and that's in stone because it's each the it's not a one size fit all situation. [1:10:43, 1:10:44]: You can't do that. [1:10:46, 1:11:05]: All right, comment well noted. There's no old business. Public hearing. First public hearing. Will we deal with number 11? Rezoning case number RZ 2021-02 and comprehensive plan amendment case number CP two zero two one-zero two presented by Miss Logan. Miss Logan, please. [1:11:06, 1:11:20]: Uh Mayor Ford, if I may, this is uh Bradford Johnson. Uh the applicants withdrew their application but after we advertised for this meeting. So we did have to keep it on the agenda, but they have withdrawn their application at this time. [1:11:20, 1:11:21]: And uh [1:11:21, 1:11:29]: All right. So on that note, then uh my attorneys here, the attorneys if they if the applicant withdraw them, then it's no need to have a public hearing, correct? [1:11:30, 1:11:31]: Well. [1:11:31, 1:11:32]: All right. [1:11:32, 1:11:33]: So that [1:11:34, 1:11:39]: And no need to have public here, no need to vote. They withdrew. Do you have any idea when they're planning to come back? Or is already Ms. Johnson? [1:11:40, 1:11:46]: Um no, sir. They're actually awaiting the UDC to be adopted for the new code to come into place. All right. [1:11:47, 1:11:52]: What we have next to public hearing, third reading, and final adoption of FY 2022 operating budget. [1:11:52, 1:11:55]: Uh Mr. Wiggins, it's on you, sir. [1:11:56, 1:12:01]: Okay, thank you, Mayor. Um I'm gonna share my screen just to show the uh PowerPoint. [1:12:25, 1:12:28]: Can everyone see my PowerPoint? Yeah, see, can't see anything, sir. [1:12:28, 1:12:30]: I I see everybody here. Don't see your screen. [1:12:31, 1:12:32]: Okay. [1:12:32, 1:12:34]: Mr Bond, are you able to give him [1:12:35, 1:12:36]: Used to that screen. [1:12:37, 1:12:38]: Share screen there. [1:12:39, 1:12:40]: Yes, he has the ability. [1:12:41, 1:12:43]: There we go. I think we're we're okay. There we go. [1:12:46, 1:12:46]: Thank you, sir. [1:13:01, 1:13:02]: All right, everybody can see that. [1:13:02, 1:13:08]: Well yeah, well yeah, but uh is this uh you are you gonna click on a pr a presentation here? [1:13:09, 1:13:15]: We just see your files. Yeah, that's it. That's all we see. Oh, sorry. Sorry. You see all the files on your desktop. [1:13:15, 1:13:17]: Went went to the wrong screen. [1:13:18, 1:13:18]: Okay. [1:13:21, 1:13:21]: All right, how's that? [1:13:22, 1:13:23]: No. [1:13:24, 1:13:25]: May have a drag it over, John. [1:13:27, 1:13:27]: Are the [1:13:33, 1:13:33]: Well by now. [1:13:35, 1:13:42]: Still see your screen. I mean uh the files there, sir. To minimize that list, John. That uh list of files. Minimize it for him. [1:13:43, 1:13:43]: Gotcha. [1:13:50, 1:13:50]: Okay. [1:13:52, 1:13:53]: No, still still your files. [1:13:55, 1:13:55]: Okay. [1:14:01, 1:14:02]: Right. [1:14:03, 1:14:04]: I'm sorry, but yeah, I [1:14:14, 1:14:15]: I'm not sure why it's not. [1:14:27, 1:14:28]: Now can you see it? [1:14:29, 1:14:32]: Okay, now we okay. I think uh you got to uh [1:14:34, 1:14:38]: We can see it there, but uh you need to adjust it so we get a better look at it. [1:14:42, 1:14:43]: How's it? Is it weak enough? [1:14:45, 1:14:46]: Uh no no sir. Um [1:14:48, 1:14:54]: think you have to have to minimize it or something because get it all on the screen because we can't really get a whoa. [1:14:56, 1:14:57]: And that was that's not a [1:14:58, 1:14:58]: Okay. [1:14:59, 1:15:00]: Huh. [1:15:00, 1:15:01]: There you can see it, right? [1:15:02, 1:15:03]: That's uh that's a better look, yes sir. [1:15:04, 1:15:05]: Okay. [1:15:08, 1:15:09]: Family, okay. [1:15:12, 1:15:21]: All right, the city of Stockbridge proposed the FY 2022 budget hearing third reading for December 13th, 2021. [1:15:22, 1:15:24]: Uh as of now [1:15:25, 1:15:37]: There's no changes. We still have the same same numbers as the reading from the uh November 30th, second reading. We still have the general fund at uh 18. [1:15:37, 1:15:45]: Uh two, we got enterprise fund at 30 24.9, giving us a total of 43.1. [1:15:45, 1:15:46]: Million. [1:15:47, 1:15:50]: Um, we still have some of the same changes we had. [1:15:51, 1:15:52]: From the second budget. [1:15:53, 1:15:57]: Um re on the reading for November third that uh [1:15:57, 1:15:58]: For this particular reading. [1:15:58, 1:15:59]: No. [1:16:00, 1:16:02]: In in light of all that with this third reading. [1:16:03, 1:16:05]: There has been some um [1:16:06, 1:16:07]: Um [1:16:08, 1:16:09]: Some council um [1:16:10, 1:16:21]: budget recommendations that's been out there. Uh I think I emailed uh everybody a a some of the recommendations I think at this particular junction. [1:16:22, 1:16:22]: Uh [1:16:23, 1:16:25]: Can also need these two. [1:16:25, 1:16:26]: Uh [1:16:27, 1:16:29]: Direct staff or [1:16:29, 1:16:37]: Tell us to uh make the changes and you know for and if um if the lawyers can can um [1:16:38, 1:16:46]: If I'm going the right direction, we might have to have if they can't agree tonight on the particular recommendations from a discussion. [1:16:46, 1:16:51]: Probably need to probably have a special call meeting just to uh get the final adoption. [1:16:52, 1:17:12]: Well, let me ask you this, Mr. Wiggins. You sent out some recommendations that were discussed with some council members, and we need to try to go through that process and see if we have an agreement in reference to the rest of the entire council. And the and so whatever we do, it's got the the count, the budget has to it has to match. Everything has to match up properly. So the first bullet comment I saw that was [1:17:12, 1:17:31]: hundred thousand dollars in the budget for the North Henry Boulevard beautifications is what I saw on my my list. Is that correct? Yeah that's correct. Okay. So um how about we discuss this? Does that make sense, Council? Do you do you want to want wanna uh add that in there in the budget to make sure that we cover down on this beautification effort in North Henry Boulevard? [1:17:31, 1:17:33]: Some more [1:17:35, 1:17:36]: Zero second. [1:17:36, 1:17:37]: A second. [1:17:37, 1:17:39]: Any further discussion on that? [1:17:40, 1:17:42]: Mayor. Yes, sir. [1:17:43, 1:17:49]: Well uh when while approving these, I just want us to make sure and and I need to see. [1:17:49, 1:17:53]: Um where we are with the budget and where we're gonna be. [1:17:54, 1:17:56]: And the completion of this budget uh [1:17:57, 1:17:58]: I'm for a [1:17:58, 1:18:03]: uh monies for beautification, but I need to make sure [1:18:03, 1:18:03]: Uh [1:18:04, 1:18:06]: But Mr. Wiggins. [1:18:06, 1:18:19]: where we are and and where we're gonna go over budget that will have to be pulled from fund balance after all said and done. Because we're we're while we're proving monies, but the last adoption of this budget, because we're just now starting in it. [1:18:20, 1:18:25]: Now to discuss these items tonight. I just want to see where we are at the end. [1:18:25, 1:18:35]: of all the increases with the budget in order that we adopt uh the budget with what whatever increases is that will have to be pulled from other areas, including fund balance. [1:18:37, 1:18:38]: Okay. [1:18:38, 1:18:45]: Thanks. Mayor, you know. But right now that hundred thousand is already in the budget, so it's already balanced. [1:18:45, 1:18:51]: It's I'm fine with that. Then I'm good. I'm good. It's in the public works budget and they they have a uh it's accounted for. [1:18:52, 1:18:54]: All right. Any further questions? [1:18:54, 1:18:58]: I just want to make one one uh correction to what was said. [1:18:59, 1:19:01]: As Mr. Blount has indicated. [1:19:02, 1:19:05]: Everything that we've talked about has been available. [1:19:05, 1:19:08]: Out there, Mr. Wiggins sent this to us before the meeting. [1:19:09, 1:19:13]: And any questions could have been asked at that time. I think he made that point on a previous item. [1:19:14, 1:19:19]: And yes, on this item, the same thing applies. So if anybody had any questions. [1:19:19, 1:19:23]: We've had this is the third reading of the budget at this point. And we were all asked. [1:19:23, 1:19:25]: To submit our [1:19:25, 1:19:29]: uh suggestions. These were some of the suggestions that have been bandied around. [1:19:30, 1:19:41]: And um, you know, at this point, again, I'm glad that's already in the budget because we had discussed it previously and Mr. Wiggins put it in the budget, uh uh based on the council consensus. So I call for the vote. [1:19:41, 1:19:43]: Yes, ma'am. [1:19:43, 1:19:45]: I just want to know what's the total budget. [1:19:48, 1:19:51]: Mr. Wiggins will give us a total amount of our budget for next year. [1:19:52, 1:19:58]: As it's saying it would be forty three million one hundred ninety three thousand ninety six thousand fifty nine. [1:20:00, 1:20:05]: That's the total budget that's including your general fund and your enterprise funds. [1:20:09, 1:20:13]: So right now as it stands, we have a budget of forty three million dollars. [1:20:13, 1:20:14]: That's correct. [1:20:20, 1:20:23]: How much of that is gonna come from our fund balance? [1:20:26, 1:20:27]: Yeah. [1:20:30, 1:20:38]: Good question. Um what's gonna come from the fund balance is gonna be your CIP. And I think that's about 10 million of that. [1:20:40, 1:20:43]: That'll be in the prize phone. Oh my gosh. [1:20:45, 1:20:49]: Okay. I will be voting no to the budget. Thank you. [1:20:50, 1:20:55]: I don't I don't think that that is correct, Mr. Wiggins. I want you to look at that. I I don't believe that's correct. [1:20:56, 1:20:57]: But let's move on. [1:20:59, 1:21:05]: Therefore. Get the get the correct mr have Mr. Wiggins bring us the correct information because that's not it. [1:21:08, 1:21:10]: But let's vote on this item so we can move forward. [1:21:13, 1:21:17]: Mayor, I can't vote on any item if that budget is 43 million. [1:21:18, 1:21:24]: Let me just make it make um on on that 10 million that's part of the enterprise fund. [1:21:25, 1:21:30]: But look at looking at the CIP, uh, we're gonna have um [1:21:33, 1:21:34]: Please. [1:21:36, 1:21:41]: Most most of the uh the the fund balance is gonna be the [1:21:47, 1:22:01]: Look, it's uh I I need to make that correction. It's gonna look like it's gonna be about at least two million because right it's not it's certainly not gonna be ten. The only two was maybe for the police department. Maybe you got two because it's gonna be [1:22:01, 1:22:02]: Splash fire. [1:22:03, 1:22:15]: We still got some spots for it that we got that we that we're spending. And we're gonna have uh uh bond money that we're gonna use for the cultural arts center as as um [1:22:16, 1:22:19]: And that would take up most of our [1:22:19, 1:22:24]: the money from uh the CIP. So it's gonna be uh in the range of about two million. [1:22:24, 1:22:27]: Mr. Wiggins, the splos money had already been accounted for. [1:22:28, 1:22:36]: Yeah, the splash five, which we're using for squash five, they had already been accounted for, plus we bunded out money. [1:22:36, 1:22:40]: And we have we went from thirteen million dollar budget. [1:22:41, 1:22:45]: to a forty three million dollar budget, understanding that we're getting a police department. [1:22:46, 1:23:00]: But but I I just can't I can't vote for that. I'm sorry. I can't vote for anything with this budget. When you say total, you're you're when you say total, uh councilwoman, you you're talking about the total budget, which is including your enterprise funds. [1:23:00, 1:23:03]: Yeah. You just talking about the general fund. [1:23:03, 1:23:05]: Jump fund's gonna be AT meet. [1:23:05, 1:23:09]: Okay. One million of that is going to be police department. [1:23:10, 1:23:12]: Okay. How many million? [1:23:13, 1:23:17]: By four by four by four million is gonna be the beast be the police department. [1:23:18, 1:23:21]: By three by two, I'm sorry, three by three point three. [1:23:21, 1:23:22]: It's gonna be police department. [1:23:23, 1:23:23]: Okay. [1:23:26, 1:23:40]: And right now we're we're we're at the junction where we we're using for that some opera funds. Right. And and and some of that is gonna and and we are gonna have to use fund balance for that, but not as much. [1:23:41, 1:23:44]: What's your estimated amount for fund balance? [1:23:44, 1:23:48]: By the probably by the by the meaning for police department for fund balance. [1:23:48, 1:23:50]: Rest of it's gonna be ARPA funds. [1:23:51, 1:23:57]: And then once we do this for this upcoming year, the following years thereafter. [1:23:58, 1:24:08]: You're talking about the twenty twenty two budget. Point of order. Alexander, I didn't ask you for a dwarf. Point of order. Stand by. [1:24:09, 1:24:13]: It's financial responsibility. Good good. We're talking about year to year. [1:24:14, 1:24:20]: you know, w we will have to uh uh uh you know discuss that. [1:24:21, 1:24:26]: and and and and get with our financial advisor to look at it again because he's already told us that you know [1:24:27, 1:24:28]: Yeah, one [1:24:28, 1:24:28]: Міну [1:24:28, 1:24:30]: This first year [1:24:31, 1:24:31]: You know [1:24:32, 1:24:45]: going to that share, we're gonna probably have to do some type of tax. But right now, as you see, as you've seen, we're using ARPA funds and we got, we also have a a a bond for the police department, three, three million. [1:24:46, 1:24:48]: So right now [1:24:48, 1:24:54]: Three million will be taken care of any kind of capital, any kind of uh uh uh uh equipment for the police department. [1:24:55, 1:24:59]: ARPA funds we'll be able to uh uh use that for some of the [1:25:00, 1:25:02]: Operations now. So [1:25:02, 1:25:04]: You know, going from year to year. [1:25:07, 1:25:09]: That's kind of hard to discuss right now. [1:25:11, 1:25:11]: All right. [1:25:11, 1:25:23]: So we what we have the motion on the floor is for this one thing. This it point of order. That that is the motion on the floor. So let's just try to stay within that particular compound. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [1:25:24, 1:25:27]: Uh m Mr. Wiggins, yes. Um [1:25:27, 1:25:30]: What would probably help out a whole lot with these figures? [1:25:31, 1:25:45]: And and I agree in looking at other figures, but you don't have a slide that the citizens can see to back these figures. And if any question be answered, we can point to how we get to these figures and what we have to do. I'm just saying that. [1:25:45, 1:25:51]: Is the only slide we have showing the general fund, enterprise fund and the total. You don't have anything else for us? [1:25:53, 1:26:00]: I can pull up the budget that was sent out to everybody. We can go from um uh uh department to department. [1:26:02, 1:26:04]: No no, what I'm saying, Mr. Wiggins, is [1:26:05, 1:26:07]: I'm not talking about bringing the citizens. [1:26:07, 1:26:18]: An itemized budget that we get as a council and we go line by line. I'm talking about numbers of almost a bullet point from the budget to show. [1:26:18, 1:26:20]: Fund balance, what the increase has been, all the [1:26:21, 1:26:30]: This is not enough to show the citizens how we get here and how we come out of here because this looks like a detriment to any citizen that would look at this. [1:26:30, 1:26:31]: Mm. [1:26:32, 1:26:41]: It looks like a detriment to anybody that has a lack of understanding of what this is. When we talk about a budget that the city has incurred, which is about twelve million dollars. [1:26:41, 1:26:45]: And now that you're looking at a total now when you talk about forty three and you're talking about the eighty [1:26:46, 1:26:47]: I'm just talking about [1:26:47, 1:26:54]: Is there anything else we can show the citizens that wouldn't be alarmed by this other than this right here? [1:26:56, 1:26:58]: At this particular time I do not. [1:27:00, 1:27:15]: All right. Mr. Thomas, go ahead. Mayor Ford uh and Mr. Wiggins, uh I I had a discussion with Mr. Wiggins and and uh I'm just prepared tonight to make motions and one of my motions was gone. [1:27:16, 1:27:18]: Request uh the city treasury to [1:27:19, 1:27:22]: uh make um reports as well. [1:27:23, 1:27:27]: That would include uh Councilman Councilman Blount, some of your concerns. [1:27:28, 1:27:37]: But that that is going to be one of my motions whenever we get to that point. I was going to make that motion that will require the treasury to provide those kind of um [1:27:37, 1:27:45]: uh reports to to council. And then from that, whatever we wanted to show to citizens, then I I think that information will be there. [1:27:47, 1:27:54]: Okay. Uh well right now there is a motion on the floor in reference to the hundred thousand dollars for the budget for North Henry Boulevard beautification. [1:27:55, 1:27:56]: Right. Mayor Fort. [1:27:57, 1:27:57]: Yes, ma'am. [1:27:58, 1:28:08]: I'm not against the hundred thousand dollars beautification. I'm against the make the budget itself though. So I'll vote for the beautification because the money's already set aside. [1:28:09, 1:28:11]: And and we've talked about this for a long time. [1:28:12, 1:28:17]: But that forty three million, something's gonna have to be done. I don't think we're gonna have a balanced budget tonight. [1:28:18, 1:28:19]: Okay. [1:28:19, 1:28:37]: Well, if not any comments on this one issue, all in favor of the motion that's on the floor deals with$100,000 in uh reference to beautification. All in favor of that motion, please indicate. Okay, looks like I let me see here. Is that a unanimous decision? Let's see. Ms. Blount, you for that? Miss Barber to vote? [1:28:41, 1:28:49]: I can't see the members, Mayor. You'll have to let me know what the vote is. I'm waiting for Miss Barber, whether or not she's in favor or or against or s abstain. [1:28:50, 1:28:51]: What is the motion again? Sorry. [1:28:52, 1:28:57]: It deals with a hundred thousand dollars for the beautification for North North Henry Boulevard. [1:28:58, 1:29:03]: I second that motion or has it already been second? No, it's already been seconded. I just need to vote one way or the other. [1:29:04, 1:29:05]: You're for it. [1:29:06, 1:29:15]: Excuse me? I approve. Okay. Then it's you must a holiday so unanimous decision. Thank you. You're welcome. All right. Now, um [1:29:16, 1:29:36]: Back to you, Mr. Thomas. Uh, because there are several different there's uh in in front of me, I have about seven, eight more different things that are on this list that uh items that Mr. Wiggins sent out to everybody um in this aspect. And I was will more than willing to go down this particular list. And actually there's something on this list that I uh that [1:29:36, 1:29:51]: that uh I know that part of a conversation you and I were involved with was not on here and it dealt with the historical preservation in this aspect. I don't see it on this particular list. And I don't that was a concern of yours earlier, earlier conversation we had uh I think it was last week. [1:29:52, 1:29:52]: Um [1:29:53, 1:29:56]: Yes, um I I do have um [1:29:57, 1:30:00]: several motions and I also spoke with um [1:30:01, 1:30:04]: community de development direct uh about that very issue. [1:30:05, 1:30:12]: Mayor, if if if if you're granting me the floor, uh, I'd like to just make a statement and then I'd like to read a couple of motions, if I may. [1:30:13, 1:30:16]: Yep. No problem. That's why I came to you, sir. Go ahead, please. [1:30:16, 1:30:18]: You know, a few weeks ago council [1:30:19, 1:30:21]: I I sort of indicated that. [1:30:21, 1:30:25]: Every year I go through the budget and I see where there's a lot of fat. [1:30:26, 1:30:27]: And you know [1:30:28, 1:30:30]: What I saw was [1:30:30, 1:30:33]: uh a million and a half that we actually could have cut. [1:30:33, 1:30:34]: So [1:30:35, 1:30:40]: The attempt uh the other week to for us to be able to [1:30:40, 1:30:43]: communicate with the directors in sort of to [1:30:43, 1:30:52]: have them to explain a lot of that fact. That was that attempt. Unfortunately, you know, we we we didn't start that process early enough. [1:30:53, 1:31:13]: to allow all council members to actually to have these conversations with these directors. And I think if we could have sort of gone through that, I think everyone would probably uh wouldn't have been able to see um you know what I saw as far as the fact. And we can still do that, you know, going forward, even though I know we're scheduled to approve [1:31:13, 1:31:19]: This budget tonight. Um, but just in in what what I received back from [1:31:19, 1:31:23]: Um, you know, some of the council members I was prepared to [1:31:23, 1:31:27]: uh read some of these motions. But as I stated to Mr. Wiggins. [1:31:27, 1:31:47]: Um, and he he should have captured all of these things because I know community development made some concessions, uh, public works made some concessions. And Mr. Wigan, I don't know if you captured all of that, but there were some concessions made. Uh, but I do have about six or seven motions. [1:31:47, 1:31:50]: that I'm willing to make tonight just based on [1:31:51, 1:31:57]: Um what I've heard back from uh other council members. So mayor, I could run through these and [1:31:57, 1:31:59]: And we can have some discussion. [1:32:00, 1:32:02]: And and we can just sort of just go from there. [1:32:03, 1:32:06]: Go ahead, sir. Well let first let me ask Mr. Wiggins though. [1:32:07, 1:32:09]: Uh Mr. Wigan, I know you sent this out. [1:32:10, 1:32:16]: And you know, and I spoke with you earlier too, Mr. Wigan. You indicated that you were going to read these off. [1:32:16, 1:32:19]: And share uh with council. [1:32:19, 1:32:25]: and then we were going to have discussion and and vote. But I I'm just going to go ahead and just read mine. So [1:32:25, 1:32:33]: Uh oh Mr. Wigan, uh do you want to uh do you want to share that? Do you have it where you can't share it or do I need to just go ahead and read some of these? [1:32:34, 1:32:48]: Uh I can share the spreadsheets that I sent out there. Okay, well m Ms. Wick, let me just go ahead and read these and then if you want to weigh in, we'll just do that. And council, please uh weigh in because this is how we're going to approve or not approve. [1:32:48, 1:32:52]: uh some uh uh adjustment to the budget. So [1:32:53, 1:32:54]: Uh my first motion [1:32:55, 1:32:56]: Um [1:33:00, 1:33:03]: Motion to amend the city's twenty twenty two. [1:33:04, 1:33:06]: Pay and classification. [1:33:07, 1:33:09]: And incorporate a minimum [1:33:09, 1:33:12]: Liveable wage of fifteen dollars per hour. [1:33:13, 1:33:18]: and make the necessary adjustment to all affected employees' salary. [1:33:19, 1:33:21]: Second, second. [1:33:21, 1:33:41]: Well, ms Ms. Mayor, let me ask you this question. Do you want me just to read them? Do you want to take them one by one? Well, let's take no, let's take them one by one, sir, because there may be some discussion about this. So one by one. And you made a motion. Mayor Pro Tem seconded that motion. Actually, that was also on the list that uh Mr. Wiggins had about a fifteen dollar hour minimum wage for city employees. [1:33:41, 1:33:45]: So motion been made been second. Any further discussion about that? [1:33:46, 1:33:50]: Mayor got a question. Yes, ma'am. Go write it, please. Is HR on here? [1:33:51, 1:33:54]: Uh HR is not on here at this point. [1:33:54, 1:34:03]: I just wanted to know who do we have any employees that make less than$15 an hour? Oh, absolutely we do. We surely do. Mr. Aaron. [1:34:03, 1:34:05]: You're online. You need to speak to that sir. [1:34:05, 1:34:08]: Yes, sir, we have some staff in public works. [1:34:08, 1:34:10]: That are below the fifteen dollars an hour. [1:34:11, 1:34:11]: Okay. [1:34:13, 1:34:14]: That's all I want. [1:34:15, 1:34:16]: Okay. [1:34:16, 1:34:29]: And and I will say Mr. Aaron and and um Wiggins, of course, upon further discussion and approval of this, uh obviously we can make this budget adjustment and with no problem. Is that right? To to take care of these employees. [1:34:30, 1:34:31]: That's correct. [1:34:32, 1:34:32]: Mr. Aaron? [1:34:33, 1:34:33]: Yes, sir. [1:34:33, 1:34:37]: All right. Any further discussion, Council? Oh, Mr. Blount. Go ahead, please. [1:34:38, 1:34:40]: Mm Mr. Wiggins. [1:34:40, 1:34:48]: What would be the adjustment to the budget on the amount of employees that need to have this adjustment? What would be the amount to the budget for that? [1:34:50, 1:34:54]: I don't know the amount right now. I will have to go and get each employee [1:34:55, 1:34:58]: That's making less than 15 and calculate that up. [1:34:59, 1:35:01]: But this is but I'm saying, but this is not. [1:35:01, 1:35:12]: I guess I guess we've all been saying it tonight. This has been on the agenda. And if we approve this adjustment, at least we could have the could have had the information to know what adjustment to the budget. We're approving the budget tonight. [1:35:13, 1:35:28]: We at least would've known gotten with HR or gotten with apartment heads or whoever uh and looked at, gotten with HR to find out what adjustment needs to be made for how many employees to understand what the total amount would be for us tonight if we vote on the budget tonight. [1:35:29, 1:35:33]: This amount should have been given to us. Not that I don't approve it. I approve that. [1:35:33, 1:35:35]: But I still would like to know. [1:35:36, 1:35:40]: what adjustments are gonna be made to the budget for it and I think we we should have had that information tonight. [1:35:41, 1:35:43]: Well that's why I said uh before. [1:35:43, 1:35:45]: I started uh uh [1:35:45, 1:35:46]: Put the reading. [1:35:47, 1:35:47]: Is that [1:35:47, 1:35:50]: You're probably gonna need to discuss with your [1:35:50, 1:35:51]: Councilmates on [1:35:52, 1:35:54]: The recommendation that's been made. [1:35:55, 1:35:58]: And then we will probably have to do some type of special call meeting. [1:35:58, 1:36:01]: After we make those uh with those recommendations. [1:36:01, 1:36:03]: And and and put'em in the budget. [1:36:04, 1:36:08]: And have a special call meeting so you can approve the final butt for the final budget. [1:36:09, 1:36:11]: Uh but but let me say this, Mr. Wakens. [1:36:12, 1:36:15]: If this was if this if you already had this information. [1:36:15, 1:36:22]: I already have this information. This information was this You didn't you didn't know this you didn't know this proposal was coming tonight? [1:36:22, 1:36:30]: Well, this this this was discussed last week when all council members were supposed to have a have a meeting and discuss these. [1:36:30, 1:36:34]: particular recommendations and come to a decision on these recommendations. [1:36:35, 1:36:38]: But so did you know that this proposal or recommendation was coming tonight? [1:36:40, 1:36:41]: Yeah, I knew it. [1:36:42, 1:36:49]: But so if you knew that then why would I I you know I don't know how much let me say this let me say this [1:36:50, 1:36:56]: You would have the numbers because if we vote yes and ask you this question, we would get the answer. [1:36:57, 1:36:59]: That's why we s need it figures. [1:37:00, 1:37:00]: On that tonight. [1:37:01, 1:37:07]: If we say yes, which we all in agreement, then to to to know what the increase would be on the budget. [1:37:07, 1:37:14]: That's just simple as just saying, hey, these are how many employees needed. Let me get this to the council because they vote yes on the night. They got it. [1:37:15, 1:37:17]: If we're voting on a budget tonight. [1:37:17, 1:37:23]: I can add to that there's one boy currently in public works making less than fifteen dollars an hour. [1:37:24, 1:37:31]: And if you raise that employee up to$15 an hour, it add$4,000 to the budget. [1:37:31, 1:37:38]: to the salary line item in general maintenance public works. Mr. Aaron, I definitely appreciate that. [1:37:38, 1:37:46]: But we're talking about fifteen dollars an hour across the board, not just public works. Anybody, any city employee, that my understanding, I don't know if that's [1:37:46, 1:37:50]: the intent of the council, but I my understanding is that they were saying any employee [1:37:50, 1:38:02]: Not just public works making under$15 an hour would be moved up to fit at least$15 an hour. And then whenever adjustment needs to be made for that. But but we need to have figures. [1:38:02, 1:38:03]: We need numbers. [1:38:04, 1:38:07]: We need to know what we're we we need to we know what we want to do. [1:38:08, 1:38:11]: Here, but we just need numbers. That's all I'm saying. [1:38:12, 1:38:22]: Yes, sir. I'll just hear me Miss Ms. Wheeler ends on the call. Yeah, thank you. I see her. I was gonna I was gonna get her just a second. Um Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. [1:38:22, 1:38:26]: Let me just say this, you know, upon taking this office. [1:38:26, 1:38:29]: And I think everybody on this council has heard me say it. [1:38:30, 1:38:32]: That we wanted our people to be paid fairly. [1:38:33, 1:38:39]: We did a uh wow across the board, we did a wage salary increase study. [1:38:39, 1:38:42]: Of the entire area to make sure that our people were competitive. [1:38:43, 1:38:44]: It raised them up some. [1:38:45, 1:38:48]: But in the instance when we know now as a realtor, I am [1:38:48, 1:38:50]: Rent is fifteen hundred. [1:38:50, 1:38:52]: Sixteen hundred dollars a month. [1:38:52, 1:38:54]: For decent place to live here. [1:38:54, 1:39:04]: it's the right thing to do. But we understand that we've already made some adjustments to get people there. There should be a overwhelming number of people to come up [1:39:04, 1:39:22]: uh above$15 an hour, but anybody, if there's one person that was below$15 an hour, it's too many because we know what's going on out there. So uh in the end, uh we know that we've adjusted most ever most of the people at City Hall [1:39:22, 1:39:25]: or for and above fifteen dollars an hour, but anybody [1:39:26, 1:39:32]: That's left below the cracks because talking to staff and people come and they talk to you offline and they'll say, [1:39:33, 1:39:34]: It didn't reach me. [1:39:34, 1:39:47]: It didn't reach me. And I kept hearing that from different staff members that said, it didn't r you know, I know we got this salary jet, but it didn't reach me. So there's people out there that it didn't reach. And I want those people to hear me and know. [1:39:47, 1:39:55]: We are trying to take care of our employees because our employees take care of this city and they take care of the residents here. [1:39:56, 1:40:13]: Understanding, okay, some municipalities took the step of giving their employees bonuses. Okay, we didn't do that. But in this instance, we're going to make sure that we take care of our employees and give them a livable wage in order to do that. So that's what the attempt is here. [1:40:14, 1:40:23]: And Miss Wheeler, you're online now. Do you have any idea across the board and mounted employees that are under uh that we have that are under$15 an hour? [1:40:24, 1:40:27]: I know that there is one employee in the event staff. [1:40:28, 1:40:31]: Um that is below uh the fifteen dollars an hour. [1:40:31, 1:40:48]: And there may be maybe one other person in public works, but we haven't been making adjustments to increase the salaries of employees in public works, especially to a livable wage. It's just now come about this year regarding what has happened with the pandemic. [1:40:48, 1:40:55]: And most of my counterparts in many of the cities have also adjusted their wage to fifteen dollars an hour. [1:40:55, 1:41:03]: for the for those employees in public works or general maintenance. So we've had this conversation with um public works. [1:41:03, 1:41:07]: In trying to see if we could do that for our employees. [1:41:07, 1:41:09]: Um, so that we could retain them. [1:41:09, 1:41:21]: So the few people that are below maybe one or two and maybe three at the most, we should be able to do that according to John in the budget as approved. [1:41:21, 1:41:24]: Okay, uh can stand by a second. Miss Johnson. [1:41:24, 1:41:30]: Uh and I'm assuming that you you don't have anybody that's uh below fifteen hours, uh fifteen dollars an hour, do you at all? [1:41:32, 1:41:34]: No, sir, I do not. [1:41:34, 1:41:41]: All right, who else is on here? Okay, Destiny, Mr. Aaron, you have four or five uh gentlemen or just one? How many do you have, sir? [1:41:41, 1:41:44]: I have I have one. Only one? [1:41:44, 1:41:45]: Yes, sir. [1:41:46, 1:42:01]: And that's and that one you that's what you mentioned earlier in the conversation about four thousand dollars. That one increased that. But when we we met earlier, we adjusted that. So now with the next pay period, we won't have any below$15. [1:42:02, 1:42:07]: Okay, so okay, for the for the rest of this calendar year or are you talking about for uh twenty twenty-two now? [1:42:07, 1:42:10]: Going forward, we won't have anybody below 15. [1:42:12, 1:42:13]: Alrighty. [1:42:14, 1:42:20]: And that is the goal right there, to make sure that we never have anybody below fifteen or ever again. [1:42:20, 1:42:36]: Yeah, right. And Miss Wheeler, you're saying that you think there's only one in the event staff at all that this Yes, there is one person in the event staff who's a public works uh event person, and he is below that amount. So we'll need we'll need to make that adjustment for him. [1:42:38, 1:42:40]: Oh friend ahead of me instead of now. [1:42:41, 1:42:47]: Uh yeah, I don't I uh Miss I guess Miss Holiday, I don't know. Do you have anybody that's under fifteen, Miss Holliday? [1:42:48, 1:42:59]: Mayor, I do not. Okay. And I don't I'm not sure of any other admin staff, um, unless it's our own assistant. I'm not sure what I have to admit I'm not sure whether So most of the admin staff. [1:43:00, 1:43:03]: has been hired above the fifteen dollar an hour okay wage limit. [1:43:04, 1:43:05]: All right. [1:43:05, 1:43:22]: So I'm just trying to figure out if we have a rough number here of people and a cost factor that we can maybe move forward with some type of estimate per se in reference to uh a dollar value that we're looking at. Uh well we can use the dollar value of the one person that we need to bring up. [1:43:22, 1:43:23]: That's in advance? [1:43:24, 1:43:25]: Um [1:43:26, 1:43:29]: And that amount, John, can't be more than four or five thousand dollars. [1:43:30, 1:43:32]: I mean, we only have two more pay periods in this month. [1:43:33, 1:43:35]: So in order to cal calculate it for the [1:43:36, 1:43:36]: Um [1:43:37, 1:43:42]: Fifty you know, fifty-two weeks or twenty-six pay periods coming twenty twenty-two. [1:43:42, 1:43:53]: You'll be adding about another four thousand dollars to the events budget uh for that one individual. And that's that's four thousand there and it's also four thousand for uh public works for that individual there as well. [1:43:54, 1:44:10]: Well, that person has already been will be upgraded as of the next pay period. So Jesus has taken care of that. We heard this was coming. So let's move forward. Right. So that's that's uh so Mr. Aaron, you're you're good to go for twenty twenty two then. Is that what you're saying? [1:44:10, 1:44:11]: Yes, sir. [1:44:11, 1:44:20]: All right. And Miss Wheeler, uh for event staff, that's about for the event staff, that's another roughly four thousand yeah needed for the event staff in that aspect for 2022. [1:44:20, 1:44:21]: Correct. [1:44:21, 1:44:24]: All right. Mr. Blount, you had your hand up earlier. [1:44:24, 1:44:26]: Yeah, I would just [1:44:26, 1:44:30]: Um, you know, I I I think we're all in agreement to approve it. [1:44:30, 1:44:34]: I think we need to go ahead and improve because when we start to get into specifics in different areas. [1:44:35, 1:44:41]: Uh that is personnel and I don't want to get too deep into that. So I think we'd be for us going approving, I just would like us to go ahead and approve it. [1:44:42, 1:44:42]: All right. [1:44:43, 1:44:46]: Uh Miss Barber, you have your hand up. [1:44:47, 1:44:48]: Thank you. [1:44:48, 1:44:53]: Um I wanted to ask, so we're just talking about um the base pay. [1:44:53, 1:44:59]: What about the bonuses, the merit increases and cost of living increases annually? [1:44:59, 1:45:05]: Is that something we're continuing to do? Uh point of water. Let's can we just do the base P and get that out of the way? [1:45:05, 1:45:07]: No, I that's what the emotion is for. [1:45:09, 1:45:12]: Um, so I wanted to know, are we also? [1:45:12, 1:45:15]: talking about those three factors as well. [1:45:16, 1:45:20]: Someone made a comment that we did not give out bonuses this year. [1:45:20, 1:45:22]: Did we or did we not? [1:45:23, 1:45:25]: May Mayor, point of order. [1:45:26, 1:45:40]: I got you, I understand, sir. Well we're not stand by, please, stand by. So what what what the motion was and the motion was approved, it dealt with when the conversation around the motion dealt with the minimum um minimum wage of$15 an hour. [1:45:40, 1:46:00]: This other if issue you're talking about, Miss Barber's good point to on the point of order. We can talk about that once we get through this one process about the minimum dollar amount, because that's what the motion was on the floor for. And that's what the discussion should be surrounding in this aspect. All right. So if there's any any additional comments in reference to the minimum wage, and they're not, the motion was made and was approved and was seconded. [1:46:00, 1:46:03]: So all in favor of that motion, please indicate. [1:46:04, 1:46:19]: Okay, so I have unanimously says, okay, so fifteen dollars an hour. So now so obviously Mr. Wiggins, uh we've got to make sure for each of all those departments that we may have the right amount in there to make sure that we have the minimum amount uh for our employees of fifteen dollars an hour. Now, Miss Barber, you have another question. [1:46:21, 1:46:22]: Or concern. [1:46:25, 1:46:28]: Uh Mr. Wiggins, were bonuses issued this year? [1:46:30, 1:46:35]: Yes, that's another point of our stamp stand by. [1:46:35, 1:46:37]: What's the point order, sir? [1:46:37, 1:46:44]: The point of order is that there has to be a motion to add this to the agenda. This is not an agenda item to question this. [1:46:44, 1:46:47]: We got this long agenda. This is not agenda item. [1:46:48, 1:46:54]: We are talking about a budget. That is what this is stand by please. We're we're talking about the twenty [1:46:55, 1:46:57]: If these things are gonna be part of the discussion. [1:46:58, 1:47:01]: Then we need to m we need to amend the agenda to do it, wouldn't we? [1:47:01, 1:47:10]: This is all part of the 2022 budget. Hold on, folks. Hold on. This is part of the 2022 budget recommendation to the council. That's what we're talking about. [1:47:10, 1:47:21]: Thank you. And I believe I believe the issue deals with uh the upcoming year and where we stand and how we're gonna plan for the upcoming year. That's what we're dealing with. Thank you. For bonuses issue this year. [1:47:22, 1:47:23]: Yes. [1:47:23, 1:47:25]: Okay. With cost of living. Um [1:47:26, 1:47:27]: Also [1:47:27, 1:47:28]: Issued this year. [1:47:29, 1:47:29]: Yes. [1:47:30, 1:47:31]: Okay, what about merit increases? [1:47:33, 1:47:36]: Uh think it was a few sporadic. [1:47:36, 1:47:37]: Through departments. [1:47:38, 1:47:40]: Okay. Thank you, sir. [1:47:41, 1:47:48]: All right, now I'm back to Mr. I'm coming back to you, Mr. Thomas. You said you had some additional motion, sir. Thank you. Um [1:47:49, 1:47:55]: Motion to amend the vacant public works technicians. [1:47:55, 1:47:56]: Position [1:47:56, 1:47:58]: From eight to two. [1:47:59, 1:48:02]: And adjusting salaries and benefits. [1:48:03, 1:48:06]: to reflect the change in the [1:48:06, 1:48:10]: FY twenty twenty-two budget. [1:48:13, 1:48:16]: All right. Is there f further discussion on that issue? [1:48:17, 1:48:29]: Well, let me let me mention this. Uh so you want to take eight, there are eight vacant positions and you want to take those eight and you want to get rid of six and only have two. Is that what you're getting at, sir? Yes. And and if I may comment. [1:48:29, 1:48:32]: Um it's a possibility that this council [1:48:33, 1:48:37]: may want to bring these positions back during the [1:48:37, 1:48:39]: Um growing season. [1:48:40, 1:48:44]: Um at the last meeting or the meeting that I had with Mr. Aaron. [1:48:44, 1:48:45]: I sort of asked him [1:48:46, 1:48:47]: Um [1:48:47, 1:48:51]: What would these guys do? That's we're not asked the question about [1:48:51, 1:48:58]: cutting zones and and how many employees in each zone, how many zones. And he did share that information with me. [1:48:59, 1:49:01]: Excuse me, but when I asked [1:49:01, 1:49:02]: Um [1:49:03, 1:49:05]: What would they do during the off season? [1:49:06, 1:49:10]: He did give me an answer. It it didn't really resonate with me. Um [1:49:10, 1:49:15]: I know he sort of said they fill in, they may pick up trash, pick up litter. [1:49:15, 1:49:18]: That just didn't resonate with me. So [1:49:18, 1:49:27]: Uh I I'm not excluding this altogether, but since we are here now discussing um you know the budget at this point in time. [1:49:28, 1:49:36]: This is the recommendation, and this is sort of the talking points that I received from uh some of the other members. Now it's not to say that. [1:49:36, 1:49:43]: um later this summer you know we we we could have a um a budget amendment but that is the motion at this point [1:49:43, 1:50:03]: Okay, let me mention this to you. I'm I'm on this it's my little some simple assumption. I'm assuming some of these vacancies have occurred because of what we've been going through the pandemic. There have been shortfalls and people for ill other industries as well. And part of the problem probably is the fact that we weren't paying enough money for these possess positions.$15 an hour or more is probably what's attracting other folks to other [1:50:03, 1:50:23]: businesses and other line uh businesses that that are short have shortfalls there as well. So I don't know whether or not changing this would would help out the process or not. And I've the one other thing I want the council to think about is that we're talking about eventually going doing annexations and growing. If that's the case, I would think these positions would be needed in this aspect. So [1:50:23, 1:50:33]: And so I just think think the look at that and see whether or not it makes sense to do what you're requesting right now. That's my two cents for that. Any further discussion? Well [1:50:35, 1:50:42]: Why, sir. Uh see this is one of the reasons why this could um this could actually, you know, come back. [1:50:42, 1:50:49]: Um annexation. I don't I don't see that happening uh tomorrow or the next day or the next day. [1:50:49, 1:50:58]: So that's why, you know, in the future, six months from now or next year, uh, all of this may be relevant, but today. [1:50:58, 1:51:04]: For this budget that we're trying to approve, uh, this is uh the motion and this is the recommendation. [1:51:05, 1:51:07]: Okay. Any further discussion? [1:51:08, 1:51:09]: Was there a second to the motion, by the way? [1:51:10, 1:51:11]: A second. [1:51:11, 1:51:17]: Okay, Miss Barber seconds that. Uh before uh before I ask for the call, Mr. Aaron, do you have anything last-minute comments you'd like to say at this time? [1:51:20, 1:51:25]: My only concern is that you already have a department that's short of staff. [1:51:26, 1:51:46]: So you're going to take positions from this, from the department. When the department also assists in other things, such as events, we support those, we support other departments as well. And right now we've had three employees that have been promoted to other positions in public works, one in water, one in sewer, one in facility maintenance. So you've [1:51:46, 1:51:47]: Post three season in fleet. [1:51:48, 1:51:50]: So now you've got about [1:51:51, 1:51:53]: Like look at my list of [1:51:54, 1:51:56]: of vacancies you've got [1:51:58, 1:52:05]: Let's see one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. [1:52:05, 1:52:07]: Eight nine ten [1:52:08, 1:52:12]: Ten employees that are doing all your right-of-way maintenance, all of your mowing. [1:52:13, 1:52:28]: That's all you have right now is 10 people that's responsible for 105 miles, a road, a right of way in the city. They're responsible for picking up litter, also making repairs in streets, patching potholes and things of that nature. [1:52:29, 1:52:29]: And [1:52:30, 1:52:35]: You're expecting 10 people to do that. That's gonna be a major undertasking. Under [1:52:35, 1:52:50]: taken for those 10 people when you got senior employees that accumulate over three to four weeks of vacation per year. So you still got to rotate in and out with those staff members. But you when you delete it from eight down to two, that's going to greatly hamper that department. [1:52:52, 1:52:54]: Okay. Miss Barber, you you had your hand up? [1:52:55, 1:53:00]: Yes, um I just wanted to mention it, Mr. Aaron, Councilman Thomas mentioned [1:53:00, 1:53:01]: you'll be able to come back. [1:53:02, 1:53:03]: Um [1:53:03, 1:53:04]: Next year. [1:53:05, 1:53:06]: And ask for a budget amendment. [1:53:06, 1:53:08]: If you need additional [1:53:08, 1:53:09]: Manpower. [1:53:09, 1:53:14]: But as it stands right now, those positions has remained, have remained, and still. [1:53:14, 1:53:15]: I'll have this here. [1:53:16, 1:53:17]: Um [1:53:17, 1:53:21]: I would think that with the increase in salary. [1:53:22, 1:53:24]: It may look a little more attractive. [1:53:25, 1:53:27]: So you should be able to feel [1:53:27, 1:53:30]: the two positions if we're able to approve this motion. [1:53:31, 1:53:34]: Right now, we should be able to fill those positions. [1:53:34, 1:53:35]: rather quickly. [1:53:36, 1:53:38]: And as soon as you feel them. [1:53:38, 1:53:40]: You can always come back to the council. [1:53:41, 1:53:44]: Mm. Go ahead, please. [1:53:45, 1:53:53]: Yep, Mr. Aaron, if you still don't thank you, Mayor. Mr. Aaron, you still on the line when you talk about rotating employees, you talk about the number of employees that are there. [1:53:53, 1:54:01]: Are you are you taking in consideration those those that we are contracted around the city also to do those uh those various jobs? [1:54:02, 1:54:10]: But those are things outside of the right-of-way moment. You got three employees that maintain the parts. All those parts get cut every week. [1:54:10, 1:54:13]: The maintenance on the parts, then you got [1:54:13, 1:54:29]: uh two employees that are fixing potholes, maintaining other things like carpentry and those sort of things. And you've got I think it's three people that are mowing right now, doing all the mowing. And you got two people that are doing [1:54:29, 1:54:36]: Well, three, one of them is out on workers comp, but you got three people picking up litter and three people mowing right now. [1:54:36, 1:54:41]: So are you are you saying you need these employ so you're saying you need these employees instead of reduction? [1:54:41, 1:55:01]: Yes, sir. That's why we sworn last year. And the only reason we didn't fill those positions with$13 an hour. And during the pandemic, when they had the enhanced unemployment, you had people getting$800 a week for sitting at home versus you're going to ask them to come to work and bring home$350. So that there was no choice. I'd rather take the$800. [1:55:01, 1:55:05]: and stay at home than to come to work and make$350. [1:55:06, 1:55:08]: And those are positioned like I said. [1:55:08, 1:55:15]: Those are positions that are needed. This is a very small public works department for a city this size. You got 10 employees. [1:55:16, 1:55:25]: that are requ that are maintaining the right of ways for 105 miles within the city. They're mowing and picking up litter and doing other things. They put up Christmas decoration, they put up [1:55:26, 1:55:32]: uh flags and all that for the Memorial Day and those assist with events when the city have events. So [1:55:36, 1:55:46]: And goodness if we budget for'em and you don't hire'em, then you s you don't spend that money, but to come back and say, Well, now's the time to [1:55:47, 1:55:54]: we want to add to the budget or increase the budget, then there's an issue trying to find the funding to bring those people on. [1:55:56, 1:55:59]: And I'd just rather not be shorthanded because it's gonna come in the summer when [1:56:00, 1:56:02]: Grass is growing and other things are happening that [1:56:03, 1:56:06]: It's gonna be some c concerns about things that are not being done. [1:56:08, 1:56:09]: Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. [1:56:10, 1:56:15]: Let me say this. Always ask the employees what they need. Miss Aaron, do you need these employees? [1:56:16, 1:56:17]: Yes, sir. They are needed. [1:56:18, 1:56:20]: Okay, and you're telling us that [1:56:20, 1:56:25]: You you believe because at the end of the year when w when I'm calling and I'm saying [1:56:25, 1:56:32]: the trash is over here and the litters over there, you gonna tell me, uh, well, you cut those employees, right? [1:56:33, 1:56:37]: Yes, sir. There's three people right now that pick up letter. [1:56:37, 1:56:38]: Throughout the whole si three people. [1:56:39, 1:56:51]: That's all you have. And right now you got because of promotion that people took positions in other departments in public work, you got three people there to mowing and then three people that take care of the parts. The parts are a full-time job. [1:56:51, 1:56:56]: It needs weekly attention. They cut all those parts every week. [1:56:56, 1:56:58]: And along with the other maintenance. [1:56:59, 1:57:04]: So in in in essence we got three people picking up litter entire uh uh in [1:57:04, 1:57:07]: Over the entire city, is that what you're saying? [1:57:07, 1:57:08]: Yes, sir. [1:57:08, 1:57:11]: So in in essence, I think we've talked about [1:57:12, 1:57:16]: adding even somebody over the weekend. The issue has been is that your [1:57:16, 1:57:19]: Una inability to feel the position. [1:57:19, 1:57:21]: So you're saying now that we've [1:57:22, 1:57:27]: uh bump the rate up to fifteen dollars an hour, you think that you may be able to fill some of these positions. [1:57:27, 1:57:31]: Or should we seek a contractor in order to do it? [1:57:32, 1:57:52]: Well, we've tried both ways. We tried with uh temporary staffing. You could find some employees, but that got to be difficult finding temporary staffing. That's why we asked for the full-time staffing, because we thought maybe you're offering benefits and other things that that would appeal to people, but it but it didn't. We were in the midst of the pandemic and some people [1:57:52, 1:57:53]: But also stay home. [1:57:53, 1:57:57]: and live off the enhanced unemployment versus coming to work. [1:57:58, 1:58:05]: Okay. Uh so your your assertion is that we need all eight of them, is that correct? Or maybe six? [1:58:06, 1:58:07]: Yeah if [1:58:07, 1:58:13]: If we want to maintain the city according to what mayor and council wants to see, then we need that additional staffing. [1:58:14, 1:58:16]: You you so you you're saying that you need all of them. [1:58:17, 1:58:18]: Yes, sir. [1:58:18, 1:58:21]: So if you had all eight of these employees. [1:58:21, 1:58:24]: And this fifteen dollars an hour search and work. [1:58:24, 1:58:28]: Break down how what the other six would do and then how you would have them do it. [1:58:29, 1:58:39]: Well, we've got five zones and plus a cemetery zone. So you'd have five uh crew leaders in those zones and within that zone they'll have [1:58:39, 1:58:47]: Three to four employees, depending on the size of the zone, that are mowing and picking up litter within those zones. And then some zones that are [1:58:47, 1:58:52]: are small, those people will come together with other zones and they'll work with each other. [1:58:53, 1:58:57]: to make sure that they get littered d litter picked up and and mowing done. [1:58:57, 1:59:01]: So they will operate within those five zones plus the two figures. [1:59:02, 1:59:04]: So those three people that are picking up litter. [1:59:04, 1:59:08]: How much litter are three people able to pick up on a weekly basis? [1:59:08, 1:59:14]: I don't I have to look at my weekly report. I'm saying how what how much area of the city are they able to cover in your estimation? [1:59:16, 1:59:18]: I think we're getting probably [1:59:18, 1:59:20]: Thirty to forty bags a week. [1:59:21, 1:59:28]: I'm saying how much of that is a city? Is that ten percent, that twenty, that thirty percent? How much of the city are the these three people covering? [1:59:28, 1:59:31]: Probably thirty to thirty five percent on the city of week. [1:59:31, 1:59:40]: So if we go to eight, then you think we might be able to cover most of the city during the week in terms of litter and and right away um [1:59:40, 1:59:47]: We if we went to eight, we are on a weekly basis, you'll pick up little probably sixty five to seven percent of the city. [1:59:48, 2:00:03]: So in essence, if if I if you if I tell you you tell me today I'm gonna give you these eight employees that you have deemed necessary, that you're gonna be able to pick up litter in 70 to 80 percent of this the city every week. Is that what you're saying? [2:00:03, 2:00:04]: Yes, sir. [2:00:04, 2:00:07]: And I can hold you and I can hold you to that. [2:00:07, 2:00:11]: Yes, if you look at where the majority of we concentrate our efforts, it's on rock water. [2:00:11, 2:00:17]: There's a lot of this three days a week is spent on Rock Quarry and Davidson Parkway in Old Atlanta. [2:00:17, 2:00:21]: Those are the roles that we spend the major especially rock for it. [2:00:21, 2:00:24]: With the apartment complex and the businesses up there. [2:00:25, 2:00:28]: Ca what I would ask Councilman Thomas to do is to [2:00:28, 2:00:32]: R consider rescinding this and let's reevaluate this in. [2:00:32, 2:00:36]: Six months to see whether Mr. Aaron has followed his word. [2:00:36, 2:00:51]: And that he's using these eight employees and he's able to staff it. And that the city, instead of thirty percent litter is being picked up, most the whole city almost 70 to 80 percent of the city is being hit every week. [2:00:51, 2:00:56]: Can I get a weekend in there too, Mr. Ayer? You think we might be able to get somebody on the weekend too? [2:00:58, 2:01:10]: I don't no, I don't know. We'd have to look into that. Okay. Well we we we we need somebody on this on that on that on the on the weekend day too. So if I get that, I I'm I don't want to cut you back because I'm not [2:01:10, 2:01:13]: I think that I want to hold you more accountable. [2:01:13, 2:01:16]: For what you say. Now you've said [2:01:16, 2:01:36]: That I if we give you the eight, we can hold you accountable for 70 to 80 percent of the city being locked down and picked up and taken care of. I want to be able to hold you to that. So I would ask that the council hold off on cutting these positions to hold you accountable since 2022 is the year of account. [2:01:36, 2:01:38]: Accountability. You okay with that? [2:01:41, 2:01:42]: Yes, I am. [2:01:42, 2:01:45]: Mayor Ford, I will withdraw my second. [2:01:46, 2:01:47]: Mm-hmm. [2:01:47, 2:01:48]: Question uh [2:01:49, 2:01:50]: Mr. Air, see. [2:01:50, 2:01:54]: One of my concerns is during the non cutting season. [2:01:55, 2:01:55]: Um [2:01:55, 2:02:01]: You know, when I look at my grass, I cut it and I don't have to cut it for another three months or so. [2:02:01, 2:02:04]: I'm when you you you keep emphasizing um [2:02:05, 2:02:06]: Cutting, cut and cutting. [2:02:07, 2:02:09]: I'm still concerned about [2:02:09, 2:02:29]: you know, are we just hiring these folks just to pick up litter, which I understand litter because you know I have a campaign against litter, but that's just one of my concerns. And and I tell you the my other concern is is all of the outsourcing. Outsourcing for the sidewalks, outsourcing for the tree trimming and outsourcing for this, outsourcing for that land. [2:02:29, 2:02:33]: landscaping. So it just sort of just just one of my concerns. So [2:02:36, 2:02:40]: I'm just a little troubled, you know, by this. Um [2:02:42, 2:02:44]: Accountability, yes. [2:02:45, 2:02:51]: But I I'll just sort of see how how the other council members feel about this, but I I just have a little concern uh about this, but [2:02:52, 2:02:56]: You know, I know we saw the people we we're talking long, but um, but that's one of my concerns. [2:02:57, 2:02:59]: Especially from now until [2:02:59, 2:03:03]: at least April or May, I I just don't see a lot of grass cutting. [2:03:04, 2:03:11]: The the the if I was able to respond to that. This is what I'm gonna say to you, Mr. Councilman Thomas. I'm so certainly respectful of. [2:03:12, 2:03:15]: What you're thinking. Just like in my neighborhood every week. [2:03:16, 2:03:18]: Our neighborhood is covered. [2:03:18, 2:03:25]: with leaves and everything. And these residents over here have to cut the grass even during the wintertime. Our grass is dormant. [2:03:25, 2:03:28]: But we still have to cut it every single week. [2:03:28, 2:03:36]: Because we have leaves and we have other things and debris and the street sweeper being out there. This is a part of where we're trying to go to be. [2:03:36, 2:03:44]: Disney clean to get where we want to go. I'd ask that you just be patient with him a little longer. And again, he's already agreed to say. [2:03:45, 2:03:46]: If he is not [2:03:47, 2:03:58]: Caught up in six months, we get to take these positions with his authority. He's already said he's gonna be a commitment. Let me just ask one last question, Mayor if I may to Mr. Aries. [2:03:59, 2:04:01]: This is the non [2:04:01, 2:04:05]: uh growing season. So are your lawnmowers? [2:04:05, 2:04:10]: Are they still cutting as active as during the growing season? [2:04:13, 2:04:32]: Yes, sir. We're still mowing. The parts still get service every week. They still get mowed. There are right-of-ways that still get mowed. We'll cut up to probably like January, the second week of January, but the parts get mowed on a weekly basis, regardless, whether it's winter, spring, summer, or fall. They mow those areas. [2:04:33, 2:04:36]: Cause the weeds grow in the winter too. [2:04:37, 2:04:44]: So let me ask let me ask council then, and it and this, you know, it's up to the consensus of the council, you're asking for eight. [2:04:45, 2:04:56]: Um w would half of that do. I'm just sort of just throwing some numbers out. But let's move on. But I just want to just throw that out, you know, just if council willing to give you half that number, or do you want to give them all eight? [2:04:58, 2:04:59]: Well yeah. [2:05:00, 2:05:04]: She uh could Barber has eight up. If if I count right, Barber has eight. [2:05:04, 2:05:19]: You know, so um okay, she's she's as a I'm tell you I think that should I personally I think that she he should keep all all the people and then hold his feet to the fire. You increase that uh the salary, so that should be helpful in retaining people, getting people and then retain them. [2:05:19, 2:05:24]: So I would agree. Let me let me ask count Councilwoman Gantt and Councilman Blount. [2:05:24, 2:05:25]: Okay. [2:05:25, 2:05:27]: Just a you know, just a short answer. [2:05:27, 2:05:28]: They're online. [2:05:31, 2:05:34]: Blount, Mr. Blount, you got a qu you got an answer to that question? [2:05:34, 2:05:39]: Well well, you know, I'm in I'm in line for giving each each department what they need. [2:05:39, 2:05:40]: Um [2:05:41, 2:05:45]: But also on this in that same vein, I'm I'm still concerned about the overall [2:05:46, 2:05:50]: uh ending of the budget because I think the budget presentation in itself needs to [2:05:51, 2:05:55]: wasn't enough for me to really have an understanding of where we're at where we're actually going. [2:05:55, 2:05:59]: Because there's gonna be some additions and subtraction, there's gonna be some things added and moved. [2:05:59, 2:06:01]: And so but I'm for [2:06:01, 2:06:06]: With all the things that are going on with the city, with all the additions that we're making and then with Mr. Aaron's [2:06:07, 2:06:10]: Uh giving a uh an example the the people that are being moved in and out. [2:06:11, 2:06:11]: Um [2:06:12, 2:06:16]: Who am I to argue his point on what he needs? I'm not a public works director. [2:06:16, 2:06:23]: So the public works and that's what he needs. What who am I to say he doesn't need it? So if we're able to make that happen, I'm I'm in agreement with making that happen. [2:06:24, 2:06:26]: Ms. Kant, do you got an idea, thought? [2:06:31, 2:06:32]: All right. [2:06:32, 2:06:34]: Yeah, I was just wondering if we had a thought to uh [2:06:35, 2:06:40]: Uh Councilman Thomas was asking your uh concern about the positions. What kind of thought you had about that? [2:06:41, 2:06:49]: I am in favor of the eight, leaving the eight like it is. Okay. There you there you have it, Mr. Thomas. Okay. So um [2:06:49, 2:06:51]: I my motion failed. [2:06:51, 2:06:55]: Okay, uh I'm gonna move on. All right, go right here, please. [2:06:55, 2:06:56]: Congratulations, Mr. Earr. [2:06:57, 2:06:58]: Um [2:06:59, 2:07:04]: Motion to amend the public works vehicle purchase line item. [2:07:04, 2:07:08]: From two hundred thousand to fifty thousand. [2:07:08, 2:07:11]: For FY twenty twenty two. [2:07:13, 2:07:23]: All right. So you t you we re you wanna reduce it for this for purchasing of vehicles. Is this correct? That is correct. And and one of my concerns is and and I think we just need to get um [2:07:24, 2:07:28]: a list of vehicles uh being being replaced. [2:07:28, 2:07:31]: And I think I asked this question and I know Mr. Eric, you provided [2:07:32, 2:07:34]: The replacement policy. [2:07:34, 2:07:38]: But I I think we have to sort of get a little deeper into that. And and and again. [2:07:38, 2:07:41]: You know, what I'm attempting to do is trim the fat. [2:07:42, 2:07:49]: And make sure that we are more efficient and effective. And I know, you know, it's not like pulling teeth here today, but I think. [2:07:50, 2:08:10]: This is a process. And I wish we could have sort of gone through this process with the directors ahead of time, but I think this is a lesson learned. And I hopefully in 2022, if God is willing, that we would take uh the budget cycle a little bit more seriously. You know, we went through the first reading, no one said a word. We went through the [2:08:10, 2:08:30]: second reading no one said a word and now here we are at the third so i think we have to learn from this process and and and you know let's get a little bit more involved it it you know during the first season during the first reading then i think we'll end up with a better product but anyway um that that's my emotion and i i'm getting a lot of this just [2:08:29, 2:08:32]: from comments from from other so [2:08:33, 2:08:37]: I if you'd like for me to read that again, motion to [2:08:37, 2:08:42]: I'm sorry. No, I was gonna say uh I think we got it. I was gonna ask Mr. Aaron what kind of comments he had. [2:08:42, 2:08:43]: Okay. [2:08:44, 2:08:48]: Yeah, if the if that's the council's decision, then we'll have to work with it. [2:08:49, 2:08:53]: Let me ask a question. Is it you already bought the street sweep already? [2:08:54, 2:08:54]: El sir. [2:08:55, 2:09:02]: So is it so what is the two hundred so uh are we gonna be able to get the street sweeper with the extra street sweeper with fifty thousand dollars? [2:09:02, 2:09:09]: The street sweeper is in a stormwater bug, not in the public. So it's not included in this. It's it's just that's what is that about? [2:09:10, 2:09:21]: This is in the public works budget for the Okay, so so the street sweeper's not being touched. No, so these were vehicles for the eight people. When you hire the additional staff, you need additional [2:09:21, 2:09:23]: uh vehicles and equipment. [2:09:23, 2:09:25]: But we'll make it work with what we have. [2:09:26, 2:09:27]: All right, second. [2:09:29, 2:09:31]: All right. Motion miss second. Is there any further discussion? [2:09:34, 2:09:37]: All right, no further discussion. Uh all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [2:09:39, 2:09:43]: Okay, I got three. Mr. Blount, Ms. Gantt. [2:09:44, 2:09:44]: I'll stay. [2:09:45, 2:09:47]: Abstain. [2:09:47, 2:09:51]: Okay, three zero two. All right, Mr. Go ahead, Mr. Thomas. Um [2:09:52, 2:09:53]: Motion to approve [2:09:54, 2:09:55]: The judge [2:09:56, 2:09:58]: The solicitor [2:09:59, 2:10:07]: Deputy, I'm reading slow so the uh city clerk can sort of record this, now start this over. Motion to approve the judge, solicitor. [2:10:08, 2:10:10]: Deputy Court Clerk. [2:10:10, 2:10:13]: And the HR coordinator position. [2:10:14, 2:10:19]: with funding for new salaries and benefit effective. [2:10:20, 2:10:22]: June first, twenty twenty two. [2:10:23, 2:10:27]: To coincide with the start up of the police services. [2:10:30, 2:10:47]: All right. Okay. So this barber second that. Okay. For discussion purposes, clarification. So you you you they have a current salary now and you're you're looking to to reduce the salary now and then and then increase it, or what I'm I'm I'm trying to understand this myself. [2:10:47, 2:10:53]: Well, f from my understanding, say with the judge, for instance, and I well [2:10:54, 2:10:58]: I I don't know. Someone tell me if if we can sort of discuss a lot of this. [2:10:59, 2:11:02]: Why don't okay, how about uh how about [2:11:03, 2:11:06]: How about our attorneys? We're talking about um [2:11:07, 2:11:12]: personnel actions or or or or salaries here for the budget purposes. Can we actually do that in this form? [2:11:17, 2:11:19]: I I believe that you can. [2:11:19, 2:11:19]: Okay. [2:11:21, 2:11:25]: Because we're talking about the budget, I suppose, huh? Is that what it means? Okay. [2:11:26, 2:11:30]: Well, let me say then, um, I think has been [2:11:31, 2:11:34]: May Mayor. Yes, sir. Yes, Mr. Blount. [2:11:35, 2:11:36]: It's telling you what [2:11:37, 2:11:39]: Mayor, when we discuss in budgets. [2:11:40, 2:11:48]: Because when you have positions at City Hall where there's only one position here, one position there, the specifics of that person is being discussed. [2:11:49, 2:11:55]: And even though we have the right or may have the right to do that, I'm not comfortable with us discussing. [2:11:56, 2:11:58]: O one particular position. [2:11:59, 2:12:02]: versus we say public works or we're saying [2:12:02, 2:12:08]: uh um other other departments that have multiple employees, but when you're talking about positions. [2:12:09, 2:12:11]: Then we are discussing [2:12:11, 2:12:19]: uh particular positions that are that either are filled or will be filled. And I don't I'm not comfortable with this council discussing. [2:12:19, 2:12:21]: salaries of people's position. [2:12:22, 2:12:26]: Uh in this type forum, we have a forum executive session to discuss employees. [2:12:27, 2:12:28]: Mm-hmm. [2:12:28, 2:12:33]: And and just let me add, and I I can somewhat agree with that, but see one of the concerns is that [2:12:35, 2:12:38]: Um and I'm trying to see how I'm trying to choose my words. [2:12:38, 2:12:41]: Um because of the [2:12:41, 2:12:45]: Uh police service that's coming on in June. [2:12:46, 2:12:47]: It is the contention that [2:12:48, 2:12:54]: Um, you know, there's more work, you know, um fees, fines. [2:12:54, 2:12:58]: You know, it's just gonna be a little bit more work. [2:12:58, 2:13:05]: uh involved and that's reason I'm saying let's let's put it out until June when the actual [2:13:06, 2:13:10]: caseloads really increase. I don't see doing it um [2:13:11, 2:13:17]: beforehand. So the status quo of what has been, you know, for the last few years. [2:13:17, 2:13:23]: I I think I'm okay with that. And maybe in June when things sort of rev up somewhat. [2:13:23, 2:13:28]: Um with the police department then I think we started bringing everything in line. [2:13:28, 2:13:33]: uh with the startup of the police department. And that's really the only difference right there, just to [2:13:33, 2:13:38]: uh increase everything when we start up the police department because until then [2:13:38, 2:13:54]: Um everything is you know as it was in 21, 2020, 2019, et cetera, et cetera, going back. Well, couldn't that be a budget amendment that we if we needed to decrease something at that point uh based on the workload? June in June, correct. Right. [2:13:55, 2:13:58]: All right. Uh well stand by. Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [2:13:59, 2:14:08]: Okay, so because this was an item that we discussed at the last meeting, my whole idea behind that was exactly as um Councilman Thomas spoke of. [2:14:09, 2:14:11]: the rollout of the police department. [2:14:11, 2:14:12]: We'll start in July. [2:14:13, 2:14:15]: The proposed budget. [2:14:15, 2:14:21]: for those specific positions at the courts and the HR coordinator. [2:14:21, 2:14:25]: won't increase until the rollout of the police department. [2:14:26, 2:14:26]: So [2:14:27, 2:14:29]: However, the proposed budget that was submitted. [2:14:30, 2:14:31]: accounts for a full year. [2:14:32, 2:14:34]: of increased activity. [2:14:34, 2:14:37]: When in fact that won't be the case. [2:14:37, 2:14:40]: What I suggested at our last meeting is [2:14:40, 2:14:41]: Curling hair. [2:14:41, 2:14:42]: Um [2:14:42, 2:14:44]: So that the [2:14:44, 2:14:45]: Proposed. [2:14:45, 2:14:46]: Salaries. [2:14:47, 2:14:48]: Well [2:14:49, 2:14:51]: The full salary won't take effect until July. [2:14:52, 2:14:53]: Not June. [2:14:53, 2:14:54]: But July. [2:14:56, 2:14:57]: Mr. Wiggins. [2:14:57, 2:14:59]: Did you include that? [2:15:01, 2:15:06]: No, I didn't include that. Okay. That's fine. All the size was still the same. [2:15:07, 2:15:10]: Okay, that's fine. But Councilman Thomas, it's July. [2:15:10, 2:15:11]: Not too [2:15:11, 2:15:18]: Well, when I say June, I guess I'm talking June thirty first or whatever the last day in June is. Okay. That's fine. [2:15:18, 2:15:19]: Make the motion. [2:15:20, 2:15:20]: Okay. [2:15:20, 2:15:27]: A mo motions actually already made, I believe, and seconded. Um this aspect. Mr. Blount, you had your hand back up. [2:15:28, 2:15:32]: Mayor, this is one reason we need to have because the courts are not dormant right now. [2:15:33, 2:15:34]: They're not dormant. [2:15:35, 2:15:39]: And when you talk about staff that is ne staff that is needed. [2:15:39, 2:15:42]: Uh for any department resident anywhere. [2:15:42, 2:15:49]: Uh if if we're talking about the police department coming on uh roughly a little over six months. [2:15:49, 2:15:50]: Uh [2:15:50, 2:15:51]: You wait. [2:15:51, 2:15:55]: six months from now or do you prepare yourselves for what's what's to come? [2:15:56, 2:15:57]: And the stuff is the same. [2:15:58, 2:15:59]: The staff is the same. [2:16:00, 2:16:02]: We just aren't talking, uh we're talking [2:16:03, 2:16:03]: Salary. [2:16:05, 2:16:12]: Therefore, if I may stand by stand by. Stand by please. Mr. Blonde, are you done with your comment, sir? [2:16:12, 2:16:20]: No, if if if I could finish, I'm saying we have to be careful and cautious when we start to move and saying we're gonna change this in six months or whatever it is. [2:16:20, 2:16:26]: Uh one of the things I think we need to do is is home in on what is needed for the budget for the year. [2:16:27, 2:16:33]: And how we're moving about doing it. And that's including every department and every uh thing that we're doing because [2:16:34, 2:16:50]: whether it's there now is going to be coming even gradually or whatever. We don't have dormant courts. We don't have this and but those things are still incrementally moving toward who the type of employees we're going to need. Uh the staffing we need is is is [2:16:51, 2:16:57]: You know, Judge McCord would have to be here to say uh to to speak on certain things or whatever. You know, uh I I mean [2:16:58, 2:17:05]: move about it just the bottom line is you know however we're gonna do it as a budget I think we need to make sure that we're we're uh [2:17:05, 2:17:13]: We're we're we're adhering to what the needs of uh of the those apartment heads, the judge or anybody. Uh let me as we did with the police chief. [2:17:14, 2:17:18]: Let me let me put some clarity here. Uh the the staffing is the same. [2:17:19, 2:17:24]: Actually it is a budget saving. So from January [2:17:24, 2:17:25]: To June. [2:17:26, 2:17:27]: That that's a saving. [2:17:27, 2:17:35]: Um the operations and the staffing is still the same. There's no change in the staffing. In my motion, I made reference to the [2:17:36, 2:17:44]: HR coordinator position, which is a new position, but for the court services, that remains the same. [2:17:45, 2:17:47]: We're just well, I'm just this is all about [2:17:47, 2:17:51]: Um savings from January to June. [2:17:53, 2:17:54]: All right, Miss Barber, please. [2:17:56, 2:17:58]: Okay, so [2:17:58, 2:18:00]: In essence [2:18:01, 2:18:02]: The court staff. [2:18:03, 2:18:05]: Whatever salary they're making per month now. [2:18:06, 2:18:07]: We're asking that [2:18:08, 2:18:09]: Mr. Wiggins. [2:18:10, 2:18:13]: Use the first six months of twenty twenty two. [2:18:15, 2:18:17]: The average of what the [2:18:17, 2:18:20]: Last six months of twenty twenty one is. [2:18:20, 2:18:21]: Use that. [2:18:22, 2:18:28]: as the first well the f the first and second quarter salaries for those specific employees. [2:18:30, 2:18:31]: That's correct. I'm July. [2:18:32, 2:18:34]: Then you can take half. [2:18:35, 2:18:36]: Of the proposed salary. [2:18:37, 2:18:39]: For all of twenty twenty two. [2:18:39, 2:18:40]: Cut that in half. [2:18:41, 2:18:46]: And that should give you the finger to add for the twenty twenty two budget. So use. [2:18:47, 2:18:50]: what they're currently paying, what they're currently making. [2:18:51, 2:18:52]: uh for the first half of the year. [2:18:54, 2:18:58]: And you have a six month saving. That's how you have a six month saving. [2:18:58, 2:18:59]: Exactly. [2:19:01, 2:19:03]: So w what what you have in the budget now. [2:19:05, 2:19:06]: For twenty twenty two. [2:19:07, 2:19:11]: Um for the you know, for the judge and solicitor you have a [2:19:12, 2:19:15]: significant increase. Do you want to just cut that in half? [2:19:16, 2:19:17]: For six months. [2:19:18, 2:19:19]: Yes. [2:19:19, 2:19:20]: Account for [2:19:21, 2:19:24]: The first six months of the year. [2:19:24, 2:19:27]: They will continue functioning at the level they are. [2:19:28, 2:19:29]: Currently. [2:19:29, 2:19:33]: I got yes, I understand. Use the uh use that. [2:19:33, 2:19:34]: So then [2:19:35, 2:19:36]: Стартін джилай. [2:19:36, 2:19:46]: And then add on the six, the half half of the six months proposed right. Exactly. Whatever they proposed um salary for 2022 was. [2:19:46, 2:19:47]: Just cut it there. [2:19:48, 2:19:49]: Correct. [2:19:49, 2:19:50]: That's all. [2:19:50, 2:19:51]: Okay. [2:19:52, 2:19:52]: Yeah. [2:19:53, 2:19:53]: Yes, ma'am. [2:19:54, 2:19:59]: I would need Councilman Thomas to change his motion because he initially stated June one. [2:20:01, 2:20:03]: Okay, um [2:20:05, 2:20:09]: I amend that motion for July. [2:20:10, 2:20:11]: And so [2:20:11, 2:20:12]: Um [2:20:12, 2:20:14]: June thirty [2:20:15, 2:20:18]: First. I mean July thirty June thirty first. [2:20:18, 2:20:20]: The last day of June. June. [2:20:21, 2:20:24]: There's only thirty days of June, sir. Third. Well, June 30th. [2:20:24, 2:20:25]: Okay, thank you. [2:20:26, 2:20:29]: That's what I was thinking. I was trying to think how many days in June. [2:20:30, 2:20:32]: All right, Miss Holliday. [2:20:32, 2:20:38]: For clarification, though, just to make sure, could you read back that motion that has been approved? Make sure we got this right, please. [2:20:39, 2:20:39]: All right. [2:20:40, 2:20:41]: The motion said. [2:20:43, 2:20:46]: Motion to approve the judge solicitor. [2:20:46, 2:20:48]: Deputy Court Clerk. [2:20:48, 2:20:50]: And HR coordinator position. [2:20:52, 2:20:57]: With funding for the salary and benefits beginning, it was June one now. [2:20:58, 2:20:59]: June thirty. [2:21:01, 2:21:05]: To coincide with the startup of the police services. [2:21:05, 2:21:08]: That is correct. Is that correct, Mr. Thomas? All right. Thank you. [2:21:10, 2:21:16]: May I add something? With the HR HR position, you're trying to start it up in July. [2:21:18, 2:21:23]: All the same, yes. The HR coordinate, all the same, yes. [2:21:23, 2:21:27]: Okay. So whatever was budgeted proposed for that particular HR [2:21:28, 2:21:28]: Position [2:21:29, 2:21:30]: We'll do six months for [2:21:32, 2:21:33]: July to December. [2:21:34, 2:21:38]: That is correct. And it is it being a new position as well. [2:21:39, 2:21:39]: Okay. [2:21:41, 2:21:49]: So otherwise what you accept, Mr. Thomas, you're accepting that amendment that he's suggesting. You're suggesting you're omitting that or or adding that to your motion. Is that correct? [2:21:49, 2:21:50]: Correct. [2:21:50, 2:21:53]: Okay. So Miss Holliday, you understand that and you have that proper? [2:21:53, 2:21:55]: I do, thank you. [2:21:55, 2:22:05]: All right. And the motion was originally made and seconded by uh Miss Barber, I believe. All right. Okay. If there's no further discussion, all favor of the motion, please indicate. [2:22:07, 2:22:09]: Okay, opposed. [2:22:10, 2:22:12]: Okay, I'm sorry, Ms. Gantt, you are you approved? [2:22:13, 2:22:13]: How to prove it. [2:22:14, 2:22:15]: Ms. Blount, Mr. Blount? [2:22:17, 2:22:33]: Because we're we're just scaling it, right? So we're just increasing their salary when they begin the other part of the work. Right, correct. I really think they're gonna need that in June, but I will go with July. So that's fine. Effective 30. Okay, got it. Uh Mr. Blount. [2:22:34, 2:22:38]: But but b because what's not clear to me, Mayor, is that what what [2:22:38, 2:22:44]: Well we're talking about fulfillment of positions because I think then a position or something like that come open a [2:22:44, 2:22:48]: over there or something like that. How does that affect positions that need to be filled? [2:22:50, 2:23:00]: What okay, wait a minute. So the the uh judge's positions already filled. Not the judge. Okay. In that in there some positions over there that need to be filled like now. [2:23:01, 2:23:10]: Uh yeah, yeah, but that's that that's that that's not part of this motion, sir. That's not um Well, I know it's not a part of but uh but does it affect that portion? [2:23:11, 2:23:20]: I would say I'm gonna say no to that at this point. Uh, cause it's not there's not it's never been discussed. So I'll say no, it doesn't affect that. It does not. [2:23:20, 2:23:21]: I definitely. [2:23:21, 2:23:22]: Right. [2:23:23, 2:23:29]: So what is what is your uh are you uh uh opposing or abstaining, sir? I'm I'm I'm not f I'm fine with that. [2:23:30, 2:23:33]: Okay, so if you're fine with that, that makes a unanimous decision, Miss Ms. Holiday. [2:23:34, 2:23:42]: Okay, Mayor I only have two more. Thank you. Okay, you're welcome. Go ahead, Mr. Mr. Top. Okay, uh I'm gonna take the lease. [2:23:43, 2:23:44]: First, um [2:23:45, 2:23:45]: Uh [2:23:46, 2:23:58]: Let me let me give some background. Um in the budget for the last several years, uh Historic Preservation had a seven thousand dollar um [2:23:58, 2:23:59]: Amount [2:23:59, 2:24:05]: and it was under planning and zoning but in this new budget it has been moved to [2:24:05, 2:24:07]: G I S [2:24:07, 2:24:08]: With no funding. [2:24:09, 2:24:21]: And so historic preservation is a part of our mission statement and the rich history that we have. And we're talking about in increasing and improving tourism. [2:24:21, 2:24:24]: How can you not have a historic preservation? [2:24:24, 2:24:26]: uh entity uh within your city. [2:24:27, 2:24:29]: So with that being said, I moved to [2:24:30, 2:24:30]: Fun. [2:24:31, 2:24:35]: А то рефон де сев таза то гісторик пресевіш. [2:24:37, 2:24:38]: And [2:24:39, 2:24:42]: The part of my motion that is blank. [2:24:43, 2:24:44]: Із [2:24:45, 2:24:49]: Where do we place it? So may I let me let me retract the motion? [2:24:49, 2:24:50]: Um [2:24:51, 2:25:01]: Can can I have a discussion before I make the motion? Well sure, sure you can. And I would thought that uh from a previous discussion that that historical pres historical preservation would go to the Main Street, I thought. [2:25:02, 2:25:16]: Well, that is that that's how I see it as well. Um now, but again, you know, you're adding more responsibility because if you're talking about uh creating a board, then you got to have staffing to to meet with them. [2:25:16, 2:25:22]: you know, uh evening, nightly. So it's a little bit more responsibility. So [2:25:23, 2:25:31]: I don't know how the council sort of view that. Um, I know it should not be on the planning and I should not be on the GIS for sure. [2:25:32, 2:25:32]: Okay. [2:25:33, 2:25:35]: So in my motion I would like to [2:25:36, 2:25:50]: put a a placeholder. I think I think we all may be in agreement with the with the funding amount. We can we can have this right right. We can have discussion. I mean whatever I mean the council can uh uh voice their opinion at this point if you're if you're willing to listen to that [2:25:50, 2:25:51]: Mayor. [2:25:51, 2:25:52]: Yes, ma'am, go ahead, please. [2:25:53, 2:26:13]: I would be in favor once we get historic preservation committee and everything up and running. Um, because this is not uh it's a nominal amount, 7,000, I would be in favor of amending our budget at the time we're ready for it. Um, for instance, although Main Street, we we we also [2:26:13, 2:26:33]: Always target with historic preservation in Main Street, mainly because we have the MLK Senior Heritage Trail. Um, and that is in the Main Street area. But historic preservation could be all over the city of Stockbridge. And so it's something for us to take into consideration, whether it was part of the development authority or whether [2:26:33, 2:26:42]: Because whatever the case may be, it would have its own separate department once we establish it, once we establish that particular committee. [2:26:42, 2:26:52]: it would no longer be a part of any other separate entity or organization. I mean, it wouldn't be on down DDA, it wouldn't be Main Street, it would be the historic preservation. [2:26:52, 2:27:09]: And so I think that we should wait to I agree. I don't think any of us would vote against it. I just think that when the time comes, we can always amend the agenda to add that$7,000 and a new line item for historic reservation committee. [2:27:11, 2:27:11]: Okay. [2:27:12, 2:27:14]: Any other council comments for discussion? [2:27:16, 2:27:28]: Uh so okay, so we're done with uh the councilman Thomas. Are you rested? Do you get all well no I I I I'm trying to pull back on the motion because uh the motion would include the amount and [2:27:29, 2:27:44]: what department, you know, where to place it. And so when I make the motion, I want to be able to include where we would place it. And that is the concern, where would we place it? I understand what uh councilwoman Gantt just just just sort of said, but [2:27:45, 2:27:48]: I I would still let you go forward and put the funds in, but [2:27:49, 2:27:50]: Um [2:27:50, 2:27:57]: And I guess we can just leave um where we will put. I guess we could leave it on the GIS for right now and then move it later. [2:27:57, 2:28:04]: Personally, I have to tell you it doesn't make sense to leave it there in my thought. But you know, that's what I would say. It doesn't make sense to leave it there. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [2:28:05, 2:28:10]: Um when we last discussed this, uh I think we're still in the same sense. [2:28:11, 2:28:14]: Go ahead, Mr. Blount. Excuse me, Mr. Alexander. Go ahead, Mr. Blount. [2:28:16, 2:28:22]: When we last discussed this, um we did discuss this previously and the same thing we talked about is getting aboard. [2:28:22, 2:28:30]: Uh and and whatever that board is, though though uh because someone came to I can't remember where we what was it, retreat or what. [2:28:30, 2:28:35]: That board uh even goes out and seek uh um um [2:28:36, 2:28:51]: They can see uh grants and all of this stuff. Uh so it's a it's a separate board. Now I agree, it's a separate board from uh any it's a separate board from GIS, it's a separate board from DDA, Main Street, or under that. It's a separate board in itself, a separate entity in itself that is funded. [2:28:51, 2:28:55]: In order to be focused totally on uh historical preservation. [2:28:56, 2:28:59]: So I'm in agreement with that, but I don't know why we would veer from [2:29:00, 2:29:03]: uh saying that it's not something needed today. [2:29:03, 2:29:05]: Uh right now while we [2:29:06, 2:29:12]: Fund it now versus waiting until it's needed and then we just amend the agenda since the because of the amount. [2:29:14, 2:29:19]: Well, I I'd like to go ahead and find an actually I was thinking about even uh taking it to ten thousand, but [2:29:19, 2:29:38]: Uh I think you got another hand up, Mayor Ford. Then I I'll I'll make a motion in a few minutes. Okay, Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. See, I've been on this council for five years and no I'm not falling for the okie dope because as soon as we don't put it in the budget and we got to do a budget amendment, it's gonna oh they gotta do a budget amendment. [2:29:38, 2:29:47]: And then it's going to be, oh, we got to take it out of fund balance or somewhere else. No, we're going to put it in. We're putting things in the budget that we want in the budget. [2:29:47, 2:29:50]: So budget members are few. [2:29:50, 2:29:52]: And far between, we will do them. [2:29:52, 2:29:55]: But in this case, in the end, every time, Miss Swell. [2:29:56, 2:29:58]: You know, we gotta do another budget amendment. [2:29:58, 2:30:18]: We're doing things appropriately. We put them in in the budget because we plan on moving forward with this, because we haven't done it uh in the past. So I'm for moving forward with it. And uh, you know, I don't see anything wrong with 10,000 if you want to go to 10,000 because it's export it's important because it even if it's put on the main street purview, it is city. [2:30:18, 2:30:20]: It's anywhere. [2:30:20, 2:30:23]: So I I I motion to fund [2:30:23, 2:30:26]: uh historic preservation to ten thousand. [2:30:27, 2:30:31]: And uh let it remain in in GIS. [2:30:33, 2:30:40]: All right, just motion and made second. Council Thomas, it's actually in pr it's it's actually in plan zoning. [2:30:41, 2:30:53]: No, in the yeah it's a budget. In the new budget, it's on the GF. I see Mrs. Johnson is on. Mel, maybe uh Mrs. Johnson may want to comment. But yeah, she's ready to she was ready to make a comment. [2:30:54, 2:31:00]: I I'm trying to tell you it was a payment made in 2019. [2:31:00, 2:31:07]: That's why it showed up on the budget sheet because it was a payment made in 2019. You do not have a budget. [2:31:08, 2:31:14]: That's in GIS for historical preservation. The budget for seven thousand is actually in [2:31:15, 2:31:16]: Play it in his own. Oh [2:31:17, 2:31:35]: Okay, I'm I'm I'm okay. I'm okay with planning his own as a placeholder. But mayor, if you would uh recognize Mr. Johnson, just get up. But I'm okay, but I'm okay with that, uh Mr. Wiggins. Well I was gonna do that, so go ahead, Ms. Johnson. The floor is yours. I I have nothing additional. Um Mr. Wiggins did um statement. [2:31:35, 2:31:37]: say what I was gonna say, so [2:31:37, 2:31:38]: Nothing additional. [2:31:39, 2:31:39]: Okay. [2:31:39, 2:31:43]: So um Mayor, I would I will uh mend the motion. [2:31:44, 2:31:46]: Uh I motion to fund [2:31:46, 2:31:50]: Um historic preservation uh up to ten thousand. [2:31:51, 2:31:52]: Um and [2:31:52, 2:31:56]: Planning and zoning as a as a placeholder. Second. [2:31:56, 2:31:58]: All right. Motion made in second. [2:31:58, 2:32:01]: If there's no further discussion, all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [2:32:02, 2:32:09]: One, two, three, four. Okay, it's unanimous decision. Fantastic. Okay. Okay. This is my last motion, Mayor. All right. Go ahead, sir. [2:32:10, 2:32:11]: Motion to amend [2:32:12, 2:32:15]: The city's organization of chart. [2:32:15, 2:32:21]: to include the position of assistant public works director. [2:32:22, 2:32:23]: Job description. [2:32:24, 2:32:26]: salary and benefits. [2:32:26, 2:32:27]: Effective [2:32:28, 2:32:29]: January one [2:32:30, 2:32:31]: Twenty twenty two. [2:32:32, 2:32:33]: Circuit. [2:32:34, 2:32:53]: Okay. Um on that discussion point, um, okay, I I like to just uh do you want to explain any further, Mr. Thomas, before I move on to something else here? Okay, as you know, um uh it is in the um the job description and the position already exists. It's not a new position. [2:32:54, 2:32:56]: I I don't want to get into [2:32:56, 2:32:57]: The reasoning [2:32:58, 2:33:00]: For the position [2:33:00, 2:33:03]: I I will say this. One one issue is [2:33:03, 2:33:06]: Uh in the qualifications. [2:33:06, 2:33:10]: Uh, it called for the person to have a degree in engineering. [2:33:10, 2:33:14]: And you know, we do not have uh anyone on staff with that background. [2:33:15, 2:33:19]: So every time we needed an engineer, we always have to outsource. [2:33:20, 2:33:23]: That's one issue that I can talk about. There are other issues. [2:33:24, 2:33:26]: Uh but I just thought of just leave it at that one. [2:33:26, 2:33:31]: If any other council member wanna sort of elaborate on that, uh it you know, it's open, but [2:33:32, 2:33:33]: Um [2:33:33, 2:33:34]: I I sort of think it's needed. [2:33:36, 2:33:37]: Mayor Protem, go ahead, please. [2:33:37, 2:33:46]: Yeah, I think Councilman Thomas is on to something right there. And uh in this particular department, we're right, we need to key in. We need an expert on staff. [2:33:46, 2:33:47]: An engineer that can [2:33:48, 2:33:50]: uh reprimand what we're trying to do. [2:33:51, 2:33:53]: Uh, in terms of where we're trying to go for the city. [2:33:54, 2:33:57]: And in certain areas we need um [2:33:57, 2:34:17]: uh that expertise and it seemed to to be able to uh bring the city uh to the next level that mr uh mr ayers a ceo but we need a co-o uh in that department to be able to uh as an operations person to be able to bring everything all together in the year of accountability. [2:34:17, 2:34:25]: and results because as Mr. Aaron has already said, he's already taken the ball and said, this is what we're going to be able to. [2:34:26, 2:34:26]: Hold him. [2:34:27, 2:34:30]: uh accountable for in terms of where we're trying to go with the city. [2:34:30, 2:34:33]: But now he has some additional support. [2:34:34, 2:34:36]: Uh in an operations expert. [2:34:36, 2:34:39]: that will be able to brought it brought back inside a degree person [2:34:40, 2:34:43]: With an engineering degree that can go out on those job sites. [2:34:43, 2:34:48]: And point us in the right direction uh as well. So I'm in full support of this position. [2:34:49, 2:34:52]: Mr. Aaron, what kind of comments and concerns do you have, sir? [2:34:56, 2:35:06]: Oh one of the things is that I know people who want a degree, but there are people out there that are extremely knowledgeable, might not have a degree. [2:35:06, 2:35:08]: That's extremely knowledgeable of [2:35:08, 2:35:28]: Public works functions and operations, I and I wish we'd consider a person's experience. The degree does not always qualify you. Experience goes a long way as well. And I've worked with people that have experience, might not have a degree, but they can do just as much or more as someone with the [2:35:28, 2:35:30]: degree because they have that [2:35:31, 2:35:41]: on ground experience of they've done construction, they've done utility, they've done civil work, but they just don't have a degree, but they have the knowledge to perform those duties. [2:35:42, 2:35:43]: All right. [2:35:45, 2:35:46]: Uh Mr Blount, go ahead, please. [2:35:48, 2:35:53]: Um I you know, some of the best mechanics I ever seen aren't certified master mechanics, but [2:35:54, 2:36:03]: I agree with Mr. Aaron. You know, uh, I would believe as an apartment head, if this council tells them what we're looking for and the type of person we want in any position that's in public works. [2:36:04, 2:36:06]: That is up to him to make sure that person is uh [2:36:07, 2:36:14]: person is hired and found. And if it's if we put a stipulation of a degree in there, I agree with Mr. Aaron once again. [2:36:14, 2:36:24]: that the most qualified person that he would see would then would be de be disqualified because they don't meet the criteria of a degree, but they may need meet the criteria of experience. [2:36:26, 2:36:29]: Okay. Any other comments, council? [2:36:30, 2:36:36]: Uh Miss Wheeler, uh as the HR director, do you have any comment on this uh is uh issue at all? [2:36:37, 2:36:40]: No, I just provided the job description that was previously [2:36:41, 2:36:46]: that the city previously had and just uh wanted Mr. Aaron to make sure he reviewed it and [2:36:46, 2:36:48]: had all the [2:36:48, 2:36:50]: qualifications and experience that he needed. [2:36:51, 2:36:52]: uh for that position. [2:36:53, 2:36:53]: Okay. [2:36:55, 2:36:57]: Thank you. Any other comments at all? [2:36:57, 2:36:58]: Yeah, [2:36:58, 2:36:59]: Go ahead. [2:36:59, 2:37:02]: No, I I don't have a degree myself, but you know what I understand. [2:37:02, 2:37:06]: That uh a lot of things are put in and there is some value to knowledge. [2:37:07, 2:37:13]: But you know, I I I appreciate people who are knowledge and are educated as well. And sometimes you can put both of those. [2:37:14, 2:37:16]: Uh up under the same caveat. [2:37:16, 2:37:29]: And sometimes having that degree brings culture and other things. Because sometimes, you know, one of my bosses said one thing to me that was really important uh when we were going to school. And those school, he said, you know. [2:37:29, 2:37:32]: You can know the material inside and out. [2:37:33, 2:37:52]: you can know it, but you become so focused on the technical parts of it that you miss that experience. And sometimes that's what the degree person brings in is a overall experience to the to to it, not just the technical side. So that's that's why I go with it in myself. [2:37:54, 2:37:55]: Okay. You know the comments? [2:37:56, 2:38:02]: Motions bit Mr. Burke, please. [2:38:03, 2:38:12]: Uh second lieutenants was looked down on because when they went into the field, they had no idea about the experience or what needed to be done in the field. And you know exactly what I mean. [2:38:12, 2:38:15]: I just you can have you can have a title. [2:38:16, 2:38:22]: But nothing beats experience. Nothing qualifies you for the experience, but the experience. [2:38:22, 2:38:28]: You had a title. I've seen many people pushed out of job opportunities that had the experience. [2:38:29, 2:38:30]: But because they didn't have the title. [2:38:31, 2:38:35]: And the title necessarily wasn't the one more qualified for the position. [2:38:35, 2:38:38]: So I wouldn't I would listen to the public works director. [2:38:39, 2:38:41]: And say if he feels that [2:38:42, 2:38:42]: Десь [2:38:43, 2:38:49]: would would hinder getting the most experienced person for the position, then I would have to go with the department head. [2:38:50, 2:38:51]: Right. Ms. Gantt. [2:38:52, 2:38:58]: Please. Okay. Just a couple of comments. One, we've never done our budget like this before. Um [2:38:59, 2:39:13]: True. This is not normal. Um, I think we all need to consider when we do our budget retreats, when we talk to the staff the first time. Um, because this is kind of last minute and [2:39:13, 2:39:15]: We're kind of throwing numbers together. [2:39:15, 2:39:35]: So I have a really big concern about that. Um I I whether we do go back to the finance committee way of doing things the way we used to, or we do what we've done previous years. This is this is something brand new. Um we're just throwing things out right now. And my concern is one. [2:39:36, 2:39:44]: Is that position already was it already budgeted for and planned for, or are we just putting it out here tonight? [2:39:44, 2:39:56]: And if it is just being put out here tonight, what is that salary and how will that increase our budget? Again, we're throwing out new items out here. Um, we had an assistant. [2:39:56, 2:40:08]: uh uh Polar Works at one time, we got rid of them. We got one, we get rid of it. You know, we're adding to the job description. Nothing wrong with that. I just think this is again our third reading. [2:40:08, 2:40:14]: And I really don't think we have a concrete um hold on our budget. [2:40:15, 2:40:16]: In general. [2:40:16, 2:40:22]: Um so uh tell can you tell me is this if this it positions added? [2:40:22, 2:40:24]: Or we already have taken this into consideration. [2:40:25, 2:40:34]: Mr. Mayor, if I if I could respond to that, um it was presented uh in September at the budget retreat. But let me just say this about [2:40:34, 2:40:36]: Going forward. Uh [2:40:36, 2:40:40]: I'm I'm not one to bank on [2:40:40, 2:40:45]: my past laws. Uh as some council members indicated. [2:40:45, 2:40:50]: Uh it's about accountability. It's about how do we improve. [2:40:50, 2:41:04]: service delivery uh to our citizens? How do we improve um you know the quality of life for our citizens here in Stockwell? That is the reason why I was in favor of public public safety. So for me, [2:41:04, 2:41:24]: It's all about how we go forward. How do we improve? I'm not looking back to how we used to do things because all that was dysfunctional. Uh I see where we need to improve in. But one thing that I do and I encourage all council members, I get into the budget every year. So this is not uh a last minute. [2:41:24, 2:41:35]: Deal for me. This is not new for me. I do the same thing every year. I present this every year. What I liked about this, what I attempted to do. [2:41:36, 2:41:47]: Uh and I should have to do this as far as encouraging council members to reach out to to uh department head and to get into the budget. So [2:41:47, 2:41:51]: You look, don't look at the process. I think we just need to look in the mirror. [2:41:52, 2:42:12]: But for me, uh I'm going to push forward to improve um service delivery to all of our citizens. How do we be more efficient? How do we be more effective in what we do every day? And that's that's my take on all of that. So, Mayor, I know we still have a couple other things to [2:42:11, 2:42:24]: to go through. I know you're gonna call for the vote. Um, but I did want uh Mrs. Johnson as soon we can get the vote, I wanted her to, I don't have a motion, but I wanted Mrs. Johnson to speak to [2:42:24, 2:42:26]: Uh some code enforcement items. [2:42:27, 2:42:27]: Um [2:42:28, 2:42:28]: Um [2:42:29, 2:42:34]: the uh vacant house registry and how that is going to improve. [2:42:35, 2:42:39]: uh the look in various neighborhood where you have vacant houses, how that [2:42:40, 2:42:40]: Um [2:42:41, 2:42:45]: you know, sort of sort of trends toward nuoses and abatement. [2:42:46, 2:42:53]: All of these things that I'm talking about, this is where all of us need to be. How do we improve? [2:42:53, 2:43:11]: The city, how do we improve the look of the city? You know, we have a nuisance can be anything. It could be noise, it could be a vacant house where you have um vagrants living in, like councilman towns, it could be it could be all of that. So I'm just saying. [2:43:11, 2:43:31]: Um, did I hear someone call my name? Yeah, yeah, that's not what we were talking about. And I I'm not not trying to bear off, but I don't want to do another 30-minute tangent like we did a couple weeks of me a couple meetings ago. Um what I'm saying to you is, and it's not you in in general, I'm saying our process has gone left. [2:43:31, 2:43:51]: We completely are throwing out things that haven't been addressed to mayor and council until our separate budget meeting. Councilman. And so that's what I'm saying. I have attempted to stay on track with everything that I presented. And I think everything I presented was in line with the budget. [2:43:51, 2:44:11]: So maybe no, I'm saying that this this new this has been new. Okay, hold on, hold on, folks. Hold on, folks. This has been presented tonight, is what I'm saying. Stand by. Stand by please. Now, Mr. Mr. Thomas, a couple council members mentioned about the educational aspect. You know, your motion has already been approved. Are you willing to change your motion to [2:44:11, 2:44:25]: uh eliminate the per se or add to eliminate ad anything about experience and also edgy educational aspect on the engineer. My my motion stand is red. Okay. All right. All right. So I just want to double check that. [2:44:25, 2:44:26]: Uh the [2:44:26, 2:44:35]: Ma uh if you don't mind, we we got a motion. Yeah, and you second the motion. I'd like to get a vote here if you don't mind. No problem. Go right ahead. All right. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [2:44:37, 2:44:38]: Okay, I got three [2:44:38, 2:44:43]: All right, uh Ms uh Ms. Gatt, are you for the motion or four again? [2:44:44, 2:44:57]: I don't know if the motion we ne I never got an answer on whether or not this was new to the budget or not. Or I mean, w this was just brought to us tonight to add to the budget and what that salary amount would be. I I don't know yet. [2:44:59, 2:45:05]: Okay. Uh Mr. Wiggins, I don't know if you can answer that question or not. We do need to know that. [2:45:06, 2:45:12]: I don't I don't know the salary for Miss Wheeler wouldn't know that, right? Who in the right mind would do that? [2:45:12, 2:45:20]: Okay, hold on, stop, stop. Mr. Wigan, you and I had a discussion. [2:45:21, 2:45:23]: Mr. Wigan, we had this discussion. [2:45:25, 2:45:28]: I know we had discussion, but I don't know the the amount. [2:45:29, 2:45:36]: Well it it's I mean the information is there. And I I hope no blue don't worry about it. I vote. [2:45:36, 2:45:38]: I don't want to throw blame, but [2:45:39, 2:45:47]: We have to be proactive and in discussions. Okay. Someone has to just go forward and and do the homework, do the research, because [2:45:48, 2:46:03]: Okay, I I can talk some more about this off off. All right. Okay. So so we made we made the we made the vote the vote. We voted. Uh and I got three positive votes on that. Miss Ganttz says she votes no. Mr. Blount, what is your desire, sir? [2:46:04, 2:46:13]: Mayor, I have to agree that we're throwing in a a position, we're throwing in the mountain, we have no idea. We're gonna write a blank check for a new position. I got to vote no. I mean uh [2:46:13, 2:46:16]: At least get some information on it. I vote no. [2:46:16, 2:46:30]: And for the record, and I want this on the record, Madam Clerk, I'm voting no because we don't have the information. We're throwing out a new position and we're just throwing out adding things to a budget, not getting a total on the balance, period. [2:46:31, 2:46:36]: And it's irresponsible and it's wrong. It's not it's not a new. [2:46:37, 2:46:44]: It's it's it's not a new position. The position it the position s is situated on the um organizational chart at this time. Is that correct? [2:46:44, 2:46:48]: No, it's not it's a new position because we didn't have it. We let it go. [2:46:48, 2:47:08]: So we had a lawsuit on it, remember, at one point. So we let it go. We didn't have another position, and we haven't had one for quite some time. Okay. So now this just came up this meeting tonight. Okay, thank you. This is a new position. Okay, got it. Sir. Yeah, go ahead, Mary Proteff. Stand by Miss Barber. Stand by Miss Barber. [2:47:08, 2:47:10]: Stand by for a second, please. Go ahead, mayor plot in. [2:47:11, 2:47:15]: Look let less understand one thing. The city had this position already. [2:47:15, 2:47:17]: We had an individual in it. [2:47:18, 2:47:31]: The council made a decision several years ago, an errant decision, to remove this position. We're reestablishing something that should have never been taken out of the budget in the very first place. [2:47:32, 2:47:36]: The citizens who live in Stockbridge, they see the difference. [2:47:36, 2:47:51]: They saw it. I saw it. That's why I ran for office. When that position was removed, removed, I could see the difference. Nobody didn't have to tell me the difference. There's no difference. I was at the Thanksgiving uh dinner with the staff and luncheon. [2:47:52, 2:47:54]: And I was talking to some of the public works employees. [2:47:54, 2:47:56]: And they said, you know what? [2:47:56, 2:47:59]: When Ted Spricklin was city manager of this city. [2:48:00, 2:48:00]: He didn't play. [2:48:01, 2:48:03]: If he called down there to the shop. [2:48:03, 2:48:05]: Somebody better answer. [2:48:05, 2:48:08]: And he held the people to that account. [2:48:08, 2:48:20]: that somebody was going to answer. And in those positions, when they had an assistant city, that person knew that that phone needed to be answered. And they knew what the standard was for the city. [2:48:20, 2:48:35]: We're correcting an error that this council took place several years ago. A new council that came in under this, under some uh precarious circumstances, made a decision to remove the position. It was the wrong position. [2:48:36, 2:48:41]: That same council eliminated the economic development directive in tenuous economic time. [2:48:42, 2:48:42]: Guess what? [2:48:43, 2:48:46]: We're correcting the rights. We're making this right. [2:48:46, 2:48:49]: And this position need to be restored. Thank you. [2:48:49, 2:48:50]: All right, Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [2:48:55, 2:49:05]: Okay, we've already um voted on that last item, right? Are we able to move for it? Because I have three three zero uh three two. Three two was a vote as I understand it. [2:49:06, 2:49:26]: So I have a couple of items that I want to well stand stand by before you before stand by. Mr. Thomas, was that the last one of your group that you want to? No, that was that that was the last motion. I wanted to give uh Mrs. Johnson the opportunity. I know she's sort of been been sort of staying with us. Uh just wanted her to give her an opportunity to talk about code enforcement. [2:49:26, 2:49:42]: And I'll ask her to be brief if she can. Code enforcement, the uh vacant registry, and how that's going to impact the city of Stockbridge. So in reference to the 2022 budget, is what you're referring to. Yes. Okay. [2:49:42, 2:49:45]: Okay, stand by Miss Barber. Miss Goy, Miss Johnson. [2:49:46, 2:49:49]: Sure, so the um they can registry. [2:49:50, 2:50:10]: Um that we have is a document we put together to identify properties throughout the city that have been vacant for a long time, or at least more than six months or longer, and have the property owners to register those buildings. Because we have the opportunity, one, to ensure [2:50:10, 2:50:30]: That they are in co-compliance, two, to be able to provide this information and keep it uh keep it under our belts for economic development in case um Mr. Peters, Dr. Peterson is looking to try and fill these spaces. And three, for the [2:50:30, 2:50:50]: the purpose of opportunities for facade improvements, for grants and things like that to bring the property up and make it more attractive to new developers and builders in the that want to come to the city of Stockbridge. So what code enforcement has done towards this effort to continue [2:50:50, 2:51:10]: To um forge ahead with vacant registry because we don't have a lot of people just coming to us saying, Yes, I've got a vacant property. Here's my fee for that. We go out um twice a month, which we call a blitz event, which allows co-enforcement officers to go. [2:51:10, 2:51:12]: to one single commercial plaza. [2:51:13, 2:51:18]: and ensure compliance with business license permits signage. [2:51:18, 2:51:20]: Um and the like. [2:51:20, 2:51:26]: And then we collect information, create um education, educational opportunities and [2:51:26, 2:51:39]: speak with the property owners there so that we can start that process. So that's what we're doing current currently to try and boost and get more business in the city. [2:51:40, 2:51:41]: Okay. [2:51:42, 2:51:51]: So is there some type of and maybe I missed it, but some type of dollar amount that you're looking for here or something that's that's been identified here for for the 2022 budget and in this aspect? [2:51:54, 2:52:14]: No, they're not a particular we we have um as a result of the blitz events that started in June, we've had twice a month. Um we've collected uh fifteen thousand dollars uh plus just from uh making sure people have their annual inspections. People are current on their 2020. [2:52:14, 2:52:22]: 21 licenses, any signed permits or other permits that they have not applied for. So, I mean, this is a clear revenue generator. [2:52:22, 2:52:35]: And the vacant registry will also be a revenue revenue generator as it pertains to economic development and getting businesses into those spaces. And that's what Dr. Peterson would do on the economic development front. [2:52:36, 2:52:38]: I have a question for Ms. Johnson. Yeah, go right here, please, sir. [2:52:39, 2:52:54]: Yeah, we had uh I know you had mentioned previously about a fee schedule for these uh violations. Is it necessary to wait until the ULDC pass or can you just bring the fee schedule forward to us because that needs to be that needs to happen now. [2:52:55, 2:53:15]: Right. So in in light of the budget um the trees and budget, you know, meetings we had, I didn't want to bring anything at the end of the year. Um, it is scheduled to come before you guys on June 10th. So we'll have those documents available to you because we do not currently have a fee schedule for code enforcement violations. There are [2:53:15, 2:53:26]: violation there's fees for maybe one or two violations but nothing else and we're trying to ensure that uh we don't have or or create um [2:53:26, 2:53:30]: um inadvertently create, you know, repeat offenders. [2:53:30, 2:53:49]: So you said June 10th or January 10th. January 10th. Okay, thank you. That's right. Okay. We're we want to bombard you guys before the end of the year with five or six schedules. I I don't want to prolong, but I just wanted Mr. Johnson to have an opportunity to just because I know we uh [2:53:49, 2:53:51]: Talking budget and I know um [2:53:51, 2:54:06]: Public works, code enforcement, you know, that's what folks see out in the in the community. And so I think going forward, we'll we'll have to get back and talk more about uh code enforcement and um public work issues because that's what see [2:54:07, 2:54:24]: That's where I get most of the complaints from. And so that was one of my reasons for sort of going down this road. But Mrs. Johnson, I just want to thank you for that. And I don't want us to sort of get off track again. And I know we have some other things uh to discuss, but I just want you to give an opportunity just to talk about those things. But I I thank you. [2:54:25, 2:54:26]: Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. Thank you. [2:54:30, 2:54:32]: Thank you. Um [2:54:34, 2:54:44]: So I wanted to make a motion um to update the personnel policy so that it states um new staff members must be employed for one full year. [2:54:45, 2:54:46]: In order to be eligible. [2:54:47, 2:54:51]: for cost of living increases, merit increases, and bonuses. [2:54:54, 2:54:54]: Okay. [2:54:55, 2:55:02]: So a second. So it's uh it's the uh the new employees aren't eligible for bonuses. [2:55:03, 2:55:05]: And then what are the other two? [2:55:06, 2:55:16]: Employees are not eligible for bonuses, for cost of living increases, marit increases, and bonuses until after. [2:55:16, 2:55:18]: One full year of employment. [2:55:20, 2:55:21]: Okay, uh [2:55:22, 2:55:25]: Would you be opposed to no bonuses in one year? [2:55:25, 2:55:29]: But if somebody's been here for eight or nine months. [2:55:29, 2:55:37]: And then they're due a raise at the end of the year. If they if they have to be here a calendar year, they're gonna have to wait almost two years. [2:55:37, 2:55:40]: Maybe there's a trigger point, maybe eight months or longer. [2:55:41, 2:55:42]: Uh on the um [2:55:43, 2:55:46]: The yearly increase if they're here eight months. [2:55:46, 2:55:51]: Then because if they're here nine months or they're here ten months or God forbid eleven months. [2:55:52, 2:55:54]: And then they come to the end of the year. [2:55:55, 2:55:55]: then [2:55:56, 2:56:02]: They gotta wait another full cycle. They've been here eleven months and then they gotta wait another full cycle to get a raise. [2:56:02, 2:56:04]: So is there some wiggle room on that? [2:56:05, 2:56:08]: No, I think you misunderst you're misunderstanding. [2:56:08, 2:56:11]: Um and if I may the whole purpose of [2:56:12, 2:56:15]: implementing this is because we've got [2:56:15, 2:56:15]: Yeah. [2:56:16, 2:56:20]: Chief Tramer just came on board. I'm sorry to use him as an example. [2:56:21, 2:56:23]: my understanding of this bonus schedule. [2:56:24, 2:56:29]: Everyone gets a bonus. Chief Transport I'm I'm okay with the bonus and let me clarify one year. [2:56:29, 2:56:32]: So one year is an anniversary date. [2:56:32, 2:56:43]: It is standard for new employees to receive a performance review or an appraisal and they get an annual review and a merit increase after a year. [2:56:44, 2:56:56]: So after twelve months, their anniversary date, I believe that's what the employee policy is, they get a merit increase or at least a performance review. [2:56:56, 2:56:59]: All I want is to make sure. [2:57:00, 2:57:04]: That new staff members, we've got a whole police force that's coming on board. [2:57:04, 2:57:05]: Right. [2:57:07, 2:57:09]: No one makes sure. [2:57:09, 2:57:12]: that we have policies in place. [2:57:12, 2:57:18]: to make sure their salary increases, cost of living increases. [2:57:18, 2:57:19]: Power is it. [2:57:20, 2:57:22]: that they at least serve one year for the city. [2:57:23, 2:57:24]: That's all. [2:57:24, 2:57:33]: You you you you made a very good point there because after they start, then they're r ink it would be on an annual basis, and you brought that up. So second. [2:57:34, 2:57:35]: All right. [2:57:35, 2:57:36]: Further discussion. [2:57:39, 2:57:43]: Miss Wheeler, you you must it's in your area of responsibility. What kind of comments do you have? [2:57:45, 2:57:49]: Of a bonus is basically um [2:57:50, 2:57:51]: Therefore [2:57:52, 2:57:54]: It's included in the budget along with the merit. [2:57:55, 2:57:59]: So normally employees receive the bonus in November. [2:58:00, 2:58:01]: Of each year. [2:58:02, 2:58:08]: Along and and the merit of the five percent includes three percent, merit, two percent. [2:58:09, 2:58:09]: Um [2:58:10, 2:58:18]: bonus, I would think. John is my correct or is that the cola is three percent and the bonus is two percent, which e the bonus is equals up to one week's pay. [2:58:19, 2:58:21]: Right. Three percent is colder, two percent. [2:58:22, 2:58:26]: Uh for the bonus, which is not added to the salary. [2:58:29, 2:58:30]: Yeah. [2:58:31, 2:58:34]: So how that's what normally happens right now. Is that what you're saying? [2:58:35, 2:58:38]: Yeah, colas are given out once a year at the beginning of the year. [2:58:38, 2:58:39]: That's correct. [2:58:39, 2:58:40]: They keep up with cost of living. [2:58:41, 2:58:47]: And that happens at uh begin of the year, no matter how long you've been employed with the uh with the city, is that correct? [2:58:47, 2:58:48]: Correct. [2:58:48, 2:58:56]: And what we're proposing is I think what's proposed right now that that would not happen unless they're employed with one full year. Is that correct? [2:58:56, 2:59:03]: Right. So any new employees that would be hired effective January one, twenty twenty two. [2:59:03, 2:59:08]: would wait until January of twenty twenty three to receive the COLA. [2:59:09, 2:59:14]: And if you get hired in say November of the previous year and you've only been employed for [2:59:14, 2:59:20]: for two months you have to wait uh more than one full year to get the bonus you're talking about. Is that correct? [2:59:21, 2:59:26]: Well, the bonuses aren't given out until November, so the bonus would not be given out. [2:59:26, 2:59:29]: until November of twenty twenty two. [2:59:29, 2:59:29]: Mm-hmm. [2:59:30, 2:59:31]: We're in December. [2:59:32, 2:59:35]: Or in December. So September thirteenth. [2:59:35, 2:59:37]: So those individuals [2:59:37, 2:59:41]: You would have to make a determination if you're hired prior to [2:59:41, 2:59:43]: November first or [2:59:44, 2:59:45]: Are you you know? [2:59:46, 2:59:48]: If I if a person gets hired in January. [2:59:49, 2:59:51]: They technically would be eligible for the bonus. [2:59:52, 2:59:54]: of November twenty twenty two. [2:59:56, 2:59:58]: Okay. Correct, Miss Barber? [2:59:59, 3:00:04]: Or are you talking about anyone hired as of November 2022? [3:00:04, 3:00:07]: Would not be eligible until November twenty twenty three. [3:00:08, 3:00:15]: Certainly there we staff can make exceptions, but the rule is [3:00:15, 3:00:17]: All employees. [3:00:17, 3:00:18]: Must be employed. [3:00:19, 3:00:20]: For a full year. [3:00:21, 3:00:24]: In order to be eligible to receive [3:00:24, 3:00:29]: Cost of living increases, merit increases, and bonuses. [3:00:30, 3:00:32]: I have a second. [3:00:32, 3:00:34]: Yeah, you gotta submit it for temp second down. [3:00:35, 3:00:42]: Okay. Um so yes, you are right, Miss Wheeler. That is exactly my um thought process. Um [3:00:44, 3:00:44]: For [3:00:45, 3:00:48]: For instance, the police force that's coming on board. [3:00:49, 3:00:50]: In July. [3:00:51, 3:00:52]: Come January. [3:00:52, 3:00:55]: They're under the current policy. [3:00:55, 3:00:58]: They are eligible for cost of living increases. [3:00:58, 3:01:01]: bonus and merit increases. [3:01:02, 3:01:04]: When they would have only been employed. [3:01:04, 3:01:05]: Six months. [3:01:06, 3:01:07]: Okay. [3:01:07, 3:01:08]: And I want to [3:01:10, 3:01:11]: Restrict. [3:01:11, 3:01:12]: That [3:01:13, 3:01:13]: Um [3:01:14, 3:01:14]: So I'm [3:01:15, 3:01:19]: So I just want to move forward with this. It has to be a full year. [3:01:19, 3:01:27]: It just makes sense. Yeah. Well, and on that example, that means that they'll have to wait till the uh till 23 before the following year. [3:01:27, 3:01:29]: Correct. All right. [3:01:30, 3:01:31]: Mr. Blank, go ahead, please. [3:01:31, 3:01:39]: Mary, well it sounded like you you you're cutting out that one mass time to give it to everybody. What you're saying is that to do an evaluation of everybody's uh [3:01:39, 3:01:41]: Everybody's uh hired date. [3:01:42, 3:01:46]: So it cuts out, you know, we we do this ceremonial thing with bonuses. [3:01:46, 3:01:53]: But what they're saying is that your cost of living, your increase in bonus and all that gonna be on your anniversary day. [3:01:53, 3:02:01]: Uh not this big mass uh ceremony that we do uh every year. You can't do that because [3:02:02, 3:02:07]: Uh you you you know, you're talking about all these employee. If you're talking about a year, you're talking about their anniversary day. [3:02:08, 3:02:11]: And so how do you give up how do you have this mass ceremony? [3:02:11, 3:02:15]: to do it when you're talking giving it even now, employees right now. [3:02:16, 3:02:21]: You you're still talking about anniversary date. So is it gonna be established anniversary date? [3:02:22, 3:02:25]: Now or is it gonna be those that are doing it yearly now? [3:02:25, 3:02:33]: Still get it yearly how it's been going, that's been here, but the newly coming in higher are gonna get it on their anniversary date. Their anniversary date could be. [3:02:33, 3:02:44]: in a June or July, but everybody has been doing it in November. So are you saying everybody now stay in November that's in November, but everybody from here forward on the anniversary day? Is that what's [3:02:44, 3:02:46]: Is that what you're saying? Is that what's being said here? [3:02:46, 3:02:48]: I'm just wanting some clarity. [3:02:50, 3:02:53]: I d I will think that uh said is [3:02:53, 3:02:58]: I want to make sure any new hires from this point. [3:02:59, 3:03:00]: That comes on board. [3:03:01, 3:03:02]: Must be employed. [3:03:03, 3:03:04]: For a full year. [3:03:04, 3:03:06]: before they are eligible. [3:03:06, 3:03:11]: to receive any cost of living increase, maritime increase, or bonus. [3:03:11, 3:03:16]: As far as the schedule in which these [3:03:16, 3:03:20]: incentives are given, they can remain the same. [3:03:21, 3:03:22]: But my motion. [3:03:23, 3:03:25]: Is in regards to [3:03:25, 3:03:27]: New employees. [3:03:27, 3:03:30]: Must be employed for one full year. [3:03:31, 3:03:32]: You can keep the schedule. [3:03:33, 3:03:37]: But I just want to make sure that they are employed for a full year. [3:03:38, 3:03:39]: May Mayor. [3:03:39, 3:03:43]: Well mention here because if you got a p employees that come in in June. [3:03:44, 3:03:47]: The next June they get an increase in cost of living. [3:03:48, 3:03:49]: And bonus. [3:03:50, 3:03:54]: But if you wait to November, you're talking about a year and a half. [3:03:54, 3:04:02]: You get a cost of living increase when you missed the cost of living increase in June. So that's what I'm trying to understand. Are you talking about the new hires? [3:04:02, 3:04:05]: Getting cost of living increase in bonuses on their higher day. [3:04:06, 3:04:15]: Which June to June, or you still trying to massively do everybody in November, which now the person that was hired from June to June on that year anniversary. [3:04:16, 3:04:20]: Now they're gonna miss out six months of cost of living increase. How do you [3:04:20, 3:04:23]: How do you bring that into to fruition for them to get that? [3:04:24, 3:04:29]: six months missed. I'm just trying to you you see what I'm saying? You can't have two systems in one. [3:04:29, 3:04:31]: Right. [3:04:31, 3:04:33]: Yeah, you're right, sir. I'm sorry. [3:04:33, 3:04:38]: Melissa try to figure that out. [3:04:39, 3:04:41]: So next year in November. [3:04:41, 3:04:47]: He'll receive a bonus. Now, whether or not he received a bonus after one month of being on board here. [3:04:47, 3:04:48]: I don't know. [3:04:48, 3:04:51]: But I would certainly want to prevent that from happening. [3:04:51, 3:04:54]: for any new employee going forward. [3:04:54, 3:04:57]: Any job that I've had [3:04:57, 3:04:58]: Yes. [3:04:59, 3:05:06]: There's been a delay, just depending on your hire date, when it comes to the incentives that the company offers. [3:05:07, 3:05:10]: Employees, the cost of living. [3:05:10, 3:05:12]: Bonuses and merit increases. [3:05:13, 3:05:16]: are not um guaranteed. [3:05:17, 3:05:19]: They're not guaranteed, they are incentives. [3:05:20, 3:05:22]: Now of course the schedule, like I said. [3:05:23, 3:05:24]: We can keep the same schedule. [3:05:25, 3:05:29]: There may be a lapse in some employees just depending on their higher date. [3:05:29, 3:05:32]: That they don't get the bonus. [3:05:32, 3:05:38]: for twenty twenty two, but they'll certainly get it in twenty twenty three. There'll just be a gap. [3:05:38, 3:05:41]: Of course, with those new employees coming on board. [3:05:42, 3:05:44]: in July of next year. [3:05:44, 3:05:57]: I would hope that when they accept the position that they are happy with their salary and they are not just signing on in anticipation of a bonus and mirror increase that's coming within the next few months. [3:05:58, 3:06:01]: Every HR depart department that I'm aware of. [3:06:01, 3:06:03]: has established criteria. [3:06:04, 3:06:05]: And policies. [3:06:06, 3:06:08]: that kind of govern this kind of thing. [3:06:08, 3:06:17]: So no employee should assume that they're going to get a bonus, cost of living, and merit increase every year, because at any point, the governing body can freeze it. [3:06:18, 3:06:20]: Or just eliminate it altogether. [3:06:20, 3:06:23]: These are incentives. They're not guaranteed. [3:06:23, 3:06:25]: Stand stand by, Mr. Blount. Stand by for a second. Miss Wheeler. [3:06:26, 3:06:36]: In reference to cola, is that only happen one time of the year? Only in January, first of the year, or ha that can it happen multiple times or different times of the of the calendar year? It only happens one time during the year. [3:06:37, 3:06:44]: All right, so okay, so wow, that means someone that could very well be hired. Um [3:06:44, 3:06:54]: in in the fall, come around January, only be uh with us for a couple of months and would have to wait until the fall in the year before he got the cola increase then, I guess, on that note. [3:06:55, 3:06:56]: Is that correct? [3:06:57, 3:07:00]: That's correct. If you're adding this in as of twenty twenty two. [3:07:00, 3:07:02]: Which is the budget we're talking about. [3:07:03, 3:07:07]: Mm-hmm. This would take effect in effect of January, you know, when we [3:07:07, 3:07:11]: And with the budget, so it'll be added into the personal employee manual. [3:07:11, 3:07:19]: And that will be included in there. Right now, we don't have this the stipulation that you have to be here one year. [3:07:20, 3:07:21]: It has been [3:07:21, 3:07:22]: Um [3:07:22, 3:07:24]: An incentive that has been given. [3:07:24, 3:07:25]: Um yearly. [3:07:26, 3:07:27]: So now we're making it. [3:07:28, 3:07:30]: Um, we're putting some rules around it. [3:07:31, 3:07:34]: and um it will be added to the employee handbag. So [3:07:35, 3:07:37]: Handbook so employees will know up front. [3:07:37, 3:07:40]: What the criteria is for those. [3:07:40, 3:07:41]: Three items. [3:07:43, 3:07:45]: All right. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [3:07:45, 3:07:48]: Mayor, the only way to make this fair is two ways you can do it. [3:07:49, 3:07:55]: Either you take all employees and let them have that increase on their anniversary, yearly anniversary. [3:07:56, 3:08:02]: Or you take those newly employees that has been less than a year and prorate that amount. [3:08:02, 3:08:09]: of what they would have gotten, prorate that amount to four months, six months, or whatever months it is, and give them that amount. [3:08:09, 3:08:16]: To put everybody on the same schedule. Other than that, you would have to do it because if somebody like you said, the officers come on in June. [3:08:17, 3:08:21]: And next June they gotta wait six months in order to get a cost of living increase. [3:08:21, 3:08:32]: or their bonuses. Well, if you keep everybody on the same schedule, then then those bonuses for those that came in, instead of instead of waiting those many months, just prorate them, just prorate the money. [3:08:33, 3:08:40]: Well then how how can you make it fair that everybody does at the same time? There's no way to do it that way. [3:08:40, 3:08:40]: Yeah. [3:08:41, 3:08:43]: It's a thought. That's a thought. Okay. [3:08:44, 3:08:46]: Well we need to get with the treasurer and um [3:08:47, 3:08:48]: And and and [3:08:48, 3:08:51]: We'd have we know we'd have to figure this out depending on what the council votes on. [3:08:53, 3:08:58]: There's one forward with that motion, please. Stand by. Go ahead, go ahead, John. [3:08:59, 3:09:03]: I would have to see if our system can do that. I don't know if Kronos can um [3:09:04, 3:09:11]: We can we can put it in like pro rate, even with ENCODE pro rate, uh everybody's pay for the incentive. [3:09:12, 3:09:15]: Yeah, it normally happens once a year. You pick [3:09:15, 3:09:16]: A time in the year. [3:09:17, 3:09:18]: Their colas will be [3:09:19, 3:09:21]: um given to all employees. [3:09:22, 3:09:25]: So normally it either be January first or July first. [3:09:26, 3:09:26]: Um [3:09:26, 3:09:28]: In which how you can budget it. [3:09:28, 3:09:31]: And that's how the okolas are given. Bonuses are [3:09:32, 3:09:35]: Not added to the base salary. So it's a one time. [3:09:36, 3:09:37]: Um incentive. [3:09:38, 3:09:39]: That's correct. [3:09:40, 3:09:42]: That is given. [3:09:42, 3:09:50]: Okay. I'd like to move forward with my motion, please. Stand by. I'm I'm here. Can I ask you a question there? I'm stand I stand by a second. [3:09:51, 3:09:55]: Uh my attorney the attorneys, you gentlemen have been listening to this conversation. [3:09:56, 3:10:00]: What type of legal advice do you have, if anything at all? [3:10:02, 3:10:03]: Turdies? [3:10:05, 3:10:05]: Gentlemen. [3:10:08, 3:10:14]: Well, Mayor, until they wake up, I have a question for Ms. Wheeler real quick and this be my last one. Go ahead, sir. Ms. Wheeler. [3:10:15, 3:10:20]: Yes, sir. You put that in the system and it shows what they get in 12 months. [3:10:21, 3:10:36]: That's systematically set in place. We can't take that from our finance and say, we can budget that. We can even budget all the amounts just for budget purposes, but we couldn't prorate that ourselves in finance and say, [3:10:36, 3:10:47]: Uh give me an instance. We say a hundred dollars is your is is your bonus and you're there six months. We can't say fifty dollars and then because anything not used in the budget gonna go back into the budget anyway. [3:10:48, 3:10:52]: We can't pro prorate it even after it's been calculated in in finance. [3:10:54, 3:10:57]: I mean, I'm sure that we can. It just um [3:10:57, 3:10:58]: Mm. [3:10:59, 3:11:01]: It would not be done as it is now as a mass. [3:11:02, 3:11:06]: Increase so we would have to remove those employees out. [3:11:06, 3:11:11]: And then uh I would you know get with John and payroll and figure out. [3:11:11, 3:11:13]: what that amount would be. [3:11:16, 3:11:17]: But you know that [3:11:18, 3:11:20]: We we we we would have to work it out. [3:11:20, 3:11:21]: All right. [3:11:22, 3:11:25]: Mayor Ford, I'd like to move forward with my motion. [3:11:25, 3:11:29]: Because all these extra discussions that are have happening here. [3:11:30, 3:11:33]: is not the intent of what this motion is about. [3:11:34, 3:11:41]: Currently, our policy doesn't speak to new employees receiving bonuses. So an employee that's hired tomorrow. [3:11:42, 3:11:46]: Or an employee that's hired in October could have received a bonus in November. [3:11:48, 3:11:52]: So all of these employ these police officers were hiring in June. [3:11:52, 3:11:55]: Are eligible to receive bonuses in November. [3:11:55, 3:11:56]: That's not what. [3:11:57, 3:11:57]: we want to do. [3:11:59, 3:12:00]: It is okay. [3:12:01, 3:12:02]: For us too. [3:12:02, 3:12:04]: Enact this new policy. [3:12:05, 3:12:09]: Which requires employees, new employees. [3:12:09, 3:12:11]: to be higher for one year. [3:12:12, 3:12:14]: before they are eligible. [3:12:14, 3:12:19]: For a merit increase, which normally comes on their anniversary day. [3:12:20, 3:12:27]: The bonuses, which they Ms. Wheeler and Mr. Wiggins just confirmed, the bonuses are usually given in November. [3:12:28, 3:12:31]: And the cost of living increases. [3:12:31, 3:12:32]: That are usually given [3:12:32, 3:12:33]: in January. [3:12:35, 3:12:37]: All I want is to make sure. [3:12:38, 3:12:41]: That new hires are employed for one year. [3:12:42, 3:12:45]: Before they are eligible for these incentives. [3:12:45, 3:12:58]: That's all. Can we move on? Appreciate it. I'd like to also get a legal opinion before we go forward. And Mr. Jeremy, Jeremy, you've been listening to our conversation, I'm assuming. And so you got an idea legally on this aspect. [3:12:59, 3:13:02]: Are any thoughts on the timing of how long someone needs to work? [3:13:03, 3:13:10]: Well, the the the whole the motion itself just wanna make sure that uh it's legally sound as best as possible. Wanna make sure you get uh legal opinion. [3:13:11, 3:13:17]: Yeah, I mean sort of a couple of things, right? In in terms of the idea of how long someone needs to work there. [3:13:18, 3:13:25]: I mean frankly that's a a a policy decision of the council or of HR to figure out there's another question. I mean [3:13:26, 3:13:29]: The idea of bonuses paid by the city is is [3:13:29, 3:13:36]: A whole separate issue because I know there been City of Atlanta had some some trouble with that a couple of years ago. And I know every year. [3:13:36, 3:13:44]: GMA looks at the issue, but whether a payment of a bonus violates the gifts and gratuities clause of the the Georgia Constitution. [3:13:45, 3:13:52]: Uh I mean I guess if you couch it in terms of a cost of living adjustment, that's different than a bonus. So that's that's a different issue. [3:13:53, 3:14:01]: But right. I mean, if the council says you have to be working here on July one and then you're eligible for a bonus, the council can do that. That's up to the council or [3:14:02, 3:14:04]: working with HR to whatever policy they want to set. [3:14:05, 3:14:15]: Mayor Ford, I'd like to move forward with my motion. I'm not done yet. You're gonna have to wait now. Mayor. Yeah, stand by, please. Stand by. All right, Jeremy, anything else you need to answer? [3:14:16, 3:14:17]: Is that it? [3:14:18, 3:14:20]: Okay. Quentin, do you have anything to answer at all? [3:14:21, 3:14:27]: I'm just making sure we answer the question. What specifically are the contingencies on the motion that the clerk has? [3:14:28, 3:14:33]: Okay. You want you want you you're asking for the clerk to read the motion, is that what you're getting asked to get clarity? [3:14:33, 3:14:47]: Yes. Because what we're finding out is happening is that and that's why I referred to the clerk in the earlier matter, because what's happening is when all this stuff is passed, we then have to come back with resolutions which are different from the resolutions that [3:14:47, 3:14:56]: We've had at the beginning of the meeting that we're told to pre-file into the exhibit packets. And so I just want to make sure that we're all on the same page about. [3:14:56, 3:15:01]: What this is. Okay. Uh Vanessa, please, mm clerk, could you read the motion? Make sure we got it straight, please. [3:15:01, 3:15:05]: Mayor, the motion made by Councilwoman Barber. [3:15:05, 3:15:08]: Is that all new employees? [3:15:08, 3:15:11]: must be employed one full year [3:15:12, 3:15:13]: In order to receive [3:15:14, 3:15:15]: The cost of living. [3:15:16, 3:15:17]: Bonus and merit. [3:15:18, 3:15:21]: Seconded by councilman, I'm sorry, Mayor Pro Tem Alexander. [3:15:22, 3:15:22]: Okay. [3:15:23, 3:15:24]: All right, that's the motion. [3:15:25, 3:15:30]: Uh you uh clarity, you got that, miss uh Ms. Watson? That's you got that now, sir? No problem? Yeah, mayor. [3:15:31, 3:15:32]: Yes, ma'am. [3:15:32, 3:15:40]: I guess my question is when will they get their bonus? Would it cause uh some if you do it that way? [3:15:41, 3:15:41]: Then [3:15:42, 3:15:45]: If we're still gonna give the bonus in November. [3:15:46, 3:15:50]: then there'll be times where people will have to go a year, year and a half. [3:15:50, 3:15:51]: Or more. [3:15:52, 3:16:12]: Sometimes right they might have just missed that that year cutoff point almost two years before they receive a bonus. So are they gonna get a bonus on their anniversary date? Or is it something that we can prorate? But we can't, I mean, I I don't think it it doesn't sound fair unless we're gonna actually do the bonuses. [3:16:12, 3:16:15]: upon the date of anniversaries. So which one is it? [3:16:16, 3:16:20]: We're not trying to do all bonuses in November then, if that's the case. [3:16:22, 3:16:24]: Correct? How are we gonna do this? [3:16:26, 3:16:33]: It's a little confusing. Does it speak specifically to any incentive? [3:16:34, 3:16:40]: Ma Mayor I'm not talking about I'm not talking about any specific [3:16:40, 3:16:44]: Schedule of when any of these incentives are issued. [3:16:46, 3:16:54]: That's not included. Now our pol but I'm saying we have to talk about that because right now our policy is that we give a bonus in November. [3:16:55, 3:17:03]: Let's go. We get the vote in November. So Berry. Mr. Berry just we're gonna have to change our talking. [3:17:03, 3:17:10]: Mr. Vera just called bonuses. We shouldn't be issuing them. You what I'm saying to you is if the bonus [3:17:11, 3:17:13]: If we've always given a bonus in November. [3:17:15, 3:17:35]: And the year anniversary, let's say somebody came in um October. They have to wait till the following October, or they came right after January. And that means they won't have another full year until the following January, but we give out bonuses in November. Are we gonna start giving out bonuses on [3:17:35, 3:17:46]: on anniversary dates and no longer give everyone their bonus in November? Or are we going to do it where they have to wait and that means they'll be out, what, 18? [3:17:47, 3:18:02]: uh what 22 months so i'm trying to figure out how would we do this to make it fair across the board and that includes although your motion is stating for one year we still have some unfinished business about it [3:18:03, 3:18:10]: That means that we need to determine how we're going to give out bonuses for our employees to make sure that it's fair. [3:18:12, 3:18:15]: All right. Mr. Quentin, go ahead, sir. You were going to say something. [3:18:15, 3:18:17]: I'm I think from a legal perspective when and [3:18:18, 3:18:21]: Jeremy, you can tell me what your thoughts on this. I think that if we had [3:18:21, 3:18:31]: If if it's true what Councilwoman Barber says, then wouldn't it also be true that after a uh after a person worked here for a year that they would be eligible for bonuses and that would just be [3:18:32, 3:18:39]: That'll just depend on the capacity of HR and the department head to make sure their year date, if they want to give them a bonus, they gave them a bonus. [3:18:39, 3:18:43]: So the person was hired in October could possibly get a bonus in [3:18:44, 3:18:46]: You know, October or November, December. [3:18:47, 3:18:55]: Or the person was hired in January could get a bonus that next January or February. Or or if you gave the latitude to the department head. [3:18:55, 3:19:00]: to be able to give if you gave latitude of discretion to department head to be able to wave it if [3:19:01, 3:19:03]: they saw fit or within their discretion. [3:19:04, 3:19:07]: But that could be entertain that could be entertained in this motion or a separate motion. [3:19:08, 3:19:10]: If the if you want to guarantee [3:19:10, 3:19:16]: But I guess the first question is do you want to guarantee any level of incentive? Because if you're guaranteeing some level of incentive to them. [3:19:17, 3:19:17]: The [3:19:19, 3:19:25]: it gets kinda into some level of a contract where they will have an expectation that they're supposed to get something. [3:19:25, 3:19:27]: But that's what you all decide of the policy maker. [3:19:28, 3:19:31]: None of these incentives are guaranteed. None of them. [3:19:32, 3:19:33]: The governing body can freeze. [3:19:34, 3:19:40]: all pay increases, incentives, any bonuses, costs of at any given time. [3:19:41, 3:19:43]: But that is not a part of my motion. [3:19:44, 3:19:47]: My motion speaks specifically to [3:19:48, 3:19:49]: Enacting a policy. [3:19:49, 3:19:52]: To ensure every employee, every new hire. [3:19:53, 3:19:55]: Has worked here for a year. [3:19:55, 3:19:57]: Before they are even eligible. [3:19:58, 3:20:00]: To receive any of these incentives. [3:20:01, 3:20:06]: I don't know what the schedules of these incentives are and that's not my issue or that's not a part of this motion. [3:20:07, 3:20:08]: Mayor Ford, please call for the vote. [3:20:09, 3:20:10]: Mayor. [3:20:10, 3:20:15]: Yeah. We'll make this the last comment, Mr. We'll make this the last comment, Mr. Blount. Go ahead. [3:20:16, 3:20:20]: Man, I think it's coming at a inopportune time when the city [3:20:20, 3:20:25]: does have that incentive there and it does bring employees and we are in a time of [3:20:25, 3:20:26]: Of a pandemic. [3:20:27, 3:20:30]: And like Councilwoman Barber said, we are about to hire [3:20:31, 3:20:33]: Several police officers in June. [3:20:34, 3:20:50]: So that to now set a policy, instead of saying we can prorate it and still give them these incentives, that goes a long way not only with the officers, but it's gonna go a long way with the employees and it's gonna go a long way being an incentive for somebody to come work for the city of Spot Bridge. [3:20:51, 3:20:51]: So [3:20:52, 3:20:57]: What there's no part there's no procedure in place for the motion. [3:20:57, 3:21:03]: How's a motion passing when there's no clear procedure in place to implement it? I have no idea how we do that. [3:21:05, 3:21:15]: All right, well we'll let's let's go ahead now. So uh we've had all this discussion. We had all the discussion and we've the motion been made. So all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [3:21:17, 3:21:21]: Okay, I got three, four, four. Okay, all pose. [3:21:21, 3:21:25]: I oppose. Okay, so it passes three, two. All right. [3:21:25, 3:21:27]: Uh what else do we have here? [3:21:28, 3:21:34]: Mayor Ford, I did have a couple of other items I want us to consider as we're discussing the budget. Um the budget [3:21:35, 3:21:44]: The budget for the amphitheater. Um, at the last meeting, I asked Mr. Wiggins if he would itemize um the expenses for the amphitheater. [3:21:44, 3:21:47]: Were you able to itemize those expenses, Mr. Wiggins? [3:21:48, 3:21:50]: the cost for lighting, that kind of thing. [3:21:51, 3:21:53]: Yeah, I d I just spread the cost out. [3:21:53, 3:21:58]: Okay. The cost what was it$250,000 for the amphitheater? [3:21:58, 3:22:05]: idea yes. I think that's under budget. I believe we will there will be a lot more expenses. Um [3:22:05, 3:22:07]: When it comes to this amphitheater. [3:22:07, 3:22:08]: Um [3:22:08, 3:22:09]: We know. [3:22:10, 3:22:12]: from this concert, although [3:22:12, 3:22:20]: The council has not been provided financial reports with the profits and loss from these two concerts. [3:22:20, 3:22:23]: Um, I don't know what it is. It hasn't been provided to me. [3:22:24, 3:22:26]: But you all should have received it by now. [3:22:27, 3:22:28]: However [3:22:28, 3:22:35]: We know that there are still items that are needed to be purchased, tables and chairs, for instance. [3:22:35, 3:22:40]: Did you include the cost of that in the budget as well? [3:22:43, 3:22:55]: You you're I would say they're probably not added in there at this point. Okay, Mr. Wiggins. No. I'm sorry. No, it's it wasn't it wasn't added. It wasn't included. [3:22:55, 3:22:56]: No, it's not included. [3:22:57, 3:23:03]: Okay, do you think we need to include um the purchase of tables and chairs for the amphitheater in the budget? [3:23:05, 3:23:05]: And [3:23:06, 3:23:09]: Anything else? Do you think we need to include that? [3:23:10, 3:23:20]: It probably need to be included. I don't think I don't know if we have a good solid number to add at this point. Mr. Wiggins, can we increase the budget for the amphitheater? Um, I'd say at least [3:23:20, 3:23:21]: Um [3:23:21, 3:23:23]: Another hundred and fifty thousand. [3:23:24, 3:23:26]: Four hundred thousand for the amphitheater. [3:23:27, 3:23:29]: We know that there are gonna be some additional costs that's coming. [3:23:30, 3:23:31]: Regarding that. [3:23:31, 3:23:34]: I've already heard some things about it. [3:23:36, 3:23:45]: Um 400, I'd like to make a motion to increase the budget for the amphitheater to include other expenses. [3:23:45, 3:23:50]: that are needed for the amphitheater, increase the budget to$450,000. [3:23:50, 3:23:51]: Please, that's my motion. [3:23:52, 3:23:53]: Mayor. [3:23:54, 3:24:00]: Mr. Mr. Thomas, second dad. Uh stand by a second. Mr. Thomas, you had your hand up earlier as well. [3:24:01, 3:24:03]: Well, I was I was I was gonna sort of [3:24:04, 3:24:08]: speak to Mrs. Barber about something, but I think four hundred uh [3:24:08, 3:24:18]: I think 400, 450 is a good amount to increase uh the budget for the amphitheater. And I think, Mrs. Barr, we can just let it go at that. [3:24:19, 3:24:21]: Uh uh her motion's dead four hundred thousand is what I understand. [3:24:22, 3:24:24]: Four Fiddly. Four Fiddling is fine. [3:24:24, 3:24:28]: I I've seconded that and and hold on, you second which one now? [3:24:28, 3:24:29]: Uh [3:24:30, 3:24:33]: Fourth. Motion for four three. [3:24:33, 3:24:36]: Yeah. Your motion is for how much? [3:24:36, 3:24:38]: Four hundred and fifty thousand dollars. [3:24:39, 3:24:45]: Okay. Well that's that's the one I do second, but I'll do second that okay. Now further this further discussion. [3:24:46, 3:25:03]: Uh Miss Ms. Gantt sorry. Ms. Gantt, go ahead, please. Mayor, uh I do have some citizens from the behind the amphitheater that want would like for us to address the noise mitigation as part of our amphitheater cost. We had discussed it before. [3:25:03, 3:25:10]: Um and I hope that we will bring that and make that a part of our budget at some point in time. Now [3:25:11, 3:25:17]: I don't know where the four hundred and fifty thousand dollars comes from. I don't know if we're just throwing out numbers. That's my biggest concern. [3:25:18, 3:25:22]: Usually at our retreats, our staff comes in. [3:25:22, 3:25:25]: And they tell us what they need. [3:25:25, 3:25:31]: And then they give us, we go by the lines and we discuss what's needed and why. [3:25:33, 3:25:35]: I don't hear that with this. [3:25:35, 3:25:43]: This uh even tonight, uh don't we need chairs? I mean we we're we are we're just guesstimating. [3:25:45, 3:25:51]: A number. We're just throwing numbers out here. We right now we're at forty three million dollars in a budget. [3:25:51, 3:25:54]: From thirteen we're I mean, we're at forty three million dollars. [3:25:55, 3:26:01]: 43 million. And this is, you know, we can talk about ARPRAP funds, but ARPAPons is a one-time deal. [3:26:02, 3:26:08]: That's it. It's for the year. It's for it's a one time deal. They give us this money. They're not gonna replenish it. [3:26:09, 3:26:09]: So [3:26:12, 3:26:23]: I've never seen us do this process like this. Again, I'm not against us putting money, but what what are we putting it in for? What are the dollar amounts? What's the line items? [3:26:23, 3:26:39]: We're just throwing numbers out there. I need a staff member to justify it. Um, I need somebody to justify why we're agreeing to these different numbers and what our budget is gonna actually look like after that. Now it sounds like we're up to almost 44 million. [3:26:40, 3:27:00]: All right, what it is that first of all, the budget ret when we had the budget retreat, obviously the information about the amphitheater wasn't even remotely available at that time anyway, because it because obviously additional costs and things of this nature came up through some conversations as we were executing our first couple of concerts in this aspect. So that's one thing. 450,000 is probably a good guesstimate, but the [3:27:00, 3:27:20]: nail it down, you would we have you have to have chairs, we have to place have to have some type of storage capability for those particular chairs and tables so we wouldn't have to rent them on a continual basis. And then there's some additional things that uh the uh uh that the Radio Alliance had asked for in reference to a backdrop to help with the acoustic sound aspect as well. [3:27:20, 3:27:34]: uh so i don't know the total numbers of all that but 450 is probably a good start in this aspect mr Blount you had your hand up first so mayor one second before he mr Blount though so we're just gonna agree to a number not knowing what [3:27:35, 3:27:49]: we really need an actual cost. What is the cost of noise mitigation for the subdivision behind for the neighborhood behind us? Or the chairs? I have to admit I don't know that that has not happened. Um I'm saying but we're just giving a number. That's that's not responsible. [3:27:50, 3:28:00]: I have same questions. Now my my whole standby. Miss Barber stand by please. Miss Gan, if you're done, Mr. Blount, I'll come to you, Barber, in a little bit. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [3:28:01, 3:28:07]: Mayor, this is why the city, nobody on this Zoom right now. [3:28:08, 3:28:11]: knows the function of this amphitheater in and out. [3:28:12, 3:28:16]: And I would r uh implore this council to that we would go seek. [3:28:17, 3:28:37]: A consultant that will work on behalf of the city when it comes to this amphitheater and everything pertaining to the amphitheater. We've yet to do that. We relied on the we relied on the uh uh uh uh vendor and everybody else. And now the council throwing out figures that we can't validate. Why don't we hire a consultant? [3:28:37, 3:28:39]: consultant that knows this business. [3:28:40, 3:28:56]: To tell us what we can do and what we shouldn't do and how we go about doing it that benefits the city instead of this council trying to run the amphitheater. Wouldn't that be well money money well spent rather than us throwing figures out like this? Well, 400, no, 450. Well [3:28:56, 3:28:59]: Why don't we hire a consultant that works for the city? [3:28:59, 3:29:19]: We actually have someone that can probably do this for us that actually in house and his name is Econuel Ingram in this aspect. And one of the reasons why you probably don't have all the data uh that you think you need to have, and now I'll take responsibility. That's probably because of me. Right. I'll take responsibility of that at this point, um, in that aspect. So it's probably on my shoulders that you you don't have some. [3:29:19, 3:29:23]: No, but but but but all due respect to you. [3:29:24, 3:29:44]: You don't know contractual, uh, how how contracts are formed for this amphitheater, how they should have been formed, what needs to be done. You don't know that. A consultant would would know that. These are the kind of things I'm saying that that would keep us from spending monies we don't have to spend. If the money is validated and it has validity to spending, so be [3:29:44, 3:29:53]: It but it's not on you, it's from some it's it should come from somebody that knows about the amphitheater to validate give validity. [3:29:54, 3:29:56]: to the money that we're spending. [3:29:56, 3:29:57]: It's just that. [3:29:57, 3:30:00]: All right. Thank you, sir. Go ahead. Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. [3:30:01, 3:30:08]: Yeah, let honestly you took the blame and you fell on the sword. And honestly, I'm gonna say it's deserving at this point. [3:30:08, 3:30:13]: Because I mean I think I you did the right thing. Because in the end [3:30:13, 3:30:16]: I think uh Mr. Murray has spoken with you. [3:30:16, 3:30:22]: He has spoken uh you know of at the concerts about different things that were going on and [3:30:22, 3:30:24]: He made the point that [3:30:24, 3:30:29]: They were renting this equipment that was causing thousands of dollars. That's why we're doing it. [3:30:30, 3:30:38]: Is that instead of spending the same amount renting the equipment in 2022, we're going to buy it? Isn't that what he said? [3:30:39, 3:30:39]: That's correct. [3:30:40, 3:30:42]: Now again we hired them. [3:30:42, 3:30:49]: To do exactly what Mr. Blount said. Their job, we have a contract with them to run the amphitheater. [3:30:49, 3:31:05]: uh it and split the profit with us uh as uh as the vendor so we do have somebody in place in order to uh to run the amphitheater and then if they don't do a good job they got a 12 month contract and we can let them go [3:31:05, 3:31:10]: So in the end, that's how we ended up in this position is that [3:31:11, 3:31:29]: We do have an idea of what the numbers were. I believe a number was given to you, Mayor, at what it was going to take in order to purchase this equipment. So we didn't do the same thing that we did this year and waste another$200,000 uh uh or on on this equipment. Is that correct? [3:31:30, 3:31:50]: Well, I did get some numbers on this aspect, but uh in reference to all that, I would tell you I wanted to make sure that before I've decided I signed any contracts or made any commitments and before I came to you all with that, I want to make sure that everything was legally in place. And one of those things actually dealt with the actual contract itself and revising of that particular contract to ensure [3:31:50, 3:32:10]: that not only the concerts that they say that we have, but the additional concerts that we want to have in reference to uh the the the concerts that we have a lot of summer type concerts that we're able to utilize and make sure that's outlined properly in the contract itself. And then also in a sense of how we can go about which is what well Mr. Thomas [3:32:10, 3:32:30]: Thomas has been asking about how we won and and actually actually it is uh it we won't review it tonight. It won't probably won't be the twenty till the twenty-first, but in reference to the rental process of the of the green room, that was all part of some things to try to get together and make sure I had good legal advice and made sound sense before we came to the council uh for the review. [3:32:30, 3:32:50]: aspect and how to go about doing all that. So that's why I said what I said earlier. I'm not I'm not joking the responsibility. It's been coming across my desk. I understand that. I got the floor right now, right? There's certain there are things that have come across my desk. [3:32:49, 3:33:05]: that I wanted to make sure that I got good proper legal advice on in this aspect. And there's probably some things I should have communicated with Mr. Wiggins in reference to further increase that the particular ampathy budget and come to you all with that. Now I accept that responsibility. [3:33:05, 3:33:11]: Alexander, if you don't mind. [3:33:12, 3:33:18]: Let me finish with what I have to say. I got the floor, so let me hold on. Let me can I finish? [3:33:19, 3:33:28]: Okay, go ahead now. All right. Go ahead, sir. Now in essence, I mayor, I'm not blaming you because you're functioning in a position of the city manager right now. [3:33:29, 3:33:37]: That's not your expertise. You're doing that and you're doing a great, you're doing as well a job as anybody could have did as a layman trying to fill in for the position. [3:33:37, 3:33:39]: Right? I mean it's hard on any of us. [3:33:40, 3:33:41]: But let us not [3:33:41, 3:33:44]: act like we're gonna be operating in this position. [3:33:45, 3:34:04]: In the budget next year. We'll have a seasoned city manager in place to navigate this. This is why the budget process has never been like this before, right? We don't have a seasoned city manager to uh guide us through this process. We're doing what's necessary based on the best information that we have. [3:34:05, 3:34:25]: And then this vendor with the amphitheater has provided us with these extraneous costs and we're trying to work those into the budget like we should, because it would be irresponsible to go out and rent two hundred thousand dollars worth of equipment again this year when we know better. Last year we didn't know better. This year [3:34:25, 3:34:32]: We know better and we'll get full use out of that in order to do what we're doing. Of course, Georgia Alliance has. [3:34:33, 3:34:44]: uh their their events that we run. But the attorneys have been very clear with us that we have and in that contract, it allows us to have city events there. So we're okay with that. [3:34:45, 3:34:50]: All right. Uh actually I'm going to Miss Barber. I think her hand hand up before yours, Mr. Thomas. [3:34:52, 3:34:55]: Yes. Um I think there is still a motion on the floor. [3:34:56, 3:34:58]: Uh yeah, but we're in discussion right now. [3:34:58, 3:35:04]: Okay, but we're off topic. Um, can I ask the city clerk to read back that motion? [3:35:07, 3:35:11]: The motion made by Councilman Barber is a proposed budget. [3:35:12, 3:35:17]: for the amphitheater in the amount of four hundred and fifty thousand dollars for fiscal year twenty two. [3:35:17, 3:35:23]: Second it by Councilman Thomas. Yeah, I second that and I call for the vote as well. [3:35:23, 3:35:32]: Well Mr. Thomas Mr. Thomas had his hand up, sir. Can I show the motion was seconded by Councilman Thomas? Is that not right? [3:35:32, 3:35:39]: That is correct. I said okay, I'm sorry. I thought I was like Do I still have the floor, Mayor Ford? [3:35:39, 3:35:39]: Well [3:35:40, 3:35:43]: Go ahead, uh Ms. Brown. I appreciate it. Thank you. [3:35:43, 3:35:46]: You're welcome. So what I was gonna ask is [3:35:46, 3:35:52]: I've never seen an invoice or the cost of these tables and chairs at all. [3:35:53, 3:35:57]: Absolutely. I just gave an estimate of what the budget should be. [3:35:57, 3:36:02]: I'm sure Mr. Wiggins has access to whatever invoices that were paid. [3:36:02, 3:36:05]: Um, in regards to those tables and chairs that we rented. [3:36:06, 3:36:10]: Somebody else staff has that. You mayor forward, someone has it. [3:36:11, 3:36:12]: So if I need to increase [3:36:13, 3:36:15]: This proposed amount of this budget. [3:36:15, 3:36:16]: In my emotion. [3:36:16, 3:36:18]: Please let me know now. [3:36:18, 3:36:19]: The other [3:36:20, 3:36:22]: thing I wanted to say is [3:36:22, 3:36:27]: the contract in which you signed for this management company, Mayor Ford. [3:36:28, 3:36:29]: It's not the contract. [3:36:29, 3:36:32]: that was presented to this council and approved. [3:36:32, 3:36:33]: So I'm asking. [3:36:34, 3:36:35]: that you bring that contract. [3:36:36, 3:36:37]: Back to the council. [3:36:38, 3:36:39]: for us to review it. [3:36:39, 3:36:41]: and have some discussions about it. [3:36:42, 3:36:48]: The day after we approved that contract, I had serious concerns then. [3:36:48, 3:36:51]: So now you're telling me we still got concerns. [3:36:52, 3:36:55]: Bring the contract back to the council so that we can review it. [3:36:56, 3:36:59]: and ultimately approve it or make some decisions. [3:37:00, 3:37:02]: I don't want us to move forward. [3:37:03, 3:37:07]: With so much uncertainty about a whole lot of stuff. [3:37:08, 3:37:11]: I was concerned about even approving this budget today. [3:37:11, 3:37:15]: For the very reason there are so many unanswered questions here. [3:37:15, 3:37:17]: I'm the newest member of the council. [3:37:18, 3:37:23]: This is the second time that I've gone through this whole budget review process. [3:37:24, 3:37:27]: Yes, we're going through it without a city a city manager. [3:37:27, 3:37:31]: But I'm certainly relying on my season council members. [3:37:31, 3:37:32]: to lead the way. [3:37:32, 3:37:34]: And they're not. We're just arguing. [3:37:34, 3:37:41]: about issues that we know we need to take care of. We know that we need to approve a budget. [3:37:41, 3:37:56]: Is there any alternative that we have besides us approving this budget tonight with so much uncertainty? Are we able to put this off to the next meeting and just hash out some of the uncertain or unanswered questions? [3:37:57, 3:37:58]: What can we do? [3:37:59, 3:38:19]: Well let me answer one of the first questions. Let me answer one of the questions. Uh in reference to the contract itself, and I I've got to talk to Jeremy. We had some discussion about trying to work through the process to revise it based on some other concerns that you and other council members have. Primarily what it deals with is making sure that [3:38:19, 3:38:39]: That the right language is in there so what we, since it's our amphitheater, can be able to utilize that when the when uh for our certain events, whether it's for other additional concerts or like a summer concert series or other events, whether it's for like the green room rental for for citizens, or if we wanted if the Henry County schools wanted to use it for some reason or some other activity and work on those things. [3:38:39, 3:38:44]: things out not only in the contract, but also work that things out in reference to the rental agreement itself. [3:38:44, 3:39:04]: for the review that the that the that the attorneys need to have and we're still working through that process. Now there is in reference to the the contract still working the process and the actual initial contract for the rental of the green room and some guidelines. We have that the the attorneys have to finish their review on that. I have a copy of that where we still got to talk about a few [3:39:04, 3:39:08]: few things and it has to be presented to the council. Originally I thought we would be able to do it tonight. [3:39:09, 3:39:29]: And obviously the meet we're meeting is very long anyway. So I'm looking forward to that. Hold on a second. When you finish, please let me finish, please. So that let me hold on. I'm still talking. Okay. So what it amounts to is that we're working through that process. Okay. So the the uh the revived any revised contract has not been signed. [3:39:29, 3:39:41]: uh uh for uh by me because it hasn't been presented back to you and we're still working through that and that that's an intent uh to to do that as we can continue to work through this whole process so in that aspect now [3:39:41, 3:39:52]: I don't I seem like hold on a second, please, because whole whole lot of people want to talk here. Now, now I I was trying to answer your question, Miss Barber. If you got something else and then eventually once you're done, I gotta move on to some other people. So what else do you have to say at this point? [3:39:53, 3:39:55]: All of those conditions that the council [3:39:56, 3:39:56]: Um [3:39:57, 3:39:58]: Red. [3:39:59, 3:40:03]: In August, when the original contract was presented to us. [3:40:03, 3:40:05]: Every one of those conditions. [3:40:06, 3:40:20]: should have been included in this contract. If it is not, then yes, please ask the city clerk to pull up those minutes so you can get all those conditions and include them in this revised contract. [3:40:20, 3:40:28]: Yes, they were in the someone brought up a condition. Someone brought up a condition to change the language in the contract, not giving. [3:40:28, 3:40:31]: Um anyone exclusive rights to the amphitheater. [3:40:32, 3:40:40]: The term ex an issue. It was an issue then, and it's an issue for us now, and it will be in the future. So we need to get it right. [3:40:41, 3:40:55]: Um, I do want to move forward with um the approval of the motion that we have on the table. Unless not not just yet. We can't do that just yet. Jeremy, you said something earlier, sir. I just want to make sure that you're able to uh make a clear statement if you need to make a clear statement. [3:40:56, 3:41:04]: Thank you, Mayor. I was just responding to the comment and I watched the YouTube video numerous times. Every condition that was mentioned during the council meeting. [3:41:05, 3:41:09]: When this contract was approved, made it into the final contract. [3:41:12, 3:41:17]: Okay, Mr. Thomas said to me I have any of the conditions. [3:41:17, 3:41:23]: Mayor, uh please Cas Warren Barber, um I'm I'm with you on that. [3:41:24, 3:41:37]: Ms. Barber, all thing I ask, just just pull back for a minute. Um let's let's you know let's let's do some of this homework uh at another time, if you would. [3:41:37, 3:41:44]: I think what's important now is the 450,000. We know that there are some things that we need to do. [3:41:45, 3:41:47]: So if you just ought to just [3:41:48, 3:41:56]: Listen to my tone and understand where I'm coming from. And let's just go ahead and the 450 is is is is is a placement. [3:41:56, 3:42:03]: uh it may be more and we can actually do that. But I think um and I'm gonna say this with the mayor. [3:42:03, 3:42:06]: I've I've made some qu inquiries myself. [3:42:07, 3:42:09]: So I know Mayor Ford um [3:42:09, 3:42:12]: Some of the conversation that I've had. [3:42:12, 3:42:15]: I know uh Mayor Pro Tem made some inquiries as well. [3:42:16, 3:42:18]: So they're just some information. [3:42:18, 3:42:29]: that um i'm assuming mayor that you're gonna bring this to us at the appropriate time so i'm just saying councilwoman barber let let us go let us just go forward and [3:42:30, 3:42:32]: All of our concern will be met. [3:42:33, 3:42:36]: Uh this is just not the time to do it. [3:42:36, 3:42:38]: So let's let's go forward. [3:42:39, 3:42:44]: Mayor, I'd like to withdraw my motion and allow someone else to make the motion. Please. [3:42:44, 3:42:48]: All right. [3:42:48, 3:42:49]: Okay. [3:42:49, 3:42:50]: All right. [3:42:50, 3:42:51]: What's [3:42:51, 3:42:54]: I I I I motion to increase [3:42:55, 3:43:00]: the amphitheaters uh budget to four hundred and fifty thousand. [3:43:01, 3:43:06]: Yeah, I I was I will second that and I need to understand, like I said, uh [3:43:06, 3:43:10]: You know, Councilwoman Barber, a lot of this frustration comes from [3:43:10, 3:43:19]: You know, things being thrown into the mix. The goal here was to get the budget. We're setting amount for the budget so that we can move forward. [3:43:19, 3:43:31]: We can always change it. The goal here tonight is to work through these things and Councilman Thomas is right. Let's just call that's why I kept calling for the vote. This discussions were unnecessary. So let's go ahead and move forward. So I second. [3:43:32, 3:43:38]: Appreciate it. But we're gonna continu okay, Mr. Blocks. Go ahead, please. Merrick, a question. Um [3:43:39, 3:43:42]: And I'm in agreement. The contract that we all discussed. [3:43:43, 3:43:46]: Do do they have a contract right now? [3:43:46, 3:43:47]: Yes. [3:43:47, 3:44:07]: They're still in the contract. Then how are we still working on it? Because we're going to we're there's a lot, there's a pair, there's a couple sentences or so, and and that I've discussed further with Jeremy. I believe Mr. Mr. Washington knows about this as well. That allows us to make some adjustments, even though the contract does exist. And that's those adjustments will allow us to to have [3:44:07, 3:44:15]: the the use of our amphithe like we will want it for our own personal city specific events. [3:44:15, 3:44:35]: you know in this aspect and that that's what we were going at and and i and i i haven't come back forward to you on that until i have the attorneys work it out with with the cup with their company and their attorneys to make sure we got a good solid product and then come back so they're still under a contract but they're agree they're agreeing to the fact that we can work out and make some additional changes to [3:44:35, 3:44:36]: to allow us to do some things. [3:44:37, 3:44:39]: My question is then Mayor. [3:44:40, 3:44:45]: Because I think it was pretty clear from this council that we did not want to relinquish any [3:44:46, 3:44:50]: Any uh uh we we want to have some deviation from [3:44:51, 3:44:53]: That company to be able to do something. [3:44:53, 3:44:58]: And if those provisions was added to the contract, so right now you guys are in [3:44:58, 3:45:02]: contract negotiations with a piece of paper you already have. [3:45:02, 3:45:06]: I have an awe that that piece of paper that you guys are getting ready to discuss. [3:45:07, 3:45:17]: On top of what we've already discussed, it hadn't been given to council to see. So only thing you gotta do is show it to a vendor. Why haven't we seen that piece of paper? Because in the reason being, I'm saying, mayor. [3:45:18, 3:45:19]: Is when you when you take [3:45:20, 3:45:28]: When you take the elected body out of a process that they have started in and then make uh make for revisions or provisions. [3:45:28, 3:45:47]: Without our knowledge, then you're gonna find something that we haven't approved, yet still we don't understand the total operations now. But if all it is that you all have the paperwork, why haven't we seen at least seen the contract that we're negotiating? Because this is a property of our, we could have done it in executive session. [3:45:47, 3:46:01]: Well, w what it is that what it is, Councilman Blount, is that I wanted the attorneys to work out the details and then bring it back to you all before I sign it. That was the intent. And that's still the intent. And it's asked now that we're on I mean, we're getting kind of sidetracked, but let me ask you this then. [3:46:01, 3:46:21]: There have been contracts that come before me in reference to entertainment. Do you want me to bring all those back to you before I sign on them as well? Because I mayor, no, sir. Okay. Because you you and I know back in 2016 we had a discussion about a contract that you signed that none of the council members knew anything about. [3:46:22, 3:46:36]: And I don't want to go down that road. So I want to say that in the future, and I've always said it from that day on, from 2016 to now, that any provisions made in any contracts that we're involved in, we should stay in the loop of it because I agree with Councilwoman Barber. [3:46:37, 3:46:49]: We had a vision of what we wanted to happen with that amphitheater in the environment with the city of Stockbridge. And is all is all you have now is it on paper now to negotiate. We should have had that paper. [3:46:50, 3:46:51]: It's simple as that. [3:46:52, 3:46:52]: Okay. [3:46:53, 3:46:58]: Okay, so uh make sure I understand this now though, in reference to [3:46:58, 3:46:59]: Entertainment [3:47:00, 3:47:20]: Uh that is uh potentially being scheduled. Uh you want me to show that to the entire council before I sign off on the I know hold on, hold on. I just want to make sure I understand. No, no, I'm I'm I'm only thing I'm trying to make clear is okay, is that whatever provisions that you all put in that contract to negotiate. [3:47:19, 3:47:23]: negotiate. That should already be set right now. Okay. [3:47:24, 3:47:26]: Only thing you got to do is go negotiate it. [3:47:26, 3:47:41]: Okay. We should understand right now, have a clear understanding of the provisions that have been set in there and make sure it's in line with the vision with the vision of the council for the amphitheater, rather than the mayor and the and the attorneys going out doing it. That's all I'm saying. [3:47:42, 3:47:50]: All right. All right. Well, attorneys here, they'll keep me straight on this. Make sure what we'll do the proper thing in this aspect as well. Um all right. So the motions on the floor. [3:47:52, 3:47:57]: Mayor Folk, I have my hand raised. I do have a last and final comment, if I may. Um go ahead. [3:47:57, 3:47:58]: According to [3:47:59, 3:48:02]: the management company of the amphitheater. [3:48:02, 3:48:03]: Um [3:48:03, 3:48:05]: In the contract. [3:48:06, 3:48:09]: The one that the council approved, not the one that you signed. [3:48:09, 3:48:10]: The one we approved. [3:48:11, 3:48:12]: It was specific. [3:48:13, 3:48:13]: that [3:48:15, 3:48:19]: The city could have events at the amphitheater. [3:48:19, 3:48:25]: But they could not be concerts or any activities that would compete. [3:48:25, 3:48:27]: With concerts. [3:48:28, 3:48:29]: We contracted them. [3:48:30, 3:48:32]: To manage our amphitheater for [3:48:32, 3:48:33]: Concerts. [3:48:34, 3:48:37]: So yes, when you're speaking about events. [3:48:37, 3:48:40]: That's bridge fest, that's ball festival. [3:48:40, 3:48:43]: That's any other little city event. [3:48:43, 3:48:45]: when it comes to concerts. [3:48:46, 3:48:47]: Entertainment. [3:48:49, 3:48:50]: The contract. [3:48:50, 3:48:56]: spoke specifically about um prohibiting us from having any concerts. [3:48:57, 3:49:06]: That is why we had those conditions added or we requested to add those conditions. So I want you, I want everyone to be clear. [3:49:06, 3:49:22]: There's a difference between what the contract outlines as it pertains to events and what it speaks to as it pertains to concerts. I am concerned about the exclusive rights, because if we wanted to hold any kind of concerts, [3:49:23, 3:49:25]: For example, the sheriff's office [3:49:26, 3:49:27]: Earlier this year. [3:49:27, 3:49:30]: Agreed to host concerts at the end. [3:49:32, 3:49:32]: So [3:49:33, 3:49:34]: Next year. [3:49:34, 3:49:36]: Under this existing contract. [3:49:38, 3:49:41]: The management company would be responsible for managing them. [3:49:42, 3:49:45]: And that is not what the desire of the council. [3:49:46, 3:49:46]: Wanted. [3:49:47, 3:49:49]: We don't want to give exclusive rights. [3:49:50, 3:49:53]: That was a deal that was already on the table. [3:49:53, 3:49:56]: before we even approved a management contract. [3:49:57, 3:50:11]: So I want to make sure that we are clear on that and we can move forward with the most well I I would tell you that's part of the the go the original no additional no s uh negotiations in this aspect that the our attorneys are going to have with their attorneys in this aspect. That's what what you're talking about is what's what's uh [3:50:12, 3:50:22]: Is what we're doing. We're working on the thing. And that mayor, if I may, that is it that is very clear with all the parties. We're making sure that the language says all that. The intent is crystal clear on both sides. [3:50:23, 3:50:23]: Yeah. [3:50:25, 3:50:26]: All right. [3:50:26, 3:50:27]: Now we had a [3:50:28, 3:50:28]: We had a motion. [3:50:29, 3:50:40]: Mr. Thomas made a motion. Mayor Pro Tem uh the second that motion for to add$450,000 to the ample theater budget uh line. All right. All in favor of motion, please indicate. [3:50:41, 3:50:46]: One, two, three. Okay. Uh Mr. Blount, Ms. Gantt? [3:50:47, 3:50:56]: I abstain only because I don't know where the four hundred and fifty thousand dollars comes from. We don't have a specific itemized anything. Mr. Blount? [3:50:57, 3:50:59]: That's the same. I have no idea where this figure comes from. [3:50:59, 3:51:04]: Okay, it's three zero two. The motion passed. I don't know with the two hundred and fifty thousand dollars covered either. [3:51:04, 3:51:13]: Let's call it down. Everybody take it down, Tom. Take it down. I wanted to have it. [3:51:13, 3:51:14]: Okay. [3:51:15, 3:51:17]: Okay, what um [3:51:17, 3:51:30]: What else what what what Mr. uh Wigan sent out also, you all should have received that. I have here on here it says Kekinwood, City Project Manager for all capital projects. And my assumptions I thought they were already doing that. Is that not correct? [3:51:32, 3:51:35]: I think Mayor, if I could speak to that for a second. [3:51:35, 3:51:40]: I think the idea was to have to be able to move these projects along. [3:51:40, 3:51:41]: And to have them be [3:51:42, 3:51:43]: the project manager for [3:51:44, 3:51:48]: All the projects going forward to make sure that we have somebody [3:51:48, 3:51:53]: Uh in our wheelhouse because they've been doing a good job of of pushing back. [3:51:53, 3:51:54]: On these vendors. [3:51:55, 3:51:59]: And we clearly know that they have the experts, the engineers, the staff. [3:51:59, 3:52:04]: To be able to push back when somebody says I need A, I got unsuitable source. [3:52:04, 3:52:17]: They have the experts to tell us whether they're telling the truth or not. And I and I've seen that and we've all seen that. So the the the idea is to have them be our eyes on the Cultural Arts Center. [3:52:17, 3:52:28]: uh on the on trails, on all of the projects that we got going forward uh to move uh in that direction. Uh we may need to uh you know that that was the desire behind. [3:52:30, 3:52:45]: But but okay, maybe um once again I got that, but I've always thought that they had oversight of that anyway. We already have they they they have oversight of specific projects, but they don't have oversight over total all capital projects, but they got specific projects. [3:52:45, 3:53:05]: Or so we make total projects. Does that change their that change their number for their employment with us then? Is that the case? We would need to go back to them and renegotiate and to talk to them. This idea isn't just to get you or the new city manager to sit down and talk with them, to see what it will take to get them to actually be the capital projects manager for the city. [3:53:05, 3:53:22]: We can't put we're not trying to do that tonight without having, we just want to make sure that we get that uh sent as a consensus to move forward with having a new city manager and yourself sit down with them to see what it's gonna take to bring them on board. [3:53:22, 3:53:29]: because they've told us that they could scale up to whatever we wanted to do in terms of project. We have millions of dollars coming. [3:53:29, 3:53:32]: And they're the ones that are gonna look over to make sure that [3:53:32, 3:53:36]: those dollars are being spent appropriately and be able to report back to council. [3:53:36, 3:53:37]: All right. [3:53:37, 3:53:42]: All right. I'm I'm fine with that. Any other questions, concerns about that these comments in uh Keck and Wood? [3:53:43, 3:53:48]: Or if not, what's on here next? I got Fourth of July holiday event with concert fireworks and food trucks. [3:53:49, 3:54:09]: And so I imagine that should be a some type of increased budget a budget line for uh a fourth of like a fourth of July celebration aspect. Then I I'm remiss on the amount that may be tagged to that at this point. Is that a sign? Yes, sir. Mayor, as uh as you recall, we had what uh what [3:54:09, 3:54:29]: what what do we have set aside for the the uh hundred year anniversary uh but i think it was ten thousand dollars i think that was fifty thousand or something was it fifty thousand yes fifty thousand okay but in the in the end that was uh around our anniversary time which was uh uh I think august sixth but this gives us an opportunity [3:54:29, 3:54:32]: To have a day in the city. [3:54:32, 3:54:34]: Where it's a revenue generator. [3:54:34, 3:54:44]: Uh it's a all day event because right now nobody has the Fourth of July. They don't have anything. So anybody in this community that wants to celebrate the Fourth of July. [3:54:44, 3:54:46]: You gotta go down to Centennial Park. [3:54:47, 3:54:48]: Or you gotta go. [3:54:48, 3:54:49]: To something on the north side. [3:54:50, 3:54:53]: We could have a uh a premiere event where we could have [3:54:54, 3:54:56]: The amphitheater uh on [3:54:56, 3:54:57]: Uh [3:54:57, 3:54:58]: Front Street. [3:54:58, 3:55:00]: Where we have people in downtown. [3:55:00, 3:55:03]: Supporting downtown businesses. [3:55:03, 3:55:07]: And having that crush just come here every single year. [3:55:07, 3:55:18]: on the holiday with the food trucks, with the fireworks, we get to have that anniversary not one time, we get to have it every year uh going forward. [3:55:18, 3:55:35]: on the holiday itself, not on the holiday weekend, on July the 4th, where folks have a place to go to celebrate on July 4th for the holiday right here in our community with a concert, food trucks, activities right here on July the 4th. [3:55:37, 3:55:40]: All right, so right now there's nothing in obviously in the budget for that, correct? [3:55:41, 3:55:42]: So [3:55:43, 3:56:03]: That is something that would have to be added. And um ten thousand for the fourth of July. It's ten thousand? It's ten thousand there, but you will have to see that so that's why I said okay, that's what that's what I thought. So that was okay, that's for right now. That's ten thousand there now. But May Merced, you said fifty thousand. That must have been the fifty thousand after twenty twenty twenty [3:56:03, 3:56:10]: twenty for the centennial process is what right right I was thinking about the centennial project for us to be able to do it [3:56:14, 3:56:15]: You're you're unmuted. [3:56:15, 3:56:19]: For the centennial project, we have fifty thousand dollars in there. [3:56:19, 3:56:26]: So I'm thinking about doing something grand, but if uh you know that's what we will need to get um [3:56:27, 3:56:36]: I that's what I was talking about doing. If you're gonna do a concert, you're not gonna be able to pay the X with fifty thousand dollars with ten thousand dollars, you know what I mean? Right. [3:56:37, 3:56:41]: So at this point I certainly would want to move forward and uh [3:56:41, 3:56:45]: Put a placeholder in there if uh the the council's agreeable to that. [3:56:45, 3:56:49]: Uh, so that we could have a significant event on the fourth of July. [3:56:49, 3:56:54]: And m maybe I could ask someone, Mr. What was the amount for the centennial amount? [3:56:55, 3:57:01]: Mr. Wiggins, do you have that? We're gonna have a centennial concert last year, but we did not have it. What was that about? [3:57:04, 3:57:18]: Give me a second to get to it. Um because that event was going to be, you know, Mayor, we we put a whole lot into that because we wanted to be significant, but we could have that event every year and it wouldn't cost us because in the end. [3:57:18, 3:57:22]: We we you know the vendors that want to come down here and supply. [3:57:22, 3:57:25]: Uh the the the concert would be sold out. We could have more than one. [3:57:26, 3:57:30]: in a in a t in in in their days period and they would be back to back and they would sell out. [3:57:30, 3:57:32]: Just with so many people downtown. [3:57:32, 3:57:40]: But I want to know what that amount is, because that amount was meant for a grand event. And that grand event, that's the magnitude that we need to be on. [3:57:44, 3:57:46]: Well, it's [3:57:46, 3:57:53]: I have to put it up. Um, it seems like in twenty twenty, that's when the budget when you had the budget. [3:57:54, 3:57:54]: Right. [3:57:57, 3:58:05]: So be last year's uh well last year's budget for the centennial year that we went into the US was in 2020. [3:58:06, 3:58:09]: Right. I think [3:58:10, 3:58:14]: Yeah, I'm still trying to pull it up on let me go to the twenty twenty budget. [3:58:15, 3:58:18]: Miss Holliday, you have any idea what that was? [3:58:20, 3:58:32]: I believe it was budgeted at fifty, but I believe they only spent twenty-nine due due to the pandemic. It was twenty-some thousand that was actually spent because we didn't do the full scale events because of COVID. [3:58:32, 3:58:37]: Okay, so that's what my recollection too was that it was for uh [3:58:37, 3:58:40]: fifty. So I'm prepared to make a motion. [3:58:40, 3:58:44]: uh to move forward with this uh for such a significant event. [3:58:44, 3:58:47]: that it will it will be going for here for [3:58:47, 3:59:05]: And I will assure you that this event will make money. So I would like to make a motion to move forward with the July 4th celebration here in the city. Extravaganza. I like to have a little fun. It's been late, right? Uh for the year for$50,000 in the budget. [3:59:05, 3:59:15]: And I was just wanted to say, yes, uh uh Vanessa is correct. It was fifty thousand, but we spent about twenty thousand that year in twenty twenty. [3:59:15, 3:59:17]: All right. Is there a second to the motion? [3:59:19, 3:59:21]: Mr. Thomas seconds that motion. Further discussion. [3:59:24, 3:59:25]: No further discussion. [3:59:26, 3:59:31]: All in favor of the motion, please indicate one, two, three. [3:59:32, 3:59:36]: Mr Okay, Ms. King. Abstain, Mr. Blount? [3:59:36, 3:59:40]: Yeah, same here, sir. Okay, three zero two, the motion passed. [3:59:42, 3:59:43]: Okay. [3:59:44, 3:59:54]: The next thing I had on this list that dealt with Halloween Carnival Trunk or Treat or Hon Halloween Night Downtown ML King Senior Heratus Trail was on this list here. [3:59:55, 3:59:57]: We we uh yes sir if I might [3:59:57, 3:59:58]: Go right in. [3:59:58, 4:00:02]: We have s we have spent a lot of time and effort on the amphitheater. [4:00:03, 4:00:04]: The Common Cultural Arts Center. [4:00:05, 4:00:08]: And we really need to task uh Main Street with creating [4:00:09, 4:00:11]: A or an entity city events. [4:00:12, 4:00:13]: Uh downtown. [4:00:13, 4:00:20]: That actually incorporates something major in the downtown. I remember growing up as a young man. [4:00:20, 4:00:22]: I was from a small town. [4:00:23, 4:00:26]: But everybody in the entire Green County. [4:00:26, 4:00:28]: would come to the Halloween carnal. [4:00:29, 4:00:30]: And they will spend time and [4:00:31, 4:00:33]: The local businesses would be involved. [4:00:33, 4:00:36]: Uh we had the uh low local clother. [4:00:36, 4:00:40]: Would open their business and they would turn it into the scary house. [4:00:40, 4:00:42]: And then they had [4:00:42, 4:00:48]: The officials or the principal was set in the dunking booth and allow you to throw the bar the things and knock the booth down. [4:00:49, 4:00:53]: We gotta have some signature events. The July fourth is one of them. [4:00:53, 4:01:12]: But Halloween is certainly certainly another one of them where we do it on MLK Senior Heritage Trail where all of the businesses, and at this point, there's going to be more businesses there on MLK Senior Trail on that night where we put together a fabulous event. [4:01:12, 4:01:16]: Right now, cause we understand that a lot of entities have trunk or tree. [4:01:16, 4:01:17]: But [4:01:17, 4:01:22]: It to to offer a safe alternative for kids to trick or treat because there's so many dangers. [4:01:22, 4:01:23]: Out there. [4:01:23, 4:01:26]: I'm envisioning something like a trick or treat. [4:01:26, 4:01:27]: Well a chunk or treat. [4:01:27, 4:01:35]: And then uh some carnival like atmosphere downtown that will bring uh those entities together for us. [4:01:37, 4:01:38]: Okay. [4:01:39, 4:01:41]: All right. Yes, ma'am. [4:01:41, 4:01:55]: This year I had the first fall festival and it was on the day before Halloween. Um usually we give the other council members the courtesy of speaking of whether or not we want to turn that into a city event. [4:01:56, 4:02:13]: It was outstanding and there was a huge turnout. It would be great to be able to put more money into it and have additional rides and and and additional themes. But I plan on having the same event again next year. Um I've already reserved for it. [4:02:14, 4:02:18]: And it's already been placed on the calendar for next year. [4:02:18, 4:02:28]: Um, if the other council members want to join in with that, I would love it. Um and if it continues to grow or if we want to make it a city event, then that's what we [4:02:28, 4:02:31]: you know, we'll do, but right now [4:02:31, 4:02:39]: Um this past year was my first one and I think that it it was a really it turned out to be phenomenal. I mean we [4:02:39, 4:02:42]: They did three hundred bags of candy and it was gone and [4:02:43, 4:02:44]: Forty five minutes. [4:02:44, 4:02:47]: Um and so I think that if we [4:02:48, 4:02:50]: um continue that growth then great. [4:02:51, 4:02:55]: Um, if there's gonna be a separate event, then so be it. But [4:02:55, 4:03:03]: I think in the past we've respected other council members and their events and not stepped on our toes to do and reinvent something that we're already doing. [4:03:04, 4:03:07]: If I could reply to that, Mayor. Yeah, go right. [4:03:07, 4:03:14]: I don't Councilwoman Gantt does not have to cancel her event. She can still have her event. She has it in Clark Park in the parking lot. [4:03:15, 4:03:15]: No. [4:03:16, 4:03:34]: Uh this event will be on MLK Senior Heritage Trail in the heart of downtown. So people can see the amphitheater, they can see the new uh Main Street welcome office, the new the businesses of downtown, the people can be down there and they can be immersed. [4:03:34, 4:03:35]: Uh in downtown. [4:03:35, 4:03:37]: That's what this is about. [4:03:38, 4:03:51]: It it could be both because uh I mean I think your event was on the Saturday. Halloween is not always on Saturday. So if your Halloween event is going to be on Saturday and then Halloween uh is on Thursday. [4:03:51, 4:03:54]: Or on Wednesday, there's separation between the two. [4:03:55, 4:04:03]: The kids come to the street. I I have it scheduled for the day before Halloween. But we're doing like trunk retreats next year. [4:04:03, 4:04:09]: Um and I've already started planning for a bigger and better. I mean, if we want to combine it, great. [4:04:09, 4:04:11]: But I've already [4:04:11, 4:04:16]: pretty much already scheduled for another another one next year. [4:04:16, 4:04:27]: uh you want to if you want to uh combine your event with the city event we can move it to mlk senior heritage we can fund it appropriately and it becomes a city event we can do that [4:04:29, 4:04:36]: That would be that probably would be better and advantageous. It doesn't make sense to have two of'em and spend way more money than we need. [4:04:37, 4:04:48]: But right now the plan was to have um that particular event I had already reserved for it. And it wasn't in the parking lot, it was actually at Clark Park, the entire park. [4:04:48, 4:05:08]: So it was it we wanted to make sure at the time that whether or not it was damp and it was raining, but they came out, they still played, and there were hundreds of participants. And it was a good old-fashioned and my concern with that is um some of the games that were played were some of the old school games I used to play in my small town. [4:05:08, 4:05:18]: whether we did the cakewalk and the hoo hoop contest and next year maybe the three legged race and a couple other things, it was a great festival. Everybody sold out. [4:05:18, 4:05:28]: Um, and we just had a really good time. It was very family oriented. It was a gr uh it's something I've been wanting to do for a long time and it turned out to be great. [4:05:29, 4:05:40]: Well, you know, I proposed this same event maybe about two years ago in twenty eighteen. But again, if you if we want to move the event to uh the thirty-first. [4:05:41, 4:05:46]: And then it can be funded appropriately and then it can be a city event. [4:05:46, 4:06:06]: I don't think we have any argument to do that. If it's going to be a city event, uh, we're going to move it downtown so the business owners can be involved. And it's not just a city standalone event. And it I'm certainly okay if we're doing that. If you want to uh uh you know, uh all of those entities can work together. This is an opportunity where we you and I can actually work together. [4:06:06, 4:06:10]: together and the whole council i if if if if that's agreeable to you. [4:06:15, 4:06:26]: I had skipped I don't mind doing a s a a Halloween event is what I'm trying to tell you with the city. I don't mind, but I had already planned for it again for next year and I've [4:06:26, 4:06:37]: I I don't know if it will take away from it or not. I don't think I mind it being combined. I don't if if the city's gonna fund it and we all participate, so be it. I don't know about it being on Halloween. [4:06:37, 4:06:57]: Um, I don't want to take away from the tradition of Halloween being in the community and the subdivisions. Um, but I have no objection to doing it in our downtown Main Street area or near our amp, you know, on that strip or or wherever we're gonna do with it. I have no objection to any of that, but I I would like [4:06:57, 4:07:07]: um some buy-in and some say-so because I think it was really important that the particular type of things we did there were like old school traditions that I I'm used to. [4:07:08, 4:07:16]: That's all I think I think we'll all have some say so uh in the event, including you and uh some of the things that you said worked out very well. [4:07:16, 4:07:19]: So certainly we would want to incorporate [4:07:19, 4:07:27]: uh those into the event. But I think all having all of the council members uh be able to participate in it. I mean we're twelve, we're nine. [4:07:27, 4:07:29]: Ten months out, so [4:07:29, 4:07:34]: I don't think it's too late to change the date and work with us and have all of us be able to work with this in [4:07:35, 4:07:36]: Uh this together. I think [4:07:36, 4:07:43]: You had to kind of scrap a little bit of the budget together in order to make it work. If it's a city event, we're gonna fund it. [4:07:43, 4:08:03]: uh appropriately with the right amount of funding to make it okay. And I think it's key that it's on Halloween itself. It gives people the idea, it gives them a option rather than going into the community where it has been. And then they could do both. They could come to us and they could still go uh [4:08:03, 4:08:06]: out trick or treating uh as well. So that is [4:08:06, 4:08:12]: uh what I have proposed. I'd like to hear from the rest of the council members. Not just up to me. It's what everybody here [4:08:12, 4:08:16]: once'cause I think we all should be involved in this and like I said, I brought this up. [4:08:16, 4:08:19]: Uh in twenty eighteen and it didn't go anywhere. [4:08:19, 4:08:24]: So but at this point I think we should uh work together. So everyone, and this is a collective event. [4:08:25, 4:08:45]: Well, I would tell you that uh on the same night, uh uh doing on the same night. I'll tell you in my community, Monar Village, where Ms. Gantt lives, we have an outstanding uh uh celebration per se. And a lot of people come through the neighborhood and I just help out in that process. But but uh if we're swinging on the s if this is approved, we're having the same night, then I have to deal with how I'm going to [4:08:45, 4:08:54]: support that I got to support the city in the process and figure out how I can support uh my own community, individual community. But I'll just deal with that internally. I'll make it work one way or the other. [4:08:54, 4:08:59]: But anyway, I just had to say that because I know we have a great event going on all every year, but regardless of that. [4:09:00, 4:09:09]: Any other calls? And I have little kids, and I can tell you right now that a tradition of being in your neighborhood, going to your neighbor's door-to-door means a lot to us. [4:09:10, 4:09:30]: So I I'm the I think I'm the only person on this council with young kids. And going into our subdivision in Monarch Village on October 31st, there's nothing like it. Um and I think that it's been that way. It's one of the reasons why I've stayed in the community that I'm in right now. Um, and so I think that [4:09:30, 4:09:32]: us having it on that day. [4:09:33, 4:09:40]: It could be a bit of a it we're changing the tradition of a lot. And yeah, people can go to both. [4:09:40, 4:09:51]: But you want when you spend money like that on the city and you have an event like that, you want it to last. You want people to stay to the end like they did for my event this year. [4:09:53, 4:10:02]: Well, I'm I'm prepared as I said to make a motion to have it be on the thirty first, to be downtown for Martin Luther King. [4:10:02, 4:10:04]: Uh senior heritage. [4:10:04, 4:10:09]: Uh if you certainly uh aren't don't want to move your event, you don't have to because you can have it. [4:10:10, 4:10:14]: And we could have two. But I I I I certainly would encourage you to [4:10:14, 4:10:32]: work with us so all of us can be involved and do uh what we needed to do. In that instance, I'd like to make a motion to move forward uh with this event as I've described it, an event of Halloween Carnival downtown Stockbridge on MRK Senior Heritage on October the 31st. [4:10:32, 4:10:36]: Which would involve trunk or treat, which would involve the scary house. [4:10:36, 4:10:39]: uh the traditional things uh with a Halloween carnival. [4:10:40, 4:10:42]: And I will let uh the staff [4:10:43, 4:10:49]: whether that be events or main street, come up with um what needs to be done in order to [4:10:49, 4:10:53]: uh make this happen and uh as we've already indicated a [4:10:54, 4:11:02]: An event of this magnitude would be about$10,000 with additional funding. So that would be uh what I would suggest on in my motion. Thank you. [4:11:03, 4:11:04]: Is there a second to the motion? [4:11:08, 4:11:14]: Is there a second? Okay, Mr. Thomas, second that motion. Any further. I do have a comment. [4:11:15, 4:11:16]: L [4:11:17, 4:11:18]: All right, Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [4:11:19, 4:11:26]: My comment is, um, and I absolutely understand uh Councilwoman Gantt and Mark Village um [4:11:27, 4:11:28]: On Halloween Day is pretty big. [4:11:29, 4:11:31]: It's been that way for years. [4:11:31, 4:11:34]: But not all subdivisions in the city. [4:11:35, 4:11:37]: Have nine hundred homes. [4:11:37, 4:11:41]: We have smaller subdivisions and those residents. [4:11:41, 4:11:42]: They don't [4:11:44, 4:11:47]: They don't have such a big turnout like Monarch Village. [4:11:48, 4:11:49]: So I think having um [4:11:50, 4:11:51]: A city. [4:11:51, 4:11:52]: Halloween event. [4:11:53, 4:11:54]: Would be beneficial. [4:11:54, 4:11:56]: For the entire city. [4:11:57, 4:11:59]: um for those smaller subdivisions. [4:12:00, 4:12:02]: And of course for Monarch Village as well. [4:12:03, 4:12:05]: Um so I support it. [4:12:06, 4:12:07]: I do. [4:12:07, 4:12:09]: Okay, stand by. Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. [4:12:10, 4:12:11]: Yeah, um [4:12:12, 4:12:17]: I like the concept of bringing these entities into downtown. [4:12:17, 4:12:21]: uh to to to boost you know the the economy [4:12:21, 4:12:23]: And and to show other [4:12:23, 4:12:28]: uh business owners about what we're trying to bring into into the downtown. [4:12:29, 4:12:32]: Uh I do understand about the uh the dates. [4:12:33, 4:12:36]: You know, that would only be my only concern with that, but [4:12:36, 4:12:42]: But I think though, and I could I could picture this being a great, great, great event. [4:12:42, 4:12:49]: especially if it's a city event and everyone is behind it, I can see this being really, really great. [4:12:49, 4:12:53]: And I think it would give um a boost. [4:12:53, 4:12:56]: uh to downtown and as you mentioned uh mayor pro tem [4:12:57, 4:13:01]: Hopefully the uh the welcome center will be um open. [4:13:02, 4:13:15]: Um I know it's gonna take a while for Mr. Zavain, uh if he if he does anything and maybe some of those uh other businesses in that area uh will begin to uh materialize and then as years go. [4:13:16, 4:13:17]: Uh even on the um [4:13:18, 4:13:19]: You know, on the other side. [4:13:19, 4:13:26]: um you know pumping a little juice into downtown but so i i i support that and i do like the concept [4:13:27, 4:13:27]: Um [4:13:28, 4:13:37]: You know, um yeah, you you propose a date and I guess I can go along with that, but I like the idea of bringing everything that we can uh in in the downtown area. [4:13:39, 4:13:40]: Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [4:13:41, 4:13:43]: Mirror on um Halloween. [4:13:44, 4:13:48]: Along with global impact Christian Management, you got about seventeen churches. [4:13:48, 4:13:52]: in that area that are having Halloween events. [4:13:52, 4:14:01]: Um, and beside the church besides the churches having Halloween events, you have people that are sponsoring events for Halloween. [4:14:02, 4:14:05]: And so having any one community lacking [4:14:06, 4:14:12]: in a Halloween event that's not existence in the city uh stockbridge. [4:14:12, 4:14:19]: Uh but I I would say, and I guess it don't matter at this point, that I would caution council members that we do plan events. [4:14:20, 4:14:33]: uh city events like this just out of the blue that would uh be so close to another council member's event, whether whoever it is on this council. There's a I think that there's a respect level right there. [4:14:34, 4:14:50]: You know, I I I wouldn't plan a bike a bike ride on a on a councilman Alexander's trail, uh with the stuff that he does at the park. You know, that's in respect to his uh initiative and his event. You want everything to be as successful as possible. Uh [4:14:50, 4:14:53]: And to to to lay out an option. [4:14:53, 4:14:59]: Rather we do it because we have the power to do it or either you join us or we're gonna do it anyway. [4:14:59, 4:15:02]: When it comes to a council any council member on here. [4:15:03, 4:15:06]: Uh because you have the right to do something, don't mean it's the right thing to do. [4:15:06, 4:15:10]: And I think they were to respect each each other's uh initiatives. [4:15:10, 4:15:13]: That's one thing, but when it comes to Halloween. [4:15:13, 4:15:22]: Nobody in the city limits of Stockbridge are lacking in those areas with so many trunk or treats going on. So many churches are being involved. [4:15:22, 4:15:26]: And then to be competitive with another council member's event. [4:15:26, 4:15:30]: Um, regardless of who it is, either one of us, I just think is wrong. [4:15:32, 4:15:33]: Ms. Barber, back to you. [4:15:34, 4:15:40]: Yeah, um so I thought the whole purpose of the council was to do things to attract [4:15:41, 4:15:43]: citizens to our downtown. [4:15:43, 4:15:45]: What better days to do it than [4:15:46, 4:15:48]: Holidays and special events. [4:15:49, 4:15:59]: Even with um this past Halloween, I know the youth council, they had a fall festival, was it before Councilwoman Gance or after hers? [4:16:00, 4:16:01]: There were [4:16:01, 4:16:02]: A week or two apart. [4:16:03, 4:16:06]: But I thought that our whole goal and focus [4:16:07, 4:16:12]: Was to find creative ways to attract people to our downtown. [4:16:12, 4:16:15]: Is that not what our mission and goal is? [4:16:16, 4:16:17]: So why not do it? [4:16:18, 4:16:19]: On Halloween. [4:16:20, 4:16:22]: Mayor. [4:16:22, 4:16:24]: Not everybody lives in [4:16:25, 4:16:30]: a large subdivision like a monarch village that is known to have these events. [4:16:30, 4:16:33]: This is not about a council initiative for me. [4:16:33, 4:16:35]: It is about the best interest. [4:16:36, 4:16:38]: other people and what we're trying to do here. [4:16:40, 4:16:40]: That's all. [4:16:41, 4:16:53]: Mayor, people like politics. Mayor people come from uh from the Kingdom. Okay, hold hold on. The question is we we we do have a we do have a budget. [4:16:53, 4:16:55]: For a Main Street division. [4:16:55, 4:16:59]: to dictate to to tell us what they the events they want to have downtown. [4:16:59, 4:17:03]: And this is an initiative brought by brought forward by the council. [4:17:03, 4:17:09]: not by main street it brought forward by the counts of the colleagues of another colleague that's having an event. [4:17:10, 4:17:10]: So [4:17:11, 4:17:12]: To justify your actions. [4:17:13, 4:17:16]: You can do anything if you got a reason to justify your actions. [4:17:16, 4:17:21]: I'm not gonna argue that point. You go right ahead and do what you guys wanna do. I'm just saying for me. [4:17:22, 4:17:27]: You know, this is something you all this council is promoting downtown, not Main Street. [4:17:27, 4:17:30]: that are getting paid to do it. It's you all doing it. [4:17:32, 4:17:33]: All right, Ms. Gantt, go ahead, please. [4:17:34, 4:17:36]: We'll make this last comment. We'll make a vote. [4:17:36, 4:17:43]: Thank you. So Monarch Village has visitors from all over. People come from the Cab County. They come from all over on. [4:17:43, 4:17:46]: Halloween day, Halloween night, [4:17:46, 4:17:50]: Um the church have event they have their trunk and tree trunk or trees. [4:17:50, 4:17:51]: And I uh [4:17:51, 4:17:56]: for the respect that I was give to the other council members. I'm not happy with that. [4:17:56, 4:18:01]: Um I could do toy drives and bike drives and all the other drives during Christmas. [4:18:02, 4:18:07]: Um, but I bear off and not do those things because I don't want to be accomplished. [4:18:08, 4:18:10]: with another council. [4:18:10, 4:18:14]: We already have these I have the a file. [4:18:14, 4:18:22]: And you're basically saying, Well, you either come with us or we're just gonna do it. That's why again, you're kinda faded. We can't hear you. [4:18:23, 4:18:26]: I'm sorry. Oh, yeah. I said I have a [4:18:27, 4:18:28]: Can you hear me? [4:18:29, 4:18:49]: Yeah, we hear you now. Go ahead. Okay. That you did you hear me when I said that people come from all over and go to trick-or-treat in Marnark Village? It's not just Marnark Village community. It's the other subdivisions, those smaller subdivisions in Stockbridge, they still come to Marnark Village. My daughter's her friends, they might live in other AVM forests, you name [4:18:49, 4:18:57]: And they come and they meet up, and everybody goes to Marnart Village on October 31st. That's number one. Number two, [4:18:58, 4:19:01]: When it comes to uh Christmas event, um [4:19:03, 4:19:10]: Let's say um Mayor Potem Alexander does a toy drive or anything of that sort. [4:19:10, 4:19:30]: I don't do the same thing even if I could, because it's in conflict. I d we already have an event. You already know what's going on. And until that person, kind of like the food trucks um or sounds of summer concert or anything else, when it got way too big, we moved it to a city event. Councilman Blount had back. [4:19:30, 4:19:31]: to school. [4:19:32, 4:19:52]: He moved it to a city event. Right now, this is my first one. I don't mind moving it. I do have a problem with October 31st. Um, for if we're gonna do it jointly, I would have a problem with that. But I also have a problem with not getting the common courtesy of asking whether or not we could do it. [4:19:52, 4:20:02]: in this manner because in the past, even with Councilman Blount's event and everyone else is like, well, will y'all please let's make this a city event. That didn't take place. [4:20:02, 4:20:09]: This is just, hey, let's do it this way. We can have two fall festival events, but I don't think that is necessary. [4:20:09, 4:20:29]: Um right now I have a the same DJ, we have other um activities, and I'm not here to say that the budget will not be the same or less or bigger or or whatever the case may be. Um, or we have more sponsors, but I just think that. [4:20:29, 4:20:32]: You know I have an event and all of a sudden [4:20:33, 4:20:44]: Um, you know, regardless of the way we vote or the way things seem or our different differences, uh as a matter of respect, you already know I have an event. And then you want to put it. [4:20:45, 4:20:49]: on the same day or day well now you want to put it on Halloween [4:20:49, 4:20:52]: an event very similar to what I already have. [4:20:53, 4:20:55]: And so I just asked that you don't do that. [4:20:56, 4:21:06]: I mean, if we can come up with it later, fine if we agree to do some type of fall event, so be it. But right now, I've already planned, I've already reserved. [4:21:07, 4:21:08]: for that event. [4:21:10, 4:21:30]: All right. I will tell you stand by stand by please. I would tell you, Ms. Gantt that what Mayor Pro Temp said earlier that he approached us uh back in 2018 with this concept and it didn't take over then. So I guess it's not the first time that obviously not the first time you brought it forward. No, it's not. So in this aspect. But anyway, I'm just I'm just recalling. [4:21:30, 4:21:50]: What he said earlier, just trying to pay attention. Listen, Miss Barber, you have to stand by. You got to stand by now. Go ahead, Mayor Protem. We need to wind this down, but go ahead, Mayor Pro Tam. Now I guess you want to respond to her message. Yeah, uh, you said exactly what I was going to say. This is not the first time. And then in 2018, Ms. Gale was against it. That's why we didn't move forward. So we're moving forward together this time. [4:21:50, 4:21:51]: Yeah. [4:21:51, 4:22:04]: I would never be against the ball festival. I'm pretty sure you can see a record on that. Never would I be against any kind of festival or any activity for children. And I can I I don't even have to even look at the record for that one. [4:22:04, 4:22:05]: All right. [4:22:05, 4:22:07]: Good. If that was the case. All right. [4:22:08, 4:22:14]: All right, now listen, Miss Barber, if you Miss Barber, if you want to say something, we'll do that and then we're gonna take a vote so we can get move on. [4:22:14, 4:22:22]: Okay, I just wanted clarity. So um Councilwoman Gantt, what day is your council initiative to take place? [4:22:23, 4:22:29]: It will be the I'm thinking it will be on that Saturday and I don't have if is is Nobia on here. [4:22:29, 4:22:33]: No, she's not, no. Okay. I think it's on that scene. [4:22:33, 4:22:34]: It's not. [4:22:35, 4:22:36]: I'm sorry. [4:22:36, 4:22:39]: your council initiative is not on Halloween. [4:22:39, 4:22:59]: Oh no, I wouldn't put anything on I wouldn't recommend anybody put anything on Halloween. The problem I have is that we're going after the same event. So when we're adding trunk retreat next year, we're gonna be doing the same thing. We we've already planned to do as part of it to get some of the stores involved in downtown. We've already [4:22:59, 4:23:14]: already plan to get some, you know, ask for certain sponsorships and we'll be going after the same thing and doing the same activity. So we'll be bumping heads during the same month, going after the same people. And there's been a complaint about that in the past. [4:23:14, 4:23:30]: where stores get tired because we're asking the same people over and over again to help us with certain things. And here we are having two of the same events. It just happens to be one is a counseling initiative and then one wants to be voted on upon as the city of Stockbridge. That's all. [4:23:31, 4:23:37]: All right. All right. We'd have we have plenty of discussion. So the motion's been made. It's been seconded. So all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [4:23:39, 4:23:47]: One, two, three. All right. And so Ms. Gann, I would say you're against the motion. I will assume Ms. Gann or you're abstaining. [4:23:48, 4:23:53]: I'm against the motion of having it on Halloween, especially. All right, Mr. Blount. [4:23:54, 4:24:00]: I'm against all right. So it is vote motion passed three two. All right. Mayor. [4:24:00, 4:24:05]: Yes, ma'am. Just for clarification, this is a separate event, correct? It's not going to be merged. [4:24:06, 4:24:11]: No, it won't be no, no, it's just a separate motion was a separate event, city events, what it was. Thank you. All right. [4:24:13, 4:24:20]: All right, I have on this list Streetlight program in collaboration with Henry County for expressway exit and commercial corridors. [4:24:22, 4:24:23]: Yes, Miss Ms. Barber. [4:24:24, 4:24:30]: But yes, Ms. Bob. Earlier when we were still discussing the budget, I still had at least [4:24:31, 4:24:33]: Two items to consider. [4:24:33, 4:24:37]: Okay. We're not we'll we'll we'll get your two items. [4:24:38, 4:24:39]: Uh you you will get your two items. [4:24:43, 4:24:47]: Are we still discussing the budget? Yeah, we're still talking about the budget. [4:24:49, 4:24:52]: All right, I'll tell you what, I'll relinquish that. [4:24:52, 4:24:54]: What's your item what's your next item? Go ahead. [4:24:54, 4:25:03]: Okay, so um at our last the second reading, um Chief Tramer spoke about um the gap in [4:25:04, 4:25:09]: Here County services, police services from January to June. [4:25:11, 4:25:13]: Mr. Wiggins, do you account for that time period? [4:25:14, 4:25:16]: In which Henry County Police Services [4:25:18, 4:25:19]: We'll continue. [4:25:20, 4:25:21]: in the twenty twenty two budget. [4:25:24, 4:25:29]: I have to refer to cheap. I think that's part of the seven hundred thousand that we put in there. [4:25:29, 4:25:31]: Oh, okay. So you did add it. [4:25:32, 4:25:37]: Um I um think so we might need to add Chief to make just to just to confirm. Is he on the line, Chief Tramer? [4:25:37, 4:25:39]: Yes he is. He just unmuted. Go ahead, Chief. [4:25:40, 4:25:46]: Yeah, I'm trying to get my camera to work. I'm sorry something's happening here, but uh no, I that wasn't included. The uh [4:25:46, 4:25:48]: Additional monies was [4:25:49, 4:25:55]: to fund the police department from June for Stockbridge police officers from June through the end of the year. [4:25:55, 4:26:03]: To allow for the onboarding of uh a few more people prior to our rollout date, uh as as it relates to implementation team members. [4:26:04, 4:26:12]: So that three hundred thousand dollars for police services for Henry County was not part of that three point three. So if we wanted to continue with services at the same level. [4:26:13, 4:26:13]: They [4:26:13, 4:26:18]: has been provided in the past, we would need to add three hundred thousand to the budget to [4:26:18, 4:26:26]: uh fund that from January until July when our and I have the amount of two hundred and eighty eight thousand. [4:26:28, 4:26:29]: Cheap trainer. [4:26:30, 4:26:32]: Two hundred and eighty eight thousand. [4:26:32, 4:26:36]: Yes, for Henry County PD from January to July. [4:26:39, 4:26:40]: How did you know what it? [4:26:40, 4:26:43]: Yeah, I I think and I I think that they're [4:26:44, 4:26:50]: I'd have to I'd have to pull that up. It was somewhere around there, uh Councilwoman Barber, two eighty eight to three hundred thousand dollars to [4:26:51, 4:26:52]: uh funding. [4:26:52, 4:27:00]: Okay. I I could pull up specifically. I'd have to go back. I'm trying to find through some files here, so give me just a moment. Okay. I just wanted to make it [4:27:01, 4:27:04]: In that process, I thought that um [4:27:04, 4:27:24]: They're they're gonna start with uh releasing. Maybe that's what I'm thinking about the building. I thought that maybe come f uh February, March that they would no longer be in the building, which made made me think that there will be no longer really policing, that we will be we will be wrapping up and I know we full full information that in first of July, but I thought during the course of the late [4:27:24, 4:27:28]: winter into the spring we'll be starting to take control of some of this. [4:27:28, 4:27:41]: I guess maybe I'm mistaken in this case now. I wasn't aware that we were paying anything because Buddy Welch told us that, you know, we went to that agreement where they had to defend the city like they were defending any other unincorporated areas. [4:27:41, 4:27:42]: Right. [4:27:42, 4:27:50]: Well that's true too. Could we still pay taxes in that aspect? This this this if I if I could state here, this is for supplemental services. So [4:27:50, 4:27:56]: The city has been paying for the last 10 years for a supplemental business and park patrol. [4:27:56, 4:27:59]: where Henry County provides three officers seven days a week. [4:28:00, 4:28:06]: to patrol uh the business district and park. We we we we haven't been getting that. So [4:28:06, 4:28:18]: Nobody here honestly believes that we've actually been getting that. I think we've just been subsidizing, but I don't believe anybody here thinks that those anybody ever seen those two offices in the park? [4:28:18, 4:28:23]: Stand stand by a second. But Chief, if Chief, actually if um [4:28:24, 4:28:36]: I mean if it's if that's the supplemental piece then I would think as we as we get our individuals lined up, couldn't we not do that ourselves? I mean, uh as we kind of ramp up the full full capability here. [4:28:37, 4:28:43]: Yeah, we wouldn't be in a position to start absorbing any patrol function until July. [4:28:44, 4:28:50]: We wouldn't be bringing our patrol officers on board until June and from June to July we would be training them. [4:28:50, 4:28:55]: Ін поліси, просиджу, і а метод з операції со. [4:28:55, 4:29:00]: in terms of us taking over actual patrol duties, we would not be in a position to do that until July. [4:29:00, 4:29:02]: Unless we wanted to [4:29:02, 4:29:09]: put those funds on the front end and we could bring officers on board sooner. We could bring a contingent of officers to be able [4:29:09, 4:29:18]: To uh provide some of those services. But again, that would be contingent on us having the ability to have them outfitted and equipped to be able to. [4:29:18, 4:29:24]: uh to take over those responsibilities, such as having police vehicles that are fully outfitted and equipped. [4:29:25, 4:29:29]: uniform, so on and so forth, so that they could uh absorb those responsibilities. [4:29:30, 4:29:33]: Now in addition to the park patrols, and I'll tell you I I did [4:29:35, 4:29:38]: go back through and um [4:29:39, 4:29:41]: looked at and had Mr. Wiggins provide me with [4:29:42, 4:29:48]: what we've been paying Henry County for supplemental services. And I did my own inquiry and investigation, reached out to [4:29:48, 4:29:54]: the uh individuals who are coordinating these supplemental assignments for the city. [4:29:54, 4:30:05]: And uh with the park patrol and business patrol again, that's something that's been happening for the last 10 years. Lieutenant Powell with Henry County Petey is the coordinator of that. And I had him provide me with activity sheets of his officers. [4:30:05, 4:30:10]: uh that outlined what they're doing during those time periods. So he's [4:30:11, 4:30:17]: uh provided me with that for the last month and has continued to do that when he submits his uh payroll request to the city. [4:30:17, 4:30:23]: We also have officers that provide security at city council meetings. We have officers that we contract with. [4:30:24, 4:30:34]: to handle uh municipal court services. Obviously uh with the amphitheater, we will continue to have to pay Henry County until we're in a position, especially with concerts starting in March. [4:30:34, 4:30:37]: To be able to provide off duty uh services. [4:30:37, 4:30:42]: I think the officer at City Hall every day that's something uh we have discussed. [4:30:43, 4:30:56]: uh reevaluating. Uh Mayor Ford, you and I had conversation about that. Um and that may not be something that's necessary, but currently uh we have an officer staffed at City Hall from Henry County from 8 a.m. until 5 p.m. uh [4:30:56, 4:30:58]: all days that the city buildings are open. [4:30:59, 4:31:13]: So when you take into account all of those additional supplemental services that are provided by the county and we want to continue those in any form or fashion, some of those which I believe we will have to, uh not that I believe I know but we'll have to as it relates to municipal court. [4:31:13, 4:31:18]: uh especially and uh the amphitheatre so you know that that [4:31:18, 4:31:28]: that funding can decrease if we decide to eliminate certain services that we're currently paying for. But if we're to continue moving forward in the same [4:31:29, 4:31:37]: with the same services that we're receiving, it would require us adding three thousand dollars three hundred thousand or close to three hundred thousand rather. [4:31:37, 4:31:40]: to the budget to be able to continue to provide those services. Uh [4:31:40, 4:31:41]: Through Henry County. [4:31:43, 4:31:44]: For for six months. [4:31:45, 4:31:47]: For six months, that's correct. Okay. [4:31:48, 4:31:51]: All right. And uh let me ask this question, Mayor. [4:31:52, 4:31:53]: Sure, go ahead. [4:31:53, 4:31:58]: So or is that it that certainly should be eligible for funds, right? ARPA funds. [4:32:00, 4:32:03]: An existing public safety is expenditure. [4:32:05, 4:32:22]: Yeah, it sounded like it'd be it'd be it sounded like it should uh work with no problem. Um it should fit this uh fit that uh that mode. I would say so it it it should be into the point that came up earlier today regarding uh the police budget. So currently it was estimated at three point three. [4:32:22, 4:32:24]: We move it up to three point six. [4:32:25, 4:32:37]: to allow for continuation of those services, we have to take into consideration. We'll be getting almost two million back, rollback taxes from the county, which leaves us to fund about$1.6 million. [4:32:37, 4:32:44]: Uh and we would decide I guess whether that's coming from general fund or ARPA funds wherever you all want to uh fund that. [4:32:44, 4:32:48]: Uh, if you decide not to continue with those services, we could probably reduce those costs. [4:32:48, 4:32:49]: Buy. [4:32:50, 4:32:56]: $150 to$200,000, I would estimate, if we just went with municipal court and amphitheater security. [4:32:56, 4:33:01]: Which would require us not to need as much funding, but it again that would be based on the wishes um [4:33:02, 4:33:05]: uh the council regarding what services they want to continue with the county. [4:33:06, 4:33:10]: Well, I I would suggest that we continue at the same level and use the [4:33:11, 4:33:16]: ARPA fund because they're a fellow. There's a lot of stuff going on now. Now's not the time for any [4:33:16, 4:33:18]: Considering any cuts in any services. [4:33:18, 4:33:20]: Oh, public safety, so [4:33:20, 4:33:24]: I would be supportive. It's not up to me, but I would be supportive of continuing [4:33:25, 4:33:26]: uh funding at the same level. [4:33:27, 4:33:29]: And using uh supplemental [4:33:29, 4:33:33]: our Arbor funds to pay the Henry County forces to continue to do what they're doing. [4:33:34, 4:33:36]: Or three hundred thousand dollars is what we're talking about. Right. [4:33:38, 4:33:42]: Six months. Okay. Are any other comments, concerns? [4:33:46, 4:33:48]: All right, is there a motion then in a sense? [4:33:48, 4:33:49]: Almost. [4:33:50, 4:33:52]: Sophia. Okay. [4:33:53, 4:33:54]: And uh [4:33:55, 4:33:59]: Stand by one second. I want to make sure something here. Miss Holiday. [4:34:00, 4:34:01]: Miss Holliday? [4:34:02, 4:34:07]: Yes, sir. I'm just trying to unmute. Did you understand the motion? Do you have it motioned down properly? [4:34:09, 4:34:23]: If and if you don't, I'll ask Mayor Pro Tem to no ac I ask May actually Mayor Potem, could you No I that's why I was Councilman Barber. Oh I'm sorry I'm sorry, Miss Barber. When you let me talk. [4:34:24, 4:34:28]: Go ahead. I'm sorry. Go ahead. I want to make sure Mr. Bolly has this down properly. [4:34:28, 4:34:35]: So I I asked if we could make sure in the budget that we account for police services. [4:34:35, 4:34:37]: Through Henry County. [4:34:37, 4:34:38]: From [4:34:39, 4:34:40]: January? [4:34:40, 4:34:42]: Through July. [4:34:42, 4:34:42]: What? [4:34:43, 4:34:44]: January through July. [4:34:45, 4:34:49]: in the amount of three hundred thousand dollars. [4:34:50, 4:34:53]: Can you specify ARPA funds can be used for that? [4:34:54, 4:34:55]: Arbuf thoughts. [4:34:55, 4:34:57]: May also be used for this. [4:34:57, 4:34:58]: Second. [4:35:00, 4:35:02]: This holiday you have that now? [4:35:02, 4:35:04]: I have that. Um [4:35:04, 4:35:07]: I just had a question about it, but what's your question? [4:35:08, 4:35:10]: My question was I thought that [4:35:11, 4:35:12]: You all [4:35:12, 4:35:13]: Actually [4:35:14, 4:35:19]: motion for this in a previous meeting because the original budget that was presented. [4:35:19, 4:35:22]: was seventeen point four million dollars. [4:35:22, 4:35:27]: And it the budget presented tonight was eight uh eighteen point two. [4:35:29, 4:35:30]: Okay, which is the eight hundred. [4:35:31, 4:35:33]: Do you recall Councilwoman Barber? [4:35:33, 4:35:39]: Yes, and Ms. uh Chief Tramor actually presented that at our last meeting. [4:35:40, 4:35:42]: That is why I asked Mr. Wiggins. [4:35:43, 4:35:44]: Did you include? [4:35:45, 4:35:46]: Um that amount. [4:35:47, 4:35:49]: Да Чеф Траймер меншу. [4:35:49, 4:35:54]: At our last meeting, it was for two hundred and eighty-eight thousand dollars, is what he had. [4:35:55, 4:35:57]: in this presentation. Is that included in this [4:35:58, 4:35:59]: Third reading. [4:36:00, 4:36:02]: And no, it's not. [4:36:04, 4:36:10]: It wasn't put in. Okay. All right. So what I had put in was seven hundred thousand. [4:36:12, 4:36:22]: Not the two not the not I didn't add the two hundred and eighty-eight with the seven hundred thousand for the plea. Okay. Um it's not for the clarification, uh John. [4:36:22, 4:36:30]: Ms. Holliday, was there indeed a vote at our last meeting to add this? Because I kind of remember that we did. [4:36:30, 4:36:31]: But I wasn't sure. [4:36:32, 4:36:40]: Well, Mr. Wiggins would have to deter mean would have to state why the original budget that was 17.4 is now 18.2, whether or not [4:36:42, 4:36:48]: I would have to go back to the record to look, but there was a reason it was changed from seventeen point four to eighteen point two. [4:36:48, 4:36:51]: To to to include that seven hundred thousand. [4:36:52, 4:36:54]: For the increase in the police department budget. [4:36:55, 4:36:58]: Which made it which w jumped it up to three point three. [4:37:00, 4:37:18]: And that, let me let me make sure I can re if I remember this right, John, is that that was for salaries for the new four officers from January to June. This 288 or the 300 that you're rounding it to is for. [4:37:18, 4:37:24]: The Henry County Police Services, correct? This is what we're clear now. [4:37:24, 4:37:25]: Great. Thank you. [4:37:26, 4:37:33]: That is that is why I think Chief Kramer said it's it hadn't been added. That is why I believe he said that. And he's he can hear this. Is that correct, Chief? [4:37:34, 4:37:40]: So that's we have it correct. Thank you. Okay, so that's correct. So otherwise it needs to we need to vote on this. This amount needs to be voted on. [4:37:41, 4:37:41]: Okay. [4:37:42, 4:37:50]: So yes, thank you, sir. Okay, the motion has been made by Ms. Barber, seconded by Mayor Pro Town. We've had enough discussion. All in favor of motion, please indicate. [4:37:51, 4:37:52]: One, two, three. [4:37:53, 4:37:55]: Okay, Miss Gantt, Miss Blount, Mr. Blount. [4:37:57, 4:37:58]: I'm staying, man. [4:37:58, 4:38:00]: Okay, Miss Dant. [4:38:02, 4:38:18]: Ms. Gantt I abstained. All right. So a three zero two motion pass. All right. Ms. Barber, you have something else? Yes, one more. Um, I had a uh idea. I'd like to see us do either a parade or fireworks on New Year's Eve. [4:38:18, 4:38:19]: Um [4:38:21, 4:38:22]: Yeah. [4:38:23, 4:38:27]: Yours okay. I want to make a motion um to add a season. [4:38:27, 4:38:32]: Talk about what it includes. Talk about the event a little bit so everybody knows. [4:38:32, 4:38:33]: What you want in it. [4:38:34, 4:38:36]: Yeah, talk about you want a parade, you want [4:38:37, 4:38:39]: Fireworks, you want what is it gonna look like? [4:38:40, 4:38:48]: Well, um of course we would leave that up to the event staff. Okay. Follow the plans, but um [4:38:49, 4:38:50]: Fireworks. [4:38:50, 4:38:58]: um if we are able to at the amphitheater. If not, then of course we can host it somewhere in the downtown area, MLK. [4:38:59, 4:39:03]: Um are trying to attract people to our downtown area. [4:39:04, 4:39:05]: Um [4:39:06, 4:39:07]: Uh [4:39:07, 4:39:11]: maybe on i don't know new year's eve is a good [4:39:12, 4:39:12]: Day. [4:39:12, 4:39:17]: It it would probably be a New Year's Eve, uh will probably be perfect. [4:39:18, 4:39:24]: Or we're gonna drop the ball, we're gonna count it down. That's a New Year's Eve concert. See, that's that that that works. [4:39:25, 4:39:44]: That's what I'm thinking of. Yes. People don't mind being you're outside. Do you see Times people be like, I want to have no c I hear us have this discussion all the time about well it's too cold. I see people in Times Square on New Year's Eve at a concert in 10 degrees. So they do that outside too. So yeah, yeah. [4:39:45, 4:39:45]: Yeah. [4:39:46, 4:39:47]: So that is my [4:39:48, 4:39:48]: Proposal. [4:39:49, 4:39:50]: What's the dollar amount? [4:39:50, 4:39:51]: Um [4:39:55, 4:39:58]: What did you have for Fourth of July? Was it or how [4:39:59, 4:40:04]: For Halloween we had ten thousand and fourth of July was extravaganza, we had fifty. [4:40:04, 4:40:06]: Okay, can we do ten thousand? [4:40:06, 4:40:08]: Just just to see [4:40:08, 4:40:15]: We won't do it um for New Year's of twenty twenty two, but we can certainly well. [4:40:15, 4:40:26]: This is twenty twenty two budget you're talking about. I know. Yeah, it's uh it's fun. Just go ahead and notice on trying to plan something. So I don't know. Maybe I need to hold this idea. [4:40:26, 4:40:29]: Um, for twenty twenty three budget. [4:40:30, 4:40:31]: It's up to you. [4:40:32, 4:40:38]: I'll wait until twenty twenty three budget because this is only two weeks, three weeks away. [4:40:38, 4:40:38]: No. [4:40:39, 4:40:45]: That's okay. No, no, we're not gonna have it this year. It'll be it would be twenty twenty two. It will be for the next year. [4:40:45, 4:40:50]: Um twenty twenty two. It would be in a twenty twenty two budget. [4:40:50, 4:40:53]: talking about the twenty twenty two budget. I'll withdraw. [4:40:54, 4:40:55]: Okay. [4:40:56, 4:40:56]: Uh Mr. Blount. [4:40:57, 4:40:58]: Mm. [4:40:58, 4:41:01]: It it may be a good idea to to let [4:41:02, 4:41:08]: Councilwoman Bar, Mr. Alexander and and uh Mr. Thomas get together and figure out what's the event plan they're gonna do. [4:41:09, 4:41:11]: Uh,'cause I it's gonna pass with him and [4:41:12, 4:41:17]: I mean that way we won't have to have discussion out front. They can decide what they're gonna do and go ahead and make it happen. [4:41:17, 4:41:23]: Uh I mean, you know, the nights getting old and then they say, Hey, let's do this and let's do the money and no, okay, I'll wait and I [4:41:24, 4:41:29]: Why don't they get just take a five minutes and get together and get a discussion going and figure out what they're gonna do? [4:41:29, 4:41:30]: All right. [4:41:30, 4:41:39]: So uh uh Ms. Barber, do you have anything else? Uh you had is that's your last uh last thing you wanted to add tonight or discuss? That was the o that was the last item to consider. [4:41:39, 4:41:58]: All right. Okay, go ahead. You you want you go ahead with the list? Yeah, we just want to go down the list, right? Go ahead, go ahead. The list that uh came out. So anyway, uh the down the list that that Mr. Uh Wiggins sent out there, Street Light program collaboration with Henry County for expressway exit and commercial corridors. [4:41:58, 4:42:05]: Yeah, I just think I don't think what we want to do is just have staff go to Henry County, get the information. [4:42:06, 4:42:09]: Uh as a collective group so we can have a consensus. [4:42:09, 4:42:10]: So we can [4:42:10, 4:42:14]: Put some street lights on highway one thirty eight so it's not black dark. [4:42:14, 4:42:16]: So we can have some lights, um [4:42:17, 4:42:21]: On uh Hudson Bridge and Eagles Landing Parkway, so it's not black, dark, Jodico. [4:42:22, 4:42:24]: And then the commercial areas uh in the city. [4:42:25, 4:42:31]: They already have some type of contract with Georgia Power, cause they put lights on Jonesboro Road. [4:42:31, 4:42:35]: They're beautiful. Citizens are crazy about it because it's too dark. [4:42:35, 4:42:38]: On our uh roadways and also um [4:42:39, 4:42:41]: You know, we have subdivisions. [4:42:41, 4:42:43]: uh as well which uh [4:42:43, 4:42:45]: You know, just like in my subdivision. [4:42:46, 4:42:50]: Uh, as we have here, these subdivision the requirement was really just [4:42:50, 4:42:51]: Um [4:42:51, 4:42:53]: Not enough in order to [4:42:53, 4:42:59]: have these subdivisions, uh have the appropriate amount of lighting as we move to look to move forward. [4:43:00, 4:43:01]: With increasing public safety. [4:43:01, 4:43:07]: Uh, we may need to go back and retrofit uh many of these subdivisions, not just mine, all of them. [4:43:07, 4:43:09]: Uh to increase lighting. [4:43:09, 4:43:12]: Uh in these areas because these lights are [4:43:12, 4:43:15]: two hundred feet apart and there they just really don't provide [4:43:16, 4:43:18]: Uh the cover that the the subdivisions and [4:43:19, 4:43:20]: the community needs, but [4:43:21, 4:43:24]: That's a part of what we need to do to test staff to. [4:43:24, 4:43:26]: Uh get this process moving so. [4:43:26, 4:43:34]: that we can we can light up this community and and and thieves don't feel like they can come here and hide under the cover of darkness. [4:43:35, 4:43:52]: So you're you're you're looking uh this is for so you don't have a cost factor about this uh at this point. Uh so your motion would be what exactly here? The motion is to charge staff with going to Henry County to work out a mutual agreement that we can [4:43:52, 4:44:04]: piggyback off of their agreement with Georgia Power to install street lights along major corridors, commercial corridors in the city and our expressway exits. [4:44:05, 4:44:06]: Okay. [4:44:06, 4:44:08]: Is there a second to the motion? [4:44:11, 4:44:13]: As I'm sorry, and as well as uh [4:44:13, 4:44:16]: uh working on uh retrofitting [4:44:16, 4:44:17]: uh subdivisions. [4:44:18, 4:44:21]: uh as well in the future to increase the amount of lighting that we have here. [4:44:23, 4:44:24]: Is there a dollar amount of sign? [4:44:25, 4:44:27]: He said he doesn't have one at this point. [4:44:27, 4:44:28]: Did I recall? [4:44:29, 4:44:32]: What do we have in the budget right now, Mr. Wiggins, for streetlighting? [4:44:34, 4:44:40]: And we what I would like to take is a uh recommend what what do we have in uh in there for street lighting right now? [4:44:42, 4:44:43]: We [4:44:43, 4:44:45]: We have uh let me see it's coming up. [4:44:51, 4:44:53]: Four hundred and thirty five thousand. [4:44:53, 4:44:54]: Please batch. [4:44:55, 4:44:58]: Okay, so four thirty five uh for the budget. [4:44:58, 4:45:15]: So I mean let me hear from the rest rest of the uh Ms. Let me hear from the rest of the council. Okay, one standby. Let me ask you 435, is that for what we pay for street lights right now? Is that what you're getting at? Or is that what we uh cause I'm I'm yeah, that that must be what for what we pay out. [4:45:15, 4:45:17]: On an annual basis, is that correct? [4:45:17, 4:45:22]: Yeah, that's the budget. That's the budget for the year coming up on what? [4:45:23, 4:45:26]: We budget for to pay all the street lights that we pay for. [4:45:26, 4:45:28]: Okay, I'm sorry. [4:45:28, 4:45:43]: Let's ask Mr. Aaron. He might have a number for us. Okay, so it has nothing to do with construction of new street lights or anything like that. So this is just actually the actual electricity that are utilized on the current street. Right. Right. The actual electricity that we pay for. [4:45:43, 4:45:48]: All right. Go ahead. I'm yeah, and I and I think Georgia Power really basically charges you for the electricity. They [4:45:49, 4:45:52]: work with you on the lighting. So Mr. Aaron might be able to tell us more about it. [4:45:53, 4:46:12]: Well,$435,000 is the number, but with Georgia Power, the city has their own lighting agreements. So if something is requested, you want additional lights and things of that nature, Georgia Power will prepare them for you. And they're typically done in a couple of ways. One way is you can pay an upfront cost. [4:46:13, 4:46:18]: Or you can not pay anything at all, but your monthly rate will be higher. [4:46:19, 4:46:21]: To sort of they cover their cost for [4:46:22, 4:46:24]: expending it and putting out the equipment. [4:46:25, 4:46:29]: So what would be your suggested dollar amount for us to put in the budget? [4:46:31, 4:46:35]: Well, you would it would be determined about how many lights you were talking about. [4:46:36, 4:46:40]: It is based on lights. So if you're talking about [4:46:40, 4:46:43]: Another two or three hundred lights. [4:46:43, 4:46:47]: Then you're probably talking about another hundred and fifty to two hundred thousand dollars. [4:46:49, 4:46:56]: Okay, so you're so you're saying it we're looking at about two hundred thousand dollars uh to put into the budget for these [4:46:56, 4:47:01]: But I wonder wow, that's not that's not daunting. So go ahead, Councilman Thomas. [4:47:01, 4:47:03]: I I want to add Mayor for [4:47:05, 4:47:06]: Oh yeah, quite, sir. [4:47:06, 4:47:07]: Okay, uh [4:47:08, 4:47:13]: I I want to ask going forward, you know, we we got the um [4:47:13, 4:47:17]: Bridges at Johtoco, we have the Eastern Lina Road Development. [4:47:17, 4:47:21]: Excuse me. So I I just want us to sort of just take a look at [4:47:22, 4:47:23]: Tentrally. [4:47:23, 4:47:28]: just in street lighting what what what is upcoming in the next couple of years. [4:47:29, 4:47:32]: So I just wanted to be a little mindful with that. [4:47:32, 4:47:33]: Um [4:47:35, 4:47:37]: Anyone having any comments on that? [4:47:38, 4:47:46]: I I I would it's gonna increase. I mean our uh revenues I mean excuse me our um amount we pay out is gonna increase anyway, but I I have no idea. [4:47:47, 4:47:58]: what the cost factor would be. So what I would recommend, uh Mayor Pro Tem, I know you you said the test staff to to get with Henry County. I would sort of just let let's do some research. [4:47:59, 4:48:01]: And and and come back because [4:48:01, 4:48:02]: Um [4:48:03, 4:48:06]: I think we got to look at the overall plan. [4:48:07, 4:48:09]: Especially for these for these developments. [4:48:10, 4:48:11]: Because I know um [4:48:12, 4:48:16]: Um Mr. Aaron, that was someone from my neighborhood called [4:48:16, 4:48:20]: Uh Mr. Aaron just the other day inquiring about street lights and so [4:48:21, 4:48:23]: Uh, we're hate for us to start a [4:48:23, 4:48:35]: you know, start looking at trying to give every subdivision, everybody a street light. But I do understand about getting off the uh the interstate. So why don't mayor pro ten, why don't we just have the staff to test? [4:48:36, 4:48:39]: uh with the county and and let's see what we come back with. [4:48:40, 4:48:46]: Well, I mean we we we uh we got if we do that, we're gonna have to have some money to actually pay for some of it. [4:48:46, 4:48:48]: 'Cause I know we want to do uh [4:48:48, 4:48:51]: You know, obviously we can't do all of it at one time, but I [4:48:52, 4:48:55]: Uh, what about putting a dollar on Mr. Aaron suggested that uh [4:48:56, 4:48:59]: We could do all of it for two hundred thousand dollars, but a portion of that [4:49:00, 4:49:03]: uh in the budget to do as uh the commercial [4:49:03, 4:49:08]: uh the expressway exits initially. So what would you think it would take to do that, Mr. [4:49:08, 4:49:11]: Well didn't he say it was uh already four hundred in? [4:49:12, 4:49:12]: Well that's [4:49:13, 4:49:24]: That four hundred thousand plus I think four thirty five, something like that is what we we we normally would pay for the existing uh lights. So that's that's on the expense side. Right. Yes, sir. Okay. [4:49:28, 4:49:28]: Well. [4:49:30, 4:49:44]: See, so if so that's all that's that's normal, that's commonplace right now. So if you want some additional more, you have to add something more to that or wait and and and get some type of um estimate from further research and then come back later. [4:49:44, 4:49:44]: One the other. [4:49:45, 4:49:53]: Well what about I'm saying doing it in phases? You are you okay with doing it in phases, councilman? Are we put some money some money in the budget now? [4:49:53, 4:50:00]: And and I'm thinking about annexation, even though we've been talking about annexing for years and years and years, I don't know when that's gonna. [4:50:00, 4:50:04]: Um, you know, come come in a come involved. [4:50:04, 4:50:05]: Um [4:50:07, 4:50:13]: Well, Mr. Aaron suggests that we could do the whole thing for two hundred thousand. We're at four what, you said four fifty? [4:50:15, 4:50:16]: Four thirty five. [4:50:17, 4:50:19]: Four thirty five. Uh [4:50:19, 4:50:32]: What if we bumped it up to just five right now? And then we're at five and that gives us an amount to do some of it. And then we'll we can come back and revisit it. But I don't want to put the whole thing in the budget. [4:50:32, 4:50:39]: It we were anticipating that we could put some of it in the budget now. I hate to put not to put anything in the budget right now. [4:50:41, 4:50:42]: Can I make a suggestion? [4:50:43, 4:50:44]: Yes, sir. Go ahead. [4:50:44, 4:50:56]: That we have our lighting representative with Georgia Power attend one of these meetings and she can give us a presentation on how they go about establishing the lighting and the cost to add additional lights. [4:50:58, 4:51:05]: So we'll have an idea and we can use it for budgetary purposes of how much would be needed to add additional lights. [4:51:06, 4:51:25]: I'm supportive of that, but in the end, we're still gonna need some money to pay for some lights. I'm okay. I wanna make sure let me get this straight. I wanna do the research. I wanna have the people come in, talk to us. I want you to talk to Georgia Power, but we're doing the budget now. We gotta have some anticipation funds. [4:51:25, 4:51:33]: in there to help pay for this. You your your initial estimate is 200,000. I'm not suggesting we do all of that, but to have some money in there. [4:51:34, 4:51:37]: Well uh go ahead, sir. [4:51:37, 4:51:43]: Mayor, uh Mayor Pro Temps, this this is this is what I'm sort of looking at, and I really didn't want to get into this. [4:51:43, 4:51:46]: Uh there are some other expenses that [4:51:47, 4:51:50]: Um, I really want to talk about I'm not going to talk about them tonight. [4:51:50, 4:51:53]: Um, but you know, there are some other things. [4:51:54, 4:52:00]: uh that we need to consider and I have to have a conversation with you and the council as well, but [4:52:00, 4:52:07]: There are some other things. Uh I've I'm I'm okay with the things that we have approved tonight for this budget. [4:52:07, 4:52:11]: Um there are some other cost factors that's [4:52:11, 4:52:17]: We've have discussed them already, but I don't think we're mindful of those things that's that's coming up. [4:52:18, 4:52:19]: And if you recall [4:52:19, 4:52:22]: The last executive session that we had. [4:52:22, 4:52:23]: Um [4:52:23, 4:52:25]: Some things came to our attention. [4:52:26, 4:52:27]: Let's be mindful. [4:52:28, 4:52:30]: Of of where we gotta go. [4:52:30, 4:52:31]: Um [4:52:31, 4:52:40]: So I would suggest Mayor Pro Tem, and we can talk about this later, cause we can always come back to budget amendments, but let's just test staff to do the research. [4:52:40, 4:52:43]: And um but I just want to remind council that [4:52:44, 4:52:49]: Just go back to the last executive session. Some things came to us. So um [4:52:51, 4:52:53]: Let me just let me just stop it there. [4:52:55, 4:52:55]: All right. [4:52:56, 4:52:59]: So anyway, uh any more discussion on this issue. [4:53:00, 4:53:01]: Yes, ma Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [4:53:05, 4:53:13]: Okay, yeah, so um Lakeside. Residents of Lakeside are in the process of reference to Ms. Mayor Pro Tem. [4:53:14, 4:53:15]: This is a reference. [4:53:17, 4:53:21]: Miss Barber, what you talking about? Is that in reference to Mareportam and the lights that you you that he's talking about? [4:53:23, 4:53:23]: Yes. [4:53:23, 4:53:26]: Okay. All right. Go ahead. I'm sorry. Go ahead. [4:53:27, 4:53:40]: The residents of Lakeside have already started circulating a petition for additional item um lighting. It's my understanding, those residents came before the council prior to me. [4:53:40, 4:53:42]: um requesting. [4:53:42, 4:53:45]: additional lighting in the subdivision. [4:53:45, 4:53:47]: I am a resident of Lakeside. [4:53:47, 4:53:49]: It is inadequate lighting. [4:53:49, 4:53:50]: Mr. Aaron. [4:53:50, 4:53:52]: And Mr. Knight and Bowls. [4:53:52, 4:53:55]: Came to the subdivision last year. [4:53:55, 4:53:58]: And he may have made a second visit here this year. [4:53:59, 4:54:02]: The lights that are currently here are very dim. [4:54:02, 4:54:04]: So this proposal from [4:54:04, 4:54:11]: um mayor pro tem alexander to implement a um a lighting program that will roll out [4:54:12, 4:54:14]: It is exactly what we need here. [4:54:15, 4:54:23]: There are safety concerns here. So absolutely. I anticipate the petition from the residents here are going to come forward to the council. [4:54:24, 4:54:27]: for review and approval. So we want to make sure that we do have [4:54:27, 4:54:28]: Money in a budget. [4:54:29, 4:54:31]: that will cover. [4:54:31, 4:54:34]: the additional lighting that are needed here. [4:54:34, 4:54:35]: Um [4:54:35, 4:54:38]: Some information from Mr. Aaron was sent to me. [4:54:39, 4:54:45]: um earlier this afternoon in regards to that lighting and I forward it to Mr. Wiggins. [4:54:45, 4:54:47]: I don't know what the cost is gonna be. [4:54:47, 4:54:47]: Um [4:54:48, 4:54:49]: No idea. [4:54:50, 4:54:50]: So [4:54:51, 4:54:54]: We definitely need to add additional funds. [4:54:55, 4:54:59]: to the street lights budget. I just don't know how much. [4:54:59, 4:55:01]: Mr Aaron [4:55:02, 4:55:04]: Can you give a suggested amount? [4:55:05, 4:55:13]: based on what you saw here in lakeside for us. So we can consider adding it to this budget for next year. [4:55:16, 4:55:25]: feel it depends on what is wanted to be what wants to be done, what mayor and council want to do as far as lighting. [4:55:25, 4:55:38]: Because it's it depends on the style of lighting. The lights on the interstate would be a higher cost than the subdivision lights. So we'd have to look at what areas you're talking about adding lights to. [4:55:39, 4:55:41]: Because that determines your cost. [4:55:42, 4:55:48]: Okay, well I was speaking specifically about Lakeside since you made a couple of visits here. Are you able to share? [4:55:49, 4:55:50]: A little bit [4:55:50, 4:55:55]: The only thing is they're not specific. The bills are not [4:55:56, 4:55:59]: Identify per subdivision or per location. [4:55:59, 4:56:07]: So that would be a trade-off. You're going from a lower watt above, I think those are seventy-four watt LEDs up to a hundred and [4:56:08, 4:56:20]: 76 watt LED. So there'll be a difference in cost. I know the annual cost for those 16 would be a little over 11,000. I don't know what the current amount is for the 16. [4:56:21, 4:56:38]: seven to four watt light fixtures that are in your subdivision, we'd have to find a way to to break that out and get the cost to see what the difference. It might be a 25% increase or 35% increase, but we'd have to get that information from Georgia Power, what they bill us for the Lakeside subdivision. [4:56:39, 4:56:44]: Okay, so we definitely need to add additional funding to our 2022 budget. [4:56:45, 4:56:51]: um for the replacement of the lights here in lakeside. I don't know how much additional that's going to be. [4:56:52, 4:56:52]: Um [4:56:53, 4:56:53]: Can [4:56:55, 4:56:58]: Can you give an estimate, Mr. Aaron? [4:56:58, 4:57:06]: I would say just add a hundred thousand dollars that'll get us started this year and hundred thousand dollars that would just cover lakeside. [4:57:06, 4:57:15]: No, to get us to get it get us started. That would be a good start for us. Some additional light, and then we have George Power come and give a presentation. [4:57:15, 4:57:17]: about how we go about implementing [4:57:17, 4:57:20]: It in a most cost effective manner. [4:57:20, 4:57:22]: to increase the lighting. [4:57:25, 4:57:27]: Starting. Okay. [4:57:27, 4:57:28]: Okay. [4:57:28, 4:57:28]: Oh bad. [4:57:29, 4:57:31]: Mr. Thomas Gray, please. Give us an amount. [4:57:32, 4:57:37]: Council, uh I I'm you know, I'm I'm I'm pretty straight on on on you know what I vote for and [4:57:38, 4:57:40]: You know, uh again. [4:57:40, 4:57:45]: Um we have a special call meeting coming up on Wednesday. Let me just throw that out there. [4:57:47, 4:57:51]: Trust me, my can you know, there are some things that's looming. [4:57:52, 4:57:53]: Um [4:57:53, 4:57:59]: I'm not prepared tonight to vote. I would be in favor of the research, but I I would not vote on this tonight. [4:58:01, 4:58:01]: Okay. [4:58:02, 4:58:02]: All right. [4:58:03, 4:58:07]: Yeah, Mr. Black's quick one. I I'll tell you what, I'm gonna go ahead and make a motion. [4:58:07, 4:58:10]: And uh I'm gonna make the motion to [4:58:10, 4:58:15]: Uh bring this back uh within the next thirty days with the research being done. [4:58:16, 4:58:23]: And at that point, we'll have doc we'll have d numbers or dollars in front of us to be able to make an appropriate decision. [4:58:24, 4:58:38]: to give the citizens the street lighting that they have been demanding. So let's say in 30 days we do the research and then have them come back to us. And at that point the council will be have to be prepared to make a decision in the next 30 days. [4:58:39, 4:58:41]: Okay, yeah, yeah. [4:58:42, 4:58:58]: On that note that our thirty days roughly is our next counts a council meeting which will be January tenth, which is actually the meeting, uh ceremonial type of meeting is what it amounts to primarily. But uh but that's what you're referring to when you say thirty days, that's what it kind of works out to be. [4:58:59, 4:58:59]: Right. [4:59:01, 4:59:10]: I'm sorry, Mr. Thomas Hughes will stand by please. Mr. Thomas, you were saying something earlier. Um on on that particular date. [4:59:10, 4:59:11]: All right. [4:59:11, 4:59:12]: Mr. Blount. [4:59:13, 4:59:15]: Yeah, mayor, thank you. Um [4:59:17, 4:59:25]: When we talk about concerns of communities, we have different subdivisions have different concerns, whether it be lighting, whether it be safety, uh [4:59:25, 4:59:29]: Um Mr. Alexander community said they won't speak bumps. [4:59:29, 4:59:36]: Um we can't not allow public works to not do their assessment in these communities. [4:59:37, 4:59:41]: But yet we could still go into the communities that are that are um [4:59:43, 4:59:46]: that are in the majority of this council. [4:59:46, 4:59:48]: Whether it be lighting, speed bumps, or whatever it is. [4:59:49, 4:59:52]: We have concerns throughout this throughout this community. [4:59:52, 4:59:56]: I think Mr. Thomas for wanting to table it to get numbers. [4:59:57, 5:00:03]: Uh but we have to be careful and cautious because there are several needs in several communities. [5:00:04, 5:00:08]: And when we can sit here and say because we'll have the votes to get it. [5:00:08, 5:00:13]: that let's get what we can get for our community. There's they're niece and wind song right now. [5:00:13, 5:00:18]: Just like their knees in Winslow, just like their knees in Lakeside, just like their knees in Monarch Village. [5:00:20, 5:00:22]: They're needs throughout the communities right here. [5:00:23, 5:00:31]: And we need the public works or somebody to go assess those needs, just like when we just did the the the L Meg with the roads. I asked them to include the uh sidewalks. [5:00:32, 5:00:42]: include the sidewalks because there's some communities, even in my community, where sidewalk repairs are needed because you may have uh uh uh wheelchair accessible areas. [5:00:42, 5:00:45]: People, you know, there are needs throughout these communities. [5:00:46, 5:00:59]: And I understand when we have council members live in certain communities, but we have to we have to focus that when we start to budget money for certain communities, instead of getting an overall analysis from public works, but doing it just because we can. [5:00:59, 5:01:04]: That's not fair to the citizens or all the taxpayers in the city limits the stop bridge. [5:01:04, 5:01:10]: Let's do an assessment across the board and let's see which one is pri let's see which one's a priority. [5:01:10, 5:01:14]: Let's see what's a priority because aesthetics are not a priority. [5:01:16, 5:01:17]: Well thank you. [5:01:18, 5:01:18]: Yeah. [5:01:18, 5:01:22]: Mm stand by please. Miss Barber. So hold your thought. Miss Barber, please. [5:01:22, 5:01:23]: Okay. [5:01:23, 5:01:27]: Thank you, Mayor. Um so the residents of Lakeside actually [5:01:28, 5:01:29]: came to this council. [5:01:29, 5:01:31]: A few years ago. [5:01:32, 5:01:37]: You all didn't move forward on whatever their request was in regards to lighting. [5:01:39, 5:01:40]: I live here now. [5:01:40, 5:01:44]: I can see that there's an issue, inadequate lighting here. [5:01:45, 5:01:46]: They begin the petition. [5:01:49, 5:01:50]: Circulation. [5:01:50, 5:01:52]: That was last year. [5:01:53, 5:01:55]: Here we are in twenty twenty one. [5:01:56, 5:01:57]: The end of twenty twenty one. [5:01:58, 5:02:00]: Mr. Lighton and Mr. Aaron both. [5:02:00, 5:02:02]: Have come to this subdivision. [5:02:02, 5:02:04]: And evaluate it. [5:02:04, 5:02:05]: The subdivision. [5:02:05, 5:02:06]: Nothing has happened. [5:02:08, 5:02:08]: When [5:02:08, 5:02:09]: Presidents. [5:02:10, 5:02:15]: Bring forward their petitions in which they are almost complete. [5:02:15, 5:02:18]: Від гадринг the necessary signatures. [5:02:19, 5:02:22]: I expect this council will do the right thing, considering [5:02:23, 5:02:23]: There are. [5:02:25, 5:02:28]: Issues with in inadequate lighting. [5:02:29, 5:02:30]: Obviously. [5:02:31, 5:02:34]: your building standards or the developments. [5:02:34, 5:02:37]: for these subdivisions were subpar. [5:02:38, 5:02:39]: There are no light. [5:02:39, 5:02:41]: in the parking lot. [5:02:42, 5:02:43]: Of the swimming pool. [5:02:45, 5:02:50]: All of the lights that are in the subdivision are decorative lights. [5:02:50, 5:02:52]: So of course they're damned. [5:02:52, 5:02:55]: I hope that you all were will consider safety. [5:02:56, 5:02:57]: of the residents that live here. [5:02:58, 5:03:01]: Including myself. If I need to abstain from voting on this. [5:03:02, 5:03:03]: It is a major issue. [5:03:05, 5:03:08]: I want to make sure in this budget there is money. [5:03:09, 5:03:10]: That will [5:03:10, 5:03:13]: Cover the expenses of increased lighting. [5:03:14, 5:03:20]: In this subdivision and any other subdivision that has been approved by this council to be developed. [5:03:20, 5:03:22]: with inadequate lighting. [5:03:23, 5:03:24]: It is a safety concern. [5:03:24, 5:03:25]: That's all. [5:03:26, 5:03:26]: Yeah. [5:03:27, 5:03:28]: Yeah, go right, sir. [5:03:28, 5:03:31]: Uh absolutely, Councilwoman Barber, I agree with you. [5:03:31, 5:03:51]: And uh I think we have a general consensus now that uh we're gonna get uh this done within 30 days, we're gonna have Georgia Power come out. We're gonna have the numbers in front of us. And if there's any safety concern and those residents, especially if somebody has a petition, that means that they have signatures and they have buy-in. [5:03:51, 5:03:53]: I think that particular [5:03:53, 5:03:57]: uh issue n would certainly need to be dealt with because you have documentation. [5:03:58, 5:04:00]: On it, where some of these are [5:04:00, 5:04:03]: Our opinions and we have documentation on there. [5:04:03, 5:04:05]: We'll certainly do that. And I think [5:04:06, 5:04:15]: Once we have Georgia Power talk to uh our representatives and we get everybody in the room, I think we all agree that we're going to. [5:04:15, 5:04:21]: uh put the money uh in the budget. We're just gonna delay it for 30 days until we have the facts and figures in front of us. [5:04:21, 5:04:26]: No, so Georgia Power has been out here. I don't know why Mr. Aaron is not speaking up. [5:04:27, 5:04:29]: They've been out here and assessed this. [5:04:29, 5:04:32]: All of this has been just drug on and just stalling. [5:04:33, 5:04:34]: I want to make sure. [5:04:34, 5:04:37]: before we approved this twenty twenty two budget. [5:04:38, 5:04:40]: that there is money allocated. [5:04:40, 5:04:44]: for lighting in this subdivision and stop stalling. [5:04:44, 5:04:48]: That's all. Mr. Aaron, can you share with the council? [5:04:48, 5:04:53]: what you know from the Georgia Power and their assessment of the subdivision. [5:04:54, 5:05:09]: Uh I submitted that information to you and I had previously told Mr. Knighton that Georgia Power, when I met with the rips, there are three different grades of lights that they use. The standard is the 74-watt light bulb. [5:05:09, 5:05:13]: Those were were installed in the majority of the subdivisions. [5:05:13, 5:05:29]: And the proposal they came back with offered two bubs that were higher watts so that they could be exchanged out if that's that's what was wanted in the subdivision. And Ms. Jennifer Williams, who is our lighting rep with George Power, recommended those. [5:05:29, 5:05:33]: Two higher grade waters bulbs to be re [5:05:33, 5:05:41]: Placed in the lakeside subdivision. And my recommendation is that we go with changing the bulbs out first. [5:05:42, 5:06:02]: To see if we don't have to add any additional lights or poles in there. There are two brands. One is the decorative brand, it's 96 watts that you currently have. And the other one is just a regular overhead light like we have on the streets that's not encumbered or covered up by the decorative poles. [5:06:02, 5:06:08]: So you have more lights emitting from that structure. And I think if we tried, we started with. [5:06:09, 5:06:10]: The uh [5:06:11, 5:06:23]: Mr. Aaron, all due respect, every subdivision in the city was supposed to have LED lights. I'm disappointed to hear that Lakeside don't. No, we shouldn't even be starting there. They should already have them. [5:06:23, 5:06:43]: All of them have LED lights, it's just the wattage of the bulbs. The traditional bubs that Georgia Power installed is 76, 74 watts, the LED bulb. That's standard, what they'll install. And now they also have a model that's one is 160. [5:06:43, 5:07:03]: And one is 96 watts. So you could go up to a higher watts bug that illuminates more area than what you currently have. And also a lot of the subdivisions, they wanted the decorative lights that are enclosed. So that prevents light from radiating out. So you [5:07:03, 5:07:10]: you don't give a big as much of a lighting area as you do with the traditional lights that are not covered. [5:07:10, 5:07:30]: And so when I spoke with councilwoman Barber, I told her I would recommend we try the 161 watt light bulbs. You change out those 16 fixtures in our neighborhood to 161 watts from 74 watts and see what the results are. If you get the illumination they desire. [5:07:31, 5:07:40]: then that resolves that issue. If not, then we look at adding additional lights in there. But that was the quicker and simpler way to address this issue so that [5:07:41, 5:07:43]: we'll be able to address it that way. [5:07:44, 5:07:50]: Okay, so with all due respect, I brought this issue to uh Mr. Knighton and Mr. Aaron in twenty twenty. [5:07:51, 5:07:52]: Um [5:07:53, 5:07:57]: They had Georgia Power to come out. If you can share with the council what [5:07:57, 5:07:59]: Georgia Power said then. [5:07:59, 5:08:02]: I know that with the information you just shared. [5:08:02, 5:08:03]: Now [5:08:03, 5:08:04]: Is information that you [5:08:05, 5:08:06]: Email to me. [5:08:06, 5:08:07]: Earlier today. [5:08:07, 5:08:11]: So that's the latest information. If you'll share with them. [5:08:11, 5:08:12]: What transpired? [5:08:12, 5:08:14]: Probably very beginning. I'd appreciate it. [5:08:15, 5:08:22]: Previously, our representative Ezekiel Roberts worked with Georgia Powell. He's no longer with Georgia Powell. He did an assessment. [5:08:22, 5:08:42]: Of the Lakeside Subdivision has said that the lighting was inadequate because of the wattage of bubbles they had used. So in between him transitioning and leaving, there was a void in our service member for about four to five months. And Ms. William has come on board. She's a new rep lighting representative. [5:08:42, 5:08:43]: For the city of [5:08:44, 5:08:57]: Bridge. And so I reminded her of this assessment Mr. Roberts had done. So she had been following up on that. So that's where we are today with the assessment she sent over today and the recommendations. [5:09:00, 5:09:01]: Okay. [5:09:01, 5:09:02]: Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [5:09:03, 5:09:14]: Uh thank you, Mr. Dacious. Uh let me just make something clear. It's about procedurally doing things, whether it's for any community, just doing it the right way. [5:09:14, 5:09:17]: Uh Mr. Alexander community submitted uh [5:09:17, 5:09:27]: uh petition and if lakeside has a petition and we talk about the situation that they need lighter uh more um heavier waters of light bugs [5:09:27, 5:09:29]: I have no problem with that. [5:09:29, 5:09:34]: I have no problem when things are done procedurally done right and done in the in the correct way. [5:09:35, 5:09:38]: But when we sit here and and continually to make [5:09:40, 5:09:43]: uh amounts of monies without any justification. [5:09:43, 5:09:46]: Then as a for me, I can't do that. [5:09:47, 5:09:53]: But when things are procedurally done the way they're supposed to be done, let's light up every community in Stockbridge we can light up. [5:09:54, 5:10:02]: Let's take care of every need that we can take care of as long as the process is not bordered by political intervention. That's all I'm saying. [5:10:05, 5:10:13]: Call for the call for the vote. Yeah, I was gonna do that. Motion's been made and it's been seconded. So uh we have plenty of discussion. So all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [5:10:14, 5:10:16]: Yeah, we'd be reading. [5:10:16, 5:10:20]: Don't you read the motion again? Okay, okay, stand by please. Uh the Miss Holiday. [5:10:22, 5:10:23]: Ms. Holiday, please. [5:10:25, 5:10:40]: minute to undo. Okay. Could you read the motion? Make sure we understand what the motion is. If I'm following this correctly, this is to do the research and have the information brought back to the council within the next thirty days regarding lighting for the city. [5:10:41, 5:10:42]: That's correct. [5:10:43, 5:10:51]: Okay, so that's that's the motion. Once again, um motion's been made and seconded. So all in favor of motion, please indicate. [5:10:51, 5:10:51]: Uh. [5:10:53, 5:11:01]: Okay. And uh I got four votes of I did not see I oppose because [5:11:01, 5:11:04]: Um we need to include in the budget. [5:11:04, 5:11:07]: Um for Lakeside, who's going to bring [5:11:08, 5:11:13]: those positions to the council in twenty twenty two and I don't want to wait until [5:11:14, 5:11:15]: We approve this budget. [5:11:16, 5:11:16]: And then [5:11:17, 5:11:18]: Having to approve. [5:11:19, 5:11:20]: The petition. [5:11:20, 5:11:21]: And not account for. [5:11:22, 5:11:26]: how much this is gonna cost if we're able to get staff to bring us back. [5:11:26, 5:11:34]: the information as it pertains to cost, we need to do it within the next two weeks before we approve this budget. [5:11:34, 5:11:36]: Not three days. That's all. [5:11:37, 5:11:43]: The motion passed four to one. Okay. Yes. Mr. Mayor, can I add a comment? Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. [5:11:43, 5:11:56]: We have two lighting agreements from Georgia Power for the Lakesap subdivision to exchange light bulbs. One is going to uh ninety-six watt and the other one is going to a hundred and [5:11:56, 5:12:00]: I think let me look a hundred and [5:12:01, 5:12:03]: Sixty one watts. [5:12:03, 5:12:04]: Uh [5:12:05, 5:12:08]: Could we move forward with one of these options? [5:12:09, 5:12:15]: so that we could start a process to remedy that lighting issue in that neighborhood. [5:12:15, 5:12:20]: Yes, please. I make a motion that we move forward as proposed by [5:12:20, 5:12:21]: Um Mr. Aaron. [5:12:22, 5:12:27]: So Mr. Aaron, you already have this in your budget already, is what you're saying. You just need to spend the money. [5:12:27, 5:12:28]: Yes, sir. [5:12:29, 5:12:30]: Oh well. [5:12:31, 5:12:35]: We are addressing this issue step by step. The first step is to go from a [5:12:36, 5:12:43]: uh 74 white bulb to uh 161 watt bulb they'll change out 16 light fixtures in there [5:12:43, 5:12:49]: And that'll be the first step in addressing this issue of the low lighting in the neighborhood. [5:12:50, 5:12:59]: Well, that's I mean, in essence, that's part of the research because if that works out, then we might not have to spend any more money. So that's part of the 30 day research. [5:12:59, 5:13:00]: So [5:13:00, 5:13:07]: Uh I'm I'm okay with them moving forward with at least testing out the light bulbs so second, so we can move forward. [5:13:07, 5:13:16]: Mm. Mr. Aaron, I don't think you don't need anything from the council to move forward with what you guys are already investigating as far as the lights, right? You're not changing the picture, you're just changing the water to the buffs, right? [5:13:17, 5:13:29]: We're we're changing fixtures as well. There is no upfront cost. It'd just be like a 25% increase in what they're currently paying, what we're currently paying for that subdivision with the higher wattage bulbs. [5:13:30, 5:13:36]: You said increase? Yes, so because you use a higher wattage bulb in the neighborhood. [5:13:37, 5:13:46]: Yes, uh Vanessa's uh Mr. Aaron, are you referring to the twenty twenty-one budget where you'll use these funds or twenty twenty two? [5:13:46, 5:13:58]: Twenty twenty one. Well they probably twenty twenty one before twenty twenty two before they officially get installed, but I just want council's approval so that we can contact Georgia Power and tell him we're moving forward with [5:13:59, 5:14:03]: trying to hire waters bugs to see if that resolves the issue in Lakeside. [5:14:03, 5:14:05]: Okay. [5:14:06, 5:14:19]: Mm, Ms. Gary, can I ask uh ask one more quick question? Go ahead, Mr. So are you looking to put the highest widest one in or the one before the higher wide? Because you know, we don't want you to have to come back. Which one do you think you're gonna need? [5:14:20, 5:14:36]: Uh based on the concerns we receive from the neighborhood, I think it'll be best to go with the higher wattage bubs. As much as 161, is that correct? Yes, sir. Okay. Let's do that. That's good. Okay, motion has been made in and motion been made in the second. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [5:14:39, 5:14:43]: Three oh Miss Barber, I didn't hear your voice or Miss Gantt. [5:14:44, 5:14:45]: I made the motion, yes. [5:14:46, 5:14:49]: Okay, what's one okay, miss scan miscant? [5:14:50, 5:15:01]: Ms. Cant did not vote on the case. I I I'm sorry, it wouldn't let me do it. I unanimous decision. All right. Thank you. All right. Good deal. Uh okay. [5:15:01, 5:15:08]: uh direct uh all surpluses in the yearly budget to the capital improvement projects budget, not fund balance. [5:15:09, 5:15:11]: Yes, sir. [5:15:11, 5:15:14]: This is something that we've been talked about in [5:15:15, 5:15:18]: Uh staff had made this recommended and we just never moved forward on it. [5:15:19, 5:15:31]: as we have projects coming forward, it's always a political dynamite to take the money out of fund balance. If the money is directed, we know we got the Cultural Arts Center coming up. [5:15:31, 5:15:33]: We know we have other [5:15:33, 5:15:35]: Uh city projects coming up. [5:15:35, 5:15:38]: If the money is put in the capital improvement fund. [5:15:38, 5:15:49]: then we know that this money was dedicated to uh city projects. Instead of dumping the money in fund balance, now we have 17 million dollars. [5:15:49, 5:15:52]: uh in fund balance are close to seventeen million dollars. [5:15:52, 5:16:12]: Honestly, we know that$17 million is not what we should have there. We say this in 2016 and 2017. Oh, we're putting the money in fund balance. Well, we can take it out later. But every time we take the money out of fund balance, there's always political dynamic. Oh, you're you're depleting our reserve, but that's why we put the [5:16:12, 5:16:29]: money in there. So let's put this some funds aside to go into the capital improvements budget versus going into uh the fund balance because we know we got city projects that we're gonna need uh to to uh [5:16:29, 5:16:30]: to invest in. [5:16:32, 5:16:37]: All right, uh comments and discussion on this um council. [5:16:39, 5:16:40]: Thought process. [5:16:40, 5:16:41]: Go ahead, Mr. Blount. [5:16:44, 5:16:49]: Mayor, I'm I'm in favor with the capital improvement budget, but we we talked about [5:16:49, 5:17:03]: uh funds that was that the additional funds and other funding that was coming in, instead of loading up our fund balance and increasing it, we talked to those that's when we initially talked about a capital improvement budget. And we also talked about [5:17:03, 5:17:23]: uh under under Mr. Knight and uh a contingency fund uh also uh because we had different stuff that happened in different uh maybe at the Merrill manager or something like that we didn't have we talked about budgets that we didn't have to go and refer back to uh fund balance so as far as exploring the capital improvement budget and how we [5:17:23, 5:17:43]: Would um um start a capital improvement budget and build that up versus continue to move move toward depleting saying fund balance. I agree with that. Uh and having a uh contingency budget like we had already discussed. In fact, I think we did have a contingency budget uh last year. Is that right, Mr. Wiggins? [5:17:44, 5:17:47]: I think it was like two hundred thousand dollars that we had a contingency budget. [5:17:47, 5:18:07]: It w it it was a hundred thousand and it was in the uh executive uh uh budget. Right, exactly. Yeah, yeah, that that that the uh Mr. Knight and uh city manager uh in reps could could approve amounts that wouldn't come out of fund balance for that. And I know we had discussed two hundred thousand dollars in the uh contingency budget, but I'm for moving. [5:18:07, 5:18:16]: Moving forward with getting uh capital improvement budget and a contingency budget. So we won't have to continue to uh move on the uh [5:18:16, 5:18:23]: Fund balance, uh every time we're gonna uh make moves for uh funding for different uh reasons. [5:18:23, 5:18:25]: Uh Mayor? Yes, sir. [5:18:25, 5:18:30]: So do we have it do we have the uh contingency fund in the twenty twenty two budget, Mr. [5:18:30, 5:18:31]: Wagens. [5:18:32, 5:18:33]: Yes, it's at a hundred thousand. [5:18:33, 5:18:39]: Okay, so it's in the twenty twenty two budget too. Okay, so I'll make a motion to move forward with directing [5:18:39, 5:18:42]: Uh merger surpluses to the capital improvements. [5:18:43, 5:18:45]: And we've already continued the [5:18:45, 5:18:47]: The contingency fund, that's the motion. [5:18:48, 5:18:49]: Is there a second? [5:18:51, 5:18:52]: Is there a second on a motion? [5:18:58, 5:19:00]: Still second on a motion at this point. [5:19:01, 5:19:02]: Okay. [5:19:03, 5:19:04]: All right. [5:19:05, 5:19:06]: We'll move on. [5:19:07, 5:19:15]: Uh work with Henry County on cutting and beautifying our expressway ramps and exits. [5:19:16, 5:19:30]: Let me see here. That's uh that's uh it's kind of close, it's kind of closely connected to uh the lighting for press expressway exits as well. I guess in a CID aspect as well on that. So discussion on that? [5:19:32, 5:19:40]: Uh I think in that instance we just wanna test staff with going to Henry County and making sure that we work out some type of uh [5:19:41, 5:19:46]: in a governmental agreement or some type of framework for an agreement. So [5:19:46, 5:20:05]: that uh when folks get off the expressway exit that they're maintained uh and that they're cut uh and that they're uh presentable and beautified. So I think uh there's no budgetary amount associated with that because uh honestly those um the expressway exits themselves are in [5:20:06, 5:20:13]: Uh the egg the ramps themselves are unincorporated and some of the the roadways are inside the city. [5:20:14, 5:20:27]: All right. So really that's it's no budgetary mark uh amount, but just the fact that the staff needs to coordinate this with the county along the lines with coordinate with the county about the uh lights about the spress expressway exits as well, I'm supposing. [5:20:28, 5:20:32]: Well this is about the uh the cutting right in [5:20:32, 5:20:36]: Right. The beautifying. This is not about the light. This is about the cutting. [5:20:36, 5:20:53]: Okay. And beautifying of those exits. Just making sure that we have the task staff understand that this is a priority for council and that uh we want to make sure that uh that Henry County gets this uh done and along uh um in coordination with us. [5:20:53, 5:21:12]: But you don't have any five uh funding amount for this unless you uh right now, the point. It's not like it's five thousand. No, this because again the the expressway exits aren't in there. If they come back to us with a dollar amount, then we can do a budget amendment for it. But I wanna to make sure that the council is on board with [5:21:12, 5:21:13]: Uh this [5:21:13, 5:21:16]: to make sure that uh we're getting this done. [5:21:18, 5:21:31]: All right, so did you have some type of motion that you want to put on this for the 2022? Well, I'd like to hear from the rest of the council members before I did that because uh to see what they think and not necessarily uh independent of of what I think. [5:21:32, 5:21:34]: All right. Any comments, Council? [5:21:39, 5:21:40]: Any comments at all? [5:21:41, 5:21:43]: Uh Mayor Ford and Council. Um [5:21:46, 5:21:48]: I'm sort of satisfied. [5:21:49, 5:21:50]: with the accomplishment [5:21:51, 5:21:51]: Um [5:21:51, 5:21:56]: I I'm sort of feeling like, you know, we need to move some of these things. Um [5:21:57, 5:21:59]: At at the next meeting. [5:22:00, 5:22:05]: Um the thing that's pressing on my mind, I really can't talk about them right now, but [5:22:05, 5:22:06]: Um [5:22:07, 5:22:12]: There are some some issues that I'm concerned about. I I think we've done a pretty good job tonight. [5:22:13, 5:22:15]: Uh we can always come back and do budget amendments. [5:22:16, 5:22:23]: So and I don't know what else, you know, any other council member may have. I know um councilwoman Gantt. [5:22:23, 5:22:26]: And and Blount have not made any um [5:22:27, 5:22:29]: you know, recommendations or what have you. [5:22:29, 5:22:30]: Um [5:22:30, 5:22:36]: But we can come back and make some other budget amendment. I I I know the chief wants to speak. [5:22:37, 5:22:39]: There's a couple more items. [5:22:39, 5:22:40]: Um [5:22:40, 5:22:45]: You know, these marathon meetings, um, you know, it's getting a little old. [5:22:46, 5:22:49]: Um, I think we've done a pretty good job with the budget. [5:22:49, 5:22:53]: I I think we sort of made some statements in going forward. [5:22:53, 5:22:54]: Um [5:22:56, 5:23:02]: You know, even with the capital improvement, you know, see we can always come back. This is not [5:23:02, 5:23:10]: uh die all tonight. Um so my my suggestion would be let's sort of just regroup. I think we've done enough. [5:23:10, 5:23:12]: Uh I think we need to sort of [5:23:13, 5:23:15]: uh analyze where we are. [5:23:15, 5:23:17]: uh it started to go forward. Um [5:23:18, 5:23:21]: You know, yes, yes, you know, capital improvements are important. [5:23:22, 5:23:23]: Um [5:23:23, 5:23:25]: But you know, we do have a meeting on the twenty first. [5:23:26, 5:23:30]: And so we can always uh, you know, we can always come back and do this. [5:23:31, 5:23:40]: Yes, sir. Go ahead. Okay. Well, that's what my frame of mind was. I'm sorry. I thought tonight was the night where we were going to uh [5:23:40, 5:23:42]: 'Cause I that's that's been the protocol. [5:23:42, 5:23:49]: Going forward, we uh we approved the budget at the first meeting in December. So I thought that's what we were working toward. [5:23:50, 5:23:52]: That well, that's typically what's supposed to happen. [5:23:52, 5:23:56]: Right. So I I I didn't know that we were gonna delay it to the end of time. [5:23:57, 5:23:59]: Do it. [5:24:00, 5:24:04]: night. Yeah and we have until the 31st to to ratify the budget. [5:24:04, 5:24:05]: Okay. All right. [5:24:06, 5:24:22]: Well that but now now the question is see this was a public hearing. Not that I and I and there's certain motions of things I need to go through, but uh don't know if I'll get any response here from the public because we've been at this for quite some time. So on that note, I will open up the public hearing. [5:24:22, 5:24:30]: So I'm gonna need the PIO and uh Venet Miss Holiday to find out whether or not there's anybody online that would have any [5:24:30, 5:24:36]: Mayor Ford, uh this is the third reading. Have have we had any comments from any citizen? [5:24:37, 5:24:41]: Well, no, but I'm I'm going through the motion, sir. I'm going through the motion. I understand. I understand. [5:24:42, 5:25:02]: I'm going through the motion. So uh so what it is is that uh wanna know if there's anybody online that you ladies may know of that are or comments uh for the budget the way it stands now and and the conversations that we've had. Anybody for the budget that you can see on anything from on Facebook Live or anything that somebody's waiting in a waiting room there, anything like that at all? [5:25:02, 5:25:14]: all this for. Mayor for this is Shana Thornton, PIO from Facebook. There are multiple comments um dealing with different discussions tonight, but at this time it doesn't seem anything obvious for me dealing with the hearing. [5:25:16, 5:25:17]: Okay. [5:25:18, 5:25:24]: And Vanessa, do you have do you have any comments at all one way or the other that you see or know or know of the someone in the waiting room at all? [5:25:24, 5:25:27]: There's no one in the waiting room, but there are [5:25:27, 5:25:31]: Anonymous comments made in the chat. [5:25:33, 5:25:50]: Okay. Um one of the questions is where is all this funny coming from? We should not acknowledge anonymous comments. Okay. Somebody should have to speak up to give your name and address. You do have to do your name. You're correct. Um Mr. Bruce Smith says this Georgia lighting should be voted down. [5:25:52, 5:25:55]: Okay. Um let me go down, continue. [5:25:57, 5:26:17]: That is the only comment with a name, Mayor. Okay. All right. So there's so no comments for. So and then so I need something to ask, are there any comments in the in uh uh against? And you just gave me a one comment of Vanessa in that aspect. So that was kind of against. Um Ms. Santa Thornton, any comments that you see on Facebook Live? [5:26:17, 5:26:26]: against uh the budget what's going on with the budget right now in our discussion. Sir, um someone on Facebook identifying themselves as a citizen has mentioned um a subdivision. [5:26:27, 5:26:30]: Pine Grove Subdivision needs resurfacing. That was mentioned. [5:26:32, 5:26:32]: Okay. [5:26:33, 5:26:39]: Okay. All right. And I have here a raised hand. [5:26:41, 5:26:44]: And I would imagine this is is this uh [5:26:45, 5:26:50]: It's probably for against in a sense. Since I talked about against. I don't know. Let's see here, see here. [5:26:53, 5:26:55]: Um [5:27:06, 5:27:14]: All right there, Mr. Bruce Smith, you had a comment in reference to the the budget proceedings and I'm on on some comments against what was going on with the budget. [5:27:20, 5:27:24]: Mrs. Smith, I've now opened it up for you to make comments. You have your hand raised. [5:27:31, 5:27:34]: Oh, I was trying to get to you. Can you hear me now? [5:27:34, 5:27:35]: I gotcha. Go ahead. [5:27:36, 5:27:38]: Uh, this meeting went on too long. [5:27:38, 5:27:40]: Exactly, too long. [5:27:40, 5:27:41]: Um [5:27:42, 5:27:45]: The agenda should have been set for it to just go smoothly right on through. [5:27:46, 5:27:50]: But you've been making a whole lot of comments down here and I apparently [5:27:50, 5:27:53]: Some council people have not been listening to other council people. [5:27:54, 5:27:56]: Uh making perfectly good sense. [5:27:56, 5:28:05]: Uh some of this stuff here should have been discussed before instead of going on you went an hour on one subject that should last about 15 minutes at the most. [5:28:06, 5:28:26]: Uh you still have people you still have people standing here waiting to uh listen to uh the chief. Uh you asking impossible questions to I guess the city attorney uh to come up with all these off-the-wall things here. Uh Ms. Bob is correct that lighting issue should have been resolved a long time ago, but that's something that should not have been [5:28:26, 5:28:31]: 40 minutes on, uh y'all act like y'all kinda bit dysfunctional at the night. [5:28:32, 5:28:52]: And yes, I do agree with Councilman Thomas that y'all should table some of this stuff and work it out and have another special call meeting and and get back to streamlining some of this stuff. It is 1130 at night and I've been on this thing with y'all since you started this council meeting. And it's a long and someone said it's a marathon session, which it really shouldn't be. It really shouldn't be. [5:28:52, 5:28:53]: Nah oh [5:28:54, 5:28:57]: Y'all know my my position on on on making money for the city. [5:28:57, 5:29:12]: Uh I think that was unwise to put a uh Halloween celebration in the city. Uh have the same thing, Councilman Blount made a point that you had people prepared to put these kind of things on, that Halloween thing, and you putting it on the 31st. [5:29:12, 5:29:28]: And and Councilman Blount was current absolutely correct. There are too many places having tongue treats. And if this thing shows up, we don't even have the structure to have this thing downtown like McDonald or Hampton or Ellingwood has, you know, or Locust Grove has. We don't have that kind of structure for that. [5:29:29, 5:29:42]: So until we build all that up, you know, we can't be planning for all of this. And I I'm listening to all this money being put out tonight, but I don't see no income coming in. I see all this money we're spending on this budget, but I don't see any income. [5:29:43, 5:29:48]: Uh you know, we gotta get it better than this. We I mean we're going into a brand new year and [5:29:49, 5:29:57]: What the what people are telling me, and I'm talking about professional people looking at stock bridge, we're gonna be a$17 million deficit come uh July. [5:29:57, 5:29:58]: And we shouldn't be like that. [5:29:59, 5:30:00]: We shouldn't be there. [5:30:02, 5:30:04]: And uh the meeting tonight. [5:30:04, 5:30:07]: It was just too long and too much out of control. [5:30:08, 5:30:12]: You know, y'all need to streamline because the citizen stock bridges deserve better. They really do. [5:30:13, 5:30:15]: All right, well thank you for your comments, sir. [5:30:22, 5:30:25]: Oh. [5:30:33, 5:30:41]: All right, folks. Um, okay. So Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. Uh I I have a question uh for the city clerk. [5:30:43, 5:30:44]: Clarific clarification. [5:30:45, 5:30:46]: I'm sorry. [5:30:46, 5:30:50]: Uh it's it's it's more of a a clarification. Okay. Um [5:30:51, 5:30:54]: The budget process, you know, um [5:30:54, 5:31:01]: my knowledge of the budget is that it it just need to be ratified um before the end of the year. [5:31:02, 5:31:02]: Um [5:31:03, 5:31:07]: Can we uh actually do this uh at the next council meeting? [5:31:07, 5:31:08]: Ratification. [5:31:09, 5:31:13]: That's correct. It would be a continuance of your public hearing. [5:31:13, 5:31:20]: If you don't adopt it by December thirty-first, you would move forward into the new year with the current budget that you have for 2021. [5:31:21, 5:31:21]: Thank you. [5:31:23, 5:31:23]: All right. [5:31:24, 5:31:28]: We're now moved and if not only the questions on that, we're now moving to new business. [5:31:29, 5:31:31]: And uh [5:31:31, 5:31:37]: Number thirteen, request for proposal RFP number twenty twenty that zero view. Yes, ma'am. [5:31:38, 5:31:40]: Can we adjourn for tonight? [5:31:40, 5:31:50]: Or do we have to go through the new business? I'm sorry. But we've been through a lot of line items and added things to the agenda and it's just it's really late. [5:31:50, 5:31:52]: I don't know if I can [5:31:53, 5:31:58]: function anymore. I'm just asking that I think we all are tired and we went through [5:31:59, 5:32:02]: W you know, we can put this on another agenda. [5:32:02, 5:32:22]: But right now, I mean, it's 1130. We had another meeting earlier this past week and we we went for a very long time. And then the meeting before that, we were here to 1230 AM. And it's just a long, long night. And it's been a long two weeks of this. And so [5:32:22, 5:32:26]: If we can kind of regroup and come back, that would be great. [5:32:27, 5:32:33]: This was a lot to take in. I mean, people came up with all kind of new ideas and and new [5:32:33, 5:32:42]: Line items. I mean, it would it's just too much. Yeah, we have these contracts to go through, and I think Chief Chief Kramer was going to make a presentation as well. [5:32:42, 5:32:45]: Um okay, well. [5:32:46, 5:33:06]: I'm ready to go forward. Now, if you all want to adjourn the meeting, we can count, put this on the next meeting, but which the next meeting also will possibly be, you know, somewhat lengthy too, because this is uh six six five additional, six additional items. And we have some other things that some uh routine uh items that uh should go very quickly in reference to the [5:33:06, 5:33:08]: Upcoming New Year. [5:33:08, 5:33:12]: But then Miss Barber, you had Ms. Hold on a second. Miss Barber, you had your hand up. You have a comment, I guess. [5:33:13, 5:33:14]: Keep moving. [5:33:15, 5:33:16]: Let's continue. [5:33:18, 5:33:20]: All right. Mayor Pro Tem? [5:33:21, 5:33:33]: Let's keep going, but we gotta do the citizens business. You know, no one gave us a time limit on what we need to do. Keep moving. Let's go. Let's keep the unnecessary comments to a minimum and let's keep keep it rolling. [5:33:34, 5:33:37]: All right. Any other comments for anybody else? [5:33:39, 5:33:55]: All right. Number 13, request for proposal, RFP number 2020-0026, annual on-call water and sewer emergency operations repair, maintenance, and construction, site engineering incorporated. Ms. Miller and Mr. Aaron, please. [5:33:55, 5:34:00]: Uh good afternoon, Mayor and Council. The public works department is requesting approval to renew the [5:34:00, 5:34:08]: Um competitive solicited contract pursuant to the RFP 202026 Site Engineering Incorporated. [5:34:11, 5:34:12]: Okay. [5:34:13, 5:34:17]: Any c and anything else, Mr. Erin, you got anything to add to that? [5:34:17, 5:34:27]: Uh they're our primary contractor. They do stormwater repair in the city. They just did a major project for us on Hudson Bridge Drive. So we use them. [5:34:27, 5:34:33]: are as as needed to do specifically stormwater projects as part of our stormwater management plan. [5:34:34, 5:34:34]: Okay. [5:34:35, 5:34:43]: Yes, and I would like to add that the contract agreement as stated is attached. Um the contract agreement also references references the RFP, which was also included. [5:34:44, 5:34:47]: Um in the um package that was submitted to council. [5:34:47, 5:34:52]: In addition to that, the contract was also renewed based on Georgia State statute. [5:34:53, 5:34:55]: Okay, any questions, Council? [5:34:55, 5:34:59]: Yes, I'd like to know when was his contract fully executed. [5:35:00, 5:35:01]: And when was the award? [5:35:02, 5:35:04]: The original award of this contract. [5:35:05, 5:35:08]: Okay, based on the contract that's attached, you execute [5:35:09, 5:35:11]: The contract was executed on [5:35:12, 5:35:13]: See here. [5:35:18, 5:35:20]: April 12th, 2021. [5:35:26, 5:35:31]: And it was signed and executed by the clerk, the mayor, the city, the mayor, and the vendor. [5:35:32, 5:35:36]: The bid the the contract was bidded out on [5:35:44, 5:35:47]: Contract was approved by council April 12th, 2021. [5:35:47, 5:35:50]: The agreement is for one year with with four one year renewals. [5:35:51, 5:35:54]: And that stated it was um renewed based on Georgia Code. [5:35:57, 5:35:58]: You know the questions, Council? [5:36:00, 5:36:09]: If not in the motion accept this uh contract or accept I do have one more question. This is um for a one year extension. [5:36:10, 5:36:13]: Right. The contract was um the contract has a one year [5:36:14, 5:36:21]: One is a one year contract with with the option to renew for four one year renewals. We're bringing it this before you now for one year extension. [5:36:22, 5:36:28]: Okay, so if this contract was approved in April of twenty twenty one. [5:36:30, 5:36:36]: A year from now would be April 2022. So why should we present it to the council at this time? [5:36:37, 5:36:37]: Oh. [5:36:38, 5:36:46]: Right. Based on Georgia code, uh six Georgia code multi-year, I can read the section of the code which applies to the fiscal year renewal if you would like. [5:36:49, 5:36:53]: If if it helps clarify anything, we must do that then. Sure, definitely. [5:36:58, 5:36:59]: Um [5:37:00, 5:37:03]: Okay, basically uh twenty sixteen Georgia Code Title Fifty. [5:37:04, 5:37:05]: Um секшен [5:37:06, 5:37:23]: One, the contract shall terminate absolutely and without further obligation on the part of the user agency of the department at the close of the physical year in which the in which the contract was executed and at the close of the succeeding fiscal year for which it may be renewed. Again, that's um 2016 Georgia Code Title 15 number one. [5:37:25, 5:37:25]: Okay. [5:37:26, 5:37:29]: Mr. Ford, I'd like to make a motion for this. [5:37:29, 5:37:30]: I go there. [5:37:31, 5:37:34]: I'll make a motion to extend this contract. [5:37:34, 5:37:39]: with the condition that this be rebidted um next year. [5:37:41, 5:37:41]: Oh [5:37:42, 5:37:46]: If this project was just this contract would just be it this year. [5:37:46, 5:37:51]: We went out for bid this year for the own call and psych was the one that [5:37:52, 5:37:57]: was awarded the contract. I'm looking at the RP and it said it built it out in twenty twenty. [5:37:58, 5:38:02]: Well perhaps the award was made in twenty twenty one. [5:38:02, 5:38:13]: Yeah. Basically the RFP number is 2020 0026. The RFP was sent out during the 2020 fiscal year. [5:38:16, 5:38:18]: The award was done after the fact. [5:38:19, 5:38:37]: So I'm not really concerned about the fiscal year. All I'm concerned about is what does the term say in the contract language? And basically the contract was approved by by council April 12th, 2021. There's a one-year contract with four one year renewals. [5:38:41, 5:38:47]: That's actually what we agreed upon when uh when because I don't sign contracts like this unless I had approval. So [5:38:47, 5:38:49]: So we agreed upon that. [5:38:50, 5:38:52]: Before we make a motion, I'd like to ask some questions. [5:38:53, 5:38:54]: All right. [5:38:55, 5:39:02]: What work what work has this vendor done for us? Uh I'm sorry you mentioned Hudson Bridge. Is that work complete or no? [5:39:03, 5:39:04]: Yes, sir, that project is complete. [5:39:05, 5:39:08]: They got a project coming up on the [5:39:09, 5:39:16]: Summit View. They've done projects throughout the city for they've done stuff in North Ridge. They've done projects in Glen Addy. [5:39:16, 5:39:20]: They've done projects in uh Winsong. [5:39:20, 5:39:26]: Uh throughout the city they've done stormwater projects. I can send a list of projects that they have. [5:39:27, 5:39:31]: Don is usually included in our quarterly update, but I could send out that spreadsheet tomorrow. [5:39:32, 5:39:35]: And so we're so w what so they've been with the city since April? [5:39:38, 5:39:52]: Well that's when I signed the contract anyway. Right. So I mean were they our previous vendor or were they just a new vendor to they were a previous vendor when we rebid it? They were the lowest binder this time as well. So that's why we're using them again. [5:39:53, 5:39:59]: Okay, so we we decided to go with the lowest vendor. That's what we're doing, is that what was required? [5:39:59, 5:40:05]: We're also actually uh there was a correction on that. This was an RFP, it was not an ITB, which means that [5:40:05, 5:40:12]: They were evaluated based on cost, was one part of it. The other part was experienced, and it was all done by the evaluation committee. [5:40:15, 5:40:19]: Okay, so it wasn't are you saying that it was or was not put [5:40:20, 5:40:32]: back out or yes it was yes it was it was it was resolicited but it was resolicited as a request for proposal in which cost is one component there was three different components in which they were evaluated. [5:40:32, 5:40:35]: Okay, so they weren't not necessarily the lowest cost and were just [5:40:36, 5:40:38]: That they were the ones selected by the committee. [5:40:38, 5:40:39]: So [5:40:39, 5:40:42]: Uh do we we're we're okay. All right. [5:40:44, 5:40:44]: Okay. [5:40:47, 5:40:48]: All right. Anything else? Mr. Blount. [5:40:50, 5:40:55]: Mayor is there a motion on the floor? Uh but it wasn't seconded. Motion wasn't seconded. [5:40:56, 5:41:03]: Well I'd like to I like the motion to um approve the request for RLP for on-site water and sewer engineering. [5:41:03, 5:41:07]: Okay. I'll second. Okay, Ms. Cass second that. All right. [5:41:08, 5:41:10]: I would imagine there's no further comment. [5:41:10, 5:41:12]: And so all in favor of motion, please indicate. [5:41:13, 5:41:13]: Uh [5:41:15, 5:41:17]: I mean it's gonna drop off over. All opposed. [5:41:19, 5:41:22]: You see that on the screen there. [5:41:23, 5:41:25]: Okay. Abstain? [5:41:27, 5:41:30]: I'm wondering, did you call for a second on the motion that I made? [5:41:31, 5:41:32]: I thought I was [5:41:34, 5:41:47]: Well, we already we just made uh well I thought I did, but uh but what it amounts to w whether I did or not now we already had a we just had a motion, a second, and we're taking a vote. And see, so that takes precedent the point. So right now I have um [5:41:47, 5:41:53]: uh two two for and two against and what is your motion what is your part of your uh what is your decision [5:41:55, 5:41:55]: According to [5:41:56, 5:41:56]: Excuse me? [5:41:57, 5:42:02]: I oppose. You oppose. Okay. So the motion fails three to two. [5:42:04, 5:42:04]: So I took [5:42:05, 5:42:14]: Can I just mention something? That means that if we have an emergency, a stormwater emergency or anything like that, we do not have a vendor available to repair it. [5:42:15, 5:42:15]: So [5:42:16, 5:42:16]: Yeah. [5:42:18, 5:42:20]: Well, I'd like to make another motion. [5:42:20, 5:42:22]: Mayor, if you'd if you'd like me to. [5:42:23, 5:42:24]: We feel a lot. [5:42:24, 5:42:29]: Stand by a second. Mr. Thomas. [5:42:29, 5:42:35]: So um aren't they still on on on call up up until [5:42:35, 5:42:39]: Uh December thirty first or April, whatever that date is. [5:42:40, 5:42:41]: No, sir. [5:42:42, 5:42:42]: They're [5:42:43, 5:42:48]: According to Ms. Miller, there the the agreement will terminate on December thirty first of this year. [5:42:49, 5:42:53]: We just had that discussion. The attorney told us twelve months is twelve months. [5:42:53, 5:42:54]: Right. [5:42:57, 5:42:58]: That is correct. [5:42:59, 5:43:00]: So [5:43:00, 5:43:03]: See that's see that's that's that's the problem w [5:43:03, 5:43:06]: I I'm just having a problem with this process. So [5:43:07, 5:43:09]: Is it is or is it not? [5:43:10, 5:43:10]: I it's [5:43:15, 5:43:17]: I need to know when this contract was fully executed. [5:43:19, 5:43:21]: In April, so it would be twelve months from that. [5:43:22, 5:43:23]: One full year. [5:43:25, 5:43:31]: And I uh um mayor counsel, so you know whatever the um uh the attorney um deems to be. [5:43:31, 5:43:33]: Uh legally sufficient. [5:43:33, 5:43:35]: Um, procurement is more than willing to. [5:43:36, 5:43:41]: accept the um attorney's legal position, um, understanding that I I I read the code. [5:43:42, 5:43:47]: Okay,'cause so could so in April could this contract be put back out is since we're not [5:43:47, 5:43:51]: Uh is that the case or how does it what works from there in April? [5:43:59, 5:44:03]: Well, if if it's council's wish, I guess we'll go back out to bed next year. [5:44:04, 5:44:06]: Well yes, let's do that. [5:44:07, 5:44:13]: Otherwise uh we're we're we're not to vote on this tonight. So that was that's why I get gathered from this point. [5:44:13, 5:44:21]: Therefore, I'd like to make a motion. My motion is to move forward with council um with staff's recommendation to [5:44:21, 5:44:23]: Extend this contract. [5:44:24, 5:44:26]: but with the condition that it be rebidd. [5:44:27, 5:44:28]: Next year. [5:44:29, 5:44:32]: And a new recommendation to award a new contract. [5:44:33, 5:44:35]: Is presented to the council. [5:44:36, 5:44:36]: Choir. [5:44:37, 5:44:38]: to the expiration date. [5:44:39, 5:44:45]: And we don't we we don't need a new motion. It's gonna go to April anyway. The attorneys already told us. [5:44:45, 5:44:53]: That the contract is 12 months. So it's not going to expire tonight. It won't expire until April. So we don't really need to do that. [5:44:54, 5:44:58]: So we don't need to do anything actually. We don't need to do anything. We they're still on the contract till April. [5:45:00, 5:45:00]: Mm. [5:45:01, 5:45:02]: Yes, Mr. Blount. [5:45:03, 5:45:04]: Uh Quentin. [5:45:05, 5:45:09]: Is there anything else on here that that you would say we don't need to approve tonight? [5:45:10, 5:45:16]: Because to go through all this and go through whatever, is it anything that you see that we don't need to prove tonight? [5:45:16, 5:45:23]: versus what m what what Ms. Miller is saying, is there something on there you saying we don't need to approve tonight that that's going to be extended through next year. [5:45:24, 5:45:28]: Because we're going through a whole bunch of nothing and I think they say Chief got a presentation. [5:45:28, 5:45:34]: It's getting late in the evening and and you know, it's it's sometimes it's time to just cut cut cut this stuff out. [5:45:34, 5:45:36]: Is there anything else on these uh [5:45:36, 5:45:42]: on here that that that that we don't need to prove tonight. Can you guys let let us know now? [5:45:46, 5:45:47]: That's a tough. [5:45:48, 5:45:49]: I like that. [5:45:49, 5:45:52]: That that's a tough one to be able to answer like that because [5:45:52, 5:45:53]: Good things, vendors. [5:45:54, 5:45:56]: And with all vendors. [5:45:56, 5:45:59]: There's going to be some level of latitude because we're working with them already. [5:46:00, 5:46:08]: And so if a contract were to expire at the end of the month, and I know we have a meeting on Wednesday, I know we have a couple of other meetings this month. [5:46:09, 5:46:09]: Then [5:46:10, 5:46:15]: That can be ingested and worked with. It does put a strain on [5:46:15, 5:46:18]: Those of us who are on the executive side. [5:46:18, 5:46:20]: If we don't have clear direction about what we want to do. [5:46:21, 5:46:21]: Yeah, so [5:46:22, 5:46:30]: They will they will give us some latitude. The question is how much latitude? And it just does put a lot of executive strain. It does put a lot of strain on the executive side if. [5:46:30, 5:46:33]: We don't have the record. Mr. Washington. Mr. Washington, real quick. [5:46:34, 5:46:36]: I'm talking about situations like we just had. [5:46:37, 5:46:37]: We're [5:46:38, 5:46:39]: We we're uh [5:46:40, 5:46:43]: The the year the year is up in uh April. [5:46:43, 5:46:46]: And we're renewing the night because as a [5:46:46, 5:46:57]: I guess a misunderstanding or or well, I'm gonna say misunderstanding and it misin an interpretation by procurement of interpretation by you all. Is there anything else that we need to approve tonight? [5:46:58, 5:47:00]: That twelve months in in twenty twenty two. [5:47:01, 5:47:03]: Because it's gonna be the same situation. [5:47:05, 5:47:10]: Uh Mr. Wing, what the fiscal year ends in Stockbridge is are y'all, is that December? [5:47:10, 5:47:13]: The third first. Third first of December. [5:47:14, 5:47:14]: Right. [5:47:15, 5:47:17]: And so that's why [5:47:17, 5:47:21]: That's where the confusion comes in, the fiscal year, as you all know. [5:47:22, 5:47:25]: Or of Stockbridge is the end of the is the end of December. [5:47:25, 5:47:34]: So the gold says you gotta bring them in. In theory, you have to bring them in, but you're already working with these vendors. And so most time it's not an issue. So I guess. [5:47:35, 5:47:40]: We can l so to answer your question, yes. If you won't give us a minute, we can look through the stuff and and talk with [5:47:41, 5:47:42]: Procurement about it. [5:47:42, 5:47:45]: Well, Quentin, let me say this because if the language [5:47:45, 5:47:48]: If the language says fiscal year. [5:47:49, 5:47:51]: And we'll wait until April. [5:47:51, 5:47:55]: then to me that's a conflict in in in uh uh [5:47:56, 5:47:58]: And what procurement is presenting [5:47:59, 5:48:06]: versus what's written in the contract versus their start the the the date of April, which you're saying that we all have to renew. [5:48:07, 5:48:09]: So I'm just trying to figure out [5:48:09, 5:48:18]: Between that those two, how do how do we determine whether we're gonna deal with fiscal year, which is December thirty first, or we're gonna deal with a full year, which is in April? [5:48:19, 5:48:22]: No, so they're still on the contract to do a full year. [5:48:23, 5:48:23]: Right. [5:48:24, 5:48:24]: But [5:48:25, 5:48:26]: In essence, if we're not [5:48:27, 5:48:29]: If we don't renew the contract. [5:48:31, 5:48:35]: Generally what will happen and and I'll let Jeremy speak to this as well. [5:48:35, 5:48:41]: Generally what will happen is that because they're under contract for a year, they have a right to perform a that entire year. [5:48:42, 5:48:43]: However, if they do not get [5:48:44, 5:48:54]: per the terms of the contract. And I'm not I'm I've not looked at the specific contract. As you all know, Jeremy's been taking the lead on the procurement. But what happens is that [5:48:54, 5:48:57]: If they're not given enough notice to be able to renew the contract. [5:48:58, 5:49:00]: then they won't renew and the services will end. [5:49:00, 5:49:05]: But typically because there's a working relationship with governmental entities like cities and and [5:49:06, 5:49:12]: water authorities and all that type of stuff, the vendors will give latitude because the vendors know that the people they're working with have good [5:49:13, 5:49:15]: the ability to pay and meet and term the contract. [5:49:15, 5:49:16]: Well, I went Jeremy. [5:49:19, 5:49:21]: Jeremy, you want to continue? Yeah, the [5:49:22, 5:49:34]: As as we discussed, it's my position. Some of these contracts that were signed in April, for example, run though the city's fiscal year is the calendar year, the contracts run. If it was signed in April, then it would run through. [5:49:35, 5:49:37]: April to April or or successive year. [5:49:41, 5:49:41]: Okay. [5:49:42, 5:49:49]: Stand by Miss Barber. Mr. Thomas, you had your hand up earlier. Well, I was I was gonna respond to uh Councilman Blount. [5:49:49, 5:49:52]: Actually it was about the next agenda item. [5:49:53, 5:50:01]: And I was going to speak on that and I was gonna make this real quick. And I think this one is, I think we can sort of um finalize this one if we get to it. [5:50:02, 5:50:08]: uh agenda item 14 uh is it seventeen whichever one it is it's actually the next item I believe. [5:50:10, 5:50:11]: All right, Miss Barber. [5:50:13, 5:50:20]: No, I wanted to, I'm looking at the contract. It is important to note the terms of this contract. [5:50:20, 5:50:23]: It doesn't speak about physical year or calendar year. [5:50:23, 5:50:26]: It just says this agreement shall be for one year. [5:50:26, 5:50:28]: Com commencing [5:50:29, 5:50:31]: On the date of execution. [5:50:31, 5:50:33]: Stated. [5:50:34, 5:50:35]: So the execution date. [5:50:36, 5:50:37]: One year from there. [5:50:38, 5:50:40]: which is in April of next year. [5:50:40, 5:50:43]: We can move on with this. There's nothing, no action. [5:50:43, 5:50:45]: from the council at this time. [5:50:45, 5:50:47]: That's that's a great that's a great point. [5:50:47, 5:50:48]: We won't. [5:50:49, 5:50:54]: Also, um again, um as stated, um procurement has um read the code. [5:50:54, 5:50:58]: Basically, there's a section also in the contract that speaks to the RFP. [5:50:58, 5:51:07]: Keep in mind that the RP is an exhibit to the actual contract. So no contract stands on this loan on its own. It's not just a two-page contract. This contract. [5:51:07, 5:51:27]: Refers to exhibit as the scope and terms as is listed in the RFP. The RFP is a component to the contract. But that being said, legal has spoken. I've learned in best practices that if legal has spoken, then procurement can then follow. So if legal has spoken, I would like to state that the next two projects. [5:51:27, 5:51:47]: Which is janitorial, and the landscape maintenance has the same issue in which it was renewed based on the state code physical term being December. And also the contract also refers to the RFP. The RFP clearly states that the renewal terms is December. [5:51:47, 5:51:49]: However, [5:51:50, 5:51:57]: Council has spoken, legal has spoken, and procurement is more than willing to follow legal legal advice. [5:52:01, 5:52:21]: Okay, so make sure I understand you you're saying the janitorial maintenance is in the same issue and you mentioned landscape maintenance. Is that right? That's correct. Both of them are um renewed based on the code, the fiscal year state code, and also in the contracts, it refers to the RFP as an exhibit. If you review the RFP, that's why they're all sent in the [5:52:21, 5:52:41]: The package because it is a part of the contract. It refers to the RFP and the terms listed in the RFP, which is part of the contract. That being said, all that was said for the record. That being said, legal has spoken, legal has determined that we do not need to go with the fiscal year. So procurement is more than willing. [5:52:41, 5:52:43]: willing to fill it to um follow legal's advice. [5:52:44, 5:52:51]: All right. And earlier, yeah, I was saying earlier, Mr. Thomas, I think you have some concern about the maintenance contract. Is that correct? [5:52:51, 5:52:53]: Yellowstone, yes I do. [5:52:53, 5:52:54]: All right. [5:52:54, 5:52:58]: Uh all right. Not the not the not to mention, but Yellowstone. [5:53:00, 5:53:02]: It says [5:53:02, 5:53:07]: It says landscape maintenance services with Yellowstone Landscape LLC. That is the one. [5:53:09, 5:53:29]: Last number 14. But I'm man and make sure before we go on. So I'm assuming number 13, no issue. We just leave it as is. We move on to number 14. Is that correct? Is that is that janitor? No, no, no, no. 14 would deal with the on-call water and sewer. I think we're moving on from that. Number 14 deals with the landscape maintenance and services with Yellowstone. That's what [5:53:28, 5:53:32]: Yes, we have the issue with Yellowstone. All right, so. [5:53:32, 5:53:50]: All right. So that's a request for proposal. RFP number 2021-004. Landscape maintenance services with Yellowstone Landscape LLC contract renewal presented by once again Miss Miller and Mr. Aaron. And so do you all have some comments before Mr. Mr. Thomas speaks? [5:53:50, 5:53:57]: No, basically uh the public works department is also requesting renewal. For the record, the contract was renewed based on state code. [5:53:57, 5:54:11]: The contract also refers to the RFP as an exhibit. The act the exhibit states basically uh the RFP states basically that the contracts renew December of each year and um the uh [5:54:12, 5:54:21]: Public Works Department has determined that they were happy with um the work of of the of Yellowstone. That being said, I'll go ahead and turn it over to the public works director. [5:54:22, 5:54:29]: Thank you. Oh, thank you, Ms. Miller. I don't have any comments at this time. As as we all know, they started in October, October one. [5:54:30, 5:54:31]: They um did some [5:54:32, 5:54:37]: uh refreshing at the amphitheater and they have done some other cities. [5:54:37, 5:54:37]: [21278.5, 21279.5]: But that's all I have. [5:54:39, 5:54:41]: Okay, Mr. Thomas, you have some comments then. [5:54:42, 5:54:51]: Yes, um if if council would recall, um Yellowstone, this contract came to us in September September the twenty-eighth. [5:54:52, 5:55:00]: uh in twenty twenty one uh in the um supporting document it referenced uh that date [5:55:01, 5:55:03]: I went back and pulled that. [5:55:04, 5:55:10]: Um that contract. I went back and pulled the uh minutes and issue that I have. [5:55:10, 5:55:16]: At that time in September of twenty eight, it spoke to the scope of [5:55:16, 5:55:17]: Work. [5:55:18, 5:55:21]: Um and Mrs. Barber had a had a comment as well. [5:55:21, 5:55:23]: So the [5:55:25, 5:55:32]: Mr. Let me just go back. Councilwoman Barber had an issue uh with [5:55:34, 5:55:36]: With the um [5:55:37, 5:55:42]: With she inquired about the area that would be covered in this agreement. [5:55:42, 5:55:53]: Uh Mr. Aaron noted I'm reading from the minutes, uh, but I can't go back to uh September the 28th with that document. Uh Mr. Aaron noted that it would cover City Hall. [5:55:54, 5:55:56]: Менісипот [5:55:56, 5:55:57]: The amputheater [5:55:58, 5:56:00]: The new public works building. [5:56:00, 5:56:03]: Maintenance m uh municipal park. [5:56:03, 5:56:09]: The Merrill Manner's Conference Center, the Ted Stricken Conference Center, the Downtown Streetscape, [5:56:10, 5:56:17]: East Atlanta Road Street, historic markers at Floyd Chapel. [5:56:17, 5:56:18]: And the Greenfront Cafe. [5:56:19, 5:56:24]: Banner stations at Walmart and North Henry Boulevard and Rockwork. [5:56:25, 5:56:28]: This is the agreement that we approved. [5:56:29, 5:56:31]: And uh on September the twenty eighth. [5:56:32, 5:56:34]: For two hundred and fifty thousand. [5:56:35, 5:56:36]: No. [5:56:36, 5:56:37]: Today. [5:56:38, 5:56:41]: This is coming back to us again. [5:56:41, 5:56:45]: For an additional hundred and fifty thousand. [5:56:45, 5:56:51]: for the same coverage that we are approved on on September the twenty eighth. [5:56:52, 5:56:57]: And just based on that, um, I'm going to motion to to deny because. [5:56:58, 5:56:59]: We have approved [5:57:00, 5:57:11]: the scope of work. And if you go back and look at the document and look at the summary minute, uh it indicates that all of these um service areas [5:57:12, 5:57:14]: were approved [5:57:15, 5:57:17]: On September the twenty eight. [5:57:18, 5:57:19]: And here now. [5:57:19, 5:57:22]: It's coming back again. [5:57:22, 5:57:24]: Uh with the same scope. [5:57:25, 5:57:27]: And they're asking us to [5:57:28, 5:57:35]: approve an additional 150,000. So my point is is again, and and as we can see all night tonight, [5:57:36, 5:57:39]: Um it it's just something wrong here. Um [5:57:40, 5:57:56]: I'm not, it's just something wrong here. And that that's the point I'm trying to make, but I'm going to make a motion uh to to deny this tonight simply because we have already approved the contract uh September the 28th for the scope of work that that was indicated at that time. [5:57:57, 5:57:58]: Uh Mayor, may I may I speak? [5:57:59, 5:58:01]: Yeah, sure. Go ahead, please. [5:58:01, 5:58:21]: Yes, um basically if you look at the agenda um that was submitted for the um landscape on page two of the land of the agenda, it basically states that yes, we are asking to renew the contract, but if um on but in the section um of the middle of the contract, it states that the public works department is [5:58:20, 5:58:40]: Also requesting that the annual contract amount of the landscape maintenance be increased by$150,000 to accommodate the modified scope of services, which will include two additional city buildings, amphitheater and public works, the two banner sites, and the [5:58:40, 5:59:00]: Two historical markers for an annual annual estimated overall contract amount of 300,000. So, yes, the contract was initially awarded as stated for 250,000, but because the public works department is asking to add additional modified scope, it actually increases. [5:59:00, 5:59:05]: the overall amount and that is listed on the second page of the agenda. [5:59:05, 5:59:12]: Mayor, I I contend that what we approved on what we approved on September the 28th. [5:59:13, 5:59:15]: It had the full scope. [5:59:15, 5:59:25]: Um and and I I I remember that because Mrs. Barber um she she abstained simply because she did not see um [5:59:26, 5:59:30]: uh the the the the contract language but [5:59:30, 5:59:33]: Um what I read just a minute ago. [5:59:34, 5:59:44]: That all of those um areas of of scope of work, this is what we approved upon September the 28th. [5:59:45, 5:59:56]: uh in 2021. We we approve all of the scope of work at that time. So there's no additional scope as I as I interpret this document. [5:59:56, 5:59:59]: It was approved upon um September the twenty eighth. [6:00:00, 6:00:01]: Dacious, would you like to speak to that? [6:00:02, 6:00:17]: Yeah, could we hear from Mr. Aaron? And Mr. Aaron is quoted in the uh summary minutes going back uh September the twenty eighth, twenty twenty-one. Uh he he responded to Council Woman's uh question. [6:00:18, 6:00:19]: Okay. [6:00:19, 6:00:24]: The price differential is remember that was a conversation where it was gonna be [6:00:25, 6:00:31]: twice a year with the pine straw. And I think Mayor Pro Tem Alexander mentioned that that wasn't frequent enough. [6:00:31, 6:00:33]: So that was changed to quarterly. [6:00:34, 6:00:36]: Instead of semi annual. [6:00:36, 6:00:44]: At all of the facilities. And that's what led to the increase because you changed the number of service or number of visits. [6:00:45, 6:01:03]: at certain locations. I know City Hall with the pine straw, it was amphitheater and it and it was the uh location across by Stockbridge Elementary School and it was some other things that you added the number of service visits to those locations. That's what led to the price increase. [6:01:04, 6:01:06]: Mayor Ford, if I may again. [6:01:06, 6:01:07]: The minutes [6:01:08, 6:01:11]: Uh Mr. Rod uh Mangrum. [6:01:11, 6:01:15]: Representative of Yellowstone landscape noted [6:01:16, 6:01:17]: It would include [6:01:18, 6:01:19]: Weekly maintenance [6:01:19, 6:01:26]: during the growing season and biweekly maintenance of the off season, weekly moin. [6:01:27, 6:01:29]: Two applications of pine straw. [6:01:29, 6:01:38]: Uh ro rotation of flower. All of this was included in the September 28th agreement. [6:01:41, 6:01:44]: All right. Uh Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [6:01:46, 6:01:50]: Thank you, Mayor Ford. I'd like to ask the city attorneys. [6:01:51, 6:01:55]: Are they reviewing these contracts before they're brought to the council? [6:01:57, 6:02:00]: I like for them to review these before they come to the council. [6:02:01, 6:02:03]: Mr. Washington, are you all reviewing these? [6:02:04, 6:02:05]: Before they come to us. [6:02:06, 6:02:07]: They're sent to us, yes. [6:02:09, 6:02:10]: All these are not sent to us. [6:02:12, 6:02:14]: I'm looking at [6:02:14, 6:02:20]: There but Jeremy now Jeremy correct me because Jeremy's dealing exclusively with procurement is one of his matters. So I [6:02:20, 6:02:21]: Can't speak on. [6:02:21, 6:02:26]: If we have by that'cause I'm doing other contracts that we do have that are coming up, but [6:02:26, 6:02:30]: I'm looking at the staff recommendation form for council approval. [6:02:30, 6:02:32]: For this particular item. [6:02:32, 6:02:34]: In the very first page. [6:02:34, 6:02:36]: Under the background information. [6:02:36, 6:02:40]: It says the public works department is requesting approval to renew. [6:02:40, 6:02:42]: The competitors solicited. [6:02:42, 6:02:43]: contract. [6:02:44, 6:02:48]: The c and it goes on to say the contract was approved by the council. [6:02:48, 6:02:49]: On September twenty eighth. [6:02:50, 6:02:54]: Of twenty twenty one in the amount of two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. [6:02:55, 6:02:58]: Then it goes on to staff recommendation. [6:02:59, 6:03:02]: Public Works is requesting approval to renew. [6:03:03, 6:03:05]: the competitive solicited contract. [6:03:06, 6:03:09]: That is really not what staff is requesting. [6:03:10, 6:03:10]: But [6:03:11, 6:03:12]: This is misleading. [6:03:13, 6:03:16]: There is um a document. [6:03:17, 6:03:19]: Here from Yellowstone. [6:03:20, 6:03:22]: And it points out the contract. [6:03:22, 6:03:23]: Effective thing. [6:03:24, 6:03:26]: October first of twenty twenty one. [6:03:26, 6:03:28]: with the contract expiration date. [6:03:29, 6:03:30]: Of September thirtieth. [6:03:31, 6:03:32]: of twenty twenty two. [6:03:34, 6:03:38]: So the council needs to be clear when these items are added to the agenda. [6:03:39, 6:03:40]: What actions? [6:03:40, 6:03:42]: Staff are looking for us to take. [6:03:43, 6:03:44]: This is a lot of information. [6:03:45, 6:03:47]: for us to have to read. This is 158 pages. [6:03:48, 6:03:50]: Just this item alone. [6:03:50, 6:03:58]: But all we need is to have a contract and to understand what it is the staff is asking the council to do. [6:03:59, 6:04:02]: This recommendation form says contract approval for renewal. [6:04:03, 6:04:11]: So it's misleading. And I just want to make sure that the attorneys are reviewing these items that contain contracts. [6:04:11, 6:04:13]: before it comes to the council. [6:04:13, 6:04:15]: Are you reviewing these, Mr. Berry? [6:04:16, 6:04:19]: But c Councilwoman Barr, Mayor Ford, if I may. [6:04:20, 6:04:21]: Go right ahead, sir. [6:04:21, 6:04:26]: Before you cut me off, Councilman Thomas, I'd like for Mr. Berry to answer my question. Jesus. [6:04:27, 6:04:31]: Yeah, same with you these council members. [6:04:32, 6:04:42]: Councilwoman Barber, if we may before we get to that point, my contention though is, and this way I'm sort of cutting you off, but my contention, we have approved. [6:04:43, 6:04:45]: The scope of work. [6:04:46, 6:04:54]: for disagreement. So this is precedent over I think what you what you are asking the attorney because it's been approved. [6:04:54, 6:05:06]: And all of the scope of work. So I think we got to deal with that issue first. You understand what I'm saying? We have approved the scope of work. So this is what you call double dipping. [6:05:08, 6:05:19]: So Councilwoman Barber, you can go ahead and and and ask uh Mr. Jeremy uh your your question, but I just want everyone to understand that we have approved the scope of work on September the 28th. [6:05:23, 6:05:24]: I already asked him my question. [6:05:25, 6:05:26]: I wanted to make sure that the attorneys [6:05:27, 6:05:32]: are reviewing these items as it pertains to contracts before they come to the council. [6:05:33, 6:05:34]: Because what [6:05:34, 6:05:36]: This is asking is for a renewal. [6:05:37, 6:05:38]: When in fact [6:05:38, 6:05:39]: That isn't [6:05:40, 6:05:44]: based on the com based on what Miss Miller said and Mr. [6:05:44, 6:05:45]: Aaron has said [6:05:46, 6:05:47]: They're not asking for a renewal. [6:05:48, 6:05:49]: But that's what this form says. [6:05:50, 6:05:52]: They're requesting counsel renewal. [6:05:54, 6:05:58]: I think for the original contract that we approved in September [6:05:59, 6:06:01]: Um for two hundred fifty thousand dollars. [6:06:02, 6:06:03]: I think now. [6:06:04, 6:06:05]: Mr. Aaron. [6:06:06, 6:06:07]: must be coming back. [6:06:08, 6:06:09]: Asking for us to increase it. [6:06:10, 6:06:12]: by another hundred and fifty thousand dollars. [6:06:14, 6:06:15]: That must be [6:06:15, 6:06:17]: what he is wanting. [6:06:17, 6:06:18]: If that is the case. [6:06:19, 6:06:25]: All of this information is irrelevant that they provide most of this information is irrelevant. [6:06:27, 6:06:41]: Mayor, may I speak? I need for Mr. Aaron or Ms. Miller to explain what is the purpose of what is this item and what action are they looking for the council to take. Mayor, may I speak? Yeah, go go write it, please. Okay, the um council recommendation form. [6:06:45, 6:06:50]: The council recommendation form here, it says background information on the front first page. [6:06:50, 6:06:53]: So the background information. [6:06:53, 6:06:55]: Is that basically the contract? [6:06:55, 6:06:57]: Was approved by council on the twenty first. [6:06:58, 6:07:02]: It's an estimated annual amount right now, background 250,000. [6:07:03, 6:07:08]: The contract is for one year with four one year renewal options. Background, we're still in background. [6:07:09, 6:07:10]: Background. [6:07:11, 6:07:13]: Second page says [6:07:14, 6:07:15]: Staff recommendation. [6:07:18, 6:07:20]: the background already happened. [6:07:20, 6:07:22]: This is the staff recommendation. [6:07:23, 6:07:26]: And you read where it says underneath staff recommendation. [6:07:26, 6:07:29]: We're summarizing now what we're asking for. [6:07:29, 6:07:30]: So now we're saying [6:07:31, 6:07:34]: Staff recommendation the public works department is requesting approval to renew. [6:07:35, 6:07:36]: The contract. [6:07:36, 6:07:38]: That's one of the staff recommendations. [6:07:39, 6:07:41]: We're referencing what the contract number is. [6:07:41, 6:07:44]: And we're asking them at the council to approve the renewal. [6:07:45, 6:07:48]: That's one of the staff recommendation. We're still under staff recommendation. [6:07:49, 6:07:50]: The next paragraph. [6:07:50, 6:07:51]: It says. [6:07:51, 6:07:55]: Public Works Department is also requesting that the annual contract amount [6:07:55, 6:07:58]: For landscaping maintenance increased by fifty thousand. [6:07:58, 6:08:02]: To accommodate the modified scope as stated by Dacious. [6:08:02, 6:08:03]: Um Mr. Erwin. [6:08:04, 6:08:10]: And to include the additional areas. We're still under the staff recommendation. So basically now. [6:08:10, 6:08:21]: We're saying that once we do, once if you were to approve that recommendation, the contract would be the overall contract amount will no longer be 200. [6:08:22, 6:08:23]: Um and fifty thousand. [6:08:24, 6:08:29]: Right, we're telling you that it will be three hundred thousand under the staff recommendation. [6:08:29, 6:08:34]: And then we just go ahead and reference that the contract is for one year. So it's so you're being mindful. [6:08:35, 6:08:39]: And then we state what the contract is for. So the first page where it says. [6:08:40, 6:08:43]: Background information basically already done. [6:08:43, 6:08:46]: The staff recommendation, this is what we're asking for. [6:08:47, 6:09:00]: Okay, Ms. Mayor Ford, looking at the first page of the staff recommendations, the action that staff is asking for, it says staff is asking for contract approval and renewal. [6:09:01, 6:09:04]: Then it says the action requested by city council. [6:09:05, 6:09:07]: It's misleading because it makes us think that [6:09:08, 6:09:09]: Staff is requesting. [6:09:10, 6:09:30]: The approval to renew this contract when in fact we are. Yes, yes, we are. Yes, ma'am. It is a one-year contract. So it's right. Well, that's the issue that um, as as stated in the previous conversation, that's the issue that um the attorneys are saying that they are taking the legal position. [6:09:30, 6:09:50]: That because it was September, that it goes through September. What I did for best practices is I looked at the state code, which is what we work under. And the state code says fiscal year. Our fiscal year is through December. The state attorney's legal opinion is that whenever it's [6:09:50, 6:10:10]: executed that it needs to go to the um next year. What I did was best practice and follow the state code. And basically when you look at the RFP, when you look at the agreement, the agreement reads the parties shall negotiate prices increase if any for 12 month renewal [6:10:10, 6:10:21]: per term renewal action. This is the actual agreement that I'm reading. And if you continue reading it, it says the terms and conditions following the terms and conditions of the RFP. [6:10:22, 6:10:33]: For the landscape needs and exhibits attached to Arvest RFP number 20210004, which means that this contract includes. [6:10:35, 6:10:37]: This RFP and whatever is in [6:10:37, 6:10:52]: This RFP pertains to this contract. So what the agenda says is that this is the background. And what we're asking for is the renewal and the modification of the contract. As stated. [6:10:53, 6:11:04]: The legal advice is that whenever it's signed, it goes for a year. What I said was that whatever legal has advised, procurement will follow and we will not go by the state code. [6:11:04, 6:11:11]: Well, there is a project detail from Yellowstone that clearly says the contract effective date. [6:11:11, 6:11:13]: It's October first of twenty twenty one. [6:11:14, 6:11:19]: And the contract expiration date is September thirtieth of twenty twenty two. [6:11:19, 6:11:23]: Right. I under yes, I understand that. [6:11:24, 6:11:27]: That's what I'm going by. Yeah, point of border. [6:11:27, 6:11:41]: Sir, I asked to speak next. Oh no, no, you didn't. Actually, Mr. Thomas is next, actually. I'm just doing that. I've had my hand up on the beginning. No, no, Mr. Thomas is next. Stand by. Maybe for it. Go ahead, sir. [6:11:41, 6:11:47]: I'm I'm not going to to that extent, even though Councilwoman Barb is correct. [6:11:48, 6:11:54]: This is my contention right here. And if we can sort of focus on this, I think we can finalize this. [6:11:54, 6:11:57]: September the twenty eighth. [6:11:58, 6:12:00]: Twenty twenty one. [6:12:00, 6:12:05]: Yep, this contract came before us with a scope of work. [6:12:06, 6:12:09]: And it included the scope of work. [6:12:09, 6:12:13]: And we approve of that for$250. [6:12:14, 6:12:16]: More than fifty thousand dollars. [6:12:17, 6:12:20]: Now it is coming back to us again. [6:12:21, 6:12:25]: asking for an a hundred a hundred and fifty thousand [6:12:25, 6:12:28]: For a scope of work. [6:12:28, 6:12:39]: that we have already approved now if you add two hundred and fifty thousand and a hundred and fifty thousand they said it was fifty thousand not a hundred and fifty thousand [6:12:40, 6:13:00]: 250,000 and 150,000. That comes up to 400. I don't even know what 300,000 came from. So if you add those two figures, it's 400,000. And in one of the documents, it taught it indicates 400,000. I don't know what 300,000 came from, but this is my point. And I think this is what we just need to do. [6:12:59, 6:13:02]: On September the twenty eighth. [6:13:03, 6:13:05]: Twenty twenty one. [6:13:05, 6:13:10]: We approved a scope of work that was inclusive. [6:13:11, 6:13:14]: Of all of the areas that I read. [6:13:14, 6:13:21]: And we approve of that contract for$250,000. That's what we approved. [6:13:21, 6:13:23]: Here tonight. [6:13:25, 6:13:28]: You're trying to come back with another contract. [6:13:29, 6:13:33]: to include the same scope of work that we approve. [6:13:34, 6:13:38]: And you want an additional hundred and fifty thousand. That's my issue. [6:13:39, 6:13:42]: That's my issue right there. Go back to [6:13:43, 6:13:49]: the minutes of September the 28th and you will see where this was approved. [6:13:49, 6:13:51]: That's the only point I'm trying to make. [6:13:51, 6:13:54]: Um, Dacius, would you like to speak to the scope of work? [6:13:54, 6:13:55]: No both. [6:13:56, 6:14:00]: Hold on. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. [6:14:01, 6:14:05]: Okay. I just I I want some clarifications and w this is what I wanna [6:14:06, 6:14:10]: Does anybody even care that Yellowstone is doing a great job? Very good job. They are. [6:14:11, 6:14:13]: They're doing a fantastic job. [6:14:14, 6:14:18]: That's what I want to focus on, the result. They're doing an amazing job. [6:14:19, 6:14:23]: Let's start right there. Now, okay, I want clarification on this. [6:14:24, 6:14:24]: Is it? [6:14:25, 6:14:30]: Fifty thousand dollars more or a hundred and fifty thousand dollars more, which one is it? [6:14:30, 6:14:49]: 150. No, it's she's saying you saying 150, she's saying the total contract is 300. Which one is it? Can the attorneys tell me the difference? Can somebody give me the right number? Now, if it's 150,000, that's a big deal. If it's 50,000, it's understandable. What is the number? [6:14:50, 6:14:56]: We're talking apples and oranges. Is the number 50,000 more or 150,000 more? [6:14:57, 6:15:10]: Darren, it was 50,000 more. And as I said, there was some additional services requested. You wanted to go from but it I know that. Is it 50,000 more or 150,000? [6:15:10, 6:15:27]: Um, he's saying that it's fifty thousand. Um, there is a typo in the second paragraph where it says one hundred and fifty thousand, but it should be fifty thousand, which brings it which brings it to an overall amount of three hundred thousand. [6:15:28, 6:15:35]: And this should have a title for$150,000. Come on. [6:15:35, 6:15:55]: Okay, okay. This is all we have first page. This is all we have to go on is Mr. Thomas, please. Get the let's get the attorneys in here. What does the contract dollar amount specify? Is there a typo in that line or not? Let's not get caught up on if somebody made a mistake or not. [6:15:55, 6:16:05]: Is there is the it it what Jeremy and Quentin is the overall effect it it somebody need to correct it if there's a hundred and fifty thousand dollar mistake. [6:16:05, 6:16:09]: That's terrible. Who i you do y'all have the contract in front of y'all? [6:16:12, 6:16:27]: Because if it's fifty thousand dollars more, that's a whole lot of different. That's what I'm trying to understand. One side is said 150,000, one side is saying fifty. If she says there's a typo, what is it? I need the number so I can decide. [6:16:29, 6:16:38]: Can I just mention something? I don't want to argue about who right or who's wrong. What is the right number? No, don't go figure out. Hold on a second, Mary Potem. [6:16:38, 6:16:50]: The right number is$300,000. When the city puts in that requisition for the purchase order for 2022, it would be a purchase order for$300,000 to Yellowstone. [6:16:50, 6:17:02]: So that that information you get is is an internal form. And that was a typo made on it. And but we know what the actual number is$300,000. It's not$400. [6:17:03, 6:17:23]: Because when we came back and added the public works building, even though we had it in the original scope, the landscaping hadn't been installed. That was a placeholder. So when the landscaping finally got installed, we met with Yellowstone at the Public Works Building. They gave us a price on that, in addition to the additional services for Pine Street. [6:17:23, 6:17:24]: Straw. [6:17:24, 6:17:31]: And that's why we increased the amount to cover the public works building and the additional visits for the pine straw. [6:17:32, 6:17:36]: I think the issue here is that you told us uh originally. [6:17:36, 6:17:39]: І за амфітеатр возінь. [6:17:39, 6:17:43]: And now I think that's kind of drawing some contention is that the amphitheater [6:17:44, 6:17:47]: appears to not be concluded, but what you're saying is that [6:17:47, 6:17:48]: The frequency [6:17:48, 6:17:52]: The amphitheater was included in in the other scope. [6:17:52, 6:17:54]: But in actuality, it's the frequency. [6:17:55, 6:17:56]: That increased [6:17:56, 6:17:58]: Uh in order to [6:17:58, 6:18:11]: do greater to to change out or to give greater services to that. But yes, sir. I just want uh you said you verified the three hundred thousand. The attorneys have you verified the three hundred thousand that's what this contract says. [6:18:15, 6:18:16]: Working on that now. [6:18:16, 6:18:18]: Okay, why the one? [6:18:18, 6:18:21]: What right, right. That's what I need to know to make [6:18:21, 6:18:23]: My decision cause I'm telling you. [6:18:23, 6:18:25]: They're doing a fantastic job. [6:18:26, 6:18:46]: And I don't want them to get caught into this mistake or whatever we got uh in order. It it's it's worth the amount of money. If it's fifty thousand dollars more, it's worth the fifty thousand dollars more because of the work that they're doing. And they'll be able to change out the pine straw in front of Stark Bridge Elementary, all of these different buildings. It'll make all of us look better. [6:18:46, 6:19:01]: better uh in the long run. But if it's 150,000, no, that ain't cool. So let's let's get that number out. Okay. All right. Mr. Thomas. Jeremy, it's on the second paragraph. Mayor Ford, you recognize me. Go ahead, Mr. Thomas. Mayor Pro Tem. [6:19:01, 6:19:05]: That that's your contention. Now this is my contention. [6:19:05, 6:19:08]: If I had not brought this up tonight. [6:19:09, 6:19:11]: We would have been approved. [6:19:12, 6:19:31]: An additional hundred and fifty thousand dollars. All we have as a council is what staff presents to us. And I have underlined here in the book that I that I was presented, it says right here in black and white. [6:19:32, 6:19:43]: The public works department is also requesting that the amount that the annual contract amount for landscaping maintenance increase. [6:19:44, 6:19:45]: By a hundred [6:19:45, 6:19:48]: And fifty thousand dollars. [6:19:49, 6:19:54]: I agree. You're right. Male Pro Tem. [6:19:55, 6:19:57]: This is unacceptable. [6:19:58, 6:20:04]: Because if I had not said anything tonight, we would have been approving. [6:20:05, 6:20:25]: 250,000 back in September the 28th, and tonight we would have been approved an additional hundred and fifty thousand with a total of four hundred thousand dollars. That is unacceptable for me, and I would not I would not vote for this tonight. We agree with that because it's not about the job that they're doing. [6:20:24, 6:20:35]: doing. Somebody has to look out for the interest of the city. And we hire staff to look out for the best interest of the city. And that did not happen in this case. [6:20:35, 6:20:40]: I think like she said, uh Miss Councilwoman Barber said is that there should have been some oversight. [6:20:40, 6:20:42]: Before and I think [6:20:42, 6:20:54]: You know, legal has to look in the middle of the study and be like what happened is that they missed the error too. So did they get it or not? No, but it i is it an error though? It's the error calling it out. [6:20:55, 6:20:56]: Hold on, too many people speaking. [6:20:57, 6:21:03]: All right. Um let's back up for a second. Hold on, Mr. Blount. Stand by. No, my resolution is too thick. [6:21:04, 6:21:17]: You're you you got two fifty on the resolution. Is that what you're saying, Mr. Quinn? All right. I'm we're looking at this now. We're looking at this now because I wrote the resolution. I take the what I take is what is presented to me off the agenda form. [6:21:17, 6:21:22]: or these after reviewing the contract and I ask for the contract because I always put exhibit a [6:21:23, 6:21:25]: based on the contract that they send me. [6:21:25, 6:21:26]: So [6:21:26, 6:21:26]: We have [6:21:27, 6:21:31]: on what I have, but I'm confirmed with Jeremy because he would have looked at the actual [6:21:31, 6:21:32]: Pure man. [6:21:32, 6:21:33]: Contract. [6:21:34, 6:21:39]: I write the resolutions asking him because I have on my resolution this in y'all's packet to me. [6:21:41, 6:21:43]: 'Cause that's what was submitted to me. [6:21:43, 6:21:45]: And we have for documentation for it. [6:21:45, 6:21:51]: But these other amounts, that's what I'm trying to ask him about. But I'll put mine on me. [6:21:51, 6:22:01]: Uh may Mayor, may I speak? Yeah, yeah, go ahead, Ms. Okay. I I'll just like to read the um section. It says um the public works department is also requesting that the annual contract amount [6:22:01, 6:22:16]: For a landscape maintenance increased by 150,000, as as Councilman Thomas um repeated, to accommodate the modified scope of services, which will include the additional buildings as uh Dacia stated. And then it said that um [6:22:16, 6:22:20]: The two banners and the historical markers for an estimated [6:22:20, 6:22:29]: for an S for an annual estimated overall contract amount of$300,000. And then on the first page of the actual agenda. [6:22:29, 6:22:36]: It says that the amount that count that the amount that council is proving is three hundred thousand dollars. [6:22:37, 6:22:39]: I just wanted to state that for the record. [6:22:39, 6:22:40]: All right, Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [6:22:41, 6:22:42]: Mayor, you know [6:22:44, 6:22:49]: We was told just just a while ago and and I would agree with Ms. Alexander, I mean that [6:22:49, 6:22:57]: For what I see around City Hall versus what we had been getting, it's like night and day. It's a bit I I'm I'm I'm proud to pass the buildings now. [6:22:58, 6:22:58]: Um [6:22:59, 6:23:06]: But they just said, Mr. Dacious and and procurement just said that under the the internal contract. [6:23:06, 6:23:08]: Has the amount. [6:23:08, 6:23:10]: Of three hundred thousand dollars. That's [6:23:10, 6:23:11]: Going [6:23:11, 6:23:13]: Two Yellowstones. [6:23:14, 6:23:18]: If there's a type or anything going, hey, you c we caught it. We caught this. [6:23:19, 6:23:26]: But that's not what internally contracted with Yellowstone is being said and been said several times, three hundred thousand dollars. [6:23:27, 6:23:30]: A fifty tausend dollars increase. [6:23:30, 6:23:50]: For services. What we're sitting here, we're arguing and going back and forth all, you know, it's getting late back and forth on this. Okay, you caught it, you got it. Hey, good catch. But they've already said the increase is$50,000. It's in writing$50,000. Jeremy just, uh Mr. Quentin just said he wrote a resolution for [6:23:50, 6:24:05]: They just ran off. It's only a$50,000 increase. We're either either gonna approve it or we're not, or we're gonna sit here and say, hey, what could have happened? But internally, it was only gonna be$300,000 and only a$50,000 increase. [6:24:06, 6:24:09]: So we're arguments hard on one end when [6:24:09, 6:24:13]: internally the contract is only gonna be three hundred thousand dollars. [6:24:14, 6:24:20]: All right, so I need I need a motion then on this asking. Mayor Ford, if I may. [6:24:20, 6:24:24]: Mirror. Okay. So if it was a mistake. [6:24:25, 6:24:37]: Where is it in this packet that we received tonight? Where is the contract language? Is it in this packet tonight where we could see that it's actual an additional 50,000? [6:24:38, 6:24:39]: Yeah, I thought she read that earlier. [6:24:40, 6:24:42]: I'm I'm talking about what we receive. [6:24:42, 6:24:49]: Okay, I'll let the council I'll let the attorneys read the way the contracts work. Um no [6:24:49, 6:24:55]: Let me let me prevent the information that we receive to study. [6:24:55, 6:24:58]: Is it in our packet for us to study and read? [6:24:58, 6:24:59]: Yes. [6:25:00, 6:25:01]: When I submit [6:25:02, 6:25:02]: Well if it [6:25:03, 6:25:05]: Let me would you like me to respond, sir? [6:25:05, 6:25:25]: No, I I just want to know is it in the packet that we received? Okay. So um on the agenda that I provided. Yes or no. Just yes or no. Come on, man. Nobody's on trial here. Come on, man. You know who gotta explain it? Oh man, you gotta have better control. I have the floor. Why are you [6:25:25, 6:25:32]: Horror phone. Hollering the loudest doesn't make it a bad Mayor. Right there doesn't make it through the bear. [6:25:32, 6:25:52]: Yes. Stand by, please. Stand by. Stand by everybody. Anyone stand by. Hold on. Do I have the floor? No. No, no, you don't. I have the floor right now. Stand by. Oh, stand by. Now listen, I believe I believe Miss Miller mentioned that I believe you said yes this is question. [6:25:52, 6:25:57]: Is that correct, Ms. Miller? [6:25:57, 6:26:02]: I I do feel Can you answer it a yes or can you answer it a yes or no? Because it's not a yes or no question. [6:26:03, 6:26:09]: What it's not a yes or no answer. I I do feel though that I am being bullied and attacked. [6:26:09, 6:26:16]: And um I do like to would like to state that for the record. However, let me um go ahead and um [6:26:16, 6:26:20]: Answer the question basically on the agenda. [6:26:20, 6:26:22]: As I stated and as I read. [6:26:23, 6:26:24]: It does show. [6:26:25, 6:26:31]: The agenda, which is what it which was what prepared, along with the actual contract agreement. [6:26:31, 6:26:40]: There would not be another amendment until after council approves it. So you would not have another contract. [6:26:41, 6:26:47]: what you have and that's why i asked for legal to provide their response because it's how contracts work [6:26:47, 6:26:52]: You have a contract that was approved by counsel back in September. [6:26:53, 6:26:53]: What [6:26:53, 6:27:02]: What the public works director is asking for is to increase and modify the existing contract. [6:27:02, 6:27:22]: That is 250,000. He's asking to exist it based on the modification of the scope of work. So you wouldn't, legal would not create another contract. What you would do is take your resolution once council has approved it and amend the existing contract. [6:27:22, 6:27:38]: after it's approved. So you wouldn't have a backup document, another contract that says 300,000, because you're amending the existing contract. And I'll ask legal to go ahead and add to the legal advice of that. [6:27:38, 6:27:39]: Okay. [6:27:40, 6:27:46]: Right. Does the legal have anything else to say on this that's right. I mean that's correct. And ordinarily when there's a renewal [6:27:46, 6:27:49]: The procurement department just sends like a one paragraph [6:27:50, 6:27:52]: One pager that just says the contract has been renewed. [6:27:53, 6:27:56]: And then we would change the scope in any cost terms as well. [6:27:57, 6:27:58]: All right. [6:27:59, 6:27:59]: All right. [6:28:00, 6:28:05]: All right, Miss Barber, we'll make this the last comment. We need to move on because we got plenty more to still do. [6:28:05, 6:28:15]: Yes. Thank you, Mayor. Um, I'd like for us to move on from this. There's no action for the council to take. Furthermore, Mayor Ford, I want to ask. [6:28:15, 6:28:17]: During our meetings. [6:28:17, 6:28:19]: This is an opportunity for the governing body. [6:28:20, 6:28:22]: To discuss the items on the agenda. [6:28:23, 6:28:25]: Oftentimes we kind of [6:28:25, 6:28:31]: blur the lines when we invite staff into the governing bodies discussions. [6:28:31, 6:28:34]: All we need is for staff to present the items. [6:28:34, 6:28:35]: Present the items. [6:28:35, 6:28:37]: And allow the council. [6:28:37, 6:28:39]: To discuss them. [6:28:39, 6:28:40]: Debate them. [6:28:40, 6:28:43]: So that staff doesn't get offended. [6:28:43, 6:28:44]: But [6:28:44, 6:28:46]: the heated arguments going back and forth. [6:28:47, 6:28:52]: I appreciate you, Ms. Miller, for your input into this discussion. However, [6:28:52, 6:28:55]: I'm looking at the staff recommendation form, David. [6:28:55, 6:28:57]: December thirteenth. [6:28:58, 6:29:03]: And just looking at the staff recommendation forms, it clearly says [6:29:04, 6:29:06]: contract approval and renewal. [6:29:07, 6:29:09]: is misleading. It also has the amount of [6:29:10, 6:29:11]: Four hundred thousand dollars on here. [6:29:12, 6:29:13]: It's all misleading. [6:29:14, 6:29:16]: I've asked for the fully executed. [6:29:17, 6:29:19]: Counter sign contracts. [6:29:20, 6:29:21]: That's not included here. [6:29:21, 6:29:29]: We need the fully executed contract and not all the other information and all the other minutiae. [6:29:29, 6:29:33]: Too much details here, which is why it's important. [6:29:33, 6:29:35]: For the city attorneys. [6:29:35, 6:29:42]: To review these. This is conversations that the attorneys and staff should have before it comes to the governing body. [6:29:43, 6:29:51]: Council member, I have reviewed this, and you've previously asked for the RFPs. So the RFPs have been included in here, and I have reviewed this. [6:29:52, 6:29:58]: Thank you, sir. But I'd like for us to just move on from this item. There's no action for the council to take at this time. [6:29:59, 6:30:01]: We know that even with the [6:30:02, 6:30:03]: added services that [6:30:04, 6:30:05]: Miss Miller mentioned. [6:30:06, 6:30:26]: Um it's for the amphitheater. Well, we still have time. This contract is still way accurate. We got fifty thousand dollars more than services. I'm I'm that's my thought. I thought that it has to be increased by fifty thousand dollars to handle everything. It goes three hundred thousand. I'm not trying to make this personal [6:30:26, 6:30:29]: If I can finish, I don't see any indication. [6:30:30, 6:30:33]: Um of a request for fifty thousand dollars. So I'd like for us to table it. [6:30:33, 6:30:37]: table it and bring us back a clean agenda with [6:30:37, 6:30:45]: the item description that staff is looking for the council to take action on. So I make a motion that we table this. [6:30:45, 6:30:52]: um until then asked for a motion there um don't talk over me i'm not finished i like to make a motion [6:30:52, 6:30:57]: that we table this and direct staff to bring us back. [6:30:57, 6:30:59]: Um the information. [6:31:00, 6:31:01]: For the fifty thousand dollars. [6:31:03, 6:31:04]: Is there a second to the motion? [6:31:05, 6:31:06]: Is there a second to the motion? [6:31:08, 6:31:18]: Mr. Blount, what is your motion? That we approve. Hold a second. Hold on please. Mr. Thomas, you second that motion? [6:31:19, 6:31:23]: You you s I don't have no choice but to second'cause this is incorrect. [6:31:24, 6:31:28]: Stand by Mr. Blount. All right. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [6:31:31, 6:31:32]: I'll pose. [6:31:33, 6:31:35]: I'll pose the motion, please indicate. [6:31:36, 6:31:37]: Abstain. [6:31:37, 6:31:38]: Thursday. [6:31:39, 6:31:47]: Ms. Blount, you miss Mr. Blount, you sustain? Yes. And Mr. Pro Mayor Proton, you sustain as well. I'm going to stay from this vote. [6:31:47, 6:31:52]: Okay. Yeah, I like to make the most tip. [6:31:52, 6:32:01]: I'd like to make the motion to approve the contract for the amount of$300,000. Okay. Only the$50,000 increase. [6:32:02, 6:32:06]: So I like to approve the contract for three hundred thousand dollars. [6:32:06, 6:32:06]: No. [6:32:07, 6:32:10]: With with only that three hundred thousand with only that fifty thousand dollar increase. [6:32:11, 6:32:13]: Okay, the motion's been made. Is there a second? [6:32:13, 6:32:15]: I have a question. [6:32:15, 6:32:25]: What's your question? Miss Miller, have you acknowledged that you made a mistake on this contract and that the total amount is three hundred thousand and that that was the initial attempt? [6:32:26, 6:32:39]: Yes, the initial intent is 300,000 and the increase is 50,000 for the additional scope of services. Mr. Ayer, is this scope of work necessary in order to get the level of um [6:32:40, 6:32:45]: services that we have um aspired to uh in in the city. [6:32:46, 6:32:56]: Yes, sir. As I mentioned earlier, this includes additional services as well as the public works building because when this was awarded, that landscaping had not been completed. [6:32:57, 6:32:57]: So [6:32:59, 6:33:01]: And and your intent was to have this to be [6:33:02, 6:33:13]: uh uh uh three hundred thousand dollars. If that was the initial intent that you discussed with Miss Miller that it was gonna be three hundred thousand dollars. That was the intent of y'all communication between the two of y'all. [6:33:14, 6:33:15]: And Mr. Knighton, yes it was. [6:33:16, 6:33:18]: And Mr. Knight can verify this as well. [6:33:19, 6:33:23]: He's not online, sir. Well I'm sure he could at some point if we reached out to him. [6:33:24, 6:33:32]: So you said Mr. Knight was involved in discussion, you was involved in discussion, Lindell was involved in the discussion, is that correct? Yes. [6:33:34, 6:33:46]: On the motion made a second. Yes, sir. Uh Mrs. Ms. Councilwoman Barber made a motion. I a second. What what was the vote on that? The vote was uh two two for and two abstain. [6:33:47, 6:34:03]: And and as you well know, Miss you and Miss Barber understand the option of abstain abstentions. I can't I I I just no I I just didn't know what to vote. I never did hear that and I couldn't really see. But just can I when my final comment says a motion has been made and I guess we're discussing, is that correct? [6:34:03, 6:34:15]: Well motion made and we are in discussion now, but emotion had we we can be in discussion, sir, but motion has been made to make this contract three hundred thousand dollars. Oh made in a second. I just want to make a comment because see. [6:34:15, 6:34:18]: I'm not questioning the work of Yellowstone. [6:34:19, 6:34:22]: I'm trying to hold folks accountable. [6:34:22, 6:34:24]: Because that's important to me. [6:34:25, 6:34:29]: If I had said if I had not said anything tonight. [6:34:29, 6:34:31]: What would we have approved? [6:34:32, 6:34:35]: See and and those are the issues that I have. [6:34:35, 6:34:36]: No. [6:34:36, 6:34:38]: If I had not said anything. [6:34:39, 6:34:42]: Was this gonna come to our attention say, okay, a mistake I've been made? [6:34:43, 6:34:50]: That's the only problem that I have with it. It's not about the work of Yellowstone. It's about the documents. [6:34:51, 6:34:55]: that we get as a council to be able to make decisions. [6:34:56, 6:35:00]: And if the and we cannot rely on the information [6:35:01, 6:35:06]: And we cannot rely on the information in this big old book here. [6:35:06, 6:35:10]: What what do we have to make an inform? [6:35:10, 6:35:11]: Correct. [6:35:12, 6:35:18]: Decision if we cannot depend on this and where's the check and balances? [6:35:18, 6:35:21]: So and if I had not mentioned this tonight. [6:35:22, 6:35:27]: W were we going to pay Yellowstone$400,000? I question that. [6:35:29, 6:35:49]: All right. Anyway, so the motion's been made, been hold on one second. Answer that question, the attorney has said that the contract calls for three hundred thousand dollar payment. So they wouldn't have been paid four hundred thousand dollars. It was a mistake or a typo in the contract. Is that correct? Now that's my understanding. But we have not seen it. [6:35:49, 6:35:50]: We don't know. [6:35:51, 6:36:00]: Uh Mr Mr. Uh Jeremy, is that the case that no matter what happened in this situation, they would have been paid three hundred thousand dollars based on. [6:36:01, 6:36:02]: Correct. [6:36:02, 6:36:17]: Right. Okay. That's what my contention is, is that I I agree with you, Councilman Thomas, and everything that you said, but I don't want this vendor to get caught in the middle of this dispute, which is it's not their fault that the staff made an error. [6:36:18, 6:36:21]: Because and then Mr Mr Mr Aaron has said [6:36:22, 6:36:22]: That uh [6:36:23, 6:36:28]: He talked to Lindell and they talked about this and the number that they talked about was 300,000. [6:36:28, 6:36:32]: The effect in the end is that they made a mistake. [6:36:32, 6:36:52]: And somebody has acknowledged that they made the mistake. I just heard a video of Miss Lindell said she acknowledged that they made the mistake. Now this mistake it shouldn't happen again because we've had we just caught this. We can't have this type of work take place in the city. But in the end, this is this is we we this was a staff error that should have never happened. [6:36:52, 6:36:55]: Mereford, if I had not called this out. [6:36:55, 6:37:01]: we would have we would we this council would have never known about this that's the point i'm trying to make you're right [6:37:02, 6:37:06]: Well the motion's been made, been a second. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [6:37:09, 6:37:20]: Mr. Blount, what's okay? Three. Uh Mr. Thomas, you of uh you're no ten. I vote I vote no. You vote no? Okay, and Miss Gantt. [6:37:22, 6:37:26]: Anyway, motion passes uh three one. [6:37:28, 6:37:30]: Three one. All right. It passes three one. [6:37:32, 6:37:42]: All right. Uh request for proposal RFP number twenty twenty one-zero zero zero eight. Annual on-call sidewalk repairs and replacement. Once again. [6:37:42, 6:37:44]: Miss Miller and Mr. Aaron. [6:37:46, 6:37:48]: Good afternoon once again, Mayor and Council. [6:37:49, 6:38:09]: Um uh the City of Stockbridge procurement division is requesting approval to award a fixed contract to the single bidder DAF Concrete RFP number 2021 for the City of Stockbridge annual on-call sidewalk repairs and replacement in the estimated annual amount of$150,000. [6:38:09, 6:38:09]: Yes. [6:38:12, 6:38:12]: Okay. [6:38:13, 6:38:15]: Ms. Aaron, do you have anything you need to add? [6:38:15, 6:38:33]: Yes, Mr. Mayor. In 2019, the city had an updated uh street assessment done and one of the requests was to have sidewalks as a part of that assessment. So we went in and had sidewalks assessed and the sidewalks are rated and ranked according to their conditions. [6:38:33, 6:38:38]: And the city wants to get into a program of replacing and repairing sidewalks. [6:38:38, 6:38:39]: And [6:38:40, 6:38:44]: You could either hire the skill or contract for the skill. [6:38:44, 6:38:50]: based on conversation with other municipalities and doing salary surveys for what a good concrete [6:38:50, 6:38:54]: Finisher with cost, we found that it was cheaper to. [6:38:54, 6:39:14]: contract out the replacement and repair of sidewalks in the city. So there are numerous sidewalks in the city. We'll do it similar to the LMIG. We'll have a specific length of sidewalk that we replace every year going forward. So we'll have a crew that can come out and and do these in an expeditious manner so that we get them done and completed. [6:39:14, 6:39:14]: Yeah. [6:39:15, 6:39:18]: All right, any questions, uh counsel? [6:39:19, 6:39:20]: Questions, concerns? [6:39:21, 6:39:24]: And if not, I need a motion to accept this particular proposal. [6:39:26, 6:39:33]: Is there a motion? Yes, sir. Uh Mr. Aaron, you say it's similar to the LMAX, but how how is that determination going to be made? [6:39:33, 6:39:35]: through staff or whoever's gonna be doing it. [6:39:35, 6:39:39]: Is based on the rankings from the sidewalk assessment. [6:39:39, 6:39:40]: All right. [6:39:40, 6:39:43]: The side of the side was will be placed on [6:39:43, 6:39:44]: The list. [6:39:46, 6:39:47]: I motion would approve it, man. [6:39:48, 6:39:53]: You you okay make you're making a motion to approve, Mr. Blount. Is there a second? I'd second. [6:39:53, 6:39:57]: Ms. Barber Seconds, any further discussion? And if not, all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [6:39:59, 6:40:05]: Okay, if a four uh confirmed with four black passing votes. Um [6:40:05, 6:40:10]: Miss Holliday, I guess uh Miss uh Gantt has departed. I don't see her on here. [6:40:11, 6:40:28]: And I have no idea. She was not present for the last item maintenance. Okay. All right. Okay. What's next? We have uh the request for proposal, RFP number 2020-0025, janitorial maintenance services, intercontinental commercial services. Ms. Miller and Mr. Aaron, please. [6:40:29, 6:40:36]: Uh uh Mayor Council, I think that was one that we decided not to go with, or are we going forward with it? I'm confused. [6:40:36, 6:40:39]: This is the one that that does inspire in in April as well. [6:40:39, 6:40:43]: This is the one with the legal opinion by the attorney. [6:40:43, 6:40:44]: Yeah, we can move on. [6:40:46, 6:40:48]: So we're not we're not dealing with this one right now, tonight. [6:40:49, 6:40:50]: All right. [6:40:50, 6:41:08]: 17 we took off number 18 request for proposal RFP number 2021-0001P Omnia Partners Public Sector Prince Williams Public Schools contract number RT 17006 and Amazon Services LLC [6:41:08, 6:41:10]: Mr. Wiggins and Miss Miller. [6:41:11, 6:41:30]: Yes, um the finance department um uh is requesting approval to piggyback the um Omnia Partners Public Sector, which is a cooperative contract which was solicited um by numerous government entities. And they're asking the contract once awarded was awarded to Amazon. [6:41:30, 6:41:40]: The city is asking to piggyback that contract in order to utilize the contract and get better pricing as the cooperative allows. [6:41:40, 6:41:41]: And um [6:41:41, 6:41:46]: With Amazon. This contract as it is awarded by the cooperative. [6:41:46, 6:41:50]: Is for uh three year. I do apologize, um. [6:41:50, 6:42:07]: It it's through Jan 2022 with the option to renew for three additional two one year periods. The city is asking to increase this contract, which was approved initially by the city manager for 25,000. [6:42:07, 6:42:15]: So we're approaching it for$75,000, which gives it an overall contract value of$100,000. [6:42:17, 6:42:17]: Okay. [6:42:19, 6:42:23]: Um council, any questions, concerns about this uh proposal? [6:42:26, 6:42:29]: Mr. Wiggins, your name is on us. You got any additional comments, sir? [6:42:30, 6:42:33]: No, I don't have any additional comments. [6:42:33, 6:42:36]: All right, council, I need a uh motion to approve this uh proposal. [6:42:39, 6:42:43]: So move there. All right, okay. So move, Mr. Blount. Thank you. Is there a second? [6:42:45, 6:42:46]: Is there a second? [6:42:47, 6:42:48]: Sorry. [6:42:48, 6:42:49]: Mr. Mayor Pro Temp Seconds that. [6:42:50, 6:42:53]: I would imagine no further comments. So all in favor of motion, please indicate. [6:42:56, 6:42:58]: Uh Paul this this [6:42:59, 6:42:59]: All opposed? [6:43:00, 6:43:08]: All right, if it's if it's two to two, I've I approved it. So I might I'll be the third vote to approve this. Okay. Three to two. Excuse me. [6:43:09, 6:43:15]: Mayor Ford, I'd like to add a comment just for the record. All right. It passes three, two. Um uh Ms. [6:43:15, 6:43:20]: Vanessa Holliday and Miss Barber, you have a comment. Go ahead, please. [6:43:21, 6:43:24]: Mayor Ford, if I could correct the vote. What do you mean? [6:43:25, 6:43:28]: Um I I was slow. I actually voted in favor. [6:43:30, 6:43:35]: But I was just slow, but I just wanted to go on record to say I I voted in favor. [6:43:36, 6:43:36]: Okay. [6:43:37, 6:43:57]: All right. Add a comment if I may. So let me get this straight now. We okay, we had two two, so we I need to take a revote on this. Is that is that what we need to do here? It's it passed, man. Well it did pass. I'm just trying to uh it did pass. I mean, I mean it put it on the voted for it, so basically [6:43:57, 6:44:13]: Mayor Ford, I was distracted. Um, I I thought I heard someone knock at my door, so I really wasn't listening. And I I turned my head and and the vote went through and I was trying to raise my hand actually to to abstain. [6:44:14, 6:44:23]: Cause I just didn't hear any of the conversation. So I I just apologize for that. But let me just go on record and just abstain. And then I'm sure it's still gonna pass. [6:44:25, 6:44:38]: No, no, it's it then we gotta mayor he if if if you already close okay I'll tell you what the vote is already taken the vote's already taken votes already taken it passed three to two miss barber your your comment please [6:44:38, 6:44:44]: Yes, according to the staff recommendation, it says the initial term of this contract. [6:44:44, 6:44:46]: Shall be from the date of the award [6:44:47, 6:44:48]: January nineteenth. [6:44:49, 6:44:50]: Twenty seven teen. [6:44:51, 6:44:52]: through January eighteenth. [6:44:53, 6:44:54]: Oh, twenty twenty two. [6:44:55, 6:44:57]: With the option to renew. [6:44:57, 6:44:59]: For three additional [6:44:59, 6:45:01]: Two year periods. [6:45:03, 6:45:05]: I'm opposing because. [6:45:06, 6:45:08]: These kind these types of contracts. [6:45:08, 6:45:10]: With the multi year [6:45:11, 6:45:13]: Contracts to renew this again. [6:45:14, 6:45:15]: It's going to [6:45:15, 6:45:16]: Um [6:45:16, 6:45:19]: This will be a six-year contract. [6:45:21, 6:45:22]: So we'll be [6:45:22, 6:45:25]: I don't know, the sixth or seventh year before it goes back out. [6:45:26, 6:45:26]: To be [6:45:26, 6:45:27]: Rebid it again. [6:45:28, 6:45:29]: And I do not like. [6:45:30, 6:45:36]: renewing and extending contracts with these multi year terms. That's all. [6:45:36, 6:45:42]: Okay, noted, well noted. Number nineteen, may I just um just to clarify? [6:45:42, 6:45:43]: Um [6:45:43, 6:45:49]: This is a cooperative contract. This is not a contract which was bid out by the city. [6:45:49, 6:45:54]: So the terms of this contract was generated by the co-op. [6:45:54, 6:46:06]: meaning it was generated by Prince William's public school contract system and we're just asking to use their contract. So the term is something that we cannot control. [6:46:06, 6:46:09]: And when we decide [6:46:10, 6:46:16]: That we don't need to renew italize it, we don't have to, but we're just asking to piggyback. [6:46:16, 6:46:31]: their contract terms and conditions, which we cannot change because when we piggyback, it's based on the terms and conditions by this company, by this co-op. So we cannot control their terms of the contract. We just don't have to use it. [6:46:32, 6:46:51]: Okay, thank you. Let's move on. Workers Compensation Policy, WCB 103338. Excuse me, one is one zero three three three eight. JC Smith Linear and Company Brokers Renewal presented by Miss Miller and Miss Wheeler, who's still on the line. Outstanding. [6:46:51, 6:46:52]: Ladies, please. [6:46:53, 6:47:13]: Good afternoon, once again, Mayor and Council. The Human Resources Department is requesting approval to renew the workers' compensation policy for J. Smith Lanier, policy number WCB 1033338, which was approved by council on December 22nd, 2020. [6:47:13, 6:47:20]: Of the actual proposal was submitted. And with that being said, I'll have Renee to go ahead and explain the workers' compensation. [6:47:22, 6:47:29]: The workers compensation proposal submitted to mayor and council is to renew uh workers' comp. [6:47:30, 6:47:32]: Um, for this city. [6:47:32, 6:47:33]: to offer [6:47:33, 6:47:35]: um insurance and [6:47:36, 6:47:37]: Um [6:47:39, 6:47:42]: Well being for the employee if there's a workplace injury. [6:47:43, 6:47:45]: This is presented by Jay Smith Lanier. [6:47:45, 6:47:48]: They have gone out to contract, uh gone out to bid. [6:47:49, 6:47:51]: Or w really not to bid, but to the market. [6:47:52, 6:47:54]: Um, this is a fair renewal. [6:47:54, 6:47:57]: We've received a twenty percent discount on our premium. [6:47:58, 6:48:02]: Um we are using encova insurance as the [6:48:02, 6:48:08]: company that will handle our workers comp claims through them. We didn't have any claims last year. [6:48:08, 6:48:15]: due to the COVID 2020, but they came back and decreased the premium to us for this year. [6:48:16, 6:48:21]: So I'm asking council's approval of this professional services agreement and [6:48:21, 6:48:23]: Compensation insurance. [6:48:24, 6:48:25]: Yes, Miss Barber. [6:48:25, 6:48:36]: Mayor Ford, I like to well, quick question. Um Ms. Wheeler, um, is this the first um renewal or extension that you're requesting? [6:48:40, 6:48:43]: This is a renewal for January first, twenty twenty two. [6:48:44, 6:48:47]: Is this the very first renewal that you're requesting? [6:48:47, 6:48:49]: For this particular [6:48:51, 6:48:52]: Contract. [6:48:53, 6:49:01]: It's not a contract, it's an agreement, a professional services agreement. It's an agreement. It's the first renewal you're requesting for this agreement. [6:49:03, 6:49:04]: For this year. [6:49:05, 6:49:07]: Yes, it it was signed last [6:49:07, 6:49:08]: Of twenty twenty. [6:49:09, 6:49:09]: Okay. [6:49:10, 6:49:14]: Mayorford, I will make a motion to approve this. Um [6:49:15, 6:49:17]: I'll make a motion to approve this. [6:49:18, 6:49:19]: Um renovable. [6:49:19, 6:49:22]: Okay, is there is there a second Ms. Miracle second that? [6:49:22, 6:49:24]: Okay, all in favor, please indicate. [6:49:27, 6:49:32]: Okay, all four of you appreciate that. Thank you for your comments, Mr. Berry. Thank you, Miss Wheeler. It is approved. [6:49:33, 6:49:46]: Okay, we'll move on. Council consideration approved the purchase of 40 mobile data data terminals terminals, MDTs, printers, and associated equipment for police patrol vehicles. Chief Tramor. [6:49:46, 6:49:47]: Marty. [6:49:49, 6:49:50]: Let's go, Tree. What you got? [6:49:51, 6:49:56]: Yeah. Well we are at the uh we are at the end of the rope here, so um [6:49:58, 6:49:59]: Yeah. [6:49:59, 6:50:14]: Uh well I I had some things that I wanted to share with you, but uh I think everybody's probably ready to hop off here. Um and so just for the sake of brevity and and the time that we've already spent here, uh let me just uh we'll get down and dirty on this. Um [6:50:14, 6:50:21]: We are looking uh to purchase 40 mobile data terminals and uh associated [6:50:21, 6:50:28]: equipment to which would be docking stations basically to secure those computers inside the patrol vehicles along with um [6:50:28, 6:50:48]: uh pocket jet printers to print out citations and any other paperwork the officers would need to print out in the vehicles. Uh the cost for those 40 computers, and I believe this is associated or attached with uh the information it um was associated with uh this agenda item a total cost$132,295 and twenty cents. [6:50:49, 6:50:55]: Uh the funding source for this would be uh ARPA. It would be associated equipment again that um [6:50:56, 6:50:57]: Is um [6:50:57, 6:51:00]: For the vehicles, the police vehicles. [6:51:00, 6:51:08]: And um I wanted to let y'all know that uh Mr. Wiggins had provided an update regarding the current ARPA funding balance. [6:51:08, 6:51:09]: Mm-hmm. [6:51:09, 6:51:09]: The [6:51:10, 6:51:30]: uh police department uh purchases that have already been um authorized via ARPA funds, as well as outstanding public works uh projects. Uh the balance uh ARPA funding balance is one million three hundred and twenty seven thousand dollars. So less than one hundred thirty two thousand two ninety five it would [6:51:29, 6:51:47]: uh leave our remaining balance for this year. And that does not include the additional five and a half million that would be coming in next year, but leave the remaining balance at$1.1 million in ARPA funding from now until we receive that additional money. [6:51:48, 6:51:49]: So um [6:51:50, 6:52:10]: This is uh on uh the these Panasonic computers are on state contract, and the state contract uh that was referenced, I believe that was uh attached as well. It was the state of Georgia in user computing contract, and that contract number uh was identified there. And so I'm seeking approval for again$132,295.20 for the [6:52:10, 6:52:16]: purchase of those computers. Just to make sure everybody's aware, this also has been uh uh [6:52:17, 6:52:24]: uh vetted through IT uh since it is IT purchase. So I I I would I would like to thank or hope that [6:52:24, 6:52:27]: Um there are no questions about this. [6:52:28, 6:52:30]: Well I'll ask the question. Early questions, counsel. [6:52:32, 6:52:35]: All right, no questions. I need a motion to accept his proposal. [6:52:35, 6:52:36]: So moon. [6:52:36, 6:52:37]: Is there a second? [6:52:40, 6:52:42]: From Mare Pro Temp to who? What a second. [6:52:45, 6:52:49]: Oh, okay. I can't second it, folks. So who's gonna second this? [6:52:50, 6:52:53]: Oh Miss Barber. Fantastic. This is a second. [6:52:53, 6:53:04]: All right, so I imagine there's no further conversation. So all right, yeah, I heard we got some police cars in. Is that true? Well you're gonna you're gonna make you you're gonna make out there. [6:53:04, 6:53:07]: I am gonna call for the vote. All in favor of motion, please indicate. [6:53:08, 6:53:14]: Okay, now okay, he just put him up there. I'm as soon as four of you because I can't [6:53:14, 6:53:16]: Yeah, okay. Uh [6:53:17, 6:53:32]: Okay. Whoa, these are all police vehicles. Whoa, okay. Sure. Is Mr. Blount on online? I vote. I my vote is yes if you can't. I I I saw you, sir. I saw you, Mr. Thomas. May I'm trying to hear the uh what was the what was the uh [6:53:33, 6:53:47]: What was the motion? The motion to accept uh uh tree pre trammer's uh proposal was 132,000 plus to purchase this I IT equipment for the mobile for all the vehicles that he needs. That's from the author funding? Yes, sir. That's correct. [6:53:47, 6:54:07]: So you you're you're approval of that. Is that is that well? Is that right? Yes. Okay. So you allow him to approve it after the votes have all been taken, but you wouldn't allow Councilman Thomas. Hey, well, I'm I'm the mayor right now. I can't right now. I'll approve the mayor. No problem. Four. Four four people approved this. Okay. All right. Now listen, uh, on that note. [6:54:07, 6:54:12]: Did you wanna show this for you got this briefing up there? Did you wanna go further with that chief? Is that what's happening here? [6:54:12, 6:54:23]: No, we're making some progress. One of the things that I did want to mention, uh just just for council consideration here, is that um we still have a lot of purchasing to do between now and implementation. [6:54:24, 6:54:29]: And the way that the current uh procurement uh policy is written, and I believe there's a resolution that was made. [6:54:30, 6:54:36]: by Mr. Knighton, uh, was that any purchase over twenty five thousand dollars needs to come before council for consideration. [6:54:36, 6:54:43]: Uh between now and April when many of these purchases are needed to be made, we're we're looking at about eight council meetings and so [6:54:43, 6:54:56]: There's some concern as to um, especially with uh agenda timelines and so on and so forth, about getting all these things before the council um in a timely manner for them to uh for you all to consider that. [6:54:57, 6:55:07]: There's been some discussion and one of the things I wanted to mention, I spoke with um a friend of mine. I believe you are acquainted with him, Chief uh uh Grogan with Dunwoody Police Department. [6:55:07, 6:55:12]: And when they were starting up the Dunwadi Police Department, there was an emergency, uh there was a waiver. [6:55:12, 6:55:15]: Uh for um uh [6:55:15, 6:55:23]: Public safety purchases for a limited period of time in order to allow them to move forward quickly with the acquisition of the equipment that's needed. [6:55:23, 6:55:41]: And so it's something that I know that that perhaps you all uh are not wanting to discuss right now, but something that uh we would like to discuss in the future in terms of how we may be able to accomplish that. One of the things, and I know we've uh I've spoken with Mayor Ford in his capacity of city manager as well as Ms. Mr. Berry. [6:55:41, 6:55:44]: And uh as well as Miss Miller, um [6:55:44, 6:55:49]: That um most of the the purchases that we're gonna have to make are over that twenty five thousand dollar threshold. [6:55:49, 6:55:54]: which would necessitate in would which would necessitate them coming before the council. [6:55:54, 6:56:08]: However, we know what it is that we need. So say for instance, we know we're gonna need ammunition at roughly fifty thousand dollars. We know we're gonna need weapons at about sixty thousand, sixty to seventy thousand. We're gonna need um a a number of items that we can give. [6:56:08, 6:56:13]: And which we did present when we went over the uh capital startup costs. [6:56:13, 6:56:33]: So uh was hoping to to get some sort of uh maybe resolution before the council in the future to grant a limited approval for certain police department startup costs not to exceed a specified amount so that we can move forward with these uh in a timely fashion. Again, not circumventing any procurement processes. I'm confident that many of the things [6:56:33, 6:56:53]: Things that uh we need, we will be able to procure uh off of state contract or uh through piggybacking or uh other uh approved means that would not require us to put these items out the bid. But I do have some concern if if, especially with this time frame and the council only meeting twice a month, us being able to get all the associated. [6:56:53, 6:57:00]: Documentation and everything to council for approval over the next couple of months. So just something to consider. [6:57:01, 6:57:02]: Yeah, uh Mayor Protein, go ahead, please. [6:57:03, 6:57:09]: Yeah, Chief, rest assured we're thinking uh in that aspect and once we have our new city manager. [6:57:09, 6:57:11]: uh in house that we [6:57:11, 6:57:14]: We certainly can give the new city manager the latitude. [6:57:15, 6:57:31]: uh to move forward with these police purchases. So I would think that would probably be the avenue uh that we would use uh and and giving the new city manager discretion uh in order to uh move these forward versus um uh delaying the process so [6:57:31, 6:57:35]: I think uh if we get the person that we think we may get. [6:57:35, 6:57:39]: then this person might uh will be empowered to do a lot of things. So [6:57:40, 6:57:45]: Uh let's just uh let's just wait and see. But we're not gonna slow you up. We're gonna make sure it works for you. [6:57:46, 6:57:56]: And I I got an additional comment to that. Uh in the meantime, I would think counsel those things that he needs to be approved in can still come to me and I can get them done and we can move it forward. [6:57:56, 6:58:00]: Absolutely. Absolutely. Any uh anything else, Chief? [6:58:01, 6:58:13]: Is that it? No, that's it. I did want to give y'all so you can kind of see we came up with a conceptual design for the police vehicles. Um, this is kind of I know it's a little rough, but this is uh what we anticipate they'll look like. [6:58:13, 6:58:26]: Um if you can see there, we'll implement some of the branding element from the city's current logo into those vehicles. Those stripes will basically be reversed to look more along the lines of the Stockbridge logo, but um [6:58:26, 6:58:31]: This is what we envision the vehicles will look like when we get them fully outfitted and and and striped out. [6:58:32, 6:58:32]: Outstanding. [6:58:33, 6:58:33]: Okay. [6:58:33, 6:58:36]: I don't know, we might have to talk about that, see. [6:58:36, 6:58:36]: Mm-hmm. [6:58:38, 6:58:39]: Yeah. [6:58:39, 6:58:40]: Yes, sir. [6:58:40, 6:58:41]: Chief. [6:58:42, 6:58:45]: Yes, sir. Is that the actual law? Is that the [6:58:45, 6:58:48]: Is it gonna is it gonna be blocked like that? [6:58:49, 6:59:05]: No, no, no. That was that was that was covering up uh the uh this is this is a scheme that's uh that's utilized by the Toronto Police Department. And so we had looked at a number of different um uh options and uh had some discussion amongst our uh our team. [6:59:05, 6:59:11]: And uh we're actually working with uh graphic designer right now to come up with a couple of mock-ups for the vehicle. [6:59:12, 6:59:16]: Uh but I did want to share with you all just kind of conceptually um what we're what we're looking at. [6:59:17, 6:59:17]: So [6:59:19, 6:59:25]: Maybe yes, sir. Well, could is it possible that you might be able to provide us with a couple of [6:59:26, 6:59:30]: examples or maybe so the council can have some input on what they look like. [6:59:34, 6:59:39]: Or will there be a couple of different designs or you tell me? I mean, there are gonna be a couple of different options we can look at. [6:59:43, 6:59:55]: Yeah, we can present uh if if if you have some ideas, uh feel free to shoot them over our way. Uh I mean if you right, if you're working with a designer, then maybe they could do a couple of different options. [6:59:56, 7:00:02]: uh for us to you know to look at. I mean there I just if we could that that would be great. [7:00:04, 7:00:05]: Okay, we'll see what we can do. [7:00:06, 7:00:07]: Anything else? That's it? [7:00:08, 7:00:12]: But but not up not up to me. How about the rest of the council? Y'all wanna have input or no? [7:00:14, 7:00:15]: Well uh [7:00:15, 7:00:17]: For me, uh Chief, I think that [7:00:18, 7:00:29]: I think whatever you see, Chief, you're gonna probably look at two or three that you're gonna say, Hey, uh uh, I could go with either one of those. And if that's the case, then I'm fine with the council taking a look at it. But if you see one that you actually [7:00:30, 7:00:35]: Wanna go with, you know, I I I think the discretion is on you for you know, far as I'm concerned. [7:00:35, 7:00:41]: Uh uh I don't know, you know, I don't know, I don't know how this worked at all. So [7:00:43, 7:00:54]: Yeah. Personally I feel confident that the chief will come up with a great great the logo, great, great way to put it on the cars. You know, so I I I mean, I I look forward to him coming up with a good design, him and his team, personally. [7:00:56, 7:00:57]: Anybody else? [7:00:59, 7:01:08]: Um I'm sure I'll be satisfied with any logo other than the cabin logo that he's been using with the train and [7:01:08, 7:01:10]: Certain tree. [7:01:11, 7:01:30]: Anything else y'all are y'all are hating on my designs and I'll tell you this, we wanted to be a little different. We wanted to to have our department a little different than everybody else, which is why we went with the carbonized gray. Uh as you the typically you see a lot of black. Henry County's got silver. So we wanted something that stood out. And then I'm a traditionalist, which is why I like the uh the two-tone. [7:01:30, 7:01:33]: uh on the vehicles. That's that that's kinda got some history in it. [7:01:34, 7:01:38]: And we were working in the striping because we wanted to incorporate some element of the um [7:01:39, 7:01:43]: some element of the city's branding uh in the vehicle that doesn't have to be included. [7:01:44, 7:01:48]: But the lettering there we found some old historical pictures um [7:01:49, 7:01:59]: uh in in in that's basically the font set for the uh city of stockbridge vehicles that uh would was was uh part of the [7:02:00, 7:02:10]: um original department and uh i could share that footage there i don't know we want to go there sheep they would just span uh cheap if if if you don't mind cheap [7:02:10, 7:02:22]: Don't do that. We we we kind of like to get away from that old uh I I I I I I I got you, but you know what as a country we have a storied past and um you know we just we take it taking a [7:02:22, 7:02:25]: Take it taking all things into consideration, but uh it [7:02:26, 7:02:30]: You know, fr I guess from the shoulder pads to the cars. I mean y'all y'all [7:02:30, 7:02:32]: Maybe I'll get get uh [7:02:33, 7:02:36]: Y'all need to be on the design committee, um and uh [7:02:36, 7:02:43]: shoot us some ideas to take a look at and we'll certain we certainly will. I promised Councilwoman Barber we wouldn't go with the ugly patch. [7:02:43, 7:02:50]: And then uh Mayor Pro Tem, it sounds to me like you're not filling the vehicle. So if you have uh you have some ideas. [7:02:50, 7:02:51]: Uh shoot'em my way. [7:02:52, 7:02:53]: Yeah. [7:02:53, 7:02:54]: All right, thank you, sir. [7:02:55, 7:03:15]: Appreciate it. All right. Chief, obviously, as you well know, we swore you in uh to be our chief of police on September twentieth. And I know we're all very proud of the fact that uh you have now had your nucleus of your leadership team on staff that we swore on on uh Monday, the December uh sixth. So we're moving in the right directions. So we added with you, of course. [7:03:15, 7:03:35]: Of course, Commander Richard Godfrey, if I got it right, Commander Glenn Calish, Lieutenant Commander Ron Mor Mormon, and Lieutenant Commander Anton Pop Paton, if I got it all pronounced right. And so uh fantastic. And we're moving move making the right moves here. Uh so I have a di I do have additional comments, but I would imagine I'll we probably just need to return to meeting. [7:03:35, 7:03:36]: What do you think, huh? [7:03:36, 7:03:37]: You ready? [7:03:39, 7:03:48]: Wow. Motion to adjourn. So move. Okay. I was going to say motion. I was asked to adjourn me. Okay. Motion to adjourn. Mayor Protect. [7:03:48, 7:03:50]: Remember 10 made a motion. Is there a second? [7:03:51, 7:03:53]: A second. All right. All fair please indicate. [7:03:54, 7:03:55]: Yes, he nails. Good night. [7:03:56, 7:03:57]: You know.

--- title: Main Street Advisory Board Meeting date: 2021-12-10 source: 2021-12-10_Main_Street_Advisory_Board_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:02, 0:00:03]: Okay. [0:00:04, 0:00:06]: Fantastic. Thank you, Kira. [0:00:06, 0:00:20]: Um good morning again, everyone. Uh, we would like to call our December 2021 uh Main Street Advisory Board meeting to order at 910 AM Seasons Greetings. Yay! [0:00:20, 0:00:20]: Right. [0:00:20, 0:00:34]: Happy Hanukkah, Merry Christmas, Happy Kwanzaa, uh, whatever it is that your heart celebrates, we are with you and happy that you are here with us. All right, so we're gonna go ahead and get started with um. [0:00:34, 0:00:47]: Um let's actually read our mission statement first and then we'll move on to roll call in regards to our agenda to allow for any additional board members to be able to join us. [0:00:48, 0:00:48]: Okay. [0:00:49, 0:00:52]: Any volunteers? If not, I'll be happy to read it. [0:00:53, 0:00:54]: No one's [0:00:55, 0:00:57]: Lisa. Yeah. Thank you, Miss Lisa. [0:00:59, 0:01:02]: Let me get my mute together here. [0:01:02, 0:01:19]: Okay, the Stockbridge Main Street program's mission is to design and support an identifiable downtown historic district that promotes economic vitality, cultivates artistic expression, encourages cultural enrichment, and nurtures community spirit. [0:01:21, 0:01:23]: Thank you very much, Miss Lisa. [0:01:24, 0:01:27]: Um, for all you do, not just reading our mission statement today. [0:01:28, 0:01:31]: Okay, we will move on to roll call. Um [0:01:31, 0:01:37]: Uh when you hear your name, please indicate uh you are present by just saying here present. [0:01:37, 0:01:38]: Uh Miss Camacho. [0:01:41, 0:01:42]: Miss Finley? [0:01:42, 0:01:43]: Present. [0:01:44, 0:01:44]: Thank you, ma'am. [0:01:45, 0:01:46]: Mr. Furch? [0:01:47, 0:01:48]: Present. [0:01:49, 0:01:50]: Thank you, sir. [0:01:51, 0:01:52]: Miss Gibson? [0:01:54, 0:01:56]: Mr. Hopkins. [0:01:56, 0:01:57]: Present. [0:01:57, 0:01:58]: Thank you, Star. [0:01:59, 0:02:00]: Mr. Horton. [0:02:01, 0:02:02]: Present. [0:02:02, 0:02:03]: Thank you, sir. [0:02:04, 0:02:05]: Miss Jones? [0:02:08, 0:02:11]: Miss Potts, I am present. Miss Reed? [0:02:15, 0:02:19]: Thank you. [0:02:19, 0:02:23]: Here, I ended up on your excuse me one moment. [0:02:23, 0:02:27]: I'm in the net with my name on your your site when I logged in. [0:02:28, 0:02:31]: Yes, that's fine. Uh we'll just make a note that [0:02:32, 0:02:37]: It's you and not my not my double ganger over there in the corner. [0:02:37, 0:02:39]: Okay, so that's still okay, okay, thank you. [0:02:40, 0:02:40]: Mm-hmm. [0:02:41, 0:02:45]: Thank you, ladies. Uh Miss Richardson. [0:02:47, 0:02:49]: And Councilman Thomas. [0:02:50, 0:03:08]: Okay. We presently have a quorum and we will move forward with our meeting. And if any additional members join in, we will acknowledge their presence. With that being done, we'll move on to agenda item number two, which is to review and approve the meeting agenda. [0:03:08, 0:03:10]: Um again, well [0:03:11, 0:03:21]: All of your meeting information was sent to you prior to our gathering today or uh meeting today, so that you can review and be prepared for the meeting. [0:03:21, 0:03:23]: So um in that [0:03:24, 0:03:26]: If we can um have [0:03:26, 0:03:28]: A moment to pull that up. [0:03:29, 0:03:36]: And then we ask for an approval of the agenda as presented, or if there's a need for discussion, so please bring it forward. [0:03:42, 0:03:47]: Okay, hearing none, can I please have a motion to accept the agenda as present as written? [0:03:49, 0:03:54]: Adam T, I move I move that we accept the December 10th, 2021 meeting meeting agenda as presented. [0:03:55, 0:04:01]: Thank you, Mr. Hopkins. And I have a second from Mr. Firch. Thank you. Um [0:04:01, 0:04:10]: Can everyone see the screen? Well, I have one participant that is unable to show herself at this time. So we'll just go through um the uh [0:04:11, 0:04:17]: By roll call, acknowledging if you um accept the the the motion that's on the floor. [0:04:18, 0:04:22]: And it looks like Ms. Jones will be joining us in just a moment. [0:04:24, 0:04:25]: Hello, Miss Jones. Good morning. [0:04:26, 0:04:27]: Come morning. [0:04:28, 0:04:32]: All right. We are um we have had a [0:04:33, 0:04:34]: Um [0:04:34, 0:04:39]: proper motion and second of the agenda being accepted as presented. [0:04:39, 0:04:40]: Um [0:04:41, 0:04:42]: Miss Finley. [0:04:45, 0:04:45]: Yeah. [0:04:45, 0:04:46]: Yes. [0:04:47, 0:04:47]: Thank you, ma'am. [0:04:48, 0:04:49]: Mr. Furch. [0:04:51, 0:04:52]: Yes. [0:04:52, 0:04:53]: Thank you, sir. [0:04:54, 0:04:55]: Mr. Hopkins. [0:04:56, 0:04:56]: Yes. [0:04:57, 0:04:59]: Thank you, sir. Mr. Horton. [0:05:00, 0:05:01]: Yes. [0:05:01, 0:05:04]: Thank you, sir. Ms. Jones, are you able to [0:05:05, 0:05:11]: Yes. Thank you, ma'am. Potts, yes. Miss Reed. Yes. [0:05:12, 0:05:27]: Thank you. All right. The motion has been moved and and and we are moving on. I'm sorry, has been approved and we will move on to the review and approval of the meeting minutes from our November 2021 minute meeting. [0:05:28, 0:05:30]: Um again it's information and [0:05:30, 0:05:32]: has been sent to you prior to our meeting today. [0:05:33, 0:05:35]: Um hopefully we've had an opportunity to review it. [0:05:36, 0:05:44]: Uh we will allow for a moment to see if there is a need to make any amendments to it as presented. [0:05:45, 0:05:49]: Any discussion or need to make amendments. [0:05:50, 0:05:56]: Do we um amend like grammatical um errors or typos and stuff like that? [0:05:56, 0:05:57]: Yes, it is. [0:05:58, 0:05:59]: Oh, okay. [0:06:00, 0:06:01]: Um [0:06:04, 0:06:05]: On page two. [0:06:06, 0:06:07]: Okay. [0:06:08, 0:06:12]: um in the housekeeping items under board terms. [0:06:13, 0:06:18]: Wouldn't that be um at the end as the stated deadline has passed P A S S E D? [0:06:22, 0:06:22]: Yes. [0:06:28, 0:06:36]: And then um in the next paragraph for the advisory board meeting format um [0:06:36, 0:06:40]: It looks like that was more of a computer um era. [0:06:40, 0:06:47]: Whereas if they would like the it to remain virtual or start meeting in person, I feel like is where that what was supposed to be there. [0:06:49, 0:06:50]: Yes, I see it. [0:06:55, 0:06:59]: And the spacing is off weird. So yeah. Mm-hmm. [0:07:00, 0:07:00]: That [0:07:01, 0:07:03]: That's the way we think about computers. [0:07:03, 0:07:04]: Okay. [0:07:05, 0:07:11]: We'll check out we'll get that checked. Mildred, did you see that as well? I'm looking at that now. Uh okay. [0:07:11, 0:07:17]: But I wanted to hear her statement, something about to remain as virtual or start meeting as [0:07:17, 0:07:19]: In person. [0:07:19, 0:07:26]: Oh in person, okay. Yeah. Remain virtual or start meeting in person is what probably needs to be there. Right, okay. [0:07:28, 0:07:29]: And then um [0:07:30, 0:07:36]: under the project updates were for the section with the alleyway project. [0:07:36, 0:07:40]: Meeting with Falcon engineers for a follow up, I think. [0:07:40, 0:07:41]: Yeah. [0:07:42, 0:07:46]: And then uh this item will be taken up with the business owners. [0:07:48, 0:07:49]: Okay. [0:07:51, 0:07:51]: Thank you. [0:07:52, 0:07:54]: Thanks. There was one more. [0:07:55, 0:07:55]: Oh. [0:07:55, 0:07:56]: No, that's fine. [0:07:57, 0:08:08]: Okay. Um in the last section with the small business blitz um after November twenty twenty one where it says be sure to stay tuned. Um wouldn't that be with the D? [0:08:10, 0:08:11]: Um [0:08:12, 0:08:13]: It tuned. [0:08:15, 0:08:20]: Wait a minute. Um which page? I'm sorry. Oh, I see on this page. Yeah, I'm going to do it. I moved to [0:08:20, 0:08:24]: Yeah. So yeah, I see it. I see it. [0:08:25, 0:08:27]: Mm-hmm. And then um [0:08:28, 0:08:31]: Greg's name has two G's the second time. [0:08:32, 0:08:33]: Yeah. [0:08:35, 0:08:37]: Available on all streaming platforms today. [0:08:39, 0:08:41]: That was all. Okay. [0:08:42, 0:08:45]: Thanks for having me. I'm still uh [0:08:45, 0:08:49]: So getting ready, I just dropped the curl off. [0:08:50, 0:09:03]: Thank you, ma'am. Thank you so much. Yes, for identifying those. And um that makes us feel fantastic because we know that they're the m minutes and agendas are actually being read. So thank you. [0:09:04, 0:09:10]: Fantastic. All right. Any other uh noted corrections needed? [0:09:12, 0:09:21]: Okay, hearing none, can we please have a motion to accept our November meeting minutes with noted corrections? [0:09:22, 0:09:25]: Yes, I'll ver I'll motion that. [0:09:25, 0:09:28]: Thank you, Ms. Finley. And can we have a second, please? [0:09:30, 0:09:37]: I'll second that. Second. Oh, go ahead. Um, let the record show Miss Linda Jones will second it. Thank you, Mr. Furch. [0:09:37, 0:09:44]: All right, we and welcome Councilman Thomas to well meeting. We will move on with our um [0:09:44, 0:09:47]: Voting for this um motion. [0:09:47, 0:09:51]: Uh so we will begin with Ms. Finley. In favor? [0:09:51, 0:09:53]: Or not. Yeah. [0:09:53, 0:09:55]: Thank you, Mr. Firch. [0:09:55, 0:09:56]: Yes. [0:09:57, 0:09:59]: Thank you, Mr. Hopkins. [0:09:59, 0:10:00]: Yes. [0:10:01, 0:10:02]: Thank you, Ms. Jones. [0:10:03, 0:10:04]: Yes, yes. [0:10:04, 0:10:04]: Mm. [0:10:05, 0:10:06]: Thank you. [0:10:06, 0:10:10]: Um, I'm gonna abstain because I wasn't present for that meeting. [0:10:10, 0:10:11]: Miss Reed? [0:10:11, 0:10:12]: Yes. [0:10:12, 0:10:15]: And thank and thank and thank you, Ms. Finley, for [0:10:16, 0:10:17]: Assisting me. [0:10:18, 0:10:20]: With these corrections. [0:10:20, 0:10:20]: Yeah. [0:10:23, 0:10:35]: Ms. Richardson, welcome to the meeting. Um uh we will move on and ask Mr. Uh uh Councilman Thomas if he is in favor of accepting it the minutes as presented. [0:10:36, 0:10:37]: Yes. [0:10:37, 0:10:42]: Thank you. Ms. Richardson, um, you have just joined, so I don't think it would be in best um [0:10:43, 0:10:50]: uh taste to request that you vote on this particular motion, but the motion does um [0:10:52, 0:10:53]: Carrie with [0:10:55, 0:10:57]: Madam Chair, I'll vote yes as well. [0:10:57, 0:11:01]: I'm sorry. So sorry, Mr. Horton. Thank you. [0:11:02, 0:11:10]: With seven in favor and two abstaining. Thank you. There was a little movement going on on the screen, so I apologize for that, sir. [0:11:11, 0:11:30]: All right, we will move on to our next agenda uh area or mo um item, which is the review and approval of the financial statement that has been presented as well. Um any questions or need for discussion for the approval of the uh financial statement. [0:11:30, 0:11:32]: For November. [0:11:36, 0:11:40]: Um, I did have a comment for the financial statement. [0:11:40, 0:11:41]: Yes, ma'am. [0:11:41, 0:11:47]: Okay, um you all might notice that the copy rental um [0:11:49, 0:11:54]: Amount is at negative nine hundred and thirty six dollars and forty four cents. [0:11:54, 0:11:55]: Um [0:11:55, 0:12:01]: I think I mentioned this before, but I just wanted to make sure that I noted this again that [0:12:01, 0:12:04]: 'cause the amount keeps getting higher and higher. [0:12:04, 0:12:07]: Um from our last financial statements. [0:12:07, 0:12:10]: That when the budget was created. [0:12:10, 0:12:14]: This particular um expense was not. [0:12:14, 0:12:20]: known or at least not um calculated properly for the Main Street program. [0:12:20, 0:12:21]: So um [0:12:22, 0:12:26]: We did get some new copiers in the building and um I think that [0:12:27, 0:12:35]: That is a reflection of the new equipment being installed in the building. So our share of the copier expense. [0:12:35, 0:12:40]: Went up and was not calculated in our original um budget creation. [0:12:40, 0:12:45]: So that is not something that we are just doing an overrun of copies or anything like that. [0:12:45, 0:12:52]: It is just that it was not properly calculated at the beginning. And I think that this is the situation with [0:12:52, 0:12:57]: All of our departments that use the um particular copiers here in [0:12:57, 0:12:58]: First floor. [0:12:59, 0:13:00]: In City Hall, so [0:13:01, 0:13:01]: Um [0:13:01, 0:13:04]: I didn't want anybody to think that Lisa and I are. [0:13:05, 0:13:06]: Printing books over here. [0:13:07, 0:13:10]: As far as the copies are concerned, that is just something that [0:13:11, 0:13:13]: In our next budget, and we just had a budget meeting. [0:13:14, 0:13:15]: Um [0:13:15, 0:13:16]: Єстей [0:13:17, 0:13:18]: Uh we have [0:13:18, 0:13:20]: contemplated or at least programmed. [0:13:21, 0:13:25]: about twelve hundred dollars there. So I think that that will cover us next year. [0:13:25, 0:13:29]: And we won't have this same um deficit reflected on our financial statement. [0:13:33, 0:13:41]: Thank you so much. Was there additional um conversation or discussion? [0:13:44, 0:13:52]: Okay, no. Hearing none, can we please have a motion to accept the agenda? I'm sorry, accept the financial statement for November 2021 as presented. [0:13:57, 0:14:00]: Uh madam chair, I've [0:14:01, 0:14:04]: I motion that we accept the um financial statement. [0:14:04, 0:14:08]: With the with the correction, with the comment from Ms. Braggs. [0:14:09, 0:14:11]: Okay. Thank you for that. [0:14:12, 0:14:15]: Extremely fine. Let's read we have a second. [0:14:15, 0:14:15]: A second. [0:14:16, 0:14:17]: Thank you, Mr. Furch. [0:14:18, 0:14:21]: Uh the uh motion has been properly [0:14:22, 0:14:23]: Uh [0:14:23, 0:14:32]: Presented, moved, and seconded. So we would like to go ahead and vote on this and see where the chips lie. All right, Miss Finley. [0:14:36, 0:14:36]: Yes. [0:14:37, 0:14:39]: Thank you, ma'am, Mr. Firch. [0:14:39, 0:14:40]: Yes. [0:14:41, 0:14:43]: Thank you, sir. Mr. Hopkins. [0:14:45, 0:14:48]: Hold on one second. Yes. [0:14:49, 0:14:51]: Oh thank you, sir. Mr. Horton. [0:14:52, 0:14:52]: Yes. [0:14:53, 0:14:56]: Thank you, sir. Ms. Jones? Yes. [0:14:58, 0:15:02]: Thank you, ma'am. Potts, yes. Ms. Reed? Yes. [0:15:03, 0:15:06]: Thank you, ma'am. Miss Richardson. Yes. [0:15:07, 0:15:10]: Thank you, ma'am. And Councilman Thomas. [0:15:10, 0:15:11]: Yes. [0:15:11, 0:15:22]: Thank you so much. And we now move our meeting over to our Main Street manager for her report, Ms. Fraggs. [0:15:22, 0:15:29]: Good morning again, everyone, and thank you all for being here. Um, I echo um [0:15:29, 0:15:36]: Ms. Potts Mrs. Potts comments earlier, um, extending holiday greetings to everyone here. [0:15:37, 0:15:42]: And I just wanted to make sure that you all received [0:15:42, 0:15:45]: A late document, and I apologize for it being late. [0:15:46, 0:15:49]: This morning I sent you all a copy of [0:15:49, 0:15:50]: The proposed [0:15:51, 0:15:51]: Um [0:15:51, 0:15:56]: Twenty twenty two Main Street Advisory Board meeting calendar. [0:15:56, 0:15:59]: So if you have access to your computers [0:15:59, 0:16:04]: Um be sure to um check that out. But I am going to share my screen. [0:16:05, 0:16:08]: Just so that you all will be able to see it. [0:16:09, 0:16:16]: Um at least I hope I'm gonna share my Ms. Braggs, before you continue, just want the record to reflect that um [0:16:17, 0:16:20]: Ms. Gibson has joined the meeting. Welcome, Ms. Gibson. [0:16:20, 0:16:21]: Okay. [0:16:21, 0:16:22]: Hi. [0:16:23, 0:16:29]: All right, I'm gonna go on and share my screen. Just one other thing. I don't think that we recognized Mr. Peterson. [0:16:29, 0:16:30]: Um [0:16:30, 0:16:32]: As a visitor in the meeting. [0:16:33, 0:16:42]: Yes, thank you. Welcome, Mr. Peterson. We are so happy that you're able to join us today. I I apologize for that uh miss at the start of our meeting. [0:16:43, 0:16:46]: Oh, it it it it's okay. Good morning, everyone. [0:16:47, 0:16:48]: Uh Madam Chair. [0:16:49, 0:16:50]: Yes, sir. [0:16:50, 0:16:52]: This is Councilman Thomas. [0:16:52, 0:16:57]: I was not present for the roll call, but please let the minute reflect that uh I am present. [0:16:58, 0:17:08]: Yes, sir. We have acknowledged that you are present as well as Ms. Jones and Ms. Richardson, who also were not present during real call. Thank you. [0:17:08, 0:17:10]: Okay. Thank you for that. [0:17:11, 0:17:15]: All right, I'm gonna go on and share my screen so you all can see the document. [0:17:15, 0:17:19]: Are you all able to see our proposed meeting schedule? [0:17:20, 0:17:25]: Yes, ma'am. Okay. Um as we have been meeting for the past um year. [0:17:26, 0:17:34]: Our meeting will be on the second Friday of every month, unless that date falls on or within a nationally [0:17:34, 0:17:37]: or City of Stockbridge recognized holiday. [0:17:38, 0:17:38]: And [0:17:39, 0:17:46]: Those cases, the meeting will be held on the following Friday or on another date deemed suitable by the Main Street Advisory Board. [0:17:46, 0:17:50]: program manager and or the Main Street Advisory Board. [0:17:50, 0:17:53]: The meeting may also be held on an alternate suitable date. [0:17:54, 0:17:55]: By a majority vote. [0:17:55, 0:17:58]: Of the board and with proper notice to the public. [0:17:59, 0:18:06]: Um board meetings will be held via Zoom video conference at nine AM unless otherwise determined. [0:18:06, 0:18:08]: by the program manager and or board. [0:18:09, 0:18:13]: Prior to COVID nineteen, all meetings were held at the Stockbridge City Hall. [0:18:14, 0:18:16]: And downtown Stockbridge. [0:18:16, 0:18:18]: Once all ковід restrictions are lifted. [0:18:19, 0:18:23]: By board vote, the meetings will again resume at City Hall. [0:18:24, 0:18:30]: In the instance of an alternative date, time andor meeting location, a public notice of this change. [0:18:31, 0:18:33]: Will be posted at Stockbridge City Hall. [0:18:33, 0:18:38]: And posted on both the cities and the Main Street program social media outlets. [0:18:38, 0:18:41]: All meetings are open to the public. [0:18:41, 0:18:41]: But [0:18:42, 0:18:46]: 2022 Main Street Advisory Board meeting schedule is as follows. [0:18:46, 0:18:50]: And um you all should be able to see. [0:18:50, 0:18:52]: You cannot move it down a little bit. [0:18:53, 0:18:54]: Gotta move you all over. [0:18:55, 0:18:55]: Right. [0:18:57, 0:18:58]: Yeah. Uh oh. [0:19:01, 0:19:02]: Can you all see it still? [0:19:04, 0:19:05]: Yes. Okay. [0:19:05, 0:19:09]: So those are the dates, and they all fall on the second. [0:19:09, 0:19:15]: Friday of um each month. I think we have avoided all of the um [0:19:15, 0:19:17]: Мейджор холидаї. [0:19:17, 0:19:19]: And um [0:19:19, 0:19:22]: We should be okay with regard to the meeting schedule. [0:19:22, 0:19:24]: So I would um [0:19:24, 0:19:26]: Madam Chair, I would need to um [0:19:27, 0:19:28]: Get this approved. [0:19:29, 0:19:32]: Proposed calendar approved by motion of the board. [0:19:33, 0:19:34]: Yes, yes. [0:19:34, 0:19:42]: Do we have a motion to accept this proposed 2022 meeting schedule for the Main Street Advisory Board as presented? [0:19:43, 0:19:45]: with all noted um [0:19:46, 0:19:56]: us, I guess, information and details as to how they will be stated to the public and how we will um move if there's a need to change. [0:19:57, 0:20:00]: and keeping the COVID factor in mind. [0:20:01, 0:20:11]: Madam Chair, go ahead. No, go ahead, Willie. Go ahead, Willie. Madam Chair, I move that we accept the Stockbridge Main Street Advisory Board 2022 meeting schedule as presented. [0:20:12, 0:20:15]: Thank you, Mr. Hopkins. Do we have a second? [0:20:19, 0:20:21]: I'll second. [0:20:21, 0:20:24]: I'll second the minutes. I'm sorry. Um [0:20:24, 0:20:27]: a calendar for twenty twenty two. [0:20:27, 0:20:36]: Just second the motion. Okay. Thank you, Ms. Jones. All right. Um, with that in place, we'll move forward without voting. Um, Miss Finley. [0:20:40, 0:20:40]: Yes. [0:20:41, 0:20:43]: Thank you, Mr. Firch. [0:20:44, 0:20:44]: Yes. [0:20:45, 0:20:46]: Thank you, Miss Gibson. [0:20:47, 0:20:48]: Yes. [0:20:48, 0:20:50]: Thank you, Mr. Hopkins. [0:20:51, 0:20:52]: Ah yes, manager. [0:20:52, 0:20:55]: Thank you. Mr. Horton. [0:20:55, 0:20:56]: Yes. [0:20:56, 0:20:57]: Thank you, Miss Jones. [0:20:58, 0:20:58]: Nice. [0:20:59, 0:21:00]: Yes, madam chair. [0:21:00, 0:21:05]: Thank you. Uh Miss Potts myself, yes. Miss Reed? Yes. [0:21:05, 0:21:06]: Thank you. [0:21:06, 0:21:08]: Miss Richardson. [0:21:09, 0:21:09]: Yes. [0:21:10, 0:21:12]: Thank you. And Councilman Thomas. [0:21:13, 0:21:13]: Yes. [0:21:14, 0:21:20]: Thank you. So moved. Thank you, Miss Braggs, for presenting it to us. And we're looking forward to 2022. [0:21:21, 0:21:22]: Okay. [0:21:24, 0:21:30]: All right, um the next housekeeping item would be the board appointments. [0:21:30, 0:21:33]: We have several folks that um [0:21:33, 0:21:38]: have requested reappointment on the board. We don't have anyone that um [0:21:39, 0:21:43]: expressed an interest in rolling off at this time. So I'm happy about that. [0:21:44, 0:21:49]: And um those board appointments are going to be made at the December thirteenth. [0:21:49, 0:22:06]: meeting of the main um I'm the main street of the city council on December the 13th at 6 p.m. uh yeah sorry I received uh emails from um Vanessa yesterday has been changed to the 21st [0:22:07, 0:22:15]: Oh, has it? Um I thought I had printed it out. Oh yeah. I have I have a copy with me. Uh please advise the [0:22:16, 0:22:20]: Please be advised the Stockwave City Council has moved the board. [0:22:20, 0:22:23]: A committee appointments to December twenty first at six PM. [0:22:23, 0:22:27]: Oh, okay. I didn't realize that. I'm sorry. [0:22:30, 0:22:34]: Did everyone that's up for reappointment receive that communication? [0:22:35, 0:22:39]: It should be Linda, Greg, Shamari, Anika, and Willie. [0:22:40, 0:22:40]: Yes. [0:22:40, 0:22:41]: Uh [0:22:43, 0:22:43]: Okay. [0:22:44, 0:22:47]: So everybody note that the twenty first. [0:22:47, 0:22:51]: So you all will um need to be present at that. [0:22:51, 0:22:53]: Um particular [0:22:53, 0:22:56]: Meeting in case they um [0:22:56, 0:22:58]: Call for any questions or have any [0:22:59, 0:22:59]: Um [0:23:00, 0:23:04]: And it's as you all know, it they usually don't have any questions or anything. So [0:23:04, 0:23:08]: Um, you all need to definitely put that on your schedules to be there though. [0:23:09, 0:23:13]: And any other board members who just want to be there at the meeting and support. [0:23:14, 0:23:16]: That is okay as well. Um [0:23:16, 0:23:17]: Or encouraged. [0:23:18, 0:23:19]: But the way they [0:23:20, 0:23:21]: Do this um [0:23:22, 0:23:25]: Because it is oh wait a minute. [0:23:26, 0:23:30]: I'm sorry, I'm kind of scattered right now. I forgot they have gone back to [0:23:30, 0:23:33]: The physical meetings, so I need to check to see whether or not. [0:23:33, 0:23:35]: The appointments are gonna be made. [0:23:35, 0:23:36]: If they want [0:23:37, 0:23:51]: the candidates to be at the physical meeting or if you are still able to join by Zoom. So I'll get back to those people who are up for reappointment and let you all know, unless it's stated in that letter, because I haven't seen the letter. [0:23:51, 0:23:55]: No, no, it's not stated. It's just one, just the morning. [0:23:55, 0:24:00]: I should send it on the ninth. Please be advised. And that's it. Okay. Madam Chair. [0:24:01, 0:24:03]: Yes, Councilman Thomas. [0:24:03, 0:24:05]: Yes, um [0:24:05, 0:24:09]: The uh agenda low was was quite [0:24:10, 0:24:11]: Uh heavy. [0:24:11, 0:24:13]: With thirty some items. [0:24:13, 0:24:14]: And [0:24:14, 0:24:17]: What the city attempted to do was to [0:24:18, 0:24:30]: uh roll off some of those agenda items to uh December the twenty first. Uh but the December thirteenth and twenty first council meeting. [0:24:31, 0:24:32]: Uh we'll be in person. [0:24:34, 0:24:36]: And I do believe that um [0:24:37, 0:24:41]: Those that those item that agenda item I think [0:24:41, 0:24:42]: Um [0:24:42, 0:24:47]: Those candidates probably will need to be in person. [0:24:47, 0:24:48]: I'm not sure if [0:24:49, 0:24:51]: I don't think there would be [0:24:51, 0:25:01]: uh in the Zoom connection for those in person meeting, even though, you know, it will be Facebook Live, et cetera, et cetera. But I don't know if that will be any um [0:25:02, 0:25:10]: Zoom access. Um, well you can check with uh Madam Clerk, uh Mrs. Holiday to be sure, but I don't I don't think so. [0:25:10, 0:25:11]: Okay. [0:25:11, 0:25:16]: I will do that and get back to everyone. And I apologize that I didn't [0:25:16, 0:25:16]: Um [0:25:17, 0:25:20]: Realised that they had moved those appointments to the [0:25:21, 0:25:22]: Um twenty first. [0:25:23, 0:25:25]: So I'm glad you all got the notice. [0:25:26, 0:25:31]: Um, my next housekeeping item is um I need to get everyone's [0:25:31, 0:25:35]: preferred email address because for some of you I have [0:25:36, 0:25:38]: Um two or three e mails. [0:25:38, 0:25:41]: But I need to make sure that you all [0:25:41, 0:25:43]: Select an email that is [0:25:44, 0:25:51]: one that you check quite frequently. Um the reason that some of you have more than one email. [0:25:51, 0:25:55]: on our email um distribution is because [0:25:55, 0:25:58]: You either requested that it be sent to two [0:25:58, 0:25:59]: Um [0:25:59, 0:26:00]: places or [0:26:01, 0:26:08]: You were not responding to emails from one of the other email addresses that I had. So I added an additional one. [0:26:08, 0:26:11]: to ensure that you are receiving communications. [0:26:12, 0:26:21]: So if you all are have access to a computer at this time, just please shoot me an email with your preferred email. [0:26:21, 0:26:23]: Um address [0:26:23, 0:26:28]: And then also um if you are not at a computer right now, just make a note to yourself. [0:26:28, 0:26:33]: to send that to me as soon as possible because we're trying to kind of clean up and streamline. [0:26:34, 0:26:36]: Our і mail communications. [0:26:36, 0:26:38]: I have inquired with [0:26:39, 0:26:42]: The um IT department to see if we [0:26:43, 0:26:46]: As the Main Street Advisory Board are able to get [0:26:46, 0:26:50]: Stockbridge email addresses. Um I know our DDA has. [0:26:50, 0:26:51]: Stock bridge. [0:26:52, 0:26:52]: Um [0:26:53, 0:26:56]: Stockbridge email addresses so that [0:26:57, 0:27:01]: Um all of their communications can go through that source and that way you're [0:27:01, 0:27:02]: Not having to receive [0:27:03, 0:27:09]: your emails at personal email addresses or work email addresses, what have you. But [0:27:10, 0:27:22]: I have to determine whether or not we're able to get those because I know at one point they were saying that there were not sorry, there were not enough. [0:27:22, 0:27:25]: Um email addresses available with our current [0:27:26, 0:27:30]: Um account. I know that some additional email addresses. [0:27:30, 0:27:32]: Or capacity has been added. [0:27:32, 0:27:37]: For the police department, because they brought the police department on board this year. [0:27:38, 0:27:40]: So I will have to get back to you all on a [0:27:41, 0:27:46]: Um stock bridge specific email for Main Street for us to use for each person. [0:27:46, 0:27:51]: But for the time being, please send me your preferred email address and that is the one that [0:27:52, 0:27:54]: I will use um going forward in January. [0:27:55, 0:27:57]: In addition, I want to try this again. [0:27:58, 0:28:03]: I need to get you all's shirt sizes uh prior to our shop small. [0:28:04, 0:28:05]: Став ам [0:28:05, 0:28:08]: I had requested to get you all's um [0:28:08, 0:28:10]: Shirt sizes. [0:28:10, 0:28:15]: And because we're trying to order polos for the Main Street Advisory Board. [0:28:15, 0:28:21]: Only a few people responded and then I got busy with some other things and did not circle back to you all. [0:28:21, 0:28:27]: So please send me your shirt sizes and we are able to I think I told you before they were gonna be [0:28:28, 0:28:30]: Unisex size, but we are able to get [0:28:30, 0:28:33]: Um male and female sizes so [0:28:34, 0:28:38]: Um, keep that in mind when you send that to me. So in your email. [0:28:38, 0:28:40]: Please be sure to send. [0:28:40, 0:28:43]: your um shirt size and your preferred [0:28:44, 0:28:48]: email address so that we can um get our polos ordered. [0:28:48, 0:28:51]: And we'll have them for next year and that way. [0:28:51, 0:28:54]: We'll look spiffy when we go to our different events and [0:28:54, 0:28:56]: Hat different meetings. [0:28:56, 0:28:58]: will have a um unified look. [0:29:00, 0:29:03]: Okay. Madam Chair. Yes, sir. [0:29:04, 0:29:04]: Um [0:29:05, 0:29:07]: I want to comment on both of those two items, if I may. [0:29:08, 0:29:12]: Sure. Um I just wanted to remind the board members that um [0:29:13, 0:29:21]: That is a uh an an important uh statement about the email address because I want everyone to be aware that um [0:29:21, 0:29:26]: with the city municipality, all of this is open subject to um [0:29:27, 0:29:30]: uh open record and and record requests. [0:29:30, 0:29:35]: And so I think it is important if you really don't want your personal email. [0:29:35, 0:29:46]: to get caught up in in that kind of uh open record or uh open record request, then I I think we probably you need to uh uh you know change that [0:29:46, 0:29:48]: Uh on the polo. [0:29:49, 0:29:50]: Uh [0:29:50, 0:29:52]: I do recall that discussion. [0:29:53, 0:29:56]: Uh personally I I I don't wear [0:29:57, 0:29:57]: Um [0:29:59, 0:30:06]: polos or those kind of so is there any way that um some of us or do we have a discussion about shirts [0:30:07, 0:30:10]: versus in the untooked shirts. [0:30:10, 0:30:12]: versus polos. [0:30:13, 0:30:16]: What type of sh shirt? You mean like a um [0:30:17, 0:30:20]: T shirt, iron shirt or no, no, no, not a t shirt. [0:30:21, 0:30:25]: But just a shirt, but it's not the the tuck in. [0:30:25, 0:30:27]: Kind of shirt it just um [0:30:28, 0:30:30]: A shirt that you wear out. [0:30:31, 0:30:38]: uh with with the cut in the side, which it's not a tuck in kind of a shirt, but it's a it's a button up shirt. [0:30:38, 0:30:40]: Oh, button down, sure. [0:30:40, 0:30:42]: Yeah. Oh, okay. [0:30:43, 0:30:50]: Um no, uh we didn't really have a discussion about it. I was just going to [0:30:50, 0:30:52]: Order polos, but if that is [0:30:53, 0:30:54]: Of концерн. [0:30:54, 0:30:55]: Um [0:30:55, 0:30:57]: To you all as a board. [0:30:57, 0:31:00]: Maybe I can come up with several different [0:31:01, 0:31:02]: Types of shirts. [0:31:03, 0:31:08]: And present them to you all and you all can decide which one you would like to go with. [0:31:08, 0:31:09]: Um [0:31:10, 0:31:13]: I can put that up for discussion. [0:31:13, 0:31:16]: Well, I just think personally a [0:31:16, 0:31:21]: A button down shirt, not the tuck in shirt. Now I think it's it's a better look. [0:31:22, 0:31:26]: than than than polos. I mean polos are okay with with some folks but [0:31:27, 0:31:29]: just personally, um [0:31:29, 0:31:33]: I I think the shirt is is a little bit more um [0:31:35, 0:31:37]: I wanna say more of a formal look. [0:31:38, 0:31:46]: Um, some folks just, you know, polos are just not it's not a good fit for some people. It just it's just my opinion. [0:31:48, 0:31:50]: Well, um [0:31:50, 0:31:53]: The reason I went with polo was because it is [0:31:54, 0:32:01]: usually a more um it does have a a more casual look because we would be wearing them at like for example our movies events. [0:32:02, 0:32:06]: Um, our outdoor meet and greets and things like that. But [0:32:06, 0:32:13]: I am open for any um suggestions if you all are um more interested in some other type of [0:32:13, 0:32:14]: shirt as um [0:32:15, 0:32:16]: Councilman Thomas has um [0:32:17, 0:32:18]: Proffered here. [0:32:19, 0:32:25]: Or I can Lisa and I can kinda go to the catalogs that we have available to us and [0:32:25, 0:32:27]: Um come up with several types of shirts. [0:32:28, 0:32:31]: And um present those to you all and you all as a board. [0:32:32, 0:32:33]: Can decide on [0:32:34, 0:32:34]: What [0:32:35, 0:32:37]: type of shirt you would like to go with. [0:32:40, 0:32:41]: Also no [0:32:42, 0:32:46]: Um long long sleeve versus short sleeve. [0:32:47, 0:32:57]: Yeah, we were going with um just short sleeve polos. Okay. Now Mrs. Bragg, I don't know uh what Mrs. Bragg's and and and uh and and Lisa [0:32:58, 0:33:01]: I I know you all have probably noticed the shirts that that [0:33:01, 0:33:03]: They were around City Hall. [0:33:03, 0:33:06]: And and those are casual shirts. [0:33:06, 0:33:13]: Um out for men and women. Uh it's just a button down shirt. Uh it's not a tuck in. [0:33:13, 0:33:17]: Uh but it's just a a shirt that you it's a casual shirt. [0:33:21, 0:33:25]: Um, I've seen a whole lot of different types of shirts around here. [0:33:26, 0:33:33]: Um, so I'm not exactly sure which one you might be referring to because I've seen them in all [0:33:33, 0:33:35]: Styles, colors. [0:33:35, 0:33:37]: All of it. So [0:33:37, 0:33:38]: Um [0:33:40, 0:33:43]: What is you all's pleasure as a board? [0:33:45, 0:33:46]: Annika. [0:33:47, 0:34:07]: Yeah, um I was thinking that uh comfort is important, that every person is comfortable in what they're wearing, because that kind of uh affects your confidence when you're not feeling like you're dressed well for yourself. So I'm thinking that maybe variety or options might be great, um, where perhaps uniformity will come in the color and where the [0:34:07, 0:34:27]: logo lives um so that we all can uh be comfortable and and and happy in what we're wearing. Sometimes long sleeves will be appropriate, other times short sleeves will. So it could be maybe we have a basic, this is what we're working with. And if you want to upgrade it to this one, maybe, you know, I don't know if we [0:34:27, 0:34:40]: we should come out of pocket for any major change. Um, but I do think that uh the uniformity can come in the color and where the logo lives opposed to the actual shirt, so that all are are happy. That's that's my opinion. [0:34:40, 0:34:41]: Okay. [0:34:42, 0:34:46]: Well, I think that that is a good idea to um maybe have [0:34:46, 0:34:50]: A couple of options that are I guess are uniform and [0:34:50, 0:34:54]: You can wear whichever one you feel most comfortable in. [0:34:54, 0:34:56]: Prayer, I think I saw a question. [0:34:56, 0:35:08]: Yeah. Um am I able to oh maybe I can put it um in the chat. I think I can attach. You can share, I think, if you need to show something. Well I just share my screen. Yeah. [0:35:09, 0:35:15]: Okay, yeah, let me do that. I was just googling some um is this the kind of [0:35:15, 0:35:20]: Like button up like a short sleeve shirt like this, is this what [0:35:22, 0:35:25]: Maybe. I think that that is what um [0:35:26, 0:35:32]: Councilman Thomas and you can um chime in. Councilman Thomas, you were thinking more of a button-down shirt like that. [0:35:32, 0:35:33]: It is. [0:35:33, 0:35:35]: Yeah, I'm I'm looking at it. [0:35:35, 0:35:36]: Yeah. Um [0:35:37, 0:35:40]: The the larger one, the the black one seemed like I can't [0:35:40, 0:35:41]: Okay, hold on. [0:35:42, 0:35:43]: Um [0:35:44, 0:35:58]: I'm sharing my screen so you got to tempt Well this is this is this for a female a similar that one's a female shirt that she was just showing but you're talking about a three right what it is it is a button down shirt similar to that [0:35:58, 0:36:01]: Now I know this one look seemed to be a little long, but um [0:36:02, 0:36:11]: But yeah, it's a shirt similar to that. Uh okay, so similar to that. Okay. So it fits over your pants versus having to tuck it in. That's what you okay. [0:36:11, 0:36:13]: Right, yeah. You do not tuck this one in. [0:36:13, 0:36:14]: Um [0:36:15, 0:36:20]: This one look a seemed to be a little long, but yeah, but that style as far as uh the button down. [0:36:20, 0:36:21]: Okay. [0:36:22, 0:36:22]: Okay. [0:36:23, 0:36:29]: And I think Councilman Thomas's other point was the style of that shirt is cut so there's no tail on it. It doesn't have to be cut. [0:36:29, 0:36:31]: Yeah. That is correct. [0:36:31, 0:36:36]: Doesn't have the round bottom where you have to correct. Yeah, that is correct. [0:36:36, 0:36:37]: Okay. [0:36:38, 0:36:38]: Okay. [0:36:39, 0:36:40]: Uh [0:36:42, 0:36:45]: All right, well, um I think based on um [0:36:46, 0:36:51]: the comments that I've heard so far. Are there any other comments? Um, if not, I guess based on those comments. [0:36:51, 0:36:55]: We will um go to some of our catalogs that um [0:36:55, 0:36:56]: The city orders from [0:36:57, 0:37:02]: And select a couple of shirts for you all to um look at. [0:37:02, 0:37:07]: And we'll get a consensus on maybe a long sleeve and a short sleeve and [0:37:08, 0:37:10]: Go on from there. Does that sound [0:37:11, 0:37:11]: Go. [0:37:13, 0:37:15]: Yes. [0:37:15, 0:37:16]: Okay. [0:37:16, 0:37:17]: Oi. [0:37:17, 0:37:25]: Well, I still will need you all's shirt sizes, so please be sure to send those with your preferred email address. [0:37:26, 0:37:28]: Okay, now I'm gonna move to project [0:37:28, 0:37:29]: Updates. [0:37:29, 0:37:30]: Um [0:37:30, 0:37:33]: And I'm gonna start with our [0:37:33, 0:37:39]: most recent promotion and that's our Small Business Saturday. So I'm going to [0:37:39, 0:37:40]: Um hand that over. [0:37:41, 0:37:42]: To Lisa. [0:37:42, 0:37:47]: Um, but before I do so, I just want to thank everyone who was supportive. [0:37:48, 0:37:49]: Of small business. [0:37:49, 0:37:55]: Excuse me, Small Business Saturday weather you were one of our Small Business Saturday. [0:37:55, 0:37:58]: Енд сма бізнес бліц каптанс. [0:37:58, 0:38:00]: Um Greg Linda. [0:38:01, 0:38:02]: Prayer, Vanessa. [0:38:03, 0:38:06]: Um, thank you so much for. [0:38:06, 0:38:08]: Helping us to get the work. [0:38:09, 0:38:15]: out Linda, did I say Linda to get the word out to everyone and to help us to recruit. [0:38:15, 0:38:17]: The small businesses and [0:38:17, 0:38:18]: For those who shop. [0:38:19, 0:38:23]: Thank you so much for shopping. You sent in your photos and [0:38:23, 0:38:25]: Text messaged me and [0:38:25, 0:38:27]: Let me know that you were out and about. [0:38:27, 0:38:29]: supporting this particular promotion. [0:38:30, 0:38:34]: So now I'm gonna hand it over to Lisa and she's gonna give you all [0:38:34, 0:38:35]: Um her report. [0:38:37, 0:38:39]: Uh good morning again, everyone. [0:38:39, 0:38:46]: Um, I do want to thank you all for participating in this year's um shop small blitz campaign. [0:38:46, 0:38:50]: Um, I think it was pretty successful. Um [0:38:50, 0:38:55]: You know, when you talk about success, there are a lot of different measures, you know. [0:38:55, 0:38:59]: Um how well it went in general and also um [0:39:00, 0:39:08]: What things were our expectations and what we hope we can do better in the future? So, one thing I definitely think is everyone we've talked to. [0:39:09, 0:39:15]: Really prefers having it as a month long blitz, if not seen uh season. [0:39:15, 0:39:16]: And I think [0:39:16, 0:39:20]: It's because it gives people time to create momentum. [0:39:21, 0:39:33]: And um capitalize on the public being aware and having more time to participate as opposed to squeezing it in during the holiday weekend when there's just a lot going on. [0:39:34, 0:39:35]: So um [0:39:35, 0:39:48]: Everyone who shopped, everyone who helped us get the word out and push passports. Also, once again, we had over 30 businesses participate, which is great. [0:39:49, 0:39:52]: I love that because I I just really was not sure. [0:39:53, 0:39:57]: How many participants we would get? I thought we'd have to cull it down to whatever. [0:39:58, 0:40:18]: You know, whoever was available. You know, a lot of businesses um changed their format since the um pandemic, or some of them have just stopped being available to us. But we do we did get more than 30 businesses. And um additionally, some of those were. [0:40:18, 0:40:20]: Бізнес да хартипайте бифо. [0:40:21, 0:40:25]: So and it was a pretty good percentage of those. And I'm really pleased about that. [0:40:26, 0:40:26]: Um [0:40:27, 0:40:29]: We've had a meeting um [0:40:29, 0:40:37]: With some folks who will probably become like a um our shop small committee, and we would like to. [0:40:37, 0:40:43]: Make a few changes so that we have a better opportunity for success next year. [0:40:43, 0:40:50]: Um, in terms of scheduling and getting our getting the word out and so on. So you'll be hearing more about that. [0:40:51, 0:40:51]: Um [0:40:52, 0:40:59]: Kira has asked me to share my screen and show you um one of the videos we [0:41:00, 0:41:02]: Um presented this year. [0:41:03, 0:41:05]: Um so each year [0:41:05, 0:41:14]: For the past few years, we've been doing um, I hope you guys can see that because on my screen it's a little bit small. Gonna see if I can blow it up. [0:41:15, 0:41:23]: Um, we've been choosing something like eight uh businesses. Hang on. So come in anytime. [0:41:24, 0:41:32]: We've been choosing eight businesses for the past three years that we created videos for. And that has been a really good. [0:41:32, 0:41:34]: um strategy. [0:41:34, 0:41:36]: Uh, we get a lot of views. [0:41:37, 0:41:41]: And comments on Facebook from the public, you know, being able to enjoy. [0:41:41, 0:41:44]: Folks they know from around the community in their [0:41:44, 0:41:45]: shops and [0:41:46, 0:41:53]: Um, getting the word out and being participants. So we're going to show you the one from Elf's Cakery, starring. [0:41:53, 0:41:55]: Ms. Prayer Finley. [0:41:57, 0:42:03]: Yeah, we really like this one. Um, I hope oh wait, let me share the sound before I go further. [0:42:03, 0:42:07]: And I hope you'll be able to hear it because sometimes it's not a good transition. [0:42:09, 0:42:11]: I'm gonna turn my sound up pretty high. [0:42:14, 0:42:15]: All right, here we go. [0:42:18, 0:42:38]: I'm Prayer Finley with Elf's Cakery. Small businesses are the heart of our community. Stockbridge needs your support now and throughout this holiday season. Here at Elf Cakery, we offer custom cakes and cupcakes for all occasions. However, you can also come in anytime. You can buy cakes, cupcakes, cake pots. [0:42:38, 0:42:46]: Cookies, we have it all. Please shop small with us through November and throughout the year. We're looking forward to satisfying your sweet tooth. [0:42:46, 0:42:52]: You better shop around. Yeah. [0:42:54, 0:42:57]: Well that turned out much better than I thought it would. [0:42:58, 0:43:00]: We really enjoyed that. [0:43:00, 0:43:04]: Is that your first post to do? You haven't seen it? [0:43:04, 0:43:22]: Oh no, Lisa, didn't you send her a link to it? I I swore I did because the thing was I didn't ask for it. Yeah, it wasn't. Yeah, you did ask for it because you only had a couple more days left and I thought I sent it to you. Oh my I apologize. Okay, we'll use it next year. [0:43:23, 0:43:29]: Yes, yes. We'll keep on using it. Oh my goodness. It came out very well and um [0:43:29, 0:43:34]: Um Barber said that was a great video, everybody. [0:43:35, 0:43:41]: Okay. Um and then Kira wanted me to show you one that we did not produce. [0:43:41, 0:43:45]: But um one of the participating vendors um [0:43:46, 0:43:56]: Their um one of their employees just took it upon herself to make um a video. I'm going to scooch down here on Boba Luba. [0:43:57, 0:44:01]: This young lady named Amelia. Um, I think she did a great job. [0:44:02, 0:44:03]: Here she is. [0:44:03, 0:44:23]: All right, hang on. I'm gonna try to blow and this was totally unsolicited. She did it on her own. I gotta give you a quick note that she still has the music that's piped into the store playing in the background. So the sound is not, you know, high quality. But if you could um try to pay attention to [0:44:23, 0:44:25]: So her it would be worth it. [0:44:27, 0:44:47]: Exciting things that are coming up. So first of all, we have joined with other small businesses in Stockbridge for a small business Blitz passport. So on this passport there are lots of different small businesses and if you shop at four of them and get stamps for four different businesses, you'll be entered. [0:44:47, 0:44:52]: You you're you're not able to hear it. Um, it's because the music on hers is piped in. [0:44:52, 0:44:55]: But if you ever get a chance, I think you'd enjoy it so. [0:44:56, 0:45:00]: Lisa. I mean this this is a pretty young girl, right? And Lisa [0:45:00, 0:45:08]: Lisa, excuse me. Lisa, we can hear it. I could hear we could hear it clearly, but it's and maybe you don't want to play it, but I could hear it very well. [0:45:08, 0:45:15]: Oh, okay we can hear it. Oh but you if you ha if you can on your screens bring your volume up a bit too. So [0:45:16, 0:45:20]: 'Cause it is a lot of interference and I think that she um well background noise and I [0:45:21, 0:45:23]: Финкш овкурші динхав а форма мікрофон. [0:45:24, 0:45:27]: So it's just her little camera or iPhone, so [0:45:27, 0:45:29]: have to listen real closely. [0:45:30, 0:45:34]: So I'm uh we're only 26 seconds in. I'm gonna just play it from here, okay? [0:45:35, 0:45:35]: Okay. [0:45:36, 0:45:50]: Ready to win a$100 gift card. We also have a coupon on here, so if you come in with this or get one from here and get your little stamp, you can buy one regular drink and get the other one for free. So it's an awesome deal. [0:45:52, 0:46:12]: Also, we have a special day with this called Shop Small Business Saturday, which is a Saturday after Thanksgiving. On that day, if you come into any of these cool little shops and make a purchase and then take a picture of yourself with that purchase, you will be entered to win a$200 gift card. [0:46:12, 0:46:32]: Which is great honestly. There's so many cool different shops that will be open on that Saturday or that will be open all throughout November because you have until December 3rd to complete this. There's Bobalubuti, obviously my favorite because I work here. Um there's Party by Design, which is an awesome place to go with your friends where you can paint and you can [0:46:32, 0:46:33]: Can um [0:46:34, 0:46:41]: drink your wine, it's very fun. We also have Barnes and Beautiful, which has the best decor ever for your house. We have [0:46:42, 0:46:47]: some of their shelves up in our shop right now. And let's see, where else? [0:46:48, 0:46:55]: There's just so many awesome stores that you should definitely check this out. Come in, get your passport, and enter to win. [0:46:56, 0:47:15]: And a hundred dollar gift card. Also, this Saturday we are having an awesome, awesome opportunity. My co-worker Sebastian is going to be having a pop-up gallery here. So she goes on to explain that one of their co-workers is doing a pop-up art gallery. I guess that's what he does on the side. [0:47:16, 0:47:20]: And what I just really loved about this is we've tried to encourage [0:47:20, 0:47:23]: Um, hang on, somebody's got something in the chat. [0:47:24, 0:47:25]: Okay. Um [0:47:26, 0:47:29]: So we've tried to encourage um [0:47:30, 0:47:41]: you know, the businesses to take it upon themselves to promote. And this young lady just really went there. And she is she's not the owner. Like she just [0:47:41, 0:47:55]: Took it upon herself to make a very well explained um video. She had all the points down pat and the understanding of how to use the passport and what the program was about. And I was just so [0:47:55, 0:48:00]: Pleased with her. Let me see if I can get to Vanessa's easily. [0:48:00, 0:48:01]: Hang on minute. [0:48:01, 0:48:02]: Hang on, hang on. [0:48:03, 0:48:08]: Normally I um have these on a disc, but I don't today. [0:48:09, 0:48:11]: So we're going from here. Let's try it going this way. [0:48:14, 0:48:14]: Okay. [0:48:17, 0:48:22]: Yeah, past that one. The one with that one wasn't bad. Oh, go past that one. [0:48:23, 0:48:25]: Oh, it's just not showing me my um [0:48:25, 0:48:26]: Wait. [0:48:26, 0:48:32]: And part of the problem is that I've got You may have to use that arrow and scroll through them. See where it says [0:48:33, 0:48:34]: We're um [0:48:35, 0:48:36]: Drip through is the arrow. [0:48:38, 0:48:46]: Did I pass go back down? No, go back down. See drip through's video. See there's an arrow right now. You know what? I can't see it because this thing is here. [0:48:47, 0:48:58]: I gotta move my um my zoom over. Okay. That's yeah. Click on that little arrow. You might be able to get to it that way. All right, here we go. That's so much better. Sorry guys. Greg, Linda. [0:49:00, 0:49:02]: Paint buses. There's Vanessa's right there. [0:49:03, 0:49:03]: Go back. [0:49:07, 0:49:10]: There she is. Yeah. Okay. Another favorite. [0:49:11, 0:49:31]: Hello, my name is Vanessa Gibson and I am the owner and director of Eagles Landing Dance Center right here in Stockbridge, Georgia. We teach dance to little people three ages three to eighteen. That's right, and we teach ballet, tap, jazz, hip-hop, lyrical, contemporary, modern, you name it. [0:49:31, 0:49:51]: Do it, even we have adult Zumba. We are so excited to be located here in Stockbridge, Georgia, and we can't wait for you to come out and support not only our small businesses but the other small businesses and restaurants right here in Stock Bridge. Please go out this month and help support all the small businesses. [0:49:51, 0:49:57]: Right here inside the me. Hey, you better shower up [0:49:58, 0:49:59]: Okay. [0:49:59, 0:50:05]: Hello, my name is Vanessa Gibson and I am the owner and director of Eagles Landing Dick. Here we go. [0:50:07, 0:50:12]: Okay. Okay. Again, another favorite. I loved Vanessa's energy. Um [0:50:13, 0:50:14]: Our um [0:50:15, 0:50:18]: Our participants are not professional. [0:50:18, 0:50:22]: um actors. Take it off share, Lisa. [0:50:22, 0:50:23]: Okay. [0:50:23, 0:50:28]: Yeah, so we can see you mean Carrie, you mean you don't want them to see our video? No, I don't want them to see that. [0:50:29, 0:50:30]: Mm. [0:50:30, 0:50:34]: You can show it. You can show it. [0:50:34, 0:50:35]: Hang on. [0:50:36, 0:50:39]: It's not good. That's the one that I don't like. [0:50:40, 0:50:43]: I thought it was good. Okay, wait, it's gonna be right here. [0:50:44, 0:50:46]: Okay, let me see if I can blow it up. [0:50:49, 0:50:50]: That's better. [0:50:51, 0:50:55]: And I'm Lisa Fareet. I'm the program coordinator for Stockbridge Main Street. [0:50:56, 0:51:16]: And we're inviting you to come and support our local businesses the entire month of November. Come out and shop, dine, and do business with all of our locally owned small businesses. We've come up with the Stockbridge Small Business Blitz and the Small Business Passport. The Passport has over [0:51:16, 0:51:20]: 30 participating locally owned businesses. [0:51:20, 0:51:25]: Customers are asked to go ahead and visit these businesses, shop at four, [0:51:25, 0:51:31]: Get four stamps and you're eligible to participate in a drawing for a$100 cash card. [0:51:32, 0:51:37]: November is the month for our small business blitz here in Stockbridge. [0:51:38, 0:51:39]: One day is not enough. [0:51:40, 0:51:54]: We want to shop and support our local businesses for the entire month of November. So please grab a passport and go shopping, go dining, and support Stockbridge businesses. [0:51:54, 0:51:59]: We need you to shop till you drop and dine non-stop. [0:51:59, 0:52:03]: Alrighty. [0:52:05, 0:52:07]: It's enough showing off. Yeah. [0:52:09, 0:52:19]: Okay. So you know, you all get an idea of uh what we're trying to do. And every year we want to try to add eight more businesses, eight you know, at least eight more businesses to kind of keep it going. [0:52:19, 0:52:25]: And as you could see when Lisa scrolled through, there were some older videos like Linda, um [0:52:26, 0:52:33]: And Greg, they had some videos and some other businesses. And we're making a collection. So we'll have a a nice store of. [0:52:34, 0:52:40]: videos for the businesses that we have and Lisa go on and continue. See I'm on this. [0:52:41, 0:52:42]: What'd you say, Linda? [0:52:43, 0:52:45]: Never mind. Um I [0:52:46, 0:53:06]: Oh, okay. Can I quickly comment really quick? I know um I'm an Instagram person more so than Facebook. And I will tell you, every time I went through my feed and a new video came, I was excited. They were beautiful. They were fantastic and they were very encouraging. So just know that it's it's it [0:53:06, 0:53:09]: reached the people and they were awesome. Thank you for doing that. [0:53:10, 0:53:17]: Thank you. Thanks for that feedback. Because um, even though I try to pay attention to the way it's going through Instagram. [0:53:17, 0:53:22]: I'm not the user. So it's it's different from your perspective and [0:53:23, 0:53:36]: I felt really like it was exciting. I I we used a different videographer this year. We wanted to see if we can get like a slightly different style. And I think he did a really nice job. Um, I think those videos. [0:53:37, 0:53:39]: We're pretty high quality. [0:53:39, 0:53:42]: Um and we're very engaging. [0:53:42, 0:53:56]: So I'm I'm really pleased with that. And of course we're just adding them to the others as Kira described, which means um, you know, we'll have a bigger catalog to run through the entire month instead of just the same eight all, you know, throughout. [0:53:57, 0:54:03]: So um any other feedback from you guys about this year's campaign, we'd be happy to hear it. [0:54:07, 0:54:15]: No? Y'all you love it? I agree that the whole month is fantastic. Um, I was able to go other places after small business, you know. [0:54:16, 0:54:32]: other than that one weekend. So I do agree um with the business owners that having it for the month was was better um because we're all crazy this time of year and to know oh yeah this place I didn't even know this existed always check this out it just gives people an opportunity to [0:54:32, 0:54:39]: really dig in a little bit more. And I think it's growing. It's it's definitely growing and it's nice to see. [0:54:39, 0:54:42]: it from a thought to something that's actually [0:54:42, 0:54:43]: breathing. So [0:54:44, 0:54:48]: Thank you so much, Lisa, and the whole committee for your effort here. [0:54:48, 0:54:51]: And we do have um [0:54:51, 0:54:53]: Two winners for the um [0:54:53, 0:54:55]: Gift certificates. [0:54:55, 0:54:58]: We have a one hundred dollar gift certificate that [0:54:58, 0:55:00]: Is going to be presented to [0:55:00, 0:55:01]: Чімей [0:55:02, 0:55:06]: She is um very active in the community. She owns a state farm agency, but [0:55:07, 0:55:09]: She went shopping and um visited. [0:55:10, 0:55:14]: A lot of small businesses um during that month of November. [0:55:14, 0:55:17]: Oh go on, Lisa. I I want to say about Kim. [0:55:17, 0:55:18]: Um [0:55:18, 0:55:33]: So she's uh uh in a part of Stockbridge that has a plaza and she shopped at the businesses in her plaza. They were not on the passport, but they are Stockbridge businesses, and that was something else we came up with this year. If you [0:55:33, 0:55:39]: Shop at a small business that's like maybe one of your favorites or that you know of and it's not on the passport. [0:55:39, 0:55:41]: There's a blank section where [0:55:41, 0:55:45]: Someone can put stickers for that location. [0:55:45, 0:55:48]: And I I thought that was a great idea. She just [0:55:48, 0:55:55]: introduced us to some places that we just haven't been in communication with for whatever the reason. So I think that's great. [0:55:55, 0:56:00]: And she shopped at some on the that were on the passport too. I I did want to make that. [0:56:00, 0:56:06]: Um clear that she shopped at those along with some passport um places as well. [0:56:06, 0:56:07]: Mm-hmm. [0:56:07, 0:56:08]: Okay. [0:56:08, 0:56:14]: Anything else? Lisa, did you have anything else on that? No, I think that's about it. I'm kind of glad it's over. [0:56:14, 0:56:22]: Oh, the second winner, um, the$200 um yes, I'm sorry. That was um Robert Kolpak. [0:56:22, 0:56:28]: Robert Kolpak, some of you know him from being in the community or on some other committees. [0:56:29, 0:56:44]: He is a staunch supporter of Small Business Saturday. Like from we've known him for a couple of years, and we met him because he was doing the shop small passport and he was a winner a few years back and um. [0:56:45, 0:57:05]: I'm telling you, I don't care what's going on. He is out there shopping on that Saturday. He's taking pictures wherever he's at. He's bringing his kids around and family members. He comes back, he delivers his passport in person. You know, he makes sure that he shows us that he's been to drip through because I guess that's his morning stop. [0:57:05, 0:57:07]: And um [0:57:07, 0:57:23]: I'm just glad to have um folks like Robert be a part of what we're doing. It's it lets us know that people do appreciate the campaign because a lot of work goes into this and we don't always get the feedback to understand how the customer is enjoying it. [0:57:25, 0:57:42]: I I wanna add to what to what Kira said that that uh Robert was taking his kids around and introducing them to the idea of supporting local and sh and small and and it was really nice to see and and uh they visited here. It was a nice pleasant visit and the way he was guiding the kids through. It's really nice. [0:57:44, 0:57:44]: Yeah. [0:57:45, 0:57:46]: Okay. [0:57:46, 0:57:56]: All right. Well I'm gonna speed along. Thank you, Lisa, for your report and thank you everyone for supporting this effort. And it's we're gonna do it even better next year. [0:57:57, 0:58:00]: Um, as far as our construction projects are concerned. [0:58:00, 0:58:02]: The Ted [0:58:02, 0:58:05]: Dricklin is um we are [0:58:05, 0:58:07]: Looking at bitters now. [0:58:07, 0:58:12]: for the work on that particular building. We did have a little bit of a snag in our bid process. [0:58:13, 0:58:17]: Where there was um s a little bit of confusion with regard to [0:58:17, 0:58:21]: some items that people were supposed to include in their bid. [0:58:21, 0:58:25]: So we've contacted all the bidders and kind of corrected that. [0:58:25, 0:58:31]: Confusion. So uh we'll be looking at FET to finalize that before the end of the month as far as which [0:58:32, 0:58:32]: Um [0:58:33, 0:58:35]: construction company will be going with [0:58:35, 0:58:36]: Um for that. [0:58:37, 0:58:40]: One fourteen MLK the White Box Project. [0:58:40, 0:58:47]: That is that contract is currently with the city attorneys and being written. So we're moving pretty fast on that one. [0:58:48, 0:58:50]: And then with the Alleyway project, um [0:58:51, 0:58:58]: The uh Falcon Design did give a report at the last um city council meeting. They're going to be tweaking [0:58:58, 0:59:02]: Um, the design that was presented to the business owners. Um [0:59:03, 0:59:06]: After getting comments from the business owners with regard to [0:59:07, 0:59:08]: Their um [0:59:08, 0:59:09]: I guess. [0:59:09, 0:59:12]: Desires for that particular spot. [0:59:12, 0:59:13]: Um [0:59:13, 0:59:19]: They're going to do a redraw of some of the elements that taking out some elements, adding some elements. [0:59:19, 0:59:25]: To make that more conducive to what the um property owners and business owners. [0:59:25, 0:59:30]: gave us feedback on. So I'll g have some more on that once they have given me. [0:59:30, 0:59:33]: The redraw to give you an update on that. [0:59:34, 0:59:38]: Um then finally I would like to uh well not finally um [0:59:38, 0:59:43]: Finally, on this particular project, our Main Street website is going live. [0:59:44, 0:59:51]: And um you all beta tested it several months ago and we got some of the kinks out and [0:59:51, 1:00:00]: Made some changes, added some content, and um I would like for you all to write down stockbridgemainstreet.com. [1:00:01, 1:00:04]: All one word, no dashes, stockbridge, main street. [1:00:04, 1:00:06]: Dot com [1:00:07, 1:00:23]: And it's gonna go live this weekend. So I would like for you all to again um visit the site, look it over, test it out, see if there's anything that's not looking right. This is just a little soft launch. [1:00:23, 1:00:32]: Um, you can tell friends and family to look at it. We're going to try to get staff to look at it as well. And just give us some feedback on what you think about. [1:00:32, 1:00:36]: the site itself. Again, that's Stockbridge Main Street. [1:00:36, 1:00:37]: dot com [1:00:38, 1:00:42]: And um just shoot us some emails and let us know what you think. [1:00:43, 1:00:50]: The work plan committee joint DDA Main Street Work Plan Committee are downtown connectivity. [1:00:50, 1:00:51]: Committee meant [1:00:51, 1:00:55]: Last week for the on the first um Tuesday of the month. [1:00:56, 1:00:57]: Think that was the seventh. [1:00:57, 1:01:00]: And then downtown beautification will be meeting. [1:01:00, 1:01:03]: On the fourteenth, both groups have homework. [1:01:03, 1:01:07]: Um, that you all are supposed to be bringing to our next meetings. [1:01:08, 1:01:08]: Um the [1:01:09, 1:01:10]: Connectivity um meet [1:01:11, 1:01:17]: Crew will not be meeting in January. So uh make note of that if you are on the design and connectivity. [1:01:18, 1:01:21]: Um committee we will not be meeting in January. [1:01:22, 1:01:23]: Uh but the um [1:01:24, 1:01:28]: Design and um downtown beautification and activation will be [1:01:28, 1:01:33]: Um meeting next week on the fourteenth, I think it is. Tuesday the fourteenth. [1:01:34, 1:01:36]: Yes, Tuesday the fourteenth at six PM. [1:01:36, 1:01:41]: And you all had a homework assignment, so make sure you come back with your homework completed. [1:01:42, 1:01:43]: Um [1:01:43, 1:01:46]: Then there's one other thing that we um [1:01:46, 1:01:51]: I want to address and that is um an issue. I'm sorry. Yes Frank is a question. Are you [1:01:52, 1:01:54]: I I wanted to say something about the work plan. [1:01:54, 1:01:56]: Mm-hmm. Um [1:01:56, 1:01:58]: So we um [1:01:58, 1:02:07]: As a committee uh our the different committees were talking about it, we thought it was a good idea to present our work plan to [1:02:09, 1:02:13]: To present the work plan to uh the council. [1:02:13, 1:02:15]: Because um [1:02:15, 1:02:20]: We just wanted to make sure they understood, although they had heard about it before, understood. [1:02:20, 1:02:27]: what we were trying to do and agree to allow us to go forward with that uh work. [1:02:28, 1:02:34]: And therefore we'll have more support as we go through. They understand what we're doing. Um [1:02:34, 1:02:40]: You know, it won't be a surprise to them when different parts um are presented uh of the work that we've [1:02:40, 1:02:44]: Completed and are trying to uh improve to the downtown. [1:02:44, 1:02:45]: So [1:02:45, 1:02:49]: Um, Mr. Peterson was able to go before the council last week. [1:02:49, 1:02:59]: and request that our uh work plan be accepted in a resolution. That resolution has passed. And so I think that's really good news. Um [1:03:00, 1:03:03]: I think sometimes in the past we had some work that was done that [1:03:03, 1:03:04]: Maybe they [1:03:05, 1:03:09]: Misunderstood or forgot about, or whatever the case may be. [1:03:09, 1:03:12]: And then um it wasn't always followed through on so [1:03:12, 1:03:15]: I think it's a great thing that we have a resolution. [1:03:15, 1:03:17]: To acknowledge our work plan. [1:03:18, 1:03:20]: Thanks for um adding that, Lisa. [1:03:20, 1:03:24]: I'm trying to speed through and that was a very important point. [1:03:24, 1:03:28]: um that we did get that resolution approved. And thank you, Alan, for [1:03:29, 1:03:32]: taking that to the city council and um making sure [1:03:32, 1:03:34]: That they understood um [1:03:34, 1:03:38]: what it is we're planning to do over the next year and into the future. [1:03:39, 1:03:44]: Okay. Um one other item I had with regard to um [1:03:45, 1:03:50]: I guess it's not necessarily a project update, but it does um work into our [1:03:51, 1:03:55]: uh work plan and that is the um creating the [1:03:55, 1:04:01]: sense of place in our downtown and we have it has come to my attention that we have [1:04:01, 1:04:03]: А хомлеснес проблем. [1:04:03, 1:04:04]: That is starting to [1:04:05, 1:04:06]: Develop [1:04:06, 1:04:08]: In the downtown area, we've got a couple of [1:04:09, 1:04:11]: Folks who have decided that [1:04:11, 1:04:13]: Our downtown is um [1:04:14, 1:04:16]: A good place for them to set up. [1:04:16, 1:04:18]: Um, their camp. [1:04:18, 1:04:22]: And we are trying very hard to discourage. [1:04:23, 1:04:24]: This sort of behaviour. [1:04:25, 1:04:26]: Um they have [1:04:26, 1:04:30]: Um, come into some of the downtown businesses and [1:04:31, 1:04:31]: Um [1:04:32, 1:04:33]: Have not. [1:04:33, 1:04:35]: made it to кон conducive for [1:04:36, 1:04:41]: people who are shopping and and coming into the downtown area to do business and [1:04:41, 1:04:46]: This is something that we definitely don't want to have in our downtown. So [1:04:47, 1:04:53]: I have spoken with the um police chief our new police chief chief um tramer [1:04:53, 1:04:57]: And I've met with him, and he has [1:04:58, 1:05:00]: Ам, спокен вид Генри Коні поліс. [1:05:01, 1:05:02]: Um they have [1:05:02, 1:05:06]: Increase the patrols for downtown trying to [1:05:06, 1:05:09]: kind of see if there's any kind of um [1:05:09, 1:05:11]: Unwanted behaviour going on. [1:05:12, 1:05:15]: Um, they have also advised us that if [1:05:16, 1:05:17]: Any um [1:05:17, 1:05:21]: Of these folks are coming into the businesses. [1:05:21, 1:05:22]: That [1:05:22, 1:05:24]: Um, you should [1:05:24, 1:05:24]: Um [1:05:25, 1:05:30]: file a police report if they are being belligerent or being in any way um [1:05:31, 1:05:31]: Um [1:05:32, 1:05:36]: I guess unwanted or showing unwanted behaviors or just [1:05:36, 1:05:39]: Um being in your places of business. [1:05:39, 1:05:41]: Um they have also [1:05:41, 1:05:42]: Um [1:05:42, 1:05:47]: told us that if the person is inside of your business and they are not [1:05:48, 1:05:49]: There to do business. [1:05:49, 1:05:52]: Make a purchase, uh, be serviced. [1:05:52, 1:05:53]: That you [1:05:53, 1:05:58]: as the business owner do have and business and or property owner do have the right. [1:05:58, 1:06:00]: To ask them to leave. [1:06:00, 1:06:04]: Um, I've also alerted our mayor about the situation. [1:06:05, 1:06:05]: Yeah. [1:06:05, 1:06:08]: Mayor in capacity as mayor and as city manager. [1:06:08, 1:06:12]: And I have alerted our public works staff about. [1:06:13, 1:06:14]: Getting the um [1:06:15, 1:06:19]: campsites removed it's kind of a slippery slope because [1:06:19, 1:06:20]: Um [1:06:21, 1:06:22]: The [1:06:22, 1:06:23]: Campsites [1:06:23, 1:06:29]: The police cannot, even though they've come out and they've um removed some volatile [1:06:29, 1:06:31]: Um s things that they had in the camp. [1:06:32, 1:06:35]: They cannot remove the camp. That is the [1:06:35, 1:06:40]: responsibility of either the property owner that the proper that the camp has been set up on. [1:06:41, 1:06:42]: Or on the city if that [1:06:43, 1:06:49]: Camp is within the city's right of way or in city owned or controlled property. [1:06:49, 1:06:54]: So I have um photographs of where the camp is and have [1:06:54, 1:06:57]: sent those to all of the parties, so um hopefully [1:06:58, 1:06:58]: That [1:06:59, 1:07:03]: will be removed immediately so that we don't have that in our downtown. [1:07:04, 1:07:09]: Um, there's also a problem uh behind the library I've been alerted to, I've met with. [1:07:09, 1:07:21]: Um, Miss Johnson, who is the head librarian at Cochrane Library, and there's a meeting scheduled with the police chief for next week with her as well. So we're trying to work toward [1:07:21, 1:07:28]: kind of nipping this situation in the bud before it becomes a very, very, very serious problem. It's serious now. [1:07:28, 1:07:30]: But we don't want it to turn into something that [1:07:31, 1:07:32]: is very um [1:07:32, 1:07:36]: Detrimental to our downtown and our downtown development efforts. [1:07:37, 1:07:39]: Okay, that concludes my report. [1:07:40, 1:07:40]: Um [1:07:41, 1:07:43]: I'll give it back over to you, Anika. [1:07:45, 1:07:46]: Okay, thank you. [1:07:46, 1:07:59]: for your report and um at this time our next agenda item is our DDA report. Is Ms. Richardson or Mr. Peterson able to present a report for us today? [1:08:02, 1:08:07]: Um once again, unfortunately there's no report. Um [1:08:07, 1:08:11]: The only thing that we have going on right now, well, we are having um [1:08:13, 1:08:22]: Council McGain and did inform us that she's rolling off the DDA board. So we don't I'm not really sure who the replacement is going to be at this time. [1:08:22, 1:08:29]: Also, um we don't have any active projects going on other than working with our joint committees with Main Street. [1:08:30, 1:08:31]: Um [1:08:31, 1:08:31]: So [1:08:32, 1:08:37]: Those will be the only two updates we have at this time. Hoping and praying for a more active 2022. [1:08:40, 1:08:42]: Okay. Alan, did you have anything? [1:08:44, 1:08:50]: Uh yes, uh Roger and I have some meetings set up regarding the DDA market study. [1:08:50, 1:08:56]: As far as the business recruitment and retention committee, I was out of town, so we did not meet this month. We will meet again. [1:08:56, 1:08:58]: In January. [1:08:58, 1:09:01]: Uh, the group has their homework and [1:09:01, 1:09:04]: Uh before that meeting, I'll send out other updates. [1:09:05, 1:09:09]: But um we'll keep you posted. Uh we'll we'll update everyone next month. [1:09:09, 1:09:13]: On the D DA market study. Uh like I said, Roger and I have some [1:09:13, 1:09:14]: Awesome. [1:09:14, 1:09:16]: Meeting set up regarding that. [1:09:16, 1:09:20]: And um Kerry and Lisa already touched on the resolution. [1:09:21, 1:09:21]: Okay. [1:09:23, 1:09:27]: Perfect. Thank you both for the update. Um any questions? [1:09:31, 1:09:35]: Okay, hearing that. And I do want to apologize for changing um [1:09:35, 1:09:40]: to no visual, I had connectivity and had to rejoin on my phone. [1:09:41, 1:09:41]: Um [1:09:42, 1:09:44]: connectivity c connectivity issue, sorry. [1:09:45, 1:09:45]: Mm. [1:09:46, 1:09:53]: Hearing no questions or concerns, we'll move on to our next agenda item, which is announcements or concerns. Do we have any? [1:09:53, 1:09:55]: From our board members. [1:09:59, 1:10:01]: No announcements, no concerns? [1:10:02, 1:10:03]: Happy holidays. [1:10:03, 1:10:07]: I know, right? Exactly. Thank you for that. [1:10:08, 1:10:09]: Okay. [1:10:11, 1:10:12]: Okay. [1:10:13, 1:10:13]: Beautiful. [1:10:14, 1:10:14]: Well [1:10:15, 1:10:19]: I echo happ happy holidays. We begin and end with the same sentiment. [1:10:19, 1:10:26]: Um we are hoping that 2022 will be fantastic for us all and um Main Street will continue to grow. [1:10:26, 1:10:28]: Um, along with the city. [1:10:28, 1:10:32]: Um and thank you all for all that you do and your service and your commitment. [1:10:32, 1:10:39]: Um and your uh rededication for several of you to the Main Street program effort. [1:10:39, 1:10:40]: Um [1:10:40, 1:10:44]: And anything else? I just want to say. [1:10:44, 1:10:47]: Happy holidays to everyone. Um [1:10:47, 1:10:48]: We've had [1:10:48, 1:10:54]: Two incredible years that just went by. My head is still spinning. [1:10:54, 1:10:58]: But you guys have really um helped us to [1:10:58, 1:11:01]: Кип, іноарнис. [1:11:02, 1:11:18]: and supported us and I rely on you and always look forward to your support. So thank you so much and enjoy your families, enjoy your holidays, stay healthy. And I know I'll see some of your faces uh before the new year, but [1:11:19, 1:11:23]: Just the same. I want to also say I'd be happy to see you in twenty twenty two. [1:11:24, 1:11:29]: All right, perfect. Thank you, Lisa. Perfect sentiment to end our meeting. [1:11:29, 1:11:30]: Madam Chair. [1:11:31, 1:11:37]: Oh yes, sir. Sorry, Mr. Thomas. Councilman Thomas. No problem. I I just want to commend the [1:11:38, 1:11:45]: uh Main Street uh board as well as the Main Street program. [1:11:45, 1:11:48]: Um as part of the elected body. [1:11:49, 1:11:50]: And [1:11:50, 1:11:53]: uh the the direction that we are taking [1:11:54, 1:11:58]: Um, you know, coming out of the past election and [1:11:58, 1:12:00]: We're in the budget cycle now. [1:12:01, 1:12:03]: And you know, we are trying to [1:12:03, 1:12:06]: Uh, look at how we can [1:12:06, 1:12:10]: Uh improve all of our efforts as a team. [1:12:11, 1:12:28]: uh to create a better quality of life for all of our citizens and improve our service delivery. But I I just want to say though as a teammate, uh I appreciate the the the Main Street program and and y'all's value to [1:12:28, 1:12:48]: uh the whole movement. I know Mrs. Bragg, you and Lisa, I know, you know, recently, you know, there have been some comments made. I know Dr. Peterson is aware of that, but um I would just say that um most folks do not, you know, take that view. And uh I appreciate, you know, [1:12:48, 1:12:52]: over the years I've I've been able to to see [1:12:53, 1:13:07]: And to appreciate the effort. And I one thing I can say about this board, um, I may miss a meeting or two here and there because of you know other reasons, but we we have a functioning [1:13:08, 1:13:12]: А нам моем фасиздат, ви авиафонни борй програм. [1:13:12, 1:13:26]: and and we're in the trenches, you know, we're working to to improve the City of Stockbridge. And and I think this is what a a lot of folks see uh when there were no other entities uh you know working. [1:13:26, 1:13:31]: you know, this this board at work and you're visible. So I just know that [1:13:31, 1:13:42]: citizens see this board where they may not even see some elected officials out here working. But I can say that um this board going back to the movies. [1:13:42, 1:13:49]: Uh, you know, when we before the pandemic, I I can just say that, you know, this is a a a a visual. [1:13:50, 1:14:05]: uh board, you know, people see you out here working. And so I just wanted to just say that because um the some of the s uh comments that have been made, uh I thought they was really off and and I have [1:14:05, 1:14:25]: um you know spoken to uh individuals that you know have made some some comments but uh i'll just say that it is not that sentiment is not viewed by the majority of of the council so I just wanna say um I I thank you all and then I commend all of the boys [1:14:25, 1:14:34]: members for being committed uh to you know help making Stockbridge a better place to live and work and play. Thank you. [1:14:36, 1:14:56]: Thank you. And thank you very much. And um I echo um Lisa's sentiments that she um gave earlier, and I thank each and every one of you. It's been a tough two years, and I thank you all for hanging in. And I know that things seem slow, but there is movement. [1:14:55, 1:14:57]: movement and [1:14:57, 1:14:58]: Oui. [1:14:58, 1:15:03]: You're gonna see it in twenty twenty two. And I'm very excited about the movement that you're going to see. [1:15:04, 1:15:05]: Everything stays on track. [1:15:05, 1:15:09]: The way we um are working it behind the scenes. [1:15:09, 1:15:13]: You're gonna be very happy with twenty twenty two and I'm excited about it. [1:15:15, 1:15:20]: Fantastic. Thank you everyone for your comments. [1:15:20, 1:15:21]: And announcements. [1:15:22, 1:15:23]: All right. [1:15:23, 1:15:34]: So last item on our agenda for this year and this month is for us to adjourn our meeting. Do we have a motion to do so? [1:15:39, 1:15:40]: Anybody? [1:15:40, 1:15:46]: Madam Chair, Madam Chair, I move I move that we adjoin the [1:15:47, 1:15:49]: Main Street Advisory Board meeting. [1:15:50, 1:15:53]: Thank you, Councilman Thomas. Do we have a second? [1:15:53, 1:15:54]: I'll suck it. [1:15:55, 1:15:57]: Thank you, Mr. Borton. [1:15:58, 1:16:06]: All right, quickly, uh, we'll do a roll call to acknowledge your answer, uh your vote. Sorry. Uh Miss Finley. [1:16:07, 1:16:07]: Yes. [1:16:08, 1:16:11]: Thank you, Mr. Perch. Yes. [1:16:12, 1:16:14]: Thank you, Miss Gibson. [1:16:14, 1:16:15]: Yes, yes. [1:16:16, 1:16:18]: Thank you, Mr. Hopkins. [1:16:19, 1:16:19]: Yes, yes. [1:16:20, 1:16:21]: Thank you, Mr. Horton. [1:16:22, 1:16:22]: Yes. [1:16:23, 1:16:25]: Thank you, Miss Jones. [1:16:25, 1:16:26]: Yes. [1:16:27, 1:16:30]: Thank you. Miss Potts, yes. Miss Reed. [1:16:30, 1:16:31]: Yes. [1:16:31, 1:16:32]: Thank you. [1:16:32, 1:16:33]: Miss Richardson. [1:16:34, 1:16:35]: Yes. [1:16:36, 1:16:37]: Thank you. And Councilman Thomas. [1:16:38, 1:16:39]: Yes. [1:16:39, 1:16:46]: The mood our meeting is adjourned at 10 27 a.m. on December the 10th. [1:16:46, 1:16:47]: Happy holidays. [1:16:48, 1:16:49]: Yay. [1:16:50, 1:16:54]: Merry Christmas. You all have a happy happy, happy holiday season. [1:16:54, 1:16:55]: Okay. [1:16:55, 1:17:05]: Thank you. And Mr. Councilman Thomas, if you can hang on, um, I need to talk with you. Lisa, um, you hang on and [1:17:06, 1:17:15]: It was one other person that I needed to talk to. I think she's already gone. So anyway, um, if you could hang on, Councilman Thomas, I'd appreciate it. [1:17:16, 1:17:25]: Yes. Merry Christmas. Happy New Year, everybody. I'm gonna hang on for one minute, have one question for you. Okay. I sent you um [1:17:27, 1:17:28]: I sent you a message. [1:17:29, 1:17:29]: Okay. [1:17:32, 1:17:33]: Um [1:17:33, 1:17:34]: Where in the chat? [1:17:35, 1:17:36]: Yes. [1:17:38, 1:17:41]: Yes, um Lisa read the mission statement. [1:17:41, 1:17:42]: Okay, thank you. [1:17:44, 1:17:46]: Vanessa, did you need something? [1:17:47, 1:17:55]: No, I'm getting ready. I'm trying to get off. Oh, well, did you we loved your video? Oh well thank you. Thank you. [1:17:56, 1:17:57]: I appreciate it. It was fun. [1:17:58, 1:18:01]: Yeah. Yes, well I'm glad that you did that for us. Thank you so much. [1:18:02, 1:18:05]: No problem. Y'all have a good one. All right. See you later. [1:18:06, 1:18:09]: Okay. Bye bye. Councilman Thomas. [1:18:10, 1:18:14]: Yes. I'm gonna stop the recording now since the meeting is over. Hold on for a minute.

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[0:00:49, 0:01:09]: Okay, I got that. But right now we we got a timeline to stick to. And I'm sorry it's not live, but we're gonna continue on people are coming at a certain time. So we're gonna move on. If we can get it live into time, we will do so. I right now I mentioned earlier that as far as I understand, our our IT guy was traveling and somehow could not get us on live yet. And uh and right now, as far as I know, the PIO. [0:01:09, 0:01:13]: is not available so if you don't mind let's move forward plant allegiance please [0:01:15, 0:01:26]: I pledge allegiance to a flag in the United States of America and to the Republic which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:01:30, 0:01:32]: All right, roll call uh please. [0:01:38, 0:01:41]: Holiday? Okay, I was pressing my button and it went down. [0:01:41, 0:01:42]: Mayor Ford. [0:01:43, 0:01:44]: Present. [0:01:44, 0:01:45]: Mayor Pro Tem Alexander. [0:01:46, 0:01:47]: Present. Councilwoman Barber. [0:01:48, 0:01:48]: I see. [0:01:49, 0:01:50]: Councilman Blant. [0:01:50, 0:01:51]: Resident [0:01:51, 0:01:53]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:01:53, 0:01:56]: President. Councilman Thomas. [0:01:56, 0:01:57]: President. [0:01:57, 0:01:59]: Mayor Ford, you have a quorum. [0:01:59, 0:02:05]: Thank you very much. Um uh council, I need the uh motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:02:05, 0:02:07]: So move is there a second? [0:02:07, 0:02:08]: That's it. [0:02:09, 0:02:13]: Okay, I I got Ms. Gantt taking that. All in favor, please indicate. [0:02:13, 0:02:14]: Okay. [0:02:14, 0:02:18]: All right. Thank you very much. Okay, good Thomas. Okay, is that uh [0:02:18, 0:02:20]: Now I need a motion to go into executive session, please. [0:02:21, 0:02:25]: So move, I'll make a motion that we go into executive session for personnel. [0:02:26, 0:02:28]: Okay, thank you sir. [0:02:28, 0:02:31]: Ms. Gantt, second that again. All in flavor please indicate. [0:02:32, 0:02:40]: Aye. Aye. Thank you very much. Okay. So um Miss Halday, you sent us uh another link to get in a second session, please. Ladies and gentlemen, I'll see you shortly. [0:02:41, 0:02:41]: Okay. [0:02:42, 0:02:43]: Thank you. [0:02:43, 0:02:44]: Okay. [0:02:45, 0:02:46]: Okay. [0:04:18, 0:04:19]: Oh. [0:04:23, 0:04:25]: It's almost the people that [0:04:25, 0:04:25]: That's true. [0:04:26, 0:04:37]: All right. That was really strange, folks. Um I thought I was like, what is going on? Well it uh Mr. Bond, you you threw us a curveball. [0:04:41, 0:04:49]: Yeah. Yes, I thought they were I thought you guys were done. She's just telling me no sir, we were not. Why don't you go back to regular session? [0:04:49, 0:04:50]: Whoops. [0:04:52, 0:04:53]: Yeah. Yeah. [0:04:55, 0:04:57]: You guys can go back since we haven't went live. [0:05:07, 0:05:13]: Okay. Hey, hey, it tell tell them come back to the regular come back to special call regular main meeting. Tell them to come back to that. We'll close it out. [0:05:16, 0:05:17]: You're not muted, Mayor. [0:05:17, 0:05:18]: So this is a recording. [0:05:19, 0:05:22]: Yeah, I'm sorry. You're you're right. Thank you. I'm sorry about that. [0:05:23, 0:05:24]: Thank you, but anyway. [0:05:25, 0:05:25]: Okay. [0:05:26, 0:05:32]: Okay. All right. We're gonna come back to regular meeting and then uh we we've already had our discussion. [0:05:32, 0:05:38]: Right. We know where we're going. Thank you for that. All right. We'll wait till everybody gets here and then we'll close this thing out. [0:05:40, 0:05:47]: Oh, now we're live streaming. Okay. All right. Okay. [0:05:48, 0:05:50]: Are you talking? Is somebody talking? I can't hear. [0:05:51, 0:06:05]: Uh yeah yeah I you I can hear you. We're we're we're okay. Let's see here. What do we got here? We got uh okay, we got four of us back anyway. Five of us, I'm sorry. Five back. [0:06:08, 0:06:10]: Okay. Yeah. [0:06:13, 0:06:16]: We'll wait for a couple of minutes to get poor folks back and we'll close out. [0:06:19, 0:06:21]: Okay, Mr. Thomas is back. [0:06:23, 0:06:25]: Vanessa's coming back. All right. [0:06:27, 0:06:28]: I tell you what. [0:06:29, 0:06:35]: Okay, my number dog's acting up now. Okay, so let's see here. So all right, we got the entire Blount's not back yet. [0:06:38, 0:06:39]: All right. [0:06:41, 0:06:45]: I tell you what, uh [0:06:50, 0:06:51]: I'll tell you what we're gonna do. [0:06:51, 0:06:53]: We're gonna go ahead and uh [0:06:53, 0:07:01]: Well, I need a motion. We got a we've got a quorum here. So I need a motion to uh end our executive session, please. So move. Sir second. [0:07:03, 0:07:10]: I second. Miss Barber had her hand up. She seconds that. Clerk was taking notes. I need a motion to reconvene a special call meeting, please. [0:07:10, 0:07:30]: Some of them okay, Miss Ms. Gantt. Okay. I'll give uh Mayor Pro Tem a second. All right. Um ladies and gentlemen, we've had a special call meeting dealing with uh personnel matters. We uh have nothing to report at this time publicly, and we do have a quorum. Uh so uh we have our guidance, we have a quorum, so I'm [0:07:30, 0:07:33]: I'm gonna ask for a motion to end our special uh special call meeting. [0:07:34, 0:07:37]: Someone. Is there a second? Mayor Pro Tem, is there a second? [0:07:38, 0:07:40]: Mr. Thomas seconds that I [0:07:40, 0:07:41]: We'll stand adjourned. [0:07:42, 0:07:44]: Uh talk to you all soon. Take care. Enjoy your evening. [0:07:45, 0:07:45]: And uh [0:07:46, 0:07:46]: God bless you all. [0:07:47, 0:07:49]: Good night. Good night.

--- title: November 30 2021 Work Session Meeting date: 2021-11-30 source: 2021-11-30_November_30_2021_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:05:17, 0:05:18]: B. [0:05:21, 0:05:23]: Good evening. Good evening, everyone. [0:05:23, 0:05:27]: And we are recording on Facebook Live at this time. [0:05:28, 0:05:31]: What town do we have here? Okay. [0:05:33, 0:05:34]: Alrighty, so [0:05:36, 0:05:36]: Yeah. [0:05:41, 0:05:43]: Two million. [0:05:52, 0:05:55]: Here we go. All right. [0:06:02, 0:06:07]: Hello everyone. Good evening. Good evening to you. [0:06:08, 0:06:10]: One, two. [0:06:12, 0:06:13]: Three. [0:06:14, 0:06:15]: Yeah, four. [0:06:17, 0:06:18]: Here we go. All right. [0:06:23, 0:06:36]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, I have uh six o'clock and uh like to get this uh council work session Tuesday, November 30th. And uh I'll start it on time. And uh so I'd like to call the meeting to order. [0:06:36, 0:06:38]: And Madam Kirk, roll call, please. [0:06:42, 0:06:43]: Mayor Ford. Mm-hmm. [0:06:49, 0:06:51]: Are you able to hear me, Mayor Ford? [0:06:51, 0:06:51]: Pleasant. [0:06:52, 0:06:54]: May I appro Tim Alexander? [0:06:54, 0:06:56]: President. Councilwoman Barber. [0:06:56, 0:06:57]: President. [0:06:57, 0:06:58]: Councilman Blount. [0:07:01, 0:07:06]: Let the record reflect Councilman Blount is not in attendance. Councilwoman Gantt. [0:07:07, 0:07:08]: Present. [0:07:08, 0:07:10]: And Councilman Thomas. [0:07:10, 0:07:11]: Present. [0:07:11, 0:07:13]: Mayor Ford, you have a forum. [0:07:13, 0:07:14]: Thank you. [0:07:14, 0:07:18]: Okay, please uh I'm gonna do the invocation tonight, so please bow your heads. [0:07:18, 0:07:28]: Lord, thank you for bringing us together once again as we continue to do the city's business. Allow us to make good logical decisions for our movement forward and do the best thing for our citizens. [0:07:28, 0:07:32]: And have a real good dialogue as we continue to [0:07:32, 0:07:35]: do the citizens' business once again as well. [0:07:35, 0:07:38]: Continue to be with us always, Lord, in your name. Amen. [0:07:39, 0:07:43]: Amen. Okay. I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:07:46, 0:08:06]: Well, let me let me put it this, let me say this to you. I'd like to uh entertain an amendment that we uh move our executive session somewhat up into the agenda. Um what it amounts to is that our attorneys uh only have a limited amount of time with us this evening. [0:08:06, 0:08:24]: do some other commitments. So um they uh this is the election night in Atlanta and they have some other commitments in this aspect. So I'd like to entertain a motion that we uh move the agenda after the um old business and before our public hearing on the budget. [0:08:25, 0:08:29]: Well, first of all a question, do do they have something that they need to discuss with us or? [0:08:30, 0:08:40]: Yes, there is something uh discussing with in reference to real estate uh and also a za a Zeka session deals with uh uh any personnel or litigation issues, but primarily this is dealing with real estate. [0:08:41, 0:08:44]: Yeah, this will only it'll only be real estate. Angela. [0:08:44, 0:08:47]: Our real estate attorney is here and um Alan Peterson. [0:08:47, 0:08:48]: I hear. [0:08:49, 0:08:54]: And they wanted to give you all the updates in we have to give you the updates in executive session. [0:08:55, 0:09:02]: Uh so uh so uh so move the mayor like to add an additional uh item to that. Like to uh make a [0:09:03, 0:09:10]: Can we can we at least let let's let's vote on this first? Let's take let's take one at a time. So a motion's been made uh to do that. Is there a second? [0:09:12, 0:09:13]: I think [0:09:13, 0:09:15]: [555.6, 560.2]: Okay, Mr. Mr. Thomas, I believe I got Ms. Thomas' voice. He's second dad. All in favor, please indicate. [0:09:22, 0:09:25]: Okay. All right. So we're gonna put that right behind uh [0:09:26, 0:09:30]: Uh old business and before public hearing. All right, go ahead, sir. Mayor Protestant. [0:09:30, 0:09:37]: Yes, sir. I'd like to add an item to the agenda in reference to speed bumps on Winbrook Drive in the Winslow Eagles Landing subdivision. [0:09:39, 0:09:40]: All right, is there a second to that? [0:09:41, 0:09:42]: I second. [0:09:42, 0:09:44]: Okay, all in favor, please indicate. [0:09:45, 0:09:54]: All right, great, fantastic. And how about uh that is uh how about we'll make that uh new that's new business and so we'll make that item number 14. [0:09:57, 0:10:03]: Now I need a motion to uh adopt the entire agenda for this evening, please. So moved. [0:10:04, 0:10:05]: Is there a second? [0:10:07, 0:10:10]: All three, please indicate. Okay. [0:10:10, 0:10:30]: Thank you. All right. Thank you very much. You name this on that. All right. Uh what you have before you, ladies and gentlemen, are the uh draft minutes involving uh the special call meeting on the 20th of September, the council uh meeting on the eleventh of November, excuse me, the excuse me, uh October 11th. [0:10:30, 0:10:36]: Council, the count a special excuse me, the council work session on the 26th of October as well. [0:10:36, 0:10:44]: And we will actually review those. If there are any changes, please let the uh clerk know and we'll vote on those at our next meeting, which is December uh 13th as well. [0:10:45, 0:10:51]: On that note, uh Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments? We do have one public comment, Mary. [0:10:51, 0:10:51]: Go ahead. [0:10:51, 0:10:53]: Mr. Robert Kolpeck. [0:10:54, 0:10:57]: two seventy two cotton Indian Creek Road McDonald. [0:10:58, 0:10:58]: Okay. [0:10:59, 0:11:03]: And his comment is regarding noise mitigation. [0:11:04, 0:11:06]: For the residents near the amphitheater. [0:11:06, 0:11:10]: And also checking on the water features near the amphitheater. [0:11:12, 0:11:14]: There are no further comments, Mayor. [0:11:15, 0:11:25]: All right. Um we'll give an update to uh all that here in the next few days and Mr. Kolpeck can make uh some type of uh public statement on those issues as well. [0:11:25, 0:11:28]: Water features and noise mitigation. [0:11:29, 0:11:30]: All right. [0:11:31, 0:11:42]: On that note, uh informational session, uh item number four, Falcon Design Projects Update, Status and Timeline, Mr. Palmer and Adam Price, sir. Gentlemen, please. [0:11:48, 0:12:08]: Hey, thank you. Uh Adam, Skip, and Tyler are here. Uh John had to uh had a family emergency. Sorry he couldn't make it, but I think we can uh update you on a lot of projects. Okay. We've got a PDF uh presentation that's slightly different from the one we sent Vanessa, but it's got all the same information in it just a [0:12:08, 0:12:10]: different order. So uh [0:12:11, 0:12:14]: If I can, I will share my screen. [0:12:14, 0:12:15]: Okay. [0:12:17, 0:12:19]: I think they have to let us [0:12:24, 0:12:28]: I think you could loud on the oh there you go. There you go. All right. All right. [0:12:28, 0:12:30]: Hello, this is Angie Robinson at Parker Poe. [0:12:32, 0:12:37]: Yes, ma'am. Uh Hi. Hello, Council and Mayor Ford. How is it? How is everyone doing? [0:12:37, 0:12:44]: Just fine. Uh ma'am, you you're gonna come up a little later in executive session. Yeah, we're doing executive session a little uh earlier, so that's why I sent you so late now. [0:12:49, 0:12:55]: All right, you guys uh ready? Yeah, yeah, go ahead please. And feel free to [0:12:55, 0:13:15]: Uh ask questions. Uh we're going to go through it uh kind of one by one. Uh give you the high points, give you the updates. Uh first up East Atlanta, Lee Street modifications and intersections. Uh you guys want to roll with that? Well, as you know, these projects are already under contract. The contractor [0:13:15, 0:13:27]: out there on Lee Street right now has done all the utility locates, done their ENS. They're in the process of doing clearing operations right now for the entire area. The uh [0:13:28, 0:13:48]: We have received back uh our received uh Atlanta's approval for the new signals on East Atlanta. We have not received the Lee Street signals yet. Uh according to Tyler, the Thomason office is expecting those back immediate anytime now. Uh [0:13:48, 0:14:08]: You know, last week was Thanksgiving. There was probably a lag, but uh that's where we stand on those. And then the East Atlanta had to be resubmitted back to Thomaston uh for their formal permitting uh now that Atlanta's blessed the project. Uh they did approve the street print, and that is now uh part of that signal. [0:14:08, 0:14:28]: plan. So all of that is moving forward and uh we're just waiting on DOT for the last bit of the permitting. And again, we are I I'm sure your city attorneys are going to talk to you, but we are waiting on right of uh access uh to the properties, easements, et cetera. [0:14:28, 0:14:37]: All along those areas. But the contractor, like I told you, is he's going to concentrate on Lee Street, finish Lee Street, then move over to East Atlanta. [0:14:40, 0:14:45]: Sorry. Would you mind uh increasing the view or zooming into this? [0:14:47, 0:14:48]: Thank you. [0:14:50, 0:14:51]: Mm. [0:14:52, 0:15:02]: That's kind of what this is a brief summary of what Skip just went through. Uh the next uh exhibit was uh putting out cell fence on Lee Street. [0:15:03, 0:15:05]: And traffic control also. [0:15:06, 0:15:07]: Uh [0:15:08, 0:15:12]: And that's just a copy of our approved signal plans here. [0:15:12, 0:15:18]: From uh Georgia DOT showing the street print crossings and also the uh [0:15:18, 0:15:25]: The uh black poles that uh I believe we discussed uh some time back, they did approve them. [0:15:27, 0:15:28]: Okay. [0:15:29, 0:15:30]: That's good news. [0:15:31, 0:15:41]: Yeah, but as part of that, we'll there will be a change order that'll come with these projects to handle the street print and to handle the uh pole changes and the signal changes. [0:15:44, 0:15:47]: We'll have to sit with the contractor and get all that worked out. [0:15:51, 0:15:59]: All right. And as our next project's the Lee Street improvements, the parking lot, and the extension of the sidewalk. [0:16:00, 0:16:06]: Uh you know, we we had field visits on the 20th, I guess. You went out there. Correct. [0:16:06, 0:16:11]: Uh concept plan proposed proposed revision was submitted to the city on September twenty-first. [0:16:12, 0:16:18]: Followed up the last week of September, first week of October, waiting on approvals from C to finalize plans. [0:16:18, 0:16:23]: Plans for lease tree park improvements are ongoing, pending final decision from mayor council regarding the additional path. [0:16:24, 0:16:27]: Yeah, you should sketch here's the exhibit. [0:16:28, 0:16:29]: Yeah, you know. [0:16:30, 0:16:39]: Let me zoom out a little bit here. Yeah, if you notice the uh design has changed slightly uh in the parking, no, below. [0:16:40, 0:17:00]: Yeah, here's the Lee Street, the additional parking area. Here's the one. Yeah, initially the parking uh where those hammerheads are was going to go directly into the access to the uh uh roads, but because of topographic issues and traffic, it was determined it was a better flow pattern to get it away from that intersection. So you had three. [0:17:00, 0:17:10]: three different lanes of traffic instead of everybody converging at one. And the one question we we were asked to review, go back up, Adam. [0:17:10, 0:17:23]: That black heavy black line, uh, there was a comment from somebody on the council wanting to put another sidewalk on that side of that access road. And uh [0:17:24, 0:17:40]: Mr. Knighton had asked us to go review that. We did. We uh gave him a cost estimate uh for that work and asked for direction. And we were we're basically waiting on direction on that project right now, but here's the cost estimate for that work. [0:17:41, 0:17:46]: uh to determine if the council does want to put that sidewalk in. [0:17:47, 0:17:48]: All right. [0:17:49, 0:17:54]: All right, council. Any comments on this? Uh we want to go forward with this uh this additional sidewalk. [0:17:55, 0:17:56]: Uh thank Mayor. [0:17:56, 0:17:57]: Go ahead, please. [0:17:58, 0:18:02]: I think we had generally agreed upon that because we wanted the area to go. [0:18:02, 0:18:06]: To be well connected. This is a part of our comprehensive parts. [0:18:06, 0:18:10]: uh connection as well. All of those trails will be connected. [0:18:10, 0:18:11]: Going down uh [0:18:12, 0:18:14]: North Lee Street all the way to Bryant Street. [0:18:15, 0:18:16]: And um [0:18:16, 0:18:18]: It will just be connectivity. [0:18:18, 0:18:24]: And every everything that we wanted uh as part of this project is that we got these trails. [0:18:24, 0:18:25]: Ending. [0:18:25, 0:18:28]: Trails should be continuous at all points. [0:18:28, 0:18:29]: And not in so [0:18:29, 0:18:34]: And I believe uh at that point there was uh even a eighty thousand dollar contingency fund. [0:18:35, 0:18:37]: Still left in the амфітер. [0:18:38, 0:18:40]: uh budget at that point. [0:18:41, 0:18:44]: So do you wish us to proceed with the design on this? [0:18:45, 0:18:46]: Yeah, I certainly do. [0:18:46, 0:18:48]: Uh councillor, any other comments? [0:18:48, 0:18:59]: Yes, I want to know, um, is Mr. Wiggins on the line? I want to know, is this included in the 2021 budget or will we be including this in the 2022 budget? [0:19:02, 0:19:05]: Yeah, so I'm I'm here, Councilman. Um [0:19:06, 0:19:08]: This is this is part of the um [0:19:10, 0:19:11]: That three million. [0:19:12, 0:19:14]: That was slated for um [0:19:15, 0:19:17]: The roads of Atlanta Street. [0:19:18, 0:19:18]: And Lee. [0:19:19, 0:19:24]: So uh we will have to uh take a look at this and see this uh the sidewalk should [0:19:26, 0:19:29]: I just have to check and see. I I'm I don't wanna be uh [0:19:30, 0:19:32]: What three million are you referring to? [0:19:34, 0:19:36]: We had uh three million. [0:19:37, 0:19:41]: That was set up for the road work for the amphitheater. [0:19:42, 0:19:46]: It was um part of the splash four. [0:19:47, 0:19:48]: But you steal in there. [0:19:49, 0:19:55]: Yeah, well let me let me say this. Uh I think the three men was for the inter intersection itself, right there at uh Lee Street and [0:19:55, 0:20:01]: And North Henry's what I thought the three million was for. Uh now I could be mistaken, but that's what I thought. [0:20:02, 0:20:02]: Um [0:20:03, 0:20:08]: Mayor b uh I believe it was part of the entire project, all inclusive. [0:20:11, 0:20:14]: Any other comments? Mayor. Mayor. Go right ahead, please. [0:20:14, 0:20:17]: If the project I've I've before I [0:20:17, 0:20:20]: I mean, I don't definitely don't feel comfortable voting. [0:20:21, 0:20:22]: Until I know. [0:20:22, 0:20:28]: Whether or not we have the money within that three million set aside for the road project for the amphitheater. [0:20:28, 0:20:28]: Um [0:20:29, 0:20:30]: But and then [0:20:30, 0:20:32]: I agree that I think it's where [0:20:33, 0:20:35]: The roads, the East Atlanta and Lee Street. [0:20:36, 0:20:39]: But also my can if it it fits within that. [0:20:39, 0:20:42]: Then I'm I'm certainly okay because money was already [0:20:42, 0:20:44]: set aside and allocate it for it. [0:20:45, 0:20:46]: Um however [0:20:47, 0:20:49]: You know, that does not include. [0:20:50, 0:20:55]: the sound barriers and other discussions that we've talked about for the neighborhood that's directly adjacent. [0:20:56, 0:20:59]: Or uh that's being affected or [0:20:59, 0:21:02]: by the amphitheater. So I do want us to take that into consideration. [0:21:03, 0:21:03]: Um [0:21:04, 0:21:05]: We have other [0:21:05, 0:21:07]: projects and things that we want. [0:21:08, 0:21:08]: Um [0:21:08, 0:21:09]: to consider as well. [0:21:10, 0:21:14]: And I do agree that we do need connectivity with our trails. [0:21:14, 0:21:15]: They don't just stop. [0:21:16, 0:21:16]: They continue. [0:21:17, 0:21:18]: However [0:21:19, 0:21:23]: I don't know what that flow would look like or if that was part of our trail plan to have [0:21:24, 0:21:31]: Sidewalks on both. And as so long as it fits within that three million that was already set aside for that particular area and roads. [0:21:31, 0:21:33]: And I'm I'm great with it. [0:21:33, 0:21:36]: But I think we need to know those answers first. [0:21:37, 0:21:42]: Well they we have Falcon Design on the call. Miss Miss Falcon Design uh [0:21:43, 0:22:03]: Does uh what is the total project cost for these two projects? Is it does it exceed three million or is it uh under over what? Uh yeah, you you would ask me that. I have to go check my numbers uh on what the uh Lee Street East Atlanta projects are on the server. Uh it's in my folders. Hold on. [0:22:03, 0:22:03]: And I'll look. [0:22:06, 0:22:10]: And then in addition to that, we do have a million dollars that we bonded. [0:22:10, 0:22:13]: For uh connectivity and sidewalks. [0:22:14, 0:22:16]: Uh uh in the downtown area. [0:22:20, 0:22:20]: Yeah. [0:22:21, 0:22:27]: Any other comments uh while he's looking out uh why Falcon Design is checking us out. Any other comments from the council? [0:22:28, 0:22:39]: Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. Councilman Thomas. Yeah, go right here, sir. Um, I'm going to agree with everyone as far as what is needed. I would say yes to the need. [0:22:39, 0:22:42]: uh to to enhance the total of Lee Street. [0:22:43, 0:22:47]: But let me confirm I b I believe um this project. [0:22:48, 0:22:53]: came later. I do I do not think it was included uh in that amount because [0:22:54, 0:23:01]: Um, you know, we had sort of talked about the reconfiguration of Lee Street, the traffic light, et cetera, et cetera. [0:23:01, 0:23:04]: Um this project came much later. [0:23:05, 0:23:19]: Um and I think Councilman Blount was the one brought that forward. But I would agree with everyone that it needs to be done. And and if the funds are there, I think we definitely need to do it. Uh and I'm looking at [0:23:19, 0:23:21]: Uh with fact and I see um [0:23:22, 0:23:24]: An estimate on the [0:23:25, 0:23:28]: Lee Street looked like it was ninety two. [0:23:29, 0:23:29]: Um [0:23:30, 0:23:38]: But well, it seemed like you all are back now with with that information. But Mayor, I I'm in agreement that uh this project needs to be enhanced totally. [0:23:38, 0:23:39]: Would Lee Street? [0:23:39, 0:23:47]: Uh we just want to make sure that we can uh financially accommodate uh the total enhancement of [0:23:48, 0:24:07]: There's a minute. Yeah, I hear you. Go ahead, sir. Can somebody tell me what we're looking at? Is that the total cost right there? That's that's the bid cost uh of the the two projects, East Atlanta and Lee Street combined. Yeah, 2.644. And that includes go to the top a built-in contingency as well. [0:24:08, 0:24:09]: Um [0:24:10, 0:24:11]: Of two hundred thousand dollars. [0:24:13, 0:24:13]: Okay. [0:24:14, 0:24:20]: Okay, so the total budget was three million and we have two two six four with a contingency built in. [0:24:21, 0:24:21]: Yes. [0:24:22, 0:24:35]: And just be aware that uh, you know, just the street print alone. We we bid this as an alternate uh because the council had asked for that. Uh and uh yes, it's on there. Go to the bottom. [0:24:36, 0:24:37]: No. [0:24:38, 0:24:46]: I'm going. There you go. Not a big fan, not a big fan of this mouse. Yeah. There's the street print cost. There's your street print costs. Uh [0:24:47, 0:24:56]: uh for the two projects. So it's a hundred um a little over a hundred thousand dollars for both East Atlanta and Lee Street. [0:24:57, 0:24:58]: To do the uh street print. [0:24:59, 0:25:09]: All right. Well I what I saw is I saw a very interesting design. Go back to the rendering. You had like a a circle round a sa around a circle. [0:25:09, 0:25:16]: Uh right there at the um looks like the Lee Street side, there was a bricks, a paved circle there. [0:25:16, 0:25:18]: Is it what I saw? [0:25:20, 0:25:23]: Right at Lee Street in North Henry Boulevard. [0:25:25, 0:25:26]: You want this? [0:25:27, 0:25:35]: Yeah the uh on the approved signal plan that was decent like are are you talking about the approved signal plan? We're talking about this the approves. [0:25:36, 0:25:45]: Yeah there yeah that right there. Yeah that's the East Atlanta intersection. Yeah that's the East Atlanta approval. Okay, that's the East Atlanta one. Okay, and that circle uh is already [0:25:45, 0:25:47]: That's what the plan is right there. [0:25:48, 0:25:48]: Correct. [0:25:49, 0:25:53]: That's beautiful. What so that oh wow. Okay, man, that's gonna be [0:25:53, 0:25:54]: Yeah. [0:25:54, 0:25:55]: Yeah. [0:25:55, 0:25:57]: That's gonna be nice. [0:25:57, 0:25:58]: Okay. [0:25:58, 0:26:00]: All right, uh Councilman Thomas Gray, please. [0:26:01, 0:26:06]: Mayor Ford, my my concern is, and I know we're looking at some numbers. [0:26:06, 0:26:09]: But my concern is um making sure. [0:26:10, 0:26:19]: And I know Falcon has sort of given us that, but making sure that financially we're able to do it seems to be uh three. [0:26:20, 0:26:23]: project. We we're talking about the East Atlanta project. [0:26:24, 0:26:28]: The reconfiguration of Lee Street, the first initial [0:26:29, 0:26:35]: uh project and now we're talking about what we're looking at now the uh lee street [0:26:35, 0:26:38]: extension project and I'm looking at [0:26:38, 0:26:41]: The total estimate project cost [0:26:42, 0:26:43]: And so [0:26:43, 0:26:44]: Yeah. [0:26:44, 0:26:45]: If they're [0:26:46, 0:26:48]: Ms. Holiday, were you trying to get my attention? [0:26:48, 0:26:48]: No. [0:26:49, 0:26:52]: Okay. So my concern is if the funds are there. [0:26:53, 0:26:55]: To do and I'm saying all three. [0:26:56, 0:26:59]: Uh I'm in favor of that and it and it appears [0:26:59, 0:27:02]: Uh, even with the contention that there is enough. [0:27:03, 0:27:08]: um to do it. So um let me ask Falcon um is is my [0:27:09, 0:27:11]: Um assessment, is that correct? [0:27:11, 0:27:19]: It is, but uh the one thing that uh you need to be aware of is those two parking lots that are been added on Lee Street, we have not [0:27:19, 0:27:25]: uh done a cost estimate on those at this point in time. That's another uh dollar value. [0:27:26, 0:27:31]: Okay, so this is strictly that sidewalk going from Lee back into the amphitheater. [0:27:32, 0:27:36]: Right. And and and that that ninety-two thousand uh [0:27:37, 0:27:40]: Uh Mr. Thomas is just this right here. [0:27:40, 0:27:43]: And that goes back to uh Bryant Street, is that correct? [0:27:44, 0:27:53]: Well, it connects to what we were already doing on Lee Street. Um and and that sidewalk does go all the way back to Bryant. [0:27:53, 0:27:58]: Well uh for if if that is the case, Mayor, I I would think then [0:27:58, 0:28:05]: that we we could not make a decision uh if we're still in favor of the the parking spaces there. [0:28:05, 0:28:08]: I don't see how we can um agree or vote. [0:28:09, 0:28:17]: Unless um the additional parking is included, so we would know the total amount unless we're going to. [0:28:18, 0:28:21]: approval this uh in phases. It seems that [0:28:21, 0:28:27]: Uh we have the the financially we are able to do everything ex at this point. [0:28:27, 0:28:34]: That we know of, we're able to do everything except the addition of parking. So I don't know if council wants to approve. [0:28:35, 0:28:40]: to do that and then come back uh to approve the parking or do we want to do it all in one? [0:28:42, 0:28:56]: Well, I would tell you that I know the parking would be separate because it did come after the fact. But I mean it's up to the council decision, but I would tell you I would like for us to approve this this project tonight and then the parking come back for the additional approval uh at a later date. [0:28:57, 0:28:58]: That's my thought. [0:28:58, 0:29:05]: Excuse me, but as as soon as our design is to a point, we'll generate a cost estimate and get it to the council. It should be within the next week or so. [0:29:06, 0:29:22]: Well, Mayor, I I would agree also to make sure that the project is moving forward with the uh East Atlanta Road and with the initial uh Lee Street project. I would agree with you that we definitely need that to move. And I would agree also if we could come back. [0:29:22, 0:29:25]: And to include or to amend [0:29:25, 0:29:30]: uh the parking to the overall project. So I'd be in agreement with that. [0:29:30, 0:29:43]: Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. Yeah, unless we we just we certainly want to do everything that we can to keep these projects moving down the tracks. Uh the sub the spring and the concerts will be here before we know it. [0:29:44, 0:29:44]: That is correct. [0:29:45, 0:29:55]: So uh do I have a motion uh to what we where we what we do here. I need a motion, please. Yes, sir. I'm uh I will motion to approve uh the project as presented, including. [0:29:56, 0:29:58]: The additional uh sidewalk that we had uh [0:29:59, 0:30:00]: Discussed here. [0:30:00, 0:30:03]: To make sure that this project continues moving forward. [0:30:03, 0:30:04]: On time. [0:30:05, 0:30:06]: I second. [0:30:06, 0:30:08]: All right, fantastic. Any further discussion? [0:30:09, 0:30:16]: All in favor to all favor to most questions. One really quick question. So when is this project expected to be complete? [0:30:16, 0:30:17]: More than this is a [0:30:18, 0:30:19]: Yeah. [0:30:21, 0:30:23]: Falcon, can you answer that question, please? [0:30:23, 0:30:24]: Is my [0:30:26, 0:30:27]: I uh we could hear that. [0:30:28, 0:30:35]: When's when's the the project scheduled this particular project we're gonna vote on once approved? When are you expected to be complete? [0:30:36, 0:30:56]: That's going to depend on how you want to handle this. If you wanted to bit we we'd have to go out and you know do the survey, do the design. Uh and then the city has the option of doing a change order with the contractor that's on Lee Street to just have it roll into this project. And so, you know, it would be [0:30:56, 0:31:02]: uh basically continuous with the uh Lee Street project if the council chose to do it that way. [0:31:04, 0:31:07]: When will the Lee Street project be complete? [0:31:07, 0:31:08]: Yeah, uh [0:31:08, 0:31:28]: They have a four month uh timeline on their thing right now. But again, that's weather dependent, everything else. Uh there the entire project that we had was uh almost ten months between the two and that there's not a specific breakdown on Lee Street versus East Atlanta. The breakdown. [0:31:28, 0:31:32]: breakdown is both those projects have to be finished in that 10 month window. [0:31:34, 0:31:36]: Okay. Thank you. [0:31:36, 0:31:41]: All right. Now back to the mo motion has been made and been seconded. All in favor of motion, please indicate. [0:31:43, 0:31:43]: Uh [0:31:44, 0:31:57]: Uh okay. That's an unanimous decision. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Um gentlemen, I need to just get this particular uh piece of this contract and to my desk and I'll sign off on it as soon as possible. Yes, sir. All right, thank you. [0:31:58, 0:31:59]: All right. Thank you very much. [0:31:59, 0:32:19]: Uh this is Angie Robinson. Can I say one thing um just on these two projects? There are private property owners along this project that rights have to be acquired from before construction starts. I'm waiting on um title certifications to be finalized. Some are starting to trickle in and then [0:32:19, 0:32:37]: And we gotta make offers to these owners for the rights that need to be acquired. So and Angela, what do I just wanna have you just do a complete download for us in the executive session? Sure. I just wanna make sure the Falcon folks know and they should know that there's some parcels out there that we can't get on until we have those rights. [0:32:37, 0:32:41]: The contractor is not working on anything except public right of way and city owned properties. [0:32:42, 0:32:43]: Perfect. Thank you. [0:32:46, 0:32:48]: All right. Falcon, please continue. [0:32:49, 0:32:51]: Right. Next project's downtown alleyway. [0:32:53, 0:32:54]: This is [0:32:57, 0:33:05]: Yeah. This is the uh project off of Burke uh backing up to the uh uh downtown businesses. [0:33:06, 0:33:22]: The concept uh has been modified by the city staff recently. We're uh at a point where we produced two new easements or two new cost estimates or adjusted a cost estimate. The talk was to uh, yeah, please. [0:33:23, 0:33:27]: The original plan was to uh put in a uh [0:33:28, 0:33:43]: a uh paver driveway down the alley, put some landscaping adjacent to the buildings, have access to the buildings, and a uh GAB parking lot that was going to be temporary along with the delivery system that was permanent. [0:33:43, 0:34:03]: The uh new thought thought process or new request was to modify that and uh and we've already got drawings accordingly. You you don't have it here, but uh we've got approved drawings. Well, these are the approved drawings from the city that we just got back, but uh the new S the new uh [0:34:03, 0:34:23]: Request from the city staff was all the area adjacent to the uh buildings would no longer be landscaped, it would just be solid concrete uh going to the face of the buildings, and that the parking lot itself would become uh a paved parking lot. Uh so we uh looked at the costs on. [0:34:23, 0:34:35]: on that and essentially from the original cost estimate it it increases the cost of the project by about fifty thousand dollars to do what the uh uh you know [0:34:35, 0:34:39]: What's the difference between option one and option two? Option one is the original option. [0:34:40, 0:34:42]: Yeah, that's three hundred ninety five thousand dollars. [0:34:42, 0:34:48]: And option two is with the paving. So it's basically about$50,000 increase. [0:34:50, 0:34:57]: and and taking away some of that landscaping against the building and making it a a solid impervious surface. [0:34:58, 0:35:00]: So question. Go right in, sir. [0:35:00, 0:35:05]: So the beautification is in the landscape. And so is there a cosm is there a [0:35:05, 0:35:11]: Is there an engineering reason for moving the beautification or is it just a cost? [0:35:11, 0:35:31]: It was it was more a maintenance issue, but uh the beautification is going to be in the islands around the parking lot and the pavers. Uh and then right against the building, it's going to give them more usable space uh for their areas. We have a we have some screening uh at the back doors of [0:35:31, 0:35:50]: of each one of these uh facilities, a little uh privacy fence type thing where they can hide some of their stuff uh to keep it out of the way. But uh essentially it would be a lot more efficient from a maintenance standpoint and uh usability standpoint for those property owners. [0:35:51, 0:35:57]: Well, I'm certainly in in a pro in I certainly approve the paving instead of a having a gravel parking lot. [0:35:57, 0:35:58]: But they're also [0:35:59, 0:36:01]: Uh I I I approve of that. [0:36:01, 0:36:01]: Yeah. [0:36:02, 0:36:16]: Well, our the question I would have then is, you know, the uh we were asked just to look at paving. So we're talking about paving on the ground. Would you want to make this a full-fledged parking lot with curb and gutter and all that to really dress it off? [0:36:18, 0:36:38]: Well the question okay, that's a good point. But so the question is how much additional cost would that be that process as well? Uh curbing gutter is about twenty-five dollars a foot. I I don't know, you know, I I would say you got four or five hundred feet and there'll be a little bit more fill because you're changing you we'll be raising those islands essentially. Uh, but that's about [0:36:38, 0:36:50]: it, uh a little bit of maybe a little storm grains, you're probably looking at another uh$10,000 to$15,000 in that range for that kind of work. [0:36:51, 0:36:53]: All right. Mayor. Yeah, go ahead, sir. [0:36:54, 0:36:57]: Let me just say this for me and I'm speaking for me only. [0:36:57, 0:36:59]: Is that whatever we do? [0:36:59, 0:37:01]: We want to do it right. [0:37:01, 0:37:03]: Putting this parking lot there. [0:37:03, 0:37:06]: without curb and gutter would not be right. [0:37:06, 0:37:08]: And then if if we [0:37:09, 0:37:10]: The with what we have [0:37:11, 0:37:11]: Mm. [0:37:12, 0:37:15]: Co completing this parking lot in itself. [0:37:15, 0:37:27]: Some of this should be infrastructure uh that's necessary in order to do that to be able to use water and sewer funds and uh pot potentially uh ARPA funds, is that correct? [0:37:29, 0:37:33]: Because this is this that's this is considered infrastructure, isn't it? [0:37:35, 0:37:49]: Seemed like it would be be right. I don't know if other anybody has any other comments on that or not, but uh we'll have to check into to make sure that we can utilize those funds. But I'm I'm in agreement with you. I I figure that we should be able to dress it up properly. Um [0:37:50, 0:37:55]: Anyway, um if if you're done, Mayor Potem, I'm gonna move on. Uh Miss Braggs, you have your hand up. [0:37:57, 0:38:06]: Yes, sir. Um I just wanted to make the comment with regard to the curb and gutter. The reason we um originally [0:38:07, 0:38:09]: Um had this slated for [0:38:09, 0:38:12]: Um just the gravel parking lot. [0:38:12, 0:38:18]: was because we wanted to make sure that this space was still available for future development. [0:38:18, 0:38:20]: We did not want to put in [0:38:20, 0:38:26]: a great deal of asphalt, sidewalk material, curb and gutter, that sort of thing. [0:38:27, 0:38:31]: because we wanted it to be development ready. [0:38:32, 0:38:34]: Um putting in the additional asphalt. [0:38:34, 0:38:39]: In all of the other um accoutrements that you all are speaking of. [0:38:39, 0:38:46]: might make it less attractive for a developer to come in and want to have to remove all of that. [0:38:47, 0:38:57]: But with that being said, I do want to say that after we had our meeting with the property owners in that area. [0:38:57, 0:39:12]: they were very um in favor of having at least the areas that are currently paved, um the asphalt area that is currently paved to to be repaved again. So they were uh very much [0:39:13, 0:39:18]: um against the gravel. So that is why I requested that [0:39:18, 0:39:22]: um Falcon um our Falcon designers go back and [0:39:23, 0:39:24]: Um put in [0:39:24, 0:39:25]: The [0:39:25, 0:39:28]: Asphalt give us a cost on the asphalt. [0:39:28, 0:39:33]: Um because they did make that request that the gravel not be put in place. [0:39:34, 0:39:35]: But um I [0:39:36, 0:39:39]: do want to caution us with regard to the curb and gutter. [0:39:39, 0:39:45]: Um, if we want to attract some development for that space because we are trying to create [0:39:46, 0:39:50]: that city square that was depicted in our RSVP. [0:39:50, 0:39:57]: We don't want to do a lot of infrastructure in that space if it's going to be torn out eventually by a future developer. [0:39:59, 0:40:06]: Well, I d I don't know if that's well, I I understand that, but uh additional parking space is always something I think we would need as well. But once again [0:40:06, 0:40:10]: was have to get query the the council on what time thoughts you have. So the [0:40:10, 0:40:24]: Anybody else on the council have any other comments? Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please, sir. Uh yeah, before Mrs. Bragg spoke, that was going to be my concern. I I think whatever we do in that area, I'm I'm in favor of the the parking area, but I think [0:40:25, 0:40:28]: Everything we do have to line up with the [0:40:28, 0:40:32]: Overall uh comprehensive plan. [0:40:32, 0:40:36]: uh for uh our our downtown um [0:40:36, 0:40:37]: re redevelopment. [0:40:37, 0:40:44]: So um I I'm gonna agree with Mrs. Bragg and I I think we may have to revisit that. [0:40:44, 0:40:48]: To make sure that everything we do, we don't want to waste money. [0:40:49, 0:40:56]: uh um you know with curbing gutters if it's not if those uh spaces are not conducive to [0:40:57, 0:41:01]: the overall plan because um and I don't want to get too far into [0:41:02, 0:41:10]: um, you know, uh businesses coming in and that that kind of conversation. But I think we need to keep in mind that we are [0:41:10, 0:41:11]: uh opened. [0:41:12, 0:41:15]: uh for business uh in that particular area. [0:41:16, 0:41:17]: So [0:41:17, 0:41:18]: Not [0:41:18, 0:41:27]: Getting too deep into this discussion. I think we need to make sure that everything that we do in that area fits. [0:41:27, 0:41:30]: With the overall master plan. [0:41:30, 0:41:33]: for revitalization in our downtown. [0:41:34, 0:41:35]: Oh yeah. [0:41:35, 0:41:36]: Go ahead, sir. [0:41:36, 0:41:38]: I just have one question. So [0:41:38, 0:41:44]: Uh this area is designated for parking in the RSVP, is it not? [0:41:46, 0:41:52]: No, sir. That particular area is designated for um future construction. [0:41:53, 0:42:13]: What what is what was going to be constructed there? Because it's behind what is this? This is behind what? The this is behind um Martin Luther King Senior Heritage Trail. This is the area that is right next to um Fletcher and Sons automotive. The grassy area is beside Fletcher and Sons at the bottom of the screen. [0:42:13, 0:42:21]: Screen that kind of moved it off of the if you move that move it the page back up, you'll see Fletcher and Sons on the corner. There's a grassy area there. [0:42:22, 0:42:29]: And then there is a paved area at the top of that grassy area. And that is currently where. [0:42:30, 0:42:32]: Um there is some parking, but that [0:42:32, 0:42:39]: particular um area. The asphalt is very broken and um unsightly at this point. [0:42:39, 0:42:44]: Where where is the Ted Strickland parking at? I see Ted Strickland. Where's the parking? I don't see it indicated. [0:42:45, 0:42:57]: Right behind, yeah, where the cursor is right now. That's where um parking is currently available for the Ted Strickland. And that is where the old um police station was taken out. [0:42:57, 0:43:12]: Okay, so okay. So how um I'm now I'm totally confused. So how would the park I I thought that's where we were in in this drawing. I thought we were behind uh the Ted. But this is the empty park, that is the parking lot. [0:43:12, 0:43:13]: That lines up [0:43:14, 0:43:16]: Uh where it is uh it's currently vacant. [0:43:16, 0:43:17]: There now, correct? [0:43:18, 0:43:18]: Yes, sir. [0:43:20, 0:43:21]: Okay, so [0:43:22, 0:43:26]: If this was not in the RSVP, how did we end up with [0:43:26, 0:43:29]: The parking suggestion there versus [0:43:29, 0:43:31]: Improving the parking behind the tid. [0:43:33, 0:43:53]: Um this was not necessarily a parking improvement project. This was just to um correct some of the um I guess drainage issues that are in the back of the alleyway and in that particular lot, and also to correct um the asphalt issues. There are potholes and other um [0:43:52, 0:43:53]: Um [0:43:53, 0:43:57]: I guess unsightly conditions in that particular area. [0:43:58, 0:44:05]: So it was basically just to clean it up and to um pave the alleyway itself. [0:44:05, 0:44:10]: Okay, so in the RSVP then this is the anchor building location. [0:44:11, 0:44:16]: When you refer to anchor building the the mixed the right right below where when you [0:44:17, 0:44:24]: When you're looking at the rendering of the video on the RSVP, there's a mixed use building in this location. Is that correct? [0:44:25, 0:44:40]: It is a mixed use it mixed juice is um prescribed for that particular space, the entire space, and then if you were to move past the Ted Strickland, um there is also um future proposed mixed use. [0:44:40, 0:44:45]: Um past the Ted Strickland on Berk Street. So if you were to move the um [0:44:46, 0:44:47]: The map up a little more. [0:44:47, 0:44:55]: You would be able to see where the other proposed development is. Well, well, that that's what I'm saying. I'm totally confused because I thought we were right. [0:44:55, 0:45:14]: behind uh where the TED is. No, this should not even no sir. This should not be behind the you're actually behind CNL Beauty Salon, um the um Barrie Street building and the building that the city currently owns, which is one fourteen MLK. [0:45:14, 0:45:26]: So so in essence, none of this parking should be there because we should be focusing on improving the parking behind the TED, which is which I thought this is what we were doing. So in essence [0:45:26, 0:45:27]: This should be [0:45:27, 0:45:28]: uh [0:45:28, 0:45:32]: raw land or uh t in order for the future [0:45:32, 0:45:35]: possible anchor building to go in this location. [0:45:36, 0:45:43]: That is what is proposed for that site, some sort of future development. And that was the reason why we initially [0:45:44, 0:45:50]: did not want to put down asphalt and make this into a parking lot. People park there now. [0:45:51, 0:45:53]: Бфорче перпис. [0:45:53, 0:45:56]: We plan to have a building there. [0:45:58, 0:46:01]: Okay. N now now I understand. I thought we were behind [0:46:02, 0:46:12]: uh the TED and we were working on improving the parking behind the TED, which which is what we should be doing. But uh any behind the TED is a part of the Breezeway. [0:46:13, 0:46:13]: Mm-hmm. [0:46:13, 0:46:24]: The Breezeway connectivity that is proposed as phase two of this project would handle the parking behind the Ted Strickland, but that is a part of phase two. [0:46:25, 0:46:32]: the breezeway portion. So in essence, this is a totally new project that has been introduced into what what was going to happen. [0:46:33, 0:46:40]: No, sir. This is not new. We've been talking about this parking is a totally new phase. [0:46:40, 0:46:46]: 'Cause this parking wasn't this parking is this so this parking is not part of the RSBP at all, is it? [0:46:47, 0:46:52]: This is parking that was already existing there. That's why I was saying we were not trying to [0:46:52, 0:46:56]: put asphalt we were going to have just a gravelled um [0:46:57, 0:47:02]: space back there so it would be ready for development. However [0:47:02, 0:47:06]: There has been some um when we spoke with the [0:47:07, 0:47:11]: current property owners um when we had our meeting [0:47:11, 0:47:21]: they were not in favor of having um gravel placed back there because they have been used to having asphalt parking back there. [0:47:22, 0:47:27]: But that is up to the council as to whether or not they would want to put [0:47:27, 0:47:29]: Asphalt back there to [0:47:29, 0:47:33]: Um accommodate those um business owners who [0:47:34, 0:47:40]: are currently parking back there and would like to see asphalt returned back there or if you would like to [0:47:40, 0:47:43]: um start moving toward having that area. [0:47:44, 0:47:46]: uh prepared for future development. [0:47:46, 0:47:51]: So in essence what will happen is the you would put the asphalt back there temporarily. [0:47:52, 0:47:56]: Uh yes, sir. Okay. Okay. Now I I I I was off base. I I I [0:47:56, 0:48:00]: I pull back. So yeah, that would be my recommendation. [0:48:00, 0:48:00]: Okay. [0:48:01, 0:48:16]: Councilman Thomas, go ahead, please. Uh yes, Mayor Pro Tem, I was going to um suggest and recommend that you do pull back somewhat because I I think your orientation is is a little off on on the on the on the projected plan. [0:48:16, 0:48:18]: And I I think some of your [0:48:18, 0:48:21]: uh understanding could be had [0:48:21, 0:48:22]: Offline. [0:48:22, 0:48:25]: Uh but it but yeah, I I mean [0:48:25, 0:48:28]: Just knowing the plan, I I would say that [0:48:28, 0:48:29]: Yo [0:48:29, 0:48:48]: You're miss you're misunderstanding uh what's actually to come, but um since you've already pulled back, I would just sort of just let it go at that and we move on. And I think uh some of your questions and concern could be answered uh offline somewhere because we don't really want to get too deep into [0:48:48, 0:48:50]: Um, you know [0:48:50, 0:48:52]: Some of the [0:48:52, 0:48:54]: discussions of [0:48:56, 0:48:57]: And I'll leave it at that. [0:48:59, 0:49:19]: All right. So back to you, Falcon. So otherwise, uh, for you you asked about curve and gutter. So I would think now that um that is off the table at this point. And um you're just going to uh submit or or or talk to us about some of some of this uh paving to be done and this. [0:49:19, 0:49:21]: Aspect is what I gather now. [0:49:26, 0:49:46]: Yes. Uh like I say, we were we understood it was supposed to be temporary parking, but when the asphalt was introduced, that's when we, you know, wanted to know how long a frame, whether or not you wanted to do the aesthetics of that, et cetera. But that's not a problem. Uh we'll we can put that all together. [0:49:46, 0:50:06]: As a matter of fact, we already have uh they're finalizing all of that as we speak. And then the only thing that would be uh since we do have approved uh design plans from the city staff, uh the only thing that we would be waiting on, which I guess the attorneys will talk to you some more about is is easements and uh acquisitions. [0:50:06, 0:50:08]: Along that the alleyway. [0:50:09, 0:50:11]: Okay. Yeah. [0:50:11, 0:50:17]: Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. The the appropriate question is is when when when will this project start and when will it end? [0:50:17, 0:50:19]: Now that we've made this decision. [0:50:20, 0:50:24]: Uh it's gonna be totally up to the acquisition of properties. [0:50:24, 0:50:25]: Oh. [0:50:27, 0:50:27]: All right. [0:50:28, 0:50:38]: All right. And so um attorneys, uh you obviously this is somewhat new to you at this point. And and uh you have any idea how how how long this may take? [0:50:42, 0:50:48]: But hope was and tell me, Ms. Robinson, what you think. We were going to these were all going to be things we're going to discuss in executive sessions. Okay. [0:50:49, 0:50:53]: I could just say title works in the process right now. All right. Okay. It's for Falcon's benefit. [0:50:53, 0:50:56]: Okay, thank you. All right, Falcon, continue on, please. [0:50:58, 0:51:01]: All right, uh next project. [0:51:02, 0:51:06]: Is Smith Barnes sewer collection system rehab force main rehab and replacement. [0:51:07, 0:51:21]: Yeah, that's bidding this week. Uh we're waiting on that. That's a C D BG project, by the way, that uh yeah, the city's getting uh a little over three hundred thousand dollars uh in grant money for this work and uh [0:51:21, 0:51:35]: Uh hopefully we'll uh as soon as we get get the bids in and we bet the contractors and the you know the the uh council approves a award, uh we'll we'll be putting a contractor to work. [0:51:37, 0:51:41]: All right. Thank you. Any questions, counsel, about this? [0:51:43, 0:51:48]: I do, I do have a question. Go right here, please. Uh project award and execution of contracts. [0:51:48, 0:51:52]: is estimated to be an additional sixty days. Why is that? [0:51:53, 0:52:11]: That's the time frame that you the city is basically taken uh from the time of award till uh execution or time of posting of bid to award. Yeah. That's all that's all. It's it that's been the norm that's uh happened uh currently. [0:52:14, 0:52:34]: I mean it's gonna be posted for 30 days for bid. Well it's already been posted. It's bidding this week. Yep. Uh the contracts will come out. Uh like I say, contractors, the procurement department will vet the contractor and uh make recommendations to the council. But uh like I say, uh previous projects have been [0:52:34, 0:52:38]: Approximately sixty days before council uh awarded contract. [0:52:39, 0:52:42]: Okay, no, we need to cut that down to at least 30 days. [0:52:42, 0:52:47]: after council approves the recommendation to award. [0:52:47, 0:53:07]: That should be less than 30 days. Well, once the council approves recommendation award and we're notified, uh we immediately send out the contract documents to the uh contractor for execution and then they return to the city for you know for their side of it. So again, uh as fast as uh [0:53:07, 0:53:15]: uh the council award or makes the award, uh contracts will be going within a day or two to the contractor. [0:53:15, 0:53:20]: Right. So that sixty days that you have there it sh is a bit [0:53:21, 0:53:21]: Much. [0:53:22, 0:53:23]: Hello. [0:53:23, 0:53:36]: Should actually be lingered to that's just an arbitrary number. That other projects that have been recently have taken about that long before we got a recomm before we were notified that the council had awarded the uh approved the award. [0:53:37, 0:53:38]: Okay, thank you. [0:53:41, 0:53:42]: Any other questions? [0:53:43, 0:53:45]: All right, continue on, please. [0:53:46, 0:53:50]: Sign design, wayfinding signs. [0:53:52, 0:53:53]: We got an update on that. [0:53:57, 0:53:59]: Go right, yeah. [0:54:01, 0:54:01]: Yeah. [0:54:03, 0:54:23]: Again, uh we've met with the city staff. Uh we're going to they want to do an overlay of uh uh the wayfinding signs with other operations that are currently going on and uh try and work on phasing the uh these signs in and do a site-specific. [0:54:23, 0:54:34]: design for each one, but the city staff is going to be doing the research on where they want to put where the signs will do the most for the city. [0:54:35, 0:54:46]: These were some of the documents. These are the signed design documents that were uh reviewed by the city. Well they they were submitted to the city back in August and we're waiting for approval. [0:54:47, 0:54:48]: Okay, maybe. [0:54:48, 0:54:49]: Yes, sir. [0:54:49, 0:54:55]: Okay. Uh uh with all due respect, that we have made the decision on where the signs were going to go. [0:54:55, 0:54:56]: This council [0:54:57, 0:54:57]: In a retreat. [0:54:59, 0:55:03]: plotted out where we wanted the signs to be with you on the call. [0:55:07, 0:55:25]: We we have the location, but now you talk about site specific issues that the sign has to fit that area and there's probably for for like the gateway signs, there's gonna have to be land acquisition, et cetera. And that's what uh the uh development people want to take a look at uh in-house. [0:55:26, 0:55:31]: This is I imagine this is part of our executive session issue that we need to discuss, I b I would imagine. [0:55:33, 0:55:34]: Is that correct? [0:55:35, 0:55:35]: Mm. [0:55:36, 0:55:42]: I don't know anything about w uh I don't have a way finding signs and um matter open at Parker Poe. [0:55:43, 0:55:44]: Okay. [0:55:46, 0:55:47]: All right. [0:55:49, 0:56:02]: So well what I'm scrolling through and showing you are the plans, the formal design plans that were submitted for approval from the city. If you're wondering what I'm scrolling through. [0:56:04, 0:56:10]: And these were the uh plans a while back that were approved by uh the city in a meeting. [0:56:13, 0:56:33]: All right. So the d delay is because we need additional acquisition of something. You said here earlier. Is that what it there's going to be required uh some land acquisition for some of these signs? Uh the in meetings with staff it was determined that the the initial push would be to go ahead and get all the uh wayfarers. [0:56:33, 0:56:53]: Finder pedestrian signs in the downtown corridor and uh move forward with those and uh then do the like I say site specific uh where you actually have to go to a property and determine whether it fits, how how it fits, and uh you know, on on these larger signs that uh [0:56:53, 0:57:00]: are going to have to acquire either easements or actual you know fee simple property. [0:57:02, 0:57:03]: Yeah. [0:57:07, 0:57:27]: So the way ahead is to go forward and do this, correct? Nothing. We like I say the city staff is working on this as we speak and they'll be giving us direction very shortly on on uh if they want to do the phase one uh or you know do it in phases or whether [0:57:27, 0:57:42]: they want, but they were going to go look at physical locations and determine you know accessibility and uh usability and and whether it was uh reasonable property for these type of activities. [0:57:43, 0:57:47]: Okay, so when you say staff, who specifically is gonna go out? [0:57:48, 0:57:59]: Well we were talking we were talking to Becca and her staff. Brecca. Brecca, I'm sorry. Brecca Johnson. Um guys, if if if I may, uh Mayor, if I may. [0:57:59, 0:58:19]: So myself, Deshus Aaron and Alan Peterson um have met with Falcon to discuss, you know, what the project is. Of course, we've been brought into it, you know, over the last you know, couple of weeks and just trying to get an understanding of what you know how many signs are being proposed, funding sources, which is a must, and [0:58:19, 0:58:35]: what how we're gonna phase the project. So that is what's happening now. There has not been provided any quotes for any of the signs. So that is something that staff will reach out to a couple of sign companies to get that information so that we can determine [0:58:36, 0:58:49]: what where the funding sources are going to be, how much it's going to cost, um, so that we can move forward. We're thinking with downtown because that overlay area for downtown has already been outlined. [0:58:49, 0:59:01]: And with future annexation needs and things like that, we want to make sure that we take some time to go back through and ensure that we're properly assessing each of those signs. [0:59:04, 0:59:08]: And so I'm I'm confused because I thought [0:59:08, 0:59:11]: When the council reviewed this and [0:59:11, 0:59:20]: We identified the areas in which these wayfindings were going to go and which types of signs to use in various locations. [0:59:20, 0:59:22]: I thought falcons. [0:59:22, 0:59:25]: was going to get quotes on who was going to [0:59:26, 0:59:30]: Prepare the sounds, build the sounds, but non teles. [0:59:30, 0:59:36]: When should we expect that all these signs will be installed? [0:59:36, 0:59:40]: or at least the first phase, as many as they can be installed. [0:59:45, 0:59:55]: Ms. Barber, I would say that in working with the consultants, we have to establish costs initially and where the funding source is going to come from. [0:59:55, 1:00:00]: Um once that's established, we would bring back something to the council. [1:00:00, 1:00:03]: For us to move forward with that phase again. [1:00:03, 1:00:07]: the initial portion would be the downtown area since it's already established. [1:00:07, 1:00:13]: And we definitely want to have some signage uh for what you see on the screen for the areas in the downtown area. [1:00:14, 1:00:15]: Okay, Mr. Wiggins. [1:00:16, 1:00:18]: Um wayfinding signage. [1:00:18, 1:00:21]: Was that not in the budget for 2021? [1:00:22, 1:00:24]: More too, multiple. [1:00:24, 1:00:28]: Yeah, it was in there. We was gonna use some hotel motel. [1:00:28, 1:00:29]: Okay. [1:00:29, 1:00:34]: But we initially haven't hadn't gotten I I have not seen any kind of cost. [1:00:34, 1:00:36]: For the science. But [1:00:37, 1:00:41]: Like uh Councilman Zana said, hotel motel was the primary source. [1:00:43, 1:00:51]: Okay. All right. So now that we've established where the funding is going to come from, when should we expect? [1:00:51, 1:00:55]: That at least the first phase of these signs will be installed. [1:00:56, 1:00:58]: Were ordered and installed. [1:01:03, 1:01:20]: If if the city wants to do this in phases and do the pedestrian wayfinders, we can put together a package right now that uh where you put it out for bid. Uh and you know go through your procurement department or or your procurement department can go directly, however you want to do it. [1:01:25, 1:01:35]: All right, so let's do it the most effective but but uh effective way, cost efficient way and uh with the right data and information and do it in phases and start with the downtown area if we can. [1:01:36, 1:01:37]: And may Mayor. [1:01:37, 1:01:38]: Yes, sir. [1:01:38, 1:01:47]: Uh with all due respect. Uh I think what we really want was the focus here was to get these signs up to get people to the amphitheater. [1:01:47, 1:01:52]: It wasn't to focus on downtown'cause when people come, they're gonna be coming primarily. [1:01:52, 1:01:57]: to get to the amphitheater. So to direct people off the interstate to [1:01:57, 1:02:04]: uh the amphitheater was uh the was the primary goal of what we were trying to do here, I think. So um [1:02:07, 1:02:11]: All right. So but I'm sorry, maybe we need to poll the rest of the council, but I thought that was [1:02:12, 1:02:15]: What we were trying to do was to get people to Merrymanders to [1:02:15, 1:02:17]: I give people to the amphitheater. [1:02:17, 1:02:24]: And that thing, that was the part that not necessarily cause I re really was in downtown but the amphitheater right now. [1:02:26, 1:02:26]: Mayor. [1:02:27, 1:02:32]: Yes, sir. Go ahead. Yes, ma'am. Go ahead. I'm sorry. Well, that wasn't mine, Tit. We've we've spoken of the way [1:02:33, 1:02:35]: Finding signs. [1:02:35, 1:02:37]: Even prior to our downtown [1:02:37, 1:02:39]: I mean, even prior to the amphitheater. [1:02:39, 1:02:41]: I think that there's just a need. [1:02:42, 1:02:45]: in general for our wayfinding signs to include Merrill Manders. [1:02:46, 1:02:48]: Um that has been there and and [1:02:49, 1:02:54]: that our community well at the time of Ted Strickland and Mirmander that our community [1:02:54, 1:02:58]: And other communities use on a weekly basis. [1:02:59, 1:03:01]: So I I thought it was important that we had it [1:03:01, 1:03:03]: For our future purposes. [1:03:04, 1:03:05]: And and now it's even [1:03:06, 1:03:08]: enhanced important [1:03:08, 1:03:10]: Because of the amphitheater. [1:03:10, 1:03:15]: I can agree with that, but that wasn't my reasoning for wanting the white finding signs. [1:03:15, 1:03:19]: No, I agree with your assessment, which is the second assessment which was [1:03:19, 1:03:24]: It was the overall. But my point was that the amphitheater made it urgent. [1:03:28, 1:03:35]: All right. So the priority would be the w wayfinding on the on the major roadway or the downtown area. [1:03:37, 1:03:54]: And uh I think the major road area would be c will cost uh will we'll have to have uh more time in reference to, I guess, dealing with the rights of way, things that nature. I'm only assuming that. But anyway, um, what are the thoughts we have here before we as we try to make the decision how we want to go forward? [1:03:57, 1:04:09]: My thoughts are to get as many of them up as we can. Yes. And then proceed with further, you know, and proceed with the the others when when they're available when we when we're able to. [1:04:09, 1:04:15]: All right. What is that focus on downtown? Is that focus on six seventy five and seventy five? Where does that where's that focus? [1:04:18, 1:04:23]: As many as you can. I mean, what where's the where if if we're gonna do in phases, what's the primary what's the first phase here? [1:04:27, 1:04:41]: I'm thinking uh along the seventy-five, I think we're talking about the same thing. We're trying to get people to downtown. Okay. But the way that they're the way that they're gonna get there is through our seventy-five and and and the major intersections. [1:04:41, 1:04:45]: getting them there. So I think we're really talking about the same thing, is it [1:04:45, 1:04:46]: We just [1:04:46, 1:05:00]: Uh we wanna do them all, but they're all gonna eventually going to be done. But what needs to be done first? I mean to me, we got four thousand people coming to town twice a month for a whole season. That will see appear to be those folks [1:05:00, 1:05:04]: Who don't know the city, who aren't aware of what we're doing. [1:05:04, 1:05:16]: can get to downtown. We could put the Merle Manders is going to be on thattt sign too. City Hall is going to be on the same sign. All of those businesses in downtown, not just the amphitheater, is going to be on the sign. [1:05:20, 1:05:20]: Correct. [1:05:23, 1:05:24]: Mr. Thomas, do you have any comments, sir? [1:05:29, 1:05:34]: had to get off the mute. I I would agree with that assessment. I I think once folks [1:05:35, 1:05:39]: on the outskirts coming in. I think once they are in downtown. [1:05:39, 1:05:42]: I think some of these location become obvious. [1:05:43, 1:05:44]: Um, but again [1:05:45, 1:05:47]: What is the um [1:05:48, 1:05:49]: Immediate [1:05:50, 1:05:54]: Um completion, what can we get done now? [1:05:54, 1:05:57]: What is gonna take longer to to to have done? [1:05:58, 1:05:59]: But I would agree that [1:06:00, 1:06:02]: Once you get folks into downtown. [1:06:02, 1:06:06]: And then I think some of these other locations become obvious, but [1:06:06, 1:06:11]: But just to answer your question, what we can get done now, I think we need to get that done. [1:06:12, 1:06:14]: Um and then you you it [1:06:15, 1:06:17]: If if some of the other things are gonna take longer [1:06:18, 1:06:36]: then that becomes, you know, sort of problematic. But um basically though, if you get them into downtown, I think some of these other locations become obvious, but I do agree we have to make a decision tonight. So we can definitely keep keep moving forward and getting the wayfinding because it's it's been way too long already. [1:06:37, 1:06:51]: So if I understand correctly, then we're looking primarily initially part of phase one would be the from the major highways, major roadways to get folks directed to the downtown area versus concentrating on what's internally the downtown. Is that so I don't understand? [1:06:51, 1:06:53]: I I would say so because [1:06:53, 1:07:00]: Uh folks on the outskirts are not gonna be able to see it anyway if they can't get downtown. So you got to get them downtown first. [1:07:00, 1:07:01]: All right. [1:07:02, 1:07:14]: So with that said, if that's the the way the phase one, then uh how can not only Falcon, but how can our staff go ahead and work towards this process so we can get this phase one taken care of as soon as possible? [1:07:15, 1:07:20]: Well, mayor, if I may continue, I I I think some of the the smaller details [1:07:20, 1:07:25]: I think the staff and faculty will just have to come together and get some of those things or iron out. [1:07:25, 1:07:28]: I I think if we give them the approval. [1:07:28, 1:07:32]: Uh we want to start with the outskirts first. [1:07:32, 1:07:42]: I think that's our um obligation and responsibility. Then I think from that it get handed off to faculty and the staff for them to work out the small details. [1:07:43, 1:07:43]: All right. [1:07:45, 1:07:48]: All right, so this we need to put that to a a vote, a motion and a vote. [1:07:49, 1:07:50]: I would say so. [1:07:50, 1:07:51]: Go right in, sir. [1:07:53, 1:07:54]: I need a motion. [1:07:55, 1:07:55]: And a second. [1:07:58, 1:07:59]: What would the motion be? [1:08:00, 1:08:14]: Mayor Pro Tem, would you like to go ahead and make that motion? Yes, sir. I will make a motion that we tas staff with uh working on the major arteries to get to funnel people uh into downtown uh as the priority in the phase one. [1:08:14, 1:08:16]: uh of the [1:08:16, 1:08:18]: Wayfinding signage as we move forward. [1:08:19, 1:08:21]: Uh in an expeditious manner. [1:08:21, 1:08:22]: I second that motion. [1:08:23, 1:08:24]: All right. Any further discussion? [1:08:25, 1:08:27]: If not, all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:08:28, 1:08:28]: Uh [1:08:29, 1:08:29]: Okay. [1:08:30, 1:08:33]: Ms. Barber, I can't see your hand. Let me move. I guess you voted for that. [1:08:33, 1:08:37]: Okay, there you go. Thank you very much. All right, thank you for that. [1:08:37, 1:08:47]: All right, so now we have our marching orders there. Um okay, Falcon, any any anything else further in your presentation? Yes. Yes. Go right ahead, please. [1:08:52, 1:09:12]: As you know, the the LMIG project uh uh was held up because of a contractor uh confusion. Uh that project, LMIG 2021, as the notice proceed was issued effective March 2022, which is when the contractor could go to work. That one's uh in the basically contractor. [1:09:12, 1:09:32]: Contracted and ready to go. LMIG 2022 is being bid the end of this month. And we expect that one to start almost the same time when it's released. So that you'll have, I think that's a total of almost 31 or 32 roads getting resurfaced at [1:09:32, 1:09:52]: that time. Uh then Love Street, go to the go to the next. Uh and I'm sure the uh attorneys will be discussing this with you. Uh this is the fire station on the corner of Love Street and uh MLK. And you see the blue line. [1:09:52, 1:10:12]: Based on deeds that have been able to be found, the blue line is what we have found that is owned by the city, which means the building extends beyond that. So the uh attorneys are trying to research and find additional documents. [1:10:11, 1:10:17]: documentation to show what the actual limits of uh ownership are in that area. [1:10:20, 1:10:26]: Okay. We'll we'll have further discussion about that. I'm pretty soon, pretty sure. Yeah, yeah. [1:10:28, 1:10:48]: And then the only other issue we have is you know the miscellaneous stormwaters uh projects. Just to let you know, the Hudson Bridge Drive, which was a major undertaking, uh they're wrapping that up uh this week. Uh the new pipes are in. We had to build temporary uh lanes for the for the [1:10:48, 1:11:06]: community that live behind in the county. But all the pipes have been repaired, everything's been replaced, and they're pouring the curving tomorrow to put everything back in place and we're good to go. They're moving to the Magnolias at Eagles Landing next, which will be next week. [1:11:06, 1:11:26]: And uh scheduling the work that was uh approved in that area. And uh the needletop work, uh the attorneys have gotten us access to all of that. Uh that will be the third project in line. And then uh the 103 turning point, uh, there are easements outstanding on that. I'm sure the attorneys can. [1:11:26, 1:11:27]: Can discuss with you. [1:11:30, 1:11:31]: Okay. [1:11:31, 1:11:51]: That's that's the needlepoint project where we've just uh just to let you know what happened there is there if you see the uh dashed lines there, those are existing stormwater, no the big lines. Those are existing stormwater system that you own. Uh and somehow or another, this particular [1:11:51, 1:12:11]: Area that shows all the grading. The property owner did some clearing there and buried everything so that nothing could drain into that area. And we're just cleaning it up and opening it back up so that you now have can drain that basin into the existing collection system. [1:12:11, 1:12:15]: That's what's happening at that particular site. [1:12:17, 1:12:17]: Okay. [1:12:19, 1:12:39]: And this is turning point. You've got the same issue where you've got stormwater being discharged behind a property that goes into the backyards of all these property owners. And uh we're having to modify the backyards to uh create a collection area that's gonna take that apart uh and and mitigate all the uh [1:12:39, 1:12:48]: water going to the back of these housing homes. And again, that one will move forward after the easements are obtained. [1:12:50, 1:12:51]: Okay. [1:12:53, 1:12:55]: And that is it. [1:12:55, 1:12:55]: Two. [1:12:56, 1:12:59]: Thank you. Any further questions, Council? Before they depart. [1:13:01, 1:13:03]: Okay, concealing. [1:13:03, 1:13:17]: All right. Thank you, gentlemen. Appreciate uh appreciate that. That's um uh things that we needed to vote on, we voted on. Other other than that, I guess is informational for us. I don't think there's any other votes that are needed this time. [1:13:18, 1:13:25]: Okay. All right. Thank you. Thank you. And uh you obviously you can stay as long as you like, but uh thank you for your time. Appreciate it. [1:13:26, 1:13:33]: Uh Carter Sloop project update, status and timeline, uh Chad Petson, uh if if I pronounce it properly. [1:13:35, 1:13:36]: Peddon, I guess it is. [1:13:37, 1:13:42]: Good afternoon, Mayor and Council. It's uh it's Pedon, actually. Excuse me, Pedon, excuse me. [1:13:43, 1:13:45]: Good to be here with y'all. Um [1:13:45, 1:13:48]: I'm gonna share my screen really quick, if you'll bear with me. [1:13:53, 1:14:00]: I believe y'all may have seen this document already. This is a summary of the current projects that we have. [1:14:00, 1:14:14]: Uh to start at the first one, it's the wastewater treatment plant and Glen Addy pump station improvements. We're actually so I'm sorry, Mr. Pedon, we don't see anything on screen. You see are you trying to show your screen? We don't see anything at this time. Yes, sir. [1:14:15, 1:14:18]: There we go. Looks like it's coming up now. Okay, there we go. [1:14:19, 1:14:20]: Okay. [1:14:20, 1:14:25]: You're seeing the project status report now, sir? Right, sir. Fantastic. [1:14:25, 1:14:26]: Oh my god. [1:14:27, 1:14:27]: Okay. [1:14:29, 1:14:30]: Can you make it any larger, sir? [1:14:32, 1:14:32]: So [1:14:33, 1:14:33]: Zoom in. [1:14:37, 1:14:38]: Great. Thank you. [1:14:38, 1:14:40]: Yes, ma'am. Thank you. [1:14:41, 1:14:57]: So the first project is the wastewater treatment plant in Glen Addy Pump Station Improvements. We're working on change order number three. Change order number three was replacement of the decanters in each of the SPR basins at the wastewater treatment plant. [1:14:57, 1:15:17]: We completed installation of the West Basin uh the week before Thanksgiving and we have the East Basin scheduled to be completed next week. Once that's finished, we'll address punch list items and have this project closed out the first of January. So this one's been a long time coming. [1:15:19, 1:15:19]: Yeah. [1:15:21, 1:15:41]: Next project is the Maze Crossing Lift Station Rehabilitation and Force Bane Replacement. This project has been bid. It's been awarded by council, and the contracts are actually with procurement. We're waiting on the contract agreement to be executed and then schedule a pre-construction meeting with the contract. [1:15:41, 1:15:43]: So we can start construction. [1:15:45, 1:15:46]: Okay. [1:15:48, 1:16:07]: The next project is the Burke Street sewer main rehabilitation. This project has also been bid out. It has been awarded by counsel and the uh the city's attorney is reviewing the contracts now and we're preparing to get those to the contractor for execution and then back to y'all. [1:16:07, 1:16:10]: And then we can get that project started as well. [1:16:13, 1:16:14]: All right. [1:16:14, 1:16:24]: The uh the next project that we have is a utility relocation. This is for uh State Route 138 and 42. This is right there in front of the Walmart. Yes, sir. [1:16:26, 1:16:32]: Uh uh I am a qu somebody has a question, I'm sorry. Yes, I do. Uh Mail Mayor Ford and Mr. Yeah, go ahead, sir. [1:16:33, 1:16:33]: Listen. [1:16:33, 1:16:39]: Could you elaborate somewhat on the uh Berk Street uh sewer? [1:16:39, 1:16:42]: uh rehab and and and m my thinking is [1:16:43, 1:16:43]: Um [1:16:44, 1:16:47]: You know, Burke Street is is that particular area that [1:16:48, 1:16:51]: uh we are highlighting, we're concentrating on. [1:16:51, 1:16:55]: Uh is that any information that we need to know that's going to [1:16:56, 1:17:00]: Um you know, infrastructure, you know, for sure. [1:17:00, 1:17:03]: uh in in preparedness of [1:17:03, 1:17:13]: future development in that particular area. Is there anything that you just want to share with us to give us some insight uh on on our future development in that particular area? [1:17:15, 1:17:35]: I I'm not sure about the future development in the area, but I I can't elaborate a bit on the project. So the existing sanitary sewer main in that area is in uh a degraded state. There's sections of cast iron pipe um with significant tuberculations that's minimized the capacity of the line through there. [1:17:35, 1:17:55]: As well as sections of clay pipe that have collapsed. And actually, I believe that operators have jetted out pretty large substantial pieces of the pipe. And so the condition of the pipe is in bad shape. What we have done is we've evaluated the capacity and the condition of those lines. [1:17:55, 1:18:15]: And come up with a plan to replace or rehabilitate those sections, depending on the issues that are present in those lines, whether or not we can line the pipes, whether we can uh pipe burst or have to open cut those sections. And the scope of work actually extends from the part right there at Brush Creek. [1:18:15, 1:18:27]: Creek all the way up to Highway 42. Right there. I believe it's um Bridge View Cafe is the scope of work, from there all the way into the park. [1:18:28, 1:18:33]: Yeah, I I think that's really important because any future development I think [1:18:33, 1:18:36]: Um, you know, people need to know that. [1:18:37, 1:18:57]: The infrastructure along that area has been upgraded. And I reason I ask for you to elaborate on that, I just think uh potential investors and developers need to know that that has been taken care of. And so that is great information to know. And I think for any future development, uh that is just good information. [1:18:57, 1:18:59]: information uh t to be known. [1:18:59, 1:19:03]: So I just want to thank you uh for um just elaborating on that. [1:19:04, 1:19:06]: Yes, sir. Absolutely. [1:19:06, 1:19:10]: I yield back, Mayor. Thank you. Thank you. No problem. Go ahead, sir. Please. [1:19:11, 1:19:31]: Okay. The uh the next project is the utility relocation. This was in front of Walmart. Um we have submitted second submission relocations to GDOT. At this point, they are in property acquisition and we are on hold until they come back with a let date. So [1:19:31, 1:19:34]: So at this point we're pencils down, waiting on G Doc. [1:19:36, 1:19:56]: The next project is water system modeling and hydraulic improvements. We completed and submitted a technical memorandum back in July of this year. We had a couple recommendations in that memorandum on improvements that the city could make to their distribution system. [1:19:56, 1:19:58]: System um [1:19:58, 1:20:08]: And the city has actually moved forward with some of those uh recommendations and we'll discuss those later in the 2021 water system improvements. [1:20:11, 1:20:12]: Okay, great. [1:20:14, 1:20:26]: The next project is the wastewater treatment plant pole barn. We're approximately 60% complete on design. We have uh we have geotech work scheduled. Um [1:20:27, 1:20:47]: I I believe it's going to be in the next couple weeks. Um, once we get the geotech, we'll be able to lay out and design the foundation. Um, and then once we have the foundation design, we can do the structural design, the connection of the columns to the to the slab or the footing. And uh once [1:20:47, 1:20:58]: Once that's done, we we anticipate having this out to bid sometime early in the first quarter with a completion date of uh around the first of the following year, 2023. [1:21:01, 1:21:02]: All right. [1:21:05, 1:21:15]: So the the next project is the 2021 water service line replacement. Um I don't know if you recall, this project was actually bid out. [1:21:15, 1:21:35]: Um, I believe it was in 2018, and uh there was not sufficient funding for that project, so it was shelved. Um the city came back and asked us to revisit this. We looked at that, they identified some additional areas with frequent leaks and uh issues that were causing operations. [1:21:35, 1:21:55]: Operators to go out after hours and have to replace service lines and interrupt service of the ratepayers. And so we consolidated that and have a design. We have construction plans and specifications ready to bid, but we actually included this project in the ARPA app. [1:21:55, 1:22:03]: application. And so we're on hold until we get um confirmation on funding from ARPA. [1:22:05, 1:22:10]: Okay, Mr. Wiggins, uh this is covered under our funding, correct? [1:22:10, 1:22:10]: No problem. [1:22:11, 1:22:11]: All right. [1:22:12, 1:22:14]: Yeah, a l a l a lot of these projects here. [1:22:15, 1:22:17]: uh wooden source [1:22:17, 1:22:19]: It's gonna be covered by Opera Phones. [1:22:20, 1:22:26]: Yeah, that's mayor. Yeah, I was thinking we had the funds already for this, I thought already. Some of those funds anyway. [1:22:27, 1:22:27]: Yeah, mayor. [1:22:28, 1:22:30]: Yeah, we have opera phones written. [1:22:30, 1:22:32]: Okay. To use. Yeah. [1:22:33, 1:22:37]: We have funds, proper funds to use for this right now. Is that correct? [1:22:38, 1:22:43]: Yes, um death is putting putting putting putting stuff in as they come in. [1:22:45, 1:22:57]: Mr. Mayor, this is Dash's this project is part of, you remember a couple of weeks ago, the last meeting we submitted that letter to go out to additional ARPA funding the governor had. Right. [1:22:57, 1:22:59]: The part of that governor's opera. [1:22:59, 1:23:00]: Okay. [1:23:01, 1:23:05]: All right. All right. Thank you. Thank you. That's what I needed then. Mirapal Tim, you ask something, sir? [1:23:07, 1:23:08]: You answered it. Thank you. [1:23:08, 1:23:10]: Okay, good deal. Here we go. [1:23:11, 1:23:12]: All right, thank you. Um [1:23:12, 1:23:16]: Mr Mr Pettin, if I've g got pronounced please continue. [1:23:17, 1:23:37]: Yes, sir. So the the next project is is um the 2021 water system improvements. I'm mentioned that briefly earlier. We had identified some some uh areas in the distribution system that we felt like could be improved to um to help the city's resilience in the system. Um [1:23:37, 1:23:54]: And so what the city did is they authorized us to move forward with design. We're at approximately 80, we're actually closer to 90% complete with the design right now. And similar to the water service line replacement, we're we're [1:23:54, 1:24:01]: fundamentally on hold for bidding until we get notification on the um the state governor's ARPA funding. [1:24:02, 1:24:03]: Okay, thank you. [1:24:05, 1:24:17]: The next project is the GIS program for water and sanitary sewer. We've actually been in the field collecting data the last few weeks. [1:24:17, 1:24:37]: They've been uh they've been actively working on the w the water and the wastewater. So they're not just isolated on one at this point. So um I do not have a tally of how many points they've collected to date, but I believe that they're about 20% complete right now. We we uh anticipate. [1:24:37, 1:24:40]: having all of this complete. [1:24:40, 1:24:44]: Early to mid March of of uh twenty twenty two. [1:24:45, 1:24:46]: Okay, thank you. [1:24:48, 1:25:08]: Uh the Waterway Memorial Park and Pine View lift stations, uh, these are reabutations of all three of those lift stations. Um, it also includes the replacement of the Waterway and the Pine View Force lanes. Um, we're approximately 40% complete as a whole. [1:25:08, 1:25:28]: We're a lot further along with Waterway and Memorial Park. If you will recall, the Pineview Lyft station was added later. And so we're we're not quite as far along with Pine View as we are with Walterway and Memorial Park, but we are as a whole probably around 40%. [1:25:28, 1:25:29]: Mm-hmm. [1:25:30, 1:25:50]: The uh the force main, the Walter Way Force main is is 30 percent complete in design. The Pine View um surveyors were on site the week before Thanksgiving. They started surveying that. And so as soon as we get that survey information, we will uh we'll be able to finish up the design on that and [1:25:49, 1:26:00]: continue to move forward. So we're uh we're looking at getting this one out to bid sometime in the first quarter of March and and possibly April. [1:26:02, 1:26:02]: All right, sir. Thank you. [1:26:04, 1:26:24]: Uh 2021 wastewater treatment plant improvement. So this was uh this was not a design project yet. We uh we did some preliminary engineering evaluating some options to uh improve operations at the wastewater treatment plant, particularly the influent pump station and the the [1:26:24, 1:26:44]: Blowers that uh provide oxygen to the digesters. And so we are approximately 80% complete. We actually visited the locust grove wastewater treatment plant yesterday with the operators and the sewer superintendent, and uh we looked at a uh installation. [1:26:44, 1:26:57]: application of some blowers that uh that we may possibly use for this project. So now that that um that visit's complete, we'll have a report ready and submitted to uh [1:26:57, 1:27:04]: to the city around the end of the year and then hope to move into design sometime in the first first of next year. [1:27:07, 1:27:07]: All right. [1:27:09, 1:27:15]: Uh North Bridge Station Sanitary Sewer Real Rehabilitation. This sewer um [1:27:15, 1:27:35]: Sewer line is similar to in condition to the Birch Street sewer line that that's uh getting ready to go into construction. And so um right now we're about 90% complete with the survey. I actually uh I looked at a survey file earlier today. We need a few more points. Um [1:27:35, 1:27:55]: The surveyor was on site today, and I think he may be out there a couple days though later this week. And so once we get that, we'll be able to hit that head on with design. Um, one one thing of note, this is a a pretty significant rehabilitation project, and so the construction time is extended on this, and it's it's reflecting. [1:27:55, 1:28:07]: reflective if if you look at the anticipated completion date over here of September 1st, 2023, there's a pretty significant construction period for that project. [1:28:09, 1:28:12]: Yeah. Okay. Thank you. [1:28:14, 1:28:34]: The uh the last project is the sewer manhole rehabilitation. Our our scope of work was to provide permitting through uh GDOT. And so that was completed. Our GUPS permit was uh authorized back in September 20th, 2021. And so at this point. [1:28:34, 1:28:38]: point we're waiting further instruction from the city as needed. [1:28:40, 1:28:45]: When you say further instruction, I'm I'm I'm maybe I'm dumbfounded here. What what what do you need what else you need from us in this aspect? [1:28:45, 1:28:52]: It i if we can provide assistance on any other aspect of the rehabilitation of those manholes. Um [1:28:52, 1:29:06]: we we would be ready to do that. So but at this point we've we've provided the permit and uh I believe the the city has hired the annual contractor to complete that work. So if they run into any issue that they have questions on, we we would be ready to assist. [1:29:07, 1:29:11]: Okay. Mr. Aaron, can you uh expound any further on this particular item? [1:29:12, 1:29:15]: This is the project that council approved. [1:29:15, 1:29:19]: I guess about two months ago for site engineering to go in a rehab. [1:29:19, 1:29:22]: The manholes that are like on North Henry Boulevard and [1:29:23, 1:29:23]: Okay. [1:29:23, 1:29:28]: So this is a project that's ongoing and if they run into anything. [1:29:28, 1:29:30]: out of the ordinary then. [1:29:30, 1:29:35]: Carter and Sluke will provide assistance on how to remedy that situation. Okay, good deal. Good deal. [1:29:37, 1:29:45]: Okay. Uh uh thank you, uh Mr. Pedden. Appreciate that. It's Council, any other question for yeah, then uh Councilman Thomas, go ahead sir. [1:29:45, 1:29:48]: Uh m Mr. Aaron, um [1:29:48, 1:29:51]: Not necessarily tonight. Um [1:29:52, 1:29:58]: I'd like to reach out to you or you can reach out to me, the the manhole that's on um North Henry. [1:29:58, 1:30:04]: Uh there are a number of them and if I remember correctly, there was some discussion about [1:30:04, 1:30:07]: Um responsibility of those. [1:30:08, 1:30:12]: Um, I'd like to reserve uh the opportunity to speak to you about [1:30:13, 1:30:13]: Um [1:30:14, 1:30:17]: All of the man holes on North Hinder know. [1:30:17, 1:30:19]: You indicated before. [1:30:19, 1:30:22]: That many of these manhole covers were [1:30:22, 1:30:26]: Uh outside of the uh North Henry. [1:30:26, 1:30:29]: uh parameters. So I'd like to get back with you. [1:30:29, 1:30:30]: Give me um [1:30:31, 1:30:36]: a listing of of of those and I I do recall some of those in some of the other subdivisions. [1:30:37, 1:30:40]: My concern though is with all of the ones that's on North Henry. [1:30:41, 1:30:45]: And I'm not sure if if all of those is going to be taken care of. [1:30:45, 1:30:48]: Uh my memory somewhat [1:30:48, 1:30:52]: Think that some of those manholds on North Henry. [1:30:52, 1:30:56]: uh was not included uh i in the scope um [1:30:56, 1:30:58]: Am I am I misinformed? [1:30:59, 1:31:11]: Well, there are some manholes that are not City of Stockbridge manhole. They might be ATT vault or some other utility, but the city is taking care of all the ones that are the city's responsibility that belong to the sewer system. [1:31:12, 1:31:17]: Okay, so with that being the answer, so what are the what are we doing? [1:31:18, 1:31:25]: to communicate with those other entities to make sure that um all of the manholes are are being taken care of. [1:31:28, 1:31:29]: Well [1:31:29, 1:31:33]: I don't know if we have contacted those entities directly, but we can. [1:31:34, 1:31:42]: Like I said, we can only repair our manholes. We can't do anything with theirs, but we'll definitely reach out to GDOT and those other entities. [1:31:42, 1:31:45]: And and Mr. Aaron, and the reason I say that. [1:31:45, 1:31:47]: When when when when pr when when [1:31:47, 1:31:50]: Vehicles and citizens are traveling not in [1:31:51, 1:31:54]: They don't get in c they don't get caught up in who they belong to. [1:31:55, 1:31:58]: They did they just know that they need to be repaired and so [1:31:59, 1:32:03]: We would think that that the council and the city would be proactive. [1:32:04, 1:32:20]: just to make sure it gets done. And so that would be my recommendation. And I'm only just one person, but it just needs to happen. Communication needs to go forward to make sure that all of the manholes covers on North Henry Boulevard are raised because [1:32:21, 1:32:28]: Citizens don't understand that they just know when their cars go up and down, it's you know, the wearing chair on their ties in their vehicle. [1:32:28, 1:32:30]: And it just it's just unpleasant. [1:32:30, 1:32:33]: And and it it it all goes back into [1:32:34, 1:32:40]: What we're trying to enhance the quality of life for citizens here in the city of Stockbridge. So [1:32:40, 1:32:50]: Uh the other council member can sort of weigh in on that, but I just think that somehow, somehow, communication needs to be done so we can make sure that all of the manhole covers are taken care of. [1:32:50, 1:32:51]: Oh no, Henry. [1:32:52, 1:32:52]: Mm-hmm. [1:32:53, 1:32:54]: You go right ahead, sir, please. [1:32:54, 1:32:59]: Yeah, here here to that man. I just did the obstacle course yesterday. [1:32:59, 1:33:02]: Trying to dodge the potholes on North Henry Boulevard. [1:33:02, 1:33:06]: And you're right, Councilman Thomas. The citizens just want to get it fixed. So please [1:33:07, 1:33:10]: uh reach out to ATT or any other entity to get [1:33:10, 1:33:14]: uh this problem fixed and let's get this on the fast track. [1:33:14, 1:33:16]: To get the problem solved that we [1:33:16, 1:33:24]: uh we're responsible for literally yesterday I'm on this obstacle course just trying to dodge and trying to figure out when the next one's coming up. [1:33:24, 1:33:28]: So I know I'm not the only one. I hear this from citizens all the time. So [1:33:28, 1:33:29]: Move forward, please. [1:33:30, 1:33:33]: And and and Mayor, if I may, we we just won't [1:33:33, 1:33:35]: We want the city to be proactive. [1:33:36, 1:33:37]: Um [1:33:37, 1:33:57]: You know, I hate to have to come back and and ask and and and suggest. Let's just be proactive. If if there's a problem, let's get it done. Uh if we have to reach out to other uh entities to get it done, let's be let's be pro-thinking, uh moving forward just to get it done. [1:33:57, 1:34:00]: This is something that should have just just happened anyway. [1:34:02, 1:34:02]: Thank you, Mayor. [1:34:03, 1:34:05]: Okay, no problem. Any other council comments thus far? [1:34:08, 1:34:09]: Is the patent anything else, sir? [1:34:10, 1:34:10]: You know? [1:34:11, 1:34:13]: No no, sir. Thank y'all for your time tonight. [1:34:13, 1:34:18]: Thank thank you, sir. Appreciate it. You can you're welcome to stay as long as you like. Appreciate it. Thank you very much. [1:34:19, 1:34:23]: Kekin Wood, updating stats timeline. Carl, please. [1:34:24, 1:34:29]: Evening mayor and council. I want to share my screen here. [1:34:30, 1:34:30]: Uh [1:34:34, 1:34:41]: Let me know when you see my screen. We we see projects uh the summary update. We see that now. Thank you very much. Okay. [1:34:42, 1:34:49]: Uh so and Heather Hubble is uh with us tonight also. We're gonna kind of tag team some of these things and she's got a [1:34:49, 1:34:53]: An in depth presentation on the Cultural Arts Center, which we'll get to in a minute. [1:34:54, 1:34:56]: I wanted to start with [1:34:56, 1:34:59]: uh the amphitheater and let you know where we're at on that. [1:35:00, 1:35:10]: Uh first of all, is the is this print large enough or do I need to expand it anymore? Just a little bit, sir. Probably be good. Yeah, that's that's probably good right there. [1:35:11, 1:35:11]: All right. [1:35:14, 1:35:34]: Okay, um so we all know the construction is complete. We've completed the punch list and the contractor has submitted all the closed out documents to the city. Uh really the last piece that remains as far as the contractor is concerned um in in completing [1:35:34, 1:35:35]: News. [1:35:35, 1:35:43]: uh obligations is to get a certificate of completion on the phase two parking. And I will talk about that in a minute as to why that's not yet obtained. [1:35:44, 1:35:47]: uh on the financial status um [1:35:48, 1:36:03]: We're we're still holding retainage on the contractor, five percent of the value of this contract, which is about a million dollars. Uh he's the contractor has asked for reduction under this and this will be under consideration this week in discussions with the uh city staff. [1:36:04, 1:36:05]: Um [1:36:05, 1:36:13]: Certainly I think uh some some retainage reduction would be in order. We just need to decide on uh exactly what would be appropriate. [1:36:14, 1:36:28]: Um and then there were several changes, uh scope changes near the end of the project uh that we've not yet finalized the cost with a contractor. We've been a little bit back and forth on a few things. [1:36:28, 1:36:35]: Uh we have a meeting set up uh with him Friday of this week to bring this to a conclusion. [1:36:35, 1:36:55]: uh and and get these uh uh change order amounts agreed to and uh and we'll be able to finalize the total contract amount. All of these are within the project uh budget. Uh it's within the the um uh funding that was approved, revised funding that was approved. [1:36:55, 1:36:59]: uh last February. So this is strictly kind of an internal [1:37:00, 1:37:05]: uh finalization of some of these minor changes that occurred. [1:37:06, 1:37:15]: Okay, Carl, scoop excuse me for a second, Carl. When you say contractor, are you referring to H J. Russell contractor? H J. Russell, yes. Okay. All right. Just want to make sure I understood. Thank you very much. No problem. [1:37:15, 1:37:25]: Uh so we have three additional considerations on the project that would be um that would not be able to fall within the [1:37:25, 1:37:27]: Approved project budget. [1:37:27, 1:37:33]: Uh so I want to kind of briefly touch on these and where we're at with those. Um we have been contemplating [1:37:34, 1:37:39]: uh adding car charging stations to the uh in the parking lot um [1:37:39, 1:37:41]: And we have I have [1:37:41, 1:37:45]: Obtained the costing on that and then given that to [1:37:45, 1:37:51]: Um, to Miss Johnson, I think she's going to bring that up in a future meeting for approval. [1:37:52, 1:37:52]: Um [1:37:53, 1:37:58]: The the the good thing about this car charging project, if you move forward with it. [1:37:58, 1:38:09]: Um the the actual infrastructure, which is the uh uh all the electrical, it's the the the transformer of the underground cables out to the car charging station. [1:38:10, 1:38:17]: Uh will be done at no charge to the city through Georgia Power. They have a uh program called the Make Ready Program where they [1:38:17, 1:38:34]: uh do all that infrastructure work free of charge. Um we do have to sign an agreement with them and I've given that to to Ms. Johnson to um uh to consider that uh and get that work going. So even if you don't elect to approve [1:38:34, 1:38:37]: The installing the car charging stations. [1:38:37, 1:38:45]: Certainly you would not want to miss the opportunity to get the infrastructure put in at no at no charge by George Power. So [1:38:45, 1:38:55]: Uh the car charging stations, there'll be uh what we call dual point stations. There are five stations. Each station will have two charging points, so you'll have a total of 10 charging points. [1:38:56, 1:39:00]: uh the cost of that was a little over sixty thousand dollars [1:39:00, 1:39:06]: Uh that should be coming up um to uh to city council on a future meeting for approval. [1:39:07, 1:39:09]: Say sixteen thousand or sixty. [1:39:09, 1:39:13]: Sixty sixty six zero. [1:39:16, 1:39:36]: Uh the second item was uh another owner requested change. Uh there was a lightning strike earlier this year after the project was substantially complete, and there was uh some uh minor amount of components that had to be uh repaired. Uh so uh the project team was at [1:39:36, 1:39:56]: Has to look at the budgeting to add a lightning protection system to uh to the buildings. Um that study is still in the works, uh so we'll bring that up later. Uh, but that's not a small amount of money. Um, the first brush at looking at this. Uh [1:39:56, 1:40:01]: Uh if we just did a very comprehensive lightning protection system would have been [1:40:01, 1:40:12]: in the two hundred thousand dollar range, but there are some lesser scope uh considerations that might be effective. Um, or you just may choose not to do that at all. [1:40:12, 1:40:17]: Uh certainly lightning protection on low rise buildings uh is not. [1:40:17, 1:40:20]: A normal expense that's usually reserved for [1:40:21, 1:40:23]: uh mid rise, high rise buildings, but [1:40:23, 1:40:31]: Uh we just want to do all the due diligence that the city has asked for to get some budget numbers put together to see if the city wants to pursue that. [1:40:31, 1:40:51]: Carl, uh stand by please. Carl, uh, what does that entail? What what do you mean? Lightning protection, what does that mean? What what does that do? Sure, good question. Um, so if you probably have seen on some of the the taller buildings around town, uh little spikes sticking up around the edge of the roof, uh, those are lightning uh leaders. [1:40:51, 1:40:52]: Mm-hmm. [1:40:52, 1:41:12]: Uh they're tied into some cables that that ground um any kind of lightning strike uh to keep it from moving through the building and through through systems in the building and protects the building. Um so this would involve you can imagine going back and putting all of these little antennas around all these buildings. [1:41:12, 1:41:14]: And the stage and the whole bit. [1:41:14, 1:41:31]: uh not very sightly um would be very expensive and it's um you know it's gonna be up to uh to the city and city council as to whether they want to pursue that. Um but the lightning damage I think it was a right around twelve thousand dollars of some [1:41:32, 1:41:45]: equipment that needed to be replaced. A lightning protection system, a full bore, over$200,000. It's just gonna be a kind of a risk assessment as to whether or not you would want to proceed with that. [1:41:46, 1:41:50]: Okay. Coun Councilwoman Barber, you had your hand up? [1:41:51, 1:41:55]: No, um Mr. Trevithon actually answered my question. Thank you. [1:41:55, 1:41:57]: Okay, uh Mayor Protam, go ahead, please. [1:41:58, 1:42:05]: Yeah, I I certainly would not want to do that. I think the issue that if you look at like the tall building, the skyscrapers in the city. [1:42:06, 1:42:09]: Those buildings have uh those systems installed. I think [1:42:09, 1:42:12]: For us, this is a outside building and [1:42:12, 1:42:22]: God forbid something did happen. Man,$200,000. I think we could cover it. So I I don't think that would be a wise investment for us to do that. [1:42:25, 1:42:26]: Okay, yeah. [1:42:27, 1:42:32]: Because I mean the damage really would come in the fact that there would be some type of fire or whatever. This building [1:42:32, 1:42:36]: It's not enclosed. We don't have a roof on it. That kind of thing. [1:42:39, 1:42:48]: Well, I'd like to ask Mr. Trevadon, um, do you know specifically what damage was caused earlier this year as a result of this lightning strike? This is the first I'm hearing about it. [1:42:49, 1:42:59]: Uh yeah, it was just uh some equipment. Um I think we're a little bit related to the fire alarm. I think there was some some damage to the fire alarm panel that was replaced. Um [1:42:59, 1:43:04]: I'm trying to recall now it was more equipment related. Um [1:43:04, 1:43:05]: It um [1:43:06, 1:43:12]: You know, it's it's one of those things you may or may not ever get another lightning strike. You just don't know when, you don't know. [1:43:13, 1:43:22]: uh you know what the damage is gonna be. I I certainly would not expect a a fire. That's not what I would be concerned about. I would be concerned more uh lightning. [1:43:22, 1:43:30]: uh entering the building and running through uh uh power cabling or low voltage cabling and getting the equipment. [1:43:32, 1:43:33]: Okay. [1:43:34, 1:43:39]: Well if if the council would choose to relieve us of [1:43:40, 1:43:46]: continuing to explore this, that would be helpful tonight so that we don't waste more more time and effort on on this item. [1:43:47, 1:43:50]: All right. Well, all right, then uh [1:43:50, 1:43:53]: Councilman Thomas, what are your thoughts then about that? [1:43:56, 1:44:01]: It it it does um create some concern, as you said, Carl. [1:44:02, 1:44:04]: You don't know when, but if it does. [1:44:05, 1:44:06]: uh how much damage [1:44:07, 1:44:14]: So um I'm sort of just in you know in between uh as far as uh a yeah or a nay. [1:44:14, 1:44:15]: Um [1:44:16, 1:44:20]: I I'm just I'm just not sure. I would hate for something to happen. [1:44:21, 1:44:22]: Um [1:44:22, 1:44:32]: total system goes down, especially if if you know, we talk about the amphitheater and this happens say a week before [1:44:33, 1:44:35]: uh a schedule event [1:44:36, 1:44:37]: And we cannot go forward. [1:44:38, 1:44:39]: Um [1:44:39, 1:44:42]: That's what sort of just running through my mind, but [1:44:43, 1:44:44]: I really don't have an answer, Mayor. [1:44:45, 1:44:48]: All right. Council uh Councilwoman Barber, go ahead, please. [1:44:48, 1:44:53]: So any damage would it not be covered our insurance? [1:44:54, 1:45:04]: I I do believe that damage um was submitted to to your insurance carrier. I'm kinda out of the loop once that happens, so I don't know if that's been paid or not. [1:45:05, 1:45:07]: Okay, Miss Um [1:45:07, 1:45:08]: This holiday. [1:45:09, 1:45:09]: Um [1:45:10, 1:45:14]: Do you recall submitting something like this to the insurance company? [1:45:15, 1:45:16]: I did not. [1:45:17, 1:45:23]: It did not come through the clerk's office to submit a claim. It may have been done through the city manager's office, but I did not. [1:45:23, 1:45:26]: Thank you. Mr. Trevithan, so [1:45:27, 1:45:32]: So any damage um that would be as a result to the lightning strike. [1:45:33, 1:45:36]: Um, we could use our insurance to cover. [1:45:36, 1:45:38]: Um repair costs. [1:45:38, 1:45:39]: Correct. [1:45:39, 1:45:50]: I I think that would be a question for your insurance carrier to make sure that you know you have that coverage that you that you're looking for. So I think it would be worth uh reviewing that with your insurance carrier. [1:45:50, 1:45:51]: Um [1:45:51, 1:45:54]: Uh I and then going back to some to [1:45:54, 1:45:57]: Tag on to Miss Holiday's response that did [1:45:57, 1:46:07]: uh occur uh when Mr. Knight was a city manager, I think he would have um initiated submitting that that claim to your insurance carrier. [1:46:08, 1:46:09]: Okay. Thank you. [1:46:09, 1:46:14]: Mr. Thomas, go ahead, sir. Uh Carl, how how long did it take to to repair the damage? [1:46:16, 1:46:17]: I think it [1:46:18, 1:46:18]: So [1:46:19, 1:46:21]: I I'd have to ask the um [1:46:21, 1:46:31]: Uh Kurt with the contractor with H J Russell as he did that. It did not take very long. I would say one to two weeks, all the components were back uh in operational. [1:46:32, 1:46:36]: And see and that and that's my concern when you say one or two weeks. [1:46:36, 1:46:37]: Um [1:46:38, 1:46:42]: It could happen a week out before a major event, but [1:46:42, 1:46:43]: Um [1:46:43, 1:46:46]: You know, uh that that's that's God's work, so [1:46:47, 1:46:54]: Um, I yield back, ma'am. I just want to know uh I'm I'm I would was that considered a minor [1:46:56, 1:46:57]: Fix [1:46:58, 1:46:59]: Or destruction? [1:46:59, 1:47:00]: Ha ha [1:47:00, 1:47:01]: Um [1:47:04, 1:47:15]: I I'm I'm not sure how to really categorize it. Um I think the things that took the longest to get replaced, there were some lights on exterior lights that were affected and they had to be reordered. [1:47:15, 1:47:23]: uh the components of some of the um uh uh of the equipment um they were repaired very rather quickly so [1:47:24, 1:47:30]: You know, it just depends on what a lightning strike does and what it affects as to whether or not it actually makes [1:47:31, 1:47:39]: would make the amphitheater unusable, or if it's just some cases where, you know, certain things aren't operating, but you know, the show goes on. So [1:47:39, 1:47:44]: And we don't know until it happens, right? We don't know until it happens if it ever happens. So [1:47:44, 1:47:45]: Yeah. [1:47:45, 1:47:50]: All right, thank you, sir. Well, Councilwoman Gantt, do you have any comments on this issue at all? [1:47:52, 1:47:53]: No, I don't. [1:47:54, 1:47:57]: Okay, so call asked for potential relief. [1:47:57, 1:48:07]: of this potentially. So I just want to know whether or not we're willing to give him the relief and not pursue this or whether or not do you still want him to pursue this and use manpower to do this and come back with some type of uh [1:48:08, 1:48:09]: presentation with the cost factor. [1:48:12, 1:48:13]: Just asking for your thoughts, folks. [1:48:14, 1:48:16]: Well, I would like to um [1:48:17, 1:48:25]: See if you, mayor, can test staff with uh contacting the insurance company to see if something like this would be covered. [1:48:25, 1:48:26]: Um and [1:48:27, 1:48:31]: Uh, if not, then I can make a better decision once I know. [1:48:32, 1:48:34]: What the insurance company says. [1:48:34, 1:48:35]: Um [1:48:35, 1:48:36]: Mayor. [1:48:36, 1:48:37]: Yes, ma'am. [1:48:37, 1:48:39]: I agree with Councilwoman Barber on that. [1:48:40, 1:48:41]: Um I think that [1:48:41, 1:48:43]: That would be smart and wise. I think we [1:48:44, 1:48:49]: probably need to reach out to Mr. Knight and and find out what did he do because we didn't receive notice of this. [1:48:50, 1:49:00]: Well, I have to admit I I this is new to me as well. Okay. Uh well, Miss Holiday, you you hear the request. I would imagine you'll be able to take care of this and get look get some idea whether or not this is covered in our insurance. [1:49:01, 1:49:02]: That's great. [1:49:02, 1:49:03]: Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate it. [1:49:04, 1:49:11]: On that and we'll reach out, uh we'll try to figure out something from uh what uh what uh Knight might have done with this in this aspect as well. [1:49:11, 1:49:12]: Um [1:49:12, 1:49:14]: Call, please continue. [1:49:14, 1:49:22]: All right, thank you. Uh the third consideration we'll talk about tonight, and this has to do with why the uh certificate of completion is not yet issued. [1:49:22, 1:49:25]: I think probably some of you may know that there is some [1:49:25, 1:49:36]: uh erosion issues in one of the detention ponds um that uh occurred earlier in the year from a from a very heavy unusual rain event. [1:49:36, 1:49:56]: Um as we have been uh as a team has been assessing that and looking at uh ways to resolve that that issue, uh we've come across some additional concerns regarding uh groundwater at that location and the cause that the groundwater is is [1:49:56, 1:49:58]: [6599.1, 6606.9]: Um so we've engaged the third party geotechnical firm, which is Atlas, who's been working on the project the whole time. [1:50:07, 1:50:12]: Uh, to do some groundwater uh monitoring and issue a report. [1:50:12, 1:50:16]: Expecting that report to come either this week or early next week. [1:50:16, 1:50:19]: And then the designers can finalize [1:50:20, 1:50:31]: uh the enhancements that are gonna need to be done to detention fund to the detention fund to handle these issues. Um it certainly is going to require [1:50:31, 1:50:36]: uh modifications to the spillway between the upper pond and the middle pond. [1:50:37, 1:50:42]: Uh and it's certainly going to require some bank stabilization around the middle pond. [1:50:43, 1:50:51]: Um we had to do something similar to that during the course of the project to the lower pond that's closer to Lee Street because of groundwater issues. [1:50:52, 1:50:57]: And we had to do some stabilization there. So it looks like we're headed towards that same solution. [1:50:58, 1:51:00]: uh for this pond so [1:51:00, 1:51:02]: Uh, we're a couple of weeks away from [1:51:03, 1:51:03]: Um [1:51:04, 1:51:12]: getting that information put together and getting the uh the designers an opportunity to finalize their recommendations for [1:51:13, 1:51:16]: uh enhancements or alterations to that pawn. [1:51:16, 1:51:36]: Uh the issue will be is that there um uh that there's not going to be enough money in the balance of the project, the contingency that we're working under uh to fund this based on some of the preliminary numbers that that I've um have have received. So we'll need to be uh in [1:51:36, 1:51:46]: In addition to looking at the resolution, looking at the funding source, but I do want to move this as quickly as we can because we we need to get these enhancements done. [1:51:47, 1:51:53]: uh so that we don't continue to have problems with this pond and and uh create additional costs later on. [1:51:54, 1:52:07]: Well Carl, I would Carl, I would think that wouldn't this be something that would be on the contractor and not on the city if this is something that wasn't done properly in the first place? Why would we have to pay for something for a mistake if it's wasn't done properly initially? [1:52:07, 1:52:11]: Certainly a good question. That you know, that's the first thing that we were looking at when this happened. [1:52:12, 1:52:19]: Um, you know, the contractor built the spillway according to designer's uh design. [1:52:19, 1:52:27]: Um I've been back through the uh the test reports from Atlas to make sure that all of the compaction was properly done. [1:52:28, 1:52:35]: Uh and so yet as to yet I've not found any reason to believe that that the contractor didn't build it correctly. [1:52:35, 1:52:41]: Uh but I don't I'm not really ready yet to speculate on on any uh end game with this. I think [1:52:41, 1:52:42]: We really need to [1:52:43, 1:52:55]: We we do know we need to do something at in addition to what was designed there to handle these issues. Certainly the groundwater issue if it is not um a contractor fault. That's an an [1:52:55, 1:53:12]: Uh you know that that is a condition of the ground that um uh that was not anticipated. So what I would say tonight um without getting into having to speculate on how this ends up is let's I want to finish up with the groundwater report. I want the [1:53:12, 1:53:20]: Designers to uh finalize uh what they recommend to be done to the fund in addition to what was designed before. [1:53:20, 1:53:25]: Um and get the cost of that and and move forward with that. [1:53:25, 1:53:34]: Um and um and try to bring at least get get the remediation done so that we don't have uh continued erosion issues there. [1:53:35, 1:53:43]: But I certainly don't right now I do not believe that the contractor failed to do anything that wasn't that he wasn't asked to do according to the design. [1:53:45, 1:53:46]: All right, so thank you. [1:53:46, 1:53:48]: Any questions, counsel for Carl? [1:53:49, 1:53:50]: Yes, Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [1:53:50, 1:53:56]: Mr. Trevathan, so Adalyst, are they a subcontractor of H J Russell? [1:53:57, 1:54:10]: No, Atlas, uh they were formerly called Piedmont. Uh they are the third party. Uh they did the geotechnical and the materials testing on the project. They're hired directly by the city as a third party um [1:54:11, 1:54:13]: Materials uh inspector. [1:54:13, 1:54:18]: Uh so they work separately from the contractor and they work separately from [1:54:18, 1:54:20]: The designers that work direct for the city. [1:54:21, 1:54:23]: uh to to do these um [1:54:24, 1:54:26]: to do the scope that they're asked to do on the project. [1:54:26, 1:54:29]: Do you know if we have an existing contract with them? [1:54:29, 1:54:30]: Yes, you did. [1:54:30, 1:54:34]: Yes, there was a contract on the project for for them to perform. [1:54:34, 1:54:36]: Uh all the testing on the project. [1:54:37, 1:54:40]: It's still active, is what I mean. It is still active. [1:54:40, 1:54:40]: Okay. [1:54:41, 1:54:41]: Um [1:54:41, 1:54:42]: And that's separate. [1:54:43, 1:54:50]: That's a separate contract from this 5% retention that you're holding from HJ Russell, correct? [1:54:51, 1:54:55]: Um not really sure what you're asking. Um [1:54:55, 1:55:01]: Right now, you know, the project through the course of the project retention is held on contractor. [1:55:01, 1:55:07]: Um until the project is complete. Um, the project's not complete because of this. [1:55:08, 1:55:08]: Um [1:55:09, 1:55:16]: I think an a a a million dollar retention on it that's a little little large based on what we think the cost will be to uh [1:55:17, 1:55:19]: та то адрес деса. [1:55:19, 1:55:24]: I think we we can certainly entertain their request for retained reduction. [1:55:24, 1:55:25]: Um [1:55:26, 1:55:26]: But [1:55:28, 1:55:34]: So I'm not sure I'm asking your question, but uh I'm trying to really explain what the retaining is is really for. [1:55:35, 1:55:41]: Well, I want to make sure that the city's assets when it was turned over to us that it's fully operational. [1:55:42, 1:55:44]: And we don't have issues like this. [1:55:45, 1:55:45]: Correct. [1:55:45, 1:55:46]: For contractors. [1:55:47, 1:55:49]: And everyone else to walk away winning. [1:55:50, 1:55:52]: Good attention. [1:55:52, 1:55:58]: their consent contingency funds and they're just walking away. And now the city is having to [1:55:58, 1:55:59]: bear the cost of [1:56:00, 1:56:02]: fixing and resolving these issues. So [1:56:03, 1:56:05]: That's all I want to make sure that [1:56:05, 1:56:11]: those contractors who are directly responsible in working with us to resolve it if we have an active contract. [1:56:11, 1:56:12]: That [1:56:12, 1:56:16]: Right now is not the time for us to discuss reducing. [1:56:16, 1:56:22]: um any retainage feeds, but I understand Atlas is separate from HJ Russell. [1:56:23, 1:56:23]: Correct. [1:56:23, 1:56:24]: Okay. [1:56:25, 1:56:27]: Ms. Mirror. Yeah, go right here, sir, please. [1:56:27, 1:56:30]: Uh Mr. Trevathan, I I want to understand [1:56:31, 1:56:37]: Whether or not uh this was built to the standard of a hundred year flood or what standard was it built to? [1:56:38, 1:56:41]: 'Cause obviously I don't remember any type of [1:56:41, 1:56:46]: delus or or uh incredible flooding in this area that would have caused [1:56:46, 1:56:50]: uh this type of issue to uh [1:56:50, 1:56:58]: become forward. I mean, when was this hundred year flood of rain that we were supposed to have? Isn't it supposed to be built to that standard? [1:56:58, 1:57:18]: And uh I appreciate that question. Uh I have asked the designers to address their initial design and they uh that will be part of what uh what I will be putting together to send to uh uh to the city staff as far as the final resolution recommendations to this. So um we will I [1:57:18, 1:57:24]: Your question will be answered when when we finalize that report and get it sent to us to the city staff. [1:57:25, 1:57:26]: But it's a very fair question. [1:57:27, 1:57:30]: Okay, and also I've noticed that uh [1:57:30, 1:57:33]: The water levels are pretty low uh in those two. [1:57:34, 1:57:34]: Uh yeah. [1:57:35, 1:57:39]: Into those first two points, I know one of them's supposed to be a spillover. For example [1:57:39, 1:57:41]: I don't know if you're familiar with the [1:57:41, 1:57:45]: Big Springs uh project in McDon in McDonough. [1:57:45, 1:57:49]: It looks full all the time, even though it is a detention or retention fund. [1:57:50, 1:58:02]: It looks full all the time. The body of water looks more like a pond than it does a detention pond because it's not as sight it's not as beautiful as I thought it would have been because the water level is always [1:58:03, 1:58:05]: Extremely low instead of being [1:58:05, 1:58:08]: Uh looking like a pond or a lake. [1:58:08, 1:58:25]: Right. Um, and you're correct. Um the con uh H J Russell has lowered and and is pumping water out of the upper pond so that we don't continue to have erosion on that spillway and make that situation worse until we get the final resolution. So [1:58:25, 1:58:31]: Those pods are intentionally drawn down right now until we can get this situation resolved. [1:58:31, 1:58:36]: Well, I mean, even before they started to draw down, I'm just saying they never really looked [1:58:36, 1:58:55]: uh you know, like a body of water that would be very appealing. It just they always look kind of low. I don't know was there a leak something that was going on previous to that, cause I I just I certainly would like to see as we're doing this project for it to look more wholesome and to look full, the pond to look full with the fountain in there. [1:58:55, 1:58:57]: uh on an ongoing basis when the project is finished. [1:58:59, 1:59:09]: Um we once we get the water levels back up to where they're supposed to be, I think we can evaluate that. I mean, I did see the water levels prior to us drawing them down. [1:59:09, 1:59:14]: Um we're still in construction so we're still doing a lot of landscaping work. [1:59:14, 1:59:20]: the water wasn't really clear because things weren't finished. [1:59:20, 1:59:32]: But I think if if there is a concern about that, um, you know, I can take that back to the civil engineer record and see if he can maybe make a a presentation to you on that. Um [1:59:32, 1:59:35]: at a future meeting to to kind of explain what their [1:59:36, 1:59:37]: uh design intent. [1:59:38, 1:59:39]: should result. [1:59:41, 1:59:42]: Okay, thank you. [1:59:43, 1:59:46]: Any other comments uh for Carl Council? [1:59:47, 1:59:48]: Concerns that [1:59:48, 1:59:50]: Uh, Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. [1:59:50, 1:59:54]: Uh uh Carl, I wanted to go back to the um [1:59:55, 2:00:08]: charging stations and I know you mentioned you quoted a sixty uh sixty thousand dollars. Did you indicate how many stations would that be um in this area? How many how many stations would that be? [2:00:08, 2:00:09]: Yes, um [2:00:09, 2:00:27]: I did. Uh there's there'll be five, what we call dual point stations. There's five of those. Each station has two charging points. So five times two is ten. There'll be ten actual charging points. Um and certainly you can choose to put all of those in or [2:00:28, 2:00:32]: Maybe you choose to put some of those in at this time. So it'll be it'll really be a [2:00:33, 2:00:37]: A question that will come up once this bit gets brought up to you for approval. [2:00:38, 2:00:41]: And and that is at a cost of uh sixty thousand. [2:00:41, 2:00:46]: Correct. If you do all all five of the stations, that will result in ten charging points. [2:00:49, 2:00:58]: And these, by the way, these car charging stations are um they're not what you would get in your house that takes you all night to charge. These charge a car. [2:00:58, 2:01:04]: uh in in a matter of just a couple of hours. So they are a a higher level [2:01:04, 2:01:07]: uh charging station than what you would find at at your house. [2:01:08, 2:01:10]: Thank you, sir. [2:01:11, 2:01:11]: Yeah, we [2:01:12, 2:01:15]: Anything else? You have for time, you have something else now? [2:01:15, 2:01:23]: Yeah, r very quickly. In the end, uh I I think that's the point is to draw more folk downtown. But the very best part of this is [2:01:24, 2:01:29]: The infrastructure bill contains money for electric car charging and electric stations. [2:01:29, 2:01:31]: So let's move in that direction. [2:01:31, 2:01:36]: uh in those funds being available in the infrastructure bill that's coming. [2:01:37, 2:01:38]: Mm-hmm. [2:01:38, 2:01:39]: Okay. That's right. [2:01:39, 2:01:40]: Casual Bottom. [2:01:41, 2:01:41]: You have a comment? [2:01:42, 2:01:45]: Oh no, I was echoing with Mayor Pro Tian Alexander. Okay. [2:01:46, 2:01:49]: If there's no other question, Mr. Trevitad. [2:01:50, 2:01:54]: How long does it take for them to install Denis charging stations? [2:01:55, 2:01:56]: Um [2:01:57, 2:02:03]: I would have to go back and look at that quote, but I think once you approve it, the actual stations um [2:02:06, 2:02:26]: I think it was six to eight weeks. That was I I tend to recall that was the the time frame I was discussing with with Mr. Knighton before. Um but that is of course that is dependent upon Georgia power getting the infrastructure in, which is a separate agreement that needs to be signed by the city to allow them to do it, even though it's at zero [2:02:26, 2:02:31]: zero cost, there is an agreement that has been sent that needs to be executed before [2:02:32, 2:02:40]: Um Georgia Power will move on their part. They've done the design work, but they have to uh they won't order the transformer until that agreement is signed. [2:02:41, 2:02:45]: Okay. Um do we know when that agreement is gonna be presented to the council? [2:02:46, 2:02:48]: Um I don't if [2:02:49, 2:02:55]: I I would have to defer that to Miss Johnson if if she's ready to bring that up or not. Um [2:02:55, 2:03:02]: I and and truly because it's a zero dollar thing, I I don't I'm not even sure if council needs to [2:03:03, 2:03:05]: Right has to vote on it, but you certainly could. [2:03:06, 2:03:08]: It could be something that maybe that could be done internally. [2:03:09, 2:03:11]: Right. I'll leave that to Mayor Ford. [2:03:11, 2:03:18]: Thank you very much. Appreciate it. On that note, Carl, thank you for the presentation. Uh unless there's something else to mention, sir, we'll move on. [2:03:18, 2:03:22]: All right, uh so I'm gonna take you to the cultural arts center. Okay, uh [2:03:23, 2:03:25]: I think I would like for Heather [2:03:26, 2:03:37]: To do. She's got a little more deeper dive presentation to do tonight. And then we'll come back to this uh this project sheet and kind of go through the specifics on it. So Heather, if you are ready. [2:03:38, 2:03:40]: Uh I will stop sharing and you can take over. [2:03:41, 2:03:43]: Sure thing, thank you. [2:03:55, 2:03:57]: Uh hopefully you can see a [2:03:58, 2:04:01]: Um perspective of the uh art center. [2:04:01, 2:04:02]: On your screen. [2:04:02, 2:04:03]: We can. [2:04:05, 2:04:09]: Uh thank you for this time your time this evening. I am going to um [2:04:09, 2:04:17]: uh give you an overview of kind of where we where we're at with the art center um and then of course questions uh [2:04:17, 2:04:29]: as appropriate. Adam Williamson is on the phone with me uh tonight and he is going to be talking, he is a principal with TSW and he's going to be talking about the site component when we get to it. [2:04:30, 2:04:38]: But project status update. So we completed the schematic design set on November the 10th of this year. [2:04:39, 2:04:41]: Um that is in Miss Johnson's hand. [2:04:41, 2:04:43]: Uh as well as um [2:04:44, 2:04:46]: Stay shift Aaron's hands as well. [2:04:46, 2:04:47]: Um [2:04:48, 2:05:00]: That set, so we had concept previously, so now we have expanded the design set. So this is a a look at uh really starting to make the concept more real. [2:05:00, 2:05:08]: Um the schematic design set has ninety-seven pages in it, so it is much more extensive than what you've seen previously. [2:05:08, 2:05:12]: The goal of the set is to really advance the design. [2:05:13, 2:05:18]: as well as to facilitate detailed construction cost estimating. So [2:05:18, 2:05:32]: Up until before this set, we didn't have any engineers involved to actually start to design the systems and to get really accurate costing, we needed that interaction. So that's occurred with this set. [2:05:33, 2:05:37]: Um tonight we're going to talk about both uh [2:05:37, 2:05:38]: What the site? [2:05:38, 2:05:48]: has been updated to some of the building updates that have been done. And then we are going to give you a separate presentation on the interiors. [2:05:49, 2:05:49]: Um [2:05:50, 2:05:51]: In the near future. [2:05:53, 2:06:04]: Uh these are uh the entities that were involved with the schematic design set. So uh you know we had civil engineers, um MEP engineers. [2:06:05, 2:06:20]: structural engineers, interior designer, theater designer, the acoustician, all of those uh folks involved to make sure that we could get some really good feedback on um you know the vision for the amphet uh the vision for the art center. [2:06:23, 2:06:28]: Um this is the concept uh for the Art Center that was done previous to now. [2:06:29, 2:06:35]: um it was you know a quick uh look at you know what what was for the site [2:06:36, 2:06:38]: Uh but it wasn't completely flush out. [2:06:39, 2:06:51]: So there were things that we need to solve, and here are the main items that we need to solve in this schematic design set. So we need to make sure to adapt that concept, the land survey. [2:06:51, 2:06:59]: Prior, uh, we did not have that information, now we do. So we need to make all of that align and work uh in a realistic way. [2:07:00, 2:07:03]: Um we also had to focus on um [2:07:04, 2:07:19]: a desell lane. With the traffic that's going to be coming into the art center and the traffic on North Henry, we really needed to get this incorporated to the site. And so that started to affect the previous concept. [2:07:19, 2:07:21]: Um we also [2:07:21, 2:07:27]: really triggered that we needed to improve the drop-off sequence, the previous drop-off sequence. [2:07:27, 2:07:28]: And I'm gonna flip back real quick. [2:07:29, 2:07:33]: You can see you came off North Henry and then to drop off you had to make this [2:07:33, 2:07:41]: large circular motion around, which really isn't practical for the functionality of the art center. So we wanted to solve that. [2:07:43, 2:07:53]: Uh and then also uh we wanted to improve uh the green space that we were providing for this site. I'm gonna flip back one more time to the concept, the previous concept. [2:07:53, 2:08:01]: So the central green space that you can see was really surrounded by this loop. And so anyone who wanted to get to the green space. [2:08:01, 2:08:04]: Um, you know, had to cross traffic. [2:08:04, 2:08:06]: Uh and you know they're [2:08:07, 2:08:11]: Uh that makes a dangerous situation potentially for kids playing. [2:08:11, 2:08:14]: So we wanted to try to [2:08:14, 2:08:14]: Right. [2:08:15, 2:08:16]: Yeah. [2:08:16, 2:08:19]: work out that design solution. [2:08:23, 2:08:34]: So this is the updated site concept, and I'm gonna turn it over to Adam Williamson to kind of talk through how the site plan uh solves those different items. [2:08:35, 2:08:39]: Thanks, Heather. Good evening, Mayor and Council. Pleasure to be here. [2:08:39, 2:08:43]: So I'm gonna go high level on this. We'll start with the main parking lot. [2:08:44, 2:08:45]: adjacent to the stock bridge. [2:08:46, 2:08:46]: Art Center. [2:08:47, 2:08:50]: You know, we're trying to maximize the parking. [2:08:50, 2:08:52]: Um to the right there. [2:08:52, 2:08:58]: And then to the left you'll see on the other side of the art center is the staff parking lot. [2:08:58, 2:08:59]: The back of house. [2:09:00, 2:09:01]: Um loading. [2:09:02, 2:09:05]: And in the front piece you'll see the revised [2:09:05, 2:09:10]: design. We're gonna zoom into these and get into a little bit more detail next on the next slide. So this plan [2:09:11, 2:09:11]: It's roughly [2:09:12, 2:09:16]: About the same as we had previously, about two hundred and forty seven parking spaces. We know it's important. [2:09:16, 2:09:19]: to get as many sparking spaces as as we can [2:09:19, 2:09:22]: And so if we'll zoom in, Heather, next slide, please. [2:09:23, 2:09:26]: So we're zooming into the green space and and the front. [2:09:27, 2:09:28]: Of the building. [2:09:28, 2:09:29]: And so [2:09:29, 2:09:33]: You know, one of the other reasons we had to shift the driveway was that D sell link. [2:09:33, 2:09:39]: Um from um G Dot. So we pushed the the entry drive down where we could access the site. [2:09:40, 2:09:46]: Um again I do agree with Heather trying to minimize the conflicts with pedestrians if you have children out there. [2:09:46, 2:09:47]: This is a safer plant. [2:09:48, 2:09:50]: Um so you come into the side. [2:09:50, 2:09:53]: One of the big components was we wanted to create the axes. [2:09:53, 2:09:58]: to the front door so this this major thoroughfare [2:09:58, 2:09:59]: Which has water features. [2:10:00, 2:10:02]: Such as Runnels and um [2:10:03, 2:10:08]: some different elements in this area to draw your eye to the door and to be that central axis. [2:10:09, 2:10:15]: We also have um parking there. We also have some parallel parking adjacent to the park. [2:10:15, 2:10:17]: Which could accommodate food trucks. [2:10:17, 2:10:20]: For having a vent to activate the space. [2:10:21, 2:10:22]: We have um [2:10:22, 2:10:25]: One of the cool features we have is in the front there. [2:10:25, 2:10:31]: And you will we'll show you an example of that where we have the big letters for that would say stockbridge in the front. [2:10:32, 2:10:34]: And you know, that could be a an Instagram moment. [2:10:35, 2:10:43]: Um for for for some folks. Um we have some a lot of seating in this area, table locations, a tree bosque. [2:10:43, 2:10:45]: And really a hard walk. [2:10:45, 2:10:46]: To [2:10:46, 2:10:48]: To really bring [2:10:48, 2:10:50]: The idea the art into this space. [2:10:51, 2:10:57]: Um and the turnaround that we we've been working on, we want to make that more efficient, more safe. [2:10:57, 2:10:58]: So it's a one way street. [2:10:59, 2:11:01]: As you come in for the drop off. [2:11:02, 2:11:04]: And you could drop off right in front of the [2:11:04, 2:11:08]: Um front door, and then you could circle back around. [2:11:08, 2:11:11]: And then you could go back and park in in the large parking lot. [2:11:12, 2:11:16]: And we also see some opportunities in that in that central green space. [2:11:16, 2:11:18]: Of the turnaround to have art. [2:11:18, 2:11:19]: And um a water feature. [2:11:20, 2:11:22]: So if we go to the next slide. [2:11:24, 2:11:27]: So this shows you uh a little zoomed in. [2:11:27, 2:11:29]: Of the parking lot. [2:11:29, 2:11:40]: Again, we're trying to maximize that. We're trying to get pedestrian movements. You see some of the sidewalks at the top, the middle, and at the bottom that will feed you to the art center in a safe manner. [2:11:41, 2:11:43]: We also have another drop off. [2:11:44, 2:11:44]: Um [2:11:44, 2:11:45]: To the side there. [2:11:46, 2:11:48]: And we do have a large pedestrian plaza. [2:11:49, 2:11:50]: That we where people can [2:11:50, 2:11:53]: Come and meet and then ha have seating. [2:11:53, 2:11:56]: And more potential for art exhibits there. [2:11:58, 2:11:59]: Think we have one more slide. [2:12:02, 2:12:08]: And this is some of the examples, and we're we're still getting cost and and thinking about how exactly this works, but [2:12:09, 2:12:12]: The top left is the in the roundabout. We could have a [2:12:12, 2:12:14]: Ma water feature. [2:12:15, 2:12:24]: And the next it shows you a inverse infinity edge central channel where the water drains to the central and drops into a channel. [2:12:25, 2:12:29]: And then the next one shows you a reflecting pool with bubble fountains. [2:12:30, 2:12:31]: And the [2:12:31, 2:12:35]: This spells, I believe, Toledo, but you get you know, we we we would be spelling [2:12:35, 2:12:38]: Stockbridge, give you an example of that at the bottom left. [2:12:39, 2:12:41]: And then some of our ideas the next two. [2:12:42, 2:12:43]: Number is just some seeding. [2:12:43, 2:12:47]: And some angled seatings, just some examples of how we'd like to integrate the seating. [2:12:47, 2:12:48]: into the design. [2:12:52, 2:12:55]: Believe there's one more slide, Heather. Is that it? [2:12:57, 2:12:59]: I believe that is it. Um [2:13:00, 2:13:03]: Should we field questions for the site before we move to the building? [2:13:04, 2:13:07]: Sure, if there's any questions or comments, love to hear from you. [2:13:08, 2:13:28]: Yeah, I I I have to admit I'm I'm a little confused about some of the entryway. Uh the if you go back to the slide for the we showed the the central part of the green space in the entryway, and you talk about the drop-off area. Uh so so otherwise uh on North Henry uh North Henry Boulevard, there's only one one. [2:13:28, 2:13:32]: One way in, no uh not another sec uh another way out, or what? Now I'm kinda confused here. [2:13:33, 2:13:36]: Oh sorry, I didn't say say that very clearly. No, that's a two way [2:13:37, 2:13:43]: I'll ask it too, I got there. Okay. Coming in. It's just the one way like right in front where the drop off is. [2:13:43, 2:13:44]: Okay. [2:13:45, 2:13:46]: Everything else is two way. [2:13:46, 2:13:48]: Okay. Got it now. All right. Good question. [2:13:49, 2:13:50]: All right, I'm I'm good. [2:13:50, 2:13:51]: Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [2:13:52, 2:13:59]: You mentioned about having the stock bridge sign at the entrance. [2:13:59, 2:14:04]: With the pedestrian bridge a block away, I thought that I've seen um [2:14:05, 2:14:06]: designs uh [2:14:07, 2:14:09]: a potential pedestrian bridge with the same [2:14:10, 2:14:10]: Like [2:14:11, 2:14:12]: Lettering. [2:14:13, 2:14:14]: Would that be overkill? [2:14:17, 2:14:18]: I'm I'm not aware of that. Heather, were you? [2:14:19, 2:14:20]: Are you aware of that? [2:14:21, 2:14:22]: I'm not aware of it either. [2:14:22, 2:14:23]: Um [2:14:24, 2:14:30]: I think it would be overkill, so I would only do it in one location. Um the [2:14:31, 2:14:37]: thought of incorporating it here is that it becomes art when you become part of that sign. [2:14:37, 2:14:38]: Um [2:14:38, 2:14:41]: So that was the reason for incorporating it here. [2:14:41, 2:14:42]: Oh. [2:14:42, 2:14:47]: But you know, glad to remove that element if that is gonna be done in another location. [2:14:48, 2:14:51]: Well maybe um mayor Alexander. [2:14:52, 2:14:57]: The image that you've been showing of the pedestrian bridge that has stock bridge on it. [2:14:58, 2:14:59]: Was that a [2:15:00, 2:15:01]: Designed by [2:15:02, 2:15:12]: It it was in the RSVP plan uh for downtown over uh the track. So yes, that was uh that was incorporated in the downtown RSVP plan. [2:15:15, 2:15:19]: So I just don't need to have it in both places. Maybe [2:15:20, 2:15:22]: uh consider something else. [2:15:22, 2:15:23]: Right. [2:15:24, 2:15:30]: Okay. Yeah, we'll you know there's a lot of opportunities playing off the art, so that's good feedback. We'll we'll remove that from the plant. [2:15:32, 2:15:35]: Ms. Bar uh Ms uh Braggs, go ahead, please. [2:15:37, 2:15:39]: I was just going to mention that [2:15:39, 2:15:45]: Um these types of letters were proposed for um three potential locations. [2:15:46, 2:15:48]: One as was mentioned, um [2:15:49, 2:15:52]: by councilwoman barber on the pedestrian bridge. [2:15:53, 2:15:57]: And um counts mayor pro tem Alexander, but also [2:15:58, 2:16:00]: In the space that we [2:16:00, 2:16:02]: Main street calls. [2:16:02, 2:16:04]: The pecan grove. [2:16:04, 2:16:07]: That was another potential location. [2:16:07, 2:16:12]: But we're not necessarily adverse to the letters being placed at the cultural arts center. [2:16:13, 2:16:18]: But Main Street has proposed three locations for those letters. [2:16:19, 2:16:20]: Thank you. [2:16:22, 2:16:23]: You know, questions, council? [2:16:26, 2:16:28]: Okay, I I guess Heather, you can continue on. [2:16:29, 2:16:29]: Okay. [2:16:34, 2:16:40]: Um so these are the floor plans uh back in March uh twenty twenty-one. [2:16:40, 2:16:48]: Again, these were done prior to uh engineers coming in and influencing. Yes, I see a hand raised. [2:16:49, 2:16:49]: Okay. [2:16:50, 2:16:52]: Right. Okay, go ahead. I I don't see it. Who is that? [2:16:52, 2:16:56]: I apologize, Mayor Ford. This is Councilman Thomas. [2:16:56, 2:16:59]: Mrs. Hubble, how are you this afternoon or this evening? [2:17:00, 2:17:03]: Good. I hope you're doing well as well. Doing good as well. [2:17:03, 2:17:06]: I I apologize. I I wanted to [2:17:06, 2:17:07]: Have you two? [2:17:08, 2:17:10]: Highlight um [2:17:10, 2:17:14]: The entryway uh from Burke Street [2:17:15, 2:17:19]: I I have not I don't recall a lot of conversation about [2:17:19, 2:17:22]: how the entryway is going to look. [2:17:22, 2:17:25]: Uh coming in off of uh Berk Street. [2:17:26, 2:17:27]: And the parking [2:17:27, 2:17:29]: Uh that's on that end. [2:17:31, 2:17:32]: Can you share just [2:17:32, 2:17:34]: Some of that concept [2:17:37, 2:17:40]: Sure. Adam, would you like to cover that? [2:17:41, 2:17:49]: Sure. We I think what we're talking about doing on Burke Street is adding parallel parking on on the left side of Burke Street. [2:17:49, 2:17:51]: But also those uh [2:17:52, 2:17:55]: Those gray sidewalks that you see in the parking lot. [2:17:56, 2:18:00]: There's three. There's one at the top and and then there's one in the middle and there's one at the bottom. [2:18:01, 2:18:01]: And so [2:18:02, 2:18:08]: You would get out of your car and make your way to those sidewalks and those would be the entry portals into the plaza area. [2:18:08, 2:18:11]: And so we're that's what we're using to [2:18:11, 2:18:16]: Um it's also the the bottom one um connects to your art walk. [2:18:16, 2:18:20]: Um and so we we're bringing people in at the bottom too, which is [2:18:21, 2:18:27]: you know, probably the main corridor into the to the plaza area to the front to the front door. [2:18:31, 2:18:32]: Sir does that answer your question? [2:18:35, 2:18:43]: You muted. It does. It does. Um I was trying to get a better I was trying to pitch a view of the [2:18:43, 2:18:45]: The landscaping [2:18:45, 2:18:48]: Um directly coming in. [2:18:48, 2:18:50]: And with the potential of [2:18:51, 2:18:53]: Future development on Burke Street. [2:18:54, 2:18:58]: to make sure that um you know everything sort of gel. [2:18:59, 2:19:00]: But I can't picture [2:19:00, 2:19:03]: I can't picture the the landscaping [2:19:05, 2:19:07]: uh you know, of that entryway is it [2:19:07, 2:19:10]: Is it sort of just bland or [2:19:10, 2:19:15]: Uh will that be a high profile entryway into the um [2:19:15, 2:19:17]: Cultural art from from Berk Street. [2:19:18, 2:19:25]: I mean, we we'd like to make it very nice. I mean, this is still early stages with a diagram as we move forward. [2:19:25, 2:19:28]: We'd be getting more into the details, um, but [2:19:28, 2:19:31]: Definitely would like to make it very nice and attractive as you enter this. [2:19:31, 2:19:32]: This great building. [2:19:35, 2:19:35]: Okay. [2:19:36, 2:19:41]: Okay, and I and I guess I would reserve some questions later as we get to that point. I'll just a little [2:19:42, 2:19:45]: Um not concerned. I just didn't see. [2:19:45, 2:19:50]: uh the enhancement uh from the Berk Street side and [2:19:50, 2:19:53]: How would future development [2:19:53, 2:19:59]: um coincide with that with that entryway going into um the culture art from Burke Street. [2:20:01, 2:20:02]: Yeah. [2:20:02, 2:20:03]: What's I think? [2:20:03, 2:20:05]: No to that and and [2:20:05, 2:20:09]: The next time we come back we'll we'll make sure to emphasize that area. [2:20:10, 2:20:13]: Well well and if I may, just for a quick minute. [2:20:14, 2:20:17]: Um and I know we all understand that parking [2:20:17, 2:20:20]: is an issue in our downtown. [2:20:20, 2:20:24]: And one thing that we have been sort of highlighting was that [2:20:24, 2:20:26]: Uh if there [2:20:26, 2:20:30]: When there are events at the amphitheater. [2:20:30, 2:20:34]: That that parking there um at the cultural arts facility. [2:20:35, 2:20:37]: would be available [2:20:37, 2:20:41]: So that w that's the reason for my question. I was trying to picture [2:20:41, 2:20:44]: How accessible would that be? [2:20:44, 2:20:48]: uh parking for uh concert goes [2:20:48, 2:20:51]: uh in that particular line. [2:20:54, 2:21:01]: Right. I we'll probably need to zoom out and and and put a zibot together where you can see that that connectivity and the possibility of that. [2:21:02, 2:21:16]: Okay. Well, and I I'll ask questions as we go, um, even um after tonight, uh, Mrs. Tovel, uh if if need be. But I appreciate uh that information, but I just want to make sure that [2:21:16, 2:21:21]: Everything coincide with the overall plan. [2:21:21, 2:21:28]: for downtown uh you know redevelopment and I think you know we have to sort of take all that in consideration. [2:21:30, 2:21:31]: Sure. [2:21:32, 2:21:34]: I yield back, Mayor. Thank you. Thank you. [2:21:35, 2:21:39]: Of course, just um a quick note on that. So we are going to improve the streetscape. [2:21:39, 2:21:42]: Along that edge, at least on the [2:21:42, 2:21:43]: Works uh [2:21:43, 2:21:46]: Birch Street side of the art center. [2:21:47, 2:21:48]: Um [2:21:48, 2:21:52]: So we will have a nice streetscape there. Um and [2:21:52, 2:21:54]: Earlier on we did have [2:21:55, 2:21:58]: a parcel on this uh property. [2:21:58, 2:22:04]: reserved for future development where you could do kind of strip retail. Um that was uh [2:22:05, 2:22:12]: you know, put to the side because of how it eliminated parking that could be uh that was needed for the art center. [2:22:12, 2:22:16]: Um but we're I'm glad to pull back up that plan if that's of interest. [2:22:19, 2:22:21]: Okay, um [2:22:21, 2:22:32]: And and and I reserve my other question for later. I won't uh tie tie up to me,'cause I know we've been sort of long already and we still have quite a bit to go tonight. But uh Mrs. Hubble, I may want to reach out to you. [2:22:33, 2:22:37]: uh at some point and and maybe discuss some other things up some I may have some other questions. [2:22:38, 2:22:39]: Sure thing. [2:22:39, 2:22:40]: All right. Thank you. [2:22:41, 2:22:43]: Is okay, go continue, please, Miss Hubble. [2:22:44, 2:23:00]: Sure, of course. So this is what the floor plan looked like in March. Obviously this was before engineers really got involved. The theater designers had been involved. That's why you see all of the uh good information on the theater itself. [2:23:00, 2:23:11]: Um but again, you know, we knew there were additional things that needed to be solved. So, you know, top on the list were acoustics and systems. So [2:23:11, 2:23:14]: uh our h or h vac, our plumbing [2:23:14, 2:23:16]: Um all the theater systems. [2:23:16, 2:23:17]: Um [2:23:18, 2:23:24]: structural system making sure that everything was going to work. So you know that was top on our list for this set. [2:23:24, 2:23:37]: Uh additionally, um you know we had received feedback to go ahead and try to increase seating capacity in the theater itself by eliminating um the individual uh private boxes. [2:23:37, 2:23:40]: Uh and then adding processional. [2:23:40, 2:23:43]: uh capability and functionality into the theater. [2:23:44, 2:23:45]: Um [2:23:45, 2:23:54]: You know, we also know knew that we need to address uh concessions, uh, due to the kind of squeezing of the theater building itself. [2:23:54, 2:24:14]: We originally started out with two concessions facilities, one on the main floor, the first floor, and one on the second floor. Uh the one on the main floor got eliminated. We only had a concession on the second floor, uh, and that created some functional issues, carrying drinks and popcorn and concessions up and down stairs for the theater uh really uh wasn't [2:24:14, 2:24:16]: doable so we need to solve that. [2:24:16, 2:24:29]: And then we need to look at re-incorporation of classrooms. So we wanted to solve where could we find space without increasing the building footprint to put back in classroom functions. [2:24:31, 2:24:33]: Uh so this is the updated floor plan. [2:24:34, 2:24:35]: Um [2:24:35, 2:24:48]: As you can see, we now have three floor plans. There was always intended to be a basement so that you know an orchestra and a pit could occur that hadn't been drawn, but now we have it drawn. You see it in the top left corner. [2:24:49, 2:24:54]: Um we have the main floor or the first floor and then we have the second floor. [2:24:55, 2:25:11]: Um so uh the uh blue components, the dark blue components again are the theater. Those are pretty much how you have seen them, uh except for some of the interior workings of the theater itself. I'm gonna talk about that increased capacity. [2:25:11, 2:25:29]: Um we have re-incorporated uh the classrooms. Those are the green components you see, the light green. Uh so we have three spaces now that can work for classrooms. Uh all of these can handle at least 25 uh people uh for a classroom setting. [2:25:30, 2:25:32]: Uh we have one that's on the first floor. [2:25:33, 2:25:46]: uh one that is on the second floor and then um a dual uh a dual flexible space that is both a theater practice space and could be a dance studio. So it's gonna have functionality for both. [2:25:46, 2:25:58]: Uh we still do have the gathering spaces which you see in red. Uh you have the main uh two-story lobby pre-function area. You still have the museum. [2:25:59, 2:26:05]: Uh and then we've taken concessions from the second story and we've moved it in. [2:26:06, 2:26:10]: Um to the first story and it is housed right here. Uh [2:26:10, 2:26:12]: due to feedback with staff. [2:26:12, 2:26:28]: Um, you know, we had a large archival space. Uh it actually appeared to be too large. So we minimized that, stretched out uh the museum space, which actually gives us more wall space for exhibits. [2:26:29, 2:26:32]: Um and incorporated the concessions down there. [2:26:33, 2:26:39]: What that did was free up a second story space uh that is a better gallery space. [2:26:39, 2:26:56]: uh than what we had previously, which was down here on the first floor. So this gallery space now is really part of this pre-function space on the second floor. And you'll actually be able to see art, have sculptures, and it will really enliven that pre-function space. [2:26:57, 2:26:59]: Ballroom remains the same. [2:27:00, 2:27:07]: Um and has not changed. Uh another thing that you'll notice is uh due to feedback and discussions uh with staff. [2:27:08, 2:27:12]: Um some of the two story spaces were really inefficient spaces. [2:27:12, 2:27:21]: So uh the museum, for instance, really didn't need the two the two-story space. So that allowed us to get some classroom space in. [2:27:21, 2:27:35]: Um the uh gallery space, which is nice at two stories, was really unusable as well. So we've used that to create uh a pre-function area to create sound isolation between um [2:27:35, 2:27:38]: you know, the entry and then that ballroom. [2:27:38, 2:27:46]: Uh so I really think you have a really robust plan here. Uh we've packed all we can in and been as efficient as we can. [2:27:46, 2:27:52]: uh so we can get some good pricing back uh and hopefully get all these com components that are uh [2:27:53, 2:27:54]: Requested and wanted. [2:27:57, 2:28:06]: Okay, Ms. Thomas, go ahead, please. Ms. Standby. Ms. Thomas, go ahead, please, sir. I I I'll wait until she finished this particular presentation. All right, sure. Go ahead, Heather. [2:28:07, 2:28:08]: Sure. [2:28:08, 2:28:28]: Um so wanted to talk about some of those items that we need to solve for. So acoustics are huge for the theater. There's no question. You know, it needs to be a high higher level than you would receive when you go into, let's say, a high school presentation or gym. [2:28:28, 2:28:42]: needs to feel professional. Everyone needs to have a great uh presentation when they go in there. We need to be able to have movies and the spoken word, theater, um, and uh [2:28:43, 2:28:50]: quartets and orchestras as well. And you know, that experience is super important. So the acoustical [2:28:50, 2:28:57]: um engineer who's involved has been very highly active in making sure we're getting everything incorporated in. [2:28:57, 2:29:01]: What that means is sound isolation is super important. [2:29:01, 2:29:17]: um sound isolation from other spaces, sound isolation from the roof, things that might filter in, including uh you know mechanical influences on the roof, all this has to be very highly thought out uh and designed properly. [2:29:18, 2:29:23]: So what that means is we are going to end up with some specialty walls in this project. [2:29:23, 2:29:24]: Uh [2:29:25, 2:29:25]: Right. [2:29:26, 2:29:35]: And I've highlighted the main ones for you here on the screen. They're not all of them, but they are kind of the key ones. So [2:29:35, 2:29:40]: Key is um the theater box. So and you see that here in yellow. [2:29:41, 2:29:44]: Um so that is gonna absolutely be especially well. [2:29:44, 2:29:48]: Uh we have gone back and forth about what that wall is. [2:29:48, 2:29:54]: Um we still may have some debate on that. Right now it is called out as precast. [2:29:54, 2:29:58]: Um that will give us the best sign isolation. [2:29:59, 2:30:00]: Uh [2:30:01, 2:30:17]: But it is an expensive wall. So we're thinking through all that carefully. There's still more discussion to occur about that, but at this stage, that is what this boundary box is, and it really will give us the best possible sound isolation. [2:30:17, 2:30:24]: Um there are also sound isolations that are planned for around the rehearsal um classroom. [2:30:24, 2:30:37]: uh because there may be theater productions going on in there, uh dance classes going on in there, and the ballroom. In those cases, those walls will more be a double wall that we can do with light age. [2:30:41, 2:30:49]: Um another key thing that really goes with sound isolation, as I mentioned, was the sound that comes down from the ceiling. [2:30:49, 2:30:56]: So it it's key for us to get uh mechanical units that have compressors off the roof. [2:30:56, 2:31:10]: And uh to do that, really what we have to do is uh invest in a central plant. Um there have been a lot of discussions about the most economical way to do that. Uh in this case, we have a four-pipe system. [2:31:11, 2:31:15]: Um and a central plant called out and that is what is gonna be priced. [2:31:15, 2:31:26]: It is currently gonna be located over here to the left, as you see, and it will be in the back of house area, so you won't see it from the front or the side of the art center. [2:31:28, 2:31:48]: Uh and then I wanted to talk about the seating. So we um we were given uh the go-ahead to try to remove the private boxes and to up the seating. So we have done that. Uh this is the updated theater plan that you see. Um we are currently at uh 405 seats, that is an [2:31:48, 2:32:08]: Approximate that will move slightly down or slightly up, pending the final chair that we select. Chairs are all a little different, and so those selections are forthcoming. The seat that has been shown here is mid-range for theater seats, so it's not a really small one, it's not a huge [2:32:08, 2:32:10]: huge one, it's kind of medium size. [2:32:11, 2:32:28]: You can see that we have removed the private seating and then we have put in these side aisles. These side aisles will stay flat with the theater surface itself, so we can do that processional up and processional back. [2:32:28, 2:32:34]: uh that would be needed for graduation or award ceremony, et cetera, to have in this space. [2:32:34, 2:32:54]: Um, you can also see that we're starting to get some articulation. Um, there's a want for a contemporary look inside of this theater. Um, so these walls will help us, but they're also the acoustical influence that you see here. Some walls need to be absorbed by the some walls need to reflect, and so. [2:32:54, 2:32:58]: all of that information is starting to get programmed into the space. [2:32:59, 2:33:02]: Um in the balcony we have maintained two private boxes. [2:33:03, 2:33:03]: Um [2:33:04, 2:33:11]: one to the left and one to the right. So there is kind of a VIP option there where you could purchase one of those two boxes. [2:33:20, 2:33:25]: Um, and those are the four main bulletin points I wanted to cover tonight. [2:33:26, 2:33:27]: Questions? [2:33:29, 2:33:36]: Uh Councilman Thomas, go ahead, please. Yes, thank you. Uh Mrs. Hubble, as you know, before uh Mr. Knighton left. [2:33:37, 2:33:45]: I shared some concerns with him and and he reached out to you and and I spoke to you as well about. [2:33:45, 2:33:49]: Um security on the first floor, on the ground floor when [2:33:49, 2:33:55]: Um folks are coming in. Can you speak to some of that? Um [2:33:56, 2:34:07]: whether it's reception area or security, just so folks cannot just walk in at will and no one knows, you know, that they are in the building. [2:34:07, 2:34:09]: And also could you share? [2:34:09, 2:34:10]: Um [2:34:10, 2:34:12]: uh storage [2:34:12, 2:34:15]: And uh are there office spaces? [2:34:15, 2:34:16]: Uh on the first floor. [2:34:18, 2:34:20]: Sure. Um [2:34:20, 2:34:23]: Yes, so I did receive the that feedback. [2:34:23, 2:34:24]: Um we [2:34:25, 2:34:45]: uh intend to incorporate the security. It has not been completely flushed out. There still needs to be work done on this central space that is all forthcoming. Our intent is to enlarge uh this room and express that uh [2:34:45, 2:34:45]: Desk. [2:34:46, 2:34:49]: more to allow for that to be a security desk. [2:34:50, 2:35:01]: uh as well as a reception, um you will see it uh balloon more into this plan. Uh that's part of that interiors focus forthcoming. [2:35:01, 2:35:03]: Um as far as the offices. [2:35:03, 2:35:04]: Uh [2:35:05, 2:35:22]: those have been left on the second floor, something has to go on the second floor. So then the giveaway the I guess compromise is the best way to say is that that reception and security desk on the first floor and then the office space remains on the second floor. [2:35:22, 2:35:25]: If there's if there's still concerns about this layout. [2:35:25, 2:35:33]: uh in this uh method, glad to hear them and um adjust as properly. There's really not room for a [2:35:34, 2:35:34]: Yeah. [2:35:35, 2:35:44]: office we on the first floor unless we move a couple of pieces to the second floor and then that's a really big move for this whole floor plan. [2:35:45, 2:35:47]: Uh the other concern was [2:35:48, 2:35:53]: And looking at the green room at the amphitheater. [2:35:53, 2:35:59]: Um strategically looked like some of the outlets were not. [2:36:00, 2:36:03]: А конвентли плясть [2:36:03, 2:36:09]: Um did you take any of that in consideration uh in laying out [2:36:09, 2:36:15]: uh electrical outlet boxes um in the uh culture art center. [2:36:15, 2:36:21]: Sure. Um so we're not to the electrical layout per individual outlets. [2:36:21, 2:36:25]: Um but I have heard of that concern. I know we're uh [2:36:27, 2:36:29]: preparing to address it for that green room. [2:36:30, 2:36:34]: And we'll make sure that uh that adjustment is made here. [2:36:35, 2:36:35]: All right. [2:36:35, 2:36:38]: Thank you. I yield back, Maya. Thank you. [2:36:38, 2:36:40]: Any other questions for storage storage? [2:36:41, 2:36:42]: Mrs. Table. [2:36:43, 2:36:48]: Oh yes, I apologize. So storage is throughout uh this plan. [2:36:48, 2:36:52]: Um there are there's large storage rooms in the back. [2:36:52, 2:37:05]: That you can see here, there's also a large building services area here as well on as the second floor. And then we have classroom storage here on the second floor. [2:37:05, 2:37:14]: This is done throughout the plan. There are lots of different specific storage rooms. Here we have a ballroom storage. So [2:37:15, 2:37:21]: Glad to provide more kind of breakdown of how much storage we have, but we feel currently that we're adequate. [2:37:25, 2:37:25]: Good deal. [2:37:26, 2:37:28]: Any other question from Ms. Hobel? [2:37:30, 2:37:30]: Okay. [2:37:31, 2:37:32]: Anything else, Miss Hubble? [2:37:34, 2:37:35]: That's it. [2:37:35, 2:37:36]: Okay. [2:37:37, 2:37:39]: Thank you for your time. Appreciate it. [2:37:42, 2:37:43]: You're done. [2:37:44, 2:37:45]: I'm sorry, go ahead, Carl. [2:37:45, 2:37:46]: Sure. [2:37:46, 2:37:55]: Uh getting my share screen back up. Thank you, Heather. And hang on, Heather, because there might be some other questions about other projects that come up that that you'll be able to answer for me. [2:37:55, 2:38:06]: So looking at the cultural arts project sheet here, the as we just talked about, the schematic drawings are now complete. [2:38:06, 2:38:26]: The city has started the procurement process for the construction manager at risk. Um step one has been completed and there were uh three firms that submitted qualifications. Uh I believe that those are being reviewed uh by the procurement office and uh will determine [2:38:27, 2:38:33]: Uh which one of those are all those that may move into step two of the procurement process? [2:38:33, 2:38:45]: But we're looking at getting our construction manager at risk on board sometime in January. Now that's gonna be very important for us to have them on board as we tackle budget issues and [2:38:45, 2:38:55]: and look at um internally with the design team of cost of construction and and bantering ideas about different things. So the construction managers [2:38:56, 2:39:00]: dear to the ground will be very helpful for us moving forward. [2:39:00, 2:39:01]: Um [2:39:03, 2:39:07]: Just a couple of other things on the status. Uh probably don't need to get in too much detail, but [2:39:08, 2:39:11]: Uh Heather and her group are involving uh [2:39:11, 2:39:13]: uh Georgia D O T regarding [2:39:13, 2:39:17]: Solving some improvements that are required along North Henry Boulevard. [2:39:18, 2:39:22]: It looks like that might require some additional right of way. [2:39:22, 2:39:27]: uh as we probably are going to have to entertain uh introducing a deceleration lane. [2:39:28, 2:39:32]: Uh so there may be some some right of way issues to deal with at some point. [2:39:33, 2:39:53]: Um and then um we're also in into site due diligence. We're initiating the geotechnical studies, the seismic studies, uh looking at all the utility uh availability and relocations with Georgia Power. So those that's where we're basically that's what's going on on site is doing this uh [2:39:53, 2:39:54]: This new diligence. [2:39:56, 2:40:05]: Um financially, uh obviously, I guess it's my job, but you know, there's always a concern about what's the cost of this project. [2:40:05, 2:40:16]: Um and uh so we have um Heather's a costing consultant now has been given the schematic package set. Uh we went through a very good detailed [2:40:17, 2:40:26]: uh workshop with them. I think it was a Friday before um last week. And so now they are embarking on a very [2:40:27, 2:40:47]: um a detailed um costing exercise. So we're awaiting with bated breath um what those numbers are gonna be when they come back. But uh certainly, you know, I guess I guess my job is to be concerned about it. Uh the market is very volatile. Uh you know we're hitting an inflation site. [2:40:47, 2:40:47]: Michael. [2:40:47, 2:40:52]: Um so there's a lot of there's a lot of cost pressures on this project right now. [2:40:53, 2:41:13]: uh in addition to you know additional programming that that may creep into the project uh already or as we go along. So uh just wanted to to state that that uh you know we we really are going to be at a reconciliation point soon to see what what this project market value is versus uh the dollars available [2:41:12, 2:41:16]: available. And so that that time that's going to be coming up very shortly. [2:41:18, 2:41:29]: Um so just going through some key points on the timeline. Uh mentioned a few of those, but further down the line as we move through year 22. [2:41:29, 2:41:38]: Um there's gonna be uh several steps of design. Um the as we finish schematic design, we'll be into design development. [2:41:39, 2:41:40]: That package shouldn't be complete. [2:41:41, 2:41:47]: Around June, uh we will meet again to make a budget reconciliation at that point. Make sure we're in budget. [2:41:48, 2:41:52]: Uh the the construction documents will be complete in November. [2:41:52, 2:41:53]: Um [2:41:53, 2:41:55]: Those will be permit ready. [2:41:55, 2:41:58]: Um and also another opportunity to [2:41:58, 2:42:04]: Uh well that's gonna be our final opportunity to to cost check this project, uh making sure we're in budget. [2:42:04, 2:42:05]: Um so [2:42:06, 2:42:07]: You know, in addition to [2:42:08, 2:42:09]: The already known [2:42:10, 2:42:16]: inflationary factors that are in the market right now. We also have to understand that we're not letting this project [2:42:16, 2:42:17]: Um [2:42:17, 2:42:27]: to the contractor until the end of two thousand twenty two and there's a lot of unknowns of what's gonna happen market wise between now and then. So [2:42:28, 2:42:32]: You know, the the whole the whole year of twenty two as we finished this design. [2:42:33, 2:42:36]: Uh is going to be it's gonna require [2:42:36, 2:42:39]: Uh quite an effort to make sure we keep the project in budget. [2:42:40, 2:42:44]: Um, there's gonna be a lot of decisions that need to be made that um you know that that's [2:42:45, 2:42:47]: That'll be we'll deal with that as we go. [2:42:47, 2:42:50]: Uh but I just want you to be prepared for that. But um [2:42:50, 2:42:53]: That that's the reality of the market right now. [2:42:53, 2:42:58]: Um so we're keying on um being able to start construction. [2:42:58, 2:43:00]: January of twenty three. [2:43:01, 2:43:02]: I will tell you that's a [2:43:02, 2:43:05]: That's an awful time of the year to bring a project out of the ground. [2:43:06, 2:43:12]: Um generally we don't try to bring anything out of the ground in January, February. So we'll need to talk carefully about [2:43:12, 2:43:20]: uh when we want to uh to initiate the uh national construction of the project. But again, that's a discussion for another day. [2:43:22, 2:43:30]: Um, so that's the end of the project sheet for the Cultural Arts Center. I'll entertain any additional questions about what I've just gone through here, if there are any. [2:43:33, 2:43:35]: Mayor. Yeah, go right here, Mayor Proton. [2:43:35, 2:43:40]: Yeah, I'm just a bit dumbfounded. It's gonna take an entire year to put the plan together. [2:43:41, 2:43:42]: She's [2:43:45, 2:43:50]: I w I was I was certainly hoping for a very a much more ambitious timetable than that. Um [2:43:51, 2:43:56]: We have the fund funding in place and everything, and it's gonna take that long for us to move forward. Jeez. [2:44:01, 2:44:13]: Certainly that is that is a timeline that's that's been put together. There's a very detailed uh chart that outlines all the activities that have to be done between now and the start of construction. [2:44:13, 2:44:19]: You know, a lot of those are are well, all of those are are driven by the ability of the design team to [2:44:19, 2:44:36]: to move through uh what they need to do. So um I don't know, Heather, if you want to comment any additional uh have any additional comments on on your design timeline. Uh sure is the driver of the pro of the uh pre-development budget or the predevelopment schedule. [2:44:36, 2:44:38]: Sure, of course. Um [2:44:38, 2:44:43]: As you can as you can tell just from the presentation I just made. [2:44:43, 2:44:47]: that uh we have a schematic set that has 97 sheets. [2:44:48, 2:45:04]: That is a huge amount of sheets and we're just beginning to address all the nuts and bolts that need to be addressed for a fully functional art center. Um this is uh much more technical and uh complicated than [2:45:04, 2:45:06]: Uh the amphitheatre is [2:45:06, 2:45:10]: Um everything is in t is inside. [2:45:10, 2:45:17]: Uh everything has to be very controlled and precisely done, uh, or we get into construction and it's a mess. [2:45:18, 2:45:33]: So we really need to give the engineers and all the designers the time it takes to really do a great job of designing and detailing because we have a ton of specialty rooms, classrooms, ballroom, theater. [2:45:33, 2:45:40]: Um all of these things uh need to be done so that you're satisfied with the end product. [2:45:40, 2:45:45]: Uh and it it takes time to make sure we're coordinating and doing that properly. [2:45:47, 2:46:07]: I would just add that similar projects of this complexity of this size, um, in my experience, um, this is the this is in my mind the correct timeline for this. Um, I think rushing this uh gives us the opportunity to miss too many details. And I certainly don't want to be [2:46:07, 2:46:17]: standing before you as construction starts and you know trying to make excuses as to why a lot of details are missed. I I just think that haste makes waste. [2:46:18, 2:46:20]: I know that's placheus, but um [2:46:20, 2:46:23]: trying to fast track this this um [2:46:23, 2:46:26]: This timeline I think would be a detriment to the project. [2:46:30, 2:46:31]: Councilwoman Barber, go ahead, please. [2:46:34, 2:46:42]: Yeah, I think um Mr. Trevathan and Ms. Hubble just explained. Um I have the same concerns as Mayor Pro Tem Alexander. [2:46:42, 2:46:44]: Uh, I kind of was expecting [2:46:45, 2:46:47]: groundbreaking at the end of the year. [2:46:47, 2:46:48]: Um [2:46:48, 2:46:49]: So [2:46:50, 2:46:53]: I remember us approving this during the retreat. [2:46:54, 2:46:55]: So between now [2:46:56, 2:46:57]: Well, between [2:46:57, 2:46:59]: February up until now. [2:47:01, 2:47:02]: Has it just been the [2:47:03, 2:47:04]: Design or [2:47:07, 2:47:08]: What has been transpiring? [2:47:09, 2:47:11]: From February up until this point. [2:47:14, 2:47:15]: So [2:47:15, 2:47:18]: Fees for professional um [2:47:18, 2:47:21]: Design work with all the engineers didn't get approved. [2:47:22, 2:47:25]: Um until the end of [2:47:25, 2:47:26]: August. [2:47:27, 2:47:40]: So we didn't get started until September. And immediately within two weeks, we did the programming survey to get feedback from council on how to move forward appropriately. [2:47:40, 2:47:43]: And then we've only had six weeks or [2:47:43, 2:47:44]: Um [2:47:44, 2:47:51]: uh eight weeks to get to where we are now, which is schematic. So we did not get started till the end of August. [2:47:51, 2:47:53]: Awesome. Thank you. Thank you very much. [2:47:55, 2:47:57]: Yeah, questions. [2:47:59, 2:48:19]: All right, Carl, Heather, thank you for your presentation. All right. A few more projects just to give you an update on. I think we can move through these pretty quick. Ted Strickland renovation documents, uh construction documents are complete. Uh, and the uh the bidding phase for the general contractor should be occurring soon. [2:48:19, 2:48:24]: I don't have the exact date from the procurement offices or when those are happening, but it's [2:48:24, 2:48:26]: Um very eminent. [2:48:29, 2:48:31]: I'll move through these quick. So if you got a uh [2:48:31, 2:48:33]: Got a question, jump in. [2:48:33, 2:48:49]: Um the uh 114 uh Martin Luther King Senior tenant space renovation has been let for bid and uh bids have been received and the um city procurement office is in the in the negotiating phase with general contractors on that. [2:48:49, 2:48:55]: So as soon as the contractor is on board, uh that project can begin construction. [2:48:59, 2:49:01]: Uh let's see. [2:49:02, 2:49:06]: So the amphitheatre spa splash pad, um I I think it's [2:49:07, 2:49:13]: I think this one needs a little bit of attention. I know that CSW is awaiting approval of their task order for the concept drawing, so [2:49:14, 2:49:20]: Um I would just uh urge um whatever it takes to get [2:49:20, 2:49:22]: TSW turned loose to move forward. [2:49:23, 2:49:33]: Um I know that it was the intention of getting this flash pad project completed next year. I think attention needs to be given to the approval so that uh uh [2:49:34, 2:49:36]: Heather Steam can get started on that. [2:49:37, 2:49:39]: And you want to add anything to that, Heather? [2:49:44, 2:49:45]: Not at this time. [2:49:45, 2:49:46]: Okay. [2:49:47, 2:49:48]: Um [2:49:50, 2:49:56]: Mayor, if I may. Yeah, go ahead, Councilman Thomas. Carl, you you just made a statement about [2:49:57, 2:49:57]: Um [2:50:00, 2:50:05]: It was something about procurement and you said that you was waiting. [2:50:05, 2:50:07]: Can can you repeat that that statement? [2:50:08, 2:50:11]: Uh, I believe that was a project um [2:50:13, 2:50:15]: one fourteen M LK [2:50:15, 2:50:16]: Senior tenant. [2:50:16, 2:50:21]: Renovation is that the one that you want to about that or it might have been about the [2:50:22, 2:50:25]: I'm not sure if it was about to tell. I I got sort of distracted but [2:50:26, 2:50:28]: Right. [2:50:29, 2:50:33]: on something and I just want to ask the question. I was going to ask um [2:50:33, 2:50:34]: Mr. Wiggins [2:50:35, 2:50:38]: Uh a a question as it relates to [2:50:38, 2:50:48]: uh procurement and I was uh looking for a timeline, but uh I'll I'll let you go go go through uh it may come back to me, but I I sort of heard that [2:50:48, 2:50:52]: I was writing something and I heard you say something and I didn't fully understand. [2:50:53, 2:50:56]: But I wanted to get a better understanding on timelines. [2:50:56, 2:50:58]: Um from [2:50:59, 2:51:02]: you know, in in procurement, how [2:51:02, 2:51:07]: things are sort of moving forward, you know. And I guess my concern is [2:51:07, 2:51:08]: Waiting. [2:51:09, 2:51:12]: It see when I keep hearing waiting. [2:51:12, 2:51:15]: And with some presentation I've heard um [2:51:16, 2:51:19]: Uh someone say uh waiting on uh [2:51:19, 2:51:25]: further instruction. See things like that. I get a little upset when [2:51:26, 2:51:29]: When you have folks ready to move and they're waiting. [2:51:30, 2:51:32]: on further instructions or [2:51:32, 2:51:35]: We're waiting on something to to happen. [2:51:36, 2:51:41]: Um, but anyway, that that just sort of my concern and I just wanted to make sure that [2:51:42, 2:51:42]: Um [2:51:43, 2:52:03]: Everybody is just doing what they need to do. I was a little concerned about uh the schedule for the uh cultural arts, but I had already asked that question uh to Mrs. Hubble before, and she sort of told me what she told you all, and I was a little disappointed in that as well. So that's why I'm sort of speaking to. [2:52:03, 2:52:10]: To these processes, and we have to make sure that when the ball is handed off to the next entity. [2:52:10, 2:52:12]: That is continuously moving. [2:52:12, 2:52:14]: And if there's something within [2:52:15, 2:52:27]: in our uh ability, say our procurement or our city manager or whatever, we just need to make sure that these things are moving. And so you just sort of caught my ear when you said something about [2:52:27, 2:52:34]: um you were waiting on something and i i was a little concerned about that but i'll let you go forward though and finish [2:52:35, 2:52:37]: Okay, thank you for that. [2:52:38, 2:52:39]: Um [2:52:40, 2:52:56]: So the Merrill Manders conference refresh again is in the same uh spot um that and I hate to use the word awaiting after that, but um TSW is needing approval of their task order for that to do the concept drawings. [2:52:57, 2:52:59]: uh on on this project. [2:53:02, 2:53:04]: A few more left here. [2:53:05, 2:53:05]: Um [2:53:06, 2:53:10]: park system plan that TSW is working on. [2:53:13, 2:53:20]: Heather is working on a task order proposal that um I'm not sure exactly what your timeline is, Heather, to have that sent. [2:53:20, 2:53:24]: Uh, but I know you told me this uh past week that you were working on getting that. [2:53:25, 2:53:26]: Uh proposal ready. [2:53:26, 2:53:31]: Th this one is actually on uh the agenda tonight under old. [2:53:31, 2:53:32]: Old business. [2:53:33, 2:53:34]: Okay, that's true. Yes. [2:53:37, 2:53:37]: Thank you. [2:53:39, 2:53:54]: Uh the per public works storage facility concepts have been completed uh by TSW. Uh so uh I guess that Heather now needs to uh to work through the approvals of that with the city before uh [2:53:54, 2:53:57]: before that project moves forward. Have you got any other comments about that one? [2:53:58, 2:54:02]: Uh yes, you know, uh the awaiting is is not uh [2:54:03, 2:54:15]: Correct on this. Uh this task order was only four concepts. Um we have received feedback from the city uh and I actually owe them a new floor plan uh that has been [2:54:15, 2:54:18]: completed and will get sent to Dacious this week. [2:54:19, 2:54:31]: Right. And I'm going to going forward make sure I carefully choose whether I use the word awaiting on anything and give you a better definition of what we're really doing at that point. So I I do appreciate those comments and feedback. [2:54:31, 2:54:34]: And how we present these reports. [2:54:35, 2:54:43]: Um the last one I wanted to bring up is the police headquarters. I believe it's on the docket uh for TSW's task order to be approved tonight. [2:54:44, 2:54:47]: Uh we'll be moving very quickly with that. Um [2:54:47, 2:54:48]: My discussions [2:54:49, 2:54:50]: Earlier today. [2:54:50, 2:54:53]: Uh uh with uh Chief Tramor. [2:54:53, 2:55:10]: uh was that this does have a very quick timeline in order to get him uh up and running uh this summer according to his timeline. So uh this project is gonna have to to find a way to move very quickly to uh to accommodate that. And so we'll be uh [2:55:10, 2:55:15]: Working on a plan uh that accomplishes that time frame. [2:55:18, 2:55:25]: Uh so that's the end of my presentation. If there's not any more questions for me, I will give it back to you, Mayor. [2:55:25, 2:55:32]: All right, thank you, sir. Any any any final questions for uh Carl and Heather uh give up to podium. [2:55:33, 2:55:35]: I see none. Okay. [2:55:36, 2:55:45]: All right. On that note, uh Interdev projects update, status and timeline, Ashley Smith, Nathan Holder or Mr. Bonds. [2:55:53, 2:55:55]: Bear with me. [2:55:56, 2:56:00]: Well good evening, honorable mayor and council. I'm Nathan Holder with Interdev. [2:56:00, 2:56:09]: Uh, thank you for having us. Um, full disclosure, Ash Ashley Smith, our CIO or your CIO, was slated to give this presentation. We had a hard stop at [2:56:10, 2:56:17]: eight thirty so we're in a next man up situation. So me and uh me and Robert will get you guys through this. Uh [2:56:17, 2:56:32]: But uh the good news is uh our presentation I don't think will be as long as the previous ones. So um and and in fact I could probably run through these slides right quick and uh save questions to the end. But if you have any, ple please feel free to interject. [2:56:33, 2:56:34]: Right um [2:56:35, 2:56:49]: I like to start out with uh always ta uh mentioning the Interdev team because uh Robert Bonds is the person you see every day on site here. But uh Ashley Smith's your CIO. He has a team of engineers that also assist. [2:56:49, 2:56:53]: Robert on a weekly basis on various projects. Uh Jesse Kale are [2:56:54, 2:57:12]: Chief Information Security Officer. Uh his team he has a team of dedicated security professionals that have gotten more involved on the Stockbridge account just due to the increased importance of cybersecurity. So his team in our back office actually monitor actually monitors a lot of your uh infrastructure on a week on a weekly basis. [2:57:13, 2:57:20]: Then you have myself as your account manager and Britton Wilson, our service delivery manager, who monitors your service board and ensures we're adhering to our SLAs. [2:57:22, 2:57:24]: Um I'll run through these [2:57:24, 2:57:28]: Current projects this year, uh, and then we'll move forward to next year. Uh there's [2:57:29, 2:57:33]: Six in total. Um, and I'll go through each of them right quick. [2:57:34, 2:57:34]: Um [2:57:35, 2:57:38]: First one is we up uh we're upgrading your [2:57:39, 2:57:43]: Backup and disaster recovery platform. You're on a barracuda appliance now, but uh [2:57:44, 2:57:50]: We're uh beefing up your backup to Veeam, uh, which is a better solution for you and uh [2:57:50, 2:57:54]: We're replicating it between city hall and public works. [2:57:55, 2:57:57]: Uh that way if one goes down [2:57:57, 2:58:09]: we recover at another site and there's no loss in in data or connectivity. Uh we'll eventually expand that uh to City Hall public public works and the police department. Um [2:58:09, 2:58:12]: with also in the future a cloud replication. [2:58:13, 2:58:15]: Um as uh budget allows. [2:58:15, 2:58:22]: Um and that should be actually that's in progress and actually should be completed um the uh end or the middle of next month. [2:58:22, 2:58:26]: Um, we upgraded your firewall this year, as you'll see a trend. [2:58:27, 2:58:32]: Cybersecurity is more and more important. You know, our job is we want to keep [2:58:32, 2:58:34]: Our customers out of the news from [2:58:35, 2:58:40]: being hacked so and a f a firewall is one of the biggest ways you can prevent that. [2:58:40, 2:58:42]: Uh so we upgraded from your [2:58:42, 2:58:48]: Marocke system to uh forta fortigate, uh which is kind of our our standard and [2:58:49, 2:58:49]: Um [2:58:50, 2:58:52]: We have placed that in high availability and [2:58:53, 2:58:56]: In layman's terms, that means that if one appliance goes down. [2:58:57, 2:59:09]: the uh you don't lose any internet connectivity uh at your site'cause uh you have redundancy in place. Uh before you did not. So that would that was a big accomplishment on our end. And that was uh completed um [2:59:10, 2:59:11]: Back in um [2:59:11, 2:59:12]: Лейт Октоб. [2:59:13, 2:59:18]: Um our security team uh has implemented Sentinel One. [2:59:18, 2:59:21]: Antivirus, this is a big deal because a lot of cyber [2:59:22, 2:59:25]: Секюрін. [2:59:26, 2:59:32]: Uh you you can't even get cyber insurance unless you have in point detection a response, which you did not before. [2:59:32, 2:59:37]: You do na have that now with this new platform. And it so the importance of that is [2:59:38, 2:59:38]: If [2:59:39, 2:59:50]: Your uh the software sees a threat um hitting your system, our our secure it reports it to our back office security team immediately and they [2:59:50, 2:59:56]: immediately begin instant response and prevent a bad situation from happening. Um [2:59:56, 2:59:59]: And that's again a c cyber security standard. [3:00:00, 3:00:04]: moving forward, uh, that just had has to be in place. Um [3:00:05, 3:00:11]: The Robert, you could probably p uh pick uh piggyback on this one because you were involved with the city network. [3:00:11, 3:00:13]: Connectivity project. [3:00:15, 3:00:30]: Definitely. Um multiple uh buildings that we have were on uh different circuits, one of them bringing Airspring. So we wanted to uh give them a more robust connection with AT<unk>T fiber so that all the buildings are on the same network. [3:00:30, 3:00:47]: uh on one billing cycle that way it's easy for us as far as spending, but also just to make sure that um each building has an adequate internet connection, uh which before we did not. Some buildings had good connections, some buildings didn't, and we just combined those until ATT fiber. [3:00:50, 3:00:50]: Okay. [3:00:52, 3:00:58]: The amphitheater, that was obviously a big project this year. Uh we built out your network. Um [3:00:58, 3:01:06]: Gotta give kudos to our team because there's some last minute network equipment that had to be ordered. And we had a small army down there at the amphitheater helping Robert. Uh [3:01:06, 3:01:14]: meet the deadline so uh before that first concert. Uh and we're able to do it. Um and that is uh up and running. [3:01:16, 3:01:21]: Uh the public works building, your network down there, that's actually [3:01:22, 3:01:29]: uh slated to could uh be completed at the end of this week, but Robert, that might have been completed as early as this evening. [3:01:30, 3:01:30]: Correct. [3:01:31, 3:01:37]: Correct. The final connection for the JCI uh security cameras and car readers were [3:01:37, 3:01:41]: uh finally connected this this afternoon. So we are done. [3:01:41, 3:01:42]: Very good. [3:01:42, 3:01:48]: Yeah, we had one of our network engineers, Kai Parker, uh who so a lot of you guys know out there finishing that up today. [3:01:49, 3:01:51]: So moving forward into twenty twenty two. [3:01:52, 3:01:52]: Um [3:01:53, 3:01:57]: These are kind of some of our big initiatives, multi-factor authentication. [3:01:58, 3:02:06]: Again, a standard for insurance companies, you have to have it for you to get coverage. Um we'll be deploying that citywide. [3:02:06, 3:02:14]: And uh that'll what that'll entail is periodically when you try to log into your Microsoft account, you might get a uh push notification on your phone. [3:02:14, 3:02:16]: And sharing it's you. [3:02:16, 3:02:18]: uh just another layer of security. [3:02:18, 3:02:28]: And when that's in place, it's really um it really prevents uh attacks from happening. Uh dark web monitoring, um [3:02:28, 3:02:30]: Kind of a small project, but uh [3:02:31, 3:02:31]: It's [3:02:31, 3:02:35]: It's a platform we use to monitor to make sure that um [3:02:36, 3:02:41]: proprietary city information confidential stuff is not being posted on the dark web. [3:02:41, 3:02:44]: Uh and it alert and alerts us if it is. [3:02:44, 3:02:45]: Um [3:02:46, 3:02:47]: Email security [3:02:47, 3:02:56]: We're upgrading that platform to decrease the on as you guys have probably seen over the years. Spam becomes more and more of an issue. So [3:02:56, 3:03:05]: The the more we upgrade and beef that uh that email protection up, the less spam you should be receiving. And uh and this should go a long way in preventing that. Um [3:03:06, 3:03:09]: But perhaps the two biggest projects coming up that uh [3:03:09, 3:03:25]: We have not been we're not quoted yet, but to be determined as the new police department, which, you know, as Kekka would mention, there's going to be a fast timeline on that. So we'll be looking forward to working with Chief um and others on, you know, what all that's going to entail to get that network up and running. Um and all the [3:03:26, 3:03:30]: Technology and resources that a new police department r requires. [3:03:30, 3:03:31]: Um [3:03:32, 3:03:33]: And um [3:03:33, 3:03:40]: Yeah, we're we're anxious and that'll also require additional resources that we budget for next next year as well. [3:03:40, 3:03:48]: Um, and that likewise the Ted Strickland building will be needing to plan that out sooner than later on the network. So [3:03:48, 3:03:50]: That is [3:03:51, 3:03:59]: I know a very quick run through. Um, hope I didn't go too fast. I probably did, but we're Rob and I are happy to field any questions. [3:04:01, 3:04:03]: In questions council at all. [3:04:06, 3:04:07]: Um [3:04:07, 3:04:08]: Yeah, go ahead, Miss Barber. [3:04:08, 3:04:11]: So is Chief Tramer on the line? [3:04:12, 3:04:13]: T years. [3:04:16, 3:04:17]: Keep training up. [3:04:18, 3:04:19]: I just had a good. [3:04:19, 3:04:20]: Відрасті [3:04:21, 3:04:22]: Um the email [3:04:23, 3:04:28]: Regarding the cameras, um, I think Mayor Pro Tem Alexander were asking about [3:04:28, 3:04:33]: earlier today. What role would IT? [3:04:33, 3:04:35]: playing in those [3:04:35, 3:04:37]: Cameras or the install. [3:04:38, 3:04:41]: Yeah, they wouldn't play a role in the install, but they uh [3:04:41, 3:04:45]: cameras that would require uh network connectivity, I believe that [3:04:46, 3:04:51]: they would have to get involved in that, especially some of the cameras that we have that will be [3:04:51, 3:05:00]: place around the city. They're gonna have to feed into the cloud somehow. We'll have to be able to bring that back to the video management system. [3:05:00, 3:05:08]: And I'm not an IT person, so they might be able to speak more intelligently to that. I know they'll be involved, but they won't be involved directly with the installation. [3:05:09, 3:05:12]: Okay. Yes, I would uh I mean we would definitely ask that. [3:05:12, 3:05:13]: You know [3:05:13, 3:05:19]: Our team, especially Ashra, CEO CIO, I mean, he has so much familiarity with police systems. So [3:05:20, 3:05:24]: Even as those decisions of selecting those vendors is coming up, you know, we want to [3:05:24, 3:05:28]: make sure we're involved in that and consulting and even that in that selection. [3:05:31, 3:05:32]: Okay. [3:05:32, 3:05:43]: So Mr. Holder, do you do you anticipate an increase in manpower to accommodate um the rollout of our police department? [3:05:43, 3:05:58]: Yes, ma'am. And we put we uh I don't have that number in front of me, but Ashley Smith, he he has put it in the budget for next year, but it wouldn't go into effect until it until it is needed. But you you're looking at at le uh another full time person. [3:05:58, 3:06:00]: I would imagine. Um [3:06:01, 3:06:05]: to you know support support of police force tet the technology wise. [3:06:05, 3:06:14]: Okay. I certainly would want um once we get a new city manager on board, this is something I certainly would want us to consider. [3:06:14, 3:06:17]: Um perhaps bringing this in-house. [3:06:17, 3:06:18]: Um [3:06:20, 3:06:20]: Just a thought. [3:06:21, 3:06:22]: But that's all. [3:06:24, 3:06:25]: Any other questions, Council? [3:06:27, 3:06:33]: Uh yes, uh, real quick. Go ahead. Uh in terms of the overall, we had talked about uh having [3:06:33, 3:06:42]: Coverage for downtown as a whole. So, what is the range on what we have at the amphitheater now? So, if you're at the amphitheater, [3:06:42, 3:06:47]: and you wanna uh have that downtown connection, what is the range on that? [3:06:50, 3:06:55]: Are are you talking about like wireless? Wi Fi, yes. Okay. [3:06:55, 3:06:58]: Robert, would would you be able to answer that? [3:06:58, 3:07:17]: Yeah, right now we only have Wi-Fi for the actual seating and the parking lot of the amphitheater. We would need to expand, uh, get more devices or more services from uh ATT, our current provider. If we want to expand that, uh that's a pretty sizable uh fee, but it can be done. But right now. [3:07:17, 3:07:18]: Yeah. [3:07:18, 3:07:21]: only covers the amphitheater and his guests. [3:07:22, 3:07:28]: Well, we had had the previous discussions about the entire downtown being covered. We wanted to be an attraction point. [3:07:29, 3:07:32]: So when you do come downtown or walk on the trails or what have you. [3:07:32, 3:07:35]: That you have access to the to the Wi Fi. [3:07:36, 3:07:39]: So I guess that's something we need to put together and see. [3:07:39, 3:07:42]: uh what that looks like in terms of overall cost. [3:07:44, 3:08:00]: Definitely, we can definitely um work with Ashley to do that, get that uh cost. Um and also, I guess, uh get with uh the mayor about exactly what those bounds are, so that way we know we cover everything. [3:08:00, 3:08:10]: Uh, because we don't wanna misquote um if we leave somebody out. So if we get a clear definition of what needs to be covered, we definitely come back with that cost. [3:08:11, 3:08:23]: All right, we can work on that. Definitely. All right. And may approach him. That was a that did come up uh with Randy Knight and I believe the week before he left. So I think it kind of stalled after that. But yeah, we can follow up. [3:08:25, 3:08:29]: Okay. All right. Anything else, Council? [3:08:32, 3:08:39]: All right, I don't see anything else at this moment. Okay. Uh thank you, gentlemen. Appreciate that. Uh thank you. Okay. [3:08:39, 3:08:47]: On this at this is a time uh councilman Thomas, go ahead, please. Uh I don't have any question for any of that. I I have a closing [3:08:47, 3:08:52]: statement I'd just like to make um and a request uh [3:08:52, 3:08:56]: at the end of this segment if if if that is the end. [3:08:57, 3:09:01]: It is the end. Actually, what it is, I was gonna ask for us to go into executive session. [3:09:01, 3:09:03]: Um real quick. [3:09:04, 3:09:11]: Well, go ahead. But it has to come after this section here. And if I may, just go ahead and get into that. I just wanted to um um [3:09:13, 3:09:26]: share with the council, you know, at our at our last meeting, uh, I made this request for these updates. And and I hope that mayor and council, I hope that we all see now and understand how important [3:09:27, 3:09:29]: Uh these updates were [3:09:29, 3:09:32]: Uh a lot of things that we didn't know. [3:09:33, 3:09:35]: Uh we injected a lot of things in. [3:09:36, 3:09:42]: And I won't really get too deep into that, but I think it was so important tonight and I think it was eye-opening for all of us. [3:09:43, 3:09:46]: So my my recommendation now is [3:09:46, 3:09:54]: And and and I'm gonna ask the city clerk to to weigh in on this, but I think that going forward, we need to require [3:09:54, 3:09:56]: Uh the city manager [3:09:56, 3:10:00]: to give us a m in his um monthly report. [3:10:01, 3:10:05]: uh a a an update a status update [3:10:05, 3:10:10]: on all project. I think this is a must for us to have going forward. For me. [3:10:11, 3:10:31]: I see clearly we we needed that because we were so in the blind of all of these projects. And even uh I think citizens now understand too that we are in a lot of the infrastructure for this city. It's not about all of the bells and the whistles, you know, the amphitheater and the culture art, but we are [3:10:31, 3:10:50]: Are paying attention to the infrastructure, you know, the guts and the framework of this city. And I think it was good information that came out tonight. But just to cut my little speech here short, I like to recommend, and I don't know if that is in the job description of the city manager, a monthly report. [3:10:50, 3:11:10]: Um that will give us a status update. And the mayor, if I may, you may know this, the city clerk, you may know, but I don't know if that is in the job description. And if it's not, I like to make sure that this is a requirement of the city manager coming in to give us uh a monthly update uh on all projects. [3:11:10, 3:11:11]: [11473.0, 11485.5]: We can easily add tag that to that city manager and to the interim until we get the city manager if that's the case. But yes, uh, we can do it. I can't recall if it's out outrightly outlined in this in the job description. I'm pretty sure there's something similar to that. [3:11:26, 3:11:27]: And but we can take care of that. [3:11:27, 3:11:34]: Okay. No problem. It is important for us to uh get these updates because we need to be in the know. [3:11:34, 3:11:54]: Thank you, sir. No problem, you're welcome. At this point, I'd like the motion to uh go into executive session uh and to deal with real estate issues and and that means that uh upon this approval, besides the council, but all our attorneys uh would need to get a connectivity to that uh separate um uh link along with Mr. Peterson. [3:11:54, 3:12:02]: And I don't think I think and everybody else will just have to be on standby till we get back to the regular session, I believe, at this point. [3:12:03, 3:12:05]: Okay. Gotta get a motion on that, please. [3:12:06, 3:12:12]: Yeah, so we're gonna move that we go into um executive session to discuss real estate matters. [3:12:12, 3:12:13]: Okay, so a second. [3:12:15, 3:12:18]: Uh Mr. Thomas seconds that okay, all in favor, please indicate. [3:12:20, 3:12:21]: Um [3:12:22, 3:12:25]: I agree, but are we not discussing personnel matters? [3:12:26, 3:12:32]: That's not that's we weren't going to discuss it. That was not part of uh the executive session for this evening. [3:12:33, 3:12:34]: Okay. [3:12:34, 3:12:35]: All right. [3:12:35, 3:12:45]: And so uh uh all in favor, uh make sure I got that right. All we got a consensus here, I think, uh that aspect. And um [3:12:45, 3:12:50]: What happened okay. Well, I don't even see um [3:12:51, 3:12:54]: Councilwoman Barb uh not Barber, but uh Dan. [3:12:55, 3:12:57]: Is she not in the meeting? [3:12:57, 3:13:04]: Anyway, all right. We got it we got a consensus. We're going with the exec session. Miss Holiday, you'll be able to give us a send everybody a link before the Zeckly session, please. [3:13:06, 3:13:07]: We'll do. [3:13:07, 3:13:11]: Thank you very much. Appreciate it. I'll see you all within ten minutes. So hopefully we'll get it done ten minutes here. Thank you. [3:13:24, 3:13:25]: Okay. [3:13:29, 3:13:31]: Try to get this together here. [3:15:52, 3:15:56]: All right. Uh we have uh we actually have our quorum right now. We got uh [3:15:57, 3:16:08]: And Miss Barber, Alexander, myself, and Thomas. Um, okay, so uh we're gonna get start back started. Uh we may not have our attorneys, they [3:16:08, 3:16:16]: They had some other tasking, so they may not pop up back in. Um, so anyway, we're gonna move on with this and um [3:16:17, 3:16:18]: So we'll talk about old business. [3:16:19, 3:16:39]: And uh old business is council consideration to approve the test order number 21 with TSW Incorporated, City of Stockbridge Parks Master Plan in amount of$385,400. Uh funding sources spLOS. And uh this will be conducted or given by Mr. Aaron and Heather Heather Hubble. Please. [3:16:39, 3:16:39]: Please. [3:16:40, 3:16:46]: Thank you, Mr. Mayor and Council. Uh several months ago during a council meeting, uh staff presented a [3:16:47, 3:16:52]: A task order from TSW to develop a parts master plan and [3:16:52, 3:16:55]: Council wanted some other items addressed in that. [3:16:55, 3:16:57]: Master plan so [3:16:57, 3:17:06]: TSW has gone back and made some revisions to the plan, to the task order. Okay, Mr. Aaron, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Please forgive me. I forgot. [3:17:06, 3:17:07]: [11827.4, 11830.6]: I need a motion to enter to end the second session. I'm sorry. [3:17:11, 3:17:13]: Is there a second? [3:17:15, 3:17:17]: Miss Barber Seconds that all in favor, please indicate. [3:17:18, 3:17:26]: Okay, I need a motion to reconvene our our our council work session. So so moved. Ms. Gantt, I'll give a second. [3:17:27, 3:17:29]: Ms. Barber seconds that all in favor, please indicate. [3:17:30, 3:17:50]: Hi. Thank you. And we have nothing to report from the executive session at this time. Now, Mr. Aaron, I'm sorry about that. Go ahead, please. Yes, sir. Uh TSW has gone back and addressed the items that came up during the previous presentation. So I'll let Mr. Brian Baze present that along with Heather Hubb Hubble. [3:17:51, 3:17:52]: I thank you. [3:17:55, 3:17:57]: Thank you. Good evening, Mayor and Council. [3:17:57, 3:17:59]: Um [3:18:00, 3:18:13]: Uh I don't remember exactly when. Uh I don't remember exactly when we last talked about this, but just quick, quick uh background. Uh we originally brought a task order that was just focused on a few small. [3:18:13, 3:18:21]: Selected design projects within uh the three parks: Clark Park, Remote Park, and Gardner Park. [3:18:21, 3:18:24]: Um and during that discussion. [3:18:25, 3:18:37]: Uh I think I think the group kind of agreed that there needed to be a little bit broader look at some of the issues uh with regard to uh park programming, uh trail access and connectivity. [3:18:38, 3:18:40]: uh and potential um [3:18:41, 3:18:44]: Opportunities for new parks and a park system plan. [3:18:45, 3:18:48]: Which is a much more comprehensive look. [3:18:48, 3:18:57]: at your park system with public input and uh guided by uh park uh system plan steering committee so [3:18:58, 3:19:03]: Um and I think one of the kind of key things, uh one of the key takeaways from that. [3:19:03, 3:19:05]: As well was that uh [3:19:06, 3:19:15]: Everybody still wanted the the priorities uh or uh they wanted to acknowledge the priorities uh of the outcome of that system plan needed. [3:19:16, 3:19:24]: To to focus on specifically Memorial Park because there's some kind of significant issues there uh with regard to access through. [3:19:25, 3:19:26]: Anybody so [3:19:27, 3:19:38]: Uh we and I I I think it's a great idea. So we went back and uh took another pass at our task order to uh both include the park system plan. [3:19:38, 3:19:47]: Uh, information in there and everything else we thought we needed to get you uh through the park system plan and into. [3:19:48, 3:19:58]: uh or or to a point in design of those three parks like we originally had talked about where uh this group or the steering committee could assess [3:19:58, 3:20:10]: the plans, the cost of the plans and make good decisions about which pieces to move forward with and you know which pieces to to maybe save for later down the road. So [3:20:10, 3:20:14]: The task order that uh we have in front of you is a three part task order. [3:20:15, 3:20:32]: Uh the first part uh really focuses on providing uh getting topographic and uh land surveys for Mr. Bays, excuse me for a second. Is that something you're gonna show on your screen, sir? Oh yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah, we we don't see it on your screen, sir. Uh let me s let me see here. [3:20:37, 3:20:39]: Let me zoom in too. [3:20:40, 3:20:41]: There we go. [3:20:46, 3:20:51]: We've been showing a lot of pretty documents on the screen, but this is not one of'em. A lot of a lot of words here. [3:20:52, 3:20:52]: Um [3:20:53, 3:20:56]: Okay, so let me let me just start from the top. [3:20:56, 3:21:16]: Uh so so to get this work done, we have a a team of a few different consultants. Uh of course, TSW leaded our planning and landscape architecture group. Architecture will have a role in assessing uh some of the existing structures uh and also helping with any programming of future programming needs. [3:21:16, 3:21:18]: Needs of future structures. [3:21:19, 3:21:35]: Um we are uh bringing a civil engineer uh to help with the planning work that we've worked with on this type of project uh a number of times, Park Master Planning, uh Volkert Engineering. Uh they're actually here in uh downtown Atlanta. [3:21:35, 3:21:36]: K D E [3:21:36, 3:21:45]: uh is a a company that does cost estimating. They did cost estimating on the amphitheater. They're working with uh Heather as well. [3:21:45, 3:21:49]: on the art center and other various projects in town. So they're very familiar with [3:21:50, 3:21:56]: Um uh the lay of the land from uh a construction cost standpoint in Stockbridge. [3:21:56, 3:21:59]: And then we've also included a company called RMPK funding. [3:22:00, 3:22:00]: Uh [3:22:01, 3:22:13]: uh on the team that uh can look at the proposed improvements and come up with a grant funding strategy uh for the for the park system plan. [3:22:13, 3:22:26]: That uh you know you can stack with some other funding that you might already have. Uh so a lot of times the grants require matching. Uh, you know, for instance, you might be able to use some SPLOSS funds to cover the matching and actually leverage that to [3:22:26, 3:22:30]: To use to have more funding to build a park uh [3:22:30, 3:22:32]: Park element. So [3:22:33, 3:22:33]: Um [3:22:35, 3:22:50]: So that's kind of how the team is stacking up right now. And as I mentioned, it's a three-part uh proposal. The first part really deals with uh getting topographic and site surveys for the three existing parks. [3:22:50, 3:22:53]: Uh Garner Park, uh Memorial Park and Clark. [3:22:53, 3:22:57]: And um and then also [3:22:58, 3:23:08]: Uh doing some as built drawings for some of the existing buildings and building assessments for some of the existing uh structures uh that we toured with uh. [3:23:08, 3:23:11]: With the public works uh folks uh [3:23:11, 3:23:15]: It's been a few months back now, but uh in and [3:23:15, 3:23:16]: And looked at those. So [3:23:17, 3:23:18]: Uh that's part A. [3:23:19, 3:23:27]: And I'm gonna just flip to the back. There's actually the I don't know if they put this in your packet, but there's actually a some cost summary at the back end. [3:23:28, 3:23:29]: of this task proposal. [3:23:30, 3:23:31]: Um [3:23:31, 3:23:32]: Uh [3:23:32, 3:23:38]: And it has a breakdown of the cost of each of these uh parts separately. [3:23:39, 3:23:39]: So [3:23:40, 3:23:42]: Part B is actually the park system plan. [3:23:43, 3:23:46]: Uh that's where we go out and assess all the parks. Uh [3:23:46, 3:23:51]: Uh we uh put together a public engagement strategy. [3:23:51, 3:23:55]: Uh uh, we look at opportunities, we do a lot of groundwork. Uh [3:23:56, 3:23:59]: Uh you know, just looking at the parks. Um [3:24:00, 3:24:02]: And um [3:24:02, 3:24:06]: And then uh we combine our findings with [3:24:06, 3:24:08]: The public engagement strategy. [3:24:09, 3:24:24]: to essentially generate a list of needs based on public input and also based on guidance from staff and uh the steering committee. And the steering committee, uh, you know, once we get into this, uh, one of the first things we're gonna do is obviously meet with [3:24:25, 3:24:33]: uh meet with the city and uh decide who needs to be on the steering committee. So they so so we have a group that's kind of helping us. [3:24:33, 3:24:36]: uh guide things along the way. There are a lot of different ways you can do that. [3:24:37, 3:24:42]: Um and we can talk about that more, I guess, uh once we get the the process started. [3:24:44, 3:24:47]: Um we talking about base mapping. [3:24:47, 3:24:52]: Uh, I'm not gonna flip through this uh in an extreme amount of detail. [3:24:52, 3:24:53]: Um [3:24:54, 3:25:04]: But I am gonna kind of fast forward to a piece of this. Uh so so you know, we'll talk to the public, we'll get input, we'll bring ideas to the public, uh [3:25:05, 3:25:16]: uh and get feedback on some planning ideas. So we've already discussed some ideas in the previous meeting, uh, you know, about potential new entrances, about location for access. [3:25:16, 3:25:20]: For new trails, we'll do a level of service analysis. [3:25:21, 3:25:22]: Uh for the parks. [3:25:22, 3:25:24]: Uh that uh [3:25:24, 3:25:29]: that actually compares what people has have expressed or what the community has expressed. [3:25:30, 3:25:35]: as needs uh and compare them to what you actually have in your park so we could see [3:25:35, 3:25:36]: Where there are deficits. [3:25:38, 3:25:40]: And then we'll actually um [3:25:41, 3:25:43]: Prepare park master plans for [3:25:43, 3:25:47]: Uh definitely each of the three parks we already know those are focus areas. [3:25:48, 3:25:57]: Uh we will uh study any trail connections, uh make recommendations for trail connectivity or extensions of existing trails. [3:25:57, 3:26:01]: That need to happen and then also um [3:26:01, 3:26:14]: Uh depending on what what we find in our level of service analysis, make recommendations for new parks if we feel like there uh is a deficit of parks or there are areas of the community that are underserved. [3:26:15, 3:26:34]: Um, it's a very comprehensive look. We're not just gonna look at your city parks, we're gonna look at just open space that's available for people to use. Uh it can be private open space, uh, it can be open space associated with schools, maybe athletic facilities. It really is uh a [3:26:34, 3:26:36]: Comprehensive look at [3:26:36, 3:26:49]: access to recreation uh and parks uh uh land in your community to make sure that that everybody has uh an equal or equitable level of service. [3:26:51, 3:26:56]: Um and then I guess the last piece, you know, once we go through the process, everybody agrees. Uh [3:26:56, 3:27:00]: on the the plans and the programming for the plans. [3:27:00, 3:27:20]: Is identifying priorities and identifying funding opportunities. I already talked a little bit about RPK funding and how they're gonna help us with that. I think once you know we have a list of you know we've got a 10-year uh horizon here that we're looking at and we can prioritize the entire plan. [3:27:20, 3:27:20]: And [3:27:20, 3:27:24]: In ten years we can prioritize whatever. [3:27:24, 3:27:25]: Uh [3:27:25, 3:27:35]: I guess whichever parts of the plan you want to focus on in ten years. And then RP R and PK will take those and put together a comprehensive funding plan to help you. [3:27:35, 3:27:38]: uh have a roadmap for um [3:27:38, 3:27:40]: pursuing grant opportunities for that. [3:27:42, 3:27:46]: Um and I I'll be glad to share an example of that. Uh if if anybody [3:27:46, 3:27:51]: Like to see that we've worked on that capacity for a number of years. So [3:27:52, 3:27:55]: So that's part B. That's the park system plan. [3:27:55, 3:28:05]: Um and you know, it's a complicated process. It takes a few months to get through, but it should yield a really detailed kind of roadmap of how [3:28:05, 3:28:06]: Uh [3:28:06, 3:28:12]: You know, we realize the park system that Stockbridge, uh both both the city and [3:28:12, 3:28:17]: um staff and the c citizens uh need and want for their community. [3:28:18, 3:28:19]: So the third part. [3:28:20, 3:28:26]: of this uh really uh is a is a adaptation of the original scope that we talked about. [3:28:27, 3:28:31]: Uh before we decided to add the park system plan and that is [3:28:31, 3:28:32]: Um [3:28:32, 3:28:39]: Schematic designs for the priority area park plans. And and what we're saying the priority areas are. [3:28:39, 3:28:42]: Ар Клак, Меморіал Ангарна паркс ен. [3:28:43, 3:28:44]: Uh [3:28:45, 3:28:49]: We will you guys have seen a ton of schematic designs. We're gonna take the site plans. [3:28:49, 3:29:00]: to a point where you know you can see what the parks would look like if we apply the programming, hardscape, shelters, uh other park elements, open space. [3:29:00, 3:29:02]: parking access roadways [3:29:02, 3:29:08]: trail heads, trail locations, that type of stuff within the park. And then we're gonna put um [3:29:09, 3:29:11]: We're gonna put real numbers with those. [3:29:11, 3:29:22]: Uh I think for schematic design, um maybe I I have the uh pricing plan listed as an option and I don't uh I'll have to look at the um [3:29:23, 3:29:28]: I'll have to look at at whether or not that's included in the cost, but we do definitely have budgetary pricing. [3:29:28, 3:29:33]: with the master plan, uh the the comprehensive master plan portion of it. [3:29:33, 3:29:41]: Um, so that it will help guide you guys uh or this group and making decisions, good financial decisions about. [3:29:41, 3:29:43]: uh park improvements um [3:29:46, 3:29:55]: I do have task three as an optional cost estimate and that should say task four uh for perspective running. So when we get there, if the if you want. [3:29:55, 3:29:57]: You know, if you want more kind of developed [3:29:58, 3:30:03]: uh imagery, uh we can do that and we can also um do a deep dive into costs. [3:30:04, 3:30:05]: costing if we want. [3:30:06, 3:30:12]: So a lot of a lot of talk about scheduling on these projects. Uh I did a quick uh breakdown of of what the schedule looks like. [3:30:12, 3:30:14]: The survey takes about six weeks. [3:30:15, 3:30:16]: Uh on a good day right now. [3:30:17, 3:30:23]: Uh all the surveyors are backed up. I think that uh last I checked with a survey and I talked with them probably every couple of weeks. [3:30:24, 3:30:27]: uh about about project work um [3:30:27, 3:30:30]: I think he said he's about six to eight weeks out. [3:30:30, 3:30:39]: Um that could run that so the survey work could run concurrent with uh the kickoff of part B. [3:30:39, 3:30:52]: Which is the park system plan. So while he's gathering his base mapping, we can do our field work and we can assess the buildings and do all the other things we need to do so that task A and B kind of come together. [3:30:53, 3:30:59]: down here um in task uh two, three, and four when we actually need that survey data. [3:31:00, 3:31:02]: Uh and you can see that uh [3:31:02, 3:31:05]: You know, if you look at the the breakdown of this. [3:31:05, 3:31:11]: Um the timing on this. It's it's not something that's gonna happen in a couple weeks. You know, perk system plan. [3:31:12, 3:31:14]: А і за процес да [3:31:14, 3:31:15]: Um [3:31:15, 3:31:25]: is somewhat cyclical. We go to the public, we get input, we go back, we do work, we come back to the public for input and to the steering committee for input. And we kind of [3:31:26, 3:31:30]: uh refine our ideas as we get that input. So [3:31:30, 3:31:35]: You know, all in, uh it's probably about six to nine months for the park system plan. [3:31:36, 3:31:40]: Uh, to get to the point where we can do schematic designs. [3:31:40, 3:31:45]: And then the schematic designs take about eighteen to twenty four weeks. So it's probably [3:31:46, 3:31:52]: A year, uh a year and three months before we get to the end of schematic design. [3:31:52, 3:31:54]: Uh for those three parks. [3:31:56, 3:31:58]: In round numbers. And then here [3:31:59, 3:32:01]: Here's the way the cost breaks down. [3:32:01, 3:32:06]: Part A is fifty-eight thousand dollars. That's the surveying survey and building assessment. [3:32:06, 3:32:08]: The park system plan. [3:32:08, 3:32:14]: Uh it's one hundred and forty seven thousand dollars. Uh that's that's just for the um [3:32:14, 3:32:16]: Асесмент [3:32:17, 3:32:18]: uh public input. [3:32:18, 3:32:21]: Uh, the park master plans and then the funding priorities. [3:32:22, 3:32:26]: And then the schematic design piece is$180,000. [3:32:27, 3:32:28]: Uh and again, that's for three. [3:32:29, 3:32:33]: That's for three complete parks. I think before we were looking at just areas within the park. [3:32:34, 3:32:35]: Uh, but we've expanded that. [3:32:36, 3:32:40]: uh to to the complete park area based on [3:32:41, 3:32:44]: The feedback that we get from [3:32:44, 3:32:45]: Uh [3:32:46, 3:32:50]: from the prioritization uh after the park system plan. [3:32:51, 3:32:54]: And then uh the optional tasks I mentioned before. [3:32:55, 3:33:01]: Uh schematic design cost estimates twenty-six thousand dollars. That's for that's for ADE to cost. [3:33:01, 3:33:03]: All three of the full park. [3:33:03, 3:33:06]: uh plant schematic park designs. [3:33:06, 3:33:10]: Um and then if you want renderings with that, um [3:33:10, 3:33:13]: You know, there's what that's gonna cost, twelve thousand five hundred dollars. [3:33:13, 3:33:17]: Um andisha's uh remind me. [3:33:17, 3:33:18]: Um [3:33:18, 3:33:22]: Because for some reason I don't have this all totaled up because we weren't really sure. [3:33:23, 3:33:24]: Um [3:33:24, 3:33:32]: how how this would get kind of parsed out. Does the does the number that you um have on the [3:33:32, 3:33:36]: Uh tonight include both of these optional tasks or not? Do you remember? [3:33:36, 3:33:38]: I can add them up real quick to you. [3:33:40, 3:33:46]: What's in the l what's in the actual agenda says three hundred and eighty five thousand four hundred dollars is what it says. [3:33:46, 3:33:50]: Which is part A, B, and C. Okay. So if I'm [3:33:51, 3:33:51]: Pose one A. [3:33:53, 3:33:53]: Yes. [3:33:54, 3:33:56]: So does not include those optional tasks, but I think [3:33:57, 3:33:59]: I don't even honestly [3:33:59, 3:34:07]: I don't even know if we need to even think about these optional tasks until we get done with part C and we can even understand. [3:34:08, 3:34:11]: the totality of what we're talking about, um [3:34:11, 3:34:17]: Because we don't really know what those the system plan is gonna yield at this point, because there's a lot of work to be done. [3:34:17, 3:34:18]: So [3:34:18, 3:34:25]: I kinda rushed I kind of rushed through that a little bit, um, but I I did want to open it up for questions now. [3:34:26, 3:34:32]: Well I appreciate your comprehensive briefing there, sir. Sure. Okay, so uh Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [3:34:33, 3:34:35]: Wanted to ask if you could please forward [3:34:36, 3:34:38]: that presentation to the mayor and council. [3:34:39, 3:34:40]: Absolutely, yeah. [3:34:40, 3:34:42]: Thank you. And my second question is. [3:34:42, 3:34:43]: We can [3:34:44, 3:34:45]: I think we still have a [3:34:46, 3:34:48]: Agreement with Paz Foundation. [3:34:48, 3:34:51]: Um that we entered into last year. [3:34:51, 3:34:55]: Have you all worked with Path Foundation at all? [3:34:56, 3:35:04]: We have, yes. Um uh we did some belt line work with them and I mean they do a lot of work all over town, so [3:35:04, 3:35:10]: Uh pretty much any any trail that that we're involved in, they're involved in some manner. [3:35:10, 3:35:16]: I've also done some work up in Gwinnett County and then we uh and uh over at the Gwinnette Place Mall. [3:35:16, 3:35:22]: Uh and we have an on-call contract with Gwennick County, so we've worked with them in that capacity as well. [3:35:23, 3:35:24]: Okay. Um [3:35:25, 3:35:26]: So [3:35:28, 3:35:31]: Would there be an issue to substitute um [3:35:32, 3:35:41]: I guess the entity that you're using for grant opportunities, is it the RB R R and P K? [3:35:41, 3:35:45]: Yes, are you able to substitute them with Pat Foundation? [3:35:45, 3:35:51]: Um, well the Path Foundation is really specifically focused on trail uh development and maintenance. [3:35:52, 3:35:55]: Okay. RPK will look at [3:35:56, 3:36:00]: All the elements of the park, uh including storm water. [3:36:00, 3:36:02]: uh stuff. [3:36:02, 3:36:07]: And so they have a much more kind a much broader kind of view of the grant possibilities. [3:36:07, 3:36:11]: I would think Path would be a stakeholder potentially for sure. [3:36:11, 3:36:18]: And this discussion because of their um because they develop uh paths or they develop trails. [3:36:18, 3:36:18]: Yeah. [3:36:19, 3:36:20]: Okay, thank you. [3:36:22, 3:36:38]: Yeah, questions for Mr. Bays. Mayor Mayor Pro Tem. Okay, I'm sorry. Uh let Councilman Thomas go. Council Thomas, go ahead, sir. Councilman Thomas. Oh, okay. Uh thank you. Um Mr. Bays, I appreciate the the presentation. I I read through it a couple of times. [3:36:38, 3:36:41]: And as I mentioned um in our last meeting. [3:36:42, 3:36:45]: I have a great concern for Memorial Park because I think [3:36:46, 3:36:51]: Memori out of out of the three park, I think memorial is going to be [3:36:51, 3:36:56]: Uh that part with the highest level of um difficulties. [3:36:57, 3:36:58]: And I sort of marked up. [3:36:59, 3:37:06]: uh the steering committees, uh the input from the community. And I'm real concerned and want to make sure that [3:37:07, 3:37:09]: Um that that is thorough. [3:37:09, 3:37:10]: As far as um [3:37:11, 3:37:15]: You know, actually getting that input uh from [3:37:15, 3:37:19]: The community that surrounds um Memorial Park. [3:37:19, 3:37:21]: And and you know [3:37:21, 3:37:24]: And I know you have it in this in the in the document, but [3:37:25, 3:37:27]: My concern for memory is the [3:37:28, 3:37:31]: parking and the access in. [3:37:31, 3:37:45]: Yeah. As I stated earlier, I I think Momurray is going to be that part with the highest degree of difficulty to to to accomplish. So I won't sort of bog you down with this now, but. [3:37:45, 3:37:46]: Um [3:37:47, 3:37:48]: Depart. [3:37:49, 3:37:51]: А пар Б. [3:37:51, 3:37:54]: Mm-hmm. The park system plan [3:37:54, 3:37:58]: Um, and I know you talked about identifying and documenting [3:37:58, 3:38:02]: Cedar leader city leadership goals and the [3:38:02, 3:38:04]: uh public engagement strategy. [3:38:05, 3:38:09]: So I just want to make sure and I'd like to be a part of that. [3:38:09, 3:38:14]: Uh if if not for all of the park, but uh for for for sure a memorial. [3:38:15, 3:38:26]: Uh because uh there are some some great needs there. It's a beautiful park, and everyone on this council know that uh it lacks uh uh accessibility and parking. [3:38:27, 3:38:41]: And so uh I'm looking forward to go through this process. I heard you mention the timelines and and I understand that and and even the financing, but I just wanted sort of just reiterate those because those are my concerns. [3:38:41, 3:39:01]: uh for memorial park. And so when we get to that point, uh and Mr. Arid knows as he and I have talked over years about uh you know these these very same issues. So I I'm I'm I'm um I'm excited about uh you know we moving forward with this and I think the citizens in that area [3:39:01, 3:39:07]: will be as well. So uh I will be patient enough to wait till we sort of get to that point. [3:39:07, 3:39:10]: But I look forward to uh engaging. [3:39:10, 3:39:16]: along with uh community folks um in all of the park but specifically memorial park. [3:39:18, 3:39:22]: And let me just add, and and it's not in this scope. [3:39:23, 3:39:32]: uh but during the my engagement with community folks, uh that is a concern for a park um [3:39:33, 3:39:44]: on the south side of the city. Again, it's not in this scope. And I know when we start talking about these things, I know you know we have to identify funding sources. [3:39:44, 3:39:54]: But I just want to sort of put that on everyone's radar that we have to at some point in time look at how can we provide uh some type of uh park. [3:39:55, 3:39:58]: uh on the south side uh of the city [3:39:58, 3:40:12]: And so Mayor, I'll yield back for now with that, but I look forward and how we go forward. And I hope that there is some movement ongoingly with this project. [3:40:14, 3:40:16]: No problem, sir. Thank you. Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. [3:40:16, 3:40:17]: Yeah, thank you. Um [3:40:18, 3:40:32]: I appreciate the thorough assessment and um you know you guys do fine work and I expect for you to uh be able to come up with something just bold for Memorial Park for the new entrance that we're looking for. [3:40:33, 3:40:35]: Uh that will add uh the connectivity. [3:40:36, 3:40:40]: Thank the thank the Lord. We got the T Sploss Pass. [3:40:40, 3:40:43]: And Rock Quarry Road is gonna have a ten foot path. [3:40:43, 3:40:45]: And a major road running right down through there. [3:40:46, 3:40:48]: Our objective is to connect to it. [3:40:48, 3:40:51]: That's the task right there is to connect to it. [3:40:51, 3:40:53]: And the connectivity. [3:40:53, 3:40:56]: Uh working with the PAF Foundation through this. [3:40:56, 3:40:59]: It's a perfect synergy because we got the two top notch. [3:41:00, 3:41:02]: Entities working on this plan for us. [3:41:03, 3:41:04]: When the funding just [3:41:04, 3:41:06]: hit us all at one time. So [3:41:06, 3:41:08]: We certainly do appreciate that. [3:41:09, 3:41:14]: And I think that was a component of this that was going to be forward thinking. Is that not? [3:41:15, 3:41:20]: Is that not correct in terms of possibly identifying uh other park future park areas? [3:41:20, 3:41:26]: Well yeah, I I was gonna respond to that. Um, so as part of the system plan portion. [3:41:27, 3:41:47]: Yes. Uh if there's a need for for more parkland, you know, there's a couple ways we'll identify it. We're gonna do an we'll do just an analysis like uh based on based on um some kind of standards, but I mean also based on community input. So kind of our final assessment is gonna be the intersection. [3:41:47, 3:41:56]: of both of those things, um, including input from the steering committee. So I'm already hearing it now. So I'm guessing that one of the [3:41:56, 3:42:00]: I'm guessing that probably one of the outcomes of the study. [3:42:00, 3:42:02]: Will be [3:42:02, 3:42:04]: You know, potentially a location for a new park. [3:42:05, 3:42:09]: And that will be prior, you know, the design or the further. [3:42:10, 3:42:15]: uh development of that will will be in one of the priorities uh somewhere. So [3:42:15, 3:42:17]: Yeah, it's definitely part of part B for sure. [3:42:18, 3:42:24]: And and and then now I want to take that next level. And the mayor's talked about it and we talked about it. [3:42:25, 3:42:26]: As part of the connectivity [3:42:27, 3:42:28]: In the parts. [3:42:28, 3:42:29]: In the trail system. [3:42:30, 3:42:33]: And now we're engaged with Norfolk Southern. We need a tunnel. [3:42:34, 3:42:38]: Up under uh the Norfolk Southern line connecting [3:42:38, 3:42:39]: Clark Park. [3:42:40, 3:42:41]: to Gardner Park. [3:42:42, 3:42:46]: Uh in that area and now's the time because we got Norfolk Southern's ear. [3:42:47, 3:42:47]: To kind of [3:42:48, 3:43:08]: Get some conversation going with you all in the Pair Foundation. You have been involved in these intricate processes, but that's the that's the one connection that would make pull everything together if you could connect Clark Park to Gardner Park via that tunnel. And I was over there just the other day. [3:43:08, 3:43:11]: Day there's a viaduct stormwater viaduct running through there. [3:43:12, 3:43:15]: under the tracks already. So there is some [3:43:15, 3:43:19]: Uh there there somebody did a storm water up underneath that area, so [3:43:19, 3:43:31]: they were uh conducive to debt at some point. So we just need to make sure that we get them at the table to be able to uh move this forward. But all of this is the connectivity. [3:43:31, 3:43:37]: to pull everything together that we're working for so somebody could come to downtown. [3:43:37, 3:43:49]: park their car, their electric vehicle, charge it, get on the trail and fru move throughout the city without ever uh getting on getting back in the vehicle again. [3:43:49, 3:43:54]: Those are the high level things that we're talking about. And I know that you guys will hit a home run on that. [3:43:58, 3:44:00]: Outstanding concept. [3:44:01, 3:44:06]: Need look need look at doing that. Exactly right. Any other comments from Mr. Bays? [3:44:08, 3:44:20]: All right, so on this motion, I I I guess we need a motion here to accept this proposal um for him to go forward with this. Is there a mo so move? So move. Okay, is there a second? [3:44:21, 3:44:25]: Miss Barber second Miss Barber saw her hand for a second. Any further discussion? [3:44:26, 3:44:27]: All in favor, please indicate. [3:44:28, 3:44:28]: Uh [3:44:28, 3:44:37]: Okay. All right. Seems like that's a unanimous decision. I appreciate it. Thank you, Mr. Bays. We appreciate your presentation. Thank you very much. Thank you, everybody. I appreciate it. [3:44:38, 3:44:39]: Okay. [3:44:39, 3:44:48]: We now go into our public hearing. This is a budget hearing for our second reading. Um this is proposed FY 2022 operating budget. Mr. Wiggins, please. [3:44:54, 3:44:58]: Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Council. I'm gonna share my screen real quick. [3:44:58, 3:44:59]: Okay. [3:45:08, 3:45:09]: Did everybody see that? [3:45:09, 3:45:10]: Oh, we can't, sir. [3:45:11, 3:45:18]: Make make a little lar there okay, that's that's probably good. That's good. Okay. Let's see how that [3:45:20, 3:45:30]: All right, this is a um City of Stockbridge proposed FY 2022 budget hearing, second reading for November 30th, 2022. [3:45:34, 3:45:49]: The budget has um in the general fund eighteen million two hundred and eighty one thousand three level. One one second, John. Could you make it just a little smaller? Because it's really off the screen now too. It's a little way too big. This if you make a little smaller, maybe just a little bit. [3:45:51, 3:45:55]: That's that's that's better. That's better. Okay, sorry about that. [3:45:57, 3:46:16]: Enterprise fund is at twenty-four million nine hundred eleven thousand seven hundred eighty-five dollars and thirty-nine cents. The total um for the FY22 budget is forty-three million one hundred and ninety-three thousand ninety-six dollars and fifty-nine cents. [3:46:18, 3:46:18]: Okay. [3:46:19, 3:46:25]: Changes from the first um budget reading on November eighth, twenty twenty one. [3:46:26, 3:46:27]: We have [3:46:28, 3:46:29]: General Fawn. [3:46:29, 3:46:36]: Changed from 17.4 million to 18.2 million. That was an eight hundred some thousand dollar increase. [3:46:37, 3:46:39]: Uh that was um [3:46:40, 3:46:41]: We change uh [3:46:42, 3:46:45]: New police department changed from two point six million. [3:46:46, 3:46:47]: So three point three million. [3:46:47, 3:46:50]: increased by seven hundred some thousand. [3:46:50, 3:46:53]: Public works department increased about a hundred thousand. [3:46:53, 3:46:55]: For the North Henry beautification project. [3:46:57, 3:47:01]: Enterprise funds state remained the same at twenty-four point nine million. [3:47:02, 3:47:08]: And this budget also includes all sixty-three new positions descriptions. [3:47:08, 3:47:09]: And organization chart. [3:47:11, 3:47:13]: Fifty eight police positions. [3:47:13, 3:47:15]: Three community development. [3:47:16, 3:47:19]: positions, one municipal court position and one HR position. [3:47:21, 3:47:21]: And that [3:47:23, 3:47:28]: includes a small summary of what's in the budget for the second reading. [3:47:30, 3:47:37]: So any in that note accounts or any questions or clarification from you at all in reference to this. Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [3:47:38, 3:47:49]: So I wanted to know because I actually emailed a few suggestions and forgive me, I'm still learning this process. [3:47:50, 3:47:53]: Providing my feedback on things that I'd like to see. [3:47:54, 3:47:55]: Um [3:47:55, 3:47:57]: How do I go about doing that? Because um [3:47:58, 3:48:00]: I believe the last reading. [3:48:00, 3:48:05]: uh councilman thomas actually read off his suggestions for the record. [3:48:05, 3:48:06]: Should I do the same? [3:48:07, 3:48:08]: Yeah, sure, sure. Go ahead. [3:48:09, 3:48:10]: Yeah, yes, you can. [3:48:12, 3:48:32]: Okay, um and a few of these I already emailed to the mayor and council. Um one is for the org chart. I know that there is a grants um specialist position of some sort, but it's reporting to the finance or treasurer. I'd like to move that position. [3:48:32, 3:48:35]: to report under the city manager. [3:48:36, 3:48:38]: Also, I wanted to add [3:48:38, 3:48:42]: A new grants position under police services. [3:48:44, 3:48:48]: Um you're trying to form two positions here. I mean you're trying to [3:48:49, 3:48:55]: Yes, one reporting to the city manager and one reporting to police services. [3:48:56, 3:49:00]: And you can remove the grants position under the treasurer. [3:49:02, 3:49:04]: Well when you when you um [3:49:05, 3:49:07]: When you're looking for a grants writer. [3:49:07, 3:49:08]: You know. [3:49:08, 3:49:13]: Uh I I think it should be more of a grants manager or grants accountant. [3:49:14, 3:49:15]: Because it's gonna be a lot of accounting. [3:49:16, 3:49:20]: That's gonna have to go along with just uh with the grants. [3:49:20, 3:49:22]: You know, writing grants you [3:49:22, 3:49:26]: Somebody's gonna have to administer the grant and somebody's gonna have to account for the grant. [3:49:27, 3:49:31]: And that means when I mean accounting, you're gonna have to deal with the auditors. [3:49:32, 3:49:35]: Because you're gonna get audited for doing doing the grant. [3:49:35, 3:49:36]: You know, putting up the [3:49:37, 3:49:41]: The city manager m typically city manager doesn't really have [3:49:41, 3:49:43]: That particular position up on the [3:49:44, 3:49:47]: That department uses in um [3:49:48, 3:49:56]: It has its own grants, administration department, or it stays within the administration or finance. But [3:49:58, 3:50:06]: This is this is this is this is a um you know this is for the council. It's just my perspective on that particular position. [3:50:09, 3:50:09]: Well okay. What [3:50:10, 3:50:20]: I would think that the that uh if the grant writer is initially with the the treasurer, I don't see why it wouldn't need to move. We just need to be f maybe fulfill the requirement. [3:50:21, 3:50:27]: But I kinda wonder whether or not whether you move it or not, why would you need two? Because I think that individual will be fully occupied. [3:50:28, 3:50:38]: working for general grant information across the board under the treasure as well as for the police department. I I don't understand why we would need uh two individuals doing that across the board, tell you truth. [3:50:38, 3:50:43]: Well, because the the city has several, well, a lot of capital projects. [3:50:44, 3:50:45]: That we need [3:50:45, 3:50:48]: Individuals specifically dedicated [3:50:49, 3:50:50]: Four [3:50:50, 3:50:58]: City projects, and then an individual specifically dedicated for police service projects. [3:50:59, 3:51:11]: That was my thought process. Yeah. Make sure that we are capitalizing on these grant opportunities. Um, and I believe having one person designated to do that. [3:51:11, 3:51:14]: it won't be enough. It will be overwhelming. [3:51:14, 3:51:15]: For one person. [3:51:16, 3:51:18]: to be at the table. [3:51:19, 3:51:22]: trying to s look at all these opportun identify all these opportunities. [3:51:23, 3:51:25]: We really need to. [3:51:25, 3:51:29]: right now with the way um funding is coming from the federal and state level. [3:51:30, 3:51:37]: need to make sure that we're at the table and we're capitalizing on these opportunities. Again, these are just my suggestions. [3:51:38, 3:51:39]: That was number one. [3:51:40, 3:51:41]: Um number two. [3:51:41, 3:51:42]: Suggestion. [3:51:43, 3:51:56]: Um, I wanted to see us and I did consult with a couple of police departments. The municipal court or administration of courts are usually under police services. [3:51:56, 3:52:01]: I like to see us move that on the org chart under police services if we can. [3:52:03, 3:52:11]: What was that again? The um you said the municipal municipal court administration. Court administration. Yes. Mayor? Yes, ma'am. [3:52:12, 3:52:17]: Can I I have to object? Okay, let her go. I'm sorry. She wasn't finished. I'll wait. [3:52:18, 3:52:20]: Go ahead, uh Miss Barber. [3:52:21, 3:52:24]: Everyone except for the judge. [3:52:24, 3:52:29]: All the other employees of the courts would report to police services. [3:52:31, 3:52:32]: That's the second suggestion. [3:52:33, 3:52:34]: The third suggestion. [3:52:34, 3:52:36]: Із то мove конфорсне. [3:52:36, 3:52:38]: Under police services as well. [3:52:42, 3:52:49]: My fourth suggestion is to reduce and I'm trying to see for public works technicians. [3:52:49, 3:52:52]: Um Mr. Wiggins, was it eight? [3:52:53, 3:52:55]: Positions or is it eleven? [3:52:56, 3:53:01]: For public works. Yes. Public works already already had eight positions. [3:53:02, 3:53:03]: Um that [3:53:04, 3:53:06]: I think Dish has been trying to feel [3:53:06, 3:53:11]: um that they feel and then they might drop out, somebody might quit. [3:53:11, 3:53:12]: Um [3:53:12, 3:53:14]: These is our eight positions. [3:53:15, 3:53:18]: Okay, so it is already been in the been that's been in the budget. [3:53:18, 3:53:20]: Okay, I'd like to reduce that from eight to two. [3:53:21, 3:53:21]: Mm-hmm. [3:53:22, 3:53:22]: No. [3:53:22, 3:53:24]: Yes. Um [3:53:25, 3:53:26]: Okay. And number five. [3:53:28, 3:53:35]: Um the amphitheater operations, when I looked at the um budget. [3:53:36, 3:53:38]: Several of the line items are blank. [3:53:39, 3:53:40]: Such as lighting. [3:53:41, 3:53:43]: So nothing is no projected. [3:53:43, 3:53:47]: cost or expense is there. So I'd like to see all of [3:53:47, 3:53:51]: Um some type of projection in each of those line items. [3:53:52, 3:53:53]: Um [3:53:53, 3:53:54]: We can we can do that. [3:53:55, 3:53:57]: Okay. And number six. [3:53:58, 3:54:10]: Um, can you tell me if there are line items for the renovations for Ted Strickland, Merlmanders, and down uh downstairs of City Hall? I wasn't able to find that. [3:54:12, 3:54:14]: Is that in the budget for 2022? [3:54:14, 3:54:16]: Renovation for downstairs city hall. [3:54:17, 3:54:18]: Yes. Now what [3:54:20, 3:54:22]: That that that no, that's not in the budget. [3:54:23, 3:54:24]: We didn't put the [3:54:24, 3:54:29]: That wasn't put in the budget because um it was voted out last time. [3:54:30, 3:54:33]: So then didn't know if that needed to go back in there. [3:54:33, 3:54:45]: Yes, I'd like to include um the renovations to downtown downstairs of city halls. The renovation to the Ted Strickland, is that included in the 2022 budget? [3:54:46, 3:54:48]: It's in the capital CIP. [3:54:48, 3:54:49]: Okay. [3:54:50, 3:54:54]: And the Merr Manders Center that's in the budget as well. [3:54:55, 3:54:55]: Yeah. [3:54:58, 3:54:59]: Mm-hmm. [3:54:59, 3:55:00]: Far as um [3:55:01, 3:55:03]: construction. I don't I don't know how much that would be. [3:55:05, 3:55:06]: Do not have a total cost of [3:55:07, 3:55:09]: How much the renovation [3:55:09, 3:55:11]: is gonna be to be put into the budget. [3:55:11, 3:55:19]: Okay, so Mr. Aaron and I believe um Mr Canuel was supposed to bring back a quote. So [3:55:20, 3:55:21]: Please follow up with them. [3:55:22, 3:55:26]: So that's the sixth item. The seventh is um [3:55:27, 3:55:35]: I wanted us to take a closer look at the salaries that was submitted for the municipal court judge and the solicitor. [3:55:36, 3:55:49]: Um, I believe the salary for 2022 that was submitted for the judge was$65,000 a year. And for the solicitor, it was for$55,000 or might have been$50,000. [3:55:50, 3:55:52]: Um. [3:55:52, 3:55:53]: I'm sorry. [3:55:53, 3:55:54]: No, you're correct. [3:55:54, 3:55:56]: Okay. However [3:55:56, 3:55:56]: Um [3:55:57, 3:56:03]: There won't be an increase to their workload until the police department is up and running in July. [3:56:05, 3:56:06]: So to pay them a or [3:56:07, 3:56:10]: To have in the budget for a the full salary. [3:56:10, 3:56:12]: I don't think that would be [3:56:12, 3:56:13]: Accurate. [3:56:13, 3:56:16]: I emailed um my calculations. [3:56:17, 3:56:18]: for the first half of the year. [3:56:19, 3:56:20]: If we can [3:56:21, 3:56:29]: Project what they've been making in 2021 for the first half and then the second half, then divide that by. [3:56:29, 3:56:33]: I don't know. Um, six, seven months. [3:56:33, 3:56:34]: Mm-hmm. [3:56:35, 3:56:45]: divide salary of sixty five thousand dollars by seven months and that should get you a cost that you can put in for the budget for those two positions. [3:56:45, 3:56:48]: Yeah, before the judge the judge had a set cost on [3:56:49, 3:56:54]: Whenever he went to trial, he just had a set cost of what he got paid. It it wasn't our actual salary. [3:56:55, 3:56:57]: It was just a set set cost, but [3:56:57, 3:56:59]: Issue of salary was trying to be implemented. [3:57:00, 3:57:05]: Right, and we shouldn't include the full salary because they won't be fully functional. [3:57:06, 3:57:08]: Until July when the [3:57:08, 3:57:12]: police department is rolled out. That's correct. That's my bottle. [3:57:14, 3:57:22]: Okay, and include that's for the municipal court judge and the solicitor and the deputy court clerk. So those three positions. [3:57:23, 3:57:26]: might want to give an average. Um number eight. [3:57:27, 3:57:29]: Wait, you know the deputy clerk. [3:57:30, 3:57:32]: It's basically already there, I think. [3:57:33, 3:57:35]: Their position is already already there. [3:57:37, 3:57:38]: Is it [3:57:40, 3:57:41]: No, I don't think it's I don't think [3:57:42, 3:57:42]: No. [3:57:43, 3:57:44]: But the applicator, yeah, because [3:57:46, 3:57:49]: Not clear. Not I can okay. I have to take a look at it. [3:57:49, 3:57:54]: Well looking at this the original budget that I have, it shows it's vacant, but okay. [3:57:54, 3:58:14]: Number eight, I wanted us to take a closer look, perhaps and look the personnel policy to state that staff members must be employed for one full year before they are eligible for cost of living increases, bonuses, and merit increases. In fact, I'd like for us to freeze bonuses for 2022. [3:58:17, 3:58:18]: Your number [3:58:19, 3:58:20]: No. [3:58:21, 3:58:24]: Oh, these are just questions that I had. [3:58:24, 3:58:26]: That's all. That's all I had. [3:58:28, 3:58:48]: Okay, then these are recommendations. So otherwise these are your recommendations. Obviously, before we make movement on any of this or come to some type of change in or anything, there's have to be some type of consensus across the board in reference to these recommendations andor something that makes good logical sense, I would imagine. [3:58:48, 3:58:49]: Yeah. [3:58:50, 3:58:50]: Yes, sir. [3:58:51, 3:58:52]: Okay. [3:58:52, 3:58:57]: So what I so m excuse, I'm sorry, Mayor. I think what what needs to happen is um [3:58:59, 3:59:03]: In the mayor's correct, all the recommendations need to be [3:59:03, 3:59:07]: Uh um decided on because we only have one more budget hearing. [3:59:08, 3:59:10]: to uh vote on the budget and [3:59:11, 3:59:13]: I'm gonna need a list of what [3:59:13, 3:59:14]: Everybody [3:59:15, 3:59:18]: has discussed and what everybody has has agreed on. [3:59:19, 3:59:22]: to uh move forward and putting everything in the budget. [3:59:23, 3:59:35]: And I would say that the justification of of why uh why this all should happen in this aspect, real justification of this and clever and to some discussion about this. Cause you're talking about some some uh [3:59:35, 3:59:37]: Some um big moves here. [3:59:37, 3:59:57]: You you know, you're talking about the police department, which the chief is right here. I mean, you ever d talk of him further about some of these things about code enforcement and and about uh the actual court uh courthouse itself, things of that nature, the court operations. He needs to buy in on that and find out what what is uh what his opinion thoughts are. I don't know and I don't know if they [3:59:57, 3:59:58]: George. [3:59:58, 4:00:05]: I did speak with the chief and I spoke with the community development director and they both seemed to be okay with it. [4:00:06, 4:00:07]: Chief trailer. [4:00:07, 4:00:14]: Is he all wrong? Yeah, he is, but wait, stand by a second. Stand by a second. But see, all these things, these recommendations in reference to [4:00:14, 4:00:34]: uh well the amphitheater and and uh and recommendations for what uh guess the some uh recommendations to renovate Ted Strickland the Merrill Manner's conference I believe uh took down there. Um and then you're talking about uh the salaries and now the salaries you know I I think it's probably a session discussion when you talk about [4:00:34, 4:00:44]: salaries for for uh employees in this aspect. I think that's probably something that probably needs to go exactly session before we we actually have open discussion with the public on this, I would think. [4:00:44, 4:00:48]: And I know our attorneys aren't with us right now, but that's what I kind of assume. [4:00:48, 4:00:50]: Yeah. Yes, ma'am. [4:00:50, 4:00:56]: I whenever you finish, I I just have a couple of statements about what we're doing right now for this budget. [4:00:56, 4:01:16]: Right, I got it. And then uh then the personnel policy issues as as well. Uh you have to have some real thought in that and and reference that. And I know Ms. Muela is not online right now and in this aspect as well. But um I mean this is some real thought that with uh and discussion that has to occur uh with the council across the board and with [4:01:16, 4:01:21]: the staff primary staff interviews that affects these the particular recommendations here that you're mentioning. [4:01:22, 4:01:26]: Um on that note, um the go ahead, Miss Gantt. [4:01:27, 4:01:29]: Thank you, Mayor. Um [4:01:29, 4:01:30]: I was [4:01:30, 4:01:35]: Again, I ask if everybody, Ms. uh Councilman Thomas, Councilman Barber. [4:01:36, 4:01:44]: Miffer, Tim, Alexander, any of us, if we have some changes or concerns, if we can all put them on email so we can really actually do the research on it. [4:01:45, 4:01:51]: Um, I am in total objection to the police department b the the court being [4:01:52, 4:01:56]: direct response to the police department, I believe that is a conflict of interest. [4:01:57, 4:02:17]: Um, as a previous solicitor for the city of Stockbridge and looking at just an example, the city of Duluth, the city of Suwannee, looking at their organizational charts, not one, the courts and the police are separate entities, and they're separate entities for a reason. Um, in fact, most courts. [4:02:17, 4:02:37]: administrations are under the judge, even the clerks that are although they're full-time, they are under the judge. Um and let's let me give an example. Even mayor and council, although we are part-time, we um you know have the directors and everyone to report to us. Another concern I have is um [4:02:37, 4:02:43]: um possible charter uh overlooking the charter by [4:02:43, 4:02:47]: Of course, if we ask a director or anyone [4:02:47, 4:02:54]: Whether or not they're okay with us doing specific things instead of going through the city manager. [4:02:54, 4:02:56]: Ri right now, which is you, Mayor. [4:02:56, 4:03:05]: Um, I don't think that it is appropriate for any council member to discuss or to um [4:03:05, 4:03:08]: go one on one with any employee. [4:03:09, 4:03:29]: Directors included, asking if this is okay if I change your your job description or add these things under there. I think there should be some type of protocol in place. And I think that we should follow the charter in regards to that. I do have some concerns about that. Um, and I also think that [4:03:29, 4:03:30]: When it comes to [4:03:31, 4:03:32]: Police services. [4:03:33, 4:03:48]: our chief uh i understand i can understand code enforcement that makes sense i mean uh they're they're enforcing laws such as the our police officers but when you come when you're dealing with the co the court [4:03:48, 4:03:54]: Everyone is just um not gonna be just ready on day one. They have to have some prep time. [4:03:55, 4:03:58]: We had four hundred hearings a day. [4:03:58, 4:04:18]: in court you don't have court every single day and it was broken up into a m hours and p.m hours there were three clerks one clerk which was anita i um i forgot her last name gunno and then you had pam and you had another and i believe we had um there were two there were three clerks [4:04:19, 4:04:24]: uh two assistants and one main clerk. And then you had your detective. [4:04:24, 4:04:34]: And the police services that you read about in other organizational charts that deal with court services, they're talking about security and bailiffs. [4:04:34, 4:04:38]: I just pulled up the city of Duluth right now. None of them. [4:04:39, 4:04:51]: The courts, the judges report, they're the main person that reports over to the city manager in regards to the courts. Police services are in charge of the um [4:04:52, 4:04:54]: the the security [4:04:55, 4:05:02]: services of the court, but to file look let's say a police uh writes a ticket, speeding ticket. [4:05:02, 4:05:08]: When you when a solicitor calls them up for trial, you're telling me that the person running the courtroom. [4:05:09, 4:05:19]: The police is in char the chief is in charge of not only th in charge of the people who are running the courtroom as well as [4:05:20, 4:05:27]: Who also report to a judge as well as they have someone on the witness stand. [4:05:28, 4:05:41]: I mean it that's a big conflict there. And I would um ask everyone to go and look at all types of org charts and and and see that I think that's a line that we just really don't want to cross. [4:05:42, 4:05:51]: Um, and so I I want us to take into consideration all of the suggestions that are made. I have some myself. [4:05:51, 4:05:52]: Um including [4:05:53, 4:05:55]: Um from admin. [4:05:55, 4:06:12]: And and and also looking at and reviewing job descriptions. But I think that we would be here all night trying to go down those lists. So we need to do it. I guess I guess we need to send out emails to everybody on the changes that we wish to make and at some point have a discussion on it. [4:06:15, 4:06:29]: All right, thank you for that. Any other comments thus far in reference to uh the budget for the second reading convention? I'm gonna have to hear shortly, I'm gonna have to open up to the public. I don't know if we have any public comments or not, but I have to at least have to open it up. [4:06:29, 4:06:30]: Sure. [4:06:30, 4:06:32]: I have one could go ahead and [4:06:32, 4:06:52]: Yeah, go ahead, Ms. Darren. I'm sorry. Go ahead. I was just wondering what was the reasoning behind reducing the staffing for public works. We fought hard last year to get those positions because everything is increasing. And the only reason we didn't feel those positions, because now with COVID,$13 an hour, a lot of people got a lot more options now. [4:06:52, 4:06:54]: than they had before. [4:06:54, 4:07:03]: And if you reduce that number from eight to two, it's really gonna hurt the department because you already stretched thin in the areas that you're working in. [4:07:03, 4:07:08]: And that was that's my only concern because something is gonna go lacking because you won't have the resources. [4:07:13, 4:07:14]: Is that a question for me? [4:07:15, 4:07:19]: Yeah, I would say so since I am that was my concern. [4:07:19, 4:07:26]: Okay. So the reason being is and I know that thirteen dollars an hour is um a bit [4:07:27, 4:07:29]: Challenging to get someone. [4:07:29, 4:07:32]: To come on board with that. I was hoping that. [4:07:33, 4:07:34]: Perhaps Dan. [4:07:34, 4:07:38]: would look at other ways to increase the salary. [4:07:38, 4:07:40]: So would be more attractive. [4:07:41, 4:07:41]: To people. [4:07:42, 4:07:43]: Um [4:07:43, 4:07:46]: It didn't happen. Those positions went unfilled. [4:07:47, 4:07:49]: Not only that, we're contracting out. [4:07:49, 4:07:52]: A lot of services from public works. [4:07:53, 4:07:54]: Landscaping. [4:07:54, 4:07:55]: Free training. [4:07:56, 4:07:57]: Um right of way maintenance. [4:07:58, 4:08:03]: So I figured since we're already contracting out a lot of those services. [4:08:03, 4:08:04]: Um [4:08:05, 4:08:07]: We've been getting by. [4:08:07, 4:08:10]: Pretty good this year with the staff that we have. [4:08:10, 4:08:12]: Um but of course these are just [4:08:13, 4:08:14]: Сугінсь фмі. [4:08:15, 4:08:19]: Um I'm the only one who um is making this suggestion. [4:08:19, 4:08:25]: And I welcome my councilmates to offer other solutions, but those positions remain. [4:08:26, 4:08:27]: And field. [4:08:28, 4:08:28]: So I figure [4:08:30, 4:08:33]: You all aren't aggressively looking to recruit for them. [4:08:33, 4:08:36]: So we shouldn't include them in the twenty twenty two budget. [4:08:37, 4:08:40]: Because they weren't feel this year. [4:08:41, 4:08:46]: I think how many people did you uh were you able to hire this year? [4:08:46, 4:09:01]: We got one person, but we had that conversation the other day. They say uh council made a decision that a starting pay would be thirteen dollars an hour. When you compete with Yeah, we made that decision. We certainly did. That's what [4:09:02, 4:09:06]: That's what the starting salary was, you know, and rem Miss Wheeler and I [4:09:07, 4:09:15]: Had a conversation the other day with the mayor about the starting salary was so low. That's why we haven't been able to fill those positions. But [4:09:15, 4:09:26]: The the thing is we've been working diligently, but everybody is facing that shortage. Trying to find personnel, trying to recruit recruit staff is it's just been difficult. [4:09:27, 4:09:47]: Uh Mayor Pro Tem, I guess you have your hand up. The the final thing I say is when you bring somebody in above 13 and they're competing with someone that's been here for five to ten plus years, then that's difficult for the person that has been here and improving themselves to the city and you're gonna bring somebody in near the amount they're making or equal to what they're making. [4:09:47, 4:09:50]: And it just causes issues within the department. [4:09:53, 4:09:55]: Yeah, I understand that. Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. [4:09:56, 4:09:57]: Very quickly. No [4:09:58, 4:09:59]: This is what we need to do. [4:10:00, 4:10:03]: In my estimation, which is one of the suggestions that I want. [4:10:03, 4:10:09]: I think first of all we should have a fifteen million fifteen dollar minimum wage across the board. [4:10:09, 4:10:29]: bringing everybody up to the competitive level of where we are right now. But that as Mr. Aaron said, it would be unfair so that measure requires an additional step to go out and then survey what uh other employees are making above$15 an hour because this is the budget time now. So [4:10:29, 4:10:31]: the people who have already been here. [4:10:31, 4:10:33]: Would have to get an increase also. [4:10:33, 4:10:37]: As I've gone around and I've talked to employee after employee. [4:10:37, 4:10:43]: After patting myself on the chest for getting a previous survey done, I was told [4:10:43, 4:10:50]: I didn't get I only got 10 cents. I only got five cents. It didn't reach us. So I think what she should we should do is test staff. [4:10:51, 4:10:52]: We're going out. [4:10:52, 4:10:55]: And doing another survey. [4:10:55, 4:10:58]: Inclusive of the entire metro Atlanta area. [4:10:59, 4:11:09]: to make sure the staff salaries are competitive. And we understand that corporations out there now,$15 is the minimum. And if you want to get [4:11:09, 4:11:29]: Decent employees,$15 needs to be the minimum because otherwise the positions are never going to be filled. That is what is going on out there. It's it's very competitive, but in the end, you get what you pay for. And again, this is just my recommendation. And Ms. Barber made her recommend. [4:11:29, 4:11:48]: Recommendations, we will all do that and discuss that. But this is how I would solve the problem bringing everybody up to a competitive wage because as leaders here, we have one task. That is when somebody clocks in to work for the city of Stockbridge, they should be able to take care of their family. [4:11:49, 4:11:52]: And when rents are seventeen to eighteen hundred dollars a month. [4:11:53, 4:11:54]: Out there. [4:11:54, 4:12:00]: making ten or eleven dollars an hour does not even get you a place to stay in our area. [4:12:00, 4:12:05]: So we need to deal with that and to make sure that our employees make a living wage. [4:12:07, 4:12:09]: Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. [4:12:09, 4:12:10]: Uh [4:12:12, 4:12:18]: What what I I what I think we're all overlooking, and I know we've sort of been through [4:12:18, 4:12:19]: Um [4:12:19, 4:12:22]: Буджет цикл збифо. [4:12:23, 4:12:28]: But I I I think we saw the just missing, you know, the the the processes here. [4:12:28, 4:12:30]: Uh in the budget. [4:12:30, 4:12:34]: When we approve the budget, and I'm looking down at my notes. [4:12:34, 4:12:35]: Uh the [4:12:35, 4:12:38]: pay class schedule [4:12:38, 4:12:44]: Uh and and we're if we're looking at uh the position of a public works technician. [4:12:45, 4:12:47]: This is where we [4:12:47, 4:12:51]: If we want to ig if we want to increase that to fifteen dollars. [4:12:51, 4:12:53]: This is where we do that. [4:12:54, 4:12:56]: i in a motion form and and it's voted on. [4:12:57, 4:12:58]: Let me just say that number one. [4:12:59, 4:12:59]: Um [4:13:00, 4:13:06]: Uh it's been a long night. Now I've gone through the budget like I do every year and I have [4:13:07, 4:13:08]: Um [4:13:08, 4:13:15]: Sort of detected at least a uh one a million five in savings. [4:13:15, 4:13:16]: That I have seen. [4:13:17, 4:13:21]: I'm not gonna try to present that, but I will put that out to the full council. [4:13:21, 4:13:28]: uh in various uh line items. But what I'd like to do, Mayor, I'd like to set up a meeting with you. [4:13:29, 4:13:32]: And all of the uh department heads. [4:13:33, 4:13:34]: to discuss [4:13:35, 4:13:36]: Um [4:13:36, 4:13:39]: Well what I see as as saving for the city. [4:13:40, 4:13:45]: And I'd like to get a better understanding from department heads because they are the ones that have [4:13:46, 4:13:55]: Created these wish lists, and I want to I I just need a better explanation why uh some of the budget line items have have increased. [4:13:55, 4:13:58]: And but again for for everyone on the council. [4:13:59, 4:14:16]: It's a process that we have to go through and we have to go through the budget. We have to look at line items. And if we have recommendation or suggestion, this is where we make those uh recommendations. And things have to go into a motion. [4:14:16, 4:14:29]: uh for the council to approve. I understand we we're just talking and I think you know suggestions are rightfully so. But at this last um budget hearing, [4:14:29, 4:14:45]: All of these things will have to be put into a motion. We have to go into the budget. We have to look at the line items. We have to look at the departments and see where we want to make these changes. And I say that because the [4:14:45, 4:14:49]: Um managers well the department heads. [4:14:49, 4:14:51]: have presented [4:14:51, 4:14:52]: A budget. [4:14:53, 4:14:55]: It is up to this council. [4:14:55, 4:14:57]: Whether we approve [4:14:58, 4:15:00]: This budget the way it is now. [4:15:01, 4:15:02]: So now [4:15:02, 4:15:03]: The the [4:15:04, 4:15:06]: Directors have suggested [4:15:07, 4:15:07]: What [4:15:08, 4:15:09]: They desire. [4:15:09, 4:15:12]: It is up to us now to say [4:15:12, 4:15:20]: Well, yay or nay, or this is what we recommend, and we make those changes accordingly. [4:15:20, 4:15:37]: Uh but before I close just on that and and mayor, I will get with you again. I will put this out to you. I would like to meet with you, Mayor, and all of the um department heads and any other council members uh that wants to meet with me. And I was gonna ask the attorneys. [4:15:37, 4:15:41]: Um it would this be more of informational? [4:15:42, 4:15:47]: As opposed to any kind of legislation. And I think that we can meet [4:15:47, 4:15:50]: to discuss just for information because [4:15:51, 4:16:07]: What I need is is reasoning why uh some of these line items have increased. And this is what I need in order for me to be able to vote yay or nay on the proposed budget. And let's remember it is a proposed. [4:16:07, 4:16:08]: Betty. [4:16:08, 4:16:12]: And it is up to council, it is our responsibility. [4:16:12, 4:16:13]: To approve the [4:16:14, 4:16:27]: or to amend or to make changes based on what uh the directors have suggested that they won't. And this but it's uh it's uh up it is up to us again. But let me uh go back to Mr. Wiggins. [4:16:27, 4:16:37]: Uh and I know my name was referencing some things that I I mentioned at the last meeting, but Mr. Mr. Wigan, I want you to understand that a motion [4:16:37, 4:16:39]: was made. [4:16:39, 4:16:42]: It was second and it it was approved. [4:16:42, 4:16:46]: As far as a job description of a new [4:16:47, 4:16:51]: Let me underline the word it was a new position in HR. [4:16:51, 4:16:55]: So I'm saying this, uh Mr. Wigan, I want to make sure that that [4:16:55, 4:17:02]: Is coming forward and it should have been highlighted uh in this second reading. [4:17:02, 4:17:22]: Again, it was legislated properly. The motion was made and it was second and it was approved. So I'm not sure if it's there, Mr. Wigan, but um that was legally that HR position is still there. I'm Mr. Wigan, repeat the HR position is still there, it hasn't gone anywhere. [4:17:22, 4:17:26]: No, I didn't say the position. I I I mentioned the qualification. [4:17:26, 4:17:27]: For the position. [4:17:28, 4:17:36]: That that that change should be there. And I read that out. Uh it's in the minutes. You can refer back to the city clerk. [4:17:36, 4:17:39]: Not the position, but the qualifications. [4:17:40, 4:17:41]: For that position. [4:17:42, 4:17:45]: And so that should have come forward. [4:17:45, 4:17:49]: Uh with that and I think that was the only [4:17:50, 4:18:00]: That was the now I I know you you read some changes from the first reading to to this reading, but that should also be in the [4:18:00, 4:18:06]: Second reason because uh reading, because that was legislated. So that should be there, number one. [4:18:06, 4:18:11]: Uh but again if I remember right, uh I I think when I uh read [4:18:11, 4:18:14]: A description for that HR position. [4:18:15, 4:18:18]: That was sent out this last time. I thought I saw [4:18:19, 4:18:20]: Ten years on there. [4:18:22, 4:18:29]: that that was the that was the new job script uh madam clerk can you can you read that do you have that handy [4:18:30, 4:18:37]: The motion that was made and and were proved for the qualification. Oh, I understand the motion. I don't have a problem with the motion. [4:18:38, 4:18:41]: I'm saying I guess I guess what I don't know. [4:18:41, 4:18:46]: You didn't you didn't indicate and it and it may be there, but I'm just saying [4:18:46, 4:18:56]: that should be that should be in from the first reading because it had a a a qualification to the second reading. [4:18:56, 4:19:07]: And so that was approved. So that should continue to go forward all the way to the third reading. And it may be that I don't know. You didn't mention that. So I don't know if it was there or not. Oh, I understand. You you you want me to. [4:19:08, 4:19:13]: actually highlight I guess I'm asking you a question did that legislation move forward? [4:19:14, 4:19:20]: Yeah, I remember seeing the description that said 10 years on the HR position. [4:19:20, 4:19:37]: Am I am I right, Vanessa? You're correct. Um I think I just want to make I just want to make sure and I guess and I guess this is I guess I'm saying this to all my counselmates is that this is the way that these things have to come forward. I know we're just talking suggestions now. [4:19:38, 4:19:43]: But we have to put all of these things in some kind of a of of of a motion. [4:19:43, 4:19:44]: And it has to be [4:19:45, 4:19:54]: Uh second it has to be voted on. So what I would recommend to all of us with all of our suggestion, and I have more, trust me, I have more. [4:19:54, 4:19:56]: But we have to take the budget. [4:19:56, 4:20:02]: The way it is, and we have to inject in the budget format. [4:20:03, 4:20:04]: The changes [4:20:05, 4:20:07]: That we want to see. [4:20:07, 4:20:09]: And we have to sort of spell it out. [4:20:10, 4:20:15]: where motions are made. Now it could be it could be into it could be total. [4:20:16, 4:20:36]: That the motion is made to approve the budget the way it is, or we can go through the line items and make those recommendations and make those motions to be included. And so, but the final product is that we're voting on a total final product, not piece by piece by piece. [4:20:36, 4:20:46]: But you have to put those pieces in. So that's why I'm saying that I want the opportunity to meet with the mayor and the department head because. [4:20:46, 4:20:51]: What the uh directors have proposed. [4:20:51, 4:21:11]: I'm not totally uh in agreement with that because I need to know the reason why a director has proposed an increase in a line item. See, the line item could be it could be travel, it could be training, it could be uh hospitality, it could be anything, but I'm just saying. [4:21:11, 4:21:15]: You have to take these lines that way. [4:21:15, 4:21:16]: Two, two. [4:21:16, 4:21:21]: uh agree or disagree or to vote in favor not uh or if you going to [4:21:21, 4:21:28]: uh make some modifications along those line items. So am I I mean am I talking the same language, uh Mr. Wiggins? [4:21:30, 4:21:33]: No you you that's if if if uh [4:21:33, 4:21:41]: Individually, counselor, if you councilman, if you uh you know, you're making a suggestion, you're right. If you if something needs to be [4:21:42, 4:21:43]: Hard coded into the budget. [4:21:44, 4:21:46]: You have to uh make a motion and vote for it. [4:21:47, 4:21:48]: And using [4:21:48, 4:21:51]: Usually with the suggestion you go through and you [4:21:52, 4:21:55]: You compile I compile all the suggestions. [4:21:55, 4:21:57]: Put'em in the budget, see how it works. [4:21:57, 4:21:59]: And then once you take another look at it. [4:22:00, 4:22:05]: And then that's when you in totality, you have you know, the council votes for it. But [4:22:06, 4:22:07]: Like like now, um [4:22:09, 4:22:09]: Uh [4:22:09, 4:22:14]: Everything all the all of the uh suggestions and anything that you [4:22:14, 4:22:20]: you want to see or you want to discuss it all needs to go to the mayor who's who's a uh acting city manager. [4:22:20, 4:22:24]: And then he'll get what get what um myself and all of the um [4:22:25, 4:22:29]: directors and start seeing and making the change, you know. [4:22:30, 4:22:39]: Well Mayor Mr. Mr. Wiggins. Hand by a second. Go ahead, go ahead. Go ahead and stop. Let me give you an example, and I'm just gonna use this. [4:22:39, 4:22:50]: Uh and I guess I'm I'm I'm speaking to I know uh Councilwoman Barber said she was new, but I guess I'm speaking to to everyone here. I'm just taking this as an example of one of the [4:22:50, 4:22:57]: uh department that I looked at uh under uh community development, uh planning and zoning. [4:22:57, 4:23:01]: Now say a a certain amount was proposed. [4:23:02, 4:23:04]: It was proposed. [4:23:04, 4:23:10]: I may disagree with what was proposed and I may have an alternative. [4:23:10, 4:23:11]: Uh proposal. [4:23:12, 4:23:19]: And so I will indicate that, but I go through the whole budget and I look at every department. [4:23:19, 4:23:25]: I look at every line item, but what's important is I look at what is being proposed. [4:23:26, 4:23:45]: And so if I agree with that, then everything is okay. But if I don't agree with it, then I'm gonna come with something that I know that that I can live with. And again, if we if we go back and look at all of the um project updates that we had tonight, and we're looking at [4:23:46, 4:23:50]: uh cost, cost, cost, cost, cost. Now a lot of these projects. [4:23:51, 4:23:56]: have a designated funding source, that is well and good. [4:23:56, 4:24:11]: But a lot of these projects do not. So are we gonna have to tap into uh uh uh fund balance to to to finance some of these things? And so I'm um I'm I'm talking sort of long-winded just to get us to understand is that. [4:24:11, 4:24:30]: We have to look at the total picture of operating this city, whether it's the police department, whether it's uh community development, whether it's in uh public works, uh code enforcement. We have to look at all of these line items, but we have to look at what is being proposed. [4:24:30, 4:24:36]: And I could go through, and I've gone through, and like I say, I see uh a million dollar saving. [4:24:37, 4:24:57]: Only because we just got to cut back some. See, I'm not one, I'm not, I'm not Santa Claus. I'm not willing to give folks um uh uh uh just a blind eye to a wish list. And I would recommend to the council that we have to tighten the belt up a little bit. I think we can survive and I think we [4:24:57, 4:25:00]: can still operate without um [4:25:00, 4:25:20]: increasing the budget in certain areas. Some areas of the budget, it does need that. But just because it's a wish list and but just because it is proposed, that doesn't mean that these department heads are going to get that. And I think we have to scrutinize the budget. And I think this is the way that we have to operate. And [4:25:20, 4:25:32]: But again, I understand the fact that we have funding sources that's going to uh alleviate some of the um you know finances coming out of fund balance, which is great, which is good. [4:25:32, 4:25:37]: But I just think we as a council, I think we need to do our due diligence. [4:25:38, 4:25:46]: Go through the budget, look at every department, look at every line item, and see what is being proposed. And you look at that versus. [4:25:47, 4:25:55]: What was proposed last year and the year before that, and the year before that. See, and I'll say this in a lot of in some of these line items. [4:25:55, 4:26:02]: There are monies that are being proposed that over the last three years, the money has never been used. [4:26:02, 4:26:05]: So why would you inflate the budget? [4:26:06, 4:26:15]: with with with with this proposal and the money is not being used, but you can redirect the those money to where it is needed. [4:26:15, 4:26:17]: You see what I'm saying? So [4:26:18, 4:26:19]: That that's who I am. [4:26:19, 4:26:23]: And that's how I look at the budget. And I'm just recommending that. [4:26:23, 4:26:32]: This is how we should look at the budget. So me, I'm I'm gonna cut short right there, but I will get with you, Mr. Mayor, and I will ask for a meeting with. [4:26:33, 4:26:44]: um directors and any council members that want to join. And I have a lot of questions to ask about line item. And and and and Mr. Aaron, just just for you. [4:26:44, 4:26:48]: Um I I one of my questions, I I want to know. [4:26:49, 4:26:49]: Um [4:26:50, 4:27:10]: The cutting zones uh for uh general maintenance. And I know we talked about this before. I want to know um the zones, how often do we cut, how many workers are in these zones, and and what if you want an additional eight folk? So, what are they going to do during the none? [4:27:10, 4:27:10]: And [4:27:11, 4:27:12]: Cut in season. [4:27:12, 4:27:32]: So these are just questions. I know you have answers for these, but I'm just saying I just need to ask the question and I just need to get your response to that. And then after that process, then it may still be okay. But these are questions that I want to ask, and hopefully that you can answer that for me. How many zones, how many uh right-of-way cutting zones do we have? [4:27:32, 4:27:40]: How many workers are in these zones, and how often during the grass cutting season, how often do we cut? [4:27:41, 4:27:45]: And then during the non-cutting season, what do they do? [4:27:46, 4:27:51]: And I think these are legitimate questions, but I have questions for every director. [4:27:52, 4:27:54]: Right. And because of Thanksgiving and [4:27:55, 4:28:13]: you know, campaigning. I just haven't had that opportunity to have this kind of dialogue with with all of the directors, but I do plan to do that before the thirteenth of December. Okay, we'll we'll set it up. We'll set everything up. Uh we'll work through the process, set it up, uh Councilman Thomas. Uh Ms. Gantt, go ahead. You have something to say. [4:28:13, 4:28:15]: I did. Um [4:28:15, 4:28:16]: Yeah. [4:28:16, 4:28:36]: I'm gonna be real short. I don't recall. I remember us having a discussion about the HR physician, and then 10 years' experience came, but I don't remember voting for that. I remember us discussing that. And then Ms. Wheeler made some statements about her concerns on that, based off the years of experience. And I don't [4:28:36, 4:28:45]: recall and I know that the position was already there listed. So I don't recall that. And I knew that was kind of slid in as an example, but for the record. [4:28:46, 4:28:54]: I don't recall us voting for a 10 years of experienced person based off of changing the job description to read as such. [4:28:55, 4:28:57]: Um and I'll go back and review the tape. [4:28:58, 4:29:18]: Um I I ask that other council members do the same. In regards to the budget and why the inflation, I do believe that we should look back at fair reasonable days pre-post, but not I mean post or pre-pandemic days. Right now, of course. [4:29:17, 4:29:21]: a lot of things the city hall wasn't open we just opened last week [4:29:22, 4:29:26]: for the public. So a lot of spending, a lot of things stopped. [4:29:26, 4:29:46]: um activities, you name it, for quite some time frame. So I think we need to really honestly take that into consideration. We also um lost our city manager. Uh you know, uh our city manager resigned during this time frame of the budget discussion. [4:29:46, 4:30:06]: And yes, we usually go line by line, but we also had a retreat and were able to do so. Um, so I think and Councilman Thomas, I I would love to sit in the meetings with you when you ask those questions because those are some very good questions. You make some very good points on some things. But I totally would like. [4:30:06, 4:30:26]: For us to consider some of the things that even Mayor Pro Tem Um Alexander made some great points in regards to a pay scale, which I hope that we were already there anyway. But I think that we really have to sit down. And again, all our suggestions should be through email. [4:30:26, 4:30:42]: email or however we're gonna do it and then iron out what should be the right way to go. When I speak, I don't speak saying that this is it. I speak saying, hey, we I know I need three votes to get something across. [4:30:42, 4:30:46]: sometimes it comes across as this is the way it's going to be done and that's that. [4:30:46, 4:31:06]: And I hope that we all make wise educated decisions and research and show, you know, we're not reinventing the wheel, but we also want to be considerate of what used to be, because hopefully the COVID numbers are going down and we can get back to normal and we're [4:31:06, 4:31:15]: Going to need to have things already in place and not be behind the curve ball, but be in front of it. [4:31:16, 4:31:25]: So that's my two cents. I just hope that we can move on from here. We've heard the budget hearing for tonight and it is 1134 and we got other items. [4:31:26, 4:31:28]: Thank you. It's eleven thirty. [4:31:28, 4:31:29]: Okay. [4:31:29, 4:31:34]: All right. Eleven thirty four PM. Okay. No problem. Mr. Thomas, you got something else, sir. [4:31:35, 4:31:47]: Finally, I I I just want to just say this and I'm gonna ask the city clerk if she would just um read that back into I'm not sure if everyone was present uh at that point in time. [4:31:47, 4:31:51]: Uh it did come forward. It was read, it was stated. [4:31:52, 4:31:56]: Um there were some conversation, but let me just say this though. [4:31:57, 4:31:57]: We had a vote. [4:31:58, 4:32:03]: We did. Let me just say this man. I'm gonna be real short with this. I know I spoke quite a while. [4:32:04, 4:32:05]: Um [4:32:06, 4:32:10]: When I was out and about doing this last campaign. [4:32:10, 4:32:16]: I heard a lot from citizens. And and I'll say this, and this has always been my position. [4:32:16, 4:32:17]: Um [4:32:19, 4:32:21]: Citizens demand [4:32:22, 4:32:24]: quite a bit from the elected body. [4:32:26, 4:32:29]: We cannot live on our past Laura, what we did and [4:32:30, 4:32:33]: Twenty nineteen, twenty eighteen, and twenty seventeen. [4:32:33, 4:32:36]: The bar always goes up. [4:32:37, 4:32:43]: And it has to trickle down. The accountability has to trickle down from the setting. It comes to us. [4:32:43, 4:32:45]: We had to pass it down to staff. [4:32:46, 4:32:49]: And that's just the nature of this kind of business that we're in. [4:32:49, 4:32:50]: For me [4:32:51, 4:32:51]: Um [4:32:52, 4:32:54]: We as an elected body. [4:32:54, 4:32:57]: Um, we high staff. [4:32:57, 4:33:07]: to come in and to move our goals and objectives forward. That is their role. We are the legislators, we are the policymakers. [4:33:08, 4:33:09]: That's what we do. [4:33:09, 4:33:15]: We have folks to come in to move those things forward. It's not the other way around. [4:33:16, 4:33:26]: You know, we we put the policies out there, we put the goals and objectives out there, and we have staff that can come and move those goals forward. [4:33:26, 4:33:37]: That's the nature of this municipality. This is the nature of that business. But Mrs. Um uh sit Madam Kirk, would you read, if you will, that legislation that was passed at the last budget hearing? [4:33:40, 4:33:43]: Okay, I was just pulling up the action. [4:33:43, 4:33:44]: Minutes. [4:33:45, 4:33:51]: If you don't have it available, we won't we won't I won't hold the meeting up because we just we still have quite a bit, but I'm just saying. [4:33:52, 4:33:53]: Um [4:33:54, 4:34:07]: And council, council know me. I I've been on the council almost 10 years. I've been the same way every year. This is what I do every year. I go through this budget and I come forward with the same thing every year. [4:34:08, 4:34:17]: All right. I'll tell you what, let me let me open it. Mayor, if you will allow her Okay, go ahead. Go ahead, please. Go ahead and read it. [4:34:18, 4:34:36]: So um Councilman Thomas amend he amended there was an original uh motion, but the one that passed was when he amended his motion and made a motion to amend the HR coordinator position with a minimum of 10 years of [4:34:37, 4:34:39]: Ten years of public safety. [4:34:39, 4:34:40]: Experience. [4:34:41, 4:34:43]: And all associated funding. [4:34:44, 4:34:49]: Noted, noting as Miss Wheeler and Chief Tramer spoke. [4:34:49, 4:34:52]: to the public safety acknowledged that they would [4:34:53, 4:34:54]: That would be needed. [4:34:55, 4:34:58]: And it was seconded by Councilwoman Barber. [4:34:58, 4:35:00]: The motion passed three one one. [4:35:01, 4:35:02]: Thank you. [4:35:02, 4:35:03]: Okay. [4:35:03, 4:35:23]: Right at this moment I'd like to just uh stop this discussion with the council and just open us up for the a public hearing because this is actually supposed to be a public hearing, right? So I'm gonna open up a public hearing for any uh anybody that is uh in favor uh of uh the current discussion or favor of the budget as as we have discussed and they as they know it is this point. [4:35:23, 4:35:43]: And so I would let last the Ms. Holiday if she knows of any anybody out there said that's indicating that they want to be in favor of this or is online and my public relations uh uh officer is online if these if there's anything good evening, Mayor. Yep. As as of now, Mayor Ford, there is no comment or feedback. [4:35:43, 4:35:46]: regarding this discussion on social media. [4:35:46, 4:35:56]: So let me okay, so let me just ask this other half of you. No, you told me let me anybody against the public hearing uh or any comments uh uh against this budget, I mean this public hearing aspect. [4:35:57, 4:36:03]: I said for now against. Uh so I've say that there's no one against you see no one out there for any comments of against. Is that correct? [4:36:07, 4:36:23]: Ms. Ford, yes. Um the comments we do have um some feedback, um, but the stance doesn't seem to be definitively for or against it's referencing stations that are needed, funding um, and things needed for the future. [4:36:23, 4:36:24]: Um [4:36:24, 4:36:26]: Elements of the amphitheater. [4:36:27, 4:36:28]: Okay. [4:36:28, 4:36:32]: That's on social media. So that may just be taken as some feedback as well. [4:36:32, 4:36:33]: Okay. All right. [4:36:34, 4:36:54]: All right. On that note, uh, I will close this public hearing at this time. All right, now it's closed. Uh before we move on, council, any other questions or concerns or thoughts before we move on to the next subject on this uh in reference to uh the budget. Now we will set up we'll set up some time frames uh uh and here shortly uh to have [4:36:54, 4:37:03]: this discussion with the directors, my involvement and some council involvement as well to have to go through this more thoroughly so we can be proper properly ready to go on the 13th of December. [4:37:04, 4:37:11]: All right. No other comments will be but May Mayor. I'm sorry. Sorry if I if if uh if if I could I spoke to um [4:37:12, 4:37:13]: Um [4:37:13, 4:37:15]: I've sent some information to council um [4:37:16, 4:37:22]: yesterday or day before yesterday regarding the uh police budget. And I know that we had um changed that amount from [4:37:22, 4:37:32]: believe it was originally set at two point six million dollars. Uh we moved it up to three point three million dollars and that was to cover um essentially seven months worth of salaries. [4:37:33, 4:37:39]: be able to onboard new folks from June until the end of the year. Uh one of the things that was not factored in. [4:37:39, 4:37:46]: was police services or continuation of police services rather from Henry County from January until July. [4:37:46, 4:37:58]: So we would need to add two hundred and eighty eight thousand dollars to police services budget to continue with the same level of service that we're receiving from Henry County between now and July one. And I've got [4:37:58, 4:38:08]: Uh the data on that, if you would like to see that, I can pull up on my screen a breakdown of uh what those funds are exactly, but we would need to amend the budget. [4:38:08, 4:38:15]: To add two hundred and eighty eight thousand dollars to the police services budget for Henry County Police Services from January until July. [4:38:15, 4:38:18]: You said you already sent that to us though? Is that right? [4:38:18, 4:38:23]: I I sent out a presentation uh yesterday, uh summary presentation. [4:38:24, 4:38:29]: Okay. But that's the same presentation you just opted to show us right now. Is that correct? [4:38:30, 4:38:31]: Yeah, would you like me to pull that up? [4:38:32, 4:38:35]: Mm sure, why not? Why not? I mean. [4:38:35, 4:38:36]: Oh yeah. [4:38:36, 4:38:38]: Let me pull this up here for you. [4:38:38, 4:38:44]: Um just so you can see everybody hopefully can see my screen here and I'll pull that this up. [4:38:44, 4:38:48]: So basically seven months of uh police salaries is [4:38:49, 4:38:50]: Um [4:38:51, 4:38:58]: You can see here at the bottom three point three seven two. We've uh earmarked three point three million dollars. This is just for [4:38:58, 4:39:11]: Stockbridge police departments for seven months worth of operating expenses. This is just for Stockbridge PD. This does not include Henry County. Uh if we continue with Henry County Police Services, this is what that's gonna look like. So from January to July. [4:39:12, 4:39:21]: These are the things that we've been paying for. So we pay uh two to three officers seven days a week for a park and business patrol detail. It'd be a hundred and thirteen thousand. [4:39:21, 4:39:26]: Our city hall detail, an officer Monday through Friday from eight to five is fifty four thousand. The amphitheater. [4:39:27, 4:39:33]: Uh estimating between now and start date, six events of fifteen officers is thirty-two thousand. The court detail. [4:39:33, 4:39:38]: Three officers record two to three days per month, ten thousand dollars. Special events. [4:39:38, 4:39:43]: Is there anything that comes up um uh through the events department? [4:39:43, 4:39:49]: Uh twelve thousand dollars and then the council detail, one officer two days per month for council is about three. [4:39:50, 4:39:53]: thousand dollars puts us at two hundred and twenty seven thousand dollars. [4:39:54, 4:40:02]: Uh if you look at the PD budget, 3.3 plus the 227 puts us a total budget need of 3.6. [4:40:02, 4:40:09]: We've earmarked three point three one one two nine six according to the most recent, which would put us at a deficit. [4:40:09, 4:40:15]: of two hundred eighty eight thousand nine hundred and eighty eight dollars to continue to provide that same level of service. [4:40:17, 4:40:18]: All right, thank you, sir, for that. [4:40:19, 4:40:29]: Okay, so obviously w the bottom line is we're gonna have to make an adjustment uh to your budget uh for twenty twenty two to make this thing work properly. Is what I gather. Is that correct? [4:40:31, 4:40:33]: Yes, sir, that's correct. Assuming that's uh wishes of the council. [4:40:34, 4:40:38]: So that was from January to June or January to July. [4:40:38, 4:40:49]: January to July. From June to July we'll be training our officers on our policies and procedures and operating protocols. So we won't be in a position to be able to assume those services from June to July. [4:40:51, 4:40:51]: All right. [4:40:52, 4:41:00]: All right, we're gonna move on to new business. Council consideration approved downtown Stockbridge 2021 strategic work plan. [4:41:00, 4:41:01]: Mr. Peterson, please. [4:41:05, 4:41:08]: Thank you, Mayor and Council. In um [4:41:08, 4:41:11]: June of this year, June of twenty twenty one. [4:41:12, 4:41:17]: The downtown development authority and Main Street had a droid strategic planning session. [4:41:17, 4:41:19]: And from that session. [4:41:19, 4:41:24]: Came a joint strategic plan that Main Street needed for. [4:41:25, 4:41:28]: their uh certification uh that they need every year. [4:41:28, 4:41:30]: And uh also um [4:41:31, 4:41:36]: It provided an opportunity for the D DA and Main Street to collaborate from my understanding. [4:41:36, 4:41:38]: That was the first time that this happened. [4:41:38, 4:41:43]: In the city of Stockbridge. Um a lot of transformation strategies came from that. [4:41:43, 4:41:45]: uh vision and a lot of [4:41:45, 4:41:51]: Important and uh tangible goals came from that. Uh additionally, four committees were formed. [4:41:52, 4:41:57]: We have the Downtown Connectivity and Design Committee that's head by Kira and Lisa. [4:41:57, 4:42:00]: We have the downtown beautification and activation committee. [4:42:01, 4:42:04]: Also head by Kieran Lisa, our main street staff. [4:42:04, 4:42:09]: Our tourism product development committee headed by Roger Custon, who's our [4:42:09, 4:42:11]: Downtown Development Authority Director. [4:42:11, 4:42:23]: and the downtown business recruitment and retention committee, uh head by me, the economic development department. Um, we would like for the city council to um [4:42:23, 4:42:37]: formally uh approve this plan just so we'll have you all's backing uh moving forward. And I know that we had a lot of council members uh come to that session this summer and we really, really appreciated that. [4:42:37, 4:42:39]: And we just would like you all's backing. [4:42:41, 4:42:46]: All right. So you want a mo motion to accept this uh this particular strategic plan. Is that correct, sir? [4:42:46, 4:42:47]: Yes, sir, Mayor. [4:42:48, 4:42:51]: Okay, council. Any questions and or motion? [4:42:58, 4:43:01]: Is there a motion or any concerns or questions? [4:43:04, 4:43:07]: Okay. Looks like no one's willing to make a motion at this time. [4:43:09, 4:43:11]: Mayor, if I may. Yes, sir. [4:43:12, 4:43:12]: Um [4:43:13, 4:43:18]: Doctor Peterson, I I think what you're saying, I don't think this is a [4:43:18, 4:43:21]: A denial of this, I think. [4:43:21, 4:43:25]: I think the lateness of the night, I'm not sure if everybody have [4:43:26, 4:43:29]: actually read this document and was familiar with it. [4:43:30, 4:43:31]: Um [4:43:31, 4:43:34]: I I would suggest rather than [4:43:34, 4:43:35]: Um [4:43:36, 4:43:38]: uh a a novel [4:43:38, 4:43:41]: Um I I want to sort of suggest [4:43:42, 4:43:46]: uh tabling it. I I would hate for it to have a a record of a no vote. [4:43:47, 4:43:49]: I just think that if you give counsel [4:43:50, 4:43:54]: a little bit more time and I don't know if council wanna admit that they have not [4:43:54, 4:43:58]: fully uh read the document or [4:43:59, 4:44:01]: Uh, had the opportunity to give you a call. [4:44:02, 4:44:04]: Uh to ask some questions. [4:44:05, 4:44:08]: Um and I I sort of think that's that's sort of [4:44:08, 4:44:09]: Where we are. [4:44:09, 4:44:12]: Um I did participate in the section. [4:44:13, 4:44:14]: Session. [4:44:14, 4:44:18]: And I'm a little familiar with the document, but I'm sort of thinking this is um [4:44:19, 4:44:23]: without anyone saying it, but I think this is what's what's started happening. [4:44:23, 4:44:24]: Um [4:44:25, 4:44:26]: Would you consider [4:44:27, 4:44:46]: uh bringing this back again uh is it is is it not pressing for to for you to approval tonight i i'd i definitely would like to bring it back again and have roger custom the dda director and kira and lisa on uh it's um almost 1145 [4:44:46, 4:44:50]: Uh so I I think they've they've got an on got an off. [4:44:50, 4:44:58]: But um, you know, it it was it was a a joint, it's the it is a joint effort. Uh the plan is ongoing, it's a joint effort between Main Street. [4:44:59, 4:45:13]: and DDA and and economic developments it would be good if if they would would be on as well. Because this it is an important document. I would have no problem in making the motion. I'm not sure if I get a second, but but rather than a second. [4:45:14, 4:45:15]: Sorry. [4:45:16, 4:45:20]: Okay, well um well if if that is the case then uh mayor [4:45:21, 4:45:26]: I I I move that we move forward and uh to accept this. [4:45:26, 4:45:29]: Uh strategic work plan presented by um [4:45:29, 4:45:31]: Uh, Doctor Peterson. [4:45:31, 4:45:32]: Sir a second. [4:45:33, 4:45:33]: Yeah, yeah. [4:45:34, 4:45:38]: Okay I'm Ms. Mayor I'll give Mayor Pro Tam here. Okay. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [4:45:39, 4:45:39]: Uh. [4:45:40, 4:45:43]: Okay, it passes unanimously. Great stuff. You got it. [4:45:44, 4:45:45]: Thank you, Council. [4:45:46, 4:45:52]: Council consideration approved fleet and equipment replacement policy. Mr. Aaron, please. [4:45:53, 4:45:59]: Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. During the last budget reading, uh Councilman Thomas requested that we [4:46:00, 4:46:08]: Uh submit a vehicle and equipment replacement policy. We have done that and submitted the mayor and council for review. [4:46:08, 4:46:13]: It addresses how the city would go about replacing vehicles and equipment. [4:46:14, 4:46:27]: We all know that one size does not fit all. Certain vehicles will go beyond this life expectancy or rating system, such as like the vehicle I have is eight years old, it has 44,000 miles on it. [4:46:28, 4:46:30]: So it'll probably go ten to fifteen years. [4:46:31, 4:46:35]: before it's being replaced, but this addresses how vehicles will be replaced. [4:46:36, 4:46:38]: But it does not include the police department. [4:46:39, 4:46:51]: Because I'm sure Chief has um mechanisms in place for how he will replace his vehicles, but this is for all of the city's vehicles and equipment outside of the police department. [4:46:52, 4:46:54]: I'll take it. Yes. [4:46:54, 4:46:55]: No. [4:46:55, 4:46:57]: Councillor, any question for Mr. Aaron at all? [4:46:58, 4:47:09]: So how would we um approach the police vehicles? Uh Chief Tramer, will you be putting together a separate policy for police vehicles? [4:47:15, 4:47:15]: Yeah, so ours. [4:47:16, 4:47:21]: just because of the nature of the uh the usage of the vehicle is probably gonna be a little bit different. I had the opportunity to look at [4:47:22, 4:47:25]: Mr. Aaron put together and I think it's certainly suitable for standard [4:47:26, 4:47:34]: uh city vehicles that are used regularly just in the course of business. However, police vehicles obviously, with those being emergency vehicles, at least emergency vehicles, [4:47:34, 4:47:37]: Uh, the life cycle's probably gonna be um [4:47:37, 4:47:38]: Uh a little shorter. [4:47:39, 4:47:47]: We would have somebody when we when within the organizational proposed organizational chart, we have we have a position to actually be managing our fleet. [4:47:47, 4:47:51]: So that individual be responsible for uh keeping up with that data. [4:47:51, 4:47:59]: in providing us with the uh requisite information we would need to make the informed decision and project future replacements for vehicles. [4:48:02, 4:48:02]: All right. [4:48:03, 4:48:06]: Uh on that note, uh any further questions for Mr. Aaron? [4:48:06, 4:48:09]: And if not any motion for accept the policy. [4:48:11, 4:48:13]: Is there a motion to accept a policy? [4:48:14, 4:48:18]: Mayor Ford, I make a motion to approve the fleet and equipment replacement policy. [4:48:19, 4:48:22]: Okay, thank you, Ms. Barber. Mr. Thomas seconds that motion. [4:48:22, 4:48:24]: Okay, all in favor, please indicate. [4:48:24, 4:48:25]: I [4:48:25, 4:48:28]: Okay, fantastic passes. Good stuff. [4:48:29, 4:48:46]: Thank you, Mr. Aaron. And uh Council consideration approved purchase of police vehicle emergency equipment, graphics, and associated upfitting costs for 60 police vehicles, an amount of$754,615.40. Funding source, ARPA. [4:48:47, 4:48:50]: Mr. Well excuse me, Chief Trammer, please. [4:49:10, 4:49:10]: See? [4:49:13, 4:49:14]: I guess I was on mute. [4:49:14, 4:49:16]: You're right. Okay. [4:49:16, 4:49:30]: So um I sent to everybody you should have received a copy of the quotes. This is just a summary of those quotes, but the quotes specifically outline uh all the equipment associated costs affiliated with the different vehicles that we've ordered. [4:49:30, 4:49:48]: Uh the 39 patrol vehicles that we have, the costs on those are gonna be more expensive because you have um obviously uh prisoner transport area, cage, um uh vehicle graphics, um, light bars, whereas the administrative vehicles don't have as much emergency uh equipment on those. So [4:49:48, 4:49:55]: Um for those 39 vehicles, we're looking at about sixteen thousand dollars per vehicle, uh total cost of six hundred thirty-three thousand. [4:49:55, 4:50:05]: $254 for the uh interceptor and the rest of these are essentially administrative vehicles. You can see the associated cost price per vehicle and the total cost. [4:50:05, 4:50:12]: And for those 60 vehicles, um puts us at 754,615.39. [4:50:13, 4:50:16]: Um we're seeking to um [4:50:16, 4:50:35]: Fund this through ARPA. It would be associated emergency equipment. We did have this vetted through our city attorneys and procurement. This is a piggyback off of the state contract through the Georgia Department of Public Safety. This was competitively bid recently. [4:50:36, 4:50:52]: and uh pro logistics uh who is the vendor that we're seeking to acquire this equipment from was awarded the uh state contract the Georgia Department of Public Safety contract for federal signal products which you uh can see here at the bottom of uh this highlighted section here [4:50:53, 4:50:58]: And Dana Safety Supply was for wheel in products, but we are gonna be uh putting federal signal. [4:50:58, 4:51:04]: um emergency lights and the sirens on our vehicle. So we're seeking to piggyback again off that contract. [4:51:04, 4:51:12]: Uh with the state. As I said, this is embedded already through procurement and our attorneys. So I'm seeking uh council's approval. [4:51:12, 4:51:16]: For the funding of this so that we can equip our uh police fleet fleet. [4:51:17, 4:51:18]: with the necessary emergency equipment. [4:51:20, 4:51:21]: Any questions? [4:51:24, 4:51:26]: If no questions and need a motion to accept this proposal. [4:51:27, 4:51:30]: No move. Okay, Mr. Alexander, thank you. Is there a second? [4:51:32, 4:51:34]: Ms. Barber seconds that. Uh any further discussion? [4:51:36, 4:51:37]: And if not, all in favor, please indicate. [4:51:40, 4:51:40]: Yeah. [4:51:41, 4:51:45]: Okay, Miss Kent. Okay, you you abstain? [4:51:45, 4:51:52]: Okay. I do. Okay. So um and uh Mr. Thomas, I didn't see see. Did you vote? I'm okay. I'm in favor. [4:51:52, 4:51:57]: Okay, thank you. So that's three zero one. Okay, it passes. All right. Um [4:51:59, 4:51:59]: Excuse me. [4:52:00, 4:52:04]: All right, uh council consideration uh to approve uh [4:52:05, 4:52:19]: TSW task order for construction design of North Precinct Police Building, 4545 North Henry Boulevard, amount of 165,000,$165,175 funding sources through the bonding process. [4:52:19, 4:52:20]: Chief Trammer, please. [4:52:22, 4:52:29]: Yes, uh I'm not sure if everyone is familiar with or has seen the facility over there. It's uh quite dated and it is in need of upfitting. [4:52:30, 4:52:34]: Uh currently Henry County is operating a [4:52:34, 4:52:39]: Essentially a precinct out there. This is not a police headquarters. [4:52:39, 4:52:50]: Uh therefore there are uh necessary additions that will be required. Uh in addition to that, as I said before, the building is in need of some uh some cosmetic uh uh [4:52:51, 4:52:52]: repairs, renovations. [4:52:52, 4:52:57]: There's a complete second level of the building that's unfinished that we'd be seeking to finish out. [4:52:57, 4:53:01]: uh to allow us for uh future growth for the department. [4:53:01, 4:53:10]: Um, this is just a rendering. It's a very uh rudimentary, it's not anything uh that I'm sure Miss Hubble and her team will assemble, but I just wanted to provide. [4:53:10, 4:53:29]: uh council and uh uh you may are also with just a rendering so you have an idea of what we're looking to accomplish. This is the first level of the facility. In the upper right hand corner you can see there's a roll call room and what that room is, it's it's basically uh uh where the police officers meet prior to their shift and they receive their briefing orders. [4:53:30, 4:53:46]: We would like to expand that room, turn it into a community room slash multi-purpose room that we could use for various different community functions, public safety related functions. This would also be a training room where we could host outside training, invite other agencies in to be a part of training that we host. [4:53:46, 4:54:03]: And it would also serve as uh an emergency operations center in the event that uh we were required to set something up uh along those lines for the city. So we would want to move this space out, which would require us um moving uh this this uh this wall here, and I don't know if you all can see. [4:54:03, 4:54:12]: um my cursor, but we would have to extend this space back here, uh reconfigure a couple of offices. We would have to reconfigure this uh this center space here. [4:54:13, 4:54:32]: And um uh just add a few offices here. One of the big structural things we'd need to do is add a door to the back of the facility. This is all gated parking back here in the back. Um, and we would like the officers to be able to access the facility from the officer gated parking lot instead of uh having to [4:54:32, 4:54:33]: Um [4:54:34, 4:54:38]: walk around non-access controlled areas to gain access into the facility. [4:54:39, 4:54:49]: Uh the second level is completely uh open. We'd be looking to convert that into office space and we have consulted with TSW on this project. [4:54:49, 4:55:09]: And just wanted to give you a little bit of an overview. And Heather and Carl with Kekkenwood is also on the call with us. I believe I saw them here. And so they would be able to answer any specific questions that you might have. But the project overview basically updating the aesthetics of the building. [4:55:09, 4:55:18]: Um uh adding new doors as you can see here. The front doors are all wood. We would like to open this up, turn these into glass doors and add a door to the back of it. [4:55:18, 4:55:25]: Um the interior renovations is basically updating the floors, walls, doors, ceilings, lighting, furnishing, so on and so forth. [4:55:25, 4:55:30]: It would be reconfiguring that multi-purpose room that I spoke of. [4:55:30, 4:55:34]: We would have to incorporate a property and evidence uh slash crime lab. [4:55:34, 4:55:42]: into the building which currently does not exist. We would need to reconfigure the roll call room or patrol suite. We'd be looking to add a fitness center. [4:55:42, 4:55:46]: and then um do some office reconfiguration. [4:55:46, 4:55:58]: The unfinished space we would be converting into executive, administrative offices, conference room, kitchenette, and restrooms in that second level that I've mentioned here. So that's what we're looking to accomplish. [4:55:58, 4:56:15]: Um in going over the proposal that I sent to you all yesterday, it's broken down into several different phases. Uh the first phase obviously is the rough draft of schematic design where we sat down with our project manager, sat down with TSW and their architects. [4:56:15, 4:56:18]: And come up with uh the conceptual design. [4:56:18, 4:56:26]: Phase B would be design development where they would provide us with a rendering of that. We'd be able to make modifications if needed to if those need to be made at that time. [4:56:26, 4:56:37]: Phase C would be preparation to construction documents, and then phase D would be bidding and approval, getting all the permitting, bid preparation, evaluation, and the last part is construction administration. [4:56:37, 4:56:39]: Uh there are two [4:56:39, 4:56:41]: uh options that we are considering. [4:56:42, 4:57:00]: And in terms of uh renovation, this is just a uh timeline. So you can see if we go the traditional route in terms of following these different phases that was just uh mentioned, uh we would we would be looking um and there is some variance um [4:57:01, 4:57:21]: one way or the other on this, um, but conservatively, as I understand that Heather was estimating uh the end of August uh would be a realistic time frame if we went with the traditional uh bidding process. The other option that was proposed to us was the construction manager at risk option. And I will let Heather speak to that specifically for any questions. [4:57:21, 4:57:22]: Yeah. [4:57:22, 4:57:28]: But essentially with that we could cut down the uh construction time on the project. Um [4:57:29, 4:57:37]: by nearly a month, if we were to go this route. And there are pros and cons, uh, which again I will allow Heather to uh share with you. [4:57:37, 4:57:43]: Uh from a cost standpoint, uh we're seeking$165,175. [4:57:43, 4:57:46]: uh funding source would be at the police be out of the police bond. [4:57:46, 4:57:48]: uh to uh [4:57:48, 4:57:59]: consult with or or work with TSW to prepare the uh renderings, the design development, construction documents, and assist us with that process. [4:58:01, 4:58:02]: Any questions? [4:58:03, 4:58:04]: Yeah. [4:58:05, 4:58:14]: It let me ask you, is there a difference in the cost factor, whatever fate what if whiche the way we go with the the the timeline? Is there a difference in the cost at all? [4:58:15, 4:58:23]: No, I don't believe there is, Heather, and and I don't want to misspeak, but based on our conversations, I believe that those are essentially going to be the same. We may [4:58:23, 4:58:33]: um um be able to get some of that funding back if we go to construction manager at risk, but as it stands right now, uh it would be this price either way. [4:58:34, 4:58:35]: You want to speak to that, Helen? [4:58:36, 4:58:56]: That is that is correct. Um, so the if CM at risk was taken on, um the consultant that would be affected would be our cost consultant, ADE. Um, you should be familiar with them. They're doing the um art center, they're gonna be doing the park system plan. [4:58:56, 4:59:00]: Um but pending how [4:59:00, 4:59:02]: And if CM at risk comes on board. [4:59:03, 4:59:04]: Their [4:59:05, 4:59:08]: Work scope would change from creating [4:59:08, 4:59:09]: Um [4:59:10, 4:59:13]: cost estimates to just reviewing. [4:59:14, 4:59:25]: Um and if that's the route that is taken, um I have I have made Chief a promise that at that time we'll provide uh a deduct. [4:59:26, 4:59:32]: professional feedback for that to the city. Um and not knowing if that's the way the city's gonna take and when that [4:59:33, 4:59:34]: Uh, see him at risk. [4:59:34, 4:59:36]: Would become a board. I can't [4:59:37, 4:59:42]: give you a specific amount of money. Uh, but I am promising you all that um [4:59:43, 4:59:43]: Uh huh. [4:59:43, 4:59:45]: If at all possible [4:59:45, 4:59:49]: The sooner seam at risk gets on board will provide a deduct. [4:59:50, 4:59:51]: professional feedback to see. [4:59:52, 4:59:57]: Sounds good to me personally, but we'll see what everybody else is thinking. Uh was it that two men for ten you want to [4:59:58, 5:00:01]: Mayer, if you don't mind, I'd like to add on to the discussion. [5:00:02, 5:00:03]: Um [5:00:04, 5:00:05]: The only concern I have [5:00:05, 5:00:11]: And I think construction manager at risk would help us on the on the back end as far as uh [5:00:11, 5:00:13]: shortening up the time to [5:00:14, 5:00:14]: Um [5:00:15, 5:00:21]: Get them under contract to to do the project. I do I do have a concern that [5:00:22, 5:00:29]: uh on the front end, how long it would take us to go through a procurement step, the procurement process to bring a construction manager. [5:00:29, 5:00:35]: on board. I'm not saying I have a solution for that tonight. Uh I've just started the discussions with [5:00:36, 5:00:40]: А вот Чиф Траймер тоді. [5:00:40, 5:00:45]: And I wanna look at some maybe some other procurement options with the procurement department regarding [5:00:46, 5:00:52]: uh parts of this project. So before we land on how we're gonna deliver the construction, I I wouldn't [5:00:52, 5:00:54]: Рекоменда um [5:00:55, 5:00:58]: The Heather and Chief and I talk a little bit more about that. [5:00:58, 5:01:04]: And get with the the with the uh procurement department to come up with a a plan to actually deliver the construction. [5:01:05, 5:01:11]: Uh the the biggest problem is is this is a very short timeline to get a construction project designed. [5:01:11, 5:01:20]: and bid and then constructed. Um it's it feels very, very tight to me. And you can see that Heather's uh they're [5:01:20, 5:01:22]: schedule was was quite long. [5:01:23, 5:01:32]: I just wanna get sold on whether or not the construction manager at risk is gonna buy us the time we need or maybe there's some other procurement processes that we can explore. [5:01:33, 5:01:37]: uh to do that to get this project done as quickly as the chief needs it done. [5:01:38, 5:01:48]: Okay, thank you. Uh was that Mayor Pro Tem were you next, sir? You speaking? Yeah. Yes. The follow up question that I would have is Chief, is it absolutely necessary for [5:01:49, 5:01:52]: The building to be one hundred percent complete on July first. [5:01:52, 5:01:55]: Uh would that additional time be beneficial? [5:01:56, 5:01:58]: To making sure that the project was done. [5:01:58, 5:02:00]: A hundred percent correct. [5:02:02, 5:02:08]: Yeah, it it doesn't have to be completely finished. And that's what Carl and I were speaking of earlier today. Uh the city has [5:02:08, 5:02:12]: As I understand and Mr. Wiggins, you can probably speak to this the [5:02:12, 5:02:18]: Um a construction company that they were uh contracting with previously that was going to do the [5:02:18, 5:02:30]: um addition in the lower level of City Hall that you all were talking of earlier, uh, there may be a way that that we could potentially utilize them for the renovation portion of the first level. [5:02:30, 5:02:35]: And then we could uh work on building out that second level, that unfinished space. [5:02:36, 5:02:41]: Um as we're occupying the facility. So we could approach this as a phase route. It's our hope that [5:02:41, 5:03:00]: we can, you know, get most of it done, if not all of it, before we move in. But uh we were discussing that in in, you know, either way, uh we're gonna we're gonna make do and we're gonna get into that building one way or the other. But uh that there is the possibility that we can break this up into two separate projects. [5:03:01, 5:03:08]: Right. My my point being is that it might be beneficial in order to do that because as Carl was stating. [5:03:08, 5:03:14]: Uh there might be s you know, you never know with these construction projects. There might be some additional time that's [5:03:14, 5:03:21]: that we've seen uh from these projects due to what what you know it's inside, but it might be weather, whatever the case might be. [5:03:22, 5:03:24]: But um I just want to make sure that [5:03:24, 5:03:28]: We're delivering to these officers what they deserve. [5:03:28, 5:03:32]: in the time frame, even if it takes a few extra days in order to do that. [5:03:34, 5:03:40]: Yeah, we certainly don't want to circumvent or or cut any corners and uh sacrifice. [5:03:40, 5:03:45]: Um, you know, the the quality that certainly will not happen, but um [5:03:45, 5:03:57]: I think that being the first level, we're just looking at, you know, renovations that perhaps maybe we could get to work on that um sooner than later. I did speak with uh Chief Amberman of Henry County. They're prepared to move out. [5:03:57, 5:04:03]: Um as soon as February first. So February first I believe they'll be out of the building so we'll have it available. [5:04:03, 5:04:08]: uh to begin doing whatever we need to do. But uh Carl and I will have some additional discussions. [5:04:08, 5:04:11]: And uh actually he and Heather and I are looking at [5:04:11, 5:04:18]: sinking up next week to go over and look at the space again and and to put our hands together and see what solutions we can come up with. [5:04:18, 5:04:23]: So you need from us the ability to just approve this and then you all can work out. [5:04:23, 5:04:26]: The rest of the details amongst yourselves. [5:04:26, 5:04:27]: That's correct. [5:04:28, 5:04:35]: Right. Okay. All right. Thank you. Stand by for a second. Mr. Thomas, you had you're unmuted. Do you have something to say, sir? [5:04:35, 5:04:38]: No, I'm good. anybody else? Any other comments? [5:04:39, 5:04:42]: All right, Mayor Proton, go ahead. You I think you want to do something here. [5:04:42, 5:04:55]: Yeah, I want to make a motion to uh what what we suggested, which was building in the extra time to it to do it in phases and do it 100% correct uh delivering uh on the best possible project. [5:04:56, 5:04:57]: So [5:04:58, 5:05:05]: Okay. Uh I've heard Mr. Thomas's voice there. I heard Mr. Thomas' voice. Any further discussion? If not, all in favor, please indicate. [5:05:06, 5:05:07]: Is it [5:05:07, 5:05:21]: Is it okay unanimous decision? Okay, fantastic. All right, for what we have next was a council consideration for the speed bunts for Winslow Eagles Landing at Eagles Landing. And I'm gonna start this off with Mr. Aaron, please. [5:05:22, 5:05:34]: Yes, Ms. Mayor. Um the City of Stockbridge currently has a speed hump policy that requires a simple majority to install speed humps. It's 51%. It's not a [5:05:34, 5:05:44]: supermajority like a lot of other places that requires two thirds of the residents. We received a petition from the residents in uh Winslow's Eagles Landing. [5:05:44, 5:05:47]: And sixteen percent of the residents responded to [5:05:48, 5:05:51]: The petition, but the petition requires fifty one percent. [5:05:51, 5:05:53]: For it to be approved. [5:05:53, 5:05:55]: according to the city's bead harm policy. [5:05:57, 5:06:00]: Okay. Yes, sir. [5:06:00, 5:06:04]: Okay, it's been a long day already. I live in the community. [5:06:04, 5:06:09]: I can't drive through the community and talk to anybody without dealing with this particular process. [5:06:09, 5:06:13]: Uh and I think uh the requirement is very cumbersome. [5:06:14, 5:06:15]: You know, it requires [5:06:15, 5:06:19]: Uh, fifty percent of a neighborhood with three hundred and nine homes and [5:06:19, 5:06:39]: You know, maybe 35 or 40 percent of rentals. So it's a monumental task. It's absolutely necessary. So I think the city should move forward uh with the uh speed bumps on the western side of Winbrook Drive to make sure that these residents stay safe. There's trucks cutting through there, the school bus. [5:06:39, 5:06:59]: is cutting through there because we understand the city had nothing to do with this project, but we have the utmost responsibility to make sure it's safe. So I would like to go ahead and make a motion that we move forward with the speed bumps as recommended that these residents have requested on Winbrook Drive West. [5:07:00, 5:07:15]: All right. Well you realize that we're going against our own policy though. You realize that. I I I certainly do. But in the end, it's it's a rec the policy is a recommendation. It's not a uh it is the council's the will to do that. And that this point we need to move forward with it. [5:07:16, 5:07:21]: We'll be setting a new precedent, by the way. I just wanted to make make that known. Is there a second to the motion? [5:07:21, 5:07:30]: Mayor Ford, I want to ask Mayor Pro Tin Alexander. I'm very much aware of the situation in this subdivision. [5:07:30, 5:07:32]: I wanted to ask him if he would include. [5:07:33, 5:07:33]: Well. [5:07:33, 5:07:36]: First, let me ask Mr. H Aaron. [5:07:36, 5:07:40]: Is it appropriate to also add no cut through signs? [5:07:42, 5:07:44]: Those yes, yes ma'am, we [5:07:45, 5:07:57]: We had put some out earlier, but just like a lot of other things, people look at signs, they don't really pay attention to certain signs, just like the no-cut through at City Hall, you still have people. So [5:07:58, 5:08:02]: is the ones that gonna obey the law, gonna obey the law, those are that are not or not. [5:08:03, 5:08:13]: And then on July 1st, we'll have the chief have set up the car in there. Then they got the sign and they see the sign. But again, I want to go ahead and make a motion to move forward with this. [5:08:13, 5:08:14]: Waving the city. [5:08:15, 5:08:18]: uh policy at this time to move forward with this. [5:08:18, 5:08:22]: to do what's appropriate in this unique urgent circumstance. [5:08:22, 5:08:24]: Maybe ma'am. [5:08:25, 5:08:30]: Oh I'm sorry. I'll wait for the second first before I okay. Is there a second to your motion? [5:08:33, 5:08:51]: I was asking if you can amend your motion to include the no cut-through sign. Oh, certainly. Yes. Let's add that to the motion. Amend the motion based on what I just said and add the cut through signs. And then again, the chief, we need somebody in there to enforce this once we get it get up get it up under us. [5:08:53, 5:08:55]: Okay. Is there a second to the motion? [5:08:56, 5:09:00]: I second. Okay, Ms. Barber seconds that. Okay, Ms. Gantt, go ahead, please. [5:09:00, 5:09:05]: Okay, I have a question. So we don't have 51%. [5:09:05, 5:09:09]: Yeah. Is that what we is that what we're saying? Yes, right. We don't [5:09:10, 5:09:25]: And is there a reason that they attempt to get everyone in the neighborhood? Because I I totally understand that that campground road and the busyness of that, but I have a concern. I mean, I would think that everybody in that subdivision will want to sign this. [5:09:26, 5:09:27]: And if not [5:09:27, 5:09:30]: I don't believe in going against the policy. [5:09:31, 5:09:32]: That we presented. [5:09:33, 5:09:37]: Well we're getting ready. Have we heard some people that are against it? [5:09:37, 5:09:46]: I mean, I I just need to know, I think we need to abide by our our policies. I'm not against this at all. I agree. [5:09:46, 5:09:58]: But I can't I did what I didn't know is, and I actually put it in the email, let's just call for the vote. Everybody knows that this I thought the petition had over 51, I mean had 51%. [5:09:58, 5:10:02]: No, it doesn't. But if it doesn't, I don't want to go against our policy. [5:10:02, 5:10:16]: So is there a re did we cut it short? Is there someone here who can tell me who won who was the person that went out to get the position petitions and why isn't it more than 51%? What what's the problem? [5:10:16, 5:10:29]: The issue is it requires 50% of the entire subdivision, and the subdivision now has been cut in half. On my side of the subdivision, it doesn't affect us at all. [5:10:29, 5:10:49]: Because there's no traffic coming through my side of the subdivision. The side of the subdivision that they're on has fewer homes, but all the cars are coming through their side of the subdivision. What they did was they got the signatures on their side of the subdivision because it affected them, because Wembrook Drive is now cutting. [5:10:49, 5:10:53]: in half campground comes across comes through the subdivision. [5:10:53, 5:10:57]: uh on our side, but the majority of the homes that live on my side. [5:10:57, 5:11:17]: No, I don't even have to go out that way ever because I can take campgrounds and leave my side of the subdivision. So they were hamstrucked by the re other side of the residents, really didn't care because they don't have to deal with that because they don't have to have to go out that side. So those those people they tried to get signatures on the other side and they wouldn't. [5:11:17, 5:11:20]: wouldn't sign it? Is that what's going on? [5:11:20, 5:11:27]: They they attempted to go out to the rest of the subdivision to do what they do, but understanding what we're dealing with. [5:11:27, 5:11:47]: Most half of the 40% of the residents are renters. They don't care whether you do it or not. They don't own the property. They rent here as we're dealing with in the city. So they were facing that uphill challenge. But what I can say is that they got 50% of the residents on Winbrook Drive, the people that actually use it. [5:11:47, 5:11:57]: use the road and they use it every day on their side of the subdivision, they got over 50% of those residents who use the road who are in danger. [5:11:57, 5:12:06]: getting out into traffic on on a regular basis because trucks come whizzing through there, cars come whizzing through there on a regular basis. And those residents [5:12:07, 5:12:27]: Will tell you if we had to go until 1215 at night, a Benito Seabolt was going to be on here and Yvette Davis was going to be on here telling us about how the dangers that they face every day in the community. So here we are. So yes, I've asked for a waiver to waive the city policy in order to move this forward because of this extraneous. [5:12:27, 5:12:41]: Circumstances of again, more of the homes live on my side of the subdivision. They have very few homes, and they did garner the signature of most of the residents on the street itself. [5:12:42, 5:12:44]: Where is anybody? [5:12:44, 5:12:46]: Besides you, Councilman Alexander. [5:12:47, 5:13:04]: representing or speaking for this, I saw I I hear what you're saying. I don't want to go against the policy, but I agree with you. I think it's absolute I I don't go there often enough, but when I did go, I it was just unbelievable the split. [5:13:04, 5:13:06]: Uh of the subdivision. [5:13:07, 5:13:09]: Um I I don't like it. [5:13:10, 5:13:10]: Um [5:13:11, 5:13:15]: What I but my biggest concern is. [5:13:17, 5:13:18]: You know [5:13:19, 5:13:23]: When at what point and when do we make exceptions to the rules? [5:13:23, 5:13:30]: I'm asking for a waiver of the rules under an extra circumstance. I don't anticipate. [5:13:30, 5:13:36]: A road being cut through the middle of any other subdivision and stock bridge because we would have control over that. [5:13:36, 5:13:37]: And we would never do that. [5:13:38, 5:13:40]: These residents have suffered enough. [5:13:40, 5:13:44]: I know that because I live here and I see them every day. [5:13:44, 5:13:58]: And I understand when a child has to cross that road to get to the swimming pool, risking their safety, it matters. And then then cars zooming up and down this road. They were prepared to say exactly what I'm saying now. [5:13:58, 5:14:03]: If we hadn't went to twelve fifteen at night. So I'm calling for the vote. [5:14:05, 5:14:07]: Well they they're prepared. [5:14:08, 5:14:12]: They would have said it during public comments, right? At the beginning of the meeting. [5:14:12, 5:14:20]: Well, what I was prepared to do was not make the presentation, but to take my time and allow one of them to speak. And they had agreed to do that. [5:14:20, 5:14:22]: So I was gonna turn [5:14:22, 5:14:27]: Wait for say a few words and then I was gonna turn the complete thing over to them because like I said. [5:14:27, 5:14:31]: I don't live on that side of the neighborhood. It has zero effect on me. [5:14:32, 5:14:43]: Because I don't have to take that side. I can take campground and go anywhere I want to go. So I might see that once a month if I'm going to Eagles Landing Middle School or Flipping Middle School. My kids aren't in school now. [5:14:44, 5:14:47]: I think the uh a campground road. [5:14:47, 5:14:49]: The type of road it is. [5:14:49, 5:14:51]: going through a subdivision. [5:14:51, 5:14:58]: is absolutely hideous. And I do think this is an extrangit ex I think this is a special circumstance. [5:14:59, 5:14:59]: I do. [5:15:00, 5:15:02]: And it may be something new. [5:15:02, 5:15:04]: It may be a new policy set. [5:15:05, 5:15:13]: Um, you know, laws do change, policies could change, and this may be a very good example of it. [5:15:13, 5:15:23]: But I I you know, I wanna make sure that we abide by our policies and rules and regulations. However, I totally understand this situation. I really do. [5:15:23, 5:15:27]: Um, I wish I would know the actual percentage of the people. [5:15:27, 5:15:35]: on that side particular side. I know you said it was overwhelmingly overwhelmingly more than 50%. Um [5:15:36, 5:15:38]: From that particular side. [5:15:38, 5:15:42]: Uh because it does. It pretty much splits that subdivision into two. [5:15:42, 5:15:46]: Um and so with that I I will support it. [5:15:47, 5:15:48]: Any other comments? [5:15:49, 5:15:56]: Before the record, Mayor, sir. Cut through signs were installed on July 2nd in 2020. [5:15:57, 5:16:07]: I don't know. I ain't seen'em. Oh well, there there is one on the front side. It says no trucks. It does not say all traffic. It just says no trucks. But they do it anyway. Yeah. [5:16:09, 5:16:29]: Mr. Thomas, go ahead, sir. Yeah, I I would agree. Uh, under the circumstances, I know I know there's a policy in place, but sometimes we have to look past that. I think when it comes to the safety of our citizens, in particular the kids, and I didn't know this before, Mayor Pro Tem, about the kids. [5:16:29, 5:16:36]: Is having to cross the street to get to the swimming pool. I think with those kind of circumstances, I think we have to um [5:16:37, 5:16:38]: vote in favor of this. [5:16:38, 5:16:39]: All right. [5:16:40, 5:16:42]: All right, all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [5:16:42, 5:16:43]: Uh [5:16:43, 5:16:59]: That's an unanimous decision. All right. So Mr. Mr. Aaron, uh, so I guess you got the mission now to go out there and um I don't know how how many how uh well I guess it's in the policy, how many feet of they're apart from one another, things of that nature. So you gotta go out there and analyze that and and get that installed. [5:17:00, 5:17:01]: All right. Yes, sir. All right. [5:17:01, 5:17:11]: Appreciate it. Okay. On that note, believe it or not, I have some comments, right? COVID 19 still among us. Matter of fact, they say this Omicron. Omicron variant is now out there. [5:17:12, 5:17:12]: I'll be done. [5:17:13, 5:17:14]: This doggone thing won't die. [5:17:15, 5:17:35]: All right. So anyway, so we still got COVID nineteen folks. We still gotta be careful. Still still gotta wear your mask, wash your hands, watch your distance, and get your vaccination. You gotta get a vaccination. Unfortunately, uh, we're right now in the state of Georgia, we are uh struggling about fifty-one percent across the state with uh people fully vaccinated. [5:17:35, 5:17:55]: And I think 58% what people um only with one doses of this vaccination. And CDC says, hey, get your booster shot as soon as possible. It's available. Supposedly it's good to go for anybody 18 or over to get a booster shot. And a little tad bit, take a flu shot too while you're at it. Get that out the way as well. [5:17:55, 5:18:00]: We are one end of the winner here shortly this aspect. Um [5:18:00, 5:18:07]: So I'll I'll just stop at that point, but uh we know we've been down this road. Uh one other thing, darn it. [5:18:07, 5:18:24]: We still got free COVID-19 testing in Red Hawk Field at uh on Henry Parkway, Monday to Friday, 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. And you want a vaccination course Department of Health uh at 135 uh Henry Parkway in Madonna, 800-847. Um [5:18:25, 5:18:40]: 4622, I believe that is. Okay. And then state of the state of department, uh the the State Department of Health, 888-7 uh 457-0186. And you call them and they'll tell you where you can get a vaccination taken care of. [5:18:40, 5:18:48]: On that note, let's go to the two uh announcements. Um planning commission meeting at 6:30 p.m. via Zoom, the revised meeting. [5:18:48, 5:18:50]: Date is going to be December second. [5:18:51, 5:18:57]: 6 30. U council meeting 5 30 by way of Zoom, second Wednesday of each month, uh December eighth. [5:19:00, 5:19:20]: Main Street Advisory Board meeting is second fire Friday of each month, 9 a.m. uh December 10th. It's by way of Zoom. The city council meeting and board hearing, budget hearing. I'm saying final adoption, 6 p.m. on the second day of the month, which is December 13th, which will be our first day where we have we're back in our chambers. [5:19:20, 5:19:40]: After a year plus year and a half, almost a year and three quarters. So December 13th in the chambers. And of course, just as we open up the buildings to the public last Monday, mass will be required, temperature checks will be required, and we'll separate people as best as possible, six feet or several seats apart from one. [5:19:40, 5:20:00]: another and the council along with the attorneys and the city and the city clerk will have uh uh plastic um or berries uh between us to keep us all safe in this aspect so december thirteenth in the chambers for the very first time in in a long time downtown author uh downtown development authority meeting six p.m by way of zoom third two [5:20:00, 5:20:20]: Tuesday of East Month on December 21st is that meeting. And youth council and violatory meeting, 630 by way of Zoom, second Tuesday, excuse me, third Tuesday of East Month, which is December 21st as well. And um it says in City Hall, but it's by way of Zoom. But anyway, youth council advisory meeting, but we'll say Zoom here. Planning Commission meeting, 630 by way of Zoom. [5:20:20, 5:20:26]: Zoom revised meeting schedule as on actually on the 16th of December for the Planning Commission meeting. [5:20:26, 5:20:31]: And please join uh Councilwoman Barber and Barbar Minus Conference Center for a free Zuma fitness. [5:20:32, 5:20:33]: Uh in the park. [5:20:33, 5:20:36]: Saturdays eight AM. Yes, ma'am. [5:20:36, 5:20:38]: That location has changed. [5:20:38, 5:20:47]: It's cold, so we've moved it to Eagles Landing Dance Center. That's at 627 Red Oak Road in Stockwell. [5:20:47, 5:20:56]: Okay, good deal. We'll make that appropriate change uh for the monthly updates uh uh in this aspect and annual holiday festival. [5:20:56, 5:20:58]: It's Thursday, December second. [5:20:58, 5:21:02]: Okay, five PM to nine p.m. at Meromana's Copper Center. [5:21:02, 5:21:20]: Outside in the out it'd be outside actually at 111 Davis Road and uh get a chance to see Santa and Mrs. Claus and Crystal Snow Princess and some live animals and reindeers and get into holiday festival uh spirit. On that note, I need motion to to uh adjourn our meeting. [5:21:22, 5:21:26]: So move. So move. Mr. Thomas, I guess you second that. [5:21:27, 5:21:31]: Well I I had a quick comment, but go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. [5:21:32, 5:21:45]: What's going on, sir? Well, I I just want to uh take this opportunity to thank all of the veterans that submitted that profile. Uh it was an honor for me to be able to uh recognize them and honor them. And because of [5:21:45, 5:22:05]: veterans are still asking can they submit profile. I just wanted to say that we will continue uh this on a monthly basis. So please uh submit your profile, your pictures, and and we will continue this process. Thanks to all of the veterans. And I appreciate that, sir. I appreciate it, sir. Since I'm a 30-year veteran, thank you very much. I appreciate your [5:22:05, 5:22:16]: your service to the veterans and to the city. Thank you for your service. All right, no problem. Okay. Mayor Pro 10, you made a motion. Councilman Thomas, you second that motion motion. All right. Good deal. [5:22:17, 5:22:18]: All in fair motion, please indicate. [5:22:19, 5:22:27]: Yes. All right. Good night. Good night. Good night. Sleep good. I'm out of you. Indeed.

--- title: Main Street Advisory Board Meeting date: 2021-11-19 source: 2021-11-19_Main_Street_Advisory_Board_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:03, 0:00:04]: Okay. [0:00:13, 0:00:30]: All right, good morning everyone. I am going to go on and get the meeting started. As I mentioned in the email reminder to everyone, there is a ribbon cutting that has been scheduled for today. It's not one that we planned. [0:00:30, 0:00:35]: Um, but we have been asked as Main Street staff to be there. [0:00:35, 0:00:37]: Um that is for a downtown business. [0:00:37, 0:00:40]: Um the funnel cake heaven. [0:00:40, 0:00:48]: And so um I want to make sure that we have some representation from the Main Street staff. And if there are any board members. [0:00:48, 0:00:51]: Who are able to get over there just to say hello. [0:00:52, 0:00:55]: Um, we would really appreciate that as well. [0:00:55, 0:00:59]: So I'm going to go on and call the meeting to order. [0:00:59, 0:01:03]: Um for our chair, um, both archair and vice chair. [0:01:03, 0:01:06]: Um are not able to be here. [0:01:06, 0:01:11]: Um our vi our chair person, Anika Potts, had um a work. [0:01:11, 0:01:14]: engagement that she could not o that was unavoidable. [0:01:15, 0:01:16]: And um [0:01:16, 0:01:17]: Oh wait a minute. [0:01:18, 0:01:22]: And um Mr. Hopkins is actually um [0:01:23, 0:01:25]: not able to attend as well. [0:01:25, 0:01:25]: So [0:01:26, 0:01:28]: Um, I'm going to start. [0:01:28, 0:01:29]: With our [0:01:30, 0:01:31]: Roll call. [0:01:31, 0:01:32]: Uh [0:01:32, 0:01:38]: Rocio Camacho, she actually has contacted me. She is out of the country at this time. [0:01:38, 0:01:40]: Um prayer Finley. [0:01:41, 0:01:41]: Present. [0:01:42, 0:01:43]: Shamari Firch. [0:01:44, 0:01:45]: Present. [0:01:46, 0:01:47]: Vanessa Gepsi. [0:01:51, 0:01:52]: Willie Hopkins. [0:01:55, 0:01:56]: Greg Horton. [0:01:57, 0:01:58]: Present. [0:01:59, 0:02:00]: Linda Jones. [0:02:01, 0:02:02]: Present. [0:02:02, 0:02:06]: Anika Potts is not here. Mildred Reed present. [0:02:08, 0:02:09]: Barber Richardson. [0:02:11, 0:02:14]: I thought I saw Barber. Oh yeah. [0:02:15, 0:02:15]: Thank you. [0:02:17, 0:02:19]: And then Alfonso Thomas. [0:02:23, 0:02:24]: Okay. [0:02:26, 0:02:27]: Yeah. [0:02:27, 0:02:29]: That is our attendance. [0:02:29, 0:02:31]: Um, Lisa. [0:02:31, 0:02:36]: If you are still on the line, can you please um resend? [0:02:36, 0:02:38]: Um a link to [0:02:38, 0:02:43]: Mr. Hopkins, it seems he just texted me and seems that he's trying to [0:02:43, 0:02:45]: Get on the [0:02:45, 0:02:47]: Um link. [0:02:47, 0:02:50]: Yes. Can I send him the same one I used? [0:02:50, 0:02:53]: Just go on and send that one so he can get in. [0:02:53, 0:02:54]: Okay. [0:02:54, 0:02:57]: Um, it might have your name on it as well. [0:02:58, 0:02:59]: But we don't know that [0:03:00, 0:03:02]: It's improperly labeled if it does go to here. [0:03:03, 0:03:04]: And it has your name on it. [0:03:05, 0:03:06]: Do I send it to the um [0:03:08, 0:03:09]: Cap a hop. [0:03:09, 0:03:10]: Yes. [0:03:10, 0:03:10]: Okay. [0:03:11, 0:03:12]: Thank you. [0:03:12, 0:03:13]: Yep, you're welcome. [0:03:13, 0:03:20]: Okay, and now we get to the meeting of our mission reading of our mission statement, and I'll go on and do that for us. [0:03:20, 0:03:24]: The Stockbridge Main Street program's mission is to design and support [0:03:25, 0:03:28]: an identifiable down identifiable downtown district. [0:03:28, 0:03:30]: Де промотц економік вitality. [0:03:31, 0:03:33]: Cultivates artistic expression. [0:03:33, 0:03:37]: Encourages cultural enrichment and nurtures community spirit. [0:03:38, 0:03:42]: As I told you all, we're gonna have a condensed um very quick [0:03:42, 0:03:44]: Um meeting. [0:03:44, 0:03:47]: So we'll go through our agenda pretty quickly to allow for [0:03:47, 0:03:50]: Um staff and board members to get to [0:03:50, 0:03:51]: The funnel cake. [0:03:51, 0:03:54]: having ribbon cutting if any board members are. [0:03:54, 0:03:56]: available to attend. [0:03:56, 0:04:00]: So let's go to the review and approval of our meeting agenda. [0:04:00, 0:04:04]: You all should have received that, and I'll give you all a few moments too. [0:04:04, 0:04:07]: Um review over it just in case you need a few moments. [0:04:12, 0:04:14]: There's Mr. Hopkins coming in. [0:04:15, 0:04:18]: Please note that Mr. Hopkins is joining the meeting. [0:04:20, 0:04:22]: Good morning. Good morning. I apologize for being talking. Good morning. [0:04:23, 0:04:24]: I couldn't find the link this morning. [0:04:25, 0:04:26]: That's okay. [0:04:27, 0:04:28]: How are you feeling this morning? [0:04:29, 0:04:35]: I'm on the road to recovery. Uh I'm just glad the doctors found that blood clot. So, you know. [0:04:36, 0:04:39]: Oh, everybody didn't know about that. [0:04:41, 0:04:42]: You scare me. [0:04:42, 0:04:44]: Yeah. Well you know. Are you coming along? [0:04:45, 0:04:51]: Yeah, a little bit. I'm still having a problem with my lower leg, but um they found a blood clot on the back on the back of my calf, so [0:04:51, 0:04:55]: Um, they got me on medication now, so I feel a whole lot better, but I'm still in a lot of pain. [0:04:55, 0:04:58]: Yeah, well I'm glad they caught that. [0:04:58, 0:05:00]: I sure would have missed you if anything went wrong. [0:05:00, 0:05:02]: I know that's right. [0:05:05, 0:05:18]: Well, Mr. Hopkins as Vice Chair, are you able to um resume um leading the meeting for us? Absolutely. Absolutely. Okay, we're at the re review and approval of the meeting agenda. [0:05:18, 0:05:23]: So um we've given everybody some time to review. So you can take it from there, sir. [0:05:23, 0:05:43]: Outstanding. Thank you, Madam Uh Director. Good morning again, everybody. I apologize for my tartiness. Uh at this present time. According to the director, everybody had an opportunity to review the agenda that was set forth. I asked at this time, what's your pleasure in uh accepting the uh agenda? [0:05:47, 0:05:52]: Mr. Vice Chair, I move we uh approve the agenda as as presented. [0:05:53, 0:06:05]: Thank you, sir. Okay. Thank you, Greg. And thank you, Ms. Richardson. It's been moved by Mr. Horton and second by Ms. Richardson to approve the agenda as presented. Are there any discussion at this time? [0:06:06, 0:06:10]: Hearing none, uh all in favor, manifested by [0:06:10, 0:06:13]: Raising your hand, uh I don't see who all in here see. [0:06:14, 0:06:21]: Um I'll call the names that I see that's on here and then we'll go from there, Miss uh, Miss Reed. [0:06:25, 0:06:30]: You're on mute. Okay. She waved. I guess that's her. I waved my hand because I was doing a couple of things. Okay. Okay. [0:06:31, 0:06:34]: Okay. All right. Uh Miss Miss Richardson. [0:06:35, 0:06:36]: Yes. [0:06:37, 0:06:39]: Mr. Horton? Yes. [0:06:39, 0:06:40]: Miss Finley? [0:06:41, 0:06:42]: Yes. [0:06:42, 0:06:43]: Mr. Furch. [0:06:44, 0:06:45]: Yes. [0:06:46, 0:06:46]: Miss Jones. [0:06:48, 0:06:48]: Yes. [0:06:49, 0:06:50]: And myself [0:06:51, 0:06:51]: Uh [0:06:52, 0:06:56]: Yes. All opposed? I think that's all I see at this present time. [0:06:56, 0:06:57]: All opposed. [0:07:02, 0:07:03]: Good morning, Willie. [0:07:03, 0:07:04]: Hey, Midjon. [0:07:06, 0:07:09]: Approved. The agenda has been approved unanimously. [0:07:09, 0:07:11]: Thank you, good folks. I appreciate that. [0:07:11, 0:07:12]: Uh [0:07:12, 0:07:26]: The next on the item is roll call and I'll um I already did roll call. Okay, I'm behind the career. I'm behind the career. So you can go straight into the uh review of the minutes. Okay, outstanding. [0:07:26, 0:07:27]: Um [0:07:28, 0:07:40]: The November minutes, uh no, no, October minutes has been disseminated via the email. Uh, think everybody had an opportunity to take a look at those uh for any correction or any misspelling at the present time. Um [0:07:41, 0:07:45]: At this time I'll ask uh what's your pleasure in in in in approving the [0:07:46, 0:07:50]: October twenty twenty-one um minutes for the Main Street board. [0:07:59, 0:08:02]: I'll move we approve the minutes as presented. [0:08:02, 0:08:03]: Thank you, Mr Horne. [0:08:07, 0:08:08]: In about a second that. [0:08:09, 0:08:10]: A certain [0:08:10, 0:08:11]: Thank you, Ms. Ree. [0:08:12, 0:08:14]: It's been probably moved and probably second. [0:08:15, 0:08:27]: Um approved by moved by Mr. Horton and properly seconded by Ms. Reed that we accept the October 2021 minutes as presented. Are there any discussions at this time in reference to those minutes? Uh any corrections to those minutes? [0:08:30, 0:08:37]: Hearing none, uh, I'll call the roll call um for your favor. Uh I say yes, Willie Hopkins, Ms. Reed. [0:08:38, 0:08:38]: Yes. [0:08:39, 0:08:42]: Thank you. Mr. Holden? Yes. [0:08:42, 0:08:43]: Miss Richardson? [0:08:44, 0:08:44]: Abstain. [0:08:45, 0:08:47]: Couldn't you? Okay. [0:08:48, 0:08:50]: I was absent that meeting. Okay. [0:08:52, 0:08:53]: Miss Finley? [0:08:53, 0:08:54]: Yes. [0:08:55, 0:08:55]: Mr. Furch. [0:08:56, 0:08:58]: Yes. Ms. Jones. [0:09:02, 0:09:03]: Yes. [0:09:04, 0:09:10]: Okay, the October 21 uh minutes have been uh uh approved with one abstention involved. [0:09:10, 0:09:13]: So uh at this present time we go ahead on with the uh [0:09:14, 0:09:15]: Next part of our agenda. [0:09:16, 0:09:30]: That would be the financial statements. Um, everybody had the opportunity, those financial statements went out at the same time the minutes was. Uh, hope everybody had the opportunity to review those uh financials at this present time. Are they um [0:09:31, 0:09:36]: I'll ask you what's your pledge at this time to approve the 20 October 2021 financials? [0:09:42, 0:09:48]: Um Sir Chair, I move that we accept the financial statements as written. [0:09:48, 0:09:50]: Thank you, Ms. Ree. Do we have a second? [0:09:50, 0:09:51]: A second. [0:09:52, 0:09:53]: Uh thank you, Mr. Furch. [0:09:55, 0:09:59]: It's been properly moved and properly seconded by Ms. Reed and Mr. Firch. [0:09:59, 0:10:04]: um to approve the October 2021 minutes. Are there any discussion at this time? [0:10:05, 0:10:07]: In reference to those uh financials. [0:10:09, 0:10:13]: Hearing none, Willie Hopkins, yes, Ms. Reed. [0:10:14, 0:10:15]: Yes. [0:10:16, 0:10:17]: Mr. Horton. [0:10:18, 0:10:18]: Yes. [0:10:19, 0:10:20]: Miss Finley? [0:10:21, 0:10:21]: Yes. [0:10:22, 0:10:23]: Miss Jones. [0:10:26, 0:10:26]: Yes. [0:10:27, 0:10:28]: Mr. Furch. [0:10:29, 0:10:31]: Yes. Minister Richardson. [0:10:32, 0:10:32]: Yes. [0:10:33, 0:10:42]: All right. It's been uh approved by a majority vote. Thank you for your participation in those approvals of those uh minutes and those financial statements. [0:10:42, 0:10:43]: Um [0:10:44, 0:10:46]: Next on the agenda. [0:10:46, 0:11:00]: Um is our Main Street manager report and discussion at this present time. I will yield the floor and send it over to Miss Kira Brace Harris, our program, our awesome program Main Street Director for her report. [0:11:01, 0:11:07]: Thank you very much. Um, and um welcome everyone and good morning. [0:11:08, 0:11:10]: I appreciate you all being here. [0:11:10, 0:11:16]: Um, for this meeting and I apologize for us having to kind of rush through. [0:11:16, 0:11:22]: But I did want to make sure that you all were updated on several items with regard to Main Street business. [0:11:23, 0:11:28]: um housekeeping items and any announcements that we have we would handle here. [0:11:29, 0:11:29]: Um [0:11:30, 0:11:41]: As far as board terms are concerned, we discussed this at um both our September and October meetings. Um I ask for everyone to submit their statement of intent. [0:11:41, 0:11:47]: For continuing on the board. There are a few members that I have not received that information from, but your terms are not. [0:11:48, 0:11:49]: Uh for um [0:11:50, 0:11:51]: Renewal. [0:11:51, 0:11:56]: Or um termination if you're interested in um rolling off the board. [0:11:56, 0:12:08]: But up for reappointment this year are Willie Hopkins, Anika Potts, Greg Horton, and um Linda Jones. Linda, I think you're the only person that I haven't received the statement of intent from. [0:12:08, 0:12:12]: So if you could get that back to me as soon as possible. [0:12:12, 0:12:18]: Um if you're planning to continue on the um board, uh we hope you will be that already. [0:12:19, 0:12:21]: Did you submit it yes, yesterday? [0:12:21, 0:12:25]: Oh yesterday. Okay. Um I just haven't received. [0:12:25, 0:12:39]: She has it. Okay. Thank you very much. Um, so um we will be um submitting those four names for reappointment to the city council. The appointments will be made at the December 13th. [0:12:39, 0:12:41]: City Council meeting. [0:12:43, 0:12:49]: So please mark that in your calendars, the December thirteenth city council meeting. [0:12:50, 0:13:01]: And that kind of gives me a segue into the fact that City Hall is now open for meetings. Um, we've opened to the public. We had been closed for the entire um [0:13:02, 0:13:05]: Covid um pandemic um [0:13:05, 0:13:05]: M. [0:13:06, 0:13:09]: We were doing that in um extreme caution. [0:13:09, 0:13:14]: Um for the safety of the public and for the safety of our staff, city hall staff. [0:13:15, 0:13:16]: But the building has now been open. [0:13:17, 0:13:20]: So that leads me to ask the board. [0:13:20, 0:13:25]: How you all would like to proceed with regard to our meetings? [0:13:25, 0:13:28]: Um we can remain virtual. [0:13:28, 0:13:33]: Or we can um change to an in-person um meeting format. [0:13:35, 0:13:36]: And um [0:13:36, 0:13:43]: In some instances, um, a hybrid type situation is available, but unfortunately. [0:13:43, 0:13:47]: With our current setup in the Levi room, there is not really [0:13:48, 0:13:49]: Um the [0:13:49, 0:13:52]: Технології авелево фор. [0:13:53, 0:13:56]: A hybrid meeting where you could choose to either be um [0:13:57, 0:14:06]: in person or on Zoom. So it's it's kind of an all or nothing with regard to our current technology in that particular meeting room. [0:14:07, 0:14:07]: Um [0:14:08, 0:14:10]: So, I would like to hear some. [0:14:11, 0:14:14]: Quick discussion as to whether you all would like to return to [0:14:15, 0:14:17]: in person or if you would like to remain virtual. [0:14:18, 0:14:20]: Or if you would like to um [0:14:20, 0:14:27]: remain virtual for a certain period of time and then return to in-person meeting. So do we have anyone with [0:14:27, 0:14:29]: I think Miss Reed, yes, Miss Reed. [0:14:29, 0:14:42]: I would like to recommend, I thought about it immediately, that we finish this year out, because it's at the end of the year virtual, if it's okay with everyone, and then make a decision starting the first of the year as to what direction we should be heading in. [0:14:43, 0:14:45]: Okay. It's Miss Reed's [0:14:45, 0:14:47]: Suggestion to [0:14:47, 0:14:55]: Um continue until some point in next year to decide what we would like to move forward with. Is there any other discussion on that? [0:14:56, 0:14:58]: That's actually exactly what I was gonna say. [0:14:59, 0:15:02]: I like the way you said that. So yes, I agree with Miss Reed. [0:15:03, 0:15:05]: Okay, Greg, I think you raised your hand. [0:15:06, 0:15:25]: Yeah, I I I I agree with uh Miss Reed as well, uh, but making the note that it it appears that cases are on the rise again. And as I think we should review it the first of the year after everybody has gathered for the holiday to see what the situation pans out to be before we decide to meet in person again. Okay. [0:15:26, 0:15:34]: And I would even recommend that um not necessarily the January meeting, but maybe the February or March meeting so that we can see what the [0:15:35, 0:15:37]: Um results are for the um [0:15:37, 0:15:39]: Holiday as Greg has mentioned. [0:15:40, 0:15:40]: Um [0:15:41, 0:15:42]: So and the [0:15:42, 0:15:46]: Ms. Reid, would you like to frame your um suggestion in a motion? [0:15:50, 0:15:51]: You're on mute, huh? [0:15:56, 0:15:58]: A little bit. Okay, I I apologize. [0:15:59, 0:16:00]: I motion that we [0:16:01, 0:16:15]: do have the meeting for the rest of the year as virtual and sometime in January, February, March timeframe that we make a decision based on the numbers after the holiday. [0:16:15, 0:16:25]: That's a long motion, I know, but you gave me three different months. Can you narrow it down to one month for us to for February? February? Okay. [0:16:30, 0:16:34]: Really? Straighten the emotion out for me, please. [0:16:34, 0:16:35]: I got you. [0:16:35, 0:16:36]: I got you. [0:16:36, 0:16:38]: Well like that. [0:16:38, 0:16:40]: I carry that for you, Blue. I got you. [0:16:40, 0:16:42]: Okay, Mr. Hopkins. [0:16:43, 0:16:44]: All right, thank you, Madam Director. [0:16:45, 0:16:45]: Uh [0:16:46, 0:16:49]: You've heard the motion, uh the motion Ms. Reed stated was [0:16:49, 0:16:58]: Uh we uh the Main Street Board will remain virtually until the month of February. We'll assess it at that time. Uh the second in reference to that. [0:16:58, 0:16:59]: I'll second that. [0:17:01, 0:17:05]: All right, it's been moved by Miss Reed and properly second by was that Miss Jones? [0:17:07, 0:17:08]: No, Miss Finley. [0:17:08, 0:17:14]: Ms. Finley, I'm sorry. Ms. Finley, um, are there any discussion in reference to the motion at this present time? [0:17:16, 0:17:21]: Hearing none, uh I asked for a vote at this time. Will it hope and I say yes, Miss Reed. [0:17:21, 0:17:21]: Yes. [0:17:22, 0:17:24]: Uh Mr. Horton. [0:17:24, 0:17:25]: Yes. [0:17:25, 0:17:26]: Mr. Furch. [0:17:28, 0:17:30]: Yes. Miss Richardson. [0:17:31, 0:17:32]: Yes. [0:17:33, 0:17:33]: Miss Belly. [0:17:35, 0:17:36]: Yes. [0:17:36, 0:17:37]: Miss Jones. [0:17:38, 0:17:38]: Yes. [0:17:39, 0:17:42]: That motion will approve by major uh by unanimous vote. [0:17:42, 0:18:02]: Thank you for voting that. And I think um that's a great opportunity for us as well. Um to just like I said, look at those numbers to see where we are. And I think we've gotten accustomed to the virtual setting, but it's also uh gonna be pleasing to for everybody to get back together to some sense of normacy, but this may be our norm at some point in time. But [0:18:02, 0:18:04]: Thank you all so much for voting on that. [0:18:05, 0:18:07]: Okay. [0:18:07, 0:18:08]: Thank you, sir. [0:18:08, 0:18:13]: All right, um as for our update on our city projects, um [0:18:14, 0:18:17]: We do have the both the um [0:18:18, 0:18:26]: One fourteen white box pro one fourteen MLK white box project and the Ted Strickland remodel. [0:18:26, 0:18:28]: Both of those um [0:18:28, 0:18:31]: projects have gone to bed and we are in the [0:18:31, 0:18:34]: Um process f of selecting a contractor now. [0:18:35, 0:18:38]: Uh, with the Ted Strickland, we are down to the final. [0:18:38, 0:18:39]: Um [0:18:39, 0:18:46]: five bidders that are going to be considered and then with the Ted Strickland we're down to those finalists as well. [0:18:46, 0:18:50]: So we should be making a decision with regard to which contractor [0:18:50, 0:18:52]: We will be going with the do the work. [0:18:53, 0:18:56]: Um, I'm thinking by the end of next week. So after that. [0:18:56, 0:19:03]: Um, it'll just be a matter of setting up the timeline for getting both of those com projects completed. So I am very excited. [0:19:04, 0:19:09]: about the movement on those particular projects. Once it goes to fit, it moves pretty quickly. [0:19:09, 0:19:16]: It's just getting to the bid process. It takes a little bit of time, but we are moving forward with those two projects. [0:19:16, 0:19:21]: With regard to the alleyway project, um there is a meeting scheduled for [0:19:21, 0:19:22]: Um later. [0:19:22, 0:19:26]: Next week that um I'll be meeting with the engineers. [0:19:26, 0:19:30]: to um look over the tweaks that they made based on our um [0:19:31, 0:19:33]: Some of our feedback that we received. [0:19:33, 0:19:36]: And um then we'll be taking that again. [0:19:36, 0:19:38]: Um to the [0:19:38, 0:19:39]: Property [0:19:39, 0:19:40]: owners in the [0:19:40, 0:19:43]: Um that downtown area that will be impacted by those. [0:19:44, 0:19:45]: That particular project. [0:19:46, 0:19:48]: Um, also I wanted to report that. [0:19:49, 0:19:49]: The [0:19:50, 0:19:50]: Um [0:19:51, 0:19:57]: DDA, joint DDA Main Street Work Plan Committees have finally started meeting. [0:19:57, 0:20:01]: The downtown beautification and um [0:20:01, 0:20:03]: activation committee met this week. [0:20:03, 0:20:07]: And the downtown um design and connectivity. [0:20:07, 0:20:12]: Um committee they have also met this month. So we have gone over the work plan. [0:20:13, 0:20:17]: Um and when the where there has been some need for tweak that has been done. [0:20:18, 0:20:23]: And everyone has had homework assignments and they're going to be coming back to us next month. [0:20:23, 0:20:25]: Uh, for more discussion and [0:20:26, 0:20:28]: setting the task [0:20:28, 0:20:28]: Um [0:20:29, 0:20:30]: Seven um [0:20:31, 0:20:33]: Setting up our tasks, making sure that we're [0:20:33, 0:20:34]: Working [0:20:34, 0:20:37]: The work we are doing the work of the work plan. [0:20:38, 0:20:40]: And making sure that we [0:20:40, 0:20:42]: uh move those items forward. [0:20:42, 0:20:46]: In addition, um, we are going to be [0:20:46, 0:20:50]: Trying to get on the December thirteenth agenda. [0:20:50, 0:20:56]: To ask for the city council to approve our work plan. [0:20:56, 0:20:59]: And this is um something that [0:20:59, 0:21:02]: We definitely need to do. I know Greg. [0:21:02, 0:21:07]: Um, had some comments at the end of our last meeting speaking to the fact that [0:21:08, 0:21:10]: We sometimes have projects that [0:21:11, 0:21:14]: We are trying to move forward and we don't always get. [0:21:14, 0:21:20]: council approval and or council buy-in to those particular projects and things stall or [0:21:21, 0:21:22]: Get taken off the table. [0:21:22, 0:21:23]: All together. [0:21:23, 0:21:25]: And so in an effort to [0:21:26, 0:21:33]: Quail that type of situation, we are going to be taking our work plan to the city council for their approval. [0:21:33, 0:21:35]: So this is them saying, Hey. [0:21:35, 0:21:40]: We are okay with everything that you all are planning to do over the next year. [0:21:40, 0:21:43]: And years to follow to support that particular plan. [0:21:44, 0:21:47]: Um we had some council members at our [0:21:47, 0:21:49]: Um retreat. [0:21:49, 0:21:51]: And they participated in [0:21:51, 0:21:58]: were in favor of the items that were added to that work plan. And so we just want to get [0:21:58, 0:21:59]: Um [0:21:59, 0:22:04]: Like I said, approval, buy-in, whatever you want to call that from the entire council. [0:22:05, 0:22:09]: so that we won't have situations where we're moving forward doing work. [0:22:09, 0:22:11]: Um as a board. [0:22:11, 0:22:17]: both Main Street and DDA putting in work, putting in um time and effort, and then to have that [0:22:17, 0:22:19]: particular project or idea. [0:22:20, 0:22:22]: Stymied or taken off the table. [0:22:23, 0:22:29]: Are there any questions with regard to the work plan committees, the projects that we're working on, or anything that I've [0:22:29, 0:22:31]: Um mentioned thus far. [0:22:33, 0:22:39]: Okay, again, I know I'm kind of moving fast, so just wanted to make sure that you all had an opportunity to [0:22:39, 0:22:40]: Chime in if you needed to. [0:22:41, 0:22:53]: Um, the next thing is um the support of our small business blitz that is going on right now and also our small business Saturday, which will be happening on November the 27th. [0:22:53, 0:22:55]: We're um [0:22:55, 0:22:58]: Doing media updates on our um [0:22:59, 0:23:00]: Social media [0:23:00, 0:23:05]: And Lisa has been working very diligently um with some of our [0:23:05, 0:23:08]: New participants this year. [0:23:08, 0:23:17]: To put together videos. As you all will recall, we have done videos for the past years with different Main Street businesses or different [0:23:17, 0:23:20]: Shop small businesses, shop small participants. [0:23:21, 0:23:27]: And we're trying to continue that tradition so that we pull in even more of our businesses that can be featured. [0:23:27, 0:23:29]: In these little vignettes. [0:23:29, 0:23:33]: Um, Lisa, are you able to queue up um one of the [0:23:33, 0:23:38]: Commercial not commercials, but spot ad spots that we've put together. [0:23:38, 0:23:41]: Um, this one is just an overview that we put together. [0:23:41, 0:23:44]: Just to give people encouragement to come out. [0:23:44, 0:23:46]: We're also doing um [0:23:46, 0:23:50]: As I said, videos with some of our new participants from this year. [0:23:51, 0:23:52]: So Lisa, if you [0:23:53, 0:23:54]: Share your screen. [0:23:54, 0:23:57]: Are you able are you all seeing Lisa screen? [0:23:58, 0:24:06]: Um, I hope so. Um, because it just for some reason decided to disappear on me. So give me give me a second, I'm gonna find it again. [0:24:10, 0:24:11]: Yes. [0:24:13, 0:24:14]: Here it comes. [0:24:14, 0:24:24]: Hello, I'm Kira Harris Braggs and I'm the Main Street Manager for the City of Stockbridge. And I'm Lisa Fareet. I'm the program coordinator for Stockbridge Main Street. [0:24:24, 0:24:44]: And we're inviting you to come and support our local businesses the entire month of November. Come out and shop, dine, and do business with all of our locally owned small businesses. We've come up with the Stockbridge Small Business Blitz and the Small Business Passport. The Passport has over 30. [0:24:44, 0:24:48]: participating locally owned businesses. [0:24:48, 0:24:53]: Customers are asked to go ahead and visit these businesses, shop at four, [0:24:53, 0:25:00]: Get four stamps and you're eligible to participate in a drawing for a hundred dollar cash card. [0:25:00, 0:25:05]: November is the month for our small business blitz here in Stockbridge. [0:25:06, 0:25:22]: One day is not enough. We want to shop and support our local businesses for the entire month of November. So please grab a passport and go shopping, go dining, and support Stockbridge businesses. [0:25:22, 0:25:27]: We need you to shop till you drop and dine non-stop. [0:25:27, 0:25:31]: You better shop around here [0:25:34, 0:25:35]: Okay. [0:25:35, 0:25:48]: So that's our overview. Hopefully you saw some businesses that you currently support and want to support in the near future. Lisa, how many um videos are we doing for businesses? [0:25:49, 0:26:06]: Um there are seven individual businesses. This video this little video is the eighth one. And we've been trying to stick with eight each year. It doesn't always work out. But what I love is that we have some newcomers to to the program. [0:26:06, 0:26:08]: We have one for Elf's Cakery. [0:26:09, 0:26:13]: That one's gonna be coming out. Um, we've got one for the funnel cake. [0:26:13, 0:26:16]: Heaven that's gonna be um doing their ribbon cutting today. [0:26:16, 0:26:17]: Um [0:26:18, 0:26:23]: Oh my goodness, all of a sudden, oh there's a paint and sit place. It's called Paint by Design. [0:26:23, 0:26:25]: On Hudson Bridge, they have a video. [0:26:26, 0:26:27]: Um the [0:26:28, 0:26:30]: The bed and breakfast also. [0:26:31, 0:26:32]: Stockbridge lights, yeah. [0:26:33, 0:26:38]: Stockbridge Lakes bed and breakfast. And for some reason the rest are not coming to my mind right now. [0:26:39, 0:26:40]: But we'll be rolling them out. [0:26:41, 0:26:44]: Um, I'm gonna try to do as many as I can. [0:26:44, 0:26:52]: Uh in the next couple of days so that it's out before Small Business Saturday. And we'll let those run till the end of the year actually. [0:26:53, 0:27:00]: So be sure to um stay connected to Main Street's social media, our Facebook page will be putting them [0:27:00, 0:27:05]: Showing them there. Also the city of Stockbridge will be rolling them as well. [0:27:05, 0:27:06]: So uh we're [0:27:07, 0:27:12]: Trying to get a good collection. We've done some in the past. Um, Greg has done one, Linda has done one. [0:27:12, 0:27:18]: Um several other businesses. Like you say, we've we've got a pretty good collection of videos that we'll be able to run. [0:27:18, 0:27:20]: The entire um [0:27:20, 0:27:31]: week of Thanksgiving and then um for small business Saturday and into the holiday season. So we're really proud of those. And I need everyone to give Lisa a hand because she has been [0:27:32, 0:27:39]: Just running ragged trying to get these things done. And um thank you, Lisa, for all the work that you're putting into this particular promotion. [0:27:40, 0:27:43]: And then awesome thank you to board members, Greg Horton. [0:27:43, 0:27:59]: Um he put the passport together and that is no easy task, let me tell you. Um just getting it, getting people to respond with their logos and letting him know whether they're gonna be open and what their hours are and what their specials are. [0:27:59, 0:28:00]: It's been um [0:28:01, 0:28:09]: Definitely a labor of love. So, Greg, thank you so much for taking over that part of the process. And then also recruiting businesses. Um [0:28:09, 0:28:13]: Prayer, Linda, both of you have been very instrumental in. [0:28:14, 0:28:17]: Um bringing businesses on board to participate. [0:28:17, 0:28:22]: Um so everyone that has done anything around this particular promotion, thank you so much. [0:28:23, 0:28:27]: Because this year we decided to do it for the entire month of November. [0:28:27, 0:28:34]: And so that kind with the amphitheater opening, trying to get this started for the entire month as opposed to just the one day. [0:28:34, 0:28:39]: It has been very um hectic and so everyone has been asked to. [0:28:39, 0:28:40]: Kinda do [0:28:40, 0:28:41]: Um [0:28:41, 0:28:49]: double duty on this. So I really do appreciate all the effort that everyone has put into this. And now I'm asking all of our board members [0:28:49, 0:28:54]: to get the word out, get your friends, your family, everyone that you know. [0:28:54, 0:28:58]: To start shopping and dining locally with our start bridge businesses. [0:28:58, 0:29:07]: And especially on the um shop small um date, small business Saturday, the twenty-seventh of November. [0:29:07, 0:29:12]: I'm charging all of our board members, if you are in the area, to please [0:29:12, 0:29:14]: Go out and support. [0:29:15, 0:29:22]: At least four of the businesses that are participating and um take pictures, do selfies. [0:29:22, 0:29:26]: Um send those in to us so that we can let people know that our board. [0:29:27, 0:29:29]: Із супортінь дис нашно ефо. [0:29:29, 0:29:30]: To support [0:29:31, 0:29:35]: Small businesses in our local community. So thank you in advance. [0:29:36, 0:29:44]: for any efforts that you all put forward around this and I have passports here at City Hall. If anyone needs passports that they would like to [0:29:44, 0:29:45]: Help distribute. [0:29:46, 0:29:54]: Um oh and I need to tell everyone that each business that is involved has passports at their location. [0:29:55, 0:29:57]: And then the passports will be turned in. [0:29:58, 0:30:04]: Um, the deadline for turning in all the passports is December the third, which is the first Friday. [0:30:04, 0:30:07]: in December and they can turn them in at [0:30:07, 0:30:09]: Greg's um location. [0:30:10, 0:30:23]: They can turn them in at drip through coffee or at city hall. So if people give them to you um because they know you're on the board and ask you to turn them in, those are locations that you can turn them in, but always you can bring them. [0:30:24, 0:30:27]: the city hall and we'll collect them here. So there's a drawing for [0:30:28, 0:30:32]: One hundred dollar giftкар, American Експрес гіфкарфопіпу шоп. [0:30:32, 0:30:36]: Throughout the month of November, people that specifically shop. [0:30:36, 0:30:36]: On [0:30:37, 0:30:41]: Um small business Saturday, they have an opportunity to be in a drawing for. [0:30:41, 0:30:52]: Um two hundred dollars, s uh two hundred dollar gift cards. So that basically makes someone eligible to win three hundred dollars during this holiday shopping season. So [0:30:52, 0:30:59]: Please get the word out and make sure that you all are doing the same in supporting Small Business Saturday. [0:30:59, 0:31:03]: And can I just um add in terms of your support? [0:31:03, 0:31:04]: Um [0:31:05, 0:31:15]: If you would please go onto the Stockbridge Main Street Facebook page and like the different videos as they're coming out, that generates more um [0:31:16, 0:31:18]: I guess viewership for them. [0:31:18, 0:31:23]: And um in addition to that, if you are out and about shopping throughout the month. [0:31:24, 0:31:26]: Um and especially on uh [0:31:27, 0:31:28]: The Saturday after Thanksgiving. [0:31:28, 0:31:39]: Please send me photos of yourself or whoever you're with at that shopping location so that I can post them on Facebook and this will generate a lot more interest. [0:31:39, 0:31:41]: Yes. Thanks, Lisa. [0:31:42, 0:32:02]: And that leads me into uh celebrating a very special business. Um, Linda Jones with CNL Family Salon has celebrated her 15th anniversary of being a downtown business. So let's give her a hand. Um that anniversary was on [0:32:01, 0:32:19]: November the 6th, I think it was. And Linda, we just want to celebrate you and thank you for um being at Downtown Business, being a part of this board, and being a part of our community. Um, as you all know, Linda also does um a [0:32:19, 0:32:23]: A spectacular community service. She has a food pantry. [0:32:23, 0:32:24]: That um [0:32:24, 0:32:26]: regularly distributes [0:32:26, 0:32:30]: Food items to the community, those who are in need of food. [0:32:31, 0:32:33]: So we definitely. [0:32:33, 0:32:40]: appreciate you, we appreciate your business and we appreciate your connection to the community because [0:32:40, 0:32:41]: You have [0:32:41, 0:32:45]: Definitely wrap your arms around the city of Stockbridge. [0:32:45, 0:32:46]: And we really [0:32:46, 0:32:47]: Admire you. [0:32:48, 0:32:49]: And we celebrate you, Linda. [0:32:50, 0:32:51]: This whole month of November. [0:32:52, 0:32:53]: Yay. [0:32:53, 0:32:54]: Yeah. [0:32:54, 0:32:55]: I [0:32:55, 0:32:56]: So much. [0:32:58, 0:32:58]: Okay. [0:32:59, 0:33:01]: Okay. Oh, Linda, are you trying to say something? [0:33:02, 0:33:03]: I just said thank you so much. [0:33:04, 0:33:06]: You are welcome. You are so welcome. [0:33:07, 0:33:10]: And I'm I might be making a mistake here, so forgive me, but [0:33:10, 0:33:11]: Um prayer. [0:33:12, 0:33:16]: Is there a an anniversary at Elf's this month also? [0:33:16, 0:33:28]: Um it was July. It was July, yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. Someone else told me they had an anniversary. I thought it was you. Yeah, it was um we celebrated 11 years, um July 25th. [0:33:28, 0:33:32]: Okay, okay. Sorry about that. We'll get we'll have a party for you in July. [0:33:38, 0:33:41]: Greg, you also don't you have a fall anniversary too? [0:33:42, 0:33:51]: No, ours is in spring. Um but drip through drip through is celebrating five years of decreased. Okay. There was one more, but it doesn't come to me right now. So [0:33:52, 0:33:56]: All right. All right. Well, thank you everyone for um [0:33:56, 0:33:58]: Supporting our small businesses. [0:33:59, 0:34:10]: And then finally, I just wanted to announce that the city of Stockbridge will have their drive-thru celebration, holiday celebration at the Merrill Manders. [0:34:10, 0:34:17]: On Thursday, December the second, it will be a drive-thru. They're going to have Santa and Mrs. Claus. [0:34:17, 0:34:20]: A winter wonderland um kind of light show. [0:34:21, 0:34:32]: They'll also have a live nativity, so a nativity scene with live animals. So if you have children, that might be something that they would definitely be interested in. Hey, I've got teenagers and we're gonna be coming through. [0:34:32, 0:34:38]: Um and they'll be giving away goodie bags and things for cr to recognize the um holiday. [0:34:38, 0:34:44]: So please um put in your plans and help us get the word out about the city of Stockbridges. [0:34:45, 0:34:48]: holiday celebration on December the second and [0:34:48, 0:34:54]: Um usually Main Street does the hot cocoa stand, but since we're still doing um our [0:34:55, 0:34:55]: Covid. [0:34:56, 0:35:02]: carrying out our COVID precautions. We will be providing cocoa, but it will not be um in liquid form. [0:35:03, 0:35:09]: will be putting to g they'll be putting together a cocoa packet and giving that to everyone as a part of their goodie bag. [0:35:10, 0:35:12]: Um in Main Street will be contributing that. [0:35:12, 0:35:16]: to the goodie bag items that will be distributed on that [0:35:16, 0:35:17]: Your word day. [0:35:18, 0:35:23]: Okay, that's all that I have for my report. Again, I'm sorry that we're kind of rushing through. [0:35:23, 0:35:24]: Um but [0:35:24, 0:35:29]: gotta get over there to the uh ribbon cutting. So I'll give it back to you. [0:35:29, 0:35:29]: Um [0:35:30, 0:35:31]: Mr. Vice Chair. [0:35:32, 0:35:52]: Uh thank you, uh Kira. Uh as we prepare to uh adjourn this meeting, I'd just like to take a a small point of privilege to uh thank uh everybody on the board, especially uh Kira, Lisa, and Mr. Peterson for your continuous support and endeavors to support this board. [0:35:52, 0:36:12]: And the leadership that you provide for this board and for the rest of the Main Street board members, thank you for your time and your effort and your input in trying to revitalize or vitalize downtown Stockbridge and make it more vibrant for footprints to come down there and have folks to enjoy our city. So thank y'all for that. Um [0:36:12, 0:36:15]: Uh, but on another note, this is the Thanksgiving season. [0:36:15, 0:36:34]: But every day is a thanks. So we need to, you know, thank everybody each and every day. Share love with our families. Uh enjoy the holiday. Don't eat too much. But just tell your family that you love them. Um we still in a pandemic, still be safe. Um, be careful, wear your mask. Um [0:36:34, 0:36:54]: And those things, if you if you uh incline to get those shots, the booster shots is out there. I've got mines, and and so just love each other, man. We got to love each other more than ever before. And uh when when we when we cross paths the wrong way, let's say, hey, I'm sorry, I apologize, and let's move on and continue to uplift. [0:36:54, 0:37:14]: with each other because we have to continue to love one another to help each other get through what you know this day is bringing to us each and every day. So but I'll yield the floor on that. And um also uh on the record, I just want to thank uh Councilman Thomas and and uh Councilman Gantt for their election as well. They back on the board. So we just want to put that on the record [0:37:14, 0:37:25]: And wishing them very well wishes in their endeavors in uh leading this city as well, and the rest of the councilmen as well and the mayor. So, but other than that, uh I would yield and um [0:37:25, 0:37:31]: adjourn this meeting ask for a motion to adjourn the meeting at this time and uh the floor is open for that motion. [0:37:34, 0:37:36]: A motion to adjourn the meeting. [0:37:38, 0:37:40]: I will second that motion, please. [0:37:40, 0:37:47]: Thank you, Mr. Jones. It's been moved by Mr. First that we adjourn the meeting at nine forty. It was properly seconded by Ms. Jones. [0:37:47, 0:37:48]: Are there any questions? [0:37:49, 0:37:55]: Hearing none. Uh I'll uh ask for a vote at this time. Willie Hopkins, yes. Miss Reed. [0:37:58, 0:37:59]: Yes. [0:38:00, 0:38:00]: Mr. Furch. [0:38:01, 0:38:02]: Yes. [0:38:03, 0:38:03]: Miss Finley. [0:38:04, 0:38:05]: Yes. [0:38:05, 0:38:06]: Miss Richardson? [0:38:08, 0:38:09]: Mr Horton. [0:38:10, 0:38:11]: Yes. [0:38:11, 0:38:12]: And Miss Jones. [0:38:13, 0:38:14]: Yes. [0:38:14, 0:38:24]: approved. Everybody uh have a good day, be safe and have a great weekend. And uh we'll see you uh December the 10th at our next uh board meeting. [0:38:25, 0:38:34]: Okay, thank you for your flexibility and we're gonna dash over to Funnel Cake Heaven. Enjoy your holiday. Happy Thanksgiving, everybody. [0:38:35, 0:38:35]: Mm. [0:38:40, 0:38:41]: Thanks, Willie. [0:38:45, 0:38:45]: Okay.

--- title: Downtown Development Authority Meeting date: 2021-11-16 source: 2021-11-16_Downtown_Development_Authority_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:02, 0:00:18]: Uh hello everyone. We are at the October regular meeting for the Downtown Development Authority. And uh it's today is October 19th at 6 p.m. Um so uh Bob, if we could start off with uh roll call, please. [0:00:21, 0:00:25]: Okay. Uh Roger Custon? I am here. [0:00:26, 0:00:27]: Uh art Christian. [0:00:28, 0:00:28]: Present. [0:00:29, 0:00:30]: Синікокінь. [0:00:31, 0:00:31]: Present. [0:00:32, 0:00:33]: Um [0:00:33, 0:00:34]: Barber Richardson? [0:00:38, 0:00:38]: Mm. [0:00:39, 0:00:40]: Uh Maxwell Sears. [0:00:43, 0:00:45]: And Bob Swagert the I'm here. [0:00:47, 0:00:51]: And uh Councilwoman Gantt as well. And and Gantt. Councilwoman Gantt. [0:00:54, 0:00:55]: Okay. [0:00:57, 0:01:08]: Well, we do have four out of the seven members, so I believe that constitutes a quorum. So um we will officially open the meeting at six oh three p.m. [0:01:10, 0:01:30]: Right. And uh we also have uh a few of the city staff. Thank you for joining and supporting the DDA, Alan Peterson, Kira, uh Harris Braggs, as well as um our trusted uh uh uh city clerk, Vanessa Holliday. Thank you all for joining. And also for the [0:01:30, 0:01:35]: the record Barber welcome I th I see you've joined as well [0:01:35, 0:01:37]: Yeah, welcome, welcome. [0:01:38, 0:01:55]: Three. All right. So first item on the agenda is to approve today's agenda. So it was sent out on uh October the 13th and a few days later as well. So I'd like to hear a motion to approve today's agenda. [0:01:57, 0:02:03]: I move that we approve the agenda today's agenda. All right, thank you. Second. [0:02:04, 0:02:08]: That was Samequa. Thank you. So is there any discussion? [0:02:12, 0:02:32]: All right, so we will do this by um I I know not all the cameras are on, so uh let's look for whoever has the camera and uh vote to approve today's agenda, we'll raise our hands in favor. And so that is myself, Art, Bob, and Barber. [0:02:32, 0:02:38]: Uh Samaqua, yeah, yes or no for today's agenda. So we'll say yes. So it's unanimous. Thank you. [0:02:42, 0:02:58]: All right, next item on the agenda is the August 17th meeting minutes. They were uh sent on October the 13th. So um I'll uh like to hear a motion not to approve the October 17th meeting minutes as prepared by the city clerk. [0:02:58, 0:03:01]: So moved. Thank you, Art. [0:03:01, 0:03:01]: Second. [0:03:02, 0:03:03]: All right. [0:03:05, 0:03:07]: Second, first. All right. Any discussion? [0:03:11, 0:03:23]: Hearing none, uh, we'll do the same thing. Those with the camera on, you uh raise your hand in favor of approving uh the August 17th meeting minutes. All right, I see unanimous by those and Sumikwa, yes or no? [0:03:23, 0:03:26]: Um, do I have to abstain? Because I wasn't at that meeting. [0:03:27, 0:03:28]: You may. Okay. [0:03:31, 0:03:49]: Thank you. All right. So that uh that moves those items along. So I don't have any uh opening remarks, so we will move right into the uh treasurer's update. So uh Barber, did you want to present or you want me to uh present the report you sent just earlier? [0:03:49, 0:03:54]: You you mean as in on the screen? If you can share your screen. I sure will. Okay. [0:03:54, 0:03:56]: I'm working on two computers. I'm sorry. [0:03:56, 0:04:01]: No worries. Let me get it ready and I'll have it in just a moment. [0:04:03, 0:04:03]: Let me see. [0:04:04, 0:04:05]: Alright. [0:04:08, 0:04:12]: Okay, it is here. Let me share the screen. [0:04:19, 0:04:20]: All right. [0:04:21, 0:04:26]: If you can confirm you can see it. Yes, we can we can. All right, very good. [0:04:28, 0:04:31]: Pretty uneventful. We've actually had no change in cash. [0:04:31, 0:04:32]: Um [0:04:33, 0:04:46]: Since June of 2021, the cash balance has remained the same for July, August, and September. The uh outstanding liability to the city for the trend uh the surveying transaction, that check has been [0:04:46, 0:04:47]: Um [0:04:47, 0:04:53]: sent and I did check the account today and it was cleared but it didn't clear till October but we did send it in September. [0:04:54, 0:05:02]: So as of September 30th, it still shows up as a liability, but as of today, October 19th, it has since cleared the bank. [0:05:02, 0:05:05]: Um the only other items that we have. [0:05:06, 0:05:08]: Roger, if you can scroll down, coming up. [0:05:09, 0:05:15]: Is a legal bill due to our attorney for his review of the bylaws in the IGA. [0:05:16, 0:05:23]: Um, and what's not presented, I think there is gonna be a bill for Zoom, which is gonna just be a monthly ongoing operating expense. [0:05:23, 0:05:27]: Um but as of now that's the only thing that we have outstanding. So [0:05:27, 0:05:36]: Again, cash balance has remained the same for the past three months. In October, we will see that reduction for the Saveane sale. [0:05:36, 0:05:43]: Um, and then we'll probably also see the legal fees and operating expenses, which would be just the Zoom transaction. [0:05:43, 0:05:45]: On the next tab. [0:05:45, 0:05:49]: You'll see that's reflected. We have no expenses that we've incurred on the PNL. [0:05:50, 0:05:52]: The past three months, so [0:05:52, 0:05:59]: We're still sitting, no revenue or no expenses. So we're still kind of just sitting where we were for our last report. [0:06:00, 0:06:03]: I will entertain any questions if you have any. [0:06:07, 0:06:08]: Any f any questions for Barber? [0:06:11, 0:06:13]: I go ahead. [0:06:16, 0:06:32]: All right, I have a question and a comment. So the uh Sylvain uh transaction, I had a follow, I believe after you had sent the check, maybe it was received, I did get a comment from um a note from uh Mr. Wiggins, John Wiggins, the city treasurer, um um asking for the um [0:06:33, 0:06:50]: uh the final paperwork for that transaction. I did forward it to him. So Alan, if there's anything remaining pending from the city's perspective that they need to, you know, receive that payment and close the books on that transaction, uh, please let me know. But I believe I've forwarded what he needed. [0:06:50, 0:06:52]: Um the [0:06:52, 0:07:12]: Uh other question, if I can just bring up the topic about the Zoom. So just since we're here and Vanessa's on as well, um I is it Barber, I don't know if you saw my note, but maybe we can I'd rather go ahead and just set it up with our uh debit accounts. So maybe we can set up a time separate from this meeting to uh do that once you're in the office. All right. [0:07:12, 0:07:14]: Right? Yes. Okay. [0:07:15, 0:07:15]: [436.4, 442.0]: And I think that's it for that I had for financial. Any other comments or questions? [0:07:24, 0:07:25]: All right. Thank you for that. [0:07:26, 0:07:35]: Stop sharing. And next item on the agenda is uh secretary updates. Bob, do you have anything to share with the group? Uh no. [0:07:35, 0:07:36]: All right. [0:07:37, 0:07:51]: Are you okay with this uh uh being on the I mean, I know we approved the agenda, but you know, I just kind of have this sort of uh as a regular item on the agenda to touch base with you if you have anything for the group. Are you cool with leaving it on there like that? Yeah, oh absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. [0:07:51, 0:07:59]: All right. And that brings that brings us to the next item, the Main Street Advisory Board updates. So Barber, I'll start with you and we also have Kara with us today. [0:08:00, 0:08:10]: I've been out. So please, please, I would defer to to Kira as I've uh unfortunately had to miss my last two meetings with Main Street. [0:08:10, 0:08:11]: All right, great. [0:08:12, 0:08:21]: Kira, what do you have for the group? Good evening, everyone. Um, I just wanted to um give you all a few notes on [0:08:22, 0:08:27]: um some of our downtown um projects and [0:08:29, 0:08:30]: Um our amphitheater. [0:08:30, 0:08:34]: We have um as you all know um [0:08:34, 0:08:44]: held a grand opening for the downtown amphitheater. We had a sold-out performance for Gladys featuring Gladys Knight and Patty LaBelle. [0:08:44, 0:08:54]: on the um twenty fifth of September. It was a sold out crowd and we um had a ribbon cutting and all of that good stuff. So it was um [0:08:55, 0:09:03]: Very well received, I think, by the Stockbridge community and the visitors that um came into our midst for that particular. [0:09:03, 0:09:06]: event. We have another [0:09:06, 0:09:11]: Um concert that will be hosted in the amphitheater on October the twenty third. [0:09:12, 0:09:14]: Um that will be featuring um [0:09:14, 0:09:17]: The performers Shaka Khan and Freddie Jackson. [0:09:17, 0:09:21]: And tickets are on sale now for that particular. [0:09:21, 0:09:23]: Performance as well. [0:09:23, 0:09:34]: So if you haven't had a chance to um go to a performance, if you weren't able to go to the grand opening, here's your next chance to be able to. [0:09:35, 0:09:38]: Um, see the amphitheater in action. [0:09:38, 0:09:39]: Um also [0:09:40, 0:09:55]: Um with regard to the amphitheater, we've had several um tours that have um gone um through the amphitheater. So the community is also getting um the opportunity to see the amphitheater. [0:09:56, 0:10:04]: In um different tour groups. So we're hoping that the word is getting spread about the amphitheater, how fabulous it is, and um [0:10:05, 0:10:06]: How um [0:10:07, 0:10:11]: It is going to be um a great asset for the community. [0:10:12, 0:10:19]: With regard to um downtown projects, we have the um Ted Strickland uh repurposing project. [0:10:19, 0:10:21]: Um that bid [0:10:21, 0:10:27]: Um has gone out. I think that um Lisa reported that at your last meeting and um [0:10:28, 0:10:32]: The contractor viz site visit was held um [0:10:32, 0:10:39]: in September on the um fourteenth, I think it was. So that bid should be closing very soon. [0:10:40, 0:10:44]: And um a contractor will be selected for the work on that particular building. [0:10:45, 0:10:47]: Uh one fourteen MLK. [0:10:47, 0:10:58]: Um, which is the our white box project. The contractor bid went out on September the 8th, and a contractor site visit was held on October 5th. [0:10:59, 0:11:04]: So the bid that bid will also be coming to a close at the end of this month as well. [0:11:05, 0:11:05]: The [0:11:06, 0:11:08]: Mm um alleyway project. [0:11:08, 0:11:14]: Uh Main Street hosted an Allery Project presentation uh meeting on September the twenty-seventh. [0:11:14, 0:11:34]: It was very well attended. We had the majority of the property owners for the buildings that are on both Burke Street and Martin Luther King Senior Caritage Trail, including representatives from the lodge, the Masonic Lodge, were at this particular meeting. [0:11:34, 0:11:38]: Uh, Falcon design consultants uh provided an overview. [0:11:38, 0:11:43]: of the project and were there to field any questions that [0:11:43, 0:11:49]: folks had with regard to the project. This was our first time really presenting it to um the [0:11:50, 0:11:53]: Property owners who would be impacted by [0:11:53, 0:11:54]: B. [0:11:54, 0:12:02]: Project. So we were very excited to see so many people. I think only um two property owners were not. [0:12:03, 0:12:07]: Um there, but I have talked with one of them since. [0:12:07, 0:12:11]: The uh meeting and have scheduled a time for them to. [0:12:11, 0:12:14]: Come downtown and meet with me to talk about the project. So [0:12:15, 0:12:18]: That leaves only one property owner that we have to [0:12:18, 0:12:22]: um touch so to speak to make sure that they know what we're planning for. [0:12:23, 0:12:24]: Um that project. [0:12:25, 0:12:27]: We are also going to be [0:12:27, 0:12:42]: um meeting with each property owner individually so that we can talk with them about any concerns that they may have and any input that they have with regard to the plans. And then once we have met with everyone, [0:12:42, 0:12:46]: those plans will be finalized and we'll be able to send that project out for be it. [0:12:47, 0:12:50]: And that's about all that I have with regard to [0:12:51, 0:12:53]: Our projects in the downtown area. [0:12:56, 0:12:57]: And that concludes my report. [0:12:59, 0:13:01]: Uh Art looks like you have a question for Kira. [0:13:02, 0:13:04]: Yes, Kira, could you give us the uh [0:13:04, 0:13:10]: Approximate timeframe of the Alloway project going to bid. I know it's gotta go through the process, but [0:13:11, 0:13:12]: Approximate. [0:13:14, 0:13:14]: You muted. [0:13:17, 0:13:17]: You're muted. [0:13:18, 0:13:19]: Sorry about that. [0:13:19, 0:13:21]: Um I [0:13:21, 0:13:28]: Don't want to give a date for a start date because we still have to meet with all of the property owners and [0:13:29, 0:13:34]: We have to get finalized designs um before we can take it to bed. [0:13:34, 0:13:38]: I would like for everything to go to bed before the end of the year. [0:13:38, 0:13:39]: Um [0:13:39, 0:13:49]: But that will just depend on how quickly we can meet with all of the property owners, get their feedback, then get with the um engineers and [0:13:49, 0:13:50]: Get all of that. [0:13:51, 0:13:54]: Stuff completed before we can even put it out to be when the bid. [0:13:54, 0:13:56]: process is about um [0:13:57, 0:13:59]: Two to three months, I think it is. [0:14:00, 0:14:01]: So [0:14:01, 0:14:06]: Um, we're hoping that we can at least start it before the end of the year. [0:14:07, 0:14:08]: Thank you. [0:14:08, 0:14:09]: Mm-hmm. [0:14:11, 0:14:12]: Any other questions for Kira? [0:14:15, 0:14:35]: Um, I I I kind of want to follow up with the sort of with the art's comment. Um, I I know there were, you know, the next step for the alleyway project would be to get, you know, basically sign off from each of the business owners that are impacted by that area. And I know there's been some feedback on, you know, some possible design adjustments to uh what was presented at that meeting. [0:14:35, 0:14:49]: meeting. Do you do you feel optimistic here? Uh I mean, that that's resolvable at this stage? What what what are your thoughts as far as uh you know the concerns that were raised during and after the meeting? [0:14:50, 0:14:51]: Um [0:14:51, 0:14:59]: I would say it's kind of a mixed bag. There were a couple of people who are not in favor of the project at all. [0:14:59, 0:15:04]: Um which was kind of surprising. Um I think that we [0:15:04, 0:15:18]: Um, the fact that we are willing to do something should have been um, or at least I'd hoped would have been incentive to get a lot of at least preliminary buy-in um at that particular meeting, but there were some people who [0:15:19, 0:15:19]: Um [0:15:20, 0:15:20]: Did not [0:15:21, 0:15:22]: Like the project at all. [0:15:23, 0:15:29]: And then but the majority did like the project and felt like it would be an improvement in the um alleyway. [0:15:29, 0:15:35]: There was um some contention about our plan to [0:15:35, 0:15:38]: Um, replace some of the асфальт. [0:15:38, 0:15:43]: that is back there that would have to be torn out um to do some of the [0:15:43, 0:15:44]: Um [0:15:44, 0:15:47]: Drainage work with gravel as opposed to [0:15:47, 0:15:52]: replacing the asphalt and the reason we were going in that direction was so that it would be [0:15:53, 0:15:56]: Um better ready for development. [0:15:56, 0:15:59]: Um, as opposed to having the [0:15:59, 0:16:02]: putting down new asphalt and then having that torn out. [0:16:02, 0:16:08]: If a new development um came along, you know, we have an el economic development director on board now. [0:16:08, 0:16:10]: So um [0:16:10, 0:16:13]: You know, we're trying to aggressively try to get some infill there. [0:16:14, 0:16:19]: But so that's one of the things that we might have to go back to the drawing board on and just see what [0:16:20, 0:16:21]: Um cost [0:16:22, 0:16:27]: would be incurred with placing asphalt there as opposed to the gravel. [0:16:28, 0:16:30]: Um, also [0:16:30, 0:16:37]: There was some um concern about some of the landscaping that we had proposed with regard to. [0:16:37, 0:16:38]: Um the [0:16:39, 0:16:53]: the rears, the rear portions of those buildings up against those buildings. That's something that can be easily eliminated. We just won't do landscaping close to the buildings and maybe not any landscaping at all. Just make it kind of a [0:16:54, 0:16:54]: Um [0:16:55, 0:16:56]: A um [0:16:56, 0:17:00]: Blank surface, so to speak. We'd still do the pavers, but [0:17:00, 0:17:05]: leave out some of the landscaping ideas that were designed into the plan. [0:17:05, 0:17:06]: Um [0:17:06, 0:17:21]: So it's it's gonna have to be some more conversation to make sure that we can get at least the majority of people happy with uh what we'd like to propose. Um, but it is going to be very important. [0:17:21, 0:17:22]: That we get. [0:17:22, 0:17:23]: Um [0:17:24, 0:17:30]: a a large majority of the people on board with it or we won't be able to move forward because of the properties that will be impacted. [0:17:33, 0:17:53]: Thank you. Um I guess a couple of points with that is um is it an all or nothing as far as uh the agreement? Does every business owner have to sign off on it in order to in order to move forward or do you just need a majority or is that kind of are you just kind of I don't know if that's I don't know what the, you know, whether you need to [0:17:52, 0:18:06]: specific approval from each and every owner that's it's really a pro it's really a a courtesy to for the city to even be um you know having these discussions really with the property owners um because [0:18:07, 0:18:26]: In all honesty, that the majority of that property that we wanted to work with belongs to the city. So we could just only be speaking with the people whose properties will actually be impacted as far as us needing to have easement or some sort of access onto their properties. Um so I would say no, but [0:18:26, 0:18:30]: With a project of this magnitude, it would be nice to get. [0:18:30, 0:18:36]: Um the majority of people happ happy with the project and um on board with it. [0:18:36, 0:18:42]: Um, so I don't want to say it's an all or nothing, but if it turns into something that's really contentious. [0:18:43, 0:18:45]: I think that it could threaten the [0:18:45, 0:18:47]: The viability of the project. [0:18:48, 0:18:52]: Surely, surely. And is there anything that the D D A can do to help? [0:18:53, 0:18:58]: um sort of build support in this, you know, to move, you know, to help move the project forward. [0:18:58, 0:19:15]: Um definitely um support the project. Um in its once we have some final drawings, support the project. If you all have relationships with any of those business owners, um please talk to them and um emphasize how. [0:19:15, 0:19:35]: Um important this is for the downtown and creating a more walkable, more um engaging space in the alleyway because our vision was to be able to utilize the alleyway as an extension of those businesses to [0:19:35, 0:19:44]: Make it so that we could even use that space as possible event space and auxiliary. [0:19:44, 0:19:46]: Patio, if you will. [0:19:46, 0:19:52]: So it's very important that this get done because it has been a neglected [0:19:52, 0:19:58]: um property and alleyway for a very long time. And I think that [0:19:58, 0:20:02]: Its unsightliness is a detraction. [0:20:02, 0:20:03]: Um [0:20:03, 0:20:06]: And maybe even a deterrent to um [0:20:06, 0:20:21]: businesses wanting to locate in the downtown because of its unsightliness and um neglect. So I'm hoping that when we after we've talked to all of the business owners and property rather property owners again. [0:20:21, 0:20:25]: And get a baseline of what we need to do to. [0:20:25, 0:20:40]: um correct some of the things that we can correct with regard to the design. If we had host another meeting, it would be great to have DDA members present. And we did have some DDA members present at the meeting that we hosted in September, if we can have [0:20:41, 0:20:48]: um everyone on board, Main Street and DDA to just kind of be that voice of support, I think that that would be helpful. [0:20:49, 0:20:57]: Indeed. And you know, if it helps in any form, um beyond that, like to maybe um ask the board for hold on just a minute. I'm sorry. [0:21:00, 0:21:05]: I can't for you. Sorry, I'm sharing a space with my daughter who's also [0:21:05, 0:21:25]: On a Zoom meeting. That's all right. I was gonna offer is you know, uh once once once we have um, you know, uh like a design that you feel is appropriate to bring to this board, the DDA, for maybe a formal, you know, approval, you know, ask the board to formally uh approve or adopt or resolve to, you know, support the plan if that gives [0:21:25, 0:21:26]: Any kind of um [0:21:26, 0:21:39]: you know, formal support for it. We know I'm I'm happy to, you know, if you want to bring that forward to okay. That sounds good. And I think that that would be helpful because um we need as much support as we can um to get this done. [0:21:39, 0:21:49]: Agreed. All right. Well, thank you for that. Um, all right, so we'll move on to the next item on the agenda, the facade grant updates. Um, Art, do you have anything to update for the group? [0:21:49, 0:21:55]: Yes, and I'm gonna talk to you offline a little bit more, uh Roger, but one great thing about attending [0:21:55, 0:21:56]: They [0:21:57, 0:21:59]: Alleyway project uh meeting. [0:21:59, 0:22:14]: was afterwards, you know, I was interested in in just going back back there and uh Lisa happened to be back there with one of the homeowners, excuse me, the uh business owners. And I asked if I could join, you know, you know, the walkthrough uh, you know, talking about the issues back there. [0:22:14, 0:22:15]: And [0:22:17, 0:22:20]: It's I really saw the need for. [0:22:20, 0:22:26]: moving faster on facade grants. Um this business owner was very interested in that. [0:22:27, 0:22:29]: And um ліса also offered. [0:22:30, 0:22:31]: Uh [0:22:32, 0:22:37]: mentioned that the help that's available, I believe, through DCA in terms of [0:22:37, 0:22:39]: their expertise in [0:22:39, 0:22:43]: Working with those types of projects, uh, design, I believe. [0:22:43, 0:22:44]: Also [0:22:44, 0:22:46]: So that's definitely something [0:22:46, 0:22:47]: Um [0:22:47, 0:22:54]: that I definitely recognize and uh understand the need for to help move move that project along uh quicker. [0:22:54, 0:22:56]: And to get people's buy in. [0:22:56, 0:22:57]: They can say, Hey [0:22:57, 0:23:00]: We can get something that can help spruce up this area. [0:23:00, 0:23:01]: Like for example [0:23:02, 0:23:05]: Uh as Kira was pointing out and the uh [0:23:06, 0:23:07]: The developers um [0:23:08, 0:23:09]: Or the designers. [0:23:09, 0:23:11]: Talking about the importance of those pavers. [0:23:12, 0:23:19]: And you know, there was a little opposition at first, but as they explained it and said how it would be so much better, you know, for a number of reasons. [0:23:19, 0:23:24]: Um you started seeing some people, you know, moved by, you know, after they finally understood, you know. [0:23:25, 0:23:27]: the potential of how it could improve their property. So [0:23:28, 0:23:32]: Um there hasn't been any movement on um on fletchers of course. [0:23:32, 0:23:35]: Um, you know, that's still in his that the bottle's still in his court in terms of [0:23:36, 0:23:42]: whether it are they're choosing to, you know, finish those repairs and submit those for reimbursement. But that's all I have. [0:23:43, 0:23:49]: All right, thank you. Um I guess on the last point, if I well, first of all, any questions for art or any any comments or questions for about the facade grant? [0:23:52, 0:24:12]: Um I I I you know we we did have the opportunity to speak to Mr. Fletcher. He was among the attendees at the uh alleyway project presentation. And um I I think you know my sense of it is that um you know it may require a little bit of just to bring that one to closure, um I think it may require a a [0:24:12, 0:24:28]: visit during business hours when I believe it's his daughter that um kind of helps handle the uh books and may be able to provide the paperwork. Cause I think in his mind he thought he'd turned everything over. And you know what he's uh we we know that what we received were [0:24:28, 0:24:48]: you know, invoices and proposals, but not actual uh pay, you know, receipts showing payment. And so, you know, there is a difference, and we really can't cut a check until we get those receipts. So I would say, you know, if there's any way myself or any of us, you know, on this team can help um, you know, just sort of help move. [0:24:48, 0:24:57]: move move him and and and his uh along so we can bring that to a conclusion. I'd like to see that happen. And the timing of that I think is is helpful both [0:24:57, 0:25:10]: just in general to support the facade grant, but also to uh help um provide some relationship building as it relates to the alleyway project, you know, showing that the city is, you know, meeting its part. [0:25:11, 0:25:12]: Roger. [0:25:12, 0:25:12]: Yes. [0:25:15, 0:25:18]: Just had a quick a quick question. Yes. Um [0:25:20, 0:25:26]: I think where we left it as far as when I was speaking with Mr. Fletcher, it was the [0:25:26, 0:25:30]: um issue with the permitting of the [0:25:30, 0:25:30]: Um [0:25:31, 0:25:34]: painting that had to be done and that had been resolved. [0:25:35, 0:25:46]: So I know that the question had been asked of the D D A about the fees that were associated with that, if it would be covered with the grant. Has he been told that that would be covered or? [0:25:47, 0:25:49]: Is that what some of the [0:25:49, 0:25:52]: Slowdown is or is there something else? [0:25:54, 0:26:14]: It it's hard to say, Art. I don't know if you have any different take on this. My my take is that um there was a there was quite a bit of confusion between the the sign and the sign permit at as it relates to being reimbursed for the work that he did do. Um we're looking at it, you know, the sign was technically never in scope for the facade grant because. [0:26:13, 0:26:27]: because it's it's just signage is not part of the scope. Uh but he did do many other things that are re you know are in scope for the grant, such as the repainting of the building and, you know, anything else that he uh had done in in that relation. So [0:26:28, 0:26:31]: Um I d I know that the I believe the um [0:26:31, 0:26:32]: The um [0:26:33, 0:26:41]: The city council voted to waive the signed fee for Mr. Fletcher to kind of help resolve that issue. [0:26:41, 0:26:46]: Um but you know, I in either case it's not related to the reimbursement for the facade grant. [0:26:47, 0:26:56]: But that's a part of the grant. The the painting of the striping and all of that was a part of the facade grant that he was requesting. [0:26:57, 0:27:01]: So if the that was one of the things that I guess was um [0:27:02, 0:27:04]: One of the slow down [0:27:04, 0:27:06]: One of the reasons for slowdown [0:27:06, 0:27:17]: from his point of view was because the it was unresolved as to whether or not he would have to pay the fees. The signage has been approved. It just has to be painted onto the building. [0:27:18, 0:27:29]: So because it's a being painted as opposed to a standalone signage, um, that's a part of the facade, so it should be covered by the [0:27:29, 0:27:31]: Um grant and [0:27:31, 0:27:35]: It he should be able to move forward, especially if the fees have been waived. [0:27:36, 0:27:56]: Right. Well, you know, that's work that hasn't yet been done. And, you know, in my mind, I'd like to just bring this particular case to a close for the work that was done. He did it. He did do a lot. I mean, you know, they did they repaved, they did a lot of stuff, you know, related and unrelated to the foot facade grant during the renovation that. [0:27:56, 0:28:08]: there. And I'd I'd I'd like to see, you know, let's go ahead and, you know, show receipts, get them reimbursed for the work that was done. And, you know, I think part of the um [0:28:08, 0:28:27]: clarification of the facade grant procedures would be at what point could he could a business owner resubmit for an additional grant if say he does paint the sign at a later time or do something else as far as a facade grant. I don't know whether we're really clear on at what point can [0:28:28, 0:28:48]: you'd be eligible for yet another facade grant sometime later. And isn't the isn't the um the striping a part of this original facade grant? I don't understand why he would have to request another one. Well it didn't get done. You know, I'm I it's been over two years. But the reason [0:28:48, 0:28:55]: It wasn't done was because of the slowdown with regard to the fees, from what I understand. So now that council has voted. [0:28:55, 0:28:57]: For the fees to be waived. [0:28:57, 0:29:05]: Maybe he needs to be um spoken with again to say, hey, there are no fees associated with this. Go on and paint your striping. [0:29:06, 0:29:07]: I'll I'll definitely say that [0:29:07, 0:29:09]: That signage. [0:29:09, 0:29:10]: Is like [0:29:10, 0:29:11]: One of the main [0:29:12, 0:29:14]: uh features of that [0:29:15, 0:29:19]: That facade being, you know, redone. Yeah. Right. [0:29:20, 0:29:30]: I agree. It was very attractive in its per in the mock up. Yes. Well I'll I'll definitely and whoever would like to, you know, go with me, I'll definitely go by the Fletchers this week. [0:29:30, 0:29:31]: А то спеквит. [0:29:32, 0:29:33]: Uh because like like I said that [0:29:34, 0:29:36]: That signage, it was beautiful, and that's the type of [0:29:37, 0:29:39]: signage that we would want in that area. [0:29:39, 0:29:46]: Um and then it through the breeze way. Uh so I'll definitely go by there this week to talk to them about it. [0:29:47, 0:29:50]: to the whole look and feel of the building and that corner. So [0:29:51, 0:29:54]: I would like for him to be encouraged to go on and [0:29:54, 0:29:56]: Paint it so that [0:29:56, 0:30:02]: But I think asking him to do another process would just totally turn him off. [0:30:02, 0:30:08]: Well, I mean some I'm guessing at that, but I'm thinking that that probably would not be ideal. [0:30:08, 0:30:15]: I I I I hear you and I agree with you. I just I'm concerned that he may be unwilling to [0:30:17, 0:30:21]: put out more money into the project when there's already been [0:30:23, 0:30:43]: whatever perception of hassle for what he felt he was promised to begin with. So that that's why I was kind of thinking, well, can we just bring what he's done to a close and um, you know, put it back on him. But, you know, either way is fine. Um, I just I really would like to bring this to to some form of closure. [0:30:42, 0:30:51]: Ideally with the with the sine mural painted is is the best option. Yes, I agree, but that's assuming he's willing to do that. [0:30:52, 0:30:52]: Okay. [0:30:54, 0:31:00]: I'll definitely bring back an update on and I'll do it before the meeting, but especially for the next meeting also. [0:31:01, 0:31:01]: Great. [0:31:02, 0:31:12]: Okay, well thank you for that. All right. Uh anything uh we'll move on to the next item. So city staff updates. Uh Mr. Peterson. Thanks for uh thanks for joining. [0:31:13, 0:31:17]: Oh no problem. Um good evening everyone. Uh my update [0:31:18, 0:31:24]: Is about the business recruitment and retention committee. Uh we had our first meeting on [0:31:24, 0:31:34]: the fourth of October that was the first Monday of this month. We meet again on Monday, November the first at six o'clock. Um we discussed [0:31:34, 0:31:39]: Uh a lot of things and I emailed the notes to the committee members. [0:31:39, 0:31:50]: Uh so next meeting, uh hopefully we have some suggestions and some follow-ups to those notes that are in in red. But um the meeting went well and I look forward to working with [0:31:50, 0:31:51]: with the committee. [0:31:56, 0:31:59]: All right. Anything anything else, uh, Alan for the group? [0:32:00, 0:32:03]: Uh that that's about it for right now. Just the BRR report. [0:32:04, 0:32:04]: Okay. [0:32:05, 0:32:22]: Um I did I did have a chance to review the notes and I have a couple of uh comments or questions. Um the under um section five C acquire marketing data. There's a note there that marketing data will marketing data will be acquired through the DDA marketing plan. Is that [0:32:23, 0:32:30]: Was that accurate? Uh I because I'm not familiar that there's any effort on the DDA's part to develop a marketing plan. [0:32:30, 0:32:36]: Well i it was it was it was the marketing plan that goes along with the that master plan. [0:32:37, 0:32:39]: That's what I was referring to. [0:32:40, 0:32:49]: Um but if um Oh the the the market study. Okay. I got you. The market study, yeah. The the market study is what I'm gonna do. [0:32:49, 0:33:04]: All right. Um let's see. And then what to under additional tasks. There's two two questions under there that I had there. It says request for information, but I wasn't clear what the RFI would be for. [0:33:05, 0:33:22]: Uh the RFI is is for investors. I usually when they look at a community, they request um RFI and in that we'll just have information about the community, incentives, and things of that nature. So I I think everyone's involved in that task. Is that correct? It should be uh DDA. [0:33:23, 0:33:35]: Um well the committee, economic development and community development. Community development is there because they play a huge part in the incentives. [0:33:35, 0:33:37]: So in the RFI. [0:33:38, 0:33:39]: In the RFI. [0:33:40, 0:33:40]: Um [0:33:41, 0:33:46]: A large part is is the incentives that we offer to attract to attract investors. [0:33:47, 0:34:03]: Okay, so what and just to make sure I understand it correctly, this would be a request for information that would be posted by the potential investors requesting information of the city, mainstream and DDA to respond. We're the respondents. [0:34:03, 0:34:14]: Yeah, we we would we would we would provide it. I'm gonna send a template similar to the way I did for the business recruitment and retention program. Yes. Yeah. I I'm gonna I'm gonna work on a template. [0:34:14, 0:34:17]: for the RFI. So um [0:34:18, 0:34:20]: So we'll have a better understanding and I'll have that. [0:34:21, 0:34:21]: At the next meeting. [0:34:22, 0:34:23]: That's great. [0:34:23, 0:34:28]: Mm-hmm. And the last just I didn't understand the acronym B R E program. What does that say for? [0:34:29, 0:34:30]: Business recruitment in [0:34:30, 0:34:31]: And uh [0:34:32, 0:34:33]: Business recruitment and retention. [0:34:33, 0:34:35]: Okay. The R R program. [0:34:39, 0:34:50]: Or did I put the BRE program? It says BRE and I I wasn't I didn't uh I wasn't sure what that okay business recruitment and expansion. And I sent yeah, I sent that template. [0:34:51, 0:34:54]: Uh with the with the agenda and all the documents. [0:34:56, 0:34:56]: Right. [0:34:57, 0:35:01]: So if if if you all could if the committee could review that and [0:35:01, 0:35:05]: I'm I'm taking all suggestions pertaining to that program. [0:35:05, 0:35:06]: And we'll discuss that again. [0:35:07, 0:35:08]: At the [0:35:08, 0:35:10]: At the uh November first meeting. [0:35:11, 0:35:15]: All right. So we'll we have that template and I'll provide an RFI template as well. [0:35:17, 0:35:21]: Excellent. Anyone else have comments or questions for Alan? [0:35:23, 0:35:43]: All right, we'll move on to uh uh council McGantt is not um uh present, so we'll move on to the there's no new business to discuss on the agenda. So uh old business, uh downtown strategic work plan. Uh Alan mentioned uh one of the committee assignments. Uh I also [0:35:43, 0:36:03]: So uh was I'm leading the uh Tourism Development Committee and we did meet uh late in September. And basically we just kind of introduced the committee, the tasks that were associated with it, and established the committee. So there's not a lot to report there other than the fact that we've met, we've established the committee, and then we [0:36:03, 0:36:23]: We we shared the task and I've asked for feedback from the committee as far as uh who the appropriate assignees are for each of the tasks and appropriate timelines. So I'll probably have more substantive to report in our next meeting regarding that. Um any any comments or questions on any of the committees? And I know, Kiri, you've you've scheduled the [0:36:23, 0:36:43]: the ones that you're leading as well for starting a number. Yes, and I just wanted to um just comment that Main Street staff has been just extremely busy in September and turns out in October as well. So we were unable to host our work plan committees that we are um lead um designated [0:36:42, 0:36:52]: lead on. So um we weren't able to host those as we had hoped in the month of October. But new dates um have been sent out to [0:36:52, 0:37:03]: um to committee members as you've mentioned. Um but just wanted to say that downtown connectivity and design has been scheduled for November 2nd for our first meeting at 6 p.m. [0:37:04, 0:37:12]: And then the downtown beautification and activation um meeting is gonna be on a Wednesday, November the 10th. [0:37:12, 0:37:25]: And again, I've sent those um meeting invitations out to those people who have signed up for those particular committees. And I'm looking forward to meeting, going over our task list. [0:37:25, 0:37:30]: And um getting feedback. So I'll be able to report something at our next meeting, hopefully. [0:37:31, 0:37:31]: Right. [0:37:31, 0:37:47]: And and I'm I'll go ahead and mention, and this goes for I think all of the committees, um, we're you know, each of the bo e uh every one of the uh Main Street NDDA members were asked to um, you know, participate in at least one of the committees. But I I do wanna say [0:37:48, 0:37:58]: All the committees are open to anyone who wishes to participate or to attend. I think the only caveat I would throw in there would be to um [0:37:58, 0:38:01]: uh just if it's going to cause a quorum. [0:38:02, 0:38:22]: for either the DDA or the Main Street just to you know be careful because then it becomes subject to open records laws and we would have to you know uh publish the meet you know do all that stuff so um but if any of you are interested in another committee and just uh hearing or participating uh in something other than the one you were assigned contact myself [0:38:21, 0:38:24]: Kira or Alan and we'll be happy to include you. [0:38:27, 0:38:47]: All right. Um I have uh administrative zoo zoom storage increase as the next item. Um just basically we've increased our zoom storage for this uh service here. We had um it it kind of doubled the cost, which I was a little frustrated with, but because we only have one meeting a month, but okay. [0:38:47, 0:39:07]: That's that's that was this the that was their price point. That's how they get the people, I guess. But um so that's been done and um and we'll take care of that. But um the next item, and so thank you to the board for uh uh supporting that uh expense. So the um main item I wanted to touch on today for everyone's uh vote. [0:39:06, 0:39:26]: And approval is the uh updated DDA bylaws. So uh special thanks to Samequa and Bob and our attorney who has helped us. We've met uh uh several times to go over the existing bylaws and sort of uh weed through the areas that um we felt needed update. Uh a lot of this was spotted. [0:39:26, 0:39:46]: respond by the um there was a requirement in the uh current in our current set of bylaws that um that we had to um uh name a recording secretary, but then it wasn't clear as to whether that recording secretary is or is not a board member or whether that role could be served by the existing [0:39:46, 0:39:58]: voted secretary. So it was very ambiguous. And that's what kind of caused us to look at the bylaws and then clean up some of the other language. So um I've shared the um [0:39:58, 0:40:18]: the the uh the draft, the proposed draft with uh everyone on uh October the thirteenth. You should have received it via email. Uh I'm happy to share it on the screen and we can go through it line by line or we can just uh go directly to move to vote. Um I'll kind of open it up for general discussion if anyone has any preference on how to uh [0:40:18, 0:40:29]: proceed with approving uh consideration for approving the bylaws. Um any thoughts on that? This is the uh these are the these are the bylaws. There's a lot of legalese, obviously, but uh [0:40:30, 0:40:36]: Um any did any I but I guess I'll ask did everyone have the opportunity to review them and are there any questions? [0:40:37, 0:40:37]: Yeah. [0:40:41, 0:40:41]: No. [0:40:41, 0:40:46]: I think we can just vote on them since we've had two board members and our attorney. [0:40:47, 0:40:54]: Um and and had a few days to look at it ourselves, I'll be okay with just voting on it instead of going line by line. [0:40:54, 0:40:54]: All right. [0:40:56, 0:41:00]: Does anyone need more time to review it? I'll I guess ask the question that way. [0:41:01, 0:41:03]: I know we all have other commitments and [0:41:05, 0:41:21]: Okay, not hearing any, then uh I'll go ahead and make the motion that we adopt the uh revised uh DDA bylaws um as presented and shared with the uh group on um the that was sent to the group uh to the DDA board on October the thirteenth. [0:41:24, 0:41:25]: A second. [0:41:27, 0:41:30]: Roger barber second. [0:41:31, 0:41:36]: Any um any discussion or comments, questions from anyone? [0:41:40, 0:41:45]: Okay, hearing none, seeing none. Um looking for some equal. [0:41:46, 0:42:06]: Samik, were you still with us? I'm here, yes. Oh, good. I didn't sorry. I didn't see you on the list for a second. Uh all right. So we will uh we will do this by uh by vote. So all those in favor of adopting the revised uh bylaws, please uh raise your hand in approval. Yes. And I hear yes from Samik. [0:42:06, 0:42:11]: Equa and I see uh art barbas and my hand. Um [0:42:11, 0:42:31]: Bob, are you still with us? Yes. Okay. And Bob is yes. All right. So we have a unanimous approval. Thank you all for your support on that. And thank you again to the uh committee, uh Samiquan Bob, for all the work that you did on that. That's um, I think it's a much cleaner outcome. And that is the last item on the agenda. [0:42:31, 0:42:35]: agenda for today. I'll open it up for general discussions or questions from anyone. [0:42:39, 0:42:43]: Has anybody heard anything about how the the restaurant is going? [0:42:46, 0:42:47]: I have not said. [0:42:48, 0:42:55]: Has uh I don't know Alan if you or or even Kira if you would hear anything from the Sylvain project. [0:42:59, 0:43:01]: I have not heard anything. [0:43:01, 0:43:01]: Yeah. [0:43:02, 0:43:05]: I know the city is still using it as storage. [0:43:07, 0:43:11]: Which you know, I found odd they don't own the property anymore. [0:43:13, 0:43:17]: I s I saw some activity. I don't think that they're supposed to be. [0:43:17, 0:43:22]: I think that um there were some things put in there unbeknownst to [0:43:22, 0:43:23]: Um [0:43:23, 0:43:25]: I guess the [0:43:25, 0:43:27]: City manager who had the [0:43:28, 0:43:30]: The space cleaned out prior. [0:43:30, 0:43:38]: Um, to them taking possession of the building. I think some things were put in there, thinking that it was still okay to put stuff in there. [0:43:38, 0:43:39]: All right. [0:43:39, 0:43:57]: I think I noticed activity it was w the day of the amphitheater, the day before, day after. It was right around their the grand opening of the amphitheater. I noticed the, you know, the door was open and they were getting stuff in and I was like, okay, that's city staff. That's not their property anymore. [0:43:57, 0:44:04]: Yeah, that that was observed and I think it's been um mentioned. So hopefully they're taking some action with that. [0:44:06, 0:44:08]: [2650.0, 2664.5]: Maybe the new owner needs to change the locks. But all right. No, I'd rather like I'd rather see, you know, obviously something go up there. But uh yeah, I come bob, thank you for asking that. I had the same question. Yeah, I'm just now that we have got the amphitheater open and so I'm I'm you know, um [0:44:25, 0:44:28]: Anxious to see that uh completed. [0:44:28, 0:44:29]: That's right. Restaurant. [0:44:30, 0:44:35]: I think we all are. Any other questions or comments before we close? [0:44:38, 0:44:45]: Okay, seeing none seeing none and hearing none, I will um I'll go ahead and make the motion to adjourn the meeting. Um [0:44:45, 0:44:46]: Anyone want a second? [0:44:47, 0:45:07]: Second. Okay. That was I heard it from Bob first. Bob second. Roger motion. All right. All those in favor, raise your hand. And I hear a yes from Samequa. All right. We are closing the meeting at 646 PM. Thank you all for your time and your service to the city. [0:45:07, 0:45:13]: Have a great evening. Bye-bye. You too, boy. Thank you. Good night, everyone. Good night. Thank you. Good night. [0:45:14, 0:45:15]: Good night.

--- title: November 8 2021 City Council Meeting date: 2021-11-08 source: 2021-11-08_November_8_2021_City_Council_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:49, 0:00:51]: Good evening, everyone. [0:00:54, 0:00:55]: Good evening to you. [0:00:55, 0:00:56]: Good evening. [0:00:59, 0:01:00]: Um [0:01:03, 0:01:06]: Testing, testing, testing. Can you hear me? [0:01:06, 0:01:08]: Yeah, absolutely. We hear you loud and clear. [0:01:13, 0:01:19]: Okay. Mayor, can you hear me? Yes, I hear you. You're good. I hear you. Okay, yeah. Okay, that's [0:01:23, 0:01:24]: You should be good. [0:01:53, 0:01:57]: Alrighty, so what do we have here? We've got [0:01:58, 0:02:02]: Okay, five. [0:02:05, 0:02:06]: I think [0:02:27, 0:02:28]: Okay. [0:02:31, 0:02:37]: Our folks are looking for a quorum and uh for our attorneys as well. [0:02:39, 0:02:40]: Okay. [0:02:50, 0:02:54]: Mm-hmm. [0:03:02, 0:03:07]: We're now recording on Facebook Live as well. Just so you know that, ladies and gentlemen. [0:03:23, 0:03:24]: Mm-hmm. [0:03:29, 0:03:30]: Alrighty. [0:03:34, 0:03:35]: Mm. [0:03:36, 0:03:36]: Mm-hmm. [0:03:41, 0:03:46]: Well, we're still missing. We don't have a quorum yet and we're still missing our attorney. [0:03:53, 0:03:55]: Okay. [0:04:06, 0:04:09]: Uh, Mr. Washington's there, I see his uh name. [0:04:09, 0:04:11]: Okay, Washington Sierra. [0:04:12, 0:04:19]: Okay, Debbie. Good afternoon. How are you doing, Ms. Washington? Good one. How are you? All righty, sir. Okay, Mr. Thomas popped in. All right. [0:04:22, 0:04:25]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, I'll say that uh we have [0:04:26, 0:04:28]: Okay, let's see here. [0:04:33, 0:04:34]: Alrighty. [0:04:35, 0:04:41]: All right, I'd like to call the council meeting for November eighth, uh, two thousand twenty-one. I am six oh one. [0:04:41, 0:04:44]: And I'd like to call the meeting to order on that note. [0:04:44, 0:04:47]: Chief Tremor, sir, can you give the invocation, please? [0:04:49, 0:04:51]: Absolutely. Thank you, Mayor. We can all bow our heads. [0:04:52, 0:04:55]: Heavenly Father, we come to you today asking for your guidance. [0:04:56, 0:04:57]: For your wisdom. [0:04:57, 0:04:59]: And for your support as we begin this meeting. [0:05:00, 0:05:02]: Help us to engage in meaningful discussion. [0:05:03, 0:05:05]: Allow us to grow closer as a group. [0:05:06, 0:05:07]: And to nurture our bonds of community. [0:05:08, 0:05:10]: Dear Lord, we thank you for our veterans. [0:05:11, 0:05:17]: Uh we thank you for the worthy men and women who gave their best and were called upon to serve and protect this great country. [0:05:18, 0:05:21]: We pray that you will bless them for their unselfish service. [0:05:21, 0:05:26]: In the continual struggle struggle to preserve our freedoms, our safety. [0:05:26, 0:05:28]: And our country's heritage for us all. [0:05:29, 0:05:31]: We ask Father that you fill this with your grace. [0:05:33, 0:05:34]: Lord God, we [0:05:35, 0:05:40]: Ask that you help us make decisions that might affect all those who live, work, and play in this community. [0:05:40, 0:05:42]: And continue to remind us. [0:05:42, 0:05:44]: That all we do here today. [0:05:44, 0:05:46]: All that we accomplished. [0:05:46, 0:05:48]: It's for the pursuit of truth. [0:05:48, 0:05:50]: For the greater glory of you. [0:05:50, 0:05:52]: And for the service of humanity. [0:05:52, 0:05:55]: We ask all these things in your heavenly name. [0:05:56, 0:05:57]: Amen. Amen. [0:05:58, 0:06:02]: Okay, need to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance, please. [0:06:04, 0:06:18]: I pledge allegiance. Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic to stand one nation under God, individual liberty and justice for all. [0:06:22, 0:06:29]: And um on that note, I'll need the um an actual roll call, by the way. Um Madam Clerk, please. [0:06:31, 0:06:33]: Yes, Mayor Ford. Present. [0:06:34, 0:06:35]: May I approach him Alexander? [0:06:36, 0:06:38]: Present. Councilwoman Barber. [0:06:38, 0:06:39]: That's it. [0:06:39, 0:06:40]: Councilman Blount. [0:06:42, 0:06:43]: Present. [0:06:44, 0:06:45]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:06:48, 0:06:53]: Let the record reflect Councilwoman Gantt is not in attendance. Councilman Thomas. [0:06:53, 0:06:54]: Roger. [0:06:54, 0:06:55]: Mayor Ford, you have a quorum. [0:06:56, 0:06:57]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate that. [0:06:57, 0:07:00]: Council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda. [0:07:02, 0:07:03]: Mayor. Yes, sir. [0:07:04, 0:07:07]: I like to move I move. [0:07:07, 0:07:11]: To amend the agenda to remove item eleven. [0:07:12, 0:07:12]: Twell. [0:07:13, 0:07:14]: Fourteen [0:07:15, 0:07:16]: And fifteen. [0:07:17, 0:07:21]: To allow for vendors to present updates. [0:07:21, 0:07:26]: timelines and status of all associated projects. [0:07:26, 0:07:31]: uh at the um november thirtieth work session [0:07:31, 0:07:33]: And I would also ask [0:07:33, 0:07:35]: If council is willing [0:07:35, 0:07:37]: To uh consent. [0:07:37, 0:07:48]: uh to those items coming forward. And if I need to explain a little bit more, I'm willing to do that. But I move to uh to table those uh agenda items. [0:07:49, 0:07:50]: Is there a second? [0:07:53, 0:07:53]: Is there a second? [0:07:54, 0:08:08]: I'll second that, but there are a couple of other items that I want to table as well. Do I make a separate? Yes, make a separate. Make a separate because he already made one motion. So you second that. Okay. So all in favor of that motion, please indicate. [0:08:10, 0:08:13]: Please please read those motions out, please. [0:08:15, 0:08:16]: I [0:08:16, 0:08:17]: To a man [0:08:18, 0:08:20]: Agenda items. [0:08:20, 0:08:22]: Number eleven. [0:08:23, 0:08:24]: Twelve. [0:08:24, 0:08:26]: Fourteen, fifteen. [0:08:27, 0:08:30]: to allow for vendors to present [0:08:31, 0:08:34]: Updates, timeline, and status of all [0:08:35, 0:08:38]: projects at the uh work session meeting. [0:08:39, 0:08:54]: Mayor, if you would like, I I uh I I can explain the motion. Uh if if you if you allow if that would help clarify if that'll help you. I just want the public to understand what they are. There's nothing on this screen to tell the public what that is. [0:08:55, 0:08:55]: Okay. [0:08:56, 0:08:58]: Well, mayor, if I may just let me just say [0:08:59, 0:09:01]: before us, before the council. [0:09:01, 0:09:04]: There are several um [0:09:05, 0:09:08]: contracts that we are scheduled to approve tonight. [0:09:09, 0:09:10]: And I find it [0:09:11, 0:09:12]: You know [0:09:13, 0:09:15]: For me not to be able to approve [0:09:16, 0:09:17]: А the contract [0:09:18, 0:09:19]: With the language [0:09:20, 0:09:21]: На спинки [0:09:22, 0:09:23]: Uh updates. [0:09:24, 0:09:27]: Timelines and status and as you know. [0:09:27, 0:09:29]: There are a couple of vendors. [0:09:29, 0:09:33]: One contract has 19 projects, one has fifteen. [0:09:34, 0:09:52]: And you know, going back, we we have no updates, we have no status, we have no timeline when they will be uh concluded. So I just think going forward, uh the language in these contracts that we are going to approve. [0:09:52, 0:09:53]: I think [0:09:53, 0:09:55]: Those concerns. [0:09:55, 0:09:57]: need to be included. [0:09:58, 0:10:03]: Uh in this contract for us to approve, understanding that we need to understand. [0:10:04, 0:10:17]: Um, you know, we need to be able to see uh updates, timelines, and and and current status uh as we go forward, as these projects move forward. This is the information that the council. [0:10:17, 0:10:22]: need to be abreast of in going forward with all of the projects that we have on the books. [0:10:23, 0:10:43]: Okay, let me say this. Number 11 was council consideration to approve continuation of contract that deals with the engineering services, Falcon Design, Consultant Services. Number 12, Council consideration approved continuation of contract. Public Works Department requesting approval to continue to continue utilizing RFP number. Uh what [0:10:43, 0:11:03]: number here engineering services with uh scatter systems and that deals with the contract Carter and SLU. Uh council number 14 is council consideration approved contract renewal um and this is reference to renewing the contract uh for the in reference to keck and wood involving development the community development uh construction project [0:11:03, 0:11:20]: project manager Kekin Wood. And number 16, excuse me, number 15 dealt with council consideration approved continuance of contract and involves a finance department in reference to an RFP. And that deals with Intodev Technologies LLC. Those what those highlights are. [0:11:20, 0:11:25]: Okay. A motion has been made in a second. All approval uh all approved the motion, please indicate. [0:11:26, 0:11:32]: Okay, and it seemed like Mr. Okay, Mr. Blount? May I uh I have a question. [0:11:33, 0:11:34]: Well [0:11:35, 0:11:38]: Okay, you when you get a person check or you have a question? [0:11:39, 0:11:40]: What's the question, sir? [0:11:41, 0:11:47]: Well, I'm looking at I'm I'm looking at the um the different um [0:11:48, 0:11:50]: Um calls for [0:11:50, 0:11:51]: Tabling. [0:11:52, 0:12:03]: Um my my concern now is when we look at I'm looking at number eleven, which is Falcon Design. And we're looking at tabling um [0:12:04, 0:12:06]: This renewal [0:12:06, 0:12:10]: Based on nineteen projects already been in depth then with this company. [0:12:11, 0:12:12]: Uh with Falcon Design. [0:12:13, 0:12:14]: Um [0:12:15, 0:12:16]: My concern is that [0:12:17, 0:12:24]: Um, if there is any updates needed to be done, we you know, with the with the dynamics of things that just happened with the removal of our [0:12:25, 0:12:33]: Um, past city manager, uh, one of the things we do, and I think the council does need updates on what's going on with the projects at hand. [0:12:34, 0:12:35]: But how do we [0:12:36, 0:12:56]: Justify moving these projects forward when we're not renewing a contract on a company that has nineteen projects already in uh progress. But what's gonna happen is that part of the motion deals with uh reviewing these uh on the third uh next work sessions the thirtieth this month. And then between today and the um and well we'll say say tomorrow and the thirtieth, you'll be getting updates. [0:12:56, 0:13:00]: to be tasked to do that in this aspect. Gotta have to happen. [0:13:00, 0:13:02]: Mr. Thomas Gabe, please. [0:13:02, 0:13:08]: I I I I do wanna state that uh I am in favor of Falcon and I'm in favor of the contracts. [0:13:08, 0:13:12]: Uh, I don't want to folks to misunderstand that I'm not in favor of the contract. [0:13:13, 0:13:15]: I am in favor of the contract. [0:13:15, 0:13:17]: But I just think the language. [0:13:18, 0:13:20]: In the contract. [0:13:20, 0:13:22]: Не то спіть ту. [0:13:22, 0:13:39]: uh updates, timeline, and status. And I think that is important for council to be informed. You know, here we are getting ready to approve a contract and we don't know the status of a project. And I won't get into any individual project, but [0:13:40, 0:14:00]: You know, there are projects that's been on this list going on now two years and and you know, we just don't have information. We don't know updates, we don't know when it's gonna conclude, et cetera, et cetera. But I just think for us as a council to make sure we're doing our due diligence and folks are being accountable. [0:13:59, 0:14:13]: So, you know, us as a council, staff, and our vendors, we all need to be accountable in going forward and making sure that we are doing all that we can do to be efficient. [0:14:14, 0:14:22]: And effective legislators. And I just think we need this information in order for us to be efficient and effective. [0:14:24, 0:14:27]: All right. Hopefully Councilman Blount that answers your question as well. [0:14:28, 0:14:34]: Well I think uh uh mayor, if you will, I I think that what what uh Councilman Thomas just said [0:14:35, 0:14:39]: It's something I think we all want. And what also what he said in that is that [0:14:40, 0:14:43]: You know, I just don't want us to continue tabling uh [0:14:44, 0:14:50]: Uh doing a lot of tabling when we can handle the handle it here. If there's a contingency on this contract to put in [0:14:50, 0:14:52]: Put other language in. [0:14:52, 0:14:57]: uh to approve this contract with that contingency with that language to be put in and if there's a dispute. [0:14:58, 0:15:01]: with that language being put in and then we bring that back to the council. [0:15:02, 0:15:08]: But there's not a dispute for that being put in, then why are we continuing the table in something we could take care of tonight? [0:15:08, 0:15:09]: That's my only concern. [0:15:10, 0:15:13]: All right. Uh stand by Councilman Thomas. Councilman Barber, you had your hand up. [0:15:15, 0:15:22]: Yes, um I believe the purpose is so that we can get status updates from those specific [0:15:22, 0:15:23]: Contractors. [0:15:24, 0:15:28]: I would prefer that they come here and report it to us. [0:15:28, 0:15:31]: If they don't want to give us status updates at the meetings. [0:15:32, 0:15:33]: That information [0:15:33, 0:15:34]: Should be [0:15:34, 0:15:36]: Um forwarded to us. [0:15:36, 0:15:38]: Directly from the city manager. [0:15:38, 0:15:40]: But because we don't have a city manager. [0:15:40, 0:15:42]: We need updates to them. [0:15:42, 0:15:54]: Counseling also mentioned about once we get those status updates, then we can add all of these contracts to a consent agenda to approve them at our next meeting. [0:15:55, 0:15:56]: It's my understanding. [0:15:56, 0:15:58]: I will tell you that. [0:15:58, 0:15:59]: Fire. [0:15:59, 0:16:01]: At the end of December. [0:16:02, 0:16:03]: So we still have time. [0:16:04, 0:16:18]: Well, I would tell you that each one of these contracts, these individual contracts, these individuals are online right now to give an update if that was the desire of the council in this aspect. Now, but they are available. They're online at this point. Uh Councilman Thomas, go ahead, please. Well [0:16:19, 0:16:23]: For an example, um, there are nineteen projects with with Falcon. [0:16:24, 0:16:42]: I I don't think it's is it's time-wise to let them go through all 19 projects here tonight. And let me also say that the current contract does not end until December. So it's not like they're not going to continue working. [0:16:42, 0:16:46]: All I'm saying is that we're just moving the approval. [0:16:46, 0:16:50]: of the contract going forward for twenty twenty two, if you will. [0:16:50, 0:16:53]: Just a few weeks from now, but I just think that [0:16:53, 0:17:10]: uh the the the the issue that i'm raising is just to have more information updates timeline and status and that that's the only difference the work will continue i'm in favor of falcon uh without a doubt but i just think the language [0:17:11, 0:17:21]: The language in the contract need to spell out those specific things so that the council can be informed. [0:17:23, 0:17:28]: All right, so be it. Any other comments before we finalize this vote here and move on. [0:17:29, 0:17:32]: Motion was made was seconded. So all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:17:34, 0:17:36]: Okay, okay. [0:17:36, 0:17:37]: Uh Mr. Blount. [0:17:38, 0:17:42]: You oppose? You abstain. So 301, motion passed. [0:17:42, 0:17:43]: All right. [0:17:43, 0:17:47]: Councilman Barber, you had another amendment to the to the agenda, I believe. [0:17:48, 0:17:51]: Yes, I wanted to table [0:17:51, 0:17:54]: Items sixteen and seventeen. [0:17:55, 0:17:56]: That is [0:17:56, 0:17:58]: Um the council consideration to approve. [0:17:59, 0:18:04]: Police department job descriptions, organizational chart, and paying classifications. [0:18:04, 0:18:06]: And number seven teen. [0:18:06, 0:18:09]: Council consideration to approve the purchase of [0:18:09, 0:18:10]: Police department vehicles. [0:18:12, 0:18:14]: Um and if necessary, we can do a [0:18:14, 0:18:15]: Special call meeting. [0:18:16, 0:18:17]: Later this week. [0:18:17, 0:18:19]: There are some additional questions. [0:18:19, 0:18:20]: That um [0:18:21, 0:18:22]: I have and I know. [0:18:22, 0:18:25]: Other council members may have questions as well. [0:18:27, 0:18:29]: I well, all right. Is there a second to this particular? [0:18:30, 0:18:30]: A motion. [0:18:31, 0:18:33]: Uh Councilman Blount, you second that motion. [0:18:33, 0:18:34]: Yes, sir. [0:18:34, 0:18:34]: All right. [0:18:35, 0:18:37]: Okay, all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:18:38, 0:18:44]: Mayor, can can I have the discussion first? Yeah, you go ahead, sir. Discussion. Go ahead, please. [0:18:44, 0:18:48]: Uh I I I'd like to get uh Chief Tremor to sort of [0:18:49, 0:18:51]: respond to some of that um [0:18:52, 0:19:02]: I I did have a a brief conversation with him and and it's no excuse, but you know, I've been a s a little down, didn't get a chance to review. [0:19:02, 0:19:08]: Um the agenda packet, it was rather lengthy. It's a lot of information to digest. [0:19:09, 0:19:12]: And I tried to do a quick conversation with him and [0:19:12, 0:19:16]: There were some some concerns that came out of that. So Chief, do you want to [0:19:18, 0:19:18]: Oh [0:19:19, 0:19:21]: Do do you want to speak now or? [0:19:23, 0:19:30]: I'd be glad to. I know we didn't have an opportunity to um discuss in length, but as it relates to item sixteen. [0:19:30, 0:19:37]: Uh the council consideration to approve police department job descriptions orb chart and pay classifications. [0:19:37, 0:19:40]: Um that's a very broad uh proposal. [0:19:40, 0:19:47]: And um what we're looking for most immediately is council approval to bring on four positions. [0:19:48, 0:19:51]: to assist with the implementation of the police department. [0:19:51, 0:20:01]: Um we don't have to assess every job description and uh pay classification at this moment, but I can tell you that there was conversation with Miss Wheeler. [0:20:01, 0:20:07]: where we have done a salary study to make sure that these salaries are in alignment with uh the current salaries. [0:20:07, 0:20:09]: And um [0:20:09, 0:20:12]: Really the the the key thing is we have a lot of work to do here. [0:20:13, 0:20:18]: Um and there's a lot of heavy lifting that's going to be required to move this department forward. [0:20:18, 0:20:29]: And um, you know, it's it's important to get some people on initially to be able to divide a lot of the responsibilities in order to make sure that we meet our July one timeframe. [0:20:30, 0:20:37]: And as it relates to item 17 regarding the acquisition of vehicles, I just want to impress upon council the urgency of this purchase. [0:20:37, 0:20:41]: Uh you all know that there's a supply chain shortage for vehicles. [0:20:41, 0:20:53]: And um this is something that needs to be decided on um very quickly in order to be able to receive these vehicles in enough time to be able to meet our July one timeframe. [0:20:53, 0:21:03]: And the only thing that I would like for you to consider is that if we do not make that mark of July one, we are not receiving the full rollback from the county, uh the two million dollars nearly in taxes. [0:21:03, 0:21:14]: And we will have to arrange probably for some sort of service delivery strategy or agreement with Henry County PD to continue services because I'm confident that if we don't make a decision on the vehicle in the next week or two. [0:21:14, 0:21:23]: That we will be be be behind such that it will delay us in implementation of the department on July one. So I just wanted [0:21:23, 0:21:28]: Wanted everybody to be fully aware of the uh repercussions of delaying these decisions. [0:21:30, 0:21:36]: All right. Uh Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. So let me ask you this if I may. So [0:21:37, 0:21:40]: Um agenda item [0:21:44, 0:21:45]: Sixteen [0:21:45, 0:21:48]: If we table that until um [0:21:49, 0:21:52]: A special call meeting or a work session. [0:21:52, 0:21:55]: Well, that would that sort of suffice. [0:21:55, 0:21:56]: Um [0:21:57, 0:22:02]: in in your uh a gen in your plan to move forward. [0:22:02, 0:22:05]: I I do understand about the vehicles. [0:22:05, 0:22:21]: Uh but just going back to and the vehicles is agenda item 17. 16 is the uh department job description, organization chart, et cetera, et cetera. So if we table 16 and went forward with 17. [0:22:21, 0:22:26]: Uh would that still put you in line with your uh progress going forward? [0:22:27, 0:22:32]: See, the hope was uh councilman Thomas to be able to get council approval for these positions this evening because [0:22:33, 0:22:38]: The folks that we look to bring on board will need to provide sufficient notice to their employer. [0:22:38, 0:22:46]: We table this to the 30th, then we'll be looking at January before we're able to bring people on. And my hope we'd be able to bring them on in December. [0:22:46, 0:22:51]: so that we could begin the work that needs to happen in order to move this uh this initiative forward. [0:22:55, 0:22:57]: Okay, Miss Thomas, is that it for you, sir? [0:22:58, 0:23:08]: Well, I it it is because I don't wanna hog it, but um I I just sort of still have some some concern with that we're talking a matter of um I guess a few weeks. [0:23:08, 0:23:09]: Um [0:23:10, 0:23:12]: And you know, and then [0:23:13, 0:23:14]: Uh, Chief, you know, and I [0:23:15, 0:23:18]: I really didn't want to get into this at this point. [0:23:18, 0:23:22]: See even the the advertisement of of positions [0:23:22, 0:23:30]: Which has to hap has to happen. And that's what I was alluding to earlier, that there are some procedural [0:23:30, 0:23:34]: uh step that has not taken place. [0:23:34, 0:23:40]: Uh and that's what I wanted to sort of talk to you about, but you know, we just didn't have time to talk about those, but [0:23:40, 0:23:42]: Um d those are a must. [0:23:43, 0:23:50]: uh in this process in municipal government, you know, the advertisement of position, you know, that is a must. [0:23:51, 0:23:55]: Um I didn't really want to use this platform to to get into that, but [0:23:55, 0:23:56]: Um [0:23:57, 0:24:02]: I I would recommend Chief if if if we could if we could delay that that [0:24:02, 0:24:05]: uh agenda item agenda item um [0:24:05, 0:24:06]: Sixteen. [0:24:07, 0:24:08]: Um [0:24:10, 0:24:14]: There there are some things that I just need to have a conversation with you about and [0:24:14, 0:24:17]: And I don't know why some of these things did not happen. [0:24:17, 0:24:18]: Um [0:24:19, 0:24:24]: But it did not happen. But these are a musts in municipal government. [0:24:25, 0:24:36]: Councilman, I understand your your uh position, sir. I certainly do. I can tell you that uh if you you look at a number of agencies that have started up, uh typically in most organizations we do. [0:24:36, 0:24:46]: uh put this information out, but uh as it relates to the startup, uh the chief is given considerable latitude in terms of members that they bring on board for their implementation team. [0:24:47, 0:24:54]: So that's not typically something that we've seen in any of the startup departments where all those positions have been advertised before they've been filled. [0:24:54, 0:25:04]: And if I'm not mistaken, the charter, if I'm not mistaken, uh does give the director of the division the latitude to make those appointments for those positions. [0:25:04, 0:25:10]: I did bring the candidates that I was considering before Mayor Ford, who's had the opportunity to meet with those candidates in advance. [0:25:11, 0:25:15]: And I can tell you those candidates are qualified. However, I'm not in a position to be able to speak to [0:25:15, 0:25:24]: uh these individuals specifically uh because obviously uh they are currently employed, but I did want to just just make that uh statement. [0:25:25, 0:25:45]: And I would know the fact that obviously I did meet all those gentlemen and I think they're well well excellent, qualified individuals. In reference to the the charter, uh our attorneys here, in reference to the the what uh Chief mentioned about the charter, is that an accurate statement? One before we go any further, that um that a director has some type of latitude to do something like this, to bring these people forward. [0:25:46, 0:25:50]: Mayor, I off the top of my head, I don't know. This is Jeremy. I can look and [0:25:50, 0:25:55]: And see on the charter. I mean I I would think that sounds correct that a the department head should be able to [0:25:55, 0:25:58]: fill his or her position as they deem fit. [0:26:00, 0:26:10]: Okay, but if council but if council does issue the problem is is that typically councils don't go in this far into deciding about employees that a director would hire. [0:26:11, 0:26:13]: But if council ultimately decides to do that. [0:26:14, 0:26:19]: That would kind of be steering into the executive branch, but if council issued a directive, you can't hire anybody without letting us know. [0:26:20, 0:26:22]: And we have to prove them that's not completely new. [0:26:23, 0:26:25]: Stamp okay, thank you, gentlemen. [0:26:25, 0:26:28]: Uh Councilman Barber, did you have your hand up earlier? [0:26:28, 0:26:29]: Or not? [0:26:31, 0:26:33]: I I see you, Mr. Blount. I see you. [0:26:34, 0:26:37]: If not, okay, Ms. Okay, no problem. Ms. Blanc, go ahead, please. [0:26:38, 0:26:44]: Mm Mr. Knighton, uh I'm I'm Mr. Wiggins for me, sir. Mr. Wiggins, uh uh [0:26:44, 0:26:47]: Not wiggles uh I'll say the attorneys, let me put it that way. [0:26:48, 0:26:52]: Um, department heads have had the latitude of hiring. [0:26:53, 0:26:58]: But they've had the latitude of hiring from those that have been applied to the position that's been posted. [0:26:59, 0:27:04]: So the latitude of hiring from any department head has been there. [0:27:04, 0:27:08]: But it came from a pool of those that had been posted for the position. [0:27:08, 0:27:13]: as we're doing even now when it comes to uh uh our city manager's position. [0:27:14, 0:27:17]: The mayor has the latitude to bring that person forward. [0:27:17, 0:27:22]: But that person is coming from a pool of that which has been posted. So I would like to know. [0:27:22, 0:27:22]: Yeah. [0:27:23, 0:27:33]: those hirings can happen without positions being posted uh when it comes to uh government positions like that. Uh secondly, um [0:27:33, 0:27:36]: Um chief tramer with these vehicles. [0:27:36, 0:27:40]: Have the budget because th these vehicles are the purchase price. [0:27:40, 0:27:44]: has the price because these vehicles need to be fitted. [0:27:44, 0:27:55]: Has the price with the fitting of these vehicles also been brought forward also with these vehicles? What is going to cost to have each to have those many vehicles fitted? [0:27:55, 0:28:00]: What with the point of order, Mayor Ford, all I ask [0:28:00, 0:28:07]: is to table these two items. We're going into discussions specifically about the items. [0:28:07, 0:28:09]: When all I asked. [0:28:09, 0:28:10]: What's the table in? [0:28:11, 0:28:11]: All right. [0:28:11, 0:28:12]: Understood. [0:28:12, 0:28:21]: Uh Mayor, let me let me give an another point of order then on top of that. Go ahead, sir. That uh the point I I do agree with Councilwoman Barber. [0:28:22, 0:28:25]: Uh this item itself was to table or not table. [0:28:26, 0:28:46]: But if but if the question was has arisen that we're going to table it and then the questions has come to Chief Tramer about specifics on those items, this is no different than them specifics. When these items are brought up pertaining to the vehicles, the same thing is uh uh questioning the the validity of the the people that are coming forward for. [0:28:46, 0:28:49]: employees. I'm only I'm only uh uh [0:28:49, 0:28:55]: Uh question the validity of the uh contract when it comes to the bill. Come on, point of order. Let's call for the vote. [0:28:55, 0:28:56]: Can we see? [0:28:57, 0:29:02]: take a vote on whether or not people approve tabling these items. [0:29:02, 0:29:03]: Or not. [0:29:04, 0:29:09]: Then we can move through the agenda. Please, sir. Mayor, if I'm gonna sit back and respect [0:29:10, 0:29:14]: Each council member we call for a point of order and that please move it. [0:29:14, 0:29:16]: Stand stand by. Go ahead, Mr. Blount. You say what now? [0:29:17, 0:29:23]: If I'm gonna sit back and respect each council member to whatever question they have pertaining to this item. [0:29:24, 0:29:27]: then I very I I very well expect the same myself. [0:29:27, 0:29:32]: If that's not going to be the case, then we then it's up to you, Mayor, to decide that. [0:29:32, 0:29:38]: Okay, well here's what we're gonna do. The motion was made and and we got a second. So all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:29:40, 0:29:44]: All in favor of the motion, please indicate. All opposed the the motion, indicate. [0:29:45, 0:29:56]: Mr. Okay, so what I have is I got one person which is Councilman Barber that approves it, and I got one person which is Mayor Protema Alexander to oppose it. So otherwise the motion fails in this aspect. [0:29:57, 0:29:59]: Okay, now we have these we have uh [0:30:00, 0:30:04]: the motion fails motion fails so we have 16 17 on the on the agenda [0:30:05, 0:30:10]: Am I able to go forward or are we gonna or we're gonna have another motion on the floor to um to amend the agenda here? [0:30:11, 0:30:13]: Mr. Bru uh Mr. Thomas, please. [0:30:13, 0:30:15]: Let's move forward. [0:30:15, 0:30:16]: Okay. [0:30:16, 0:30:20]: It's just embarrassing. I mean Mr. Thomas, please. [0:30:20, 0:30:22]: I I I I I I withdraw. [0:30:23, 0:30:26]: All right. My come my time is. [0:30:26, 0:30:27]: All right. [0:30:27, 0:30:28]: All right. [0:30:28, 0:30:32]: Now so otherwise motions, I mean uh items 1617 remain on the agenda. [0:30:33, 0:30:49]: Now, what I do have in front of you, ladies and gentlemen, is I have two resolutions here. And these are resolutions that deal with reopening in-person meetings for the city council and also reopening the city hall and all of our municipal buildings to the public. [0:30:49, 0:30:59]: And so if you want to have further discussion about that, I would need these be added uh to the agenda so we can uh vote discuss and vote on these resolutions. [0:30:59, 0:31:00]: Is there so move? [0:31:01, 0:31:07]: Say the read it. I'm sorry. Read the read that again. I have I have two resolutions. I need to add to the agenda. [0:31:08, 0:31:10]: Resolution for reopening in person meetings. [0:31:10, 0:31:15]: for the city city stop breaks for our in-person meeting so we're no longer virtual like we are now. [0:31:15, 0:31:23]: And the other resolution deals with uh reopening city hall and also involving all the municipal buildings to the public. [0:31:23, 0:31:33]: Okay. Will we vote it? We'll be voting on these resolutions or if if if it's added to the agenda, it's not an agenda. So I need it so move and a second and then a vote and then we'll add it to the agenda if that's the case. [0:31:34, 0:31:35]: They're still moved. [0:31:35, 0:31:37]: Ms. Barber still moved it. Is there a second? [0:31:38, 0:31:40]: Second. All right. All in favor, please indicate. [0:31:41, 0:31:42]: One, two. [0:31:43, 0:31:55]: I got two discussion. Well, let's let's let's vote on this. Let's vote. Yeah, yeah or nay, and then we'll have discussion depending on what where we sit. So I I have two four. Is anybody else? [0:31:56, 0:31:58]: The discussion real quick. Well, okay. [0:32:00, 0:32:02]: Okay, uh two for two against. [0:32:04, 0:32:09]: Okay. So stand by. All right. We got two four. What's she discussing, Mr. Thomas? [0:32:10, 0:32:13]: When you proposed this uh some weeks ago. [0:32:14, 0:32:20]: I I I uh expressed my concerns about COVID protocol. [0:32:20, 0:32:25]: Uh putting things in place to make sure that we are prepared. [0:32:26, 0:32:28]: Two meet in person. [0:32:28, 0:32:31]: Being prepared to accommodate [0:32:31, 0:32:33]: uh citizens [0:32:33, 0:32:37]: uh coming into the building. I never got a response to that. [0:32:37, 0:32:42]: Um, you know, plexiglass in various location. [0:32:42, 0:32:45]: uh covet cleaning et cetera et cetera [0:32:46, 0:32:56]: I I cannot vote in favor of us going forward for in-person meeting until I know that these things are in place. Now, my last [0:32:57, 0:33:00]: Um view and of the [0:33:02, 0:33:10]: I'm sorry, was that a question? Go ahead, Mr. McThomas. Uh the last time that I looked at uh the the council's chamber. [0:33:10, 0:33:11]: Um [0:33:12, 0:33:14]: Something was just not in place. [0:33:15, 0:33:35]: Well, here's here's here's a couple of things for you then. And shame on me, but here's a couple of things. One, in reference to the chamber, there are no is no plexigas at the clerk's table and at the attorney's table at this time. And that is going to be ordered. Mr. I. It may take a couple of weeks to get that. If that is the case and we go forward with meeting the council chambers, which right now won't be until the 30th. [0:33:35, 0:33:55]: The month, if we approve this, unless there's some type of special call meeting to come before that, then you would my suggestion is we take the plexiglass from the actual um reception desk because our meetings typically would be in the evening hours anyway. Take the plexiglass from the reception desk and put it on front at both those tables uh in the council chambers, and then there [0:33:55, 0:33:56]: Yeah. [0:33:56, 0:34:16]: And on the count on the dais. There are already plastic glass posted on the dais for us uh council members. And then uh there have been also copies of of documents that have been posted, uh do not sit here in this aspect that have been separated in in the council chambers. Our assistant did those and show and laminated them and uh they should be posted on the [0:34:16, 0:34:36]: Chairs are right now, this aspect that's that's gonna be taken care of. The other thing is that you will people would have to come in with masks, with masks, have to wear masks, and it'll have to get cleared through one entry. Uh at the uh we'll relocate the temperature check from the employee entrance and put it at the uh entrance where citizens will come. [0:34:36, 0:34:56]: We'll only have one entry in at this time. And they would have to be cleared by our police officer. Right now we have Henry County police that are still given security in this aspect on a daily basis, as well as for our uh for our meetings. Uh security of the police officer will have me posted there uh with the temperature set. [0:34:56, 0:35:07]: in this aspect to make sure folks don't have a temperature. And uh we're not gonna be asking for a valid uh for um actual cards, uh vaccination cards at this point. [0:35:08, 0:35:09]: But there will be a requirement. [0:35:09, 0:35:11]: Of course to have a mass and get your temperature checked. [0:35:12, 0:35:14]: And then also what'll happen is that there'll be [0:35:15, 0:35:35]: um stickers on the on the carpet and over on the floor, separating uh individuals at least six feet apart as they do business downstairs uh with the with our employees down on the first floor. Or and also as well as when we have a council meeting, if that's the case, uh they'll be separated by six feet as they have to go through the security [0:35:34, 0:35:50]: check uh coming into the actual chambers itself. And there is a requirement, if there is a requirement for us to uh fully fog or uh in a sense to um have some type of assets to we we have to [0:35:51, 0:35:55]: kind of effumigate the entire city hall if it comes to that point if we have some type of case that causes that. [0:35:56, 0:36:08]: then uh we would take charge and and and fund that and and do that appropriately. Right now all we need is a deep uh some type of simple cleaning because no one's been in the council chambers in this aspect uh for well over a year and a half. [0:36:08, 0:36:22]: And then of course and and coming into City Hall, just the regular cleaning of a cleaning crew right now, because the citizens haven't been coming on a regular basis either. So and in this aspect. And so those things will be laid out in this process. [0:36:24, 0:36:25]: Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. Um [0:36:26, 0:36:30]: COVID cleaning going forward'cause once we uh start [0:36:30, 0:36:31]: In person. [0:36:31, 0:36:35]: Then those cleanings would need to be up to par number one. Number two. [0:36:35, 0:36:38]: Uh, is there a great [0:36:39, 0:36:45]: Is there a grade level for plexiglass that we should use? Because I'll be honest with you. [0:36:45, 0:36:48]: The the plexiglass that I see in the chamber. [0:36:50, 0:36:51]: Yeah. [0:36:52, 0:36:56]: Well, I I I my concern is that it's it's so thin. [0:36:56, 0:36:58]: I don't know if it meet the standard. [0:36:59, 0:37:09]: And I don't know what that standard is, so I'm just asking the question. Is there a grade of plexiglass that is recommended for COVID protocol? [0:37:09, 0:37:29]: Well, I would imagine I don't know what the grade is, but I would imagine when it was purchased some time ago, uh, that it meets the grade standards. I would only assume that. I would have to check in that further. In that aspect, um, I would have to check with uh Mr. Al Barnes, who is my understanding that purchased all this several, several months or so ago. So I'm assuming that that meets the standard because that's what was placed in there. And uh and then we may have. [0:37:29, 0:37:49]: actually have to uh purchase an additional temperature check um monitor also not only for city hall but also for our courthouse because if we open up city hall we'll open up a courthouse and of course upon renovation of the Merle Manders Conference Center we have to open that up as well uh so those are other things that have to occur but those those type of conversations are already had with [0:37:49, 0:38:09]: with uh staff members in this aspect. And shame on me if I didn't give you an update earlier. But that's some of the process that we will have to go through. And if we approve this and put on the agenda, it's my recommendation that we wouldn't open up the city hall until one few one week from today, which allows some additional time to get it to get the staff ready to deal with citizens on the [0:38:09, 0:38:14]: daily basis and make sure everything that we need to put in place will is actually in place. [0:38:17, 0:38:18]: Yes, sir. Go ahead, Mr. Blount. [0:38:19, 0:38:20]: Mayor, we've um [0:38:21, 0:38:32]: We've had the um Merrill Manders open on several occasions um for uh s various events. Yes. Amphitheater open with thousands of people. [0:38:32, 0:38:39]: We've attended events that uh we've attended uh things pertaining to those concerts in the green room. [0:38:39, 0:38:41]: Uh of the amphitheater. [0:38:41, 0:38:53]: Uh there's so much movement are going around not just just Henry County itself. And I think now is the time. I mean, the the cause I get is that people can't handle their business in the city of Stockbridge. [0:38:53, 0:39:12]: But basically only city hall has been closed to the public for handling their business. And most most business that are gonna be handled has been behind the glass blast plate uh wall anyway when it comes to those business licenses and all that's already been in place with the hand sanitation and and mass requirement. [0:39:12, 0:39:16]: And I do agree that there has to be some precautions on uh cleanings. [0:39:16, 0:39:25]: But everybody's open, and we're also having events when we deem to have events, and we've uh also inviting thousands of people into events, and we're doing so much. [0:39:25, 0:39:28]: We need to open City Hall to the public to to to handle their business. [0:39:29, 0:39:33]: Okay. You got business owners and citizens that want to come to City Hall to handle their business. [0:39:33, 0:39:39]: Because getting through on phone calls has not been the most easiest uh situation that uh that they've had. [0:39:41, 0:39:42]: And we get the vote. [0:39:42, 0:39:43]: Okay. [0:39:43, 0:39:54]: All right. So otherwise. Okay. So otherwise and definitely no more comments. So the two different resolutions. I mentioned those resolutions. So I need a so move for those resolutions. So move. Is there a second? [0:39:55, 0:40:06]: Mayor, we had a um Barber and Alexander made the first second. Okay, fine. We it's still the same. Oh Barber and Alexander, okay, fine. Correct. Okay, fine. Stay with that then. [0:40:06, 0:40:09]: And obviously have some discussion. So all in favor, please indicate. [0:40:11, 0:40:12]: Okay, all posts. [0:40:13, 0:40:15]: And Mr. Thomas, you should vote, sir. [0:40:17, 0:40:20]: We got three conf confirmations. Mr. Thomas, what's your vote, sir? [0:40:22, 0:40:23]: You're muted. [0:40:24, 0:40:30]: Abstain. Oh, you abstain. Okay. So on these two resolutions, we will add these, and this is uh [0:40:31, 0:40:36]: Uh new business we'll add these at uh let's see here. How about uh [0:40:38, 0:40:41]: We'll make it twenty number twenty-one and twenty-two. [0:40:42, 0:41:01]: All right. And with this, we'll have these since resolutions were brought up by our attorneys, we'll have our attorneys uh speak to those resolutions, number 21 and 22. Okay. Now, on that note, uh, are the any other amendments necessary? And if not, I need a motion to assent. I would ask a question. [0:41:01, 0:41:03]: In terms of um [0:41:04, 0:41:07]: We have staff members here that are gonna be waiting all night. [0:41:08, 0:41:11]: Uh, the Chief gonna be waiting all night to number sixteen and seventeen. [0:41:12, 0:41:17]: Is it would it be appropriate to move his items up to the front of the agenda so he's not waiting here all night? [0:41:17, 0:41:25]: Well uh until to for us to move forward. Well, per person, I'd I'd rather just follow the gender the way it is. He he's he's he's he's a chief, he'll be all right, he'll be fine. [0:41:26, 0:41:30]: That's that's my my my opinion on that, but it'll be fine. He'll be he'll be all right. [0:41:30, 0:41:31]: We'll be fine. [0:41:31, 0:41:35]: All right, so on that note, I need a motion to amend the overall agenda, please. [0:41:36, 0:41:38]: Is there a second? [0:41:38, 0:41:41]: Ms. Barber, you second that? All in favor, please indicate. [0:41:42, 0:41:51]: Fantastic. Okay, got a unanimous decision on that. On that note, um, the motion to adopt the following minutes, which would be the council meeting on September 13th. [0:41:51, 0:41:56]: And also the council work session on September twenty-eighth. I need a motion to adopt those minutes, please. [0:41:57, 0:41:58]: So moved. [0:41:58, 0:41:59]: Zero second. [0:42:01, 0:42:05]: Is there a second? All right. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. All in favor, please indicate. [0:42:07, 0:42:15]: Okay, uh I got three. Mr. Thomas, are you proven? You're proving that? Okay, so it's four. All right, good deal. Thank you. [0:42:15, 0:42:16]: Um [0:42:17, 0:42:21]: Madam Clerk, any public comments? We do, Mayor. We have one public comment tonight. [0:42:21, 0:42:22]: Go right here, please. [0:42:25, 0:42:33]: On behalf, oh I'm sorry, this public comment is from Mr. Charles Marshall, president of the Henry County Coalition Committee. [0:42:34, 0:42:36]: One forty Somerset Hills McDonald's. [0:42:36, 0:42:37]: Okay. [0:42:38, 0:42:45]: On behalf of the Henry County Coalition Committee, we send our sincere congratulations to you, Mayor Ford. [0:42:45, 0:42:50]: and council members of Stockbridge on your reelections back to the Stockbridge City government. [0:42:51, 0:42:56]: We now look forward to your continued efforts in moving this great city forward. [0:42:56, 0:43:06]: Our community has so many things to be thankful for, and I'm sure that we all agree that there is still and always will be much more to be done. [0:43:07, 0:43:14]: Your success in bringing us the amphitheater is just a sample of what can be done if we stay the course. [0:43:15, 0:43:24]: Bringing the community, its own police force, more robust business growth, and now plans for an arts cultural center. [0:43:24, 0:43:26]: A revitalized downtown. [0:43:27, 0:43:29]: Upgraded streets and trails. [0:43:29, 0:43:33]: In a premium development site called the Bridges of Jody Code. [0:43:33, 0:43:35]: It's now very much anticipated. [0:43:36, 0:43:39]: There is nothing easy in the job of being a public servant. [0:43:40, 0:43:44]: But we are thankful that you all have taken on this great task. [0:43:45, 0:43:49]: You are all gifted people charged with uniting. [0:43:49, 0:43:52]: and leading this community to a better tomorrow. [0:43:53, 0:43:58]: There will always be challenges and obstacles put in front of your every step. [0:43:58, 0:44:00]: Some even intentional. [0:44:00, 0:44:01]: However [0:44:01, 0:44:03]: All we have to decide. [0:44:03, 0:44:05]: It's what to do. [0:44:05, 0:44:07]: With the time that it's given us. [0:44:08, 0:44:10]: We must forgive one another. [0:44:10, 0:44:12]: For the things that we sometimes say. [0:44:13, 0:44:15]: And the way that we sometimes act. [0:44:16, 0:44:18]: We must do this because this city [0:44:18, 0:44:20]: And the people of the city. [0:44:20, 0:44:22]: And surrounding area. [0:44:22, 0:44:25]: А очень гретер than any one of us. [0:44:26, 0:44:27]: However [0:44:27, 0:44:32]: It takes every one of us to make this city as great as it should. [0:44:32, 0:44:33]: And can be. [0:44:34, 0:44:37]: As president of the Henry County Coalition Committee. [0:44:37, 0:44:50]: I pledge this organization to be good partners with the city and continue to support your efforts in making the city of Stockbridge and surrounding area a great place to live. [0:44:50, 0:44:51]: Work. [0:44:51, 0:44:52]: And play. [0:44:52, 0:44:54]: There are no further comments, Mayor. [0:44:54, 0:44:56]: Thank you, appreciate it. Thank you, Mr. Marshall. [0:44:57, 0:45:03]: Okay, on that note, uh we have several different ceremonial proclamations to read. And the very first one tonight. [0:45:03, 0:45:11]: uh deals with retired educators. And uh I would imagine that there are one or two individuals on present that will uh be receiving this. [0:45:12, 0:45:20]: And so this says, Whereas the governor of the state of Georgia has proclaimed the day Sunday, November seventh, twenty twenty-one, as retired educators day in Georgia. [0:45:21, 0:45:30]: And whereas there are more than 135,000 retired educators in Georgia, 31,000 plus of whom are members of Georgia Retired Educators Association. [0:45:30, 0:45:40]: Whereas the retired educators of Georgia donate thousands of hours of volunteer service and make invaluable contributions to the welfare of their respective communities across the state. [0:45:41, 0:46:01]: Whereas in an appropriate it is appropriate that a day be designated for citizens to express their appreciation for the contributions that retired educators have made and continue to make for the betterment of human lives and for society. And there and therefore, I, Anthony S. Ford, mayor of the City of Stockbridge Georgia. [0:46:00, 0:46:14]: Georgia, along with Councilmembers Elton Alexander, Yolanda Barber, John Blount, Lakeisha Gantt, Responso Thomas Du Hirpie, declared November 7, 2021 as required Education or Educators Day in the great city of Georgia. [0:46:14, 0:46:28]: Stockbridge, Georgia, in witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia on the eighth day of November and our year of the Lord 2021. And I signed the proclamation along with our clerk Vanessa Holliday. [0:46:28, 0:46:40]: So congratulations. So I'm not sure which one of you ladies or individuals are are going to receive this and have any comments. And of course I'll coordinate with you to have actually have this handed to you. [0:46:40, 0:46:45]: in another location so we can give this uh proclamation to you framed as well. [0:46:46, 0:46:47]: Is that new, Miss Dodgins? [0:46:47, 0:46:48]: Go ahead, right. [0:46:49, 0:46:49]: Um [0:46:50, 0:46:54]: Our president is Wendy Hughes and I believe she's on Wendy. [0:46:55, 0:47:04]: I am and Mr. Mayor and all the council members, I would like to s uh give our sincere appreciation as the Henry County Retired Educators Association president. [0:47:04, 0:47:11]: For your support for our wonderful day and also hope that you find that although we're retired. [0:47:11, 0:47:22]: That we are movers and shakers in your community and in your city and um hope that you will call on us to help you in any way that you see fit. And we thank you once again. [0:47:22, 0:47:42]: Absolutely. And once again, I want you more than welcome, ladies. More than I have to coordinate with you all through the clerk to somehow work out a point to do actually issue this to you in person. Okay. And we'll work that out and get that done uh soon. All right. You're more than welcome to stay as long as you like. Okay. I have the next proclamation. You're welcome. I have the next proclamation. [0:47:42, 0:48:02]: Deals with the National Hospice and Hospice and Palliative Care Month, which is November 2021. And this proclamation indicates whereas for more than 40 years, hospice has helped provide comfort and dignity to millions of people, allowing them to spend their final months at home surrounded by their loved ones. [0:48:02, 0:48:15]: Whereas the hospice model involves the interdisciplinary team-oriented approach to treatment, including expert medical care, quality symptom control, and comprehensive pain management. [0:48:16, 0:48:17]: As a foundation of care. [0:48:17, 0:48:37]: Whereas beyond providing physical treatment, hospice attends to the patient's emotional, spiritual, and family needs and provides family services like respirate care and bereavement counseling. And whereas palliative care delivers expertise and improve to improve quality of life and relief from [0:48:37, 0:48:57]: pain can be provided at any time during the illness. The hospice are some of the best providers of community-based palliative care. And whereas in an increasing fragmented and broken healthcare system, hospice is one of the few sectors that demonstrates how healthcare can and should work as best for its patient. [0:48:58, 0:49:01]: Whereas one point five five million [0:49:01, 0:49:12]: Uh 1.55 million Americans living with life-limiting illness and the families received care from the nation's hospice programs in communities throughout the United States in 2021. [0:49:13, 0:49:22]: Whereas hospice and palliative care organizations are advocates and educators about advanced care planning that help individuals to make decisions about the care they want. [0:49:22, 0:49:30]: Whereas the centers of Medicare and Medicaid services have pledged to put patients first in all of its programs, including hospice. [0:49:30, 0:49:40]: Ensuring a coordinated and patient-led approach to care, protecting patient choice and access to individual individualized services based on a patient's unique care. [0:49:41, 0:49:48]: And service and wishes. Now, therefore, I there now therefore let it be resolved that I, Anthony S. Ford, by virtue of the authority vested in me. [0:49:49, 0:49:54]: Along with Council members Elton, Alexander, Yolanda, Barber, John, Blount, Lakese Gann, and Founcil Thomas do hereby proclaim. [0:49:55, 0:50:10]: November 2021 is National Hospice and Palliative Care Month, and encourage citizens to increase their understanding and awareness of care at the end of life, discuss their end of life wishes with the families and observe this month with their appropriate activities and programs. [0:50:11, 0:50:22]: And witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand on eighth day of November 2021 and has caused this seal to be affixed. And I signed this proclamation along with our clerk Vanessa Holliday. [0:50:23, 0:50:29]: Okay, congratulations. I'm not sure who's online that to that would have any comments and would receive this. [0:50:31, 0:50:35]: Okay. And Mr. Terry Berry, if he's online. [0:50:35, 0:50:36]: Terry Berry? [0:50:36, 0:50:40]: I'm sorry, Terry Smith. I apologize. Terry Smith. [0:50:40, 0:50:49]: Mr. Sm okay, Terry Smith. And if not, then uh Vanessa, we'll coordinate the process to get this to um Terry Smith. [0:50:50, 0:50:52]: Yes. Some time here shortly, okay. [0:50:55, 0:51:01]: The next proclamation deals with the National Technology Training Institute, a 10-year celebration. And I actually [0:51:01, 0:51:06]: issued this proclamation and a serum graduation ceremony actually yesterday afternoon. [0:51:07, 0:51:16]: at Clayton State and also attended a um a reception dinner at the the actual technology training institute um [0:51:17, 0:51:24]: Office uh right here in Stockbridge and uh attended that, actually attended that with my wife yesterday. So it was a great celebration. [0:51:24, 0:51:40]: So let me read this, whereas the National Trology Training Institute provides multiple techology healthcare courses of education that bridge the gap of knowledge between medical doctors, beauty professionals, barbers, trycogs, and wellness experts. [0:51:41, 0:52:01]: And whereas United as one voice in education to impede hair loss academic and the new global hair loss pandemic, medical doctors, wellness experts, dermatologists, technologists, cosmetologists, and professional beauty instructors train all students of the National Trentecology Training Institute to become certified trycology practitioners through. [0:52:01, 0:52:02]: Six hundred hours of training. [0:52:03, 0:52:10]: Whereas another wave of hair loss has happened in the pandemic, the statistics show that hair loss is a critical mass issue. [0:52:10, 0:52:11]: And is a twin dimmick. [0:52:12, 0:52:13]: in a global pandemic. [0:52:13, 0:52:28]: A hair loss academic is uncovered when the wigs, weaves, hair braids, hats, and scarves are removed and whereas millions of women, in particular African American women, are experiencing significant hair loss and scalp disorders more than ever before. [0:52:28, 0:52:47]: Traction alopecia, diffusion hair, temporary baldness, and permanent hair loss because of medical damage. Traction alopecia is one of the leading causes of hair loss. And whereas the National Tracology Training Institute graduated its first class in May 2011, and 10 years later, we congratulate and celebrate the class of 2021. [0:52:47, 0:53:03]: Now, therefore, I, Anthony S. Ford by Mayor, Mayor of City, Stockbridge, Georgia, along with Councilmembers Elton, Alexander, Yelonga, Barber, John Blount, Lakeish Gann, Afonso Thomas, do hereby celebrate the 10th National Techology Training Institute class of 2021 in Great City of Startbridge, Georgia. [0:53:03, 0:53:13]: In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand in the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the seventh day of November of a year of our Lord, 2021. [0:53:14, 0:53:34]: And I did this yesterday, just want to read it in public uh today. Um, and uh Ms. Judge, Connie Judge, I don't know if she's online, but I will tell you, ladies and gentlemen, that uh this training institute, technology training institute, is not only the only one in Georgia, it is the only one with certified educational. [0:53:34, 0:53:49]: 600 hours of training in the nation. In the nation. Okay. And it's located right where? In Stockbridge. Very unique. Matter of fact, out of 10 graduates yesterday that I observed, you had graduates from Las Vegas. [0:53:50, 0:53:51]: Чикаго [0:53:52, 0:53:53]: And and and uh New York. [0:53:54, 0:54:14]: besides our local local area here in the state of Georgia. Whereas that they they they did us online. Sometimes I had to fly into fly into the and into shaka uh into uh the airport and have the training at the sh at the headquarters there, the school on site. Very, very intense, a lot of good training. And uh and I tell you it's really I'm really proud of the fact that [0:54:14, 0:54:34]: they're not only they had a tenure celebration that I participated in, but the fact that they're located right here in Stockbridge. And they're the only one thus far, thus far in the country that actually does this and certified training. Now a lot of the grad some of the graduates that uh came from different locations plan to start their own school, training institute in other parts of the country. But it's it's a thank [0:54:34, 0:54:41]: to uh kinda judd and her vision and all the support folks for that for this so um in this aspect so fantastic [0:54:42, 0:54:43]: And I have one more. [0:54:43, 0:54:44]: Proclamation. [0:54:44, 0:54:49]: And uh this deals with uh small business Saturday. Okay. [0:54:49, 0:54:57]: And uh declaring November 27, 2021, Small Business Saturday and Stockbridge make a big impact, stop small. [0:54:57, 0:55:17]: Whereas the City of StarPrades recognize the value and importance of small businesses to local, regional, and national economy. And whereas, according to the United States Small Business Administration, there are currently 31.7 million small businesses in the United States, representing 99.9% of all businesses with employees in the United States. And where small businesses are responsible. [0:55:17, 0:55:22]: responsible for sixty-four percent of the net new jobs created over the past two decades. [0:55:22, 0:55:30]: Where small businesses employ more than half of the city's private sector workforce and are critical to the growth of our local economy. [0:55:30, 0:55:33]: As it continues to drive significant job creation and innovation. [0:55:33, 0:55:42]: And whereas the city of Stockbridge supports our local local businesses that create jobs, boost our local economy, and preserve our communities. [0:55:43, 0:55:54]: Whereas the city of Stockbridge celebrates our local small businesses and the contributions they make to our local economy and community. Now, therefore, I, Anthony S. Ford, by virtual authority vested in me as the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:55:55, 0:56:15]: And on behalf of City Council members Elton Alexander Landa Barber, John Blount, Lakeisha Gantt, and Alfonso Thomas, to hereby proclaim November 27, 2021, a Small Business Saturday. And Stockbridge encouraged local citizens to participate in Small Business Saturday by supporting local stores, businesses, restaurants, and other independent merchants throughout the Stockbridge community. Thanks to the [0:56:15, 0:56:22]: Programs such as the city's Main Street program, 70% of the U.S. consumers are aware of Small Business Saturday. So please shop small. [0:56:22, 0:56:28]: In witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand and onto the great seal of the city of Sabred, Georgia. [0:56:28, 0:56:34]: on the eighth day of November of year two thousand and twenty two. Excuse me, two thousand twenty one. [0:56:34, 0:56:38]: And uh signed a proclamation along with uh Clerk Vanessa Holiday. [0:56:38, 0:56:46]: And Main Street is online. You all have some comments I'd like I would imagine you would want to have, and I'll obviously I'll just be able to issue this to you tomorrow. [0:56:47, 0:56:49]: In person. Go right here, please. [0:56:50, 0:56:58]: Thank you, Mayor Ford, and thank you, members of City Council. Um, our Main Street staff is really happy to be able to. [0:56:58, 0:57:01]: I think this is our sixth year doing small business Saturday. [0:57:02, 0:57:05]: Um, we're very proud. We've grown quite a bit in our city. [0:57:05, 0:57:08]: This year's actually very special. Um [0:57:08, 0:57:13]: Because of the pandemic, we've decided to do some things a little bit differently. [0:57:13, 0:57:15]: To help businesses get more. [0:57:15, 0:57:18]: uh traction for the month of November. So we are [0:57:19, 0:57:35]: Starting this month by having the Stockbridge Small Business Blitz, which means we celebrate Small Business Saturday all month, as well as on November 27th, which is the official Small Business Saturday, the Saturday after Thanksgiving. [0:57:35, 0:57:37]: And we have a couple of our um [0:57:37, 0:57:46]: Main Street board members on with us. We have Anika Potts and we have Miss Linda Jones. And I'd just like to give each of them a chance to say a couple of words. [0:57:47, 0:57:49]: Absolutely. Ms. Potts, please. [0:57:50, 0:58:10]: Yes, thank you for the opportunity to speak and for the proclamation. Um, Main Street um has been working diligently for some time to ensure that Small Business Saturday uh continues. And we are so excited to um be able to have the entire month this year. So thank you for the um accolade. [0:58:10, 0:58:15]: and um have a fantastic rest of the day and shop small. [0:58:16, 0:58:20]: Absolutely. Uh Linda, you online. Do you want anything to say, ma'am? [0:58:24, 0:58:25]: Okay. [0:58:26, 0:58:38]: Okay, maybe maybe we lost Ms. Linda Jones. Okay, Linda Jones. All right, no problem. On that note then, uh thank you. Obviously you can stay as long as you like and uh appreciate it and I'll be able to hand it to you tomorrow when I see you, okay? [0:58:38, 0:58:55]: Thanks everyone. Okay, appreciate it. Thank you. Okay, great deal. We'll move on to presentations. Presentations, police services, financial presentation. Mr. Wall, of course, Chief Tremor. And Mr. Wall is online to assist with this process. So Chief, I'll hand it off to you, sir. Go right in, please. [0:59:01, 0:59:05]: Well I'm I I guess I was a little confused because I was uh uh [0:59:05, 0:59:12]: looking to Mr. Wall to take the lead on this as it relates to uh this presentation. Uh okay. [0:59:12, 0:59:14]: Mr Mr. Wall, are you on the line? [0:59:14, 0:59:16]: He he's he's there, the [0:59:16, 0:59:19]: And Mayor, I'm here, by the way. I just got in. [0:59:19, 0:59:20]: Okay. [0:59:21, 0:59:23]: Yes, sir. I'm here cheap. Can you see the mayor? [0:59:23, 0:59:24]: Yeah, see you, sir. [0:59:25, 0:59:44]: So uh I'm driving back from Darty County, so I'm in my truck. So I apologize. I turned the light on so y'all can see me. Um, so Chief Trammell and uh Quentin, uh Washington and Jeremy Berry and I and John Wiggins and the mayor have had numerous calls to talk about this and um [0:59:44, 0:59:45]: Um [0:59:46, 0:59:48]: We had the last one this morning. [0:59:49, 0:59:55]: Where um Chief Trammel has found a new release from the Department of Treasury that's was dated in July. [0:59:56, 0:59:57]: That I wasn't aware of. [0:59:58, 0:59:58]: And um [0:59:59, 1:00:07]: I don't know if we have the ability to share the screen and the Quentin, if you have it the ability, but it was a new release in July and on page twenty one and twenty two. [1:00:08, 1:00:10]: It gives the option. [1:00:10, 1:00:12]: guidance from the Department of Treasury. [1:00:12, 1:00:18]: that if crime has increased in a particular area and it's due to COVID, the pandemic. [1:00:19, 1:00:21]: You are then allowed to spin ARP. [1:00:21, 1:00:22]: Money. [1:00:23, 1:00:29]: on capital projects and even the hiring of new police officers to rectify the increase in crime. [1:00:30, 1:00:31]: So this morning the chief [1:00:32, 1:00:35]: sent to Quentin and uh Jeremy and myself. [1:00:36, 1:00:40]: Statistics from the Henry County Police Department showing what uh three categories of crime [1:00:41, 1:00:41]: Were [1:00:42, 1:00:43]: In twenty nineteen. [1:00:43, 1:00:44]: Uh and [1:00:44, 1:00:46]: twenty twenty and twenty twenty one. [1:00:47, 1:00:51]: And in fact, there has been an increase in crime, um [1:00:51, 1:00:55]: Uh eight percent in one category and twenty two percent in the other category. [1:00:56, 1:01:06]: If I could pause for just just a second. Chief, could you read those statistics? I know you presented them to Berry Council before, but I just wanted you to go over those three items about the increase in crime. [1:01:08, 1:01:12]: Yes, sir. I'd be glad to. And so what we did is um we looked at [1:01:12, 1:01:15]: The pre pandemic crime data for Henry County. [1:01:16, 1:01:22]: And we looked at the post uh data uh after the pandemic, and the thing that we had to show with the ARPA funding. [1:01:22, 1:01:28]: Is that our community was impacted and we had a increase in violent crime. [1:01:28, 1:01:45]: um in order to be eligible to utilize those offense or those uh those funds uh for uh specific offenses. And so uh what we're able to determine is that uh robbery robbery um armed robbery had increased over twenty-two percent [1:01:45, 1:01:49]: Um aggravated assaults had increased about nine percent. [1:01:49, 1:01:53]: And in homicides it increased at about at the rate of about two hundred percent. [1:01:53, 1:02:02]: Uh prior to the pandemic, we had uh over the course of a year, um, as as I'm looking at this data here, no homicides. [1:02:02, 1:02:08]: After the pandemic, the city has experienced 10 homicides. So if we were to extend that data, we'd be looking at about [1:02:08, 1:02:11]: Uh uh honestly, uh a five hundred. [1:02:11, 1:02:18]: uh it's a six hundred percent increase in overall homicides if we were to compare the data the data uh for a longer period of time. [1:02:18, 1:02:30]: And so I certainly think that based on the crime data that we've received, that we can show that there is a nexus between uh the pandemic and the increase in violent crime, which we've seen across the board in all communities. [1:02:30, 1:02:39]: Uh, but I'm trying to pull up here for you two the Treasury highlights and and I don't know if I have the option, I believe I do, to share my screen with you. [1:02:39, 1:02:46]: Uh, so that I can uh just point everyone to the interim guidance from the US Department of Treasury. [1:02:47, 1:03:01]: as it relates to the utilization of ARPA funds for specific public safety purposes. And I do want to point out too that Ms. Barber and I had the opportunity to meet with Miss Becky Taylor with the Georgia Municipal Association. [1:03:02, 1:03:08]: Who confirmed our interpretation of this data as well. And so I'm going to attempt to share my screen here. [1:03:08, 1:03:09]: Um [1:03:12, 1:03:15]: And hopefully everybody can um [1:03:17, 1:03:19]: See this information um [1:03:22, 1:03:29]: Can everybody see what's highlighted in green there? Can you all read that? We see nothing right now, sir. Nothing at all. Okay. So let me let me try this again. [1:03:30, 1:03:32]: IT are you able to give them permission? There we go. [1:03:33, 1:03:34]: Are you able to see that? [1:03:35, 1:03:36]: Now we see it. Yes, sir. Now we do. Okay. [1:03:37, 1:03:46]: So I want to point out here this section, and this is that we confirmed that there is no more updated guidance from the Department of Treasury beyond July nineteenth. This is the interim guidance. [1:03:46, 1:03:49]: This is the updated information and what it says here. [1:03:49, 1:04:04]: is that we can use the ARPA funds in communities where an increase in violence or increased difficulty in assessing or providing services to respond to or mitigate the effects of violence as a result of the pandemic. We may use these funds to address that harm and the spending may include [1:04:04, 1:04:13]: One of four broad categories. That's the hiring of law enforcement officials, community violence intervention programs, additional enforcement efforts to reduce gun violence. [1:04:14, 1:04:21]: And investing in technology and equipment to allow law enforcement to more effectively respond to the rise in gun violence resulting from the pandemic. [1:04:21, 1:04:23]: And so based on um [1:04:24, 1:04:26]: Everything that we've discerned thus far. [1:04:27, 1:04:31]: Uh believe that we all and when I say we all, Mr. Wall, Mr. Wiggins, and our council. [1:04:32, 1:04:41]: Um to include Ms. Barber and our conversation with Ms. Taylor are all on the same page and have interpreted this, that uh we are able to utilize ARPA funding. [1:04:41, 1:04:47]: Um uh but so long as we're able to show that nexus, that that crime uh nexus. [1:04:47, 1:04:49]: And the increase in violent crime in our community. [1:04:50, 1:04:56]: Uh the thing too that we learned from Miss Becky Taylor with Georgia Municipal Association is under the interim rule. [1:04:56, 1:05:02]: That if we were to use these funds, so long as we are not using them outside of the scope of their intended purpose. [1:05:02, 1:05:09]: That should the final ruling come back and indicate that we are not able to um [1:05:10, 1:05:28]: that we are not able to uh utilize these funds for this purpose, they change the rules or something along those lines, then we are not responsible for paying back the government for those uh expenses. And uh Councilwoman Barber, if you if I missed anything regarding our conversation, okay. [1:05:28, 1:05:31]: And so that's that's where we are with that. And um [1:05:32, 1:05:35]: And if I missed anything, please please feel free to jump in there. [1:05:35, 1:05:37]: You didn't so I'd also say [1:05:37, 1:05:40]: So this July release from the Department of Treasury. [1:05:42, 1:05:49]: If you can show that you had increase in crime due to the pandemic, you're now allowed to spend some of the ARP money. [1:05:49, 1:05:55]: on these categories, which police equipment, vehicles, even the hiring of police officers work. [1:05:55, 1:05:57]: I w I I wanted [1:05:57, 1:05:58]: Quentin [1:05:58, 1:05:59]: Jeremy. [1:05:59, 1:06:02]: Council to look at that, can I ask them to speak? [1:06:02, 1:06:04]: to their reading of it and [1:06:04, 1:06:05]: The [1:06:05, 1:06:09]: Back and forth email traffic with the lady at Georgia Municipal Association. [1:06:09, 1:06:12]: Quentin or Jeremy, can you speak to what your opinion is? [1:06:17, 1:06:19]: Or Quinn, do you want to jump in or do you want me to do it? [1:06:22, 1:06:29]: Yeah, we uh the the bottom line is we agree with what G Trammer and Ed have said and Quentin and I have prepared a memo. [1:06:29, 1:06:31]: uh that we can circulate, but looking at [1:06:32, 1:06:37]: And Quentin spoke to Becky Taylor from the Georgia um municipal association today. [1:06:37, 1:06:42]: But looking at the interim final rule that uh interprets the DOT. [1:06:42, 1:06:49]: Um regulations, then we we do believe this can be done. And in fact, we looked at other cities. [1:06:49, 1:06:55]: Uh, that have used money for you know police salary for police equipment. [1:06:55, 1:07:00]: uh and other sort of police re related um material so it's our belief [1:07:01, 1:07:03]: that this can be done. That the the [1:07:03, 1:07:05]: ARPA funds can be used. [1:07:05, 1:07:08]: Uh you know, like like is suggested here. [1:07:09, 1:07:11]: Then can I be specific, Chief? [1:07:12, 1:07:23]: The request is six million dollars worth of capital equipment to get the police force up and going, but the specific request is to use three million from the ARP's five and a half million we [1:07:24, 1:07:30]: We got eleven million that'll come in two checks. We have got five and a half million so far that's in the bank. [1:07:31, 1:07:34]: The other five and a half million to come about June of next year. [1:07:34, 1:07:38]: Isn't the request to spend about three million of that five and a half chief? [1:07:40, 1:07:48]: Yes, that's correct. If you recall from the budget presentation on October 26, the startup costs for the police departments just a little over six million dollars. [1:07:49, 1:08:04]: Um we bonded three million dollars for that. So the utilization of ARPA funds for the purchase of equipment would certainly offset those expenses. And I will say, and Mr. Wiggins, you could speak to this also, that Mr. Aaron has applied for some supplemental grant funding, which could get us [1:08:05, 1:08:07]: close to fourteen million dollars in ARPA funding. [1:08:08, 1:08:18]: And if we were to use three million for the police department, uh that still leaves us roughly eleven million dollars in funds to utilize for the city. So um just just wanted to be clear on that. [1:08:19, 1:08:25]: And the three million would would predominantly be for the acquisition of the police vehicles and associated equipment because that's [1:08:25, 1:08:29]: the largest capital expense that we will have as it relates to implementation of the departments. [1:08:32, 1:08:34]: Mr. Wiggins, do you have anything you need to add, sir? [1:08:35, 1:08:43]: I want to add to just confirm what what Chief said, he's uh absolutely correct. If we um if uh [1:08:43, 1:08:47]: Uh Dish is is successful and um [1:08:47, 1:08:57]: uh getting the um the extra two million then we will have about at least uh ten, eleven million more for sewer and stormwater. [1:08:57, 1:09:00]: type projects and then the three million [1:09:00, 1:09:08]: would be just for capital, any kind of uh uh uh huge expenses that the uh police department would need. And um [1:09:09, 1:09:15]: We will we will be um and then with the opera funds at uh using three million uh uh that [1:09:15, 1:09:18]: Along with the bond, I I think we will be um [1:09:19, 1:09:21]: We'll be right there. We'll be okay. [1:09:22, 1:09:26]: And then the the last thing when council, if y'all decide to approve this. [1:09:28, 1:09:32]: You're obligating yourself to go on with now the police department. [1:09:32, 1:09:35]: Do you all know what the operating budget would be? [1:09:35, 1:09:37]: You're prepared to fund it next year. [1:09:40, 1:09:41]: I thank you, sir. Appreciate it. [1:09:41, 1:09:45]: Councilman uh Councilwoman Barber, go ahead. You had your hand raised. [1:09:47, 1:09:52]: I wanted um Mr. Walls to share all of the financials. [1:09:52, 1:09:54]: Um regarding the police department. [1:09:55, 1:10:01]: I know in his original projections, he didn't account for any offer funding. [1:10:01, 1:10:03]: Or any grants. [1:10:03, 1:10:04]: Um [1:10:04, 1:10:06]: So I wanted him to just kind of spell out. [1:10:07, 1:10:18]: all of the financials, if you could. Yes. Yes, ma'am. Thank you. So when uh I had run uh two uh options, an aggressive approach and a conservative approach. [1:10:19, 1:10:21]: I don't know, back during maybe May or June. [1:10:22, 1:10:26]: I budgeted two point six milyen dollars for the police force. [1:10:27, 1:10:31]: for half of a year and I think it was five point six million dollars for a whole year. [1:10:32, 1:10:41]: I had some discussions with the chief. I was out in Wyoming for two weeks, um, toward the end of October. I wasn't able to meet your make your October twenty sixth meeting. [1:10:41, 1:10:42]: Um [1:10:42, 1:10:47]: I think the operating budget now is about six million in change, isn't that right, Chief? [1:10:50, 1:10:52]: Well you mute a chief. [1:10:53, 1:11:00]: No, sir. It's around five point seven. And and Mr. Wall, I have your uh your your GF projection uh [1:11:00, 1:11:04]: If if you'd like me to share that screen, I certainly can uh please sir, I I would [1:11:05, 1:11:06]: Please do. Okay. [1:11:06, 1:11:07]: Um [1:11:08, 1:11:11]: So let me see if I can do this again. [1:11:16, 1:11:17]: Can you all see this? [1:11:17, 1:11:25]: Yes, sir, we see it. Go ahead, please. Okay. So Mr. Wall, I did want to point out, however, that um what we did that I don't believe was incorporated um [1:11:26, 1:11:34]: In uh in in your projections, we we we plugged in the property tax data for the rollback uh for the police department here. [1:11:34, 1:11:40]: And then updated these figures on line 61 right here, if you can see that. [1:11:40, 1:11:45]: This would be the cost for the police department for um for next year for half a year. [1:11:46, 1:11:50]: And this would be the projected cost based on inflation for twenty twenty three. [1:11:51, 1:12:02]: And this would be for inflation um moving forward into twenty twenty four. And these are these are data fields that you had already uh put formulas in, Mr. Wall. So I didn't manipulate this data. All I took was the [1:12:02, 1:12:06]: uh the budget information that we hadn't plugged it in here and so I just wanted you to [1:12:06, 1:12:09]: understand it th this current um [1:12:09, 1:12:11]: XL file here reflects [1:12:12, 1:12:12]: Uh those [1:12:13, 1:12:15]: Police department numbers that have been put in. [1:12:15, 1:12:19]: Um and and your formula data has calculated the rest of it. [1:12:20, 1:12:21]: Thank you, sir. And then if you would [1:12:25, 1:12:26]: Mr. Wall, you still there? [1:12:29, 1:12:30]: It's a wall. [1:12:33, 1:12:36]: Thank you so much. Can you hear me, boss? Now now we hear you. So go ahead, please. [1:12:36, 1:12:37]: I hit a wrong button. [1:12:38, 1:12:39]: Um [1:12:39, 1:12:41]: So up at the top, the revenues. [1:12:42, 1:12:44]: If you all could look at the [1:12:44, 1:12:45]: Henry County Millage rate. [1:12:46, 1:12:46]: Um [1:12:48, 1:12:51]: Of at the top that one point eight two four mils. [1:12:51, 1:12:54]: So starting July of next year. [1:12:54, 1:12:56]: That amount of money. [1:12:56, 1:13:00]: uh would be levied by you and not by Henry County anymore. [1:13:00, 1:13:01]: And this budget. [1:13:01, 1:13:05]: Anticipates an extra millage levy by you of two point five mills. [1:13:06, 1:13:07]: July of next year. [1:13:08, 1:13:09]: For citizens to pay it. [1:13:09, 1:13:12]: With their regular property taxes in December. [1:13:13, 1:13:14]: It's also assumed [1:13:14, 1:13:15]: A um [1:13:16, 1:13:19]: uh court fines because we'll be writing our own tickets. [1:13:20, 1:13:25]: Of approximately a million twenty seven thousand five eighty nine less license and permits. [1:13:26, 1:13:30]: Roll down the screen, Chief, if you would to get defines forfeitures. There you go. [1:13:31, 1:13:32]: And um [1:13:33, 1:13:40]: I think it's right here, Mr. Wallace. This is court revenues on line thirty. There you go. Great. So it's a million one hundred thousand dollars. [1:13:41, 1:13:43]: And uh that was consistent with what we had. [1:13:44, 1:13:44]: Uh [1:13:45, 1:13:46]: Our court system had produced. [1:13:47, 1:13:53]: I can't remember what year we had a police force, but it was several years back, but that was the amount of money that it produced then. [1:13:55, 1:13:56]: All right. [1:13:57, 1:14:00]: So uh Councilwoman Barber, it's uh the assumptions are [1:14:01, 1:14:06]: that um it'll be the county millage rate plus two point five mills. [1:14:06, 1:14:07]: Um [1:14:07, 1:14:11]: That we would levy next year to fund the operations the police force. [1:14:11, 1:14:15]: We would start the capital with the three billion from the ARP money. [1:14:15, 1:14:20]: three million that we borrowed in the uh series C bonds that we closed this past March. [1:14:27, 1:14:33]: Okay. Council, any questions in reference in reference to this document that you see before you? [1:14:34, 1:14:40]: And Miss Barber Gloria. Yes, can you can you give us the mayor? I'm sorry. Can you give the total [1:14:40, 1:14:46]: Amount what's expected. If five point seven, we're rounding up to about six million operating budget costs. [1:14:47, 1:14:55]: Because that's the number I got from the previous presentation. And when do we get to 2.5 mils? Because uh [1:14:55, 1:15:00]: Other email that was sent back in June said 3.5 mils. [1:15:00, 1:15:07]: So and the tax um commissioner, tax commissioner, Mr. Um Michael Harris said three point. [1:15:07, 1:15:12]: Three mils. I'm sorry, you said three point three mils, not three point three, but three mils. [1:15:13, 1:15:16]: So what number is it actually going to be? [1:15:16, 1:15:19]: And then what is gonna be our annual [1:15:20, 1:15:22]: Operating budget. [1:15:22, 1:15:24]: Including [1:15:25, 1:15:28]: the increase because it looks like in twenty [1:15:29, 1:15:30]: We went we go from sixteen [1:15:31, 1:15:33]: Point four mil. [1:15:34, 1:15:36]: In total revenues, well, I'm sorry. [1:15:37, 1:15:38]: Oh, I look at revenues. [1:15:39, 1:15:43]: I wanna look at cost. It looks like it doubles here back in two twenty four. [1:15:44, 1:15:48]: So we go we're right now we're at like what eighteen [1:15:49, 1:15:52]: eight point eight and we're gonna and by two twenty twenty four. [1:15:53, 1:15:55]: We'll be at about eighteen point nine. [1:15:55, 1:15:58]: And I saw the budget tonight. We're up at seventeen. [1:15:59, 1:16:02]: Our budget has increased from twelve to seventeen. [1:16:02, 1:16:03]: For twenty twenty two. [1:16:04, 1:16:05]: From twenty twenty one. [1:16:05, 1:16:06]: So [1:16:06, 1:16:07]: Based off of what [1:16:08, 1:16:11]: is gonna be proposed tonight. So give me some actual [1:16:11, 1:16:13]: Numbers. Is it a three point five mil? [1:16:14, 1:16:17]: Is it a three mil or is it a two point five mil? [1:16:18, 1:16:28]: And then this is Councilwoman Gantt talking, isn't it? Yes. That is correct. Yes, ma'am. Okay, you got it. So look at the revenues up at the top, and we'll start with the sales tax. [1:16:28, 1:16:34]: You go across the page sales tax, the 2020 actual was five million seven hundred four. [1:16:34, 1:16:38]: The twenty one projected was five million seven oh four. [1:16:38, 1:16:43]: We've increased twenty twenty two to five million eight hundred and eighteen thousand'cause your sales tax have been increasing. [1:16:44, 1:16:46]: Notice twenty twenty three is five point nine million. [1:16:48, 1:16:49]: Notice that the property taxes [1:16:50, 1:16:51]: You'll see right there, um [1:16:52, 1:16:53]: Other taxes. [1:16:53, 1:16:53]: Um [1:16:54, 1:16:54]: You see [1:16:55, 1:16:59]: That would be the insurance premium, rollback tax, the uh other taxes that we have. [1:16:59, 1:17:00]: And [1:17:00, 1:17:01]: And then the court finds. [1:17:02, 1:17:08]: And so the difference in the three mils that was or three point three mils that was projected versus this two and a half. [1:17:09, 1:17:09]: Is [1:17:10, 1:17:13]: Is i an increased assumption on this spreadsheet. [1:17:14, 1:17:15]: Court fines. [1:17:15, 1:17:17]: Sales tax increases. [1:17:17, 1:17:18]: And um [1:17:19, 1:17:20]: Um [1:17:20, 1:17:25]: If we don't if we have a recession and sales taxes decline. [1:17:25, 1:17:33]: uh and the court fines aren't that high, then you would have a higher tax or you'd use some of your fund balance until you could correct the situation. [1:17:33, 1:17:37]: But the difference in the three point three mils versus two and a half mils. [1:17:38, 1:17:40]: Was the assumption in sales tax collections? [1:17:40, 1:17:41]: Court fines. [1:17:42, 1:17:45]: And then you're correct that your budget [1:17:45, 1:17:45]: Si [1:17:46, 1:17:47]: He's gone from [1:17:48, 1:17:50]: Two thousand and twenty from twelve million [1:17:51, 1:17:53]: Fourteen million to sixteen million. [1:17:54, 1:17:54]: Twenty one million. [1:17:57, 1:17:58]: Mm-hmm. In two years. [1:17:59, 1:18:00]: That is [1:18:00, 1:18:02]: That is an accurate figure. [1:18:04, 1:18:07]: Well, the budget that they're proposing tonight is seventeen mil. [1:18:08, 1:18:09]: And I'm sure we're gonna tweak that, but [1:18:10, 1:18:14]: Um my concern is looking at the numbers here. [1:18:14, 1:18:21]: Um, the money for the opera funds is for startup costs. Is that not correct, Chief Tramer? [1:18:22, 1:18:42]: Ma'am, we have latitude in terms of how we use it. Um, I I just want to I wanna be considerate of the other projects that the city has as it relates to water and stormwater improvements. And so um we may be able to utilize more of those funds, um, but we are right now just looking for utilization of about three million of that to offset the uh startup. [1:18:42, 1:18:43]: Capital cost. [1:18:44, 1:18:50]: Now we can use those funds for salaries. We can use those funds to offset some things for uh some time. [1:18:50, 1:18:56]: But again, that's gonna be based on the consensus of the council and how they wish to utilize those funds. [1:18:56, 1:19:00]: uh for the uh intended purposes that they're uh allowed to be utilized for. [1:19:01, 1:19:12]: And Mr. Wall, thank you, Mr. Chief Chamber. And Mr. Wall, the interest rate on this twenty five million dollar bond that three million dollars is coming out of, what's the what's the interest on that three million? [1:19:15, 1:19:19]: Oh man, I forgot. It's like two point eight five percent, I think. [1:19:20, 1:19:20]: Okay. [1:19:21, 1:19:24]: All righty. So it looks like we're doubling. [1:19:25, 1:19:31]: Um and even if that the money for ARPA, it's c clearly states at the beginning of that. [1:19:31, 1:19:50]: When any if anyone can Google it or do whatever they want to do, but it clearly states the first second paragraphs that ARPA funds aren't used for startups. Now we can use it for that. It just highly recommends that you don't do that because the years after that, we have to handle our operating costs. [1:19:50, 1:19:57]: So to me, these funds would be for our startup, which based off of the numbers that I got previously. [1:19:58, 1:20:03]: Um, but I got two different numbers. One had forty-three officers, and I believe the last town hall. [1:20:04, 1:20:05]: was around fifty. [1:20:06, 1:20:10]: Um, based off of those numbers that I received recently. [1:20:11, 1:20:13]: It looks like [1:20:13, 1:20:17]: Those startup costs would be around twelve [1:20:17, 1:20:19]: Twelve mil, is that not? [1:20:19, 1:20:20]: Startup plus [1:20:21, 1:20:25]: um operating, would that be around 12 mils? Is that correct? [1:20:27, 1:20:44]: No, we we would be looking at about six million dollars in startup costs. Uh councilwoman. Plus the operating for the year. Well the operating the operating would ru roughly we're calculating seven months for twenty twenty two because we won't be fully operational until July one. So that's where this, if you can see here, the three point three million dollars. [1:20:45, 1:20:48]: comes into play for fiscal year twenty twenty two. [1:20:48, 1:20:51]: Uh operator. What would that total cost would be? [1:20:51, 1:20:54]: That would be the total cost for twenty twenty two. [1:20:55, 1:20:55]: Would be what? [1:20:56, 1:20:58]: Three point three two five million dollars. [1:20:59, 1:20:59]: Okay. [1:21:00, 1:21:12]: And then the year after that, what what do you project the cost of it? That we're anticipating now with three percent inflation. [1:21:12, 1:21:15]: That's the inflation cost for that. And so [1:21:15, 1:21:27]: Uh that's the reason that the budget uh would increase by that number. And you can see, I think, and I just wanted to clarify here so that everybody's clear that these are revenue numbers up here, 16,000, 20,000, and 21. [1:21:27, 1:21:36]: that the actual expenditures are down here fourteen thousand eighteen and eighteen and twenty four, which still leaves a profit for the city. We're not in the black. [1:21:37, 1:21:40]: Of over two million dollars, even with these increases. [1:21:40, 1:21:42]: Am I interpreting that correctly, Mr. Wall? [1:21:44, 1:21:45]: Say it to me again, Chief. [1:21:46, 1:21:53]: Well, if we look here at the top, we're looking at revenues. So the revenue for the city in in this year is twenty twenty two, sixteen million. [1:21:53, 1:22:07]: In 2023, it's 20 million. In 2024, it's 21 million in projected revenue. And if we minus our expenses, which is 14, 18, and 18, we're still ending up with a profit, not a loss. [1:22:07, 1:22:08]: Of over two million dollars. [1:22:09, 1:22:15]: But we have to look down below that you have to spend a million six for the debt service on the [1:22:15, 1:22:18]: debt for City Hall. Okay, which would still leave us [1:22:19, 1:22:21]: In the in the in the good for about [1:22:21, 1:22:23]: six hundred thousand dollars. [1:22:23, 1:22:26]: Can you talk about our fund balance, the whole balance? [1:22:28, 1:22:32]: So the fund the the fund balance is the last numbers below that. [1:22:32, 1:22:34]: Couple of them again. So the fund balance [1:22:36, 1:22:37]: Yeah, we'll be is [1:22:37, 1:22:41]: So in two thousand and twenty one we expect the fund balance to be um [1:22:42, 1:22:43]: thirteen million nine oh one. [1:22:45, 1:22:46]: Okay. [1:22:46, 1:22:52]: So you I maybe it's nineteen million two forty and nineteen, thirteen million nine oh one and twenty. [1:22:52, 1:22:56]: Fifteen million six fifty five and twenty one we were projecting. [1:22:56, 1:22:57]: Um [1:22:57, 1:23:03]: And then you can see it's going up by about six hundred grand a year based on these numbers. But remember [1:23:03, 1:23:07]: So it's a twenty million dollar budget, ten percent is two million. [1:23:07, 1:23:13]: Five percent is one million, so it's about a what a three and a half or four percent swing. So [1:23:14, 1:23:19]: These you know, an Excel spreadsheet ain't a Bible verse, it's just a projection. And so [1:23:20, 1:23:20]: Um [1:23:20, 1:23:27]: We have to watch it, you know, month to month when Wiggins does the numbers to make sure it's it's working out the way these numbers show. This [1:23:28, 1:23:30]: Is it in a Bible verse? Um [1:23:30, 1:23:31]: I got it. [1:23:32, 1:23:34]: Okay. Well, I'm concerned about the inflation. [1:23:35, 1:23:40]: and consideration. But I from my understand when looking at the budget, we're practically doubling. [1:23:41, 1:23:42]: Within two years. [1:23:43, 1:23:46]: And so when do we plan on starting to tax the citizens? [1:23:47, 1:23:49]: Uh next next year, twenty two. [1:23:50, 1:23:51]: Cause I was told [1:23:52, 1:23:55]: Mayor Pro Tem, didn't you say we wouldn't tax the system into twenty twenty three? [1:23:57, 1:23:59]: So that didn't you say that at the last meeting? [1:24:00, 1:24:06]: So this projection, Councilwoman Gantt, has you implementing the Kenry County Millage rate next year? [1:24:07, 1:24:10]: Then you would inc you would increase the two and a half mils [1:24:10, 1:24:11]: Me three. [1:24:11, 1:24:14]: 'Cause you're only gonna have a half a year of operations. [1:24:14, 1:24:15]: twenty two. [1:24:16, 1:24:17]: May I respond to that? [1:24:18, 1:24:19]: Yeah, go ahead, sir. [1:24:19, 1:24:24]: I think the answer was correct to understand that the Henry County rate [1:24:24, 1:24:28]: will go down and then that will be offset equally by [1:24:28, 1:24:32]: uh the stock bridge rate. So basically the remain the the rate [1:24:32, 1:24:36]: remain static so there would not be a net increase. [1:24:37, 1:24:38]: In twenty two, yes, sir. [1:24:38, 1:24:39]: Correct. [1:24:40, 1:24:48]: Yes. But in twenty twenty three we'll have an increase. Is that what y'all was saying? No. Let me say this too. Now that could happen. [1:24:48, 1:24:59]: But in my eyes, we still have more ARPA funds at that point. We if we decide to insert some additional funds from ARPA or from budget surpluses. [1:24:59, 1:25:06]: We could eliminate the tax in 2023 also. So it's up to this council when that happens. Not that's what the projections say. [1:25:09, 1:25:09]: Okay. [1:25:12, 1:25:13]: Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [1:25:15, 1:25:20]: Mayor Pro Tem is correct. In fact, uh Chief Tramer and I, when we spoke with [1:25:20, 1:25:22]: uh the policy director. [1:25:22, 1:25:23]: Four DNA. [1:25:24, 1:25:29]: She gave us the time well, the deadlines. Uh December thirty first, twenty [1:25:30, 1:25:30]: Twenty four. [1:25:31, 1:25:35]: Projects can be allocated by using ARPA funding. [1:25:36, 1:25:38]: Those projects in [1:25:38, 1:25:40]: The expenses have to be [1:25:41, 1:25:41]: Hey. [1:25:42, 1:25:42]: Or [1:25:42, 1:25:47]: expended by twenty twenty six, the end of twenty twenty six. [1:25:47, 1:25:50]: Is that correct, Chief Trainer? Am I explaining it right? [1:25:51, 1:26:00]: Yes, that's correct. It the the projects have to be allocated for 2024, but we have until the end of twenty six to actually utilize those funds, as I understand, based on our conversation. [1:26:00, 1:26:07]: Uh that that would be that would be an accurate statement, yes. And I and I did want to point out too one of the things that we did mention, uh Mr. Wall regarding [1:26:07, 1:26:11]: uh the ARPA funds is as it relates to utilization, the city [1:26:11, 1:26:18]: uh did not have a deficit caused by the pandemic. So we wouldn't be eligible to utilize or reimburse ourselves for those funds because of that reason. [1:26:19, 1:26:24]: And the city didn't also pay premium pays, so we wouldn't be eligible to use it for those reasons. So really [1:26:24, 1:26:32]: As it relates to public safety and public works, those those seem to be the only two uses that we can utilize those funds. Am I correct on that, Mr. Wall? [1:26:32, 1:26:33]: Yes, sir. [1:26:37, 1:26:37]: Right. [1:26:38, 1:26:40]: Any other questions from the council? [1:26:41, 1:26:47]: Mr Mr. Thomas, go ahead please, sir. I I I just wanted to make a comment of to to concur. [1:26:47, 1:27:01]: Um, this is also my understanding of how funds could be utilized uh going into 2024 up to 2026. But one one of the issues that I want to sort of just raise is that. [1:27:02, 1:27:05]: Looking at revenues, even during the pandemic. [1:27:05, 1:27:08]: Um it was it was definitely increased as well. [1:27:09, 1:27:12]: But the but the point I really want to make about is is about the budget. [1:27:13, 1:27:18]: Um and and the utilization of these funds, the council. [1:27:18, 1:27:38]: Has the leeway to how we utilize these funds. We also have the authority and the control uh on the city's budget, and all of us know that there's always um room for reduction in the city budget. We control that so. [1:27:38, 1:27:52]: The the the budget is not a automatic increase, uh no way, no, no shape, no form. We control that. But the bottom line for me though is, and I as I have said it from the beginning. [1:27:53, 1:28:02]: It is our obligation and our responsibility to provide public safety uh to our citizens, to our businesses. It is up to us. [1:28:03, 1:28:04]: Two [1:28:04, 1:28:24]: ensure that we are doing our due diligence and making sure that we go forward with this. And there are trials and error and there are uh you know challenges as well. But is it up to us to make sure that we do not get caught up in in the crosshairs and and moving this city forward. And so [1:28:24, 1:28:40]: So I'm confident that we will, uh with Mr. Wall, with the chief and all of our advisors and the staff, that we will be on top of going forward every every month. And so I'm not concerned about, I'm not, I'm not fearful. [1:28:40, 1:28:52]: of the future because I know we're going to do our due diligence and we don't really have a choice. We have to provide public safety for our citizens. And as we have seen here recently, [1:28:53, 1:29:00]: all over the metro, even within Henry County, we see the crime rate. So this is a must. [1:29:00, 1:29:04]: But it is up to us to be able to navigate and manage. [1:29:05, 1:29:07]: Let me emphasize the word manage. [1:29:07, 1:29:19]: It is up to us to be able to manage how we go forward. And I'm I'm I'm I'm excited about going forward. And I think we're going to do. I'm just listening to the presentation tonight. [1:29:19, 1:29:33]: Um Mr. Walls, you've done your homework and you've always been uh that person that came forward and gave us facts. And you know we heard that. Chief Tram, I'm gonna commend you for uh your due diligence and your homework. [1:29:33, 1:29:37]: Um it's council, you know, we we are doing the same, but [1:29:38, 1:29:41]: It it the burden is on us to make sure that we manage. [1:29:42, 1:29:45]: how we go forward. For me, the mission is clear. [1:29:45, 1:29:47]: The path is clear. [1:29:47, 1:29:55]: But we have to sort of stay on top of this and manage going forward. So just thank you all for the presentation and your due diligence. [1:29:56, 1:29:58]: Any other council comments before we move on? [1:30:00, 1:30:02]: You know, council comments. [1:30:03, 1:30:13]: Okay. Now this was a presentation. I don't recall this being any type of a vote that is necessary for this presentation. Is that right? Or am I off base here? [1:30:15, 1:30:20]: I believe this is just a presentation to inform the council that Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [1:30:21, 1:30:27]: Um I had questions for Mr. Wall and for Mr. Wiggins. Okay. [1:30:27, 1:30:32]: Want to make sure that we're balancing the use of those ARPA fundings. [1:30:33, 1:30:39]: I like to see how much we've already spent in public works and ARPA funding. [1:30:39, 1:30:43]: Um so that we make sure that we're balancing this. And for Mr. [1:30:43, 1:30:44]: Wow. [1:30:45, 1:30:45]: Um [1:30:46, 1:30:47]: I'm trying to see. [1:30:48, 1:30:52]: He doesn't he didn't account for any ARPA funding or any. [1:30:53, 1:30:54]: Grant. [1:30:54, 1:30:55]: Funding. [1:30:58, 1:30:59]: At all. [1:30:59, 1:31:01]: No ma'am. Uh we didn't [1:31:02, 1:31:09]: Okay. I don't know what the date I don't know what the date of this is, but I don't think we knew what what we were getting at the time I did this pre this this Excel spreadsheet. [1:31:09, 1:31:12]: Okay, but you did account for the expenses. [1:31:13, 1:31:14]: So what if [1:31:14, 1:31:16]: Well so the in the ARP money [1:31:17, 1:31:20]: We're currently contemplating it spending it only on capital. [1:31:21, 1:31:25]: This Excel spreadsheet is only for operations. It doesn't include capital. [1:31:27, 1:31:29]: Okay. Does that does that make sense? [1:31:29, 1:31:30]: Yes, thank you. [1:31:31, 1:31:31]: Yes, ma'am. [1:31:32, 1:31:36]: Is Mr. Wigan still on the line? Yes, he is. [1:31:36, 1:31:38]: Are you able to tell me how much? [1:31:38, 1:31:41]: Funding we've already spent with public works. [1:31:42, 1:31:44]: Isso, pode passar. [1:31:45, 1:31:48]: I can get you an accurate number. Um [1:31:48, 1:31:56]: Okay. Borrow, but uh if if I can remember, I I don't think we've spent uh no more than probably about seventy thousand. [1:31:57, 1:31:57]: So far. [1:31:58, 1:31:58]: Mm-hmm. [1:31:59, 1:32:02]: But I'll I'll I'll I'll confirm that by tomorrow. [1:32:03, 1:32:04]: All right. Appreciate it. [1:32:04, 1:32:05]: Yeah. [1:32:05, 1:32:10]: Now references presentations. My understanding is a presentation. It wasn't any specific vote that we needed to make. Is that correct? [1:32:13, 1:32:19]: All right, if that's the c if that is the case, then uh we will move on to the next subject. Thank you, gentlemen, for your presentation. Really appreciate that. [1:32:20, 1:32:23]: We're gonna go to old business and old business deals with a public hearing. [1:32:24, 1:32:34]: And uh the first public hearing deals with rezoning case RZ two zero two one-one. Council consideration to approve proposed Davison Parkway Commerce Center. [1:32:35, 1:32:41]: Rezoning request by East Group Properties LP, the applicant to rezone certain property from C three heavy commercial. [1:32:42, 1:32:44]: to M one light manufacturing. [1:32:45, 1:32:50]: to allow for development of business distribution center within five within five new buildings. [1:32:50, 1:32:55]: The property is located at land lot 57 of the 12th district within the Stockbridge city limits. [1:32:56, 1:33:02]: It contains three parcels with uh 79.17 acres as follows. [1:33:03, 1:33:10]: Parcel zero three zero dash zero one zero zero nine zero zero zero contains seventy three point eight acres. [1:33:10, 1:33:15]: Located to the rear of the southwest corner of Davison Parkway and Walter Way. [1:33:15, 1:33:28]: Parcel 030-01009006 contains 1.66 acres located on the south side of Davidson Parkway, one lot west of Walter Way. [1:33:28, 1:33:42]: Parcel number 030-01009005 contains 3.63 acres located on the west side of Walterway, two lots south of Davison Parkway. [1:33:42, 1:33:45]: And this I believe is going to be presented by [1:33:45, 1:33:47]: Ms. Johnson, is that correct? [1:33:49, 1:33:55]: Hello, Mayor Ford. It's actually going to be presented by um Linda Logan, our senior planner. [1:33:55, 1:33:57]: Okay, Miss Logan. [1:33:57, 1:33:58]: Under? [1:33:58, 1:34:01]: Yes, hello everyone. Uh good evening. [1:34:01, 1:34:02]: Yeah. [1:34:04, 1:34:07]: I'm gonna set up my I have my presentations open. [1:34:07, 1:34:10]: Um clicked on the share screen button here. [1:34:15, 1:34:16]: Okay. [1:34:17, 1:34:20]: Is that can anyone see this? Can't can't see a thing at this point, please. [1:34:25, 1:34:27]: Okay, here we go. [1:34:27, 1:34:28]: See now? [1:34:29, 1:34:31]: Yes, there we go. Now we now we see it. [1:34:31, 1:34:32]: Okay, so this is [1:34:34, 1:34:35]: This is a cover sheet, Mayor. You [1:34:36, 1:34:38]: covered a lot of this. You read the um [1:34:38, 1:34:43]: Okay. [1:34:43, 1:34:46]: Represented by Ba Battle Law Law Firm. [1:34:46, 1:34:52]: That who's the agent, the rez the rezoning request is to rezone property from C three heavy commercial. [1:34:52, 1:34:54]: M1 light manufacturing. [1:34:54, 1:34:55]: Um [1:34:55, 1:34:57]: And this is the parcel information now. [1:34:58, 1:35:02]: There were three parcels which you read into the record, Mr. Mayor. The applicant though has [1:35:03, 1:35:05]: Requested that one of the parcels um [1:35:06, 1:35:06]: Be removed. [1:35:07, 1:35:11]: uh from further consideration that is a small parcel across from [1:35:12, 1:35:13]: Uh Walter Way. [1:35:13, 1:35:21]: And that is a parcel number 030 hyphen 01009005 with 3.63 acres. [1:35:21, 1:35:24]: Because that is not part of the project. [1:35:25, 1:35:32]: So now the the lot size and the acreage is now seventy-five point five four acres within the two parcels. [1:35:32, 1:35:37]: property is located in northwest Stark Bridge, south of Davidson Parkway and west of [1:35:38, 1:35:41]: Walter Way, landlot fifty seven of district twelve. [1:35:41, 1:35:43]: Um right now the property is [1:35:44, 1:35:50]: uh fairly level, it's vacant, mostly wooded. We have Reese Reeves Creek traversing the eastern side of the property. [1:35:52, 1:35:52]: Yeah. [1:35:53, 1:35:54]: And um [1:35:55, 1:35:59]: The zoning is C three proposed use is development of a [1:35:59, 1:36:02]: A business distribution center comprising five buildings. [1:36:03, 1:36:09]: With office and warehouse uses with a total of six hundred ninety-five thousand eight hundred and sixty square feet. [1:36:11, 1:36:18]: We looked at the zoning uh history of the property. There were multiple rezonings for the n adjacent North Bridge Crossing development, which has [1:36:18, 1:36:20]: Residential uses. [1:36:20, 1:36:23]: And that had a DRI review, a development of regional impact. [1:36:24, 1:36:29]: Um went to Atlanta Regional Commission and Georgia Regional Transportation Authority. [1:36:29, 1:36:31]: Um there was a um [1:36:31, 1:36:34]: zoning case and a development agreement for North Bridge Crossing. [1:36:35, 1:36:40]: Um then after that there was a Reeves Creek development, which also had a DRI review. [1:36:40, 1:36:42]: And um and then this project. [1:36:42, 1:36:45]: uh itself had a DRI review as well. [1:36:46, 1:36:47]: uh done a few months ago. [1:36:48, 1:36:52]: The future land use designation of the property is low density vertical mixed use. [1:36:53, 1:36:53]: Um [1:36:54, 1:36:56]: This designation um does not allow. [1:36:56, 1:36:58]: host M1 zoning district. [1:36:59, 1:37:01]: It needs to be changed to light industrial. [1:37:01, 1:37:03]: And the applicant has applied. [1:37:03, 1:37:07]: At the same time for comprehensive la uh plan amendment. [1:37:07, 1:37:12]: via case number CP two oh two one hyphen oh one for this purpose. [1:37:12, 1:37:17]: The road access would be by a small parcel off Davidson Parkway. [1:37:17, 1:37:19]: And um site traffic would come. [1:37:20, 1:37:23]: From interstate семті файв and six seventif. [1:37:23, 1:37:27]: Highway one thirty eight, uh in Clayton County portion of Davidson. [1:37:27, 1:37:28]: Parkway to the north. [1:37:29, 1:37:30]: Emergency [1:37:31, 1:37:34]: um access would also uh be available. [1:37:35, 1:37:37]: Uh through the large parcel of Walter Way. [1:37:38, 1:37:40]: Application was received on July sixth. [1:37:41, 1:37:45]: And um, as you know, the applicant requested a recent deferral at the last meeting. [1:37:46, 1:37:49]: Now the applicant has held three community meetings. [1:37:49, 1:37:53]: To um talk with citizens about the project on august eighteenth. [1:37:54, 1:37:56]: September fifteenth and October twenty seventh. [1:37:57, 1:37:59]: He posted a sign on the property September second. [1:38:00, 1:38:01]: And then we um [1:38:02, 1:38:03]: Reposted the sign after the kit. [1:38:04, 1:38:06]: Case was deferred on October twenty two. [1:38:07, 1:38:12]: Uh some of the things we looked at in the research was the location. [1:38:12, 1:38:16]: Um the property characteristics surrounding land use and zoning. [1:38:16, 1:38:18]: uh future development plans. [1:38:18, 1:38:19]: Um [1:38:19, 1:38:22]: Other studies like Livable Centers Initiative. [1:38:23, 1:38:26]: The um other rezonings as I mentioned a moment ago. [1:38:27, 1:38:31]: Um here is an aerial photo of the property. We have interstates. [1:38:31, 1:38:35]: uh seventy five and and six seventy five here to the west [1:38:35, 1:38:37]: This is the main part of the site. [1:38:38, 1:38:40]: We have the North Bridge Crossing. [1:38:40, 1:38:42]: Residential development here. [1:38:42, 1:38:46]: And then uh d this is Davidson Parkway to the north. [1:38:47, 1:38:49]: And there's a Clayton County line there. [1:38:50, 1:38:52]: And adjacent to this is um [1:38:53, 1:38:55]: M one use of drive time property. [1:38:57, 1:39:01]: Next slide uh shows the uh the three parcels. [1:39:01, 1:39:03]: And and here's Davison partway. [1:39:04, 1:39:07]: The main access would actually occur through this small parcel. [1:39:08, 1:39:11]: Um, this middle one that's the one that's no longer being included. [1:39:12, 1:39:14]: And then this is the large parcel here. [1:39:15, 1:39:20]: Uh surrounding land uses and I'm gonna flip back and forth a moment between two slides. [1:39:21, 1:39:21]: Um [1:39:21, 1:39:26]: Here this is a zoning map in color. The red is the main portion of the site. [1:39:26, 1:39:27]: And um [1:39:28, 1:39:29]: We have um [1:39:29, 1:39:32]: Number one on the site on here is [1:39:32, 1:39:34]: As a Clayton County line with uh [1:39:34, 1:39:36]: Vacant properties. [1:39:36, 1:39:37]: And um [1:39:38, 1:39:41]: Number two is uh also uh vacant. [1:39:42, 1:39:44]: And that's that's in the city. [1:39:44, 1:39:45]: Zone C two. [1:39:46, 1:39:52]: Uh number three, we have uh automobile sh furbishing business that's down here in the blue. [1:39:53, 1:39:55]: And uh number four, um [1:39:56, 1:39:57]: Henry County uses [1:39:58, 1:39:59]: To the south. [1:39:59, 1:40:02]: That's still also the the county line there. [1:40:04, 1:40:06]: And number five, North North Bridge Crossing. [1:40:06, 1:40:08]: Single family zone RM two. [1:40:09, 1:40:09]: Um [1:40:10, 1:40:14]: And it has single family uses right now. That's all that this dark green area. [1:40:15, 1:40:18]: And uh number s number six, of course. [1:40:18, 1:40:21]: are the interstate highways to the west. [1:40:23, 1:40:28]: Uh, one of the studies was the LCI study done a few years ago and it identified [1:40:28, 1:40:34]: Uh this area is being an I seventy five activity center and this is a concept plan that was prepared. [1:40:34, 1:40:36]: Some of the uses in here that are [1:40:36, 1:40:41]: Uh wo were recommended commercial use of hotel, office buildings. [1:40:41, 1:40:43]: uh retail uses and so forth. [1:40:44, 1:40:46]: For the area and this is the actual site here. [1:40:47, 1:40:50]: With uh the inner states uh to the south. So this was their [1:40:50, 1:40:52]: Vision of how [1:40:52, 1:40:52]: Sorry. [1:40:52, 1:40:53]: uh could develop. [1:40:54, 1:40:59]: And if you want to contrast that with what this this applicant is now proposing. [1:41:00, 1:41:02]: Again, we have the interstates here to the south. [1:41:02, 1:41:03]: This is a site. [1:41:03, 1:41:07]: And this is Davidson Parkway, just to orient you. [1:41:07, 1:41:12]: and a North Bridge Crossing and this is Walter Way here serves this development. [1:41:13, 1:41:15]: And here is the uh drive time. [1:41:16, 1:41:18]: Automobile refurbishing business. [1:41:18, 1:41:21]: So the applicant proposes to build five [1:41:22, 1:41:26]: Uh buildings would be um office combination office warehouse uses. [1:41:27, 1:41:30]: And access would be here off Davidson Parkway. [1:41:30, 1:41:31]: There is the Reeves Creek. [1:41:32, 1:41:33]: Running through the site. [1:41:33, 1:41:35]: And there would the the driveway. [1:41:36, 1:41:40]: uh would be near there and there'd be a a walking trail adjacent to it. [1:41:40, 1:41:41]: Uh [1:41:41, 1:41:46]: Quite a bit of surface parking as you can see in the gray for both employee and [1:41:47, 1:41:49]: Um trailer truck uh parking spaces. [1:41:51, 1:41:52]: Okay. [1:41:52, 1:41:58]: Uh project impact. So a traffic impact study was performed by the applicant's traffic engineer. [1:41:59, 1:42:00]: Um [1:42:00, 1:42:07]: And uh one of the things that we noticed is that it stated that nearboy nearby intersections would operate at levels of service E and F. [1:42:08, 1:42:10]: Those are uh the least desirable. [1:42:11, 1:42:13]: Uh yet no traffic improvements were recommended. [1:42:14, 1:42:17]: Uh the DRI review was done by uh Greta. [1:42:18, 1:42:19]: In their notice of decision. [1:42:19, 1:42:23]: Um, they identified a few conditions for spending state funds. [1:42:24, 1:42:25]: If this project were to be built. [1:42:26, 1:42:27]: And these include [1:42:27, 1:42:31]: Providing sidewalks along the development's frontage on P Davidson Parkway. [1:42:32, 1:42:34]: Stalling a crosswalk at the driveway entrance. [1:42:35, 1:42:39]: Installing pedestrian infrastructure within the site along the driveway. [1:42:39, 1:42:41]: And installing signage to restrict [1:42:42, 1:42:47]: trucks on Davidson Parkway between Walter Way and North Henry Boulevard to prevent them from going. [1:42:47, 1:42:50]: East and that's something that the city also supports. [1:42:51, 1:42:57]: Um the DRI review done by Atlanta Regional Commission ARC said the project would be [1:42:57, 1:43:00]: compatible with several of their regional plans and policies. [1:43:02, 1:43:03]: Okay. [1:43:04, 1:43:05]: Um [1:43:05, 1:43:09]: In our analysis, we have a number of criteria we looked at. [1:43:09, 1:43:12]: Criteria number one, consistency with this comprehensive plan. [1:43:13, 1:43:18]: Proposed project would not be compatible with because proposed M1 zoning district is not allowed. [1:43:19, 1:43:21]: in the property's current land use designation. [1:43:22, 1:43:28]: Criteria number two, relation of the proposed zoning amendment to the overall purpose of the zoning code. [1:43:29, 1:43:31]: Uh zoning code has a number of purposes and [1:43:32, 1:43:33]: I listed them here. [1:43:33, 1:43:36]: So we're saying that the proposed use would not promote [1:43:37, 1:43:42]: The prosperity and general welfare of the adjacent North Bridge Crossing neighborhood. [1:43:42, 1:43:46]: It would add to rather than minimize congestion on the surrounding streets. [1:43:47, 1:43:48]: And disrupt um [1:43:49, 1:43:50]: residential neighborhood. [1:43:50, 1:43:51]: Truck. [1:43:51, 1:43:52]: Tractor trailer trucks. [1:43:52, 1:43:55]: could present safety hazards to pedestrians. [1:43:56, 1:44:00]: It would cause a significant concentration of population and overcrowding on the property. [1:44:01, 1:44:04]: There would be a huge influx of additional traffic in the neighborhood. [1:44:05, 1:44:10]: And since the property is landlocked, all project trucks would be required to utilize Davidson Partway. [1:44:11, 1:44:15]: And in general, it's not desirable to have industrial uses next to residential uses. [1:44:16, 1:44:16]: Um [1:44:17, 1:44:21]: And the property could alternatively be developed as it is currently zoned. [1:44:22, 1:44:25]: with commercial uses as three studies recommended. [1:44:25, 1:44:28]: LCI study, Northridge Cross and DRI and Reese Creek. [1:44:29, 1:44:30]: Uh D R I. [1:44:32, 1:44:41]: Uh next uh criterion number three, potential positive effects of the resulting amendment on the uh character of the uh neighborhood and community. [1:44:42, 1:44:44]: Um it would bring new jobs to the city, serve as a [1:44:45, 1:44:46]: visual gateway. [1:44:46, 1:44:47]: From the interstates. [1:44:48, 1:44:52]: and extend existing M one district uh adjacent to property to the south. [1:44:53, 1:44:57]: Criteria number four, physical conditions. The site is physically suitable. [1:44:57, 1:44:58]: Um [1:44:58, 1:45:00]: Again, but it's since it's landlocked it's not a good [1:45:01, 1:45:03]: good location for a large number of trucks that would need to [1:45:04, 1:45:05]: funnel through lar one [1:45:05, 1:45:06]: Access point. [1:45:07, 1:45:10]: Criterion number five, impact on adjacent property owners. [1:45:11, 1:45:14]: If this is re uh grant is um request is granted. [1:45:15, 1:45:21]: Proposed industrial use and large number of trucks would be incompatible with adjacent residential neighborhood. [1:45:22, 1:45:26]: uh disrupting its tranquility and presenting a hazard to pedestrians and personal vehicles. [1:45:27, 1:45:28]: Um [1:45:28, 1:45:34]: Now to reduce impacts of the existing drivetime traffic, that drive time is the property to the southeast. [1:45:35, 1:45:46]: on the adjacent residential neighborhood, it would be desirable if dry autonomous trucks could be rerouted to travel through the subject property with a connecting driveway between the two properties. [1:45:47, 1:45:50]: Um and therefore the applicant should continue to contact. [1:45:51, 1:45:54]: drive time officials to try to arrange for such a connection to be made. [1:45:56, 1:46:00]: Criterion number six potential impact of the rezoning on city infrastructure. [1:46:01, 1:46:04]: Water and sewer services are available to the site. [1:46:05, 1:46:12]: Number seven, impact the proposed amendment on adjacent thoroughfares and um pedestrian vehicle circulation. [1:46:12, 1:46:13]: And traffic volumes. [1:46:14, 1:46:18]: So again the traffic impact studies um mentioned levels. [1:46:18, 1:46:19]: Service levels E and F. [1:46:20, 1:46:21]: But um [1:46:21, 1:46:23]: No improvements at this time. [1:46:23, 1:46:24]: Um [1:46:24, 1:46:27]: I mentioned Greta's conditions approval. [1:46:27, 1:46:30]: And other thing other traffic impacts. [1:46:31, 1:46:34]: Uh Davidson Parkway may need to be re uh widened. [1:46:34, 1:46:36]: Due to the curvature of the roads. [1:46:37, 1:46:38]: And uh amount of traffic. [1:46:39, 1:46:46]: And also, there may be uh significant impacts of truck traffic on existing businesses on the northern part of. [1:46:46, 1:46:48]: Davidson Parkway. [1:46:48, 1:46:49]: Um [1:46:49, 1:46:53]: Criterion number eight, merits of this re this uh requested rezoning. [1:46:54, 1:46:58]: Um, proposed project would not be compatible with the recommendations again of those. [1:46:58, 1:47:01]: other studies that I mentioned a few moments ago. [1:47:02, 1:47:04]: Uh on number nine. [1:47:04, 1:47:07]: The ability of the subject land to be developed as it's currently zoned. [1:47:07, 1:47:10]: Again, we as those studies mentioned. [1:47:10, 1:47:15]: A property could be be developed under its current C three zoning. [1:47:15, 1:47:17]: Аз ресторанц, хотела [1:47:17, 1:47:22]: Medical facilities, convention center, and so forth. This is what uh the Reese Creek DRI. [1:47:22, 1:47:23]: Plan, um [1:47:23, 1:47:24]: Recommended. [1:47:25, 1:47:26]: And these would be [1:47:26, 1:47:29]: We view these as being pro preferable. [1:47:29, 1:47:33]: Preferable to the proposed industrial development for three reasons. [1:47:34, 1:47:37]: There'd be access absence of tractor trailer trucks. [1:47:37, 1:47:38]: Um [1:47:38, 1:47:40]: Even though it may be um [1:47:40, 1:47:49]: Commercial development may have more numbers of traffic, but yet that would be better than having so many trucks going through the neighborhood and the vicinity. [1:47:50, 1:47:53]: The other types of commercial y uses that could be developed. [1:47:54, 1:47:56]: could provide services to the general public. [1:47:57, 1:48:02]: Uh whereas a proposed industrial development would be more internally uh oriented. [1:48:02, 1:48:05]: serving the businesses on a site rather than the public. [1:48:06, 1:48:08]: And we see this uh property is [1:48:08, 1:48:15]: uh being one of the last large undeveloped tracts of land in the city. So there's a scarcity of those. [1:48:15, 1:48:20]: And so it's a unique opportunity maybe to do something special there that will benefit the public. [1:48:21, 1:48:24]: So we therefore recommend planning zoning staff recommends the Nile. [1:48:24, 1:48:26]: Proposed uh rezoning. [1:48:27, 1:48:27]: Um [1:48:28, 1:48:31]: to of the property from C three to M one. Um [1:48:32, 1:48:34]: However, if the city decides to [1:48:35, 1:48:40]: Approve these uh through these uh this uh request, we have identified a number of zoning conditions. [1:48:41, 1:48:41]: Um [1:48:42, 1:48:46]: Guess I should read these for uh for the record. I need to move this. [1:48:46, 1:48:47]: Yeah, let me think okay. [1:48:48, 1:48:50]: Um move m [1:48:50, 1:48:53]: Read these for the record. So these are proposed um [1:48:54, 1:48:59]: zoning conditions that we rec recommend if the council decides to approve this request. Number one. [1:49:00, 1:49:05]: Regarding the future land use designation, the approval of this resulting request should be contingent upon. [1:49:06, 1:49:09]: future land use designation of the subject property being changed from its current [1:49:10, 1:49:13]: Low density vertical mixed use designation. [1:49:13, 1:49:15]: To the light industrial designation. [1:49:15, 1:49:18]: To allow for the rezoning of the property to M one. [1:49:18, 1:49:22]: This shall be done via the approval of the applicants rest requested. [1:49:22, 1:49:24]: Comprehensive plan amendment. [1:49:24, 1:49:28]: Which comprises case number C P two oh two one hyphen oh one. [1:49:30, 1:49:33]: Number two, regarding the recombination of parcels. [1:49:33, 1:49:39]: A if the applicant wishes to rezone subject property for the express purposes of developing a proposed [1:49:39, 1:49:41]: Davidson Parkway Commerce Center. [1:49:42, 1:49:45]: Then the request of rezoning of the property shall be contingent upon. [1:49:46, 1:49:47]: And not be completed until [1:49:48, 1:49:52]: recombination of the properties two parcels into one parcel is approved by [1:49:52, 1:49:54]: Planning commission and a new plot. [1:49:54, 1:49:59]: Well, the property is officially recorded with the Henry County Superior Court real estate division office. [1:50:00, 1:50:05]: Uh B, if the applicant wishes to rezone each of the two parcels individually without combining them. [1:50:06, 1:50:07]: Then no recombination plat. [1:50:08, 1:50:12]: Application is required, however, the proposed development may not occur. [1:50:14, 1:50:19]: Number three, regarding a connection, connecting access to the drivetime establishment. [1:50:20, 1:50:23]: The applicant shall collaborate with the drive time owners. [1:50:23, 1:50:26]: To consider rerouting vehicle traffic out of [1:50:27, 1:50:30]: And away from the North Bridge Crossing Residential Development. [1:50:31, 1:50:34]: By means of a connecting driveway through the subject property. [1:50:35, 1:50:36]: If such a condition is [1:50:36, 1:50:40]: feasible with regard to topography and other physical [1:50:40, 1:50:41]: property conditions. [1:50:42, 1:50:46]: If such a condition is possible and agreed upon, then its location shall be shown. [1:50:46, 1:50:49]: on a modified version of the site plan. [1:50:49, 1:50:49]: Okay. [1:50:52, 1:50:54]: Number four regarding a site plan. [1:50:55, 1:51:00]: The applicant submitted an amended site plan, which was titled Davidson Parkway Commerce Center. [1:51:00, 1:51:02]: B R I three three oh nine. [1:51:03, 1:51:07]: And prepared by Eberline Associates on July nineteenth, twenty twenty one. [1:51:08, 1:51:12]: However, the proposed development shall occur according to a new but similar site plan. [1:51:12, 1:51:13]: Mm. [1:51:13, 1:51:15]: Which makes the filing minor modifications. [1:51:17, 1:51:18]: A nature trail. [1:51:18, 1:51:22]: Relocation the nature trail away from this project driveway. [1:51:22, 1:51:26]: And to an acceptable location near the creek and buff areas. [1:51:27, 1:51:29]: On the eastern side of the subject property. [1:51:30, 1:51:31]: If this is not possible. [1:51:31, 1:51:36]: Then acceptable physical barrier shall be constructed between the nature trail [1:51:36, 1:51:38]: A proposed dryway to protect [1:51:38, 1:51:40]: Педстрианство. [1:51:40, 1:51:41]: Using the dryway. [1:51:44, 1:51:48]: Truck staging B indication on the site plan as was noted by Aries ARC. [1:51:49, 1:51:52]: Of an acceptable truck staging plan to prevent the queuing. [1:51:53, 1:51:55]: Of heavy trucks on surrounding streets. [1:51:56, 1:52:01]: Five regarding landscape design, a developer shall submit an acceptable landscape design plan. [1:52:02, 1:52:06]: The proposed development during the plan review process for a land disturbance permit. [1:52:08, 1:52:12]: Six regarding buffering, the developer shall meet all city, county, state, [1:52:12, 1:52:16]: And federal requirements pertaining to the provision of sufficient buffers. [1:52:17, 1:52:22]: And related environmental protections in connection with existing streams on the subject property. [1:52:23, 1:52:25]: Seven regarding architectural design. [1:52:25, 1:52:29]: The proposed buildings shall have such design and exterior building materials [1:52:30, 1:52:32]: Give them the appearance of office buildings. [1:52:33, 1:52:37]: All warehouse areas and truck bays shall be adequately screened. [1:52:40, 1:52:46]: Uh, number eight, regarding transportation improvements, the developer shall meet all of the requirements that are specified. [1:52:46, 1:52:51]: And red is attached notice of decision for DRI number three three oh nine. [1:52:51, 1:52:54]: Dated August nine, twenty twenty one. [1:52:54, 1:52:57]: Which includes its attachment a general conditions. [1:52:57, 1:53:01]: Attachment B required elements of the DRI plan of development. [1:53:02, 1:53:05]: And attachment C required improvements to serve the DRI. [1:53:06, 1:53:11]: Um number nine, regarding procedural manners, procedural matters, A. [1:53:11, 1:53:15]: The applicant or developer shall submit a recombination plat application. [1:53:16, 1:53:17]: For review and approval. [1:53:17, 1:53:21]: by the planning commission after the rezoning of the property is approved. [1:53:21, 1:53:25]: B after recombination plot has been approved by the planning commission. [1:53:25, 1:53:26]: It shall be recorded. [1:53:27, 1:53:30]: With the Henry County Superior Court and a copy shall be provided to the city. [1:53:31, 1:53:32]: Before the sitting may [1:53:32, 1:53:36]: issue any land disturbance or building permits for the proposed development. [1:53:37, 1:53:42]: C in compliance with section twelve point twelve point oh one six [1:53:42, 1:53:45]: Parentheses six of the stock root zoning code. [1:53:45, 1:53:49]: Entitled Application Subject to Mayor and Council Action. [1:53:49, 1:53:53]: Any proposed modifications to the conditions of an approved rezoning. [1:53:53, 1:53:55]: shall be reviewed and [1:53:55, 1:53:57]: decisions rendered by the mayor and council. [1:53:58, 1:54:00]: For such purpose, the applicant developer [1:54:00, 1:54:01]: Shall submit a [1:54:01, 1:54:03]: Zoning modification. [1:54:03, 1:54:05]: application of the city's planning and zoning staff. [1:54:06, 1:54:08]: And D in compliance. [1:54:08, 1:54:12]: Section twelve point twelve point oh oh three parentheses a [1:54:12, 1:54:14]: Of the stockward zoning code. [1:54:15, 1:54:15]: Call. [1:54:16, 1:54:17]: Expiration of approvals. [1:54:17, 1:54:21]: Zoning classification of the property may revert back to C three. [1:54:21, 1:54:26]: or to some other zoning classification after a period of eighteen months. [1:54:26, 1:54:28]: If the mayor and city council chooses [1:54:28, 1:54:31]: If substantial progress has not been achieved. [1:54:31, 1:54:36]: in the construction of the proposed development whereby the first inspection is carried out. [1:54:37, 1:54:38]: Um [1:54:38, 1:54:40]: That was my last slide. Um [1:54:40, 1:54:45]: The applicant has some additional conditions that they have proposed. [1:54:45, 1:55:05]: And may present separately if they wish. Are there any questions about my presentation? Well, before you go on that presentation, Council, bear with me for a second. There's a phase two to this that did not read into the record. Let me read that phase two and then we'll go to questions and see if there's anything else from the applicant andor Ms. Logan we had to add. Comprehensive plan amendment case number six. [1:55:05, 1:55:25]: CP-2021-01, the City of Stockbridge Planning Commission and the City of Stockbridge, Mayor and City Council will hear the comprehensive plan amendment request by the East Group Properties LP. The applicant to change the future land use designation of certain property from low density vertical mixed use to light industrial to allow for the development of business. [1:55:25, 1:55:45]: Business distribution center within five new buildings. The property is located in landlock 57 of District 12 within the city limit, the stopbridge city limits, and it contains three parcels of 79.17 total acres as follows. Parcel 030-01009-000 contains 73.88 acres located at the rear of the south. [1:55:45, 1:56:05]: West Corner of Davidson Parkway and Walter Way. Parcel 030-01009006 contains 1.66 acres located on the south side of Davidson Parkway, one lot west of Walter Way. And then also parcel 030-01009005 contains 3.638. [1:56:05, 1:56:18]: acres located in the west side. I walked away two lots south of David Parkway. Read that that was phase number two. I believe you cover covered that as well. Uh Ms. Logan, I don't know if there's anything else that you need to add from your presentation prior to taking that question. [1:56:18, 1:56:22]: I have a separate presentation. It's it's uh shorter, much shorter. [1:56:23, 1:56:43]: And um some of the same information that you just mentioned again that's me may afford yeah, I was gonna say standby. Let's let's yeah, let's go. I'm sorry, stand by. I maybe I jumped the gun here. So let's go back and for the for the first part of the presentation, see if there's any additional questions from the council and then for the applicant before we move on to the next one, Ms. Logan. Council, you have any questions at all for the first. [1:56:42, 1:56:43]: presentation. [1:56:46, 1:56:51]: Uh I I don't have any questions, but the need to read every sentence, is that necessary? [1:56:53, 1:56:55]: I was reading it into the record, just [1:56:56, 1:56:57]: I mean is it? [1:56:58, 1:57:10]: Well, we wanna make sure we get we capture everything uh properly. I would imagine I mean it's noted for us in the notes. I mean, it's it's there for everybody to see, but I mean, if we're gonna read every paragraph, I mean, is that really necessary? [1:57:12, 1:57:24]: Well, I would I would just venture to say we just gotta make sure we we document everything properly. That's what my my comment would be. Um are there any questions specifically in reference to the first part of this presentation for the council? [1:57:25, 1:57:32]: I don't see any at this point. And you uh Ms. Logan, you said the applicant is available. Does he have any additional things to add on this first portion of this of this presentation? [1:57:34, 1:57:36]: The applicant has some additional [1:57:36, 1:57:38]: conditions that they recommended. [1:57:39, 1:57:39]: Okay. [1:57:40, 1:57:44]: And that African is who's that? Is that Mr. Coleman? Is that you, sir? Or is it somebody else? [1:57:45, 1:57:50]: Um mayor forward, Michelle Battle here with Battle Law. Okay, there you go. Go ahead and go ahead. [1:57:51, 1:58:11]: Yes, um we do have a PowerPoint, but I'm not sure if you are inviting us um to do our presentation. I don't know if it makes sense to do both the rezoning and the seat the comp plan change so that we can do our presentation as one because we don't have separate presentations. [1:58:11, 1:58:26]: for the rezoning and the comprehensive plan. So it's all it's all together is what it amounts to. Yes, sir. All right. Yes, sir. Um okay, let's let's okay back up for one second, please. Any uh counsel, any other questions in reference to the first portion of this presentation? [1:58:27, 1:58:30]: If there are no questions, we'll move on to the second portion. [1:58:30, 1:58:32]: If that is the case. [1:58:32, 1:58:36]: Mayor Ford, if I may, uh just for the record, I did want to state that [1:58:37, 1:58:42]: The planning commission heard the public hearing, both public hearings on September twenty-third. [1:58:42, 1:58:47]: of this year and their recommendation was for denial. I just want to breathe that into the record. [1:58:47, 1:58:48]: Okay. [1:58:49, 1:58:55]: All right. Mayor Ford, I I got a question real quick. So the first part is the first part of the presentation for the zoning. [1:58:56, 1:59:01]: And the second part is for something else, right? Yeah, right. Comprehensive plan amendment, yes. [1:59:02, 1:59:03]: So if we [1:59:03, 1:59:10]: vote, we go ahead and move forward with the agenda part of the rezoning and we make a determination on how we want to go. [1:59:10, 1:59:13]: 'Cause I have some concerns that this doesn't fit. [1:59:14, 1:59:14]: Arab. [1:59:14, 1:59:17]: our um LCI plan. [1:59:17, 1:59:19]: Nor I comprehensive plan. [1:59:20, 1:59:22]: Um, based off of the what I've read. [1:59:23, 1:59:24]: Plus the seven hundred and [1:59:25, 1:59:26]: I'm sorry, the four hundred and four. [1:59:27, 1:59:30]: additional trucks coming onto the road each day. [1:59:30, 1:59:36]: Mm-hmm. Along with the seven hundred and seven personal vehicles that would come on, in addition to [1:59:36, 1:59:44]: My biggest concern was the DRI sent and Greta saying that there were no improvements that were gonna be required needed. [1:59:44, 1:59:46]: during that travel and impact study. [1:59:47, 1:59:50]: You're talking about 404 tractor trailer trucks. [1:59:51, 1:59:57]: So if we're talking about I think that part two wouldn't even matter if we went ahead and voted on part one unless [1:59:58, 1:59:59]: Someone's in favor of part one. [2:00:00, 2:00:20]: Well, well, we'll it may not be, but uh once again, the I was wondering if there's any questions for rezoning on part one and then uh read part two in the record and the presentation for that. And then I believe what it is, Ms. Battle has uh a presentation to make involving both of those. We need to hear them out before we make a final decision anyway, and it's a public hearing. [2:00:20, 2:00:22]: And so I have to open that up as well. [2:00:22, 2:00:25]: Uh mayor mayor. [2:00:25, 2:00:26]: Yes. [2:00:26, 2:00:30]: I I certainly concur with that and uh in the need for us to [2:00:31, 2:00:33]: uh go through a a lot of uh [2:00:33, 2:00:37]: You know, what we're going through. I mean, I just never really seen a staff. [2:00:37, 2:00:54]: go through uh there the applicant is supposed to make the presentation and looks like the staff making the presentation. Now it's taken a long time for us to get to this point right here and we got two more presentations to go to. We I think uh we have all of us have some of these similar concerns. [2:00:55, 2:01:06]: Okay. I understand. Uh in reference once again, in reference to the the first part of this hearing, for no other kind of uh council comments, um miss well whether the applicant or well. [2:01:07, 2:01:11]: Well, Miss Logan, you have something else on the comprehensive plan. You have a second piece of this. Is that right? [2:01:11, 2:01:15]: Yes. [2:01:16, 2:01:18]: But uh s a few uh other things too. [2:01:19, 2:01:28]: Well, I'll tell you what, if if if it's already if something's already been covered, maybe you mean you you can possibly miss that or not cover that and cover things that may not already be covered. Okay. [2:01:29, 2:01:31]: Yes, sir. That's what we're planning to do. Okay, go write it, please. [2:01:32, 2:01:35]: Okay, so some of these c case facts were the same. [2:01:35, 2:01:40]: Except down here the the again the comprehensive plan request is a change of properties, future land des [2:01:41, 2:01:43]: Language designation from low density. [2:01:43, 2:01:45]: Vertical mix use to light industrial. [2:01:46, 2:01:49]: In order to allow the proposed zoning from C three to M one. [2:01:49, 2:01:52]: Um covered these. Now here is [2:01:52, 2:01:54]: Stockridge future land use map. [2:01:55, 2:01:58]: Proper subject property is here in this uh [2:01:58, 2:02:01]: Pink color right here shows low density residential. [2:02:02, 2:02:08]: Um the proposed proposal is to re to change it to uh light light industrial. [2:02:08, 2:02:09]: Um [2:02:10, 2:02:11]: Which would be the [2:02:12, 2:02:13]: Light gray colour. [2:02:14, 2:02:15]: Okay. [2:02:16, 2:02:16]: We've covered. [2:02:17, 2:02:19]: We covered this slide and this slide. [2:02:19, 2:02:20]: Uh no, I'm sorry, we didn't [2:02:21, 2:02:25]: It this is an enlargement of the future land use map for the subject property. [2:02:25, 2:02:26]: So um [2:02:27, 2:02:28]: Here is a side. [2:02:28, 2:02:31]: And low density vertical mixed use. [2:02:31, 2:02:35]: Uh here and there would and there are some of the same land uses. [2:02:35, 2:02:36]: Uh adjacent. [2:02:38, 2:02:41]: Okay, so we covered the rezoning and DRI. [2:02:42, 2:02:46]: Now I wanted to mention down here the importance of a property's future land use designation. [2:02:46, 2:02:49]: Relative to its zoning classification. [2:02:49, 2:02:50]: Um [2:02:50, 2:02:57]: And the a proposed zoning district must be permitted within permitted within the property's future land use designation. [2:02:57, 2:03:02]: That that's uh mandatory and new developments should promote a better sense of place. [2:03:02, 2:03:03]: And preserve valued M [2:03:04, 2:03:06]: elements of community character. [2:03:06, 2:03:08]: Those are things that [2:03:08, 2:03:11]: are in stated in in the comprehensive plan. [2:03:11, 2:03:12]: Uh document. [2:03:12, 2:03:14]: Uh here are a few definitions. [2:03:14, 2:03:19]: Future landings designation, so low density vertical mixed use, which the property has now. [2:03:20, 2:03:24]: Should mainly serve residents of the surrounding residential neighborhoods. [2:03:25, 2:03:30]: And future development and redevelopment should maintain the community oriented feel of these areas. [2:03:30, 2:03:35]: Now the proposed light industrial landings designation is intended for business parks. [2:03:36, 2:03:40]: Which incorporate offices along with other uses such as warehouses and light manufacturing. [2:03:41, 2:03:43]: And buffers are required adjacent to [2:03:43, 2:03:44]: Residential areas. [2:03:45, 2:03:47]: Uh I wanted to mention um [2:03:48, 2:03:51]: purposes of zoning district,'cause this is all tied together, C three. [2:03:52, 2:03:54]: Purpose to provide commercial activities. [2:03:55, 2:03:59]: Provide products and services that require locations near major roads and highways. [2:03:59, 2:04:04]: And provide services that would not be appropriate in C one and C two districts. [2:04:04, 2:04:06]: The M One district purpose. [2:04:07, 2:04:10]: provide light industrial uses uses which should be n nuisance free. [2:04:11, 2:04:13]: Not generators of hazardous waste. [2:04:13, 2:04:14]: And these should be [2:04:14, 2:04:17]: Located on arterial or major collector streets. [2:04:17, 2:04:20]: or with industrial parks having access to such thoroughfares. [2:04:21, 2:04:23]: Analysis of request. [2:04:23, 2:04:28]: Well, okay, number one, is this is the proposal consistency with the comprehensive plan? No. [2:04:29, 2:04:32]: Number two, relation to the purpose intent of the zoning code. [2:04:32, 2:04:33]: These are several [2:04:33, 2:04:35]: uh criteria that were listed. [2:04:36, 2:04:41]: Uh does it promote the prosperity and general welfare of city residents? We say no. [2:04:41, 2:04:46]: Does it min would it mim minimize congestion on public streets? We say no. [2:04:46, 2:04:48]: Would advance traffic safety? No. [2:04:49, 2:04:51]: Would it prevent the overcrowding of land? No. [2:04:52, 2:04:55]: Would it facilitate the adequate provision of transportation? No. [2:04:55, 2:04:58]: Would it protect property against blight and deterioration? No. [2:04:59, 2:05:02]: And would it encourage the most appropriate use of land? No. [2:05:05, 2:05:08]: So is this is a suit is the property suitable? Um [2:05:09, 2:05:18]: In terms of its location, no, it's not. Excuse me, excuse me, Linda, for just one second. So I just I just wanted to just point out so we don't have to go through each of the [2:05:18, 2:05:24]: Items drill down one by one. The overall um concern on the staff level was that the [2:05:25, 2:05:27]: The proposed use does not meet the future. [2:05:27, 2:05:37]: uh development plan for this for the case the city. And that's the comprehensive plan. So there are a number of different components of that plan, which we could not um [2:05:38, 2:05:41]: the the use that's being proposed is not compatible. [2:05:41, 2:05:53]: So I just want to kind of do a wrap up. The recommendation is for denial. If you'll go to the last slide, Linda, thank you. And then the zoning conditions, if you guys did decide to approve it, stand just as they would. [2:05:53, 2:05:55]: Um for the rezoning itself. [2:05:55, 2:06:02]: And um that would conclude our presentation for both public hearings. And thank you very much, Linda. [2:06:04, 2:06:10]: All right. On that note, then uh Ms. Battle, you have something you now to present to the council as well. Is that correct? [2:06:10, 2:06:13]: Yes, if we could um share the screen, that would be helpful. [2:06:39, 2:06:59]: All right, Ms. Badelak, please the screen is up and you go right ahead. Okay. Thank you. Um, as Linda indicated, we are seeking to rezone from C3 to M1 and to amend the future land use from low density vertical mix use to light industrial. I should say that um quite honestly, when we first started speaking with staff, um [2:06:59, 2:07:19]: Prior to Ms. Johnson being um uh hired for her current position, um, we had had uh conversations with staff, and quite honestly, um it was a bit to our dismay that we were even required to seek a rezoning from uh the current C3 to M1 because. [2:07:19, 2:07:39]: Our use is primarily a use of office space. We are seeking to have office space on this property, larger office space, but there's certainly no limit that we saw in either the C2 or C3 districts with regards to office space for the types of uses that we would be. [2:07:39, 2:07:59]: Placing on the property. The C3 zoning designation seemed as if it would work because it also allowed for both many warehouses and warehouses with no limit to the size of those either. But we were told by staff that we could not come under that C3 zoning designation. [2:07:59, 2:08:15]: in the existing land use and that we had to seek a rezoning to M1 with the light industrial use. And so that is what we had acquiesced in, even though we certainly felt that we could fit snugly within the existing zoning. [2:08:16, 2:08:36]: Um, that all being said, we are seeking to do an office and distribution business park with 696 square feet of space, 761 parking spots, and the generation of between 2,000 and 3,000 jobs between the permanent jobs, some of which would be on site, some of which would be [2:08:36, 2:08:56]: Would be hybrid jobs and some of which would be remote jobs, as well as construction jobs that would be generated from the project. When we look at the original site plan that was approved, the last one that was currently approved in 2009, you will see that there are a multiplicity of uses that are proposed. [2:08:56, 2:09:13]: Find it a bit interesting. Um, staff has focused very much on the truck traffic and the amount of traffic that our um project will generate, but there seems to be no emphasis on the um amount of traffic that this project will generate when we're looking at over 255. [2:09:13, 2:09:33]: Um 255,351 square feet of space being built out with gas stations, self-storage restaurants, offices, technical schools, multiple hotels, and office retail uses. What we are proposing is a more cohesive. [2:09:33, 2:09:41]: Project in which there will be one owner of the property. Um, they do that being the East Group, a very high-end. [2:09:41, 2:10:01]: Um product that will allow for high-end businesses to come into this community and provide stable jobs for the area, as well as actually being a fairly attractive, actually a very attractive facade for the buildings with the opportunity. [2:10:02, 2:10:07]: again for people who would be working in these spaces to also live and [2:10:07, 2:10:27]: in play um in the stock bridge area. I find what's on one of the things that's interesting about this area period is that with drive time in the back, which was certainly an industrial use that was there actually prior to the North Bridge Crossing community coming on board, that this area really changed in character only because of that [2:10:27, 2:10:47]: That North Bridge Crossing community coming into play. And what we know is that the developer, who actually is a client of mine that had originally proposed this project, was unable to move forward with the North Bridge Crossing component of the project where the retail was to be built and some of the other components. [2:10:47, 2:11:07]: But it was certainly a vision one could say that the city bought into because a lot of changes were made in the comprehensive plan and in other plans to adapt to a project that actually never came to fruition. It is certainly a vision, but it has a vision means nothing if no one is willing to build it. And that is where we say. [2:11:07, 2:11:27]: It now because the current owner of the property has found nobody that has been interested in building the project is currently configured. When we look at transportation, which seems to be one of the largest issues that we have had to face with this, we did go through the DRI review process. What we can see is that with regards to the truck traffic, [2:11:26, 2:11:46]: There is a heavy truck route. And all of our trucks will be coming down Davidson Circle, going into the facility and then going back out the same exact way. We are not Mannheim Auto Auction or the drive time facility, which is coming through the center of a community or at least around the periphery. And then [2:11:46, 2:12:06]: Swinging back around this residential community. That is not us. We are a product in a project, should I say, that will not have that intrusion into the residential community in the same way that the current project that is approved on this site will generate. [2:12:06, 2:12:26]: Six times the amount of traffic, if it were built out, um, that we have. So if we're really seriously concerned about traffic, then our project should be viewed as the optimal project because we will actually be generating significantly less traffic than what is currently proposed on the site. Um, when we look at what Greta did and [2:12:26, 2:12:46]: And I think that um you know between the traffic study, and we do, I believe, have our traffic engineer here and he can speak to um the lack of uh as one says, improvements that have been um suggested. Um, what we know is that um Greta did approve with the notice of decision, um, the pedestrian paths and [2:12:46, 2:13:06]: And signage within the project area and some additional corridor studies that would need to be done, in addition to making sure that there was still an opportunity to connect into the parkway that was supposed to be developed in connection with the 300 acres that. [2:13:06, 2:13:08]: that lies immediately south of this site. [2:13:10, 2:13:30]: When we look at the trip comparison generation, although Davidson Parkway Commerce Center, which is the name of our proposed facility, will generate significantly lower daily trips at 1,144 daily trips and 109 and 11 during AM and [2:13:30, 2:13:50]: PM hours, what we know is that the mixed use development is anticipated at generating, and this was based as well on the DRI, 6,360 daily trips for a total of 7,504 daily trips. So if one is truly [2:13:50, 2:14:10]: Concerned about traffic, then why would you pick a project to stay in place that generates six times the amount of traffic that we are seeking to generate? Additionally, there's 421 additional trips during the AM and PM hours that would be generated by. [2:14:10, 2:14:30]: By that mixed-use project. So again, we ask: if there is truly a concern about traffic, why is this project not viewed as the better of the two? Certainly, we know that there will be truck traffic, but our truck traffic is going one way in and one way out and does not have the impact that it would have. [2:14:30, 2:14:47]: Have on the residential community that came after the industrial uses that are already on site. But in order to mitigate against that, over and above what was required in the DRI review, we are proposing the following. Number one. [2:14:48, 2:15:08]: That signage be installed showing no right turn for trucks out of our complex, and that the park entry geometry will also encourage a left turn movement for all of those vehicles. So any trucks coming in would not even have the opportunity to turn right out of the facility. They would have to turn left and go back down Davidson. [2:15:08, 2:15:28]: Parkway or Davidson Circle. The applicant would then work with GDOT to improve the geometry of the intersection for vehicles turning from North Henry Boulevard onto Davidson Parkway. And then we would also install no through no truck through traffic at signs at the intersection of David Park. [2:15:28, 2:15:48]: Davison Parkway in North Henry. We would also provide a minimum 100-foot buffer behind the existing residential lots located off of Walter Way, which abut the subject property and leave the existing stream undisturbed to help screen those residential homes. Further, we will create a multi-use path. [2:15:48, 2:16:08]: Along the existing stream as shown on the site plan, and we'll also donate a one-acre park in close proximity to that multi-use path for the use of the general public. And then finally, we understand the burden that the drive time facility actually places on the city. It is property that is [2:16:08, 2:16:28]: Currently located in unincorporated Henry County. What we are proposing is that the applicant agrees to contact the owners, which we have already started doing, located at 3000 Walter Way, in order to discuss options to create the truck access to the drive-time reconditioning center. But we have gone one [2:16:27, 2:16:47]: One step further than what staff has asked and said that if drive time actually agrees to that alternative truck access, then we will construct and fund the required culvert crossing to the common property line. In other words, we are willing to actually be good neighbors and help the city alleviate a [2:16:47, 2:17:07]: A problem that it currently has by allowing that connectivity into the drive time facility. We know that that drive time facility is what is truly generating most of the problems along that corridor. And we are willing to do what we can to help facilitate getting that issue addressed. [2:17:07, 2:17:27]: Coleman here with the East Group to also speak on some more specificity with regards to the exact uses that are being proposed and the type of facility that is being proposed. But before John comes on, I'd also like to mention this property certainly as the city is continuing to look at opportunities for the city. [2:17:27, 2:17:47]: CID and in your conversations with Henry County and Clayton County about that along 138, that we would want this property considered to be a part of that CID to help to make the right-of-way improvements and other things that would be necessary along that corridor. [2:17:47, 2:17:58]: Because again, East Group is wants to be a good neighbor. And we believe that this facility does fit in with the residential community, allows people to come into this site. [2:17:59, 2:18:19]: And again, to be able to live and work within this area. And we also sent over to staff earlier today and to all of the council members a letter from the developer of the 300 acres immediately south of this site, supporting this project as an opportunity to generate new jobs that would be an enticement to individual. [2:18:19, 2:18:39]: Individuals who would be coming to live in this community. And what we know is that the city has certainly earmarked those areas immediately south of this site as potential annexation into the city. And so here's an opportunity to really have a cohesive project that brings jobs as well as an opportunity. [2:18:39, 2:18:49]: for people to actually live and work in this community and play in this community and support the other businesses that are currently existing within the area. So John, I'll turn it over to you. [2:18:51, 2:18:52]: Great. Uh [2:18:53, 2:18:58]: Thank you, Michelle. Good evening. Thank you, Mr. Mayor and Council members, for your time tonight. [2:18:59, 2:18:59]: Uh [2:19:00, 2:19:20]: Wanted to tell you a little bit about our company, our overall development program. We're going to be developing a business park. Uh, we've been working 18 months uh now on the entitlement process, and we've successfully completed uh the DRI for this project. And that was after two other successful DRIs that were for heavy commercial use. And I think [2:19:20, 2:19:26]: Mich Michelle hit the nail on the head as they weren't put into production because that demand just didn't exist for that use. [2:19:27, 2:19:27]: Um [2:19:28, 2:19:45]: What sets us apart from some of our other peers are we are a long-term owner. There's no intention to sell these buildings after they're developed. We're gonna develop a quality business park that's gonna attract quality companies to the city. Our buildings will include office and showrooms that'll range from 10 to 80 percent of the building. [2:19:46, 2:19:50]: And they typically operate at normal business hours. Uh next slide, Michelle. [2:19:52, 2:19:54]: Let's go on to the next one. I'll circle back to that. [2:19:55, 2:20:15]: Great, thank you. A little bit about our company. We're a real estate investment trust. We own 50 million square feet, uh, all in the Sunbelt uh states highlighted on this map. We are traded on the New York Stock Exchange, uh, and we're well uh financially funded. Uh so that will that way we will be guaranteed to be able to invest the money required for this business. [2:20:15, 2:20:29]: Business Park and Stockbridge. We would start construction immediately upon finalizing our building permits. There's no pre-leasing requirements. We build most of our buildings on spec, so we'd move right into putting this land into production. [2:20:29, 2:20:30]: Uh next slide, please. [2:20:32, 2:20:52]: I wanted to talk about the park design and amenities. The design primarily is a single-story office area facing the high visibility areas. Here, that would include the frontage on 675. We talked about a gateway into the city, but then also internal to the site on Davidson Parkway. Glass on [2:20:52, 2:21:12]: the elevations include multiple uh entryways into the buildings. Our buildings are typically multi-tenant, and that's because our average company size ranges from 30 to 50,000 square feet. We tend to cater to, even though they're national Fortune 500 companies, cater to companies that are local to the doing business [2:21:12, 2:21:23]: Business locally in the area. What we're not is we're not a large regional distribution facility that's gonna have just trucks in and out running from Charlotte to Miami. [2:21:24, 2:21:44]: Uh the types of users that we uh we attract, thank you, include uh pharmaceutical fulfillment. This is the second slide, is a great example of a building in Orlando where we have prime therapeutics, uh which is really Blue Cross, Blue Shield. Uh the same park we have Aetna and Davida. And here you can see the service cart uh court has actually been. [2:21:44, 2:22:00]: And uh uh retrofitted and strike for car parking. And you can see the glass across the back of the building for additional office area. So multiple flex, maximum flexibility across the board, but we're really seeing a lot more activity on the biomed uh side would really [2:22:01, 2:22:08]: uh companies like Pfizer would love to contract, contact them about uh leasing space uh in this park at completion. [2:22:09, 2:22:11]: Um next slide. This is a building in Miami. [2:22:12, 2:22:32]: And other uses that we're seeing that's really uh active in this part of the business cycle is last mile delivery. Uh this park has leases with Best Buy, uh Peloton, and Nike. And um it's proximity to the customers, but also that we're seeing a transition with our buildings where they're offering curbside pickup. [2:22:32, 2:22:46]: So if you have an order online with Best Buy, you can actually drive to the facility and they can bring your product out to you while you wait in your car. So really seeing that evolution of the kind of the online e-commerce part of the business. [2:22:46, 2:23:06]: Another building in Orlando. Other uses that we attract would include high-tech companies, which are high-paying jobs, but also movie studios. I think that's a dynamic part of the Atlanta business that we would attract these studios to these buildings. Other examples in our portfolio would include Norwegian. [2:23:06, 2:23:26]: Cruise lines in Tampa, where they've taken a building and they've can they've they've replicated the stages from the different cruise ships so that all the performers train in these facilities before getting on the cruise ships. Also, Universal Studios for their theme park in Orlando has a full building that they do similar type of training and and [2:23:26, 2:23:46]: And storage of their of their performance. Benefit here is really local job creation. Two to three thousand jobs we project will be created not only by the companies that are located here, but also with construction. We will partner with the city staff and EDC. We've already spoken with Alan Peterson a couple. [2:23:46, 2:23:51]: times on setting up a program with the city to target local job growth. [2:23:52, 2:23:52]: Um [2:23:53, 2:24:13]: Uh this is a great let's just hold on this one for a second. This is a great slide. It's a building in Charlotte, just south of the airport, which has proximity to some other residential areas. Um the first phase uh was was rezoned and approved, and then future phases have been unanimously approved by city council and supported by the residents. It's a little [2:24:13, 2:24:33]: Ironic for us is our product type is usually embraced by the local communities and cities in lieu of maybe a heavy commercial with gas stations and hotels, also in lieu of of warehousing. This is a business park and this isn't a great example of the uh the above code minimum uh landscaping. [2:24:33, 2:24:53]: The quality of the buildings and the quality of the companies you're going to get. So a little surprised on staff recommendation because again, most cities are embracing and asking us, including in other Atlanta cities, to come to their municipalities and develop our buildings. We did conduct the three community meetings. The final meeting did have our [2:24:53, 2:24:55]: traffic consultant. If you go back to that other slide, please. [2:24:57, 2:25:17]: Thank you. Just leave it there for a second. Included our traffic consultant, ND5, they're on the call. I think to demonstrate our commitment, we did propose the five additional conditions. And those were really to address the community concerns, the traffic solutions that Michelle mentioned, more restrictive landscaping and screening for the residential areas. [2:25:17, 2:25:37]: Areas. And I think most importantly, our offer to solve the drivetime access issue through the neighborhood, we would provide that access and actually construct that. Um, the support from the uh new owner to the south also is very important. Real quick on the site plan, I think it's worth mentioning our site plan uh [2:25:36, 2:25:54]: 52% of the overall site is impervious, so it's left either in its natural landscape condition or has additional landscaping planted. So that's well above code minimum to have 52% of the overall acreage undeveloped. Increased screening for the residential. [2:25:55, 2:26:00]: Um last thing I want to touch on is real quick on the traffic. [2:26:00, 2:26:00]: Uh [2:26:01, 2:26:21]: As M. Michelle Encher uh mentioned, the the current zoning allows for uh six times a vehicle generation. Um an example would be if we had 10 cars were or vehicles were generated uh to a traffic signal, uh the the current zoning would would produce 60 vehicles compared to our 10. Um [2:26:21, 2:26:41]: I think it's also important to note from the traffic study that of the car or the vehicles leaving and arriving in our park, there are two cars for every truck. So we have two times the number of cars that are really the office and showroom and pharmaceutical uses parking for every truck. And every truck, the trucks [2:26:41, 2:27:01]: Tend to be uh panel trucks. That could be UPS, FedEx. There will be semis, but that's much more, that's much less than the overall auto traffic. Um, the peak hour traffic and MV5 is on the call. This was a stat they threw out to the community last week. Um, at peak hours, the peak hourly truck traffic is going to be. [2:27:01, 2:27:21]: 15 to 20 trucks. And that's in and out. So if you look at just coming into the site, that's eight to 10 trucks per hour. That's like one every five minutes. Again, compared to the heavy commercial use of six times that traffic. Staff did mention that the intersection levels were going to be at level [2:27:21, 2:27:41]: ENF with our development. I think it's very important to note those are currently level ENF service levels and that our development does not does not uh lower any intersections ratings because we they're they're maintained, they're not great, they're ENF, but our development does not uh cause any lower ratings for. [2:27:41, 2:27:44]: for any of those intersections. And then lastly. [2:27:44, 2:28:01]: We will try to control the cut-through traffic right now going through Davidson Circle. Our traffic consultant believes that we can actually have a net no increase to trucks through Davidson Circle or maybe even with our traffic uh measures have a net reduction of trucks through the area. [2:28:01, 2:28:21]: In in closing, and I know we can um you know we can address any of your questions, um, you know, I just think we bring jobs uh to the community. Uh we're a long-term owner. We're going to develop just like this picture, a quality park environment and attract uh quality companies um to the area, and and we think that's a great fit. [2:28:21, 2:28:41]: fit for that visibility. When people leave and trucks leave our development, they're not going through the community. They're going to 675 and to 75. That's why we like this this location so much because of the the it the immediate interstate access. That's where the the vehicles are going to be going. And I think MV5 can be is here to [2:28:41, 2:28:44]: uh again address any other traffic concerns. [2:28:44, 2:28:45]: Thank you for your time. [2:28:45, 2:28:57]: No problem. Thank you, Ms. Battle and Mr. Coleman. Appreciate your presentation. Counselor, any before we open the public hearing, any questions you have for Ms. Battle or Mr. Coleman about their their presentation or any uh desires or concerns you may have. [2:29:00, 2:29:00]: Anybody? [2:29:03, 2:29:03]: Seeing none. [2:29:05, 2:29:25]: Okay, so what I need to do is open this up for public hearing. And so um once again, uh our attorneys will keep me straight on, I guess I would say. So I want to open up for uh so both the rezoning and the comprehensive plan amendment case, if I can a guy can do it both uh open both those up at the same time for [2:29:25, 2:29:26]: or the public hearing, is that correct? [2:29:27, 2:29:28]: Attorneys, that would work that way. [2:29:32, 2:29:52]: Yes, but for easiest but but easiest you want to just take one at a time so people know what you won't jump back and forth. That's what I just wanted to make sure. Okay, fine. Let's talk about the rezoni case then. Rizzoni case, public hearing. Any uh any public hearing, anybody for the rezoni case that was presented for for the city as well as from um uh the actual uh [2:29:52, 2:30:04]: a client here. And I and once again in reference to public, I I you I guess it'd be Ms. Ms. Holiday or IT or have to let folks in because I I cannot see that and I don't know that at this point. Need to have anything out there at all. [2:30:05, 2:30:07]: There are no raised hands, Mayor. [2:30:08, 2:30:09]: Okay. [2:30:09, 2:30:24]: So no raise hands. So otherwise for the public hearing, anything against in uh for the public hearing? Um in reference to the rezoning case. Any anybody out there uh for a public hearing uh for any comments against this this public hearing? [2:30:24, 2:30:25]: Anything at all. [2:30:27, 2:30:28]: No raise hands, I guess, for that as well. [2:30:30, 2:30:30]: No. [2:30:31, 2:30:36]: All right, well I will close that part of the public hearing then and open up for the comprehensive plan amendment. [2:30:36, 2:30:42]: And are there any comments from the public that are online? They have any comments about the public. [2:30:42, 2:30:45]: company has a planned amendment for the it all. [2:30:47, 2:30:48]: Anything at all for the public? [2:30:52, 2:31:04]: There are no raised hands in this platform. Let me check for Facebook, please. Let me get with our PIO. Hey Vanessa, this is Shayna Thornton, Public Information Officer. There are no feedback. There's no feedback on Facebook as well. [2:31:04, 2:31:05]: Thank you. [2:31:05, 2:31:09]: All right, so I'll I'll say it anyway. Captain has a plan of anything against it. [2:31:10, 2:31:15]: uh against that uh public uh uh comprehensive plan amendment uh at all. [2:31:16, 2:31:25]: They're for now against any any comments whatsoever. And it's my assumption from a previous comment, there's nothing online and nothing on the Facebook at all. Is that correct, ladies? [2:31:28, 2:31:29]: That's correct, Mayor. [2:31:29, 2:31:49]: Okay. So I'll close the okay, thank you. So I'll close the public hearing. Public hearing has been open and closed for both parts of this rezoning case and a comprehensive plan amendment. Now uh council, what are your thoughts or what are your questions? And I guess we probably need to take this also in in in phases as well. So rezoning case, uh for council. [2:31:49, 2:31:56]: consideration. Uh what do he desires? What's the motion to approve this or what's the motion for this? Approve it or disapprove it. [2:31:57, 2:31:58]: Helpful. [2:32:01, 2:32:07]: rezoning case RZ 2021 Net01. Miss Barber, go ahead please. [2:32:09, 2:32:11]: I don't have any questions. Um [2:32:12, 2:32:15]: It's a lot to take in. [2:32:15, 2:32:15]: Okay. [2:32:16, 2:32:20]: I I do like the fact that it's bringing jobs here. [2:32:21, 2:32:22]: Um but [2:32:23, 2:32:25]: I am concerned about [2:32:25, 2:32:26]: The traffic. [2:32:27, 2:32:30]: congestion for the residents who live in that area. [2:32:30, 2:32:32]: But they've already shown that they [2:32:33, 2:32:39]: put some measures or will take measures to help alleviate some of those traffic concerns. [2:32:40, 2:32:40]: Uh [2:32:41, 2:32:44]: I'll wait and just hear from the rest of our councilmates. [2:32:44, 2:32:49]: All right, any other council members have anything uh in reference to the rezoning case? Questions, concerns? [2:32:50, 2:32:51]: Yes, sir. [2:32:51, 2:32:52]: We'll write it, please. [2:32:53, 2:32:56]: I I I attended the public town hall meeting. [2:32:56, 2:32:58]: And we also had some [2:32:58, 2:32:59]: uh discussions. [2:33:00, 2:33:05]: And uh what it really came down to is you know speaking with the residents. [2:33:05, 2:33:12]: I mean, I did not I every resident that I talked to was vehemently, I mean, just vehemently opposed. [2:33:12, 2:33:15]: And they did not um they were not [2:33:15, 2:33:16]: There was no wiggle room. [2:33:17, 2:33:37]: Uh the suggestion was made, you know, what um what if we could get uh those cars that are driving through the North Bridge subdivision uh out of your subdivision and offer alternative route. They said they would rather have the tractor trailers continue to live drive through their neighborhood rather than uh have another warehouse. [2:33:37, 2:33:39]: right next to their neighborhood. It was [2:33:39, 2:33:42]: And I went out and talked to as many people [2:33:42, 2:33:45]: As I could, I was contacted by numerous other [2:33:46, 2:33:48]: uh residence just to see [2:33:49, 2:33:51]: What the feel was and [2:33:51, 2:33:52]: It without [2:33:52, 2:33:58]: fail, there was not one person in support, and everybody was vehemently opposed and [2:33:59, 2:34:06]: It was said, if you vote for this, sir, we just we just we we just gotta understand that uh [2:34:06, 2:34:09]: If if there's that much opposition in the community. [2:34:09, 2:34:11]: We we certainly [2:34:11, 2:34:14]: have to understand these residents have to live there. [2:34:15, 2:34:16]: And they have to be [2:34:16, 2:34:18]: Um, have to have some buy in to [2:34:19, 2:34:21]: Uh want to move forward with this project. [2:34:22, 2:34:23]: And just [2:34:23, 2:34:24]: Over the course of the last [2:34:25, 2:34:27]: Week and a half to two weeks. [2:34:27, 2:34:28]: Just um [2:34:28, 2:34:31]: Communication after communication where [2:34:31, 2:34:34]: The residents were just vehemently opposed. [2:34:34, 2:34:36]: In terms of uh having the trucks [2:34:37, 2:34:39]: uh come through that area and [2:34:39, 2:34:42]: Then that was the number one concern amongst the residents is that [2:34:42, 2:34:45]: You know, back in the day somebody did this to us. [2:34:46, 2:34:49]: They put this drive time facility behind our [2:34:49, 2:34:52]: uh neighborhood and y'all get ready to do it to us again. [2:34:53, 2:34:55]: No matter what was said. [2:34:55, 2:34:58]: Well, to say, well, this would bring a benefit or [2:34:58, 2:35:01]: You know, we might be able to get the trucks out of your neighborhood. [2:35:01, 2:35:02]: Excuse me. [2:35:02, 2:35:09]: But when the person said to me, listen, I'd rather have those trucks continue to come through my neighborhood rather than having another [2:35:09, 2:35:11]: uh warehouse development close to us. [2:35:12, 2:35:15]: I mean, what else do you say? You give'em a option that might be able to help. [2:35:16, 2:35:20]: And they say, nope, no, we'd just rather just have the trucks continue to come through our neighborhood. [2:35:20, 2:35:22]: Until something better comes along. [2:35:22, 2:35:23]: I think [2:35:23, 2:35:43]: Uh in the end for us, uh the LCI plan uh is a concrete plan. It's you know, there may be some too much intense development over there, but uh for the primetime property, uh I think the plan is solid in terms of the LCI drawing hotels, maybe uh potential meetings. [2:35:43, 2:35:47]: spaces and residential uh going over there. [2:35:47, 2:35:51]: But to go against that much uh opposition. [2:35:52, 2:35:52]: Which is [2:35:53, 2:35:55]: solidly united against the project. [2:35:55, 2:35:58]: You know, I couldn't do that in good conscience because. [2:35:58, 2:36:18]: the residents over there, they they just they just can't see it happening. And they count on us and they said to us, listen, you represent us. This is what we need to be done. And we do not want this. So how do I look back at those residents and say, you know, we're going to do it anyway. [2:36:18, 2:36:20]: Even though you said that you don't want it. [2:36:21, 2:36:22]: And um go for it. [2:36:22, 2:36:23]: And um [2:36:24, 2:36:26]: You know, some issues that come before us. [2:36:26, 2:36:27]: There's mixed. [2:36:29, 2:36:29]: Um [2:36:30, 2:36:31]: type of responses. [2:36:32, 2:36:36]: There was no mix on this particular one. And based on based on what they said. [2:36:36, 2:36:38]: All right, Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please, sir. [2:36:39, 2:36:41]: Thank you, Mayor. Um [2:36:42, 2:36:48]: I've had conversation with men of the residents that were especially in the last [2:36:48, 2:36:50]: Uh month or so [2:36:50, 2:36:55]: And I think the the impact is is so negative. [2:36:55, 2:36:58]: Uh, that I just just do not see how we can go forward. [2:36:59, 2:37:02]: I'm not gonna speak long on it, but I'm going to move [2:37:03, 2:37:04]: uh that we deny. [2:37:06, 2:37:10]: made a motion move to deny is there a second on that second I second. [2:37:10, 2:37:16]: Well Mayor Pro Tem second that if there's for any further discussion and if not all in favored motion, please indicate. [2:37:18, 2:37:26]: It looks like okay. So see now speaking on that. All right. And then also there's a copyright plan amendment case uh involving this as well. [2:37:26, 2:37:28]: And what's the motion on that? [2:37:29, 2:37:30]: Need a motion on that portion as well. [2:37:31, 2:37:32]: Motion to I move to deny. [2:37:32, 2:37:40]: Okay, uh mayor protest spoke up moved to deny uh council uh Gantt, council can't second that any further discussion. [2:37:40, 2:37:42]: And if not, all in favor, please indicate. [2:37:43, 2:38:01]: All right. So otherwise it's the unanimous decision on that. All right. Ms. Battle and Mr. Coleman, obviously the council decides to deny the request thus far for both cases. All right. Appreciate you being uh being present. Thank you. Thank you. [2:38:01, 2:38:02]: Thank you. [2:38:02, 2:38:07]: All right. Public hearing, bullet budget hearing, first reading. Uh Mr. Wiggins, please. [2:38:09, 2:38:29]: Yes, thank you, Mayor and Council. This is the first budget hearing for the proposed FY 2022 operation, operating budget. This proposed budget is intended to place the city of Stockbridge in the position of serving the citizens at the highest. [2:38:29, 2:38:36]: Level during 2022 and in the future. The revenue projections for FY 2022. [2:38:37, 2:38:40]: For the general fund is 17.4. [2:38:41, 2:38:45]: Our enterprise funds are coming in at twenty four point nine. [2:38:46, 2:38:48]: We have an increase of about four point seven [2:38:49, 2:38:53]: From twenty twenty one at twelve point seven. [2:38:55, 2:38:59]: This increase is uh mainly due to uh [2:39:01, 2:39:06]: The city trying to implement and start a new police department. [2:39:07, 2:39:13]: We do have salary increases, approximately about 200 some thousand. [2:39:13, 2:39:14]: Excuse me. [2:39:16, 2:39:35]: What's what's what's going on there? Yeah, we don't have any, I don't see any of this on the screen. Can some I mean we're talking and nobody can see what he's talking about for the public for the public. I'm sorry, this is this is a use this is a this is I just summarized uh the budget that was uh passed out. [2:39:36, 2:39:41]: Okay, I mean, do you have anything to show to the public so they can see? I mean, this is their money, so [2:39:42, 2:39:49]: Are you able to put your you're highlighting uh the the actual letter itself? Do you have that where you can put it up if that'll help be helpful? [2:39:49, 2:39:51]: Yeah, let me see if you can do that. [2:39:57, 2:39:58]: Let's see. [2:40:11, 2:40:19]: Do you see it? I'm sorry. Yeah, that's what you were highlighting. That doc document right there. We see something. What is in the 2022 budget? You just had it, sir. [2:40:20, 2:40:20]: Okay. [2:40:21, 2:40:23]: I'm trying to move it down to it. [2:40:26, 2:40:37]: Are you able to see that? Yeah, it is just uh, I mean, it's it's we can see it is uh I mean some miles away you can make it a little bigger there or or whatever the case may be, because part of it's cut off. [2:40:40, 2:40:41]: Can you maximize your screen? [2:40:42, 2:40:43]: Uh, let's see. [2:40:46, 2:40:48]: That's a little bigger, a little better. [2:40:48, 2:40:51]: No no sirve. Not not really. At this point. [2:40:54, 2:40:56]: It didn't change at all. Yeah. [2:40:56, 2:40:57]: No, right, it did. [2:40:58, 2:41:02]: your top toolbar at the very top of the screen. [2:41:02, 2:41:04]: Yes, where next to this. [2:41:04, 2:41:06]: You click click on that square. [2:41:10, 2:41:12]: That blue strip that's at the very top. [2:41:13, 2:41:13]: Oh screen. [2:41:27, 2:41:32]: Is this the only document that you had to show uh that tonight, uh Mr. Wiggins? It is. [2:41:34, 2:41:47]: All right. This is the only document. It's still showing small. Yeah, yeah, it's just it's not uh it's not improving. So go the go ahead and and uh do the best you can and continue on so we can move through with this as possible, best is possible. [2:41:49, 2:41:50]: Okay. [2:41:52, 2:41:54]: All right. Um [2:41:56, 2:42:02]: The budget coming the uh the 4.7 increase is uh due to the um new police department. [2:42:03, 2:42:04]: Um [2:42:05, 2:42:15]: Salary and benefit increases. And also we have the budget includes new positions, which will be 58 police, police officers. [2:42:17, 2:42:24]: Three uh positions in community development, one position in municipal court, and one in human resources. [2:42:24, 2:42:25]: Um [2:42:27, 2:42:28]: Revenue. [2:42:29, 2:42:38]: We're also gonna increase in this budget here, it's 4.7. That's due to the loss, fines, and forfeitures. [2:42:39, 2:42:41]: And as well as um [2:42:43, 2:42:47]: property test and and the rollback tests that we're gonna get for the police department. [2:42:48, 2:42:49]: Um [2:42:50, 2:42:52]: With the twenty twenty two [2:42:53, 2:42:54]: Budget proposed. [2:42:54, 2:43:11]: Uh staff is asking that city, the mayor and council uh review and this is the first hearing, so I'm asking you to review. We we are able to make changes all the way up to the last uh hearing. [2:43:14, 2:43:20]: Is there anything else, John, that you want to no, that's that's it. All right, council. What kind of questions do you have for Mr. Wiggins right now? [2:43:22, 2:43:24]: Questions, concerns that you may have. [2:43:24, 2:43:25]: Yes. [2:43:25, 2:43:27]: Go right right here, please. [2:43:27, 2:43:30]: Uh initially we had talked to Mr. Knighton. [2:43:30, 2:43:33]: Абата компрегенсив бютифікація. [2:43:33, 2:43:37]: and uh redevelopment plan for North Henry Boulevard. [2:43:38, 2:43:40]: That was supposed to be a hundred thousand dollars. [2:43:41, 2:43:44]: uh allocated we had discussed it in last year's budget. [2:43:45, 2:43:48]: I thought it was in there. I think Mr Knighton said that we could [2:43:48, 2:43:51]: We had the money to actually do it this year, but [2:43:51, 2:43:52]: That's something that uh [2:43:53, 2:43:54]: We've often desired to have [2:43:55, 2:43:57]: A a comprehensive plan as we [2:43:57, 2:43:59]: Come forward with the amphitheater. [2:43:59, 2:44:02]: Uh I hear it so many times. What are you guys gonna do? [2:44:02, 2:44:05]: About the appearance of North Henry Boulevard. [2:44:05, 2:44:06]: Where as um [2:44:06, 2:44:09]: The proposal again was a hundred thousand dollars. [2:44:10, 2:44:11]: For a comprehensive [2:44:11, 2:44:14]: design and beautification plan. [2:44:14, 2:44:17]: uh for North Henry Boulevard. Is that included? [2:44:17, 2:44:19]: uh in this uh budget, Mr. Wickets. [2:44:21, 2:44:31]: I'm not aware of um that being included. Um I will have to maybe revert to public works. Um [2:44:32, 2:44:35]: Maybe Mr. Nighting had mentioned it to him, but I I [2:44:35, 2:44:37]: Overall I d I don't remember. [2:44:37, 2:44:39]: of that being put into the budget. [2:44:39, 2:44:41]: Okay, is Mr Mr. Aaron on the call? [2:44:42, 2:44:48]: He he should be on the call. Mr. Wet. Yes, Pro Cam, I'm on the call. Could could you speak to that? [2:44:49, 2:45:00]: I'm not aware of that. Mr. Knighton hadn't mentioned that to me, but one of the concerns we had talked about beautification along North Henry is that there is really no right-of-way on North Henry. [2:45:01, 2:45:05]: For any beautification, significant beautification projects. [2:45:05, 2:45:07]: 'Cause the majority of the right of ways. [2:45:07, 2:45:10]: Is very tight on that road and you have to get G dot approval. [2:45:11, 2:45:17]: And but he never mentioned anything about budgeting for beautification plan for North Henry. [2:45:18, 2:45:22]: Well, the the two areas that I could think of right offhand are right by the water tower. [2:45:23, 2:45:25]: on that heel that has nothing on it. [2:45:25, 2:45:26]: And uh [2:45:27, 2:45:29]: right in front of Walmart uh on that corner. [2:45:30, 2:45:31]: And then um [2:45:32, 2:45:33]: The the vacant lot. [2:45:34, 2:45:37]: Right next to uh what used to be the old Denny's. [2:45:38, 2:45:41]: uh in that area. So there there's some areas that we can deal with. [2:45:42, 2:45:43]: But the city has [2:45:43, 2:45:47]: Every citizen that I talked to said, what do you get? I know the amphitheatre is beautiful. [2:45:47, 2:45:50]: What are you all gonna do about the appearance? [2:45:50, 2:45:54]: on North Henry Boulevard. This is inclusive of the downtown area. [2:45:55, 2:45:58]: Uh, that whole corridor coming through the main street area. [2:45:58, 2:45:59]: Uh to [2:45:59, 2:46:00]: A rock quarry. [2:46:01, 2:46:02]: All the way to [2:46:02, 2:46:07]: uh where the Walmart is and even uh to the city limits where the Krispy Kreme is. [2:46:08, 2:46:11]: Uh, this is something that I'm calling on this council to [2:46:11, 2:46:13]: take a lead in and say [2:46:14, 2:46:16]: We are going to make a difference. [2:46:17, 2:46:21]: Because we've already hired an additional code enforcement officer to be able to [2:46:21, 2:46:22]: мов [2:46:23, 2:46:26]: Uh, uncompliant businesses in the right direction. [2:46:26, 2:46:31]: And we developed we bought another we bought a street sweeper, we bought another street sweeper. [2:46:31, 2:46:33]: We have a litter team out there. [2:46:34, 2:46:36]: Uh, we have contractors cutting the right of way. [2:46:36, 2:46:38]: But the beautification is something [2:46:39, 2:46:40]: That is missing is striking. [2:46:41, 2:46:42]: Uh, it but the [2:46:42, 2:46:44]: But I'm certainly calling on the council to [2:46:45, 2:46:46]: Um, have this be [2:46:46, 2:46:52]: A budgetary issue because we had discussed it previously, and somehow it was not in last year's budget. [2:46:55, 2:47:03]: So that's obviously something we need to look at and how we can fit that in if possible, how we make it fit in this aspect. So some additional work needs to be done. Any other comments from the council? [2:47:05, 2:47:10]: I certainly support the suggestion of Mayor Pro Tem Alexander. [2:47:11, 2:47:14]: Okay. Thank you for that. Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. [2:47:14, 2:47:16]: Well, I I I I support that as well. [2:47:17, 2:47:20]: Uh Mayor, let me ask you a question first. [2:47:20, 2:47:21]: Um uh [2:47:22, 2:47:29]: Uh motions, even though this is the first budget reading, uh motions being accepted uh tonight. [2:47:30, 2:47:50]: Well, I mean, the let me let me say it this way. I mean, we made you made suggestions, got a simple consensus. We'll take a look at obviously this uh this uh amount of beaufication with North Henry Boulevard, figure out how we can fit that in there and have to present that at the next reading. Um, and now I I would imagine I don't know if we need a motion for that or if this aspect of [2:47:50, 2:47:55]: probably we have to double check with attorneys if that's more appropriate or not. But uh [2:47:55, 2:48:00]: It's a simple request I would think that we would we honestly take a look at and see what we can do. It's gotta come back to the council anyway. [2:48:01, 2:48:08]: in this aspect so I mean it's gotta come back to you. I mean thank you for that and and I I I thought the answer would be yes but [2:48:08, 2:48:10]: What I like to do and take the opportunity [2:48:11, 2:48:12]: I have um [2:48:14, 2:48:19]: Annually, I usually write up my position on the overall budget. [2:48:20, 2:48:23]: And I hadn't had a whole lot of time to go all the way through it. [2:48:24, 2:48:31]: Uh but I I do have a write-up, and if you would allow me for at least um three or four minutes. [2:48:31, 2:48:33]: To re um [2:48:34, 2:48:40]: some of my concerns into the record uh for this uh first uh reading. [2:48:41, 2:48:44]: And and I'm going back to the police department and [2:48:45, 2:49:05]: you know i i i i even though i didn't vote that way i i i was pretty much in favor of tabling that because i wanted sort of to discuss some things with the chief offline uh but i'm gonna have to now just go i'm just gonna go ahead and read some of my concerns in. Okay before you before as you read them before you read I mean as you read them [2:49:05, 2:49:13]: I would imagine that we'll be able to get copies of that so we can follow up on what we the adjustments need to be made before we bring it back for the second reading. [2:49:13, 2:49:33]: Yes, yes. That's that's one of the reasons why I want to read it into the record. And I sort of take it slow, but I I did not have time to uh share this with any of the council members because of the uh election. And I guess you can tell my voice is sort of shot, but if you will um indulge me to to read some of [2:49:33, 2:49:47]: this and I will take it a little slow, Madam Clerk, if you needed to uh record uh what I'm saying, but I will submit this. Okay. First I'm going to start with the uh police department uh with the job descriptions. [2:49:47, 2:49:50]: Uh the proposed budget for the city staff has the new [2:49:51, 2:49:53]: Job descriptions included. [2:49:53, 2:49:54]: As it should be. [2:49:55, 2:49:57]: All of the police departments. [2:49:58, 2:50:01]: And positions are new positions. [2:50:02, 2:50:05]: But there are only two job descriptions attached. [2:50:06, 2:50:09]: The council need to see and approve all job descriptions. [2:50:09, 2:50:11]: For the police department as well. [2:50:12, 2:50:14]: We cannot approve. [2:50:15, 2:50:18]: pay and class or organization chart. [2:50:18, 2:50:20]: Without knowing [2:50:20, 2:50:22]: What the job descriptions are. [2:50:23, 2:50:27]: And uh when we was on that agenda item earlier, that's why I saw the mention [2:50:27, 2:50:30]: There are required. [2:50:31, 2:50:31]: Um [2:50:32, 2:50:36]: protocol in municipal government and and that's one of those. [2:50:36, 2:50:48]: Um then one of my questions is that a salary analysis of command sal staff salaries that include uh McDonough and other uh comparative. [2:50:48, 2:50:50]: Comparable cities. [2:50:50, 2:50:52]: And we just need to make sure. [2:50:52, 2:50:54]: That we are in line. [2:50:54, 2:50:57]: Um while also being competitive. [2:50:57, 2:51:00]: And I do understand that we have to be [2:51:00, 2:51:03]: uh competitive to attract the the best officer. [2:51:04, 2:51:05]: Excuse me. [2:51:06, 2:51:08]: Public works vehicles. [2:51:10, 2:51:16]: There have been great improvements in the cities right away, and I want to commend the public work staff for their efforts. [2:51:16, 2:51:22]: The parks are great access to our community and I look forward to moving forward with. [2:51:23, 2:51:24]: The parks [2:51:24, 2:51:26]: Master plan. [2:51:26, 2:51:30]: So let me uh underline that. I know we talked about this earlier. [2:51:31, 2:51:31]: Um [2:51:32, 2:51:35]: One of the things I like to see is a park. [2:51:36, 2:51:38]: In the uh northern section. [2:51:39, 2:51:39]: Yeah. [2:51:41, 2:51:53]: I'm trying to get my directions together, but um there is no park other than Monument Park, say in the uh Eagles Landing uh community. So within the parks. [2:51:53, 2:51:56]: Master plan to enhance the quality of life. [2:51:57, 2:51:57]: Um [2:51:58, 2:52:01]: for all improvements in the city. So I I'd just like to sort of see that. [2:52:02, 2:52:03]: And and [2:52:04, 2:52:06]: Uh Madam Clerk. [2:52:06, 2:52:10]: Am I reading at a speed where we can we can capture this? [2:52:15, 2:52:16]: Madam Clerk. [2:52:18, 2:52:19]: Yes, I'm I'm following you. [2:52:20, 2:52:21]: Okay, thank you. [2:52:21, 2:52:22]: Um [2:52:22, 2:52:23]: Water [2:52:24, 2:52:28]: sewer and storm water department continues to make [2:52:28, 2:52:30]: infrastructure improvements in the city. [2:52:31, 2:52:36]: And many of those projects are being reimbursed by APA funds, which is great. [2:52:37, 2:52:39]: But I like to see [2:52:39, 2:52:43]: as it relates to city vehicles. And we sort of talked about this too. [2:52:44, 2:52:48]: a vehicle replacement plan and policy. [2:52:49, 2:52:51]: Submitted and attached. [2:52:51, 2:52:53]: to the budget annually. [2:52:55, 2:52:56]: Human resources [2:53:01, 2:53:05]: Let me go back and finish out um public works. [2:53:08, 2:53:11]: Having this background and information [2:53:11, 2:53:14]: Will assist us in making decisions. [2:53:14, 2:53:16]: On improving [2:53:16, 2:53:17]: And funding [2:53:18, 2:53:20]: Vio VHOS request. [2:53:20, 2:53:21]: In the budget. [2:53:22, 2:53:24]: I would like to recommend all [2:53:25, 2:53:30]: FY twenty twenty two request be contingent upon receiving [2:53:30, 2:53:31]: And approving. [2:53:32, 2:53:39]: The vehicle replacement plan and policy, and ask for council support on this recommendation. [2:53:39, 2:53:41]: human resources position. [2:53:42, 2:53:47]: During one of the uh budget retreats, the HR manager noted that the threshold [2:53:48, 2:53:51]: And HR was around one hundred employees. [2:53:51, 2:53:56]: The police department would take would take us over that threshold. [2:53:56, 2:54:00]: And this position is definitely going to be needed. [2:54:00, 2:54:03]: So because of the great majority of staffing at it. [2:54:04, 2:54:08]: Well that will be in the police department. I am recommending [2:54:08, 2:54:11]: This position be an H R [2:54:11, 2:54:18]: manager position under police services dedicated solely to [2:54:18, 2:54:19]: Um [2:54:20, 2:54:21]: To public safety employees. [2:54:22, 2:54:23]: And not [2:54:23, 2:54:27]: And not add that put that burden on our current [2:54:28, 2:54:29]: HR department. [2:54:30, 2:54:32]: Um Чітрем, а но. [2:54:32, 2:54:35]: In in our discussion and at your town hall. [2:54:35, 2:54:36]: You mentioned [2:54:36, 2:54:37]: That there [2:54:37, 2:54:38]: Well [2:54:39, 2:54:44]: um some mechanism within the part in your department that would take care of those duties. [2:54:44, 2:54:48]: So I I guess when I finish reading this, you may want to respond to that. [2:54:49, 2:54:49]: Um [2:54:50, 2:54:52]: She trim is going to need someone [2:54:52, 2:54:55]: experienced and dedicated [2:54:55, 2:54:58]: to onboard an a police department personnel. [2:54:59, 2:55:02]: having experience with public safety. [2:55:02, 2:55:06]: With public safety policies, procedure and training. [2:55:07, 2:55:10]: It is important that we have someone with a minimum. [2:55:11, 2:55:13]: Of ten years of HR experience. [2:55:14, 2:55:22]: With public safety employees and have the job description and funding be amended to reflect this recommendation. [2:55:24, 2:55:26]: Therefore, I like to motion [2:55:27, 2:55:28]: To a man. [2:55:28, 2:55:31]: The HR coordinator position. [2:55:31, 2:55:34]: Uh an HR manager. [2:55:34, 2:55:36]: to public services [2:55:36, 2:55:38]: And place under the police department. [2:55:39, 2:55:40]: With a minimum [2:55:40, 2:55:43]: Of ten years of public safety. [2:55:43, 2:55:48]: HR experience and all associated funding. [2:55:49, 2:55:52]: So madam clerk, do I need to restate the motion? [2:55:55, 2:56:00]: If you would please read beginning with with your motion, if you don't mind. [2:56:01, 2:56:03]: I've moved to a min. [2:56:03, 2:56:06]: The HR Coordinator position. [2:56:07, 2:56:07]: To [2:56:08, 2:56:09]: HR manager. [2:56:09, 2:56:11]: To publish services. [2:56:12, 2:56:14]: And placed under the police department. [2:56:14, 2:56:16]: With a minimum [2:56:16, 2:56:19]: Of ten years of public safety. [2:56:19, 2:56:21]: HR experience. [2:56:21, 2:56:24]: And all associated funding. [2:56:26, 2:56:46]: And I will uh continue to this process in which this is something that I do annually. And I will forward uh what I just read to to our council members. Uh, because of the election and some other thing, I just did not have time uh to forward this over to any of the council members. And and this is just a [2:56:46, 2:56:53]: Rough draft of some of the recommendations that I would be making uh going forward. And this being um [2:56:53, 2:56:55]: The first reading. [2:56:55, 2:56:58]: But I do uh counsel and and Madam Clerk. [2:56:58, 2:57:01]: Like to put that motion uh on the table for tonight. [2:57:03, 2:57:04]: Is there a second to the motion? [2:57:06, 2:57:15]: Ms. Barber seconds that motion. So uh any further discussion from the council and or even HR or the legal in this aspect as well. [2:57:17, 2:57:18]: Any comments? [2:57:18, 2:57:20]: Discussion. [2:57:20, 2:57:30]: Well Mayor, I uh I mean it sounds good, but I would prefer to hear from HR and I would prefer to hear from what you know, what the normal is. [2:57:30, 2:57:33]: I get it. I just want to make sure whether or not [2:57:33, 2:57:38]: this is normal or not. I I don't know. I'm not a HR specialist. I don't know. [2:57:38, 2:57:40]: If they're used to having [2:57:40, 2:57:42]: Fifty people or [2:57:42, 2:57:48]: Or a hundred people or how many people can one HR department ha handle and [2:57:48, 2:57:52]: What is a usual employee? I I I don't know. So [2:57:52, 2:57:53]: It sounds good. [2:57:53, 2:57:55]: I just think that we should [2:57:55, 2:57:56]: You know. [2:57:57, 2:57:58]: Hear from someone. [2:57:59, 2:58:05]: Um in regards to the structure of of the suggestion of Councilman Thomas, I I [2:58:07, 2:58:13]: I don't know. Like who's to say that this is normal or not normal? [2:58:13, 2:58:16]: Or that we shouldn't do it, or no. [2:58:17, 2:58:22]: You know, normally what if Miss Willer has worked at other cities and she's represent [2:58:22, 2:58:25]: You know, she's half the police department in addition to [2:58:25, 2:58:28]: Our city house that I think she worked in Riverdale or or wherever. [2:58:29, 2:58:30]: I don't know. [2:58:30, 2:58:33]: So I don't want to just vote [2:58:33, 2:58:37]: It sounds good, but I I need to hear from her. [2:58:38, 2:58:40]: And I wouldn't need to hear from [2:58:40, 2:58:45]: You know, w the no normal operating structures and procedures for this. [2:58:45, 2:58:47]: Ms. Wheeler, go ahead, please. [2:58:48, 2:58:51]: Well, normally you would not have an HR. [2:58:51, 2:58:54]: Manager in the police department of this size. [2:58:55, 2:59:00]: At the city of Riverdale was a hundred and twenty-five, roughly almost a hundred and twenty-five employees when I was there. [2:59:01, 2:59:03]: And I was the sole HR manager there. [2:59:04, 2:59:05]: Working with police. [2:59:06, 2:59:09]: In the police department, they normally have a commander. [2:59:09, 2:59:10]: Um [2:59:11, 2:59:14]: Who works with the chief of police? [2:59:14, 2:59:16]: In the hiring [2:59:16, 2:59:20]: Of their uh police officers and command staff. [2:59:21, 2:59:29]: And HR works with the chief of police to advertise for those positions, and their staff there would hire. [2:59:29, 2:59:32]: Along with the command staff of the department. [2:59:33, 2:59:35]: So bringing in um [2:59:35, 2:59:38]: An HR manager into an operation like that when [2:59:38, 2:59:40]: He will already have individuals. [2:59:41, 2:59:44]: Who will be assisting in the recruitment? [2:59:44, 2:59:49]: of police officers is all that is necessary in the police uh department. [2:59:51, 2:59:54]: Okay. Chief Framer and I have spoken to that. [2:59:54, 2:59:55]: Um [2:59:55, 3:00:02]: with the assist what assistance will be given in his department to HR and and how that will be set up. [3:00:03, 3:00:09]: Okay. Well n thank you for answering that. So in Riverdale you had about a hundred and twenty police officers. [3:00:09, 3:00:18]: No, we had roughly twenty, was roughly on the about twenty-five, twenty-eight, I believe. I'm not really certain now, because we had fire. [3:00:19, 3:00:21]: А файр департ алсо. [3:00:21, 3:00:26]: And you handle it both fire and police. Fire and police. [3:00:27, 3:00:30]: Well, in that if that's the case and it's normal for [3:00:31, 3:00:36]: The in most of your cities, that's the way it's set up. If you go to the city of Hampton. [3:00:36, 3:00:38]: Um the city of McDonough. [3:00:39, 3:00:42]: Um city of Morrow, any of those cities. [3:00:42, 3:00:44]: Their HR. [3:00:44, 3:00:45]: Handles. [3:00:46, 3:00:47]: The staffing [3:00:47, 3:00:50]: With the police department for all of the cities. [3:00:50, 3:00:52]: There is no separate HR. [3:00:52, 3:00:57]: Thank you, Miss Willer. I tell you what, guys, I think we've spent enough money. [3:00:58, 3:00:58]: Really? [3:00:59, 3:01:03]: And I I don't see why we need to add additional staff. That is the fact. [3:01:04, 3:01:07]: You know, and Councilman Thomas, I respect your [3:01:07, 3:01:09]: Your suggestion. It sounded good. [3:01:10, 3:01:16]: But when looking at the facts of of what other cities do as well as what Ms. Willer is used to. [3:01:16, 3:01:20]: then I would totally be against that. I don't need to spend another dime. [3:01:23, 3:01:24]: All right, uh [3:01:25, 3:01:29]: Uh Mr. Thomas, stand by for a second. Stand by. Chief Tramor. [3:01:30, 3:01:35]: Yeah, uh Mayor, I I was gonna ask the chief, and I and I know he spoke of this at his uh town hall. [3:01:36, 3:01:36]: Um [3:01:37, 3:01:42]: someone in his department that would take care of those duties. [3:01:42, 3:01:53]: Um maybe maybe you were going to ask me or maybe you're going to ask me. No, I was going to ask him that. That's exactly what I was going to do. Okay. That's exactly so T Tramor, I I need the response, sir. [3:01:54, 3:01:56]: Yes, sir. And typically [3:01:57, 3:02:01]: The police department, in my experience, does not have its own HR representative. [3:02:02, 3:02:12]: Um there is an HR coordinator. Uh my previous employment we had an HR coordinator that was assigned to the police department, but still under the umbrella of human resources. [3:02:12, 3:02:15]: They worked inside the police department with [3:02:16, 3:02:20]: Department to help facilitate the employment processes in various different HR functions. [3:02:21, 3:02:24]: But again, they were uh part of the human resources team. [3:02:25, 3:02:32]: And not necessarily the police department, not to say that doesn't work. I I I will say that in our organizational chart, which we'll talk about a little bit later. [3:02:32, 3:02:35]: Uh we do have a position for a background recruitment officer. [3:02:35, 3:02:39]: An officer is assigned specifically with um [3:02:40, 3:02:47]: recruiting and uh interviewing, onboarding, hiring new employees into the police department. [3:02:47, 3:02:57]: That person will work very closely with either the human resources coordinator, the human resources manager to ensure that the city's HR processes are adhered to. [3:02:57, 3:03:07]: uh but also that the police department's um uh processes for hiring, which tend to be more stringent than the city's processes just because of the public safety sensitive position. [3:03:07, 3:03:19]: that um uh they will be assigned to do that. And to Miss Wheeler's point, uh there will be a commander overseeing that division. So they ultimately will have responsibility to make sure that those processes are being followed. [3:03:20, 3:03:23]: And um that's that's essentially how we're aligned right now. [3:03:25, 3:03:28]: Okay, Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. Yeah, I I like to um [3:03:29, 3:03:32]: Amend or modify my motion, if I may. [3:03:32, 3:03:33]: Go right ahead. [3:03:34, 3:03:38]: Uh Madam Clerk, my my motion the amended [3:03:38, 3:03:38]: Um [3:03:39, 3:03:40]: version of this motion. [3:03:41, 3:03:46]: Um is to amend the HR coordinator position. [3:03:47, 3:03:48]: Two HR. [3:03:50, 3:03:53]: With a minimum of ten years. [3:03:53, 3:03:55]: A public safety. [3:03:56, 3:03:57]: HR experience. [3:03:58, 3:04:05]: And all associated funding, because as uh the chief just mentioned, and even as Mrs. Wheeler just mentioned. [3:04:06, 3:04:08]: You're going to need someone. [3:04:08, 3:04:10]: Uh in that position. [3:04:10, 3:04:18]: um that that have this uh qualification to make sure that the police department is is going forward. So [3:04:18, 3:04:20]: Uh Mayor, that is the motion. [3:04:21, 3:04:22]: And um [3:04:22, 3:04:26]: I I I request a a second and moving forward on the motion. [3:04:27, 3:04:27]: Is there a second? [3:04:29, 3:04:30]: Is there a second? [3:04:33, 3:04:37]: Seems there was no second. Okay. Oh, Miss Barber, you second this motion now. Is that right? [3:04:39, 3:04:40]: All right. [3:04:41, 3:04:43]: All right, any more f any further discussion? [3:04:45, 3:04:54]: Okay, I'll I wanna I wanna hear from Chi Tramer one more time. All right. Does this fit into what your plans are for the police department? Would this is this? [3:04:54, 3:04:55]: What you had in mind? [3:04:59, 3:05:00]: Or honestly [3:05:00, 3:05:10]: Based on the size of our department, um starting out there around, you know, less than sixty employees. Um I honestly I don't believe that it's fully necessary to have [3:05:10, 3:05:15]: full time HR position within the department because we have a position, a sworn position. [3:05:15, 3:05:18]: or a background and recruitment investigator who will be responsible. [3:05:19, 3:05:20]: For [3:05:20, 3:05:22]: basically posting jobs as they become available. [3:05:23, 3:05:27]: Uh, to make sure that the officers are adhering to all of our screening uh processes. [3:05:27, 3:05:36]: And they essentially will be telling HR who it is that we're hiring. We'll have to work through HR to do the city processes that are required for all employees. [3:05:36, 3:05:41]: But essentially this position will be uh responsible for the vast majority. [3:05:41, 3:05:43]: of the um [3:05:43, 3:05:57]: uh recruitment and background functions within the department. Certainly I think it would be a benefit uh to Ms. Wheeler and her team to have an HR position, and that position honestly probably should [3:05:57, 3:06:03]: um uh or will be more realistically uh very involved in assisting the police department. [3:06:04, 3:06:08]: uh with various HR functions, but um I think that [3:06:08, 3:06:16]: Um it's it's just not typical for a department of our size and scope to have that position within within the organization. [3:06:17, 3:06:25]: Mayor, let me I I think it's a misunderstanding, Mayor, if I may. Yeah, this third time, Mr. Thomas. Go ahead. Okay. Um [3:06:26, 3:06:28]: Excuse me, the motion. [3:06:29, 3:06:33]: Is not suggesting that this position [3:06:34, 3:06:36]: be in the police department. [3:06:37, 3:06:38]: Excuse me. [3:06:39, 3:06:43]: This position is already being proposed. [3:06:43, 3:06:45]: In a jar. [3:06:45, 3:06:47]: Let me be clear with that. [3:06:47, 3:06:49]: My motion does not [3:06:50, 3:06:52]: Indicate that this position will be [3:06:52, 3:06:55]: under or in the police department. [3:06:56, 3:06:57]: Диспозицін [3:06:58, 3:07:00]: Is already being proposed. [3:07:00, 3:07:03]: uh under the h structure [3:07:04, 3:07:06]: What I am suggesting and requiring is that [3:07:07, 3:07:08]: The level [3:07:08, 3:07:10]: Of qualification. [3:07:11, 3:07:14]: uh be such a a minimum of ten years. [3:07:15, 3:07:16]: O of experience. [3:07:16, 3:07:18]: So that's the difference. So be clear. [3:07:19, 3:07:22]: It is not an HR position. [3:07:22, 3:07:24]: In the Polish department. [3:07:26, 3:07:41]: Okay, so for my clarification, this is for the existing HR position that is recommended uh in the city budget, is more pointed to the qualifications being uh 10 years of experience. Is that what you're suggesting? [3:07:41, 3:07:42]: That is correct. [3:07:42, 3:07:44]: Okay, thank you. [3:07:45, 3:07:53]: Mayor. Uh yes, ma'am, go ahead, please. If if that's a suggestion and if it's already in our proposed budget, then there shouldn't be a vote. [3:07:54, 3:07:58]: Because it's in our proposed budget. If that's what we're gonna talk about. [3:07:58, 3:08:00]: But my concern is [3:08:00, 3:08:02]: Ви специфіки [3:08:03, 3:08:11]: giving a position and saying, okay, this is only for police when that's not what the normal standard procedures are. [3:08:11, 3:08:16]: For and and councilman Thomas is shaking his head. So m it's not only for police. [3:08:16, 3:08:17]: No. [3:08:17, 3:08:23]: Okay, all right. So maybe these are part of the standards and requirements of hiring that particular person. [3:08:24, 3:08:28]: But we are right now talking about the budget. [3:08:28, 3:08:29]: And [3:08:30, 3:08:41]: If we are talking about adding an additional person to HR, we're busting, I don't know if anybody knows, but we found conference rooms to put employees in. [3:08:41, 3:08:42]: We're bursting at the seams. [3:08:43, 3:08:48]: And location wise places to put additional people. [3:08:48, 3:08:49]: No. [3:08:49, 3:08:55]: I wanna make sure that we do this in a smart way and and Chief Tramer with all respect. [3:08:56, 3:09:00]: Um, you know, the council has to vote on your operational chart. [3:09:01, 3:09:03]: We have to tell you. [3:09:04, 3:09:08]: which way we're gonna agree that your operational chart is going to be. [3:09:09, 3:09:11]: And so in addition to that. [3:09:12, 3:09:16]: Um, we you know, we have to determine whether or not. [3:09:17, 3:09:18]: We are going to agree. [3:09:19, 3:09:20]: to those different positions. [3:09:21, 3:09:26]: And I appreciate, you know, your level of expertise and training on that. [3:09:26, 3:09:30]: But I also think that we should be very concerned. [3:09:30, 3:09:31]: On [3:09:32, 3:09:39]: what we're trying to do here. So if if someone is in your department that's recruiting, I can understand them doing back background checks. [3:09:40, 3:09:40]: But [3:09:41, 3:09:44]: I don't think it's your job to say who we hire. [3:09:44, 3:09:47]: I think it's the job of HR to do a panel. [3:09:48, 3:09:52]: And so I think that if the panel includes you, then great. [3:09:53, 3:09:56]: But I also think that we need to be smart. [3:09:57, 3:10:04]: about the way we handle this and we need to make, you know, we don't have to reinvent the wheel is what I'm saying. [3:10:04, 3:10:08]: And I appreciate Councilman Thomas bringing those suggestions and actually looking [3:10:09, 3:10:15]: at the budget and saying, okay, these are things that we really need and we need to focus on that tenure experience and public safety. [3:10:15, 3:10:17]: But Miss Wheeler [3:10:18, 3:10:18]: Who is [3:10:19, 3:10:21]: Who is uh been a HR? [3:10:22, 3:10:27]: Uh in a h position for years and years and yers and years of experience. [3:10:27, 3:10:30]: has dealt with both public safety [3:10:30, 3:10:34]: First responder is fire departments, you name it. [3:10:35, 3:10:40]: So I'm going to rely on her expertise on which way we should go with that. [3:10:41, 3:10:54]: Period. That's what we do. We hire the people and we hire the experts and we ask them the questions and then we make educated, smart financial decisions on which way we're gonna go. [3:10:55, 3:11:03]: Mayor Ford, can I just sort of clear something up, Mayor Ford? Mr. Thomas, you've already spoken three times. Let me go to Mr. Blount here. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [3:11:04, 3:11:07]: Ma Mayor, um I would just like to say that [3:11:08, 3:11:10]: And I you know, I I agree with uh [3:11:11, 3:11:14]: You know, I don't want to to belittle anybody's concerns. [3:11:15, 3:11:18]: But when we talk about experience in public safety. [3:11:19, 3:11:21]: Miss Wheeler has just told us [3:11:22, 3:11:26]: And we've just we recognize that she's been in public, you know, dealing with public safety uh [3:11:27, 3:11:37]: uh for quite a while. So anybody that that is hired on for that position, I'm I'm assuming that she would she would be the one to do the hiring since she's over HR. [3:11:38, 3:11:40]: I think that she would be the pinnacle. [3:11:40, 3:11:44]: She would be the the pinnacle of of that position and [3:11:44, 3:11:49]: Whoever she see deems fit to fall up under her to assist her. [3:11:49, 3:11:55]: Um why are we putting you know, I don't think we we should be at a point of putting so much criteria on her higher. [3:11:55, 3:12:04]: Uh, other than letting her know we want the best qualified person for that position and trust that that she would bring in the best qualified person for that position. [3:12:04, 3:12:10]: Uh it would be great if she could find somebody that would have have the same experience as she does. [3:12:10, 3:12:13]: That that she has, but she has enough experience. [3:12:14, 3:12:16]: Work with public safety and fire. [3:12:17, 3:12:33]: for the position. And I think this as an overseer of that department, she would be able to help herself no matter who she hires and what direction she uh gives that person. So for us to sit here and put stipulations on her hire to say they need 10 years of experience, well you already got that and more. [3:12:33, 3:12:39]: in the person that's gonna be doing the hiring for the position that she's hiring for. So I mean, I don't understand uh [3:12:40, 3:12:43]: That in his to you know, totally I don't understand that, but [3:12:43, 3:12:49]: If it's the will of the council to do what they do and have at it. But I'm just saying that she is the person. [3:12:49, 3:12:54]: That has experience that the very experience that we're talking about right now. So why are we messing with [3:12:54, 3:13:04]: HR is hiring, I'm pretty sure we we have to believe it and have confidence, as we've done with other department heads, that they're gonna hire the person that's best suitable and qualified. [3:13:04, 3:13:07]: to assist them in the areas that needs to be assisted in. [3:13:08, 3:13:20]: All right, thank you for that. So we have a motion on the floor and we add a second. Okay. And uh right now, Miss Holiday, could you read the motion? Make sure we got this clear. We got it straight. Okay, let me go back. [3:13:20, 3:13:23]: So the motion was amended to um [3:13:25, 3:13:34]: To amend the HR coordinator position with a minimum of 10 years HR experience in public safety. [3:13:34, 3:13:35]: Experience. [3:13:36, 3:13:47]: Okay. That's the position. And and to be clear, that position is in the budget, right? That's already in the budget. It's not we this is already in this budget, right? So it's not like something we're suggesting. It's in the budget. [3:13:48, 3:14:02]: You're you're you're correct, uh, it's just that you have to look at if you're changing, you have to look at the cost. Right. The criteria, yeah. Cost and the criteria of the problem. [3:14:04, 3:14:10]: All right. On that note, uh motion is made been second. All have we had plenty of discussions. All in favor, motion, please indicate. [3:14:12, 3:14:14]: Oppose three opposed. [3:14:15, 3:14:16]: I've seen [3:14:16, 3:14:23]: Okay. And I'm staying because I feel like we should very we should go by what the expert, Miss Wheeler, would state. [3:14:23, 3:14:25]: Not not based on our opinion. [3:14:26, 3:14:30]: I would like it documented that my opposition [3:14:31, 3:14:43]: is that this would be uh Ms. Wheeler's hire for the experience that is required rather than the council says what experience they won't require. Because the very thing that we're asking for is the very thing we already have right now. [3:14:44, 3:14:44]: Right. [3:14:45, 3:14:57]: Good is documented 311. Motion passes. Okay, now so anyway, we're talking once again about the pub uh the first hearing of the of the budget. Any other comments about the budget before we open up for public comments? Yes, sir. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [3:14:59, 3:15:02]: Mayor, one of the things I would like this council to look at also. [3:15:02, 3:15:07]: um in in coordination with public works budget is to put a um [3:15:08, 3:15:28]: uh find funding that we could put in for contingency, uh infrastructure contingency funding uh that we would we would uh put in every year. Uh when you talk about small jobs as far as sidewalks, because when we did the study on streets, we also asked for a study to be done on sidewalks. And uh that never [3:15:28, 3:15:43]: Never did I I haven't seen it. I never did come to council on the on the uh sidewalks uh in a different community. So Mr. Mr. Aaron, if you know about it, I mean you can jump in in in a minute. But I would like to see a contingency plan put in place. [3:15:43, 3:15:45]: in those areas that need [3:15:45, 3:16:05]: uh that would call the city for sidewalks and once those funds gone for the year they're just gone for the year but we definitely need to start funding area uh have some contingency funding for infrastructure when it comes to sidewalks because those are i'm pretty sure this council hears quite a bit of that um you know from the from the community uh mr aaron if you [3:16:05, 3:16:19]: You would is there anything that's in in your budget that every year or is that something that's there that that that uh citizens can utilize when it comes to repairing their sidewalks uh versus putting something in the budget now? [3:16:20, 3:16:28]: Uh Councilman Blount, the public works department proposed$150,000 in the 2022 budget for sidewalk. [3:16:28, 3:16:48]: Maintenance and improvement. We've also uh had a solicitation for an on-call vendor to make those improvements. The program will be similar to what the L Meg is. We'll get together a list of sidewalks and neighborhoods, subdivisions, and along streets and thoroughfares, and then we'll present those to the vendor. [3:16:48, 3:17:00]: and then they'll go out and make repairs as required. So there is money in the FY22 budget for sidewalk maintenance. And Ms. Miller will be bringing for council approval, I guess, at the work session. [3:17:01, 3:17:03]: For the uh sidewalk repair vendor. [3:17:03, 3:17:23]: Okay, uh Mr. Aaron, while you're on here, um mayor, if you will, if I could do a point. Um with what with that budget, um, with the sidewalks, because when you guys did the L Meg, when the LMEG study went uh came forward, we we were asked at the same time doing another course of studying at the [3:17:23, 3:17:43]: sidewalls be included. That never did happen. And I guess in between now and and as soon as you can, uh if you could show us how you would determine, because we know the aesthetics over safety. Safety is is more important than aesthetics. You know, you can have a few cracks, but you can't have the off groove [3:17:43, 3:17:50]: moving and all of that asidewalk. So if you could share that with this council in some kind of way or form, how uh it [3:17:50, 3:18:04]: you know, with that happening, having$150,000 in there, whatever you deem is, how how that would be uh disseminated throughout the community. Uh is it in similar similar to the way we did the L Meg, or how how would that be given out? [3:18:04, 3:18:24]: Yes, sir. The sidewalks were evaluated and rated just as the roads were in the latest. The last update, I think it was in 2019. So we do have a process in place for evaluating the sidewalks. They have been identified. It's just a matter of preparing the list and counsel determining the quantity of sidewalks. [3:18:24, 3:18:38]: sidewalks they want to repair every year. Similar to what LMIG is like, we resurface five miles of roads a year. We'd have something maybe like 20, 30, 40, or 50,000 square yards or feet of sidewalk that we repair every year to court. [3:18:39, 3:18:41]: Coordinate with the [3:18:41, 3:18:46]: funding that we allocated in FY 2022 for sidewalk improvements. [3:18:46, 3:18:49]: Thank you. I guess we'll have to get get with you to figure out what those numbers mean. [3:18:49, 3:19:03]: Well, uh, I think I I have to forward it back to the mayor again for dissemination, but previously uh mayor and counsel were given a copy of the uh uh updated uh street and sidewalk assessment. [3:19:03, 3:19:04]: Okay, thank you. [3:19:05, 3:19:05]: Right. [3:19:07, 3:19:17]: I do that, sir, so we can distribute to everybody. I appreciate it, Mr. Aaron. Any other questions or reference to this first public hearing from your council? Any kind of questions or concerns you may have? Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. [3:19:17, 3:19:22]: Uh Mr. Aaron, can you respond to the vehicle replacement plan? [3:19:24, 3:19:32]: Yes, sir. We had drafted something previously we had reviewed with the city manager. I can go back and get that for you. [3:19:32, 3:19:37]: And I was submitted to the mayor for dissemination to uh counsel. [3:19:38, 3:19:39]: All right. [3:19:39, 3:19:46]: I appreciate that, sir. All right, sir. Appreciate that as well. Uh any other questions about the first reading in reference to budget. [3:19:48, 3:19:54]: Any other questions from the council? On that note, not seeing any other questions, I'll open up for a public hearing. [3:19:55, 3:20:06]: Is there anybody online from the on uh online there, uh ladies, Vanessa Holiday and or our public uh relations, our PIO four? [3:20:06, 3:20:09]: There are no raised hands here, Mayor. [3:20:09, 3:20:15]: Okay, so anybody four four of this uh any man four there's there's nothing noted on Facebook. [3:20:15, 3:20:22]: Okay. And so uh anything against uh or any com negative comments or what's on the [3:20:22, 3:20:30]: Budget right now, any public comments at all. And uh my assumption is that there is nothing for Miss Holliday that you see no raised hands, Mayor. [3:20:30, 3:20:34]: Oh okay, and also for the public relations, PL, you see nothing at all, right? [3:20:35, 3:20:36]: Not at this time, Mayor. [3:20:36, 3:20:39]: Okay, so I'll close that public hearing. [3:20:39, 3:20:44]: And we will make adjustments on a documentation that was mentioned earlier and we'll be able to [3:20:44, 3:20:47]: Have some updates uh for our second next public hearing. [3:20:47, 3:20:52]: On that uh which is November thirtieth. November thirtieth. What was it we are work session? [3:20:52, 3:20:54]: Okay, good. Thank you, man. [3:20:54, 3:21:14]: Uh appreciate that. Uh new business council number 10. Council consideration to approve the contract renewal. Department of Course Department requesting the renewal of a competitive solicited contract pursuant of in uh ITB number 16 RFPRFP 10121216 DRR for [3:21:14, 3:21:21]: American Tank Maintenance, LLC, full maintenance, full tank maintenance. Invitation to be at ITB number. [3:21:22, 3:21:26]: Okay, one six RFP one zero one two six DRR for full. [3:21:26, 3:21:37]: Service tank maintenance was approved by the council on April 9th, 2018 for an estimated not to succeed the amount of$614,190. [3:21:37, 3:21:46]: And uh over a 10-year period, the initial contract term of agreement was for one year, then 10 years, then one year renewal options. [3:21:47, 3:21:48]: All right, Mr. Aaron, please. [3:21:50, 3:21:58]: Well I don't I don't I'm not sure if Ms. Miller wants to speak first in reference to this item. Okay, Ms. Miller, you want go ahead, please. [3:21:58, 3:22:18]: Yes, good afternoon, Mayor and Council. As read into the record, this is a renewal for our tank, full service tank maintenance. I would like to include that the contract covers a uh turnkey tank maintenance program. It covers the annual local, state, and federal compliant inspections. [3:22:18, 3:22:38]: Ongoing maintenance, exterior and interior paint renovations, full service repairs, exterior pressure washing, logo design and application, chemical cleaning, mixing systems, fully contained lead abasements and emergency services. [3:22:38, 3:22:58]: As stated, it's a one-year contract with 10 one-year renewals. This is the third renewal. Basically, the Public Works has worked with this vendor and has determined that they are performing in accordance with the contracts, thereby requesting renewal of the contract. I also would like to add, based on the US Bureau of [3:22:58, 3:23:18]: Of labor statistics, paint maintenance from September 2020 has increased 4.8% right now in the market. That being said, the Public Works Department is requesting renewal, and the procurement department is also recommending renewal of the contract. [3:23:19, 3:23:19]: Okay. [3:23:20, 3:23:22]: Questions counsel, you may have in reference to this. [3:23:24, 3:23:25]: Uh Mr. [3:23:26, 3:23:27]: Go ahead, please. [3:23:28, 3:23:30]: Uh talk about the performance of this vendor. Have they [3:23:31, 3:23:36]: Uh of the uh what's what's your confidence in these? Uh I wanna hear it from you directly. [3:23:36, 3:23:39]: In terms of the performance of the vendor and [3:23:39, 3:23:41]: Uh any all alternatives? [3:23:42, 3:23:59]: Well, first of all, there are only two companies in the state of Georgia that perform uh tank maintenance. That's utility service out of Perry, Georgia, and American Tank. When I arrived, we were using utility services. Then the city uh solicited bids to uh [3:24:00, 3:24:20]: Acquired a new contract, then American Tank was the preferred vendor. They have done a great job responding to the city's request when the city asked them to paint the logo, the new logo on the city water tanks. They did that in advance because the original contract had specified that the tanks would be painted in a later year, like five. [3:24:20, 3:24:21]: Five years. [3:24:21, 3:24:24]: in within the contract, so they've done an excellent job of [3:24:25, 3:24:27]: responding to the city's needs and the only [3:24:27, 3:24:41]: other vendor that I know that's in close proximity to the city of Stockbridge is in Kentucky, Henderson, Kentucky, which is Pittsburgh Tank. So there's only two companies. We're used we've used both of them and we're currently [3:24:41, 3:24:42]: And um [3:24:43, 3:24:45]: Contract stages with American Tank. [3:24:47, 3:24:47]: Point two. [3:24:48, 3:24:50]: Any questions? Yes, ma'am, go ahead, please. [3:24:50, 3:24:55]: I don't have a question. I just wanna make a motion to approve. [3:24:58, 3:25:05]: To renew the terminal FP 101 216 dash DRR for full service tank maintenance program. [3:25:06, 3:25:09]: Okay, sir, second, Mr. Bunt second. Daddy further discussion. [3:25:10, 3:25:11]: If not all in favor, please indicate. [3:25:12, 3:25:13]: All right. [3:25:13, 3:25:27]: Okay, good deal. Appreciate it. Uh previous unanimous decision. No, is that you're okay. I'm sorry, Ms. Barber. Go ahead. I'm sorry. I thought you would raise your hand to confirm. You have a what do you want to say, ma'am? I actually have a question for attorney Berry. [3:25:28, 3:25:28]: Um [3:25:29, 3:25:34]: Attorney Berry, can you talk about best practice or explain what best practice? [3:25:35, 3:25:39]: are as it pertains to contract renewals. [3:25:40, 3:25:40]: Um [3:25:41, 3:25:49]: After a certain amount of time, what is common practice or best practice when it comes to rebidding these? [3:25:51, 3:25:58]: I think council member it's gonna vary from contract to contract and service to service. I think ultimately at some point they should go back out to bid. [3:25:59, 3:26:07]: I I think it also just depends what the market looks like as well. There there may be some instances where it's just tough to put something back out to bid or [3:26:07, 3:26:11]: For a variety of reasons you haven't ultimately it should go back out to bid at some point. [3:26:12, 3:26:14]: But I think there may be reasons to also have renewals. [3:26:15, 3:26:18]: as well. It depends how long you are in into a contract. [3:26:19, 3:26:20]: Um [3:26:21, 3:26:25]: I mean, I I think honestly it just depends. Ultimately, at some point contract [3:26:26, 3:26:27]: Calculate. [3:26:29, 3:26:35]: All right. Okay. Okay. We had a motion. We we had a second. Once again, all in favor of motion, please indicate. [3:26:37, 3:26:41]: I've got one, two, three, three, four. And I got four. Miss Marber, are you voting? [3:26:42, 3:26:43]: Ale obsane. [3:26:43, 3:26:50]: Okay, four zero one motion passes. Thank you very much. Mayor, uh yes, sir. Just real quick, Mr. Air. [3:26:51, 3:26:55]: You did say there was only two co two contractors in the state of Georgia. [3:26:56, 3:27:16]: Yes, sir, that I'm aware of. And when I did a Google search. And if you get one out of state, then you gotta pay those additional costs for them to come into the state of Georgia since they don't have a home office here in the state. And we we've used both services. Utility services did a great job for us when they performed the services, but we rebidded the project. [3:27:16, 3:27:20]: American tank was the best value at that time. And so we went with the American tank. [3:27:21, 3:27:22]: Thanks, sir. [3:27:23, 3:27:43]: All right. Okay. Uh we're missing we're bypassing eleven and twelve, and we'll go down to thirteen. Council consideration to approve ITB number twenty twenty-one zero zero zero nine, Burke Street Sewer Rehabilitation, RDJE Incorporated. The city stop bridge procurement division is requesting approval to award a fixed contract to [3:27:43, 3:27:55]: to the lowest responsive and responsible bidder, RDJE, Incorporated, invitation to bid 2021-009 for the city of Stockbridge. [3:27:56, 3:28:05]: Brook Street Sewer Rehabilitation, an amount of$759,307. And presented by uh Miss Miller and Mr. Aaron, please. [3:28:06, 3:28:26]: Uh good afternoon, once again, Mayor and Council. Um, as stated, the city of the City of Stockbridge Procurement Division is requesting approval to award the fixed contract to the low bidder. Um, the work to be completed shall consist of furnishing all labor equipment and material necessaries to install approximately 1,650 linear. [3:28:26, 3:28:46]: Of DIP PV piping. The procurement division solicited the invitation for bid. We received three responses to the bid, and those response, the responders included Helix Group, RDJE, and site engineering, in which RDJE. [3:28:46, 3:28:56]: was the low vendor, as you can also see from the physical impact, the funds will be provided by the ARPA funds. [3:28:58, 3:29:04]: Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate that. Council, any questions for Ms. Miller in reference to this proposal? [3:29:06, 3:29:08]: I'll see you in uh yes, ma'am. [3:29:08, 3:29:18]: I would like to make a motion to approve this agenda item as well to contract with the engineering services of Falcon Design Consultant, Inc. [3:29:19, 3:29:29]: Second. Okay. Okay, Ms. Barber, second that uh all right. Uh any other further conversation qu questions. Not all in favor, please indicate. [3:29:30, 3:29:34]: Ah. Okay, it looks like it's a unanimous decision at time. Okay, fantastic. [3:29:35, 3:29:36]: Alrighty. [3:29:37, 3:29:52]: 14 we've taken off for today. 15, we'll move down to 16. 16 is council consideration approved police department job descriptions, organizational chart and pay classifications. Mr. Well excuse me, Chief Tramor, please. [3:29:55, 3:29:58]: Thank you, Mayor and Council. I want to share my screen here with you. [3:29:58, 3:30:03]: Um and I wanted to address some issues that were brought forward by [3:30:03, 3:30:10]: Councilman Thomas in his comments about the budget. And I think there may be some confusion regarding the presentation this evening. [3:30:10, 3:30:18]: Because I'm not seeking to fully approve job descriptions and pay classifications for every position that we're seeking to hire in the police department. [3:30:18, 3:30:26]: The present time what I'm seeking to do is approve job descriptions for the two positions that were presented to council. It's position of commander and lieutenant commander. [3:30:26, 3:30:34]: And I want to show overall how those positions fit into the current organizational structure, but understanding also that this organizational structure is fluid. [3:30:34, 3:30:40]: And it is subject to change based upon the needs of the department, desires of the community, as well as [3:30:40, 3:30:42]: The will of the council. So [3:30:49, 3:30:49]: Okay. [3:30:51, 3:30:56]: Uh can you all see this presentation fine? We can we can see it, sir. Absolutely. Okay, excellent. [3:30:56, 3:31:08]: So the positions that were submitted were the position of commander and lieutenant commander. These are uh executive level positions that would have distinct responsibilities in the organization. [3:31:08, 3:31:10]: And they would also have um [3:31:10, 3:31:15]: Some responsibilities outside of what would be, I guess, typical for the permanent roles. [3:31:15, 3:31:19]: uh as it relates to uh startup of the department and so [3:31:20, 3:31:25]: With our current organizational structure, uh, and I wanted to pull up here for just a second. [3:31:25, 3:31:29]: What the previous presentation on October twenty sixth. [3:31:29, 3:31:35]: uh had covered. And it was forty-nine officers, nine civilian employees for a total of fifty-eight personnel. [3:31:35, 3:31:48]: Uh the way that this was broken down, uh the positions in red are positions that have changed since then. Uh at the moment, we do not identify a need for an accreditation manager. Uh we thought that we would need uh GCIC tech, which is [3:31:48, 3:31:49]: Uh here at the bottom. [3:31:49, 3:31:54]: And uh this position is actually provided for by um [3:31:54, 3:32:05]: either the Henry County Sheriff's Office by virtue of of uh warrants and by the Henry County uh 911 Communication Center um on other entry items. So this position is not needed. [3:32:06, 3:32:11]: Um the crime intel analyst position was a civilian position that we had uh discussed initially. [3:32:11, 3:32:16]: But at the onset implementation, do not believe this is uh needed. [3:32:16, 3:32:22]: Uh we've made a uh change to the investigator position in doing the assessment to determine the needs of investigators. [3:32:23, 3:32:27]: Uh that range was between five and six, and in consultation with some other police. [3:32:27, 3:32:38]: uh professionals. We thought it would be best to move that up to six investigators to make sure that we can respond to the needs of the citizens and sufficiently investigate crime in the city. [3:32:39, 3:32:43]: And then we added two officer positions and removed the commander position. [3:32:43, 3:32:49]: uh from this organizational chart. So this was the previous chart notating the changes. This is the current [3:32:49, 3:32:50]: uh chart. [3:32:51, 3:32:58]: We combined those three commander positions together with one commander over the field services division, which would be responsible for all patrol operations. [3:32:58, 3:33:03]: One commander over the special uh or the investigative and support services section. [3:33:03, 3:33:12]: And based on the size and scope of the uh patrol division, we have two lieutenant commanders that one would oversee day shift, one would oversee the evening shift. [3:33:13, 3:33:33]: The lieutenant commander would support the commander of the investigative and support services division, who will oversee the Office of Investigations, Crime Scene Processing, Property and Evidence Department Training, as well as administrative roles to include fleet and quartermaster, supply and logistics records coordinator, and obviously an administrative assistant. [3:33:33, 3:33:39]: It would be available for front desk. We also have a lieutenant commander's position. It will report directly to the chief of police. [3:33:39, 3:33:59]: This position will be responsible for our Office of Professional Standards, which will oversee all of the accreditation standards for the department, be responsible for policies and procedures, audits, oversight, internal affairs investigation, but we'll also oversee community affairs as well as our background of recruitment and onboarding process. And that's the position I'd mentioned to you earlier. [3:33:59, 3:34:00]: earlier. [3:34:00, 3:34:09]: So what I'm seeking to do this evening is to approve the commander and lieutenant commander uh job descriptions and the pay range. [3:34:09, 3:34:23]: So we are not considering in full all of these positions. And to your point, Councilman Thomas, we would at a later date, once we decide what exactly this organizational chart looks like, be submitting uh job descriptions for each of these positions. [3:34:23, 3:34:30]: Um and we would post uh all of these positions in accordance with what you've already uh outlined. [3:34:30, 3:34:40]: Uh the initial implementation team, uh the initial group of people that were looking to start the department, um, these would be uh positions that we would [3:34:41, 3:34:57]: uh or rather I guess the correct statement would be that I would select, and this is based on um the experience of these individuals and the needs of the department in terms of moving forward with operations. And so uh what I'm looking for is the approval of four positions. [3:34:57, 3:34:59]: Uh to start. [3:34:59, 3:35:01]: This fiscal year. [3:35:01, 3:35:08]: Uh, the slide that I have here before you is uh just an overall pay scale showing these fifty seven positions, the number of [3:35:08, 3:35:12]: different positions assigned to uh each of these grades. [3:35:12, 3:35:16]: And our current pay grade system we've [3:35:16, 3:35:18]: Align our salaries. [3:35:18, 3:35:24]: within our current organizational structure. And I'm gonna break this down for you here in just a moment so that it makes sense to you. [3:35:24, 3:35:39]: But based on these 57 positions, we'd be looking at salaries of roughly about$3.6 million. We would of course add about 25% to that for benefits, which we've talked about previously. But the request before council this evening is. [3:35:40, 3:35:44]: For thirty one thousand dollars to fund these four positions that will be our um [3:35:45, 3:35:56]: our implementation team and this will cover salaries for the remainder of the year. I checked with Mr. Wiggins. Currently there is not, we will exhaust our police services budget. [3:35:57, 3:35:58]: Uh by virtue of uh [3:35:59, 3:36:02]: paying for supplemental services through Henry County at the moment. [3:36:02, 3:36:07]: Therefore, that thirty-one thousand dollars would need to come from general funds to fund these uh four positions. [3:36:08, 3:36:10]: So that we can get them started hopefully by December. [3:36:11, 3:36:20]: and we would be able to get them moving and assign specific tasks and projects that would be beneficial for the full implementation of the department. [3:36:21, 3:36:30]: So, one of the things that I did want to pull up and sharing my screen here, I did meet with Ms. Wheeler. We talked about these positions. [3:36:30, 3:36:36]: And I wanted to share with you that we did pull data from uh the Georgia Department of Community Affairs. [3:36:36, 3:36:40]: As well as other comparable salary data for similarly situated cities. [3:36:40, 3:36:45]: And so I wanted you to understand how we arrived at pay grade one twenty for the police commander position. [3:36:46, 3:36:50]: Uh this position would be roughly the equivalent of a police major in other organizations. [3:36:50, 3:36:58]: You can see here that the city of McDonough, uh their starting salary for that position is$63,000 with a top salary of$102. [3:36:58, 3:37:11]: If we look at Clayton County, it's 69,000 with a top salary of 109. So for uh various different departments who who have their information publicly available, we're able to pull that data together and come up with an average, what you see here at the bottom. [3:37:12, 3:37:16]: We looked at this average and we aligned it with whatever pay grade was most appropriate. [3:37:16, 3:37:19]: Under the curr the the city's current pay structure. [3:37:20, 3:37:21]: T Trimer. [3:37:22, 3:37:25]: Yeah, yeah. Can you zoom into this? [3:37:25, 3:37:26]: Sorry. [3:37:26, 3:37:29]: I wear glasses. I can't see. Thank you. Is that better? [3:37:30, 3:37:31]: Yes, thank you. [3:37:32, 3:37:43]: So you can see the average salary based on uh the the cities that we're able to find the data for ranges from 72 to 117, looking at pay grade 120 for the city. Um [3:37:43, 3:37:49]: The most appropriate pay grade that this this this average range would fall in is 120, which is 74 to 115. [3:37:50, 3:37:56]: And so that's how we arrived at that grade and looking at the lieutenant commander's position. And again, I will zoom in on this. [3:37:57, 3:38:01]: Um, this would be the equivalent roughly of a captain's position in most organizations. [3:38:02, 3:38:08]: And you can see here looking at Clayton and some other uh agencies, the average salary starts out at about 65 to 102. [3:38:08, 3:38:16]: If you look at pay grade 118 currently for the city, the minimum salary is 65 to 101. And so that's how we came up with that pay grade. [3:38:16, 3:38:19]: for that position based on our current structure. [3:38:19, 3:38:28]: And so what I'm seeking approval for is to hire two lieutenant commander positions, four commander positions, not to exceed thirty-one thousand dollars. It will come from general fund. [3:38:29, 3:38:35]: To be able to assist with the uh implementation of the police department. [3:38:35, 3:38:40]: in fulfilling specific roles and needs that will be required to move the department forward. [3:38:41, 3:38:46]: So I'll stop here and if there are any questions, I'd be glad to take those. I'd see Mr. Blount's hand first. Go ahead, sir. [3:38:57, 3:38:58]: He's having problems unreading. [3:39:03, 3:39:05]: [13145.4, 13150.1]: Thank you for the presentation, Chief Tramor. Uh I actually got two questions. [3:39:10, 3:39:20]: Uh, because it seemed like the attorneys didn't know that if these positions needed to go out to bid. And the reason I'm asking that is because when we ask for [3:39:21, 3:39:31]: A salary increase. Um, this council has always looked at in any increase in any salaries or any salaries that have been presented for any positions. [3:39:31, 3:39:46]: Um I would I I would prefer to see the uh applicant's criteria. Um and and I'm still not sure uh why we wouldn't post these positions because these positions are setting up [3:39:46, 3:39:47]: I'm sorry. [3:39:49, 3:39:50]: Go ahead, sir. [3:39:50, 3:40:00]: We can hear you. We can hear you. Yeah, and I'm and I'm and and I'm still wondering uh why we're not posting these positions that are appointed leadership that would be the leadership. [3:40:00, 3:40:15]: of our police department. So two things. Why aren't we posting them? And prior to increasing these budgets for these salaries on these people, uh, I would like for us to at least look at the applicants that have applied or the applicants that are gonna be presented for the budget. [3:40:17, 3:40:20]: Certainly, sir. I understand your perspective. Um [3:40:21, 3:40:24]: I I don't know and forgive me because I am new to this. [3:40:24, 3:40:32]: Um if it's typical that candidates uh for positions outside of direct or level positions are presented to council for consideration. [3:40:32, 3:40:43]: With Mayor Ford as the acting city manager, I did sit down with him and we had conversation and we discussed the credentials and qualifications of these candidates. So they have been vetted by our current city manager. [3:40:43, 3:40:49]: And it's my understanding, as was stated previously, that uh the director of a division is given considerable latitude. [3:40:49, 3:40:57]: in terms of uh appointments, assuming that they meet the established criteria, which is contained in the job description that I presented to you. [3:40:57, 3:41:06]: I can tell you and you're more than welcome to speak to it. I know Chief Grogan with the Dunwoody Police Department met with you all and consulted with you on the implementation of the police department and he [3:41:07, 3:41:27]: uh hired his initial team. And I know that he told you this because I listened to the budget presentation. This was not something that was put out publicly. He surrounded himself with a core group of people who he trusted, who he knew their competencies, who he had worked with closely, and those individuals were part of his team to implement the department. And I believe that was suggested during the budget retreat. You can also talk [3:41:27, 3:41:30]: to uh Chief Yandura, who started up the Brookhaven Police Department. [3:41:31, 3:41:43]: Um, as well as Chief Gene Wilson, who started the Sandy Springs Police Department, you will find that with the implementation of a new police department, things are a little different in this regard, especially as it relates to the initial personnel who are brought into the organization. [3:41:43, 3:41:56]: Now I did have conversations with Mayor Ford and we have discussed this and we are committed to uh building a diverse police department. So I can ensure you, and Mayor Ford can confirm this, that we are bringing a diverse group of people forward. [3:41:56, 3:41:58]: Um that um um [3:41:58, 3:42:01]: matches are are are [3:42:01, 3:42:21]: um our city structure. And so I want to assure you and be transparent in that endeavor. But these individuals are are obviously well qualified. When we get to a point where we offer them a position, then certainly we would have held our resumes and qualifications. But that would be something we definitely would continue to vet with the city manager. [3:42:21, 3:42:26]: as well as Ms. Wheeler, who would definitely be involved in the onboarding process as we move these candidates forward, hopefully. [3:42:27, 3:42:30]: And I appreciate that, Chief Trayman. Just follow up, Mayor. Um [3:42:31, 3:42:34]: And I've never questioned diversity with you at all. [3:42:35, 3:42:39]: Uh I I've never questioned that. So I appreciate you bringing that forward. [3:42:39, 3:42:42]: Uh but but when you come to this council [3:42:43, 3:42:46]: with your five council members that are gonna actually be voting on this budget. [3:42:47, 3:42:54]: uh outside of the city manager, we have to vote on the budget. We're voting on the budget pertaining to salaries that you're bringing forward to us. [3:42:55, 3:42:56]: And so [3:42:56, 3:43:02]: If we wanted to see the qualifications of this person we're we're pointing uh giving this budget to. [3:43:02, 3:43:10]: You're saying that you you don't think that's appropriate or you're saying that that's that's not really what the position that you're taking that we should? [3:43:15, 3:43:23]: Sir, I'm not saying that like I said, at the onset of this, this is new to me. And so this this does not seem to be based on my experience typical. [3:43:23, 3:43:31]: Um I I I I don't know. Maybe you would know better than I would. Uh however, uh it's my understanding based on my experiences. [3:43:31, 3:43:33]: that uh the chief [3:43:33, 3:43:48]: uh the startup of many organizations has been given the latitude in terms of who to bring on uh as part of their initial team. And I believe, sir, that I was doing my due diligence in that I involved the mayor in that process as the acting city manager in those decisions. [3:43:49, 3:43:57]: And um as it relates to the question about diversity, it wasn't so much for you, Mr. Blount. I saw in the comments on Facebook that there was a question by one of our community members. [3:43:57, 3:44:03]: They wanted to ensure that we were taking that in consideration in terms of our process. And so I wanted to speak to that specifically. [3:44:05, 3:44:24]: So what it amounts to is that he did bring the gentlemen forward. I didn't meet with them. And uh and uh and it's also my my thought process that by the chief bringing up uh being the trees chief that we selected and to uh establish the police department, he had a latitude to get his initial team on on site and to uh bring forward this police department, bring it forward. [3:44:25, 3:44:30]: And so uh and it's actually I have mentioned to him a couple of times as well as publicly. [3:44:30, 3:44:50]: That uh not only highly qualified individuals, what we need, but also a sense of diversity that is needed in the city to have the police force uh, in a sense, uh mirror and look like this community in which they're policing. And the individuals that I met uh actually meet that qualification. And I and I trust in that the chief and his selection of his initial team. [3:44:50, 3:44:52]: team to help start up the program itself. [3:44:52, 3:44:57]: Uh so he has my full full total support in this aspect and and people that he br he's bringing forward. [3:44:57, 3:45:06]: Let me let me say Mayor, just just to say this to you. Uh and I'm talking to the mayor, I'm responding to the mayor, uh, Ms. Alexander, please. [3:45:08, 3:45:12]: Uh when you when we talk about city of Atlanta, we talk about other cities. [3:45:13, 3:45:15]: I don't know anywhere. [3:45:16, 3:45:22]: that a council member in any city that just wants to see the qualifications of a person being hired. [3:45:23, 3:45:35]: that there will be any opposition to that. That's all I'm saying. Whether what whatever's procedural or or or not, just to say, let me see that, let me see who we're hiring. [3:45:36, 3:45:44]: That's that's that's it. It's not about do you want to hire this person? It's just seeing the people that we're hiring. As simple as that. [3:45:45, 3:45:49]: All right, thank you. Uh uh Mr. Washington, you had your hand up, sir. Go ahead, please. [3:45:50, 3:46:02]: Yeah, there just is some concern that we have to take into consideration that there has to be some level of anonymity and confidentiality in this process because these people are currently working. [3:46:03, 3:46:11]: And so if it gets out that they're looking to leave to go someplace else, that can present huge policy for the city, bringing them in and for the department that they're leaving from. [3:46:13, 3:46:13]: Thank you, sir. [3:46:14, 3:46:16]: Uh Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please, sir. [3:46:16, 3:46:21]: Yeah, uh Chi. Now I I'm not concerned about who. [3:46:22, 3:46:25]: Because I will agree that you do have that authority. So that's [3:46:25, 3:46:28]: Trust me, that that's not my concern about who you bring in. [3:46:29, 3:46:33]: Uh my only concern is is about the process and the procedures. [3:46:34, 3:46:34]: Um [3:46:35, 3:46:37]: And that's why I sort of stated about [3:46:37, 3:46:45]: um you know the the the pay class the job description and no things coming forward because [3:46:45, 3:46:53]: That's that's the authority and and responsibility that we have to approve all of those things. And that was my only concern. [3:46:53, 3:46:55]: And I want to make sure that [3:46:55, 3:46:58]: Um the budget the the police department budget. [3:46:59, 3:47:05]: is in the city overall budget. So d those are just my concern, not who [3:47:06, 3:47:26]: Uh, I just want to make sure that we're following all of the the process because this is a new department and these positions are new. And anytime you have new positions, then that is a a course of action that those new positions need to take. And that was that was my only concern. [3:47:25, 3:47:27]: And I just wanted to make sure. [3:47:28, 3:47:43]: that all of these uh uh positions and all of the other procedure will be in followed. So that that's my only concern. And I think you you answered uh some of my concerns um earlier. You answered some of them just a minute ago. And so [3:47:44, 3:47:45]: Um [3:47:45, 3:47:48]: You know, just understanding that the the city [3:47:49, 3:47:51]: The police department for the city of Styrid. [3:47:52, 3:47:53]: It is included. [3:47:54, 3:48:14]: In the overall city's budget, and it is not a separate budget. So I just wanted to make sure that that was being understood by all that this police department budget it fits in uh with the city overall budget. And I just wanted to make sure that we was all clear on that. But going back, I just wanted to make sure that. [3:48:13, 3:48:14]: Yeah. [3:48:14, 3:48:18]: Uh you know, the other item was was was was was approved. [3:48:19, 3:48:19]: Um [3:48:20, 3:48:27]: fact that all of these were new positions, but but it's much clearer now, uh, since you saw the state of that. And I do see [3:48:27, 3:48:28]: Um [3:48:29, 3:48:31]: The job description for those [3:48:31, 3:48:36]: um four position even though it's two position but there are four individuals [3:48:36, 3:48:37]: Is that correct? [3:48:40, 3:48:47]: Yes, sir. That's correct. There are two job descriptions, but four positions. There will be two for each position. And I want to make it certain too that. [3:48:47, 3:48:57]: We have intentionally left uh uh key positions open in our organization so that we have the opportunity to select uh the best and brightest. [3:48:57, 3:49:00]: And we are not um uh [3:49:00, 3:49:06]: These are the only positions that we will be hand selecting for implementation because I can attest to the skills that are needed. [3:49:06, 3:49:11]: and the the the qualifications and the abilities of these individuals that we looking to bring forward. [3:49:11, 3:49:31]: But from this point on, every position that we post for the department would be posted. We would assess all candidates coming forward for these positions, but obviously before we did that, we would request from you all approval of those positions and those job descriptions. And we would work with Ms. Wheeler to make sure that those are posted. [3:49:31, 3:49:36]: and um that we are uh properly vetting all the candidates that are coming forward. [3:49:37, 3:49:57]: Mayor Potem, go ahead, please. Oh my sorry. I'm going, Mr. Thomas. I'm sorry. Well, and and Chief, I also I asked the question about um you know comparable um salaries, and you did mention, and I appreciate you uh going back to the chart. I I looked at that, I did have some concern, but I do want to [3:49:57, 3:50:03]: understand how we have to be competitive. And I think you sort of spoke to that. So I think you are sort of [3:50:04, 3:50:08]: uh answering you know my question as we we started go. [3:50:09, 3:50:11]: And I think you also mentioned the fact that [3:50:12, 3:50:16]: These positions will be advertised. [3:50:17, 3:50:18]: Um is that is correct. [3:50:19, 3:50:22]: That's correct. All future positions will be advertised. [3:50:22, 3:50:24]: We will recruit for all those positions. [3:50:24, 3:50:28]: Now when you when you say our future or you mean an all position? [3:50:30, 3:50:40]: Well these four positions that I'm seeking to hire right now, these will be these will be selected positions. Uh again, uh several of these individuals have experience specifically with startups of new police departments. [3:50:41, 3:50:46]: Uh, so there's certainly value in that. And uh so I'd be looking for this group to be part of the implementation team. [3:50:47, 3:51:07]: uh to assign specific things. And so uh I would definitely have to work with Ms. Wheeler to understand the logistics. We may have to to post it as a matter of formality through human resources, but um we'd certainly be looking to to to make a selection on these. And again, um I think as appropriate once once the candidates have accepted an offer with the city, I think that that it would [3:51:07, 3:51:14]: be appropriate at that point in time to share credentials and to allow uh the those those candidates to be available uh to the council. [3:51:14, 3:51:25]: But to Mr Washington's point, I think that it wouldn't be appropriate at the moment, considering the fact that uh these individuals have not been um uh that that they're still employed and have not been offered a job by the city. [3:51:25, 3:51:27]: No chief, I I I get that part, but [3:51:28, 3:51:31]: I do not think that you can select. [3:51:32, 3:51:35]: uh without advertising. It is your [3:51:35, 3:51:37]: authority to [3:51:38, 3:51:43]: Select once it is advertised, but I don't think you can bypass [3:51:43, 3:51:45]: And I get the attorneys to weigh in. [3:51:45, 3:51:49]: I don't think that you see that this see this this is my concern. [3:51:49, 3:51:51]: I don't think you can bypass. [3:51:52, 3:51:54]: That process of advertising. [3:51:55, 3:52:10]: Uh, but you have the authority to select once that process has taken place. Now that's my understanding, but I guess I would need the attorneys to weigh in on that. But I don't think you can just arbitrarily select without advertising. [3:52:12, 3:52:16]: All right, our attorneys, what kind of questions and concerns you have? How can you help us here? [3:52:21, 3:52:25]: Mr Washington, Mr. Barron, anyone in the suit? I was I was talking I was talking no. [3:52:29, 3:52:31]: I think that we can just take this hello. [3:52:32, 3:52:32]: Can you ever? [3:52:33, 3:52:34]: Yeah, we can hear you, sir. Go ahead, please. Okay. [3:52:36, 3:52:37]: I think what we'll do is [3:52:38, 3:52:39]: Take this information. [3:52:40, 3:52:42]: And talk with Miss Wheeler about it. [3:52:43, 3:52:52]: And we can also talk with the clerk about the whatever resolutions that may have previously passed, which may affect this. I've looked at some of the information that have been provided during this meeting. [3:52:53, 3:52:54]: And then we can just give a read now. [3:52:55, 3:52:58]: And I imagine you have to look deeply into the charter as well, I suppose. [3:52:59, 3:52:59]: Mm-hmm. [3:53:00, 3:53:08]: Okay. So otherwise there there's an answer, a do out that uh you now have to help try to help us with this process there and make sure we're we're doing the right thing. [3:53:08, 3:53:08]: Mm-hmm. [3:53:09, 3:53:10]: All right, thank you. [3:53:10, 3:53:18]: Uh okay Mr. Thomas. Yes, right. Go ahead, sir. I I just want the chief to to be clear on my position. [3:53:19, 3:53:23]: Uh you have the authority to select. [3:53:24, 3:53:28]: Once it is advertised. If you have a thousand applications. [3:53:29, 3:53:31]: You have the authority to select. [3:53:32, 3:53:34]: That that's the only point I'm trying to get over that. [3:53:35, 3:53:38]: I I'm I'm I'm almost one hundred percent sure. [3:53:38, 3:53:41]: that it has to be advertised. Deposition has to be advertised. [3:53:42, 3:53:46]: And that that's my only only point. And you don't want to go down that road. [3:53:47, 3:53:48]: And have to come back and say [3:53:49, 3:53:51]: It wasn't advertised. I I don't think you want to do that. [3:53:52, 3:54:00]: I I can just tell you from experience from speaking with other chiefs who've been part of the startup. Um I don't think that process has been followed, but understanding too. [3:54:00, 3:54:08]: That the HR processes may be different city to city. So I certainly respect that and concede to the fact that this may be the case with the city. And we certainly want to make sure whatever we're doing. [3:54:09, 3:54:14]: is lawful and it's appropriate. And so I I can assure you that whatever avenue we have to take, we will take. [3:54:15, 3:54:17]: Well that that threshold for startup. [3:54:18, 3:54:21]: That may be the difference. I I I don't know. [3:54:21, 3:54:23]: Uh with startup and [3:54:24, 3:54:25]: Um [3:54:25, 3:54:37]: uh selecting others with an established police department. So I I I don't know that. So anyway, Mayor I'm going to yield and hopefully the attorneys can can get that, but be sure that you have the authority to select. [3:54:38, 3:54:40]: Miraport Tem, go ahead, please. [3:54:40, 3:54:46]: Yeah, uh thank you. I appreciate those comments and uh to get the clarification, Councilman. Um [3:54:47, 3:55:00]: What it really comes down to is in the end, um we we want the chief to select uh the persons uh that he desired deemed necessary to get the department off to a good start. [3:55:01, 3:55:04]: following the correct processes. So I appreciate [3:55:04, 3:55:06]: Uh Councilman Thomas making sure that [3:55:06, 3:55:09]: We're going down the right processes. [3:55:09, 3:55:20]: Uh uh and so uh that uh is due diligence. The attorneys are going to make sure that they look to make sure that we're going down the right road. But in i in either event. [3:55:20, 3:55:22]: I certainly want to be very supportive. [3:55:22, 3:55:25]: I've been very consistent from the very beginning that [3:55:26, 3:55:27]: The chief [3:55:27, 3:55:30]: Whomever we hired, even before we hired Mr. Tramer. [3:55:30, 3:55:33]: На вас are public safety екс. [3:55:33, 3:55:37]: And we must lean on the chief in order to bring forward. [3:55:37, 3:55:40]: The individuals necessary. [3:55:40, 3:55:43]: To put the s police department together successfully. [3:55:43, 3:55:50]: I certainly don't want it on my head or on my decision because lives are at stake. [3:55:51, 3:55:52]: When lives are at stake. [3:55:53, 3:55:55]: We want to turn to the people who understand. [3:55:56, 3:56:01]: this area and have an expertise. As Councilman Thomas said, we want an HR person. [3:56:01, 3:56:13]: that has some experience uh in public safety because the the the margin for error is zero because you make the wrong decision and somebody dies. So [3:56:13, 3:56:14]: In that aspect [3:56:14, 3:56:16]: I want the person with the most [3:56:17, 3:56:23]: With all the credentials and I said that from the very beginning, whomever we hire as the chief. [3:56:23, 3:56:25]: That person should come in. [3:56:25, 3:56:26]: Set up the department. [3:56:27, 3:56:30]: You know, a comment was made earlier that the council has to prove [3:56:30, 3:56:31]: The org chart. [3:56:32, 3:56:33]: Technically that's true. [3:56:34, 3:56:38]: But I don't think the council should be moving around individuals on the public safety. [3:56:39, 3:56:39]: Uh [3:56:40, 3:56:40]: Or chart. [3:56:41, 3:56:52]: When we have a professional who's the chief who says, this is the way it's supposed to be done by public safety standards. It would be irresponsible of us to shake that up. [3:56:52, 3:56:55]: Because we didn't like what it looked like. [3:56:55, 3:56:58]: When the professional whom we hired and entrusted. [3:56:58, 3:57:08]: with developing a department says this is the art chart that's necessary. As Mr. Travers Chief Chambers said, he even consulted with other professionals. [3:57:09, 3:57:11]: to look at and make the adjustments to it. [3:57:12, 3:57:14]: Whom have we consulted with? [3:57:15, 3:57:24]: I don't think we want to make those decisions amongst ourselves. This comment is particularly to the art chart. I'm not going to touch the art chart. [3:57:24, 3:57:27]: Whatever chart the teeth brings forward. [3:57:27, 3:57:32]: Okay, it fits into the budgetary constraints that we put forward. [3:57:32, 3:57:36]: It needs to move forward without interference from this council. [3:57:36, 3:57:40]: Because the last thing I won't say is somebody lost their life. [3:57:40, 3:57:42]: Or the city is less safe. [3:57:43, 3:57:44]: Because the council [3:57:44, 3:57:51]: was so micromanaging or interfering with the setup of the police department, it compromised public safety. [3:57:51, 3:57:54]: We don't want to find ourselves in that position. [3:57:54, 3:57:58]: And as councilman Thomas has said, we want to make sure from the onset. [3:57:58, 3:58:03]: that we go through the right processes, whether that's advertising. [3:58:03, 3:58:06]: And then the chief actually selected the individual. [3:58:06, 3:58:08]: But I think it's very important. [3:58:08, 3:58:11]: in any organization that you form. [3:58:11, 3:58:14]: You those first initial individuals that you hire. [3:58:15, 3:58:17]: They have to fit into the culture. [3:58:17, 3:58:30]: They're helping you create the culture of the individuals that you bring in. If you select a bad apple in the core, before you get started, it just it replicates in the rest of the department. [3:58:30, 3:58:32]: But these individuals are trusted to him. [3:58:33, 3:58:36]: Because he's had experience with them. [3:58:36, 3:58:38]: And understands and they understand. [3:58:38, 3:58:40]: He understands that [3:58:40, 3:58:43]: The mission of this city and the statement oh that we're trying to make. [3:58:44, 3:58:53]: And I would trust that he would profine those individuals out there who would do so. But again, down the line, any subsequent individuals. [3:58:53, 3:58:55]: That will be chosen. [3:58:55, 3:59:00]: will go through the appropriate process, whether that's advertising again and then being selected, but [3:59:01, 3:59:03]: I don't want us to get in a position where we're [3:59:03, 3:59:06]: doing anything to select public safety officials. [3:59:07, 3:59:10]: And I and I want us to tread lightly down that down that road. [3:59:12, 3:59:19]: Are any other questions on the council before we ask uh or is there a motion to accept this uh this proposal on these job descriptions? [3:59:20, 3:59:21]: No other comments, I've got a motion. [3:59:23, 3:59:23]: I have a motion. [3:59:27, 3:59:28]: Is there a motion? [3:59:30, 3:59:32]: I'll make a motion to um [3:59:32, 3:59:34]: Uh uh w well I'll make a motion. [3:59:34, 3:59:36]: To approve the request. [3:59:37, 3:59:42]: Based upon what Councilman Thomas suggested with the city attorneys. [3:59:42, 3:59:46]: That they determine what's the appropriate process, which is [3:59:46, 3:59:47]: They [3:59:47, 3:59:50]: Авдев аверзми із несери. [3:59:51, 3:59:52]: We will do the advertising. [3:59:52, 3:59:54]: And then the selection will be made. [3:59:55, 4:00:01]: that I think that would be the way to uh to approach to to approach this since this issue [4:00:01, 4:00:03]: has been raised since you asked for a motion. [4:00:04, 4:00:05]: I think that would be most [4:00:05, 4:00:10]: appropriate to say to put that into motion. Is that what you were stating, councilman? [4:00:11, 4:00:13]: Uh I would say so. [4:00:13, 4:00:15]: And I I know the attorneys [4:00:16, 4:00:18]: Say they had to to to look into that, but [4:00:19, 4:00:24]: I d I do believe that it has to be advertised one hundred percent sure. [4:00:24, 4:00:29]: Uh and hopefully um uh Mr. Bearer, uh uh Mr. Washington. [4:00:30, 4:00:39]: that you can get this information back to us as soon as possible because without a doubt, I am in favor of the Stockbridge Police Department. [4:00:39, 4:00:41]: Wholeheartedly. [4:00:41, 4:00:43]: Uh uh uh you know without a doubt. [4:00:44, 4:01:04]: I just want to make sure that we're just doing it right. And I'm going to re-emphasize this again, Chief. You have the authority to select your own people. You have the authority to set up the um the art chalk the way you see it. So I'm in favor of all of that. But I'm just trying to make sure that we [4:01:04, 4:01:23]: We just do it right. So once we roll this out, we don't have to look back, we don't have to second guess, and we don't have to answer questions about some misappropriation and things of that nature. But uh but I am for the Stockbridge Police Department 100%. [4:01:25, 4:01:29]: All right, the motion is made. We'll have to have it read back, but is there a second to the motion? [4:01:31, 4:01:34]: I second the motion. Mr. Thomas seconds that motion now. [4:01:35, 4:01:35]: Miss Holiday. [4:01:36, 4:01:39]: I'm gonna ask you to repeat it to make sure we got it right. [4:01:39, 4:01:42]: Or would we have it that we're understand what we're voting on? [4:01:43, 4:01:47]: Yes, Mayor, I actually have a question as far as what is [4:01:48, 4:01:50]: Item number sixteen. [4:01:50, 4:01:56]: is to include the police department job descriptions, organizational chart, and pan classification. [4:01:56, 4:01:59]: However, m uh chief tramer [4:01:59, 4:02:01]: Reference two positions. [4:02:01, 4:02:02]: So it's [4:02:03, 4:02:04]: I need to know what. [4:02:06, 4:02:13]: documents are going to be attached. The full j uh the full or org chart, all of the job description. I mean all of the um [4:02:13, 4:02:14]: Hey Class. [4:02:15, 4:02:19]: Because there were only two job descriptions. So I just need to understand. [4:02:23, 4:02:25]: Uh Madam Clerk, it would be um [4:02:25, 4:02:31]: Two job descriptions is correct. That would be four positions. There would be two for each of the two job descriptions. [4:02:32, 4:02:32]: Okay. [4:02:33, 4:02:39]: All right, so based on that, then um Mayor Proteir Alexander made a motion to approve based on the request. [4:02:40, 4:02:41]: By councilman. [4:02:41, 4:02:42]: Thomas [4:02:43, 4:02:47]: Contingent upon the attorney's response. [4:02:47, 4:02:50]: Regarding the advertising of the position. [4:02:52, 4:02:55]: All right. Is everybody clear on that? And is everybody in agreement? [4:02:56, 4:02:58]: I was gonna say, Mayor Portano, is that your motion? [4:02:58, 4:02:59]: Yes, that's it. [4:03:00, 4:03:01]: Okay, Mr. Thomas, you had a question. [4:03:02, 4:03:03]: Well [4:03:03, 4:03:04]: Madam Clerk. [4:03:04, 4:03:09]: sort of raise an issue that I'm not sure I I know the answer to. [4:03:10, 4:03:13]: Uh so if it's appropriate for me to ask the clerk a question. [4:03:13, 4:03:14]: Yeah, so go ahead. [4:03:15, 4:03:15]: Um [4:03:16, 4:03:20]: Even though there are two positions [4:03:20, 4:03:22]: That are coming forward. [4:03:23, 4:03:25]: And the organization a chart is [4:03:26, 4:03:29]: Indication of the full [4:03:29, 4:03:30]: Department [4:03:30, 4:03:32]: So are we then are we [4:03:33, 4:03:40]: And I don't want to put you on the spot, Madam Clerk, but are we correct? And I know you have this uh institutional knowledge. [4:03:41, 4:03:44]: So is it are we correct then that we can approve? [4:03:44, 4:03:47]: The overall organization chart, even though [4:03:48, 4:03:49]: We are only hiring [4:03:50, 4:03:51]: Um [4:03:51, 4:03:53]: Four people in in two classifications. [4:03:56, 4:03:57]: Um [4:03:57, 4:04:04]: Councilman Thomas, I would say yes to that, but in this um the job descriptions are not attached. [4:04:04, 4:04:07]: But your budget requires. [4:04:07, 4:04:10]: Your organizational chart, your job descriptions. [4:04:11, 4:04:13]: And your pay in class be attached. [4:04:14, 4:04:18]: So before you adopt your budget on uh December thirteenth. [4:04:18, 4:04:20]: That in my opinion. [4:04:20, 4:04:23]: And HR is on the line and your treasurer's on the line. [4:04:24, 4:04:28]: needs to be attached before you adopt a fiscal 2022 budget. [4:04:30, 4:04:34]: So what they and if we can get confirmation from your HR and treasurer. [4:04:34, 4:04:35]: It is [4:04:36, 4:04:38]: What's in your ordinance for your budget adoption? [4:04:39, 4:04:51]: Well, Mayor, with that being said, and Mr. Tramor and the attorneys, let's let's let's try to make sure that all of that is in place before we adopt the overall seat of Stock Bridge 2022 budget. [4:04:51, 4:05:03]: Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. It will be done. Absolutely. All right. Thank you. So Chief, so I just in closing, Chief, do you have any issues or concern and understand how we have to do this? [4:05:04, 4:05:06]: No, sir, obviously. I mean [4:05:06, 4:05:18]: I I'm I'm I'm part of law enforcement. So we want to make sure that we do it lawfully. Right. So I'm listening I'm I'm all I'm all about doing things the right way. I'm I'm just I'm operating based on my prior knowledge. [4:05:18, 4:05:25]: So if there are processes that we need to go through, we're certainly going to adhere to those to make sure that we are in compliance. And I think Mr. Washington had a [4:05:25, 4:05:28]: Yeah, he's got his hand. Mr. Washington, go ahead, sir. [4:05:28, 4:05:31]: I just want to make sure we're clear on the timelines because if they're [4:05:32, 4:05:34]: Am I understanding this correctly that [4:05:34, 4:05:40]: We want to vote on the budget and approve the budget first before we advertise for these positions or [4:05:40, 4:05:44]: If we come back and say this is the process that has to be followed. [4:05:44, 4:05:46]: Can we advertise for those positions? [4:05:49, 4:06:09]: Well, what it is is that what I I would say what it is is that we have to we'll first of all we have to approve the budget by the by the third reading. But I would think you that if once you do your due diligence and research, I would imagine if if it indicates that uh well, if if it indicates that we have to advertise these positions, these four positions under these two job descriptions. [4:06:09, 4:06:29]: We'll have to do that right away. And I would imagine then that the rest of the uh job descriptions would have to be presented and approved prior to the final adoption of the budget, and those will be advertised after the fact because I think what Mr. Tramer needs, what Chief needs is four individuals initially to start everything. [4:06:29, 4:06:36]: thing up and everything else start falling after that is what I my simple assumption at this point. And okay, the Vanessa Holliday has her hand up. Go ahead, ma'am. [4:06:38, 4:06:39]: You've made it in. [4:06:40, 4:06:44]: Okay, one other thing that was omitted from the motion was the fact that the [4:06:45, 4:06:48]: Um, positions are going to require a budget amendment. [4:06:49, 4:06:54]: And fund balance is the um funding source. So that needs to be included as well. [4:06:55, 4:06:56]: So [4:06:57, 4:07:03]: It okay, thank you, Vanessa. Jesus Okay, Miss Miss uh Gan, go ahead please. [4:07:03, 4:07:18]: Mayor, this is very irresponsible of us. We are jumping the gun once again, just to please people. The bottom line is it wasn't done right. We don't have a job description. We're talking about not to exceed 31,000. [4:07:19, 4:07:25]: It could easily be done. Bring it back to the next meeting and do it right. I don't like. [4:07:25, 4:07:32]: Voting on these contingencies, what if we don't approve the job description? What if we don't approve certain things? This is wrong. [4:07:33, 4:07:33]: I mean [4:07:34, 4:07:41]: It would be incompetent of me to vote on something with all these contingencies in place. [4:07:42, 4:08:02]: Every single contingency that we possibly could have. What is the rush on getting it done right the first time? Make sure you bring the job description. You let us know you're saying not to feed 31,000. We have two months left. This is November and December. You're telling me that we're gonna be able to spend$31,000 for. [4:08:02, 4:08:13]: Two to four people. Not only that, but the last meeting we had and the last town hall, they said 43, then what the 50 now, if I look at the chart, it's 57 employees. [4:08:14, 4:08:20]: This is wrong. We should not be voting on this right now at this time. It needs to be done right. [4:08:21, 4:08:26]: And anyone who votes for it just to say, oh, we're gonna vote the way the chief wants us to vote. [4:08:27, 4:08:33]: You're not voting the way the HR wants us to vote. You're not voting the way the engineer wants us to vote. [4:08:33, 4:08:41]: We're not experts on any of these matters. We need to rely on the experts, but we also need for them to do it right. So bring in the job description. [4:08:42, 4:08:45]: And do what you're supposed to do before I vote on something. Period. [4:08:47, 4:09:01]: All right. Well, there's still a motion on the floor has been seconded anyway in this aspect. Mr. Washington, your hand's still up, or you still have something to say or you just didn't take it down, sir. No, I'll take it down on that. Okay. All right. All right. Now motion's been made. It's been seconded. Any further discussion? [4:09:02, 4:09:11]: All right. Um uh um Mayor Pro Tem, you have to this vote, vote. Well I was about to okay. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [4:09:13, 4:09:16]: All favor, I got uh two in favor, all opposed. [4:09:16, 4:09:17]: Opposed. [4:09:18, 4:09:21]: Uh Mr. Blount, um Mr. Bob Miss Barber? [4:09:22, 4:09:23]: I have a question. [4:09:25, 4:09:27]: Okay. What's your question? [4:09:28, 4:09:43]: Um madam clerk mentioned about a budget amendment. Has that included in this motion? It is not. It is not. See, that's why I had her read the motion. Motion made it's been seconded. That's why I had to read the motion. Um [4:09:43, 4:09:50]: Let's do this again. Will I add can I ask Mayor Pro Tem Alexander? Yeah, we can we can add the budget amendment to it. [4:09:51, 4:09:52]: Okay. [4:09:52, 4:09:58]: Would you amend and that's it? Yes, amend the motion to add the budget uh amendment to it. [4:09:58, 4:09:59]: I see okay. [4:10:01, 4:10:02]: All right, uh so [4:10:03, 4:10:22]: Okay, Miss Holliday, now she's writing it down. So let's make sure we understand it's what they just do. Now let's face it, no reason we got it right here. I'm sorry. I mean you all brought this up, so let's go back and let it stop. I'm sorry, you brought this up. All right. So what do you have the master for the reminder? Okay, so what I have is this motion is to approve. [4:10:23, 4:10:25]: The request [4:10:26, 4:10:26]: Yeah. [4:10:28, 4:10:30]: For the two positions. [4:10:31, 4:10:35]: For the police department, those job descriptions are included. [4:10:36, 4:10:39]: The paying classification is included. [4:10:40, 4:10:44]: And this is based on a contingency upon the attorney. [4:10:44, 4:10:51]: Who will come back and and uh state whether or not the positions need to be advertised. But it is for two positions. [4:10:52, 4:10:55]: Two job descriptions, four positions. [4:10:56, 4:11:02]: And the fund balance, I don't know where that I know it was a thirty-one thousand dollar, but there's a fund balance. [4:11:02, 4:11:11]: uh amount for the budget amendment to cover the thirst thirty one thousand to the fund for yes thirty one I can uh some amount [4:11:11, 4:11:31]: 31,000 is what the uh chief originally made, said stated, and I believe that's what Mayor Pro Tem is indicating as well. And there was an additional amendment just now also prior to that, sir. Mr. Mayor Pro Tem, you mentioned, I think from the Councilman Barbers one is something you do add in. Is that in that? No, the 310 is a budget amendment. [4:11:33, 4:11:37]: That was to include the budget amendment, Mayor. Right, and I did. From fund balance. [4:11:37, 4:11:38]: Okay. All right. All right. [4:11:39, 4:11:41]: So the motion has been made. [4:11:41, 4:11:44]: By Mayor Pro Tem, it's been seconded by Councilman Thomas. Is that correct? [4:11:45, 4:11:48]: Yes. All right. All all in favor of motion, please entertain. [4:11:49, 4:11:55]: Have we have we given a a price on the overall uh have we given a number for the overall budget for the four positions? [4:11:56, 4:12:04]: For the for the time frame for this fiscal for the rest of this fiscal year is thirty one thousand dollars once they get on site. It's what th thirty one thousand dollars. [4:12:06, 4:12:14]: For the month of December. These guys, these gentlemen, if they're they're hired, thirty-one thousand dollars comes in between now and the end of the year, primary in this month of December. [4:12:15, 4:12:17]: Is what is what is what I understand. [4:12:18, 4:12:22]: Is that not correct, Chief? Uh since you brought that forward, is that not a correct statement? [4:12:22, 4:12:23]: Not true. [4:12:24, 4:12:33]: Yes, that would be correct. That would that would cover uh and that's why the proposal was up to thirty one thousand dollars. It would cover the salaries through the uh the remainder of this year for the month of December. [4:12:35, 4:12:36]: Okay. [4:12:37, 4:12:37]: All right. [4:12:38, 4:12:39]: All right. [4:12:40, 4:12:42]: We had a motion. We had a second. [4:12:42, 4:12:44]: All in favor of motion, please indicate. [4:12:45, 4:12:47]: One, two, three, all pose. [4:12:49, 4:12:53]: Definitely oppose this mayor. And the reason I oppose it is because [4:12:53, 4:12:57]: There is a we don't have anything laid out. [4:12:57, 4:13:06]: No job description, no anything. Are you talking about thirty one thousand dollars not to exceed thirty one thousand dollars for 30 days, 60 days? [4:13:06, 4:13:07]: I have a problem with that. [4:13:07, 4:13:10]: All right. The motion passed three to two. [4:13:10, 4:13:20]: Councilman Barber, we're gonna move on. Motion passed three to two. All right. I don't like when misinformation is put out there. Well two to five prescriptions were provided to us. [4:13:20, 4:13:21]: Yes. [4:13:22, 4:13:23]: Okay, they were provided. Yes, they were. [4:13:24, 4:13:24]: Okay. [4:13:25, 4:13:34]: Motion passes three to two. Let's move on. Now let's go to council consideration to approve the purchase of the police department vehicles. Mr. Tramer, please. Chief Tramer. Tremor, please. [4:13:41, 4:13:45]: Hopefully all can see my screen here. Yes, so this. [4:13:45, 4:13:46]: This uh [4:13:46, 4:13:49]: Council should have uh requests. [4:13:49, 4:13:56]: for uh two million three hundred and sixty doll uh two million three hundred sixty thousand and eighty five dollars. [4:13:56, 4:14:01]: uh for the acquisition of uh sixty police vehicles for the startup of the department. [4:14:01, 4:14:03]: Um this this um [4:14:04, 4:14:14]: Presentation right here, or this slide rather, uh represents those vehicles, a breakdown of what those vehicles are, a breakdown of the cost of those vehicles, the total cost. [4:14:14, 4:14:21]: And then uh you have the retail uh price and then the government state contract pricing. So you can see that we're receiving these vehicles below. [4:14:22, 4:14:24]: uh the state contract pricing. [4:14:24, 4:14:44]: Um Mr. Blount asked earlier about whether or not these vehicles included equipment. They do not. That will be a separate uh proposal that I will present before council for the upfitting of those vehicles. But I just wanted to lay that out since it was a question that it will roughly cost us uh somewhere in the bulk. [4:14:44, 4:14:47]: ballpark of about six hundred and eighty thousand dollars. [4:14:47, 4:14:53]: for the upfitting of those vehicles. So the total cost of the vehicles with equipment would be just slightly over three million dollars. [4:14:54, 4:14:59]: Um we're requesting to purchase those vehicles under an emergency uh purchase exception. [4:14:59, 4:15:13]: And the reason for that is everybody knows there is a supply shortage of police vehicles. And there are only a few vehicle dealers that deal in sufficient quantities such that they have these vehicles readily available. [4:15:13, 4:15:19]: Uh Brandon Ford currently has 34 of the needed vehicles that will be coming in at the end of this month. [4:15:19, 4:15:23]: Uh, which would allow us sufficient time to be able to order the needed equipment. [4:15:23, 4:15:27]: And to upfit those vehicles for operation on July one. [4:15:27, 4:15:31]: And the remaining vehicles uh will be in around January. [4:15:32, 4:15:44]: Uh we have not been able to locate any other dealership who's able to provide vehicles within a time frame that can guarantee that we will have those vehicles in sufficient time to be able to upfit them and have them ready for patrol. [4:15:44, 4:16:01]: for July one. And I don't know if our attorneys need to chime in on the emergency purchase. I was working with uh with Mr. Washington and Mr. Berry uh regarding that and supplied them with supplemental documentation, which I believe they've also provided to council. [4:16:01, 4:16:06]: So what I'll do is just pause here for a moment to allow uh them to chime in and any input. [4:16:07, 4:16:08]: From you mayor or council. [4:16:10, 4:16:15]: Chief, this is Jeremy. Uh yeah, I I spoke to the Chief multiple times over the weekend. [4:16:15, 4:16:19]: And put this in the resolution, but as the chief said, just given [4:16:20, 4:16:26]: How difficult it is to buy a car in general right now of any type, much less buying 50 police cruisers. [4:16:27, 4:16:30]: We believe that the the circumstances. [4:16:30, 4:16:34]: Um, are such that this would meet the definition of an emergency. [4:16:34, 4:16:54]: Um again, you know, we believe it's justified. Even after these vehicles are purchased, it'll take about four months to make all the you know the additions to the vehicles to have them service ready so that the force can begin by July 1st. Uh, you know, it it's 1015 at night, it's late, but I'm happy to you know sort of talk through this as much as. [4:16:54, 4:17:00]: everyone needs and or wants, but we believe the emergency circumstances are justified in this instance. [4:17:03, 4:17:05]: You know questions uh for the chief. [4:17:06, 4:17:07]: Or for our attorneys. [4:17:07, 4:17:15]: And I and I would like to say, if I could, Mayor, that we are requesting uh to utilize ARPA funding for the initial acquisition of these vehicles. [4:17:16, 4:17:18]: Thank you, sir. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [4:17:19, 4:17:26]: Yeah, thank you, Mayor. Um Chief, the uh when you outfit these vehicles to be ready, um [4:17:27, 4:17:32]: I know that there's a chip that this Henry County's been uh waiting on for [4:17:32, 4:17:40]: Quite a while, uh, over a year. Are we gonna be able to outfit our whi whi whatever that chip is that goes in the uh cruisers? [4:17:42, 4:17:50]: Yes, sir. The vehicles, the vehicles, uh, Councilman Blount that we're looking to receive, the chip shortage relates to the vehicle specifically. So the the the chips. [4:17:50, 4:17:54]: are a uh vehicle shortage item and uh there are um [4:17:55, 4:18:04]: delays in acquiring vehicles because of those chips, but the ones that we will be acquiring already have those included. So there will be no delays as it relates to that for us. [4:18:04, 4:18:13]: Now with now with the uh vehicles because uh how we we're getting them, the the the these vehicles, um I'm just trying to understand what is [4:18:15, 4:18:27]: What is the process here? Because I'm I'm new to this also. When we go get these fitted, uh we did we bid out the vehicles or are we bidding out the fittings when we get them fitted? Or how how's that how does that work? [4:18:29, 4:18:42]: Yeah, so we will we will uh and we have we have some lead time. We have it's not an emergency such uh for the equipment. So we will bid out the equipment, ensure we're getting the best price uh on the vehicle and um uh to include upfitting. [4:18:42, 4:18:50]: Uh that'll probably be one of the next items that we bring before council because uh there is a just a metal supply shortage in in general. [4:18:50, 4:18:58]: And um uh talking to various vendors, there's a lead time of four to twelve weeks on the acquisition of equipment once a purchase order's been cut. [4:18:59, 4:19:08]: So we definitely want to get ahead of that. We would anticipate that if we're able to do that, that we would um I guess at the latest have the equipment for the vehicles in by February. [4:19:08, 4:19:16]: And uh that would give us from February until July one uh the needed amount of time, roughly four months, to be able to upfit those vehicles with that equipment. [4:19:18, 4:19:19]: Thank you. [4:19:20, 4:19:22]: If any other questions for [4:19:23, 4:19:24]: The chief here. [4:19:24, 4:19:24]: Anybody? [4:19:27, 4:19:29]: But yes, yeah, cheese. [4:19:29, 4:19:38]: You know, I I really want to thank you, Chief, because you came to this job and you have hit the ground running. [4:19:38, 4:19:44]: And you you you obviously have done your due diligence and prepared [4:19:44, 4:19:47]: Pre arriving to the city. [4:19:47, 4:19:50]: to come because you came with the budget. [4:19:51, 4:20:05]: You came with the breakdown, you came with the analysis, you came and checked off every box that this council has put before you in terms of what's necessary for this department. [4:20:05, 4:20:17]: And with the labor crunch that we have here in America, where everybody's looking for workers, you got people knocking down your door to come to Stockbridge. [4:20:17, 4:20:23]: This is this is simply amazing to me that you have that this is where we are. [4:20:23, 4:20:25]: And we're purchasing these vehicles. [4:20:26, 4:20:27]: On state contract [4:20:28, 4:20:31]: Be pre uh they've been vent there, you know, pre vented. [4:20:31, 4:20:44]: in terms of the supplier and we know that we're receiving quality vehicles uh at a good price and in the midst like mr Blount just said Henry Kelly's been waiting on vehicles [4:20:45, 4:20:46]: Forever. [4:20:46, 4:20:49]: And yet you've been able to through your network. [4:20:49, 4:20:50]: To locate [4:20:51, 4:20:53]: All the vehicles that we need. [4:20:54, 4:21:00]: to start our police department. That's simply amazing. I mean it simply is to me. [4:21:00, 4:21:09]: And it it is just just more justification that we did the right thing uh in terms of uh of bringing you aboard because you have hit the ground running. [4:21:09, 4:21:22]: and you know, been here for such a short time, yet you followed through on every step. And one thing that this council does, and Councilman and and and Councilman Thomas and Councilwoman Barber hit on it earlier. [4:21:22, 4:21:25]: We deal with vendors and we deal with [4:21:25, 4:21:42]: suppliers every day that we can't get a report from. But you before us every time we come around, every time you come before us, you come before us with a update and you come before us with the knowledge in order to form this police department that [4:21:43, 4:21:44]: We don't have [4:21:44, 4:21:45]: But again. [4:21:45, 4:21:48]: This right here in uh being able to do what you do. [4:21:49, 4:21:55]: uh and bring this to us right now because and the one thing that i love seeing on here is that you have [4:21:56, 4:22:04]: For hybrid interceptor. And and and that's something that I've been trying to push forward. And a lot of us have been on the council that we have. [4:22:04, 4:22:08]: And then we take those first initial steps toward um [4:22:08, 4:22:17]: green energy vehicles for the city. And there's 12 of those hybrid vehicles. Could could you talk about those just a little bit on the hybrid vehicles? [4:22:20, 4:22:25]: Yes, you know, we we definitely want to make sure that uh we um [4:22:26, 4:22:37]: uh have an element of our vehicles that are green vehicles and we intentionally uh procured twenty percent of our fleet uh such that it's uh green vehicles. And what this will do is is it'll obviously save us um [4:22:37, 4:22:41]: uh in terms of fuel costs on these vehicles but um [4:22:41, 4:22:47]: uh you know even the fuel cost on the eco boost is is uh is is negligible and so all these vehicles [4:22:48, 4:22:53]: um uh for the most part get excellent gas mileage and and it will result in [4:22:53, 4:22:58]: Um not just uh cash savings but but uh obviously uh positive [4:22:58, 4:23:08]: uh things for the city in terms of uh just being being uh green and uh energy efficient in uh the utilization of our our our vehicles here for the city. [4:23:10, 4:23:20]: Okay. If nobody else has a question, I'll make the motion if that um Well Miss Barber hold stand by. Miss Barber has a question or comment of some type. Go ahead, please. [4:23:20, 4:23:31]: I have a series of questions for Chief Tramer. Chief Tramer, can you go back to that slide that shows your staffing needs? [4:23:32, 4:23:33]: Oh what she desired. [4:23:33, 4:23:36]: I know that it mentioned forty nine. [4:23:36, 4:23:38]: Okay, so that has changed. [4:23:38, 4:23:41]: Initially it was forty nine officers. [4:23:41, 4:23:42]: Um [4:23:43, 4:23:43]: That is [4:23:44, 4:23:52]: Right. So which one of these scenarios So So what we're what we're looking at and what I had mentioned earlier, and I'm sorry uh if I wasn't clear on that, is that [4:23:53, 4:24:00]: When we came up with this and I presented it to you all, what I wanted to do also was vetted through some other police experts. And we had some conversation and furthermore. [4:24:00, 4:24:07]: Uh mayors aware I've been meeting with uh local area chiefs and and uh folks in Henry County to just truly understand how we operate. [4:24:08, 4:24:15]: And so when I came up with this based on on uh what I believed to be needs, uh we determined that there were certain positions, especially [4:24:15, 4:24:18]: On the civilian side, that we did not need to stand. [4:24:18, 4:24:23]: And so we reduced those uh some of those civilian count positions. [4:24:23, 4:24:28]: And then also looked at uh the numbers based on workload analysis for investigators. [4:24:28, 4:24:35]: And really what we want to accomplish with that geographic model of policing that I talked about in the town hall. And so we made some modifications. [4:24:35, 4:24:47]: So uh the current proposal is what I just presented to you. It's 51 officers and six civilian employees. And you can see here that we're one less employee than what we were when we initially made this proposal to the council. [4:24:47, 4:24:52]: So we'd be looking at fifty-one uh sworn positions and six civilian positions. [4:24:52, 4:25:03]: Uh so we have fifty-one officers and then understand that the crime scene investigators will need a vehicle as well. That's a specialized function for the department. They have specialized equipment for processing those crime scenes. [4:25:03, 4:25:07]: Uh therefore the needs for the city will be fifty three vehicles. [4:25:07, 4:25:18]: And we need roughly about 10% extra so that if a vehicle gets crashed or it goes down or something along those lines that we're able to continue operations, which is why we've requested 60 vehicles. [4:25:19, 4:25:24]: Uh there's a need for 53, but we've requested 60 vehicles to make sure that we've accounted for. [4:25:24, 4:25:27]: Um just that that uh [4:25:27, 4:25:27]: Um [4:25:28, 4:25:35]: chance that the vehicles get wrecked or again those vehicles become uh inoperable for some reason and we can continue to maintain operation. [4:25:37, 4:25:40]: Okay, thank you for explaining that. [4:25:41, 4:25:43]: Couple of more questions. [4:25:45, 4:25:45]: So [4:25:47, 4:25:50]: You and I talked about this take home. [4:25:50, 4:25:51]: Policy. [4:25:51, 4:25:52]: For these vehicles. [4:25:54, 4:25:56]: And we talked about this offline, but I want you to [4:25:57, 4:25:59]: Please explain it publicly. [4:25:59, 4:26:00]: Um why? [4:26:01, 4:26:01]: Іч [4:26:02, 4:26:03]: Individual [4:26:03, 4:26:06]: will have their own vehicle and they will take'em home. [4:26:07, 4:26:08]: Well we'll [4:26:08, 4:26:13]: First and foremost what I wanna say is that you will find and I I'm sorry I don't have the data available, but [4:26:13, 4:26:17]: feel free to ask around, you know, other people that you know in the profession. [4:26:17, 4:26:37]: That when you have a take-home vehicle, you extend the life on that vehicle. The officers take better care of them, they take ownership of it, and you extend the life, and we don't end up having to purchase those vehicles as frequently. When you are in our line of work, we call it hot seating a vehicle, which means that that's vehicle's in operation 24/7. Those vehicles have less shelf life, they're likely to go down. [4:26:37, 4:26:48]: down a lot easier. And then we end up uh essentially where we're at right now because, you know, in three, four years, we're having to replace those vehicles because they're operating 24-7. [4:26:49, 4:26:58]: So um it really from a from a from a just a a cost standpoint, we extend the longevity with with the take-home vehicle program. [4:26:58, 4:27:16]: The other thing is it's an attractive recruitment tool. It's something that will attract people to our department and it's something that we need to remain competitive because every other agency in Henry County has a take-home vehicle program. And most agencies in the Metro Atlanta area have a take-home vehicle program. The only exceptions are some of the very large departments. [4:27:16, 4:27:21]: Uh, that that aren't able to, like say for instance, the Atlanta Police Department. They've got over two thousand employees. [4:27:21, 4:27:25]: Uh only only employees in specialized assignments are assigned take home vehicles. [4:27:25, 4:27:36]: Um and and um you know they're they're I think that really in terms of large agencies, you look at Gwinnett County Police Department has take-home vehicle program, Cobb County Police Department has a take-home vehicle program. [4:27:37, 4:27:44]: Um Henry County has a take-home vehicle program. So it's something that really is industry uh standard, but beyond the benefit. [4:27:44, 4:27:56]: Um it it it it actually there's a benefit in terms of it extending the life, the usable life of these vehicles because they're taken care of, they're not driven continuously, and um you know it ends up being a cost savings for for the city. [4:27:58, 4:28:05]: Okay, so maybe I have a different perspective because I look at it as more of a liability to the city. [4:28:05, 4:28:07]: Now I know that here county [4:28:08, 4:28:11]: PD, they do have a take home policy. [4:28:11, 4:28:12]: But I believe [4:28:12, 4:28:13]: It's restricted. [4:28:14, 4:28:14]: Um [4:28:14, 4:28:17]: to at least twenty or twenty-five miles. [4:28:19, 4:28:20]: Within the county. [4:28:21, 4:28:23]: Or outside the county. [4:28:23, 4:28:24]: So [4:28:25, 4:28:27]: How would we draft our policy? [4:28:27, 4:28:30]: To make sure that not all [4:28:30, 4:28:36]: Fifty-three of these employees are taking these vehicles an hour away. [4:28:37, 4:28:50]: Or driving fifty miles one way. Right. We we do the same thing that every other agency's done and we just make that part of our policy. This is not a decision that we have to make immediately because we're not gonna be in a position to assign vehicles for any, you know, anytime soon. [4:28:50, 4:28:56]: one of the positions that I'm seeking to hire is going to be taking care of policies and procedures. And so we will draft a policy. [4:28:56, 4:29:04]: Um that has guidelines for uh the the length that those officers uh can take those vehicles home. What we've seen. [4:29:04, 4:29:09]: is uh officers that live outside, let's say for instance the twenty mile range. [4:29:09, 4:29:29]: Is that a lot of agencies will allow them to drive it to another police department or fire station and park it there? So it's some somewhere in the middle of where they live versus where they have to commute to work. And uh, you know, that that's an advantage. So they're definitely things that we will implement. We're not going to give just just wide open discretion for people to drive, you know, 100 miles maximum. [4:29:29, 4:29:31]: and forth to work. [4:29:31, 4:29:37]: Um so we definitely will uh establish some guidelines on that, which is also probably gonna help us keep our pull. [4:29:38, 4:29:48]: of of candidates uh within our region so that we have uh folks that that are geographically situated near the city based on the requirements that we set for our take home program. [4:29:48, 4:29:52]: Awesome. You said exactly what I needed to hear. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. [4:29:54, 4:30:11]: Any other questions for the chief uh before we move on? Any other questions? Uh yes, Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please, sir. Uh Chief, I just like to reserve the opportunity to to to discuss that with you because that's one of my concerns as well. Uh briefly, I just want to ask you about [4:30:11, 4:30:13]: uh a stager [4:30:14, 4:30:15]: purchase [4:30:15, 4:30:17]: Only because I would [4:30:17, 4:30:20]: hate to think that all of these vehicle would need to be [4:30:20, 4:30:27]: uh maintenance um at the same time. Just briefly, I I I know it's time for us to move on, but [4:30:28, 4:30:34]: These are some of my concerns, but uh we can talk about this at at another point in time because it's nothing that we're really voting on, but [4:30:34, 4:30:37]: Um these are just just concerns. [4:30:39, 4:30:45]: So we can we can we can talk about these later, but I just wanted to uh express that. [4:30:45, 4:30:52]: I I thought m um Councilman Thomas, uh I was I was making a request for the acquisition of sixty vehicles at the cost of [4:30:53, 4:30:55]: two point three million dollars using ARPA fund. [4:30:57, 4:31:00]: Well, I'm just concerned about the the maintenance, but we we could talk about that. [4:31:02, 4:31:04]: All right, Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [4:31:05, 4:31:11]: Yes, I'd like for um attorney Berry to speak to um [4:31:11, 4:31:17]: this piggyback contract as opposed to us um [4:31:17, 4:31:18]: Doing a [4:31:18, 4:31:21]: advertisement or competitive bidding. [4:31:21, 4:31:29]: Uh, because I don't want the public to think that we just went out and randomly chose a dealer. So if you can [4:31:30, 4:31:35]: uh why and how we came to this piggyback contract please [4:31:36, 4:31:36]: Thank you. [4:31:39, 4:31:44]: Councilmember, thank you. Yeah, it's an emergency purchase. It's not a p piggyback. [4:31:44, 4:31:45]: It's [4:31:46, 4:31:51]: An emergency purchase uh chief trammer was able actually actually had he bought off the [4:31:52, 4:31:53]: State contract. [4:31:54, 4:31:59]: He was able to get a better deal this way than than piggybacking off the uh the state contract. [4:32:00, 4:32:04]: As I said before, and as we've put in the legislation, it's an emergency given. [4:32:04, 4:32:06]: The the city needs the vehicles. [4:32:06, 4:32:13]: It's very difficult to get the vehicles. Once he purchases, once the city purchases the vehicles, we've got to then spend up to about four months adding on. [4:32:14, 4:32:28]: the additional features. So to have the police force up and running and to have the vehicles, this needs to be done as an emergency purchase. And you know, as I said before, uh doing it this way rather than a piggyback, the city's actually saving money. [4:32:28, 4:32:32]: Okay, so can you explain why Brandon Motors [4:32:33, 4:32:35]: Was a dealer of choice. [4:32:36, 4:32:40]: That's what I'm trying to get at. So the public will know we did not. [4:32:40, 4:32:46]: circumvent any of our purchasing processes. They need to clearly understand [4:32:46, 4:32:48]: This emergency purchase. [4:32:48, 4:32:58]: Right. I well, I thought I'd just explain that, but Brandon actually has sold some vehicles off of the state contract. This is going to them and getting a better deal. [4:32:59, 4:33:00]: I [4:33:00, 4:33:08]: Yeah, the the they have sold vehicles, other police vehicles. There and the chief identified someone who already had vehicles in stock. [4:33:08, 4:33:09]: Where the city [4:33:09, 4:33:13]: will be able to get them some of these vehicles the end of the month. [4:33:13, 4:33:15]: It's not like you can, you know, like there's [4:33:15, 4:33:22]: fifteen different Honda dealerships in the metro area. There are only certain ones that sell police vehicles. [4:33:22, 4:33:25]: But it didn't come across the universe is smaller to begin with it. [4:33:26, 4:33:32]: Jeremy, it didn't come across clearly that Brandon was the approved state contract one of the approved state contract vendors. [4:33:33, 4:33:36]: You it was you were static when you were explaining it. [4:33:36, 4:33:44]: Oh sorry. I yeah, I've had to go downstairs because my kids are now asleep. So I'm away from my internet a little bit. So I may not have the best reception. [4:33:46, 4:33:48]: Jeremy, can can I [4:33:48, 4:33:50]: Yeah, just finish. [4:33:51, 4:33:55]: So so one of the things that just to answer your question, Councilwoman Barber. [4:33:55, 4:34:00]: Um a lot of there there are there are number so there are [4:34:00, 4:34:01]: Um [4:34:02, 4:34:08]: Several dealers that that that are authorized that have the current state contract and a number of other dealerships. [4:34:09, 4:34:15]: um generally piggyback off of the state contract um and uh are able to provide vehicles [4:34:15, 4:34:19]: um at that pricing uh to other law enforcement entities. [4:34:19, 4:34:30]: Uh Brandon is a is a large supplier of police vehicles. And just so that everybody has context about how we got here, and uh Mayor Pro Tem may be giving me a little bit too much credit, but just so you all know. [4:34:30, 4:34:38]: Uh, before we realized that we could use ARBA funding for the acquisition of these vehicles, we were actually exploring a lease option so that we could cut down on the capital costs. [4:34:38, 4:34:46]: of purchasing these vehicles um uh up front because we weren't sure whether or not we were gonna have that that funding to do so. [4:34:46, 4:35:06]: uh by virtue of negotiations with the only person who uh only entity at at present who can do leasing enterprise leasing, um, they work specifically with Brandon uh Motors uh to acquire their vehicles, which they lease to other police departments. The City of Roswell is a police department that leases vehicles from from enterprise as an example. [4:35:06, 4:35:15]: Uh in discussions with them, they had vehicles already in the order bank and they knew that we were getting ready to move forward with our department. [4:35:15, 4:35:20]: And uh Alec Good Faith decided, you know, we will hold sixty vehicles for you. [4:35:20, 4:35:28]: Uh, understanding that you will have a need for these. And they were okay doing that because they're not gonna have any problems selling these vehicles if we don't purchase them from them because there are hundreds. [4:35:28, 4:35:31]: of agencies that are in need of police vehicles. [4:35:31, 4:35:40]: So they've essentially held these vehicles by virtue of our conversations before I even got hired working through enterprise leasing. [4:35:40, 4:35:43]: And um that's why they have vehicles coming in sooner. [4:35:43, 4:35:54]: Uh there are other options to purchase the vehicle through state contact from contract from large uh um dealerships. As an example, Wade Ford actually holds one of these state contracts. [4:35:55, 4:36:13]: We could acquire vehicles from Wade Ford for roughly the same cost that we're getting them from Brandon. However, Wade Ford cannot guarantee that we are going to receive those vehicles, all those vehicles rather, in the time that we would need to order the equipment and have those vehicles upfitted. [4:36:13, 4:36:25]: Um, Brandon is the only dealership that we've been able to locate who will have those vehicles guaranteed within the time frame that we need to be able to get them upfitted to move forward with the police department. And so that's [4:36:25, 4:36:31]: That's in a nutshell why we have uh elected to go with Brandon. Just so you know, Locust Grove Police Department. [4:36:31, 4:36:51]: Um, they purchase their vehicles from Brandon uh under a piggyback on the state contract. So there are other agencies, and I believe I supplied that list in the documentation uh that I think was was distributed uh by you earlier, uh Mr. Berry, um, to show some of the other agencies in the Metro Atlanta area that that also are using Brandon automotive. [4:36:51, 4:37:07]: under piggyback to purchase that. To Mr. Berry's point, we're not going through piggyback because the emergency acquisition seems to be probably the most logical under the circumstances as it relates to moving forward the acquisition. So hopefully [4:37:07, 4:37:11]: Um that's answered your question. And if I misstated anything, Mr. Berry, please correct me. [4:37:14, 4:37:15]: Mr Blount, go ahead, please. [4:37:16, 4:37:27]: Yeah, Chief Tremor, so you say it that you mentioned wait for it, but you say they weren't able to guarantee. Are you saying they didn't have the vehicles that they couldn't guarantee that we would get the vehicles? [4:37:28, 4:37:34]: Um, so is the state contract under Brandon or is it under Wade and we chose Brandon because they could guarantee it? [4:37:35, 4:37:36]: Is that what you're saying? [4:37:37, 4:37:51]: Well well let me let me say this. So uh Wade Ford currently does not have these vehicles in inventory. Uh Brandon will have thirty-four vehicles at the end of the month. They're on a truck, they're ready to be dropped uh at the location, so we can guarantee that there will be thirty-four vehicles. [4:37:52, 4:37:54]: The other ones will arrive in January. [4:37:54, 4:37:59]: Um there's a good portion of vehicles uh from Wade that are that are uh scheduled. [4:37:59, 4:38:13]: And again, understanding there could be delays, because I'll tell you from my own personal experience when I worked at Georgia Tech and we were proc procuring vehicles, we were told, well, you're going to have your vehicles by this time, and it was months later after the fact. So uh there are really no guarantees. [4:38:14, 4:38:18]: Uh, with the exception of having those vehicles immediately available. So in talking with Wade Ford. [4:38:18, 4:38:34]: Uh they mentioned that they have some coming in in February, uh March timeframe. The other ones would would be here probably sometime in April, May timeframe. But again, uh what this does is put us very close to our deadline and we would not be able to guarantee receipt of all these vehicles. [4:38:34, 4:38:48]: As I said before, Brandon's the only one that I've been able to locate who can guarantee uh that we will have these vehicles in sufficient time to be able to move the department forward. So um but Chief, just real quick, just for the record. So you're saying that. [4:38:48, 4:38:56]: Brandon is the one with the state contract with I'm sorry way for it, but you chose Brandon because they could guarantee the vehicle. Is that correct? [4:38:58, 4:39:08]: There are only a few agencies that have the state contract. And just so you understand, there are a lot of dealerships to include, I believe, Legacy Ford and McDonough that will piggyback off the state contract. [4:39:09, 4:39:15]: So uh they're able to do that. Um and and that's what Brandon does is they piggyback off the current state contract. [4:39:16, 4:39:17]: Hell through eight four. [4:39:18, 4:39:20]: Does that answer your question, Councilman Blount? [4:39:21, 4:39:25]: No, I'm just saying so way four has the state contract, what I'm saying. [4:39:25, 4:39:28]: The state contract that people piggyback off of is way forward. [4:39:29, 4:39:32]: But you went with Brandon because they can guarantee the vehicles. [4:39:33, 4:39:34]: That's what I'll say. [4:39:35, 4:39:49]: I'm saying if I'm if I'm ever asked, and I and I concur with councilman bar, if I'm ever asked why we didn't do this or do that, and if Wave Ford has the state contract that people pick it back off of, but we chose Brandon, is that because Brandon could guarantee the vehicles? [4:39:50, 4:39:51]: That's correct. Yes, that's correct. [4:39:52, 4:40:00]: So the state contract that that that we would normally pick it back off of is way forward, but we chose Brendan because they could guarantee the vehicles. [4:40:01, 4:40:04]: I I believe that's that's correct. Yeah, that's what I just said. [4:40:04, 4:40:05]: So [4:40:06, 4:40:15]: But Jeremy said that we're not piggybacking. This is an emergency purchase because Brandon is the only dealer that has the vehicles available. [4:40:16, 4:40:19]: So this is the emergency purchase, not a state piggy bag. [4:40:19, 4:40:20]: Correct. Correct. [4:40:20, 4:40:21]: Thank you. [4:40:23, 4:40:25]: All right, any other questions? [4:40:25, 4:40:32]: Mayor, I uh mayor, I just want to say for my purposes and for me, for John Blount. [4:40:32, 4:40:37]: When I'm asked questions, I just want to and and I thank Chief Traymor for giving me the answers. [4:40:38, 4:40:40]: Nobody's on trial here. Nobody. [4:40:42, 4:41:02]: So when I get the answer, that's all I wanted was the answer. And that's and and Chief Tramer, thank you for giving me that answer. And that's all I want. I'm not sitting here trying to let anyone anybody else put me on trial. I just want answers because when I'm asked questions, I just want to be able to answer. [4:41:02, 4:41:02]: Simple as that. [4:41:03, 4:41:03]: All right. [4:41:03, 4:41:13]: Thanks. And and I appreciate that, Councilman Blount. I certainly want to answer your question. It was one of those things that I thought I'd answer the question, so I just had to pause for a moment to see if there was something I was missing. So I apologize. [4:41:14, 4:41:19]: No, you you're you're fine, Chief. You know, we just I just gotta always get this other stuff. That's you're fine. [4:41:20, 4:41:27]: All right. On that note, uh no other questions. I need a motion to accept this proposal. Is there a motion? So move. Is there a second? [4:41:30, 4:41:31]: Is there a second? [4:41:35, 4:41:46]: Mr. Thomas seconds that motion. Okay. I got a motion that was being made in reference to purchasing of these uh police department vehicles. All favored motion, please indicate. [4:41:47, 4:41:49]: One, two. [4:41:50, 4:41:51]: Three opposed. [4:41:53, 4:41:55]: Mr. Blount, you oppose or you abstain? [4:41:57, 4:41:58]: You're muted, sir. [4:42:00, 4:42:01]: First thing. [4:42:01, 4:42:03]: Okay, so it's three zero one. [4:42:03, 4:42:06]: And motion passes. Thank you very much. [4:42:06, 4:42:09]: Yeah, Chief Tremor, outstanding. We're gonna have some vehicles. [4:42:10, 4:42:10]: Good deal. [4:42:11, 4:42:14]: Council consideration to approve the uh [4:42:14, 4:42:28]: Recommendation of a second extended term per section four of the client services health and wellness agreement for one January 2022 through 31 January, excuse me, December 31st, 2022. Ms. Wheeler, please. [4:42:29, 4:42:31]: Um good evening, council. [4:42:31, 4:42:35]: Uh, what you have before you is a recommendation to approve the [4:42:35, 4:42:40]: Second extended term of the agreement with corporate health partners. [4:42:40, 4:42:42]: For a health and wellness program. [4:42:43, 4:42:45]: Um you were provided a [4:42:45, 4:42:46]: Uh [4:42:47, 4:42:58]: Um some information regarding some of the program highlights as it relates to the health and wellness program and the successes that have occurred with the employees. [4:42:59, 4:43:00]: And program participation. [4:43:02, 4:43:05]: So we're asking for approval of this agreement. [4:43:07, 4:43:09]: Any questions for Miss Wheeler, Council? [4:43:11, 4:43:16]: If there are no questions in a motion to approve this particular proposal, there are a motion. [4:43:19, 4:43:20]: Is there a motion? [4:43:23, 4:43:25]: Okay, no motion. [4:43:26, 4:43:33]: Questions? Yeah, questions and yes. Talk about it a little bit. Tell them what [4:43:33, 4:43:41]: Well, in the twenty twenty-one year, the program highlights is that we had ninety-four point seven percent um participation. [4:43:41, 4:43:43]: Um, half of the employees. [4:43:44, 4:43:47]: have attended or have been engaged in the healthy break. [4:43:47, 4:43:50]: uh breaks that we have had were there monthly [4:43:50, 4:43:53]: Um programs for [4:43:53, 4:43:57]: The employees to improve their health and wellness. [4:43:57, 4:44:04]: Um, the city of Stockbridge participated in the first city health challenge with various cities throughout Metro Atlanta. [4:44:05, 4:44:10]: And we came in fifth. Our we had five employees that uh participated and [4:44:11, 4:44:12]: um in that program. [4:44:13, 4:44:14]: We have [4:44:14, 4:44:16]: Utilized um [4:44:17, 4:44:25]: Have re reduced some of the high-risk areas, which is our obesity, diabetes, and hypertension. [4:44:26, 4:44:31]: And in twenty twenty to twenty twenty one, of the sixty members that participated in the cohort. [4:44:32, 4:44:36]: The high risk decreased from fifty eight point three percent to fifty five percent. [4:44:37, 4:44:40]: And the low risk remained at sixteen point seven. [4:44:40, 4:44:41]: Percent. [4:44:41, 4:44:45]: The areas of concentration where we need room for improvement. [4:44:45, 4:44:48]: Will be in weight management and diabetes management. [4:44:48, 4:44:50]: And if you look at the [4:44:50, 4:44:51]: Um [4:44:52, 4:44:56]: the the slide presentation that you were provided. [4:44:56, 4:44:58]: We had um [4:44:59, 4:45:07]: Some great numbers that show that even the city of Stockbridge is below the national average for prediabetes and hypertension. [4:45:08, 4:45:13]: Again, we're going back and looking deeply into the opportunities of [4:45:13, 4:45:15]: Diabetes management. [4:45:15, 4:45:24]: obesity, which will do a weight management program, and tobacco use, because we're still high in those areas according to the national average. [4:45:27, 4:45:33]: Blood sugar levels for employees were low. It went from forty-seven point eight percent to forty-four percent. [4:45:33, 4:45:38]: Obesity was reduced from fifty three point seven percent to fifty one percent. [4:45:38, 4:45:43]: And cholesterol levels were reduced from thirty-five point eight percent to thirty-three percent. [4:45:45, 4:45:48]: There has been a number of culture and engagement. [4:45:48, 4:45:50]: Um engagements for the employees. [4:45:50, 4:45:53]: We had healthy breaks on financial preparedness. [4:45:54, 4:45:58]: sleep health, retirement and estate planning, and boosting immunity. [4:45:59, 4:46:05]: Our challenges that we had this year for the employees were the city challenge, a virtual 5K. [4:46:06, 4:46:09]: The one in November will be maintain, don't gain. [4:46:10, 4:46:13]: And then snooze or lose, but we try to deal with sleep. [4:46:13, 4:46:16]: Um habits of individuals. [4:46:19, 4:46:21]: The employee experience. [4:46:21, 4:46:33]: has been um pretty good. Um 90% in September of 2021, so a benefit for the wellness program versus 86% in December of 2020. [4:46:33, 4:46:37]: Um, ninety percent have participated in wellness events. [4:46:38, 4:46:38]: Um [4:46:38, 4:46:41]: Eighty seven percent in December of twenty twenty. [4:46:41, 4:46:44]: Find health coaching to be motivational, eighty percent. [4:46:45, 4:46:47]: In twenty twenty one of September. [4:46:47, 4:46:51]: Um eighty percent believe their health awareness has improved. [4:46:51, 4:46:59]: And believe ninety percent have believed their health has improved overall since they've been a part of the health and wellness program. [4:47:00, 4:47:04]: And there have been some kudos given to our health coaches. [4:47:04, 4:47:09]: The health coach is full of good suggestions and offers solutions to life challenges. [4:47:09, 4:47:13]: They want to thank us for the check ins. This is more than just a job for you. We feel [4:47:14, 4:47:15]: The love and appreciate it. [4:47:16, 4:47:22]: And and some of the employees said, I just wanted to simply say thank you for everything. I know that it's your job, but you do it with class. [4:47:22, 4:47:25]: And then the program allows participants to stay engaged. [4:47:26, 4:47:28]: About being mindful of their health. [4:47:28, 4:47:31]: Where they may have been inclined to fall short. [4:47:32, 4:47:35]: Our plans for the twenty twenty two plant program year. [4:47:35, 4:47:40]: will be the continual improvement in offering healthy breaks with guest speakers. [4:47:40, 4:47:43]: Further promote the my wellness site. [4:47:43, 4:47:47]: And my well app features to increase overall engagement of employees. [4:47:47, 4:47:53]: Offer a live better, feel better weight management class, and set up monthly and bi-monthly touch points. [4:47:56, 4:48:00]: And shaking up some of the healthy breaks, we will bring in more guest speakers. [4:48:01, 4:48:07]: Um, CHP has a diabetes specialist to present a diabetes management and prevention program. [4:48:08, 4:48:11]: And there will be a health coach to present on building a better brain. [4:48:11, 4:48:14]: We will continue with our take care of your mental health. [4:48:15, 4:48:18]: Blood pressure healthy uh break. [4:48:18, 4:48:22]: In financial wellness that we've partnered with uh P and C Bank. [4:48:22, 4:48:29]: And we brought in GMA also to talk about our retirement planning for our employees. [4:48:30, 4:48:41]: There will be a continual platform enhancement where employees can call in and ask an expert expert on anything that they may feel they want to talk about, which will be launched. [4:48:41, 4:48:43]: In January of twenty twenty two. [4:48:44, 4:48:50]: And there will be regular touch points for effective communications between myself and. [4:48:50, 4:48:57]: um CHP on any type of information that we need to bring forward to our employees on a regular basis. [4:48:58, 4:49:02]: In the agreement, we also do risk assessments, biometric screenings. [4:49:02, 4:49:09]: They provide us with a management report. We have incentive management where we give our prizes to employees that. [4:49:09, 4:49:13]: compete in the various challenges and any of the healthy breaks. [4:49:13, 4:49:22]: They get 30 minute one-on-one coaching, individual coaching by a health coach to help them improve on any areas that they deem necessary. [4:49:24, 4:49:27]: And also they're afforded a weekly meal plan. [4:49:27, 4:49:30]: And also a monthly newsletter every month. [4:49:31, 4:49:36]: on various topics that uh we've that are necessary for health and wellness. [4:49:36, 4:49:40]: Ms. Thank you. So I'm gonna look at finish up. Thank you so much. [4:49:40, 4:49:54]: Uh, for the statistic. How m how much money would you anticipate this saves for us uh on our insurance costs or does it have a relative concern uh savings for the city for participation? [4:49:55, 4:50:06]: Well, we hoped that it would have a savings on the city, on the city claims forms, but as you know, this year our claims were kind of high because we had certain [4:50:06, 4:50:07]: Um [4:50:09, 4:50:18]: I won't say diseases, but certain medical issues with some of our employees that were issues that were beyond our control. [4:50:18, 4:50:23]: But in reducing the tobacco use when you can do that and when you [4:50:23, 4:50:30]: You can re um reduce your tobacco use from twenty-eight percent to twenty-five to nineteen percent. [4:50:30, 4:50:38]: Um to 28 to 25%. That's a big deal for the number of employees that are participating in the program. [4:50:38, 4:50:46]: Our obesity, you know, we did a good number on reducing obesity. So it does have an effect on long-term. [4:50:46, 4:50:48]: Claims because we are able [4:50:48, 4:50:50]: To prevent health disease. [4:50:50, 4:50:55]: We're able to manage if we can get the diabetes under control with diabetes management. [4:50:56, 4:51:01]: We can help employees regulate their medication, find out what kind of medication they on. [4:51:01, 4:51:09]: Work with their doctors and be uh and they will be aware of what it is that they're doing, what they need to do in order to reduce. [4:51:09, 4:51:10]: Dear [4:51:11, 4:51:15]: those those numbers that they have that keep them at a high risk. [4:51:15, 4:51:18]: We've done well with pre diabetes and hypertension. [4:51:19, 4:51:22]: So that means the wellness program is working towards. [4:51:22, 4:51:25]: Getting those numbers down and getting those employees healthier. [4:51:27, 4:51:28]: I wonder [4:51:28, 4:51:31]: Yes, sir. Okay, Councilman Blanc, go ahead, please. [4:51:32, 4:51:34]: Mr. Alexander, was he finished? [4:51:34, 4:51:36]: Yeah, I think he's done. Yes. [4:51:36, 4:51:39]: Uh Ms. Wheeler, thank you for presenting that. Um [4:51:41, 4:51:42]: A lot of the uh [4:51:42, 4:51:46]: the the the uh programs that you guys had coming through this. [4:51:46, 4:51:50]: I wasn't able to attend, but I was able to get the literature from those. [4:51:50, 4:52:01]: And it was very, very informative. I'm talking about that is uh I would tell I would send that the stuff that they was doing with that program and uh incentives from it and and just even from a health standpoint. [4:52:02, 4:52:16]: uh was very, very good, uh very helpful for in in so many different areas. We even when you talk about diabetes, you talk about high blood pressure, you talk about cholesterol, all these things very informative. I think it I think the city needs that. [4:52:16, 4:52:36]: Uh we had situations that was, you know, uh out of our control this year. But I think overall this program has been excellent. I mean, I've seen and talked to many of the instructors that have come through, and uh they have the the literature I've gotten from them and information I've gotten from them, even as an elected official, has been very beneficial. So, mayor would probably [4:52:36, 4:52:42]: For me, for that being said, I like the motion to approve the health and wellness uh program continue with the city. [4:52:42, 4:52:43]: Good deal, so a second. [4:52:44, 4:52:48]: Second. Mayor for temp second dad. Okay. All in favor, please indicate. [4:52:49, 4:52:53]: Okay. I got uh m uh Miss Barber, did you vote? [4:52:55, 4:52:57]: Barber, did you vote? I got three votes. Did you vote, ma'am? [4:52:58, 4:53:02]: I'm abstaining and I'm abstaining because this is the [4:53:03, 4:53:05]: All right, three zero second extension. [4:53:05, 4:53:06]: And I like [4:53:06, 4:53:08]: If I can add this [4:53:09, 4:53:10]: The calm. [4:53:10, 4:53:18]: I like to extend these. I don't like to extend these. I'd rather see them bitted out after one extension. [4:53:18, 4:53:19]: All right. [4:53:19, 4:53:34]: 301 motion passed. Thank you, Ms. Wheeler. Thank you. You're welcome. Council consideration approved sister city relationship with uh Afika. Afika. Oh my. Cabri South District of Ghana. [4:53:34, 4:53:53]: A sister city relationship and form a long-term agreement that involves the commitment of resources to achieve specific goals, sister city arrangements, promote cultural, educational, and economic exchanges to generate development between the two communities. The primary aim is establishing a sister city relationship with the Alfica. [4:53:54, 4:54:09]: Cobra, South District of Ghana is to foster mutual beneficial connections that will bring new businesses, tourism, and span the cultural footprint on both sides of the world. Mr. Peterson, please, and and and tell me how to pronounce this because I'm all messed up here. [4:54:10, 4:54:13]: Oh good. Yes, sir. It's um a Fiji. [4:54:13, 4:54:18]: Of your own. Yes, sir. Uh yes, yes. Um good evening, council member and [4:54:18, 4:54:38]: and uh city and staff. Um I'm here to present a sister city relationship um and it will expand our economic development footprint globally. Um as many of you all know the city of Atlanta has 17 sister cities and that does not include their regional alliances. [4:54:38, 4:54:50]: So sister cities are a huge deal in Georgia. We do not have a sister city here in Stockbridge, and there is not a sister city. [4:54:50, 4:54:52]: in uh Henry County. [4:54:52, 4:54:55]: So this would certainly uh set us apart. There is a [4:54:55, 4:55:00]: economic and a cultural and a geographic advantage to having a sister city. [4:55:01, 4:55:01]: Um [4:55:02, 4:55:10]: Without further ado, I'm going to have the consultant I've been dealing with, Miss Samuel, present. She has a very detailed presentation. [4:55:10, 4:55:13]: And I before she starts, I do want to point out. [4:55:13, 4:55:17]: That the cost is already in the department budget. [4:55:17, 4:55:22]: But uh Miss Samuel, if you can go ahead and present and share your screen, please. [4:55:23, 4:55:32]: No problem. Thank you, Dr. Peterson. Evening, Mayor and Council members. I'm losing my voice a little bit tonight, so excuse me. Let me share my screen. [4:55:53, 4:56:00]: Mayor. Yes, sir. While she repa prepares that, um, may I ask Mr. Peterson a question? Sir, go right ahead. [4:56:00, 4:56:09]: My my question is, and I and I talked to you before, uh, Ms. Peterson, and I understand City of Atlanta because of their footprint, have an international uh [4:56:09, 4:56:13]: uh relations uh ships with with uh on that level [4:56:14, 4:56:28]: But you mentioned there's not anything like this in Henry County. I I don't know of any city outside around our size that has those type of relationships. Are there any cities you know of around our size that has that type of relationship with sister cities? [4:56:28, 4:56:29]: Uh yes, make it. [4:56:30, 4:56:31]: Making does. [4:56:31, 4:56:51]: Also, um Decatur and the Cab County, they have two sister cities. When you're talking actually, if the Cab well see the Cab County doesn't fit the size of City of Stockbridge, nor does make and be fit the size of the city of Stockbridge. When you're talking make and bill, you're talking about a big vast area. When you're talking to Cab County, you're talking a big vast. I'm talking about a [4:56:51, 4:56:57]: a city our size right sister cities. Yeah. Decatur is a smaller city. [4:56:59, 4:57:03]: Decatur and Decab, they're they're a smaller city and they have three. [4:57:03, 4:57:10]: sister cities. The the the cab the decatur. Decatur. Decatur. The city of Decatur in Decab County. [4:57:12, 4:57:16]: Okay. I think we just lost our our um guest there. [4:57:17, 4:57:19]: I don't see it. I don't see her anymore. [4:57:20, 4:57:21]: All right, let me [4:57:23, 4:57:26]: Go ahead. Oh, there she is. Okay, there we go. [4:57:27, 4:57:30]: You disappeared on us for Samuel. Yeah, don't scare us like that. [4:57:31, 4:57:37]: All right. Uh no co now we need to share your screen. So see if we can get this. Oh, there we go. Looks like oh [4:57:39, 4:57:41]: Okay. Do I need to share my screen? [4:57:42, 4:57:45]: Well, if if you have the same presentation, okay there we go. Okay, there it is. [4:57:55, 4:57:57]: We can see it. Um [4:58:02, 4:58:05]: Okay. [4:58:09, 4:58:12]: We can see your screen. We can see your screen. [4:58:15, 4:58:16]: Is she still muted? [4:58:16, 4:58:20]: I don't know if she's I can't see. Well let me see here. Let me move this. [4:58:20, 4:58:40]: Okay, you can hear me now? Yeah, we can hear you now. There you go. All right, perfect. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Of course, right at the last minute, my system preferences blocked me out. Okay, we're back. Um, I wanted to start by kind of defining sister cities. Um it's a city or district that will enter into a formal relationship with Stockbridge, Georgia, um, through a sister city agreement. It's like an M. [4:58:40, 4:58:41]: M O U [4:58:41, 4:58:46]: It is not anything that locks either city into the relationship and it can be dissolved at any moment. [4:58:47, 4:58:48]: So I wanted to make sure I clarified that. [4:58:49, 4:58:57]: Um, it's a formal long-term agreement. It's a commitment of resources to achieve specific goals. So essentially it's whatever we make it. [4:58:57, 4:59:03]: This proposal kind of outlines the different aspects of the agreement that we need to. [4:59:03, 4:59:10]: kind of establish or look towards in order to establish this with the Afija Kwabre district in Kumasi Ghana. [4:59:10, 4:59:13]: The primary aim is to establish the relationship. [4:59:13, 4:59:23]: between the Fiji Quabre district in Kumasi Ghana and Stockbridge in order to promote business opportunities, tourism, and expand the cultural footprint on both sides of the world. [4:59:24, 4:59:27]: I wanted to talk a little bit about the district of within Kumasi. [4:59:28, 4:59:31]: Um, their population is actually a hundred and sixteen thousand. [4:59:32, 4:59:36]: They're one of two hundred and sixty metropolitan municipal and district assemblies in Ghana. [4:59:37, 4:59:39]: Um in areas of mutual interest. [4:59:39, 4:59:48]: Tourism, business attraction, and business expansion. And then I just put that little graphic so you can kind of see where it's located in Ghana. [4:59:49, 5:00:09]: I just kind of wanted to talk about myself a little bit, very briefly. I know it's late. That this will, in terms of deliverables, you all will receive briefs detailing the program design, implementation process, any metrics, and the results and outcomes of those, attendance sheets, narratives, quotes from particular. [5:00:09, 5:00:15]: Participants, follow-up commentary, suggestions for allgoing ongoing programming and development. [5:00:15, 5:00:24]: Any invoices, detailing services, rendered and dates, and ongoing check-ins throughout the process, ensuring we're adding value and adjusting as needed. [5:00:26, 5:00:35]: Little bit about myself. My master's of science is in educational psychology, educational administration, curriculum development. [5:00:35, 5:00:44]: I work at a software company and I actually live in my home. And this picture is my home in Ghana. So I actually live in the district in Ghana. I live between there and Atlanta. [5:00:47, 5:01:07]: Comparable projects that I've done before, I did one in Bahia, Brazil. It was through a Fulbright with Morehouse in partnership with the Steve Biko Cultural Institute. We were looking at the intersection of culture and education, looking to reduce crime rates within the community and improve educational outcomes with standardized testing. I also did a project with Beijing, China. [5:01:07, 5:01:20]: China and the University College of London. It was a book bridge program. And they also had some very tangible outcomes. And then this will be my third with two major cities. So I just kind of wanted to speak to that a bit. [5:01:21, 5:01:41]: And then talk about the successes. So I've been doing projects with the honorable Christian Dupoku. He is actually the mayor on that end. This is a picture of himself and I. We've been meeting. He's really excited about this opportunity to work with the city of Stockbridge. Um, he sees a lot of opportunity for growth on both sides. And I have a couple of quotes from him. [5:01:41, 5:01:44]: I I work with Silvia Humberto in Bahia Brazil. [5:01:45, 5:01:48]: I have a quote from him, and then I worked with Fulton County. [5:01:48, 5:01:51]: School system. I also work with Clayton County school system. [5:01:53, 5:02:02]: This relationship will create community support systems, programs, and initiatives that will positively impact the socioeconomic development of both cities. [5:02:03, 5:02:15]: Transform Stockbridge into an international city by supporting local cultural centers, virtual forums, food and music festivals, and bolstering the connection between the diverse population, Stockbridge citizens overall. [5:02:16, 5:02:24]: It can also attract new businesses and support existing businesses. And finally, facilitate a pipeline between Stockbridge, Georgia, and Kumasi in Ghana. [5:02:27, 5:02:37]: Okay, so I went ahead and thought about um working with Dr. Peterson. What are some programs that I think can add value to Stockbridge and some of your strategic designs? [5:02:37, 5:02:40]: um that I've I was able to have access to that were published to the public. [5:02:41, 5:02:45]: And I came up with about three or four programs that I think could really benefit [5:02:46, 5:02:57]: Stockbridge through this relationship. But of course, this relationship is whatever we make it. So I want to clarify that. This one is an annual flagship SMB, small to medium business program. [5:02:57, 5:03:13]: Um, and this is towards developing and supporting businesses in Stockbridge. So the City of Stockbridge would select 10 minority SMB business owners for this program to assist entrepreneurs and small to medium-sized business owners with scaling and sustaining their businesses. [5:03:13, 5:03:18]: So they can thrive. This can work in partnership. Um [5:03:18, 5:03:29]: with another organization. This can work directly with the business owners. We can assist them with launching their business, scaling their business, sourcing products, and maintaining their business. This would also culminate [5:03:30, 5:03:31]: With an actual [5:03:31, 5:03:41]: trip to our sister city in Kumasi, Ghana. And then those expenses, some of those expenses which actu would would actually be incurred by the business itself. [5:03:45, 5:03:57]: Here are some measurements and metrics that could come from that. We could have participant feedback, program completion rate, participants with positive business growth, leads converted, increase in sales. [5:03:59, 5:04:17]: I have another one. This one is Sister City Saturdays creating the bridge. And we looked at this a couple of different ways, really wanted to see how we could use kind of the city center of Stock Bridge and get more people in the area thinking about food trucks and different festivals we can. [5:04:17, 5:04:18]: Do [5:04:19, 5:04:27]: In lieu or in light of the sister city relationship. So it can be about Ghana, but it can also be just about different cultures within the diaspora. [5:04:28, 5:04:30]: Um kind of highlighting the sister city relationship. [5:04:30, 5:04:32]: Again, another program. [5:04:32, 5:04:37]: That can further the sister city relationship to more tangible goals and outcomes for Stockbridge. [5:04:38, 5:04:44]: We also work in partnership with a incubator program called 100K Incubator. [5:04:44, 5:05:03]: And uh they do some really exciting things. Um, I would love to talk about them a little bit later, but we work in partnership with them to really support your businesses and they have really, really great outcomes of helping businesses scale. And they would do this, they also work um through Kumasu Ghana. So we would be able to do that on this side. [5:05:04, 5:05:06]: And this side for a lot of our business owners. [5:05:07, 5:05:18]: They specifically have helped women and minority business owners access more than$8 million in capital through their incubator program. So I just wanted to highlight them as one of our partners. [5:05:19, 5:05:35]: Attract and retain business. We can also work with the community, the city of Stockbridge to promote this relationship to look at attracting local and foreign businesses, identify space and opportunities for local and foreign businesses to call Stockbridge, Georgia their home. [5:05:35, 5:05:55]: Attract entrepreneurial conferences, social media meetups, influencer tours, and more. I don't know if you all are aware, but a lot of our social media influencers that are now on the market, they're coming out of West Africa. And they're looking for cities, specifically and especially around the perimeter of Atlanta. [5:05:55, 5:06:01]: To come and bring their festivals, their conferences, and their tours. So it's another opportunity. [5:06:03, 5:06:13]: I also went ahead and added some, sorry about that, measurements and data that we can collect about event participations, participant feedback, impressions. [5:06:14, 5:06:17]: And then we have an urban health and community development. [5:06:17, 5:06:37]: And if you all are familiar with this concept of the blue zones coined by Dan Butner, and they're these zones, especially within cities like Stockbridge, where people live healthy and happy lives. And they have very tangible reasons why this happens. One is a trust for their government, one is access to healthcare. [5:06:37, 5:06:46]: Several different metrics. And this is something that we can intentionally support in Stockbridge as well as in Kumasi simultaneously. [5:06:48, 5:06:51]: And lastly, a parent training and support program. [5:06:51, 5:07:06]: Um, I am currently at the final stage in partnership with Morrow School of Medicine and SNAP, which stands for Statewide Network Among Partners for Parents and Caregivers, as a grant to support healthy parent-child relationships. We're finalizing a [5:07:07, 5:07:08]: Um curriculum. [5:07:08, 5:07:16]: That supports healthy parent and children relationships. And this is something that we can also use within this relationship. [5:07:17, 5:07:31]: Lastly, um, looking at some economic impact, increase the health and well-being for the families, increase positive parenting experiences and practices. Um, and we also have some metrics associated with this. Everything that we would do in Stockbridge would be. [5:07:32, 5:07:38]: jointly also conducted in our Kumasi sister city um arena. So we would have [5:07:39, 5:07:47]: The both organizations, both communities speaking to each other, we would have virtual events, hopefully annually. I know Macon has spoken to this. They take [5:07:48, 5:07:54]: people over to A Elmina in Ghana actually to promote this relationship. [5:07:56, 5:08:16]: I wanted to talk about the process and next steps if you all decide to move forward. So the relationship on their side is already established. They understand Stockbridge. I've been speaking to them about it. They're very excited. And then next is establishing an MOU an agreement that both cities say they are in agreement that they will be a sister city. [5:08:17, 5:08:22]: And then from there, once the relationship is formally established, we can decide on what this looks like. [5:08:24, 5:08:43]: I wanted to talk about some wins. We've donated over$125,000 worth of supplies to schools in Kumasi, supported over 150, excuse me, 150 travelers across groups, supported a book tour, built bathrooms for local schools, facilitated the sale of plots of land, and many, many more. [5:08:45, 5:09:04]: And then I wanted to talk about Georgia's progress. I heard a question asking, I was coming off the call. Apologies for that. About the size of Stockbridge and you know its value and work to Stockbridge. Um, so I did want to speak to Atlanta, does have 17 sister city relationships. They have a whole council dedicated to it. They have a lot of information. [5:09:04, 5:09:24]: um about it in a lot of their outcomes. For the most part, these relationships are kind of altruistic. There's a cultural experience. But they there are a lot of organizations now looking at how revenue is increased coming from these relationships, mainly because of exposure and awareness through these festivals. [5:09:24, 5:09:25]: In programming. [5:09:29, 5:09:38]: And I wanted to talk about Making Georgia. That was the one I wanted to highlight. They have one with Elmina in Ghana. They also have one in Japan, Russia, and Taiwan. [5:09:38, 5:09:40]: Um, as well as France. [5:09:40, 5:09:45]: And then they kind of talked about what that process looked like for them. I looked at Kennesaw and Cobb County. [5:09:46, 5:09:52]: Um, and they also they are currently exploring sister city relationships. They have been voting on it recently. [5:09:53, 5:10:13]: And then I wanted to talk about why Ghana, the IMF, selected Ghana as one of Africa's fastest growing economies. And I don't it on social media, Ghana's kind of having its day in the sunshine as well. It's where everybody is looking. The tourism that is going heading to Ghana has increased since COVID. [5:10:13, 5:10:14]: Which is very interesting. [5:10:14, 5:10:32]: Um, and speaking of COVID, another one of the ways that these sister city relationships have benefited cities is during this time, a lot of cities had the conversations of how they were able to support their cities dealing with this health crisis. So this relationship can expand and blossom into whatever we make it. [5:10:37, 5:10:40]: Okay, I am back. Can you all still hear me? [5:10:40, 5:10:52]: Yes, we can. Okay. And that concludes my presentation. I just kind of wanted I wanted to speak to the slides and the possibilities. I'm really excited. Um, and I would love to hear any questions if you have any. [5:10:53, 5:11:13]: It's very interesting to me, I tell you. This is quite a quite a in uh inventor, I should say, that uh we'd want to possibly take on. So I I I I think it's great this aspect. But uh yeah, different, different, different and a and a good opportunity. I've never been to uh Ghana, been to North Africa, but not Ghana. [5:11:13, 5:11:20]: But anyway, um any questions uh uh counsel and Mr. Peterson, do you have anything you need to add, sir, at this time? [5:11:21, 5:11:31]: Uh no, I I don't have anything that I would like to add. I would just like for um Ms. Samu to just go over those uh next steps again if it is approved by council. [5:11:33, 5:11:47]: Okay. Yeah, go ahead, Ms. Thomas, please. Dr. Peterson, I know you said it was covered in your budget. Um what is the cost for this for this partnership? [5:11:48, 5:11:51]: The cost, the initial cost is fifty five hundred. [5:11:52, 5:11:54]: It's in my professional services line item. [5:11:55, 5:11:58]: Uh, that is dedicated for consultants. Um [5:11:58, 5:12:03]: And that would cover the initial fee of setting up the agreement. [5:12:03, 5:12:04]: Um [5:12:04, 5:12:23]: And as Ms. As Ms. Samuel said, uh the agreement is what we make it. Once that cost is paid, we can form those programs how we want it, how we want. The programs that she listed are just some examples of programs that we came up with. Those are not concrete or set in stone. [5:12:25, 5:12:27]: So are there any projected? [5:12:27, 5:12:30]: cost going forward once it is set up. [5:12:31, 5:12:40]: Yes, the the programs that she listed, uh those have cost to them. Now we would of course uh review, I will look at the look at my [5:12:41, 5:12:50]: uh 2022 budget, uh look at those, of course try to get the the cost shaved down. We would also look at the business community to see how many of them want to get involved as well. [5:12:51, 5:12:52]: So all of that. [5:12:53, 5:13:04]: would uh would be a factor in deciding what programs we adopt if we do in fact those programs. We can also uh edit those programs um if if we get to that point. [5:13:04, 5:13:07]: I thank you. [5:13:07, 5:13:11]: Mr. Blank, go ahead. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. Mr. Peterson, first of all, um [5:13:12, 5:13:28]: Ms. Samuel, thank you for your presentation. Uh Ms. Peasan, I talked to you um the other day about this and and I and I I think I'm still at a loss too uh because you say the initial cost is 5500 and then whatever was [5:13:28, 5:13:33]: It seemed like a program that's set up that we're we're we're not implementing, we're supporting. [5:13:34, 5:13:36]: Uh no we but [5:13:37, 5:13:38]: I'm sorry, go ahead. [5:13:39, 5:13:44]: Oh, go go ahead. I'm sorry, go ahead. It it's it sound like something that we're we're basically supporting. [5:13:45, 5:14:01]: uh whatever programs come up come about because you just told me you two came up with uh whatever the programs we just saw. So whatever's been laid out, you guys are now laying out the foundation for. So I mean and like I've told you before, I I know that you have certain monies in your budget. [5:14:02, 5:14:12]: But I just for me, I'm about I'm just trying to see what really makes sense with this and how it would support our city of Stockbridge. And I'm first supporting. [5:14:13, 5:14:32]: uh any program that help people i i'm i'm i'm down with that period and mayor if you haven't been to ghana just uh just kind of close your eyes and go to the west end for a little while uh but okay something similar but okay but but i'm just trying to say that i'm just trying to figure out whether this [5:14:33, 5:14:53]: You know, you say because now I'm hearing this initial its initial consult consultation uh amount, which is fifty five hundred. So where did this go and where did this take us? I'm just tr and that's where the disconnect coming in for me is I'm just trying to figure out where do we go from there? Because there's nothing [5:14:53, 5:14:53]: Mm. [5:14:54, 5:15:07]: that you're giving me that you guys haven't just thought of, but where does it take us? And if the council chooses to go ahead and support it, that's fine. But I'm just trying to figure out make sense on where do we go and how that this supports us as this city. [5:15:08, 5:15:12]: How you know how how do we fit in as a city of Stockbridge? [5:15:12, 5:15:16]: And is it it is is it a just a supporting agency for [5:15:17, 5:15:23]: Ghana, uh helping Ghana to establish whatever that you guys are doing. I I I'm I'm I guess I'm missing something. [5:15:24, 5:15:32]: Well, no, it's uh both both cities would benefit in the presentation. Uh Ms. Samuel talked about all the programs that we established. [5:15:32, 5:15:50]: that that we already put together and established for those small businesses. Now, of course, we would look at those programs. We would join this sister city relationship with our business recruitment and retention committee and speak to the business owners and come up with more specific programs. [5:15:51, 5:16:00]: That could help the businesses as well. But it it is, you know, it it's what we make it. I've spoken to the Georgia Department of Economic Development. [5:16:00, 5:16:06]: um about their role with with uh with the sister cities. I've also spoken to [5:16:06, 5:16:21]: the uh diplomacy and external affairs department with the city of Atlanta, who handles all of their sister city relationships. So once we get ours established, we'll meet, we'll speak again and we can put something together, maybe partner with them. [5:16:21, 5:16:25]: But uh as far as the fifty five hundred, that's the cost for the consultant. [5:16:25, 5:16:27]: Uh to set it up. [5:16:27, 5:16:29]: А мессамуел билпин. [5:16:29, 5:16:32]: uh put together whatever programs we decide. [5:16:32, 5:16:33]: She would be the liaison. [5:16:34, 5:16:34]: Between [5:16:35, 5:16:36]: Us and Ghana. [5:16:37, 5:16:38]: But um [5:16:38, 5:16:40]: Go ahead, Councilmember Blount. [5:16:40, 5:16:42]: No, no, I'm listening to you. No. [5:16:42, 5:16:42]: Yeah. [5:16:44, 5:16:48]: No, I'm listening to you. No, I wasn't in the justice. No, no, I wasn't in the jeting. [5:16:48, 5:17:02]: Yes, that well that that 5,500 would uh would would be Ms. Samuel's fee. She would serve as as the liaison between the city of Stockbridge and Ghana. She would of course play a critical role in putting together those programs as well. [5:17:02, 5:17:03]: So that's [5:17:06, 5:17:15]: All right. Earlier, um, Miss Samuel, you were going to add some additional comments. Uh uh go right ahead, please, if you had some additional comments that you needed to mention at this time. [5:17:16, 5:17:33]: If you have anything else. Apologies, Mayor. If I did, I don't remember what they were at this time. Okay. Um, I think I was just gonna speak to other relationships around Georgia, but I did address that with um Macon and then I signed off when I was in the middle of a thought earlier. But I think I can see it. Thank you. [5:17:34, 5:17:35]: Okay, no problem. Mr. Thomas, go ahead, sir. [5:17:36, 5:17:38]: Yeah, could you indicate um [5:17:39, 5:17:41]: How many citizens are in [5:17:41, 5:17:45]: Henry County, City of Stock Ridge in the metro area. [5:17:45, 5:17:48]: uh that we will be able to [5:17:48, 5:17:50]: Um a track. [5:17:50, 5:17:52]: And coming to Stark Bridge. [5:17:53, 5:17:58]: uh for any of these projects uh as we go forward. What what is that population? [5:17:58, 5:18:00]: Uh in the metro area. [5:18:03, 5:18:10]: I uh okay, I don't know if there who's uh who's willing to answer that. I don't know if they quite understand the question here. [5:18:11, 5:18:19]: Council Member Thomas, I don't I don't fully under understand. Okay, citizens what what citizens that come from the regions of Ghana, what do you what [5:18:19, 5:18:22]: Is that how how do you pronounce [5:18:22, 5:18:25]: Uh citizens formerly from Guyana. [5:18:26, 5:18:27]: And they [5:18:27, 5:18:31]: Okay. So how how many of them that reside in [5:18:31, 5:18:33]: Henry County or the Metro area. [5:18:34, 5:18:36]: Just trying to look at a base of people. [5:18:37, 5:18:40]: That we would possibly attract to. [5:18:40, 5:18:45]: uh the set of styarbridge for any uh joint venture that we may be partnering with. [5:18:49, 5:18:55]: Council member, I don't know the number of how many Ghanaians, but I can tell you um based on the [5:18:56, 5:18:58]: Amount of West Africans if you're asking for that. [5:18:59, 5:19:03]: I can more so give you a number of West Africans, but I don't know specific. [5:19:03, 5:19:04]: Tughana. [5:19:04, 5:19:10]: Yeah. Um which is why I was saying a lot of the programming would not be specific to Ghana because that would minimize. [5:19:11, 5:19:12]: a population we're looking at. [5:19:13, 5:19:16]: Um to such a small number. So it would have to be the diaspora. [5:19:16, 5:19:18]: And I would open it up to even more than Africa. [5:19:19, 5:19:20]: It would just highlight the relationship. [5:19:21, 5:19:23]: But it wouldn't make sense to only highlight Ghana. [5:19:23, 5:19:30]: Um, because I don't think the numbers would make sense. Right. Well, the thing that attracts me when you talked about uh tourism. [5:19:30, 5:19:31]: Um but [5:19:32, 5:19:32]: Mm-hmm. [5:19:33, 5:19:35]: Hopefully we can we can sort of um [5:19:35, 5:19:39]: follow up with this program, but I I did want to sort of get into the [5:19:39, 5:19:44]: tourism aspect of it, but as you mentioned, it is it is sort of late and [5:19:44, 5:19:46]: I can tell everybody's pretty tired. [5:19:49, 5:19:51]: All right, any other questions uh for Miss Samuel? [5:19:53, 5:20:00]: Uh Mayor, I just wanna thank her for coming out. I think it's a worthwhile endeavor to have uh international and uh [5:20:00, 5:20:18]: You know, I think uh just send us some information on those goals and what the Despair is intended to do. And I think folks can understand it is a broad based international approach uh that may be beneficial to us, especially uh in the museum and the cultural arts center. [5:20:18, 5:20:20]: Where we'll be able to [5:20:20, 5:20:23]: uh probably have a a an exchange [5:20:23, 5:20:24]: Or some type. [5:20:24, 5:20:28]: uh with uh with the with gana [5:20:29, 5:20:44]: So does that mean uh that you, Mayor Pro Tem or someone else, is willing to make a motion to accept this city's sister city of relationship and go forward with this? Uh so move. Okay, is there a second? I second. Ms. Thomas Second, okay. All in favor, please indicate. [5:20:46, 5:20:52]: Okay, three. Uh uh Mr. Blount, uh you oppose or you abstain, abstain. [5:20:57, 5:21:03]: Well, I I I'm not abstain because I just needed more information on how this thing how it works and I'm not clear on that. [5:21:03, 5:21:23]: Maybe Mr. Peterson can I could talk to him sometime. Um sometime this on it. So I mean you got enough to move forward with the uh vote. So uh for me, I just need to get more information on it. So you're you're not like a no vote, I guess you may say. Is that what it is? Well, it's not a no vote, I'm a staining because I don't have enough. Okay, I'm staying cool. Three three zero one, uh motion uh passed. [5:21:23, 5:21:36]: passes. Thank you, Ms. Samuel. And we look forward to uh establishing this relationship and working with Mr. Peterson with the council to do this and and look for great things to happen. Okay. Thank you. Thank you all for having me. You're welcome. More than welcome. Anytime. Thank you. [5:21:37, 5:21:43]: We'll move on. Council consideration to fill the vacancy and appoint a member to the planning commission. Ms. Johnson, please. [5:21:44, 5:21:50]: Good evening, uh Mayor, Council members. Um quickly, um we do have an applicant. [5:21:50, 5:21:57]: for um a possible candidate for our planning commission to replace Ms. Shirley Wallace's position. [5:21:57, 5:22:00]: Uh his name is Rodney Horns. [5:22:00, 5:22:11]: Um, based on his background and his middle, he's a 17-year resident of Stockbridge and has a pretty lengthy background in information technology. [5:22:11, 5:22:23]: He um stated he served on the development authority board some years ago. And um I just want to read a quick um line or two of his submittal. [5:22:24, 5:22:30]: He it says please briefly explain your reasons for wishing to serve on the board or commission you select. [5:22:31, 5:22:32]: He said I would [5:22:32, 5:22:36]: be a great addition to the planning commission. I'm concerned about development in the city. [5:22:37, 5:22:44]: Of Stockbridge, and I'm capable of having an unbiased opinion of what I think will be the best use of land in the city. [5:22:44, 5:22:50]: So I'd like to be a part of that decision-making process to ensure it is developed in progressive fashion. [5:22:50, 5:22:54]: And not oversaturated with one type of business. [5:22:54, 5:22:57]: Uh I spoke with him um earlier. [5:22:57, 5:23:03]: and um kind of got a idea of what he liked to do is kind of summed up in what I just read. [5:23:04, 5:23:14]: So just wanted to bring it before you all as a candidate. And he did mention he'd be willing to do the training, of course, that we do for all new planning commissioners. [5:23:15, 5:23:16]: Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [5:23:16, 5:23:25]: Mayor, I I would like to go ahead and approve ms uh motion to approve Mr. Horn. Second. All right. Any further discussion? If not, all in favor, please indicate. [5:23:27, 5:23:46]: Okay. Is the announced decision? Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Johnson. Okay, so for the next item we have here a resolution to reopen an in-person meetings for the city of Stockbridge. That's the item number 21. Uh and I'd like to ask our attorneys to expound on this, please, since you wrote up the resolution. [5:23:48, 5:23:57]: Yes, I'm subject to whatever terms and conditions that the council wanna put on this. Council had just directed that they wanted to open up for in-person meetings and for [5:23:57, 5:24:03]: the city hall and the building to be open and so that resolution is just a skeleton for them to decide what they want to do for [5:24:04, 5:24:05]: Mayor. [5:24:05, 5:24:05]: Yes, sir. [5:24:06, 5:24:11]: I think they're two separate issues, correct? It is. [5:24:11, 5:24:29]: I think we have I think we have unanimous support on re reopening city hall. So I think we can go ahead and move forward with it. So I'd like to make a motion. Hold on. What's in front of me, sir, is is a resolution to reopen in-person meetings for the city of Stockbridge. In-person meetings, not city hall and the buildings. That's another resolution. [5:24:29, 5:24:39]: I mean I what I have in my hand is a resolution for reopening in-person meetings for the city of Stockbridge. This deals with uh the uh city uh meetings. [5:24:40, 5:24:49]: Right, but there's two of them, right? There's one for that one. That one. Then the other one deals with resolution for reopening City Hall and and the City of Stockbridge with all our municipal buildings. [5:24:49, 5:24:51]: Mayor. Yes, sir. [5:24:51, 5:24:52]: Yes, ma'am, I'm sorry. [5:24:53, 5:24:56]: When um when the agenda was amended. [5:24:56, 5:24:59]: Yeah. The reopening was uh titled number twenty one. [5:25:00, 5:25:12]: And the in-person meetings was title number 22. Oh, is that right? Is that a backward? Yes, sir. Okay, excuse me. Excuse me. In that case, I second I second Mr. Alexander for reopening for the citizens. [5:25:13, 5:25:27]: Okay. All right. Excuse me. All right. So the s resolution reopening city hall back up for it. Yeah, ro reopening over reopening for city hall, right? And the in the rest of the municipality. Slow moved. Okay. And Mr. Blount, you second that, correct? Okay. Any further discussion? [5:25:29, 5:25:31]: Uh yes, Miss Holday. [5:25:33, 5:25:53]: Need a date, please. Tomorrow. No, no, sir. I recommend that we don't do it tomorrow. I'll recommend actually, if you don't mind, that it'll be next Monday. Uh allow allow us for make some adjustments and get everything all lined up. Make sure we're all squared away. Tomorrow I think is a little too quick for the staff to do this. Matter of fact, no staff. Mayor, today is um uh just quick question. Today is [5:25:53, 5:26:13]: money i'm trying to figure what what do we have to just for well well we gotta make sure first of all we give you got we gotta put some uh pleasings in place right i talked about it earlier but we gotta make sure that uh all we got all the right material i talk we talked about talked about earlier in the evening uh we and i talked about this with the staff uh but want to make sure that we have all the things in place in reference to [5:26:13, 5:26:33]: uh having everybody come in. We got to mark all the floors. They haven't been marked yet. And make sure we shift over the items for the entryway and this aspect. So it's some additional things we just have to do. Tomorrow we'd be a little too quick on that because of everything has not been laid out and marked yet because it hasn't had approval. So my recommend [5:26:33, 5:26:53]: recommendation is that we approve it, that uh give the staff enough time to go ahead and lay out everything and and and effectively open up the city hall on uh the following Monday, which will be the 15th, I believe it is. And mayor, the reason I asked you because we're coming into the last of the year and what happened last year is so many people that had to re uh [5:26:53, 5:26:55]: uh renew their permits. [5:26:55, 5:27:15]: It became so convoluted that we was always we were six months in the year and people hadn't even got their got their uh business license renewals. It would I mean we just we're just at the end of the year again and we're just trying to get things moving. That's why I asked, because get things moving and functioning before the end of the year. That's all I have left in that question. So so is that your recommendation? [5:27:15, 5:27:17]: recommendation as city manager. [5:27:17, 5:27:37]: Yes, sir. It is. I mean the 15th. It's funny. It is. Yes, it is. I mean, that's my recommendation. Okay. It's 11, it's 1124. So we're gonna give you the benefit of the doubt, city manager, forward. So that's my recommendation. All right. I appreciate that. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [5:27:39, 5:27:59]: No, thank you. Appreciate it. Oh okay, we uh you've got a all four. Okay, appreciate that. And the next one dealt with the uh resolution involving reopening in-person meetings uh with the city council. So with the city of Stockbridge. So this be all our in-person meetings. If we approve this, this will be for the uh next uh meeting we will have, we'll have an in person in the [5:27:59, 5:28:00]: the council chambers. [5:28:00, 5:28:02]: This is what I would say to that is that [5:28:03, 5:28:07]: I I think we had unanimity on the everybody was for the Obre Hovert in City Hall. [5:28:08, 5:28:10]: But Calcman Thomas has been ve vehement. [5:28:11, 5:28:13]: And I want everybody to be careful be [5:28:13, 5:28:15]: comfortable once we come back into [5:28:16, 5:28:30]: the chamber to to move forward. I'm for reopening City Hall for in-person meeting, but I want every member of this board to be comfortable. We're a team. And if somebody has concerns, I want to talk talk about your concerns, Councilman. [5:28:31, 5:28:32]: I'm o I'm okay. [5:28:35, 5:28:35]: Okay. [5:28:36, 5:28:38]: I'm okay. Okay, good for [5:28:39, 5:28:48]: Yeah, okay. All right. Okay. Well I need a motion, folks. Do to Mayor what's the day? Uh well be the first our next meet uh our next meeting, whatever our if it passes our next meeting. [5:28:49, 5:28:53]: And and if I may, I need the council to understand. [5:28:53, 5:28:57]: That the chamber cameras and everything in that chamber that software. [5:28:58, 5:29:00]: goes to our civic clerk. [5:29:01, 5:29:04]: Streaming software, not to Facebook. [5:29:06, 5:29:07]: It will still be live. [5:29:07, 5:29:09]: But it goes to the [5:29:10, 5:29:27]: um civic clerk software, just so the council is aware. Well, we got 30 days to get somebody to figure out how to send it to Facebook. Even if Shana got to sit in there with a camera or her phone, somebody can do it. Um I I'm simply making you aware of what's currently in your chamber. [5:29:27, 5:29:47]: Okay. Okay, so look, can we s put that in the motion that we would have somebody begin to work on that to make sure that we can go live on Facebook when we do? Uh Mr. Alexander, if we if we do the first in-person meeting on the first Monday of December, that's 30 days to do the system. [5:29:47, 5:29:48]: [19788.5, 19805.2]: right now you only got like a couple of weeks. Well our next meeting is the first Monday. Just a suggestion that we do it the first meeting in December in person. That way it would it would give them IT a chance or do whatever they have to do with the system. I don't know how long that takes. They're not on the call tonight. [5:30:05, 5:30:09]: IT is on the line. Oh they are Yeah, they're always online. [5:30:11, 5:30:23]: Okay. Yeah, I I do recommend that we um have the first in person meeting on the first uh first meeting of December. That way we can reach out to the [5:30:23, 5:30:28]: uh support team for that system as well just to make sure it's working since it has not been active. [5:30:29, 5:30:30]: For over a year. [5:30:30, 5:30:32]: So wanna make sure everything's working and that [5:30:32, 5:30:37]: We uh get efficient video for Facebook because we can put anything up. [5:30:37, 5:30:49]: But it may not be good. That's it. So that'll give us a full month to make sure everything's working appropriately without hiccups. So I do recommend the first meeting of December. [5:30:49, 5:30:53]: And the PIO and the PIO will work with the IT team to ensure that. [5:30:53, 5:30:55]: So move. Okay, is there a second? [5:30:56, 5:30:57]: Second. [5:30:57, 5:31:01]: Okay, uh any further questions? I mean a second. I'm sorry, Miss Barber. [5:31:01, 5:31:09]: Oh, who who's that was your voice, Mr. Blount? Okay, that was your Blount. Okay, I'm sorry. Mayor Protendant uh Councilman Blount. Okay, all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [5:31:10, 5:31:23]: Okay. Okay. Unanimous decision. And that then then on that note that it means our meeting on the thirtieth, our council works on the thirty will still be virtual then if the on on this with the passage of this we'll wait one for one month. Is that that's what I understand? [5:31:24, 5:31:44]: Right, until until the first meeting in December be virtual meeting. So our next meeting on the 30th, our work session scheduled on the 30th would be a virtual meeting. That'd be all okay. Good deal. All right, fantastic. All right, now on to my comments, and I won't be very long with this, obviously. But uh one thing I want to mention is uh COVID-19, of course, is still among us, and by this uh [5:31:44, 5:32:04]: uh actual by this actual uh uh approval that we have done. So we're moving in the light of of getting open things up with our council meetings, of course, with City Hall, and uh and getting the public in so we can have interaction with them. The numbers of the of the COVID-19 have gone down or continue to go down. So hopefully that'll continue to the holiday season, Thanksgiving and Christmas [5:32:04, 5:32:24]: Christmas as well as New Year's. And if you if you've known that the there now, Pfizer now has a vaccination for uh ages five to eleven. So we're now working on our young our young folks or young children to get them vaccinated as well. Uh so we're making movement on that. So hopefully that'll continue on. And uh [5:32:24, 5:32:40]: to continue to encourage people to get vaccinated and to get tested in this aspect as well. Now I won't read out those numbers at this point, but I mean as many as long as we've been in this, people know where to go to get vaccinated and to get their their testing in this aspect. [5:32:41, 5:33:01]: So on that note, this week is Veterans Day. So please uh celebrate Veterans Day and uh say thank a veteran for the time and service of serving the country, keeping us free in this aspect, and uh and wish them well and uh and do all you can to uh at least uh knowledge those veterans out there and uh [5:33:01, 5:33:21]: In this aspect as well. And of course, right behind Veterans Day, we have Thanksgiving. So obviously at the time of Thanksgiving, be thankful thankful for what's who's in your life, what's in your life, and be thankful for the good Lord for all the things you have in your life and spend time with the friends and uh relatives and enjoy yourself and uh and share good stories, obviously. [5:33:21, 5:33:41]: Obviously, and have a good time and with the Thanksgiving holiday. And obviously, this past Tuesday, we had uh we had a vote in an election. So it's fantastic. The citizens in not only Stallbridge but in the county came together and passed the T S Plause. That's a fantastic thing. So for the next five years, ladies and gentlemen, there'll be a lot of different projects. [5:33:41, 5:34:01]: Projects that the city of Stockbridge has put out there for our priorities and things in reference to road structure, spanning roads, sidewalks, paths, street improvements, curve, gutter in the underserved communities, a pedestrian bridge to bring people from the east to west side of the downtown areas who go ahead and continue to redevelop our downtown. [5:34:01, 5:34:16]: So fantastic that they've passed. And there'll be a lot of different uh changes across the entire county in reference to transportation infrastructure and pathways. And maybe we'll get a chance to connect communities, right? And connect people to the downtown and connect to. [5:34:16, 5:34:32]: Polona mountain on those trails. So looking for all that improvement. So that's a great thing to pass. And on that note, Council, I'd like to ask your permission to allow uh Mr. Thomas to say any comments in reference to the community about uh supporting him on his reelection. [5:34:32, 5:34:36]: If that's all right with the council, do you give them a few minutes to speak to that? [5:34:36, 5:34:42]: Yes, uh thank you, Mayor. Okay. Uh I do want to take this opportunity to [5:34:42, 5:34:45]: Uh thank all the citizens. [5:34:45, 5:34:47]: Uh for their uh belief. [5:34:48, 5:34:51]: and support in in my um [5:34:51, 5:35:03]: being re-elected back to the city council. I did put out a statement to all the citizens, but I but I just want to take this opportunity to thank all the citizens. [5:35:03, 5:35:05]: Uh for believing in my truth. [5:35:05, 5:35:08]: And believe it in my uh light. [5:35:08, 5:35:11]: And I want to thank all my supporters. [5:35:11, 5:35:17]: Uh all my team, my campaign manager and all my team for the hard work. [5:35:17, 5:35:20]: uh you know to to to be successful. [5:35:20, 5:35:21]: Um [5:35:21, 5:35:25]: I'm looking forward, y uh you know, and going forward. [5:35:25, 5:35:28]: Uh with the city of Stockbridge. I'm I'm excited about [5:35:29, 5:35:33]: The Stockbridge Police Department, the Cultural Arts Facility and [5:35:33, 5:35:38]: trails and and all of the things that we have sort of laid out, the quality of life. [5:35:39, 5:35:59]: um initiative that we are providing uh to our citizens, all of the things in public works. Um, you know, the whole aspect of moving the city forward. I'm really excited about that. And but again, basically I want to thank all the citizens for believing in me as your representative to to the Stockbridge City Council. [5:35:58, 5:35:59]: Thank you. [5:36:00, 5:36:20]: All right. And I also would like to thank the citizens for re-electing me and give me four more years to serve with this outstanding council and continue to do great things for the citizenry and our constituents in the area. And look forward for a fantastic four years as we continue to grow and move forward and make Stockbridge even greater city is today. And uh look forward for [5:36:20, 5:36:40]: all that advancement and uh passing T Splots will help that whole initiative getting a coach art center online the police department i'll tell you what the next four years will be fantastic and you citizens will be proud of the of the improvements that we do across the board and thank you for allowing me to continue to serve with this council and make these things go forward and God bless us all in this aspect. [5:36:40, 5:36:46]: and uh star braces where community connects and that's exactly what we're doing here on that note i'm gonna talk about yes sir [5:36:47, 5:37:05]: Uh have you done the announcements for the events coming up? I'm correct. I'm doing it right now, sir. I'm gonna do it. I don't know if I don't know if I know well in November. It's on there, sir. It's on there. It's on there. It's on it. Okay, so what we're gonna talk about here now these things are all gonna say by Zoom, but they may eventually eventually change here shortly. But I'll go the youth council meeting. [5:37:05, 5:37:09]: 5 30 by the way of Zoom second Wednesday each month which is November 10th. [5:37:10, 5:37:30]: Uh let's see here. What we have is a main street advisory board meeting, second Friday of each month, 9 a.m. by way of Zoom, which is November 12th. Downtown development authority meeting, 6 p.m. by way of Zoom, third Tuesday of each month, uh November 16th. U Council Advisory meeting, 6:30 by way of Zoom, third Tuesday of each month, which is November. [5:37:30, 5:37:39]: November 16th, City Council work session, budget hearing, second reading, 6 p.m. last Tuesday of each month, which is November 30th. We know that's gonna be by way of uh Zoom. [5:37:39, 5:37:48]: And be virtual planning commission meeting 6 30. Uh revised meeting is uh okay, date to I guess by the way of Zoom on a planning commission meeting December 2nd. [5:37:48, 5:37:53]: U council meeting 530 by way of Zoom, second Wednesday of each month, which is December 8th. [5:37:54, 5:37:58]: Main Street Advisory Board meeting uh by way of Zoom, December 10th. [5:37:58, 5:38:07]: Uh next city council meeting, the final adoption, 6 p.m. on the December 13th. And what we decided at will be in the council chambers. [5:38:07, 5:38:27]: Uh downtown development authority meeting by way of Zoom uh December 21st, which is east uh third Tuesday of each month. U Council Advisory meeting 6:30 by way of Zoom, third Tuesday of each month, which is also December 21st. And planning commission meeting, revised meeting schedule by way of Zoom on December 16th. So some knows by way of Zoom that [5:38:27, 5:38:34]: those particular committees may very well change them since we're changing our policy here. So look forward for any potential changes that may come. [5:38:34, 5:38:54]: Councilman Barber is having a free Zuma fitness class in the park in Merrill Manor's Merrill Manor's Conference Center and right next there. Yeah, Merrill Manor's Conference Center in the park there on Saturdays, uh Saturdays at 8 a.m. in Clark Park Pavilions, A, B, and C. And it gets that song going every each and every [5:38:54, 5:38:59]: Every Saturday and the Stockbridge Annual Veterans Day virtual event this Thursday, November 11th. [5:39:00, 5:39:16]: 11 p.m. by way of uh Facebook Live and YouTube. And so you'll be able to click on the events uh page uh for the stop for the city stop bridge to get there and reserve that a salute to veterans and please uh says here please uh for uh vet pictures of veterans. [5:39:16, 5:39:22]: Name, rank, uh, branch, and near years of service to Councilman Thomas as you present a special tribute to those local veterans. [5:39:23, 5:39:33]: And they send that to Ms. Peterson, Z Peterson at CSstarbridge-G A dot G-O-V. And of course, thank you for your service, veterans on that aspect as well. [5:39:34, 5:39:46]: And connecting Henry, Annual Noel, and the November Toy Drive in partnership with Councilman Blount to take place Thursday, November 18th, 2021, obviously 5 to 7 p.m. at Clark. [5:39:46, 5:39:54]: Community Park located at 111 Davis Road. Please bring unwrapped toys for children in need. Santa will be there as well. [5:39:54, 5:40:14]: And you got opportunity to meet the mayor and voice your questions, concerns Monday, November 22nd, 10 a.m. to noon, and call the city hall and schedule appointment at 70-389-7900. And please support a small local businesses during the entire month of November with a special emphasis on small shop small Saturday. [5:40:14, 5:40:34]: November 27th, Stockbridge Small Business Owners and can register to participate in the Stockbridge Small Business Blitz and Small Business Saturday by contacting the Main Street program office, Main Street at City of Stockbridge-GA.gov, or contacting Lisa Farade at 678-833-3322. [5:40:34, 5:40:35]: two five. [5:40:35, 5:40:42]: And our annual holiday festival, which will be the last city event uh during the course of the year, is Thursday, December 2nd. [5:40:43, 5:40:47]: Five PM to nine p.m. Ameris Conference Center, 111 Davis Road. [5:40:48, 5:40:49]: Uh so look forward to that as well. [5:40:50, 5:40:53]: On that note, ladies and gentlemen, that's all the comments and and uh [5:40:53, 5:41:02]: Notifications, announcements. On that note, I'll I would imagine lateness tonight. We have no items for secondary session. So I ask for a motion to adjourn our meeting. [5:41:03, 5:41:04]: Summer. [5:41:04, 5:41:05]: Is there a second? [5:41:06, 5:41:09]: Is there a second? Okay. All in favor, please indicate. [5:41:11, 5:41:16]: Good evening, folks. Have a good evening. See you soon. Good night.